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As predicted, Putin’s popularity takes a nosedive.

This fact is not often discussed in the West, but the popularity of Vladimir Putin is in decline and has been so ever since, following his reelection, he kept more or less the same (already unpopular) government while that government very clumsily attempted to “sneak by” undetected a pension reform. Now the latest numbers are in, and they are not good: only 31.7% of Russians trust Vladimir Putin, that is his worst score in 13 years! His score last year was 47.4% (by the way, Shoigu got only 14.8%, Lavrov got 13%, and Medvedev got 7.6%. These are terrible scores by any measure!)

I have been warning about this for a while now (see here, here, here, here, here, here and here), and we now can try to understand what happened.

These are the faces most Russians are fed-up with
These are the faces most Russians are fed-up with

First, it is obvious that millions of Russians (including yours truly) were deeply disappointed that Putin did not substantially reorganize the Russian government following his triumphant reelection last year. Putin himself is on record saying two things about that: first, that he is generally happy with the performance of the government and, second, that he needs an experienced team to implement his very ambitious reform program (more about that in a moment).

Second, it is equally obvious that the pension reform is profoundly unpopular and that Putin’s personal credibility has never recovered from this political fiasco.

Third, and this is the most overlooked and yet most interesting development – there is a real opposition gradually emerging in Russia. What do I mean by “real”? First, I mean not a “pretend opposition” as we see in the Russian Duma (which is a glorified rubber-stamping parliament). Second, I mean a patriotic opposition which is neither financed nor controlled by Mr. Soros nor the CIA nor any of their innumerable offshoots. The problem is that this opposition has many severe problems and that it completely fails to present an alternative to the current “Putinocracy.”

Here we need to state something significant: Putin is indeed a “liberal,” at least in terms of economic policies. When he says that he is happy (“on the whole”) with the performance of the Medvedev government, it is because he probably is. Furthermore, while Putin apparently likes to listen to folks like Glaziev, he is clearly wary of implementing the more “social” (or even “socialist”) measures advocated by Glaziev and his supporters.

But if Putin is a liberal, is there really a 5th column acting behind the scenes?

This being said, it would be wrong to jump to the primitive conclusion that there is no 5th column (or no “Atlantic Integrationists”) in the Kremlin or in the Staraya Square. In fact, it would be impossible for such a 5th column not to exist. How do we know that? For three very basic reasons

  • The AngloZionist leaders of the Empire absolutely hate Putin. Those pretending to deny that are either terminally dishonest or fantastically stupid. Either way, they are wrong. Simply put: by the late 1990s Russia as a country was quasi-dead, finished, something like the Ukronazi occupied Ukraine today. Not only has Putin single-handedly saved Russia from collapse, he turned Russia into a power capable of defeating the plans of the Empire not only in Syria but also in the rest of the Middle-East. Yes, all the accusations of “collusion” and “hacking” are verbal prolefeed for TV-watching intellectual midgets, but that does not mean that the leaders don’t have real, factual and logical reasons to fear Putin and Russia. They do. And they are doing everything in their power to weaken Russia and overthrow Putin.
  • Most of the Russian elites achieved their elite status in the 1990s (some even in the 1980s!), and many of them hate Putin for putting a stop to the total robbery bonanza which made it possible for these people to not only come to power but also make a killing financially. As for the so-called “economic block” of the Russian government, it is entirely made up of what I loosely call the “WTO/IMF/WB/etc.” -Types: folks who sincerely endorse the so-called “Washington Consensus.” The very least one could say about these folks is that their worldview and ideology are not only totally alien to traditional Russian values, they are in fact profoundly anti-Russian. For these folks to become the 5th column is the most natural development.
  • The system which Putin inherited was one deeply integrated with the AngloZionist sphere of financial, economic, political, and social influence. While western sanctions (and general political shortsightedness) severed many of these ties (thank you to the Neocons for their life-saving sanctions and, especially, hysterically Russophobic propaganda!), there are very few cases (if any) of Russians severing such ties. Some believe that Putin sincerely wanted Russia to join NATO or/and the EU. I don’t agree with that, but whether he was sincere or not, the fact is that Putin did initially try to court the West. The fact that the West was too stupid to see the fantastic opportunity this situation was offering is yet another powerful testimony of how incompetent western “area specialists” have become.

Putin’s 2007 “Munich speech” should have acted like an urgent wake-up call to the leaders of the West, but they lacked the brains and courage to listen to what Putin was saying. The same thing happened during Putin’s 2015 speech at the UNGA. To his internal Russian audience, Putin bluntly said, when asked if the West was trying to “humiliate” Russia: “They do not want to humiliate us, they want to subdue us, solve their problems at our expense.” Personally, I believe that Putin, as any other officer of the First Main Directorate (foreign intelligence) of the KGB always understood that the West was a mortal enemy of Russia and that this has been true for at least 1000 years. Thus I think that it would be naive to believe that Putin ever “trusted” the West. But did he deliberately give that impression for as long as it could serve his purposes? Yes, absolutely. Now, this period is clearly over.

The one thing which the Russian 5th column cannot really be is any type of “opposition.” First, the 5th column is internal to the Kremlin, to the Presidential Administration, to the “United Russia” party and to all the other centers of power in Russia. This forces the opposition to pretend loyalty to Putin while sabotaging every effort at re-sovereignizing Russia (admittedly a tough task since Russia has been ruled by foreign elites since at least the times of Peter I).

I am often asked why Russia Today and Sputnik publish what can only be called “trash” or even anti-religious propaganda on their websites. The answer is simple: there are plenty of folks at RT and Sputnik (especially in the teams operating their websites as opposed to the actual broadcasts) who are pure products of the AngloZionist worldview and who love some sleazy sex story almost as much as they love to bash or ridicule the Orthodox church. While there are plenty of terrific people in both of these media, there are also plenty who secretly would love Russia to return to the 1990s or become a kind of “Poland” east of the Ukraine. This is also why these outlets make a strenuous effort not to discuss the Israel lobby in the West (not only the USA), but they also stay away from any discussion of 9/11. I know for a fact that any mention of the real events of 9/11 is strictly forbidden by some “bigshot” editors in Moscow as my own interviews were censored that way.

ORDER IT NOW

One word of caution here: there are millions of Russians abroad, and many of them are what are now called “вырусь” (vy-roos’) in Russia: folks who might speak Russian, and even visit Russia from time to time, but who have completely lost their “Russian-ness” and whose worldview does not extend beyond wishing that Russia was more like the US or Germany. They think of Russia as “rashka,” and they absolutely hate any genuine manifestation of Russian culture, spirituality, traditions or religion. Some of them will join the Alt-Right movement and pretend that the racist categories and ideology used by this movement have some traction in Russia (they don’t). Some will try to impersonate Orthodox Christians. In truth – they are still a pure product of the AngloZionst Empire. Some of them have clearly found gainful employment in the Russian media where they keep a vigilant watch for any signs that the ideological dogma of the West (we all know what they are) are being debunked by Russian patriots. These “vyroos” are yet another manifestation of the Russian 5th column.

What about the official opposition to Putin?

Ukie Defense Minister Poltorak photoshops himself before an exploding Kremlin Tower.  This is the kind of nonsense that gets even Duma members angry.
Ukie Defense Minister Poltorak photoshops himself before an exploding Kremlin Tower. This is the kind of nonsense that gets even Duma members angry.

Then there is the “official” Duma opposition, which is more or less a joke. Some Russian MPs are better than others, but even the comparatively better ones are entirely unable to present a real challenge to the Russian government (we saw that painfully illustrated by the Duma vote on the pension reform).

As for the ordinary people, most of them probably still trust Putin in foreign policy issues, but many are also getting genuinely fed-up with an arrogant and condescending ruling elite which couldn’t care less about the plight of regular people and who live in an ivory tower of wealth, arrogance and power.

There is also a gradual realization that Putin in generally being “too soft” on the Empire and not proactive enough in defense of Novorussia against the Ukronazi junta in Kiev. Sadly, I have to agree with them. Yes, there has been some progress: the Russian ban on exporting energy to the Ukraine and the deliverance of Russian passports to the people of Novorussia. Furthermore, the Kremlin has expressed precisely zero approval of Zelenskii’s election and, apparently, this was the correct move since even though the policies of Poroshenko were categorically rejected by an absolute majority of the Ukrainian people, all the signs are that Zelenskii has already wholly caved to the demands of the “collective West”. Unless this trend towards “more of the same, only worse” is reversed, it is likely that the popular pressure in Russia to be far more proactive against the regime in Kiev will only increase. In recent months the Duma has been under pressure from the public to take a more forceful reaction to the events in the Ukraine, and this has had some, albeit limited, effect: the totally lame Duma has now become a little bit less lame, but not by much.

So what is this new opposition to Putin?

How our power structure is organized: This is the Kremlin. Putin is there. He issues decrees and ensures that the Constitution is upheld; This is the Government building. Medvedev is there and he loots the budget of our country; This is the Duma, Volodin is there and he adopts anti-popular laws; This is the Federation Council, Matvienko and she approves anti-popular laws..
How our power structure is organized: This is the Kremlin. Putin is there. He issues decrees and ensures that the Constitution is upheld; This is the Government building. Medvedev is there and he loots the budget of our country; This is the Duma, Volodin is there and he adopts anti-popular laws; This is the Federation Council, Matvienko and she approves anti-popular laws..

The distinguishing characteristic of this new opposition to Putin is that it sees itself as the truly patriotic segment of Russian society. These are folks who blame Putin for being weak, indecisive and corrupt (including personally). They believe that Putin sits on the top of an oligarchic pyramid which only pays lip service to Russian national interests, but which in reality is interested only in wealth, power and influence. Frankly, much of their argumentation about Putin’s alleged corruption is based on a mix of disinformation and personal hatred for Putin himself. In contrast, however, their arguments that Putin is too weak or indecisive are based on a completely rational and fact based analysis of the events which have marked Putin’s presidency. After all, the man has been in power for 20 years or so, he has enjoyed tremendous bureaucratic power and the full support of the vast majority of the population. How then can he (or his supporters) blame it all on a “bad system” or the power of a 5th column whose existence some don’t believe in in the first place?

On the right is a typical opposition “Internet poster”.

While I personally don’t agree with this point of view, I have to recognize that it is not self-evidently absurd or solely based on propaganda. In other words, they do have a point, and much of their criticism is valid.

Alas, much of it is not, and that mix loses a lot in credibility when 50% of it is fact-based and logical, and 50% is not.

What is even worse is that these patriots regularly find themselves in the same camp as the Soros/CIA -funded folks whom the patriots claim to hate, but whose arguments they often recycle (about the personal corruption of Putin, for example).

The other major weakness of this new opposition is that it lacks any kind of leader. This is why I did not bother listing the names of the main representatives of this opposition: for most of those who will read this article, these names will mean nothing.

Finally, this new patriotic opposition seems to lack an original worldview: much of their argumentation boils down to “it was better in the Soviet era” (they typically tend to overlook how bad things indeed were, at least since the 1980s!).

So where do we go from here? Will Russia ever have a real, vibrant, opposition?

My short personal answer is, yes, Russia will have such an opposition. Here is why:

  • The official Duma opposition is both useless and hopeless.
  • The Soros/CIA financed opposition is discredited beyond rescue.
  • The 5th column is fundamentally a fraud, and most Russians hate it.
  • The current “patriotic” opposition will grow due to the policies of the Russian government, and they will probably learn from their mistakes.
  • Crises often (almost always) generate the appearance of new leaders

I hope that the newly emerging “patriotic” opposition will focus its wrath not on Putin as a person, but on the mistakes of the Russian government wherever they happen: President, Prime Minister, Minister or below – it should not matter. If the opposition succeeds in focusing on issues rather than venting its rage against specific individuals, then real changes become possible, including personnel changes.

The latest opinion polls show that all the members of the government are suffering from falling ratings, not just the Atlantic Integrationists. If this trend maintains itself, the Eurasian Sovereignists will have a powerful incentive to cut their ties with the Atlantic Integrationists. Who knows, maybe Medvedev and the so-called “economic block of the government” will be shown to the door? If not, then the plunge in the polls will most likely continue, and social unrest becomes a real possibility.

 
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  1. Talk about trash, this article is it.

    Just full of unsupported assertions and with an overall lack of understanding about how countries, especially big ones, really work.

    Citing some polling on individual figures is meaningless without context and without any details about the nature of the poll. Faked and/or incompetent polling happens regularly in the West.”Push”polls are a constant gimmick used in the Western press to give authority to assertions.

    Any poll which shows Shoigu getting only 14.8%, Lavrov getting 13%, is highly suspect on its face. These are genuinely super-capable individuals in their jobs, quite beyond any norms for performance.

    When something smells as bad as this article, sharp reader knows something is going on beyond the mere speculations of an amateur affairs analyst.

  2. der einzige says: • Website

    I wrote this to Saker a few years ago, the capitalist Putin will never recognize the People’s Republics – he prefers friendship with Satanyahu – they will remember together how they bombed the resistance movement in Syria over 200 times.
    the chabad rules, the chabad advises, the chabad will never betray you

    • Replies: @Parbes
  3. A ‘5th column’ might not see itself as such, but as a force saving the Russian people. Any foreign backers would see things the same. But involvement in other nations’ interval affairs, however noble the motives, can lead to consequences far greater than the ills that need to be cured. Such moves by the west – whether we like it or not – would be seen as an existential threat by the Kremlin and a large number of the Russian people. The world survived the fall of the Soviet Union without nuclear Armageddon: it shouldn’t play Russian roulette twice.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

  4. Parbes says:
    @der einzige

    Yeah…. the “resistance movement” in Syria consisting of Sunni Islamic terrorists of Al Qaida and ISIS – which were bombed by RUSSIA ONLY, not Israel.

    It’s really pathetic, how you think that you’ll be able to perhaps draw a few of the dumber neo-Nazis to your side by using a Germanic handle like “der einzige”.

    Get off this website, you Wahhabi/CIA/whatever sewer rat keyboard cowboy POS.

    You’ve got it comin’, sooner or later.

    • Replies: @der einzige
  5. A non-event, same ol’, same ol’. Here is an original with Putin’s approval rating–65.8%:

    https://wciom.ru/index.php?id=236&uid=9707

    Показатель одобрения деятельности Президента стабилен и находится в рамках сформировавшегося коридора: по среднему значению с 13 по 19 мая он составил 65,8%.

    1. I wrote about this once:

    https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2019/03/south-front-say-what-ii.html.

    2. Svobodnaya Pressa (SP) is not exactly unbiased (or competent) source. Enough to take a look at such odious figures as Boldyrev hanging out there as a “columnist”;

    3. Russia’s so called opposition (mainly left) committed suicide when went with Grudinin. In general, they don’t have anyone of required scale and competence to even approach a vicinity of Putin.

    In many respects, SP’s commentaries are merely a tempest in the cup.

    • Replies: @Felix Keverich
  6. der einzige says: • Website
    @Parbes

    first: if you checked where the “der einzige” comes from you would not write about neo-Nazi
    secondly: when writing about the resistance, I meant Hizbollach, Shiite militias, Iranians and Syrians – bombarded by Israel with the consent of Putin.

    • Replies: @Parbes
  7. Rob435 says:

    I suspect if they distrust Putin the diabolical skripal RT interview with the “Russian Tourists” may have something to do with it.

    Tens of Millions of Russians were ready to believe the false flag CIA / M16 setup explanation, then suddenly two idiots popup, on national tv who just scream military / security looking men to say they were there … just to check out the cathedral spire of course!

    I mean what a shot in the foot who authorised that interview to happen?

  8. Some believe that Putin sincerely wanted Russia to join NATO or/and the EU. I don’t agree with that, but whether he was sincere or not, the fact is that Putin did initially try to court the West. The fact that the West was too stupid to see the fantastic opportunity this situation was offering is yet another powerful testimony of how incompetent western “area specialists” have become.

    Washington would never allow Russia to join EU/NATO. Russia’s too big for them to control, and might even end up partly or entirely co-opting these organizations. No, their original plan was to break Russia up into bite-sized pieces first, then induct those little statelets into NATO (or some other Washington-dominated ‘alliance’), then use them to surround and harass China–all very similar to the way they’re using Ukraine and the Caucasus to surround and harass Russia now.

    • Agree: The Scalpel
    • Replies: @sally
  9. Parbes says:
    @der einzige

    “…when writing about the resistance, I meant Hizbollach, Shiite militias, Iranians and Syrians – bombarded by Israel with the consent of Putin”

    Then don’t say “remember together how they bombed the resistance movement in Syria”. “Bombarded by Israel” is NOT the same thing as “they bombed the resistance movement together”. (And it’s highly doubtful that Putin actually “consented” to Israel’s bombings anyway – “not retaliating” is NOT the same as “consenting”. But that’s another discussion; and open to speculation, for now).

    You Iranian/Shiite propagandists are almost as bad sophists and word-twisters as the Zio-hasbarats.

    • Replies: @der einzige
    , @anonymous
  10. der einzige says: • Website
    @Parbes

    keep on guessing 😛 maybe these two articles will show you my point of view

    https://eurasiafuture.com/2019/04/12/putinyahus-rusrael/

    Putin said:

    First of all I would like to say that the way the Israeli Government and the whole society in Israel deal with terror is a good example of how policy in this sphere should be designed. And I think that policy has grown out of the decades of suffering endured by the Israeli people. In resolving political issues you can have political contacts with anyone. But there should be no negotiations with terrorists.

    Terrorists perceive any negotiations with them as a sign of weakness and are encouraged to try to use terror to achieve political goals. That cannot be tolerated. I think international cooperation in this sphere is a must. I think the Russian public understands that we must and will cooperate with Israel in this field. And it is no secret for the public in Israel either. The reasons for such cooperation are clear and it is justified.

    The international significance of terrorism was highlighted by the fact that quite recently a leader of the terrorists operating in Chechnya called publicly through the mass media for the extermination of the Jewish people…Let me remind you that the Soviet Union was one of the initiators and supporters of the creation of the State of Israel. Today Russia believes that Israel is an element of stability in the Middle East, and hence in the whole world.”

    https://orientalreview.org/2018/05/10/president-putin-on-israel-quotes-from-the-kremlin-website/

  11. Parbes says:

    Putin was NOT talking about the recent Israeli bombings of Syria in that speech – he was talking of past Israeli actions against the attacks on Israel originating from militants in the Palestinian territories and Lebanon. Now YOU may consider those actions to be exactly equivalent to Israel bombing Syria during the ongoing Syrian Civil War (a point of view that you SHARE WITH THE ISRAELIS, by the way), but they are NOT, really – and Putin and most people in the world don’t consider them so, either. Also, if you notice Putin was just engaging in political talk there to get Israelis behind the Russian struggle against the Saudi-supported Wahhabi/Salafi terrorists in the North Caucasus – THAT was his main aim.

    Real nice twisting of statements and facts to fit your own agenda and skewed viewpoint, man – did you learn this from the Zio-propagandists?

    • Replies: @der einzige
  12. One word of caution here: there are millions of Russians abroad, and many of them are what are now called “вырусь” (vy-roos’) in Russia: folks who might speak Russian, and even visit Russia from time to time, but who have completely lost their “Russian-ness”… Some of them will join the Alt-Right movement and pretend that the racist categories and ideology used by this movement have some traction in Russia (they don’t).

    А consistent 50% of Russians support the implicitly ethnonationalist slogan “Russia for [ethnic] Russians.”

    I assume they will be rather surprised to hear that they are vy-rus’. The Saker’s idea of civilizational alliance with Islam against the AngloZionists is what real Russian Orthodox Slavic civilization is all about.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  13. FB says: • Website
    @JOHN CHUCKMAN

    Any poll which shows Shoigu getting only 14.8%, Lavrov getting 13%, is highly suspect on its face. These are genuinely super-capable individuals in their jobs, quite beyond any norms for performance.

    Absolutely agree…I don’t know where Saker pulled out this clunker…although I do think there is widespread popular dissatisfaction with the utterly idiotic pension ‘reform…’

    I do agree that Medvedev should have been tossed already…I honestly hope this comes soon…

    Personally I would like to see Russia taking a page from China’s playbook…Xi has been more effective than Putin, no doubt…he is not only cracking down hard on corruption, but also nipping in the bud any thoughts the corporate elite may entertain about advancing to oligarchy…

    The state is firmly in control of its finance sector, which is the biggest problem in Russia…I read a recent Swedish study on the Russian machine tool industry, which is crucial for national security and the MIC, but is now an empty husk of its once world leading stature…the conclusion is that prospects for a resurrection are poor mostly due to high interest rates…

    The venerable PCR has been stressing for years that Russia needs to print money to finance infrastructure and vital technology…that’s what sovereign countries do…but Russia is still acting like a banana republic…

    Neither Putin nor anyone in government has actual control of the central bank…which ‘independence’ [read absolute dependence on the global finance cabal] is enshrined in the US-written Yeltsin era ‘Constitution’…

    Now there are some that argue that Putin has done very well just to fend off the ongoing financial, economic and informational war on Russia…and perhaps Russia cannot simply make a clean break with the western financial octopus with which it’s entangled…

    I don’t know…there may be some truth to that…a gradual weaning off may be the more prudent course…and Putin is nothing if not that…

    • Replies: @Mike P
    , @Avery
  14. Cyrano says:

    When Putin gets too old to govern, the next leader will not come from some “vibrant” opposition. The next leader will be hand-picked by Putin, same way he was hand-picked by that fool Yeltsin – the best move he ever made.

    There are people in Russia who still believe that trying to emulate the western “democratic practices” will win them approval and love from the west.

    Leave the winning of love and approval by the west to the lesser Slavs like the Polaks and the Ukrainians.

    The only time west “approved” of Russia was when they were doing self-harm to themselves – like in 1980’s and 90’s.

    Listen carefully, my dear Russians – west will never love you, and it’s not your fault. So don’t worry about it. Choose your own path and forget about “democracy”. The whole thing is a sham anyway.

    • Replies: @yurivku
    , @Andrei Martyanov
  15. der einzige says: • Website
    @Parbes

    “Putin was NOT talking about the recent Israeli”

    and how is Satanyahu different from Sharon or Barak?

    At the beginning of the Chechen wars, the Russians did not fight against Wahhabi they came later sent by USrael.

    • Replies: @Parbes
  16. peterAUS says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    …idea of civilizational alliance with Islam against the AngloZionists is what real Russian Orthodox Slavic civilization is all about.

    Interesting.
    My impression is that Kremlin cooperates with Muslim elites in order to control (growing) Muslim population.
    Could you, please, expand on the quote?

    My take: nonsense. Greeks, Bulgarians, Serbs (oh my…) and (minuscule but with definite attitude) Montenegrin, to ally with Muslims? Civilizational alliance?!? I mean…..that’s just crazy.

  17. Parbes says:
    @der einzige

    “and how is Satanyahu different from Sharon or Barak?”

    You seem to have limited intelligence and comprehension. It’s not about this or that personality or name. It’s about WHERE Israel bombed, and WHEN. If you cannot see the difference between Israel bombing Lebanon, Gaza etc. in the context of ongoing low-level cross-border guerrilla warfare in reply to militant attacks originating there (WHETHER YOU THINK SUCH ATTACKS ARE JUSTIFIED OR NOT), versus Israel bombing Syrian government troops and their allies on Syrian soil in the middle of a war with jihadi armies (thus directly in support of jihadis), in the absence of any cross-border attack on Israeli territory from Syrian government troops and allies – well then you’re really hopeless.

    “At the beginning of the Chechen wars, the Russians did not fight against Wahhabi they came later sent by USrael.”

    So what’s your point?? Yes, it was a separatist insurgency at first (though the Islamist element, the savage brutality and the external support were there from the start); but it quickly morphed into a full-blown Islamist-dominated jihad conflict, as it was bound to do – so what? What does that have to do with this speech of Putin’s, which was obviously made at a later date? And the Wahhabis were not just “sent by USrael” – they were MAINLY sent by the Islamist regimes, organizations, intelligence services and radical North Caucasian diaspora in anti-Russian Sunni Muslim states such as the Saudis, Qatar, Kuwait, Turkey, Jordan, etc., with U.S./Western blessing and support in the background. So again, unless you actually support the North Caucasus separatist insurgency, in which case you are no friend of Russia – what is your point?

  18. peterAUS says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Don’t much care what “Saker types” think I am afraid. Skim read some of their stuff just to see some trends in some Russian/Rusophile circles. This “alliance with Muslims” in particular, for obvious practical reasons.

    Good article that link, overall.
    Now, for this:

    Islamic radicalism remains a big problem in the Balkans, most recently in Macedonia.

    Uhm….didn’t mention Macedonians in my previous post. Apologies to a couple of guys reading this.
    And, just don’t see it as “radicalism”. It’s just what they are, what they do, when they feel they have power. More power, more “radicalism”. Or more of of the true nature of that thing.

    As you say here:
    S. scribbling:

    Relations between Orthodox Christians and Muslims have by and large been peaceful. The notable exception to this was the Ottoman Empire which has always viciously persecuted Orthodox Christianity, but that kind of behavior was always an Ottoman characteristic, not a Muslim one.

    Your comment:

    So far as “exceptions” go that is a pretty damn big one. Like, a cardinal one.

    Spot on.

    We know from the Balkans that even Slavic groups who convert to Islam effectively become lost to the wider Slavic Christian civilization. They start claiming themselves to be their own archaic ethnic groups, or to be Turks who had merely become linguistically Slavicized. In the absence of a strong, self-confident state to manage them, their loyalties naturally drift towards Istanbul or Riyadh.

    Obviously.

    Anyway, any way one cuts it, “civilizational alliance” between Orthodox Europeans and Muslims….just CRAZY.

  19. Exile says:

    Russians who believe in Russian ethno-nationalism are Westernized tools of the “alt-Right?” Like Solzhenitsyn?

    Saker has his moments but when he veers into this weird kumbaya mode, he sounds like a Slavic Fred Reed.

    • Replies: @Wally
  20. @peterAUS

    Yes, as is a civilizational alliance with Israel or the Jewish diaspora.

    • Replies: @Paw
  21. Paw says:
    @RadicalCenter

    As they do not like Putin who is that Russian people and Sucker’s darling .Osama bin Laden. Poroshenko,Sakalshvili , let the truth come out ..

  22. @JOHN CHUCKMAN

    Talk about trash, this article is it.

    As a Russian I agree. Saker is making up shit. Though Putin’s declining approval numbers are real.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  23. Seraphim says:
    @peterAUS

    Saker fell under the influence of the phony Islamic ‘eschatologist’ Sheik Imran Hossein. That casts serious doubts about his understanding of Orthodoxy. Apparently he is an adept of the ‘esoteric’ National Bolshevik ‘Eurasianism’ a la Gumilyov and Dugin.

  24. @Andrei Martyanov

    Russia’s so called opposition (mainly left) committed suicide when went with Grudinin. In general, they don’t have anyone of required scale and competence to even approach a vicinity of Putin.

    Martyanov’s thinking here goes a long way to explain why Russia doesn’t have a stong political opposition. It’s really all about Russian people and their traditional deference to authority.

    The Kremlin is seen as a holy seat of power and the government is a kind of royal family. You can dislike some particular members of the royal family, but you do not question their station and their right to rule over you. It takes a person literally hand-picked by Putin to approach his vicinity. Anybody else, a commoner, is by definition unworthy and unqualified.

  25. yurivku says:
    @Cyrano

    Listen carefully, my dear Russians – west will never love you, and it’s not your fault. So don’t worry about it. Choose your own path and forget about “democracy”. The whole thing is a sham anyway.

    Thanx alot for an advice Cyrano, but *Russians* know this well and long ago. After 1999 every *Russian* knows that. Those who don’t are not *Russians* in common, you know we have UKies, Jews, Caucasians and many others here…

    • Replies: @Cyrano
  26. @Felix Keverich

    Though Putin’s declining approval numbers are real.

    You are not Russian.

    https://vz.ru/news/2019/5/31/980363.html

  27. @peterAUS

    Since you mentioned Balkan orthodox, I think that the only way part of the people (at least) of Balkans will be truly free is by making strategic alliance between Balkan Slavic muslims and orthodox Slavs.

    Latins are gone, both spiritualy and civilisationaly, so any alliance with them is basicly pointless. In fact, they are the core of the mindless globalisation drive.

    Besides, I feel much closer culturaly to the slavic Muslims then the Slavic latins.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  28. macilrae says:

    I am often asked why Russia Today and Sputnik publish what can only be called “trash”

    Some of it is unbearable

    these outlets make a strenuous effort not to discuss the Israel lobby in the West (not only the USA), but they also stay away from any discussion of 9/11.

    Ordinance fired in that direction is likely to ricochet – they do a pretty good job of demolishing the Ukraine narrative; the “White Helmets” the Venezuelan coup etc as presented by MSM and they have taken a lot of punishment for that already. And, yes

    there are plenty of folks at RT and Sputnik (especially in the teams operating their websites as opposed to the actual broadcasts) who are pure products of the AngloZionist worldview

  29. @Cyrano

    There are people in Russia who still believe that trying to emulate the western “democratic practices” will win them approval and love from the west.

    Let’s put it this way–the strata of these people is extremely narrow (thin) and consists mostly of human freaks such as kreakls and some parts of large urban centers office plankton. Majority of Russians have no illusions about the West anymore. The talk about new Iron Curtain (this time erected by Russia) is not just idle talk–Western degeneracy is an issue which needs to be dealt with.

    • Agree: Cyrano, Sergey Krieger
  30. “any mention of the real events of 9/11 is strictly forbidden by some “bigshot” editors in Moscow as my own interviews were censored that way…”
    The reason may be the circumstance that a Soviet-made missile hit the Pentagon on 9/11.

    [MORE]

    And that there appears to have existed a carefully made-up plan to make it look plausible that additional Hbombs had been delivered to the twin towers. Resulting in a previously existing emergency demolition plan to be set in motion 15 minutes after the missile hit the Pentagon without exploding thus making its type easily recognised inside Pentagon.
    Since there are clear signs that the wtc events were of a nuclear character in addition to probable conventional explosives, there is an obvious chance for the usg to blame the radioactivity on lost Russian missiles.
    For the western allies and many other intelligent and wellinformed observers, the Us could explain 9/11 as a sacrifice of a few thousand to save millions from Hbombs high above Manhattan. They probably did confide that and that explains why there is so little opposition worldwide to the absurd official narrative.
    The radioactivity probably came from mininukes and not from anything with russian origin but that cannot he proven so the plotters behind 9/11 have a hold on Russia which explains why Moscow avoids blowing the whistle.
    Dmitri Khalezov has better than any other analyst that I know of, managed to figure out these politics of the conspiracy. His technical explanation may be lacking but his experience with the agent in Thailand suggests that he was being setup in order to point people to the wrong type of nukes used.
    Britains military zine Janes published an article about the Soviet missile the day before 9/11 and I assume that there was foreknowledge behind that and no coincidence.

  31. The Scalpel says: • Website
    @JOHN CHUCKMAN

    I agree. The “evidence” Saker bases this essay upon is extremely weak. He would have been better off just leaving it out and writing the article as an opinion piece. But then, he would have been subject to evidence based rebuttals …. I generally look forward to his articles. This was disappointing

  32. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @Parbes

    [You Iranian/Shiite propagandists are almost as bad sophists and word-twisters as the Zio-hasbarats.]

    You shut up apologist for a Jewish mafia stooge and servant like the pimp Putin.
    The racist Russia always has proven that is against Muslims and in bed with the mass murderers zionists and the West. The Russians also were party of CIA/MI6 COUP against democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran Mosaddegh in 1953.

    You are hated throughout the Central Asia and beyond. Your crimes against Muslims, Arabs and Iran is known to many, where will be exposed if the liars continue to protect a zionist servant like Putin, and Trump.
    Didn’t you sell libya for few bones to the criminal zionists idiots?

    • Replies: @Parbes
    , @anonandanon
  33. Cyrano says:
    @peterAUS

    I think that in this regard the experiences of you- the Croats can be invaluable. After all, Croats are one of the few who were able to form “successful” military alliance with the Muslims (Bosnians), both in WW2 and during the breakup of Yugoslavia.

    But then again, both Islam and Catholicism have something in common – they are both jihad prone. Orthodox Christianity is different, we have never tried to convert anyone to our religion by force. It’s simply on voluntary basis.

    • Replies: @Epigon
  34. Cyrano says:
    @yurivku

    Yeah, I don’t think I am smart enough to “advise” the Russians on anything. I guess I should have framed it more in a form of an opinion, than an “advise”.

    I believe that the collective intelligence of the Russians as people is probably one of the greatest of any nation. Somehow, they always find a way to do what’s best for them and their country, while the west, despite the much flaunted advantages of “democracy” is hurtling towards the abyss.

  35. peterAUS says:
    @A step forward, two steps back

    I think that the only way part of the people (at least) of Balkans will be truly free is by making strategic alliance between Balkan Slavic muslims and orthodox Slavs.

    Hahahaha…..

    I feel much closer culturaly to the slavic Muslims then the Slavic latins.

    O.K.

  36. Parbes says:
    @anonymous

    Get lost idiot. You worthless Iranian Muslims spew religious-tribal hate at Russians and their leader like this, and then you expect Russia to come to your aid and save your asses from the U.S. and Israel even at the risk of a major war. You’re not any better than your Saudi Wahhabi “Muslim brother” rats. F___ you, your religion, and your Iran.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @anonymous
  37. Seraphim says:
    @Parbes

    It is comforting to see that there are still people who can see through the fog of stupid Islamolatria that clouds the minds of large swathes of the unthinking leftoid self-hating ‘Westerners’, making them interpret history and recent events through the glasses of Islamic hatred of the ‘kafir'(crusaders, colonialists, imperialists, Zio-stooges, Anglo-Zionists, racists, you name it, but invariably Christian) and persecuting and actively dismantling the only wall of defense against the Islamic plague, the Church.
    BTW, Germany bears a heavy responsibility in stirring the dormant Islamic word to declare jihad on the ‘oppressors’ of the benign Muslims, Anglos, French and Russians and allying herself with the genocidal Ottomans against her Christian brothers.

    • Replies: @Parbes
  38. Parbes says:
    @Seraphim

    Thanks, agree on all counts.

  39. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @Parbes

    You zionist jew mafia baby killer:

    Unfortunately, I did not read your stupid other comments, and commented on one where I thought you are a Russian apologist for the Jewish pimp, Putin like Trump.

    However, now I am sure that you are a zionist Jew TROLL where I have nothing to do with.

    The only thing I cann assure you of is that you will be thrown out of the region like a rotten rat similar to the past that you were thrown out from many European countries.

    You have no choice except going to New York, a jewish controlled rotten state, or Patagonia.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/does-israel-have-a-patagonia-project-in-argentina/5624434

    I have nothing to do with zionist troll.

    • Replies: @Parbes
  40. Parbes says:
    @anonymous

    No, what YOU are is a backward idiot. Me, a Zionist troll?? Dumb Islamists like you, with your hostility towards all non-Muslims, Russians included, and general medieval-Middle-East stupidity, actually play right into the hands of the Zionists, allowing them to present themselves as “heroic defenders of Western civilization” at the same time as they are working to undermine and destroy it.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @anonandanon
  41. Seraphim says:
    @Parbes

    If one starts to delve deeper into history (a discipline banned from education) he would realize that Muslims have always of been the patsies of the ‘Zionists’. From the very beginning of Islam.
    The Armenian chronicler Sebeos, a contemporary and eye witness of the first Muslim conquests wrote in his “History of Armenia”:
    “Twelve peoples representing all the tribes of the Jews assembled at the city of Edessa. When they saw that the Persian troops had departed leaving the city in peace, they closed the gates and fortified themselves. They refused entry to troops of the Roman lordship. Thus Heraclius, emperor of the Byzantines, gave the order to besiege it. When the Jews realized that they could not militarily resist him, they promised to make peace. Opening the city gates, they went before him, and Heraclius ordered that they should go and stay in their own place. So they departed, taking the road through the desert to Tachkastan Arabia to the sons of Ishmael. The Jews called the Arabs to their aid and familiarized them with the relationship they had through the books of the Old Testament. Although the Arabs were convinced of their close relationship, they were unable to get a consensus from their multitude, for they were divided from each other by religion. In that period a certain one of them, a man of the sons of Ishmael named Mahmed, became prominent. A sermon about the Way of Truth, supposedly at God’s command, was revealed to them, and Mahmed taught them to recognize the God of Abraham, especially since he was informed and knowledgeable about Mosaic history. Because the command had come from on High, he ordered them all to assemble together and to unite in faith. Abandoning the reverence of vain things, they turned toward the living God, who had appeared to their father–Abraham. Mahmed legislated that they were not to eat carrion, not to drink wine, not to speak falsehoods, and not to commit adultery. He said: “God promised that country to Abraham and to his son after him, for eternity. And what had been promised was fulfilled during that time when God loved Israel. Now, however, you are the sons of Abraham, and God shall fulfill the promise made to Abraham and his son on you. Only love the God of Abraham, and go and take the country which God gave to your father Abraham. No one can successfully resist you in war, since God is with you.
    “Then all of them assembled together, from Havilah to Shur, which is opposite Egypt…and they set out from the P’arhan desert… [being] twelve tribes [moving] in the order [of precedence] of the Houses of the patriarchs of their tribe. They were divided into 12,000 men, of which the sons of Israel were in their own tribes, 1,000 to a tribe, to lead them to the country of Israel. They traveled army by army in the order [of precedence] of each patriarchy: Nebaioth, Kedar, Adbeel, Mibsam, Mishma, Dumah, Massa, Hadad, Tema, Jetur, Naphish and Kedemah. These are the peoples of Ishmael. They reached Moabite Rabbath, at the borders of Ruben’s [land]. The Byzantine army was encamped in Arabia. [The Arabs] fell upon them suddenly, struck them with the sword and put to flight emperor Heraclius’ brother, T’eodos. Then they turned and encamped in Arabia.
    “All the remnants of the sons of Israel then assembled and united, becoming a large force. After this they dispatched a message to the Byzantine emperor, saying: “God gave that country as the inherited property of Abraham and of his sons after him. We are the sons of Abraham. It is too much that you hold our country. Leave in peace, and we shall demand from you what you have seized, plus interest. The emperor rejected this. He did not provide a fitting response to the message but rather said: “The country is mine. Your inheritance is the desert. So go in peace to your country”. And [Heraclius] started organizing brigades, as many as 70,000 [troops] giving them as a general, a certain one of his faithful eunuchs. He ordered that they were to go to Arabia, stipulating that they were not to engage them in war, but rather to keep on the alert until he could assemble his other troops and send them to help…
    “Now I shall speak about the plot of the Jewish rebels, who, finding support from the Hagarenes for a short time, planned to [re]build the temple of Solomon. Locating the place called the holy of holies, they constructed [the temple with a pedestal, to serve as their place of prayer. But the Ishmaelites envied [the Jews], expelled them from the place, and named the same building their own place of prayer. [The Jews] built a temple for their worship, elsewhere. It was then that they came up with an evil plan: they wanted to fill Jerusalem with blood from end to end, and to exterminate all the Christians of Jerusalem…(to be continued).

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  42. Seraphim says:
    @Seraphim

    ““Now it happened that there was a certain grandee Ishmaelite who went to worship in their private place of prayer. He encountered three of the principal Jewish men, who had just slaughtered two pigs and taken and put them [in the Muslim] place of prayer. Blood was running down the walls and on the floor of the building. As soon as the man saw them, he stopped and said something or other to them. They replied and departed. The man at once went inside to pray. He saw the wicked [sight], and quickly turned to catch the men. When he was unable to find them, he was silent and went to his place. Then many [Muslims] entered the place and saw the evil, and they spread a lament throughout the city. The Jews told the prince that the Christians had desecrated their place of prayer. The prince issued an order and all the Christians were gathered together. Just as they wanted to put them to the sword, the man came and addressed them: “Why shed so much blood in vain? Order all the Jews to assemble and I shall point out the guilty ones”. As soon as they were all assembled and [the man] walked among them, he recognized the three men whom he had previously encountered. Seizing them, [the Arabs] tried them with great severity [datets’in agahin datestanawk’] until they disclosed the plot. And because their prince was among the Jews present, he ordered that six of the principals involved in the plot be killed. He permitted the other [Jews] to return to their places”.

  43. Good Lord
    Talk about your butthurt Russian
    I love this blogspot but usually forego the saker because virtually every time I peruse a column of his , he spews anti Ukrainian vitriol and less-than-half truths that betray a genuinely mystified grasp of the notion that the subject peoples of the Russian empire , in all its manifestations, might enjoy the Kremlin’s boot on their throat less than the real russki soul appears to crave…Nationalist Ukrainians such as myself would love to have a Slavic, orthodox kinfolk with whom they could stride forth ; sadly , tho such Russians exist, they are too few and far between . The saker style Russian is no less toxic than the globohomo set with whom they are bound in a lethal duopoly driving earths people’s into one or another equally heinous soulcrushing construct. It matters not whether our depraved masters speak Russian or English , rather that we be masters in our own homes Novorossiua has had many names …. In my father’s day it was the most intensely Ukrainian region in the Empire , hence the most severely depopulated by the 30’s iteration of the holodomor. The emptied countryside was then replenished with ethnic Russians imbued with bullshit notions about Russian glory gracing the people’s whose lands they’d infested .The current situation in the donbass was widely predicted at the time by many who weren’t enamored with the notion of being a derided junior in their own fatherland. Russia is currently unable or unwilling to prevent Chinese locusts from hollowing out their resource laden Siberian hinterland, but loosen their deathgrip on the throats of their Ukrainian brothers ? Never!….
    Till Russia learns to be happy with being far and away the largest state on the planet, blessed with ample riches in land and talent , there will be no hope for either itself or the people’s whose land , and riches they can’t seem to help but covet….Grow up already….

  44. Why does Putin go along with neo-liberal economic policies in Russia? Does Putin really believe in this bullshit? I don’t believe Jeffrey Sachs…with a very guilty conscience….. believes in this bullshit anymore.

  45. @anonymous

    Great ideas here. But the tone is wrong. Work on being convincing without being shrill. You have good potential but you need study with a good Rabbi.

  46. @Parbes

    This is very good, boys. Pretend to fight among yourselves and keep everyone off guard. I like that.

    • Replies: @Parbes
  47. Epigon says:
    @Cyrano

    It wasn’t an actual alliance.
    The Muslims in WW2 were promised their own state by the Nazis after the victory, they had 2 SS Divisions and everything revolved around Islam.
    It was a suck-up of a MI6 agent (Pavelić since 1926) using the rhetorics of Croat history forgers (Sakcinski and Starčević, Rački, Truhelka) and appealing to “purest preserved Croathood” of Muslims.
    The “alliance” was only in part that they were working on a common goal – extermination of Serbs and Orthodoxy from their respective claimed territory. By 2019, they have largely succeeded in it, relying in turn on Vatican, Austro-Hungary, Germany and the West.

    In the 1990s the alliance was inexistent – the now termed Bosniaks (since 1993) went to an opportunistic war against both Serbs (historical moment was recognized, with West actively trampling all agreements and laws, looking the other way in case of Serb deaths and UNPA zones) and then when they utterly failed, turned against Croats in 1993-1994 to recoup their losses. Both wars were in accordance with the Islamic Declaration their leader published, and both wars were started by Bosniaks after they repeatedly violated first the Constitution, then rejected proposals from Serbs and foreign-mediated peace plans – Lisabon, Vance-Owen etc. I don’t blame them, why accept a compromise when you have a bianco cheque?

    The West would have none of it, so intensive pressure and actions in 1994 ended the war, and an “alliance” was signed in Washington to defeat Serbs west of Drina once and for all.
    Markale false flags and Srebrenica “genocide”, that picture of Serb suffering from tuberculosis was presented as a Bosniak in “death camp” on cover of Time magazine 1992 etc., Ruder Finn propaganda in the West all did their part.
    So, when USA unilaterally ended the embargo (in reality the West never respected it, BND armed Slovenians and Croats since 1990) in 1994 and started training Croats and Bosniaks (MPRI) no one raised a single voice.
    Tens of thousands of foreign jihadis arrived to Bosnia, coordinated by the West.
    In 1995 Croatia attacked UNPA zones and all it got was verbal warnings.
    Serbs got a NATO intervention and bombing for putting an end to Naser Orić jihadi campaign of terror from Srebrenica enclave.

    The Saker is a wholly Western subverter LARPing as a Russian, spouting nonsense and muddying the water. Actual Russians volunteered in 1990s was, while he was probably busy doing his “intelligence” work against them.

    The only thing Russians and Serbs need is to drop the “anti-imperialism”, “righteous world cause”, “slobodarstvo” and other cancer-rhetorics and thought and concentrate solely on their national interests – Saker would gladly throw millions of their lives away so that “AngloNWOZio” “oppression” of Middle East would end and “globalist elite be defeated”.

    • Replies: @Cyrano
    , @peterAUS
  48. @Yuritarasovych

    1) The Chinese locusts are more numerous in Kiev and are treated with more ass licking obeisance by Maidan renegades bureaucrats than they were in Moscow. In general, rather few Europeans in Kiev. Teeming grandma tourists and scumbag male sex tourists from China in Kiev, together with your unemployed battalion fighters, and a few Europe loving airhead rich hipsters, last time I investigated.

    2) Russia has entered a very tricky, gloomy and uncertain period of its history since 2000. Sometimes it is scary in imagine what this period will portend. Everyone is waiting. Yes, it appears as though Putin has outlived the admirations many had for him.

    3) The Russian bureaucracy is indeed selling land and forests to Chinese scumbags, the same way they sold to Privatization scumbags and western scumbags back in the 1990s.

    4) Russia will get exactly shit out of its economic alliance with China. Some west-loving creative wanker airheads, and a large part of the left wing pro-Soviet ( or maybe sarcastic Soviet nostalgic) opposition, are sanguine about the profound danger posed by China. As if not ironic enough, the right-wing Republicans in DC after two years jostling with Trump, also came to the same conclusion.

    5) The traditionalist “racist” “white guard” “monarchist” “Russian soul” type of right wing romanticist patriotic opposition seems to suffer collective cognizance retardation when it comes to China. Saker has the same blindness. This is also interesting. They are more stupid than their ancestors back in 1916-1918. The White Guards were as responsible for Tsar’s downfall as Miliukov or Kerensky. The cultural gene pool of Russia today will not permit the growing up of people such as Lenin and Trotsky, with corresponding political genius, resoluteness, or maniacal cruelty, whatever. Woe, tragedy of Russia.

  49. padre says:

    If the oposition is like the author, it is no wonder, why it is not “real”!

  50. Mike P says:
    @FB

    Xi has been more effective than Putin

    Difficult to say how much of that difference is due to the sort of human resources they have to work with though. Xi certainly had a much more functional country to start with. Overall, both of them are clearly among the most impressive leaders currently on the world stage.

  51. The Russian people should thank God for Putin and as an American I thank God that Putin has checkmated the unholy trinity ie the US and Israel and Britain and their terrorists ie the CIA and the Mossad and MI6 the creators of AL CIADA aka ISIS and all the offshoots thereof.

    Putin is the only zane head of state on the world stage and has saved Syria from the Christian killing terrorists created and supplied and supported by the unholy trinity.

    God bless Putin and the Russian people.

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  52. MLK says:

    The decline in Putin’s approval rating/popularity is an emphatically positive indicator for Russia that the existential or at least catastrophic geopolitical threats to Russia have greatly lessened.

    Putin has been The Indispensable Man since he came to power. He is (very) roughly akin to FDR. While Putin is a vigorous man, he strikes me as understanding that effecting the peaceful transition of power Russia-style, will seal his legacy as among the greatest Russian rulers.

    Get ready, because you and your readers’ heads are about to pop . . . . .

    Israel and Netanyahu were and remain in a similar position. The Obama Administration attempted to regime change Netanyahu out. That’s why Israelis engaged in a similar Better Safe Than Sorry the election previous to this most recent one. Netanyahu barely won last time because the external threat had passed with the passing of the Obama Administration. The only reason he got as close as he did to winning and being able to form a government is because of POTUS Trump.

    The Saker lost his way due to what some call Trump Derangement Syndrome. I’ve never like that catchall term because the more intelligent suffering from it are really blinded by resentment toward the man.

    Whether any of you wish to get your minds around it or not, he has become the most powerful POTUS in modern memory. He represents a sharp break from the increasingly Figurehead/Pitchman POTUSs of the post-Cold War period.

    It’s long past the time for you and many of your readers to knock it off with the folding table in front of the student union wackiness. What with all the shouting about “AngloZionists” and such.

    The Post-Cold War quarter century is effectively over. China won it, hands down. Now POTUS Trump is sufficiently able to exercise his Article II powers for even those blinded by resentment toward him to see the US Sovereign is once again coherently pursuing its geopolitical and geo-economic objectives.

    For Russia/Putin this is altogether positive. The US Sovereign is now “Deal Capable/Ready.”

  53. Agent76 says:

    Apr 24, 2019 Rand Corporation: How to Destroy Russia

    Force the adversary to expand recklessly in order to unbalance him, and then destroy him. This is not the description of a judo hold, but a plan against Russia elaborated by the Rand Corporation, the most influential think tank in the USA. With a staff of thousands of experts, Rand presents itself as the world’s most reliable source for Intelligence and political analysis for the leaders of the United States and their allies.

    Overextending and Unbalancing Russia

    Assessing the Impact of Cost-Imposing Options

    https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB10014.html

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/rand-corp-how-destroy-russia/5678456

    March 31, 2019 Russia is dumping US dollars and hoarding gold

    Vladimir Putin’s quest to break Russia’s reliance on the U.S. dollar has set off a literal gold rush.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-29/russia-is-stocking-up-on-gold-as-putin-ditches-u-s-dollars

    Nov 29, 2016 The Map That Shows Why Russia Fears War With US

  54. OY VEY, NOT DA NAZIS! SHUT IT DOWN!

    You Russophiles are pathetic.

  55. I’m surprised that Shoigu’s numbers are that low, as I’ve heard that is quite capable at his job, and in some quarters he has even been pegged as a possible successor to Putin. I don’t see the latter happening though, as I suspect the Russian population won’t accept a leader as Asian-looking as him.

  56. @Yuritarasovych

    – Piteous mewling about Great Russian chauvinism? Check.
    – Myth that Russians only appeared in Novorossiya (a region conquered by Russian arms in the 18th century) as a result of the Holodomor? Check.
    – Wet dreams of Chinese overrunning Siberia? Check.

    This is like a walking talking svidomy bot LOL.

    • Agree: DreadIlk
    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  57. sally says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Soon after Russia joins NATO all of nations will have s-500’s

    Extra points for the paper that makes Putin an enemy of the governed people of Russia?

    What’s the damage report in Syria after the Israeli bombing of Syria yesterday?

    Has Assange succumbed to Novachok yet?

  58. In TASS BULLETIN dated 31.5.2019 the Approval Rating of President Putin

    as Tested by the Russian Public Opinion Research Center is measured to 64.7 %

    .. quite DIFFERENT from the 31-7 % stated in above Article .

    So WHOM shall I believe ?

    The difference is so big that it hardly can be explained away by Statistical Error !

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  59. APilgrim says:

    This is a particularly well written paragraph:

    I hope that the newly emerging “patriotic” opposition will focus its wrath not on Putin as a person, but on the mistakes of the Russian government wherever they happen: President, Prime Minister, Minister or below – it should not matter. If the opposition succeeds in focusing on issues rather than venting its rage against specific individuals, then real changes become possible, including personnel changes.

    Constructive political processes & loyal opposition are also entirely missing in the USA.

  60. Wally says:
    @Exile

    said:
    “Russians who believe in Russian ethno-nationalism are Westernized tools of the “alt-Right?” Like Solzhenitsyn?”

    Please explain.

  61. APilgrim says:
    @DESERT FOX

    Mostly agree.

    Vladimir Putin is the de facto head of Christendom.

    US Sanctions against Putin & Russia are entirely without justification.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  62. Putin did not save Russia single-handedly. He was and is just a front man for the forces that did. Even in the 1990s, when the traitors ruled the roost in Russia, a lot of people sabotaged traitorous actions of Yeltsin and associated oligarchs. Many ballistic missiles that were supposed to be destroyed were actually kept intact, as well as many production facilities. That’s the only reason Russia came back from what appeared to be the ashes so quickly. It is very likely that Putin’s rise to power was organized by those same forces. The most plausible scenario is that patriotic forces in the military, KGB, and police, seeing wholesale treason of Yeltsin and his cronies, presented Yeltsin with an ultimatum: either he resigns, promotes Putin, and gets off the hook, or he gets overthrown and prosecuted for his crimes. Remember, the first act of Putin as president was a wholesale pardon to Yeltsin and his family.

    As to real opposition, Russia does need it. Not the traitorous scum like Navalny, Khodorkovsky, or late unlamented Nemtsov, but people with integrity, whose prime goal is to advance the interests of Russia, rather than just steal as much as possible. What the Saker ignores is the fact that many Russian oligarchs (I have no illusions about them: they are all mega-thieves, many are murderers, like Khodorkovsky) learned the lesson of Ukrainian oligarchs: unless you have a strong state behind you, other equally unscrupulous thieves will gladly steal your loot.

    Realistically, serious patriotic opposition in Russia will emerge when smarter oligarchs join forces with those fighting for social justice. At that point leaders with savvy and charisma that makes them competitive with Putin have a chance of emerging. The opposition won’t be knights in shining armor, but it will be a force capable of ruling the country, not just criticizing the rulers. The first task is really hard, whereas any moron can criticize any government making valid points. The policies of the opposition must be mostly middle-of-the-road: limit (but not eliminate) the opportunities for oligarchs’ thievery, and use un-stolen resources to improve the life of ordinary people. In foreign policy, it must keep a strong stance against the crumbling Empire, joining tactical alliances with all other anti-imperial countries and forces.

    • Replies: @Sergey Krieger
  63. Avery says:
    @FB

    {…Xi has been more effective than Putin,}

    As poster [Mike P] wrote, Xi had a much more functional country to work with.
    The Chinese new Long March started long before Xi, with Deng. Maybe before him even.

    Putin inherited a Russia on the brink of collapse – courtesy of drunkard Yelstin: while he was drinking and partying, the country was being looted to the tune $100s of billions…..and the loot ending up in England, Israel, and who knows where else.

    The fundamental strength of Chinese is that the country is being run by some kind of patriotic committee, that is highly fault-tolerant and immune to Western interference. Xi, like his predecessors, is just a colorless bureaucrat: the Long March continues, no matter who the front man is. It is unthinkable that the Committee would allow someone like Yeltsin to run the country into the ground.

    Putin & Co need to solve this fundamental weakness of Russia, while he is in power and can change things. Otherwise, another Yeltsin might come along and wreck everything.

    • Agree: Parfois1
    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @FB
  64. @Avery

    Russian people won’t accept another traitor like Yeltsin. But things can be wrecked in more ways than one. Dumb patriot would be just as destructive.

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  65. @APilgrim

    Russia under Putin is the largest grain exporter in the world and has been for the last 3 years and if anyone doubts how Russian farming has entered the modern world just go to youtube and watch the videos on Russian agriculture.

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  66. @Anatoly Karlin

    Seeing how Ukies managed to turn Ukraine into a pile of shit, the only way to profit by their advice is this: listen to what they have to say and do exactly opposite.

  67. @Ole C G Olesen

    Because the question that Saker cites is to pluck the names of politicians you trust out of thin air, whereas in the other methodology you are presented with a specific choice.

    They didn’t change methodology, but rather added a new question.

    So, trust is now calculated with two questions:

    Which politicians do you trust? (old)

    30% trust Putin, 6% don’t trust Putin.

    Do you trust politician X? (new)

    72% trust Putin, 25% don’t trust Putin.

    Arguably, it’s a good thing, since the first question is slightly misleading without context. People may look at a headline “30% Russians trust Putin” and think that 70% don’t trust him.

    So in reality, this is a nothingburger that the Western media has generated and which Saker – hilariously – has eagerly lapped up.

    The reality is that Putin’s approval ratings went down from around 80% to around 65% after the pensions reform a year ago and things have remained broadly the same since.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  68. FB says: • Website
    @Avery

    I agree on that point…

    But what’s overlooked is how much Xi has turned things around also…the country was seriously veering when he took decisive steps to neuter an emerging oligarchic class…things could be very different in China today if someone else had come in…Xi cleaned a lot of house, but that is generally overlooked…but consider how the anti Xi and anti China rhetoric in the west has ramped up…that’s a direct measure of Xi’s effectiveness…

    Putin needs to get rid of Medvedev, Siluanov and Nabiullina just for a start…then a number of banks and large private corporations need to be nationalized…after 20 years of playing the capitalist game, it’s clear that this is a losing game…

    Russia needs to make domestic capital available for things like massive infrastructure projects and big science and technology…PCR, probably the most astute Russia ‘hand’, certainly on the subject of economics, has stated the obvious fact that these kinds of state investments [and printing the money to do that]… are NOT inflationary…I keep waiting for that to happen, but it never does…I think Putin is just too cautious for big moves like that…

    The question is whether anyone else will do it…?

    Russia needs an Uncle Joe…but they just don’t build them like that anymore…

    • Replies: @Parfois1
  69. Cyrano says:
    @Epigon

    Croats and Bosnian Muslims have similar attitudes towards religion – they want their religion to be elevated to the status of Nationality. The Bosnian Muslims even used to declare themselves as “Muslim” by nationality, until they were renamed into “Bosniaks” by the always very helpful west.

    Croats also prefer to identify with their religion, because they are “ashamed” to admit “something that they are not” – which is Slavs. Good luck to both of them.

    To me, blood is more important than religion. The religions came and one day they will go, and then you’ll be left wondering if it was all worth it – to fight over something that’s nothing more than a fairy tale and identify with something that you imagine will make part of something better, while denying what you actually are and what can be genetically proven that you are.

    Croats display religious fanaticism of which even some Islamic countries would be envious. They think that their religion makes them European. They forget one thing – such religious fever Catholicism hasn’t experienced since the days of the inquisition – which was in the middle ages.

    So I guess the Croats are right in a sense – their religion does make them part of Europe – the medieval one. The Bosnian Muslims are equally delusional about their religion and ethnicity, but then again nothing is normal in the Balkans.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  70. Parbes says:
    @anonandanon

    I think you forgot to take your meds again, probably.

    • Replies: @anonandanon
  71. peterAUS says:
    @Epigon

    Interesting.
    A quick question, if I may:
    Contents of your comment….what is your feel, how much of that an average Serb, with roots from regions west of Drina river, believes in, as we speak? Not those born east of the river, just west.
    100 %….75….50?
    Or, perhaps it’s just too sensitive information for public discourse. Your call.

    • Replies: @Epigon
  72. @Cyrano

    Sorry, as a Croat, to inform you- you are a moron. You simply don’t know what you are talking about.

    As for Serbs, those Anadolian semen receptacles: they are not worth wasting anyone’s attention. Their folklore, a picturesque Ottoman-style presentation, tells it all.

    • Replies: @RI
    , @Epigon
    , @Cyrano
  73. RI says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Thanks for the video, very beautiful.
    I don’t understand your smirking, definitely centuries of Ottoman occupation left its mark, but these people obviously managed to assimilate it in their own culture and it is not Anadolian anymore. BTW, Turks who came from Middle Asia also adopted the folklore of the lokals, not to mention their genes , too. On what grounds you think that your culture and folklore are superior?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  74. @RI

    I don’t think that my folklore & culture are superior. I am just fed up with morons who back-pat Serbian mythological idiocies about themselves & their neighbors.

  75. Epigon says:
    @peterAUS

    Believe?
    Vast majority have no idea of any of this information, because a vast majority of any nation are simpletons.

    There is nothing to “believe” in my posts, I have written a short, simplified overview – every claim and statement can be easily cross-checked and backed by primary sources.
    The catch is that no one bothers to do so – detractors have their private national histories (Bardon Kaldian pompous imbecile – average Internet Croat), while those that have the patience and desire to research such matters on their own already know them.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  76. Epigon says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Riddle me this, imbecile – average height in Turkey far below Serbia’s average height that includes Gypsies (assimilated and non-assimilated, Cincars/Aromani, Hungarians and TurkoBosniaks in Raška, all significantly shorter than pure Serb areas like Old Herzegovina and Šumadija)?

    As a Croat, you should be the last who writes on Anatolian admixture and Turkish genes – Alilović, Alić, Halilović, Musa, Gojun, Jarak, Subašić and practically entire Herzegovina and Dalmatian hinterlands all look like Turkish offspring.

    Even better, every single Croat nationalist ideologue glorified Muslims and proclaimed them purest Croats.

    A mongrel nation of converted and assimilated Habsburg settlers from various crown lands, leftover peasants, Serb Grenzers and immigrants from Ottoman-ruled Bosnia and Herzegovina.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  77. @Epigon

    Turske ojebine bolje da se zabiju u mišju rupu, gdje i spadaju.

    • Replies: @Epigon
  78. Cyrano says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    So you think you are Aryan, compared to the Serbs? Have you looked in the mirror lately, you Croat ape?

    I bet that what you see in it are not exactly Nordic features. Or have you been able to lie to yourself that what you see in the mirror is just Mediterranean hue, you Croat Dalit.

    Croats are the lowest of the low among the Slavs – they are the only ones that deny that they are Slavs. Compared to you, the Polish and the Ukrainians come off as model citizens – at least they would never deny that they are Slavs – they are proud of it.

    Not that anyone wants you among us, but if that’s the case, if you don’t want to be one of us, don’t you think you should start paying royalties for using one of our Slavic languages – Serbian?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  79. ‘Murka wants regime change in Russia,
    CIA at play.
    Russians are turning to God and Church,
    Christ her King to stay.

  80. peterAUS says:
    @Epigon

    Believe?
    Vast majority have no idea of any of this information, because a vast majority of any nation are simpletons.

    Don’t say, re majority.
    Still…the question remains for elite there. There IS an elite in that part of Serbian nation/ethnicity/whatever, I guess.

    There is nothing to “believe” in my posts, I have written a short, simplified overview – every claim and statement can be easily cross-checked and backed by primary sources.

    Well…………
    You appear to be onto the game. And, not overly abusive in communication here. Well…hehe…save that “imbecile average Internet Croat”, but, I guess that’s normal for online chat between Croats and Serbs. Or it is Serbs and Croats.

    So, I do have some doubts about some elements re that overview of yours. Not so much about the letter but the spirit.

    MIPRI involvement you mentioned. Fact.
    The effect, result, of that fact on Croatian armed forces re “delivery” in ’95 not so. The collapse of Serbian regions wasn’t so much about the strength of the attacker but much more with the weakness of the defender.
    Your primary sources re that topic would be helpful. Like, say…..battalion level C.O’s. Not intellectuals, politicians, Generals and stuff. Just little…little…majors and lt-colonels of Serb army of the time and place.
    Their take on the state of their units and (Serb) land forces at the time/place in general. Training, discipline, leadership, unit cohesion and such. Last but definitely not least, related to the very first paragraph of this comment, TRUST in their elites, local in particular.
    Would you be able to point to those, please.

    Now, not keen to start debating that here I am afraid.
    What I am interested in, have you guys figured out why that weakness, then and there?

    Tens of thousands of foreign jihadis arrived to Bosnia, coordinated by the West.

    That number? Source, please.

    • Replies: @Epigon
    , @Bardon Kaldian
  81. Epigon says:
    @peterAUS

    When it became obvious that UNPA zones in Croatia were fair game, UNCRO (previous UNPROFOR) standing idle even when taking casualties (compare to Bosnia) the resistance would have been pointless – 20-25k armed locals and volunteers vs. 200k West supported and US “advisor” trained Croats who had all the time they needed since 1992 and YPA retreat overseen by Western observers.
    Remnant Yugoslavia (Serbia&Montenegro) was sanctioned into oblivion, NATO ground and air forces were already intervening in Bosnia&Herzegovina – nothing could prevent the Croat onslaught – when the Bljesak/Lighting operation attack on a UNPA zone and violation of UN-mandated ceasefire and economic cooperation agreement from December 1994 resulted in verbal garbage and 0 consequences, plans were probably drawn up to evacuate as many people as possible in case of a West supported attack on the rest of “Krajina”. Saving as many lives as possible and avoiding one-sided slaughter was optimal – the fate of those who didn’t flee is easy to guess.
    Croats never attacked east Slavonia areas bordering Serbia around Danube – they got them back through “peaceful integration” – the focus was on isolated and exposed “Krajina” – they knew all too well they would get thrashed in an actual war.
    The initial attack in August 1995 started with American planes hitting radars and communication hubs.

    If you are interested in American POV during “advisory” work, or the airstrike details – reportedly initially claimed as “UN mandated” I can do a more thorough post tomorrow.
    The total foreign participation can never be correctly appraised – diaspora, Arabs, Pakis fluctuated but 7th Muslim Brigade and El Mujaheed were both foreign-dominated and several thousand strong despite continuous losses.

    Saker is an idiot – Orthodoxy has been a bastion against Islam, both in the Balkans and in the Steppe and Caucasus.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  82. Epigon says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Kaj si rekel? Znerviral se indolentni mužek zgleda, popustila bečka škola

  83. APilgrim says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin was the legitimate President of the Russian Federation from 1991 -1999. The failed communist coup d’état to overthrow his government was NOT a patriotic movement. When Yeltsin climbed upon the tank it was a riveting historical moment.

  84. None of the commentators seem to show the minimum awareness of the following, except for the gent from Tennessee: 1) the acute psychological and practical importance of social justice for basic Russian people; and 2) harder to define to basically totalitarian capitalistic essence of the Chinese model. This shows that A) you all live in the West, B) with good justification are obsessed with a burning hatred against Globalist empire and you throw out the baby of basic values of freedom and democracy with the dirty water western propaganda bubble, C) you guys don’t realize how many Russians live on 30,000 rubles a month, and you project this rosy hope on them ( saving the west with “conservative Christian values and brave fight against globalism”…) 4) you guys have not the remotest ideas of how the petty Chinese traders and their large state corporations behave, when the other party happens to be not some tall Anglo-saxon / Jew whose white asses the Chinese want to lick. Many Russians on the other hand, have such first hand experience.

  85. APilgrim says:
    @DESERT FOX

    USA total grain exports are roughly twice that of Russia, and 3 times that of Brazil.

    USA: https://www.statista.com/statistics/190348/total-us-grain-exports-from-2001/
    Brazil: https://www.world-grain.com/articles/11371-focus-on-brazil
    Russia: https://www.fas.usda.gov/data/russia-grain-and-feed-annual-2

    Nevertheless, Russia is a large grain exporting nation.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  86. peterAUS says:
    @Epigon

    Well, let’s just say we have a COUPLE of conflicting points about affairs 92-95 in Balkans, but I am sure we also know debating that online isn’t the best use of our time.

    Saker is an idiot – Orthodoxy has been a bastion against Islam, both in the Balkans and in the Steppe and Caucasus.

    There we agree, especially re “….Orthodoxy has been a bastion against Islam, both in the Balkans….”.

    Now, obvious attitude between your and Croat (Internet) teams notwithstanding, weren’t Catholics, in Balkans, during Ottoman presence there, also part of that bastion?
    Croats I mean…of all people. Oh my…..
    True, that was before the notion of Nation etc.

    So, IMHO, for Croat nationalists the Archenemy was, is, and quite likely will always be Serbs. In order to go against The Enemy, Croats will align with the Devil himself I guess.

    Still, re future, during the events in Bosnia 93-94, weren’t Croats, with Serbs, actually actively working together against the “third party” there?

    Bottom line, wouldn’t be possible, in not so distant future, that those two teams join forces, temporarily of course, to address the issue of Islam there?
    Naturally, as soon as they resolve that issue they’d get on each other throats again with gusto, but one step at the time.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  87. @APilgrim

    That is not what I read, and I doubt the US reporting, for instance the zio/US reports unemployment at around 4%, when it is around 21%, I don’t believe a damn thing this zio/US gov reports.

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  88. @Cyrano

    You are an obscurantist know nothing. You don’t know how pan-Slavic ideology (a form of supra-national movement stemming from a weakness & not from self- reliance & maturity, similar to pan-Turanism & pan-Germanism) came into existence; you don’t know who the protagonists of it had been & which were their motives; you don’t know Croatian ideological history & a mixture of humanist fantasies which emerged during the period of Humanism (14th C), feeding on old chronicles & “sources” on early Croatian history (Historia Salonitana, Liber Methodos, early Byzantine chroniclers, Presbyter of Dioclea,..); you don’t know about the Renaissance fantasies of Croatian early ideologue Vinko Pribojević from Hvar &, later, Juraj Križanić; you don’t know about humanist fantasies linking St. Jerome to Croats & its expression in works by French Kabbalist & polymath Guillaume Postel, nor about Baroque Slavism of the early 17th C which gave rise to the first standardization efforts of Croatian language (Bartol Kašić, Jakov Mikalja… based on strong opinions of Faust Vrančić, pater Kristek, Stanislaus Hosius, Alfonso Carillo ,…)- – for those who can read Croatian: http://www.matica.hr/vijenac/433/hrvatski-jezik-normiran-je-u-17-stoljecu-1563/ – Hrvatski jezik normiran je u 17. stoljeću; http://bib.irb.hr/datoteka/671336.Grcevic_Vijenac_2013-_516_-_517.pdf or http://www.matica.hr/vijenac/516%20-%20517/Dubrova%C4%8Dka%20knji%C5%BEevnost%20ni%20u%20kojem%20smislu%20nije%20sastavni%20dio%20srpske%20knji%C5%BEevnosti/ – Dubrovačka književnost ni u kojem smislu nije sastavni dio srpske književnosti.

    After all, you don’t know what the designations Croat, Dalmatian, Slav, Schiavo, Goth, Illyrian, Slovin, Slavonian, Diocleatian, Servian, Moesian, Bosnian, …meant for various writers & ethnic subgroups from 10th to 19th C.

    In other words- better avoid topics you’re clueless about.

    • Replies: @Epigon
  89. @peterAUS

    I don’t know what you waste time with usual Serbian narrative. Basically, Croatia got from Germany & the US – nothing re arms & military. MPRI was just a latecomer which profited from publicity, but I attended a few of their classes & it was mostly about nuances of military behavior during the battle & not breaking humanitarian practices.

    In short, we assembled ca. 165,000 highly motivated & trained soldiers against 40-50,000 exhausted Serbian soldiers in the sector west, while 55,000 our soldiers were dug in to prevent possible Serbian attack from Serbia proper (all in all, ca. 210,000 soldiers who wanted to finish this for all). Milošević himself admitted that Serbs fled like rabbits & it was a wise decision of Serbia to stay put. I agree. If they had, in 1-2 days, attacked Croatian soldiers, they should have committed 150,000 people to a vary small area & would have been butchered senselessly.

    As for Serbs fleeing- it was also expected. They stood no chance, and if they tried to defend themselves for, say, a week, they would have been killed in thousands, perhaps tens of thousands. So, after all – they’ve chosen if not wisely, then instinctively good for themselves.

    They fled.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Epigon
  90. @APilgrim

    The worst and most tragic moment in Russian history. Outcomes speak louder than nonsense you write. I am damn sure majority of those suckers who elected him and supported during this moment wou lik d bite their elbows few years later. But the train had left the station by then.

  91. @AnonFromTN

    I think you put too much faith in olygarhy somehow coming to their senses and becoming socially responsive. It is going to get a lot worse once their pumpered no good for nothing kids take their fathers place. Unfortunately I see no real opposition and figures to lead so far. But as Lenin told, the worse the the better. Once situation becomes worse for ordinary people the more active they become and chances increase for someone of real abilities and character to emerge to challenge this criminal regime of thieves.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  92. @APilgrim

    Yeltsin was legitimate until 1993. Dismissing vice president and shooting, and then dismissing parliament was unconstitutional. He became even less legitimate when his goons falsified two rounds of the presidential elections in 1996, making him a winner of the vote he lost badly. In addition, he was an alcoholic, traitor, and mega-thief. End of story.

  93. @JOHN CHUCKMAN

    Saker often spews nonsense and lies. A good example is the statement,

    Personally, I believe that Putin, as any other officer of the First Main Directorate (foreign intelligence) of the KGB always understood that the West was a mortal enemy of Russia and that this has been true for at least 1000 years.

    Russia has not been distrusted by the west for anything close to such a length of time. During much of that time Russia didn’t even exist, and lot of the subsequent history of Muscovy is written in terms of the Mongols as they owned the place. Russia remained a backwater into modern times and still is to a great extent. The Soviet Union made itself an enemy of the free world, but has had a chance to come into the modern world as a normal member of the family of nations, yet refused to do so under Putin.

    The polls you named would be suspect to any intelligent observer. Putin himself is the problem and there will be no legitimate opposition allowed as long as the mafia runs Russia. Putin is simply the face of that corruption.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  94. @Sergey Krieger

    I have no illusions about oligarchs: they are criminals through and through, like oligarchs in any country. However, the oligarchs that have brains can voluntarily limit their thieving for the sake of self-preservation.

    The other possible scenario is the one you propose: if their greed totally kills their brains, like in the US, the oligarchs and enabling them officials will end up hung on lampposts, like in 1917. However, any revolution destroys more than it intends, so the living standards of ordinary Russians would rise above current levels in 10-20 years at best. Considering that there is predatory dying, but not dead, Empire and powerful China around, Russia might not survive another violent revolution.

  95. APilgrim says:
    @DESERT FOX

    Quote your sources.

    There are many available sources.

    Justify your statements.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  96. @Quartermaster

    Exactly what one would expect from a feeble-minded paid State Department/Soros/Yahu/globohomo shill. It’s time they hired more creative ones, or they are in danger of losing propaganda war.

    • Replies: @anonandanon
  97. @AnonFromTN

    What is the proper way to impale a GREEDY CHEATING CLASS LIBERAL OLIGARCH with a sharp wooden stake up the arse through the mouth in an open field?…And do we watch and enjoy this with a red wine….white wine….or a six pack?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  98. Parfois1 says:
    @FB

    Russia needs an Uncle Joe…but they just don’t build them like that anymore…

    … and a good old-fashion purge.

    But it will not happen while the pussy-footing Putin types are in charge. I suspect Shoigu is a capable man of good mettle but lacks the grit to take the plunge. He’s not a politician anyway.

  99. @Parfois1

    Shoigu’s Japanese-style palace:

    Also an avid katana collector. Needless to say all far beyond his official salary for a guy who worked for the government all his life. Yes, the epitome of a honest to goodness military man. Who, incidentally, never actually served a day in the military. Not that I particularly care, but it seems that you do.

    Shoigu was also opposed or at least distinctly unenthusiastic about the Crimea Operation, if Zygar in All The Kremlin’s Men is to be believed. There’s some “mettle”, LOL.

    Really, the delusions that Western Russophiles have about Russia are almost as hilarious as the rantings of neocons such as Quartermaster or the svidomy Ukrainian above.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  100. @War for Blair Mountain

    Either way would serve him/her right. The only real problem is, how to do it causing minimal damage to the country. That was the stumbling block of all revolutions so far.

  101. @Parfois1

    FYI: while more than half of Russian citizens have generally positive view of uncle Joe, fewer than 1/3rd would want to live under his rule. I’d say they have pretty good reasons for both. Heraclitus was right: you cannot enter the same river twice.

    • Replies: @FB
  102. @Parbes

    Such a typical shtetl reply.

  103. peterAUS says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I don’t know what you waste time with usual Serbian narrative.

    Well, my (proven) take on similar matters is: you wade through a lot of material until you figure out some things. As long as exchange of information is more or less within some reasonable civil parameters all good.
    As to “why” interest in such topics, here it is, sort of (maybe somebody else could add something): Serb region “Krajina”; Chechnya; Tamil Eelam. Especially the first and the last (the enemy wasn’t as overwhelming as in the second case).
    My impression is that both entities (and Checnya too, actually) failed to defend itself because of internal rot of society there.
    That could open a question: why internal rot in a society which fought hard to gain independence.
    Something like that…..

    As for this:

    Basically, Croatia got from Germany & the US – nothing re arms & military. MPRI was just a latecomer which profited from publicity, but I attended a few of their classes & it was mostly about nuances of military behavior during the battle & not breaking humanitarian practices.

    In short, we assembled ca. 165,000 highly motivated & trained soldiers against 40-50,000 exhausted Serbian soldiers in the sector west, while 55,000 our soldiers were dug in to prevent possible Serbian attack from Serbia proper (all in all, ca. 210,000 soldiers who wanted to finish this for all). Milošević himself admitted that Serbs fled like rabbits & it was a wise decision of Serbia to stay put. I agree. If they had, in 1-2 days, attacked Croatian soldiers, they should have committed 150,000 people to a vary small area & would have been butchered senselessly.

    As for Serbs fleeing- it was also expected. They stood no chance, and if they tried to defend themselves for, say, a week, they would have been killed in thousands, perhaps tens of thousands. So, after all – they’ve chosen if not wisely, then instinctively good for themselves.

    Well….re “I attended a few of their classes” I assume you do have some military background so let’s say we have a different take on a couple of things above, but as I already said to the other fellow, no need for both of us to waste our time on debating that. Hehe…I guess we know how those chats tend to look like on the Internet.

    In all my time studying, of sort, the events in summer ’95 re Croat-Serb conflict only ONCE, several years ago, I came across a Serb mid-level commander not minding to spill his guts out; we had a nice little chat over a bottle of JD, and, let’s say it was most revealing. The man, IMHO, pointed, ruthlessly, in minute detail, to the weaknesses of his own side resulting in that collapse. My impression was, and still is: the collapse was directly related to Serb elites, both local and all the way up to Belgrade.
    Not important, actually. What IS important….my impression is, they (Serbian elites) haven’t learnt anything from it.
    That, itself, could open some deeper and wider questions but those aren’t…..appropriate….for this pub.
    Anyway……

  104. jean says:

    “Finally, this new patriotic opposition seems to lack an original worldview: much of their argumentation boils down to “it was better in the Soviet era” (they typically tend to overlook how bad things indeed were, at least since the 1980s!).”

    The truth is, as “bad” as things were in the 1980s (because of class traitors like Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Putin & Co) the Russian working class was better off then than it is today.

    Contrary to the authors’ claim about the opposition’s world view, since the USSR was founded on internationalist principles, the opposition does indeed have an original world view, ie, an Internationalist Socialist one.

    The opposition represents the workers who want Socialism back. To gauge how popular this movement is among Russian workers all one needs to do is look at the pics of the recent May 9, 2019, Victory Day Parade in Moscow where there were more Soviet flags than Russian Federation flags.

    “Cold War II”, “Russiagate”, anti-Russian sanctions, etc were a lifesaver for Putin and his neoliberal oligarch friends. It enabled them whip up fear of the US thereby arousing Russian nationalist passions the purpose of which was to distract from the austerity caused by capitalism.

    Putin’s March 2018 staged announcement of Russia’s “advanced hypersonic weaponry” was no doubt intended to give Putin a jolt in popularity. But it turned out to produce the opposite effect since these weapons are supposed to blunt the US “threat”. No threat, no fear, no nationalist smokescreen.

    There are no well-known leaders of the working class opposition because Putin and his FSS have either locked them up, assassinated them or they are simply ignored by the Russian mainstream media.

    Saker is a well-paid propagandist for the Russian oligarchs. In this article he is acting as apologist for Putin and Co while marginalizing the opposition.

    • Disagree: Sergey Krieger
    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @peterAUS
  105. Epigon says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    “Bartol Kašić” Bartolomeo Cassio had to learn “Illyrian language” in Bosnia and Belgrade.

    A Croat from Pag had to go for a study travel and learn the local language.

    He wrote “Illyrian” grammar you imbecile, and this “Illyrian” language was spoken by “neighbouring non-Catholic Christians” “who lost their way” = Orthodox Serbs. He clearly distinguishes Croat, Dalmatian and “Illyrian” language – he was commisioned and his work and travel funded by Jesuits as part of Counter-Reformation and spread of Catholicism in the Balkans.

    You haven’t read either of his books, you pompous retard. You didn’t even get to the introduction part.

  106. Epigon says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    BND was smuggling East German AKs and Armbrusts in 1990 already.
    You are a compendium of Croat braindead propaganda – “55 000 defenders”.

  107. Epigon says:

    P. W. Singer’s book Corporate Warriors provides some insight into American and Western involvement with the Croats.

    Pentagon had concluded a 2 billion dollar deal for military operations in the Balkans – key actors were Brown and Root Services corporation and MPRI. Retired generals and officers were given green light to “advise” and orchestrate the entire campaign.
    Gojko Šušak, Croatia’s MOD, had signed a 2 year deal with Americam advisors.
    The spokesman of UNCRO falsely claimed that missile attacks on radar and communication installations of Krajina Serbs were done at the request of UN.

    Naturally, the Croat hasn’t read a single actual book or primary sounce – his “knowledge” is based on reading Croat propaganda and nonsense – he unironically posted Croat post-1990 linguistic works which are regarded as an utter joke in the world – creative fabrications and mind-boggling mental gymnastics, going to the extent of claiming that so-called “Ustavna ćirilica” of 11th and 12th century was a Croat script, let alone proclaiming a prayer book that contains the phrase “in literra et idiomato Seruiano” is proof of Croat language and script.

  108. Seraphim says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    The reliability of the polls has been amply demonstrated in the recent Australian Federal elections. All were suggesting a Labor victory.

  109. Seraphim says:
    @Quartermaster

    More Ukrainian nonsense: Russians=Mongols.
    Why not: Ukrainians=Khazars as they loved to identify themselves?

  110. @peterAUS

    Let me school you on the issue (although it can be done only sketchily & is not of much interest to anyone else).

    1. in past 500-600 years national issue was not the central one. It became crucial from around 1830s.

    2. during past 500 years many “Serbs” (actually, a mixture of proper Serbs & partially Serbianized Vlachs, Albanians, Bulgarians, Greeks,…) had been migrating, following Ottoman armies, to what is now Croatia & ca. 50-70% of what is now Bosnia & Herzegovina. These people were Eastern Orthodox & called themselves Vlachs &, in a few instances, Serbs. Ottoman sources almost exclusively call them “Serbs” by religion (Srb-milleti). At the same time, the process of Islamization of local South Slavic populations of what are now Croatia, Bosnia, Montenegro & Serbia proper was under way. Local Catholics were much more vulnerable because their centers of power had been outside (Rome, Venice, Habsburg empire,..), while Orthodox inhabitants were treated more leniently because their spiritual center was under the Ottoman control & no Orthodox force, until Russia much later, was their adversary. So, many local Catholics who went by proto-national & regional names (Dalmatians, Croats, Bosnians,..) had been Islamized; those Orthodox Slavs who had been Islamized, from Serbia, Montenegro to Bulgaria lost their ethnic identity in Ottoman officials’ eyes (because “Greeks” and “Serbs” could be only Orthodox), while Croats retained it. Thus there is a phenomenon that there were from late 1400s to early 1700s many highly placed Ottoman officials bearing the cognomen “Croat” (Rustem Pasha Croat), while no one bears the cognomen “Serb”- because it was, according to Ottoman classifications, a denomination, not an ethnicity. In Turkish eyes, “Croats” were in many cases not only ancestors of contemporary Croats, but any South Slav, any variant of Christianity, who had converted to Islam.

    Thus, paradoxically, Croatian name is much more prevalent in Ottoman sources than in Western (Venetian, Habsburg, French, English,…), where due to historical confusions various names for ancient tribes (Illyrians, Slovins, even Goths..) had been more applied to historical Croats & marginally all South Slavs. Also, due to that confusion rooted in medieval Croatian Glagolitic literary culture, some important early (15th-17th C) Croatian authors call all Slavs (including Poles and Russians) generic “Croats”.

    3. local Eastern Orthodox who had settled in Croatian & Bosnian lands did not have a clear ethnic self-consciousness. In most records they are called Vlachs; in many others, they were referred to by others, as they were by themselves, as “Croats”. What did they mean by that, we don’t know. Also, their priests had retained elements of medieval Serbian literary culture, so in elite Orthodox circles, the ancestors of contemporary Croatian Serbs were frequently called “Serbs” or “Slavo-Serbs”.

    4. during period of ca. 100 years, i.e. post-Napoleonic time to the start of the WW 1, for most modern Croats chief enemies had been Hungarians, Germans & Italians, while Serbs had been treated either as deluded Orthodox Croats or close cousins somewhere in the East; Bosnian Muslims were considered, “racially”, to be Croats & there was, in the spirit of 19th C liberal nationalism, no need for their re-conversion to Christianity.

    5. from 1918- 1991, many things had happened, but the life in 2 Yugoslav states finally crystallized peoples around religion & historical cultures. Apart from Macedonians & Slovenes, Catholics were Croats, Orthodox were Serbs & Muslims were first Muslims by nationality, then they changed their name to Bosniaks. From Croatian perspective, Western peoples like Hungarians or Germans ceased to be enemies simply because they were not here anymore & there was no threat from them; Serbs are the central enemies who had been defeated in Croatia, but they remain in Bosnia & Herzegovina a problem- if they behave well, there can be cooperation with them, especially when their Serbian central gives up their provincial imperial dreams. As for Muslims/Bosniaks, there are very few of them who are Croatian nationalists “of Islamic faith”; basically, they are considered to be a new, separate South Slavic people not easy to deal with because they, Bosnian Muslims, are riding on the wave of infantile national fantasies & would like to subdue both Croats & Serbs in Bosnia & Herzegovina.

    So, Serbs remain chief adversary with potential of becoming an uneasy neighbor; Muslims are unpredictable & volatile element which can be used as allies in difficult times, but are generally culturally foreign people who are here to stay in the vicinity, but are too different & immature in their behavior, oscillating between Ottoman nostalgias & inflated new Bosniak nationalism, so there is no consensus what to do with them.

    • LOL: Epigon
    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Seraphim
  111. FB says: • Website
    @AnonFromTN

    You keep repeating that so called ‘poll’ religiously…not aware apparently that, starting with the clown Khruschov the anti Stalin indoctrination in the USSR was relentless…encompassing everything from the standard demonization, to wholesale rewriting of history…invention out of whole cloth of an entire atrocity culture that was completely invented…

    As for public opinion on important matters, the Russian people are much more discerning and critically thinking than the sheep in the west…but still misconceptions longer…including about Stalin…that one third that would want to live under Stalin are probably older people that did live under Stalin…and remember the great things he accomplished for their living standard…it was during Khruschov, Brezhnev and Gorby that living standards started their downward slide…

    Of course that reality was pampered over by rabid anti Stalinist propaganda…as is usually the case in these situations…

    Stalin did purge a lot of useless dead wood…this is his great contribution to political science…a country in dire circumstances is like a ship in a storm…dead weight and even food stores are thrown overboard to save the ship and crew…

    Russia is in a similar situation today…Putin helped stabilize things but he still is incapable of truly cleaning the Augean Stables…

    Even Trump has these sound instincts and actually thought he could do something as POTUS…having no clue that the position is no match for the power of ‘the swamp’ itself…

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @anonandanon
  112. Epigon says:

    [Too much totally off-topic Serb vs. Croatian bickering.]

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  113. Epigon says:

    So, he gets to write his fictional, Ustashe historigraphy account of history (no Serbs in Croatia, just assimilated mutts), and my shorter, thorough, fact- and primary (Croat and Austrian) sources backed post disproving his nonsense gets deleted as “off-topic”.

    Wonderful.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  114. @APilgrim

    Google what country is the largest grain exporter in the world and the answer is Russia.

    • Replies: @Avery
  115. @Anatoly Karlin

    Zygar in All The Kremlin’s Men

    Why stop here–try Goebbels or Nekrasov as sources. Moscow’s rumor mill is a fertile soil for all kinds of kreakls (and grant-eaters) to make their “art” and call it documentary.

  116. @FB

    Let’s not be like lying Western propagandists and stick to the truth.

    First, Khrushchev grossly exaggerated Stalin’s crimes for his own ends, but he did not invent them. Yes, a lot was done for the country, and that’s one of the reasons the USSR beat Nazi Germany to a pulp. Yes, a lot of people who deserved to go to jail actually ended up there. Yet a lot of people who would have been much more beneficial for the country free and alive were repressed and killed (directly or indirectly). Propaganda under Khrushchev and especially Gorby and Yeltsin promoted a lot of lies about uncle Joe, but Brezhnev’s era propaganda did not.

    Living standards of ordinary USSR citizens greatly improved in Brezhnev’s era, as compared to Stalin’s period, although much of these gains were lost under Gorby and even more under Yeltsin. There was a significant recovery in the 21st century, with living standards today much higher than in the best Stalin’s years. What is totally lost now is any kind of social justice: the thieves boast of their loot, whereas under uncle Joe they would have been shot for their thieving.

    Yes, Putin would never clean the Augean Stables simply because oligarchs are one of the pillars of his regime. Still, he curbed wanton looting of the 1990s, and a lot more resources now are used for the benefit of Russia. I agree that the thievery should be limited more and the differential should be used to improve life of ordinary people, not just military capabilities. But overall Putin’s achievements are quite impressive, and painting his rule exclusively with black paint is just as disingenuous as painting the whole Stalin’s period black.

    Yes, people in the USSR were a lot better informed than Western sheeple today. Compared to current Western propaganda, Soviet one was a paragon of truthfulness. It suppressed certain information, it twisted facts to fit the official narrative, but it did not stoop to blatant lies “comrade Ogilvy”-style that now constitute the bulk of “news” in NYT, WP, The Guardian, NPR, CNBC, CNN, etc. But let’s not forget that this is a winning comparison: the level of lies, and especially the uniformity of those lies in the “independent” MSM in the West today, can compare only to the worst periods of Hitler’s and Stalin’s rule. The sheeple in the so-called West keep bleating received wisdom, and that was the whole point of Western propaganda. But let’s not indulge in delusions about Russian population today: the educational system was partially ruined, so the educational level of the populace is way below the one that existed in the last 20 years of the USSR.

    A lot of other things changed, too. The Empire only has a shell of its former power, the elites resorted to undisguised robbery, whereas when the USSR existed they had to share with the working people to create an attractive alternative to the Soviet system. In a way, the destruction of the USSR was the suicide of the current model of capitalism, and now we are witnessing its death throws. Like a headless chicken, it will run around for a while yet, doing a lot of damage, but it won’t acquire a head with brains again. So, we should not stoop to the lies used by its propaganda, as we don’t need to. That’s how RT on a shoestring budget wins the info war with the likes of CNN, BBC, and their ilk: it simply does not need to lie as much.

    • Agree: Cyrano
    • Replies: @FB
  117. Avery says:
    @DESERT FOX

    Interesting topic.

    I tried to lookup largest grain exporters in the world by country, and Google returns largest _wheat_ exporters:
    http://www.worldstopexports.com/wheat-exports-country/

    [
    Below are the 15 countries that exported the highest dollar value worth of wheat during 2018.
    Russia: US$8.4 billion (21.1% of total wheat exports)
    Canada: $5.7 billion (14.2%)
    United States: $5.4 billion (13.6%)
    France: $4.1 billion (10.3%)
    Australia: $3.1 billion (7.7%)
    Argentina: $2.5 billion (6.2%)
    Ukraine: $2.4 billion (5.9%)
    Romania: $1.2 billion (3.1%)
    Germany: $1.2 billion (2.9%)
    Kazakhstan: $965.4 million (2.4%)
    ]

    I assume US grain exports includes things like soy, etc.
    So it’s possible US is the largest grain exporter, but Russia is the largest wheat exporter.

    One thing of note: Russia by law has banned GMOs in agriculture, so its rapid increase of wheat exports is even more impressive.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
    , @AnonFromTN
  118. Off topic:Why the hell isn’t writer Bill Kauffman…..The Sage of Batavia NY….providing commentary on Unz Review?

  119. @Avery

    GMOs are biological poison and the NWO plans to kill us all off.

  120. @Avery

    EU also does not allow GMOs in food. So, the kudos also go to France, Romania, and Germany.

    Soybeans are a different story. The US and Brazil are the two top countries in production and export of soybeans. Export:
    1. USA (108.0 million metric tons)
    2. Brazil (86.8 million metric tons) …
    3. Argentina (53.4 million metric tons) …
    4. China (12.2 million metric tons) …
    5. India (10.5 million metric tons) …
    6. Paraguay (10.0 million metric tons) …
    7. Canada (6.0 million metric tons) …
    8. Ukraine (3.9 million metric tons) …
    It’s a bit surprising that net food importer China actually exports soybeans. It is even more surprising that India, with an enormous population, large proportion of it being malnourished, also exports soybeans.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  121. @AnonFromTN

    Kind of like the zio/US and oil, imports and exports oil, crazy zio/US policy, and we pay the price in high gasoline and diesel prices.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  122. Robjil says:
    @jean

    March 1 2018 was Purim day. That was the day that Putin mentioned the new weapons he had. He had to do it that day. Why? The US was causing trouble in Syria. He was attempting to scare the US from more actions in Syria.

    Purim theme is a strong impulse for US actions in the Middle East. Putin knows this. Even this year the US gave the Golan Heights to Israel on Purim day March 21 2019. The Jewish Calendar is a lunar calendar, so it moves around every year.

    Here are some other Purim highlights that US did in its Middle East attack wars.

    1991 War on Iraqi ended on Purim
    2003 War on Iraq started on Purim
    2011 War on Libya started on Purim

  123. Pandour says: • Website

    Russia since the Bolshevik takeover has never been anything but a cripple with a gun and a crime syndicate masquerading as a state.The worst legacy has been the virtual destruction of moral norms and ethics.To digress,I have no doubt that the vast majority of the commentators on this site are well-informed with above average intelligence but I would appeal to all to refrain from waxing wise and witty when it is not necessary.I think most people favour nuts-and-bolts to the-point comments.However brilliant one may be-or thinks he is-War and Peace -lenght efforts are an eyesore.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @FB
  124. @DESERT FOX

    Well, they rob us any way they can. After the demise of the USSR the gloves came off.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  125. @Pandour

    Please explain how that cripple beat united Europe to a pulp in 1945, then just 12 years later send the first satellite to Earth orbit, then 4 more years later send the first human into orbit? Something does not gibe.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @Pandour
  126. @AnonFromTN

    The FED is the biggest scam/ripoff in the history of America and unconstitutional to boot.

  127. peterAUS says:
    @jean

    A bit on the harsh side, but overall, a decent comment.

    Re this:

    There are no well-known leaders of the working class opposition because Putin and his FSS have either locked them up, assassinated them or they are simply ignored by the Russian mainstream media.

    would you be able to point to some sources re the “locked” and “assassinated”, please?

    And re

    Saker is a well-paid propagandist for the Russian oligarchs.

    that’s quite some statement here. Would you be able to provide any evidence to back that up, please?

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  128. peterAUS says:
    @Epigon

    [Too much totally off-topic Serb vs. Croatian bickering.]

    Hehe….don’t say.

  129. peterAUS says:
    @Epigon

    Ah, well, mods are only human too you know.

    Or…maybe, this one has his favorite in this particular bickering. Try another timeframe, maybe a more friendly to your side will man (or woman…or it…) the shift.

    Now, both you and the Croat appear to be on the own line 100 %. On top of it you both appear almost scholarly. That’s a long way from the usual Serb-Croat….ahm…”communicators” on the Internet.

    The Croat defined the primary enemy of his team clearly, and with ease.
    How about you?

  130. @War for Blair Mountain

    Saker

    I really do think you should start reading some of Bill Kauffman’s books…..

  131. peterAUS says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Interestingly enough (not really, but trying to be polite here….) my reply to you got somehow ….hehe….lost in Internet limbo, apparently.

    Without trying to figure out the mysterious works of mods here (in flesh or software….or combination) here is the gist:
    Appreciate you effort to school me in those matters but I am afraid it mostly went over my head. Somewhere in the first third of the second paragraph just got too complicated for a simple guy like me. Apologies.

    I did notice your definition of the primary enemy though. That is interesting.

    Now, let’s see will this go through….hahaha..

    All good.

  132. Seraphim says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Something that is almost always gleaned over when one pontificates about the ‘Vlachs’ is the fact that they call themselves Aromâni/Armâni (Aromanians), which is clearly derived from Romanus/Romani, the citizens of the ‘Imperium Romanum’/Basileia tōn Rhōmaiōn/Romania (as the official name of the ‘Byzantine’ Empire was). They all speak ‘limba armânească’, which is a Romance language very closely related to the Daco-Roman language spoken in present România (not to be confused with the ‘Byzantine’ Romania). The name Vlach/Voloch/Vlasi/Olah given to them in Germanic, Slavic, Greek, Hungarian languages meant originally ‘Italian’.
    They were Orthodox and therefore always closer to the ‘Balkanic’ Orthodox (Serbs, Greeks).

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  133. Seraphim says:
    @peterAUS

    The impression is rather that Saker is subtly pushing an anti-Putin propaganda.

  134. Seraphim says:
    @AnonFromTN

    The explanation is that the Russian state (and what is now called ‘deep-state’) remained in place, no matter of changes in the personnel.

  135. @AnonFromTN

    I believe that it is actually the problem that Putin had created by not decisively canceling and reversing so called privatization of 90s. I am sure he would have had massive support. Instead he went building as you say olygarhic pillar getting rid of few the most odious. But overall, I believe he has created foundation for future trouble and possible revo li Putin when he could have avoided it all. I do not believe that this thievery will be permanent as people know fully well where the rich got their wealth and with so much wealth concentrated in few hands there is mainly no way t j.g ere will be enough resources for all. It is going to get worse.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  136. @Sergey Krieger

    I suspect that Putin did not expropriate all oligarchs (who all got rich illegally even according to the loose laws of that period, by stealing state assets in the 1990s) because at the time he needed their acquiescence, possibly because “siloviki”, who likely brought him to power by forcing Yeltsin to resign, also needed their support and/or were complicit in thievery. In 2000, just like now, Putin would have gotten an overwhelming popular support for confiscating oligarchs’ loot and even hanging them all, but that wouldn’t save him from the assassin’s bullet. Oligarchs’ money could have hired lots of assassins, with billions left for their employers. So, quite possibly he did maximum that he could: brought to heel many oligarchs and got the most notorious ones out of the picture. He did not need to kill them, as there was nothing to gain: the loot was already transferred abroad, so killing any of the thieves would have just help competing Western thieves to steal their loot (which would have disappeared from “honest” banks just like Gaddafi’s billions). Besides, Brits “suicided” Berezovsky without Putin’s help, and the fate of remaining criminals, like Khodorkovsky, will be the same, likely sooner than later. Mega-thieves devoid of protection by a strong state do not remain rich long, and often do not live long. Serves them right, if you ask me.

    • Replies: @Sergey Krieger
  137. @FB

    There was plenty of awareness in the Soviet Union that Stalin was a mass murderer before World War II. That is why Ukrainian mine workers threw down their shovels and cheered when they heard Hitler had invaded. You do not seem to realize that before Khrushchev and what you call “anti-Stalin indoctrination” there was pro-Stalin indoctrination which you do not seem to have gotten out of your system. Or rather than merely brainwashed are you simply insane?

  138. @AnonFromTN

    Whatever was the reason solution he decided to take is creating long term issue. Russia now has gorillah on her back far worse than even central Asian republics of the old. Huge parasitic organism. Hence population lost all and every right enjoyed by Soviet citizens because there is no resources to keep those and parasites along with new power elites need more for themselves and of course military as they need it to be strong to protect from the partners , keep population down and play on patriotic feelings. Much of the money were transferred yes, but olygarhy that toyed the line kept assets which continued to increase their wealth. In any case, they are all thieves and must be expropriated and does not matter how long passed. This is critical issue, if it is not resolved th here is no future for Russia. Putin imho is not up to the job. He just delayed eventual outcome because processes that started after 1991 has not run their course and I see trend for Russia as still down long term. Btw, China has a history of massive collapses too.

  139. Pandour says: • Website
    @AnonFromTN

    You appear to be 18 years old or younger-for one I was alluding to the fact that the Soviet Union invariably relied on Western economic aid during its entire existance.Despite having the largest area of arable and permanent crop land in the world,the Soviet Union was unable to feed its population adequately and had to import grain from the West,for example.In contrast U.S. agriculture not only supplied the needs of its own population but supplied more food for export than any other country.You also did not adress my claim of the criminal and genocidal nature of the Soviet leadership.Your claim of the Soviet Union beating united Europe to a pulp is simplistic at best.France,the Scandinavian countries,Great Britain,Poland,etc. were also European countries-how could that elude you.The Tunisian campaign yielded 230,000 German and Italian prisoners,a larger number than the German and other Axis troops captured at Stalingrad.The Allied strategic bombing tied down thousands of anti-aircraft batteries which could have been used to devastating effect on the Eastern front,particularly the dreaded 88,as well as hundreds of thousands of troops,4.06 times as many German aircraft were lost in the West as in the East-9,768 as opposed to 2,406.Read up on U.S. lend-lease to the Soviet Union-i dont have time to do your homework for you-over 400,000 jeeps and trucks,12,000 armored vehicles including 7,000 tanks,11,400 aircraft,plus check out the British-Commonwealth effort,check out the food aid just from the U.S.-a total of 3,983 thousand tons inc. 238 million kg. of frozen beef and pork and 218 million kg of canned meat.Fears of an Allied invasion kept the entire German 20th Army,350,000 strong,tied down in Norway during the course of the war,Italy the main German ally in Europe was idustrially unfit for moder war…Icould go on ad infinitum.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @FB
  140. @Quartermaster

    Do you know when the mongols controlled Russia?
    Less than 250 years, ending nearly six centuries ago.

    It’s no flash in the pan. But it’s an exaggeration, presumably a deliberate one to paint Russians as weak or as “Asian”, for you to say that the mongols controlled the place for “a lot of Russia’s subsequent history.”

    Also, is Putin “the” problem or is the mafia the problem? Seems like you are saying contradictory things here. If “there will be no legitimate opposition while the mafia runs Russia”, then we’d have no legit opposition even if Putin were out of the picture, right? Sigh.

    Finally, can you clam with a straight face that the US Presidents have sincerely tried to represent the American people and that they have been free to act as they wished, while only in big bad Russia do shadowy powers threaten or bribe elected officials? Let’s hear it.

  141. @Pandour

    My age is immaterial, whereas the facts matter.

    Just a simple question: how many German troops were killed and wounded on the Eastern front, as compared to all other fronts (Africa, Western front, etc.) combined? Germans lost more troops storming “Pavlov’s house” in Stalingrad than they did taking Paris. Most of France was taken over by Germany and worked for it. Vichi government was an impotent puppet. Poland was occupied. Scandinavian countries did sod all. Norway and Finland were allied with Hitler, Sweden remained “neutral”, like Switzerland, meaning that Germans used it any way they wanted w/o direct occupation. The only European power fighting against Hitler was Britain.

    You can find numbers on the web comparing lend-lease deliveries to the USSR of tanks and aircraft with internal production. I am not even mentioning quality: T34 tanks were in Berlin, but nobody saw American tanks there.

    As far as food goes, grain imports in the USSR started under Brezhnev (in power from 1964 on), so that has nothing to do with WWII. Compare the numbers you cite for food deliveries via lend-lease with the USSR consumption during those years, and you get your answer regarding their relative importance.

    Not to mention that 1957 and 1961 were after Churchill’s Fulton speech, when the US and its sidekicks treated the USSR as an enemy.

    If your model were correct, how come the USSR send the first satellite and the first man into orbit before the US? Explain that. BTW, the USSR also made an H-bomb before the US. So, who had a chance to steal the technology from who?

    • Replies: @Pandour
  142. FB says: • Website
    @AnonFromTN

    The Empire only has a shell of its former power, the elites resorted to undisguised robbery, whereas when the USSR existed they [US empire] had to share with the working people to create an attractive alternative to the Soviet system.

    This is an extremely good point with which I agree completely…the USSR provided a vital counterbalance to the worst impulses of imperialist capitalism, both at home in the west, and their actions abroad…

    With that counterbalance suddenly gone in 1991 the western plutocracy simply went off the rails…just as if Newton’s Third Law of ‘action-reaction’ were suddenly annulled, the physical world would collapse in on itself…I have talked about this elsewhere in the context of wealth concentration, which shows a skyward trajectory from about 1980…from the ‘golden’ three decades following the war until today, the US has turned into a whole different country…mostly resembling a very large banana republic…

    Also agree on your point about the incredible powers of mass indoctrination we see in the west today…pretty amazing what utter stupidity people are capable of…as we see on this website…[I think back to just a couple of brainless wonders that have ‘engaged’ you, in particular, lately…LOL]

    As for the debate about Uncle Joe, I sense that you have at least moderated your position to somewhat approaching a reasonable consensus, and have provided some much needed granularity to your position, so I leave it at that…

    As to the decline in education capability in Russia, compared to Soviet times…this I also agree with, although it was starting at such a high level that the drop is not yet catastrophic…but I agree that the generation of Russian specialists that I know and value, will not be succeeded by men [and women] of comparable caliber…that is truly tragic and is a consequence of the capitalist and oligarchic currents in today’s Russia…this is a tragedy…socialist China is on a very big upward trajectory in technical education, while the US is predictably racing to the bottom…

    I’m actually glad you mentioned this issue because this is yet one more big beef I have with Putin…

    • Agree: Sergey Krieger
    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  143. FB says: • Website
    @Pandour

    I would appeal to all to refrain from waxing wise and witty when it is not necessary.I think most people favour nuts-and-bolts to the-point comments.However brilliant one may be-or thinks he is-War and Peace -lenght efforts are an eyesore.

    Shut up asshat…you just pop up on this website out of nowhere and right away you’re issuing some kind of asshat ‘directives’…

    Btw your subsequent comments reveal you are either profoundly retarded or a typical prison troll…ie incarcerated persons employed by troll farms…

  144. FB says: • Website
    @Pandour

    Read up on U.S. lend-lease to the Soviet Union-i dont have time to do your homework for you…

    You should take your own advice asshat…

    Britain got THREE times as much as the USSR…and what did Britain do…other than praying earnestly to St George that the Red Army would save them…

    Also note the timeline of lend lease deliveries…Russia got peanuts before 1943 by which time they had already crushed the Wermacht…

    Only uneducated riff raff like yourself regurgitate this lend lease bullshit…80 percent of Germany’s military was destroyed on the Eastern Front…by the time of Normandy in 1944 the war was long a foregone conclusion…in fact right after Stalingrad…read the British press of the time…

    The news of the battle echoed round the world, with many people now believing that Hitler’s defeat was inevitable.[122] The Turkish Consul in Moscow predicted that “the lands which the Germans have destined for their living space will become their dying space”.[123] Britain’s conservative The Daily Telegraph proclaimed that the victory had saved European civilisation.

    As for Allied bombing…again you show how completely unread you are on military history…the bombings accomplished the square root of fuck all…Germany’s war production kept increasing year on year throughout the war…military historians have 100 percent consensus on the ineffectiveness of the allied bombing…

    4.06 times as many German aircraft were lost in the West as in the East-9,768 as opposed to 2,406

    What an illiterate moron…

    Germany produced 119,907 aircraft of all types, including bomber, transport, reconnaissance, gliders, training, seaplanes and flying boats. Most of them were either destroyed, damaged, captured or sold.[2] Estimated total number of destroyed and damaged for the war totaled 76,875 aircraft

    That’s just a tiny bit more than your mickey mouse numbers of about 12,000…you only missed it by a factor of six…

    Most of those German aircraft were lost on the Eastern Front…German historian Hans Seidl estimates between 50 and 60 thousand…

    Stalin’s Eagles: An Illustrated Study of the Soviet Aces of World War II and Korea

    Soviet Union produced the highest scoring allied aces during the Second World War.

    Source, Wikipedia…

    Nine of the top ten allied aces were with the VVS [Voyenno-Vozdushnye Sily, Soviet Air Force]…the other one was a Belgian…

    Top 10 Allied Aces of WWII

    I’ve rarely seen such a clueless dork on this website…

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  145. @FB

    You can rant & rave ad infinitum, but the most reasonable conclusion is: the US would have won the war any way.

    Even if Hitler had conquered Soviet Union, Americans would have nuked Germans into submission. They would have done it to Japan even without the nukes, anyway.

    They were, simply, the only unbeatable super-power, with or without UK. When I think of it- they could have smashed any country or combination of countries in the world.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_production_during_World_War_II#Production_overview:_service,_power_and_type

    • Replies: @FB
    , @AnonFromTN
  146. I really hope Vladimir Putin isn’t enamoured of the Laffer Curve….or as the late Martin Gardener lampooned it in the pages of Scientific American:THE LAUGHING CURVE……

  147. FB says: • Website
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Even if Hitler had conquered Soviet Union, Americans would have nuked Germans into submission.

    Righto asshat…and if my aunt would have been born with balls, I’d be calling her ‘uncle’…what are you about 11…?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  148. @Bardon Kaldian

    I am not surprised: over the millennia people believed all sorts of ridiculous things. Yours are just a few more.

  149. Pandour says: • Website
    @AnonFromTN

    I have neither the time nor the will to play games of one-upmanship with you.More than 2.8 million German soldiers surrendered on the Western Front between D-Day and the end of April 1945 not including German losses in Italy which totalled 330.000 killed wounded or captured.You dont have to be Napoleon to figure out what difference they would have made if they were deployed against the Soviets-you ignored my main point-Marxism is the most murderous and destructive ideology in the history of mankind.To say that youre totally historically and politically illiterate would be a compliment.Your zinger that Norway was allied to Hitler says it all.A real topper is also your claim that nobody saw American tanks in Soviet service.For one,just type in the M4 Sherman Tank in Soviet Service.The Soviet Union imploded because it was rotten to the core.It would literally take hundreds of pages to debunk all the utter nonsense youre spouting.I cant believe you actually exist-surely you must be joking.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @FB
  150. @FB

    I have a lot of beef with Putin, including what they did with the education system (it was really good and now it is gradually being degraded to the US level) and with biomedical science (it was weak in the USSR times, but now it’s even weaker), etc. But I try to be realistic. Nobody is perfect, and in policy you have to go mostly by what’s possible (which rarely exceeds 10% of what’s desirable). So, like uncle Joe, he has a checkered record, but in my view the sum total in both cases is positive. I was in Russia (Moscow and two provincial cities; what’s more, I drove rental car between these two) last year and I was really impressed. Neither Moscow, nor provincial cities, nor roads were anywhere near this good in Soviet times. So, it appears that new parasites (oligarchs) are less destructive than the old parasites (“brotherly” republics and countries).

  151. @FB

    I feel your pain, but, sorry, I can’t do anything about it….

  152. @Pandour

    My answer #151 applies to you 100%.
    Not to mention that the result of the war became crystal clear after Stalingrad (February 1943), whereas D-day happened a lot later, in June of 1944, less than a year before Soviets took Berlin.

    • Replies: @Avery
  153. @Seraphim

    Yes, but they seem to have stemmed from a paleo-Balkanic ethnic substrate which had became somehow Romanized & has subsequently contributed to the ethnogenesis of many peoples: mostly, but not exclusively Orthodox (late Croatian-Albanian historian Zef Mirdita was an expert of that matter:

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  154. @AnonFromTN

    But at the time housing, education, healthcare were free plus lots of other rights that people had. Also, Soviet union is gone lo g time ago. Is there any doubt th at by now cities even provincial would look a lot better. I am pretty sure if to make thorough estimates and calculate pros and cons old brotherly republics will fade onto insignificance compared to new parasitic class. Look, they already went for pensions. They basically annihilated every single right Soviet people had and which definitelly cost a lot. Another thing, which is confidence in the future is completely gone and education degeneration will cost Russia a lot. If this trend continues. All of capitalistic countries eventually move along same trajectory of dumbing population down and destroying education because it is easy to control badly educated public.

    • Agree: FB
  155. @AnonFromTN

    I also think you ate being to harsh on stalin. Times and human material required what stalin was doing and also people were doing. It was not just stalin. Also, I would not put Putin in the same sentence with people of Lenin and stalin scale. He is adequate leader but those two were titans. Basically Putin life is a lot easier due to what he received from Soviet era which was mainly built by those two. Stalin on the other hand started with nothing. The moral side is also important. Putin letting thieves to keep the loot is his undoing. He wou look d have become the great of Russian and world history, but will be just adequate who did not go far enough. The worst he, the man coming from modest situation, completely broke with the people by supporting thieves who caused untold suffering and death of the former Soviet people.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
    , @anonandanon
  156. Avery says:
    @AnonFromTN

    {D-day happened a lot later, in June of 1944,}

    When US, UK, Canada et. al. landed in June 1944, the Eastern front was at the doorstep of Warsaw.

  157. @Sergey Krieger

    Lenin and Stalin and the bolsheviks were among the greatest mass murderers in history and destroyed Russia for decades!

    Putin has restored Russia and is the only sane leader on the world stage!

    • Replies: @Sergey Krieger
  158. FB says: • Website
    @Pandour

    More than 2.8 million German soldiers surrendered on the Western Front between D-Day and the end of April 1945

    Hey ‘Pederastdour’…

    Those German prisoners were literally running into the arms of the US, so they would not be captured by the Russians…the over three million Germans captured by the Red Army were done the hard way…

    The Ninth Army, encircled in a large pocket in the Spree Forest region south-east of Berlin, attempted to break out westwards through the village of Halbe and the pine forests south of Berlin to link up with the German Twelfth Army commanded by General Walther Wenck with the intention of heading west and surrendering to the Western Allies.

    —Battle of Halbe

    …the 12th Army was stopped by numerically superior Soviet Red Army forces and forced to abandon the effort to relieve Berlin.

    The 12th Army then linked up with the remnants of General Theodor Busse’s decimated 9th Army south of Beelitz and, in the confusion of the Soviet breakthrough, provided a corridor to the west for soldiers and refugees alike to reach and cross the partially destroyed Elbe River bridge at Tangermünde and surrender to American forces between May 4 and May 7, 1945.

    —12’th Army

    So that’s your idea of military glory…to get sloppy seconds after the real man has already done his business…?

    Every historian recognizes the Soviets beat the Nazis practically single handedly…the mickey mouse Normandy invasion was peanuts…

    The battles on the Eastern Front of the Second World War constituted the largest military confrontation in history…

    The Eastern Front was decisive in determining the outcome in the European theatre of operations in World War II, eventually serving as the main reason for the defeat of Nazi Germany and the Axis nations.[7][8][9]

    —Eastern Front

    What an industrial-strength loser…

  159. Seraphim says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    This is an oblique way to admit that they were THE largest ‘paleo-Balkanic ‘ ethnic substrate, i.e. the autochtones speaking ‘italide’ dialects (close to the dialects of Italy and adjacent Mediterranean shores) before the ‘romanization’.
    Croats were not.

  160. Erebus says:
    @JOHN CHUCKMAN

    Any poll which shows Shoigu getting only 14.8%, Lavrov getting 13%, is highly suspect on its face.

    Actually, the Свободная Пресса (Svobodnaya Pressa) article Saker bases his numbers on seems to have misunderstood/misused the VCIOM (Russian Public Opinion Research Centre) original. VCIOM is capable and reliable by all accounts, but Saker seems to have neglected to dig beyond the popular article and look at what VCIOM’s numbers actually mean.

    When one looks at VCIOM’s original report, it all makes sense.

    Putin’s, Lavrov’s, Shoigu’s, et al’s numbers look like that in the open ended part of the poll. “Open ended” means that the number of possible answers is “open”, and almost any number of answers are possible. The answers are emphatically not an approval, or trust rating. Here is where Saker’s cited article seems to have got its numbers (Google translation):

    MOSCOW, May 31, 2019. The All-Russian Center for the Study of Public Opinion (VTsIOM) presents confidence ratings for politicians, evaluations of the activities of state institutions, and attitudes towards parties.

    For January-May of this year. The level of approval of Vladimir Putin’s work as president increased from 61.7% to 64.5%, while approval of Dmitry Medvedev’s work as head of government increased from 34.3% to 37.4%.

    72.3% of respondents positively answered the direct question about trust in Vladimir Putin (23.7% do not trust), 37% – about Dmitry Medvedev, 36.1% – Vladimir Zhirinovsky, 32.6% – Gennady Zyuganov, 26 , 7% of respondents (closed question).

    All political indicators are within the framework of an established corridor of values. The indicator of approval of the President’s activity on average from 20 to 26 May was 64.5%. Estimates of the work of the Prime Minister and the Government of Russia over the last week have adjusted to 37.4% and 42.7%, respectively.

    In the rating of trust to Russian politicians as a whole (open question), Vladimir Putin’s indicator for answering an open question was 30.5%. According to surveys from May 20 to May 26, Sergey Shoigu (15.1%) and Sergey Lavrov (12%) occupy the second and third positions in the list.

    The United Russia party’s rating of the average for the last week was 34.5% (since the beginning of the year the indicator has ranged from 32.3-37.1%), the Communist Party of the Russian Federation – 15.1%, LDPR – 12.1%, “Fair Russia” – 5.6%.

    https://wciom.ru/index.php?id=236&uid=9728

    Note the penultimate paragraph. I’m guessing that the open question asked something along the lines of “Which Russian politician do you trust the most?”. On that basis, the numbers are entirely consistent with what one would expect.

    To the extent that Saker’s thesis is based on a misunderstanding of what the polls numbers mean, the rest of the article is at best an opinion piece.

    • Replies: @FB
  161. @Sergey Krieger

    As you say the times and conditions required Stalin to do what he did. Without the murder of twenty or thirty million worthless Christian peasants the Nomenklatura would not have been safe or happy. Since you survived I assume the murders were carried out in your interest and you are happy with that. Similarly, the present times and situation require the speedy elimination of at least seven billion people on this planet for the rest to be safe from the problems of over population and over exploitation. A man has to to do what a man has to do. I doubt that you are essential and since you understand why these things have to be done you should volunteer yourself out of the goodness of your heart for voluntary extermination.

    • Replies: @Sergey Krieger
  162. @anonandanon

    Where did you get those numbers? Solzhenizin probably? Under stalin population was continuously growing which would gave been impossible with losses in peace time you mentioned. Bolsheviks under Lenin and stalin finally resolved all problems which were afflicting Russian empire and did it with minimally possible losses. Without what they did Russia would have been German playground with little original population left. You paste your ideas about what current elites supposedly are doing on stalin. It is typical now judging great people of previous era by modern green liberal and whatever standards.

    • Agree: FB
  163. @DESERT FOX

    It smells like Tide was used to wash your brain.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
    , @DESERT FOX
  164. @Sergey Krieger

    Read The Gulag Archipelago and The Harvest of Sorrow , that you would worship mass murderers says it all about you!

    • Replies: @Sergey Krieger
  165. @Sergey Krieger

    That you would worship mass murderers , says it all about you!

  166. @DESERT FOX

    If you read any Russian speaking blog you will get proper idea as to what Russians think of Solzhenitsyn. The way he is being promoted by Putin and his gang shows exactly who they are along with closure of Mausoleum on Victory day and other holidays and not mentioning Stalin as Soviet top war commander.
    Considering you believe what that liar wrote you are typical brainwashed westerner.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  167. FB says: • Website
    @Erebus

    Thanks for this very good clarification…I’m surprised Medvedev has rising numbers…mostly I think reflected light from Putin…

  168. @Sergey Krieger

    Spoken like a true bolshevik killer!

  169. @peterAUS

    ” And, just don’t see it as “radicalism”. It’s just what they are, what they do, when they feel they have power. More power, more “radicalism”. Or more of of the true nature of that thing.”

    A very shrewd and realistic comment.

    While the idea of an Orthodox Christian alliance with Islam does have some worth in a realpolitik sense, the utmost authority on such an idea are not the Russians but the Christians of the Middle East specifically those of Egypt and the Levant. The Russians have lived with an Islamic minority whereas the Middle East Christians have coexisted with the Moslems as a Christian minority. They have a long history of survival among Muslims that at best exhibited a tenuous peace while at times it morphed into a bloody persecution irrespective of Wahhabi ideology that is barely two hundred years old.

    Though one thing I believe to be true: as bad as Islamic extremism is, which in itself is a creation of the Anglo Zionist Empire, it cannot exceed the wickedness of its creator.

    To truly analyse the possibility of a wider Christian Moslem alliance as already suggested years back by the Israeli Russian Jewish apostate Israel Shamir, we need to add to the religious equation the ethnic one. Hence by studying the history of Islam, we would notice that the most brutal acts of bloody subjugation came from Moslems whose heritage is associated with nomadic and tribal societies like the Ottoman Turks or the Desert Arabs of the Arabic peninsula which is a pattern we have seen with non Moslem nomads like the Mangols. On the other hand, the Moslems of the Levant including the Iranians, and those of the balkans, were far more amenable to peaceful coexistence with their Christian fellow citizens. Thus I can conclude that a Moslem Christian alliance will always be a double edged sword depending on the ethnicity of the Moslem.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  170. peterAUS says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Agree, except:

    …those of the balkans…

    Definitely disagree with that.

    Yes, Turks were on the top. “Local” muslims were, quite willing, helping hand.
    No need to believe me here. Go and ask both Catholics and Orthodox there living, for centuries, close or under Ottoman rule, what they feel about it.
    Let’s not even talk about the current version of “muslimestans” in Bosnia and Kosovo.

    True, Croats will always seek an alliance with Muslims against their eternal enemy, Serbs. The thing is, as soon as they “solve” the Serb question they’ll go for Muslims.
    As for Serbs, Macedonians and Montenegrins, alliance with Muslims……that’s just funny.

    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  171. @peterAUS

    I concede that I might have erred with respect to Balkan Muslims. My assumption was that most Muslims offences against Christians were instigated by the Ottomans as you justly state.
    However, looking at the Kosovar’s treatment of the Serbian minority after the ethnic Albanians prevailing in the war courtesy of Western intervention gives credence to your opinion about Balkan Muslims.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  172. peterAUS says:
    @Joe Levantine

    However, looking at the Kosovar’s treatment of the Serbian minority after the ethnic Albanians prevailing in the war courtesy of Western intervention gives credence to your opinion about Balkan Muslims.

    Yep…..

    For those say….3 % tops, of people reading this, taking a look at how Bosnian Muslims treated both Orthodox and Catholic (Serbs and Croats for simplicity) in areas where they had upper hand would be informative.

    And, those really wishing to go deeper into the rabbit hole (1 % I guess), well, from the horse’s mouth:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Declaration
    Wiki version. Like…ginger beer compared to Jack Daniels.

    The funny thing is not that a lot of Westerners can buy the idea of Islam as shown down their throats on daily basis.
    The funny thing is that Saker (and his ilk), apparently well versed in Serb history, can come up with such …..mental excrement.

    Ah, well, whatever works for Kremlin at the moment, I guess.

  173. ussr andy says:
    @Felix Keverich

    but you do not question their station and their right to rule over you

    how does that jibe with all the legal nihilism?

    look up that news story about that bank teller who absconded abroad, then read the comments (tl;dr: good for you, gurrrl! if _they_ may, why can’t us small people, for a change!)

    clearly, unquestioning belief in authority is Russians’ least problem.

    • Replies: @Felix Keverich
  174. @ussr andy

    how does that jibe with all the legal nihilism?

    These are very immature people with no sense of personal responsibility. A child will break the rules, when Dad isn’t looking. But Dad is Dad.

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