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If the first months of 2017 were a time of great hopes following the historical defeat of Hillary Clinton, the year is ending in a sombre, almost menacing manner. Not only has the swamp easily, quickly and totally drowned Trump, but the AngloZionist Empire is reeling from its humiliating defeat in Syria and the Neocons are now treating our entire planet to a never ending barrage of threats. Furthermore, the Trump Administration now has released a National Security Strategy which clearly show that the Empire is in “full paranoid” mode. It is plainly obvious that the Neocons are now back in total control of the White House, Congress and the US corporate media. Okay, maybe things are still not quite as bad as if Hillary had been elected, but they are bad enough to ask whether a major war is now inevitable next year.

If we go by their rhetoric, the Neocons have all the following countries in their sights:

  1. Afghanistan (massive surge already promised)
  2. Syria (threats of a US-Israeli-KSA attack; attack on Iranian and Hezbollah forces in Syria)
  3. Russia (disconnecting from SWIFT; stealing Russian assets in the US; attack on Russian forces in Syria)
  4. Iran (renege on nuclear deal, attack Iranian forces in Syria)
  5. The Donbass (support for a full scale Ukronazi attack against Novorussia)
  6. DPRK (direct and overt military aggression; aerial and naval blockade)
  7. Venezuela (military intervention “in defense of democracy, human rights, freedom and civilization”)

There are, of course, many more countries currently threatened by the US to various degrees, but the seven above are all good candidates for US aggression.

Let me immediately say here that listing pragmatic arguments against such aggression is, at this point in time, probably futile. If anything, the recent disaster triggered by the US recognition of Jerusalem clearly proves that the US is run by people as least as stupid and ignorant as they are evil and arrogant, possibly even more so. The sad reality we now live in is one where a nuclear superpower lack the minimal intelligence needed to act in defense of its own national security interests, and that is really frightening.

Last week I took a look at the mindset of what I called the “ideological drone“. If we now look at the mindset of the US national security establishment we will immediately notice that it is almost exactly the same as that of the ideological drone. The biggest difference between them might be that the ideological drone assumes that his/her leaders are sane and mostly honest people, whereas those in the elites not only know that they are total hypocrites and liars, but they actually see this as a sign superiority: the drones believes in his/her ideology, but his rulers believe in absolutely nothing.

Take the example of Syria. All the US decision makers are fully aware of the following facts:

  1. Daesh/ISIS/al-Nusra/etc is their creation and they tried everything to save these terrorists.
  2. The joint Russian-Iranian-Hezbollah effort defeated Daesh/ISIS/al-Nusra/etc in-spite of AngloZionist support and attacks on Syrian forces.
  3. The AngloZionist forces are in Syria completely illegally.

Yet none of that prevents them from claiming that they, not Russia, defeated Daesh/ISIS/al-Nusra/etc. This is absolutely amazing, think of it – the entire planet knows full well what really took place in Syria, but Uncle Sam decrees that black is white, water is dry and what is true is false. And the most amazing thing is that they know that everybody knows, yet they don’t care one bit. Why? Because they profoundly believe in four fundamental things:

  1. We can buy anybody
  2. Those we cannot buy, we bully
  3. Those we cannot bully we kill
  4. Nothing can happen to us, we live in total impunity not matter what we do

Besides people with intelligence there is another type of person who has completely disappeared from the US national security establishment: someone with honor/courage/integrity. Let’s take a perfect example: Tillerson.

There is no way we can make the argument that Tillerson is an idiot. The man has proven many times over that he is intelligent and quite talented. And yet, he is Nikki Haley’s doormat. Nikki Haley – there is the real imbecile! But not Tillerson. Yet Tillerson lacks the basic honor/courage/integrity to demand that this terminal imbecile be immediately fired or, if that does not happen, to leave and slam the door really loud. Nope, the man just sits there and takes humiliation after humiliation. Oh sure, he will probably resign soon, but when his resignation comes it will have no value, it will be a non-event, just the sad and pathetic conclusion to a completely failed stint as Secretary of State.

The same goes for the US military: not one single officer has found in himself/herself to resign to protest the fact that the US is deeply in bed with those who are responsible, at least according to the official conspiracy theory, for 9/11. Nope, in fact US special forces are working with al-Qaeda types day in and day out and not a single one of these “patriots” has the honor/courage/integrity to go public about it.

Imbeciles and cowards. I also happen to think that they are traitors to their country and their people. Patriots they are not.

Delusional imbeciles giving orders and dishonorable cowards mindlessly executing them. That is the setup we are dealing with. As Trump would tweet “not good”.

Alas, this is also a very hard combo to deter or to try to reason with.

And yet, somewhere, to some degree, these guys must know that the odds are not in their favor. For one thing, an endless stream of military defeats and political embarrassments ought to strongly suggest to them that inaction is generally preferable to action, especially for clueless people. Furthermore, one simple way to look at risks is to say that risks are a factor of probability times consequences: R = P x C.

I don’t think that US decision-makers actually formally think that way, but on a gut level this is rather straightforward, even for ideological drone types. If we assume that this is the case, we can now revisit our 7 countries listed above as seen by Neocon decision makers (not me! I already outlined how I saw the risks of attacking these countries in this article written this summer):

Possible/likely consequences Probability Risk
Afghanistan (surge) more body bags high low
Syria (military intervention & attack on Iranian and Hezbollah forces in Syria) Iranian & Hezbollah counter-attacks high high
Russia 1 (economic attack: SWIFT & theft of assets)Russia 2 (shooting of Russian aircraft in Syria) non-military responsemilitary response highmedium unknownfor memedium
Iran (renege on nuclear deal) non-military response high low
Donbass (US backed attack on Novorussia) Russian intervention medium low
DPRK (attack; blockade) Nuclear war in Asia unknown unknown
Venezuela (direct military intervention) quagmire high high

A couple of points here:

Afghanistan: is rather straightforward and least controversial: there will be a surge in Afghanistan, it will result in more body bags, it will achieve nothing, cost a shitload and nobody cares.

Syria: very tempting, but the big risk is this: that US forces will find themselves face to face with Iranian and Hezbollah forces who have been dreaming about this day for decades and who will make maximal political use of the US forces they will capture or kill. Frankly, to engage either the Iranians or Hezbollah is a very scary option. Ask the Israelis :-)

Russia option 1: rumors that the US would disconnect Russia from SWIFT or steal (that is politely called “freeze”) Russian assets and funds in the US have been going in for a long time already. And the Russians have been making all sorts of menacing noises about this, but all of them very vague which tells me that Russia might not have any good retaliatory options and that this time around the hot air is blowing from Moscow. Of course, Putin is a unpredictable master strategist and the folks around him are very, very smart. They might hold something up their sleeve which I am not aware of but I strongly suspect that, unlike me, the US intelligence community must be fully aware of what this might be. I am not an economist and there is much I don’t know here, I therefore assessed the risk as “unknown” for me.

Russia option 2: the reaction of Russia to the shooting down by Turkey of a SU-24 in 2015 might well have given the US politicians and commanders a feeling that they could do the same and get away with it. In truth, they might be right. But they might also be wrong. The big difference with the case of the SU-24 is that Russia has formidable air-defenses deployed in Syria which present a major threat for US forces. Furthermore, if a Russian aircraft is under attack and the Russians reply by firing a volley of ground-to-air missiles, what would the US do – attack a Russian S-400 battery? The US is also in a tricky situation in an air-to-air confrontation. While the F-22 is an excellent air superiority fighter it has one huge weakness: it is designed to engage its adversaries from a long range and to shoot first, before it is detected (I mention only the F-22 here because it is the only US aircraft capable of challenging the Su-30SM/Su-35). But if the rules of engagement say that before firing at a Russian aircraft the F-22 has to issue a clear warning or if the engagement happens at medium to short range distances, then the F-22 is at a big disadvantage, especially against a Su-30SM or Su-35. Another major weakness of the F-22 is that, unlike the Su-30/Su-35, it does not have a real electronic warfare suite (the F-22’s INEWS does not really qualify). In plain English this means that the F-22 was designed to maximize its low radar cross section but at a cost of all other aspects of aerial warfare (radar power, hypermaneuverability, electronic warfare, passive engagement, etc.). This all gets very technical and complicated very fast, but I think that we can agree that the Neocons are unlikely to be very impressed by the risks posed by Russian forces in Syria and that they will likely feel that they can punch the russkies in the nose and that these russkies will have to take it. Local US commanders might feel otherwise, but that is also entirely irrelevant. Still, I place the risk here at ‘medium’ even if, potentially, this could lead to a catastrophic thermonuclear war because I don’t think that the Neocons believe that the Russians will escalate too much (who starts WWIII over one shot down aircraft anyway, right?!). Think of it: if you were the commander of the Russian task force in Syria, what would you do if the US shot down on of your aircraft (remember, you assume that you are a responsible and intelligent commander, not a flag-waving delusional maniac)?

ORDER IT NOW

What will not stop is the full-spectrum demonization of Russia, thus the relationship between the two countries will further deteriorate. Putin’s Russia is a kind of Mordor which represents all evil and stands behind all evil. Denouncing and openly hating Russia has now become a form of virtue-signaling. Since the entire US political elites have endorsed this phobia, it is exceedingly unlikely to change in the foreseeable future.

Iran: Trump has announced that he wants out of the deal and while technically and legally he cannot do that, it’s not like he will care one bit. The US has long given up any pretense at respecting any kind of law, including international law. Also, since Trump is clearly Israel’s shabbos-goy I think that we can safely assume that this will happen.

Donbass: will the Ukronazis finally attack? Well, they have been for many months already! Not only did they never stop shelling the Donbass, but they have this new “frog-jump” (pseudo) strategy which consists of moving in military forces in the neutral zone, seize an undefended town and then declare a major victory against Russia. They have also been re-arming, re-organizing, re-grouping and otherwise bolstering their forces in the East. As a result, the Urkonazis have at least 3:1 advantage against the Novorussians. However, we should not look at this from the Ukronazi or Novorussian point of view. Instead we should look at it from the Neocon point of view:

Possible outcomes US reactions
Option one: Ukronazis win Russia is defeated, US proves its power
Option two: Novorussians win Russia is accused of invading the Ukraine
Option three: Novorussians lose and Russia openly intervenes A Neocon dream come true: the NATO has a purpose again:decades of Cold War v2 in Europe.

The way I see it, in all three cases the AngloZionist prevail though clearly option #2 is the worst possible outcome and option #3 is the best one. In truth, the AngloZionists have very little to lose in a Ukronazi attack on Novorussia. Not so the Ukrainian people, of course. Right now the US and several European countries are shipping various types of weapons to the Ukronazis. That is really a non-news since they have been doing that for years already. Furthermore, western made weapons won’t make any difference, at least from a military point of view, if only because it will always be much easier for Russia to send more weapons in any category. The real difference is a political one: shipping “lethal weapons” (as if some weapons were not lethal!) is simply a green light to go on the attack. Let’s hope that the Urkonazis will be busy fighting each other and that their previous humiliating defeat will deter them from trying again, but I consider a full-scale Urkonazi attack on the Donbass as quite likely.

DPRK: that is the big unknown here. With some opponents, you know for an absolute fact that their people will fight down to the very last man if needed (Iranians, Russians, Hezbollah). But authoritarian regimes tend to have a pretty low breaking point unless, of course, they convince their own people that they are not fighting for a specific political regime, but for their country. I think that nobody knows for sure what the North Koreans will do if attacked, but I see no sign to simply assume that the North Koreans won’t fight. From what I hear, the memories of the ruthless attacks against North Koreans by US forces during the previous war on the Korean Peninsula are still very very real. Here is what an intelligence officer in the region wrote to me recently:

The Trump Administration’s bluster is pathetic. If this were a movie, and not real life, it would be funny (it’s still funny, but being in *******, I don’t fully appreciate it). The sad thing is that central casting couldn’t create a better foil for NK propaganda: in every way, including physically, he fits their caricature of the evil, imperial arch-capitalist Yankee businessman. It’d be like if Hitler came back to life and off-handedly threatened to destroy the US every other day (and had the capability to do so).

If this specialist is correct, and I have no reason to believe that he is not, then it is quite reasonable to assume that the possible dislike the North Korean people might have for their ruling elites is dwarfed by their hatred for the United States.

[Sidebar: he also had some interesting comments about my own assessment of the consequences of a war on the Korean Peninsula. Here is what he wrote to me:

Japan is a major target, for a number of reasons. The biggest is that there are a lot of US bases there that would be used to bring-in additional US troops/direct the war, but there’s also the fact that North Korea (and most South Koreans, actually), straight-up hates Japan. I won’t go into a history lesson (which you probably already know), but there is no love lost. Even if the war was confined to the Peninsula, which it won’t be, the global economy would take a major hit, because a ridiculous amount of global supply chain runs through South Korea (which on its own, bounces between the 15th and 10th largest economy in the world). Off the top of my head, I think Incheon (just west of Seoul) is the busiest airport in at least the region – it’s a major international hub, and Busan and Incheon are some of the busiest ports in the world – I want to say Busan is top 5, even busier than the Japanese ports. All the Chinese goods that go to America flow through the Sea of Japan – those will have to be re-routed. And a lot of the components that go in fancy electronics are actually made in SK, prior to final assembly in China – so that will be an issue. So even if we’re the only ones to go down, it’ll be bad news for the global economy. Your assessment of the artillery and special forces threat mirrors mine. One of the things I always thought was funny was how people disparage “World War 2 artillery.” As a whole, “World War 2 artillery” has probably killed more people than any weapon system in modern history (unless you say something really general like “knife” or “gun”). It’s not like you’ll be any less dead if your house is hit with a 152 as opposed to a J-DAM.]

And here is the deal, if you attack a small and defenseless country you can basically ignore the consequences of making the wrong guess, but when dealing with a country like the DPRK this is a miscalculation which no sane politician or military commander would ever take the risk of making. But delusional imbeciles giving and dishonorable cowards – would either one of them show the kind of caution needed when dealing with such a major threat?! I frankly don’t think so. In fact, I see no reason to believe that at all. Remember the “cakewalk in Iraq”? This term, coined by one of my former teachers at SAIS, Ken Adelman, is a wonderful illustration of the Neocon mindest: pure ideology and to hell with caution. We all know that this “cakewalk” ended up costing the Iraqi and American people: well over one million deaths for the former, well over five trillion dollars for the latter. Some cakewalk indeed… The truth is that at this point nobody knows what the outcome of a US attack on the DPRK might be, not even the North Koreans. Will that be enough to deter the delusional imbeciles giving and dishonorable cowards currently at the helm of the Empire? You tell me!

Venezuela: as much hatred as there is for Venezuela in the US elites, this country is not a lucrative target or, let me rephrase that, it is a great target to subvert but probably not a good one to intervene in. Violence in Venezuela is directly in the US interests but a direct military intervention is probably not. My contacts tell me that the Venezuelan military is an unholy (and rather corrupt) mess, but they also tell me that the popular will to resist the “Yankees” is so strong that a any military intervention will immediately trigger an ugly guerrilla war (not to mention a political backlash in the rest of Latin America). The truth is the US probably has the means to militarily intervene in Venezuela, but they also have much better options.

Now let’s sum this all up.

The chances are high that in 2018 the US will

  • Escalate the war in Afghanistan
  • Renege on the nuclear deal with Iran
  • Back an Ukronazi attack on Novorussia

It is quite possible that the US will also

  • Shoot down a Russian aircraft over Syria

I find it unlikely that the US will

  • Invade Syria
  • Invade Venezuela

I am unable to evaluate whether the US will:

  • Disconnect Russia from SWIFT or seize Russian assets
  • Attack the DPRK

Frankly, I am not very confident about this attempt as analyzing the possible developments in 2018. All my education has always been based on a crucial central assumption: the other guy is rational. That is a huge assumption to make, but one which was fundamentally true during the Cold War. Today I find myself inclined to think that psychologists are probably better suited to make predictions about the actions of the rulers of the AngloZionist Empire than military analysts. Furthermore, history shows us that the combination of delusional imbeciles and dishonorable cowards is what typically brings down empires, we saw a very good example of that with the collapse of the Soviet Empire.

With the latest Trump fiasco I have personally given up any hope of ever seeing a US President capable of making a positive contribution to the welfare of the people of the US or the rest of the planet. The burden now is clearly on Russia and China to do everything they can to try to stop the US from launching even more catastrophic and deeply immoral wars. That is a very, very difficult task and I frankly don’t know if they can do it. I hope so. That is the best I can say.

 
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  1. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    but Uncle Sam degrees that black is white, water is dry and what is true is false.

    Decrees

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  2. The same goes for the US military: not one single officer has found in himself/herself to resign to protest the fact that the US is deeply in bed with those who are responsible, at least according to the official conspiracy theory, for 9/11. Nope, in fact US special forces are working with al-Qaeda types day in and day out and not a single one of these “patriots” has the honor/courage/integrity to go public about it.

    But for 9/11, Alqaeda was always the US’s baby. They were used in Afghanistan against the Soviets. US and its ally Pakistan fully backed Osama and his ilk for a long time. If not for 9/11, US and Alqeda’s good relations would have been unbroken.

    It’s like US-Japan’s relations. It got rocky cuz of disagreement over China and then Pearl Harbor. But had it not been for that, US-Japan relations would have been smooth throughout the 20th century. US had initially backed Japan’s war with Russia and looked the other way when Japan moved into Korea and China. It was Japan’s over-reaching that set the two nations apart and led to Pearl Harbor. But after WWII, they were friends against against China and Russia.

    So, it shouldn’t surprise us that US and Alqaeda are pals again. They were for a long time. It was US presence in Saudi Arabia that made Osama bitter and turn against his ally, the US. But with Iran and Shias as the Big Enemy, the US and Alqaeda are friends again.

  3. And yet, somewhere, to some degree, these guys must know that the odds are not in their favor. For one thing, an endless stream of military defeats and political embarrassments ought to strongly suggest to them that inaction is generally preferable to action, especially for clueless people.

    What defeats? US achieved its real goal in Iraq, which was to smash it and leave it divided. Zionist wanted a weak Iraq, and it is weak indeed. US still occupies Afghanistan and uses it for whatever it wants. The longer the war goes on, the Occupation is justified… like continued US presence in South Korea. US doesn’t want to win in Afghanistan. As long as the war is officially ‘on’, US can stay and rule that part of the world.
    And Libya is destroyed. Gaddafi’s dream of counter-currency is finished. Libya is like humpty dumpty, smashed forever, and the Zionists are happy.
    And Syria? It didn’t cost America anything to see that nation totally wrecked.
    Again, the Zionists are happy.

    These were great successes in a sick way. The Zionist-US goal was to spread chaos and turn those nations into hellholes that will take many decades to recover. And since 9/11, there’s been hardly any major terrorist attacks in America.

  4. peterAUS says:

    Beauties of time zone(s).
    Anyway….

    The usual Saker’s “panic attack”.

    So, for those 10 % here who aren’t actually on his wavelength, a brief comment.

    As usual there is a bit of discrepancy between:

    the AngloZionist Empire is reeling from its humiliating defeat in Syria

    and

    Syria (threats of a US-Israeli-KSA attack; attack on Iranian and Hezbollah forces in Syria)
    …attack on Russian forces in Syria)
    ….attack Iranian forces in Syria)

    but not important, of course. Just think “USA bad”, “Russia good” and all makes sense.

    Surprisingly, though, this is well stated

    Let me immediately say here that listing pragmatic arguments against such aggression is, at this point in time, probably futile.

    with a bit of Freudian slip

    that is really frightening.

    re the first sentence of this comment.
    And probably confusing for “Russia-Firsters”; USA is this/that (all bad) and Russia/China are this/that (all good) but there is a fear about the “bad boy”. Doesn’t make sense but, well, who cares. We gotta go with the message, that one “USA bad” etc.

    Now, he got this mostly right:

    whereas those in the elites not only know that they are total hypocrites and liars, but they actually see this as a sign superiority: the drones believes in his/her ideology, but his rulers believe in absolutely nothing.

    Except they do believe in something: POWER.

    He got close here, I admit:

    Because they profoundly believe in four fundamental things:
    1. We can buy anybody
    2. Those we cannot buy, we bully
    3. Those we cannot bully we kill
    4. Nothing can happen to us, we live in total impunity not matter what we do

    Now, I also admit THIS is quite interesting:

    The same goes for the US military: not one single officer has found in himself/herself to resign to protest the fact that the US is deeply in bed with those who are responsible, at least according to the official conspiracy theory, for 9/11. Nope, in fact US special forces are working with al-Qaeda types day in and day out and not a single one of these “patriots” has the honor/courage/integrity to go public about it.

    Still, the explanation feels weak.

    Imbeciles and cowards.
    Delusional imbeciles giving orders and dishonorable cowards mindlessly executing them.

    He could’ve gone deeper, but that would’ve complicated the message. Propaganda is all about keeping things simple and close to the lowest denominator (read imbecile). Makes sense, actually.

    He is correct here, though:

    Alas, this is also a very hard combo to deter or to try to reason with.

    The usual “Bad USA has been losing badly” compulsory part of the article we’ll skip here, save:

    ….to engage either the Iranians or Hezbollah is a very scary option

    ……(“panic” thing)

    And, of course…oh man….

    Putin is a unpredictable master strategist and the folks around him are very, very smart.

    I suggest reading this a couple of times. For a couple of reasons I’d leave to the reader.

    Back to topic at hand:

    I think that we can agree that the Neocons are unlikely to be very impressed by the risks posed by Russian forces in Syria and that they will likely feel that they can punch the russkies in the nose and that these russkies will have to take it.

    with

    I place the risk here at ‘medium’ even if, potentially, this could lead to a catastrophic thermonuclear war because I don’t think that the Neocons believe that the Russians will escalate too much (who starts WWIII over one shot down aircraft anyway, right?!)

    …..(“panic” thing)
    and

    Let’s hope that the Urkonazis will be busy fighting each other and that their previous humiliating defeat will deter them from trying again, but I consider a full-scale Urkonazi attack on the Donbass as quite likely

    …..(“panic” thing).
    and

    The truth is that at this point nobody knows what the outcome of a US attack on the DPRK might be, not even the North Koreans. Will that be enough to deter the delusional imbeciles giving and dishonorable cowards currently at the helm of the Empire? You tell me!

    (“panic” thing).

    And, at the end, kudos actually, he appears to be getting there:

    Frankly, I am not very confident about this attempt as analyzing the possible developments in 2018. All my education has always been based on a crucial central assumption: the other guy is rational.

    This isn’t bad:

    The burden now is clearly on Russia and China to do everything they can to try to stop the US from launching even more catastrophic and deeply immoral wars. That is a very, very difficult task and I frankly don’t know if they can do it. I hope so. That is the best I can say.

    But I’d keep focus on “I frankly don’t know if they can do it”.

    Now, back to fanboys and resident agenda pushers.

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  5. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    as much hatred as their is for Venezuela in the US elites,

    There

  6. Frankly, I am not very confident about this attempt as analyzing the possible developments in 2018.

    US foreign policy flows from internal conditions. As long as the US is ruled by Zionist-Globalist-Supremacists as their cuckaroo dogs like Joe Biden, Lindsey Graham, and the rest, nothing will change.

    America needs a new civil ‘war’ to set things right. The ruling elites must be outed, routed, and destroyed. But the elites have framed the civil war in America as between ‘nazis’ and ‘antifa’, and this divide-and-conquer strategy gets nothing done. The American Left is more at war with Civil War monuments than with the REAL power. This civil ‘war’ must be between people vs the elites. But elites have manipulated the conflict as ‘blue’ vs ‘red’.

    What happens IN America will affect what happens OUTSIDE America.

    There are people on both right and left who know what is going on with this neo-imperialism BS. Elite intellectuals are useless as critics because the filtering system for elitism favors the cucks and toadies. To reach the top in any profession, one has to suck up to Zionists, denounce Russia, worship homos, and denounce any form of white agency as ‘white supremacism’.
    White agency is most important in this equation because whites are still the backbone of America. As such, only white power can bring down the Evil.
    If not for white submissivism to Zionist supremacism, the globo-imperialist system will begin to break apart. Among gentiles, ONLY WHITES can challenge the Zionist-globalist madness. Only whites have the numbers, talent, and organization to effect massive change.

    There are whites who speak the truth, but the system filters out such voices from top positions. Only toadies like Comey are allowed to reach the top. Asians are seen as successful and on the rise, but they are even bigger toadies than whites cuz of yellow dog mentality. So, the elites are made up of white cucks and yellow dogs serving Zionist-Homo supremacism.

    How can the elite power be challenged by non-elites? Is there some way? A new way to use the internet? Maybe. That must be why the Platforms are shutting down so many alternative voices.

    And how can masses of Trumptards and Anti-Trump resistance be convinced that the real power is not with Trump or any president but with the Deep State that colludes with Big Media and Big donors?

    So many Trumptards think all is fine because Trump is president. Likewise, so many progs paid no attention as long as Obama was president even though Obama proved to be a war criminal.
    US is now a silly nation where progs are totally incensed over ‘gay cakes’. With dummy populists who think in terms of flag and guns and idiot decadent proggists who think in terms of ‘muh gender’ and ‘white privilege’, a true challenge to sick elite power is impossible.

    We need more on the right to call out on Trump, and we need more on the left to call out on likes of Obama and Hillary. And both sides need to focus on the Power above Trump-Hillary-Obama. But they are too childish to see anything cuz for most of them, it’s either ‘muh guns’ or ‘muh gender’.

    • Agree: Kiza
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  7. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    How about you abandoning the vague verbiage of “high”, “quite possible” and “unlikely” and giving instead your best probability estimates?

    The US “quite possibly” shooting down a Russian aircraft over Syria means what? 1%, 5%, 25%? In a long run, one cannot be a useful analyst without an ability to guestimate numbers.

    • Replies: @Alden
  8. Simplistically, it appears most Americans because of the Cold War view geopolitics as a Manichean struggle of civilizations, good versus evil. Therefore, as they understand the United States, representing absolute good, to have been the victor in that battle for the planet, the United States now has the right to dictate terms to the entire globe in a mopping up action.

  9. What’s this QAnon stuff?

  10. Yet none of that prevents them from claiming that they, not Russia, defeated Daesh/ISIS/al-Nusra/etc. This is absolutely amazing, think of it –

    It is US “elites” Modus Operandi, otherwise “exceptionalism” flies out of the window. With some effort and time given we may yet see the US taking credit for the Battle of Lepanto and, eventually, for Thermopylae. Consider his: “Kursk was an Anglo-American victory as well as a Soviet one.” (c)

    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/why-the-battle-kursk-might-just-be-the-most-misunderstood-22931?page=3

    You see where it is all going? In real everyday life this is qualified as Stolen Valor and there is a Federal Law from 2013 which makes it a crime.

    • Agree: Cortes
  11. @Priss Factor

    Calvin Coolidge referred to Japan as America’s natural friend. Were the economic sanctions imposed because of Japanese expansion in China, Indochina and the Dutch East Indies really necessary? How important was it to Mr. and Mrs. Average American that China be governed by Communists, warlords and corrupt nationalists, that Indochina be governed by French colonialists, and the Dutch East Indies be governed by Dutch colonialists, than by Japanese imperalists? Pat Buchanan has called WWII in Europe the unnecessary war; I think the truly unnecessary WWII conflict was in the Pacific.

  12. “Nikki Haley – there is the real imbecile!”

    And yet there is recent blather in the “Conservative” Commentariat that Haley is looking like Presidential material. God help us all.

    • Replies: @TT
  13. oscar says:

    “ukronazi” saker cannot understand why those ungrateful ukranians prefer nazis who liquidated their jewish commisars vs the stalin adoring shabbas goim russians, stalin most popular figure in russia today. between a bolshevik jew and his shabbas goim russian henchmen ill go with ukronazis

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @plonialmoni
  14. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    In the US government work is for second and third raters; the smart people go elsewhere. This is why government ‘elites’ are so mediocre and why so-called ‘neo-cons’ always seem to get the upper hand.

    We can buy anybody
    Those we cannot buy, we bully
    Those we cannot bully we kill
    Nothing can happen to us, we live in total impunity not matter what we do

    This has been the US’s winning strategy for the last 119 years now and has been refined through practice. If it continues to work it’ll continue to be used.

    I think that nobody knows for sure what the North Koreans will do if attacked, b

    Anybody under the age of 70 in DPRK has grown up in an Asiatic leadership-worship semi-religion with their calendar starting from the birth of Kim Il Sung in 1912. It’s more than just a run-of-the-mill ‘authoritarian regime’ that westerners are used to. Westerners can’t, apparently, wrap their minds around this.
    Most discussions regarding such issues as Afghanistan and Syria usually center around probable costs, US casualties, chances of success, etc. Very rarely in any discussion does one see any American expressing any concern whatsoever for the local people underneath the bombs and schemes. The US is responsible for the death and immiseration of millions of people yet hardly one in twenty, one in a hundred, evinces any concern about that at all. America, a land of moral defectives.

    • Agree: bluedog, TT
  15. TT says:

    Saker, this article has only general facts without your usual sharp analysis. It even contradict your own previous NK war analysis. Has Crazy Trumps & his WH really disheartened you so much? But some said Trumps is godsend, he has bared all US(Nato & Israel too) hypocrisy, destroying whole US in every aspects, either intentionally to reconstruct the ultra corrupted & manipulated US, or unintentionally hasten the empire collapse. Cheer up, look at the bright side like China, they are very positive about Trumps(he only love $, not war).

    1. Afghanistan
    Yes nothing will happen, unless US attack Russia army in Syria, then this will be one hot spot that Russia can heat up by equipping whoever(Taliban) to inflict heavy casualties for US.

    The rockets attacked in Afghanistan airport during US Defense Secretary Mad Dog visit is to sent a very clear warning signal to US incharged, what Russia can pay back for the death of its General in Syria? To kill a few generals won’t scare off Mattis, this will.

    2. Syria
    Russia has been very restraint to avoid direct conflict with US even under attacked. This emboldened US & Nato. So its likely US/Israel will conduct some air raids or missiles attack on SAA, Iran, Hezbollah, but no suicidal ground attack with these war harden formidable fighters.

    3. Russia
    Swift & Assets freeze – Russia already has its own clearing system set up for this. China got its warning from WH too. When US did that to Russia, the world will hasten the Petrol dollar replacement with Yuan. So its unlikely US like it, unless direct war break out.

    Shoot down Russia plane? Not likely, Syria plane Yes – Recent Su35 chasing off F22 showed US is just a paper tiger. S400 can bring down some US birds tooit in return. Come to direct conflict, Russia is fully capable to inflict greater damage to many US bases in Middle East with missiles. So US can only continue using its “moderate” terrorists to harass but not shoot down Russia plane directly.

    There is probably agreement in place, No SAM equipment to terrorists(ISIS hasn’t got any SAM in entire Syria war), as it can threaten US too when moderates switch camp. Certainly Israel know Russia has no lack of SAM to equip Hezbollah as a return courtesy.

    That’s right, when Putin failed to direct attack Turkey after its Su24 is shot down, it emboldened USNato. But Putin is a cold Grand chess player. He won’t let a impulse lost his entire game. Sure he had exacted the revenge later. As a starter, he had the entire Turkey’s Uyghur Turks terrorists army that killed the pilot carpet bombed, making Turkey Erogan thumping chest. Doubt US want its whole terrorists with its embedded Special force get carpet bombed yet.

    Russia know Erogan is only the meganomania fool puppet. A Russia counterstrike will activate Nato obligation. So Putin ingeniously bring Turkey to his side, finished off terrorists, have whole Syria, Iran & Hezbollah so indebted, perpetual base in Syria, showcase Russia weapons and power, take high moral ground to raise Russia status in world stage as indispensable leader of Middle East, that’s true Art of War — Winning everything at least cost. Humiliating US is the biggest revenge.

    4. Iran
    May be more than tearing off Nuclear deal, Trumps is all in with Israel. So everything is possible, including US limited missiles attack to Iran to fulfil Israel wish, but not full scale war which need much preparation.

    5. Ukraine
    US sure love to escalate this proxy war to suck in Russia for full scale war. Its depends whether Ukraine will get force into this bloody shit hole…. which is very likely with its manipulated leaders.

    6. Korea War
    No war, all hot air, as your last analysis shown its gonna too bloody for US to contemplate. Biggest factor is Russia and China behind, not about $. US knew too well in Vietnam war and previous Korea war. FB has some good analysis in this.

    Myanmar is certainly a cakewalk, but why for last 50 years US didn’t attempt to attack for its tremendous rich unexplored resources? Its the China factor.

    7. Venezuela
    This is the easiest sweetest soft target for Trumps if he ever need a war. Army is weak. There is no China Russia next door factor. And it has the world largest oil to pay. At the same time can destroy China and Russia dominant investments like Libya case, also removing their present at its backyard. Venezuela is what US capable to bully, not Iran or DPRK.

    • Replies: @Felix Keverich
  16. “Not only has the swamp easily, quickly and totally drowned Trump…”

    Stop right there. Rather than the generously imply that Trump had good intentions in the first place, isn’t it time to at least consider the possibility that Trump’s campaign was a calculated “bait and switch” fraud from the beginning?

    “Furthermore, the Trump Administration now has released a National Security Strategy which clearly show that the Empire is in ‘full paranoid’ mode.”

    Not “paranoid” but “PNAC”…as in PNAC manifesto for world domination and control.

    “It is plainly obvious that the Neocons are now back in total control of the White House, Congress and the US corporate media. Okay, maybe things are still not quite as bad as if Hillary had been elected, but they are bad enough to ask whether a major war is now inevitable next year.”

    Maybe Trump was the “deep state” candidate of choice? Maybe that’s why they ran Clinton against him rather than the more electable Sanders? Maybe that’s why Obama started ramping up tensions with Russia in the early fall of 2016 – so as to swing the election to Trump (by giving the disgruntled anti-war Sanders voters a false choice between Trump or war with Russia?

    • Replies: @Lana Kane
    , @Druid
  17. Bach says:
    @Priss Factor

    Among gentiles, ONLY WHITES can challenge the Zionist-globalist madness. Only whites have the numbers, talent, and organization to effect massive change.

    No, not for that reason, but because whites are the body/vehicle through which Zionists/globalists exercise power.

    A non-white war on Zionists would bring on the fury of both Zionists and whites against them.

    Thus, only whites can fight Zionists. They are the legs, arms, hands and feet of the Zionist elite. Whites are the enablers without which Zionists would be absolutely powerless.

  18. @TT

    Agreed, Venezuela seems like an obvious target if you’re looking for a short victorious war. The country is such a mess economically, American soldiers will be welcome, if they just bring food with them. lol

    • Replies: @TT
  19. Afghanistan – Hopefully the US is stupid enough to go there, if it goes anywhere.

    Syria – In my view unlikely in 2018, though things could change if blackpill timeline scenario comes about.

    Russia (economic) – Don’t know how US is supposed to shut down SWIFT for Russia without European cooperation. As someone has pointed out, an alternative is in place now anyway (though the failure to have it in place in 2014 was a major Russian failure). Hopefully Russian oligarch assets in the US are frozen to teach those rootless cosmopolitans a lesson.

    Russia (military) – Russia’s position in Syria remains vulnerable at a fundamental level, though don’t see the US intentionally escalating there in 2018 (same reasons as for Syria).
    That said, it’s nice to keep this possibility in reserve for further humiliating the Putin regime at an opportune moment (e.g., after #1 in Donbass).

    Iran – Yes, that’s likely. Thank you ZOG – America’s options to pursue “divide and rule” strategy wrt Russia and Iran are hugely curtailed thanks to the Jewish Lobby.

    Donbass – #1 (“Ukronazis” win) will be catastrophic and will fundamentally undermine the legitimacy of the Putin regime. Professional patriots like Starikov and Kremlin tools like Kurginyan have been scaring their flocks with #3 to explain Putin’s mythical 666D chess skills, thanks to whom we know have an economically and militarily resurgent and vengefully anti-Russian Ukraine that will be a far harder nut to crack than in 2014, and Russia widely considered (outside Kremlinist echo chambers) to be an aggressor anyway.

    DPRK – The US has a window of 1-2 years to resolve this issue before it starts becoming too risky. I think the chances of a strike during missile launch prep are high. Don’t see it unlikely that North Korea would choose to cardinally escalate it; not like KJU actually wants a large war and losing power/his life.

    Venezuela – What’s the point? They’re demonstrating the failures of anti-imperial Leftism very well by themselves (while sucking up Russian money – the cretin Sechin has loaned them billions of dollars Rosneft/Russia is never getting back). 1% chance.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @The Scalpel
  20. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    How can the elite power be challenged by non-elites? Is there some way? A new way to use the internet? Maybe. That must be why the Platforms are shutting down so many alternative voices.

    Persuasive argument and/or propaganda via the internet or any other method won’t unseat these elites.
    Their power to win a propaganda contest is unlimited. Propoganda favors liars anyway, so if you are telling the truth you won’t win a propoganda debate. The election of Trump didn’t prove the elites are vulnerable to counter argument. On the contrary, the subjugation of Trump and turning him to global war proves the full power of the elite propaganda machine.
    These elites will only fall through a real civil war, or when they eventually destroy themselves through mismanagement, greed, and over extension, as empires historically do.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  21. peterAUS says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Agree overall.

    A couple of details:

    Afghanistan – Not important and won’t count. Just a “surge” or something. Not really a (new) war. Besides, nobody there to wage a war against; it’s a counterinsurgency…a police action.

    Syria –Provocations, pushes yes….(shoot a plane here, kill a couple of Russians there) but as a pressure, not anything serious.

    Russia (economic) – No clue here so I’ll pass.

    Iran – Russian’s help there won’t make a big difference.

    Donbass – tricky, if….IF….Ukrainian army will be at the level required. That “NCO initiative” nobody here pays attention to, works out well, Donbass will have a problem in Summer.
    I am not quite sure it will work though. So, a big unknown here actually.
    Current Ukrainian army, numbers notwithstanding, can’t take on Donbass. Current…..
    Reorganized/retrained, yes………
    In either case can’t take on Donbass with open Russian help. In that scenario Ukrainian offensive gets beaten back, but, I just can’t see then Russia advancing towards Kiev (save tactical moves after which it will retreat as in Georgia).
    The only problem will be that propaganda thing, which, actually, shouldn’t be a problem at all.

    DPRK – Well…..NOBODY knows how big that window is. Or, I haven’t seen it. Anyone is more than welcome to post a link here. The tentative estimate is that “year or two”, but doesn’t mean much.
    I can very well envisage “Five Eyes” coming, out of blue, with “6 months” which will then be used to pressure Trump; purely as US internal politics. And, then, “Trump team” makes a decision. That is a truly scary scenario, for a couple of reasons.

  22. Aedib says:
    @peterAUS

    You were too butthurt on another Saker articles. Your current post seems fare more interesting.

    • LOL: Twodees Partain
  23. Russia may play their Ace card soon. It can secretly send shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missile systems to Afghanistan (like the USA once did) and modern anti-tank missiles. Then watch the Afghans kill a dozen Americans each week. What could the empire do?

    Russia could also provide North Korea with better missiles in hopes the USA is foolish enough to start a pointless war that would ruin relations with China and South Korea. They probably did that already.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @El Dato
  24. TT says:
    @Felix Keverich

    Already Hybrid war is on going with msm propaganda to make as tho Venezuela really in damn shortage of food. Has you find such condition in war torned Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa? Even heavily sanctioned North Korea, Iran, Myanmar have enough food.

    Venezuela has world No1 oil potential, no war disruption, no UN Sanction, it should be as good as any Midle Eastern if leave alone, if not better. Its a propaganda war.

    Some wrote that CIA has conducted subversion with Venezuela opposition/oligarchy collaboration. They airborne so much counterfeit money to cause hyper inflation runaway to mess up its econmy, disrupt its subsidized food distribution, sanction its heavy crude oil import, etc. Russia and China have invested heavily for its oil & gas, esp its heavy crude crackers that US has dominated.

    But it has no China &Russia at next door, that make it vulnerable to direct aggression like Iraq, Libya case. So if Trumps wanted another quick Glory Battle, its easiest target. Russia and China lack such power projections there.

  25. TT says:
    @The Alarmist

    Harley is already godsend to help US, isn’t it? She has been so amusing to the whole world esp in Jerusalem UN vote. Some is speculating she might replace boring loser Tillerson who tried to pretend like a rational stateman. I think she is more entertaining and less dangerous than hypocrite Mitchel Obama as next US President.

  26. Iris says:

    Excellent article, as often from the Saker.

    The Neocon Anglo-Zionist supremacists are, however, not irrational. They fight their wars with the lives of others, so the human cost, the loss of goyim cannon fodder, does not matter to them.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  27. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @oscar

    Careful, you’ll agitate the saker drones.

  28. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    What’s good about it? It looks like something he wrote so he can refer to it later if anything on his bucket list happens. The usual “i predicted that look how smart i am.” Saker, if anyone, with his background in analysis knows how useless this type of doomer porn is

    • Replies: @bluedog
    , @Jesse James
  29. Lana Kane says:
    @Harold Smith

    “Rather than generously imply that Trump had good intentions in the first place, isn’t it time to at least consider the possibility that Trump’s campaign was a calculated “bait and switch” fraud from the beginning?”

    A point that cannot be made often enough, IMO. Trump is the Republican Bill Clinton.

    Maybe it’s time for Americans to admit that their quadrennial Mr. America contest amounts to little more than a “suck Satan’s c***” audition for the deep state, and that the contestants have no qualms about getting on their knees. It is far more comforting to believe that “your” guy was subverted after the (s)election, but that’s not how it actually works.

    I’m imagining a bumper sticker with Trump’s laughing face and a sad-looking deplorable in a baseball cap, with the caption “Bait and Switch- the American Way.” Someone also once suggested “There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.”

  30. Ozman says:
    @peterAUS

    Hey PeterAUS, you seem a typical Aussie. You just love to criticise and exhort your opinions as superior and more holy. A kind of Remora that only can exist by sucking on the host.

    Why don’t YOU write an article based on YOUR expertise and YOUR insight?

    I for one, will be waiting but knowing Aussies quite well, I won’t be holding my breath as I think it’s obvious that you’d prefer to shit all over someone else’s work than produce work of your own.

    Yea, I too am an Aussie.

    • Replies: @Cyrano
    , @Twodees Partain
  31. pet says:

    The Saker is a faker. He spends more time deleting “politically incorrect” (meaning the Saker incorrect) comments on his blog than he spends on thinking if his “political analysis” make any sense.

  32. pet says:

    [Choose a single Handle and stick to it, or else use Anonymous/Anon. Otherwise, your comments may be trashed.]

    For such an uncritical defender of everything Russian, Mr. Saker would be well advised to undertake an objective analysis of the Russian policies and actions from the time of Gorbachev to the current time in order to look for the true causes of the dismal geo-strategic position of Russia today, instead of blaming it all on western “partners” only. I’m sure he would be able to find a plenty of strategic mistakes done by the Russian leadership including Putin, during more than 3 decades, some of them result of naked ignorance and others result of pure stupidity. He would also have to touch on the issue of the “despotic” nature of the Russian state whereby one man, whether able or not, decides about everything while everyone else applauds. Some suggested points for the analysis: betrayal and hand-over of East Germany against its will, dissolution of Warsaw Pact without any paperwork (parallel dissolution of NATO was very much discussed at the time but Russians didn’t even ask for it), dissolution of the USSR absolutely contrary to the interests of Russian people, destruction of “Mir” station, betrayal of Serbia, Cuba, siding with “partners” on Iran, Libya, North Korea etc., giving up on Vietnam and many Soviet friends and allies all over the world, half-hearted “intervention” in Georgia, loss of Ukraine due to negligence, occasional mistreatment of Belarus for its refusal to sell out to Russian oligarchs, total lack of care for the Russians stranded all over former Soviet space etc. etc. All theses things add up leading to where we are today. (I’m not even touching upon the state of affairs inside Russia regarding corruption, salaries, oligarchs, social justice and many others).

  33. peterAUS says:
    @pet

    An interesting comment.

    You appear to be pretty close to Russia, at least much closer than most of us here.
    So, I’d like to ask a question:
    If, or better, when, push comes to shove, how likely is that Putin regime simply let Donbass down?

    Say, how likely is a deal to “give” Donbass back to Ukraine in exchange for something (cancelling sanctions and such) from West?

    When I say “give”, say, some sort of “International protectorate” of Donbass for a time being (or something like that, not quite a direct sellout) in exchange for cancelling sanctions/improving relationships with West etc?

    • Replies: @bluedog
  34. Kiza says:

    There is no doubt that US will escalate existing wars as well as start new ones in 2018, Trump is a nothingburger for the MIC (to make a caricature of the cliche). But I have said the following before and just repeating it now – the race is on between the collapse of the US-driven financial system and a big kahuna of the global nuclear war. Either US finances will collapse or the US will do the big damage to this planet. Whether the financial collapse will be initiated by the replacement of US petro dollar with petro Yuan or some other synthetic currency, or by an attack on NK or even worse Iran, it is hard to say. Rigging All of the Markets will eventually come to an end and hopefully the cowards commanded to launch the missiles will instead rush home to take care of their families.

    If you do not know already how rotten the US system is, read that the Federal employee who mowes the grass of the White House lawn earns almost $142,000 per year:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-27/1mm-minute-salaries-22bn-year-vacation-pay-and-other-fun-facts-about-federal-workfor

    • Replies: @TT
    , @kemerd
  35. bluedog says:
    @Anonymous

    Well at least he will have something to look back on and say I was correct rather than the normal bullshit people peddle, perhaps out of some perverse sense of not being able to see the forest for the trees or perhaps it simply jealousy,lol who knows what flips the switch on some people,or perhaps they are simply trolls selling their souls for a buck or two…

  36. bluedog says:
    @peterAUS

    Lol are you trying to say that Russia is like us,God forbid one is more than enough…

  37. Daedalus says:

    The role as world hegemon must be taken away from the US before World Governemt is established. The globalists want the World to lose faith that the US can lead the ‘free’ nations. They are directing US foreign policy to be hyper-aggressive with full consideration that the consequences ultimately harm America’s world leadership.
    Think this is bogus? Take a moment to consider how orchestrated our elections are, how the political machine preserves its power with the massive support of the media, how political consultants, pollsters, public relations all intertwine in the political world to make sure the correct message is relayed to the American citizen at the most opportune time. If you take this kind of thinking and apply it to the international sphere, you realize that all the careful sculpting of the mind that goes on domestically, is ignored fully on the world stage. They know what messages they are sending to the world, and they are okay with giving off the impression that we are: stupid, ignorant, arrogant, brutal, greedy, liars. This collapse of world esteem in America will pave the way for the next world hegemon.

  38. El Dato says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    I was hoping for a development of this long list of rebuttals and an exposition of what the author’s standpoint might be.

    But then the post ended.

  39. El Dato says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Russia may play their Ace card soon. It can secretly send shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missile systems to Afghanistan (like the USA once did) and modern anti-tank missiles. Then watch the Afghans kill a dozen Americans each week. What could the empire do?

    Why should they do that? Sure, the MSM keeps finding “Russians meedling in Afghanistan”, but nothing has survived the 3 minutes of hourly hate so far.

    Afghanistan is Pakistan’s playground (and a bit of India’s), not Russia’s. Pakistan is not friendly. They announced that they would blow away the drones doing kill missions their territory a couple of months back (who serious that is I don’t know; probably nothing that cannot be bought with a fistful of dollars; like that Osama raid “they didn’t know about” which had an electric power failure at the correct moment and nobody of the military showing up at the several-hour-long after-work extraction party because of helo failure).

    Russia could also provide North Korea with better missiles

    And why should they do THAT? Nork is China’s little noisy brat and it leaves no doubt on that subject.

    What happend to the crazy idea of mining lithium in Afghanistan btw?

    As for the Ukraine, I would guess there will be “trouble” in Crimea by “non state actors / enthusiasts” while the complaints about “cyber hacks” out of Russia on “infrastructure” goes on and on and could be whipped up into a major event.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  40. El Dato says:
    @pet

    destruction of “Mir” station

    Woah slow down there. It was a piece of aging junk, had already had fire aboard, had nonfunctional solar panels, the computers were fritzing out, mold was growing in the isolation. The ISS, formerly Space Station Freedom, formerly Space Station Alpha, was taking shape. Time to dump that assemblage of canisters.

    Far more important is to have a heavy launcher like the Energia so you can launch it again and service it. Well, that doesn’t exist either now. SAD!

    Have some old school space dreaming instead:

    Red Star, Winter Orbit (1983), Text.

    I still prefer Hinterlands (1981). Text.

    We had really settled in for Soviet Union forever. Amazing.

  41. Russia has been directly involved in the Donbas from the beginning. Perhaps you think every one else is as stupid as you are, but you keep harping on the lie. The Russians have equipment present that is forbidden by the Minsk agreement, and Russia, instead of acting like the participant it is, Putin keeps lying about it.

    If you want the people shelling the Donbas, look at your hero Putin, in whose country you are afraid to live.

    • Replies: @bluedog
  42. TT says:
    @Kiza

    Lol….what are you waiting for, grab the WH lawn mowing job! Its the pay for landscape architect, not mower the writer is kidding. You get that kind of pay in other country too if not higher.

    In UK, plumber earn more than engineer(same pay as bus driver). Talk about pay, i think Singapore ceremonial President and Minister are the highest paid civil servants in the whole world $2~5M, excluding bonus and benefits. Potus Trumps $250k is peanut. Policians are corrupted. And frankly they aren’t bother with these peanut pay, its the business connection that the job can bring later like Clinton’s $200K per speech, or a Lockheed Martin/ Halliburton board directorship somewhere.

    Don’t worry about Nuclear war, the rich oligarchy controlling US still want to enjoy his wealth under sunlight. Iran and NK are too strong for US shasshay war dancing to rip tax payer $. War with Iran you still has oil & gas as reparation, NK only has 25M refugees to be fed, who do you think US deep state prefer?

    Petrol Yuan will take long time to replace USD, China can’t afford a sudden US crash that will suck down whole world incl its $3T treasury and biggest market.

    One popular saying in China: Anglo Saxon are borned Pirate, they go around robbing and shear others wool by force. Chinese is born business man, they rear sheeps to have self sufficient endless supply with some to share.

    • Replies: @Kiza
  43. bluedog says:
    @Quartermaster

    Is the Donbas in your backyard if not then why are you concerned, or is it to protect the $5 billion of your tax dollars that went to create this mess and the billions more thru the IMF (in violations of its own rules) to keep the fire burning,lol talk about stupidity that takes the cake….

  44. Occams says:
    @Priss Factor

    You act as if 9/11 REALLY WAS ISLAMIC TERRORISTS!

    Ho Lee Crap

    “Americans are the most misled, misdirected, and therefore the most gullible people on the face of the planet” ~ Alan Hart, author

  45. polskijoe says:
    @Priss Factor

    Sadly agreed.

    Clearly that one general who listed the 7 nations a few years ago. (Wesley Clark?)
    wanted those countries destroyed.
    They are destroyed (largely).

    Putting in a puppet government or anything else is secondary.

    The USA elites / military are psychotic warmongers and shame on anyone who defends them.

  46. Cyrano says:
    @Ozman

    He is about as much an Aussie as I am Martian. He is a Croat phony who thinks that he is catholically superior to anybody of “lesser” beliefs. To this day I can’t understand why the Croat Nazis hated the Jews so much – because they didn’t want to offend their big Nazi pals?

    If there is anyone that the Croats would like to emulate – it’s the Jews. You see, the Croats would be absolutely trilled if they could make Catholicism to be their nationality, their religion and if possible they would like a catholic language to be invented so they can replace the hated Serbian language that they speak even though they call it “Croatian”.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  47. @Priss Factor

    ONLY WHITES can challenge the Zionist-globalist madness.

    Once whites start getting united and refuse to get cowarded into their little corner when some one calls them racists, anti-Semites, etc. When some called me ‘anti-Semite, I inquired of him, who were ‘semites’ that I knew who I was against, and this little bastard could not answer my question. Most don’t even know who are the Semites! so next time you are called such, ask them who are the Semites, and if they can’t answer, then laugh them off!

    Of course only whites can fight the sinagoge of satan.Why? Whites have a long history of fighting it! How? Throughout the ages, Whites are the ONLY ONES who had any contact with the Khazars, and defeated them in various places, and battles. It was the white Russians who conquered them by the way. Ever since the Khazars were converted to talmudism, they had declared war to all of humanity, went after ‘money’ and hoarded to themselves. Ever since then, whites are their only group who stands in their way, but since talmudists convinced ‘churchianity’ or rather may be infiltrated and convinced the sheep that ‘talmudists’ are god’s chosen, whites are basically loosing the battle. So Strategy number one: de-propagandize the people who believe that talmudists are god’s chosen, once that falls, the war is over!

  48. Such interesting material but clearly written by an over eager amateur writer. So many typos especially in verb endings…
    Why no first names ie with Tillerson? No descriptions for new or uninformed readers. etc.

    I wanted to share this piece but after a while I saw that it would achieve the opposite of what I wanted—it would turn the people off who needed to hear this. This is so common among radical writers even when their material is brilliant. We need to reach those people who are emotionally blocked to this difficult information and make it ”palatable” and understandable, if we really care. Short helps.

    • Replies: @hunor
  49. The Scalpel says: • Website
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Perhaps Russia has a different strategy for Donbass. Perhaps there is a coup in store if not for the whole nation, then possibly for certain regions. This development would short circuit any possible Ukraine “ATO” against the Donbass

  50. The Scalpel says: • Website
    @Lana Kane

    “There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.”

    True and lol

  51. Kiza says:
    @TT

    You are too knowledgeable for me to engage in a discussion with you.

    Unz.com comments now sport too many trolls and fools, I do keep repeating myself.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  52. @El Dato

    “Why should they do that? Sure, the MSM keeps finding ‘Russians meedling in Afghanistan’, but nothing has survived the 3 minutes of hourly hate so far.”

    Perhaps in retaliation for the jew-controlled U.S. “government” arming terrorists in Syria and Ukraine?

  53. @Priss Factor

    Great point. And like the Joker in the Dark Knight, how do you “win” against someone who just loves chaos?

  54. The latest publicity attack on Iran, based on colour revolution style demonstrations, has little prospect of success, since, now that the media and the Trump regime have shown their support, the demonstrators, whether paid for or legitimate, become traitorous pawns to the general Iranian public.

    • Replies: @Vidi
  55. peterAUS says:

    Saker:

    Donbass: will the Ukronazis finally attack?

    Food for thought, perhaps:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup

    Host country Russia
    Dates 14 June – 15 July

    If….if…that Ukrainian Armed Forces reform gets under way, and done properly, around that time they could be ready…….

    • Replies: @Cyrano
  56. kemerd says:
    @Kiza

    Shame on you! Instead of pointing the modest salary of men who does a useful and honest job, you should talk about billions that is not earned. That money is probably barely sufficient to have a comfortable living in DC area. I hate it when otherwise smart people fall for that!

  57. TT says:

    Sorry Kiza, my apology. I agreed we are at a total different league for any meaningful discussion(after reading your other comments, its embarrassing).

    I just stumbled into unz recently to find its rather intellectual interesting. But too many fools(like me) trolling in unz make me mistaken its one I can contribute some trash, for a choice of different taste.

    Thanks for been so diplomatic in reminding me(yes im sincere, not sarcastic). I should manage my urge to gossip in this quality site…although i still love to read/troll the diverse interesting ideas from various commenters to get a broader feel of others thinking without limits to a narrow elitist view. :)

  58. hunor says:
    @Drkathleen

    it is much to late for the whites , check – mate is just a round the corner.

    everything is in place , the best and brightest of US / nato. will be played against eastern whites

    Ukraine , Belorussia , Russia and some eastern Europeans. with technology of today even without

    nukes it will be a total irrevocable destruction of the white genes , on the male side.

    those whites who will not perish on the frontline will be targeted by the biological army of the elites ,

    / ” migrants ” /. The white females will be forcefully crossbred . However after much carnage the

    ” elites ” wicked ones will fail because they plan is not meant to be.

  59. @Ozman

    “Why don’t YOU write an article based on YOUR expertise and YOUR insight?”

    Please, don’t encourage him to write another article length comment.

  60. Cyrano says:
    @peterAUS

    I don’t think that the Ukronazis can do it by themselves, though. How about some help from the Croat Nazis for the Ukronazis? Like the last time, remember? When the Croat Nazis helped their colleagues = the German Nazis lose at Stalingrad:

    http://www.axishistory.com/axis-nations/4461-infanterie-regiment-369-kroatisches

    Remember the thing called Comintern? The communist international? I think it’s time for the formation of Nazintern – the Nazi international, where like minded people can come together and fight the commie legacy.

    • Troll: L.K
  61. There are hardly any rational actors left in the Trump administration. Rex Tillerson is a joke and should have long gone these bunch of crazies. Russia and China should join forces and should tell Trump and his Ziocon backers what is at stake if they attack Syria or Iran. Nikki Haley is the mouthpiece of the Zionist regime and tried to make Colin Powell. If the US-Zionist and the Saudi regime attack Iran, at least the Zionist regime and the decadent Saudi one will be doomed. The US should adjust itself to more coffins from the Middle East and Afghanistan. Just recently I watched an interview with Security adviser McMasters on BBC, and I could not believe the nonsense this guy was saying about Iran, Hezbollah et cetera. He is very dangerous. Such a policy advice is not rational but insane.

  62. Mr Saker needs to learn from the very wise Solomon: “Let thy words be few,” for “in the multitude of words there is a multitude of sins.”
    For instance, Mr Saker writes:

    Russia option 1: rumors that the US would disconnect Russia from SWIFT …And the Russians have been making all sorts of menacing noises about this, but all of them very vague which tells me that Russia might not have any good retaliatory options.

    He really should know (that is, if he really is the ‘expert’ on all things Russian he’s cracked up to be) that Europe would be hard-pressed to cave to pressures from the US to disconnect Russia from SWIFT seeing that much trade between Europe and Russia is carried on daily… (think Siemens; NordStream; Gazprom; BASF, etc.

    And by the way, I’m surprised that our bird, who’s view of Russia is a long shot from being a ‘bird’s eye one, is ruffling his feathers over Russia “not having any good retaliatory options.”

    C’mon Mr Saker, a few years back Russia’s central bank announced they have an alternative to SWIFT ready to go when needed.

    I’ll be glad to fill you in on the details, just shoot me some emails. +Brother Nathanael

  63. I do not believe that there is going to be a major open conflict, especially not with Russia, but as most wars happen almost by accident, you never know.
    As long as they keep killing Muslims I am satisfied.
    And to be brutally honest, the more crime, rape and terror that immigrants and Muslims indulge in the better. Otherwise we will never get rid of them. Had they been hardworking, lawabiding and willing to assimilate I would have been forced to accept that my world was lost forever.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  64. TT says:

    Did we realised all countries mentioned in Saker’s article facing wars are all caused by US?

    Can it be the whole world is wrong, only US is correct that Nikki is taking down names in UN for not toeing US line for revenge(against whole world), and Israel Nerdthayou declared UN as a House of Liars?

    May be these are signs that the days is near for Zionist and US deep state who get so excessively drunk in their hubris to bare all their ugliness openly to the world without slightest Obama’s hypocrisy. Now, the emperors have removed all their clothes, who will be calling out?

    Tomorrow will be a new year of 2018. May the world have peace and happiness. May all make love, not war.

    The fool who know he is a fool is indeed a wise. So am i a fool or wise? A fool indeed, sorry Kisa for trolling again, just can’t resist to gossip here. LOL. Happy 2018 New Year.

  65. ValMonde says:

    The sad reality we now live in is one where a nuclear superpower lack the minimal intelligence needed to act in defense of its own national security interests, and that is really frightening.

    Besides Israel, neocons have no allegiance to country or nation. They don’t care how many goyim Americans have to die for Israel. The US army is just a blunt tool of zionism. And a world in chaos is good for the tribe.

  66. @Priss Factor

    It was Japan’s over-reaching that set the two nations apart and led to Pearl Harbor.

    It was that, but even more so it was the need for FDR to get the US into a war to distract the hoi polloi* from what was really going on vis a vis imposing more of a centralized police state on the rest of us, crush competitors, and to impose a Lloyd George and Wilsonian despotism on the rest of the world at the behest of certain international bankers.

    Today’s worldwide chaos shares many similarities with the chaos caused by the Red millionaires and bankster backed Bolshies of a century ago and in effect WW1 hasn’t yet ended.

    WW2 was unnecessary from the viewpoint of us proles and peasants, but so was WW1; nothing changes but the details and the fact that the American political and military puppets get played like trained seals by Israeli gangsters now instead of Brit goons back then.

    Even Wilson admitted the truth for once, but as usual he was a bit late to the party.:

    This war, in its inception was a commercial and industrial war. It was not a political war.

    - Woodrow Wilson, Speech at the Coliseum in St. Louis, Missouri, on the Peace Treaty and the League of Nations (5 September 1919), as published in “The Public Papers of Woodrow Wilson (Authorized Edition) War and Peace: Presidential Messages, Addresses, and Public Papers (1917-1924) by Woodrow Wilson Volume I Page 638. Addresses Delivered by President Wilson on his Western Tour – September 4 To September 25, 1919. From 66th Congress, 1st Session, Senate Document No. 120

    *Note to grammar Nazis, the phrase, as used, is correct.

  67. @anon

    Propoganda favors liars anyway, so if you are telling the truth you won’t win a propoganda debate. The election of Trump didn’t prove the elites are vulnerable to counter argument. On the contrary, the subjugation of Trump and turning him to global war proves the full power of the elite propaganda machine.

    All true.

    These elites will only fall through a real civil war, or when they eventually destroy themselves through mismanagement, greed, and over extension, as empires historically do.

    Option #1 won’t get it because violent revolutions and civil wars typically burn themselves out and get co-opted almost immediately by the usual scum. It appears to me that they have to destroy themselves as you suggest. Meanwhile the most they have to offer is chaos for the rest of us.

  68. yurivku says:

    Today I find myself inclined to think that psychologists are probably better suited to make predictions about the actions of the rulers of the AngloZionist Empire than military analysts.

    True.

    combination of delusional imbeciles and dishonorable cowards

    that is how we see the current US zoo. The percentage of silly clowns in US top rulers exceeds range of my imagination. it’s surreal picture – yes, drunk monkey with nuke grenade.
    I think that chances for WW3 are extremly high now.

  69. n230099 says:

    Until the young are educated in a manner to where their first question is “what kind of a dumbass goes in the military? “, this nonsense will continue.

  70. @Priss Factor

    Largely agree, but it has to be acknowledged that, so far, Syria has been a serious setback for the Anglo-Zionists.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  71. Miro23 says:
    @Priss Factor

    We need more on the right to call out on Trump, and we need more on the left to call out on likes of Obama and Hillary. And both sides need to focus on the Power above Trump-Hillary-Obama.

    Nothing’s going to happen until 1) the economy seriously goes down the tubes AND 2) the State condones (or engages in) violence against its opponents.

    In Spain 1936 the Republican government looked the other way (and their Bolshevik allies cheered) while 100′s of churches and religious buildings were burnt down with their priests murdered. This triggered tit for tat militia violence, and within that year the whole thing spiraled out of control into the Spanish Civil War

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  72. @Diversity Heretic

    Both theaters of war were can completely unnecessary.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  73. @Lana Kane

    Trump is the Republican Bill Clinton.

    And Clinton was the Dem Teddy Roosevelt.

    I said, “No, there is a great difference. Taft is amiable imbecility. Wilson is willful and malicious imbecility and I prefer Taft.”

    “[Teddy]Roosevelt then said : “Pettigrew, you know the two old parties are just alike. They are both controlled by the same influences…”

    - R. F. Pettigrew, “Imperial Washington,” The story of American Public life from 1870 to 1920 (1922), p 234

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt/search?q1=amiable;id=yale.39002002948025;view=1up;seq=7;start=1;sz=10;page=search;orient=0

  74. @Andrei Martyanov

    National Interest is neocon-lite, you can’t possibly be surprised by that. E.g. see this piece of nut-huggery:

    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/5-reasons-no-nation-wants-go-war-israel-22849

  75. onion says:
    @pet

    To add some points to Pet’s observations and to try to answer to peterAUS’s question:
    There is no “deep state” in Russia (or compulsory education for the top leaders) to keep the political elites and their policies in check. Everything depends on a whim of one or a few individuals. There is no long-term strategy or a national program that must be adhered to. Russian leaders are always on a learning curve, therefore such unbelievable blunders, and while they accuse the other side of being unpredictable, which is basically true, they are very much the same. The Russian leadership is very liberal and pro western and would probably be willing to “compromise” on the question of Donbass, however, all their advances are being rejected as the Americans are not taking anything short of outright surrender. Not having any soft power and relying strictly on the military might the Russians don’t have many realistic options left. They feel cornered and mostly that’s all their fault as I mentioned above some instances when they made themselves look very weak and indecisive, even submissive. They still operate in the same pattern. Personally, I think that Donbass is a bomb ready to explode. As the Saker used to say (for Americans), the Russians just might declare victory and leave Donbass to its destiny. The proper time for them to act was the days after the coup. They could have easily reinstated the legal President of Ukraine in just a few days or weeks and everything would have been forgotten by now. However, they acted contrary to their own interests as they did so many times in the last 30 years. In the meantime, the situation got much, much more complicated. In conclusion: it is in the nature of countries and peoples to sabotage and to fight its opponents and that’s exactly what the history is made of and what the West is doing to Russia. So, to blame the Americans for the Russian hardships today is quite misplaced. The Russian leaders were unfit and incompetent for too long time, very often working against own interest unopposed by anyone and that’s the main reason for the Russian predicament.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @EugeneGur
  76. The panicky and defensive tone speaks volumes. The fact that he tries to hype China as Russia’s ally shows that he knows just how weak the Russian Federation is. I loved the bit about Putin being a “master strategist” and the people around him being “very, very smart”. If that were true, of course, it wouldn’t need to be said, but, also, if it were true, Putin wouldn’t have panicked when Nuland messed up their joint anti-EU operation and painted himself into the corner he’s now in in Ukraine. Ditto in Syria. If Putin had stuck to his strategy as a mediator between Assad and the rebels, rather than making himself Assad’s protector, he wouldn’t now be irreversibly bogged down in Syria and a sitting duck for any US relaunch of the war. Equally, he’d have avoided snuggling up to Iran and made sure that Russian citizens didn’t get involved in attempts to manipulate the US and French presidential elections. He would also have made sure that Russian citizens didn’t supply rocket motors and, as we’ve now discovered, oil to North Korea. If that’s smart, then God grant us stupidity! In fact, Putin is an idiot, almost totally lacking in political savvy. The lesson of history is that people like Putin simply keep going until superior force is used against them. Since he’s goading the US to attack him, (over)confident, no doubt, in the ability of his American supporters to hamstring their own country to his advantage, he may well get his wish in 2018.

  77. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @Cyrano

    Remember the thing called Comintern? The communist international? I think it’s time for the formation of Nazintern – the Nazi international, where like minded people can come together and fight the commie legacy.

    The thought makes me giddy, but isn’t Nazintern what Americans did to Germans and Japanese in WWII? Imagine the possibilities for a new INSDWKAP (International National Socialist German World Capitalist Workers Party) movement. To English speakers it would sound like insidious capo. Hollywood would make movies glorifying it.

  78. geokat62 says:
    @Michael Kenny

    Since he’s goading the US to attack him…

    Congratulations, you are the consummate sophist. I am convinced you can effortlessly make “black” “white” and “up” “down.”

    Have you tried your hand at alchemy?

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  79. Joe Hide says:

    MisTo the Saker,
    You need to do more in depth research before publishing a 3500+ word article. On the surface it looks factual and developed, but to many of we reader’s who read literally millions of words and thousands of articles by hundreds of authors, it seems cobbled together from limited sources. The Trump administration, Putin, Xi, and their allies are doing a massive psych-op in taking down the entrenched cancer of multi-generational deviates who have held so much power for so long. Saker, even though I see the geopolitical game differently than you, I still give you credit credit as a gifted as a writer and will continue to read what you produce.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  80. @Beefcake the Mighty

    Largely agree, but it has to be acknowledged that, so far, Syria has been a serious setback for the Anglo-Zionists.

    Maybe not everything went as planned, but it cost very little in money and lives for US and Israel to mess up Syria for years to come.

    Syria is in ruins and lost maybe 400,000 lives. It lost many as refugees. It lost many ancient wonders.
    It is effectively fractured. Iran lost its share of man. And despite its lagging economy, it poured considerable sums into Iran. Hezobollah lost men in the war. Russia didn’t spend lotsa money, but given its hampered economy due to sanctions, it was rough going. And it was very stressful as it could have let to a major war. And EU suffered from war refugees.

    But what did US and Israel suffer? Unlike Iraq and Afghanistan, they destroyed an enemy nation on the cheap. They just channeled money and arms to various terrorist groups with the cooperation of Saudis, Turks, and Qatar. They mostly sat back and watched… with the full collusion of the Western Media. There is a romantic vision of journalists as seekers and tellers of truth who risk their own lives to get the story. But in recent events, it’s become clear that journalists are propagandists for war, imperialism, subversion, and lies. And their lies aid the Power in destroying lives.

    • Replies: @KA
    , @L.K
  81. This is an interesting article, but off the mark. America must act carefully because bringing a fight overseas is very different than bringing a fight next door. The costs and risks are high and unpredictable. The neocons don’t care because it is not their money, nor the lives of their family members. War is profit to them, but not to the soldier on the ground. Can America afford to loose South Korea and Japan? Can Russia and China afford to loose North Korea? Can America successfully wage a war against North Korea, Iran, Syria, simultaneously? The answer is a resounding NO, but the neocons know that, so what is the neocons motive? Profit! Here is the neocons logic, or lack of it, in a nutshell. America has nuclear weapons that they want control of. The reason for this is a totally insane and ignorant perspective of the world. As long as they have control of our nuclear arsenal, they can continuously wage countless wars on the ground that are not in our national interests, disregard the loss in life, the debilities, disabilities, and the staggering costs to our nation and our Military. The neocon motive behind these destructive wars is to weaken and destroy Israels enemies, whether real or contrived, or perceived, at the expense of our Nation and its people. Of course, this could well lead to a nuclear war if the wrong lines are crossed. The neocons deliberately underestimate the military might of Russia, China, and Iran so that war appears to be less costly and more accepting by our government and the people, but nothing could be further from the truth. Transporting war is costly, difficult and fraught with danger ( Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria). Trillions of dollars and thousands of American soldiers dead and disabled for life and for what? Profit! Trump is wise to sit out his presidency without war. Russia, China, Iran, Syria, Iraq, Libya pose no threat to American security. As for the profit of war, it goes only to the few, at the expense of the many. More to come.

    • Replies: @bluedog
  82. @n230099

    Until the young are educated in a manner to where their first question is “what kind of a dumbass goes in the military? “, this nonsense will continue.

    True.

    Another should be “how are my tax dollars being spent and why are they being spent that way?”

    Smedley Butler had some answers but even he only scratched the surface.

    Another one should be, “what kind of dumbass gives a standing ovation to a smirking, mindless monster not once, but repeatedly, and then votes to send it billions of dollars?”

    “Cui bono?” and the admonition to question everything still top the list though.

  83. KA says:
    @Priss Factor

    Hopefully all won’t be lost
    . The continued bleeding and losses of ISIS will expose the weakness of the corrupt Gulf countries and of S Arabia . Civil war might hit them or coup might transform the political orientation . This development might rob US of free hand in instigating trouble in future .
    Russia is more entrenched in Syria -in the heart of ME. Kurds have lost in Iraq. The fargmentation of Iraq along sectarian lines are pff the table .
    Developments in Pakistan -US relations might force Pakistan to gravitate to China more which also means Pakistan will side with Iran and Russia or at least be forced not to accommodate Saudi Jihadist against Iran, Russia and China.
    . Afghanistan is joining China Pakistan Business corridor and is planning to extend the plan further .
    The implications will take some time before the losses to Us become obvious. The task of Iraq Syria Iran will be to remain vigilant . Same is true for Russia and China.

    • Agree: L.K
  84. L.K says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Dumb-ass & mentally ill.. must have escaped from some loony bin…

    • Replies: @Cyrano
  85. peterAUS says:
    @Miro23

    Nothing’s going to happen until 1) the economy seriously goes down the tubes AND 2) the State condones (or engages in) violence against its opponents.

    Pretty much.
    Especially the first.

    What is lacking in all this “web chatter” is a serious look at “is war good for economy”.
    Experts appear to be split on that (at least that’s what my amateur research has pointed to) but, it appears that it does work for elites.

    I believe that history has proven that a successful (internal) revolution/big change happens only when a PART of elite becomes dissatisfied with the current state of affairs.

    If…..if….a war brings economic prosperity to the MOST of US/Western elites that answers the question.
    And we’ll have one.

  86. Vidi says:
    @Priss Factor

    What defeats? US achieved its real goal in [trashing Iraq, Libya, and Afghanistan].

    Defeats. The U.S. destroyed its global reputation for Israel’s sake. As the 128-9 vote on Jerusalem proves, the reputation’s just about dead.

    And reputation matters hugely. For example, the U.S. standard of living depends largely on being able to print dollars: the rest of the world pretends that the U.S. currency, which is backed by nothing, nevertheless is worth something. When an alternative emerges (such as China’s petroyuan backed by gold), the U.S. will be wishing mightily that it hadn’t destroyed its reputation.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @jacques sheete
  87. Vidi says:
    @exiled off mainstreet

    Great point. And like the Joker in the Dark Knight, how do you “win” against someone who just loves chaos?

    Only a good point for juveniles. The U.S. totally ruined its reputation by trashing Libya, and Syria, and Iraq. A comic-book villain like the Joker can avoid a catastrophic end because the publisher doesn’t want the fantasy to end. In real life, a bad reputation hurts enormously.

    • Replies: @Vidi
  88. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Michael Kenny

    If ((( you )))saw((( him )))topless riding a (((horse))) , you would know why (((everyone))) here loves((( him))) so much , even though((( his ))) (((mothers)))maiden name was (((Shalomova))) !!!!

    Every. Single . Time .

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  89. peterAUS says:
    @onion

    Agree with all you’ve said.

    Well, perhaps just a touch too “negative” about Russian leadership. They have been operating as a weaker party in this conflict during those 30 years and Putin’s team has had a lot of (impossible, actually) catching up to do.
    Not easy to be smart against a much stronger opponent.

    There is no long-term strategy or a national program that must be adhered to.

    I see Russian strategy as “rearguard action”. Constant retreating under pressure trying to put as much resistance as possible.
    Keep retreating hoping that the opponent will exhaust itself. Kutuzov strategy.
    That’s for those who actually do think about Motherland. Tiny minority in elites there.
    The rest are only buying time for themselves. Enjoy the ride as long as you can.
    Because, when you think about it, neoliberal model is the only one practically available now.

    As for Donbass, well……I …feel….that its chance of survival as some autonomy will have more with Ukrainan weakness than with Russian strength.
    Ukraine does not appear to be going from strength to strength. So, even relatively weak Donbass should have a good chance surviving.

    It will be interesting to see will West have enough of persuasive power to push Ukraine to attack Donbass during the World Cup.

  90. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Vidi

    Do you have a timeline for this ?

  91. bluedog says:
    @Boris M Garsky

    Your right of course but Trump will have his war or wars, for the fate of the dollar as the reserve currency hinges on destroying all those who are a danger to it, Iraq Libya are but two examples of those who strayed off the dollars path…

  92. Cyrano says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Thanks, I value your opinion so much. You stupid f**k.

  93. I did try very hard but I could not find anything wrong in this article.
    In my opinion there will not be too much change. Although the greatest push will be on Iran because that is what is the Israels wish. Considering Zionists Globalization it is now already entering Ice Age.

  94. @Vidi

    The U.S. destroyed its global reputation for Israel’s sake.

    It’s too bad that its reputation wasn’t destroyed when it entered two unnecessary wars a century ago for the international banksters’ sake.

    However, it should also have destroyed its reputation when Wilson appeased the Brits during the Versailles Conference, submitting to their demand to ignore Point II regarding freedom of the seas.

    Or it should have been destroyed when the US betrayed the Filipino independence fighters in 1899.

    The list of reputation-destroying activities is long enough to fill a large book. It should be called the United States of Hypocrisy.

  95. @pet

    Who cares! Russia now makes more money exporting food than exporting weapons.
    Under SU Russia was net importer of food.

  96. @anon

    Every. Single . Time .

    Every.

  97. L.K says:
    @Priss Factor

    Nothing much to it. It’s a war. Fact is the ZUS backed Jihadis have been losing steadily, of the 2 most powerful groups, ISIS defeated in Iraq – no thanks to ZUSA – and largely beaten in Syria too.
    Al-Qaeda in Syria* mostly confined to Idlib and a few other pockets…

    Are the Jihadists still being supported by the ZUSA coalition? You bet, support never really ended.

    * former Nusra front, now HTS.

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  98. @Cyrano

    Croatians make the best Slivovica. Don’t forget that. (Godfather)

    • Replies: @Cyrano
  99. Cyrano says:
    @L.K

    Who asked you for an opinion, you moron? You are so stupid not even Dr. Mengele can fix you.

    • Replies: @Alden
  100. L.K says:
    @Priss Factor

    You are wrong on so many counts…

    Russia: tiny casualties, most of their small expeditionary forces acting within normal budget.
    Enhanced influence in the region, tested weapon systems, got a lot of troops valuable experience( troops are rotated so a lot more soldiers are gaining experience.

    Iranian (proper)military losses: very light. Iranian influence, like Russia’s, has been enhanced.
    Experience gained, helped save a very important ally in Syria, enhanced its position in Iraq by hastily putting together and supporting the Popular Mobilization Units, which were key to stop ISIS advances and reverse them.
    By helping save Syria, Iran has helped Hezbollah, which would otherwise become totally isolated in a sea of hostile Salafi-Wahhabi hordes, not only in Syria, but also in Sunni parts of Lebanon, and by the Zio entity itself.
    Syria, after all, is Hezbollah’s main LOC, for weapons and ammo, both by Iran through Syria, as well as from Syria itself.
    This is very important since Hezbollah is an important component of Iranian deterrence.

    Hezbollah; lost more troops since it has been involved since 2013 and has deployed significant number of troops in various Syrian fronts, but it is on the winning side of the war, and it is now a much larger and more heavily armed and battle hardened force, to the zionists sorrow, than it had been when it beat them in 06. It has performed admirably well against the best Jihadist forces in Syria.

    When the Zionists provoked the US invasion of Iraq in 03, that was part of a bigger plan.
    Though this plan envisaged the destruction of the Saddam regime, since it supported the Palestinian cause, it certainly did not intend to improve Iran’s position and even its influence in Iraq.
    But that is exactly what happened.

    The war against Syria and with it the creation of ISIS was the Zionist attempt to reverse all that.

    ISIS would help other Jihadist groups destroy Syria, but also the Iraqi government that was considered too friendly towards Iran.
    Down the road, the group could also be used to justify an illegal ZUS military presence in these countries under the guise of fighting ISIS/terrorism.

    These machinations have largely been defeated, though there is still work to do.

    B, a retired German army officer who has been following and writing about this war since it started in 2011, has written a good piece on the situation in Syria.

    U.S. Surrenders On Syria – Resistance Turns Eyes On Israel

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/12/us-surrenders-on-syria-resistance-turns-eyes-on-israel.html#more

    …The U.S. “lets Assad stay” because there is simply nothing else it can do without waging a large scale war. It has tried everything else – and lost. In 2012 it attempted to assassinate Assad, but he wasn’t at the security meeting that the CIA blew up. It send 100,000 Takfiri fighters from all over the world to Syria and shipped in ten-thousands of tons of weapons and ammunition. The global anti-Syrian propaganda campaign in favor of the Takfiris was unprecedented. It tried to build a political opposition and sponsored it with hundreds of millions. It lastly invaded the country and tried to split it by force. It failed on all fronts.[...]

    Bottom line, the Zionist plan to destroy the “Shia crescent” from Iran to Lebanon has failed.
    That was their major goal with this war.

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  101. Why does Mr Saker use the term “Anglo-Zionist?”

    Does he mean that Brits have a double personality?
    Does he mean that Anglo-Saxons support Israel?
    Does he mean that the center of the Zionist project is in England?

    Why can’t he simply say the JEW word? For fear of the Jews?

    If we don’t name the JEW we get nowhere. What’s Saker afraid of? He’s already using a fake name.

    Why the veil over the real warmongers? Didn’t Philip Giraldi state that American Jewry is pushing US wars? (http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/)

    C’mon Saker, it’s no so hard once you practice a bit. Open your mouth and say JEW. Then write it down a few times.

    You’ll get the feel for freedom. Once you get the feel for it you’ll never be the same.

    +Brother Nathanael KAPNER @ http://www.realjewnews.com/

    • Agree: Alden, geokat62
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Hu Mi Yu
  102. Cyrano says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Who cares about Slivovica. Besides, that’s not true, Serbs make better Slivovica, Croats are better at making brandy – because they have so many vine growing regions.

    Croats are the most fanatical Catholics. I like to call them Wahhabi Christians, because they are that extreme about their “beliefs”.

    I guess that’s what happens when you don’t actually believe in God, but instead you believe in your religion.

    Here is a link for the zio-conspiracy theorists to salivate over:

    http://www.isracast.com/article.aspx?ID=544

  103. wayfarer says:
    @L.K

    By Way of Dishonor, Thou Shalt Do War
    source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossad

    “ISIS” ( Israeli Secret Intelligence Service ) has engineered one honey-trap after another, drawing in fundamentalism Muslims to slaughter their moderate Muslim “brothers,” and when the useful idiots are no longer required, exterminated within well coordinated ZUS L-shaped ambushes.

    There are no winners, in war.

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  104. wayfarer says:
    @wayfarer

    [edit: previous post]

    “… fundamentalist Muslims “

    By the way America, you’re better off staying home and waiting until war is at your doorstep. Then and only then, fighting it to the bitter end.

    This is the VA National Cemetery where my oldman is buried, in a destitute’s grave.
    source: https://www.cem.va.gov/cems/nchp/losangeles.asp

  105. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    Hello Brother Nathanael
    On your website you say that Jewry is destroying Christianity around the world. From the data we can see that many formerly Christian countries though out the middle east and Africa have turned to Islamic states through Christian genocide committed by Muslims .

    Furthermore if we examine the places that are most dangerous for Christians in this world we would discover that all of these places are in Islamic states .

    If we delve further and look at ongoing genocide against Christians we see Indonesian occupation of Papua has resulted in a genocide of over half a million Christian Papuans , Nigerian ongoing occupation of Biafra resulting in a genocide over 2 million Christians and Sudanese occupation of Darfur and South Sudan resulted in genocide of over a million Christians .

    In light of these revelations why would a ” Christian” like you spend your time whining about Jews ?
    Do you really think Jesus would approve of such things ? Watching silently and actively running interference on behalf of Muslims who are killing Christians by the millions ??

  106. Alden says:
    @Anonymous

    Quite means complete, but it’s often used for very. Saker uses it to mean maybe or possibly could have.

    I don’t comment on his articles because I don’t know anything about Russia and it’s conflict with Ukraine.

    But it strikes me that Saker is very overwrought and speculative. He’s obviously very pro Russian, anti Ukraine and anti American but his articles are all over the place

  107. EugeneGur says:
    @onion

    The Russian leaders were unfit and incompetent for too long time, very often working against own interest

    Russia’s had it share of incompetent leaders but the current ones are quite competent. They have only limited resource to deal with complex problem, and they do that more efficiently than most. That the West is at war with Russia is hard to deny – every type of war excluding the actual military one, although even that is going on in a disguised sort of way both in Ukraine and Syria. To blame the fact that Russia is not exactly thriving in this conditions on Russia itself is ridiculous. However, Russia managed to successfully cope with economic problems caused by the events in Ukraine, sanctions, oil prices, etc, and even come out ahead in some areas, not just militarily but also economically – this is also quite evident and is recognized even by the Western observers. At least, the notion “economy in tatters” is no longer popular in the West.

    They could have easily reinstated the legal President of Ukraine in just a few days or weeks and everything would have been forgotten by now.

    Yes, perhaps, they could’ve, by the military intervention, and then what? To have the entire Ukraine to occupy and feed plus the West’s sanction or more and for how long? Putin did what had to be done under the circumstances (Crimea) and what he was dragged into doing and could not afford not to do (Donbass), but the rest was clearly de trop.

    the Russians just might declare victory and leave Donbass to its destiny.

    You completely fail to understand the Russian strategy, my friend. The Russian will never do that. They are simply waiting for the events to run their inevitable course, both in Ukraine and in the West, which would eventually provide them with the window of opportunity to solve the Donbass problem without too high a cost for Russia, that is all.

  108. EugeneGur says:
    @Michael Kenny

    If that’s smart, then God grant us stupidity!

    Your players have been answered! You are such a great champion of Ukraine, so you’d be happy to know that good God did grant the Ukrainian “elites” all the stupidity he spared the Russian ones.

    if it were true, Putin wouldn’t have panicked when Nuland messed up their joint anti-EU operation and painted himself into the corner he’s now in in Ukraine.

    Who is now in the corner in Ukraine is Ukraine, my friend. Ukraine is going down so rapidly, it beats in speed even the most dysfunctional failed countries. I am sure Putin sympathizes with the plight of the Ukrainian people but it isn’t really his concern. He got what he wanted, and the rest will follow in due course.

    he wouldn’t now be irreversibly bogged down in Syria and a sitting duck for any US relaunch of the war.

    If by “bogged down” you mean that Russia got two permanent military bases in Syria on the Mediterranean, you are correct. This is by itself is not a bad outcome. The whole point of the article, which you apparently missed, is that the US is insane enough to do something preternaturally stupid that would plunge the wold into a war, and Syria might be the place where this’d occur. They might, however, not be so pleased with the Russian response to their provocation.

    Watching the American actions for the past couple of years, I personally do not believe the American elites’d do something that’d make a real Russian response inevitable, for their insanity is perfectly balanced by their cowardice. This is a good thing, in this context.

  109. Alden says:
    @Cyrano

    Readers are supposed to make comments and offer opinions. You are an Israeli Jew militant Zionist and propagandist who is on this site to argue with opinions that differ from Zionist propaganda.

    This is a free speech forum, not Facebook salon or any other venue for the dissemination of Zionist propaganda

  110. Wally says:
    @Priss Factor

    I concur with Priss Factor except for Syria.
    Syria has not gone Israel’s way, Russia has called the tune there.

    http://www.codoh.com

  111. Wally says: • Website
    @Diversity Heretic

    So why was the European Theater “necessary”?

    http://www.codoh.com

  112. @Anonymous

    Tell me your real full name with your email like every credible poster does on this site.

    Only then will I answer you since I don’t talk to anonymous objects.

    Brother Nathanael KAPNER @ http://www.realjewnews.com/

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @geokat62
  113. nsa says:

    Zero chance of blowing up Korea and less than zero chance of blowing up Venezuela……too far away to interest the conniving jooies who never take their eye off the main chance. Why would they waste their satrap’s assets?

  114. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    Yes I know your position is indefensible . You profess to be a Christian yet ignore genocide against Christians at the hand of Islamic regimes.

    If you were working to save Christian lives in occupied Papua for the past 30 years , perhaps Indonesia would not have killed 500,000 Christians. Instead you chose to make smoke screens , spread disinfo and ignore Christian genocide. WWJD ?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  115. Bayan says:
    @Priss Factor

    Agree. Strange though that some cannot see the obvious wreckage.

  116. geokat62 says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    … like every credible poster does on this site.

    Brother Nathanael, do not waste your time with these trolls… leave that to others.

    Keep doing the good work you’ve been doing. It is crystal clear to those who have eyes to see that you are a truth-teller and you are respected for your courage and integrity for doing so.

    Keep up the good fight, Brother.

    • Replies: @anon
  117. @Anonymous

    Why do you bother to read the Saker’s work if you already have all of the answers?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  118. geokat62 says:
    @anonymous

    Instead you chose to make smoke screens , spread disinfo and ignore Christian genocide.

    Rich, coming from a two-bit hasbarist.

    You guys literally wrote the book on making smoke screens and spreading disinfo. Unlike you, I can furnish the evidence to prove it. See Frank Luntz’s Global Language Dictionary.

    https://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/sf-israel-projects-2009-global-language-dictionary.pdf

  119. @Anonymous

    No, it’s US-Saudi-Israeli interventions masked by calling them ‘NATO humanitarian missions’ using Sunni jihadi proxies and by direct invasion that have destroyed countries such as Libya, Syria, Yemen and Iraq.

    • Replies: @anon
  120. @Philip Smeeton

    “but as most wars happen almost by accident”

    Nothing could be further from the truth, even Sam the Sham would struggle to top this as far as crafting falsehoods go.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  121. @n230099

    Your point is of critical importance. Time for the womenfolk to close up to all those serving like was done long ago in Greece.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  122. @geokat62

    I think it’s pretty obvious what Michael has tried his hand at, and often. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it’s caused him to walk using a white stick.

    • LOL: geokat62
  123. @L.K

    Not to mention the fact that Russia can now expect a vastly expanded customer base for it’s cost-effective military offerings due to such outstanding displays of performance and durability. Those new customers will be much less likely to buy from US and EU suppliers.

  124. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Jesse James

    What does Libya , Syria , Yemen and Iraq have to do with Christian genocide in Indonesian occupied Papua ?

    You don’t think that it is strange that a man the professes to be a Christian and a preacher has a website that is 99% larping about Jews ? What about Christian genocide . Zero articles about the genocide of Christian Papuans ? Zero articles about the genocide of Biafran Christians , zero articles about genocide of Christians in Sudan ? The guy is a fraud . How about Turkish occupation of Cyprus ? He does’nt even care about Greek orthodox Christians living under Turkish occupation ??

    • Replies: @KA
    , @KA
  125. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @geokat62

    According to Nathanael , you are not a credible poster , Geokat62 . You cleverly edited his words didn’t you ?

    Here is his original

    :”””” Tell me your real full name with your email like every credible poster does on this site.””””””””‘

    Here is your edited version :

    like every credible poster on this site

    See geokat, you are not a credible poster in the opinion of Brother Nathanael . Unless your real full name is Geokat62 !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Are you sure you want to be a D-rider / cheerleader for someone that thinks you are not credible ??
    Actually you don’t care . Your only criteria for D riding and cheerleading is that the person you are cucking for must hate Jews . Brother N fits the bill so mystery solved . LoL he still thinks you are not credible though ……………..

  126. @anon

    Are you in a competition for biggest idiot on this forum? Because you’re well in the lead.

    • Replies: @anon
  127. KA says:
    @anon

    from time.com
    “the world’s largest and most profitable gold mine, Grasberg, owned by Phoenix-based Freeport McMoran, lies just 60 miles from Paniai, a highland province around the size of New Jersey and home to 153,000 people. In 2015 alone, Freeport mined some $3.1 billion worth of gold and copper here. In addition, Papua boasts timber resources worth an estimated $78 billion.

    These riches are, however, a source of misery for Papuans, ensuring Indonesia’s powerful military maintains a suffocating presence. A 2005 investigation in The New York Times reported that Freeport paid local military personnel and units nearly $20 million between 1998 and 2004, including up to $150,000 to a single officer.”

    In one year year the company generates 1.5 billion $ But gives Indonesian 20 million $ . Not in one year but in 6 yrs . Not a bad deal for America . Now what did America get out of Israel by letting it commit genocide?

    • Replies: @anon
  128. KA says:
    @anon

    Israel created Christian Muslim tension in Sudan in 1960
    It created Biafra crisis It also put Idi Amin to power in 70s

    • Replies: @anon
  129. geokat62 says:
    @anon

    You cleverly edited his words didn’t you ?

    Me? I’m just a dumb goy… you give me too much credit.

    What Brother Nathanael did write was this:

    Tell me your real full name with your email like every credible poster does on this site.

    I have no issue furnishing this information to Brother Nathanael should he wish to have it. See the difference?

    Your only criteria… is that the person you are cucking for must hate Jews .

    Nice try. What I do is stand up for truth-tellers… and Bro Nat is one of the straightest shooters out there.

    Now, remind me, again… how do you say buzz off in Hebrew?

  130. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @KA

    Wow no end to what Israel can do !!!!You are an Israelophile non pareil .

    But back in reality : Nigeria killed 2 million Biafrans , Sudan killed 1 million + Darfuris and South Sudanese and Indonesia killed half a million Papuans .The genocides are on their hands .

    • Replies: @KA
  131. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @KA

    23,000 killed over a 50 year period is genocide ?
    Forget about Israel then because Russia committed super genocide 150,000 killed in Chechnya
    Indonesia committed extra super genocide 500,000 killed in Papua
    Sudan and Nigeria are off the charts genocide in the millions.

    • Replies: @KA
    , @KA
  132. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Sorry Beefcuck but you are both the biggest idiot and biggest cuck. Others aspire but you take the cake !!!!

    ps shouldn’t you be whining about Jews and cucking for Islam . I thought takkiyah trolls got paid by the word. Back to work , Dhimmi !!

  133. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Hide

    This was a puff piece written for the saker drones. People like you are not its target audience because it’s obvious it contains no actionable information. It is just something he will probably cite later “proving” he was right about something.

  134. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jesse James

    He’s written useful things in the past. Especially when it is about something he knows. This isnt one of those pieces.

  135. KA says:
    @anon

    Iraq war was brought by Israel .Israel didn’t kill any Iraqi but it’s foot prints are embossed in the memory of those who survived This includes the 1991 war 2003 was and the sanctions. So is Syriaan genocide . 1 thousand or 100 hundred doesn’t matter
    Also don’t forget that guy who class himself a philosopher ( some people call him rat ) from France who said ” I have met the Jihadist They would recognize Israel after Gaddafi is gone I have persuaded French president to attack Libya “

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
  136. KA says:
    @anon

    and Israeli instigation is evident in each of those cases

  137. Pirouette says:

    Very good analysis for a Russian who resides in the USA.
    My perspective from London is that you have failed to understand Tillerson.
    As you point out he is a proven adept at international business. Then you go on to say he is weak and ineffective for letting prima donna idiots at the UN walk all over him!
    This doesn’t make sense if you think about it. Some prima donna strutting her stuff is just the cover a man like Tillerson would welcome.
    We know Tillerson is a clever and wiley operator, so suffice to say he is in daily contact with Putin and the rest of the Kremlin crowd.
    If the truth be known I should think it is Tillerson alone that is keeping the US-Russia situation in hand.
    Trump is hamstrung by the Zionists, Haley is being massaged by Netanyahu, the incestuous deep state is busy grooming itself for more underhand behaviour.
    I believe that Tillerson is busy behind the scenes taking advantage of Trump’s brain dead acolytes and associates.
    As for WW3, that started in 2014, only most of the action has been behind the scenes with some obvious indications of tactics: Russia and China buying gold to take up the Gaddafhi banner of a gold based alternative to US dollars, an alternative banking and credit card system, BRICS, self sufficiency for Russia versus the West’s rhetoric against Russia, continued exploitation of the major drug producer Afghanistan, intervention in weak or defenceless countries like Syria and Iraq, the crypto currency bubble, sanctions, more sanctions, increased war material production.
    If Trump pushes too hard N Korea will decimate most of the South and annihilate Seoul, Incheon, Busan. If Trump attacks N Korea, Guam will be obliterated. I don’t believe N Korean missile guidance is up to hitting any US cities any time soon though.
    You have wishful thinking about the Ukronazis as you call them. While Ukraine is the obvious flash point there are many other possibilities on the soft underbelly of Russia.
    Things have reached such a state that the US will have to either create a false flag to justify attacking Russia or just back down. There is no support in Europe amongst the poor for the US. Most people secretly hate the US and see US forces as occupiers. The Americans have occupied Europe, uninvited, since 1944. That’s 73 years, and it is 73 years too long. See General Brooke’s comments on the reception he got from the French when his troops landed on D-day…most French saw the Allies as an alien occupying force that was going to disrupt their comfortable lifestyle under the Germans. Very telling. Though official propaganda would have you believe otherwise. Makes you wonder why there was such a problem for the Germans if the French were happy under their rule. Clearly we have missed something or the C-in-C of British forces made a mistaken observention. I think the Crimeans today would feel like the French of 1944.
    The crucial factor you missed out is the collapse of the EU. The English, the Catalans, many Italians, many Greeks want out of the EU. The vote in the UK is being ignored by the Establishment. The Spanish separatists are being oppressed. The Italians are being side stepped. The Greeks ripped off by Rothschild. How long can the dictators of Europe oppress the people and get away with it?
    With the collapse of the EU the US will be kicked out of Europe and our natural geographical ally Russia absorb most of Europe by natural common sense. Germany will join with Russia and the US will be yesterday’s flavour!
    The unification of Europe and Russia would create a new dominant power base. Europe’s 500 million people together with Russia’s 150 million would create an economic powerhouse to rival China and turn the US in to an irrelevant backwater.
    Between them, Rothchild and Junkers are creating a powder keg of revolution that should it explode will destroy all your predictions Saker.
    Very good article all the same Saker, keep up the good work but don’t ignore the oppressed chaos that is the EU.
    Happy New Year.
    Pirouette.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  138. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @KA

    Israel didn’t kill any Iraqi

    Exactly .

    . So is Syriaan genocide

    Perpetuated by the Alawite army of Bashar Assad .

    Also don’t forget that guy who class himself a philosopher ( some people call him rat ) from France who said ” I have met the Jihadist They would recognize Israel after Gaddafi is gone I have persuaded French president to attack Libya “

    Hmmm ” a guy said , I met another guy that said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!” . Doesn’t any more legitmate than that. Why that is absolute proof !!!!!!!! Hey and the proof is in the pudding. A guy said Libya would recognize Israel . Libya didn’t recognize Israel .Seems proof positive that you and ” a guy who met a guy that said ” are both full of Shiite.

    and Israeli instigation is evident in each of those cases

    Again when Nigerians occupy a territory and commit genocide on said population , it is only Nigerians to blame . When Indonesians occupy a territory and commit genocide on said population it is only Indonesians to blame .When Sudan occupies a territory and commits genocide on the population only Sudan is to blame . And what do you know, all the victims happen to be pro Israel , Biafrans, Papuans and South Sudanese . And all the aggressors are virulently anti Israel .Seems you are completely full of Shiite on every level. But what can you expect from a Takkiyah cuck .

    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @Jesse James
  139. KA says:
    @anon

    http://lobelog.com/neoconservative-delusions-on-azerbaijan/

    Makoiskkvy from JINSA is advising USA to use Azerbazan to hit Iran.

    His FOX interview is all about setting one set of people against another .

    this what happened in those African countries .

    • Replies: @anon
  140. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @KA

    Um no. Omar Bashir not only committed genocide on South Sudan but used a rape militia to “arabize” the population. Ethnic cleansing through rape. Janjawee militia. They were supported by Iran .

    The victims of genocide and targeted rape , South Sudan recognized Israel immediately following independence.

    Biafra and Papua( both pro Israel) , both vicitms of genocide at the hands of Islamic regimes .

    • Replies: @anon
  141. Druid says:
    @Harold Smith

    Trump himself said in an interview years ago that it would be easy to become president. Just lie and say whatever people want to hear.

  142. @Pirouette

    The Greeks ripped off by Rothschild.

    You are obviously one of the rare folks with a clue. Thank you.

    The problems flaring up in London in December 1825, ensued from the first major international banking crisis…When the banks stopped lending, Greece was no longer able to refinance its debt and so suspended repayments in 1827.

    This is where the “debt system” is similar to the present scenario: the French and British monarchies, and the Russian Tsar – the “Troika” of the time – approved of a loan to Greece and its emergence as an independent state in order to destabilize the Ottoman Empire. In exchange, in 1832, they signed a “Treaty on the sovereignty of Greece”… The repayment would be routed through the Rothschild Bank of Paris through which the London bankers would be paid. Greece must also reimburse the Troika’s expenses for installing this monarchy and for recruiting 3,500 Bavarian mercenaries to wage a war of “independence”.

    . only 20% of Greece’s loans actually arrived in Greece. The rest was diverted to paying Rothschild’s commissions, the fees of the mercenaries, their travel expenses to Greece and other expenses incurred in creating the monarchy.

    Since then, Greece has been living in a situation of permanent subordination, which has been even more manifest since 2010. Once again, public authorities joined hands to raise funds to pay private creditors: this time, the French, German, Belgian and Dutch banks.

    http://www.cadtm.org/Debt-is-a-determining-factor-in

    Germany will join with Russia and the US will be yesterday’s flavour!

    That, in fact, is a huge reason ww1 was waged against Germany, and a reason why it’s obvious that it ain’t over yet.

    PS: War or No War? War. As always. It’s a no-brainer!

  143. @NoseytheDuke

    Your point is of critical importance. Time for the womenfolk to close up to all those serving like was done long ago in Greece.

    Short, and like all of Aristophanes’ works, well worth a read. Funny but with a good point!

    Lysistrata, by Aristophanes

    https://www.archive.org/stream/lysistrata07700gut/alyss10.txt

  144. klak-klak says:

    You are completely delusional. Why have the front lines in Ukraine been static since late 2014? Do you think Russian war doctrines are still WW1? Why have there been no other fronts opened? Russia has a tactical geographical advantage against Ukraine, if they decided to attack, or envelope and destroy their forces by opening PROPER fronts and spearheads, using air superiority and tactical missile strikes. Yet nothing has happened for 3 and a half years now.

    More likely I think Russia will arm several other independence movements across the Eastern Ukraine as a response to US idiocracy. DPR/LPR representatives already mentioned this possibility. More likely I think is that the time will come for some regions of Ukraine enjoy life with Russia, and others live with minimum life support under the EU as an abused nation. They will not turn into an European Beverly Hills like some there might have thought.

    • Replies: @klak-klak
  145. klak-klak says:
    @klak-klak

    Reply was for Quartermaster comment #42.

  146. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    https://medium.com/@TwistedPolitix/the-lies-still-being-told-in-the-media-about-the-invasion-of-iraq-a846ce7cd126- Dedestabilizing the Middle East and Building Greater Israel

    S South is another example Israeli activist forced Bush Gov to pressure Sudan . Out of fear of attack on itself Sudan agreed to hold election.
    S Sudan today is mired in civil war . Israel is sending the military supplies to both camps of the warring factions of S Sudan. S Civilan are pouring into former oppressor Sudan .
    There is evidence of the Israeli hand in the death of S Sudan leader who was negotiating greater autonomy instead of independence .

  147. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @KA

    Google -Taki’s magazine Kissinger Connection

    The paper shows that post invasion Iraq anarchy and violence were created by Kissinger Wolofowitz and Scooter Libby.
    The 3 plans that Gardner initiated to stabilize Iraq were working . And that was the desire of American Christian and Iraqi Muslim .

    The evolving consensus peace and chances of productive strife- free Iraq and continued absence of Muslim – Christian fight strife violence was not desired and was not liked by the force that pushed Iraq war .

    They swung into action. Th y removed Gardner . They installed Paul Bremmer – long time Keep swinger protege . Bremm removed Gardner’s plan.

    Low and behold , the anarchy , the Christian Muslim violence , the genocidal attack on Christian soon started following Bremm on like his neocon shadow .

  148. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    Speaking for myself:

    Why does Mr Saker use the term “Anglo-Zionist?”

    Because that is what he means. Jews are not the center of the problem.

    Does he mean that Brits have a double personality?

    Yes.

    Does he mean that Anglo-Saxons support Israel?

    Overwhelmingly.

    Does he mean that the center of the Zionist project is in England?

    Quite possible. The Church of England adopted fundamentalist interpretations of the Old Testament a long time ago. Rabbis sometimes send Jew wannabes (those without a Jewish mother) there to get the proper indoctrination about Jewish miracles.

    Why can’t he simply say the JEW word? For fear of the Jews?

    Because he doesn’t place Jews at the center of world history, which is where they want to put themselves. You want to put them there too, Bro Nathaniel. Which brings to mind some interesting questions about the nature of your work.

  149. @Andrei Martyanov

    That’s the wrong reason for suggesting a significant Anglo American contribution to Kursk. The Soviets were able to concentrate because of the UK passing on intercepted Enigma messages about the German plans and positions. This was rarely done. Kursk was a great exception. Air power mattered in this concentration too and only about a third of the Luftwaffe was on the Eastern front. Sicilly did matter there.

  150. @anon

    The Saudis-US/NATO-Israelis use(-ed) ISIS/ Daesh/ al-Qeda against Syria’s army, civilian population, infrastructure and cities. That is the war crime. You do not even mention it.

    ” al-Qeda is on our side in Syria”. Jake Sullivan, US Dept. of State to Sec. of State Hillary Clinton, 02/12/2012.

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/al-qaeda-side-syria-wikileaks-email-proves-clinton-camp-knew/

    http://theduran.com/wikileaks-drops-syria-bomb-email-to-hillary-clinton-assures-her-aq-al-qaeda-is-on-our-side-in-syria/

  151. @Hu Mi Yu

    I’m glad I was able to clarify for you Saker’s ambiguous term, “Anglo-Zionist,” although it was my intent to show that the term is unintelligible.

    But no need to thank me, I’m not looking for brownie points. Saker could save his readers a lot of perplexity by just naming the JEW.

    Is that so hard? Phil Giraldi does it all the time without having to use a FAKE name like Saker so-and-so.

    And allow me to clarify another point to un-confuse you.

    If Jews crucified Christ (which they did) and called down a curse upon themselves and their progeny–known by Jews as the “Deicidal Curse” (I grew up as a Jew)–then INDEED Jews are at the center of history.

    All of history unfolds from Christ’s crucifixion and resurrection. Not a single “Anglo-Zionist” was there.

    +Brother Nathanael @ http://www.realjewnews.com/

    • Replies: @Hu Mi Yu
  152. Thirdeye says:
    @Priss Factor

    It’s like US-Japan’s relations. It got rocky cuz of disagreement over China and then Pearl Harbor. But had it not been for that, US-Japan relations would have been smooth throughout the 20th century.

    Not true. Things started going south between Japan and the Anglo-Americans at the end of WWI, when Japan was no longer useful for driving Germany out of the far east and protecting Commonwealth shipping in the Indian Ocean. The war had resulted in the rise of Japanese power in the far east and the southwestern Pacific and the Anglo-Americans were not going to accept that. The US fleet was deployed to the Pacific at the end of the war in opposition to the rise of Japan. At Versailles it was made clear to the Japanese that the Anglo-Americans regarded them simply as yellow men whose interests had to be subordinated. The Washington Naval Treaty was about maintaining Anglo-American hegemony in the far east and the Japanese knew it. US war planning during the early interwar years was centered on using the Philippines as a springboard against Japan.

  153. Thirdeye says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    I think the truly unnecessary WWII conflict was in the Pacific.

    It definitely was for Japan. The second Sino-Japanese war served no strategic interest for Japan. It was a costly stalemate that put Japan on a collision course with the US.

  154. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Kiza

    Yes, only the “enlightened” white racist scum are the intellectual posters on this site. Everybody else who does not subscribe to the majority view is a troll and fool.

    In the end, if I don’t agree with your view (many here refer to Europeans as honest, good, moral, etc., which is simply laughable from my point of view), you are a troll for me… and I don’t expect any less from the other side.

    I thank Mr.Unz for providing a portal to vent (or rant out) my feelings.

  155. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    (I grew up as a Jew)

    Thank you for clarifying my point.

    All of history unfolds from Christ’s crucifixion and resurrection.

    As if pagan Babylonian, Persian, Greek, Roman, Hindu and Chinese writers never existed.

    Not a single “Anglo-Zionist” was there.

    No one has suggested that Anglo-Zionism existed in the first century.

  156. Ben Frank says:

    China has ten times the economic power of Russia.
    If USA ends up in yet another tar-baby war, you will see that that war will be to the advantage of China.
    War is a racket.
    Peace is what we need.
    China, Russia, Iran and other large nations have legitimate spheres of influence where we need to stay out.

  157. Good analysis even though it’s depressing and scary.
    Here is an officer with honor, integrity, and courage:https://www.facebook.com/capsule.ninetynine.7/videos/1992321041038611/

  158. anonymous • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Israel will invade Syria to steal their oil.
    Dick Cheney and former US government officials will benefit through NJ company Genie Oil.

    https://www.trunews.com/article/genie-oil-the-syria-goldman-sachs-israel-isis-connection

  159. Cale says:
    @Priss Factor

    Afghanistan borders with Iran. That is why the US will never leave that country.

  160. @Michael Kenny

    China is indeed close to Russia; Putin and Xi are personal friends on top of it.

  161. tomso says:
    @Anon

    My my, you are a very clever one being able to work all that out all by yourself.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  162. Bellator says:

    With respect – there are no strategic reasons for war with any of these except NK and Iran. If those occur, neither will be big infantry type wars. Here’s why:

    NK — all the US needs to do is eliminate the NK nuclear capabilities. That can be done with air dropped bombs, and cruise missiles (some launched from US submarines). There is no need to invade NK. Sure, the Norks could shell Seoul with their few hundred artillery tubes that have the range. The SKs will eliminate those pretty quickly. SK may even move a few dozen miles across the DMZ, but will likely stop there – purpose being to eliminate all the NK artillery. At that point, the “war” will be over. No need to get suckered into a major land invasion of NK. It would be counter productive.

    Iran – unless Iran starts a war (and they might) against the Saudis and/or Israelis, the US will do nothing. But if Iran does start a conflict, all the US has to do is blockade the Gulf of Oman. At which point, Iran can’t sell oil shipped by freighters. Any conflict will be mostly naval, maybe some strikes against Iranian port facilities and some few cruise missile installations. Again, limited. Iran is already suffering due to water shortages and decrepit infrastructure, along with a restive population.

    Trump is a strategic thinker, and works closely with senior generals. None of them want any kind of big war, much less any land invasion war. So won’t happen.

    • Replies: @plonialmoni
  163. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Somehow American Christians must find the courage to resist the overwhelming influence of Jews, their organizations, and Israel in U.S. foreign policy.

    There are NO such Christians in Congress.

    What a bunch of cowards American Christians are that they have allowed this.

    We are led by sheep and cowards.

  164. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @tomso

    If so he is apparently more clever than the saker.

  165. @Priss Factor

    Insurance fraud is a terrorist attack?

  166. @oscar

    Aren’t you living in the past?

  167. @peterAUS

    Putin is a unpredictable master strategist and the folks around him are very, very smart.
    “I suggest reading this a couple of times. For a couple of reasons I’d leave to the reader.”
    -Prudent remark.

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