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With the upcoming French Presidential election in France the topic of Islam in Europe has again become central to the political discourse. This is nothing new, we also saw that in the UK, in Holland, in Austria and even in Switzerland where the Muslim communities were banned – by popular referendum – from building minarets (even though only four minarets existed in Switzerland before that referendum). Tensions between Muslims and non-Muslims are clearly on the rise, and not only due to some more or less racist or anti-immigrant feelings in the general population, but also due to the often appalling behavior of some refugees from Muslim countries (assaults, rapes, hooliganism) and even some Muslim communities in Europe (advocacy for terrorism, attempts to impose Sharia law). Before the situation gets better (assuming it ever will), it will most likely get worse, much worse.

So what are the options here?

First, let’s agree with Otto von Bismark’s wise words that “politics is the art of the possible“. Those Europeans who think that they will simply expel all Muslims from Europe or somehow manage to eliminate Islam from Europe are deluded. Likewise, those (rather few) Muslims who want to create some kind of Caliphate in Europe are no less deluded. In fact, all those who offer simple, straightforward “solutions” to the current crisis would be well advised to study some Hegelian dialectics to understand that the outcome of this crisis will not be the return to a status quo ante or the creation of an absolutely new reality.

Second, I submit that neither Muslim immigrants nor Islam itself will ever leave Europe: like it or not, they are here to stay. Why? Simply because while some groups, such as illegal immigrants, can be expelled from a country or even from the European continent, others, such as Muslims holding European citizenships or local/native converts to Islam are simply not possible to expel: this is impossible legally, and this is impossible practically (expel where? how?). I have personally worked in refugees centers in Switzerland (as a translator and interpreter) and I have worked as an analyst for the Swiss General Staff where the issue of refugees was often front and center and I can promise you that anybody who really knows how the system works also fully realizes that most of these immigrants are here to stay, even the pseudo-political refugees who are, in reality, economic immigrants and not political refugees at all (about 99% of so-called “political refugees”). At best, the EU could, in theory and with an immense effort, close its borders to future immigrants. Not likely, but at least possible. But mass expulsions are simple not an option.

Third, those Muslims who are already in Europe will inevitably climb the social ladder even if right now they are at the bottom. Many of them are young, many of them have suffered hardships which most Europeans could never overcome. Their family, tribal, ethnic and religious ties are much stronger than the ones you can observe in the modern “nuclear” family of most Europeans. Last, but not least, their social drive is much stronger than the one found in “established” Europeans circles. So even if the current generation is poorly educated and not integrated in the European society, the next one will. I have seen that with many other economic migrants such as Italians or Albanians. So when you see the Iraqi women sweeping the floors of your local hospital, remember that, in two years or so, her daughter will likely work at the same hospital, but as the medical doctor. In other words, the social power of the Muslim community will inevitably grow.

Does that mean that the EU will become ISIS-occupied territory where all women will be wearing burkas and raped, all men forced to converted to Islam or murdered, that slave markets will spring up all over the country, that Sharia law will be imposed on everybody and that homosexuals will be stoned to death?

Of course not! This is a silly caricature of Islam created and promoted by the AngloZionist 1%ers who run the Empire and who are trying to artificially create a clash of civilization which would allow them to remain in power and to continue pulling the strings from behind the scenes.

For one thing, Muslims will remain a rather small minority in Europe for the foreseeable future. But even more importantly, the kind of “Hollywood ISIS-Islam” which I portrayed in the paragraph above is not at all the kind of Islam most Muslims want to live in. In fact, many of them fled their own country precisely to avoid living in a Takfiri “Caliphate”.

You might ask me about those Wahabi crazies who have already murdered many Europeans with screams of “Allahu Akbar” on their lips? Aren’t they bona fide ISIS-types? Well, that is a complicated issue. For example, did you notice the vast majority of these so-called “Islamic” crazies had strong ties to the European security services? That some of them even had traveled to Israel? Doesn’t it seem strange to you that their attacks somehow always seem to be scheduled to coincide with important political events in Europe? Could there have been a genuine ISIS attack in Europe? Yes. But I am pretty sure that most of them were Gladio-style false flags executed by EU or US special services.

I will readily agree that there are real and dangerous al-Qaeda/ISIS types in Europe right now. Yes, they do represent a real risk. But unlike most refugees, these guys do violate European laws and legal action can be taken against them. In theory, Europe could even re-introduce the death penalty for terrorism or even for apology of terrorism. I know, that ain’t happening anytime soon, but what matters is that this will depend on a political decision, the political will of the Europeans. No so for mass expulsions which are impossible regardless of any political decision or will.

ORDER IT NOW

Could there be an uprising or even a civil war in Europe? Yes, but only as long as the governments in power have a vested interest at letting one happen or creating one. But as soon as the national authorities give the security forces and the military the green light to intervene and suppress the insurrection it’s “game over” for the al-Qaeda types.

So while Islam per se or Muslims in general can not be expelled from Europe, the European nations will be able to deal with the security situation provided there is a political will to do so.

Right now the European political class is split into two equally misguided political camps:

  1. Those who think that any criticism of Muslims is “Islamophobic”.
  2. Those who think that all Muslims and Islam are bad, bad, bad, bad.

These are very primitive and fundamentally misguided positions. More importantly, both of these beliefs are bound to result in a failure to achieve anything. For the time being, many Europeans and Americans appear to be stuck in this false choice, but no matter how long it takes reality will eventually catch up with them and they will realize that there is no such thing as one “Islam” or a single type of “Muslim”. The truth is that the world of Islam is extremely diverse and that all of the ingredients needed for a complete defeat of Takfiris (whether of the al-Qaeda, ISIS, al-Nusra or any other kind) can be found inside Islam. In fact, they can only be found inside Islam. Let me illustrate my point by making a simple comparison between Russia and the EU.

Unlike the EU, Russia has one single central government, and a strong one at that. The Russian intelligence and security services are amongst the best on the planet, as it the Russian military. Russia does not suffer from the disease of political-correctness: it is totally acceptable in Russia to denounce Islamic terrorism in the harshest possible terms. In fact, Putin even made a famous statement about “offing the terrorists in the toilets if needed” and the Russians did exactly that: they killed every single Chechen Wahabi leader and, far from denying it, they proudly proclaimed it. The key difference with the EU is that Putin and the Russian people had the political will to stop the insurgency in Chechnia, even if that meant turning all of Chechnia into a pile of smoking rubble.

Yet, at the same time, Putin made major efforts to support the Muslim community in Russia. Not only did he built a huge (and beautiful) mosque in Moscow, he has embarked on major program to support the growth of traditional Islam in Russia (just as he has done with the Orthodox Church). As for Chechnia, Putin has made Ramzan Kadyrov something of a “political son” and has given the Chechens extremely wide autonomy, especially in matters of religion. So is Putin anti-Muslim or pro-Muslim? Neither. Putin understands a simple thing which, so far, totally eludes western politicians: Russians are very good at killing Takfiris, but only Muslims can kill Takfirism.

The threat has never been Islam. The threat is Takfirism. Here is how Wikipedia defines the concept of “Takfir”: In Islamic law, takfir or takfeer (Arabic: تكفير‎‎ takfīr) refers to the practice of excommunication, one Muslim declaring another Muslim as kafir (non-believer). Please read this again carefully. The practice of declaring “another Muslim” as a non-believer. Another Muslim.

So the key characteristic of Takfiris is that they believe that all those who do not follow their version of Islam are not even Muslims. How do you think that this makes these other Muslims feel about the Takfiris? Actually, there is nothing wrong in theological terms with the notion of “Takfir” just as there is nothing wrong with the notion of “excommunication” or, for that matter, “anathema” or “heretic”. These are categories which, when properly used, are indispensable for specific types of theological arguments. However, just as “excommunicate”, “anathema” or “heretic” can be used by some only as insults, slander or even calls to murder, “Takfirism” is first and foremost a mindset. Guns and bullets cannot defeat a mindset. In fact, only ideas can defeat other ideas. The Russians know that.

There are several videos on YouTube (alas, in Russian) which show Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov coming to the location of a battle with Chechen extremists and engaging the terrorists in a theological dispute about Islam. Instead of just ordering his troops to kill them all, he challenges them by asking them “so you think that you are Muslims and we are not?” or “how is our society not Islamic?”. And his favorite one “if you can find a single quote in the Quran proving to me that what I do is not Islamic then I will immediately cease doing it”. This does not always work. Some refuse to surrender and they are all inevitably killed (there is zero tolerance for Takfiris in Chechnia). But frequently this does work. Terrorists lay down their weapons, come out and instead of being abused and jailed or simply shot, they are sent to special prisons where Islamic preachers come and spend long hours teaching them about true Islam. And more often than not, when these young men come out they become volunteers for the Chechen security forces!

Now I ask you – could an Orthodox Christian or an agnostic achieve the same result? Never, of course. So this is why the non-Muslim security forces, while still present in and around Chechnia, are always kept in a reserve and support role. The primary task to police Chechnia is fully entrusted to the Chechens themselves. There are always powerful Russian forces on high alert ready to intervene should the situation suddenly get out of control, but by now the real battle is not fought with guns, it is fought with ideas and, as Putin as said it many times, only real, traditional Islam, can defeat Takfirism.

Right now, most western politicians simply don’t get it. Or, if they do, they don’t dare say it. But sooner or later the Europeans will have to come to that absolutely inevitable conclusion. And when that happens, they will finally realize that Islam and the Muslims who practice is were never the enemy. That the enemy was a relatively small sect of para-Islamic crazies which originated in the 13th century and which remained largely in the fringes of the Islamic world until it was given an immense boost first by the House of Saud and, later, by the US CIA. Today, the Takfiris are still the instrument of the AngloZionist Empire, they are the infection which is unleashed against any country daring to reject the Empire’s dominion. Furthermore, the Takfiris are, first and foremost, a threat to any and all other variants of Islam, whether Shia or Sunni.

In conclusion – a beautiful image and a symbol.

Take a look at this photo:

SakerMosque1

It shows the “Kremlin” (traditional Russian fortress) in the city of Kazan. Notice how the Orthodox churches and the mosque beautifully blend together?

Here is another photo of this beautiful sight:

SakerMosque2

Is this not a serene and peaceful?

Now please take a quick look at the history of Kazan as outlined in Wikipedia. Kazan was a city where Christians and Muslim viciously persecuted each other, both sides practiced forced conversions and both sides engaged in full-scale massacres. In recent times, following the break-up of the Soviet Union, things almost got ugly again, there was a short-lived but very vocal local separatist movement. Then cool heads prevailed. But the fact is that the history of Kazan is hardly idyllic and that a lot of innocent blood has been shed here. The point here is that after centuries of warfare both Muslims and Orthodox Christians have learned how to coexist in peace and even create something truly beautiful, like this Kremlin, together. This would not have been possible with the Takfiris, the hateful and insane monsters who took pride in destroying the beautiful Syrian city of Palmyra. For them there is nothing beautiful in the photo above, it is a blasphemy. Should they ever seize power in Kazan, they would definitely destroy it all, including the mosque.

The lesson here is simple: first, former enemies do sometimes become friends and allies and, second, the churches and mosque of the Kazan Kremlin protect each other and make this Kremlin far stronger than if only one of the two buildings was standing inside its walls.

Mosques are here to stay in Europe too, and the short-sighted who don’t know history will view this as the end of their civilization and they are the ones who, without ever realizing it, will uselessly delay the eventual defeat of Takfirism in Europe and elsewhere. Those who do understand the real dynamics at play will see this as something very different: a chance at rebirth and a fantastic opportunity to truly crush Takfirism both at home and abroad.

Right now Putin’s Russia is the example of how “it is done”. But the West it too busy demonizing everything “Putin” and supporting anything russophobic, such as the Nazis in the Ukraine, that it simply cannot follow this example. But maybe a new generation of European politicians will.

 
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    In France, the Afro-colonization of white wombs is the greatest threat since white women are into junglois feverois and since white males are raised as cuckois.

    The main threat is racial-sexual than religious.

    As Christianity is dead — with poop as pope and homomaniacal churches — , there is no spirituality to defend in the west. Indeed, Europeans regard mandela, MLK, and obama more sacred than Jesus.

    This is a race war whites are losing since globalist Jews colonized their minds and Africans are colonizing white wombs, thus aborting the white babies that could have been, Everytime a Negro takes a white woman, he is killing a white child cuz the white womb is producing a black baby in its stead. Imagine if your mother went with a negro.

    You would have been afro-aborted. In your stead, your mother’s womb would have produced a negro kid.

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    • Replies: @Santoculto
    homossexuality = no-''spirituality'', derstand, ;)

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    , @Alden
    What is the source of your statements about White Frenchwomen and blacks?

    There is none anywhere because White French women don't associate with blacks.
    You've never been to France in your life so you don't even have anecdotal evidence.

    Get your mind out of the gutter. Your obsession with the sex lives of people 5,000 miles away is just plain pornographic Bet you type these posts with one hand..
    , @Ann K.
    Ah, but what does Roman Catholicism and its pope have to do with the photos in this article? Orthodoxy is not Catholicism.
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  2. Living with Islam is like living with cancer. You might – as the author of this article suggests – accept this as irreversible situation and peacefully succumb to it, or you might try few things. It won’t be easy, but there are people who have beaten cancer, so it can be done. The other possibility is to surrender. Those are the choices. Peaceful coexistence sounds very good on paper, but you can’t peacefully coexist with a deadly disease.

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    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Yes, and that coexistence becomes markedly less peaceful and tolerant as the Muslims out-reproduce non-Muslims and constitute a larger & larger share of the population over time.

    Unless and until white Europeans start having babies again and regain a sense of national pride and identity, t's not a question of WHETHER Islam will conquer Europe and Europeans, it is a question of WHEN.

    Mass expulsion of Muslims can happen, quite easily with current numbers in most European countries, and it must happen. Voluntary departure of Muslims induced by a monetary payment, whenever possible, rather than violence.
    , @SteveRogers42
    I believe that cancer can be successfully treated by radiation, chemicals, or surgical excision. All that's needed is a doctor to prescribe the treatment.
    , @Wally
    not mentioned:

    Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while Jews demands massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.
  3. So even if the current generation is poorly educated and not integrated in the European society, the next one will. I have seen that with many other economic migrants such as Italians or Albanians.

    Didn’t happen with the first generation, nor with the second, but surely the next generation of 85 IQ inbreds will finally be the one to converge to European standards. Third time’s the charm!

    But I am pretty sure that most of them were Gladio-style false flags executed by EU or US special services.

    I for one am pretty sure most of them were Illuminati-style false flags executed by biomechanically augmented cyborgs.

    As for Chechnia, Putin has made Ramzan Kadyrov something of a “political son” and has given the Chechens extremely wide autonomy, especially in matters of religion.

    Don’t forget the minor matter of gibsmedats equivalent to 85% of their local budget.

    The point here is that after centuries of warfare both Muslims and Orthodox Christians have learned how to coexist in peace and even create something truly beautiful, like this Kremlin, together.

    Volga Tatars have an average IQ of around 100 (equivalent to Russia/Europe), and are almost as secular as the average Russian. In other words, they are the exception that proves the rule. None of that applies to the Muslims of the North Caucasus or Central Asia, the latter of whom are immigrating to Russia by the millions. Nor of course to the Muslims flooding into Europe.

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    • Replies: @Ryan

    Didn’t happen with the first generation, nor with the second, but surely the next generation of 85 IQ inbreds will finally be the one to converge to European standards. Third time’s the charm!
     
    What I've read indicates that most marriages of second generation Muslims in Europe are to first generation immigrants from the home country. So if you're a Turk living in Germany your daughter doesn't marry a Turk born in Germany, she marries a guy from Turkey.

    With this pattern in place there never really will be any "third generation" Muslims in Europe.
    , @Andrei Martyanov

    Volga Tatars have an average IQ of around 100 (equivalent to Russia/Europe), and are almost as secular as the average Russian.
     
    In Soviet times it certainly was true. Today? Well, they are not as secular as they used to be. In the end, whatever is their IQ levels, and I studied and served with some outstanding officers and scholars both from among Tatars and Bashkirs, a lot of it could be attributed to centuries old contact with Russians and being a part of Russian civilizational journey. Even a rabid Russophobe Friedrich Engels was forced to admit that "despite her Slavic dirt and baseness, Russia provides a civilizing influence on her Asiatic subjects"(c) Well, Susan Eisenhower (Ike's daughter) was wedded to one of the Tatars for decades but after divorcing Roald Sagdeev she admitted that he was "well, Tatar".
    , @rw95
    Not saying you're wrong, AK. But considering Russia's supposedly high average IQ, why is it such a corrupt, crime-infested shithole?
    , @utu
    I for one am pretty sure most of them were Illuminati-style false flags executed by biomechanically augmented cyborgs.

    Come on, Karlin, you are not that stupid. How is the proselytizing of the gospel of Charles Murray going in Moscow?
    , @annamaria
    "Volga Tatars have an average IQ of around 100 (equivalent to Russia/Europe), and are almost as secular as the average Russian. In other words, they are the exception that proves the rule."
    They also prefer marriages within their ethnic group.
    , @War for Blair Mountain
    Anatoly

    What difference does it make what the Muslim IQ is?....They do not belong on Russian Living and Breeding Space.

    I am for the mass expulsion of all Muslims out the US...Canada....Europe...and Russia.

    I am also for the mass expulsion of all Israeli Nationals out of the US...Canada....and Russia.
    , @Frayedthread
    Spot on commentary. I feel the Saker is off his onion sometimes.
    Also why is ethnic cleansing not an option? The Turks did it, the Pakis did it, the Indonesians("moderate Muslims") did it, the Hutu did it in living memory. If Europeans got their gonads back there's no reason it couldn't happen.
    Could one reason both Putin and Merkel are inviting millions of the Great Unwashed is to use them as cannon fodder in the next great land confrontation between the Teuton and the Slav? Risky!!
    , @RW
    Antonly, what is your source for the IQ data on Muslim Tartars and those from Central Asia and the North Caucasus?
  4. But the West it too busy demonizing everything “Putin” and supporting anything russophobic, such as the Nazis in the Ukraine, that it simply cannot follow this example.

    You just can’t get past this BS. I’m sure you write it off as simply not true, and that’s your problem because you simply deny the facts hoping they will go away. They won’t.

    Putin is an idiot accommodating Muslims. But, then, he seems to like stupidity. He’s mush like you Saker. Much like you.

    By the by. The Nazis are in Moscow. The place is filthy with skinheads and other Neo-nazis. They are almost non-existent in Ukraine.

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    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    How is the Russian Army's appointment with destruction on the mountains of Israel coming along?
    , @Verymuchalive
    Neocon moron.
    , @annamaria
    And who are you, accommodating the silly statements again and again and exposing yourself as a Kaganist on the UNZ Review?

    FYI: "US Congress ends funding for Ukraine’s neo-Nazi Azov Battalion:" https://theduran.com/us-congress-ends-funding-for-ukraines-neo-nazi-azov-battalion/
  5. So even if the current generation is poorly educated and not integrated in the European society, the next one will

    In re: Muslims in non-Muslim lands it is highly debatable, to put it mildly.

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  6. Third, those Muslims who are already in Europe will inevitably climb the social ladder even if right now they are at the bottom. Many of them are young, many of them have suffered hardships which most Europeans could never overcome.

    Well, this seems far from certain. Algerians in France, Turks in Germany, they were young, suffered hardships, and all that. And yet hardly any of them have climbed the social ladder. Racism is a very powerful force. Watch Fassbinder’s Ali: Fear Eats the Soul.

    As for Chechnya, I got the impression that the current approach there is ‘if you can’t beat them – join them’. A small caliphate led by Islamic spiritual leader (Kadyrov). Which is fine as far as it goes, but eventually it’ll probably become a problem…

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  7. @Quartermaster

    But the West it too busy demonizing everything “Putin” and supporting anything russophobic, such as the Nazis in the Ukraine, that it simply cannot follow this example.
     
    You just can't get past this BS. I'm sure you write it off as simply not true, and that's your problem because you simply deny the facts hoping they will go away. They won't.

    Putin is an idiot accommodating Muslims. But, then, he seems to like stupidity. He's mush like you Saker. Much like you.

    By the by. The Nazis are in Moscow. The place is filthy with skinheads and other Neo-nazis. They are almost non-existent in Ukraine.

    How is the Russian Army’s appointment with destruction on the mountains of Israel coming along?

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  8. “For example, did you notice the vast majority of these so-called “Islamic” crazies had strong ties to the European security services? That some of them even had traveled to Israel? Doesn’t it seem strange to you that their attacks somehow always seem to be scheduled to coincide with important political events in Europe? Could there have been a genuine ISIS attack in Europe? Yes. But I am pretty sure that most of them were Gladio-style false flags executed by EU or US special services.”

    These conspiracy theories are simply demented. I don’t know why a certain type of Christian reactionary who dislikes the modern West (which I do as well, but for different reasons) is so bizarrely sympathetic to Islam and thinks relations between Muslims and non-Muslims would be just fine if it weren’t for scheming “AngloZionists” or whatever.
    TheSaker is probably right that mass expulsions of Muslims from Western Europe won’t happen and an Islamic presence is here to stay (unless things get really ugly with open civil war). But apart from that, I can’t agree…seems like mostly wishful thinking to me.

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    • Replies: @utu
    These conspiracy theories are simply demented.

    They will seem demented to any honest and straightforward mind. You just can't imagine or accept the level of evil and perfidy of those who perpetrate false flags and and who are able to create patsies out of innocent people. Perhaps by being German you are more handicapped than others in this department. Germans invented the 2nd Categorical Imperative and they internalized it pretty well, so operating on levels where you treat other human purely instrumentally with utmost perfidy Germans are simply lacking necessary talents. Germans never had much talents in this department. Look at the Reichstag fire trial. They were unable to secure the conviction for all accused. Can you imagine a trial like that in Moscow in 1930s? Or in post 9/11 America? Everybody would be convicted. Look at Herschel Grynszpan. They could not engineer a show trial after they got him and then they kept him not knowing what to do (and probably he survived). Do you think Brits, Soviets or Israeli would miss such a propaganda opportunity? Look at Gleiwitz incident. Did it even happen as we were told it happened during Nuremberg trials? When you do a false flag you suppose to write about it in newspapers, right? That is the whole point of the false flags, right? But apparently nobody heard about Gleiwitz until the end of war when Americans procured a testimony of the alleged perpetrators. So I might be not that surprised why you seem to be that dense in this department. Anyway, Saker is right: There might be some organic genuine terror attacks by some fools but most of what we see in recent years in Europe comes from operations like Gladio. The Polish truck in Berlin was a Gladio operation too. Looks like German security services are learning from the masters. Still they messed up with a passport because some good citizen and not crooks cop apprehended somebody who was not meant to be a patsy. They ha dot go to plan B and they planted a passport few days later and from a dead guy in Italy.
    , @annamaria
    "These conspiracy theories are simply demented."
    You need to read a bit about Gladio (see also Ledeen) and about the CIA' sponsorship of "moderate jihadis." Too many roads lead to Oded Yinon plan.
    , @jacques sheete

    These conspiracy theories are simply demented.
     
    Since we're sticking stupid labels on things here, I'd say that to write off reasonable theories as demented is retarded.

    Look up the Lavon affair, and Operation Northwoods besides the ones mentioned by other comenters.

    Or one could read George Morgenstern's, The Secret War for details on how the unimagineable is done successfully. It's available free online at:

    https://mises.org/library/pearl-harbor-story-secret-war
    , @Man on the street
    If the leaders know enough about Islam, they can simply order that Wahhabi/Salafi/Takfiri MUST NOT BE ALLOWED IN THE WEST. It is very simple' if a husband is dead in India for example, they buried him and his wife. Such practices cannot be accepted in the West. Therefore the leaders must educate themselves and educate the sheeple.
  9. I like Muslims just fine in Muslim countries. You may find the scenes of mosques and Orthodox churches in the same photograph beautiful but they disgust me. I’m certain that many people in Spain during the 700 year Reconquista moaned that “the Muslims are here to stay, we can never expel them, Islam is now a part of Spain.” But in 1492 the Spaniards sent them packing.

    Robert Fico of Slovakia has said correctly that there is no place for Islam in the West. There may be minor exceptions in the Balkans and I’m content to let the Russians figure out what to do with their Central Asian Republics. But the policy towards Muslims in the West ought to be either expulsion (both citizenship and legal residency can be revoked) or partition into Muslim and non-Muslim areas. Expulsion impossible, you say? The Poles expelled millions of ethnic Germans from historically German areas like Pomerania, Silesia, East and West Prussia in a couple of years after WWII. Didn’t even say please; just did it. There’s no reason that the same can’t be done to Muslims. Where shall we send them? Well, there are lots of Muslim countries, and many of them are very wealthy and some have nice climates. Why wouldn’t they welcome their wonderful Muslim brothers and sisters with open arms? (Well, maybe they know them better than we do!)

    The more likely solution is partition of specific European countries, beginning probably with France. The territorial real estate solution will be agonizing but Yugoslavia broke up and the sun came up the next day in Belgrade.

    The most likely solution is that Western Europe descends into a caramel colored undifferentiated consumerist mass governed by an elite. The elite’s wealth and political clout will largely insulate it from the consequences, but the historic European populations will be periodically terrorized by unassimilable, predominantly Muslim Arabs, Africans and Turks, and relentlessly persecuted if they try and hit back.

    Permitting large scale Muslim immigration into Western Europe has been one of the worst public policy decisions of all time. The great-grandchildren of the people who permitted it will be fully justified in digging up the bones of their ancestors and hanging them in chains.

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    • Agree: KenH, Clyde
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "I like Muslims just fine in Muslim countries."

    And I enjoy people who embrace my values in my nation, whether it be white or non-white, Christian or non-Christian.

    "Robert Fico of Slovakia has said correctly that there is no place for Islam in the West."

    The major religions have a place "in the West". He is sadly mistaken.

    "But the policy towards Muslims in the West ought to be either expulsion (both citizenship and legal residency can be revoked)..."

    Only by force. Are you willing to fight?

    "or partition into Muslim and non-Muslim areas."

    Only by force. Are you willing to fight?

    "Expulsion impossible, you say? The Poles expelled millions of ethnic Germans from historically German areas like Pomerania, Silesia, East and West Prussia in a couple of years after WWII."

    Different context. The Poles had experienced two World Wars due in large part to German machinations. Of course they would condone this sort of action.

    "Where shall we send them? Well, there are lots of Muslim countries, and many of them are very wealthy and some have nice climates. Why wouldn’t they welcome their wonderful Muslim brothers and sisters with open arms? (Well, maybe they know them better than we do!)"

    Muslims are fine where they are in the West, especially in the United States.

    "The most likely solution is that Western Europe descends into a caramel colored undifferentiated consumerist mass governed by an elite. The elite’s wealth and political clout will largely insulate it from the consequences, but the historic European populations will be periodically terrorized by unassimilable, predominantly Muslim Arabs, Africans and Turks, and relentlessly persecuted if they try and hit back."

    Again, what are you doing to stop this phenomenon from materializing? How are you going to stop these elites cold in their tracks? Talking is NOT action.

    "The great-grandchildren of the people who permitted it will be fully justified in digging up the bones of their ancestors and hanging them in chains."

    White people collectively made this decision by way of freedom of association. You know, the liberty of people to decide for themselves who they want to "be around with".
    , @Boris N

    You may find the scenes of mosques and Orthodox churches in the same photograph beautiful but they disgust me.
     
    Note that for nearly 450 years, from 1552 right up to 1990s, there were never a mosque in the Kazan Kremlin, which was, by the way, actually built by Russians, only Orthodox churches. The current mosque was built in the 1990s, and this anti-historical construction has only become possible because for the 25 years Tatarstan has been run by Tatar nationalists, who are always eager and successful at rewriting history.
    , @annamaria
    "I like Muslims just fine in Muslim countries."
    Sure.
    The most important step to stop the flood of refugees and migrants should be a new round of Nuremberg Process and the conviction of western war criminals that made the Muslims to run/swim for their lives to other countries. Here is a suggestion: tax the war profiteers (including financial sector) to initiate a real Marshall plan in those countries that were destroyed by the western "elites" for oil, Israel, power, and money. How about making Cheney & Blair families dirt poor? That would be a great example for those who take national sovereignty lightly.
  10. “Tensions between Muslims and non-Muslims … and not only due to some more or less racist…”

    Oh here we go with the racist crap again. Racism is a phony Western concept that tries to make the natural human desire to be with your own kind into a bad thing. It isn’t, and “muslim” is not a race. There is no reasonable argument that can be made that Europeans or anyone else has to accept foreigners into their countries and communities. The solution to this problem is to kill the globalist traitors trying to force this on us. Nothing else is going to stop it.

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    "Oh here we go with the racist crap again. Racism is a phony Western concept that tries to make the natural human desire to be with your own kind into a bad thing."

    Racism is a genuine human construct rooted on centuries of historical phenomenon.

    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.

    "It isn’t, and “muslim” is not a race."

    You are right, for once. Muslim is referred to as a follower of Islam. Followers of Islam come from different races.

    "There is no reasonable argument that can be made that Europeans or anyone else has to accept foreigners into their countries and communities."

    Just because person is not willing to accept something does not mean the argument being made is other than reasonable.

    "The solution to this problem is to kill the globalist traitors trying to force this on us. Nothing else is going to stop it."

    So, are you going to take that your white rage and partake in this endeavor, or remain on the sidelines as an impotent white? How much longer are you willing to wait before the globalists eventually take you out?

    , @Numinous

    Racism is a phony Western concept that tries to make the natural human desire to be with your own kind into a bad thing.
     
    Defining one's "own kind" is also a a very human thing. Humans have always found kindred spirits across racial and ethnic boundaries.

    Racism is the historical phenomenon of creation of racial hierarchies in multi-racial societies. Most societies since the dawn of civilization have been perfectly fine with (some) diversity. Racism (indeed, a Western concept, as you point out) was the outgrowth of pseudo-scientific theories about races being strictly inferior or superior to each other, and the desire of the more powerful race (white people in this case) to not be "polluted" by their so-called inferiors.
  11. This author better visit India and see for himself what happens when Muslims move in. LOL. Hell on earth after 1000 years.

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    Truth.
    , @Numinous
    The British dominated (and in some ways, re-made) India from the 18th to the 20th centuries. How do you disentangle the damage they did from the damage the Muslim invaders did?
    , @Zia
    There is no comparison of the then India and modern Europe. A caste-ridden civilization had to give way to a dynamic order. Modern India owes a lot to Islam for its progress and enlightenment. Void has to be filled; its natural principle.
  12. @Anatoly Karlin

    So even if the current generation is poorly educated and not integrated in the European society, the next one will. I have seen that with many other economic migrants such as Italians or Albanians.
     
    Didn't happen with the first generation, nor with the second, but surely the next generation of 85 IQ inbreds will finally be the one to converge to European standards. Third time's the charm!

    But I am pretty sure that most of them were Gladio-style false flags executed by EU or US special services.
     
    I for one am pretty sure most of them were Illuminati-style false flags executed by biomechanically augmented cyborgs.

    As for Chechnia, Putin has made Ramzan Kadyrov something of a “political son” and has given the Chechens extremely wide autonomy, especially in matters of religion.
     
    Don't forget the minor matter of gibsmedats equivalent to 85% of their local budget.

    The point here is that after centuries of warfare both Muslims and Orthodox Christians have learned how to coexist in peace and even create something truly beautiful, like this Kremlin, together.
     
    Volga Tatars have an average IQ of around 100 (equivalent to Russia/Europe), and are almost as secular as the average Russian. In other words, they are the exception that proves the rule. None of that applies to the Muslims of the North Caucasus or Central Asia, the latter of whom are immigrating to Russia by the millions. Nor of course to the Muslims flooding into Europe.

    Didn’t happen with the first generation, nor with the second, but surely the next generation of 85 IQ inbreds will finally be the one to converge to European standards. Third time’s the charm!

    What I’ve read indicates that most marriages of second generation Muslims in Europe are to first generation immigrants from the home country. So if you’re a Turk living in Germany your daughter doesn’t marry a Turk born in Germany, she marries a guy from Turkey.

    With this pattern in place there never really will be any “third generation” Muslims in Europe.

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    What I’ve read indicates that most marriages of second generation Muslims in Europe are to first generation immigrants from the home country. So if you’re a Turk living in Germany your daughter doesn’t marry a Turk born in Germany, she marries a guy from Turkey.
     
    #1- all part of the Islamic master plan to swamp the West via Hegira, the Muslim doctrine of conquest via immigration and high birthrates.
    Hegira - Wikipedia
    The Migration of Muhammad; The Migration; Hijrah; Hijra: Participants: Muhammad and his followers: Outcome: Renaming Yathrib as "the City (of the Prophet)" ;
    First Hijrah · Muhammad's Hijrah · Dates of events · Aftermath

    #2 Putin's kissy-face project with Islam is doomed because Muslim demographics are destiny. Russia's destiny is to be conquered by the slow motion Jihad of Hijra

    #3 Follow the money. The extended Muslim family receiving the Muslim immigrant spouse is being paid off big by the extended donor family in Turkey, Pakistan and so on. Because now they can eventually get into the UK/European nations via legal chain immigration and family reunification immigration.
    UK Pakistanis have perfected this immigration racket. Denmark recently put limits on it.

  13. People are better off studying biology than political science to understand what is really going on.

    All organisms, including humans of course, are invasivist(offensive) and nativist(defensive). Some are more invasive than others, but all are invasive to some measure. Some are more nativist than others, but all must also be nativist to some degree.

    Living organisms are not content to stay put. They like to spread out and take over more turf. If bacteria or viruses are making a person sick, they are NOT content to stick with that man. They spread out and take over other men and women. It’s like the pod things in THE INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS. Or the morphing organism in THE THING.

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    It has this need to take over other areas. But humans are like that too. After all, why do humans have military bases in BODYSNATCHERS? Why else have humans colonized a distant corner of Antarctica in THE THING?
    Why are they in the land of penguins? Humans too are invasive. So, THE THING is about war between invaders. But both are also defenders of what they claim. Humans seek to defend their ‘new nativist’ turf in Antarctica. And the Thing tries to hold onto the humans, dogs, and other organisms it has colonized; they’ve become part of its turf. (There are two kinds of claimants. Of the tangible and of the intangible. Those who claim land or immovable objects are claimants of the tangible. Those who claim people’s minds or mercurian systems are claimants of the intangible. Nationalist power is about taking over and defending a definite piece of territory. Christian or ideological power is about infecting and taking over the minds of people all over. Christianity doesn’t have to take over Chinese territory to take over the world. It only needs to infect hearts and minds. Finance is somewhere between tangible and intangible. In the end, finance has power because money can be converted to real goods and properties. But the global financial system allows massive amounts of money-power to easily and instantly flow from one part of the world to another.)

    What the humans fear is that the Thing will try to spread out and take over all organisms around the world: all humans and all animals and maybe all plants too if such is possible. (The Thing should have turned into penguin or whale and then colonized ocean creatures and then swum to other continents.) So, the humans in The Thing try to prevent the Thing from taking over all humans in the station. If the Thing colonizes every human, then the thing-ized humans can go move to other continents and colonize other humans, and then, the human species will all be Thing-ized. The cucksters of the West have been pod-ized and thing-ized by the Glob.

    Sometimes, there is a duality, an anxiety, even in the colonized or ones being colonized. We see this in Blair in THE THING.

    There are two ways the Thing can take over someone. By physically overwhelming the person, killing him, and copying his DNA. Or, it can infect a person and slowly change the person from the inside. That seems to be the case with Blair. Because he operated on the Thing, it’s possible that some of the Thing germs got into his skin and bloodstreams. So, the Thing is incubating inside him like a virus and taking over gradually.
    So, there is a moment when Blair’s mentality becomes dualistic. He feels the human emotions of wanting to defend the human species. But he also feels the Thing emotions of wanting to take over the human species. Among whites, some remain nationalist and resist the Glob. Some have been completely mentally colonized by it. But there are those who feel anxiety and inner-crisis. Their natural white racial instinct tells them that globalism means hell for the white race. But they’ve also been infected by the Glob virus that makes them feel ‘racist’ and wicked for feeling such thoughts. So, to suppress their ‘evil’ side, they might become extra-fanatical to push the Glob agenda. But then, it maybe possible to come up with new mental-vaccinations to change back the pod-people to sane nationalist white people. After all, there have been cures for certain diseases such as mumps, syphilis, and etc.

    Nativism is the flipside of invasivism. One cannot exist without the other. After all, to invade means to make an effort and a claim. It isn’t merely wandering new territory accidentally or arbitrarily. It’s about advancing with the purpose of making a claim upon the territory. When you invade, take over, and make a claim, it means you have to own it, defend it, guard it, and preserve it. Thus, you as invavist also must be prepared to be nativist on the territory that you have conquered and claimed. If you don’t play the nativist role, other invasivie forces will take it from you, and then, the whole point of your invasion would have been for naught.

    Wolves don’t have colleges and study political science, but they instinctively understand this fact of life. Wolves don’t invade another territory just for the hell of it but to take over and claim it. They mark the territory with body scents and urine. They guard it through violence and group unity. So, invasivist wolves are also nativist wolves. If you invade but don’t protect what you’ve invaded, you won’t keep it because other invasivist forces will take it from you. The invavist must also be nativist to keep its bounty. It’s like a taker of water needs a bucket(without holes) to keep the water. It’s like the character of OLD MAN AND THE SEA is both an invasivist hunter and nativist holder of his trophy. He invades the sea to catch a marlin, but he does everything to defend his catch from other invasivist predators. Hyenas try to guard their kill from other hyena packs, leopards, and lions.
    It’s like football. The game is invasivist and nativist. Each team tries to invade and grab more of the territory of the other team. But invading isn’t enough. What is invaded must also be defended in nativist mode. What is taken from the Other must be guarded as Ours. Because all organisms are invasivist by nature, organisms must nativistically defend what they’ve invasively conquered.

    This is true of all nations. Israel was created by invasivism(but then, Jews lost it long ago to the invasivism of the Romans). Zionists arrived as invasivists and drove out the Palestinians. But Zionist Israelis must now be nativist and defend what they’ve claimed for themselves. Without such nativist zeal, the fate of Israeli Jews will be that of Palestinians(and Swedes in 50 yrs hence).
    The cleverest invasivists try to weaken the nativist will of their enemies or targets. Thus, the invasion is made easier, as Greeks did with the Trojans with the false gift of the Wooden Horse. But once the invasion has taken place, the invasivists must turn nativist to keep if they are to keep what they invaded and claimed.
    Jews have two ways of doing this. In the case of Israel, it is majority-nativism. Since Jews comprise the dominant demography of Israel, they can be straightforward nativist-nationalist in declaring THIS MUST BE A JEWISH STATE.
    But Jews can never take the US, Canada, and EU in such manner. Jews can never be the outright majority. So, if Jews promote nativism in such nations, it will only lead to white nativist consciousness, white pride, white unity, and white power… which may challenge Jewish minority elite supremacy. So, Jews cannot act like invading wolves in the West like they did in Palestine. They must operate more like invading viruses that penetrate into cells undetected and alter the programming from the inside. By colonizing white minds and persuading it that ‘diversity’ and ‘multi-culturalism’ are the highest & noblest goods while white identity, racial consciousness, homogeneity, and nativism are the greatest evils, white organisms become less nativist and lose the will to defend themselves against the invasivist Third World that wants access to the richer West(just like predators and parasites head for areas where food is bountiful). Worse, the PC virus might fool whites into thinking that Western Nationalist Values are all about Diversity, or endless invasion from the Third World. Now, what kind of nationalism is predicated on surrender to mass invasion? But then, Jews fooled whites into believing ‘gay marriage’ is the New Normal in morality.

    Now, why would the invasion of the West by the non-West be good for Jews? Won’t Jews be invaded too, along with whites? There is that danger to be sure, but Jews are banking on diversity as a weapon for the ruling minority elite. More diversity means less unity among the masses. It means the elites can effectively play divide-and-rule among the disunited masses. Thus, Jewish elite power will remain secure above the fray of the squabbling gentiles divided by diversity. But, some may ask, what if the newcomers challenge Jewish elite power and status? Won’t they topple the Jews one day? Jews aren’t too worried since most immigrant-invasivists don’t have the wherewithal to rise very high. African immigrants, Muslim immigrants, and ‘Hispanic’ immigrants(the non-white ones) are mostly limited in ability. East Asians can rise higher, but they lack the spark and leadership qualities to really take over. Also, too many East Asian women have kids for whites and Jews for there to be East Asian unity. The only people who might pose a threat to Jewish dominance are Asian-Indians, many of whom are intelligent and entrepreneurial. Also, Asian-Indians tend to stick together in sex and reproduction. And there are so many of them, and many more are being born. India now has 1.3 billion people and will soon be more populous than China, if it isn’t already. It has more people than all of Western Europe and US combined. This is why Jews are trying to forge ‘friendly’ ties with Asian-Indians and Pakistanis. Jews hope for a Zio-Indo wink-wink cooperation against white power. (Pakistanis are more useful than other Muslims since they are not Arab and thus less likely to care about Israeli-Palestinian conflict.)
    But then, Jews know that have an advantage that Hindus and Pakistanis lack. Jews can pass as whites, whereas Hindus and Pakistanis can’t. So, Jews play it both ways. Jews play the Asian-Indian card against whites. Jews go to Asian-Indians and Pakistanis and say, “Look, we Jews and you Indians/Pakistanis are victim-brothers against those white supremacist racist nativist scum.” And Hindus and Pakistanis play along because they want continued access to the richer West. But Jews also curtail Hindu-Pakistani power in the West by playing to white fears and anxiety. The coded Jewish message to whites is, “We Jews ain’t Christian, but we are ‘white’ too, just like you white gentiles. So, Jewish power is still white power, whereas Asian-Indian power is alien. So, white gentiles should support Jews against Asian-Indians if differences arise between Jews and Hindus.”

    Jews play it like the character in YOJIMBO and A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS. They play every side against each other. They don’t play it like Gregory Peck character in THE BIG COUNTRY who is also caught between two feuding clans but tries to resolve the conflict and bring peace. In contrast, Jewish globalist-supremacists thrive on the conflict among various groups. They are like Paul McCartney’s ‘grandfather’ in A HARD DAY’S NIGHT. A king mixer.

    Anyway, those who conquer must also be prepared to defend. Otherwise, what was the whole point of all that preparation, investment, industry, risk-taking, and sacrifice? I mean, imagine if Zionists went through all that trouble of invading Palestine and laboring to create Israel… just to hand it over to Africans, Iranians, Hindus, and Chinese. Why invade something just to let others invade it? Why climb a mountain to give the credit to another?
    To invade something means to make a claim, and once the claim is made, it has to be defended in nativist mode. Multi-culturalism is a Jewish globalist mind-virus trick that fools all nations that they must NOT defend their own lands on the basis of nativism. PC turns the claim into a ‘blame’ of ‘white guilt’. Whites are told they must surrender to invasivism. Now, why would Jews promote such things all over the world when they don’t for Israel?
    Because when all gentile nations become less nativist and defensive and embrace the cult of diversity, they will lose a sense of unity and solidarity. And that means Jewish globalist power can more easily infiltrate and penetrate and take over. Jews also use the homo-agenda to weaken the moral pride and confidence of every nation. Any nation that celebrates the perverse ‘sexual’ behavior of homos as the highest moral good has lost its equilibrium and bearing. Such a degenerate nation can be manipulated and subverted by any foreign power. This is why Jews are bitter about Russia’s resistance to the globo-homo-agenda, the proxy of Jewish supremacists.

    Anyway, the multiculturalist experiment in the US, Canada, and EU should be studied as a cautionary lesson on what happens when nations surrender their nativism. Without nativism, your people and nation will succumb to more invasivists who arrive and take what belongs to your people: the land, the wealth, the womenfolk, and the children too(like at Rotherham) that were claimed and defended by your ancestors.

    It’s true that every nation is the creation of invasivists sometime in history. Every nation, old or young, is a territory with a history of invaders and conquerors. But those invavists made a claim on what they invaded, and that meant they defended it in the mode of nativists. They, as invaders, understood and feared that invaders can be invaded in turn. So, if invaders are to keep what they’ve invaded, they must turn into nativists over the land that they’ve claimed as their own. It’s no different with wolves. An invading wolf pack invades turf from another wolf pack. But then, it can also lose that territory to yet more wolf packs. So, when a wolf pack takes land, it must turn nativist defend it from others. This is why Israel has survived over the years. Zionist invaders took the land from Palestinians. But through brute force of the IDF, patriotic race-ist immigration policy open only to Jews, and nationalist education, Israel has preserved itself and prevented it from being invaded in turn by other peoples. The US used to be like a giant Israel for European folks.

    This is why all this stuff about America’s ‘racist’ immigration policies is total BS.
    Yes, it is true that white folks invaded and took the land from Indians(and wild animals). But the whole point of invasion is to make a claim on the land you invade. After all, why go through all the trouble of invading(often a violent, bloody, and taxing process) if you’re not going to make such a claim? For every ounce of happiness, there was also lots of pain in the creation and expansion of America. It took tremendous work and even great sacrifice at times. So, why should whites folks just hand over what their ancestors invaded and claimed to other would-invaders? This is especially bogus when whites did most of the work whereas the new would-be invaders just come and live off the bounty of what the ancestors of whites did to create. Whitse make something out of nothing, and others live off that something while spitting on whites. Worse, these new invaders, brainwashed by PC, spit on the graves of white people who did so much to build America.

    It’s like a battle. It takes tremendous blood sacrifice. Lots of soldiers get killed. Lots of families will never see their kids again. So, if one side gains territory in war, it was often at great cost in terms of life and material. So, if territory is gained through war, it must be defended so that it won’t fall to the enemy once again. If land that was won through great sacrifice won’t be defended, what was all that sacrifice for?

    The reason why so many white peoples lack nativist instinct is three-fold: (1) They had it too good for too long, and they have lost the survivalist-organismic instinct (2) Pop Culture-as-main-culture has severed their ties to history and roots. So, they are unaware of the toil-and-sweat of their ancestors. Also Pop Culture makes them prefer other cultures, especially that of Negro, over their own kind since Negroes be fun, funky, and shi*. It leads to amnesiac jungle-hipster neo-savagery among white youths. (3) PC has filled whites with ‘white guilt’, so even whites who know something about history see it through the prism of ‘white historical sins’ as manipulated by Jewish-controlled media and academia. Also, PC, in cahoots with Pop Culture, made Diversity so iconic and sacrosanct that whites feel apologetic if they imagine any story or narrative that is all white and lacking in ‘diversity’. So, British TV is now featuring blacks in role of white historical figures and penalizes programs that don’t feature non-whites. Apparently, British History was deficient because it was too white. PC retrofits or retro-corrects history by Africanizing white heroes. It’s like the TV show that has a Negro as Lancelot in the new telling of the Arthurian tale, which is also a means to promote Afro-colonization of white wombs and cuck-mindset among white males reduced to status of ‘white boys’.

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    People are better off studying biology than political science to understand what is really going on.
     
    "Political science" is a faux "science", people are better off studying real history (admittedly it is not easy), economics and literature (or simply become avid readers) and military science, which, unlike "political science" is hard but is a real science. There is nothing to study in biology, the most people need to know, with the exception of those who go professionally in that field, is that we prefer "our own". That, plus some basic facts, including the fact that DNA does exist.
    , @utu
    So you are saying that Chinese have no chance against the globo-jews? I was hoping they would put up a good fight.
  14. @Anatoly Karlin

    So even if the current generation is poorly educated and not integrated in the European society, the next one will. I have seen that with many other economic migrants such as Italians or Albanians.
     
    Didn't happen with the first generation, nor with the second, but surely the next generation of 85 IQ inbreds will finally be the one to converge to European standards. Third time's the charm!

    But I am pretty sure that most of them were Gladio-style false flags executed by EU or US special services.
     
    I for one am pretty sure most of them were Illuminati-style false flags executed by biomechanically augmented cyborgs.

    As for Chechnia, Putin has made Ramzan Kadyrov something of a “political son” and has given the Chechens extremely wide autonomy, especially in matters of religion.
     
    Don't forget the minor matter of gibsmedats equivalent to 85% of their local budget.

    The point here is that after centuries of warfare both Muslims and Orthodox Christians have learned how to coexist in peace and even create something truly beautiful, like this Kremlin, together.
     
    Volga Tatars have an average IQ of around 100 (equivalent to Russia/Europe), and are almost as secular as the average Russian. In other words, they are the exception that proves the rule. None of that applies to the Muslims of the North Caucasus or Central Asia, the latter of whom are immigrating to Russia by the millions. Nor of course to the Muslims flooding into Europe.

    Volga Tatars have an average IQ of around 100 (equivalent to Russia/Europe), and are almost as secular as the average Russian.

    In Soviet times it certainly was true. Today? Well, they are not as secular as they used to be. In the end, whatever is their IQ levels, and I studied and served with some outstanding officers and scholars both from among Tatars and Bashkirs, a lot of it could be attributed to centuries old contact with Russians and being a part of Russian civilizational journey. Even a rabid Russophobe Friedrich Engels was forced to admit that “despite her Slavic dirt and baseness, Russia provides a civilizing influence on her Asiatic subjects”(c) Well, Susan Eisenhower (Ike’s daughter) was wedded to one of the Tatars for decades but after divorcing Roald Sagdeev she admitted that he was “well, Tatar”.

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    Roald Sagdeev is one of the most accomplished scientists of our times. Being a Tartar muslim has little or nothing to do with what a former, divorced spouse and what she has to say. Most divorced people usually have negative things to say about one another, Otherwise they would still be married. His Tartarness was great for the duration of their marriage...huhh.
    We're still in "Anglo-Zion" "Hollywood" mind set when it comes to criticism. Always a Nazi, Muslim, ...All depending on the "tribe's" choice of "our enemy".
  15. @Priss Factor
    People are better off studying biology than political science to understand what is really going on.

    All organisms, including humans of course, are invasivist(offensive) and nativist(defensive). Some are more invasive than others, but all are invasive to some measure. Some are more nativist than others, but all must also be nativist to some degree.

    Living organisms are not content to stay put. They like to spread out and take over more turf. If bacteria or viruses are making a person sick, they are NOT content to stick with that man. They spread out and take over other men and women. It's like the pod things in THE INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS. Or the morphing organism in THE THING.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okW2UfLNaJc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p35JDJLa9ec

    It has this need to take over other areas. But humans are like that too. After all, why do humans have military bases in BODYSNATCHERS? Why else have humans colonized a distant corner of Antarctica in THE THING?
    Why are they in the land of penguins? Humans too are invasive. So, THE THING is about war between invaders. But both are also defenders of what they claim. Humans seek to defend their 'new nativist' turf in Antarctica. And the Thing tries to hold onto the humans, dogs, and other organisms it has colonized; they've become part of its turf. (There are two kinds of claimants. Of the tangible and of the intangible. Those who claim land or immovable objects are claimants of the tangible. Those who claim people's minds or mercurian systems are claimants of the intangible. Nationalist power is about taking over and defending a definite piece of territory. Christian or ideological power is about infecting and taking over the minds of people all over. Christianity doesn't have to take over Chinese territory to take over the world. It only needs to infect hearts and minds. Finance is somewhere between tangible and intangible. In the end, finance has power because money can be converted to real goods and properties. But the global financial system allows massive amounts of money-power to easily and instantly flow from one part of the world to another.)

    What the humans fear is that the Thing will try to spread out and take over all organisms around the world: all humans and all animals and maybe all plants too if such is possible. (The Thing should have turned into penguin or whale and then colonized ocean creatures and then swum to other continents.) So, the humans in The Thing try to prevent the Thing from taking over all humans in the station. If the Thing colonizes every human, then the thing-ized humans can go move to other continents and colonize other humans, and then, the human species will all be Thing-ized. The cucksters of the West have been pod-ized and thing-ized by the Glob.

    Sometimes, there is a duality, an anxiety, even in the colonized or ones being colonized. We see this in Blair in THE THING.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhZT3vw7ab8

    https://youtu.be/UZigSZ_Coio

    There are two ways the Thing can take over someone. By physically overwhelming the person, killing him, and copying his DNA. Or, it can infect a person and slowly change the person from the inside. That seems to be the case with Blair. Because he operated on the Thing, it's possible that some of the Thing germs got into his skin and bloodstreams. So, the Thing is incubating inside him like a virus and taking over gradually.
    So, there is a moment when Blair's mentality becomes dualistic. He feels the human emotions of wanting to defend the human species. But he also feels the Thing emotions of wanting to take over the human species. Among whites, some remain nationalist and resist the Glob. Some have been completely mentally colonized by it. But there are those who feel anxiety and inner-crisis. Their natural white racial instinct tells them that globalism means hell for the white race. But they've also been infected by the Glob virus that makes them feel 'racist' and wicked for feeling such thoughts. So, to suppress their 'evil' side, they might become extra-fanatical to push the Glob agenda. But then, it maybe possible to come up with new mental-vaccinations to change back the pod-people to sane nationalist white people. After all, there have been cures for certain diseases such as mumps, syphilis, and etc.

    Nativism is the flipside of invasivism. One cannot exist without the other. After all, to invade means to make an effort and a claim. It isn't merely wandering new territory accidentally or arbitrarily. It's about advancing with the purpose of making a claim upon the territory. When you invade, take over, and make a claim, it means you have to own it, defend it, guard it, and preserve it. Thus, you as invavist also must be prepared to be nativist on the territory that you have conquered and claimed. If you don't play the nativist role, other invasivie forces will take it from you, and then, the whole point of your invasion would have been for naught.

    Wolves don't have colleges and study political science, but they instinctively understand this fact of life. Wolves don't invade another territory just for the hell of it but to take over and claim it. They mark the territory with body scents and urine. They guard it through violence and group unity. So, invasivist wolves are also nativist wolves. If you invade but don't protect what you've invaded, you won't keep it because other invasivist forces will take it from you. The invavist must also be nativist to keep its bounty. It's like a taker of water needs a bucket(without holes) to keep the water. It's like the character of OLD MAN AND THE SEA is both an invasivist hunter and nativist holder of his trophy. He invades the sea to catch a marlin, but he does everything to defend his catch from other invasivist predators. Hyenas try to guard their kill from other hyena packs, leopards, and lions.
    It's like football. The game is invasivist and nativist. Each team tries to invade and grab more of the territory of the other team. But invading isn't enough. What is invaded must also be defended in nativist mode. What is taken from the Other must be guarded as Ours. Because all organisms are invasivist by nature, organisms must nativistically defend what they've invasively conquered.

    This is true of all nations. Israel was created by invasivism(but then, Jews lost it long ago to the invasivism of the Romans). Zionists arrived as invasivists and drove out the Palestinians. But Zionist Israelis must now be nativist and defend what they've claimed for themselves. Without such nativist zeal, the fate of Israeli Jews will be that of Palestinians(and Swedes in 50 yrs hence).
    The cleverest invasivists try to weaken the nativist will of their enemies or targets. Thus, the invasion is made easier, as Greeks did with the Trojans with the false gift of the Wooden Horse. But once the invasion has taken place, the invasivists must turn nativist to keep if they are to keep what they invaded and claimed.
    Jews have two ways of doing this. In the case of Israel, it is majority-nativism. Since Jews comprise the dominant demography of Israel, they can be straightforward nativist-nationalist in declaring THIS MUST BE A JEWISH STATE.
    But Jews can never take the US, Canada, and EU in such manner. Jews can never be the outright majority. So, if Jews promote nativism in such nations, it will only lead to white nativist consciousness, white pride, white unity, and white power... which may challenge Jewish minority elite supremacy. So, Jews cannot act like invading wolves in the West like they did in Palestine. They must operate more like invading viruses that penetrate into cells undetected and alter the programming from the inside. By colonizing white minds and persuading it that 'diversity' and 'multi-culturalism' are the highest & noblest goods while white identity, racial consciousness, homogeneity, and nativism are the greatest evils, white organisms become less nativist and lose the will to defend themselves against the invasivist Third World that wants access to the richer West(just like predators and parasites head for areas where food is bountiful). Worse, the PC virus might fool whites into thinking that Western Nationalist Values are all about Diversity, or endless invasion from the Third World. Now, what kind of nationalism is predicated on surrender to mass invasion? But then, Jews fooled whites into believing 'gay marriage' is the New Normal in morality.

    Now, why would the invasion of the West by the non-West be good for Jews? Won't Jews be invaded too, along with whites? There is that danger to be sure, but Jews are banking on diversity as a weapon for the ruling minority elite. More diversity means less unity among the masses. It means the elites can effectively play divide-and-rule among the disunited masses. Thus, Jewish elite power will remain secure above the fray of the squabbling gentiles divided by diversity. But, some may ask, what if the newcomers challenge Jewish elite power and status? Won't they topple the Jews one day? Jews aren't too worried since most immigrant-invasivists don't have the wherewithal to rise very high. African immigrants, Muslim immigrants, and 'Hispanic' immigrants(the non-white ones) are mostly limited in ability. East Asians can rise higher, but they lack the spark and leadership qualities to really take over. Also, too many East Asian women have kids for whites and Jews for there to be East Asian unity. The only people who might pose a threat to Jewish dominance are Asian-Indians, many of whom are intelligent and entrepreneurial. Also, Asian-Indians tend to stick together in sex and reproduction. And there are so many of them, and many more are being born. India now has 1.3 billion people and will soon be more populous than China, if it isn't already. It has more people than all of Western Europe and US combined. This is why Jews are trying to forge 'friendly' ties with Asian-Indians and Pakistanis. Jews hope for a Zio-Indo wink-wink cooperation against white power. (Pakistanis are more useful than other Muslims since they are not Arab and thus less likely to care about Israeli-Palestinian conflict.)
    But then, Jews know that have an advantage that Hindus and Pakistanis lack. Jews can pass as whites, whereas Hindus and Pakistanis can't. So, Jews play it both ways. Jews play the Asian-Indian card against whites. Jews go to Asian-Indians and Pakistanis and say, "Look, we Jews and you Indians/Pakistanis are victim-brothers against those white supremacist racist nativist scum." And Hindus and Pakistanis play along because they want continued access to the richer West. But Jews also curtail Hindu-Pakistani power in the West by playing to white fears and anxiety. The coded Jewish message to whites is, "We Jews ain't Christian, but we are 'white' too, just like you white gentiles. So, Jewish power is still white power, whereas Asian-Indian power is alien. So, white gentiles should support Jews against Asian-Indians if differences arise between Jews and Hindus."

    Jews play it like the character in YOJIMBO and A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS. They play every side against each other. They don't play it like Gregory Peck character in THE BIG COUNTRY who is also caught between two feuding clans but tries to resolve the conflict and bring peace. In contrast, Jewish globalist-supremacists thrive on the conflict among various groups. They are like Paul McCartney's 'grandfather' in A HARD DAY'S NIGHT. A king mixer.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X2DtiE7VLw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY7PSt91TKI

    Anyway, those who conquer must also be prepared to defend. Otherwise, what was the whole point of all that preparation, investment, industry, risk-taking, and sacrifice? I mean, imagine if Zionists went through all that trouble of invading Palestine and laboring to create Israel... just to hand it over to Africans, Iranians, Hindus, and Chinese. Why invade something just to let others invade it? Why climb a mountain to give the credit to another?
    To invade something means to make a claim, and once the claim is made, it has to be defended in nativist mode. Multi-culturalism is a Jewish globalist mind-virus trick that fools all nations that they must NOT defend their own lands on the basis of nativism. PC turns the claim into a 'blame' of 'white guilt'. Whites are told they must surrender to invasivism. Now, why would Jews promote such things all over the world when they don't for Israel?
    Because when all gentile nations become less nativist and defensive and embrace the cult of diversity, they will lose a sense of unity and solidarity. And that means Jewish globalist power can more easily infiltrate and penetrate and take over. Jews also use the homo-agenda to weaken the moral pride and confidence of every nation. Any nation that celebrates the perverse 'sexual' behavior of homos as the highest moral good has lost its equilibrium and bearing. Such a degenerate nation can be manipulated and subverted by any foreign power. This is why Jews are bitter about Russia's resistance to the globo-homo-agenda, the proxy of Jewish supremacists.

    Anyway, the multiculturalist experiment in the US, Canada, and EU should be studied as a cautionary lesson on what happens when nations surrender their nativism. Without nativism, your people and nation will succumb to more invasivists who arrive and take what belongs to your people: the land, the wealth, the womenfolk, and the children too(like at Rotherham) that were claimed and defended by your ancestors.

    It's true that every nation is the creation of invasivists sometime in history. Every nation, old or young, is a territory with a history of invaders and conquerors. But those invavists made a claim on what they invaded, and that meant they defended it in the mode of nativists. They, as invaders, understood and feared that invaders can be invaded in turn. So, if invaders are to keep what they've invaded, they must turn into nativists over the land that they've claimed as their own. It's no different with wolves. An invading wolf pack invades turf from another wolf pack. But then, it can also lose that territory to yet more wolf packs. So, when a wolf pack takes land, it must turn nativist defend it from others. This is why Israel has survived over the years. Zionist invaders took the land from Palestinians. But through brute force of the IDF, patriotic race-ist immigration policy open only to Jews, and nationalist education, Israel has preserved itself and prevented it from being invaded in turn by other peoples. The US used to be like a giant Israel for European folks.

    This is why all this stuff about America's 'racist' immigration policies is total BS.
    Yes, it is true that white folks invaded and took the land from Indians(and wild animals). But the whole point of invasion is to make a claim on the land you invade. After all, why go through all the trouble of invading(often a violent, bloody, and taxing process) if you're not going to make such a claim? For every ounce of happiness, there was also lots of pain in the creation and expansion of America. It took tremendous work and even great sacrifice at times. So, why should whites folks just hand over what their ancestors invaded and claimed to other would-invaders? This is especially bogus when whites did most of the work whereas the new would-be invaders just come and live off the bounty of what the ancestors of whites did to create. Whitse make something out of nothing, and others live off that something while spitting on whites. Worse, these new invaders, brainwashed by PC, spit on the graves of white people who did so much to build America.

    It's like a battle. It takes tremendous blood sacrifice. Lots of soldiers get killed. Lots of families will never see their kids again. So, if one side gains territory in war, it was often at great cost in terms of life and material. So, if territory is gained through war, it must be defended so that it won't fall to the enemy once again. If land that was won through great sacrifice won't be defended, what was all that sacrifice for?

    The reason why so many white peoples lack nativist instinct is three-fold: (1) They had it too good for too long, and they have lost the survivalist-organismic instinct (2) Pop Culture-as-main-culture has severed their ties to history and roots. So, they are unaware of the toil-and-sweat of their ancestors. Also Pop Culture makes them prefer other cultures, especially that of Negro, over their own kind since Negroes be fun, funky, and shi*. It leads to amnesiac jungle-hipster neo-savagery among white youths. (3) PC has filled whites with 'white guilt', so even whites who know something about history see it through the prism of 'white historical sins' as manipulated by Jewish-controlled media and academia. Also, PC, in cahoots with Pop Culture, made Diversity so iconic and sacrosanct that whites feel apologetic if they imagine any story or narrative that is all white and lacking in 'diversity'. So, British TV is now featuring blacks in role of white historical figures and penalizes programs that don't feature non-whites. Apparently, British History was deficient because it was too white. PC retrofits or retro-corrects history by Africanizing white heroes. It's like the TV show that has a Negro as Lancelot in the new telling of the Arthurian tale, which is also a means to promote Afro-colonization of white wombs and cuck-mindset among white males reduced to status of 'white boys'.

    People are better off studying biology than political science to understand what is really going on.

    “Political science” is a faux “science”, people are better off studying real history (admittedly it is not easy), economics and literature (or simply become avid readers) and military science, which, unlike “political science” is hard but is a real science. There is nothing to study in biology, the most people need to know, with the exception of those who go professionally in that field, is that we prefer “our own”. That, plus some basic facts, including the fact that DNA does exist.

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    There is nothing to study in biology, the most people need to know, with the exception of those who go professionally in that field, is that we prefer “our own”.

    History is story of human biology.

    Military history is study of human biological aggression.

    Economics is story of human biological drive for territory and property.

    Literature is human biological use of signs and words as weapons.

    It's all biology.

    At their root, all of human behavior are analogous to what happens among germs, animals, and plants.

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    The Truth About Macron

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    Thank you for the link:
    "The Truth About Macron: " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6H0cjIN4gw
    This is excellent.
  17. @Cyrano
    Living with Islam is like living with cancer. You might – as the author of this article suggests – accept this as irreversible situation and peacefully succumb to it, or you might try few things. It won’t be easy, but there are people who have beaten cancer, so it can be done. The other possibility is to surrender. Those are the choices. Peaceful coexistence sounds very good on paper, but you can’t peacefully coexist with a deadly disease.

    Yes, and that coexistence becomes markedly less peaceful and tolerant as the Muslims out-reproduce non-Muslims and constitute a larger & larger share of the population over time.

    Unless and until white Europeans start having babies again and regain a sense of national pride and identity, t’s not a question of WHETHER Islam will conquer Europe and Europeans, it is a question of WHEN.

    Mass expulsion of Muslims can happen, quite easily with current numbers in most European countries, and it must happen. Voluntary departure of Muslims induced by a monetary payment, whenever possible, rather than violence.

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    The fairly recent phenomena of uncontrolled immigration from all over the (3rd) world is based on the phony notion that we are all “equal”. There is no such a thing as being equal. You are either better or you are worse. Pretty much every human activity involves competition: Politics, studying, sports, employment – everything is based on competition.

    The purpose of competition is to win, not to get “equal”. If the most desired outcome of competition was to get equal, then sports won’t make sense anymore, because the most desired outcome of any match will already have been achieved before the start of the game – 0:0. So what would be the point of watching or playing any game? Just to observe the poetry in motion, or what?

    The phony generosity of the west towards the 3rd world immigrants simply means we are so much better than you that we can bestow the consolation prize of declaring you as equal. Declaring someone as equal can be very dangerous if you are not 100% sure that they will reciprocate that generosity once they are in position to decide whether they want to or not.

    Which is the situation the west is facing with Islam. Once they start to outnumber the natives in the west, I very much doubt it that they will be in egalitarian mood. It’s easy to get confirmation on this – just check today how Muslim countries treat their minorities – especially the religious ones, and then you’ll get the picture what kind of “equality” you can expect from them.

    , @dodger23
    There is a very simple solution to motivating Muslims to go back to their countries. STOP the darned wars devastating their homelands. There never was these waves of refugees when Saddam. or Qaddafi were in charge, there never was these influx of refugees from Syria before the Mega terrorists, US and Israel decided to change regimes in Syria. All these countries were stable and peacful till the terrorists in the US goverment decided that these countries needed ' democracy' None of the US muslim allies actually have ANY democracy.

    Take the government that they made in Afghanistan, it is made of ruthless thugs and warlords for whom just taking what their want is the most natural thing to do. Some years ago Kabul bank was looted by the new criminal ruling class America has created to make sure the American interests are given priority over the interests of Afghans. Americans investigated and did nothing! Honest patriotic afghans are either killed by assassins or framed for corruption, while the real corrupt elements are not even exposed by the media.

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/02/14/the-afghan-bank-heist

    But ask any Afghan or any taxi driver for that matter and they will rattle of long list of politicians and their dark deeds. These bandits in the Afghan parliament are 10000 times more dangerous than the Taliban.
    They can grab your land, your property, your daughter, your son, anything they want they take it, every second afghan who doesn't have some connection to a politician in the government have been looted and robbed.

    A relative in Kandahar who tried to legally take back land occupied by warlords went though 5 ministries to get his land freed and each of the ministries unashamedly asked for percentage of the land, that too after all the bribes had been paid for!! The man paid thousands of dollars to these roaches but nothing was achieved, its not like you can walk up to these thugs and ask for your money or even accuse them of something. If they say which money? you need to turn around and leave it at that.

    In the autumn of 2008, my dad was coming home from work and a police stopped his car at a check-point. My dad was asked to step out and when he did the police sat in his car and drove away with it, just like that. We complained to then governor (or what ever title he owned-but it equals to reining warlord) Ahmed Wali Karzai and he said he couldn't help because their were fellow tribals involved and since they were his voters he couldn't do anything about it. Yep! That's warlord democracy for you! Didn't even flinch saying it, these things are as natural in Afghanistan as snow in Wyoming. There are plenty of such stories which the western media will never ever cover because these warlords need to be paid so that they can serve AMERICA FIRST and allowing them to milk the people puts less stress on the american budget.

    So what did my Dad do! Well knowing that neither his property or his dignity was safe nor his family he had no choice but to leave. So we migrated first to Pakistan, but the Pakistanis were ordered to take the Afghans out so we went on to where we knew many of our relatives had more secure lives but my father was not happy at all.

    Take out the barbarous, thieves, murderers in Kabul and a lot of Afghans will go home. We have a beautiful country, with pure water and clean air, lots of land (which we thought we could build on when the Americans came and brought democracy and freedom but that never happened.) Large percentage or our family living in Pakistan also migrated to the west, some of whom had been living in Pakistan for the past 30-35 years and who had resisted their children or sibling's effort to relocate them to the US, have now moved there because they know they are not safe in Afghanistan.

    People in western countries preferred not to dwell on these corrupt satraps that America maintains in almost all of the countries that it has supposedly freed and now they are paying the price.
  18. @Andrei Martyanov

    People are better off studying biology than political science to understand what is really going on.
     
    "Political science" is a faux "science", people are better off studying real history (admittedly it is not easy), economics and literature (or simply become avid readers) and military science, which, unlike "political science" is hard but is a real science. There is nothing to study in biology, the most people need to know, with the exception of those who go professionally in that field, is that we prefer "our own". That, plus some basic facts, including the fact that DNA does exist.

    There is nothing to study in biology, the most people need to know, with the exception of those who go professionally in that field, is that we prefer “our own”.

    History is story of human biology.

    Military history is study of human biological aggression.

    Economics is story of human biological drive for territory and property.

    Literature is human biological use of signs and words as weapons.

    It’s all biology.

    At their root, all of human behavior are analogous to what happens among germs, animals, and plants.

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    It’s all biology.
     
    Sure, and rocket science is also biology and so is operational research and so is radar and sonar. I am sure ballistics and Fourier transformations also have something to do with biology;-) I can tell you one thing for sure--Newtonian Mechanics sure as hell has everything to do with botanic, which is a part of biology.
    , @5371
    No animal or plant has property or words, so how humans use them cannot be biological.
  19. @Priss Factor
    There is nothing to study in biology, the most people need to know, with the exception of those who go professionally in that field, is that we prefer “our own”.

    History is story of human biology.

    Military history is study of human biological aggression.

    Economics is story of human biological drive for territory and property.

    Literature is human biological use of signs and words as weapons.

    It's all biology.

    At their root, all of human behavior are analogous to what happens among germs, animals, and plants.

    It’s all biology.

    Sure, and rocket science is also biology and so is operational research and so is radar and sonar. I am sure ballistics and Fourier transformations also have something to do with biology;-) I can tell you one thing for sure–Newtonian Mechanics sure as hell has everything to do with botanic, which is a part of biology.

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    Sure, and rocket science is also biology and so is operational research and so is radar and sonar.

    In the end, all our science and technology is nothing more than a beehive made by bees, their death-star.

    Human intellect, science, and technology allow people to do amazing things, but, as DR. STRANGELOVE shows, the WHY is biological.
    In 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY, it begins with the bone and develops into a rocket ship, but the driving force is biology.

    The question is WHY do we create stuff, make stuff, innovate stuff, and etc? And this stuff we make may seem so amazing that they are divorced from biology. But we make them to serve biology: the organism's attraction to great comfort, security, fun, pleasure, power, sex, domination.

    Consider immigration. It is explained in highfalutin terms of 'proposition nation', 'huddle masses yearning to breathe free', etc. But it's just organisms seeking for greener pastures.

    Whether humans are making bows & arrows or B-52 bombers, it's the manifestation of same biological impulses. Everything we do and make is to serve our biological needs.

    Suppose we suck out all the hormones of people while leaving the intellect. Same intellect and same intelligence. But humans will just be calculating machines. Without instinct and emotions and drive, they will have no will to use their intelligence.

    They actually did such an experiment where the hormones of some guy was pulled. He just felt numb. He looked around and lacked will. And everything seemed equally 'pleasant' in this emotion-drained state. Everything seemed to be of equal value. Show such a person gold and lead, and they mean the same thing.
    To a person with emotions, gold means power, wealth, and that means success, sex, and good stuff. His hormones drive him to fight for gold.
    But to a person without emotions, gold is just like anything else. And stuff like power, success, happiness, and etc have no meaning to him since he has no emotions.

    If Einstein had no hormones and only intellect, he never would have bothered to discover the laws of the universe. No matter the ability, there would have been no drive, no will. He would have been at peace with himself doing nothing. But he had emotions, and animal emotions drive man to conquer, and this made him want to conquer knowledge and unlock the key to universe and taste the forbidden fruit. And he wanted fame and recognition. So, he was really intelligence driven by ape emotions.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toNuups_j4A

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBg9gL0fs9U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvy-AnI2M8A
  20. @RadicalCenter
    Yes, and that coexistence becomes markedly less peaceful and tolerant as the Muslims out-reproduce non-Muslims and constitute a larger & larger share of the population over time.

    Unless and until white Europeans start having babies again and regain a sense of national pride and identity, t's not a question of WHETHER Islam will conquer Europe and Europeans, it is a question of WHEN.

    Mass expulsion of Muslims can happen, quite easily with current numbers in most European countries, and it must happen. Voluntary departure of Muslims induced by a monetary payment, whenever possible, rather than violence.

    The fairly recent phenomena of uncontrolled immigration from all over the (3rd) world is based on the phony notion that we are all “equal”. There is no such a thing as being equal. You are either better or you are worse. Pretty much every human activity involves competition: Politics, studying, sports, employment – everything is based on competition.

    The purpose of competition is to win, not to get “equal”. If the most desired outcome of competition was to get equal, then sports won’t make sense anymore, because the most desired outcome of any match will already have been achieved before the start of the game – 0:0. So what would be the point of watching or playing any game? Just to observe the poetry in motion, or what?

    The phony generosity of the west towards the 3rd world immigrants simply means we are so much better than you that we can bestow the consolation prize of declaring you as equal. Declaring someone as equal can be very dangerous if you are not 100% sure that they will reciprocate that generosity once they are in position to decide whether they want to or not.

    Which is the situation the west is facing with Islam. Once they start to outnumber the natives in the west, I very much doubt it that they will be in egalitarian mood. It’s easy to get confirmation on this – just check today how Muslim countries treat their minorities – especially the religious ones, and then you’ll get the picture what kind of “equality” you can expect from them.

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  21. @Anon
    In France, the Afro-colonization of white wombs is the greatest threat since white women are into junglois feverois and since white males are raised as cuckois.

    The main threat is racial-sexual than religious.

    As Christianity is dead -- with poop as pope and homomaniacal churches -- , there is no spirituality to defend in the west. Indeed, Europeans regard mandela, MLK, and obama more sacred than Jesus.

    This is a race war whites are losing since globalist Jews colonized their minds and Africans are colonizing white wombs, thus aborting the white babies that could have been, Everytime a Negro takes a white woman, he is killing a white child cuz the white womb is producing a black baby in its stead. Imagine if your mother went with a negro.

    You would have been afro-aborted. In your stead, your mother's womb would have produced a negro kid.

    homossexuality = no-”spirituality”, derstand, ;)

    https://cdn.meme.am/instances/65140836.jpg

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  22. @ia
    This author better visit India and see for himself what happens when Muslims move in. LOL. Hell on earth after 1000 years.

    Truth.

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  23. @Anatoly Karlin

    So even if the current generation is poorly educated and not integrated in the European society, the next one will. I have seen that with many other economic migrants such as Italians or Albanians.
     
    Didn't happen with the first generation, nor with the second, but surely the next generation of 85 IQ inbreds will finally be the one to converge to European standards. Third time's the charm!

    But I am pretty sure that most of them were Gladio-style false flags executed by EU or US special services.
     
    I for one am pretty sure most of them were Illuminati-style false flags executed by biomechanically augmented cyborgs.

    As for Chechnia, Putin has made Ramzan Kadyrov something of a “political son” and has given the Chechens extremely wide autonomy, especially in matters of religion.
     
    Don't forget the minor matter of gibsmedats equivalent to 85% of their local budget.

    The point here is that after centuries of warfare both Muslims and Orthodox Christians have learned how to coexist in peace and even create something truly beautiful, like this Kremlin, together.
     
    Volga Tatars have an average IQ of around 100 (equivalent to Russia/Europe), and are almost as secular as the average Russian. In other words, they are the exception that proves the rule. None of that applies to the Muslims of the North Caucasus or Central Asia, the latter of whom are immigrating to Russia by the millions. Nor of course to the Muslims flooding into Europe.

    Not saying you’re wrong, AK. But considering Russia’s supposedly high average IQ, why is it such a corrupt, crime-infested shithole?

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    One could easily apply that logic to the United States' top 150 cities, starting with the Federal political, military and intelligence leadership in Washington DC. Careful with your assumption on Russia, it's an easy one to stand on its head.
    , @Verymuchalive
    You could say the same about the US. By W European standards the crime rate in America is high.
    Both Russia and America have majority white, European populations which are able to maintain the normal functions of society despite the comparatively high crime rates.
    Where you have high crime rates and low IQ populations, then you see societal collapse, whether it be Venezuela or South Africa.
    , @John Gruskos
    Russia was systematically ravaged twice within the past century, first by the Bolsheviks and then by the 1990s oligarchs.

    It will take time for the wounds to heal.
  24. You really believe all this garbage you write? These arent called no go zones in Europe for nothing. There is a clear and present danger that cannot be ignored.

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  25. @Andrei Martyanov

    It’s all biology.
     
    Sure, and rocket science is also biology and so is operational research and so is radar and sonar. I am sure ballistics and Fourier transformations also have something to do with biology;-) I can tell you one thing for sure--Newtonian Mechanics sure as hell has everything to do with botanic, which is a part of biology.

    Sure, and rocket science is also biology and so is operational research and so is radar and sonar.

    In the end, all our science and technology is nothing more than a beehive made by bees, their death-star.

    Human intellect, science, and technology allow people to do amazing things, but, as DR. STRANGELOVE shows, the WHY is biological.
    In 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY, it begins with the bone and develops into a rocket ship, but the driving force is biology.

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    The question is WHY do we create stuff, make stuff, innovate stuff, and etc? And this stuff we make may seem so amazing that they are divorced from biology. But we make them to serve biology: the organism’s attraction to great comfort, security, fun, pleasure, power, sex, domination.

    Consider immigration. It is explained in highfalutin terms of ‘proposition nation’, ‘huddle masses yearning to breathe free’, etc. But it’s just organisms seeking for greener pastures.

    Whether humans are making bows & arrows or B-52 bombers, it’s the manifestation of same biological impulses. Everything we do and make is to serve our biological needs.

    Suppose we suck out all the hormones of people while leaving the intellect. Same intellect and same intelligence. But humans will just be calculating machines. Without instinct and emotions and drive, they will have no will to use their intelligence.

    They actually did such an experiment where the hormones of some guy was pulled. He just felt numb. He looked around and lacked will. And everything seemed equally ‘pleasant’ in this emotion-drained state. Everything seemed to be of equal value. Show such a person gold and lead, and they mean the same thing.
    To a person with emotions, gold means power, wealth, and that means success, sex, and good stuff. His hormones drive him to fight for gold.
    But to a person without emotions, gold is just like anything else. And stuff like power, success, happiness, and etc have no meaning to him since he has no emotions.

    If Einstein had no hormones and only intellect, he never would have bothered to discover the laws of the universe. No matter the ability, there would have been no drive, no will. He would have been at peace with himself doing nothing. But he had emotions, and animal emotions drive man to conquer, and this made him want to conquer knowledge and unlock the key to universe and taste the forbidden fruit. And he wanted fame and recognition. So, he was really intelligence driven by ape emotions.

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  26. One thing that many people in these debates fail to notice is that many Muslims in the West leave the fold. While some first generation Muslims double down on their Muslim identity and become more Muslim, equal numbers leave the religion, marry outside, and their children are not raised Muslim. I know plenty of Muslims in the West that have done so. The same is true about all tight-knit religious communities that impose a restrictive lifestyle, such as Mormons, Orthodox Jews, and others. They breed and they breed and they breed, but they lose many of those that they breed to secularism and modernity. The town I live in is full of ex-Mormons, for example. For this reason, I find all notions of “Eurabia” and the looming “Muslim takeover” to be alarmism. That said, I do think that open borders is suicide and the west needs to shut the border, and fast. But once that is done, the situation will take care of itself. There will always be an annoying small minority of hardcore Muslims, but this lifestyle is so unattractive that they always remain a small minority.

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    One thing that many people in these debates fail to notice is that many Muslims in the West leave the fold. While some first generation Muslims double down on their Muslim identity and become more Muslim, equal numbers leave the religion, marry outside, and their children are not raised Muslim.
     
    Fact: Second-generation and third generation Muslims are more radical than the first generation.

    I know plenty of Muslims in the West that have done so.
     
    The plural of anecdote is not data.

    The same is true about all tight-knit religious communities that impose a restrictive lifestyle, such as Mormons, Orthodox Jews, and others. They breed and they breed and they breed, but they lose many of those that they breed to secularism and modernity.
     
    Some members of tight-knit religious communities leave the community and become secular (that is, low birthrate) while other member remain in the community (that is, birth rate). So we have two important rates: the rate of abandonment of the community and the birth rate differential between secular ex-members and religious members of the community.

    If the second rate is highest than the first one, the community will increase in percentage with respect to the general population. If the first rate is highest than the second one, the community will decrease in percentage with respect to the general population.

    So what's the reality? Well, instead of your proof by assertion ("because I say so") and non-representative samples ("I know plenty of Muslims and ex-Mormons"), I am going to give real data.

    When David Ben Gurion founded the state of Israel, Orthodox Jews were a few hundreds. Now they are a third of the population of Israel and growing. So, clearly, the rate of abandonment is lower than the birth rate differential.

    Orthodox Jews were a minority in America. Starting from 2042, they will be the majority of Jews in USA.

    What about Amish? "The Young Center for Anabaptist and Pietist Studies at Elizabethtown College reports that the population has been doubling every 20 years because of large family sizes and a retention rate of around 90 percent." (that is, abandonment is 10%) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/17/ageold-amish-experience-a_n_683967.html

    What about Mormons? See here how their population is skyrocketing. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/LDSChurchMembership2015.png/900px-LDSChurchMembership2015.png

    (The population of seculars is not skyrocketing).

    Muslims in Europe are a trickier question because you have to take into account immigration besides reproduction and retention.

    Do you want more accurate scientific studies? Buy the book "Shall the religious inherit the earth?", written by a secular scientist. It shows that religious are increasing their number in all religions.


    For this reason, I find all notions of “Eurabia” and the looming “Muslim takeover” to be alarmism.
     
    Yes, this is your opinion. Too bad the facts are against your opinion.

    There will always be an annoying small minority of hardcore Muslims, but this lifestyle is so unattractive that they always remain a small minority.
     
    Tell this to the Amish. Living like in the 17th century. Terribly unattractive, right? Retention rate of 90% and population skyrocketing.

    Excuse me, but

    a) The things that seem unattractive to you can be attractive for other people.
    b) The Muslims and ex-Mormons you know are not all the Muslim and ex-Mormons in the world.

    , @RadicalCenter
    Murder, rape, assault, and constant threats against individuals and the host society, those are more than mere "annoyances."

    Either you are Muslim and lying to us us into further complaecence, or you are fatally naive and Ill-informed about how nonMuslims get treated in Muslim societies and how 25% Muslim eventually becomes 90-100% Muslim through unrelenting force and intimidation.

    Never should have let ANY known or admitted Muslims into any of our countries.
  27. @Priss Factor
    People are better off studying biology than political science to understand what is really going on.

    All organisms, including humans of course, are invasivist(offensive) and nativist(defensive). Some are more invasive than others, but all are invasive to some measure. Some are more nativist than others, but all must also be nativist to some degree.

    Living organisms are not content to stay put. They like to spread out and take over more turf. If bacteria or viruses are making a person sick, they are NOT content to stick with that man. They spread out and take over other men and women. It's like the pod things in THE INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS. Or the morphing organism in THE THING.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okW2UfLNaJc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p35JDJLa9ec

    It has this need to take over other areas. But humans are like that too. After all, why do humans have military bases in BODYSNATCHERS? Why else have humans colonized a distant corner of Antarctica in THE THING?
    Why are they in the land of penguins? Humans too are invasive. So, THE THING is about war between invaders. But both are also defenders of what they claim. Humans seek to defend their 'new nativist' turf in Antarctica. And the Thing tries to hold onto the humans, dogs, and other organisms it has colonized; they've become part of its turf. (There are two kinds of claimants. Of the tangible and of the intangible. Those who claim land or immovable objects are claimants of the tangible. Those who claim people's minds or mercurian systems are claimants of the intangible. Nationalist power is about taking over and defending a definite piece of territory. Christian or ideological power is about infecting and taking over the minds of people all over. Christianity doesn't have to take over Chinese territory to take over the world. It only needs to infect hearts and minds. Finance is somewhere between tangible and intangible. In the end, finance has power because money can be converted to real goods and properties. But the global financial system allows massive amounts of money-power to easily and instantly flow from one part of the world to another.)

    What the humans fear is that the Thing will try to spread out and take over all organisms around the world: all humans and all animals and maybe all plants too if such is possible. (The Thing should have turned into penguin or whale and then colonized ocean creatures and then swum to other continents.) So, the humans in The Thing try to prevent the Thing from taking over all humans in the station. If the Thing colonizes every human, then the thing-ized humans can go move to other continents and colonize other humans, and then, the human species will all be Thing-ized. The cucksters of the West have been pod-ized and thing-ized by the Glob.

    Sometimes, there is a duality, an anxiety, even in the colonized or ones being colonized. We see this in Blair in THE THING.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhZT3vw7ab8

    https://youtu.be/UZigSZ_Coio

    There are two ways the Thing can take over someone. By physically overwhelming the person, killing him, and copying his DNA. Or, it can infect a person and slowly change the person from the inside. That seems to be the case with Blair. Because he operated on the Thing, it's possible that some of the Thing germs got into his skin and bloodstreams. So, the Thing is incubating inside him like a virus and taking over gradually.
    So, there is a moment when Blair's mentality becomes dualistic. He feels the human emotions of wanting to defend the human species. But he also feels the Thing emotions of wanting to take over the human species. Among whites, some remain nationalist and resist the Glob. Some have been completely mentally colonized by it. But there are those who feel anxiety and inner-crisis. Their natural white racial instinct tells them that globalism means hell for the white race. But they've also been infected by the Glob virus that makes them feel 'racist' and wicked for feeling such thoughts. So, to suppress their 'evil' side, they might become extra-fanatical to push the Glob agenda. But then, it maybe possible to come up with new mental-vaccinations to change back the pod-people to sane nationalist white people. After all, there have been cures for certain diseases such as mumps, syphilis, and etc.

    Nativism is the flipside of invasivism. One cannot exist without the other. After all, to invade means to make an effort and a claim. It isn't merely wandering new territory accidentally or arbitrarily. It's about advancing with the purpose of making a claim upon the territory. When you invade, take over, and make a claim, it means you have to own it, defend it, guard it, and preserve it. Thus, you as invavist also must be prepared to be nativist on the territory that you have conquered and claimed. If you don't play the nativist role, other invasivie forces will take it from you, and then, the whole point of your invasion would have been for naught.

    Wolves don't have colleges and study political science, but they instinctively understand this fact of life. Wolves don't invade another territory just for the hell of it but to take over and claim it. They mark the territory with body scents and urine. They guard it through violence and group unity. So, invasivist wolves are also nativist wolves. If you invade but don't protect what you've invaded, you won't keep it because other invasivist forces will take it from you. The invavist must also be nativist to keep its bounty. It's like a taker of water needs a bucket(without holes) to keep the water. It's like the character of OLD MAN AND THE SEA is both an invasivist hunter and nativist holder of his trophy. He invades the sea to catch a marlin, but he does everything to defend his catch from other invasivist predators. Hyenas try to guard their kill from other hyena packs, leopards, and lions.
    It's like football. The game is invasivist and nativist. Each team tries to invade and grab more of the territory of the other team. But invading isn't enough. What is invaded must also be defended in nativist mode. What is taken from the Other must be guarded as Ours. Because all organisms are invasivist by nature, organisms must nativistically defend what they've invasively conquered.

    This is true of all nations. Israel was created by invasivism(but then, Jews lost it long ago to the invasivism of the Romans). Zionists arrived as invasivists and drove out the Palestinians. But Zionist Israelis must now be nativist and defend what they've claimed for themselves. Without such nativist zeal, the fate of Israeli Jews will be that of Palestinians(and Swedes in 50 yrs hence).
    The cleverest invasivists try to weaken the nativist will of their enemies or targets. Thus, the invasion is made easier, as Greeks did with the Trojans with the false gift of the Wooden Horse. But once the invasion has taken place, the invasivists must turn nativist to keep if they are to keep what they invaded and claimed.
    Jews have two ways of doing this. In the case of Israel, it is majority-nativism. Since Jews comprise the dominant demography of Israel, they can be straightforward nativist-nationalist in declaring THIS MUST BE A JEWISH STATE.
    But Jews can never take the US, Canada, and EU in such manner. Jews can never be the outright majority. So, if Jews promote nativism in such nations, it will only lead to white nativist consciousness, white pride, white unity, and white power... which may challenge Jewish minority elite supremacy. So, Jews cannot act like invading wolves in the West like they did in Palestine. They must operate more like invading viruses that penetrate into cells undetected and alter the programming from the inside. By colonizing white minds and persuading it that 'diversity' and 'multi-culturalism' are the highest & noblest goods while white identity, racial consciousness, homogeneity, and nativism are the greatest evils, white organisms become less nativist and lose the will to defend themselves against the invasivist Third World that wants access to the richer West(just like predators and parasites head for areas where food is bountiful). Worse, the PC virus might fool whites into thinking that Western Nationalist Values are all about Diversity, or endless invasion from the Third World. Now, what kind of nationalism is predicated on surrender to mass invasion? But then, Jews fooled whites into believing 'gay marriage' is the New Normal in morality.

    Now, why would the invasion of the West by the non-West be good for Jews? Won't Jews be invaded too, along with whites? There is that danger to be sure, but Jews are banking on diversity as a weapon for the ruling minority elite. More diversity means less unity among the masses. It means the elites can effectively play divide-and-rule among the disunited masses. Thus, Jewish elite power will remain secure above the fray of the squabbling gentiles divided by diversity. But, some may ask, what if the newcomers challenge Jewish elite power and status? Won't they topple the Jews one day? Jews aren't too worried since most immigrant-invasivists don't have the wherewithal to rise very high. African immigrants, Muslim immigrants, and 'Hispanic' immigrants(the non-white ones) are mostly limited in ability. East Asians can rise higher, but they lack the spark and leadership qualities to really take over. Also, too many East Asian women have kids for whites and Jews for there to be East Asian unity. The only people who might pose a threat to Jewish dominance are Asian-Indians, many of whom are intelligent and entrepreneurial. Also, Asian-Indians tend to stick together in sex and reproduction. And there are so many of them, and many more are being born. India now has 1.3 billion people and will soon be more populous than China, if it isn't already. It has more people than all of Western Europe and US combined. This is why Jews are trying to forge 'friendly' ties with Asian-Indians and Pakistanis. Jews hope for a Zio-Indo wink-wink cooperation against white power. (Pakistanis are more useful than other Muslims since they are not Arab and thus less likely to care about Israeli-Palestinian conflict.)
    But then, Jews know that have an advantage that Hindus and Pakistanis lack. Jews can pass as whites, whereas Hindus and Pakistanis can't. So, Jews play it both ways. Jews play the Asian-Indian card against whites. Jews go to Asian-Indians and Pakistanis and say, "Look, we Jews and you Indians/Pakistanis are victim-brothers against those white supremacist racist nativist scum." And Hindus and Pakistanis play along because they want continued access to the richer West. But Jews also curtail Hindu-Pakistani power in the West by playing to white fears and anxiety. The coded Jewish message to whites is, "We Jews ain't Christian, but we are 'white' too, just like you white gentiles. So, Jewish power is still white power, whereas Asian-Indian power is alien. So, white gentiles should support Jews against Asian-Indians if differences arise between Jews and Hindus."

    Jews play it like the character in YOJIMBO and A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS. They play every side against each other. They don't play it like Gregory Peck character in THE BIG COUNTRY who is also caught between two feuding clans but tries to resolve the conflict and bring peace. In contrast, Jewish globalist-supremacists thrive on the conflict among various groups. They are like Paul McCartney's 'grandfather' in A HARD DAY'S NIGHT. A king mixer.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X2DtiE7VLw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY7PSt91TKI

    Anyway, those who conquer must also be prepared to defend. Otherwise, what was the whole point of all that preparation, investment, industry, risk-taking, and sacrifice? I mean, imagine if Zionists went through all that trouble of invading Palestine and laboring to create Israel... just to hand it over to Africans, Iranians, Hindus, and Chinese. Why invade something just to let others invade it? Why climb a mountain to give the credit to another?
    To invade something means to make a claim, and once the claim is made, it has to be defended in nativist mode. Multi-culturalism is a Jewish globalist mind-virus trick that fools all nations that they must NOT defend their own lands on the basis of nativism. PC turns the claim into a 'blame' of 'white guilt'. Whites are told they must surrender to invasivism. Now, why would Jews promote such things all over the world when they don't for Israel?
    Because when all gentile nations become less nativist and defensive and embrace the cult of diversity, they will lose a sense of unity and solidarity. And that means Jewish globalist power can more easily infiltrate and penetrate and take over. Jews also use the homo-agenda to weaken the moral pride and confidence of every nation. Any nation that celebrates the perverse 'sexual' behavior of homos as the highest moral good has lost its equilibrium and bearing. Such a degenerate nation can be manipulated and subverted by any foreign power. This is why Jews are bitter about Russia's resistance to the globo-homo-agenda, the proxy of Jewish supremacists.

    Anyway, the multiculturalist experiment in the US, Canada, and EU should be studied as a cautionary lesson on what happens when nations surrender their nativism. Without nativism, your people and nation will succumb to more invasivists who arrive and take what belongs to your people: the land, the wealth, the womenfolk, and the children too(like at Rotherham) that were claimed and defended by your ancestors.

    It's true that every nation is the creation of invasivists sometime in history. Every nation, old or young, is a territory with a history of invaders and conquerors. But those invavists made a claim on what they invaded, and that meant they defended it in the mode of nativists. They, as invaders, understood and feared that invaders can be invaded in turn. So, if invaders are to keep what they've invaded, they must turn into nativists over the land that they've claimed as their own. It's no different with wolves. An invading wolf pack invades turf from another wolf pack. But then, it can also lose that territory to yet more wolf packs. So, when a wolf pack takes land, it must turn nativist defend it from others. This is why Israel has survived over the years. Zionist invaders took the land from Palestinians. But through brute force of the IDF, patriotic race-ist immigration policy open only to Jews, and nationalist education, Israel has preserved itself and prevented it from being invaded in turn by other peoples. The US used to be like a giant Israel for European folks.

    This is why all this stuff about America's 'racist' immigration policies is total BS.
    Yes, it is true that white folks invaded and took the land from Indians(and wild animals). But the whole point of invasion is to make a claim on the land you invade. After all, why go through all the trouble of invading(often a violent, bloody, and taxing process) if you're not going to make such a claim? For every ounce of happiness, there was also lots of pain in the creation and expansion of America. It took tremendous work and even great sacrifice at times. So, why should whites folks just hand over what their ancestors invaded and claimed to other would-invaders? This is especially bogus when whites did most of the work whereas the new would-be invaders just come and live off the bounty of what the ancestors of whites did to create. Whitse make something out of nothing, and others live off that something while spitting on whites. Worse, these new invaders, brainwashed by PC, spit on the graves of white people who did so much to build America.

    It's like a battle. It takes tremendous blood sacrifice. Lots of soldiers get killed. Lots of families will never see their kids again. So, if one side gains territory in war, it was often at great cost in terms of life and material. So, if territory is gained through war, it must be defended so that it won't fall to the enemy once again. If land that was won through great sacrifice won't be defended, what was all that sacrifice for?

    The reason why so many white peoples lack nativist instinct is three-fold: (1) They had it too good for too long, and they have lost the survivalist-organismic instinct (2) Pop Culture-as-main-culture has severed their ties to history and roots. So, they are unaware of the toil-and-sweat of their ancestors. Also Pop Culture makes them prefer other cultures, especially that of Negro, over their own kind since Negroes be fun, funky, and shi*. It leads to amnesiac jungle-hipster neo-savagery among white youths. (3) PC has filled whites with 'white guilt', so even whites who know something about history see it through the prism of 'white historical sins' as manipulated by Jewish-controlled media and academia. Also, PC, in cahoots with Pop Culture, made Diversity so iconic and sacrosanct that whites feel apologetic if they imagine any story or narrative that is all white and lacking in 'diversity'. So, British TV is now featuring blacks in role of white historical figures and penalizes programs that don't feature non-whites. Apparently, British History was deficient because it was too white. PC retrofits or retro-corrects history by Africanizing white heroes. It's like the TV show that has a Negro as Lancelot in the new telling of the Arthurian tale, which is also a means to promote Afro-colonization of white wombs and cuck-mindset among white males reduced to status of 'white boys'.

    So you are saying that Chinese have no chance against the globo-jews? I was hoping they would put up a good fight.

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  28. @German_reader
    "For example, did you notice the vast majority of these so-called “Islamic” crazies had strong ties to the European security services? That some of them even had traveled to Israel? Doesn’t it seem strange to you that their attacks somehow always seem to be scheduled to coincide with important political events in Europe? Could there have been a genuine ISIS attack in Europe? Yes. But I am pretty sure that most of them were Gladio-style false flags executed by EU or US special services."

    These conspiracy theories are simply demented. I don't know why a certain type of Christian reactionary who dislikes the modern West (which I do as well, but for different reasons) is so bizarrely sympathetic to Islam and thinks relations between Muslims and non-Muslims would be just fine if it weren't for scheming "AngloZionists" or whatever.
    TheSaker is probably right that mass expulsions of Muslims from Western Europe won't happen and an Islamic presence is here to stay (unless things get really ugly with open civil war). But apart from that, I can't agree...seems like mostly wishful thinking to me.

    These conspiracy theories are simply demented.

    They will seem demented to any honest and straightforward mind. You just can’t imagine or accept the level of evil and perfidy of those who perpetrate false flags and and who are able to create patsies out of innocent people. Perhaps by being German you are more handicapped than others in this department. Germans invented the 2nd Categorical Imperative and they internalized it pretty well, so operating on levels where you treat other human purely instrumentally with utmost perfidy Germans are simply lacking necessary talents. Germans never had much talents in this department. Look at the Reichstag fire trial. They were unable to secure the conviction for all accused. Can you imagine a trial like that in Moscow in 1930s? Or in post 9/11 America? Everybody would be convicted. Look at Herschel Grynszpan. They could not engineer a show trial after they got him and then they kept him not knowing what to do (and probably he survived). Do you think Brits, Soviets or Israeli would miss such a propaganda opportunity? Look at Gleiwitz incident. Did it even happen as we were told it happened during Nuremberg trials? When you do a false flag you suppose to write about it in newspapers, right? That is the whole point of the false flags, right? But apparently nobody heard about Gleiwitz until the end of war when Americans procured a testimony of the alleged perpetrators. So I might be not that surprised why you seem to be that dense in this department. Anyway, Saker is right: There might be some organic genuine terror attacks by some fools but most of what we see in recent years in Europe comes from operations like Gladio. The Polish truck in Berlin was a Gladio operation too. Looks like German security services are learning from the masters. Still they messed up with a passport because some good citizen and not crooks cop apprehended somebody who was not meant to be a patsy. They ha dot go to plan B and they planted a passport few days later and from a dead guy in Italy.

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    Why would German security forces want to ram a truck into a Christmas market and kill and injure so many.
    I'm interested in why they did it. Or was it the Israelis? Neo Nazis?
    , @Wally
    The alleged Gleiwitz Incident has been utterly refuted, see:
    http://www.cwporter.com/gleiwitz.htm

    https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/alfred-naujocks-and-the-start-of-world-war-ii/

    http://carolynyeager.net/gleiwitz-%E2%80%9Cfalse-flag%E2%80%9D-incident-pure-fiction

    more here:
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7282
  29. @Anatoly Karlin

    So even if the current generation is poorly educated and not integrated in the European society, the next one will. I have seen that with many other economic migrants such as Italians or Albanians.
     
    Didn't happen with the first generation, nor with the second, but surely the next generation of 85 IQ inbreds will finally be the one to converge to European standards. Third time's the charm!

    But I am pretty sure that most of them were Gladio-style false flags executed by EU or US special services.
     
    I for one am pretty sure most of them were Illuminati-style false flags executed by biomechanically augmented cyborgs.

    As for Chechnia, Putin has made Ramzan Kadyrov something of a “political son” and has given the Chechens extremely wide autonomy, especially in matters of religion.
     
    Don't forget the minor matter of gibsmedats equivalent to 85% of their local budget.

    The point here is that after centuries of warfare both Muslims and Orthodox Christians have learned how to coexist in peace and even create something truly beautiful, like this Kremlin, together.
     
    Volga Tatars have an average IQ of around 100 (equivalent to Russia/Europe), and are almost as secular as the average Russian. In other words, they are the exception that proves the rule. None of that applies to the Muslims of the North Caucasus or Central Asia, the latter of whom are immigrating to Russia by the millions. Nor of course to the Muslims flooding into Europe.

    I for one am pretty sure most of them were Illuminati-style false flags executed by biomechanically augmented cyborgs.

    Come on, Karlin, you are not that stupid. How is the proselytizing of the gospel of Charles Murray going in Moscow?

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    I for one am pretty sure most of them were Illuminati-style false flags executed by biomechanically augmented cyborgs.
     
    Come on, Karlin, you are not that stupid.
     
    I don't think he is, no. It's willful ignorance. Karlin is in some kind of competition with some others here to see how much Zionist d*** he can get down his throat.

    Have you noticed how these guys always resort to this sort of lame sarcasm when somebody hits this kind of Zio third rail of false flag terrorism? Like that ghastly Stefan Molyneux creature. Or Fred Reed in his "Legion of the Tinfoil Hat" nonsense article...
  30. @rw95
    Not saying you're wrong, AK. But considering Russia's supposedly high average IQ, why is it such a corrupt, crime-infested shithole?

    One could easily apply that logic to the United States’ top 150 cities, starting with the Federal political, military and intelligence leadership in Washington DC. Careful with your assumption on Russia, it’s an easy one to stand on its head.

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  31. @rw95
    Not saying you're wrong, AK. But considering Russia's supposedly high average IQ, why is it such a corrupt, crime-infested shithole?

    You could say the same about the US. By W European standards the crime rate in America is high.
    Both Russia and America have majority white, European populations which are able to maintain the normal functions of society despite the comparatively high crime rates.
    Where you have high crime rates and low IQ populations, then you see societal collapse, whether it be Venezuela or South Africa.

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    Agreed for the most part, but can Russian society really be called "functional?"
    , @Swing
    When did south African society collapse.
  32. @Quartermaster

    But the West it too busy demonizing everything “Putin” and supporting anything russophobic, such as the Nazis in the Ukraine, that it simply cannot follow this example.
     
    You just can't get past this BS. I'm sure you write it off as simply not true, and that's your problem because you simply deny the facts hoping they will go away. They won't.

    Putin is an idiot accommodating Muslims. But, then, he seems to like stupidity. He's mush like you Saker. Much like you.

    By the by. The Nazis are in Moscow. The place is filthy with skinheads and other Neo-nazis. They are almost non-existent in Ukraine.

    Neocon moron.

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  33. “That Sharia law will be imposed on everybody”.

    So, you expect these Moslem immigrants to restrain themselves from imposing Sharia law on everybody else when they reach 55% of the population? Do you know how democracy works?

    As for Moslems being “bad, bad, bad, bad”, I don’t really care what they are, but I do know that I do not want them in Europe at all. They have no place here.

    I didn’t see how it could happen; but Nostradamus predicted a Moslem invasion of Europe and he does not predict a happy outcome for the former indigenous European population who are standing idly by watching this invasion happen. The blockheads on the European Commission and an imbecile German Chancellor are making it happen.

    kerdasi amaq

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  34. Well, that’s the last time I read a Saker article that has “Islam” or “Muslim” in the title. Sorry, Saker, just because Russia does it, it doesn’t mean that it’s right or practical in the long run. I say this as a reader who likes most of your posts.

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  35. @woodNfish
    "Tensions between Muslims and non-Muslims ... and not only due to some more or less racist..."

    Oh here we go with the racist crap again. Racism is a phony Western concept that tries to make the natural human desire to be with your own kind into a bad thing. It isn't, and "muslim" is not a race. There is no reasonable argument that can be made that Europeans or anyone else has to accept foreigners into their countries and communities. The solution to this problem is to kill the globalist traitors trying to force this on us. Nothing else is going to stop it.

    “Oh here we go with the racist crap again. Racism is a phony Western concept that tries to make the natural human desire to be with your own kind into a bad thing.”

    Racism is a genuine human construct rooted on centuries of historical phenomenon.

    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.

    “It isn’t, and “muslim” is not a race.”

    You are right, for once. Muslim is referred to as a follower of Islam. Followers of Islam come from different races.

    “There is no reasonable argument that can be made that Europeans or anyone else has to accept foreigners into their countries and communities.”

    Just because person is not willing to accept something does not mean the argument being made is other than reasonable.

    “The solution to this problem is to kill the globalist traitors trying to force this on us. Nothing else is going to stop it.”

    So, are you going to take that your white rage and partake in this endeavor, or remain on the sidelines as an impotent white? How much longer are you willing to wait before the globalists eventually take you out?

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  36. If the nations of Europe enacted a moratorium on all future immigration from the Middle East, deported all illegal immigrants, cracked down hard on radical Sunni terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda and ISIS, ended affirmative action and welfare for immigrants, and ended “no go zone” policing, I suspect many Muslim legal immigrants would choose to self deport.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    Thanks for your laundry list of virtual impossibilities.
  37. @rw95
    Not saying you're wrong, AK. But considering Russia's supposedly high average IQ, why is it such a corrupt, crime-infested shithole?

    Russia was systematically ravaged twice within the past century, first by the Bolsheviks and then by the 1990s oligarchs.

    It will take time for the wounds to heal.

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    • Replies: @rw95
    This is exactly like saying colonialism is responsible for Africa's shithole status.

    EUROPEANS ARE NOT EQUAL. Eastern Europe has always been a shithole (on average) in comparison to western Europe. Get over it.
  38. Having lived among muslims in the U.K. and now encountering them in Japan too, I agree that the doors of non-muslim countries should be shut to them. They may or may not assimilate in time, but they’re horribly annoying until they do, and why suffer that if you don’t have to?

    Even the muslims here in Japan studying advanced science degrees post unscientific and antifactual crap on Facebook about the nature of their god and what happens if you eat pork and consume alcohol (surprisingly, the answer isn’t ‘digestion’). Their religion makes it impossible for them to hold and profess simple truths, which makes them unfit as even casual companions. It makes no difference which country they come from either or to which race they belong. But as muslims, they all glom together and wallow in the same bullshit.

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    • Agree: utu, RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Che Guava

    I agree that the doors of non-muslim countries should be shut to them.
     
    I agree, They tend not to be here for too long, but it is as if they badly want a toe-hold.

    There was one man here, huge beard, pyjamas, the passengers in his car looked like Jihad Inc. His wife wore a space-suit. Saw him with his family a few times, it was sad, son dressed freely, daughter not, wife in space-suit.

    I would guess that he had a teaching job (about Islam) at the uni. nearby. Would also guess that he was as much of a fanatic as he looked.

    He is not around any more.

    For a more interesting story, I lived in Singapore for five years, finished primary school and started high school at normal (but good, they have meritocratic selection) schools there. So I like the food.

    There is no good restaurant to making it in Tokyo. So, I checked on the 'net. There was a blog by a fat and fanatically devout Malay woman, main topic how 'halal' the places (few) were.

    One was run by the Malaysian embassy. She was excited by her patrol activities there, to make sure that ethnic malays did not touch glasses containing beer, for example.

    She also had an 'Are you a good Muslim?' quiz on her blog. I forget most of it, but one was

    How many children should you have?

    A. Two or three, to provide for them as well as you can.

    B. A soccer team, to provide many soldiers for Allah.


    There were a couple of other choices for that question, but 'soccer team' was the right answer for that one.

    How irresponsible is that?

    Took a friend to the restaurant, sure enough the patrollers were clearly strutting along the floor outside, but walking the length of the arcade. I would guess that was to avoid complaints to the police.

    The food was alright, not great, better than anywhere else here for that style. The place is now long closed. It was popular, I would guess the jihad patrollers had a major role in having it closed.

    I now avoid any restaurants that appear to be run by moslems, and recommend that to others, they also (here) seem to have a high rate of setting their places on fire for insurance money.
  39. @utu
    I for one am pretty sure most of them were Illuminati-style false flags executed by biomechanically augmented cyborgs.

    Come on, Karlin, you are not that stupid. How is the proselytizing of the gospel of Charles Murray going in Moscow?

    I for one am pretty sure most of them were Illuminati-style false flags executed by biomechanically augmented cyborgs.

    Come on, Karlin, you are not that stupid.

    I don’t think he is, no. It’s willful ignorance. Karlin is in some kind of competition with some others here to see how much Zionist d*** he can get down his throat.

    Have you noticed how these guys always resort to this sort of lame sarcasm when somebody hits this kind of Zio third rail of false flag terrorism? Like that ghastly Stefan Molyneux creature. Or Fred Reed in his “Legion of the Tinfoil Hat” nonsense article…

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    • Replies: @utu
    It is very simple. He knows what can be potentially fatal to a career in this world. He also explains the world by the hierarchy of IQ's and ethnicity. This is another indication for a very affirmative attitude, with respect to who gives the blow jobs and who receives them. Now he is on a mission to Russia to proselytize the HBD gospel as he wrote somewhere. Who is paying for it? The same people who supported Charle Murray? Anyway, Russians should be very wary about this renegade.
    , @Kurt van Ghoye
    Asking as a fan of both your articles and Stefan's show, what's your beef with him?
  40. @Jonathan Revusky


    I for one am pretty sure most of them were Illuminati-style false flags executed by biomechanically augmented cyborgs.
     
    Come on, Karlin, you are not that stupid.
     
    I don't think he is, no. It's willful ignorance. Karlin is in some kind of competition with some others here to see how much Zionist d*** he can get down his throat.

    Have you noticed how these guys always resort to this sort of lame sarcasm when somebody hits this kind of Zio third rail of false flag terrorism? Like that ghastly Stefan Molyneux creature. Or Fred Reed in his "Legion of the Tinfoil Hat" nonsense article...

    It is very simple. He knows what can be potentially fatal to a career in this world. He also explains the world by the hierarchy of IQ’s and ethnicity. This is another indication for a very affirmative attitude, with respect to who gives the blow jobs and who receives them. Now he is on a mission to Russia to proselytize the HBD gospel as he wrote somewhere. Who is paying for it? The same people who supported Charle Murray? Anyway, Russians should be very wary about this renegade.

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    • Replies: @Mao Cheng Ji

    Now he is on a mission to Russia to proselytize the HBD gospel as he wrote somewhere. Who is paying for it?
     
    Hmm... You don't believe people are capable of advocating all kinds of nonsense of their own free will and at their own expense? In that case, who is financing you?
  41. @John Gruskos
    If the nations of Europe enacted a moratorium on all future immigration from the Middle East, deported all illegal immigrants, cracked down hard on radical Sunni terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda and ISIS, ended affirmative action and welfare for immigrants, and ended "no go zone" policing, I suspect many Muslim legal immigrants would choose to self deport.

    Thanks for your laundry list of virtual impossibilities.

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  42. @Diversity Heretic
    I like Muslims just fine in Muslim countries. You may find the scenes of mosques and Orthodox churches in the same photograph beautiful but they disgust me. I'm certain that many people in Spain during the 700 year Reconquista moaned that "the Muslims are here to stay, we can never expel them, Islam is now a part of Spain." But in 1492 the Spaniards sent them packing.

    Robert Fico of Slovakia has said correctly that there is no place for Islam in the West. There may be minor exceptions in the Balkans and I'm content to let the Russians figure out what to do with their Central Asian Republics. But the policy towards Muslims in the West ought to be either expulsion (both citizenship and legal residency can be revoked) or partition into Muslim and non-Muslim areas. Expulsion impossible, you say? The Poles expelled millions of ethnic Germans from historically German areas like Pomerania, Silesia, East and West Prussia in a couple of years after WWII. Didn't even say please; just did it. There's no reason that the same can't be done to Muslims. Where shall we send them? Well, there are lots of Muslim countries, and many of them are very wealthy and some have nice climates. Why wouldn't they welcome their wonderful Muslim brothers and sisters with open arms? (Well, maybe they know them better than we do!)

    The more likely solution is partition of specific European countries, beginning probably with France. The territorial real estate solution will be agonizing but Yugoslavia broke up and the sun came up the next day in Belgrade.

    The most likely solution is that Western Europe descends into a caramel colored undifferentiated consumerist mass governed by an elite. The elite's wealth and political clout will largely insulate it from the consequences, but the historic European populations will be periodically terrorized by unassimilable, predominantly Muslim Arabs, Africans and Turks, and relentlessly persecuted if they try and hit back.

    Permitting large scale Muslim immigration into Western Europe has been one of the worst public policy decisions of all time. The great-grandchildren of the people who permitted it will be fully justified in digging up the bones of their ancestors and hanging them in chains.

    “I like Muslims just fine in Muslim countries.”

    And I enjoy people who embrace my values in my nation, whether it be white or non-white, Christian or non-Christian.

    “Robert Fico of Slovakia has said correctly that there is no place for Islam in the West.”

    The major religions have a place “in the West”. He is sadly mistaken.

    “But the policy towards Muslims in the West ought to be either expulsion (both citizenship and legal residency can be revoked)…”

    Only by force. Are you willing to fight?

    “or partition into Muslim and non-Muslim areas.”

    Only by force. Are you willing to fight?

    “Expulsion impossible, you say? The Poles expelled millions of ethnic Germans from historically German areas like Pomerania, Silesia, East and West Prussia in a couple of years after WWII.”

    Different context. The Poles had experienced two World Wars due in large part to German machinations. Of course they would condone this sort of action.

    “Where shall we send them? Well, there are lots of Muslim countries, and many of them are very wealthy and some have nice climates. Why wouldn’t they welcome their wonderful Muslim brothers and sisters with open arms? (Well, maybe they know them better than we do!)”

    Muslims are fine where they are in the West, especially in the United States.

    “The most likely solution is that Western Europe descends into a caramel colored undifferentiated consumerist mass governed by an elite. The elite’s wealth and political clout will largely insulate it from the consequences, but the historic European populations will be periodically terrorized by unassimilable, predominantly Muslim Arabs, Africans and Turks, and relentlessly persecuted if they try and hit back.”

    Again, what are you doing to stop this phenomenon from materializing? How are you going to stop these elites cold in their tracks? Talking is NOT action.

    “The great-grandchildren of the people who permitted it will be fully justified in digging up the bones of their ancestors and hanging them in chains.”

    White people collectively made this decision by way of freedom of association. You know, the liberty of people to decide for themselves who they want to “be around with”.

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    "Only by force. Are you willing to fight?"

    Hey, look! A real live agent provocateur! They really do exist.

    We will elect the right people, and you will stop receiving a paycheck.
    , @Kurt van Ghoye
    Your attempt to call out these shitposters and make them cash their rhetorical cheques in the physical realm has a false ring to it. All metabiological struggles, to riff on the above, have different classes of contender. You rightly pointed out, though mala fide it seems to me, the necessity of physical engagement. Resurgent Europe will have many sneakers on the ground to resist the immivasion in the years to come. Yet it will also have intellectuals working podiums and keyboards, parents reproducing genes and culture and, God willing, a decucked deus vult level priest class burning the corruption out of the European mind(s). I submit that the shitposters and memetic warriors are effective precisely insofar as they provoke the type of dishonest reflex to subvert and discredit their efforts seen above. I don't think they made you tall enough for this ride at Hasbara school. We are right, we are growing, and we are going to take back our nations with as many sneakered shoes and keyboard-callused fingers as it takes. And once we or are heirs are demographically sovereign again, we will turn our attention to the architects and enablers.
  43. The Saker discredits his own arguments in the last several paragraphs in recounting the bloody disputes between Christians and non-Takfiri Muslims in Kazan. Saker posits that non-Takfiri Muslims are wondrous and non-violent but if this is true then why have they periodically clashed violently with the Christians in Kazan?

    The Muslims in Bosnia were some of the most liberal (and fair skinned) on the planet yet they, too, answered the call to jihadism against the Christian Serbs and other kaffirs after they attained a plurality in Bosnia and following the dissolution of the communist police state. I realize the history of the Balkans is complicated and the Serbs weren’t always angels, but neither were the Muslims despite all the propaganda blaming Milosevic and the Serbs for everything.

    So it isn’t as simple as non-Takfiri Muslim = good and Takfiri/Wahabi muzzie = bad. All it takes is Muslims in a sizable enough percentage for conflict to arise. I’ve read a number of stories where Muslims from the U.K. and Europe who joined ISIS hailed from non-takfiri households and some were living respectable lives, yet they chose jihad.

    Putin played Darwin in Chechnya and naturally selected moderate Muslims by killing all the violent Wahabi types. Ramzan Kadyrov is on a very short leash and likely knows it. How would Kadryov react if Putin wanted to settle thousands of Christians in Chechnya?

    A true test would be if Russia descends into political turmoil and is unable to project power over Chechnya. Then we’ll see if Kadyrov is sincere or simply engaging in taqiyya.

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    • Replies: @ThatDamnGood
    Obvious dissimulation.

    And Putin knows it by the way they treat the commissars.

    Perhaps the Israeli strategy of placing Muslims upclose in various liberal societies to give them a first hand taste of the Jihad agenda is the best way to allow for eventual decisive and definite action against Islam globally.
  44. @utu
    It is very simple. He knows what can be potentially fatal to a career in this world. He also explains the world by the hierarchy of IQ's and ethnicity. This is another indication for a very affirmative attitude, with respect to who gives the blow jobs and who receives them. Now he is on a mission to Russia to proselytize the HBD gospel as he wrote somewhere. Who is paying for it? The same people who supported Charle Murray? Anyway, Russians should be very wary about this renegade.

    Now he is on a mission to Russia to proselytize the HBD gospel as he wrote somewhere. Who is paying for it?

    Hmm… You don’t believe people are capable of advocating all kinds of nonsense of their own free will and at their own expense? In that case, who is financing you?

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    • Agree: Logan
    • Replies: @Logan
    A really common notion.

    Lots of people have claimed I must be being paid to promote the ideas I have.

    Sadly, I'm not.
  45. Obvious fact: The West is on the descendant, and Islam is on the ascendant. Today Islam has the energy, vitality, and culturally confident mindset while Christianity and its culture, Western civilization, is weak, defeatist, apologetic and submissive to others. Their respective trajectories will soon cross if the West does not expel Islam from traditionally Western areas.

    See: Biohistory by Jim Penham.

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  46. You don’t believe people are capable of advocating all kinds of nonsense of their own free will and at their own expense?

    I do believe in cases like that, however, don’t you see that it would be rude to allege that AK is just a useful idiot. That’s why I give him my benefit of doubt by thinking he does it for career and money while in case of Charles Murray I have no doubt whatsoever. He does it for money and we know where the money comes from. On the other hand, in cases of you or I it might be safe to assume we are idiots who are not even useful because we are inconsequential.

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  47. @Verymuchalive
    You could say the same about the US. By W European standards the crime rate in America is high.
    Both Russia and America have majority white, European populations which are able to maintain the normal functions of society despite the comparatively high crime rates.
    Where you have high crime rates and low IQ populations, then you see societal collapse, whether it be Venezuela or South Africa.

    Agreed for the most part, but can Russian society really be called “functional?”

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Compared to MANY HUNDREDS of large African neighborhoods in American cities - Detroit, south LA, Cleveland, Cincinnati, DC, Baltimore, Newark and Trenton and Camden NJ, Hartford CT, Atlanta, Memphis, Dallas, and many many many more -- and Muslim Arab/African neighborhoods in Europe, how many russian cities are equally unsafe and hostile "no-go" areas?

    For every alcoholic or drug addict Russian, how many tens of millions of meth and heroin addicts here in the west are destroying their lives, harming or abandoning their families, endangering or robbing other citizens, etc.?

    It's not so clear that Russian society is more dysfunctional than Europe and my USA, sad to say.

  48. @John Gruskos
    Russia was systematically ravaged twice within the past century, first by the Bolsheviks and then by the 1990s oligarchs.

    It will take time for the wounds to heal.

    This is exactly like saying colonialism is responsible for Africa’s shithole status.

    EUROPEANS ARE NOT EQUAL. Eastern Europe has always been a shithole (on average) in comparison to western Europe. Get over it.

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    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    No, communism made these countries worse off. Example: Hungary was roughly as rich (or poor) as Italy before 1939, but now it's like more than 50% poorer, communism didn't help. Relative to Austria, it was 30% poorer. Now it's over 70% poorer. Communism destroyed the relative positions of all countries affected by it. And it was probably the worst in Russia, both because communism was the worst there (in Europe), and because it was the longest.
    , @Corvinus
    This is exactly like saying colonialism is responsible for Africa’s shithole status."

    Colonialism and imperialism is largely responsible.

    "EUROPEANS ARE NOT EQUAL. Eastern Europe has always been a shithole (on average) in comparison to western Europe. Get over it."

    Europeans are white. All white people are equal. Don't you pay attention to the Alt Right?

    "And don’t give me the old “they’re white, they assimilated” bullshit. Assimilation does not happen. EVER."

    By your own metric, the English, Scottish, and Dutch are not descendants of the Founding Fathers, "our posterity" be damned.
  49. @rw95
    This is exactly like saying colonialism is responsible for Africa's shithole status.

    EUROPEANS ARE NOT EQUAL. Eastern Europe has always been a shithole (on average) in comparison to western Europe. Get over it.

    No, communism made these countries worse off. Example: Hungary was roughly as rich (or poor) as Italy before 1939, but now it’s like more than 50% poorer, communism didn’t help. Relative to Austria, it was 30% poorer. Now it’s over 70% poorer. Communism destroyed the relative positions of all countries affected by it. And it was probably the worst in Russia, both because communism was the worst there (in Europe), and because it was the longest.

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    • Replies: @Mao Cheng Ji

    No, communism made these countries worse off. Example: Hungary was roughly as rich (or poor) as Italy before 1939, but now it’s like more than 50% poorer, communism didn’t help.
     
    Hmm... But 'now' is nearly 30 years after the end of 'goulash-socialism' in Hungary. Almost 30 years of western neoliberal looting of the Hungarian economy. No wonder.

    Also, dollar-denominated 'country wealth' doesn't necessarily indicate whether most people are better-off or worth-off. The Hungarian people know perfectly well that they lived better under the communist government:


    A remarkable 72% of Hungarians say that most people in their country are actually worse off today economically than they were under communism. Only 8% say most people in Hungary are better off, and 16% say things are about the same.
     
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2010/04/28/hungary-better-off-under-communism/

    And it's similar in Romania, where Ceausescu now has ~50% popularity, and pretty much everywhere else.

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    There’s this idea that westerners have that Islam can be managed by them, that it can be defanged and declawed. This is an illusion. Multicultural tolerance is a western idea, not an Islamic one. The photos of the mosque alongside churches are a snapshot in time that only reflects the balance at that moment. As soon as Muslims gain the upper hand that picture will change drastically. For every mosque erected in a Christian country a church must be built in a Muslim one or else no deal. It’s all a one way street, totally unequal. They take and we give.
    Everything is always impossible until it happens. After centuries of living under the thumb of Islam the people of Spain and the Balkans were able to liberate themselves from that slaving rubbish and expelled them. Ideally it’d be best to do so while still in a position of strength but unfortunately people won’t learn until they’re literally fighting for their lives.

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    YOU NAILED IT. Wake up, west, and fight while you can still readily win a safe, civilized future for your offspring on your current territory.
  51. @rw95
    This is exactly like saying colonialism is responsible for Africa's shithole status.

    EUROPEANS ARE NOT EQUAL. Eastern Europe has always been a shithole (on average) in comparison to western Europe. Get over it.

    This is exactly like saying colonialism is responsible for Africa’s shithole status.”

    Colonialism and imperialism is largely responsible.

    “EUROPEANS ARE NOT EQUAL. Eastern Europe has always been a shithole (on average) in comparison to western Europe. Get over it.”

    Europeans are white. All white people are equal. Don’t you pay attention to the Alt Right?

    “And don’t give me the old “they’re white, they assimilated” bullshit. Assimilation does not happen. EVER.”

    By your own metric, the English, Scottish, and Dutch are not descendants of the Founding Fathers, “our posterity” be damned.

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    • Replies: @rw95
    "Europeans are white. All white people are equal. Don’t you pay attention to the Alt Right?"

    Ah, yes. That lovely consistency of the alt-right.

    "We reject equality and egalitarianism between races. Races are not equal."

    "All whites are equal (even though there are very clear differences between European populations). White is white and white is right."
    , @reiner Tor

    Europeans are white. All white people are equal. Don’t you pay attention to the Alt Right?
     
    I guess there could be alt-right authors who say so, but I seriously doubt it's a majority position among the alt-right. Everybody understands that there are significant biological differences among European ethnic groups. Why wouldn't there be? You can even spot them by just looking at them, can you tell the difference between a Greek and a Swede?
  52. @Priss Factor
    There is nothing to study in biology, the most people need to know, with the exception of those who go professionally in that field, is that we prefer “our own”.

    History is story of human biology.

    Military history is study of human biological aggression.

    Economics is story of human biological drive for territory and property.

    Literature is human biological use of signs and words as weapons.

    It's all biology.

    At their root, all of human behavior are analogous to what happens among germs, animals, and plants.

    No animal or plant has property or words, so how humans use them cannot be biological.

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    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    Don't be a dammy.

    Words are processed through the brains, an biological organ. So, words are just as biological as bees's way of communicating by shaking their fuzzy-buzzy butts. Anything humans do is biological since it is processed through biological organs.

    If words and property have autonomy apart from biology, can they exist without humans? No more than bird songs can exist without birds or bees hive can exist without bees or an ant colony can exist without ants.

    Words are just a biological means of communication and control and influence and deception and etc.
  53. @5371
    No animal or plant has property or words, so how humans use them cannot be biological.

    Don’t be a dammy.

    Words are processed through the brains, an biological organ. So, words are just as biological as bees’s way of communicating by shaking their fuzzy-buzzy butts. Anything humans do is biological since it is processed through biological organs.

    If words and property have autonomy apart from biology, can they exist without humans? No more than bird songs can exist without birds or bees hive can exist without bees or an ant colony can exist without ants.

    Words are just a biological means of communication and control and influence and deception and etc.

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  54. @Cyrano
    Living with Islam is like living with cancer. You might – as the author of this article suggests – accept this as irreversible situation and peacefully succumb to it, or you might try few things. It won’t be easy, but there are people who have beaten cancer, so it can be done. The other possibility is to surrender. Those are the choices. Peaceful coexistence sounds very good on paper, but you can’t peacefully coexist with a deadly disease.

    I believe that cancer can be successfully treated by radiation, chemicals, or surgical excision. All that’s needed is a doctor to prescribe the treatment.

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  55. @Corvinus
    "I like Muslims just fine in Muslim countries."

    And I enjoy people who embrace my values in my nation, whether it be white or non-white, Christian or non-Christian.

    "Robert Fico of Slovakia has said correctly that there is no place for Islam in the West."

    The major religions have a place "in the West". He is sadly mistaken.

    "But the policy towards Muslims in the West ought to be either expulsion (both citizenship and legal residency can be revoked)..."

    Only by force. Are you willing to fight?

    "or partition into Muslim and non-Muslim areas."

    Only by force. Are you willing to fight?

    "Expulsion impossible, you say? The Poles expelled millions of ethnic Germans from historically German areas like Pomerania, Silesia, East and West Prussia in a couple of years after WWII."

    Different context. The Poles had experienced two World Wars due in large part to German machinations. Of course they would condone this sort of action.

    "Where shall we send them? Well, there are lots of Muslim countries, and many of them are very wealthy and some have nice climates. Why wouldn’t they welcome their wonderful Muslim brothers and sisters with open arms? (Well, maybe they know them better than we do!)"

    Muslims are fine where they are in the West, especially in the United States.

    "The most likely solution is that Western Europe descends into a caramel colored undifferentiated consumerist mass governed by an elite. The elite’s wealth and political clout will largely insulate it from the consequences, but the historic European populations will be periodically terrorized by unassimilable, predominantly Muslim Arabs, Africans and Turks, and relentlessly persecuted if they try and hit back."

    Again, what are you doing to stop this phenomenon from materializing? How are you going to stop these elites cold in their tracks? Talking is NOT action.

    "The great-grandchildren of the people who permitted it will be fully justified in digging up the bones of their ancestors and hanging them in chains."

    White people collectively made this decision by way of freedom of association. You know, the liberty of people to decide for themselves who they want to "be around with".

    “Only by force. Are you willing to fight?”

    Hey, look! A real live agent provocateur! They really do exist.

    We will elect the right people, and you will stop receiving a paycheck.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Hey, look! A real live agent provocateur! They really do exist."

    Hard righties here seem to lament about the machinations of the Jews, or the elites, or the Beltway boys, or whomever boogey is the flavor of the day, state how they are ruining things, and demand that something must be done about it. Yet, it's only words, and rarely actions.

    "We will elect the right people, and you will stop receiving a paycheck."

    Who are these "right" people? And regarding my paycheck, I work for myself. I'm not worried about losing my job and earning no income.
  56. @John Gruskos
    "Only by force. Are you willing to fight?"

    Hey, look! A real live agent provocateur! They really do exist.

    We will elect the right people, and you will stop receiving a paycheck.

    “Hey, look! A real live agent provocateur! They really do exist.”

    Hard righties here seem to lament about the machinations of the Jews, or the elites, or the Beltway boys, or whomever boogey is the flavor of the day, state how they are ruining things, and demand that something must be done about it. Yet, it’s only words, and rarely actions.

    “We will elect the right people, and you will stop receiving a paycheck.”

    Who are these “right” people? And regarding my paycheck, I work for myself. I’m not worried about losing my job and earning no income.

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    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    Do you remember the old joke where the Lone Ranger and Tonto are surrounded by injuns? and then the LR says to Tonto, "We're surrounded! It looks like we're finished." to which Tonto replies, "What do you mean WE?".
    File it away for your future.
    , @RadicalCenter
    If you are in fact not a government agent, do you realistically expect someone here to boast about doing or planning to do something violent or otherwise unlawful against Muslims or sellout politicians or whoever else?

    What would be served by that?

    Could that not lead to the investigation and even arrest of the person posting such comments?

    Awaiting your response.
  57. @Corvinus
    This is exactly like saying colonialism is responsible for Africa’s shithole status."

    Colonialism and imperialism is largely responsible.

    "EUROPEANS ARE NOT EQUAL. Eastern Europe has always been a shithole (on average) in comparison to western Europe. Get over it."

    Europeans are white. All white people are equal. Don't you pay attention to the Alt Right?

    "And don’t give me the old “they’re white, they assimilated” bullshit. Assimilation does not happen. EVER."

    By your own metric, the English, Scottish, and Dutch are not descendants of the Founding Fathers, "our posterity" be damned.

    “Europeans are white. All white people are equal. Don’t you pay attention to the Alt Right?”

    Ah, yes. That lovely consistency of the alt-right.

    “We reject equality and egalitarianism between races. Races are not equal.”

    “All whites are equal (even though there are very clear differences between European populations). White is white and white is right.”

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Ah, yes. That lovely consistency of the alt-right."

    Races are equal before God when receiving salvation.

    Races are equal before the law regarding due process.

    Regarding these "clear differences" between European populations, the majority of white Americans are quite aware of them, but they do not hold to your antiquated notion of a "European ethnic hierarchy".

  58. “The threat has never been Islam. The threat is Takfirism. Here is how Wikipedia defines the concept of “Takfir”: In Islamic law, takfir or takfeer (Arabic: تكفير‎‎ takfīr) refers to the practice of excommunication, one Muslim declaring another Muslim as kafir (non-believer). ”

    Wonderful, more experts on Islam. Almost as credible as the Muslims who proclaim “Peace! Peace!” The destruction of the western institutions is accepted as a premise, as is the permanence of Loyalty to the Prophet.

    Islamic war is obligatory. Those who take the initiative have authority. Those who do not join war must be killed – unless they emigrate in the process of Hijra. Once the west accepts their presence as a fait accompli, there will be nowhere else to go. There is no other option in the end – it is the goal of Islam as such. Such it has been from the time of Mohamed. It has been clearly stated then and it will always be.

    It’s by no means necessary to suppose Muslims are bad. It is merely necessary to acknowledge the reality of the nature of Islamic warfare is only violent in the minority of instances. Unlike the author of this abysmal article, defeatism is not an option within Islam. Their only option is total victory.

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    "Islamic war is obligatory."

    If this is true they haven't fulfilled their obligations too well over the last 1500 years have they?
    I think the only country constantly at war throughout its existence more or less is the USA compared to which muslims are a failure.
    This is a muslim site advising muslims about jihad. Are they fooling each other?


    https://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/1360/is-jihad-obligatory-for-all-muslims
    , @annamaria
    "Islamic war is obligatory."
    Is this an opinion of Israel-firsters? You surely have historical evidence under your sleeve to support the statement.
  59. @Anon
    In France, the Afro-colonization of white wombs is the greatest threat since white women are into junglois feverois and since white males are raised as cuckois.

    The main threat is racial-sexual than religious.

    As Christianity is dead -- with poop as pope and homomaniacal churches -- , there is no spirituality to defend in the west. Indeed, Europeans regard mandela, MLK, and obama more sacred than Jesus.

    This is a race war whites are losing since globalist Jews colonized their minds and Africans are colonizing white wombs, thus aborting the white babies that could have been, Everytime a Negro takes a white woman, he is killing a white child cuz the white womb is producing a black baby in its stead. Imagine if your mother went with a negro.

    You would have been afro-aborted. In your stead, your mother's womb would have produced a negro kid.

    What is the source of your statements about White Frenchwomen and blacks?

    There is none anywhere because White French women don’t associate with blacks.
    You’ve never been to France in your life so you don’t even have anecdotal evidence.

    Get your mind out of the gutter. Your obsession with the sex lives of people 5,000 miles away is just plain pornographic Bet you type these posts with one hand..

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    I've been to France many times, and Britain, and Germany. Many white women do, and not just in France. "Tis thee that doesn't get out much.
    , @Anon
    "What is the source of your statements about White Frenchwomen and blacks?"

    Go on youtube and look at Paris street life. You will lots of white women walking with Negroes.

    Womb colonization is happening on massive scale.

    Also, the State promotes it as the highest good, and white men worship Negroes and act cucky.

    And pop culture and advertising promote womb colonization of white wombs by Negroes.
    , @Anon
    It is obvious that blacks are big trouble, but whites men are too admiring of black athletes, and white women got too much junglois feverois. Also, they've been colonized by PC virus that says white nations for whites and white wombs for whites are evil concepts.

    Europe went from a homeland to a hostel.

    https://twitter.com/BasedMonitored/status/860908232382046209
  60. How would Kadryov react if Putin wanted to settle thousands of Christians in Chechnya?

    It’s doubtful you could find a thousand Christians to go, but if they did they would have a new church to attend..

    http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/92852.htm

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    "How would Kadryov react if Putin wanted to settle thousands of Christians in Chechnya?"
    Why? Please take a look at Russian geography and the data on the density of population in Russian Federation.
  61. There is everything in the written tenets of mohammedanism to prove that “moderate” mohammedans are apostates. The author proffers some absurd hope that getting rid of the concept of Takfiris will somehow produce a sane mohammedanism, but that is itself a simplistic and therefore unrealistic attempt at a solution. In fact it cannot be deleted without also deleting major portions of the koran, hadith, and sura which support it. Meanwhile there is dawa to fool the unbelievers into complacency for their more “peaceful” takeover by mohammedans.

    A non-violent mohammedanism would simply be another version of Judaism, and will therefore never happen. The only thing now keeping mohammedans in check in his examples is sheer unadulterated power of implacable non-mohammedans.

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  62. @utu
    These conspiracy theories are simply demented.

    They will seem demented to any honest and straightforward mind. You just can't imagine or accept the level of evil and perfidy of those who perpetrate false flags and and who are able to create patsies out of innocent people. Perhaps by being German you are more handicapped than others in this department. Germans invented the 2nd Categorical Imperative and they internalized it pretty well, so operating on levels where you treat other human purely instrumentally with utmost perfidy Germans are simply lacking necessary talents. Germans never had much talents in this department. Look at the Reichstag fire trial. They were unable to secure the conviction for all accused. Can you imagine a trial like that in Moscow in 1930s? Or in post 9/11 America? Everybody would be convicted. Look at Herschel Grynszpan. They could not engineer a show trial after they got him and then they kept him not knowing what to do (and probably he survived). Do you think Brits, Soviets or Israeli would miss such a propaganda opportunity? Look at Gleiwitz incident. Did it even happen as we were told it happened during Nuremberg trials? When you do a false flag you suppose to write about it in newspapers, right? That is the whole point of the false flags, right? But apparently nobody heard about Gleiwitz until the end of war when Americans procured a testimony of the alleged perpetrators. So I might be not that surprised why you seem to be that dense in this department. Anyway, Saker is right: There might be some organic genuine terror attacks by some fools but most of what we see in recent years in Europe comes from operations like Gladio. The Polish truck in Berlin was a Gladio operation too. Looks like German security services are learning from the masters. Still they messed up with a passport because some good citizen and not crooks cop apprehended somebody who was not meant to be a patsy. They ha dot go to plan B and they planted a passport few days later and from a dead guy in Italy.

    Why would German security forces want to ram a truck into a Christmas market and kill and injure so many.
    I’m interested in why they did it. Or was it the Israelis? Neo Nazis?

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    Did not make sept 11 make it abundantly clear that western nations need pretexts for waging wars and introducing a totalitarian society ?
    The Patriot Act was already lying ready on sept 11.
    , @utu
    Why would German security forces want to ram a truck into a Christmas market and kill and injure so many. I’m interested in why they did it. Or was it the Israelis? Neo Nazis?

    How "Gladio" cells are linked to German security forces we do not know. Who is really calling the shots? I think that it does not happen on the low level of local German police. Local police always will pose a threat to the conspiracy. That's why the events often happen during drills when you can put on ground operatives who are not local. In the case of Dec. 20, 2016 Berlin event it seems that it was the local police that screwed up the plan. That's why the first suspect (a live suspect was taken - big no no) had to be released and a wallet had to be found after 2 days pointing to another suspect who soon turned out dead in Italy. Somebody has to clean up and cover up what gets sometimes uncovered. Why during Charlie Hebdo investigation chief of French police commits suicide? Why there were serious tensions between the local police from Nice and central police from Paris after truck attack there? Is there a liaison officer somewhere high up who coordinates it with the external "Gladio" cells? To what extent they are foreign like Mossad? Certainly Mossad have more experience in false flagging than any other security service. Can they do things on their own in a foreign country and be sure that the security services will cover it up if any of them get caught or something goes wrong? From time to time Mossad operatives get arrested in Israel friendly countries but it rarely gets covered by media. Is it because they are sacred cows, meaning that some countries have no true sovereignty when it comes to Mossad operations or there is something more to it? Like nuclear blackmail or something?

    I cannot answer why this Berlin event was carried out. Some events have a direct purpose like diverting attention. Wasn't it the Dallas police killings (or was it some other event) that took away Hillary's Libya or Pay-for-Play stuff out of media? I am sure somewhere there is a phone number that for a right price one can arrange a terrorist synthetic event in any place in the world on a very short notice. Some people thought that in case of Berlin an important clue was that the truck and its driver were Polish. At that time there was a mini color revolution going on in Poland (that was supported by Germany) that however eventually fizzled out after Christmas. Who knows. But some attacks are there to just create a tension that always helps the Deep State in pushing more authoritarian laws. Some attacks are there to punish the state. Like for example Breivik? Some attacks are to saw discord like for example assassination of Russia's ambassador in Turkey? Some attacks are to destabilize like airport bombing in Turkey prior to the attempted coup?
  63. @Timothy Zak
    "The threat has never been Islam. The threat is Takfirism. Here is how Wikipedia defines the concept of “Takfir”: In Islamic law, takfir or takfeer (Arabic: تكفير‎‎ takfīr) refers to the practice of excommunication, one Muslim declaring another Muslim as kafir (non-believer). "

    Wonderful, more experts on Islam. Almost as credible as the Muslims who proclaim "Peace! Peace!" The destruction of the western institutions is accepted as a premise, as is the permanence of Loyalty to the Prophet.

    Islamic war is obligatory. Those who take the initiative have authority. Those who do not join war must be killed - unless they emigrate in the process of Hijra. Once the west accepts their presence as a fait accompli, there will be nowhere else to go. There is no other option in the end - it is the goal of Islam as such. Such it has been from the time of Mohamed. It has been clearly stated then and it will always be.

    It's by no means necessary to suppose Muslims are bad. It is merely necessary to acknowledge the reality of the nature of Islamic warfare is only violent in the minority of instances. Unlike the author of this abysmal article, defeatism is not an option within Islam. Their only option is total victory.

    “Islamic war is obligatory.”

    If this is true they haven’t fulfilled their obligations too well over the last 1500 years have they?
    I think the only country constantly at war throughout its existence more or less is the USA compared to which muslims are a failure.
    This is a muslim site advising muslims about jihad. Are they fooling each other?

    https://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/1360/is-jihad-obligatory-for-all-muslims

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    You are remarkably ignorant of mohammedan history over the last 1400 years. But then that is to be expected for a blame-America-first mindset. Mohammedanism started out in two small towns in Arabia, then took over all of the Mideast by force of arms. Those areas were predominantly Christian, as proven by archeology and the Bible. Much of Europe was also overrun, but decisive battles in 732, 1571, 1683 and then 700 years of Spanish resistance drove out mohammedans from Europe. Then shall we discuss the horrors mohammedans visited upon India? And what about Indonesia, Malaysia, the 'stans, south Thailand, Mindanao, etc. etc? What this all means is that whenever mohammedans believe they are the strong horse, they will attack, again and again, either to gain new territory or to regain what they have lost. When they feel they are the weak horse they will lie low, but overall they do not ever stop Dar al Harb (better look that up, since you are also ignorant about the actual tenets of mohammedanism).

    But of course to a leftist such as yourself true history is anathema, since leftists are heavily brainwashed by revisionist history when they attend Leftist Propaganda University. Full of deceit, the leftist invariably proclaims: “Who're you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?” Only a leftist could disingenuously claim that mohammedanism jihad hasn't fulfilled it's obligations, and then wrap up with the stale meme of moral equivalence.

    Good luck with all that, chuck-0.

    , @Timothy Zak
    Yes, Muslism lie, mislead dissimulate and underplay the role conquest plays in that religion. The exemplar for the life of all Muslims for all time is Mohammed. You think Muslim Countries are overwhelmingly Islamic because of the beauty of the religion? Appallingly naive. Not only is he the paragon of virtue, the example of his life is that which is to be imitated.

    The "Koranic Concept of War" as Brigadier General Malik makes clear, is far different from what you appear to believe. Jihad does not end. It is a constant struggle. As for the question of whether it is obligatory to join in violent struggle, 4:89 makes it quite clear. Those who do not join must be shunned, killed where they are found, except in the condition that they emigrate in the cause.

    More than naifs about doctrines, history and eschatology, westerners have appallingly limited concepts about biology. This I attribute to the inexcusably widespread ignorance of darwinian principles. People live their lives as though the extent of life is delineated by the span of their own existence. They seem blissfully unaware of that the incremental effects of differential reproduction are revolutionary in the long process of time. This short sighted confidence in tactical reassurances is emblematic, in my view, of the profound myopia that is our fatal affliction.
  64. I agree that we shouldn’t demonize Muslims, nor should we intervene in their lands, but neither should we allow them to become a majority or even a plurality in our own countries. Polls show that the majority of Muslims in most Islamic nations favor sharia law. America, the EU, and Russia all need the same thing — a permanent ban on Islamic immigration, as well as strict laws against foreign sponsorship or subsidies to any mosque or religious schools.

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  65. @utu
    These conspiracy theories are simply demented.

    They will seem demented to any honest and straightforward mind. You just can't imagine or accept the level of evil and perfidy of those who perpetrate false flags and and who are able to create patsies out of innocent people. Perhaps by being German you are more handicapped than others in this department. Germans invented the 2nd Categorical Imperative and they internalized it pretty well, so operating on levels where you treat other human purely instrumentally with utmost perfidy Germans are simply lacking necessary talents. Germans never had much talents in this department. Look at the Reichstag fire trial. They were unable to secure the conviction for all accused. Can you imagine a trial like that in Moscow in 1930s? Or in post 9/11 America? Everybody would be convicted. Look at Herschel Grynszpan. They could not engineer a show trial after they got him and then they kept him not knowing what to do (and probably he survived). Do you think Brits, Soviets or Israeli would miss such a propaganda opportunity? Look at Gleiwitz incident. Did it even happen as we were told it happened during Nuremberg trials? When you do a false flag you suppose to write about it in newspapers, right? That is the whole point of the false flags, right? But apparently nobody heard about Gleiwitz until the end of war when Americans procured a testimony of the alleged perpetrators. So I might be not that surprised why you seem to be that dense in this department. Anyway, Saker is right: There might be some organic genuine terror attacks by some fools but most of what we see in recent years in Europe comes from operations like Gladio. The Polish truck in Berlin was a Gladio operation too. Looks like German security services are learning from the masters. Still they messed up with a passport because some good citizen and not crooks cop apprehended somebody who was not meant to be a patsy. They ha dot go to plan B and they planted a passport few days later and from a dead guy in Italy.
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  66. @SteveRogers42
    I believe that cancer can be successfully treated by radiation, chemicals, or surgical excision. All that's needed is a doctor to prescribe the treatment.

    Necessity is the mother of invention.

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  67. @Cyrano
    Living with Islam is like living with cancer. You might – as the author of this article suggests – accept this as irreversible situation and peacefully succumb to it, or you might try few things. It won’t be easy, but there are people who have beaten cancer, so it can be done. The other possibility is to surrender. Those are the choices. Peaceful coexistence sounds very good on paper, but you can’t peacefully coexist with a deadly disease.

    not mentioned:

    Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while Jews demands massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.

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  68. @reiner Tor
    No, communism made these countries worse off. Example: Hungary was roughly as rich (or poor) as Italy before 1939, but now it's like more than 50% poorer, communism didn't help. Relative to Austria, it was 30% poorer. Now it's over 70% poorer. Communism destroyed the relative positions of all countries affected by it. And it was probably the worst in Russia, both because communism was the worst there (in Europe), and because it was the longest.

    No, communism made these countries worse off. Example: Hungary was roughly as rich (or poor) as Italy before 1939, but now it’s like more than 50% poorer, communism didn’t help.

    Hmm… But ‘now’ is nearly 30 years after the end of ‘goulash-socialism’ in Hungary. Almost 30 years of western neoliberal looting of the Hungarian economy. No wonder.

    Also, dollar-denominated ‘country wealth’ doesn’t necessarily indicate whether most people are better-off or worth-off. The Hungarian people know perfectly well that they lived better under the communist government:

    A remarkable 72% of Hungarians say that most people in their country are actually worse off today economically than they were under communism. Only 8% say most people in Hungary are better off, and 16% say things are about the same.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2010/04/28/hungary-better-off-under-communism/

    And it’s similar in Romania, where Ceausescu now has ~50% popularity, and pretty much everywhere else.

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    Same in the former DDR.
    , @reiner Tor
    Hungarians in the 1980s were also aware how incredibly better Austrians lived that time. I remember having been to Austria in 1988. We rented a room in a house of a pensioner couple in a village close to Salzburg, and we were astonished, as if everyone was a millionaire. The pensioner couple certainly seemed as if they had been.

    Living standards under communism are difficult to compare to living standards under capitalism. For example the air in the cities was incredibly polluted, which has mostly been cleared up. The many East German Trabant and Wartburg cars and the many polluting plants and factories contributed to that enormously. The quality of the goods was also usually bad, but some basic foodstuffs (bread, milk, etc.) were subsidized and their quantity was large and quality satisfactory (though there was basically no variety at all, for example I remember in the early 1990s wanting to eat cheese abroad, and not understanding when they asked "what kind of cheese?", I thought all the "special" cheese types were specialties which had to be named, and that Trappist cheese was the generic "cheese". It's still probably the most popular cheese type due to inertia: under communism, it was the most common cheese type, with only very few other types being available at all. (I remember as a child I thought the only other two cheese types were Pálpusztai, a Hungarian cheese, and Emmental - these were the ones we could buy. There was also a third type similar to Camembert, which my father ate often, but I didn't really consider it "real" cheese because it was so different from the other types of cheese then available, though I didn't eat Pálpusztai at all, and it was also a soft cheese.)

    Probably if we'd have kept capitalism all along, we'd be better off now. I'm sure that the transition to capitalism was also costly and incompetently done, but could it have been done much better?
    , @jilles dykstra
    The same in the fomer DDR.
    There hardly anybody was rich, excluding Honecker, but also nobody was poor.
    , @Eric the Red
    Nowhere in that article is there any reference to actual economic statistics, which would prove that most countries that were behind the Iron Curtain have benefited from freedom and are now better off economically and politically.

    The article is also remarkably deficient in noting that expectations in these countries are now compared against the rest of Europe, not against the Communist bloc, which would therefore be a part of the feelings expressed in polling.

    Finally, you make the same logical fallacy that all leftists make, specifically argumentum ad populum, which renders your entire line of argument moot.

    It's remarkable to me to still find an apologist for Marxism. After the abysmal record of communism in every country it's been tried, along with the horrific body count, anyone who still prattles about giving communism a try should be stripped of citizenship, expelled from whatever Western country in which they are living, and drop-parachuted into North Korea.

  69. [First, let’s agree with Otto von Bismark’s (sic) wise words that “politics is the art of the possible“. Those Europeans who think that they will simply expel all Muslims from Europe or somehow manage to eliminate Islam from Europe are deluded.]

    There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

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  70. Luther, by rationalising religion, is seen as the beginning of the end of religion, irrational beliefs.
    Liberating ourselves in the Netherlands from oppressive religions in fact just got into its final stage around 1960.

    Today in the Netherlands Islam is the biggest religion.
    There still are some christian fundamentalists, but their influence is hardly anything.
    Just in discussions on euthanasia and abortion they still are a nuisance.

    How long it will take us to get rid of a new nuisance, Islam, is difficult to predict.
    Young Muslims hardly seem to go to a mosque, on the other hand, fed by western warfare and terrorism against Muslims, plus cultural conflicts, the number of radical Muslims seems to increase.

    I do think it will take at least a hundred years to get rid of another oppressive religion, more exactly, oppressive religious leaders.

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    Look up Oswald Spender's notion of "the second religiosity". It's coming. Invasive Islam is the crucible that will revive the Church Militant. Those Calvinists you love to loathe are the only thing standing between your people and its doom. And as a comment on an iSteve post recently said, you are nothing without your people.
  71. @Alden
    Why would German security forces want to ram a truck into a Christmas market and kill and injure so many.
    I'm interested in why they did it. Or was it the Israelis? Neo Nazis?

    Did not make sept 11 make it abundantly clear that western nations need pretexts for waging wars and introducing a totalitarian society ?
    The Patriot Act was already lying ready on sept 11.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    "...western nations need pretexts for waging wars and introducing a totalitarian society..." Unfortunately true.
  72. @Mao Cheng Ji

    No, communism made these countries worse off. Example: Hungary was roughly as rich (or poor) as Italy before 1939, but now it’s like more than 50% poorer, communism didn’t help.
     
    Hmm... But 'now' is nearly 30 years after the end of 'goulash-socialism' in Hungary. Almost 30 years of western neoliberal looting of the Hungarian economy. No wonder.

    Also, dollar-denominated 'country wealth' doesn't necessarily indicate whether most people are better-off or worth-off. The Hungarian people know perfectly well that they lived better under the communist government:


    A remarkable 72% of Hungarians say that most people in their country are actually worse off today economically than they were under communism. Only 8% say most people in Hungary are better off, and 16% say things are about the same.
     
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2010/04/28/hungary-better-off-under-communism/

    And it's similar in Romania, where Ceausescu now has ~50% popularity, and pretty much everywhere else.

    Same in the former DDR.

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  73. Brilliant Saker. If we just follow your advice then Europe could be almost as lovely as Chechnya. Wonderful!

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  74. @Corvinus
    This is exactly like saying colonialism is responsible for Africa’s shithole status."

    Colonialism and imperialism is largely responsible.

    "EUROPEANS ARE NOT EQUAL. Eastern Europe has always been a shithole (on average) in comparison to western Europe. Get over it."

    Europeans are white. All white people are equal. Don't you pay attention to the Alt Right?

    "And don’t give me the old “they’re white, they assimilated” bullshit. Assimilation does not happen. EVER."

    By your own metric, the English, Scottish, and Dutch are not descendants of the Founding Fathers, "our posterity" be damned.

    Europeans are white. All white people are equal. Don’t you pay attention to the Alt Right?

    I guess there could be alt-right authors who say so, but I seriously doubt it’s a majority position among the alt-right. Everybody understands that there are significant biological differences among European ethnic groups. Why wouldn’t there be? You can even spot them by just looking at them, can you tell the difference between a Greek and a Swede?

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    "Everybody understands that there are significant biological differences among European ethnic groups. Why wouldn’t there be? You can even spot them by just looking at them, can you tell the difference between a Greek and a Swede?"

    Indeed, the majority of white Americans are quite aware of them, but they do not hold to your antiquated notion of a "European ethnic hierarchy".
  75. @woodNfish
    "Tensions between Muslims and non-Muslims ... and not only due to some more or less racist..."

    Oh here we go with the racist crap again. Racism is a phony Western concept that tries to make the natural human desire to be with your own kind into a bad thing. It isn't, and "muslim" is not a race. There is no reasonable argument that can be made that Europeans or anyone else has to accept foreigners into their countries and communities. The solution to this problem is to kill the globalist traitors trying to force this on us. Nothing else is going to stop it.

    Racism is a phony Western concept that tries to make the natural human desire to be with your own kind into a bad thing.

    Defining one’s “own kind” is also a a very human thing. Humans have always found kindred spirits across racial and ethnic boundaries.

    Racism is the historical phenomenon of creation of racial hierarchies in multi-racial societies. Most societies since the dawn of civilization have been perfectly fine with (some) diversity. Racism (indeed, a Western concept, as you point out) was the outgrowth of pseudo-scientific theories about races being strictly inferior or superior to each other, and the desire of the more powerful race (white people in this case) to not be “polluted” by their so-called inferiors.

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    Racism is the historical phenomenon of creation of racial hierarchies in multi-racial societies.
     
    If that is true, how do you explain Japanese racism ? Japan is a very homogeneous society, and they if they allow any immigration, it is very little. Smart folks those Japanese.

    Racism (indeed, a Western concept, as you point out) was the outgrowth of pseudo-scientific theories about races being strictly inferior or superior to each other, and the desire of the more powerful race (white people in this case) to not be “polluted” by their so-called inferiors.
     
    Again I refer you to the Japanese as an example. They think every other race is inferior to them. It is not a Western concept. What is a Western concept is defining racism as bad. As I wrote, it is simple human desire to be with one's own kind. While there is some tolerance to small numbers of outsiders, tensions grow much larger as larger disparate groups of people are forced together. It is why we have China Towns, Italian neighborhoods like Boston's North End, etc. There is nothing bad about groups of people wanting to be with their own kind, what is bad is government or any other entity trying to force people together when the people have no desire to merge.
  76. @ia
    This author better visit India and see for himself what happens when Muslims move in. LOL. Hell on earth after 1000 years.

    The British dominated (and in some ways, re-made) India from the 18th to the 20th centuries. How do you disentangle the damage they did from the damage the Muslim invaders did?

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    How do you disentangle the damage they did from the damage the Muslim invaders did?
     
    Ask any sane Hindu who they would prefer. Which schools, railroads, courts, buildings, roads, government, etc., they would rather have, Muslim or British?
    , @Seraphim
    Apples and oranges! Muslim domination of India lasted 1000 years. The British a paltry two hundred. The Muslims excelled in massacres of the Hindus and Buddhists destroying their monasteries and burning their schools and libraries, the British built railroads and schools for them. The Muslim started to destroy the ancient Indian civilization, the British made it known to the world.
  77. @Mao Cheng Ji

    No, communism made these countries worse off. Example: Hungary was roughly as rich (or poor) as Italy before 1939, but now it’s like more than 50% poorer, communism didn’t help.
     
    Hmm... But 'now' is nearly 30 years after the end of 'goulash-socialism' in Hungary. Almost 30 years of western neoliberal looting of the Hungarian economy. No wonder.

    Also, dollar-denominated 'country wealth' doesn't necessarily indicate whether most people are better-off or worth-off. The Hungarian people know perfectly well that they lived better under the communist government:


    A remarkable 72% of Hungarians say that most people in their country are actually worse off today economically than they were under communism. Only 8% say most people in Hungary are better off, and 16% say things are about the same.
     
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2010/04/28/hungary-better-off-under-communism/

    And it's similar in Romania, where Ceausescu now has ~50% popularity, and pretty much everywhere else.

    Hungarians in the 1980s were also aware how incredibly better Austrians lived that time. I remember having been to Austria in 1988. We rented a room in a house of a pensioner couple in a village close to Salzburg, and we were astonished, as if everyone was a millionaire. The pensioner couple certainly seemed as if they had been.

    Living standards under communism are difficult to compare to living standards under capitalism. For example the air in the cities was incredibly polluted, which has mostly been cleared up. The many East German Trabant and Wartburg cars and the many polluting plants and factories contributed to that enormously. The quality of the goods was also usually bad, but some basic foodstuffs (bread, milk, etc.) were subsidized and their quantity was large and quality satisfactory (though there was basically no variety at all, for example I remember in the early 1990s wanting to eat cheese abroad, and not understanding when they asked “what kind of cheese?”, I thought all the “special” cheese types were specialties which had to be named, and that Trappist cheese was the generic “cheese”. It’s still probably the most popular cheese type due to inertia: under communism, it was the most common cheese type, with only very few other types being available at all. (I remember as a child I thought the only other two cheese types were Pálpusztai, a Hungarian cheese, and Emmental – these were the ones we could buy. There was also a third type similar to Camembert, which my father ate often, but I didn’t really consider it “real” cheese because it was so different from the other types of cheese then available, though I didn’t eat Pálpusztai at all, and it was also a soft cheese.)

    Probably if we’d have kept capitalism all along, we’d be better off now. I’m sure that the transition to capitalism was also costly and incompetently done, but could it have been done much better?

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    we’d be better off now.
     
    But what would the demographics of Hungary be right now had it not been a part of the Soviet bloc? Like some of the western countries filling up with third worlders? Would the culture have been deformed by having SJW-culture-mind rot imposed upon everybody through the educational system? Who knows but in the long run perhaps things worked out better for self-preservation.
  78. @Mao Cheng Ji

    No, communism made these countries worse off. Example: Hungary was roughly as rich (or poor) as Italy before 1939, but now it’s like more than 50% poorer, communism didn’t help.
     
    Hmm... But 'now' is nearly 30 years after the end of 'goulash-socialism' in Hungary. Almost 30 years of western neoliberal looting of the Hungarian economy. No wonder.

    Also, dollar-denominated 'country wealth' doesn't necessarily indicate whether most people are better-off or worth-off. The Hungarian people know perfectly well that they lived better under the communist government:


    A remarkable 72% of Hungarians say that most people in their country are actually worse off today economically than they were under communism. Only 8% say most people in Hungary are better off, and 16% say things are about the same.
     
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2010/04/28/hungary-better-off-under-communism/

    And it's similar in Romania, where Ceausescu now has ~50% popularity, and pretty much everywhere else.

    The same in the fomer DDR.
    There hardly anybody was rich, excluding Honecker, but also nobody was poor.

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    There hardly anybody was rich, excluding Honecker, but also nobody was poor.
     
    I don't know how rich Honecker was, probably nowhere near even a second-rate American CEO these days.

    Anyway, this is not about being rich. Money/consumption isn't everything. There's also comradery, community spirit, stability, etc. Most importantly: absence of the constant rat-race, endless worrying about the future.

    Try this: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/homesick-for-a-dictatorship-majority-of-eastern-germans-feel-life-better-under-communism-a-634122.html
  79. @m62man
    "Islamic war is obligatory."

    If this is true they haven't fulfilled their obligations too well over the last 1500 years have they?
    I think the only country constantly at war throughout its existence more or less is the USA compared to which muslims are a failure.
    This is a muslim site advising muslims about jihad. Are they fooling each other?


    https://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/1360/is-jihad-obligatory-for-all-muslims

    You are remarkably ignorant of mohammedan history over the last 1400 years. But then that is to be expected for a blame-America-first mindset. Mohammedanism started out in two small towns in Arabia, then took over all of the Mideast by force of arms. Those areas were predominantly Christian, as proven by archeology and the Bible. Much of Europe was also overrun, but decisive battles in 732, 1571, 1683 and then 700 years of Spanish resistance drove out mohammedans from Europe. Then shall we discuss the horrors mohammedans visited upon India? And what about Indonesia, Malaysia, the ‘stans, south Thailand, Mindanao, etc. etc? What this all means is that whenever mohammedans believe they are the strong horse, they will attack, again and again, either to gain new territory or to regain what they have lost. When they feel they are the weak horse they will lie low, but overall they do not ever stop Dar al Harb (better look that up, since you are also ignorant about the actual tenets of mohammedanism).

    But of course to a leftist such as yourself true history is anathema, since leftists are heavily brainwashed by revisionist history when they attend Leftist Propaganda University. Full of deceit, the leftist invariably proclaims: “Who’re you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?” Only a leftist could disingenuously claim that mohammedanism jihad hasn’t fulfilled it’s obligations, and then wrap up with the stale meme of moral equivalence.

    Good luck with all that, chuck-0.

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    "...whenever mohammedans believe they are the strong horse, they will attack, again and again..."
    Exchange the word "mohammedans" with the word "christians" and you get a picture of Christian conquests in the second millennium AD. Exchange the word "mohammedans" with the word "ziocons" and you get the history of the US in the 21st century AD.
    Does Cheney look leftist for you?
    , @jilles dykstra
    I do not read that jews in N Africa and the Iberian peninsula welcomed the Muslims because their christan rulers oppressed them.
    Jewish help explains why the Muslim rule expanded so quickly.
    Shlomo Sand, ‘The Invention of the Jewish People’, London, New York, 2009, 2010 (Tel Aviv, 2008, hebrew)
  80. As a person who has on purpose studied Islam and who knows about the subject a thing or two, I can reassure that nothing that either the Saudis or Wahhabis are doing contradicts Islam. On the contrary, it perfectly imitates the practices and policies conducted by Muhammad himself and by his followers during the first caliphates. You cannot rebuke them from the point of view of Islam. And if you really think, that before the establishment of the Saudi Arabia Islam was somewhat different, like “moderate”, you are either naive or ignorant. The current Islamic regime of Saudi Arabia with its harsh Sharia laws is simply an echo of the earlier policies of practically every Islamic country. What you may be perceiving now in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states as Islamic barbarism and extremism was absolutely normal legal practices just 200 years ago, in the 19th century in places like from Morocco to Kokand. The only reason Islam become moderate is due to the Western colonization which brought secularism and modernity to the Islamic world.

    So I think the only sure way to “fix Islam” is not to embrace it and encourage it but on the contrary push the secular and atheistic agenda toward Muslims. Let Muslims become non-Muslims, at least agnostics. Because if they remain Muslims they will never stop to look at the early times of Islam and try to imitate that. “Islamism” is ingrained into Islam from the beginning.

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    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    The only reason Islam has become fundamental is due to the Western colonization, what began around 1500.
    Richard Fletcher, ‘Moorish Spain’, Berkeley 1992
    Ibn Battúta, 'Travels in Asia and Africa 1325 - 1354', 1929, 1983, London
    Reuben Levy, 'The social structure of Islam', London, New York, 1931, 1932, 1957, 1971
    , @Seraphim
    The naives who gobble the mantra of 'moderate Islam' either never heard or deliberately ignore the fundamental tenet of:

    "Islamic revival (or Tajdid, also Sahwah) (Arabic: التجديد الإسلامي‎‎ aẗ-ẗajdid l-ʾIslāmiyyah, also Arabic: الصحوة الإسلامية‎‎ aṣ-Ṣaḥwah l-ʾIslāmiyyah, "Islamic awakening") refers to a revival of the Islamic religion. Revivals (ẗajdid) have traditionally been a periodic occurrence throughout the Islamic world, led by a "reviver" or mujaddid who arrives at the beginning of every (Islamic) century, according to one hadith. The mujaddid will "fear none but God, and put a stop to (religious) "ignorance", "false innovations" and "a deterioration in following of the Sunnah".
    In Islamic history a well known tradition (hadith) states that "God will send to His community at the head of each century those who will renew its faith for it."The term for the periodic calls to renew Muslims' commitment to the fundamental principles of Islam and the related reconstruction of society in accord with the Qur'an and the Traditions of the Prophet" or Sunnah is tajdid, and the term for a person leading renewal is mujaddid.
    The modern movement of Islamic revival has been compared with earlier efforts of a similar nature: The "oscillat[ion] between periods of strict religious observance and others of devotional laxity" in Islamic history was striking enough for "the Arab historian, Ibn Khaldun to ponder its causes 600 years ago, and speculate that it could be "attributed ... to features of ecology and social organization peculiar to the Middle East," namely the tension between the easy living in the towns and the austere life in the desert...."

    "The call to fundamentalism, centered on the sharia: this call is as old as Islam itself and yet still new because it has never been fulfilled, It is a tendency that is forever setting the reformer, the censor, and tribunal against the corruption of the times and of sovereigns, against foreign influence, political opportunism, moral laxity, and the forgetting of sacred texts."

    The sliding back of 'moderately Muslim' Turkey into Islamism is a case in point.

  81. @Mao Cheng Ji

    No, communism made these countries worse off. Example: Hungary was roughly as rich (or poor) as Italy before 1939, but now it’s like more than 50% poorer, communism didn’t help.
     
    Hmm... But 'now' is nearly 30 years after the end of 'goulash-socialism' in Hungary. Almost 30 years of western neoliberal looting of the Hungarian economy. No wonder.

    Also, dollar-denominated 'country wealth' doesn't necessarily indicate whether most people are better-off or worth-off. The Hungarian people know perfectly well that they lived better under the communist government:


    A remarkable 72% of Hungarians say that most people in their country are actually worse off today economically than they were under communism. Only 8% say most people in Hungary are better off, and 16% say things are about the same.
     
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2010/04/28/hungary-better-off-under-communism/

    And it's similar in Romania, where Ceausescu now has ~50% popularity, and pretty much everywhere else.

    Nowhere in that article is there any reference to actual economic statistics, which would prove that most countries that were behind the Iron Curtain have benefited from freedom and are now better off economically and politically.

    The article is also remarkably deficient in noting that expectations in these countries are now compared against the rest of Europe, not against the Communist bloc, which would therefore be a part of the feelings expressed in polling.

    Finally, you make the same logical fallacy that all leftists make, specifically argumentum ad populum, which renders your entire line of argument moot.

    It’s remarkable to me to still find an apologist for Marxism. After the abysmal record of communism in every country it’s been tried, along with the horrific body count, anyone who still prattles about giving communism a try should be stripped of citizenship, expelled from whatever Western country in which they are living, and drop-parachuted into North Korea.

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    North Korea is a totalitarian regime. Whereas the socialist policies in Norway reflect rather good on democracy. - Or this is also an apologia for communism?
    , @jacques sheete

    It’s remarkable to me to still find an apologist for Marxism.
     
    Or Leninism or Stalinism. Or Churchillism or FDRism, etc...

    I mean, people actually voted for, supported, and still apologize for the likes of Clinton, Bush, Obama, and now, Trump.

    What is it with people like that? Where do folks get their faith?
    , @reiner Tor
    In Hungary meat consumption is substantially lower for example (though it already started to drop in the 1980s after reaching its zenith sometime in the 1970s), I think like 30-40% lower, which is enough for people to notice. The proportion of beef and I think even pork has declined, while poultry has increased: we're now eating chicken instead of beef. But then again, it's difficult to compare, for example some of it might be a belated effect of the "red meat is unhealthy" or "fat is unhealthy" meme, which arrived in Hungary probably in the late 1980s.

    In any event, I think the transition to a market economy was really badly managed, for example I think that pushing for free trade and quick privatization was definitely harmful. I don't think it was easy, and probably impossible to manage it much better, though, our manufacturing base (which was small, but world-class in the early 1940s) became mostly hopelessly obsolete by the 1980s, so it was obvious we'd lose much of it. In any event, relative to most of Western Europe, we are now more backward than we used to be in the late 1930s before the war. I think communism hurt Hungary a lot, and a transition back to some sort of market economy was bound to hurt, too.

    China had it easier, they didn't really have a command economy, because Maoism was so dysfunctional, they didn't really suffer when they changed from Maoism to something else (anything else).
    , @Mao Cheng Ji

    After the abysmal record of communism in every country it’s been tried
     
    Look, how can you say this, replying to my comment with "72% of Hungarians say that most people in their country are actually worse off today economically than they were under communism" - 20 years after the transition into western-style 'liberal democracy' with all its joys?

    I understand the emotional reaction; after all anti-communism has been the foundation of the western creed for almost a century, but come on, we're are not declaring statements of faith here, or at least I ain't. It wouldn't hurt to be a bit more open-minded.
  82. @Diversity Heretic
    I like Muslims just fine in Muslim countries. You may find the scenes of mosques and Orthodox churches in the same photograph beautiful but they disgust me. I'm certain that many people in Spain during the 700 year Reconquista moaned that "the Muslims are here to stay, we can never expel them, Islam is now a part of Spain." But in 1492 the Spaniards sent them packing.

    Robert Fico of Slovakia has said correctly that there is no place for Islam in the West. There may be minor exceptions in the Balkans and I'm content to let the Russians figure out what to do with their Central Asian Republics. But the policy towards Muslims in the West ought to be either expulsion (both citizenship and legal residency can be revoked) or partition into Muslim and non-Muslim areas. Expulsion impossible, you say? The Poles expelled millions of ethnic Germans from historically German areas like Pomerania, Silesia, East and West Prussia in a couple of years after WWII. Didn't even say please; just did it. There's no reason that the same can't be done to Muslims. Where shall we send them? Well, there are lots of Muslim countries, and many of them are very wealthy and some have nice climates. Why wouldn't they welcome their wonderful Muslim brothers and sisters with open arms? (Well, maybe they know them better than we do!)

    The more likely solution is partition of specific European countries, beginning probably with France. The territorial real estate solution will be agonizing but Yugoslavia broke up and the sun came up the next day in Belgrade.

    The most likely solution is that Western Europe descends into a caramel colored undifferentiated consumerist mass governed by an elite. The elite's wealth and political clout will largely insulate it from the consequences, but the historic European populations will be periodically terrorized by unassimilable, predominantly Muslim Arabs, Africans and Turks, and relentlessly persecuted if they try and hit back.

    Permitting large scale Muslim immigration into Western Europe has been one of the worst public policy decisions of all time. The great-grandchildren of the people who permitted it will be fully justified in digging up the bones of their ancestors and hanging them in chains.

    You may find the scenes of mosques and Orthodox churches in the same photograph beautiful but they disgust me.

    Note that for nearly 450 years, from 1552 right up to 1990s, there were never a mosque in the Kazan Kremlin, which was, by the way, actually built by Russians, only Orthodox churches. The current mosque was built in the 1990s, and this anti-historical construction has only become possible because for the 25 years Tatarstan has been run by Tatar nationalists, who are always eager and successful at rewriting history.

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  83. I lived in Uzbekistan for 20 years and it was pretty clear that we and them did not mix that well even then. Were I to tell you from my friends tales as to what those nice Muslims were doing to Russians and non Muslims in general when in majority in Soviet usually engineering/ stroibat units you would lose appetite.
    There were very few Uzbeks that I knew that were Russified.
    At school there were special A classes for them and they were behind in everything compared to mixed classes. In University as I studied among them few of them excelled though there were few exceptions. I notice the pattern is there across all of Muslim countries. I have no idea what part of their bodies those people use when considering and implementing immigration of this low quality impossible to absorb human material into developed countries.
    The main issue behind all this immigration policies is of course inability of developed countries to assure mere replacement levels of birth rates. This is imho the main reason behind the crisis. The problem that elites find it easier to bring in immigrants instead of developing conditions for core population birth rates increase.
    This is also Russia problem. This is grave threat which require action on the highest level and developing of coherent policies even immigration one if necessary which for the time being to meliorate the issue before local birth rates kicks in should bring immigrants only of same race and similar cultural background.
    I have no clue who decided to turn white Canada into some kind of Monkey Zoo. When I am driving along and can barely see European faces among pedestrians.

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    I have no idea what part of their bodies those people use when considering and implementing immigration of this low quality impossible to absorb human material into developed countries... I have no clue who decided to turn white Canada into some kind of Monkey Zoo. When I am driving along and can barely see European faces among pedestrians.
     
    Very interesting.

    Note that Sergey Krieger wrote this about me in Israel Shamir's thread:

    I notice you are very much concerned with ethnic purity. I guess such people as Alexander Vasiliievich Souvorov, Pushkin, Lermontov, Bagration, Blok and many other would not make it to your list.
     
    While essentially repeating my racist--nazifascist-1488 arguments in anecdotal form here.

    Conclusions:

    (1) Nationalism is correct.

    (2) Even Communists know it, but are too schizophrenic to acknowledge it. :)
  84. @Anatoly Karlin

    So even if the current generation is poorly educated and not integrated in the European society, the next one will. I have seen that with many other economic migrants such as Italians or Albanians.
     
    Didn't happen with the first generation, nor with the second, but surely the next generation of 85 IQ inbreds will finally be the one to converge to European standards. Third time's the charm!

    But I am pretty sure that most of them were Gladio-style false flags executed by EU or US special services.
     
    I for one am pretty sure most of them were Illuminati-style false flags executed by biomechanically augmented cyborgs.

    As for Chechnia, Putin has made Ramzan Kadyrov something of a “political son” and has given the Chechens extremely wide autonomy, especially in matters of religion.
     
    Don't forget the minor matter of gibsmedats equivalent to 85% of their local budget.

    The point here is that after centuries of warfare both Muslims and Orthodox Christians have learned how to coexist in peace and even create something truly beautiful, like this Kremlin, together.
     
    Volga Tatars have an average IQ of around 100 (equivalent to Russia/Europe), and are almost as secular as the average Russian. In other words, they are the exception that proves the rule. None of that applies to the Muslims of the North Caucasus or Central Asia, the latter of whom are immigrating to Russia by the millions. Nor of course to the Muslims flooding into Europe.

    “Volga Tatars have an average IQ of around 100 (equivalent to Russia/Europe), and are almost as secular as the average Russian. In other words, they are the exception that proves the rule.”
    They also prefer marriages within their ethnic group.

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  85. @Quartermaster

    But the West it too busy demonizing everything “Putin” and supporting anything russophobic, such as the Nazis in the Ukraine, that it simply cannot follow this example.
     
    You just can't get past this BS. I'm sure you write it off as simply not true, and that's your problem because you simply deny the facts hoping they will go away. They won't.

    Putin is an idiot accommodating Muslims. But, then, he seems to like stupidity. He's mush like you Saker. Much like you.

    By the by. The Nazis are in Moscow. The place is filthy with skinheads and other Neo-nazis. They are almost non-existent in Ukraine.

    And who are you, accommodating the silly statements again and again and exposing yourself as a Kaganist on the UNZ Review?

    FYI: “US Congress ends funding for Ukraine’s neo-Nazi Azov Battalion:” https://theduran.com/us-congress-ends-funding-for-ukraines-neo-nazi-azov-battalion/

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  86. @German_reader
    "For example, did you notice the vast majority of these so-called “Islamic” crazies had strong ties to the European security services? That some of them even had traveled to Israel? Doesn’t it seem strange to you that their attacks somehow always seem to be scheduled to coincide with important political events in Europe? Could there have been a genuine ISIS attack in Europe? Yes. But I am pretty sure that most of them were Gladio-style false flags executed by EU or US special services."

    These conspiracy theories are simply demented. I don't know why a certain type of Christian reactionary who dislikes the modern West (which I do as well, but for different reasons) is so bizarrely sympathetic to Islam and thinks relations between Muslims and non-Muslims would be just fine if it weren't for scheming "AngloZionists" or whatever.
    TheSaker is probably right that mass expulsions of Muslims from Western Europe won't happen and an Islamic presence is here to stay (unless things get really ugly with open civil war). But apart from that, I can't agree...seems like mostly wishful thinking to me.

    “These conspiracy theories are simply demented.”
    You need to read a bit about Gladio (see also Ledeen) and about the CIA’ sponsorship of “moderate jihadis.” Too many roads lead to Oded Yinon plan.

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  87. @Diversity Heretic
    I like Muslims just fine in Muslim countries. You may find the scenes of mosques and Orthodox churches in the same photograph beautiful but they disgust me. I'm certain that many people in Spain during the 700 year Reconquista moaned that "the Muslims are here to stay, we can never expel them, Islam is now a part of Spain." But in 1492 the Spaniards sent them packing.

    Robert Fico of Slovakia has said correctly that there is no place for Islam in the West. There may be minor exceptions in the Balkans and I'm content to let the Russians figure out what to do with their Central Asian Republics. But the policy towards Muslims in the West ought to be either expulsion (both citizenship and legal residency can be revoked) or partition into Muslim and non-Muslim areas. Expulsion impossible, you say? The Poles expelled millions of ethnic Germans from historically German areas like Pomerania, Silesia, East and West Prussia in a couple of years after WWII. Didn't even say please; just did it. There's no reason that the same can't be done to Muslims. Where shall we send them? Well, there are lots of Muslim countries, and many of them are very wealthy and some have nice climates. Why wouldn't they welcome their wonderful Muslim brothers and sisters with open arms? (Well, maybe they know them better than we do!)

    The more likely solution is partition of specific European countries, beginning probably with France. The territorial real estate solution will be agonizing but Yugoslavia broke up and the sun came up the next day in Belgrade.

    The most likely solution is that Western Europe descends into a caramel colored undifferentiated consumerist mass governed by an elite. The elite's wealth and political clout will largely insulate it from the consequences, but the historic European populations will be periodically terrorized by unassimilable, predominantly Muslim Arabs, Africans and Turks, and relentlessly persecuted if they try and hit back.

    Permitting large scale Muslim immigration into Western Europe has been one of the worst public policy decisions of all time. The great-grandchildren of the people who permitted it will be fully justified in digging up the bones of their ancestors and hanging them in chains.

    “I like Muslims just fine in Muslim countries.”
    Sure.
    The most important step to stop the flood of refugees and migrants should be a new round of Nuremberg Process and the conviction of western war criminals that made the Muslims to run/swim for their lives to other countries. Here is a suggestion: tax the war profiteers (including financial sector) to initiate a real Marshall plan in those countries that were destroyed by the western “elites” for oil, Israel, power, and money. How about making Cheney & Blair families dirt poor? That would be a great example for those who take national sovereignty lightly.

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    • Replies: @Sergey Krieger
    Cancel well fare for all non citizens no exclusion. No food and no shelter. Do not feed wild animals. Make sure that target areas where refugees are coming from aware of this. Shot those who behave violently without hesitation. No rights for them.
  88. @Anon
    The Truth About Macron

    https://t.co/zwvBqhZVwl

    Thank you for the link:
    “The Truth About Macron: ” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6H0cjIN4gw
    This is excellent.

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  89. @Corvinus
    "Hey, look! A real live agent provocateur! They really do exist."

    Hard righties here seem to lament about the machinations of the Jews, or the elites, or the Beltway boys, or whomever boogey is the flavor of the day, state how they are ruining things, and demand that something must be done about it. Yet, it's only words, and rarely actions.

    "We will elect the right people, and you will stop receiving a paycheck."

    Who are these "right" people? And regarding my paycheck, I work for myself. I'm not worried about losing my job and earning no income.

    Do you remember the old joke where the Lone Ranger and Tonto are surrounded by injuns? and then the LR says to Tonto, “We’re surrounded! It looks like we’re finished.” to which Tonto replies, “What do you mean WE?”.
    File it away for your future.

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    "Do you remember the old joke where the Lone Ranger and Tonto are surrounded by injuns? and then the LR says to Tonto, “We’re surrounded! It looks like we’re finished.” to which Tonto replies, “What do you mean WE?”. File it away for your future."

    You forgot the most important part of that old joke. Tonto then laughs, shoots the injuns, and tells the Lone Ranger that he wants a shot of firewater for doing his part. Put that part in your peace pipe.
  90. @Alden
    What is the source of your statements about White Frenchwomen and blacks?

    There is none anywhere because White French women don't associate with blacks.
    You've never been to France in your life so you don't even have anecdotal evidence.

    Get your mind out of the gutter. Your obsession with the sex lives of people 5,000 miles away is just plain pornographic Bet you type these posts with one hand..

    I’ve been to France many times, and Britain, and Germany. Many white women do, and not just in France. “Tis thee that doesn’t get out much.

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  91. @Timothy Zak
    "The threat has never been Islam. The threat is Takfirism. Here is how Wikipedia defines the concept of “Takfir”: In Islamic law, takfir or takfeer (Arabic: تكفير‎‎ takfīr) refers to the practice of excommunication, one Muslim declaring another Muslim as kafir (non-believer). "

    Wonderful, more experts on Islam. Almost as credible as the Muslims who proclaim "Peace! Peace!" The destruction of the western institutions is accepted as a premise, as is the permanence of Loyalty to the Prophet.

    Islamic war is obligatory. Those who take the initiative have authority. Those who do not join war must be killed - unless they emigrate in the process of Hijra. Once the west accepts their presence as a fait accompli, there will be nowhere else to go. There is no other option in the end - it is the goal of Islam as such. Such it has been from the time of Mohamed. It has been clearly stated then and it will always be.

    It's by no means necessary to suppose Muslims are bad. It is merely necessary to acknowledge the reality of the nature of Islamic warfare is only violent in the minority of instances. Unlike the author of this abysmal article, defeatism is not an option within Islam. Their only option is total victory.

    “Islamic war is obligatory.”
    Is this an opinion of Israel-firsters? You surely have historical evidence under your sleeve to support the statement.

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    I know a very good book about it:
    "Understanding Jihad" by David Cook
    Mustread for everybody.
  92. @m62man
    How would Kadryov react if Putin wanted to settle thousands of Christians in Chechnya?

    It's doubtful you could find a thousand Christians to go, but if they did they would have a new church to attend..

    http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/92852.htm

    “How would Kadryov react if Putin wanted to settle thousands of Christians in Chechnya?”
    Why? Please take a look at Russian geography and the data on the density of population in Russian Federation.

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    Really wish that the Russians were having many more children - enough to thoroughly conquer, eliminate, or deport Muslim populations from Chechnya, Dagestan, and the rest of the Caucasus. In other words, it would be better for Russians and for the west if Russians had both the numbers and the will to make the Caucasus truly their own and eradicate the Islamic sickness from their midst and from their borders.

    But Russia certainly lacks the population to do that, and it seems highly unlikely that their population of ethnic Russians will grow much, let alone to make real colonization of the south possible.

    As for what Kadyrov and other Islamic sickos would do if Russia collapsed or became unable to project commanding force and offer substantial subsidies to Chechnya, I wouldn't want to be a nonMuslim there when that happens....

  93. @jilles dykstra
    Did not make sept 11 make it abundantly clear that western nations need pretexts for waging wars and introducing a totalitarian society ?
    The Patriot Act was already lying ready on sept 11.

    “…western nations need pretexts for waging wars and introducing a totalitarian society…” Unfortunately true.

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  94. @Eric the Red
    You are remarkably ignorant of mohammedan history over the last 1400 years. But then that is to be expected for a blame-America-first mindset. Mohammedanism started out in two small towns in Arabia, then took over all of the Mideast by force of arms. Those areas were predominantly Christian, as proven by archeology and the Bible. Much of Europe was also overrun, but decisive battles in 732, 1571, 1683 and then 700 years of Spanish resistance drove out mohammedans from Europe. Then shall we discuss the horrors mohammedans visited upon India? And what about Indonesia, Malaysia, the 'stans, south Thailand, Mindanao, etc. etc? What this all means is that whenever mohammedans believe they are the strong horse, they will attack, again and again, either to gain new territory or to regain what they have lost. When they feel they are the weak horse they will lie low, but overall they do not ever stop Dar al Harb (better look that up, since you are also ignorant about the actual tenets of mohammedanism).

    But of course to a leftist such as yourself true history is anathema, since leftists are heavily brainwashed by revisionist history when they attend Leftist Propaganda University. Full of deceit, the leftist invariably proclaims: “Who're you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?” Only a leftist could disingenuously claim that mohammedanism jihad hasn't fulfilled it's obligations, and then wrap up with the stale meme of moral equivalence.

    Good luck with all that, chuck-0.

    “…whenever mohammedans believe they are the strong horse, they will attack, again and again…”
    Exchange the word “mohammedans” with the word “christians” and you get a picture of Christian conquests in the second millennium AD. Exchange the word “mohammedans” with the word “ziocons” and you get the history of the US in the 21st century AD.
    Does Cheney look leftist for you?

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  95. @Eric the Red
    Nowhere in that article is there any reference to actual economic statistics, which would prove that most countries that were behind the Iron Curtain have benefited from freedom and are now better off economically and politically.

    The article is also remarkably deficient in noting that expectations in these countries are now compared against the rest of Europe, not against the Communist bloc, which would therefore be a part of the feelings expressed in polling.

    Finally, you make the same logical fallacy that all leftists make, specifically argumentum ad populum, which renders your entire line of argument moot.

    It's remarkable to me to still find an apologist for Marxism. After the abysmal record of communism in every country it's been tried, along with the horrific body count, anyone who still prattles about giving communism a try should be stripped of citizenship, expelled from whatever Western country in which they are living, and drop-parachuted into North Korea.

    North Korea is a totalitarian regime. Whereas the socialist policies in Norway reflect rather good on democracy. – Or this is also an apologia for communism?

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  96. Islam is not just a “religion”, but is an all-encompassing foreign social and political system that governs all aspect of every moslem’s life. As such, NO Constitutional “First Amendment” protections need be afforded this foreign political system and their adherents. In fact, ALL moslems who hold American citizenship should be required to (re)affirm their loyalty to the United States.

    The only way for Islam to “reform itself” is to separate the spiritual aspect of the “religion” from the social and political part. Christianity did just that, hundreds of years ago… It is long overdue for Islam to reform itself–if it can…

    Islam is actually an arabicized version of judaism. Both the talmud and the koran have virtually identical passages in which the “supremacy” of each respective group is proclaimed. Both texts declare that non-believers are “less than human” and are to be used for the advantage of each respective cult. You can bet that, if push came to shove, jews would align with the muslims as they are of the same cloth.

    Add to that, ALL dual-citizenship should be abolished. There is no room in the United States for those who hold “dual-citizenship”. One cannot have split loyalties…split loyalties have contributed to our present situation.

    There is another “group” of dual-citizenship” types that deserve strict scrutiny. There are approximately 40 or so congresscritters who hold dual-citizenship with a “certain little country” in the middle east. In fact, many of these congresscritters are given all-expenses paid “vacations” to this “certain little country” as a “reward” for doing that country’s bidding. There are THOUSANDS of high-level federal “policy wonks” and government employees who also hold dual-citizenship with that “certain little country”. It is reasonable to question who they really work for–the USA or “that certain other country”.

    It was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of that “certain little country” in the middle east…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and deport themselves to that “certain little country” in the middle east…

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    You're right that we absolutely must prohibit dual citizenship.

    Anyone who applies for a US passport, citizenship, permanent residency, voting registration, or a government job, should be required to affirmatively renounce all foreign citizenship in writing and in person, both under oath and penalty of perjury. Our government should research and investigate to get written confirmation from the home country that the immigrant has renounced their citizenship.

    , @Peripatetic commenter

    Islam is actually an arabicized version of judaism. Both the talmud and the koran have virtually identical passages in which the “supremacy” of each respective group is proclaimed. Both texts declare that non-believers are “less than human” and are to be used for the advantage of each respective cult. You can bet that, if push came to shove, jews would align with the muslims as they are of the same cloth.
     
    How interesting. The following article claims that Islam formed out of a Judaizing Christian Sect in Syria or there abouts:

    http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/160197/sec_id/160197
    , @MarkinPNW
    "The only way for Islam to “reform itself” is to separate the spiritual aspect of the “religion” from the social and political part."

    Weren't Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya all Islamic countries that were doing that, or beginning to do that, and what happened to them? A "secular" Islamic country or culture seems to get perceived as a "threat" to somebody, and therefore in need of being destroyed, resulting in a violent resurgence of the more primitive and brutal forms of Islamism.
  97. @German_reader
    "For example, did you notice the vast majority of these so-called “Islamic” crazies had strong ties to the European security services? That some of them even had traveled to Israel? Doesn’t it seem strange to you that their attacks somehow always seem to be scheduled to coincide with important political events in Europe? Could there have been a genuine ISIS attack in Europe? Yes. But I am pretty sure that most of them were Gladio-style false flags executed by EU or US special services."

    These conspiracy theories are simply demented. I don't know why a certain type of Christian reactionary who dislikes the modern West (which I do as well, but for different reasons) is so bizarrely sympathetic to Islam and thinks relations between Muslims and non-Muslims would be just fine if it weren't for scheming "AngloZionists" or whatever.
    TheSaker is probably right that mass expulsions of Muslims from Western Europe won't happen and an Islamic presence is here to stay (unless things get really ugly with open civil war). But apart from that, I can't agree...seems like mostly wishful thinking to me.

    These conspiracy theories are simply demented.

    Since we’re sticking stupid labels on things here, I’d say that to write off reasonable theories as demented is retarded.

    Look up the Lavon affair, and Operation Northwoods besides the ones mentioned by other comenters.

    Or one could read George Morgenstern’s, The Secret War for details on how the unimagineable is done successfully. It’s available free online at:

    https://mises.org/library/pearl-harbor-story-secret-war

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  98. Question for the Muslim bashers:

    Cui bono?

    It’s pretty obvious to me that neither Christians nor Muslims benefit from getting stirred up over one another. I may be hallucinating, but all this crapola regarding Muslims seems to correlate with the rise of the neocons, and I find it suspicious.

    N-grams of the words, “Islam” and “Muslim” can be interesting…

    Also, it’s pretty obvious that Muslims, like Putin and North Korea, serve as diversions from the real issues. It should also be obvious that the biggest threat to the health, safety and welfare comes from the ruling classes. (That’s a hint.)

    The more that Islam and Muslims, or Iran, or Putin, or N Korea are demonized, the more we should be motivated to ask, “cui bono?”

    The more often that the epithet, “conspiracy theorist” is spewed, the more we should be motivated to ask, “cui bono?”

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    or who thinks that they will benefit.

    I would suspect that professional European politicians will not oppose and will actually facilitate this religious invasion because they are terrified of a Middle Eastern boycott of the industry of their respective countries. They're that sold out.

  99. @Numinous
    The British dominated (and in some ways, re-made) India from the 18th to the 20th centuries. How do you disentangle the damage they did from the damage the Muslim invaders did?

    How do you disentangle the damage they did from the damage the Muslim invaders did?

    Ask any sane Hindu who they would prefer. Which schools, railroads, courts, buildings, roads, government, etc., they would rather have, Muslim or British?

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    Well said.

    In total, it's difficult to see where any 3rd world country formerly ruled by Britain is better off without Britain.

    Also recall that sub-Saharan Africa never had any written languages until the Europeans arrived. Not to mention sanitation, healthcare, laws, labor saving machinery, mathematics, on & on it goes.

    , @Numinous
    You must not know much history of India. The British built no schools for the Indian public. They built some very exclusive ones to train (some) Indians to be clerks for the British Indian bureaucracy, to act as mediators between the white sahibs and the masses.

    All the other stuff you talk about: the British built some, but exclusively to serve the British themselves and a small section of the Indian elite; the goal was to extract revenue from India, not to provide public services. Only when the British left India and the natives ascended to government did infrastructure building start in overdrive.

    When the British encountered India, the latter produced about the quarter of the world's GDP. After a century and a half of British rule in the early 1900s, India's share of world GDP had fallen to 3% or so. Some rule! Enough said!
  100. @Sergey Krieger
    I lived in Uzbekistan for 20 years and it was pretty clear that we and them did not mix that well even then. Were I to tell you from my friends tales as to what those nice Muslims were doing to Russians and non Muslims in general when in majority in Soviet usually engineering/ stroibat units you would lose appetite.
    There were very few Uzbeks that I knew that were Russified.
    At school there were special A classes for them and they were behind in everything compared to mixed classes. In University as I studied among them few of them excelled though there were few exceptions. I notice the pattern is there across all of Muslim countries. I have no idea what part of their bodies those people use when considering and implementing immigration of this low quality impossible to absorb human material into developed countries.
    The main issue behind all this immigration policies is of course inability of developed countries to assure mere replacement levels of birth rates. This is imho the main reason behind the crisis. The problem that elites find it easier to bring in immigrants instead of developing conditions for core population birth rates increase.
    This is also Russia problem. This is grave threat which require action on the highest level and developing of coherent policies even immigration one if necessary which for the time being to meliorate the issue before local birth rates kicks in should bring immigrants only of same race and similar cultural background.
    I have no clue who decided to turn white Canada into some kind of Monkey Zoo. When I am driving along and can barely see European faces among pedestrians.

    I have no idea what part of their bodies those people use when considering and implementing immigration of this low quality impossible to absorb human material into developed countries… I have no clue who decided to turn white Canada into some kind of Monkey Zoo. When I am driving along and can barely see European faces among pedestrians.

    Very interesting.

    Note that Sergey Krieger wrote this about me in Israel Shamir’s thread:

    I notice you are very much concerned with ethnic purity. I guess such people as Alexander Vasiliievich Souvorov, Pushkin, Lermontov, Bagration, Blok and many other would not make it to your list.

    While essentially repeating my racist–nazifascist-1488 arguments in anecdotal form here.

    Conclusions:

    (1) Nationalism is correct.

    (2) Even Communists know it, but are too schizophrenic to acknowledge it. :)

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    Come on Anatoly. It should be clear why I am making distinctions. No contradiction on my part whatsoever. If uzbek accepts Russian culture, becomes part of it and basically behaves and thinks like Russian it is one thing. I am talking about those who do not mix. There is Russian word for this. Obryssevshii. The one who essentially becomes Russian.
    , @Sergey Krieger
    The difference between you and me essentially that you look at some essentially Russian background, find some inorodec among his ancessors and make big deal out of it, when the guy is simply either Russian ass**whole or idiot. I am concerned about allien elements who basically allien to Russian culture, way of thinking, religion and so forth. If one has someone not Russian among his parents, grandparents but essentially behaves, thinks like Russian and share language and culture and outlooks why should I care? He is Russian by all means.
  101. @Eric the Red
    Nowhere in that article is there any reference to actual economic statistics, which would prove that most countries that were behind the Iron Curtain have benefited from freedom and are now better off economically and politically.

    The article is also remarkably deficient in noting that expectations in these countries are now compared against the rest of Europe, not against the Communist bloc, which would therefore be a part of the feelings expressed in polling.

    Finally, you make the same logical fallacy that all leftists make, specifically argumentum ad populum, which renders your entire line of argument moot.

    It's remarkable to me to still find an apologist for Marxism. After the abysmal record of communism in every country it's been tried, along with the horrific body count, anyone who still prattles about giving communism a try should be stripped of citizenship, expelled from whatever Western country in which they are living, and drop-parachuted into North Korea.

    It’s remarkable to me to still find an apologist for Marxism.

    Or Leninism or Stalinism. Or Churchillism or FDRism, etc…

    I mean, people actually voted for, supported, and still apologize for the likes of Clinton, Bush, Obama, and now, Trump.

    What is it with people like that? Where do folks get their faith?

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  102. @Boris N
    As a person who has on purpose studied Islam and who knows about the subject a thing or two, I can reassure that nothing that either the Saudis or Wahhabis are doing contradicts Islam. On the contrary, it perfectly imitates the practices and policies conducted by Muhammad himself and by his followers during the first caliphates. You cannot rebuke them from the point of view of Islam. And if you really think, that before the establishment of the Saudi Arabia Islam was somewhat different, like "moderate", you are either naive or ignorant. The current Islamic regime of Saudi Arabia with its harsh Sharia laws is simply an echo of the earlier policies of practically every Islamic country. What you may be perceiving now in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states as Islamic barbarism and extremism was absolutely normal legal practices just 200 years ago, in the 19th century in places like from Morocco to Kokand. The only reason Islam become moderate is due to the Western colonization which brought secularism and modernity to the Islamic world.

    So I think the only sure way to "fix Islam" is not to embrace it and encourage it but on the contrary push the secular and atheistic agenda toward Muslims. Let Muslims become non-Muslims, at least agnostics. Because if they remain Muslims they will never stop to look at the early times of Islam and try to imitate that. "Islamism" is ingrained into Islam from the beginning.

    The only reason Islam has become fundamental is due to the Western colonization, what began around 1500.
    Richard Fletcher, ‘Moorish Spain’, Berkeley 1992
    Ibn Battúta, ‘Travels in Asia and Africa 1325 – 1354′, 1929, 1983, London
    Reuben Levy, ‘The social structure of Islam’, London, New York, 1931, 1932, 1957, 1971

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    I have little doubts that those authors you've cited wrote some interesting stuff, but how could it be denied that the modern Saudi or ISIS types would very well mix into any Muslims country, as you say, before 1500. Nothing the so-called fundamentalists are doing that contradicts Islam, or that would not be done in pre-1500 or even pre-1800 Islamic countries. You're saying about them as of a leftie paradise full of tolerance and social progress. I see here nothing but another example of West blaming. Harmless Islam and innocent Muslims, who did nothing wrong, but then came evil Westerners and broke that idyll. Sickening.
  103. @Eric the Red
    You are remarkably ignorant of mohammedan history over the last 1400 years. But then that is to be expected for a blame-America-first mindset. Mohammedanism started out in two small towns in Arabia, then took over all of the Mideast by force of arms. Those areas were predominantly Christian, as proven by archeology and the Bible. Much of Europe was also overrun, but decisive battles in 732, 1571, 1683 and then 700 years of Spanish resistance drove out mohammedans from Europe. Then shall we discuss the horrors mohammedans visited upon India? And what about Indonesia, Malaysia, the 'stans, south Thailand, Mindanao, etc. etc? What this all means is that whenever mohammedans believe they are the strong horse, they will attack, again and again, either to gain new territory or to regain what they have lost. When they feel they are the weak horse they will lie low, but overall they do not ever stop Dar al Harb (better look that up, since you are also ignorant about the actual tenets of mohammedanism).

    But of course to a leftist such as yourself true history is anathema, since leftists are heavily brainwashed by revisionist history when they attend Leftist Propaganda University. Full of deceit, the leftist invariably proclaims: “Who're you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?” Only a leftist could disingenuously claim that mohammedanism jihad hasn't fulfilled it's obligations, and then wrap up with the stale meme of moral equivalence.

    Good luck with all that, chuck-0.

    I do not read that jews in N Africa and the Iberian peninsula welcomed the Muslims because their christan rulers oppressed them.
    Jewish help explains why the Muslim rule expanded so quickly.
    Shlomo Sand, ‘The Invention of the Jewish People’, London, New York, 2009, 2010 (Tel Aviv, 2008, hebrew)

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  104. They need to go back. This is all we need to know. Well, plus the pressing need to rediscover faith in God.

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  105. @RodW
    Having lived among muslims in the U.K. and now encountering them in Japan too, I agree that the doors of non-muslim countries should be shut to them. They may or may not assimilate in time, but they're horribly annoying until they do, and why suffer that if you don't have to?

    Even the muslims here in Japan studying advanced science degrees post unscientific and antifactual crap on Facebook about the nature of their god and what happens if you eat pork and consume alcohol (surprisingly, the answer isn't 'digestion'). Their religion makes it impossible for them to hold and profess simple truths, which makes them unfit as even casual companions. It makes no difference which country they come from either or to which race they belong. But as muslims, they all glom together and wallow in the same bullshit.

    I agree that the doors of non-muslim countries should be shut to them.

    I agree, They tend not to be here for too long, but it is as if they badly want a toe-hold.

    There was one man here, huge beard, pyjamas, the passengers in his car looked like Jihad Inc. His wife wore a space-suit. Saw him with his family a few times, it was sad, son dressed freely, daughter not, wife in space-suit.

    I would guess that he had a teaching job (about Islam) at the uni. nearby. Would also guess that he was as much of a fanatic as he looked.

    He is not around any more.

    For a more interesting story, I lived in Singapore for five years, finished primary school and started high school at normal (but good, they have meritocratic selection) schools there. So I like the food.

    There is no good restaurant to making it in Tokyo. So, I checked on the ‘net. There was a blog by a fat and fanatically devout Malay woman, main topic how ‘halal’ the places (few) were.

    One was run by the Malaysian embassy. She was excited by her patrol activities there, to make sure that ethnic malays did not touch glasses containing beer, for example.

    She also had an ‘Are you a good Muslim?’ quiz on her blog. I forget most of it, but one was

    How many children should you have?

    A. Two or three, to provide for them as well as you can.

    B. A soccer team, to provide many soldiers for Allah.

    There were a couple of other choices for that question, but ‘soccer team’ was the right answer for that one.

    How irresponsible is that?

    Took a friend to the restaurant, sure enough the patrollers were clearly strutting along the floor outside, but walking the length of the arcade. I would guess that was to avoid complaints to the police.

    The food was alright, not great, better than anywhere else here for that style. The place is now long closed. It was popular, I would guess the jihad patrollers had a major role in having it closed.

    I now avoid any restaurants that appear to be run by moslems, and recommend that to others, they also (here) seem to have a high rate of setting their places on fire for insurance money.

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    "I now avoid any restaurants that appear to be run by moslems, and recommend that to others, they also (here) seem to have a high rate of setting their places on fire for insurance money".

    No different than "jewish lightning" here in the USA. This was (and still is) a common practice.

    in the 1960s and 1970s, a prominent Detroit department store chain experienced "jewish lightning" one building at a time. The jewish owner was so crass, he had television commercials broadcast with himself holding a fireman's hat and smiling while stating that "we would have a fire sale this week, but we didn't have one". . .

    World Trade Center-7 is a prime example of "jewish lightning". . . it was "dropped" without being hit by any planes.

    A few weeks earlier, the owner, Larry Silverstein insured the buildings separately so that he could get paid for each one . . .
  106. @annamaria
    "I like Muslims just fine in Muslim countries."
    Sure.
    The most important step to stop the flood of refugees and migrants should be a new round of Nuremberg Process and the conviction of western war criminals that made the Muslims to run/swim for their lives to other countries. Here is a suggestion: tax the war profiteers (including financial sector) to initiate a real Marshall plan in those countries that were destroyed by the western "elites" for oil, Israel, power, and money. How about making Cheney & Blair families dirt poor? That would be a great example for those who take national sovereignty lightly.

    Cancel well fare for all non citizens no exclusion. No food and no shelter. Do not feed wild animals. Make sure that target areas where refugees are coming from aware of this. Shot those who behave violently without hesitation. No rights for them.

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    I understand your sentiments. But how about making Cheney & Blair et al' families pay for alleviating the refugee crisis. Would not it be great to make Wolfowitz (and his whole family), as well as the Obama family, work for minimum wage and pay monetary retributions for the Middle East tragedy. The "deciders" should be punished where it hurts - in their personal fortunes. That would be a good example for those who take national sovereignty lightly. The national sovereignty means the strict enforcement of both immigration laws (viva Le Pen) and international laws (no more "humanitarian" interventions that create slaughter houses on a massive scale). And it is certainly time to establish a new round of Nuremberg Process and to convict the western war criminals who made the Muslims run/swim for their lives to Europe. - The same ziocon idiots have crashed the protection of Europe from sub-Saharan migrants, which the late Gaddaffi used to provide. - The war profiteers (financial sector, mercenary army' contractors, MIC, mega oil-corporations ) should be taxed to initiate a Marshall plan in those countries that were destroyed by western “elites” for oil, Eretz Israel, power, and money. Then the muslim population of Europe should be induced to go back to their restored native lands.
  107. @Numinous

    Racism is a phony Western concept that tries to make the natural human desire to be with your own kind into a bad thing.
     
    Defining one's "own kind" is also a a very human thing. Humans have always found kindred spirits across racial and ethnic boundaries.

    Racism is the historical phenomenon of creation of racial hierarchies in multi-racial societies. Most societies since the dawn of civilization have been perfectly fine with (some) diversity. Racism (indeed, a Western concept, as you point out) was the outgrowth of pseudo-scientific theories about races being strictly inferior or superior to each other, and the desire of the more powerful race (white people in this case) to not be "polluted" by their so-called inferiors.

    Racism is the historical phenomenon of creation of racial hierarchies in multi-racial societies.

    If that is true, how do you explain Japanese racism ? Japan is a very homogeneous society, and they if they allow any immigration, it is very little. Smart folks those Japanese.

    Racism (indeed, a Western concept, as you point out) was the outgrowth of pseudo-scientific theories about races being strictly inferior or superior to each other, and the desire of the more powerful race (white people in this case) to not be “polluted” by their so-called inferiors.

    Again I refer you to the Japanese as an example. They think every other race is inferior to them. It is not a Western concept. What is a Western concept is defining racism as bad. As I wrote, it is simple human desire to be with one’s own kind. While there is some tolerance to small numbers of outsiders, tensions grow much larger as larger disparate groups of people are forced together. It is why we have China Towns, Italian neighborhoods like Boston’s North End, etc. There is nothing bad about groups of people wanting to be with their own kind, what is bad is government or any other entity trying to force people together when the people have no desire to merge.

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    The Japanese had a traumatic encounter with European power in the middle of the 19th century, and then (being smart people) decided to get ahead themselves by closely observing Europeans (and colonials and Americans....) and trying to emulate them as best as they could. European settlers practiced racism. Europeans colonizing other countries (India, SE Asia, N. Africa) practiced racism. Mid-19th century was also the period when scientific racism was peaking, so Japan, which wanted to ascend the food chain, thought it needed its own "ni.....rs" to kick around. So they picked miscellaneous East Asians (starting with the Koreans, then moving on to the Chinese....until Hiroshima and Nagasaki came to bite them in their rears.)

    People living in their own country tend to be a conservative bunch, and "prefer their own" (I agree with you there.) But only whites have practiced racism when they have migrated abroad, so I will treat them as unique in that respect. There is a substantial Japanese diaspora in South American countries like Peru and Brazil; I have no information to suggest that they are especially racist towards people other races there; to the contrary, they seem to blend so well that the Japanese in the motherland consider them to be aliens.

  108. @Anatoly Karlin

    So even if the current generation is poorly educated and not integrated in the European society, the next one will. I have seen that with many other economic migrants such as Italians or Albanians.
     
    Didn't happen with the first generation, nor with the second, but surely the next generation of 85 IQ inbreds will finally be the one to converge to European standards. Third time's the charm!

    But I am pretty sure that most of them were Gladio-style false flags executed by EU or US special services.
     
    I for one am pretty sure most of them were Illuminati-style false flags executed by biomechanically augmented cyborgs.

    As for Chechnia, Putin has made Ramzan Kadyrov something of a “political son” and has given the Chechens extremely wide autonomy, especially in matters of religion.
     
    Don't forget the minor matter of gibsmedats equivalent to 85% of their local budget.

    The point here is that after centuries of warfare both Muslims and Orthodox Christians have learned how to coexist in peace and even create something truly beautiful, like this Kremlin, together.
     
    Volga Tatars have an average IQ of around 100 (equivalent to Russia/Europe), and are almost as secular as the average Russian. In other words, they are the exception that proves the rule. None of that applies to the Muslims of the North Caucasus or Central Asia, the latter of whom are immigrating to Russia by the millions. Nor of course to the Muslims flooding into Europe.

    Anatoly

    What difference does it make what the Muslim IQ is?….They do not belong on Russian Living and Breeding Space.

    I am for the mass expulsion of all Muslims out the US…Canada….Europe…and Russia.

    I am also for the mass expulsion of all Israeli Nationals out of the US…Canada….and Russia.

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  109. @rw95
    "Europeans are white. All white people are equal. Don’t you pay attention to the Alt Right?"

    Ah, yes. That lovely consistency of the alt-right.

    "We reject equality and egalitarianism between races. Races are not equal."

    "All whites are equal (even though there are very clear differences between European populations). White is white and white is right."

    “Ah, yes. That lovely consistency of the alt-right.”

    Races are equal before God when receiving salvation.

    Races are equal before the law regarding due process.

    Regarding these “clear differences” between European populations, the majority of white Americans are quite aware of them, but they do not hold to your antiquated notion of a “European ethnic hierarchy”.

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  110. @reiner Tor

    Europeans are white. All white people are equal. Don’t you pay attention to the Alt Right?
     
    I guess there could be alt-right authors who say so, but I seriously doubt it's a majority position among the alt-right. Everybody understands that there are significant biological differences among European ethnic groups. Why wouldn't there be? You can even spot them by just looking at them, can you tell the difference between a Greek and a Swede?

    “Everybody understands that there are significant biological differences among European ethnic groups. Why wouldn’t there be? You can even spot them by just looking at them, can you tell the difference between a Greek and a Swede?”

    Indeed, the majority of white Americans are quite aware of them, but they do not hold to your antiquated notion of a “European ethnic hierarchy”.

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    Most Hungarians are aware that a country populated by Swedes will work better than a country populated by Hungarians. For example, around 1990, when some managers of state companies were sent to Sweden to learn, one of them openly remarked that some of their solutions would prove impossible to implement, because Swedes are different (i.e. better). Just a few years ago someone (a Hungarian) casually mentioned to me in a private conversation how the Swedish healthcare system was better than the Hungarian one, and that "it's only partly the money, in part it's because it's operated by Swedes - they would operate our system much better, too".

    It doesn't mean Hungarians are unworthy of having a country for themselves, or that Swedes are better in everything (for example, I find Hungarians better companions and friendlier; I also think no Swedish composer matches Bartók), or that our country wouldn't be a nice place to live in (especially if we didn't have a legacy of four decades of communism, and so many Gypsies), but obviously there are some things which Swedes excel at and where Hungarians are worse. (Not nearly as bad as, say, Syrians, just worse than Swedes.)

    You need to be stupid or blind or both to be unaware of that.
  111. @NoseytheDuke
    Do you remember the old joke where the Lone Ranger and Tonto are surrounded by injuns? and then the LR says to Tonto, "We're surrounded! It looks like we're finished." to which Tonto replies, "What do you mean WE?".
    File it away for your future.

    “Do you remember the old joke where the Lone Ranger and Tonto are surrounded by injuns? and then the LR says to Tonto, “We’re surrounded! It looks like we’re finished.” to which Tonto replies, “What do you mean WE?”. File it away for your future.”

    You forgot the most important part of that old joke. Tonto then laughs, shoots the injuns, and tells the Lone Ranger that he wants a shot of firewater for doing his part. Put that part in your peace pipe.

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    I have never even heard of that part of the joke. I first saw it, illustrated, in Mad magazine, surely an authority on American humour, and it lacked the "most important" (least funny) part that you describe. I wonder which version other people here are aware of?

    Rest assured my peace pipe is well packed.
  112. @Corvinus
    "I like Muslims just fine in Muslim countries."

    And I enjoy people who embrace my values in my nation, whether it be white or non-white, Christian or non-Christian.

    "Robert Fico of Slovakia has said correctly that there is no place for Islam in the West."

    The major religions have a place "in the West". He is sadly mistaken.

    "But the policy towards Muslims in the West ought to be either expulsion (both citizenship and legal residency can be revoked)..."

    Only by force. Are you willing to fight?

    "or partition into Muslim and non-Muslim areas."

    Only by force. Are you willing to fight?

    "Expulsion impossible, you say? The Poles expelled millions of ethnic Germans from historically German areas like Pomerania, Silesia, East and West Prussia in a couple of years after WWII."

    Different context. The Poles had experienced two World Wars due in large part to German machinations. Of course they would condone this sort of action.

    "Where shall we send them? Well, there are lots of Muslim countries, and many of them are very wealthy and some have nice climates. Why wouldn’t they welcome their wonderful Muslim brothers and sisters with open arms? (Well, maybe they know them better than we do!)"

    Muslims are fine where they are in the West, especially in the United States.

    "The most likely solution is that Western Europe descends into a caramel colored undifferentiated consumerist mass governed by an elite. The elite’s wealth and political clout will largely insulate it from the consequences, but the historic European populations will be periodically terrorized by unassimilable, predominantly Muslim Arabs, Africans and Turks, and relentlessly persecuted if they try and hit back."

    Again, what are you doing to stop this phenomenon from materializing? How are you going to stop these elites cold in their tracks? Talking is NOT action.

    "The great-grandchildren of the people who permitted it will be fully justified in digging up the bones of their ancestors and hanging them in chains."

    White people collectively made this decision by way of freedom of association. You know, the liberty of people to decide for themselves who they want to "be around with".

    Your attempt to call out these shitposters and make them cash their rhetorical cheques in the physical realm has a false ring to it. All metabiological struggles, to riff on the above, have different classes of contender. You rightly pointed out, though mala fide it seems to me, the necessity of physical engagement. Resurgent Europe will have many sneakers on the ground to resist the immivasion in the years to come. Yet it will also have intellectuals working podiums and keyboards, parents reproducing genes and culture and, God willing, a decucked deus vult level priest class burning the corruption out of the European mind(s). I submit that the shitposters and memetic warriors are effective precisely insofar as they provoke the type of dishonest reflex to subvert and discredit their efforts seen above. I don’t think they made you tall enough for this ride at Hasbara school. We are right, we are growing, and we are going to take back our nations with as many sneakered shoes and keyboard-callused fingers as it takes. And once we or are heirs are demographically sovereign again, we will turn our attention to the architects and enablers.

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    "Your attempt to call out these shitposters and make them cash their rhetorical cheques in the physical realm has a false ring to it."

    No. These pleasant people have been calling for the heads of Jews, the elites, and globalists. They claim there is an imminent threat, one that has come to fruition over the past two decades.
    The time is now to act.

    "All metabiological struggles, to riff on the above, have different classes of contender. You rightly pointed out, though mala fide it seems to me, the necessity of physical engagement."

    I point out THEIR belief of this "necessity".

    "Resurgent Europe will have many sneakers on the ground to resist the immivasion in the years to come."

    Could have resisters with jackboots.

    "Yet it will also have intellectuals working podiums and keyboards, parents reproducing genes and culture and, God willing, a decucked deus vult level priest class burning the corruption out of the European mind(s)."

    Decucked, cucked, cuckology...all meaningless terms.

    "I submit that the shitposters and memetic warriors are effective precisely insofar as they provoke the type of dishonest reflex to subvert and discredit their efforts seen above. "

    They do well enough to discredit themselves through their logical fallacies.

    "I don’t think they made you tall enough for this ride at Hasbara school."

    What is it with this Jewish fetish by those on the Alt Right?

    "We are right, we are growing, and we are going to take back our nations with as many sneakered shoes and keyboard-callused fingers as it takes."

    First, who is this "we"? Second, how do you know you are "right"? Third, so long as you have those on the Alt Right who insist that certain European whites are "better" than other European whites, i.e. the "natural order of things", your movement will spin its wheels and go nowhere. Fourth, you do realize that the longer you wait, the more likely that the Jews, elites, and globalists will have so much power and authority that your "rebellion" will be crushed, right?

    "And once we or are heirs are demographically sovereign again, we will turn our attention to the architects and enablers."

    Would not these "architects and enablers" merely exercising their right of freedom to associate? their exercising of free will? Moreover, what will you do, IF you win against this group, to them? Murder them and their offspring? Would not this approach be best to ensure that they never achieve the same level of power?

    More questions than answers, my friend.
  113. @Jonathan Revusky


    I for one am pretty sure most of them were Illuminati-style false flags executed by biomechanically augmented cyborgs.
     
    Come on, Karlin, you are not that stupid.
     
    I don't think he is, no. It's willful ignorance. Karlin is in some kind of competition with some others here to see how much Zionist d*** he can get down his throat.

    Have you noticed how these guys always resort to this sort of lame sarcasm when somebody hits this kind of Zio third rail of false flag terrorism? Like that ghastly Stefan Molyneux creature. Or Fred Reed in his "Legion of the Tinfoil Hat" nonsense article...

    Asking as a fan of both your articles and Stefan’s show, what’s your beef with him?

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    Stefan Molyneux is not an honest person. He's a shill, a disinfo agent. The purpose of what he does is to bolster synthetic narratives and synthetic events.
  114. July 07, 2014 57 Years Ago: U.S. and Britain Approved Use of Islamic Extremists to Topple Syrian Government

    Nearly 50 years before the war in Iraq, Britain and America sought a secretive “regime change” in another Arab country… by planning the invasion of Syria and the assassination of leading figures.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/57-years-ago-u-s-and-britain-approved-use-of-islamic-extremists-to-topple-syrian-government/5390279

    Dec 9, 2015 US & Britain Planned Use of Islamic Extremists to Topple Syria ’57′ Years Ago

    BBC reports that – in 1957 – the British and American leaders approved the use of Islamic extremists and false flag attacks to topple the Syrian government: Nearly 50 years before the war in Iraq, Britain and America sought a secretive “regime change” in another Arab country… by planning the invasion of Syria and the assassination of leading figures.

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  115. “Today, the Takfiris are still the instrument of the AngloZionist Empire, they are the infection which is unleashed against any country daring to reject the Empire’s dominion”

    this is the language of a neo-nazi. I’m surprised that Unz allows him on this website.

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    Which part of "Free speech" is causing you so much confusion that you are so surprised by a comment based on observable evidence?
  116. @Anatoly Karlin

    So even if the current generation is poorly educated and not integrated in the European society, the next one will. I have seen that with many other economic migrants such as Italians or Albanians.
     
    Didn't happen with the first generation, nor with the second, but surely the next generation of 85 IQ inbreds will finally be the one to converge to European standards. Third time's the charm!

    But I am pretty sure that most of them were Gladio-style false flags executed by EU or US special services.
     
    I for one am pretty sure most of them were Illuminati-style false flags executed by biomechanically augmented cyborgs.

    As for Chechnia, Putin has made Ramzan Kadyrov something of a “political son” and has given the Chechens extremely wide autonomy, especially in matters of religion.
     
    Don't forget the minor matter of gibsmedats equivalent to 85% of their local budget.

    The point here is that after centuries of warfare both Muslims and Orthodox Christians have learned how to coexist in peace and even create something truly beautiful, like this Kremlin, together.
     
    Volga Tatars have an average IQ of around 100 (equivalent to Russia/Europe), and are almost as secular as the average Russian. In other words, they are the exception that proves the rule. None of that applies to the Muslims of the North Caucasus or Central Asia, the latter of whom are immigrating to Russia by the millions. Nor of course to the Muslims flooding into Europe.

    Spot on commentary. I feel the Saker is off his onion sometimes.
    Also why is ethnic cleansing not an option? The Turks did it, the Pakis did it, the Indonesians(“moderate Muslims”) did it, the Hutu did it in living memory. If Europeans got their gonads back there’s no reason it couldn’t happen.
    Could one reason both Putin and Merkel are inviting millions of the Great Unwashed is to use them as cannon fodder in the next great land confrontation between the Teuton and the Slav? Risky!!

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  117. @jilles dykstra
    Luther, by rationalising religion, is seen as the beginning of the end of religion, irrational beliefs.
    Liberating ourselves in the Netherlands from oppressive religions in fact just got into its final stage around 1960.

    Today in the Netherlands Islam is the biggest religion.
    There still are some christian fundamentalists, but their influence is hardly anything.
    Just in discussions on euthanasia and abortion they still are a nuisance.

    How long it will take us to get rid of a new nuisance, Islam, is difficult to predict.
    Young Muslims hardly seem to go to a mosque, on the other hand, fed by western warfare and terrorism against Muslims, plus cultural conflicts, the number of radical Muslims seems to increase.

    I do think it will take at least a hundred years to get rid of another oppressive religion, more exactly, oppressive religious leaders.

    Look up Oswald Spender’s notion of “the second religiosity”. It’s coming. Invasive Islam is the crucible that will revive the Church Militant. Those Calvinists you love to loathe are the only thing standing between your people and its doom. And as a comment on an iSteve post recently said, you are nothing without your people.

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  118. @Anatoly Karlin

    I have no idea what part of their bodies those people use when considering and implementing immigration of this low quality impossible to absorb human material into developed countries... I have no clue who decided to turn white Canada into some kind of Monkey Zoo. When I am driving along and can barely see European faces among pedestrians.
     
    Very interesting.

    Note that Sergey Krieger wrote this about me in Israel Shamir's thread:

    I notice you are very much concerned with ethnic purity. I guess such people as Alexander Vasiliievich Souvorov, Pushkin, Lermontov, Bagration, Blok and many other would not make it to your list.
     
    While essentially repeating my racist--nazifascist-1488 arguments in anecdotal form here.

    Conclusions:

    (1) Nationalism is correct.

    (2) Even Communists know it, but are too schizophrenic to acknowledge it. :)

    Come on Anatoly. It should be clear why I am making distinctions. No contradiction on my part whatsoever. If uzbek accepts Russian culture, becomes part of it and basically behaves and thinks like Russian it is one thing. I am talking about those who do not mix. There is Russian word for this. Obryssevshii. The one who essentially becomes Russian.

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    Well, you lived in Uzbekistan. Why didn't you adopt and become an Uzbeki? You remained yourself, Russian, and that is ok, but not ok for "others" to remain what they are. Can you hear yourself?
  119. “You might ask me about those Wahabi crazies who have already murdered many Europeans with screams of “Allahu Akbar” on their lips? Aren’t they bona fide ISIS-types? Well, that is a complicated issue. For example, did you notice the vast majority of these so-called “Islamic” crazies had strong ties to the European security services? That some of them even had traveled to Israel? Doesn’t it seem strange to you that their attacks somehow always seem to be scheduled to coincide with important political events in Europe? Could there have been a genuine ISIS attack in Europe? Yes. But I am pretty sure that most of them were Gladio-style false flags executed by EU or US special services.”
    While The Saker is touching a raw nerve, I find it extremely troubling that some commenters still speak of conspiracy theory. Just before the first electoral round of the French presidential election, a so called terrorist event happened in France. It was clear that the powers that be were keen on bettering the chances of Marine Le Pen for the second round as Le Pen would be the safest choice against their pet candidate Mr. Macron. From 9/11 to the Charlie Hebdo to Bataclan to Nice passing through the Boston marathon bombing, there are such repetitive features that it is becoming comic, but none more than the revealing of the identity of the terrorist through the discovery of an ID near the site of the terror event.
    As for all the interesting theories about equality and assimilation, it would best to consult with those who have lived in multicultural societies for centuries such as the Balkan and the Middle East be it in the Levant or in Egypt. All those people have resigned themselves to living with tolerance but I am fairly confident that in the depth of their hearts they would wish to do away with tolerance in favour of living free of the burden.
    The multicultural factor in Europe is a recent phenomenon that was imposed by the masters of discourse be them Zionists or Elitists. The European commoner did not initiate the problem. He or she is simply trying to deal with the consequences.

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    in the depth of their hearts they would wish to do away with tolerance in favour of living free of the burden.

    Tolerate - early 16th century (in the sense ‘endure (pain)’): from Latin tolerat- ‘endured,’ from the verb tolerare .
  120. @Mao Cheng Ji

    Now he is on a mission to Russia to proselytize the HBD gospel as he wrote somewhere. Who is paying for it?
     
    Hmm... You don't believe people are capable of advocating all kinds of nonsense of their own free will and at their own expense? In that case, who is financing you?

    A really common notion.

    Lots of people have claimed I must be being paid to promote the ideas I have.

    Sadly, I’m not.

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  121. @Eric the Red
    Nowhere in that article is there any reference to actual economic statistics, which would prove that most countries that were behind the Iron Curtain have benefited from freedom and are now better off economically and politically.

    The article is also remarkably deficient in noting that expectations in these countries are now compared against the rest of Europe, not against the Communist bloc, which would therefore be a part of the feelings expressed in polling.

    Finally, you make the same logical fallacy that all leftists make, specifically argumentum ad populum, which renders your entire line of argument moot.

    It's remarkable to me to still find an apologist for Marxism. After the abysmal record of communism in every country it's been tried, along with the horrific body count, anyone who still prattles about giving communism a try should be stripped of citizenship, expelled from whatever Western country in which they are living, and drop-parachuted into North Korea.

    In Hungary meat consumption is substantially lower for example (though it already started to drop in the 1980s after reaching its zenith sometime in the 1970s), I think like 30-40% lower, which is enough for people to notice. The proportion of beef and I think even pork has declined, while poultry has increased: we’re now eating chicken instead of beef. But then again, it’s difficult to compare, for example some of it might be a belated effect of the “red meat is unhealthy” or “fat is unhealthy” meme, which arrived in Hungary probably in the late 1980s.

    In any event, I think the transition to a market economy was really badly managed, for example I think that pushing for free trade and quick privatization was definitely harmful. I don’t think it was easy, and probably impossible to manage it much better, though, our manufacturing base (which was small, but world-class in the early 1940s) became mostly hopelessly obsolete by the 1980s, so it was obvious we’d lose much of it. In any event, relative to most of Western Europe, we are now more backward than we used to be in the late 1930s before the war. I think communism hurt Hungary a lot, and a transition back to some sort of market economy was bound to hurt, too.

    China had it easier, they didn’t really have a command economy, because Maoism was so dysfunctional, they didn’t really suffer when they changed from Maoism to something else (anything else).

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  122. @Corvinus
    "Everybody understands that there are significant biological differences among European ethnic groups. Why wouldn’t there be? You can even spot them by just looking at them, can you tell the difference between a Greek and a Swede?"

    Indeed, the majority of white Americans are quite aware of them, but they do not hold to your antiquated notion of a "European ethnic hierarchy".

    Most Hungarians are aware that a country populated by Swedes will work better than a country populated by Hungarians. For example, around 1990, when some managers of state companies were sent to Sweden to learn, one of them openly remarked that some of their solutions would prove impossible to implement, because Swedes are different (i.e. better). Just a few years ago someone (a Hungarian) casually mentioned to me in a private conversation how the Swedish healthcare system was better than the Hungarian one, and that “it’s only partly the money, in part it’s because it’s operated by Swedes – they would operate our system much better, too”.

    It doesn’t mean Hungarians are unworthy of having a country for themselves, or that Swedes are better in everything (for example, I find Hungarians better companions and friendlier; I also think no Swedish composer matches Bartók), or that our country wouldn’t be a nice place to live in (especially if we didn’t have a legacy of four decades of communism, and so many Gypsies), but obviously there are some things which Swedes excel at and where Hungarians are worse. (Not nearly as bad as, say, Syrians, just worse than Swedes.)

    You need to be stupid or blind or both to be unaware of that.

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    "Most Hungarians are aware that a country populated by Swedes will work better than a country populated by Hungarians."

    But Swedes or Hungarians, when informed by you and/or those on the Alt Right, that there is a "European ethnic pecking order", will assuredly be offended with such arbitrary distinctions.

    "(for example, I find Hungarians better companions and friendlier; I also think no Swedish composer matches Bartók)"

    Which, in the end, are merely personal opinions.

    "but obviously there are some things which Swedes excel at and where Hungarians are worse. (Not nearly as bad as, say, Syrians, just worse than Swedes.)"

    Certainly, one judges individuals or groups separately on specific things based on specific standards they do well or do not do well. When someone says that an entire group, as a whole, is "better" or "worse" from an ETHNIC, not a PERFORMANCE, standpoint, these groups will inevitable not buy into what you are selling.

    Under what criteria set by whom shows demonstrably that certain ethnic groups are overall "superior" than other ethnic groups? Because most white Americans will assuredly take umbrage to your virtue signaling.

  123. @ia

    How do you disentangle the damage they did from the damage the Muslim invaders did?
     
    Ask any sane Hindu who they would prefer. Which schools, railroads, courts, buildings, roads, government, etc., they would rather have, Muslim or British?

    Well said.

    In total, it’s difficult to see where any 3rd world country formerly ruled by Britain is better off without Britain.

    Also recall that sub-Saharan Africa never had any written languages until the Europeans arrived. Not to mention sanitation, healthcare, laws, labor saving machinery, mathematics, on & on it goes.

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    See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ge%27ez_script
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    @reiner Tor
    Hungarians in the 1980s were also aware how incredibly better Austrians lived that time. I remember having been to Austria in 1988. We rented a room in a house of a pensioner couple in a village close to Salzburg, and we were astonished, as if everyone was a millionaire. The pensioner couple certainly seemed as if they had been.

    Living standards under communism are difficult to compare to living standards under capitalism. For example the air in the cities was incredibly polluted, which has mostly been cleared up. The many East German Trabant and Wartburg cars and the many polluting plants and factories contributed to that enormously. The quality of the goods was also usually bad, but some basic foodstuffs (bread, milk, etc.) were subsidized and their quantity was large and quality satisfactory (though there was basically no variety at all, for example I remember in the early 1990s wanting to eat cheese abroad, and not understanding when they asked "what kind of cheese?", I thought all the "special" cheese types were specialties which had to be named, and that Trappist cheese was the generic "cheese". It's still probably the most popular cheese type due to inertia: under communism, it was the most common cheese type, with only very few other types being available at all. (I remember as a child I thought the only other two cheese types were Pálpusztai, a Hungarian cheese, and Emmental - these were the ones we could buy. There was also a third type similar to Camembert, which my father ate often, but I didn't really consider it "real" cheese because it was so different from the other types of cheese then available, though I didn't eat Pálpusztai at all, and it was also a soft cheese.)

    Probably if we'd have kept capitalism all along, we'd be better off now. I'm sure that the transition to capitalism was also costly and incompetently done, but could it have been done much better?

    we’d be better off now.

    But what would the demographics of Hungary be right now had it not been a part of the Soviet bloc? Like some of the western countries filling up with third worlders? Would the culture have been deformed by having SJW-culture-mind rot imposed upon everybody through the educational system? Who knows but in the long run perhaps things worked out better for self-preservation.

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  125. One might hope that the version of islam in Western Europe would become more moderate. But hope is not a plan.

    Modern Saudi-Arabia funded Islam is simply vile. They preach intense hatred of jews, christians, women, children, homosexuals, hindus, atheists, other sects of Islam, and to act on this hatred.

    Modern Islam is not a religion (or at least, to the extent that it is a religion I don’t care). It is an aggressive political philosophy, like Stalinism or Nazism, except that unlike that latter, the trains don’t run on time.

    How many Christian churches are there is Saudi Arabia? Or Egypt, or Pakistan…? Modern Islam is NOT tolerant. The main thing is not spectacular acts of terrorism. The main thing is a thousand daily slights and attacks and insults, a wearing away until women are afraid to show their faces and everyone else leaves…

    And consider this. What is the worst possible thing that you can do to a muslim? Apparently, it is to force them to live in a majority muslim country. By their fruits shall ye know them.

    The day that muslim countries themselves become places that at least muslims do not dread living in, is the day that I speak less harshly of Islam. I’m waiting.

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  126. @Anatoly Karlin

    I have no idea what part of their bodies those people use when considering and implementing immigration of this low quality impossible to absorb human material into developed countries... I have no clue who decided to turn white Canada into some kind of Monkey Zoo. When I am driving along and can barely see European faces among pedestrians.
     
    Very interesting.

    Note that Sergey Krieger wrote this about me in Israel Shamir's thread:

    I notice you are very much concerned with ethnic purity. I guess such people as Alexander Vasiliievich Souvorov, Pushkin, Lermontov, Bagration, Blok and many other would not make it to your list.
     
    While essentially repeating my racist--nazifascist-1488 arguments in anecdotal form here.

    Conclusions:

    (1) Nationalism is correct.

    (2) Even Communists know it, but are too schizophrenic to acknowledge it. :)

    The difference between you and me essentially that you look at some essentially Russian background, find some inorodec among his ancessors and make big deal out of it, when the guy is simply either Russian ass**whole or idiot. I am concerned about allien elements who basically allien to Russian culture, way of thinking, religion and so forth. If one has someone not Russian among his parents, grandparents but essentially behaves, thinks like Russian and share language and culture and outlooks why should I care? He is Russian by all means.

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    ... find some inorodec among his ancessors and make big deal out of it
     
    This sounds like something that needs a citation.

    If uzbek accepts Russian culture, becomes part of it and basically behaves and thinks like Russian it is one thing.
     
    The percentage of Uzbeks who are both willing (why should they? they have their own millennial civilization and culture after all) and capable of Russification is maybe 5%. If not 1%.

    So insisting on their Russification while living in one country with them is equivalent (at best) to cultural genocide.

    In contrast, I merely advocate a wall along the Kazakh steppe. Or a tough visa regime at the very minimum. Much more moderate and humane, actually.

    Nonetheless, it is of course Russian nationalists like myself who are evil hitlerfascistnazi racists.
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    We need more people like you Mr. Saker. May Allah(swt) bless you.

    “And when that happens, they will finally realize that Islam and the Muslims who practice is were never the enemy.”

    Here are some Quranic verses supporting Mr.Saker’s statement;

    “Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians — whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve” (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

    “…and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, ‘We are Christians,’ because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant” (5:82).

    “O you who believe! Be helpers of God — as Jesus the son of Mary said to the Disciples, ‘Who will be my helpers in (the work of) God?’ Said the disciples, ‘We are God’s helpers!’ Then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved. But We gave power to those who believed, against their enemies, and they became the ones that prevailed” (61:14).

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    Here are some Quranic verses supporting Mr.Saker’s statement
     
    Too bad not many Muslims, starting from Muhammad, have supported those verses and have been doing quite the opposite. Either they did not read Quran, or... they knew there's something else in it written.

    It's very easy to cherry-pick "peaceful" verses from the Quran to advocate and whitewash Islam, especially to ignorant kafirs, who have been brainwashed by its elites into guilt and submission; while it's much more difficult to accept, for the Muslims in the first place, that Islam has had a lot of grim sides from its very start like dhimmi and forcible conversions.
  128. Those Europeans who think that they will simply expel all Muslims from Europe or somehow manage to eliminate Islam from Europe are deluded.

    To rebut an argument by calling those who hold it deluded reveals a lack of either evidence or logic in support of one’s position. In fact, to allow millions of Muslims into Europe is to invite the conquest of Europe by an alien civilization, an act either of political imbecility or the vilest treason.

    Islam is not a religion as people in the West understand religion. It is not some wishy-washy good-feeling society like Anglicanism or Unitarianism. It is a civilization committed to territorial expansion and occupation. Moreover, it is a civilization totally incompatible with Western ideas about democracy and the separation of powers.

    Either Western civilization will be overwhelmed and destroyed by Islam or Western nations will realize in time that either the wave of Muslim immigration must be driven back or Islam in the West must be ruthlessly suppressed.

    If that realization occurs, though the outcome may be uncertain, the leadership of necessary violence and determination will emerge. Those who insist on living by rules incompatible with Western civilization may be induced to leave by cash payments, they may be forcibly expelled, or they may be slaughtered. It will be brutal and there is no certainty that Western civilization will survive the struggle. But struggle there will be and the leaders of the struggle will not hesitate to use methods, however brutal, that are believed necessary to success.

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    " It is a civilization committed to territorial expansion and occupation."

    Islamic Spain shows that the assertion is false.
    Richard Fletcher, ‘Moorish Spain’, Berkeley 1992

    The Ottoman empire also was tolerant, as long as each religious group paid taxes, they had autonomy.
    Jason Goodwin, ‘Lords of the Horizons, A History of the Ottoman Empire’, New York, 1999
    Mark Mazower, 'Thessaloniki - stad van geesten, Christenen, moslims en joden 1430 - 1950', 2007, geen plaats van uitgave, (2004, Salonica - City of Ghosts)
    , @Biff
    Snowflake melting.
    , @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    "Islam is not a religion as people in the West understand religion. It is not some wishy-washy good-feeling society like Anglicanism or Unitarianism. It is a civilization committed to territorial expansion and occupation. Moreover, it is a civilization totally incompatible with Western ideas about democracy and the separation of powers."


    Why is that bad?


    Post enlightenment Western norms are broken.
    , @Corvinus
    "If that realization occurs, though the outcome may be uncertain, the leadership of necessary violence and determination will emerge. Those who insist on living by rules incompatible with Western civilization may be induced to leave by cash payments, they may be forcibly expelled, or they may be slaughtered. It will be brutal and there is no certainty that Western civilization will survive the struggle."

    Assuming white Christians will set aside their ideological differences and unite to purge Muslims and non-believers in the best interest of Western Civilization. You always have such grandiose visions but seem to be unwilling to actually carry them out.

    "Moreover, it is a civilization totally incompatible with Western ideas about democracy and the separation of powers."

    You do realize that if your scenario plays out, those leaders in charge of the purge are engaging in actions that run counter to those dear principles you laid out. Hypocrite.
  129. @Joe Levantine
    "You might ask me about those Wahabi crazies who have already murdered many Europeans with screams of “Allahu Akbar” on their lips? Aren’t they bona fide ISIS-types? Well, that is a complicated issue. For example, did you notice the vast majority of these so-called “Islamic” crazies had strong ties to the European security services? That some of them even had traveled to Israel? Doesn’t it seem strange to you that their attacks somehow always seem to be scheduled to coincide with important political events in Europe? Could there have been a genuine ISIS attack in Europe? Yes. But I am pretty sure that most of them were Gladio-style false flags executed by EU or US special services."
    While The Saker is touching a raw nerve, I find it extremely troubling that some commenters still speak of conspiracy theory. Just before the first electoral round of the French presidential election, a so called terrorist event happened in France. It was clear that the powers that be were keen on bettering the chances of Marine Le Pen for the second round as Le Pen would be the safest choice against their pet candidate Mr. Macron. From 9/11 to the Charlie Hebdo to Bataclan to Nice passing through the Boston marathon bombing, there are such repetitive features that it is becoming comic, but none more than the revealing of the identity of the terrorist through the discovery of an ID near the site of the terror event.
    As for all the interesting theories about equality and assimilation, it would best to consult with those who have lived in multicultural societies for centuries such as the Balkan and the Middle East be it in the Levant or in Egypt. All those people have resigned themselves to living with tolerance but I am fairly confident that in the depth of their hearts they would wish to do away with tolerance in favour of living free of the burden.
    The multicultural factor in Europe is a recent phenomenon that was imposed by the masters of discourse be them Zionists or Elitists. The European commoner did not initiate the problem. He or she is simply trying to deal with the consequences.

    in the depth of their hearts they would wish to do away with tolerance in favour of living free of the burden.

    Tolerate – early 16th century (in the sense ‘endure (pain)’): from Latin tolerat- ‘endured,’ from the verb tolerare .

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  130. @Kurt van Ghoye
    Your attempt to call out these shitposters and make them cash their rhetorical cheques in the physical realm has a false ring to it. All metabiological struggles, to riff on the above, have different classes of contender. You rightly pointed out, though mala fide it seems to me, the necessity of physical engagement. Resurgent Europe will have many sneakers on the ground to resist the immivasion in the years to come. Yet it will also have intellectuals working podiums and keyboards, parents reproducing genes and culture and, God willing, a decucked deus vult level priest class burning the corruption out of the European mind(s). I submit that the shitposters and memetic warriors are effective precisely insofar as they provoke the type of dishonest reflex to subvert and discredit their efforts seen above. I don't think they made you tall enough for this ride at Hasbara school. We are right, we are growing, and we are going to take back our nations with as many sneakered shoes and keyboard-callused fingers as it takes. And once we or are heirs are demographically sovereign again, we will turn our attention to the architects and enablers.

    “Your attempt to call out these shitposters and make them cash their rhetorical cheques in the physical realm has a false ring to it.”

    No. These pleasant people have been calling for the heads of Jews, the elites, and globalists. They claim there is an imminent threat, one that has come to fruition over the past two decades.
    The time is now to act.

    “All metabiological struggles, to riff on the above, have different classes of contender. You rightly pointed out, though mala fide it seems to me, the necessity of physical engagement.”

    I point out THEIR belief of this “necessity”.

    “Resurgent Europe will have many sneakers on the ground to resist the immivasion in the years to come.”

    Could have resisters with jackboots.

    “Yet it will also have intellectuals working podiums and keyboards, parents reproducing genes and culture and, God willing, a decucked deus vult level priest class burning the corruption out of the European mind(s).”

    Decucked, cucked, cuckology…all meaningless terms.

    “I submit that the shitposters and memetic warriors are effective precisely insofar as they provoke the type of dishonest reflex to subvert and discredit their efforts seen above. ”

    They do well enough to discredit themselves through their logical fallacies.

    “I don’t think they made you tall enough for this ride at Hasbara school.”

    What is it with this Jewish fetish by those on the Alt Right?

    “We are right, we are growing, and we are going to take back our nations with as many sneakered shoes and keyboard-callused fingers as it takes.”

    First, who is this “we”? Second, how do you know you are “right”? Third, so long as you have those on the Alt Right who insist that certain European whites are “better” than other European whites, i.e. the “natural order of things”, your movement will spin its wheels and go nowhere. Fourth, you do realize that the longer you wait, the more likely that the Jews, elites, and globalists will have so much power and authority that your “rebellion” will be crushed, right?

    “And once we or are heirs are demographically sovereign again, we will turn our attention to the architects and enablers.”

    Would not these “architects and enablers” merely exercising their right of freedom to associate? their exercising of free will? Moreover, what will you do, IF you win against this group, to them? Murder them and their offspring? Would not this approach be best to ensure that they never achieve the same level of power?

    More questions than answers, my friend.

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    @Alden
    What is the source of your statements about White Frenchwomen and blacks?

    There is none anywhere because White French women don't associate with blacks.
    You've never been to France in your life so you don't even have anecdotal evidence.

    Get your mind out of the gutter. Your obsession with the sex lives of people 5,000 miles away is just plain pornographic Bet you type these posts with one hand..

    “What is the source of your statements about White Frenchwomen and blacks?”

    Go on youtube and look at Paris street life. You will lots of white women walking with Negroes.

    Womb colonization is happening on massive scale.

    Also, the State promotes it as the highest good, and white men worship Negroes and act cucky.

    And pop culture and advertising promote womb colonization of white wombs by Negroes.

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  132. It is a fact of life that multicultural societies are the hardest to govern. If we take Belgium as an example, we see how hard for two ethnic groups to make a workable government despite the many similarities between the Flemish and Wallon cultures being both white and European. So one could only speculate about the prospect of mixing not so compatible religions together especially the monotheistic three religions which have little tolerance to each other with each religion claiming a monopoly on the truth.
    Such multicultural societies can coexist under the helm of a very strong and oppressive government that keeps the lid on any potential expolosive trigger. We have all seen the Pre and post Tito Yugoslavia as a case study. Other multicultural societies such as the U.S.A., Canada and Australia are all run by governments who are going beyond the Yugoslav experience to make incompatible elements of society live together by imposing that most inimical pestilence to democracy and free speech Political Correctness. Long before this latest fad, the Americans experienced the bussing crisis were white and black students were forced to mix by forcing them to get schooling at the other side of the town away from their neighbourhoods. Needless to say that this experience was an abject failure.
    So the only solution left to preserve multiculturalism with true democracy is decentralisation the Swiss way. While this solution is not full proof, it has so far worked better than any other. The problem with the European elite is that they insist on mixing multiculturalism with ever deeper centralisation and that is the core of the problem for the average European citizen who never chose multiculturalism but is having to deal with its nefarious effects.

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  133. @reiner Tor
    Most Hungarians are aware that a country populated by Swedes will work better than a country populated by Hungarians. For example, around 1990, when some managers of state companies were sent to Sweden to learn, one of them openly remarked that some of their solutions would prove impossible to implement, because Swedes are different (i.e. better). Just a few years ago someone (a Hungarian) casually mentioned to me in a private conversation how the Swedish healthcare system was better than the Hungarian one, and that "it's only partly the money, in part it's because it's operated by Swedes - they would operate our system much better, too".

    It doesn't mean Hungarians are unworthy of having a country for themselves, or that Swedes are better in everything (for example, I find Hungarians better companions and friendlier; I also think no Swedish composer matches Bartók), or that our country wouldn't be a nice place to live in (especially if we didn't have a legacy of four decades of communism, and so many Gypsies), but obviously there are some things which Swedes excel at and where Hungarians are worse. (Not nearly as bad as, say, Syrians, just worse than Swedes.)

    You need to be stupid or blind or both to be unaware of that.

    “Most Hungarians are aware that a country populated by Swedes will work better than a country populated by Hungarians.”

    But Swedes or Hungarians, when informed by you and/or those on the Alt Right, that there is a “European ethnic pecking order”, will assuredly be offended with such arbitrary distinctions.

    “(for example, I find Hungarians better companions and friendlier; I also think no Swedish composer matches Bartók)”

    Which, in the end, are merely personal opinions.

    “but obviously there are some things which Swedes excel at and where Hungarians are worse. (Not nearly as bad as, say, Syrians, just worse than Swedes.)”

    Certainly, one judges individuals or groups separately on specific things based on specific standards they do well or do not do well. When someone says that an entire group, as a whole, is “better” or “worse” from an ETHNIC, not a PERFORMANCE, standpoint, these groups will inevitable not buy into what you are selling.

    Under what criteria set by whom shows demonstrably that certain ethnic groups are overall “superior” than other ethnic groups? Because most white Americans will assuredly take umbrage to your virtue signaling.

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    European ethnic pecking order

    (...)

    an entire group, as a whole, is “better” or “worse” from an ETHNIC, not a PERFORMANCE, standpoint

    (...)

    certain ethnic groups are overall “superior” than other ethnic group
     
    I never wrote these. I personally don't think that the Swedes are overall better than Hungarians. But if you want to build a well-functioning social democracy, it's way easier with Swedes than with Hungarians. Yet again, they didn't produce a single outstanding composer, except perhaps if we count Sibelius as Swedish.
  134. @jacques sheete
    Question for the Muslim bashers:

    Cui bono?

    It's pretty obvious to me that neither Christians nor Muslims benefit from getting stirred up over one another. I may be hallucinating, but all this crapola regarding Muslims seems to correlate with the rise of the neocons, and I find it suspicious.

    N-grams of the words, "Islam" and "Muslim" can be interesting...

    Also, it's pretty obvious that Muslims, like Putin and North Korea, serve as diversions from the real issues. It should also be obvious that the biggest threat to the health, safety and welfare comes from the ruling classes. (That's a hint.)

    The more that Islam and Muslims, or Iran, or Putin, or N Korea are demonized, the more we should be motivated to ask, "cui bono?"

    The more often that the epithet, "conspiracy theorist" is spewed, the more we should be motivated to ask, "cui bono?"

    or who thinks that they will benefit.

    I would suspect that professional European politicians will not oppose and will actually facilitate this religious invasion because they are terrified of a Middle Eastern boycott of the industry of their respective countries. They’re that sold out.

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    @Alden
    What is the source of your statements about White Frenchwomen and blacks?

    There is none anywhere because White French women don't associate with blacks.
    You've never been to France in your life so you don't even have anecdotal evidence.

    Get your mind out of the gutter. Your obsession with the sex lives of people 5,000 miles away is just plain pornographic Bet you type these posts with one hand..

    It is obvious that blacks are big trouble, but whites men are too admiring of black athletes, and white women got too much junglois feverois. Also, they’ve been colonized by PC virus that says white nations for whites and white wombs for whites are evil concepts.

    Europe went from a homeland to a hostel.

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    @Wally
    Well said.

    In total, it's difficult to see where any 3rd world country formerly ruled by Britain is better off without Britain.

    Also recall that sub-Saharan Africa never had any written languages until the Europeans arrived. Not to mention sanitation, healthcare, laws, labor saving machinery, mathematics, on & on it goes.

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    Ethiopians don't identify themselves as Negroid and I believe have Arabic or Semitic admixture. They were never colonized by Europeans either except very briefly by the Italians in the 1930s. (Although they lost a great battle to the Brits in the I think 1890s). Christian Ethiopians have heroically fought Muslim invasions for centuries but are now being out-bred.
  137. @Assistant Prof
    One thing that many people in these debates fail to notice is that many Muslims in the West leave the fold. While some first generation Muslims double down on their Muslim identity and become more Muslim, equal numbers leave the religion, marry outside, and their children are not raised Muslim. I know plenty of Muslims in the West that have done so. The same is true about all tight-knit religious communities that impose a restrictive lifestyle, such as Mormons, Orthodox Jews, and others. They breed and they breed and they breed, but they lose many of those that they breed to secularism and modernity. The town I live in is full of ex-Mormons, for example. For this reason, I find all notions of "Eurabia" and the looming "Muslim takeover" to be alarmism. That said, I do think that open borders is suicide and the west needs to shut the border, and fast. But once that is done, the situation will take care of itself. There will always be an annoying small minority of hardcore Muslims, but this lifestyle is so unattractive that they always remain a small minority.

    One thing that many people in these debates fail to notice is that many Muslims in the West leave the fold. While some first generation Muslims double down on their Muslim identity and become more Muslim, equal numbers leave the religion, marry outside, and their children are not raised Muslim.

    Fact: Second-generation and third generation Muslims are more radical than the first generation.

    I know plenty of Muslims in the West that have done so.

    The plural of anecdote is not data.

    The same is true about all tight-knit religious communities that impose a restrictive lifestyle, such as Mormons, Orthodox Jews, and others. They breed and they breed and they breed, but they lose many of those that they breed to secularism and modernity.

    Some members of tight-knit religious communities leave the community and become secular (that is, low birthrate) while other member remain in the community (that is, birth rate). So we have two important rates: the rate of abandonment of the community and the birth rate differential between secular ex-members and religious members of the community.

    If the second rate is highest than the first one, the community will increase in percentage with respect to the general population. If the first rate is highest than the second one, the community will decrease in percentage with respect to the general population.

    So what’s the reality? Well, instead of your proof by assertion (“because I say so”) and non-representative samples (“I know plenty of Muslims and ex-Mormons”), I am going to give real data.

    When David Ben Gurion founded the state of Israel, Orthodox Jews were a few hundreds. Now they are a third of the population of Israel and growing. So, clearly, the rate of abandonment is lower than the birth rate differential.

    Orthodox Jews were a minority in America. Starting from 2042, they will be the majority of Jews in USA.

    What about Amish? “The Young Center for Anabaptist and Pietist Studies at Elizabethtown College reports that the population has been doubling every 20 years because of large family sizes and a retention rate of around 90 percent.” (that is, abandonment is 10%) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/17/ageold-amish-experience-a_n_683967.html

    What about Mormons? See here how their population is skyrocketing. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/LDSChurchMembership2015.png/900px-LDSChurchMembership2015.png

    (The population of seculars is not skyrocketing).

    Muslims in Europe are a trickier question because you have to take into account immigration besides reproduction and retention.

    Do you want more accurate scientific studies? Buy the book “Shall the religious inherit the earth?”, written by a secular scientist. It shows that religious are increasing their number in all religions.

    For this reason, I find all notions of “Eurabia” and the looming “Muslim takeover” to be alarmism.

    Yes, this is your opinion. Too bad the facts are against your opinion.

    There will always be an annoying small minority of hardcore Muslims, but this lifestyle is so unattractive that they always remain a small minority.

    Tell this to the Amish. Living like in the 17th century. Terribly unattractive, right? Retention rate of 90% and population skyrocketing.

    Excuse me, but

    a) The things that seem unattractive to you can be attractive for other people.
    b) The Muslims and ex-Mormons you know are not all the Muslim and ex-Mormons in the world.

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  138. @jilles dykstra
    The same in the fomer DDR.
    There hardly anybody was rich, excluding Honecker, but also nobody was poor.

    There hardly anybody was rich, excluding Honecker, but also nobody was poor.

    I don’t know how rich Honecker was, probably nowhere near even a second-rate American CEO these days.

    Anyway, this is not about being rich. Money/consumption isn’t everything. There’s also comradery, community spirit, stability, etc. Most importantly: absence of the constant rat-race, endless worrying about the future.

    Try this: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/homesick-for-a-dictatorship-majority-of-eastern-germans-feel-life-better-under-communism-a-634122.html

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    "In the past there was the Stasi, and today (German Interior Minister Wolfgang) Schäuble -- or the GEZ (the fee collection center of Germany's public broadcasting institutions) -- are collecting information about us."

    I'm reminded of plays Germany now broadcasts situated in the DDR, the DDR as a terrible totalitarian state, and a tv broadcast about a German man who succeeded in smuggling his DDR girlfriend out of the DDR, a false compartment in the back of his Mercedes.
    They had suicide pills with them in case they were caught.
    They at the time of the broadcast stll were together, yet she said she in fact did not want to leave the DDR, she had a pleasant life and job.
    The problem of course was that he did not want to live in the DDR.

    Honecker, he had a large estate with a large mansion for himself.
    In a country were the waiting time for a Trabant was over ten years, he certainly was rich.

    About the present totalitarian west, with more and more thought control, I think it is done far more refined than the DDR did.
  139. @Assistant Prof
    One thing that many people in these debates fail to notice is that many Muslims in the West leave the fold. While some first generation Muslims double down on their Muslim identity and become more Muslim, equal numbers leave the religion, marry outside, and their children are not raised Muslim. I know plenty of Muslims in the West that have done so. The same is true about all tight-knit religious communities that impose a restrictive lifestyle, such as Mormons, Orthodox Jews, and others. They breed and they breed and they breed, but they lose many of those that they breed to secularism and modernity. The town I live in is full of ex-Mormons, for example. For this reason, I find all notions of "Eurabia" and the looming "Muslim takeover" to be alarmism. That said, I do think that open borders is suicide and the west needs to shut the border, and fast. But once that is done, the situation will take care of itself. There will always be an annoying small minority of hardcore Muslims, but this lifestyle is so unattractive that they always remain a small minority.

    Murder, rape, assault, and constant threats against individuals and the host society, those are more than mere “annoyances.”

    Either you are Muslim and lying to us us into further complaecence, or you are fatally naive and Ill-informed about how nonMuslims get treated in Muslim societies and how 25% Muslim eventually becomes 90-100% Muslim through unrelenting force and intimidation.

    Never should have let ANY known or admitted Muslims into any of our countries.

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  140. @rw95
    Agreed for the most part, but can Russian society really be called "functional?"

    Compared to MANY HUNDREDS of large African neighborhoods in American cities – Detroit, south LA, Cleveland, Cincinnati, DC, Baltimore, Newark and Trenton and Camden NJ, Hartford CT, Atlanta, Memphis, Dallas, and many many many more — and Muslim Arab/African neighborhoods in Europe, how many russian cities are equally unsafe and hostile “no-go” areas?

    For every alcoholic or drug addict Russian, how many tens of millions of meth and heroin addicts here in the west are destroying their lives, harming or abandoning their families, endangering or robbing other citizens, etc.?

    It’s not so clear that Russian society is more dysfunctional than Europe and my USA, sad to say.

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  141. @jilles dykstra
    The only reason Islam has become fundamental is due to the Western colonization, what began around 1500.
    Richard Fletcher, ‘Moorish Spain’, Berkeley 1992
    Ibn Battúta, 'Travels in Asia and Africa 1325 - 1354', 1929, 1983, London
    Reuben Levy, 'The social structure of Islam', London, New York, 1931, 1932, 1957, 1971

    I have little doubts that those authors you’ve cited wrote some interesting stuff, but how could it be denied that the modern Saudi or ISIS types would very well mix into any Muslims country, as you say, before 1500. Nothing the so-called fundamentalists are doing that contradicts Islam, or that would not be done in pre-1500 or even pre-1800 Islamic countries. You’re saying about them as of a leftie paradise full of tolerance and social progress. I see here nothing but another example of West blaming. Harmless Islam and innocent Muslims, who did nothing wrong, but then came evil Westerners and broke that idyll. Sickening.

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    Hey Boris,

    but how could it be denied that the modern Saudi or ISIS types would very well mix into any Muslims country, as you say, before 1500
     
    There is little to back this up - and it is easily denied. Based on multiple points:
    1) The Wahhabis revived a anthropomorphic heresy that was dead since the time of the Crusades.
    2) They took issue with the Ash'ari/Maturidi creed which was the defining belief framework for the majority of Muslims and had been for centuries:
    http://seekershub.org/ans-blog/2009/11/19/the-asharis-maturidis-standards-of-mainstream-sunni-beliefs/
    3) They took issue with the four traditional Sunni schools of jurisprudence and broke with consensus on multiple issues.
    4) When they arose from the Najd their actions were denounced by the top scholars from around the world for their takfiri madness and violence; not the least of whom were (possibly the greatest of the later Hanafis) Imam Ibn Abidin (ra) - the Mufti of the Levant - and the Grand Mufti of the Hejaz at the time, Imam Zayni Dahlan (ra). The only exception that I can think of was Mufti Gangohi (ra) from India, but who made his statement based on hearsay and incorrect information of what the Najdis were claiming or doing (quite understandable in the 18th century).
    5) The Ottomans sent an army to defeat them, but the army was turned back. The Egyptians sent a second army that routed the Wahhabis and scattered them. At this point they were broken and quarantined in the Najd area until they were revived with the help of the British.

    To this day, Wahhabis (despite a boatload of funding) are still marginal among the Muslim scholarship. Sure there are some that were respected, like the late Shaykh Albani (ra) who was praised for his work on hadith classification, but even he espoused a very non-political form of Wahhabism.
    "Olidort traces the sociopolitical impact of quietist ideology through a line of Salafi ideologues starting in the mid-20th century with the prominent scholar Muhammad Nasir al-Din al-Albani, and continuing to the present day. Albani and his students have applied a purist and often nonviolent interpretation of Islamic texts to the monumental events witnessed in the modern Middle East, including Arab-Israeli conflict and the ongoing war in Syria."
    https://www.brookings.edu/research/the-politics-of-quietist-salafism/

    Now if the argument is that Daesh's tactics would have found home in some pre-modern Muslim armies like those of Tamerlane, Tatar Khanates, etc. Sure, but they would have also been fine in the armies of the Conquistadors, Ivan the Terrible, Japanese invasion of Manchuria etc. - even the scorched earth policies that France used to pacify Algerian resistance. So this does not distinguish them historically.

    Daesh and their ilk have been denounced by top Muslim scholars all over the world:
    http://www.refutingisis.com/
    http://lettertobaghdadi.com/14/english-v14.pdf

    Hell, even Al-Qaeda denounced them as too extreme:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/al-qaeda-leader-ayman-al-zawahiri-isis-madness-lies-extremism-islamic-state-terrorist-groups-compete-a7526271.html

    Islam never advocated a Left-liberal hippy paradise, nor did it ever advocate a Daesh-style abattoir.

    You recommended a book by Prof. David Cook. Though I have not read him, I have heard him lecture and he seems fairly judicious in his approach with a healthy amount of caution with regards to Islam and the West - being fond of traveling and speakng in the Muslim world (he even lectured in Iran). So I second your reading recommendation and also make another recommendation:
    "To some, jihad is the essence of radical Islamist ideology, a synonym for terrorism, and even proof of Islam's innate violence. To others, jihad means a peaceful, individual, and internal spiritual striving. Bonner, however, shows that those who argue that jihad means only violence or only peace are both wrong...Jihad has regulated relations between Muslims and non-Muslims, in peace as well as in war. And while today's 'jihadists' are in some ways following the 'classical' jihad tradition, they have in other ways completely broken with it."
    http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8280.html

    What surprises me is what you are stating after having read someone like him - I highly doubt these would be Prof. Cook's conclusions.

    Peace.

  142. @anonymous
    There's this idea that westerners have that Islam can be managed by them, that it can be defanged and declawed. This is an illusion. Multicultural tolerance is a western idea, not an Islamic one. The photos of the mosque alongside churches are a snapshot in time that only reflects the balance at that moment. As soon as Muslims gain the upper hand that picture will change drastically. For every mosque erected in a Christian country a church must be built in a Muslim one or else no deal. It's all a one way street, totally unequal. They take and we give.
    Everything is always impossible until it happens. After centuries of living under the thumb of Islam the people of Spain and the Balkans were able to liberate themselves from that slaving rubbish and expelled them. Ideally it'd be best to do so while still in a position of strength but unfortunately people won't learn until they're literally fighting for their lives.

    YOU NAILED IT. Wake up, west, and fight while you can still readily win a safe, civilized future for your offspring on your current territory.

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  143. @Corvinus
    "Hey, look! A real live agent provocateur! They really do exist."

    Hard righties here seem to lament about the machinations of the Jews, or the elites, or the Beltway boys, or whomever boogey is the flavor of the day, state how they are ruining things, and demand that something must be done about it. Yet, it's only words, and rarely actions.

    "We will elect the right people, and you will stop receiving a paycheck."

    Who are these "right" people? And regarding my paycheck, I work for myself. I'm not worried about losing my job and earning no income.

    If you are in fact not a government agent, do you realistically expect someone here to boast about doing or planning to do something violent or otherwise unlawful against Muslims or sellout politicians or whoever else?

    What would be served by that?

    Could that not lead to the investigation and even arrest of the person posting such comments?

    Awaiting your response.

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    "If you are in fact not a government agent, do you realistically expect someone here to boast about doing or planning to do something violent or otherwise unlawful against Muslims or sellout politicians or whoever else?"

    I would expect someone to take direct action when they say there is an imminent threat to our nation from Jews, elites, and globalists.

    I would expect to hear it on the news repeated efforts, nay, daily occurrences, by these fine posters here of their willingness to sacrifice their life for the cause. Just like Anders Breivik.

    "What would be served by that?"

    Saving Western Civilization.

    "Could that not lead to the investigation and even arrest of the person posting such comments?"

    But since there are thousands of your ilk just itching to do something about the scourge of Jews, elites, and globalists, a few people here and there getting busted by the Feds is worth it. The cause is what most matters.
  144. @CanSpeccy

    Those Europeans who think that they will simply expel all Muslims from Europe or somehow manage to eliminate Islam from Europe are deluded.
     
    To rebut an argument by calling those who hold it deluded reveals a lack of either evidence or logic in support of one's position. In fact, to allow millions of Muslims into Europe is to invite the conquest of Europe by an alien civilization, an act either of political imbecility or the vilest treason.

    Islam is not a religion as people in the West understand religion. It is not some wishy-washy good-feeling society like Anglicanism or Unitarianism. It is a civilization committed to territorial expansion and occupation. Moreover, it is a civilization totally incompatible with Western ideas about democracy and the separation of powers.

    Either Western civilization will be overwhelmed and destroyed by Islam or Western nations will realize in time that either the wave of Muslim immigration must be driven back or Islam in the West must be ruthlessly suppressed.

    If that realization occurs, though the outcome may be uncertain, the leadership of necessary violence and determination will emerge. Those who insist on living by rules incompatible with Western civilization may be induced to leave by cash payments, they may be forcibly expelled, or they may be slaughtered. It will be brutal and there is no certainty that Western civilization will survive the struggle. But struggle there will be and the leaders of the struggle will not hesitate to use methods, however brutal, that are believed necessary to success.

    ” It is a civilization committed to territorial expansion and occupation.”

    Islamic Spain shows that the assertion is false.
    Richard Fletcher, ‘Moorish Spain’, Berkeley 1992

    The Ottoman empire also was tolerant, as long as each religious group paid taxes, they had autonomy.
    Jason Goodwin, ‘Lords of the Horizons, A History of the Ottoman Empire’, New York, 1999
    Mark Mazower, ‘Thessaloniki – stad van geesten, Christenen, moslims en joden 1430 – 1950′, 2007, geen plaats van uitgave, (2004, Salonica – City of Ghosts)

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    " 'It is a civilization committed to territorial expansion and occupation.'

    Islamic Spain shows that the assertion is false.
    Richard Fletcher, ‘Moorish Spain’, Berkeley 1992"

    So, you are saying that they are not committed to territorial expansion and occupation based on a country they performed a territorial expansion into and then occupied? Not too bright.

    "The Ottoman empire also was tolerant, as long as each religious group paid taxes, they had autonomy."

    Apparently, you also exist in some kind of non-linear time dimension. Was the Ottoman empire tolerant while they were invading, killing and pillaging the countries they militarily occupied? And what empire in the entire world has NOT been tolerant as long as the defeated country paid their taxes? The autonomy you think they allowed for their conquered countries only existed as long as they did what they were told. You might want to lookup the Janissaries. I'm sure even you would think their kidnapping as children did not correspond to autonomy.

  145. @annamaria
    "How would Kadryov react if Putin wanted to settle thousands of Christians in Chechnya?"
    Why? Please take a look at Russian geography and the data on the density of population in Russian Federation.

    Really wish that the Russians were having many more children – enough to thoroughly conquer, eliminate, or deport Muslim populations from Chechnya, Dagestan, and the rest of the Caucasus. In other words, it would be better for Russians and for the west if Russians had both the numbers and the will to make the Caucasus truly their own and eradicate the Islamic sickness from their midst and from their borders.

    But Russia certainly lacks the population to do that, and it seems highly unlikely that their population of ethnic Russians will grow much, let alone to make real colonization of the south possible.

    As for what Kadyrov and other Islamic sickos would do if Russia collapsed or became unable to project commanding force and offer substantial subsidies to Chechnya, I wouldn’t want to be a nonMuslim there when that happens….

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    But Russia certainly lacks the population to do that, and it seems highly unlikely that their population of ethnic Russians will grow much, let alone to make real colonization of the south possible.
     
    Actually Russians do not need much manpower to implement anything. The only thing they need is willpower and the good rulers. The proportion of (Great) Russians within the current Russian Federation has been stable for the past 300 years, around 80%, and around 50% within the FSU/RE, yet Russians have managed to do a lot of things seemed impossible.
  146. @Kurt van Ghoye
    Asking as a fan of both your articles and Stefan's show, what's your beef with him?

    Stefan Molyneux is not an honest person. He’s a shill, a disinfo agent. The purpose of what he does is to bolster synthetic narratives and synthetic events.

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  147. @annamaria
    "Islamic war is obligatory."
    Is this an opinion of Israel-firsters? You surely have historical evidence under your sleeve to support the statement.

    I know a very good book about it:
    “Understanding Jihad” by David Cook
    Mustread for everybody.

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  148. @Mao Cheng Ji

    There hardly anybody was rich, excluding Honecker, but also nobody was poor.
     
    I don't know how rich Honecker was, probably nowhere near even a second-rate American CEO these days.

    Anyway, this is not about being rich. Money/consumption isn't everything. There's also comradery, community spirit, stability, etc. Most importantly: absence of the constant rat-race, endless worrying about the future.

    Try this: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/homesick-for-a-dictatorship-majority-of-eastern-germans-feel-life-better-under-communism-a-634122.html

    “In the past there was the Stasi, and today (German Interior Minister Wolfgang) Schäuble — or the GEZ (the fee collection center of Germany’s public broadcasting institutions) — are collecting information about us.”

    I’m reminded of plays Germany now broadcasts situated in the DDR, the DDR as a terrible totalitarian state, and a tv broadcast about a German man who succeeded in smuggling his DDR girlfriend out of the DDR, a false compartment in the back of his Mercedes.
    They had suicide pills with them in case they were caught.
    They at the time of the broadcast stll were together, yet she said she in fact did not want to leave the DDR, she had a pleasant life and job.
    The problem of course was that he did not want to live in the DDR.

    Honecker, he had a large estate with a large mansion for himself.
    In a country were the waiting time for a Trabant was over ten years, he certainly was rich.

    About the present totalitarian west, with more and more thought control, I think it is done far more refined than the DDR did.

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    About the present totalitarian west, with more and more thought control, I think it is done far more refined than the DDR did.
     
    I don't think they're doing such a great job these days, but maybe it's just me. Western media feel just as crude and at times even more nauseating than the Soviet kind back in the day.

    What they do have is, obviously, higher volume, and virtually no competition. It's interesting that RT, PressTV and other 'enemy propaganda' do not offer any alternative vision, alternative worldview. They report events ignored by western propaganda and offer a slightly, very slightly different interpretation. IOW, they accept the basic framework, all the basic assumptions imposed by their opponent, and operate within that framework. And that's a losing strategy, imo.

    Imagine 1980s Voice of America talking seriously about Communists ideals while mentioning in passing that Honecker lives in a large house. That's a pathetic excuse for propaganda. The good kind, the kind westerners do, it tells you that you're in hell and paradise is just around the corner.

  149. @CanSpeccy

    Those Europeans who think that they will simply expel all Muslims from Europe or somehow manage to eliminate Islam from Europe are deluded.
     
    To rebut an argument by calling those who hold it deluded reveals a lack of either evidence or logic in support of one's position. In fact, to allow millions of Muslims into Europe is to invite the conquest of Europe by an alien civilization, an act either of political imbecility or the vilest treason.

    Islam is not a religion as people in the West understand religion. It is not some wishy-washy good-feeling society like Anglicanism or Unitarianism. It is a civilization committed to territorial expansion and occupation. Moreover, it is a civilization totally incompatible with Western ideas about democracy and the separation of powers.

    Either Western civilization will be overwhelmed and destroyed by Islam or Western nations will realize in time that either the wave of Muslim immigration must be driven back or Islam in the West must be ruthlessly suppressed.

    If that realization occurs, though the outcome may be uncertain, the leadership of necessary violence and determination will emerge. Those who insist on living by rules incompatible with Western civilization may be induced to leave by cash payments, they may be forcibly expelled, or they may be slaughtered. It will be brutal and there is no certainty that Western civilization will survive the struggle. But struggle there will be and the leaders of the struggle will not hesitate to use methods, however brutal, that are believed necessary to success.

    Snowflake melting.

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  150. @Anonymous
    We need more people like you Mr. Saker. May Allah(swt) bless you.


    "And when that happens, they will finally realize that Islam and the Muslims who practice is were never the enemy."

    Here are some Quranic verses supporting Mr.Saker's statement;

    "Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians -- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

    "...and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, 'We are Christians,' because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" (5:82).

    "O you who believe! Be helpers of God -- as Jesus the son of Mary said to the Disciples, 'Who will be my helpers in (the work of) God?' Said the disciples, 'We are God's helpers!' Then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved. But We gave power to those who believed, against their enemies, and they became the ones that prevailed" (61:14).

    Here are some Quranic verses supporting Mr.Saker’s statement

    Too bad not many Muslims, starting from Muhammad, have supported those verses and have been doing quite the opposite. Either they did not read Quran, or… they knew there’s something else in it written.

    It’s very easy to cherry-pick “peaceful” verses from the Quran to advocate and whitewash Islam, especially to ignorant kafirs, who have been brainwashed by its elites into guilt and submission; while it’s much more difficult to accept, for the Muslims in the first place, that Islam has had a lot of grim sides from its very start like dhimmi and forcible conversions.

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  151. @Anon
    See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ge%27ez_script

    Ethiopians don’t identify themselves as Negroid and I believe have Arabic or Semitic admixture. They were never colonized by Europeans either except very briefly by the Italians in the 1930s. (Although they lost a great battle to the Brits in the I think 1890s). Christian Ethiopians have heroically fought Muslim invasions for centuries but are now being out-bred.

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  152. The Saker is right about this one. It is time for us Reactionaries to achieve detente with western Muslims.

    Things we agree with Muslims on:
    1. No more wars in Islamic countries
    2. No more gay pride
    3. No more Feminism

    Even Sharia Law in Muslim areas is good for us because it strengthens local control at the expense of central governments.

    The only thing we disagree with Muslims on is immigration. I say that we just agree to disagree on that issue. Just because we don’t let any more Muslims in doesn’t mean we can’t work with the Muslims that are already here. Muslims are very practical people and will still be willing to work with us even if we shut the doors to future Islamic immigration.

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  153. @m62man
    "Islamic war is obligatory."

    If this is true they haven't fulfilled their obligations too well over the last 1500 years have they?
    I think the only country constantly at war throughout its existence more or less is the USA compared to which muslims are a failure.
    This is a muslim site advising muslims about jihad. Are they fooling each other?


    https://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/1360/is-jihad-obligatory-for-all-muslims

    Yes, Muslism lie, mislead dissimulate and underplay the role conquest plays in that religion. The exemplar for the life of all Muslims for all time is Mohammed. You think Muslim Countries are overwhelmingly Islamic because of the beauty of the religion? Appallingly naive. Not only is he the paragon of virtue, the example of his life is that which is to be imitated.

    The “Koranic Concept of War” as Brigadier General Malik makes clear, is far different from what you appear to believe. Jihad does not end. It is a constant struggle. As for the question of whether it is obligatory to join in violent struggle, 4:89 makes it quite clear. Those who do not join must be shunned, killed where they are found, except in the condition that they emigrate in the cause.

    More than naifs about doctrines, history and eschatology, westerners have appallingly limited concepts about biology. This I attribute to the inexcusably widespread ignorance of darwinian principles. People live their lives as though the extent of life is delineated by the span of their own existence. They seem blissfully unaware of that the incremental effects of differential reproduction are revolutionary in the long process of time. This short sighted confidence in tactical reassurances is emblematic, in my view, of the profound myopia that is our fatal affliction.

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  154. @ia

    How do you disentangle the damage they did from the damage the Muslim invaders did?
     
    Ask any sane Hindu who they would prefer. Which schools, railroads, courts, buildings, roads, government, etc., they would rather have, Muslim or British?

    You must not know much history of India. The British built no schools for the Indian public. They built some very exclusive ones to train (some) Indians to be clerks for the British Indian bureaucracy, to act as mediators between the white sahibs and the masses.

    All the other stuff you talk about: the British built some, but exclusively to serve the British themselves and a small section of the Indian elite; the goal was to extract revenue from India, not to provide public services. Only when the British left India and the natives ascended to government did infrastructure building start in overdrive.

    When the British encountered India, the latter produced about the quarter of the world’s GDP. After a century and a half of British rule in the early 1900s, India’s share of world GDP had fallen to 3% or so. Some rule! Enough said!

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    When the British encountered India, the latter produced about the quarter of the world’s GDP.
     
    LOL. How in hell did you come up with that?

    Nobody's saying the British were angels. Nobody wants to be colonized. My question concerned which is the lesser of two evils.
  155. @woodNfish

    Racism is the historical phenomenon of creation of racial hierarchies in multi-racial societies.
     
    If that is true, how do you explain Japanese racism ? Japan is a very homogeneous society, and they if they allow any immigration, it is very little. Smart folks those Japanese.

    Racism (indeed, a Western concept, as you point out) was the outgrowth of pseudo-scientific theories about races being strictly inferior or superior to each other, and the desire of the more powerful race (white people in this case) to not be “polluted” by their so-called inferiors.
     
    Again I refer you to the Japanese as an example. They think every other race is inferior to them. It is not a Western concept. What is a Western concept is defining racism as bad. As I wrote, it is simple human desire to be with one's own kind. While there is some tolerance to small numbers of outsiders, tensions grow much larger as larger disparate groups of people are forced together. It is why we have China Towns, Italian neighborhoods like Boston's North End, etc. There is nothing bad about groups of people wanting to be with their own kind, what is bad is government or any other entity trying to force people together when the people have no desire to merge.

    The Japanese had a traumatic encounter with European power in the middle of the 19th century, and then (being smart people) decided to get ahead themselves by closely observing Europeans (and colonials and Americans….) and trying to emulate them as best as they could. European settlers practiced racism. Europeans colonizing other countries (India, SE Asia, N. Africa) practiced racism. Mid-19th century was also the period when scientific racism was peaking, so Japan, which wanted to ascend the food chain, thought it needed its own “ni…..rs” to kick around. So they picked miscellaneous East Asians (starting with the Koreans, then moving on to the Chinese….until Hiroshima and Nagasaki came to bite them in their rears.)

    People living in their own country tend to be a conservative bunch, and “prefer their own” (I agree with you there.) But only whites have practiced racism when they have migrated abroad, so I will treat them as unique in that respect. There is a substantial Japanese diaspora in South American countries like Peru and Brazil; I have no information to suggest that they are especially racist towards people other races there; to the contrary, they seem to blend so well that the Japanese in the motherland consider them to be aliens.

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    "People living in their own country tend to be a conservative bunch, and “prefer their own” (I agree with you there.) But only whites have practiced racism when they have migrated abroad, so I will treat them as unique in that respect. There is a substantial Japanese diaspora in South American countries like Peru and Brazil; I have no information to suggest that they are especially racist towards people other races there; to the contrary, they seem to blend so well that the Japanese in the motherland consider them to be aliens."

    Your reasoning is one-dimensional and faulty. Are you saying the Assyrians didn't practice racism when they "migrated abroad"? Do you not grasp the difference between military conquest and migration? The Japanese practiced what you foolishly would call "racism" when they invaded every country they occupied in WWII. Just like the British in India, or the Aztecs in Mexico, they viewed their own nation as the group they existed within and performed any actions based on how it benefited their "race". And as far as the Japanese in South America, they did not invade. They "migrated". They were in the minority and probably actually viewed the host population as inferior. But, the Japanese are herd animals and will cooperate for the good of the entire organism. Just like Whites today. Do you think that on those minuscule occasions that a White migrates to a non-White country they practice what you consider "racism"? You are comparing apples to oranges and coming up with fig preserves.
    , @RodW
    I think you're taking too short a view of Japanese history there. Since prehistory, there have been invasions of Japan from the mainland, and counter invasions of the mainland from Japan, which have nothing to do with European imperialism. The Japanese still treasure the memory of the defeat of the Mongol invasion attempt. And I believe their 20th Century imperialism was more to do with Lebensraum, resources and establishing a perimeter against invasion than wanting coolies to kick around, but it's on record that they took some pleasure in that too.

    Now Japan faces invasion by muslims. They're trying to bring them in for social work and tourism, neither of which is a good idea.

    Most of the muslims coming to Japan seem to be from Indonesia and they give the lie to the oft-repeated claim that Indonesia's muslims are 'more' liberal. All of their muslim habits are part of jihad, even if they don't realize or acknowledge it. Put one muslim in the midst of normal people and immediately the normal people are being pestered to make allowances of the muslim. Normal greetings like handshakes are rejected. The normal people are required to list all the ingredients of the food and drink offered, and cool their heels while the muslim does his endless prostrations. They're often subjected to homilies about the meaning of this crap. Immediately, the normal people are put in the position of either submitting to all of this, or bluntly rejecting it. Common courtesy often means that the muslim gets away with it and is encouraged to repeat the insidious performance with more conviction in future. The women are even worse than the men because they wear an obvious symbol of their cult wrapped around their heads, and it often presents another opportunity for a thoroughly disingenuous homily. It takes determination and a willingness to cause bad feeling to refuse to hear it. The more muslims you have around, the more you have to suffer this.

    I hope the Japanese wake up before too much harm is done.
    , @jilles dykstra
    Correct
    Yukichi Fukuzawa, 'De poorten gaan open', 1978 Amsterdam (The Autobiography of Fukuzawa Yukichi, Tokyo 1934, 1899)
  156. I submit that neither Muslim immigrants nor Islam itself will ever leave Europe: like it or not, they are here to stay. Why?

    Why? It is death. There is no Charles Martel with his mighty Hammer.

    Many Japanese captains ran pirate crews in closed-state days, many crewmen from now islamic places, they are only recently so.

    Indonesia, now, semi-officially persecutes Bali, SulawasI, Kalimantan, many other places.

    If there was an empire worth the breaking up, it is that of the Javanese.

    An interesting aside, the Javanese ruling class men are big fans of same-sex sex, one of our more artful (never forget,we did bad but also not, and sometimes very clever) was to set up male brothels。in java

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  157. @RadicalCenter
    Really wish that the Russians were having many more children - enough to thoroughly conquer, eliminate, or deport Muslim populations from Chechnya, Dagestan, and the rest of the Caucasus. In other words, it would be better for Russians and for the west if Russians had both the numbers and the will to make the Caucasus truly their own and eradicate the Islamic sickness from their midst and from their borders.

    But Russia certainly lacks the population to do that, and it seems highly unlikely that their population of ethnic Russians will grow much, let alone to make real colonization of the south possible.

    As for what Kadyrov and other Islamic sickos would do if Russia collapsed or became unable to project commanding force and offer substantial subsidies to Chechnya, I wouldn't want to be a nonMuslim there when that happens....

    But Russia certainly lacks the population to do that, and it seems highly unlikely that their population of ethnic Russians will grow much, let alone to make real colonization of the south possible.

    Actually Russians do not need much manpower to implement anything. The only thing they need is willpower and the good rulers. The proportion of (Great) Russians within the current Russian Federation has been stable for the past 300 years, around 80%, and around 50% within the FSU/RE, yet Russians have managed to do a lot of things seemed impossible.

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  158. @Sergey Krieger
    The difference between you and me essentially that you look at some essentially Russian background, find some inorodec among his ancessors and make big deal out of it, when the guy is simply either Russian ass**whole or idiot. I am concerned about allien elements who basically allien to Russian culture, way of thinking, religion and so forth. If one has someone not Russian among his parents, grandparents but essentially behaves, thinks like Russian and share language and culture and outlooks why should I care? He is Russian by all means.

    … find some inorodec among his ancessors and make big deal out of it

    This sounds like something that needs a citation.

    If uzbek accepts Russian culture, becomes part of it and basically behaves and thinks like Russian it is one thing.

    The percentage of Uzbeks who are both willing (why should they? they have their own millennial civilization and culture after all) and capable of Russification is maybe 5%. If not 1%.

    So insisting on their Russification while living in one country with them is equivalent (at best) to cultural genocide.

    In contrast, I merely advocate a wall along the Kazakh steppe. Or a tough visa regime at the very minimum. Much more moderate and humane, actually.

    Nonetheless, it is of course Russian nationalists like myself who are evil hitlerfascistnazi racists.

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    Russiffied Uzbeks are so rare I have seen probably 3 in my life and my dad had one under his command.
    I am just saying. What I mean, there is no need to dig ethnic background of those who are already Russians by all other means. IMHO, all former Central Asian republics should lose their no visa status. In Soviet times we rarely could see them beyond their native places because propiska was in place... Worked like a charm.
    The main issue however is birth rates of Russian population. Unfortunately I see no chance of serious reversal under current capitalist system. To reverse the trend and move forward I suspect average of at least 3 kids per family should be sustained for decades.
    This is strategic issue of Russian national survival.
    , @A.A.

    The percentage of Uzbeks who are both willing (why should they? they have their own millennial civilization and culture after all) and capable of Russification is maybe 5%. If not 1%.
     
    Wait, are you talking about Uzbek migrants who grew up in Uzbekistan or their future children who'll grow up in Russia? I'm very much in favour of limiting Central Asian migration to Russia, but it seems silly to suggest that only 1 to 5% of second generation migrants will end up getting Russified. I'm not prepared to make projections about the percentage of those that will (nearly) assimilate, but it will surely be greater than 5%.

    Reminds me of a paper I've seen that focused on Central Asian migrants and their children in St Petersburg. Where various respondents for instance remarked about the fact their children who were growing up in Russia refused to speak the native language of their parents at home, etc. Here are a couple of quotes I'll also translate to English.

    Интервьюер обращается к семилетней дочке респондента: "И.: а ты считаешь себя россиянкой? Ты россиянка? Респондент: Ты узбечка или русская? Дочка респондента: Русская. Интервьюер: Русская, серьезно?" (ПМА: информант №2, приехал 9 лет назад, дочка родилась в Санкт-Петербурге).

    Interviewer to the 7-year old daughter of the respondent:

    "I: Do you consider yourself a Russian national? Are you a Russian national?

    Respondent: Are you Uzbek or ethnic Russian?

    Daughter of the respondent: ethnic Russian.

    Interviewer: ethnic Russian, seriously?" (Informant №2, arrived 9 years ago, daughter was born in St Petersburg)

    «Я хочу, чтобы он общался и с местными, и со своими земляками. Чтобы и с ними, и с ними. Не хочу, чтобы у него было такое деление: наши, не наши. Но у него разделение есть. Он ещё хочет больше с русскими общаться. Он мне постоянно говорит: «Я русский, я хочу быть русским» (ПМА: информант №8 про сына 7 лет).

    I want him to socialise with both the locals and his compatriots. I don't want him to make that distinction, ours and not ours. But he has that distinction. He wants to socialise with Russians even more. He constantly tells me: "I'm Russian, I want to be Russian" (Informant №8 about his 7 year old son).

    https://www.hse.ru/mirror/pubs/lib/data/access/ram/ticket/64/1494251994eb3483df33e0e1a46588664c1bd3ab95/117_134_AkifyevaFINAL.pdf

    Again, I'm not trying to paint a rosy picture and suggest that everything will automatically turn out great. Far from it. And obviously the first generation of migrants straight from Uzbekistan and Tajikistan come from a very different culture. But it seems strange to suggest that the next generation that will grow up in Russia and go to Russian schools will be pretty much untouched by assimilation.
  159. @anarchyst
    Islam is not just a "religion", but is an all-encompassing foreign social and political system that governs all aspect of every moslem's life. As such, NO Constitutional "First Amendment" protections need be afforded this foreign political system and their adherents. In fact, ALL moslems who hold American citizenship should be required to (re)affirm their loyalty to the United States.

    The only way for Islam to "reform itself" is to separate the spiritual aspect of the "religion" from the social and political part. Christianity did just that, hundreds of years ago... It is long overdue for Islam to reform itself--if it can...

    Islam is actually an arabicized version of judaism. Both the talmud and the koran have virtually identical passages in which the “supremacy” of each respective group is proclaimed. Both texts declare that non-believers are “less than human” and are to be used for the advantage of each respective cult. You can bet that, if push came to shove, jews would align with the muslims as they are of the same cloth.

    Add to that, ALL dual-citizenship should be abolished. There is no room in the United States for those who hold "dual-citizenship". One cannot have split loyalties...split loyalties have contributed to our present situation.

    There is another "group" of dual-citizenship" types that deserve strict scrutiny. There are approximately 40 or so congresscritters who hold dual-citizenship with a "certain little country" in the middle east. In fact, many of these congresscritters are given all-expenses paid "vacations" to this "certain little country" as a "reward" for doing that country's bidding. There are THOUSANDS of high-level federal "policy wonks" and government employees who also hold dual-citizenship with that "certain little country". It is reasonable to question who they really work for--the USA or "that certain other country".

    It was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of that "certain little country" in the middle east...just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States...they should renounce their United States citizenship and deport themselves to that "certain little country" in the middle east...

    You’re right that we absolutely must prohibit dual citizenship.

    Anyone who applies for a US passport, citizenship, permanent residency, voting registration, or a government job, should be required to affirmatively renounce all foreign citizenship in writing and in person, both under oath and penalty of perjury. Our government should research and investigate to get written confirmation from the home country that the immigrant has renounced their citizenship.

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    Dual citizenship was prohibited until 1968 until a naturalized United State citizen sued so that he could vote in his former country's election. The courts ruled in his favor.
    This one act opened up the door for dual citizenship with Israel...bad move for the USA.
    Regards,
  160. @RadicalCenter
    If you are in fact not a government agent, do you realistically expect someone here to boast about doing or planning to do something violent or otherwise unlawful against Muslims or sellout politicians or whoever else?

    What would be served by that?

    Could that not lead to the investigation and even arrest of the person posting such comments?

    Awaiting your response.

    “If you are in fact not a government agent, do you realistically expect someone here to boast about doing or planning to do something violent or otherwise unlawful against Muslims or sellout politicians or whoever else?”

    I would expect someone to take direct action when they say there is an imminent threat to our nation from Jews, elites, and globalists.

    I would expect to hear it on the news repeated efforts, nay, daily occurrences, by these fine posters here of their willingness to sacrifice their life for the cause. Just like Anders Breivik.

    “What would be served by that?”

    Saving Western Civilization.

    “Could that not lead to the investigation and even arrest of the person posting such comments?”

    But since there are thousands of your ilk just itching to do something about the scourge of Jews, elites, and globalists, a few people here and there getting busted by the Feds is worth it. The cause is what most matters.

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  161. @RadicalCenter
    You're right that we absolutely must prohibit dual citizenship.

    Anyone who applies for a US passport, citizenship, permanent residency, voting registration, or a government job, should be required to affirmatively renounce all foreign citizenship in writing and in person, both under oath and penalty of perjury. Our government should research and investigate to get written confirmation from the home country that the immigrant has renounced their citizenship.

    Dual citizenship was prohibited until 1968 until a naturalized United State citizen sued so that he could vote in his former country’s election. The courts ruled in his favor.
    This one act opened up the door for dual citizenship with Israel…bad move for the USA.
    Regards,

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  162. @Numinous
    You must not know much history of India. The British built no schools for the Indian public. They built some very exclusive ones to train (some) Indians to be clerks for the British Indian bureaucracy, to act as mediators between the white sahibs and the masses.

    All the other stuff you talk about: the British built some, but exclusively to serve the British themselves and a small section of the Indian elite; the goal was to extract revenue from India, not to provide public services. Only when the British left India and the natives ascended to government did infrastructure building start in overdrive.

    When the British encountered India, the latter produced about the quarter of the world's GDP. After a century and a half of British rule in the early 1900s, India's share of world GDP had fallen to 3% or so. Some rule! Enough said!

    When the British encountered India, the latter produced about the quarter of the world’s GDP.

    LOL. How in hell did you come up with that?

    Nobody’s saying the British were angels. Nobody wants to be colonized. My question concerned which is the lesser of two evils.

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    Common knowledge that India was responsible for much of the world's GDP before the middle ages.
    , @Numinous
    The consensus among economic historians is that India and China had roughly a quarter of the world's GDP each in the early 18th century, China a little more, India a little less. (Of course, that does not mean GDP per capita was the highest in the world too.) That ended because of (1) the Industrial Revolution, which increased productivity in NW Europe and decimated small-scale industry which was the backbone of both India's and China's outputs, and (2) Europeans' (though mainly British) dominance of the Indian Oceas and Chinese seas trade routes meant that they could impose whatever trade agreements they wanted with those countries, those agreements being rigged for British benefit.

    Also, if you scroll back up, my original question was how to disentangle the messes that the British and the Muslim invaders caused. I don't pretend to have an answer, but since British rule came later, is better documented, and we have a roughly clear picture of what India was like pre-British and post-British, it is easier to evaluate their legacy. Of course, they made some positive contributions to India (if the Nazis had ruled Poland long enough, some benefit would have accrued to the Polish people too, but that isn't saying much.)
  163. @jilles dykstra
    " It is a civilization committed to territorial expansion and occupation."

    Islamic Spain shows that the assertion is false.
    Richard Fletcher, ‘Moorish Spain’, Berkeley 1992

    The Ottoman empire also was tolerant, as long as each religious group paid taxes, they had autonomy.
    Jason Goodwin, ‘Lords of the Horizons, A History of the Ottoman Empire’, New York, 1999
    Mark Mazower, 'Thessaloniki - stad van geesten, Christenen, moslims en joden 1430 - 1950', 2007, geen plaats van uitgave, (2004, Salonica - City of Ghosts)

    ” ‘It is a civilization committed to territorial expansion and occupation.’

    Islamic Spain shows that the assertion is false.
    Richard Fletcher, ‘Moorish Spain’, Berkeley 1992″

    So, you are saying that they are not committed to territorial expansion and occupation based on a country they performed a territorial expansion into and then occupied? Not too bright.

    “The Ottoman empire also was tolerant, as long as each religious group paid taxes, they had autonomy.”

    Apparently, you also exist in some kind of non-linear time dimension. Was the Ottoman empire tolerant while they were invading, killing and pillaging the countries they militarily occupied? And what empire in the entire world has NOT been tolerant as long as the defeated country paid their taxes? The autonomy you think they allowed for their conquered countries only existed as long as they did what they were told. You might want to lookup the Janissaries. I’m sure even you would think their kidnapping as children did not correspond to autonomy.

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  164. This seems to be missing the point, no?

    The problem with diversity is not extremism, or that every minority is evil. It is diversity itself. A diverse society with groups that get along, such as where I live, is still far inferior to a homogeneous one.

    You could advocate assimilation, but I doubt Europe has the will to force the kind of assimilation needed to homogenize so many immigrants. They’re the type of people who think a minority that speaks the language and eats the food is fully assimilated. Until that changes, different peoples will find something to fight about, extremism or not.

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  165. @Numinous
    The Japanese had a traumatic encounter with European power in the middle of the 19th century, and then (being smart people) decided to get ahead themselves by closely observing Europeans (and colonials and Americans....) and trying to emulate them as best as they could. European settlers practiced racism. Europeans colonizing other countries (India, SE Asia, N. Africa) practiced racism. Mid-19th century was also the period when scientific racism was peaking, so Japan, which wanted to ascend the food chain, thought it needed its own "ni.....rs" to kick around. So they picked miscellaneous East Asians (starting with the Koreans, then moving on to the Chinese....until Hiroshima and Nagasaki came to bite them in their rears.)

    People living in their own country tend to be a conservative bunch, and "prefer their own" (I agree with you there.) But only whites have practiced racism when they have migrated abroad, so I will treat them as unique in that respect. There is a substantial Japanese diaspora in South American countries like Peru and Brazil; I have no information to suggest that they are especially racist towards people other races there; to the contrary, they seem to blend so well that the Japanese in the motherland consider them to be aliens.

    “People living in their own country tend to be a conservative bunch, and “prefer their own” (I agree with you there.) But only whites have practiced racism when they have migrated abroad, so I will treat them as unique in that respect. There is a substantial Japanese diaspora in South American countries like Peru and Brazil; I have no information to suggest that they are especially racist towards people other races there; to the contrary, they seem to blend so well that the Japanese in the motherland consider them to be aliens.”

    Your reasoning is one-dimensional and faulty. Are you saying the Assyrians didn’t practice racism when they “migrated abroad”? Do you not grasp the difference between military conquest and migration? The Japanese practiced what you foolishly would call “racism” when they invaded every country they occupied in WWII. Just like the British in India, or the Aztecs in Mexico, they viewed their own nation as the group they existed within and performed any actions based on how it benefited their “race”. And as far as the Japanese in South America, they did not invade. They “migrated”. They were in the minority and probably actually viewed the host population as inferior. But, the Japanese are herd animals and will cooperate for the good of the entire organism. Just like Whites today. Do you think that on those minuscule occasions that a White migrates to a non-White country they practice what you consider “racism”? You are comparing apples to oranges and coming up with fig preserves.

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    Whether or not East Asian countries practice racism, I can't think of one that's mindless enough to encourage unlimited immigration with no standards at all. That borders on insanity and makes little logical sense.

    No society can be a free for all; we still live in a world of limited resources and unlimited wants, I mean.

    , @Numinous

    Do you think that on those minuscule occasions that a White migrates to a non-White country they practice what you consider “racism”?
     
    Of course they don't today. Post-1940s liberalism is highly ingrained into the Western mindset now (though maybe it's receding a bit, given the evidence of recent events.) But they most definitely harbored racist views when they migrated during the colonial era. Every country having a European community that wasn't in Europe was a de facto apartheid state, with whites forming the ruling class.

    On forums like these, it's hard to make cogent arguments when the targets keep moving. Whites of bygone eras deserve the criticism directed towards them. Not so today's whites, who are among the most liberal people on the planet. I'm not sure why it's so hard to separate these two for the sake of argument. Is it because of the HBD-dominated ideology prevailing here, which treats people as essentially unchanging but tribes as widely differing?
  166. @Sergey Krieger
    Cancel well fare for all non citizens no exclusion. No food and no shelter. Do not feed wild animals. Make sure that target areas where refugees are coming from aware of this. Shot those who behave violently without hesitation. No rights for them.

    I understand your sentiments. But how about making Cheney & Blair et al’ families pay for alleviating the refugee crisis. Would not it be great to make Wolfowitz (and his whole family), as well as the Obama family, work for minimum wage and pay monetary retributions for the Middle East tragedy. The “deciders” should be punished where it hurts – in their personal fortunes. That would be a good example for those who take national sovereignty lightly. The national sovereignty means the strict enforcement of both immigration laws (viva Le Pen) and international laws (no more “humanitarian” interventions that create slaughter houses on a massive scale). And it is certainly time to establish a new round of Nuremberg Process and to convict the western war criminals who made the Muslims run/swim for their lives to Europe. – The same ziocon idiots have crashed the protection of Europe from sub-Saharan migrants, which the late Gaddaffi used to provide. – The war profiteers (financial sector, mercenary army’ contractors, MIC, mega oil-corporations ) should be taxed to initiate a Marshall plan in those countries that were destroyed by western “elites” for oil, Eretz Israel, power, and money. Then the muslim population of Europe should be induced to go back to their restored native lands.

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    • Replies: @Sergey Krieger
    Seeing them hanging and drying up there is a dream, But to get there they have to be defeated the way Nazis was. Considering current situation it is not achievable at the moment. But taking small steps I mentioned is easily done if there is even modest political and population will to get rid of strangers and prevent others form coming.
  167. @Corvinus
    "Most Hungarians are aware that a country populated by Swedes will work better than a country populated by Hungarians."

    But Swedes or Hungarians, when informed by you and/or those on the Alt Right, that there is a "European ethnic pecking order", will assuredly be offended with such arbitrary distinctions.

    "(for example, I find Hungarians better companions and friendlier; I also think no Swedish composer matches Bartók)"

    Which, in the end, are merely personal opinions.

    "but obviously there are some things which Swedes excel at and where Hungarians are worse. (Not nearly as bad as, say, Syrians, just worse than Swedes.)"

    Certainly, one judges individuals or groups separately on specific things based on specific standards they do well or do not do well. When someone says that an entire group, as a whole, is "better" or "worse" from an ETHNIC, not a PERFORMANCE, standpoint, these groups will inevitable not buy into what you are selling.

    Under what criteria set by whom shows demonstrably that certain ethnic groups are overall "superior" than other ethnic groups? Because most white Americans will assuredly take umbrage to your virtue signaling.

    European ethnic pecking order

    (…)

    an entire group, as a whole, is “better” or “worse” from an ETHNIC, not a PERFORMANCE, standpoint

    (…)

    certain ethnic groups are overall “superior” than other ethnic group

    I never wrote these. I personally don’t think that the Swedes are overall better than Hungarians. But if you want to build a well-functioning social democracy, it’s way easier with Swedes than with Hungarians. Yet again, they didn’t produce a single outstanding composer, except perhaps if we count Sibelius as Swedish.

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    "I never wrote these."

    Indeed, but your position lends itself to the positions taken by the Alt Right. So, from your perspective, is there this "European pecking order"? Is one European group is overall superior than another? Is there a list of from most to least desirable Europeans? If yes, what are the criteria involved? How does one objectively employ those standards?

    "I personally don’t think that the Swedes are overall better than Hungarians."

    But are the English better than the Swedes? Where do the Hungarians compare with the Greeks? What about Italians to Germans?

    "But if you want to build a well-functioning social democracy, it’s way easier with Swedes than with Hungarians. Yet again, they didn’t produce a single outstanding composer, except perhaps if we count Sibelius as Swedish."

    So, one group is "better" at forming a government, and another group is "better" at composing music. Great. The question remains...is there this "European pecking order" as touted by some on the Alt Right?
  168. Thanks for the great article Mr. Saker. Hopefully Russia can carve out a new path and an example being, as you have pointed out, having a unique history and relationship between the East and the West and the Christian and Muslim. There seem to be elements on both sides absolutely itching for a climactic fight, I really do hope cooler heads will prevail.

    Also, very impressed by Kadyrov’s attempts to talk sense to the extremists. This was also done by Ibn Abbas (ra) who debated the first takfiris (the Khawarij). And many of them actually left the battlefield due to his points. The rest of them were simply too die-hard, as many seem to be nowadays, and would only relent under sword and spear. Glad to hear it is still working, even if marginally, today.

    Peace.

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  169. : You previously wrote this:

    “The percentage of Uzbeks who are both willing (why should they? they have their own millennial civilization and culture after all) and capable of Russification is maybe 5%. If not 1%.

    So insisting on their Russification while living in one country with them is equivalent (at best) to cultural genocide.”

    However, I have a question for you–by your own logic, wouldn’t policies which you yourself have advocated likewise be equivalent to cultural genocide? After all, you have previously expressed support for the idea of forcibly Russifying Ukrainians and Belarusians during the 20th century (as in, if Russia would have had a different, non-Bolshevik government).

    Thus, my question to you is this–why exactly is forcibly Russifying Ukrainians and Belarusians (as was done in the Kuban in the 1930s) acceptable while forcibly Russifying Uzbeks (and presumably other Central Asian and Caucasian peoples) is unacceptable?

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    Thus, my question to you is this–why exactly is forcibly Russifying Ukrainians and Belarusians (as was done in the Kuban in the 1930s) acceptable while forcibly Russifying Uzbeks (and presumably other Central Asian and Caucasian peoples) is unacceptable?
     
    Because Russification of Ukrainians and Belorussians sounds like Germanization of Bavarians and Swabians or Italicization of Neapolitans and Sicilians.

    Ukrainians and Belorussians even do not need to learn standard Russian as they speak practically a dialect and can learn the language in a couple of years in primary school. Practically they've done this already during 19th-20th centuries; of course, back then peasants spoke their own local dialects, but now the absolute majority of Belorussians speak standard Russian as their first language, and at least a half of Ukrainians; the remaining know the language very well. The very same thing has happened all around Europe: in Germany, Italy, France, Britain, etc., where illiterate or semi-literate peasants spoke their dialects and now all they speak the standard language due to universal education and mass media.
    Ukrainians and Belorussians confess the same faith as Russian, they belong to the same racial group and share genetics, they share the same history, they in general share the same mentality and the mindset. Literally assimilation of Ukrainians and Belorussians is the easiest thing possible, practically they do not need to do anything.

    Compare them with Uzbek or any Muslim Central Asians. I hope I do no not need to explain how Central Asians are different from Russians and how they are simply incomparable with Ukrainians/Belorussians.

    After all, you have previously expressed support for the idea of forcibly Russifying Ukrainians and Belorussians during the 20th century (as in, if Russia would have had a different, non-Bolshevik government).
     
    No force needed. There are literally millions of people who were officially considered as Ukrainians by the Soviet authorities, but now they consider themselves Russian. Namely the people in Kuban, but also in many other areas. All of them have lived quite happily, none were forced or harmed.

    On the contrary, the Bolsheviks needed to employ force to convert Little and White Russian peasants into Ukrainians and Belorussian. And in the place outside of the nationalist BelSSR and UkrSSR they met a lot of opposition. When in the 1920s they tried to Ukrainize Kuban and some areas at the border with the UkrSSR, the people there simply refuse it; why, indeed, did they have to be "Ukrainized" and learn Ukrainian when they perfectly and happily could carry on with Russian?
  170. . The West is not Switzerland–that “Alpenflage” country on permanent furlow that’s run by the rich for the rich (and which has a rigged electoral system in which the cantons and a majority of votes must be won for real power). Switzerland votes to relax immigration rules in defiance of anti-Muslim rhetoric, 12 February 2017

    Right now Putin’s Russia is the example of how “it is done”. But the West it too busy demonizing everything “Putin” and supporting anything russophobic, such as the Nazis in the Ukraine, that it simply cannot follow this example. But maybe a new generation of European politicians will.

    Putin-supporters prefer Muslims to Ukrainians, and think we should too. Of course Russia is invulnerable to third world immigration because no one in their right mind would go to Moscow if they could live in London or even Berlin. Putin’s campaign in Syria gave us hundreds of thousands of Muslim refugees for the European heartland (plus Africans ect coming in through the door the Syrians’ refugees opened) . One day Europeans will find a way to thank Russians for their unreturnable gift, and that will be a day they will never forget

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    Of course Russia is invulnerable to third world immigration because no one in their right mind would go to Moscow if they could live in London or even Berlin.
     
    10 to 20 million Muslim immigrants from Central Asia and Transcaucasia living in Russia disagree with you. You seem to know nothing about the things you are trying to speak.
  171. @KenH
    The Saker discredits his own arguments in the last several paragraphs in recounting the bloody disputes between Christians and non-Takfiri Muslims in Kazan. Saker posits that non-Takfiri Muslims are wondrous and non-violent but if this is true then why have they periodically clashed violently with the Christians in Kazan?

    The Muslims in Bosnia were some of the most liberal (and fair skinned) on the planet yet they, too, answered the call to jihadism against the Christian Serbs and other kaffirs after they attained a plurality in Bosnia and following the dissolution of the communist police state. I realize the history of the Balkans is complicated and the Serbs weren't always angels, but neither were the Muslims despite all the propaganda blaming Milosevic and the Serbs for everything.

    So it isn't as simple as non-Takfiri Muslim = good and Takfiri/Wahabi muzzie = bad. All it takes is Muslims in a sizable enough percentage for conflict to arise. I've read a number of stories where Muslims from the U.K. and Europe who joined ISIS hailed from non-takfiri households and some were living respectable lives, yet they chose jihad.

    Putin played Darwin in Chechnya and naturally selected moderate Muslims by killing all the violent Wahabi types. Ramzan Kadyrov is on a very short leash and likely knows it. How would Kadryov react if Putin wanted to settle thousands of Christians in Chechnya?

    A true test would be if Russia descends into political turmoil and is unable to project power over Chechnya. Then we'll see if Kadyrov is sincere or simply engaging in taqiyya.

    Obvious dissimulation.

    And Putin knows it by the way they treat the commissars.

    Perhaps the Israeli strategy of placing Muslims upclose in various liberal societies to give them a first hand taste of the Jihad agenda is the best way to allow for eventual decisive and definite action against Islam globally.

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  172. @CanSpeccy

    Those Europeans who think that they will simply expel all Muslims from Europe or somehow manage to eliminate Islam from Europe are deluded.
     
    To rebut an argument by calling those who hold it deluded reveals a lack of either evidence or logic in support of one's position. In fact, to allow millions of Muslims into Europe is to invite the conquest of Europe by an alien civilization, an act either of political imbecility or the vilest treason.

    Islam is not a religion as people in the West understand religion. It is not some wishy-washy good-feeling society like Anglicanism or Unitarianism. It is a civilization committed to territorial expansion and occupation. Moreover, it is a civilization totally incompatible with Western ideas about democracy and the separation of powers.

    Either Western civilization will be overwhelmed and destroyed by Islam or Western nations will realize in time that either the wave of Muslim immigration must be driven back or Islam in the West must be ruthlessly suppressed.

    If that realization occurs, though the outcome may be uncertain, the leadership of necessary violence and determination will emerge. Those who insist on living by rules incompatible with Western civilization may be induced to leave by cash payments, they may be forcibly expelled, or they may be slaughtered. It will be brutal and there is no certainty that Western civilization will survive the struggle. But struggle there will be and the leaders of the struggle will not hesitate to use methods, however brutal, that are believed necessary to success.

    “Islam is not a religion as people in the West understand religion. It is not some wishy-washy good-feeling society like Anglicanism or Unitarianism. It is a civilization committed to territorial expansion and occupation. Moreover, it is a civilization totally incompatible with Western ideas about democracy and the separation of powers.”

    Why is that bad?

    Post enlightenment Western norms are broken.

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    “Islam is not a religion as people in the West understand religion. It is not some wishy-washy good-feeling society like Anglicanism or Unitarianism. It is a civilization committed to territorial expansion and occupation. Moreover, it is a civilization totally incompatible with Western ideas about democracy and the separation of powers.”

    Why is that bad?
     
    Why is what bad?

    Nothing bad about Muslims being Muslim in countries occupied only by Muslims.

    What's very bad is for Muslims to settle in Western countries where their intolerance of Western civilization creates the liklihood either of the extinction of Western civilization or a civil war in which Muslims are driven from the West.
  173. @Anonymous White Male
    "People living in their own country tend to be a conservative bunch, and “prefer their own” (I agree with you there.) But only whites have practiced racism when they have migrated abroad, so I will treat them as unique in that respect. There is a substantial Japanese diaspora in South American countries like Peru and Brazil; I have no information to suggest that they are especially racist towards people other races there; to the contrary, they seem to blend so well that the Japanese in the motherland consider them to be aliens."

    Your reasoning is one-dimensional and faulty. Are you saying the Assyrians didn't practice racism when they "migrated abroad"? Do you not grasp the difference between military conquest and migration? The Japanese practiced what you foolishly would call "racism" when they invaded every country they occupied in WWII. Just like the British in India, or the Aztecs in Mexico, they viewed their own nation as the group they existed within and performed any actions based on how it benefited their "race". And as far as the Japanese in South America, they did not invade. They "migrated". They were in the minority and probably actually viewed the host population as inferior. But, the Japanese are herd animals and will cooperate for the good of the entire organism. Just like Whites today. Do you think that on those minuscule occasions that a White migrates to a non-White country they practice what you consider "racism"? You are comparing apples to oranges and coming up with fig preserves.

    Whether or not East Asian countries practice racism, I can’t think of one that’s mindless enough to encourage unlimited immigration with no standards at all. That borders on insanity and makes little logical sense.

    No society can be a free for all; we still live in a world of limited resources and unlimited wants, I mean.

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    Whether or not East Asian countries practice racism, I can’t think of one that’s mindless enough to encourage unlimited immigration with no standards at all. That borders on insanity and makes little logical sense.

    No society can be a free for all; we still live in a world of limited resources and unlimited wants, I mean.
     

    Correct. So why are Western nations "mindless enough" to encourage unlimited immigration with no standards at all?

    Not because governments are insane or illogical but because they are run by globalist traitors intent on the destruction of the nation state, and in particular the most powerful states, which until the recent past were the European states.

    The intention of the globo-liberal traitors is to destroy both the racial and cultural identity of the European nations. Once every country has the same homogenized mongrelized population with the same culture, i.e., the gross by-product of the commercial system that has supplanted Western civilization, everything can be run smoothly through global institutions such as the UN, the WTO, NATO, the EU, etc., all headed and run by people easily controlled by bribery or blackmail.

    So the question for the globalists now is when will Russia and China open their doors and accept the destruction of their ancient civilizations?

    , @Peripatetic commenter
    In Mohammed and Charlemagne Revisited: The History of a Controversy the author suggests that Constantine welcomed Christians because of their higher birth rate that citizens of the empire. Sounds familiar.

    I have this theory that if you have a mixed population of whites and Chinese you need a religion that incorporates elements of Buddhism and Christianity in much the same way that Christianity was a fusion of Judaism and Greek Mystery Religions, but is not Judeo-Christian.
  174. But even more importantly, the kind of “Hollywood ISIS-Islam” which I portrayed in the paragraph above is not at all the kind of Islam most Muslims want to live in. In fact, many of them fled their own country precisely to avoid living in a Takfiri “Caliphate”.

    This reminds of the northern liberals who move to Florida or the California liberals who moved to Washington and Colorado. Just because they run from the hells that their kinds created, doesn’t mean they won’t seek to replicate the same hells in their new homelands. They in fact do promote the same policies because that’s all they know and they will never admit to their own failures. Likewise with “moderate” Muslim refugees. Muslim immigration is a disaster for any non-Muslim nation. Nothing good ever comes from it, except an increase in falafel stands, if that’s your sort of thing.

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  175. Kazan can’t be a valid sample for what is about to befall Europe. Tatarstan is a small, landlocked area completely surrounded by Russian lands, and would not survive were it to separate itself from the rest of Russia. If it had an external outlet, Tatars would be far more aggressive.
    In that case, Tatarstan would be more like Turkey (a country it holds as worthy of emulation), which managed – by hook or by crook – to completely eradicate Christianity from what was a completely Christian area. Muslims simply don’t tolerate Christians, their Holy Book commands them not to.
    Islam can’t be allowed to take root in Europe.
    It may be too late, though, and desperate measures may be needed to save Europe.
    Expulsions and conversions must be conducted – and soon.

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    I"t may be too late, though, and desperate measures may be needed to save Europe.
    Expulsions and conversions must be conducted – and soon."

    So when can we expect you to start the process?
  176. @reiner Tor

    European ethnic pecking order

    (...)

    an entire group, as a whole, is “better” or “worse” from an ETHNIC, not a PERFORMANCE, standpoint

    (...)

    certain ethnic groups are overall “superior” than other ethnic group
     
    I never wrote these. I personally don't think that the Swedes are overall better than Hungarians. But if you want to build a well-functioning social democracy, it's way easier with Swedes than with Hungarians. Yet again, they didn't produce a single outstanding composer, except perhaps if we count Sibelius as Swedish.

    “I never wrote these.”

    Indeed, but your position lends itself to the positions taken by the Alt Right. So, from your perspective, is there this “European pecking order”? Is one European group is overall superior than another? Is there a list of from most to least desirable Europeans? If yes, what are the criteria involved? How does one objectively employ those standards?

    “I personally don’t think that the Swedes are overall better than Hungarians.”

    But are the English better than the Swedes? Where do the Hungarians compare with the Greeks? What about Italians to Germans?

    “But if you want to build a well-functioning social democracy, it’s way easier with Swedes than with Hungarians. Yet again, they didn’t produce a single outstanding composer, except perhaps if we count Sibelius as Swedish.”

    So, one group is “better” at forming a government, and another group is “better” at composing music. Great. The question remains…is there this “European pecking order” as touted by some on the Alt Right?

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    • Replies: @This Is Our Home
    Stop being obtuse. Be more perceptive.

    You are demanding a one hundred percent explanation of everything as the only valid response. You are therefore implying that reality is binary. It is not. It is analogue.

    This then leads you to argue against and miss the obvious. That humans cultures are enormously diverse and that the range in achievements and qualities is tremendous. This denial makrs you see nothing. It makes you stupid, and not just in this conversation but in life generally. I imagine your social skills are poor at best as such binary thinking is debilitating.

    And what have you missed about Europeans? I can only give you a snapshot because the short answer is: everything.

    The French are great cooks. The English show great civility. The Germans really are more efficient. The Spanish have great fun.

    The above statements are true. Sure you can pretend that I am saying that all French people are better cooks than the English or you can try to obfuscate the truth in some other pedantic and unproductive manner, but be more perceptive and you will actually be able to understand people more. You may actually like people more, just aso you may be able to dislike people.
  177. @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    "Islam is not a religion as people in the West understand religion. It is not some wishy-washy good-feeling society like Anglicanism or Unitarianism. It is a civilization committed to territorial expansion and occupation. Moreover, it is a civilization totally incompatible with Western ideas about democracy and the separation of powers."


    Why is that bad?


    Post enlightenment Western norms are broken.

    “Islam is not a religion as people in the West understand religion. It is not some wishy-washy good-feeling society like Anglicanism or Unitarianism. It is a civilization committed to territorial expansion and occupation. Moreover, it is a civilization totally incompatible with Western ideas about democracy and the separation of powers.”

    Why is that bad?

    Why is what bad?

    Nothing bad about Muslims being Muslim in countries occupied only by Muslims.

    What’s very bad is for Muslims to settle in Western countries where their intolerance of Western civilization creates the liklihood either of the extinction of Western civilization or a civil war in which Muslims are driven from the West.

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  178. @attonn
    Kazan can't be a valid sample for what is about to befall Europe. Tatarstan is a small, landlocked area completely surrounded by Russian lands, and would not survive were it to separate itself from the rest of Russia. If it had an external outlet, Tatars would be far more aggressive.
    In that case, Tatarstan would be more like Turkey (a country it holds as worthy of emulation), which managed - by hook or by crook - to completely eradicate Christianity from what was a completely Christian area. Muslims simply don't tolerate Christians, their Holy Book commands them not to.
    Islam can't be allowed to take root in Europe.
    It may be too late, though, and desperate measures may be needed to save Europe.
    Expulsions and conversions must be conducted - and soon.

    I”t may be too late, though, and desperate measures may be needed to save Europe.
    Expulsions and conversions must be conducted – and soon.”

    So when can we expect you to start the process?

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    "So when can we expect you to start the process?"

    Who the heck is "we"?
  179. @Daniel Chieh
    Whether or not East Asian countries practice racism, I can't think of one that's mindless enough to encourage unlimited immigration with no standards at all. That borders on insanity and makes little logical sense.

    No society can be a free for all; we still live in a world of limited resources and unlimited wants, I mean.

    Whether or not East Asian countries practice racism, I can’t think of one that’s mindless enough to encourage unlimited immigration with no standards at all. That borders on insanity and makes little logical sense.

    No society can be a free for all; we still live in a world of limited resources and unlimited wants, I mean.

    Correct. So why are Western nations “mindless enough” to encourage unlimited immigration with no standards at all?

    Not because governments are insane or illogical but because they are run by globalist traitors intent on the destruction of the nation state, and in particular the most powerful states, which until the recent past were the European states.

    The intention of the globo-liberal traitors is to destroy both the racial and cultural identity of the European nations. Once every country has the same homogenized mongrelized population with the same culture, i.e., the gross by-product of the commercial system that has supplanted Western civilization, everything can be run smoothly through global institutions such as the UN, the WTO, NATO, the EU, etc., all headed and run by people easily controlled by bribery or blackmail.

    So the question for the globalists now is when will Russia and China open their doors and accept the destruction of their ancient civilizations?

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    • Replies: @Numinous

    So why are Western nations “mindless enough” to encourage unlimited immigration with no standards at all?
     
    Perhaps you intended to be hyperbolic, but regardless, you are way off the mark. If you disregard illegal immigration between Mexico and the US, no Western country allows easy immigration for anyone. It's actually very hard for someone to immigrate to the US or any of the Anglophone countries. Illegal immigration across the US southern border is generally high because of the nature of that border; historically, there was nothing limiting people crossing the border and back, and seasonal laborers did exactly that. Making immigration laws more rigid simply illegalized what until that point has been considered a benign phenomenon.
  180. @CanSpeccy

    Those Europeans who think that they will simply expel all Muslims from Europe or somehow manage to eliminate Islam from Europe are deluded.
     
    To rebut an argument by calling those who hold it deluded reveals a lack of either evidence or logic in support of one's position. In fact, to allow millions of Muslims into Europe is to invite the conquest of Europe by an alien civilization, an act either of political imbecility or the vilest treason.

    Islam is not a religion as people in the West understand religion. It is not some wishy-washy good-feeling society like Anglicanism or Unitarianism. It is a civilization committed to territorial expansion and occupation. Moreover, it is a civilization totally incompatible with Western ideas about democracy and the separation of powers.

    Either Western civilization will be overwhelmed and destroyed by Islam or Western nations will realize in time that either the wave of Muslim immigration must be driven back or Islam in the West must be ruthlessly suppressed.

    If that realization occurs, though the outcome may be uncertain, the leadership of necessary violence and determination will emerge. Those who insist on living by rules incompatible with Western civilization may be induced to leave by cash payments, they may be forcibly expelled, or they may be slaughtered. It will be brutal and there is no certainty that Western civilization will survive the struggle. But struggle there will be and the leaders of the struggle will not hesitate to use methods, however brutal, that are believed necessary to success.

    “If that realization occurs, though the outcome may be uncertain, the leadership of necessary violence and determination will emerge. Those who insist on living by rules incompatible with Western civilization may be induced to leave by cash payments, they may be forcibly expelled, or they may be slaughtered. It will be brutal and there is no certainty that Western civilization will survive the struggle.”

    Assuming white Christians will set aside their ideological differences and unite to purge Muslims and non-believers in the best interest of Western Civilization. You always have such grandiose visions but seem to be unwilling to actually carry them out.

    “Moreover, it is a civilization totally incompatible with Western ideas about democracy and the separation of powers.”

    You do realize that if your scenario plays out, those leaders in charge of the purge are engaging in actions that run counter to those dear principles you laid out. Hypocrite.

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    • Replies: @CanSpeccy

    You always have such grandiose visions but seem to be unwilling to actually carry them out.
     
    Your trouble Corvinus is that you read what you want to believe not what is in front of you eyes. I advocated nothing. I said what I believe will, or at least could, happen. Indeed, I spelled out alternatives. Western submission to Islam or Western expulsion of Islam from in its midst.

    You do realize that if your scenario plays out, those leaders in charge of the purge are engaging in actions that run counter to those dear principles you laid out.
     
    What "dear principles" that I "laid out." None, because I laid out no principles, dear or otherwise. You should take a course in remedial reading.

    And you'd be more bearable if you'd omit the foolish insults.
  181. @Anatoly Karlin

    ... find some inorodec among his ancessors and make big deal out of it
     
    This sounds like something that needs a citation.

    If uzbek accepts Russian culture, becomes part of it and basically behaves and thinks like Russian it is one thing.
     
    The percentage of Uzbeks who are both willing (why should they? they have their own millennial civilization and culture after all) and capable of Russification is maybe 5%. If not 1%.

    So insisting on their Russification while living in one country with them is equivalent (at best) to cultural genocide.

    In contrast, I merely advocate a wall along the Kazakh steppe. Or a tough visa regime at the very minimum. Much more moderate and humane, actually.

    Nonetheless, it is of course Russian nationalists like myself who are evil hitlerfascistnazi racists.

    Russiffied Uzbeks are so rare I have seen probably 3 in my life and my dad had one under his command.
    I am just saying. What I mean, there is no need to dig ethnic background of those who are already Russians by all other means. IMHO, all former Central Asian republics should lose their no visa status. In Soviet times we rarely could see them beyond their native places because propiska was in place… Worked like a charm.
    The main issue however is birth rates of Russian population. Unfortunately I see no chance of serious reversal under current capitalist system. To reverse the trend and move forward I suspect average of at least 3 kids per family should be sustained for decades.
    This is strategic issue of Russian national survival.

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  182. @annamaria
    I understand your sentiments. But how about making Cheney & Blair et al' families pay for alleviating the refugee crisis. Would not it be great to make Wolfowitz (and his whole family), as well as the Obama family, work for minimum wage and pay monetary retributions for the Middle East tragedy. The "deciders" should be punished where it hurts - in their personal fortunes. That would be a good example for those who take national sovereignty lightly. The national sovereignty means the strict enforcement of both immigration laws (viva Le Pen) and international laws (no more "humanitarian" interventions that create slaughter houses on a massive scale). And it is certainly time to establish a new round of Nuremberg Process and to convict the western war criminals who made the Muslims run/swim for their lives to Europe. - The same ziocon idiots have crashed the protection of Europe from sub-Saharan migrants, which the late Gaddaffi used to provide. - The war profiteers (financial sector, mercenary army' contractors, MIC, mega oil-corporations ) should be taxed to initiate a Marshall plan in those countries that were destroyed by western “elites” for oil, Eretz Israel, power, and money. Then the muslim population of Europe should be induced to go back to their restored native lands.

    Seeing them hanging and drying up there is a dream, But to get there they have to be defeated the way Nazis was. Considering current situation it is not achievable at the moment. But taking small steps I mentioned is easily done if there is even modest political and population will to get rid of strangers and prevent others form coming.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    You still did not get it: "they" are "there" because the deciders made certain decisions for you and "them." Are you ready to "get rid of strangers" with your own hands? Or you prefer a legislative process? - The election of Macron makes it impossible for defending the France sovereignty; he and his handlers are not interested in your (and "their") distress.
    You are looking for solution in a wrong direction. Here is sample illustrating a sausage-making in western politics:
    The "Liberation" [French journal] was bought up by French Rothschilds in order to support Je Suis Charlie, a satirical magazine which serially besmirched Christianity and Islam, but published only one feeble joke about Judaism – and that particular editor was fired toute suite. If so, no surprise to see Liberation in above context [the support for Macron]." http://thesaker.is/je-suis-charlie-to-macronleaks-frances-free-press-takes-credibility-hit/
    The western civilization has been dragged into an old festering conflict between Jews and Arabs. The absolute majority of westerners are not interested in this ancient animosity, but the parasitoid needs other peoples' resources to achieve "chosen" hegemony, whence the US/EU moral discontent. Take note that Israel is very friendly with Saudis, the propagators of wahhabism (radical islamic fundamentalism - remember 9/11?) and that the activists from the same ethnic group have designed and implemented a regime change in the formerly peaceful (though corrupt then and even more corrupt now) Ukraine. The Ukrainian "liberalization," led by Nuland-Kagan and other neocons, has brought about, among other achievements like a civil war, an official abuse of the WWII veterans and glorification of both the former Nazi collaborators and currently active neo-Nazis. Should we start "getting rid" of the warmongers? The ziocons-infested western governments have become impotent with regard to protection of state sovereignty.
    http://theduran.com/fascist-ukrainian-regime-bans-victory-day-and-immortal-regiment/
  183. @anarchyst
    Islam is not just a "religion", but is an all-encompassing foreign social and political system that governs all aspect of every moslem's life. As such, NO Constitutional "First Amendment" protections need be afforded this foreign political system and their adherents. In fact, ALL moslems who hold American citizenship should be required to (re)affirm their loyalty to the United States.

    The only way for Islam to "reform itself" is to separate the spiritual aspect of the "religion" from the social and political part. Christianity did just that, hundreds of years ago... It is long overdue for Islam to reform itself--if it can...

    Islam is actually an arabicized version of judaism. Both the talmud and the koran have virtually identical passages in which the “supremacy” of each respective group is proclaimed. Both texts declare that non-believers are “less than human” and are to be used for the advantage of each respective cult. You can bet that, if push came to shove, jews would align with the muslims as they are of the same cloth.

    Add to that, ALL dual-citizenship should be abolished. There is no room in the United States for those who hold "dual-citizenship". One cannot have split loyalties...split loyalties have contributed to our present situation.

    There is another "group" of dual-citizenship" types that deserve strict scrutiny. There are approximately 40 or so congresscritters who hold dual-citizenship with a "certain little country" in the middle east. In fact, many of these congresscritters are given all-expenses paid "vacations" to this "certain little country" as a "reward" for doing that country's bidding. There are THOUSANDS of high-level federal "policy wonks" and government employees who also hold dual-citizenship with that "certain little country". It is reasonable to question who they really work for--the USA or "that certain other country".

    It was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of that "certain little country" in the middle east...just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States...they should renounce their United States citizenship and deport themselves to that "certain little country" in the middle east...

    Islam is actually an arabicized version of judaism. Both the talmud and the koran have virtually identical passages in which the “supremacy” of each respective group is proclaimed. Both texts declare that non-believers are “less than human” and are to be used for the advantage of each respective cult. You can bet that, if push came to shove, jews would align with the muslims as they are of the same cloth.

    How interesting. The following article claims that Islam formed out of a Judaizing Christian Sect in Syria or there abouts:

    http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/160197/sec_id/160197

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  184. @anarchyst
    Islam is not just a "religion", but is an all-encompassing foreign social and political system that governs all aspect of every moslem's life. As such, NO Constitutional "First Amendment" protections need be afforded this foreign political system and their adherents. In fact, ALL moslems who hold American citizenship should be required to (re)affirm their loyalty to the United States.

    The only way for Islam to "reform itself" is to separate the spiritual aspect of the "religion" from the social and political part. Christianity did just that, hundreds of years ago... It is long overdue for Islam to reform itself--if it can...

    Islam is actually an arabicized version of judaism. Both the talmud and the koran have virtually identical passages in which the “supremacy” of each respective group is proclaimed. Both texts declare that non-believers are “less than human” and are to be used for the advantage of each respective cult. You can bet that, if push came to shove, jews would align with the muslims as they are of the same cloth.

    Add to that, ALL dual-citizenship should be abolished. There is no room in the United States for those who hold "dual-citizenship". One cannot have split loyalties...split loyalties have contributed to our present situation.

    There is another "group" of dual-citizenship" types that deserve strict scrutiny. There are approximately 40 or so congresscritters who hold dual-citizenship with a "certain little country" in the middle east. In fact, many of these congresscritters are given all-expenses paid "vacations" to this "certain little country" as a "reward" for doing that country's bidding. There are THOUSANDS of high-level federal "policy wonks" and government employees who also hold dual-citizenship with that "certain little country". It is reasonable to question who they really work for--the USA or "that certain other country".

    It was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of that "certain little country" in the middle east...just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States...they should renounce their United States citizenship and deport themselves to that "certain little country" in the middle east...

    “The only way for Islam to “reform itself” is to separate the spiritual aspect of the “religion” from the social and political part.”

    Weren’t Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya all Islamic countries that were doing that, or beginning to do that, and what happened to them? A “secular” Islamic country or culture seems to get perceived as a “threat” to somebody, and therefore in need of being destroyed, resulting in a violent resurgence of the more primitive and brutal forms of Islamism.

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  185. @ia

    When the British encountered India, the latter produced about the quarter of the world’s GDP.
     
    LOL. How in hell did you come up with that?

    Nobody's saying the British were angels. Nobody wants to be colonized. My question concerned which is the lesser of two evils.

    Common knowledge that India was responsible for much of the world’s GDP before the middle ages.

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    You may be right but GDP, the concept, would be a western invention, probably 19th century.
  186. @Daniel Chieh
    Whether or not East Asian countries practice racism, I can't think of one that's mindless enough to encourage unlimited immigration with no standards at all. That borders on insanity and makes little logical sense.

    No society can be a free for all; we still live in a world of limited resources and unlimited wants, I mean.

    In Mohammed and Charlemagne Revisited: The History of a Controversy the author suggests that Constantine welcomed Christians because of their higher birth rate that citizens of the empire. Sounds familiar.

    I have this theory that if you have a mixed population of whites and Chinese you need a religion that incorporates elements of Buddhism and Christianity in much the same way that Christianity was a fusion of Judaism and Greek Mystery Religions, but is not Judeo-Christian.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    I must be misreading you. Where would Constantine get Christians who weren't citizens of the empire?
  187. @Corvinus
    "If that realization occurs, though the outcome may be uncertain, the leadership of necessary violence and determination will emerge. Those who insist on living by rules incompatible with Western civilization may be induced to leave by cash payments, they may be forcibly expelled, or they may be slaughtered. It will be brutal and there is no certainty that Western civilization will survive the struggle."

    Assuming white Christians will set aside their ideological differences and unite to purge Muslims and non-believers in the best interest of Western Civilization. You always have such grandiose visions but seem to be unwilling to actually carry them out.

    "Moreover, it is a civilization totally incompatible with Western ideas about democracy and the separation of powers."

    You do realize that if your scenario plays out, those leaders in charge of the purge are engaging in actions that run counter to those dear principles you laid out. Hypocrite.

    You always have such grandiose visions but seem to be unwilling to actually carry them out.

    Your trouble Corvinus is that you read what you want to believe not what is in front of you eyes. I advocated nothing. I said what I believe will, or at least could, happen. Indeed, I spelled out alternatives. Western submission to Islam or Western expulsion of Islam from in its midst.

    You do realize that if your scenario plays out, those leaders in charge of the purge are engaging in actions that run counter to those dear principles you laid out.

    What “dear principles” that I “laid out.” None, because I laid out no principles, dear or otherwise. You should take a course in remedial reading.

    And you’d be more bearable if you’d omit the foolish insults.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Your trouble Corvinus is that you read what you want to believe not what is in front of you eyes. I advocated nothing. I said what I believe will, or at least could, happen. Indeed, I spelled out alternatives. Western submission to Islam or Western expulsion of Islam from in its midst."

    Your position is clear--remove by force Islam from the West. You advocate a specific course of action, mindful of the fact that Europeans COULD also submit to Islam, but this decision would inevitably lead to their destruction as a culture.

    "What “dear principles” that I “laid out.” None, because I laid out no principles, dear or otherwise. You should take a course in remedial reading.

    You made the claim that Islam is incompatible to Western governmental ideals, ones you take to heart as a white European man. Then, you advocate that Western leaders must move to eject Muslims, even if they are citizens. So, if that plan would come to fruition, the people in charge who carry out that plan would contradict those principles you embrace. Hypocrite.
  188. @Sergey Krieger
    Seeing them hanging and drying up there is a dream, But to get there they have to be defeated the way Nazis was. Considering current situation it is not achievable at the moment. But taking small steps I mentioned is easily done if there is even modest political and population will to get rid of strangers and prevent others form coming.

    You still did not get it: “they” are “there” because the deciders made certain decisions for you and “them.” Are you ready to “get rid of strangers” with your own hands? Or you prefer a legislative process? – The election of Macron makes it impossible for defending the France sovereignty; he and his handlers are not interested in your (and “their”) distress.
    You are looking for solution in a wrong direction. Here is sample illustrating a sausage-making in western politics:
    The “Liberation” [French journal] was bought up by French Rothschilds in order to support Je Suis Charlie, a satirical magazine which serially besmirched Christianity and Islam, but published only one feeble joke about Judaism – and that particular editor was fired toute suite. If so, no surprise to see Liberation in above context [the support for Macron].” http://thesaker.is/je-suis-charlie-to-macronleaks-frances-free-press-takes-credibility-hit/
    The western civilization has been dragged into an old festering conflict between Jews and Arabs. The absolute majority of westerners are not interested in this ancient animosity, but the parasitoid needs other peoples’ resources to achieve “chosen” hegemony, whence the US/EU moral discontent. Take note that Israel is very friendly with Saudis, the propagators of wahhabism (radical islamic fundamentalism – remember 9/11?) and that the activists from the same ethnic group have designed and implemented a regime change in the formerly peaceful (though corrupt then and even more corrupt now) Ukraine. The Ukrainian “liberalization,” led by Nuland-Kagan and other neocons, has brought about, among other achievements like a civil war, an official abuse of the WWII veterans and glorification of both the former Nazi collaborators and currently active neo-Nazis. Should we start “getting rid” of the warmongers? The ziocons-infested western governments have become impotent with regard to protection of state sovereignty.

    http://theduran.com/fascist-ukrainian-regime-bans-victory-day-and-immortal-regiment/

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    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    Saudis, the propagators of wahhabism (radical islamic fundamentalism – remember 9/11?)

    The Bush Cheney fairy tales still believed.
  189. @rw95
    Common knowledge that India was responsible for much of the world's GDP before the middle ages.

    You may be right but GDP, the concept, would be a western invention, probably 19th century.

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