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Low-energy Jeb.” “Little Marco.” “Lyin’ Ted.” “Crooked Hillary.” Give Donald Trump credit. He has a memorable way with insults. His have a way of etching themselves on the brain. And they’ve garnered media coverage, analysis, and commentary almost beyond imagining. Memorable as they might be, however, they won’t be what last of Trump’s 2016 election run. That’s surely reserved for a single slogan that will sum up his candidacy when it’s all over (no matter how it ends). He arrived with it on that Trump Tower escalator in the first moments of his campaign and it now headlines his website, where it’s also emblazoned on an array of products from hats to t-shirts.

You already know which line I mean: “Make America Great Again!” With that exclamation point ensuring that you won’t miss the hyperbolic, Trumpian nature of its promise to return the country to its former glory days. In it lies the essence of his campaign, of what he’s promising his followers and Americans generally — and yet, strangely enough, of all his lines, it’s the one most taken for granted, the one that’s been given the least thought and analysis. And that’s a shame, because it represents something new in our American age. The problem, I suspect, is that what first catches the eye is the phrase “Make America Great” and then, of course, the exclamation point, while the single most important word in the slogan, historically speaking, is barely noted: “again.”

With that “again,” Donald Trump crossed a line in American politics that, until his escalator moment, represented a kind of psychological taboo for politicians of any stripe, of either party, including presidents and potential candidates for that position. He is the first American leader or potential leader of recent times not to feel the need or obligation to insist that the United States, the “sole” superpower of Planet Earth, is an “exceptional” nation, an “indispensable” country, or even in an unqualified sense a “great” one. His claim is the opposite. That, at present, America is anything but exceptional, indispensable, or great, though he alone could make it “great again.” In that claim lies a curiosity that, in a court of law, might be considered an admission of guilt. Yes, it says, if one man is allowed to enter the White House in January 2017, this could be a different country, but — and in this lies the originality of the slogan — it is not great now, and in that admission-that-hasn’t-been-seen-as-an-admission lies something new on the American landscape.

Donald Trump, in other words, is the first person to run openly and without apology on a platform of American decline. Think about that for a moment. “Make America Great Again!” is indeed an admission in the form of a boast. As he tells his audiences repeatedly, America, the formerly great, is today a punching bag for China, Mexico… well, you know the pitch. You don’t have to agree with him on the specifics. What’s interesting is the overall vision of a country lacking in its former greatness.

Perhaps a little history of American greatness and presidents (as well as presidential candidates) is in order here.

“City Upon a Hill”

Once upon a time, in a distant America, the words “greatest,” “exceptional,” and “indispensable” weren’t even part of the political vocabulary. American presidents didn’t bother to claim any of them for this country, largely because American wealth and global preeminence were so indisputable. We’re talking about the 1950s and early 1960s, the post-World War II and pre-Vietnam “golden” years of American power. Despite a certain hysteria about the supposed dangers of domestic communists, few Americans then doubted the singularly unchallengeable power and greatness of the country. It was such a given, in fact, that it was simply too self-evident for presidents to cite, hail, or praise.

So if you look, for instance, at the speeches of John F. Kennedy, you won’t find them littered with exceptionals, indispensables, or their equivalents. In a pre-inaugural speech he gave in January 1961 on the kind of government he planned to bring to Washington, for instance, he did cite the birth of a “great republic,” the United States, and quoted Puritan John Winthrop on the desirability of creating a country that would be “a city upon a hill” to the rest of the world, with all of humanity’s eyes upon us. In his inaugural address (“Ask not what your country can do for you…”), he invoked a kind of unspoken greatness, saying, “We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.” It was then common to speak of the U.S. with pride as a “free nation” (as opposed to the “enslaved” ones of the communist bloc) rather than an exceptional one. His only use of “great” was to invoke the U.S.-led and Soviet Union-led blocs as “two great and powerful groups of nations.”

Kennedy could even fall back on a certain modesty in describing the U.S. role in the world (that, in those years, from Guatemala to Iran to Cuba, all too often did not carry over into actual policy), saying in one speech, “we must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent or omniscient — that we are only six percent of the world’s population — that we cannot impose our will upon the other 94 percent of mankind — that we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity — and that therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.” In that same speech, he typically spoke of America as “a great power” — but not “the greatest power.”

If you didn’t grow up in that era, you may not grasp that none of this in any way implied a lack of national self-esteem. Quite the opposite, it implied a deep and abiding confidence in the overwhelming power and presence of this country, a confidence so unshakeable that there was no need to speak of it.

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If you want a pop cultural equivalent for this, consider America’s movie heroes of that time, actors like John Wayne and Gary Cooper, whose Westerns and in the case of Wayne, war movies, were iconic. What’s striking when you look back at them from the present moment is this: while neither of those actors was anything but an imposing figure, they were also remarkably ordinary looking. They were in no way over-muscled nor in their films were they over-armed in the modern fashion. It was only in the years after the Vietnam War, when the country had absorbed what felt like a grim defeat, been wracked by oppositional movements, riots, and assassinations, when a general sense of loss had swept over the polity, that the over-muscled hero, the exceptional killing machine, made the scene. (Think:Rambo.)

Consider this, then, if you want a definition of decline: when you have to state openly (and repeatedly) what previously had been too obvious to say, you’re heading, as the opinion polls always like to phrase it, in the wrong direction; in other words, once you have to say it, especially in an overemphatic way, you no longer have it.

The Reagan Reboot

That note of defensiveness first crept into the American political lexicon with the unlikeliest of politicians: Ronald Reagan, the man who seemed like the least defensive, most genial guy on the planet. On this subject at least, think of him as Trumpian before the advent of The Donald, or at least as the man who (thanks to his ad writers) invented the political use of the word “again.” It was, after all, employed in 1984 in the seminal ad of his political run for a second term in office. While that bucolic-looking TV commercial was entitled “Prouder, Stronger, Better,” its first line ever so memorably went, “It’s morning again in America.” (“Why would we ever want to return to where we were less than four short years ago?”)

Think of this as part of a post-Vietnam Reagan reboot, a time when the U.S. in Rambo-esque fashion was quite literally muscling up and over-arming in a major way. Reagan presided over “the biggest peacetime defense build-up in history” against what, referencing Star Wars, he called an “evil empire” — the Soviet Union. In those years, he also worked to rid the country of what was then termed “the Vietnam Syndrome” in part by rebranding that war a “noble cause.” In a time when loss and decline were much on the American brain, he dismissed them both, even as he set the country on a path toward the present moment of 1% dysfunction in a country that no longer invests fully in its own infrastructure, whose wages are stagnant, whose poor are a growth industry, whose wealth now flows eternally upward in a political environment awash in the money of the ultra-wealthy, and whose over-armed military continues to pursue a path of endless failure in the Greater Middle East.

Reagan, who spoke directly about American declinist thinking in his time — “Let’s reject the nonsense that America is doomed to decline” — was hardly shy about his superlatives when it came to this country. He didn’t hesitate to re-channel classic American rhetoric ranging from Winthop’s “shining city upon a hill” (perhaps cribbed from Kennedy) in his farewell address to Lincoln-esque (“the last best hope of man on Earth”) invocations like “here in the heartland of America lives the hope of the world” or “in a world wracked by hatred, economic crisis, and political tension, America remains mankind’s best hope.”

And yet, in the 1980s, there were still limits to what needed to be said about America. Surveying the planet, you didn’t yet have to refer to us as the “greatest” country of all or as the planet’s sole truly “exceptional” country. Think of such repeated superlatives of our own moment as defensive markers on the declinist slope. The now commonplace adjective “indispensable” as a stand-in for American greatness globally, for instance, didn’t even arrive until Bill Clinton’s Secretary of State Madeleine Albright began using it in 1996. It only became an indispensable part of the rhetorical arsenal of American politicians, from President Obama on down, a decade-plus into the twenty-first century when the country’s eerie dispensability (unless you were a junkie for failed states and regional chaos) became ever more apparent.

As for the U.S. being the planet’s “exceptional” nation, a phrase that now seems indelibly in the American grain and that no president or presidential candidate has avoided, it’s surprising how late that entered the presidential lexicon. As John Gans Jr. wrote in the Atlantic in 2011, “Obama has talked more about American exceptionalism than Presidents Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush combined: a search on UC Santa Barbara’s exhaustive presidential records library finds that no president from 1981 to today uttered the phrase ‘American exceptionalism’ except Obama. As U.S. News‘ Robert Schlesinger wrote, ‘American exceptionalism’ is not a traditional part of presidential vocabulary. According to Schlesinger’s search of public records, Obama is the only president in 82 years to use the term.”

And yet in recent years it has become a commonplace of Republicans and Democrats alike. In other words, as the country has become politically shakier, the rhetoric about its greatness has only escalated in an American version of “the lady doth protest too much.” Such descriptors have become the political equivalent of litmus tests: you couldn’t be president or much of anything else without eternally testifying to your unwavering belief in American greatness.

This, of course, is the line that Trump crossed in a curiously unnoticed fashion in this election campaign. He did so by initially upping the rhetorical ante, adding that exclamation point (which even Reagan avoided). Yet in the process of being more patriotically correct than thou, he somehow also waded straight into American decline so bluntly that his own audience could hardly miss it (even if his critics did).

Think of it as an irony, if you wish, but the ultimate American narcissist, in promoting his own rise, has also openly promoted a version of decline and fall to striking numbers of Americans. For his followers, a major political figure has quit with the defensive BS and started saying it the way it is.

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Of course, don’t furl the flag or shut down those offshore accounts or start writing the complete history of American decline quite yet. After all, the United States still looms “lone” on an ever more chaotic planet. Its wealth remains stunning, its economic clout something to behold, its tycoons the envy of the Earth, and its military beyond compare when it comes to how much and how destructively, even if not how successfully. Still, make no mistake about it, Donald Trump is a harbinger, however bizarre, of a new American century in which this country will indeed no longer be (with a bow to Muhammad Ali) “the Greatest” or, for all but a shrinking crew, exceptional.

So mark your calendars: 2016 is the official year the U.S. first went public as a declinist power and for that you can thank Donald — or rather Donald! — Trump.

Tom Engelhardt is a co-founder of the American Empire Project and the author of The United States of Fear as well as a history of the Cold War, The End of Victory Culture. He is a fellow of the Nation Institute and runs TomDispatch.com. His latest book is Shadow Government: Surveillance, Secret Wars, and a Global Security State in a Single-Superpower World.

(Republished from TomDispatch by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. iffen says:

    It looks as if we will survive 8 years of being proud of our country for the first time. We should be able to survive 4 years of making it great again.

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  2. woodNfish says:

    I think this post should be retitled, Engelhardt’s Delusion. What a load of bunk! Trump is the only candidate who has a truly conservative platform and who has been truly conservative throughout his entire campaign. You don’t like the fact that he insults the pansies and fakers in the race, Engelhardt? Too bad.

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    • Replies: @James O'Meara
    "You don’t like the fact that he insults the pansies and fakers in the race, Engelhardt? Too bad."

    Yeah, I'm getting so tired of the whole "Trump issues insults" line. If a liberal or leftist said the same things it would be lauded as "brilliantly provocative" etc. a la Jon Stewart Leibowitz. Or "You're no Jack Kennedy" etc.
    , @Leon Berton
    I just want to thank you and all the others here who took time to post very good responses to this absurd self-serving analysis by Engelhardt.
    , @boogerbently
    "I think this post should be retitled, Engelhardt’s Delusion."

    He spends 2000 words perfectly describing how arrogant, inaccurate and delusional our EMPIRE
    building has been, then "blames" a reasonable and realistic view (Trumps) on Trump.
    , @Bill
    What do you see in Englehardts's piece that I don't? He doesn't blame or insult Trump at all. He praises Trump as the first major American politician to step away from the delusional view of America as a city on a hill. He calls Trump a harbinger. Harbinger means announcer or messenger.

    I'm a Trump supporter, and I'm pleased with this piece.

    One problem is that he doesn't mention Jimmy Carter, the anti-Reagan, the man who gave the malaise speech, a man who looks better and better with each passing year.
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  3. @iffen
    It looks as if we will survive 8 years of being proud of our country for the first time. We should be able to survive 4 years of making it great again.

    Go Trump!

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  4. Mikeybikey says: • Website

    If the Donald wants to make America great again, he needs to start thinking about making America free – again. The great jazz will take care of itself and might even attach itself to him. Otherwise his admin will be just another big govt. failure.

    As far as calling a spade a spade, that’s not D’s fault, that’s the spade’s.

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  5. Renoman says:

    There are a lot of people who are just plain sick of whining, the Gays, the Blacks, the Muslims, the endless welfare junkies rich and poor, the banks the Rich and on and on and on. America is a Country where there are a whole lot of people just living from scam to scam, nothing riles a working man more than someone who doesn’t. He’s gonna be President, weather he can change anything is a big if, there’s a lot of feet in that trough. I wish him luck.

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  6. I dunno… I think Lying Ted is rather uninspired. How about something a little more alliterative, like Twitchy Ted or Touchy Ted or Two-faced Ted?

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    how about toady ted
    , @Stan d Mute

    Lying Ted is rather uninspired. How about something a little more alliterative, like Twitchy Ted or Touchy Ted or Two-faced Ted?
     
    How about his actual name? Rafael Eduardo Cruz - Canadian anchor baby! Good grief, first we can't mention Barack Hussein Obama's real name (or Soetoro like on his passport). Now we can't bring up Rafael Eduardo Cruz' real name either? Is this just prepping the populace for a President X? Maybe "President formerly known as Hillary"?
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  7. Eustace Tilley (not) [AKA "Schiller/Nietzsche"] says:

    It’s high time a major political figure pointed out how f****d America is. 18 trillion dollars in debt, a negative balance of payments in every quarter, rising rates of white suicide, a 70% black illegitimacy rate, a 50% Latino illegitimacy rate, Urban Yoot on dope, suburban housewives on Mother’s Little Helper, potholed streets and rusting bridges. The Great Transgender Bathroom Crisis shows how delusional Americans have become. California agriculture lurches toward drought-induced crisis as “climate change” alters weather patterns. The recent mass murders of marijuana growers in Ohio may be linked to a Mexican drug cartel: there is evidence of cockfighting, which points to Latinos.

    I, a former teacher, am a refugee from the American “educational” system. At a checkout line a few months ago, the teenaged cashier could not add 20 and 12 in her head. No wonder kids think Harriet Tubman is a greater historical figure than Andrew Jackson. They are little sponges for “progressive” propaganda, it seems.

    So, how is Obongo’s “Hope” and “Change” working out for us? How have “progressive” social policies been affecting the country since the “progressive” LBJ?

    Trump’s insults of his opponents are what https://www.heartiste.wordpress.com calls “alpha male game”. This shows Trump’s social intelligence. Why Engelhardt finds Trump so amusing is beyond my imagining.

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    oreobama the synagogue negro
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  8. @woodNfish
    I think this post should be retitled, Engelhardt's Delusion. What a load of bunk! Trump is the only candidate who has a truly conservative platform and who has been truly conservative throughout his entire campaign. You don't like the fact that he insults the pansies and fakers in the race, Engelhardt? Too bad.

    “You don’t like the fact that he insults the pansies and fakers in the race, Engelhardt? Too bad.”

    Yeah, I’m getting so tired of the whole “Trump issues insults” line. If a liberal or leftist said the same things it would be lauded as “brilliantly provocative” etc. a la Jon Stewart Leibowitz. Or “You’re no Jack Kennedy” etc.

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    Here in California the politicians can spout racial slurs at whites and never have any consequences.

    http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2006/08/san-diego-don-perata-crackers-slur.html

    If it were something against any other race, the nation would have gone into lockdown and activists would be calling for UN intervention.
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  9. stickman says:

    Engelhardt is neither a deep thinker nor a convincing advocate. However, his central thesis, that Trump has signaled the reality of American decline with his core campaign slogan, is quite apt. Liberals (potentially radicals, but suffering from undescended testes) simply are unable to tell it like it is. That’s why it happens to be a failed philosophy (if one may call it such) to the eyes and ears of the intuitive bullshhht detectors in those Americans whose educational levels do not surpass their common sense, their perspicacity, or their capacity for discernment.

    Whether it happens to be commonplace cognitive dissonance or some other debilitating factor, Engelhardt fails to realize that America is not American any more or that we happen to live in a ruptured Republic. Those who fail to recognize that the banksters took over this country with their bloodless (at the time) coup d’ etat on 12-24-1913 with their passage of the totally unlawful “Federal” Reserve Act. Since then they have been able to buy virtually every prostitician in sight as well as all major presstitutes, media-whores and other institutionalized graduates of instituitions of “higher” learning.

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    However, his central thesis, that Trump has signaled the reality of American decline with his core campaign slogan, is quite apt.
     
    Yeah, but so what? America has been in decline for 16 years (at least). I don't think there much advantage to denying the decline, do you? Can't do a damn thing about "decline" until you admit it's happened. While I'm not convinced (oh, my, by ANY stretch of the imagination) that Trump is going to reverse the decline ... still, acknowledging failure is the first step to recovery.
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  10. “Those who fail to recognize that the banksters took over this country with their bloodless (at the time) coup d’ etat on 12-24-1913 with their passage of the totally unlawful “Federal” Reserve Act.”

    This takes the ax to the root. The Federal Reserve Act contained the seeds of the destruction of our Republic. And yes. It was and is completely illegal. Thank President Wilson who also gave us World War One and the IRS.

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  11. Svigor says:

    A nation can survive anything but race-replacement.

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    A nation can survive anything but race-replacement.
     
    So Americans have a choice:

    build a wall with Trump, or

    go for self-genocide with the Clinton's:


    Today, largely because of immigration, there is no majority race in Hawaii or Houston or New York City. Within five years, there will be no majority race in our largest state, California. In a little more than 50 years, there will be no majority race in the United States. No other nation in history has gone through demographic change of this magnitude in so short a time … [These immigrants] are energizing our culture and broadening our vision of the world. They are renewing our most basic values and reminding us all of what it truly means to be American.

    Bill Clinton, commencement address at Portland State University in Portland, Oregon June 13, 1998
     

    The choice Americans make will determine not only the future of the founding European and African peoples of America, but also of the Europeans in Europe. What do Americans want: Third-Worldization and Islamification of the West, or do they want to deliver America, Europe and their shared cultural heritage to their own posterity. Are Americans ready to relinquish their place on the face of this earth to the teeming masses of Latin America, Africa, Asia, and the Middle-East, or are they determined to stand their ground?

    Apparently, America's best and brightest are for self-elimination. But those so despised-by-the-media, un-PC Trump supporters, apparently want to see their nation and its cultural tradition survive, which makes this potentially the most important American election in generations.

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  12. Discard says:

    American decline is visible in the fake manliness I see everywhere. Ultra-violent entertainments, tattoos, and jacked up 4wd trucks with shiny paint jobs. And very often, guns.

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    American decline is visible in the fake manliness I see everywhere. Ultra-violent entertainments, tattoos, and jacked up 4wd trucks with shiny paint jobs. And very often, guns.
     
    Oh, dear, the trendy are so indicative of whatever BS one is pushing, right?

    You don't see any "American decline" in the gross transfer of wealth from the productive class to the parasitic class, I take it? Gosh, not sufficiently personally offensive to you?
    , @stickman
    My own take on all that macho (fake manliness) bravado is that it is an unconscious reaction to the violent removal of their nascent man-hoods within approximately 24 hours of their hospital births.

    Yes, i'm talking about America's dirtiest and most shameful little secret, male neonatal radical circumcision ~ usually committed without anesthetic, occasionally leading to death on the spot (particularly with undiagnosed hemophiliacs) and also occasionally necessitating additional surgery to repair botched circ jobs.

    Both the Lancet and the Journal of American Medicine have stated quite clearly that there is no medical reason for the unspeakable practice. Muslims and Jews point to their religious reasons for the amputation. But do not the inviolable rights of the individual to the integrity of his own body ALWAYS supersede mere religious protestations and pretensions?

    The bodily discapacitation is relatively minor compared with the way the unkindest cut effects the psyche. Perhaps the most famous Jewish philosopher of the past millenium, Maimonedes, recommended circumcision for its effects in reducing the sex drive and making it less pleasurable. Consider for a moment that even the Bris, at the ripe old age of 8 days, is carried out after the boy has had some opportunity to bond with his mother, while in Goyish hospital births, that brief window of human affection is scarcely ajar. The violent restraints on his tiny limbs followed by unspeakable pain occurs prior to the development of consciousness. Thus the neonatal sexual child abuse is only "remembered" within the brainstem (lizard brain) and is rarely overcome in later life.

    So i see the relatively recent hypermasculinization of generally 3rd and 4th generation circumcised American males as an unconscious reaction to and psychic assuagement for their partial state of emasculation.

    , @Unapologetic White Man
    What's wrong with guns or with having them?
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  13. Greg S. says:

    Trump is the real deal, watch his foreign policy speech:

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    Very good speech!

    - against globalization
    - belief in a nation state
    - no nation building (GW Bush said the same thing before election, btw).
    - democracy is not for everybody. Let them be.
    - no more spreading of universal values but strengthening of our western values
    - new people in administration, no more those who are responsible for old mistakes who you see in NYT and in TV (did he mean neocons?)

    Too much yapping about Iran, however. He forgot to emphasize the threat of nuclear weapons that he did so well in his Tuesday victory speech over the threat of global warming.
    , @woodNfish
    Thank you for linking that video Greg. I did not get to watch it when Trump spoke and the LSM is ignoring it because they know it is strong stuff. I did note that Trump went out of his way to not blame Bush for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. I am sure he did that to pad his position with the RNC scum. He needs to do that to beat the bitch hillary.

    Great speech, good points, and all the more reason to support Trump.
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  14. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Rubbish !
    The last candidate with a shred of integrity and a chance to win is Trump.
    Either your being paid to denigrate Trump or your a pissed because Bernie or Cruz has no chance.
    In either case you are showing how emotions have your panties in a wad.

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  15. Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website

    I gave trump the “Crooked Hillary” slogan. About 2 months ago I (twice) tweeted trump to please consider using “Crooked Hillary” to brand her. No response, but now he is using it. Of course it is certainly possible that he or one of his advisors came up with it independently.

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  16. Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website

    what america and the developed West is really about is the use of propaganda to shape and mold minds, and to shape and mold the culture via the molding of minds. It all starts in the educational curriculum in elementary school. Our current culture is based on a certain version of history that is propagated starting in elementary school.

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    Yes,that Jews are and were noble victims of evil predisposed ant semites.
    Trump is the only American running for POTUS.
    The only logical choice for non self hating Americans,who can't hate themselves when its the Zionists who are the perps,along with their political traitors,of whom 87 said lets give them more!More and more and more.Buts its never enough!.
    Look at the witch hunt in Britain over a tempest in a thimble,if that.
    Pre -disposed anti semites,again.
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  17. Fandrich says:

    Uh, when did Trump state that “he alone” can make America great again? This is simply more of what has been going on since he started to run—others in the media putting words in his mouth that he never stated.

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  18. This whole article reads like a “duh, what rock have you been under for the past 9 years” moment.

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  19. bondo says:
    @The Alarmist
    I dunno... I think Lying Ted is rather uninspired. How about something a little more alliterative, like Twitchy Ted or Touchy Ted or Two-faced Ted?

    how about toady ted

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  20. bondo says:
    @Eustace Tilley (not)


    It's high time a major political figure pointed out how f****d America is. 18 trillion dollars in debt, a negative balance of payments in every quarter, rising rates of white suicide, a 70% black illegitimacy rate, a 50% Latino illegitimacy rate, Urban Yoot on dope, suburban housewives on Mother's Little Helper, potholed streets and rusting bridges. The Great Transgender Bathroom Crisis shows how delusional Americans have become. California agriculture lurches toward drought-induced crisis as "climate change" alters weather patterns. The recent mass murders of marijuana growers in Ohio may be linked to a Mexican drug cartel: there is evidence of cockfighting, which points to Latinos.

    I, a former teacher, am a refugee from the American "educational" system. At a checkout line a few months ago, the teenaged cashier could not add 20 and 12 in her head. No wonder kids think Harriet Tubman is a greater historical figure than Andrew Jackson. They are little sponges for "progressive" propaganda, it seems.

    So, how is Obongo's "Hope" and "Change" working out for us? How have "progressive" social policies been affecting the country since the "progressive" LBJ?

    Trump's insults of his opponents are what https://www.heartiste.wordpress.com calls "alpha male game". This shows Trump's social intelligence. Why Engelhardt finds Trump so amusing is beyond my imagining.

    oreobama the synagogue negro

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  21. fnn says:

    Most of what you need to know about Western/American decline you can get from Spengler’s short book, The Hour of Decision. It’s all there: feminism, left-wing welfare socialism, finance capitalism, low white birth rates and the hatred and envy of whites by the politically rising non-whites of the world. For contemporary details see Pat Buchanan’s The Suicide of a Superpower.

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  22. @woodNfish
    I think this post should be retitled, Engelhardt's Delusion. What a load of bunk! Trump is the only candidate who has a truly conservative platform and who has been truly conservative throughout his entire campaign. You don't like the fact that he insults the pansies and fakers in the race, Engelhardt? Too bad.

    I just want to thank you and all the others here who took time to post very good responses to this absurd self-serving analysis by Engelhardt.

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  23. “…but the ultimate American narcissist…”

    Shouldn’t that read, “but as one of the ultimate American narcissists…”? Hillary, another ultimate narcissist, is also a glaring sign of the American decline.

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  24. Agent76 says:

    April 27, 2016 Donald Trump’s Foreign Policy Speech

    Readers and foreign news organizations are asking me the meaning of Donald Trump’s foreign policy speech. On the surface, his speech is contradictory. Trump says he will rebuild US military might so that America will always be first. Yet Trump emphasizes that “we want to live peacefully and in friendship with Russia and China.” In a multi-polar world, there is no first country.

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/04/27/donald-trumps-foreign-policy-speech-paul-craig-roberts
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  25. Boris says:

    The idea that the US is in decline isn’t borne out by the data.The US is outperforming Europe and China has cooled off considerably. Certainly there are challenges, but there have always been challenges.

    Trump is, however, emblematic of a political decline. He embraces conspiracies (Birtehrism, climate change is a “hoax”) and fear. He substitutes loud ignorance for expertise. His supporters demand that the facts fit their worldview, and when they don’t, they find different facts. This is an issue on the left as well, but it hasn’t become a problem so far. It likely will.

    Trump appears headed for a huge loss. I doubt that will cause his supporters to reassess his viability as a candidate. The collapse is always just around the corner.

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    This is the most ignorant comment I have ever read at www.unz.com.

    "The idea that the US is in decline isn't borne out by the data." You obviously don't read Paul Craig Roberts or Mike Whitney. Government data are faked, just as drone strike news is faked, just as "War on Terror" news is faked, just as Evil Cop vs. Sweet Innocent Negro news is faked. Stop reading The Wall Street Journal and take a walk through any of America's major cities (if you dare).

    "Trump appears headed for a huge loss." This is written the day after he carried every single county in Tuesday's primary.
    , @Dave
    Yes, it's amusing when progressives engage in epic displays of psychological projection.
    You think Trump and his supporters embrace conspiracies and fear ?
    The left has been obsessed with conspiracies and fear mongering for 50 years.
    The various delusional rationalizations for black failure, such as institutionalized racism and structural racism and disparate impact and white privilege, are basically conspiracy theories cooked up by the white left.
    Progressives have been claiming fundamentalist Christians and neo Nazis are about 15 minutes from seizing power in the U.S. for decades. The SPLC funds itself almost exclusively on this type of fear mongering nonsense.
    The left rides from victory to victory at every level of academia and government and media and then claims the filthy white proles are about to start WWIII because they don't like being told to celebrate transgender bathroom access.
    The left has built an entire ethos out of ignoring uncomfortable facts and it is definitely already a problem.
    , @Da-Mith
    "The idea that the US is in decline isn’t borne out by the data."
    Yep...Everything A OK here in the USA.....ha ha ha ha ha ha .. If there was a God..I'd pray for him to help us all.... but it appears God got awful tired from creating the unending universe and now he is just too plumb tuckered out to help anyone....not to worry....all together now..... USA USA USA USA
    , @woodNfish

    The idea that the US is in decline isn’t borne out by the data.
     
    Yes it is.

    http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-03-03/donald-trump-has-a-point-about-american-decline

    http://dailysignal.com/2016/01/31/americas-economic-freedom-has-rapidly-declined-under-obama/

    http://www.heritage.org/index/country/unitedstates

    http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2015/12/09/the-american-middle-class-is-losing-ground/

    http://www.brookings.edu/research/opinions/2015/09/22-middle-class-incomes-shrinking-burtless

    http://www.epi.org/publication/stagnant-wages-in-2014/
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  26. ML says:

    Am I missing something, or did this article fail to mention that Trump is plaigarizing Reagan’s 1980 slogan “Let’s Make America Great Again”?

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/donald-trump-is-americas-stupidest-person-has-never-heard-of-google-20150325

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    Am I missing something, or did this article fail to mention that Trump is plaigarizing Reagan’s 1980 slogan “Let’s Make America Great Again”?
     
    LOL. Oh, no, Mr. Bill! Plagiarism!

    [hearty laughter] Like that's never happened before in national politics.
    , @Eustace Tilley (not)
    That's a laugh -- Rolling-Frat-Boy-Haven-Monahan-Rape-On-Broken-Glass-at-UVA-Stone calling Trump "America's Stupidest Person".
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  27. Thirdtwin says:

    The current preezy ran on the concept that America has never been great at all, as it was cursed from the beginning. Indeed, his first lady feels the same way, or at least she did until we asked for absolution by electing her husband. Obama has spent the last seven years punishing and hobbling America. Trump has a tough task ahead of him, but he’s clear-eyed about the situation.

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    Quite so. In fact, if the idea that he's the only president to use the term "American Exceptionalism," it's only because he's also the only one to explicitly disavow it even as he demonstrates how utterly ignorant he is of the phrase's meaning.
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  28. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Did the author just awaken from a 7-year coma? I can think of no other way he could be unaware of our current apologist-in-chief.

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  29. utu says:
    @Greg S.
    Trump is the real deal, watch his foreign policy speech:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMNpeCT8OQw

    Very good speech!

    - against globalization
    - belief in a nation state
    - no nation building (GW Bush said the same thing before election, btw).
    - democracy is not for everybody. Let them be.
    - no more spreading of universal values but strengthening of our western values
    - new people in administration, no more those who are responsible for old mistakes who you see in NYT and in TV (did he mean neocons?)

    Too much yapping about Iran, however. He forgot to emphasize the threat of nuclear weapons that he did so well in his Tuesday victory speech over the threat of global warming.

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  30. @Boris
    The idea that the US is in decline isn't borne out by the data.The US is outperforming Europe and China has cooled off considerably. Certainly there are challenges, but there have always been challenges.

    Trump is, however, emblematic of a political decline. He embraces conspiracies (Birtehrism, climate change is a "hoax") and fear. He substitutes loud ignorance for expertise. His supporters demand that the facts fit their worldview, and when they don't, they find different facts. This is an issue on the left as well, but it hasn't become a problem so far. It likely will.

    Trump appears headed for a huge loss. I doubt that will cause his supporters to reassess his viability as a candidate. The collapse is always just around the corner.

    This is the most ignorant comment I have ever read at http://www.unz.com.

    “The idea that the US is in decline isn’t borne out by the data.” You obviously don’t read Paul Craig Roberts or Mike Whitney. Government data are faked, just as drone strike news is faked, just as “War on Terror” news is faked, just as Evil Cop vs. Sweet Innocent Negro news is faked. Stop reading The Wall Street Journal and take a walk through any of America’s major cities (if you dare).

    “Trump appears headed for a huge loss.” This is written the day after he carried every single county in Tuesday’s primary.

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    faked
     
    You illustrated my point perfectly. Trump is a conspiracy theorist like you.

    This is written the day after he carried every single county in Tuesday’s primary.
     
    I believe Romney carried every single county in many more states. Winning a primary isn't winning the presidency.
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  31. @stickman
    Engelhardt is neither a deep thinker nor a convincing advocate. However, his central thesis, that Trump has signaled the reality of American decline with his core campaign slogan, is quite apt. Liberals (potentially radicals, but suffering from undescended testes) simply are unable to tell it like it is. That's why it happens to be a failed philosophy (if one may call it such) to the eyes and ears of the intuitive bullshhht detectors in those Americans whose educational levels do not surpass their common sense, their perspicacity, or their capacity for discernment.

    Whether it happens to be commonplace cognitive dissonance or some other debilitating factor, Engelhardt fails to realize that America is not American any more or that we happen to live in a ruptured Republic. Those who fail to recognize that the banksters took over this country with their bloodless (at the time) coup d' etat on 12-24-1913 with their passage of the totally unlawful "Federal" Reserve Act. Since then they have been able to buy virtually every prostitician in sight as well as all major presstitutes, media-whores and other institutionalized graduates of instituitions of "higher" learning.

    However, his central thesis, that Trump has signaled the reality of American decline with his core campaign slogan, is quite apt.

    Yeah, but so what? America has been in decline for 16 years (at least). I don’t think there much advantage to denying the decline, do you? Can’t do a damn thing about “decline” until you admit it’s happened. While I’m not convinced (oh, my, by ANY stretch of the imagination) that Trump is going to reverse the decline … still, acknowledging failure is the first step to recovery.

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  32. @ML
    Am I missing something, or did this article fail to mention that Trump is plaigarizing Reagan's 1980 slogan "Let's Make America Great Again"?

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/donald-trump-is-americas-stupidest-person-has-never-heard-of-google-20150325

    Am I missing something, or did this article fail to mention that Trump is plaigarizing Reagan’s 1980 slogan “Let’s Make America Great Again”?

    LOL. Oh, no, Mr. Bill! Plagiarism!

    [hearty laughter] Like that’s never happened before in national politics.

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  33. @Discard
    American decline is visible in the fake manliness I see everywhere. Ultra-violent entertainments, tattoos, and jacked up 4wd trucks with shiny paint jobs. And very often, guns.

    American decline is visible in the fake manliness I see everywhere. Ultra-violent entertainments, tattoos, and jacked up 4wd trucks with shiny paint jobs. And very often, guns.

    Oh, dear, the trendy are so indicative of whatever BS one is pushing, right?

    You don’t see any “American decline” in the gross transfer of wealth from the productive class to the parasitic class, I take it? Gosh, not sufficiently personally offensive to you?

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  34. Boris says:
    @Eustace Tilley (not)
    This is the most ignorant comment I have ever read at www.unz.com.

    "The idea that the US is in decline isn't borne out by the data." You obviously don't read Paul Craig Roberts or Mike Whitney. Government data are faked, just as drone strike news is faked, just as "War on Terror" news is faked, just as Evil Cop vs. Sweet Innocent Negro news is faked. Stop reading The Wall Street Journal and take a walk through any of America's major cities (if you dare).

    "Trump appears headed for a huge loss." This is written the day after he carried every single county in Tuesday's primary.

    faked

    You illustrated my point perfectly. Trump is a conspiracy theorist like you.

    This is written the day after he carried every single county in Tuesday’s primary.

    I believe Romney carried every single county in many more states. Winning a primary isn’t winning the presidency.

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    Boris: Perhaps you have yet to achieve the retirement years when you should have sufficient time to do a bit of research to bolster your assertions. You may not be aware of the origins of the very term "conspiracy theorist".

    How "conspiracy theory" came about was resultant of the American people going all cynical over the Warren Coverup Commission's "Magic Bullet Theory" to explain away the CIA's takedown of JFK in Dallas on 11-22-63. The Agency needed something to counter this threatening development of people no longer believing in "their" government and its official statements. So they devised the term "conspiracy theory" to denigrate those who would dare to question the official lies.

    How does it feel, Boris, to be snangled up in a spider's web, or to be adherent to flypaper?
    , @Eustace Tilley (not)


    If, at this point in American history, you are not a "Conspiracy Theorist", then you just aren't very bright.

    Turn your TV off and read some books (there are quite a few out there) on the JFK assassination. Read about the single bullet theory and why it is utterly impossible. Read about the Zapruder film, why it was edited, and what it shows. Read about the House of Representatives' study of the acoustics of Dealy Plaza. Read about bolt-action Mannlicher-Carcano rifles and how rapidly they can be fired. Read about the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald was no leftist at all, that the Fair Play for Cuba Committee was a CIA front organization, that Rafael Cruz, Sr. was a close acquaintance of Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans just before the assassination, that strip club owner Jack Ruby had ties to the Mafia which ran casinos and brothels in Cuba which were shut down by Fidel Castro who overthrew Fulgencio Batista.

    Read a few books about 9/11. You're in for a surprise if you are able to think at all (e.g.: Jet fuel cannot burn hot enough to melt steel. A professor at Brigham Young University named Dr. Steven E. Jones was fired for writing a paper pointing out this simple scientific fact). Why do you think this is an important question? Why did the official report on 9/11 (I have a copy in my library) not even list "WTC 7" in the index? Why did WTC7 collapse the very same afternoon that the Twin Towers collapsed, even though it was not hit by an airplane or even airplane debris? Kind of a coincidence (for people who can still think). Don't you think?

    , @WorkingClass
    Trump Ties Hillary In Latest National Poll

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-28/trump-ties-hillary-latest-national-poll
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  35. stickman says:
    @Discard
    American decline is visible in the fake manliness I see everywhere. Ultra-violent entertainments, tattoos, and jacked up 4wd trucks with shiny paint jobs. And very often, guns.

    My own take on all that macho (fake manliness) bravado is that it is an unconscious reaction to the violent removal of their nascent man-hoods within approximately 24 hours of their hospital births.

    Yes, i’m talking about America’s dirtiest and most shameful little secret, male neonatal radical circumcision ~ usually committed without anesthetic, occasionally leading to death on the spot (particularly with undiagnosed hemophiliacs) and also occasionally necessitating additional surgery to repair botched circ jobs.

    Both the Lancet and the Journal of American Medicine have stated quite clearly that there is no medical reason for the unspeakable practice. Muslims and Jews point to their religious reasons for the amputation. But do not the inviolable rights of the individual to the integrity of his own body ALWAYS supersede mere religious protestations and pretensions?

    The bodily discapacitation is relatively minor compared with the way the unkindest cut effects the psyche. Perhaps the most famous Jewish philosopher of the past millenium, Maimonedes, recommended circumcision for its effects in reducing the sex drive and making it less pleasurable. Consider for a moment that even the Bris, at the ripe old age of 8 days, is carried out after the boy has had some opportunity to bond with his mother, while in Goyish hospital births, that brief window of human affection is scarcely ajar. The violent restraints on his tiny limbs followed by unspeakable pain occurs prior to the development of consciousness. Thus the neonatal sexual child abuse is only “remembered” within the brainstem (lizard brain) and is rarely overcome in later life.

    So i see the relatively recent hypermasculinization of generally 3rd and 4th generation circumcised American males as an unconscious reaction to and psychic assuagement for their partial state of emasculation.

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    The bodily discapacitation is relatively minor compared with the way the unkindest cut effects the psyche.
    Perhaps the most famous Jewish philosopher of the past millenium, Maimonedes, recommended circumcision for its effects in reducing the sex drive and making it less pleasurable
     
    The removal of that skin which contains more nerve endings than any other part of the body, isn't to increase feeling!!! And just for those who have ever had sex with women, women who have given birth once or twice… well, pardoner, who you gonna call? the Taboo subject is still not something everybody wants to talk about. Who you gonna call?

    If you've got all that god intended you to have, you can feel the inside of a vagina a lot more no matter how big it is.

    Oh don't forget, the reason for a lot of the Sodomite activities might be traced to this intentional institutionalized monstrous Discapacitation. Barbarous too, and who brought this to America?
    It isn't wide practice in Europe, nor in Russia!

    My Dad had a huge uncut swans, one day where we worked, (the guys were rough and tumble,)I remember once Herman asked my dad, "Hey Ed, you ever eat pussy?'' Dad just indicated no, embarrassingly, not something he knows anything about. No.

    Trump said quite publicly, he's not into oral sex…! Well, that's a point in his favor, says me.
    , @Unapologetic White Man
    "So i see the relatively recent hypermasculinization of generally 3rd and 4th generation circumcised American males as an unconscious reaction to and psychic assuagement for their partial state of emasculation."

    I don't suppose you'd mind providing your research data and the methodology of same to support your theory.
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  36. stickman says:
    @Boris

    faked
     
    You illustrated my point perfectly. Trump is a conspiracy theorist like you.

    This is written the day after he carried every single county in Tuesday’s primary.
     
    I believe Romney carried every single county in many more states. Winning a primary isn't winning the presidency.

    Boris: Perhaps you have yet to achieve the retirement years when you should have sufficient time to do a bit of research to bolster your assertions. You may not be aware of the origins of the very term “conspiracy theorist”.

    How “conspiracy theory” came about was resultant of the American people going all cynical over the Warren Coverup Commission’s “Magic Bullet Theory” to explain away the CIA’s takedown of JFK in Dallas on 11-22-63. The Agency needed something to counter this threatening development of people no longer believing in “their” government and its official statements. So they devised the term “conspiracy theory” to denigrate those who would dare to question the official lies.

    How does it feel, Boris, to be snangled up in a spider’s web, or to be adherent to flypaper?

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  37. @The Alarmist
    I dunno... I think Lying Ted is rather uninspired. How about something a little more alliterative, like Twitchy Ted or Touchy Ted or Two-faced Ted?

    Lying Ted is rather uninspired. How about something a little more alliterative, like Twitchy Ted or Touchy Ted or Two-faced Ted?

    How about his actual name? Rafael Eduardo Cruz – Canadian anchor baby! Good grief, first we can’t mention Barack Hussein Obama’s real name (or Soetoro like on his passport). Now we can’t bring up Rafael Eduardo Cruz’ real name either? Is this just prepping the populace for a President X? Maybe “President formerly known as Hillary”?

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  38. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Svigor
    A nation can survive anything but race-replacement.

    A nation can survive anything but race-replacement.

    So Americans have a choice:

    build a wall with Trump, or

    go for self-genocide with the Clinton’s:

    Today, largely because of immigration, there is no majority race in Hawaii or Houston or New York City. Within five years, there will be no majority race in our largest state, California. In a little more than 50 years, there will be no majority race in the United States. No other nation in history has gone through demographic change of this magnitude in so short a time … [These immigrants] are energizing our culture and broadening our vision of the world. They are renewing our most basic values and reminding us all of what it truly means to be American.

    Bill Clinton, commencement address at Portland State University in Portland, Oregon June 13, 1998

    The choice Americans make will determine not only the future of the founding European and African peoples of America, but also of the Europeans in Europe. What do Americans want: Third-Worldization and Islamification of the West, or do they want to deliver America, Europe and their shared cultural heritage to their own posterity. Are Americans ready to relinquish their place on the face of this earth to the teeming masses of Latin America, Africa, Asia, and the Middle-East, or are they determined to stand their ground?

    Apparently, America’s best and brightest are for self-elimination. But those so despised-by-the-media, un-PC Trump supporters, apparently want to see their nation and its cultural tradition survive, which makes this potentially the most important American election in generations.

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  39. dahoit says:
    @Leftist conservative
    what america and the developed West is really about is the use of propaganda to shape and mold minds, and to shape and mold the culture via the molding of minds. It all starts in the educational curriculum in elementary school. Our current culture is based on a certain version of history that is propagated starting in elementary school.

    Yes,that Jews are and were noble victims of evil predisposed ant semites.
    Trump is the only American running for POTUS.
    The only logical choice for non self hating Americans,who can’t hate themselves when its the Zionists who are the perps,along with their political traitors,of whom 87 said lets give them more!More and more and more.Buts its never enough!.
    Look at the witch hunt in Britain over a tempest in a thimble,if that.
    Pre -disposed anti semites,again.

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  40. @ML
    Am I missing something, or did this article fail to mention that Trump is plaigarizing Reagan's 1980 slogan "Let's Make America Great Again"?

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/donald-trump-is-americas-stupidest-person-has-never-heard-of-google-20150325

    That’s a laugh — Rolling-Frat-Boy-Haven-Monahan-Rape-On-Broken-Glass-at-UVA-Stone calling Trump “America’s Stupidest Person”.

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  41. utu says:
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    I understand your feelings, but I don't think you can find another presidential candidate who stands anywhere near Trump's America First position. No matter who you think wrote his foreign policy speech, in it he says nothing different from what he has been saying all along. I quote:

    "No country has ever prospered that failed to put its own interests first. Both our friends and our enemies put their countries above ours. And we, while being fair to them, must start doing the same.

    We will no longer surrender this country, or its people, to the false song of globalism.

    The nation-state remains the true foundation for happiness and harmony. I am skeptical of international unions that tie us up and bring America down. And under my administration we will never enter America into any agreement that reduces our ability to control our own affairs."

    -- Donald Trump, Foreign Policy Speech, Washington DC, 27 April 2016
     
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  42. This article says everything I have already been thinking, so there’s that. But there is also this:

    When I was growing up, there was a preacher on a Denver TV station my parents had on in the morning every day when I was getting ready for school. This was the early 1970s. His name was Garner Ted Armstrong, and he preached every morning that the United States was a declining empire.

    He even sold his own book on TV, called The Modern Romans. He was telling us that the US was like the old Roman Empire, and that it was falling.

    The empire was collapsing in the early 1970s.

    So, there has been a feeling and a “meme” that America is in decline, for most of my life — and I am getting old. America has been collapsing since I have been in seventh grade.

    We are indeed in decline. But we still possess an enviable strategic position, recognized by our founders, that permanently provides us the opportunity to take care of our own interests while the Old World continues to stew in its own, apparently permanent, stink.

    A vote for Trump is a vote in favor of US, as in you and me, utilizing our strategic position in the world. It is a show of appreciation and recognition of what our forbears knew all those years ago:

    “Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people under an efficient government. the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.

    Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation? Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground?”

    –George Washington, Farewell Address, 1796

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  43. Eustace Tilley (not) [AKA "Schiller/Nietzsche"] says:
    @Boris

    faked
     
    You illustrated my point perfectly. Trump is a conspiracy theorist like you.

    This is written the day after he carried every single county in Tuesday’s primary.
     
    I believe Romney carried every single county in many more states. Winning a primary isn't winning the presidency.

    If, at this point in American history, you are not a “Conspiracy Theorist”, then you just aren’t very bright.

    Turn your TV off and read some books (there are quite a few out there) on the JFK assassination. Read about the single bullet theory and why it is utterly impossible. Read about the Zapruder film, why it was edited, and what it shows. Read about the House of Representatives’ study of the acoustics of Dealy Plaza. Read about bolt-action Mannlicher-Carcano rifles and how rapidly they can be fired. Read about the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald was no leftist at all, that the Fair Play for Cuba Committee was a CIA front organization, that Rafael Cruz, Sr. was a close acquaintance of Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans just before the assassination, that strip club owner Jack Ruby had ties to the Mafia which ran casinos and brothels in Cuba which were shut down by Fidel Castro who overthrew Fulgencio Batista.

    Read a few books about 9/11. You’re in for a surprise if you are able to think at all (e.g.: Jet fuel cannot burn hot enough to melt steel. A professor at Brigham Young University named Dr. Steven E. Jones was fired for writing a paper pointing out this simple scientific fact). Why do you think this is an important question? Why did the official report on 9/11 (I have a copy in my library) not even list “WTC 7″ in the index? Why did WTC7 collapse the very same afternoon that the Twin Towers collapsed, even though it was not hit by an airplane or even airplane debris? Kind of a coincidence (for people who can still think). Don’t you think?

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    Yes, I'm familiar with 9/11 conspiracy theories. And they are certainly a part of the political decline, although they are more fringe-y than birther conspiracies or climate change conspiracies, which are both enormously popular among Republicans.

    Of course there are many scientists and writers who have debunked the 9/11 nonsense. But then they just become part of the conspiracy. That's how this particular example of cognitive bias works.
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  44. @woodNfish
    I think this post should be retitled, Engelhardt's Delusion. What a load of bunk! Trump is the only candidate who has a truly conservative platform and who has been truly conservative throughout his entire campaign. You don't like the fact that he insults the pansies and fakers in the race, Engelhardt? Too bad.

    “I think this post should be retitled, Engelhardt’s Delusion.”

    He spends 2000 words perfectly describing how arrogant, inaccurate and delusional our EMPIRE
    building has been, then “blames” a reasonable and realistic view (Trumps) on Trump.

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  45. edNels [AKA "geoshmoe"] says:
    @stickman
    My own take on all that macho (fake manliness) bravado is that it is an unconscious reaction to the violent removal of their nascent man-hoods within approximately 24 hours of their hospital births.

    Yes, i'm talking about America's dirtiest and most shameful little secret, male neonatal radical circumcision ~ usually committed without anesthetic, occasionally leading to death on the spot (particularly with undiagnosed hemophiliacs) and also occasionally necessitating additional surgery to repair botched circ jobs.

    Both the Lancet and the Journal of American Medicine have stated quite clearly that there is no medical reason for the unspeakable practice. Muslims and Jews point to their religious reasons for the amputation. But do not the inviolable rights of the individual to the integrity of his own body ALWAYS supersede mere religious protestations and pretensions?

    The bodily discapacitation is relatively minor compared with the way the unkindest cut effects the psyche. Perhaps the most famous Jewish philosopher of the past millenium, Maimonedes, recommended circumcision for its effects in reducing the sex drive and making it less pleasurable. Consider for a moment that even the Bris, at the ripe old age of 8 days, is carried out after the boy has had some opportunity to bond with his mother, while in Goyish hospital births, that brief window of human affection is scarcely ajar. The violent restraints on his tiny limbs followed by unspeakable pain occurs prior to the development of consciousness. Thus the neonatal sexual child abuse is only "remembered" within the brainstem (lizard brain) and is rarely overcome in later life.

    So i see the relatively recent hypermasculinization of generally 3rd and 4th generation circumcised American males as an unconscious reaction to and psychic assuagement for their partial state of emasculation.

    The bodily discapacitation is relatively minor compared with the way the unkindest cut effects the psyche.
    Perhaps the most famous Jewish philosopher of the past millenium, Maimonedes, recommended circumcision for its effects in reducing the sex drive and making it less pleasurable

    The removal of that skin which contains more nerve endings than any other part of the body, isn’t to increase feeling!!! And just for those who have ever had sex with women, women who have given birth once or twice… well, pardoner, who you gonna call? the Taboo subject is still not something everybody wants to talk about. Who you gonna call?

    If you’ve got all that god intended you to have, you can feel the inside of a vagina a lot more no matter how big it is.

    Oh don’t forget, the reason for a lot of the Sodomite activities might be traced to this intentional institutionalized monstrous Discapacitation. Barbarous too, and who brought this to America?
    It isn’t wide practice in Europe, nor in Russia!

    My Dad had a huge uncut swans, one day where we worked, (the guys were rough and tumble,)I remember once Herman asked my dad, “Hey Ed, you ever eat pussy?” Dad just indicated no, embarrassingly, not something he knows anything about. No.

    Trump said quite publicly, he’s not into oral sex…! Well, that’s a point in his favor, says me.

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  46. DaveE says:

    People consistently underestimate the slick, well-rehearsed, immaculately packaged, highly polished product that “The Donald” is. Don’t let his seemingly “off the cuff” shtick fool you. Any idiot can make 1,285 versions of the same “speech” seem spontaneous and therefore, more believable and “honest.”

    A catatonic, mentally retarded six-year-old can see that America is in one filthy, god-awful mess. In no small part due to people like “The Donald” who have raped and pillaged this country to the marrow.

    I’m sure in his shrimp-cocktail munching, limousine chauffeur-ing, private jet-setting world where the little people do all the actual WORK, all it takes is another “deal” with the dirty-dealing banking mobsters to “make us great again.”

    Great at what? Making money by contributing NOTHING to the world? Profiting from the labor of others, like YOU have done? More weapons, more wars, more Bretton-Woods dirty deals?

    The biggest reason this country ain’t “great” anymore is because we were taken in by mobsters like YOU, Trump.

    Another genius marketing shtick by “The Donald” and his team of engineering-school-dropouts-turned-MBA-marketing jackoff blowhard mobster “managers”.

    The really sad part is that Trump seems almost likeable compared to the rest of the sewer scum competition.

    There ain’t nuthin’ left worth saving, Trump. People like YOU took it all for yourselves.

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    A catatonic, mentally retarded six-year-old can see that America is in one filthy, god-awful mess. In no small part due to people like “The Donald” ...
     
    Thing is, a catatonic, mentallly retarded six-year-old cannot do anything about the god-awful mess that he sees.

    At this stage, it probably requires a crook to fix a Amerika's crooked system. And Trump, whether you consider him a crook or not (in fact he has probably acted mostly within the law, which is as much as one can ask of a businessman, who must compete or die) clearly understands the system.

    Furthermore, Trump likely has good reasons to fix things:

    First, he's made his pile ;

    Second, he's an old man who looks back to the America of his youth—a time when New Yorkers were mostly either white or black, mostly English-speaking, however bizarre the accent, and the fellas wore cool hats—and thinks it was a better place than the Bush's, Clinton's, and Obama and their Neocon, globalist backers have made it, with its open borders, its drive to extinguish the identity of the founding white and black communities, and the ruthless export of the economy to the manual and intellectual sweatshops of Asia.
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  47. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Trump has a Conservative Platform…But does he have a pro-Native Born White American Platform….Will he bring back the Chinese Exclusion Act?

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  48. @utu
    Who wrote Donald Trump Foreign Policy Speech?


    https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2016/04/28/donald-trumps-presidential-foreign-policy-speech-to-written-by-globalist-think-tank-run-by-dov-zakheim-henry-kissinger-and-john-d-negroponte/

    I understand your feelings, but I don’t think you can find another presidential candidate who stands anywhere near Trump’s America First position. No matter who you think wrote his foreign policy speech, in it he says nothing different from what he has been saying all along. I quote:

    “No country has ever prospered that failed to put its own interests first. Both our friends and our enemies put their countries above ours. And we, while being fair to them, must start doing the same.

    We will no longer surrender this country, or its people, to the false song of globalism.

    The nation-state remains the true foundation for happiness and harmony. I am skeptical of international unions that tie us up and bring America down. And under my administration we will never enter America into any agreement that reduces our ability to control our own affairs.”

    – Donald Trump, Foreign Policy Speech, Washington DC, 27 April 2016

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    if it's true that "no country ever prospered that failed to put its own interests first" then why does Trump regurgitate the lie that Iran is and always must be USA's enemy, and that Israel is and always will be USA's friend and ally? When has Israel ever acted as a friend to USA, rather than just make demands on the superpower?

    Iran is in a position to assist USA in numerous ways; Iran was a 'friend' to USA for many years, including assisting US in Afghanistan right after 9/11; Trump's statement that Iran has "been trying to get Iraq's oil" is just ludicrous -- Iran has oil of its own! And Trump's complaint about Iran's treatment of American sailors was not even good theater. Just pathetic.

    Trump, the hotshot deal-maker, is willing to trash a pent-up demand market of 70+million Iranians, most of them younger & highly educated, in favor of the ultimate freeloader state, Israel. How does that make sense?

    Trump kvetches about NATO not pulling its weight but nary a peep about USA shelling out billions to Israel, which has not only never, ever aided USA in its (mis)adventures in the region but has demanded that USA protect Israel from the outcomes that Israel-demanded aggression that USA carries out in the region.

    Trump wants to spend more on US nuclear weapons. USA is signatory to NPT. By that treaty, USA & other nuclear-have states agree to divest of their nuclear weapons, not increase them. Or does your vision of USA not include living up to agreements signed onto?

    Trump holds the Kaganesque view that the USA has the right to tell other large nations -- like China -- where they may and may not act, even when those places are in the front yard of said nation, like the South China sea.

    Trump's FP speech contained the equivalent of a declaration of war on Iran, first by continuing the economic war US/Israel has been waging, and "maybe with military force" if Iran fails to "play by the rules," -- Trump really meant, play by OUR rules. Saudi Arabia and Israel are the unspoken and spoken parties and intended beneficiaries of a US led- and bled war on Iran; there is no upside to USA demonizing Iran. None.

    Trump's closing, rather lugubrious ruminations about "too many weapons" and "wanting peace" were wildly disconnected from his repeated statements about building up US military, killing ISIS, and using military force in places where USA really has no interest whatsoever in being aggressive, but does have an opportunity to create trade relations the way China has -- through commerce and actually respecting people, and not kow-towing to tiny problem-child Israel and recycling the same propaganda BS Israelis seem to actually think about themselves -- that they are beacons of "justice and peace" in the region.

    For all of you who luv Trump because he will put walls at USA's borders: Did it ever occur to you that borders work two ways: they define who stays out and who stays in. The USA has been trashing other people's borders for decades: No North Korean threatens the USA; Iran does not threaten the USA, but USA has dozens of bases and thousands of armed mercenaries and spies all over and around Iran. What would USA do if it were surrounded by dozens of military bases of a foreign entity?

    Trump and every other US pol is dishonest or delusional or both when they claim that because people in Syria, or Libya, or Egypt or Iran defend their own territory from incursions and attack by USA, that THEY are enemies to the USA: If Libyans or Syrians were in the continental USA and attacking it, THEN they would be enemies and USA would have a cause for grievance.

    Finally, Trump is the freshest mind of the mid-twentieth century; he still clings to USA "triumph" in WWII. He's the general who's fighting the last war that USA (mistakenly) thinks it won. Trump is stuck in a past that never was. Worse: he displayed his lack of critical acuity when he said:

    Unfortunately, after the Cold War our foreign policy veered badly off course. We failed to develop a new vision for a new time
     
    G H W Bush led USA "badly off course" when he invaded Iraq in 1991; he did so under the same false sense of having "saved the world" that Trump mimed in the opening of his speech. When Bush Jr. went in to finish the job, Bremer disbanded the Iraqi army in exact and self-conscious imitation of the USA de-Nazifification of Germany. USA learned nothing from its history because it learns the wrong lessons about US involvement in wars, and Trump does not have the intellect or intellectual honesty to see through those historical realities.

    --
    I'd sure like to read what Boyd Cathey thinks of Trump's FP speech. Boyd was right to think Trump was preferable to Cruz -- most anybody is -- but Trump's FP speech revealed his fundamental, underlying neoconservativism and destructive, mawkish pro-Israel stance.

    There's no way those two positions can be called "putting America first."
    , @utu
    Is Trump going to get rid of neocons?

    "That’s why I also look and have to look for talented experts with approaches and practical ideas, rather than surrounding myself with those who have perfect résumés but very little to brag about except responsibility for a long history of failed policies and continued losses at war. We have to look to new people. We have to look to new people because many of the old people frankly don’t know what they’re doing, even though they may look awfully good writing in The New York Times or being watched on television." http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/us/politics/transcript-trump-foreign-policy.html?_r=0

    Who did he mean by "those who have perfect résumés but very little to brag about except responsibility for a long history of failed policies and continued losses at war ?"
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  49. Dave says:
    @Boris
    The idea that the US is in decline isn't borne out by the data.The US is outperforming Europe and China has cooled off considerably. Certainly there are challenges, but there have always been challenges.

    Trump is, however, emblematic of a political decline. He embraces conspiracies (Birtehrism, climate change is a "hoax") and fear. He substitutes loud ignorance for expertise. His supporters demand that the facts fit their worldview, and when they don't, they find different facts. This is an issue on the left as well, but it hasn't become a problem so far. It likely will.

    Trump appears headed for a huge loss. I doubt that will cause his supporters to reassess his viability as a candidate. The collapse is always just around the corner.

    Yes, it’s amusing when progressives engage in epic displays of psychological projection.
    You think Trump and his supporters embrace conspiracies and fear ?
    The left has been obsessed with conspiracies and fear mongering for 50 years.
    The various delusional rationalizations for black failure, such as institutionalized racism and structural racism and disparate impact and white privilege, are basically conspiracy theories cooked up by the white left.
    Progressives have been claiming fundamentalist Christians and neo Nazis are about 15 minutes from seizing power in the U.S. for decades. The SPLC funds itself almost exclusively on this type of fear mongering nonsense.
    The left rides from victory to victory at every level of academia and government and media and then claims the filthy white proles are about to start WWIII because they don’t like being told to celebrate transgender bathroom access.
    The left has built an entire ethos out of ignoring uncomfortable facts and it is definitely already a problem.

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    The various delusional rationalizations for black failure, such as institutionalized racism and structural racism and disparate impact and white privilege, are basically conspiracy theories cooked up by the white left.
     
    The same people who threw rocks at MLK and Ruby Bridges still being racist a few years down the road isn't exactly a conspiracy theory. Not to mention the empirical evidence of racism. Like the fact that lots of racists like you exist.

    Progressives have been claiming fundamentalist Christians and neo Nazis are about 15 minutes from seizing power in the U.S. for decades.
     
    Fundamentalist Christians have already been in power. Neo nazis can certainly do a lot of damage, but nobody thinks they're going to seize power.
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  50. @Boris

    faked
     
    You illustrated my point perfectly. Trump is a conspiracy theorist like you.

    This is written the day after he carried every single county in Tuesday’s primary.
     
    I believe Romney carried every single county in many more states. Winning a primary isn't winning the presidency.
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  51. fnn says:

    That was quick, Hillary are now tied in the latest poll:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-28/trump-ties-hillary-latest-national-poll

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  52. Boris says:
    @Eustace Tilley (not)


    If, at this point in American history, you are not a "Conspiracy Theorist", then you just aren't very bright.

    Turn your TV off and read some books (there are quite a few out there) on the JFK assassination. Read about the single bullet theory and why it is utterly impossible. Read about the Zapruder film, why it was edited, and what it shows. Read about the House of Representatives' study of the acoustics of Dealy Plaza. Read about bolt-action Mannlicher-Carcano rifles and how rapidly they can be fired. Read about the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald was no leftist at all, that the Fair Play for Cuba Committee was a CIA front organization, that Rafael Cruz, Sr. was a close acquaintance of Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans just before the assassination, that strip club owner Jack Ruby had ties to the Mafia which ran casinos and brothels in Cuba which were shut down by Fidel Castro who overthrew Fulgencio Batista.

    Read a few books about 9/11. You're in for a surprise if you are able to think at all (e.g.: Jet fuel cannot burn hot enough to melt steel. A professor at Brigham Young University named Dr. Steven E. Jones was fired for writing a paper pointing out this simple scientific fact). Why do you think this is an important question? Why did the official report on 9/11 (I have a copy in my library) not even list "WTC 7" in the index? Why did WTC7 collapse the very same afternoon that the Twin Towers collapsed, even though it was not hit by an airplane or even airplane debris? Kind of a coincidence (for people who can still think). Don't you think?

    Yes, I’m familiar with 9/11 conspiracy theories. And they are certainly a part of the political decline, although they are more fringe-y than birther conspiracies or climate change conspiracies, which are both enormously popular among Republicans.

    Of course there are many scientists and writers who have debunked the 9/11 nonsense. But then they just become part of the conspiracy. That’s how this particular example of cognitive bias works.

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    Boris may speak of cognitive bias. He should know something about that as he is an ambulant example of cognitive dissonance.
    , @Unapologetic White Man
    Stop lying. You obviously don't know much if anything about the 9/11 conspiracy. A majority of those who have been asking the tough questions are engineers, architects, demolition experts, metallurgists, et cetera.
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  53. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @DaveE
    People consistently underestimate the slick, well-rehearsed, immaculately packaged, highly polished product that "The Donald" is. Don't let his seemingly "off the cuff" shtick fool you. Any idiot can make 1,285 versions of the same "speech" seem spontaneous and therefore, more believable and "honest."

    A catatonic, mentally retarded six-year-old can see that America is in one filthy, god-awful mess. In no small part due to people like "The Donald" who have raped and pillaged this country to the marrow.

    I'm sure in his shrimp-cocktail munching, limousine chauffeur-ing, private jet-setting world where the little people do all the actual WORK, all it takes is another "deal" with the dirty-dealing banking mobsters to "make us great again."

    Great at what? Making money by contributing NOTHING to the world? Profiting from the labor of others, like YOU have done? More weapons, more wars, more Bretton-Woods dirty deals?

    The biggest reason this country ain't "great" anymore is because we were taken in by mobsters like YOU, Trump.

    Another genius marketing shtick by "The Donald" and his team of engineering-school-dropouts-turned-MBA-marketing jackoff blowhard mobster "managers".

    The really sad part is that Trump seems almost likeable compared to the rest of the sewer scum competition.

    There ain't nuthin' left worth saving, Trump. People like YOU took it all for yourselves.

    A catatonic, mentally retarded six-year-old can see that America is in one filthy, god-awful mess. In no small part due to people like “The Donald” …

    Thing is, a catatonic, mentallly retarded six-year-old cannot do anything about the god-awful mess that he sees.

    At this stage, it probably requires a crook to fix a Amerika’s crooked system. And Trump, whether you consider him a crook or not (in fact he has probably acted mostly within the law, which is as much as one can ask of a businessman, who must compete or die) clearly understands the system.

    Furthermore, Trump likely has good reasons to fix things:

    First, he’s made his pile ;

    Second, he’s an old man who looks back to the America of his youth—a time when New Yorkers were mostly either white or black, mostly English-speaking, however bizarre the accent, and the fellas wore cool hats—and thinks it was a better place than the Bush’s, Clinton’s, and Obama and their Neocon, globalist backers have made it, with its open borders, its drive to extinguish the identity of the founding white and black communities, and the ruthless export of the economy to the manual and intellectual sweatshops of Asia.

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    True enough. I grew up in the same neck of the swamp and am only a little younger than Trump. I think he probably shares a lot of the same sentiments that I have.

    But dammit, I chose an honest path in life, choosing to make my living actually trying to make things that benefit the average joe and staying as far away as I could from The Mob that dictates who gets to be "the buyers and the sellers." In that respect I have about as much in common with Trump as Mother Theresa.

    Is it really too much to ask to have an honest, working-class president? I realize "yes" is probably the answer.

    Maybe I should just be happy with a president who had ANY job.
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  54. Boris says:
    @Dave
    Yes, it's amusing when progressives engage in epic displays of psychological projection.
    You think Trump and his supporters embrace conspiracies and fear ?
    The left has been obsessed with conspiracies and fear mongering for 50 years.
    The various delusional rationalizations for black failure, such as institutionalized racism and structural racism and disparate impact and white privilege, are basically conspiracy theories cooked up by the white left.
    Progressives have been claiming fundamentalist Christians and neo Nazis are about 15 minutes from seizing power in the U.S. for decades. The SPLC funds itself almost exclusively on this type of fear mongering nonsense.
    The left rides from victory to victory at every level of academia and government and media and then claims the filthy white proles are about to start WWIII because they don't like being told to celebrate transgender bathroom access.
    The left has built an entire ethos out of ignoring uncomfortable facts and it is definitely already a problem.

    The various delusional rationalizations for black failure, such as institutionalized racism and structural racism and disparate impact and white privilege, are basically conspiracy theories cooked up by the white left.

    The same people who threw rocks at MLK and Ruby Bridges still being racist a few years down the road isn’t exactly a conspiracy theory. Not to mention the empirical evidence of racism. Like the fact that lots of racists like you exist.

    Progressives have been claiming fundamentalist Christians and neo Nazis are about 15 minutes from seizing power in the U.S. for decades.

    Fundamentalist Christians have already been in power. Neo nazis can certainly do a lot of damage, but nobody thinks they’re going to seize power.

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  55. @Buzz Mohawk
    I understand your feelings, but I don't think you can find another presidential candidate who stands anywhere near Trump's America First position. No matter who you think wrote his foreign policy speech, in it he says nothing different from what he has been saying all along. I quote:

    "No country has ever prospered that failed to put its own interests first. Both our friends and our enemies put their countries above ours. And we, while being fair to them, must start doing the same.

    We will no longer surrender this country, or its people, to the false song of globalism.

    The nation-state remains the true foundation for happiness and harmony. I am skeptical of international unions that tie us up and bring America down. And under my administration we will never enter America into any agreement that reduces our ability to control our own affairs."

    -- Donald Trump, Foreign Policy Speech, Washington DC, 27 April 2016
     

    if it’s true that “no country ever prospered that failed to put its own interests first” then why does Trump regurgitate the lie that Iran is and always must be USA’s enemy, and that Israel is and always will be USA’s friend and ally? When has Israel ever acted as a friend to USA, rather than just make demands on the superpower?

    Iran is in a position to assist USA in numerous ways; Iran was a ‘friend’ to USA for many years, including assisting US in Afghanistan right after 9/11; Trump’s statement that Iran has “been trying to get Iraq’s oil” is just ludicrous — Iran has oil of its own! And Trump’s complaint about Iran’s treatment of American sailors was not even good theater. Just pathetic.

    Trump, the hotshot deal-maker, is willing to trash a pent-up demand market of 70+million Iranians, most of them younger & highly educated, in favor of the ultimate freeloader state, Israel. How does that make sense?

    Trump kvetches about NATO not pulling its weight but nary a peep about USA shelling out billions to Israel, which has not only never, ever aided USA in its (mis)adventures in the region but has demanded that USA protect Israel from the outcomes that Israel-demanded aggression that USA carries out in the region.

    Trump wants to spend more on US nuclear weapons. USA is signatory to NPT. By that treaty, USA & other nuclear-have states agree to divest of their nuclear weapons, not increase them. Or does your vision of USA not include living up to agreements signed onto?

    Trump holds the Kaganesque view that the USA has the right to tell other large nations — like China — where they may and may not act, even when those places are in the front yard of said nation, like the South China sea.

    Trump’s FP speech contained the equivalent of a declaration of war on Iran, first by continuing the economic war US/Israel has been waging, and “maybe with military force” if Iran fails to “play by the rules,” — Trump really meant, play by OUR rules. Saudi Arabia and Israel are the unspoken and spoken parties and intended beneficiaries of a US led- and bled war on Iran; there is no upside to USA demonizing Iran. None.

    Trump’s closing, rather lugubrious ruminations about “too many weapons” and “wanting peace” were wildly disconnected from his repeated statements about building up US military, killing ISIS, and using military force in places where USA really has no interest whatsoever in being aggressive, but does have an opportunity to create trade relations the way China has — through commerce and actually respecting people, and not kow-towing to tiny problem-child Israel and recycling the same propaganda BS Israelis seem to actually think about themselves — that they are beacons of “justice and peace” in the region.

    For all of you who luv Trump because he will put walls at USA’s borders: Did it ever occur to you that borders work two ways: they define who stays out and who stays in. The USA has been trashing other people’s borders for decades: No North Korean threatens the USA; Iran does not threaten the USA, but USA has dozens of bases and thousands of armed mercenaries and spies all over and around Iran. What would USA do if it were surrounded by dozens of military bases of a foreign entity?

    Trump and every other US pol is dishonest or delusional or both when they claim that because people in Syria, or Libya, or Egypt or Iran defend their own territory from incursions and attack by USA, that THEY are enemies to the USA: If Libyans or Syrians were in the continental USA and attacking it, THEN they would be enemies and USA would have a cause for grievance.

    Finally, Trump is the freshest mind of the mid-twentieth century; he still clings to USA “triumph” in WWII. He’s the general who’s fighting the last war that USA (mistakenly) thinks it won. Trump is stuck in a past that never was. Worse: he displayed his lack of critical acuity when he said:

    Unfortunately, after the Cold War our foreign policy veered badly off course. We failed to develop a new vision for a new time

    G H W Bush led USA “badly off course” when he invaded Iraq in 1991; he did so under the same false sense of having “saved the world” that Trump mimed in the opening of his speech. When Bush Jr. went in to finish the job, Bremer disbanded the Iraqi army in exact and self-conscious imitation of the USA de-Nazifification of Germany. USA learned nothing from its history because it learns the wrong lessons about US involvement in wars, and Trump does not have the intellect or intellectual honesty to see through those historical realities.


    I’d sure like to read what Boyd Cathey thinks of Trump’s FP speech. Boyd was right to think Trump was preferable to Cruz — most anybody is — but Trump’s FP speech revealed his fundamental, underlying neoconservativism and destructive, mawkish pro-Israel stance.

    There’s no way those two positions can be called “putting America first.”

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    I can see what you see in Trump speech but I want to see what @Buzz Mohawk sees.

    Trump said that he is against nation building. I remember when GW Bush said the same before election and I was hopeful. I was hopeful that Bush would be against the neocons who screwed over his father out of the second term after HW Bush tried to assert its independence from AIPAC in 1991. But AIPAC and neocons were able to use GW Bush as they wanted with a little bit of help of 9/11. His ignorance in foreign affairs they saw as their opportunity. In 1998 Richard Perle visited Bush in Austin, Texas and liked what he saw: a ‘Tabula Rasa’ on Foreign Affairs'. An empty cup can be filled. Nevertheless Bush worked on his foreign affairs knowledge even with the help from Prince Bandar and he was cognizant who were his father's enemies.

    http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=aearly1998bushtabularasa
    Former President George H. W. Bush calls on his longtime friend, Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and asks him to meet with his son, Texas Governor George W. Bush. His son has an important decision to make, the elder Bush tells Bandar, and needs the prince’s advice. Bandar flies to Austin, Texas, planning on using a visit to a Dallas Cowboys game as a “cover” for his visit. He lands in Austin, and is surprised when Governor Bush boards the plane before Bandar can disembark. Bush comes straight to the point: he is considering a run for the presidency, and though he already knows what his domestic agenda will be, says, “I don’t have the foggiest idea about what I think about international, foreign policy.” Bandar runs through his experiences with various world leaders, including the USSR’s Mikhail Gorbachev, Britain’s Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair, the Pope, and former US President Ronald Reagan. Finally, Bush says, “There are people who are your enemies in this country who also think my dad is your enemy.” Bandar knows Bush is speaking of US supporters of Israel, and wants to know how he should handle the Israeli-Jewish lobby as well as the neoconservatives who loathe both the Saudis and the elder Bush. Bandar replies: “Can I give you one advice?… If you tell me that [you want to be president], I want to tell you one thing. To hell with Saudi Arabia or who likes Saudi Arabia or who doesn’t, who likes Bandar or who doesn’t. Anyone who you think hates your dad or your friend who can be important to make a difference in winning, swallow your pride and make friends of them. And I can help you. I can help you out and complain about you, make sure they understand that, and that will make sure they help you.” Bandar’s message is clear: if Bush needs the neoconservatives to help him win the presidency, then he should do what it takes to get them on his side. “Never mind if you really want to be honest,” Bandar continues. “This is not a confession booth.… In the big boys’ game, it’s cutthroat, it’s bloody and it’s not pleasant.”

    We know the rest. It did not work out this way. The neocons won! AIPAC won! Whatever my hopes are with respect of Trump I think he will be outplayed as well.
    , @DaveE
    Brilliant, couldn't have put it better m'self.

    I almost hope Killary gets elected. (Well, electrocuted would be better.... but that ain't gonna happen.....)

    That's the only way the dumber-than-celery Torah-First crowd will see that Trump and Killary are merely different symptoms of the same, malignant, cancer.
    , @Greg S.
    Gramps, do you realize that out of all the remaining presidential candidates, Trump is the dove of the bunch on Iran? Hillary and her banker / military industrial backers would be at Iran's throat in 30 seconds. Cruz is downright insane in his rhetoric.

    All Trump is saying is that:
    1) Obama made a bad deal because he got nothing in return (I agree).
    2) Iran can't be allowed to have nukes (I agree).

    If Iran plays by the rules, they have nothing to worry about. Trump is the most moderate presidential candidate we've had in many. many years.
    , @Rurik

    Trump was preferable to Cruz — most anybody is
     
    and Hillary? Is not Trump preferable to Hillary?!

    this is the thing Gramps, the Zionists own and control everything of consequence in N. America (and Europe)

    they own the media outright. They own or control all the big banks. Their agents are entrenched in the military and intelligence agencies. The CIA is basically an arm of the Mossad.

    and you think Trump can get into the White House by dissing Israel? Think again.

    we have a reality that we all have to face. Their control over this country is almost absolute. That a man like Trump can even get near the levers of power only goes to show that their control is ALMOST absolute. Because if it were absolute, then a man like Trump would never stand a chance in hell.

    He said no to Jerusalem being the eternal capital of Israel.

    He said the wars were a mistake.

    He said we either have a country, or we don't

    he's said a lot of things that have the Zionists apoplectic.

    So my question to you Gramps, is - if not Trump, then who?
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  56. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    We have been in decline. The globalists that both Parties bow to have reduced the American population to just another 300 economic units in their financial games. People have finally woken up to the fact that “free trade” is a siren’s call to national suicide and reducing *all* the world to third world conditions, except for the enclaves of the globalists, of course.

    I’ve come to think Blomkamp’s film “Elysium” for all its faults might be the most prescient film of recent years (comparable to Lumet’s film “Network” and its predictions about the convergence of news and entertainment). Maybe it won’t get as extreme as the film shows, but there’s already talk of turning Silicon Valley (a leader in depriving fully qualified US citizens of skilled jobs) into its own state, and building artificial island nations. You have other companies like Disney abusing the H1B visa system, forcing American workers to train their replacements, all while making record profits. Intel laying off thousands while applying for a suspiciously similar number of H1Bs.

    A government should look out for its citizens first and foremost. That’s the whole point. What we have now is a government/corporation amalgam that only looks out for its own interests. Naysayers are bought off with subsistence welfare payouts, or suppressed/ignored because they thought we’d roll over and die (like one of the scumbag cucks at National Review recently wished for).

    Oops. We’re not rolling over and dying. Call us whatever names you like. This is war now. If not Trump then we’ll try again and again.

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  57. DaveE says:
    @CanSpeccy

    A catatonic, mentally retarded six-year-old can see that America is in one filthy, god-awful mess. In no small part due to people like “The Donald” ...
     
    Thing is, a catatonic, mentallly retarded six-year-old cannot do anything about the god-awful mess that he sees.

    At this stage, it probably requires a crook to fix a Amerika's crooked system. And Trump, whether you consider him a crook or not (in fact he has probably acted mostly within the law, which is as much as one can ask of a businessman, who must compete or die) clearly understands the system.

    Furthermore, Trump likely has good reasons to fix things:

    First, he's made his pile ;

    Second, he's an old man who looks back to the America of his youth—a time when New Yorkers were mostly either white or black, mostly English-speaking, however bizarre the accent, and the fellas wore cool hats—and thinks it was a better place than the Bush's, Clinton's, and Obama and their Neocon, globalist backers have made it, with its open borders, its drive to extinguish the identity of the founding white and black communities, and the ruthless export of the economy to the manual and intellectual sweatshops of Asia.

    True enough. I grew up in the same neck of the swamp and am only a little younger than Trump. I think he probably shares a lot of the same sentiments that I have.

    But dammit, I chose an honest path in life, choosing to make my living actually trying to make things that benefit the average joe and staying as far away as I could from The Mob that dictates who gets to be “the buyers and the sellers.” In that respect I have about as much in common with Trump as Mother Theresa.

    Is it really too much to ask to have an honest, working-class president? I realize “yes” is probably the answer.

    Maybe I should just be happy with a president who had ANY job.

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    But dammit, I chose an honest path in life, choosing to make my living actually trying to make things that benefit the average joe and staying as far away as I could from The Mob ... Is it really too much to ask to have an honest, working-class president?
     
    I certainly can't vouch for Donald Trump's integrity, but if you're building a steel-reinforced concrete high-rise and the Mob control the cement industry in your town, what you gonna do? Most people, I suspect, would do as Trump did and go ahead with the only available supplier.

    Anyhow, I suspect your decent, honest working man might be rather easily hoodwinked by the likes of Putin, Netenyahu, or Kim Jong Un, so Trump's life-time's practice in hype could be an asset in the White House: "set a thief to catch a thief," as my old mother might have said.

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  58. stickman says:
    @Boris
    Yes, I'm familiar with 9/11 conspiracy theories. And they are certainly a part of the political decline, although they are more fringe-y than birther conspiracies or climate change conspiracies, which are both enormously popular among Republicans.

    Of course there are many scientists and writers who have debunked the 9/11 nonsense. But then they just become part of the conspiracy. That's how this particular example of cognitive bias works.

    Boris may speak of cognitive bias. He should know something about that as he is an ambulant example of cognitive dissonance.

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  59. Bill says:
    @woodNfish
    I think this post should be retitled, Engelhardt's Delusion. What a load of bunk! Trump is the only candidate who has a truly conservative platform and who has been truly conservative throughout his entire campaign. You don't like the fact that he insults the pansies and fakers in the race, Engelhardt? Too bad.

    What do you see in Englehardts’s piece that I don’t? He doesn’t blame or insult Trump at all. He praises Trump as the first major American politician to step away from the delusional view of America as a city on a hill. He calls Trump a harbinger. Harbinger means announcer or messenger.

    I’m a Trump supporter, and I’m pleased with this piece.

    One problem is that he doesn’t mention Jimmy Carter, the anti-Reagan, the man who gave the malaise speech, a man who looks better and better with each passing year.

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  60. Da-Mith says:
    @Boris
    The idea that the US is in decline isn't borne out by the data.The US is outperforming Europe and China has cooled off considerably. Certainly there are challenges, but there have always been challenges.

    Trump is, however, emblematic of a political decline. He embraces conspiracies (Birtehrism, climate change is a "hoax") and fear. He substitutes loud ignorance for expertise. His supporters demand that the facts fit their worldview, and when they don't, they find different facts. This is an issue on the left as well, but it hasn't become a problem so far. It likely will.

    Trump appears headed for a huge loss. I doubt that will cause his supporters to reassess his viability as a candidate. The collapse is always just around the corner.

    “The idea that the US is in decline isn’t borne out by the data.”
    Yep…Everything A OK here in the USA…..ha ha ha ha ha ha .. If there was a God..I’d pray for him to help us all…. but it appears God got awful tired from creating the unending universe and now he is just too plumb tuckered out to help anyone….not to worry….all together now….. USA USA USA USA

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  61. this reads like our govt learned how to use propaganda under reagan and perfected it over the last 20 years after reagan.

    GG.

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  62. utu says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    if it's true that "no country ever prospered that failed to put its own interests first" then why does Trump regurgitate the lie that Iran is and always must be USA's enemy, and that Israel is and always will be USA's friend and ally? When has Israel ever acted as a friend to USA, rather than just make demands on the superpower?

    Iran is in a position to assist USA in numerous ways; Iran was a 'friend' to USA for many years, including assisting US in Afghanistan right after 9/11; Trump's statement that Iran has "been trying to get Iraq's oil" is just ludicrous -- Iran has oil of its own! And Trump's complaint about Iran's treatment of American sailors was not even good theater. Just pathetic.

    Trump, the hotshot deal-maker, is willing to trash a pent-up demand market of 70+million Iranians, most of them younger & highly educated, in favor of the ultimate freeloader state, Israel. How does that make sense?

    Trump kvetches about NATO not pulling its weight but nary a peep about USA shelling out billions to Israel, which has not only never, ever aided USA in its (mis)adventures in the region but has demanded that USA protect Israel from the outcomes that Israel-demanded aggression that USA carries out in the region.

    Trump wants to spend more on US nuclear weapons. USA is signatory to NPT. By that treaty, USA & other nuclear-have states agree to divest of their nuclear weapons, not increase them. Or does your vision of USA not include living up to agreements signed onto?

    Trump holds the Kaganesque view that the USA has the right to tell other large nations -- like China -- where they may and may not act, even when those places are in the front yard of said nation, like the South China sea.

    Trump's FP speech contained the equivalent of a declaration of war on Iran, first by continuing the economic war US/Israel has been waging, and "maybe with military force" if Iran fails to "play by the rules," -- Trump really meant, play by OUR rules. Saudi Arabia and Israel are the unspoken and spoken parties and intended beneficiaries of a US led- and bled war on Iran; there is no upside to USA demonizing Iran. None.

    Trump's closing, rather lugubrious ruminations about "too many weapons" and "wanting peace" were wildly disconnected from his repeated statements about building up US military, killing ISIS, and using military force in places where USA really has no interest whatsoever in being aggressive, but does have an opportunity to create trade relations the way China has -- through commerce and actually respecting people, and not kow-towing to tiny problem-child Israel and recycling the same propaganda BS Israelis seem to actually think about themselves -- that they are beacons of "justice and peace" in the region.

    For all of you who luv Trump because he will put walls at USA's borders: Did it ever occur to you that borders work two ways: they define who stays out and who stays in. The USA has been trashing other people's borders for decades: No North Korean threatens the USA; Iran does not threaten the USA, but USA has dozens of bases and thousands of armed mercenaries and spies all over and around Iran. What would USA do if it were surrounded by dozens of military bases of a foreign entity?

    Trump and every other US pol is dishonest or delusional or both when they claim that because people in Syria, or Libya, or Egypt or Iran defend their own territory from incursions and attack by USA, that THEY are enemies to the USA: If Libyans or Syrians were in the continental USA and attacking it, THEN they would be enemies and USA would have a cause for grievance.

    Finally, Trump is the freshest mind of the mid-twentieth century; he still clings to USA "triumph" in WWII. He's the general who's fighting the last war that USA (mistakenly) thinks it won. Trump is stuck in a past that never was. Worse: he displayed his lack of critical acuity when he said:

    Unfortunately, after the Cold War our foreign policy veered badly off course. We failed to develop a new vision for a new time
     
    G H W Bush led USA "badly off course" when he invaded Iraq in 1991; he did so under the same false sense of having "saved the world" that Trump mimed in the opening of his speech. When Bush Jr. went in to finish the job, Bremer disbanded the Iraqi army in exact and self-conscious imitation of the USA de-Nazifification of Germany. USA learned nothing from its history because it learns the wrong lessons about US involvement in wars, and Trump does not have the intellect or intellectual honesty to see through those historical realities.

    --
    I'd sure like to read what Boyd Cathey thinks of Trump's FP speech. Boyd was right to think Trump was preferable to Cruz -- most anybody is -- but Trump's FP speech revealed his fundamental, underlying neoconservativism and destructive, mawkish pro-Israel stance.

    There's no way those two positions can be called "putting America first."

    I can see what you see in Trump speech but I want to see what sees.

    Trump said that he is against nation building. I remember when GW Bush said the same before election and I was hopeful. I was hopeful that Bush would be against the neocons who screwed over his father out of the second term after HW Bush tried to assert its independence from AIPAC in 1991. But AIPAC and neocons were able to use GW Bush as they wanted with a little bit of help of 9/11. His ignorance in foreign affairs they saw as their opportunity. In 1998 Richard Perle visited Bush in Austin, Texas and liked what he saw: a ‘Tabula Rasa’ on Foreign Affairs’. An empty cup can be filled. Nevertheless Bush worked on his foreign affairs knowledge even with the help from Prince Bandar and he was cognizant who were his father’s enemies.

    http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=aearly1998bushtabularasa

    Former President George H. W. Bush calls on his longtime friend, Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and asks him to meet with his son, Texas Governor George W. Bush. His son has an important decision to make, the elder Bush tells Bandar, and needs the prince’s advice. Bandar flies to Austin, Texas, planning on using a visit to a Dallas Cowboys game as a “cover” for his visit. He lands in Austin, and is surprised when Governor Bush boards the plane before Bandar can disembark. Bush comes straight to the point: he is considering a run for the presidency, and though he already knows what his domestic agenda will be, says, “I don’t have the foggiest idea about what I think about international, foreign policy.” Bandar runs through his experiences with various world leaders, including the USSR’s Mikhail Gorbachev, Britain’s Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair, the Pope, and former US President Ronald Reagan. Finally, Bush says, “There are people who are your enemies in this country who also think my dad is your enemy.” Bandar knows Bush is speaking of US supporters of Israel, and wants to know how he should handle the Israeli-Jewish lobby as well as the neoconservatives who loathe both the Saudis and the elder Bush. Bandar replies: “Can I give you one advice?… If you tell me that [you want to be president], I want to tell you one thing. To hell with Saudi Arabia or who likes Saudi Arabia or who doesn’t, who likes Bandar or who doesn’t. Anyone who you think hates your dad or your friend who can be important to make a difference in winning, swallow your pride and make friends of them. And I can help you. I can help you out and complain about you, make sure they understand that, and that will make sure they help you.” Bandar’s message is clear: if Bush needs the neoconservatives to help him win the presidency, then he should do what it takes to get them on his side. “Never mind if you really want to be honest,” Bandar continues. “This is not a confession booth.… In the big boys’ game, it’s cutthroat, it’s bloody and it’s not pleasant.”

    We know the rest. It did not work out this way. The neocons won! AIPAC won! Whatever my hopes are with respect of Trump I think he will be outplayed as well.

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  63. utu says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    I understand your feelings, but I don't think you can find another presidential candidate who stands anywhere near Trump's America First position. No matter who you think wrote his foreign policy speech, in it he says nothing different from what he has been saying all along. I quote:

    "No country has ever prospered that failed to put its own interests first. Both our friends and our enemies put their countries above ours. And we, while being fair to them, must start doing the same.

    We will no longer surrender this country, or its people, to the false song of globalism.

    The nation-state remains the true foundation for happiness and harmony. I am skeptical of international unions that tie us up and bring America down. And under my administration we will never enter America into any agreement that reduces our ability to control our own affairs."

    -- Donald Trump, Foreign Policy Speech, Washington DC, 27 April 2016
     

    Is Trump going to get rid of neocons?

    “That’s why I also look and have to look for talented experts with approaches and practical ideas, rather than surrounding myself with those who have perfect résumés but very little to brag about except responsibility for a long history of failed policies and continued losses at war. We have to look to new people. We have to look to new people because many of the old people frankly don’t know what they’re doing, even though they may look awfully good writing in The New York Times or being watched on television.” http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/us/politics/transcript-trump-foreign-policy.html?_r=0

    Who did he mean by “those who have perfect résumés but very little to brag about except responsibility for a long history of failed policies and continued losses at war ?”

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    Who did he mean by “those who have perfect résumés but very little to brag about except responsibility for a long history of failed policies and continued losses at war ?”
     
    thx for link to willyloman @ #41, utu. That information -- that Trump takes advice from Walid Phares, Kissinger, Dov Zakheim, & Zalmay Khalilzad -- whom I consider to be in the neoconservative camp, suggests that Trump is not talking about getting rid of the Kagan Krime family, or the "experts" at WINEP or Wilson Center, Council on Foreign Relations, Atlantic Council and think tanks of that type, but rather the R2P chicks -- Susan Rice, Sam Power, Valerie Jarrett. Getting rid of them is a good thing, but hanging on to the Kagans and their fellow travelers is not a good idea.

    otoh I suspect (or wishfully think) Trump would pay no attention to Kristol and Rich Lowry -- they're yesterday morning's toast.

    Also, utu, Trump made that one reference to "no nation building," but he spent a lot of time talking about military buildup, using military force, expanding military weapons systems including air, navy and nukes. He may not be interested in nation building, but he sure is prepared to do some serious nation destroying, including using economic warfare (i.e. U S Treasury Dept to destabilize Russia & Iran) and cyber warfare. It seems to me that economic warfare equals shooting USA in the foot, it has never really achieved the goals intended in the target, and it erodes confidence in US as a trading partner.

    re the Saudi - Israel - Iran dynamic: In 2013 or 2014 (I forget which) Netanyahu said at the UN that "Israel and the Saudis are allies." The Saudis did not object. They used to be enemies but Arab Spring put the fear of the lord in the Saudi monarchy; Iran is actually far more democratic than Saudi Arabia -- or any other Arab state in the region; democratizing tendencies threaten the Saudis as much as Iran's support for Palestinians/Hezbollah/Hamas threatens Israel; so an Israeli-Saudi alliance against Iran is made in heaven -- for Israel, and hell on earth for Iran, and should frighten Americans, if they thought about it. With USA to provide muscle, intelligence, weapons, and the ability to strangle Iran economically thru banking system, it looks like Iran is the enemy du jour that is required to 1. slake Israeli psychosis, and 2. justify continuing military spending, weapons sales to KSA & Israel, & fear mongering to keep US domestic situation in check.

    Speaking of Palestine -- what would a Trump presidency mean for the I/P conflict? Will Palestinians end up ethnically transferred to Jordan; will Israel acquire total control of Golan & Gaza & West Bank? Or will Trump sustain the status quo, slow and steady immiseration of Palestinians?

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  64. DaveE says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    if it's true that "no country ever prospered that failed to put its own interests first" then why does Trump regurgitate the lie that Iran is and always must be USA's enemy, and that Israel is and always will be USA's friend and ally? When has Israel ever acted as a friend to USA, rather than just make demands on the superpower?

    Iran is in a position to assist USA in numerous ways; Iran was a 'friend' to USA for many years, including assisting US in Afghanistan right after 9/11; Trump's statement that Iran has "been trying to get Iraq's oil" is just ludicrous -- Iran has oil of its own! And Trump's complaint about Iran's treatment of American sailors was not even good theater. Just pathetic.

    Trump, the hotshot deal-maker, is willing to trash a pent-up demand market of 70+million Iranians, most of them younger & highly educated, in favor of the ultimate freeloader state, Israel. How does that make sense?

    Trump kvetches about NATO not pulling its weight but nary a peep about USA shelling out billions to Israel, which has not only never, ever aided USA in its (mis)adventures in the region but has demanded that USA protect Israel from the outcomes that Israel-demanded aggression that USA carries out in the region.

    Trump wants to spend more on US nuclear weapons. USA is signatory to NPT. By that treaty, USA & other nuclear-have states agree to divest of their nuclear weapons, not increase them. Or does your vision of USA not include living up to agreements signed onto?

    Trump holds the Kaganesque view that the USA has the right to tell other large nations -- like China -- where they may and may not act, even when those places are in the front yard of said nation, like the South China sea.

    Trump's FP speech contained the equivalent of a declaration of war on Iran, first by continuing the economic war US/Israel has been waging, and "maybe with military force" if Iran fails to "play by the rules," -- Trump really meant, play by OUR rules. Saudi Arabia and Israel are the unspoken and spoken parties and intended beneficiaries of a US led- and bled war on Iran; there is no upside to USA demonizing Iran. None.

    Trump's closing, rather lugubrious ruminations about "too many weapons" and "wanting peace" were wildly disconnected from his repeated statements about building up US military, killing ISIS, and using military force in places where USA really has no interest whatsoever in being aggressive, but does have an opportunity to create trade relations the way China has -- through commerce and actually respecting people, and not kow-towing to tiny problem-child Israel and recycling the same propaganda BS Israelis seem to actually think about themselves -- that they are beacons of "justice and peace" in the region.

    For all of you who luv Trump because he will put walls at USA's borders: Did it ever occur to you that borders work two ways: they define who stays out and who stays in. The USA has been trashing other people's borders for decades: No North Korean threatens the USA; Iran does not threaten the USA, but USA has dozens of bases and thousands of armed mercenaries and spies all over and around Iran. What would USA do if it were surrounded by dozens of military bases of a foreign entity?

    Trump and every other US pol is dishonest or delusional or both when they claim that because people in Syria, or Libya, or Egypt or Iran defend their own territory from incursions and attack by USA, that THEY are enemies to the USA: If Libyans or Syrians were in the continental USA and attacking it, THEN they would be enemies and USA would have a cause for grievance.

    Finally, Trump is the freshest mind of the mid-twentieth century; he still clings to USA "triumph" in WWII. He's the general who's fighting the last war that USA (mistakenly) thinks it won. Trump is stuck in a past that never was. Worse: he displayed his lack of critical acuity when he said:

    Unfortunately, after the Cold War our foreign policy veered badly off course. We failed to develop a new vision for a new time
     
    G H W Bush led USA "badly off course" when he invaded Iraq in 1991; he did so under the same false sense of having "saved the world" that Trump mimed in the opening of his speech. When Bush Jr. went in to finish the job, Bremer disbanded the Iraqi army in exact and self-conscious imitation of the USA de-Nazifification of Germany. USA learned nothing from its history because it learns the wrong lessons about US involvement in wars, and Trump does not have the intellect or intellectual honesty to see through those historical realities.

    --
    I'd sure like to read what Boyd Cathey thinks of Trump's FP speech. Boyd was right to think Trump was preferable to Cruz -- most anybody is -- but Trump's FP speech revealed his fundamental, underlying neoconservativism and destructive, mawkish pro-Israel stance.

    There's no way those two positions can be called "putting America first."

    Brilliant, couldn’t have put it better m’self.

    I almost hope Killary gets elected. (Well, electrocuted would be better…. but that ain’t gonna happen…..)

    That’s the only way the dumber-than-celery Torah-First crowd will see that Trump and Killary are merely different symptoms of the same, malignant, cancer.

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  65. Greg S. says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    if it's true that "no country ever prospered that failed to put its own interests first" then why does Trump regurgitate the lie that Iran is and always must be USA's enemy, and that Israel is and always will be USA's friend and ally? When has Israel ever acted as a friend to USA, rather than just make demands on the superpower?

    Iran is in a position to assist USA in numerous ways; Iran was a 'friend' to USA for many years, including assisting US in Afghanistan right after 9/11; Trump's statement that Iran has "been trying to get Iraq's oil" is just ludicrous -- Iran has oil of its own! And Trump's complaint about Iran's treatment of American sailors was not even good theater. Just pathetic.

    Trump, the hotshot deal-maker, is willing to trash a pent-up demand market of 70+million Iranians, most of them younger & highly educated, in favor of the ultimate freeloader state, Israel. How does that make sense?

    Trump kvetches about NATO not pulling its weight but nary a peep about USA shelling out billions to Israel, which has not only never, ever aided USA in its (mis)adventures in the region but has demanded that USA protect Israel from the outcomes that Israel-demanded aggression that USA carries out in the region.

    Trump wants to spend more on US nuclear weapons. USA is signatory to NPT. By that treaty, USA & other nuclear-have states agree to divest of their nuclear weapons, not increase them. Or does your vision of USA not include living up to agreements signed onto?

    Trump holds the Kaganesque view that the USA has the right to tell other large nations -- like China -- where they may and may not act, even when those places are in the front yard of said nation, like the South China sea.

    Trump's FP speech contained the equivalent of a declaration of war on Iran, first by continuing the economic war US/Israel has been waging, and "maybe with military force" if Iran fails to "play by the rules," -- Trump really meant, play by OUR rules. Saudi Arabia and Israel are the unspoken and spoken parties and intended beneficiaries of a US led- and bled war on Iran; there is no upside to USA demonizing Iran. None.

    Trump's closing, rather lugubrious ruminations about "too many weapons" and "wanting peace" were wildly disconnected from his repeated statements about building up US military, killing ISIS, and using military force in places where USA really has no interest whatsoever in being aggressive, but does have an opportunity to create trade relations the way China has -- through commerce and actually respecting people, and not kow-towing to tiny problem-child Israel and recycling the same propaganda BS Israelis seem to actually think about themselves -- that they are beacons of "justice and peace" in the region.

    For all of you who luv Trump because he will put walls at USA's borders: Did it ever occur to you that borders work two ways: they define who stays out and who stays in. The USA has been trashing other people's borders for decades: No North Korean threatens the USA; Iran does not threaten the USA, but USA has dozens of bases and thousands of armed mercenaries and spies all over and around Iran. What would USA do if it were surrounded by dozens of military bases of a foreign entity?

    Trump and every other US pol is dishonest or delusional or both when they claim that because people in Syria, or Libya, or Egypt or Iran defend their own territory from incursions and attack by USA, that THEY are enemies to the USA: If Libyans or Syrians were in the continental USA and attacking it, THEN they would be enemies and USA would have a cause for grievance.

    Finally, Trump is the freshest mind of the mid-twentieth century; he still clings to USA "triumph" in WWII. He's the general who's fighting the last war that USA (mistakenly) thinks it won. Trump is stuck in a past that never was. Worse: he displayed his lack of critical acuity when he said:

    Unfortunately, after the Cold War our foreign policy veered badly off course. We failed to develop a new vision for a new time
     
    G H W Bush led USA "badly off course" when he invaded Iraq in 1991; he did so under the same false sense of having "saved the world" that Trump mimed in the opening of his speech. When Bush Jr. went in to finish the job, Bremer disbanded the Iraqi army in exact and self-conscious imitation of the USA de-Nazifification of Germany. USA learned nothing from its history because it learns the wrong lessons about US involvement in wars, and Trump does not have the intellect or intellectual honesty to see through those historical realities.

    --
    I'd sure like to read what Boyd Cathey thinks of Trump's FP speech. Boyd was right to think Trump was preferable to Cruz -- most anybody is -- but Trump's FP speech revealed his fundamental, underlying neoconservativism and destructive, mawkish pro-Israel stance.

    There's no way those two positions can be called "putting America first."

    Gramps, do you realize that out of all the remaining presidential candidates, Trump is the dove of the bunch on Iran? Hillary and her banker / military industrial backers would be at Iran’s throat in 30 seconds. Cruz is downright insane in his rhetoric.

    All Trump is saying is that:
    1) Obama made a bad deal because he got nothing in return (I agree).
    2) Iran can’t be allowed to have nukes (I agree).

    If Iran plays by the rules, they have nothing to worry about. Trump is the most moderate presidential candidate we’ve had in many. many years.

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    All Trump is saying is that:
    1) Obama made a bad deal because he got nothing in return (I agree). I disagree
    2) Iran can’t be allowed to have nukes (I agree). I disagree
     
    The Iran deal is not about nukes, which Iran has not decided to weaponize as it sees nuclear weapons as contrary to its Islamic values. It's about Israel via USA maintaining the power to control Iran and continue Israel's ability to harm Palestinians with impunity.
    Further, The Deal involved a far larger constituency than just Obama -- Europeans want to trade with Iran, with whom many of the European states have had good and diplomatic relations throughout the era of IRI.

    If Iran plays by the rules, they have nothing to worry about. Trump is the most moderate presidential candidate we’ve had in many. many years.
     

    Iranians have played by the rules; a fat lot of good it did them. Iran signed NPT and also agreed to an extension of the NPT in 1995 on the promise that a conference re nuclear free zone in ME would be held, and Israel would be On the Table at that conference. It never happened, not because Iran or other Arab states reneged but because Israwel & USA reneged. For that & other reasons Tthe Iran deal actually weakens the entire NPT framework.
    Moreover, if Iran is required to "play by the rules," but Israel gets a pass even on "mowing the lawn" routine and ritual slaughter of virtually imprisoned civilians, rules lose their meaning and the law of the jungle prevails. That's (papa) Donald Kagan's stated view on international law -- there is no such thing, it's might makes right. ( see @ 4.48 min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEgI8Y1iEv0

    Son Bob Kagan echoes papa Donald: "we brutalized Iran to get that deal, basically because we can" --->

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/09/08/the-e-r-decoding-the-iran-deal/

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  66. Anonymous says: • Website • Disclaimer

    This article is very insightful of the surface of political life in your country but from my view here in Australasia its a bit myopic so let me share my view with you. Recently my vision which is excellent has been exponentiated and become X-Ray like so let me tell you what I see with this exceptional clarity. Yes Donald “Duck” lol is right America is not only in decline but dead and the corpse is rotting. As I am now blessed with a working Caduceus of which it is said that the possessor of it brings an easy death to the dying, regeneration for the dead, can put others to sleep and wake those sleeping. Let me apply it.
    The country has been murdered by Liberal neoconservatives a 5th colum for Zionism or even better Craig Roberts literal “Khazarian Mafia” the worlds greatest criminal organisation. No one says boo, because the media there like here is controlled by that arch Zionist Neo liberal conservative Rupert ‘Murderoch’ sic. So what can be done ….a coup!…..I used to think that, but the ongoing retrograde of Jove …The true Morning Star, in 12th house of Pisces…and my living contact now with the spirit of Carl Jung…..I am thinking very differently conscious of my own and every body else shadow always projecting…..this is the bottom line.
    This takeover is actually 1700 years in the making …….Read Alvin Boyd Kuhn, and to use force to take it out, will because they are now so embedded in Earths DNA it will only kill the patient and therefore us with it.
    So what I propose is quite simple……As the utmost secrecy and subterfuge is required to maintain this dire state of affairs that 99% hate, it is so easy now that the Dawn of the Morning Star is here its clear as daylight. Lets expose let Donald Expose it, they of course will give it up! Which is best for them and everybody else.
    They will not do this with a good attitude however, and think like they are discarding and old toy that they have trashed and dont want any more.
    But thats OK….I dont see it that way……to me its a Divine Planet in travail needing resuscitation regeneration and new life, and thats what it is, and what will happen.

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    Mr Bindo:

    I'm not at all sure I follow you but I can see you got your mojo workin. My hope for Trump, were he to enter the White House, is that he would honestly report what he finds there. That would be enough. Am I close?
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  67. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @DaveE
    True enough. I grew up in the same neck of the swamp and am only a little younger than Trump. I think he probably shares a lot of the same sentiments that I have.

    But dammit, I chose an honest path in life, choosing to make my living actually trying to make things that benefit the average joe and staying as far away as I could from The Mob that dictates who gets to be "the buyers and the sellers." In that respect I have about as much in common with Trump as Mother Theresa.

    Is it really too much to ask to have an honest, working-class president? I realize "yes" is probably the answer.

    Maybe I should just be happy with a president who had ANY job.

    But dammit, I chose an honest path in life, choosing to make my living actually trying to make things that benefit the average joe and staying as far away as I could from The Mob … Is it really too much to ask to have an honest, working-class president?

    I certainly can’t vouch for Donald Trump’s integrity, but if you’re building a steel-reinforced concrete high-rise and the Mob control the cement industry in your town, what you gonna do? Most people, I suspect, would do as Trump did and go ahead with the only available supplier.

    Anyhow, I suspect your decent, honest working man might be rather easily hoodwinked by the likes of Putin, Netenyahu, or Kim Jong Un, so Trump’s life-time’s practice in hype could be an asset in the White House: “set a thief to catch a thief,” as my old mother might have said.

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    "Anyhow, I suspect your decent, honest working man might be rather easily hoodwinked by the likes of Putin, Netenyahu, or Kim Jong Un...."

    No way. Trump couldn't pass a sophomore level class in civil engineering or pour a concrete patio if he was held at gunpoint. Intelligent people DO things. The act of DOING things in the real word is precisely why working people are so much smarter, savvier and wiser than academics and "intellectuals".

    Just read this blog for five minutes if you want proof. Or read the interview where Trump rambles on about shrimp cocktail sauce as if that's equivalent to "getting your hands dirty" actually making something.

    Putting Putin in the same category as Netanyahu precisely proves my point. Even my 18 year old neighbor the dog-groomer (hey, it's an honest job) has this much figured out.

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  68. @utu
    Is Trump going to get rid of neocons?

    "That’s why I also look and have to look for talented experts with approaches and practical ideas, rather than surrounding myself with those who have perfect résumés but very little to brag about except responsibility for a long history of failed policies and continued losses at war. We have to look to new people. We have to look to new people because many of the old people frankly don’t know what they’re doing, even though they may look awfully good writing in The New York Times or being watched on television." http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/us/politics/transcript-trump-foreign-policy.html?_r=0

    Who did he mean by "those who have perfect résumés but very little to brag about except responsibility for a long history of failed policies and continued losses at war ?"

    Who did he mean by “those who have perfect résumés but very little to brag about except responsibility for a long history of failed policies and continued losses at war ?”

    thx for link to willyloman @ #41, utu. That information — that Trump takes advice from Walid Phares, Kissinger, Dov Zakheim, & Zalmay Khalilzad — whom I consider to be in the neoconservative camp, suggests that Trump is not talking about getting rid of the Kagan Krime family, or the “experts” at WINEP or Wilson Center, Council on Foreign Relations, Atlantic Council and think tanks of that type, but rather the R2P chicks — Susan Rice, Sam Power, Valerie Jarrett. Getting rid of them is a good thing, but hanging on to the Kagans and their fellow travelers is not a good idea.

    otoh I suspect (or wishfully think) Trump would pay no attention to Kristol and Rich Lowry — they’re yesterday morning’s toast.

    Also, utu, Trump made that one reference to “no nation building,” but he spent a lot of time talking about military buildup, using military force, expanding military weapons systems including air, navy and nukes. He may not be interested in nation building, but he sure is prepared to do some serious nation destroying, including using economic warfare (i.e. U S Treasury Dept to destabilize Russia & Iran) and cyber warfare. It seems to me that economic warfare equals shooting USA in the foot, it has never really achieved the goals intended in the target, and it erodes confidence in US as a trading partner.

    re the Saudi – Israel – Iran dynamic: In 2013 or 2014 (I forget which) Netanyahu said at the UN that “Israel and the Saudis are allies.” The Saudis did not object. They used to be enemies but Arab Spring put the fear of the lord in the Saudi monarchy; Iran is actually far more democratic than Saudi Arabia — or any other Arab state in the region; democratizing tendencies threaten the Saudis as much as Iran’s support for Palestinians/Hezbollah/Hamas threatens Israel; so an Israeli-Saudi alliance against Iran is made in heaven — for Israel, and hell on earth for Iran, and should frighten Americans, if they thought about it. With USA to provide muscle, intelligence, weapons, and the ability to strangle Iran economically thru banking system, it looks like Iran is the enemy du jour that is required to 1. slake Israeli psychosis, and 2. justify continuing military spending, weapons sales to KSA & Israel, & fear mongering to keep US domestic situation in check.

    Speaking of Palestine — what would a Trump presidency mean for the I/P conflict? Will Palestinians end up ethnically transferred to Jordan; will Israel acquire total control of Golan & Gaza & West Bank? Or will Trump sustain the status quo, slow and steady immiseration of Palestinians?

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  69. woodNfish says:
    @Greg S.
    Trump is the real deal, watch his foreign policy speech:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMNpeCT8OQw

    Thank you for linking that video Greg. I did not get to watch it when Trump spoke and the LSM is ignoring it because they know it is strong stuff. I did note that Trump went out of his way to not blame Bush for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. I am sure he did that to pad his position with the RNC scum. He needs to do that to beat the bitch hillary.

    Great speech, good points, and all the more reason to support Trump.

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  70. woodNfish says:
    @Boris
    The idea that the US is in decline isn't borne out by the data.The US is outperforming Europe and China has cooled off considerably. Certainly there are challenges, but there have always been challenges.

    Trump is, however, emblematic of a political decline. He embraces conspiracies (Birtehrism, climate change is a "hoax") and fear. He substitutes loud ignorance for expertise. His supporters demand that the facts fit their worldview, and when they don't, they find different facts. This is an issue on the left as well, but it hasn't become a problem so far. It likely will.

    Trump appears headed for a huge loss. I doubt that will cause his supporters to reassess his viability as a candidate. The collapse is always just around the corner.
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    Yes it is.
     
    Income inequality is an issue, but you are just cherry picking problems and declaring "decline." And the Heritage "Economic Freedom" index is nonsense.
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  71. @Greg S.
    Gramps, do you realize that out of all the remaining presidential candidates, Trump is the dove of the bunch on Iran? Hillary and her banker / military industrial backers would be at Iran's throat in 30 seconds. Cruz is downright insane in his rhetoric.

    All Trump is saying is that:
    1) Obama made a bad deal because he got nothing in return (I agree).
    2) Iran can't be allowed to have nukes (I agree).

    If Iran plays by the rules, they have nothing to worry about. Trump is the most moderate presidential candidate we've had in many. many years.

    All Trump is saying is that:
    1) Obama made a bad deal because he got nothing in return (I agree). I disagree
    2) Iran can’t be allowed to have nukes (I agree). I disagree

    The Iran deal is not about nukes, which Iran has not decided to weaponize as it sees nuclear weapons as contrary to its Islamic values. It’s about Israel via USA maintaining the power to control Iran and continue Israel’s ability to harm Palestinians with impunity.
    Further, The Deal involved a far larger constituency than just Obama — Europeans want to trade with Iran, with whom many of the European states have had good and diplomatic relations throughout the era of IRI.

    If Iran plays by the rules, they have nothing to worry about. Trump is the most moderate presidential candidate we’ve had in many. many years.

    Iranians have played by the rules; a fat lot of good it did them. Iran signed NPT and also agreed to an extension of the NPT in 1995 on the promise that a conference re nuclear free zone in ME would be held, and Israel would be On the Table at that conference. It never happened, not because Iran or other Arab states reneged but because Israwel & USA reneged. For that & other reasons Tthe Iran deal actually weakens the entire NPT framework.
    Moreover, if Iran is required to “play by the rules,” but Israel gets a pass even on “mowing the lawn” routine and ritual slaughter of virtually imprisoned civilians, rules lose their meaning and the law of the jungle prevails. That’s (papa) Donald Kagan’s stated view on international law — there is no such thing, it’s might makes right. ( see @ 4.48 min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEgI8Y1iEv0

    Son Bob Kagan echoes papa Donald: “we brutalized Iran to get that deal, basically because we can” —>

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/09/08/the-e-r-decoding-the-iran-deal/

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    Iran made its bed beginning with the hostage crisis, and hasn't really helped themselves in the eyes of Americans at all since then.
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  72. joe webb says:

    talked to a Stanford undergrad yesterday. claims he is a conservative and is interested in the restoration of Western Civ curricula at Stanford , which was tossed a few years ago, by the usuals and the lick-spittle administration . Stanford had an election, digital, on the issue again, a couple weeks ago and the vote was about 4 to one against it. Undergrad population is about 6,000 and a bit over 1000 voted.

    I guess that the crazies turned out big time to defeat it, while the nice boys and girls of the upper-middle class just polished their computers..I am told that half the students are enrolled in computer related majors. Stay out of trouble. GTM: get the money.

    I told this kid who is associated with the Western Civ project that I am thinking of doing a prank at Stanford’s free speech area which would feature a sign ..Western Civ..or ?. I would then have a leaflet with several alternative civilizations that one could vote for. No problem with internet security. Just fill out the form , drop it in a box, no name, etc, but major and race would be nice.

    Alternative Civs: Asian (china), African, Arab, Mexican (latin american), Turkic, and a write in line for whatever else one might have in mind….for comic effect…Burning Man, Hippie, Techie, Stanford Bernie Sanders, etc.

    My interlocutor was shocked, told me there would be a riot and he did not want to be blamed,
    He also had never considered or been told some of the racial science that I brought along. He was overwhelmed and slumped in his chair. I asked him if he was actually a liberal, and he protested that he is a conservative. Why then do Western Civ? He said texts…I am not making this up…texts, like Plato, etc. I said these Others are not interested in our stuff because they do not have the genes for it. He said Culture, I said bull shit, culture come from the genes, or as E O Wilson put it, genes have culture on a very short leash.

    Poor kid, lost his innocence. Amazing what students are today, and it is everywhere on campuses.
    Bernie Sanders is the specter haunting Stanford, the jew socialist. I think we are in for a massive blood-letting soon. It just gets weirder and weirder. The reason it gets weirder and weirder is that the Social Justice warriors and armies of blacks have hit the Wall.

    50 years ago it all seemed like a good idea, civil rights and all., at least for me, and many altruistic whites. Now, one trillion dollars spent on black Uplift over that 50 years and for nothing. Then all the science on black IQ, and then crime, etc. then Mexicans, etc.
    The biological Wall is solid, and even the liberals over, say 35, are getting it. Hence, the Trump Wall and the spectacular polarization. Civil war time.

    Joe Webb

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    Do you think you will take out any blacks or Mexicans in the civil war?
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  73. @Anonymous
    This article is very insightful of the surface of political life in your country but from my view here in Australasia its a bit myopic so let me share my view with you. Recently my vision which is excellent has been exponentiated and become X-Ray like so let me tell you what I see with this exceptional clarity. Yes Donald "Duck" lol is right America is not only in decline but dead and the corpse is rotting. As I am now blessed with a working Caduceus of which it is said that the possessor of it brings an easy death to the dying, regeneration for the dead, can put others to sleep and wake those sleeping. Let me apply it.
    The country has been murdered by Liberal neoconservatives a 5th colum for Zionism or even better Craig Roberts literal "Khazarian Mafia" the worlds greatest criminal organisation. No one says boo, because the media there like here is controlled by that arch Zionist Neo liberal conservative Rupert 'Murderoch' sic. So what can be done ....a coup!.....I used to think that, but the ongoing retrograde of Jove ...The true Morning Star, in 12th house of Pisces...and my living contact now with the spirit of Carl Jung.....I am thinking very differently conscious of my own and every body else shadow always projecting.....this is the bottom line.
    This takeover is actually 1700 years in the making .......Read Alvin Boyd Kuhn, and to use force to take it out, will because they are now so embedded in Earths DNA it will only kill the patient and therefore us with it.
    So what I propose is quite simple......As the utmost secrecy and subterfuge is required to maintain this dire state of affairs that 99% hate, it is so easy now that the Dawn of the Morning Star is here its clear as daylight. Lets expose let Donald Expose it, they of course will give it up! Which is best for them and everybody else.
    They will not do this with a good attitude however, and think like they are discarding and old toy that they have trashed and dont want any more.
    But thats OK....I dont see it that way......to me its a Divine Planet in travail needing resuscitation regeneration and new life, and thats what it is, and what will happen.

    Mr Bindo:

    I’m not at all sure I follow you but I can see you got your mojo workin. My hope for Trump, were he to enter the White House, is that he would honestly report what he finds there. That would be enough. Am I close?

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  74. @Discard
    American decline is visible in the fake manliness I see everywhere. Ultra-violent entertainments, tattoos, and jacked up 4wd trucks with shiny paint jobs. And very often, guns.

    What’s wrong with guns or with having them?

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  75. @stickman
    My own take on all that macho (fake manliness) bravado is that it is an unconscious reaction to the violent removal of their nascent man-hoods within approximately 24 hours of their hospital births.

    Yes, i'm talking about America's dirtiest and most shameful little secret, male neonatal radical circumcision ~ usually committed without anesthetic, occasionally leading to death on the spot (particularly with undiagnosed hemophiliacs) and also occasionally necessitating additional surgery to repair botched circ jobs.

    Both the Lancet and the Journal of American Medicine have stated quite clearly that there is no medical reason for the unspeakable practice. Muslims and Jews point to their religious reasons for the amputation. But do not the inviolable rights of the individual to the integrity of his own body ALWAYS supersede mere religious protestations and pretensions?

    The bodily discapacitation is relatively minor compared with the way the unkindest cut effects the psyche. Perhaps the most famous Jewish philosopher of the past millenium, Maimonedes, recommended circumcision for its effects in reducing the sex drive and making it less pleasurable. Consider for a moment that even the Bris, at the ripe old age of 8 days, is carried out after the boy has had some opportunity to bond with his mother, while in Goyish hospital births, that brief window of human affection is scarcely ajar. The violent restraints on his tiny limbs followed by unspeakable pain occurs prior to the development of consciousness. Thus the neonatal sexual child abuse is only "remembered" within the brainstem (lizard brain) and is rarely overcome in later life.

    So i see the relatively recent hypermasculinization of generally 3rd and 4th generation circumcised American males as an unconscious reaction to and psychic assuagement for their partial state of emasculation.

    “So i see the relatively recent hypermasculinization of generally 3rd and 4th generation circumcised American males as an unconscious reaction to and psychic assuagement for their partial state of emasculation.”

    I don’t suppose you’d mind providing your research data and the methodology of same to support your theory.

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    Outside of the writings of Ronald Goldman, i believe, quite an ironic sourcename, n' cest pas?; there is very little academic research to be found on this guilt, shame and fear-ridden topic. As for methodology, fuggidaboutit. You are quite evidently steeped in, and beholden to the academicist nostrums of scientism ~ perhaps even the pseudo-sciences of sociology and psychology or maybe even the ultimate oxymoronic appellation, "Political" science.

    That all said i have conducted individual surveys on the phenomenon of cultural biases and preconceptions, usually not at a conscious level, of the current wounded weenie majority of American males. Individualism and any strong tendency to stray from the herd and its mores and nuances is severely lacking in those generations which have arisen since the terminus of the Great Depression. Since roughly 1940 the majority of Americans have been born in hospitals, where the default policy is cut, cut, cut.

    Removal of the most nerve-ending rich loci of the human male anatomy from neonates has a profound impact on the development of both consciousness and individualization. The net effect is the imposition of fear-based faux herd-instincts in a significant majority of victims. As males literally deprived of their man-hoods, there is a tendency towards effeminized voicing, a more hesitant projection, including stance and stride and an overall diffidence which segues quite closely with the educationist nostrums of the like of James Bryant Conant and John Dewey ~ a devolution of educational values on behalf of an adjustment racket calculated to develop willing workers and compulsive consumers rather than self-motivated men who are encouraged to think for themselves.
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  76. @Boris
    Yes, I'm familiar with 9/11 conspiracy theories. And they are certainly a part of the political decline, although they are more fringe-y than birther conspiracies or climate change conspiracies, which are both enormously popular among Republicans.

    Of course there are many scientists and writers who have debunked the 9/11 nonsense. But then they just become part of the conspiracy. That's how this particular example of cognitive bias works.

    Stop lying. You obviously don’t know much if anything about the 9/11 conspiracy. A majority of those who have been asking the tough questions are engineers, architects, demolition experts, metallurgists, et cetera.

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    A majority of those who have been asking the tough questions are engineers, architects, demolition experts, metallurgists, et cetera.
     
    A majority? Uh, no.

    People who scream "burning jet fuel can't melt steel!" aren't impressive. It's clear they don't even grasp the basics.

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  77. @SolontoCroesus

    All Trump is saying is that:
    1) Obama made a bad deal because he got nothing in return (I agree). I disagree
    2) Iran can’t be allowed to have nukes (I agree). I disagree
     
    The Iran deal is not about nukes, which Iran has not decided to weaponize as it sees nuclear weapons as contrary to its Islamic values. It's about Israel via USA maintaining the power to control Iran and continue Israel's ability to harm Palestinians with impunity.
    Further, The Deal involved a far larger constituency than just Obama -- Europeans want to trade with Iran, with whom many of the European states have had good and diplomatic relations throughout the era of IRI.

    If Iran plays by the rules, they have nothing to worry about. Trump is the most moderate presidential candidate we’ve had in many. many years.
     

    Iranians have played by the rules; a fat lot of good it did them. Iran signed NPT and also agreed to an extension of the NPT in 1995 on the promise that a conference re nuclear free zone in ME would be held, and Israel would be On the Table at that conference. It never happened, not because Iran or other Arab states reneged but because Israwel & USA reneged. For that & other reasons Tthe Iran deal actually weakens the entire NPT framework.
    Moreover, if Iran is required to "play by the rules," but Israel gets a pass even on "mowing the lawn" routine and ritual slaughter of virtually imprisoned civilians, rules lose their meaning and the law of the jungle prevails. That's (papa) Donald Kagan's stated view on international law -- there is no such thing, it's might makes right. ( see @ 4.48 min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEgI8Y1iEv0

    Son Bob Kagan echoes papa Donald: "we brutalized Iran to get that deal, basically because we can" --->

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/09/08/the-e-r-decoding-the-iran-deal/

    Iran made its bed beginning with the hostage crisis, and hasn’t really helped themselves in the eyes of Americans at all since then.

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    a. what would you have Iran do, UWM? What would USA do if the situation were reversed?
    If Trump is celebrated for proclaiming that USA should act in its own national interest, why should anyone expect Iran to act in America's interests rather than its own?

    b. try this at home:
    Step 1: get a map of the world
    Step 2: draw the borders of the USA
    Step 3: mark the places on those borders where Trump would build a wall
    Step 4: mark the USA borders that are contiguous to Iran
    Step 5: mark the USA military installations surrounding Iran
    Step 6: mark the Iranian military installations surrounding USA

    c. Consider this nutshell comparative history:
    American colonists waged a war to expel a government that was encroaching on what the colonists perceived to be their rights. American colonists killed a lot of those oppressive adversaries, and they achieved their independence, set up the kind of government they thought would work best for them, based on their values and culture. The adversary remained miffed at being dispossessed of their cash cow and incited American Indians & waged another war on the young, revolutionary government; the British lost & USA became a (more or less) mature, self-governing nation.

    Iran perceived the USA to be acting in an oppressive fashion toward Iran. Iranians discovered documentary evidence supporting that notion in the materials that Americans thought they had shredded in the US embassy. So Iranians took over the embassy and held Americans hostage for 444 days. Then they were released. No one was killed. Iran set up the kind of government they thought would work best for them, based on their values and culture. The adversary remained miffed at being dispossessed of their cash cow and incited an adversarial neighbor, Iraq, to wage a war against Iran (about a million killed, 50,000 Iranian civilians attacked w/ proscribed gas weapons -- USA assisted in those attacks). In the course of that war USA shot down a civilian plane killing 240 Iranians. The war ended, Iran continues to attempt to evolve its government according to its values and culture. Iran is not seeking to re-form USA in the image and likeness of Iran, but Israel and USA seek to overthrow the Iranian government because USA and Israel don't like the way Iran governs itself. (btw, interfering in the domestic affairs of a signatory to UN Charter is proscribed by that charter. What USA & Israel are carrying on against Iran violates the principles of UN Charter to which USA is signatory.)

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  78. Boris says:
    @woodNfish

    The idea that the US is in decline isn’t borne out by the data.
     
    Yes it is.

    http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-03-03/donald-trump-has-a-point-about-american-decline

    http://dailysignal.com/2016/01/31/americas-economic-freedom-has-rapidly-declined-under-obama/

    http://www.heritage.org/index/country/unitedstates

    http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2015/12/09/the-american-middle-class-is-losing-ground/

    http://www.brookings.edu/research/opinions/2015/09/22-middle-class-incomes-shrinking-burtless

    http://www.epi.org/publication/stagnant-wages-in-2014/

    Yes it is.

    Income inequality is an issue, but you are just cherry picking problems and declaring “decline.” And the Heritage “Economic Freedom” index is nonsense.

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    It is more than income inequality, it is the highest welfare rolls in history, the highest real unemployment since the Great Depression, the millions of jobs lost not only by companies shutting down or being shipped to foreign countries, but the importation of foreigners to take jobs right here at home. I didn't "cherry pick". I only tried to put in links that were not too old. Hell, I even put in a link to PEW - a biased commie shjth*le if there ever was one.

    Just admit it, Boris. You really don't care about the current depression and its effect on average amerikans so you will ignore any information contrary to your preferred reality.
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  79. Boris says:
    @Unapologetic White Man
    Stop lying. You obviously don't know much if anything about the 9/11 conspiracy. A majority of those who have been asking the tough questions are engineers, architects, demolition experts, metallurgists, et cetera.

    A majority of those who have been asking the tough questions are engineers, architects, demolition experts, metallurgists, et cetera.

    A majority? Uh, no.

    People who scream “burning jet fuel can’t melt steel!” aren’t impressive. It’s clear they don’t even grasp the basics.

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    But Boris, the simple physical FACT that the highest attainable temperatures of burning jet fuel is NOT capable of melting hardened steel is about as basic as you can get. What is it that you do not grasp vis your own cognitive dissonance?
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  80. @Unapologetic White Man
    Iran made its bed beginning with the hostage crisis, and hasn't really helped themselves in the eyes of Americans at all since then.

    a. what would you have Iran do, UWM? What would USA do if the situation were reversed?
    If Trump is celebrated for proclaiming that USA should act in its own national interest, why should anyone expect Iran to act in America’s interests rather than its own?

    b. try this at home:
    Step 1: get a map of the world
    Step 2: draw the borders of the USA
    Step 3: mark the places on those borders where Trump would build a wall
    Step 4: mark the USA borders that are contiguous to Iran
    Step 5: mark the USA military installations surrounding Iran
    Step 6: mark the Iranian military installations surrounding USA

    c. Consider this nutshell comparative history:
    American colonists waged a war to expel a government that was encroaching on what the colonists perceived to be their rights. American colonists killed a lot of those oppressive adversaries, and they achieved their independence, set up the kind of government they thought would work best for them, based on their values and culture. The adversary remained miffed at being dispossessed of their cash cow and incited American Indians & waged another war on the young, revolutionary government; the British lost & USA became a (more or less) mature, self-governing nation.

    Iran perceived the USA to be acting in an oppressive fashion toward Iran. Iranians discovered documentary evidence supporting that notion in the materials that Americans thought they had shredded in the US embassy. So Iranians took over the embassy and held Americans hostage for 444 days. Then they were released. No one was killed. Iran set up the kind of government they thought would work best for them, based on their values and culture. The adversary remained miffed at being dispossessed of their cash cow and incited an adversarial neighbor, Iraq, to wage a war against Iran (about a million killed, 50,000 Iranian civilians attacked w/ proscribed gas weapons — USA assisted in those attacks). In the course of that war USA shot down a civilian plane killing 240 Iranians. The war ended, Iran continues to attempt to evolve its government according to its values and culture. Iran is not seeking to re-form USA in the image and likeness of Iran, but Israel and USA seek to overthrow the Iranian government because USA and Israel don’t like the way Iran governs itself. (btw, interfering in the domestic affairs of a signatory to UN Charter is proscribed by that charter. What USA & Israel are carrying on against Iran violates the principles of UN Charter to which USA is signatory.)

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  81. Wally says: • Website

    The “basics’ are that kerosene (jet fuel) can’t even come close to melting steel.
    Did you even go to school?

    http://www.ae911truth.org

    Be sure to see their list of thousands of architects, engineers, and other skilled professionals who are unwilling to accept the impossible.

    What Science Says About the Destruction of World Trade Center Buildings 1, 2, and 7

    http://www.beyondmisinformation.org/#beyond-misinformation

    - The US govt. cannot change laws of physics.

    - And it’s an established scientific fact that military grade nano-thermite explosives were used in the 9/11 attack.

    - Military grade nano-thermite explosives were found in the WTC sediment by the USGS & Niels Harrit of Univ. of Copenhagen, and 8 more scientists.

    http://www.ae911truth.org

    ‘Muslims in caves’ cannot make military grade nano-thermite.

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  82. Rurik says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    if it's true that "no country ever prospered that failed to put its own interests first" then why does Trump regurgitate the lie that Iran is and always must be USA's enemy, and that Israel is and always will be USA's friend and ally? When has Israel ever acted as a friend to USA, rather than just make demands on the superpower?

    Iran is in a position to assist USA in numerous ways; Iran was a 'friend' to USA for many years, including assisting US in Afghanistan right after 9/11; Trump's statement that Iran has "been trying to get Iraq's oil" is just ludicrous -- Iran has oil of its own! And Trump's complaint about Iran's treatment of American sailors was not even good theater. Just pathetic.

    Trump, the hotshot deal-maker, is willing to trash a pent-up demand market of 70+million Iranians, most of them younger & highly educated, in favor of the ultimate freeloader state, Israel. How does that make sense?

    Trump kvetches about NATO not pulling its weight but nary a peep about USA shelling out billions to Israel, which has not only never, ever aided USA in its (mis)adventures in the region but has demanded that USA protect Israel from the outcomes that Israel-demanded aggression that USA carries out in the region.

    Trump wants to spend more on US nuclear weapons. USA is signatory to NPT. By that treaty, USA & other nuclear-have states agree to divest of their nuclear weapons, not increase them. Or does your vision of USA not include living up to agreements signed onto?

    Trump holds the Kaganesque view that the USA has the right to tell other large nations -- like China -- where they may and may not act, even when those places are in the front yard of said nation, like the South China sea.

    Trump's FP speech contained the equivalent of a declaration of war on Iran, first by continuing the economic war US/Israel has been waging, and "maybe with military force" if Iran fails to "play by the rules," -- Trump really meant, play by OUR rules. Saudi Arabia and Israel are the unspoken and spoken parties and intended beneficiaries of a US led- and bled war on Iran; there is no upside to USA demonizing Iran. None.

    Trump's closing, rather lugubrious ruminations about "too many weapons" and "wanting peace" were wildly disconnected from his repeated statements about building up US military, killing ISIS, and using military force in places where USA really has no interest whatsoever in being aggressive, but does have an opportunity to create trade relations the way China has -- through commerce and actually respecting people, and not kow-towing to tiny problem-child Israel and recycling the same propaganda BS Israelis seem to actually think about themselves -- that they are beacons of "justice and peace" in the region.

    For all of you who luv Trump because he will put walls at USA's borders: Did it ever occur to you that borders work two ways: they define who stays out and who stays in. The USA has been trashing other people's borders for decades: No North Korean threatens the USA; Iran does not threaten the USA, but USA has dozens of bases and thousands of armed mercenaries and spies all over and around Iran. What would USA do if it were surrounded by dozens of military bases of a foreign entity?

    Trump and every other US pol is dishonest or delusional or both when they claim that because people in Syria, or Libya, or Egypt or Iran defend their own territory from incursions and attack by USA, that THEY are enemies to the USA: If Libyans or Syrians were in the continental USA and attacking it, THEN they would be enemies and USA would have a cause for grievance.

    Finally, Trump is the freshest mind of the mid-twentieth century; he still clings to USA "triumph" in WWII. He's the general who's fighting the last war that USA (mistakenly) thinks it won. Trump is stuck in a past that never was. Worse: he displayed his lack of critical acuity when he said:

    Unfortunately, after the Cold War our foreign policy veered badly off course. We failed to develop a new vision for a new time
     
    G H W Bush led USA "badly off course" when he invaded Iraq in 1991; he did so under the same false sense of having "saved the world" that Trump mimed in the opening of his speech. When Bush Jr. went in to finish the job, Bremer disbanded the Iraqi army in exact and self-conscious imitation of the USA de-Nazifification of Germany. USA learned nothing from its history because it learns the wrong lessons about US involvement in wars, and Trump does not have the intellect or intellectual honesty to see through those historical realities.

    --
    I'd sure like to read what Boyd Cathey thinks of Trump's FP speech. Boyd was right to think Trump was preferable to Cruz -- most anybody is -- but Trump's FP speech revealed his fundamental, underlying neoconservativism and destructive, mawkish pro-Israel stance.

    There's no way those two positions can be called "putting America first."

    Trump was preferable to Cruz — most anybody is

    and Hillary? Is not Trump preferable to Hillary?!

    this is the thing Gramps, the Zionists own and control everything of consequence in N. America (and Europe)

    they own the media outright. They own or control all the big banks. Their agents are entrenched in the military and intelligence agencies. The CIA is basically an arm of the Mossad.

    and you think Trump can get into the White House by dissing Israel? Think again.

    we have a reality that we all have to face. Their control over this country is almost absolute. That a man like Trump can even get near the levers of power only goes to show that their control is ALMOST absolute. Because if it were absolute, then a man like Trump would never stand a chance in hell.

    He said no to Jerusalem being the eternal capital of Israel.

    He said the wars were a mistake.

    He said we either have a country, or we don’t

    he’s said a lot of things that have the Zionists apoplectic.

    So my question to you Gramps, is – if not Trump, then who?

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  83. @Thirdtwin
    The current preezy ran on the concept that America has never been great at all, as it was cursed from the beginning. Indeed, his first lady feels the same way, or at least she did until we asked for absolution by electing her husband. Obama has spent the last seven years punishing and hobbling America. Trump has a tough task ahead of him, but he's clear-eyed about the situation.

    Quite so. In fact, if the idea that he’s the only president to use the term “American Exceptionalism,” it’s only because he’s also the only one to explicitly disavow it even as he demonstrates how utterly ignorant he is of the phrase’s meaning.

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  84. woodNfish says:
    @Boris

    Yes it is.
     
    Income inequality is an issue, but you are just cherry picking problems and declaring "decline." And the Heritage "Economic Freedom" index is nonsense.

    It is more than income inequality, it is the highest welfare rolls in history, the highest real unemployment since the Great Depression, the millions of jobs lost not only by companies shutting down or being shipped to foreign countries, but the importation of foreigners to take jobs right here at home. I didn’t “cherry pick”. I only tried to put in links that were not too old. Hell, I even put in a link to PEW – a biased commie shjth*le if there ever was one.

    Just admit it, Boris. You really don’t care about the current depression and its effect on average amerikans so you will ignore any information contrary to your preferred reality.

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  85. stickman says:
    @Unapologetic White Man
    "So i see the relatively recent hypermasculinization of generally 3rd and 4th generation circumcised American males as an unconscious reaction to and psychic assuagement for their partial state of emasculation."

    I don't suppose you'd mind providing your research data and the methodology of same to support your theory.

    Outside of the writings of Ronald Goldman, i believe, quite an ironic sourcename, n’ cest pas?; there is very little academic research to be found on this guilt, shame and fear-ridden topic. As for methodology, fuggidaboutit. You are quite evidently steeped in, and beholden to the academicist nostrums of scientism ~ perhaps even the pseudo-sciences of sociology and psychology or maybe even the ultimate oxymoronic appellation, “Political” science.

    That all said i have conducted individual surveys on the phenomenon of cultural biases and preconceptions, usually not at a conscious level, of the current wounded weenie majority of American males. Individualism and any strong tendency to stray from the herd and its mores and nuances is severely lacking in those generations which have arisen since the terminus of the Great Depression. Since roughly 1940 the majority of Americans have been born in hospitals, where the default policy is cut, cut, cut.

    Removal of the most nerve-ending rich loci of the human male anatomy from neonates has a profound impact on the development of both consciousness and individualization. The net effect is the imposition of fear-based faux herd-instincts in a significant majority of victims. As males literally deprived of their man-hoods, there is a tendency towards effeminized voicing, a more hesitant projection, including stance and stride and an overall diffidence which segues quite closely with the educationist nostrums of the like of James Bryant Conant and John Dewey ~ a devolution of educational values on behalf of an adjustment racket calculated to develop willing workers and compulsive consumers rather than self-motivated men who are encouraged to think for themselves.

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    the default policy is cut, cut, cut.

    Removal of the most nerve-ending rich loci of the human male anatomy from neonates has a profound impact on the development of both consciousness and individualization. The net effect is the imposition of fear-based faux herd-instincts in a significant majority of victims. As males literally deprived of their man-hoods, there is a tendency towards effeminized voicing, a more hesitant projection, including stance and stride and an overall diffidence which segues quite closely with the educationist nostrums of the like of James Bryant Conant and John Dewey ~ a devolution of educational values on behalf of an adjustment racket calculated to develop willing workers and compulsive consumers rather than self-motivated men who are encouraged to think for themselves.
     
    wow

    really? All of that because of a useless fap of skin that more often than not contains massive quantities of bacteria not to mention, how was it that gal put it.. 'cheese in the basket'?

    You lose all our individuality and consciousness and become terrified of your own shadow with squeaky voices and walk like girly men, but it's a well known fact cut men get more head. Gals prefer the look. So, if I had a son, I'd have to take that into consideration, no?

    cut = no individuality and no consciousness and a girl's voice and walks funny and eats kale - but gets more head

    uncut = manly individual who'll make America great again, but who gets little or no head

    hmm..
    , @Unapologetic White Man
    You've got me all figured out just by my simple request that you support your assertion.

    You must be brilliant.

    Carry on with your weird obsession.
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  86. stickman says:
    @Boris

    A majority of those who have been asking the tough questions are engineers, architects, demolition experts, metallurgists, et cetera.
     
    A majority? Uh, no.

    People who scream "burning jet fuel can't melt steel!" aren't impressive. It's clear they don't even grasp the basics.

    But Boris, the simple physical FACT that the highest attainable temperatures of burning jet fuel is NOT capable of melting hardened steel is about as basic as you can get. What is it that you do not grasp vis your own cognitive dissonance?

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    Since you need it spelled out for you:

    1. No one argues that only burning jet fuel brought down the WTC.
    2. No one argues that the steel was melted.

    So why is “Burning jet fuel can’t melt steel!” relevant? It isn't. It's clearly a slogan recited by someone who doesn't know what the actual argument is.
    , @Inque Yutani
    But it can weaken the steel severely. It doesn't have to melt. There's a YouTube video you can probably find where a guy takes a steel beam, heats the middle to burning jet fuel temperature, and bends the thing effortlessly.
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  87. DaveE says:
    @CanSpeccy

    But dammit, I chose an honest path in life, choosing to make my living actually trying to make things that benefit the average joe and staying as far away as I could from The Mob ... Is it really too much to ask to have an honest, working-class president?
     
    I certainly can't vouch for Donald Trump's integrity, but if you're building a steel-reinforced concrete high-rise and the Mob control the cement industry in your town, what you gonna do? Most people, I suspect, would do as Trump did and go ahead with the only available supplier.

    Anyhow, I suspect your decent, honest working man might be rather easily hoodwinked by the likes of Putin, Netenyahu, or Kim Jong Un, so Trump's life-time's practice in hype could be an asset in the White House: "set a thief to catch a thief," as my old mother might have said.

    “Anyhow, I suspect your decent, honest working man might be rather easily hoodwinked by the likes of Putin, Netenyahu, or Kim Jong Un….”

    No way. Trump couldn’t pass a sophomore level class in civil engineering or pour a concrete patio if he was held at gunpoint. Intelligent people DO things. The act of DOING things in the real word is precisely why working people are so much smarter, savvier and wiser than academics and “intellectuals”.

    Just read this blog for five minutes if you want proof. Or read the interview where Trump rambles on about shrimp cocktail sauce as if that’s equivalent to “getting your hands dirty” actually making something.

    Putting Putin in the same category as Netanyahu precisely proves my point. Even my 18 year old neighbor the dog-groomer (hey, it’s an honest job) has this much figured out.

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  88. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @joe webb
    talked to a Stanford undergrad yesterday. claims he is a conservative and is interested in the restoration of Western Civ curricula at Stanford , which was tossed a few years ago, by the usuals and the lick-spittle administration . Stanford had an election, digital, on the issue again, a couple weeks ago and the vote was about 4 to one against it. Undergrad population is about 6,000 and a bit over 1000 voted.

    I guess that the crazies turned out big time to defeat it, while the nice boys and girls of the upper-middle class just polished their computers..I am told that half the students are enrolled in computer related majors. Stay out of trouble. GTM: get the money.

    I told this kid who is associated with the Western Civ project that I am thinking of doing a prank at Stanford's free speech area which would feature a sign ..Western Civ..or ?. I would then have a leaflet with several alternative civilizations that one could vote for. No problem with internet security. Just fill out the form , drop it in a box, no name, etc, but major and race would be nice.

    Alternative Civs: Asian (china), African, Arab, Mexican (latin american), Turkic, and a write in line for whatever else one might have in mind....for comic effect...Burning Man, Hippie, Techie, Stanford Bernie Sanders, etc.

    My interlocutor was shocked, told me there would be a riot and he did not want to be blamed,
    He also had never considered or been told some of the racial science that I brought along. He was overwhelmed and slumped in his chair. I asked him if he was actually a liberal, and he protested that he is a conservative. Why then do Western Civ? He said texts...I am not making this up...texts, like Plato, etc. I said these Others are not interested in our stuff because they do not have the genes for it. He said Culture, I said bull shit, culture come from the genes, or as E O Wilson put it, genes have culture on a very short leash.

    Poor kid, lost his innocence. Amazing what students are today, and it is everywhere on campuses.
    Bernie Sanders is the specter haunting Stanford, the jew socialist. I think we are in for a massive blood-letting soon. It just gets weirder and weirder. The reason it gets weirder and weirder is that the Social Justice warriors and armies of blacks have hit the Wall.

    50 years ago it all seemed like a good idea, civil rights and all., at least for me, and many altruistic whites. Now, one trillion dollars spent on black Uplift over that 50 years and for nothing. Then all the science on black IQ, and then crime, etc. then Mexicans, etc.
    The biological Wall is solid, and even the liberals over, say 35, are getting it. Hence, the Trump Wall and the spectacular polarization. Civil war time.

    Joe Webb

    Do you think you will take out any blacks or Mexicans in the civil war?

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  89. Boris says:
    @stickman
    But Boris, the simple physical FACT that the highest attainable temperatures of burning jet fuel is NOT capable of melting hardened steel is about as basic as you can get. What is it that you do not grasp vis your own cognitive dissonance?

    Since you need it spelled out for you:

    1. No one argues that only burning jet fuel brought down the WTC.
    2. No one argues that the steel was melted.

    So why is “Burning jet fuel can’t melt steel!” relevant? It isn’t. It’s clearly a slogan recited by someone who doesn’t know what the actual argument is.

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    If the massive steel support beams were NOT melted, how the hell did the buildings collapse ~ into their own signature, no less?
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  90. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    No way. Trump couldn’t pass a sophomore level class in civil engineering or pour a concrete patio if he was held at gunpoint. Intelligent people DO things. The act of DOING things in the real word is precisely why working people are so much smarter, savvier and wiser than academics and “intellectuals”.

    Accusing Trump of not doing anything, seems slightly ridiculous.

    And while many working persons are well endowed with common sense, I doubt whether many understands such things as, say, the connection between the drive for globalization by the Money Power and the push by global corporations for increasing returns to scale.

    However, on economic matters about which ordinary folk do understand, e.g., that mass immigration lowers wages, and export of capital and technology to low-wage jurisdictions destroys employment, Trump seems to be fully in sync. with the common man.

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  91. Rurik says:
    @stickman
    Outside of the writings of Ronald Goldman, i believe, quite an ironic sourcename, n' cest pas?; there is very little academic research to be found on this guilt, shame and fear-ridden topic. As for methodology, fuggidaboutit. You are quite evidently steeped in, and beholden to the academicist nostrums of scientism ~ perhaps even the pseudo-sciences of sociology and psychology or maybe even the ultimate oxymoronic appellation, "Political" science.

    That all said i have conducted individual surveys on the phenomenon of cultural biases and preconceptions, usually not at a conscious level, of the current wounded weenie majority of American males. Individualism and any strong tendency to stray from the herd and its mores and nuances is severely lacking in those generations which have arisen since the terminus of the Great Depression. Since roughly 1940 the majority of Americans have been born in hospitals, where the default policy is cut, cut, cut.

    Removal of the most nerve-ending rich loci of the human male anatomy from neonates has a profound impact on the development of both consciousness and individualization. The net effect is the imposition of fear-based faux herd-instincts in a significant majority of victims. As males literally deprived of their man-hoods, there is a tendency towards effeminized voicing, a more hesitant projection, including stance and stride and an overall diffidence which segues quite closely with the educationist nostrums of the like of James Bryant Conant and John Dewey ~ a devolution of educational values on behalf of an adjustment racket calculated to develop willing workers and compulsive consumers rather than self-motivated men who are encouraged to think for themselves.

    the default policy is cut, cut, cut.

    Removal of the most nerve-ending rich loci of the human male anatomy from neonates has a profound impact on the development of both consciousness and individualization. The net effect is the imposition of fear-based faux herd-instincts in a significant majority of victims. As males literally deprived of their man-hoods, there is a tendency towards effeminized voicing, a more hesitant projection, including stance and stride and an overall diffidence which segues quite closely with the educationist nostrums of the like of James Bryant Conant and John Dewey ~ a devolution of educational values on behalf of an adjustment racket calculated to develop willing workers and compulsive consumers rather than self-motivated men who are encouraged to think for themselves.

    wow

    really? All of that because of a useless fap of skin that more often than not contains massive quantities of bacteria not to mention, how was it that gal put it.. ‘cheese in the basket’?

    You lose all our individuality and consciousness and become terrified of your own shadow with squeaky voices and walk like girly men, but it’s a well known fact cut men get more head. Gals prefer the look. So, if I had a son, I’d have to take that into consideration, no?

    cut = no individuality and no consciousness and a girl’s voice and walks funny and eats kale – but gets more head

    uncut = manly individual who’ll make America great again, but who gets little or no head

    hmm..

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  92. @stickman
    Outside of the writings of Ronald Goldman, i believe, quite an ironic sourcename, n' cest pas?; there is very little academic research to be found on this guilt, shame and fear-ridden topic. As for methodology, fuggidaboutit. You are quite evidently steeped in, and beholden to the academicist nostrums of scientism ~ perhaps even the pseudo-sciences of sociology and psychology or maybe even the ultimate oxymoronic appellation, "Political" science.

    That all said i have conducted individual surveys on the phenomenon of cultural biases and preconceptions, usually not at a conscious level, of the current wounded weenie majority of American males. Individualism and any strong tendency to stray from the herd and its mores and nuances is severely lacking in those generations which have arisen since the terminus of the Great Depression. Since roughly 1940 the majority of Americans have been born in hospitals, where the default policy is cut, cut, cut.

    Removal of the most nerve-ending rich loci of the human male anatomy from neonates has a profound impact on the development of both consciousness and individualization. The net effect is the imposition of fear-based faux herd-instincts in a significant majority of victims. As males literally deprived of their man-hoods, there is a tendency towards effeminized voicing, a more hesitant projection, including stance and stride and an overall diffidence which segues quite closely with the educationist nostrums of the like of James Bryant Conant and John Dewey ~ a devolution of educational values on behalf of an adjustment racket calculated to develop willing workers and compulsive consumers rather than self-motivated men who are encouraged to think for themselves.

    You’ve got me all figured out just by my simple request that you support your assertion.

    You must be brilliant.

    Carry on with your weird obsession.

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    "Weird obsession". You may find it weird because on this painful and embarrassing issue you happen to be in the majority. The majority of American males "sport" wounded weenies. Most of them are in deep denial on this issue, particularly those, who themselves having suffered the unkindest cut, visit the same sins upon their innocent, newborn sons so they can be "just like daddy". Blood rituals tend to become intergenerational.

    Should you ever happen to visit a nude beach in Europe, Canada or Australia you might find yourself to be in the minority ~ and considered to look a bit weird.
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  93. stickman says:

    Rurik: You have been fed a crock of beans as to “massive quantities of bacteria” in the pocket. Current medical science indicates that the “cheese” phenomenon includes a significant proportion of natural anti-bacterial secretions. Yes, headhunters (of both sexes, i believe) do tend to prefer the easy access solution. So the re-engineering is good for something, as Wee Willie Cliltclincher discovered with Monica, the Rabbi’s daughter.

    However, the primary animal function of the organ is severiously diminished as there is no natural lube, nor is that piston ensleeved. Or as a woman in Holyoke, Colorado explained it, “the difference between cut men and the natural man is that the first is like being pounded with leather while the other is like being stroked with satin.”

    Though i know of no scientific surveys taken on the issue, it strikes me as quite logical, judging from various anecdotal sources beginning with dorm-talk in my college years; that a significant proportion of altered males get off better from what some call “good healing head” than by way of the primary act. That makes sense in that the few remaining nerve endings in the organ are more readily assuaged and excited by the teasing tongue than the loving lips.

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    So the re-engineering is good for something
     
    I'm talking about more and better blowjobs and you dismiss this as merely "something"! I dare say your prerogatives are skewed

    the primary animal function of the organ is severiously diminished as there is no natural lube
     
    well, from my understanding the lube comes (effusively) from the heaven's gate itself, and not from those who pass (gratefully) through it

    “the difference between cut men and the natural man is that the first is like being pounded with leather while the other is like being stroked with satin.”
     
    well sir, here again, from my (admittedly limited) understanding, most of the ladies (if they're being honest with you) would proclaim from on high that being pounded is much t0 be preferred than merely being stroked. At least in the latter stages.

    A nice satin stroke is fine for getting the engine running, but soon it's those pistons pounding away like pile drivers on acid that gets the job done. ;)
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  94. stickman says:
    @Boris
    Since you need it spelled out for you:

    1. No one argues that only burning jet fuel brought down the WTC.
    2. No one argues that the steel was melted.

    So why is “Burning jet fuel can’t melt steel!” relevant? It isn't. It's clearly a slogan recited by someone who doesn't know what the actual argument is.

    If the massive steel support beams were NOT melted, how the hell did the buildings collapse ~ into their own signature, no less?

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  95. stickman says:
    @Unapologetic White Man
    You've got me all figured out just by my simple request that you support your assertion.

    You must be brilliant.

    Carry on with your weird obsession.

    “Weird obsession”. You may find it weird because on this painful and embarrassing issue you happen to be in the majority. The majority of American males “sport” wounded weenies. Most of them are in deep denial on this issue, particularly those, who themselves having suffered the unkindest cut, visit the same sins upon their innocent, newborn sons so they can be “just like daddy”. Blood rituals tend to become intergenerational.

    Should you ever happen to visit a nude beach in Europe, Canada or Australia you might find yourself to be in the minority ~ and considered to look a bit weird.

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    So, what do you now about circumcision in America? How did it happen that it became a standard? Who were the activists promoting it?
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  96. Rurik says:
    @stickman
    Rurik: You have been fed a crock of beans as to "massive quantities of bacteria" in the pocket. Current medical science indicates that the "cheese" phenomenon includes a significant proportion of natural anti-bacterial secretions. Yes, headhunters (of both sexes, i believe) do tend to prefer the easy access solution. So the re-engineering is good for something, as Wee Willie Cliltclincher discovered with Monica, the Rabbi's daughter.

    However, the primary animal function of the organ is severiously diminished as there is no natural lube, nor is that piston ensleeved. Or as a woman in Holyoke, Colorado explained it, "the difference between cut men and the natural man is that the first is like being pounded with leather while the other is like being stroked with satin."

    Though i know of no scientific surveys taken on the issue, it strikes me as quite logical, judging from various anecdotal sources beginning with dorm-talk in my college years; that a significant proportion of altered males get off better from what some call "good healing head" than by way of the primary act. That makes sense in that the few remaining nerve endings in the organ are more readily assuaged and excited by the teasing tongue than the loving lips.

    So the re-engineering is good for something

    I’m talking about more and better blowjobs and you dismiss this as merely “something”! I dare say your prerogatives are skewed

    the primary animal function of the organ is severiously diminished as there is no natural lube

    well, from my understanding the lube comes (effusively) from the heaven’s gate itself, and not from those who pass (gratefully) through it

    “the difference between cut men and the natural man is that the first is like being pounded with leather while the other is like being stroked with satin.”

    well sir, here again, from my (admittedly limited) understanding, most of the ladies (if they’re being honest with you) would proclaim from on high that being pounded is much t0 be preferred than merely being stroked. At least in the latter stages.

    A nice satin stroke is fine for getting the engine running, but soon it’s those pistons pounding away like pile drivers on acid that gets the job done. ;)

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  97. utu says:
    @stickman
    "Weird obsession". You may find it weird because on this painful and embarrassing issue you happen to be in the majority. The majority of American males "sport" wounded weenies. Most of them are in deep denial on this issue, particularly those, who themselves having suffered the unkindest cut, visit the same sins upon their innocent, newborn sons so they can be "just like daddy". Blood rituals tend to become intergenerational.

    Should you ever happen to visit a nude beach in Europe, Canada or Australia you might find yourself to be in the minority ~ and considered to look a bit weird.

    So, what do you now about circumcision in America? How did it happen that it became a standard? Who were the activists promoting it?

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  98. epebble says:

    The rise of the aerostate: U.S. carriers scramble as Persian Gulf rivals emerge:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/the-rise-of-the-aerostate-us-carriers-scramble-as-persian-gulf-rivals-emerge/2016/04/29/a14da5f6-0b2c-11e6-a6b6-2e6de3695b0e_story.html

    Will United and American become the GM and Chrysler?

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  99. @James O'Meara
    "You don’t like the fact that he insults the pansies and fakers in the race, Engelhardt? Too bad."

    Yeah, I'm getting so tired of the whole "Trump issues insults" line. If a liberal or leftist said the same things it would be lauded as "brilliantly provocative" etc. a la Jon Stewart Leibowitz. Or "You're no Jack Kennedy" etc.

    Here in California the politicians can spout racial slurs at whites and never have any consequences.

    http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2006/08/san-diego-don-perata-crackers-slur.html

    If it were something against any other race, the nation would have gone into lockdown and activists would be calling for UN intervention.

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  100. @stickman
    But Boris, the simple physical FACT that the highest attainable temperatures of burning jet fuel is NOT capable of melting hardened steel is about as basic as you can get. What is it that you do not grasp vis your own cognitive dissonance?

    But it can weaken the steel severely. It doesn’t have to melt. There’s a YouTube video you can probably find where a guy takes a steel beam, heats the middle to burning jet fuel temperature, and bends the thing effortlessly.

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    There’s a YouTube video you can probably find where a guy takes a steel beam, heats the middle to burning jet fuel temperature, and bends the thing effortlessly.

    yeah.

    and we’ve all seen the many, many photos of the melted, bent steel of the Third Tower, which proves that it was destroyed exactly that way.

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