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This Spring saw a sudden increase in the volume of articles in the so-called “alternative media and blogosphere” about Putin “selling out” Syria or Iran to the Israelis and their US patrons, or both. What was particularly interesting about this campaign is that it was not triggered by any kind of event or statement by Putin or any other senior Russian decision-makers. True, Israeli politicians made numerous trips to Russia, but each time they walked away without anything tangible to show for their efforts. As for their Russian counterparts, they limited themselves to vague and well-intentioned statements. Nonetheless, the “Putin sold out to Netanyahu” campaign did not stop. Every meeting was systematically interpreted as The Clear Proof that the Zionists control the Kremlin and that Putin was doing Netanyahu’s bidding. The fact that this campaign began ex nihilo did not seem to bother most observers. Soon I started getting steady streams of emails asking me to react to these articles. My reply was always the same one: let’s do the opposite of what these supposed “specialists” are doing and wait for the facts to come out and only then form an opinion.

Truth be told, I had already tackled that canard in my article “Why is Putin “allowing” Israel to bomb Syria.” I also had tried to debunk some of the most persistent and toxic falsehoods about Russia and Israel in my article “Putin and Israel: A Complex and Multi-Layered Relationship.” I also wrote an article entitled “Is Putin Really Ready to “Ditch” Iran?” trying to debunk that stupid theory. Finally, I even tried to compare and contrast the Russian approach towards Israel (which I qualified as “self-interest”) with the attitude of the “collective West” (which I qualified as “prostitution”) in an article entitled “Russia, Israel and the Values of “Western Civilization” – Where Is the Truth?”.

I was naïve to think that any of my arguments would elicit any doubts amongst the “Putin is a traitor” crowd. After all, if being wrong for years could not convince them otherwise, no rational argument would.

Then, news agencies began to report that General Nikolai Patrushev, the Director of the Russian Federal Security Service and the Secretary of the Security Council of Russia, would travel to Israel to meet with John Bolton and Bibi Netanyahu. At this point, the steady stream of concerned emails suddenly turned into a deluge! After all, why would such a high-ranking (and rather secretive) Russian official travel to Israel to meet two of the worst and most evil politicians of the Anglo-Zionist Empire? Surely, he had something important to say, no? The consensus (of sorts) was that Patrushev would sell out Iran and Syria in exchange for some (entirely theoretical, quite unlikely and inevitably vague) “concessions” on the Ukraine, Crimea or sanctions.

My reply remained the same. Let’s wait until these folks actually meet and let’s see if their meeting brings about something significant (as a rule, I find getting facts an essential first step before engaging in any analysis; apparently, my detractors feel otherwise).

So, again, I decided to wait.

Then something weird happened: the meeting took place, it was even reported (albeit mostly in general terms), the participants issued their statements and… …nothing. The outcome of the “Jerusalem summit” was greeted by a deafening silence and a few vapid commentaries. My first hunch was that, as the Russian saying goes, the “mountain had given birth to a mouse” and that nothing of importance came out of the summit. Boy, was I ever wrong!

The official Russian position on Iran

The summit did indeed produce something of vital significance, but for some reason, the most senior-official statement on Iran that any Russian decision-maker ever made received very little attention. Unless you happened to be a Saker blog reader, you would never find out about it.

See for yourself and click here: http://thesaker.is/russias-patrushev-holds-press-conference-following-russia-us-israeli-talks/ for both the video and the transcript.

To my knowledge, this is the only full-length English language transcript of Patrushev’s statement. (Ruptly posted a video dubbed in English, but it was hardly noticed. As for the transcript, to my knowledge it was never reposted in full).

Which is too bad, since the following words have now been spoken by one of the most authorized and high-ranking Russian officials to date: (emphasis added)

“We have emphasized an importance of easing of the tensions for the country (Syria) between Israel and Iran, by the way of implementation the mutual approaching steps. We have made an emphasis that Syria must not be turned into an arena for geopolitical confrontation. We have also highlighted the need for the international community to help Syria to rebuild its national economy. Among other things, Syria should be free of illegal trade restrictions, unilateral sanctions, as well as sanctions on economic operators that help Syria to rebuild. They also have to be free from all sanctions.

We also turned everyone’s attention to the relations of Syria and other Arab states that should be normalized again. Syria is once again should be a full-fledged member of the Arab League. Also, we pointed out an importance of establishing the contacts of Syrian government with its Kurdish ethnic minority. We stated of importance to unite the efforts to eliminate all remaining in Syria terrorists. We called for immediate disruption of all channels through which terrorists might be able to obtain weapon grade chemical materials and their precursors.

Russia, the United States and Israel should join their efforts to help peace to return to Syria.

In the context of the statements made by our partners with regard to a major regional power, namely Iran, I would like to say the following: Iran has always been and remains our ally and partner, with which we are consistently developing relations both on bilateral basis and within multilateral formats,

ORDER IT NOW

This is why we believe that it is inadmissible to describe Iran as the major threat to the regional security and, moreover, to put it on par with the Islamic State or any other terrorist organization, Especially, since Iran contributes substantial efforts to bring peace to Syria and to stabilize the situation in Syria.

We have called on our partners to show restraint and readiness for reciprocal steps, which must serve as the basis for the consistent advancement towards the easing of tensions in the Israeli-Iranian relations”

To my knowledge, this is the very first time that Russia has officially declared Iran not only as a partner but as an ally! A few days later, President Putin confirmed that this was an official position which had his imprimatur when he stated in his interview to the FT that:

“We have established sufficiently good business-like relations with all regional countries, and our positions in the Middle East region have become more stable. Indeed, we have established very good, business-like, partner-like and largely allied relations with many regional countries, including Iran, Turkey and other countries”

This is absolutely huge, especially considering that, unlike Eltsin’s “democratic” Russia or western politicians, Putin does not abandon his allies (if anything, he sometimes defends them for too long even when they have been found guilty of dishonorable actions). Let me repeat this:

Russia has declared that Iran is her ally.

The official Russian position on Syria

Next, let’s parse the Patrushev statement once again for some specifics about Syria:

  1. Israel does not get to impose its will upon Syria. (“Syria must not be turned into an arena for geopolitical confrontation “).
  2. All sanctions against Syria must be lifted. (“Syria should be free of illegal trade restrictions, unilateral sanctions, as well as sanctions on economic operators that help Syria to rebuild. They also have to be free from all sanctions“).
  3. The Arab League must fully reinstate Syria. (“Syria once again should be a fully-fledged member of the Arab League”).
  4. All the remaining terrorists in Syria must be eliminated. (“unite the efforts to eliminate all remaining terrorists in Syria”).

It sure looks to me that Russia’s commitment to Syria’s integrity and freedom is as strong as ever.

Does that look to you like Russia and Israel are working hand-in-hand in Syria?

If so, please read the following for a quick reality check (excerpt from this article):

The initial AngloZionist plan was to overthrow Assad and replace him with the Takfiri crazies (Daesh, al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, ISIS – call them whatever you want). Doing this would achieve the following goals:

  1. Bring down a strong secular Arab state along with its political structure, armed forces, and security services.
  2. Create total chaos and horror in Syria justifying the creation of a “security zone” by Israel not only in the Golan but further north.
  3. Trigger a civil war in Lebanon by unleashing the Takfiri crazies against Hezbollah.
  4. Let the Takfiris and Hezbollah bleed each other to death, then create a “security zone,” but this time in Lebanon.
  5. Prevent the creation of a Shia axis Iran-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon.
  6. Break up Syria along ethnic and religious lines.
  7. Create a Kurdistan which could then be used against Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran.
  8. Make it possible for Israel to become the uncontested power broker in the Middle-East and force the KSA, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait, and all others to have to go to Israel for any gas or oil pipeline project.
  9. Gradually isolate, threaten, subvert, and eventually attack Iran with a broad regional coalition of forces.
  10. Eliminate all center of Shia power in the Middle-East.

That was an ambitious plan, but the Israelis felt pretty confident that their US vassal-state would provide the resources needed to achieve it. Now this entire plan has collapsed due to the very high effectiveness of an informal but yet formidable alliance between Russia, Iran, Syria, and Hezbollah. To say that the Israelis are seething with rage and in a state of total panic would be an understatement. Do you think I am exaggerating? Then look at it from the Israeli point of view:

  1. The Syrian state has survived, and its armed and security forces are now far more capable than they were before the war started (remember how they *almost* lost the war initially? The Syrians bounced back while learning some very hard lessons. By all reports, they improved tremendously, while at critical moments Iran and Hezbollah were literally “plugging holes” in the Syrian frontlines and “extinguishing fires” on local flashpoints. Now the Syrians are doing a very good job of liberating large chunks of their country, including every single city in Syria).
  2. Not only is Syria stronger, but the Iranians and Hezbollah are all over the country now, which is driving the Israelis into a state of panic and rage.
  3. Lebanon is rock solid; even the latest Saudi attempt to kidnap Hariri is backfiring.
  4. Syria will remain unitary, and Kurdistan is not happening. Millions of displaced refugees are returning home.
  5. Israel and the US look like total idiots and, even worse, as losers with no credibility left.

The simple truth is that Russia foiled ALL the Israeli plans for Syria. All of them!

This is an extremely important statement. It is also a somewhat ambiguous one since “ally” means different things to different people. The Allied Powers during WWII included the Anglo nations and the Soviet Union, which did not prevent the western powers from plotting and conspiring to attack and destroy their putative “ally” (who happened to have destroyed about 80% of the Nazi war machine).

For those who need a reminder of how the West treats its allies, here is a small memento with three examples of how the West planned to “solve the Russian problem”:

  • Plan Totality (1945): earmarked 20 Soviet cities for obliteration in a first strike: Moscow, Gorki, Kuybyshev, Sverdlovsk, Novosibirsk, Omsk, Saratov, Kazan, Leningrad, Baku, Tashkent, Chelyabinsk, Nizhny Tagil, Magnitogorsk, Molotov, Tbilisi, Stalinsk, Grozny, Irkutsk, and Yaroslavl.
  • Operation Unthinkable (1945) assumed a surprise attack by up to 47 British and American divisions in the area of Dresden, in the middle of Soviet lines. This represented almost a half of roughly 100 divisions (ca. 2.5 million men) available to the British, American and Canadian headquarters at that time. The majority of any offensive operation would have been undertaken by American and British forces, as well as Polish forces and up to 100,000 German Wehrmacht soldiers.
  • Operation Dropshot (1949): included mission profiles that would have used 300 nuclear bombs and 29,000 high-explosive bombs on 200 targets in 100 cities and towns to wipe out 85% of the Soviet Union’s industrial potential at a single stroke. Between 75 and 100 of the 300 nuclear weapons were targeted to destroy Soviet combat aircraft on the ground.

I could also list all the so-called “allies” the West has ditched, betrayed and even murdered since WWII, but that would take too many pages

So what does Russia mean exactly when she says that Iran is her “ally”?

Patrushev uses the words партнер (partner) and союзник (ally). Just as in English, the word “partner” evokes some community of interests and collaboration but is generally value-neutral. This is why Russian politicians sometimes even speak of countries hostile to Russia as “partners.” Not only are they sarcastic, but “partner” does not invoke any particular feeling or moral obligation on anybody’s part. Partner is just a polite word, nothing more.

The word “ally,” however, is a much stronger one which implies not only common interests but also a real, sincere friendship and a common stance against a common enemy. Unless it is used sarcastically, the term “soiuznik” strongly implies a mutual moral obligation.

It remains unclear what that really means in the case of Iran and Russia. Theoretically, having a common enemy attack one of the members of an alliance (“soiuz”) could mean that Russia would intervene and offer military support or even directly intervene herself. I doubt that Patrushev (or anyone else in the Kremlin) has this kind of intervention in mind, if only for one reason which is that there would be very little, if any, popular support for a war against the US for the sake of Iran. A much more realistic interpretation of Patrushev’s words would be that:

  1. Russia will not “sell-out” Iran to anybody in any way, shape or form.
  2. If Iran is attacked, Russia will offer her total support short of any direct military intervention.

Total support short of any direct military intervention is what the USSR offered the DPRK and, even more so, to Vietnam, and in both cases, the West was eventually defeated. Also, “short of any direct military intervention” does not mean “no military aid”: sending military equipment and instructors, is also below the threshold of “direct military intervention,” as would be the case with political and economic support. Furthermore, Russia has formidable intelligence and reconnaissance capabilities which could play a crucial role in helping Iran resist an AngloZionist attack (look at what Russian radars, electronic warfare, and battle management systems have done to the effectiveness of US and Israeli attacks against Syria!).

Let’s also remember the nature of the Iranian theater of military operations: Iran is a huge country with a very large population (80M+). What this means is that Iran cannot be taken over in a ground invasion. That, in turn, means that the resistance of the Iranian people will never be crushed. And that, in turn, means that there is no need for Russia to prevent a military takeover of Iran. All Russia needs to do is to give Iran the means to effectively resist and the rest will happen naturally (just like Hezbollah did in 2006 against Israel when Iran did not intervene directly and militarily, but simply gave Hezbollah the means to beat back the “only Jewish democracy in the Middle-East”).

Besides, Iranians are fiercely patriotic, and they would probably not welcome any visible Russian military intervention in their country anyway (they won’t say “no” to covert aid, especially not the IRGC). This is a wise approach, especially when compared to cowardly little statelets which always want one occupier to boot out a previous occupier (think Poland, the Baltic statelets or the Nazi-occupied Ukraine nowadays).

Finally, Russia is not acting by herself or in a vacuum: the Chinese have made numerous statements (see here, here or here) showing that Iran also has their backing, which resulted in a state of consternated shock amongst MAGA fanboys. The fact that the US’s “European allies” seemed to be getting cold feet about this entire project (attacking Iran on behalf of Israel, blowing-up the entire Middle-East while bringing down the world economy) only adds to their distress.

The USN should rent out a few transport/amphibious assault ships, fill them up with Polaks, Balts, Ukies, and Georgians and send them to fight for “the US” (i.e., for Israel, of course). After all, these folks are locked in a desperate competition to see who of them can brown-nose the Empire the deepest, so why not give them a way to prove their unfailing loyalty to “western values” and the rest of the propaganda nonsense the legacy corporate Ziomedia feeds us (and them!) on a daily basis

Will any of the above affect the “Putin is a traitor” or “Putin works for Bibi” crowd?

Facts? No! Who needs facts?

No, most probably not. What they will do is just ignore Patrushev’s very official statement just like they have ignored all the facts since they began predicting a “Grand Russian Betrayal” for no less than 5 years now, even if proved wrong every time: remember their whining about Syria “losing” its (utterly useless, dangerous and expensive to destroy) chemical weapons? What about their whining about Russia not doing enough for Novorussia? Or their whining about the Russians being “soft” on Israel after the Israelis caused the loss of a Russian recon aircraft? All these folks who present to us the “proof” that Putin, Bolton, and Netanyahu are “in cahoots”, and have predicted that Patrushev would “sell out” are now very busy looking somewhere else for evidence of Russia’s subservience to Israel.

At the time of writing (July 2nd), the Israelis have yet again conducted an airstrike on Syria, killing four people including a baby. The MI6 sponsored “The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights” reported that “at least ten targets were hit in Damascus while a scientific research center and a military airbase were attacked in Homs.” Sounds quite impressive, no?

Actually, no.

For one thing, to evaluate the effectiveness of an airstrike, you don’t list targets, you make a bomb damage assessment (BDA) to ascertain what in reality sustained a hit, and how severely. Now, the Zionist propaganda always issues triumphant reports about how the invincible Israeli air force can make minced meat out of any Russian (or other) air defense system. Some, for example, have already concluded that the Israelis have “neutralized” the S-300 system while others go even further and claim that Russia either “approved” the Israeli attack or even “coordinated” it!

The Russian military has a saying “гражданский – это диагноз” which can be roughly translated as “civilian – that is a diagnosis.” In the case of these ignorant and even silly articles about the Russian air defenses in Syria (“the S-300 don’t work!!!”), that is precisely the case: these are civilians who have no understanding whatsoever of military matters in general, and even less so of air defense topics.

In my article “S-300 in Syria – a Preliminary Assessment,” I explained that:

Sooner or later, however, we can be pretty confident that both the Israelis and the US will have to try to strike Syria again, if only for PR purposes. In fact, this should not be too difficult for them, here is why: First, and contrary to what is often claimed, there are not enough S-300/S-400’s in Syria to indeed “lock” all of the Syrian airspace. Yes, the Russians did create a de-facto no-fly zone over Syria, but not one which could withstand a large and determined attack. What the combined Russian and Syrian forces have done so far is to deny some specific segments of the airspace above and around Syria to the AngloZionist aggressors. This means that they can protect some specific, high-value targets. However, as soon as the US/Israelis get a feel for what has been deployed and where, and how this entire integrated air defense network works, they will be able to plan strikes which, while not terribly effective, will be presented by the propaganda machine as a major success for the AngloZionists. (…) So, all the AngloZionists really need to do is to be very careful in their choice of paths of approach and choice of targets, use low-RCS aircraft and missiles under the cover of a robust EW engagement and then use a large enough number of missiles to give the appearance that the Empire has defeated the Russian and Syrian air defenses.

This is *exactly* what we are witnessing now. How do we know that? After all, we don’t have access to classified BDAs. True. What we can do is use Christ’s wise words and “judge a tree by its fruits” and notice that no amount of Israeli airstrikes in Syria have made any difference. Not only that, but we also know the kind of sustained air campaign which would be needed to meaningfully impact the Syrian armed forces, Hezbollah, the Iranians or the Russians. It sure ain’t what we have seen since the Russians beefed up their air defenses in Syria.

ORDER IT NOW

By the way, the SOHR article mentioned above also makes a mistake saying that a “scientific research center” was attacked. Why does this matter? Well, since we know that Syria has no nuclear, chemical or bacteriological research program or weapons, we can immediately conclude that whatever the “scientific research center” was doing (assuming this was not some empty building in the first place) was not something relevant to the Syrian war effort. In other words, this “scientific research center” was chosen as a symbolic target which, for all we know, might not even have been protected in the first place. However, “Israel destroys secret Syrian research center” sounds oh-so-triumphant and presents that it was well worth attacking that target. Heck, the SOHR article even mentions destroyed *orchards* (I kid you not!). I am sure that Hezbollah and the IRGC were both very impressed by the Israeli military prowess and totally heartbroken to have been deprived of their precious orchards 🙂

My question to the “Putin is a Zioagent” folks is: why in the world would you expect the Syrians or the Russians to defend empty buildings or orchards from Israeli airstrikes anyways?

Conclusion 1: Putin, the traitor? Hardly!

My regular readers will know that my support for the Kremlin is a sincere one, but also a critical one. Not only do I not believe in flag-waving (called “hat tossing” in Russian), but I do also believe that there is a very dangerous and toxic 5th column inside the Russian elites working to subordinate Russia to the Empire. So while I sometimes like to call myself a “Putin fanboy” or “Putin groupie,” I do that only in a tongue-in-cheek manner. In reality, I believe that Russia in general, and Putin specifically, actually need the criticism of those who want to see Russia truly become a sovereign nation again. So I am all for being critical of Putin and Russia. However, not all criticisms are equal or offered in a sincere spirit.

I have concluded that the folks at Langley (and elsewhere) have figured out that accusing Putin of being a journalist-murdering dictator or a nationalist freak who wants to restore the Russian Empire have entirely failed (especially inside Russia). So they switched strategies and have embarked on a major strategic PSYOP we could call “Putin the traitor”: instead of moaning about Putin being too much of a Russian patriot, they have now decided to paint him as a “not sincerely patriotic” and, truth be told, that new strategy has proven much more effective, especially against the background of the Medvedev government continuing to champion socially reactionary policies.

In fact, I suspect that Patrushev’s statement was, at least in part, designed to debunk the canard about Russia ditching either Iran or Syria. Not only that, but since the Director of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and Secretary of the Security Council of Russia has made the Russian support for Iran crystal clear, this will now force the 5th columnists to either shut up or face sanction.

Will the putatively pro-Russian “useful idiots” who spent so much energy trying to convince everybody that Putin was Netanyahu’s puppet learn their lesson? I doubt it. In fact, I don’t think that they will ever admit being wrong: they will explain-away Patrushev’s statement as “empty talk” or something similar and resume their mantras (which is the only thing which gives them “click-visibility” anyway).

Let’s sum up what we all could observe: Russia remains the single biggest “resistance nation” on the planet (the other contender for the top position would, obviously, be Iran). The “Putin betrayed” folks have been denouncing a Russian betrayal for at least five years. The fact that no such betrayal ever materialized has had no impact on those who are little more than useful tools for the Empire. Expect more “Putin the traitor” and “IDF defeats S-300s” articles in the future (the only way to stop them would be to stop clicking on their bait-titles which would force them to find a new source of revenue; I am not holding my breath on this one).

Conclusion 2: back to reality

In the real world the most interesting questions now are 1) how viable the current partnership between Russian and Turkey will prove over time and 2) how strong the Russian-Iranian alliance will become. It is also unclear what role the SCO will play or whether the SCO will grow more impressive military “teeth” (so far, at least as far as I know, no SCO member state has offered military help to Russia). And finally there is the big question of what China will do.

For the time being we see the Empire spewing a lot of hot air and making threats to an almost endless list of countries, while the Israelis engage in what I would call “murder psychotherapy” (which is all that IDF strikes really are) to keep their racist delusions afloat. And while the AngloZionists maniacally pursue these (pretend-)strategies, the rest of the world is building an alternative to the AngloZionist Hegemony. Will the leaders of the Empire prefer a massive war to a quiet (and rather pathetic) self-destruction of the Empire? Looking at the faces of Trump, Pompeo or Bolton, I can’t say that I feel very reassured. Yet I remain hopeful that I will see the day come when the US, Russia and Palestine are all liberated from their oppressors and recover their full sovereignty.

 
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  1. Anything in the public domain, the declaration referred at, is garbage and leads to reductionist rectal extraction. Global policy is not to be understood by reading coffee grouse public snippets. Real journalism means having “raw” sources, the method for that is clearly unique to Assange and Wikileaks of lore.

    The suggestion is waisted on unz.com, and Saker. Still there is no way around it. The error is systemic, a media consent of willing ignorance. Opportunistic babbles.

  2. thisisit says:
    @PetrOldSack

    Right on!
    Saker’s English is improving, but his ramblings are consistently insipid.

    Syria has to desperately use the clunky S-200 to ward off Israel’s attacks, because “putinyahu” doesn’t allow the S-300 to be delivered, and the latest mishap is that the missile landed on . . . Cyprus!

    • Replies: @thisisit
  3. Erebus says:

    A day ago, an American RC-135V reconnaissance plane flew directly over Sirri and Abu Musa islands, not once but twice. Its transponder was transmitting false code to appear Iranian.

    Abu Musa has a military installation on it, and controls the Western end of the Strait of Hormuz. Doubtless it has high grade AD.

    This looks to have been an obviously dangerous provocation on the part of the USAF. Given the drone take down last month, one wonders how the RC-135V crew came to agree to being used as bait. Or, did they know nothing would happen?

    • Replies: @Spercepolnes
    , @antiparos
  4. Thule says:

    I find interesting that Saker misreads this statement, as if Russia and Iran (and Turkey and some other countries) would be “allies”. But this quote of Patrushev does not say anything like that, only somthing vague towards some direction. Read yourself again; ““We have established sufficiently good business-like relations with all regional countries, and our positions in the Middle East region have become more stable. Indeed, we have established very good, business-like, partner-like and largely allied relations with many regional countries, including Iran, Turkey and other countries”” Nobody normal can interpret something like that as declaration of “alliance” in concrete solid form. “Business-like, partner-like, largely allied relations..” is as ambiguous as it gets. And what does it mean in reality in case such as Turkey that belongs in category due of some particular businesses. But this is according to Xinhua what relationship of this category means with Russia. http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-06/29/c_138185262.htm

  5. thisisit says:
    @thisisit

    My most sincere apologies to the Saker!
    I confused him with someone else, who seems to play on language for some reasons.
    I stand by the gist of my initial reply, but I want to reiterate my apologies to The Saker, whom I have never read!
    Please forgive my mistake, the Saker!

  6. Boy, was I ever wrong!

    You have been wrong many times about Ukraine and its fall
    You were wrong about Tulsi “Champion of Freedom” Gabbard
    You were wrong about the Mossange
    For this you have found an excuse that all those who disagree with you want click-through
    I have not met anyone who, like you, would have mumbled for money
    For this censorship is your middle name

    The fact is that Israel is doing what it wants in Syria and with the consent of Russia
    You can make up various excuses, I would like to see you telling them to the families of killed Lebanese, Syrian, Iranian and Russian.

    The fact is that if it was not a gas pipeline competing for the Gazprom, Russia would not have waved a finger in Syria as it had not nodded in Libya. Gaddafi’s blood on your children, Russia.

    Just like in the west, in the east too, the “chosen” oligarchy rules and when the “chosen” quarrel in the family of the goy corpses, it thickens.

    • Agree: utu
  7. President Putin is a leader prepared to stand up for Russian national interests, while also skilfully avoiding the war that would ultimately undermine those interests. To some, things might appear otherwise, but we should be grateful that he has managed to strike that balance, in a world that seems set for world war three.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

  8. Anon[296] • Disclaimer says:

    Putin has done a lot . Syria is still not out of the woods ,but Russia and China are . Countries are reaching the both nations in large number . India is hedging the bet .
    One thing sure that it is 2003 no more . Israel had a grand plan . The take home message for reenergied Iran Syria Lebanon and Iraq would be not to fall for any charm from Israel or Israeli vassal but eliminate the country as an independent entity for ever . Opportunity round come .

    The goal of US was to lord over the world. Zionist used that weakness and bravado by corrupting and inserting itself in the military and pentagon .

    The lofty goal of lefty was also seen as potential Trojan horse by Zionist and they used it to advance their ugly mean opportunitistic and Nazi like policies from the early years of its existence .

    The religious conservative doctrine and infatuation with nebulous values of the conservative was also abused and corrupted and harnessed for evil purpose by the Zionist

    Putin may destroy America but west and Christianity and white hope for normal life will survive .

    China will not tolerate rise or hegemony of Israel.

    Zionist has risen on the back of similar sounding religion culture and colors .

    China India won’t offer

    The similar sounding culture and religions have had enough . Memory will kill the Zionist . .

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  9. anon[296] • Disclaimer says:
    @PetrOldSack

    Why is US trying to undercut undermine and openly trying to weaken Russia and China ?
    Won’t a negotiated bilaterally beneficial approach to either or both of them would free Zionist – run USA to castrate Syria and Iran ? Wouldn’t an eliminated Syria -Iraq -Iran axis free Zio run USA to grab and enjoy the riches Saudi have ?
    Wouldn’t a vanished axis of resistance will allow zio- run USA to impose same ethnic racial fragmentation of Arab peninsula as was imposed on Europe ?
    Wouldn’t the same treatment that was meted to Catholic and Protestants by the Zionist be more achievable against the Islam with the vanquish of the axis ?
    So why Israel is allowing the servants like Pompeo and Bolton and personal dirtbags like CNN MSNBC Fox hosts and Krusyol or NYT to hype war against Russia ?

    Does Rissia know that once the dominance on Middle East is achieved by Israel,there will be nothing left for Russia or its culture or economy ? May be it knows .
    May be Israel is thinking that it can achieve both . May be it is thinking it can let the war dog Bolton loose to fetch all the bones out there in one go.

    Here comes the axis of resistance ! Question is this are each of them better off than they were 1 or 10 years ago ? You bet ,they are .
    Is Israel stronger ? Don’t think so. Is UK or USA? No.
    Is Saudi puppet or Brazilian or Kenyan or Ethipioan or France – the pictures framed on the wall on the US gallery of servants ? Don’t think so.

    Israel and US both now tend to claim and show poor results . 13 years ago they used to deny and show good results . Third world tin foil worn tin pot dictators come to mind

  10. ”’In the case of these ignorant and even silly articles about the Russian air defenses in Syria (“the S-300 don’t work!!!”’

    No, people say the S-300 are manned by the Russians and not Syrians yet who would, just as they used their own systems to down the Israeli jet in February 2018, for sure use them vs Israel. Russians, on the other hand, will not do so. Senior Iranian officials like one Mr Falahatpisheh, an MP working in the national security domain, have already called out Russia for not using the S-300 on Israel. Russia’s own S-400 at places like Tartus naval base and Khmeim air base also cover much of the airspace Israel attacks from like northern Lebanon’s airspace and yet are never used vs Israel.

    Also, remember when Russia reminded Israel after Israel caused the downing of its aircraft in September 2018 about the service it rendered, ‘on Tel Aviv’s request’ (Russian MoD’s own words https://www.rt.com/n…/439151-russia-israel-il-20-negligence/), to move Iranian-led militias to 140 km away from the Occupied Golan Heights as part of ‘deconfliction’/de-escalation? Well the de-confliction it seems was only meant for Iran and to make Israel feel safer cuz despite Russia also setting up 8 outposts along the Golan Heights border (https://www.almasdarnews.com/…/russian-military-creates-8-…/) because Israel has since then still continued using the Golan Heights airspace to launch airstrikes.

    You’d expect Russia to be offended and to cease being part of Israel and Israel/US security endeavours after this insult right? Nope. It continues being Israel’s go-to for talking about convincing Iran to leave Syria. You got the National Security Advisors meeting in Jerusalem recently but you also got things like Russia’s envoy to Syria Mr Lavrentiev also met up with the MOSSAD’s chief and other Israeli security officials (late last year or recently this year don’t recall). All ‘5D Chess’ according to Putin’s supporters, I’m sure, just like his long history of verbally fawning over Israel is ‘5D Chess’. https://www.jpost.com/…/Putins-special-envoy-for-Syria-and-…

    Tl;dr more real favours to Israel, and empty rhetoric or even ‘betrayal’ of Iran and Syria. Russia wants Syria stable but as a severely castrated, non-resistance state. Russia didn’t, unlike Lebanon and Iran, even bother sparing some of the fuel it sends to Syria to maintain its operations there for helping Syria with its recent fuel shortage. Russia’s draft constitution also made a lot of space for Kurdish aspirations and constantly hinted with its language, even if indirectly, Russia wishes to see Syria live in peace with ‘all its neighbours’ (i.e recognize Israel, which is anathema to the RESISTANCE Saker tries to portray Russia as an ally to to any extent greater than its blatant alliance with Israel).

    Also, Russia didn’t ‘defy sanctions’ against Iran as any true resistance state would do for the sake of its common anti-NATO alliance. Big Russian companies, flagship ones for the Russian Federation, pulled out of Iran last year as sanctions were opposed. https://tass.com/pressreview/1035779…

    Remember the shit Russia pulled before the Syria War started, with Iran? From Wikileaks: https://sputniknews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/…/201202291716…/… ‘A swap deal between Russia and Israel in 2008 provided the Russian military with secret codes for Georgian drones, while Jerusalem obtained access to information on Iranian missile systems, according to fresh publications by Wikileaks.’

    Russia literally HELPS Israel against its foes.

    Russia also in fact has been rapidly enhancing ties with the GCC Arab states, countries who are a living breathing legacy of Western influence in the Middle East and which today are open with their strategic partnership with Israel (think Yemen, where we now know Israel and Saudi’s larger geostrategic picture is to try and capture the broad Gulf of Aden, dominate the Red Sea etc). ‘Greatest resistance state’ really?

    Russia also helps Israel symbolically by digging up dead Zionists from past wars with Syria/Lebanon and handing over their corpses to Israelis. Lol. https://southfront.org/israeli-media-names-two-syrian-pri…/…

    Russia literally wants a ‘peaceful conflict resolution’ that includes the ROOT of all Middle East conflict (I’m assuming everyone on this site knows how the Zionist Lobby and all that works, AIPAC, neocons etc etc). https://ria.ru/amp/20190427/1553107601.html…

    Can’t believe Putin arresting a few Jewish oligarchs all those years ago made people think he’s a committed anti-Zionist. And by the way, anyone been paying attention to RT and Sputnik’s uber-Zionist propaganda drive as of the last year or so? Try reading up on some of the big wigs in Russia’s media, you’ll be surprised who you find there: https://eurasiafuture.com/…/russian-medias-under-discusse…/…

    And as for that ‘Russia is the greatest resistance state’ – lol.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Davidson20
  11. Ridiculous article/commentary

    “In the case of aggression against Israel, not only will the United States stand by Israel’s side — Russia, too, will be on Israel’s side,” Russian Deputy Ambassador to Israel Leonid Frolov said. “Many of our countrymen live here in Israel, and Israel in general is a friendly nation, and therefore we won’t allow any aggression against Israel.”

    “We certainly support Israel’s right to defend itself, and the actions of Israeli pilots were entirely correct,” he said of Saturday’s flareup in the north, during which an Israeli fighter jet was shot down by a Syrian anti-aircraft battery and two pilots were injured.

    “We certainly regret that in this incident two Israeli pilots were injured,” Frolov said. “On behalf of the Russian embassy I am wishing a speedy recovery to the wounded pilots.”

    In seeking to prevent Iran’s entrenchment in Syria, Israel should “have established closer ties with Syrian secret services,” he added. “Israel is surrounded by many enemy states. But that doesn’t prevent the Israeli leadership from announcing that their secret services have contacts with counterparts from Saudi Arabia or Qatar, for instance.”

    “I am sure that every UAV that intrudes into Israeli airspace needs to be shot down. It would be even better to bring down the UAV [without destroying it] and to see who created it, to whom it belongs,” he said, speaking in Russian through an interpreter.

    • Replies: @acementhead
  12. anon[325] • Disclaimer says:

    In the context of the statements made by our partners with regard to a major regional power, namely Iran, I would like to say the following: Iran has always been and remains our ally and partner, with which we are consistently developing relations both on bilateral basis and within multilateral formats,” Patrushev said after the trilateral meeting.

    This is why we believe that it is inadmissible to describe Iran as a major threat to regional security and, moreover, to put it on par with the Islamic State or any other terrorist organization,” Patrushev stated.
    He stressed that Iran is a significant contributor to the fight against terrorism and the settlement of the conflict in Syria.
    “We have called on our partners to show restraint and readiness for reciprocal steps, which must serve as the basis for the consistent advancement towards the easing of tensions in the Israeli-Iranian relations,” Patrushev said.

    https://www.jewishpress.com/news/us-news/patrushev-admonishes-bolton-ben-shabbat-for-comparing-iran-to-isis/2019/06/26/

  13. sarz says:

    So what does Russia mean exactly when she says that Iran is her “ally”?

    Here is a probable part of the answer that Saker surprisingly overlooked:

    “It is my duty to state this: Any use of nuclear weapons against Russia or its allies, be it small-scale, medium-scale or any other scale, will be treated as a nuclear attack on our country. The response will be instant and with all the relevant consequences,” Putin warned

    .

    This was stated very formally in Putin’s yearly state of the nation address last year.

    The United States cannot win a conventional war against Iran. It would collapse the global economy. Trump the crypto-Jew tweets of obliterating Iran—obviously for Israel. Adelson is already talking of a new book in the Jewish bible dedicated to Trump, much like the book of Esther. Destroying Iran for Israel is something Trump planned from the beginning of his campaign. The Purim celebration of genocide is part of his make-up.

    The Iranis refuse to negotiate with Trump unless he undoes the sanctions and reaffirms the nuke treaty. That would be a challenge to the greatest statesman and is far beyond the oafish Trump. The Iranis can keep up unbearable pressure, sinking a couple of tankers (with deniability) if necessary.

    It is crucial that it is communicated to Trump that Iran is an ally as pertains to Putin’s pledge, in the context of the refusal of Iran to surrender and of Trump’s investment in “usable” nukes. That is what the Patrushev statement means. Iran is covered.

    So Trump is reduced to absurd acts like the UK seizure at Gibraltar of the tanker of probably Irani oil headed from Iraq to Syria. Would Trump or his allies take on a flotilla of tankers headed to Syria protected by a Russian destroyer? Check!

  14. I tire of the dull witted fools who keep saying this also. Putin’s Russia is the main force which has stopped Zionist plans in their tracks. The Jews have a lot of connections with Russia, “Israel” has a lot of Russian blood. Yet President Putin has criplled the Zionists game without even harming Russia’s relationship with the fake state. Zionism won’t be dismantled fast but it’s defeat has begun.

    • Replies: @Moi
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
  15. From El Capitan to Long Island Sound,
    Merciful God bless this beautiful land.
    A brave and brilliant people, free and strong,
    Let righteousness again take up Your hand.

    • Replies: @remembering geronimo
  16. @PetrOldSack

    What you say is only true if one lacks common sense and reason. With enough of these two one can easily enough parse public statements. After all the hidden motives and actions still serve a visible public purpose. True analysis uses whatever is to hand and with enough can manage a useable image.

    If you truly belueve what you wrote, you are very dull witted and don’t warrant the time to debate. If you know better, then you’re a shill. Either way screw you.

  17. Nine days have passed since the meeting, and Israel has succeeded in terror bombing Syria several times, killing civilians, and an infant. I guess Benji the Nut-n-yahoo wasn’t too impressed by Russia’s stance. So what’s next? Another tri-party nothing? Waste of time. Until Israel pays a price for her terrorism nothing will change.
    As concerns Russia/Turkey relations I guess it comes down to whether Erdogan takes delivery of the S400 this month.

  18. Patrushev’s statement simply means Russia is keeping all options open. These range from rhetorical to technical to advisory support or military action if invited. His statement means whatever they want it to mean.

    Since Putin is a seasoned judoka, his strategic style will be based on speed, power, and flexibility. Hence his development of hypersonic missiles, single-strike kill vehicles, and broad, loosely worded “alliances.”

    His tactics sometimes appear ad hoc, but that is because he is constantly feeling out his adversary (whom he refers to as his “partners”). Martial artists call this close-in fighting “contact flow.” It enables one to respond forcefully and accurately with proper balance to a situation as it develops.

    By now Russia knows that war is coming with the West. She will bide her time, hoping that the West’s self-immolation might obviate a war.
    But Soviet military doctrine, and a thousand years of resisting invasion, tell her to prepare for the worst. Putin’s seeming ad hoc responses fit into this broader framework. Спаси и сохрани.

  19. Ridiculous article by a delusional fanboy. Russia does Israel real strategic favours and does Iran verbal ones.

  20. A123 says:

    The National Socialist / Globalist movement is losing badly. Look at the power of its leaders — George Soros, Barak Obama, Hillary Clinton, Angela Merkel, and Emmanuel Macron. They had a plan for ‘regime change’ that has failed.

    The Globalist failure does not indicate that the U.S. is weak. Indeed the strong U.S. got rid of Obama/Clinton. President Trump never embraced their plans for regime change and Kurdistan. If you recall, he pulled the rug out from under Iraqi Kurdistan’s bid for independence (1).

    The European National Socalist / Globalist leaders while still theoretically in power have also failed. Their attempt to set off a nuclear arms race by helping Iranian weapons development has failed. They have been working on a financial mechanism to bypass sanctions, INSTEX, and it has not managed a single transaction (2). Indeed just the opposite, the UK seized an Iran oil tanker and the EU did nothing (3).

    The U.S. and Israel are going to get everything they want as Iran runs out of foreign currency to pay for terrorist activities by Hezbollah and Hamas. There will not be an invasion of Iran as it is not needed. Thus, the question is, “Will Russia support an Iranian *offensive* against the U.S. and Israel?” This seems highly unlikely.

    Russia is doing nothing to stop Israeli strikes against Iranian forces in Syria. One S300 control system with 4 launchers is a nuisance not a game changer, and there is no indication that Russia will risk its own troops defending Iran in Syria.

    The bottom line is obvious. Russian is not supporting Iran in any substantial way. The platitudes by Russian officials are words unsupported by actions.

    PEACE

    _____

    (1) https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/11/07/562514981/after-iraqi-kurdish-independence-vote-backfires-i-do-not-regret-it-says-barzani

    (2) https://en.radiofarda.com/a/iranian-diplomat-compares-eu-trade-mechanism-to-a-car-without-gas-/30028257.html

    (3) https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1TZ0VG

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  21. Melotte22 says:

    Thanks for clarifying. I thought it was western vultures who destroyed Libya, took control over tens of billions of dollars of Libyan money, took control over Libyan oil, turn the richest African country into open slavery market…but somehow it was all Russian fault.

  22. @SeekerofthePresence

    God cursed ‘this beautiful land’ the day the scummy white Euro invaders murdered the native Indians..

    Not such a ‘brilliant’ move and how ‘free’ most are certainly not since the founding of the Zio Fed in NYC in 1913 .

    Oxycodone to blot out the past anyone?

  23. EoinW says:

    For all those whining about Putin and Russia protecting Israel, would you mind doing some rational thinking for a change? What exactly is Russia suppose to do? Nuke Israel, just because many of us hate the country? I suppose Assad and Nasrallah are also Israeli agents because they choose not to retaliate after Israeli attacks. Don’t you understand that time is on the side of Hizbollah, Iran, Russia and Syria? If the Israelis and Americans are desperate for a war then the dumb thing to do is give them that war.

    Remember that every act of aggression – from sanctions to air strikes to raiding oil tankers – simply show to the rest of the world what USA/Israel/West is really about. Each act is a sign of desperation that weakens the West’s 21st century Fourth Reich.

    I know, there’s nothing like a good rush of blood to the head. We saw Americans’ true colours after 9/11 and the ridiculous blood lust which followed. Sure we’d love to see the IDF and US military in flames. It would make us feel good. There are leaders, however, who are responsible for more than simply doing things to make themselves feel good. Thousands of people would die if they followed the advice of the Unz Peanut Gallery.

    We hate the Israelis and Americans for their behavior. It’s ironic that some of us want the Russians to behave exactly the same way. Patience. The war is coming. That’s pretty obvious now. The Russians and Iranians will try to avoid it until it’s forced upon them. Once it comes, we will all get our satisfaction. But will we end up regreting what we wished for?

    • Agree: Alfred
  24. paulll says:

    Well, Saker is good at one thing: talking nasty about those against whom he is arguing. I think this is meant to obscure the weakness of his case. Saker’s argument rests entirely, despite the many many words he pours out, on one claim: that Israel’s attacks on Syria are having no impact on Syria or Iran.
    Hence it is better to let Israel exhaust itself like a boxer who punches hard and keeps on missing.

    It is hard to evaluate this claim. I certainly don’t take Saker’s word for it, though I hope it’s true. It looks more like Syria and Iran are utterly helpless in the face of Israeli airpower, which means that Russian AA is worthless, either because it’s bad tech, or because Russia controls the use of it to the point where it is useless, or both.

    • Replies: @anon
  25. paulll says:
    @EoinW

    This is just a blatantly false argument, which hinges on the crazy idea that Russia’s only two options are to let Israel pound away at Syria, or to nuke Israel.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  26. Common sense says that all is not right with Russia’s relationship with the ME countries. For instance, why doesn’t Russia sell their latest and greatest missile system to Syria? Why doesn’t Iran have S400’s? Why is Israel still able to pound Syria seemingly at will?

    If Russia was such a staunch ally of Iran and Syria, why would it standby and allow the US and Israel to illegally occupy and fly in Syrian airspace? No, there’s something wrong here. There’s information missing to make sense of why Russia is allowing Israel free reign and why it hasn’t told the US to get the hell out of the country. Where is Russia in using the BS UN to draft a piece of paper with real writing on it to ask the US to pretty please leave Syria’s territory?

    A real ally would sell nukes to Iran making them a nuclear state instantly and giving Iran the only possible weapon strong enough to discourage Israel and the US from invading. I’ll admit I don’t understand Iran’s position on them NOT wanting nukes. I think they’re stupid.

    • Troll: Twodees Partain, bluedog
  27. Dmitry says:
    @PetrOldSack

    Israel and Russia are geopolitically usually aligned against each other, because of the configuration created by the Cold War.

    This is not going to change soon, as Israel is American allied territory, in a geopolitical sense. Today, Israel and Russia are not enemies, but more like frenemies.

    This is also all common knowledge and not a secret. If America and Russia become more friendly, then Israel would have more space for partnership with Russia, and vice-versa. But the main determining thing is the larger conflict between America and Russia, as Israel is allied in the NATO camp.

    At the same time, Putin personally has quite pro-Israel views and has continued like that for 19 and a half years since he was famous or publicly expressing himself.

    The idea of the anti-Israel people here, that Putin will change his warm view to Israel after 19 years, seems a bit delusional.

    Usually if a political leader is 19 years in power, they don’t suddenly change their views. And Putin is especially stubborn.

    As for Saker’s article. I have read that he is a Swiss man who lives in Florida, and here he seems to be arguing against imaginary voices in his head (“the “Putin sold out to Netanyahu” campaign did not stop.”).

    After the first couple sentences, text becomes too strange to be understandable for a normal person.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
  28. anon[423] • Disclaimer says:
    @peterAUS

    Back to business the way they ( Europeans and nascent state of America ) used to conduct piracy in 17,18,19 centuries and blame other for doing it .

  29. anon[423] • Disclaimer says:
    @paulll

    Israel has been trying to get the conflict going as long as it is possible . It’s a work in progress .

    This posture helps with that if US also.

    This is why the bombings which are another if way of supporting the ISIS which Israel has done on the ground and in the sky repeatedly .

    It is working This doesn’t make it right ethical moral or legal and shelf- life for resurrecting the actionable legal moral conclusion is eternity . It may be a real Shoa one day . It will be like quoting Ben Guiron – “ we are taking revenge for what was down to us by the Arabs centuries ago “

    That nasty lying piece of Jewish ( non human ) shit will see his bones in the tomb scattered to the wild boars one day .

  30. @der einzige

    Libyan blood is on NATOs hands. That is the direct link.

    Israel wants no Syria, just northern Israel. So they are not doing what they want.

    What Israel is doing is what it has already done historically – low impact sovereignty infringement, to slowly piss off your neighbour, until they defend themselves, and then whilst calling them an aggressor, ‘fight them off’, and bite off a piece of their land. This is literally what they did to take Golan.

    Russia and Putin are not falling for this trick, Syria and Assad aren’t either.

    You’d be either a fool or dishonest for saying Syria should react the same way they did before, ignoring the lessons of its recent past.

  31. @Dmitry

    Saker is responding to what are now possibly thousands of comments on his blog and emails that complain of Russia’s insouciance vis-à-vis the regular nuisance provocations from the 70 year experiment that failed.

    His nationality is Swiss, his ethnicity is Russian, and he does live in Central Florida. None of this is secret and all can be found and verified easily by visiting his blog.

    Putin is an attorney by education, an intelligence analyst by work experience ( as is Shaker), and through his patience and commitment to working through the rules of international law, has positioned Russia and himself as champions of world peace.

    Dr. Assad is gaining the support of Syrians and though there is more work to be done subduing paid mercenaries in Idlib province, there is no doubt the lawful government of Syria will prevail.

    The Kurds rightfully demand a revised constitution that will protect their rights, and work to that end is ongoing.

    The only people who demand destructive retaliation by Russian or SAA forces are those who seek the destruction of Syria.

    Unlike Israel, Syria (and Iran) can exist and thrive without murdering their neighbors for more land, water, oil, or political prestige.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  32. Putin is tricky white boy. He wants to be a friend with everybody, So is Trump.
    I hope they stay in power forever.

  33. The Scalpel says: • Website
    @der einzige

    “You can make up various excuses, I would like to see you telling them to the families of killed Lebanese, Syrian, Iranian and Russian.”

    word!

  34. That was an ambitious plan, but the Israelis felt pretty confident that their US vassal-state would provide the resources needed to achieve it. Now this entire plan has collapsed due to the very high effectiveness of an informal but yet formidable alliance between Russia, Iran, Syria, and Hezbollah. To say that the Israelis are seething with rage and in a state of total panic would be an understatement. Do you think I am exaggerating? Then look at it from the Israeli point of view:

    =====

    We can all agree that before Russia entered the ZOG-instigated ISIS Destabilization War, that Assad & his government’s days were literally numbered.

    Then, out of nowhere, Russia brushed aside its Afghanistan ghosts, saddled up, and joined the “party” as an invited guest in Syria. Thanks to its modern & disruptive military hardware (amazing electronic warfare, Kalibre, air superiority, A2AD tech, etc.), the bear & her “allies” turned things around & hauled some serious ISIS/Daesh ass.

    Nobody in the AngloZio West saw that one coming. Nobody!
    I certainly didn’t. Russia surprised the sh!t out of me – in a good way. 😉

    That being said, here’s something the Exceptional ZOG Empire hasn’t even given any serious thoughts to:
    What if a war between its ZOG Vassal Military Slave Forces and the Iran/Russia/China alliance goes seriously hot??

    I mean, do the treasonous Swamp rats in the District of Criminals, New York & the City of London really think that the millions of pro-2A American citizens (consisting of: state Militias + OathKeepers + ex-pissed off Vietnam/Iraq War military Vets with serious fcuking grievances + roughly 20 to 40+ million hunters ) are just going to sit back when they finally get the most perfect storm necessary to eradicate the Deep State Zio scum once and for all?

    Think about that for a moment!
    The whole world pretty much fcuking hates all of the Empire’s illegal warmongering. Anyone with a bit of common sense can see that the Disunited States of Amerika is perhaps the most divided (see: boiling racial tensions, Left/Right political charades, a destructive LGBTQ/Feminism society, Christian vs Muslim distractions, immigrants who can’t assimilate, etc.) nation on the planet.

    Yet the delusionals in DC are still caught up in this illegal sanctions regime against everybody – risking the crumbling Dollar’s reserve status against the new multi-polar world centered in EurAsia where the combined RIC/SCO/EAEU economies will dominate the next century while the backwards but exceptional JUSA heads to the dustbin with its cucked suicidal “European” vassals tagging along for the ride.

    One thing I’ve learned from observing people from different walks of life is this: Everything has a limit – a point of no return.
    The next major ZOG war will really shake things up right inside the Empire’s belly.
    Just my 2 cents.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @bluedog
    , @NoseytheDuke
    , @Biff
  35. Art Best says:

    Israeli bomber jets devastated the entire Iranian/Hezbollah infrastructure throughout southern Syria only a few days ago.

    This Israeli attack which cost dearly in terms of Iranian human and military assets, only could have taken place with Russian acquiescence. It has weakened Syria’s principal ally therefore Syria itself.

    How do you reconcile this fact with your position that Russia is helping Iran and Syria against Israel and America?

    • Troll: Olivier1973
  36. Lo says:

    Russia, USA, and Israel work together in Syria. Russia cares only about its economic and military interests. Israel wants to block Iran’s influence and establish a Kurdish state to further secure itself by creating a pariah Kurdish state that would be enemy of everyone around them. Iran’s policy is consistent and logical, they want to keep Syria intact and support Assad, they calculate stronger their position in Syria is more cards they hold against Israel (and thus the US). Turkey is run by morons who have no idea what they are doing, on the one hand, they want Syria intact on the other hand they are against Assad. Turkey on paper, is allied with the US, downed a Russian jet, and bought S400 systems from Russians.

    I am not talking about the US. The US just does whatever Israel commands. Therefore, figuring out what Israel wants is enough.

  37. tac says:

    Here is yet another example of the traitors in the ZOG ‘US congress’ working exclusively for a foreign country: Israel!

    Russia receives a jab at the fourth paragraph for its role “[…] to ensure the survival of the Assad regime.” It adds “Furthermore, in providing Damascus with advanced weapons like the S-300 anti-aircraft, Moscow is complicating Israel’s ability to defend itself from hostile action emanating from Syria.”
    […]
    Beyond any conceivable doubts, the Letter was dictated by Israelis or their advocates in Washington, signed and submitted by the 400 congressmen to Trump; the height of hypocrisy. What is dismaying is that hardly any voices of protests were raised in the American society at large or the political or intellectual segments about the fact that four hundred congressmen, who are elected by Americans to serve American interests, at a time when the US is bogged down in the Arab region, sign and submit a letter to the US President concerned almost exclusively with Israel Security.

    These congressmen had an opportunity to make a coherent recommendation on US policy in the Arab region in the interest of American National Interest, but instead chose to make recommendations to safeguard the wellbeing and security of a foreign state: Israel.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-06/only-strategic-rationale-americas-involvement-syria-finally-revealed

  38. The empire is just trolling.. As usual a lot of smoke but no fire.. Because children afraid of getting burnt can light a fire but can create a lot of smoke.

    The world is on the brink of war, again. And again. And, yes, yet again. And then it’s not on the brink of war any more… but wait, there’s more! Of course there’s more, there always is. US aircraft carrier battle groups are steaming toward North Korea… or not. They are steaming about aimlessly, nowhere near North Korea, but in a very threatening manner. Then Trump and Kim Jong Un meet, get on great, sign a piece of paper that means nothing and part friends. Now the aircraft carriers are steaming about far less menacingly.

    Now it’s about Venezuela. Its democratically elected leader is declared to be a usurper and a suitable replacement is found by the name of Random Guy doh.

  39. Alfred says:
    @paulll

    Russia’s only two options are to let Israel pound away at Syria, or to nuke Israel

    In the grand scheme of things, what is the value of a handful of civilians, soldiers and infants?

    By not reacting forcefully, the Russians are doing precisely what the Israelis don’t want them to do – nothing.

  40. @Anon

    Is this a machine translation?

  41. PeterMX says:

    I enjoyed reading the part of the article about Russia’s role in the middle east. I think Putin is honorable and good and characterizing the west (most notably the Americans) as Israel’s prostitute is appropriate. Describing the Jewish dominated Ukraine (where I am currently located) as “Nazi-occupied Ukraine” is retarded. They now have their second Jewish president in a row, they also own the media and they dominate the gov’t.

    But it would be good if it were so. There would be a lot more Ukrainians around today because it was their own Jewish dominated Soviet gov’t that murdered 8 million Ukrainians before the Germans (“NAZIS” to Jewish led bigots) attacked the murderous communists and were welcomed as heroes by many Ukrainians, including Ukrainian priests and other church people.

  42. Anon[362] • Disclaimer says:

    How true?

  43. Emile says:

    The article is not bad at all but some comments are too.
    I remain “astonished”:
    – that Israel can bomb Syria but if according to the article the result of the strikes is “negligible”.
    – that Idlib seems to be given to Turkey and that Erdogan is making fun of the agreement he signed in Sochi in October.
    – that the north and north-east of Syria (with its oil resources) be left to the Kurdo-Turco-Americans.
    It will be explained to me that I understand nothing and that the great genius takes care of everything … later.
    It took Stalin’s Russia 3 years to completely destroy the formidable German army that had taken most of Europe in a few months and after 4 years, with the help of Iran, Hezbollah, the Syrians , Russia fails to restore sovereignty to Syria. But I do not understand anything for sure.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @peterAUS
  44. I didn’t and don’t have a problem believing that Russia is far from being under Israel’s thumb. How could it be? So I don’t take issue with Saker’s rather longwinded demonstration that it is so. But I do, as usual, find Saker diminishing his own credibility. For instance, in the first Sidebar he offers Plan Totality, Operation Unthinkable and Operation Dropshot as examples of the nasty ways “the West treats its allies”. Rubbish! The first was, as the linked article shows, just a necessary bluff. The second began as a *plan* to make the Soviet Union abide by its commitments wrt Poland and was modified to be a *plan* to defend Western Europe in case of Soviet aggression. The third was in 1949 when the Soviet Union had already blockaded Berlin and was no ally.

  45. If this isn’t Russia caving in then nothing amounts to caving in. How far can one bend over and still deny you are doing just that. Where is there any conduct The Saker will not apologize for?

  46. Thank God for Putin and Russia for saving Syria and backing Iran and stopping the trinity of evil, the zio/US and Israel and Britain , the creators of AL CIADA aka ISIS and all the offshoots thereof.

    Russia knows that if they let Syria and Iran fall, that Russia would be next, for Russia is now a christian nation and zionists hate christians and christians are the only obstacle left in this satanic world that stands in the way of a zionist One World Government.

    If the zionists would have gotten their greater Israel , satan would have won!

    • Agree: Republic, Robjil
    • Replies: @Avery
  47. mike k says:

    Saker bashers are in full bloom on this thread. These smart asses only have their shallow nonsense to replace his reasoned analysis with.

  48. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @PeterMX

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333

    You are right PeterMX

    The soviet famine afected Ukraina , Russia and Kazakstan , nor only Ukraruina .

    Fed up with ukraruinas`s victimism , always complaining oy vey , oy vey ,oy vey .

    If you live in Ukraruina you know better , but I think that Ukraruina could have been a golden bridge between western Europe and Russia , but choosed to be a miserable war trench in a new and unnecessary cold war in which we all lose , Ukraruina in the first place , but also Russia , the EU , and even the Americans that provoked the ” Maidan ” .

    How expensive have been Nuland`s cookies for Ukraruina ! , and for the UE ( Nuland said ” Fuck the EU ” ) , remember ?

    • Agree: PeterMX
  49. Agent76 says:

    Jul 4, 2019 Despite US Pressure Russia Strengthens Oil & Gas Cooperation With Iran And Vows For More Support

    Russia and Iran intend to increase their bilateral commodity trade. After the first four months of this year, this index amounted to around $700 million, and states still have goals to achieve.

    Jun 23, 2019 Putin: Russia Doesn’t Trade Its Allies And Principles!

    Russian President Vladimir Putin addresses the nationwide audience during his annual Direct Line question and answer session, during the course of which he regularly manages to answer a multitude of questions flooding in by telephone, text, email, social media, or live via television studios.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  50. bluedog says:
    @Black Picard

    Amen brother you hit that one out of the park..!!!

  51. SAKER: “Debunking the Rumors About Russia Caving in to Israel”

    STRANGER:
    Russia has a huge number of billionaires. Putin is one of them. He knows not to rock the boat.

    Trump and Putin have a lot in common: BOTH are billionaires, BOTH have daughters married to Jewish bankers, and BOTH have Jewish grandkids. That’s why they work well together.

    Putin’s daughter marries a Jewish Oligarch – Katerina, 29, described herself as the “spouse” of Kirill Shamalov (Jewish), son of Nikolai Shamalov, a longtime friend of the president. Shamalov senior is a shareholder in Bank Rossiya, which U.S. officials have described as the personal bank of the Russian elite. As husband and wife, Kirill and Katerina would have corporate holdings worth about $2 billion. Nov 11, 2015 http://laconics.forumotion.com/t4053-putin-s-daughter-marries-a-jewish-oligarch

    Nov 11, 2015 The CBR[Central Bank of Russia] is a member of Rothschild´s BIS[Bank of International Settlements], the central bank of central banks in Basel. Rothschild controls the CBR via his FED[Federal Reserve system in US], making the CBR unable to print more rubles than corresponding to its supply of foreign exchange. Russia sells oil for dollars. For the dollars, Russia buys US bonds, whereby the dollars return to the US FED. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i…

    Private shareholders own 50% of the shares in the CBR[Central Bank of Russia], and those shares are mostly owned by the same people who own the Federal-Reserve Banks in the US, and own the central banks and currencies of a lot of other countries.
    _____
    BOTTOM LINE:
    The owners of the CBR[Central Bank of Russia] are Jewish and they have Putin by the balls, so what they want Putin does. And the bankers want THE JEWISH STATE FIRST.

  52. Ziocuck says:

    I stand with Israel. (picks nose and eats it)

  53. I try my best to believe in what both the Saker and Dmitry Orlov are saying regarding the role of Putin’s mighty Russia in standing up to the decrepid “AngloZionist” Empire. I know little and assume they are experts. Yet, given Mr. Trump’s endless tweets and provocations via Iran, and the fact that Ultra Zionists Bolton and Pompeo continue to be the clueless president’s top advisors, why do their words not comfort me?

    It is much easier for me to believe in what Paul Craig Roberts tells us. PCR says that Russia and China, working together, could prevent the coming AngloZionist war on Iran, (and perhaps WWIII itself). The question is, are they doing so behind the scene, or will they, for their own internal self-interest, allow Iran to be bombed back into the stone age, as happened to both Iraq and Libya?

  54. From where I stand (not being privy to any classified info), it looks like things are more complex than Saker says, and simpler at the same time. Putin is playing a complex game. He certainly does not want to create enemies unnecessarily (in contrast to crazy Empire) and uses situational convergence of interests even with parties one can never trust (say, Turkey’s Erdogan) to Russia’s advantage. That’s how he keeps winning with a weak hand of cards against players holding ostensibly much stronger hands (like the Empire) that get wasted due to remarkable stupidity of their elites.

    Russia foiled all Israeli plans in Syria (which boiled down to converting it into a bunch of warring impotent Bantustans on religious and ethnic lines), yet avoided direct military confrontation with Israel. However, I don’t think that he will prevent Assad from fulfilling UN SC resolution by retaking the Golan Heights when the time is ripe. But it won’t be ripe for a few years yet, not until Syrian government manages to boot out the US, its sidekicks, and US-supported Islamist murderers from Al-Tanf and surrounding area in the South and comes to a comprehensive agreement with Syrian Kurds.

    Iran and Hezbollah apparently learn from Putin and borrow from his playbook. Like Putin, they figured that time is on their side, so they are biding their time and not rushing into something emotionally satisfying, but ultimately silly and self-defeating. That’s what makes Israel and the Empire livid and scared. All they can do is launch propaganda campaigns, knowing full well that in real combat, if it comes to that, they have a chance of a snowball in Hell.

  55. tjp says:

    Until Putin shoots down a dozen terror jets from isrhell, at least, he is still complicit in a way.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  56. @follyofwar

    Let me remind you that the times have changed. Remember threatening tweets against NK and theatrical sending of three (!) aircraft carrier battle groups in its direction? Net result: the US lost two military aircraft w/o Un firing a shot and retreated. Next came Venezuela. The Empire proclaimed its support for a piece of shit, told it to declare himself president, strong-armed its sidekicks into recognizing this piece of shit and his “government”, that governs nothing at all, even threatened military support for that piece of shit. Net result: nothing happened, piece of shit remained what it is, whereas Venezuela president remained president. Now, Iran. The same string of threats and battleships, two false flag attacks on tankers. Net result: Iran shot down the US spy drone, honestly stating that it has done so, and nothing happened.

    Deep down the US brass knows that “the strongest military in the world” can’t win the war with anyone more capable than Grenada. So, hysteric threats are issued, Lugenpresse spreads equally hysteric fakes about non-existent Iranian “threat”, Iran is accused of supporting Takfiri terrorists who are actually supported by the Empire, etc. All to keep the money flow to MIC and to convince sheeple that this waste is justified. Fat cats are happy and don’t want to die in WWIII: after death their loot would be worthless.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Lo
  57. anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Emile

    It took Stalin’s Russia 3 years to completely destroy the formidable German army that had taken most of Europe in a few months and after 4 years, with the help of Iran, Hezbollah, the Syrians , Russia fails to restore sovereignty to Syria. But I do not understand anything for sure.

    Results are proportionate to the effort put in.

  58. @PeterMX

    Simple question: so, Jews cannot be Nazis? How come then that Israel is conducting classical Nazi policies regarding Palestinians?

    • Replies: @PeterMX
  59. I think Russian officials are naive to ask for and trust American and Israeli cooperation for peace. That’s a laugh, or a sob, and surely the Russians know this by now. But I am willing, for a little longer, to give Putin the benefit of the doubt that he is more like Michael Corleone than Sonny Corleone. And he must know that Bibi is Barzini and Donnie is Tataglia.

  60. anonymoys says:
    @AnonFromTN

    “Russia foiled all Israeli plans in Syria…” Uhm…

    Stop writing about what you don’t know.

    “Putin is playing a complex game”.

    No, he isn’t. Putin’s master is Trump’s. I presume you know who is Trump’s master.

    Read and learn. And if you want to be honest with yourself, you have to confess that Mr Korybko is right and only your wishful thinking impedes you to see what’s going in Syria.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/israels-latest-strikes-syria-prove-jerusalem-summit-success/5682331

    By now, I believe only fools still read Saker. If Mr Unz was really serious in informing his readers, maybe he should invite Mr Korybko to write a piece about Russia, the best enemy money can buy.

  61. Ron Unz says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Let me remind you that the times have changed. Remember threatening tweets against NK and theatrical sending of three (!) aircraft carrier battle groups in its direction?…Next came Venezuela…Now, Iran. The same string of threats and battleships, two false flag attacks on tankers. Net result: Iran shot down the US spy drone, honestly stating that it has done so, and nothing happened.

    Well, I very, very much hope that your analysis is correct. But nuclear-armed lunatics regularly waving around guns at everyone in the neighborhood, make me extremely nervous…

    • Agree: follyofwar
  62. correct says:
    @der einzige

    Der Einzige you are 100% correct. Your correct answer is worth 100 articles by saker, unz, and other “alternative” media all of them are only 10% correct some of the time. below is a short summary of the real, permanent, enduring, fundamental, foundational jewish victories in the last 125 years. Whoever doesn’t accept all of these facts unconditionally is a willing agent of jews. 1. the Genocide of Armenians in turkey ( calling ottoman empire is disinformation). 2. killing of turkey’s sultan hamid II and regime change bringing the jewish committee of “union and progress”, also called by “hope” sounding “young turks”. 3. creation of bolshevism-communism. 4. creation of capitalism. 5. creation of socialism. 6. creation of all “isms”. 6. the forced break-up, dissolution, disintegration, looting, pillage and permanent chaos ( jewish declared objective on the whole goyim world) of the soviet union. 7, same with eastern europe ( yougoslavia, romania etc..). 8. under jewish control, russia always not defending let alone fighting for, its allies, specially orthodox christian, essential, bedrock allies such as Armenia, Serbia etc… 9. permanent break-up, permanent chaos in the middle-east. 10. same in libya. 11.same in iraq. 12. same in sudan. 13. permanent and total control of den of rif-raf, lowest of the low collection of individuals shoved in and forming the “melting pot” dazed and confused Un-united States. 14. creation of supra-national organizations for easier permanent control such as IMF, World Bank, European Union, Council of Europe etc…. 15. Imposing pervert “lifestyles of choice”, such as gay, fagots, lesbo , transgender, no-gender ( gender nutral), through educational mental masturbation, media, public discourse, forced visits to jewish holocost exhibitions etc. 16. spying and subverting all countries through sects such as jehovahs witnesses and ” non-governmental organizations”. 17. breaking up families, notion of family which is the foundational building block of any society. 18.erasing and making illegal celebrations and remembrance of national traditions of each country/society. 19. milking $ billions of dollars for “hitler’s punishment of the jews for trying to liberate germany from jewish permanent control”, from germany, poland, US, austria, and next- in -line hungary and other targets. 19. dis-information and lies that zionism and jews are different in character and world domination criminal objectives. 20. nobody asking the only correct and must ask question as to why germany tried to punish the few hundred thousand jews totally controlling and subverting germany ( fast forward as exactly in today’s collection of rif-raf un-United States). 21. penetrating and taking full control of the catholic pervert papacy, and their most secret archives. 22. breaking up of the Eastern Orthodox church hierarchy through turkey and ukraine. 23. doing all this (and more are in works) by hook or by crook

  63. I have been reading your blog ig for many years now, occasionally commenting and always enjoying, but in terms of what you described in your first sidebar as examples of us/uk double dealing regarding to the ussr, I must confess that having read recently quite a exposé of the reality and especially the beginning of the bolsheviks (refer to Ron’s american pravda articles) , I am no longer certain those actions would have been too uncalled for considering the level of ex facto control soviets had inside the us, on behalf of the Khazars. Now, althoughi feel a certain sympathy towards jews in general(full disclosure: my grandmother on my father’s side was jewish from Austria) i absolutely abhor the current power division in the us, and skew towards an apartheid state that claims it represents… Even me apparently, but in reality, hates my guts for not blindly supporting it. What annoys me is that you draw lines of similarity between soviet Russia and Russia today, because they are totally different animals. Soviet russia my family bled against in the army of tiny Finland, and i would be inclined to do so as well. Russia right now, I honestly feel, does not deserve what people think and say and act against, so I feel very strongly that it is a force for good, in the geopolitical scene of today. You need to calm down the rheyoric of “us vs them” and ignore the fucking deluges of moronic emails, you shine when analysing events, less so when you go on socio-political rants.

  64. @tjp

    Until Putin shoots down a dozen terror jets from isrhell, at least, he is still complicit in a way.

    Until you enlist with Russian Armed Forces, survive the boot and then ask to be sent to Syria in whatever capacity and then kill couple of dozen terror whatever from Israel–you are complicit in spreading miasma both in real and virtual modes.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @tjp
  65. @Ron Unz

    But nuclear-armed lunatics regularly waving around guns at everyone in the neighborhood, make me extremely nervous…

    Not you alone, Ron. In the same time–the United States doesn’t have resources to fight real serious conventional conflict with someone other than some third-rate Arab military. The Saker was prophetic when stating that wars “on cheap” are over. In fact, US increasing, always high historically, pro-nuclear bias is an obverse side of increasingly shaky conventional capabilities. It doesn’t, of course, preclude someone from making a catastrophic decision in the top echelon of power, especially with such incompetent loonies as Bolton and Trump himself making up the “loop”, but we have to face the fact that said individuals are the “best” US “elites” can offer and there is nobody else out there. So, we are, for a little while, in a time period of great geopolitical turbulence. So, we better get used to it.

    • Replies: @A123
  66. A123 says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Russia foiled all Israeli plans in Syria (which boiled down to converting it into a bunch of warring impotent Bantustans on religious and ethnic lines),

    Much like The Saker’s original argument, this is strawman. Soros/Clinton and the National Socialist elites wanted chaos in Syria, but Israel never did. Israel’s leaders realize chaos covers all sorts of mischief.

    The only Israel red line is preventing Syria from being used as an offensive front by Iranian al’Hezbollah forces. Russia is tacitly and successfully supporting Israeli plans. Israel is striking Iranian al’Quds and Iranian al’Hezbollah targets in Syria. Russian air defenses remain off in support of these Israeli strikes.
    _____

    Remember, Erdogan is the prime driver for regime change (1), not Israel. He wanted to break off the Turkoman part of Syria for annexation as part of his new Ottoman empire. Generating a weak Kurdish area he could ruthlessly suppress would also score as a win. Consider this… Russia has had the ability to jam NATO standard GPS for years. Why have they started only now (2)?

    — Erdogan just lost a 2nd attempt at an election in Constantinople
    — Erdogan is stepping up involvement in Lybia
    — Erdogan is openly fighting Syria troops around Idlib

    Right now Syria and Russia have a very serious concern. And, it is not Israeli air strikes on Iranian targets.
    _____

    I don’t think that he [Putin] will prevent Assad from fulfilling UN SC resolution by retaking the Golan Heights when the time is ripe.

    The reason why Israel took the Golan away from Syria after their unprovoked attack is its strategic position. Given Israeli reconnaissance superiority, surprise is more or less impossible. Any assaulting Syrian force would be terrain limited and be easily targeted by artillery, mortars, and air strikes as they approached Israeli fortified positions.

    Assad is going to spend decades repairing shattered northern Syria. Why would he open a new front that would result in massive destruction in Southern Syria for a plan that has little to no chance for success? Putin would certainly counsel against such folly.
    _____

    Iran and Hezbollah apparently learn from Putin and borrow from his playbook. Like Putin, they figured that time is on their side, so they are biding their time and not rushing into something emotionally satisfying, but ultimately silly and self-defeating.

    Actually just the reverse. Israel and the U.S. have learned from Putin and borrowing from his playbook. Like Putin, they figure that time is on their side, so they are not rushing into something emotionally satisfying, but ultimately silly and self-defeating.

    — UNRWA’s latest annual fundraising initiative collected less than 2 months of cash (3) for its pro-terror operations.
    — The PA’s refusal to end “Pay for Slay” has cut off another source of terror funding.
    — The EU’s attempt to fund terror via INSTEX has failed (4).

    There is no need for the Trump administration to kill a large number of Iranians which might garner sympathy for their extremist cause. Time is on the U.S. and Israel’s side. All it takes now is patiently waiting for the funding mechanisms of violence to dry up. Once that happens the door will open to permanent solutions for regional stability.

    PEACE

    ______

    (1) https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/08/turkey-syria-war-assad-erdogan-isis-kurds-pkk/568561/

    (2) https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a28250133/russia-gps-signals-israel/

    (3) https://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2019/06/unrwa-raises-110m-cash-strapped-cuts-190625185118119.html

    (4) https://en.radiofarda.com/a/iran-says-european-trade-mechanism-too-limited-to-make-a-difference/30040390.html

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  67. peterAUS says:
    @Emile

    It will be explained to me that I understand nothing and that the great genius takes care of everything … later.

    You are definitely onto something here.

    But I do not understand anything for sure.

    Of course you do.

    It’s an ancient game: the Great Leader is omniscient. He and his friends live as gods (families too). You, far down the social pyramid live as shit (your friends and family too).
    Whatever the Great Leader does (and his team) is either obviously good or it’s good but you just can’t get it. Your fault. No, you can’t do anything about it. Just keep at your place.
    People who explain all that also live well (and their friends and families). Not as well as the top, but better than your group. As long as they keep explaining that……………………
    And it feels good. “I am better than you” stuff. Soothes the soul. Makes easier to handle the humiliation.
    Ancient and eternal.

  68. A123 says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    … US increasing, always high historically, pro-nuclear bias is an obverse side of increasingly shaky conventional capabilities.

    Over use and underfunding of the military by Obama and Bush is certainly an issue. However, ‘shaky’ is a dangerous misread that could lead to folly.
    There is still plenty of capability if the need arises. Especially if the fight happens where the U.S. has favorable logistics.

    The lesson creating the resistance to invasion is the aftermath. The U.S. got stuck with a huge expense in blood and treasure after Bush’s now infamous Mission Accomplished announcement for Iraq. The Trump administration is unwilling to commit to nation building in Iran or Venezuela.

    Trump doesn’t want his legacy marred by a picture like this….
    ____

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
    , @anon
  69. @A123

    There is still plenty of capability if the need arises. Especially if the fight happens where the U.S. has favorable logistics.

    US can not have “favorable logistics” against peer power with capable stand-off weapons and air forces.

    The lesson creating the resistance to invasion is the aftermath. The U.S. got stuck with a huge expense in blood and treasure

    It is nothing compared to what US will experience in case of trying to fight peer power. Then the meaning of the term “huge” will change very fast and rather dramatically. That is why the US is inherently nuclear-biased power not capable of protracted peer-to-peer combined arms warfare which NEVER fought with its rear infrastructure and C4ISR complex under constant fire and EW impact.

    https://www.cnas.org/events/panel-discussion-a-new-american-way-of-war

    • Replies: @A123
  70. @anonymoys

    maybe he should invite Mr Korybko to write a piece about Russia, the best enemy money can buy.

    I certainly would love it–and then I would love to deconstruct Korybko’s amateurish “analysis”, including a load of confused malarkey presented as “analysis” in the link you provided. FYI, Mr. Korybko hasn’t been “right” in a long time, but, of course, for people who try to emulate Nikifor Lyapis-Trubetskoy trying to find ever new “life-giving springs of remuneration”(c) being “right” is not a main objective–Korybko is an Exhibit A of that. But then again, you, probably, never heard of “12 Chairs”.

    No, he isn’t. Putin’s master is Trump’s. I presume you know who is Trump’s master.

    Oh, no–the almighty Jew?

    • Replies: @anonymoys
  71. Moi says:
    @Rabbitnexus

    Praise Yahweh that Israel soon revert to Palestine.

  72. A123 says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    … not capable of protracted peer-to-peer combined arms warfare which NEVER fought with its rear infrastructure and C4ISR complex under constant fire and EW impact.

    How long could the Venezuelan air force maintain constant fire and EW against rear infrastructure inside the continental U.S.
    — Days? Possibly.
    — Mere hours? More likely.

    For obvious political reasons there are a large number of number of “home base” Naval Air Stations, Air Forces Bases, and Air National Guard units in Florida, Texas, and California. While some planes would be unavailable due to extended maintenance, the available force is more than adequate to exterminate Venezuelan EW assets.

    Within the U.S. favorable logistics range I suggested, there is no opponent that even vaguely approaches the peer-to-peer capabilities required by your theoretical engagement plan.

    PEACE

  73. @A123

    National Socialists are not now, nor have they ever been globalists. Capitalism and Communism are the two sides of the Zionist globalists. Both seek to concentrate wealth in fewer hands, and both are a Jewish world view.

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
  74. @A123

    Within the U.S. favorable logistics range I suggested, there is no opponent that even vaguely approaches the peer-to-peer capabilities required by your theoretical engagement plan.

    Do you understand what military “peer” is? What does Venezuela have anything to do with this? How does Venezuela even factor in here? I do not deal with purely “theoretical” engagements–I prefer numbers, models and experiences. The United States has only one real military peer today and this is Russia, with China transitioning from near-peer to peer status. How long will it take–difficult to say. Per “vaguely approaching”–the United States already has lost arms race in hyper-sonic stand-off weapons, losing it in net-centricity due to having fallen behind in EW field and is not even a peer in air-defense and anti-missile field, among few others. In simpler words, combined NATO (led by the US) force cannot win any kind of conventional conflict against Russia in her immediate geographic vicinity. Here some opinions from the link I provided, by one of the foremost US authorities on SEAD operations.

    The US military ‘gets its ass handed to it’ in World War 3 simulation – researchers

    https://www.rt.com/usa/453550-us-loses-world-war-three/

    NATO will not be able to provide “favorable logistics” because it has nothing (Zero) which can effectively defend both Lines of Communications and storage and depot facilities even if to consider a preposterous (aka fantasy) scenario that the United States and NATO will be allowed to repeat a multi-months build-up against Iraq in 1990-91. Most likely conventional scenario will be:

    1. USN loses one-two CBGs;
    2. NATO has critical air and ABM bases pulverized with thousands casualties within a day or two.

    US goes hysterical and escalates to nuclear threshold while calling on introduction of draft–well, imagine armies of SJWs and LGBTQPRTIS community rushing to enlist, and voila’–let your fantasy take you on a journey. Again, how did Venezuela even factor in all that? Did you even read latest NPR-20018? No, it is not National Public Radio.

    • Agree: Ron Unz
    • Replies: @slorter
    , @A123
  75. Avery says:
    @DESERT FOX

    {Russia knows that if they let Syria and Iran fall, that Russia would be next}

    Russia will never be the next.

    (Tsarist) Russia ground down and crushed the Wehrmacht of its day – Napoleon’s La Grande Armée,an army that had defeated the best European powers.
    USSR (mainly Russians/Slavs) ground down and annihilated the Wehrmacht, the finest, best military in the world in its day: a military that had vanquished all of Europe in a matter of months.

    With its nuclear arsenal – check out the video of Tsar Bomba – Russia will wipe out anything and everything and every attacker, if and when it goes down for the count.

    Russia learned its lesson from the terrible 90s – particularly the Chechnya wars – and does not want trouble within or near its borders. Syria and Iran are defensible perimeters: Russia can handle anything and any invader/attacker, if worse comes to worse,. But why let it get to that? Russia learned from UK&US: “Fight them over there, so we don’t have to fight them over here.”

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
    , @mr meener
  76. @Damien Pirtle

    “Israel is surrounded by many enemy states.

    Israel doesn’t need to be surrounded by enemy states. It should be moved to the continental USA. The Northeast portion of Nevada would be an ideal location. All Jewish citizens of Israel be granted dual Israel/US citizen ship(if they don’t already have it). They could even take their wailing wall and erect it in Ely, which sounds Jewish and wouldn’t need to be renamed.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  77. slorter says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Reasonable enough comment Syria is still intact! I would have thought the support for Iran would be there, it is a strategic area for both Russia and China!

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  78. @slorter

    I would have thought the support for Iran would be there, it is a strategic area for both Russia and China!

    Even if to remove, just if, a very important humanitarian (apart from obvious geopolitical and economic) factor from considerations, even the war in Gulf is not necessarily, however undesirable, a bad thing for Russia in a long run:

    1. If we are talking about pure air operation–well, I guess this will only add to the American “respect” abroad and will increase dramatically a global demand for Russian weapon systems;
    2. If the United States starts a real war against Iran, with ground invasion, well, American departure from global stage will accelerate dramatically, including radical changes domestically for the United States. Some of them could be radical and lead to armed conflict (civil war).

    But, of course, Russia also doesn’t mind clipping, ever so slightly, Iranian wings in Syria and, for now, she looks, again, ever so slightly, away from some of IAF operations, waiting for a proper configuration of forces to emerge. But Patrushev’s seminal announcement in Jerusalem, of course, makes pp.1 and 2 highly unlikely. I hope Iran got the message and Iran is not an easy ally by any stretch–it is a very complex country which could be rather unpredictable.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  79. @anonymoys

    Trump has two masters: greed and vanity. He is, indeed, a 70 year-old teenager. That’s why he is so easy to manipulate. Sure, cabal manipulates him, but others do, too.

    Putin does not seem to be afflicted by these adolescent problems. He behaves like a king who is 100% sure that the crown won’t fall off his head. That’s why he does not respond to cheap provocations, thereby infuriating his adversaries and their trolls.

    Yes, most oligarchs in Russia (as elsewhere in white countries, for that matter) are Jewish. Notice how selectively he weeded out some (Berezovsky, Gusinsky, Khodorkovsky, etc.) while keeping others (Michelson, Fridman, Rottenberg, Vekselberg, Abramovich, etc.). Obviously, he allowed only those who recognize his primacy to remain. That’s behavior of a master, not of a servant.

    • Replies: @anonymoys
  80. @Ron Unz

    It’s not even analysis, just observations. Three times in less that two years kindergarten-style tantrums of the Empire against NK, Venezuela, and Iran ended in nothing but theatrics.

    I agree that it is disconcerting to think that nukes are commanded by the people with the mentality (and likely intellectual level) of kindergarten kids. Then again, in the last 30 years nukes were in the hands of habitually drunk and not particularly bright Yeltsin, maniacal supremacist Yahu, not quite sane Indian and Pakistani leaders, but we are still alive and commenting on this site. That’s why I am cautiously optimistic.

  81. @A123

    Would have made sense, but for one little thing: two main funding sources of Islamic terrorism (both with Israeli approval) are KSA (and allied satrapies) and the budget of the US and its vassals.

    Another incongruence: what you say about Israel is what Israel wants to be (and was maybe 30 years ago), but not what it is. If Israel were as combat-ready and tolerant to casualties as it used to be, Hezbollah wouldn’t be able to resist it successfully and effectively boot it out of Lebanon. Both IDF and US military lost the edge and became paper tigers, “strong” only against unarmed civilians.

    You are welcome to dream on, though, just make sure that your dreams never face a reality check. That’s what Yahu and a succession of the US presidents are doing: avoiding reality check.

  82. @Avery

    However, if Syria fell and Iran fell, then Russia would be subject to the same zio/US and Israeli and zio/British proxy mercenaries aka AL CIADA aka ISIS that are at work in Syria, and it is my opinion that Russia does not want this to happen and so will not let Syria or Iran go down to defeat.

    It is also my opinion that the reason Trump backed off on the airstrike was that Russia let it be known that this would be crossing the Rubicon, and all the bullshit Trump put out about cancelling the airstrike was just that, bullshit, and in regards to that, read the book Blood In The Water by Joan Mellen and what Russia intended to do if the US nuked Cairo, and this was in the plans if the USS Liberty would have been sunk, this book is documented from front to back with 48 pages of footnotes, every patriotic American should read this book.

    Also I agree with you on the Russian capability, but the zionists believe they can using the zio/US survive a nuclear war with Russia via their DUMBs ie Deep Underground Military Bases that they have throughout the zio/US and Europe and Israel, for example do a search on Dulce, New Mexico and the Denver airport, for just two examples and the zionists care not how many tens of millions would die as long as they survive.

  83. anarchyst says:
    @acementhead

    Absolutely NOT! In fact, EVERY “dual citizenship” American citizen should be given a choice of citizenship. Choose other than united States and face mandatory permanent loss of American citizenship and deportation to israel.

    • Replies: @acementhead
  84. @A123

    Then why does the US consistently avoid real confrontations even with ostensibly inferior military powers, like NK, Venezuela, Iran? After lots of theatrics, threats, and hot talk form the Empire, not from its chosen victims. Something does not gibe, don’t you think?

    • Replies: @A123
  85. Art says:

    The US military has a systemic problem – recruitment.

    It cannot recruit the talent it needs to conduct a modern war. The students in our schools are taught to look down on patriotism and the military. For those with tech talent – military pay cannot keep up with the private sector.

    Also, as it gets a reputation as a gay haven (within 10 years) – the military will lose its appeal to the young in the South and West.

    China as a command nation, does not have that problem – probably Russia also.

  86. The Saker, those mafia rats in Moscow have much done worse than the US to Iran and the Iranians for the past 300 years! In fact the Iranians trust the Russian Mafia much much less than those in US even today.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  87. anonymoys says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    “I certainly would love it–and then I would love to deconstruct Korybko’s amateurish “analysis””

    Then, Dear Sir, could you please write an article “deconstructing Korybko’s amateurish analysis” and ask Mr Unz to publish it so we, the ignorant, can learn from your brilliant scholarship ?

    I believe Mr Unz, a truth teller , won’t refuse your request.

    “Oh, no–the almighty Jew?”

    Like Trump, Putin’s master is certainly NOT the Russian People, although we all know that Putin is a “great democrat” who won several elections. Like all American Presidents.

  88. @Monty Ahwazi

    Imperial dreams. Sweet dreams. But only dreams. Try not to wake up to ugly reality.

  89. I don’t know, seems that since the Soviet Union fell, Russia has been letting this happen. Soviet Union was always pretty close with Libya, then US NATO wanted to destroy and loot them and Russia just goes along with it,called Gaddafi “illegitimate” and suggested he resign. Abstaining on the UN vote for no fly zone. Surely Russia knew what was going to happen after Yugoslavia, Iraq x 2, Afghanistan x 2. Seems that Russia is playing along for the most part.

    They’re not doing enough in Syria, half a million already dead and refugees gone wild. Israel is just having a field day bombing them on the regular, already so much is destroyed that even if the refugees did return they would have nowhere to go. Raqqa was pretty much leveled. They should have put their foot down in Syria long ago, the longer it goes the worse it gets. Russia has to understand that the only thing Israel Europe or America understand is violence, they’re going to have to start shooting down some jets if they want to be taken seriously, otherwise things will continue.

    Everyone seems to think sitting around playing with their peckers and talking about peace and muh 2 state solution will stop Israel and bring peace. Its pretty clear Israel has no intent to make peace with anyone, they only want to keep expanding and ethnically cleansing anyone in their way. Sadly it looks like only a real good bloody nose or outright destruction will stop them. Israelis are a brainwashed bunch, big time racists and supremacists, you can’t reason with those types, at least not without putting them in their place first, usually by kicking the shit out of them. American support allows this to go on.

    I don’t know folks, looks to me like the evil communists were the only thing stopping the empire from destroying and enslaving the world. Since Russia went capitalist, looks like they’re mostly licking empire boot.

    Hope I’m wrong, hopefully they help Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua now that they’re back in the line of fire. I don’t think Trump will allow Iran shooting war to kick off before he’s re-elected, I have no doubt that if he is re-elected he will try to destroy Iran. Lets not forget that sanctions ARE an act of war, siege warfare, killed half a million Iraqis before the invasion, have killed 40,000 Venezuelans since Trump took office. Honestly sanctions are probably worse than bombs, bombs/bullets are instant, suffering is much worse with starvation or preventable disease. Just muh opinion. Doesn’t look good.

  90. anonymoys says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Being a very busy man, you don’t have time to read Mr Korybko’s article and answer my question.

    And maybe also the reason you don’t answer is simply because you know perfectly well that you CAN’T.

    We all know that you and that “brilliant scholar”(Andrei Martyanov) are not interested in true , as far Russia is concerned anyway. Like Saker, propaganda is your forte.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @AnonFromTN
    , @anon
  91. Anonymous[382] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymoys

    FB, no need to hide, we recognize you anyway 🙂

    • Replies: @anonymoys
  92. @Black Picard

    That’s the whole idea, to reach a point of no return and then step in as saviours with a “New World Order” of global control.

  93. @anonymoys

    Sorry, never did propaganda. If you think it’s my forte, maybe I should. However, I doubt very much that it can pay more than my day job.

    As to Mr. Korybko piece you linked, it has important words like “alleged”. We don’t really know what was hit by Israeli airstrikes, if anything. We do know, though, that after Russia supplied Syria with C-300, Israeli planes do not dare enter its airspace, always fire from Lebanon.

    We also know another fact: Assad remains, whereas all the clowns who used to repeat “Assad must go” mantra are gone: Obama, Holland, Abbot, etc. Mutti is the only one still standing, or rather shaking in public. The first time I thought that the reason was Ukrainian anthem: it is well known to induce gag reflex in pretty much every normal person. However, the second time she did shake-dance performance that horrible piece was not playing, so it must be her.

    We also know that after lots of theatrics, hot air, and two false flags, the Empire chickened out of attacking Iran, even though Iranians acknowledged shooting down imperial spy drone.

    We know that shortly before that the Empire chickened out of supporting militarily the piece of shit it proclaimed to be the president of Venezuela.

    Before Venezuela the Empire chickened out of attack on NK, after ridiculous theatrics of sending three aircraft carrier battle groups presumably in it direction.

    To summarize, Assad remains the leader of Syria, Un remains the leader of NK, Maduro remains the president of Venezuela, Ayatollahs remain in power in Iran. The Empire limits itself to childish tantrums, which become less and less convincing after each performance.

    As a scientist, I believe experimental evidence. In my world, when the facts don’t fit the theory (or analysis, to use your term), you throw away the theory and try to come up with a better one that fits the facts. I wish Mr. Korybko to follow the same course of action.

    • Replies: @windwaves
    , @anonymoys
  94. Did I hear or read correctly: Does Russia still sport a Rothschild owned and controlled central bank replete with fractional reserve, income taxes/national debt financial thingy?

  95. anon[246] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    Over use and underfunding of the military by Obama and Bush is certainly an issue”

    over use was ordered by Jewish group against Iraq Somalia Yemen Libya and Afghanistan. That same group wants the military to be used against Syria Iran Venezuela .

    Military y spending is underfunded !! That is what the Jewish would object and would prevent as they did in 1974 against McGivern . It is extremely well funded .

  96. anon[246] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymoys

    by Thomas Buonomo

    Russia’s swift military intervention in 2015 to maintain the Syrian regime in power should give American policymakers reason to be wary of war with Iran, which would expand across Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, and the Gulf. As former Secretary of State John Kerry wrote in his memoir, Russia gave the Obama administration “no indication of what was coming” in Syria.

    From the Russian perspective, Iran serves as a valuable geostrategic foil to U.S. dominance of the Middle East and its resulting ability to further influence global oil and gas prices to Russia’s detriment. Iran also limits the U.S. ability to reallocate its resources to pressure Russia to enter into the U.S.-led international order.

    Russia has also provided diplomatic cover to Iran’s provision of ballistic missiles to the Houthis, which they have been firing into Saudi territory.

    lobelog.com

    • Replies: @anonymoys
  97. windwaves says:

    facts so far hardly demonstrate your thesis Mr. Saker.

    To the contrary, all seem to suggest that president Putin cannot fully support Iran or Syria due precisely to israel’s influence everywhere, including Russian foreign policy.

    Frankly, yours is not even a thesis, it is wishful thinking based upon baseless interpretation of events.

    Things are heating up enough in the region and some mess is likely going to explode big enough to force all parties to show their hands. This is not good anyhow.

  98. windwaves says:
    @AnonFromTN

    chickened out here and there and everywhere…..yes, to some extent I do not disagree. My point though is that if the unbelievable happened, which is that the US has finally learned a bit from the long history of failed wars, then what do you think will happen next ?

    Do you think the US is ready to then give up its imperialist goals ? Do you think they are just going to back down ? Do you think the military industrial complex and israel and US jews are going to let that ever happen ?

    No my friend. And they already have an answer: it would have to be using theater nukes and, of all nations, the US would be the one capable of actually using them again.

    Lets hope not.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  99. tjp says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    “Yet I remain hopeful that I will see the day come when the US, Russia and Palestine are all liberated from their oppressors and recover their full sovereignty.”

    Who are the real oppressors and who are the friends, allies, partners, etc ? Cant have it both ways.

  100. @anarchyst

    Well I’m not USAian so it’s none of my business but I’d like to see no Israel in the ME and I think that if Israel is located within the USA then there would be no wars for Israel happening and thus no problem from Jewish influence over US politics. I don’t believe the existence of Israel ‘makes Jews safer’ it makes everybody in the world much less safe, and significantly poorer.

  101. anonymoys says:
    @AnonFromTN

    One of “the best and brightest” of Kennedy administration and a well known war criminal is supposedly to have said : This is not an argument. It’s an orgasm.

    Reading your posts, I couldn’t fail to remember the “great” man’s reply and I can’t resist to say yours isn’t even an orgasm. But you have lots of “arguments”. I mean you put words after words.

    You use lots of them. You like them(words), you change subject, probably believing that being a member(aren’t you?) of 1% -top IQ- stupid people won’t notice that you’re changing subject.

    Let me apologize for my words. No insult is intended. I rarely comment here (or anywhere else) because it’s a waste of time. You see, people like words and they take words for reality.

    One writes: “That’s (Putin’s) behavior of a master, not of a servant.”…So Putin is a master.

    It’s therefore useless to prove with facts -as Mr. Korybko does- that the master is The King of Israel, who, as everyone who doesn’t take words for reality, knows very well.

    Do accept my apologies.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  102. anonymoys says:
    @anon

    Russia’s intervention in Syria was authorized by the King of Israel.

    Why?

    I don’t know. My guess is that Russia is doing what she has been told to do. Military Bank Complex needs a powerful enemy. Russia plays that role very successfully. That probably explains why we hear a lot about Russian presence in Venezuela. Cubans-lots of them-are in Venezuela.
    I presume Cubans can’t be seen as threat to american values and “great” democracy. Even american people won’t take Cubans as a serious threat. Hence “Russian Presence” in Venezuela.

    Bad cop/Good cop seems also to be the role that Russia is playing in Ukraine. Otherwise how can one understand that a military powerful country that lost millions of men and women because of the fascists would accept fascists in power in Ukraine ?

    There won’t be any war with Iran because the zionists aren’t stupid. They know perfectly well that if they start the fire they won’t be able to put it down. They can certainly destroy Iran but maybe even Israel will be destroyed in the process.

    That won’t be a great victory. The objective in Iran, Venezuela is regime change.

    In Syrian, the objective is “federalization.” Some call it ” “Bantustanization”

    The great “master” (Putin) seems to be for “Bantustanization”, in name of “peace”, of course not because ” bantustans” are good for the great Israel

    • Replies: @Lo
  103. Biff says:
    @Black Picard

    I mean, do the treasonous Swamp rats in the District of Criminals, New York & the City of London really think that the millions of pro-2A American citizens (consisting of: state Militias + OathKeepers + ex-pissed off Vietnam/Iraq War military Vets with serious fcuking grievances + roughly 20 to 40+ million hunters ) are just going to sit back when they finally get the most perfect storm necessary to eradicate the Deep State Zio scum once and for all?

    Sit back? No they will definitely not sit back. They will support the ZOG empire until it looks like Dresden in 1945 – it’s called Patriotism, and the worse things get around them the harder they will cling to it. The masters of their universe know it, for they know how to spend the money on Fourth of July parades, football game flyovers, and full spectrum dominance over a patriotic media.

    As Gore Vidal once said the United States is a mere shadow of its original self, and if someone is looking for “the most perfect storm necessary to eradicate the Deep State Zio scum once and for all” they are awfully late to the party.

    Sorry Charlie

    • Replies: @mr meener
  104. @PeterMX

    Exactly. The Ukrainian “Nazis” are just hired muscle who will be eliminated when they’ve outlived their usefulness. On this issue the Russians are being emotional and wasting their time.

  105. @follyofwar

    I think you’ve answered your question to some extent: Trump has done nothing but tweet! Yes, he could do much more and has proved very disappointing in many ways. But at the end of the day there has been no war and, despite the efforts of Likudnik trolls like Bolton and Pompeo, there likely won’t be.

    Saker is right: the Zionists have suffered a major strategic defeat. Continued Israeli airstrikes are not a minor issue but mainly a tactical concern. Like Stalingrad, the war is far from over, but the cracks are clearly there.

  106. AmRusDebate says: • Website

    How funny Saker. Reading your article, and sitting in Tel Aviv, I’d have to conclude that I’d be better off nuking Moscow rather than Tehran or Damascus, if I ever wanted to see Israel survive as a state. The impression you give, is that without Putin’s stalwart support for Tehran, Tehran would be up a river without a paddle.

    Interestingly you choose to completely ignore n that Russia has explicitly denied providing any military cover (air or otherwise) to Iranian units in the Syrian theater of war. Nor has it uttered a single word against Israel taking out actual Iranian assets. Russia deplores the violation of Syrian air space, not the taking out of Iranian or Hezbollah gear or assets. Wording of official Russian statements is terse, and consistent. Russia has, from day one, deliberately hampered its operations in Syria. It refuses to become Iran’s air force. It refuses to become Iran’s lackey. To suborn Russian military might to that of theocratic Iran.

    Russia respects Israel’s national security interests, identifies very little with those of Iran, and has enough self-respect to avoid becoming someone’s bargaining chip.

    Has Russia publicly defended Iranian military actions in Syria? At most it has stated that it is up to Assad to decide who can and cannot operate in Syria.

    So far, no activity by the S-300. Why is that? We get contradictory info from Russian authorities. They are training, they are out of electricity, today it was too hot, yesterday too cold, the training is incomplete, they forgot to install a toilet, they are active only between the hours of 3 and 4 am, etc.

    I.e. largely BS. More likely, Russia is willing to swallow the public humiliation of an inactive S-300 because it already benefits from its deterrence.

    Why did Moscow sell a more advanced system to Turkey. Same Turkey which Russia handed Afrin and Idlib. Can be read as a disservice to Assad.

    No formal treaties have been signed committing Russia to a scintilla of Iran’s national security interests, not to mention even minor military cooperation. All of which argues for a far more nuanced position than your one-sided facts lead on. “Allies” in words, are not allies in contractual terms.

    I for one do not think Putin would “sell out Iran” since there is nothing to sell out. A sell out, concretely, not theoretically, means withdrawing Rosatom from Bushehr.

    Your defense of Putin is admirable, but you exaggerate and invent the strategic relationship with Iran, to a point that your article provides rational for a more aggressive DC policy viz a viz Russia.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  107. @A123

    That’s your argument? That the US could wipe out a basket case like Venezuela if it really wanted? Are you completely stupid?

    • Troll: A123
  108. @Andrei Martyanov

    Yes. Russia will never let Iran fall, but it doesn’t follow that Russian and Iranian interests are completely aligned in Syria (or the ME as such). Russia has to balance things here.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  109. @Art

    The US military is mainly able to maintain its “voluntary” staffing through parasitical finance capitalism (QE and such) bleeding the economy dry and forcing many young people into the military due to economic necessity.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  110. A123 says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Then why does the US consistently avoid real confrontations even with ostensibly inferior military powers, like NK, Venezuela, Iran?

    Why have a military confrontation that kills a large number of people without linkage to a strategic goal?

    Trump is a not an Ayatollah who believes violence is the first and only answer. He is a genuine though imperfect Christian and thus does not want unnecessary suffering.

    He is successfully using words and economic power to achieve strategic goals. Containment of violence sponsored by Iran and Venezuela is succeeding without the need for military action and the subsequent U.S. taxpayer gouge for nation building.
    ____

    After lots of theatrics, threats, and hot talk

    Why does Trump use “theatrics, threats, and hot talk”? How else is he going to manipulate the lying, ultra-left, Fake Stream Media? He has to give them juicy stories that they must cover and cannot easily twist.

    Why does Trump keep Bolton in a high visibility position? So, he can publicly disagree with him at select moments. The the Fake Stream Media is faced with supporting Bolton or supporting Trump. It drives nutsos like CNN’s Jim Acosta into mouth frothing incoherence.
    _____

    Something does not gibe, don’t you think?

    The problem you are having with your “gibe” is a failing to realise the present is different than the past.
    — Acolytes of Soros and his National Socialist / Globalist theology have been in power for some time. Smug elitists like Obama, Bush, Clinton, Merkel, and Macron for example. They represent the Past.
    — In the Present — Trump, Salvini, and Orban are Christian Populists leading their citizens away from the National Socialist elites of the Past. It is a journey that will take time and have setbacks.

    You, and other posters here, need to reset assumptions about the U.S. The election of Trump is revolutionary change not an evolutionary one. Elite National Socialists made many global problems worse. However, those people are not the current U.S. leadership and never represented the U.S. people.

    Please do not inaccurately conflate Globalism and the U.S. They are two very different and mutually exclusive things.

    PEACE

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  111. Art Best says:

    Saker,

    How do you know that Israeli bombing did not materially damage Iranian/Hezbollah assets, thence their ally Syria itself?

    References? Evidence?

    To argue my central point (that Israel bombed and caused damage in Syria) you only have to refer to reality itself as reported in the newspapers. (You’re not actually denying that Israeli bombing did take place and cause damage, are you?)

    Let’s see you publish this note at your own blog and dissect it with your scintillating intelligence as you did with my initial commentary, calling me a troll.

  112. #64, “I believe only fools still read Saker”

    E x a c t l y

  113. @Beefcake the Mighty

    follow that Russian and Iranian interests are completely aligned in Syria (or the ME as such)

    Indeed. In fact, there are many contradictions between the two. Iran sees herself as a regional superpower (granted, they have a shot at that) which, in Russia’s view, is not exactly a desirable outcome because there is an Arab issue, especially that of Saudi Arabia, involved and Russia has a lot of business to do there (in Arab world) with Sunnis. Moreover, couple days ago, Iran’s Foreign Ministry blamed…. Russia for a situation with the tanker arrested in Gibraltar by UK. Some “ally”, isn’t she. So, as they say: “It is complicated.” As I point out for years now (it is a well-known fact), even Syria’s armed forces, intelligence and foreign policy establishment contain heavily pro-Iranian factions, which sometimes, in the last 4 years of war played a detrimental role in the progress of operations in Syria against ISIS. Not to mention well documented facts of pure jealousy.

  114. @A123

    Trump is a not an Ayatollah who believes violence is the first and only answer

    An interesting statement. Last time Iran attacked anyone was ages ago. The US was at war ~90% of the time of its existence. Just the last 20 years saw US aggression (no UN approval) against Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria, etc. So, who is a believer in violence, pray?

    As to revolution, Trump reminds me of another old saying: “The more things change, the more they remain the same”.

    • Replies: @A123
  115. A123 says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    You are not following the discussion and allowing tangents to intrude.

    From your post #69:

    In fact, US increasing, always high historically, pro-nuclear bias is an obverse side of increasingly shaky conventional capabilities.

    From my post #72:

    … ‘shaky’ is a dangerous misread that could lead to folly.
    There is still plenty of capability if the need arises. Especially if the fight happens where the U.S. has favorable logistics…. The lesson creating the resistance to invasion is the aftermath. ….The Trump administration is unwilling to commit to nation building in Iran or Venezuela.

    You the went off point in your #73. The discussion is about Venezuela and Iran, apparently your discourse was about something else.

    At #76 I tried to bring you back on point by using the case of Venezuela, which I explicitly mentioned in #72. Here is exactly what I said:

    Within the U.S. favorable logistics range I suggested, there is no opponent that even vaguely approaches the peer-to-peer capabilities required by your theoretical engagement plan.

    At #78 you actually agree with me:

    The United States has only one real military peer today and this is Russia, with China transitioning from near-peer to peer status.

    The logistics for both Russia and China are transoceanic and thus not particularly favorable. So you do agree that within the favorable logistics range I suggested there are no peer-to-peer rivals.

    So you actually concur with my point. The U.S. military is not ‘shaky’ and has adequate power to take Venezuela in large part due to favorable logistics. The reason it does not is that the price for the aftermath is far too high.

    PEACE

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  116. @anonymoys

    you change subject

    That’s the first time I heard that providing the context means changing subject. Whatever. Some people are open to arguments, others are true believers. It is pointless to argue with the latter.

  117. @windwaves

    You are right in one thing: no imperial power ever voluntarily relinquished its imperial policies. But here is the rub: tactical nukes would inevitably be followed by strategic nukes. Even degenerate US elites have enough smarts left to understand that. My cautious optimism is based on the assumption that even degenerate elites have enough smarts to understand that they can enjoy their loot only as long as they remain alive. If they are too dumb even for that, all bets are off.

  118. Dmitry says:
    @James Speaks

    Saker is responding to what are now possibly thousands of comments on his blog and emails that complain of Russia’s insouciance

    Seems more like voices in the head (“the “Putin sold out to Netanyahu” campaign did not stop.”)

    The author seems to living in a parallel universe where there exists a campaign (like a political campaign?) about ““Putin sold out to Netanyahu””.

    And after that sentence text becomes impossible to understand for a normal person (as always from this author).

    His nationality is Swiss, his ethnicity is Russian, and he does live in Central Florida.

    According to the internet search I did, he is from Switzerland and lives in Florida. It say his ancestors were half from Netherlands and on his mother’s side his great-grandparents were from Russia.

    So if part of his great-grandparents were originally from Russia – perhaps there is a chance Russia is to blame, for having voices in your head is something which has a genetic basis.

  119. @A123

    So you actually concur with my point.

    You are free to think any way you want.

    The logistics for both Russia and China are transoceanic and thus not particularly favorable.

    Russia is a hyper-continental power barely dependent on transoceanic Lines of Communications. Look at the map and Russia’s infrastructure.

    • Replies: @A123
  120. A123 says:
    @AnonFromTN

    An interesting statement. Last time Iran attacked anyone was ages ago.

    Last time Iran attacked anyone was yesterday. Iranian al’Hamas attempted to fly a weaponized attack drone into Israel (1).

    Think carefully before you try to say al’Hamas under Iranian funding, command, and control is not Iran. That will be the benchmark used to determine if CIA funding, command, and control of other groups is not U.S.

    PEACE

    _____

    (1) https://www.algemeiner.com/2019/07/08/idf-shoots-down-drone-from-gaza/

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @anon
  121. Dmitry says:
    @AmRusDebate

    Moscow sell a more advanced system to Turkey.

    Turkey has money and buys things.

    In addition, Turkey is extremely important as an economic relationship with Russia.

    Selling to Turkey also has advantage, that Turkey buying S-300 complexes might force them to buy planes in the future (as America does not allow duel purchases from Russia and America, and will ban the F-35 from selling to Turkey).

    It damages relations on the America-Turkey vector, and could result in future purchases of Russian planes.

    There’s no comparison of the relationship with Syria. Turkey is a strong, quite independent country and major regional power.

    Whereas Syria is envisioned to become more like a “dependency”. Kremlin has been a long and importantly invested in the Assad family, including $9.8 billion debt write off in 2005.
    http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2005/Jan-26/71201-russia-writes-off-98-billion-of-syrian-debt.ashx

    So there is also an issue of “sunk costs” with Syria as well.

    Russia respects Israel’s national security interests, identifies very little with those of Iran,

    Geopolitically, Russia and Israel should be enemies, as they are allied on the other side of the Russia-America conflict.

    However, Putin, and probably some others, are quite pro-Israel, considering the geopolitical alignment. For example, if you watch television in Russia about Israel, most television reports about Israel are pro-Israel, especially compared to other European countries (for example British television is a lot more anti-Israel).

    So the media attitude to Israel is less hostile than it should be (considering both UK and Israel are allied to America, and yet British television is more anti-Israel). Why is this?

    Aside from being irrational, probably they have also decided that one of their objectives for the Middle East policy, is to “push” Israel away from the Western bloc. This will never happen, but it seems like it is one of their unrealistic fantasy ideas (for example, why is English language RT designed for Westerners really anti-Israel, if not because in some fantasy way they want to weaken its support from the West?).

    As for Iran. It’s important for Russia, as it can buy a lot of products from Russia. But this depends on Iran being a little isolated from other countries. When Iran is not isolated, then it starts to buy more from Germany and France, than from Russia.

    Iran is important, but its best position (from a Kremlin perspective) is when Iran is isolated and therefore dependent.

    This can also extend to nuclear energy (where they depend on Russia), military technology (where they depend on buying from Russia e.g. S-300), and even oil deals where Iran is now “oil for goods” deal with Russia.

    So the policy for Iran is quite subtle. You want to be friendly with Iran (so they become dependent on you), and at the same time it is desirable for Iran to be isolated from the West. Finally, it is not desirable if Iran becomes too bankrupt or has no money, or if it attains nuclear weapons, or if becomes a warzone – as even the oil price spike in the latter, will be short and could crash the world economy.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  122. A123 says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    You are free to think any way you want.

    Does this mean you agree or disagree. Please answer the questions directly:

    — Do you agree that Venezuela is logistically close to the U.S. ?
    — Do you agree that the U.S. military could invade and conquer the critical coast line areas of Venezuela?

    Russia is a hyper-continental power barely dependent on transoceanic Lines of Communications. Look at the map and Russia’s infrastructure.

    This statement has no relevance to the discussion about Venezuela and Iran.
    _____

    To the readership here it seems like you are losing on point and are desperately trying to change the subject. Feel free to flail some more, but you are only making yourself look foolish.

    PEACE

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  123. @A123

    Last time Iran attacked anyone was yesterday. Iranian al’Hamas attempted to fly a weaponized attack drone into Israel

    That’s the spin typical of the US and hasbara trolls. Does not even merit an answer. The US and hasbara trolls also like to blame Iran for the aggression of KSA and allied satrapies against Yemen. Considering that Israel annexed most of UN-designated Gaza, that’s another example of blaming the house owner, rather than the robber, for the break-in.

    • Replies: @A123
  124. @Dmitry

    Geopolitically, Russia and Israel should be enemies, as they are allied on the other side of the Russia-America conflict.

    “Geopolitically” Israelis are smarter than American geopolitical “establishment” (largely consisting of Jews, with some exceptions) and as smarter people they hedge their risks–which is the obverse side of America’s (obvious) decline and Russia’s emergence as major broker in the ME. This is not to mention this funny fact that very many Israelis have also Russian citizenship. “Should” and “would” are great concepts, except in real geopolitics the only thing which matters is real (not propaganda) power.

    that Turkey buying S-300 complexes

    Turkey never bought S-300 complexes and never planned on doing this, because she bought S-400, a rather dramatic improvement on S-300s.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  125. @A123

    To the readership here it seems like you are losing on point and are desperately trying to change the subject. Feel free to flail some more, but you are only making yourself look foolish.

    OK, let’s settle on that–I look foolish.

    • Replies: @bluedog
  126. Dmitry says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Yes I intended to write S-400.

    Turkey buying this is a major victory from a Russian perspective and major problem an American perspective – as America removes the opportunity for Turkey to purchase the F-35, and as a result Turkey could even have to buy Russian planes.

    Currently, Turkey’s airforce is buying entirely American planes.

    Israelis are smarter than American geopolitical

    It’s more simply, because Israel is strong enough economically and politically, that it can try to have a slightly “independent foreign policy”.

    However, Israel needs to be careful to stay in the American camp, as America is gives billions of dollars of military equipment free to Israel, support for Israel at the UN and also is its second main economic partner (after the EU).

    It’s the same situation with their relation to China. If Israel becomes friendly with China, then America could withdraw support.

    Situation is testing now:

    Israeli minister’s Chinese romance provokes US
    https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-israeli-ministers-chinese-romance-provokes-us-1001265841

    Of course, in such a situation, Israel will always choose America over China or Russia, as they are currently highly dependent on American support.

    very many Israelis have also Russian citizenship

    And many immigrants to Israel (or had) Ukrainian citizenship, so it just contributes to diversity of views in the public.

    One interesting thing effect is that Israel has received tens of thousands of immigrants from East Ukraine since 2014 – some will support Kiev, but others were separatist fighters e.g.:

  127. @Dmitry

    Israel is simply preparing for the times when they bleed their current host (the US) white and will need another host to leech onto. Besides, in contrast to the current degenerate US elites, Israeli elites have foresight and calculate several moves ahead, like good chess players. They know that 10-15 years from now the US will lose its top perch, so they would need an alternative protector. Israel was surrounded by hostile powers when it was created, and its actions since that time made all its neighbors a lot more hostile than they were back then. They know full well that their “friends” in the KSA and other Gulf satrapies will be overthrown (and hanged, if they don’t run away in time) even before the US gets its comeuppance.

  128. anon[272] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    (1) https://www.algemeiner.com/2019/07/08/idf-shoots-down-drone-from-gaza/

    I can quote Yeltsin to make you read that he was a great democrat and sober all his life .

    Quoting a filthy Zionist paper to spin Zionism into brighter shining light by blaming its victim is like offering the quotes of the spokesperson of pol pot regime as evidences of the great things Pol Pot did to Cambodians .

    Try something better . Don’t think that everybody thinks the way you are raised to think .

  129. A123 says:

    Considering that Israel annexed most of UN-designated Gaza,

    The United Nations regularly breaks International Law:
    — Your example of the UN trying to override binding international law to steal parts of Jewish Palestine, such as Gaza, via “designation” is merely one example.
    — UNRWA is the worst violator of International Law in the region. They openly allow their facilities to be used as terrorist weapons depots and rocket launch bases (1). If it only happened once their denials might work, but weapons caches are found on a regular basis.

    Following international law means ignoring a the drivel that comes out of the United Nations. Disbanding the UN would be a huge step forward towards a better world.
    ____

    For any who might be unfamiliar with it, here is the binding International Law map for the Palestinian Mandate from the 1920’s.
    — 77% Muslim Palestine (a.k.a. Transjordan)
    — 23% Jewish Palestine (a.k.a. Israel)

    PEACE

    _____

    (1) https://www.timesofisrael.com/rockets-found-in-unrwa-school-for-third-time/

    • Replies: @Davidson20
    , @anon
    , @AnonFromTN
  130. @A123

    #137

    or you live in a parallel world, or you are a propaganda robot or you are a drunk fan of cheap ideology or you are a poor mentally ill

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  131. anon[272] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    Leopold Amery helped draft the Balfour Declaration, 1917. He also encouraged Ze’ev Jabotinsky in the formation of the Jewish Legion for the British Army in Palestine.
    Amery was opposed to the Constitution of the League of Nations because he believed that the world was not equal and so the League,
    Wikipedia

    The author of the Balfour Declaration, Leopold Amery, is Jewish, ( https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/secret-jew-drafted-balfour-declaration)

    —-/

    Let’s unpack this /
    Create a militia and gather all the benefits if a trained army on the back of s super power
    Bribe the power to draft a declaration and name it after the goym – Balfour declaration
    Create an international body and keep the rights to the super powers .
    Keep on maintaining the control on the super powers .
    Let the international body utter some shits like human divinity freedom equality democracy people’s voices but always keep the eyes on the hall – is the super power of goym doing the bidding fur the master Zion or not . It is bad when it engages in things like criticizing the Israeli atrocities or capture or initiation of violence or only allowing an incomplete partition or not agreeing on war against Iraq or Iran or not supporting the assassination of civilians and children in Gaza .

    It was good when it bribed by Zio , agreed to partition in Nov 1947 and when it agreed under pressure to allow gulf war 1.

    • Replies: @A123
  132. mr meener says:
    @Biff

    you are 100000% right. fat cowardly graybeard mostly white gun owners will and have done nothing about their genocide. they will be to bust raising their mulatto grandkids while waving the flag

  133. mr meener says:
    @Avery

    general winter beat the french and germans

    • Replies: @Avery
  134. mr meener says:
    @Art

    young guys should look down on fake patriotism which means fight wars for the jews. why would any young guy want to fight for US when that govt is genociding whites in the US?

  135. A123 says:
    @AnonFromTN

    See #137 for my reply. For some reason it did not thread correctly.

  136. Avery says:
    @mr meener

    {general winter beat the french and germans}

    Sour grapes from sore losers.

    General/Marshal Kutuzov et. al. and the Russian fighters and people beat the French.
    General/Marshal Zhukov et. al. and the Soviet fighters and peoples beat the Germans.

    Russians/Soviets fought under the same freezing conditions as the invaders.
    The disinformation and the propaganda about the so-called ‘General Winter’ is meant to deny Russians/Soviets the richly earned and deserved credit for defeating both invaders, which had previously vanquished all of Europe, and had crushed Europe’s best armies

    • Agree: Andrei Martyanov
    • Replies: @Lo
  137. @Dmitry

    I really like a typical exceptionalist logic. How this:

    because Israel is strong enough economically and politically, that it can try to have a slightly “independent foreign policy”.

    corresponds to this:

    Of course, in such a situation, Israel will always choose America over China or Russia, as they are currently highly dependent on American support.

    In the same post defies my simple genetic Russian logical ways but somehow making mutually exclusive statements should, I assume, disclose some “depth”. Reality, however, is very simple–Russia can make Israel’s life miserable really fast if she wishes, while the United States is at the end of her ropes in doing anything sensible, other than supplying second-rate military technology, to “defend” Israel. As I believe it was Jerusalem Post which made about 7 or so years ago such observation: it is better to have Russia inside the tent and allow her to urinate outside the tent, then the other way around. Since then things changed dramatically. Many Israelis (not all, though) seem to fail to recognize that.

    And many immigrants to Israel (or had) Ukrainian citizenship, so it just contributes to diversity of views in the public.

    The word “diversity” by now should have a rather negative connotation, including when applied to “opinions”, because there are very many opinions, while actual reality is single. This, plus, I heard Tel-Aviav has a wonderfully vibrant LGBT scene and massive pride parades. I am sure that also adds to “diversity” of opinions and to the esprit de corps’ of Tzahal.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  138. A123 says:
    @anon

    Let’s unpack this further:

    Violent invasive Islam arrived in Jerusalem ~637 AD. The followers of the Blood Prophet Muhammad gave infidels (Jews and Christians) three options:
    -1- Death
    -2- Forced conversion
    -3- And very rarely, Dhimmi enslavement
    If the United Nations is a “Paragon of Virtue” it should openly speak out against the most massive war crime this planet has ever known. Of course, it will not.

    And now, when the Jewish victims of Muslim atrocities get back less than 1/4 of the land stolen from them, violent Islam screams “TOO MUCH”. The failed organization that is the United Nations is submissive before the violent Muslim war criminals. UN bodies try to violate international law to steal land from the victims who received so little.

    It should be obvious to everyone that the United Nations is indefensible and must be abolished.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @ANON
  139. @A123

    I like this mandate of long defunct League of Nations, dated 1922. What was the Ottomans’ take on the area? Or of the Arabian Khalifate? Or of the Roman Empire? Or of the Empire of Alexander the Great? What did ancient Egyptians think? Or Babylonians? Or our dear chimp-like ancestors? Tell us, don’t make us wait.

    • Replies: @A123
  140. A123 says:
    @AnonFromTN

    No waiting required… I mostly answered your question with my post #147.

    You really only have three options:

    -1- Muslim force was ‘Right’ in 637 AD. The precedent is set “FORCE = RIGHTNESS”. Therefore, Jews are in the right taking their land back because they have the force end the Muslim occupation of Judea and Samaria.

    -2- Muslim force was ‘Wrong’ in 637 AD. Then the precedent is set “FORCE = WRONGNESS”. In which case, Islam needs to live up to that standard and depart the land wrongly stolen by force.

    -3- Or… You believe there is one set of rules for superior Muslims, and there is a different set of rules for inherently inferior Infidels. As a tip, this is almost exactly what the Germans believed in the early 1940’s. It did not go well for them.

    We await your choice….. queue music from Let’s Make a Deal… Which will it be Door #1, Door #2, or Door #3? Tell us don’t make us wait.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  141. anon[250] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    I unpacked the history to make you better informed .

    It seems you are just unpacking the layers of convoluted personal thinkings .

    You are losing your sanity by asking UN to address the Dhimni . It was when 800 AD !! Thousands time better than your Dhminitude practiced by Jews . UN should address that .

    Was Sasson a victim of Dhmini ! He was kicked out of Baghdad court for corruption , he went to I do’s and brought diseases , corruptions deaths to I dis and China by influencing British and planting opium .

    He even got married to / in Rothschilds family .

    China still hates this man .

  142. Dmitry says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    United States is at the end of her ropes in doing anything sensible, other than supplying second-rate military technology, to “defend” Israel.

    I don’t understand your claim United States is giving “second-rate military technology” to Israel.

    Some of the newest first-rate equipment that will go to American military like F-35 (which will now not go to Turkey), is also going to Israel.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II

    In addition, America (at least with Trump) protect Israel diplomatically in the UN, and are second largest trading partner (after the EU).

    In other words, Israel is by its own self-interest will need to very strongly side with America.

    : it is better to have Russia inside the tent and allow her to urinate outside the tent,

    Israel is in the American tent simply, even when a less friendly Democrat president will be there, and American tent does not allow Russia inside.

    However, Israel is strong enough politically, to try to be slightly independent foreign policy.

    This “slightly independent” has limits – as they are testing with China. This is why I write above the word “slightly independent foreign policy”, not “very independent foreign policy”. I’m not sure it’s difficult to understand this.

    Israel will try to be friendly with China and Russia, as they have slightly independent foreign policy. At the same time, there is constraint of how much America allows this to continue.

    China is more important for Israel, than Russia. But even with China, they can act friendly as much as they can, but if it goes too far (for example, allowing China to build its port), then America protests.

    US presses Israel on China’s Haifa Port investment

    https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-us-presses-israel-on-chinas-haifa-port-investment-1001267903

    Turkey has a similar relation to America – but with Turkey we can see a greater extent of independence now with the S-400 (although Turkey may regret this, if America sanctions them).

    The word “diversity” by now should have a rather negative connotation, including when applied to “opinions”, because there are very many opinions, while actual reality is single. This, plus, I heard Tel-Aviav has a wonderfully vibrant LGBT scene and massive pride parades. I am sure that also adds to “diversity” of opinions and to the esprit de corps’ of Tzahal.

    I’m not sure relevance of LGBT to the discussion – if you a fan LGBT, then Israel will be the most tolerant place for you in the region.

    By diversity here of course, I’m talking about diversity of opinion to Russia. Public opinion to Russia in Israel is very “diverse”. A lot of Ukrainians are also in Israel.

    Житель израильского города Петах-Тиква избил женщину, которую он принял за русскую.

    https://primechaniya.ru/home/news/sentyabr_2017/urozhenec_ukrainy_izbil_v_izraile_zemlyachku-_prinyav_ee_za_russkuyu/

    On the other hand, immortal regiment in all Israelis cities

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  143. ANON[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    A War for Israel-By Jeffrey Blankfort
    Left Curve
    Issue No. 28
    https://ifamericaknew.org/us_ints/warforisrael.html

    Well researched article . Caving comes from the deep corruption.

  144. @A123

    Who cares what I or anybody else thinks. The force overrules that every time. But beware: every time means exactly that, every time. The balance of forces is changing even as we comment here. Israel got softer and less capable to fight real armies and accept that every war takes casualties. IDF is getting most of its practice on unarmed civilians in Gaza. Some Arabs are getting less hapless than they used to be in 1968 and 1973. Hezbollah has already kicked IDF out of Lebanon, where Israel left its former allies to their fate, demonstrating how “profitable” it is to ally yourself with Israel. Syrian army, thanks to the bandits funded, armed, and trained by the US, KSA and Israel, is getting there, too. What’s more, by meddling in Syria, directly and via its “friends” in the US and KSA, Israel made possible Iranian military presence right next to its borders in Syria. Talk of unintended consequences. Persians are no Arabs, they can shoot straight and fight bravely. Yahu believes that the force is always right and by acting on that belief he ensured that all neighbors hate Israel. Thereby he doomed the country he meant to expand. My condolences.

    • Replies: @A123
  145. Lo says:
    @AnonFromTN

    The US public does not support a war. They already used too much credibility for Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and now Syria. Not to mention NK, China, and Venezuela issues. If people asked for it, they would be more than happy to start a war tomorrow. Besides, the US did not win wars since WW2, but neither did its enemies. The US may fail to reach its political goals -assuming government officials are not pure evil nihilists who just want to create havoc- but regardless Iraq, Libya, Vietnam etc. all turned into war zones and lost millions of their people. You could make similar claims before each of the previous wars, the net result is those wars were fought. It is better to convince people that wars do not benefit them anyway. Saying they can’t win wars is daring them, some would support wars just to prove they can because of such arguments.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  146. Lo says:
    @Avery

    Now that’s rich. If Russians have such martial prowess, then why is their country is the one that always gets invaded? Mongols, Crimeans, Poles, Germans, French… Just about everyone around them invaded Russian mainlands, including Moscow. Anyone who is not a Russian nationalist would agree that both Napoleon’s army and Wehrmacht were far superior to Russian armies and that they lost due to overstretching. Weren’t Russians running away from Napoleon and burning their own lands to not leave the French supplies? Similarly, weren’t they considering moving government further East when Wehrmacht coming? No one said Russians lost the war in the end, but its mostly thanks to other factors, the primary quality of Russian soldiers has always been their expendability, not superior fighting skills. When Russian losses outnumber invaders far away from their homelands on Russian turf, it is more than a stretch to claim Russians had crushed the invaders.

  147. “For those who need a reminder of how the West treats its allies”

    Please, do not forget Operation Pike.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pike

  148. Avery says:
    @Lo

    All of these red-herrings you tirelessly list have been addressed in other threads by me and others: no need to repeat them here.

    Russia, unlike say UK or US, has been invaded often because it is a land power, easy to invade. UK and US are hard to invade. Continental European countries invaded each other for centuries.

    Russia has been invaded, and invaded,…and has defeated them all to date.
    And Russia is the largest country in the world, almost twice the size of US: didn’t happen by accident. Russian way of fighting is very different: that’s why (Western) invaders have always been confounded and defeated.

    {Anyone who is not a Russian nationalist}

    I am not Russian: Armenian ancestry. Armenian Apostolic Church Christian.
    If anything, I am an American nationalist.

  149. A123 says:
    @AnonFromTN

    The balance of forces is changing even as we comment here.

    Yes the are….. Israel’s current friends include Russia, China, India, and the U.S.

    The current Muslim occupation of Jewish land is supported by Iran and um….. no one else.

    Hezbollah has already kicked IDF out of Lebanon,

    When Israel left Lebanon they foolishly believed that the UN would enforce the peace after the left.

    Two major changes have taken place since then:
    -1- Everyone realizes that the UN is biased and useless
    -2- Eveyone understands that Iranian al’Hezbollah is an integral part of Iran.

    Israel left its former allies to their fate, demonstrating how “profitable” it is to ally yourself with Israel.

    Iran will be pulling back from foreign involvement in the near future either from sanctions and insolvency or the elimination of sociopath Khameni.

    When that happens the Lebanese people will demonstrate to al’Hezbollah how “profitable” it was to lead Lebanon into becoming a servant of Tehran.

    Yahu believes that the force is always right and by acting on that belief he ensured that all neighbors hate Israel.

    You mean the country that has a peace treaties with Jordan and Egypt.

    You mean the country that is deepening economic arrangements with Egypt via a gas export pipeline.

    While there is no treaty, even Syria maintains a cold peace with Israel thanks to Russia’s involvement on both sides of that line.

    The only neighbor that hates Israel is “Iranian colonial Lebanon”, and they will soon be having a major change in government.

    Thereby he doomed the country he meant to expand. My condolences.

    Netanyahu has saved Israel by making it strong and developing ties with every major military power on the planet.

    I understand that you and Rashid Talib share warm feeling when you think of the holocaust. But my condolences, no dead Jews for you today.

    PEACE

    • Troll: NoseytheDuke
    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  150. @Dmitry

    Some of the newest first-rate equipment that will go to American military like F-35

    You really need to update yourself on F-35 which is an embarrassment without equals in combat aviation. Well, that and F-104 Starfighter, but at least F-104 didn’t cost as much. If F-35 is a “first-rate equipment” then I am Chinese.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @Dmitry
  151. @Lo

    You may be right, but there is no way of testing your hypothesis: in the US “democracy” nobody bothers to ask the people what they think.

  152. @A123

    You mean the country that has a peace treaties with Jordan and Egypt

    I was not talking about governments, tiny elites are always easy to buy. That’s much cheaper that doing something for the countries in question. I was talking about the people. Of course, you are welcome to cling to your delusions. But the reality has a nasty habit of asserting itself.

    • Replies: @A123
  153. Dmitry says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    The point is, it is the same new equipment they will use in the American military.

    So it is first-rate equipment, from the American perspective (i.e. some of the equipment they produce for their own military).

    This is not like T-72M which was given Soviet Union to Iraq. Or how UK gives second-rate equipment to Ukraine. E.g.

    General Sir Richard Dannatt condemns armoured vehicle transfer to Ukraine

    The former head of the British Army has condemned a decision to deliver dozens of redundant British military armoured vehicles to the Ukrainian government as “nothing short of immoral”.

    General Sir Richard Dannatt, who served as Chief of the General Staff between 2006 and 2009, said the Saxon armoured vehicles, which the Ukranian military are planning to convert for use in their fight against Russian-backed separatist forces – are “quite useless”.

    Ukranian sources said that 20 Saxons have been delivered to Ukraine, with another 55 expected to arrive soon.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11412838/Sir-Richard-Dannatt-condemns-armoured-vehicle-transfer-to-Ukraine.html

  154. @Dmitry

    The point is, it is the same new equipment they will use in the American military.

    The point is that military equipment must work first and foremost. The United States knows damn well (Hence refurbishing of F-15 into F-15X among many stop gap measures) that F-35 is expensive (barely) flying POS and is a commercial product first and foremost and it doesn’t work. In the latest news on F-35 it has now limitations on supersonic flight since even in short low-supersonic bursts, this bird gets its stern overheat and melt. So, you are not exactly correct when stating your point, to put it mildly. But if you prefer to use such criteria as “it is the same equipment” as the measure of effectiveness–I don’t think Israeli military mythology, increasingly evaporating as it is doing since 2006, will exist much longer. Then again, what does Ukraine have anything to do with all that–how this third world shithole even factors in here?

  155. @Dmitry

    The US military hardware is no longer good for the purpose. It is only good for boosting contractor’s profits. It was designed exclusively for that.

    F-35 was the biggest flop in the US military hardware. Even late unlamented John McCain acknowledged that
    https://www.cnn.com/2016/04/26/politics/f-35-delay-air-force/index.html

    But it’s not the only flop in recent years. E.g., super-duper destroyer Zumwalt, which cost the US taxpayers more than $4.2 billion, broke down in the Panama canal, of all places. Even Lugenpresse reported this shameful accident:
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/23/us-navys-most-expensive-destroyer-breaks-down-in-panama-canal

    There are many more examples of that. Basically, the whole Pentagon budget (and the rest of military budgets, including DoE, “intelligence”, etc.) is a scam enriching a few fat cats and ripping off the US taxpayers. Compared to the US mega-thieves, Russian mega-thieves are paragons of honesty.

    BTW, Ukraine does not come into this equation at all. Israel is a privileged vassal, UK, France, Germany, and Japan are first-tier vassals, something like Brazil or Poland are second-rate, while Ukraine is third-to-forth rate vassal, at the level of Georgia, way below Sweden or Iceland.

  156. @Lo

    “both Napoleon’s army and Wehrmacht were far superior to Russian armies…” but both
    “… lost due to overstretching”.

    It seems you have selective vision for patterns – those you wish didn’t exist you either
    ignore or ridicule (well, if associating a pattern related to the series of barbaric ethnic
    cleansing in Turkey with what you called “bjs” in a quite recent article can be taken for
    a sense of humor).
    A superior army implies superior commanders and strategists in the first place.
    But, according to you, in both cases they just ignored or underestimated the size of
    Russia’s territory (especially Hitler’s generals who apparently didn’t bother to study
    Napoleon’s experience) before making decision to invade Russia, and then were really
    surprised to find out that “size matters” (speaking in your favorite terms).
    Or may be there was something else unexpected for “just about everyone who invaded
    Russian mainlands” ?
    The statistics screams “YES”, but it only can be heard by those who understand the
    difference between a coin falling on the same side twice and twenty times in a row.

    • Replies: @Lo
  157. @AnonFromTN

    A few sites with the info to back your claim:

    By now, most US media, especially all those faux-military “analysts” are in a full blown damage-control mode, which contrasts, of course, greatly with the matter-of-factly narration of issues with F-35 by such organizations as GAO, and that is what so amusing. It is like: come on people, just admit it–US fvcked up on F-35 royally, at least Boeing has admitted, however late, its FUBAR with B-737 Max. But no, this whitewashing of this F-35 embarrassment continues non-stop for years. Putting lipstick on a pig, as we all know, hardly makes pig more attractive. But behind all this F-35 saga is a steady decline of cognitive faculties within the system which is now completely rigged towards continuous regeneration of a virtual world, with all it entails. Black is white, losing is winning, war is peace, F-35 is a great aircraft, as long as it is portrayed as such… Orwellian reality is upon us.

  158. @Lo

    Educate yourself a bit, listening to the US Army cadre senior officer who teaches in US Army’s General Staff College and is a co-author of several seminal English-language works of WW II and combined arms warfare.

  159. A123 says:
    @AnonFromTN

    I was talking about the people.

    — The people of Iran want Khameni to go.
    — The people of Venezuela want Maduro to go.

    Are you serious about listening to the people?
    Or, is it something you say only when it is convenient?

    I think we all know it’s the latter.

    Of course, you are welcome to cling to your delusions. But the reality has a nasty habit of asserting itself.

    I could dream for 1,000 years and never approach the level of fanatical reality delusion that you have achieved in the briefest fraction of that time. You are indeed among greatest masters of self deception this planet has ever known.

    PEACE

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @ZZZZZZ
  160. @A123

    Why argue? Just go to any Arab country neighboring Israel with an Israeli passport and register with it in any hotel there. Make sure to take someone with you with a passport from a different country, so that this individual can report on your fate.

  161. Lo says:
    @AB_Anonymous

    For your first point, I only ridicule comments when they throw insults or try to get easy points by appealing to the crowd. Like the example you gave, the commenter had no answers for any points I made, instead, he listed a bunch of nations that he claimed were destroyed by Turks, which had nothing to do with the subject. What am I supposed to do then? I either ignore or make fun. Back to the topic, yes, size matters. Then again, geography & climate are already not human factors. Neither Napoleon nor Wehrmacht were crushed by the Russians. They had better generals and better soldiers, they lost because of logistics and even then at a huge cost to Russia. If there was something crushing it was the winter & logistics. Just look at their casualties vs. the casualties of their enemies.

  162. @Lo

    Congratulations! You repeat propaganda very well.

    A few details (not for paid trolls and hopelessly brainwashed, but for the normal readers).

    The case of Napoleon hardly needs elaboration: he made a mistake even a middling general shouldn’t have made. However, his invasion enriched Russian language: the word “shval” (from French “cheval”, meaning “horse”) in Russian means a totally worthless person; the closest equivalent – scum; the word “sharomyzhnik” (from French “cher amie”, dear friend) means a disheveled trump. That’s how his retreating soldiers and horses were perceived by the Russians. His invasion also enriched French – the word “bistro” (with standard French stress on the last syllable) comes from Russian “bistro” (with stress on the first syllable), meaning “quickly”; that’s how Russian Cossacks in Paris demanded to be served food right in the street.

    WWII. As someone in the Russian military said, if Frost were a general in the Soviet army, he would have been shot for treason. When Germans moved towards Moscow, the frost was light, just enough to enable their tanks to move on any terrain, whereas during Russian counter-offensive (the first German retreat in WWII, to be repeated many times in their war with Russia) the weather became bitter cold and several feet of snow fell, so that Russian tanks could not move anywhere except the roads. Not to mention that German attack started on June 22, and several summer weeks later Germans were several months behind their “brilliant” plan Barbarossa. By winter they were up to 6 months behind, and even German generals realized that Barbarossa failed.

    • Replies: @Anounder
  163. @Lo

    “Then again, geography & climate are already not human factors. Neither Napoleon nor Wehrmacht were crushed by the Russians”.

    I can only repeat it again. It’s hard to imagine a superior army if its commanders and strategists don’t give a damn about the geography and climate of the territory they’re going to invade. And there’s nothing implying that Napoleon or Wehrmacht were so stupid – on the contrary – they had the best war machines of their time, and still they both were defeated. Because the battles didn’t go exactly as they’d planned, and not because of unexpected cold weather and/or underestimated size of the land. The human factor stopped them, whether you like it or not. And, yes, the price of that was high, on both sides, and didn’t end with the end of war. Which automatically raises the real question (for WW-I as well) that needs to be answered (for those who don’t know): “Who profited from this all in the end” ?

  164. Lo says:
    @anonymoys

    Russia’s intervention in Syria was authorized by the King of Israel.

    Why?

    I don’t know. My guess is that Russia is doing what she has been told to do.

    Longer the war lasts more they can ethnically cleanse parts of Syria. If no one was involved either the opposition would win or more likely, Assad would end the civil war. Currently, large parts of Syria ethnically cleansed of Arabs and Turcomans. Europe and Turkey are foisted with millions of refugees. It is nation building for the sake of Israel, the cause of Iraq war, Syrian war, creation of ISIS to further terrorize Arabs, Yezidis, and Turcomans and make sure ethnic cleansing works very effectively… It is all about Israel. Currently, only Iran is standing in the way, with Turkey being a distant second obstruction. Without Russia’s involvement, the war would’ve ended fast. If the war ended fast, they wouldn’t be able to do the effective ethnic cleansing they managed to do.

    • Replies: @anonymoys
  165. @Erebus

    Of course they knew nothing would probably happen. Iran is not stupid. Taking down a KC135 is a major step, and a considered step. Not one to be taken lightly. A drone, on the other hand……

  166. anonymoys says:
    @Lo

    Not very convincing.

    You could have had the same results (millions of refugees and ethnic cleansing) if zionists had “done a Libya” in Syria. But they have another objective : permanent wars and instability.

    If you need cold war II -the best business for military media bank complex-, you need Russian intervention. And Russian intervention in other theaters -Ukraine, UK (Skripal case ), USA elections, Venezuela etc… – “proves” that the masters’s objective is to create cold war II. That will scare the people and the useful idiots (experts) always fell for the big lie.

    Most people have a binary vision of the world : good vs bad…
    The soap opera brought to you by the zionists let you choose the good and the bad guy.

    Some fools really believe that Putin is the good guy. They simply can’t see or accept that Putin’s master is Trump’s master.

    Tell me who are your friends are and ….Putin’s best friend is the king of Israel, but that doesn’t bother our “experts” . They still worship their hero.

    • Replies: @Lo
    , @Hillbob
  167. Milton says:

    Putin, like Hitler, has Jewish blood. Hitler ended up becoming Germany’s greatest enemy; German patriots like Rommel only realized the peril when it was too late. Putin is following a similar path. The question now becomes: will the Russian patriots and Kremlin hardliners realize the deception and peril before it is too late, or will Putin complete his mission for Zion unchallenged? A man like Putin who divorces his wife for a younger woman is a sell-out: if you are willing to sell-out your own wife, you are certainly willing to sell-out your country.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  168. @Milton

    Putin, like Hitler, has Jewish blood. Hitler ended up becoming Germany’s greatest enemy; German patriots like Rommel only realized the peril when it was too late. Putin is following a similar path.

    LOL!! I heard many things in “alternative” circles but this one is first.

    • Replies: @Arioch
  169. bluedog says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Hmm he’s trolling you and you are way to smart to permit that>!!!!!

  170. Lo says:
    @anonymoys

    You could have had the same results (millions of refugees and ethnic cleansing) if zionists had “done a Libya” in Syria. But they have another objective : permanent wars and instability.

    Libyan civil war still continues, also there is no goal of establishing a new state in Libya to secure Israel, in Syria and Iraq there is. There isn’t a point in ethnically cleansing Arabs to establish another Arab state. It is very strange that some people will claim to be against Israel and then support Kurds just because Zionist media tells that Kurds are some democratic, likable people who are striving to be future Europeans while in reality, it is just that Israel finds Kurds useful for its security.

  171. antiparos says:
    @Erebus

    There are remote controlled airplanes with some passports on board at least since 2001.

  172. ZZZZZZ says:

    We know that:
    – mossad did 911
    – the hit was used to justify the destruction of seven ME States
    – removing the legal governments (through terrorist proxies)
    – thanks to Russia, Iran, Hezbollah, the government of Syria is still in place
    – the last State to be on the list: Iran
    – Iran will not be destroyed without a cost, an unbearable one when it touches finance and oil.
    Another Vietnam?

  173. ZZZZZZ says:
    @A123

    — The people of Iran want Khameni to go.
    — The people of Venezuela want Maduro to go.

    No, only in your dream.

    The people of the United States want Trump to go.

  174. Hillbob says:
    @anonymoys

    Always some bullshit about General Winter and Colonel Frost.
    Well the vaunted Wehrmacht for all its brilliance in strategy and tactics and masters of modern war , awash in technology , did not know that Russian winters are cold! A fact known by even the Arawaks of the Amazon. Go figure.
    Also, Russia was so poorly led , so poor in equipment, so decimated by Stalin’s purge, so downtrodden, such a peasant economy, barely starting to industrialize ,so demoralized , so demonic, so unprepared, so untermenchen Yet inflicted a horrible hiding on the Nazis., despite their sneak attack ……speaks volume of the Gemans.
    Russia did everything wrong. Except they won the war.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @anonymoys
  175. PeterMX says:
    @AnonFromTN

    It’s only “classical NAZI policies” to dumbed down people brought up on the History Channel (aka the “Hitler Channel”), soap, lampshades and turning brown eyes blue. Jews are very talented writers. They’re quite imaginative.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  176. PeterMX says:
    @PeterMX

    Nuland-Pyatt leaked phone conversation _COMPLETE with SUBTITLES

    Listen to the Jewess’ voice. Is there any doubt as to who is in charge in that conversation? “Yats” just happens to be Jewish too. A blockbuster documentary could be made on how the Jews took over Ukraine for a second time in 100 years, even after murdering 8 million of them. The movie would start with that video. The funny thing is the Ukrainians I talk to are completely in the dark too.

  177. @Hillbob

    Yep. And before that the Russian Empire did everything wrong in 1812. Miraculously, “brave military genius” Napoleon ran away, abandoning his Grande Armée to its miserable fate (~380,000 died in that campaign, and only ~120,000 survived). Then Russian Cossacks were in Paris in 1814.

    Considering that Russian Federation is doing everything wrong again, NATO must be really scared.

  178. @PeterMX

    Sometimes their creativity backfires. Russian bloggers mockingly call Jewish libtards lampshades.

    • Agree: PeterMX
  179. anonymoys says:
    @Hillbob

    “Russia did everything wrong. Except they won the war.”

    As the masters knew all along… Hitler’s bizarre military decisions are prove that Russia “dramatic” victory was never in doubt.

    Now we know who put Hitler into power . By “coincidence” they are same bankers we gave the money for the worst criminals to make the Bolshevik Revolution, a foreign occupation in fact.

    Foreign occupation of Russia that still going on even today. Russia lost its independence in 1917.

    That lots of fools and “experts” still believe that Russia is an independent country, a force for good (against the evil american empire) tells you all you need to know how effective propaganda can be.

    Even very clever people -Paul Craig Roberts seems to be very intelligent (PhD etc…) – fall for the big lie.

    In fact, that isn’t surprising. Intelligent people normally believe in propaganda.

    Mr Unz spent all his life believing all the lies he was told about the empire. Only recently he “woke up” and thanks to that we have now the excellent Pravda Series.

  180. Arioch says:

    > Russia will offer her total support short of any direct military intervention.

    I would add, “as long as the war remains conventional”

    If anti-Iranian axis would go nuclear, then all bets are off.

    Many “military bones” like Martyanov seem to believe in controlled small-scale nuclear operations and controlled medium-scale operation like drowning of American nuclear-powered air carriers. I do not. I think in those cases, especially as USA would be a “partner” in that war, it will almost immediately spiral out of control.

    I do think that if weapon of mass destruction be used or be threatened to use against Iran – Russia can then switch to direct and immediate support.

  181. Arioch says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Let’s notice though, that the structure of “Putin” surname suggests Jewish roots.
    “Suggests” is merely this, of course. Apart from Chernomyrdin, for example, whose father line have very distinctive names.

    Not that I have a problem with Putin possibly being in part Jew. After all the turmoils since 1914 and all through XX century and internationalist policies and propaganda of USSR, I consider quests for pure blood lines in today Russia to be short of idiotic.

    However, the knee-jerk reaction of “No! never! Putin can not be a Jew at all!” kind must be unwise either.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  182. Arioch says:

    > we can immediately conclude that whatever the “scientific research center” was doing …. was not something relevant to the Syrian war effort

    False.

    An easy example – the Syrian original anti-tank missile jammers. Those once famous “bird houses” over tank turrets.

    While we may laugh at them, from the “higher ground” of most sophisticated Russian, Israeli or American designs, for Syrians to *create* a jammer (even a crude and simplistic in our eyes) where they had none before – WAS doing the science.

    ANY Syrian domestically-designed creating or enhancing a weapon – IS the science, applied.

    So surely Syria CAN have military scientific research centers even without having W.M.D. programs.

    That does not prove this specific center was one, of course. But all-encompassing denial of a possibility is equally wrong.

  183. Dmitry says:
    @Arioch

    Jewish connection of Putin is more through his ex wife, who has some Jewish roots.

    Family are also, obviously, friendly with Jewish oligarchs.

    His endocrinologist oldest daughter’s work is funded by Alpha-Group oligarchs team. She is head of Alfa-Endo charity.

    Youngest daughter is head of Innopraktika, which is funded mainly by Sibur.

    In this case, it can be more like a tax on the oligarchs, or alternative, some transfer of wealth between the group (oligarchs to politicians).

    • Replies: @Arioch
  184. Arioch says:
    @Dmitry

    exclusively with Jewish oligarchs or with all oligarchs including Jewish? Sechin, for example?

    from another angle, is he friendly with ALL Jewish oligarchs or with some, while being hostile to some other Jewish oligarchs?

    also there is a blurry line between oligarchs and richmen. Surely many richmen are wannabe oligarchs, like “every soldier should have a marshal wand in his backpack”. But whn should we say the line was crossed?

    AG is large and will remain so, it has connections to many people, starting with Glazyev. Who, in turn, is often touted as “Putin’s economic adviser” no less. So, one more link of Putin’s Jewish subservience, for those who are in quest to collect every such a link

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Dmitry
  185. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    Don’t trust the racist Russians – Putin like Trump is a member of Jewish mafia who does everything to help the mass murderers in occupied land and beyond. RUSSIA IS EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ERECTION OF THE ZIONIST STATE IN OCCUPIED LAND.

    Putin like Britain, US, France and Germany is trying to protect the zionist supremacists in stolen land of Palestine, because erection of zionist state was and is the project of the criminal WEST, where racist Russia is part of it, and Putin like traitor trump, and sex trafficker Billionaire Epstein is a zionist agent.

    A nationalist streak runs through Putin’s love for Jews and Israel. Trump said:

    [ Putin had reached a “really good conclusion” for Israel in regard to the situation in Syria. The Russian leader said he paid “special attention” to the Jewish state during the negotiations. ]

    Don’t trust Russian liars and Putin apologists at this site. Putin is a member of Jewish mafia like traitor Trump
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/a-nationalist-streak-runs-though-putins-love-for-jews-and-israel/

    • Replies: @Arioch
  186. Avery says:
    @Arioch

    {….. is he friendly with ALL Jewish oligarchs or with some, while being hostile to some other Jewish oligarchs?}

    The ones who do not get themselves involved in politics (….or trying to “overthrow” Putin), are left alone, more or less.

    The ones who don’t know their limits, are rudely reminded they are in Russia.
    Khodorkovsky forgot, and spent some time resting & recuperating in sunny Siberia.
    Berezovsky fled to London, beyond the reach of Russian authorities, from where he continued plotting against president Putin. Eventually, he supposedly committed suicide in London: maybe he did, but I am hoping the long arm of the KGB/FSB reached him there, and suicided him. Or maybe his MI5/MI6 employers figured if he is dead, he want spill the beans,so…….they arranged for his premature departure to Hell.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  187. Dmitry says:
    @Arioch

    Sechin, for example?

    Sechin/Chemezov are not “oligarchs”. They are just part of Putin’s original team, or loyalists, which Putin installs to important positions (and they received wealth simply from being in those high positions – e.g. $150 million apartments and yachts).

    You can read old articles of 18 years ago, and discussion of Sechin was not different, although Pugachev has now been eliminated (but in general, the more things change, the more they are the same)
    https://www.mk.ru/editions/daily/article/2001/04/04/110932-sekretnyie-druzya-putina.html

    Personal wealth of Putin’s family, seems mainly to be managed (or funded) by Sibur and Timchenko, however.

    If you look at his youngest daughter’s fund – it is all public sector people (and public money), some loyalists, + Sibur (which is where the main private money must to be involved).

    is he friendly with ALL Jewish oligarchs

    He is friendly with the Jewish community in general. Really, Putin is almost responsible for creating the Jewish community, which revived from almost not existing 20 years ago. For example, you can see in larger cities now they open things like Jewish schools.

    This required funding from oligarchs. But there is also a government effort to overpromote the existence of a Jewish community, despite a lack of demographics for this (declining number of Jews, from an already small population 20 years ago).

    This can be a reflection of Putin’s views (and philosemitism), without need of any conspiracy theories.

    But more self-interestedly, it’s a smaller part of the original Putin’s larger programme to promote religious communities as an extension of state capacity.

    Primarily, Putin’s programme promotes Orthodox Church on a larger scale, without any real demographic basis for it .

    Church attendance peaked in the 1990s, and then fell to a very stable level since the end of the 1990s, which is a little lower than the 1990s levels.

    For example, around 1% (probably depending on how we define “regular”) of people go to church in Russia for a monthly basis. Yet they continue to build more and more churches despite the lack of need for them.

    So Putin’s overall programme for overpromoting such a small Jewish community, can be just viewed as a smaller scale version of his programme for Orthodoxy.

    AG is large and will remain so,

    Alfa-Group oligarchs are not political, and try to stay distance also from the government. However, the fact Putin’s daughter works for their charity – you can see who is proving them a roof is.

    In general, it’s better to hide the oligarchs (or just rich men, as you say), as they annoy the public, even if they are an important part of state capacity.

    In Ukraine, oligarchs (or “rich men”) are like wrestlers, which are directly on stage fighting each other to control the country. But in Russia, they are more like distant characters on Mount Olympus, where nobody knows whether they actually have any influence or not, or at least how much influence they have.

    More extreme example is Belarus, where oligarchs supposedly “do no exist”, or in other words – Lukashenko asks them to not be publicly promoting themselves.

    • Replies: @Arioch
  188. @Avery

    Judging by the readiness and speed Brits declared Berezovsky death “suicide”, British secret services suicided him. Serves him right, anyway. If there is Hell, then he is there, which serves him right, too.

    • Replies: @Arioch
  189. FB says: • Website

    The problem with this article is that the author does a poor job explaining what is really going on with the Israeli airstrikes on Syria…as a result we have comments like this…

    It looks more like Syria and Iran are utterly helpless in the face of Israeli airpower, which means that Russian AA is worthless, either because it’s bad tech, or because Russia controls the use of it to the point where it is useless, or both.

    Nothing could be further from the truth, but the author of this article lacks the air combat credentials to explain the situation…the first thing to note is that Israeli aircraft are not attacking the S300s or S400s…in fact they are not even daring to fly into Syrian airspace…but are launching standoff missiles from inside Lebanese or Israeli airspace…these missiles are targeting not Russian or Syrian air defense systems, but fixed targets like various buildings…which may or may not be of some utility…

    Any professional air combat practitioner will be well versed with the extensive history of attacking aircraft going up air defenses…such an illustrative case is the so-called October War aka Yom Kippur War of 1973…

    One of the theaters of operation was Syria’s Golan Heights…the Israeli air force launched massive air raids to take out Syria’s Soviet supplied air defense systems…things didn’t go so well…on Oct 22 during the final week of the war…top Israeli officials met at The White House with Henry Kissinger…a transcript of that meeting here…

    Major General Binyamin Peled told Kissinger that the IAF had lost over 100 front line fighter aircraft…

    Our major problem until this morning was missiles, especially the SA6…we have lost 32 F4s, 53 A4s, and 11 Mirages, 6 Super Mysteres, for a total of 102 of all kinds.

    Here is the SA6 [known in Soviet terminology as the 2K12 Kub] produced since 1968…its major innovation was mobility, by way of its tracked chassis…but it was a short range system, with an engagement range of only about 20km…and ceiling of about 8,000 meters…

    That it could take down 100 Israeli jets in a matter of days…including 32 McDonnel F4 ‘Phantoms’…then the best US fighter aircraft…tells quite a bit about just how much damage a modern, mobile air defense system can do…F4 ‘Phantom’ shown here…

    The Serbs in 1999 acquitted themselves even better…using the same ancient SA6…a massive Nato force of over 1,000 combat jets was able to take out only THREE Serb SA6 radars…despite firing about 800 state of the art AGM-88 missiles…which home in on air defense radars…

    Adm Leighton Smith, USN, retired, commander of NATO forces in Bosnia from 1994 to 1996, said that the resulting ef­forts to neutralize the Serb IADS were “like digging out potatoes one at a time.”

    For their part, the Serbs inflicted a hugely embarrassing loss of not one but TWO F117 ‘Nighthawk’ stealth aircraft…[one managed to limp back to Aviano, but was written off]…they also shot down the F16 of then Lt Col David Goldfein…now a four star general and USAF chief of staff…

    So the history of air combat…and specifically suppression of enemy air defense [SEAD] teaches us that MOBILITY has been the real game changer…mobile systems starting with the 1960s era SAMs like the SA6 can still survive even a massive onslaught like we saw in Kosovo in 1999…

    The newer generation SAMs like the S300/400 are massively more capable…yet just as good at shooting, scooting and hiding…

    It would be nothing short of suicidal for an Israeli F16 to try to take a shot at an S300…the main reason is the range of the respective missiles…an aircraft can carry an anti-radar missile with a range of maybe 100 km…the S300/400 missiles are deadly out to three or four times that distance…so how does an aircraft penetrate that kill perimeter in order to get off a shot…?

    So what we continue to see is Israel lobbing missiles from outside Syrian airspace as purely a cheeky provocation…and they are not shooting at the S300s, even if they knew where they were…which with a mobile system is impossible to tell…

    So it is wrong to frame this game as Israeli air power versus Russian air defense…that’s not what’s going on…what’s going on is that Israel is trying to provoke at any cost a wider war in Syria…let’s guess what would happen if Syrian S300s shot down a couple of Israeli aircraft…Israel would immediately put together a massive strike force…and they might even get the US to chip in…so much for Trump’s continuing attempts to get out of Syria…plus a war with Israel that Syria doesn’t need…

    Syria needs to liberate Idlib…get the rebellious Kurds back under control…and persuade Turkey to leave…that’s a lot on Syria’s plate right now…it doesn’t need to react to Israeli mosquito pinpricks…

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
  190. Anounder says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Lo’s just some progressive with a lust for the Turks. I assume from some narrative of them as a force for “equality” and “social justice” and “tolerance.” He’d hardly be the first to do so (see the progressive praise of Moorish Spain despite their segregation).

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  191. @Anounder

    That explains why s/he/it is rooting for Nazi Germany. Turkey lost WWII along with it. S/he/it seems to be a bit too smart for a progressive, though, they tend to go into hysterics without even attempting to argue.

  192. @Dmitry

    The UK Telegraph? LOL! In the article, do they provide a picture of the vehicle that the article is about? No, they show pictures of Ukrainian tanks instead. The real story here is not that the General Sir is complaining that the vehicles are “useless” but that the UK is providing any assistance of any kind to Ukraine.

    The Saxon armoured vehicles were deemed worthy enough for the sons of the British people to use not so very long ago but now they are described as useless, that should be the real scandal.

    IIRC it was the use of IEDs in Iraq that proved to be the game-changer that rendered them useless, a crude weapon that shouldn’t have been very difficult for real military minds to anticipate, but I feel that the modern British (and American) Generals are really just stooges marking time until they can retire with their generous pensions and then go on to work for the MIC.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  193. Arioch says:
    @Dmitry

    > Sechin/Chemezov are not “oligarchs”.

    Oh, I see.

    1. Putin is often seen talking peacefully with a richman X
    2. Is X of Jewish origin or of Judaic faith or of Israeli citizenship?
    2.1. If yes, the X is oligarch and Putin is friendly with Jewish oligarchs because he is Jewish lackey.
    2.2. If no, the X is not oligarch but is “Putin’s team”

    This simple and handy method definitely prove Putin’s special relations with Jewish oligarchs 😀
    No exceptions. (c)

    > You can read old articles of 18 years ago

    The Jewish oligarchs of today were next door shoe cleaners 18 years ago? or they were already in “old articles” too?

    > He is friendly with the Jewish community in general

    Is Putin of all communities only friendly with Jewish one?

    МЕОЦ = Moscow Centre of Jewish Common (there are two AFAIR).
    https://mjcc.ru/news/v-hih-veke-derevyannaya-okraina-moskvyi/
    The construction was finished in 2000 when Putin was president. But it started in 1996.

    Granted, in 2006 Jews in Russia had more money than in 2000, and in 2000 they had more money than in 1996. But this was overall trend in Russia, not specific to Jews.

    > government effort to overpromote the existence of a Jewish community

    If there? For example, Khabad movement – meeting with their representatives was “overpromoting” local Jews in Russia? Or was it negotiating with international Jewry?

    > it’s a smaller part of the original Putin’s larger programme to promote religious communities

    IOW is it not Jews- or Judaism-specific.

    > build more and more churches despite the lack of need for them

    Does Russian Orthodox Church think the same, that it needs less churches not more churches?
    Why is it Putin’s programme, and not ROC’s programme?
    Is it new edition of “Stalin personally killed billion of dissidents” meme ?

    > Alfa-Group oligarchs are not political, and try to stay distance also from the government.

    Glaziev not political? LOL.

    > to hide the oligarchs (or just rich men, as you say)

    Those are different notions. While many rich men want to become oligarchs, in their urge to have more of everything, more of money and more of power too, it is not certain they succeed or even if they would try to. Khodorkovsky example, yes.

    > More extreme example is Belarus

    Basically it is the same at least medieval (probably far before middle ages) question, if some jewish family/bank funds (“credits” ) some european king – who is in power, king or bank? Tampliers thought they were in power. French King said they were not. Khodorkovsky & British Petroleum & Yukos vs Putin & Serdyukov & lesser oligarchs was kind of replay of that old story

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  194. Arioch says:
    @anonymous

    When no one else but Time Of Israel boasts how overreaching and powerful Israel is, goyims should all listen and unquestionably believe. Because who else but Times Of Israel can tell goyim what their proper Faith should be. LOL.
    .
    P.S. Berezovski also boasted how he is the most powerful man in Russia. And they DID indeed increase his power. But much less than he was advertising. When Berezovski finally succumbed to his own propaganda and swallowed more than he could chew – he was given a boot and all his overproud boasting did not let him to move back in.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  195. Arioch says:
    @AnonFromTN

    It could even be not some services but other international oligarchs. Though in that dirty water it is hard to draw the lines. Can we say Rotchilds are purely “money” with no quasi-state interests and forces? Can we say CIA and DHS are purely “forces” with no financial interests nowhere?

    At the pinnacle of his might Berezovski was power drunk and was making enemies left and right, considering his influence and money would keep him safe from blowbacks. They did. For a while. But then they waned, and people “having a tooth on him” (this idiom in Russian means different thing than in English) did not went nowhere, they waited for him to become weak enough to return a favor. It could well be that Berezovski broken pots (or outlived usefulness) with MI6 and Her Majesty just withdraw her protection from him. Why taint your own hands when there are plenty of bloodthirsty wolves roaming around waiting for the minute you say “now you may” ?

    Either way I totally agree that few would shed a tear for him.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  196. Arioch says:

    http://www.rosbalt.ru/russia/2019/07/11/1791569.html
    https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/6656983

    Interesting. Russian attorneys again started opening criminal cases against EuroUkrainian army.

    Nuance is, Russian judges claim jurisdiction over
    1. crimes committed inside Russian Federation territory, or
    2. crimes committed against Russian Federation citizens.

    The recent decision to accelerate spreading Russian citizenship in L/DPR opens the second possibility at large.

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  197. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arioch

    You can laugh as much as you want until you drop to the floor.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/the-happy-go-lucky-jewish-group-that-connects-trump-and-putin-215007

    You have been reading Giraldi’s posts and ‘Politico’ articles where talking and revealing the connection between both the Jewish mafia stooges, Trump and Putin , with the Chabad the Jewish mafia whore house, yet you write nonsense while you laugh until you drop dead.

    https://twitter.com/search?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.timesofisrael.com%2Fa-nationalist-streak-runs-though-putins-love-for-jews-and-israel%2F&partner=Firefox&source=desktop-search

  198. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @AghaHussain

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT COMMENT.

    Where are the Putin’s apologists and racist Russians in bed with the criminal Israel, a Zionist entity where Russian along with the criminal west created against the interest of MUSLIMS and Arabs to rob and control them. The criminal West, including Russia, continue their crimes against Muslims by protecting the Zionist project. Shame on you all.

    Israel is the creation of the racist Russia and other racist and supremacists western capitals, including London, Paris, Washington and even the country you call Germany.

    It is surprising that your excellent comment has been ignored because many commentators lack the KNOWLEDGE of the Russian history, Iran and the region to understand the truthfulness of your comment.

  199. @Arioch

    You are right, money and power are joined at the hip. You need to control power to successfully steal public money (like Pentagon contractors) and you need money to buy power (like “donors” of both “parties”). End of story.

  200. Dmitry says:
    @Arioch

    Sechin/Chemezov are not “oligarchs”.

    Oh, I see

    These (Sechin/Chemezov) are government installed managers of state owned conglomerates.

    There is a reason people are (or think they should be) “shook” when they find they have expensive yachts and apartments, and income of $50 million a year.

    This is because it is a state-owned corporation and their appointment is by government decision. They are not “oligarchs”, as they are lifelong servants of the public, with some unfair financial “benefits”.

    , the X is not oligarch but is “Putin’s team”

    What are you talking about? Sechin/Chemezov are Putin’s team, simply. They were originally work colleagues, and then were always his government officials/politicians, which he has now installed as managers of government owned conglomerates.

    Their income is from state-owned corporation and technically they are managing public property.

    Although secretly they have emulated some aspects of an oligarch’s lifestyle (e.g. Sechin buying a yacht for his new model wife who was younger than his daughter), their behaviour and relation to the powers is of a government servant.

    They are obedient servants of Putin, not constantly fighting oligarchs like Potanin or Deripaska, who require some kind of mediation through other oligarchs, and are sometimes rebelling against completely official positions (for example, Deripaska makes his workers protest against sanctions now, even though this is embarrassing for the government position).

    IOW is it not Jews- or Judaism-specific.

    As I write above, this (revival of the Jewish community) is just a small part of a much larger overall programme.

    However, the Jewish one is the most comical overpromotion relative to size, as the Jewish community was more or less nonexistent as a real community 19 years ago, and still small today. And today it is promoted as if it is a nationally important community or religion, including special attention on television and an attempt reprogram old anti-Jewish attitudes in a wider public.

    For Jews, I would say Putin is probably the most pro-Jewish non-Jewish, important world leader in history. However, this sub-programme (to revive a Jewish community) is, however, going to result in nothing – because of low fertility rate of Jews of Russia, low total numbers, almost total intermarriage, and emigration.

    Why is it Putin’s programme, and not ROC’s programme?
    Is it new

    Churches are privately funded, but they almost all require local government approval, and ultimately at the top, it is Putin who you have to appeal to if you want to intervene in the process (which we saw with protest events earlier this year).

    Reconstruction and promotion of the church is, of course, already Yeltsin’s programme originally – but it is intensified by Putin, who realizes its ability to enhance state capacity. On the other hand, in data like church attendance, we see actual public is going to church less in the last 19 years (despite increasing overpromotion). Peak in church attendance was in the early 1990s.

    This reality is discussed by some important members of the church (e.g. on Facebook). But it’s never reported in normal media, so people who do not look at the data think there is increasing religiosity.

    There is also some relation to the construction industry here. For example, there are construction companies building these temples, even in new districts of cities where attendance at Easter services is below 2%, and they can build them in new districts before constructing actual infrastructure residents want or need.

    same at least medieval (probably far before middle ages) question, if some jewish family/bank funds (“credits” ) some european king

    These programmes of Putin, like wanting to recreate lost religious communities, from a secularized public, are unique for the 21st century. (Although probably, they are inconsequential things which will fade like bubbles a few decades after he goes from power.)

    Motivation for this (enhancement of state capacity), is something you can see quite commonly in history, however.

    Ruling through groups of “rich men” (whether Jewish or not) – is also as old as time.

    As for politics in Ukraine, it feels more like something from the dystopian future (e.g. Idiocracy).

  201. Dmitry says:
    @Arioch

    More likely explanation, Berezovsky just killed himself, especially considering his bipolar personality.

    Note he had lost his remaining money six months before after failing in the British court against Abramovich, and he has to pay £100m legal expenses.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19433325

    His family all say he was depressed and suicidal.

  202. Dmitry says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Maybe it would be useful for police work, or in environment without IEDs and anti-tank weaponry widely distributed.

    But there have clearly inadequate protection for serious use in a battlefield where there are RPGs, IEDs and anti-tank missiles.

    What happens if this is attacked with RPG, IED or anti-tank missile, while full of soldiers inside?

  203. I request everyone to read my earlier comment response to Saker’s completely disingenuous crap – his article’s dishonest enough that it literally brings up FAKE criticisms of Russia’s ties with Israel and ‘debunks’ them. Making your own opponent to defeat, I see.

    Anyway here’s another of the many developments/revelations trickling through which vindicate what me and other anti-Putinism folk say:

    ‘These same sources tie Hassan’s resignation to the results of the four-hour negotiations between Israeli officers and Syrian security commanders, mediated by Russia, in late June in Quneitra.

    Also attending the meeting were the leaders of the 5th Assault Corps. The corps was formed in 2016 with the active involvement of Russian military supervisors. It has embraced, among others, ex-rebel groups. The Israeli representatives reportedly demanded that the 5th Corps be integrated into Syrian government forces in order to stabilize the military structures. Israel further requested that pro-Iranian militias be moved farther from the border. The story has it that Hassan not only rejected Israel’s suggestions, which were backed by the Russian commanders, but he walked out of the meeting, calling Iran “the true partner of the Syrians.” The commander’s inability to compromise ultimately caused the negotiations to fail.’

    https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/07/russia-syria-iran-security-apparatus-reform.html?fbclid=IwAR2gxRxd_eDPS-zPA2Ej-nTkX41_-BxeK8eOl7LeiFbLJTOoCU7RxNKaMeU#ixzz5tUPKOesS

  204. @AghaHussain

    # 11

    yes

    is the harsh reality

    so we have two kindergartens: the western kindergarten fed by the MSM and the kindergarten of the Putin fans fed by Saker and Co

    it’s a huge joy to find an intelligent adult in the room, I’m tired of young children

  205. AmRusDebate says: • Website

    FYI:

    This is how the Israeli lobby delivers:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/28/business/russia-markets.html?fbclid=IwAR22Jj5zz3bN30BGMfzoj_h-C7SvpH1r_g0XK7n8f9NgkLNBUstrPnUxVaM

    So you were completely wrong Saker. Russia has “sold out” in that if Israel can deliver, Russia will have met its foreign policy objectives while allowing Israel to meet its own. Syria’s territorial integrity is a figment of the past. Assad can rule over a state that is 40% diminished, that will eventually overthrow his lineage.

  206. Anonymous[258] • Disclaimer says:

    Dear Saker:

    Russia has allowed Israel to bomb Russia’s partner Syria.

    Russia is now assaulting its only Christian partner, Armenia, just because Armenia is trying to partner to some degree with the West for economic reasons.

    Putin is an SOB. He cannot understand the concept of friendship. Putin is all about threats.

    Putin will wind up losing Russia’s friends due to his heavy-handed tactics.

    Please stop being so ridiculously pro-Russian as if Russia can do no wrong.

    • Replies: @Avery
  207. Avery says:
    @Anonymous

    {Russia is now assaulting its only Christian partner, Armenia,…..}

    Russia, quote, ‘assaulting’ Armenia?
    What are you talking about?
    I have heard no such thing, and I keep up with Armenia news pretty closely: maybe you know something I missed.
    Care to elaborate?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  208. @Avery

    Never mind that nitwit. It doesn’t even know that Belarus is Christian.

  209. @Lo

    To some of the other laughable points you make:

    – How do “Russian vast distances” and “General Frost” explain the Russian army destroying the beast on its own territory after the initial invasion had been repelled – in Poland, Germany and in Napoleon’s case also in France itself?

    – “At a vast cost to themselves” – another rendition of the old propaganda trope “the Russians smothered the enemy with the corpses of their own soldiers”. Again, in Napoleon’s case the 500,000 Grand Armee was destroyed almost completely, whereas the Russian Army (which was still largely intact at the end of 1812) had never numbered more than 300,000. In WW2 the military losses of Germany + its allies on the Eastern front were almost as high as the Russian losses (around 7 million). What made the huge difference is the German genocide of 20m civilians and POWs – something that the Russians, to my regret, did not reciprocate.

  210. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    In the latest Hezbollah Secretary General Sayyed Hassan SPEECH, he voiced confidence that the resistance will deal the Zionist entity a terrible defeat in the future war.

    However, this speech also revealed important issues, at least for me, that Putin, the Jewish mafia stooge, is playing a game in Syria against Iran, Syria and Hezbollah to protect the ZIONIST PROJECT, for the criminal West that RUSSIA IS PART OF IT.

    Nasrallah played down Putin’s game in Syria and said: we are working closely with ‘Russian army’, but WE ARE AGAINST ISRAEL REPEATED BOMBING of SYRIA.

    Nasrallah said: The Syrian army COMMANDER is Assad, and Assad determines what the priority of the moment is. Thus fighting AGAINST TERROR GROUPS AND WESTERN ARM GROUPS is the PRIORITY of the moment, where war with Israel is NOT.

    However, he deeply implied his resentment about Russia TO ALLOW ISRAEL bombs of SYRIA, “a Russian ally”. Is Syria an ally or criminal Zionist jews are?
    Nassrullah said: Russia IS NOT ABLE TO PREVENT ISRAEL FROM BOMBING OF SYRIA, where paints Putin as a Zionist puppet to me. He continued: BUT RUSSIA MUST PREVENT ISRAEL FROM FURTHER BOMBING.

    Nasrullah used ‘MUST’ in his speech to warn Russia and Putin, in Persian translation.
    He also had a message for those Zionist stooges who are trying to push Iran, Putin, to leave Syria:

    [Iran will never leave Syria but Hezbollah will reduce forces]

    I also was shocked to read that Zionist Putin has not delivered Assad S-300, in Persian translation, but Putin gave S-400 to imperialist Trojan horse, Turkey, that SHOWS PUTIN IS WORKING CLOSELY WITH Trump and Netanyahu, Zionists and imperialists against others.

    If this is true, then I must say FORCE PUTIN OUT OF SYRIA.
    .
    But ‘Jerusalem post’ translation says ‘when S-300 is operational’, where to me means, s-300 is there but NOT operational. Jpsot write:

    [Nasrallah says the Syrian regime of Bashar Assad has won the war. This victory was achieved with help from Hezbollah, Iran and Russia. “Iran will never leave Syria,” Nasrallah claims. He also says that Israel is lying when it says it is targeting weapons shipped by Iran to Hezbollah via Syria. “I tell them that weapons have arrived and that Israel is deceiving its people.” He also says Israel is involved in a military adventure in Syria. He warned Israel that when the S-300 air defense system is operational, then Israel will be “playing on the edge of the fire.”]

    Does anyone know, for sure, that Putin delivered S-300 to Assad?

    Don’t trust Putin’s apologists.

  211. and as expected the Saker after explaining why Putin has allowed more than 200 bombings in Syria and tolerated the death of Russian military because of the israeli trickery … now publishes an article on gastronomy … in black and white, so that the children of his daycare understand it more easily

    LGTB Propaganda, Putin fans, the Angloimperial MSM … and … the harsh Reality

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