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I don’t know whether the supposedly Chinese curse really comes from China, but whether it does or not, we most certainly are cursed with living in some truly interesting times: Iran won the first phase of the “tanker battle” against the AngloZionists, Putin offered to sell Russian hypersonic missiles to Trump (Putin has been trolling western leaders a lot lately) while Alexander Lukashenko took the extreme measure of completely shutting down the border between the Ukraine and Belarus due to the huge influx of weapons and nationalist extremists from the Ukraine. As he put it himself “if weapons fall into the hands of ordinary people and especially nationalist-minded people, wait for terrorism“. He is quite right, of course. Still, there is a sweet irony here, or call it karma if you prefer, but for the Ukronazis who promised their people a visa-free entrance into the EU (for tourism only, and if you have money to spend, but still…), and yet 5 years into that obscene experiment of creating a rabidly russophobic Ukraine and 100 days (or so) into Zelenskii’s presidency, we have the Ukraine’s closest and most supportive neighbor forced to totally shut down its border due to the truly phenomenal toxicity of the Ukrainian society! But, then again, the Ukraine is such a basket-case that we can count on “most interesting” things (in the sense of the Chinese curse, of course) happening there too.

Interestingly, one of the people the Ukrainians gave up in this exchange was Vladimir Tsemakh, a native of the Donbass who was kidnapped by the Ukie SBU in Novorussia (our noble “Europeans” did not object to such methods!) and declared the “star witness” against Russia in the MH-17 (pseudo-)investigation. Even more pathetic is that the Dutch apparently fully endorsed this load of crapola. Finally, and just for a good laugh, check out how the infamous’ Bellingcat presented Tsemakh. And then, suddenly, everybody seem to “forget” that “star witness” and now the Ukies have sent him to Russia. Amazing how fast stuff gets lost in the collective western memory hole…

Urkoterrorists Sentsov and Kolchenko
Urkoterrorists Sentsov and Kolchenko

Right now there seems to be a tug of war taking place between the more mentally sane elements of the Zelenskii administration and the various nationalist extremists in the SBU, deathsquads and even regular armed forces. Thus we see these apparently contradictory developments taking place: on on hand, the Ukraine finally agreed to a prisoner swap with Russia (a painful one for Russia as Russia mostly traded real criminals, including a least two bona fide Ukie terrorist, against what are mostly civilian hostages, but Putin decided – correctly I think – that freeing Russian nationalists from Ukie jails was more important in this case) while on the other hand, the Ukronazi armed forces increased their shelling, even with 152mm howitzers which fire 50kg high explosive fragmentation shells, against the Donbass. Whatever may be the case, this prisoner swap, no matter how one-sided and unfair, is a positive development which might mark the beginning of a pragmatic and less ideological attitude in Kiev.

Some very cautious beginnings of a little hint of optimism might be in order following that exchange, but the big stuff seems to be scheduled for the meeting of the Normandy Group (NG), probably in France. So far, the Russians have made it very clear that they will not meet just for the hell of meeting, and that the only circumstance in which the Russians will agree to a NG meeting would be if it has good chances of yielding meaningful results which, translated from Russian diplomatic language simply means “if/when Kiev stops stonewalling and sabotaging everything”. Specifically, the Russians are demanding that Zelenskii commit in writing to the so-called “Steinmeier formula” and that the Ukrainian forces withdraw from the line of contact. Will that happen? Maybe. We shall soon find out.

But the single most amazing event of the past couple of weeks was the absolutely astonishing speech French President Emmanuel Macron made in front of an assembly of ambassadors. I could not find the full speech translated into English (I may have missed it somewhere), so I will post the crucial excerpts in French and translate them myself. If I find a full, official, translation I will post it under this column ASAP. For the time being, this is the link to the full speech transcript in French:

https://www.elysee.fr/emmanuel-macron/2019/08/27/discours-du-president-de-la-republique-a-la-conference-des-ambassadeurs-1

Let’s immediately begin with some of the most incredible excerpts, emphasis added by me: (sorry for the long quote but, truly, each word counts!)

L’ordre international est bousculé de manière inédite mais surtout avec, si je puis dire, un grand bouleversement qui se fait sans doute pour la première fois dans notre histoire à peu près dans tous les domaines, avec une magnitude profondément historique. C’est d’abord une transformation, une recomposition géopolitique et stratégique. Nous sommes sans doute en train de vivre la fin de l’hégémonie occidentale sur le monde. Nous nous étions habitués à un ordre international qui depuis le 18ème siècle reposait sur une hégémonie occidentale, vraisemblablement française au 18ème siècle, par l’inspiration des Lumières ; sans doute britannique au 19ème grâce à la révolution industrielle et raisonnablement américaine au 20ème grâce aux 2 grands conflits et à la domination économique et politique de cette puissance. Les choses changent. Et elles sont profondément bousculées par les erreurs des Occidentaux dans certaines crises, par les choix aussi américains depuis plusieurs années et qui n’ont pas commencé avec cette administration mais qui conduisent à revisiter certaines implications dans des conflits au Proche et Moyen-Orient et ailleurs, et à repenser une stratégie profonde, diplomatique et militaire, et parfois des éléments de solidarité dont nous pensions qu’ils étaient des intangibles pour l’éternité même si nous avions constitué ensemble dans des moments géopolitiques qui pourtant aujourd’hui ont changé. Et puis c’est aussi l’émergence de nouvelles puissances dont nous avons sans doute longtemps sous-estimé l’impact. La Chine au premier rang mais également la stratégie russe menée, il faut bien le dire, depuis quelques années avec plus de succès. J’y reviendrai. L’Inde qui émerge, ces nouvelles économies qui deviennent aussi des puissances pas seulement économiques mais politiques et qui se pensent comme certains ont pu l’écrire, comme de véritables États civilisations et qui viennent non seulement bousculer notre ordre international, qui viennent peser dans l’ordre économique mais qui viennent aussi repenser l’ordre politique et l’imaginaire politique qui va avec, avec beaucoup de force et beaucoup plus d’inspiration que nous n’en avons. Regardons l’Inde, la Russie et la Chine. Elles ont une inspiration politique beaucoup plus forte que les Européens aujourd’hui. Elles pensent le monde avec une vraie logique, une vraie philosophie, un imaginaire que nous avons un peu perdu

Here is my informal translation of these words:

The international order is being shaken in an unprecedented manner, above all with, if I may say so, by the great upheaval that is undoubtedly taking place for the first time in our history, in almost every field and with a profoundly historic magnitude. The first thing we observe is a major transformation, a geopolitical and strategic re-composition. We are undoubtedly experiencing the end of Western hegemony over the world. We were accustomed to an international order which, since the 18th century, rested on a Western hegemony, mostly French in the 18th century, by the inspiration of the Enlightenment; then mostly British in the 19th century thanks to the Industrial Revolution and, finally, mostly American in the 20th century thanks to the 2 great conflicts and the economic and political domination of this power. Things change. And they are now deeply shaken by the mistakes of Westerners in certain crises, by the choices that have been made by Americans for several years which did not start with this administration, but which lead to revisiting certain implications in conflicts in the Middle East and elsewhere, and to rethinking a deep, diplomatic and military strategy, and sometimes elements of solidarity that we thought were intangible for eternity, even if we had constituted together in geopolitical moments that have changed. And then there is the emergence of new powers whose impact we have probably underestimated for a long time. China is at the forefront, but also the Russian strategy, which has, it must be said, been pursued more successfully in recent years. I will come back to that. India that is emerging, these new economies that are also becoming powers not only economic but political and that think themselves, as some have written, as real “civilizational states” which now come not only to shake up our international order but who also come to weigh in on the economic order and to rethink the political order and the political imagination that goes with it, with much dynamism and much more inspiration than we have. Look at India, Russia and China. They have a much stronger political inspiration than Europeans today. They think about our planet with a true logic, a true philosophy, an imagination that we’ve lost a little bit.

Now let’s unpack these key statements one by one:

1) “ great upheaval that is undoubtedly taking place for the first time in our history in almost every field and with a profoundly historic magnitude”

ORDER IT NOW

Here Macron sets the stage for some truly momentous observations: what will be discussed next is not only a major event, but one without precedent in history (whether French or European). Furthermore, what will be discussed next, affects “almost every field” and with huge historical implications.

2) “We are undoubtedly experiencing the end of Western hegemony over the world”

When I read that, my first and rather infantile reaction was to exclaim “really?! No kiddin’?! Who would have thought!?” After all, some of us have been saying that for a long, long while, but never-mind that. What is important is that even a Rothschild-puppet like Macron had to finally speak these words. Oh sure, he probably felt as happy as the Captain of the Titanic when he had to (finally!) order a general evacuation of this putatively unsinkable ship, but nonetheless – he did do it. From now on, the notion of the end of the western hegemony on the planet is no more relegated to what the leaders of the Empire and their propaganda machine like to call “fringe extremists” and has now fully entered the (supposedly) “respectable” and “mainstream” public discourse. This is a huge victory for all of us who have been saying the same things for years already.

3) “by the mistakes of Westerners in certain crises, by the choices that have been made by Americans for several years”

Here, again, I feel like engaging in some petty self-congratulation and want to say “I told you that too!”, but that would really be infantile, would it not? But yeah, while the internal contradictions of western materialism in general, and of AngloZionist Capitalism specifically, have been catching up with the Western World and while an eventual catastrophic crisis was inevitable, it also sure is true that western leaders mostly did it to themselves; at the very least, they dramatically accelerated these processes. In this context, I would single out the following politicians for a nomination to a medal for exceptional service in the destruction of the western hegemony over our long-suffering planet: Donald Trump and Barak Obama, of course, but also François Hollande and Emmanuel Macron (yes, he too even if he now changes his tune!), Angela Merkel, of course, and then last but not least, every single British Prime Minister since Margaret Thatcher (maybe with special commendation for Teresa May). Who knows, maybe they were all KGB/GRU/SVR agents after all? (just kiddin’!)

4) “ the emergence of new powers whose impact we have probably underestimated for a long time. China is at the forefront, but also the Russian strategy, which has, it must be said, been pursued more successfully in recent years”

Next, it’s not only China. Russia too is a major competitor, and a very successful one at that, hence the admission that in spite of all the efforts of the AngloZionist elites not only did the Empire not succeed in breaking Russia, but Russia has been very successful in defeating the western efforts. To those interested, I highly recommend this article by Jon Hellevig on the true state of the Russian economy. Finally, in military terms, Russia has achieved more than parity. In fact, I would argue that at least in terms of quality the Russian armed forces are ahead in several crucial technologies (hypersonic missiles, air defenses, electronic warfare etc.) even while she still lags behind in other technologies (mostly truly obsolete things like aircraft carriers). But most crucial is the political victory of Russia: five years after the Euromaidan and the liberation of Crimea from the Nazi yoke, the US is far more isolated than Russia. It’s comical, really!

5) “real “civilizational states” which now come not only to shake up our international order

I have been speaking about a unique, and very distinct, “Russian civilizational realm” in many of my writings and I am quite happy to see Macron using almost the same words. Of course, Macron did not only mean Russia here, but also India and China. Still, and although the Russian nation is much younger than the one of China or, even more so India, 1000 years of Russian civilization does deserve to be listed next to these two other giants of world history. And what is absolutely certain is that China and India could never build the new international order they want without Russia, at least for the foreseeable future. In spite of all the very real progress made recently by the Chinese armed forces (and, to a lesser degree, also the Indian ones), Russia still remains a much stronger military power than China. What Russia, China and India are, is that they are all former empires which have given up on imperialism and who now only aspire to be powerful, but nevertheless “normal” nations. Just by their size and geography, these are “un-invadable” countries who all present a distinct model of development and who want a multi-polar international order which would allow them to safely achieve their goals. In other words, Macron understands that the future international order will be dictated by China, Russia and India and not by any combination of western powers. Quite an admission indeed!

6) “ Look at India, Russia and China. They have a much stronger political inspiration than Europeans today. They think about our planet with a true logic, a true philosophy, an imagination that we’ve lost a little bit.”

This is the “core BRICS” challenge to the Empire: China and Russia have already established what the Chinese call a “Comprehensive Strategic Partnership of Coordination for the New Era”. If they can now extend this kind of informal but extremely profound partnership (I think of it as “symbiotic”) to India next, then the BRICS will have a formidable future (especially after the Brazilian people give the boot to Bolsonaro and his US patrons). Should that fail and should India chose to remain outside this unique relationship, then the SCO will become the main game in town. And yes, Macron is spot on: China and, especially, Russia have a fundamentally different worldview and, unlike the western one, theirs does have “much stronger political” goals (Macron used the word “aspirations”), “a real philosophy and imagination” which the West has lost, and not just a “little bit” but, I would argue, completely. But one way or the other, and for the first time in 1000 years, the future of our planet will not be decided anywhere in the West, not in Europe (old or “new”), but in Asia, primarily by the Russian-Chinese alliance. As I explained here, the AngloZionist Empire is probably the last one in history, definitely the last western one.

Now we should not be naïve here, Macron did not suddenly find religion, grow a conscience or suddenly become an expert on international relations. There is, of course, a cynical reason why he is changing his tune. In fact, there are several such reasons. First, it appears that the on and off bromance between Macron and Trump is over. Second, all of Europe is in free fall socially, economically and, of course, politically. And with a total nutcase in power in London dealing with Brexit and with Angela Merkel’s apparently never-ending political agony, it is only logical for a French head of state to try to step in. Furthermore, while I have always said that Russia is not part of Europe culturally and spiritually, Russia is very much part of Europe geographically, economically and politically and there is simply no way for any imaginable alliance of European states to save Europe from its current predicament without Russian help. Like it or not, that is a fact, irrespective of whether politician or commentator X, Y or Z realizes this or not. Macron probably figured out that the so-called “East Europeans” are nothing but cheap prostitutes doing whatever Uncle Shmuel wants them to do, Germany is collapsing under the weight of Merkel’s “brilliant” immigration policy while the UK under BoJo is busy trying to self-destruct at least as fast as the US under Trump. Macron is right. If united, Russia and France could build a much safer Europe than the one we see slowly and painfully dying before our eyes today. But he is also wrong if he thinks that Russia can be “re-invited” back into the AngloZionist sphere of influence. In that context, Putin’s reply to the question of whether Russia was willing to return to the G8 is very telling: first he said that if the G7 wants to come back to Russia, Putin would welcome that, but then he also added that the G7/8 is useless without, yes, you guessed it, China and India.

It will be interesting to see if the current G7 will ever agree to mutate into a new G10 which would make Russia, China and India the most powerful block (or voting group) of this new forum. I personally doubt it very much, but then they are becoming desperate and Macron’s words seem to be indicating that this option is at least being discussed behind closed doors. Frankly, considering how quickly the G7 is becoming utterly irrelevant, I expect it to be gradually phased out and replaced by the (objectively much more relevant) G20.

Finally, there are Trump’s efforts into getting Russia back into the G8 which are very transparently linked to the current trade war and geostrategic competition between the US and China. The offer is useless to Russia, just like the return to PACE, but Russia does not want to needlessly offend anybody and that is why Putin did not publicly rebuff Trump or directly refuse to come to Miami: instead, he approved of the general concept, but offered a better way to go about it. Typical Putin.

Conclusion: Macron reads the writing on the wall

Whatever his political motives to say what he said, Macron is no idiot and neither are his advisors. Neither is this a “one off” thing. The French meant every word Macron spoke and they are putting everybody on notice (including the Ukrainians, the US, the EU and the Russians, of course). In fact, Macron has already invited Putin to participate in a Normandy Format meeting in Paris in the very near future. If that meeting eventually does take place, this will mean that the organizers gave Putin guarantees that this will not just be the usual kaffeeklatsch and that some serious results will finally be obtained. That, in turn, means that somebody – probably the French – will have the unpleasant task of telling the Ukrainians that the party is over and that they now need to get their act together and start implementing the Minsk Agreements, something which Zelenskii might or might not try to do, but which the real gun-toting Ukronazis will never accept. Thus, if the West is really serious about forcing Kiev to abide by the Mink Agreements, then the West has to finally give-up its self-defeating russophobic hysteria and substantially change their tone about the Ukraine. To invite Putin to Paris just to tell him again that Russia (which is not even a party to the Minsk Agreements) “must do more” makes zero sense. Therefore, all the other parties will have to come to terms with reality before inviting Putin. Apparently, this might be happening in Paris. As for Trump, he just offered to mediate (if asked to do so) between Russia and the Ukraine.

It shall be extremely interesting to see if this Normandy Format meeting does actually take place and what role, if any, Trump and the US will play behind the scenes. We shall then know if Macron’s epiphany was just a one-time fluke or not.

PS: the latest rumor from the Ukraine: Zelenskii supporters are saying that Poroshenko is preparing a coup against Zelenskii and that he is preparing a special force of Ukronazi deathsquads to execute that coup. Dunno about a real coup, but they have already blocked the Rada. Never a dull moment indeed… 🙂

 
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  1. Erebus says:

    But the single most amazing event of the past couple of weeks was the absolutely astonishing speech French President Emmanuel Macron made in front of an assembly of ambassadors.

    Not for the first time.

    Macron has a history of apparently inexplicably blurting out truths (which are then usually walked back by exigencies). I think the Rothschilds, whatever else they might be, are extraordinarily perceptive realists. You don’t get to where they are, and stay there through centuries by being anything else. A very wide, value free, clear-eyed view is what you get from their vantage point.

    They’re using their court fool to let the world know what they think. A drip here and a drip there, and eventually everyone who needs to know knows of the coming flood. You can bet your last donut that the Rothschilds positioned themselves to take advantage of the trends they saw decades ago. Not least because they started some of them.

    • Agree: Parfois1
  2. Germany is collapsing under the weight of Merkel’s “brilliant” emigration policy …

    Emigration? I think you mean immigration.

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  3. jiri says:

    Macron has only stated the obvious. The surprise is that it has been stated so clearly by a prominent political leader of The West.

    Number of options left for the hegemon and its allies.

    1. Trundle along and eventually join the order created/led by Russia, China, India.

    2. Create a parallel system with The West and its allies. This will be a bipolar world similar to the Warsaw Pact countries and the rest as was during the cold war.

    3. Try and blow up Russia and China so that it will take them a hundred years or so to recover, if they recover. US will take some damage or may be totally destroyed but the Dr. Strangelove logic holds strong in the US.

    Option two seems to be the favoured one, for now. Decoupling already seems to be in progress and we are hearing more and more, the word “decoupling”. The trade war with China seems to be leading to it.

    We will know soon. Either during Trumps second term or during the term of the next president, at the latest.

    • Replies: @Beckow
  4. @Erebus

    A very wide, value free, clear-eyed view is what you get from their vantage point.

    Financial capital loves stability, it is also its main destroyer and detractor–a classic Hegelian struggle and unity of opposites. Money (capital) without hard power is nothing nor can money alone generate or hold on to power for long due to its very nature, which is speculation and extraction of usury. In the end, as Pushkin wrote, translating from unknown French folk poem:

    LE FER ET L’OR

    — Tout est à moi, car je l’achète
    Et je paye en deniers comptants,
    Disait l’Or élevant la tête,
    — Tout beau, dit le fer, je t’arrête;
    Tout est à moi, car je le prends

    Capital in modern world, as current events so vividly demonstrate, is nothing when it is not ran by professionals whose expertise spreads way beyond finances. In fact, having serious engineering and military background, that is having an ability to build weapons, which can re-set any monetary value in a single salvo or operation by couple of well-trained motor-rifle divisions, is much more valuable than whatever gold is on the other side. After all, one can always take it by means removing those who own and protect it–that is the nature of hard power. This historic truism was forgotten in the wake of the Soviet collapse and emergence of Pax Americana, when it seemed that the hard power of the West was unstoppable–but it only seemed so–reality started biting back pretty fast. Rothschilds can not buy real hard power–it is beyond their price range, plus it cannot be bought by money alone–if they begin to recognize this, good for them. For the West? Well, it is a separate story.

  5. @Andrei Martyanov

    Excellent comment.

    “Modern” economics in a nutshell, really. He who owns the printing press, must do everything in order to make you use that paper as currency. Everything is in play: “backed by gold” fairytale, shitcoins, whatever. But in the end, it’s brute force that gives power to the pieces of paper we call money. So, you will use it, or else… be bombed in the name of democracy.

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  6. Anonymous[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    @Digital Samizat
    Saker is in here unironically gushing about how China, India, Russia no longer have imperial ambitions and how America will be the last empire on Earth, in the same breath that he celebrates Russia “freedom building” in Eastern Europe against the Eeeeevul Slavic Nazis (looks like he forgot what site he’s being hosted on again) and whacks off to completion at the thought of the coming “New New World Order” to be imposed by the Ind-Rus-Sino military bloc.
    He’s a retard who lives in opposite world, and I look forward to hearing the apologetics for the immanent wars of expansion, because when Eastern countries act exactly like America, that’s good, even though we hate America for being America.

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  7. Emmanuel Macron may see international geopolitics more clearly than some others, but France may soon be in no position to do much of anything internationally. I watch the French news almost every night. Earlier this week a group of mayors in the Seine Saint-Denis area north of Paris announced they were suing the government because children from that area weren’t doing as well on tests as chidren in other French areas. Alors, mes amis, welcome to black-white differential that has bedeviled American social policy since the 1960s, with the added flavor of hot-headed Arabs following a religion that tells them they’re better than the Français de souche. The French are in the process of recreating Detroit, Baltimore and East St. Louis just north of Paris and really should just rename the place Zimbabwe sur Seine.

    And there were riots and car burnings earlier this week in Quimper. Quimper! It’s a fairly small city in the Finistere region of France/Brittany, way out in the farthese western region of metropolitan France. Riots in Paris, Marseille, Lyons, or Toulouse are pretty standard stuff, but Quimper means the problem has really spread.

    Finally, police suicides are reaching record highs. Police are on the front lines of this breakdown of social order but increasingly receive little support.

    Macron’s vision of the relations between the U.S. and Russia/China/India may be clear, but I’m not sure he has a good idea of what’s transpiring in his own country.

  8. Saker is in here unironically gushing about how China, India, Russia no longer have imperial ambitions and how America will be the last empire on Earth, in the same breath that he celebrates Russia “freedom building” in Eastern Europe against the Eeeeevul Slavic Nazis (looks like he forgot what site he’s being hosted on again) and whacks off to completion at the thought of the coming “New New World Order” to be imposed by the Ind-Rus-Sino military bloc.

    Here’s the big difference. Russia wants friendly relations with nations but it has no desire to tell nations what to do in terms of domestic policy. It’s not trying to export Russian culture or Orthodox faith. In contrast, the ‘West’ seeks to turn every nation into a Negro-Homo-Schlomo worshiping nation. Big difference. Russian way is diplomacy. The ‘Western’ way is ‘dictatocy’. Even in terms of domestic values, the ‘west’ urges other nations to have ‘gay pride’ parades. ‘West’ will even use deploy-macy, like in the Middle East, mainly to serve Jewish interests.

    China is imperialist within China proper. Just ask the Tibetans. But outside China, it wants to do business. It has no interest in spreading ‘chinese values’ to other peoples.

  9. @A step forward, two steps back

    But in the end, it’s brute force that gives power to the pieces of paper we call money. So, you will use it, or else… be bombed in the name of democracy.

    Exactly. Once American military power mythology evaporated, so did US “credit history”. The only major reason, the only–there are others secondary ones–was the fact that US lost (in reality it never had it, bar some backward ME shitholes) the ability to force nations to do what it wants. Nowadays Turkey or India have no problems telling US to fvck off when the talk is about bottom line of national security of those nations. Consider this simple fact, not only Russia partially financed Turkish S-400 contract, but nothing, literally nothing, stand in a way of Russia and Turkey, Russia and India, not to speak of Russia and China trading in their own currencies. And they do. There goes US Dollar hegemony which rested primarily on the accurately cultivated perception of the rest of the world of the United States miltary’s ability to “defeat” anyone.

    • Replies: @Jazman
  10. @Diversity Heretic

    Catholic prophecy says that civil wars will break out in Italy, France, and England at roughly the same time before France restores its monarchy and that French Monarch will form an alliance with a powerful Pope and together they will achieve a miraculous victory in Germany over an invading Russia.

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  11. The international order is being shaken in an unprecedented manner, above all with, if I may say so, by the great upheaval that is undoubtedly taking place for the first time in our history, in almost every field and with a profoundly historic magnitude.

    Who can remember politicians being ejectable after having been a high school student who married his much older teacher and who was already married with children?

    Yes, when cradle-robbing adulteresses are allowed to prey upon a putative boy genius, well then…

  12. Saker

    I wish Christian Russia had ten times the amount of missiles in all categories of missiles…but this would require Vladimir Putin to take on the Central Banks…conquer them…change the Russian Constitution so as to allow Christian Russian to go into productive debt…….

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    , @Avery
  13. Giuseppe says:

    It shall be extremely interesting to see if this Normandy Format meeting does actually take place and what role, if any, Trump and the US will play behind the scenes. We shall then know if Macron’s epiphany was just a one-time fluke or not.

    Interesting indeed. I love reading the Saker best when he paints the strategic big picture, because he understands the Great Game like few others. If I were the president, I would want someone like him as NSA because he would provide invaluable information upon which great decisions could be made, not manipulate and backstab like Bolton. Alas, that will never happen, but at least we got rid of Bolton. So for awhile we can breathe easier, at least until the economy and the entire political order crashes and burns.

    • Agree: Andrei Martyanov
  14. Giuseppe says:

    By the way, what an arresting portrait of Macron, very Dickensian. He could have played Charles Darnay (and/or Sydney Carton), for instance, in A Tale of Two Cities.

    It is a far, far better thing that I do than I have ever done; it is a far, far better better rest I go to than I have ever known.

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  15. Was it such an amazing admission from Macron? After all, he is under pressure, and performing according to a Rothschild script.

    The so-called “end of Western hegemony over the world” seemed like it was surfacing as part of a deliberate plan, at least to some independent observers out there. Some noted that Rothschild had actually been moving a lot of gold into China in recent years, and with the Fed and the ECB coming to an end of another cycle and seeking a reset of some kind, and with the many manoevers of the last American administration to destroy the U.S. economy, it appears that the deep state was simply going to shift the seat of power into other geopolitical arenas it could harness and direct.

    But perhaps this will all be reduced to “nice try!” for the overarching elites, who might yet expire as the real plans of China gradually become clear. An historically insular country, China will always put its interests first, as does Russia. Now, there may still be some deep state players operating in China, still trying to hold onto the deals struck with Obama, but both Xi and Putin appear to have a confidence allied with a very different outlook.

  16. @Andrei Martyanov

    Thank you–

    Compelling poem. Not so folksy, but wise.

    Plutocracy versus thugocracy: the history of the world.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  17. hunor says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    I wrote that prophecy ! Do you believe me ?

  18. Anon[161] • Disclaimer says:

    The only reason the West ever had a hegemony is because the rest of the world keeps screwing up. We’ve won that hegemony–by default–because on the whole, we’re more competent, creative, smarter, and ethical than ALL other places on the planet.

    If the Chinese ever managed to be even half as competent as the Japanese, then maybe they’ll get somewhere, but right now, they’re a glorified India. Japan dug its way out of the ruin of World War II in one decade and shot ahead. But Mao died in 1975, 44 years ago, and China is still staggering under his weight and can’t escape it.

    With China, I’m afraid that what you see is what you get. They are operating at their maximum peak of biologically-fixed competency right now. So is Russia. Both are loaded with corrupt elites too greedy to think in terms of advancing the average citizens’ interests instead of their own personal interests. This is the ruin of states. This is how Africa runs. A greedy elite in charge that doesn’t care about its own people will NEVER make a great state.

    There’s an important point that needs to be made here. Greedy elites simply don’t care about competency, or creativity, or intelligence, or ethics, especially those things for their own sake. They laugh at them. They’re scornful of them. Greedy elites only care about money and power, and that’s it.

    Besides, if Macron really believed what he was saying, the rest of world wouldn’t be so eager to get to the US and Europe. They sure aren’t trying to flood into China and Russia.

  19. @SeekerofthePresence

    Not so folksy, but wise.

    It was credited to “unnamed” and as such spread among simple folk. Very well could be that it was written by more sophisticated person.

    Plutocracy versus thugocracy: the history of the world.

    As the bottom line, yes. In between the two humanity inserted civilization, culture that is, and those proverbial forms which, in Frank Herbert’s lingo, “must be obeyed”. In the end, real power trumps money. A popular phrase that one can always buy power doesn’t work in geopolitics, no matter the amount of money offered.

  20. @Anon

    We’ve won that hegemony–by default–because on the whole, we’re more competent, creative, smarter, and ethical than ALL other places on the planet.


    “The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values, or religion (to which few members of other civilizations were converted) but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”

    The Clash Of Civilizations And The Remaking Of World Order, Samuel P. Huntington, Simon and Schuster, NY, 1996. Page 51.

    I don’t expect you to understand history of the 20th century, especially its military-scientific part, but you need to update yourself a bit on the current events.

  21. onethree says:
    @Anon

    They sure aren’t trying to flood into China and Russia.

    That is something that Obama said a couple of years ago about Russia, that “no one tries to go to Russia, and everyone tries to come to the US”. Except that it isn’t true.

    There are millions of both legal and (unfortunately) illegal immigrants from mainly central Asia and the Caucasus living and working in Russia. Someone like you can not possibly know that, because you are simply in the business of repeating whatever your western “elites” say to you.

  22. @War for Blair Mountain

    I wish Christian Russia had ten times the amount of missiles in all categories of missiles…

    This is absolutely not necessary. Russia has enough forces, including missiles, to defend most of Eurasia. If Russia will extend her anti-missile shield to China (and there is talk about it now), that will limit pure military options for the United States even more, dramatically more.

    but this would require Vladimir Putin to take on the Central Banks…conquer them…

    This is misconception about modern Russia–Russian Central Bank, realistically, will do (and does) whatever Kremlin decides. Putin says jump, Nabiulina asks how high. Russia openly defies and rejects “recommendations” by IMF and the issue of Russian economy is not in the lack of capital–the opposite is true, Russia is awash in cash–but of the very real fear after the horror of 1990s of accelerating, inevitably, of inflationary processes once those gigantic sums are unloaded on economy. This, plus serious cadres’ issue–still, there are not enough truly competent people to properly appropriate those sums. These are real reasons for Russia not hitting those gigantic economic growth numbers, which everyone (wrongly) expects for some reason, since the whole method of calculating this growth is plain simple wrong. In terms of real economy, which is production, Russia still grows well. This is NOT reported in the West.

    • Replies: @FB
  23. Andrie

    And I would be really happy if there were 1,000 Panstir Systems in Syria…with highly trained crews….no make that 10,000 Panstirs…..but this may not be necessary if the US internally implodes right after Nov 3 2020…POTUS Election Night…

    Think Big!!!…..How do you say that in Russian?

    Andrie

    Over the weekend….I picked up a Russkie Kayaker Couple-exhausted and somewhat stranded on the Hudson in the Adirondacks…Drove them back to their base-camp in my SUV…They kayaked through NYs Grand Canyon….lots of category 4 rapids….The Male member of this Russian Kayaking Team:”I live 300 hundred miles from Moscow….This is why I really like the cold weather of the Adirondacks…I am used to it…and really like it…”

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  24. FB says: • Website
    @Andrei Martyanov

    This is misconception about modern Russia–Russian Central Bank, realistically, will do (and does) whatever Kremlin decides. Putin says jump, Nabiulina asks how high.

    LOLOLOL…

    This is ridiculous…Nabiullina answers to no one in Russia…she answers to the central banking ‘club’…which thinks very highly of her…

    The rest of your comment is equally misguided…yes, Russian fiscal finances are very strong as Jon Hellevig surmises in his comprehensive recent report…

    But the country badly needs very large infrastructure projects…along the lines of the Chinese model…build it and they will come…

    Many top notch real economists like PCR and others have been saying this for years…investing in transportation and industrial infrastructure is not inflationary, due to the multiplier effect that cascades down through all levels of the economy…

    The Chinese model is not the only one in history that has followed this path of cheap lending for massive projects…FDR did it with tremendous success starting in the depths of the 1930s depression with the Reconstruction Finance Corporation…which bypassed the private central bank system and raised its initial capital by selling bonds to the public…

    Sergei Glazyev, the antithesis of Nabiullina and the neoliberal cartel running Russian finance, advocates exactly the same thing…selling so-called ‘Stolipyn’ bonds to the public…the rest would come out of the public purse and also legislation such as with the RFC that would FORCE the central bank to make money available for the good of the economy…

    [A very good article comparing the FDR era initiative, which he wanted to extend worldwide as part of the Bretton Woods system…and the current Chinese BRI is by Mathew Ehret here…]

    There is no question that Russia is being held back by the completely independent central bank that was set up OUTSIDE THE RUSSIAN CONSTITUTION…by Goldman Sachs advisors in those ’90s that you lament…

    Russia and Putin are doing some things along those lines such as mortgage interest subsidies and other similar subsidies that come from the state budget…but a lot more needs to be done…especially in transportation and industrial infrastructure…

    In a previous report Hellevig talked about road infrastructure, on which a lot has been done in the last few years…but even with this new build up Russia still has only one tenth the expressway mileage that exists in the US…[of which most was built 50 or 60 years ago]

    That’s not to deny that a lot has been done…Moscow and St. Petersburg have seen a total makeover in recent years with investments of many billions…these metropolises are now gems…even some of the smaller cities have become shining examples…but a whole lot more needs to be done…

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  25. @Andrei Martyanov

    Excellent, nothing to add. Military capitalism to the fore.

  26. @FB

    Moscow and St. Petersburg have seen a total makeover in recent years with investments of many billions

    Visit Ekaterinburg, Vladivostok, Rostov-on-Don, Krasnodar or Sochi. then may be we’ll talk. Don’t write on subjects you have no idea about or have even remote awareness of.

    This is ridiculous…Nabiullina answers to no one in Russia…

    Yes, she also doesn’t live in Russia but on planet Zoltar and is totally independent of Kremlin. Dream on.

    • LOL: FB
    • Replies: @FB
    , @Jazman
  27. @War for Blair Mountain

    And I would be really happy if there were 1,000 Panstir Systems in Syria…with highly trained crews….no make that 10,000 Panstirs….

    Realistically, settlement around Syria, depends more on Russia’s diplomacy (granted, backed up by military power) than merely on the number of S1s. What many people fail to recall is that the number of Israeli attacks on Syria is dramatically down. For now, Russia is not going anywhere from Syria and a lot will depend on how Iran is handled.

  28. FB says: • Website
    @Andrei Martyanov

    I know of what I speak, pompous ass…having worked with the Russian aerospace sector for many years…

    Vostochny Cosmodrome is one example of a crucial infrastructure project that has been bogged down for years…now we hear that there has been all kinds of money siphoning going on and the prime contractor, some oligarch outfit that has no experience in the aerospace sector is going to get the boot…

    On top of that…Russia’s planned heavy launch system [based on the wold-beating RD-171 engine] is not going to be able to use Vostochny but will have to continue relying on Baikonur in Kazakhstan…the reason…rail tunnels and bridges that are too small to transport the large diameter rocket segments…

    This is idiotic…the entire Russian aerospace industry needs a huge infrastructure buildup…I have never seen so many talented specialists who are being held back by a lack of a plan [and funds] to build out this crucial sector…I could write much more about this from direct experience…unlike yourself who has not worked in Russia for who knows how long…

    And btw…I mentioned a lot of smaller cities that have also experienced a renaissance…so maybe you should learn to read what I write before going off half cocked…

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  29. @FB

    I know of what I speak, pompous ass…having worked with the Russian aerospace sector for many years…

    Oh, I am sure you consulted Russian defense industry too and, probably, secretly, of course, graduated VMA;-)) Or was it KAI? Have a nice Friday.

    • Replies: @FB
  30. @Andrei Martyanov

    A littl’ o’ th’ ol’ ultra-violence–just the ticket for the West…

  31. FB says: • Website
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Oh, I am sure you consulted Russian defense industry too and, probably, secretly, of course, graduated VMA;-)) Or was it KAI?

    Xa Xa Xa…I spent plenty of time working at the Gromov Flight Research Institute [where they wouldn’t let the likes of you past the front gate]…as well as the Institute’s Fedotov Test Pilot School, which trains students from all over the world, including the US…

    • Replies: @Herald
  32. Some say a new order of states is rising.
    Empire bleeds out in the muck of its pride.
    Is a new order or world war in offing?
    Dangerous times for those who law abide.

    “Course of Empire: Desolation” — Thomas Cole 1836

  33. Seraphim says:
    @Priss Factor

    One of the tenacious perceptions of the innate incapacity of the Chinks to be a great power is that expressed in the question: “Well, Chinese invented the gun powder. And what did they do with it? Instead of putting it to good use they made Fire-crackers!” (accompanied with a scoffing smile). Whereas We (the ‘White West’) put it to good use! Same with the compass, printing press, paper-money, etc.

    • Replies: @Dart
    , @Whitewolf
  34. Smith says:

    >As he put it himself “if weapons fall into the hands of ordinary people and especially nationalist-minded people, wait for terrorism“. He is quite right, of course.
    All that needs to be read! The Saker loves to bootlick, especially if it’s a Russian boot.

    ARM THE PEOPLE! The only terrorism come from the imperial states, Russia, China and the USA!

  35. @Giuseppe

    By the way, what an arresting portrait of Macron, very Dickensian.

    Get your vision checked. He looks like an NPC lining the fairway in a golf video game.

  36. Smith says:

    On the other hand, Macron jumps from EU stooge to “President Macron” just because he says nice things about Russia and wants to trade with Iran.

    Man, Saker has no fucking dignity, I have no doubt the Yellow vests are gonna be called full time CIA now.

    This shows the integrity of East ZOGers/Putinists.

    • LOL: Alfred
  37. @Andrei Martyanov

    The reason we’re so good at organized violence is our intelligence, creativity and conscientiousness. It also helps immensely that many of our fighters are sincere Protestant Christians–the Mandate of Heaven is the vitamin juice of your military. Like Chechens with Islam.

    Of course, the Empire is busily deconstructing all four elements. After all, that’s what Empires do.

  38. Dart says:
    @Seraphim

    The “white west” allowed a foreign elite to usurp control of their civilization and are going down without a fight. The Chinese would never be that dumb.

    • Agree: Ghan-buri-Ghan
  39. @The Anti-Gnostic

    The reason we’re so good at organized violence is our intelligence, creativity and conscientiousness.

    Actually as the WWII and post-WW II period have shown–not so much. Building shiny military toys and actually achieving political objectives of the war with them are two different things altogether. Just ask Koreans and Vietnamese, for a warmup. I stressed previously–XX Century is a key here, including this teeny-weeny fact of collapse of the colonial system.

    It also helps immensely that many of our fighters are sincere Protestant Christians–the Mandate of Heaven is the vitamin juice of your military. Like Chechens with Islam.

    LOL. This thing is taken directly from Pax American playbook and has zero relation to reality. This is not to mention the fact that even late Richard Pipes (among many others) correctly described Protestant societies as primarily commercial ones. The best military machine combined West ever produced was Wehrmacht and it was driven not by “Protestant Christians” but by completely different set of beliefs of mostly pagan nature, with some esoteric shit added to the mix. Per Chechens with Islam, you evidently missed last weeks marking of the 20th anniversary of namely Chechens and other Arab Wahhabi scum invading Dagestan areas–they were met by few Russian regular military and Dagestani militia much of which were also Muslims. They surely kicked the ass of well-armed, trained and indoctrinated Basaev’s gangs. Update yourself on basic facts.

  40. anon[832] • Disclaimer says:

    Can India with the domestic pull of the allure of violence,jingoism, demonization, and sectarianization as foolproof method of grabbing power by the political parties ,can ever add to the humanity or the world peace ? World is nit India’s play ground But the claim is there to ensure it has a play ground for the rich inside India. By claiming big power status and reminding every Indian of its role , Indian elite throw wools over the eyes of the Indian poor and over the eyes of the confused hostile belligerent racist middle class .

    India until it starts some domestic program to improve the lot of the poor and until it frees itself from the clutches of US-Israel , India has no viable role to play . It can destroy the emerging positive change in the world from inside. It can be as subversive as is todays’ Brazil is . BJP is party of rich In rain diaspora and domestic business community who support the exalted position of the RSS echelons . These two use Muslim and Christian as threat to keep the country on war footing whose only purpose is to enslave more Indians ( Hindus mostly ) who are given a false sense of belonging to a great nation .

  41. @The Anti-Gnostic

    You’re tripping over particulars.

    So if the United States not winning (as in Korea) wars or losing them all in post WWII period are mere “particulars” not a larger and well established pattern, then sure. Let’s just call it that–tripping over particulars.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
  42. peterAUS says:

    This online pub is getting….interesting.

    We, finally, got a “special” moderation when “gun” talk is concerned.

    Then, the level of self-delusion got at the next level. Now, we are aware that TPTBs and their “prog” part in particualar, are masters of self-delusion, but the “alt” is getting better at that.
    Magatards are ramping up their effort.

    Russian vector of Anti-Empire is catching up with this piece nicely.
    Listening what that…ahm….character…Macron is saying. Macron, of all people. Desperate.

    As for that mantra “US hasn’t won war since WW2” I’ll pass that to my Serb friends here tonight over the usual beer in the real pub down the road.
    They’ll just love it. Hearing they won that “Kosovo conflict”. Obviously.

    Surreal..

    • Replies: @TheTotallyAnonymous
  43. A123 says:

    The international order is being shaken in an unprecedented manner, above all with, if I may say so, by the great upheaval that is undoubtedly taking place for the first time in our history, in almost every field and with a profoundly historic magnitude. The first thing we observe is a major transformation, a geopolitical and strategic re-composition. We are undoubtedly experiencing the end of Western hegemony over the world.

    How self absorbed can someone be? Oh. Wait… This is an elite Globalist from France/Germany. The dark narcissistic heart of Axis Europe. Someone needs to fit Macron for his Vichy era Brown Shirt, so he can strut about in it proudly.

    What’s next for narcissistic Globalism. At least Macron is protecting the French people. Oh… Wait… Again… Macron is enlisting Muslims as pseudo-police officers to beat Christian, Yellow Vest, French citizens who want to keep their jobs.

    The Saker/Macron fallacy is that, “The West = Islamic Globalism”. Reality shows that the exact opposite is true.

    A Christian Alliance derived from the successes of WW II is coming. The Christian U.S., U.K., and Russia in common cause supporting Christian values. The Axis powers of France and Germany are dhimmi slave nations that have surrendered to Islamic Fascism and National Socialism. Once, again the followers of Jesus Christ will discard Axis Islam into the waste bin of history. Hopefully, they will stay there this time.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anonymous
    , @bluedog
  44. Lagertha says:

    he married his 7th grade teacher! What kind of guy does that? – a fucking weirdo…someone who loves stasis more than the philosophers the past, like, fuck, 3000+ years? Is it ass or smarts? The world waits, regardless. I hate the world!

  45. JoannF says:

    I like it. Macron is an aspiring middle-management clerk who can wear a suit – of course he needs to show that he tries to think for himself, that he understands how important primate alpha business is conducted. While idle soothsayers try to spin his deliberations into Delphic dimensions. Too much honor.

  46. El Dato says:
    @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    > Powerful Pope

    Expect PowerPope, get PowerPoint.

    > A miraculous victory in Germany over an invading Russia.

    Teutonic knights are so yesterday.

  47. You are very naïve if you think that France, et al, are just now figuring out that the West’s Hegemony is over. This was not something that just happened but rather orchestrated. 9/11 ushered in a new era on purpose.

    These people know exactly what is going on. Evelyn de Rothschild, himself, has made it clear in several interviews that “ASIA IS THE FUTURE”. He also has stated that he is very supportive of this move. And it’s always interesting to listen to these people when they say things like China “is a remarkable” country and story.

    The United States was set up to do all the dirty business of invasions and bailing the banks out. We the people pay the price.

    MACRON IS A MOUTHPIECE FOR ROTHSCHILD – his job, like the many other Western leaders is to help keep the masses in line, while the wealth of the nations is completed looted.

    “The last official act of any Government, is to the Loot the Nation”. – Michael Rivero

  48. El Dato says:

    The translation is a bit off as Macron is not as direct in his original statements.

    “sans doute” (literally “without doubt”) is actually weakening a speaker’s statement, as it signifies “presumably”, “in my opinion” etc.

    Thus:

    International order is being shaken in an unprecedented manner, above all with, if I may say so, a great upheaval that is quite likely taking place for the first time in history, in almost every field and with a profoundly historic magnitude. The first thing we observe is a major transformation, a geopolitical and strategic re-composition. We are presumably experiencing the end of Western hegemony over the world. We got used to an international order which, since the 18th century, rested on a Western hegemony, likely French in the 18th century, by the inspiration of the Enlightenment; presumably British in the 19th century thanks to the Industrial Revolution and, finally, arguably American in the 20th century thanks to the 2 great conflicts and the economic and political domination of this power.

  49. @Andrei Martyanov

    The best military machine combined West ever produced was Wehrmacht and it was driven not by “Protestant Christians” but by completely different set of beliefs of mostly pagan nature, with some esoteric shit added to the mix. 

    This is wrong on so many levels …

    Martin van Creveld has described the phenomenon exhaustively, he is not alone in his differing view.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  50. Tom Welsh says:

    ‘…Germany is collapsing under the weight of Merkel’s “brilliant” immigration policy while the UK under BoJo is busy trying to self-destruct at least as fast as the US under Trump’.

    Rather harsh, Saker – and, I think, rather superficial.

    Consider. What is Merkel’s “brilliant” immigration policy? To open the floodgates and let all manner of foreigners from the ends of the Earth come streaming into Europe.

    And what is Johnson’s policy? Brexit. Why do we want Brexit? To restore the UK to its thousand-year-old status as an independent sovereign nation, especially with reference to border control.

    Johnson is being heavily criticized as a “racist”, just because he wants to control the flow of immigration into a country that already has over four times as many inhabitants as it can support in the long term. http://data.footprintnetwork.org/#/

    Thus Merkel’s immigration policy is the exact opposite of Johnson’s. Personally, I think Johnson – in spite of his public image – is doing the right thing.

    • Replies: @Archangel
    , @Curmudgeon
  51. Bruno says:

    The picture is a crappy fake because there are 2 Rothschild banks in France :

    Rothschild ans Company wich is an investment bank where Macron was a young partner doing M&A

    And LCF E. De Rothschild wich is a mostly Wealth management bank were he has never worked.

    The picture is with an LCF background. Completely fake and that weakens a lot the article credibility, wants it or not.

  52. Tom Welsh says:

    “…Russia does not want to needlessly offend anybody…”

    That’s reasonable. But after all, does the stag worry about needlessly offending the tiger? The only two relations that come into consideration between those two animals are the tiger’s appetite and the stag’s hooves and antlers.

    It seems to me true that the Russian leaders are extremely courteous and civil in their statements. But I am reminded of the (Western) story about the man who is rebuked by a woman because he opens a door for her.

    “I did not do it because you are a lady, but because I am a gentleman”.

    • LOL: FB
    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  53. Tom Welsh says:
    @Anonymous

    “…looks like he forgot what site he’s being hosted on again…”

    Congratulations on insulting the author and the blog owner in one breath.

    Of course your malicious insinuation is unfounded. But I hope Mr Unz or his representatives have taken note of it.

    Ironic, when we have been marvelling at the Russians’ remarkable courtesy.

  54. Tom Welsh says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    “Le fer et l’or” is a fascinating little poem. At first sight it expresses a simple truism – that brute force trumps wealth. For centuries the Western and Eastern Roman emperors paid off the northern barbarian hordes with (literally) tons of gold and silver. Then, one day, the barbarians reasoned among themselves and said, “Why don’t we just conquer those people and take ALL their treasure?” So they did.

    But what if the gold secretly hires those who wield the iron? That seems to be what has happened in the West, and of course notoriously in Washington. For well over 100 years the USA’s armed forces have been at the disposal of American finance and manufacturing.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  55. Anonymous[477] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    With China, I’m afraid that what you see is what you get. They are operating at their maximum peak of biologically-fixed competency right now.

    Nowhere near. Honestly, they’re just starting. Biologically, they’ve got the same innate potential as any other arctic race. Culturally speaking, the majority of their people are still trapped in the socially retarded mainland.

    Communism was a great leap backwards for the Chinese, but they’re really starting to emerge from it. I expect to see similarly impressive progress over the next 20 years, which will get them to a position well in advance of the West. After that, let’s see what happens.

    • Replies: @JoannF
  56. @Erebus

    I suppose you may, like many UR commenters use “Rothschild” in a merely metaphorical or symbolic sense, but it would be interesting to know if you can tell us something interesting about such of the many descendants of Mayer Amschel Rothschild who work in the money business. If so you might care to consider this excerpt from a snopes.com piece as a starting point:

    In 2015, the Rothschild Group’s annual revenue was approximately $500 million. In comparison, the world’s largest company, Walmart, has an annual revenue of nearly $500 billion.

    It should also be noted that only one member of the Rothschild family is included among Forbes’ 2015 list of the world’s billionaires: Benjamin de Rothschild, who was ranked at number #1121 with a net worth of $1.61 billion.

    While the Rothschild family certainly was one of the world’s most significant financial powers in centuries past, they no longer wield the same sort of influence over global affairs.

    © 1995 – 2019 by Snopes Media Group Inc.

    • Replies: @ababush
    , @Where-Wolf
  57. Anonymous[477] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    By claiming big power status and reminding every Indian of its role , Indian elite throw wools over the eyes of the Indian poor and over the eyes of the confused hostile belligerent racist middle class .

    Right. India’s too internally dysfunctional to be a world leader.

    Even if they could magically crystallise out a new national philosophy that allowed them to work together efficiently, how long would it take to attenuate the effects of decades of runaway breeding by the lower castes?

    India is not China. In many ways, it’s its polar opposite.

    • Agree: Alden
  58. @Priss Factor

    China is imperialist within China proper. Just ask the Tibetans. But outside China, it wants to do business. It has no interest in spreading ‘chinese values’ to other peoples.

    … For now. Historically, that used to be true of America as well. I vaguely recall some fellow named Washington warning against foreign alliances or some such.

    The traditional Chinese name for “China” is “All Under Heaven” (or more idiomatically translated, “The Universe”). You may have seen it written in the popular Chinese film “Hero” (2002), though if you have, you also may not know it. The film ends with the dying Hero calling for China to conquer all the world. However, this looked too imperialistic for Western audiences, so the official translation rendered it as “Our Country” instead. Not exactly wrong, just as long as you know that “Our Country” means “The Universe” in Chinese tradition.

    I would be very surprised if China doesn’t become overtly imperialist in the future. Of course, they aren’t making such claims now; they’re too smart for such bluster when they are still only a regional power. But as China grows and the West declines (if it doesn’t collapse altogether), this will change.

    Alas, there’s nothing we can do about that now. We have our hands full with our own internal problems, and then some. I’m just advising to keep this in mind.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  59. But the single most amazing event of the past couple of weeks was the absolutely astonishing speech French President Emmanuel Macron made in front of an assembly of ambassadors.

    Single most amazing? Absolutely astonishing? I fell for this bait of unjustified superlatives and was disappointed.

    This pompous French president – who is deservedly very unpopular among the vast majority of France’s citizenry – merely reading a prepared speech, with cryptic innuendo open to interpretation, in which he acknowledges facts that most among his listeners have known for years, is hardly the alleged revelation the author of this article suggested.

    Did he at least launch a new diplomatic initiative or propose a bold new plan? I did not discern it. This is just the same kind of lofty talk one hears every January at the WEF in Davos. Perhaps the author, who appears to be fawning at Macron’s well know Napoleonic complex, could have reported if he required a Teleprompter for his delivery, or more importantly, what Château Rothschild vintage was being served, and what choices of hors d’oeuvres the diplomats could choose from, since that was surely the more delightful part of the formal event.

    Macron does not appear to be the important international player he would wish of himself; he was not even able to convince Trump to have a personal meeting, even if only a first encounter and photo opportunity, with Iran’s Zarif (who studied in San Francisco and Denver), when this foreign minister made a surprise visit, upon invitation, at his own recently hosted G7 event in Biarritz – because the hysterically paranoid Netanyahu simply would not allow it.

    Maybe the highest status Macron might aspire to, if he works on it, is to become the de-facto leader of Africa.

    . . . . . . .

    Furthermore:
    Quote in Comment #28:

    Vostochny Cosmodrome is one example of a crucial infrastructure project that has been bogged down for years…now we hear that there has been all kinds of money siphoning going on and the prime contractor, some oligarch outfit that has no experience in the aerospace sector is going to get the boot…

    Bogged down? What a polite way to allude to a spectacular boondoggle and scandal. Russians already had a functioning cosmodrome in Svobodny, which they mothballed because it was no longer deemed necessary in light of a long term lease agreement in Balkonur, Kazakhstan, much farther south, and Plesetsk Cosmodrome, farther north, which is ideal for launching their satellites into Moliniya orbits. They also have a joint agreement with ESA for using Korou, located near the equator. Yet only a few years later some smart-heads decided that Russia needed to build a completely new facility from scratch, not very far away from Svobodny, and thus the corruption began.

    By comparison, it would have been much smarter for Russia to have completely abandoned its huge naval base in Kaliningrad Oblast and moved its remaining population to a new facility in the Karelian Isthmus to enhance the infrastructure in that part of Russia, closer to St. Petersburg.

  60. Herald says:
    @FB

    Xa Xa Xa…I spent plenty of time working at the Gromov Flight Research Institute [where they wouldn’t let the likes of you past the front gate]…as well as the Institute’s Fedotov Test Pilot School, which trains students from all over the world, including the US…

    So bloody what! It certainly didn’t do much to improve your demeanour.

  61. @anon

    I think you are on to something. The corrupt Indian Elites have moved to America and are running their racket in the Nation I was born and raised in. I very much suspect that they are in for a very rude awakening…….

  62. @Andrei Martyanov

    Andrie

    What’s the story on the Dagestanis….They pretty much keep to themselves?…Potentially vulnerable to Wahhabism?…Or do they want to be left alone so they can wrestle all day?

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  63. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    At least Macron has some sense of reality and recognizes what many people sees .

    Plato said there were five regimes in the evolution of societies :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato%27s_five_regimes

    I don`t remember where I read this enlarged version of Plato `s regimes in which each step , or regime , represents a certain level of decadence in relation with the previous level , what do you think ?

    1. Theocracy , foundational societies , God is the model , the city of God .

    2. Clericalism , the clergy , the Church is the model

    3. Monarchy , the Kings are the model , they claim authority delegated by God , civilian society

    4. Aristocracy , the noble , the aristocrats are the model , humanism , protestantism ,
    enlightement ,

    5. Bourgeoisie , the bourgeois is the model , revolutions , french revolution , partial rejection
    of God , liberalism , socialism , plutocracy

    6 . Socialism/ comunism , the model is the worker , socialism , communisn , soviet revolution ,
    , laicist Governments , aheists Governments , total rejection of God , Governments become
    godlike .

    7 . The rabbles regime , the rabbles are the model , anarchy , unlimited non deserved entitlements , vulgarity , uglines , aberrations , deification of the rabbles and of the Governments , inversion of values , the city of Satan .

    8 . Collapse .

    • Replies: @Erebus
  64. Skeptikal says:
    @John Regan

    I don’t see how anyone can overlook the issue of the huge Chinese population, stuffed into a (relatively) small space. When compared to, say, Russia . . .

    It seems quite possible that eventually Chinese will just “move” west into “empty” lands in the Russian Far East. Sort of like colonists moving into western lands of the North American continent—and they didn’t care what the British Crown thought of it. They just wanted land.

    Such expansion wouldn’t have to be part of any official imperial ambition, but just a fact of life on a crowded, heating-up planet. The question would then become who reins in such unofficial expansion, or whether it gets reined it at all.

  65. ababush says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    As you seem to have a good knowledge about it, could you tell to which extent:

    – the Rothschild have a say with BIS decisions?
    – the Rothschild have a say with central banks around the world?

    Thanks

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  66. Russia yes, India maybe, but China a “normal ” nation? BS.

    • Replies: @MLK
  67. ababush says:
    @Anon

    Greedy elites only care about money and power, and that’s it.

    Yes, Macron is a disaster for the french and for France.

    “What should be our priority? Let me reiterate that I believe that the main, key development factor is the well-being of the people and the prosperity of Russian families….We consider every person important and valuable. People need to know that they are needed, and they must live a long and healthy life and enjoy their grandchildren and great-grandchildren. They need to see their children grow up and become successful in a powerful, rapidly developing and successful country that is attaining new development levels.” Vladimir Putin

  68. MLK says:

    Not to put too fine a point on it but, you’re confused.

    What saliently ended was the United States’s UniPolar Moment. Only in hindsight can we now see the drip drip stops along the way beginning after the first Gulf War.

    It’s a downright embarrassing story given that it was truly a moment. The post-Cold War UniPolar Moment was all of a quarter century — a blink of an eye in geopolitical terms — and that’s being generous with the math.

    The crisis in the West, centered in the US itself, has been evident to an ever greater degree in our memory-holing of that sad story. At this point, for pretty much everyone across the political/ideological spectrum it’s as if this quarter century never happened. After all, why make a Governing Elite — the entirety of the establishment Governing Class, feel even worse about themselves!

    For years now they’ve all subscribed to Scarlett O’Hara’s “I don’t want to think about that right now. I’ll go crazy if I do. I’ll think about it tomorrow.”

    It really is quite simple, and no amount of foot-stomping or distraction exercises (like this one) will change it: Hands down, CCP China won the post-Cold War quarter century.

    So thoroughly, during the Obama years, and in anticipation of Hillary to follow, those I refer to as Globalist Filth began openly talking about the U.S.’s coming place as a second-rate power in every respect (economically; geopolitically; culturally . . . .).

    Like it or not, Trump represents a sharp break and resurgence of the American Project and its position in the world. Just as years, which became decades of ever more disconnected Hegemonies monkey drum banging during following the Cold War was a tell, so is the current ‘His administration is a distinction without a difference’ narrative.

    I started reading you closely during the Obama years for insight into Putin/Russia’s strategy. I had agreed from the beginning with George Kennan on the catastrophic error that was NATO Expansion. It devolved in the late stages into a reflective anti-Russia cover for China’s rise.

    Astoundingly, Russia has recaptured a leveraged place geopolitically. But in my view this is wholly misunderstood at the moment. The Obama years was the height of a downright seditious (from the US perspective) strategy of driving Russia into an ever stronger alliance with China.

    Think about it — what does it say about a global governing class/elite that it blows a gasket and weaves fairy conspiracy theories every time the USG/POTUS attempts to talk to any state/ruler to reduce tensions and resolve issues short of war?

    Trump has brilliantly spent the two plus years since he took the oath methodically laying the predicate for fruitful negotiations for the post-post-Cold War era. It’s well past the time for you and your Russia -interested readers to begin thinking of what chips Putin/Russia will finally cash in. You’re making a big mistake if you think that Putin/Russia have decided to become junior to Xi/China.

    An important similarity between Trump and Putin is that Putin was the originator of what could be called the non-sneaky/not disingenuous/or too-cute-by-half foreign policy. Exemplified in the Middle East, wherein Putin/Russia had/has working relations with all relevant parties. Not simply the self-defeating in the end dichotomy of “Allies and Enemies” a corrupt and out of ideas American National Security State and foreign policy establishment had consigned us to.

    China ran the string as long as it could on what had become our delusional continued belief in our hegemony. POTUS Trump put an end to that. This is unforgivable for the Globalists, Macron included.

    • Replies: @Erebus
  69. DH says:

    Saint Pope and Grand Monarch, or another one? Sources svp

  70. Avery says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    {I wish Christian Russia had ten times the amount of missiles….}

    As was pointed out by other posters, Russia has more than enough military capability and hardware for its national security needs, and then some.

    What Russia really needs is 2x-3x more Christian Russians (or Slavs) in Russia.
    Russia has enough engineers, scientists and and highly educated people to produce all sorts of excellent, functional, utilitarian weapons and weapons systems. In any quantities it needs. Russia has enough natural wealth on its massive land for a 1,000+ years. But what it needs most of all is more people. Kremlin is doing what it can to encourage families with multiple children, but one thing governments – everywhere – have had a difficult time with is convincing their citizens to have children*.

    Without a healthy (numberswise) population base, everything else is for naught.

    _________________________________________
    * Example: “Italy’s birthrate has been far below replacement rate for years.”

    [More Italian Women Are Choosing to Have No Children]
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/more-italian-women-are-choosing-to-have-no-children-1398129172

  71. Erebus says:
    @Anon

    Plato nailed it. The West forgot it.
    More accurately, the West couldn’t avoid forgetting what every other society forgot.

  72. Erebus says:
    @MLK

    It was but a Uni-polar moment because the two great powers were in fact in a race to the bottom. The USSR got there first. The West went on a diet of methedrine and so has continued to thrash about a little longer.

    Russia, by collapsing first now carries the advantage. Its “Collapse now, and avoid the rush” strategy is already paying dividends and will continue paying through the coming decades.

    • Replies: @MLK
  73. MLK says:
    @isthatright

    . . . but China a “normal ” nation? BS.

    I agree. China’s rise has really been lifting 100m Han out of Mao’s madness to Middle Class and above.

    It’s a real pickle for the CCP in that those 100m think and want to live like their global peers.

    Their Belt/Road Initiative is a sign of CCP weakness, not strength in that it constitutes the Chinese economy’s inability to grow internally the way the US after The Civil War and well into the 20th C. China is tapped out, with astounding levels of debt that will never be paid back, and in a dollar-starved position courtesy of POTUS Trump.

    China is currently admired by those I call Globalist Filth because of the CCP’s seeming control. What’s not to love by the Governing Class wherever they darken somebody’s door?!

    But, mark my words, the Governing Elite everywhere is about to get a lesson in governance. Coercion is expensive. Technological innovations, such as the current surveillance state. don’t change that. Legitimacy and the consent of the governed should, obviously, be preferred but the cost of it isn’t even close.

  74. The zionists will never quit their subversion of the Ukraine and will never stop the war with the break away Donbass, as this is what zionists do , they wreck and subvert and destroy countries and humanity for the goal of a satanic zionist NWO !

    In regards to MH 17, it was in reality MH 370 and had the corpses of MH 370 on board when the Ukraine shot it down over the Ukraine, this is one of the best kept secrets, the zionists were involved in this destruction of MH 370 up to their eyeballs as usual.

    • Replies: @acementhead
  75. Archangel says:
    @Tom Welsh

    Immigration played a decisive role in the choice of Brexit. But Boris Johnson, seconded by Sajid Javid and Priti Patel, has just announced that he wants to enable all university graduates to stay in the UK if they find a job. Restricting immigration is not in the agenda. Sadly.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  76. @peterAUS

    As for that mantra “US hasn’t won war since WW2” I’ll pass that to my Serb friends here tonight over the usual beer in the real pub down the road.
    They’ll just love it. Hearing they won that “Kosovo conflict”. Obviously.

    Surreal..

    Well, I don’t know where The Saker claimed that the USA hasn’t won a war since WW2, but the USA’s military record post-1945 hasn’t been one of the best compared to others in recorded history.

    As for the 1999 Kosovo War, it’s one thing to win a war by defeating the enemy on the battlefield through the force of arms, while it’s quite another to win through non-military means of politics and terrorizing civilians. In the 1999 Kosovo War, the USA won because of the latter 2 reasons. This applies to other wars in general, as there also exist many other non-military means that decide the outcomes of wars or decisively shape them.

    Anyway, if you don’t mind telling me, are your Serb friends that you “hang out” with at your pub all VRS and other military vets from the 1990’s, or are there some civilians or others there as well?

  77. @Avery

    You can thank Bill and Hillary Clinton…..and Harvard’s (((JEFFREY SACH’S DISEASE))) for the collapse of the Russian Population during the 1990’s…PURE-UNADULTURATED-WHITE GENOCIDE!!!!!…….Talk about Foreign Interference in a Nations Affairs…

    How many Russians died because of US CLINTON (((NEOLIBERAL INTERFERENCE IN RUSSIA))) during the 1990’s….This number would include Russians who died directly from deprivation+the number of Russians who were never born due to deprivation…….Got be at least SIX MILLION….don’t you think so?

    I blame AIPAC and the ADL for the collapse of the Russian Population during the Clinton years….gotta be at least SIX MILLION!!!!

  78. @Skeptikal

    It seems quite possible that eventually Chinese will just “move” west into “empty” lands in the Russian Far East.

    That scenario also features in Jean Raspail’s book The Camp Of The Saints.

  79. MLK says:
    @Erebus

    Its “Collapse now, and avoid the rush” strategy . . .

    That’s very funny, actually. While it’s become conventional wisdom, especially since the global financial meltdown, that the US is one crisis away from collapse, I wholly disagree.

    As my earlier email alluded, the phase we entered coincident with (and because of) POTUS Trump is a bursting of the China Dream. So much of establishment opinion and analysis assumes a linear continuation of trends in force. Thus it’s assumed China will continue to rise and the US continue to fall (relative to China).

    • Replies: @Erebus
  80. @ababush

    My knowledge, such as it is, is not up to date, but it seems reasonable to suppose that the influence of all old banking families has declined over recent decades. And I do not understand the input of Rothschilds still involved in banking has ever been great in relation to the Bank of International Settlements , owned by about 60 central banks and not, as far as I am aware ever having been involved in smart money making schemes or major pushing for chsnges in government policies. As to influence on central banks I see no way it could be more than peripheral. Some of the nutters who go on endlessly about fiat money probably also invoke the name of Rothschild and suppose that central bank sre owned and controlled privately when in fact even a nominal shareholding by non state investors is rare and circumscribed in power.

    • Replies: @ababush
  81. Che Guava says:

    Given Angela Merkhin’s (mis-spelling intended) and her father’s political history in the DDR, I think the idea that she is a kind of Manchurian candidate is very plausible.

    She was a rising star in the SED (Socialist Unity Party), photographed when young on platforms with the leader, Albrecht, IIRC, at the time. She already had cankles by then, but wasn’t grossly fat.

    People should not forget that several of the ‘people’s democracies’ really did have multi-party systems, most notably the DDR and Poland.

    I found a great site with a wealth of details on her and her father’s careers (and pretty sure I posted the link here, so it is still so, but neglecting to make a bookmark for me), he was an ultra-liberal priest who decided to cross from the FDR to the DDR to become a leading apparatchik of ‘the living church’ in the DDR. This useless concept, originating with the Jewish Bolsheviks, had already been suppressed by Stalin in the USSR, possibly only to win their Great Patriotic War, possibly because he had been a seminarian before he ever joined the RSLDP.

    I return to Merkhin. She always makes these weird hand gestures when she speaks. The triangles are very odd.

    Lately, like Killary, she goes into uncontrollable shaking.

    I am not saying that she is a Manchurian candidate in terms of response to words or symbols, but that she is an extreme idealogue, on the level of Atari Teenage Riot in terms of idiocy, and wants to just destroy her nation. It is reflexive, and logical given her, and her father’s, background.

    • Replies: @Alden
  82. ” every single British Prime Minister since Margaret Thatcher (maybe with special commendation for Teresa May). ”

    Ah, Saker. Blair.

    • Replies: @Republic
  83. Republic says:
    @Bill Jones

    History will not look too kindly on that war criminal Blair

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  84. Wally says:
    @Skeptikal

    Seriously?
    Look around, the Chinese are already everywhere in great numbers.

    said:
    “Such expansion wouldn’t have to be part of any official imperial ambition, but just a fact of life on a crowded, heating-up planet. ”

    LOL. What heating-up?

    Now 400 Scientific Papers in 2017 Say ‘Global Warming’ Is a Myth: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/24/delingpole-now-400-scientific-papers-in-2017-say-global-warming-is-a-myth/
    Most Massive Scientific Fraud In Human History: https://principia-scientific.org/most-massive-scientific-fraud-in-human-history/
    Record High Temperatures in France: 3 Facts the Media Don’t Tell You: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/07/02/record-high-temperatures-in-france-3-facts-the-media-dont-tell-you/
    100% Of US Warming Is Due To NOAA Data Tampering: https://realclimatescience.com/100-of-us-warming-is-due-to-noaa-data-tampering/

  85. @Tom Welsh

    Removing itself from the EUSSR is one thing, what happens after is something quite different. Not my PM, but I think Johnson is less than brilliant. I suspect the “Friends of Israel” of all the political parties post Brexit, will have complete control of the situation.

  86. @byrresheim

    Martin van Creveld has described the phenomenon exhaustively, he is not alone in his differing view.

    I am not interested in Martin Van Creveld’s views on that or, for that matter, any military issue, even if he “is not alone”.

    • Replies: @byrresheim
    , @anon
  87. Oracle says:

    If this is/was an Anglo Zionist empire, why have the most powerful Zionists set out to destroy it? If they are such perceptive realists? Why did they start trends—to later take advantage of—if those trends interfered with what were their long term interests? Surely multicultural/transgender-chaos must be bad for business. Also, China isn’t going to let the Zionists into the sandbox as they have been imagining. For one thing, the Zionists are much more difficult to disguise in a Chinese society.

  88. @Tom Welsh

    But what if the gold secretly hires those who wield the iron?

    I already answered this question. In modern age it is simply impossible on the level of major and super-powers. E.g. the United States doesn’t have enough “currency” to buy Russia, or China, for that matter. Just gold (money) alone is not enough. On that level one trades in power arrangements which rest on actual (kinetic) power of the nation-state. This truism is completely lost on current US “elites” who are profoundly ignorant of the nature of power and how it forms. It is expected from people who have degrees in journalism, political science, sociology and law. This is precise category which populates top echelons of power in the West.

  89. sally says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    my question is what happened to the idea that the state was suppose to keep the economic environment safe for, and accessible to competition.. Everyone is talking about capitalism as if it were economic Zionism; but there is a major difference.. Properly supervised economic environments produce capitalism not economic zionism.

    Capitalism is supervised according to rules of fair play and the supervisor acts to prevent the environment from becoming lopsided by monopoly powers or monopoly activities, its products are inventions that are developed to meet demand and the industry that invents is king captain until the next invention. As capitalism flourishes it distributes the better quality of life to to all persons (in a sense its a sharing by all of society of the inventions that produce the capitalist successes).

    Economic Zionism on the other hands, is closed society, business partners with government and the leaders of government write laws and make rules that deny new competitors. These laws take from inventors their inventions, instead of allowing the inventor to develop his invention. The economic environment is highly skewed by monopoly powers, anti-competitive laws, and take and keep all no matter what. Economic Zionism takes from everyone, everything and gives absolutely nothing back.. Economic Zionism refuses to allow new competitors and refuses to allow others to own anything that might be used to produce a competitive enterprise at some later date.. Capitalism is more local and competition is widely encouraged, while EZ denies everyone but itself.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
    , @DaveE
  90. @War for Blair Mountain

    Dear AIPAC and ADL

    J’ACCUSE GENOCIDE IN RUSSIA!!!!!!!

    Think about it……..

  91. @Diversity Heretic

    Maybe because Rothschilds aren’t particularly interested in France, that rapidly descends into insignificance.

  92. @Mick Jagger gathers no Mosque

    Man, that’s something to put even Nostradamus BS prophecies to shame. Congrats!

  93. @Tom Welsh

    It seems to me true that the Russian leaders are extremely courteous and civil in their statements.

    Putin is polite, but he mercilessly trolls the West, France included. Remember French fiasco with helicopter carriers Mistral that France refused to deliver to Russia because of Crimea? Russia got the design, not to mention lots of money for breach of contract, from France. Where do you think Russia is now building its own helicopter carriers? In Kerch, Crimea. If that’s not trolling, I don’t know what is.

    • Replies: @Wally
  94. RI says:

    China and India…I think that this medicine will kill us faster than our Western disease will.
    Western Europe, Eastern Europe, USA, and Russia should unite, that is the right medicine.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  95. It seems to me that both the Chinese and Indians are poised perfectly for empires. Between their overseas investments and loyal natives immigrating to strategic countries, they are currently building a worldwide human infrastructure. Given the two countries don’t get along very well, maybe the next world war won’t be European? As for the Rothschilds, they’re just buttering up a couple targets for their one world nightmare. One would think Russia would be wise enough to avoid it. .

  96. Wally says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Good for Russia. In that case I hope they do more “trolling”.

  97. Alden says:
    @Che Guava

    Back when E Germany was occupied by the Russians every E German claimed the Lutheran clergy were nothing more than soviet operatives acting as shepherds and cowboys for the herds of ordinary people.

    An amazing number of the clergy died and or disappeared at the end of the war and in the late 40s when the Russians took control. Then they were replaced by clergy like Merkel’s father.
    As soon as I read about his defection to the soviet sector I knew she’s a Manchurian candidate, second generation, born and bred.

    In America we have 3rd generation communist White hating families Leonard, Kathy and Chesa Boudin. Unlike Kathy Boudin, at least Merkel doesn’t have children to carry on the family trade of destruction thanks be to God.

  98. ababush says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I think you miss some informations.
    The Fed being “owned” by regional Fed, and the regional Feds having private shareholders, the Fed is a private bank. As is the England central bank, the French one etc etc

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  99. @sally

    Capitalism is supervised according to rules of fair play and the supervisor acts to prevent the environment from becoming lopsided by monopoly powers or monopoly activities,

    This is not my experience and while I readily admit to possibility of some “fair play” environments somewhere, judging by the astonishing speed of US de-industrialization–the only “supervision” of the state eventually is diluted and then subverted by capital by means of utter corruption of political institutes. The only thing “capitalism” knows is profit. It doesn’t matter that some exceptions merely confirm the rule. Bottom line rules and it is in the foundation of current existential crisis of the combined West.

    • Replies: @Malla
  100. @RI

    Western Europe, Eastern Europe, USA, and Russia should unite, that is the right medicine.

    Impossible at this stage precisely for the reasons of the combined West stopping being West. It had a chance, it blew it royally. As Alexander Blok wrote 101 years ago:

    But we shall keep aloof from strife,
    No longer be your shield from hostile arrow,
    We shall just watch the mortal strife
    With our slanting eyes so cold and narrow.
    Unmoved shall we remain when Hunnish forces
    The corpses’ pockets rake for plunder,
    Set town afire, to altars tie their horses,
    Burn our white brothers’ bodies torn asunder.

    https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/isj/1961/no006/blok.htm

    Plus, Russia IS NOT “Western” nation as it is defined today in terms of West. And Thank God for that.

    • Agree: SeekerofthePresence
    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  101. “Amazing admission”? Stating the blindingly obvious, more like it.

  102. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Archangel

    But Boris Johnson, seconded by Sajid Javid and Priti Patel, has just announced that he wants to enable all university graduates to stay in the UK if they find a job.

    It’s what used to be called Eugenics, but now called a “points-based immigration system.”

    The result is genocide of the native race, achieved by squeezing the native-born out of the better jobs and housing options, while taxing them to death to pay for the infrastructure the intellectually superior newcomers demand, i.e., maternity hospitals, schools and university places for their kids, who they, but to a decreasing extent the native population, can afford.

    • Replies: @Avery
  103. CanSpeccy says:
    @Skeptikal

    Russia, like the other white nations, will survive only if they end their self-genocidal acceptance of policies resulting in a below-replacement and continually declining fertility rate.

  104. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Republic

    History will not look too kindly on that war criminal Blair

    Blair was not merely a war criminal. His government sought to swamp the British nation with an immigrant influx intended to “rub the noses of the right” in multiculturalism, i.e., he aimed to destroy the nation both as a racial and a cultural entity. That is the crime of genocide.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  105. @Andrei Martyanov

    Russia IS NOT “Western” nation

    Amen. Thank God.

    I divide the world into three civilizations: West, Middle East, East.

    A civilization may be characterized by what or whom they worship.

    Thus the essence of the West is twofold: money and war.
    The essence of the East is Buddha, whom I revere but feel is lacking.
    The essence of the Middle East is Christ, Whom they received as Messiah and testified to with their blood, as did Russia after the Communist revolution. Hence I regard Russia as essentially Middle Eastern, though a bit chillier.

    Vladimir received Christ from Constantinople, the glory of whose liturgy won him to the Lord. Since then Christ has been at the heart of Russian worship, ecclesiology, art, even national defense. Russia is now rising from the ashes of Communist desolation by the power and grace of Christ. The next war, I believe, will essentially be between money and war devoted Western Huns and the Russian Orthodox Church. Спаси и сохрани.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  106. Beckow says:
    @jiri

    I agree that #2 is the current preference for Western elites (although they would prefer not to have to choose). But decoupling has consequences:

    – inflation – without cheap Chinese manufacturing prices will go up quite a bit
    – money rushing to the West (from China, Russia…) since West will still have best luxory environment and protect assets better
    – re-emergence of leftist political movements all over the West based on not having Chinese labour as cheap labour threat, and also because in confrontational situations Western elites are forced to be more accommodating to their won people (as in Cold War)
    – more migrants allowed into N America and Europe: allowing migrants in is a political concession to Third World – when West has to fight for good will there, they will offer more migration as a sweetener.

    3) is possible, but unlikely.

    One more thing: Macron didn’t write that speech.

  107. Avery says:
    @CanSpeccy

    {The result is genocide of the native race,}

    It is ridiculous to call it, quote, ‘genocide’: it is suicide, by the natives themselves.
    For example, native English _elected_ a Muslim Islamist supremacist the mayor of London*: he didn’t take the position by force. If English people are stupid enough to open the floodgates and invite everybody and his brother to England, and then elect an Islamist as mayor of their capital city, and recognize sharia as law** in the land of Magna Carta, and allow Muslim immigrants to groom and rape 100s of their children (….while authorities look the other away), and on and on and on….., then it is anything but genocide.

    __________________________
    * The population of London is ~70% “White”, presumably native English stock.

    ** [British court recognises sharia law in landmark divorce case]
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/01/british-court-recognises-sharia-law-landmark-divorce-case/

  108. anonymous[406] • Disclaimer says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    And there were riots and car burnings earlier this week in Quimper.

    You mean by assorted “third world” losers, right? Their barbarism is still much lesser than the satanic savagery of whitey imperialists, who cause “burnings” on a continental scale.

    … following a religion that tells them they’re better than …

    From a spiritual point-of-view, of course.

    Purely from a logic standpoint, the religion you mention does make its adherents spiritually better than the others of your godless kind.

    You see, since religion is all about comprehending the Almighty, let us consider both…

    Islam’s true monotheism is all about this;

    Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent.” Holy Quran 112

    The faith followed by westerners is predicated on something like this;

    Christianity is characterized by monotheistic Trinitarianism, belief in the Incarnation of the essentially divine Logos or only-begotten Son of God, a balancing of cataphatic theology with apophatic theology, a hermeneutic defined by a polyvalent Sacred Tradition, a concretely catholic ecclesiology, a robust theology of the person, and a principally recapitulative and therapeutic soteriology.

    What the hell is that? This is utter pagan nonsense. It is as hilarious, as it is pathetic. I mean that quite literally. If you are truly of the self-perceived “high IQ” westerner ilk, you would see that… No? You don’t? Lol! So much for “high IQ.”

    Ultimately, the Almighty One will judge who is better, and that will count infinitely more than what the pagan godless “demigod” race thinks of true monotheist muslims.

    • LOL: Alden
    • Replies: @Alden
  109. JoannF says:
    @Anonymous

    I would agree…
    Thing is, what are the “Globalists” planning to do with them, now that they have initiated the Morgenthau treatment for [the de-industrialization and genetic dumbing-down of] Europe, which lies clearly ahead ?

    What sense does it make to actively turn white civilization into a third world like affair to “defuse Climate Change” – and then allow Asians to become the new “White Supremacists” ?
    Surely the agitators (who are at this time in close communion with parts of the Rothschild family and belong the the usual suspects) who tweet that they want to “end the white race” – not my words – would see the Asians as the same future hindrance of their own status ?

    Especially when the Chinese have been making great plans with parties like Iran ?

  110. @CanSpeccy

    Looking at formerly Great formerly Britain today, I’d say he succeeded. In fact, I liked Britain when it still was Britain.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  111. DaveE says:
    @sally

    Good point. It’s important to make a distinction between industrial capitalism (the good, real kind) and finance capitalism (the evil kind). Industrial capitalism is competition of ideas, engineering, manufacturing and efficiency. Finance capitalism is just about screwing labor to lower costs (in theory, anyway) to benefit the bankers and the parasite class.

    Unfortunately people seldom make the distinction, which is why the USA is constantly cursed for being a “capitalist” country.

    What we REALLY are is a country of liars, scammers, crooks, and money changers. Zionists, in other words.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  112. CanSpeccy says:
    @Avery

    It is ridiculous to call it, quote, ‘genocide’: it is suicide, by the natives themselves.

    As with most comments that begin with ridicule, yours is either insincere or ill-infomed.

    The British never were

    stupid enough to open the floodgates and invite everybody and his brother to England

    Opinion polls have run consistently 70% plus against mass immigration. Mass immigration was forced on the British people by the likes of that old perve, Ted Heath, and all of his successors, particularly the government of Tony Blair.

    That London is now majority first or second generation foreign, as are other major urban centers, including Leicester, Birmingham (England’s second city), Luton, etc., etc., and the fact that Britain as a whole will be majority ethnic within a generation, is the result of a globalist government policy of national genocide, not an act of national suicide.

  113. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @AnonFromTN

    I’d say he [Blair] succeeded in destroying [the indigenous British nation].

    Yes, as assisted by many others. Boris Johnson is another in a long line of British Treason Party leaders seeking to replace the indigenous people by smarter, cheaper people from elsewhere — people without any damn stupid ideas about the rights of an Englishman, the importance of free speech, or the significance of Magna Carta.

    As John Cleese recently noted, London is no longer an English city, and as Cleese might have added, soon any remaining English city will be roundly condemned as “too white” and targeted for ethnic cleansing.

    The Chinese have their homeland, the Indians have their home states, the Africans have their home continent, but the Europeans, with the backing of Merkel and the rest of the EU hierarchy, are to be overwhelmed by “refugees” and other economic migrants, without any place to call their own.

    • Agree: Miro23
  114. @Avery

    No it is genocide.

    Because all of that is being facilitated and imposed by coercive force and complicit Jewish authorities and elites.

    If the English try and resist, they are locked up for hate speech etc.

    It is genocide.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  115. @ababush

    So you were being disingenuous in your question. Since uou are clearly one of those nutters who is impervious to fact and likescto believe conspiracy nutters’ fantasies I suppose it is too much to expect you to follow me in spending a few seconds search time in finding e.g.

    “The capital of the Bank [of England] is held by the Treasury Solicitor on behalf of HM Treasury”

    Nor is the central bank of France even a *nominal* exception to public ownership and control as in

    “Central Banks Listed On Exchanges
    These are the Bank of Japan and the Swiss National Bank. As with the Fed system, the ownership of BoJ shares *comes with caveats and restrictions*. The government owns 55 percent of the central bank with the rest owned by private investors.”

    After you have taken a course in the English language [there is no such plural word as “informations” in standard native usage] try taking one in law so you woun’t continue to be bemused by confusion over concepts of ownership and control.

  116. @DaveE

    Good point. It’s important to make a distinction between industrial capitalism (the good, real kind) and finance capitalism (the evil kind).

    Lenin on Imperialism as the highest form of capitalism:

    1. the concentration of production and capital has developed to such a high stage that it has created
    monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life;

    2. the merging of bank capital with industrial capital, and the creation, on the basis of this “finance capital,” of a financial oligarchy;

    3. the export of capital as distinguished from the export of commodities acquires exceptionalimportance;

    4. the formation of international monopolist capitalist associations which share the world among
    themselves,
    and

    5. the territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers is completed

    Give dude a credit where the credit is due–he generally nailed it.

    • Agree: Biff
    • Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  117. Damien Kupperman says in 1980’s US can win nuclear war against USSR.
    Casualties need “only” be 20 million in the US.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/charles-kupperman-nuclear-war-trump-nsa_n_5d7b9809e4b03b5fc88212fd

    Damien checks his pate to make sure his Beast number is up-to-date.

    Could it be a nuclear warmonger more truculent than Bolton is now
    Acting National Security Advisor?

  118. @SeekerofthePresence

    Hence I regard Russia as essentially Middle Eastern, though a bit chillier.

    Russia, to put in Eduard Limonov’s words “IS the Europe now”. I would also be very cautious when idealizing Russia by means of reducing her to just merely Orthodox worldview, however important it is. It is way more complex than that.

  119. @Wizard of Oz

    Snopes. LOL Jackass.

    The network of global corporate control

    https://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1107/1107.5728v2.pdf

    Wikispooks Comment

    An analysis of the relationships between 43,000 transnational corporations has identified a relatively small group of 147 companies (out of 30 million economic actors in the 2007 Orbit database) with disproportionate power over the global economy. Connectedness clusters over time and money flows towards the most highly connected members, for ‘business reasons’. These findings not only contradict common book learning of how markets should behave, it has also implications for social power structures: although they represented 20 per cent of global operating revenues, a core of 1318 TNCs appeared to collectively own through their shares the majority of the world’s large blue chip and manufacturing firms – the “real” economy – representing a further 60 per cent of global revenues.

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:The_Network_of_Global_Corporate_Control.pdf

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  120. Alden says:
    @anonymous

    Your post is an excellent argument for atheism. Craziest thing I’ve read in a long time. Sounds like those Black Israelite lunatics.

  121. @DESERT FOX

    In regards to MH 17, it was in reality MH 370 and had the corpses of MH 370 on board when the Ukraine shot it down over the Ukraine, …

    No, without doubt Captain Shah commited murder/suicide and was solely responsible for the crash. MH370 certainly crashed somewhere in the southern Indian Ocean. This is proven by the finding of the flaperon on Reunion Island.

    I was initially very reluctant to blame Captain Shah, as I’m prejudiced in favour of pilots, but I always go with the evidence. Truth in all things matters.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  122. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Flint Clint

    If the English try and resist, they are locked up for hate speech etc.

    Daily Mail: Mother, 38, is arrested in front of her children and locked in a cell for seven HOURS after calling a transgender woman a man on Twitter.

    The suppression of free speech in England is probably more effective than in Russia under the Communist secret police, or in Germany policed by the Gestapo. The method is gentler, in as much as it is not enforced by beatings and killings, and it is, therefore, more compatible with the endless propaganda for political correctness and multiculturalism, the latter destroying national cohesion through the conflict it inevitably generates among groups adhering to different sets of moral and social norms.

    • Replies: @A123
  123. @acementhead

    I stand by what I said, do some research!

  124. A123 says:
    @CanSpeccy

    The suppression of free speech in England is probably more effective than in Russia under the Communist secret police, or in Germany policed by the Gestapo.

    Gates of Vienna does an excellent job of documenting Free Speech abuses in Europe including the UK. They find and report on the horrors the European Dhimmi media intentionally covers up.

    https://gatesofvienna.net/2019/09/salafist-madrassas-in-the-netherlands/

    Another good example of Culture Enhancer brutality is documented here:

    https://ninetymilesfromtyranny.blogspot.com/2019/08/five-migrants-convicted-after-filming.html

    PEACE 😇

  125. Erebus says:
    @MLK

    I think we’re mixing several issues and themes…

    In no particular order…

    … that the US is one crisis away from collapse, I wholly disagree.

    Well, there’s crises and there’s crises, and likewise with “collapses”. The reality remains that the US, particularly in its Imperial form is fragile, based as it is on myths and inertia rather than realities and forward looking strategies.

    Its military prowess has been exposed as a chimera. One need look no further than Syria to watch the USM stand down while a small contingent of Russians ate their lunch. When they stood down in Syria, they effectively stood down in the entire Middle East. Despite the vast imbalance of military assets in theatre, they contented themselves with blowing up occasional sand dunes and empty buildings. Their stand-down speaks volumes to anyone who’s listening.

    Two days ago, drone/missile attacks took a heavy toll on Saudi oil infrastructure at Abqaiq, right under the noses of the big USM installations at Manama and Al Udeid, who “didn’t see them coming”. If they didn’t see them coming, never mind putting up an effective defence, they’re as good as useless. Actually, worse than useless.

    That’s why the Russian/Chinese proposal for a new security/finance structure in the M.E. is gaining traction with everyone including US’ allies in the region. It’s been circulating and under discussion for several months now, and only the Saudis stand in the way of its gaining even more traction. This drone attack will surely colour their deliberations and gel others’ tendencies to sign up.

    The M.E., of course provides a critical support to the other aspect of the US’ Empire, namely the petro-dollar. The two are symbiotic, but with the USM leg visibly failing, the petro-dollar will go with it when the failure becomes official. There’s no reason the Saudis or anyone else would demand dollars if they’re not getting security in return.

    Does the failure of the petro-dollar and USM in the M.E. mean collapse of the US? Not necessarily, and depending on what “collapse” means. The US remains a large country, with still considerable socio-political cohesion despite the current chaos in DC. It may be able to take the hit in living standards that loss of dollar hegemony would entail and eventually rebuild its real economy. By 2070 or so, it could be back in the saddle as a powerful nation.

    … we entered coincident with (and because of) POTUS Trump is a bursting of the China Dream.

    It’s the Internationalists’ China Dream that Trump is bursting. They dreamed they were gonna be in charge, calling China’s shots when they lent China America’s credit card. China outsmarted them and Trump’s moves are a recognition of that.

    China’s China Dream is wholly different and there’s nothing to suggest it’s bursting. It, like the Russian and every other Dream, will take hits when the American Dream is finally buried, but it can and will survive simply because, when coupled to Russia, it has all the physical, social, political and military resources it needs to survive, and even to thrive.

  126. @War for Blair Mountain

    What’s the story on the Dagestanis….They pretty much keep to themselves?…Potentially vulnerable to Wahhabism?…Or do they want to be left alone so they can wrestle all day?

    Some of them are Wahhabi. But in general, it is corruption endemic in this region that drives many radicalization processes there. That is why the big honcho there today is sort of Russian (Vladimir Vasiliev), who is not really ethnically fully Russian (50%-Russian, 50%-Kazakh) but is a real Moscow man. Well, he is Russian for all intents and purposes.

  127. @Erebus

    It’s the Internationalists’ China Dream that Trump is bursting. They dreamed they were gonna be in charge, calling China’s shots when they lent China America’s credit card. China outsmarted them and Trump’s moves are a recognition of that.

    Sadly, my Agree button is disabled.

  128. @Where-Wolf

    And you poont is? Wouldn’t have anything yo do with the original point about the use of the Rothschild name in blog comments would it?

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  129. Jake says:

    This is true: “… Russia is very much part of Europe geographically, economically and politically and there is simply no way for any imaginable alliance of European states to save Europe from its current predicament without Russian help.”

  130. FB says: • Website
    @Erebus

    Excellent comment E…

    Let’s see what the Rah Rah ‘Merica brain trust here comes up with in response…

    The US…may be able to…eventually rebuild its real economy. By 2070 or so, it could be back in the saddle as a powerful nation.

    LOLOLOL…can’t wait for the true believers here to pull the pin on this one…

    Btw…that hit on KSA by the Houthis is some piece of work…good discussion over at MOA…

    • Replies: @MLK
  131. Richard B says:
    @Erebus

    Good comment with a lot of truth in it.

    Still, it is worth pointing out that The Rothschilds, et al. are not invincible.

    Not by a long shot.

    After all, if civlizations can go, so too can financial dynasties.

    Especially if their empire sits on top of the very civilization they just destroyed.

    • Replies: @Erebus
  132. A123 says:
    @Erebus

    Two days ago, drone/missile attacks took a heavy toll on Saudi oil infrastructure at Abqaiq, right under the noses of the big USM installations at Manama and Al Udeid, who “didn’t see them coming”. If they didn’t see them coming, never mind putting up an effective defence, they’re as good as useless. Actually, worse than useless.

    Anti-Air is a two stage process, Search and Engagement. The surprise Iranian first strike exploited a “Search Phase” error. Search was oriented East and the attack came from the South. While this type of unforced error from Allied forces is disappointing, the weakness is easily & already fixed.
    _____

    There are two parts of oil infrastructure. -1- Crude Stabilization that eases export operations. -2- Refining for domestic consumption. The attack, despite the massive fire, was largely a miss. Iran desperately needed to hit the stabilization facilities that would curb Saudi exports for an extended period. The strike hit the much larger refining portion of the complex.

    At this point everyone believes that the stabilization unit is fundamentally sound. There will be a couple of days of clean-up to get shared utilities such as high pressure steam and electricity back to full function, but once that is complete Saudi exports will be back to 100% baring unexpected technical issues. Probably by the end of the week.
    ____

    The reason why oil prices are soaring is Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt [FUD] about the necessary Saudi retaliation against Iran.
    — What will the Saudis hit to even the scales?
    — And, will Iran commit national suicide by escalating?

    The biggest fear for oil traders is that the well earned retaliation will fall on Iranian oil stabilization and loading facilities. Such a response would curtail or end the currently huge China-Iran crude smuggling trade. China would dip into its SPR for immediate needs, but would have to re-enter the competitive market for crude in a major way.

    However, the Saudis have other options to put pressure directly on Ayatollah Khameni, such as striking Tehran or Qom. Until they act, FUD will roll back and forth through the markets. Watch the volatility indexes such as VIX.
    ____

    The truth is that the Saudis and everyone else want to avoid Iran becoming a failed state like Somalia. Both violent Shia extremism and the National Socialist Revolution are causing the Iranian people and Iranian industry to suffer. Now that the IRGC gets its funding from capitalist industry, it really doesn’t believe in Ayatollah Khameni’s National Socialism anymore.

    Everyone keeps hoping for Egypt’s recent example. The military replacing the full on crazy Socialist religious zealot. By which I mean Ayatollah Khameni, not Pope Francis, though the near identical ideology is disturbing. Unfortunately, this cannot be controlled from the outside and Ayatollah Khameni is a paranoid sociopath with multiple levels security isolating him from the people of Iran who hate and despise him.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Erebus
    , @Commentator Mike
    , @FB
  133. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Erebus

    The US undoubtedly could still throw its weight around in the ME, but for what purpose?The US, with Mexico and Canada, approaches energy self-sufficiency, so controlling the ME is no longer necessary to protect America’s energy supply. Moreover, to interdict the supply of ME oil to rival powers needs no US presence in the ME as pipelines and shipping can be disrupted with missiles and assault by carrier-based aircraft.

    And with energy self-sufficiency dollar hegemony is less important, since America no longer needs to bear the expense of garrisoning the ME. Indeed, what the US needs now is a cheap dollar as protection for domestic manufacturing.

    • Replies: @Erebus
  134. anon[356] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    Pus is dripping again.

    “Macron is enlisting Muslims as pseudo-police officers to beat Christian, Yellow V”

    Yellow vest is anti Semitic so say Jew . May be those Muslim are offshoot of Israeli trained ISIS.

  135. Erebus says:
    @CanSpeccy

    … the ME is no longer necessary to protect America’s energy supply.

    It was always and ever about controlling everyone else’s, allies’ as much as adversaries’, supply.

    “Hegemony” means being able to force both allies and adversaries to do your bidding. That’s true whether the control mechanisms are financial, monetary, or food/energy supply. If you control all or enough of them to do the job, you are a Hegemon. It’s not more complicated than that.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  136. @Andrei Martyanov

    Thank you for the clarification of what you are not interested in.

  137. Erebus says:
    @A123

    Iran desperately needed to hit the stabilization facilities that would curb Saudi exports for an extended period.

    “Desperately” seems hyperbolic.

    Most of the strikes are grouped at the northern and northwestern end of the complex, indicating that they hit what they wanted to hit. Thus, they sent a message regarding capability, without breaking the Saudis’ market. There won’t be a retaliation because (as you point out) the damage wasn’t devastating and it remains completely unclear who was responsible for the strike. Does KSA fire off missiles at Iran? That would beg escalation, but what sort of retaliation could they usefully take against Yemen? Make some hospital they reduced to rubble bounce? Kill more schoolchildren?

    Everyone knows Iran is much more robust a nation, and can take a lot more punches than the Saudis. It can also counterpunch if it becomes a slugfest, something I doubt of the Saudis.

    As for the rest, rubbish. I bet you’ve never even been to Iran or talked to any actual Saudis, Bahrainis, Emiratis, or Qataris, though I have little doubt that you talk plenty with Israelis.

    Iran is feared simply because it is the biggest and most culturally and technologically advanced state in the region. If you’re a Saudi King or an Israeli PM, your Regional Power Quotient is gonna drop an order of magnitude as soon as Iran is freed from sanctions and threats of American invasion.

    More importantly, it is also openly hostile to both Zionism and Wahhabism and so the illegitimate regimes that depend on those pathological ideologies for their power obviously feel threatened. That said illegitimate regimes make up the entire list of American allies in the region, means that Iran also threatens American power in the region.

    There’s your “Iranian Problem” in a nutshell.

  138. Erebus says:
    @Richard B

    … The Rothschilds, et al. are not invincible.

    I don’t think they’re invincible as much as they are astute at protecting their fortune(s).

    They, and others in those circles command vast inter-generational wealth. They think dynastically, and the preservation of that dynastic wealth across centuries is what concerns them above all other considerations. To the extent that they involve themselves with politics or this or that geo/socio/econo-political development is in bending that development’s trajectory towards the preservation of the wealth they see themselves as safeguarding if it looks threatening.

    These kinds of people aren’t johnny-come-lately, ideologues/activists like Soros who want to impose some “utopian” vision on a reluctant society. In fact, they’re the antithesis of Soros.

    If Rothschild saw trends he didn’t like gaining traction, eg: a rising, impenetrable Chinese civilization coinciding with a European civilization floundering under the leadership of the USA, and twisting itself into a soci-political pretzel by Soros et al, he may well act to bend things so the wealth he commands remains intact. To the extent that he speaks for Rothschild (et al) that’s what I think Macron’s words should be seen in light of.

    Many of the old, wealthy families in China somehow maintained at least the bulk of their wealth through the dynastic collapses, invasions, civil wars, uprisings, revolutions and famines that ravaged China for over a century, and then through the radically antagonistic regime that was left standing. Many more lost everything, and some more than everything.

    So, I take a much more sanguine attitude towards the Rothschilds than some others because, notwithstanding the role of revolutions in driving social progress, in general terms what’s good for preserving their wealth is also good for general development. First and foremost, as Martyanov pointed out above is stability.

    From Rothschild’s point of view, the failure of America’s hegemonic ambitions, and the activities of the Soros types are leading Europe to socio-political catastrophe. Instabilities are rising, and though he’s doubtless taken all kinds of protective measures, nobody in his position wants catastrophe.

    It may be merely a tragic circumstance that the best he could find to take his message to Europe was Macron. Be that as it may, I’ve noticed that Macron has piped up several times with an unexpected message that appears wise far beyond his persona as a shallow, toy-boy dilettante so I doubt it’s him speaking.

    • Replies: @Richard B
    , @Wizard of Oz
  139. @A123

    Search was oriented East and the attack came from the South. While this type of unforced error from Allied forces is disappointing, the weakness is easily & already fixed.

    LOL. LOL. LOL. “Easily and already Fixed.” LOL.

    You have a short memory. What about the attack last month from the same direction on a Saudi airport?

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/yemen-houthis-launch-drone-attacks-saudi-airports-190808231147892.html

    And also those attacks on the oil pipelines. How many more attacks before they fix their weakness?Looks like Saudi air defences are useless. I wonder who supplies them.

    • Agree: FB
  140. @Wizard of Oz

    I think the point is that using Snopes as any sort of source or authority reduces your point to farce.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  141. @Bill Jones

    It did occur to me that he might be saying something like that even though his manner of expressing himself was about equivalent to a random fart. But, as you know doubt observed I merely gave him a starting point for showing that he could come back with something worthwhile on the subject given Snopes respectable enough reputation as fact checker and debunker of urban legends.

    There is nothing to be said for his attempt (if you are right) to answer the narrow Rothschild question with flummery from Wikispooks when Snopes is comparatively respectable (see e.g. the Wikipedia article about it). After all Wikispooks shows its limitations with this:

    “WikiSpooks editorial policy summary

    The veracity and accuracy of official announcements, documents, press releases etc should be treated as inversely proportional to the Power, Wealth, Statutory (or other claimed) Authority, in ‘current Establishment hierarchies of their source.

    Any such information should be assumed to be in furtherance of a hidden – if more or less obvious – agenda and thus designed to mislead rather than to inform.

    Reputation, Position, Rank, Place etc., in Establishment hierarchies and protocols (both current and historical) should be treated as pretentious conceits serving Establishment agendas (hidden or otherwise) and thus deserving of ridicule, satire and other forms of literary attack.”

  142. Richard B says:
    @Erebus

    Yes, I agree. I don’t think it’s him speaking at all. He’s an employee.

    And there’s no quesiton that The Rothschilds do their best to hold on to what they’ve got.

    But they can’t control everything. And the fact is, as the world becomes more and more complex and unpredictable, it’s harder and harder to strike a balance between stability and innovation. And not just in science and technology, but where it’s needed most, our social-institutions.

    In the past rulers, leaders, etc. focused only on stability. Today they simply can not or they will not survive. No one can.

    But to keep the balance of stability and innovation, group and individual, etc. is extremely difficult even if those who occupy our social-institutions, executive, manager, employee, were all fairly well-educated.

    But they’re not.

    Education has been in free fall in the West for the past 50+ years, though some educators would put the beginning of the downfall sooner than that.

    Either way, people are simply not learning what some refer to (with reason) as The Survival Skills,

    Critical Thinking/Problem-Solving, Effective Communication, Leadership Development, Creative Intelligence, Cooperation and Coordination, Innovation/Stability (the relationship between the two within and between social-institutions), etc.

    The gap between what we need to know and what we actually know has never been greater.

    But even more ominously, the gap between what we need to do and what we can do is even wider than that.

    This is why it’s been so easy for the psycho-scam known as Political Correctenss/Identity Politics to do some much damage.

    The result is, everything The Rothschilds, and not just The Rothschilds, control is collapsing.

    I think it’s why they’re partnering with China. Because as the West collapses and China takes over (The USA and EU are no match for China’s military might and political will) The Rothschilds will find themselves reduced to being China’s accountants just to hang on to their fortunes. Which, eventually, China will simply take.

    Why not? What army is The Rothschilds going to use to stop them?

  143. Whitewolf says:
    @Seraphim

    One of the tenacious perceptions of the innate incapacity of the Chinks to be a great power is that expressed in the question: “Well, Chinese invented the gun powder. And what did they do with it? Instead of putting it to good use they made Fire-crackers!” (accompanied with a scoffing smile). Whereas We (the ‘White West’) put it to good use! Same with the compass, printing press, paper-money, etc.

    All that may be true but look what we’ve done with television.

  144. @Andrei Martyanov

    You’re arguing a point I didn’t make. What makes (or made) Americans good at organized violence is (or was) being creative, intelligent and conscientious. You’re arguing strenuously that the US is not good at organized violence–that’s neither my nor the original commenter’s point. As I also said, and I assume you’d agree, imperial decline results in less focus on creativity, intelligence, etc. America, like Rome before it, is no longer as good at organized violence, but still way better than, say, Iraqis or Syrians.

    Being good at organized violence is a result of being creative, intelligent and conscientious. It’s how polite, fastidious Englishmen got a globe-spanning Empire. They also had a potent creed: progressivist, Protestant Christianity. If your soldiers believe they have the Mandate of Heaven (whether the Lord Jesus Christ’s, Yahweh’s, Allah’s, what or who ever) they will punch well above their weight.

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  145. anon[356] • Disclaimer says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Martin van Creveld has always wanted the world unfold in certain predetermined way so that Israel could use this threat to blackmail the world and advance its interests . Situation in the world is not a threat . It is Israel who is a threat . World has figured it out . World has decided to ignore Israel and let it self destruct .

    Does Martin van Creveld think Israel might drop the bomb on itself now ?

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  146. “If something can’t go on forever, it won’t.” – Herb Stein

    The use of the US Dollar as reserve currency was not so much an “exorbitant privilege,” as it was called by the French, rather it was an exorbitant burden on the nation. Although the privilege part has enabled the financiers to enrich themselves more than any other group in history, the burden has hollowed out our nation so that we now sit burdened by a massive unproductive population totally dependent on the continuance of the Ponzi scheme for their daily bread.

    This will not continue because it can’t. As trade and the “global order” fostered by the Ponzi scheme decay there will be a myriad of knock-on effects. Macron is no genius for pointing this out, but I suppose it is significant for a “world leader” to point out that the Emperor is naked.

    As the US people tire of the burden of playing World Police, other actors will strike out in all sorts of independent directions. Conflict is inevitable.

    We live in interesting times. One would be wise to prepare for the future to be even more interesting.

  147. @anon

    Martin van Creveld has always wanted the world unfold in certain predetermined way so that Israel could use this threat to blackmail the world and advance its interests .

    Of course, albeit his position on Syria is admirable. But this is as far as it goes. I generally am apprehensive whenever reading “military history” by men who never served a day in any officer position and don’t have an appropriate background. Especially when I see books whose titles start with “Lesson of….” or humanities-educated people waxing (military) technological. Creveld, however, is not the worst, I’ll give him that.

  148. FB says: • Website
    @A123

    You are a complete fucking idiot…

    What possible qualifications could you posses on technical matters of air combat and air defense to be popping off on these subjects about which you know absolutely nothing…?

    Then we have this from you…

    The attack…was largely a miss. Iran desperately needed to hit the stabilization facilities that would curb Saudi exports for an extended period. The strike hit the much larger refining portion of the complex.

    At this point everyone believes that the stabilization unit is fundamentally sound. There will be a couple of days of clean-up to get…back to full function…Probably by the end of the week.

    Is that right, hasbara gerbil…?

    Here is the REALITY…

    Reuters reports…

    Consultancy Rapidan Energy Group said images of the Abqaiq facility after the attack showed about five of its stabilization towers appeared to have been destroyed, and would take months to rebuild – something that could curtail output for a prolonged period.

    As for your DIARRHEA about air defense…

    We recall that the US MIM-104 Patriot air ‘defense’ was shown to be a complete nerf ball when the Houthis hit the Riyadh international airport with an antique Scud missile back in December, 2017…

    The New York Times conducted a quite decent investigation with the help of ACTUAL EXPERTS…

    Did American Missile Defense Fail in Saudi Arabia?

    The Saudis fired FIVE TIMES and failed to hit the single Scud with the Patriot make-believe ‘air defense’ system…

    Laura Grego, a missile expert at the Union of Concerned Scientists, expressed alarm that Saudi defense batteries had fired five times at the incoming missile.

    “You shoot five times at this missile and they all miss? That’s shocking,” she said. “That’s shocking because this system is supposed to work.”

    Btw Ms Grego has a doctorate in experimental physics from Caltech, and has worked in expert roles at the highest level on issues of missile defense…

    You, on the other hand, are a complete fucking clown who thinks it’s perfectly okay to stoop and poop here on this discussion board at your leisure…

    Take your hasbara spiel somewhere else…you are nothing but an irritant to every thinking person here…

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  149. anonymous[406] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    We’ve won that hegemony–by default–because on the whole, we’re more competent, creative, smarter, and ethical than ALL other places on the planet.

    Ethical?! *spit*

    But, Martyanov’s quotation should carry much more weight than my feeble attempt at showing utter contempt for your kind of evil satanic lowlifes.

  150. MLK says:
    @FB

    Okay, you’re on record! Though it’s of little value outside of a middle school social studies class.

    Since the attack, the POTUS declared that he was waiting for Saudi Arabia to locate liability for the attack. Today the Saudi’s said that Iranian weapons were responsible. The implication being that the Houthi carried out the attack using Iranian supplied weapons.

    POTUS Trump is all about focusing liability for maximum leverage. He brilliantly neutralized China’s North Korea card this way. Xi/China were finally forced to take ownership of North Korea as, effectively, a province of China. This brings to an end China’s blackmail of the USG in return for sitting on North Korea. The USG now simply plans as if North Korea’s nuclear/ICBM capabilities are additional Chinese ones.

    He’s applying a similar drill to Iran vis-à-vis the Houthi/Yemen. Iran thus pays the price via the sanctions/Maximum Pressure Campaign for supplying the Houthi with the means and support to attack Saudi Arabia. Moreover, there simply is no other power, Russia and China included, that will expend geopolitical capital to protect Iran from consequences of this type.

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  151. @The Anti-Gnostic

    You’re arguing a point I didn’t make.

    You also continue to argue with the point I didn’t make, apart from the fact that I specifically pointed out to the XX century. It was precisely this century and emergence of industrial warfare on a massive scale which annulled all those “progressive” protestant drivers in warfare. Here is Barnett from his masterpiece on exactly this protestant “ethics” and what it resulted with:

    “As Adam Smith, the founder of liberal economics, put in 1776:”By pursuing his own interest (an individual) frequently promotes that of society the more effectually than when he really intends to promote it.” It was Adam Smith who formulated the doctrine of Free Trade, the keystone of liberalism, which was to exercise a long-lived and as baneful effect on British power as Wesley and Whitefield’s preaching. Adam Smith attacked the traditional “mercantilist” belief that a nation should be generally self-supporting…. According to liberal thinking, a nation was no more than so many human atoms who happened to live under the same set of laws..”

    Warfare of WW II and after proved this beyond the shadow of a doubt. It is one thing to fight against Zulu aborigines or bomb some third-world shithole into the stone age, totally another–to fight peers. In the end, Russian Empire span 12 time zones and resulted in the Soviet superpower, or currently a Russian one and both of them had and have zero protestant “progressive” values and ethics.

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  152. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Erebus

    “Hegemony” means being able to force both allies and adversaries to do your bidding. That’s true whether the control mechanisms are financial, monetary, or food/energy supply.

    Yeah. My point exactly. The US has all the control of the ME it needs by virtue of its ability to cut of anyone’s oil supply or oil/gas exports and hence livlihood remotely — just as the Houthis or whoever just demonstrated by shutting down Saudi exports.

    And the failure of US forces in Saudi Arabia to prevent yesterday’s attack confirms the futility of boots on the ground.

  153. anonymous[406] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    we’re so good at organized violence

    Yeah, so good that, as a civilisation you have reached the heights of Evil, even if it is very cleverly masked in a facade of civilisational “enlightenment.”

    So, what good is all that intelligence & creativity, if it makes your godless kind, the minions of the accursed Satan?

    And, conscientiousness?!! I understand the true meaning of the word, but doesn’t that imply something positive? Does that gel well with “organized violence”?

    But yeah, it is coherent to the point you are making, which brings me back to my beginning statement (see above). Psychopathy to a clinical level.

    It also helps immensely that many of our fighters are sincere Protestant Christians

    No! Not just your “fighters.” It must include most of you (from your ancestors rotting in hell), who sit back at home and watch the slaughter and pillaging, and welcome the ill-gotten wealth from everywhere.

    the Mandate of Heaven

    Lol! What western pagan polytheist mangods-worshippers really have is a Mandate of Eternal Fire.

  154. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    But has anyone claimed responsibility for the attack on the Saudi oil installations?

    Was it even a state actor?

    May it not have been a stock market manipulation? A handful of drones each with a few pounds of high explosive could upend the oil market and deliver huge gains in the futures market.

    • Replies: @Erebus
  155. @MLK

    How about Trump fires pompous Pompeo after blaming him for everything to do with worsening US-Iran relations and sets up a meeting with the Ayatollah to sign some piece of paper in Qatar in front of the world’s media?

  156. Erebus says:
    @CanSpeccy

    The Houthis immediately claimed responsibility in an official statement. There’s some doubt as to whether there isn’t some misdirection involved as a few serious analysts have suggested that the drones/missiles most sensibly came from within the KSA itself.

    The primary reasoning revolves around flight paths and flying times. If the drones/missiles came from Iran and/or Yemen, the air defence failure to intercept becomes “Catastrophic Failure”. As in, there’s no AD at all that’s worthy of the name.

    Of course, if they came from within the KSA, the situation complexifies dramatically.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
    , @FB
  157. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Erebus

    if they came from within the KSA, the situation complexifies dramatically

    Here’s Zero Hedge on how the drone attack could add half a $trillion to the proceeds from the upcoming Aramco IPO.

  158. Draconius says:

    The solution is clear. China and Russia must be destroyed,

  159. A123 says:
    @FB

    I will ignore you have incoherent, projectile hate vomiting, hoping for civilised discourse. You should try being civilised for a change… Though I realize I may be asking far too much.

    ___

    The Reuters blurb is interesting.

    Consultancy Rapidan Energy Group said images of the Abqaiq facility after the attack showed about five of its stabilization towers appeared to have been destroyed, and would take months to rebuild – something that could curtail output for a prolonged period.

    This is the exact opposite of what the early reports indicated. Those reports talked about refining distillation columns in a different but nearby block of the refinery. Without more information on the consultancy group and details anywhere they got their photos, no one on the outside can judge the accuracy of the reports. The ones I heard are equally unverifiable.

    Of course, given that refinery fires spread, the reports may not be wholly inconsistent. A fire in the refining blocks could have spread to the stabilization blocks even though nothing directly hit there. Or, vice versa.

    Again, the defining characteristic of the moment is Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt [FUD].

    The world is much worse off if the Iranian first-strike, sneak attack turns out to be a ‘success’. Voices for restraint might be able to pull things back from the brink if the attack turns out to be a ‘miss’.

    _____

    As to Air Defense. Let’s take two numbers that FB seems to admit:

    — 10+ drones or missiles were launched
    — Only 5 targets (columns) were hit

    While a 50% hit rate is not good, defending against a surprise attack from an unexpected angle … 50%+ is far from awful.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Erebus
  160. FB says: • Website
    @Erebus

    The Houthis immediately claimed responsibility in an official statement. There’s some doubt as to whether there isn’t some misdirection involved as a few serious analysts have suggested that the drones/missiles most sensibly came from within the KSA itself.

    This is assuming that the Houthis don’t have the capability to hit a target precisely from long range [about 1,200 km in this case]…

    But let us examine an interesting cruise missile that the Houthis showed off back in July, the Quds-1…

    I’ve marked some dimensions here which will come into play when we crunch some numbers as to its possible range…

    First let’s note that there are reports and pictures of what appears to be Quds-1 wreckage connected to the refinery airstrike…

    Also the WSJ is reporting that US officials believe that it was cruise missiles, not drones that struck the facility. They are blaming Iran of course…but ignoring the fact that Quds-1, whose capability and range we will analyze here, could in fact have done the job.

    Let’s start with the engine, which is one I am familiar with…a small turbojet of just under 300 pounds of thrust called the TJ-100 and manufactured in the Czech republic.

    These cost about $50,000 retail and are used by folks who build a single-seat jet-powered kitplane in their own garage…others mount them on sailplanes for self-launching capability…they are also used for various target drones.

    The ‘Arms Control Wonk’ site, linked above reports that the Saudis earlier found the wreckage of a previous attack with the ‘TJ-100’ data plate attached on the engine. It could be the Houthis are simply buying this engine, or reproducing a knockoff, which would not be very hard, as this is a very very simple small turbojet engine that does not differ all that much from the even smaller turbojets that radio control modelers are using.

    Just looking at the two it is a practical certainty that this is the engine being used…

    Now let’s compare this Quds-1 to a Tomahawk, which is basically the same thing only bigger…the T-Hawk uses a small Williams turbofan engine that puts out 635 lbs of static thrust…that is just over twice the thrust of the TJ-100 at 292 lbs…

    In maximum speed cruise of Mach 0.7, at sea level standard conditions, the Williams engine in the T-Hawk puts out 464 lbs of thrust…and burns about 1 pound of fuel for each pound of thrust per hour…it means going full steam [463 knots; 533 mph] it is burning ~464 lbs of fuel per hour…covering obviously 533 miles in that hour…

    Here is the Williams spec sheet showing these guaranteed performance figures…

    Now we can compare the cross section size of the two missiles…the T-Hawk is 20.4 inches in diameter, while the Quds is 13.4 inches…the ‘wonk’ site shows how he scaled the measurement by reference to the known TJ-100 engine diameter, which is 10.7 inches…

    The drag of these two missiles is largely a function of their fuselage cylinder cross sectional area…if we calculate the two areas, we find that the Quds has only 43 percent of the cross sectional area of a T-Hawk…[area is a function of the square of diameter]…

    So now we can compute some key aerodynamic numbers…the main thing is the air resistance, called dynamic pressure, which is what you feel if you stick your palm out the window of your car while driving down the freeway…

    The dynamic pressure at a speed of M0.7 at sea level is 726 pounds per square foot…for those wanting to check these numbers a good atmospheric calculator here…

    What that means is that if you wanted to push a flat plate [oriented vertically] measuring 1 ft square foot through the air at M0.7 [533 mph]…it would take a force of 726 pounds to do that…

    Now we know that the Williams engine only puts out 464 lbs of thrust at this speed and altitude, and since thrust must equal drag in straight and level, unaccelerated flight, then the drag equals the thrust and is also 464 lbs.

    We find then that the ‘drag area’ is then 464/726 = 0.64 square feet.

    The Quds has less than half [0.43] of the cross sectional area of the T-Hawk, so its drag area will be proportional to that…so 0.64 * 0.43 = 0.275 square feet…

    Let us now assume the Quds is flying slightly slower at M0.6, which is 397 knots, or 457 mph…still a considerable speed…dynamic pressure at this speed is only 533 lbs/ft^2…[dynamic pressure increases by the square of velocity]…

    Now we can compute how much thrust we need to fly at this speed with the Quds…533 * 0.275 = 147 lbs of thrust…that is only one third the thrust that the bigger T-Hawk requires to fly at a slightly faster speed of 533 mph…

    That means obviously our fuel burn will be lower…we know the Williams engine burns ~ 1 lb of fuel per lb of thrust per hour in cruise [this is the specific fuel consumption]…and the specs of the TJ-100 give a specific fuel consumption of 1.14…but this is only for static condition…in cruise flight, specific fuel consumption is higher in any jet engine…

    The cruise number is not given for the TJ-100, but it would be about 1.3 lbs per lb of thrust per hour…that means putting out 147 lbs of thrust to fly 457 mph, the engine will be burning ~190 lbs of fuel per hour…

    Now we need to know how much fuel this missile can carry…referring again to our picture at the top, we see the fuel tank is about 6.5 feet long…scaling by the known length of the TJ-100 engine…

    We know this is the fuel tank, because the wing must be centered approximately on the midpoint of the tank, in order for the craft’s center of gravity to remain in the same position as the fuel burns off during flight…we see that indeed this is the case with the layout of the Quds…

    We now calculate the volume of that cylinder of 6.5 ft length and 13.4 inch diameter to be about 6.4 cubic feet, which is about 48 gallons…and a fuel weight of about 330 lbs [aviation kerosense is about 7 lbs per gallon]

    That means that flying at this speed we have a fuel endurance of about 1.75 hours, which equals a range of 1.75 * 457 = 800 miles…which is 1,283 km…

    That’s more than enough range to cover the flight distance from Houthi territory to that refinery…

    So what we have here is basically a scaled down Tomahawk cruise missile, using an off the shelf small jet engine that could be produced by even a determined individual with the adequate knowledge and a good machine shop…[if buying them outright is not feasible, although there is no reason for that to be the case…]

    So that’s the engine, which is the hardest part of this whole thing…the guidance system is something that is also very accessible with off the shelf technology that is available for small, private aircraft…

    This kind of navigation equipment has become so cheap and has pretty much comparable capabilities to what the big passenger jets have…a lot of this is due to the advent of micro electro-mechanical systems, or MEMS…this includes aviation grade gyroscopes that can be used to put together a poor man’s inertial nav system [INS], which is what real cruise missiles, passenger jets and ICBMs use…

    There are also navigation radios with satnav [combination of GPS and Glonass]…reasily available aeronautical maps in digital form that can be loaded onto the nav systems etc…

    All you really need are the geographic coordinates of your target [degrees, minutes, seconds] and you can expect to hit a target with an accuracy of about 10 feet [3 meters]…which is about 1/10’th of a degree second…

    The warhead weight that this kind of cruise missile could carry would be on the order of about 200 lbs…we refer again to the marked up picture above and note that the weight of the engine, times the distance of the length to the CG, must balance out the weight of the warhead times its shorter distance to the CG…

    A warhead weight of 200 lbs is serious firepower…combined with the speed of this cruise missile in excess of 400 mph…plus its small size and ability to fly low to evade radar, and you have a formidable weapon…

    We do not know at this point whether the damage was done by multiple Quds-1 strikes coming from Houthi territory…but this technical breakdown certainly proves that it’s possible…

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  161. @Andrei Martyanov

    Brilliant analysis by (I hate to say) Lenin.

    Hence the world of “Rollerball” (1975) which is controlled by six corporations.

    The corporations’ first commandment:
    Let no hero arise who might represent the people.

  162. CanSpeccy says:
    @FB

    We do not know at this point whether the damage was done by multiple Quds-1 strikes coming from Houthi territory…but this technical breakdown certainly proves that it’s possible…

    So the Houthis say they did it, but the US government says they didn’t—Iran did, an assertion the Iranians deny. This series of claims invites speculation and raises the question: who benefits.

    At this point, the beneficiaries seem to be (a) Saudi Arabia, which wants a high oil price to achieve the best return from Aramco’s forthcoming IPO; and (b) the US, which needs a higher oil price to keep the frackers fracking and progress toward energy self-sufficiency still progressing.

    It seems possible, therefore, that the attack was a US-Saudi operation: the US putting together a bunch of missiles from readily available components as some very smart Houthis might have done; then a US special forces group launching the missiles in Saudi Arabia from a location near the Yemen border, having giving warning in advance to minimize casualties, of which there are, according the the NY Times, none reported.

    And who would be the losers under that scenario? Iran, obviously, as the US now has a justification should they decide to strike Iran, and the Houthis, who will in due course surely be punished for what they claim to have done, but which the US Secretary of State says they have not done.

    • Replies: @FB
  163. Erebus says:
    @A123

    While a 50% hit rate is not good, defending against a surprise attack from an unexpected angle … 50%+ is far from awful.

    Actually, it’s meaningless because you don’t seem to understand missile salvoes.

    In the 1st place, if the hit rate really was 50%, that puts the Houthi missiles somewhere between 2-3x more effective than Tomahawks against undefended targets. If that’s “not good”, woe to their adversaries.

    In the 2nd place, it is unknown if, or how many were decoys, or how many targets were hit by more than 1 missile. Normally, salvoes are planned with redundancy on the assumption that some won’t make it. How redundant depends on the targets, the flight path, the AD environment, and other factors. 2 missiles per target is the minimum possible redundancy, so if the Houthis were following standard practices, they wouldn’t have set more than 5 targets for 10 missiles.

    In the 3rd place, it was reported that the Saudi/US AD systems did not respond at all, not even with an alarm. If true, that means very, very close to, rather than “far from” awful. It means, in fact 100% ineffective which is surely about as awful as it gets.

    The upshot of all that is that the salvo was a 100% success, which in turn suggests that the Houthis are now in possession of world-class stand-off capability, as is whoever supplied the missiles. The question now is how many the Houthis have, or can get. The follow on questions are how many do Hezbollah, Iraqi PMUs and Syria have? Do they now comprise a solidified front?

    If they can be considered a unified front, and if Iran has ample stocks of these things, then coupled to their own and Russian AD systems they are de facto military rulers of the Gulf, and all that happens going forward is jockeying for position prior to the negotiations regarding political arrangements getting underway.

    Just as the 26 Kalibrs fired from the Caspian in Oct 2015 reset everyone’s calculations, so has this strike slammed into everyone’s preconceptions and assumptions. The calculus of M.E. power just got a reset, again. The stabilization towers are nothing, the reset is everything. You can bet your last donut that every war council in the M.E. is frantically working out what the new calculus looks like.

    One thing we know is that the Saudis had best start suing for peace in the coming days. They’re now staring into the abyss. It’ll cost ’em a bundle in reparations, but that’s better than being put out of both the Oil and the Royalty business.

  164. Beckow says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    …industrial warfare on a massive scale annulled “progressive” protestant drivers in warfare.

    That’s a point that gets lost on Western thinkers (of all kinds). Regardless of the level of self-criticism, most Western thought is centered around the constant talk of values, principles, culture, etc… and a corresponding idea that those superior values are the main driver of what happens. There is very little actual evidence to show that.

    There is definitely a different set of values and behaviours in the West, but Western actions or inactions are almost completely derived from real-life constraints and not from ‘values’. In the past it was mostly opportunities – with external constraints being minimal and weak. Today the limits are real and physical and Western behaviour is timid and defensive. Values or no values make very little difference.

    Macron speech was a belated acknowledgment that in the last 10-15 years (or longer) West has strategically messed up in a very self-defeating way. More rational strategy for the West would be to constrain China as much as possible – deprive it of allies, make it codependent economically, etc… With Russia a fundamental historical lesson is that feigned ‘friendship’ goes a lot further than attacks – Russia seems unable to resist flattery, but they know how to resist armour. There is also a set of key regional players that West has been busily antagonising (Turkey, Iran, India, …) in a stupid attempt to mimic British traditional policy of never allowing a major rival on the continent without building up a rival.

    The G7 clearly discussed this and delegated Macron to do the outreach. So he made the speech. But nothing will – or can – change because the situation is driven by material constraints and limits.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  165. anonymous[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    You are right. The idea that India is well on its way to “superpower” status (implied when it is equated with Russia and China) is simply ludicrous.

    Most of the world, at least those who have something to sell, simply see India as a giant market to dump their products and enrich themselves.

    The size of the market is such, that these greedy [email protected]# will go to any debased level to court that cesspool of godless paganism, rapes, lynchings, piss-poor judiciary, and so on.

    E.g. “Islamic” UAE giving its highest “honour” (honour from a pissant entity, has any value?) to a complete Islamophobic scumbag like Modi. Lol!

    Oh, the phucking arabs of now! Smh!

  166. @Beckow

    That’s a point that gets lost on Western thinkers (of all kinds). Regardless of the level of self-criticism, most Western thought is centered around the constant talk of values, principles, culture, etc… and a corresponding idea that those superior values are the main driver of what happens. There is very little actual evidence to show that.

    That, plus it would be really healthy to get the historic facts straight–an impossible task for most (not all) Western historiography of the XX century, especially its Anglo version. There must be an explanation why in the last 30 years nominal Anglo geopolitical thought continues to produce non-stop one whopper of a BS after another in the field of International Relations (Geopolitics) and warfare. But, I guess, one cannot teach the old dog new tricks.

    With Russia a fundamental historical lesson is that feigned ‘friendship’ goes a lot further than attacks – Russia seems unable to resist flattery, but they know how to resist armour.

    I don’t think it is the case at all. Especially modern Russia. A dominant (by overwhelming majority) attitude in Russia towards combined West is contempt, to put it mildly. Nobody gives a shit in Russia what West thinks or says anymore.

    The G7 clearly discussed this and delegated Macron to do the outreach. So he made the speech. But nothing will – or can – change because the situation is driven by material constraints and limits.

    Combined West committed cultural suicide in Russia in 2014, since then it doubled or tripled down on staying dead. It is too late for the West.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    , @Beckow
  167. anonymous[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    Once, again the followers of Jesus Christ will discard Axis Islam into the waste bin of history. Hopefully, they will stay there this time.

    That is utter nonsense to me, because the pagan followers of Jesus Christ PBUH are consigning themselves to the waste bin of history, most definitely in the spiritual context. So, there is much irony in that.

    Anyway, I know that the jooscum will over-extend their age-old mischief around the world, until another “holocaust” will cut those evil mofers down to size.

    God willing, they will be the ones who will be consigned to the waste bin of history. There is no Power or Might except with the Almighty One, and He only needs to will it be.

    PEACE 😇

    Peace? Lol! You are a perfidious joomofer… you clearly mock everyone.

    • LOL: FB
  168. Beckow says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    … modern Russia. A dominant attitude in Russia towards combined West is contempt

    Yes, today. A consequences of West doing a fake friendship routine in the 90’s with disastrous results for Russia. The inoculation is there for 1-2 generations. But if you look at Russia’s history, its weakness regularly occurs when they drop their guard and go for the friendship (almost always strategically feigned by the West).

    Combined West committed cultural suicide in Russia in 2014, since then it doubled or tripled down

  169. Beckow says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    … modern Russia. A dominant attitude in Russia towards combined West is contempt

    Yes, today. A consequence of West doing a fake friendship routine in the 90’s with disastrous results for Russia. The inoculation is there for 1-2 generations. But if you look at Russia’s history, its weakness regularly occurs when they drop their guard and go for the friendship (almost always strategically feigned by the West).

    I agree with what your points, but I would trace Western to longer than 2014. The mistakes made in 2014-5 were astounding and harmful, but West has been miscalculating since the 90’s. The idiotic war in Kosovo was an early example of something that was both strategically self-defeating and immoral. The 2014 fool’s initiative in Ukraine (cookies and no real plan) was almost absent minded, as if the elite was just going through the motions. There was none of the swagger and self0confidence one would associate with a strategic move of that magnitude.

    I have also noticed that historical facts are no longer respected in the West. Narratives have been modifying to better fit today’s geopolitics, WWII being a prime example, but it is becoming a tsunami of just making sh..t up. That is a sign of weakness, more self-confident elite would not bother to lie. About WWII there is also the unbearable fact that Russia won, Germany lost, and Anglos mostly stood on the sidelines – it directly conflicts with today’s alliances and enemies.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  170. Malla says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Bottom line rules and it is in the foundation of current existential crisis of the combined West.

    It is one of the foundations. A bigger foundation of the problems of the West is Cultural Marxism and hyper morality. The words ‘racist’ and ‘Nazi’ scare too many people.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  171. FB says: • Website
    @CanSpeccy

    Well…I suppose a false flag can never be excluded…

    But the point of my technical exercise was to provide some bona fide insight into the ACTUAL capabilities of this Houthi cruise missile…

    You will not find this information elsewhere…

    For instance that ridiculous ‘Arms Control Wonk’ article on the Quds-1 is written by people who have not the first clue about aeronautics or physics or anything having to do with hard science…

    If you check the bios of the ‘authors’ on that site, you will find nothing but a bunch of liberal arts dummies…including Jeffrey Lewis who heads up that mickey mouse outfit…yet who is somehow considered an ‘expert’ and is regularly cited in influential media like the NYT etc…

    They state this in the above article…

    …knowing more details about the engine gives us some insights into the performance of the missile. Both the KH-55 and the Soumar use fuel efficient turbofan engines.

    The TJ100 however not only has much lower thrust than the original KH-55 engine but also is just your regular old turbojet.

    This leads to some questions about range.

    Both the missile’s smaller size and its more fuel-hungry engine make it seem unlikely it’s range would be anywhere close to the the Soumar’s/Hoveyzeh’s range of 1350km.

    And this is based on what…?…this dummy’s magic eight ball…?

    Naturally it escapes this moron that the missile’s smaller size, means LESS DRAG…therefore less thrust is required…

    Considering it is probably less than half the weight of a T-Hawk which weighs over 3,000 lbs, or the Russian Kh55 that weighs even more, the Quds thrust to weight ratio is probably SUPERIOR…

    As for the fuel efficiency of a turbofan vs a turbojet, again this dummy’s statement is simply layman-level generalities…

    For instance the new generation Kalibr cruise missile uses a quite efficient TURBOJET engine…and has range far superior to the T-Hawk…

    The Concorde used the Olympus turbojet engine and was more fuel efficient than the Tu144 which originally used turbofans, because there wasn’t a suitable Russian turbojet available…but then switched to the turbojet Kolesov RD36 when that engine was developed…and resulted in a big increase in fuel efficiency…

    These things are way beyond the scope of pretend-experts who wouldn’t know how to solve a triangle, never mind the intricacies of aircraft propulsion…

    That is why I have provided the specs directly from Williams International on the engine that powers the T-Hawk…you will note that this is a LOW BYPASS turbofan [bypass ratio of 1] which is closer to a turbojet, and with similar fuel consumption…the specific fuel consumption in cruise is over 1, which is about double the fuel consumption of a high bypass passenger jet turbofan, which will have an SFC of about 0.5…

    The fact of the matter is that a turbojet engine is suited to a low flying cruise missile because of the dense atmosphere down low, combined with a high flight speed…463 knots in a T-Hawk at sea level is actually a faster EQUIVALENT airspeed than a Concorde flying at Mach 2 at 60,000 ft…

    At that speed and altitude the Concorde’s airspeed indicator will show 431 knots, even though true airspeed is 1,150 knots…this due to the much thinner atmosphere…

    The dynamic pressure on Concorde at M2 cruise at this height is only 422 pounds per square foot, nearly 300 less than on the T-Hawk flying at 463 knots [both true and indicated airspeed are the same at sea level]…

    So these clowns are squirting diarrhea out their nose because they know nothing about the subject of aeronautics…yet somehow they figure it’s perfectly okay for them to make these kind of technical pronouncements about turbojet engines, missile range etc…

    I will also add here that the Quds-1 could easily have even more range than I computed for that particular flight speed…this is because you can trade speed for range…for instance flying at a reduced speed of 400 mph [M5.3], again at sea level, its range extends to over 1,450 km…

    Flying higher during the en route portion of flight will also save fuel…so range could be even longer than that if they flew what’s called a Hi-Lo mission profile…which is perfectly feasible on this flight route over mostly the empty Arabian Desert…

    The whole raison d’etre of these faux experts is to provide some kind of bafflegab that SOUNDS credible to the non-technical sheeple…and then you will note they conclude that Iran is behind all this…

  172. @FB

    FB,

    Has it been established that this attack on the Saudi refinery was by missiles? Some reports are still saying that it was exclusively a drone attack. I think Trump stated that it was a combined missile and drone attack which would make it similar to an earlier synchronised attack on an airport and pipeline with a combination of both. He seems to also indicate that the attack was not from the direction of Yemen “based on satellite imagery” but then those images only show the damage and nothing more, unless he has seen some other unreleased images.

    • Replies: @FB
  173. @Beckow

    I have also noticed that historical facts are no longer respected in the West. Narratives have been modifying to better fit today’s geopolitics, WWII being a prime example

    One fairly famous French military and geopolitical magazine made a review (it should be in this month issue #23) of my first book and while generally positive, they make such an observation (translated from French):

    If Martyanov does a fair enough analysis of the American vulnerabilities, we may regret his disagreeable tendency to bring everything back to the “Great Patriotic War”.

    Well, honestly, it is WW II with Great Patriotic War featuring only as a part of it, but yes, very many still do not want to wake up to the reality of the last gasp of the West as a dominant power due to the United States emerging from the WW II unscathed and a creditor of the destroyed world. We live through the last moments of this WW II arrangements. Yet, there is very little interest in the West to really study WHY is it so–the answer is on the battlefields of WW II. We’ll see what will they say about my second book.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    , @Jazman
  174. @Malla

    A bigger foundation of the problems of the West is Cultural Marxism and hyper morality

    It is not “bigger” per se–it is a result of (economic) liberalism and its main tenet of globalization (“free trade”) which is interested only in faceless, dormant and gender-less consumer. Frankfurt School and a bunch of perverts who self-proclaimed themselves “Marxists” is to Marxism as I am to Chinese. Cultural theories and practices born in the deep recesses of this, and other similar pseudo-academic “institutions” are nothing more than institutionalizing of mental illness. Marx Critical Economic Theory and a BS Markuze or other Critical “Theory” proponents developed are not really a tight fit. You can use even today Marxist analytical method to great effect. Most of those Cultural “marxists”, on the other hand, should be locked up in a mental ward.

    • Replies: @Malla
  175. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @FB

    …and then you will note they conclude that Iran is behind all this.

    Yeah, and that’s all the set out to prove, so their aeronautical analysis is fine.

    But your aeronautical exposition is more interesting.

    • LOL: FB
  176. FB says: • Website
    @Commentator Mike

    Has it been established that this attack on the Saudi refinery was by missiles?

    Well…when is anything ever really ‘established’…?

    Mostly we are kept in the dark and fed bullshit…that’s the whole idea…

    What I am doing here is bringing hard facts to the table about actual aeronautical capabilities of this particular Houthi cruise missile…it could definitely do the job…I have zero doubt about that…

    Was it used…?…I don’t know, and it’s going to be pretty hard to ‘establish’ such facts from our vantage point anyway…

    A drone attack from Yemen would be less likely in my estimation because of the long distance…a small flight vehicle like a piston engine-powered drone is not going to have the fuel capacity to cover such a long distance…generally speaking…

    It would require a drone more on the size of an MQ1 Predator which has a 1,250 km range…but this is a fairly big aircraft with a gross weight of nearly 5,000 lbs and a wingspan of nearly 50 ft…the engine is a turbocharged 115 hp Rotax four cylinder piston engine that is popular in light aircraft of the two-seat variety…

    The Houthis don’t have anything like this…building the cruise missile would actually be much easier, and it is a much more capable weapon…

    Could armed drones have been launched by Houthi collaborators among the Shia majority in the Saudi Eastern Provinces [where all the oil happens to be]…?

    Again this is a possibility…although this would not necessarily be easy to pull off in a very repressive police state like KSA…

    Also we have to look at the damage…17 hits…half of the crucial ‘stabilization’ facilities have been knocked out of commission…half of KSA’s oil output is offline for weeks, perhaps months according to most media reports and pictures…

    This is serious damage…which is why I think the Quds-1 could have played a role…it’s really hard to imagine small drones and their limited explosive punch doing this kind of damage…

    Another wrinkle that I haven’t mentioned is that drones launched locally could be used to guide such cruise missiles precisely to the target…this is a simple matter of equipping such drones to broadcast a radio signal onto which the cruise missile would home…

    Such drones could be quite small and inconspicuous [similar to the store-bought variety, perhaps a bit biger] and would simply transmit a radio signal on the ‘non-directional beacon’ frequency, which has been used in aviation for many decades…

    Low cost aviation nav radios would be used on board the missile to track right to the signal coming from a drone circling above the target…the radio band is similar to AM radio and the equipment is really quite simple…this would give pinpoint accuracy…

    The Houthis did mention that they had helpers inside KSA…

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  177. Malla says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Frankfurt School and a bunch of perverts who self-proclaimed themselves “Marxists”

    The Frankfurt school came up because many leftists were puzzled about why the Industrial economies of the West did not go communist as expected. The Marxists had expected that it would the more Industrialised countries like Great Britain, France, Netherlands, Belgium that would go Communist first. And they tried, there were Communist parties in these countries and they were quite active before WW2. But somehow most British labour unions rejected outright Communism.
    So hence you had all these Jewish Marxists living in Frankfurt all wondering what went wrong. One was they come up with the Colonial powers looting the colonies b.s theory, one of the most toxic theories in the world, a theory which is partly seeded ultra nationalist movements in the third world like the Hindutva movement in India today.
    But the whole cultural Marxism was based on the ideas of Antonio Gramsci

    There was this commie scumbag, Gramsci who was jailed by Mussolini’s government in Italy. And thus this Gramsci had a lot of free time to ponder on why the Industrialized West never went fully commie as was expected. Well he came to the conclusion that it was traditional Western culture which was the obstacle to Communism in the West. Thus the Marxists would have to fight a cultural war as opposed to an economic war on the West to finally bring about the Communist revolution.

    Well so you had these slimeball Jewish “intellectuals” working on this concept in Franfurt Germany, except unfortunately for them, Hitler and his National Socialists came to power in Germany. So these rats ran in all directions, some ended up in Britain, some in California.
    And the rest is history.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Andrei Martyanov
  178. Malla says:
    @Malla

    From

    https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2018/01/21/leninism-and-bioleninism/

    “The point about Leninism is that after absolute power is achieved, the leftist ratchet stops. The country stops moving left. No new ideas. No new catering to low-status people and using them to topple the government. No, none of that. The ever advancing leftist movement was just a means to an end. The end was power. Once power is achieved, leftism dissolves. It doesn’t disappear; it leaves some residue, in that states always try to have ideological consistency with what they said during their founding. Chinese dynasties framed that as filial piety of emperors following the ideas of grandpa the founder; but it’s mostly just inertia.

    [MORE]

    This is not how things turned out in Western Europe and North America. No leftist party as such ever achieved absolute power in the West. It just didn’t happen. And not for lack of trying. But it didn’t pan out. As for why, well there’s my theory back then. Countries which developed capitalism slowly tended to produce less resentful losers than agrarian empires who were thrown suddenly into modernity. That’s not quite my original theory, I’ve read it somewhere else, maybe someone can remind me who first said it. At any rate the success of Leninism in Russia and China has plenty of chance in it. Lenin could very easily not have taken power, he could have lost the civil war, he could have not had that precious Wall Street Jewish money to keep him afloat. No Soviet Russia, no Communist China either. But anyway, it did happen, and socialism was very strong in those places with or without actual takeover.

    So what happened in the West, anyway? There’s one guy who thought about it very deeply. For a long, long time. Mostly because he was in jail so he had plenty of time to study the problem. I’m talking about Antonio Gramsci. He was a communist agitator in Italy who got caught by Mussolini, and was sentenced to rot in prison. ”

    …snip….

    His idea, which was hugely influential, and for good reason, was that the power structure wanted to keep being the power structure and you couldn’t just throw it away and replace it with your boys. You can try your chance in electoral politics, but there’s only so many resentful fucks who are willing to vote for the abolition of the very foundation of social life (property), at least in moderately prosperous Western countries. In these kind of places, if you want to take absolute power, you have to colonize the power structure very slowly. You have to influence their minds. You have to change the culture. This sounds very esoteric and spiritual but it’s not. Basically Gramsci argues that you gotta grab the press and the education system, and slowly but steadily do in every institution with some power what you do in a political party. Political parties work by hiring loyal people by preying on their low-status. Well, find a way into HR of every school, every newspaper, every government department, every judicial board. And to the very same thing. Run a distributed covert Leninist party. Until you run everything.”

    …snip….

    “Because there’s always biology. Some people are tall, some people are short. Some look good, some are pretty ugly. Some are thin and some are fat. Some are pleasant some are annoying. Some are cool and some are awkward. Some are smart and some are dumb. Some make good choices some make bad choices. Some are law-abiding and some are criminally inclined. The latter of each pair is going to be low status anywhere on earth. Even in Soviet Communism under commander Trotsky. Some people just suck. That’s the way genes work.

    And so thankfully for Leftism, even after achieving affluence, even after the working class disappeared as a thing, there was still plenty of material to work with to advance the cause of complete control. And so Leftist groups started agitating status for people of African descent. For Jews. For single women. For drug junkies. For sluts. For fat people. For homos. For lesbians. For aggressive Muslims. For the disabled. For the retarded. For the mentally insane. For the trannies. All people who are were low status in Western society. And who would be low status in any society. Because they suck. They just aren’t very productive. For no fault of their own. Some people are born tall, some short. Some smart, some dumb. Some empathic, some psychopathic. Some content with their lot, some greedy with powerlust. That’s how it is.

    And so the Long March through the Institutions that Gramsci first envisioned as a way of having the Italian Communist Party do what Lenin had done, ended up producing a different kind of Leninist system, one distributed and informal, instead of Lenin’s unified and formal, and one which morphed into promotion of the dregs of society qua dregs of society, instead of promotion of Marx’s idea of the wrongly oppressed proletariat. Marx was not a good man, but at least he tried to dress his ideas in a way that made sense. Das Kapital took some real work to write. But that was just some contingent accident of his time. Leftism doesn’t need to make sense. It just needs to get the job done.”

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    , @Alexandros
    , @Erebus
  179. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Further from

    https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2017/11/14/biological-leninism/

    “What did Lenin do? Exterminate the natural aristocracy of Russia, and build a ruling class with a bunch of low-status people. Workers, peasants, Jews, Latvians, Ukrainians. Lenin went out of his way to recruit everyone who had a grudge against Imperial Russian society. And it worked, brilliantly. The Bolsheviks, a small party with little popular support, won the civil war, and became the awesome Soviet Union. The early Soviet Union promoted minorities, women, sexual deviants, atheists, cultists and every kind of weirdo. Everybody but intelligent, conservative Russians of good families. The same happened in China, where e.g. the 5 provinces which formed the southern Mongolian steppe were joined up into “Inner Mongolia autonomous region”, what Sailer calls “consolidate and surrender”.

    In Communist countries pedigree was very important. You couldn’t get far in the party if you had any little kulak, noble or landowner ancestry. Only peasants and workers were trusted. Why? Because only peasants and workers could be trusted to be loyal. Rich people, or people with the inborn traits which lead to being rich, will always have status in any natural society. They will always do alright. That’s why they can’t be trusted; the stakes are never high for them. If anything they’d rather have more freedom to realize their talents. People of peasant stock though, they came from the dregs of society. They know very well that all they have was given to them by the party. And so they will be loyal to the death, because they know it, if the Communist regime falls, their status will fall as fast as a hammer in a well. And the same goes for everyone else, especially those ethnic minorities.”

    …snip…

    “So you could run a Leninist party just on class resentments. “Never forget class-struggle”, Mao liked to say. “Never forget you used to be a serf and you’re not one now thanks to me”, he meant.”

    …snip….

    “To get to the point: in 1960 we had a white men patriarchy. That was perfectly natural. Every society with a substantial proportion of white men will end up being ruled by a cabal of white men. Much of its biology; part of it is also social capital, good cultural practices accumulated since the 15th century. White men just run stuff better. They are natural high-status. But again, nature makes for messy politics. There is no social value on acknowledging truth: everybody can see that. The signaling value is in lies. In the unnatural. As Moldbug put it:

    in many ways nonsense is a more effective organizing tool than the truth. Anyone can believe in the truth. To believe in nonsense is an unforgeable demonstration of loyalty. It serves as a political uniform. And if you have a uniform, you have an army.

    Or as the Chinese put it, point deer, make horse.

    The point again is, that you can’t run a tight, cohesive ruling class with white men. They don’t need to be loyal. They’ll do ok anyway. A much easier way to run an obedient, loyal party is to recruit everyone else. Women. Blacks. Gays. Muslims. Transexuals. Pedophiles. Those people may be very high performers individually, but in a natural society ruled by its core of high performers, i.e. a white patriarchy, they wouldn’t have very high status. So if you promise them high status for being loyal to you; you bet they’re gonna join your team. They have much to gain, little to lose. The Coalition of the Fringes, Sailer calls it. It’s worse than that really. It’s the coalition of everyone who would lose status the better society were run. It’s the coalition of the bad. Literal Kakistocracy.”

  180. @Malla

    This is good stuff. It has the quality of evident and simple truth.

    • Agree: Malla
  181. @Malla

    One was they come up with the Colonial powers looting the colonies b.s theory, one of the most toxic theories in the world

    Hm, you certainly have a peculiar view of world’s history (and economics) but the age of colonialism is a consensus among majority of serious historians many of who were and are rabid anticommunists (or anti-Marxists, if you wish). You, obviously, somehow missed this teeny–weeny fact of American nationalism of the end of XIX–early XX century which was revolving around, and you may have guessed it, major anti-colonial, anti-British sentiment….Ah, wait, the United States herself sprang from British colonies and she did it by violent means, including this famous Boston Tea Party and all that other shit. Remember the original version of Old Glory? 13 stars and all. Of course, later it was “Remember the Maine, To Hell With Spain”. You know, all those false flags and all those very colonial in their nature affairs, like the Spanish-American War. Somehow this “b.s. theory” proved itself empirically with an astonishing precision. I do not deny also a lot of positive which European colonization brought to what today is known as developing world, after all Administration experience, economic, military organizations, first educational and health care institutions–this too was a result of colonialism, a very positive one. But to say that Europeans did that out of altruistic instincts–pardon me, I graduated kindergarten in 1969-1970.

    a theory which is partly seeded ultra nationalist movements in the third world like the Hindutva movement in India today.

    Are you Pakistani, by any chance? Funny, I thought it primarily described the processes of growth of nations who felt they had the right for their lands and resources. You know, like Americans did in XVIII century. No? So, in the end, as it turned out, Marxism (not this Frankfurt BS “school’) helped to give birth to modern nations? Hm, any news on Ho Chi Minh and what he did for modern Vietnam? You wouldn’t deny the fact that Vietnam is an independent state, would you? As per Hindutva, I overcame my laziness and went to wiki:

    The term “Hindutva” first appeared in the mid-1870s in the novel Anandamath by Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay. The word Hindutva was already in use by the late 1890s by Chandranath Basu in Bengal and the national figure Bal Gangadhar Tilak.[25] The term was adopted by the right-wing nationalist and Indian freedom movement activist Vinayak Damodar Savarkar in 1923, while he was imprisoned for subverting the British Raj and for inciting war against it.[26][27] He used the term to outline his ideology and “the idea of a universal and essential Hindu identity” where the phrase “Hindu identity” is broadly interpreted and distinguished from “ways of life and values of others”, states W. J. Johnson – a Religious Studies scholar with a focus on Hinduism

    Find any contradiction here?

    The Frankfurt School (Frankfurter Schule) is a school of social theory and critical philosophy associated with the Institute for Social Research, at Goethe University Frankfurt. Founded in the Weimar Republic (1918–33), during the European interwar period (1918–39)

    Something doesn’t add up here both in terms of time frame and Hindu nationalism (and fascism) as opposed to what essentially amounts in Frankfurt School to globalist ideology. And we did not even get into Russia’s history yet, if you know what I mean;)))

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  182. Malla says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Somehow this “b.s. theory” proved itself empirically with an astonishing precision. I do not deny also a lot of positive which European colonization brought to what today is known as developing world, after all Administration experience, economic, military organizations, first educational and health care institutions–this too was a result of colonialism, a very positive one. But to say that Europeans did that out of altruistic instincts–pardon me, I graduated kindergarten in 1969-1970.

    Nope, this theory is a fail. European nations did not depend much economically on their colonies, once their societies became industrialized.

    Are you Pakistani, by any chance?

    Nope, I am Indian High Caste Hindu.

    I thought it primarily described the processes of growth of nations who felt they had the right for their lands and resources.

    LOL. Except that Hindu fundamentalists have this in mind

    Yup includes Tibet too. many Hindu fundamantalists are sure of a coming war with China to get back Tibet which is rightfully ours according to them. Mount Kailash (the abode of Lord Shiva) is in Tibet.

    Something doesn’t add up here both in terms of time frame and Hindu nationalism (and fascism) as opposed to what essentially amounts in Frankfurt School to globalist ideology.

    You miss understood. After Indian Independence, the Congress party made a syllabus which was very anti-British. Now you could include both the positives and negatives of the British Raj to give an honest opinion about things but they lied. They hyped up and invented many things bad about the British Raj and hid all positive thing done by the British Raj. Also there was this myth going around that before the British came all Indians were millionaires and now we are poor because the British took away all our wealth, which is bull shit in reality. But soon this nationalism took a Hindu nationalistic turn and genocidal hatred for the British turned towards genocidal hatred towards Muslims as all kind of similar B.S. claims were made about the pre-British Islamic period. So Indian nationalism of the Congress tuned to Hindu nationalism of the BJP, a nationalism based on hatred of Muslims and Christians. Indeed now the idea in the air is that the British are alright compared to the Islamic era, it was the Islamic are which was the worst period. Well the Islamic period was more brutal, that is true, but the truth is much more complicated than that. Most Muslims are Indian converts but are facing the brunt of attacks by local nationalists. Also no mention is done by these nationalists that Hindus played a big role in destroying Buddhism in India.
    Congress lies about the British (rooted in Western leftist and local Brahmanist lies) soon turned to BJP lies about the Islamic period.
    This Indian nationalism is also virulently anti-Chinese and most Indians consider PRC as a colonial country always trying to keep India down.
    This leftist theory of Britain looted India and hence India became poor is one of the seeds of growing a victim mentality with respect to the world among the Indian masses fueling Indian fascism.
    First World leftist theories are fueling Third World fascism. Also this is taking racial overtones. New in our textbooks by the hyper nationalist BJP are concepts like White people are uncooked rotis (bread), black people are overcooked rotis, only we brown people are perfect.

  183. peterAUS says:
    @Malla

    … I am Indian High Caste Hindu…..

    This caught my eye.

    Had a chat with a fellow yesterday. He feels that Indian, not Brasilian, type of society is the preferred end result of this globo-homo game.
    Like….hehe…he said “abhorrent opulence in close proximity with abhorrent poverty”. Caste system official.

    So…re that “case system”. Still working in Indian society? Both internal and abroad? I say “working”, not “sanctioned/approved/enforced by the state”. As reality on the ground.

    • Replies: @Malla
  184. Malla says:
    @peterAUS

    He feels that Indian, not Brasilian, type of society is the preferred end result of this globo-homo game

    .
    I think that too. I think Brazil will be just a stage before devolving to India. We are a brown race formed by the mixture of Caucasoids and Australoids and a little Mongoloid thrown in, we have hijras (enuchs) in our societies, our Gods are animal man hybrids with many cases of androgynous versions, caste system (Brave new world). It is weird. it is as if this globo homo One World was attempted millenia before (in Babylon or something) with India being a left over society of that process.
    No wonder the global Zio elites tend to be very pro India in most matters.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  185. Malla says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Here check this out

    The Architects of Western Decline A Critical Study of the Frankfurt School

    And yes this movement was bankrolled by big bankers like the Rockefellars but big bankers have always had close relationships with Communist revolutions and regimes.

    • Replies: @cassandra
  186. peterAUS says:
    @Malla

    Feels that way. That’s for the global future.

    And….

    re that “case system”. Still working in Indian society? Both internal and abroad? I say “working”, not “sanctioned/approved/enforced by the state”. As reality on the ground.

    As I said, both in India itself and (big) Indian immigrant communities abroad?
    Like…hehe..Australia? Caste system within the community?

    • Replies: @Malla
  187. Malla says:
    @peterAUS

    Caste system within the community?

    Yes it exists.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  188. peterAUS says:
    @Malla

    Hahaha….that’s some terse answer, coming from somebody who could be quite prolific around.
    Makes sense, probably.

    • Replies: @Malla
  189. cassandra says:

    …by the choices that have been made by Americans for several years…

    This should instead read, “..by the choices made for Americans over the last century…”
    At least since 1900, elites have been using propaganda to manipulate the American public into believing abject nonsense and rejecting the semblance of any ethical core as being in bad taste.

    The popular government ceded currency control to the FED, presumably know-better technocratic elites who claimed to be able to make financial panics a thing of the past, if only they were given control (how’d that work out, and why weren’t they fired in 1921?)

    Colonel House pressured Wilson, and with his technocratic partners on the Creel Commission, by dint of lies and misrepresentations, persuaded the public that joining the European war against Germany would “make the world safe for democracy”. Right.

    [MORE]
    These were the same “experts” who imposed the Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain, arrogantly oblivious to the fact that the German people, simultaneously being subjected to deadly street riots put on by Antifa, might have some reaction to such miscarriages of justice. Worse luck for all that a competent political leader arose who could not only take advantage of the political situation, but had a hard-line solution for Germany’s problems, that involved attempting to do to the world what the world had done to it.

    Once again, the choice to intervene was made for reluctant Americans, by dint of the LIHOP provocation of Pearl Harbor.

    When the Soviet Union collapsed, our technocratic elites convinced the Russians that neoliberal privatization was just the thing to make Russia great again. The program disastrously proved that this economic/political system that the West was promoting was worse than communism, and Putin was, for Russians, fortunately able to avert the genocidal catastrophe occurring in his country. Once again, our technocrats have deemed that Americans should see such a leader not just an enemy of incompetently malicious policies, but a personal enemy of the American people as well.

    The underlying problem is, their errors aside, the technocrats stood only for expedience. They face the problem of all technocrats of believing that their technocracy is an end in itself. They failed to respect any core of national spirit, the core of Enlightenment ethics, and have led themselves, and by propaganda, the public as well, into the ultimate dead-end of dismantling the West by promoting a value system based on self-guilt and worthlessness, to be atoned for by accepting openly suicidal economic and scientific policies.

    Here’s where “the choices that were made for Americans” have taken us:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4q6eaLn2mY

    • Replies: @Malla
  190. Erebus says:
    @Malla

    It seems Gramsci somehow got a copy of the Protocols while in prison.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  191. cassandra says:
    @Malla

    Thanks for the video; looks like Vertigo Politix has a bunch more to look over.

    With their critical theory, these guys have torn down existing core values. The elites are now free to impose ideas on the public, and persecute anyone who questions them. This renders the popular mind an ethical tabula rasa, an ideal medium on which propagandists can exercise their craft. I always thought that it was an obvious truism that ideas should be evaluated by critical thinking and free exchange, and now even this core Western principle is being rejected by politically-correct fashion mavens.

    And where is there evidence of any creative drive whatsoever? There’s no attempt to propose sensible reforms when appropriate, no intent to improve institutions. Even their art is destructive. Like the south border walls, what do they propose after they’ve torn them down? Are they driven by any positive creative inspiration or purpose? Evidently not.

    Early in my (scientific) career, I noticed that virtually no one in management was interested in improving their institution, only in pleasing their bosses or sponsors. It seemed like cronyism for cronyisms sake. At the time, I just thought I was being naive, but in retrospect I should have been as horrified then as I am now. This lack of an institutionally constructive spirit, or any ethic toward which social energy at large can be directed, is serious. Our only motivators are fear and panic.

    I don’t like the term Cultural Marxism, or for that matter, use of “communism” to describe this mindset. It’s destructive character transcends anything that Marx discussed. Maybe Cultural Destructism is more apt.

    • Replies: @Malla
  192. Malla says:
    @Erebus

    LOL, Yes it is the continuation of the same Talmudic mindset.

  193. Malla says:
    @cassandra

    Thanks for the video; looks like Vertigo Politix has a bunch more to look over.

    The Jew Tube Corporate Commissars scrubbed off his channel in their latest purges. But thanks to some resistance fighters, his videos were uploaded.

    And where is there evidence of any creative drive whatsoever? There’s no attempt to propose sensible reforms when appropriate, no intent to improve institutions.

    As the USA becomes more multiculturalism, multi racial and rejects its own traditional Western culture, it becomes more and more like India. What you described is India and the third world. So basically this is leading to the third worldification of the First World.

    I don’t like the term Cultural Marxism, or for that matter, use of “communism” to describe this mindset. It’s destructive character transcends anything that Marx discussed.

    I look at this as the continuation of the efforts of certain Jews in their hatred and destruction of traditional European (incl Russian)/ Western civilization. A civilization which creates pangs of hatred and jealousy in their hearts. Sigmund Fraud (misspelled on purpose) was driven by this hatred. His relatives Bernays was the kingpin of Public relations and propaganda. Sigmund Fraud hated Rome and frequently lamented the Punic Wars and dreamt of an alternative wishful history with Semitic Carthage destroying Rome. Rome here means not only Italy or the Catholic Church but what Rome has always meant to them, all of Europe (incl Russia) and other White countries.
    I also sense a similar hatred in them for the Far East, especially Japan.
    It is a long line of Jewish destroyers which includes Fraud, Marcuse, Hochheimer, Adorno.

  194. Malla says:
    @peterAUS

    I do not know about the intensity of the system in immigrant communities, hence the terseness. Many Westernised Indians in India do not follow it to that extent as what is followed in villages.

    This will give you an idea of things.

    https://thewire.in/caste/caste-discrimination-uk-theresa-may
    Hindu Groups in UK Hit Back at British Government’s Plans to Ban Caste-Based Discrimination

    Caste is rearing its ugly head again, this time in an unlikely place – the United Kingdom.

    …snip…

    It has called for public opinions on whether caste discrimination will be best tackled by a ban on it through a new law or not, a consultation which will end on September 18, after which the government will take a final call.

    However, the backlash from Hindu organisations, several of them close to the Sangh parivar, has been swift. They are livid at the government’s move and have threatened to derail it with all their might. This has now made the May government’s resolve in banning caste-based discrimination wobbly – it doesn’t want to appear to be taking on these vocal groups.

    …snip…

    A 2010 report commissioned by the British government laid bare the well-entrenched caste discrimination that exists amongst the Indian diaspora in the UK. The report highlighted many instances, from that of Indian-origin and former mayor of Coventry Ram Lakha alleging discrimination from the Indian community during his election because he belonged to the Chamar caste to a businessman seeing employees quit after he revealed that he belonged to the lower caste. In fact, the report details how certain sectors saw higher instances of such caste-based discrimination, especially education and the workplace.

    Meena Varma, the UK director of the Dalit Solidarity Network, a grouping of individuals and groups fighting against caste discrimination, said there was enough evidence of caste discrimination but there is little respite. “If you have not been the victim of caste discrimination, then naturally you think it doesn’t exist. Sadly, for those that have suffered there is no remedy or redressal in the current provisions if they are discriminated against based on their caste.”

    …snip…

    However, this position has been opposed by right-wing groups like the Hindu Council UK, which seeks to represent the interests of British Hindus in policymaking.

    …snip…

    Bhanot, from the Hindu Council, hints that the Modi regime won’t take too kindly to the anti-caste legislation. “The Indian High Commission has communicated to us its unhappiness at such a move and so has most of the Indian community because we believe this is an attempt to embarrass India.”
    My Comment:
    Oi Vey, we have been hearing about Islamic Fundamentalist crazies but the fundamentalists of the Hindu variety were hiding in the shadows all along.
    What is so interesting is that the Government of ‘racist, imperialist’ Britain is scared to offend any tom, dick and harry, foreign immigrant pressure group and their arrogant idiotic demands but ignores the nationalistic concerns of the native White Britons and bans their parties.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  195. Jazman [AKA "Sergey M"] says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    10 facts about Russia:

    27,8% of the population still has to rely on an outdoor toilet.
    Russia holds the largest amount of natural gas reserves in the world , but 31,5% of Russians still have no access to gas.
    Russia recycles only 4% of garbage. By some estimates, total amount of waste in the country is at least 60 billion tons. Total territory of landfills can be compared with the territory of European country such as Netherlands or Switzerland.
    Richest 3% russians hold 90% of country’s financial assets.
    The Russian population is decreasing by , or more than 250,000 people annually.
    22,6% of the population has no access to sewer.
    Oil and gas make up 59% of Russia’s exports.
    Russia has . The rate of teenage suicides in Russia is three times higher than the world average.
    World’s second highest rate of abortions.
    Russia is the biggest consumer of Afghan heroin with 21% of all the drug consumed in the world. There are about 2 million heroin users.

  196. Malla says:
    @Erebus

    It is interesting you mentioned the Protocols in reference to Cultural Marxism.

    This video does the same.

  197. Malla says:
    @Erebus

    And guess what?Cryto Rabbi Karl Mordechai er..sorry… Karl Marx was a cousin of the Rothschilds

    So basically the Capitalism Communism fake dichotomy which has ripped the world apart is basically Cousin in fighting. Marx vs Rothschild. We poor dumb goyim!!!!

  198. Malla says:
    @Jazman

    Russia is the biggest consumer of Afghan heroin with 21% of all the drug consumed in the world. There are about 2 million heroin users.

    This is actually very sinister. I was seeing this documentary on a drug called ‘krokodil’ which eventually makes the skin of the abuser reptilian in appearance . And in the same video they were talking about Afghan opium too. It seems when the Soviets went to Afghanistan, the Mujaheddin would try to drug Soviet soldiers by various means. Now the drugs have traveled across the Central Asian nations all the way to Russia. One Russian community worker who works with these drug victims had a feeling that there is a long term plan to push drugs on the Russian population by the Afghans (maybe backed up by Zio elites, we know how close they are to the drugs business, Sassoons )to drug as many Russians as possible and to empty out the land. The Russian Govt must crackdown on this, hard.

  199. @Jazman

    Just to demonstrate what a BS you post here (svidomy or liberda?) here is some data for you from 2017.

    You post:

    27,8% of the population still has to rely on an outdoor toilet. 22,6% of the population has no access to sewer.

    Here is data:

    First: Definition The percentage of population using at least basic sanitation services, that is, improved sanitation facilities that are not shared with other households. This indicator encompasses both people using basic sanitation services as well as those using safely managed sanitation services. Improved sanitation facilities include flush/pour flush toilets connected to piped sewer systems, septic tanks or pit latrines; pit latrines with slabs (including ventilated pit latrines), and composting toilets.

    Now the picture:

    And now a bit of explanation–huge numbers of Russians, in tens of millions, have dachas. The country side homes of farms many of which have outhouses (many have internal plumbing) and this is the number which dilutes, when added to statistics, what universally today is a very high level sanitation and internal plumbing. And even this data is notoriously “late”. Now, if you would, count what is 90% and what is 10% of population of 146 million? It is 14.6 million. So, how does this add to 22.3% “having no access” to the sewer.

    The only thing you are correct is Russia’s problems with drug use, with around 8 000 000 people officially designated as full blown users or those who tried. Having said that, it is not only Russia’s problem. The last picture.

    So, good luck researching Russia’s life expectancy growth in the last 10 years. Before continuing with your research, however, read this–it may enlighten you.

    https://ccisf.org/russia-is-not-the-enemy-2/

    • Replies: @Jazman
  200. @Malla

    Nope, this theory is a fail. European nations did not depend much economically on their colonies, once their societies became industrialized.

    People in London may be surprised with this assertion. It also applies to people in D.C. You know, colonial trade, import-export and all that mambo-jumbo.

  201. peterAUS says:
    @Malla

    Informative.

    As for

    …. scared to offend any tom, dick and harry, foreign immigrant pressure group and their arrogant idiotic demands but ignores the nationalistic concerns of the native White Britons and bans their parties.

    well, that’s The Game. The only one which really matters, for some of us here.

  202. @Erebus

    Well there you go again

    “If Rothschild saw trends…”

    “From Rothschold’s point of view…”

    This mythical symbolic person, who might as well be your fantasy Keyser Soze, is a single figure with single motivation. Contrast a picture from the real world

    Lionel Nathan de Rothschild, OBE, also Major Lionel de Rothschild, was a British banker and Conservative politician best remembered as the creator of Exbury Gardens by the New Forest in Hampshire. He was the eldest son of Leopold de Rothschild (1845–1917) and a part of the prominent Rothschild banking family of England. In 1910, he was elected to the House of Commons. *In 1917, he co-founded the anti-Zionist League of British Jews*.

  203. @Malla

    Very interesting comment.

    In the 80’s we had the Moral Majority.
    Now we have the Pseudo-Majority Fringe Coalition,
    A very powerful force with the potential to start a civil war.

    The Russia Hoax would seem to be the nonsense shibboleth:
    If you believe Trump is a Russian puppet you belong; else you are outside the Party and not a loyal ‘Murikan, i.e. an enemy of the state. Mass media continue to preach the hoax and seek impeachment.

    Was in Moscow in 1989. Shibboleth posters and Communist platitudes were on all the buildings. Store shelves were bare, but loyalty posters everywhere. Looks and sounds more and more familiar in ‘Murika 2019.

    Solzhenitsyn practically begged Americans to learn from the Russian experience. But the ‘Murkan Gramsciites very effectively suppress learning and promote essentially Communist propaganda.

    When the economy collapses or world war takes place,
    will a Communist government emerge from the wreckage?
    Or will deluded ‘Murikans vote it in in 2020 or ’24?

    • Replies: @Malla
  204. Erebus says:
    @Malla

    As Moldbug put it: in many ways nonsense is a more effective organizing tool than the truth.

    Or as George Orwell put it:“2+2=5”.

    Or, more elegantly, as Voltaire was alleged to have put it:
    “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities”

    • Agree: Andrei Martyanov
  205. Avery says:
    @Jazman

    Would be more useful for you to provide the source(s) of the information in your post.
    (or the misinformation, or the disinformation). Some of it may be true: I don’t know.
    But throwing a bunch of numbers and a bunch of assertions from who knows where and who knows what year is not very convincing.

    Poster [Martyanov] already debunked your misinformation/disinformation about outdoor/indoor toilets – with a verifiable, public source: what else in your post is dated information or simply wrong information.

    Finally: I have been reading UNZ.com for many years. I don’t remember anyone – including those of Russian ancestry – claiming Russia has no faults. In fact columnist Karlin regularly points out what’s wrong (and what’s right) with Russia today. So, what are you trying to prove with your post?

    • Replies: @Jazman
  206. Johan says:

    China is a state of puppets, the people there are enslaved puppets, China has its hands full on building a technological zombie-slave utopia, it is by no means a normal state, being so large, it has its hands full with its internal affairs though. It is heading in the same direction as is the intention in the Western world, though much more smoothly than in the so called free Western world.

  207. Jazman [AKA "Sergey M"] says:
    @Avery

    Russia’s Demographic Decline Accelerates, Increasingly Because of Moscow’s Own Policies – Jamestown https://jamestown.org/program/russias-demographic-decline-accelerates-increasingly-because-of-moscows-own-policies/

    • Replies: @Avery
  208. Jazman [AKA "Sergey M"] says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Just imagine – a poor country with median salary about $520 per month pays a whooping $661.200 per day or $242 millions per year in presidential expenses! Only one day costs like 1.271 monthly salaries of ordinary Russians (or 106 years of work).

    Remember his limousine?

    This car was developed (or copied?) from scratch specially for the president. The total cost was around $364 millions ($182 millions from the budget), a little expensive don’t you think?

    But we just started. Coming next, his airplane.

    Putin has 4 airplanes in total, but uses only one at the time. The total cost of the plane is unknown, but some experts say around $300–400 millions. But maybe I’m exaggerating? Let’s take a closer look at airplane interiors:

    YES! The fucking gym inside the fucking plane. Have you ever seen that?

    Just a normal king-size bed, you know.

    Legend says that Putin, while sitting at this table with other comrades, making plans on how to protect the world from America. Zionists and hidden government shall not pass!

    Then, after exhausting battles with zionists he walks right into the bathroom.

    Who needs a normal toilet? If you can be a rockstar and have a gold-plated toilet. Only the toilet itself costs around $75.000.

    Just a normal kitchen. On the plane. You think that’s all? Think again!

    The plane is being guarded by 6 jets! SIX JETS, CARL!

    But what about housing? Putin officially have 12 residences all across the Russia. 4 for formal receptions, the other 8 for recreation purposes. For example, the biggest one – Valday has 2 restaurants, one church, bowling and swimming pool inside of it.

    Just to compare:

    Russia spends on sport $783m per year (or like 3 Putin).
    Russia spends on ecology $1.1b per year (or like 5 Putin).
    Russia spends on culture $2.2b per year (or 9 Putins)

  209. Malla says:
    @SeekerofthePresence

    Very interesting comment.

    Thanks. I just quoted from the website.

    Solzhenitsyn practically begged Americans to learn from the Russian experience.

    Unfortunately most average Americans did not read Solzhenitsyn. Americans have had a lot of warnings but most Americans trust their boobtubes and hollywierd.

    will a Communist government emerge from the wreckage?

    That seems the likely plan.

  210. Malla says:
    @cassandra

    Representative Democracy is a scam. The only democracy worth having is the Swiss style referendum system where there would have to be referendums with regard to declaration of wars, immigration etc…

  211. Avery says:
    @Jazman

    Your source about Russia is [jamestown.org]?
    You must be joking.

    jamestown.org is a notorious Globalist, Neocon, anti-Christian (read anti-Russian), Islamophile, Turkophile propaganda and disinformation organ.

    btw: I am quite familiar with jamestown.org board member Mathew Bryza and the author of the article Paul Goble, from their days and efforts to snuff out (Christian) Republic of Armenia …whoring for Caspian Turks, aka Azerbaijan.

    https://jamestown.org/analyst/paul-goble/

    [Paul Goble is a longtime specialist on ethnic and religious questions in Eurasia. Most recently, he was director of research and publications at the Azerbaijan Diplomatic Academy]
    [Prior to joining the faculty there in 2004, he served in various capacities in the U.S. State Department, the Central Intelligence Agency and the International Broadcasting Bureau as well as at the Voice of America and Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty]

    [he has been decorated by the governments of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania for his work in promoting Baltic independence and the withdrawal of Russian forces from those formerly occupied lands.] Oh yeah: quite an independent (sic) and unbiased (sic) observer and writer on Russia.

    The anti-Russian disinformation is right there: it was not, quote, ‘Russian’ forces; it was SOVIET forces, who were there as a result of Nazi German invasion of Soviet Union, and their eventual defeat. All three Baltic republics enthusiastically participated in Nazi effort to exterminate Slavs/Russians. Their ethnic SS murdering units are fondly remembered and celebrated today in the Baltic republics.

    Given your one clearly biased source about one metric about Russia – its population – and no sources for the other assertions in your original post – not only you have not proven your case, but you have shown yourself to be nothing more than a peddler of cheap anti-Russian disinformation.

  212. @Avery

    “It is ridiculous to call it, quote, ‘genocide’: it is suicide, by the natives themselves.”

    That’s the same basic lie repeated any time Americans protest their own cultural overthrow:

    “Oh, no. We are doing it to ourselves by electing the wrong people”, say the shills.

    The electoral process is totally contaminated to the point that votes and voters are meaningless. The “wrong people” are foisted upon the voters by the controllers of elections.

    That’s what is happening in the UK, and in the US. This is being done TO the voters, not BY the voters. It is genocide.

    • Replies: @Avery
  213. Beckow says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    I agree that we live in the world created in WWII. Everything around us was fundamentally shaped by WWII.

    The reason Western elites have lately started to deconstruct WWII or try to dismiss it as ancient history, is in the actual history of that war: it was everything that West is trying to forget, lie about, or minimize.

    They will not stop – the narrative of WWII as it happened can’t coexist with the current geopolitics, there is an awkwardness about the way French, Anglos and most nations in Europe behaved. The attempt to focus only on Normandy and airplane production, with only human interest being sanctified Holocaust, is a transparent way to avoid what really happened. Somehow Russia has to be either blamed for it all, or considered insignificant.

    I fully expect that the above themes will over time merge into a story of evil Russians invading Poland and commit Holocaust. Then Churchill invaded and saved the world. And French are forever grateful, especially the women… As Goebbels said if you repeat a lie often enough…

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  214. @Jazman

    Russia spends on sport $783m per year (or like 3 Putin).
    Russia spends on ecology $1.1b per year (or like 5 Putin).
    Russia spends on culture $2.2b per year (or 9 Putins)

    OK, dude, I got it. Why don’t you add Die Deutsche Wochenschau to your list of “sources”–wouldn’t make any difference. You are either Hasbara or a simple Ukie (or Baltic) troll with a severe case of chronic butt-hurt. Have a nice life.

  215. @Beckow

    They will not stop – the narrative of WWII as it happened can’t coexist with the current geopolitics, there is an awkwardness about the way French, Anglos and most nations in Europe behaved. The attempt to focus only on Normandy and airplane production, with only human interest being sanctified Holocaust, is a transparent way to avoid what really happened. Somehow Russia has to be either blamed for it all, or considered insignificant.

    Well put. That is why only naive people cannot see what is going on and, most importantly, WHY.

    I fully expect that the above themes will over time merge into a story of evil Russians invading Poland and commit Holocaust. Then Churchill invaded and saved the world. And French are forever grateful, especially the women… As Goebbels said if you repeat a lie often enough…

    It is happening already and, in fact, there is a whole industry in the West of all kinds of “historians” whose ONLY task is to promote a “narrative”. Some of them are useful idiots, others are calculating cynics.

  216. Jazman [AKA "Hendrex"] says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    And let me explain something to you about stealth and jamming. They’re synergistic. If your SU-35 has an RCS of .1M^2 and my F-35 has an RCS of .0001m^2, then your SU-35 needs 1,000 times the jamming power of my F-35 to provide the same masking. Conversely, my F-35 needs 1/1000th of the jamming power. …… That is why the F-35 has jamming, not because it’s stealth is inferior. …… And the F-35 has a lot more EW tricks than just jamming, like Cyber Attacks and False Targets.

    And let’s not forget that the APG-81 AESA radar on the F-35 can focus it’s radar beams like a laser, and can fry electronics at “tactically significant ranges”.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
    , @FB
  217. Avery says:
    @Twodees Partain

    {It is genocide.}

    Sorry, it isn’t.

    If you want to know what (real) Genocide is read:
    http://www.unz.com/article/the-real-holocaust-the-1915-armenian-genocide-and-its-russophobic-origins/?highlight=1915-armenian-genocide

    I know it has become fashionable to call everything “genocide’ these days.
    Same as: everything is ‘Rape’, or every killing is ‘Murder’,….
    And everything is, quote, ‘Genocide’.
    Nonsense.
    Example: the Cambodian “genocide” was NOT a genocide: it is not physically possible for one ethnos to commit genocide against itself. Eventually you run out of your own people to murder your own kin, and then the so-called “genocide” peters out.

    However, one ethnos can physically wipe out another ethnos. If Nazi Germans had not been defeated, they had the means and the ability to wipe out pretty much all the Slavs West of the Urals. And Turks, of course, wiped out most of (Christian) Armenians (…and Christian Assyrians, and Christian Greeks) from Asia Minor.

    Going back to UK and US: people in UK and Western Europe* have become decadent. They have abandoned their national and Christian roots. They no longer care. That is why they go along like sheep*, while their so-called “leaders” (actually Globalist Sorosa-agents) are destroying their nations. French had the chance to elect a genuine French patriot, but elected globalist Macron.

    US is not far behind. “Whites” in US are debasing themselves: nobody is putting a gun to their heads. Mentally challenged “Beto” O’Rourke is on national stage blaming “whites” for everything. All (“White”) front runners of Democrat party for POTUS are openly advocating for open borders. And the long list of suicidal debasement goes on, and on, and on,……

    _____________
    * see next post.

    • Replies: @Avery
  218. Avery says:
    @Avery

    * Eastern Europeans, on the other hand, have not forgotten their national and Christian roots.
    Poland and Hungary, for example, are being subjected to immense Globalist pressure and manipulation from Brussels to open their borders to Muslims.
    So far the Globalists have failed to gain a toehold in Eastern Europe.
    How is it that Poland, member of EU, can have something like this:

    [Poland to Muslims: ” Here, Jesus is our King so get out “]

  219. Jazman [AKA "John Erker"] says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    [Using multiple Handles is strictly prohibited. All your comments have been merged, and if you henceforth try concealing your identity, your future comments may be trashed.]

    The regular German Army demolished the Soviet Army at the beginning of the German attack and did so for nearly a year, killing and capturing millions as well as taking vast amounts of Russian territory reaching the suburbs of Moscow. Then what happened, winter set in and the Germans were not prepared, personnel and equipment. With vast amounts of American food and military aid reaching the USSR along with the Russian winter, gave the Soviet Army breathing room in order to reorganize their forces. Some historians even speculate, had Germany invaded the USSR earlier and had not faced the Russian winter when they did, it would have defeated the USSR. The quasi war between Russia and Japan was a joke as Japan had no plans to become involved in a land war with the USSR when they were in fact planning an attack on the USA along the acquisition of vast amounts of territory in Asia was the initial attack on the USA was undertaken. As far as your allegation American Forces fought third rate German troops is reflective of pure ignorance. When the Western allies launched their attack on German occupied Europe, Hitler pulled hundreds of thousands of first rate troops off the Russian front [Hitler still believed Germany would defeat the USSR] relieving the pressure there. We saw no Russian military forces fighting in the Pacific, Stalin left it up to the Western allies, the USA, Great Britain and Australia primarily. American Navy, Marines, Air Force and Army troops devastated the Japanese beginning with the Battle of Midway in June 1942. All the territory taken by the Japanese was regained and millions of Japanese were killed in all the battles including the final attack on the Japanese homeland. And one also has to remember the USA was a pacifist nation up until December 7, 1942 unlike much of Europe and Japan who’s entire history revolved around war among themselves including Russia

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  220. @Jazman

    USA was a pacifist nation up until December 7, 1942

    Dude, I understand that trolls like you know it all and are butt hurt badly, but Pearl Harbor attack happened exactly a year earlier, namely December 7, 1941.

  221. peterAUS says:
    @Jazman

    Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi.

    All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

    It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

  222. FB says: • Website
    @Jazman

    ‘Jazman’…aka Sergey M…aka Hendrex…aka Trnovac…aka John Erker…

    That’s FOUR sockpuppet accounts you have tried to set up here…

    What kind of person has a need to deceive people…?

    You also don’t care about the rules here…which prompted a warning from the moderator…

    [Using multiple Handles is strictly prohibited. All your comments have been merged, and if you henceforth try concealing your identity, your future comments may be trashed.]

    So we see that we are dealing with a ‘person’ of quite low character…but also one who is quite stupid…since you are not even smart enough to make your sockpuppet attempts work…

    That is the really fascinating part for me…are you mentally retarded that you get busted so easily on the anonymous internet…?

    Now not only are you a liar with below average intelligence, but you think you can come on here and spray bullshit…

    Here’s what you wrote to me just today on another thread, posing under the sockpuppet handle of ‘Trnovac’… about your supposed ‘qualifications…’

    Credentials & Highlights
    Test Engineer2017-present
    Studied Electrical Engineering & Electronics
    Lives in Ljubljana, Slovenia

    Is that right, little troll creature…’Test Engineer’ no less…?

    LOLOLOL

    But right here in this comment you said this…

    And let’s not forget that the APG-81 AESA radar on the F-35 can focus it’s radar beams like a laser, and can fry electronics at “tactically significant ranges”

    Tell you what Pee Wee…if you ever cracked open an electrical engineering book, then I’m the fucking Queen of England…

    There’s absolutely zero truth to this, and EVERY actual engineer would know that…

    First of all because of the low power of onboard fighter radars, the amount of microwave band radio energy that they can apply is quite miniscule…not more than about 10 kW peak power…which is equivalent to eight 1,200 watt microwave ovens…

    Also considering that radio waves lose power by the square of distance from the radiator [inverse square law]…

    AND…that air to air missile electronics are quite well shielded to protect their electronics from disruption by electromagnetic means…your statement is total nonsense…

    Here’s a more thorough technical discussion about this from Dr Carlo Kopp’s website…

    First you’ll note that no one has ever even contemplated ‘frying’ an enemy aircraft radar or electronics…but only an incoming AA missile at very close range…

    A senior US Air Force officer was quoted in the September 5, 2005, issue of Aviation Week & Space Technology, thus: “AESA radars on fighter aircraft aren’t particularly suited to create weapons effects on missiles because of limited antenna size, power and field of view…

    The bottom line in this game is that other than some very specific missile types with X-band antennas, and specific vulnerabilities in particular active radar guided or infrared homing missiles, the opportunities to deliver lethal electrical damage with forseeable fighter radar technology will not be many.

    The defensive countermeasures an opposing missile designer can apply are neither expensive nor technically difficult to implement. Most would not require replacement of the missile seeker, but rather depot level fixes which could be applied during scheduled missile servicings.

    So much for ‘Trnovac’ and his ‘qualifications’….LOLOLOL

    But that doesn’t stop your sorry ass from attempting to lecture Mr. Martyanov…a former naval officer [USSR] and widely acknowledged expert who writes for the Naval Institute and has published two extremely well received books about recent weapons developments…including rave reviews from prominent people like Paul Craig Roberts and many others…

    And let me explain something to you about stealth and jamming…

    …little sockpuppet man begins…what fucking nerve…what the fuck are you going to ‘explain’ you retarded little tree monkey…?

    Let me ask you something ‘Jazman’…how do you think all of this looks on you…?

    This forum is full of intelligent commenters [and of course some dummies, plus of course the usual trolls]…but even the dummies and trolls are at least honest enough and do not try to fuck with sockpuppetry…

    That is just unbelievable stupidity…idiot level in fact…

    Oh and btw…’Jazman/Trnovac’…from Ljubljana, Slovenia…

    I traveled to Ljubljana in the 1980s…visited Bled, where we toured the Bled Castle high on an impressive rock promontory overlooking Lake Bled…also the amazing Postojna Cave complex, which is so huge that tourists ride through the kilometeres-long caverns in little trains…

    I never met any mentally retarded Slovenians, but I guess your existence proves there are some [either that or your Slovenia claim is just more BS on top of an already impressive pile]…

    I did find the Slovenians a little less friendly than Croats and Serbs [the waiters in Ljubljana walked around like they had a cucumber stuck up their ass]…but generally not much difference from the warmth and vitality I noted with all South Slavs…

    I think now would be a good time to start packing…your presence here on UNZ is a fucking joke that’s sadly not very funny…

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  223. Saker’s lies and idiocy continue apace. He just can’t get over the fact that Ukraine is independent and his hero, Putin, is an inveterate liar.

    Your Russophobia doesn’t exist Saker. It’s long past time for you to grow up. The truth is not “Russophobic,” although it may seem that way to a drooling fanboy like yourself.

  224. FB says: • Website
    @FB

    Regarding our sockpuppet friend ‘Jazman’…just found a FIFTH sockpuppet attempt on this forum…

    We can add ‘Jack Zhang’ to the list of ‘Sergey M…’Hendrex’…’Trnovac’…and ‘John Erker’ [‘Jerker’ for short…]

    Amazing…well done to the UNZ technical people for foiling these little dirtballs…and keeping this forum honest…

  225. Miro23 says:
    @FB

    Another wrinkle that I haven’t mentioned is that drones launched locally could be used to guide such cruise missiles precisely to the target…this is a simple matter of equipping such drones to broadcast a radio signal onto which the cruise missile would home…

    Such drones could be quite small and inconspicuous [similar to the store-bought variety, perhaps a bit biger] and would simply transmit a radio signal on the ‘non-directional beacon’ frequency, which has been used in aviation for many decades…

    Low cost aviation nav radios would be used on board the missile to track right to the signal coming from a drone circling above the target…the radio band is similar to AM radio and the equipment is really quite simple…this would give pinpoint accuracy…

    The Houthis did mention that they had helpers inside KSA…

    This is interesting because the hits were very precise with little error.

  226. bluedog says:
    @A123

    Save the christian b.s. for another day the U.S. is about as christian as the head cutters in Saudi Arabia,the only thing the so called christians love are those little green peices of paper with ole Ben’s face on it, which comes waaay ahead of their fellow humans,and as for Russia getting sucked into this holyness forget it they are way smarter than that.!!!

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