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Introduction by the Saker: I have always had a passion for theology in general and the studies of religions in general. Several years ago I discovered, quite by chance, a book written by Michael A. Hoffman II entitled Judaism’s Strange Gods which I found most interesting and thought provoking. Reading that book, I felt that I wanted to find out much more and I ended up ordering and reading Michael A. Hoffman II’s magnum opus Judaism Discovered: A Study of the Anti-Biblical Religion of Racism, Self-Worship, Superstition and Deceit which absolutely amazed me: over 1000 pages packed with information, sources and most interesting analyses. Needless to say, the book was also very controversial and elicited all sorts of negative reactions from various reviewers. Here I need to immediately begin by a disclaimer: while the topic of “Rabbinical Phariseism” (modern “Judaism” should be called something like “Rabbinical Phariseism” since all modern Judaic denomination are descendants of the sect of the Pharisees; furthermore, this religion is dramatically different from the religion of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob: it is the religion of Maimonides, Karo, Luria and others) has always fascinated me and while I do have a graduate degree in theology, I am absolutely not qualified to endorse or refute the views of Hoffman. What I can say is that his books are very well written, well researched, fully sourced and that I see no contradictions between what he wrote and the little I personally know about this topic. As for his critique of the religion of the Rabbinical Pharisees (from which all form of modern “Orthodox Judaism” stem from), it is not “racist” in any way: unlike ethnicity, a religion is a personal choice and thus a legitimate target for scrutiny and criticism and Hoffman’s condemnation of Rabbinical Phariseism is in no way harsher than the writings of Church Fathers like Saint Justin Martyr, Saint John Chrysostome, Saint Cyprian of Carthage or Saint Ephrem the Syrian.

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Hoffman recently published another amazing book, the 700 pages long “The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome” which I began reading (I am about 1/3rd through) with, again, rapt interest. Yet again, here was a very well researched and beautifully controversial book which gave me as strong desire to speak with the author and, luckily for me, Michael A. Hoffman II has kindly agree to replies to my questions to him on his life and research. The following is the full unedited Q&A with I had with him.

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The Saker: I am absolutely amazed at the width and depth of your research – could you please introduce yourself and then tell us how and where you acquired such a deep knowledge of topics which are almost never discussed nowadays and which the general public is almost totally unaware of? Do you have formal degrees in theology or history, or are you self-taught? What made you decide to spend so much time and effort deeply delving into topics which are often considered obscure, arcane if not completely irrelevant by most of our contemporaries?

Hoffman: My maternal grandfather Joseph Palace, with whom I had many discussions in my youth, was an amateur revisionist historian. He had been a successful businessman and seemed to have inside information about national events. He somehow knew in November 1960 that Joe Kennedy had bought the Chicago-area votes that helped swing the presidential election to his son Jack. He introduced me to other anomalies of history.

I attended college in my native New York in the early 1970s when the country was being torn apart by the Vietnam War and the change-of-era time. Because I majored in political science and history, I was often at odds with many of my liberal professors—not due to their Leftism, but their tunnel vision and abhorrence of dissenting ideas, in spite of posing as dissenters. I was fortunate to find a few professors who were honest academics, particularly Francis J.M. O’Laughlin at Hobart College, and my Palestinian professor at the State University of New York at Oswego, Faiz Abu-Jaber. The latter repeatedly urged me to research the history of Freemasonry in upstate New York, where America’s great anti-masonic revolt was ignited after Masons murdered William Morgan in 1826. The result was my 1978 pamphlet, Masonic Assassination.

I left the university and drifted around the country doing manual labor on farms and as a longshoreman. Further into the 1970s I was writing for obscure publications like Fortean Times, where I became a columnist, and working as a reporter at radio stations, including one station that was an ABC News affiliate. I also began writing for the wire service of the NY bureau of the Associated Press (AP). Eventually I was hired by Willis Carto to write a column for his paleo-conservative Spotlight newspaper, which in 1979 had nearly 400,000 readers. As a Spotlight reporter I covered the spectacular “Holocaust” show trial of German-Canadian activist Ernst Zündel in 1985 in Toronto, Canada and wrote a book about it, which was published by the Institute for Historical Review (IHR) in California, where I became assistant director. The trial took nine weeks and in the course of it I became acquainted with Zündel’s defense team and witnesses, among them revisionist historians like Robert Faurisson and David Irving, and German veterans of Word War II, from a grunt who drove a tank in Rommel’s Afrika Corps, to General Otto Ernst Remer, the commander of Berlin when the attempt was made on Hitler’s life.

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In the 1990s some of my books started to take off in term of sales, including They Were White and They Were Slaves: The Untold History of the Enslavement of Whites in Early America, and in 2001, Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare. I have been privileged ever since to lead the precarious life of an unaffiliated professional historian, while sometimes moonlighting as a copy editor for mainstream publications in the U.S.

The Saker: Clearly, when you began writing your books you must have been acutely aware that this would get you all sorts of ugly personal attacks and accusations – yet you went ahead and, far from being silenced, you continued to publish book after book and now, after having taken on Rabbinical Phariseeism, your latest book reveals an amazing level of depravity and heresy in the Latin Church (another misnomer since the “Roman Catholic” Church is neither “Roman” nor “Catholic” in the sense of “universal) since at least the Italian Quattrocento (15th century), many centuries before the First or Second Vatican Councils. In this latest book you are even committing a sort of “thoughtcrime of thoughtcrimes” and denouncing the very strong collusion between Judaic black magic (especially in the form of its kabbalistic teachings) and the top Latin theologians and clergymen. What is your motivation in unearthing all these most interesting, but also long-forgotten, events and what gives you the courage to take on such powerful institution as organized Jewry and the Vatican? What are you trying to achieve, whom are you writing for, what gives you such courage and energy?

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Hoffman: My family heritage is one of asking questions about everything. This for me is a normal state of mind — siding with the underdog, questioning authority. If you couple that with a burning curiosity, a desire to learn everything and to gain forbidden knowledge, then when one encounters a hint that white people in British America might have been chattel slaves on 17th century sugar and tobacco plantations, one experiences an insatiable hunger for knowledge in that realm, and if the information has been mostly suppressed, then the hunt becomes all the more compelling. Some Orthodox Judaic people have a derogatory phrase they employ concerning those who abandon Judaism. They say that those who leave are “chozrim b’she’ela” which denotes, “returning to questioning.” In my view this is a left-handed compliment since it is the mission of the independent, ennobled human mind to always return to questioning.

You mentioned “organized Jewry.” I don’t see myself as taking on “Jewry” per se. Orthodox Judaism, yes. Israeli Zionism, yes. But since both of those institutions are at their core fundamentally anti-Judaic, I view my work as an expression of love for Judaic people and as a conduit for their liberation.

A prime source of Jew hate is Talmudism itself, which oppressively tyrannizes and micromanages the lives of Judaics born through no fault of their own, into its psychic prison, while Israeli Zionism imprisons Judaics in a permanent war footing with the indigenous people of the Middle East. To free Judaic persons from these two prisons is an act of compassion and charity. We should never forget that our work is pro-Judaic. It is the Talmudic and Kabbalistic rabbis and Zionists who are putting Judaic people on the road to ruin.

The Saker: Now, turning to your books on Rabbinical Phariseism, could you please summarize the main theses of your books on this topic? What is, in your opinion, the true nature of Rabbinical Phariseism, what are its core tenets/beliefs? What would you say to an average person are the myths and realities about what is referred to as “Judaism” in our society?

Hoffman: Orthodox Judaism, which is the scion of the religion of the ancient Pharisees, is above all, self-worship, and pride is the paramount destroyer. In the occult scheme of things, the ideology closest to it was Hitler’s National Socialism, in that it shares this predominant characteristic of pathological narcissism. Christians and many other goyim (gentiles) have been deluded into imagining that Judaism, while being somewhat flawed due to rejecting Jesus, nonetheless manages to be an ethical religion reflective of the prophets of the Old Testament. Hillel, the first century A.D. Pharisee who is believed to have been a contemporary of Jesus, and Moses Maimonides (“Rambam”), the medieval philosopher and theologian, are most often held up as exemplars of this supposed ethical Judaism.

The myth of the benevolence of these two can only be sustained by ignorance. The problem is, that when a scholar begins to unearth facts that undermine pious media legends about men like Hillel and Maimonides, they enter “anti-Semitism” territory: if they dare to retail the truth, their ability to earn a living and keep their good name and reputation will be damaged, sometimes irreparably by the myth-makers who have the power to permanently stigmatize them as “haters and anti-Semites.”

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I’m beyond those fears, so I can venture to say that Hillel offered theological grounds for the molestation of children and invented a “prozbul” escape clause for evading the Biblical command that no loan shall be in force more than seven years. Maimonides detested Jesus Christ with a volcanic hatred that led him in his writings to urge the murder of Christians when it is possible to do so without being detected. These facts are documented in my books Judaism Discovered and Judaism’s Strange Gods.

Meanwhile, if you google “Hillel” or “Maimonides,” or you consult Wikipedia, you’ll find them described in terms of saccharine sainthood and humanitarian benevolence.

Orthodox Judaism, I regret to say, is a religion of lying and deceit. Duplicity and mendacity are formally inculcated. They are not incidental. There isn’t even a great deal of trust among Talmudists themselves. Witness what Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz, one time head of the reconstituted Sanhedrin in Tiberias, and premier translator of the Babylonian Talmud, has pronounced on this matter: “Rabbis are liable to alter their words, and the accuracy of their statements is not to be relied upon.” (The Talmud: The Steinsaltz Edition [Random House], Vol. II, pp. 48-49). In BT Yevamot 65b permission is given to lie “in the interests of peace,” a category so broad it is capable of serving as an alibi for countless situations in which scoundrels wish to conjure excuses for their falsehoods. There is also the general permission to lie to a gentile (BT Baba Kamma 113a).

These facts are not published in major media such as the New York Times. Yet the Times does not shy from insinuating that Shiite Islam is a religion of liars: “…there is a precedent for lying to protect the Shiite community…part of a Shiite historical concept called taqiyya, or religious dissembling.” (New York Times, April 14, 2012, p. A4).

Another defining theological aspect of Orthodox Judaism is its dogma that non-Jews are less than human. This is how the goyim are viewed in the Talmud and its sacred successor texts. In certain branches of Kabbalistic Judaism, such as the politically powerful and prominent Chabad-Lubavitch sect, their founder, Rabbi Shneur Zalman, formally promulgated the doctrine that goyim are not just less than human, they are non-human trash — “supernal refuse” — which is a reference to their Kabbalistic status as kelipot who possess “no redeeming qualities whatsoever.”

The Saker: My personal research has brought me to the conclusion ever since the recognition by Christ as the Messiah promised by the prophets of the Old Testament by one part of the first century Jews and the rejection of Him by the other part, the latter group began by developing an “anti-Christian scriptural toolkit” which included, of course, the forgery of the so-called Masoretic text, the development of the Talmud and the various commentaries, interpretations and codification of these texts. The goal was to develop a “polemical arsenal” so to speak. At the same time, the first kabbalistic concepts were developed for the internal use inside the anti-Christian communities. Would you agree with this (admittedly summarized) description and would you then agree with my personal conclusion that Rabbinical Phariseeism is at its core simply a religion of “anti-Christianity”?

Hoffman: I think you’re correct up to the Renaissance, which is the point at which members of the Roman Catholic hierarchy including many popes, were secretly initiated into Kabbalistic mysticism. The belt of that transmission is chronicled in detail in The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome. Rabbinic Phariseeism is more than a religion opposed to Jesus for this reason: in its beginnings in the time before Christ, it had existence as a creed founded upon esoteric oral teachings that nullify the Bible itself.

Orthodox Judaism is an anti-Biblical religion. Yes, it has a “Moses” and a “Noah” as its patrons and it names other patriarchs too, but these are not the Moses and Noah of the Bible. These are radically falsified figures who bear those names. Pharisac Judaism is contemptuous of the Biblical Noah about whom, in the Midrash, it makes scurrilous claims. There is even contempt for Moses. About Isaiah, who said that Israel has filthy lips, the Talmud teaches that Isaiah was justly killed by having his mouth sawed in half for “blaspheming Israel.”

In both Left-wing New Age and Right-wing neo-Nazi circles, the heresy of Marcion is alive and well and the Old Testament is execrated. It is equated with the Talmud (most famously on the Right by Douglas Reed in The Controversy of Zion). The problem with that tack is that the Old Testament is absolutely not a book of self-worship of the Jews. It is radically different from the Babylonian Talmud. The Bible is an antidote to self-worship. The Old Testament excoriates Israelites in the strongest possible terms.

One notable instance of the Bible’s ego-deflation pertains directly to Jews (Judeans) in the person of the eponymous patriarch Judah. In Genesis chapter 38, Judah’s daughter-in-law Tamar disguises herself as a temple prostitute. Not knowing it is her, and thinking she is a votary of the Canaanite fertility goddess Astarte, Judah has sexual relations with her. This was a horrendous transgression because in having sex with a cult prostitute one is having relations with a prostitute who seeks to channel the goddess by being possessed by her spirit. In this sexual act Judah would have been risking demonic possession himself.

Later in Genesis 38, when Judah seeks for the woman so as to pay her for her services, he asks the local people, “Where is the temple prostitute (the qedesha)?” Orthodox Judaism concocts fabrications to protect Judah’s reputation. Many Christian Bible translations influenced by rabbinic exegesis do something deceptively similar when they mistranslates Judah’s question as, “Where is the (common) prostitute (the zona)”? That’s not the word Judah used in the Hebrew text. He didn’t ask after a simple zona. He asked of the whereabouts of a qedeshah. The Word of God in this scripture is teaching Israel, and specifically the tribe of Judah, not to become conceited regarding their lineage and genealogy because none other than their illustrious forefather and namesake, Judah, committed a perverted transgression. Near the end of Genesis 38, Judah admits his hypocrisy and repents. Here the book of Genesis is imparting a very Christ-like Old Testament lesson about sinners, repentance and humility— which the Pharisaic rabbis in their arrogance, reject. In their Midrash on Genesis 38, they have the chutzpah to blame God for Judah having sex with a woman he believed to be a temple prostitute. They write, “Thus it is taught, ‘Judah would have never sinned with Tamar, but God sent the ‘angel of lust’ to tempt him to do so.” Nothing in the Bible supports this exculpatory allegation which blames God and renders Judah innocent of sin, since he was supposedly only doing God’s will.

Wherever there is the spirit of fanatical race pride, there is the spirit of the oral gnosis from which the Talmud, Midrash and similar authoritative rabbinic texts are derived.

To give another example, look at the language employed in Ezekiel 16:23-25. God says to Israel: “To crown your wickedness…declares the Lord Yahweh…At the entry of every alley…you opened your legs to all comers in countless acts of fornication. You have also fornicated with your big-membered neighbors, the Egyptians…you do not act like a proper prostitute because you disdain to take a fee…you bribe them to fornicate with you.”

A divine statement of such power, which mocks the Israelites for their immorality, is anathema to the Talmudic mentality, which is why the Talmud teaches that Yahweh is subservient to the rabbis, and they have the right to modify His divine law by means of situation ethics.

The Saker: I am often told that Zionism is secular and that its leaders were all secular, primarily, socialist, intellectuals and that there is no continuity between the small shtetls controlled by rabbis in eastern Europe and modern Israel because Zionism is essentially a Jewish version of 19th century European secular nationalism and, far from having its roots in Yiddish speaking religious communities, Zionism represents a secular emancipation from this self-enclosed and religion-centered world. What do you think, is there are continuity between modern “secular” Zionism (from Ahad Ha’am and Hertzl to modern Likudniks) and Pharisaic Judaism or not? And, if yes, could you please describe it?

Hoffman: The bridge between not only Talmudic Judaism and Zionism, but Bolshevism as well, is personified by Moses Hess, who Karl Marx termed, “My Communist rabbi.” Hess was not a rabbi in a formal sense, but he was enamored of the Talmud, as well as Communist and Zionist ideology. Hess recognized that what unites all three, their common bond, is Judaic self-worship. The controversies and rivalries arise in the debate over which vehicle is best for the supremacy of the Judaic people over humanity: Judaism, Bolshevism or Zionism? Hess argued that depending on the zeitgeist, any one of the three would prove suitable.

Yes indeed, the founders of the Israeli state were secularists and Socialists who had little regard for the Talmud as a way of ordering the life of a modern nation. They viewed its code of conduct as a relic from a superstitious past. They were modern and “progressive.” Moreover, the pioneering Zionists had violated a fundamental tenet of Orthodox Judaism, which held that only the Messiah himself could initiate the founding of a reborn Israeli nation. Until the appearance of the Messiah, the Jews could not engage in armed struggle to achieve that end. That was the view of the majority of Talmudic rabbis in 1948. Seventy years later it is the view of only a minority, mostly among certain Hasidic sects, such as the Satmar. Voila, in seven decades Orthodox Judaism has become a pillar of the Israeli state. The fanatical Israeli “settlers” are comprised of “religious Zionists.” The Talmud is their inspiration for using violence to steal what is left of Palestine in order to build “Eretz Israel.” How did this transformation occur?

Orthodox Judaism is a religion of situation ethics. There are few beliefs that are not negotiable. What is non-negotiable is the supremacy of the Judaic people and whatever aids that supremacy. Nothing else counts. Look at Gershom Scholem, the German-Israeli scholar who helped to bring the Kabbalah into respectability and prominence in the Israeli state. Scholem and Judaic-American intellectual Hannah Arendt, the one-time girlfriend of German philosopher Martin Heidegger, had been friends in Paris before World War II. Arendt published a fair-minded book, Eichmann in Jerusalem, which infuriated Scholem. But not because she erred in her facts. He was incensed at her allegedly “heartless, downright malicious tone” regarding the Nazis’ mass murders of Judaics, and he cast aspersions on her in the pages of Encounter magazine. Arendt had transgressed, according to Scholem, because she had failed to write in deference to the supreme criterion that must be the idol of every Judaic person: “ahavath Israel” (“love for the Jews”). The truths that Arendt had written were utterly beside the point.

If it turns out that Zionism is the best vehicle in our time for advancing Judaic supremacy, then most of the gedolei (rabbinic elite) of Orthodox Judaism will continue to cooperate with it. In his novel Oliver Twist, Charles Dickens portrayed the Judaic arch-criminal Fagin donning innumerable costumes and disguises. Talmudism, Bolshevism and Zionism are the garments that Judaic megalomania dons and discards as it marches through the corridors of time.

The Saker: In a recent article for the Unz Review entitled “A Crash Course on the True Causes of “Anti-Semitism” I posted a video of Bar-Hayim is an “Israeli Orthodox rabbi who heads the Shilo Institute (Machon Shilo), a Jerusalem-based rabbinical court and institute of Jewish education dedicated to the Torah of Israel”. Not a lightweight by any means who declared, among other things that: video time stamps indicated; see full video here:

  • (09:20) The Torah teaches that the life of a Jew is more precious than the life of a non-Jew.
  • (10:00) God (HaShem) prefers Jews to non-Jews and gives them a special status.
  • (11:00) The notion that Jews and non-Jews are equally precious to God contradicts the spirit of the Torah from beginning to end.
  • (16:40) According to Shimon bar Yochia (aka Rashbi) “the best of non-Jews should be killed in warfare” because just as Jews cannot know if a snake approaching you is venomous or not, Jews cannot know which non-Jew is a danger to then.
  • (25:16) Jews must assume that it is likely that any non-Jew they meet does not live by the Noahide Laws.
  • (25:33) Those who do not keep the Seven Noahide Laws (see below) are all therefore guilty of a capital offense
  • (25:49) “Avodah Zarah”, i.e. idolatry meaning Christianity was the most common offense.
  • (26:15) since you cannot bring a perishing non-Jew to court to establish his guilt, you take a neutral position by neither helping him nor killing him.
  • (1:22:00) if not saving a non-Jew makes Jews look bad, then the Jew ought to lie about his motives
  • (1:00:30) there is no requirement to return a lost object to a non-Jew
  • (1:17:40) Jews can brake the sabbath to save a Jew but not a non-Jew because Jews do not consider all lives to be equal

My first question regarding this gentleman is simple: who authoritative do you consider him and how widespread are his views amongst “Orthodox” Judaics? How close are his idea to the current mainstream of Orthodox/Hasidic “Judaism?

Hoffman: I wouldn’t know the status of this particular rabbi in the Israeli state. The situation is in turmoil at present in terms of halachic authorities because there are competing religious bodies. There is disarray even in the headquarters of the chief rabbinate. The last Ashkenazi “Chief Rabbi of Israel,” Yona Metzger, is currently serving a prison sentence for theft and bribery.

Another source of tumult is the heated controversy over the conversion to Judaism performed by Orthodox Rabbi Haskel Lookstein of the storied East Side synagogue in Manhattan, which was rejected by an Israeli rabbinic court, which invalidated the conversion of the (unnamed) woman and blocked her from marrying in an Orthodox ceremony in the Israeli state. This was a shock because it cast some doubt on another conversion performed by Lookstein— of Ivanka Trump.

Judaic unity is only possible due to an external threat like Jew hate. If there was virtually no hatred for Judaics, and Jesus’ injunction to love one’s enemies actually was practiced, there would be civil war inside the ranks of Talmudists and Zionists, which is one reason why Zionists have been caught covertly directing neo-Nazism, as for example in Canada in the 1960s and ‘70s as documented by Paul Fromm and Ron Gostick. The Stasi East German Communist secret police meanwhile, under the Judaic Markus Wolf, chief of the foreign intelligence branch, are known to have backed neo-Nazi groups in West Germany. Here in the U.S. it’s sometimes the case when Palestinians are gaining sympathy, or Israeli perfidy comes to the fore (as in the Jonathan Pollard espionage scandal), a dozen or so jerks with swastika armbands will assemble as if on cue, in some major American city, and virtually overnight the media are once again saturating America with the “Holocaust” narrative, and whatever Israeli scandal or Palestinian tribulation had managed to gain some notoriety, is lost in the agit-prop.

Returning to the candid statements attributed to this rabbi Bar Hayim — they are all accurate. Perhaps he’s been reading Judaism Discovered? He may be a renegade among rabbis, or on the other hand, he may be an astute Kabbalist engaged in a type of sophisticated psychological warfare known as the “Revelation of the Method.” It can be briefly explained as follows: at midnight on the clock of destiny in this eschaton, the goyim have been sufficiently processed and conditioned to such an extent that the criminals who have been oppressing them for centuries are now in a position to reveal to their victims what they have perpetrated against them, in the expectation that the victims are so depleted spiritually they will not respond proactively to the revelation. In the wake of the revelation if the passivity of the goyim continues, their psychological conditioning and enslavement increases exponentially.

Rabbi Bar Hayim could never divulge these truths to medieval Catholic peasants. There would be hell to pay. I suppose that if his revelations were to become better known in a country like Poland, which most closely approximates in our time a living Catholic faith among the masses at the parish level, there might yet be severe repercussions. But in Britain, Europe, Canada and the United States these truths are met with a collective shrug of apathy and paralysis, which serves to escalate the rate of our moral and psychological deterioration.

As far as how widespread are the teachings of Orthodox Judaism? I would say it depends on whether the Judaics are living in shetl-like conditions in Mea Shearim in Jerusalem, or more freely in a place like Los Angeles. To what extent has their education been at a yeshiva? The process of inculcating the Talmudic mentality is both cultural and pedagogic. I surmise that at the very least, the majority of adult males in Orthodox Judaism have a sense of their own superiority over the goyim, and will treat them unfairly when it is to their advantage and they can do so with impunity.

In the Israeli state, the one place on earth where Zionists have nearly complete power, how do the goyim fare? Would you like to be a Palestinian residing in Gaza, or even east Jerusalem for that matter? This is the fate of any subject population in any nation where Zionists or Orthodox rabbis possess something approximating total power.

The Saker: I would now like to touch upon the so-called “Noahide Laws” [listed by “Rambam” (Maimonides) as: prohibition of idolatry, blasphemy, homicide, of sexual immorality, of theft, on (eating) a limb of a living creature and the imperative of legal system] and I would focus on the first one: idolatry. Rabbi David Bar-Hayim explains that it refers to “Avodah Zarah” or “foreign worship”. Modern Judaics explain that Christianity is a “special type of avodah zarah is forbidden to Jews but permissible to gentiles, so that a non-Jew who engages in Christian worship commits no sin”.

Hoffman: Thank you for making me laugh. I’ve had a difficult day so the mirth is welcome. They want us to believe that Chazal (the supreme sages of the founding era of the Mishnah and Gemara), issued a decree stating that idolatry is forbidden to the Jews, but permissible to gentiles who worship the hated Jesus? Whoever believes that, I have a mountain here in Idaho that I will sell them at a discount.

You mentioned Moses Maimonides. He is the principal halachic authority in Ashkenazi Judaism. He wrote in his Avodat Kochavim (chapter 10): “Show no mercy to a non-Jew.” In this same volume, which comprises part of his magnum opus, the Mishneh Torah, Maimonides decreed: “It is a mitzvah (religious duty pleasing to God) to destroy Jewish traitors, minim and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway people away from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and Tzadok, Baithos and their students. May the name of the wicked rot.”

The words min and minim have been explained away as denoting “idolaters, akum,” wayward heretical Judaics, and other villains. The authoritative Shulchan Aruch however, pinpoints the source of the words min and minim to rabbinic wordplay on a description ascribed to Christians, “the faithful.” To mock the Christians, the rabbis of the Talmud took to calling them “sorts” as in “all sorts of malefactors.” Min and the plural form minim are therefore primarily references to Christians, while Tzadok and Baithos are examples of apikorsim, i.e. opponents of the Talmud. Min and minim are references to both Judaic and non-Judaic Christians. There is indeed, admittedly, a more intense detestation of Judaic people who convert to Christianity, in that they may be classed in other penal categories such as rodef (“pursuer”) and moser (“informant”).

The notion that gentile Christians are exempt from being treated as idolaters under the Noahide Laws, is shown to be demonstrably false in Hilchot Avodah Zara 9:4, where Maimonides states without qualification of any kind, that Christianity constitutes avodah zara, the worship of a false god. Let the apologists for Orthodox Judaism show us where in the Mishnah and Gemara, or in Rashi, the Mishneh Torah or the Shulchan Aruch, there is a dogma that the non-Judaic worshipers of Jesus Christ are not idolaters?

One whole volume of the Babylonian Talmud is devoted to the study of Avodah zara (idol worship). This tractate starts out discussing ways to cause non-Jews “distress.” For example, three days before the “idol-worshiping festivals” of Christmas and Easter, Rabbi Yehuda teaches that repayment of debts should be demanded from the goyim because it will cause them distress during their festive season (BT Avoda Zara 2a).

There’s a long section in tractate Avodah zara going over the details pertaining to goyim and the kashrut (kosher) status of wine. If goyim have unsupervised access to wine intended for Jews, then it can no longer be considered kashrut—the supposition being that the goyim poisoned or otherwise tainted the wine. There’s a hilarious passage where certain thieves come to the town of Pumbedita and open numerous barrels of wine. The sages of the Gemara consider whether the wine is contaminated by the thieves and therefore no longer kashrut. One sage relieves their anxiety. He tells them not to worry, “The wine is permitted. What is the reason? Most of the thieves in Pumbedita are Jews” (BT Avoda Zara 70a).

The Saker: Furthermore, can you explain why in the US these rabidly anti-Christian laws have been proclaimed as the “bedrock of society from the dawn of civilizationby both President Reagan and Congress? Jews are a small minority in the USA, and Orthodox/Hasidic Jews are a minority amongst US Jews – so who is behind such weird and yet very official proclamations?! Is this the result of lobbying by the so-called “Christian Zionists”?

Hoffman: I will answer from the New Testament. “The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion so that they may believe a lie, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness” (II Thessalonians 2:9).

Americans have an insufficient love for vital truths and it is God Himself who permits them to be seriously deluded as a result of their indifference. The stuff that the denizens of Churchianity such as Vice-President Mike Pence believe about “Israel” (more properly termed “counterfeit Israel”), is a curse on Pence and the nation in which he is a government leader.

Mr. Pence and his fellow “evangelicals” make themselves believe that the religion whose holiest book places Jesus in hell being eternally boiled in hot excrement (BT Gittin 57A; cf. https://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2018/03/farrakhans-defense-of-jesus-against.html ), is the apple of God’s eye. They take pleasure in being on the side of the powerful; the truth be damned. There’s a price to pay for that level of degeneracy and it is God who imposes it. The double-minded man is unstable in all his ways. The “patriotic” wars America has waged from Vietnam to Afghanistan and Iraq, have added to the grievous woes of this world. The Deep State inside the U.S. government, which we fund with our taxes and which has our nation sunk in a trillion dollars in debt, is our formidable enemy. These indicators of decline and others even worse, like the opioid and methamphetamine epidemic of addiction, are the price America pays for its indifference to truth—we prefer situation ethics—and by that yardstick, objectively we are already Talmudists.

The Saker: In your books you explain that the primary book studied by Judaics is not what Christians call the Old Testament, but the Talmud. Yet even in the Talmud there are numerous references to the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible). Do you think that most rabbis sincerely believe in the “official” characterization of Christ as a “magician” and “blasphemer” who was sentenced to death for his blasphemies, or have they rejected Christ because He, from their point of view, did not fulfill what they saw as God’s promise to the Jewish people, an earthly kingdom and, instead, gave to the “nations” (goyim) the world he has promised the Jews? Could it be that in their mysticism, the rabbis deliberately reject God’s Messiah and try put themselves into His place?

Hoffman: It’s difficult to say which path is taken among the majority, but both lead to the same destination: execration of the Gospel, which is often obstructed as much by internal subversion by Talmudic and Zionist agents within the churches, as from hostile forces external to it. The capture of the papacy in the 16th century was a watershed in this regard. This profound secret is contested by those who reply, “But the popes burned the Talmud!” Like the history of the enslavement of whites in early America, our rejoinder is, to which century are you referring? The experience of whites in bondage in the 17th century resembled in many cases chattel slavery. By the early 19th century that experience was almost entirely that of indentured servitude, although the whip smarted no less when it struck Andrew Johnson, future Vice-President of the United States, for whom a reward was offered and a wanted poster issued when he ran away to Tennessee to escape his bondage in North Carolina.

In the history of the Catholic Church, if the reference is to the incineration of Talmud manuscripts in the medieval era, for example in the wake of the Paris Disputation in the 13th century, in which Nicholas Donin, an eminent Judaic convert to Christianity, debated and defeated the rabbis in the presence of the monarchs of France, on the contested subject of the Babylonian Talmud’s malice toward Christ—then truly that burning was a sincere effort to eradicate it.

In the papal 16th century however, the token burning of the Talmud authorized by the popes was almost entirely for theatrical effect. In The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome we demonstrate that it was the papacy which supported the printing (and circulation) of the finest edition of the Talmud ever published in recorded history, the magnificent Bomberg edition (1519-1523), which it is fair to say permanently rescued the Talmud from the possibility of extinction. The only book more sacred to the pontiffs of the Renaissance was the Kabbalah, and we document an instance when, as part of a clever ruse worthy of the Mossad, agents of the papacy (led by Sixtus of Siena) burned the Talmud in order to distract from a rescue operation they mounted in Cremona to save copies of the Kabbalistic Zohar that had been printed by the Catholic publisher Vincenzo Conti. Sixtus of Siena’s patron and protector was Cardinal Michele Ghisleri, who as Pope Pius V would help inspire the the forces that defeated the Turks at the naval battle of Lepanto.

At this juncture we ask an inconvenient question: which is more damaging — the invasion of Europe by the Turks—or the invasion of the minds and souls of the Catholic intellectual elite by the Kabbalah? Renaissance (and post-Renaissance) Rome’s duplicity is of a depth that is more than most people can imagine, and having an insufficient love for the truth, they cling to the legends they have imbibed rather than the harsh reality that the documentary record imparts.

For the Messiah-rejecting Judaics, it’s an axiom among paleo-conservatives that the Leo Strauss school of Neoconservatism is its own messiah. You see this messianism in their secular sphere of action. Look at the headline on p. A12 of the New York Times of February 27, 2003, just days before George W. Bush invaded Iraq: “Israel Says War on Iraq Would Benefit the Region.” The Times wrote: “Israelis are now putting…hopes in an American war on Iraq…‘The shock waves emerging from post-Saddam Baghdad could have wide-ranging effects in Tehran, Damascus, and in Ramallah,’ Efraim Halevy, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s national security adviser, said in a speech in Munich this month….Until recently, Mr. Halevy was the chief of the Mossad, Israel’s spy agency. He said, ‘We have hopes of greater stability, greater enhanced confidence from the Persian Gulf to the Atlantic shores of Morocco.’

“Israelis have also suggested that that an Iraq war may salvage their economy…Mark Heller, a senior researcher at the Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies at Tel Aviv University, said the potential engine for change would be the example of a transformed Iraq. ‘It’s at least conceivable that Al Jazeera will end up showing pictures of Iraqis celebrating in the streets, in which case people in other places like Syria, Saudi Arabia and Egypt are going to start saying, ‘If Iraqis deserve decent government, so do we.”

This is the utopian stupidity the Israelis sold to the Americans. The Zionists and Talmudists are their own messiah and they will, at any cost in human life and material treasure, seek to “perfect” the world in pursuit of their messianic utopia. Megalomaniacs don’t learn from their mistakes, even when they are catastrophic blunders. Bill Kristol will maintain his trademark smirk no matter the consequences of his own derangement.

The only post-war “celebrating in the streets” the Iraqis did was in 2008 when the intrepid journalist Muntadhar al-Zaidi attended a Baghdad news conference where President Bush was speaking, touting the allegedly marvelous achievements of the U.S. invasion. Zaidi threw his shoes at Bush, shouting, “This is a goodbye kiss from the Iraqi people, dog. This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq.” Guards tackled Zaidi. He was beaten in jail and sentenced to three years in prison (he served nine months). Zaidi’s insult to Bush made him a celebrated hero in the Arab world.

But is there more to it? Is there an occult side? Here’s the data, draw your own conclusions: the Satanic character of traditional Judaism is not particularly difficult to discern if one adheres to the facts. The principal sacred text of the Kabbalah is the openly Satanic Zohar, which states the following: “Israel must make sacrifices to Satan so that he will leave Israel unmolested” (Zohar 2:33a). Also this: “The evil impulse is good, and without the evil impulse Israel cannot prevail in the world” (Zohar 1:61a).

These are appalling statements in a sacred book revered by the most politically influential rabbinic organization in America, Chabad-Lubavitch. I wish I could say they are anti-Semitic fabrications, but they are not. I can xerox them for you, with their context intact, from the edition of the Zohar published by Stanford University. Palestinians and goyim in general have the right and duty to assess the impact of this demonic Kabbalism in light of events in the Middle East and de facto Zionist control of the White House and Congress.

At first glance, it’s a seemingly lurid, even crackpot question to pose: was the Iraq War one of the Kabbalistic sacrifices which “Israel” must make to Satan, as the Zohar counsels? In the interests of justice and the advancement of knowledge, the question should be asked, and the Zohar should be studied (in the uncensored Pritzker edition from Stanford), in pursuit of an answer. The Zionist-instigated Iraq invasion took the lives of approximately a quarter-million Iraqis and 4,000 American youth. The fact that America fought the Iraq war for so-called “Israel” is slammed as a “virulent anti-Semitic fabrication.” But we have only to read the Times of February 27, 2003 to learn that the Israelis virtually lusted for the U.S. to invade, while pushing a boatload of nonsense with which to persuade the collective American golem of the prudence of their messianic Neocon mission.

To address the other part of your question, yes, the Old Testament is the prestigious prop that Orthodox Judaism wears emblazoned upon its public escutcheon. But as Jesus declared in Mark 7 and Matthew 15, the Pharisees nullify the Word of God while adhering to their own “traditions of men.” They call it “Torah” but it is really only their anthropomorphic oral law (Torah she’beal peh), later committed to writing after their rejection of the Messiah of Israel, beginning with the Mishnah.

The only authentic Torah of Yahweh is the written Torah (Torah she’bich tav)—the Pentateuch of Moses. It’s perverse that sola Scriptura “evangelical” Protestants delude themselves into imagining that the Pharisaic Judaism that concocted two diametrically opposed Torahs, is of God. They criticize Roman Catholic and Greek and Russian Orthodox Christians for giving authority to apostolic tradition, yet they claim that God is in love with the religion that is predicated on the authority of a bogus oral “Torah,” which Jesus repeatedly refuted and chastised in His confrontations with the Pharisees.

The Saker: I want to ask your opinion about two very different movements: first, the Karaites, who say that they reject the Talmud and “Rabbinical Judaism” and of Neturei Karta which are Haredi, but who vocally oppose the state of Israel and secular Zionism. In the Russian Empire the Karaites petitioned the Czar in order not to be considered as “Jews” and that their petition was accepted. I was also recently told by a friend that Nazi Germany also did not consider Karaites as Jews. And yet, as far as I know, and please correct me if I am wrong, the State of Israel considers them as “Jews”. But since they reject the Talmud, would that not make them apikorsim-traitors? How would you characterize the Karaites? What about the Neturei Karta? They reject the state of Israel, yet they live there, even in Jerusalem’s Meah Shearim quarter. But they travel to anti-Zionist conferences, even to Iran, and have met with the Iranian President. How do they escape being condemned as traitors or moser-informants? How different are they, in your opinion, from the other Haredi?

Hoffman: Karaites are the Judaics that Christians imagine Orthodox Judaism to be: an Old Testament-only religion. The Karaites were contemptuous of the rabbis of the Talmud for masquerading as the avatars of the Old Testament. They were cruelly persecuted by the rabbis in turn. Karaites have sometimes served to assist Christian scholars in discovering and parsing recondite rabbinic texts. Historically they have exhibited scant devotion to Judaic racial-nationalism. In the past 20 years or so however, some Karaite groups have accommodated themselves to Zionism and to a Judaic racial identity which would have been anathema to their forefathers.

No doubt the Tsars had the good sense to differentiate between Karaites and Talmudic Orthodox Judaism. I have heard the rumor about the Nazis and until I see the documentation, I don’t believe it. Adolf Hitler was driven by a Helena Blavatsky-type of occult Jew hate, which he acquired through Dietrich Eckart and others in Eckart’s milieu. Hence, Hitler viewed Judaic people the way Orthodox rabbis view goyim: as irredeemably evil, without regard to mitigating factors such as whether or not they were Karaites. Many illustrious and sincere Judaic converts to Catholicism for instance, were nonetheless rounded up by the Nazis and died in concentration camps, among them the theologian Edith Stein and the author Irène Némirovsky (whose novel David Golder is now considered anti-Semitic). The Nazis rather mysteriously liquidated stalwart activists and publishers like the Polish priest Maximilian Kolbe, whose educational work had resulted in massive public revulsion toward Judaism and Freemasonry. Kolbe headed a Catholic publishing empire dedicated to revealing the perfidy of Talmudic rabbis and Freemasons. What was he doing interned in Auschwitz? From the information we have seen, Karaites enjoyed no special immunity from Nazi persecution or extrusion, unless there were individual acts of mercy on the part of German personnel lower down in the chain of command.

The Israeli state is replete with apikorsim and in fact was founded by them, as we have said. In “Israel” in 2018 it remains largely a matter of indifference whether one is an atheist-Judaic, a Buddhist-Judaic or a Karaite-Judaic. If you were born of a Judaic mother you have the right to take up residence under the 1950 “Law of Return.”

As for the Neturei Karta, which is a very small group relative to other anti-Zionist “ultra-Orthodox” Hasidim such as the Satmar, they achieved fame (or infamy, depending on your perspective), when they participated in the “Holocaust” revisionist conference in Iran in December, 2006 and maintained friendly and supportive relations with the revisionists who were present.

Another anti-Zionist ultra-Orthodox group, the Eda Haredit community, are of interest, in part because they are offshoots of the more substantial Hasidic sects like Toldot Aharon and Satmar, and less prone to engage in publicity stunts, yet they cause headaches for the Israeli government. These groups are the heirs to the “old Yishuv” — the Talmudic community that resided relatively peacefully side by side with the Arabs in Palestine, before the conquest by Britain and the Zionists. They don’t accept Israeli government welfare payments or the National Insurance program. Most contentious of all, they despise the Israeli military and refuse to be conscripted. Eda Haredit members lynched an effigy of an Israeli soldier and hung it from a building in Jerusalem. They demonstrate in the streets against the draft and are beaten by Israeli police and soldiers. Dozens of them are in prison. They can’t obtain a passport until they reach 35-years-of-age — the age at which subjection to the draft ends. They are viciously attacked by the majority of the Hasidim who favor Zionism, such as in the pages of the influential Talmudic newspaper Yated Ne’eman.

In sum, yes, they are courageous dissidents vis a vis secular Israeli society and the mainstream of the modern Orthodox and Hasidic movements. However, if we revert back to the time before the founding of the Israeli entity, all of these groups — Neturei Karta, Satmar, Eda Haredit and their progenitors, detested Jesus, obstructed Christians, oppressed their adherents by micromanaging their lives, practiced the arts of deception and theft, and are suspected of widespread child molestation based on the halacha which permits sex with children under a certain age (for boys it is below the age of nine). The relevant Babylonian Talmud tractate shows that this permission to molest young boys is granted:

“The law is in accordance with the ruling of Rav….Rav says, ‘…the Torah does not deem the intercourse of one who is less than nine years old to be like the intercourse of one who is at least nine years old, as for a male’s act of intercourse to have the legal status of full-fledged intercourse the minimum age is nine years…if a child who is less than nine years old engages in homosexual intercourse passively, the one who engaged in intercourse with him is not liable” (BT Sanhedrin 54b).

This is plainly criminal and inhuman. Outside of Tantric Hinduism and the Church of Satan, we can think of no other religion which formally renders such abominable predation permissible. Consequently, in terms of the rehabilitation of their image, if they continue with their allegiance to Talmudic and post Talmudic halacha of the horrendously foul nature we find in Sanhedrin 54b, it matters not to a Christian whether a few Hasidic sects are implacably opposed to Zionism and the Israeli state. Their anti-Zionism does not absolve them of their other transgressions. They remain an offense to God and man.

The Saker: I have many secular Jewish friends, some who are somewhat aware of the kind of issues you have raised in your replies (those with at a least basic religious education), but most of them are totally oblivious to these facts. For example, they would dismiss the Hasidic rabbis and their followers as irrelevant nutcases and – correctly – point out that there are plenty of genocidal maniacs in other religions too!). In fact, many of them would very strongly suspect that those who, like you, raise these issues, of harboring strong anti-Jewish motives. There is, after all, a secular Jewish identity, at least since the 19th century, which is strongly based on the cultural aspects of “Rabbinical Judaism.”

Hoffman: On what basis can this writer be accused of “harboring strong anti-Jewish motives”? This monotonous jargon does not impress. Reckless accusations founded on nothing more than a morally superior interlocutor’s ignorant presumption that any rigorously critical study of Orthodox Judaism is hateful, does not call forth a response, other than pity. We would laugh out of consideration an Italian who came forward to announce that the articulation of harsh truths about the papacy was evidence of harboring strong anti-Italian motives. Here is the only standard that matters: res ipsa loquitur. The facts speak for themselves.

Who are these self-described “Jews” for whom the pidyon shevuyim (redemption of the captive) means nothing? What are their credentials for passing judgments on the accuracy of our research or the purity of our motives? Are they scholars? Clairvoyants?

If they “dismiss” the Hasidic rabbis as inconsequential “nutcases,” perhaps your secular Judaic friends may wish to look closer at the identity of the personnel holding many top ministerial posts in the cabinet of Binyamin Netanyahu, and influencing the United States government through the efforts of Chabad-Lubavitch and Agudath Israel of America. Maybe they will condescend to take a peek at demographic statistics showing that the strictly Orthodox are the fastest-growing Judaic population in the Israeli state and the United States.

Furthermore, throughout our conversation I have made reference to Orthodox Judaism without limiting myself to Hasidim. The “modern Orthodox” as they are known, to distinguish them from Hasidim, are heirs to the zealous Talmudism that pre-existed Hasidism (which arose in the 18th century). They number in their ranks Jared Kushner, Steven Spielberg, former Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT), and tens of thousands of other movers-and-shakers in government, business and media. The modern Orthodox operate Yeshiva University in New York, which includes the prestigious Cardozo School of Law, whose graduates often become elite government and corporate attorneys and staff powerful non-governmental agencies such as the ADL. “Irrelevant nutcases”?

The Saker: I always try to explain that, unlike ethnicity, religion in a choice and thus a legitimate target for scrutiny and criticism and my secular Jewish friends accept that on a logical level, but on an emotional level they still feel like something dear to them is being attacked. How do you deal with that? How do we, by even raising these topics, avoid pushing our non-Haredi or, at least, non-Orthodox, Jewish friends or readers to “circle the wagons” with the hardcore Haredi? What do you think is the best strategy to completely separate issues of ethnicity/culture with specific issues of faith/religion?

Hoffman: If accurate scholarship pushes these supposedly confirmed secularists into the ranks of the religious-fanatic Hasidim (“Haredi”), then they must take the consequences of the choices they make. If our study of early modern papalism in The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome were to cause a defensive over-reaction on the part of nominal Catholics, who then swore fealty to the ultramontane extremes of popery, how would anyone overcome folly like that, made by one’s own free will? There is a Yiddish proverb: “A shpigl ken oykh zayn der grester farfirer.” (“A mirror can also be the biggest deceiver”).

The Saker: thank you very much for taking the time to reply to my questions!

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Historian Michael Hoffman is a former reporter for the New York Bureau of the Associated Press and the author of nine books of history and literature. These include Judaism Discovered, as well as Judaism’s Strange Gods; Usury in Christendom: The Mortal Sin that Was and Now is Not; The Great Holocaust Trial; Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare, and his latest, The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome. These volumes are available from Hoffman’s online store. Hoffman is the editor of Revisionist History® newsletter (https://truthfulhistory), published six times a year. Website: www.RevisionistHistory.org

 
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  1. Hoffman: “I attended college in … the early 1970s … I was often at odds with many of my liberal professors — not due to their Leftism, but their tunnel vision and abhorrence of dissenting ideas, in spite of posing as dissenters.”

    Sound familiar? These Stalinists replicate themselves in the hallowed halls of learning.

    Hoffman: “… which is more damaging — the invasion of Europe by the Turks, or the invasion of the minds and souls of the Catholic intellectual elite by the Kabbalah?”

    What was true in medieval Christendom is true today: a powerful supremacist sect, occult in nature and with roots stretching back to Babylon 300 BC, corrupting our religious and political systems.

    This article has inspired me to dig out my copy of Hoffman’s puzzling and fascinating Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare for a re-read. Hoffman is a marginalized but valuable scholar.

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  2. Sir Q says:

    Great interview!

    I’ve owned Hoffman’s “Judaism Discovered” for years, and its well-worn, food- and coffee-stained pages will testify to my reading it and re-reading it in detail. Its objectivity and meticulousness should disarm any skeptic who spends a half hour or so looking it over.

    I appreciated and concurred with Hoffman’s answer that this work (of exposing the evil of these Talmudic doctrines) is a work ON BEHALF OF JUDAIC PEOPLES — not one of hatred towards them. You could almost say, ‘It’s the religion, stupid!’ about this subject — and of course this is true for my deluded Christian brethren, almost to a man or woman completely warped to the Zionist/dispensationalist hybrid, which “passes” for mainstream Christianity today.

    Saker was the right guy to interview Hoffman, and even the stuff covered here in the interview is a great starting point for those who aren’t so familiar or comfortable with this topic.

    I think I’ll have to finally fork over the dough to acquire Hoffman’s “Occult Renaissance Church of Rome” — these works are dissecting the guts of the ideology that’s messing with everybody and everything in our world today.

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  3. Molecule says:

    I would love to see Hoffman do a real history of the United States. 1826 was pivotal, in the masonic takeover. He’s so right about the culture of pride, proped up by mendacity, deception, treason, on a mass scale. My short take, for what it’s worth — 1810-20′s, Indian states, Balukistan Pashtoonistan mainly, begin to cut back on opium production. India realizes that British-Zionist-Cabalistic globalism is destroyig their local or ecological or land-based economies and cultures. Globalism has always had the viborish of trafficking and exploiting herion and slaves as its core stimulant.

    So, India regulates opium, and production drops 80% while local economies recover. Meanwhile, 1830s, the world’s most powerful opium is discovered growing in Sierra Madre. At this time, Jackson administration, the US has no enemies. So, the “US” decides (who?) that it needs to raise an army. Chasing Indians off their lands was used as an excuse. Operation Manifest Destiny was not a go west operation. It was a “Let’s invade Mexico operation.” But Mexico didn’t exist just yet. It was emerging, yet, but not an enemy.

    So what ever-so cricital resource was “down there,” that the cabalists who took over the US and created a US Army, specifically for the task, just had to go and attack Mexico. The answer, my friend, is heroin. Operation Manifest Destiny was a heroin trafficking operation. Soon, we are told, the US was sending its navy, ships with 16″ guns, across the Pacific, in the Great American effort to export “democracy” at the barrels of US Navy gunships. Or, might it be that they were trafficking in herion, exactly has they have been ever since, until this very day.

    So the US military forces, now organized as an undefined entity calling itself the Pentagon. It’s not a building. It’s a delphic oracle, where walls make policy. The throats of the deep state behind the walls remain ever so silent. And, the “pentagon” speaks only when a trillion or so is dropped into one of its many sacred burn pits. High on mendacity, hubris, treason and deception, and on the disappearance of trillions in the pentagon’s talmudic burn pits, the priests toss in freshly carved fats taken off the tops of the kidneys of sacrificed children to add the high stench of their religious incense, radiating the pheromones of primal fear, from burning the adrenals of a child on the hot coals. Obedience will surely follow.

    Lincoln was an opium addict. He became addicted when he put himself under the care of a dentist, when he pulled his back out, trying to setup a farm, that would have enough income, that he might entice the girl of his dreams to respect him, or at least believe he could support her family.

    This 1850s precursor to the pentagon, then just masquerading as the US Army was trafficking in herion, mainly coming from Sierra Madre. US Army supplied the opium for two opium wars against the Chinese people. The opium didn’t come from India. 1800s-10s it might have. But 1820′s to 30′s India had cut back, turned away from globalism and heroin. After supplying opium for two opium wars against China, 1840, 1850, suddenly by 1860s the US Army had all this opium and no population to dump it on to.

    The Lincoln Administration was a regime change operation. It starts with opium trafficking. The stench or corruption by a taluudic priesthood is used to destroy the popular credibility in the local police forces. The opium flow begins. Chaos and civil war is instigated by military operations, casually orchestrated as escalating psychological terrorism, along spiritual fault lines in the society. The spiritual fault lines for future wars are easily manufactured, once the population is separated from its agricultureal roots.

    The US Army supplied the heroin used by both sides of the so-called Civil War. It’s very unpopular to admit this. We can’t call it a war, when both sides are instigated, agitated, organized, finaced, armed and supplied, by the same entity, which is the United States government, which is a classic case of talmudic smokescreen, providing operational cover for the ancient and venerable heroin and slave trafficking mafia that hides behind it.

    The characteristics of the deep state … mendacity, hubris, deceipt and treason, on scales too large for most people to even imagine. Sessions protects Rosenstein, who protects Meuller, who protects Comey, who protects … on an on it goes deeper and deeper.

    One might ask Mr. Hoffman, If the pentagon has a deep state, then what does a Bolshevik fifth column look like. If Wall St. Bolshevism is nothing other than satanism masquerading as Judaism, then again, What would a Bolshevik fifth column look like?

    Every nation that has tried to hold and weild a nuclear bomb, as an essential element of its arsenal, has collapsed from within. The collapse is both moral and financial. First, any military that “has the bomb” is a military or liars and fraudsters. Their illusion of the big bad bomb, the big red button, the big scary hairy monkey whose paw, painted with rose toenail polish, hovers over the big red button, etc. The military that relies on this scare tactic, is a military of impotent cowards. After the first bomb goes off, they are exposed as cowards and no one will respect them. This is the moral collapse. The military-talmudic belief that the bomb will surely terrorize the world into obedience is the essence of talmudic cowardice and mendacity of the deep state.

    The bomb requires formation of a deep state, that of necessity operates in secrecy, using national security and continuity of government as its excuse. But, the talmudic priests know that formation of a culture of bureaucratic secrecy, is an essential precursor to a global discontinuity of government. Ultimately, the secret state, required to “own” the big hairy monkey whose paw hovers over the big red button, erodes public trust and confidence. The attempt to possess and maintain an arsenal of nuclear bombs in a deep state of fear and secrets is the essence of the upcoming discontinuity of public faith in local government. To the talmudic priests who own the arsenals, this is as easy as one, two three.

    Lastly, every nation that has decided to rely on nuclear arsenal, has gone financially bankrupt. Compared to the googlewatts of energy required to isolate weapons grade uranium, the bombs are tremendously inefficient. The Russians are smart. They have developed technology for their bombs, that costs 1% of the equivalent in nuclear bombs. Their focus is defensive. The US is going bankrupt trying to maintain its grossly inefficient wildly expensive and wasteful nuclear arsenals. The US deep state will never tell how inefficient their nuclear arsenal is. Their pensions are way too fat, and they will never give them up.

    In short the Pentagon arsenal of nuclear bombs is a talmudic wet dream. Belief in the big hairy money fosters a culture of political impotence and military cowardice in the US military. The culture of secrecy fosters discontinuity of public trust. Rah rah rah goes along just fine, until the military and financial bankruptcy hits.

    If this undefined talmudic entity known as the Pentagon, is not a Bolshevik fifth column, then, pray tell, what would one look like?

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  4. Mulegino1 says:

    According to this article in Haaretz, hundreds of Karaites actually served in the Waffen SS:

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-this-day-nazis-karaites-aren-t-racially-jewish-1.5356296

    The nastiness of Talmudism and Rabbinism are the bane of those who call themselves “Jews.” Jewry is at its core a criminal enterprise with a racial and ethnocentric core, but membership in this organization requires a conscious adherence. Those who sincerely renounce membership in this mafia are likely to make good citizens and neighbors, and those whose identity remains Jewish above all other considerations will likely not, since such a renunciation more often than not requires courage and moral fortitude.

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  5. The question of the malice of some Jewish elites against the Goyim has been raised for centuries.
    Michael Hoffmann is – I think – generally right when he shows that the Jewish hatred of the Goy is theorized, justified, in short, exposed as a divine commandment in the Talmud.

    But the real question around which millions of people, newspaper articles and books are turnin is this: is this hatred a decisive motive for the behavior of certain Jewish communities (and if so, which ones) toward the Goyim? Science (I think of psychology and sociology) has never frankly raised the question and therefore never resolved it.

    I have read many articles speculating on the influence of the Talmud on the Jewish mindset. It is exciting. But at a certain point, we do not want to have credible answers, but sure answers: researchers, psychometricians, sociologists, map the Jewish mentality (or mentalities), so that we can answer the Jewish question on a solid basis !

    On the other hand, Michael Hoffmann’s idea that the Talmud would be the evil betrayal of a “good” Old Testament seems false to me. Certainly, the Old Testament reprimands the Hebrews, the Israelites or the Jews unfaithful to Yahveh, but many texts also show that the Goyim deserve extermination, especially in order for the chosen people to take possession of the Land promised by God. Evil, immorality, are already in the Torah.

    As for the New Testament, and especially the Gospel of John, one must honestly admit that it is hostile, at least in part, to the Jews. This new testament is itself the doctrinal text of the Christian faction that prevailed over all rival Christian or Judeo-Christian factions at the beginning of the 4th century. Hate comes a priori from all sides: between Jews and Christians, between Jews, between Christians.

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  6. Daruma says: • Website

    Saker,

    A great interview and article; I learned a lot from it, and I thank you for that.

    Toward the end you said

    “I always try to explain that, unlike ethnicity, religion in a choice and thus a legitimate target for scrutiny and criticism”

    With the increasing evidence that much of human behavior, even some anecdotal evidence of relatively ‘fine grained’ features analogous to nest building among bird species is inborn, I wonder how much of a choice there really is. Religiosity seems to be genetically influenced, and it might be possible that peoplle are ‘born in’ to at least a mindset for a particular relirious viewpoint.

    Since socities and the individuals within them co-evolve, perhaps conflating religion and ‘race’ is not so far off in closely consanguinous groups.

    Daruma

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  7. anastasia says:

    Edith Stein? Is he kidding. Her conversion is very questionable. There is no evidence how she died, or even if she died. The Nazi’s did not buy her conversion, and frankly, neither do I.

    Catholic Church taken over by Judaism in the early 1500′s!!! I would put that at the late 16th Century. I notice he says NOTHING about the Jesuits, who entered the Church in 1534, as a papal order of priests. Catholics threw rocks at when they saw them walking around with the talmud under their arms in Spain. They were aligned with the false mystics in Spain – the alumbrados. It was alumbrados money that built their Jesuit schools in Spain. They were the ones who brought a false mysticism into the Church.

    In one book about Hitler, they say evidence of his occultism is his propagation of the visions of Anne Catherine Emmerick. He was foolhardy to embrace them, I will admit, but evidence of his occultism? If it is, it is only because the Jesuits brought into the Church a false mysticism, leading to all these phony apparitions and things like the visions of Anne Catherine Emmerick, that were embraced by many Catholics, and which Hitler embraced, like alot of Jesuit-educated or inspired Germans.

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  8. Anonymous[777] • Disclaimer says:

    Very interesting (seriously) and I would like to know more (once I have spare time, but I have my own directions of research) but, excuse me for being frank, this is like people discussing the finer point of String/Multiverse Theory. Discussing an imaginary map stands in for discussing the territory. Yes, one gets excellent math out of it, but still.

    There is the underlying idea that these religious feuds are based on something concrete, some really real knowledge that was revealed at the the beginning of time (though much later than the moment of Low Entropy & Energy Everywhere about 14*10⁹ years ago) and has become corrupted, lost, burned, ungained, regained or built upon, but still fits into some kind of book and can be interpreted by the brain of some self-selected dude barely different from ape ancestors holding forth in a stone temple. Yes, it’s necessary to hold that belief in a section of the compartimentalized mind ,otherwise the discussion couldn’t be had in the first place and everyone would go for a beer at the Talmud Grill & Bar but…

    Let’s get back to Grounding In Reality. Never let Mysticism overwhelm you. What is important is who has influence now, how, what does he intend to do, what are his deep motivations and what can we do about it (morally, something to the left of Holocaust Redux please) before someone presses the button and it’s all fucked.

    Bizarre beliefs in the utility of Satan for the Tribe’s Goals and the Primacy of Oneself may be repelling, even downright Lovecraftian, but as long as they are held by crazies burning their cycles in the temple backrooms, that’s ok.

    Also, have some Eva:

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  9. ValmMond says:

    Some semantic disambiguation might be badly needed.
    ‘Jews’ and ‘Israelites’ are not synonyms. Zionists claiming the very name “Israel” is a forgery and imposture of the highest order. According to their own historiography “Jews” are descendants from the tribe of Judah – presumably only one among the 12 Israelite tribes (10 of whom disappeared without a trace 2,700 ago).

    But even Judah’s connection to Israel is in itself a spurious claim. Here is what the Jewish Encyclopedia has to say on the question : “For example, Joseph and Judah typify two distinct lines of descent, Judah in all likelihood being a non-Israelitish mixed tribe.”

    http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/14507-tribes-the-twelve

    Nice. The fraud has been going on for thousands of years. No wonder, Judahites were quickly rejected by the rest of the Israelites, who appear to be history’s first “antisemites”.

    The original Israelites by the way, had no exceptionalism pretense. Their mission was to spread one way or another, monotheism and the knowledge of G_d to the rest of mankind. Prophet Amos, who was himself an Israelite from the Northern Kingdom, makes this quite clear in 9:7
    “Are not you Israelites the same to me as the Cushites?” declares the LORD. “Did I not bring Israel up from Egypt, the Philistines from Caphtor and the Arameans from Kir?”

    In a way, Israelites fulfilled their purpose by 721 BC, when they were absorbed into the rest of the humanity, merging with or becoming the future Romans, Greeks, Slavs, Indians etc. of the world.

    It’s already clear that today Jews have little or nothing in common with ancient Judahites. The genetic evidence is abundant. But even assuming generously that they are who they claim they are, that we can all reopen 3,000 year old territorial disputes, the most modern-day Jews could pretend to is the territory of the ancient Kingdom of Judah.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kingdoms_of_Israel_and_Judah_map_830.svg

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  10. gsjackson says:

    Absolutely fascinating. I’ve finally arrived at the point where there is no alternative to understanding just who are these people who control our politics, public policy, media and most of our institutions. Hoffman apparently is essential reading toward that end.

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  11. Douglas Reed’s “The Controversy of Zion,” is essential reading for understanding where our world has been and is today. Perhaps not entirely accurate, it should be read by any truthseeker, nonetheless.

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  12. What has this to do with Putin-Nazism? Saker is straying off the beaten track.

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  13. ohmy says:
    @Molecule

    For a history of the USA just read the recent Alexander Hamilton bio. It is clear to me AH was sponsored by his Scottish (Mason) relatives and, through their connections to London banking and the Rothschilds, was sent here to form the first bank in America using the Bank of London’s template, laws etc. Sorry my friend, we did not win the revolutionary war, as there wasn’t a real revolution. Yes many died, but wars a racket and anyway, who cares about the dead. Deception is a means to their ends. The goal was to establish fractionalized banking in the colonies under London control and, they did it. I’m sure the Rothschild in Paris wagered friendly with his brother Rothchild in London over who the Colonists would side with; the British or French. We all know the answer and, we’re still paying the price.

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  14. Wally says:

    Hoffman said:
    “Many illustrious and sincere Judaic converts to Catholicism for instance, were nonetheless rounded up by the Nazis and died in concentration camps, among them the theologian Edith Stein and the author Irène Némirovsky (whose novel David Golder is now considered anti-Semitic). The Nazis rather mysteriously liquidated stalwart activists and publishers like the Polish priest Maximilian Kolbe”

    There is no proof that Edith Stein, Irene Nemirovsky, and Maximilian Kolbe were gassed / murdered. None. Hoffman gives his game away when he says “rather mysteriously”.
    Indeed, claims of murder with no proof whatsoever are “rather mysterious”.
    see:
    Edith Stein Gassing Claims debunked: https://codoh.com/library/document/3760/?lang=en
    and:
    Edith Stein’s ‘demise’: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11112

    http://www.codoh.com

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  15. Romans 11

    25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

    26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

    27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

    28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father’s sakes.

    29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

    30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

    31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

    32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

    33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

    34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

    35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?

    36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

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  16. Google ‘gentiles in Halacha’, to find an article by three rabbis confirming that judaism is racist.
    And read
    Israel Shahak, ‘Jewish History, Jewish Religion, The Weight of Three Thousand Years’, 1994, 2002, London
    How a present day well educated intelligent woman still is jewish, that is, connected to the old stories, read
    Francine Kaufmann, ‘Pour Relire “Le Dernier des Justes”‘, 1987 Paris
    No idea if there is a translation

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  17. @gsjackson

    Do you understand them ?
    Despite many books on the subject, my understanding still is no more than dim.

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  18. Hoffman: “The bridge between not only Talmudic Judaism and Zionism, but Bolshevism as well, is personified by Moses Hess, who Karl Marx termed, “My Communist rabbi.” Hess was not a rabbi in a formal sense, but he was enamored of the Talmud, as well as Communist and Zionist ideology. Hess recognized that what unites all three, their common bond, is Judaic self-worship. The controversies and rivalries arise in the debate over which vehicle is best for the supremacy of the Judaic people over humanity: Judaism, Bolshevism or Zionism? Hess argued that depending on the zeitgeist, any one of the three would prove suitable.”

    I notice Hoffman’s quote by Marx “My Communist rabbi” is not referenced, which raises the question whether or not Marx actually said it and if he did say it whether Hoffman is taking Marx out of context here.

    Consider the following quotes by Marx, which contradict Hoffman’s “bridge”.

    “The first prerequisite for the peoples’ happiness is the abolition of religion”. – Introduction, Critique of Hegelian Philosophy of the Right, Karl Marx, 1844
    “The emancipation of the Jews in its last significance is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism.” – On the Jewish Question, Karl Marx, 1844

    Notwithstanding, Bolshevism was founded by V Lenin decades after Marx and Hess died.

    There is no “bridge” between Talmudic Judaism, Zionism, Bolshevism or Communism, at least not the kind Hoffman is trying to conjure.

    Marx may have had Jewish ancestry, but that’s about the extent of his Judaism considering quote number 2 above.

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  19. Tyrion 2 says: • Website

    I think you’re correct up to the Renaissance, which is the point at which members of the Roman Catholic hierarchy including many popes, were secretly initiated into Kabbalistic mysticism.

    So Jews were responsible for all European development since the dark ages? I didn’t do any of it, but I’ll accept a “thank you” on their behalf.

    It seems that trying to make events fit a crazy thesis leads one to inevitably fabricate a bunch of crazy events.

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  20. Heros says:

    “The Saker: I have many secular Jewish friends”

    The article shows how Saker is suffering from the same weaknesses as John Derbyshire whose cuckery is described in the previous Unz article.

    In Saker’s case, like most Russophiles, he wants to have the Bolshevik JQ both ways. Saker is willing to recognize the long, pernicious history Jews have with Christians, as is recognized in the interview. Saker is even willing to point out many of the Jewish Bolschevic atrocities against Russians.

    But when it comes to WWII, suddenly he is a Russian Patriot willing to cover for Jews because “Russia Won the Great Patriotic War”. Patriotic? Stalin was ((Georgian)), and Russia was merely another slave state in the ZOG USSR empire. A particularly hated one by the owners of the empire, if one is to judge by the number of Russians murdered.

    Yet Russophiles like Saker love to brag about how “Russia” won WWII and yet they simultaneously ignore how their beloved ZOG USSR had siezed every Slavic country in eastern Europe, planned genocide on the Slavs living there, sent many to concentration camps, and handed over tyrannical power to communist jews.

    [MORE]

    For the Slavs and Jews of eastern Europe there was one choice: German National Socialism or Jewish Communism. That all across eastern Europe the National Socialists were greeted as liberators by the Slavs, while what these same Slavs faced under the Soviet troops was rape, murder, and slavery in the gulag, really is telling.

    Then we have the way Stalin refused to sign the Geneva Convention on Prisoners of War (the same one the USA ignored when they starved millions of Germans POW’s in death camps after the war). Stalin declared that there were no Soviet prisoners of war, only traitors to communism. Since Stalin was treating German POW’s as poorly as he was treating ethnic Russians slaves, the Germans rightly said that they would not honor the Geneva Convention for Soviet POW’s. Saker and his ilk will then brag about the “3 million Soviet POW’s” that “died” in German “captivity”, with out ever providing real proof (besides Judeo-bolschevik forgeries).

    The truth here that these Russophiles ignore is that all Soviet POW’s returned to the USSR were murdered or sent straight to the concentration camp where they likely died later, just like the German POW’s that were sent there in violation of these Geneva Conventions.

    There are reports that up to 1 million Russians and Slavs participated in Barbarossa. Many more joined the SS and other branches of German army later. So when the Soviet ZOG Army captured these former USSR soldiers and citizens and murdered them, were they likely admit to their heinous crimes, or did they claim that the Germans had killed them and frame the Germans the same way they did with Katyn?

    Saker and his ilk also like to ignore truths that have leaked out over time especially now that we have the internet as a tool. Katyn forest and its usage to frame Germans at Nuremburg is one prime example, but also we have the debunking of the majority of the entire holocaust narrative. The assassinations of Sikorsky and Patton, the treasonous spying by jews like the Rosenbergs and Hiss reveal the depth of the conspiracy behind the scenes between the ZOG allies to utterly destroy Germany in their war for their Jewish masters.

    Further, we have a never ending string of old ladies (Haverbeck, Schaefer) being locked up for the thought crime of “holocaust denial”. Jews can eliminate freedom of speech and Saker won’t mind as long as the jews kvetch loud enough about “Nazis”. It works both ways for him.

    Just like Derbyshire, Saker knows he is lying, so both of them take solace in bashing “Nazis”. For them WWII is a cul-de-sac that always leads to Zyklon-b gas chambers. Just the way their “Jewish Friends” like it.

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  21. @Wally

    “The Nazis rather mysteriously liquidated stalwart activists and publishers like the Polish priest Maximilian Kolbe”

    Maybe what Hoffman wants to say is that Nazis were doing what their masters (The Zionists) told them to do. One needs only to know where Hitler and his bunch of criminals got the money that put them in power to know that maybe the Nazis were being used by superior forces.

    “There is no proof that Edith Stein, Irene Nemirovsky, and Maximilian Kolbe were gassed / murdered. None”…

    Well, you can also say that there is no proof that someone using pseudo “wally” exists…no proof whatsoever.

    Are you a robot ?

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  22. @Heros

    Unless you live on mars you would have to interact with Jews to some degree unless you are a toilet cleaner or street sweeper. If you have any kind of job, you’ll have to work with them to some degree to earn a living.

    Not the rubes and hicks in Podunk towns who are the biggest critics of Jews, though they know none in their rundown exurb cul-de-sac.

    But the average Northern Yankee has no choice but to work with them. I’ve had Jewish co-workers and a female sex partner or two (I forget).

    How could someone NOT interact with Jews and make a living in the United States?

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  23. Peri says:
    @Kairos Kagathos

    So you like to spread the blame for the hate evenly, hmmm. Who started the hate? Who persecuted the early Christians? Did the early Christians persecute the Pharisees? Who was responsible for the killing of Jesus? Who were the aggressors? Do you think the early Christians had some justification to hate the Pharisees? What was the justification of the Pharisees to hate the Christians?
    Why would you like to evenly spread the blame?

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  24. Orthodox Jews inside Israel try to destroy archaeological sites. Archaeologists have uncovered numerous synagogues from the 1st/2nd century AD in Galilea and what did they discover & see an the mosaic floor: the Hellenistic Sun god Helios riding in his chariot. Already the depiction itself means trespassing the Ten Commandments & the Talmud. So the question arises: these early Pharisee synagogues, close to Tiberias, did they add water to the wine in order to please the Roman rulers or did they in practice take their own teachings with quite a lot of grains of salt? Hellenistic syncretistic mixing of religion & divine beings, the Pharisees were not immune to adapt themselves to this habit of the goyim, according to archaeological ‘proof’. Anyhow, thanks for this thought provoking interview!

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  25. @Tyrion 2

    Ah, the irony.

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  26. It is still superstition, no matter what you call it. Feuding who is right in their “belief” is like blind people having a fistfight. Pointless! That some people adhere to this religion others to that religion is more like what your preference is I suppose.
    Discussing which unverifiable miracle is more right than another is also pointless. Its mass delusion.
    And there sure is a lot of deluded people in the world. Now people will tell me I will go to hell for my non – beliefs, that is OK, because I do not believe in hell. Hell is here on earth, its full of deluded people.

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  27. Israel was a Greek colony at one point. Around the time they settled Cyprus.

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  28. skrik says:
    @Anonymous

    at the beginning of time (though much later than the moment of Low Entropy & Energy Everywhere about 14*10⁹ years ago) …

    Me: No. One of the ‘strongest’ natural laws is ‘conservation;’ matter/energy can neither be created nor destroyed. I claim ‘strongest’ on the basis that try as some might, *no* exception has ever been found, likewise none is ever expected. Since we exist within a 4D universe [x,y,z+t], I suggest that there was *no* ‘beginning of time;’ the big-bang was ‘merely’ a phase change [much like super-heated water flashing over into steam]. ‘Before’ was matter [everywhere] in some form, but incredibly dense. The ‘big bang’ may be regarded as ‘the lid coming off hell’ = starting incredibly dense and hot then analogously to super-heated water, ‘after’ the universe began to expand. But not matter itself, inter-atomic dimensions do not change; the ‘empty space’ before the transition point remains the same after, only the matter is expanding outwards due to the initial, high-pressure/temperature impetus, thus our observed universe is becoming both less dense and cooler.

    There is the underlying idea that these religious feuds are based on something concrete, …

    Me: No. In contrast to the permanence of matter/energy, each and every wo/man has a definite ‘use-by date’ = will eventually die. Not a comfortable thought, and that’s why we have religion = a postulated ‘life after death’ which people ‘grab onto’ in a futile attempt to save their own miserable necks. It’s purely wishful thinking, but the headline article illustrates how far and complicated the delusions have become.

    Lemma: Exactly because of the ‘laws of conservation,’ no information may enter our universe from any putative ‘supernatural’ agency; religious belief is based on zero information = *totally unfounded*.

    [a]

    What is important is who has influence now, how, what does he intend to do, …

    [b]

    and what can we do about it

    Me: Agreed to [a]; nothing to [b] – since [c] most sheople are totally unaware of the danger and – saddest – [d] there is no ‘effective countervailing force,’ due to the silence [= acquiescence] of any possible ‘decent faction.’ rgds

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  29. HBM says:

    There was no “Religion of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob”. Those figures did not exist; they are fictions produced by Hellenized Jews under the shadow of Herodotous and Thucydides and the authors of Greek romances. Tanakh was not written by Moses; or in the Court of King Solomon; or discovered by Josiah. They were authored after the Greeks.

    Judaism came to be when Levantine pagans were prescribed Zoroastrianism by their Persian occupiers. The Patriarchal Tales and Histories were composed only a few centuries later after the collapse of the Persians and the arrival of the Greeks. They are effectively Jewish ethnopropaganda and are products of Alexandria.

    The Pharisees– dissidents from what they considered a corrupted Temple– were willing to play fast and loose with these texts because they were effectively Greek in origin. And this despite the fact that they had learned eveything about bookworming from the Greeks themselves.

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  30. Hair room says:

    The problem with this philological approach is that textual analysis doesn’t prove anything about contemporary culture. You risk falling into the orientalism trap (c.f. Said.)

    The missing link is Israeli state adoption of cherry-picked cultural notions to incite genocide. The proof is not some dead baby-blowing rabbi who hates goys. The proof is here, Israeli culture,

    https://cufpa.wordpress.com/2018/01/05/israelis-sniping-palestinian-children/

    the sneak holocaust of seven million brainwashed Israeli fanatics.

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  31. Wally says:
    @James Brown

    So that’s your answer? That’s your best shot? LOL

    So where’s your proof that Edith Stein, Irene Nemirovsky, and Maximilian Kolbe were gassed / murdered?

    In fact, the laughably alleged ‘gas chambers’ were scientifically impossible.

    But then you’re a True Believer in a religion called ‘the holocau$t’.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  32. Hoffman has revealed truths which every America should be aware of, one of which is that the wars that America has been forced to fight by the Zionists have been a blood sacrifice to the Zionist god satan and this is an ongoing disgrace to every American.

    911 was another of the zionists sacrifices to Satan as they destroyed over 3000 American lives and millions of Iraqi and Afghanistani and Libyan and Syrian and American military lives in their statanic sacrifices.

    America is under the control of Zionist Satanists and Americans need to wake up and smell the coffee while we still have a chance to rescue the country.

    THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION should be read by every America.

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  33. Alden [AKA "Vera Figner"] says:

    Think I’ll pass on this thread It’s interesting but it’s not my field of knowledge and I know little about what was going on in the Middle East 3,000 years ago.

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  34. gsjackson says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Same here — dim at best. I’m only starting to grasp the extent of their control.

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  35. Can someone post/reply here with an executive summary so I don’t have to read the 9,000+ words?

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  36. joe webb says:

    It is of interest, that the Saker confesses his lifelong fascination with religion.

    He is a person of the Book, or , many Books of religion.

    He also totally rejects Evolution, and thereby biological determinism, or genetics and evolutionary psychology.

    That is why he hates racialists and loves MLK. He is a fundamentalist Christian, Russian Orthodox variety

    The Saker is the Predator in the vineyard, swooping down on anyone who denies racial equality.

    What a dope and what a magical thinker. No magic please . What century are we in anyway?
    Joe Webb

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  37. @gsjackson

    My problem is ‘why do they, in any case some, want control ?’.
    The extent is quite clear to me.

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  38. @skrik

    ” basis that try as some might, *no* exception has ever been found, likewise none is ever expected ”
    As far as I understand it, in quantum mechanics anything goes, also temporary exceptions, Alice in Wonderland

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  39. @All we like sheep

    Archeology in Israel, very dangerous occupation:
    Amy Dockser Marcus, ‘The view from Nebo, How archeology is rewriting the bible and reshaping the Middle East’, Boston, 2000

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  40. AaronB says:

    This is the problem when European style logical analysis – where the unit of analysis is the “simple fact” rather than the total phenomen – is applied to religious pre-modern texts.

    There are many passages in Buddhist scripture which say you must be beyond good and evil and Zen even says you should kill the Buddha.

    European style analysis where the unit of meaning is the simple phrase or simple fact would yield a picture of Buddhism where you must literally kill the Buddha and literally not concern yourself with morality.

    European epistemology and metaphysics has taken a wrong turn around the beginning of the modern era, and Europeans will continue to be the dupes of the world until they correct their error.

    This is why all these European analysts struggle to understand Judaism and find it amorphous – and why some commenters here say they’ve read much about it but still can’t understand.

    The simplistic epistemology of modernity is not adequate to the multi level complexity of pre modern thought – and increasingly it is no longer even yielding tangible results in the physical realm and not adequate to understanding more complex aspects of the physical world, as witness the discussion around genes and IQ, which is the quintessence of epistemological simplicity.

    Of course there is much evil in Jewish behavior and Jewish religion, and the one dimensional modern European will take me as “defending” Judaism. So be it.

    Until the great dumbing down of Europe that began in the modern era and culminated today is overcome, Europeans are not a significant factor.

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  41. Alden [AKA "Vera Figner"] says:
    @Molecule

    Opium’s a painkiller like aspirin or Tylenol. It made modern surgery possible. It allows people to survive cholera by slowing down the diarrhea that causes dehydration.

    Both armies in the civil war treated hundreds of thousands of wounded soldiers and opium was the painkiller used.

    Heroin was invented after the civil war by German Drs and pharmacists. Intention was to create a non addicting pain killer as a substitute for addictive heroin.

    Aspirin, also invented by Germans ended a lot of opium addiction. It’s a good pain killer for mild pain which meant people weren’t taking addictive opium for headaches.

    Wounded soldiers need pain killers. Some need it for the rest of their lives.

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  42. Alden [AKA "Vera Figner"] says:
    @Shawn Returns

    I’ll do it for $1,000. I’ll give you a thousand word 2 page summary. I couldn’t plow through it for less. I don’t think anyone could.

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  43. @HBM

    If your thesis ‘authored after the Greeks’ would be true, why does the heroic story of Hercules feature no women at all (apart from his wife that he murdered brutally), while the Biblical story of Samson is overflowing with women? His mother who has an affair with an angel, Samson’s first wife who is wailing so much that his soul is about to leave him and of course the whore Delilah, with her feminine cunning. Both Hercules and Samson appear as brainless Rambo’s in the narrative, but there exists an enormous difference between them: Samson is a straight man, a real womanizer, while Hercules is … gay. Hercules is a typical hero who belongs to Greek & Hellenistic culture, his male muscles were adored by the Greek men. Samson on the other hand is a weirdo. After losing his long hair he is as weak as the small boy that guides him. You want to adore a man without eyes? Go ahead. But both the prominence of women and the surprising anti-heroism of Samson is not Greek, but typical Jewish.

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  44. annamaria says:
    @joe webb

    What is your problem with the main theme of the interview, “prime source of Jew hate is Talmudism itself?” And why the sudden deviation towards several auxiliary themes?
    The interview provides a wealth of sourced information targeting (along with the zionists and ziocons) the fanatical American Churchians that been instrumental in zionizing and destroying the US. The interview presents a practical approach to the problem — via education — unlike your ad hominem attack on Saker and his interests.
    You are free to reveal your scholarship — whether on evolution or genetics and evolutionary psychology or various denominations — which could contribute to the wellbeing of human society at large.

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  45. gsjackson says:
    @jilles dykstra

    I suppose the doctrines discussed in this interview, in the Talmud and elsewhere, require it by implication. If the goy are sub-humans created only to serve Jews, then control must be exercised over the goy to bring about that end.

    There’s also a phenomenon called “duper’s delight, ‘ referring to the satisfaction derived by those who are able to persuade large numbers of people to believe a big lie. Using the mass media to tell big lies is the principal means of Jewish control, along with purchasing politicians.

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  46. @ohmy

    You had better check the dates of Hamilton’s death and Nsthan Mayer Rothschild’s establishing of his bank in London before you repeat such rubbish. (1804 and 1811 respectively as you csn easily check). And what do you mean by the Bank of London? You are just babbling witlessly.

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  47. What is lacking is any idea of just how many Jews have any interest in or knowledge of the Talmud, let alone the Kabbalah, how influential they are and how they use their influence.

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  48. renfro says:
    @jilles dykstra

    My problem is ‘why do they, in any case some, want control ?’.
    The extent is quite clear to me

    To understand their desire for control you have to go a bit further than Hoffman’s religious explanations and into what kind of collective psychopathy that religion (and all its parts) induces in the Jews.

    Jewishness and Zionism are a ‘Cult’…….and attract people who are predisposed to mysticism and their self validation/specialness by group approval and acceptance. The need to see oneself as special appeals to not all , but large numbers of Jews due to Judaism’s teachings and the other propaganda Jews are raised with.
    Thus the Cult keeps itself going and keeps its adherents thru the memes of anti Semitism and the ‘uniqueness” of Jews and Judaism.

    The Cult core is a form of ”malignant narcissism”……as in ‘specialness, anti Semitism/paranoia, mythical grandiosity,……which leads to idealizing aggression toward and destruction of ‘ The Others”….the outsiders. ….the Cult’s ‘goal.’…..hence the need to ”control’.

    A malignant narcissist will harm others and enjoy doing so, showing little empathy or regret for the damage they have caused. We see this every day in the actions of Israel, the statements of US Zionist and in the comments of most Jews for Israel right here on unz who express delight in Israel’s killing of Palestines.

    The social psychologist Erich Fromm who first coined the term “malignant narcissism” described it as a “severe mental sickness” representing “the quintessence of evil”. He characterized the condition as “the most severe pathology and the root of the most vicious destructiveness and inhumanity”. …..
    Pollock, G. H. (1978), “Process and affect”, International Journal of Psycho-Analysis

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  49. Parbes says:

    “The Zionist-instigated Iraq invasion took the lives of approximately a quarter-million Iraqis and 4,000 American youth.”

    A quarter-million is the LOWEST OF THE LOW-END ESTIMATES for the number of Iraqis who died as a result of the Zio-neocon instigated Iraq invasion and its aftermath. More realistic calculations done by honest fact-seekers put that number between one and one-half million.

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  50. I don’t know about Tantric theology, but the assertion that the Church of Satan approves of pedophilia is categorically incorrect. Credibility lost.

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  51. Anon[449] • Disclaimer says:
    @Parbes

    Nigerian occupation of Biafra 2 million killed
    Sudanese occupation of South Sudan 1 million + killed
    Sudanese occupation of Darfur 700,000 killed
    Indonesian occupation of Papua 500,000 + killed
    Alawite occupation of Syria 500,000 + killed
    Russian occupation of Chechnya 150,000 killed
    Turkish occupation of Cyprus and Kurdistan 70,000 + killed

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  52. nickels says:
    @AaronB

    Hoffman addresses this aspect of the Jew’s Talmudic writings. The book was written in the time of concern for gentile power, and, so, it has a multilayered structure. One passage will be goy friendly, but, then, later a passage will reference this and reverse the logic to something perfidious. In this way, there is always a path for the jew to make the book look harmless by wuoting one aspect but not the other.
    The example of the staff of raj in Raiders of the lost ark is insightful. The Nazi gets only one side of the amulet burned into his hand and so he thinks the staff should be a certain height. But, Dr Jones, in possession of the other half, is informed by his jew sage, in true Talmudic form, to “take back one kadam for the hebrew God whose honor this ark is for”.
    The true guard of the religion is that these tricks of interpretation must be passed down in person by the Rabbi.
    Hoffman had inside help in writing his books.

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  53. Heros says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    My best friend throughout my childhood was jewish and I knew his family well. I long had the hots for his sister. One of my best friends in college was jewish.

    I have had a long career centered around Oracle databases. I recently discovered that Larry Ellison, the owner and founder of Oracle, is an avid zionist jew of the most disgusting kind. Suddenly I understood many things, like Ellison’s behavior and how Oracle always bought up other companies so recklessly. The banks and insurance companies I worked for are also owned and controlled by Jews. The Federal Government is completely ZOG, so if you are in the civil service or the military you are supporting ZOG.

    We also see what happens to people who resist ZOG and run afoul of JP. The 2 old ladies in Germany are a current blaring example, but we must never forget that assassination by the Zionists has been approved and acknowledged for over 70 years.

    What you are asking me is basically: “How can someone resist ZOG, especially on the east coast of the US where jews own and run everything?”

    I am really just an anonymous coward in all this so I am not the one to ask. I am just seeking the truth, but I certainly avoid jews as much as possible. Michael Hoffmann would be a good place to start. I’ll bet he would recommend Jesus in one form or another.

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  54. RobinG says:
    @James Brown

    “…there is no proof that someone using pseudo “wally” exists…no proof whatsoever.” :) :)

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  55. Realist says:
    @Daruma

    Religiosity seems to be genetically influenced, and it might be possible that peoplle are ‘born in’ to at least a mindset for a particular relirious viewpoint.

    …particular delirious viewpoint…

    FIFY

    Now we agree.

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  56. bj says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    “The cultivation of the powers of discrimination and discernment are seldom the focus of the information-mongers. Yet if we acknowledge a war against the mind’s capacity for independent thinking, then the acquisition of wisdom and not data is what we ought to recognize as paramount.”

    https://www.amazon.com/Societies-Psychological-Warfare-Michael-Hoffman-ebook/dp/B07D624MMF/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

    Are you an “information-monger”, devoid of wisdom, mocking, and casting sand in the eyes of humanity?

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  57. AaronB says:
    @nickels

    I have read Hoffman and actually have a certain amount of respect for him and he plainly does a better job of grappling with pre-modern thought than many.

    He at least somewhat understands the idea of multiple levels of meaning and the need to analyze a culture as an organic evolving phenomena, rather than a set of clearly defined ideas frozen in time that are then consistently applied – like a scientific formula.

    But he is still limited by his epistemology – which is still too much that of a modern European.

    Hoffman applies his insights about multiple levels of meaning solely to the material realm – they are devices meant to trick outsiders in order to achieve power, with the true message reserved for insiders, who have the key to interpret it. His schema is quite clear and distinct – as you’d expect from a modern European.

    Judaism is very much a universalizing religion – Jews have a unique and privileged place in the scheme of world salvation, and are certainly more important than others, but only insofar as they play a key role in the salvation of the entire world.

    The dichotomy between particularism and universalism is collapsed – it is only the European mind that demands they must be distinct categories, and therefore, thinks the universalizing message must be a fake front used to deceive outsiders. Only one category can be “real” – but in fact the universal and particular are seen as manifestations of an uunderlying unity.

    In the same way, Zen says you must kill the Buddha when you meet him, and also says we are all Buddha’s. Paradoxically, striving to be a Buddha hampers you from realizing you are already a Buddha, but unless you make some effort to realize your Buddha nature it will never happen.

    European epistemology cannot make sense of this – it must be some kind of deception or just plain nonsense.

    Jewish particularism derives its meaning from universalism – so Jewish survival is more important than others, but only because it is the key to saving others. Particularism becomes universalism. Jews as bearers of a higher morality are allowed to sometimes bend the rules in order to survive and spread this higher morality. It is recursive vision.

    Hoffman decries this as situational ethics and as mere ethnic chauvinism because he has the metaphysics of a materialist – for him it cannot be anything else.

    The “rigid” adherence to an unvarying standard of conduct that does not take into account ultimate goals or particular situations is the rigidity of death – Taoism says in death we are rigid, but all life is flexible like water. The tree that does not bend snaps.

    Is it situational ethics? Or is it loyalty to an ethical ideal that cannot be allowed to die out because of any particular situation, that is larger than any situation?

    This may be a flawed vision and a dangerous one, and one that easily lends itself to abuse, narcissism, and racism, but it needs to be understood on its own terms for what it is.

    The “double mindedness” Hoffman so decries is actually an essential part of dealing with reality successfully, and Europeans dumbed themselves down when they decided to become one-dimensional. Of course, Hoffman sees double-mindedness in purely materialistic terms, and as deception.

    This stuff is too subtle to explain to someone steeped in modern European epistemology and metaphysics, which is dumbed down thinking meant for engineering and not ultimate questions – it was only after I purged myself of European assumptions and “dwelt” with pre-modern texts for some time – initially finding them incomprehensible – and living in Asia for many years that I even began to acquire the mental flexibility to approach these questions.

    So I know how hard it is for someone used to the “rigid” European thinking to understand the “water like” thinking of other cultures.

    But until this mental revolution happens, Europeans will continue to decline into insignificance.

    Europe and now are living off inherited intellectual capital.

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  58. Art says:

    Orthodox Judaism, I regret to say, is a religion of lying and deceit. Duplicity and mendacity are formally inculcated.

    All the different divisions of Jews, past and present, is mind boggling. It can be said that 85% of all Jews are tribal – that they have Jew traits – that they primarily live through the prism of Jew thought and culture.

    Young Jew children are abused and terrorized with fears of all of humanity by their elders – they are taught mental mendacity as a defense against humanity (leaving them forever defectively dishonest). They overcome these fears by shaping the Gentile world with lies. As a result of their indoctrination, they have manic penchant to disregard the truth. They think that they can spin an endless series of lies.

    Sooner rather than later, this gets the whole tribe in big trouble. This has happened over and over. The JQ is before humanity again.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

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  59. Johnny says: • Website

    A fantastic interview on a most timely subject matter affecting Christianity. Great points in a sea of dull distractions from the Cryptocracy Michael Hoffman subdues eloquently and with brilliance.

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  60. Wally says:
    @RobinG

    That’s the best response you have?

    Still no proof that Edith Stein was gassed / murdered.

    If Jews are really so smart they would have conjured up a better, more believable story than their impossibly fake & stupid ’6,000,000 & gas chambers’.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  61. Skeptikal says:
    @AaronB

    ” so Jewish survival is more important than others, but only because it is the key to saving others.”

    Saving others is a very common pretext for controlling/invading/regime-changing/etc. etc.
    It dervies from the conviction of being right.
    A priori.
    those who know themselves to be right don’t ask questions of themselves and certainly aren’t interested in what others think or want.
    This is one of the infuriating aspects of modern Judaism and Jews.
    Despite the image of Jews as guilt-ridden neurotics, which also does have some basis in reality, mainly it is a pretext for whining and kvetching about oneself. Totally self-centered and -oriented. Part of the kvetching is, I am sure, associated with the many wrongs that are indeed visited upon individual Jews by their community, their identity, their hierarchies, their rabbis, their bossy females, their insufferable males, their smug, striving, ungrateful children. The constant kvetching is a displacement activity, because they don’t have the guts to revolt and walk away from the BS. And why not? Because even a Jewish schlemiel is better than a Goy! So, they stick with the program. And kvetch kvetch kvetch. And these kvetchers think they have the key to saving others, and the world!!!????

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  62. @bj

    So you acknowledge that his critical facts were wrong and say it doesn’t matter? He’s just a good fellow who splutters a bit witlessly when he emotes? You also?

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  63. Them Guys says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    That the DC Chabad bunch, have their own spare key to whitehouse side door near rose garden perhaps can be a clue as to your questions eh.

    Or that most every key position in all what matters in govnt-msm-universitys-culture-society-Hollywood-control of 65+ Million duped apostate jewdeo-christian-zios-and their apostate seminaries. Can also give you a few hints or clues as answers.

    Besides it matters not just how many jews….have any interest in or knowledge of the Talmud, let alone the Kabbalah, how influential they are and how they use their influence… As you asked, main issues is aprox 99% of jewry sticks like super glue with and to every tribe member, and jewish leadership, and unquestionably defend every jew no matter what…..Very alike as to how you and a few others here at unz always defend jews, and make more excuses for jews than carters has pills.

    Jews are akin to a huge army of soldiers, very few if any actually know the top five star general running the show…Very few if any ever spoke with the five star general…But also, none disobey that five star general either. They stick like super glue…Same as negroes, only negroes stick together like Gorilla Glue, no matter what.

    That is a big part of reason that both are what makes up Americas two worst ever curses.

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  64. Usually, I can’t finish Saker when he goes on and on about Russia but this time it’s different… could not get enough!

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  65. AaronB says:
    @Skeptikal

    those who know themselves to be right don’t ask questions of themselves and certainly aren’t interested in what others think or want.

    Conversely, those who incessantly question themselves end up questioning away their very self confidence and reason for existing.

    The ultimate questions in life cannot be answered through questioning – they must be assumed a priori.

    Anyone who has not understood this yet is a child.

    The most important questions in life must be assumed – they cannot be questioned.

    Ones ultimate assumptions frame ones questioning – even the validity of logic cannot be proved, but must be an a priori assumption. Hume showed this. Causality itself is an a priori assumption.

    One can question strategies and tactics, or more importantly, one can question if ones behavior is truly in line with one’s a priori assumptions – and in this area Jews are woefully deficient. But this questioning is framed by a priori assumptions about goals.

    Modern Europeans have simply chosen certain a priori assumptions that others have not – the conceit that they are free from a priori assumptions is false. Even though philosophers have showed that causality cannot be proved, moderns have chosen to accept it as an a priori assumption.

    So modern Europeans are unique for having become blind to their a priori assumptions and pretending that they have none.

    The a priori assumptions moderns have chosen have resulted in a very simplistic epistemology and metaphysics that has not allowed them to flourish.

    When this is overcome, a new chapter in the history of the West can begin.

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  66. Them Guys says:
    @renfro

    renfro: that is a very great description you wrote. It also explains how in the world jews could do such horrific and horrendous, vicious, tortures when acting as Bolshevik jewish mass murderers during the 1917 jewish revolt against Whites and Christians in Russia, and then in every eastern euro country.

    It is one thing to have to kill an real enemy, as in a war. Or to have to kill in self defense as in a home being robbed by some unknown perp. But to plot and plan, then go to round up huge masses, fast murder many, and take others captive all the time knowing you are going to also murder them too. But your main reason to take some captive is to amuse yourselves by performing what any sane person can only state as, the absolute worst ever heard of tortures!

    Tortures that are rivaled only by historical recorded events of when, in Rome how Christians were thrown to the Lions and Gladiators for amusements of the crowds. Crowds no doubt which contained a huge number of jews salivating at the mass murders of totally innocent persons back then eh.

    Indeed every tiny detail your posting mentions about the several mental derangements of such psychos, well describes what must be the very same mental state those jewish Bolsheviks were in when they did that stuff during jewish revolt in Russia etc.

    When a few years ago I found and read online a book by Juri Lina called Under the sign of scorpio, which is all about the entire 1917 take over of Russia by jew Bolsheviks, and explains those tortures in great detail. I admit….several times I had to stop reading for a while due to a real true sick to stomach feeling creeping over me as I read it…Words like Horrible and Horrific barely come close to proper words, if any words exist, to describe such brutal savagery jews did to those poor souls.

    After I read that online book, and combined with knowledge I knew from prior research on jewry issues and agendas …I could well understand reasons jews as a whole wish to keep such info well hidden from the prying eyes of the Goyim folks like me, and that other 99.98% of global humanity population aka non jews. It is a wonderment that so far jewry has not yet been literally hunted down worldwide eh. Americans better never ever allow for a total disarmament of private owned firearms here in usa…Because most grand kids of orig Bolshevik jews now live here in usa.

    And from all we seen to date, and ever since at least 1900 era, they will do to Us the very same their grand parents did in Russia if we are unable to resist via huge armed numbers. They are foaming at mouth to do it here. It can be seen in their evil eyes darkness that lacks a morsel of light from within if one simply looks into their eyes when on tv news etc. Pure jewdeo satanic evil.

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  67. Skeptikal says:
    @AaronB

    Who said anything about “incessantly.”
    What a bore, incessantly lecturing. And how exhausting it must be!
    Looks like you are convinced you have all the answers to life’s questions.
    This is an a priori disqualification for being taken seriously or engaged with any further, IMO.

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  68. Art says:

    Orthodox Judaism, which is the scion of the religion of the ancient Pharisees, is above all, self-worship, and pride is the paramount destroyer.

    “Self-worship, and pride” is the best descriptive notion of the Jew.

    Jews feed on the notion they are god’s people. And that they are superior because of it. (Of course it is the Euro Jew who excels – not the ME Jew of antiquity.)

    Personally I question their superiority – we do not see superior Jew arguments on this blog. What we see is self-worship and pride. They lose most every fact based argument.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

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  69. peterAUS says:
    @Skeptikal

    Looks like you are convinced you have all the answers to life’s questions.

    Don’t say…….

    O.K. maybe not all but, apparently the most important ones.

    That opens another question (for some):
    How a skeptic can talk with an all/most knowing one?

    Funny.

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  70. Art says:
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    The a priori assumptions moderns have chosen have resulted in a very simplistic epistemology and metaphysics that has not allowed them to flourish.

    So we must throw Quantum Physics and Relativity out the window for some Eastern esoteric something.

    Hmm – what has Eastern philosophy ever produced that was not better done by the West?

    Hmm – why is the East acquiring the West’s jewels – science, music, dress, and economics.

    Think Peace — Art

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  71. Miro23 says:

    I have been privileged ever since to lead the precarious life of an unaffiliated professional historian, while sometimes moonlighting as a copy editor for mainstream publications in the U.S.

    IOW the precarious life of a real historian free from the threats and bribes of PC employment.

    Contrast with most professional “historians” who know what they can/can’t write about on “sensitive subjects” (and who are little more than state propagandists).

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  72. AaronB says:
    @Skeptikal

    Of course you can do as you wish, but instead of complaining about Jews seeing themselves as a priori right, why not learn to see yourself and your culture as a priori right – by aligning yourself, however imperfectly, with the moral law?

    Instead of complaining that I have all the answers and I lecture you – why don’t you have all the answers and lecture me? Why do you lack that self confidence? Perhaps because you are trapped within your a priori assumptions that only material things are real and only smallness is possible?

    You are basically whining that Jews have self confidence – because they see themselves as striving to achieve the moral law.

    Instead of matching the Jews sense of greatness – you complain that everyone should see themselves as small, like you.

    That’s the problem with modern Europeans in a nutshell.

    Which is fine, but it just means there is nothing to expect from Europeans for the time being.

    You may continue your whining now.

    The interesting things in the next century will not take place among westerners.

    You can watch from the sidelines and complain that others dare to have self confidence and not expect only small things from themselves. I’m sure it will be quite exasperating and you can marvel at the narcissism of those demand great things from themselves.

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  73. AI says:
    @AaronB

    I read your comments with great interest. They basically confirm what Hoffmann says.

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  74. AaronB says:
    @Art

    Quantum physics has not been accepted culturally by Europeans – Europeans are stuck in the metaphysics of 18th century materialism and Newtonian physics.

    That is the reigning metaphysics today. All a priori assumptions, and a great dumbing down.

    The modern period was a process – as it progressed, the old metaphysics coexisted in unstable but fertile and suggestive equilibrium with the new metaphysics till our era, when the new a priori assumptions finally won decisively and the process ended. We finally live in the triumph of modernity.

    Our science and music was the product of the fertile interaction of the old and new metaphysics, and much of our art is a brilliant protest against the new metaphysics.

    There is no such thing as eastern philosophy – there is only modern and pre modern.

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  75. AaronB says:
    @AI

    Good. How will you fight me then? With materialism, individualism, and small mindedness?

    I am a deceiving Jew – will you just whine that I should be less narcissistic or will you come up with some big vision of your own to fight me with?

    People like vision – as long as you have only small mindededness and reasonableness, skepticism and self-interest, the majority of high quality people, to use Anatoly Karlins phrase, will be on the side of the deceiving Jew.

    We offer them big visions – mana, sweet nectar. You offer them ashes.

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  76. joe webb says:
    @annamaria

    Annamaria, the solution is not “education”….which plays second or third fiddle to religion and/or emotion.

    IN politics there is a period of ideological, for want of a better term, struggle. Some thinking goes into that period. But at a certain point, the thinking is exhausted and war starts. Same thing in a marriage for example.

    It matters little which
    variety of Judaism won out for the mainstream. Conservative and Reform judaism have no role in Israel and arguably not much either in the putative conservative and reform. in the West.

    It is all Talmudic and will not be altered.

    The Saker’s own form of Talmudism, is Racial Equality Ism. Any deviation from that Mindlessness and you are a nazi or the devil, or both.

    I don’t merely ‘attack’ the Saker, I simply point out that he loves MLK and hates White or any kind of racial nationalism, which is objectively a sabotage of White Survival. There are lots of Christians around who are not Israel firsters and who acknowledge racial inequality.

    My cousin, a Moody Bible Institute fundamentalist, is one of them, at least the latter one of racial inequality acknowledged.

    The Saker is unreliable given his extreme views of apparently the Russian Church and the Universalism thereof. There is no universalism..that is a lie and is totalitarian. The world is full of particulars and race difference is one of the obvious ones once one has discarded the blinders of Love Everyone.

    Take the Chinks, please. They are plotting to take us over, Far more dangerous than Africans, Jews, and our own white ladies who luv too much. Puppy dog politics is their wont.

    Joe Webb

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  77. Skeptikal says:
    @AaronB

    Gawd.
    I mean, gadzooks!

    “Small, like you.”
    Uh, who the eff are you? Mr. Ayn Rand?
    Or just a common-variety nutter?

    Good night, sleep tight, Mr. obnoxious megalomaniac of the Hebraic ilk, and don’t let the narcissistic bedbugs bite! Glad you ain’t MY reb!

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  78. nickels says:
    @AaronB

    I see what you are getting at.
    I think it is quite simple to get a handle on, really.
    Western culture is (roughly speaking) derived from Christianity, and thus Christ, who is the Λογος, i.e. the fundamental pattern of reason, order and static foundation of the evolution of things in the universe.
    Jews reject the Logos and thus do not acknowledge that there is an underlying order to the world. Apparently some eastern religions share this disposition.
    There is a certain power to this revolutionary way of approaching things, but as Christians it is not our way, but rather Christ and adherence to reason is our way.
    Of course, only the saints attain pure, dispassionate reason, but it remains our aim, even if it is to our temporary disadvantage.

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  79. Wally says:
    @AaronB

    said:
    “You are basically whining that Jews have self confidence – because they see themselves as striving to achieve the moral law.”

    Yeah boy. “Achieving the moral law” by lying about their ’6,000,000′ since at least 1823. Some morality that is. LOL

    Jews have been pushing their ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1823:

    https://imgur.com/a/0LFFF

    and:
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php

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  80. Skeptikal says:
    @peterAUS

    Answer: No one can talk to an “all-knowing one.”
    Because the latter is only on “broadcast” and can’t switch to “receive. ”
    Cannot say, “Roger. Over and out.”
    Reb Aaron actually states that this is the proper state of affairs.
    The “all-knowing” (tee hee) love the sound of their drone.
    They think their listeners are awe-struck at their crock.
    They scarcely notice that they are droning alone.

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  81. Miro23 says:

    To free Judaic persons from these two prisons is an act of compassion and charity. We should never forget that our work is pro-Judaic. It is the Talmudic and Kabbalistic rabbis and Zionists who are putting Judaic people on the road to ruin.

    And also putting the other 98% of the US population (Gentiles) on the road to ruin. When this thing blows up, it has the potential to be a cataclysmic event.

    George Orwell wrote about, “… the spiritual need for patriotism and the military virtues, for which, however little the boiled rabbits of the Left may like them, no substitute has yet been found.” (1940 “My Country Right of Left”).

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  82. @Them Guys

    I can’t imagine how so many UR threadsters have difficulty with the idea that lots of Nazis, including at the top really wanted Jews irreversibly eliminated from Europe.

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  83. AaronB says:
    @nickels

    Interesting.

    But I think the worship of reason comes from Greek philosophy. I don’t think you’ll find it in Christianity. Orthodox Christianity certainly does not worship reason. And before the 11th century, the whole Christian world was orthodox.

    The point is not to “revolt” against reason, merely to understand what is its appropriate sphere. Its very valid in its sphere.

    The problem begins when you enthrone reason. This is a problem because reason can prove very little – even so basic a thing as cause and effect, reason cannot prove.

    So when you limit yourself to what reason can prove, it turns out to be very little.

    And then what’s left.

    And yet, there seems no reason to limit yourself to what reason can prove. That seems to be a choice. An a priori assumption. Since reason cannot furnish a basis for itself.

    Now, just because reason can prove very little doesn’t mean you can just make it up as you go along – you have to rely on feedback from the world.

    The Logos of which you speak could never be demonstrated through reason – in fact it is reason which destroyed it.

    The Jewish revolutionary spirit is “spoilt religion” – it is about achieving the state of transcendental oneness in the physical realm. Men must be the same as women, blacks the same as whites, the whole world One.

    But the particularity we find in the physical world is as real as the underlying Oneness which is ultimate truth, and seeking to make the physical realm One is the misapplication of spirituality, just as applying reason to ultimate questions it cannot prove is the misapplication of reason.

    When the world became materialistic there was nowhere for the spiritual impulse to express itself – the intuition of Oneness could only seek an outlet in denying the obvious physical differences we see around us.

    That’s the poz, in a nutshell.

    The way to fight this is to no longer limit ourselves to what reason can demonstrate, which is an unnecessary a priori assumption that has no basis in reason, and restore the spiritual realm.

    If we seek to fight the poz with reason, we won’t win, because the poz was created by limiting our perception of reality to what reason can demonstrate, thus denying our desire for Oneness any outlet.

    The “Jewish vision” dominates because it offers Oneness in the physical realm, while the “white vision” offers only what can be demonstrated by reason, which is very little – the whole emotional and spiritual side of man is denied an outlet.

    To combat the Jewish “spoilt religion” of obliterating physical particularities by denying their reality, we must provide a healthy and correct outlet for the desire for Oneness (love, connection) that we all have.

    But this desire cannot be ignored, and if the Jewish game is the only one in town, however corrupted it is, it will more satisfying.

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  84. @Heros

    HEROS

    The hillbillies and hicks from Podunk cities in the South or interior might be able to avoid them but if you are a Yankee who wants to function in society as a normal white-collar American or even have a sex partner (Most on this blog have been jerking off to Jewish women in porn all their life) it is really hard to avoid them.

    ZOG aside, they won’t attack you like the blacks or the Latinos. We can argue that they will rip off the Federal Reserve and get off free but the only time you will see a Jew beating and robbing a Gentile is in a DEATH WISH film with Jeff Goldblum.

    Nobody is complaining that Jewish children are ruining the school system.

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  85. Talha says:
    @AaronB

    You made three excellent observations:
    1) The simplistic epistemology of modernity is not adequate to the multi level complexity of pre modern thought
    2) Quantum physics has not been accepted culturally by Europeans
    3) the intuition of Oneness could only seek an outlet in denying the obvious physical differences we see around us. That’s the poz, in a nutshell.

    Remind me once this thread winds down, there are two really good short clips of Shaykh Hamza Yusuf talking about these topics; causality, beyond excluded middle, Ash’ari take on reality of the world and its tie in with quantum physics. I’d post it now but it’ll potentially attract too much nonsense right now.

    Peace.

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  86. skrik says:
    @jilles dykstra

    in quantum mechanics anything goes, also temporary exceptions,

    Me: Yes and no. Yes, there is the uncertainty principle: “the more precisely the position of some particle is determined, the less precisely its momentum can be known, and vice versa.” Also yes, there may be ‘loss of locality;’ a perfect example of which is the interference pattern created in the ‘double slit’ experiment. Also, there are ‘virtual particles’ which may ‘temporarily’ appear then disappear. But no, none of these odd effects violate conservation; i.e. the virtual particles ‘borrow’ energy from the environment so the books always stay balanced.

    Any information ‘arriving’ from outside the universe would upset the conservation books and so can’t happen, leading to religious belief [in a supernatural 'creator' or 'life after death,' say] being unsubstantiable wishful thinking, based on zero information. rgds

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  87. Them Guys says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    There you go again with a goofy reply that has zero todo with what I replied to you prior. As for this reply you wonder of difficulty so many at unz have with Nazis idea of wanted jews eliminated from Europe?…..Whats so difficult, I too want jews Gone from my nation America. I got no problem with that small percentage of jews that don’t act like typical jews…All one dozen or so, welcome to remain here. You automatically think every use of word of eliminate means Gaaassss dem jews!

    I believe from so much research of WWII issues once we go past jewish/zios mass of lies and holyhoax scams, that Nazis main goal was to remove jewry from germany and Europe also, by Moving them to a different location. Like Palestine or first idea was Madagascar perhaps…Mainly ANYWHERE else just get them out and gone while some small part of your country still remains worth fixing….Same as 109 other countries have ben forced to do, due to jewy jewish bads wrongs and evils jews always foment. Geeez now jews even mess up Israel! Everywheres jews exist ends up royally fucked up. Same as negroes fuck up every place they exist within.

    So yes I understand reasons Nazis desired to rid Europe and especially germany from jews in general..That don’t equate to mass killing though. You cannot comprehend such truths. You are Not a jew IIRC(?) Yet like many brainwashed gentiles you seem to always try to be number one up to bat in unquestioned defense of jews no matter what…I know why folks like you do that.

    But sure wish you types would finally awaken and be able to admit that in all history jewry has been a menace…Even in new testament verses it states that “They(jews) Are the Adversaries(enemys) of God and of ALL of Mankind…….What do you, and those other pavlov puppie like, jew defenders not as yet get eh?

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  88. anonymous[180] • Disclaimer says:
    @nickels

    but rather Christ and adherence to reason is our way

    Adherence to reason?!! More like, Adherence to Hearsay! You understand that the concept of divinity/”son-of-god” was cooked up centuries after Christ left this earth? What you follow now is adulterated hearsay. You people have completely surrendered your spiritual existence to the imaginations of fallible humans. That certainly doesn’t sound very smart and reasonable.

    Anyway, the pagan concepts of “in-his-image” human-like deities also contradict your claim of “adherence to reason.” Because it beggars belief that an infinitely powerful God could be like you and I. Now, take a brief moment to consider the human form, both internal and external… quite simply, blind faith induced insanity.

    And, if indeed human-like deities are logical, would you concede, if begrudgingly, that the hindoos could potentially be onto the truth too? That is, if Christ is “god,” why can’t “Shiva or Ganesh or …,” be “gods” too?

    only the saints attain pure, dispassionate reason

    Again, a very pagan dogma… of sainthood. You understand the deceitful manner in which sainthood is conferred, right? You really think “mother” Theresa was a “saint,” that she really conjured up miracles? LOL! A most ludicrous idea indeed.

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  89. anonymous[180] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    Your post reminds me of the deceitful mumbo-jumbo of the eastern pagan faiths… deceitful profundity, leading off on a tangent, on a path farther from the One and only.

    If you can’t convince them, confuse them… yeah?

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  90. Wally says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    News flash!! The National Socialists wanted Jews deported from Europe. LOL
    So what?

    There is no proof for the impossibly alleged ‘extermination of 6M Jews’.
    There is, however, plenty of proof that Jew have been faking their ’6M’ since at least 1823.

    Certainly the communist USSR wanted Christians “irreversibly eliminated”

    Certainly Jews want Muslims “irreversibly eliminated” from Palestine, aka: ‘Israel’.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  91. Z-man says:
    @joe webb

    Yeah, what is the Saker’s background? He be a Joo? I would think he is…but since he’s anonymous I can’t ‘nail’ it. (Grin)

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  92. j2 says:
    @AaronB

    “Instead of complaining that I have all the answers and I lecture you – why don’t you have all the answers and lecture me? Why do you lack that self confidence?”

    Funny, what I have noticed in this blog is that these people have very few valid arguments on anything. Poor thinking capabilities combined with very little knowledge, incapable of original research, finally they tend to retard to childish babble like wackadoodleconspeeracy! I can’s you take them seriously. I doubt the high IQ claim, looks just the opposite.

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  93. j2 says:
    @AaronB

    “Instead of complaining that I have all the answers and I lecture you – why don’t you have all the answers and lecture me? Why do you lack that self confidence?”

    Funny, what I have noticed in this blog is that these people have very few valid arguments on anything. Poor thinking capabilities combined with very little knowledge, incapable of original research, finally they tend to retard to childish babble like wackadoodleconspeeracy, and to lousy efforts on sarcasm. I can’t take them seriously. I doubt the high IQ claim, looks just the opposite.

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  94. @jilles dykstra

    For example the archaeological mosaic floors in Galilee of the Pharisee 1st/2nd century synagogues do show next to the depiction of the Sun god Helios a surprising amount of unique depictions of Samson. Now the thought arises from these archaeological finds, whether Samson was not a local hero from Galilee instead from the Judah region bordering on the Philistines. “Philistine” may be interpreted as a nickname of the occupying Romans.

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  95. j2 says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Wizard writes:
    “What is lacking is any idea of just how many Jews have any interest in or knowledge of the Talmud, let alone the Kabbalah, how influential they are and how they use their influence.”

    Need to know basis.
    This I copied from MacDonald’s classic:
    “Collectivist cultures develop an “unquestioned attachment” to the ingroup, including “the perception that ingroup norms are universally valid (a form of ethnocentrism), automatic obedience to ingroup authorities, and willingness to fight and die for the ingroup. These characteristics are usually associated with distrust of and unwillingness to cooperate with outgroups”
    No need to personally know the Talmud, let alone the Kabbalah.

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  96. Calm says:

    Why is it that it is quite Okay to talk about and investigate concerns about the holocaust against the Aboriginal Peoples in North America and yet be treated like a child molester when discussing and investigating the Jewish Holocaust?

    “Can anyone express reservations about a papal decree and not be anti-Catholic? Can anyone be critical of the pilgrimages to Mecca, which often end in tragedy, and not be anti-Islam? Can anyone be critical of the African negligence on the AIDS crisis and not be racist?”

    http://killinghope.org/bblum6/aer43.htm

    I believe that the attacks against Jewish Folks in Germany in 1930-31, was not explicitly against the Jewish Folks, but rather against the “Ruling Class” or the “Prominent Upper Class”.

    One needs to recall that these attacks upon “Prominent” individuals was taking place immediately after the 1929 stock market crash and the beginning days of the Great Depression. Pawnshop owners were attacked. Anybody who even smelled of wealth was attacked.

    There were attacks against the “Educated Class” because the whole of humanity wanted revenge against those folks who have all the PHD’s after their names ….. Because the best educated came from the most wealthy families and had been proven to be the best liars!

    Poor Folks across Europe remembered how the “Prominent Folks” flaunted their wealth during the Roaring 20′s, and after the crash of ’29, the Poor Folks resented having to take their family heirlooms and valuables to a pawnshop just to feed their families. It just so happened, that a majority of pawn shops were owned by Gypsies and Jews and thus would indicate the reason why, to this day, the word “Gypsy” has a narrative which is almost identical to that of the Jewish folks.

    I have little doubt that the word “Jew” was being spewed from the mouths of people standing in crowded soup lines in Downtown Germany simply because the two or three main Financial/Banking houses in the universe at the time were of Jewish origin. It would be only natural. In the same way that “Muslim” is spewed from disgruntled mouths within the crowded U.S. funeral lines after a terrorist attack.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_D._Rockefeller

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldman_Sachs

    The population of Europe began to force their governments to begin seizing all valuables/assets of the “Prominent Folks”. (Not specifically “Jewish Folks”.)

    The population across Europe viewed the “Richness” as being earned from the avails of crime (fraud) and thus should be seized as what is done with prostitutes and pimps.

    I am quite positive that if each country within Europe (immediately after the crash of 1929), had deliberately set out to arrest and imprison the top 10 thousand “Prominent” individuals within the finance/regulatory system of each country, a majority of those being arrested would of been Jewish Folks simply because of the inordinate amount of prestige, wealth and influence they held within all of Europe at the time. And because they were the best educated as well.

    I don’t think that these arrests and attacks could be claimed as being “Anti-Semitism”. It was unavoidable because if you arrested just 10 business leaders from the Ruling Class (most prominent people) within any European country at the time, there is little doubt that a majority of those arrested would of been of Jewish origin.

    Religion (and thus anti-Semitism) was first introduced into the mix by the Jewish Folks themselves.

    As Hitler began to seize the assets and wealth of “Prominent People” in Germany, the American Jewish Congress declared a “Holy War” against Germany and encouraged a boycott of German products on March 12, 1933. A mere 3 years into Great Depression or after the crash of 1929. “Holy War” is the exact term used by Samuel Untermyer at the time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Untermyer

    (I find it ironic that the Jewish Folks would encourage a boycott and yet today would heap scorn on the BDS movement.)

    It was the worldwide Jewish leadership – not the Third Reich – that effectively fired the first shot in the Second World War.

    Few people know the facts about the singular event that helped spark what ultimately became known as World War II – the international Jewish declaration of war on Germany shortly after Adolf Hitler came to power and well before any official German government sanctions or reprisals against Jews were carried out. The March 24, 1933 issue of The Daily Express of London described how Jewish leaders, in combination with powerful international Jewish financial interests, had launched a boycott of Germany for the express purpose of crippling her already precarious economy in the hope of bringing down the new Hitler regime. It was only then that Germany struck back in response.

    In early 1933, Hitler was not the undisputed leader of Germany, nor did he have full command of the armed forces. Hitler was a major figure in a coalition government, but he was far from being the government himself. That was the result of a process of consolidation which evolved later.

    Despite all this, the leaders of the Jewish community refused to relent. On March 27 there were simultaneous protest rallies at Madison Square Garden, in Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Cleveland and 70 other locations. The New York rally was broadcast worldwide. The bottom line is that “the New Germany” was declared to be an enemy of Jewish interests and thus needed to be economically strangled. This was before Hitler decided to boycott Jewish goods.

    This New York Daily News front page headline hailed the massive anti-German protest rally held in Madison Square Garden on March 27, 1933. Despite efforts by the German government to alleviate tensions and prevent the escalation of name-calling and threats by the international Jewish leadership, the rally was held as scheduled. Similar rallies and protest marches were also being held in other cities during the same time frame. The intensity of the Jewish campaign against Germany was such that the Hitler government vowed that if the campaign did not stop, there would be a one-day boycott in Germany of Jewish-owned stores. Despite this, the hate campaign continued, forcing Germany to take defensive measures that created a situation wherein the Jews of Germany became increasingly marginalized.

    It was in direct response to this that the German government announced a one-day boycott of Jewish businesses in Germany on April 1. German Propaganda Minister Dr. Joseph Goebbels announced that if, after the one-day boycott, there were no further attacks on Germany, the boycott would be stopped. Hitler himself responded to the Jewish boycott and the threats in a speech on March 28 – four days after the original Jewish declaration of war – saying:

    “Now that the domestic enemies of the nation have been eliminated by the Volk itself, what we have long been waiting for will not come to pass.”

    “The Communist and Marxist criminals and their Jewish-intellectual instigators, who, having made off with their capital stocks across the border in the nick of time, are now unfolding an unscrupulous, treasonous campaign of agitation against the German Volk as a whole from there….”

    “Lies and slander of positively hair-raising perversity are being launched about Germany. Horror stories of dismembered Jewish corpses, gouged out eyes and hacked off hands are circulating for the purpose of defaming the German Volk in the world for the second time, just as they had succeeded in doing once before in 1914.”

    http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html

    And finally ….

    There are many claims as to the viciousness heaped upon Jewish Folks within Europe at the time.

    I believe that this was because in the early 1930′s millions and millions of refugees streamed into Europe after fleeing Joseph Stalin and his henchmen in Russia.

    Stalin committed his worst crimes well before Hitler’s major atrocities got under way. His concentration camps were opened and filled with inmates by the early 1930’s.

    To this day, Russian and foreign historians are unsure of the full number of Lenin and Stalin’s victims. Estimates range from 20–40 million total deaths from 1922 to 1953 – and this awesome figure does not include deaths in World War II.

    Millions upon millions of refugees with a vicious hatred towards Joseph Stalin and most especially towards those who held the most senior posts within the in the Soviet security apparatuses.

    And, in 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts were supervised and managed by Folks of Jewish origin. (The most well educated and from very influential Jewish families.)

    http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3342999,00.html

    I have little doubt that the word “Jew” was being spewed from the mouths of the millions of Russian refugees standing in crowded soup lines in downtown Germany, and with an awful hate-on towards the Jewish Folks.

    During the bitter winter of 1932–33, 25,000 Ukrainians per day were being shot or dying of starvation and cold.

    In 1932–33, Stalin unleashed genocide against Ukraine’s independent-minded farmers. Six to seven million Ukrainians were shot or purposely starved to death. Starving Ukrainians even resorted to cannibalism. The man who directed this genocide, Lazar Kaganovitch, the Soviet Eichmann ….

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazar_Kaganovich

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Sverdlov

    From 1934–1941 alone, some 7 million victims were sent to the system of concentration camps known as the “gulag,” including one million Poles, hundreds of thousands Lithuanians, Latvians and Estonians, and half the entire Muslim Chechen and Ingush people. Volga Germans, Crimean Tatars, Bashkirs, Kalmyks followed. Stalin’s gulag did not need gas chambers: cold, disease and overwork killed 30% of inmates yearly.

    The souls of Stalin’s millions of victims still cry out for justice.

    I am not claiming that the Jewish Folks “Deserved” it.

    What I am trying to point out is that the harassment and arrests of “Prominent Folks” in Germany (1929-1933) began as “Class Warfare” and was not specifically aimed at a particular “Religion” or religious sect.

    I believe that Hitler rule began with a “Peoples Revolt Against The Ruling Class”.

    I don’t think that the holocaust had anything much to do with Religious Belief, but rather it was the People rising up against “Inequality” and it just so happened that Jewish Folks held the most senior posts within the Financial/Regulatory System.

    And the same thing is happening today as the World Economy continues to crumble.

    Today, as in Europe during the 1930′s, people across the universe are really pissed off and they want the “Economic Terrorists” (those in charge of supervising the finance/regulatory systems) to be strung up on lamp posts, out behind some gas station, or in some sinister dark alley.

    People are just as angry at all the Elites (Not specifically the Jews) as they were all across Europe during the 1930s.

    On My Mind; Wall Street Worries
    “SNIP”
    “Felix Rohatyn, the investment banker, has gone public with his concern, testifying before a Senate committee about the ”cancer called greed” that is threatening the financial industry. He talks of his fear of a vicious ”backlash.””
    “Fear of a particular backlash led to private meetings among some top Jewish figures in the industry, bankers, chief executive officers, heads of brokerages. The central topic was the fact that so many of the men caught cheating or about to be indicted were Jewish. There was concern that the backlash might carry a decided tinge of anti-Semitism. The anti-Jewish arbitrageur jokes are all around the street.”
    “Anybody with an ounce of sensitivity knows that anti-Semites do not need excuses to hate Jews. There is no need for Jews on Wall Street to feel called upon to explain the number of Jews involved any more than there is for the members of any race or religion to try to explain their evildoers.”
    “But anybody with an ounce of sensitivity also knows that this good advice will not prevail. Every minority group whose members are caught doing dirty worries anyway, even though it knows it should not have to.”
    “The religion of the crooks and near-crooks is not the issue. Anti-Semitism is not the issue either. The issue is that Wall Street every day practices what the people believe is just plain wrong. That is dangerous to Wall Street and to the rest of us.”
    By A. M. Rosenthal
    January 31, 1987

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DEED6103BF932A05752C0A961948260

    From The Above Mentioned Statement:

    …. “There is no need for Jews on Wall Street to feel called upon to explain the number of Jews involved any more than there is for the members of any race or religion to try to explain their evildoers.”….
    Well, it sure is quite different for Arabs and Muslims
    Hollywood and the media all demand that Muslims and/or Arabs (act as a group or sect) and explain (accept responsibility) for all the”Muslim Evildoers” and to become “Stereotyped Apologists” for suicide bombers, and express their outrage publically and distance themselves from such “Terrorist Idelology” (Militant Islam) following each and every incidence of terrorism worldwide.

    One would think that the group of “Economic Terrorists” within the banking sector could then be asked to explain themselves as well, and each time a bank fails or where financial fraud rears it ugly face.

    The Word “Terrorist”
    “More than 2,000 years ago the first known acts of what we now call terrorism were perpetrated by a radical offshoot of the Zealots, a Jewish sect active in Judea during the 1st century ad.”

    http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761564344_3/association_with_Jewish_terrorism.html

    “Ghada Karmi notes that the word “terrorist” was invented by the British to describe the Jewish Irgun and the Stern Gang and its killers, two of whom became prime ministers of Israel.”
    –John Pilger, Israel No Longer Immune To Truthful Media Criticism, October 05, 2002–

    http://pilger.carlton.com/print/118297

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghada_Karmi

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(group)

    I believe that we are being told that the holocaust against the Jewish Folks was carried out because of their religious beliefs because the Upper class don’t ever want anybody to think about (much less talk about or even entertain the thought) of attacking them in the same way as what happened in Europe after the crash in 1929. Especially after the Capitalists watched their mentors (in the 1930′s) being strung up on lamp posts.

    So the Capitalists sell us the holocaust as being a war against a particular religion and not against a particular Prominent Class of people.

    It suits the American Capitalists quite well to blitz the population with the “Myth” of the holocaust being a “Religious” war and not a “Class War” as it really was.

    At the same time that Hitler was killing off the prominent capitalists and their friends in Germany, the U.S. capitalists were practicing eugenics (Human Betterment Foundation), enforcing Jim Crow Laws, using Zyklon-B for executions, sterilizations by force, experimentation within mental homes and using humans as medical guinea pigs, and were continuing the holocaust against the North American Indians,

    All done against poor people.

    Ain’t capitalism just great?

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  97. annamaria says:
    @Anon

    The Talmudists-style behavior of the zionized (badly infected) US government: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-24/how-us-under-obama-created-europes-refugee-crisis
    “Currently, the membership of NATO includes all of the former Warsaw Pact nations … Mikhail Gorbachev hadn’t the slightest idea of how evil was (and still is) America’s Deep State (that which controls America). But now we all know. History is clear and unambiguous on the matter. …
    The refugee crisis [in Europe] isn’t due to the refugees themselves, and it’s not due to Europe’s leaders; it is due to the almost constantly lying US regime – the people who actually control America’s Government and America’s international corporations.
    The real problem isn’t across the Mediterranean; it is across the Atlantic. That’s where Europe’s enemy is.”
    — The Wars for Israel caused 4 million deaths — and counting: https://www.mintpressnews.com/4-million-muslims-killed-in-western-wars-should-we-call-it-genocide/208711/
    “Neoconservative Influences on US Policies:” http://historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=neoconservatives

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  98. AaronB says:
    @j2

    Of course Jews are not smarter than whites. We know this now beyond any doubt that according to IQ tests there are significantly more smart whites than Jews. Significantly more.

    Jews set the agenda and punch far above their weight because they have better pre-modern metaphysics than you. This doesn’t only make them more motivated but attracts the overwhelming majority of high quality whites.

    Conversely, the alt-right attracts mid-level and low-level whites for the most part because it’s primary appeal is to our lower nature. In times of crisis, appeals to our lower nature may work, but they are not the basis for a long term civilization.

    Jews also have better pre-modern epistemology than whites which gives them the mental flexibility needed to successfully handle reality. Whites believe their initial logical assessment of a situation is likely to be final – so they will give up on a task as impossible. Jews have faith – so they will continue to wrestle with an “impossible” task well past what reason would dictate. And solutions often emerge.

    White metaphysics is that only what logic can prove is real – which is very little. And leaves out our emotional side, which means it leaves out all pleasure and happiness.

    Jewish metaphysics offers a corrupted form of idealism and vision, which high quality people crave.

    Until whites can match the moral vision of Jews with a more correct and honest version, the Jewish corrupted vision will continue to set the agenda. It’s the only game in town in the West.

    To do that whites must get past their a priori assumption that only what logic can prove is real – but so far, whites have been tenaciously defending this metaphysical vision which there is no earthly reason to defend, because logic itself furnished no basis for it.

    So in the meantime, those who are capable if offering idealism – however corrupted – will continue to set the agenda and domo ate cultural and intellectual life.

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  99. nickels says:
    @AaronB

    But I think the worship of reason comes from Greek philosophy. I don’t think you’ll find it in Christianity. Orthodox Christianity certainly does not worship reason. And before the 11th century, the whole Christian world was orthodox.

    The point is not to “revolt” against reason, merely to understand what is its appropriate sphere. Its very valid in its sphere.
    ..
    So when you limit yourself to what reason can prove, it turns out to be very little.
    ..
    And yet, there seems no reason to limit yourself to what reason can prove. That seems to be a choice. An a priori assumption. Since reason cannot furnish a basis for itself.

    The Christian faith was seen as the ‘scientific, reasonable’ religion, as opposed to the pagan randomness in ancient times. Yes, Logos was prefigured in the Greek world (although they killed it with hemlock), and it was seen in other parts of the world through the Tao, and parts of the early Indian religons, etc. And then, through the incarnation, the full revelation was delivered to mankind.

    The Orthodox, and (to a varying extent) other Christians view the Logos as permeating the world and providing mankind a path to expression and understanding of that world, however, that is not the extent of the understanding. The essence of God, the creation, the world before the fall, demons, angels, are all in the realm beyond human understanding, and so a part of the mystery of creation. They share in the Logos, but in that part which transcends man’s ability to compute and understand.

    So, in fact, Christianity agrees with your expression that reason alone is not enough for a full existence, and is not enough to explain all; this has been a part of the tradition since the beginning. All existence is understood only through a combination of the mystery and the Logos.

    What Christianity does not condone, however, is half-truths and sophistry as a method of interaction. Christ demands we communicate truthfully and honestly with one another, not to manipulate as the pagans do. The devil is seen as the father of lies, and those who live in the world of lies he called out, cf John 8:44.

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  100. AaronB says:
    @Talha

    Thanks Talha.

    Ill try and remember and remind you.

    More and more I see the tenacious grip the poz has on our minds as more than just accidental – something this strong, that manages to appeal to the overwhelming majority of the best people, can only appeal to something basic in our nature and thus be a corrupted form of the truth.

    It seems to me the poz is “structurally” correct – desire to realize the underlying Oneness of life, i.e love and connection – but it is wrong in content and application.

    But once multi-dimensional reality was collapsed into one dimension – the material realm – the poz was inevitable. Overcoming the poz can – be definition – only mean overcoming secularism.

    In a way the strength of the poz is hopeful – it is incontrovertible proof that most of mankind is basically religious in nature and yearns for connection and love, especially the highest quality people.

    But at the same time, it must be overcome.

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  101. Mulegino1 says:
    @Them Guys

    I know what you mean. International Jewry has so far successfully deflected its own criminality onto the “evil Nazis” and become the victim because of that biggest of all big lies, the Holohoax. Without the mystical talisman of the “Six Million” and Jewry’s editorial control of popular “culture” (hardly culture, more like a viral infection in the cultural bloodstream) the masses would no doubt recoil in horror at the horrors that the Jews, as a collective, have wrought upon humanity in the last 100 years. But the kosher standard for evil imposed upon the collective conscious is “Hitler and the Nazis.” It is impossible to retain a vigorous, virile and viable authentic culture rooted in our fathers’ past when the main moral imperative of our society is to avoid being seen as a “Nazi” or a “Fascist” and allow ourselves to be dictated to by the Guardians of the Hoax and the paradigms of political correctness.

    We must demystify and demythologize the great world conflict of 1939-1945, and the Hollywood versions of Hitler as the devil and the “evil Nazis” and in doing so reclaim our Christian European heritage which has been infected by the spirit of groveling collective guilt, apologies and the payment of reparations ad infinitum to the ancient enemy of humanity, international Jewry. The wallowing in our own collective guilt and that of our progenitors must cease. We must make no more apologies for the past. We must focus our energies and our efforts on reclaiming our heritage and in exposing the greatest lie and blood libel of all time.

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  102. Milton says:

    Saint Maximillian Kolbe, the great Catholic Saint who exchanged his life for a fellow prisoner at Auschwitz, had the following to write about the relationship between the Zionists and Freemasons. Everyone just assumes that the Masons are in control. But in reality, it is the Zionists (who Maximillian Kolbe calls the “small squadron of Hebrews”) who are in control of the Freemasons:

    “Man was redeemed, and Christ founded His Church upon a rock. Some of the Hebrew people recognized Him as the Messiah, but others – among them principally the Pharisees – did not want to recognize Him. Instead, they persecuted His followers and issued numerous laws obliging the Jews to persecute the Christians. These laws, together with stories and appendixes, became their sacred book called The Talmud around the year 500. In this book Christians are called idolaters, worse than Turks, murderers, impure libertines; they are manure, animals in human form, worse than animals, children of the Devil, etc. Catholic priests are called fortune-tellers and bald-headed dunces … the Church is called a house of stupidity and filth; sacred statues, medals and rosaries are called idols. In The Talmud Sundays and holy days of obligation are considered days of perdition. This book teaches, among other things, that a Hebrew can deceive a Christian and steal from him since all the properties of a Christian are – from the text itself – ‘like the desert, the first to take them becomes the owner.’ This book, written in 12 volumes and breathing hatred against Christ, is considered by these Pharisees a sacred book, more important than Sacred Scriptures.” – Maximillian Kolbe, from his article “The Poor Ones”

    In another of Kolbe’s articles, “The Knight of the Immaculata,” written at the time of the International Congress of Freemasonry in Bucharest in 1926, he writes concerning the relationship between Zionism and Freemasonry:

    “These men [the Freemasons] believe that they are the ones who will rule everything, but let us hear what is written in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. Protocol n. 11 states: ‘We will create and put in effect the laws and the governments…in opportune moments…by means of national rebellions…What we want is that the multitudes, disoriented by the revolt, still in a condition of terror and uncertainty, should understand once and for all that we are so strong, so untouchable, so powerful that in no way will we take into account their opinions and wishes. Instead we are ready and able to crush with irresistible power their manifestations at any moment and in every place…Then, in fear and trembling, they will close their eyes to everything and await the consequences….For what purpose have we created this policy and insinuated it into the minds of the Masons, without giving them any possibility of examining its underlying meaning?…This is what has served as the basis for our secret organization of Masonry, whose existence is not known or even suspected by these cattle, attracted by us into the army of Masonic lodges…Freemasons, did you hear this? The Hebrews, who have secretly organized and secretly direct you, consider you as beasts, recruited into the Masonic lodges for ends that you neither know nor suspect…Are you aware, Freemasons, of what awaits those among you who will begin to think for themselves? Listen to this in the same Protocol: ‘Death is the inevitable conclusion of every life…We will execute the Masons in a way that no one can suspect, not even the victims themselves: They will all die at the moment it is deemed necessary, apparently because of common illnesses.’…Freemasons, you who recently during the Bucharest Congress were pleased by the fact that Masonry is growing stronger everywhere, reflect well and answer sincerely: Is it not better to serve the Creator with interior peace…rather than to obey the orders of those who hate you?…And you, small squadron of Hebrews, the ‘learned elders of Zion,’ who have already consciously provoked so many misfortunes and are preparing yet others, to you I direct this question: What advantage will you gain?…A huge accumulation of gold, pleasures, diversions and power, but none of this makes man happy. And if still it should give some happiness, how long will it last? Ten years perhaps, or twenty…I ask you, Hebrew leaders, you who have let yourselves be seduced by Satan, the enemy of humanity, would it not be better for you also to return sincerely to God?”

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  103. Art says:
    @AaronB

    Quantum physics has not been accepted culturally by Europeans

    Hmm????

    At CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, physicists and engineers are probing the fundamental structure of the universe. They use the world’s largest and most complex scientific instruments to study the basic constituents of matter – the fundamental particles. The particles are made to collide together at close to the speed of light. The process gives the physicists clues about how the particles interact, and provides insights into the fundamental laws of nature.

    The instruments used at CERN are purpose-built particle accelerators and detectors. Accelerators boost beams of particles to high energies before the beams are made to collide with each other or with stationary targets. Detectors observe and record the results of these collisions.

    Founded in 1954, the CERN laboratory sits astride the Franco-Swiss border near Geneva. It was one of Europe’s first joint ventures and now has 22 member states.

    Think Peace — Art

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  104. Wally says:
    @Calm

    Yawn. What a huge list half truths & lies regarding Germany & Hitler.

    The dead give away is the use of Zionist dominated Wikipedia, as if it’s content was unbiased, rational, & factal. It is not. It is filled with lies which benefit Jew special interests & profit.

    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    How Israel and Its Partisans Work to Censor the Internet: http://www.unz.com/article/how-israel-and-its-partisans-work-to-censor-the-internet/?highlight=wikipedia

    ‘Calm’ said:
    “…. well before Hitler’s major atrocities got under way. ”

    Yet there were no “major atrocities” by Hitler and no proof can be presented.

    ‘Calm’ has been fed & digested garbage and then posts garbage as a result, Garbage In, Garbage Out.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    See the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

    Poor guy, thinks he knows what he’s talking about.

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  105. @Calm

    Gypsies never owned anything. They were hated for being criminal South Asians who were thieves and muggers and prostitutes.

    As for capitalism, indeed it is a harsher system for the poorer and less educated than socialism. If you are clever and innovative, you’re better off in the United States. If you are the average ghetto black and get a chance to live in Australia, you’d like it better there.

    This is one reason so many Jews came to the United States as oppose to Australia or New Zealand. It is a pure, raw, harsh meritocracy.

    Anglo-Saxons themselves have not fared as well in the United States as they have in Canada or Australia, for example.

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  106. AaronB says:
    @nickels

    Thank you. I generally agree with much here.

    If Christianity presented itself as scientific this was to appeal to the rational pagans – but the overwhelming message is – if not actually to flout rationality – then to firmly subordinate it. Christianity is not mere “common sense” – what would be the point? We all have reasonable common sense by nature.

    Christ also said we should exercise situational cunning when he said we should be gentle as doves but cunning as serpents in our dealings with the world.

    What does Christian ethics says about telling the absolute truth when faced with a murderer asking the location of your family that is hiding in the basement? Is that situational ethics?

    For better or worse, that is how Jews see themselves in regards to the world. Maybe wrong, may be easily abused.

    In fact, every religion must command situational ethics to some extent – imagine some Christian monk travelling through hostile lands carrying some indispensable holy scripture that he knows people want to steal but he has to deliver safely into the hands of a newly converted people – would he not use guile, deception, concealment, and every subterfuge available to him in order to carry out his task?

    Life demands that higher goals dictate your behavior – not a rigid code that ignores situation.

    Nothing can succeed that way. Nothing.

    Sun Tzu wrote a great classic on war – it is one of the great religious and moral texts of the world. It counsels the use of every complicated deception and stratagem in order to avoid actual bloodshed and death.

    Is this unethical from a Christian point of view? Is this double mindedness and situational ethics?

    Now of course what corrupted Jews do is another story entirely – and there is massive corruption among Jews and always has been.

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  107. AI says:
    @AaronB

    Continue, please. Tell me who you think I am (you don’t know, do you?) and what you are.

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  108. Calm says:

    I don’t know how my post could be so misunderstood ….. I guess I am not a good writer.

    I am not into debating how many people were killed in prisons (concentration camps) in Germany. I could care less. But, without a doubt lots of rich folks were killed off. And I don’t think it had anything to do with religion, but rather that they smelled of wealth.

    I am firmly convinced that the German citizen was totally angry with anybody who enjoyed wealth and especially after the crash of ’29.

    As far as Hitler and WWII ….. Gemany was a financial threat to British hegemony and that is why WWI and WWII was carried out.

    Class Warfare was paramount across Europe.

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  109. I assume this is happening:

    https://europeansworldwide.wordpress.com/2018/06/22/radical-rabbis-shown-the-russian-door/

    Whites and Christians have to decide what kind of world they wish to live in. If they wish to live with Jews and other similar people, they have to become harsh, dishonest and tribal. If they wish for their communities, nations, cultures, and civilization to continue, to thrive, and to serve them, then they need to take control of each. At the very least, they must become harsh and tribal.

    Talk of capitalism and meritocracy is BS when the system is so obviously corrupt. Whites and Christians had the drive and intelligence to build the West, so they should be able to take it back. They just have to recognize their enemies as enemies, and treat them as such, without remorse or mercy.

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  110. @OilcanFloyd

    Jews as a people seem to skew towards socialism, though the usual ghetto burnout or Crown heights riot transforms a few into neo-cons.

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  111. Corvinus says:
    @Them Guys

    “Whats so difficult, I too want jews Gone from my nation America.”

    Except it’s not “your” nation. What about those non-Jews who have little to no issues with Jews? Do they not have a say in the matter?

    “I believe from so much research of WWII issues once we go past jewish/zios mass of lies and holyhoax scams, that Nazis main goal was to remove jewry from germany and Europe also, by Moving them to a different location.”

    No Holyhoax, no zionist lies, just a murderous regime hell bent on permanently removing Jews from this here Earth.

    “Yet like many brainwashed gentiles…”

    That seems to be the standard, but tired, argument. Everyone but you and your ilk are other than brainwashed. Somehow, tens of millions of (white) people, whom I thought had high IQ’s, have been duped by Jews and their elitist friends.

    Could it not be reasonable to assume that white people simply have made their own decisions about race and culture of their own free will? Yes or no? Why?

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  112. Corvinus says:
    @Wally

    “There is no proof for the impossibly alleged ‘extermination of 6M Jews’.”

    Yes, there is distinct proof out there, you are just too proud to admit that you are decidedly wrong.

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  113. Corvinus says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    “Whites and Christians have to decide what kind of world they wish to live in.”

    Is that not then a personal choice, one that they have the free will to go on a path different than what YOU desire?

    “If they wish to live with Jews and other similar people, they have to become harsh, dishonest and tribal.”

    According to YOU. You do realize that freedom of association means people choosing for themselves who to live with, who to marry, and how to treat people within or outside of their race, ethnic group, religion, etc., right?

    “If they wish for their communities, nations, cultures, and civilization to continue, to thrive, and to serve them, then they need to take control of each. At the very least, they must become harsh and tribal.”

    So how are YOU becoming “harsh” and “tribal”? What specific measures are YOU taking to convince people of YOUR perspective? Furthermore, are you married and have at least four white offspring? If you do not, then you lack any qualifications here to be virtue signaling your white brethren on how to live their own life.

    Talk of capitalism and meritocracy is BS when the system is so obviously corrupt. Whites and Christians had the drive and intelligence to build the West, so they should be able to take it back. They just have to recognize their enemies as enemies, and treat them as such, without remorse or mercy.

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  114. @OilcanFloyd

    The problem is the Anglo-Saxon is in sad sorry state in the US looking like Eminem, his sister a mud shark or with a kid out-of-wedlock, whacked out on Oxy or meth, barely able to graduate from a state college.

    The Flyover whites just don’t jazz me up as the best competition. Of course the East Coast Yankee elites-Trump, for example, or the Irish-Catholics or Italians-seem to have developed a great deal of the same cunning as the Jews. Perhaps through trickle-down socio-economics.

    Anglo-Celtics do have some strategic advantages. They drive the trucks, grow the food, drill the oil etc and if they cut these supplies off to the East Coast then those folks would be cannibalizing one another.

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  115. @Corvinus

    Why is this such a point of debate 70 years after the war?

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  116. Art says:
    @AaronB

    In fact, every religion must command situational ethics to some extent – imagine some Christian monk travelling through hostile lands carrying some indispensable holy scripture that he knows people want to steal but he has to deliver safely into the hands of a newly converted people – would he not use guile, deception, concealment, and every subterfuge available to him in order to carry out his task?

    Life demands that higher goals dictate your behavior – not a rigid code that ignores situation.

    Nothing can succeed that way. Nothing.

    Christianity cannot succeed – REALLY — that is totally and observably untrue.

    Clearly you have it in for Christianity – you are being irrational.

    Your hypotheticals are ridiculous. Christian philosophy is a system of ideals. Given a situation, the ideal that “life is sacred” has precedence over the ideal of “truth telling.”

    You sound more and more like a irrational sick Jesus hating Jew.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope, Love, Truth, & Idealism — Art

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  117. @Corvinus

    “Enemies as enemies”

    We’d back to colonial times when Spanish were occupying the Southwest but got their asses shot North of Florida by British troops. Essentially, the descendants of British and Spanish would end up with the territories they had in Napoleonic times. Blacks, while feral, just don’t have the capacity for organized violence (Supply chains, long-term campaigns, communications) that Anglo-Celtics do. Neither do Jews, who entered the United States as traders.

    The Hispanics would have the capacity to give the Anglo-Saxons a real run for their money in a war. The drug cartels or even the Mexican government would see profit in the Texas oil industry, for example, and fight to conquer Texas if Anglo-Saxons were at war with blacks anyhow.

    Blacks cannot run supply chains to the suburbs. They can burn down their pharmacies and KFC’s and then surrender in order for white truckers to supply food but that is the end of that. Ghetto blacks do not even have the capacity for raids on farms like South Africa.

    The Jews unlike DEATH WISH’S depiction of Jeff Goldblum as a rapist and home invader lack the cultural orientation towards organized violence. They can make a load of gang-bang films with blonde porn stars being screwed by blacks or they can make movies like BLACK PANTHER and the lower IQ whites will buy this but they cannot defeat Anglo-Saxons in an all-out war. They’ll go with the winning side.

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  118. AaronB says:
    @Art

    Christian philosophy is a system of ideals. Given a situation, the ideal that “life is sacred” has precedence over the ideal of “truth telling.”

    How is this different than Jews who say the Jewish mission of saving the world takes precedence over truth telling in some instances?

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  119. @Corvinus

    I guess we should just leave it to people like you to decide what America is, was, and will be? Sure.

    Freedom of association? A good portion of government has been dedicated to making sure that Americans don’t freely associate, and that has been the case for decades. If there were freedom of association, we’d have 1963 demographics and workplaces where diversity means a diversity of talents rather than a diversity of genders and colors.

    I don’t know what the future will bring, but if whites and Christians want a decent future they have to be at least as intellectually aggressive as people like you, and as physically aggressive as antifas and BLM types. You don’t get to decide how people react to you.

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  120. molecule says:
    @Alden

    @vera

    It’s important to understand what heroin is. Your reponse is, unfortunately, and probably through no fault of your own, a classical form of prevarication — lies by telling half truths.

    Opium is #not a painkiller like Asperin or Tylenol. Fresh raw unadultreated agricultural opium paste has a long history of curing cancers, tuberculosis, diabetes, heart disease, blindness, many ailments. How? It’s not homeopathy but it’s related. All plants, including especially, the opium poppy, have a so-called “immune system.” The label is actually a misnomer, because it fails to answer, what force builds and organizes the plant, as well as protects it.

    Crack a the stalk of a fresh leaf of organic iceberg lettuce. (Organic meaning grown without stimulants.) The plant begins to secrete a white sap. That’s the immune reponse of that plant trying to protect itself at the site of a wound. Let a head of iceberg lettuce “go to seed” and it will send up a stalk, with flower head and seed capsule behind the flower. Inflict an “insult” to the seed capsule and the immune system of the plant will secrete a white sap, to heal the wound, to protect the seed it has produced. Let the paste cook itself in intense sunlight of mountain air, and the paste turns into a soft browish “scab.” Scrape it off wtih a wooden spatula and roll it into a tiny grain sized ball, and place under the tongue. Do that every day for six months. If your immune system if weak, it will get stronger.

    For some reason, the immune response of the opium poppyis somehow closely related to the immune system of humanity. It’s an adaptogen. The immune response of the opium poppy strengthens the human immune system where it needs awakening. Conversely, it quiets it down where it’s overactive, gone runaway, and needs calming. The ancient and venerable, now the American-Rothschild, Medical Mafia does not want the general populations to know this. A weak immune system remains an unnamed disease, and use of disease for control purposes is an ancient political process.

    Heroin is a roughly a 10:1 concentrate of raw agricultural opium paste. It’s been made forever. Before Bayer had discovered practical use of Sodium hydroxide (before Bayer figured out how to control and store it safely), heroin chemists used plain old mason’s lime, Calcium hydroxide, or slaked limestone. The result, using mason’s lime, is not as concentrated as modern forms, using modern lye. But when raw opium paste is boiled in a solution of slaked lime, the alkaloid that precipitates out is no longer raw opium paste. Mason’s lime, Calcium hydroxide, has been used for centuries, to produce contentrate of opium. And to produce ancient forms of soap as well.

    Like almost all medical “products,” the concentrate of a raw simple and healthy agricultural product is a poison. Opium heals. Heroin. the concentrated alkaloid precipitate, kills.

    The idea that wounded soldiers need painkillers is a circular argument. It’s like trying to cure misogony with more misogony. Curing an existentialist problem, with more existentialism. It’s like saying men, who go off to wage war against the families of other men, when they should stay at home and offer sustenance and support for their own, need to perpetuate their stupidity by chasing after chemical dependency on heroin.

    During the American so-called “civil war” (call it whatever you like it was as fake as was the slavery issue that supposedly powered it), lines of “soldiers” in grey suits stood in open fields against lines of soldiers in blue suits, and they then proceeded to mow each other down by the hundreds, each “voluntarily” standing in front of their enemies 10″ cannons firing 1″ grape shot. There they stood, each side to be mowed down by the other by the hundred thousands — and not a single one of these apparently dim-witted men, looked over his shoulder and took cover in the line of trees, or even dense woods, that were often just 10 yards behind them. Think about that for a second. War is sometimes necessaary. But war like that is a game of initolerable stupidity.

    It was a heroin trafficking operation. By Rothschild banking. At that time, it was “the French Connection” coming out of the heroin trading bourse in Paris, Lazard Frerez. Flooding a region with heroin is the classic opening phase for a Rothschild-orchestrated regime change operaiton, where valid local traditional spontaneous and naturally organic governments are wiped out and a new regional fascist dictatorship, controlled by a brotherhood that calls itself the Pentagon, is substituted, first by corruptino, then by force. After the “civil war” (of mass stupidity off the scales it is unspeakable) there were by some accounts 400,000 new heroin addicts in the US. It was called the soldier’s disease. The precursor to our VA was the distributor. Lazard Frerez found a new outlet.

    It’s called opium if it’s the raw unadulterated agricultural product, the immune response of the poppy plant. It’s called heroin, if it’s any form of concentrated alkaloid precipitate, which can be done by any hydroxide, be it ancient mason’s lime, or modern lye.

    Some people say that because Sodium hydroxide was unmanageable before the 1870′s, therefor we know that prior populations never figured out saponification of oil, called soap. “Obviously,” they say,”Before 1870, no one could have even invented soap, because Bayer hadn’t yet discovered practical use of NaOH.” Before 1870s, soap was made with slaked lime. Before 1870s, heroin was made with slaked lime. Populations have known about and experiment with alkaloid precipitates for centuries and centuries before the 1870s.

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  121. @Jeff Stryker

    I don’t think the winning side will want them, no matter which side that turns out to be. Jewish corrosiveness is too out in the open, thanks to the media and internet.

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  122. AaronB says:
    @Art

    Christianity says we should be cunning as serpents in dealing with the world. And indeed it succeeded quite well when it practiced this.

    Truth in Christianity is transcendental – it means acknowledging God exists.

    When we became materialists, we naturally applied this transcendental ideal to the physical realm only.

    In Asia “falsehood” is woven into the very fabric of society – you are expected to be friendly and pleasant at all times no matter how you feel inside. It is pure faking. In materialist modern America, we are told go be “honest” – which leads to brutality and bad manners, and an ungracious society.

    Which is better?

    Art is also “lying” – it is depicting an idealized portrait of reality in order to connect us to higher truths.

    In materialism there is no subordinating some ideals to other ideals – there is only one dimension. It is stupid.

    This doesn’t mean you have carte blanche to lie any time or for any reason – especially self interested ones. It means you live in a complex world with multiple levels of significance and not just one dimension as materialists do and thus don’t suffer from a death like “rigidity”.

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  123. @Jeff Stryker

    I live in flyover country, and have seen how transplants from the coasts can screw things up. I’m not in awe of them at all. Left alone, we are just fine. The problem is that nobody wants to leave us alone.

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  124. Them Guys says:
    @Z-man

    When the issue is Universalism, it is related to the Spiritual sense not race or physical sense.

    its not difficult to understand that christianity accepts all who desire to become a true believer. Ergo is universal. It does not mean every christian must now be an 100% equal human racially or physically or monetarily etc…Why is it so difficult for sone folk to comprehend this fact.

    What religion don’t mandate its every professed member maintains same main beliefs?

    How same spiritual beliefs get turned into all same race? Maybe I missed something.

    Or maybe most athistic types who chime in on any religious issues of christianity have no bible knowledge or rely upon some university athiest jew new ager professors teachings as truth.

    Either way it seems odd so many that claim No God exists etc spend so much activity on what they say has no reality. Many such folks act as bad as the homo fag/dyke crowd in very angry ways whenever another person claims a god belief. Foam at mouth like rabbies anger.

    If it were Trees as the issue…and some guy stated “There is No such Tree there period…then to prove tree does not exist, takes his chain saw there to cut it down to eliminate it forever so nobody will ever again discuss the tree…is how some of these types act.

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  125. Corvinus says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    “but they cannot defeat Anglo-Saxons in an all-out war.”

    Assuming that there is a war going on right now, what are you as an Anglo-Saxon doing about it considering that our nation is being overrun by invaders?

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  126. @OilcanFloyd

    While Jews, Irish-Catholics and other bi-coastal types may pour a load of interracial porn or Hollywood crap like BLACK PANTHER down on the US interior, none of them want to live there.

    Chicago is as far West or South as they go, really.

    No matter how bad things got, the bulk of the East and West Coast will be rooted in the centers of power and money-Beltway, Hollywood, Wall Street.

    Latinos and blacks, on the other hand, will drift to any population center.

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  127. Them Guys says:
    @j2

    Sounds like KMAC makes much greater sense than compared to never ending psycho-babble-new-ager, Aaron B eh.

    If you take AaronB’s postings down to a quick easy to read explaination. It seems that all he is really saying we should believe is that.

    #1 Yes international jewry hijacked euro western whiteys nations and fed govnt’s etc and all what matters.

    #2 Yes jews are the most able to royally fuck up all of it. And have done so.

    #3 And Yes many euro whites today and for some time now, perhaps past 100 years in usa, due to a huge lust for more money and fame, have joined with corrupt jews to achieve that money and fame.

    #4 And Yes that due to hanging out with jews, joining jews as stated above in #3, have in fact Become same, or as close to same as jews as is possible,,,Like Trump is for good example of non jew that in all sense of word is same as a real jew….almost.

    #5 Which all simply means that my Mom was very correct when back as a small kid, she always pounded into my head to “Be careful Them Guys, of who you trust and hang with or do business with or marry, because many folks has an uncanny way of becoming, exactly alike with those they join with and trust etc.”

    #6 Yes one look at the many euro whites who join with jews to get it all aka fame and fortune, have indeed become as despicable as, and crooked as the very jews they answer to….See Trump again for good example. Along with aprox 99% of goys in Hollywood(few that there still are) and in Fed Govnt and all else what matters in every matter that effects everybody else.

    #7 It seems Aaron B has zero problem with it due to, getting filthy rich and or famous is and should be everybody’s main goals and screw all who get harmed along the way.

    Similar to most libertarians I ever met attitude as told to me by them…Ie: “I got Mine so screw them who don’t”……..and if this is so, it sure wont ever lead to best method to run a nation of many peoples. More like an army of folks, when enemy is at gates, instead of act as one force to repel invader force…Rather run to hide and bury all heir loot etc and hope to escape unharmed once it all blows over. Good luck with that method of think.

    Also Aaron b may not have considered it? But for some euro white folks, fame and vast $$$ from being evil and joining evil doers just so to get it all, is not the correct method to live by. This may be too difficult for a jewish person to undertand, for it sure seems almost impossible for a jew to actually subscribe to and live that way. Perhaps it is reason every country jews get hosted by ends up booting jews out eh? And now even with their own jewish nation Israel, jews prove again unable to run it right or good…Israel is as fucked up as America! with jewry running both!

    I shall stick to Moms good advice as it has worked swell for me so far.

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  128. Corvinus says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    “I guess we should just leave it to people like you to decide what America is, was, and will be? Sure.”

    It will be left up to ALL of us.

    “Freedom of association? A good portion of government has been dedicated to making sure that Americans don’t freely associate, and that has been the case for decades.”

    There has never been unfettered freedom of association. Moreover, it was Southrons who had ensured that Americans did not freely associate, as they had broken the spirit of Plessy ruling. Fortunately, civilized Southerners and Northerners–American citizens, not the government–have guaranteed that people’s fundamental freedoms are observed.

    “I don’t know what the future will bring, but if whites and Christians want a decent future…”

    Again, according to YOU. You have this notion that a “decent future” is only X, but it can be Y or Z.

    “they have to be at least as intellectually aggressive as people like you, and as physically aggressive as antifas and BLM types.”

    People like me who are Americans? Those who have chosen to take their own path?

    Praytell, since when have you been “physically aggressive” against anyone?

    “You don’t get to decide how people react to you.”

    Of course you do. It’s called free will.

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  129. @Jeff Stryker

    Much of the South is bloated with transplants from the coasts and places like Detroit. Jewish and Catholic transplants aren’t even that uncommon in small to mid-sized cities, and they aren’t bringing much more than traffic and crowding with them.

    There is a reason that my state went from a population of around 4 million thirty years ago to 8 million today. Immigration is an issue, but transplants make up the bulk of legal newcomers.

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  130. nickels says:
    @AaronB

    In fact, every religion must command situational ethics to some extent – imagine some Christian monk travelling through hostile lands carrying some indispensable holy scripture that he knows people want to steal but he has to deliver safely into the hands of a newly converted people – would he not use guile, deception, concealment, and every subterfuge available to him in order to carry out his task?

    This is very difficult material, for certain. How to live in the world, yet still be Christian.

    Funny our conversation should come to this, as I just stumbled upon exactly this dilmena in reading DeerSlayer, by JF Cooper:

    Deerslayer knew that his adversary must be employed in reloading, unless he had fled. The former proved to be the case, for the young man had no sooner placed himself behind a tree, than he caught a glimpse of the arm of the Indian, his body being concealed by an oak, in the very act of forcing the leathered bullet home. Nothing would have been easier than to spring forward, and decide the affair by a close assault on his unprepared foe; but every feeling of Deerslayer revolted at such a step, although his own life had just been attempted from a cover. He was yet unpracticed in the ruthless expedients of savage warfare, of which he knew nothing except by tradition and theory, and it struck him as unfair advantage to assail an unarmed foe. His color had heightened, his eye frowned, his lips were compressed, and all his energies were collected and ready; but, instead of advancing to fire, he dropped his rifle to the usual position of a sportsman in readiness to catch his aim, and muttered to himself, unconscious that he was speaking-

    “No, no – that may be red-skin warfare, but it’s not a Christian’s gifts. Let the miscreant charge, and then we’ll take it out like men; for the canoe he must not, and shall not have. No, no; let him have time to load, and God will take care of the right!”

    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Deerslayer/Chapter_7

    Not an easy path to negotiate, and, in fact, an interesting theme of this book.

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  131. @Corvinus

    Now we all have a say in how things work out. How nice of you! Except that’s a completely false claim. Most Americans have absolutely no say in how the government is run. Americans are against population replacement, and, if post 1964 immigrants and their descendants weren’t polled, there would be no contest at all over the national opinion.

    Again, if there were freedom of association, our borders would have never been opened, people would advance on merit alone, the government would be out of the business of destabilizing society, etc. None of that will change without a major push from those who are being harmed.

    Eventually things will get ugly if there is a continual push for the destruction of the traditional culture and demographics of the nation, if only because the invaders and their handlers are so aggressive and hostile.

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  132. AaronB says:
    @nickels

    And because its difficult, people like to come up with hard and fast rules rather than develop their judgement, moral intuition, and wisdom. Modernity seeks to make us into robots.

    Let me ask you this – if Deerslayer was protecting his wife and daughter from a fate worse than death, would he have shown such chivalry? Or if he was entrusted with high matters of state upon which the survival of his community depended? Would he even have the right to behave that way?

    In practice, did Christians behave like this? Should they? I don’t think the laws of chivalry really applied in this case – although it’s a fine ideal, and Cooper sort of missed the mark.

    BTW, I recently downloaded the Deerslayer novels for free on kindle.

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  133. AaronB says:
    @nickels

    Even so, I like to see that kind of thing in fiction because it portrays a romantic ideal – it reminds us of higher things.

    Real life demands wisdom and discernment.

    Before we became materialists and realists, fiction was understood as portraying fine ideals rather than literal depictions of life. This was understood because we weren’t one dimensional.

    To some extent that’s still true – TV still portrays a false world.

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  134. Them Guys says:
    @annamaria

    “Chosen People” created (Rabbi Moses Hess and his disciple Marx), financed (Rosenwald, Kuhn, Loeb, Schiff, et al.), propagandized (Ehrenburg, Mikhoels, Khaldei, et al.), exported (Kun, Eisner, Zimanas, Rozanski, Pijade, Rakosi, Olszewsi, et al.), and mostly ran Communism (Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Sverdlov, Litvinov, Andropov, et al.), their secret police (Beria, Yagoda, Bronstein, Yurovsky, Pauker, Slutsky, Gay, Speigelglas, Babel, Zederbaum, et al.), and gulags (the Kaganovich family, Berman, Frenkel, Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk, et al.). Though “Jews” were only 1 or 2% of the Russian population, over 30% of the general party membership and over 90% of Communist command and control were Jewish—60 million died in the USSR; if you blame Hess and Marx for Mao, add another 75 million dead.

    The synagogue of Satan is responsible, directly and indirectly, for the murder of nearly a 1/3 BILLION gentiles in the 20th century. How many will you let them kill in the 21st century?

    Copy pasted from website of….

    http://judaism.is/perpetrators.html

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  135. Josecanuc says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    “Hoffman is a marginalized but valuable scholar.”

    I did not know (and still do not know) what “marginalized” means. So I looked up synonyms for “margin”= border, boundary, periphery, fringe, narrow, confined. Is this what you mean by “marginlized” (or something else?)

    This article indicates the exact opposite to me. Do you realize how many books someone has to read and research information before he or she can write a thousand page book non fiction book on Judaism? Or “Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare”?

    Synonyms for “valuable” are “constructive helpful inestimable beneficial precious priceless worthwhile unique rare.”

    Yes he unquestionably is “valuable.” I don’t want to read his book “Judaism Discovered”because the more I discover about it the more desolate I become about the future of mankind. But I ‘m going to try and read his book about “Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare”

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  136. annamaria says:
    @molecule

    Thank you for the excellent outline

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  137. RobinG says:
    @Talha

    What is this, the poz?

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  138. Saker does some good now and again. Hoffman puts out some good info, info which is known by many he and Saker accuse of “Churchianity.” It is well known that Rabbinical Judaism is descended from Phariseeism, and that Evangelicals take their lives into their hands when they go to the parts of Israel where so called “Orthodox” Jews dominate. Jesus Christ dealt with those people when he called them members of “The Synagogue of Satan” (the letter to Smyrna, Revelation 2:9).

    Like it or not, the promise made to Abraham that God would bless those who bless him, and curse those who curse him, still applies, and crying “Churchianity” against those who recognize this fact does not impress. Yes the Israel, as currently composed as a secular state, is not where God wants her to be, but that is going to be dealt with during the time of Jacob’s Trouble when two thirds of Jews will be killed as Israel is sifted for the last time.

    The promises made to the Nation of Israel have not passed to the Church. The destiny of Israel is different than that of the Church and there are promises that were made to Israel that can only be fulfilled in Israel.

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  139. annamaria says:
    @joe webb

    “My cousin, a Moody Bible Institute fundamentalist…”
    – You badmouth Saker for being a “person of the Book” and for his alleged rejection of “Evolution, and thereby biological determinism, or genetics and evolutionary psychology.” Does your cousin recognize evolution? Or this his digression is redeemable because he belongs to a “proper” branch of Christianity?
    – Also, what do the Chinese have to do with the main topic of the interview, the pernicious effect of malicious narcissists of Talmudic persuasion on the US policies and society at large? You write, “they [Chinese] are plotting to take us over, far more dangerous than Africans, Jews…” — Let’s look at the problem at hand before making the bold predictions: http://historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=neoconservatives:
    “The list of Prominent Neoconservatives:
    Albert Wohlstetter, David Wurmser, Douglas Feith, Irving Kristol, James Woolsey, John Bolton, Laurie Mylroie, Michael Ledeen, Norman Podhoretz, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, William Kristol, Zalmay Khalilzad.”
    — Not a single Chinese name. Not a single Russian national. But a lot of Israel-firsters.

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  140. Them Guys says:
    @Calm

    I liked and enjoyed reading your entire posting. You must understand that many here, Wally especially, that have learned of the many jew holyhoax fables and massive lies of “six million” etc. In my opinion they wish to discredit as many such jewish lies as possible about WWII issues. And I too wish the same.

    It is mainly to set record straight so to speak is all. Other than a copy of said jew hoax scam lies in your posting info, the rest is superb I think. And speaks to valid proven truths, especially in how so much mass murdering was ongoing long prior to hitler even became well known of. Mass murderings ongoing within soviet Russia due to the jewish revolt against white Christians mostly.

    What is most important today is to keep awakening others to info such as your post contains, for most people never heard of what really went on in 1917 and onwards Russia and expanded to all eastern euro nations back then. And also to show others how badly they been so lied to about germany and Nazis etc.

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  141. Corvinus says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    “Most Americans have absolutely no say in how the government is run.”

    Actually, we do. We can vote, run for office, join a political party, work for a special interest group, and engage in a wide range of protests.

    “Americans are against population replacement…”

    The argument could have been made that in the 1850′s America experienced “population replacement” when hordes of Irish and Germans descended on our land, or in the late 1800′s when mass invaders from Poland and Italy came to our shores. Besides, most normies/the mushy middle simply does not view it in those terms. Must they? Why?

    “and, if post 1964 immigrants and their descendants weren’t polled, there would be no contest at all over the national opinion.”

    Do you have a source?

    “Again, if there were freedom of association, our borders would have never been opened, people would advance on merit alone, the government would be out of the business of destabilizing society, etc. None of that will change without a major push from those who are being harmed.”

    Our borders have always been opened. Look at the tens of millions of immigrants who came here in the mid and late 1800′s. To work, to play…to build.

    “Eventually things will get ugly if there is a continual push for the destruction of the traditional culture and demographics of the nation…”

    Not “traditional culture and demographics”, but original. Originally, the United States was born out of a variety of people from Europe, with imported Africans as slaves, and the displacement of natives to the hinterlands. Then, our ancestors decided for their posterity that people from different lands were welcome. In other words, the Founding Fathers enabled future generations to make those decisions for themselves.

    “if only because the invaders and their handlers are so aggressive and hostile.”

    Now, if we are truly being overrun, why are not at the front lines defending Western Civilization? Do you not owe it to your family to use whatever means necessary to repel this invasion? Or are you just an impotent, armchair warrior who desperately wants SOMEONE ELSE to take matters into their own hands, with you cheering from the sidelines?

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  142. renfro says:
    @AaronB

    ”The most important questions in life must be assumed – they cannot be questioned.”

    People once believed the world was flat….a priori
    Questioning and experience revealed the earth was round….a posteriori

    ”Ones ultimate assumptions frame ones questioning – even the validity of logic cannot be proved, but must be an a priori assumption. Hume showed this. Causality itself is an a priori assumption.”

    If Hume ever struck a match and got a chicken instead of a flame his theory on cause and effect could be taken seriously. Science and analytically have proven cause and effect.

    I have to tell you, as I have before, you have seriously confused yourself with various esoteric philosophy pickings. I believe you sincerely think that you are one of the ‘specially initiated’ to explain the world thru philosophy…but its babble really.

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  143. nickels says:
    @AaronB

    I haven’t gotten that far yet, but Deerslayer becomes Hawkeye, and I think he becomes a lot more decisive and deadly.

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  144. Them Guys says:
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus sounds like the typical jew that desires all euro whites and Christians act as only an individual in these issues and matters of choice etc…This way he and all his nefarious jew bunch can continue to halt a vast reaping of the too many woes in usa and euro white nations jews have sowed.

    Only by such “Remain only as individuals” for euro whiteys can jews feel safe. Because what jews fear most is for said whites to have a huge vast awakening of at least 1/2 or more of white people. For once enough awaken to jewdeo scams, jews fear whiteys are going to go all out Nazi on their sorry tribe. And if such ever happens, this time around, jewry wont be able to convince many others at all that it is somehow another event where as usual jews represent no more than a small group of 100% totally innocent Victims!….Thanks to internet and past 15+ years of avail info never before accessed by avg goyim folk. That scam of 100% innocents just aint gonna fly no more.

    But so far, jews never cease to antagonize whiteys and goyim folk eh. Almost as if they desire us to go all Nazi on them so to validate all their heads been filled with since a tiny baby jew. What jews should be most concerned of is if usa negro africans ever fast awaken in masses,,,they will surely go all black-Nazi-panther on jews if such happens I think. Them africans are brute savages when they go wild. But jewry thinks after a hundred years in usa of jews brainwashing negroes starting with commie jews created NAACP Org, used to turn negroes into a mass force of anti white militants….That blacks shall never awaken to jewish scams. I spent first 43 years of my life since bon in Detroit and I know better jewboys. Many blacks indeed are wide awake to jewish issues and lies.

    Just like 109 prior nations that booted jewry out. Just keep all whites concerned with every possible issue, Other than what has jews caused to create the sorry state of white nations. Of course corvy is going to deny any such truth and demand more and more proofs and explinations…That way corvy and his jew pals wont need to give whites any real honest answers eh.

    Every thing ever stated in new testament books about jewish wrongs and evils is daily well proved. Especially about how their Pharisees so twisted facts and truths into meaningless psycho babble so that nobody was able to properly discern gods actual words and commands etc…and most every jew and shabboz goy defender of jewry here, at unz, proves it in spades.

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  145. Them Guys says:
    @AaronB

    Main difference is that Christians try to fix and improve nations lesser peoples by sharing food etc and medicine and help.

    While the jewish plan they call Tikun Olem aka Jewish repair of the world…Is mainly accomplished by jews firstly, by mass use of deception/lies, getting some others to destroy and do scorched earth agendas so then jews can claim a huge worldwide need for jewish mass repair of entire world.

    And always as a key policy of jews is to get others to do jews dirty work, so jews can all the while claim to be just another small minority group of persecuted innocents, much akin to all worlds goyim who are devastated after stage one in jews repair of world agenda.

    Christians seek messed up things or peoples to fix…Jews fuck it all up first, then claim to be only ones capable of said fix job..A Huge difference.

    ps while euro whites and Christians can make many valid claims to such fixes in past eras…To date what has jewry ever done good for any others?…None. “but is it Good for jews” is their eternal and only question…direct opposites from Christianity and whites.

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  146. Corvinus says:

    “Corvinus sounds like the typical jew that desires all euro whites and Christians act as only an individual in these issues and matters of choice etc…”

    Except I’m not Jewish. I am of Polish, German, and Dutch descent. And it is not a desire, but it is a fundamental liberty for each person to choose their own path on how to live within the norms and laws of the society by which they are part of.

    “For once enough awaken to jewdeo scams, jews fear whiteys are going to go all out Nazi on their sorry tribe.”

    See, all you are doing here is talking. No action. And, thankfully, that’s all you are capable of.

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  147. Talha says:
    @RobinG

    A way to refer to the hyper-SJW wing of the ultra-liberal Left which highly prioritizes LGBTQ+ normalization in society. They are the ones who are also very intolerant of intolerance. Or, if you’ve read Voegelin, the reappearance of the gnostic cult.

    Peace.

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  148. Talha says:
    @renfro

    Science and analytically have proven cause and effect.

    That was before Copenhagen…this is what AaronB meant when he stated that Europeans have not culturally accepted Quantum Mechanics.

    “As the theory of the atom, quantum mechanics is perhaps the most successful theory in the history of science. It enables physicists, chemists, and technicians to calculate and predict the outcome of a vast number of experiments and to create new and advanced technology based on the insight into the behavior of atomic objects. But it is also a theory that challenges our imagination. It seems to violate some fundamental principles of classical physics, principles that eventually have become a part of western common sense since the rise of the modern worldview in the Renaissance. The aim of any metaphysical interpretation of quantum mechanics is to account for these violations…Bohr saw quantum mechanics as a generalization of classical physics although it violates some of the basic ontological principles on which classical physics rests. Some of these principles are:

    The principle of causality, i.e., every event, every change of a system, has a cause;
    The principle of determination, i.e., every later state of a system is uniquely determined by any earlier state;

    Apparently, we are living in a quantum world since everything is constituted by atomic and subatomic particles. Hence classical physics seems merely to be a useful approximation to a world which is quantum mechanical on all scales.”

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qm-copenhagen/

    Everything that we observe in the phenomenal world seems to behave according to deterministic causality, but everything – everything – is fundamentally composed at the quantum level which behaves (and exists) in a probabilistic manner.

    Peace.

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  149. Josecanuc says:
    @skrik

    “ [b] and what can we do about it Me: nothing – since [c] most sheople are totally unaware of the
    danger and – saddest – [d] there is no ‘effective countervailing force,’ “due to the silence [=
    acquiescence] of any possible ‘decent faction.’

    Which I think is in turn “due” to: (a) “One thing I have come to know thoroughly: the abysmal lack of character in man.” Kierkegaard
    (b) Ortega y Gasset’s Revolt of the Masses is loaded with dire apprehensions and observations on the un-predictable shallowness of the mass man’s psychology.”
    (c)‘Man is hopelessly unconscious.” Jung i.e., akin to “sheople” comatose senseless unaware and instinctively “dragged around by their noses by Nature.”
    (d) “It is the irrational (insane, delusional) on the basis of which all the rest is constructed. The moment one tries to eliminate it, it reappears in some other form. When one curbs it on one side- it simply breaks out on the other side.”’ Jacques Ellul, The New Demons
    (e) “Man is conspicuously insane. He can’t create a worm yet he creates Gods.” Heraclitus, 500 BC

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  150. AaronB says:
    @Them Guys

    Makes sense, but the content is different not the structure.

    Everyone practices situational ethics. You can’t not. The details are what make it good or bad.

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  151. renfro says:
    @AaronB

    People like vision – as long as you have only small mindededness and reasonableness, skepticism and self-interest, the majority of high quality people, to use Anatoly Karlins phrase, will be on the side of the deceiving Jew.

    We offer them big visions – mana, sweet nectar. You offer them ashes.

    Jews offer Jewish visions in which there is no ‘morality’ … what is sweet nectar to Jews, stealing, killing, parasitism ….what the Jews call their ‘self determination’ ……as acted out in Israel and the world does not appeal to high quality people, it repulses them.

    High quality people have no need to steal, kill, lie or defame in order to elevate themselves…they are confident they can succeed and live well without resort to that.

    Jews, no matter how they praise themselves , have at their core that nugget of feeling inferior to the Gentiles, Europeans, Christians ,whoever…….hence their need to ‘claim’ superiority , to constantly toot their own horn. And that nugget of inferiority will never go away because the Jews effort to overcome that feeling is to do all the unacceptable things that make people see them as undesirable and inferior, thus reinforcing their feeling of inferiority.

    You are not capable of seeing yourself thru others eyes……where you are actually the whiners…whining your vision thing, whining your superior thing……an unending centuries long effort to elevate yourselves. …..but it has never worked.
    The only success you have had has been gained by claiming ‘victimhood’ and becoming the world’s biggest beggars based on that victimhood.
    The aid of the world, mainly the US, has given the Jews the self determination and country of their own they demanded….and look at what it is…not a moral light unto the world…but a cancer.

    People don’t admire or respect you or fear you…..they are simply disgusted by you….and trying to figure a way to end your destruction in Palestine, the ME and the US without having to turn you to ashes.

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  152. Them Guys says:
    @Corvinus

    Do you really expect anyone to admit online in a forum like this as to what if anything they are doing?

    You keep harping on and asking this same type question I notice. This is also what is typical of imbeded fed fbi agents do on forums to entrap folks based on them admitting to doing some deed that may not be lawful or proper.

    Since it seems that you desire others to look up to you for wisdom on issues…Perhaps you should tell us all what you have been doing to fix things you have named such as our usa border invasions.

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  153. Them Guys says:
    @Quartermaster

    Did you miss or forget to read NT book of Galations maybe? I do believe it is in galations where Paul explains that that Abraham promise from genesis 12:3 did NOT apply to jews as the “Seed” of Abraham…Rather the word “seed” is singular and only applies to Jesus Christ in that gen verse.

    ALL 12 Israel tribes lost their covenant is also mentioned. In NT christianity there is no longer any difference between jews nor greeks nor males and females. Is mentioned too.

    in other words those jewdeo christian apostates and their apostate pastors teach a huge falsehood of jews being special chozens and that their covenant still is in effect. Of course its likely due mainly to fact that most all they ever teach is Old testament judaising apostacy. Paul also says those who follow after such judaisering preachermen are going to Lose their salvation and be unable to regain it again.

    It seems that every such NT verse as well as every NT verse which describes jews in a bad light, such as Rev 2:9 and John 8:44 etc are also always avoided like plague by jewdeo zio Christian kneejerk jew defenders and jew worshipers.

    ps Pavlov would roll in his grave if he knew his pavlov dogs had a huge litter of pavlov puppies that today number 65+ Million apostate jewdeo christian zios eh.

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  154. Josecanuc says:
    @jilles dykstra

    “The Jewish Nation stands above other nations, as the head is above the body
    The Chosen Race is a likeness of the World and Its Law is a Likeness of the Laws of the World.
    In Israel, a whole Nation Has Attained to Wisdom.
    Israel, Whose Proper Portion is the Ethereal Region, Is Victorious over its Opponents.
    All the Nations will ultimately Honor Israel’s Laws Alone.
    The Israelites are the Truest Men
    Israel means “man chosen by God.” (And ‘may God rule’)
    Josephus of Alexandria 24 AD

    “Israel delivered, Israel alive is the unmistakable sign of God’s distinctive, holy, active presence in the world. Judaism is true to the reality of human life in this world, a world whose true king is God, the Jews’ God For Jews like Halevi, Judaism is to be embraced as a way of life because it holds out a truthful way of life. Or, as Solomon Schechter succinctly stated the matter at the turn of the century, “Judaism means to convert the world.” Israel Shahak, Jewish History Jewish Religion

    Why do they desire and require control?
    Their religion specifically their covenant with YHWH compels their need for control. And they need control in order to fulfill their covenant by becoming mankind’s blessing and light, uplifting humanity and healing and curing (and inheriting or acquire) the earth. And if they quit trying to become mankind’s blessing and light they will face YHWH’s wrath. That is why they refer to their ‘covenant’ with YHWH as a “Burden & Yoke.”
    And the fulfillment of their covenant to become mankind’s blessing and light, and uplift humanity and heal and cure (and inherit) the earth is so important pivotal and momentous that
    “end’ must always justify “the means.” i.e., the “mean” things they are compelled by their covenant to do.

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  155. annamaria says:
    @Them Guys

    “Though “Jews” were only 1 or 2% of the Russian population, over 30% of the general party membership and over 90% of Communist command and control were Jewish—60 million died in the USSR.”
    – And yet the progeny of the Bolsheviks has not a scintilla of guilt for the Russain tragedy of the 20th century. Instead, they have been displaying the unabiding visceral hatred towards everything Russian. Exhibit one is the ziocons’ support for the revival of banderism (neo-Nazism) in Ukraine, which is highly insulting to Russians, considering the tremendous suffering and loss of life that Russian people experienced during the WWII.
    The immigrated “chosen” like the falsifier Alperovitch (of CrowdStrike infamy), the opportunistic Remnik (a defiler of the previously decent New Yorker) and other “Masha” Gessens expose the non-religious Talmudists for whom they are — the bloody provocateurs and born opportunists.
    The US also suffers the ideological children of Trotsky, like the psychopathic Kristols, Feith, Wolfowitz, Ledeen, Kagans, et al. Americans are going to learn the impact of Talmudist “approach” to the “non-chosen.”

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  156. Wally says:
    @Corvinus

    said:
    “Except I’m not Jewish.” LOL

    Notice the “ish”.

    IOW, Corvinus is a Jew.

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  157. peterAUS says:
    @anonymous

    You think?

    Maybe the guy is just taking a piss here. Having a bit of fun.

    At the other hand, if he is serious that points to a certain possibility.
    Certain.

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  158. AaronB says:
    @renfro

    I agree Jews are very corrupt today – and I don’t consider myself Jewish or identify with Jewish causes.

    While conversing with modern nihilistic westerners over at Karlins blog, I have merely come to be more sympathetic to Judaism and more importantly, gain a deeper understanding of why Jewish thinking sets the agenda for the West today.

    Basically, whites have outsourced their idealism to Jews, and even though secular Jews offer today a very degenerate idealism, it is literally the only idealism that exists in the West. Starving people aren’t picky.

    Renfro, if you want to fight this, you have to change white culture – as long as the commenters at Karlins blog or at say, Greg Cochran represent white culture, you will be under the Jewish boot.

    Small sub cultures of un-idealistic people will be found here and there, on this site, st Cochrane, at many others – but the overwhelming majority of mankind, particularly its more intelligent segment, will demand some kind of idealism.

    We know now that high intelligence correlates with idealism – i.e, with Leftism, and the practical, common sense, realistic, and self-interested perspective of the Right has failed to attract high quality people aside from a few minor subcultures like at Karlins blog.

    That doesn’t mean you have to resign your self to the inevitable reign of Leftism – you have to offer a better, truer, more realistic and satisfying version of what the Left is offering. Idealism, but of the true kind.

    The practical, sensible, self interested Right will never win – not now, not ever. It is merely a subculture.

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  159. AI says:
    @AaronB

    Life is sacred. Everyone’s life. Try and strugle to see the diferrence. If you do not, there will be oi-vei.

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  160. @Talha

    I’d say that it’s Jews who refuse to accept causality, and insist that the rest of us do so, as well, at least in regards to the so-called history of Jewish persecution.

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  161. Them Guys says:
    @Corvinus

    What total immigration nonsense. The 1965 immigration act changes was a totally jew run opps. Two jews in NY, one us rep, other either a us senator(?) or some well connected msm ny jew guy, of which I now cannot recall names of…They wrote, and mass promoted, with help from jew run msm newspapers and jew run tv news, that 1965 act.

    After close to three years doing promotions to get it passed into fed law, and at very end is when Sen. Ted Kennedy came into it, although one would never know that due to constant neocons like Hannity and ann coulters incessant blame on Ted kennedy alone…..it passed finally.

    American whites back then which were around 90+% total usa POP, were constantly assured such immigration changes will NOT disapate whites, will not massively change makeup of usa etc etc…ALL jewish Lies galore.

    The jew plan all along was to dis empower white voters, and displace whites in general.

    Also a book from 1912 written by a jew communist that was IIRC top commie leader in England, before he cane to live in usa, book title was, paraphrasing but Very close here is.

    “Our Racial Plans for 20th century America” by Israel Cohen, 1912, and listed in US Reps official Journal which maintains every word ever spoken officially by every us rep, and us senate has own same type senate journal. Book got officially listed in house reps journal when brought to atten of elected reps due to nature of book and Fact book writer was a admitted commie and a commie leader head honcho jew.

    In his book plans he wrote how, We aka jew commie in usa are going to promote Blacks to rise above whites, and do so mainly in Sports and Entertainment where less intelligence is required so blacks can fit in etc….at SAME time plan outlined an agenda to instill within minds of usa whites, to become filled with immense Guilt for past slavery of blacks in america, and once blacks are alowed to amass vast wealth earned thru sports etc, to also constantly promote to whites that its now okay and very desirable for white females to marry and make (Tan/Biege) babies with negroe black daddys.

    Or in Detroit layman terms/words…his jewish commie usa agenda plan to inflate negroes into vast fame and riches not based on blacks merits, but to use as Bait to convince white women to now become, Rabid Mud Sharks, and Coal Burners. Promoted as a sure certain method to rid white guilt from whites. Which will result in no whites remain at all soon, so nobody is left to stop jewish commie complete takeover and hyjacking of america, nor ever again go all nazi on jews due to their evil nefarious agendas against whites and all goyim in general. But none of the three main jew players in this crap ever antisipated the Internet and its mass ability to awaken whiteys before the plan is finished. Tic-Toc scammer jews, Tic-Toc make amrica #110 is looking very real and swell.

    Israel Cohen Praised his plans as main method to destroy whites in usa, and after the Last generation of alive whites died off, NO pure whites be left to create pure white babies again, and a real total End of all whites was in the near future of commies and jews alike.

    1912 jew commie book promotes as stated…1965 Two more dem leftist commie jews elected to high office in NY, promote and pass worst ever imigration laws possible to assist Israel Cohens books plans. Just another…jewish…Cohencidence of course eh?

    Indeed every mass imigration and illeagle imigrant problems we suffer today are a direct outcome of those jews evil nefarious agendas and plans.

    And You or nobody else can deny it as true for its all recorded in 1965 fed law act, and us reps house journal archives. The law is fact as well as the book of 1912 fact.

    I am just too lazy now to look up the two jews names who did this imigration law changes. If I later recall their names I shall post them in a new reply. Maybe others here recall names?

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  162. renfro says:
    @Talha

    ”That was before Copenhagen…this is what AaronB meant when he stated that Europeans have not culturally accepted Quantum Mechanics.
    “As the theory of the atom, quantum mechanics is perhaps the most successful theory in the history of science. It enables physicists, chemists, and technicians to calculate and predict the outcome of a vast number of experiments and to create new and advanced technology based on the insight into the behavior of atomic objects.”

    ”Bohr saw quantum mechanics as a generalization of classical physics although it violates some of the basic ontological principles on which classical physics rests. Some of these principles are:

    The principle of causality, i.e., every event, every change of a system, has a cause”

    As I understand Copenhagen quantum physics it claims ‘particles’ exist in all states at once. And that we humans are the cause for those particles to take certain shape…..iow our observing it ‘affects’ the particle and creates the shape

    Now, how the Copenhagen theory that objects take their shape only when humans ‘observe’ them fits into denial of cause and effect can only come from claiming that we cant claim cause and effect because a human is observing only one shape of the particles and cant see all the particles which exist in all states at once….therefore we cant possblty identify causes and effects.

    But the real OMG! what next!…. is that Aarron or anyone would try to use quantum physics to say Europeans failure to accept it is their downfall in competition with Jews. If he wants to do that he should show/prove that Europeans dont see or refuse to see all the possble shapes of the particles while Jews do and that is the secret to why Europeans cant defeat the ‘many shapes’ Jews use for tribal benefit .

    This really is idiotic nonsense.

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  163. renfro says:
    @AaronB

    ”….gain a deeper understanding of why Jewish thinking sets the agenda for the West today.

    Basically, whites have outsourced their idealism to Jews, and even though secular Jews offer today a very degenerate idealism, it is literally the only idealism that exists in the West. Starving people aren’t picky.”

    Jews set the agenda for three reasons— nepotism money in general as in media, Hollywood, etc., money in politics, and the political organization of the Jewish collective .

    We didnt outsource our idealism…..we ‘failed’ to guard it from pernicious influences.

    A democracy the easiest form of government and society to pervert.

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  164. Corvinus says:
    @Wally

    Jewish or Jew, I am not. But with your wild imagination, everyone who dares cross you is Jewish or a Jew. It’s really a sickness on your part.

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  165. AaronB says:
    @renfro

    A man pushed a rock that fell onto a man and killed him. Why did he die?

    Some say the rock killed him.

    Others say the man who pushed the rock.

    Still others say it was because the man who pushed the rock was depressed.

    Others say the man was depressed because his wife left him, and it can all be traced back to that.

    Your explanation is on the level of the rock killed him. Its not wrong, but it doesn’t go far enough.

    Why are Jews collective and whites, who used to be, are no longer.

    Why have Jews been able to capture the media when they have far fewer smart people than whites.

    If nepotism, why couldn’t whites stop it.

    It all goes back to one’s fundamental assumptions about reality – ones metaphysics.

    Whites decided at some point not to believe in anything not evident to the senses or demonstrable by logic – this was an a priori assumption as nothing in logic compels one to believe this.

    If I am right, that most people crave idealism of some kind, and logic cannot furnish idealism, then whites had no choice but to turn to a foreign people to give them what their own culture could no longer do.

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  166. Corvinus says:
    @Them Guys

    “What total immigration nonsense. The 1965 immigration act changes was a totally jew run opps.”

    No, it was simply American citizens who enacted reform measures. Do they not have that liberty? Why?

    “The jew plan all along was to dis empower white voters, and displace whites in general.”

    That would be Fake News on your part. Regardless, IF this phenomenon is occurring, what are you doing to stop it other than moan and groan on a blog?

    “Or in Detroit layman terms/words…his jewish commie usa agenda plan to inflate negroes into vast fame and riches not based on blacks merits, but to use as Bait to convince white women to now become, Rabid Mud Sharks, and Coal Burners.”

    The mixing of the races is a personal decision. That’s fine if you do not prefer that whites and non-whites co-mingle, but it’s really none of your business. Remember, freedom of association…

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  167. Them Guys says:
    @AaronB

    We know now that high intelligence correlates with idealism – i.e, with Leftism

    Such as all them blacks, 95% on avg. that always for past 50-60 years have voted dem lib left in every election?

    Boy since I was 10 years old in Detroit, 55+ years ago, so far those highly intelligent blacks of the left sure did a good job in fully Hiding their massive intelligence no?

    Does this mean what we thought of as simply Negro Ghetto Ebonics-speak, is really an high upper form of, Wakanda Africa Floating City of pure 24Kt. Gold, and Flying Automobiles type black speak and never was ebonics at all?

    Heres an example: Todays Detroit School Ebonics lesson…Question: What does it mean when one hears an African black say…”HoDeDo! HoDeDo!?

    Answer: Ebonic HoDeDo HoDeDo, usually is heard whenever a couple African males are running through an office type high rise building, and trying to reach the elevator before it leaves the floor they are now on….in English HoDeDo means “Hold…The…Door” (an updated version add’s “An Sheeeeit! Bitch!” at very end of, hold the door).

    Can’t you just hear that high intelligence at work with such esteemed left members?

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  168. Art says:
    @AaronB

    Christian philosophy is a system of ideals. Given a situation, the ideal that “life is sacred” has precedence over the ideal of “truth telling.”

    How is this different than Jews who say the Jewish mission of saving the world takes precedence over truth telling in some instances?

    If the Jews you are talking about – are Zionists (85% are) – then there is going to be NO “saving the world.”

    Self worship and pride do not make things better – period.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope, Love, Truth, & Idealism — Art

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  169. Corvinus says:
    @Them Guys

    “Do you really expect anyone to admit online in a forum like this as to what if anything they are doing?”

    If you a man of action, you could couch your conduct in a way to make it known that you are engaging in worthy conduct. But, again, we all know you lack that intestinal fortitude. You just want to moan and groan on a blog. Thankfully, you just do not have it in you to do anything that would demonstrate manliness on the matter. Rather, you hope someone else does your dirty work.

    “This is also what is typical of imbeded fed fbi agents do on forums to entrap folks based on them admitting to doing some deed that may not be lawful or proper.”

    Except I’m not an FBI agent and you are not being monitored. Sounds like you are way too paranoid.

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  170. AaronB says:
    @Them Guys

    I’m sorry my friend, but it is a fact that most educated and intelligent people skew Left.

    Lets try and understand why – the Left offers idealism and utopianism. The Right offers hard headed practicality and self-interest.

    It is clear which has won the battle of ideas. There can no longer be any doubt.

    As a foe of the Left, in my view the intelligent thing to do if we are to defeat the Left is understand why it won and offer people something like it but much more real and much better.

    But putting your head in the sand won’t do.

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  171. Them Guys says:
    @renfro

    renfro, I think I get it now…I can go into my garage, gander at my corvette car, and “See” in it a new Ferrari car, then whalla it becomes an actual real F-150 Pick Up truck!!

    Soon as I see mature apples on my back yard tree, I am going to “See and Think” an apple into a nice huge buck deer so I can fill my meat freezer and eat tasty back strap of venison. It should work swell, since every year several deer come to eat said apples in yard. This is a lot like Oprah’s tv shows where her featured guest Expert tells viewers that they can make use of biblical Christianity to “See what they most desire, and lay hands on it or an example like it, say a new car, and Think it into your driveway by next week at Latest!….I never watched Oprahs show, but have read about her experts See-Think-Have it Free plan.

    Better than 78-D trump chess even.

    PS: What if Two or More humans see the very same particle at same time, and each human sees it as something different? Will that particle then become two or more distinct seperate and uniquely different objects?….Or will each human get a migrane head ache and entire particle simply disappears during a more than one human per particle event?

    You could use quantum physics when confronted by a traffic cop angry at you for giving him the middle FU finger. Just tell traffic cop its a quantum physics event and what cop really saw was a photo of his white daughter with her black boy friend….It may work to avoid a traffic ticket.

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  172. AaronB says:
    @Them Guys

    You almost have it. It is not merely a question of your will. You cannot merely conjure up a Ferrari.

    But your car, as revealed by your senses, is real, but also not the stable and enduring entity it seems. It is actually merely a force field that merges into the larger force field of the universe, and thus not real as it appears to you, a distinct, stable, separate, entity. Moreover, your act of perception partially creates the car, so in a sense you did conjure it up, although not by any law that you can control or understand.

    This means you and the car are actually an indivisible unit, and not the distinct entities you think you are. Which means you don’t stand over and above the world, but are part of it.

    Which means the modern sense of alienation – of man being separate from the world and standing over and above it – is based on false epistemology.

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  173. Them Guys says:
    @AaronB

    Aaron, heres how jews captured every msm media…1st jews swindled and bribed corrupt Polititions to gain jew control of banking and money back in 1913 with fraudulent fed res act scam.

    Then about a dozen years later, once massive amounts of free unearned cash was amassed by jewish banksters, from newly required usury-intrest and fed taxes to jews. They used that free cash to bribe and buy up every major important newspaper in America. Those unwilling to sell out paper, were bribed to let jews place their own tribe member in as new editors and writer/reporters.

    To get ownership or editorial controls of newspaper that owner rejected every bribe offer, jews bought up Ink and paper mills so to withhold sales and delivery of ink and paper necessary to run/print newspaper with. Plus jewry corp and buis owners conspired to cancel all ad’s in defiant papers until near bankrupted and will agree to accept bribe etc.

    Next, same or fellow tribe jews got control of Radio stations once radio was soon after invented.

    Then soon after radio was reality, same methods used to get control of TV aka Talmudvision the electronic rabbi.

    Then with all central controls of two main things necessary for aspiring Pol’s to get elected, which are Cash and Lots of it, Plus Positive good media reports of how great and swell a politition is or will be if elected. Jews gained full control of most every Pol and elected official.

    Then for past 70 or so years they used all that to rip off America blind and cause endless wars and every possible thing they could conjure up in order to destroy America and all what matters.

    Just because someone can figure a way to take advantage of others don’t make it a good thing to do. But that’s a white man way to think and believe…jews being self chozens and self and money worshipers violate all standards to achieve money and always lust for more.

    Which always ends in an OyVey! Event at some point.

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  174. Them Guys says:
    @AaronB

    Most educated within past 40 years or so have gone to universities and gotten royally Marxist brainwashed and you confuse that for intelligent types. Masters and PHD’s in everything But, a J.O.B.

    Major degrees in African lezbo underwater basket weaving. Black studies. Queer Fag dyke studies. and so on. Professors keep re inventing selves and types of new studies they can offer a degree in.

    And it all revolves around Frankfurt school jewdo Marxist concepts and agendas. So of course such idiots go hard leftist. While many of best and most intelligent folks are those who realized long ago what was going on or highly suspected it, and simply quit school and became self taught and successful business owners. Most smart buis owners and self made types vote repub it seems.

    Of course now it matters little to none if they vote repubs or dems as all answer to AIPAC jewry and state of Israel. Any that refuse like Cynthia McKinny us rep black lady, get unelected very next election cycle via massive every msm tv news spews that shes now a jew hater and anti-Semite hate monger Nazi.

    The fact of such massive jew controls aint even hidden by jewry any longer and yet we still see many that refuse to admit to this fact. No matter what. They insist on defending corrupt jews and making tons of excuses for same. And most I suspect are of the little guys or middle class folks that never really profit from their defense of jewry. They too are bigly brainwashed I rekon.

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  175. Them Guys says:
    @AaronB

    It all sounds like a combo of jewish kabala satanic black majik, mixed with a huge dose of psycho mambo jahambo eastern guru nonsense. Cars are made at car factories by human and robotic assembly etc. All of your psycho mambo jahambo spin speak aside it is wishful nonsense at best.

    Kinda like Pharisee twisting words and word meanings like many leftist fed judges do to circumvent orig us const into whatever the leftist commies desire it to mean at any given moment. Antigun clownery is a good example I think. They know we pro gun folks are 100% correct. Yet they never stop attacking us and the 2nd amendt as if repeating their same fails will somehow end up in a new different outcome this time.

    All I can tell you is I fully totally disagree with you on this mambo jahambo speak new ager stuff and until you Can conjure up something as you claim I will remain unconvinced. I have zero need for hindu voodoo or American injun medican man witch Dr. craftolas etc. Maybe when an injun medicine man spends 4 days straight without food or sleep, smokes tons peyote, and sits cross legged while he stares intently at the camp fires smoke wafting from the fire below, he will likely think he saw or sees a huge image of a grey or white wolf float upwards from fires smoke cloud?

    But then again most all folks can do so if they copy medicine mans high tech methods of zero eat or sleep and remain stoned for four days straight. I once when in my youthful era took some pharmaceutical real meth speed…Stayed wide awake three days straight, took my Harley for a night ride and I to this day swear I had to slam on brakes when I saw a small dog run across my path so to not collide with dog….But in reality there was NO dog there at all…It must have been that speed pill and zero sleep three days eh. Real is real and mambo jahambo aint it Aaron.

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  176. Art says:
    @AaronB

    We (Jews) offer them big visions – mana, sweet nectar. You offer them ashes.

    We offer the prospect of peace through idealism. Your mana is coercion and darkness.

    We can see what Zionist Jews (85% of jews) offer – see the Palestinians and Gaza – see congress – see government debt – see our monolithic media.

    Your tribal self-worship – your pride – is blinding you.

    Your lies have cowered people for many years – but they are now failing – and the new lies are not working.

    Jesus said “the truth will set you free” – go for it Jew – save yourself.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm – Maintain Hope, Love, truth, & Idealism — Art

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  177. @OilcanFloyd

    From Detroit, yes. I am from Detroit and those who can leave will go anywhere.

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  178. @Them Guys

    VOTING REPUB

    What the college system attempted to do was to level the playing field. I was in university from 1992-1998 and at that time it was still Republican.

    As for business types who vote Republican, this would make sense. They are more likely to live in a nice neighborhood, they don’t want it overrun with black crackheads on vouchers that bring down the property values or MS-13.

    Most Republicans are law and order-you’re probably too young to remember the Willie Horton ads of the 1988 campaign.

    Finally, more Republicans are white. However, the problems with Latino immigration/crime have driven middle-class blacks to vote Republican themselves.

    So all this makes sense.

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  179. AaronB says:
    @Art

    Maybe you are offering them peace through idealism, but white culture as a whole isn’t. Its offering them dry logic to choke on.

    That’s the problem.

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  180. Wally says:
    @Corvinus

    You ‘protest too much’. LOL

    Now please give us your proof for the alleged ’6M Jews & gas chambers’.

    everyone see:

    Juergen Graf : The Fate of Unregistered Auschwitz Inmates

    http://www.codoh.com

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  181. Wally says:
    @Corvinus

    The fact remains that Jews support strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while demanding massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  182. renfro says:
    @AaronB

    ” If nepotism, why couldn’t whites stop it”’

    All the questions about whites that you don’t understand.

    Did you know that you can walk near a well fed tiger or lion and 9xs out of 10 they wont bother you.
    OTOH, if you trespass their territory when they are hungry or have cubs to protect they will 10xs out of 10 attack you.

    The tigers aren’t quit hungry enough yet.

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  183. renfro says:
    @Them Guys

    LOL…..you got it.

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  184. gsjackson says:
    @Z-man

    He’s devout Russian Orthodox, as anyone even remotely familiar with his writing knows.

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  185. gsjackson says:
    @AaronB

    Idealism of any sort seems to be precisely what Jewish control of government and the culture has destroyed. How can you even think of reform when government is a completely locked-down oligarchy busily transferring all wealth up to the tippy top?

    How can you contemplate any sort of cultural ideal when culture is continuously diluted by “diversity,” and the public discourse is an endless attempt to “define deviancy down?”

    How can you think about peace in a political culture that is all war all the time?

    What hope for truth in a society built almost entirely on lies?

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  186. @AaronB

    Quantum physics has not been accepted culturally by Europeans – Europeans are stuck in the metaphysics of 18th century materialism and Newtonian physics.

    People don’t believe there are Chocolate Quarks in the Muons?

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  187. @Corvinus
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  188. Corvinus says:
    @Wally

    The fact remains that America was built on immigration, and the United States is not Israel.

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  189. I have heard the rumor about the Nazis and until I see the documentation, I don’t believe it.

    .

    This Day in Jewish History / Nazis Declare: Karaites Are Not Racially Jewish

    On January 5, 1939, the Reich Office for Genealogical Research issued a written opinion stating that it did not view the Karaite community as being racially connected to the Jews.

    As a consequence, most of the approximately 7,000 Karaites living in those parts of the Soviet Union occupied by Germany were spared annihilation

    January 5: Karaites and the Nazis
    The Nazis decreed Germany’s Russian/Polish Karaite sect to be exempt from the Nuremberg Racial Laws on this date in 1939.

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  190. @Them Guys

    I’ve read Galatians many times, and it does not say what you claim. If it did, then he would be contradicting himself give what he wrote in Romans 9-11. The other problem you have is God’s own statements in the Old testament about Israel and her eternal destiny. There are promises that were mad to Israel that have not been fulfilled, and can not be fulfilled by the Church given the way they are written.

    Jesus often spoke poorly of the Jews. If you look to the context of those statements you will find that he was talking about the religious leaders, the same lot we have to endure now still calling themselves “Jews.” John 8:44-47 still applies to so called “Jews” today.

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  191. Them Guys says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    I recall it but not very well now, that willie Horton issue. I am 65 years old, born and raised and spent 43 years in Detroit. Then got fed up enough to finally move. Moved to lower penn up north 200 miles north of monkey ghetto town aka Detroit. I remember back when first black family moved in on my street. It was late spring time, and by end of summer, the home they bought and lived in looked like a war zone hit it. Took less than 6 months for them blacks to fully wreck and ruin their house and our formerly all whitey neighborhood.

    I was 10 years old then. Was uncertain at first what all the adults talk was about when basic panic set in due to invader blacks. Soon as blacks came, most every home had for sale signs on lawns.

    I vividly recall Uncle Eddie and Joey trying to get rest of family and neighbors to see the proverbial light on negro neighbor issues. But most folks then were dem voters, even though I barely knew about politics then. But I instantly understood my two uncles warnings. And they were proved correct in short time.

    Most adults I over heard talk from, kept insisting “Maybe if we just go ahead, and give them coloreds what they demand, maybe the coloreds will Finally leave us alone and everything will work out okay”…..WRONG!!… My Uncles kept insisting “You idiots are wrong, give in and meet demands of coloreds and they will raise stakes and keep demanding MORE! MORE! it never will end”

    Here’s what I distinctly remember all the coloreds rage was about. They demanded full political control of Detroit….Ground Zero….In the never ending saga of African destructions of every major, and now mid to small sized city.

    This is close to exact words I recall hearing:…”All Wez be Axin Fo Iz dat chanze ta proobs it!…Das all wez bez awantin from dem white folk majority…Jez gibs us dat chance is alllz wez be Axin Fo! Da chance ta proobs we colored folk kin runz Deeeeetroit Mo Betta den dat whitey folk do!”

    Indeed that’s all Dey Bez Axin Fo is chance to prove aka Proobs it is all. Well stupid lib dems gave em it and looky what resulted since…..Today and for a long time now every fuckin usa city is a huge African mess. Most sane whiteys moved as far away as possible…Then colored blame whites for white flight loss of property taxes, well no shit sherlock eh…What properties? The properties ruined due to African invasions? Sky rocket tax increases to welfare feed, starving female black baby factories, with their Six Feet Wide starved ass? Yeah yez blams whitey crackahs folk eh.

    I am amazed that even today one can still meet whites that never really had close Coontact with the Suspooks. Them type whites cannot comprehend what life among a passel of African savages is like I guess….I sure know it well. I gave up trying to wise up such fool whiteys..Wait till blonde daughter, is found dead in a Detroit ally, and sonny boy becomes a junky with three beige tan chillins and his darkie girlfriend to meet his whitey parents!..Kinz I callz You Dad?

    Now, when I hear any idiot whitey begin his or her talk with words such as “But But But gee maybe we whiteys just never did enough for poor poor coloreds? Maybe More $$$$ spent is an answer?”

    Them type never accept a real solid correct answer, and always end up calling guys like me a vile racist and or anti-Semite Nazi….So I say fuck em all at this late point. They will learn the hard way and too bad for their stupid asses eh. I cannot trust such fools so I avoid them like a plague, same as negroes, avoid like a cursed plague. I do not mean act mean or nasty etc…Just simply avoid as if my life depends on it….Because most times…it Does!

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  192. Them Guys says:
    @Corvinus

    So what, Which country was Not started and built by and with immigrants..At FIRST? Every nation was idiot. But once vast majority are Native Born’s, like usa now is, it matters none any longer.

    Stop falling for that stupid poem plaque on statue of liberty…You know, it states “Give me them po po poor, them very deathly sick, diseased with god alone knows what, and especially those with NO husband and yet have at least 15 chillins and All are very hungry for free food and housings, while you are at it, be sure to send us every mental case nut and felony prisoner after you empty out every head case inst, and every major prison complex of its ‘residents” so we in usa can fill our nation with the absolute worst possible new comers!” By: Emma kommiejew whacko, 1920-30′s or so.

    You are aware that that stupid propaganda poem was wrote by some jewish Russian or Polish Commie bitch, and her being a jew commie is likely reason her poem was chosen eh.

    And You Fell for it too!! Pretty ignorant stupid for so smart a guy no?

    PS Look Up names and Bio’s of those Two main jews that did 1965 changed immigrant act fed laws….I am 100% correct all I prior wrote, of which You refuse to deal with and pass by all important facts I stated, then reply with yet more denial of truth mamby pamby jew speak..

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  193. Them Guys says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    racially connected to the Jews…..Hmmmm…Askanazi jew racial makeup= Hunn+Mongrol+Turkic+ Caucasian= Esaus edomites posed as Fake jews. aka Khazars. That mass converted to Talmudic Judaism around, 745 A.D era….Then shortly afterwards got asses kicked royally by real Russians and head leader Russian, Rus the Viking guy, then, badly whipped khazar fake jews invaded/infiltrated as many other western euro nations as able to Hide within posed as…Euro Whiteys! Oy Vey!

    Now in America so…Beware and Look out whiteys, never give up your firearms unless you desire same fate as 1917 Russians and eastern euro peoples who learned the hard way, what scorched earth & and mass murders fanatical jewrys cpable of.

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  194. Them Guys says:
    @Quartermaster

    You obviously believe what pastor hagee types preach on jews. I wrote I was not certain which NT book its in…but its in there, and specifically states that the very OT verse in Genesis, most rabidly jew firster apostates quote when they bible thump it as truth of, we must place jew above all others etc..Known of as “we Must bless them jews as it says in Gen 12:3″ Wrong.

    Paul the writer specifies and makes plain as day that that very OT gen verse did NOT apply to Seed’s as in Many but rather its written as “SEED” Singular Not Plural as “seed’s” and the meaning applies to ONLY Jesus Christ as the Future planned great Blessing as promised. A Blessing of salvation for all who desire it…But not until Long into Future from Abraham days when verse said to be said.

    Paul specifically states the word “SEED” did NOT mean or apply to Jews and does NOT command folks to “bless them jews”….in entire bible no such bless jews is stated. The very word of “Jew” is Not even found until almost 500 Pages After Page One Genesis aka “In the Beginning” etc etc.

    So what? Did Old Abe and Moses and Issac and Jacob et al all just forgot to mention they was a jew?

    No…Didn’t forget, because none of those early OT guys was a jew. You need do deep research of several times word jew was, first invented and used, plus several times word jew changed actual meaning of.

    Of the too many falsehoods apostate pastors aka Judaizers, falsely teach to list here, a couple Top falsehoods taught by them is…#1 Jesus was a jew! and #2 every where in the bible you can find the word of “Israel” it can always be switched out for word of “Jew” since Both words means 100% same! another huge falsehood taught is that jews retain the orig frist covenant, which in many places biblically, especially Jeramiahs book, it explains they LOST that covenant and it got Replaced with and by the New testement, new Covenant of Christianity. Apostate fraud pastors claim/teach, “Oh thats replacement theology folks do not believe it”…..NO it really means as bible states it, a New Covenant that replaced the old one. In Jeramiah it states Gods so fed up finally with Southern kingdom of judah aka jews, (the 10 northern tribes who Kept name of “Israel” and always called by name Israel etc were long gone as they got cursed and punished first before south judah kingdom, and to This Day, both remain as a seperate entity and nation. Two distinct seperate grouped nations. and Only the lost ten tribes has right to name of Israel thats in your bible too look it up).

    Was so fed up god told Jeramiah, “go tell Your people of judah kingdom that I NO longer recognize them as my chosen peolple, and it is all On Them for causeing it for I the Lord Have kept every word of My part of covenant…They judah Failed once to many times and are No longer my chosen peoples etc etc. But He gave them last chance so to speak, if they accept Christ etc can still get saved. yet 2000 years later they still reject Christ eh…Stiff Necked stubborns eh.

    Jesus was a Nazareen (sp?) and an Israelite and a Judahite…But never a jew.

    by time of his birth, most all of edomites had been captured by jews and forced to covert to Talmudic judasim aka phariseism. Even jews own KING Herrod was an edomite! as was his dad when king prior.

    And NO the word Israel is not interchangeable nor means exact same as word of “jew”.

    Further more some of best solid proof avail one would think comes direct from jews eh? Like perhaps This statement from the jewish wrote, for jewry, about jewry and not about much if anything but jews….Jewish Almanac.

    Under the heading of “A brief History of the Terms for Jew” in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following: “Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.”
    — 1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3 (the writer is obliquely referring to the true history of the Eastern European Ashkenazim, or Khazars).

    What do You not as Yet Get eh?

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  195. Wally says:
    @Corvinus

    the hasbarist said:

    “The fact remains that America was built on immigration, and the United States is not Israel.”

    Excuse me.
    Then how did all those Jews get into ‘Israel’? Immigration.

    Yes, immigration brought people to the US, but it doesn’t follow that we must continue that path. The boat is full and the recent immigrants are not the same as the earlier immigrants in the least. Earlier immigrants brought skills and a strong work ethic from Europe.

    There were no freebies for the earlier immigrants, they had to work or starve. Not the case now. And that is why they come. They are essentially unemployable, low IQ breeders who will contribute nothing and take everything.

    You argument is not logical and also ignores the fact that the US population has doubled since 1960 because of immigration. This suicide mission must stop.

    The fact remains that Jews support strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while demanding massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  197. @Corvinus

    You are partially right. America is not Israel. Otherwise, America was built by colonists and settlers. Immigrants came later, when everything was established and settled. Post 65 immigrants were not needed for the most part, and have largely served the purpose of providing cheap labor, and demographic change and votes for the left.

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  198. Corvinus says:
    @Them Guys

    “But once vast majority are Native Born’s, like usa now is, it matters none any longer.”

    Native borns, which include Kenyans, Guatamalans, and Chinese. And, remember, the Irish, Germans, Poles, Slavs, and Italians were also not considered “native borns”, yet they are here.

    “Stop falling for that stupid poem plaque on statue of liberty…”

    It’s not about falling for anything, it’s about remembering how our ancestors arrived here and built our nation.

    “You are aware that that stupid propaganda poem was wrote by some jewish Russian or Polish Commie bitch, and her being a jew commie is likely reason her poem was chosen eh.”

    You have a Jew fetish. It is tragic.

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  199. Corvinus says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    “Otherwise, America was built by colonists and settlers.”

    Who emigrated here from a foreign land.

    “Post 65 immigrants were not needed for the most part…”

    Maybe, or maybe not.

    “have largely served the purpose of providing cheap labor…”

    Do not businesses have the liberty to hire who they want in our capitalistic society, provided the workers are legal?

    “and demographic change and votes for the left.”

    Demographic change is a feature, not a bug, of the American experience. And as far as votes for the left, is it not up to the individual to decide who to support?

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  200. Corvinus says:
    @Wally

    “Yes, immigration brought people to the US, but it doesn’t follow that we must continue that path.”

    I agree. Limit immigration. Bust companies that employ illegals. Except both the Democrats and Republicans use the issue for their own political purposes, rather than make some effort at reform.

    “The boat is full and the recent immigrants are not the same as the earlier immigrants in the least.”

    That is exactly what nativists said about Eastern and Southern Europeans.

    “Earlier immigrants brought skills and a strong work ethic from Europe.”

    As do a majority of today’s immigrants. You do realize, though, that nativists thought differently, that certain groups from Europe lacked the abilities to immerse themselves into our ways of life.

    “There were no freebies for the earlier immigrants, they had to work or starve.”

    Actually, if you read your history, political bosses used immigrants for their votes, and factory owners used them for their work. In other words, there were gimmedats and free stuff even back then.

    “They are essentially unemployable, low IQ breeders who will contribute nothing and take everything.”

    That would be Fake News.

    “The fact remains that Jews support strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while demanding massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.”

    Israel is not the United States, and the United States is not Israel. You Jew fetish is noted.

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  201. Robjil says:

    Bret Stephens, a Zionist NYT columnist loves immigrants for the US and wars for Israel. He even “won” a Pulitzer Prize for his insanity. This insanity can not go on forever. Something has to give.

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  202. @Z-man

    He’s not anonymous. He’s readily identifiable as Andrei Raevsky, born to a Russian father and Dutch mother, born and raised in Switzerland, further education in the USA, then back to Switzerland.

    http://thesaker.is/submarines-in-the-desert-as-my-deepest-gratitude-to-you/

    Keep up the great work, Andrei.

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  203. @AaronB

    Most so-called “Jews” are not genetically separate from “whites” in the way that you seem to think. There’s a 2013 article about a genetic study from Genetic Literacy Project showing that Ashkenazi “Jews” are typically FORTY PERCENT ITALIAN through their maternal line. Only the paternal genetic lines are predominately Middle Eastern / Semitic.

    https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2013/10/08/ashkenazi-jewish-women-descended-mostly-from-italian-converts-new-study-asserts/

    Then add the Germanic or Slavic genes that so many Ashkenazim have, and it’s easy to ascertain that typical Ashkenazi “Jews” are likely about half white European.

    This does not apply, of course, to the minority of Jews who are Sepphardim.

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  204. @Corvinus

    Demographic change is not a feature of America. As a matter of fact, Americans were assured prior to 1965 that immigration would not alter the demographics or culture of the nation. You are completely dishonest if you say otherwise.

    As for the right to use immigration to cheapen labor, that’s also BS, and it’s especially BS when it’s done illegally. Again, you are completely dishonest and show contempt for the vast majority of actual Americans who are affected.

    There is also no right to use immigration for votes and political change that the natives are unwilling to assent to. To say otherwise just shows contempt for actual Americans.

    There is no comparison between the people who founded, colonized, settled, and built the nation, and the people who have immigrated after 1965, and some of the earlier waves, especially since the “immigrants” are brought here with the sole intent of destroying the nation.

    People like me wish to preserve the nation, and people like you wish to destroy it. That’s the argument in a nutshell. Of course there will be resistance.

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  205. Art says:
    @AaronB

    Jews set the agenda and punch far above their weight because they have better pre-modern metaphysics than you

    There are no bounds to Jew self-worship.

    What a load of intellectual crap — Jew dishonesty, lying, and greed is called “pre-modern metaphysics.”

    Jews win by holding onto old mendacious tribal ways — ways no longer acceptable to modern people.

    Jews pretend to be Western – but practice an old world coercive tribalism.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope, Love, Truth,& Idealism — Art

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  206. Corvinus says:
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    “Demographic change is not a feature of America.”

    Actually, it is.

    “As a matter of fact, Americans were assured prior to 1965 that immigration would not alter the demographics or culture of the nation.”

    The 1921 formula was designed to favor Western and Northern European countries and drastically limit admission of immigrants from Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and Southern and Eastern Europe. But, citizens are allowed to change their minds and go with the times. Hence, the quotas were dropped. And, with any laws, there are unintended consequences. A group of influential conservative congressmen won a last-minute concession to prioritize admission of immigrants with family members already in the United States, believing it would better preserve the country’s predominantly Anglo-Saxon, European base. In the following years, however, demand from Europeans to immigrate to the United States fell flat while interest from non-European countries—many emerging from the end of colonial rule—began to grow. New and well-educated immigrants from diverse countries in Asia and Latin America established themselves in the United States and became the foothold for subsequent immigration by their family networks.

    “As for the right to use immigration to cheapen labor, that’s also BS, and it’s especially BS when it’s done illegally.”

    No, business owners want to make money. So they hire people; in some cases, these workers are illegal aliens. If they hire legal immigrants, do not the companies have the liberty to make that decision? Do they not have the economic freedom to maximize their profits?

    “There is also no right to use immigration for votes and political change that the natives are unwilling to assent to. To say otherwise just shows contempt for actual Americans.”

    Except the immigrants will become “actual Americans”, and there is every liberty for politicians–left or right–to convince people, newcomers or citizens, to vote for their agenda.

    “There is no comparison between the people who founded, colonized, settled, and built the nation, and the people who have immigrated after 1965, and some of the earlier waves, especially since the “immigrants” are brought here with the sole intent of destroying the nation.”

    Actually, there is a comparison. Tens of millions of people who have come here, regardless of their background, work hard, are law-abiding, and have helped to build up our nation. Of course, there will always be people from different lands who are degenerates. Somehow, someway, we need a tougher vetting process.

    “People like me wish to preserve the nation, and people like you wish to destroy it.”

    Actually, we all want to preserve the nation. It’s a matter of the process.

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  207. Talha says:
    @renfro

    therefore we cant possblty identify causes and effects.

    That’s the gist of it. I read a nice paper a while back by a chemistry professor, Karen Harding, who compared the conclusions of the Copenhagen theorem to some of the conclusions of medieval theologians. Very interesting article.

    In it she talked about scale since the quantum theory must necessarily scale for the bigger picture; that sure a ball left sitting on the table could continue to remain there, but the theory posits that it can also exist at any other spot based solely on probability and observation, likewise the ability to walk through a wall – if the electrons in that wall were behaving a certain way (highly improbable, but definitely possible – just a numbers game).

    This is not even getting into the observer themselves, composed of quantum particles subject to the theory which presents an interesting case of infinite regress.

    You are missing the forest for the trees. The theory posits that the ground of being itself is in multiple layers. As she explained, the ‘object’ seems not to have an independent existence apart from an observer’s interaction with it. So strange…it has a contingent existence and the whole universe is seemingly contingently existent. There is an implication of a level of reality and then a further level of Reality that truly exists independently and which gives the contingent layer its existence.

    What AaronB is getting at is that (he can correct me if I’m wrong); those who are still playing at the lower level of existence will be trumped by those playing at the higher level of existence – it is a metaphysical issue.

    A people must feel that they are aligned with something huge, grand – way beyond themselves. Something that gives them hope, something that gives them conviction – these in turn help with survival.

    What does dealing purely at the material level do? Well, you are just an alignment of molecules and when you die, you will just be reshuffled molecules, survived (if you will) by other molecular arrangements that were partially coded from you – on so on. If the pages of history turn over on you, so what? All this gets rolled up eventually in heat-death anyway so what’s the point?

    Europeans dont see or refuse to see all the possble shapes of the particles while Jews do

    Again, missing the big picture. It’s not about shapes of particles, it’s about implications of the nature of the cosmos, and purpose-driven existence. Materialism offers no purpose which is why those who choose this route are willingly erasing themselves from existence.

    And frankly, this is not really an issue for debate (only for clarification) because it boils down to one’s proclivities, it’s a bit like what color appeals to one or one’s favorite fruit, totally subjective*. Anyone can read into what the theory states. It’s quite successful theory and has definitely allowed us to make use of it to create things. There don’t seem to be too many dissidents either – maybe someone will be able to trump it with a better one – that’s always possible. For now, there is a reintroduction to a sense of magic and wonder into the universe:

    Those who see this as hopeful will interpret it as such, those who don’t will interpret it otherwise.

    Peace.

    *And frankly, if the materialist is right, then that is not a choice one makes since that is predetermined by one’s genetic makeup; it’s a simply a result of an algorithm that takes in certain inputs and processes them along the only way it can.

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  208. Art says:
    @Corvinus

    You have a Jew fetish. It is tragic.

    (Oh my’ — classic hasbara 101 – if you do not like Jews you are crazy.)

    Get with it people – you little non-Jews are so funny.

    You are supposed to worship the Jew — he does – he is god’s chosen.

    Do not fret little folks – when a Jew lies, assassinates, divides, and sucks-up economic life – he is making the world better for humanity.

    Ask him!

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

    p.s. How ridiculous – you can be assured that the god of the universe does not favor the coercive Jew tribe. He is a BS artist con man.

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  209. Art says:
    @Talha

    A people must feel that they are aligned with something huge, grand – way beyond themselves. Something that gives them hope, something that gives them conviction – these in turn help with survival.

    Group identity is a false hope. Stability comes about only from strong local connections. Volitional ongoing mutual exchanges, between different people with different assets, builds long lasting benefits for each individual.

    The center of life is the individual not the group. Atoms and molecules are natural individuals that find a path to making local connections to each other. They are not held together by outside forces. Humans can only mimic nature. Stability is built from the center out – not impressed and forced from the outside, as tribalism does.

    Christianity recognizes the individual as the center of rational existence. Its philosophy prescribes a set of ideals that fosters these ongoing beneficial local exchanges between people.

    Think Peace — Do No harm — Art

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  210. AaronB says:
    @Talha

    What AaronB is getting at is that (he can correct me if I’m wrong); those who are still playing at the lower level of existence will be trumped by those playing at the higher level of existence – it is a metaphysical issue.

    Very well put.

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  211. Z-man says:
    @gsjackson

    Thank you as I’m beyond remote. (Grin)

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  212. Z-man says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Thanks again, I was unaware of his human background. (Wry grin)

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  213. renfro says:
    @Talha

    You are missing the forest for the trees.

    No , I see it all.

    What we have here is a ‘would be oracle’, Aaron, who wants to engage us in philosophical and quantum physics discussions related to Jews vr Europeans to show us Jews use quantum physics thinking and ‘materialistic ‘ Europeans don’t and therefore Europeans cannot come up with the lofty inspiring visions the Jews offer to the world or people and that is why Europeans are losing out.

    Anyone can read into what the theory states. It’s quite successful theory and has definitely allowed us to make use of it to create things.

    Ah yes, its great! …What have you created with it?

    Look , using it in the context Aaaron is using it is basically just mental masturbation.

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  214. renfro says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Report finds Ashkinazi Jews descended from Turks

    http://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/report-finds-ashkinazi-jews-descended-from-turks/

    ”Persian Jews converted Turks to Judaism to create the rump of what would become today’s Jewish population, DNA research has revealed.

    The fascinating insight, which shows that most Ashkenazi Jews descend from Turkey, was made possible by state-of-the-art computer modelling and genetic techniques.
    The project, led by Israeli-born Dr Eran Elhaik, even pinpointed Iskenaz, Eskenaz and Ashanaz – three Turkish villages an ancient Silk Road route which still exist today – as part of the original Ashkenazi homeland.
    It is the largest genomic study ever carried out on Ashkenazi Jews, and shows that most of today’s population are the descendants of Greeks, Iranians and others who colonised what is now northern Turkey more than 2,000 years ago.
    Elhaik shows that locals were converted to Judaism by Jews from Persia, whose empire then home to the world’s largest Jewish communities.
    He said the word ‘Ashkenaz’ likely derives from Ashguza, the ancient Assyrian and Babylonian term for Iron Age Eurasian steppeland people known as Scythians.
    Concurrent analysis of Yiddish suggests that it was originally a Slavic language which the researchers think was developed by Jewish tradesmen travelling along the Silk Roads linking China and Europe 1,200 years ago.
    It was only when the Khazar Empire began to decline around 1,000 years ago that the Jewish converts headed west, into central Europe, coming into contact with German-speaking peoples.
    Elhaik and his team from the University of Sheffield publish their findings in scientific journal Genome Biology and Evolution and say their work helps settle an age-old debate about the origins of the 1,000-year old Yiddish language.”

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  215. renfro says:
    @AaronB

    lol…since you love this discussion… I am going to expand it for you.

    Describe the ‘higher levels’…AND ..give specific real world examples of it and the real world results of the practice of the higher levels you describe in answering me.

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  216. AaronB says:
    @renfro

    What we have here is a ‘would be oracle’, Aaron, who wants to engage us in philosophical and quantum physics discussions related to Jews vr Europeans to show us Jews use quantum physics thinking and ‘materialistic ‘ Europeans don’t and therefore Europeans cannot come up with the lofty inspiring visions the Jews offer to the world or people and that is why Europeans are losing out.

    Sort of.

    But at least I’m not a genetic determinist. Europeans had vision once, and they can again. They just took a wrong turn.

    It is astonishing to me how anyone at this late date can deny Europe took a wrong turn. Forget the pride. Don’t be defensive. Its unworthy.

    And secular Jews are not offering a lofty vision – but a degraded and corrupted version of the Lofty Vision.

    And lilies that fester smell worse than weeds.

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  217. annamaria says:
    @Robjil

    The scoundrel is not just a traitor who states clearly (and without any hesitations) that Israeli interests supersede the US interests. He is also a criminal advocating for more Wars for Israel (on the US dime & limb, of course). He is particularly outraged by Syria’s fight for her sovereignty.
    Take note of the ease with which Bret Stephens lies about ziocons’ adherence to “classical liberal values,” each of which has been in reality violated by ziocons.
    He is model of a ziocon parasite. And the ugly, dead face of the NYT.

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  218. AaronB says:
    @renfro

    Higher levels = reality is more than just physical reality. More than just what logic can prove.

    Lower levels = reality is only the material objects our senses reveal, and only what logic can prove.

    Higher levels = all pre-modern cultures, as well as mixed cultures in an unstable equilibrium between past and present, like Europe from 1450 till maybe 1945, or Japan. This latter category being transitional towards modernity and its latter stages exhibiting advanced symptoms of decay.

    Lower levels = modernity, mostly post 1950 West, but existing in gradually expanding form since the 17th century, with latter centuries exhibiting worse and worse symptoms till the final triumph of modernity post war.

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  219. @Corvinus

    Roosevelt stopped Immigration in the 1920′s because we had the same problem with Sicilians and the mafia that we have with the MS-13 today.

    That was the biggest reason-the non-stop flow of Sicilian contract killers and mobsters trying to get rich on prohibition.

    Also Eastern European anarchists poured into the Great Lakes area from Poland, Czech etc.

    Chinese were flooding the labor market and this was a concern as well.

    Whether the Jews were involved in the 1965 Immigration Act or not I cannot conclude, but the Asians displaced them from the top-tier of intelligentsia.

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  220. Art says:
    @AaronB

    But at least I’m not a genetic determinist. Europeans had vision once, and they can again. They just took a wrong turn.

    The Euro elite took Jew big globalist turn.

    Europe is now going nationalistic – things are changing.

    Corbyn: Labour government would quickly recognize Palestine

    Ahead of visit to Palestinian refugee camp, British opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn says a government under his leadership would recognize a Palestinian state ‘as a full state as part of the United Nations very early on.’

    Associated Press |Published: 06.22.18 , 20:10

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5293948,00.html

    Think Peace — Do No harm — Art

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  221. Corvinus says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    “Roosevelt stopped Immigration in the 1920′s because we had the same problem with Sicilians and the mafia that we have with the MS-13 today.”

    Roosevelt was president in the 1930′s and 1940′s. And the supermajority of Italians and Sicilians are not mobsters.

    “Also Eastern European anarchists poured into the Great Lakes area from Poland, Czech etc.”

    Indeed, some. Although I do not recall the 1920′s being a time where they were engaging in perpetual, widespread violence against Americans.

    “Chinese were flooding the labor market and this was a concern as well.”

    You really need to learn some history here.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act

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  222. So Britain “recognizes” a strip of the Levant on the border of North Africa.

    How does this change the situation when 1/3 of the births in London are not white?

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  223. Talha says:
    @renfro

    No , I see it all.

    Good, if what I posited was understood, then there is no need for further back and forth on the matter. As I said, a person will evaluate the same data and fall one way or the other based on the inclinations of the heart…or the genetic programming they are wired for – whichever the case may be.

    and therefore Europeans cannot come up with the lofty inspiring visions the Jews offer to the world or people and that is why Europeans are losing out.

    Pretty much – but it’s not quantum physics – it’s the implications of quantum physics that’s the issue.

    What have you created with it?

    Me? Nothing. Others? Stuff like flash drives…

    using it in the context Aaaron is using it

    I seem to get what he is saying just fine, but again, it’s about as useful as debating one’s favorite sport or hair color.

    Peace.

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  224. Talha says:
    @renfro

    Wow – great find! Thanks!

    Peace.

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  225. Wally says:
    @Corvinus

    said:
    “Yes, there is distinct proof out there, you are just too proud to admit that you are decidedly wrong.”

    Then produce this “distinct proof”. Right here, right now. Everyone, read all below.

    Tell us how the alleged gas chambers supposedly worked.

    Show us the alleged immense human remains that Jews claim still exist in alleged known locations.
    We’re talking about an alleged ’6M Jews & 5M others’ … 11,000,000. There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist to this day and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.
    Tell us why there were thousands of Jews who chose to remain at Auschwitz when the Germans retreated. However, ost by far chose to leave with the Germans.
    The mere fact that there are endless “survivors” when it’s claimed that ‘the Germans tried to kill every Jew they could get their hands

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, &Videos

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau

    http://www.codoh.com

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  226. Talha says:
    @Art

    Hi Art,

    I’m not promoting tribalism. No problems with someone liking their own people, this is natural. But a tribalism in which one supports one’s tribe whether they are doing right or wrong is something to be shunned.

    Christianity recognizes the individual as the center of rational existence.

    Sure, no problem here – one stands alone and answers for one’s own deeds on the Day of Judgement – that ultimately makes oneself one’s primary responsibility. Thus morality must come from a conviction from inside the individual otherwise it is insincere. However, we must needs deal with people who don’t have that same sense of inner morality…

    The issue has always been the balance of the rights of the individual versus the rights of the society; where is the line drawn, who draws it, what is the justification, etc.?

    For instance, around where I live, individuals have every right to purchase and drink alcohol, they do not however have the right to imbibe it or even bring it into our local parks.

    Peace.

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  227. @Molecule

    “The US Army supplied the heroin used by both sides of the so-called Civil War.”

    Heroin was first made by C. R. Alder Wright in 1874 from morphine, a natural product of the opium poppy.

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  228. annamaria says:

    Wars for Israel or how to insult the US veterans and the whole nation. (Remember 9/11, the died firefighters, and the “war on terra?): https://www.globalresearch.ca/are-al-qaeda-affiliates-fighting-alongside-u-s-rebels-in-syrias-south/5645478
    “Today, the Israeli border area with Syria is dotted with Nusra and ISIS encampments, which Israel clearly prefers over the Syrian army and its Iranian and Hezbollah allies. The Wall Street Journal even reported last year that Israel was secretly providing funding for salaries, food, fuel, and munitions to militants across its border.”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-forces-failed-attempts-to-seize-territory-in-southern-syria/5645401

    “The U.S. military base at al-Tanf, in Syria on Jordan’s border, is America’s main training-base for the Saudi-allied ‘rebels’, and has been key to the fundamentalist-Sunni Arabic, outright jihadist, south-Syrian half, of America’s boots-on-the-ground effort, to seize Syria, or at least to seize territory (especially oil-producing territory, around Deir Ezzor) in Syria.”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-to-continue-to-use-white-helmets-as-long-as-western-public-accepts-media-war-lies/5645485

    “The remaining terrorists in Syria – ISIS, al Qaeda, FSA etc. — are all in U.S occupied areas of Syria, and the U.S is protecting them as per usual. But Syria and its allies are defeating the terrorists, so we can expect another false flag incident anytime now…”

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/11/have-the-us-militry-gone-zionist.html

    “The process of conditioning American officers to make them Zionists has been ongoing for a long time…”http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-STaPlQxhJsY/USqXe3tMPTI/AAAAAAAAKqY/WRfNP9PgHKs/s1600/children+killed+drone+attacks.jpg

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  229. annamaria says:

    The institutionalized amorality. Michael A. Hoffman II, “Jewish philosophy toward Amalek:”

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  230. skrik says:
    @Josecanuc

    Man is conspicuously insane

    Me: Yes and no. Most ‘sheople in the street’ = 1984-type proles are OK; it’s most of the so-called ‘leaders’ who are insane, especially in ‘the West.’ Proof by inspection.

    Further, GIGO = IF the public are forced into a ‘mushroom club’ (kept in the dark and fed on bulls**t) via a corrupt&venal MSM [as they demonstrably are] THEN they can’t possibly contribute in any meaningful way – but again, most so-called ‘leaders’ in the West ignore the sheople’s wishes anyway. It *could* be possible, to have a sheople-based democracy à la Switzerland, but even there, $s rule by pushing lying = misleading arguments, like “Riskant, teuer und schädlich: Nein zum Experiment Vollgeld.” In actual fact, a sheople’s bank à la BND is what each country really needs, plus non-voodoo economic practices.

    There can be *NO* hope for wo/mankind UNTIL the so-called ‘leaders’ are forced to sit for and pass a ‘sanity/honesty test’ OR [better?] dispense with all so-called ‘leaders’ outright. rgds

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  231. annamaria says:

    Ziocons’ thirst for wars and more wars: https://ahtribune.com/world/2317-paul-craig-roberts.html
    “Israel wants Syria and Iran destabilized, because these two countries are the suppliers of Hezbollah, the Lebanese militia that has twice frustrated Israel’s attempted occupation of southern Lebanon. Israel wants the water resources that are there. If Israel can use the US military to clear her foes out of the way, Israel can go about her business unimpeded. …
    The basis of 21st century US foreign policy was promulgated in 1991 by top Pentagon official Paul Wolfowitz [a leading ziocon]. Known as “the Wolfowitz doctrine,” it defines the principle goal of US policy to be the prevention of the rise of any other state, with Russia specifically named, that could serve as a check on Washington’s unilateralism. The Wolfowitz Doctrine is fully in force and is the reason that Russia and its president have been demonized with the most outrageous lies and false accusations ever since Russia blocked Obama’s intended invasion of Syria and bombing of Iran. …
    Washington has two issues with Iran. One is that Iran is a sovereign country at odds with US policy. The other issue is that Iran is in Israel’s way.”

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  232. Corvinus says:
    @Wally

    “There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed.”

    Here is the distinct proof.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/the-archeological-excavations-that-led-to-the-gas-chambers-of-sobibor-a-993733.html

    “And unlike Auschwitz, no barracks or mountains of glasses, shoes and human hair or visible remains of extermination facilities were left behind in Operation Reinhardt. In the middle of the war, the Nazi criminals made a point of eliminating any traces of their own after they had killed the Jews. Between November 1942 and December 1943, the Nazis exhumed bodes, killed almost all of the remaining prisoners at the three camps and burned any of the human remains still detectable. The killers destroyed plans, documents and stripped the buildings down to their foundations, even carrying the rubble away. They leveled structures, planted forests and established farms. Operation Reinhardt was top-secret and it was meant to be the perfect crime.”

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  233. Wally says:
    @Corvinus

    everyone, read all below
    That’s it, Corvinus? That’s your bet shot? I have you again. We’re way ahead of you and those like you.
    Corvinus, you’re proving your indoctrinated ignorance once again. That laughable excavation by rabid Zionist Haimi has been utterly debunked and exposed for the fraud that it is. He shows the outline of a building then claims it was a gas chamber. LOL
    Where’s the alleged 250,000 Jew remains that are alleged to be at Sobibor to this day?
    see:
    “Gas chamber” discovered at Sobibor: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8887

    [MORE]

    Must see: This is what Zionist ‘archaeologist’ Haimi claims are proof of 250,000 murdered Jews. LOL

    http://b2.jpost.com/HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?ID=254378

    At Sobibor, this is where the alleged remains of “250,000 Jews” supposedly are:


    So why don’t we see them? Why do Zionist ‘archaeologists’ avoid excavating, verifying, displaying the alleged contents there?

    more:
    Sobibor Strangeness / A small compendium: https://codoh.com/library/document/644/?lang=en

    “Building E” at Sobibór – Addenda: https://codoh.com/library/document/4402/?lang=en

    New “Memorial Center” Planned for the Sobibór “Death Camp”: https://codoh.com/library/document/4455/?lang=en

    The Ground Water Level at Sobibór 1942-1943: https://codoh.com/library/document/648/?lang=en

    Sobibor Jew corpses claimed here, so why don’t they excavate, verify, & show the world? !!: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10610

    In fact it’s not just at Sobibor, there is not a single verifiable ‘holocaust’ mass grave as alleged that can be shown, not one. The shysters claim to know exactly where they are yet we see nothing, only empty claims. For the new readers, that’s about all you need to know.
    http://www.codoh.com

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  234. @Mulegino1

    I agree also.

    I’ve not read any of Hoffman’s books; all I know of Hoffman is what I’ve viewed on several videos and this interview with Saker.

    In this interview, Hoffman’s comparison of National Socialism to “Rabbinic Phariseeism,” with “self-worship – narcissism” being the salient feature, is disappointing. For one thing, it’s an intellectually and contextually sloppy comparison:

    –> NS had a decidedly national focus, and endured for ~15 years, it has been all but erased from the face of the earth, physically thru war and culturecide, historically via punishment, censorship and persistent propaganda.
    But Rabbinic Phariseeism is group evolutionary strategy that has developed and endured for over a millennia; it is not territorially-specific — in the video Saker linked, Rabbi Bar-Hayim declares that it is morally necessary to kill all the people of Gaza for the benefit of Jews just as it was morally appropriate to firebomb numerous German cities (and incinerate hundreds of thousands of German civilians) for the benefit of Jews; in other words, no matter where they are, Jews are entitled to dominate and to exterminate the indigenous people in order to do so. Rabbinic Phariseeism has universalist intentions in which Jews will be in charge: so AaronB informs @ #57:

    Judaism is very much a universalizing religion – Jews have a unique and privileged place in the scheme of world salvation, and are certainly more important than others, but only insofar as they play a key role in the salvation of the entire world.

    so Rabbi Ken Spiro of AISH.com insists:

    http://www.aish.com/sp/ph/96037069.html

    –> NS was a reaction to Rabbinic Phariseeism, a defense against it, perhaps only the second such (temporarily) successful attempt to remove the malign influence from. One might have agreed with Hoffman if he had claimed that Nazism was ‘zionism for Germans,’ but even that would have to have been qualified and limited.

    –> NS was a nation-based social and political response to a devastating attack on German culture and the German people — 800,000 German civilians died of starvation as a result of a war that was prolonged to benefit/make possible the Zionist project. That’s the equivalent of ~4 million people in USA today, approximately the population of LosAngeles. How would USA react if every single man, woman child in Los Angeles were starved to death?

    –> Hoffman conjures Blavatsky and other “occult” or “Kabbalistic” or deeeeep psychological maladjustments to explain German reactions to Jews, but he seems to rely on the propaganda version of history rather than actual events as they played out for the vast majority of the German people.

    –> Specifically, Hoffman failed to note an extremely important, readily verified fact: it was at the direction of the leader of Zionist Jews that German Jews were “expelled” from Germany. The Feb. + – 14, 1933 conversation where that directive was delivered by Louis Brandeis to Rabbi Stephen Wise is recorded in Wise’s autobiography, The Challenging Years; quoted in Edwin Black’s The Transfer Agreement; and cited by Douglas Reed in The Controversy of Zion.

    –> Nor does Hoffman appear to take account of the activities of Jews within Germany over the preceding half-century or so, particularly as Jewish money practices exploited German unification and industrialization; and Jews outside Germany who acted upon- and relentlessly vilified Germans as they attempted to revitalize their national morale and economy. Even Jeff Herf conceded that Germans had every reason to be angry with Jews and seek to expel them from Germany, given the harms Germans had endured because of (primarily Zionist) Jewish activities.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?192852-1/the-jewish-enemy-nazi-propaganda


    Ron Unz published the Saker-Hoffman interview, and also the over-the-top holocaust howl by Karen Greenberg. Unz commentariat called out Greenberg’s screed for the excess in holocaustism that it is.

    But we’re not going to make headway in finding a balanced modus vivendi with our Jewish brethren and sistern — or a sane, America First foreign policy — if “good guys” like Hoffman mouth what is effectively the same decontextualized and distorted historicity as the obvious propagandists like Greenberg.

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  235. renfro says:
    @AaronB

    But at least I’m not a genetic determinist.

    Well…neither am I.
    If I had to choose any ancestry other than my white European one I would choose American Indian.
    Their spiritualty and way of ‘being’ , derived from and based on nature, beats philosophy and physics any day

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  236. Wally says:
    @Corvinus

    Everyone, read all below.
    quoted:
    “And unlike Auschwitz, no barracks or mountains of glasses, shoes and human hair or visible remains of extermination facilities were left behind in Operation Reinhardt. In the middle of the war, the Nazi criminals made a point of eliminating any traces of their own after they had killed the Jews. Between November 1942 and December 1943, the Nazis exhumed bodes, killed almost all of the remaining prisoners at the three camps and burned any of the human remains still detectable. The killers destroyed plans, documents and stripped the buildings down to their foundations, even carrying the rubble away. They leveled structures, planted forests and established farms. Operation Reinhardt was top-secret and it was meant to be the perfect crime.”
    For which there is no proof.

    Yet here is where Jews claim the remains of 250,000 Jews are to this day:

    So why don’t they excavate there are and show us the alleged human remains for 250,000?

    Yet if it was all so ‘top secret’ that why are they claimed “survivors”. And BTW, human remains cannot simply disappear.

    Indeed. The Reinhardt transport sites which includes Treblinka for which a ‘forensic study’ that ‘proved’ that Jews were steam to death in steam chambers’. LOL

    The Reinhardt camps where it was later changed that Jews were allegdly gassed with diesel Soviet submarine engines, then changed to Soviet diesel tank engines. LOL

    “Leon Poliakov, Jewish ‘historian’, said: “there is little to add to this description [the Gerstein statement] which holds good for Treblinka, Sobibor as well as for the Belzec camp. The latter installations were constructed in almost the same way and also used the exhaust carbon monoxide gases from Diesel motors as death agents.” According to Poliakov, more than a million and a half people were killed with Diesel exhaust.”
    Scientifically impossible as alleged.
    see:
    The Diesel Gas Chambers: Myth within a Myth

    https://codoh.com/library/document/982/

    see:
    The “Extermination Camps” of “Aktion Reinhardt” / An Analysis and Refutation of Factitious “Evidence,” Deceptions and Flawed Argumentation of the “Holocaust Controversies” Bloggers
    By Jürgen Graf , Carlo Mattogno , Thomas Kues

    https://codoh.com/library/document/3052/?lang=en

    http://www.codoh.com

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  237. AaronB says:
    @renfro

    Their spiritualty and way of ‘being’ , derived from and based on nature, beats philosophy and physics any day

    I agree. Philosophy is just words, words, words. What we need is an experience, a way of being.

    To a certain degree the problems with Western society is that we are trapped in words and concepts – we take them too seriously.

    You might like Zen too if you like the American Indian way if being. Check it out.

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  238. Them Guys says:
    @Wally

    Jews LIE, So Often, and So Much, that a long time ago someone even Named an Entire Month after it!

    The Liar jew Month of……..JULY!!

    Chabad members worldwide will celebrate JULY aka Lying jew month, Via grand spectacles of Twirling Live Chickens above their black hatted heads, to transfer jewish sins into live chicken, then smash chickens head and body against closest solid brick or cement wall to kill chicken.

    This very Holy practice once completed has fully transferred all jew sins into live chicken via twirling above head, and when chicken is dead, so are jews sins all gone!

    Now the jew being sinless, can Re-start their jewdeo policy agenda of comitting more new sins! And as long as Live chickens remain available, there will be no end to jewish sinning.

    Also keep in mind, this rid a jew of sins holy practice is no fluke!…Indeed it has been developed and improved upon only through 3,500 years of intense jewdeo think-tankings over 35 centuries.

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  239. Them Guys says:
    @Wally

    Wally: Just the huge amount of money it must have cost jews to erect that large roof covering etc. As a big Dog & Pony Shoah-Show piece could probably have Paid for a true dig at site so to prove jews claims of dead bodies eh.

    Same goes for endless holyhoax museums built in most every country. Even just the, what is it? 100-150 American hoax centers and museums so far built in usa lands…That total cost would pay many times over to dig at every jew claimed site of Nazi buried jews at.

    But No! No such digs done, and NO to all Revisionists who desire to dig up and prove which is truth, jew claims, or jew lies?

    I bet a million laid off or lost jobs totally, American workers would fast apply for a job doing such grave site digs to finally set record straight…ONLY One main reason exist that makes such proof finding missions OFF Limits completely….That being, jews are Lying and Lying Big time about the entire ordeal…Well, “maybe’ 2% is factual and truth, it is Just that Other 98% is jew Lies.

    Sooner or later its all going to crash down, and just picture the day entire worlds goyim demands for international jewry to RE-Pay Back every fuckin last cent jews swindled and scammed from usa and germany and other nations taxes and donations etc…and ALL for a huge cause of Lies!

    Even usa MSM news wont then be able to hide facts any longer. And there shall be no place left for the perps and culprits to run to and hide….Every last stone or rock will get turned over in search of said perps and liars. Oy Vey and WOE to such massive Liars once real truth dissolves their too many Lies eh.

    PS: And in advance of almost certain jew or unquestionable jew defender goys here claims of somehow to dig up such sites will “Dis-Honor” any Dead bodies, or is too, too, offensive to alive families of dead jews….I say HOGWASH!…..The Dead have no possibility of a memory and you cannot do any harm to dead persons once dead period…as to families alive “Feelings may get harmed”?….Too bad, they want truth or not? Just Rub their $1,000 tax free monthly hoax payment all over sore harmed body spots and that should Heal it fast eh.

    We Goys should apply for hoax cash payments too…Just tell them in charge “I lost entire family, 67 people, Including Both of My Parents back in 1940 Nazi germany……Then I was Born in the 1950′s!”

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  240. Them Guys says:

    This is how that Oscar Meyer Hot Dog Ad needs be re-tuned.

    Oh I Wish I were an Oscar Meyer JewBoy

    That is what I’d really Like to Be

    For if I were an Oscar Meyer JewBoy

    Everybody’d Throw their Cash at Me

    And if I were an Oscar Meyer JewBoy

    I’d tell Massive Lies all and Every Day

    For the More I tell those Massive Lies all Day

    The More every Goy Would Pay and Pay and Pay

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  241. renfro says:
    @Talha

    As I said, a person will evaluate the same data and fall one way or the other based on the inclinations of the heart…or the genetic programming they are wired for – whichever the case may be.

    That much is probably true if we are a collection of genetic atoms.
    But then, here’s an example….my political anti Israel and anti Zionist Jews position came from my study of the ME countries, starting with the British National archives where I tripped over ‘Zionism in the ME’, which led back to the US, going thru all sources, Library of Congress, Thomas,gov, Presidential papers, all declassified documents, etc, etc., etc..

    The way my genetic cookie crumbled declared Zionism and Israel as evil and guilty of all kinds of crimes against Palestine, the US and numerous others and US political corruption as also guilty of those crimes.

    Now if we want to use Aaaron’s higher visions physics that:

    ”Higher levels = reality is more than just physical reality. More than just what logic can prove.

    ”Lower levels = reality is only the material objects our senses reveal, and only what logic can prove.

    In the comparison of Europeans low visions and Jews higher visions we must ask, does the Jewish vision of reality being more than physical reality …i.e. mystical and inspiring, ‘appeal’ more than European visions of what is actually real and observed.

    Then you have to also add to that what is most widely accepted by the world as ‘moral’ which is a non tangible also and that ‘immorality’ can be observed by people if morality is part of their vision.

    Which you must then ask…..are the Jewish zionist visions …aka, chosen, Israel, mysticism, etc. more appealing to most people than the European vision that Jewish Israeli crimes must be stopped and that it s ‘a moral cause’.

    It appears that ‘most’ people, when made aware of what the Jewish higher ‘visions’ have created in the world, choose the lower European vision based on observable reality of death and destruction caused by the Jewish higher vision in this matter and they find and choose that ‘lower’ vision as a ‘inspiring moral cause’ …..which they see as a higher vision than the Jews higher metaphysical vision.

    Somewhere on here I posted about the neurological research that posits that brain processes can be ‘altered genetically’ over a period of time and those genetic brain alterations inherited / passed down to off spring.
    That would be of more value in discussing groups like Jews vr other groups if one wants get into genes, molecules and physics.

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  242. renfro says:
    @AaronB

    You’re still not giving me concrete examples .
    And materialism existed in pre modern cultures as well as modern.
    If it hadn’t we wouldn’t have what you call modern.
    If you want to claim that materialism is more so in modern culture and not just an extension of pre modern culture– fine.
    But you have to pinpoint ‘why’ that happened…..if its because of ‘vision’ –fine.
    But whose vision?…. what forces, social, political, human nature, etc. caused more materialism?

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  243. renfro says:
    @annamaria

    You might want to follow JINSA, it is behind Israeli training for US police

    http://www.jinsa.org/

    The Jewish Institute for National Security of America (JINSA)

    You can learn a lot just by following their twitter.

    https://twitter.com/jinsadc?lang=en

    Note:
    In my early days on the I-P-US issue I emailed JINSA a negative comment about a article on their site—-they responded by trying to plant a bug in my computer…lol.
    Back then most of their site wasn’t password protected but is now…..they don’t want outsiders seeing what they are up to now that Israel is more critically exposed than it use to be.

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  244. Art says:
    @Talha

    I’m not promoting tribalism. No problems with someone liking their own people, this is natural. But a tribalism in which one supports one’s tribe whether they are doing right or wrong is something to be shunned.

    Hi Talha,

    I marvel at the power and grip that tribal identity has over we humans. How can Americans identify with the “Old Country” of their great grandparents? People are willing to actually physically fight over that identity. How stupid.

    Tribalism is the bane of the human soul. There is nothing more destructive on this Earth then tribal identity. We have intellectually and culturally evolved past that need.

    With that said, it is clear that we humans crave a group identity. I believe that the Swiss have the best most rational system of identity. They identify with their town or community. The folks in the next town are considered foreigners.

    It is rational to identify with community. The welfare of folks in your community is important to you. It is a relationship based on a positive caring – not some long past fierce fidelity that has no real relevance.

    Think Peace — Do No harm — Maintain Hope, Love, Truth, & idealism — Art

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  245. Wally says:
    @Corvinus

    Everyone read all below. Corvinus posted:
    ““And unlike Auschwitz, no barracks or mountains of glasses, shoes and human hair or visible remains of extermination facilities were left behind in Operation Reinhardt. In the middle of the war, the Nazi criminals made a point of eliminating any traces of their own after they had killed the Jews. Between November 1942 and December 1943, the Nazis exhumed bodes, killed almost all of the remaining prisoners at the three camps and burned any of the human remains still detectable. The killers destroyed plans, documents and stripped the buildings down to their foundations, even carrying the rubble away. They leveled structures, planted forests and established farms. Operation Reinhardt was top-secret and it was meant to be the perfect crime.” No proof given as usual.
    Contradiction & impossibilities are the rule within the laughable ‘holocau$t’ narrative.

    ex.: Treblinka was the allegedly the largest Operaton Reinhardt transport sites.

    So if the ‘Nazis’ magically made all the alleged human remains disappear then why do we have this alleged location of a claimed 900,000 Jew remains according to Treblinka officials? Of course, no alleged remains can be shown.

    Recall that there were many failed attempts to find these allegedly known huge mass graves / remains, which Corvinus’s quote says do not exist. LOL I rather doubt they would have wasted their time looking if they didn’t expect to find them.
    another example.:
    !! Excavation Result: No Enormous Human Remains as Alleged at Babi Yar !! : https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11314

    http://www.codoh.com

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  246. AaronB says:
    @renfro

    I would say spiritual forces caused more materialism.

    There is always the choice to turn to materialism, especially since it can sometimes be a source of power, briefly until it hollows you out.

    That choice is always a possibility. And it was taken in Europe around 1450, and increased in momentum until now.

    It was a choice – there is nothing in logic that compels it. It was a free choice. In fact it is illogical. And it will always be a possibility.

    Unless it is overcome, Europe will either be conquered by another people or just gradually die out of sickness and psychological ailments.

    what forces, social, political, human nature, etc. caused more materialism?

    Because you don’t see any other categories, you cannot understand it. It was a spiritual decision by people with free will.

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  247. Art says:
    @AaronB

    I would say spiritual forces caused more materialism.

    There is always the choice to turn to materialism, especially since it can sometimes be a source of power, briefly until it hollows you out.

    What are you talking about? There is no choice – only a fool would chose spirituality over materialism. You can not eat spirituality. (We can have both.)

    Give me food, shelter, medicine , and power over spirituality any and every day of the week.

    Those things allow for the luxury of spirituality.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope, Love, Truth, & idealism — Art

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  248. renfro says:
    @AaronB

    spiritual forces caused more materialism

    I would not think so. Nuns , Monks, people who choose the pure spiritual give up all their worldly possession for their spiritualty.
    So it should be the opposite….lost of the spiritual caused materialism .

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  249. RobinG says:
    @Art

    Dear Art,

    I’m so happy you said that, and so directly! Aaron is just a dopey waster (of anybody’s time who reads his naval-gazing ramblings), but perhaps he aligns with the half-naked spiritual frauds who wander India, depending on the generosity of those who either raise food or do some work that enables them to buy it.

    Funny story. Daughter of a friend of mine divested from most of her possessions, declaring that people have “too much stuff,” and took off to Europe for some months. However, she’s an artist, a painter. So, not only is she selling “stuff,” she needs customers with a wall in a home on which to hang the stuff.

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  250. Miro23 says:
    @AaronB

    There is always the choice to turn to materialism, especially since it can sometimes be a source of power, briefly until it hollows you out.

    I agree that it’s an important but invisible point, and in a world mostly defined by material possessions it’s difficult to imagine an alternative.

    However, going back to the well used Swiss example, the Swiss are on average very rich people (a lot of capital and material possessions) but they still have a very strong sense of local community at the level of their Commune and Canton, and these entities are functioning political and economic units with obligatory citizen participation. Citizens themselves debate and investigate issues and mostly decide on their own local taxation and public spending – in other words they function like mini-countries under the general umbrella of the Swiss Confederation.

    They don’t do this to increase their material possessions. They do it to protect their historic community, their traditions, their landscape and to exclude exploitative special interests – and it’s probably the longest running democratic system in the world, dating as it does from the Middle Ages.

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  251. annamaria says:

    “Did anybody vote for Kushner and Adelson to run the US?” — Comment section for https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/mattis-prevented-ww3-russia-april-now-hes-chopping-block-crossing-israel-firsters-adelson
    “The firings of Tillerson and McMaster were notable for the involvement of powerful pro-Israel figures — particularly Zionist billionaire Sheldon Adelson, who is currently the largest donor to both Trump and the Republican Party. Both of those figures [Tillerson and McMaster] had opposed major policy objectives that were of great interest to Adelson, especially the destruction of the Iran deal. …
    Mattis seems to be on the chopping block for a similar reason, especially given the fact that he had not been consulted on the destruction of the Iran deal – a deal that Mattis supported. In addition, Mattis did notably oppose Trump’s decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, a policy move that had been directed by Adelson himself. Mattis had worried that the decision would increase unrest in the region.
    Furthermore, prior to becoming Secretary of Defense, Mattis had criticized Israel’s expansion of illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank, asserting that it could lead to an “apartheid state,” and had claimed that the U.S.’ pro-Israel bias had alienated the U.S. from “moderate Arabs” in the Middle East. …
    In addition to trying to save the Iran deal, Tillerson had further earned the ire of Israel hard-liners by demanding that Israel return millions in U.S. military aid last year that had exceeded the figure agreed upon under the Obama administration.”
    – The talmudists cannot stop on their own. The opportunists in the US government are the ziocons’ willful toys furthering the WWIII.

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  252. “Orthodox Judaism, which is the scion of the religion of the ancient Pharisees, is above all, self-worship, and pride is the paramount destroyer.”

    “Orthodox Judaism, I regret to say, is a religion of lying and deceit. Duplicity and mendacity are formally inculcated. They are not incidental.” (END QUOTES)

    Seems like Orthodox Judaism has gained firm purchase inside the American Government at all levels and the corporate/financial elitists in general, and the administration of the current President in particular. This interview is one of the most comprehensive that Michael Hoffman has done. It leaves no question unanswered. The other best interviews are the one he did with James Fetzer, and his interviews with Texe Marrs.

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  253. annamaria says:

    The Israel-firsters infested Atlantic Council has celebrated its favorite war criminal (of Jewish persuasion), the ugly Madeleine Albright for whom the death of 500000 Iraqi children “was worth it.” What was this “it” — the joyful approval by Israel?: https://www.rt.com/op-ed/431128-bana-alabed-bellingcat-atlantic-council/
    The celebration was joined by the famous military-chemistry-artillery-geography-the-Middle-East-culture “Expert” Eliot Higgins of Bellingcat infamy. In reality, the useful idiot Eliot Higgins has zero expertise in everything but Russophobia and selling women’ underwear: https://www.rt.com/news/429609-eliot-higgins-suck-my-balls/
    The zionized and war-loving Atlantic Council :
    Frederick Kempe, President and CEO
    Damon M. Wilson, Executive Vice President
    Karl Hopkins, General Counsel
    Tess deBlanc-Knowles, Special Assistant to the President and CEO
    Lisa Hawkins, Executive Assistant to the President and CEO
    Mary Rouse, Special Assistant to the Executive Vice President
    Moritz Luetgerath, Research Assistant to the President and CEO
    — These people have no decency.

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  254. @annamaria

    “Did anybody vote for Kushner and Adelson to run the US?”

    The american people did.

    And the results would have been the same if the war criminal, Hilary Clinton had won.

    Maybe if the american people weren’t so busy watching stupid movies,series, sports and buying lots of stuff they would have understood by now that they should stop voting because when they vote they become partner in crime of the Zio-Mafia.

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  255. @renfro

    Anyone who knows German and reads / hears Yiddish, knows that it is a substantially German language.

    I don’t think that speakers of Russian or Polish can understand Yiddish as much as German-speakers can, but would like to hear from speakers of those languages, who will know better.

    As for the genetic origin of typical Ashkenazim or most Ashkenazim — if this study was done on a representative Ashkenazim population, then perhaps the Ashkenazim are typically majority-Italian through their maternal line (per the 2013 column I cited from Jon Entine at Genetic Literacy Project) and substantially Turkish and Semitic/Middle Eastern through their paternal line.

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  256. @James Brown

    The American people did not vote for Kushner or Adelson. Trump supporters largely voted for an end to wars in the ME, an end to special interests controlling foreign and domestic policies, and an end to harmful immigration (for send them home, make America America again, end birthright citizenship and chain migration, build a wall, and maintain traditional demographics and culture). Trump voters wanted to put America first, and I doubt that many would have ever voted for Kushner or Adelson.

    Trump’s MAGA movement is just another movement that was hijacked, if he was ever sincere, just like the Tea Party, Newt Gingrich’s movement, the red tide against Obama, and others.

    I don’t know which group is worse, the traitors of the left, or the traitors of the right.

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  257. “The American people did not vote for Kushner or Adelson. ”

    They did. When you vote for the mafia what you’re doing is giving them “carte blanche” to do whatever they want.

    When mafia decides to choose A or B to be part of the government or to get money from criminal A (Sheldon Adelson) or B (Koch brothers) in exchange of favors, it is all within their “constitutional rights”, because of the elections they “won”.

    I’d suggest that it’s only ignorance and hope that can explain why american people still believe that change can come through ballot box. Treason yes, but no change.

    “Trump’s MAGA movement is just another movement that was hijacked, if he was ever sincere, just like the Tea Party, Newt Gingrich’s movement, the red tide against Obama, and others.”

    One doesn’t need to be a genius to know that that would happen as night follows day.

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  258. @James Brown

    Lots of people who voted for Trump understood that he may not be sincere, but the other choice was Hillary Clinton, who was completely upfront about her hatred of traditional America, and her willingness to break any law, as well as make war wherever and whenever her masters tell her to do so. Trump’s purpose may be to take us to the same place in a different manner, but it’s still better than the alternative in the short term.

    Everyone knows that the system is thoroughly corrupt by now. We are almost at the point where we either become slaves or we resist physically. Our masters certainly send the message that they view is as their property. What do you suggest?

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  259. peterAUS says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    What do you suggest?

    Me I?

    First and foremost, create/have a vision which is better than the current one.

    And, no, “MAGA” won’t cut it.

    You’d need to go deeper, much deeper.

    Good luck.

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  260. @OilcanFloyd

    “Lots of people who voted for Trump understood that he may not be sincere, but the other choice was Hillary Clinton…”

    Again: by now , american people should know that “the lesser evil theory” is false and never pay attention to it. I know people who voted for war criminal HC because she believes in Global Warming whereas Trump doesn’t.

    “Trump’s purpose may be to take us to the same place in a different manner, but it’s still better than the alternative in the short term.”…This is false and it was always false.

    The evil forces that have complete control over the USA are not stupid. They support and finance both parties(candidates) because they know whoever wins will do what s/he is told to do.

    “Everyone knows that the system is thoroughly corrupt by now” -False.

    Even though abstention was huge, millions voted for the war criminal HC, for the liar and narcissist Trump, and millions would have voted for the “socialist” and buffoon Sanders…

    Millions still believe in the system and by voting they allow the system to survive.

    “What do you suggest?”

    I don’t believe in revolutions which is basically about violence.
    It seems to me that the system has a week point: she needs consent of the people.

    Maybe american people can re withdraw their consent by refusing to vote ?

    But that is wishful thinking because as I said millions of Americans still believe in the system.

    Those who have power in the USA and other “democracies” know that if you give people “bread and circuses”, you will always get their consent.

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  261. j2 says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    “What do you suggest?”

    Your constitution is old but finally it has failed to prevent a takeover, so you must change it in some way. You might extend the president’s term to 6-8 years and allow only one term, so that he does not need to run the second time, forbid donations to presidential/parliament campaigns and allocate a reasonable and equal sum for all candidates from federal budget to stop corruption, and remove senate and change to a one chamber (parliament) multiparty system, they are more difficult to take over. That is, check what enables the takeover and change the system to prevent it, preferably copy the system with reasonable modifications from some time-tested, democratic and working one.

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  262. renfro says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Most linguist agree that Yiddish came from Slavic languages …likely Polish due to the similarities

    And Italy is unlikely mix for Ashkenazim Jews since the migration pattern of the Jews was from Turkey toward central and eastern Europe.
    To account for the modern Ashkenazim mix with Turks Poland is most likely.

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  263. annamaria says:
    @renfro

    “…the migration pattern of the Jews was from Turkey toward central and eastern Europe.”
    – This is a detour prompted by your reference to Turkey: Take a look at the supremacist Avigdor Lieberman, a convicted felon and former night-club bouncer from Moldova, whose subhuman “directness” towards the native Palestinians endeared him to Knesset. This felon and former bouncer has become, appropriately, the Defense Minister of Israel.
    Lieberman’s facial features are a cross between a native of Central Asia and a Turk. And yet this apparently composite breed has been deadly serious about his “Jewish superiority” over “other people.” How do these lunatics arrive at their hilarious yet dangerous beliefs?

    https://popularresistance.org/from-deir-yassin-massacre-to-avigdor-lieberman-no-palestinian-is-innocent/

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  264. @James Brown

    Donald Trump isn’t the answer, but he is clearly better than Hillary Clinton if you don’t want war and social instability.

    I’d love to see reform, but I can’t see the PTB implementing any sort of reform willingly. Our elites spin the will of the voters to fit their agenda, so I wouldn’t say that the system relies on consent, either.

    I agree that the people running the U.S. are evil, but they do lots of stupid things. However when they control such a powerful system, it doesn’t really matter what sorts of dumb mistakes they make, especially when they are so paranoid and jealous of their power.

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  265. renfro says:
    @annamaria

    Pretty boy isn’t he?….lol

    Likey descended from Neanderthals.

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  266. Lugh says:
    @AaronB

    Nonsense. Jews try to convince others that their particularity is special and “universal”. It’s just their particular power trip. And since they’re special, they don’t have to follow rules or universal morality either. Wake up Aaron, and come out of it.

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  267. Lugh says:

    One caveat: Blavatsky loved the Kabbalah and hated Christianity, even quoting that work of Christophobic slander, the Toldeth Yeshu. Her feelings were so extreme that it helped to split the Theosophical Movement. Her successor Annie Besant toned this aspect of it down considerably, making Christ into an Ascended Master.

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  268. @OilcanFloyd

    “Donald Trump isn’t the answer, but he is clearly better than Hillary Clinton ”

    You’re a firm believer in the “theory of lesser evil”. As I tried to suggest to you that theory is false.

    I believe that american people should not vote even for someone as decent, honest and competent as Dr Ron Paul. Why ? To paraphrase the slogan the mafia used to put a criminal in the white house:
    “It’s the system, stupid”.

    Even Dr Ron Paul as the president, america will not change, america foreign policy will not change.
    Dr Ron Paul would do what is told to do, if not, he would be destroyed.

    “if you don’t want war and social instability.” …
    You mean you never heard about Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, Palestine or you don’t care ?

    How about Iran ? I can assure you that Trump, like the war criminal HC, is all for the destruction of Iran. If the evil forces that control the USA decide that they can destroy Iran w/o Israel having to suffer massive casualties , they will destroy Iran and Trump will be more than happy.

    That will probably guarantee his re-election.

    “so I wouldn’t say that the system relies on consent, either.”

    It does…. It does…If only American people knew that, then maybe the crimes being committed in the name of the American people abroad (and in the USA), could be stopped.

    But the truth is,the American people don’t give a damn.

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  269. Vojkan says:

    Thank you dor this very interesting interview.

    “I was often at odds with many of my liberal professors—not due to their Leftism, but their tunnel vision and abhorrence of dissenting ideas, in spite of posing as dissenters.”

    Heard it many times. Read it many times. Experienced it several times myself.

    “Israel must make sacrifices to Satan so that he will leave Israel unmolested”

    Don’t know why but the often incantatory campaign of demonisation, the false flags, the fake genocide, the Hague inquisition against the Serbs in the 1990s do seem to me as bearing more than a faint resemblance with a satanic ritual.

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  270. Them Guys says:
    @Vojkan

    Just wait until they get their 3rd Temple built! That’s when entire world will see a massive amount of Satanic Worship, Cult like ritual agendas, the whole nine yards as they say.

    With their biggest of all problems being, what is more important for jewry, Self Worship? Or Money/Mammon/Shekel Worship? Decisions, Decisions eh.

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  271. Art says:
    @annamaria

    And yet this apparently composite breed has been deadly serious about his “Jewish superiority” over “other people.” How do these lunatics arrive at their hilarious yet dangerous beliefs?

    Hi annamaria,

    The Little Jews worship these peacocks of death and greed, strutting over Western civilization. Because of their dishonest greedy cultural personalities, for 2 thousand years Jews have been rejected by most all societies. So now by hook and crook, they have the economic power to look down on Gentile folks – and they are maximum proud of it. They look up with pride on their clever assassins and bankers that bring them that power.

    The Little Jews worship the Big Jews that bring them power – end of story.

    Think Peace — Art

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  272. @SolontoCroesus

    There are several generalizations in your reply. This rejoinder will deal with only the most egregious.

    You wrote: “Hoffman’s comparison of National Socialism to ‘Rabbinic Phariseeism,’ with ‘self-worship – narcissism’ being the salient feature, is disappointing. For one thing, it’s an intellectually and contextually sloppy comparison: NS had a decidedly national focus, and endured for ~15 years, it has been all but erased from the face of the earth, physically thru war and culturecide, historically via punishment, censorship and persistent propaganda. But Rabbinic Phariseeism is group evolutionary strategy that has developed and endured for over a millennia; it is not territorially-specific…” (End quote)

    What do the preceding prolix remarks have to do with refuting my contention that Hitler’s Nazism (“National Socialism,” i.e. “NS”), constitutes a type of self-worship?

    You wrote: “NS was a reaction to Rabbinic Phariseeism, a defense against it, perhaps only the second such (temporarily) successful attempt to remove the malign influence from.” (End quote)

    Nietzsche warned about becoming what you (allegedly) oppose. The Nazis did indeed become a type of spiritual Talmudism, exhibiting the accompanying pathological narcissism—pitfalls that Luther and Nietzsche relentlessly opposed. Moreover, I am not at all convinced that Hitler’s movement was a genuine revolt against Talmudic Judaism, in that anyone conversant with its self-protection mechanisms knows that it becomes stronger as a result of certain types of hostility and persecution. In addition to being the gravedigger of Germany, Adolf Hitler is the actual founder of the Israeli state, without whom it would not have come to pass. Germany in ruins and the Israelis flying high—this is the “Fuhrer’s” legacy — but no doubt everyone but Hitler is to blame (another reaction typical of Talmudists when their rabbis are shown to have been guilty of high crimes and calamities) .

    Much of the rest of your reply consists of monotonous “blame the Jews” stuff that is a fixture of creaky 1930s Jew hate. I have studied (in “Usury in Christendom”) the utility of this hatred for the empire of gentile usurers who, beginning in the early Renaissance, distracted from their massive usury operations by scapegoating Judaic money-lenders who represented not one-tenth of the usury operations of the era. Germany in the 1920s was peopled with many tens of thousands of patriotic, assimilating German-Judaics who, contrary to Hitler, had fought honorably in World War I and had abandoned the Talmud in favor of Christianity or secularism. How can you justify their collective punishment?

    Furthermore, do I understand you correctly, are you actually trying to put the blame for Hitler’s mass extrusion of German-Judaics, on Louis Brandeis and Stephen Wise? (‘…it was at the direction of the leader of Zionist Jews that German Jews were ‘expelled’ from Germany’). You really imagine that absent Zionist chicanery, Hitler would have been fine with permitting German-Judaics to reside in Germany peacefully with their communities intact?

    You wrote: “Nor does Hoffman appear to take account of the activities of Jews within Germany over the preceding half-century or so, particularly as Jewish money practices exploited German unification and industrialization…” (End quote)

    And the non-Judaic German usurious bankers— what were they doing in terms of exploitation of the German people? It was mainly Judaic usurers who were culpable?

    In point of fact, Hitler cynically mouthed the rhetoric of the great anti-usury activists before he came to power and then after he became dictator abandoned the movement to abolish interest on debt, which was one of the main reasons the German people voted for him.

    You wrote: “NS endured for ~15 years, it has been all but erased from the face of the earth, physically thru war and culturecide, historically via punishment, censorship and persistent propaganda.” (End quote)

    I disagree. Nazism is alive and well on planet earth. Its capital is Jerusalem and its victims are Palestinians (and the non-Zionist Judaics in whose name Israeli crimes are perpetrated).

    Lastly, I am a German-American with strong ties to the native land of my ancestors, though I cannot visit that land because I’m subject to arrest by the Zionist-occupation government in Berlin because I cannot find it in my conscience to believe that the technology described for the alleged gassing of people in Auschwitz-Birekenau is scientifically possible (cf.“The Great Holocaust Trial”).

    Hitler was among the most wicked enemies of the German people in recorded history. I am not interested in excuses, alibis and whining — only results. The results of his leadership were nearly apocalyptic for Germany, which would have been infinitely better off had the Weimar republic endured. Whether not it would have eventually fallen to Stalin (which I doubt), it would not have lost five millions soldiers and millions of civilians in the years 1939-1947. More importantly, the Germans would not have been branded with the exceedingly destructive psychological baggage of the “Holocaust,” and the Zionist movement would be realizing its dreams in Brooklyn and Miami Beach, rather than Palestine.

    My hope is that a movement for German renaissance will arise cognizant of the fundamentally anti-German nature of the Hitler interregnum, and develop independent of it, with a strong human rights orientation for Germans and all human beings, including the disabled Down syndrome children now being exterminated in Europe and America by neo-Nazi abortionists.

    — Michael Hoffman, Box 849, Coeur d’Alene, Idaho 83816 USA

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  273. Wally says:
    @Michael Hoffman

    said:
    “Hitler was among the most wicked enemies of the German people in recorded history. I am not interested in excuses, alibis and whining — only results. The results of his leadership were nearly apocalyptic for Germany, which would have been infinitely better off had the Weimar republic endured. Whether not it would have eventually fallen to Stalin (which I doubt), it would not have lost five millions soldiers and millions of civilians in the years 1939-1947. More importantly, the Germans would not have been branded with the exceedingly destructive psychological baggage of the “Holocaust,” and the Zionist movement would be realizing its dreams in Brooklyn and Miami Beach, rather than Palestine.”

    Preposterous, not supported by the facts. You present no proof, just talk, and you ignore the fact that war was forced upon Hitler & Germany.
    You also completely ignore the fact that Jews were trying to “brand” the West about their fake ’6,000,000′ since the early 19th century.
    You are the epitome of controlled opposition, a hapless shill.

    recommended:
    The Remarkable Historiography of David Irving: http://www.unz.com/announcement/the-remarkable-historiography-of-david-irving/
    Polish Atrocities against Germans before 1. September 1939

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7525

    Details leading up to war…

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=11383

    ‘Responsibility for WW2′: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7544
    Who started bombing civilians first:Germany or Great Britain: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8172
    Operation Barbarossa Was A Preventive Attack: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7999

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    See the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

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  274. Mulegino1 says:
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    Hitler was among the most wicked enemies of the German people in recorded history. I am not interested in excuses, alibis and whining — only results. The results of his leadership were nearly apocalyptic for Germany, which would have been infinitely better off had the Weimar republic endured. Whether not it would have eventually fallen to Stalin (which I doubt), it would not have lost five millions soldiers and millions of civilians in the years 1939-1947. More importantly, the Germans would not have been branded with the exceedingly destructive psychological baggage of the “Holocaust,” and the Zionist movement would be realizing its dreams in Brooklyn and Miami Beach, rather than Palestine.

    Nice hindsight. Yes, Hitler was a wicked enemy of the German people who took a prosperous and dignified Weimar Republic- under which the German people were flourishing, prosperous and happily employed- and turned the Germans into a starving, demoralized populace. His National Socialist movement converted Berlin, a happy, culturally vibrant and cleanly metropolis into a den of perversion and a worldwide center of prostitution, where women were forced to turn their tricks just in order to keep from starving to death.

    Hitler’s major crime was having lost the war which, for the most part, was forced upon him and Germany by the British War Party, international Jewry and Germanophobic elements in the FDR administration. The war against Germany, covertly and overtly, was primarily a British Imperial project which had begun in earnest when Bismark united the Reich in 1871. The British simply would not brook a continental power strong enough to dictate its own terms to the world and compete with Britain industrially and

    The reality is that the big loser of the war was not only Germany, but Christian Europe. I would daresay that Hitler’s goal of a united “Europe of Nations” would have been far more preferable than the current sodomite worshiping, culturally suicidal EU.

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  275. @Kairos Kagathos

    Kairos Kagathos wrote:

    On the other hand, Michael Hoffmann’s idea that the Talmud would be the evil betrayal of a “good” Old Testament seems false to me. Certainly, the Old Testament reprimands the Hebrews, the Israelites or the Jews unfaithful to Yahveh, but many texts also show that the Goyim deserve extermination, especially in order for the chosen people to take possession of the Land promised by God. Evil, immorality, are already in the Torah.

    Agree.

    Psalm 137 is a core text for not only “Israeli Zionists” but, we are told, all “Judaics”

    If I forget you, Jerusalem,
    may my right hand forget its skill.
    May my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth
    if I do not remember you,
    if I do not consider Jerusalem
    my highest joy.

    Psalm 137 concludes with:

    Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction,
    happy is the one who repays you
    according to what you have done to us.
    Happy is the one who seizes your infants
    and dashes them against the rocks.

    Hoffman’s attempt to separate “Abraham, Isaac and Jacob” from the god of the psalmist, David, is specious.

    Hoffman wrote:

    “Judaism, while being somewhat flawed due to rejecting Jesus, nonetheless manages to be an ethical religion reflective of the prophets of the Old Testament.”

    It’s difficult to discern the ethic of proportionality between destroying a temple and “dashing infants against the rocks.”

    Thomas Jefferson believed Judaism to be (more than) “somewhat flawed” by its nature:

    I should then take a view of the deism and ethics of the Jews, and show in what a degraded state they were, and the necessity they presented of a reformation. I should proceed to
    a view of the life, character, & doctrines of Jesus, who sensible of incorrectness of their ideas of the Deity, and of morality, endeavored to bring them to the principles of a pure deism, and juster notions of the attributes of God, to reform their moral doctrines to the standard of reason, justice & philanthropy, and to inculcate the belief of a future state . . . http://memory.loc.gov/service/mss/mtj/mtj1/028/028_0191_0199.pdf

    and

    Jews. 1. Their system was Deism; that is, the belief of one only God. But their ideas of him & of his attributes were degrading & injurious.
    2. Their Ethics were not only imperfect, but often irreconcilable with the sound dictates of reason & morality, as they respect intercourse with those around us; & repulsive & anti- social, as respecting other nations. They needed reformation, therefore, in an eminent degree.

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  276. Incitatus says:
    @Mulegino1

    “Hitler’s major crime was having lost the war which, for the most part, was forced upon him and Germany by the British War Party, international Jewry and Germanophobic elements in the FDR administration.”

    Please explain exactly how they forced war on Hitler. Be specific. Did they order German troops into the demilitarized Rhineland, Spain, Austria, the Sudetenland, Rump Czechoslovakia and Poland, Denmark, Norway, Luxembourg, Belgium, Netherlands, France, North Africa, Yugoslavia, Greece, Crete, Eastern Poland, the USSR? Force declaration of war on the US?

    “The war against Germany, covertly and overtly, was primarily a British Imperial project which had begun in earnest when Bismark united the Reich in 1871.”

    You mean the Reich created at Versailles after Bismarck invaded and defeated France, enabled the Commune, and occupied Northern France until successfully extorting Alsace-Lorraine and the largest war indemnity of the time [5 billion gold francs: more than dead-beat Germany later paid after WW1]? That Reich?

    If Britain wanted war with Germany, why didn’t it come to the aid of Napoléon III?

    “The British simply would not brook a continental power strong enough to dictate its own terms to the world and compete with Britain industrially and”

    Why should they? Napoléon I, Wilhelm I & II, and Hitler all exhibited an appetite for violent European conquest, upsetting the neighborhood balance of power, and very possibly threatening all involved. Including England. 1066 was an enduring lesson.

    “The reality is that the big loser of the war was not only Germany, but Christian Europe.”

    Christian Europe? You’re really desperate, aren’t you? Why did the Nazis arrest and imprison 700+ Protestant clergy by 1937? Including Bonhoeffer and Niemöller? Why were 2,579 Roman Catholic priests imprisoned at Dachau? What was their crime?

    Let the Führer help:

    “In the long run National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together…The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jews.”
    -Adolf Hitler ‘Table Talk’ 11 July 1941

    “[I have been patient, but] we shan’t be able to go on evading the religious problem…The evil that is gnawing our vitals is our priests, of both creeds…The time will come when I’ll settle my account with them, and I’ll go straight to the point…They’ve only got to keep at it, they’ll hear from me all right. I shan’t let myself be hampered by judicial scruples…In less than ten years from now, things will have quite another look, I can promise them.”
    -Adolf Hitler ‘Table Talk’ 8 Feb 1942

    Golly. “I’ll settle my account with them” doesn’t sound very Christian. Let alone arresting and imprisoning Christian clergy. Unconvinced? Listen to what saviors of ‘Christian Europe’ taught children:

    “Their time has passed, but the priests remain to rob the people of their soul, and whether it is Rome or Luther they are peddling, it’s all Jewish thinking. The time for the cross is now over.”
    -Hitlerjugend Lied June 1935

    Your Nazi ‘saviors of Christian Europe’ mime is utter nonsense. As ridiculous as your necrophilia with the perfumed corpse of Adolf Hitler.

    Best to the Bund

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  277. @Mulegino1

    Thanks, Mulegino1.

    Hoffman’s statement has been fermenting. The response I’ve been conjuring was along the lines of how evil it was of Hitler to have terror-bombed 175 German cities and deliberately incinerated >600,000 German civilians.
    How evil it was of Hitler/Hitlerites to rape 2 million German women.
    etc.
    etc.

    As for Weimar being a better alternative, who would have led a successful Weimar, and when would that high water mark have been achieved? How many more Germans would have starved, been debauched, prostituted along the way?

    Sebastian Hafner’s writings make the case that “it was either Rathenau or Hitler,” and when Rathenau was assassinated, the rise of Hitler was inevitable.

    Moreover, many German Jews were less-than-enamored of Rathenau; books about him are not that plentiful, and Spielberg has not cemented him in the popular imagination.

    Who does Hoffman think would have led Germany? If not Hitler, then who?
    Would Bolsheviks have been successful in pulling Germany into the Communist international?

    Furthermore, Hitler was selected and groomed by FDR associates; namely, Putzi Hanfstaengel, who communicated/collaborated with American foreign service officers in Germany to finance and guide the writing and publication of Main Kampf; to make that book’s way into English publication in USA; to support Hitler financially and psychologically after his failed bid for power. Some have noticed the resemblance between the Harvard — Putzi’s and FDR’s alma mater — Fight cheer and the Sieg Heil salute, and between Harvard bold, red sports banner and the swastika banner.

    I don’t believe the possibility of Germany avoiding a Cartheginian event existed; Germany was marked for destruction years before Hitler’s ascent to the chancellery. Hitler was the equivalent of Saddam Hussein — he was selected and used by the forces who, earlier or later, intended to destroy him and Germany. Charles Lindbergh identified those forces.

    I suspect FDR and Churchill intended to use Stalin in the same way, but Stalin slipped the noose, not so difficult to do inasmuch as FDR’s administration was thoroughly infiltrated by Communists, as Ron Unz outlined here: American Pravda: Our Deadly World of Post-War Politics, and which Benjamin Ginsberg substantiates here: How the Jews Defeated Hitler.

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  278. Mulegino1 says:

    The fact of the matter is this: the foolish guarantee of Britain to Poland was a tripwire for the beginning of the Second World War. Hitler had made very reasonable territorial offers upon the Poles (who themselves benefited from the dismemberment of the artificial state of Czechoslovakia by annexing the Teschen region). All of Hitler’s offers to the Poles were summarily rejected and it was the Poles who first mobilized and threatened war with Germany, not the other way around.

    The British, whose empire at the time covered something like a quarter of the world’s land surface, cynically promised the Poles military assistance which they knew that they could not provide- Poland was a sacrificial lamb of the British war party and FDR’s roving ambassador William Bullit, who in turn assured the British government that the US would eventually become involved in the European conflict.

    By declaring war on Germany for what was in essence a Polish-German territorial war, France and Britain started the Second World War.

    The British planned to occupy neutral Norway and use the Netherlands and Belgium for the movement of British troops in an offensive against Germany. What were the Germans to do? They simply preempted the invasion with an invasion of their own.

    Most of Hitler’s “Table Talk” consists of free inventions and wild exaggerations.

    The massive Allied bombing campaign wreaked far more destruction upon both the Christian peoples of Europe and their magnificent cultural landmarks than anything the Germans did. None of the clergymen you reference were incarcerated because of their religious affiliation, but because of what was perceived as subversive political activity.

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  279. Incitatus says:
    @Mulegino1

    “the foolish guarantee of Britain to Poland was a tripwire for the beginning of the Second World War”

    Why did Hitler cross it? Why did he earlier promise Sudetenland would be his last territorial demand? And violate that oath six months later invading Rump Czechoslovakia? Then invade Poland (violating his 1934 treaty)? Give us a clue.

    ”By declaring war on Germany for what was in essence a Polish-German territorial war, France and Britain started the Second World War.”

    You admit there was a “tripwire”, then excuse Germany for crossing it, then blame Britain for honoring it, then cast Britain as the father of WW2. Simple question. Do you beat your wife? Is it her fault?

    No, of course not. You don’t have a wife. Full stop.

    “Most of Hitler’s “Table Talk” consists of free inventions and wild exaggerations”

    Prove it. Sources please.

    “The massive Allied bombing campaign wreaked far more destruction upon both the Christian peoples of Europe and their magnificent cultural landmarks…”

    True indeed. Take Kölner Dom. Actually survived (thankfully), but not much of Cologne did.

    Speaking of “magnificent cultural landmarks”, any tears for Notre-Dame de Reims, first burned then used for target practice (300+ shells) by Germans in 1914?

    “None of the clergymen you reference were incarcerated because of their religious affiliation, but because of what was perceived as subversive political activity.”

    Kindly document their “subversive political activity.” Take your time.

    Keep in mind your proposition involved Nazi defense of “Christian Europe” while Hitler condemned Christianity and Bolshevism as “inventions of the Jews”. Taught children “the time for the cross is now over.” Couldn’t wait to settle scores with Christian clergy. Why? Was he defending ‘Christian Europe’ or coveting absolute power?

    You aren’t a contortionist by any chance? If so, try another profession.

    PS. Asked Wally, but he’s silent. Maybe you and S2C can help:

    On 14 Jul 1933 Nazis enacted the Law for the Prevention of Genetically Diseased Offspring (Gesetz zur Verhütung erbkranken Nachwuchses). It required compulsory sterilization of citizens suffering from hereditary diseases and deformities. Why wasn’t clubfoot Joe Göbbels sterilized?

    Best to Wally, S2C and the boys. Keep up the payments on the Mercedes cabriolet.

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  280. RobinG says:
    @Incitatus

    “Do you beat your wife? Is it her fault?
    No, of course not. You don’t have a wife. Full stop.”

    But if his mother isn’t a Hitler apologist, it’s her own fault when Mulie breaks her arm.

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  281. j2 says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Agreed. It is all already in Torah. Joseph does usury, Jacob cheats, blood sacrifices are there, the promise of ruling the world and destroying or enslaving all others is there. Talmud is a clarification of Torah, it is not changing the meaning.

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  282. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    - Why? Seriously?
    Hitler wanted German land back, which was demanded long before the Sudetenland matter. And Hitler wanted to stop the brutal attacks on Germans in Poland seized Germany.

    Polish Atrocities against Germans before 1. September 1939

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7525

    Details leading up to war…

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=11383

    Tellingly, Britain & France did not declare war on the communist USSR which invaded from the east and took 60% of Poland.
    They also ignored Poland’s seizure of part of Czechoslovakia.
    They ignored the USSR invasions of Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Iran, and invasion & annexation parts of Romania

    - Table Talk?
    Genoud, Heim & Picker’s Hitler’s “Table Talk”: A Study in Academic Fraud & Scandal
    Veronica Clark

    https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/9/3/4880

    - “Notre-Dame de Reims”?
    Now Incitatus want’s to talk about World War ONE propaganda. The bayoneted Belgian babies will no doubt be next. LOL

    - As for the old Zionist canard that Hitler was seeking “absolute power”, just look at a 1930s map of the world and see who really had “absolute power”.

    - As for the “Law for the Prevention of Genetically Diseased Offspring / Gesetz zur Verhütung erbkranken Nachwuchses”. Yawn. So what? An excellent law. There were / are many laws worldwide against marrying direct family members due genetic deformity potential. Deformities which can be very horrible.

    Now, more of what Incitatus wants to ignore:

    ‘Some Technical and Chemical Considerations about the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz and Birkenau’
    by Master Chemist Germar Rudolf: http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndgcger.html
    Lectures on the Holocaust / Controversial Issues Cross Examined : https://codoh.com/library/document/1196/?lang=en
    Dissecting the Holocaust—The Growing Critique of ‘Truth’ and ‘Memory’: http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=1

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  283. Mulegino1 says:
    @Incitatus

    Why did Hitler cross it? Why did he earlier promise Sudetenland would be his last territorial demand? And violate that oath six months later invading Rump Czechoslovakia? Then invade Poland (violating his 1934 treaty)? Give us a clue.

    International statecraft does not involve fixed promises or oaths; it involves acting upon perceived interests (in Hitler’s case, the defense of German national interests) according to circumstances in the immediate present. Once Slovakia got its independence and the Sudetenland was annexed, Czechia was an indefensible rump state- as you point out. Its existence did pose a threat to Germany in the sense that, had it remained independent it could have served as a Soviet salient aimed like a dagger at the heart of Germany. The annexation and occupation of Bohemia and Moravia was a necessary step for the defense of Germany, and by all accounts, a rather benign one. Hacha, the Czech president, remained in office until the end of the war and there was very little oppression, relatively speaking- until the British engineered assassination of Reinhard Heydrich, the second Protector of Bohemia and Moravia. Heydrich was more popular among the Czechs than establishment history has given him credit for. The assassination brought down reprisals on Lidice, but such things are to be expected in wartime.

    You admit there was a “tripwire”, then excuse Germany for crossing it, then blame Britain for honoring it, then cast Britain as the father of WW2. Simple question. Do you beat your wife? Is it her fault?

    How did Britain honor it? How many square inches of Polish territory were liberated by the British or French- or Americans for that matter? Where were the howls of outrage and declarations of war forthcoming from these champions of Polish independence when the Soviet Union invaded Poland a few weeks after the outbreak of war?

    Read one of the following books and get back to me: “The Origins of the Second World War” by AJP Taylor; “The Forced War” by David Hoggan; “The War that Had Many Fathers: The Long Run up to the Second World War” by Gerd Schutze-Ronholf”; “Hitler’s War” by David Irving.

    Hitler was not a saint or a boy scout, but the further one digs deep into history, he compares more and more favorably to his allied counterparts, whose crimes against humanity dwarf anything realistically imputed to the Third Reich.

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  284. anonymous[465] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mulegino1

    There you go again, confusing Incie the Horsie with facts and sources.

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  285. @Mulegino1

    +1

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  286. @SolontoCroesus

    To: @j2

    You inserted a box in which you ascribe to this writer the following statement:

    “Judaism, while being somewhat flawed due to rejecting Jesus, nonetheless manages to be an ethical religion reflective of the prophets of the Old Testament.”

    Here’s what I actually wrote:

    “Christians and many other goyim (gentiles) have been deluded into imagining that Judaism, while being somewhat flawed due to rejecting Jesus, nonetheless manages to be an ethical religion reflective of the prophets of the Old Testament.”

    What you claim I believe about Judaism is what I described as a >delusion< about Judaism in the very sentence which you only partially quoted.

    You did not insert an ellipsis to show you were citing a sentence fragment. Instead, you deceptively gave the impression that my sentence began with the word "Judaism."

    Michael Hoffman

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  287. @Michael Hoffman

    You are correct, of course, and I apologize.

    Your complete statement was:

    Christians and many other goyim (gentiles) have been deluded into imagining that Judaism, while being somewhat flawed due to rejecting Jesus, nonetheless manages to be an ethical religion reflective of the prophets of the Old Testament. Hillel, the first century A.D. Pharisee who is believed to have been a contemporary of Jesus, and Moses Maimonides (“Rambam”), the medieval philosopher and theologian, are most often held up as exemplars of this supposed ethical Judaism.

    If “Hillel,. . . and Moses Maimonides (“Rambam”)” are not the “exemplars of . . . ethical Judaism,” then who is?

    In his introduction, The Saker wrote:

    “. . . all modern Judaic denomination are descendants of the sect of the Pharisees; furthermore, this religion is dramatically different from the religion of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob . . .

    Do you agree with Saker’s assessment?

    Does that mean that the “religion of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob” no longer exists?
    If that is the case, when you wrote,

    You mentioned “organized Jewry.” I don’t see myself as taking on “Jewry” per se. Orthodox Judaism, yes. Israeli Zionism, yes. But since both of those institutions are at their core fundamentally anti-Judaic, I view my work as an expression of love for Judaic people and as a conduit for their liberation.

    to whom were you referring? Who speaks for, or represents, or leads the “Judaics” of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?

    —-

    Allan C. Brownfeld of the American Council for Judaism is frequently relied upon to present moderate Jewish discourse, by opposition groups such as WRMEA I’ve spoken with Brownfeld, including a statement very similar to your own: “I cannot find it in my conscience to believe that the technology described for the alleged gassing of people in Auschwitz-Birekenau is scientifically possible (cf.“The Great Holocaust Trial”).” Brownfeld turned his back on me in disgust.

    Another commenter linked an article by Uri Avnery, ARE YOU BRAINWASHED? Avnery’s argument hinges on statement about Nazi propaganda:

    For example, the Nazi “propaganda”. It was invented by Adolf Hitler himself. In his book, “Mein Kampf”, he describes how, as a soldier on the Western front in WWI, he witnessed the extremely successful British propaganda. The British dropped leaflets over the German trenches and shattered the soldiers’ confidence in their leadership.
    When Hitler came to power in Germany, he entrusted one of his faithful henchmen, Joseph Goebbels, with the creation of a Ministry of Propaganda. Goebbels turned propaganda into an art form. Among other means he turned all the German media – newspapers and the radio – into government agencies. In German that was called “Gleichschaltung” – connecting all components to one electric line. Thanks to this, Nazi Germany continued fighting long after it was clear that it had lost WWII.
    One of the means was the disconnection of the German public from any other source of information. The official propaganda was blared from every medium. Listening to a foreign broadcast was a major crime, punished severely.
    Thus it happened that the Germans still believed in their final victory – the Endsieg – even after the Soviets in the East and the Anglo-Saxons in the West had already crossed the borders into Germany.

    But Allies dropped leaflets: in The Ritchie Boys,” former RB Guy Stern relates how he and others of his colleagues composed and distributed leaflets. The Ritchie Boys were some 2,500 German Jews who left Germany in the mid-1930s and became members of US military, trained at Fort Ritchie, MD to infiltrate, spy upon, attempt to subvert (cause to surrender) and interrogate German POWs.

    The German people may have been bombarded with highly artistic happy-talk from Goebbels’ office, but they were also bombarded with firestorms that incinerated 600,000 of their fellows, de-housing 7 million of them. Goebbels’ propaganda could not disguise the realities that reduced 75% of Germany to rubble.

    Moreover, toward the end of the video of Rabbi Bar-Hayim that Saker posted, Bar-Hayim says:
    beginning ~ 1:34,

    “. . . in Gaza, there are no innocent civilians, they all voted for Hamas, they all share the same evil ideology which is murder, destruction, extermination, destroying the Jewish people, destroying the Torah, and bringing, as Winston Churchill said, a monstrous tyranny to the world. That is their aim, their expressed aim. Such civilians, so-called civilians, aren’t really civilians. Because these people truly believe in these goals and aims. And . . .they support the war effort . . . they send their children to blow themselves up on busses. . . . That is a truly . . .evil society. It’s a civilization based on death — death, blood, destruction and hatred. . . . Such people are worthy of death simply because of the views they espouse and the actions they take on a daily basis . . ..
    In that situation, carpet bomb the lot of them. That is the correct response. . . . Line up a few hundred artillery pieces on the border with Gaza and give the order to start firing. For how long? A month, two. . . . It’s also much cheaper than missiles.
    Bomb them, destroy them so utterly that they’ll never dare to do anything to you again. That is what the British and Americans . . . and Russians did to the Germans [and] Japanese, because that was the correct response; that was entirely correct and moral; that was the only way to defeat evil. That is the position of the Torah, and any other position is not only not practical and not efficient when it comes to winning and achieving victory, it is actually immoral. It supports evil in the world and allows it to continue. And there is nothing more immoral than that.”

    Then @ 1:41,

    “[This explains why we act the way we act . . .] We should remind the Americans how they acted when they confronted enemies . . . the fact that we remain silent . . . we exude weakness, we lack moral conviction in our own just cause by constantly saying that we want peace with these people; why on earth would you want to make peace with the epitome of evil?”

    The point in all of this is that holocaustism is the core, unassailable creed of the most rabid of rabbinic pharisees as well as of moderate Judaics. They cannot tear themselves away from the holocaust narrative, and the same tragic obsession and delusions afflict American foreign policy.

    Michael Ledeen persuaded me that zionist Jews set in motion the events that they well knew would result in the deaths of at least hundreds of thousands of Eastern European Jews.

    Yes, Louis Brandeis and Rabbi Stephen Wise directed that “all Jews must leave Germany . . . all 587,000 of them . . .” Look it up. It’s an entire other conversation.

    PS Abraham is not my father.

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  288. You wrote:

    If “Hillel…and Moses Maimonides (“Rambam” )” are not the “exemplars of…ethical Judaism,” then who is?

    Hillel is a founder, and Maimonides a leading halachic exponent, of a Talmudic religion called Orthodox Judaism, which nullifies the Bible.

    Next you ask:

    “Does that mean that the “religion of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob’ no longer exists?”

    I wonder if you have heard of someone by the name of Jesus Christ, who asserted that the Pharisees did not have Abraham as their father? (John 8).

    When He announced this truth was Jesus then stuck with the existential dilemma of heading a religion in which Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were absent?

    To imagine that because impostors burlesque the Old Testament faith that it then follows that the faith itself is extinguished, is a non-sequitur.

    It would seem to be a matter of common knowledge that Jesus taught that the religion of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob was continued in Him and His Gospel.

    Have you ever heard of something called Christianity, which ruled the West for fifteen hundred years and has a formal theological system marked by councils (like Nicea) and system-builders (such as Chrysostom, Augustine, Aquinas) who all taught that Christianity was the religion of the whole Bible, from Abraham to Moses to David to Jesus?

    Perhaps you are a Hindu with an Internet connection in some tiny village north of Benares where news of Jesus and knowledge of Christianity has not yet reached you. If so, then you have my pity.

    You quote The Saker as follows:

    “ …all modern Judaic denominations are descendants of the sect of the Pharisees; furthermore, this religion is dramatically different from the religion of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. ”

    — And you ask if I agree with his statement.

    I did a lengthy interview with The Saker and you still don’t know whether I agree with the statement or not?

    Surely you jest.

    And until you become somewhat more lucid, or somewhat less sardonic, I bid you adieu.

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  289. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    “Hitler wanted German land back, which was demanded long before the Sudetenland matter.”

    Comprehension skills not what they used to be? Know the feeling.

    Review the question: “Why did he [Hitler] promise Sudetenland would be his last territorial demand? And violate that oath six months later invading Rump Czechoslovakia? Then invade Poland (violating his 1934 treaty)? Give us a clue.”

    Well?

    One can “want” many things. The term for demanding them at gunpoint and pulling the trigger is murder. On the international level it’s called Conspiracy Against Peace and Launching Aggressive War.

    “Now Incitatus want’s to talk about World War ONE propaganda. The bayoneted Belgian babies will no doubt be next. LOL”

    The destruction of Reims in 1914 – the Cathedral and 75+% of the city – is well documented. Not propaganda.

    Nineteen years rebuilding was required to reopen the cathedral in 1938. Funded by Rockefellers, not deadbeat Germany. Restoration continues. Other parts of France weren’t as lucky – e.g. Verdun in 1916, regions (towns, churches, bridges, orchards) destroyed by Ludendorff in scorched-earth Unternahmen Alberich, which expelled 150,000 civilians and transported them to work in occupied territory in 1917.

    Neutral Belgium? No need to invent bayoneted babies. The sack of Leuven (25 Aug 1914) is a good example of genuine policy. Germans fired the famous 300,000 volume medieval library with incendiary pellets and gasoline, killed 248 residents, destroyed 2,000 civilian dwellings and expelled the entire population (10,000). Why, Wally? Leuven lacked strategic value.

    85,700 Belgian civilians died in WW1. Roughly the same percentage (1.16%) as German civilians (1.18%). Difference? 23,700 of the Belgians were murdered for preemptory effect or reprisal. The balance died from famine or exposure after their houses burned.

    “As for the “Law for the Prevention of Genetically Diseased Offspring / Gesetz zur Verhütung erbkranken Nachwuchses”. Yawn. So what? An excellent law. There were / are many laws worldwide against marrying direct family members due genetic deformity potential. Deformities which can be very horrible. Now, more of what Incitatus wants to ignore…”

    Back-up [beep-beep-beep] Wally. You ignored the question. “It required compulsory sterilization of citizens suffering from hereditary diseases and deformities. Why wasn’t clubfoot Joe Göbbels sterilized?

    Well?

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  290. Mulegino1 says:

    One can “want” many things. The term for demanding them at gunpoint and pulling the trigger is murder. On the international level it’s called Conspiracy Against Peace and Launching Aggressive War.

    Correction: It’s called “Conspiracy Against Peace and Launching Aggressive War” if done by Germany, Japan, Iraq, Serbia, etc. If done by the U.S., Great Britain, or Israel it is called “liberation”, “spreading democracy” or “establishing a homeland” respectively.

    Neutral Belgium? No need to invent bayoneted babies.

    The British propagandists sure perceived the need to do so.

    Nineteen years rebuilding was required to reopen the cathedral in 1938. Funded by Rockefellers, not deadbeat Germany.

    Germany had no moral obligation to rebuild anything, since it did not bear primary responsibility for the start of the First World War. Besides, what the German people suffered under the Versailles “peace regime” and the ruinous and usurious reparations payments more than compensated for any alleged or fictitious German atrocities, which were dwarfed by the British hunger blockade which was responsible for up to a million German civilian deaths, and which was continued long after Germany had surrendered.

    Now if you want to talk about the destruction of cultural and historical art and architecture on a massive scale, start with the RAF and the USAAF whose barbarity and vandalism knew no bounds, including the destruction by fire of entire German cities.

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  291. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    Germany demanded their land back from Poland long before the Sudetenland matter.
    said:
    “The destruction of Reims in 1914 – the Cathedral and 75+% of the city – is well documented. Not propaganda.”‘Wow at church was damaged in a war. Not exactly unique. LOL

    Still talking about WWI. Belgian babies must be next. LOL

    said:
    “Belgians were murdered for preemptory effect or reprisal. The balance died from famine or exposure after their houses burned. ”

    You lack of proof is noted. LOL

    I have no idea what caused Goebbels foot problem. Yawn.

    How about showing us the alleged millions of human remain that Jew claim still exist in known locations.

    How about telling us how the scientifically impossible ‘gas chambers’ worked.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    See the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

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  292. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    The only intelligible part of your post is “LOL”, the kind of nervous chatter perverts mutter in custody. Example:

    “I have no idea what caused Goebbels foot problem. Yawn.”

    That wasn’t the question. Your previous response [#282]:

    “the Law for the Prevention of Genetically Diseased Offspring / Gesetz zur Verhütung erbkranken Nachwuchses…An excellent law. There were/are many laws worldwide against marrying direct family members due genetic deformity potential. Deformities which can be very horrible.”

    Remember?

    This was the question:

    “It [Nazi law – the one you call “excellent”] required compulsory sterilization of citizens suffering from hereditary diseases and deformities. Why wasn’t clubfoot Joe Göbbels sterilized?

    Well? [third request]

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  293. Incitatus says:
    @Mulegino1

    “Correction: It’s called “Conspiracy Against Peace and Launching Aggressive War” if done by Germany, Japan, Iraq, Serbia, etc. If done by the U.S., Great Britain, or Israel it is called “liberation”, “spreading democracy” or “establishing a homeland” respectively”

    My, my. “Germany, Japan, Iraq, Serbia, etc.” All lumped together. Desperate to exonerate Hitler (when Germans, who should know best have decided otherwise)?

    Post 1953 I agree on US adventurism (called for indictments 9/11 and Iraq 2003). But didn’t Hitler declare war on the US 11 Dec ’41? What choice did FDR have? Surrender?

    Of course, that’s not what you’re after. You’re deep in love (some might call it necrophilia) with Hitler. Not surprising. After all, you think JS Bach “Gothic” because you think he was unassuming (a false image that assuages your anonymity). JS Bach, with a large family, did everything he could to attract patrons. Sorry.

    Most honor JS Bach for the cerebral (French and English Suites, Concertos) and cathartic (St-Matthew Passion). He’s peerless. But there are many, many others (Gluck, Monteverdi, Purcell, Louis Couperin, Rameau, etc.) More recently Gershwin, Copland, Bernstein, Adams, Górecki, etc. Jazz? Edith Piaf, Billy Holiday, Benny Goodman, Jack Teagarden, etc. Who cares about race or politics? You politicize music without understanding it. AJM was right.

    “Germany had no moral obligation to rebuild anything…”

    Germany destroyed Belgium and Northern France. It signed Versailles, including reparations for damage caused. Never paid. But you’re right. There was an obligation signed by Germany, but it’s leaders had no morality.

    “[Germany] did not bear primary responsibility for the start of the First World War.”

    Who mobilized troops and invaded neighbors? Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia 28 Jul 1914 and shelled Belgrade the following day. Germany declared war on Russia 1 Aug 1914 and invaded Luxembourg the following day. They invaded neutral Belgium 3 days later.

    Who gave the orders Mulegino1? Who had “primary responsibility”? Give us hint.

    “Now if you want to talk about the destruction of cultural and historical art and architecture on a massive scale, start with the RAF and the USAAF whose barbarity and vandalism knew no bounds, including the destruction by fire of entire German cities.”

    Tragic indeed. There is no excuse for war (God forgive us). You never mention precedents in “barbarity and vandalism”. Why?

    Take the evening of 14 Nov 1940, when 515 Luftwaffe bombers mounted a night attack on Coventry code named Operation Mondscheinsonate. They dropped 1400 high explosive bombs and 100,000 incendiaries (magnesium and petroleum) to create a firestorm that consumed 50,000 buildings, killed 568 people, and badly injured another 863.

    Is Coventry “barbarity and vandalism”, a cappella? The Luftwaffe did its best. An example Brits absorbed and served up to perpetrators years later. Is the only “barbarity and vandalism” suffered by those who launched war? The same thugs that exposed – and delivered – total defeat to ordinary Germans? Just like WW1 nitwits von Moltke, Falkenhayn, Ludendorff, Hindenburg?

    Give us a hint.

    PS. Give a ‘shout-out’ to Wally, who’s busy thinking about why Clubfoot Joe Göbbels wasn’t sterilized under the “Law for the Prevention of Genetically Diseased Offspring” (Gesetz zur Verhütung erbkranken Nachwuchses). The third attempt for a rational spam-free answer. Please unlock his mind freeze. Feel free to offer an explanation.

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