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First things first: let get the obvious out of the way

Homosexuality is a phenomenon which has probably always existed and which has often polarized society into two camps: those who believe that there is something inherently bad/wrong/pathological/abnormal with homosexuality (probably most/all major religions) and those who emphatically disagree. This is normal. After all, the issue of homosexuality deals not only with sex as such, but also with societal norms, reproduction, children and family issues and, most importantly, with love. What could be more mysterious, more fascinating and more controversial than love?

I am beginning this article with these self-evident truisms not because I find them particularly interesting, but because we live in a weird time when only one of these two views gets objectively and calmly discussed, while the other point of view is immediately censored, denounced and condemned as some kind of phobia. Now, the word “phobia” can mean one of two things: aversion/hatred or fear/anxiety.

Does this make sense to you?

Why is it that an opinion, a point of view, can only be explained away and dismissed as being in itself pathological/irrational?

Let me ask you this: can you imagine that somebody might be critical of homosexuality as such (or of homosexual behavior/practices) without suffering from any kind of phobias or without hating anybody?

If not, please stop reading and turn the TV back on.

For everybody else, I submit that this phobia-canard (along with the no less stupid “closet homosexual in denial” label) is not conducive to an intelligent discussion. It is, however, great to shut down any critical analyses and “ad homineming” anybody who dares to ask the wrong questions.

Next, I also submit that there are those existing out there who do indeed feel an aversion/hatred/fear/anxiety towards homosexuals. These are the folks who feel their masculinity tremendously boosted when they get the chance to beat up (preferably in a group against one), humiliate or otherwise assault a homosexual. In my (admittedly entirely subjective) experience these are a minority. True, some homosexuals do elicit a strong sense of disgust from male heterosexuals, but these are typically those homosexuals who, far from being sequestered in some societal “closet” do the opposite: they ostentatiously flaunt their homosexuality with provocative make-up, dress or behavior. Again, in my (no less subjective) experience, these are also a minority among homosexuals. I think that there is a very natural explanation for the aversion these “in your face” homosexuals trigger in male heteros, and I will discuss it later below.

But for the time being, I would rather stay away from these circumstance-specific minority phenomena.

Next, let’s define the issue

In its entry for “homosexuality” Wikipedia writesThe longstanding consensus of the behavioral and social sciences and the health and mental health professions is that homosexuality per se is a normal and positive variation of human sexual orientation, and therefore not a mental disorder”.

This sentence deserves to be parsed very carefully, especially since it uses a lot of frankly vague terms.

For starters, what does “longstanding consensus” refer to? In 1973 the US American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality from the DSM-II. The US American Psychological Association followed suit in 1975. This leads me to conclude that by “longstanding” Wikipedia means either 46 years or 44 years. In terms of human history, 44/46 years is close to instantaneous and hardly “longstanding”. There is also the issue of HOW and WHY these two associations decided to “de-pathologize” homosexuality. I will touch upon that later, and for the time being I will simply state that declaring a pathology that is henceforth to be considered as “normal” by means of a vote is hardly scientific.

Next, the statement above begs the question of what “homosexuality per se” is (as opposed to homosexuality “not per se” I suppose?). The intent here is clear: to decree that whatever co-morbidity (depression, suicide, substance abuse, violence, etc.) can be identified in homosexuality will always get explained away because it is not inherent to homosexuality per se. This is just another crude word-trick to suppress any discussion of homosexuality in the real world (as opposed to DSM-like manuals).

Then there is the notion of “normal and positive variation of human sexual orientation” which, of course, begs the question of what would qualify as an “abnormal and negative variation of human sexuality”. And to those who would say that I am being silly here, I would point out that while in the 1970s the issue was “just” homosexuality, we nowadays live in the society of LGBTQIAPK and that some even add an ominous + sign at the end of this abbreviation (LGBTQIAPK +) just to be truly and totally “inclusive”. And here is the obvious fallacy: since homosexuality is a “normal and positive variation of human sexual orientation” then it must also be true for the entire LGBTQIAPK+ “constellation”. I submit that unless your IQ is way below room temperature you surely must realize that what we are dealing with here is a free for all in which any variation of human sexuality is declared “normal and positive”. QED (technically, this would be a syllogisic fallacy).

By the way – do you ever wonder what that small “+” sign at the end of LGBTQIAPK + really stands for? The answer depends on who you ask, of course, but if you ask Facebook in the UK, it’s no less that 71 (SEVENY ONE!!) genders (not sure if FB believes that UK users need more options than non-UK users…?). Turns out that this one small “+” is much bigger than the rest official acronym 🙂 And, just for giggles, here is what the full acronym (the original 10 plus the new 71 should look something like this:

AAAAAABBCCCCCCCCCCFFFFFFGGGGGGGHIIIIIKLMMMMMMMNNNOPPPQTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTW+ (yes, I still added the obligatory “+” at the end so as to be truly “inclusive” should this list grow in the future (which, no doubt, it will!).

And anybody not buying into that fallacy is, again by definition, a “hater” and, as you well know, “haters will hate,” right? And if not a hater, then at the very least a repressed closet homosexual.

So far, how do you like that intellectual environment?

I sure don’t. In fact, I loathe it, primarily because it is freedom-crushing.

ORDER IT NOW

So I will proceed to discuss this topic with no regard whatsoever for the politically correct doxa that seems to have take over the entire western world. If you think that this makes me a “hater” (or a homosexual in deep denial) you can stop reading here, since everything below could be summarized by the one word “crimethink”, which would make me a thought-criminal.

Every since I began blogging, about a decade ago, I have really pissed off a lot of people who accused me of an endless list of ideological “crimes” ranging from being a Communist, to being an anti-Semite, a Jew (or Jew-lover), a Muslim, a Nazi, a CIA/MI6/Mossad agent, a Putin agent, an FSB agent (they meant SVR, but they don’t know any better) and even (my favorite!) a “traitor to the White Race”. Frankly, my most persistent detractors have been Papists and Nazis primarily because I had the nerve to tell them that neither the Papacy nor Nazism has any traction in Russia and that Russia will never somehow step in to boost their declining popularity or influence. The truth is that Russia has exactly zero use for anything even remotely resembling the Alt-Right or any other racist theories (nevermind the Papacy and its terminal degeneracy – whether of the ultramontanist or the sedevencantist persuasion). The Zionists also tried to “counsel” me to change my use of the expression “AngloZionist” but they pretty rapidly gave up. As did the Papists. The Nazis complained and moaned about my anti-Nazism (I was “unfair” to Hitler and his supposedly immensely kind and Russia-loving goons!), but they eventually also gave up. The French philosopher Alain Soral once stated that (in France) the Homo Lobby is even more powerful in France than the Israel Lobby. I suspect that this is even more true in the United States and I am under no illusions about the kind of reactions my article will elicit. That’s fine. I really don’t care anymore.

The truth is that as long as we continue to use terms imposed upon us by the dictatorship of political correctness and as long as we leave the numerous assumptions of the LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby unchallenged, we will either die of boredom or, at least, never understand why the society we live in (or why it is collapsing).

So let’s engage in some much needed crimethink!

First, let’s toss out all the stupid and ambiguous terms and expressions imposed upon us by the leaders of the Empire. For example, we could agree to ditch the value-loaded term “gay” and replace it by a value-free term “homosexual” (well, since homosexual is value-free, homosexual activists have declared it “offensive and they demand that only “gay” be used, thus imposing a value-loaded term in lieu of the correct scientific designation). And if the LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby excoriates us for doing so, we could always declare that from now on, “gays” shall only be called “sads” (primarily on account of all the pathology and dysfunction which typically come along with homosexuality: most psychologists and psychiatrists are quite aware of that comorbidity, but speaking about it would be a career-ending mistake for them). In fact, let’s try a little thought experiment.

Let’s imagine that we organize a public debate, a town hall meeting if you want, on the topic of homosexuality. And for that purpose, we establish the following rules:

1) Homosexuals are only to be referred to as “sads”

2) Those refusing to use that term will be immediately labeled “heterophobes” and “closet heteros in deep denial”.

How many people do you think would accept that?

How would you feel if you were told that you need to comply with such outrageous demands?

Well, then why would anybody expect us to accept the very same nonsense, only in reverse?!

And yet, in 99.9999% of cases in the western media and public discourse these ideological shackles are present and hardly anybody dares to use a different terminology.

The parallels between how the Israel Lobby carefully crafted the public discourse on Zionism and Israel and how the LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby succeeded in shaping the public discourse on homosexuality is striking and not at all coincidental: for a host of reasons these two lobbies strongly support each other and learn from each other.

Do you think that this “just happened”, and that this new politically correct terminology reflects some growing understanding and awareness of the issue at hand by the general public?

Think again.

Turns out, there is a conspiracy behind this, literally. See for yourself :

This video is 44 minutes long and I highly recommend that you watch it in full for two crucial reasons:

  • It will give you a detailed analysis of how the LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby conspired to use its influence to shape the public perceptions of homosexuality in the West
  • It will give you a good insight into the Russian objections to the ideology and methods of the LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby

Finally, I will assume that those reading further will have seen and understood the information contained in this video and that this information forms an integral part of our discussion.

Next, debunking one of the silliest arguments used by the LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby

I was born that way!

How many times have you heard this totally meaningless argument?

And, just for comparison’s sake,

How many times have you heard this meaningless argument debunked?

(My guess? Roughly 1000:0 – right?)

Like most LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby canards, this one is based on a misleading assumption that whatever you are born with is “natural” and even “good”. The problem with that is that this same argument can be made for every mental disease and even any criminal impulse. And without going into an endless battle of numbers, I think that we can agree that if somewhere around 1.2%-2.2% of humans might be born homosexuals and if sociopaths are 3%-5% of the population, then sociopathy is about as “natural” as homosexuality. In fact, we could even declare that sociopathy is a “ normal and positive variation of personality”. Would you want to live in a society which would proclaim that?

For Christians: this argument is even more ridiculous when coming from people trying to impersonate Christians (say, like these folks). The truth is that Patristic dogmatic theology is very clear on the dogma that the Fall of Man has not only corrupted the original God-given and perfect nature of Man, but it has really corrupted all of creation: “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned” Rom 5:12. The problem is that Augustine of Hippo diverged from the consensus patrum on this issue and offered instead his own, misguided, interpretation of the dogma of the Original Sin. Later Anslem of Canterbury and, even more so, Thomas Aquinas further hopelessly corrupted the dogma of Original Sin and, as a result, in the West the original Patristic understanding of that dogma has been lost (generally, scholasticism has been the poison which killed western Christianity and turned it into the abomination we all see today). Due to a lack of space, I cannot offer a full discussion of this dogma here, but I will point you to this excellent article on this topic (or, even better, the original writings of Saint Maximos the Confessor and Saint Gregory Palamas). The point here is that Christianity unambiguously teaches that every single human being (including Christ Himself!) as born not with the personal guilt for the sin of Adam and Eve, but with the consequences of their sin: a pathological, spiritual, psychological and even physical nature, in which pathology and even death are always present and weighing down each and every human being, not only homosexuals. From a truly Christian point of view the notion that what we are born with is axiomatically declared as good and natural is sheer folly. If anything, the assumption is that the opposite is true or, more accurately, that the only way for a human being to recover his/her true, perfect, original nature is to reunite with the Church of God and God Himself in a process known as “theosis” (for a superb discussion of this term, please see here), which begins with the process of repentance and renunciation self-will. The so-called “Christians” in the West seemed to have completely blocked out the following words of Saint Paul “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind” (1 Cor 6:9). Either that, or they subscribe to the absolutely self-evidently stupid notion that Christ Himself was some kind of well-meaning hippie while the evil homophobe and hater Saint “Paul” (sic. these folks never call saints “Saint”) perverted Christ’s original message and created some kind of “Pauline religion” instead. The facts that 1) Saint Paul was originally a vicious a persecutor of Christians and that 2) Saint Paul was surrounded by people who personally knew Christ (including the 12 and the 70) and His teachings does not lead these simple-minded people to realize that these Christians who personally knew Christ. These Christians would never let a former persecutor of Christians modify Christ’s teachings. If Saint Paul had tried to introduce any heresy, he would have been immediately condemned like all the other heretics over the centuries. Sadly, we live not in a Christian society anymore, but a post-and-pseudo-Christian one in which even the fundamentals of Christianity have been forgotten, perverted or both.

The argument that “I was born that way” is both infinitely self-serving and infinitely dishonest. But it also is a powerful illustration of how the LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby not only seeks acceptance, but also that “regular” homosexuality is used as a kind of “gateway mental disorder” which is used to force a much longer list of sexual deviations (“paraphilias”) upon the western societies very much including pedophilia (by means of hebephilia and ephebophilia). It does not have to be, but that is how the LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby uses that argument, so it is legit to point that use out and debunk it too (and this is what freaks like this one will use to demand acceptance, endorsement and even special protection!).

Next, debunking the canard that homosexuality and pedophilia are totally different phenomena

That is another deceptive core-argument of the LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby. I won’t go into a long historical discussion of how the term “pederast” and “pederasty” have been universally used in the past. I will just point out that the first link above says that “pederast” is “a man who desires or engages in sexual activity with a boy” whereas the second one defines “pederasty” as “sexual relations between two males, especially when one of them is a minor” (emphasis added by me, VS)! See how “fuzzy” all this rapidly becomes? Not convinced, then just add ephebophilia, hebephilia and pedophilia to the mix and see the inextricable mess you end up with!

I am lucky to speak 6 languages and understand another 3 pretty well and I can attest that in many other languages the politically incorrect word for the root for pedophile and homosexual are one and the same (ex: Russian: педераст, пидарас, пидор; French: pédale, pédé ), which makes sense since the Greek word paiderastes means, literally, lover of boys.

Now, I am not, repeat, not saying that all homosexuals are also pedophiles. What I am saying is that, contrary to LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby propaganda, the boundary between these two categories is fuzzy and ambiguous and that it most definitely is nowhere nearly as clear-cut as the LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby propaganda claims it to be.

Now having debunked a few (not all!) LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby canards, let’s try to look at what is really happening here.

The truth? We are being brainwashed

Shocked by my use of the term “brainwashed”? Fine. Use “conditioned”, or “trained” or whatever term you prefer as long as it reflects the following: there is an organized, well-financed and powerful effort made to convince you of a number of (highly controversial and dubious) things. That is not some invention of mine, and if the video I posted above was not enough to convince you, why don’t you make a quick visit to this website, a typical LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby propaganda outlet https://www.glaad.org and click on “About”. There you will read for yourself that the purpose of this organization is to be “Leading the conversation. Shaping the media narrative. Changing the culture. That’s GLAAD at work”. Of course, GLAAD is just one star in a much bigger galaxy and we can see that galaxy at work literally everywhere. Here are just one excellent example from Google:

If Google selling phones or pushing the agenda?
If Google selling phones or pushing the agenda?

Now, if that is the new consensus in the West and if folks here like that, I personally have no objection to this whatsoever. To each his own. But when that ideology is not only shoved on the Russian people but also used in political campaigns to discredit Russia, then I have a problem with that: not only do I object to this specific case of ideological brainwashing, I object to the very notion that folks in the West have some kind of right to impose their so-called “values” on other people. As far as I am concerned, the various advocates of gender-fluidity are welcome to add “Z” (for zoophilia) or “C” (for coprophagia) to their favorite acronym, but they are not welcome to impose it on others or demand that the rest of the planet endorse it as a “normal and positive variation” of human sexuality or gastronomy.

Another example of corporate sponsorship of homopropaganda
Another example of corporate sponsorship of homopropaganda

And, finally, western politicians are all trying to outcompete each other as enthusiastic supporters of homosexuality. This is just one example amongst many more:

At the very least, I find the Russian reaction to that kind of brainwashing rather refreshing, see for yourself:

Translation: Ladies in the EU, the USA and Russia
Translation: Ladies in the EU, the USA and Russia

I also get some solace that there are still folks in the West who do understand that this propaganda campaign is part of a real “war on men” which has been waged for many decades already. Here is the example of a lady who makes minced meat of all the “transgender madness”:

And then there is Paul Craig Roberts, truly a fearless man who calls it as he sees it.

In fact, I would wager that most people in the West at least feel that something here really stinks, but that most keep their peace lest they be accused of some kind of homophobia or, more accurately, some kind of “LGBTQIAPK+phobia”.

By the way, there is also a lot of money to be made in transgenderism. Jennifer Bilek’s research has found that:

“Exceedingly rich, white men with enormous cultural influence are funding the transgender lobby and various transgender organizations. These include but are not limited to Jennifer Pritzker (a male who identifies as transgender); George Soros; Martine Rothblatt (a male who identifies as transgender and transhumanist); Tim Gill (a gay man); Drummond Pike; Warren and Peter Buffett; Jon Stryker (a gay man); Mark Bonham (a gay man); and Ric Weiland (a deceased gay man whose philanthropy is still LGBT-oriented). Most of these billionaires fund the transgender lobby and organizations through their own organizations, including corporations”.

She also points out that the kind of sums involved in the homosexuality/transgenderism propaganda are huge:

These men and others, including pharmaceutical companies and the U.S. government, are sending millions of dollars to LGBT causes. Overall reported global spending on LGBT is now estimated at $424 million. From 2003-2013, reported funding for transgender issues increased more than eightfold, growing at threefold the increase of LGBTQ funding overall, which quadrupled from 2003 to 2012. This huge spike in funding happened at the same time transgenderism began gaining traction in American culture.

I can’t vouch for her figures, but I think that it is obvious beyond reasonable doubt that the LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby has immense sums of money to push its agenda. I know for a fact that many (all?) US embassies abroad are delivering funds to promote “gay rights” in many (most?) countries of our poor planet.

This is, by the way, exactly the same case in Europe: being mentally handicapped is the new “cool” apparently…

And when the AngloZionists had the nerve to accuse Russia of doping her athletes, the Russian blogosphere immediately reacted with this kind of demotivator (I translated the text)
And when the AngloZionists had the nerve to accuse Russia of doping her athletes, the Russian blogosphere immediately reacted with this kind of demotivator (I translated the text)

Russian men (and Russian women!!) don’t want to have anything to do with that toxic ideology, and this is why the most used informal term for “heterosexual” in Russia is “натурал”, meaning “natural” in opposition to the concepts of “гeй” (gay) – politically correct term – or any of the less politically correct terms used in Russia for homosexuals.

For a typical Russian reaction to the LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby propaganda, I would refer you to Ruslan Ostashko (for a typically Chechen one, see what Ramzan Kadyrov has to say).

In contrast, in the Euro-compatible & Nazi-occupied Ukraine the reality is, obviously, very different:

I feel sorry for the poor Euro-Ukrs…

So what is really going on in Russia? Ain’t there Gulags for gays?! Don’t the Chechens torture gays?

Actually – no.

Debunking the LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby lies about Russia

To say that homosexuals are persecuted by the state in Russia is a lie which any (honest) person who has ever been to Russia can debunk. However, what is true is that the Russian state and a majority of the Russian people do not accept the notion that homosexuality “is just like” heterosexual love. You might vehemently disagree with this idea, but do you agree that the Russian state and a majority of the Russian people are under no obligation to agree with your values any more than you are under any obligation to agree with their values? Next, the Russian state and a majority of the Russian people also believe that children need to have two, gender-differentiated, parents: one mother and one father. Again, you might vehemently disagree with this idea, but do you agree that the Russian state and a majority of the Russian people are under not under any obligation to agree with your values, any more than you are under any obligation to agree with their values? Finally, the Russian state and a majority of Russians believe that Russian children should not be exposed to any propaganda of homosexuality. Yet again, you might vehemently disagree with this idea, but do you agree that the Russian state and a majority of the Russian people are under no obligation to agree with your values any more than you are under any obligation to agree with their values?

Russian parenting summarized in one picture
Russian parenting summarized in one picture

Whatever may be the case, the laws in Russia currently support this majority Russian point of view. Hence, homosexual propaganda directed at minors is illegal and homosexual couples are not free to adopt children. And, last but certainly not least, the so-called “gay pride parade” have been banned in many Russian cities, including for the next 100 years in Moscow – something I enthusiastically support for reasons I outlined in this article.

But for the rest – Russia does not have US-style sodomy laws. Russia does not tell anybody what they can/cannot or should/should not do in the privacy of their bedrooms and, in fact, homosexuals have their own clubs, bars, websites, organizations, magazines and pretty much everything else all Russians (whether “natural” or not) enjoy.

Here is what is really going on here: militant homosexuals are far from being content with “inclusion” “non-discrimination” or any other laudable things they claim to stand for. No, what they want is a two-step sequence:

  1. Declare as axiomatic and self-evident that homosexuality “is just like” heterosexuality and then
  2. Declare that homosexuality is now therefore an accepted norm
ORDER IT NOW

It’s that simple, yet that important: Russia categorically refuses to place an “equal” sign between the concepts of homosexuality and heterosexuality. In fact, the Russian culture (secular, Orthodox or Islamic) likes to stress and emphasize the differences between genders and places a premium on masculinity in men and femininity in women. In other words, Russians reject not only Neanderthal-like macho men, but also what is known as “soy boys” in the West. Likewise, Russians reject men-hating feminists as much as they reject brainless bimbos à la cheerleaders. If I was really cruel I would suggest that you compare (looks and brains!) the Russian spokeswomen to their White House or Foggy Bottom counterparts: this really says it all.

There is something else which I mentioned above which I want to rapidly touch upon: male hostility towards homosexuals.

Setting aside the kind of degenerate thugs who feel the need to beat on somebody weaker then them, I do believe that homosexuality as a concept and homosexual sex as an activity is naturally repulsive to many, possibly most, men. I don’t mean to say that most men are degenerate thugs who will beat up anybody weaker they find, but I did observe all my life that most men seem to have at least some degree of repulsion towards homosexuality. I could go on and just claim that these men “can’t help it” and that they were “born that way”, but that would be too easy. I will attempt an explanation for this instead.

I believe that repulsion towards homosexuality is a normal and positive variation of the healthy male psyche developed to strengthen the reproductive potential of any population. Yup, it is not popular to say so, and homosexuals go to great lengths to obfuscate that (by means of adoption and propaganda, mostly) but homosexuality is totally sterile. Thus there must be a powerful natural selective pressure not only for men not to engage in homosexual behavior, but also for men to instinctively realize that “something is very not right” with homosexuality. This instinctive feeling should not be used as a justification for violence (any more than sexual attraction cannot justify rape, or irritation justify murder), but it does explain the prevalence of heterosexual repulsion for all things “homo” (at least in males; many/most females also seem to be repulsed by (male and female) homosexuality, but the feeling seems to be less strong than in men and it does no lead to aggression).

The real question is what do we do with this kind of repulsion?

The answer depends on your culture, religion and worldview.

Even in the post-Christian West, most people know the saying “love the sinner, hate the sin” or some variation thereof. This point of view has a very solid scriptural basis. This approach, by the way, makes sense whether homosexuality has its roots in nature or in nurture. In fact, from a strictly Christian point of view, homosexual behavior is no worse than any kind of sexual immorality. This makes sense as the word “sin” originally means “missing the target” or, more loosely, “failing to achieve your full potential.” There have been attempts in history to classify and order sins according to their severity. This, again, is a typically scholastic attitude. The Fathers, in contrast, sought to develop a complete dogmatic anthropology which truly understands the struggles of each human being to achieve his/her full potential (theosis) and warns about the consequences of failing to do so. Thus “sinning” is not pissing-off some bearded old guy sitting on a cloud surrounded by harp-playing overweight angels, but the failure to realize your full potential. In such a context, “hating the sinner” makes no sense at all while “hating the sin” is quite logical. Especially since the Fathers believed that the One Church of Christ is a “hospital for sinners” in which all sinners are welcome and where they get the spiritual medicine needed to achieve their full potential as human beings.

From a secular point of view, there are really only three options which I have outlined in the past:

  1. declare that only one specific form of sexuality is “normal”
  2. arbitrarily discriminate between various forms of sexuality with no logical basis for it.
  3. declare that any form of sexuality is “normal”

Most developed countries have opted for the second option, making a completely arbitrary, illogical and absurd list of “normal” and “not pathological” sexual behaviors. By the way, the same dumb approach was used in dealing with sexual practices between consenting adults (the so-called “sodomy laws“) or the codification of a legal age of sexual consent. Even a cursory look at these laws clearly shows that they are based on nothing except political expediency: they make absolutely no logical sense whatsoever.

Most religions and traditional societies have opted for option #1. Modern secularists initially leaned towards #2 but they are now gradually caving to the LGBTQIAPK+lobby’s pressure to accept #3.

Conclusion: this discussion is far from being over, and it won’t be suppressed either

As I said at the very beginning, the topic of homosexuality is a controversial one. It is also fascinating on many levels (biological, psychological, ethical, moral, religious, medical, societal, etc.). The main religions have, over the centuries, developed their “answer” to this phenomenon, but most of our planet nowadays lives in a secular, sometimes even atheistic, environment in which religions have lost much of their traction, especially in societies which were corrupted by centuries of western imperialism (made worse by the bizarre phobia – yes phobia – the Latin Christians have for everything and anything sexual – hence their effeminate looking and smoothly shaven priests, wearing lace (at least the “traditionalists”!), singing with an effeminate voice and thinking that this represents some true Christian tradition!). You want to see what the original Christians looked like? Look at any traditional Orthodox icon and you will see for yourself. Or visit a true Orthodox monastery. You will immediately see the difference, I promise!

For most people – religious or not – this topic ought to remain one which can be freely discussed in an intellectual and ideological environment which does not immediately place the label of “hater” on every person daring to dissent from the officially imposed dogma. Real scientific research (as opposed to ideological votes by professional associations) ought to be encouraged and regularly reviewed.

In political terms, the topic of homosexuality is just one amongst many others which have been given a One And Only Officially Politically Correct narrative by the AngloZionist leaders of the Empire. Other such officially “dogmatized” narratives include the truth about 9/11, the truth about the so-called “Holocaust”, the truth about Zionism and Israel or the truth about Latin Christianity (there are many more, of course). These are all topics in which dissent is totally taboo and dissidents dismissed along with any or all of their arguments.

If we really want to stand for freedom in its most fundamental essence, we cannot accept to be herded into the intellectual cages of the “authorized” political discourse. All the lobbies which ceaselessly endeavor to silence dissent and impose their views and agenda upon us ought to be clearly identified and denounced as a danger for all of humanity. I see no reason to make an exception for the

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lobby, regardless of how many letters will be added to this acronym in the future.

 
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  1. Rational says:

    WHENEVER YOU SEE EVIL, DEPRAVITY OR SICKNESS, LOOK FOR THE JUDAIST BEHIND IT.

    Thanks, Sir. You make good points. I want to add/stress 3 points:

    Phobia, by definition, is an IRRATIONAL fear of something that is not a fear by the general public. Simple dislike (say, I don’t like mushrooms or homos) is not a phobia. Fear of standing on tracks with the train coming on is not a phobia—it is a RATIONAL fear.

    Secondly, in medicine including psychiatry, normalcy is defined as average +/- one standard deviation. For example, what is the normal value of serum sodium? So if majority of people are heterosexual (or have sodium between 130-150), then homosexuality, and trans, etc. (or sodium 150), are all, BY DEFINITION, PATHOLOGICAL.

    So, yes, these conmen are lying.

    The Judaists are behind this depravity, to brainwash the public, to destroy families, to warp their sexual mores. This is a part of their WAR ON CIVILIZATION. These people are barbarians.

  2. peterAUS says:

    It’s really simple: if a human can accept that heterosexuality is equal to homosexuality, which goes against the very foundation of life, he/she can accept anything else.
    Bye bye ability for critical thought.
    A perfect serf, I mean, citizen.

    • Replies: @Russ
  3. “Sexual liberation is a form of political control.” – E. Michael Jones

    • Replies: @sally
  4. ‘…For example, we could agree to ditch the value-loaded term “gay” and replace it by a value-free term “homosexual”

    The difficulty here, as you note, is that it’s all already blossomed far beyond the compass of mere homosexualty and now incorporates whatever all those letters in ‘LGBTQIAPK+’ stand for.

    So we need a more inclusive term. ‘Pervert’ would seem to meet the case. After all, the acts in question most certainly are perverted. Evolution didn’t have any of those activities in mind when it came up with sexual desire. If it couldn’t at least apparently produce offspring, it’s not what was intended — is, in a word, perverted.

    No offense. Be perverted if you want. Just don’t ask me to applaud.

    • Agree: Charles_Martel
    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
    , @Arioch
    , @MBlanc46
  5. Renoman says:

    Sticking your dick in shit is not normal! Most people have no problem with Homosexuals but Fags are a different matter. Mind your own business, no flags no parades and get your sexuality off your forehead!

  6. Carlos675 says:

    Brain / genetic research has shifted gears in recent years. Millions now flow into these areas for dementia and other mental conditions, with new revelations about us nearly every month from multiple research points around the globe.

    Could be just a few years until the science behind sexuality is revealed

    Maybe even a simple “gay cure”?

    What will the gay lobby do then? How many 16 year olds will want to grow up with the stress of being “different”?

    How will the gay lobby react to a so callef “gay cure”? Will it try to have it banned?

    Doesnt freedom to choose work both ways?

  7. I am so BORED hearing about LBQ… whatever. There are such bigger fish to fry.
    I’m all for tolerance if they will just shut-up & stop playing the victim….& humbuging us into ceding even more political power.
    If a culture, such as Russia’s doesn’t want gay-shit rammed down their throat in never ending gay public performances, then they should just accept it OR move.
    There’s a difference between tolerance & equality & a blank cheque to shove your political points down everyone’s throats in the knowledge that you have weaseled yourself beyond any valid criticism.

    • Replies: @Anounder
  8. When any supposed scientific/professional body bases a claim on ‘consensus’, then you KNOW that this body is fraudulent and is just espousing an OPINION based on no empirical evidence. These scientists/professionals are BS artists with PhD’s.
    Don’t listen to a word they say.

  9. When you’re right, you’re right.

  10. JackOH says:

    The Saker, thanks.

    I’ve already mentioned the lesbian prof who went to bat for her sick lover’s “domestic partners’” health benefits, and it turned out all of two additional coverable persons, .o67% of the total of all group health insurance enrollees, were added. The campus gay lobby was about the same time touting the 10% figure, which I think came from Kinsey, but has long been debunked. The provost was too weak to cork this nonsense.

    (The culprit that permitted “domestic partners’” insurance is in the very nature of America’s group health insurance. Statistically trivial sub-populations–gays, Martians, and what-not—may be added, but not a worker’s parents or brothers and sisters. Group health is a serious mischief-maker.)

    The campus LGBTQ+ and women’s centers seem to me pretty dubious. I’m not sure what they do, and a part of me thinks they operate as recruitment depots for predatory gay and lesbian profs. Plus, they’re intellectually dubious. I doubt the operators of these organizations think much about folks who are heterosexual but who remain virginal or celibate for long periods.

    As with other “permitted” identity groups, the gays are given a very long leash, and lifting them up has allowed our masters a new tool to work their divide-and-conquer boogie-woogie.

  11. Virgile says:

    A parenthesis: Do you really think that Russian men do not practice or fantasize about practicing anal sex or blowjobs, the ‘dirty’ acts that homosexual are accused of practicing? That is naive…

    Yes, heterosexuality has been accepted as ‘normal’ simply because a heterosexual act produces children and build a society while non-heterosexuals are sterile.

    Is sexuality in human only limited to procreation? We all know that is not true, otherwise heterosexual couples would have hundreds of children! it is obvious that all forms of sexuality should be allowed as long as it is CONSENSUAL. Therefore pedophilia etc.. are NOT allowed in a society that rejects violence and promote the respect of the person.

    Western societies have ostracized and persecuted consensual homosexuals for so long in the name of religion that it is blowing back in excessive forms by they trying to force new norms, some absurds, on the society.
    In my opinion the excessive ostentation of non-heterosexuals in public life do not have a positive effect. While women are largely more accepting of homosexuality and do not feel threatened by it, most heterosexual men are ‘conservative’ and live all their lives frustrated from their sexual fantasies. Therefore the exhibition of the sexual freedom of non-heterosexuals can be traumatic and provoke envy, hatred and violence.
    The western society is now regulated by the ‘controversial’ politically correctness. The non-heterosexuals are taking advantage of that to take a revenge and affirm their rights .. but this is going too far.

  12. Saker got called out for cucking on race (Jews are not a race!) and for being soft on the muzzle question (my Muslim neighbors were nice, therefore Islam is good for Europe!) and he’s never been able to live it down.

    Literally every single article he writes now mentions those evil Whites who dared question Saker’s ravings.

    The Boomer cries out as he strikes you!

    • Replies: @anonymous
  13. The alphabet people have the right to have sex with whomever they want so long as it is mutually consented to by adults. However, the alphabet people have NO right whatsoever to tell everyone else what their opinions must be about such sexual activities. That is the dividing line between homosexuals and their rights and the rights of others. The alphabeters refuse to understand this.

    The irrefutable fact is that the human rectum is designed as a check valve i.e. a one way valve for outflow not inflow. Therefore using it outside of its designed operation is not normal nor natural. Calling that which is not normal “not normal” is perfectly reasonable while claiming something obviously not normal to be normal is the sign of a demented mind.

    I raise a glass to the Saker for having the courage to present this column. He is in the alphabets’ cross hairs now.

    • Replies: @Virgile
  14. Markster says:

    Homosexuality and Lesbianism and all other forms of LGBTQ with or without other alphabetical appendages (no pun intended) is ABNORMAL. It goes against nature. Without man and woman or male and female in the animal and plant kingdom there would be no life on earth. the human species would not exist and this planet would be a barren rock. Where men are concerned the anus was designed for another function and not for sexual penetration. Why would anyone want to enter a sewer ? These people are perverts. It makes me want to vomit when I see politicians sucking up to these creatures for a vote.

    I really dont care what they do in private. They can get it on all they want. I find it irritating though that they push it down other people’s throats especially the youth and young children. What I find dangerous is that the more we tolerate this degeneracy more and more varied degeneracy is foisted upon us. And yet, the more they force others to accept their twisted personalities and preferences the more revolted we become and the more repulsive they are.

    In this journey through the gutter we are not creating a society of men capable of standing up to life”s hard knocks but a race of pansies, fruitcakes and sissies who collapse at the slightest setback. I observe this on a daily basis all around me every day of the week. On the other hand we have the girls who want to be the dominant “male” in their girlie relationships. They pump up but look like grotesque freaks. How many men want a she man with 28 inch biceps who can bench press 400 pounds and who looks and acts like an ape just out of the Congo ?

    The next step in this descent into filth is sex with animals and how much further we will descend into this cesspool of perversion will be a product of the human imagination which knows no bounds

    As for the Williams girl, I have to say I do like her but then again as a boy I always enjoyed trips to the zoo and the monkeys and gorillas were always my special cages !

  15. Virgile says:
    @heisendude

    “the human rectum is designed…” Yet it is scientifically accepted that the rectum is a highly erotogen zone on the human body as it is full of ending nerves. Why was it “designed” like that? Why do men have tits that have obvious no usage? Was the clitoris “designed” for any other purpose than to give pleasure. Is circumcision ‘normal’ if the penis was ‘designed’ with skin covering it?
    Man on earth essentially exploits, tames nature and most of the time works against it to fit his needs and pleasure. The original design becomes lost on the way…
    In any case sodomy is not the exclusivity of homosexuals, it is practiced by many
    ‘liberated’ heterosexuals. I doubt they are concerned by the ‘design’

  16. peterAUS says:
    @Markster

    It goes against nature. Without man and woman or male and female in the animal and plant kingdom there would be no life on earth. the human species would not exist and this planet would be a barren rock.

    In this journey through the gutter we are not creating a society of men capable of standing up to life”s hard knocks but a race of pansies, fruitcakes and sissies who collapse at the slightest setback.

    Actually, the objective is to create a society of men incapable of challenging the social pyramid as planned for them.
    Such serfs don’t do “pitchfork” thing.

    No need to mince words here. “They” know exactly what they are doing. EXACTLY.
    Emasculating a White man.

    THAT is the game.

    This “sex thing” is just a part of the play.

    And….hahaha….a lot of White men buy it all. No “Wilson treatment” required. Just a smartphone and social media do the trick.
    So much for White supremacy, a?

    • Replies: @animalogic
  17. Wow. Repress much?

    Meanwhile, in Russia:

    Russian sisters who stabbed, bludgeoned father to death after years of sexual and physical abuse charged with murder

    Outrage as Russian teen sisters charged with father’s murder after domestic abuse

    I took a tour through the “Vineyard” and a few similar sites (e.g. Fort Russ) and saw nary a word about this, even though the case is apparently a sensation in Russia:

    “The case of the Khachaturyan sisters has stirred the Russian public, with over 200,000 people signing an online petition urging the prosecutors to drop the murder charges.”

    I wonder if their reticence to link to this story has anything to do with information like this:

    “Pressured by conservative family groups, President Vladimir Putin in 2017 signed a law decriminalizing some forms of domestic violence, which has no fixed definition in the Russian legislation. Police routinely turn a blind eye to cases of domestic abuse, while preventive measures, such as restraining orders, are either lacking or not in wide use.”

    I wonder if The Saker et al., who are so alarmed by the antics of what they acknowledge to be a tiny minority of the U.S. and European population, could bring themselves to comment on this case, and what it means for Russian prospects of social development (now that suicide by vodka is alleged to be solely an American phenomenon).

    It would mean taking a short break from trashing “the west” and braying over its immanent collapse. It also would mean real research, of the statistical variety so beloved by readers of this site. Does a young Russian female have a greater or lesser chance of being “turned lesbian” by media-enhanced peer pressure than she does of winding up in the ER with Daddy’s love marks?

    It never gets old being lectured by your social and cultural superiors. Until, of course, some truth leaks out, such as the above; truth that suggests that either Russia is still in the process of social collapse or perhaps has always been the social and cultural avatar of Mississippi.

  18. @Virgile

    Western societies have ostracized and persecuted consensual homosexuals for so long in the name of religion…

    I take it that you are okay with non-Western societies “ostracizing” and “persecuting” consensual homosexuals, whether in the name of religion or not.

    While women are largely more accepting of homosexuality and do not feel threatened by it,

    Until the barrage of the last 25 years or so, women were largely more accepting of homosexuals than men, and men were more accepting of Lesbianism than women. However, women were as, or more, averse to Lesbianism than men were of homosexuals.

    At the end of the day, it all comes down to Anita Bryant’s 1972 warning: “They want to recruit your children and teach them the virtues of becoming a homosexual.”

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
  19. DeNovo says:

    Good article however the analysis did not go far enough. The force behind all this brainwashing is the Devil himself. How so? God is “the way, the truth and the life” his principal enemy is the exact opposite: “no right or wrong way, lies and death”.
    So now think about everything lgbtetc – every single thing that can be associated with them can be reduced to “there is no right and wrong” generating, propagating and celebrating lies and everything they do leads to death and illness (individual death or death of the human race)… Everyone who does not see that is willfully blind… All of us will be forced to join one of those two armies and I would rather have God on my side…

    • Agree: brandybranch
  20. Now, the word “phobia” can mean one of two things: aversion/hatred or fear/anxiety.

    I hate to quibble, but phobia is more than aversion or fear. It is an irrational fear that causes anxiety. It is never hate. People who are afraid of height suffer from acrophobia. People that feint or vomit at the sight of blood suffer from hemophobia.
    I don’t like eating tripe or brains, it doesn’t mean I hate them or have an irrational fear of them. Disapproval of homosexuality does not equate to hate or a phobia.

    Phobia, just as gay was, is a word that has been hi-jacked and weaponized. Unfortunately. there are many others.

    • Agree: turtle
  21. @Virgile

    ‘A parenthesis: Do you really think that Russian men do not practice or fantasize about practicing anal sex or blowjobs, the ‘dirty’ acts that homosexual are accused of practicing? That is naive…’

    ? I would assume they don’t. Why would they?

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  22. HEREDOT says:

    thanks saker great article

  23. Mario964 says:

    Homosexuality Cultural Conquest comes in 5 stages:

    1. TOLERANCE: it means the right to be left alone.
    2. ACCEPTANCE: it means equal status.
    3. CELEBRATION: it means that everyone must accept homosexuality and promote it as a good valuable thing.
    4. FORCED PARTECIPATION: it means that everyone must participate in homosexuality culture.
    5. PUNISHMENT: it means that everyone who disagrees must be punished.

    And Satan emboldened can then tell God: “You wanted me to submit to man and now look at what he’s doing, offering me the sacrificial gift that I cherish above everything else: his children’s body and soul”.

    Does anybody like having his children being taught in primary school that being a sodomite is all right and normal?

    LIFE SITE:
    German Government Publication Promotes Incestuous Pedophilia as Healthy Sex Ed
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/german-government-publication-promotes-incestuous-pedophilia-as-healthy-sex

    BREITBART: “Record Number of Children Claiming to Be Wrong Gender, Charity Says.”
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/13/record-number-children-claiming-wrong-gender-charity-says/

    BREITBART: “Number of Swedish Children Wanting to Change Gender Doubling Each Year”
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/03/15/swedish-children-gender-double-year/

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    , @animalogic
  24. Jhawk says:

    Saker nails it…and so do a couple of the commenters…

  25. @Carlos675

    Doesnt freedom to choose work both ways?

    Obviously not, if you’re looking at the debate around gay conversion therapy. It’s okay for a woman to abort her baby moment before giving birth, but not okay for an adult to choose to enter a program which they believe will be beneficial to their mental health.

    Clown World.

    But remember: God said he would spare Sodom and Gomorrah if even 10 good people could be found in the city. We still have some good people around, so cheer up. Not total destruction, yet. Never give up.

    I even believe that the public opinion is now shifting against the queers, especially as the country gets browner LOL. These homos are going to get the brown, diverse country they want, but it ain’t gonna be a brown, diverse, homo country where everyone is transgender and they have unlimited access to negro cocks.

  26. @Virgile

    most heterosexual men are ‘conservative’ and live all their lives frustrated from their sexual fantasies.

    Yes, men are horny. Guess what the best way to have alot of sex is?

    Get married.

    Being le Alpha Chad Slayer only works if you’re in the top 1% of guys. Men are having less sex than ever (on average) despite the feminist “liberation”.

    It’s in the Bible. Sex is for one man and one woman in a marriage, and they should do it often. The Bible has been right for millenia and will always be right as long as humans are around, regardless of how “advanced” some lunatics think we are at this random point in time.

    • Agree: Rogue
    • Replies: @anonymous
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  28. JackOH says:

    The Saker goes with a roughly 1%-2% figure for born homosexuals, which sounds a bit high. I’ll guess some genetic disturbance, intrauterine chemistry gone bad, and, I think one guy has speculated on a virus of some sort as the origin. I’ve read some sketch statistics that homosexual marriages amount to .34% of all marriages. The gay lobby in my opinion is among the most high-maintenance of political lobbies with respect to the numbers of people actually involved. The gays deserve a fair shake, but their scandalizing tactics have given them more than that in my opinion, plus a dubious victim card to boot.

    What are conservative-traditional types to do? Incentivize heterosexual expression and marriage through outright bonuses upon marriage, and monthly payments thereafter, with additional bonuses for each child. That might be one way of countering the ill effects of capitalism, which retards earning capacity until after college, and feminism.

    • Replies: @Logan Longshanks
  29. AWM says:

    Everyone should read:

    http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/medical-consequences-of-what-homosexuals-do/

    “Homosexuals are sexually troubled people engaging in dangerous activities. Because we care about them and those tempted to join them, it is important that we neither encourage nor legitimize such a destructive lifestyle.”

    • Agree: Rabbitnexus
  30. Markster says:
    @Virgile

    What you say is utter claptrap. So we can assume that whether you are a homo or liberated hetero YOU like big meat in the back door ?? What a sleazy scum pervert you are hiding behind a load of bubble head babble !

  31. @Virgile

    So because you like something in your arse, you assume everyone does? Pretending it is science is total crap. I do not like anything in my arse, therefore any science which says I should is bullshit, indeed GAY shit.

    Sorry mate but objectively speaking you are a POOFTER who likes stuff shoved in your butt, and whether or not it seems right to you, most of the rest of your species do not feel the same. You can make up whatever crap you like to try and justify your beliefs but if you persist then some of us will respond by calling you names. Such as faggot, poofter or gaylord. NO boy your perversion is not natural, how can it be since no baby can be born out of a man’s arse? Are you a SEAHORSE to disagree?

    PS: The fact that some natural people might enjoy some sort of anal stimulation, does NOT justify you being a fag. What we natural BREEDING couples do has frankly NOTHING to do with faggots. Simply NONE of ypour pervert business!

    PPS: Take your assumed accusations of anti-faggotry (by any stupid name) and shove them where your gay partner’s knob is expected to be! I do not owe any fags anything.

    PPPS: Eat a bag of dicks.

    • Replies: @Jester
  32. @Mario964

    1. TOLERANCE: it means the right to be left alone.
    2. ACCEPTANCE: it means equal status.
    3. CELEBRATION: it means that everyone must accept homosexuality and promote it as a good valuable thing.
    4. FORCED PARTICIPATION: it means that everyone must participate in homosexuality culture.
    5. PUNISHMENT: it means that everyone who disagrees must be punished.

    I think step 5 should be restated as step 1.a., 2.a, 3.a.,4.a.

    Punishment of those who disobey is part of the toolkit of every cult.

    • Replies: @Drapetomaniac
  33. @Sterling Archer

    This has relevance to politics does it? Sorry but last I looked Saker wrote about politics not sociology.

    You hasbarat scumbags really are cheap wastrels aren’t you? Who would waste money on your useless hides?

  34. @Colin Wright

    Agreed, Colin.

    His strange assumption about Russian men, or men generally, says more about him than anyone else.

    Another note: the other guy puts the word “dirty” in quotation marks to undermine that view without actually providing argument or evidence to the contrary. Anal sex, straight or homosexual, is dirty without quote marks, because it is an objective proven medical fact that putting one’s penis into feces is inherently unclean, physically risky, and increases disease. Same from the perspective of the passive partner, plus anal fissures and other serious problems that prove beyond cavil that nature did not intend the anus to be thus used. Even if we didn’t think there was a God, science and medicine show us what it is naturally conducive to human life, health, and flourishing, both for the individual human organism and for human groups, and what is not.

    Lastly, the Saker is right that we should stop using the perverts’ propaganda terms like “gay.” Simply say homosexual, which is objective, accurate, and not emotional or manipulative. It makes even some of the people at our church uncomfortable, it seems. People don’t realize how much we concede the whole issue when we use the pervert activists’ terms.

  35. The Reconversion of Russia from Communist Atheism to Orthodox Christianity

  36. AmRusDebate says: • Website

    AMEN.

    Brilliant piece Saker.

    Brainwashing.

    In a nutshell.

    Aside from the less than 4% who are born this way, the majority of contemporary Alphabet People (98%?) are brainwashed wankers.

    We must all refuse to call a thing which cuts off its weenie a “she” .

    Refuse. Refuse. Refuse. This is the resistance. It’s where it starts and where it ends.

  37. You say that homosexuals are not “born that way”, and you also state that the great majority of men find disgusting what homosexuals do. It’s obvious that no born-straight male can be persuaded or forced to engage in sex with another man. So males who do are “born that way”, there is no other explanation.

    • Replies: @tomgreg
    , @Patricus
    , @Truth
    , @Russ
  38. JackOH says:

    Lavender mafias are a threat to workplace norms of decency, and politically emboldened homosexuals are likely to cause a mess of trouble now and in the future. Sexualized behavior, straight-bashing, sexual propositioning, etc. They can use the victim card when their flaming gets out of hand, and use threats of sexual harassment complaints against straight guys to cock-block. Fucking awful way to undermine and demoralize traditional values and workplace values.

    That’s why I think it’s important to at least think about “re-normalizing” heterosexual behavior by, for example, subsidies for marriage and child-bearing.

  39. tomgreg says:
    @Fool's Paradise

    He didn’t say homosexuals are not “born that way”. He said that if homosexuals are “born that way” doesn’t imply that homosexuality and heterosexuality need enjoy equivalent societal acceptance.

    • Replies: @Fool's Paradise
  40. @tomgreg

    Thanks for correcting me. You’re right, but he did say that the argument that “I was born that way” is “infinitely dishonest”, because it claims to be “natural”, and therefore “good”, and I’m guilty of reading too quickly and jumping to my conclusion. Although it is contra naturam, not what Nature intended, those born exceptions are “natural” in that they can’t help it, but it is not “good”. There have always been “queers” as we called them when I was growing up, but they kept quiet, kept to themselves, and were not in our faces every day as they are now, with “gay pride” parades, etc.

  41. State Antichrist would rule the natural mind
    By assigning meanings and stripping others,
    To make us conform to the consensus fraud.

    Antichrist’s Lover–the church–would take our soul,
    Rewriting the past and faith to mean nothing,
    Wed us to sin, and declare that man is God.

  42. @JackOH

    What are conservative-traditional types to do? Incentivize heterosexual expression and marriage through outright bonuses upon marriage, and monthly payments thereafter, with additional bonuses for each child.

    Get serious. What next? Subsidize every heterosexual affair (“heterosexual expression”)? Every post-bar-closing one-off, as long as it’s a man and a woman?

    Yes, I’m for society encouraging heterosexual (and for that matter, same-race) norms. But paying people to observe them is not the way … it would just create a sexual welfare state. Not to mention that governments at every level can’t balance a budget. How would your scheme be financed? Through Hetero Bonds? Raising your taxes to cover marriage and baby bonuses?

    Please.

    • Replies: @JackOH
    , @Tomorrow We Live
  43. @Markster

    it seems all of you should have stayed in the zoo..how come they let you out once they had you all inside?

    I am sure they have cages in there for white Neanderthal racists as well.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Jester
  44. Serena Williams is big, 5 feet eleven inches tall. that photo emphasizes her muscles but she is all female and heterosexual. I see no reason to compare Sharapova and Williams….I never did. I perved on both.

    Sharapova and Williams are two different examples of the human females from different environments and biological backgrounds. what the hell is there to compare particularly with negatives in mind..one is better than the other..more beautiful etc. who the hell says so..god?

    I like Sharapova and I am sure she functions well in her social environment, and lives a good life. so does Williams in hers..both capable people who have carved out exceptional places in the global life. what the hell is there to compare particularly with negative principles in mind

    Go-rillas and racists belong in the same cages at the zoo

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @annamaria
  45. Paul C. says:

    The Williams sisters are actually the Williams brothers. Their bone structure matches a man. Likely had hormone therapy. There have been many trans in Women’s tennis.

    • Replies: @Truth
  46. There is no united LGBT lobby. That’s a myth the left liberal media is trying to push. In reality it’s a messy and unstable alliance of gay and trans white male libertarians, progressive lesbians and gender queer activists, and black and brown faux progressives whose ultimate loyalty is to their race. The rise of nationalist/populist politics and intersectionality activism will tear it apart.

  47. Your string does not completely display in my web browser so I decided to cut and paste its enormity in case anybody wants to look at the whole thing:

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    Does anybody else find it really odd Jordan Peterson is world famous and as near as I can tell his sole claim to the fame is he refused to participate in the hassle of memorizing his students custom preferred pronouns? His fifteen minutes of fame has got to pass by any minute now. If he was a rational thinker he could have trained himself in less than a day to simply use all proper names and delete all pronouns from his everyday speech.

  48. “The truth? We are being brainwashed”

    Speak for yourself. Laughing.

    And anyone aware of what actually went down in 1973 at the APA Conference gets it. We are not dealing with science here, but something else entirely.

    • Replies: @Anounder
  49. Miggle says:

    Saker, thanks for the gaiety of your article. I might mention the Binary site.

    The power of the alphabetic lobby is staggering. Staggering!

    What happened to common sense? Not permitted?

    There is obviously something pathological/abnormal about homosexuality. But that does not mean bad/wrong unless they attempt to infect others with their pathology and focus on the very young, years pre-pubescent, because they are so easily indoctrinated, always believe what the big people say. That is bad/wrong, very bad/wrong. And, if they encourage surgery to make it irreversible: death penalty, nothing else.

    As for the Papacy, its final degeneracy was complete when they dug up Wycliffe’s bones and burnt them to ashes and threw the ashes into the river to render God powerless the resurrect Wycliffe’s body: no body, no resurrection of the body. You abdicated to me, God. Only I and my subordinates can forgive sins, and for a fee. Get fucked, God.

    • Replies: @RI
  50. Serena Williams looks like Mike Tyson. And I don’t mean the skin color, I mean the muscles. Awful!

  51. Compliments for a piece of impeccable, clear reasoning. Good to know you are also making fun of the letter soup madness currently being enforced on us by the lobby. Still haven’t figured out if those lobbyists are evil or just incredibly stupid. Sorry, perhaps I should say: ethically challenged or mentally challenged.

  52. Miggle says:
    @Rational

    The Judaists are behind this depravity

    I’ve been wondering about that, wondering where the immensely, stupendously powerful homosexual lobby sprang from.

    But is there any evidence of it?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Russ
  53. Anonymous[673] • Disclaimer says:

    – Homosexuality isn’t even the worst of it anymore. It’s the trans lobby. And the attempt to indoctrinate children in that ideology.

    – Why more people don’t speak out against all this insanity is quite confusing. You can’t tell me 50 and 70 year old have suddenly had a generational change of heart.

    – “Normal” and “abnormal” have moral connotation. And many times, it is appropriate.

    But from a more neutral point, LGBTQ can be judged based on “useful” and “not useful” in regards to society and social progress.

    Is homosexuality useful? In certain limited situations and times it might be.

    Today, maybe it’s a useful instrument to accelerate collapse.

    • Replies: @SBaker
    , @Russ
    , @O rly
  54. Joe Biden is even dumber than I thought.

    • Agree: RVBlake
  55. Serena is sure a great Tennis player. Not sure if the article was implying she was a trans person, but she is not. Some women are just more masculine looking just like some men are more feminine looking.

    • Replies: @Anon
  56. tl; dr

    I would have read this, but, by God…. this is a mammoth article. Saker needs to work on his brevity skills.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  57. Maxi says:

    When did the repression of homosexuality by the state start in the first place? Could it be, the same forces where behind it, with drive the agenda today? This is what has to be considered. Everything is spoiled in this world, love of course too. Without the repression, there would be no leverage today, to drive things into extreme. Imagine a society, with natural families, raising their children, at home, in small communities! Instantly, the problem of child molestation fades, because there is less room for it, children are protected by the social fabric, they are not in institutions like school. In everyday life things are and where always pretty normal. Some 0X% of people being homosexual has not caused extinction of the human race, and no propaganda will rise the quote. When considering homosexuality, please don’t look at debauchery. This can be done with heterosexuality too, but nobody judges it by looking at a brothel.
    The transgender topic seems insane, as long as the occult roots are not known, it is about merging the opposites, for empowerment. These people know, but do not tell the background in public.

    • Replies: @Russ
  58. Antares says:

    What I found particularly interesting in the article is how a program of a few can indeed change the society and the way of thinking and acting in general. It also has all the earmarks of zionist propaganda.

    Personally I don’t mind whether homosexuality is born, natural, normal or whatever. Actually I find the religious arguments pretty boring.

    What really matters is to understand how people can be influenced and brainwashed merely by watching tv or reading newspapers and magazines. I don’t see any improvement in going back to the religions. Instead, we should go ahead and learn critical thinking and make sure that no one can play games with us.

  59. Malla says:
    @Markster

    First mix races, then mix genders then mix humans and animals then mix biological beings and machines.
    Everything is reversed in Joo world, reversal of Logos as E Micheal Jones has put it. Ugly is beautiful, beautiful is Ugly; Gender is a choice; Blacks are smarter than Whites; Race is a Social construct; barbaric thuggish behaviour is more noble than Civilised behaviour….. Only in Joo world.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @Jester
  60. JackOH says:
    @Logan Longshanks

    Sexual welfare state? You’ve probably noticed some of the griping on this site is about the sexual welfare state that already exists that subsidizes the poor and presumptively “dysgenic”. We’re already subsidizing the progeny, many of them, of those “post-bar-closing one-offs”.

    I agree that subsidies for anything are usually bad, but I’m willing to listen to other ideas that stand a chance in the political marketplace.

  61. Malla says:

    There are these theories floating around that the William Sisters are trannies. How true this is? I do not know, I have doubts. But it is worth a look, very interesting.

    The poster named ‘Truth’ has been writing about this phenomenon on Unz.

  62. Deschutes says:

    The Saker is full of shit regarding the LGBT issue. This entire article is full of shit. He is especially full of shit regarding gay pride parades: if a gay pride parade is banned, that is discrimination and that is what they’ve done in Moscow and countless other Russian cities: banned gay pride parades. That is insecure, stupid, and most discriminatory and smacks of ignorant sexual insecurities. I am totally against the American ‘war on Russia cold war pt 2’ we’ve endured since 2014. But there is no question that Russia is culturally backwards especially regarding gay rights. There is no excuse for banning a gay pride parade.

    Yes, this entire article is a steaming pile of homophobic bullshit. Russia sucks ass bigtime because they can’t handle a gay pride parade once a year going through their mainstreet.

    If you don’t agree with me, you can go fuck yourself.

    • Troll: bluedog
  63. The muscular black man on the left, looks a bit effeminate.

  64. Medvedev says:

    Number of Swedish Children Wanting to Change Gender Doubling Each Year
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2017/03/15/swedish-children-gender-double-year/

    Resources that could have been used to promote large, healthy and happy families among native Swedes, just like Israel does with supporting Haredim, are used to cut penises and carve out vaginas of Swedish children. The most horrific part, Swedish authorities aren’t worried about the rise of ‘transgenderism’ or fall of fertility rates since 2009. No, they’re worried that they can’t mutilate reproductive organs of confused children fast enough. How progressive!
    You truly don’t need to conquer the nation. Just plant the seeds of ‘progressivism’ and it will destroy the country from inside.

  65. Deschutes says:
    @AmRusDebate

    You suck because you can’t live and let live. If someone is transsexual, transgendered etc so what? They simply want to be left alone, they are not bothering anybody. It is sexually intolerant, insecure assholes like you who are the problem, not TS/TGs.

  66. @Virgile

    You are quite right in principle — it is entirely distorting to suggest that living organisms are “designed”. All life is an evolutionary adaption to environment. If a “Designer” should exist, even a designer with a “plan”, it still operates through evolutionary adaption (but not necessarily through random mutation)

    • Replies: @Anounder
  67. @peterAUS

    Interesting perspective. To what degree are homosexuals likely to resist/attack our corrupt States, & the filthy elites that animate these States?
    Or in short — have they a Class
    consciousness ?

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Anounder
  68. @Mario964

    Thank you very much for your “five stages”. Very useful. (incidentally, anything beyond (2) is totally unacceptable in a democracy.)

  69. Hellene says:

    Sounds like you are surrounded by phobophobes…

  70. Deschutes says:

    The Saker, from his Moscow bans gay pride parade article-

    Right. Brilliant. So “same-sex sexual and romantic attractions, feelings and behavior are normal and positive variations of human sexuality”. And yet pedophilia is still considered a psychiatric disorder (source). What about incest? Well, guess what? Psychiatry puts incest next to paraphilia, i.e. pathologic sexual activities which is a group name for every sexual activity that is considered unnatural in psychology and sexology. Apart from incest, paraphilia also includes paedophilia, sadism, masochism, sexual fetishism, exhibitionism, voyeurism, necrophilia, nymphomania… (source).
    And how does one distinguish between “normal and positive variations of human sexuality” and paraphilia? Since up until 1974 homosexuality was considered a paraphilia, why were no arguments presented to remove it from this category?
    This is all utter nonsense, of course. There are only three possible solutions to this conundrum:
    a) declare that only one specific form of sexuality is “normal”
    b) declare that any form of sexuality is “normal”
    c) arbitrarily discriminate between various forms of sexuality with no logical basis for it.

    So for the Saker his main argument is this: because over 40 years ago, the APA categorized homosexuality as a type of paraphilia, and ONLY because of pressure from the “gay lobby” was it overturned. Problem is, if you bother to look up the history of the decision, you find the opposite to be the case, that in fact the so-called ‘science’ which classified being gay as a mental disorder back in the 30s/40s/50s was fraught with religious and cultural bias, to wit-

    The best day of the 20th century for every lesbian and gay man in America was December 15, 1973: the day the board of the American Psychiatric Association voted 13-0 to remove homosexuality from its official list of psychiatric disorders.

    It was the front page story in The New York Times (and almost every other major newspaper) at the time, and it remains the most important victory of the modern gay rights movement, which was then slightly more than four years old.

    The triumph was a tribute to the diligence, intelligence, and furious determination of Frank Kameny, a cofounder with Jack Nichols of the Washington, D.C., branch of the Mattachine Society and one of the most important gay leaders of all time. More than a decade before the APA acted, Kameny identified homosexuality’s classification as a mental illness as the major stumbling block for gay rights because “an attribution of mental illness in our culture is devastating.”

    When Kameny studied the psychiatric literature, he was “appalled.” He told me that everything he found there was “sloppy, slovenly, slipshod, sleazy science–social and cultural and the theological value judgments, cloaked and camouflaged in the language of science, without the substance of science. There was just nothing there…. It was garbage in, garbage out.”

    In short, after centuries of religious persecution, gay people had suffered throughout the 20th century from outrageous medical malpractice: the psychiatric notion that the only healthy gay person was the one who wanted to be straight.

    In 1970, Kameny convinced the Gay Activists Alliance to join him in his campaign to overturn the APA’s policy, and only three years later they were successful.

    For gay people who came of age after the 1970s, it is almost impossible to imagine what it had been like to live in an era when every official body (as well as most liberal lobbying groups, including the American Civil Liberties Union) classified your orientation as an illness or a crime.

    So the Saker’s arguments don’t stand up to scrutiny. His quotes in the Moscow article are cherry-picked from a blog by another gay hating bigot Phil Hickey, imagine my shock. The Saker is a bigot who hates gay people, plain and simple. He wants to go back in time to the 1950s or 1940s (or earlier?) when gays were seen as no different than pedophiles or people who had sex with animals, as revealed in his Moscow quote above. What a ridiculous, backward mentality, not to mention a ridiculous backwards argument full of deliberate lies and misinformation. It is not surprising he has found his audience here on Unz.com, where the comments section if full of extreme reactionary right wing assholes, bigots and idiots. Nothing like preaching to the choir, especially if your arguments are shit 😀

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Anon
    , @eah
    , @Contumacious
  71. paulll says:

    If a man wearing a dress and makeup upsets you, you are not just a homophobe, but an example of human depravity. The fact that such a demented attitude might be widespread doesn’t make it any less depraved or pathological. Human beings seem to be real effed- up sickos, as our endless wars indicate. It’s up to us to change that, but unfortunately there are many like Snaker who dedicate themselves to perpetuating insanity.

    All that being said, we have to recognize that the powers that be in our world have an uncanny ability to take any idea – however good that idea may be in itself – and weaponize it, that is, turn it into a tool for them to use to pursue their power-obsessed transhumanist agenda. Multi-culturalism is a very good idea. Tolerance is a very good idea. Globalism is a very good idea. Human rights is a very good idea. In fact, these ideas and many more are essential to a better human future, to any human future. They are being used in today’s world to help bring about a global police state.

    We need to be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The fundamental ideas are very good in many cases. They ways they are used can be paradoxical and manipulative. For example, respect for diversity and tolerance turns into censorship and intolerance. Wishes for a global humanity turn into a growing global inhumanity. Championing for human rights turns into warmongering.

    Let’s attack the way good ideas are manipulated, not the good ideas themselves. Queer people are good people. Embracing diversity isn’t just a good idea. It’s the right thing to do and an essential part of the path towards a better world.

    • LOL: eah
    • Troll: Harbinger
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Harbinger
    , @Anounder
  72. @Curmudgeon

    “Until the barrage of the last 25 years or so, women were largely more accepting of homosexuals than men, and men were more accepting of Lesbianism than women. “

    I call bullshit. Until the past ten years, ladies of celebrity mocked male homosexuals in comedy to movies and TV series. All the way to 2010 2-1/2 men openly mocked gays and their behaviors and mannerisms. Lesbians, meh, who cares? But male queers have always been and always will be mocked as weak and unable to find chicks so they switched sides. I believe that’s most of lesbianism, too. You want to feed to me the horseshit that all this is normal? Really!

    Queer men die earlier, lesbian women have high rates of domestic violence against themselves and abuse against the children they adopt, also. THAT is normal for the queer community, not for heteros. Best part is, when it became live and let live, and we try to ignore the faggots and trannies and lesbian commercials and propagation in schools and the rest, they invented pride parades, they jump up and down and grab their crotches and scream at us like looks, “LOOK AT ME! PAY ATTENTION TO ME!”.

    Only seriously sick, infantile and demented intellects behave that way. Again, normal for THEM. Against the mean of humanity, they are sick fucks top to bottom, the lot of them. It ain’t their queer shit they engage in, it’s the advocacy and refusal to leave us the fuck alone over it. The instant they aren’t getting attention, they throw another parade, riot or invent a new degeneracy for us to ‘accept’. What they’re doing is building backlash at this point. It’s high time the entire community experienced such. They aren’t worth the attention and expense.

    • Replies: @brandybranch
  73. Golobki says:

    Doesn’t the gay lobby’s claim if “born that way” contradict the trans argument that they aren’t limited to their biological setup? Why are they allied?

  74. Golobki says:
    @AmRusDebate

    Resist and you risk the rath of the state. You’ll be “doxed”, lose your job, banned from social media.

    I’m all for resistance but we should be prepared for the consequences. We must build a safety and support net for victims of the thought police.

  75. Jake says:

    Serena Williams was as doped as Barry Bonds. And it was covered up the same way Lance Armstrong’s doping was covered up, including the blackmail and various other threats. Add in race, with the Numinous Negro seen as untouchable, and you get doped Serena whose cheating must be ignored even if it were to lead to murders.

  76. Jake says:
    @Golobki

    They are in a alliance against Christ and Christendom.

    Why are Jews and Mlohammedans allied against ‘the West’? They are each Semitic anti-Christ and anti-Christendom.

  77. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Miggle

    I’ve been wondering about that, wondering where the immensely, stupendously powerful homosexual lobby sprang from.

    Money. As pointed out by The Saker, they’re getting immense sums of money from degenerate billionaires. And degenerate corporations.

    Like almost everything else evil that afflicts out world (like the crazy environmentalists), it’s a billionaires’ plot.

    Sorry, but it’s not a Jewish plot.

  78. One of the other things the movement does, and the Left does generally is, always claim when anyone raises any concern about the slippery slope, “Oh that will never happen” (like burly guys claiming to be women in order to go into women’s bathrooms where your daughter is, etc). Then if you point out some major news item (most suppressed now I bet) where this actually did happen, then they say, “that’s very rare…the exception etc” (like illegals killing you or your kids). Then later, the third step is, “these things are going to happen on occasion…it’s part of living in the modern world” (like, living with Terrorism in London). You see the same steps used with an in everything. Over time, and generations and with public education you see that the coming generations never need to be sold the prior steps, eventually it just becomes policy.

    They’ve been gaslighting Americans for decades with the whole “gays will never ask for marriages, geez-us, dummy, they just want to be left alone”…regardless of the controversial topic. They open the Overton window, and throw you out of it within a short time frame. Nothing in my long life has moved so rapidly as the LGBT movement. Not even “race relations” (normalizing of black crime, interracial relationships, etc etc).

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  79. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Golobki

    Doesn’t the gay lobby’s claim if “born that way” contradict the trans argument that they aren’t limited to their biological setup? Why are they allied?

    Don’t forget that the radical feminist lesbians (the so-called TERF) and the trannies hate each other’s guts.

  80. @Jim Christian

    thank you for saying what the rest of us are thinking.

  81. Anon[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @freedom-cat

    Some women are just more masculine looking just like some men are more feminine looking.

    No woman can naturally get as muscular as Williams is in that photo. Especially when looking at her lateral deltoid, few to no men can either. But on or off steroids, these women are literally not the same species as the natural White women of the sport. Which is crystal clear by physique comparison when watching them square off. Which means these Black women have essentially changed the sport into something else until they leave. That’s not a compliment.

    You meant to say that some women have normal female hormonal output and some women are variously Black and /or on steroids.

    No natural White woman is as masculine looking as the Williams sisters. They aren’t trans, they’re Black with the higher testosterone count that goes with it.

    Whether roided up or merely enjoying the increased hormonal output that makes younger women of their race pound for pound almost as strong as natural White men (especially at non-obese weights), they look and play like men (to be generous) in skirts and will ruin women’s tennis (like a tranny would) for as long as they are in the sport.

    • Agree: annamaria
    • Replies: @Truth
  82. MLK says:

    Most in the West, particularly in the U.S., still haven’t gotten their minds around the last quarter century. CCP China won the post-Cold War period hands down.

    What became evident years ago is that elite Westerners were of mixed opinion (to say the least) on the collapse of the Soviet/Totalitarian model. It isn’t as if these sentiments weren’t visible even at the height of The Cold War in the form of pessimism of a free (naive) society defeating such an enemy. But, after Soviet Communism collapsed, and State Capitalist China began to rise, the Administrative State in particular had lots of reasons to find technocratic control appealing.

    Ideologically, there is no longer a dime’s bit of difference between Western multinational corporations and CCP-led China.

    I bring this broad view up in this context because the Sexual Rights Revolution long ago turned coercive. My working assumption has long been that if a movement’s agenda is Live and Let Live (freedom) it has an opening. But when it turns coercive it will eventually come a cropper.

    You have to be blind not to see the stark difference between gay men/lesbians and trans. The latter are sick puppies at war with everyone else, including garden variety gays and lesbians.

    Vaclav Havel has written about the Communists true objective being to humiliate by forcing everyone to mouth the lies. That’s the stage we’re at regarding trans propaganda and, in my view, it is no more sustainable than any previous attempts.

    I know you and much of your readership wants to analogize to Jews and Israel. I understand why given similar coercive tactics. But this is the very definition of self-defeating behavior. Everyone is not alike, including peoples. Just as blacks are unique in American life (as Hillary discovered) so are Jews with a different metaphor of suffering.

  83. One really must feel sorry for homos in Russian and Eastern European countries–not because of persecution or anything, but because Slavic men are so goddamned fucking ugly. Seriously, how is it that Slavic women are naturally pretty (at least until the hit 30, and then they turn into babushkas overnight), but Slavic men are uniformly ogres?

    • Replies: @Arioch
  84. anonymous[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alt-right papist

    and for being soft on the muzzle question

    The “muzzle question” was created by the supremacist-pagan-whitrash. That question (or problem, as you would more rightly perceive it) can be resolved only when a solution can be found for the supremacist-pagan-whitrash abomination.

    Self-genocide of the supremacist-pagan-whitrash (may I suggest monk-hood, for y’all papist mfrs)… a clear manifestation of nature’s built-in equilibrium.

  85. @Logan Longshanks

    Subsidise marriage and procreation for genetically clean (no hereditary disorders), high-IQ people only.

    • Replies: @Crone
  86. @Golobki

    Doesn’t the gay lobby’s claim if “born that way” contradict the trans argument that they aren’t limited to their biological setup? Why are they allied?

    The Alphabet Soup of the Sexually Depraved (ASSD, my acronym covers the entire group quite well) are a bunch of childish, perverted assholes, covering, well, their assholes. Trannies are a group of mental defectives, that’s why all the suicides. Plus, these assholes from in-your-face homos, lesbians and tranny-types are also likely the biggest group of consumers of the M&Ms of the Depressed, after college-educated feminist Democrat females. And you’re looking for a rational thought-process from them? They’re retarded and infantile in every way imaginable. Proof that feminists are weak, those feminists allow the trannies to steal scholarships after the NOW-crowd pestered us for Title IX. This is a whole other reason for greater intake of the M&Ms of the Depressed. With trannies, the feminists are a group who, if the feminists (TERFs) protest, now find themselves in a street fight with trannies who have no sense of chivalry. Women aren’t strong, they’re weak. And most hetero White men aren’t coming to their defense, anymore, never again. Take care of your own and hell with everyone else. Defending them is a fool’s errand.

  87. Arioch says:

    > probably most/all major religions

    Abrahmic religions: Judaism / Christianity / Islam

    Then they are much more hostile to mens homosexuality, than to female’s: who cares what Solomon/Suleiman’s wives did in harem?

    However i am not sure mitraism or zoroastrism or european paganic religions were so passionately hostile to it.

    Buddhism, sintoism – are them?

    Now, one may say that those are Abrahmic religions who “own” the world today, and by this metric are “major”. And that their stance on homosexuality made them successful im that conquest. Which, maybe is. However then the causality would be opposite: not the major religions are against gays, but religions starkly against gays have better chances to became major ones

  88. Anon[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @ben sampson

    I perved on both.

    Gross. Do you “perv” on Black male professional boxers as well?

    Williams’s body compares. The sexual visualization would be very similar.

    Sharapova and Williams are two different examples of the human females from different environments and biological backgrounds

    They’re obviously different species.

    one is better than the other..more beautiful etc. who the hell says so..god?

    Objective and traditional first world universal beauty standards for females.

    Go-rillas and racists belong in the same cages at the zoo

    Its ironic, and a bit of projection, to mention “Go-rillas”(?) in a rebuttal attempting to persuade anyone (hello?) of the practicality of comparing the supposed beauty of Williams to Sharapova. It was an inadvisable remark.

    Precisely because Williams literally looks like a gorilla in a tennis skirt when playing natural White females.

    Which coincides with her races gorilla behavior that literally everyone, including themselves, tries their best to escape (chasing everyone else ever further away).

    Do you want more Black gorilla comparisons or are you regretting your metaphor?

    Racism is the rejection of widespread gorilla behavior.

    In tennis, its obvious that one race can develop lean muscle mass above most other races and therefore come to dominate the sports in which they participate. Muscle mass that other humans can not so readily develop.

    • Replies: @Truth
  89. Arioch says:
    @Tomorrow We Live

    Simple. You assume men and women being genetically unrelated to each other.

    But imagine if they were related. One human “tribe” with their average “phenotype”, the outlook set somewhere between masculinity and femininity.
    Then men and women deviate from that average into different directions.

    Not A and B but rather (A-B) and (A+B)

    Towards one pole you would have then beautiful(handsome) men with clearly defined manly features. Square jaws and all that. However the consequence would be manly ugly women.

    Towards another pole you would have beautiful(gorgeous) women with soft and soothing features. And in consequence – men lacking those “monumental” qualities in their exhibits.

  90. anonymous[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    The Bible has been right for millenia and will always be right as long as humans are around, regardless of how “advanced” some lunatics think we are at this random point in time.

    Lol!

    I understand that the point of my post is not even mentioned in this “Bible” of yours, but before confidently (more like delusionally) claiming its inerrancy, you may first wish to square-the-circle of your foundational creed… that oxymoron called Monotheistic Trinitarianism. You would then have a much firmer base to stand on, and spew your nonsense.

    Good luck with that! 😀

  91. Melvin35 says:
    @Curmudgeon

    I second the vote as I have always favored “sodomite” over any other term.

    The political sodomite groups I have always simply referred to as “the acronym people” as I have long lost track of what the ever-changing line of letters stand for.

  92. n230099 says:

    “Now, the word “phobia” can mean one of two things: aversion/hatred or fear/anxiety.

    Does this make sense to you?”

    No. It means, as the link provided states. Exaggerated/unreasonable fear. This is why it’s use to imply hatred sounds so stupid. No one is afraid of Homosexuals or Islam. Use of the word in this manner has rendered it impotent and put it in the same category as ‘racist’ or ‘fascist’ that have just come to mean ‘stuff I don’t like’ .

  93. eah says:
    @Virgile

    Do you really think that Russian men do not practice or fantasize about practicing anal sex or blowjobs, the ‘dirty’ acts that homosexual are accused of practicing? That is naive…

    No, “Russian men”, meaning normal heterosexual men, do not have or fantasize about having anal sex or oral sex with other men — and that is true of normal, heterosexual men around the world.

    Normal heterosexual men have and fantasize about having anal sex as a “top” with women — since sex is about pleasure as well as reproduction, and some fraction of both sexes find this act pleasurable (partly for psychological reasons, ie as an act of submission by the female).

    Also normal heterosexual men enjoy receiving and fantasize about receiving oral sex (fellatio) from a woman.

    What abnormal heterosexual men (?) may practice or fantasize about is anyone’s guess.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  94. anarchyst says:

    As much as homosexuals vehemently deny it, homosexuality and pedophilia are inextricably linked. Almost all homosexuals have had their first homosexual “experience” introduced to them by an ADULT homosexual as pre-teen males. This, in itself constitutes homosexual pedophilia, which is criminal behavior in itself and is a way to destroy a pre-teen child for life.
    The so-called Roman Catholic priest “child abuse scandal” was actually homosexual pedophilia in action. Of course the “mainstream media” could not afford to offend the “homosexual community” by calling what it really was–thereby, the “play on words”, calling it “child sex abuse” rather than homosexual pedophilia–the true definition of their sordid behavior.
    I must play “devil’s advocate” when it comes to the Catholic church homosexual pedophilic priest “problem”…The Catholic church was “caught between a rock and a hard place” and had every right to be concerned about how many false claims would be made by those parishioners who belonged to the parish at the same time as this behavior was going on. Follow the money… Of course, there is (and was) absolutely NO EXCUSE for this homosexual pedophilic behavior…
    It is interesting to note that the number of incidents of homosexual pedophilia among clergy is higher for Protestant ministers and jewish rabbis than for that of Catholic priests. These figures are carefully “covered up” so as not to offend Protestant and jewish interests.
    Sad to say, the homosexual lobby is at it again, encouraging the “psychiatric community” to change the definition of pedophilia from a psychiatric “disorder” to a mere “lifestyle”, not unlike what was done for homosexuality. Sick, huh??

  95. Republic says:
    @Wally

    Israel becoming ‘safe haven for paedophiles’ with laws that allow any Jews to legally return

    Good news for Epstein if he makes bail on Monday

  96. anarchyst says:

    Woman Raised By Lesbians Has Some Shocking Things To Say About Needing A Dad

    Experience is supposed to be top card over any and all facts. But what happens when experience blows holes in the activist narrative?

    It doesn’t matter who you click with. That was what the airline put in their ads.

    Homosexuals should be able to raise children. We’ve been told this for as long as same-sex relationships have been socially acceptable.

    But did anybody ask what the CHILDREN thought about it?

    One has finally spoken up. The keepers of the narrative will not like it.

    We can probably expect her to be given the same rough treatment that other heretics against the cause, like Milo, are given.

    So, while she still has a voice, let’s let hers be heard:

    It’s her own personal story, after all. By the rules of the game as the Left has been playing it, who can judge her for her own story?

    [Heather]Barwick, who is 31 now, married, and has four children, said that same-sex marriage and parenting withholds either a mother or father from a child while telling him or her that it doesn’t matter. That it’s all the same. But it’s not.

    “A lot of us, a lot of your kids, are hurting,” wrote Barwick in her essay for The Federalist website. “My father’s absence created a huge hole in me, and I ached every day for a dad. I loved my mom’s partner, but another mom could never have replaced the father I lost.”

    “I grew up surrounded by women who said they didn’t need or want a man,” said Barwick. “Yet, as a little girl, I so desperately wanted a daddy. It is a strange and confusing thing to walk around with this deep-down unquenchable ache for a father, for a man, in a community that says that men are unnecessary.”

    She used to be an advocate of same-sex marriage. So she isn’t motivated by disdain for same-sex relationships. She’s backing a different cause now.

    “Gay marriage doesn’t just redefine marriage, but also parenting,” she says. “It promotes and normalizes a family structure that necessarily denies us something precious and foundational. It denies us something we need and long for, while at the same time tells us that we don’t need what we naturally crave. That we will be okay. But we’re not. We’re hurting.”

    “It’s not just me,” said Barwick. “There are so many of us. Many of us are too scared to speak up and tell you about our hurt and pain, because for whatever reason it feels like you’re not listening. That you don’t want to hear.”

    “If we say we are hurting because we were raised by same-sex parents, we are either ignored or labeled a hater,” she wrote.
    Source: Daily Mail

    Now she’s an advocate of Children’s rights. She’s also married and a mother of four.

    Buckle up, Heather. It looks like you’ll be in for a rough ride.

  97. @OscarWildeLoveChild

    Nothing in my long life has moved so rapidly as the LGBT movement.

    That one has taken a lot of us by surprise.

    I remember years ago the left was pushing the “animal rights” meme.

    If that moved forward as quickly as LGBT pet ownership would have been banned by now.

    • Replies: @Paw
  98. Republic says:

    The parallels between how the Israel Lobby carefully crafted the public discourse on Zionism and Israel and how the LGBTQIAPK+ Lobby succeeded in shaping the public discourse on homosexuality is striking and not at all coincidental: for a host of reasons these two lobbies strongly support each other and learn from each other.

    That explains the rapid political rise of Pete Buttigieg, he is being used as a proxy warrior for the Zionists

  99. anon[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @Deschutes

    large number of psychiatric conditions are nothing but deviations from socially , culturally , religiously accepted norms . Scientific basis yet to be found for majority of them .
    Psychiatric conditions hurt and distress other or the those suffering from it .
    Gay- Lesbian also deviate from norms and large number of them struggle with it . Is Anti social or Narcistic personality a disease ? Does beastiality spring from genetic metabolic derangement ? Is homosexual behavior in prison normal ?

    Gay -Lesbian was rehabilitated by social acceptance and by valorizing and by glorifying . This strategy has been proved repeatedly in history in other area .

    It is social ostracism that defines how soldier , assassin , murderer , terrorists , freedom fighter , illegal combatant , and patriots are hated , celebrated , denounced , accepted or rejected . Sometimes the changes in attitudes take time , sometimes the result , but always the pressure of the victors who order and impose on rest whether Hitler , Truman , Bin Laden , Modi , Ben Guiron Rabin , Shamir , Shimon Peres or Arafat or Nasarallah should be kicked out of the theater hall or the presidential podium or country or exiled to St Helens or Guantanamo.

    Even the sincere distressing apology from yesteryear ‘s leaders or patriarchs of society seem often to be the result of the change in the mores of the society , Graham apologized for anti Semitic remark . Cheney was proud of anti -Islamic remarks , Pressure and imposition of new value based ideas can change him also .

    Gay can screw as much as he wants to screw another gay but 1 don’t wear the queer stuff and dress like a feathered colored fallen bird in school , college, church , mosques , or in Heterosrxusl wedding or bar or gathering .
    2 don’t try to introduce sexual gender choice dimorphism in 2 st grade or 5 th grade . Wait until you understand human biology sexual biology and cultural religious attitude / that means wait until 12 th grade .
    3 sex education is not for KG or 4 th grader
    ( congratulations to those brave Muslim and Christian parents who stopped teaching of sex and homosexuality in primary school in Britain )
    5 don’t demand religious marriage
    6 you can choose as your health beneficiary who ever you want .
    7 you can go to work and you can demand to be hired despite having effeminate or masculine attitudes but keep the dress and the overt behavior free of sexual vibes .
    8 society doesn’t like serial philanderer , who serially dupes , charlatan , polygamy , multiple girl friend dame time or multiple marriages . Because society gets hurt . Society might feel same way to LG .

  100. Crone says:
    @Tomorrow We Live

    Yes, but the subsidy should be given by their local church or other social club, not by a governmental body. The societal goal should be freedom of association for adults. This would include freedom for private organizations to promote preferred behaviors and to publicly denounce abhorrent behaviors.

    • Replies: @Anounder
  101. nickels says:

    Homosexuality destroys societies.
    That’s why Dante has them in hell lower than Stalin and Lenin, and the other mass murderers, down with the usurers.

    • Replies: @Toby
  102. I share Saker’s loathing of the LGBTQ blippety blip + alphabetism. I also agree with some of his points and strongly disagree with others. The central issue is the condemnation of sex between males (not “homosexuality”), which is a theological taboo originating in the Holiness Code of Leviticus — a taboo carried forward by all three Abrahamic religions. I chronicle this taboo in my 1998 book, A Freethinker’s Primer of Male Love. In historical and anthropological perspective, male-to-male sex is an ordinary, healthy part of the human sexual repertoire. Historically, and also today, gay men can and do marry women and raise families. There is no contradiction. If anything, a male’s ability to have sex with another male enhances his ability to have sex with a female. My Stonewall50 manifesto is in the link.

    BTW, Ron, I’m a Harvard grad, and voted for you in the election back when.

    • Replies: @TKK
    , @Truth
    , @Anounder
  103. Harbinger says:

    A very good article.

    The argument I use, to instantly destroy the stupid argument that if one doesn’t agree with homosexuality and instantly labelled a homophobe and a closet homosexual, I reply “So you’re obviously a paedophobe and a closet paedophile then?”

    Homosexuality is a mental disorder. The only reason that it’s no longer classed as such is because the psychologists, in the west have been bullied into submission, firstly by being told by the Jews, involved, in the changing of their findings, that if they didn’t their establishments would lose funding and they’d be blacklisted from working in their industry again and secondly by the psychology departments being flooded with homosexuals.
    Homosexuality is immoral, unnatural and abnormal behaviour. It cannot be disputed and is simple fact.

    I worked, as a heterosexual doorman in the past, in homosexual venues. I will always refuse to use the word ‘gay’ to define these perverts. What I saw was lost young men and women. The men were incredibly effeminate while the female opposite. It was like some sci-fi movie where the male soul had been transplanted into the female body and vice versa. One wondered where their vagina was while the other their penis.
    I also noticed that the women were incredibly anti male, while the men not so. Of course, you would very rarely see a lesbian hanging out with a heterosexual male, but quite the contrary with the homosexual men. The term ‘fag hag’ is used to imply a heterosexual woman who hangs about with homosexual men.
    The drive towards the utter destabilising of society is most certainly, overwhelming lesbian driven. Feminism, second wave feminism was promoted, predominantly by Jewish, lesbian misandrists. So not only did you have the normal, indoctrinated hatred of the goyim by the Jew, you now had double plus hatred of male goyim by these evil harpies.
    If anything, what I’ve seen with lesbian women is penis envy at its highest. Lesbians are overwhelmingly men haters.

    It’s not so much that the tail is wagging the dog, when it comes to the minority controlling the majority, but more like the hair, on the tail of the dog. Homosexuals make up a tiny minority of the western population. And of course, they’re using the Jewish created, victim mentality, persecution complex to force their perversion upon society.
    I vehemently disagree with homosexuality, although it doesn’t stop me speaking to them, as I treat them like any other human being. I just simply disagree their sexual choice. And it is.

  104. Very incisive article. Saker, keep on writing as you write, no matter what they call you. As far as homosexuals are concerned, I have known many over the years. As individuals, I have found some to be beautiful human beings and others to be totally abominable creatures – not any different than the larger society. Rather than concentrate on the individual homosexual, it is the political agenda that our current society has been trying to foist on the larger society for the past 40+ (this plus doesn’t have anything to do with an previous unknown gender). The speech Nazis and the thought Nazis utterly disgust me. It is these creatures against who I am phobic. To keep things simple, I treat homosexuals in the same manner as I do people who prefer chocolate ice cream rather than vanilla or vice-versa. I do not see the need to have a special flag or a parade. Do homosexuals really add something to society at large? True, many of them are gifted in the arts, but is this gift contingent on their sexual proclivities? I don’t think so. More abominable is the trans issue which is currently being put in society’s face. This is a far larger psychological abomination than plain old homosexuality. I refuse to call a he a she, a zhir or a hir. I guess there might be a nice comfy place in the upcoming Gulag or re-education camp that the uber politically-correct would love to send people like me.

    • Replies: @Arioch
  105. Arioch says:
    @Colin Wright

    Perverts – and to a lesser degree deviants – is loaded word too.

    Can we name them anti-breeders or pro-creation-phobes?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Colin Wright
  106. R.M. Nixon, presidential sage, had much to say on the issue…. He was sometimes wrong (last 6 Roman emperors -not fags), but I like videos of his private recordings…

    RICHARD NIXON TAPES: Archie Bunker & Homosexuality

    The best is 9:40

    Ehrlichman: Hot pants
    Nixon: Jesus Christ!

    Also, Nixon seems to have talked about legendary conspiratorial Bohemian Grove:

    Nixon Tape Discusses Homosexuals at Bohemian Grove

    Anyway, Nixon is interesting….



    Nixon tapes shed new light on his views of women, gay people and Jews

    • Replies: @anonymous
  107. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    So you … needlessly extend the comment thread?

    How can you know it could be briefer without reading it?

    And are you the same person who used to post so many overlong comments at Taki’s?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  108. Arioch says:
    @Brooklyn Dave

    Reportedly, males aversion to male homosexuality has biological roots.
    Notice, that male aversion to female homosexuality or females aversion to males homosexuality seems much less frequent and passionate.

    Reportedly sexuality of little boys and little girls is the same.
    Very few memories i have from early kindergarten seems to agree.
    Then towards puberty boys come through some reversal of their instincts. Girls do not.

    Then with boys there should be the device that *pushes* them VERY hard to reverse the very foundation of their psychology, turn them away from mothers and to fathers and so forth.

    IOW for boys aversion to male homosexuality should be natural aversion to past they need to overcome to move onward.

    We all loved to suck our mothers breasts. But if at 20yo you still feel urge to undress your mother and suck on her breasts, them perhaps something did not click when it had to, by normal biology path.

  109. @Rational

    The Judaists are behind this depravity, to brainwash the public, to destroy families, to warp their sexual mores. This is a part of their WAR ON CIVILIZATION. These people are barbarians.

    Hahhah….. in Proust’s mind, there was also a link between Jews & homos. Here again the opening part of “Sodom & Gomorrah”.

    [MORE]

    For the two angels who were posted at the gates of Sodom to learn whether its inhabitants (according to Genesis) had indeed done all the things the report of which had ascended to the Eternal Throne must have been, and of this one can only be glad, exceedingly ill chosen by the Lord, Who ought not to have entrusted the task to any but a Sodomite. Such an one the excuses: “Father of six children-I keep two mistresses,” and so forth could never have persuaded benevolently to lower his flaming sword and to mitigate the punishment; he would have answered: “Yes, and exceptional creatures whom we commiserate are a vast crowd, as we shall see in the course of this work, for a reason which will be disclosed only at the end of it, and commiserate themselves for being too many rather than too few. But even when these women have not been chosen by you from Gomorrah, you spend your nights with a watcher of flocks upon Hebron.” And he would at once have made him retrace his steps to the city which the rain of fire and brimstone was to destroy. On the contrary, they allowed to escape all the shame-faced Sodomites, even if these, on catching sight of a boy, turned their heads, like Lot’s wife, though without being on that account changed like her into pillars of salt. With the result that they engendered a numerous posterity with whom this gesture has continued to be habitual, like that of the dissolute women who, while apparently studying a row of shoes displayed in a shop window, turn their heads to keep track of a passing student.

    These descendants of the Sodomites, so numerous that we may apply to them that other verse of shall thy seed also be numbered,” have established themselves throughout the entire world; they have had access to every profession and pass so easily into the most exclusive clubs that, whenever a Sodomite fails to secure election, the blackballs are, for the most part, cast by other Sodomites, who are anxious to penalise sodomy, having inherited the falsehood that enabled their ancestors to escape from the accursed city. It is possible that they may return there one day. Certainly they form in every land an Oriental colony, cultured, musical, malicious, which has certain charming qualities and intolerable defects. We shall study them with greater thoroughness in the course of the following pages; but I have thought it as well to utter here a provisional warning against the lamentable error of proposing (just as people have encouraged a Zionist movement) to create a Sodomist movement and to rebuild Sodom. For, no sooner had they arrived there than the Sodomites would leave the town so as not to have the appearance of belonging to it, would take wives, keep mistresses in other cities where they would find, incidentally, every diversion that appealed to them.

    They would repair to Sodom only on days of supreme necessity, when their own town was empty, at those seasons when hunger drives the wolf from the woods; in other words, everything would go on very much as it does to-day in London, Berlin, Rome, Petrograd or Paris.

    • Replies: @PeterMX
  110. anon[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arioch

    Loaded word has loads of meaning accrued over the years . Gradually the word becomes the victims of abuse by public to convey their narrowness . Calling someone retard might send certain message of disappointment anger frustration and impatience but it also sends the message that someone is not intellectually good when there is no evidence he is not .
    . So retard becomes passionate and becomes re-loaded with extreme negative attitude and conjectures .

    Very soon you can’t use the word mentally retarded in diagnosis .

  111. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    So, did you decide to read the article?

    Commenters like this are one of the reasons that I choose anonymity. Too many think they have an audience in their own right.

  112. Pancho says:

    1. The gay movement is a political movements disguised as a social one.

    2. The gay movement has become a Trojan Horse, the fifth column of the New World Order to infiltrate the whole world.

    3. Globalist millionaires are financing the gay movement. This explain why the gay movement has full support of the mainstream press.

    • Replies: @Wally
  113. dfordoom says: • Website
    @eah

    Normal heterosexual men have and fantasize about having anal sex as a “top” with women

    I don’t think so. Some men may fantasise about it but if they they’re definitely not normal.

    • LOL: eah
  114. @Virgile

    No design….

    [MORE]

    From


    ……………

    Next, ask yourself whether, if you were designing the optimum exit for a human foetus, you would engineer a route that passes through the narrow confines of the pelvic girdle. Add to this the tragic reality that childbirth in our species is not only painful but downright dangerous and sometimes lethal, owing to occasional cephalo-pelvic disproportion (literally, the baby’s head being too large for the mother’s birth canal), breech presentation, and so forth. This design flaw is all the more dramatic if you simply glance at a human skeleton: There is plenty of room for even the most stubbornly mis-oriented, bloat-brained foetus to be easily delivered, anywhere in that vast non-bony region below the ribs! And in fact, that is precisely what obstetricians do, when performing a Caesarean section.

    It is notable that evolution has altogether neglected the simple, straight-forward solution, which would have been for the vagina to open anywhere in the lower abdomen. Instead, it stubbornly and stupidly insisted that the vaginal canal thread its way through that ridiculously narrow pelvic ring, thus requiring the poor foetus to do the same. Why? Because human beings are mammals, and therefore tetrapods by history. As such, our ancestors carried their spines parallel to the ground; it was only with our insistence on upright posture that the pelvic girdle had to be rotated, thereby making a tight fit out of what for other mammals is nearly always an easy birth passage. An engineer who designed such a system from scratch—i.e., who specially created it—would get a failing grade. But evolution didn’t have the luxury of intelligent design. Rather, it had to make do with the materials available. (Admittedly, it can be argued that the dangers and discomforts of childbirth were preplanned after all, since Genesis gives us God’s judgment upon Eve that as punishment for her disobedience in Eden: ‘in pain you shall bring forth children’ [Gen 3.16]. Might this imply that if Eve had only restrained herself, her vagina would have been where every woman’s belly-button currently resides?)

    On to men. Let’s note first that an especially awkward design flaw of the human body—male and female alike—results from the close anatomical association of the excretory and reproductive systems, a proximity attributable to a long-standing, primitive vertebrate connection, and one that isn’t only troubling for those who are sexually fastidious. Moreover, although there is no obvious downside to the deplorable fact that the male urethra does double-duty, carrying both semen and urine, most elderly men have occasion to regret that the prostate gland is directly adjacent to the bladder, so that enlargement of the former impinges awkwardly on the latter. In addition, as human testicles descended—both in evolution and in embryology—from their position inside the body cavity, the vas deferens, which connects testis to urethra, became looped around the ureter (which carries urine from kidneys to bladder), resulting in an altogether ridiculous arrangement that would never have occurred if evolution could have anticipated the problem and, like an even minimally competent structural designer, created male tubing that ran in a direct line.

    A final example, although many more are available: The primitive vertebrate system, still found among some of today’s chordates, combined both feeding and respiration (just as excretion and reproduction used to overlap, and still do in many species). Water went in, food was filtered out, and passive diffusion sufficed for respiration. As body size increased, a separate respiratory system was added, but by piggy-backing onto the pre-existing digestive plumbing. By consequence, access to what became the lungs was achieved only by sharing a common ante-room with in-coming food. As a result, people are vulnerable to choking. The Heimlich manoeuvre is a wonderful innovation, but it wouldn’t be needed if evolution had the simple foresight to design separate passages for food and air, instead of combining the two. But here as in other respects, natural selection operated by small, mindless increments, without any attention to any bigger picture or anything approaching a wise, benevolent over-view. It must be emphasized that the preceding does not constitute an argument against evolution; in fact, quite the opposite! Thus, if living things (including human beings) were the products of special creation rather than of natural selection, then the flawed nature of biological systems, including ourselves, would pose some awkward questions, to say the least.

    If God created ‘man’ in his image, does this imply that he, too, has comparably ill-constructed knee joints, a poorly engineered lower back, dangerously narrow birth canal, and ridiculously ill-conceived urogenital plumbing? A novice engineer could have done better. The point is that these and other structural flaws aren’t ‘antievolutionary’ arguments at all, but rather cogent demonstrations of the contingent, unplanned, entirely natural nature of natural selection. Evolution has had to make do with an array of constraints, including—but not limited to—those mandated by past history.

  115. Agent76 says:

    Jun 6, 2019 If You have A Problem With The #STRAIGHTPRIDE Parade, You’re Not Seeing The BIGGER PICTURE!

    This summer the city of Boston may become the first city ever to host a straight pride parade if a group known as “Super Happy Fun America” gets their way.

    Apr 6, 2019 Groundbreaking Lawsuit Could Strike Down LGBT LAWS Across The Nation

    There is a similar movement for trans rights taking place in the United States however some towns are pushing back and this week Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) filed a powerful groundbreaking lawsuit against a local Ohio sexual orientation gender identity (SOGI) non-discrimination law that some say may become the most significant religious freedom case since Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission (2018).

  116. Jester says:
    @ben sampson

    People go to the Zoo and Circus to gawk at the animals and freaks. You should know these places do not ask their paying customers to remain after they have examined the other species and degenerates slithering around among us. As for “neanderthal racists” what can be more Neanderthal than Williams and the “racist” label is a poor debate tool. I see your name is Sampson ? You probably had your hair cut by one of the trannies and gender confused hoes you seem to like. This must have made you weak in body matching your weak mind. Think little girl ! Even idiots like you should have some semblance of reason. LGBTQ is a sleazebag of vomit and excrement all blended together, suitable for people like you and your ilk to wallow in !

    • Agree: bruce county
  117. dfordoom says: • Website
    @dfordoom

    I don’t think so. Some men may fantasise about it but if they they’re definitely not normal.

    That obviously should have read:
    I don’t think so. Some men may fantasise about it but if they do they’re definitely not normal.

  118. @anonymous

    And are you the same person who used to post so many overlong comments at Taki’s?

    My comments, when long, were thoughtful, elaborated & nuanced.

    Saker’s (and Unz’s) are just a heap of rambling nonsense. That’s what they are:

  119. chris says:

    I know for a fact that many (all?) US embassies abroad are delivering funds to promote “gay rights” in many (most?) countries of our poor planet.

    Yeah, this aspect of it may be worth an entire article of its own. The US.gov had previously staffed many of its secret service ranks with Christian sectists like the Mormons, because it could elicit a type of loyalty which could just not otherwise be bought. But Christians also had a certain amount of risks for these services because some of these members brought with them an immutable conscience which had been already formed.

    It seems to me that this is where gays may have been filling the ranks of these services. The reasons they are such perfect tools for the state is that they are not particularly hindered undue consciences, they form a clandestine web, rejected by their own societies, loyal to themselves, and would certainly be fiercely loyal to those who, like the US.gov, exert undue pressure on all to support and promote ‘their’ LBG73 agenda. This is the danger that Justin Raimondo warned his fellow gays about, not to shake the hand of the devil and take the bargain by which they would be aligned with it against the entire societies in which they are let loose on. Like all tools of Uncle Sam, it is exactly they who will become its victims once the work of smashing these societies will fail as it it bound to do.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  120. I hate to point out the blindingly obvious but:

    Any condition/practice which, if universal, would result in the extinction of humanity in one generation is not to be celebrated.

    The only question is the degree, if any, it is to be tolerated.

    • Agree: TKK
  121. Jester says:
    @Wally

    Ben is a low life dirt bag back door boy/ girl whose mouth drips with with contemporary “wisdom “similar in content to what comes out the other end. Shemales like him/ her argue the abnormal is normal and if you disagree ? Well then you are a racist, homophobe etc.

    That is the extent of his ability to reason. The poor fellow is probably an ivy league graduate.

    I would bet money his favorite holiday spots are San Francisco and Israel. And his favorite song ? “I left my arse…………in San Francisco”

    Girls like him (did I say him?) serve as good examples, that is negative ones. They keep us straight and righteous men who acknowledge that while freaks of nature are a small percentage of the overall population there is a right and wrong eternally dictated by nature.

  122. PeterMX says:

    I think it’s probably never a good idea to ask your enemies to be “fair” to you, or ask them for anything else either. At this time, although so many of the allied lies (and the Russians, with Jewish influence, were liars as big as anyone) were exposed decades ago already, the “NAZI” epithet continues to benefit some people, mostly the Jews. But eventually, your debunked soap and lampshade stories, the 4 million and 40 years later 1 million (still without evidence) dead at Auschwitz (Russian Jew?) lies and the fact that even Ukrainians and others in the USSR welcomed the German army, while no Germans welcomed the raping Reds or their allies, has to eventually make a light go off in even the dumbest that something is still wrong with your story.

  123. Wally says:
    @Pancho

    Exactly like the fake ‘global cooling’, ‘global warming’, ‘climate change’, climate extremes’, & ‘climate disaster’.

  124. PeterMX says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    The comment has been proven beyond any doubt. Lying about it won’t gain you friends.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  125. Homosexual behaviour etc is not about sex. Sex is the intentional act of trying to create offspring. IVF is closer to sex than all this erotic play, which is all these behaviours are.

    Is erotic play without an underlying desire to create kids bad? Not particularly. It is materialistic, and reduces your other side to lumps of flesh, but without the intention to do harm or deceive, it is just erotic play.

  126. Jester says:
    @Rabbitnexus

    While we are about it here is some more scientific evidence for faggotry. Since we seek to prove that this is unacceptable behaviour scientists have proven that the lower intestine of the average “man” holds 5 to 10 pounds of uneliminated you know what.

    In the Nam, the Viet Cong used to smear sharpened bamboo sticks with human feces. Step on it and you are guaranteed a bad infection, human feces being extremely poisonous. Imagine sticking your stick into 5 to 10 pounds of that.

    It shows you how far we have progressed in logic and civilization when you have these queers justifying their perversions………….and expecting everyone else to understand and accept their twisted degeneracy !

  127. … if somewhere around 1.2%-2.2% of humans might be born homosexuals and if sociopaths are 3%-5% of the population, then sociopathy is about as “natural” as homosexuality. In fact, we could even declare that sociopathy is a “ normal and positive variation of personality”.

    If you believe what you see on telly in the Decadent West, half the population in the Decadent West are persons of colour, half the white population are gay, and any remaining white folk are the socio- and psychopaths, indeed making it a normal condition, but one found almost exclusively among white-straight folks.

    I’m a live and let live guy, but what we have now is children being recruited as early as eight years of age, sometime younger, often in the schools, and a dedicated set of activists rushing them off to clinics and hormones to get them on track with hormones, etc., before puberty sets in to take them in the direction nature might take them.

    We are well beyond brainwashing in the Decadent West … our children are being Gender-formed, and parents are almost powerless to stop it.

    • Replies: @Anon
  128. As there is no PC BS in Russia, Russian bloggers call them “brothers Williams”. I don’t now about anatomy, but to anyone familiar with mammalian biology high testosterone shows. Testosterone and its analogs come in pills. Of course, WADA would never find doping in brothers Williams – it is paid not to.

  129. nsa says:
    @Wally

    Everyone enjoys a little fag bashing fun as a welcome relief from the usual jew baiting……but only Wally could accomplish a proper Hegelian dialectical synthesis: the jew has a fag gene.

  130. @Deschutes

    What? Shit like this:

    http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/

    http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2015/

    Why should anyone want this on their streets? Anyone half-normal that is? I can see it’s fun for some but why in public?

  131. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    If people want to be homos or ‘gay,’ fine with me, but please keep your sexual proclivities to yourself and your community.
    The rest of us don’t want or need to see gay people prancing down the street, in a costume festooned with dildos, swapping spit with your boyfriend(s) and wearing only skimpy Speedo outfits.

    And stay away from our kids. We know you can’t reproduce, so you have to recruit. And the younger the easier to get the gullible little ones to your side.

    It’s easy to see where all this gay propaganda is leading; The LGBTQ crowd want to add MAP to their roster, which is Minor Attracted Person, or what we would call a pedophile.

    Don’t even go there.

    • Agree: AnonFromTN
  132. “I’m a live and let live guy, but what we have now is children being recruited as early as eight years of age, sometime younger, often in the schools, and a dedicated set of activists rushing them off to clinics and hormones to get them on track with hormones, etc., before puberty sets in to take them in the direction nature might take them.”

    I think this is accurate. The diminished capacity of parents to protect their children from this type of education (indoctrination?) is a very serious issue. And very few in the Psychiatric and counseling community are standing up against the practice.

    ————————————————————-

    I wish the article had been more directed on the issue as opposed to the side barring. And good place to have started is with The Kinsey Report and its impact on the general population and counseling. The other aspect to have tackled head on is how that along with the APA Conferences in the 1970(?) and especially 1973 at which the DSM classification was changed. That change was not predicated on science. But a very bizarre violent protest in which conference passes were manufactured to homosexual advocates that enabled them to attend sessions and the general meetings during which via of violence protest and threats they hijacked the process intimidated the classification reviewers so intensely that the change was made.

    To this date there is not evidence that same sex conduct is determined by ant steady state bio-mechanism or process – none.

    —————————–

    The photos opening the article are misleading, and damage the credibility of the author’s intent. A photo of a tennis player breaking from play and another of a tennis player wading leisurely at the beach has not connection to the article in my view. At least I don’t get it. Whatever their physique neither of these women profess to prefer same sex relations — at least not to my knowledge.

  133. Phew! Excuse me if I didn’t read every word. Am I unenlightened if I just settle for supporting a rule that no penis should be exhibited in a Ladies loo?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  134. @Arioch

    ‘Perverts – and to a lesser degree deviants – is loaded word too…’

    Well, perhaps…but only because of the necessary implications of the words. After all, to pervert means to turn aside from a natural and intended purpose, to misuse.

    How else would you describe all these possible ways of obtaining sexual gratification without even simulating the act of reproduction?

    To deviate merely means to fail to follow the prescribed course. That one’s positively polite. I frequently deviate from hopping on I-5, preferring to drive through town on my way to Costco.

    I see no need to seek still more obscure euphemisms.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  135. TKK says:
    @John Lauritsen

    If anything, a male’s ability to have sex with another male enhances his ability to have sex with a female.

    How so?

    • Replies: @John Lauritsen
  136. sally says:
    @Jon Baptist

    Sexual liberation is formed by experience. Experience is influenced by the positive pressure of propaganda. Propaganda programmed environments are engineered episodes of experience, designed to influence human cognitive outcomes. The cognitive results of human interaction with sexual liberation type propaganda in episodically engineered experience space influences human experience and is therefore potentially the most dangerous weapon mankind has ever had to deal with.

    We must remember that learning, knowledge & its utility to human endeavor, memory, and belief systems are all biological processes that experience influences. In fact there is no teacher to human cognitive processes but experience. Propaganda is a remote programming or reprogramming process that operates much like a Field Programmable Gate Array (FPGA), wherein the developer, manufacturer, vendor, or spy or whomever, can reprogram the gate array, even after GA is purchased, even while the user is using the GA..
    If you add y ==> FPGAY society.. .

    A most difficult endeavor our society encounters is to separate out the promise in the US CONSTITUTION of 1789 as amended in 1791 to say in part . “CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW .. ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, OR OF THE PRESS; <==from PROPAGANDA
    but “is propaganda constitutionally protected speech?

    Propaganda engineers programs that influence both the structure and function of the human mind. Propaganda engineering is a science. Propaganda is the result of developed technology. Propaganda is a weapon to be used against a culture, society, nation, and even the entire population of the world.

    It could be argued speech is not protected under the constitution when such speech or articles in the press has or have been designed, engineered, and programmed to establish an “experience space” that reprograms the human mind.

    I do not believe propaganda is protected speech or even speech, under the Constitution? Instead I argue it is fraud. and that it should be prosecuted a fraud.. under the criminal statutes passed by the Article I congress. and endorsed or not vetoed by the Article II President.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  137. TKK says:

    Without exception, every homosexual I know is miserable. A walking stew of drama, hatred and mental instability. Even ones that have careers, money, and good families engage in hysterical promiscuity.

    It is ironic, however, to call a weak man a fag. How tough are you to have your rectum torn to shreds every day?

    Male sodomy is repellent. I can’t get past it when I look at that Buttleig. It worries me that they- the people who run America- are going to put him in office as a final kick in the teeth after the Obama experiment.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Anounder
  138. Patricus says:
    @Fool's Paradise

    When I was young there was a question about homosexuality. Is it nature or nurture? According to an article I recently read (not in a scientific publication) it was stated that researchers have been able to induce homosexuality in rats by giving hormone injections to a pregnant rat at a particular time of the gestation period. They appear to have 95% success inducing homosexual behavior in rats. This suggests male homosexuality might be caused by hormone fluctuations in the pregnant mother. Diet might have something to do with it. Sorry, I forgot which publication I read.

  139. Anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist

    Parents are not powerless to stop it. Instead they are either intellectually corrupt, cynical, delusional or outright lazy to counter progressive dribble.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  140. Homosexuality is disgusting and the push for globohomo is revolting.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  141. @Wizard of Oz

    Wow! I have to agree again. I believe that the choice of restrooms should be determines by the equipment you have, regardless of how you feel. Say, if I say that I feel like a dog, the police won’t take it as an excuse for peeing in the street.

  142. @sally

    I do not believe propaganda is protected speech or even speech, under the Constitution? Instead I argue it is fraud. and that it should be prosecuted a fraud

    I understand what you are trying to say, but sociopaths have always used language as fraud–always.

    The concept of the first amendment was to prevent censorship by the sociopaths of everyone else.

    We can’t stop the sociopaths from lying but there are things that can be done:

    –Vigorous antitrust action against any large “communications” companies (today that would include any large Silicon Valley company). They need to be broken up into tiny pieces, and the television “networks” need to be abolished.

    –Banning censorship or attempts to punish speech by any large organization (as well as government entities all the way down to school districts).

    Bad speech is not the biggest problem–censorship and punishment for speaking the truth is the problem that needs to be addressed.

    • Replies: @sally
  143. @Colin Wright

    We don’t need euphemisms, we should call a spade a spade. But if we discard both PC BS and religious zeal and stick to a purely scientific view, homosexuality and bestiality are mental disorders, like schizophrenia. If everything is by consent, that’s their business, although mental disorder is nothing to be proud of. To see what I mean, just imagine a schizophrenia pride parade. But the society has a perfect right and an obligation to protect normal people from mentally deranged and otherwise afflicted. Every condition requires certain limitations. It is not discrimination, it’s pure protection of the rest of society. Say, we don’t let blind people drive cars or fly planes.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  144. Virgile says:

    Some of these comments are very sad to read as they depict a blind rejection of a phenomenon found in our society for thousands of years to which there has never been a convincing explanation.
    Resorting to demeaning insults toward human beings affected by one of nature’s oddities only shows immaturity and inhumanity.

    I wish none of the author of these comments has a gay child. They would probably reject him/her or kill him/her as they do in some backward countries.

  145. @Robert Dolan

    Homosexuality is just a mental disease, like schizophrenia. We should follow a simple rule “if you don’t approve of abortions, don’t have one”. If it’s disgusting to you, don’t do it. Like one of my male colleagues said, “if I were a trans-sex, I’d be a lesbian: the thought of another male is disgusting”. The push for globohomo is a different thing: politically motivated abomination, like propaganda of “exceptional” and “indispensable” nation.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Anounder
  146. @TKK

    Practice. Active gay men are less afraid of sex.

    • Replies: @Anon
  147. Anon[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @paulll

    If a man wearing a dress and makeup upsets you, you are not just a homophobe, but an example of human depravity

    Notice the manner in which communists are required to invert reality and its traditional morality to justify their idiosyncratic and ahistorical views.

    Multi-culturalism is a very good idea. Tolerance is a very good idea. Globalism is a very good idea. Human rights is a very good idea. In fact, these ideas and many more are essential to a better human future, to any human future.

    You can’ prove any of that bullshit. In fact, observable reality rebuts it on every count. You are merely trained to have a positive emotional reaction to certain words, either because you are soft minded or you directly benefit. We could have had a rational international “human rights” policy, but communists have decided to use it to dispossess the West. Therefore, it too will one day not even be a memory.

    The West would thrive without your degenerate agenda. Without it we wouldn’t be evolving into the moral, cultural, and civilizational laughing stock of not just the first world, but of the world, that it is. Headed for scheduled oblivion, as planned. read the Bible that has been the foundation of the West for the past 2k years.

    Let’s attack the way good ideas are manipulated, not the good ideas themselves.

    If here is no practical difference, then there is no practical difference.

    Queer people are good people.

    Not in my experience.

    Embracing diversity isn’t just a good idea. It’s the right thing to do

    “Allowing yourself to be geopolitically dispossessed and your race and culture eradicated isn’t just a good idea, its the right thing to do”.

    Your false moralizing has no credibility nor impact. Once again, observable reality shines a light on the bankrupt morality of those trying to now dictate it.

    Given that your contingent’s mission is to invert traditional human morality, you have no legitimate moral platform from which to dictate morality. You and yours are quintessentially immoral and depraved, to use the word that you tried to laughably co-opt in your sad attempt to invert reality.

  148. Anon[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @Deschutes

    No one likes faggots, as almost universally they have personality disorders. Not even other faggots.

    Traditional society wasn’t idiotic. It knew. People were much less insulated from high stakes losses in the social sphere. All manner of people that were once kept to the periphery were kept there for good reasons that today still exist.

    What is idiotic is thinking that society has discovered uncovered wisdom instead of regressed, or that your little hissy fit using meaningless labels reads like anything but a queen in a typically histrionic fit.

  149. Anon[412] • Disclaimer says:
    @Deschutes

    There is no excuse for banning a gay pride parade.

    Sure there is. The gay pride parade is no more than three things:

    1. An effort to create political power for yet another invented identity group that stands in opposition to the institutions and morality of traditional society (majority interests being de facto more important than minority interests),

    2. an invented excuse for all manner of sexual degeneracy in public, and

    3. to throw it in the face of normal people, variously looking to shock and flaunt power. There is no “lets celebrate heterosexual fucking” parade. The gay pride parade is an abnormal public display of sexuality.

    If homosexuals wanted to create and maintain an openly accepted space for themselves in society, they’d quietly accept their freedoms like everyone else and be happy with them. Thus maintaining them and never giving society an excuse to revert.

    Instead, like every other identity group whose agenda is not just parallel rights but to conquer broader society and its institutions: they are going to ramp everything up to 11 and keep pushing until there is an inevitable and decisive pushback by society. At that point, homosexual rights will be absolutely crushed back to the stone age. Mark my words.

    There is no majority future for homosexuals, however unfortunate for them. Many of us are born with obstacles. To act like reality will ever be different for them is to assure their own eventual oppression in a manner that modern people are not accustomed.

  150. Anon[175] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Lauritsen

    Practice. Active gay men are less afraid of sex.

    I’ve heard a variety of homosexual rationalizations over the years. But that one is tops for entertainment and delusion.

    As if homosexuals can turn on the attraction, in this case for a female, that surpasses that of a heterosexual male and is the cornerstone of a good interaction.

    You have convinced yourself that heterosexual males are “afraid” of sex because you can’t fathom why else they wouldn’t want to fuck a man.

    You morons are always your own worst enemy in the social sphere, but I also know that you can’t help it as part of your personality disorder spectrum.

    Thanks, yet again, for affirming what I know about faggots: they most often live in an invented reality that allows them every excuse to justify and even elevate their unnatural depravity. Invented realities breed personality disorders.

    Once you are forced to invent your own morality to allow yourself to be satisfied sexually, a host of social distortions is always to follow: including invented idiosyncratic social norms and expectations.

    Which leads to a failure to meet actual norms and expectations within the social sphere (a hallmark of sociopathy.

    Except in the instances when faggots are imagining and striving for their social climb and therefore try their hardest to act normally. But they are always found out and mostly marginalized, as no one likes sociopaths and sociopaths have no idea how to be normal.

    Or, as sociologist and Penn professor Paul Fussell astutely put it:

    If social climbing, whether in actuality or in fantasy, is well understood, social sinking is not, although there’s more of it going on than most people notice. Male homosexuals and lesbi- ans, respectively, exemplify these two opposite maneuvers. Am- bitious male homosexuals, at least in fantasy, aspire to rise, and from humble origins to ascend to the ownership of antique busi- nesses, art galleries, and hair salons. The object is to end by frequenting the Great. They learn to affect elegant telephone voices and gravitate instinctively toward “style” and the grand.

    The ultimate male-homosexual social dream is to sit at an elegant dinner table, complete with flowers and doilies and finger bowls, surrounded by rich, successful, superbly suited and gowned, witty, and cleverly immoral people.

  151. Tsigantes says:

    In the 1920s Andre Gide stated that the only true avant garde position for 20th century men was homosexuality. He was the first self proclaimed homosexual to receive the Nobel prize for literature, awarded in recognition of his avant garde-isme, for his body of work was built around the rejection of religious, familial, social, sexual and political norms. Sound familiar?

    The following quick summary of Gide’s life shows that this is an old project which has come to mass fruition now:
    Andre Gide Writer and Humanist
    http://andrejkoymasky.com/liv/fam/biog1/gide01.html

    This suggests that the LGBTQIAPK+ is a logical end point of so-called Enlightenment “rationalism” , in which vice and anomie magically convert into virtue. As should be clear from its suffix (i.e. -ism)
    rationalism has little relation to logic and absolutely no relation to logos. Rationalism is anti-logos.

  152. “Homosexuality is a phenomenon which has probably always existed and which has often polarized society into two camps: those who believe that there is something inherently bad/wrong/pathological/abnormal with homosexuality (probably most/all major religions) and those who emphatically disagree”

    ((They)Live) will soon be working on us to accept Beastiality as normal. The movie “Shape of Water”
    being the vehicle whereby Beastiality will be shown to impressionable young and old people.

    Sodom and Gomorrah is more than just a warning from the past.

  153. Okechukwu says:

    Indeed:

    • Agree: Truth
    • Replies: @Paul C.
    , @Anon
  154. Here- Here! Well said Jim, thanks.

  155. @Virgile

    Well, most of commenters are, from what I’ve seen if judging from public personae, good people. Just-nuances are not their strong suit.

    Actually, the whole area of sexuality is controversial & full of sound & fury. For instance, this female teacher, 28, got 20 years prison time for shagging with a 13 years old boy. Opinions on the sentence are highly polarized.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/ex-arizona-teacher-sentenced-to-20-years-in-prison-for-sex-with-student

    Ex-Arizona teacher sentenced to 20 years in prison for sex with student

    Then, Israel’s Netanyahu did not have much choice (or luck) with some newly appointed ministers. Elections have consequences.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/14/middleeast/israel-conversion-therapy-intl/index.html


    Israeli Cabinet minister suggests gay conversion therapy ‘is possible’

    I guess opinions on these matters will remain sharply different….

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
  156. peterAUS says:
    @animalogic

    I wasn’t talking about homosexuals.
    The “target audience” for this insanity is the predominantly White middle, working, and underclass in Western society.
    This….thing….is really just contemporary version of O’Brien’s game on Winston about ‘how many fingers you see”.
    You know what was O’Brien achieving there?

    Hahaha….a the end “we” will LOVE Black Transgender as the President of USA, have our daily meal of cabbage and cheap liquor and be happy.
    At least something like that is the plan.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  157. anonymous[681] • Disclaimer says:

    The Saker could have avoided the race baiting by referring to an equally doped up white woman;

    https://sputniknews.com/viral/201905281075423511-tennis-player-biceps-power/

    Heck, even the actions and biceps of both, er women, look amazingly similar.

    Shame, Saker.

    • Disagree: Cloudbuster
    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  158. Art says:

    Where would the world be without Michelangelo, Oscar Wilde, Cole Porter, and Yves Saint-Laurent? Without question – a whole lot poorer. Well beyond their numbers, homosexuals have contributed greatly to human culture.

    Beating up homosexuals for sport and forcing them to hide themselves is clearly wrong. With that said, the pendulum has swung to far with the LGBTQIAPK+ phenomena. The idea that a LGBTQIAPK+ life is a normal way of living on par with heterosexual living is false. It should not have to be said, that the heterosexual life is the ideal normal life – it is the life prescribed by nature to advance humanity into the future. The LGBTQIAPK+ life is something less.

    Only a man and a woman can achieve all that is human – their combined different emotions are needed to prosper into the future. Facing the world, a man and a woman make a whole human. The LGBTQIAPK+ human pair are always going to be missing half of the human emotions needed to advance.

    Clearly LGB is a natural happening (2%). But it is not an ideal happening. Most mature homosexuals would choose to be heterosexual.

    TQIAPK+ is an abomination – it is contrived – to alter one’s body is unnatural and unneeded. It is Ok to be an effeminate man or a butch woman – there is zero need to alter one’s body and degrade one’s heath.

    Adults messing around with children’s sexuality is a crime – period. That goes for heterosexuals and homosexuals.

    p.s. Once again we must thank Ron Unz for another ground breaking article – kudos!

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @Malla
  159. @Malla

    RE:

    .. A very thorough analysis by a forensic scientist!

  160. @PeterMX

    In this instance I happen to agree with papa Bloom’s verdict on Proust in “Western Canon”:

    There is no subtler ironist than Proust in our century, and his novel’s mythological likening of Jews to homosexuals does not exactly dispraise either group. Proust was neither an anti-Semite nor a homophobe. His love for his Gentile father was real, but his passion for his Jewish mother was overwhelming, and his love affairs with the composer Reynaldo Hahn and with Alfred Agostinelli, the prototype for Albertine, were very authentic relationships. The refugees from Sodom and Gomorrah are compared by Proust to the Jews of the Diaspora, and more explicitly to Adam and Eve exiled from Eden. J. E. Rivers emphasizes that this parallel of Sodom, Jerusalem, and Eden is at the heart of Proust’s novel and fuses the Jewish power of survival with homosexual endurance throughout the ages, so that both Jews and homosexuals achieve representative status as instances of the human condition since, as Proust says, “the true paradises are the paradises we have lost.”

  161. @peterAUS

    I’ve been saying all the time- you all will be sorry & with wax nostalgic for ordinary gays, after tg train hits the road…

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  162. “Parents are not powerless to stop it. Instead they are either intellectually corrupt, cynical, delusional or outright lazy to counter progressive dribble.”

    Apparently unfamiliar with the current positioning regarding children. The advent of children’s rights has been hijacked by counselors in the educational system. The power of state agencies such as education are empowered to protect a child’s welfare. With the reclassification of homosexual conduct and the volumes of descriptions by the psychiatric professionals (medical) community a child wrestling with their identity and is experiencing psychological trauma can now call upon such professionals to protect their rights regarding how they define their gender. Parental rights is not what it used to be.

    When Gov. Reagan was in office in Ca. voters readily and astutely understood the implications and voted legislation that would prevent those advocates for homosexual conduct and gender reassignment from engaging proselytizing and or advocating for the behavior in academic settings that involved children. They understood the implications and in an attempt to protect their rights as parents and protect their children from undue influence moved to prevent it.

    Governor Reagan thought the measure too extreme and vetoed the law —

    Anyone who thinks that parents are merely weak, stupid, or what have you has little understanding of the sea change that has taken place regarding the protection of children —

    That was in CA more than thirty years ago — it’s no leap of logic to consider what the reality is today across the country in today.s environment. One might also want to consider what is being advocated among educators by the National Academy of sciences. This was one of the areas of concern in supporting the current president’s election – he is on board with the ho,mosexual agenda.

  163. Harbinger says:
    @paulll

    “If a man wearing a dress and makeup upsets you, you are not just a homophobe, but an example of human depravity. The fact that such a demented attitude might be widespread doesn’t make it any less depraved or pathological.”

    Dresses and makeup are the attire of women, to attract men. Somewhat ironic that you’ve called people depraved who point out depravity. Have you even bothered to look at what the definition of depravity actually is? You’ll find that amongst other definitions it’s a perversion. Now, do you know what a perversion is. Again, should you care to look it up, you’ll find it mean abnormal, that is NOT of normal behaviour. Do you know what demented means? It means to be mad or insane, which themselves mean a severely, disordered state of mind. Now, if 99 people out of 100 can see that they’re males and wear male attire and one chooses to wear female attire and women’s makeup, then that clearly fits the description of demented. And again, you finish with pathalogical, which is exactly the behaviour of a man who wears a dress, denying the fact that he is a man instead of a woman.

    I really have no desire of correcting you on your moronic rant, promoting everything that’s destroying the west (many nations after once they have). The fact that there are people like you out there, wallowing in cognitive dissonance, utterly indoctrinated fools, truly beggars belief.

    I just wonder how good you’ll think multiculturalism, diversity and globalism is, when the UK and the rest of the west, is overrun by Muslims, who’ll be picking up your friends in dresses and hanging them off the nearest lampposts. I wonder how you’ll feel when Muslims are grabbing homosexuals and either beheading them in public, dropping a wall on them or throwing them off the cliffs of Dover. I should imagine the lesbians and feminists won’t be too happy when forced to wear Burkhas and be married to a Mullah to pump out babies for him. And there will be no one to defend them will there? You’ve been attacking them from day one, calling them every name under the sun in order to enforce your warped beliefs upon the rest of society.

    Queer people are deeply, deeply disturbed people, living a life of delusion and denial, complete slaves to their depraved, sexual desires. Queers, transgenders and every other gender definition grouping out there are forcing their insanity upon the sane and calling them out as haters and ‘x’phobes for disagreeing.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  164. Correction:

    This was one of the areas of concern in supporting the current president’s election – he is on board with the homosexual agenda.

    —————————————————————–

    “The “target audience” for this insanity is the predominantly White middle, working, and underclass in Western society.”

    Well, that may be but that argument is being made largely whites. And every major legislation that has upended the traditional view has been by the advocacy of white professionals: educators, doctors, lawyers and legislators. The constant hyper-focus on blacks leaves white advocates to continue to be successful in dismantling objective reality.

  165. Anon[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Virgile

    Doesnt orthodox christianity prohibit any oral sex? I have alway had a hard time squaring that w song of solomon.

    • Replies: @Virgile
  166. Dante placed sodomites and usurers as a pair together in the lowest circle of the inferno.

    Why a pair?

    Because sodomy makes what is fertile (sex) sterile while usury (charging any interest at all on a loan) makes what is sterile (gold) fertile. Sodomy and usury are thus the mirror image of each other.

    It is no coincidence that the western world is simutaneously drowning in debt and dying out from a low birth rate.

    The curse of sodomy will be lifted when we return to the teachings of Moses and Jesus who opposed charging interest on loans.

    Since it is now more than 500 years since Christians abandoned the ancient teachings it would be wise for us to restore them with dispatch.

    cf Hoffman: Usury in Christendom

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  167. @Renoman

    There are also plenty of straight men who are into anal intercourse with women. I’ve never quite understood this myself. Even Heartiste seemed to talk it up a lot, as if this act asserts some form of dominance over women that vaginal intercourse doesn’t. Maybe there is something to this, in that it would be less pleasurable for women (especially with them not having a prostate gland that can be stimulated). Regardless, the act is unhygienic and unnatural no matter who is doing it.

    • Replies: @Anounder
    , @dfordoom
  168. @Deschutes

    If someone is transsexual, transgendered etc so what? They simply want to be left alone,

    When they are wanting to use the same bathroom as my wife and daughter, they are not simply wanting to be left alone.
    When they are holding story time at the local library, they are not simply wanting to be left alone.
    When they are demanding the rest of us give into their mental illness and refer to them as the opposite sex, they are not simply being left alone.

    I don’t care what two people voluntarily do sexually, as long as it does not involve kids or household pets. If you want to be painted blue and slapped with a yardstick, go for it. If you want to have congress with a horse, that is your business and maybe it will kick you and break your neck. But I don’t want to see it or have it shoved down my throat. Parading down the street is not simply wanting to be left alone.

  169. peterAUS says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Actually, “we” won’t, if it goes according to plan.

    We will LOVE the Great Leader, have our basic food and shelter in the slum, and a bit of dope and entertainment. We will be content with that.
    Of course, providing we constantly pass the checks that we are on the proper line of feeling and thought. Social …ahm…services will take care of it.
    Occasional beatings by the “other” we’ll accept as normal for the life we lead. You know…as raining.
    I could go on but you get the picture.

    Now I am sure most people feel I am exaggerating a lot. That’s O.K.
    They probably felt the same when 20 years ago some rare people were saying this was coming to pass. Hetero equal to homo enforced by state and accepted by social elites and, apparently, even majority of Western societies.
    Frog and boiling water thing.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  170. eah says:
    @Virgile

    Resorting to demeaning insults toward human beings affected by one of nature’s oddities only shows immaturity and inhumanity.

    I cannot speak for anyone else’s comment — but I think most people are instead fed up with what today is often called “globohomo” — the constant pushing of homosexuality, transgenderism, etc — anyone can see the extent of it has become absurd — it is now even being pushed on children: eg “drag queen” story hours in libraries, hormone therapy for transgender children — all of it is sick — it is all part of a sick agenda.

    Personally I have a “live and let live” attitude about homosexuals — I draw the line at marriage and adopting children: neither should be accepted or allowed — I also dislike, but can tolerate, public physical displays of affection by homosexuals — but if it happens near me, I just get up and leave.

    I think you should direct your complaints in the other direction: toward the people pushing this sick agenda.

    • Replies: @Cal I. Fornier
  171. @peterAUS

    This won’t happen, anytime. Human nature’s plasticity has its limits.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  172. @Gordon Pratt

    Dante placed sodomites and usurers as a pair together in the lowest circle of the inferno.

    Dante was, eh, not very well informed. Because his spiritual guide, Virgil- was a Sodomite.

    • Replies: @Gordon Pratt
    , @Anounder
  173. The endgame has always been about getting your kids. I don’t care how anyone has sex. I do care that our masters are using the letter+ gang to get to pervert the children. Interesting how many gay billionaires are in on it. For the kids , I root for Russia.

  174. @Sterling Archer

    To the extent it matters, the Khachaturyans are not ethnic Russians, but Armenians, to judge by the last name.

    The bigger and more important point is that one case, no matter how scandalous, signifies nothing.
    To draw a line from legal eforms to the death of the per Khachaturyan is a waste of time.

  175. peterAUS says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I hope you are right.

    I think, though, that some version of the current Indian society is the likely final outcome, should things go as they do. With some Brasilian elements thrown in the mix.Ah, yes, and South African too, especially for my breed.

    There is one, say, x-element there which could jam a spanner in that drive. Just one.

    Something like that.

  176. Icy Blast says:

    Saker, juxtaposing photographs of Maria Sharapova and Venus Williams is a hate crime! Do you realize what you’ve done? You are in serious trouble now.

    • Replies: @Paw
  177. Willow says:

    The American dream is dead. Millennials can’t afford to buy a home, let alone raise a family. Unionized manufacturing family wage jobs that built the middle class are gone and aren’t coming back. How to thwart a revolution from the new generation of millennial have nots? Brainwash them to accept alternate non-reproductive lifestyles as the cool new normal. No need for a house with a yard for kids. Living in a tiny-house (a trailer ffs) is being marketed to millennials as the new normal. LBTQXYZ whatever is thinly disguised population control of the low wage feeder/breeders.

    • Agree: Iris
  178. @anonymous

    She still looks good. In contrast, Serena looks like a hairless gorilla or Mike Tyson after a sex change.

    • Replies: @Truth
  179. ““Exceedingly rich, white men with enormous cultural influence…”

    Proceeds to name mostly jewish men…

  180. All I’ve seen is tired old stuff. Absolutely nothing new. Alright, let’s try something non-trivial….

    1. homosexuals are here to stay, as they’ve been with us from the beginning of time. It seems that most classical civilizations (Sumer, Babylonia, Egypt, China, India, Greece, old Americas,..) didn’t even possess “binary” concepts we all use. And the presence of this type of behavior had had nothing to do with civilizational flourishing & decline

    2. they are a minority- but, how many of them are out there, anyway? I don’t know. I think this is unanswerable. As a rule of thumb, we can accept 1-2% for gays & half of that for lesbians. But- I’m puzzled. Homo behavior is so strange to me, a mystery I can’t decipher. I can accept they are attracted to the same sex, so I’m OK with “natural-born” homos (alteration in brain formation during gestation), but:

    a) I don’t get why otherwise straight people go gay in prison. To me- it is unthinkable. Yet, this is rather trivial. Freud may have been, after all, right when he was talking about “polymorphous perversity”. Perhaps male brain is innately perverse, at least for a non-negligible percent. As for females-they are confused sex/gender. For virtually all straight men, it is impossible to go gay after, say, 10-20 years of marriage (without prior conscious repression); for women, it is perfectly possible to switch to lez just like that, after divorce & 2 kids, having no history of desire for the same sex.

    Women are both confused & a mystery.

    b) it is a mistake to equate (male) homos only with extravagant promiscuity & sexual obsession. A part of them is super-Babylonian in excess; on the other hand, many are more or less not a big deal in that department. And why reduce them to sex only? They are perfectly capable of love, sometimes more than ordinary men. Lesbians too.

    c) they are not “sick” in ordinary usage of that word.

    d) I don’t believe in Big Fag Conspiracy to undermine Western civilization (after all, many of them have been builders of that very civilization). All hullabaloo about their “marriage” is actually irrelevant (their “marriage” is great for tasteless jokes). The problem is in the collapse of male-female normal family structure & female refusal to have children -and this has nothing to do with gays. I am convinced that most-say, more than 80-90%- women are incomplete without pregnancy & children. Some , 5-15% are not, but they have other reasons (male brain, health issues, …). In short- there is a maternal instinct, while there is no paternal instinct, just genuine paternal feeling. Men create civilization, while women create- life. Artificial wombs, even if completely possible, would destroy human civilization. Nuclear normal family is the basis of all civilization.

    Homo family is an irrelevant side-show (perhaps crucial for lesbians, but basically marginal for most/many male homos).

    e) homos are not just effeminate; there is a history of extreme male aggressiveness & sadism associated with militarism & murderousness (elite troops in Greece, Ottoman Empire, SA & not infrequently SS). In fact, Hugo Boss’ design for SS uniforms is uber-gay stylish exhibitionism realized

    To reduce homosexuals to extreme sexual behavior is one-dimensional & basically stupid; to think they are something less than fully human & the cause of weaknesses of Western civilization is plain dumb.

    My favorite sage Tricky Dick Nixon was wrong when he said that strong societies like USSR ruthlessly suppress gays & therefore survive. Well- stronk USSR collapsed & “gay” USA is still here.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  181. astro3 says:

    I suggest Saker should have commented upon the life-expectancy difference. It used to be the case that homosexuals had a 20 year shorter life expectancy, for a fairly obvious biological reason concerning the human posterior; but that now ‘modern medicine has reduced this difference. Is that so?

  182. slorter says:

    The conflict is deliberate!

    the established elite 1% call them what you want encourage racism, misogyny, homophobia and other forms of bigotry. Why? Bigotry among the general population distracts them, and keeps them from recognizing their common interests to sustain a better future for their communities.

    It is a strategy among many others like keeping wages low, or debt pressure high, which means workers will be less likely to complain or make demands. As workers struggle to provide their families with all the temptations that a capitalist society offers, they become far less likely to risk their employment, and less able to improve their situation.

    This self honored group oppose a woman’s right to choose. Why? Unwanted children are an economic burden that put poor women “over a barrel”, forcing them to work cheap.

    This self honored group bray about “morality”, “virtue”, “respect for authority”, “hard work” and other “values”. Why? So they can blame your being “over a barrel” on your own “immorality”, lack of “values” and “poor choices”. It however does not apply to them!

  183. Rich says:
    @Virgile

    Seems to be some kind of homosexual legend that that homosexuals were “persecuted” because of religion. Religious arguments have often been used, but for the most part, men, and most women, find the idea of two hairy men grunting and rolling around together, disgusting. I’m not disgusted because the Bible tells me to be, I’m disgusted because the primary act of one man engaging in anal intercourse with another man makes me want to vomit. Two muscle bound guys holding hands and skipping down the street is disturbing, and two guys needing a shave kissing on the lips is grotesque. Normal folks, those the elites can’t brainwash, are nauseated by this stuff.

    • Replies: @Virgile
  184. Truth says:
    @Markster

    As for the Williams girl, I have to say I do like her but then again as a boy I always enjoyed trips to the zoo and the monkeys and gorillas were always my special cages !

    Then you ain’t gonna like this…

  185. annamaria says:
    @ben sampson

    Serena Williams and steroids:

    In 2016, Williams was revealed to have received several Therapeutic Use Exemptions (TUEs) from the ITF. http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2018/07/serena-williams-drug-testing-tues-theraputic-use-discrimination/75548/

    ‘Do You See How She Looks?’ – Nastase Accuses Serena Williams Of Doping: https://www.ubitennis.net/2017/03/see-looks-nastase-accuses-serena-williams-doping/

    Nastase [the former world No.1] named Serena Williams as somebody who is apparently ‘pretty clear’ to have doped. His controversial comments come as Maria Sharapova nears the end of her 15-month suspension for failing a drugs test. The Russian hasn’t played a match since the 2016 Australian Open after testing positive for Meldonium.

    “Russia’s image when it comes to sport suffered a lot because of doping, but it’s pretty clear in Serena’s case as well. Don’t you see how she looks like?

    “Is Serena Williams on steroids?:” https://www.quora.com/Is-Serena-Williams-on-steroids

    Serena was one of the players (including Venus Williams, Jennifer Capriati and Lindsey Davenport) who protested against the WTA’s new drug testing rules in 2000 which led to the cancellation of WTA’s off-season testing program too.

    She [Serena Williams] has protested vociferously against any attempts made by the WTA/ITF to make testing more rigorous and stringent. She once reportedly declared that “women don’t need to be tested because women don’t take steroids”. She also raised similar objections before the 2004 Olympics in Athens until the WTA gave in. However, the IOC did not and Williams ended up withdrawing from the games citing “terrorism fears” in Greece!

    A number of critics have pointed to Serena’s body and muscle size to allege use of steroids.

    • Replies: @ben sampson
  186. Truth says:
    @John Lauritsen

    There is no contradiction. If anything, a male’s ability to have sex with another male enhances his ability to have sex with a female.

    I don’t need no help with that Dawg.

  187. Truth says:
    @Fool's Paradise

    It’s obvious that no born-straight male can be persuaded or forced to engage in sex with another man.

    Oh that’s not true Old Sport.

    By my personal, non-scientific calculations, I would say that 60% of “men” above an astronomic level of power, wealth or fame in this world, are have been “persuaded” to do just that. In other words, your “alphas”, or anyone you grew up idolizing is a homo. they have no choice.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=38&v=dPb-PN9F2Pc

    The other 40%, well, they don’t have a “Y” Chromosome, but that’s a subject for another post.

    • Replies: @Fool's Paradise
    , @Anon
  188. annamaria says:
    @Deschutes

    “if a gay pride parade is banned, that is discrimination and that is what they’ve done in Moscow and countless other Russian cities…”

    Any thoughts about the ZUSA’s bestest friend Saudi Arabia?

    Six United Nations member states impose the death penalty for consensual same-sex acts – Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Nigeria, Sudan and Somalia.

    Why don’t you, “Deschutes,” send your protestations to the United Nations?
    You could also denounce the friendships and cooperation between the US and Saudi Arabia and between the Jewish State and Saudi Arabia.
    “Israel and Saudi Arabia: The relationship emerging into the open”: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43632905
    https://thehill.com/opinion/international/379542-saudi-arabia-is-a-critical-american-security-partner-in-the-middle-east

    • Replies: @Fool's Paradise
  189. Truth says:
    @Paul C.

    You are correct, except for one small thing; they are ALL trannies, including the so-called, sexy Slovenians types that have caused so many Unzistas to lick copies of Sports Illustrated magazine at the 7-11 for the last 15 years; unless of course you somehow believe that a 140 lb. Slav is somehow able to defeat a 5’11 175 lb. JC Cornerback in two tournaments out of three….

    • Replies: @Silva
  190. Truth says:
    @Anon

    No natural White woman is as masculine looking as the Williams sisters. They aren’t trans, they’re Black with the higher testosterone count that goes with it.

    How about this one?

  191. Truth says:
    @Anon

    So you’re saying you only lust after white dudes.

    Hey, it’s a free country Old Sport.

  192. Truth says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Like one of my male colleagues said, “if I were a trans-sex, I’d be a lesbian: the thought of another male is disgusting”.

    Yeah, but probably somewhat preferable to cutting your hoo-haa off.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  193. Truth says:
    @Priss Factor

    …Well then again, you are of the homosexual persuasion, Old Sport. One would be much better advised to consult your advise if he were redecorating his living room…

    And by the way, gorillas have whitish skin, and dark fur.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @Okechukwu
  194. George says:

    There are now tests for ‘doping’, no need to speculate. A more plausible accusation would be in the less sophisticated past Williams was doped up but when testing became more efficient she stopped doping while maintaining her exercise regimen and size.

    Halep actually looks equally muscular in many pics.

    A curiosity is Williams never had surgery to reduce her massive breasts like Halep did. Did Halep make a mistake?

  195. @anonymous

    Can you define the word “one?”

    Can you define the word “trinity?”

    If not, how do know they are an oxymoron?

    You assertion may not be so lucky as you suppose.

  196. dfordoom says: • Website
    @TKK

    Male sodomy is repellent.

    I otherwise agree with your comment but can you explain your reference male sodomy? I’m assuming you’re saying that homosexual sodomy is repellant. But heterosexual sodomy is just as repellant, just as disgusting and just as perverted. And just as harmful.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  197. @Truth

    Can’t imagine a mentally normal male doing either.

  198. Happy Fiftieth “Easy Rider.”

    Take the world in a love embrace.

  199. @annamaria

    Illie Nastatse..Nasty? give me a break please. has he finally disappeared trying to use the Williams for some late notoriety.

    you behave as if Serena has total control of Tennis and its authorities. I don’t think so..not possible. if Serena was a druggie she would have long been tossed. and it would have been impossible to keep hidden. nothing stays hidden unless you do it alone, you put blinders on your shadow and never ever utter a semblance of clue in the public

    Imagine the journo who discovers such ‘truth’ about Serena?

    from all I have gathered the Williams sisters are full females, heterosexual..love men..especially Venus. and she likes them younger and fit, strong… and for some reason white?

    man! do I ever wish I was there to try and convince her differently..even to get there. Venus is terrific..6 feet plus, all slim, model shape, skin Black and smooth as silk..and cool too I bet. the skin of Black women is cool and peaceful, never get hot, even on a warm day.

    the impression I get is that when white guys discover Black women and their pluses that’s it…they aint leaving.

    Muscles bussles..Serena is not a user of steroids. she is not a tranny or lesbian. neither is Venus

    Serena is getting beat because she is old for tennis, aging. I bet against last year..and this year too..and won big money yesterday. I bet against her despite my real love and appreciation for her, Serena..a fine woman and person. she is married and started a family. you can have no idea how happy I am over that development.

    Venus now next..but she appears to love to play the field

    I bet a lot..and win a lot especially horses with this age thing. a 37 year old former champion will hardly ever defeat a coming champion..or a championship class player.. in the finals of a tourney..especially one like Wimbledon. it simple does not happen..youth always prevails, white Black or pink. all people are capable..even whites.

    hahahahaha

    • Replies: @annamaria
  200. Toby says:
    @nickels

    I would be interested in examples of societies destroyed by homosexuality

  201. Dmitry says:

    Saker’s “knowledge” about Russia seems based more on internet memes, rather than any life experience. Also I am not sure about the relevance of Russia to this topic.

    Anyway there can be indeed a bit of cultural difference in relation to sexual minorities, between Western Europe vs. Russia/Ukraine/Belarus. However, a lot of it has just been exaggerated recently for political marketing.

    1. Proportion of gays between Russia/Ukraine/Belarus, and Western Europe – will almost certainly be the same. (And even e.g. over representation of gays in entertainment industry, is the same in Russia as in Western Europe). Sexual minorities live normal lives in Russia,* without any particular discrimination.

    2. Cultural difference is that in Russia/Ukraine/Belarus, gays are supposed to maintain their romantic life private, whereas in Western Europe it recently became fashionable for gay to boast about their sexuality for political points. It’s still more common to condemn or insult gays (not that this is polite or civilized to do), compared to Western Europe.

    Basically, there is more free speech on this topic, including to insult gays (sexual minorities are not a “protected class” like in Europe).

    3. Crazy new religion of LGBT pride has not arrived yet in Russia, while in bourgeois parts of Western European it has become common in the last few years.

    Simply, the situation in relation to sexual minorities in Russia, is more or less the same as it was in Western Europe in the 1980s or maybe even 1990s.

    In the Cold War, there was not any argument about this topic, because the USSR and the West, were more or less the same, culturally, in their treatment of sexual minorities. All that changed is the Western view, since the 1990s.


    *At least Kirkorov is not complaining

  202. @Justvisiting

    “Punishment of those who disobey is part of the toolkit of every cult.”

    Especially the cult of government. Government lovers are getting exactly what they deserve – payback. Too bad the animal world has wired most all of H. sapiens to obey their lord’s and masters in government.

    “Everything government touches turns to crap.” Ringo Starr

    Untold suffering and death and destruction and theft and the typical idiot still says: “Gotta have me some government!”. The irony is those people think that they are ‘good’ people and are going to heaven some day.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  203. IvyMike says:

    I enjoy the Saker and have great respect for his education, insights, and writing. Well thought out article, well presented, but an absolute snooze. Hope to see more engaging ‘stuff’ in the future…

  204. @Truth

    Now, in this you are wrong: all apes have dark skin. Fur can be different: Irish-red in orangs, darkish in our cousins chimps and bonobos, darkish in gorillas, except mature alpha-males, where it is grey (silver-backs).

    • Replies: @Dmitry
  205. @AnonFromTN

    ‘…Say, we don’t let blind people drive cars or fly planes.’

    Ahem. The ‘vision challenged,’ not ‘blind.’ I suppose you’d call the retarded ‘idiots.’

    Anyway, it’s a sightest canard that the blind can’t fly airplanes. In fact, they’re more prepared for ‘blind’ flight conditions. I hope you’re not planning to inquire as to whether your pilot is vision challenged. That’d be like wondering if your surgeon was black.

    What’s your address, anyway? I think we need to send some antifas to beat the hate out of you.

    • Replies: @Paw
    , @Bill Jones
  206. Dmitry says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Their skin is light under fur, however. Precisely, because they have so much fur.

    It’s the same reason your cat has light skin under its fur (because fur blocks UV).

    So when orangutans are shaved, their skin is light underneath:

  207. @Bardon Kaldian

    Dante hailed from Florence where the de Medici banking family ruled and male prostitutes plied their trade with a license from the state.

    It is unlikely Dante was “not very well informed” on the connection between usury and sodomy.

  208. @Bardon Kaldian

    In the case of the Arizona female teacher, the aggravating factors were: the victim was a minor, the perpetrator was in a position of trust/authority/professional relationship with the victim, the offense occurred at the site of that professional relationship, she inviegled another boy to watch for intruders(but he likely “watched” something else, and so would soon be a future victim), she sent a minor nude photos of herself, had sex with a minor in public(in her car). Gawd, that female teacher was stupid. The parents wanted a maximum sentence, if the Fox News article is accurate, 20 years was the mandatory minimum. Life in all its absurd, tragic glory.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  209. @Bardon Kaldian

    You obviously haven’t done enough reading.

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/himmler-speech-on-the-ldquo-question-of-homosexuality-rdquo

    Now if you go and find the full text of the speech you could learn some more.

    And about those ancients:

    https://www.ancient-origins.net/history/homosexuality-ancient-greece-0011232

    You should go back to the library before talking out of your backside.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  210. @Deschutes

    If someone is transsexual, transgendered etc so what? They simply want to be left alone, they are not bothering anybody.

    Want to be left alone? I think most people would leave them alone — they have enough problems living with the trick nature has played on them or they’ve played on themselves. No need to pile on.

    But the “transsexual, transgendered” (what’s the difference? Sorry I’m not up on the latest ideology) won’t leave me alone. I have to see, hear, and read about them practically every time I go to a news site, be told I’m an old stick-in-the-mud if I don’t get with the program and “celebrate” their physiological and psychological dysfunction. Don’t virtue-signal your oddity, don’t push my sympathy buttons and you freaks can be left alone all you want.

  211. Seraphim says:
    @Malla

    As the Prophet Isaiah said:

    “Woe to those who draw iniquity with cords of deceit and pull sin along with cart ropes, 19to those who say, “Let Him hurry and hasten His work so that we may see it! Let the plan of the Holy One of Israel come so that we may know it! 20Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who turn darkness to light and light to darkness, who replace bitter with sweet and sweet with bitter, 21Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight, 22Woe to those who are heroes in drinking wine, and champions in mixing beer, 23who acquit the guilty for a bribe, and deprive the innocent of justice. 24Therefore, as a tongue of fire consumes straw and dry grass shrivels in the flame, so their roots will decay and their blossoms will blow away like dust; for they have rejected the instruction of the LORD of Hosts and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel”.

    That so much angered the King Manasseh that he ordered that Isaiah be sawn in two.
    “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you”. and crucify.

    • Replies: @Malla
  212. Virgile says:
    @Rich

    Are you also nauseated watching or imagining two naked women caressing each other sexually?

  213. annamaria says:
    @ben sampson

    “hahaha… Serena is not a user of steroids”.

    — Not according to the known facts: http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2018/07/serena-williams-drug-testing-tues-theraputic-use-discrimination/75548/

    In 2016, Williams was revealed to have received several Therapeutic Use Exemptions (TUEs) from the ITF.

    The health problems for which Williams received the TUEs are not publicly known, nor straightforward to establish. Their dates coincided with the week before the 2014 Miami Open, the 2014 Miami Open, the 2014 Madrid Open, the 2014 Italian Open, the week before the 2014 French Open, and 2015 French Open. …

    In addition, Williams had a set of TUEs during the 2014 offseason, even though oral corticosteroids are banned solely for in-competition use.

    • Replies: @ben sampson
  214. JimJim says:

    The Saker is in desperate need of a relentless, merciless editor armed with a really big blue pencil.

  215. Virgile says:
    @Anon

    Christianity have always considered sex as acceptable only for procreation. Sexual pleasure has been considered as a sin for generations and still is for many conservative christians.
    The sexual liberation has opened the door for the search of sexual pleasures in anyways possible and has diminished the influence of the religion.
    We are now in a phase of sexual excesses…

    • Replies: @Anounder
  216. @Renoman

    Straight men do it too, and they stick their dick into blood and piss as well.

    Stay out of our bedrooms and our lives. As a gay man all I want is to be able to live my life normally, not be afraid of holding my boyfriend’s hand in the street, not be afraid of getting fired if my boss finds out I’m gay, being able to adopt kids or do surrogacy and form a family with my partner, and live happily and peacefully. Unfortunately no minority group ever got their rights by staying quiet and obeying what people like you and the author of this propaganda piece would like, so we had to march and make a flag. It worked. Tough luck. It won’t affect your life, other than if you have a gay son (which there is NOTHING you can do to predict or prevent by the way, it’s entirely out of your control) he might be able to live a happy life with more choices than a sham marriage or life as an outcast. Hopefully you will love and accept him.

    The transgender thing is entirely different. I don’t fully understand it myself. I certainly would never ever ever condone giving a child hormones or anything like that. Please don’t lump gay men into that.

  217. Virgile says:

    While I believe the society must accept consensual sex in any form as long as it respect the norms of discretion and respect for the others, I strongly reject minority groups that want to impose their vision of sexuality on the society.
    A minority should be respected but not allowed to impose its tyranny on the majority

    • Replies: @Anounder
  218. dfordoom says: • Website
    @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    As a gay man all I want is to be able to live my life normally, not be afraid of holding my boyfriend’s hand in the street, not be afraid of getting fired if my boss finds out I’m gay, being able to adopt kids or do surrogacy and form a family with my partner, and live happily and peacefully.

    As far as adopting kids is concerned the only issue that matters is the welfare of the kids. And allowing homosexuals to adopt kids is putting those kids in danger of both sexual abuse and serious psychological trauma. Homosexuals should not be able to adopt children for the same reason that rapists and junkies and mentally ill people should not be able to adopt children – the risks to the children are unacceptably high. When it comes to adoption no-one has a “right” to do so – the rights of the children have to be considered.

    And is there some reason why you have to hold your boyfriend’s hand in public? You say you want to be left alone but then you want to flaunt your homosexuality publicly.

    • Agree: Mike P
  219. @Malla

    They are just masculine women. Another “anon” commenter explains it well.

    Michelle’s youngest daughter looks just like her and the other one resembles her too, although she looks more like Barak. Williams just had a baby with her white husband who runs redit.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Malla
  220. @Art

    Art,

    Saker wrote:

    Russia does not tell anybody what they can/cannot or should/should not do in the privacy of their bedrooms and, in fact, homosexuals have their own clubs, bars, websites, organizations, magazines and pretty much everything else all Russians (whether “natural” or not) enjoy.

    And many liberals go along with this not caring what people do in private. Well it started in private and went public to Up Your Alley, Pride Parades, parks at night being off limits to the public as homos take them over and indulge in public sex, homo gangs roaming the streets of Amsterdam kidnapping and drugging heterosexual students then raping them and injecting them with HIV, recruiting through the education system by spreading their propaganda, abolishing laws that punish those that intentionally spread AIDS for murder, etc. Now what if one day people will have had enough of their excesses and say, no, it isn’t right even what they do in private, and burn their venues down with all the demons inside? Whose fault would that be? Things have been known to turn around in the past. Who is to say the imposition of their deviancy, depravity and perversion on the public will continue forever? So it seems now, as the creeps keep creeping on society, but surely a backlash is also a possibility in the future. After all these pervs are a minority and they should never forget that in their quest to dominate the majority.

    • Replies: @Anounder
  221. Truth says:
    @freedom-cat

    Again, my Friend, you must learn to trust your eyes and not your ears…

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  222. Anounder says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Boomers like you aided the fags.

  223. Anounder says:
    @John Lauritsen

    In historical and anthropological perspective, male-to-male sex is an ordinary, healthy part of the human sexual repertoire.

    Tell us more of the glory of pederasty and prison romance.

  224. Anounder says:
    @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    I’m sure you’re proud of your Negro stepson too.

  225. Anounder says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Russia is a degenerate country too. Society needs to be totalitarian to prevent degeneracy shoving itself into the open.

  226. Anounder says:
    @Virgile

    Literally no great and non-degenerate society worked that way.

  227. Paul C. says:
    @Okechukwu

    I agree there are many trans, see my post # 46. However, this picture is doctored. Look at multiple images of her hitting a shot. Arms are much thinner.

    https://thehimalayantimes.com/sports/sharapova-into-last-eight-of-wimbledon-after-downing-battling-diyas/

    • Troll: Okechukwu
    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  228. Anounder says:
    @Virgile

    And now the countries with the Sexual Revolution’s birth are refusing to breed.

  229. Anounder says:
    @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    Your deriding of relations between a man and woman to maintain society speaks more for how the homosexual is hostile to society and has no real loyalty to it.

    Unfortunately no minority group ever got their rights by staying quiet and obeying what people like you and the author of this propaganda piece would like, so we had to march and make a flag. It worked. Tough luck.

    Thanks for showing your ilk are hostile to your host society. Man, the global Caliphate needs to come faster.

    It won’t affect your life, other than if you have a gay son (which there is NOTHING you can do to predict or prevent by the way, it’s entirely out of your control) he might be able to live a happy life with more choices than a sham marriage or life as an outcast. Hopefully you will love and accept him.

    We won’t if we’re not degenerates. You freaks have had plenty of time to show you’re not at war with Straight Whitey and instead you’ve continued to wage war. Save us the Jewish crying in pain as you strike.

  230. Anounder says:
    @Virgile

    Go look up how AIDs is spread. And then look up how even the Greeks found sodomy to be a shameful act to be inflicted on a citizen (slaves and women were ignored since they weren’t citizens).

  231. Anounder says:
    @animalogic

    Show us the gays who advocate segregation.

  232. Paw says:
    @Justvisiting

    Notice for instance ,when a woman takes a dog. Dog immediately instinctively takes the position of the dominant person in any women household. He is pampered and spoiled when there are money.
    At Wimbledon Serena again declared. I never stop, I will fight for equality to my grave.
    I believe there are now so many equalities , beating us over our heads ,daily, with them,now, so many ,that, there is none..
    I observed on many occasions , that the Antiracist are often worse of the previous racists.. On defenceless kids !!
    Outrageous . By their deeds we will recognize them.
    In Australia the original people , Aboriginies were declared the first citizens in the first nation and will rule above all , by placing 10 people in position above the government and parliament..
    What number are now other people of Australia and there are many . And WHY ??

  233. Silva says:
    @Truth

    10:03 – “I didn’t realize being tall was an advantage in tennis.”

    Yes, but that only says something about you.

    • Replies: @Truth
  234. Anounder says:
    @animalogic

    There’s a difference between tolerance & equality & a blank cheque to shove your political points down everyone’s throats in the knowledge that you have weaseled yourself beyond any valid criticism.

    There isn’t in actuality. Society always depends on enforcing behavior on threat of violence. Sodomites are only getting away with their behavior since the state/s refuse to crack down on them and encourages their behavior.

  235. Paw says:
    @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    In my country /Czech, and as in many other countries too/ there were many meetings of European and the world homosexuals /etc./, , they were not noticed as they behave with no provocations ..But not ignored and certainly not discriminated !!.. No one protested. On the contrary..

  236. Anounder says:
    @Virgile

    Those backward countries you speak of actually breed. Your progressive ones don’t.

    Then again, I’m sure you’d accept a mulatto grandson too.

  237. Anounder says:
    @paulll

    The noted poster is proud to have a half-Negro grandson.

  238. Anounder says:
    @animalogic

    Yawn.

  239. Anounder says:
    @TKK

    All sodomy is repellent. If you think doing it with Jennifer Lopez instead of Brad Pitt isn’t then you’re a degenerate.

  240. Paw says:
    @Colin Wright

    And who looking forward to be operated by 90-95 year old surgeon ? From some obscure university ?
    And these politicans love it ,too ? As well as recommend by the laws, piloting the planes by an islamist who must pray until the plane crashes..Well done , anti-discriminators. You first !!

  241. Anounder says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Stop treating homosexuality as a state of being one is “born” as. Treat it as what it is: A collection of dysfunctionality (childhood molestation, manhatred, etc.) that inclines one to reject the other sex.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  242. @Golobki

    Nobody is born anything; sexuality develops later in life. Are those who claim that homosexuals were born that way perhaps trying to imply that babies are gay? Or small children? And the next step is …

  243. Anounder says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    There’s no evidence that Virgil engaged in sodomy. Indeed, all reliable evidence points to the Romans seeing it as a shameful act to perform on a fellow citizen.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    , @Seraphim
  244. Anounder says:
    @Virgile

    Demonstrate that you can maintain a society by being a fag.

  245. Paw says:
    @Icy Blast

    Equality pictured is the crime now ? Equality = hatred ? As they are pictured side by side …Hate crime ? Where is this your crimes ?
    Is your mind Juxtaposed by toxic propaganda and poisonous ideology?

  246. Anounder says:
    @Virgile

    I’ll wait for you to name a great society with accomplishments before modernity that treats homosexuals with the same regard as those who have a woman with children. The Greeks didn’t, the Muslims don’t, none of the Orientals do.

  247. @Truth

    Truth,

    Who are those grown ups in the photos you posted? Not some Moroccan couple whose kids the Obamas adopted, are they?

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Malla
  248. Mulegino1 says:

    Professional spectator sports, for the most part, are a waste of time, money and mental energy which could be used for something physically or culturally productive. Therefore they are one of the perfect venues that the usual tribal suspects can use to manipulate their kosher minded good goyim.

    On the other hand, local amateur sports are useful in many ways, providing a useful point of community interaction and solidarity.

    Lately, the media has chosen to spotlight the very worst of the worst (arguably) female sports figures, like the resentful, sullen and vicious dyke Rapinoe or the poster girl for “groid” rage, Serena. Of course, this is exactly what the entertainment industry has done on an even greater scale- the elevation of the worst and most disgusting and the obscuring of the bright and good. And it is shocking considering that it is a well known and established fact that the churlish and wholesome Amish exercise a preponderant editorial control over media content – in conjunction with Russian Orthodox old believers.

    Whatever Jewry touches to any appreciable degree, it reduces to merde.

  249. Anounder says:
    @Virgile

    I’m glad to see you don’t have any standards for a child to follow. Do you advocate interracial too?

  250. “Boomers like you aided the . . .”

    If you have some evidence about how I aided and abetted such behavior you are welcome to bring it forward.

    Frankly, the choice of expression between consenting adults is generally none of my business. It only becomes my business when the issues are brought to some relevance in the public space

    i.e. marriage legalization, forced agreement that said conduct is acceptable, impositions that others must agree with said behavior . . .

    Beyond that what men and women do as to expression is their business, but that i must condone it or celebrate it in any manner is beyond the pale.
    ——————————-

    At any rate, I am open to reading your support that something I have done advanced this conduct and its advocacy.

  251. @Commentator Mike

    This all runs deeper than usual proclamations.
    http://www.exberliner.com/features/nazi-connections/

    It is beyond dispute that Nazi regime persecuted homosexuals; also, their entire iconography is aesthetic gay paradise & Himmler’s paranoia was entirely justified- uber macho organizations like his SS are naturally a breeding ground for virile homosexuals, as history has shown in many instances, from antiquity through Janissary corps in the Ottoman Empire & numerous Victorian figures, from Rhodes to Kitchener & others.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @Malla
  252. Anounder says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    There are also plenty of straight men who are into anal intercourse with women. I’ve never quite understood this myself. Even

    1. Sadism and/or closet homo.

    2. Negroification/Society getting Jewed Up. Modern “beauty standards” teaches White women to try for bodies like Negro and Mestizo women through exercises, diets, and injections. Negroes and Mestizos focus on the buttocks/thighs since their women’s faces are plain at best. This goes in line with the rise in acceptance of sodomy.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Anonymous
  253. sally says:
    @Justvisiting

    thanks for the reply. and the following is not in opposition to your points, its just more questions..
    I think the constitutional protected speech stands by itself.. speech of any kind is protected, but content in out of context environment ? yell fire in a crowded theatre to be arrested for causing or attempting to cause mayhem or public endangerment .. say in public=> she is a whore, or he has cancer. when damage to the object of the content or even when the content is in a certain context: tort law, right to privacy laws may allow the object of the claim to recover massive in size damages.

    So restraining context and content seem to be possible and to have significant existing precedent. <= restraint on context and content vs constitutional obligation that Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or the Press. Is it possible to attack the constitutionality of government NDA and secrecy agreements (Non disclosure agreements, etc.) on the basis that such agreements, when entered into by government violate the first amendment because they abridge speech or publication? I think Mr. Assauge case is about to test that.

    IANAL.. but seems to me the people angry about misleading propaganda promoted in private media published in public space have not yet exhausted their options. Options which they could easily obtain results with by refusing to elect to congress anyone who does not agree in writing to stop this nonsense.

    this brings up back to court decisins and what or whose interest is being protected: the interest of the governed, the interest of the governors or the interest of a privateer, or the interest of a foreigner or the interest of a foreign government , or the interet of…???

    Mr. Julian Assange is about to challenge the first Amendment.. on the basis that it is in the public interest to know what he published, and the public interest far exceeds the government interest. if he wins that result, neither punishment for crime or no actions for damages would be likely. The agreements he, and everyone else in government, signed were agreements by government that violate, on their face, the first amendment in that they criminalize the expression of speech or publication of the press. Criminalizing the “speech and press environment space” is an infringement.

    It will be interesting see how the court handles this.

  254. Truth says:
    @Silva

    You’ve been wanking looking at dudes in yennis skirts and this is your comment on that video?

    “And other than that Mrs. Kennedy, did,you enjoy the drive?”

  255. Truth says:
    @Commentator Mike

    No, two of the Obama’s best friends…and the woman is the doctor who “delivered” the “girls” (to their doorstep).

  256. Okechukwu says:
    @Truth

    And by the way, gorillas have whitish skin, and dark fur.

    And thin lips, a pronounced brow ridge, straight stringy hair, excessive body hair (fur), long torso/short legs, etc. These are all Europeanized phenotypes.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Anon
  257. @Bardon Kaldian

    There’s also the book “The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party” by Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams, 1995 that covers much of the same ground. Mind you I haven’t read it.

    • Replies: @Malla
  258. @Bombercommand

    She’s evidently nuts. But, who on this earth, really thinks that the boy’s life is “ruined” because he banged his teacher. What if the teacher was a man, and “victim” a girl?

    Double standards?

    You bet, double standards should reflect life’s realities.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  259. Seraphim says:
    @Anounder

    Romans had the ‘Lex Scantinia de nefanda venere’ punishing ‘Stuprum cum masculo (or in puero)’ since the second century BC and passed in all subsequent Roman laws and legislations derived from the Roman Law, despite the desperate attempts of the LGBT+++ ‘historians’ to deny or to extenuate its provisions.

  260. @Anon

    Some parents are lazy, some are powerless, some are activists, and some are overwhelmed by the lobby….

    “A father has attacked a controversial transgender children’s charity for ‘meddling’ in a dispute over whether his five-year-old son should wear a dress to school….

    Mermaids allegedly told school staff they would be guilty of discrimination if they did not let the boy wear a girl’s uniform – something the father claims left the school feeling intimidated….

    The incident raises new questions about the charity – which has advised schools, the NHS and the Crown Prosecution Service on transgender issues – even though it has no official status and was started by a group of parents in 1995.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3883880/Parents-bitter-battle-child-s-gender-Father-brands-controversial-transgender-charity-meddlers-case-mother-dressing-son-five-girl.html

  261. Rich says:
    @Virgile

    No. But I’m really not a fan of the insane women who try to act like tough men by acting exageratedly masculine. They are usually even crazier than the exageratedly feminine males one often comes across.

  262. Malla says:
    @freedom-cat

    There is this theory that ((they)) have been secretly promoting transexual celebs to skrew up our minds. I have a feeling this to be true though I am not sure yet. It seems this phenomenon has penetrated other countries as well such as in Bollywood in India.

  263. Malla says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    their entire iconography is aesthetic gay paradise

    How?

  264. @Drapetomaniac

    Untold suffering and death and destruction and theft and the typical idiot still says: “Gotta have me some government!”. The irony is those people think that they are ‘good’ people and are going to heaven some day.

    The antidote for the cult of government–

    Lysander Spooner:

    http://praxeology.net/LS-NT-6.htm

    That is a book that will _never_ be on a public school reading list–one reason why most public school grads leave as drooling idiots. 🙁

  265. Malla says:

    Homosexuality is not natural in nature not only because of it leading to a Darwinistic dead end but because in some study of Papuan tribes it was completely absent. I think things like homosexuality and masturbation evolved as humans became more civilised and thus many civilisations had to make laws supressing these actions. Laws common in traditional Christian and Islamic societies for example.
    However the best solution to homos in my opinion is not the Islamic solution of throwing them off buildings but the Hindu solution we have for transexuals hijras.
    In Hindu society you can engage in all deviant behaviour as you want (hijras, smoking pot in the name of Shiva) but you have to live separate from normal society. Normal mainstream society is never allowed to be affected one bit. So the best solution is to make special areas for homos and lesbos, they live there free and happy but they cannot force their ways on normal heterosexual societies. No public displays of affection outside their areas, no gay pride parades. At the same time normal heterosexual society does not attack them, does not make fun of them and just leaves them alone to live their lives. And if traditional Christian churches are reluctant to wed them they can create their own homo church or just get wed by the state.

  266. SOCRATES says: • Website
    @Carlos675

    Homosexuality is possibly generated by endocrine disruptions

    https://www.naturalnewsblogs.com/chemically-altered-homosexuality/

    Hence Giant Pharma most likely involved
    Hence the silence on how they are MUTATING Society

  267. @annamaria

    I can’t think of a single instance where men were put to death in Saudi Arabia for consensual sex, and I lived there on and off for a decade. It’s a common sight, Saudis walking along holding hands. Yemenis, too, who come by the thousands to work. Never a man and woman, though. Those men are not homosexuals, just friendly. When I was a teacher there (all male students, no females!), my students would take my hand and walk me down to the teahouse during breaks. Since young men can’t date or even associate with females until parents choose him a mate, some of them turn to each other for sex, a passing phase abandoned when married. Men are put to death, but not for homosexuality. I once witnessed an execution (of a murderer) by a sword stroke to the back of the neck. These executions are public, always occurring around noon when prayer in the mosque is over. I also saw three men stoned for raping a woman, which I describe in my book whose title is the same as my moniker here on this Unz site.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  268. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Indeed my good man but this means Google AI is not so smart. Maybe the AI needs some lessons from the renowned anthropologist Ochwuku.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/07/01/google-apologizes-after-photos-identify-black-people-as-gorillas/29567465/

    Google Photos labeled black people ‘gorillas’

    “The mistakes are made because algorithms, smart as they are, are terrible at making actual sense of pictures they analyze. Instead of “seeing” a face, algorithms identify shapes, colors, and patterns to make educated guesses as to what the picture might actually be. This works wonderfully for inanimate objects or iconic things like landmarks, but it’s proven to be a sticking point for people of color time and time again.”

    Embarrassed Jewgle tried its best to solve the problem but the AI is quite stubborn. So after two years of trying

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/12/google-racism-ban-gorilla-black-people

    Google’s solution to accidental algorithmic racism: ban gorillas
    “Google’s ‘immediate action’ over AI labelling of black people as gorillas was simply to block the word, along with chimpanzee and monkey, reports suggest”

    Two years later, Google solves ‘racist algorithm’ problem by purging ‘gorilla’ label from image classifier
    LOL.
    Google has simply erased gorillas (and, it seems, chimps and monkeys) from the lexicon of labels its image classifier can apply or be searched with, rendering these animals unsearchable and in some sense invisible to the AI that powers Google’s image searching capabilities.

    “That’s the conclusion drawn by Wired magazine, which tested more than 40,000 images of animals on the service. Photos accurately tagged images of pandas and poodles, but consistently returned no results for the great apes and monkeys – despite accurately finding baboons, gibbons and orangutans.

    Google confirmed that the terms were removed from searches and image tags as a direct result of the 2015 incident”

    But guess what Ochu, google AI did classify our PM Modi as top 10 criminals. Man that is smart, google AI is definitely smarter than a huge portion of the Indian population because that classification was sooo right.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  269. @Truth

    Well, I’ll take your word for it. I just assumed that all born-straight males were like me, disgusted by the thought of sex with another man, and no amount of persuasion or force could make me engage in it.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  270. Malla says:
    @Commentator Mike

    The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party” by Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams

    oy vey would not a Jew Mr Abrams want to show how the Nazis were all gays and flaming homos. I mean we have always known from jew media about how Hitler was diabolical evul, evil madman extraordinaire. We are goyim sheep.

  271. @annamaria

    splitting hairs ma’am..you are!

    I assume prescriptions were involved, medical doctors signature and so on..a trail that can be followed, investigated etc.

    I figure that if there was illegality in Serena’s steriod use situation the associated professionals and and tennis authority and institutions would be gravely endangered. they themselves would be beholden to reveal to pre empt the illegality or be caught up in scandal, public comes’ and bacchanal, controversy and loss.

    and it could still happen..were there illegality involved. there are no limitations on such revelations.

    and if you are watching there must be many others watching as well, who can and would do something about it..would have done so long already. Serena has had a very long career. there has been time…

    but be all that as it may when I say druggie I mean druggie..regular and illegal use of substances, to enhance performance for illegal and undue advantage in competition. that must be the case..not a medial condition for which temporary use..one and done applications at supposedly specific occasions made necessary by her condition..a condition if my memory serves, was reported openly somewhere along the line.

    simple logic informs me that there is nothing here ma’am, nothing intimated by you… nothing but splitting of hairs that seems not to be relevant all.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Iris
    , @annamaria
  272. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    And thin lips, a pronounced brow ridge, straight stringy hair, excessive body hair (fur), long torso/short legs, etc. These are all Europeanized phenotypes.

    But in another page on Unz you were claiming that Europeans are just black Negroids with White skin!! Is this contradicting yourself all the time, a childhood habit? A most unfortunate one.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  273. Malla says:
    @Anounder

    Joos love everything that is grotesque and ugly and the destruction of beauty. Check out their promotion of ghastly modern ‘art’. Checkout their ghastly holohoax memorials.

    Compare and contrast to these memorials to Polish suffering at the Katyn massacre by Soviet commies.

    Broadway has been into gender bending for years and most loved and frequented by jews.

  274. Malla says:
    @Seraphim

    Thanks. Brilliant.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  275. Malla says:
    @Art

    TQIAPK+ is an abomination – it is contrived – to alter one’s body is unnatural and unneeded.

    It is all to eventually turn us (those of us who survive the cullings) into sexless, brown raceless, rootless slave drones in the coming Satanic Dajjalic Talmudic NWO with its capital in jerusalem.

  276. @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    Is that your argument? Then, my condolences.

    There is a certain probability that a child would be born with predisposition for schizophrenia or with an extra copy of chromosome 21 and Down syndrome. We have no control over that, either. I don’t doubt that schizophrenics and Downs also just want to live a happy life. That does not make them normal. However, their affliction does not justify any discrimination against them. But certain limitations apply.

  277. tallos says:

    Yea that “closet fear” argument has always been invalid. Its like saying everyone who doesn’t like pedos is one.

    Its starting to look like the “spiteful mutation” theory works best. Its one thing when one disruptive child is in your class, it makes it harder for the rest to learn but the teacher might just handle it. When the number starts climbing, it becomes a problem, and that’s what seems to be happening with this new spate of paraphilias, thanks to the ever expanding number of diagnosis self or otherwise, and their promotion in the media, they are disrupting the social environment for the rest. The dysfunction results in the fertility rate, so low now that in blue states even mass waves of illegal migrants can’t push it above replacement rate.

    The left used to understand this, disrupt the environment of an animal and it fails to thrive.

  278. @Anounder

    It is most likely a confluence of genetic and environmental factors. Just like schizophrenia: certain gene combinations create predisposition, then unfortunate life circumstances make it a disease. Schizophrenia is widely studied, and genetic correlations tend to be 0.1-0.2. On a big sample (many hundreds) this is statistically significant, although it clearly has no predictive value. Because of PC BS no scientist in the US or Western Europe would touch homosexuality with a ten-foot pole, so we don’t really know the weight of genetic and environmental factors. Still, a disease is a disease, people “choose” to be afflicted no more than they “choose” to have tuberculosis. So, discrimination is just as wrong as proclaiming this disease a norm.

  279. Anon[439] • Disclaimer says:
    @Okechukwu

    LOL… don’t force us to show you skull comparisons. Though, actual phenotypic comparisons would be enough.

  280. Anon[439] • Disclaimer says:
    @Okechukwu

    The picture of the white female tennis player is clearly doctored, and poorly.

    The photo editor stretched out some skin, badly. Its not even muscle that’s being emphasized. The right forearm is a dumpster fire result of photoshop, which is clear just by looking at it, but you can also compare it to the normal left forearm. The tricep of the right upper arm is fake, as well as the bicep (created by adding shading across the arm, as its otherwise unnaturally flat).

    Your image is as credible as your general positions here, and representative of them.

    Its not debatable that Blacks are different physiologically. When I was a progressive, I dated a Black girl. I know how your muscle is naturally enhanced over that of everyone else. Don’t lie, nigger. You know as well.

    If you want me to talk about what else I learned about Black people during that time, just ask. Or respond to me at all.

    • Agree: Malla
    • Troll: Okechukwu
  281. Jester says:
    @Malla

    Seraphim—what does your irrelevant biblical drivel have to do with or how is it related to LGBTQ ??

    • Replies: @Malla
  282. Anon[373] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    By my personal, non-scientific calculations, I would say that 60% of “men” above an astronomic level of power, wealth or fame in this world, are have been “persuaded” to do just that. In other words, your “alphas”, or anyone you grew up idolizing is a homo. they have no choice.

    By your personal, non-scientific calculations, huh? Sounds credible.

    What I know is that faggots tell themselves every manner of fiction in order to live with themselves. Their most common self taught lie is that sexuality is a spectrum, everyone is a little bit gay, homos are less afraid of sex, straight guys commonly do gay things, etc.

    All rationalizations for their inability to control their objectively deviant sexual preferences. Their simple solution is to tell themselves that everyone does it, and those that do not are stopped more by fear than by desire.

    It causes them to target straight males, hence your fantasy that “most” straight males can be (or powerful ones are) turned. Such a rationalization tells you that there is a basis to your self-taught fiction.

    I once had a former friend, who I didn’t know was gay for a long time, eventually target me sexually. He fed me all of these lines. Your rationalizations are essentially the same.

    When my more mannered refutations of his sexual worldview didn’t convince him, I told him that I’d rather take a bullet than engage in homosexual behavior; which of course shatters the basis for his self taught fictions. And which is perfectly true, and remains true to this day. I wrestled (the sport with singlets) for years in high school and know that I’m perfectly straight. Even the smell of men is repellent to me: they stink like shit. I never saw him again.

    Truly heterosexual men are not on a sexual spectrum and can’t be turned unless they value their lives over their self concept and dignity and are forced at gunpoint.

    The latter situation, in which someone would cross over to save their life, being less common for Europeans and more common for non-Whites who do not share a certain genetically inherent spirituality. Our strength has always been that we value spiritually rooted principle and life over this mortal life. Which is what has made us into the inherent warriors that we are. There is no converting a truly straight, truly White man.

    If that puts us under some gay mafia in terms of political power, so be it. We trust that, in the end, God will route this world of evil.

  283. Malla says:
    @Jester

    Inversion of values. It is a sin to invert Logos as created by GOD.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  284. Remington says:

    A limited case can be made that homosexuality and even pedophilia can be group-selected for under certain hunter-gatherer circumstances. Check out some of the excellent YouTube videos posted by anthropologist Edward Dutton. He explains that quite neatly. The idea is that homosexuality and pedophilia tend to make these people better at performing certain functions that are of importance to the group. As long as the number of homosexuals and pedophiles remains limited, group selection then helps the genes of these people along down the generations. Dutton even goes as far as postulating that these mechanisms continued to be at work for a very long time even after the hunter-gatherer lifestyle had been abandoned. It all depends on keeping the number of homosexuals limited and their role in society channeled in useful ways. The main sector that Dutton believes homosexuals and pedophiles may be useful in is caring for children, in particular bringing up boys. Dutton uses traditional English boarding schools as an example. These schools were notorious for fostering homosexuality on their pupils. At the same time, they educated the elite that allowed Britain to conquer much of the world.

    Even if Dutton is right, Biblical tradition essentially says that the risk of homosexuality getting out of control and taking over society is simply too big. Homosexuals tend have a higher IQ than the average, they have time on their hands due to not raising children, and they have a insatiable desire for new recruits to their lifestyle. We do not live under hunter-gatherer circumstances where these factors were kept under control by the natural environment and inter-group competition. That allows homosexuals and pedophiles to gravitate towards each other, form networks and get outsized economic, cultural and political influence. Right now, we may be witnessing just that in the developed world save Russia and China.

    Even Russia and China are not safe. If the theory is correct, then relegating homosexuality and pedophilia to the closet is not enough. These people will still find ways to spread their attitudes and lifestyles. Their numbers need to be actively reduced, that’s the only way in which keeping them in check can be achieved. Right now, only the more radical parts of the Muslim world seem to have understood that while also acting upon it. It’s all very ugly but then again evolutionary group competition has never been a beauty contest of which group can be the most moral one.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @dfordoom
  285. @Rational

    The “Judaists” are behind it? Give me a break….

  286. @Renoman

    As Morton Downey Jr. used to say, “that’s an exit, not an entrance.”

  287. @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    I don’t agree that a homosexual couple should be allowed to adopt, and I do agree with much of author Saker’s argument.

    Sorry, marching and the flag didn’t work. It has provoked massive backlash, whether seen or unseen. Most people don’t like things shoved down their throats. (I know– I could have phrased that better.) Sure, live your life as you see fit, but keep the “non-mainstream” stuff private. Most people have a negative reaction to seeing a mother breast-feeding her baby in public, so why do you think two men holding hands could possibly be accepted as normal?

    One of USA’s main principles is “live and let live,” and I believe a majority of the population is willing to abide by that. Just be subtle about yourselves.

    • Agree: Malla
  288. @dfordoom

    But heterosexual sodomy is just as repellant, just as disgusting and just as perverted. And just as harmful.

    Opinions on that issue are divided.

    Against

    https://www.medinstitute.org/2016/08/the-consequences-of-heterosexual-anal-sex-for-women/

    The Consequences of Heterosexual Anal Sex for Women

    Neutral

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201102/back-door-psychology

    Back Door Psychology

    https://libida.com/pages/how-heterosexuals-have-anal-sex

    • Replies: @Cal I. Fornier
  289. @Virgile

    This is not the same. It is completely different.

  290. Anyway- gays are more fun for debate than boring topics like IQ or China.

  291. @Malla

    Passionate defender of Roman Catholicism E. Michael Jones is everywhere on YouTube these days preaching his concept of Logos, and that Jews, who have rejected the divinity of Christ, have become dangerous “revolutionaries” as they have, in his words, “rejected the order of the universe.” (Aside: Would that not apply to all religions which do not recognize Christ as the literal Son of God?). Be that as it may, it seems that the Saker is not enamored with the effeminate “Latin Christians,” which Jones most passionately defends as the one true faith.

    For, if Jones believe in Logos (the order of the universe), then how does he justify a celibate priesthood when celibacy for “normal” virile men is completely abnormal. Really, one wonders what type of confused young males are becoming priests in the first place? I’m not a Roman Catholic, but it does seem to me that they have more than their share of homosexual pedophile priests. But, perhaps that’s what you get when your church (Jones’ church) fails to follow the Logos of the Universe by insisting that their sexually repressed priests take a vow of celibacy.

  292. @follyofwar

    but it does seem to me that they have more than their share of homosexual pedophile priests. But, perhaps that’s what you get when your church (Jones’ church) fails to follow the Logos of the Universe by insisting that their sexually repressed priests take a vow of celibacy.

  293. Malla says:
    @follyofwar

    You have a good point. Well I am not Catholic myself and maybe a RC would answer that. I do not agree with E Micheal Jones completely. I agree with the Jewish rejection of Christ and thus Logos and the Jewish revolutionary spirit against Logos and all that. But the problem is, Jews have been inverting Logos even before Christ, thousands of years before Christ.
    Yes celibacy of the priesthood is an inversion of logos but my two cents on this subject (in theory)
    1] Transmutation of Sexual energy into something higher and spiritual. This concept is common among Hindu holy men.
    2] Not having a family of your own means you dedicate yourself to the Church body. If you have wifey and kids you might be tempted to accumulate wealth for them and maybe greed and sin may set in. Instead you work 100% for the Church of God as you have no progeny to accumulate wealth for. The Church body is your family.
    Just my two cents. I am not a Catholic, I am Hindu.

  294. Malla says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Not some Moroccan couple whose kids the Obamas adopted

    I though, more like Ethiopian. Malia Obama really looks like a Horn African. Initially I thought it was the combination of Bantu and Caucasian genes (from both sides especially Barack’s) which gave a Horn African look.

  295. RI says:
    @Miggle

    What hapenned to comon sense? It obviously underwent transition intervention and is now comon nonsense.

  296. SBaker says:
    @Anonymous

    I have touched on several of the authors interesting comments and been banned from commenting at several sites and labeled by names to describe the usual male repulsed by homos. I meet their comments and silly name-calling with indifference. Having worked in public health for much of my career I have a bit more insight into the disgusting behavior practiced by the males, all of which seem to be coprophilic. None of this is ever mentioned by the media and the list of long forgotten venereal diseases spread to young boys is completely ignored. Thanks to the marketing of deviance by Hollywood perverts, people have simply bought into the vernacular set by the mentally deranged and so-called “gay” lifestyle. Why does what amounts to a man licking/rimming/felching another man’s rear constitute some kind of “gay” lifestyle? This hallmark of deep perversion has been demonstrated over and over as these deviants smear themselves with excrement, rim each other, and seek hookups with other male deviants in filthy public restrooms where the stench serves as their aphrodisiac. Appropriate sanitation is completely lacking in the makeup of male homosexuals. But hey, the intelligence of the gay way is here to stay, right? If people were allowed to discuss the public health implications of such behavior and ask why they are banned from giving blood perhaps the alphabet avalanche could be checked.

    • Agree: Rich
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Russ
  297. Evil is making the natural unnatural, and the unnatural, natural.

  298. Okechukwu says:
    @Anon

    The picture of the white female tennis player is clearly doctored, and poorly.

    The main reason white nationalism is a joke ideology is due to the intense self-delusion of its adherents. I mean, you pieces of shit literally live in fantasy worlds.

  299. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    The fact remains, as a hairy Hindu, you look more like a gorilla than me. You even have the same exact hair type. And that hair covers your entire body just like it does monkeys and apes.

    • Replies: @Malla
  300. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    You’re making shit up, you bootlicking, groveling, sycophantic Hindu Uncle Tom.

  301. Okechukwu says:
    @Paul C.

    However, this picture is doctored.

    Only you’re fellow white nationalists are dumb enough to believe that.

    This is doctored too, eh?

    And this?

    • LOL: Truth
    • Replies: @Paul C.
  302. annamaria says:
    @Fool's Paradise

    My post was in response to this proclamation by “Deschutes” — “if a gay pride parade is banned, that is discrimination and that is what they’ve done in Moscow and countless other Russian cities: banned gay pride parades. That is insecure, stupid, and most discriminatory and smacks of ignorant sexual insecurities.”

    Russians do not allow proselytizing of homosexuality to children. What’s wrong with it?
    Does Saudi Arabia practice gay-pride parades? Take note that the US is a cordial friend with Saudi Arabia.

    Saudi Arabia is considered to have one of the worst LGBT rights records in the world. Both male and female same-sex sexual activity is illegal. … the law punishes acts of homosexuality or cross-dressing with punishments of fines, public whipping, beatings, vigilante attacks, chemical castrations, prison time up to life,[3] capital punishment[4] and torture.[5]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia

  303. annamaria says:
    @ben sampson

    If you insist: http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2018/07/serena-williams-drug-testing-tues-theraputic-use-discrimination/75548/
    Read carefully this time before posting another long and illogical post:

    In 2016, Williams was revealed to have received several Therapeutic Use Exemptions (TUEs) from the ITF.

    The health problems for which Williams received the TUEs are not publicly known, nor straightforward to establish. Their dates coincided with the week before the 2014 Miami Open, the 2014 Miami Open, the 2014 Madrid Open, the 2014 Italian Open, the week before the 2014 French Open, and 2015 French Open.

    In addition, Williams had a set of TUEs during the 2014 offseason, even though oral corticosteroids are banned solely for in-competition use.

  304. Iris says:
    @ben sampson

    splitting hairs ma’am..you are!

    No, she isn’t. Everybody really interested in sports knows that most American athletes and sportsmen are doped to their eyeballs, but don’t get “caught” because (1) the US is a powerful country nobody dares crossing (2) they have more elaborate masking methods.

    Top of the iceberg: US super-prominent athletes sometimes got caught (Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong), or died as a consequence of excessive doping (Florence Griffith-Joyner).

    This article is however playing the well-worn “race” card where it doesn’t belong: unfortunately, athletes of all “races” resort to doping.

  305. annamaria says:
    @ben sampson

    More to clarify the matter: https://steroidssaleguide.com/serena-williams-and-steroids-accusations-and-the-evidence-of-use/

    Serena obtained approval for the following meds:

    Oxycodone (OxyContin)
    Hydromorphone (Dilaudid)
    Prednisone
    Prednisolone
    Methylprednisolone

    The first two meds belong to the opioid painkiller group. They are banned under anti-doping rules because they are labeled as narcotic drugs.
    The second two are corticosteroids, the use of which is typically prohibited at competitions. …

    Masculinization is one of the side effects of anabolic steroids. These medicines are analogs of the male hormone testosterone, which is responsible for the appearance and development of male traits.

    And she does show the male traits.

    • Replies: @ben sampson
  306. @Anon

    I don’t think you know squat about tennis. The white player is Russian-born Maria Sharapova, who has also been a model for years. If you’ve ever watched any of her matches, you would not be making up such stupid shit.

    As for Serena Williams, she just get her butt kicked good and hard by Romanian Simona Halep in the Wimbledon final (Yea!). Women’s tennis will be much better when it is no longer haunted by the scary looking Williams sisters. It is ironic that older sister Venus has a slim body type closer to Sharapova (without the looks, of course). I’ve wondered for years how Serena became so muscle bound. But, questions of her gender were answered when she had a baby.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  307. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    The fact remains, as a hairy Hindu, you look more like a gorilla than me.

    Ya rite….LOL.
    BTW what does the ancient religion of Hinduism have to do with Google? Why get the religion in between???? Oh I gets it now, the CEO of Google is a Hindu just like the CEO of Microsoft is a Hindu. Is that what you are secretly trying to indicate to me Ochku?

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
    , @Bardon Kaldian
  308. SM says:

    I was born that way!

    This is merely the sexual freak’s 21st Century version of Adam’s complaint against God:

    This body that YOU gave me!

    Reduced even further to it’s essential deceit:

    it’s not MY fault – it’s YOUR fault!

    Hence “homophobia” means it’s your fault that you are repulsed by the repulsive, and etc.

  309. Anonymous[242] • Disclaimer says:
    @SBaker

    If people were allowed to discuss the public health implications of such behavior and ask why they are banned from giving blood perhaps the alphabet avalanche could be checked.

    That’s hilarious. I’m surprised they have such rules given the stigma implications. I’m sure the LGBTQ+++ community is outraged.

    But briefly checking a Red Cross website, that seems to be contradicted by the “no deferral associated with being transgender” policy.

    Like medical discussions on circumcision, it seems debate about the “science” and “health” of homosexuality is impeded by political and ideological concerns/agendas.

  310. Okechukwu says:

    The Saker, of course, is an idiot. Serena was born a heavyset individual. In other words, she was born with most of those muscles. In comparison, Sharapova was born a svelte individual like Serena’s sister Venus.

    Thus we have a very interesting natural experiment in comparing and contrasting Venus Williams to Maria Sharapova, both of whom have the same body type. In doing so, we can establish, conclusively, that Sharapova is roided out.

    I hate to say it because I like Maria. She sort of looks like my Russian ex-girlfriend, whom I am still very fond of. However, there’s no question that Sharapova is a cheat who used banned substances to gain an unfair advantage. She was caught and punished for it. As you can see from her pic, she is a heavy user of banned steroids. Why are we even having this discussion?

    • Replies: @Iris
  311. @follyofwar

    Obama’s partner Michael also “had” babies. Two, to be exact. Were you present during the delivery?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  312. SBaker says:
    @Renoman

    Males queers also rim each other, an act that results in consumption of fecal material leading to a host of diseases. Having collected
    epidemiological data during interviews with male homosexuals, I know all the dirty
    details, the lying excuses about how they obtained their myriad of diseases, and how
    they openly transmitted said diseases to other innocent victims, including children.
    As somebody who has dealt with the science of the behavior, I am compelled to speak
    the truth, and not from a religious perspective. If we cast our focus on male
    homosexual behavior; we know that disgusting acts that result in fecal oral passing
    of infectious agents, doing such acts in filthy public restrooms, passing diseases in
    bath houses, forming organizations devoted to the rape of young boys (ie NAMBLA and
    B4U-ACT), spreading venereal diseases like typhoid Larry, lacking basic sanitary
    behavior, and marching in parades to expose their genitals in public, then yes, it is
    at the least a huge threat to public health and children. Themediumisthemessage and his fellow buttrimmers are masters of downplaying the reality.

  313. @follyofwar

    There’s no reason to think that pedophilia is common among RC priests. But homosexuality seems to be their “norm.”

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  314. @AmRusDebate

    He’s not a thing but a mentally ill man who has been encouraged by evil people to mutilate himself.

  315. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    The technology is primitive and prone to errors, dummy. If the algorithm were more advanced and more sophisticated black people would be the least likely to be identified as apes or monkeys. We are the farthest removed phenotypically. Even our hair is uniquely human. You, on the other hand, have the same hair type as apes, dogs, pigs, horses and rats.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  316. SBaker says:
    @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    So sad that we can’t tolerate all the deviants, but, the contemporary world is supposed to be more civilized than the world before the first century. Imagine that. Let’s not focus on the religion of homosexual behavior and think about science and infectious diseases. A study which analyzed tens of thousands of gay obituaries and compared them with AIDS deaths data from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), has shown that the life expectancy for homosexuals is about twenty years shorter than that of the general public. The study, entitled “Gay obituaries closely track officially reported deaths from AIDS”, has been published in Psychological Reports (2005;96:693-697). The actual life expectancy for a homosexual male with AIDS is 39 . . . without AIDS . . . 41.
    For a smoker? Early to mid 60s.
    And for the homosexual community to brag about their lifestyle and to shove it in our face instead of getting psychological help–well, it doesn’t make you the brightest bulb in the sack. When I see the “gays” giggling on the TV shows and mocking normal people I just laugh and think they must have AIDS dementia. The cost to public health has run way past a 100 billion for this crowd of disease-vectoring perverts, so stop lying about it isn’t costing us anything.

  317. @annamaria

    Well, first of all, Wikipedia is full of sh…in other words, an agenda. Of course Saudi Arabia doesn’t have gay pride parades, or any parades, for that matter, and I tell you, I know from knowledge, that there are homosexual activities in Saudi Arabia but those partaking wisely keep it to themselves, which one wishes was the case here. I have never heard of anyone caught or punished for it. It would not be easy to convict someone of it, e.g., someone accused of adultery must have three people swear, on three different occasions, that penetration was observed, penetration, not mere affection or kissing etc. Even so, the judge, unwilling to convict, will send the accusers home, hoping they’ll forget, but if they keep coming back, on three occasions, swearing they saw penetration, (which is not easy to see, is it), then the judge will…well, I don’t know, because, as I said, I’d never heard of anyone punished for it.
    In the years I lived there Israel was not considered a friend or ally, quite the opposite because of Palestine. But apparently the new rulers feel they have most to gain by ganging up with Israel and the U.S. against Iran.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Iris
  318. Iris says:
    @Okechukwu

    However, there’s no question that Sharapova is a cheat who used banned substances to gain an unfair advantage

    Wrong.

    The International Tennis Federation Tribunal concluded that although Sharapova took recently-banned drug Meldonium to enhance her performance, she did not do so with the intention to cheat. Sharapova was sentenced severely mostly because she is Russian.

  319. eah says:
    @Deschutes

    your arguments are shit

    Sorry, like it or not homosexuality is aberrant, so it’s nothing to be ‘proud’ of — while it should be tolerated, it should never be celebrated or socially normalized in any way — and please no goddamn parades.

    New HIV cases in the US, 2017:

    • Replies: @SBaker
    , @AnonFromTN
  320. annamaria says:
    @Okechukwu

    “The technology is primitive and prone to errors, dummy.”

    — Where have you acquired your manners? In the non-technological Wakanda?

    You, Okechukwu, cannot survive without white people: You cling to white people. You want to live with white people. You want to be educated among white people. You want to have a white baby.

    You are funny with the pronouncement of your racial (black) superiority — because, deep inside, you do not believe in your own pronouncements. Your strenuous efforts to secure a life among the white people betray you.

    Okechukwu: “Even our hair is uniquely human. You, on the other hand, have the same hair type as apes, dogs, pigs, horses, and rats.”
    — Amazing… How come that you run away from your black brethren and never looked back?

    • Replies: @Jester
  321. annamaria says:
    @Fool's Paradise

    “Of course Saudi Arabia doesn’t have gay pride parades…”
    — Thanks for the acknowledgment.

  322. Iris says:
    @Fool's Paradise

    In the years I lived there Israel was not considered a friend or ally, quite the opposite because of Palestine.

    Just more obfuscation from the Saudis rulers: Saudi Arabia’s regime stopped supporting Palestine ever since the convenient assassination of King Faysal in 1975.

    Saudi-Israeli alliance goes way back in time: it is notorious that KSA funded Israel’s invasion of South Lebanon in 2006 , in order to destroy the Hezbbollah “common enemy”.
    Shamelessly, Saudis funded the “Cast Lead” Israeli massacre of Gaza in 2008-2009, too.

    • Replies: @Fool's Paradise
  323. Anonymous[242] • Disclaimer says:
    @TheMediumIsTheMassage

    The transgender thing is entirely different. I don’t fully understand it myself. I certainly would never ever ever condone giving a child hormones or anything like that. Please don’t lump gay men into that.

    Then why don’t any of you speak out against it?

    And you guys are all being lumped together, not because we are doing that, but because those in the LGBTQ++++ are doing that. You guys self-identify as a single group. And an attack on one is an attack on all.

  324. I dunno, sometimes I think it is all horseshit.
    You ever feel like that? You get up in the morning, tired of trying to please anyone, go on the internet and find nothing of interest, meet with other people and find nothing of interest, and just say ‘It’s all horseshit.’?
    I’m not the intellectual type so bear with here.
    I think I just got fired from a truck driving job I started last week. It wasn’t a great job anyway – deliver oil to a crew which paves roads, the fumes are horrendous, go home every night and take a thorough shower to get as much poison as possible out of your system. Get up at 5:30 a.m. and go do it again, get stoned on fumes every day. I won’t miss it.
    Too bad it was a good crew, professional truck drivers just like me and luckily no bullies to worry about and a good safe truck with good brakes and steering to drive (doesn’t always happen that way)
    I was hoping that when they left my town where they hired me cuz they didn’t have anyone else I could keep the job. Money was lousy anyway.
    Truck driving isn’t a bad way to make a living, though I wouldn’t drive on the highway all day everyday – it would be like working in a factory. Usually I get ‘off road’ jobs, servicing mines and oil rigs and stuff. It is harder in some ways but usually you get to drive on more or less private roads with more or less professional drivers. Huge difference.
    Anyways, I’m sitting here having a couple of beers to take the hurt out of it but mostly stoned on toxic shit I’ve been breathing all day.
    Sorry for bending your ear, things will get better when I get my head together.
    Regards.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Justvisiting
  325. anarchyst says:
    @follyofwar

    The rate of incidence for sex crimes is about 1 %.
    That is Far less than that of Protestants, J EW Rabbis, Boy Scout troopmasters or certainly Public School administrators. The leader in sex crimes against children is usually inter family related ie Step Fathers, Friends, uncles etc.
    J EWs made a crisis, than brought suit against the centralized Catholic Church and in so doing, forever tarnished the clergy who was their archnemesis.

    Free Republic

    Pedophilia Only a Catholic Sin?
    August 14th, 2009 | Kevin Roeten

    Pedophilia Only a Catholic Sin?

    [MORE]

    It turns out pedophilia is an incorrect term, and Catholics aren’t responsible for most of it.

    Shockingly, AP breaks out of their typical liberal mold and reports Insurance companies shed light on extent of sex abuse in Protestant churches, that sexual abuse of minors has been rampant. But in their statement, they indirectly say members of the Catholic Church are not the majority abusers.

    AP discusses the raw numbers from three companies that insure the majority of protestant churches in America (Church Mutual, Guide One, and Brotherhood Mutual), and typically receive 260 reports/yr of people under 18 being sexually abused. Compare that with ~228 credible accusations/yr against Catholic clerics since 1950 (documented abuse records).

    Together with that information, it is known that the Catholic Church greatly outnumbers any specific Protestant denomination, and the data for Protestant churches is available only for the last seven years. Ever since the first sexual abuse cases had been reported, Catholics have had requirements: 1) police background check done on all volunteers,including priests, 2) a second person be present at all religious functions, and 3) all personnel involved with minors must take routine checks with Protecting God’s Children.

    Without a doubt, sexual abuse of a minor is one of the most despicable crimes and sins that man can perpetrate. But predators seem to thrive in an atmosphere where the base congregation is one of the most trusted organizations that exist.

    Philip Jenkins, in his 1996 book Pedophiles and Priests, [[link edited for length]], looked at the problem objectively and dispassionately. Jenkins (who is not Catholic) found that true pedophilia is extremely rare, and perhaps more common among Protestant clergy, and is even more common among married laymen.

    He found that in most sexual abuse cases (under the age of consent), the behavior is actually a variety of homosexuality. This sexual attraction with very young men that combine the charm of boyishness with sexual maturity is actually called ephebophilia. Pedophilia is really a psychiatric term meaning sexual interest in children below the age of puberty.

    The worst sex crimes against children is in the Jewish communities and protestant churches.
    Tomasi was not reserved with criticism either and citing data published by the daily Christian Science Monitor, which was founded a hundred years ago by the Christian Science Church, said that the Catholic Church cleaned its house, Jutarnji List writes.
    According to their figures the majority of the US child abuse cases happens in the Protestant churches and Jewish communities, says Tomasi.

    MORE PROTESTANT MINISTERS GUILTY OF PEDOPHILIA THAN CATHOLIC PRIESTS, NEW RESEARCH REVEALS

    A Penn State historian, Philip Jenkins, has done an in depth research of pedophilia and sexual abuse among the clergy and has come up with some rather eye opening facts. It seems that while 1.7 percent of Catholic clergy have been guilty of pedophilia (or sexual abuse particularly of boys), a whopping TEN percent of Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia!

    This is all the more interesting, notes Jenkins, since there has been NO media term Pastor Pedophilia coined at all!

    Jenkins theorizes that the media, proving the point of the necessity of sexual promiscuity, overemphasizes any instance of pedophilia found among the Catholic clergy since it can use this to criticize the entire idea of celibacy. But it is interesting that the NON Celibate Protestant ministers have a MUCH GREATER problem with it than the celibate Catholic priests!

    Protestant pastor pedophilia is not within the frame of our social constructionists as Jenkins calls the media:

    In the 1980s, [Pastor] Leyva had abused perhaps one hundred boys in several Southern states, but few of us ever learned of it. Leyva had the distinction of being a Pentecostal minister and was, therefore, not within the frame of those who were busy constructing reality. The same is true of the three brothers, all Baptist ministers, who were charged with child molestation in the 1990s; the public learned little about this highly unusual series of cases because it was not deemed worthy of dissemination by those fixated on Catholic scandals. [1]

  326. SBaker says:
    @eah

    Male homosexuals are #1 in many other areas. Ask the Red Cross why homosexuals won’t have their blood accepted and why there are so many questions asking the coprophiles about their sexual behavior. One in five homosexuals is HIV positive. And even though less than 2 percent of the population, they always account for the majority of new AIDS cases and HIV infections (and now are contracting a wide range of other diseases like Hepatitis, MRSA and Syphilis,drug-resistant gonorrhea, entamoeba histolytica, chlamydia, herpes simplex II, Chancroid, Drug Resistant TB, Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Hepatitis non A & B ), and die about 20 years before normal people. Medical treatments cost hospitals, insurance agencies and the taxpayer over $600,000 to treat the HIV ridden patient, diseases which are almost entirely avoidable. And worst of all, homosexuals account for between 35 percent to 40 percent of all child sexual assault (CSA), translating into a CSA rate 44 TIMES that of the Normal population. Next time they march in a pride parade you will know why?

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @eah
    , @Russ
  327. Seraphim says:
    @Malla

    It’s not me you have to thank, but to whom discovered to us these things.

    “I will give thanks to thee, O Lord, with my whole heart; I will recount all thy wonderful works. 3 I will be glad and exult in thee: I will sing to thy name, O thou Most High” (Psalm 9)

    “In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. 19 Quench not the Spirit. 20 Despise not prophesyings. 21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Thessalonians 5:18-23).

    • Replies: @Malla
  328. Create a buncha horseshit and call it news or comment and you still just have a buncha horseshit.
    This is the modern world, lot like the old-timey world, ‘cept a little more modern.
    I like marmots; probably because I don’t know them that well.

  329. @Bardon Kaldian

    Long, long ago a girlfriend mounted me and said “try it, you’ll like it.” I didn’t. Never tried that (or will try that) ever again!

  330. Paul C. says:
    @Okechukwu

    Why the anger and invective? Are you Serena? If you can’t be civil, you should discontinue commenting.

    Here are multiple photos of Maria hitting shots in 2018 at different tournaments.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=images+of+maria+sharapova+hitting+a+shot+in+2018&tbm=isch&source=hp&sa=X&biw=1377

    Her arms look nothing like the fakery you offer. You can see the sources of the photos, one from Time Magazine, one from Reuters. If your photo’s are real, how come they are not sourced? Why not show a photo from Tennis Magazine or Sport’s Illustrated to backup your claim? The answer is you can’t, because they’re phony. Sort of like you.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @eah
  331. @eah

    Biologically correct. Homosexuality is no more normal than bestiality, schizophrenia, Down syndrome, or any other kind of physical or mental deformity. Diseases are nothing to be proud of. The only difference with syphilis is that it is curable, whereas mental disorders are not.

  332. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    There are also plenty of straight men who are into anal intercourse with women. I’ve never quite understood this myself.

    I suspect it’s mostly the influence of porn.

    Our modern sexual mores are almost entirely due to the influence of porn.

  333. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Fool's Paradise

    I just assumed that all born-straight males were like me, disgusted by the thought of sex with another man, and no amount of persuasion or force could make me engage in it.

    There will always be a small minority of people who are vulnerable to temptation, either through weakness or because they’re not properly socialised or because they have some personality deficit. In a sane healthy society they are protected to a considerable degree from such temptations because those temptations carry such a heavy social stigma. Social disapproval acts to restrain people from doing stupid destructive stuff. That’s what society is for.

    These are the vulnerable people who are targeted by the homosexual lobby. They are also vulnerable to the attractions of deviant porn. But they are definitely targeted by homosexuals. I’ve certainly witnessed it personally. That’s why a healthy sane society makes sure that stupid destructive unhealthy behaviour is not encouraged. That’s why it’s better for society for homosexuals to be strongly discouraged from proselytising and spreading their propaganda and engaging in public displays of deviance.

  334. @Paul C.

    What do you expect from a self-proclaimed black guy with an outsized inferiority complex?

  335. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Remington

    Dutton uses traditional English boarding schools as an example. These schools were notorious for fostering homosexuality on their pupils. At the same time, they educated the elite that allowed Britain to conquer much of the world.

    They also educated the elite that lost the British Empire and transformed Britain from a great power into a third-rate power.

    • Replies: @Remington
  336. dfordoom says: • Website
    @RadicalCenter

    There’s no reason to think that pedophilia is common among RC priests. But homosexuality seems to be their “norm.”

    A major problem for most if not all Christian churches is that Christianity today has very limited appeal to normal heterosexual men. It attracts mostly women, male homosexuals and heterosexual men who are weak or inadequate. The weak inadequate men have allowed the women and the homosexuals to set the agenda and transform churches into SJW activist organisations.

    There are still some normal heterosexual men but they’re so heavily outnumbered by the women, male homosexuals and heterosexual weaklings that they are eventually driven out.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  337. Anonymous[242] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anounder

    1. Sadism and/or closet homo.

    This is silly. There’s no equivalence or relatedness between homosexuality and male on female anal sex.

    Sex is complex. There is a “healthy” exploratory range, the limits which are not clearly defined and predicated on many evolving social/environmental factors.

    But broadly speaking, we can probably argue that homosexuality generally lies outside that border.

    Vanilla sex lies inside the border, but it’s arguably the equivalent of finger painting (vs. high art).

    At the end of the day, sex is about 1. procreation, 2. male-female bonding. If your sex achieves both without compromise to health and life, then on an evolutionary/practical scale, it’s “good”.

  338. @Malla

    You are technically right. But many people, Asians, whites, Indians, Polynesians….associate black people with apes (I don’t).

    Why?

    • Replies: @ben sampson
    , @Malla
  339. @Iris

    Yes, and in 1975, when King Faisal was assassinated, is the year I came back to the States for good. I did go back once, in 1980, for a month, to travel around the Kingdom to get a narrative line on which to hang what I wanted to say in a book I wanted to write. It was published in 1988 by Bloomsbury Press, London, and Random House, U.S., and was shortlisted for the Pulitzer Prize that year.

    • Replies: @Iris
  340. @annamaria

    “Serena obtained approval for the following meds:”

    proof annamaria! where is it for what you claim here? and in the link they claim “proof of Steroid use by Serena”. they have none, put up none?

    again my logic: steroids use by Serena as alleged here is illegal. for steroid use, Maria Sharapova was caught and punished. why isn’t Serena caught also, for all the alleged proof you for sure, among many, have in your collective possession..not so?

    why would Serena be protected by US authorities for drug use? and how are the Russians less powerful and unable to protect Sharapova?

    why is she protected by you annamaria by not offering-up your proof for her prosecution?

    any good investigative reporter, of any nationality at all can do the investigate work, to prove Serena a drug abuser in contravention of competitive sports rules of unfair advantage. whats stopping them?

    I am not there where Serena’s life takes place..in the end I don’t really know whats going on with her and drugs. but I am familiar enough I think with drug use as heavy as it would by her accusers and I don’t see that in Serena.

    Serena’s muscles can be the product of simple half push-ups..100 to 200 a day. I do that all the time..4-5 days a week, and I always appear pumped. you just have to be consistent and Serena is consistent..for sure swinging the racket way often enough

    10 pound barbells can have the same effect as half push-ups..you know standing up, and just leaning over perpendicular on a counter top and pushing up and down..not going down flat on your hands and toes on the floor and pushing up for full push-ups, which are hard enough until you worked them into a physical routine fully

    there is enough suspicion and accusation of Serena for all parties concerned to have protected themselves by ascertaining Serena’s real drug use status long ago. I can’t imagine any tennis authority involved in the matter leaving that to chance..the USTA, the various state authorities, the British Tennis authorities, world tennis and so on.

    until some one with the investigative/journalistic skills proves Serena is an abuser, I will stand by my assessment of the situation…that Serena is not a drug abuser for unfair competitive advantage. and even stronger that Serena is not a tranny nor a lesbian..and so too Venus. they are both clearly female and heterosexual

    • Replies: @annamaria
  341. @AnonFromTN

    Time for DNA testing.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  342. @Bardon Kaldian

    those ‘apes’ are your father, and mother..and theirs too!

    hahahahaha. funny eh! and true too!

  343. In some places, an estimated one fifth of the fish are transgender due to water pollution. Abnormal sexual behavior and development seem to correlate with a polluted environment. In the human species, it may also be a response to living in an environment that is less and less conducive to healthy reproduction.

  344. Anonymous[242] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe_I_guess

    Yup, it’s all horsesh**.

    But that doesn’t mean it’s all bad horsesh**. Some of it is good horsesh**. The trick, I think, is to deliberately stay away from the bad horsesh** and surround yourself with good horsesh**.

    Of course, easier said than done when you’re scraping to survive and the good horsesh** is expensive. So what do you do?

    Just remember that it’s all horsesh**. So whether it’s good or bad, it’s ultimately just that. So what’s the difference? It’s just your point of view and what you OBSESS over.

    Waste less time on CNN, Fox, even Unz and other negative horsesh**. Spend more time on music, friends, your dog and good books.

    Whatever good there is around you, gravitate to that. Whatever bad is around you, ignore it. Fix it if you can. But ignore it if you can’t.

    I know. The allure of the bad horsesh** is strong. It can feel empowering to be upset and angry and WELL INFORMED about all the bad horesh** because there’s so much of that bad horsesh** everywhere.

    But it’s just horsesh**. And even being well informed is horsesh** in the end. But to be healthy, serene, happy in mind/body is good horsesh**. That’s the kind of horsesh** we should all want.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  345. @SBaker

    You obviously have a social conscience. Most don’t and don’t care or why would they let them adopt children? It’s a sick world and sicker than it’s ever been.

    • Replies: @SBaker
  346. Remington says:
    @dfordoom

    Entirely correct, no disagreement here. The thesis is that homosexuality can be useful to society entirely rests on homosexuality being curtailed down to a level where it does not threaten society as a whole. The British evidently did not succeed in doing so as they are now being overwhelmed by the alphabet soup agenda. (BTW, is it a mere coincidence that Google has changed its name to Alphabet?) It was a slow process, but a process it was, and the usefulness of homosexuality worked out for them only as long this process had not passed a certain threshold. That’s why just forcing homosexuals and pedophiles into the closet (Russia, China) does not work in the long run. You have to stop and reverse the spread of homosexuality and pedophilia, not just slow it down. Closet homosexuals and pedophiles are still very effective at spreading their deviancy within their private lives. They have family around them, they go to school, to work, to the sports center. Opportunities abound for them. Victims become traumatized, often become homosexual themselves and it’s all a chain reaction from there. Thus, sexual deviants have to be actively sought out and made to stop influencing the society around them. That requires more than just preventing them from holding parades. Actively going after them, chemical castrations and death penalties are the only measures that work. Classical civilization may be an example like Britain. Figures like Alexander the Great and Caesar had strong homosexual and even pedophile inclinations. It often said that homosexuality among the Greco-Roman elites helped male bonding. If it did, then sexual deviancy simultaneously undermined these elites and what the result was is well known. Classical civilization was eventually destroyed by more traditionally minded Germanics, Huns and Arabs. A complex society that keeps sexual deviancy in check cannot be democratic and has to be fairly intolerant overall. You cannot be democratic in all other respects while holding down sexual deviants. Iran with its authoritarian, Islamic theocracy and its death penalty for homosexuals might be an example of a society that is stable in this respect. On the other hand, not even Iran might be a positive example because liberally-minded Iranians can emigrate to the West. If Iran were forced to deal with all its deviants and liberals within its own borders, then who knows how that would work out for them.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  347. @ben sampson

    If you imply that black race was “original human” according to out of Africa hypothesis, then, you’re wrong. Modern homo sapiens sapiens, according to that hypothesis, appeared in what was now Africa at different place somewhere 150,000-200,000 years BC. We don’t know how he looked like, the same way we don’t know the climate of “Africa” then, accurately.

    He migrated to North ca, 80-90,000 years ago; first Caucasians can be reliably dated in mid-East & Europe ca. 30-40,000 years ago.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race#Origin

    First Negroes are perhaps 8-10,000 years old & are the “youngest” of all races.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negroid#History

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asselar_man

  348. Lin says:

    I recently had a vision from a humanoid winged seductress:
    The vampire community under the shepherdship of his (ex-un)Holiness Count Dracula no longer suck human blood after joining the Rainbow Alliance; instead:
    –They will suck human semen and vaginal fluids which are just as revitalizing as human blood.
    –As with blood, both the jewish kosher and arab halal diets require animal meat to be drained of blood before consumption; the vampire community has seized this opportunity to form business venture with the above God fearing groups of the Rainbow Alliance to set up alternative kosher/halal butcheries with important blood bottling production lines.

  349. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    The technology is primitive and prone to errors, dummy. If the algorithm were more advanced and more sophisticated black people would be the least likely to be identified as apes or monkeys. We are the farthest removed phenotypically.

    You can lie to yourself it if makes you feel good. But you are not fooling people who have common sense and healthy instincts.

  350. Malla says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Why?

    I cannot answer that because I do not either. I was just having fun with the black supremacist idiot thug ochuwochu. But you are right, a lot of Indians/Pakistanis and Middle Easterners I know instinctively associate black people with apes and monkeys. I have never come across a White person do than in real life. Maybe because it is not PC. Most people who I have come across associate blacks with being apes are desis and Middle Easterners (Arabs, Turks). And the guys (and there are some girls too) who did that are the more tough alpha “speak your mind” kind of guys.

    For example

    https://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/257974/israels-chief-rabbi-calls-african-americans-monkeys
    Israeli Chief Rabbi Calls African-Americans ‘Monkeys’ – Tablet Magazine

    Israeli chief rabbi compares black people to monkeys

    Also the famous Haifa Wehbe song

    https://www.newser.com/story/74259/arab-singers-monkey-lyric-enrages-nubians.html
    Arab Singer’s ‘Monkey’ Lyric Enrages Nubians

    Pakistani Muslim Calls Black Man A Monkey | Racial Abuse Caught

  351. Vojkan says:

    OK, the only reason I clicked to read this was learn what IAPK meant, I think I know for the LGBTQ part, and I kind of feel frustrated right now. Though I think the term ‘degenerates’ fittingly encompasses the whole alphabet soup of genders.

  352. eah says:
    @SBaker

    Promiscuous homosexuality (as much a part of “gay culture” as anything) is also largely responsible for the creation and spread of drug-resistant “super” STDs — but the media won’t tell you this — they’ll scare you with reports about the rise of potentially untreatable STDs without saying why this is happening: due to the huge number of cases seen in homosexuals which of course speeds the development of resistance in these organisms.

    Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STDs) have been rising among gay and bisexual men, with increases in syphilis being seen across the country. In 2014, gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men accounted for 83% of primary and secondary syphilis cases where sex of sex partner was known in the United States.

    Most of the men who are diagnosed with gonorrhea are gay or homosexual; those who prefer to have sex with other men. As gonorrhea is spreading more and more day by day, so are chlamydia and syphilis.

    This is an enormous public health threat, but the media simply will not tell you about it or give it appropriate attention while connecting it to homosexuality — this is why I personally view all the “pride” shit as disgusting, one-sided, hypocritical propaganda

    • Replies: @SBaker
    , @eah
  353. eah says:
    @Paul C.

    Brief tip/reminder: the IGNORE COMMENTER option under AGREE/DISAGREE/ETC is available and does work.

  354. Russ says:
    @peterAUS

    “Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is…in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.” 
    ― Theodore Dalrymple

  355. Seraphim says:
    @Anonymous

    You are wrong. It’s all BS.

  356. Iris says:
    @Fool's Paradise

    Thanks for your comment, very interesting. What was your book about?

    • Replies: @Fool's Paradise
  357. @Iris

    What’s my book about? Women, religion….There are good 5 star reviews on Amazon, my name is Dale Walker, the book is Fool’s Paradise, phrase used by Charles Doughty, Englishman who traveled in Arabia 100 years before me, and wrote his great classic Travels In Arabia Deserta. (
    I’ve also written books under pseudonym T. Weed, a name I adopted to protect myself from “the Swarm” (Israel Shamir’s term) when I began writing Letters to the editor of the local paper critical of Israel.

    • Replies: @Iris
  358. Malla says:
    @Seraphim

    Oh yes, I thank the LORD.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  359. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    The technology is primitive and prone to errors

    How long do you think, the terms ‘Gorilla’ will be kept banned by Jewgle AI?

    You, on the other hand, have the same hair type as apes, dogs, pigs, horses and rats.

    and lions, cheetahs and tigers. The hair we have is natural hair as found in nature on planet Earth, our home. Your hair is weird mutant hair then, not found anywhere in nature. LOL.
    Hey, maybe you guys are from a different planet? Space aliens who need to return to their Muddaplanet. Build da spaceships and return back ASAP. We Eartheans will support you.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  360. Malla says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    First Negroes are perhaps 8-10,000 years old & are the “youngest” of all races.

    Very true. But they have the DNA of some primitive hominids which us non Negroids do not have.

  361. @Joe_I_guess

    We are drifting a little off topic but I can tell you what I have learned from a long life (so far).

    Culture is not your friend.

    Nature is your friend.

    Go to the beach and walk on the sand, or just go outside and walk on the grass.

    Smell every single flower you can find.

    The trick is–culture is made out of lies, so don’t let any of it bother you.

    Once your head is clear you are ready to jump back into the matrix of lies without fear or favor.

  362. @Russ

    Great quote.

    The rulers make up the lies.

    The ruled are ordered to repeat and obey them.

  363. @Bardon Kaldian

    Depends who does the testing. If it’s done by an equivalent of Warren Commission, the results are less trustworthy than a used car salesman in a seedy neighborhood.

  364. @ben sampson

    Some evolved, some didn’t. There is a joke: “Why the creationists don’t believe in evolution? Because they didn’t evolve yet”.

  365. @Remington

    The “old boy network” in Britain has long been an euphemism for the homosexual gang among politicians, MPs, and the upper class males originating in their public schools. The daily chain has just grown and no doubt the closet homos in government encouraged its spread to the public and the Pride parades.

    • Replies: @Remington
  366. SBaker says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I have children. Allowing queers to adopt children is the worst form of child abuse and any judge who sanctions said should be on the end of a rope. I do have a social conscience and I also have worked in public health and seen the disgusting, unsanitary array of what male homosexuals practiced–the part well concealed in their stinking closet.

  367. annamaria says:
    @ben sampson

    “…for steroid use, Maria Sharapova was caught and punished. why isn’t Serena caught also…”
    — The innocent simple “ben sampson” has obviously never heard about Skripals’ affair and White Helmets’ amazing exploits. Have you heard of Assange? What about Russiagate? You surely believe each and every word issued by Mr. Mueller, don’t you?

    By the way, where have you got your info about pure-like-a-snow Serena Williams as compared to dirty Sharapova? Guess by reading online.
    Here is a link to an online article listing the substances that Serena has been taking: https://steroidssaleguide.com/serena-williams-and-steroids-accusations-and-the-evidence-of-use/

    Serena obtained approval for the following meds:

    Oxycodone (OxyContin)
    Hydromorphone (Dilaudid)
    Prednisone
    Prednisolone
    Methylprednisolone

    The first two meds belong to the opioid painkiller group. They are banned under anti-doping rules because they are labeled as narcotic drugs.
    The second two are corticosteroids (anti-inflammatory remedies) the use of which is typically prohibited at competitions.

    … if you look at Serena’s face, it seems masculinized, leading some commentators to wonder if she’s been dabbling in doping. … Masculinization is one of the side effects of anabolic steroids. These medicines are analogs of the male hormone testosterone, which is responsible for the appearance and development of male traits.

    • Replies: @ben sampson
    , @ben sampson
  368. SBaker says:
    @eah

    Absolutely, and thanks to hollywood, and the old media. The other huge issue that homosexuals don’t like the public to know is, as a group, male homosexuals are the perfect medium to produce drug resistant bacteria and viruses. The perfect medium because with HIV, they are immunocompromised, meaning they can’t destroy the antibiotic resistant strains. No antibiotic is 100% bactericidal, there is always a small fraction left of resistant strains that depend on a functioning immune system to wipe them out. This allows HIV infected queers to foist a plethora of drug-resistant strains of bacteria causing TB, syphilis, gonorrhea, MRSA, flesh consuming Streps, and the list goes on. Furthermore, they have also produced drug resistant genital Herpes, cytomegalovirus, and the ongoing newer more virulent strains of HIV. It is an understatement to note this single group representing no more than 1-2% of the population has cost the nation and public health 100s of billions of dollars to keep them alive and keep them spreading ever more nasty strains of infectious bugs. The Typhoid Larry’s are not just the bug chasers, they are the bug breeders and spreaders.

    • Replies: @Remington
  369. @Russ

    I agree, but some who lived under communism tell me that this western PC culture and system is even worse. Let’s hope the rulers get their Ceausescu moment. Can’t come soon enough.

    • Replies: @Russ
  370. @annamaria

    we will see sir. we have already have but I am prepared to put aside my point of view and wait again. there is nothing to lose, only truth to gain.

    and you are courageous indeed, citing Wicky Wacky links in support of your position. that’s interesting..and funny

    • Replies: @annamaria
  371. Russ says:
    @SBaker

    Just so. They also were responsible for syphilis outbreaks earlier this decade in Seattle and elsewhere. Unhealthy by any standard.

    • Replies: @SBaker
  372. @annamaria

    annamaria! I will not put my head on a block nearby some Arabian head choppers on this issue, in utter conviction of Serena’s veracity. but nevertheless I do not see that the Williams sisters are in a crowds of friends anywhere at all, people who would go bat for them, especially on the drug issue.

    why do you relentlessly insist on her illegal drug use, give no quarter, when it is either you have the truth/proof,,, in which case we are sure your would expose her, and cause her to pay for her transgression. or you don’t have any proof at all..which is clear because you are only alleging on the basis of what you have linked up here in accusation, not proof of wrong-doing.

    in other words you are in the same position I am in..only I think worse because you deny all that is likely in the case of Williams a very successful Black woman whose success includes years of defeat of white women championship class tennis players. I have been in public places a few times watching he Wimbledon finals and I have seen white people literally praying for Serena to lose, and angry to a fault when she won.

    I have read the hateful blogs, reports etc horrifically racist towards the Williams sisters and to Serena in particular. such racism was/is global and permeates all social levels. we must expect that the greater sentiment generally towards Serena in circles of authority is exactly what we see in the public from white people. why would I expect that if Serena was guilty of drug abuse her transgression would be hidden and protected by any god dam relevant authority?

    and even more critically: why in the hell would Serena herself trust anybody given who she is..a Black american woman, successful and in the teeth of white racism? Serena would have to be totally illogical to put herself in any situation at all in which advantage can be held over her by racists. opposite she would be s squeaky as she could be..in self protection.

    I am a Black man..I know what its like. you cant imagine what it is like. and Serena has support that would help her protect herself..her parents and whatever profession help she needs to withstand the exigencies of her success.

    I know all this..and you apparently do not. who in the USA would protect Serena from the consequences of illegal drug use? maybe some Black people in authority if the issue came under their purview. but they would need to protect themselves too for they are Black as well and under pressure. they would be hard pressed to risk their own hides for Serena.

    ask that same question of England, France, Germany, Poland, Austria..even Russia: who there would protect the Black american champion from prosecution for illegal drug use?

    no one that’s who! if Serena is guilty of illegal drug use..I would say there is a 90-95 % chance she is going down. that is 100% going down.

    that is why I am confident annamaria that Serena is not guilty of any illegal use of performance enhancing drugs and won her titles without such advantage over her opponents. I would not expose my neck on it. I would not expect my neck on a block to any sharp blade, for any reason at all. but I would put very good money on a bet on this claim of mine.

    I would also put huge, huge money on my claim that neither you, nor anyone you site, link, name, describe etc..have any proof at all that Serena Williams is guilty of performance enhancing drugs abuse..which is obvious. and given that fact why are you so relentless?

    why don’t you admit the shortage, the gap, and simply wait until there is such proof..or go do the investigation and report the results yourself..whatever you find out..guilt or no guilt. it would be fair that if you found no guilt to say so openly

  373. @Bardon Kaldian

    this is really for you Kaldian..not annamaria

    we will see sir. we have already have but I am prepared to put aside my point of view and wait again. there is nothing to lose, only truth to gain.

    and you are courageous indeed, citing Wicky Wacky links in support of your position. that’s interesting..and funny

  374. @Bardon Kaldian

    heres a youtube link Kaldian: is 50 thousand years good enough for you..or do you prefer and insist on less that 8 thousand?

    • Replies: @Malla
  375. Remington says:
    @SBaker

    You seem to be knowledgeable what regards the medical side of things. Is it true that the probability of transmitting HIV via a single, unprotected anal sex act is actually quite low? And would that mean that the true extent of male homosexual promiscuity must be absolutely off the charts as this group is still by far the largest carrier of HIV?

    • Replies: @SBaker
  376. annamaria says:
    @ben sampson

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/nobody-notices-nuthin-serena-williams-again/

    Check the internet for her Nov 2011 drug test panic. Apparently the tennis association can ask a player at any time for a sample, even off season when you aren’t playing in tournaments. Off season is probably the time you would be juicing the most to pump yourself up while not going to tournaments where you have to submit a sample. In this incident a tester showed up ringing her doorbell at 6 AM on a Sunday. She had her assistant call in a home invasion to 911 while she locked herself in the safe room. By the time the LAPD straightened out the misunderstanding her people had whisked her away from the tester.

    Why?

    • Replies: @ben sampson
  377. Remington says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Another reason for homosexuals being effective politicians lies in their appeal to women. Many women like to be around homosexuals because they provide male company while not being sexually threatening. Then they have this chic appeal from being over-represented in the creative professions. These factors bring women voters. Macron, who was voted into office too a large extent by urban women, practically had his coming out when he let that famous photograph taken of him where he is in the company of black homosexuals. He is also wedded to a much older, unattractive woman, thus fueling the phantasies of millions of cat ladies.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  378. @annamaria

    my last word! you have no proof..you cannot deal with my argument because there is no way to deal with it save to prove Serena is guilty..or we have to await that proof. if it never appears what then?

    give it up ma’am. get the proof!

    • Replies: @annamaria
  379. annamaria says:
    @ben sampson

    Your posts are not honest, “ben sampson.”

    The list of steroids, which Serena Williams has been taking, was hacked from WADA site. The information was truthful, hence the squealing of the “righteous” supporters of Russiagate. (See, for instance, certain Dm. Alperovich of CrowdStrike fame).

    One more time:

    Serena obtained approval for the following meds:

    Oxycodone (OxyContin)
    Hydromorphone (Dilaudid)
    Prednisone
    Prednisolone
    Methylprednisolone

    The first two meds belong to the opioid painkiller group. They are banned under anti-doping rules…
    The second two are corticosteroids, the use of which is typically prohibited at competitions.

    When an official tester came to Serena’s door in 2011, this very muscular and big-mouth woman (who was in a company of an assistant!) had suddenly panicked like a small frightened child: “She had her assistant call in a home invasion to 911 while she locked herself in the safe room. By the time the LAPD straightened out the misunderstanding her people had whisked her away from the tester.”
    Looks like Serena Williams is not a clean athlete.

    Stil believing in Russiagate, “ben sampson?” How about Santa Claus?

    • Troll: Russ
    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  380. Malla says:
    @ben sampson

    They were mostly Australoids not Negroids. Negroids like black Africans are truly a much ‘younger’ race. ‘Younger’ but still primitive.

    You likey Mambo No5???

    Assuming the Out of Africa theory is true (ASSUMING), those early modern humans were not like today’s black Negroid people. Black Negroid people did not even exist when those early humans left Africa.This belief that Africa is a black only continent is wrong as hell. There were Caucasians in North Africa before Negroid blacks even existed. Hell they found Caucasian European skulls in Southen Africa, the Hofmeyr Skull!!! Even during this period we get no Negroid skulls yet.
    The Manot skull, one of the first human skulls found in the Middle East is already similar to European skulls.
    Indeed black Negroids have genes which is not found in other humans but the blacks got it from archaic primitive humanoids before modern humans even left Africa. In other words, these humans who left Africa did not carry this gene which blacks got 150,000 years ago!!! How is that possible if blacks (who did not look like today’s blacks but are the ancestors of Negroid blacks) are the ancestors of the population who left Africa. This population which left Africa was a distinct population from black Negroid and may already have looked European or at least Caucasiod.
    Negroids have greater genetic diversity because they have absorbed genes from more primitive humanoids. In other words, the population which left Africa was a population which had nothing to do with the ancestors of black negroids (who had not yet evolved/ devolved into Negroids by then).

    • Troll: Okechukwu
    • Replies: @Okechukwu
    , @ben sampson
  381. @annamaria

    You are arguing with a State Department troll or a hopelessly brainwashed person as if your opponent is an honest human being. That’s useless and ridiculous.

    • Replies: @ben sampson
  382. @Remington

    True, but many homosexuals are terrible woman haters, some of the worst misogynists around.

    In my comment I was referring to the “daisy chain” among queers but misspelt it as “daily”.

  383. SBaker says:
    @Remington

    Not an easy question to answer. It is dependent on viral dose, microabrasions in the lower GI, and frequency of the degenerate acts. The HIV transmission rate in the U.S. in 2006 was a little less than 5.0 (meaning there were approximately five HIV transmissions that year for every 100 individuals living with HIV–this is not a good answer since it says nothing about the multiplicity of partners, and if protection was used. Just consider this, at one time we had zero cases in the US and now we have more than a million diagnosed, and perhaps another million undiagnosed, and most cases in male queers. These people do a lot of weird things. I have a good bud that is an Emergency Doctor and has many funny stories to tell about the objects he has removed from the lower GI tract of queers. He finds it disgusting but funny at the same time.

    It was once easy to find stats on HIV, but searches are now suppressed to conceal anything negative about this deadly venereal disease–yes, it is VD.

    • Replies: @Remington
  384. SBaker says:
    @Russ

    Excerpt from San Fran Chronicle. New syphilis cases rose 55.8 percent in 2008 over the previous year, San Francisco public health officials reported. The increase was significantly lower than the dramatic spikes reported early in the decade, when new infections increased 167 percent from 2001 to 2002. But last year’s rise would seem to indicate an increase in unsafe sexual practices, which could lead to a rise in HIV infection rates. One explanation, Philip suggested, is that people who are already infected with HIV are having sex with others who are HIV positive (stumbling on the truth here and stating the obvious) The vast majority of early syphilis cases – about 97 percent – occurred in men, and more than 90 percent involved men who had sex with men, according to the Health Department. More than 70 percent of cases occurred among men who are HIV positive—LOL, really. Male queers are #1 in many infectious disease areas, this is just another of many none of the media ever address. I was shocked to see it in the Chronicle.

  385. Iris says:
    @Fool's Paradise

    Many thanks for your reply: readers’ feedback for your book are excellent, very enticing.

    Years back, my father got posted in a couple of Arab countries, and the family followed. The educated Arabs we befriended loathed Saudi Arabia, from all viewpoints, social, political, religious. Their (learned) opinion was even more negative than the one expressed here by Annamaria, so the perspective in your book is new and refreshing.

    So, as in Qays’ ode to romantic love, did you meet your beautiful Layla in the Arabian desert?(Sorry, I can’t resist a good gossip 🙂 🙂 🙂 ) Best.

    • Replies: @Fool's Paradise
  386. Russ says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I agree, but some who lived under communism tell me that this western PC culture and system is even worse.

    This is an important point. My only quibble with Dalrymple is with his use of the benign “political correctness” instead of the more malignant and appropriate “cultural Marxism” – of course, the quote is from 2005. In the 21st century, I’d assert that the West has been awfully culturally Marxist relative to Russia thus far. Just learned that nice clean-cut Navy veteran (and rump wrangler) Pete Buttigieg’s father founded the International Gramsci Society. There you go.

  387. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Africans are among the least hairy people on earth. Moreover, their hair looks nothing like monkey or ape hair.

    Africans have full lips. Show me a monkey or ape with full lips.

    Africans don’t have pronounced brow ridges. This is a phenotype Caucasoids have in common with gorillas, among many others.

    I told you before, you have no business calling ANYONE else a monkey. If both you and I are naked and in a line-up, most people will see you as exhibiting many more monkey/ape features than me.

  388. peterAUS says:
    @Russ

    Precisely.

    The quote copied/pasted/saved, in a couple of locations of course (DR and such…) for future reference.

    Muy apreciado/非常感激

  389. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Oh, shut up. You’re about as competent in “biology” as your fellow Hindus are in telephone customer service. Nothing you say has any relationship to reality. You’re spouting “genetics” for the brain dead.

    There are actually real biologists and geneticists that you can read on the Internet. But, no, you’d rather delude yourself with your ignorant racist nonsense.

    I tell you what, teach your kids (if you have any) your peculiar brand of biology and genetics and watch them flunk their way through high school and college.

    • Troll: Malla
    • Replies: @ben sampson
    , @Malla
    , @Truth
  390. peterAUS says:
    @Russ

    My only quibble with Dalrymple is with his use of the benign “political correctness” instead of the more malignant and appropriate “cultural Marxism” – of course, the quote is from 2005.

    I’d go a bit further (just me; I know the appeal of the word “Marxism” to Americans):

    My only quibble with Dalrymple is with his use of the benign “political correctness” instead of the more malignant and appropriate “mind control” – of course, the quote is from 2005.

  391. @Russ

    I don’t quite understand where this particular myth came from. In all self-proclaimed Marxist “socialist” countries homosexuality (just like bestiality and other perversions) was a criminal offense, punishable by jail time.

    Marxist theory claims that all people are equal (regardless of skin color), but never ever claimed that sexual activity with any object other than a person of an opposite sex belonging to your species is to be condoned.

    Globohomo is a purely imperial invention to benefit the fattest cats in the Empire, i.e., totally anti-Marxist. Whatever sins Marxism is guilty of, glorification of perversions and globohomo thing are not among them.

  392. @Okechukwu

    What about behavior, though?

  393. @Iris

    Well, Iris, I do go looking for the “hospitable widow” given to travelers to sleep with for 3 nights, it’s the “quest” that motivates all good travel books, but..sorry!..you’ll have to read the book to find out if I meet her. It’s a readable, lighthearted, informative, even funny journey, and I hope you’ll accompany me down to the remotest parts of Arabia Felix.

    • Agree: Iris
  394. @AnonFromTN

    I never worked for the government. in fact I had to struggle all my life to make a living. I am retired now and enjoy a little bit the money I saved..so I can type away my time on a computer on the Unz Review

    I was done with this argument because I did not see how the argument could proceed positively. still.. please understand: I have been looking at all you say, linked up etc., for one piece of solid evidence on which Serena could be prosecuted, that proves unfair advantage for her in her sustained success in Tennis over the past what 17 years or more..to remove her achievements due to unfair practices. I DO NOT SEE ANY!

    if there has been any such by Serene it still must be proved.

    you are claiming that the authorities are protecting Serena..how in the hell and why?????.

    then again private citizens can collect the incriminating evidence and initiate a private processes against Serena and the relevant tennis administration(s)

    what in the hell is stopping you..instead or carrying on endlessly here?

    and america has a vast tradition of private citizens fighting the status quo that you can tap into if you decide to move against Serena and tennis. why don’t yo?

    listen! I would be hurt if Serena is proven guilty..but I will take that in stride..and I will love her no less. even more so if her slate is found to be clean, that all such use by her was legit and Serena is good to go

    do you think I am trying yo stop you from action against Serena? I am not..you can do as you please..even continue this argument after I am gone. but as a Black man who has tremendous respect and love for the Williams girls I defend them here as I saw the opportunity to..not that I go about defending them. but if they broke the law and its proven they must face the results. I will like them no less as I have already said. but you have proved nothing here yet.

    that is what I claim..you have nothing to substantiate your accusation. you guys are asking me to BELIEVE your conclusion from your assessment of the links you have posted up. what the hell is there to BELIEVE? what! this is church doctrine? why should I have to believe what destroys someone when it should be proved.. and only them move on the proof

    how logical are you then? you make little sense..and continuing this argument makes just as little

  395. @Malla

    ahhh Malla. you are sweet! you really do not want to be Black do you..go to any lengths at all to sever any possible connection that may exist between you and Black people, no matter how far back into the eternal past you have to go to find reason, however tenuous to effect a severance.

    that’s funny..really funny. and ultimately it may not be important at all.

    there are greater experts in the documentary than you Mall all who say Black, Negro..not australoid. and there are australoids all over Asia currently..what do they look like..who do they look like?

    who built the Pyramids then..and how old are they.

    I am a Black man but I refuse to be fanatic about this issue. the argument you post here is quite opposite to what is the general trend on human origins. relative to that is seems quite illogical and fringe.

    we however, for sure will come to know more truth in time. so let it roll. I however refuse to get myself into silly contorted argument to try prove against the obvious

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  396. @Okechukwu

    I think you hit the nail on the head Okechukwu .

    Malla does appear to be quite fringe, 100% illogical… relative to the general field of biology/genetics/epi genetics that I know.

    I am no expert for sure..far from it. but Malla does not make a smidgen of sense

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  397. Article forgot to mention that all homosexuals are child molesters.

  398. @Okechukwu

    sweet! absolutely 100% true

  399. Seraphim says:
    @Malla

    Thanks God that there are still people who do the right thing!

  400. Russ says:
    @Fool's Paradise

    It’s obvious that no born-straight male can be persuaded or forced to engage in sex with another man. So males who do are “born that way”, there is no other explanation.

    But what are we to make of these men who after a few decades leave wife and teenaged kids to pursue other men? Latent realization of “born that way”? What also of young boys preyed upon by older boys and men — my understanding has been that they are then of much greater inclination to engage in homosexual perverted activity as adults. Forget also not Anne Heche, who had been lesbianing with Ellen Degeneres before linking with a man and bearing his child; was she not “born that way”? The enemy of LGBTQIAEIOU is careful logic and scrutiny, and simply refusing to be mau-maued into silent know-nothingism. I think said enemy is rising.

  401. Russ says:
    @Miggle

    In whose interest is it for a certain minority to create another minority to harass the majority?

  402. Russ says:
    @Anonymous

    Is homosexuality useful? In certain limited situations and times it might be.

    Homosexuality is useful. Ask any committed Bolshevik, or the ghost of Bella Dodd.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  403. Russ says:
    @Maxi

    Some 0X% of people being homosexual has not caused extinction of the human race, and no propaganda will rise the quote. When considering homosexuality, please don’t look at debauchery. This can be done with heterosexuality too, but nobody judges it by looking at a brothel.

    A recent Gallup poll or equivalent found that American poll-takers thought that the U.S. was 25% “gay”, so, there is a disproportionate effect upon perception, and the quantitative similarity to a similar group must not be ignored. As for debauchery: The off-the-charts promiscuity of the homosexual male puts him in a class apart from his hetero counterpart. Enough cucumbers have been extracted from the bums of homosexual men to feed Somalia for a year.

  404. Russ says:
    @SBaker

    Medical treatments cost hospitals, insurance, and the taxpayer over $600,000 to treat the HIV ridden patient, diseases which are almost entirely avoidable.

    Before the Trump administration recently pulled the plug on the funding, more federal funding of fetal tissue research went toward HIV/AIDS than toward any other disease — by far (as reported in Nature in December 2015). To revel in sodomy and then demand that aborted babies serve as lab rats to cure the resulting disease is almost beyond the fathomable.

  405. @Russ

    So with this slick n sleazy Pete character we have the homosexual son of a Marxist prof who joins military intelligence of an imperialist superpower and goes off to Afghanistan to do what? I can imagine he enjoyed interrogating those bacha bazi boys over there. BDSM torture and bondage with some water boarding and all the rest. Serious dude this. Not happy to keep it just restricted to the club scene but takes it to the field and no limits. And a US Navy reserve officer deployed in Afghanistan, a country with no seas. Must have pulled some strings to get posted in the land of the bacha bazis, catamite heaven for a homo like him. And now he fancies himself as a future president. Between him and the pacifist Hare Krishna soldier vet and whoever other weirdos, Bernie Sanders seems the sanest. But I guess he’d bat for the Israeli team. Oh, but they all would. Comes in the job description like Trump found out. Or didn’t he know already before running for POTUS?

  406. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Shut up, your blabbering makes no sense.

  407. Malla says:
    @ben sampson

    you really do not want to be Black do you..go to any lengths at all to sever any possible connection that may exist between you and Black people

    You are smoking crack? you are just imagining things. Genetically I am part black.

    • Replies: @ben sampson
  408. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    If both you and I are naked and in a line-up, most people will see you as exhibiting many more monkey/ape features than me.

    Nope not true at all. BTW I did not call anybody monkey in this page. All I did was point about Google AI. And the fact that many South Asians and Middle Easterners I have come across consider blacks …..

  409. @Russ

    Bella Dodd may have been a communist for a part of her life but what’s her connection to the homosexual agenda? She did infiltrate communists into the priesthood to undermine the church but I don’t think there is evidence that she instructed them to spread pederastry among the clergy. If you have a relevant reference you could post it.

    • Replies: @Russ
  410. @Malla

    you are a lunatic Malla.

    where is Kaldian? I might get better, more sane argument from him..he is whom I addressed first, not Malla.
    Malla is nuts!

    • Replies: @Malla
  411. Malla says:
    @ben sampson

    you are a lunatic Malla.

    What? Just because I destroy your pet misconceptions about the Out of Africa theory, you call me lunatic? What are you, a little child? Check out the video, it is well supported with scientific research. What you idiotic Negro supremacist jokers need to realize that ‘Africa’ does not always equal black Negroid.

  412. Malla says:
    @ben sampson

    there are greater experts in the documentary than you Mall all who say Black, Negro..not australoid. and there are australoids all over Asia currently..what do they look like..who do they look like?

    Australoids are different genetically from negroids. For example people of the Indian subcontinent have substantial Australoid ancestry but in genetic tests South Asians do not match anyway with Negroids at all.

  413. Malla says:
    @ben sampson

    Basically you guys misunderstood the Out of Africa theory. Just because it is Out of Africa, you fools jumped to the conclusion that all of humanity descended from black negroids but this is not true at all. The only people who have descended from black Negroids are well black Negroids. And maybe some Arabs as Arabs enslaved black Africans during Islamic times and kept black women as sex slaves and thus many Arabs may have black Negroid ancestry. And some populations in the New World like many modern day Brazilians have black Negroid ancestry, obviously. But Out of Africa does not mean black Negroids are the parent race of humanity. That idea is preposterous and shows a misunderstanding of science.
    Secondly I am not trying to distance myself from black Negroids.
    Indeed I have joked many times on Unz that I wish we South Asians would rather had Negroid ancestry over black Australoid ancestry. Black negroids score higher on IQ tests than pure black Australoids from Australia. As well as for many other reasons.
    So this is nothing to do with any desire to separate myself from African blacks, it is just stating pure harsh facts. The truth is black Negroids are a very new race. When the OOA happened black Negroids were not even formed as a race and were from a different genetic line than the OOA populations.

  414. Remington says:
    @SBaker

    Thanks. These perhaps one million undiagnosed, would they be in the early stages of infection? One million plus one million would amount to over 0.5% of the population, with a much higher percentage in places like San Francisco where homosexuals congregate. Truly staggering.

    • Replies: @Remington
  415. Remington says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Marxists attacked the traditional family from the outset, just read the communist manifesto. Self-proclaimed marxist countries acted upon it by keeping pupils at school for the whole day and pushing women into the workforce. These two tenets are still basic pillars of social democracy in ostensibly capitalist countries, a social democracy that is deeply marxist. It has now come full circle in that these people are becoming increasingly open about wanting to carry out flat-out, large-scale confiscations of private property. In Germany the head of the social democratic youth organization, a typical socialist nomenclatura guy who has practically never worked for a living, has recently demanded that. This same organization has recently also adopted the demand of legalizing abortion up until birth. (And the so-called Christian Democrats are still allied with their mother party.) It goes hand in hand. Structurally, cultural marxism takes classical marxism and replaces class by identity – gender, race, whatever. Thence onwards, it’s all the same. A funny thing is the alliance leftists often make with islamists. They did it during the Islamic revolution in Iran and the islamists took no chances. Once in power, they killed them all off.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  416. @Deschutes

    Well said! I always find that dreary old homophobes like The Saker are obsessed with gay men because they are expressing their self-loathing for their own deeply repressed homosexuality so let’s call this for what it is – The Saker is a sad, lonely repressed homosexual who, actually, really, really wants a big, fat cock in his ass but doesn’t have the guts or moral courage to admit to himself.

    • LOL: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @FB
  417. dfordoom says: • Website
    @AnonFromTN

    Globohomo is a purely imperial invention to benefit the fattest cats in the Empire, i.e., totally anti-Marxist.

    Yep. What we call “cultural marxism” has been promoted in order to prevent the rise of actual Marxism. It is indeed anti-Marxism.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  418. Remington says:
    @Remington

    Going back to the situation in Russia and China, Russia is often heavily criticized for ostensibly ignoring that HIV infection has become endemic even there. Don’t know about the situation in China. Could Russian (and Chinese?) policies actually be something deliberate? HIV conveniently takes care of homosexuals and drug addicts as long as one is prepared to accept some collateral damage among all the others. And all the others surely get to discipline themselves severely if they do not want to get infected and die miserably. Which can only be healthy. Intriguing thought.

  419. @Sterling Archer

    The sisters that are mentioned in your post are not Russians. Please, do your home work before posting. Moreover, the this has nothing to do with the Saker’s article.

  420. Russ says:
    @Commentator Mike

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/faith-and-morals/item/29943-is-homosexuality-the-cause-of-catholic-church-scandals

    The link bolsters the assertion that Dodd during her pre-conversion sought to undermine the seminaries moreso through Communist ideology than through homosexuality. Ultimately, though, it is hard to fathom any totalitarian Stalinist frowning upon any wildly successful means of subverting the Church due to trivialities such as moral scruples.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  421. @AnonFromTN

    Whatever sins Marxism is guilty of, glorification of perversions and globohomo thing are not among them.

    Karl Marx is certainly not to blame.
    However, his vision has been _altered_ by the Frankfort School:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

    You could argue (with some validity) that the Frankfort School was not true Marxists–but that is similar to the argument that libertarians have been trying to make that the current kleptocracies are not true laissez faire capitalism.

    Both arguments are intellectually valid but operationally irrelevant.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  422. The “A” in the alphabet soup you mention is for ASEXUAL. I am one. If you read SAINT PAUL, he was ASEXUAL also. Like the Saint, I do not burn with sexual desire. I have no need for a mate. Saint Paul does say that not needing sex is better than needing sex only because one can devote more time to the things of God than to the cares of the world (family, sex, children, arguing with the spouse, etc.)

    ASEXUAL only means GOD has gifted the person so blessed with the absence of sexual desire–one who is ASEXUAL is gifted with celibacy, if you will.

    Not all of the alphabet letters are evil and involve sex.

    Oh, and I am one of those evil Anglo-Americans, 100% Anglo-Saxon bloodline. Oh, so very evil and depraved….

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Hank Yobo
  423. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Alligator Gar

    Not all of the alphabet letters are evil and involve sex.

    I can respect your position. If you don’t feel the need for sex you’re probably lucky in some way, unlucky in others. If you’re happy with it, I think it’s fine. I have no problems with it at all.

    So can you explain to me why asexuals would want to be involved with all those other sex-obsessed groups? What do asexuals have to gain from it?

    Have asexuals ever actually been oppressed? I can’t recall reading about the police ever raiding asexual meetings and arresting people for not having sex. Has an asexual ever been fired from a job for not making sexual advances to anybody? Has anyone ever told an asexual that if you don’t have sex you’ll go to Hell?

  424. @Remington

    Frankly, I can’t blame Iranian mullahs. Pests must be exterminated. Although in my book religious authorities are also pests.

    Let me give you some facts “from the horse’s mouth”, so to speak.

    1. In official Soviet ideology social democrats were labeled as anti-Marxist renegades.

    2. Original Marxism considered traditional family as bourgeois. That notion, just like the idea that the society can exist w/o money or organized state, went out of the window as soon as Marxists had an opportunity to run a real society. The authorities in the Soviet Union and its satellites were as pro-family as the Catholic Church, if not more. You could get in trouble for fornication, especially if you were a party member. You’d be blacklisted regardless and won’t get a chance to go abroad, even to something as worthless as Mongolia or Bulgaria.

    3. Women were encouraged to work, but married women could stay home w/o legal problems, whereas married men and unmarried persons of both sexes were criminally liable if they did not officially work or study.

    4. In the Soviet Union abortions were legal in the first trimester. They were sometimes allowed in the second trimester by special dispensation (if pregnancy endangers the life and health of the mother) and never allowed in the third trimester.

    5. Any kind of sexual deviancy (including homosexual behavior) in the Soviet Union was a criminal offense punished by jail time.

    I strongly suspect that the same fat cats (“elites”) pushing globohomo thing are responsible for labeling this totally anti-Marxist ideology “cultural Marxism” to deflect the wrath of biologically normal people to the strawman of Marxism, away from the real culprits. You make them happy when you fall for this trick.

    • Replies: @Remington
  425. @dfordoom

    Exactly. It’s a propaganda trick. Quite successful, as lots of gullible people fall for it.

  426. @Russ

    If you want to know the truth, see my comment #437. If you prefer your fantasy world, don’t.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  427. @Justvisiting

    Laissez faire capitalism inevitably leads to monopolies, which then monopolize political power (everything is for sale, including politicians – it’s free market). The combination of economic and political monopoly is current kleptocracy. The only means of preventing this is the right of the state to break monopolies, which would be anathema to libertarians. So, the argument of libertarians is not intellectually valid.

    The relevance of “cultural Marxism” label is that it is pushed into circulation by the same fat cats that push globohomo. It’s a propaganda trick for the gullible. Judging by this comment thread, there are lots of gullible sheeple, so the trick was successful.

  428. @AnonFromTN

    But he may have a point. Remember the Soviets wanted to undermine the bourgeois West so they may have been promoting in the West what they didn’t want for themselves. Sort of like Israel does with the West.

  429. Remington says:
    @AnonFromTN

    1. In official Soviet ideology social democrats were labeled as anti-Marxist renegades.

    Some Marxists labeling some other Marxists non-Marxists is of no importance whatsoever. Remember, a socialist or social democrat is just a communist without a gun. Besides, the Soviet Union had a very specific reason for labeling German social democrats non-Marxists in that it wanted to bring Hitler to power. Read Suvorov.

    2. Original Marxism considered traditional family as bourgeois…

    The Soviet Union first and foremost tried to and almost succeeded in exterminating the Russian orthodox church. In the most brutal ways possible. You cannot get more culturally Marxist than that.

    3. Women were encouraged to work…

    Many women were pressed into physical occupations that were not suited for them.

    4. In the Soviet Union abortions were legal in the first trimester…

    The abortion rate in the Soviet Union went absolutely through the roof. Perhaps more than anything else, this had a deeply demoralizing effect on society. Only now, after many years of decreasing abortion rates, the abortion rate in Russia is approaching so much as the European average, a rate that already is genocidal to begin with.

    The cultural conservativism in the former Eastern block had more to do with tradition than with Marxism being inherently conservative. It was Trotsky who formulated the dogma that revolution had to be permanent. A permanent revolution has to spill over into the cultural sphere. We are seeing precisely that.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  430. @Remington

    It was Trotsky who formulated the dogma that revolution had to be permanent.

    Remember what Stalin did to Trotsky? Not that the bastard did not deserve it, mind you.

    The rest of your arguments are just as “strong”. No time to go into details, but it is clear that you know about socialism in the USSR about as much as I know about life near Alpha Centauri.

    • Replies: @Remington
  431. B-Rad says:

    Male homosexuality is NATURE, like your sex and skin color. See: The Evolution of Beauty: How Darwin’s Forgotten Theory of Mate Choice Shapes the Animal World — and Us (2017), Part 2, by Richard O. Prum. In (very, very) brief, more effeminate men tended to protect women from marauding rapists and thereby, being friends of women, tended to have some reproductive advantage to pass on their genome, not to mention that they were not “10-second wonders” and had to be seduced, perhaps, by women. Women also chose, generally, for the “dangle factor” in the human penis, which is very different from the chimpanzee penis. Read the book; it’s the ONLY explanation for the male Peacock’s tail and, perhaps, human homosexuality too. (The evolutionary advantages of lesbianism is also explained.)

  432. Let us not forget that in the creed of the Jews, the natural impulse to love another human, expressed through sex, became a prisoner of the counterfeit impulse to fixate upon, adore and worship an imaginary tribal deity. With emotional attachment, and its associated fears and anxieties, displaced from fellow humans to Yahweh, whose wiles only an elite caste of priests could interpret, the sexual drive itself was shackled to a bizarre assortment of imperatives, taboos and prohibitions.

    Sexual love became a beast to be corralled, harnessed, tamed and neutered. Procreative sex was reshaped into a religious and racial duty. On the other hand, unbridled sexuality might easily have undermined priestly supremacy. Certain sexual practices – masturbation, homosexuality, incest, etc. – were perceived as subversive of marriage and its procreative purpose. Sex, therefore, had to be within “divine” guidelines. Sexual dysfunction was assured, and the neurosis engendered by this unnatural value system made its victims susceptible to a rigid hierarchical social order dominated by the male-only priesthood caste.

    Judaism would bequeath this unfortunate mix of ignorance, misogyny and intolerance to a wayward faction of its heretics eventually known to the civilized world as Christians. The plethora of rules and regulations of the Jews, designed to restrict, repress and otherwise regulate sexuality in the semi-nomadic barbarism of the Levant, would pass wholesale into the new creed and bedevil a Christianized Europe and devastate the New World.

  433. Remington says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Remember what Stalin did to Trotsky?

    So what? An internal power struggle. The Soviet Union would not have come into being without Trotsky and Trotsky was also the only ideologue of note it ever had besides Lenin. Stalin was an operator on the levers of power, not an ideologue. He just used the ideological groundwork laid by Marx, Lenin and Trotsky. He destroyed the Soviet Union, and killed untold millions, by his ill-conceived plan of bringing the Nazis to power in Germany, thereby plunging Europe into war and in the end coming to the “rescue”. Lenin and Trotsky gave him the means for that. He on his own would never been able to do it.

    The argument is also about Marxism in general, not only the Soviet Union. Trotsky undoubtedly had, and continues to have, an infinitely bigger influence on Marxism worldwide than Stalin. His influence almost cannot be overrated. Even the Neocons are former Trotskyists. Cultural Marxism unfolds as a never-ending amok run against everything that is decent, moral and healthy. It can never stop lest it looses its justification and its value as a business model benefiting cultural Marxists. That’s precisely the permanent revolution.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  434. B-Rad says:

    Also, I forgot to state the obvious: the vast, vast majority of homosexual men are “the guy next door” type of men, NOT the commie-supporting “progressive” fags in “gay pride” parades. And those “shocking” Up the Alley San Francisco street fair pics? C’mon folks… Talk about vanilla! Ever stumble into online male homosexual fisting porn? Up to the shoulder?

  435. B-Rad says:

    historicalia, I’m too newbie to use the “agree” function, so I’m posting to proclaim that I absolutely agree with your last posting regarding late Bronze Age Hebraic political mind control, aka Judaism, and the hundreds of millions of people in the past two millennia, via Jewism, Xtianity and Islam, it’s been responsible for torturing and murdering. Judaism is the root of almost all evil on Earth. Once a religion gets into bed with you, it’s got you by the balls. Cursed Abrahamic religions. Look into the bottom of almost every snakepit on Earth, and there’s an Ashkenazi nest. Folks don’t yet realize the “Jesus” story, the perennial metaphorical ancient Middle Eastern story about a dying and then physically resurrecting demigod, was around for 800 or more years — including most of its particulars — before it was transmogrified into ancient Judaic mythology in order to subjugate the goyim to the whims of Jewism. Then came the ash-knowing-nazis, the Europeanized Khazaric Ash-ken-nazis, and the world now suffers — desperately –under their opportunistic thrall. If ever there was a God-given word to clue us in, it’s Ashkenazi!

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  436. Truth says:
    @Okechukwu

    Oh, shut up. You’re about as competent in “biology” as your fellow Hindus are in telephone customer service.

    LMAO! Chuk got you there Malla, just like he got Dog’s Meat Breath.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
    , @Malla
  437. @Remington

    Yea, right. If Trotsky is an ideologue, then Lenin is a philosopher. Trotsky was just as much a slick operator and political manipulator as Stalin, he just failed to gain power. I pity the people taking his BS any more seriously than Stalin’s. That can be only explained by intellectual deficiency.

    As for “killing untold millions”, Stalin killed maybe 2-3 million directly and indirectly. When Trotsky organized and commanded the Red Army, his characteristic feature was ruthlessness that would make even Dracula cringe. The fact that he did not get to power instead of Stalin actually saved untold millions in the USSR and worldwide.

    Also, I’ve heard many outlandish fantasies, but the one that Stalin helped Hitler come to power takes the cake. Compared to that, madhouse inmates claiming to be Napoleons and Caesars are remarkably sane.

    • Replies: @Remington
  438. @B-Rad

    Cursed Abrahamic religions.

    Well, practically all biblical myths are borrowed from earlier religions, including the stories of creation, flood, etc. If you read the Bible carefully, you find lots of inconsistencies (even ten commandments are there twice, and they are very different). You can find inconsistencies between the four approved Gospels, not to mention numerous Gospels rejected as apocryphal.

    But there is nothing more evil in Abrahamic religions than in non-Abrahamic ones. Just consider Hinduism as an example – it is as virulently violent as the rest of them. Every major religion is responsible for mass murder, even Buddhism, if you include militant Tibetan variety. If I wanted to name a religion that was not guilty of murder so far, I’d name Baha’i Faith. But it was established only in 1863, so it is centuries younger than the others.

    • Replies: @B-Rad
    , @Seraphim
  439. really says:
    @Virgile

    “Man on earth essentially exploits, tames nature and most of the time works against it to fit his needs and pleasure. ”
    And that is the real problem, hedonism was disproved before it began …by the buddha. Exploitation will be the end of the world, aka climate change; there is no ‘taming’ of nature just changing it so the present assemblage of living entities can no longer find, or make, their ecological niche (=extinction).
    Evidently, those in favor of the mores here described are, like the fossil fuel, military, pharma, tobacco, agribusiness, and logging industries — in for the short haul subscription. …never mind that catastrophe will show their grandchildren no place worthy of life — if they exist at all.

    Solution(?):
    Demand/require, of your governmental representative, that:

    1. Your taxes (your investment in government) be directed to the ‘governmental investment’ of YOUR choice. We all need check-off and comment boxes on our individual tax returns that direct our taxes to the deprtment, or subsidy we, INDIVIDUALLY, favor. Citizen’s United said money is speech (regardless of the entity), taxation without allowed taxpayer direction, then is censorship, especially in view that our largest corporations pay no tax (are not censored). This would be true voting.

    2. Require that all lobbyists are taxed at the 100% rate — remember corps were taxed at 95% in the 1940s to 1970s.

    Then citizens can truly decide for, or against, funding: the ‘alphabet’ people, the govenmental murdurers, the pollution and despoilment of the environment, or support of a judicial or educational system that works against us.

  440. really says:

    “Man on earth essentially exploits, tames nature and most of the time works against it to fit his needs and pleasure. ”
    And that is the real problem, hedonism was disproved before it began …by the buddha. Exploitation will be the end of the world, aka climate change; there is no ‘taming’ of nature just changing it so the present assemblage of living entities can no longer find, or make, their ecological niche (=extinction).
    Evidently, those in favor of the mores here described are, like the fossil fuel, military, pharma, tobacco, agribusiness, and logging industries — in for the short haul subscription. …never mind that catastrophe will show their grandchildren no place worthy of life — if they exist at all.

    Solution(?):
    Demand/require, of your governmental representative, that:

    1. Your taxes (your investment in government) be directed to the ‘governmental investment’ of YOUR choice. We all need check-off and comment boxes on our individual tax returns that direct our taxes to the deprtment, or subsidy we, INDIVIDUALLY, favor. Citizen’s United said money is speech (regardless of the entity), taxation without allowed taxpayer direction, then is censorship, especially in view that our largest corporations pay no tax (are not censored). This would be true voting.

    2. Require that all lobbyists are taxed at the 100% rate — remember corps were taxed at 95% in the 1940s to 1970s.

    Then citizens can truly decide for, or against, funding: the ‘alphabet’ people, the govenmental murdurers, the pollution and despoilment of the environment, or support of a judicial or educational system that works against us.

  441. B-Rad says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Agreed. I was writing from a Euroamerican Judeo-Xtian weltanschauung. We need a new science-based religion, perhaps based upon Morphic Resonance and holy egregoric thought forms. This desire for a new, 21st C. religion was also a driving force behind Joseph Campbell’s work.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  442. Hank Yobo says:
    @Alligator Gar

    Wasn’t Saul a Pharisee prior to Damascus? Some believe that card-carrying Pharisees had to be married. If so, the future apostle was not asexual.

  443. @Virgile

    The rectum inner lining is thin (simple columnar epithelium) and this allows lots of medications to get absorbed rectally. Men and women may have anal sex but that doesn’t say that that is a normal function for the rectum. The rectum is a storage area for feces.
    Because the rectal lining is thin, viruses and chemicals can easily pass through. One is prone to disease if they introduce germs into the rectum. These can be papilloma viruses, HIV, Chlamydia, syphilis, and many others.
    I don’t care what homosexuals do with each other but for them to say that what they do is normal is just another modern make believe because it suits me kind of thing. If you want to know what a thing is watch what it does. The rectum does not allow for the production of babies.
    Through all of history the rectum has been the storage area for fecal material.
    It is the homosexuals who are responsible for the spread of HIV and AIDs and they also have once again spread syphilis.
    The other spreaders of disease share needles and inject drugs. Sex without restraint and having many partners and sharing partners promotes the spread of diseases as well as resistant organisms and new organisms.
    The word gay was used for hundreds of years in English and American writings and like many things in modern America the word was stolen by the homosexuals to make them look happy and nice.

  444. MBlanc46 says:
    @Colin Wright

    I tend to use deviant, as it has a non-polemical definition and, statistically, is quite accurate.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  445. SANITYCLAUS says: • Website

    GENDER IS A PHYSICAL REALITY. Pharmacologically/surgically induced gender is an un-natural
    condition and cannot be sanctioned as a natural person’s right because it is a product
    of medical science and not natural endowement. SEXUALITY IS A MATTER OF PERSONAL DESIRE and is not determined by gender or skin color or other physical characteristics.
    The homophobic author of this retarded primitive bible thumping mass murderer article tries to convince the reader that murdering people who engage is same sex relations is something that should be sanctioned using the fraudulant assertion that sexuality and gender are the same thing.
    They author pretends that their misrepresentation of the facts originates with the LBGT…… “community” when there is no such organization.
    SEXUALITY AND GENDER ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. The next step for the
    pharaceutical industry is to sell gene therapy drugs that alter our RACE. Then the adherents of the lie of pharmacalogical race baiting will claim victimhood based upon a pharmacological race they have purchased and is maintained by their use of race drugs. This is one current fraud of the false
    gender pharmacological gender drug market. GENDER IS NOW MARKETED AS A PHARMACOLOGICAL PRODUCT. DO NOT MISTAKE IT FOR SEXUALITY.
    PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS IS A TRAITOR WHO SERVES THE BRITISH EMPIRE NATO U.N. HEROIN MAFIA. PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS AND THE PENTAGON WIPE THEIR ASS WITH OUR DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE BECAUSE THEY ARE TRAITORS WHO HATE AMERICA.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  446. @SANITYCLAUS

    Did you read the article? Or, a more general question, can you read?

  447. Seraphim says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Your religion, atheism, is in competition with the all the other mass-murdering ‘major religions’.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  448. Okechukwu says:
    @Truth

    LMAO! Chuk got you there Malla, just like he got Dog’s Meat Breath.

    What the hell happened to dog meat breath? He was a relentless troll camped out here 24/7 spewing some of the most outlandish nonsense on the entire Internet. I guess he burned himself out.

  449. Okechukwu says:
    @ben sampson

    Malla does appear to be quite fringe, 100% illogical… relative to the general field of biology/genetics/epi genetics that I know.

    Maybe Malla is a victim of the educational system in India. I mean, American grade schoolers can school him on basic biology, genetics and anthropology.

    Malla thinks he’s espousing race realism/HBD (a ridiculous pseudoscience). But even the dumbest HBDer on Unz wouldn’t write the unadulterated fake bullshit Malla keeps posting here.

    This is what happens when these clowns, instead of reading real scientists, real anthropologists, real geneticists and real scholars, rather they gravitate to delusional bloggers who have no educational credentials whatsoever. I mean, even here on Unz you have jokers like Anatoly Karlin, James Thompson, Jayman, Res and the rest writing authoritatively on biology and genetics, having no training in those disciplines at all. And, time and again, their efforts produce material that would get laughed out of every scientific conference on the planet.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  450. FB says: • Website
    @Contumacious

    You disgusting homos just can’t help yourselves can you…?

    You have exactly proved Saker’s point…if you’re a sexual deviant…KEEP IT TO YOURSELF…we normal people do not want to hear about it…shut your bedroom door and stuff cucumbers or whisky bottles up your ass [verified by any emergency department]…BUT DON’T BOTHER US and don’t throw your disgusting aberration in our faces…

    • Replies: @yurivku
    , @Colin Wright
  451. Peter 63 says:

    The Saker has obviously had little or no contact with the thousands of ordinary homosexuals who are pretty much like everyone else in their aspirations, hopes and fears. Most homosexuals just want to carry on their lives and be left alone to love and associate with whoever they choose. Most younger homosexuals these days are not emotionally crippled and dysfunctional and lead responsible lives. Most homosexuals are not militant. I find it extraordinary that the Saker goes along with the antiquated notion that most homosexuals choose to be homosexual. In all my nearly 70 years observation I would say categorically that most homosexuals are born homosexual and didn’t choose to be homosexual.
    Regarding the LGBTQIAPK agenda, this is in line with the globalist plan to abolish normal sex roles and bring in multiple categories to do away with sex altogether and bring in the brave new globalist nightmare world of AI and test tube babies without parents. Aware homosexuals are as horrified with this nonsense as anyone else who is aware of it.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  452. Malla says:
    @Truth

    Well truthie, for a moment I agree with ochkwu. Indian telephone customer service can be pretty bad, beyond bad. This is a fact, I have to agree. That is why I was proposing to replace Indian call center workforce with Nigerian “Princes”, their CVs should include their mugu/maga lists. And the 419 “princes” will feel right at home with the Indian “Official Microsoft Employee” Windows scamsters and the Indian IRS tax scamsters. They could have biryani+wolof rice parties in their offices with all their gains by fooling the mugus.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  453. JackGarbo says:
    @Rational

    So silly and ignorant. About 10% of all mammals, including Christians (though some act like reptiles) are homosexual. It’s natural, so stop frothing and gnashing. Why do they keep turning up in (obviously) heterosexual families? Perhaps an evolutionary anomaly that has a use: “child free” individuals that previously took care of children whose parents were out hunting, killing supper, fighting or died in the process. Evolutionary orphanages and day care centers. All societies have them, even penguins, dolphins. They are not priapic crazies hell bent on piercing your anus. Most I know (in Thailand they walk among us without fear or favor) are average folks just trying to get by.

  454. Remington says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Strawman arguments here. Nobody claimed that Lenin and Trotsky were not in power in their time. The claim is that Stalin was alike only in this single respect. All the while that he did not make any ideological contributions, which Lenin and Trotsky surely did. They did both, Stalin did not. And compared to their post-modern successors, Lenin and Trotsky surely were bona fide intellectuals while dual-tracking as warlords and mass murderers. You have to give them that in the sense that their thoughts did have influence, however misguided and ultimately murderous these thoughts turned out to be, just like any Marxist crap, including “original Marxism”, if such a thing ever existed.

    Stalin did help Hitler to power and instigated WWII. The evidence is all over the place. The Soviet Union under Stalin collaborated closely with the Weimar Republic military, allowing it to circumvent the provisions of the Versailles treaty. Without this collaboration, the Weimar military would have been hopelessly behind once it turned into the Wehrmacht. The period in between the two world wars saw fundamental innovations in warfare. The Weimar military and later the Wehrmacht would have missed out on these developments without Soviet help. Stalin also had the Weimar communists label the Weimar social democrats “social fascists” (a term that very much applied to Stalin himself, BTW), so the communists did not ally themselves with the social democrats, all the time sticking to this label. Stalin provided Nazi Germany with huge amounts of raw materials right up until the eve of the attack in 1941. Molotov, acting under Stalin’s orders, signed the non-aggression pact with Nazi Germany, which duped Hitler into believing that he could wage war in the West, which was exactly what Stalin wanted. Stalin miscalculated in that he did not foresee Germany’s easy victory in the West and Hitler’s willingness to go on a suicide mission against the Soviet Union once he realized what a trap he had fallen into. The ultimate responsibility for untold millions of dead and maimed and the destruction of the Soviet space still lies with Stalin. Hitler and his generals were just too stupid to recognize what Stalin had set up for them when they let their militarism go rampant. They were monumental idiots and acted totally predictably all the time except for that single decision of attacking the Soviet Union.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @AnonFromTN
  455. @Seraphim

    Formally speaking, atheism is a religion, as it claims something that can be neither proved nor disproved. Agnosticism is not a religion, because it does not claim that it knows something that cannot be known. However, if one applies Occam’s razor (e.g., see http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/occam.html), atheism is the scientific view: if there is no way to prove the existence of any of the thousands of gods known to men, including macaroni monster, scientific hypothesis should be that none of them exists.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  456. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Remington

    The ultimate responsibility for untold millions of dead and maimed and the destruction of the Soviet space still lies with Stalin. Hitler and his generals were just too stupid to recognize what Stalin had set up for them when they let their militarism go rampant.

    You can speculate all you like about what Stalin’s intentions might have been and what Hitler’s intentions might have been. But you can’t convict someone based on speculation about what he may have been intending to do. You can only get a conviction based on the facts. And the facts are undeniable. Germany started the war with the Soviet Union by invading that country.

    So the ultimate responsibility for untold millions of dead and maimed and the destruction of the Soviet space unquestionably lies with Hitler.

    • Replies: @Remington
  457. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Dude, don’t even compare low IQ Indian tech support scammers to genius Nigerian scammers. Of course, I don’t condone the scams, but one must acknowledge the sophistication, the genius of many of the Nigerian crooks.

    While low-IQ Indian scammers work the phones trying to steal a few bucks from little old ladies, the Nigerians take down Western companies for millions and sometimes hundreds of millions of dollars a pop.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @annamaria
    , @Malla
  458. @Remington

    I do not argue with people who claim that two times two equals five and a half. The psychiatrists I know say that the first rule of psychiatrists is “never argue with a patient”.

  459. @Okechukwu

    Are there still idiots who believe Nigerian scammers?

  460. Remington says:
    @dfordoom

    The facts are thus: The German attack was entirely preventive and would never have gone so well if the Red Army had not moved gigantic masses of troops and material right up to the border in preparation of its own attack. Remember that the Wehrmacht was largely horse-drawn, that its tanks were inferior to Soviet ones, and that it totally lacked any long-range heavy bombers. The list goes on and on. It was a suicide mission but it saved the whole of Europe from becoming communist. Then I gave you a rundown of some facts regarding the prehistory. The picture in its entirety becomes even more conclusive if you factor in what the Americans and British did to instigate WWII. They all had the same idea of pitting other powers against each other. But Stalin bears the responsibility for the Soviet losses and horrific Soviet war crimes against Germans. Historians have analyzed all of that in minute detail.

    • Agree: Malla
    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  461. annamaria says:
    @Okechukwu

    “While low-IQ Indian scammers work the phones trying to steal a few bucks from little old ladies, the Nigerians take down Western companies for millions and sometimes hundreds of millions of dollars a pop.”
    The Nigerian filth is also good at playing on peoples’ sympathies and robbing these people. Quite a reputation. No hearts. No decency. Nigerian scum.
    https://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2018/06/nigerian_scammers_targeted_in.html
    https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/14/18225022/scarlet-widow-agari-nigerian-romance-scam-report
    https://www.investopedia.com/articles/pf/08/stop-scams.asp

    • Replies: @ben sampson
  462. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Of course my good man, Nigerian high IQ genius scammers are da stuff of legend. What geniuses, woah.
    Unfortunately some of them get scambaited. They take the bait hook, line & sinka.
    Let us see some geniuses in action shall we, the scam baiters make these idiots ….er sorry, geniuses send back their photos.

    From 419eaters scam baiter site (where da scammars are scammed)
    https://419eater.com/html/trophy_room.htm

    Let us see these brilliant geniuses in action. Since there are no geniuses in India, we are always curious about the actions of genius, but Nigeria the land of geniuses satisfied our curiosity by giving us a peek of their geniuses.

    High IQ Genius number 1 : Babatope

    High IQ Genius number 2: Ojukwu Damisa (Ojukwu, is dat you?)

    High IQ Genius number 3: Akin Jacob

    High IQ Genius number 4: Kadijat Jubril

    High IQ Genius number 5: Ebunoluwa Akinboboye

    Why cant we do all that “genius actions”?

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
    , @Jester
  463. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    The low IQ Indian scammers talk in weird accents that nobody can understand anyway, trying to bilk senior citizens with Alzheimer’s of a few dollars here and there. They do not show this level of sophistication:

    Web-savvy [Nigerian] crime syndicates are figuring out ways to bilk U.S. citizens of billions.

    On Monday, the FBI announced the arrest of 74 people across the world — including 29 people in Nigeria and 41 in the United States — who authorities say were part of complex international networks that combed filings by the Securities and Exchange Commission, spoofed CEO emails and successfully targeted even hardened employees whose jobs are to safeguard their companies from financial mismanagement.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/06/12/its-time-to-stop-laughing-at-nigerian-scammers-because-theyre-stealing-billions-of-dollars/?utm_term=.d248b8710fbe

    While the Indians are trying to steal $5, Nigerian geniuses are pulling off extravaganzas like this:

    Nigerian prosecutors leveled 86 counts of fraud and conspiracy against five people Thursday for swindling a Brazilian bank of $242 million, in the biggest crackdown yet on the West African nation’s advance-fee fraud or “419” scams.

    The five are accused of luring an employee of Sao Paulo’s Banco Noroeste into siphoning off the funds from his employer, persuading him he could land a share in a lucrative Nigerian construction contract if he just paid enough handling fees up-front.

    http://faroutliers.blogspot.com/2004/02/five-nigerians-charged-in-242-million.html

    I’m glad these ingenious crooks are being caught. Although the vast majority of 419ers never get caught.

    • Replies: @Malla
  464. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Are any of those geniuses from post 476 involved?

  465. @annamaria

    the Nigerians appear to have learned from the best annamaria to be heartless from the best.

    you read a white woman annamaria so that would be your people, the best most heartless and relentless scammers and killers ever…. of whom the best, the pinnacle are the Khazars..who have been bleeding us all for a thousand years now.

  466. @B-Rad

    What’s with the fetish about not writing the name Christ?

    Do you also refer to the Prophet X-hamad and the religion of X-lam?

    It’s distracting and serves no apparent purpose.

  467. @AnonFromTN

    That is a sound distinction between atheism and agnosticism.

    But how is atheism the inherently scientific or logical choice? It leaves no creator or cause of all of existence, all matter/energy.

    Agnosticism seems more reasonable and doesn’t project unwarranted certainty about something we can’t (yet, if ever) know with certainty — in contrast to both theism and atheism.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @Seraphim
  468. @Peter 63

    What’s the medical or genetic evidence that leads you to be so sure that homosexuality is always congenital and never chosen?

    It doesn’t seem like we are close to answering that question scientifically yet.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  469. @MBlanc46

    ‘I tend to use deviant, as it has a non-polemical definition and, statistically, is quite accurate.’

    Indeed. But then, why should you scruple to be ‘non-polemical,’ when your opponents are shamelessly polemical?

    ‘Gay,’ ‘haters,’ ‘love,’ ‘deplorables,’ ‘bigots,’ — whatever loaded terms they can summon up, they use.

    So do you actually think you have a better strategy — or are you just trying to win a fight with one hand tied behind your back?

    Considering the above, I prefer ‘pervert.’ It, too, is quite accurate.

  470. @FB

    ‘…shut your bedroom door and stuff cucumbers or whisky bottles up your ass…’

    ! I’ve got all these cucumbers coming ripe, too. The neighbors will only take so many.

    The curse of living in non-PortlandEugene Oregon. So many cucumbers, so few faggots.

    • LOL: FB
  471. @RadicalCenter

    You are correct. Agnosticism is “safer”, as it claims nothing whatsoever. Atheism is “scientific” to the extent that Occam’s razor is “scientific”. Say, as a scientist I would say that my kettle does not boil simply because I did not turn on the gas, whereas as a mystic (from the very early primitive animists, all theists are essentially mystics) I can say that my neighbor put a spell on my kettle, gas, and myself. Basically, Occam’s razor means that you want to explain what you observe using the simplest possible model, without introducing unnecessary hypotheses. Like Laplace said when asked where is God in his model of the Solar system: “I did not need that hypothesis”.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  472. Most of the evidence regarding same sex behavior points away from any genetic marker. And there is strong evidence that contradicts the contend entirely.

    Because I am single and its embarrassing for a guy who defends marriage and hoped to be married to admit my singleness as a life failure, the question invariably comes up about my choice of expression. In 1993 or 1994 i filled out a conference form indicating my signifcant other. At the time I had no idea that significant other was a another way of identifying as homosexual. The consequences of that application, constant exchanges with others and something related to a friend of mine took me down the road of researching the subject. Apparently even that makes one suspect, hard to imagine that years ago research was just research and that academic inquire and discussion was typical trigger warning or not.

    At any rate, there’s a lot of bizarre arguments using very strange evidence that said expression is acceptable and healthy. Among them, the contend that said behavior was normal because it was a common manner of humiliating one’s enemy after a conflict —

    Several of the psychiatrists at the 1973 conference dared risk righting their thoughts about what took place as well as their psychiatric view of the behavior. The findings that stands out the most to me are the studies in Australia that found that as men grew older, they opted

    “opted” mind you to adopt a lifestyle that was traditional that included one wife and having children and found themselves content and happy. If in fact, the matter was innate rooted in biology, I think it is safe to say, they would not have been satisfied.

    Researchers in the field have never located any biological component to explain the choice of expression.

    Laughing I won’t mention the historical study because it references the indoctrination of slaves and how that is reflected in the behavior. It’s clear that introducing that research and analysis would cause some of your heads to explode.

  473. annamaria says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Work in progress.

    “Multimodal MRI suggests that male homosexuality may be linked to cerebral midline structures:” https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0203189

    “Neural correlates of sexual orientation in heterosexual, bisexual, and homosexual men:” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5286516/

    “A difference in hypothalamic structure between heterosexual and homosexual men.” https://science.sciencemag.org/content/253/5023/1034

    “Genome-wide Association study of male sexual orientation:” https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-15736-4

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  474. “Work in progress.”

    And each of these studies

    sample sizes far to small

    conclusions are typically: suggests, might be, maybe related to . . . need for further study . . .

    And numerous of these studies have been out right fraud.

    There is no study that can’t be couched in could have, might be’s . . . that is not really at issue. What is at issue the constant refrain by interested researchers to make a case with studies that don’t support their conclusions. Implications are not definitive.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  475. Jester says:
    @Malla

    Hey Malla, anyone with an idiot name like Okaychukuchuku has got to be a genius too !!

    His partner in stupid comments is Ben Sampson, another moron who combines a Joo first name with that of a biblical personage who got a disastrous haircut from a woman.

    What a pair of nincompoop partners. One posing as a Bantu tribesman and another as a J00 each trying to out do the other in terms of retarded brain functions. These chimps live in the US most likely because their fellow tree dwellers have demolished their habitat in the Congo and the white man is and always will be their best option for at least living in a reasonable slum in America with the usual spate of handouts. Unz ought to create an award for these 2 boneheads. It could be called the Monkey Bananas awards to acknowledge their resemblance to and IQ of apes.

    Their comments make little sense and they would be better off tending cows in the Serengetti. When I went to Africa on safari I saw a bunch of them living in trees and eating leaves. Before I left on my trip I also looked at a movie about them called “Tarzan and the Ape Men”

    Remember that in a society of darkies where the average IQ is 5 all you need is a 7 to stand out from the crowd.

    • Replies: @ben sampson
    , @Malla
  476. Jester says:
    @annamaria

    Okechululu wears a blond weave and takes skin whitener treatment. He has also had surgery to reduce his monstrous lips and lower protruding jaw, useful on the savanna for crunching leaves and small rodents and the WHITE doctors also altered his nose. Unfortunately, the procedure involved grabbing all his skin, pulling it tight over his head and tying it with a jungle vine. He now looks much more handsome than before. The bad news is his navel is on his forehead and his arse is behind his head and that is also why his comments are usually s##t.

    • Agree: Malla
  477. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Remington

    The facts are thus: The German attack was entirely preventive

    The fact is Hitler attacked. He started the war. You’re trying to argue that he was justified in doing so. That’s purely a matter for opinion. Maybe Stalin also thought he was justified in starting the war, but he didn’t.

    If you go into a bar and punch someone in the face you have to accept the responsibility. It’s no good arguing that the other guy was secretly planning to punch you. The fact is he didn’t punch you. You punched him.

    Hitler started a war with the Soviet Union. He lost. End of story.

    • Replies: @Remington
  478. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:

    This free book posted online by Ryan Sorba is a MUST READ:

    https://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/08a/born_gay_hoax/TheBornGayHoax.pdf

    The website is massresistance, which is a great organization that fights the LGBTQ agenda.

  479. @annamaria

    The law should permit people to read and do anything in private I will read these, along with the short book that is linked at massresistance.org by another commenter. Thank you, annamaria.

    I’ll add that whether homosexuality can be shown to be genetically determinable (or caused by chemicals or hormones in utero), it is a defect and not to be encouraged, glamorized, or treated as an equally good outcome.

    People should be discouraged from acting out the inherently unhygienic, unhealthy, non-productive practices that necessarily characterize homosexual sex. (For that matter, heterosexuals should be discouraged from anal and oral sex as well on medical if not moral grounds.).

    I’m not talking about criminalizing those practices. Just let’s stop pretending that it is in any way a desirable state, consistent with good health, consistent with proper balanced raising of children, or conducive to the survival and flourishing of one’s family or nation.

    At a minimum, we could use a law like Russia’s that prohibits pro-homosexual material aimed at or viewable by minors. This should encompass an end to displays of homosexuality in public view, such as the sickening ads that were plastered around LA bus stops with one man lying on another man on a couch contentedly checking their bank account on the smartphone.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @annamaria
  480. “At a minimum, we could use a law like Russia’s that prohibits pro-homosexual material aimed at or viewable by minors.”

    There was such an attempt in CA in education. It passed.

    Gov. Reagan vetoed it.

    I think the best that one can hope for at the moment is something that reinforces an individuals right not to participate in the celebrations, i.e. no dragging photographers, bakers, florists and other business enterprises by to serve them. Since the behavior is considered normative, attempts at the kind of censorship you suggest probably won’t get a nod.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  481. @Jester

    pheeeeeeeeew! the comic found his way in and has let loose..a creative genius of analysis.
    go bwoy jester! you found a court so play!

    here! enjoy. don’t say I never gave you anything.

    I found this on a tree in the Congo between the aids and ebola let loose by the yankees. it must have taken some branch hopping to make a kora in the meantime.

    listen, relax and civilize yourself

    • Replies: @Malla
  482. its for annamaria too..and Malla!

    oh mi god! 3 such congregated on Unz..a benighted sigh it seems..so many like these 3.

    maybe Keita and Catrin can help them all

  483. @EliteCommInc.

    It is clear that your knowledge of science is at the level of Hollywood movies. Scientists always use “suggests”, “maybe”, “possibly”, etc., and the results always call for further research. A scientist claiming that s/he established the Truth with a capital T by doing that stops being a scientist and becomes a preacher.
    AnonFromTN

    • Agree: annamaria
  484. Malla says:
    @Remington

    Better get the Soviets in the Eastern wastelands before the Soviets get you on to your autobahns. There were 6 nations involved in operation Barbarossa, not just Germany. Also 30,000 Spaniards volunteered to fight for the Axis forces. These Spaniards had seen the brutality of the Red scum in Spain during the civil war and did not want it to ever happen again.

  485. Malla says:
    @Jester

    LOL. You are spot on about Ochuku and Benny.

  486. @Colin Wright

    You’d have to be a retard to call them idiots.

  487. Malla says:
    @Remington

    Hey have you read “Stalin’s Other War” by Albert L Weeks, PhD who did exhaustive research and verified everything Suvorov put forth. That Stalin did plan to attack the Third Reich to put most of Europe under Communist tyranny, had a huge military buildup at the borders of the Third Reich & Romania and Hitler and his allies just did a preemptive strike when they came to know about this buildup and plans.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @yurivku
  488. @Malla

    Did Santa Claus bring you the gifts you asked for? Or was he put off by your sniveling?

    • Replies: @Malla
  489. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Not all people can accept harsh facts. Thus they blabber bullshit and waste everybody’s precious time. A psychiatrist could be helpful.

  490. “It is clear that your knowledge of science is at the level of Hollywood movies. Scientists always use “suggests”, “maybe”, “possibly”, etc., and the results always call for further research. A scientist claiming that s/he established the Truth with a capital T by doing that stops being a scientist and becomes a preacher.”

    Hmmmm . . .

    this makes no sense to me. Not being facetious. I just need something clearer.

    My view in short is this, no research has found a “steady state” biological determinant for the behavior in question. And studies that call note implications or areas for more research as these studies routinely do having not found said marker are often used as evidence for a biological trait.

    That they note implication., suggestions for further study is appropriate and common — but the researchers usually go beyond what the data indicates.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  491. Malla says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Did Santa Claus bring you the gifts you asked for?

    No, I asked for ‘Das Capital’ but Santa got me ‘Stalin’s Other War’. Santa also did a ‘Seig Heil’ before climbing up the chimney.

    • LOL: Mike P
    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  492. Malla says:
    @ben sampson

    relative to the general field of biology/genetics/epi genetics that I know.

    “That I know” LOL.

  493. I am in agreement that finding a biological marker would still not make the behavior normative. It would still reside outside the norm.

    I also agree that what two consenting adults engage regarding expression is none of my business. However, when advocates decide to advocate the behavior in some measure of public policy or standing then the public has every right to express their view. As in the case of marriage the dynamic of this relationship is no more benefit to community than being single, and as such reserves no special sanction or protections/benefits.

    We provide special benefit for marriage because of what that dynamic provides to the greater community as model and as actual benefit as in children and child rearing.

  494. Malla says:
    @ben sampson

    Malla does appear to be quite fringe, 100% illogical

    Watch that video. Each and every point has a scientific paper citation.

  495. @Malla

    You were a bad (boy/girl/politically correct it) then, probably did not drink your milk or did not eat you broccoli. Behave yourself next year.

    • Replies: @Malla
  496. @EliteCommInc.

    You want certainty? Then go to any church (denomination does not matter; it does not have to be Christian, either), or to a rally of commies or Nazis. Don’t go anywhere near science. If you prefer reality, then forget certainty. It’s like weather forecast: the probabilities are known, but nobody knows whether it is going to rain.

    BTW, speaking of heritable features and normality: an extra 21st chromosome (the cause of Down syndrome) is heritable, but that does not make Downs normal. All genetic disorders are heritable, but that does not make sufferers normal. I hope you get the drift.

  497. @EliteCommInc.

    You’re right. For sure it won’t happen in Cali and many other States.

    Maybe that measure, and other useful ones, could be enacted after California secedes.

    Most of the country will be “California” by then, though — and with worse weather and worse weed…. LOL

  498. Malla says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Thanks of the (same boring) advice, Grandma. I will think bout it.

  499. Seraphim says:
    @AnonFromTN

    But you can say that your neighbour put a spell on you, making you to forget to turn the gas on (or to turn the gas without lighting it).

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  500. Seraphim says:
    @RadicalCenter

    But every agnostic knows with certitude that he exists, that he has to eat and drink, where to get his food from (even when he does not produce it himself). He knows that he would die, even if he refuses to know whether he would go to Paradise or to Hell.

  501. Malla says:
    @ben sampson

    Thanks Benny, that is beautiful music. Very interesting looking Senegalese harp too. Looks like a cross in between an European harp and Indian Sitar.
    However this music does not change facts as I mentioned..

    • Replies: @ben sampson
  502. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Maybe Malla is a victim of the educational system in India.

    I had my education in three countries including two European countries.
    Besides, the Indian Education system also gave us the CEOs of Google and Microsoft. They were both educated in India in their youth.

    • Replies: @ben sampson
  503. yurivku says:
    @Malla

    I should confirm that even Okechululu has little more brains than you, poor stupid.

  504. the Indian Education system also gave us the CEOs of Google and Microsoft

    And so? Hope they don’t crash them into obscurity like some yahoo. There’ll be new IT companies coming up to overtake these and they won’t be run by Indians. Now if they were smart enough that’s what they’d be doing, creating better than Windows or google instead of just hiring themselves out to what will inevitably one day be failing companies. Or better still, how about getting into the space travel industry, constructing one huge spaceship, or a fleet of them, packing all the Indians inside and blasting off to wherever in outer space to colonise new worlds on other planets, and leave us all alone. Now that would be a blast and we’d wave to them as they fly off. At least the world’s oceans would recover from all the untreated sewage and filth those open sewers, the great rivers of India, daily pump into them. And don’t forget to give free tickets on those spaceships to your diaspora on other continents.

    • Replies: @Malla
  505. “You want certainty?”

    When it comes acknowledging facts — certainty. When it comes using facts to make policy — absolute certainty. You cannot say it is a fact that those engaged in this form of expression are precon’ed to do so by biology and then use speculation as fact —

    And that is what the current researchers and apparently you intend. Essentially your argument is

    It’s speculation, it’s suggestion, it might be, it could be, perhaps . . . and any number of those used singularly or repeatedly in a body of research toy want to be used as established fact for that which have not proven to be a fact.

    And here I must have a bit of a laugh. Because science is predicated on getting to certainty to such exactness that the ultimate test for its veracity is the ability to predict. Laugh relying on science data and then saying

    “It’s a fact. Well, it might be a fact. Well we think it’s a fact. Well, it could be a fact. It might well be maybe a fact, if . . .”

    In the real world what you have is a theory — not a fact. Fudging the facts to advance a theory is called fraud. Fudging the theory and the facts to make conclusions not based on the accurate model or findings not only invalidates the modeling, but invalidates or skews the conclusions.

    Anyone proclaiming the value of science to any construct who at the same time decrying certainty — probably should not be doing science.

    ——————————————

    When someone walks into a Doctors office, they are expecting certainties about their health. And physician who says, I think you have cancer, but there is no sign of cancer is going to be looked at with a jaundiced eye.

    Science is the search for certainty.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  506. Laughing

    “Most of the country will be “California” by then, though — and with worse weather and worse weed…. ”

    And that’s not funny.

    Laugh. At least it shouldn’t be.

  507. @Malla

    I was about to mention that you do appear to have some ability… but why are you here spending so much time at Unz if you are so much?

    of course that is a question to ignore..this is an anon board..even that is too far, way too fa on this thread already. let me apologize for for my attack then. it was silly of me

    I enjoy the lil intellectual jousting here..good exercise for an old man. and I hold nothing absolute. humans don’t know very much and hate to accept what is obvious..like nature as basic and decisive and move with nature as base.

    as a result we insult nature, piss on it, pollute it, poison it, deny our mother in every way especially as mother… preferred to create and insert a fictitious man in the sky and pray to him..the divisive devilish idiot. we should be in a perpetual learning mode but we are not. we are like Malla who knows everything..absolutely

    there I went again. but oh well. its Saturday anyway..a warm one already. I am out soon for the day..by the lake, big cool waters, some almonds, books, ‘raydio’, and water to drink.

    enjoy Malla. peace!

    ps: tell the jousting Jester for me that Ben Sampson in its creation had nothing to do with Jews.

    I had run into the Unz review..read Ron Unz and was impressed by his intellectual size and production. then I read an article by John Derbyshire and got pissed at that ‘impse’ (short for IMP haha) Derbyshire, and felt compelled to respond.

    well there was the name Ben on the net by the side, handy.

    and searching for a title I settled on Sampson. why Sampson..incredibly I had been looking at pins Pineterest sent me of mixed families, and I love to see Kim Kardashian and her children..she and Kanye West, a most interesting couple indeed. I love Kim Kadashian..that whole female family in fact.

    Kim Kardashian reminds of the impression of Delilah I have, of a raven haired beauty, implanted in my brain by the incredibly beautiful Elizabeth Taylor so long ago. and of course I am male.. a short step to Sampson of the haircut

    Ben Sampson has nothing at all to do with Jews otherwise as a formative impetus …an immediate search for a name that’s all… and the people on my mind from immediate previous activity, the memories they sparked.

    those are popular names now anyway, part of the human collective possession and usable as any and all see fit to use them. those names can be used no without the slightest relativity to Jews save as the generative factor of the names themselves

    • Replies: @Malla
  508. “It’s like weather forecast: the probabilities are known, but nobody knows whether it is going to rain.”

    Now you are talking about probability that a certain construct is this or that. No doubt the issue of probabilities are helpful. But you don’t have enough data to get to the probabilities of certainty on this matter.

    But we do know that Down Syndrome has biological markers. And I think we agree that said markers do not mean any said condition is normal.

  509. @Malla

    I have a lil more for you Malla…. if the mods permit

    here is a real African princess..an African Meghan. a white English woman married into one of the families of the 5 Griot families entrusted for centuries to keep the story and culture of the the people safe. the white English woman produce with her Griot husband Sona, a magnificent woman, brilliant, articulate, fully educated in all she is relative to..English and African, and beautiful.

    take a look at her..and her music

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sona+jobarteh+

    that’s the future of the human species Malla, mixed all to heaven, in excelsis, learning and doing all the time, making ourselves secure and indefinite in existence, in sync with god..nature, our mother.. having put out the fake violent fathers generated from the equally fake Abraham by our JOO brothers..to permanent rest

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @annamaria
  510. of course Jobarteh is based in the Kora..which is why I put her up.

    the Kora is a magnificent old, old old African musical instrument. it takes a long time to master that instrument..if it is ever mastered at all. and she is as good as anyone, carrying on her tradition

  511. ““It’s like weather forecast: the probabilities are known, but nobody knows whether it is going to rain.”

    probabilities are not fact.

  512. @Seraphim

    Sure. If I were a true mystic, I can even say that the Devil himself (or aliens from Nibiru) took over my neighbor’s brain and made him/her put that spell. If you dispense with reality, the possibilities are boundless.

  513. Anonymous[928] • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter

    I really do encourage people to visit the most active, intelligent, and tough organization that fights the horrible LGBT agenda:

    http://WWW.MassResistance.org

    There are chapters all around the country and world now.

  514. @EliteCommInc.

    Yes, scientists go beyond observations by formulating theories. These theories do have predictive value (say, like Newton’s mechanics) – that’s why they are testable, in sharp contrast to the “theories” of various mystics. Then we encounter situations where the predictions contradict the reality. Scientists in this case come up with new theories (say, like Einstein’s mechanics, wherein Newton’s is a good approximation at low speeds). Scientists know full well that at some point this new theory will encounter a similar problem and will have to be replaced with a newer one. That’s why scientists never claim that they know the Truth with a capital T. In contrast, when the theory clashes with reality, a preacher would just go hysterical and thump one “holy” book or another, calling you heretic, apostate, or whatever other word comes to his/her deranged mind. You cannot expect anything else from militant ignorance.

    BTW, if public policy could only be based on certainty, there would be no public policy whatsoever. Problem is, that would also be public policy. Worse yet, it would be based on total uncertainty.

    PS. Doctors must lie. They must pretend that they know for sure, whereas they do not. Otherwise patients wouldn’t pay them so much. In reality, the pathologist is the best diagnostician, and all doctors know that (but won’t tell you).

  515. ” . . . scientists go beyond observations by formulating theories. These theories do have predictive value (say, like Newton’s mechanics) – that’s why they are testable, in sharp contrast to the “theories” of various mystics. ”

    i am not going to stray off into the weeds about science. There is not evidence, there is evidence to even suggest that people who engage in same sex behavior do as the result of biology – none.

    We are not talking about existential truth but had concrete data. And no data suggests that same sex relational behavior is determined by any biological determinet. If anything the data contradicts the contend.

    This is not about Newtonian Physics or Einstein’s positioning on Quantuum Mechanics,

  516. ” . . . if public policy could only be based on certainty, there would be no public policy whatsoever. Problem is, that would also be public policy. Worse yet, it would be based on total uncertainty.”

    Nonsense. Excuse my absolute certainty here

  517. correction: There is not evidence, there is no evidence to even suggest that people who engage in same sex behavior do as the result of biology – none.

    Double post unintended

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  518. @EliteCommInc.

    I don’t know, never worked in that area. As a biologically normal male interested exclusively in females I believe that to make a male attracted to another male, something very fundamental must be broken. In my case even a thought of another male being a potential sexual partner causes gag reflex.

    As a biologist I also know that genes predisposing a person to schizophrenia, which in and of itself is very much maladaptive, exist in the population at a constant frequency. This suggests that these genes are not selected against, i.e., they must give an evolutionary advantage in something. It’s like sickle-cell anemia: heterozygotes are resistant to malaria, whereas homozygotes are sick. So, nature trades off the loss of a quarter of a population for the resistance to malaria of half of population. Things like that often happen in populations, ask any population geneticist (an honest one, someone who does not have political agenda).

    However, I don’t know about predisposition to homosexuality. It is almost impossible to study it honestly in Western societies today. But homosexuality is highly unlikely to be by “choice”, as any healthy male would be disgusted by the idea.

    • Replies: @Mike P
  519. Remington says:
    @dfordoom

    It’s a funny thing about these Marxist apologists. They claim that Marxism brings deeps “scientific” insight into history, the economy, society and whatever else, insight that they claim cannot be obtained on the basis of “beourgois” historiography, economic theory, sociology etc. (And it’s even funnier that this “science” has to be kept “original” ie the way in which Marx concocted it in the 19th century whereas the “beourgois” sciences have seen revolutionary progress since then.) Yet, at the same time, they cannot form a theory about WWII, based on simple facts and deductions. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, Marxists are still telling us that it’s not a duck, like they always do, both classical and cultural Marxists. Instead, the usual boy scout theory of WWII is being peddled here: “Hitler attacked the Soviet Union, end of story.” Pure Stalinist propaganda. Not only was the Soviet Union on the verge of attacking the axis powers, there was also a historical pattern to it in that its predecessor state Russia mobilized on the eve of WWI without declaring war. The pattern even includes monumental stupidity on the German side. The Kaiser and his government declared war on Russia once they realized what was going on. The difference was that Russia then actually attacked only to get beaten at the battle of Tannenberg. Hitler and his generals, once realizing what situation they had been goaded into, did not want to take any chances anymore. The Soviet Union in 1941 was a totally different animal than Russia in 1914. It had continued the Russian drive westward right after WWI by attacking Poland, only to be stopped at the battle of Warsaw. It had tried to instigate a communist takeover in Germany, it was using the Komintern for the express purpose of conducting world revolution, it had committed horrific and wide-ranging atrocities against its own people (atrocities that were later repeated against Germans), it had intervened to achieve a communist takeover in Spain, it had attacked Finland, the list goes on and on. The simple fact is that the Soviet forces were totally configured for attacking in all respects. After seeing how Germany had conducted war in the West, the prudent thing would have been to keep the bulk of Soviet forces inland, away from the border. That was actually how Soviet forces were deployed prior to them being moved westward and southward. The curious disposition of Soviet forces just prior to the axis attack is already the dead giveaway of what Stalin’s intentions really were.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  520. The evidence concerning schizophrenia, sickle-cell anemia and other illnesses have known biological factors.

    The desire in humans is pretty darn near universal. Desiring what is a matter of choice.

    When you locate that steady state biological trait, I think it will be legitimate to make that case. Until then any suggestions that the choice is biologically determined is theoretical and not science fact. Until then making a case that biology is the cause based on suggestion, maybe, if, further study and if would not just misleading, but false.

    And introducing said studies as evidence of a steady state biological trait are therefore misleading and incorrect.

    And as you note, would still indicate a broken state, out of the norm condition.

  521. Malla says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Of course we are hyped up by the Jew bankers in the West. But the Jew bankers & their media hype up blacks too. It was just am answer to ochwuku where he said that Indian education system is so bad that one coming out of it would not even understand the basics of anthropology or genetics. That is obviously rubbish.

  522. Malla says:
    @ben sampson

    but why are you here spending so much time at Unz if you are so much?

    Learning from smart people who frequent this website and who write for this website. Occasionally I get triggered to comment when I see people write nonsense. You can learn more from Unz.com in day than you could learn from your mainstream media in years.

    as a result we insult nature, piss on it, pollute it, poison it, deny our mother in every way especially as mother… preferred to create and insert a fictitious man in the sky and pray to him..

    I agree with you on this Ben. Your comment shows you are a thinking man. But the problem is we want the benefits of advanced civilization that comes with a cost. At the same time the population of greedy humans has increased enormously for the last few centuries. Could we maintain an advanced civilization by minimizing our destruction of Mother Earth. Sure. But most humans are greedy short term thinking scumbags. And most of the elites running the world are even more so. These rich elites probably imagine their kids in the future, would live in controlled atmospheric domes while the rest of the world turns to a big polluted slum.

  523. Malla says:
    @ben sampson

    that’s the future of the human species Malla, mixed all to heaven, in excelsis, learning and doing all the time, making ourselves secure and indefinite in existence, in sync with god..nature, our mother.

    I do not think mixing of the human race is a good idea. The Satanic elites want it for some reason. There is no reason why the White race or the East Asian race should not exist as they are. Thanks for the video.

    • Replies: @ben sampson
  524. Mike P says:
    @AnonFromTN

    As a biologist I also know that genes predisposing a person to schizophrenia, which in and of itself is very much maladaptive, exist in the population at a constant frequency. This suggests that these genes are not selected againsti.e., they must give an evolutionary advantage in something.

    It’s an interesting thought. Alternatively though, these genes might exist at steady state, such that de novo emergence by mutation balances selection against them.

    It’s like sickle-cell anemia: heterozygotes are resistant to malaria, whereas homozygotes are sick. So, nature trades off the loss of a quarter of a population for the resistance to malaria of half of population.

    It is important to note that those proportions only apply if the allele frequency (the proportion of all copies of the gene that encode the defective hemoglobin molecule; let’s call it f) is 1/2. At lower allele frequencies, the ratio of manifestly sick individuals to healthy carriers will be lower (converging toward f/2 with decreasing f). Even where malaria is endemic and thus the selective advantage of sickle cell anemia is strong, f always remains well below 1/2.

    Things like that often happen in populations, ask any population geneticist (an honest one, someone who does not have political agenda).

    Most scientists I know are politically naive and don’t have an agenda – they simply lack the backbone to stand up to the agendas imposed on them from the outside. One must note that the entire academic system with its usually conformist journal editors, hyper-competitive funding schemes, short funding cycles etc. has been rigged to select such compliance and submissiveness. An extreme example of such degeneracy is the current state of climate “science” (and this field indeed seems to be swamped with “scientists” like Michael Mann and Phil Jones who wholeheartedly endorse the agenda).

    However, I don’t know about predisposition to homosexuality. It is almost impossible to study it honestly in Western societies today. But homosexuality is highly unlikely to be by “choice”, as any healthy male would be disgusted by the idea.

    I agree with this. While in some individuals homosexuality may be triggered or promoted by some sort of seduction or abuse in formative years, there are simply too many instances of spontaneous occurrence in what looks very much like intact, decent families to me, ones with very little chance of intrusion by homosexual catholic priests or other perverts.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  525. @Malla

    ethnic mixing predated any idea of class advantage that may be gained by promoting it by our elites.

    and ethnic mixing is not up to you Malla. you have no say in the matter

    do you imagine that Kanye and Kim would have considered your disagreement had they known about it before they got married? do you think they would have also awaited elitist encouragement and sanction as well?

    ethnic groups mix and match as long as they are in proximity and get to know each other. and their offspring always evince some order of hybrid vigor that can often be rather nice.and as often some excellent and enhanced human skills and physical/biological beings.

    I once saw the football quarterback of the Kansas City Chiefs play and I was stunned. I used to think that the skills of Robert Griffin the third were unsurpassed and could not be surpassed as a football quarterback. then I saw this kid and you have to see him to believe it. I have never, ever, seen any such high level of sports skills, ability, in anyone before..in any sport. forget words: you have to see to him to believe.

    his name is Patrick Mahommes and his parents are Black and White. look around you and see. and that was happening from as long as there were different ethnic groups of the human species. Alexandre Dumas, Ludwig Van Beethoven, Alexander S Pushkin..look at what these people have done and do. like Mahommes these 3 for eg are basic, the root of things that they do. Pushkin created and set up an entire literature of what has evolved into a great country and people

    when these facts, when reality is considered..your point of view on ‘race-mixing’ makes no sense at all. just take a look at where Black and white really meet and see what the results are..in the USA. there has just been a Mixed obviously Black American president..Obama. and there were at at least 4 more before him one of which Lincoln..a notorious hater of his own people..looked the part. Jefferson did not look too much the part, neither did Eisenhower. you would have to see Eisenhower’s mother to know his ancestry.

    Warren Harding also was obviously mixed.

    there have been 5 African American presidents..including Obama… but you of course would not know that. and every european royal family were/are mixed. and look how racist are the northern Italians but south of Rome they say the country is obviously mulatto

    the more I look at the situation the more your point of view makes little sense. and I have to review mine. all of Asia was Black..all of it. the current Asian population is beyond any doubt at all derived from mixing of Black and whit..even you a Hindu I presume?

    I can see the white invasion from the north mixing the hell out of India, petering out about middle India, so northern Indians are lighter of complexion than the south.. which remains more African phenotype

    reality is way beyond any conception such as yours Malla. you yourself are mixed already, ages and ages ago. reality is also beyond elitist manipulation and what they plan for by pushing the ethnic groups together they wont get. what they are more likely to get is a giant ‘sooprise’: you know, like “Candy: A ‘sooprise’ package on a bright clear sunny day/and wrapped up tight”

    hahahaha

    • Agree: Okechukwu
    • LOL: eah
  526. ” . . . there are simply too many instances of spontaneous occurrence . . .”

    Now I have just about everything.

  527. “” . . . there are simply too many instances of spontaneous occurrence . . .”

    Now I have heard just about everything.

    Laughing. So Frank is walking in the park with his girl friend, out of the corner of his eye spots Bill and suddenly

    . . . viola he suddenly realizes he’s rather have relations with men. And in the analysis of a biological marker — that marker just kicked when he saw Bill.

    Anything is possible, but if you make claims about a biologic determinent — whether at birth, or flipped on spying the right person —- evidence is required.

  528. @Mike P

    As far as I know (I am not a geneticist) the frequency of spontaneous mutations is pretty low. It won’t be enough to replenish these genes if they were selected against. Basically, it the frequency of spontaneous mutations was high enough, negative (or positive, for that matter) selection would be impossible. So, we wouldn’t even reach the stage of archaebacteria, not to mention anything more sophisticated.

    You are right, there are “scientists” embracing and supporting political agenda, like human role in climate change, and fudging data to fit the agenda. Thank goodness, those are rare. Most do what I do: don’t touch PC-related issues or AIDS research with a ten-foot pole.

    You are right about mutant hemoglobin that, when homozygous, causes sickle cell anemia: that gene is not very frequent in the population, so the breeding of two heterozygotes (which can yield homozygotes) is rare. Still, it’s a bad gene at homozygosity, but a good one in areas with malaria for heterozygotes.

    Like schizophrenia and other mental disorders, homosexuality likely has both genetic and environmental components. However, it is so maladaptive from evolutionary viewpoint, so anti-natural and anti-biological that I can’t imagine it developing w/o a significant genetic component: you must break down something very basic in all mammals for it to develop. I know that it can be triggered by severe stress: if you keep mouse males in an overcrowded cage with limited food, some of them start making sexual advances to other males. Not all, though, again suggesting genetic factors.

  529. Okechukwu says:
    @ben sampson

    This is brilliant stuff. Truly exceptional writing. I am an admirer.

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  530. @Okechukwu

    tenks man! I appreciate the comment!

  531. annamaria says:
    @RadicalCenter

    “At a minimum, we could use a law like Russia’s that prohibits pro-homosexual material aimed at or viewable by minors.”
    — Agree.

  532. annamaria says:
    @ben sampson

    Yes, she and her song are amazing.

  533. eah says:
    @eah

    Europe Faces “Looming Syphilis Epidemic” As ‘Hookup’ Apps Go Viral

    According to the ECDC, homosexual sex – specifically “men having sex with men” – is responsible for two-thirds of the cases reported between 2007 and 2017. Heterosexual men constitute 23% of the cases, and women 15%.

  534. @annamaria

    And yet every gay person I know who’s lived in Saudi Arabia describes it as the gayest place on earth. Arabs cruise the streets to pick up young South Asian migrant men. Everyone knows this.

  535. “I know that it can be triggered by severe stress: if you keep mouse males in an overcrowded cage with limited food, some of them start making sexual advances to other males. Not all, though, again suggesting genetic factors.”

    I am going to hold you to the science here. There is not evidence that stress is to cause for a genetic breakdown to cause same sex behavior. And while could be, might be, if , suggests, implicates . . . are all fine and dandy. They are not science fact.
    ——————————————

    To the comment about how to or if one should deal with research in this area: if you don;t know what your opponents are are says, how or why, then you simply leave yourself a disadvantage in responding. And in the case of scientific conclusions, supporting evidence is mandatory. How one feels is just a window dressing to the larger issues. Given the impact of same agendas on the society at large —- being informed and prepared does not require a degree in biology or medicine at any level.

  536. @blank-misgivings

    And Indian men, like Arab men, hold each other’s hands but if they’re all gay I don’t know. It’s also cultural. Some cultures, including Arabs, think that only the passive homo who takes it is a homo, gay, fag, but the macho active giving it isn’t. Everyone thinks other nations are more faggoty and gay than their own. Rich Saudis go to Britain and screw white teenage rent boys and think all the English are queers, but there are rent boys with girlfriends who don’t think they’re queers as they’re just renting themselves to Arabs for the money to buy drugs but think all Arabs are queers. And rich western sex tourists go to Morocco and Tunisia to screw little Arab boys they can find much easier and younger than in their homelands and think all Arabs are queers, but those Arab rent boys grow up and get married to women.

    With the normalisation of homosexuality in the West there are now blokes who consider themselves as heterosexual working in gay porn as its just a job. Your job centre may send you to work in the sex industry if there is an opening even if you’re not a homo and if you refuse they’ll cut your welfare regardless of your gender or your gender or job preferences in countries where sex work is legal. After all it’s only a job so if you refuse it, the state will cut off your benefits. If not already being done soon it will be.

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  537. @ben sampson

    You lose credibility by asseverating that the quarterbacking skills of RGIII were unsurpassed. Yes, he won rookie of the year in 2012, but has not accomplished much of anything else in the NFL. He is now a back-up with the Ravens and is not guaranteed to make the squad this season.

    Like you, I was quite impressed with Patrick Mahomes’ performance last season. Still, whiter than white, paler than pale, blue-eyed Tom Brady, beat him twice, the second of which was for the AFC championship at Arrowhead.

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  538. Johan says:

    “If not, please stop reading and turn the TV back on.”

    Turn the idiot box back on, that’s witty, don’t forget the dumbphone.

  539. Johan says:

    “ad homineming”

    The ad hominem fallacy by the way used to point to a tactics of referring to mistakes in logic or a presentation of facts and accompanying course of reason made by an individual at some other point in time. The logic being, if once wrong, then always wrong… or perhaps more likely wrong again.

    There is (or was..) no official name for the debate tactic (logic) which is a downright attack on the person as we often see today. Which is because among our forefathers, those who were allowed to engage in debates where educated in rhetorics and logic, when using fallacies, they used proper fallacies.., they were at least skilled and a proper challenge at that, no culture has sunk so low as our democratic societies where downright attacks on the person have become ubiquitous.

    Thus, when in favour of democracy with universal suffrage, and the culmination of that, the terror of averageness, the free publishing system called the internet, don’t complain about the ridiculously low level of debate. And don’t be foolish trying to convince utter fools while actually only preaching for the congregation of those of reasonable intelligence, who afterwards know little more that they already knew. Unless it is for the reason of consolation, signalling that there is still intelligence out there.

  540. annamaria says:
    @blank-misgivings

    Your post has brought to memory Bush’ kisses:

    Cheney’s dirty doll Bush: https://www.metroweekly.com/2016/03/texas-county-republican-calls-president-george-h-w-bush-a-longtime-homosexual-pedophile/

    “You need to Google a picture of George W. Bush kissing the bald head of Jeff Gannon, who’s a bald-headed gay prostitute who was posing as a journalist in the White House press corps,” Morrow said. “It makes me wonder if Karl Rove got him that journalist’s pass.

    Washington Times, 6/29/1989: A homosexual prostitution ring is under investigation by federal and District authorities and includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides and the US and foreign businessmen with close social ties to Washington’s political elite. Reporters for this newspaper examined hundreds of credit-card vouchers, drawn on both corporate and personal cards and made payable to the escort service operated by the homosexual ring.”

  541. O rly says:
    @Anonymous

    60 70 year old are the ones who got us in to this mess and us younger generations must keep our meager employment at all costs because the same 60 70 YEAR olds ruined the economy let the country get flooded with cheep labor and will take every last penny of safety net that the feel is their birth right
    Why don’t I speak out against gays because I will never own a home so I better keep my job so I can keep giving most salary to my jew landlord for the privilege of a tiny delpapedated apartment that never gets any maintenence

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  542. @Liberty Mike

    I lose no such credibility. all RG had to was to demonstrate his supreme skills… and he did so many times. Griffin was incredible in his first year, unsurpassed previously, and stylistically incredible, beautiful..so much so he made grown men cry.

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    then Griffin got injured due to a porous offensive line that Mike Shanahan could not fix. I watched Shanahan and his son that year trying to understand what they were doing, how they actually felt about coaching Griffin. I never thought they could handle it. technically they were alright as coaches, good enough I imagine. did they want to be the best they could be in the circumstances, coaching Griffin?

    I am confident that Mike Shanahan did not want to be, that he did not care and if Griffin got killed he would be happy. he did little to protect Griffin by providing offensive protection and calling plays to max and protect. everyone saw that! no one denied it. the media were all over Shanahan for his ridiculous coaching..the media noted openly that the play calling did not help and protect Griffin and that Griffin was on his own out there

    then Shanahan was fired and replaced by Jay Gruden, another Griffin hater. incredible! because the Owner, Daniel Marc Snyder promised to do the opposite..to get a head coach who wanted to work with Griffin. Gruden completed the wrecking of Robert Griffin started by Mike Shanahan.

    as a QB Griffin was extraordinarily facile, could do everything to the best level I ever saw at the time..pass, run, think on his feet, elude DE’s and safeties, anticipate them better than anyone I saw. Robert Griffin was not a lucky football player a quantity of which players need in football, especially the great one,s in order to have careers. Griffin ram into racist Mike Shanahan and jay Gruden in a row, with an owner who was totally indifferent.

    I am still trying to figure out Dan Snyder every time Griffin flashes me. Snyder wanted the notoriety that Griffin walked with for his team. he got that is spades whether it was positive or negative. he did not seem to care as long as the spotlight shone on the Washington ‘Redstinks’

    and no one after that..in the NFL club wanted to touch Griffin..just as they wont touch Kaepernick currently. they all together, do not run each others faces into it for individual team benefit relative to any one player no matter how good that player is.

    by skill RG three is a better QB that Tom Brady. so is Patrick Mahomes. But Griffin had no head coach comparable to ‘Bellicheat’: neither is Andy Reid comparable to, or even equak to BB as head coach.

    Together ‘Bellicheat’ and Tom Brady form an unbeatable combination most times. Brady is a great QB in a situation that is for him what I call home. there is no other QB in the history of the NFL who has ever found a situation like that: coach with whom he has found spiritual and intellectual sync, a coach who is at the same time a true genius, not only excellent with X’s and O’s but knows people, understands the world he is a part of, and is smarter there even than on the field of play.

    Bill Belliechech provides the same best conditions for all his players who respond by trusting him, giving their all or enough to win, in return for their top class treatment, to create consistent winning teams.

    do not get me wrong. Tom Brady is by skill, talent and achievement a great QB, the leader of football teams that are always great. the head coach never fails to put a top class team on the field..and more often than not he puts a great team on the field of play. there is no other team in the history of he NFL that was ever this good..consistently so. the closest to all this I find was Roger Staubach, Tom Landry and the Dallas Cowboys back in the day. Roger too was at home in Dallas with Tom Landry.

    Much as I like and appreciate Andy Reid he is a notch below Belliechech. Reid is a notch or two below just about anyone he meets or will meet in a Super Bow. I bet horses too and handicapping Reid I will tell you he will always come in second or third..every time. why? he is simply a horse who will outrun most but wait for the leader of the group to catch up and pass him. Always!

    Reid will always slow up, slow down, and will wait. just watch! Mahomes and KC wont win with Reid. Brady and BB will beat Reid every time.

    all now were I the owner of the Chiefs I would be on the lookout for an Alpha coach to take advantage of Mahomes’ career. Mahomes is better than Brady by skills… but we are talking about 2 players..one already very great and the other young, on his way upwards, ethereal, other worldly of skills at the job, who needs a team that can go all the way..one that Reid has never put together and wont ever put together..which is why after all these years of winning up Reid never goes over. he cant that’s all. that is just the way he is

    for Reid to win a super bowl the alpha would have to break his leg and cant run no more. Reid can then waddle over the line and win. but that likely wont happen. Reid will have to win legit..and he is not the type.

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  543. Griffin was one of the greatest college players of all time. every knew, saw him as one to revolutionize the position.

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    but Griffin was a truly unlucky person…he was Washington’s pick and that is where the problem in his career manifested ..in Washington DC with 3 of the worst figures in NFL football..Dan Snyder the owne of the ‘Redstinks’, Mike Shanhan and his son the head coaches, followed by Jay Gruden another coach..a quadruple whammy!

    now Griffin is in Baltimore as backup: who cares. I do! I love the guy and wish him well. I hope he keeps his back up job but his time and opportunity to lead may have passed him by. chances are Griffin will never be a starting QB again.

    I am fine with that..so be it. that’s the way it happened.

    but that I guess is the price Griffin and others had to pay for the man ahead of him now in Baltimore- an other Black QBs…a young Black QB, set up to lead and win. Baltimore is making it straight up for that young Black QB to succeed… the opposite of what it was like back in the day…just 5-6 years ago.

    things changed for the better for Black QBs with stunning speed I say. I never expected that but it has. Griffin was the last sacrifice..and sacrifice he was indeed: a sublime talent, tremendous talent, amazing talent..although the poster above seems disinclined to admit it.

    the sacrifice of such an amazing young man must have brought everyone to their senses, to awareness of the true waste that was taking place in football, and that it could not be sustained.

    apart from being such a talented football player Robert Griffin is a fine young man, personable, responsible, a great citizen, married now with a family. it simply could not go on and on…

    Griffin has done his job: it ends well enough. Griffin is fit and physically fine, has a job and is supportive of the young man who leads now. if Griffin loses his back up job he can move on with his life, with his family, into the regular social life and live.

    I am happy about Robert Griffin anyway, period. he gave enough, we saw his brilliance enough to remember him in a glow of light. at least I do

  544. Malla says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Non Westernised Indians who hold hands do not always consider it gay. A few may be gays but most consider in normal holding hands with friends.

  545. Malla says:
    @ben sampson

    ethnic mixing predated any idea of class advantage that may be gained by promoting it by our elites.

    The elites do not want pure Whites and East Asians in the world before they unleash their Satanic one world government. There are spiritual underpinnings in this. Plus they consider these two races the most dangerous to their Satanic plans. Hence the promotion of interracial relationships in media. There are Jewish rabbis who have admitted this w.r.t Whites at least.
    They are not so scared of browns and blacks and consider us natural slave populations.

    and ethnic mixing is not up to you Malla. you have no say in the matter

    But you do.

    his name is Patrick Mahommes and his parents are Black and White. look around you and see. and that was happening from as long as there were different ethnic groups of the human species. Alexandre Dumas, Ludwig Van Beethoven, Alexander S Pushkin..look at what these people have done and do. like Mahommes these 3 for eg are basic, the root of things that they do. Pushkin created and set up an entire literature of what has evolved into a great country and people

    when these facts, when reality is considered..your poin

    Mixed raced people have on average lower IQs than Whites for starters. You think the elites are scared of quarterbacks. LOL

    the more I look at the situation the more your point of view makes little sense. and I have to review mine. all of Asia was Black..all of it. the current Asian population is beyond any doubt at all derived from mixing of Black and whit..even you a Hindu I presume

    You do not understand a lot of things.

    Not all of Asia. Maybe Middle East, South Asia and South East Asia. We South Asians are made by a mixture of many races. yes. Black, White and a little Yellow.

    I can see the white invasion from the north mixing the hell out of India, petering out about middle India, so northern Indians are lighter of complexion than the south.. which remains more African phenotype

    That is correct. But the blacks were Australoids not African Negroids. But I still believe some Negroid mixture did take place.

    you yourself are mixed already, ages and ages ago.

    That is correct.

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  546. pB says:

    so does mr saker notice how all the “rich white men” who are pushing this agenda happen to be members of the anglo-zionist empire?
    or maybe a slightly more precise name might be in order.

  547. Malla says:
    @Remington

    This is the English translation of the private conversion in between the Fuhrer of the Third Reich, Adolf Hitler and the Finnish military leader and statesman, Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim . This was secretly recorded.

    Adolf Hitler:…a very serious danger, perhaps the most serious one – its whole extent we can only now judge. We did not ourselves understand-just how strong this state [the USSR] was armed.

    Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim:No, we hadn’t thought of this.

    Adolf Hitler: No, I too, no.

    Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim: During the Winter War -during the Winter War we had not even thought of this. Of course….

    Adolf Hitler: (Interrupting) Yes.

    Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim: But so, how they – in reality – and now there is no doubt all they had – what they had in their stocks!

    Adolf Hitler: Absolutely. this is – they had the most immense armaments that, uh, people could imagine. Well – if someone had told me that a country – with…..
    If somebody had told me a nation could start with 35,000 tanks, then I’d have said:”You are crazy!”

    Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim: Thirty-five?

    Adolf Hitler: Thirty-five thousand tanks.

    Another voice in background: Thirty-five thousand tanks! Yes!

    Adolf Hitler: We have destroyed – right now – more than 34,000 tanks. If someone had told me this, I’d have said:”You!” If you are one of my generals had stated that any nation has 35,000 tanks I’d have said:”You, my good sir, you can see everything twice or ten times. You are crazy; you see ghosts.”
    This I would have deemed possible. I told you earlier we found factories, one of them in Kramatorskaja, for example. Two years ago there were just a couple a hundred [tanks]. We didn’t know anything.
    Today there is a tank plant, where-during the first shift a little more than 30,000 and ’round the clock a little more than 60,000, workers would have laboured – a single tank plant! A gigantic factory! masses of workers who certainly lived like animals and….
    [Hitler voice shows shock and compassion for the Soviet workers when talking about them living like animals].

    Another voice in background: (Interrupting) In the Donets area?

    Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim: Well, if you keep in mind they had almost 20 years, almost 25 years of – freedom to arm themselves….

    Adolf Hitler: (Interrupting quietly) it was unbelievable.

    Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim: And everything -everything spent on armament.

    Adolf Hitler: Only on armament.

    Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim: Only on armament!

    Adolf Hitler: (Sighs) Only – well, it is – as told your president [Ryte] before – I had no idea of it. If I had an idea – then I would have been even more difficult on me, I would have taken the decision [to invade] anyhow, because there was no other possibility. It was – certain, already in the winter of ’39/’40, that the war had to begin. I had only this nightmare – but there is even more! Because a war on two fronts – would have been impossible – that would have broken us.
    Today, we see more clearly – than we saw at that time – it would have broken us. And my whole – I originally wanted to – already in the fall of ’39 I wanted to conduct the campaign in the west – on the continuously bad weather we experienced hindered us.
    Our whole armament – you know, was – is a pure good weather armament. It is very capable, very good, but it is unfortunately just a good-weather armament. We have seen this in the war. Our weapons naturally were made for the West, and we all thought, and this was true’till that time, uh, it was the opinion from the earliest times; you cannot wage war in winter.
    And we too, have, the German tanks, they weren’t tested, for example, to prepare them for winter war. Instead we conducted trials to prove it was impossible to wage war in winter.
    That is a different starting point [than the Soviet’s]. In the fall of 1939 we always faced the question. I desperately wanted to attack, and I firmly believed we could have finished France in six weeks.
    However we faced the question of whether we could move at all – it was raining continuously. And I know the French area myself very well and I too could not ignore the opinions, of many of my generals that, we – probably – would not have had the, that our tank arm would not have been, effective, that our air force could not been effective from our airfields because of the rain.
    I know northern France myself. You know, I served in the Great War for four years. And – so the delay happened. If I had in ’39 eliminated France, then world history would have changed. But I had to wait ’till 1940 and unfortunately it wasn’t possible before May. Only on the 10th of May I immediately attacked. I gave the order to attack on the 10th on the 8th. And – then we had to, conduct this huge transfer of our divisions from the west to the east.
    First the occupation of – then we had the task in Norway – at the same time we faced – I can frankly say it today – a grave misfortune, namely the weakness of, Italy. Because of – first, the situation in North Africa, then second, because of the situation in Albania and Greece – a very big misfortune. We had to help. This meant for us, with one small stoke, first – the splitting of our air force, splitting of our tank force, while at the same time we were preparing, the, tank arm in the east.
    We had to hand over – with one stroke, two divisions, two whole divisions and a third was added – and we had to replace continuous, very severe, losses there. It was – bloody fighting in the desert.
    This all was inevitable, you see. I had a conversation with Motolov [Soviet Minister] at that time, and it was absolutely certain at that time, and it was absolutely certain that Motolov departed with the decision to begin a war, and I dismissed the decision to have a war, and I dismissed him with the decision to – impossible, to forestall him. There was – this was the only – because the demands that man brought up was clearly aimed to rule Europe in the end. (Practically whispering here.) Then I have him – not publicly… (fades out).
    Already in the fall of 1940 we continuously faced the question, uh: shall we, consider a break up [in relations with the USSR]? At that time, I advised the Finnish government, to negotiate and, to gain time and, to act dilatory in this matter – because I always feared – that Russia suddenly would attack Romania in the late fall – and occupy the petroleum wells, and we would have not been ready in the late fall of 1940. If Russia indeed had taken Romanian petroleum wells, then Germany would have been lost. It would have required – just 60 Russian divisions to handle that matter.
    In Romania we had of course- at that time – no major units. The Romanian government had turned to us only recently – and what we did there was laughable. They had only to occupy the petroleum wells. Of course, with our weapons I could not start a, war in September or October. That was out of the question. Naturally, the transfer to the east wasn’t that far advanced yet. Of course, the units first had to reconsolidate in the west.
    First the armaments had to be taken care of because we too had – yes, we also had losses in our campaign in the west. It would have been impossible to attack – before the spring of 1941. And if the Russians at that time – in the fall of 1940 – had occupied Romania – taken the petroleum wells, then we would have been, helpless in 1941.

    Another Voice in background: Without petroleum…

    Adolf Hitler: (Interrupting) We had huge German production: however, the demands of the air force, our Panzer divisions – that are really huge. It is level of consumption that surpasses the imagination. And without the addition of four to five million tons Romanian petroleum, we could not have fought the war – and would have had to let it be – and that was my big worry.
    Therefore I aspired to, bridge the period of negotiations’till we would be s