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I have recently had the pleasure of watching a short presentation by Professor Stephen F. Cohen entitled “Rethinking Putin” which he delivered on the annual Nation cruise on December 2, 2017 (see here for the original Nation Article and original YouTube video). In his short presentation, Professor Cohen does a superb job explaining what Putin is *not* and that includes: (but, please do watch the original video before proceeding).

  1. He is not the man who de-democratized Russia (Elstin and the White House did)
  2. He is not the leader who created corruption and kleptocracy in Russia (Elstin and the White House did)
  3. He is not a criminal leader who ordered the murder of opponents or journalists (no evidence)
  4. He did not order the hacking of the DNC servers (no evidence)
  5. He was not anti-US or anti-West from the get-go (Putin changed over time)
  6. He is not a neo-Soviet leader (he is very critical of Lenin and Stalin)
  7. He is not an aggressive foreign policy leader (he has been a reactive leader)
  8. He is not somehow defined by his years at the KGB.

Professor Cohen ended his talk by suggesting a few things which might form a part of a future honest biography:

  1. As a young and inexperienced leader placed at the helm of a collapsing state:
  2. He rebuilt, stabilized and modernized Russia in a way to prevent future collapses
  3. He had to restore the “vertical” of power: “managed democracy” (i.e. restored order)
  4. He needed a consensual history patching up Czarist, Soviet and post-Soviet eras without imposing one, single, version of history
  5. He needed Western support to modernize the Russian economy
  6. He wanted Russia to be a great power, but not a super-power
  7. He never favored iron-curtain isolationism; he is an internationalist (more European than 90% of Russians, at least in the beginning).

The key thesis is this: Putin began as a pro-Western, European leader and with time he realigned himself with a much more traditional, Russian worldview. He is more in line with Russian voters today.

Professor Cohen concluded by addressing two topics which, I presume, his audience cared deeply about: he said that, contrary to Western propaganda, the so-called ‘anti-gay’ laws in Russia are no different from the laws of 13 US states. Secondly, that “by any reckoning, be it flourishing inside Russia or relations with Israel, by general consent of all, nobody denies this, Jews under Putin in Russia are better off than they had ever been in Russian history. Ever. They have more freedom, less official anti-Semitism, more protection, more official admiration for Israel, more interaction, more freedom to go back and forth”.

This is all very interesting important stuff, especially when delivered to a Left-Liberal-Progressive US audience (with, probably, a high percentage of Jews). Frankly, Professor Cohen’s presentation makes me think about what Galileo might have felt when he made his own “presentations” before the tribunal of Inquisition (Cohen’s articles and books are now also on the modern equivalent of the Index Librorum Prohibitorum). In truth, Professor Cohen is simply true to himself: he opposed the crazies during the old Cold War and now he is opposing the same crazies during the new Cold War. His entire life Professor Cohen was a man of truth, courage, and integrity – a peacemaker in the sense of the Beatitudes (Matt 5:9). So while I am not surprised by his courage, I am still immensely impressed by it. Some might think that delivering a short presentation on a cruise-ship is hardly a sign of great courage, but I would vehemently disagree. Yes, nobody would shoot Cohen in the back of the neck like, say, the Soviet ChK-GPU-NKVD would have done, but I submit that these methods of “enforcing” a single official consensus were far less effective than their modern equivalents: the conformity imposition techniques (see: Asch Conformity Experiment) so prevalent in the modern Western society. Just look at the results: there was far more reading and thinking (of any kind) going on in the Soviet society than there is today in the modern AngloZionist Empire (anybody who remembers the bad old USSR will confirm that to you). As one joke puts it: in a dictatorship, you are told to “shut up”, while in a democracy you are encouraged to “keep talking”. QED.

Turning to Professor Cohen’s talking points, numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4 are basic facts. Nothing to be debated here – Cohen is plainly setting the factual record straight. Number 5 is much more interesting and controversial. For one thing, we are talking views/intentions, which are hard to judge. Was Putin ever pro-Western? Who knows? Maybe his closest friends know? My own belief is that this question must be looked at in combination of issue #8: Putin’s service in the KGB.

There is still a huge amount of misinformation about the old Soviet KGB in the West. To the average American a “KGB agent” is a guy called Vladimir, with steel gray-blue eyes, who beats up dissidents, steals Western technological secrets, and spies on the wives of politicians (and even beds them). He is a hardcore Communist who dreams about nuking or invading the US and he speaks with a thick Russian accent. Alternatively, there is Anna Kushchenko (a.k.a. Anna Chapman) – a devious sex doll who seduces Western men into treason. These prototypes are as accurate as James Bond is an accurate representation of MI6. The reality could not be more different.

The Soviet KGB was first and foremost a huge bureaucracy with completely different, and separate, directorates, departments, and sections. Yes, one such Directorate did deal with dissidents and anti-Soviet activists (mainly the 9th Department of the 5th Directorate) but even within this (infamous) 5th Directorate there were some Departments which, in coordination with other KGB Directorates and Departments, dealt with more legitimate tasks such as, for example, the early detection of terrorist organizations (7th Department). Other Directorates of the KGB dealt with economic security (6th Directorate), internal security and counter-intelligence (2nd Directorate) or even protection of officials (9th Directorate).

Putin was an officer (not an “agent” – agents are recruited from outside the KGB!) of the First Main Directorate (PGU) of the KGB: foreign intelligence. Putin himself has recently revealed that he was working inside the most sensitive Department of the PGU, the “Department S” which are “illegals”. This is very important. The PGU was so separate from all the other Directorates of the KGB that it had its own headquarters in the south of Moscow. But even inside the PGU, the Department S was the most secret and separated from all the other PGU Departments (no less than 10). As somebody who has spent many years as an anti-Soviet activist and who has had personal, face to face, dealings with KGB officers (of various Directorates) I can confirm that not only did the KGB as a whole get some of the best and brightest in Russia, but the PGU got the best ones of those and only the very best ones from that select group ever made it to the legendary Department S. Now let’s look at what kind of skill-set was required from PGU officers in general (besides the obvious two: being very bright and very trustworthy).

ORDER IT NOW

First and foremost, a PGU officer has to be a top-notch specialist of his area of expertise (in Putin’s case: Germany, of course, but also the rest of Europe and, since Western Europe was – and still is – a US colony, the US). While Soviet people were told that the West was the enemy, the PGU officers had to understand why and how the West was that enemy.

In practical terms, this implies not only knowing and understanding the official cultural, political, social and economic realities of the enemy’s polity, but also the real power relations inside that polity. Such an understanding is not only useful to approach and evaluate the potential usefulness of each person you interact with, but also to be able to understand in what environment this person has to operate. The notion of PGU officers being bigoted commies is laughable as these men, and women, were very well read (they had unlimited access to all the Western information sources, including anti-Soviet ones, classified reports, and all the anti-Soviet literature imaginable) and they were ultimate realists/pragmatists. Of course, like in any organization, the top leaders were often political appointees and the bureaucrats and counter-intelligence officers were much less sophisticated. But for officers like Putin to really understand the reality of the Western society was a vital skill.

Second, a good PGU officer had to be likable; very, very likable. Being liked by others is also a crucial skill for a good intelligence officer. In practical terms, this means that he/she has to not only understand what makes the other guy tick but how to influence him/her in the right direction. When dealing with ‘illegals’ that also meant being their best friend, confessor, moral support, guide and protector. You can’t do that if people don’t like you. So these intelligence officers are masters of being good friends and companions; they are good listeners and they know a lot about how to make you like them. They also understand exactly what you like to hear, what you want to see and what words and actions place you in a relaxed and trusting mode.

Now combine these two: you have a man who is top notch specialist of the West and who is superbly trained to be liked by Western people. How likely is it that this man had many illusions about the West, to begin with? And what if a man like that did have misgivings – would he have shown them?

My own gut feeling is that this is not very likely at all.

What is far more likely is this: Putin played the “West best’s friend” role for as long as possible and he dumped it when it was clearly not productive any longer. And yes, in doing that he did realign himself to the mainstream Russian public opinion. But that was just a useful side-effect, not the cause or the goal of that realignment.

Look at the Professor Cohen’s points 9-13 above (I would summarize them as “fix Russia”). They all make sense to me, even that “he was a young and inexperienced leader”. There is a huge difference between being a skilled PGU officer and being the man who rules over Russia. And even if Putin did lose some of his illusions, it would have been primarily because the West itself changed a great deal between the 1980s and the 2010s. But Putin must have indeed always known that to implement Cohen’s points 10-13 he needed the West’s help, or, if that was not possible, at least the West’s minimal interference/resistance. But to believe that a man who had full access to the real information about the two Chechen wars would have any kind of illusions left about the West’s real feelings about Russia is profoundly misguided. In fact, anybody living in Russia in the 1990s would have eventually come to the realization that the West wanted all Russians to be slaves, or, more accurately, and in the words of Senator McCain – “gas station” attendants. Putin himself said so when he declared, speaking about the US, “they don’t want to humiliate us, they want to subjugate us. They want to solve their problems at our expense, they want to subordinate us to their influence“. Putin then added, “nobody in history has ever succeeded in doing this and nobody will ever succeed“. First, I submit that Putin is absolutely correct in his understanding of the West’s goals. Second, I also submit that he did not suddenly “discover” this in 2014. I think that he knew it all along, but began openly saying so after the US-backed coup in the Ukraine. Furthermore, by 2014, Putin had already accomplished points 9-13 and he did not need the West as much anymore.

Now let’s look at points 6 (Putin’s view of the Soviet period), 12 (consensual history) and 14 (Russia as a great power but not a super-power). And again, let’s consider the fact that officers of the PGU had total access to any history books, secret archives, memoirs, etc. and that they were very free to speak in pragmatic analytical terms on all historical subjects with their teachers and colleagues. Here I submit that Putin had no more illusions about the Soviet past then he had about the West. The fact that he referred to the breakup of the Soviet Union (which, let’s remember, happened in a totally undemocratic way!) as a “catastrophe” which was “completely unnecessary” does in no way imply that he was not acutely aware of all the horrors, tragedies, waste, corruption, degradation and general evil of the Soviet regime. All this shows is that he is also aware of the immense victories, achievements, and successes which also are part of the historical record of the Soviet era. Finally, and most importantly, it shows that he realizes what absolute disaster, a cataclysm of truly cosmic proportions the break-up of the Soviet Union represented for all the people of the former USSR and what an absolute nightmare it was for Russia to live a full decade as a subservient colony of Uncle Sam. I am certain that Putin studied enough Hegel to understand that the horrors of the 1990s were the result of the internal contradictions of the Soviet era just as the Soviet era was the result of the internal contradictions of Czarist Russia. In plain English, this means that he fully understood the inherent dangers of empire and that he decided, along with the vast majority of Russians, that Russia ought to never become an empire again. A strong, respected and sovereign country? Yes. But an empire? Never again. No way!

This fundamental conclusion is also the key to Putin’s foreign policy: it is “reactive” by nature simply because it only acts in response to when (and what) something affects Russia. You could say that all “normal” nations are “reactive” because they have no business doing otherwise. Getting involved everywhere, in every fight or conflict, is what empires based on messianic ideologies do, not normal countries regardless of how big or powerful they are. For all the sick and paranoid hallucinations of Western Russophobes about a “resurgent Russia” the reality is that Russian diplomats have often mentioned what the goals of Russian foreign policies truly are: to turn enemies into neutrals, neutrals into partners, partners into friends and friends into allies. And this is why Professor Cohen is absolutely correct, Putin is no isolationist at all – he wants a new, multi-polar, international order of sovereign countries; not because he is a naïve wide-eyed idealist, but because this is what is pragmatically good for Russia and her people. You could say that Putin is a patriotic internationalist.

And now to the homosexuals and Jews. First, both assertions made by Professor Cohen are correct: homosexuals and Jews are doing great in modern Russia. I would even agree that they are doing better than ever before. Of course, both Professor Cohen and I are being factual and very superficial when we say that. And since I discussed both of these topics in some detail in the past (see here and here) I won’t discuss them here. Rather, I would simply state that in both cases we are talking about a rather small minority of whose treatment is, for some reason or other, considered as THE measure of humanity, kindness, civilization, and modernity in the West. Well, okay, to each his own. If in the West, the treatment of these two minorities is The One And Only Most Important Topic In The Universe – fine. I personally don’t care much (especially since I don’t feel that I owe any special consideration to either one of them). This being said, I would also claim that Putin’s number one concern is also not for any specific minority. However, and that is where this is indeed very interesting, his concern for the majority does not at all imply any kind of disregard or disrespect for the fundamental freedoms and rights of the minorities but includes his concern for all minorities (and, in this case, not just two minorities which are treated as “more equal than others”).

This is where various right-wingers and assorted Alt-Righters completely “lose” Putin. The very same Putin who told an assembly of Orthodox Jews in Moscow that 80-85% of Bolshevik leaders were Jews (see subtitled video here), the same Putin who crushed the (overwhelmingly Jewish) oligarchs of the Eltsin era as soon as he came to power, and the same Putin who completely ignored all the hysterics of Bibi Netanyahu about the Russian role in Syria is also the same Putin who went out of his way to protect Russian Jews inside Russia and who considers that Jews and Russians are forever joined in their common memory of the horrors of WWII.

[Sidebar: I personally wish that Russia would denounce Israel for what it is, an illegitimate racist rogue state hell-bent on genocide and expansion, but I don't have relatives there. Neither am I the President of a country with very strong ties to the Russian-speaking Jewish communities worldwide. In my opinion, I am accountable to nobody else but my conscience and God, whereas Putin is accountable to those who elected him and still support him].

Guilt by association, the punishment of all for the actions of some, scapegoating, the vicious persecution of minorities in the name of some ideal – this has all been tried in the past, both in Russia and in the West. The Nazis did that and so did the Soviets. And both the Nazis and the Soviets inflicted untold horrors upon the many peoples of the Soviet Union and beyond. Putin is acutely aware of the dangers of nationalism, just as much as he is aware of the dangers of imperialism, and he said so many times: Russia cannot afford any more nationalistic conflicts as they almost completely destroyed Russia in the 1990s. Just look at modern Ukraine and you will see what a Russia torn apart by nationalist ideologies could have looked like had Putin not cracked down, hard, on various nationalists (including and mostly Russian ones).

Far from catering to (an admittedly powerful) Jewish lobby in Russia, Putin is, in fact, trying to assemble as many different peoples and minorities as possible to his project of a New Russia; and that project includes Russian Jews, not only for the sake of these Jews, but mainly for the sake of Russia. The same goes for another crucial minority in Russia – Muslims. They also very much form a key part of the project Putin has for Russia. Of course, racists, nationalists and other less than bright folks in Russia will still dream about expelling all Jews (or Muslims) from Russia. Simply put – that ain’t happening (for one thing this would be physically impossible) and Putin and those who support him will fight such projects with every legal tool at their disposal. Here again, you could say that Putin is a patriotic internationalist.

ORDER IT NOW

In the meanwhile, the West is still stuck in its old, ideological ways: imperialism, nationalism and messianic exclusivism on one hand, and a complete surrender to post-modernism, cultural self-hatred, petty minority politics and moral relativism on the other. It is, therefore, no surprise whatsoever that both mainstream camps in the West completely misread Putin and can’t figure out what he is up to.

Professor Cohen is right: the real Putin has absolutely nothing, nothing at all, in common with the pseudo-Putin the Western media presents to its infinitely gullible and zombified audience. Alas, nobody will listen to Cohen, at least not until the regime in Washington DC and the power structure which supports it, and whose interests it represents, come crashing down. But I do believe that Professor Cohen will eventually go down in history as the most intellectually honest and courageous Russia expert in the US.

 
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  1. I respect this commentator and respect Mr. Cohen and detest the power structure they are resisting. This seems to be a realistic appraisal of Putin’s role.

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  2. peterAUS says:

    Of course, racists, nationalists and other less than bright folks in Russia will still dream about expelling….

    Nationalists are less than bright folks?

    Or just nationalists in Russia? Russian nationalists that is. Only them.

    Interesting.

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    • Replies: @Thorfinnsson
    The Faker, who lives in Florida and has only visited Russia once (Chechnya for some baffling reason), is well known as a massive cuck.

    This is why he's always rambling about "shaitans" and talking about how lovely Mohammedans and Chechens are.

    Actual Russians hate Chechens and other vermin from the North Caucasus, and the most common slogan of Russian nationalists on this topic is, "Stop feeding the Caucasus!"
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  3. Cyrano says:

    Guilt by association, the punishment of all for the actions of some, scapegoating, the vicious persecution of minorities in the name of some ideal – this has all been tried in the past, both in Russia and in the West. The Nazis did that and so did the Soviets.

    Saker, I know you want to sound egalitarian and fair, but comparing Nazi’s and Soviet treatment of minorities – come on man.

    Nazi’s mistreated minorities because of the fact that they were of different ethnicity, and that treatment was reserved for them only, and not for the Germans.

    In the Soviet Union, the mistreatment of minorities had more equal opportunity flavor – they didn’t want to make the minorities feel left out of the mistreatment that the ethnic Russians were receiving themselves.

    In other words, the USSR didn’t want to discriminate against the minorities by treating them differently than the ethnic Russians.

    Imagine how it would have felt from the minorities perspective if the USSR authorities refrained from sending them to the Gulag. They would have felt unloved and unworthy of receiving the same treatment as the Russians. Like they are not good enough to be sent to the Gulag.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    The better-at-military matters-than historical-facts Saker said:
    "And both the Nazis and the Soviets inflicted untold horrors upon the many peoples of the Soviet Union and beyond."

    Except the 'Nazis' did not do what is alleged and there is no proof that they did. Simple as that.

    College freshman-like Cyrano said:
    "Nazi’s mistreated minorities because of the fact that they were of different ethnicity, and that treatment was reserved for them only, and not for the Germans."

    Except that the Nazis did no such thing. That unsupportable claim merely an indication of his Zionist indoctrination which is easily debunked.
    ex:
    The Myth of a Nazi Extermination of Homosexuals by Jack Wikoff http://www.cwporter.com/homo.htm
    Gypsies and Homosexuals in the Camps http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1894
    homosexuals - Yad Vashem ...http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1930

    The 'minorities, homosexuals & gypsies' canard is merely an attempt by Jews to buy votes for their laughable and impossible '6M & gas chambers'.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

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  4. yurivku says:

    Thank you Saker. It was an interesting reading.

    Both of you – The Saker and prof. Cohen probably are right in yours conclusions about Putin and its role in world and Russia’s history. But:
    - he was appointed by Putin, as I.Shamir ( http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-rich-also-cry/ ) said to guard Old Money;
    - he did alot for our country and really saved it from final crushing, but he could have done much more and he had not.

    I mean corruption questions when he behaves very selectively (keeping some corruptioners while fight with others, this looks like undercover fight), economy (thanks US imbeciles with sanctions which forced him to support internal productions and agriculture), he did almost nothing to get those oligarchs’s money work for country, he does invest to different unneeded projects (like football champ etc) not trying to help poorest part of our society, he still does nothing (even supports) 5th column (Chubais, Kudrin, Shuvalov, Gref …), building stupid Eltsin center ….

    So I, as well as many Russian, have a very contraditory feelings to him. After Crimea joined Russia we all gave him a big credit. Most than 90% of Russians happy of this, when root and lovely part of Russia returned home not to say about strategic meaning of that.
    But now credit is over and if we could see someone good enough to be compared with Putin – quite a significant part of a society is ready to vote for for such person.
    Unfortunately not now. Grudinin doesn’t seem to be real alternative, others are just clowns appointed to be faked alternatives.

    And the future of Russia is very vague.

    Alas, nobody will listen to Cohen, at least not until the regime in Washington DC and the power structure which supports it, and whose interests it represents, come crashing down.

    But, thanks to US neocons, it’s probaly no future at all going to happen, just getting back to stone age.
    Hope it’s a joke.
    Alas.

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    - he was appointed by Putin,
     
    by Eltsin of cource, sorry
    , @peterAUS

    So I, as well as many Russian....
     

    But now credit is over and if we could see someone good enough to be compared with Putin – quite a significant part of a society is ready to vote for for such person.
    Unfortunately not now.
     

    And the future of Russia is very vague.
     
    Informative.
    , @bluedog
    As they say you can't make everyone happy, for they could have always in their limited view and knowledge of what's going on behind the scenes could always have done more,but the fact remains that Putin was the right person at the right time for Russia...
    , @Sergey Krieger
    Very good post. Agree.
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  5. neutral says:

    there is Anna Kushchenko (a.k.a. Anna Chapman) – a devious sex doll who seduces Western men into treason

    Western men that serve the virulently anti white regimes are the ones committing treason. Getting some action from some honeypot spy AND at the same time working against a regime that is openly hostile to whites (USA, UK, Germany, etc) – what exactly is the downside here?

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  6. Renoman says:

    Putin is the leader of the free World. A sensible man with a real set of nuts, he stands almost alone.

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    Anon from TN
    You wrote: “Putin is the leader of the free World. A sensible man with a real set of nuts, he stands almost alone”.
    In my view, you grossly overestimate Putin. He is a normal man, capable and intelligent, but he is not by any means that larger-than-life leader and savior of the free World. He looks much greater than he is because you subconsciously compare him with pathetic nonentities that the Western world sees as leaders now. In fact, the leadership of the US Empire and all its vassal countries visibly degenerated in the last decades. Just compare De Gaulle with sad excuses La Belle France had for presidents lately. Or compare Nixon (he might have been a nasty person, but he was a great President of the country) with various clintons, bushes, obamas, and trumps. Or compare Chancellor Kohl with that poor excuse for a chancellor that Germany has today. You get the drift.
    Putin’s Russia punches much more than its economic power warrants for the simple reason that he plays chess, seeing many moves ahead, whereas Western leaders he deals with don’t even have enough brains to play checkers. He is often winning the game with weak hand not so much because he is great, but because his opponents are clueless. I’d say he, Chinese Xi, and Israel’s Bibi look so smart not because they are geniuses, but because they are dealing with morons.
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  7. There are still some voices of reason left in the US. The most aggressive, dangerous and trigger-happy country in the world is the US Empire.

    http://www.newspronto.com/opinion/45229-the-demonization-of-president-vladimir-putin-must-stop

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  8. yurivku says:
    @yurivku
    Thank you Saker. It was an interesting reading.

    Both of you - The Saker and prof. Cohen probably are right in yours conclusions about Putin and its role in world and Russia's history. But:
    - he was appointed by Putin, as I.Shamir ( http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-rich-also-cry/ ) said to guard Old Money;
    - he did alot for our country and really saved it from final crushing, but he could have done much more and he had not.

    I mean corruption questions when he behaves very selectively (keeping some corruptioners while fight with others, this looks like undercover fight), economy (thanks US imbeciles with sanctions which forced him to support internal productions and agriculture), he did almost nothing to get those oligarchs's money work for country, he does invest to different unneeded projects (like football champ etc) not trying to help poorest part of our society, he still does nothing (even supports) 5th column (Chubais, Kudrin, Shuvalov, Gref ...), building stupid Eltsin center ....

    So I, as well as many Russian, have a very contraditory feelings to him. After Crimea joined Russia we all gave him a big credit. Most than 90% of Russians happy of this, when root and lovely part of Russia returned home not to say about strategic meaning of that.
    But now credit is over and if we could see someone good enough to be compared with Putin - quite a significant part of a society is ready to vote for for such person.
    Unfortunately not now. Grudinin doesn't seem to be real alternative, others are just clowns appointed to be faked alternatives.

    And the future of Russia is very vague.


    Alas, nobody will listen to Cohen, at least not until the regime in Washington DC and the power structure which supports it, and whose interests it represents, come crashing down.
     
    But, thanks to US neocons, it's probaly no future at all going to happen, just getting back to stone age.
    Hope it's a joke.
    Alas.

    - he was appointed by Putin,

    by Eltsin of cource, sorry

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  9. Randal says:

    Professor Cohen is right: the real Putin has absolutely nothing, nothing at all, in common with the pseudo-Putin the Western media presents to its infinitely gullible and zombified audience. Alas, nobody will listen to Cohen, at least not until the regime in Washington DC and the power structure which supports it, and whose interests it represents, come crashing down. But I do believe that Professor Cohen will eventually go down in history as the most intellectually honest and courageous Russia expert in the US.

    It’s very encouraging for me to get the impression that a genuine expert, such as Cohen is on Russia and on Putin, has reached the same broad conclusions about Putin as I have as a mere amateur (albeit long-time) observer of world events.

    It’s vaguely discouraging that on the particular issues of homosexuals and jewish influence Cohen is able to “reassure” the worst parts of his leftist and presumably political correctness-hobbled audience on Putin, but it’s not really a big concern for me. It would be better imo if Putin had wise views on those topics – “gays” are not a “minority” but rather just people who choose to engage in sexual perversion which ought, at the least, to not be officially encouraged, and jewish people are a recognisable ethnic/national/religious group, with broadly clear identity interests and external loyalties not necessarily congruent with those of the nations they live in, but it’s mostly not really any of my business or concern, except insofar as it plays into politics and international policy over here, since he’s the Russian president and I’m not Russian.

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    Anon from TN
    As a biologist, I disagree with your view that gays “chose” to be what they are. Attraction to your own sex is not a choice you make: it’s a psychiatric disorder. Nobody chooses schizophrenia or psychosis, it’s a disease the sufferers can’t help having. For that reason gays should not be punished for the disorder they have, but that disorder cannot be considered a norm, either.
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    Anyone who would bother to examine the issue would arrive at the same conclusions as Mr Cohen. Most Americans won’t but just rely on what the mass media transmits to them. The propaganda campaign against Putin depends on repeating the same themes over and over again hence the constant use of the term “thug” to influence the minds of the audience. The campaign against Putin is so vehement and shrill because of his effectiveness in building up the Russian state. Contrast it to the treatment Yeltsin received in the western media as a brave fighter for democracy with pics of him standing on top of a tank. Name calling can’t harm Putin or Russia even if it creates an unpleasant environment. After all, they have their army and can’t be aggressed against no matter any wishful thinking. The toxic haze is to get the western mind used to the idea that conflict with the Russians, or Putin, in inevitable and desirable to free the world of a dictator. Clinton appeared to want a no-fly zone over Syria and thus military confrontation was on the horizon over that and over other places. We were being prepared for that. That seems to have dissipated for the moment but the internal dynamic of US expansionism remains. What we don’t want to do is start believing our own baloney and blunder into any conflict that could cause a catastrophe.

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    Amongst people who tend to really distrust, dislike people, where we are called Russian agents, or Russians.
    I have studied lots about Russia, especially since 1990 plus.

    I also came to similar over years as Cohen.
    There is no plan for USSR rebirth, or tanks rolling to Poland and Berlin,
    or even returning to super power status (at least unlikely).

    In 1990 the Russians were in very poor state, and now they have returned to world power status.
    I think its important to have bipolar world. (even multipolar would be better).

    Now I dont love Russians, Im still mixed on Putin, but I think
    Russians and Putin have made some positive changes.
    I can respect that. Average Russian, morals are similar to mine (and the same can be said of most Slavics).
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  11. peterAUS says:
    @yurivku
    Thank you Saker. It was an interesting reading.

    Both of you - The Saker and prof. Cohen probably are right in yours conclusions about Putin and its role in world and Russia's history. But:
    - he was appointed by Putin, as I.Shamir ( http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-rich-also-cry/ ) said to guard Old Money;
    - he did alot for our country and really saved it from final crushing, but he could have done much more and he had not.

    I mean corruption questions when he behaves very selectively (keeping some corruptioners while fight with others, this looks like undercover fight), economy (thanks US imbeciles with sanctions which forced him to support internal productions and agriculture), he did almost nothing to get those oligarchs's money work for country, he does invest to different unneeded projects (like football champ etc) not trying to help poorest part of our society, he still does nothing (even supports) 5th column (Chubais, Kudrin, Shuvalov, Gref ...), building stupid Eltsin center ....

    So I, as well as many Russian, have a very contraditory feelings to him. After Crimea joined Russia we all gave him a big credit. Most than 90% of Russians happy of this, when root and lovely part of Russia returned home not to say about strategic meaning of that.
    But now credit is over and if we could see someone good enough to be compared with Putin - quite a significant part of a society is ready to vote for for such person.
    Unfortunately not now. Grudinin doesn't seem to be real alternative, others are just clowns appointed to be faked alternatives.

    And the future of Russia is very vague.


    Alas, nobody will listen to Cohen, at least not until the regime in Washington DC and the power structure which supports it, and whose interests it represents, come crashing down.
     
    But, thanks to US neocons, it's probaly no future at all going to happen, just getting back to stone age.
    Hope it's a joke.
    Alas.

    So I, as well as many Russian….

    But now credit is over and if we could see someone good enough to be compared with Putin – quite a significant part of a society is ready to vote for for such person.
    Unfortunately not now.

    And the future of Russia is very vague.

    Informative.

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  12. bluedog says:
    @yurivku
    Thank you Saker. It was an interesting reading.

    Both of you - The Saker and prof. Cohen probably are right in yours conclusions about Putin and its role in world and Russia's history. But:
    - he was appointed by Putin, as I.Shamir ( http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-rich-also-cry/ ) said to guard Old Money;
    - he did alot for our country and really saved it from final crushing, but he could have done much more and he had not.

    I mean corruption questions when he behaves very selectively (keeping some corruptioners while fight with others, this looks like undercover fight), economy (thanks US imbeciles with sanctions which forced him to support internal productions and agriculture), he did almost nothing to get those oligarchs's money work for country, he does invest to different unneeded projects (like football champ etc) not trying to help poorest part of our society, he still does nothing (even supports) 5th column (Chubais, Kudrin, Shuvalov, Gref ...), building stupid Eltsin center ....

    So I, as well as many Russian, have a very contraditory feelings to him. After Crimea joined Russia we all gave him a big credit. Most than 90% of Russians happy of this, when root and lovely part of Russia returned home not to say about strategic meaning of that.
    But now credit is over and if we could see someone good enough to be compared with Putin - quite a significant part of a society is ready to vote for for such person.
    Unfortunately not now. Grudinin doesn't seem to be real alternative, others are just clowns appointed to be faked alternatives.

    And the future of Russia is very vague.


    Alas, nobody will listen to Cohen, at least not until the regime in Washington DC and the power structure which supports it, and whose interests it represents, come crashing down.
     
    But, thanks to US neocons, it's probaly no future at all going to happen, just getting back to stone age.
    Hope it's a joke.
    Alas.

    As they say you can’t make everyone happy, for they could have always in their limited view and knowledge of what’s going on behind the scenes could always have done more,but the fact remains that Putin was the right person at the right time for Russia…

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    Actually not the worst person, not the "right" one.
    , @yurivku
    Got to PC, writing from smartphone is unhandy

    As they say you can’t make everyone happy, for they could have always in their limited view and knowledge of what’s going on behind the scenes could always have done more
     
    Exactly, but I think you know not more that me here in Russia "what's going on behind the scenes".
    And yes, probably there are hidden reasons for his behaviour, but I've written what many (I beleive the majority) of Russians think. Of cource not all, there are some absolute fans of him and absolute enemies, BTW mainly latter are jews for unknown reasons.


    but the fact remains that Putin was the right person at the right time for Russia…
     
    bold assertion - "the fact".
    It's not the fact, - it's your opinion, not more. Yes, It could have been much worse person, but could have been much better. Or you think he's an ideal?

    Nobody denies his achivements, but I mentioned also his (actually ours) losses or mistakes.
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  13. @peterAUS

    Of course, racists, nationalists and other less than bright folks in Russia will still dream about expelling....
     
    Nationalists are less than bright folks?

    Or just nationalists in Russia? Russian nationalists that is. Only them.

    Interesting.

    The Faker, who lives in Florida and has only visited Russia once (Chechnya for some baffling reason), is well known as a massive cuck.

    This is why he’s always rambling about “shaitans” and talking about how lovely Mohammedans and Chechens are.

    Actual Russians hate Chechens and other vermin from the North Caucasus, and the most common slogan of Russian nationalists on this topic is, “Stop feeding the Caucasus!”

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    • Replies: @peterAUS

    Actual Russians hate Chechens and other vermin from the North Caucasus, and the most common slogan of Russian nationalists on this topic is, “Stop feeding the Caucasus!”
     
    I know.

    It's just sort of funny reading his

    rambling about “shaitans” and talking about how lovely Mohammedans and Chechens are.
     
    Easy from Florida I guess.

    He'd probably change his angle after living for a year in Caucus.
    Not visiting...living there.

    He is Putin fanboy. They all believe that appeasement will work.
    Or....more practical/cynical among them simply care that it works while they are around.
    10, 20 years from now is not their concern.
    , @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN.
    Sorry to disappoint you, but when the Russians saw the example of Ukraine after 2014 they understood the destructive power of primeval tribal nationalism. That’s why after the Ukrainian coup popular support for Russian nationalists nosedived. Let me remind you that neither Kadyrov, nor Shoigu, nor Lavrov are ethnic Russians, yet they are perceived by many in the country as super-Russians. Many in today’s Russia hold the view that Russian is not a nationality, but a state of mind. Let me remind you the words of former commander of Gorlovka (Donetsk Republic) Bezler: “My mother is Ukrainian, my father German, so who am I? A Russian!”
    , @Twodees Partain
    And this would be interesting because......?

    Admit that you neither read the piece nor watched the video so that your comment can be put in the proper perspective. This is, after all, a thread discussing the article rather than the author. I've made the same kind of comment you just made and have regretted doing so since then, mainly because I do appreciate this venue and wish to show that appreciation.
    , @anonymous

    This is why he’s always rambling about “shaitans” and talking about how lovely Mohammedans and Chechens are.
     
    Who gives a shit what you godless polytheist degenerates think of us "Mohammedans," or for that matter the effing Chechens.

    But, as far as the mf-western “shaitans” are concerned, history provides enough proof of that, Ahole.

    Try learning from that.

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  14. peterAUS says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    The Faker, who lives in Florida and has only visited Russia once (Chechnya for some baffling reason), is well known as a massive cuck.

    This is why he's always rambling about "shaitans" and talking about how lovely Mohammedans and Chechens are.

    Actual Russians hate Chechens and other vermin from the North Caucasus, and the most common slogan of Russian nationalists on this topic is, "Stop feeding the Caucasus!"

    Actual Russians hate Chechens and other vermin from the North Caucasus, and the most common slogan of Russian nationalists on this topic is, “Stop feeding the Caucasus!”

    I know.

    It’s just sort of funny reading his

    rambling about “shaitans” and talking about how lovely Mohammedans and Chechens are.

    Easy from Florida I guess.

    He’d probably change his angle after living for a year in Caucus.
    Not visiting…living there.

    He is Putin fanboy. They all believe that appeasement will work.
    Or….more practical/cynical among them simply care that it works while they are around.
    10, 20 years from now is not their concern.

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    PeterAUS;

    It is obvious you do not like Putin.

    I suspect you like nobody except Ante Pavelic.
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  15. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @Renoman
    Putin is the leader of the free World. A sensible man with a real set of nuts, he stands almost alone.

    Anon from TN
    You wrote: “Putin is the leader of the free World. A sensible man with a real set of nuts, he stands almost alone”.
    In my view, you grossly overestimate Putin. He is a normal man, capable and intelligent, but he is not by any means that larger-than-life leader and savior of the free World. He looks much greater than he is because you subconsciously compare him with pathetic nonentities that the Western world sees as leaders now. In fact, the leadership of the US Empire and all its vassal countries visibly degenerated in the last decades. Just compare De Gaulle with sad excuses La Belle France had for presidents lately. Or compare Nixon (he might have been a nasty person, but he was a great President of the country) with various clintons, bushes, obamas, and trumps. Or compare Chancellor Kohl with that poor excuse for a chancellor that Germany has today. You get the drift.
    Putin’s Russia punches much more than its economic power warrants for the simple reason that he plays chess, seeing many moves ahead, whereas Western leaders he deals with don’t even have enough brains to play checkers. He is often winning the game with weak hand not so much because he is great, but because his opponents are clueless. I’d say he, Chinese Xi, and Israel’s Bibi look so smart not because they are geniuses, but because they are dealing with morons.

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  16. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @Randal

    Professor Cohen is right: the real Putin has absolutely nothing, nothing at all, in common with the pseudo-Putin the Western media presents to its infinitely gullible and zombified audience. Alas, nobody will listen to Cohen, at least not until the regime in Washington DC and the power structure which supports it, and whose interests it represents, come crashing down. But I do believe that Professor Cohen will eventually go down in history as the most intellectually honest and courageous Russia expert in the US.
     
    It's very encouraging for me to get the impression that a genuine expert, such as Cohen is on Russia and on Putin, has reached the same broad conclusions about Putin as I have as a mere amateur (albeit long-time) observer of world events.

    It's vaguely discouraging that on the particular issues of homosexuals and jewish influence Cohen is able to "reassure" the worst parts of his leftist and presumably political correctness-hobbled audience on Putin, but it's not really a big concern for me. It would be better imo if Putin had wise views on those topics - "gays" are not a "minority" but rather just people who choose to engage in sexual perversion which ought, at the least, to not be officially encouraged, and jewish people are a recognisable ethnic/national/religious group, with broadly clear identity interests and external loyalties not necessarily congruent with those of the nations they live in, but it's mostly not really any of my business or concern, except insofar as it plays into politics and international policy over here, since he's the Russian president and I'm not Russian.

    Anon from TN
    As a biologist, I disagree with your view that gays “chose” to be what they are. Attraction to your own sex is not a choice you make: it’s a psychiatric disorder. Nobody chooses schizophrenia or psychosis, it’s a disease the sufferers can’t help having. For that reason gays should not be punished for the disorder they have, but that disorder cannot be considered a norm, either.

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    My view on the matter is that no man can choose the temptations to which he is subject, but every man is responsible for those to which he succumbs. And one is no more a homosexual merely for being tempted to have sex with another man than one is a murderer merely for having murderous thoughts about one's fellows.
    , @polskijoe
    There are various theories about homosexuals.

    Whether something happened during pregancy,
    whether the child was attacked, raped.
    whether society or chemicals effect.

    I dont think they choose their orientation either,
    but certainly their actions (sodomy, and other weird things) are a choice.
    , @yurivku

    but that disorder cannot be considered a norm, either.
     
    Agree. But despite knowing that it's another taboo,I would say not only consider them anormal, but we should isolate those "gays" from normal society (at least fom childs) for they always try to reproduce theirs behaviour
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  17. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    The Faker, who lives in Florida and has only visited Russia once (Chechnya for some baffling reason), is well known as a massive cuck.

    This is why he's always rambling about "shaitans" and talking about how lovely Mohammedans and Chechens are.

    Actual Russians hate Chechens and other vermin from the North Caucasus, and the most common slogan of Russian nationalists on this topic is, "Stop feeding the Caucasus!"

    Anon from TN.
    Sorry to disappoint you, but when the Russians saw the example of Ukraine after 2014 they understood the destructive power of primeval tribal nationalism. That’s why after the Ukrainian coup popular support for Russian nationalists nosedived. Let me remind you that neither Kadyrov, nor Shoigu, nor Lavrov are ethnic Russians, yet they are perceived by many in the country as super-Russians. Many in today’s Russia hold the view that Russian is not a nationality, but a state of mind. Let me remind you the words of former commander of Gorlovka (Donetsk Republic) Bezler: “My mother is Ukrainian, my father German, so who am I? A Russian!”

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    If Kadyrov is indeed "Russian," then neither I nor any normal person would want anything to do with Russia.

    Fortunately, nobody perceives Kadyrov as a Russian apart from terminal stage Putinism of the brain sufferers, who tend to congregate at The Saker's blog.

    Both Shoigu and Lavrov are half-Russians.
    , @JustJeff
    It’s a nice idea. It’s good to know that I, a half-Russian half-Jewish guy born and raised in the JewSA, can still be Russian. It’s a nice idea but it’s a stupid idea as well. If America with its endless prosperity, plentiful land, and rootless cosmopolitanism can’t make civic nationalism work then there’s no way in hell that Russia could make it work.

    Besides, Putin isn’t keeping a lid on nationalism because he believes in any grand ideal of Russia for everyone, he’s doing it to maintain stability.
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  18. AP says:

    Let me remind you the words of former commander of Gorlovka (Donetsk Republic) Bezler: “My mother is Ukrainian, my father German, so who am I? A Russian!”

    He would more accurately have stated – “My mother is Ukrainian, my father German, so who am I? A Sovok!”

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    Anon from TN.
    Well, current Ukrainian regime is a lot more “Sovok” than those who resist it. At least if by “Sovok” you mean rampant corruption, widespread unprofessionalism, and obsession with a totally loony ideology.
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  19. Randal says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    As a biologist, I disagree with your view that gays “chose” to be what they are. Attraction to your own sex is not a choice you make: it’s a psychiatric disorder. Nobody chooses schizophrenia or psychosis, it’s a disease the sufferers can’t help having. For that reason gays should not be punished for the disorder they have, but that disorder cannot be considered a norm, either.

    My view on the matter is that no man can choose the temptations to which he is subject, but every man is responsible for those to which he succumbs. And one is no more a homosexual merely for being tempted to have sex with another man than one is a murderer merely for having murderous thoughts about one’s fellows.

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    Anon from TN
    I am not talking about temptations. Heterosexual men can be tempted to have sex with various women, but most select one (or few) to actually have sex with. I am sure homosexual men can also be tempted by many, but get close to few. The difference is that biologically normal males are tempted by females, and females by males, whereas homosexuals are tempted by persons of their own sex. One can argue that there is always celibacy as an option, but it actually damages people mentally and sometimes physically. So, as a biologist, I know that its abnormal, but I wouldn’t be judgmental. You cannot blame a blind person for the inability to see. But you don’t let blind people drive cars or fly airplanes, either.
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  20. Dan Hayes says:

    The Saker,

    For the last four years I have listened to Prof Steve Cohen being interviewed on the John Batchelor radio show. In those discussions I have always been struck by Cohen’s equanimity, scholarship and sense of fair play. (As an aside, I have also been struck by his seemingly fond regard for being reared and educated in Kentucky which at that time was still semi-segregated.)

    Cohen oftentimes contrasts the Old Cold War where various viewpoints were on the table versus the one-sidedness of the New Cold War. And he especially castigates his fellow left wingers for failing to consider alternative viewpoints. Note that Cohen is associated with The Nation magazine, a leftist publication edited and subsidized by his wife.

    As of now Cohen is a lone voice crying out in the wilderness. I concur with your judgement and it is my hope that history will honor him for his efforts.

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    "Cohen is a lone voice crying out in the wilderness."

    Feels that way, but he's not totally alone. For example, I believe most members of VIPS (Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity) feel about the same. And he's a board member of the American Committee for East-West Accord.
    https://eastwestaccord.com/
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  21. polskijoe says:
    @anonymous
    Anyone who would bother to examine the issue would arrive at the same conclusions as Mr Cohen. Most Americans won't but just rely on what the mass media transmits to them. The propaganda campaign against Putin depends on repeating the same themes over and over again hence the constant use of the term "thug" to influence the minds of the audience. The campaign against Putin is so vehement and shrill because of his effectiveness in building up the Russian state. Contrast it to the treatment Yeltsin received in the western media as a brave fighter for democracy with pics of him standing on top of a tank. Name calling can't harm Putin or Russia even if it creates an unpleasant environment. After all, they have their army and can't be aggressed against no matter any wishful thinking. The toxic haze is to get the western mind used to the idea that conflict with the Russians, or Putin, in inevitable and desirable to free the world of a dictator. Clinton appeared to want a no-fly zone over Syria and thus military confrontation was on the horizon over that and over other places. We were being prepared for that. That seems to have dissipated for the moment but the internal dynamic of US expansionism remains. What we don't want to do is start believing our own baloney and blunder into any conflict that could cause a catastrophe.

    Amongst people who tend to really distrust, dislike people, where we are called Russian agents, or Russians.
    I have studied lots about Russia, especially since 1990 plus.

    I also came to similar over years as Cohen.
    There is no plan for USSR rebirth, or tanks rolling to Poland and Berlin,
    or even returning to super power status (at least unlikely).

    In 1990 the Russians were in very poor state, and now they have returned to world power status.
    I think its important to have bipolar world. (even multipolar would be better).

    Now I dont love Russians, Im still mixed on Putin, but I think
    Russians and Putin have made some positive changes.
    I can respect that. Average Russian, morals are similar to mine (and the same can be said of most Slavics).

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    I agree that multi-polar would be better, ideal, even. There's really no benefit to the people of Earth in having empires competing for dominance.
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  22. polskijoe says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    As a biologist, I disagree with your view that gays “chose” to be what they are. Attraction to your own sex is not a choice you make: it’s a psychiatric disorder. Nobody chooses schizophrenia or psychosis, it’s a disease the sufferers can’t help having. For that reason gays should not be punished for the disorder they have, but that disorder cannot be considered a norm, either.

    There are various theories about homosexuals.

    Whether something happened during pregancy,
    whether the child was attacked, raped.
    whether society or chemicals effect.

    I dont think they choose their orientation either,
    but certainly their actions (sodomy, and other weird things) are a choice.

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    Yeah. "There are various theories" but "certainly" yours is the correct one.

    You are as bad as the Saker. Saying something is "undeniable" is an old Marxist mannerism.

    It is more a sign that you have no evidence or logic to back up your case.

    "Other weird things." How scientific. Oh, yeah. Makes perfect sense. Hahahaaaaa!
    , @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN.
    Yes, the cause of the disease is unclear (likely it can be either genetic, or acquired, or both to a different extent in each case). The cause of schizophrenia and most psychiatric disorders is also unclear. There is often genetic predisposition of various strengths, but environment usually plays a role. However, diseased person cannot choose the symptoms, they come with the disease.
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  23. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @AP

    Let me remind you the words of former commander of Gorlovka (Donetsk Republic) Bezler: “My mother is Ukrainian, my father German, so who am I? A Russian!”
     
    He would more accurately have stated - “My mother is Ukrainian, my father German, so who am I? A Sovok!”

    Anon from TN.
    Well, current Ukrainian regime is a lot more “Sovok” than those who resist it. At least if by “Sovok” you mean rampant corruption, widespread unprofessionalism, and obsession with a totally loony ideology.

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  24. RobinG says:
    @Dan Hayes
    The Saker,

    For the last four years I have listened to Prof Steve Cohen being interviewed on the John Batchelor radio show. In those discussions I have always been struck by Cohen's equanimity, scholarship and sense of fair play. (As an aside, I have also been struck by his seemingly fond regard for being reared and educated in Kentucky which at that time was still semi-segregated.)

    Cohen oftentimes contrasts the Old Cold War where various viewpoints were on the table versus the one-sidedness of the New Cold War. And he especially castigates his fellow left wingers for failing to consider alternative viewpoints. Note that Cohen is associated with The Nation magazine, a leftist publication edited and subsidized by his wife.

    As of now Cohen is a lone voice crying out in the wilderness. I concur with your judgement and it is my hope that history will honor him for his efforts.

    “Cohen is a lone voice crying out in the wilderness.”

    Feels that way, but he’s not totally alone. For example, I believe most members of VIPS (Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity) feel about the same. And he’s a board member of the American Committee for East-West Accord.

    https://eastwestaccord.com/

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  25. nebulafox says:

    I neither like nor dislike Putin. He is what he is, he’s in charge of Russia, he needs to be dealt with.

    >He is not the man who de-democratized Russia (Elstin and the White House did)

    When was Russia ever democratic to begin with? Tsarism, civil war, Communism, oligarchy, Putin. That’s pretty much been it. And that’s OK. Russia is a massively different culture. But the US isn’t to blame.

    >He is not the leader who created corruption and kleptocracy in Russia (Elstin and the White House did)

    No. Corruption began to really take off in the 1970s under Brezhnev, and that’s when the Russian mafia began to strongly collaborate with the government, breaking the old vor code. The KGB remained above it all, but Putin was the product of a corrupt society from the get-go.

    Following the collapse of the USSR, yes, everything got a lot more explicit and out-there. But the rot didn’t just appear overnight.

    >He is not a criminal leader who ordered the murder of opponents or journalists (no evidence)

    I don’t find it hard to believe, but I don’t care enough to find out one way or the other. What Putin does in his own country is, or should be, his own business. Properly conducted foreign policy cares about the external actions of foreign nations, not their internal ones, but that’s anathema to American political culture-on both sides of the political spectrum.

    Besides, I can’t really label a single group in society I could care less about than journalists.

    >He did not order the hacking of the DNC servers (no evidence)

    Again: I don’t find it hard to believe he did, but I don’t think it is as relevant as the Democrats would like it to be. Intelligence services can exacerbate political conditions. They cannot create them. Putin did not force Hillary to run arguably the most inept campaign in American political history, losing in spite of the near uniform backing of everything “official” in the US. Unless you believe Moscow magically spawned millions of pissed off downscale white voters in the Rust Belt, try again.

    Moreover, Putin definitely wanted Trump to create political chaos in the US. Whether he wanted him in the White House is an open matter. Though he’s friendlier than Hillary on a lot of foreign policy issues, he’s surrounded by standard issue GOP hawks who influence everything, and he must be disappointed. Furthermore, like all authoritarian rulers, Putin wants stability. (That’s why, prior to Bush II, most authoritarian governments in the world-especially Russia and China-openly preferred Republicans in charge.) Trump is anything but.

    >He was not anti-US or anti-West from the get-go (Putin changed over time)

    Correct. He’s changed over the years.

    >He is not a neo-Soviet leader (he is very critical of Lenin and Stalin)

    Very critical of Lenin, which should surprise no one given that Lenin himself was far more fond of Western culture-specifically German-than Russia, who he thought of as a backward, “Asiatic” place. As I’ve said, the KGB following Stalin’s purges was arguably the least ideologically Communist place in the USSR, at least compared to their major two rivals-the military and party-in the ever ongoing three-war political struggle that characterized post-Stalin Russia.

    More ambiguous with Stalin. He’s been making noises about replacing Volgograd’s name around the anniversery of the battle back to the old Stalingrad. I think he holds the standard views that Russians his age hold of Stalin. I think they’ll readily agree that he’s probably in hell if it exists right now, and showed there was such a thing as being too fond of law and order, but he was *their* SOB and got them through the war.

    >He is not an aggressive foreign policy leader (he has been a reactive leader)

    He is primarily defensive, yes. Partially by necessity-his Russia just can’t project power like the USSR could-but also because, unlike the USSR, his Russia is not governed by an ideology that necessarily implies eventual expansionism.

    >He is not somehow defined by his years at the KGB.

    He’s partially defined by them, but not in the way people think. The KGB was, by the time Putin was in the organization, far and away the least ideologically Communist place in the USSR and saw their main function as protecting what was essentially an old-style Muscovite imperium with Marxist trappings from the spoiled, corrupt party princelings-who they did not allow into the organization. The KGB was the only place someone like Putin could have accelerated, given that 1970s USSR had one of the lowest social mobility rates in the world, contrary to the propaganda. Chekist thinking is very evident in his public pronouncements, his actions, and his beliefs about how life works. It’s pretty obvious. Putin’s regime is the first in history to be dominated by former security and intelligence professionals to this extent. Most of his inner circle-former intelligence officers.

    However, equally important is old-style Tsarist Orthodox-laden Slavophilism, and just plain greed and venality. The third one is overlooked. I think Putin’s real first goal, all things balanced, is staying in charge, on top, and wealthy. That means keeping the various turf lords in check and satisfied. It works for now. What happens to the sand-castle when he dies is a different matter.

    That’s it. Goodbye Unz.

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  26. @polskijoe
    There are various theories about homosexuals.

    Whether something happened during pregancy,
    whether the child was attacked, raped.
    whether society or chemicals effect.

    I dont think they choose their orientation either,
    but certainly their actions (sodomy, and other weird things) are a choice.

    Yeah. “There are various theories” but “certainly” yours is the correct one.

    You are as bad as the Saker. Saying something is “undeniable” is an old Marxist mannerism.

    It is more a sign that you have no evidence or logic to back up your case.

    “Other weird things.” How scientific. Oh, yeah. Makes perfect sense. Hahahaaaaa!

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    Don’t just leave it like that. Criticizing someone’s theory, without coming up with your own – superior one. How did it happen?

    Is it because of the freedom, the democracy – which is where the west really shines in comparison with the ex-communist states.

    Is it because democracy allows you to choose between man and woman (how wonderful) and the brutal communist dictatorships – if you were a man -forced you to sleep with women only (how awful).
    , @polskijoe
    Oh dear, must have struck mr neocons nerves.

    To be clear I said its not certain in regards to homosexual orientation (how it starts).
    What I said is that their actions are choices.
    Going to a fag parade, sodomy, abusing children by adopting them, are examples. they know what they are doing.

    This is a forum, not a phd science class. Homos do a lot of weird things.

    Hahah!

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  27. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @polskijoe
    There are various theories about homosexuals.

    Whether something happened during pregancy,
    whether the child was attacked, raped.
    whether society or chemicals effect.

    I dont think they choose their orientation either,
    but certainly their actions (sodomy, and other weird things) are a choice.

    Anon from TN.
    Yes, the cause of the disease is unclear (likely it can be either genetic, or acquired, or both to a different extent in each case). The cause of schizophrenia and most psychiatric disorders is also unclear. There is often genetic predisposition of various strengths, but environment usually plays a role. However, diseased person cannot choose the symptoms, they come with the disease.

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    Isn't there evidence that epigenetic events such as unusual surges of some hormones during pregnancy may be a cause?
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  28. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @Randal
    My view on the matter is that no man can choose the temptations to which he is subject, but every man is responsible for those to which he succumbs. And one is no more a homosexual merely for being tempted to have sex with another man than one is a murderer merely for having murderous thoughts about one's fellows.

    Anon from TN
    I am not talking about temptations. Heterosexual men can be tempted to have sex with various women, but most select one (or few) to actually have sex with. I am sure homosexual men can also be tempted by many, but get close to few. The difference is that biologically normal males are tempted by females, and females by males, whereas homosexuals are tempted by persons of their own sex. One can argue that there is always celibacy as an option, but it actually damages people mentally and sometimes physically. So, as a biologist, I know that its abnormal, but I wouldn’t be judgmental. You cannot blame a blind person for the inability to see. But you don’t let blind people drive cars or fly airplanes, either.

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    You cannot blame a blind person for the inability to see. But you don’t let blind people drive cars or fly airplanes, either.
     
    Exactly, but it's (blind driving) what all West human rights fighters say.
    , @Randal

    I am not talking about temptations.
     
    You are not reading what I wrote, either.

    You use "homosexual" to mean anyone who is tempted to have sex with another person of the same sex. I do not. I use the term, more correctly imo even if not the fashionable usage today, to mean only someone who actually engages in sex with another person of the same sex. Analogous to the term "adulterer", say. Many men are tempted to have sex with women other than their wives, but they are not thereby adulterers.

    To use the term as you do conflates two significantly different things (people who experience temptation to engage in homosexual activity , with those who choose to do so), and that (very conveniently for some, which is why it is used that way) allows personal responsibility for the latter to be hidden. It's an old equivalent of the modern idea of a "sex addict", that tries to conceal personal responsibility for womanizing by medicalising it as a condition of some kind.

    It might well be the case that each is indeed a condition, but it needs always to be remembered also that giving in to temptation is always and in every case a matter of personal choice, and therefore responsibility. Just don't do it, because it's wrong. A society that instead pretends such behaviour is not wrong is a decadent, corrupt and damaged society.

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  29. yurivku says:
    @bluedog
    As they say you can't make everyone happy, for they could have always in their limited view and knowledge of what's going on behind the scenes could always have done more,but the fact remains that Putin was the right person at the right time for Russia...

    Actually not the worst person, not the “right” one.

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    Who would you have recommended?...
    , @Sergey Krieger
    People of Lenin and Stalin caliber do not happen often. I think Putin is sort of transitional figure. However the main issue since Stalin times seems to be lack of systematic approach in bringing up and then putting in power capable leaders and in reality lots of fools getting up there. I believe fools essentially destroyed ussr as saying goes fool is more dangerous than enemy. Long topic but it is really a murky question as to where Russia is going with 70% of everything in few hands and stolen funds siphoned offshore.
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  30. Cyrano says:
    @Johnny Rico
    Yeah. "There are various theories" but "certainly" yours is the correct one.

    You are as bad as the Saker. Saying something is "undeniable" is an old Marxist mannerism.

    It is more a sign that you have no evidence or logic to back up your case.

    "Other weird things." How scientific. Oh, yeah. Makes perfect sense. Hahahaaaaa!

    Don’t just leave it like that. Criticizing someone’s theory, without coming up with your own – superior one. How did it happen?

    Is it because of the freedom, the democracy – which is where the west really shines in comparison with the ex-communist states.

    Is it because democracy allows you to choose between man and woman (how wonderful) and the brutal communist dictatorships – if you were a man -forced you to sleep with women only (how awful).

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  31. yurivku says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    As a biologist, I disagree with your view that gays “chose” to be what they are. Attraction to your own sex is not a choice you make: it’s a psychiatric disorder. Nobody chooses schizophrenia or psychosis, it’s a disease the sufferers can’t help having. For that reason gays should not be punished for the disorder they have, but that disorder cannot be considered a norm, either.

    but that disorder cannot be considered a norm, either.

    Agree. But despite knowing that it’s another taboo,I would say not only consider them anormal, but we should isolate those “gays” from normal society (at least fom childs) for they always try to reproduce theirs behaviour

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    Anon from TN
    I don’t think that you need to isolate gays from heterosexual society any more than you need to isolate people with other mental disorders: isolation is justified only when these people become a threat to others. I do agree, though, that the society should not allow gays adopt children, for the same reason that it does not issue driver’s licenses to blind people.
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  32. yurivku says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    I am not talking about temptations. Heterosexual men can be tempted to have sex with various women, but most select one (or few) to actually have sex with. I am sure homosexual men can also be tempted by many, but get close to few. The difference is that biologically normal males are tempted by females, and females by males, whereas homosexuals are tempted by persons of their own sex. One can argue that there is always celibacy as an option, but it actually damages people mentally and sometimes physically. So, as a biologist, I know that its abnormal, but I wouldn’t be judgmental. You cannot blame a blind person for the inability to see. But you don’t let blind people drive cars or fly airplanes, either.

    You cannot blame a blind person for the inability to see. But you don’t let blind people drive cars or fly airplanes, either.

    Exactly, but it’s (blind driving) what all West human rights fighters say.

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  33. yurivku says:
    @bluedog
    As they say you can't make everyone happy, for they could have always in their limited view and knowledge of what's going on behind the scenes could always have done more,but the fact remains that Putin was the right person at the right time for Russia...

    Got to PC, writing from smartphone is unhandy

    As they say you can’t make everyone happy, for they could have always in their limited view and knowledge of what’s going on behind the scenes could always have done more

    Exactly, but I think you know not more that me here in Russia “what’s going on behind the scenes”.
    And yes, probably there are hidden reasons for his behaviour, but I’ve written what many (I beleive the majority) of Russians think. Of cource not all, there are some absolute fans of him and absolute enemies, BTW mainly latter are jews for unknown reasons.

    but the fact remains that Putin was the right person at the right time for Russia…

    bold assertion – “the fact”.
    It’s not the fact, – it’s your opinion, not more. Yes, It could have been much worse person, but could have been much better. Or you think he’s an ideal?

    Nobody denies his achivements, but I mentioned also his (actually ours) losses or mistakes.

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    The fact is the question I ask who in your mind would have done better and why...
    , @Twodees Partain
    " Of cource not all, there are some absolute fans of him and absolute enemies, BTW mainly latter are jews for unknown reasons."

    Is it possible that the jews who dislike him do so because of his failure to assign special consideration for what those jews see as their special rights? The Zionists/neocons seem to be insistent on having a special status for themselves and to have rights above those of any other ethnicity.
    , @chris

    Of cource not all, there are some absolute fans of him and absolute enemies, BTW mainly latter are jews for unknown reasons.
     
    Is the reason for Jewish hatred of Putin really unknown? In its hysterics, the hatred is similar to the one for Trump. The motive may be that just as they were about to grab the prize, it was snatched from their claws. The expression of this anger is like an insane jealousy. Putin or Trump’s appeasement on every other plane is completely incidental to their goals; he may grovel or he may plea, but they just want him dead.

    When Putin’s next term runs out, Russia will be given the choice of their man or revolution. And by the looks of things they’re not going to wait for the 6 years to be over, even with the risk of nuclear war.

    Am I wrong, Yuri?
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  34. Wally says:
    @Cyrano

    Guilt by association, the punishment of all for the actions of some, scapegoating, the vicious persecution of minorities in the name of some ideal – this has all been tried in the past, both in Russia and in the West. The Nazis did that and so did the Soviets.
     
    Saker, I know you want to sound egalitarian and fair, but comparing Nazi’s and Soviet treatment of minorities – come on man.

    Nazi’s mistreated minorities because of the fact that they were of different ethnicity, and that treatment was reserved for them only, and not for the Germans.

    In the Soviet Union, the mistreatment of minorities had more equal opportunity flavor – they didn’t want to make the minorities feel left out of the mistreatment that the ethnic Russians were receiving themselves.

    In other words, the USSR didn’t want to discriminate against the minorities by treating them differently than the ethnic Russians.

    Imagine how it would have felt from the minorities perspective if the USSR authorities refrained from sending them to the Gulag. They would have felt unloved and unworthy of receiving the same treatment as the Russians. Like they are not good enough to be sent to the Gulag.

    The better-at-military matters-than historical-facts Saker said:
    “And both the Nazis and the Soviets inflicted untold horrors upon the many peoples of the Soviet Union and beyond.”

    Except the ‘Nazis’ did not do what is alleged and there is no proof that they did. Simple as that.

    College freshman-like Cyrano said:
    “Nazi’s mistreated minorities because of the fact that they were of different ethnicity, and that treatment was reserved for them only, and not for the Germans.”

    Except that the Nazis did no such thing. That unsupportable claim merely an indication of his Zionist indoctrination which is easily debunked.
    ex:
    The Myth of a Nazi Extermination of Homosexuals by Jack Wikoff http://www.cwporter.com/homo.htm
    Gypsies and Homosexuals in the Camps http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1894
    homosexuals – Yad Vashem …http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1930

    The ‘minorities, homosexuals & gypsies’ canard is merely an attempt by Jews to buy votes for their laughable and impossible ’6M & gas chambers’.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

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    After the last disturbing video you posted entitled (paraphrasing) "we know about your Rabbis" it seems what you are referring to is know in the traditional Jewish circles as "Metzitzah B'peh", a rather despicable and inhumane tradition, as shown here:

    https://youtu.be/7DdknKq915g

    https://youtu.be/lwVne_f9ulU

    It is my understanding that this behavior, although indefensible, is only practiced within a small sect of Hasidic Jews. Can you provide with some documentation which elaborates on this subject matter?
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  35. polskijoe says:
    @Johnny Rico
    Yeah. "There are various theories" but "certainly" yours is the correct one.

    You are as bad as the Saker. Saying something is "undeniable" is an old Marxist mannerism.

    It is more a sign that you have no evidence or logic to back up your case.

    "Other weird things." How scientific. Oh, yeah. Makes perfect sense. Hahahaaaaa!

    Oh dear, must have struck mr neocons nerves.

    To be clear I said its not certain in regards to homosexual orientation (how it starts).
    What I said is that their actions are choices.
    Going to a fag parade, sodomy, abusing children by adopting them, are examples. they know what they are doing.

    This is a forum, not a phd science class. Homos do a lot of weird things.

    Hahah!

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  36. Randal says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    I am not talking about temptations. Heterosexual men can be tempted to have sex with various women, but most select one (or few) to actually have sex with. I am sure homosexual men can also be tempted by many, but get close to few. The difference is that biologically normal males are tempted by females, and females by males, whereas homosexuals are tempted by persons of their own sex. One can argue that there is always celibacy as an option, but it actually damages people mentally and sometimes physically. So, as a biologist, I know that its abnormal, but I wouldn’t be judgmental. You cannot blame a blind person for the inability to see. But you don’t let blind people drive cars or fly airplanes, either.

    I am not talking about temptations.

    You are not reading what I wrote, either.

    You use “homosexual” to mean anyone who is tempted to have sex with another person of the same sex. I do not. I use the term, more correctly imo even if not the fashionable usage today, to mean only someone who actually engages in sex with another person of the same sex. Analogous to the term “adulterer”, say. Many men are tempted to have sex with women other than their wives, but they are not thereby adulterers.

    To use the term as you do conflates two significantly different things (people who experience temptation to engage in homosexual activity , with those who choose to do so), and that (very conveniently for some, which is why it is used that way) allows personal responsibility for the latter to be hidden. It’s an old equivalent of the modern idea of a “sex addict”, that tries to conceal personal responsibility for womanizing by medicalising it as a condition of some kind.

    It might well be the case that each is indeed a condition, but it needs always to be remembered also that giving in to temptation is always and in every case a matter of personal choice, and therefore responsibility. Just don’t do it, because it’s wrong. A society that instead pretends such behaviour is not wrong is a decadent, corrupt and damaged society.

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    Anon from TN
    Yes, I look at homosexuality from a purely biological (or medical, if you will) perspective. Assuming that you are a Christian, commandments in the Bible (Old Testament) express a view very different from yours: “You shall not covet your neighbor's wife” (repeated in Exodus 20:17, Deuteronomy 5:21). I do agree that people are only responsible for their actions, although the New Testament also looks at it differently: “For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil thoughts …” (Mark 7.21-23).
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  37. bluedog says:
    @yurivku
    Actually not the worst person, not the "right" one.

    Who would you have recommended?…

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    Who would you have recommended?…
     
    Good question. Probably it was a sarcasm and you think you proved I'm wrong?
    After all the answer depends on what you trying to get. For US probably Sobchak will be just fine, for people of Russia who want peace and prosperity the answer will be certainly other.

    I put it quite clear

    But now credit is over and if we could see someone good enough to be compared with Putin – quite a significant part of a society is ready to vote for for such person.
    Unfortunately not now.

     

    Unfortunately I see no specific person

    Grudinin doesn’t seem to be real alternative, others are just clowns appointed to be faked alternatives.
     
    But as for me personally I (probably , I'm still watching for his electoral company) will vote for Grudinin cause he's representing patriotic block, not himself only.
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  38. Vladimir Brovkin [AKA "Vlad"] says:

    Saker did a great job of explaining Cohen’s position on Putin that had been misunderstood in mainstream Western media. Cohen has basically been trying to show that Putin is a normal leader, ready to cooperate with the US and defend his country’s national interests. His posture has been defensive. Cohen is trying to reason with the liberals and New York Jews. He is trying to convince them that the mainstream media is lying. Fine.
    But that does not explain what Putin’s agenda is. Saker goes further. He does explain most of Putin’s past and present. But still there is room for disagreement. Saker argues that Putin knew all along the wicked intentions of the US and openly revealed that knowledge after the Ukraine take over by the US. Here I disagree. When Bush came to Russia Putin greeted him with genuine enthusiasm. Putin then did hope that Russia and US could turn the page and begin a new relationship. That did not happen. Expansion of NATO happened instead. And that is when Putin began to reconsider. My difference with Saker is that I believe that Putin still does not know what his policy to the US should be. He still hopes that Trump will live up to his pre-election promise. Putin is still beholden to the moment of 2003 when Russia Germany France and Italy were together in opposition to US Iraq war. He still craves for the days when the German Chancellor and Italian leader were his personal friends. He hoped then and still hopes today to draw Europe to Russia and undermine NATO from within.
    However, the Ukraine conflict has completely messed up that dream project. My most important objection to Saker is that Putin does not know what to do about Ukraine and does not have a policy on Ukraine. He puts up with what no Russian leader would put up with. Americans are arming Ukrainian neo-Nazies for a war with Russia. And Putin does nothing. Americans openly arm terrorists on Syria who shoot a Russian airplane and Russia does nothing. Basically Putin’s policy of turning enemies into partners and partners into friends and friends into allies has partially succeeded in Syria but failed in Ukraine. Is he going to wait until US missiles are established in Ukraine? Is he going to accept de facto NATO membership of Ukraine. Where is the red line beyond which he would not go?

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    Putin’s main flaw, like Hitler’s, is underestimating the hostility his opponents have towards him and Russia. However, he does know that Russia is not yet ready for a major war and is rightfully proceeding carefully. He has countered NATO’s attempt to close off Russia’s access to the Black Sea. He has been effectively a savior in helping Syria stave off Zio-American terror and halted, at least for now, their continued destabilization of the ME. I would say thus far he has played his cards reasonably well.
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  39. Cohen is a Communist and reflexive hater of the United States in the Noam Chomsky mold. He is either naive or a fool if he believes half of what he is saying.

    Russia never had a decent shot at democracy. The collapse of the Soviet Union was arranged by the Nomenklatura for their own benefit as a massive asset grab. The fight between Yeltsin and the Russian Parliament was basically a fight between two factions, and the Yeltsin/KGB faction beat the CPSU/Red Manager faction. Putin is very much a product of and continuation of the Yeltsin/KGB team (notice, for example, the role that Chubais continues to play in government policy), but the current team realizes how hated Yeltsin is and are smart enough to create plausible distance for public consumption. For the most part the Putin years have been a failure, and these last two decades will be seen as squandered. Very little economic growth, continuing deterioration of the education and health systems, increasing dependence on China and massive transfers of wealth abroad. Those are Putin’s primary achievements. On the plus side, Western sanctions have been a net benefit to Russia over the last three years – keeping capital in the country and giving the agricultural, food processing and light manufacturing industries some room to breathe and develop free from Western competition.

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    Russia never had a decent shot at democracy.

    If you live in either the U$A or Canada democracy only appears appealing to the relative of entitlement that exists in either country.

    In Canada, specifically British Columbia, citizen initiated election reform is being opposed by parties that were not elected into office. First, in 2008, the NDP party, who lost the election (dresses left, hangs right) campaigned against proportional representation, that was initiated by the citizens of BC. Now, 10 years later, the BCLiberal party (dresses right, hangs right), who lost the election, is campaigning against the citizen initiated election reform!!

    So, the underlying message is: only the entitled have the right to discuss democratic reform, and RULE on it, NOT THE CITIZENS THAT VOTED THEM IN!

    In other words, Russia is not alone. It was the relative level of entitlement during Communism that created self-serving elites, which degraded whatever democracy was there, just like in "western" countries. It is not the ideology, it is how it is implemented.

    , @gogis
    Please refrain from comments about Russian affairs in the future, you literally have no idea. Pretty much everything you stated is 180 and considering your tone you either troll or an idiot
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  40. Btw, “Eltsin” is a stupid transliteration. His name is “Ельцин” not “Эльцин”. I thought the Saker knew some Russian.

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    Cohen is a Communist and reflexive hater of the United States in the Noam Chomsky mold. He is either naive or a fool if he believes half of what he is saying.
     
    He's fool and you probably are very clever man. Share with us your wisdom - what your proposals for Russia's future and hers president ?

    Seems like you'll want someone from liberal 5th column? Luckily they have no chances, people hates them, so do I.


    Btw, “Eltsin” is a stupid transliteration. His name is “Ельцин” not “Эльцин”. I thought the Saker knew some Russian.
     
    Just another indication of your enormous IQ -)) Some of us trying to think not just to show theirs ego and achievements in English seeking for typos etc.
    Eltsin just fine to me, enough to say that no enemies did so much harm as he and his team did.
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  41. yurivku says:
    @bluedog
    Who would you have recommended?...

    Who would you have recommended?…

    Good question. Probably it was a sarcasm and you think you proved I’m wrong?
    After all the answer depends on what you trying to get. For US probably Sobchak will be just fine, for people of Russia who want peace and prosperity the answer will be certainly other.

    I put it quite clear

    But now credit is over and if we could see someone good enough to be compared with Putin – quite a significant part of a society is ready to vote for for such person.
    Unfortunately not now.

    Unfortunately I see no specific person

    Grudinin doesn’t seem to be real alternative, others are just clowns appointed to be faked alternatives.

    But as for me personally I (probably , I’m still watching for his electoral company) will vote for Grudinin cause he’s representing patriotic block, not himself only.

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    Anon from TN
    You are free to vote any way you want. However, I’d like to remind you that Russia already had one Director of Sovkhoz as president (Gorbachev), and nothing good came out of it.
    , @bluedog
    No it was not sarcasm nor intended to be, but the simple fact that I wanted to know who in your mind could/would have done better for Russia and its people..
    , @The Scalpel
    What are your thoughts on Shoigu? He sems to be honest and have Russia's best interests at heart
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  42. yurivku says:
    @Peter Akuleyev
    Btw, "Eltsin" is a stupid transliteration. His name is "Ельцин" not "Эльцин". I thought the Saker knew some Russian.

    Cohen is a Communist and reflexive hater of the United States in the Noam Chomsky mold. He is either naive or a fool if he believes half of what he is saying.

    He’s fool and you probably are very clever man. Share with us your wisdom – what your proposals for Russia’s future and hers president ?

    Seems like you’ll want someone from liberal 5th column? Luckily they have no chances, people hates them, so do I.

    Btw, “Eltsin” is a stupid transliteration. His name is “Ельцин” not “Эльцин”. I thought the Saker knew some Russian.

    Just another indication of your enormous IQ -)) Some of us trying to think not just to show theirs ego and achievements in English seeking for typos etc.
    Eltsin just fine to me, enough to say that no enemies did so much harm as he and his team did.

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    Cohen's career got a second life after the fall of the USSR. In his first life, he was a leftist hippie apologist with a prurient interest in communism. He was wrong 100% of the time.
    , @Peter Akuleyev
    Eltsin just fine to me, enough to say that no enemies did so much harm as he and his team did.

    Putin is on the same team as Yeltsin. In this the Russians learned very well from the Americans. If you offer the people the appearance of an alternative they will be thrilled. Just don't offer the people a real alternative.
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  43. FB says:

    Another useless article by this author…

    And oh, the irony…

    This author…who regularly publishes Judeophobic rants…now extolling a Jewish-American scholar…and even commenting with approval on Prof. Cohen’s positive assessment of Jewish-Russian relations…

    Well that is quite rich…the Flaker is the last person on earth who would have any credibility on Jewish-Russian relations…he has made that quite clear…

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    No one gives a shit what you think.
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  44. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @Randal

    I am not talking about temptations.
     
    You are not reading what I wrote, either.

    You use "homosexual" to mean anyone who is tempted to have sex with another person of the same sex. I do not. I use the term, more correctly imo even if not the fashionable usage today, to mean only someone who actually engages in sex with another person of the same sex. Analogous to the term "adulterer", say. Many men are tempted to have sex with women other than their wives, but they are not thereby adulterers.

    To use the term as you do conflates two significantly different things (people who experience temptation to engage in homosexual activity , with those who choose to do so), and that (very conveniently for some, which is why it is used that way) allows personal responsibility for the latter to be hidden. It's an old equivalent of the modern idea of a "sex addict", that tries to conceal personal responsibility for womanizing by medicalising it as a condition of some kind.

    It might well be the case that each is indeed a condition, but it needs always to be remembered also that giving in to temptation is always and in every case a matter of personal choice, and therefore responsibility. Just don't do it, because it's wrong. A society that instead pretends such behaviour is not wrong is a decadent, corrupt and damaged society.

    Anon from TN
    Yes, I look at homosexuality from a purely biological (or medical, if you will) perspective. Assuming that you are a Christian, commandments in the Bible (Old Testament) express a view very different from yours: “You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife” (repeated in Exodus 20:17, Deuteronomy 5:21). I do agree that people are only responsible for their actions, although the New Testament also looks at it differently: “For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil thoughts …” (Mark 7.21-23).

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  45. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @yurivku

    but that disorder cannot be considered a norm, either.
     
    Agree. But despite knowing that it's another taboo,I would say not only consider them anormal, but we should isolate those "gays" from normal society (at least fom childs) for they always try to reproduce theirs behaviour

    Anon from TN
    I don’t think that you need to isolate gays from heterosexual society any more than you need to isolate people with other mental disorders: isolation is justified only when these people become a threat to others. I do agree, though, that the society should not allow gays adopt children, for the same reason that it does not issue driver’s licenses to blind people.

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    Yes we need to isolate those cause they will do their dirty job with childs and u have no enough police to watch. They aggressively set theirs habits remember lgbt parades etc
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  46. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @yurivku

    Who would you have recommended?…
     
    Good question. Probably it was a sarcasm and you think you proved I'm wrong?
    After all the answer depends on what you trying to get. For US probably Sobchak will be just fine, for people of Russia who want peace and prosperity the answer will be certainly other.

    I put it quite clear

    But now credit is over and if we could see someone good enough to be compared with Putin – quite a significant part of a society is ready to vote for for such person.
    Unfortunately not now.

     

    Unfortunately I see no specific person

    Grudinin doesn’t seem to be real alternative, others are just clowns appointed to be faked alternatives.
     
    But as for me personally I (probably , I'm still watching for his electoral company) will vote for Grudinin cause he's representing patriotic block, not himself only.

    Anon from TN
    You are free to vote any way you want. However, I’d like to remind you that Russia already had one Director of Sovkhoz as president (Gorbachev), and nothing good came out of it.

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    Thank u to alow me this. I do remember everything and be sure for me it's more vital than to u living abroad. But its strange to hear it from scientist, not enough data to build such a conclusion
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  47. bluedog says:
    @yurivku
    Got to PC, writing from smartphone is unhandy

    As they say you can’t make everyone happy, for they could have always in their limited view and knowledge of what’s going on behind the scenes could always have done more
     
    Exactly, but I think you know not more that me here in Russia "what's going on behind the scenes".
    And yes, probably there are hidden reasons for his behaviour, but I've written what many (I beleive the majority) of Russians think. Of cource not all, there are some absolute fans of him and absolute enemies, BTW mainly latter are jews for unknown reasons.


    but the fact remains that Putin was the right person at the right time for Russia…
     
    bold assertion - "the fact".
    It's not the fact, - it's your opinion, not more. Yes, It could have been much worse person, but could have been much better. Or you think he's an ideal?

    Nobody denies his achivements, but I mentioned also his (actually ours) losses or mistakes.

    The fact is the question I ask who in your mind would have done better and why…

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    If my opinion really matters i'll write more later, now from phone its abit difficult.
    I can only say that we need clever, honest patriotic person which is not easy task u know. Especially if u are from US, every elections believe that most stupid people we already seen and its cant be worst, but I'm mistaken. Compare for ex Samanta Power and N. Haley or Obama and Trump
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  48. Shemp says:

    Cohen could go further. One of the curious fixations of US public discourse is reducing the country to a leader, when the most comprehensive standard of governance assigns duties to the state as a whole. Anyone can compare Russia and the USA point by point.

    http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/Indicators/Pages/HRIndicatorsIndex.aspx

    http://www.ohchr.org/EN/countries/LACRegion/Pages/USIndex.aspx

    http://www.ohchr.org/EN/countries/ENACARegion/Pages/RUIndex.aspx

    Comparing US and Russian human rights protections, it’s evident that Putin’s Russia undertakes to meet world human rights standards in good faith, and the USA does not. Russians get a better deal than we do.

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  49. bluedog says:
    @yurivku

    Who would you have recommended?…
     
    Good question. Probably it was a sarcasm and you think you proved I'm wrong?
    After all the answer depends on what you trying to get. For US probably Sobchak will be just fine, for people of Russia who want peace and prosperity the answer will be certainly other.

    I put it quite clear

    But now credit is over and if we could see someone good enough to be compared with Putin – quite a significant part of a society is ready to vote for for such person.
    Unfortunately not now.

     

    Unfortunately I see no specific person

    Grudinin doesn’t seem to be real alternative, others are just clowns appointed to be faked alternatives.
     
    But as for me personally I (probably , I'm still watching for his electoral company) will vote for Grudinin cause he's representing patriotic block, not himself only.

    No it was not sarcasm nor intended to be, but the simple fact that I wanted to know who in your mind could/would have done better for Russia and its people..

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    So sorry, hope i've answered. But actually I see no ideal candidate. And it's partly because Putin didnot allow real candidates to appear
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  50. yurivku says:
    @bluedog
    No it was not sarcasm nor intended to be, but the simple fact that I wanted to know who in your mind could/would have done better for Russia and its people..

    So sorry, hope i’ve answered. But actually I see no ideal candidate. And it’s partly because Putin didnot allow real candidates to appear

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    But actually I see no ideal candidate. And it’s partly because Putin didnot allow real candidates to appear
     
    A damning claim. Perhaps you could elucidate how Putin prevented "real candidates" from appearing.
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  51. yurivku says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    You are free to vote any way you want. However, I’d like to remind you that Russia already had one Director of Sovkhoz as president (Gorbachev), and nothing good came out of it.

    Thank u to alow me this. I do remember everything and be sure for me it’s more vital than to u living abroad. But its strange to hear it from scientist, not enough data to build such a conclusion

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    Anon from TN
    You are right, this is not a scientific conclusion. Politics are not science.
    I agree that Putin is not a perfect leader. His foreign policy is smart and successful (hence the US hysterics). But his internal policies are far from admirable: he allows oligarchs to plunder the country and even transfer their loot abroad. A big chunk of state budget is stolen by those close to the trough, but you have to keep in mind that even greater chunk of state budget is stolen by “contractors” in the US and other countries (F35 program and Zumwalt are the best known examples, but there are many more). Thing is, the politics are the game of the possible. I am not sure Putin can maintain his international stance and his position in Russia and antagonize the whole ruling class at the same time. I disapprove of his “vertical” – Russia is not Lichtenstein, it’s a huge country that cannot be directly ruled by one person. I also believe that Russia cannot afford to have a total nonentity as a Prime Minister, with only one redeeming (from Putin’s standpoint) quality: loyalty.
    However, I’ve heard a few of Grudinin’s speeches, and they were very disappointing, to put it mildly. It is nice to say that you want to confiscate oligarch’s money (after all, they just stole it), stop capital flight, nationalize natural resources, etc. It might sound good for the electorate, but without specifying means of achieving these goals, this is pure demagoguery. There is only one way to do all of it, and this way is called “socialism”, like in the USSR. Problem is, this comes in a package: you must make rouble not freely convertible into other currencies, you must strictly control the movement of people across the border, you must introduce planned or at least semi-planned economy, etc. You cannot pick and choose, no more than you can be a little bit pregnant: it is a yes or no thing. If Grudinin does not understand that, he is not smart enough to be president. If he understands it, but does not acknowledge, he is simply dishonest. Many of the other candidates are just clowns supported by the Kremlin to play this role (think Zhirinovsky). Besides, Russia should have as the president someone who cares about the country more than about him/herself (this excludes Sobchak: she is smart, but she cares only about her precious self), and certainly not a traitor running to the US Embassy for money and marching orders (you should know who I mean). Thus, in my humble opinion, Putin, warts and all, is still the best president Russia can have at the moment.
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  52. yurivku says:
    @bluedog
    The fact is the question I ask who in your mind would have done better and why...

    If my opinion really matters i’ll write more later, now from phone its abit difficult.
    I can only say that we need clever, honest patriotic person which is not easy task u know. Especially if u are from US, every elections believe that most stupid people we already seen and its cant be worst, but I’m mistaken. Compare for ex Samanta Power and N. Haley or Obama and Trump

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    Yes I would be interested in your opinion, and yes I do live in the U.S. and yes your right that just when you think the worse has arrived then on the scene one always worse arrives to makes you out as a lair...
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  53. yurivku says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    I don’t think that you need to isolate gays from heterosexual society any more than you need to isolate people with other mental disorders: isolation is justified only when these people become a threat to others. I do agree, though, that the society should not allow gays adopt children, for the same reason that it does not issue driver’s licenses to blind people.

    Yes we need to isolate those cause they will do their dirty job with childs and u have no enough police to watch. They aggressively set theirs habits remember lgbt parades etc

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    Yuri, gays are so yesterday in northern America. It is various transgender and gender confused persons that are all rage. Hymn of Canada is being changed to make it gender neutral. Basically Satan himself would not do better job. Awfully looks like some dark powers at work. What's interesting all these trends started with the fall of ussr. Coincidental? I do not think so. Overall, these freaks lost fear and to get thing under control eventually there must be violence. Society and kids must be protected.
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  54. bluedog says:
    @yurivku
    If my opinion really matters i'll write more later, now from phone its abit difficult.
    I can only say that we need clever, honest patriotic person which is not easy task u know. Especially if u are from US, every elections believe that most stupid people we already seen and its cant be worst, but I'm mistaken. Compare for ex Samanta Power and N. Haley or Obama and Trump

    Yes I would be interested in your opinion, and yes I do live in the U.S. and yes your right that just when you think the worse has arrived then on the scene one always worse arrives to makes you out as a lair…

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    From phone..
    Well, its funny, I just dont understand who are the God sake US people here on UNZ, from different sources I see Americans happy with one more Russian killed in Syria. You know we call Americans "pindosy" ( пиндосы ) I actually not sure what its mean, but its clear that its a most degree of disgust. And further its going the more our disgust.
    And its between two most powerful countries in the world.
    Are u Americans have any feelings of selfdefence? Actually all red lines crossed and everything ready for apocalypse
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  55. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @yurivku
    Thank u to alow me this. I do remember everything and be sure for me it's more vital than to u living abroad. But its strange to hear it from scientist, not enough data to build such a conclusion

    Anon from TN
    You are right, this is not a scientific conclusion. Politics are not science.
    I agree that Putin is not a perfect leader. His foreign policy is smart and successful (hence the US hysterics). But his internal policies are far from admirable: he allows oligarchs to plunder the country and even transfer their loot abroad. A big chunk of state budget is stolen by those close to the trough, but you have to keep in mind that even greater chunk of state budget is stolen by “contractors” in the US and other countries (F35 program and Zumwalt are the best known examples, but there are many more). Thing is, the politics are the game of the possible. I am not sure Putin can maintain his international stance and his position in Russia and antagonize the whole ruling class at the same time. I disapprove of his “vertical” – Russia is not Lichtenstein, it’s a huge country that cannot be directly ruled by one person. I also believe that Russia cannot afford to have a total nonentity as a Prime Minister, with only one redeeming (from Putin’s standpoint) quality: loyalty.
    However, I’ve heard a few of Grudinin’s speeches, and they were very disappointing, to put it mildly. It is nice to say that you want to confiscate oligarch’s money (after all, they just stole it), stop capital flight, nationalize natural resources, etc. It might sound good for the electorate, but without specifying means of achieving these goals, this is pure demagoguery. There is only one way to do all of it, and this way is called “socialism”, like in the USSR. Problem is, this comes in a package: you must make rouble not freely convertible into other currencies, you must strictly control the movement of people across the border, you must introduce planned or at least semi-planned economy, etc. You cannot pick and choose, no more than you can be a little bit pregnant: it is a yes or no thing. If Grudinin does not understand that, he is not smart enough to be president. If he understands it, but does not acknowledge, he is simply dishonest. Many of the other candidates are just clowns supported by the Kremlin to play this role (think Zhirinovsky). Besides, Russia should have as the president someone who cares about the country more than about him/herself (this excludes Sobchak: she is smart, but she cares only about her precious self), and certainly not a traitor running to the US Embassy for money and marching orders (you should know who I mean). Thus, in my humble opinion, Putin, warts and all, is still the best president Russia can have at the moment.

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    Pbone.
    I'll answer,later. But just understand that for us its a live question, well probably for the whole world also, but this stupid world doesn't know it yet
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  56. yurivku says:
    @bluedog
    Yes I would be interested in your opinion, and yes I do live in the U.S. and yes your right that just when you think the worse has arrived then on the scene one always worse arrives to makes you out as a lair...

    From phone..
    Well, its funny, I just dont understand who are the God sake US people here on UNZ, from different sources I see Americans happy with one more Russian killed in Syria. You know we call Americans “pindosy” ( пиндосы ) I actually not sure what its mean, but its clear that its a most degree of disgust. And further its going the more our disgust.
    And its between two most powerful countries in the world.
    Are u Americans have any feelings of selfdefence? Actually all red lines crossed and everything ready for apocalypse

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    Oh I don't think most Americans are glad to see another Russian killed, at least not the sane ones that is,or anyone else for that matter but our so called leadership is quite a different matter, and the farther down the rabbit hole we go the worse it becomes as the best government money can buy goes into overdrive,for I suspect it will get a whole lot worse before it even starts to get and better...
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  57. @yurivku
    Thank you Saker. It was an interesting reading.

    Both of you - The Saker and prof. Cohen probably are right in yours conclusions about Putin and its role in world and Russia's history. But:
    - he was appointed by Putin, as I.Shamir ( http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-rich-also-cry/ ) said to guard Old Money;
    - he did alot for our country and really saved it from final crushing, but he could have done much more and he had not.

    I mean corruption questions when he behaves very selectively (keeping some corruptioners while fight with others, this looks like undercover fight), economy (thanks US imbeciles with sanctions which forced him to support internal productions and agriculture), he did almost nothing to get those oligarchs's money work for country, he does invest to different unneeded projects (like football champ etc) not trying to help poorest part of our society, he still does nothing (even supports) 5th column (Chubais, Kudrin, Shuvalov, Gref ...), building stupid Eltsin center ....

    So I, as well as many Russian, have a very contraditory feelings to him. After Crimea joined Russia we all gave him a big credit. Most than 90% of Russians happy of this, when root and lovely part of Russia returned home not to say about strategic meaning of that.
    But now credit is over and if we could see someone good enough to be compared with Putin - quite a significant part of a society is ready to vote for for such person.
    Unfortunately not now. Grudinin doesn't seem to be real alternative, others are just clowns appointed to be faked alternatives.

    And the future of Russia is very vague.


    Alas, nobody will listen to Cohen, at least not until the regime in Washington DC and the power structure which supports it, and whose interests it represents, come crashing down.
     
    But, thanks to US neocons, it's probaly no future at all going to happen, just getting back to stone age.
    Hope it's a joke.
    Alas.

    Very good post. Agree.

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    Thanx Sergey, its not post, just a cry. Well, im joking. Probably
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  58. yurivku says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    Very good post. Agree.

    Thanx Sergey, its not post, just a cry. Well, im joking. Probably

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    Not only you. Last 33 years has been "interesting" times. I cannot believe in 1985 future for all of us looked so bright. Not without issues, but not this.
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  59. yurivku says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    You are right, this is not a scientific conclusion. Politics are not science.
    I agree that Putin is not a perfect leader. His foreign policy is smart and successful (hence the US hysterics). But his internal policies are far from admirable: he allows oligarchs to plunder the country and even transfer their loot abroad. A big chunk of state budget is stolen by those close to the trough, but you have to keep in mind that even greater chunk of state budget is stolen by “contractors” in the US and other countries (F35 program and Zumwalt are the best known examples, but there are many more). Thing is, the politics are the game of the possible. I am not sure Putin can maintain his international stance and his position in Russia and antagonize the whole ruling class at the same time. I disapprove of his “vertical” – Russia is not Lichtenstein, it’s a huge country that cannot be directly ruled by one person. I also believe that Russia cannot afford to have a total nonentity as a Prime Minister, with only one redeeming (from Putin’s standpoint) quality: loyalty.
    However, I’ve heard a few of Grudinin’s speeches, and they were very disappointing, to put it mildly. It is nice to say that you want to confiscate oligarch’s money (after all, they just stole it), stop capital flight, nationalize natural resources, etc. It might sound good for the electorate, but without specifying means of achieving these goals, this is pure demagoguery. There is only one way to do all of it, and this way is called “socialism”, like in the USSR. Problem is, this comes in a package: you must make rouble not freely convertible into other currencies, you must strictly control the movement of people across the border, you must introduce planned or at least semi-planned economy, etc. You cannot pick and choose, no more than you can be a little bit pregnant: it is a yes or no thing. If Grudinin does not understand that, he is not smart enough to be president. If he understands it, but does not acknowledge, he is simply dishonest. Many of the other candidates are just clowns supported by the Kremlin to play this role (think Zhirinovsky). Besides, Russia should have as the president someone who cares about the country more than about him/herself (this excludes Sobchak: she is smart, but she cares only about her precious self), and certainly not a traitor running to the US Embassy for money and marching orders (you should know who I mean). Thus, in my humble opinion, Putin, warts and all, is still the best president Russia can have at the moment.

    Pbone.
    I’ll answer,later. But just understand that for us its a live question, well probably for the whole world also, but this stupid world doesn’t know it yet

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  60. @yurivku
    Actually not the worst person, not the "right" one.

    People of Lenin and Stalin caliber do not happen often. I think Putin is sort of transitional figure. However the main issue since Stalin times seems to be lack of systematic approach in bringing up and then putting in power capable leaders and in reality lots of fools getting up there. I believe fools essentially destroyed ussr as saying goes fool is more dangerous than enemy. Long topic but it is really a murky question as to where Russia is going with 70% of everything in few hands and stolen funds siphoned offshore.

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  61. @yurivku
    Yes we need to isolate those cause they will do their dirty job with childs and u have no enough police to watch. They aggressively set theirs habits remember lgbt parades etc

    Yuri, gays are so yesterday in northern America. It is various transgender and gender confused persons that are all rage. Hymn of Canada is being changed to make it gender neutral. Basically Satan himself would not do better job. Awfully looks like some dark powers at work. What’s interesting all these trends started with the fall of ussr. Coincidental? I do not think so. Overall, these freaks lost fear and to get thing under control eventually there must be violence. Society and kids must be protected.

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    Yes, i've heard about this, but still can not imagine the scale it had on the west in common and Canada in particular. Disgusting. We have some stupids (again mainly jews) who struggle for humans to have rights on theirs asses, but luckily our society is not rotten yet.
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  62. @yurivku
    Thanx Sergey, its not post, just a cry. Well, im joking. Probably

    Not only you. Last 33 years has been “interesting” times. I cannot believe in 1985 future for all of us looked so bright. Not without issues, but not this.

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    "I cannot believe in 1985 future for all of us looked so brigh"

    Does this mean that you were leaving Russia with happy mood?
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  63. bluedog says:
    @yurivku
    From phone..
    Well, its funny, I just dont understand who are the God sake US people here on UNZ, from different sources I see Americans happy with one more Russian killed in Syria. You know we call Americans "pindosy" ( пиндосы ) I actually not sure what its mean, but its clear that its a most degree of disgust. And further its going the more our disgust.
    And its between two most powerful countries in the world.
    Are u Americans have any feelings of selfdefence? Actually all red lines crossed and everything ready for apocalypse

    Oh I don’t think most Americans are glad to see another Russian killed, at least not the sane ones that is,or anyone else for that matter but our so called leadership is quite a different matter, and the farther down the rabbit hole we go the worse it becomes as the best government money can buy goes into overdrive,for I suspect it will get a whole lot worse before it even starts to get and better…

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    Aren't you funny people Americans? The so called "lidership" leads you to abyss and u do nothing, just complain a little in internet.
    Faggots behave much more actively - the demonstrate theirs desires, so future belongs to them, i'm afraid
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    @yurivku

    Who would you have recommended?…
     
    Good question. Probably it was a sarcasm and you think you proved I'm wrong?
    After all the answer depends on what you trying to get. For US probably Sobchak will be just fine, for people of Russia who want peace and prosperity the answer will be certainly other.

    I put it quite clear

    But now credit is over and if we could see someone good enough to be compared with Putin – quite a significant part of a society is ready to vote for for such person.
    Unfortunately not now.

     

    Unfortunately I see no specific person

    Grudinin doesn’t seem to be real alternative, others are just clowns appointed to be faked alternatives.
     
    But as for me personally I (probably , I'm still watching for his electoral company) will vote for Grudinin cause he's representing patriotic block, not himself only.

    What are your thoughts on Shoigu? He sems to be honest and have Russia’s best interests at heart

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    He's a dark horse and I know almost nothing about him. There are rumours Putin gonna appoint Shoigu as his descendant, but Shoigu himself keeps silence.
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  65. @yurivku

    Cohen is a Communist and reflexive hater of the United States in the Noam Chomsky mold. He is either naive or a fool if he believes half of what he is saying.
     
    He's fool and you probably are very clever man. Share with us your wisdom - what your proposals for Russia's future and hers president ?

    Seems like you'll want someone from liberal 5th column? Luckily they have no chances, people hates them, so do I.


    Btw, “Eltsin” is a stupid transliteration. His name is “Ельцин” not “Эльцин”. I thought the Saker knew some Russian.
     
    Just another indication of your enormous IQ -)) Some of us trying to think not just to show theirs ego and achievements in English seeking for typos etc.
    Eltsin just fine to me, enough to say that no enemies did so much harm as he and his team did.

    Cohen’s career got a second life after the fall of the USSR. In his first life, he was a leftist hippie apologist with a prurient interest in communism. He was wrong 100% of the time.

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    Just another professor appered. I think its a wrong resource for u. You can be underestimated here -)
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  66. yurivku says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    Yuri, gays are so yesterday in northern America. It is various transgender and gender confused persons that are all rage. Hymn of Canada is being changed to make it gender neutral. Basically Satan himself would not do better job. Awfully looks like some dark powers at work. What's interesting all these trends started with the fall of ussr. Coincidental? I do not think so. Overall, these freaks lost fear and to get thing under control eventually there must be violence. Society and kids must be protected.

    Yes, i’ve heard about this, but still can not imagine the scale it had on the west in common and Canada in particular. Disgusting. We have some stupids (again mainly jews) who struggle for humans to have rights on theirs asses, but luckily our society is not rotten yet.

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    The most important is to destroy this sort of tendencies before they take off as a trend. Regarding Jews. When state is strong and coherent they might play positive role while those of them who dare must be suppressed. However, being genetical opportunists , when state gets weak, Jewish community acts as swamp from where dangerous viruses and bacteria spread. Berezovski used to be math professor but when he so opportunity he turned into virus and so did many. Not all of course much percentage wise enough to have statistical significance. Caucasians also sensing weakness immediately used their chance but being primitive they are not as dangerous except for their birth rates compared to Russians.
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  67. yurivku says:
    @The Scalpel
    What are your thoughts on Shoigu? He sems to be honest and have Russia's best interests at heart

    He’s a dark horse and I know almost nothing about him. There are rumours Putin gonna appoint Shoigu as his descendant, but Shoigu himself keeps silence.

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    The interesting thing about Shoigu - apart from his large-scale corruption - is that he was against the Crimean operation in 2014 (according to Zygar's All the Kremlin's Men).

    So basically a worthy successor to Putin.
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  68. yurivku says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    Not only you. Last 33 years has been "interesting" times. I cannot believe in 1985 future for all of us looked so bright. Not without issues, but not this.

    “I cannot believe in 1985 future for all of us looked so brigh”

    Does this mean that you were leaving Russia with happy mood?

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    What good mood? I was leaving from Uzbekistan. I remember new year 1992. We celebrated new year, I was drunk and depressed. I had no illusion as to we were fucked. Actually I was sensing already before 1991 as already in 1989 summer after returning from China internship and seeing crazy changes within one year I told my dad it would have been good idea to start moving back to Russia. Bit was not heard. Actually many from our "voennogo gorodka" started looking for this options when it wad still possible. After 1992 Gaidar reform and disintegration it becomes not easy task. I still have friends eho stuck there.
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  69. yurivku says:
    @bluedog
    Oh I don't think most Americans are glad to see another Russian killed, at least not the sane ones that is,or anyone else for that matter but our so called leadership is quite a different matter, and the farther down the rabbit hole we go the worse it becomes as the best government money can buy goes into overdrive,for I suspect it will get a whole lot worse before it even starts to get and better...

    Aren’t you funny people Americans? The so called “lidership” leads you to abyss and u do nothing, just complain a little in internet.
    Faggots behave much more actively – the demonstrate theirs desires, so future belongs to them, i’m afraid

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    I believe it is all divide and rule strategy by western elites. Gender, race. It is far easier to control and fleece when steeple is distracted and confused, unity, moral and ethics are destroyed. With Soviet union in place as other choice and pole it would have never happened even in the West. And frankly, were ussr still in place the West would have been completely bankrupt by now. Our resources bought them 20 years. Why do you think so much hatred towards Russia? Imagine your favorite meal refusing to get eaten but actually fighting back successfully.
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  70. yurivku says:
    @Prof. Woland
    Cohen's career got a second life after the fall of the USSR. In his first life, he was a leftist hippie apologist with a prurient interest in communism. He was wrong 100% of the time.

    Just another professor appered. I think its a wrong resource for u. You can be underestimated here -)

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  71. @yurivku

    Cohen is a Communist and reflexive hater of the United States in the Noam Chomsky mold. He is either naive or a fool if he believes half of what he is saying.
     
    He's fool and you probably are very clever man. Share with us your wisdom - what your proposals for Russia's future and hers president ?

    Seems like you'll want someone from liberal 5th column? Luckily they have no chances, people hates them, so do I.


    Btw, “Eltsin” is a stupid transliteration. His name is “Ельцин” not “Эльцин”. I thought the Saker knew some Russian.
     
    Just another indication of your enormous IQ -)) Some of us trying to think not just to show theirs ego and achievements in English seeking for typos etc.
    Eltsin just fine to me, enough to say that no enemies did so much harm as he and his team did.

    Eltsin just fine to me, enough to say that no enemies did so much harm as he and his team did.

    Putin is on the same team as Yeltsin. In this the Russians learned very well from the Americans. If you offer the people the appearance of an alternative they will be thrilled. Just don’t offer the people a real alternative.

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    Why do u posting such a bs? Yes, Putin came from Eltsin team, but he not destroying but buildin country. And dont speak for all russians, we certainly differ from your imaginations of us
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  72. @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN.
    Sorry to disappoint you, but when the Russians saw the example of Ukraine after 2014 they understood the destructive power of primeval tribal nationalism. That’s why after the Ukrainian coup popular support for Russian nationalists nosedived. Let me remind you that neither Kadyrov, nor Shoigu, nor Lavrov are ethnic Russians, yet they are perceived by many in the country as super-Russians. Many in today’s Russia hold the view that Russian is not a nationality, but a state of mind. Let me remind you the words of former commander of Gorlovka (Donetsk Republic) Bezler: “My mother is Ukrainian, my father German, so who am I? A Russian!”

    If Kadyrov is indeed “Russian,” then neither I nor any normal person would want anything to do with Russia.

    Fortunately, nobody perceives Kadyrov as a Russian apart from terminal stage Putinism of the brain sufferers, who tend to congregate at The Saker’s blog.

    Both Shoigu and Lavrov are half-Russians.

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    Anon from TN
    Russians have a whole range of different feelings about Kadyrov. These feelings change depending on the events. Let me remind you that Kadyrov visited Kiev in 2014, scared the shit out of Ukrainian “leaders”, and secured an unconditional release of two Russian journalists, Oleg Sidyakin and Marat Saichenko:
    https://www.rt.com/news/161344-ukraine-russian-jounalists-released/
    This greatly increased his approval inside Russia.
    As to Shoigu, he is indeed half-Russian. In contrast, Lavrov is half-Georgian and half-Armenian.
    Anyway, my point was that blood ethnicity does not matter as much in Russia today. Primeval tribal feelings became scarce after the coup in Ukraine in 2014. That was a huge boon for Russia of the coup organized by the US and its vassals. One can easily argue that this change strengthened Russia, contrary to the expectations of those who invested $5 billion into making Ukraine the shithole it is now. Talk of unintended consequences.
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  73. @yurivku
    He's a dark horse and I know almost nothing about him. There are rumours Putin gonna appoint Shoigu as his descendant, but Shoigu himself keeps silence.

    The interesting thing about Shoigu – apart from his large-scale corruption – is that he was against the Crimean operation in 2014 (according to Zygar’s All the Kremlin’s Men).

    So basically a worthy successor to Putin.

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    Anatoly, would it be reasonable to ask whatever became of "Soviet Expert" Condi Rice? NSA and SecState to "W", one each? Did she not oversee some part of the banking and diplomatic accommodations toward the oligarchs over there that raped Russia? Prior to that, she was on Reagan and GHW Bush's team. Thoughts? Or was she always an EEOC placeholder? She is at Augusta National, she's a member.
    , @yurivku
    Hope it's just a dirty fake. But who knows...
    , @The Scalpel
    Tell us more about the large scale corruption, please
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  74. @Anatoly Karlin
    The interesting thing about Shoigu - apart from his large-scale corruption - is that he was against the Crimean operation in 2014 (according to Zygar's All the Kremlin's Men).

    So basically a worthy successor to Putin.

    Anatoly, would it be reasonable to ask whatever became of “Soviet Expert” Condi Rice? NSA and SecState to “W”, one each? Did she not oversee some part of the banking and diplomatic accommodations toward the oligarchs over there that raped Russia? Prior to that, she was on Reagan and GHW Bush’s team. Thoughts? Or was she always an EEOC placeholder? She is at Augusta National, she’s a member.

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  75. yurivku says:
    @Peter Akuleyev
    Eltsin just fine to me, enough to say that no enemies did so much harm as he and his team did.

    Putin is on the same team as Yeltsin. In this the Russians learned very well from the Americans. If you offer the people the appearance of an alternative they will be thrilled. Just don't offer the people a real alternative.

    Why do u posting such a bs? Yes, Putin came from Eltsin team, but he not destroying but buildin country. And dont speak for all russians, we certainly differ from your imaginations of us

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    He captured you perfectly.
    , @Johnny Rico
    You have a lot of good thoughts. Don't you think it might be a good idea to learn English?
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  76. yurivku says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    The interesting thing about Shoigu - apart from his large-scale corruption - is that he was against the Crimean operation in 2014 (according to Zygar's All the Kremlin's Men).

    So basically a worthy successor to Putin.

    Hope it’s just a dirty fake. But who knows…

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  77. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    If Kadyrov is indeed "Russian," then neither I nor any normal person would want anything to do with Russia.

    Fortunately, nobody perceives Kadyrov as a Russian apart from terminal stage Putinism of the brain sufferers, who tend to congregate at The Saker's blog.

    Both Shoigu and Lavrov are half-Russians.

    Anon from TN
    Russians have a whole range of different feelings about Kadyrov. These feelings change depending on the events. Let me remind you that Kadyrov visited Kiev in 2014, scared the shit out of Ukrainian “leaders”, and secured an unconditional release of two Russian journalists, Oleg Sidyakin and Marat Saichenko:

    https://www.rt.com/news/161344-ukraine-russian-jounalists-released/

    This greatly increased his approval inside Russia.
    As to Shoigu, he is indeed half-Russian. In contrast, Lavrov is half-Georgian and half-Armenian.
    Anyway, my point was that blood ethnicity does not matter as much in Russia today. Primeval tribal feelings became scarce after the coup in Ukraine in 2014. That was a huge boon for Russia of the coup organized by the US and its vassals. One can easily argue that this change strengthened Russia, contrary to the expectations of those who invested $5 billion into making Ukraine the shithole it is now. Talk of unintended consequences.

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    Let me remind you that Kadyrov visited Kiev in 2014,
     
    Naive victim of Russian fairytales continues to believe various fairy tales. This is a new one, of course.
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  78. AP says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    Russians have a whole range of different feelings about Kadyrov. These feelings change depending on the events. Let me remind you that Kadyrov visited Kiev in 2014, scared the shit out of Ukrainian “leaders”, and secured an unconditional release of two Russian journalists, Oleg Sidyakin and Marat Saichenko:
    https://www.rt.com/news/161344-ukraine-russian-jounalists-released/
    This greatly increased his approval inside Russia.
    As to Shoigu, he is indeed half-Russian. In contrast, Lavrov is half-Georgian and half-Armenian.
    Anyway, my point was that blood ethnicity does not matter as much in Russia today. Primeval tribal feelings became scarce after the coup in Ukraine in 2014. That was a huge boon for Russia of the coup organized by the US and its vassals. One can easily argue that this change strengthened Russia, contrary to the expectations of those who invested $5 billion into making Ukraine the shithole it is now. Talk of unintended consequences.

    Let me remind you that Kadyrov visited Kiev in 2014,

    Naive victim of Russian fairytales continues to believe various fairy tales. This is a new one, of course.

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    Yea, truth hurts. Losers are particularly vulnerable. My condolences.
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  79. AP says:
    @yurivku
    Why do u posting such a bs? Yes, Putin came from Eltsin team, but he not destroying but buildin country. And dont speak for all russians, we certainly differ from your imaginations of us

    He captured you perfectly.

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    AFAIR u are from khohols ? Just fly down, I wont speak with a shithole representatives
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  80. @yurivku
    Why do u posting such a bs? Yes, Putin came from Eltsin team, but he not destroying but buildin country. And dont speak for all russians, we certainly differ from your imaginations of us

    You have a lot of good thoughts. Don’t you think it might be a good idea to learn English?

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    Thanx, just when you got some Russian, i'll ask u for English lessons. But until then just f##k off.
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  81. @yurivku
    "I cannot believe in 1985 future for all of us looked so brigh"

    Does this mean that you were leaving Russia with happy mood?

    What good mood? I was leaving from Uzbekistan. I remember new year 1992. We celebrated new year, I was drunk and depressed. I had no illusion as to we were fucked. Actually I was sensing already before 1991 as already in 1989 summer after returning from China internship and seeing crazy changes within one year I told my dad it would have been good idea to start moving back to Russia. Bit was not heard. Actually many from our “voennogo gorodka” started looking for this options when it wad still possible. After 1992 Gaidar reform and disintegration it becomes not easy task. I still have friends eho stuck there.

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    Sergey, I 've asked just after u said about bright expectations. Sorry. Actually for me every one who consider our country as Motherland is precious and should be kept and helped.
    See trolls are under attack, dont know which .. but ill refresh my english and continue to spread the simple words of reason
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  82. @yurivku
    Yes, i've heard about this, but still can not imagine the scale it had on the west in common and Canada in particular. Disgusting. We have some stupids (again mainly jews) who struggle for humans to have rights on theirs asses, but luckily our society is not rotten yet.

    The most important is to destroy this sort of tendencies before they take off as a trend. Regarding Jews. When state is strong and coherent they might play positive role while those of them who dare must be suppressed. However, being genetical opportunists , when state gets weak, Jewish community acts as swamp from where dangerous viruses and bacteria spread. Berezovski used to be math professor but when he so opportunity he turned into virus and so did many. Not all of course much percentage wise enough to have statistical significance. Caucasians also sensing weakness immediately used their chance but being primitive they are not as dangerous except for their birth rates compared to Russians.

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    Sergey, I dont give my explanations and underderstandings when I just fix the presence of jews here and there. Of cource I have an explanation, but I keep it for now. But as always they are here.
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  83. yurivku says:
    @Johnny Rico
    You have a lot of good thoughts. Don't you think it might be a good idea to learn English?

    Thanx, just when you got some Russian, i’ll ask u for English lessons. But until then just f##k off.

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    I’m sure he will as soon as he starts posting on a russain board. In the meantime it doesnt change the fact that some of your posts are difficult to understand. Also using things related to 733t speak such as “u”as apposed to the word “you” makes you sound like a petulant teenager.
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  84. @yurivku
    Aren't you funny people Americans? The so called "lidership" leads you to abyss and u do nothing, just complain a little in internet.
    Faggots behave much more actively - the demonstrate theirs desires, so future belongs to them, i'm afraid

    I believe it is all divide and rule strategy by western elites. Gender, race. It is far easier to control and fleece when steeple is distracted and confused, unity, moral and ethics are destroyed. With Soviet union in place as other choice and pole it would have never happened even in the West. And frankly, were ussr still in place the West would have been completely bankrupt by now. Our resources bought them 20 years. Why do you think so much hatred towards Russia? Imagine your favorite meal refusing to get eaten but actually fighting back successfully.

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    Sergey, if u'll come to Russia, just cal me my email is yurivku then l dot ru, try to write. Ill be happy to help if I can
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  85. yurivku says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    What good mood? I was leaving from Uzbekistan. I remember new year 1992. We celebrated new year, I was drunk and depressed. I had no illusion as to we were fucked. Actually I was sensing already before 1991 as already in 1989 summer after returning from China internship and seeing crazy changes within one year I told my dad it would have been good idea to start moving back to Russia. Bit was not heard. Actually many from our "voennogo gorodka" started looking for this options when it wad still possible. After 1992 Gaidar reform and disintegration it becomes not easy task. I still have friends eho stuck there.

    Sergey, I ‘ve asked just after u said about bright expectations. Sorry. Actually for me every one who consider our country as Motherland is precious and should be kept and helped.
    See trolls are under attack, dont know which .. but ill refresh my english and continue to spread the simple words of reason

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    • Replies: @Sergey Krieger
    Future looked bright in 1985 when I finished school. Misunderstanding.
    , @yurivku
    Hope, you'll like it https://youtu.be/JTcAXiJAFBE
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  86. yurivku says:
    @AP
    He captured you perfectly.

    AFAIR u are from khohols ? Just fly down, I wont speak with a shithole representatives

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    Try to write in better English.
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  87. yurivku says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    I believe it is all divide and rule strategy by western elites. Gender, race. It is far easier to control and fleece when steeple is distracted and confused, unity, moral and ethics are destroyed. With Soviet union in place as other choice and pole it would have never happened even in the West. And frankly, were ussr still in place the West would have been completely bankrupt by now. Our resources bought them 20 years. Why do you think so much hatred towards Russia? Imagine your favorite meal refusing to get eaten but actually fighting back successfully.

    Sergey, if u’ll come to Russia, just cal me my email is yurivku then l dot ru, try to write. Ill be happy to help if I can

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  88. yurivku says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    The most important is to destroy this sort of tendencies before they take off as a trend. Regarding Jews. When state is strong and coherent they might play positive role while those of them who dare must be suppressed. However, being genetical opportunists , when state gets weak, Jewish community acts as swamp from where dangerous viruses and bacteria spread. Berezovski used to be math professor but when he so opportunity he turned into virus and so did many. Not all of course much percentage wise enough to have statistical significance. Caucasians also sensing weakness immediately used their chance but being primitive they are not as dangerous except for their birth rates compared to Russians.

    Sergey, I dont give my explanations and underderstandings when I just fix the presence of jews here and there. Of cource I have an explanation, but I keep it for now. But as always they are here.

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  89. @yurivku
    Sergey, I 've asked just after u said about bright expectations. Sorry. Actually for me every one who consider our country as Motherland is precious and should be kept and helped.
    See trolls are under attack, dont know which .. but ill refresh my english and continue to spread the simple words of reason

    Future looked bright in 1985 when I finished school. Misunderstanding.

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  90. AP says:
    @yurivku
    AFAIR u are from khohols ? Just fly down, I wont speak with a shithole representatives

    Try to write in better English.

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    I urge you to demand from him that he changes his religion to Catholicism too. That way he will not only make benefit for the glorious nation of Ukraine, but he will also comply with the higher civilizational standards that the people of the extremely westernized and advanced country of Ukraine are accustomed to. When will those savages from the east ever learn?
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  91. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @AP

    Let me remind you that Kadyrov visited Kiev in 2014,
     
    Naive victim of Russian fairytales continues to believe various fairy tales. This is a new one, of course.

    Yea, truth hurts. Losers are particularly vulnerable. My condolences.

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    So in your world Kadyrov came to Kiev in 2014? Very funny.
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  92. AP says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Yea, truth hurts. Losers are particularly vulnerable. My condolences.

    So in your world Kadyrov came to Kiev in 2014? Very funny.

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    Anon from TN
    He didn’t even need to fly there personally: he scared pathetic nonentities calling themselves Ukrainian leaders long-range. The truth is, first Ukraine denied OSCE mission access to these journalists, broke all the rules so badly that even Human Rights Watch said that Ukraine dangerously interferes with press freedom. But all this bluster evaporated when Kadyrov entered negotiations. Within 4 days both journalists were released unconditionally and flown to Moscow. Typical Ukraine: it “suffered a glorious victory” then, not for the first and not for the last time.
    As is widely known, Ukraine is the only country in the world that shot down two civilian aircraft and not a single military one. However hard the Empire and its lackeys try to convince the gullible that Malayan Boeing in 2014 was shot down by Russia or Russia-backed Donbass freedom fighters, international airlines made their conclusions: all fly over Russia, but they fly around Ukraine, avoiding Ukrainian airspace like they avoid North Korean.
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  93. @Vladimir Brovkin
    Saker did a great job of explaining Cohen's position on Putin that had been misunderstood in mainstream Western media. Cohen has basically been trying to show that Putin is a normal leader, ready to cooperate with the US and defend his country's national interests. His posture has been defensive. Cohen is trying to reason with the liberals and New York Jews. He is trying to convince them that the mainstream media is lying. Fine.
    But that does not explain what Putin's agenda is. Saker goes further. He does explain most of Putin's past and present. But still there is room for disagreement. Saker argues that Putin knew all along the wicked intentions of the US and openly revealed that knowledge after the Ukraine take over by the US. Here I disagree. When Bush came to Russia Putin greeted him with genuine enthusiasm. Putin then did hope that Russia and US could turn the page and begin a new relationship. That did not happen. Expansion of NATO happened instead. And that is when Putin began to reconsider. My difference with Saker is that I believe that Putin still does not know what his policy to the US should be. He still hopes that Trump will live up to his pre-election promise. Putin is still beholden to the moment of 2003 when Russia Germany France and Italy were together in opposition to US Iraq war. He still craves for the days when the German Chancellor and Italian leader were his personal friends. He hoped then and still hopes today to draw Europe to Russia and undermine NATO from within.
    However, the Ukraine conflict has completely messed up that dream project. My most important objection to Saker is that Putin does not know what to do about Ukraine and does not have a policy on Ukraine. He puts up with what no Russian leader would put up with. Americans are arming Ukrainian neo-Nazies for a war with Russia. And Putin does nothing. Americans openly arm terrorists on Syria who shoot a Russian airplane and Russia does nothing. Basically Putin's policy of turning enemies into partners and partners into friends and friends into allies has partially succeeded in Syria but failed in Ukraine. Is he going to wait until US missiles are established in Ukraine? Is he going to accept de facto NATO membership of Ukraine. Where is the red line beyond which he would not go?

    Putin’s main flaw, like Hitler’s, is underestimating the hostility his opponents have towards him and Russia. However, he does know that Russia is not yet ready for a major war and is rightfully proceeding carefully. He has countered NATO’s attempt to close off Russia’s access to the Black Sea. He has been effectively a savior in helping Syria stave off Zio-American terror and halted, at least for now, their continued destabilization of the ME. I would say thus far he has played his cards reasonably well.

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  94. @FB
    Another useless article by this author...

    And oh, the irony...

    This author...who regularly publishes Judeophobic rants...now extolling a Jewish-American scholar...and even commenting with approval on Prof. Cohen's positive assessment of Jewish-Russian relations...

    Well that is quite rich...the Flaker is the last person on earth who would have any credibility on Jewish-Russian relations...he has made that quite clear...

    No one gives a shit what you think.

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    True, that. I know that I certainly don't. ahaha
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  95. Cyrano says:
    @AP
    Try to write in better English.

    I urge you to demand from him that he changes his religion to Catholicism too. That way he will not only make benefit for the glorious nation of Ukraine, but he will also comply with the higher civilizational standards that the people of the extremely westernized and advanced country of Ukraine are accustomed to. When will those savages from the east ever learn?

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    I'm trying not to talk to UA men, for it's useless, and not pleasant like eating a shit.
    They are pretending to be "Western", but actually most of them are just bastards who betrayed theirs very motherland.

    All these shouts are absolutely indefferent to me.
    So thanx, but don't worry -)
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  96. A weird country, the USA.
    Until 1933 the USA did not recognise diplomatically the USSR.
    FDR did.
    Conspiracy theorists, I’m one of them, suppose that already in 1933 FDR was planning his war.
    During the thirties the USSR show trials were denied by USA ambassadors in Moscow, Davies the first, a nephew of Morgenthau.
    USA top brass who met the Russians during WWII were very cynical about them, Patton one of them, he died by an accident, of which many suppose it was murder.

    1948 was the turning point, Stalin blocked Berlin.
    All of a sudden Uncle Joe became a monster, THE threat to the USA
    McCarthy saw communists anywhere.

    Then the long Cold War, an effort by the west to let the USSR fall apart through the burden of defence spending.

    1990 success, not just because of defence spending, but because a centrally directed economy without the profit motive is unable to produce the consumer goods the consumer wants.
    In 1990 I was so naive to think that NATO would be dissolved, it was not.

    What western policy towards the non communist Russia was after 1990, I never fully understood.
    What is clear that the west has resumed the Cold War, under a pretext, this time, with a not negligible chance of turning it into a hot war, the war that will end all wars, the end of humanity.

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    It is certainly no coincidence that US recognition of the SU happened after the rise of nationalist power in Germany that same year (although of course trade issues played a big role as well). FDR’s foreign policy always had a pro-British angle in mind.
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  97. Very early on in his Presidency, the young Vladmir had a heart-to-heart with Tony Blair during an interval at the opera and took years to recover. (I forgrt which opera, but it was the one where the fat lady sings).

    The three top Russkie spooks in DC last week indicate that the adults are in control and all’s well.

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  98. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN.
    Yes, the cause of the disease is unclear (likely it can be either genetic, or acquired, or both to a different extent in each case). The cause of schizophrenia and most psychiatric disorders is also unclear. There is often genetic predisposition of various strengths, but environment usually plays a role. However, diseased person cannot choose the symptoms, they come with the disease.

    Isn’t there evidence that epigenetic events such as unusual surges of some hormones during pregnancy may be a cause?

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    Anon from TN
    “Evidence” is an overstatement. There are reasons to believe that (indirect evidence), as well as many other things. In reality, nobody knows.
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  99. yurivku says:
    @yurivku
    Sergey, I 've asked just after u said about bright expectations. Sorry. Actually for me every one who consider our country as Motherland is precious and should be kept and helped.
    See trolls are under attack, dont know which .. but ill refresh my english and continue to spread the simple words of reason

    Hope, you’ll like it https://youtu.be/JTcAXiJAFBE

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    Well, it was for Sergey -))
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  100. I am a retired CIA ops officer. For what it is worth, this is the best article on Putin, the USSR/Russia and the KGB I have ever read. Russiphobe idiots, take note.

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    Anon from TN
    This ain’t fair: like Cohen, you have knowledge, whereas Russophobe idiots have none.
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  101. yurivku says:
    @yurivku
    Hope, you'll like it https://youtu.be/JTcAXiJAFBE

    Well, it was for Sergey -))

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  102. Putin certainly changed sides about the time he returned to the presidency in 2012. Prior to that he had been slowly steering Russia back to its normal place as a European great power and, thereby, drawing closer to the EU. Suddenly, he became a US neocon stooge and allowed himself to be used as a “useful idiot” in their campaign to destroy the EU. That blunder led him to paint himself into the corner he is now in in Ukraine and that blunder, in turn, led him to wade into the Syrian civil war, thereby painting himself into another corner. What emerges is a man with little or no political savvy who simply lurches from blunder to blunder, with each blunder an attempt to overcome the consequences of the previous blunder. Professor Cohen also repeats a classic neocon propaganda line, namely, that Russians do not see themselves as Europeans. As far as I can tell, that propaganda line was invented by Daniel Pipes and was intended, one supposes, to drive a wedge between Russia and the rest of Europe, in particular the EU. I can find no evidence (to borrow a phrase!) that Russians regard themselves, or have ever regarded themselves, as anything but European and Professor Cohen provides no evidence in support of his claim, although he is quite happy to dismiss criticisms of Putin by arguing that there is no evidence to support them. The classic technique of the pro-Putin camp: when it favours Putin, no evidence is required; when it doesn’t suit him, proof, almost to courtroom standards, has to be provided. Professor Cohen has once again lived up to his reputation as a pro-Putin propagandist and his remarks will be judged accordingly.
    I was amused by the author’s claim that Putin “wants a new, multi-polar, international order of sovereign countries”. He could usefully prove his bona fides in that regard by respecting Ukrainian sovereignty and ceasing to finance anti-EU political parties (the latest, apparently, being the Lega Nord in Italy), thereby violating the sovereignty of the countries in which they operate. Indeed, if he hadn’t started violating the sovereignty of other European countries, there wouldn’t be a dispute with him in the first place! That does tend to support the author’s view that Putin has been double-dealing from the start, which, in its turn, completely demolishes Professor Cohen’s “nice but misunderstood Mr Putin” thesis.

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    I always enjoy your comments Michael, in much the same way as I enjoy the comic strips. Calvin and Hobbes would have to be my favourite and frankly you don't even rate, but at least you try. I have to give you that.
    , @Aedib

    ... in that regard by respecting Ukrainian sovereignty...
     
    You fail to understand what self-determination (i.e. Crimean referendum) means.
    , @Philip Owen
    Spot on, except that I would date the start of Putin's turnaround to February 2004 when the security agencies took over the government by presenting anti-corruption cases against all the major figures. But even then, 2012 was a significant boost to that change.
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  103. @Michael Kenny
    Putin certainly changed sides about the time he returned to the presidency in 2012. Prior to that he had been slowly steering Russia back to its normal place as a European great power and, thereby, drawing closer to the EU. Suddenly, he became a US neocon stooge and allowed himself to be used as a “useful idiot” in their campaign to destroy the EU. That blunder led him to paint himself into the corner he is now in in Ukraine and that blunder, in turn, led him to wade into the Syrian civil war, thereby painting himself into another corner. What emerges is a man with little or no political savvy who simply lurches from blunder to blunder, with each blunder an attempt to overcome the consequences of the previous blunder. Professor Cohen also repeats a classic neocon propaganda line, namely, that Russians do not see themselves as Europeans. As far as I can tell, that propaganda line was invented by Daniel Pipes and was intended, one supposes, to drive a wedge between Russia and the rest of Europe, in particular the EU. I can find no evidence (to borrow a phrase!) that Russians regard themselves, or have ever regarded themselves, as anything but European and Professor Cohen provides no evidence in support of his claim, although he is quite happy to dismiss criticisms of Putin by arguing that there is no evidence to support them. The classic technique of the pro-Putin camp: when it favours Putin, no evidence is required; when it doesn’t suit him, proof, almost to courtroom standards, has to be provided. Professor Cohen has once again lived up to his reputation as a pro-Putin propagandist and his remarks will be judged accordingly.
    I was amused by the author’s claim that Putin “wants a new, multi-polar, international order of sovereign countries”. He could usefully prove his bona fides in that regard by respecting Ukrainian sovereignty and ceasing to finance anti-EU political parties (the latest, apparently, being the Lega Nord in Italy), thereby violating the sovereignty of the countries in which they operate. Indeed, if he hadn’t started violating the sovereignty of other European countries, there wouldn’t be a dispute with him in the first place! That does tend to support the author's view that Putin has been double-dealing from the start, which, in its turn, completely demolishes Professor Cohen's "nice but misunderstood Mr Putin" thesis.

    I always enjoy your comments Michael, in much the same way as I enjoy the comic strips. Calvin and Hobbes would have to be my favourite and frankly you don’t even rate, but at least you try. I have to give you that.

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    Anon from TN
    You underestimate Michael Kenny. Judging by his comments, he is Beavis and Butthead rolled into one.
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  104. @jilles dykstra
    A weird country, the USA.
    Until 1933 the USA did not recognise diplomatically the USSR.
    FDR did.
    Conspiracy theorists, I'm one of them, suppose that already in 1933 FDR was planning his war.
    During the thirties the USSR show trials were denied by USA ambassadors in Moscow, Davies the first, a nephew of Morgenthau.
    USA top brass who met the Russians during WWII were very cynical about them, Patton one of them, he died by an accident, of which many suppose it was murder.

    1948 was the turning point, Stalin blocked Berlin.
    All of a sudden Uncle Joe became a monster, THE threat to the USA
    McCarthy saw communists anywhere.

    Then the long Cold War, an effort by the west to let the USSR fall apart through the burden of defence spending.

    1990 success, not just because of defence spending, but because a centrally directed economy without the profit motive is unable to produce the consumer goods the consumer wants.
    In 1990 I was so naive to think that NATO would be dissolved, it was not.

    What western policy towards the non communist Russia was after 1990, I never fully understood.
    What is clear that the west has resumed the Cold War, under a pretext, this time, with a not negligible chance of turning it into a hot war, the war that will end all wars, the end of humanity.

    It is certainly no coincidence that US recognition of the SU happened after the rise of nationalist power in Germany that same year (although of course trade issues played a big role as well). FDR’s foreign policy always had a pro-British angle in mind.

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    You certainly have wild imagination, Your head is bursting with wisdom.
    On the other hand this one you have pulled out from your arse.
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  105. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Professor Cohen is right: the real Putin has absolutely nothing, nothing at all, in common with the pseudo-Putin the Western media presents to its infinitely gullible and zombified audience.”

    Fake news. Saker is a disinformation joy to read. The masters created the Russian psyop for the media and their so-called mysterious spooks to propagandize and indoctrinate credulous American children. The never ending wave of Russian controversy is slowly succeeding however. It’s not hard to see the media creating and delivering the message while the actors read their lines. Two fake sides gossiping about nothing much at all – eventually no one will disagree about the enemy.

    Stephen F. Cohen is married to Katrina Katrina van den Heuvel. All the actors in the Wall Street-Pentagon media arm are married to one another. Swear an oath children!

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  106. JustJeff says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN.
    Sorry to disappoint you, but when the Russians saw the example of Ukraine after 2014 they understood the destructive power of primeval tribal nationalism. That’s why after the Ukrainian coup popular support for Russian nationalists nosedived. Let me remind you that neither Kadyrov, nor Shoigu, nor Lavrov are ethnic Russians, yet they are perceived by many in the country as super-Russians. Many in today’s Russia hold the view that Russian is not a nationality, but a state of mind. Let me remind you the words of former commander of Gorlovka (Donetsk Republic) Bezler: “My mother is Ukrainian, my father German, so who am I? A Russian!”

    It’s a nice idea. It’s good to know that I, a half-Russian half-Jewish guy born and raised in the JewSA, can still be Russian. It’s a nice idea but it’s a stupid idea as well. If America with its endless prosperity, plentiful land, and rootless cosmopolitanism can’t make civic nationalism work then there’s no way in hell that Russia could make it work.

    Besides, Putin isn’t keeping a lid on nationalism because he believes in any grand ideal of Russia for everyone, he’s doing it to maintain stability.

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    Anon from TN.
    Lame argument. What is stability, pray? It is first and foremost the survival of the country. Tribal nationalism kills countries.
    As far as “endless prosperity” goes, if you write that, you cannot be a US resident. This is a myth popular in “shithole countries”.
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  107. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @AP
    So in your world Kadyrov came to Kiev in 2014? Very funny.

    Anon from TN
    He didn’t even need to fly there personally: he scared pathetic nonentities calling themselves Ukrainian leaders long-range. The truth is, first Ukraine denied OSCE mission access to these journalists, broke all the rules so badly that even Human Rights Watch said that Ukraine dangerously interferes with press freedom. But all this bluster evaporated when Kadyrov entered negotiations. Within 4 days both journalists were released unconditionally and flown to Moscow. Typical Ukraine: it “suffered a glorious victory” then, not for the first and not for the last time.
    As is widely known, Ukraine is the only country in the world that shot down two civilian aircraft and not a single military one. However hard the Empire and its lackeys try to convince the gullible that Malayan Boeing in 2014 was shot down by Russia or Russia-backed Donbass freedom fighters, international airlines made their conclusions: all fly over Russia, but they fly around Ukraine, avoiding Ukrainian airspace like they avoid North Korean.

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    So did Kadyrov come to Kiev or not in your world?

    Your other claims are just as funny. Was 9-11 a Mossad job in your world, is is your idiocy limited to Ukraine?
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  108. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @Anonymous
    Isn't there evidence that epigenetic events such as unusual surges of some hormones during pregnancy may be a cause?

    Anon from TN
    “Evidence” is an overstatement. There are reasons to believe that (indirect evidence), as well as many other things. In reality, nobody knows.

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  109. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @Chris Bridges
    I am a retired CIA ops officer. For what it is worth, this is the best article on Putin, the USSR/Russia and the KGB I have ever read. Russiphobe idiots, take note.

    Anon from TN
    This ain’t fair: like Cohen, you have knowledge, whereas Russophobe idiots have none.

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  110. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    I always enjoy your comments Michael, in much the same way as I enjoy the comic strips. Calvin and Hobbes would have to be my favourite and frankly you don't even rate, but at least you try. I have to give you that.

    Anon from TN
    You underestimate Michael Kenny. Judging by his comments, he is Beavis and Butthead rolled into one.

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    That’s not fair to B&B, who at least provide low-brow humor. Kenney is just a pure annoyance.
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  111. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @JustJeff
    It’s a nice idea. It’s good to know that I, a half-Russian half-Jewish guy born and raised in the JewSA, can still be Russian. It’s a nice idea but it’s a stupid idea as well. If America with its endless prosperity, plentiful land, and rootless cosmopolitanism can’t make civic nationalism work then there’s no way in hell that Russia could make it work.

    Besides, Putin isn’t keeping a lid on nationalism because he believes in any grand ideal of Russia for everyone, he’s doing it to maintain stability.

    Anon from TN.
    Lame argument. What is stability, pray? It is first and foremost the survival of the country. Tribal nationalism kills countries.
    As far as “endless prosperity” goes, if you write that, you cannot be a US resident. This is a myth popular in “shithole countries”.

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  112. Aedib says:
    @Michael Kenny
    Putin certainly changed sides about the time he returned to the presidency in 2012. Prior to that he had been slowly steering Russia back to its normal place as a European great power and, thereby, drawing closer to the EU. Suddenly, he became a US neocon stooge and allowed himself to be used as a “useful idiot” in their campaign to destroy the EU. That blunder led him to paint himself into the corner he is now in in Ukraine and that blunder, in turn, led him to wade into the Syrian civil war, thereby painting himself into another corner. What emerges is a man with little or no political savvy who simply lurches from blunder to blunder, with each blunder an attempt to overcome the consequences of the previous blunder. Professor Cohen also repeats a classic neocon propaganda line, namely, that Russians do not see themselves as Europeans. As far as I can tell, that propaganda line was invented by Daniel Pipes and was intended, one supposes, to drive a wedge between Russia and the rest of Europe, in particular the EU. I can find no evidence (to borrow a phrase!) that Russians regard themselves, or have ever regarded themselves, as anything but European and Professor Cohen provides no evidence in support of his claim, although he is quite happy to dismiss criticisms of Putin by arguing that there is no evidence to support them. The classic technique of the pro-Putin camp: when it favours Putin, no evidence is required; when it doesn’t suit him, proof, almost to courtroom standards, has to be provided. Professor Cohen has once again lived up to his reputation as a pro-Putin propagandist and his remarks will be judged accordingly.
    I was amused by the author’s claim that Putin “wants a new, multi-polar, international order of sovereign countries”. He could usefully prove his bona fides in that regard by respecting Ukrainian sovereignty and ceasing to finance anti-EU political parties (the latest, apparently, being the Lega Nord in Italy), thereby violating the sovereignty of the countries in which they operate. Indeed, if he hadn’t started violating the sovereignty of other European countries, there wouldn’t be a dispute with him in the first place! That does tend to support the author's view that Putin has been double-dealing from the start, which, in its turn, completely demolishes Professor Cohen's "nice but misunderstood Mr Putin" thesis.

    … in that regard by respecting Ukrainian sovereignty…

    You fail to understand what self-determination (i.e. Crimean referendum) means.

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    Anon from TN
    As far as Crimean population is concerned, it tried to get out of Ukraine since the dissolution of the USSR in 1991. Crimeans say that finally in 2014 Russia did not betray them. Polls by Gallup and Pew Research Center in 2014, as well as by German company GfK later, showed that more than 80% of Crimean residents want to be part of Russia, not Ukraine.
    Not to mention that today the expression “Ukrainian sovereignty” makes as much sense as “the virginity of an old prostitute”.
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  113. AP says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    He didn’t even need to fly there personally: he scared pathetic nonentities calling themselves Ukrainian leaders long-range. The truth is, first Ukraine denied OSCE mission access to these journalists, broke all the rules so badly that even Human Rights Watch said that Ukraine dangerously interferes with press freedom. But all this bluster evaporated when Kadyrov entered negotiations. Within 4 days both journalists were released unconditionally and flown to Moscow. Typical Ukraine: it “suffered a glorious victory” then, not for the first and not for the last time.
    As is widely known, Ukraine is the only country in the world that shot down two civilian aircraft and not a single military one. However hard the Empire and its lackeys try to convince the gullible that Malayan Boeing in 2014 was shot down by Russia or Russia-backed Donbass freedom fighters, international airlines made their conclusions: all fly over Russia, but they fly around Ukraine, avoiding Ukrainian airspace like they avoid North Korean.

    So did Kadyrov come to Kiev or not in your world?

    Your other claims are just as funny. Was 9-11 a Mossad job in your world, is is your idiocy limited to Ukraine?

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    Anon from TN
    I am repeating for the particularly gifted: Kadyrov did not need to come to Kiev personally, so he did not. His name was enough to scare the cowards.
    As to 9/11, to the best of my knowledge most evidence points to Al-Qaida. As Al-Qaida was funded, armed, and trained by the CIA, 9/11 was one of the most “glorious” achievements of the US foreign policy. It is rivaled only by the Iraq war, where the US first exposed itself to the world as a blatant liar (remember WMD story and the vial of something Powell was shaking at the UN? Most of the world still remembers), then spent more than a trillion $, only to hand the victory to Iran and Al-Qaida. Of course, Halliburton also won, but it would have been a lot cheaper for the US to just let Halliburton steal $10 billion directly.
    , @bike-anarchist
    Santa Claus is not a Mossad project.

    9/11 is like holocaust; any dissenter is classified as a Downs Syndrome affected Neandrethal... but at least one doesn't go to jail...yet...
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  114. George says:

    “Putin who told an assembly of Orthodox Jews in Moscow that 80-85% of Bolshevik leaders were Jews”

    Jew is not a very precise category anymore.

    The Orthodox Jews in the audiance, many or even all who spoke Russian, probably heard that Bolshevik leaders (who they don’t like) were mostly secular/ethnic Jews (who they don’t appreciate as ‘convenantial’ Jews like the Orthodox are). I would not be surprised if the speech was vetted or even written by an Orthodox Jew who most likely attended the speech.

    Secular/ethnic Western Jews, who think it is their obligation to protect the Orthodox, heard the new Hitler, Putin.

    Secular/ethnic Russian Jews heard that communist Jews were to blame for Bolshevism. Note Putin did not say Jews were Bolsheviks, only the revolutionary leadership were mostly some sort of Jewish subgroup.

    Antisemites heard someone they like, Putin, engage in Jew talk infront of an audience of Jews no less.

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    Atheistic jews define themselves as 'belonging to the jewish culture', something like that.
    Therefore it is so difficult to tell how many jews there are.
    I corresponded with someone whose grandfather around 1870 converted to christianity in Germany, during the conversation my conclusion was that he was still a jew, unable to see jewry objectively.
    So there are maybe three or four times as many jews as commonly thought.
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  115. @George
    "Putin who told an assembly of Orthodox Jews in Moscow that 80-85% of Bolshevik leaders were Jews"

    Jew is not a very precise category anymore.

    The Orthodox Jews in the audiance, many or even all who spoke Russian, probably heard that Bolshevik leaders (who they don't like) were mostly secular/ethnic Jews (who they don't appreciate as 'convenantial' Jews like the Orthodox are). I would not be surprised if the speech was vetted or even written by an Orthodox Jew who most likely attended the speech.

    Secular/ethnic Western Jews, who think it is their obligation to protect the Orthodox, heard the new Hitler, Putin.

    Secular/ethnic Russian Jews heard that communist Jews were to blame for Bolshevism. Note Putin did not say Jews were Bolsheviks, only the revolutionary leadership were mostly some sort of Jewish subgroup.

    Antisemites heard someone they like, Putin, engage in Jew talk infront of an audience of Jews no less.

    Atheistic jews define themselves as ‘belonging to the jewish culture’, something like that.
    Therefore it is so difficult to tell how many jews there are.
    I corresponded with someone whose grandfather around 1870 converted to christianity in Germany, during the conversation my conclusion was that he was still a jew, unable to see jewry objectively.
    So there are maybe three or four times as many jews as commonly thought.

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  116. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @AP
    So did Kadyrov come to Kiev or not in your world?

    Your other claims are just as funny. Was 9-11 a Mossad job in your world, is is your idiocy limited to Ukraine?

    Anon from TN
    I am repeating for the particularly gifted: Kadyrov did not need to come to Kiev personally, so he did not. His name was enough to scare the cowards.
    As to 9/11, to the best of my knowledge most evidence points to Al-Qaida. As Al-Qaida was funded, armed, and trained by the CIA, 9/11 was one of the most “glorious” achievements of the US foreign policy. It is rivaled only by the Iraq war, where the US first exposed itself to the world as a blatant liar (remember WMD story and the vial of something Powell was shaking at the UN? Most of the world still remembers), then spent more than a trillion $, only to hand the victory to Iran and Al-Qaida. Of course, Halliburton also won, but it would have been a lot cheaper for the US to just let Halliburton steal $10 billion directly.

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    I am repeating for the particularly gifted: Kadyrov did not need to come to Kiev personally, so he did not
     
    But before you claimed he did.

    You wrote:

    "Let me remind you that Kadyrov visited Kiev in 2014"

    Your words.

    Were you lying then, or are you lying now?

    Or is it just another example of your well-known cluelessness about Ukraine.
    , @NoseytheDuke
    OK, but now you'll have to explain how al Qaida was able to bypass security and install and wire precision explosives and detonators, how they could organise those convenient "security" drills such as Vigilant Warrior to confound Norad, destroy ATC voice recordings, remove daytime live broadcast content from the evening broadcast news, organise the prompt destruction of evidence from the buildings and ship it overseas as scrap under intense security and fix the "investigation" using Phillip Zelicow. Go on, give it a try.
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  117. @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    You underestimate Michael Kenny. Judging by his comments, he is Beavis and Butthead rolled into one.

    That’s not fair to B&B, who at least provide low-brow humor. Kenney is just a pure annoyance.

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    Anon from TN
    You may be right, unlike B&B, Kenny is not even funny.
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  118. The Scalpel says: • Website
    @Anatoly Karlin
    The interesting thing about Shoigu - apart from his large-scale corruption - is that he was against the Crimean operation in 2014 (according to Zygar's All the Kremlin's Men).

    So basically a worthy successor to Putin.

    Tell us more about the large scale corruption, please

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  119. Slightly off topic, but at 22:40 Cohen says: “He [Putin] needed a consensual history of the country….” I am thinking also of Lincoln’s: ‘A house divided against itself cannot stand.”
    The USA has lost a consensual history of itself. The BLM, Antifa, Postmodernists in Academia curse the USA as the mothership of oppressors, slaveholders, conniving capitalist exploiters, and seek nothing less of the dissolution of any value or norm that holds American society together. Naturally, they having nothing to replace it with, but the utter destruction is good enough.
    No one that I am aware of in the political class here is making any attempt to build such a consensus. Trump needlessly needles and insults people; the Democrats seek the immigrant to build their voter list, and Republicans will sell out to anybody if it preserves their own power.
    How long before we have a weaponized fifth column in the USA such as is now present in Europe?

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    "Republicans will sell out to anybody if it preserves their own power."

    I think it's worse than that. Republican politicians, most of them anyway, will sell out for a stale bagel even if it removes them from power. They truly are the stupid party. Of course, the democrats are primarily evil and only secondarily stupid.
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  120. @Beefcake the Mighty
    It is certainly no coincidence that US recognition of the SU happened after the rise of nationalist power in Germany that same year (although of course trade issues played a big role as well). FDR’s foreign policy always had a pro-British angle in mind.

    You certainly have wild imagination, Your head is bursting with wisdom.
    On the other hand this one you have pulled out from your arse.

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  121. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    That’s not fair to B&B, who at least provide low-brow humor. Kenney is just a pure annoyance.

    Anon from TN
    You may be right, unlike B&B, Kenny is not even funny.

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  122. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @Aedib

    ... in that regard by respecting Ukrainian sovereignty...
     
    You fail to understand what self-determination (i.e. Crimean referendum) means.

    Anon from TN
    As far as Crimean population is concerned, it tried to get out of Ukraine since the dissolution of the USSR in 1991. Crimeans say that finally in 2014 Russia did not betray them. Polls by Gallup and Pew Research Center in 2014, as well as by German company GfK later, showed that more than 80% of Crimean residents want to be part of Russia, not Ukraine.
    Not to mention that today the expression “Ukrainian sovereignty” makes as much sense as “the virginity of an old prostitute”.

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  123. “Jews under Putin in Russia are better off than they had ever been in Russian history.”

    Naturally, this has to be included since it’s the most important factor to be considered in judging whether a foreign leader is good or evil. /sarc
    Not to reject what the Professor said in his speech, but as a comment on his audience. I’d agree that he is brave to give such a speech, especially to such an audience.

    The article lays out a lot that I don’t really know about Putin, but it does fit with what I’ve read in the past 8 or so years, which is the basis for my total rejection of the negative MSM memes on the subject of Putin.

    “If in the West, the treatment of these two minorities is The One And Only Most Important Topic In The Universe – fine. I personally don’t care much (especially since I don’t feel that I owe any special consideration to either one of them).”

    Where he includes gays here, I agree with this view. Basically, I fail utterly to give a shit what kind of “atmosphere” exists among common people in the US toward these two groups (gays and Jews), but I do resent the unfailing insistence among politicians that these two groups are worthy of any special consideration at all.

    “But I do believe that Professor Cohen will eventually go down in history as the most intellectually honest and courageous Russia expert in the US.”

    I can only agree with this conclusion if ever the US media were to become an actual independent media while the editors of US history currently under control the government and the owners of government ever lost that iron grip over what is to be included in written history.

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    Naturally, this has to be included since it’s the most important factor to be considered in judging whether a foreign leader is good or evil. /sarc
     
    In fairness, this is a lefty jewish professor addressing a US sphere mainstream media audience (ie a heavily leftist and as the Saker notes probably disproportionately jewish audience). It's entirely understandable that such people should consider jewish and gay identity issues as amongst their highest priorities. It's just annoying that they are so effective at imposing their priorities upon our entire societies.

    I agree with you about Cohen's expertise on Russia and Putin, but I don't share Saker's warmly congratulatory attitude to his "courage". While there's a degree of courage required to speak out against any elite consensus held for such strongly self-interested reasons by such powerful lobbies as the Russophobic elite consensus in the US sphere, in reality it pales into triviality next to the real personal courage displayed by those who stand up against the anti-"racist" and anti-"anti-Semite" elite consensus in our societies. The latter face real economic consequences (including job loss and effective unemployability), a high potential for actual violence, and in many European countries criminal proceedings. It's all a bit more real than the potential professional disrespect Cohen faces.

    And although I've never heard Cohen on that issue, so this is speculation wide open to rebuttal on my part, I suspect that Cohen would join with his pseudo-liberal fellows in either failing to sufficiently oppose those speechcrime censoring attitudes or actively support them, at any rate the non-violent ones, involving suppressing "racist" and "anti-Semitic" ideas and opinions.

    There are many much more evidently courageous people, and you can find them almost entirely on the patriotic, traditionalist right these days.
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  124. AP says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    I am repeating for the particularly gifted: Kadyrov did not need to come to Kiev personally, so he did not. His name was enough to scare the cowards.
    As to 9/11, to the best of my knowledge most evidence points to Al-Qaida. As Al-Qaida was funded, armed, and trained by the CIA, 9/11 was one of the most “glorious” achievements of the US foreign policy. It is rivaled only by the Iraq war, where the US first exposed itself to the world as a blatant liar (remember WMD story and the vial of something Powell was shaking at the UN? Most of the world still remembers), then spent more than a trillion $, only to hand the victory to Iran and Al-Qaida. Of course, Halliburton also won, but it would have been a lot cheaper for the US to just let Halliburton steal $10 billion directly.

    I am repeating for the particularly gifted: Kadyrov did not need to come to Kiev personally, so he did not

    But before you claimed he did.

    You wrote:

    “Let me remind you that Kadyrov visited Kiev in 2014″

    Your words.

    Were you lying then, or are you lying now?

    Or is it just another example of your well-known cluelessness about Ukraine.

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    Anon from TN
    Well, I misspoke earlier. This does not change anything else I said.
    As far as Ukraine is concerned, I do agree with Rostislav Ischenko, who used to work in Ukrainian foreign ministry. Now he is a a political analyst in Russia. His theory is that those who know that they are good at something are not scared to compete in a broader field, so they call themselves Russians. In contrast, those who deep down know that they are good for nothing are afraid of serious competition, and therefore call themselves specifically Ukrainians and compete on that narrow patch. Naturally, the only frog in a puddle is always the biggest. But only a very dumb frog would be proud of it. As many Russians say now, “thank goodness that Ukrainians are not our brothers: it’s shameful to have brothers like that”. Enjoy your greatness in a tiny puddle!
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  125. @Thorfinnsson
    The Faker, who lives in Florida and has only visited Russia once (Chechnya for some baffling reason), is well known as a massive cuck.

    This is why he's always rambling about "shaitans" and talking about how lovely Mohammedans and Chechens are.

    Actual Russians hate Chechens and other vermin from the North Caucasus, and the most common slogan of Russian nationalists on this topic is, "Stop feeding the Caucasus!"

    And this would be interesting because……?

    Admit that you neither read the piece nor watched the video so that your comment can be put in the proper perspective. This is, after all, a thread discussing the article rather than the author. I’ve made the same kind of comment you just made and have regretted doing so since then, mainly because I do appreciate this venue and wish to show that appreciation.

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  126. @polskijoe
    Amongst people who tend to really distrust, dislike people, where we are called Russian agents, or Russians.
    I have studied lots about Russia, especially since 1990 plus.

    I also came to similar over years as Cohen.
    There is no plan for USSR rebirth, or tanks rolling to Poland and Berlin,
    or even returning to super power status (at least unlikely).

    In 1990 the Russians were in very poor state, and now they have returned to world power status.
    I think its important to have bipolar world. (even multipolar would be better).

    Now I dont love Russians, Im still mixed on Putin, but I think
    Russians and Putin have made some positive changes.
    I can respect that. Average Russian, morals are similar to mine (and the same can be said of most Slavics).

    I agree that multi-polar would be better, ideal, even. There’s really no benefit to the people of Earth in having empires competing for dominance.

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  127. @yurivku
    Got to PC, writing from smartphone is unhandy

    As they say you can’t make everyone happy, for they could have always in their limited view and knowledge of what’s going on behind the scenes could always have done more
     
    Exactly, but I think you know not more that me here in Russia "what's going on behind the scenes".
    And yes, probably there are hidden reasons for his behaviour, but I've written what many (I beleive the majority) of Russians think. Of cource not all, there are some absolute fans of him and absolute enemies, BTW mainly latter are jews for unknown reasons.


    but the fact remains that Putin was the right person at the right time for Russia…
     
    bold assertion - "the fact".
    It's not the fact, - it's your opinion, not more. Yes, It could have been much worse person, but could have been much better. Or you think he's an ideal?

    Nobody denies his achivements, but I mentioned also his (actually ours) losses or mistakes.

    ” Of cource not all, there are some absolute fans of him and absolute enemies, BTW mainly latter are jews for unknown reasons.”

    Is it possible that the jews who dislike him do so because of his failure to assign special consideration for what those jews see as their special rights? The Zionists/neocons seem to be insistent on having a special status for themselves and to have rights above those of any other ethnicity.

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    I've answered to you below in post #143, sorry
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  128. @Beefcake the Mighty
    No one gives a shit what you think.

    True, that. I know that I certainly don’t. ahaha

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  129. @Roger_that,Rabbit
    Slightly off topic, but at 22:40 Cohen says: "He [Putin] needed a consensual history of the country...." I am thinking also of Lincoln's: 'A house divided against itself cannot stand."
    The USA has lost a consensual history of itself. The BLM, Antifa, Postmodernists in Academia curse the USA as the mothership of oppressors, slaveholders, conniving capitalist exploiters, and seek nothing less of the dissolution of any value or norm that holds American society together. Naturally, they having nothing to replace it with, but the utter destruction is good enough.
    No one that I am aware of in the political class here is making any attempt to build such a consensus. Trump needlessly needles and insults people; the Democrats seek the immigrant to build their voter list, and Republicans will sell out to anybody if it preserves their own power.
    How long before we have a weaponized fifth column in the USA such as is now present in Europe?

    “Republicans will sell out to anybody if it preserves their own power.”

    I think it’s worse than that. Republican politicians, most of them anyway, will sell out for a stale bagel even if it removes them from power. They truly are the stupid party. Of course, the democrats are primarily evil and only secondarily stupid.

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  131. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @AP

    I am repeating for the particularly gifted: Kadyrov did not need to come to Kiev personally, so he did not
     
    But before you claimed he did.

    You wrote:

    "Let me remind you that Kadyrov visited Kiev in 2014"

    Your words.

    Were you lying then, or are you lying now?

    Or is it just another example of your well-known cluelessness about Ukraine.

    Anon from TN
    Well, I misspoke earlier. This does not change anything else I said.
    As far as Ukraine is concerned, I do agree with Rostislav Ischenko, who used to work in Ukrainian foreign ministry. Now he is a a political analyst in Russia. His theory is that those who know that they are good at something are not scared to compete in a broader field, so they call themselves Russians. In contrast, those who deep down know that they are good for nothing are afraid of serious competition, and therefore call themselves specifically Ukrainians and compete on that narrow patch. Naturally, the only frog in a puddle is always the biggest. But only a very dumb frog would be proud of it. As many Russians say now, “thank goodness that Ukrainians are not our brothers: it’s shameful to have brothers like that”. Enjoy your greatness in a tiny puddle!

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    Well, surely you know but Ukrainians are not Rossiyany but they are Rusky. If some ultras deny it is another issue.
    , @AP

    Well, I misspoke earlier.
     
    So you were clueless, rather than dishonest?

    This does not change anything else I said.
     
    Yes, your pattern of cluelessness remains intact. Your other stuff is as wrong as that was.

    I do agree with Rostislav Ischenko, who used to work in Ukrainian foreign ministry. Now he is a a political analyst in Russia. His theory is that those who know that they are good at something are not scared to compete in a broader field, so they call themselves Russians.
     
    Like Ukrainian chess champion Anna Muzychuk?

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/other-sports/why-double-chess-champion-anna-muzychuk-boycotted-saudi-arabia-tourney/story-teKAhpYsS1cfRGnlsPRLgL.html
    , @Anatoly Karlin
    Rostislav Ishchenko is an idiot who hasn't got a single prediction on Ukraine correct that I am aware of. He has however been successful at providing flak for Putin's mythical "clever plan," which I suppose is what he is ultimately getting paid for.
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  132. Aedib says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    Well, I misspoke earlier. This does not change anything else I said.
    As far as Ukraine is concerned, I do agree with Rostislav Ischenko, who used to work in Ukrainian foreign ministry. Now he is a a political analyst in Russia. His theory is that those who know that they are good at something are not scared to compete in a broader field, so they call themselves Russians. In contrast, those who deep down know that they are good for nothing are afraid of serious competition, and therefore call themselves specifically Ukrainians and compete on that narrow patch. Naturally, the only frog in a puddle is always the biggest. But only a very dumb frog would be proud of it. As many Russians say now, “thank goodness that Ukrainians are not our brothers: it’s shameful to have brothers like that”. Enjoy your greatness in a tiny puddle!

    Well, surely you know but Ukrainians are not Rossiyany but they are Rusky. If some ultras deny it is another issue.

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    When I grew up in the USSR I thought that Russians, Ukrainians, and Belorussians are three branches of the same people. My grandmother used to say: “we are Russians, but khokhly (Ukrainians), they are Russians, but katsapy (Ukrainian term for Great Russians)”. Now, seeing what Ukrainians did with their country, I am not sure any more. I’d be ashamed to call myself a Ukrainian. I’d much rather call myself a Russian. BTW, Oles Buzina, a Ukrainian journalist murdered in broad daylight in Kiev in 2015 by Ukrainian Nazis (who were never punished and won’t be until the regime in Kiev changes), used to say that when you realize that you are a Russian, your soul rejoices.
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  133. There is no no doubt in y mind that Pres Putin is an astute, well informed intelligent, well read and deeply shrewd leader. I have no doubt that he loves Russia and his goal is to make sure Russia remains a player on the world stage. I think that number 8 is entirely incorrect. You simply do not survive the KGB and end up as Pres of Russia with having navigated effectively the waters of the KGB and and Soviet politics and not be fully inundated with KGB schooling. That said,

    it does not by definition mean that the outcomes cannot be thoroughly positive in navigating the Russian ship of state successfully as a democracy. i had no doubt that Russia would remain a player on the world stage. My only bock after 9/11 dealt with how we and Russia would define terrorism. Because unless were careful we might find ourselves embroiled in the turmoil of Chechnya.

    I am ever impressed by Pres Putin’s ability and strength of will to outmaneuver the US in the Middle East and much to my chagrin, perhaps in Asia, of Russia and China mend fences as in both states the advent of democratic tools — i.e capitalism provide an atmosphere for broader areas of agreement.

    We did ourselves no favors in removing Pres Hussein — that may be a turning point in global history.

    I think Pres Putin’s understanding of Israel is simple, they should be expected to abide by the rules all member states of the UN are expected to abide by. In the case of Israel – even more so as she owes her existence to the UN.

    I also think think Pres Putin is sincerely befuddled and concerned about the implications of our Russian Manchurian candidate obsession.

    Russia remains one of the regions, I hope to see before I die.

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  134. @peterAUS

    Actual Russians hate Chechens and other vermin from the North Caucasus, and the most common slogan of Russian nationalists on this topic is, “Stop feeding the Caucasus!”
     
    I know.

    It's just sort of funny reading his

    rambling about “shaitans” and talking about how lovely Mohammedans and Chechens are.
     
    Easy from Florida I guess.

    He'd probably change his angle after living for a year in Caucus.
    Not visiting...living there.

    He is Putin fanboy. They all believe that appeasement will work.
    Or....more practical/cynical among them simply care that it works while they are around.
    10, 20 years from now is not their concern.

    PeterAUS;

    It is obvious you do not like Putin.

    I suspect you like nobody except Ante Pavelic.

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  135. Art says:

    And now to the homosexuals and Jews.

    Jews and homosexuals. Why are they lumped together? What do they share in common? The answer is they both feel a profound separation from the rest of humanity. Because both, feel so different, so distant, and so separated, they cannot psychologically connect to the rest of humanity.

    With Jews, the separation from humanity is self-imposed – they thrive on their separation – their arrogance is fed by being distant from the rest of us. Jews cannot connect to us, because they cannot love us. You can only love, with whom you can connect and bond together in a shared future. Because of humanity’s reasonable ongoing natural negative reaction to their super tribalness, Jews feel justified in being dishonest with humanity. Super “us against them” tribalness engenders trouble and separation. The negatives feed each other in cycle of hate. The human psyche will not allow someone to love whom he abuses. Love fosters the future, abuse diminishes it. For a Jew to remain a true Jew he must psychologically separate himself from humanity. The Jew is forever trapped in a – I win – you lose – I am better then you – hate inducing unloving mindset.

    Homosexual separation from humanity is more complicated, but easier to fix. Because sex identity is so deeply imbedded in our psyche, homosexuals profoundly feel different from the rest of humanity, and humanity feels the same about them. The separation between homosexuals and the rest of humanity need not go on forever. Unlike Jews – homosexuals do no actual harm to the rest of humanity – therefor the cultural separation can diminish and disappear. This is happening.

    Think Peace — Art

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  136. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @Aedib
    Well, surely you know but Ukrainians are not Rossiyany but they are Rusky. If some ultras deny it is another issue.

    Anon from TN
    When I grew up in the USSR I thought that Russians, Ukrainians, and Belorussians are three branches of the same people. My grandmother used to say: “we are Russians, but khokhly (Ukrainians), they are Russians, but katsapy (Ukrainian term for Great Russians)”. Now, seeing what Ukrainians did with their country, I am not sure any more. I’d be ashamed to call myself a Ukrainian. I’d much rather call myself a Russian. BTW, Oles Buzina, a Ukrainian journalist murdered in broad daylight in Kiev in 2015 by Ukrainian Nazis (who were never punished and won’t be until the regime in Kiev changes), used to say that when you realize that you are a Russian, your soul rejoices.

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  137. @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    I am repeating for the particularly gifted: Kadyrov did not need to come to Kiev personally, so he did not. His name was enough to scare the cowards.
    As to 9/11, to the best of my knowledge most evidence points to Al-Qaida. As Al-Qaida was funded, armed, and trained by the CIA, 9/11 was one of the most “glorious” achievements of the US foreign policy. It is rivaled only by the Iraq war, where the US first exposed itself to the world as a blatant liar (remember WMD story and the vial of something Powell was shaking at the UN? Most of the world still remembers), then spent more than a trillion $, only to hand the victory to Iran and Al-Qaida. Of course, Halliburton also won, but it would have been a lot cheaper for the US to just let Halliburton steal $10 billion directly.

    OK, but now you’ll have to explain how al Qaida was able to bypass security and install and wire precision explosives and detonators, how they could organise those convenient “security” drills such as Vigilant Warrior to confound Norad, destroy ATC voice recordings, remove daytime live broadcast content from the evening broadcast news, organise the prompt destruction of evidence from the buildings and ship it overseas as scrap under intense security and fix the “investigation” using Phillip Zelicow. Go on, give it a try.

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  138. AP says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    Well, I misspoke earlier. This does not change anything else I said.
    As far as Ukraine is concerned, I do agree with Rostislav Ischenko, who used to work in Ukrainian foreign ministry. Now he is a a political analyst in Russia. His theory is that those who know that they are good at something are not scared to compete in a broader field, so they call themselves Russians. In contrast, those who deep down know that they are good for nothing are afraid of serious competition, and therefore call themselves specifically Ukrainians and compete on that narrow patch. Naturally, the only frog in a puddle is always the biggest. But only a very dumb frog would be proud of it. As many Russians say now, “thank goodness that Ukrainians are not our brothers: it’s shameful to have brothers like that”. Enjoy your greatness in a tiny puddle!

    Well, I misspoke earlier.

    So you were clueless, rather than dishonest?

    This does not change anything else I said.

    Yes, your pattern of cluelessness remains intact. Your other stuff is as wrong as that was.

    I do agree with Rostislav Ischenko, who used to work in Ukrainian foreign ministry. Now he is a a political analyst in Russia. His theory is that those who know that they are good at something are not scared to compete in a broader field, so they call themselves Russians.

    Like Ukrainian chess champion Anna Muzychuk?

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/other-sports/why-double-chess-champion-anna-muzychuk-boycotted-saudi-arabia-tourney/story-teKAhpYsS1cfRGnlsPRLgL.html

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  139. Erebus says:
    @yurivku
    So sorry, hope i've answered. But actually I see no ideal candidate. And it's partly because Putin didnot allow real candidates to appear

    But actually I see no ideal candidate. And it’s partly because Putin didnot allow real candidates to appear

    A damning claim. Perhaps you could elucidate how Putin prevented “real candidates” from appearing.

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    A damning claim. Perhaps you could elucidate how Putin prevented “real candidates” from appearing.
     
    As you wish. Fist of all please note that I'm not from Navalnuy's team and my claims are from opposite side. But I've described it in my very first post in this thread.

    When I say "putin" I mean just a system he've built, not him personally. And yes this system will reject everyone not from its clan.
    The basic platform for political start is a Edinaya Rossia party (Единая Россия) which totally degraded and being called as a party of cheaters and thievs (Партия жуликов и воров) , this name was invented by Navalnuy, but it's become widely spread for it's true.

    If someone tries to get in politics from other directions - he'll encounter the resistance from local authorites of different kinds and can even get some criminal problems.
    If nevertheless you got through this (eg Navalnuy with the financial and other help from US and its allies) you will see the main calibers in action like media and courts. Again remember Navalnuy, Udaltsov and others.

    Even registered candidate Grudinin currenly being under continuos attacks in MSM, dirty lies, defamations we can see every day on TV. But those Sobchak, Jirinovski and Co are on screen almost every day and no single bad word you'll hear about them.
    Why? Can you guess?
    They are appointed to make a contrast to a good candidate.

    Putin never took part in debates with other candidates. Why? I think it's arrogance, but main thing that he's not ready to answer for really hot questions. He used to answer on prepared in advance stupid Qs like to bring an order on some territory or give some girl a puppy.

    And I'll recall - I do support Putin in international affairs almost completely not to say that IMHO it's time to react more strong on stupid behavior of US authorities in Syria, Ukraine and more ...
    Hopefully I've answered your question.
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  140. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Thorfinnsson
    The Faker, who lives in Florida and has only visited Russia once (Chechnya for some baffling reason), is well known as a massive cuck.

    This is why he's always rambling about "shaitans" and talking about how lovely Mohammedans and Chechens are.

    Actual Russians hate Chechens and other vermin from the North Caucasus, and the most common slogan of Russian nationalists on this topic is, "Stop feeding the Caucasus!"

    This is why he’s always rambling about “shaitans” and talking about how lovely Mohammedans and Chechens are.

    Who gives a shit what you godless polytheist degenerates think of us “Mohammedans,” or for that matter the effing Chechens.

    But, as far as the mf-western “shaitans” are concerned, history provides enough proof of that, Ahole.

    Try learning from that.

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  141. yurivku says:
    @Erebus

    But actually I see no ideal candidate. And it’s partly because Putin didnot allow real candidates to appear
     
    A damning claim. Perhaps you could elucidate how Putin prevented "real candidates" from appearing.

    A damning claim. Perhaps you could elucidate how Putin prevented “real candidates” from appearing.

    As you wish. Fist of all please note that I’m not from Navalnuy’s team and my claims are from opposite side. But I’ve described it in my very first post in this thread.

    When I say “putin” I mean just a system he’ve built, not him personally. And yes this system will reject everyone not from its clan.
    The basic platform for political start is a Edinaya Rossia party (Единая Россия) which totally degraded and being called as a party of cheaters and thievs (Партия жуликов и воров) , this name was invented by Navalnuy, but it’s become widely spread for it’s true.

    If someone tries to get in politics from other directions – he’ll encounter the resistance from local authorites of different kinds and can even get some criminal problems.
    If nevertheless you got through this (eg Navalnuy with the financial and other help from US and its allies) you will see the main calibers in action like media and courts. Again remember Navalnuy, Udaltsov and others.

    Even registered candidate Grudinin currenly being under continuos attacks in MSM, dirty lies, defamations we can see every day on TV. But those Sobchak, Jirinovski and Co are on screen almost every day and no single bad word you’ll hear about them.
    Why? Can you guess?
    They are appointed to make a contrast to a good candidate.

    Putin never took part in debates with other candidates. Why? I think it’s arrogance, but main thing that he’s not ready to answer for really hot questions. He used to answer on prepared in advance stupid Qs like to bring an order on some territory or give some girl a puppy.

    And I’ll recall – I do support Putin in international affairs almost completely not to say that IMHO it’s time to react more strong on stupid behavior of US authorities in Syria, Ukraine and more …
    Hopefully I’ve answered your question.

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    What is happening to Medvedev?
    , @peterAUS

    Putin never took part in debates with other candidates. Why? I think it’s arrogance, but main thing that he’s not ready to answer for really hot questions. He used to answer on prepared in advance stupid Qs like to bring an order on some territory or give some girl a puppy.
     
    Informative and interesting.
    Keep them coming.
    , @Randal

    Putin never took part in debates with other candidates. Why? I think it’s arrogance, but main thing that he’s not ready to answer for really hot questions. He used to answer on prepared in advance stupid Qs like to bring an order on some territory or give some girl a puppy.
     
    Speculating from a distance based upon pretty universal political basics, surely the obvious reason why Putin avoids facing debates and hard questions is simply that he doesn't need to do so.

    When you have solid majority support and are going to win easily, only a fool would needlessly give opponents the kind of opportunities a debate provides to score points, even if only by getting lucky, and only a fool would needlessly answer hard questions, the responses to which are inevitably going to alienate some voters, when instead he can evade those questions and get voters from both sides of the issue to vote for him.

    If you are going to win easily and the political cost of evading debates or hard questions isn't going to bring the issue into doubt, don't engage in debates or answer hard questions. This is politics 101, really.
    , @Erebus

    Even registered candidate Grudinin currenly being under continuos attacks in MSM, dirty lies, defamations we can see every day on TV.
     
    Of course, one need look no further than Trump to see that the abuse heaped on "outsiders" trying to break into the political classes is not unique to Russia. That the political class protects its own is pretty much universal. That they're in cahoots with media isn't unique either.

    That Russia went down the same road may be disappointing, but given that the vulnerability of a truly open system to foreign based mischief is simply unacceptable in a super-power, especially at a geo-political tipping point, what choice is there? The trouble, quite simply, is that a super-power's remit extends beyond its borders.

    I wouldn't give the planet decent odds of surviving if Russia's foreign policy was governed by its mad dog Generals, and executed by its version of Tillerson/Haley. There'd be the mother of all food fights within days. The world is deeply indebted to the Russian people's indulgence in allowing their demagogues, ambitious posers, and people 3-parts mad to be sidelined politically until things stabilize.
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  142. tac says:
    @Wally
    The better-at-military matters-than historical-facts Saker said:
    "And both the Nazis and the Soviets inflicted untold horrors upon the many peoples of the Soviet Union and beyond."

    Except the 'Nazis' did not do what is alleged and there is no proof that they did. Simple as that.

    College freshman-like Cyrano said:
    "Nazi’s mistreated minorities because of the fact that they were of different ethnicity, and that treatment was reserved for them only, and not for the Germans."

    Except that the Nazis did no such thing. That unsupportable claim merely an indication of his Zionist indoctrination which is easily debunked.
    ex:
    The Myth of a Nazi Extermination of Homosexuals by Jack Wikoff http://www.cwporter.com/homo.htm
    Gypsies and Homosexuals in the Camps http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1894
    homosexuals - Yad Vashem ...http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1930

    The 'minorities, homosexuals & gypsies' canard is merely an attempt by Jews to buy votes for their laughable and impossible '6M & gas chambers'.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

    After the last disturbing video you posted entitled (paraphrasing) “we know about your Rabbis” it seems what you are referring to is know in the traditional Jewish circles as “Metzitzah B’peh”, a rather despicable and inhumane tradition, as shown here:

    It is my understanding that this behavior, although indefensible, is only practiced within a small sect of Hasidic Jews. Can you provide with some documentation which elaborates on this subject matter?

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  143. yurivku says:
    @Cyrano
    I urge you to demand from him that he changes his religion to Catholicism too. That way he will not only make benefit for the glorious nation of Ukraine, but he will also comply with the higher civilizational standards that the people of the extremely westernized and advanced country of Ukraine are accustomed to. When will those savages from the east ever learn?

    I’m trying not to talk to UA men, for it’s useless, and not pleasant like eating a shit.
    They are pretending to be “Western”, but actually most of them are just bastards who betrayed theirs very motherland.

    All these shouts are absolutely indefferent to me.
    So thanx, but don’t worry -)

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    Anon from TN
    Yea, talking to Ukie trolls is like talking to an answering machine, or like having a heart-to-heart conversation with a lamppost. However, even they sometimes make sense. For example, your ideas are often reasonable, but people would treat them more seriously if you improve your English. Look at “AP” here: he/she/it writes incredible BS, but in decent English, so people read it. Some might even believe his/her/its ravings, poor souls.
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  144. yurivku says:

    There are a lot articles here at UNZ on this subject

    http://www.unz.com/article/its-time-to-drop-the-jew-taboo/

    the good inside description is here

    https://russia-insider.com/en/never-ever-listen-what-american-jews-have-say-about-russia/ri22480

    on Russian jews

    http://www.unz.com/article/the-literatis-scourge-of-putin-and-trump/?highlight=masha

    So I have a little to add, but despite they actually have some special treatment in our society, and get crying just if somebody say something without admiration about one of them, despite being overpresenting in all important fields of our life – they always trying to destroy the very basis they are living on. Probably it’s because Russia and her people will not obey the US/Israel rules.

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  145. yurivku says:
    @Twodees Partain
    " Of cource not all, there are some absolute fans of him and absolute enemies, BTW mainly latter are jews for unknown reasons."

    Is it possible that the jews who dislike him do so because of his failure to assign special consideration for what those jews see as their special rights? The Zionists/neocons seem to be insistent on having a special status for themselves and to have rights above those of any other ethnicity.

    I’ve answered to you below in post #143, sorry

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    I understand. That's all right.
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  146. https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/1658848/geloofwaardigheid-zijlstra-in-het-geding

    Dutch minister of Foreign Affairs admits he lied about Putin, he did not hear Putin say he wanted to incorporate Ukraine, White Russia and the Baltic states, someone else did.
    In order to protect this someone else, he said he personally heard Putin say it.

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  147. @yurivku

    A damning claim. Perhaps you could elucidate how Putin prevented “real candidates” from appearing.
     
    As you wish. Fist of all please note that I'm not from Navalnuy's team and my claims are from opposite side. But I've described it in my very first post in this thread.

    When I say "putin" I mean just a system he've built, not him personally. And yes this system will reject everyone not from its clan.
    The basic platform for political start is a Edinaya Rossia party (Единая Россия) which totally degraded and being called as a party of cheaters and thievs (Партия жуликов и воров) , this name was invented by Navalnuy, but it's become widely spread for it's true.

    If someone tries to get in politics from other directions - he'll encounter the resistance from local authorites of different kinds and can even get some criminal problems.
    If nevertheless you got through this (eg Navalnuy with the financial and other help from US and its allies) you will see the main calibers in action like media and courts. Again remember Navalnuy, Udaltsov and others.

    Even registered candidate Grudinin currenly being under continuos attacks in MSM, dirty lies, defamations we can see every day on TV. But those Sobchak, Jirinovski and Co are on screen almost every day and no single bad word you'll hear about them.
    Why? Can you guess?
    They are appointed to make a contrast to a good candidate.

    Putin never took part in debates with other candidates. Why? I think it's arrogance, but main thing that he's not ready to answer for really hot questions. He used to answer on prepared in advance stupid Qs like to bring an order on some territory or give some girl a puppy.

    And I'll recall - I do support Putin in international affairs almost completely not to say that IMHO it's time to react more strong on stupid behavior of US authorities in Syria, Ukraine and more ...
    Hopefully I've answered your question.

    What is happening to Medvedev?

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  148. yurivku says:

    What is happening to Medvedev?

    Nothing, but he is still useless

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    Was Medvedev responsible for Russia abstaining from Security Council vote on attacking Libya? Worse than useless!
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  149. Cohen is willfully naïve and this article is just more of Saker’s bloviation. Putin is a thug, to be charitable, who has managed to worm his way into the top slot in a rapidly failing state.

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    And you are a moron on the upper scale. Putin is a thug! Maybe yes, or maybe no.
    But it is irrelevant. As is irrelevant that you are a moron. The only relevant thing is what Putin is doing.
    And as I can see it so far he is doing right for his country
    , @Twodees Partain
    Nonsense. The very definition of a thug among political figures is Obama. Putin has been the same calm person in several high offices in Russia through 3 thuggish American presidencies.

    Our country, the US, is the rapidly failing state. How can you manage to be wrong on so much in such a short post? You could do a websearch for Vladimir Putin, and read the factual entries. It might be a pleasant change from your usual diet of CNN and MSNBC.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Putin’s Governor of California?
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  150. I read the Saker’s views often.

    One thing I believe most important is an accurate choice of words, considering both the connotation and the denotation. I find it counter productive when Saker speaks of “the crazies”, referring to the Neo-Cons or the military industrial complex. These are people who sell death to line their pockets, and “the crazies” is definitely not an apt term. It makes a joke out of what they are doing. I wish that he would stop that.

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    I find it counter productive when Saker speaks of “the crazies”, referring to the Neo-Cons or the military industrial complex. These are people who sell death to line their pockets, and “the crazies” is definitely not an apt term. It makes a joke out of what they are doing. I wish that he would stop that.
     
    Richard Miller,

    An excellent point – the neocons are not “crazy” - they are not unstable - they know precisely what they are doing.

    To give them a status of “crazy” – diminishes their just due. They are due the label of “evil.” Instigating wars is evil.

    Think Peace --- Art
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  151. @Quartermaster
    Cohen is willfully naïve and this article is just more of Saker's bloviation. Putin is a thug, to be charitable, who has managed to worm his way into the top slot in a rapidly failing state.

    And you are a moron on the upper scale. Putin is a thug! Maybe yes, or maybe no.
    But it is irrelevant. As is irrelevant that you are a moron. The only relevant thing is what Putin is doing.
    And as I can see it so far he is doing right for his country

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  152. RobinG says:
    @yurivku

    What is happening to Medvedev?
     
    Nothing, but he is still useless

    Was Medvedev responsible for Russia abstaining from Security Council vote on attacking Libya? Worse than useless!

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    Well yes, but it's you, Western people are to blame Aren't you?
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  153. yurivku says:
    @RobinG
    Was Medvedev responsible for Russia abstaining from Security Council vote on attacking Libya? Worse than useless!

    Well yes, but it’s you, Western people are to blame Aren’t you?

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    Yes, if by "Western people" you mean Queen Killary's cabal, Bernard-Henri Lévy (the Jew who goaded France to attack Libya), etc. Most of the rest of us are just dupes and pawns.
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  154. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @yurivku
    I'm trying not to talk to UA men, for it's useless, and not pleasant like eating a shit.
    They are pretending to be "Western", but actually most of them are just bastards who betrayed theirs very motherland.

    All these shouts are absolutely indefferent to me.
    So thanx, but don't worry -)

    Anon from TN
    Yea, talking to Ukie trolls is like talking to an answering machine, or like having a heart-to-heart conversation with a lamppost. However, even they sometimes make sense. For example, your ideas are often reasonable, but people would treat them more seriously if you improve your English. Look at “AP” here: he/she/it writes incredible BS, but in decent English, so people read it. Some might even believe his/her/its ravings, poor souls.

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    You can stop reading me right now, no problem at all. And I do not ask your advices. But thank you.
    , @AP

    Look at “AP” here: he/she/it writes incredible BS
     
    No, that would be you. You were already caught here, with your fairy tale about Kadyrov coming to Kiev.

    Here's a response to earlier BS by you:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/vciom-predictions-market/#comment-2182046
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  155. yurivku says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    Yea, talking to Ukie trolls is like talking to an answering machine, or like having a heart-to-heart conversation with a lamppost. However, even they sometimes make sense. For example, your ideas are often reasonable, but people would treat them more seriously if you improve your English. Look at “AP” here: he/she/it writes incredible BS, but in decent English, so people read it. Some might even believe his/her/its ravings, poor souls.

    You can stop reading me right now, no problem at all. And I do not ask your advices. But thank you.

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  156. peterAUS says:
    @yurivku

    A damning claim. Perhaps you could elucidate how Putin prevented “real candidates” from appearing.
     
    As you wish. Fist of all please note that I'm not from Navalnuy's team and my claims are from opposite side. But I've described it in my very first post in this thread.

    When I say "putin" I mean just a system he've built, not him personally. And yes this system will reject everyone not from its clan.
    The basic platform for political start is a Edinaya Rossia party (Единая Россия) which totally degraded and being called as a party of cheaters and thievs (Партия жуликов и воров) , this name was invented by Navalnuy, but it's become widely spread for it's true.

    If someone tries to get in politics from other directions - he'll encounter the resistance from local authorites of different kinds and can even get some criminal problems.
    If nevertheless you got through this (eg Navalnuy with the financial and other help from US and its allies) you will see the main calibers in action like media and courts. Again remember Navalnuy, Udaltsov and others.

    Even registered candidate Grudinin currenly being under continuos attacks in MSM, dirty lies, defamations we can see every day on TV. But those Sobchak, Jirinovski and Co are on screen almost every day and no single bad word you'll hear about them.
    Why? Can you guess?
    They are appointed to make a contrast to a good candidate.

    Putin never took part in debates with other candidates. Why? I think it's arrogance, but main thing that he's not ready to answer for really hot questions. He used to answer on prepared in advance stupid Qs like to bring an order on some territory or give some girl a puppy.

    And I'll recall - I do support Putin in international affairs almost completely not to say that IMHO it's time to react more strong on stupid behavior of US authorities in Syria, Ukraine and more ...
    Hopefully I've answered your question.

    Putin never took part in debates with other candidates. Why? I think it’s arrogance, but main thing that he’s not ready to answer for really hot questions. He used to answer on prepared in advance stupid Qs like to bring an order on some territory or give some girl a puppy.

    Informative and interesting.
    Keep them coming.

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  157. RobinG says:
    @yurivku
    Well yes, but it's you, Western people are to blame Aren't you?

    Yes, if by “Western people” you mean Queen Killary’s cabal, Bernard-Henri Lévy (the Jew who goaded France to attack Libya), etc. Most of the rest of us are just dupes and pawns.

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    All these guys are yours anyway. Our stupid medvedev just weak guy who did not dare to resist. But probably it was too early to go to conflict with joint west.
    Hope my English is understandable.
    , @yurivku

    Yes, if by “Western people” you mean Queen Killary’s cabal, Bernard-Henri Lévy (the Jew who goaded France to attack Libya), etc. Most of the rest of us are just dupes and pawns.
     
    It's just fine. Let's use term somebody (SB) in text below.
    SB selects, approves, elects, feeds them (taxes...). They ruin Libya (there are alot in the past, but let's start from here), then ruin whole ME, got America and Europe filled with refugees. SB still supports them, elected one more embicile who hired a dozen of bastards in his administration.

    All this gang rules SB (with the whole world ) to nowhere. What this Joe Sixpack will say seeing nukes coming down to his garden?
    Sorry, we are just "dupes and pawns"?
    Yes, you have to be dupes doing nothing to change things.
    Of course I understand how difficult for Joe Sixpack to move his ass into dangerous world messing around his garden, but I'm afraid there is no other way.
    Nothing personal. Sorry.
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  158. Randal says:
    @yurivku

    A damning claim. Perhaps you could elucidate how Putin prevented “real candidates” from appearing.
     
    As you wish. Fist of all please note that I'm not from Navalnuy's team and my claims are from opposite side. But I've described it in my very first post in this thread.

    When I say "putin" I mean just a system he've built, not him personally. And yes this system will reject everyone not from its clan.
    The basic platform for political start is a Edinaya Rossia party (Единая Россия) which totally degraded and being called as a party of cheaters and thievs (Партия жуликов и воров) , this name was invented by Navalnuy, but it's become widely spread for it's true.

    If someone tries to get in politics from other directions - he'll encounter the resistance from local authorites of different kinds and can even get some criminal problems.
    If nevertheless you got through this (eg Navalnuy with the financial and other help from US and its allies) you will see the main calibers in action like media and courts. Again remember Navalnuy, Udaltsov and others.

    Even registered candidate Grudinin currenly being under continuos attacks in MSM, dirty lies, defamations we can see every day on TV. But those Sobchak, Jirinovski and Co are on screen almost every day and no single bad word you'll hear about them.
    Why? Can you guess?
    They are appointed to make a contrast to a good candidate.

    Putin never took part in debates with other candidates. Why? I think it's arrogance, but main thing that he's not ready to answer for really hot questions. He used to answer on prepared in advance stupid Qs like to bring an order on some territory or give some girl a puppy.

    And I'll recall - I do support Putin in international affairs almost completely not to say that IMHO it's time to react more strong on stupid behavior of US authorities in Syria, Ukraine and more ...
    Hopefully I've answered your question.

    Putin never took part in debates with other candidates. Why? I think it’s arrogance, but main thing that he’s not ready to answer for really hot questions. He used to answer on prepared in advance stupid Qs like to bring an order on some territory or give some girl a puppy.

    Speculating from a distance based upon pretty universal political basics, surely the obvious reason why Putin avoids facing debates and hard questions is simply that he doesn’t need to do so.

    When you have solid majority support and are going to win easily, only a fool would needlessly give opponents the kind of opportunities a debate provides to score points, even if only by getting lucky, and only a fool would needlessly answer hard questions, the responses to which are inevitably going to alienate some voters, when instead he can evade those questions and get voters from both sides of the issue to vote for him.

    If you are going to win easily and the political cost of evading debates or hard questions isn’t going to bring the issue into doubt, don’t engage in debates or answer hard questions. This is politics 101, really.

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    Why Putin is avoiding debates.
    Privatization of state assets was done in Russia in accordance with American professors plan. We can characterize this act as a straight forward robbery.
    Jewish networks were bringing trunk-loads of cash into Russia. So they were the winners.
    Also the former communists with connections were robbing also. Putin was one of them.
    So that is why he does want to engage in discussions,
    But he is doing good job now so who cares.
    If Jews would give back all money they stole, I am certain Putin would give back the money also.
    But Jews should give back the money first.
    , @RobinG
    Exactly. This is why the 2-party tyranny won't let Libertarian, Green, or any other candidates participate in the debates.
    , @peterAUS

    ... only a fool would needlessly answer hard questions...
     
    Ah...well...and I always thought that was the sign of proper leadership.

    People in power answering hard questions by people they rule over. "Need" criteria defined by "below"...not "above".

    I guess that brings back the "Fuehrer/Great Leader" principle in politics.
    Or Kings of old. Emperors even.

    And, well, why not everywhere where a person in power has life and death decision making ability over people "below"?
    We can start with doctors.

    And, I definitely could've used that with my subordinates once upon a time:
    Not that I don't remember hating that attitude with my superiors. Especially those bureaucrats out of howitzer range.

    Informative.
    , @yurivku

    Speculating from a distance based upon pretty universal political basics, surely the obvious reason why Putin avoids facing debates and hard questions is simply that he doesn’t need to do so.
     
    Well, I agree. He's absolutely sure that all the mechanics they use are enough to win. And debates could bring some unmeasured risks. The loss of some votes due to such politics considered him (and it's right) to be insignificant.
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  159. @Michael Kenny
    Putin certainly changed sides about the time he returned to the presidency in 2012. Prior to that he had been slowly steering Russia back to its normal place as a European great power and, thereby, drawing closer to the EU. Suddenly, he became a US neocon stooge and allowed himself to be used as a “useful idiot” in their campaign to destroy the EU. That blunder led him to paint himself into the corner he is now in in Ukraine and that blunder, in turn, led him to wade into the Syrian civil war, thereby painting himself into another corner. What emerges is a man with little or no political savvy who simply lurches from blunder to blunder, with each blunder an attempt to overcome the consequences of the previous blunder. Professor Cohen also repeats a classic neocon propaganda line, namely, that Russians do not see themselves as Europeans. As far as I can tell, that propaganda line was invented by Daniel Pipes and was intended, one supposes, to drive a wedge between Russia and the rest of Europe, in particular the EU. I can find no evidence (to borrow a phrase!) that Russians regard themselves, or have ever regarded themselves, as anything but European and Professor Cohen provides no evidence in support of his claim, although he is quite happy to dismiss criticisms of Putin by arguing that there is no evidence to support them. The classic technique of the pro-Putin camp: when it favours Putin, no evidence is required; when it doesn’t suit him, proof, almost to courtroom standards, has to be provided. Professor Cohen has once again lived up to his reputation as a pro-Putin propagandist and his remarks will be judged accordingly.
    I was amused by the author’s claim that Putin “wants a new, multi-polar, international order of sovereign countries”. He could usefully prove his bona fides in that regard by respecting Ukrainian sovereignty and ceasing to finance anti-EU political parties (the latest, apparently, being the Lega Nord in Italy), thereby violating the sovereignty of the countries in which they operate. Indeed, if he hadn’t started violating the sovereignty of other European countries, there wouldn’t be a dispute with him in the first place! That does tend to support the author's view that Putin has been double-dealing from the start, which, in its turn, completely demolishes Professor Cohen's "nice but misunderstood Mr Putin" thesis.

    Spot on, except that I would date the start of Putin’s turnaround to February 2004 when the security agencies took over the government by presenting anti-corruption cases against all the major figures. But even then, 2012 was a significant boost to that change.

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  160. yurivku says:
    @RobinG
    Yes, if by "Western people" you mean Queen Killary's cabal, Bernard-Henri Lévy (the Jew who goaded France to attack Libya), etc. Most of the rest of us are just dupes and pawns.

    All these guys are yours anyway. Our stupid medvedev just weak guy who did not dare to resist. But probably it was too early to go to conflict with joint west.
    Hope my English is understandable.

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    Your English is perfectly adequate. Your short sentences are more understandable than the showy ramblings of some of our supercilious native speakers. Those who criticize you probably have other motives.
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  161. Randal says:
    @Twodees Partain
    "Jews under Putin in Russia are better off than they had ever been in Russian history."

    Naturally, this has to be included since it's the most important factor to be considered in judging whether a foreign leader is good or evil. /sarc
    Not to reject what the Professor said in his speech, but as a comment on his audience. I'd agree that he is brave to give such a speech, especially to such an audience.

    The article lays out a lot that I don't really know about Putin, but it does fit with what I've read in the past 8 or so years, which is the basis for my total rejection of the negative MSM memes on the subject of Putin.

    "If in the West, the treatment of these two minorities is The One And Only Most Important Topic In The Universe – fine. I personally don’t care much (especially since I don’t feel that I owe any special consideration to either one of them)."


    Where he includes gays here, I agree with this view. Basically, I fail utterly to give a shit what kind of "atmosphere" exists among common people in the US toward these two groups (gays and Jews), but I do resent the unfailing insistence among politicians that these two groups are worthy of any special consideration at all.

    "But I do believe that Professor Cohen will eventually go down in history as the most intellectually honest and courageous Russia expert in the US."

    I can only agree with this conclusion if ever the US media were to become an actual independent media while the editors of US history currently under control the government and the owners of government ever lost that iron grip over what is to be included in written history.

    Naturally, this has to be included since it’s the most important factor to be considered in judging whether a foreign leader is good or evil. /sarc

    In fairness, this is a lefty jewish professor addressing a US sphere mainstream media audience (ie a heavily leftist and as the Saker notes probably disproportionately jewish audience). It’s entirely understandable that such people should consider jewish and gay identity issues as amongst their highest priorities. It’s just annoying that they are so effective at imposing their priorities upon our entire societies.

    I agree with you about Cohen’s expertise on Russia and Putin, but I don’t share Saker’s warmly congratulatory attitude to his “courage”. While there’s a degree of courage required to speak out against any elite consensus held for such strongly self-interested reasons by such powerful lobbies as the Russophobic elite consensus in the US sphere, in reality it pales into triviality next to the real personal courage displayed by those who stand up against the anti-”racist” and anti-”anti-Semite” elite consensus in our societies. The latter face real economic consequences (including job loss and effective unemployability), a high potential for actual violence, and in many European countries criminal proceedings. It’s all a bit more real than the potential professional disrespect Cohen faces.

    And although I’ve never heard Cohen on that issue, so this is speculation wide open to rebuttal on my part, I suspect that Cohen would join with his pseudo-liberal fellows in either failing to sufficiently oppose those speechcrime censoring attitudes or actively support them, at any rate the non-violent ones, involving suppressing “racist” and “anti-Semitic” ideas and opinions.

    There are many much more evidently courageous people, and you can find them almost entirely on the patriotic, traditionalist right these days.

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    It does take courage to stand up before one's own ethnic allies and give a speech that they are very likely to hold against you from that point on. That's enough to qualify as courageous. He doesn't have to go on from that little venue to speaking on TV to prove that he has courage.

    That's just inviting influential people to crack down on you. That may be courageous but it's also foolish.
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  162. @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    Well, I misspoke earlier. This does not change anything else I said.
    As far as Ukraine is concerned, I do agree with Rostislav Ischenko, who used to work in Ukrainian foreign ministry. Now he is a a political analyst in Russia. His theory is that those who know that they are good at something are not scared to compete in a broader field, so they call themselves Russians. In contrast, those who deep down know that they are good for nothing are afraid of serious competition, and therefore call themselves specifically Ukrainians and compete on that narrow patch. Naturally, the only frog in a puddle is always the biggest. But only a very dumb frog would be proud of it. As many Russians say now, “thank goodness that Ukrainians are not our brothers: it’s shameful to have brothers like that”. Enjoy your greatness in a tiny puddle!

    Rostislav Ishchenko is an idiot who hasn’t got a single prediction on Ukraine correct that I am aware of. He has however been successful at providing flak for Putin’s mythical “clever plan,” which I suppose is what he is ultimately getting paid for.

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    Anon from TN
    You are free to believe whatever you want. In my experience, if the predictions of Rostislav Ischenko differ from those of any Ukie political analyst from Kiev, 99 times out of a 100 Ischenko is right and Ukies are wrong.
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  163. @Randal

    Putin never took part in debates with other candidates. Why? I think it’s arrogance, but main thing that he’s not ready to answer for really hot questions. He used to answer on prepared in advance stupid Qs like to bring an order on some territory or give some girl a puppy.
     
    Speculating from a distance based upon pretty universal political basics, surely the obvious reason why Putin avoids facing debates and hard questions is simply that he doesn't need to do so.

    When you have solid majority support and are going to win easily, only a fool would needlessly give opponents the kind of opportunities a debate provides to score points, even if only by getting lucky, and only a fool would needlessly answer hard questions, the responses to which are inevitably going to alienate some voters, when instead he can evade those questions and get voters from both sides of the issue to vote for him.

    If you are going to win easily and the political cost of evading debates or hard questions isn't going to bring the issue into doubt, don't engage in debates or answer hard questions. This is politics 101, really.

    Why Putin is avoiding debates.
    Privatization of state assets was done in Russia in accordance with American professors plan. We can characterize this act as a straight forward robbery.
    Jewish networks were bringing trunk-loads of cash into Russia. So they were the winners.
    Also the former communists with connections were robbing also. Putin was one of them.
    So that is why he does want to engage in discussions,
    But he is doing good job now so who cares.
    If Jews would give back all money they stole, I am certain Putin would give back the money also.
    But Jews should give back the money first.

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  164. RobinG says:
    @Randal

    Putin never took part in debates with other candidates. Why? I think it’s arrogance, but main thing that he’s not ready to answer for really hot questions. He used to answer on prepared in advance stupid Qs like to bring an order on some territory or give some girl a puppy.
     
    Speculating from a distance based upon pretty universal political basics, surely the obvious reason why Putin avoids facing debates and hard questions is simply that he doesn't need to do so.

    When you have solid majority support and are going to win easily, only a fool would needlessly give opponents the kind of opportunities a debate provides to score points, even if only by getting lucky, and only a fool would needlessly answer hard questions, the responses to which are inevitably going to alienate some voters, when instead he can evade those questions and get voters from both sides of the issue to vote for him.

    If you are going to win easily and the political cost of evading debates or hard questions isn't going to bring the issue into doubt, don't engage in debates or answer hard questions. This is politics 101, really.

    Exactly. This is why the 2-party tyranny won’t let Libertarian, Green, or any other candidates participate in the debates.

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    Of course. Why should they? It would be literally stupid of them to do so, unless and until they are forced to it by popular opinion.
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  165. RobinG says:
    @yurivku
    All these guys are yours anyway. Our stupid medvedev just weak guy who did not dare to resist. But probably it was too early to go to conflict with joint west.
    Hope my English is understandable.

    Your English is perfectly adequate. Your short sentences are more understandable than the showy ramblings of some of our supercilious native speakers. Those who criticize you probably have other motives.

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    Your English is perfectly adequate. Your short sentences are more understandable than the showy ramblings of some of our supercilious native speakers.

     

    Good, just to close this theme, now I'm addressing not to you, but to those critics.
    The my only goal to read-write here is to be understood. If I succeed (which I'm sure of) the goal is archived. There is a small subtarget - to recall that language, which I almost did not use for last 20-30 years.

    Those who criticize you probably have other motives.
     
    Most of them are native Russian speakers so they probaly are saying look here how good we can speak your language, - not like stupid him.
    But I'm not living in English speaking country, nor I have frequent contacts with native speakers and I think that my level just fine for me.

    Anon #167: Also using things related to 733t speak such as “u”as apposed to the word “you” makes you sound like a petulant teenager.
     
    I do use shortcuts like u/you, dont/don't, its/it's, etc (and still will do it) when writing from phone to decrease # of keypresses, but if it's annoying somebody he/she can use magic "IGNORE" button.
    https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/373867/18521500.2c/0_11d7ab_80d4e713_orig
    This way you'll get rid of me forever. But special thanx for a "teenager".

    PS: For my life I haven's seen a single native English speaker with adequite Russian. Even for those who are living here for years. But the distance between Russian and English is equal in both directions.
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  166. Randal says:
    @RobinG
    Exactly. This is why the 2-party tyranny won't let Libertarian, Green, or any other candidates participate in the debates.

    Of course. Why should they? It would be literally stupid of them to do so, unless and until they are forced to it by popular opinion.

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  167. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @yurivku
    Thanx, just when you got some Russian, i'll ask u for English lessons. But until then just f##k off.

    I’m sure he will as soon as he starts posting on a russain board. In the meantime it doesnt change the fact that some of your posts are difficult to understand. Also using things related to 733t speak such as “u”as apposed to the word “you” makes you sound like a petulant teenager.

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  168. @AP
    So did Kadyrov come to Kiev or not in your world?

    Your other claims are just as funny. Was 9-11 a Mossad job in your world, is is your idiocy limited to Ukraine?

    Santa Claus is not a Mossad project.

    9/11 is like holocaust; any dissenter is classified as a Downs Syndrome affected Neandrethal… but at least one doesn’t go to jail…yet…

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  169. Art says:
    @Richard Miller
    I read the Saker's views often.

    One thing I believe most important is an accurate choice of words, considering both the connotation and the denotation. I find it counter productive when Saker speaks of "the crazies", referring to the Neo-Cons or the military industrial complex. These are people who sell death to line their pockets, and "the crazies" is definitely not an apt term. It makes a joke out of what they are doing. I wish that he would stop that.

    I find it counter productive when Saker speaks of “the crazies”, referring to the Neo-Cons or the military industrial complex. These are people who sell death to line their pockets, and “the crazies” is definitely not an apt term. It makes a joke out of what they are doing. I wish that he would stop that.

    Richard Miller,

    An excellent point – the neocons are not “crazy” – they are not unstable – they know precisely what they are doing.

    To give them a status of “crazy” – diminishes their just due. They are due the label of “evil.” Instigating wars is evil.

    Think Peace — Art

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  170. @Peter Akuleyev
    Cohen is a Communist and reflexive hater of the United States in the Noam Chomsky mold. He is either naive or a fool if he believes half of what he is saying.

    Russia never had a decent shot at democracy. The collapse of the Soviet Union was arranged by the Nomenklatura for their own benefit as a massive asset grab. The fight between Yeltsin and the Russian Parliament was basically a fight between two factions, and the Yeltsin/KGB faction beat the CPSU/Red Manager faction. Putin is very much a product of and continuation of the Yeltsin/KGB team (notice, for example, the role that Chubais continues to play in government policy), but the current team realizes how hated Yeltsin is and are smart enough to create plausible distance for public consumption. For the most part the Putin years have been a failure, and these last two decades will be seen as squandered. Very little economic growth, continuing deterioration of the education and health systems, increasing dependence on China and massive transfers of wealth abroad. Those are Putin's primary achievements. On the plus side, Western sanctions have been a net benefit to Russia over the last three years - keeping capital in the country and giving the agricultural, food processing and light manufacturing industries some room to breathe and develop free from Western competition.

    Russia never had a decent shot at democracy.

    If you live in either the U$A or Canada democracy only appears appealing to the relative of entitlement that exists in either country.

    In Canada, specifically British Columbia, citizen initiated election reform is being opposed by parties that were not elected into office. First, in 2008, the NDP party, who lost the election (dresses left, hangs right) campaigned against proportional representation, that was initiated by the citizens of BC. Now, 10 years later, the BCLiberal party (dresses right, hangs right), who lost the election, is campaigning against the citizen initiated election reform!!

    So, the underlying message is: only the entitled have the right to discuss democratic reform, and RULE on it, NOT THE CITIZENS THAT VOTED THEM IN!

    In other words, Russia is not alone. It was the relative level of entitlement during Communism that created self-serving elites, which degraded whatever democracy was there, just like in “western” countries. It is not the ideology, it is how it is implemented.

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  171. peterAUS says:
    @Randal

    Putin never took part in debates with other candidates. Why? I think it’s arrogance, but main thing that he’s not ready to answer for really hot questions. He used to answer on prepared in advance stupid Qs like to bring an order on some territory or give some girl a puppy.
     
    Speculating from a distance based upon pretty universal political basics, surely the obvious reason why Putin avoids facing debates and hard questions is simply that he doesn't need to do so.

    When you have solid majority support and are going to win easily, only a fool would needlessly give opponents the kind of opportunities a debate provides to score points, even if only by getting lucky, and only a fool would needlessly answer hard questions, the responses to which are inevitably going to alienate some voters, when instead he can evade those questions and get voters from both sides of the issue to vote for him.

    If you are going to win easily and the political cost of evading debates or hard questions isn't going to bring the issue into doubt, don't engage in debates or answer hard questions. This is politics 101, really.

    … only a fool would needlessly answer hard questions…

    Ah…well…and I always thought that was the sign of proper leadership.

    People in power answering hard questions by people they rule over. “Need” criteria defined by “below”…not “above”.

    I guess that brings back the “Fuehrer/Great Leader” principle in politics.
    Or Kings of old. Emperors even.

    And, well, why not everywhere where a person in power has life and death decision making ability over people “below”?
    We can start with doctors.

    And, I definitely could’ve used that with my subordinates once upon a time:
    Not that I don’t remember hating that attitude with my superiors. Especially those bureaucrats out of howitzer range.

    Informative.

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    Ah…well…and I always thought that was the sign of proper leadership.
     
    No, I don't think so. It's never (or only in rare circumstances) been a requirement of good (or perhaps I should say effective) leadership to overburden the led with information they are not collectively asking for and that serves no direct and reasonably immediate purpose (such as inspiration, knuckling them down to a hard task, shaping expectations, creating needed political space, etc).

    If all you are saying is that there are occasions when a good leader needs to answer particular hard questions, well that's surely true. But in the absence of specific need, doing so is clearly foolish.

    I guess that brings back the “Fuehrer/Great Leader” principle in politics.
    Or Kings of old. Emperors even.
     
    No, it doesn't. The context itself makes that clear - if you are popular enough as leader not to feel any pressure to answer hard questions then clearly you are the democratic choice. If you aren't then people will soon make you pay a price for evasiveness.
    , @Erebus


    … only a fool would needlessly answer hard questions…

     

    Ah…well…and I always thought that was the sign of proper leadership.
     
    There is no world leader that approaches Putin's performance at his annual marathon press conference. I can't think of a leader in living memory that's had the courage, the wide ranging mastery of subjects, or the mental & physical stamina to handle 4 hrs taking questions on every imaginable topic from an international gathering of some 1400 journalists (including hostiles) with the whole world watching. There is nothing in the history of press conferences like it, much less annually. An awesome tour de force that beggars every other world leader.

    As for political debates, as Randal says he has everything to lose, and nothing to gain. Politically, it's a losing proposition. Start arguing with an idiot, and (s)he'll drag you down to his/her level and beat you with experience. In the absence of some compelling reason, the front-runner in a political campaign is always and everywhere ill-advised to engage.

    You've argued yourself into a rather tight corner, again.
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  172. Randal says:
    @peterAUS

    ... only a fool would needlessly answer hard questions...
     
    Ah...well...and I always thought that was the sign of proper leadership.

    People in power answering hard questions by people they rule over. "Need" criteria defined by "below"...not "above".

    I guess that brings back the "Fuehrer/Great Leader" principle in politics.
    Or Kings of old. Emperors even.

    And, well, why not everywhere where a person in power has life and death decision making ability over people "below"?
    We can start with doctors.

    And, I definitely could've used that with my subordinates once upon a time:
    Not that I don't remember hating that attitude with my superiors. Especially those bureaucrats out of howitzer range.

    Informative.

    Ah…well…and I always thought that was the sign of proper leadership.

    No, I don’t think so. It’s never (or only in rare circumstances) been a requirement of good (or perhaps I should say effective) leadership to overburden the led with information they are not collectively asking for and that serves no direct and reasonably immediate purpose (such as inspiration, knuckling them down to a hard task, shaping expectations, creating needed political space, etc).

    If all you are saying is that there are occasions when a good leader needs to answer particular hard questions, well that’s surely true. But in the absence of specific need, doing so is clearly foolish.

    I guess that brings back the “Fuehrer/Great Leader” principle in politics.
    Or Kings of old. Emperors even.

    No, it doesn’t. The context itself makes that clear – if you are popular enough as leader not to feel any pressure to answer hard questions then clearly you are the democratic choice. If you aren’t then people will soon make you pay a price for evasiveness.

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    It’s never (or only in rare circumstances) been a requirement of good (or perhaps I should say effective) leadership to overburden the led with information they are not collectively asking for and that serves no direct and reasonably immediate purpose (such as inspiration, knuckling them down to a hard task, shaping expectations, creating needed political space, etc).
     


    If all you are saying is that there are occasions when a good leader needs to answer particular hard questions, well that’s surely true. But in the absence of specific need, doing so is clearly foolish.

     


    ..if you are popular enough as leader not to feel any pressure to answer hard questions then clearly you are the democratic choice.
     
    Message received.
    Interesting.

    Let's move on.
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  173. AP says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    Yea, talking to Ukie trolls is like talking to an answering machine, or like having a heart-to-heart conversation with a lamppost. However, even they sometimes make sense. For example, your ideas are often reasonable, but people would treat them more seriously if you improve your English. Look at “AP” here: he/she/it writes incredible BS, but in decent English, so people read it. Some might even believe his/her/its ravings, poor souls.

    Look at “AP” here: he/she/it writes incredible BS

    No, that would be you. You were already caught here, with your fairy tale about Kadyrov coming to Kiev.

    Here’s a response to earlier BS by you:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/vciom-predictions-market/#comment-2182046

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  174. peterAUS says:
    @Randal

    Ah…well…and I always thought that was the sign of proper leadership.
     
    No, I don't think so. It's never (or only in rare circumstances) been a requirement of good (or perhaps I should say effective) leadership to overburden the led with information they are not collectively asking for and that serves no direct and reasonably immediate purpose (such as inspiration, knuckling them down to a hard task, shaping expectations, creating needed political space, etc).

    If all you are saying is that there are occasions when a good leader needs to answer particular hard questions, well that's surely true. But in the absence of specific need, doing so is clearly foolish.

    I guess that brings back the “Fuehrer/Great Leader” principle in politics.
    Or Kings of old. Emperors even.
     
    No, it doesn't. The context itself makes that clear - if you are popular enough as leader not to feel any pressure to answer hard questions then clearly you are the democratic choice. If you aren't then people will soon make you pay a price for evasiveness.

    It’s never (or only in rare circumstances) been a requirement of good (or perhaps I should say effective) leadership to overburden the led with information they are not collectively asking for and that serves no direct and reasonably immediate purpose (such as inspiration, knuckling them down to a hard task, shaping expectations, creating needed political space, etc).

    If all you are saying is that there are occasions when a good leader needs to answer particular hard questions, well that’s surely true. But in the absence of specific need, doing so is clearly foolish.

    ..if you are popular enough as leader not to feel any pressure to answer hard questions then clearly you are the democratic choice.

    Message received.
    Interesting.

    Let’s move on.

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  175. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    Rostislav Ishchenko is an idiot who hasn't got a single prediction on Ukraine correct that I am aware of. He has however been successful at providing flak for Putin's mythical "clever plan," which I suppose is what he is ultimately getting paid for.

    Anon from TN
    You are free to believe whatever you want. In my experience, if the predictions of Rostislav Ischenko differ from those of any Ukie political analyst from Kiev, 99 times out of a 100 Ischenko is right and Ukies are wrong.

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    Says you - a guy who is demonstrably wrong about most things you say about Ukraine:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/vciom-predictions-market/#comment-2182046
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  176. chris says:
    @yurivku
    Got to PC, writing from smartphone is unhandy

    As they say you can’t make everyone happy, for they could have always in their limited view and knowledge of what’s going on behind the scenes could always have done more
     
    Exactly, but I think you know not more that me here in Russia "what's going on behind the scenes".
    And yes, probably there are hidden reasons for his behaviour, but I've written what many (I beleive the majority) of Russians think. Of cource not all, there are some absolute fans of him and absolute enemies, BTW mainly latter are jews for unknown reasons.


    but the fact remains that Putin was the right person at the right time for Russia…
     
    bold assertion - "the fact".
    It's not the fact, - it's your opinion, not more. Yes, It could have been much worse person, but could have been much better. Or you think he's an ideal?

    Nobody denies his achivements, but I mentioned also his (actually ours) losses or mistakes.

    Of cource not all, there are some absolute fans of him and absolute enemies, BTW mainly latter are jews for unknown reasons.

    Is the reason for Jewish hatred of Putin really unknown? In its hysterics, the hatred is similar to the one for Trump. The motive may be that just as they were about to grab the prize, it was snatched from their claws. The expression of this anger is like an insane jealousy. Putin or Trump’s appeasement on every other plane is completely incidental to their goals; he may grovel or he may plea, but they just want him dead.

    When Putin’s next term runs out, Russia will be given the choice of their man or revolution. And by the looks of things they’re not going to wait for the 6 years to be over, even with the risk of nuclear war.

    Am I wrong, Yuri?

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    Is the reason for Jewish hatred of Putin really unknown?
     
    Well, when I said "for unknown reasons" I was near joking. You know there is a taboo on discussing theirs activities, even the word "Jew" is a sort of being rude in Russia.

    Motives of Jews to hate Russia are clear. But Putin is a different case - he's being surrounded with Jewish "friends" and I'm not sure I understand him. Maybe those Jews who hate him doing that because they didn't succeed to be his "friends". You know these friends are extremly rich by coincidence.

    Am I wrong, Yuri?
     
    I don't think I can answer this question. But saving us from hot war it's mainly job for the West. What can we do except strenghthen ourselves? Surrender? No, it's not Russian way. But anyway it won't help.
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  177. AP says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Anon from TN
    You are free to believe whatever you want. In my experience, if the predictions of Rostislav Ischenko differ from those of any Ukie political analyst from Kiev, 99 times out of a 100 Ischenko is right and Ukies are wrong.

    Says you – a guy who is demonstrably wrong about most things you say about Ukraine:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/vciom-predictions-market/#comment-2182046

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  178. Erebus says:
    @peterAUS

    ... only a fool would needlessly answer hard questions...
     
    Ah...well...and I always thought that was the sign of proper leadership.

    People in power answering hard questions by people they rule over. "Need" criteria defined by "below"...not "above".

    I guess that brings back the "Fuehrer/Great Leader" principle in politics.
    Or Kings of old. Emperors even.

    And, well, why not everywhere where a person in power has life and death decision making ability over people "below"?
    We can start with doctors.

    And, I definitely could've used that with my subordinates once upon a time:
    Not that I don't remember hating that attitude with my superiors. Especially those bureaucrats out of howitzer range.

    Informative.

    … only a fool would needlessly answer hard questions…

    Ah…well…and I always thought that was the sign of proper leadership.

    There is no world leader that approaches Putin’s performance at his annual marathon press conference. I can’t think of a leader in living memory that’s had the courage, the wide ranging mastery of subjects, or the mental & physical stamina to handle 4 hrs taking questions on every imaginable topic from an international gathering of some 1400 journalists (including hostiles) with the whole world watching. There is nothing in the history of press conferences like it, much less annually. An awesome tour de force that beggars every other world leader.

    As for political debates, as Randal says he has everything to lose, and nothing to gain. Politically, it’s a losing proposition. Start arguing with an idiot, and (s)he’ll drag you down to his/her level and beat you with experience. In the absence of some compelling reason, the front-runner in a political campaign is always and everywhere ill-advised to engage.

    You’ve argued yourself into a rather tight corner, again.

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    There is no world leader that approaches Putin’s performance at his annual marathon press conference. I can’t think of a leader in living memory that’s had the courage, the wide ranging mastery of subjects, or the mental & physical stamina to handle 4 hrs taking questions on every imaginable topic from an international gathering of some 1400 journalists (including hostiles) with the whole world watching. There is nothing in the history of press conferences like it, much less annually. An awesome tour de force that beggars every other world leader.
     
    Hahaha..."awesome"....oh my. You sixteen?

    I'll save this as a perfect description of a "Putin fanboy".
    Thank you.
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    Exactly. The contrast between Putin, an obviously intelligent man who has serious thoughts on a great number of topics, and American politicians, who can barely mouth mindless platitudes without a teleprompter, could not be more striking.
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  179. Erebus says:
    @yurivku

    A damning claim. Perhaps you could elucidate how Putin prevented “real candidates” from appearing.
     
    As you wish. Fist of all please note that I'm not from Navalnuy's team and my claims are from opposite side. But I've described it in my very first post in this thread.

    When I say "putin" I mean just a system he've built, not him personally. And yes this system will reject everyone not from its clan.
    The basic platform for political start is a Edinaya Rossia party (Единая Россия) which totally degraded and being called as a party of cheaters and thievs (Партия жуликов и воров) , this name was invented by Navalnuy, but it's become widely spread for it's true.

    If someone tries to get in politics from other directions - he'll encounter the resistance from local authorites of different kinds and can even get some criminal problems.
    If nevertheless you got through this (eg Navalnuy with the financial and other help from US and its allies) you will see the main calibers in action like media and courts. Again remember Navalnuy, Udaltsov and others.

    Even registered candidate Grudinin currenly being under continuos attacks in MSM, dirty lies, defamations we can see every day on TV. But those Sobchak, Jirinovski and Co are on screen almost every day and no single bad word you'll hear about them.
    Why? Can you guess?
    They are appointed to make a contrast to a good candidate.

    Putin never took part in debates with other candidates. Why? I think it's arrogance, but main thing that he's not ready to answer for really hot questions. He used to answer on prepared in advance stupid Qs like to bring an order on some territory or give some girl a puppy.

    And I'll recall - I do support Putin in international affairs almost completely not to say that IMHO it's time to react more strong on stupid behavior of US authorities in Syria, Ukraine and more ...
    Hopefully I've answered your question.

    Even registered candidate Grudinin currenly being under continuos attacks in MSM, dirty lies, defamations we can see every day on TV.

    Of course, one need look no further than Trump to see that the abuse heaped on “outsiders” trying to break into the political classes is not unique to Russia. That the political class protects its own is pretty much universal. That they’re in cahoots with media isn’t unique either.

    That Russia went down the same road may be disappointing, but given that the vulnerability of a truly open system to foreign based mischief is simply unacceptable in a super-power, especially at a geo-political tipping point, what choice is there? The trouble, quite simply, is that a super-power’s remit extends beyond its borders.

    I wouldn’t give the planet decent odds of surviving if Russia’s foreign policy was governed by its mad dog Generals, and executed by its version of Tillerson/Haley. There’d be the mother of all food fights within days. The world is deeply indebted to the Russian people’s indulgence in allowing their demagogues, ambitious posers, and people 3-parts mad to be sidelined politically until things stabilize.

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    wouldn’t give the planet decent odds of surviving if Russia’s foreign policy was governed by its mad dog Generals, and executed by its version of Tillerson/Haley. There’d be the mother of all food fights within days. The world is deeply indebted to the Russian people’s indulgence in allowing their demagogues, ambitious posers, and people 3-parts mad to be sidelined politically until things stabilize.
     
    It'll be much better if world was not "deeply indebted", but did something itself apart from insulting, humilating, biting Russia and her people.
    I do understand Putin's tolerance, but sure it's time to show the claws and fangs, it's better to do it on early stage, not in time when only total nuclear retaliation will be possible.
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  180. @yurivku
    I've answered to you below in post #143, sorry

    I understand. That’s all right.

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  181. @Quartermaster
    Cohen is willfully naïve and this article is just more of Saker's bloviation. Putin is a thug, to be charitable, who has managed to worm his way into the top slot in a rapidly failing state.

    Nonsense. The very definition of a thug among political figures is Obama. Putin has been the same calm person in several high offices in Russia through 3 thuggish American presidencies.

    Our country, the US, is the rapidly failing state. How can you manage to be wrong on so much in such a short post? You could do a websearch for Vladimir Putin, and read the factual entries. It might be a pleasant change from your usual diet of CNN and MSNBC.

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  182. @Randal

    Naturally, this has to be included since it’s the most important factor to be considered in judging whether a foreign leader is good or evil. /sarc
     
    In fairness, this is a lefty jewish professor addressing a US sphere mainstream media audience (ie a heavily leftist and as the Saker notes probably disproportionately jewish audience). It's entirely understandable that such people should consider jewish and gay identity issues as amongst their highest priorities. It's just annoying that they are so effective at imposing their priorities upon our entire societies.

    I agree with you about Cohen's expertise on Russia and Putin, but I don't share Saker's warmly congratulatory attitude to his "courage". While there's a degree of courage required to speak out against any elite consensus held for such strongly self-interested reasons by such powerful lobbies as the Russophobic elite consensus in the US sphere, in reality it pales into triviality next to the real personal courage displayed by those who stand up against the anti-"racist" and anti-"anti-Semite" elite consensus in our societies. The latter face real economic consequences (including job loss and effective unemployability), a high potential for actual violence, and in many European countries criminal proceedings. It's all a bit more real than the potential professional disrespect Cohen faces.

    And although I've never heard Cohen on that issue, so this is speculation wide open to rebuttal on my part, I suspect that Cohen would join with his pseudo-liberal fellows in either failing to sufficiently oppose those speechcrime censoring attitudes or actively support them, at any rate the non-violent ones, involving suppressing "racist" and "anti-Semitic" ideas and opinions.

    There are many much more evidently courageous people, and you can find them almost entirely on the patriotic, traditionalist right these days.

    It does take courage to stand up before one’s own ethnic allies and give a speech that they are very likely to hold against you from that point on. That’s enough to qualify as courageous. He doesn’t have to go on from that little venue to speaking on TV to prove that he has courage.

    That’s just inviting influential people to crack down on you. That may be courageous but it’s also foolish.

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  183. peterAUS says:
    @Erebus


    … only a fool would needlessly answer hard questions…

     

    Ah…well…and I always thought that was the sign of proper leadership.
     
    There is no world leader that approaches Putin's performance at his annual marathon press conference. I can't think of a leader in living memory that's had the courage, the wide ranging mastery of subjects, or the mental & physical stamina to handle 4 hrs taking questions on every imaginable topic from an international gathering of some 1400 journalists (including hostiles) with the whole world watching. There is nothing in the history of press conferences like it, much less annually. An awesome tour de force that beggars every other world leader.

    As for political debates, as Randal says he has everything to lose, and nothing to gain. Politically, it's a losing proposition. Start arguing with an idiot, and (s)he'll drag you down to his/her level and beat you with experience. In the absence of some compelling reason, the front-runner in a political campaign is always and everywhere ill-advised to engage.

    You've argued yourself into a rather tight corner, again.

    There is no world leader that approaches Putin’s performance at his annual marathon press conference. I can’t think of a leader in living memory that’s had the courage, the wide ranging mastery of subjects, or the mental & physical stamina to handle 4 hrs taking questions on every imaginable topic from an international gathering of some 1400 journalists (including hostiles) with the whole world watching. There is nothing in the history of press conferences like it, much less annually. An awesome tour de force that beggars every other world leader.

    Hahaha…”awesome”….oh my. You sixteen?

    I’ll save this as a perfect description of a “Putin fanboy”.
    Thank you.

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    Peter, a quick glance at your respective comment histories shows clearly that the person you are responding to and questioning his maturity, most likely had more brain power at sixteen than you will ever have, but keep digging sport. You actually do write like a sixteen year old and not a well educated one either.

    Isn't it time you brought up Clausewitz again? Here's one for you, “...vanity is content with the appearance alone”

    , @Thales the Milesian
    P0glavnik peterAUS.

    P0glavnik of Australia?
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  184. yurivku says:
    @RobinG
    Your English is perfectly adequate. Your short sentences are more understandable than the showy ramblings of some of our supercilious native speakers. Those who criticize you probably have other motives.

    Your English is perfectly adequate. Your short sentences are more understandable than the showy ramblings of some of our supercilious native speakers.

    Good, just to close this theme, now I’m addressing not to you, but to those critics.
    The my only goal to read-write here is to be understood. If I succeed (which I’m sure of) the goal is archived. There is a small subtarget – to recall that language, which I almost did not use for last 20-30 years.

    Those who criticize you probably have other motives.

    Most of them are native Russian speakers so they probaly are saying look here how good we can speak your language, – not like stupid him.
    But I’m not living in English speaking country, nor I have frequent contacts with native speakers and I think that my level just fine for me.

    Anon #167: Also using things related to 733t speak such as “u”as apposed to the word “you” makes you sound like a petulant teenager.

    I do use shortcuts like u/you, dont/don’t, its/it’s, etc (and still will do it) when writing from phone to decrease # of keypresses, but if it’s annoying somebody he/she can use magic “IGNORE” button.

    https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/373867/18521500.2c/0_11d7ab_80d4e713_orig

    This way you’ll get rid of me forever. But special thanx for a “teenager”.

    PS: For my life I haven’s seen a single native English speaker with adequite Russian. Even for those who are living here for years. But the distance between Russian and English is equal in both directions.

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    Yes, you're right. In fact, your English is much better than my Russian. I hope you stick around.
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  185. yurivku says:
    @Randal

    Putin never took part in debates with other candidates. Why? I think it’s arrogance, but main thing that he’s not ready to answer for really hot questions. He used to answer on prepared in advance stupid Qs like to bring an order on some territory or give some girl a puppy.
     
    Speculating from a distance based upon pretty universal political basics, surely the obvious reason why Putin avoids facing debates and hard questions is simply that he doesn't need to do so.

    When you have solid majority support and are going to win easily, only a fool would needlessly give opponents the kind of opportunities a debate provides to score points, even if only by getting lucky, and only a fool would needlessly answer hard questions, the responses to which are inevitably going to alienate some voters, when instead he can evade those questions and get voters from both sides of the issue to vote for him.

    If you are going to win easily and the political cost of evading debates or hard questions isn't going to bring the issue into doubt, don't engage in debates or answer hard questions. This is politics 101, really.

    Speculating from a distance based upon pretty universal political basics, surely the obvious reason why Putin avoids facing debates and hard questions is simply that he doesn’t need to do so.

    Well, I agree. He’s absolutely sure that all the mechanics they use are enough to win. And debates could bring some unmeasured risks. The loss of some votes due to such politics considered him (and it’s right) to be insignificant.

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  186. yurivku says:
    @RobinG
    Yes, if by "Western people" you mean Queen Killary's cabal, Bernard-Henri Lévy (the Jew who goaded France to attack Libya), etc. Most of the rest of us are just dupes and pawns.

    Yes, if by “Western people” you mean Queen Killary’s cabal, Bernard-Henri Lévy (the Jew who goaded France to attack Libya), etc. Most of the rest of us are just dupes and pawns.

    It’s just fine. Let’s use term somebody (SB) in text below.
    SB selects, approves, elects, feeds them (taxes…). They ruin Libya (there are alot in the past, but let’s start from here), then ruin whole ME, got America and Europe filled with refugees. SB still supports them, elected one more embicile who hired a dozen of bastards in his administration.

    All this gang rules SB (with the whole world ) to nowhere. What this Joe Sixpack will say seeing nukes coming down to his garden?
    Sorry, we are just “dupes and pawns”?
    Yes, you have to be dupes doing nothing to change things.
    Of course I understand how difficult for Joe Sixpack to move his ass into dangerous world messing around his garden, but I’m afraid there is no other way.
    Nothing personal. Sorry.

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  187. yurivku says:
    @chris

    Of cource not all, there are some absolute fans of him and absolute enemies, BTW mainly latter are jews for unknown reasons.
     
    Is the reason for Jewish hatred of Putin really unknown? In its hysterics, the hatred is similar to the one for Trump. The motive may be that just as they were about to grab the prize, it was snatched from their claws. The expression of this anger is like an insane jealousy. Putin or Trump’s appeasement on every other plane is completely incidental to their goals; he may grovel or he may plea, but they just want him dead.

    When Putin’s next term runs out, Russia will be given the choice of their man or revolution. And by the looks of things they’re not going to wait for the 6 years to be over, even with the risk of nuclear war.

    Am I wrong, Yuri?

    Is the reason for Jewish hatred of Putin really unknown?

    Well, when I said “for unknown reasons” I was near joking. You know there is a taboo on discussing theirs activities, even the word “Jew” is a sort of being rude in Russia.

    Motives of Jews to hate Russia are clear. But Putin is a different case – he’s being surrounded with Jewish “friends” and I’m not sure I understand him. Maybe those Jews who hate him doing that because they didn’t succeed to be his “friends”. You know these friends are extremly rich by coincidence.

    Am I wrong, Yuri?

    I don’t think I can answer this question. But saving us from hot war it’s mainly job for the West. What can we do except strenghthen ourselves? Surrender? No, it’s not Russian way. But anyway it won’t help.

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    You know there is a taboo on discussing theirs activities, even the word “Jew” is a sort of being rude in Russia.
     
    Very funny, Yuri; yeah, we’ve got that here too.

    But Putin is a different case – he’s being surrounded with Jewish “friends” and I’m not sure I understand him.
     
    So is Trump of course but it only shields them from the charge of anti-Semitism. The reason the Jews themselves surround them is the same reason vultures follow wounded animals, a free lunch may be had soon, besides, they’re not likely to suffer any adverse effects for having been there. Also it’s a good position to provide the coup de grace when the time comes.

    Am I wrong, Yuri?
     
    I was hoping you’d tell me I am wrong and that Russia is secure under Putin and not susceptible to a revolution or war, but you’re right that only the west can call off its dogs of war.

    Thanks fo your other posts as well.

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  188. yurivku says:
    @Erebus

    Even registered candidate Grudinin currenly being under continuos attacks in MSM, dirty lies, defamations we can see every day on TV.
     
    Of course, one need look no further than Trump to see that the abuse heaped on "outsiders" trying to break into the political classes is not unique to Russia. That the political class protects its own is pretty much universal. That they're in cahoots with media isn't unique either.

    That Russia went down the same road may be disappointing, but given that the vulnerability of a truly open system to foreign based mischief is simply unacceptable in a super-power, especially at a geo-political tipping point, what choice is there? The trouble, quite simply, is that a super-power's remit extends beyond its borders.

    I wouldn't give the planet decent odds of surviving if Russia's foreign policy was governed by its mad dog Generals, and executed by its version of Tillerson/Haley. There'd be the mother of all food fights within days. The world is deeply indebted to the Russian people's indulgence in allowing their demagogues, ambitious posers, and people 3-parts mad to be sidelined politically until things stabilize.

    wouldn’t give the planet decent odds of surviving if Russia’s foreign policy was governed by its mad dog Generals, and executed by its version of Tillerson/Haley. There’d be the mother of all food fights within days. The world is deeply indebted to the Russian people’s indulgence in allowing their demagogues, ambitious posers, and people 3-parts mad to be sidelined politically until things stabilize.

    It’ll be much better if world was not “deeply indebted”, but did something itself apart from insulting, humilating, biting Russia and her people.
    I do understand Putin’s tolerance, but sure it’s time to show the claws and fangs, it’s better to do it on early stage, not in time when only total nuclear retaliation will be possible.

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    ... did something itself apart from insulting, humilating, biting Russia and her people.
     
    That's all they got left. In the absence of a discernable strategy, a coherent policy, or even a workable plan, what choice is left but to behave like a Pence at the Olympics, or like an Obama at Mandela's funeral?

    SunTzu said it best:
    "Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak. If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he's a coprophagous, faeces hurling chimp, treat him with forbearance. Use extreme forbearance if he has nukes." ;-)
    , @Avery
    { but sure it’s time to show the claws and fangs, it’s better to do it on early stage, not in time when only total nuclear retaliation will be possible.}

    Russia/Putin showed its 'claws and fangs' aplenty in Syria.
    A few dozen precision Kaliber strikes into Syria all the way from the Caspian Sea showed everyone that needed to know that Russia has long-reach conventional claws and fangs: no need to send troops or go nuclear.

    Without RuAF Syria would now be gone as a sovereign state like Iraq and Libya.
    US Neocons are hysterical with rage, because Russia completely upended their Grand Plans for Middle East.
    It' not over yet, as you know, and the Evil Empire is still in Syria, and is still trying.
    But Syria has a chance now, unlike before.

    Russian leadership is very wise not to go looking for a fight, and keep what fights it has to get involved in manageable and economical - both in manpower and expenditures.
    Despite her miraculous recovery from near-death after USSR dissolved and Yeltsin administration misrule, Russia still has a ways to go. The living standards of the people in RF need to improve much more. Russia's economy and Russia's state budget needs to ween itself from dependence on hydrocarbon income more. Russia is doing great countering US/EU sanctions, but it needs more time to immunize itself completely.

    All those things take years if not decades, and the easiest way to derail it is to get sucked into an endless war. And that's why the Evil Empire keeps needling and bating Russia, hoping it - and Putin - will overreact. US and EU can afford to waste money and resources, but Russia can't.

    As to nukes.
    Russia is constantly upgrading and updating its nuke force (e.g. Sarmat) and is very public about it, so that the cooler heads in the West keep a tight leash on the Neocon warmongers.
    Nothing more Russia can do.
    If someone in the West is crazy enough to want to commit suicide and take the world with them, there is nothing Russia can do.

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  189. @peterAUS

    There is no world leader that approaches Putin’s performance at his annual marathon press conference. I can’t think of a leader in living memory that’s had the courage, the wide ranging mastery of subjects, or the mental & physical stamina to handle 4 hrs taking questions on every imaginable topic from an international gathering of some 1400 journalists (including hostiles) with the whole world watching. There is nothing in the history of press conferences like it, much less annually. An awesome tour de force that beggars every other world leader.
     
    Hahaha..."awesome"....oh my. You sixteen?

    I'll save this as a perfect description of a "Putin fanboy".
    Thank you.

    Peter, a quick glance at your respective comment histories shows clearly that the person you are responding to and questioning his maturity, most likely had more brain power at sixteen than you will ever have, but keep digging sport. You actually do write like a sixteen year old and not a well educated one either.

    Isn’t it time you brought up Clausewitz again? Here’s one for you, “…vanity is content with the appearance alone”

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    ... (he) most likely had more brain power at sixteen than you will ever have...
     
    Sadly, your statement is almost universally applicable.
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  190. @Erebus


    … only a fool would needlessly answer hard questions…

     

    Ah…well…and I always thought that was the sign of proper leadership.
     
    There is no world leader that approaches Putin's performance at his annual marathon press conference. I can't think of a leader in living memory that's had the courage, the wide ranging mastery of subjects, or the mental & physical stamina to handle 4 hrs taking questions on every imaginable topic from an international gathering of some 1400 journalists (including hostiles) with the whole world watching. There is nothing in the history of press conferences like it, much less annually. An awesome tour de force that beggars every other world leader.

    As for political debates, as Randal says he has everything to lose, and nothing to gain. Politically, it's a losing proposition. Start arguing with an idiot, and (s)he'll drag you down to his/her level and beat you with experience. In the absence of some compelling reason, the front-runner in a political campaign is always and everywhere ill-advised to engage.

    You've argued yourself into a rather tight corner, again.

    Exactly. The contrast between Putin, an obviously intelligent man who has serious thoughts on a great number of topics, and American politicians, who can barely mouth mindless platitudes without a teleprompter, could not be more striking.

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  191. gogis says:
    @Peter Akuleyev
    Cohen is a Communist and reflexive hater of the United States in the Noam Chomsky mold. He is either naive or a fool if he believes half of what he is saying.

    Russia never had a decent shot at democracy. The collapse of the Soviet Union was arranged by the Nomenklatura for their own benefit as a massive asset grab. The fight between Yeltsin and the Russian Parliament was basically a fight between two factions, and the Yeltsin/KGB faction beat the CPSU/Red Manager faction. Putin is very much a product of and continuation of the Yeltsin/KGB team (notice, for example, the role that Chubais continues to play in government policy), but the current team realizes how hated Yeltsin is and are smart enough to create plausible distance for public consumption. For the most part the Putin years have been a failure, and these last two decades will be seen as squandered. Very little economic growth, continuing deterioration of the education and health systems, increasing dependence on China and massive transfers of wealth abroad. Those are Putin's primary achievements. On the plus side, Western sanctions have been a net benefit to Russia over the last three years - keeping capital in the country and giving the agricultural, food processing and light manufacturing industries some room to breathe and develop free from Western competition.

    Please refrain from comments about Russian affairs in the future, you literally have no idea. Pretty much everything you stated is 180 and considering your tone you either troll or an idiot

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    Or....at the other hand, please keep commenting about Russian affairs in the future, you apparently have some good info.

    I guess that some people would be particularly interested in topics as:

    The collapse of the Soviet Union was arranged by the Nomenklatura for their own benefit as a massive asset grab.
     
    and

    massive transfers of wealth abroad
     
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  192. Erebus says:
    @yurivku

    wouldn’t give the planet decent odds of surviving if Russia’s foreign policy was governed by its mad dog Generals, and executed by its version of Tillerson/Haley. There’d be the mother of all food fights within days. The world is deeply indebted to the Russian people’s indulgence in allowing their demagogues, ambitious posers, and people 3-parts mad to be sidelined politically until things stabilize.
     
    It'll be much better if world was not "deeply indebted", but did something itself apart from insulting, humilating, biting Russia and her people.
    I do understand Putin's tolerance, but sure it's time to show the claws and fangs, it's better to do it on early stage, not in time when only total nuclear retaliation will be possible.

    … did something itself apart from insulting, humilating, biting Russia and her people.

    That’s all they got left. In the absence of a discernable strategy, a coherent policy, or even a workable plan, what choice is left but to behave like a Pence at the Olympics, or like an Obama at Mandela’s funeral?

    SunTzu said it best:
    “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak. If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he’s a coprophagous, faeces hurling chimp, treat him with forbearance. Use extreme forbearance if he has nukes.” ;-)

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    Just words, I'm afraid it's just lack of courage and determination
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  193. yurivku says:
    @Erebus

    ... did something itself apart from insulting, humilating, biting Russia and her people.
     
    That's all they got left. In the absence of a discernable strategy, a coherent policy, or even a workable plan, what choice is left but to behave like a Pence at the Olympics, or like an Obama at Mandela's funeral?

    SunTzu said it best:
    "Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak. If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he's a coprophagous, faeces hurling chimp, treat him with forbearance. Use extreme forbearance if he has nukes." ;-)

    Just words, I’m afraid it’s just lack of courage and determination

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    Have you considered that these are provocations, designed and intended to get a preferably miscalculated, but specific response? If your enemy is trying to get you to do something, is it ever a good idea to give him the gift he's looking for? Or is it better to frustrate him, and make his increasingly disjointed antics ever more obvious to the world?
    Sure, the Kremlin has its red lines, but I suspect the US hasn't yet come close to them yet. Maybe Maidan in 2014, and look how the Kremlin responded; with a gift they "didn't see coming".

    When swords and spears were the ultimate weapons, one might go to war for honour. In an economically integrated world with nukes, honour waits its turn.

    BTW, Israel Shamir's new article elucidates the negative aspects of Putin's reign, particularly domestically. Much of it mirrors what you've been saying.
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  194. peterAUS says:
    @gogis
    Please refrain from comments about Russian affairs in the future, you literally have no idea. Pretty much everything you stated is 180 and considering your tone you either troll or an idiot

    Or….at the other hand, please keep commenting about Russian affairs in the future, you apparently have some good info.

    I guess that some people would be particularly interested in topics as:

    The collapse of the Soviet Union was arranged by the Nomenklatura for their own benefit as a massive asset grab.

    and

    massive transfers of wealth abroad

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  195. Erebus says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    Peter, a quick glance at your respective comment histories shows clearly that the person you are responding to and questioning his maturity, most likely had more brain power at sixteen than you will ever have, but keep digging sport. You actually do write like a sixteen year old and not a well educated one either.

    Isn't it time you brought up Clausewitz again? Here's one for you, “...vanity is content with the appearance alone”

    … (he) most likely had more brain power at sixteen than you will ever have…

    Sadly, your statement is almost universally applicable.

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  196. Avery says:
    @yurivku

    wouldn’t give the planet decent odds of surviving if Russia’s foreign policy was governed by its mad dog Generals, and executed by its version of Tillerson/Haley. There’d be the mother of all food fights within days. The world is deeply indebted to the Russian people’s indulgence in allowing their demagogues, ambitious posers, and people 3-parts mad to be sidelined politically until things stabilize.
     
    It'll be much better if world was not "deeply indebted", but did something itself apart from insulting, humilating, biting Russia and her people.
    I do understand Putin's tolerance, but sure it's time to show the claws and fangs, it's better to do it on early stage, not in time when only total nuclear retaliation will be possible.

    { but sure it’s time to show the claws and fangs, it’s better to do it on early stage, not in time when only total nuclear retaliation will be possible.}

    Russia/Putin showed its ‘claws and fangs’ aplenty in Syria.
    A few dozen precision Kaliber strikes into Syria all the way from the Caspian Sea showed everyone that needed to know that Russia has long-reach conventional claws and fangs: no need to send troops or go nuclear.

    Without RuAF Syria would now be gone as a sovereign state like Iraq and Libya.
    US Neocons are hysterical with rage, because Russia completely upended their Grand Plans for Middle East.
    It’ not over yet, as you know, and the Evil Empire is still in Syria, and is still trying.
    But Syria has a chance now, unlike before.

    Russian leadership is very wise not to go looking for a fight, and keep what fights it has to get involved in manageable and economical – both in manpower and expenditures.
    Despite her miraculous recovery from near-death after USSR dissolved and Yeltsin administration misrule, Russia still has a ways to go. The living standards of the people in RF need to improve much more. Russia’s economy and Russia’s state budget needs to ween itself from dependence on hydrocarbon income more. Russia is doing great countering US/EU sanctions, but it needs more time to immunize itself completely.

    All those things take years if not decades, and the easiest way to derail it is to get sucked into an endless war. And that’s why the Evil Empire keeps needling and bating Russia, hoping it – and Putin – will overreact. US and EU can afford to waste money and resources, but Russia can’t.

    As to nukes.
    Russia is constantly upgrading and updating its nuke force (e.g. Sarmat) and is very public about it, so that the cooler heads in the West keep a tight leash on the Neocon warmongers.
    Nothing more Russia can do.
    If someone in the West is crazy enough to want to commit suicide and take the world with them, there is nothing Russia can do.

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    Thank you to tell me about Russia, but it's my country. I well know the Syrian story and our weapons, but now it's a time to cure US with its medicine. Not to suggest another cheek to to hit, US understands only such treatment.
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  197. yurivku says:
    @Avery
    { but sure it’s time to show the claws and fangs, it’s better to do it on early stage, not in time when only total nuclear retaliation will be possible.}

    Russia/Putin showed its 'claws and fangs' aplenty in Syria.
    A few dozen precision Kaliber strikes into Syria all the way from the Caspian Sea showed everyone that needed to know that Russia has long-reach conventional claws and fangs: no need to send troops or go nuclear.

    Without RuAF Syria would now be gone as a sovereign state like Iraq and Libya.
    US Neocons are hysterical with rage, because Russia completely upended their Grand Plans for Middle East.
    It' not over yet, as you know, and the Evil Empire is still in Syria, and is still trying.
    But Syria has a chance now, unlike before.

    Russian leadership is very wise not to go looking for a fight, and keep what fights it has to get involved in manageable and economical - both in manpower and expenditures.
    Despite her miraculous recovery from near-death after USSR dissolved and Yeltsin administration misrule, Russia still has a ways to go. The living standards of the people in RF need to improve much more. Russia's economy and Russia's state budget needs to ween itself from dependence on hydrocarbon income more. Russia is doing great countering US/EU sanctions, but it needs more time to immunize itself completely.

    All those things take years if not decades, and the easiest way to derail it is to get sucked into an endless war. And that's why the Evil Empire keeps needling and bating Russia, hoping it - and Putin - will overreact. US and EU can afford to waste money and resources, but Russia can't.

    As to nukes.
    Russia is constantly upgrading and updating its nuke force (e.g. Sarmat) and is very public about it, so that the cooler heads in the West keep a tight leash on the Neocon warmongers.
    Nothing more Russia can do.
    If someone in the West is crazy enough to want to commit suicide and take the world with them, there is nothing Russia can do.

    Thank you to tell me about Russia, but it’s my country. I well know the Syrian story and our weapons, but now it’s a time to cure US with its medicine. Not to suggest another cheek to to hit, US understands only such treatment.

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  198. @peterAUS

    There is no world leader that approaches Putin’s performance at his annual marathon press conference. I can’t think of a leader in living memory that’s had the courage, the wide ranging mastery of subjects, or the mental & physical stamina to handle 4 hrs taking questions on every imaginable topic from an international gathering of some 1400 journalists (including hostiles) with the whole world watching. There is nothing in the history of press conferences like it, much less annually. An awesome tour de force that beggars every other world leader.
     
    Hahaha..."awesome"....oh my. You sixteen?

    I'll save this as a perfect description of a "Putin fanboy".
    Thank you.

    P0glavnik peterAUS.

    P0glavnik of Australia?

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  199. chris says:
    @yurivku

    Is the reason for Jewish hatred of Putin really unknown?
     
    Well, when I said "for unknown reasons" I was near joking. You know there is a taboo on discussing theirs activities, even the word "Jew" is a sort of being rude in Russia.

    Motives of Jews to hate Russia are clear. But Putin is a different case - he's being surrounded with Jewish "friends" and I'm not sure I understand him. Maybe those Jews who hate him doing that because they didn't succeed to be his "friends". You know these friends are extremly rich by coincidence.

    Am I wrong, Yuri?
     
    I don't think I can answer this question. But saving us from hot war it's mainly job for the West. What can we do except strenghthen ourselves? Surrender? No, it's not Russian way. But anyway it won't help.

    You know there is a taboo on discussing theirs activities, even the word “Jew” is a sort of being rude in Russia.

    Very funny, Yuri; yeah, we’ve got that here too.

    But Putin is a different case – he’s being surrounded with Jewish “friends” and I’m not sure I understand him.

    So is Trump of course but it only shields them from the charge of anti-Semitism. The reason the Jews themselves surround them is the same reason vultures follow wounded animals, a free lunch may be had soon, besides, they’re not likely to suffer any adverse effects for having been there. Also it’s a good position to provide the coup de grace when the time comes.

    Am I wrong, Yuri?

    I was hoping you’d tell me I am wrong and that Russia is secure under Putin and not susceptible to a revolution or war, but you’re right that only the west can call off its dogs of war.

    Thanks fo your other posts as well.

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    Very funny, Yuri; yeah, we’ve got that here too.
     
    Not a surprise it's going around the world. In UK it's a crime now:
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/boycotting-israel-is-the-right-thing-to-do/

    I was hoping you’d tell me I am wrong and that Russia is secure under Putin and not susceptible to a revolution or war, but you’re right that only the west can call off its dogs of war.

     

    Look Chris, of course Putin is not God, neither he is a genius. He's a smart and strong man who currenly holding a shaky balance between patriotic forces and their liberal pro-West opposition (BTW latter in majority in goverment and in absolute minority in society).
    This balance could be broken with fatal consequences.
    Where we all will go I just guess, hoping that people won't allow to go where US ass-kissers want us to.

    Thanks fo your other posts as well.
     
    You are welcome, Chris. Thank you.
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  200. @yurivku

    Your English is perfectly adequate. Your short sentences are more understandable than the showy ramblings of some of our supercilious native speakers.

     

    Good, just to close this theme, now I'm addressing not to you, but to those critics.
    The my only goal to read-write here is to be understood. If I succeed (which I'm sure of) the goal is archived. There is a small subtarget - to recall that language, which I almost did not use for last 20-30 years.

    Those who criticize you probably have other motives.
     
    Most of them are native Russian speakers so they probaly are saying look here how good we can speak your language, - not like stupid him.
    But I'm not living in English speaking country, nor I have frequent contacts with native speakers and I think that my level just fine for me.

    Anon #167: Also using things related to 733t speak such as “u”as apposed to the word “you” makes you sound like a petulant teenager.
     
    I do use shortcuts like u/you, dont/don't, its/it's, etc (and still will do it) when writing from phone to decrease # of keypresses, but if it's annoying somebody he/she can use magic "IGNORE" button.
    https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/373867/18521500.2c/0_11d7ab_80d4e713_orig
    This way you'll get rid of me forever. But special thanx for a "teenager".

    PS: For my life I haven's seen a single native English speaker with adequite Russian. Even for those who are living here for years. But the distance between Russian and English is equal in both directions.

    Yes, you’re right. In fact, your English is much better than my Russian. I hope you stick around.

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    I will -)). Until get too tired with trolls or I'll be banned for something.
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  201. yurivku says:
    @Twodees Partain
    Yes, you're right. In fact, your English is much better than my Russian. I hope you stick around.

    I will -)). Until get too tired with trolls or I’ll be banned for something.

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    Yuri, you won't get banned here. But almost everyone who was pressing Russia point of view in National interest got banned. They seem to track IP addresses of the banned.
    , @Twodees Partain
    I just add each troll I encounter to my ignore list. It makes the comment section more manageable, as well.
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  202. yurivku says:
    @chris

    You know there is a taboo on discussing theirs activities, even the word “Jew” is a sort of being rude in Russia.
     
    Very funny, Yuri; yeah, we’ve got that here too.

    But Putin is a different case – he’s being surrounded with Jewish “friends” and I’m not sure I understand him.
     
    So is Trump of course but it only shields them from the charge of anti-Semitism. The reason the Jews themselves surround them is the same reason vultures follow wounded animals, a free lunch may be had soon, besides, they’re not likely to suffer any adverse effects for having been there. Also it’s a good position to provide the coup de grace when the time comes.

    Am I wrong, Yuri?
     
    I was hoping you’d tell me I am wrong and that Russia is secure under Putin and not susceptible to a revolution or war, but you’re right that only the west can call off its dogs of war.

    Thanks fo your other posts as well.

    Very funny, Yuri; yeah, we’ve got that here too.

    Not a surprise it’s going around the world. In UK it’s a crime now:

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/boycotting-israel-is-the-right-thing-to-do/

    I was hoping you’d tell me I am wrong and that Russia is secure under Putin and not susceptible to a revolution or war, but you’re right that only the west can call off its dogs of war.

    Look Chris, of course Putin is not God, neither he is a genius. He’s a smart and strong man who currenly holding a shaky balance between patriotic forces and their liberal pro-West opposition (BTW latter in majority in goverment and in absolute minority in society).
    This balance could be broken with fatal consequences.
    Where we all will go I just guess, hoping that people won’t allow to go where US ass-kissers want us to.

    Thanks fo your other posts as well.

    You are welcome, Chris. Thank you.

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  203. Erebus says:
    @yurivku
    Just words, I'm afraid it's just lack of courage and determination

    Have you considered that these are provocations, designed and intended to get a preferably miscalculated, but specific response? If your enemy is trying to get you to do something, is it ever a good idea to give him the gift he’s looking for? Or is it better to frustrate him, and make his increasingly disjointed antics ever more obvious to the world?
    Sure, the Kremlin has its red lines, but I suspect the US hasn’t yet come close to them yet. Maybe Maidan in 2014, and look how the Kremlin responded; with a gift they “didn’t see coming”.

    When swords and spears were the ultimate weapons, one might go to war for honour. In an economically integrated world with nukes, honour waits its turn.

    BTW, Israel Shamir’s new article elucidates the negative aspects of Putin’s reign, particularly domestically. Much of it mirrors what you’ve been saying.

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    Sure, the Kremlin has its red lines, but I suspect the US hasn’t yet come close to them yet. Maybe Maidan in 2014, and look how the Kremlin responded; with a gift they “didn’t see coming”.
     
    No, now it's a time to react after bombing SAA where probably some Russians were killed and after Israelis attack it's surely should be answered.
    There is a time to prove that "If the fight seems to be inevitable you should hit first" (c) Putin.
    This time it's possible to hit without nukes. Later could be too late and only Satan case remains.
    Time to retreat and cite the Chinees wisdoms is over.

    BTW, Israel Shamir’s new article elucidates the negative aspects of Putin’s reign, particularly domestically. Much of it mirrors what you’ve been saying.
     
    If you mean this one:
    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/a-russian-trump/
    I've read and even commented it.
    But this is not bad also:
    http://www.unz.com/proberts/russia-in-the-crosshairs/
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  204. @yurivku
    I will -)). Until get too tired with trolls or I'll be banned for something.

    Yuri, you won’t get banned here. But almost everyone who was pressing Russia point of view in National interest got banned. They seem to track IP addresses of the banned.

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  205. yurivku says:

    Thanks Sergey, but:

    1) I’m not afraid despite UNZ is an interesting place
    2) Luckily I’m not going to write to any US MSM because they are containers with a pure shit, even without any impurity
    Up to now I have a bit to say here, but when it’ll get boring – I’ll leave.

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  206. yurivku says:
    @Erebus
    Have you considered that these are provocations, designed and intended to get a preferably miscalculated, but specific response? If your enemy is trying to get you to do something, is it ever a good idea to give him the gift he's looking for? Or is it better to frustrate him, and make his increasingly disjointed antics ever more obvious to the world?
    Sure, the Kremlin has its red lines, but I suspect the US hasn't yet come close to them yet. Maybe Maidan in 2014, and look how the Kremlin responded; with a gift they "didn't see coming".

    When swords and spears were the ultimate weapons, one might go to war for honour. In an economically integrated world with nukes, honour waits its turn.

    BTW, Israel Shamir's new article elucidates the negative aspects of Putin's reign, particularly domestically. Much of it mirrors what you've been saying.

    Sure, the Kremlin has its red lines, but I suspect the US hasn’t yet come close to them yet. Maybe Maidan in 2014, and look how the Kremlin responded; with a gift they “didn’t see coming”.

    No, now it’s a time to react after bombing SAA where probably some Russians were killed and after Israelis attack it’s surely should be answered.
    There is a time to prove that “If the fight seems to be inevitable you should hit first” (c) Putin.
    This time it’s possible to hit without nukes. Later could be too late and only Satan case remains.
    Time to retreat and cite the Chinees wisdoms is over.

    BTW, Israel Shamir’s new article elucidates the negative aspects of Putin’s reign, particularly domestically. Much of it mirrors what you’ve been saying.

    If you mean this one:

    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/a-russian-trump/

    I’ve read and even commented it.
    But this is not bad also:

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/russia-in-the-crosshairs/

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    No, now it’s a time to react after bombing SAA where probably some Russians were killed and after Israelis attack it’s surely should be answered.
     
    We are like Plato's cave dwellers, watching shadows on the wall. Very little of what we see is real, and there's much we don't see at all.

    If you're talking about the Feb 7 incident near DeZ, the word "probably" doesn't apply. We know very little about the incident itself. What we do know is that whatever really happened was quickly smothered under a thick layer of fake news claiming anywhere from "dozens" to 600 Russian casualties, apparently suffered by a "Russian" PMC named Wagner. This was actively backed by amateurishly photo-shopped pictures and videos of obviously false provenance (mostly from Ukrainian sources). There is almost zero evidence of anything having happened at all that involved anything more than local tribal militias.

    Given that Russian law does not permit the formation of Russian PMCs, one wonders if this "Wagner" even exists, or if it does whether they'd be permitted to wander around Syria attacking US assets. Nevertheless, Russian liberal and social media (including friendlies) swallowed the bait (or followed their instructions) and chimed in calling Putin weak, a traitor, demanding withdrawal from Syria, demanding retaliation, etc.

    That may be no more than schoolyard thinking at best, or just plain gullibility, but much more likely it's an attempt to smear Putin before the election. I expect more of the same in the coming weeks.

    The field is much larger than Ukraine and Syria, or even Russia. Your reaction to sanctions and insults is understandable. I'd be damn pissed as well, but while it may be time to react in kind, I can't see how it is surely so. We simply don't see the connections between Silk Road developments, gas pipelines, monetary & financial developments, etc etc and how they relate to what's going on in Syria, the Ukraine, the Washington swamp, and in the media.

    Anyway, what Russia should be doing is giving the Syrians the means to defend themselves against Israeli & American provocations. With the recent ambush of Israeli air assets, followed by Netanyahoo's telecon with Putin, the rules seem to have changed. Israel's counter attacks stopped.

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  207. @Quartermaster
    Cohen is willfully naïve and this article is just more of Saker's bloviation. Putin is a thug, to be charitable, who has managed to worm his way into the top slot in a rapidly failing state.

    Putin’s Governor of California?

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  208. Erebus says:
    @yurivku

    Sure, the Kremlin has its red lines, but I suspect the US hasn’t yet come close to them yet. Maybe Maidan in 2014, and look how the Kremlin responded; with a gift they “didn’t see coming”.
     
    No, now it's a time to react after bombing SAA where probably some Russians were killed and after Israelis attack it's surely should be answered.
    There is a time to prove that "If the fight seems to be inevitable you should hit first" (c) Putin.
    This time it's possible to hit without nukes. Later could be too late and only Satan case remains.
    Time to retreat and cite the Chinees wisdoms is over.

    BTW, Israel Shamir’s new article elucidates the negative aspects of Putin’s reign, particularly domestically. Much of it mirrors what you’ve been saying.
     
    If you mean this one:
    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/a-russian-trump/
    I've read and even commented it.
    But this is not bad also:
    http://www.unz.com/proberts/russia-in-the-crosshairs/

    No, now it’s a time to react after bombing SAA where probably some Russians were killed and after Israelis attack it’s surely should be answered.

    We are like Plato’s cave dwellers, watching shadows on the wall. Very little of what we see is real, and there’s much we don’t see at all.

    If you’re talking about the Feb 7 incident near DeZ, the word “probably” doesn’t apply. We know very little about the incident itself. What we do know is that whatever really happened was quickly smothered under a thick layer of fake news claiming anywhere from “dozens” to 600 Russian casualties, apparently suffered by a “Russian” PMC named Wagner. This was actively backed by amateurishly photo-shopped pictures and videos of obviously false provenance (mostly from Ukrainian sources). There is almost zero evidence of anything having happened at all that involved anything more than local tribal militias.

    Given that Russian law does not permit the formation of Russian PMCs, one wonders if this “Wagner” even exists, or if it does whether they’d be permitted to wander around Syria attacking US assets. Nevertheless, Russian liberal and social media (including friendlies) swallowed the bait (or followed their instructions) and chimed in calling Putin weak, a traitor, demanding withdrawal from Syria, demanding retaliation, etc.

    That may be no more than schoolyard thinking at best, or just plain gullibility, but much more likely it’s an attempt to smear Putin before the election. I expect more of the same in the coming weeks.

    The field is much larger than Ukraine and Syria, or even Russia. Your reaction to sanctions and insults is understandable. I’d be damn pissed as well, but while it may be time to react in kind, I can’t see how it is surely so. We simply don’t see the connections between Silk Road developments, gas pipelines, monetary & financial developments, etc etc and how they relate to what’s going on in Syria, the Ukraine, the Washington swamp, and in the media.

    Anyway, what Russia should be doing is giving the Syrians the means to defend themselves against Israeli & American provocations. With the recent ambush of Israeli air assets, followed by Netanyahoo’s telecon with Putin, the rules seem to have changed. Israel’s counter attacks stopped.

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  209. @yurivku
    I will -)). Until get too tired with trolls or I'll be banned for something.

    I just add each troll I encounter to my ignore list. It makes the comment section more manageable, as well.

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