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I don’t tweet, but I do have a brief message for our president: Will you please get the hell out of the way for a few minutes? You and your antics are blocking our view of the damn world and it’s a world we should be focusing on!

Maybe it was the moment, more than a week ago, when I found myself reading Donald Trump’s double tweet aimed at MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski who, on Morning Joe, had suggested that the president might be “possibly unfit mentally.”

“I heard,” the president tweeted, “poorly rated @Morning_Joe speaks badly of me (don’t watch anymore). Then how come low I.Q. Crazy Mika, along with Psycho Joe, came… to Mar-a-Lago 3 nights in a row around New Year’s Eve, and insisted on joining me. She was bleeding badly from a face-lift. I said no!”

In response to Trump’s eerie fascination with women’s blood, Brzezinski tweeted a shot of the back of a Cheerios box that had the phrase “Made for Little Hands” on it. And so it all began, days of it, including the anti-cyber-bullying First Lady’s rush (however indirectly) to her husband’s side via her communications director who said, “As the First Lady has stated publicly in the past, when her husband gets attacked, he will punch back 10 times harder.”

But one tweet truly caught my attention, even if it was at the very beginning of a donnybrook that, with twists and turns, including claims of attempted White House blackmail over a National Enquirer article (and Trumpian rejoinders of every kind), would monopolize the headlines and fill the yak-o-sphere of cable TV for days. That tweet came from conservative idol Bill Kristol, editor at large for the Weekly Standard. It said: “Dear @realDonaldTrump, You are a pig. Sincerely, Bill Kristol.”

Blinded to Our Planet and Its Troubles

Strange but at that moment another moment — so distant it might as well have been from a different planet or, as indeed was the case, another century — came to my mind. Donald Trump was still finishing his high school years at a military academy and I was a freshman at Yale. It would have been a weekend in the late spring of 1963. One of my roommates was a working-class kid from Detroit, more of a rarity at that elite all-male school than this New York Jew (in the years when Yale was just removing its Jewish quotas). And here was another rarity: we had a double date with two young women from a local New Haven Catholic college.

That night, out of pure ignorance, we violated Yale’s parietal hours — a reality from another century that no one even knows about anymore. Those young women stayed in our rooms beyond the time the school considered… well, in that world of WASPs, kosher might not be the perfect word, but you get what I mean. Let me hasten to add that, in those forbidden minutes, I don’t believe I even exchanged a kiss with my date.

Note to readers: Be patient. Think of this as my version of a shaggy dog (or perhaps an over-combed Donald) tale. But rest assured that I haven’t forgotten our Tweeter-in-Chief, not for a second. How could I?

Anyway, the four of us left our room just as a campus cop was letting another student, who had locked himself out, back into his room opposite ours. When he saw us, he promptly demanded our names and recorded them in his notebook for violating parietal hours (which meant we were in genuine trouble). As he walked down the stairs, my roommate, probably a little drunk, leaned over the bannister and began shouting at him. More than half a century later, I have no memory of what exactly he yelled — with the exception of a single word. As Bill Kristol did the other day with our president, he called that cop a “pig.”

Now, I wasn’t a working-class kid. In the worst of times for my parents, the “golden” 1950s when my father was in debt and often out of work, I was already being groomed to move up the American class ladder. I was in spirit upper middle class in the fashion of that moment. I was polite to a T. I was a genuine good boy of that era. And good boys didn’t imagine that, in real life, even with a couple of beers under your belt, anyone would ever call the campus version of a policeman, a “pig.” I had never in my life heard such a thing. It simply wasn’t the way you talked to the police then, or (until last week) the way you spoke to or of American presidents. Not even Donald Trump.

In other words, when Kristol of all people did that, it shocked me. Which means, to my everlasting shame, that I must still be a good boy, even if now of a distinctly antediluvian sort. Mind you, within years of that incident, it had become a commonplace for activists of the left (though, I must admit, never me) to call the police — the ones out in the streets hassling antiwar protesters, black activists, and others — “pigs.” Or rather “the pigs.”

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So here’s a question I’m now asking myself. If Kristol can do it with impunity, then why not Tom Engelhardt, 54 years later? Why not me all these years after American presidents green-lighted secret prisons and torture, invaded and occupied countries around the world; ordered death and mayhem without surcease; sent robotic assassins across the planet to execute, on their say-so alone, those they identified as terrorists or enemies (and anyone else in the vicinity, children included); helped uproot populations in numbers not seen since World War II; oversaw the creation of a global and domestic surveillance state the likes of which would have stunned the totalitarian rulers of the twentieth century; and pumped more money into the U.S. military budget than the next eight major states spent combined, which of course is just to start down a long list?

Under the circumstances, why not bring a barnyard animal to bear on the twenty-first-century presidency, the office that in its glory days decades ago used to be referred to as “the imperial presidency”? After all, as I’ve written before, Donald Trump is no anomaly in the Oval Office, even when, as with Scarborough and Brzezinski, he tweets and rants in a startlingly anomalous fashion for a president. He is instead a bizarre symptom of American decline, of the very thing he staked his presidential run on: the fact that this country is no longer “great.”

Of course, tactically speaking, engaging in name-calling with Donald Trump is essentially aiding and abetting his presidency (something the media does daily, even hourly). He and his advisers are of a schoolyard sticks-and-stones-will-break-my-bones-but-names-will-never-hurt-me mentality. As the Washington Post reported recently, they consider such insult wars a form of “winning” and a way to eternally engage the “fake news media” on grounds they consider advantageous, in a way that will endlessly stoke the president’s still loyal base.

To my mind, however, that’s hardly the most essential problem with such language. I suspect that the tweets and insults — whether Trump’s, Scarborough’s, or Kristol’s — act as a kind of smoke screen. In readership and viewership terms, of course, they’re manna from heaven for the very “fake news media” Trump loves to hate. They’re “wins” for them as well. In the process, however, the blood, the pigs, and all the rest of the package of Washington’s insult wars help keep our eyes endlessly glued on the president and on next to nothing else in our world. They blind us to our planet and its troubles.

Can there be any question that Donald Trump’s greatest talent is his eternal ability to suck the air out of the media room? It was a skill he demonstrated in stunning fashion during the 2016 election campaign, accumulating an unprecedented $5 billion or so in free media coverage on his way to the White House. It’s safe to say, I think, that never in history have so many cameras, so many reporters, and so many eyes been focused so never-endingly on one man. He looms larger than life, larger than anything in our screen-rich world. He essentially blocks the view, day and night.

In that sense — in the closest I’ve probably come to such an insult myself — I recently labeled him our own “little big man.” He’s petty, small in so many ways, but he looms so large, tweet by bloody tweet, that it’s hard to see the burning forest for the one flaming tree.

The Overheated Present and an Overheating Future

Take North Korea. On Friday, June 30th, when the Scarborough-Brzezinski brouhaha was going full blast, Trump met with the new South Korean president, Moon Jae-in, and the two of them spoke to the media in the White House Rose Garden, taking no questions. The president’s comments on the Korean situation were strikingly grim and blunt. “The era of strategic patience with the North Korean regime,” he said, “has failed. Frankly, that patience is over.” He then added, “We have many options with respect to North Korea.”

As it happens, we know (or at least could know) a little about the nature of those “options.” Only the day before, Trump’s national security adviser, Lieutenant General H.R. McMaster, confirmed reports that a new set of options had indeed been prepared for the president. “What we have to do,” he told a Washington think tank, “is prepare all options because the president has made clear to us that he will not accept a nuclear power in North Korea and a threat that can target the United States and target the American population.” As McMaster himself made clear, “all options” included new military ones, assumedly for hitting the North and its nuclear program hard.

Now keep in mind that, leaving its still modest but threatening nuclear arsenal aside, the conventional firepower the North Koreans have arrayed along their border with South Korea, aimed at that country’s capital, Seoul, a city of 25 million only 30 miles away, is believed to be potentially devastating. Add to that the 28,500 U.S. troops stationed in that country, most relatively close to the border, not to speak of 200,000 American civilians living there, and you undoubtedly have one of the most explosive spots on the planet. If hostilities broke out and spiraled out of control, as they might, countless people could die, nuclear weapons could indeed be used for the first time since 1945, and parts of Asia could be ravaged (including possibly areas of Japan). What a second Korean War might mean, in other words, is almost beyond imagining.

At the Trump-Moon Rose Garden event, the president also announced sanctions against a Chinese bank linked to North Korea and a $1.4 billion arms sale to Taiwan, both clearly meant as slaps at the Chinese leadership. In other words, when it came to getting China’s help on the Korean situation, Trump’s strategic patience, ignited in early April at his Mar-a-Lago meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping, seems to have worn out, too, in mere months.

In this context, if you thought that the Trump-Scarborough-Brzezinski feud was a tinderbox, think again. But tell me, did you even notice the Korean news? If not, I’m hardly surprised. On that Saturday morning, my hometown paper, the New York Times — you know, the all-the-news-that’s-fit-to-print rag of record — made “The Battle of ‘Morning Joe’: A Presidential Feud” its front page focal piece (with a carryover full page of coverage inside, including a second piece on the subject and that day’s lead editorial, “Mr. Trump, Melting Under Criticism.”)

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As for the Korean story, it made the bottom of page eight (“Trump Adopts a More Aggressive Stance with U.S. Allies and Adversaries in Asia”) and didn’t even mention the president’s “strategic patience” comments until its 16th paragraph. (There was also a page eight story on Trump’s Chinese bank sanctions and arms deal with Taiwan.)

And the Times was anything but atypical. Under the circumstances, you might be forgiven for thinking that the greatest story in our world (and its greatest danger) now lies in the Tweet-o-sphere. It took the first North Korean test of an intercontinental ballistic missile, carefully scheduled for July 4th, to break that country into the news in a noticeable way and even then Trump’s tweets were at the center of the reportage.

Similarly, if Trump and his antics didn’t take up so much room in our present American world, it might be easier to take in so many other potential dangers on a planet where matches seem in good supply and the kindling prepared for burning. You could look to the Middle East, for example, and the quickly morphing war against ISIS, which could soon become a Trump administration-lit fire involving Turkey, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and even Russia, among other states and groups. Or you could look to the possible future passage of some version of a Republican health care bill and the more than 200,000 preventable deaths that are likely to result from it in the coming decade.

Or you could focus on a president who has turned his back on the Paris climate agreement and is now plugging not just North American “energy independence” but full-scale “American energy dominance” on a planet on which he promises a new fossil-fueled “golden age for America.” In such an age, with such a president — if you’ll excuse the word — hogging the limelight, who’s even thinking about the estimated 1.4 billion “climate-change refugees” who could be produced by 2060 as the world’s lowlands flood? As a comparison, the 2016 figure on “forcibly displaced people” globally that set a post-World War II record, according to the U.N. refugee agency, is 65.6 million, a staggering number that would be but a drop in the bucket in our overheating future if those 2060 figures prove even close to accurate.

A World of a Tweeter-in-Chief and “Some Stirred-Up Moslems”

Donald Trump’s recent tweets do make one thing clear: we’ve been on quite an American journey over the last four decades, one that in some ways could be thought of as a voyage from Brzezinski (Jimmy Carter’s national security adviser, Zbigniew, who just died) to Brzezinski (Mika, his daughter).

In a way, you might say that, back in 1979, Brzezinski, the father, first ushered us into a new global age of imperial conflict. He was, after all, significantly responsible for ensuring that the U.S. would engage in a war in Afghanistan in order to give the Soviet Union its own Vietnam, or what Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev would later call its “bleeding wound.” He launched what would become a giant CIA-organized, Saudi- and Pakistani-backed program for funding, training, and arming the most fundamental of Afghan fundamentalists, and other anti-Soviet jihadists, including a young Saudi by the name of Osama bin Laden. (President Ronald Reagan would later term those Afghan Islamist rebels “the moral equal of our Founding Fathers.”) In doing so, Brzezinski set in motion a process that would drive an Islamic wedge deep into the heart of the Soviet Union and, after Soviet intervention in Afghanistan resulted in a disastrous decade-long war, would send the Red Army limping home in defeat, all of which would, in turn, play a role in the implosion of the Soviet Union.

On this subject, he would be forever unrepentant. As he said in 1998, “What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War?” And as for those millions of Afghans who would end up dead, wounded, or uprooted from their homes and lives, well, really, who cared?

We are now, of course, fully in that world of “stirred-up Moslems” and, as it happens, the U.S. is still fighting a war in Afghanistan as the new administration gets ready to surge militarily there, perhaps for the fourth or fifth time since October 2001, and who’s even paying attention? Who could with the latest presidential tweets headlining the news and all hands on deck in Washington for the insult wars?

If, in 1978, you had predicted that, between 1979 and 2017, the U.S. would twice find itself at war (for more than a quarter of a century so far) in, of all places, Afghanistan, and with no end to its Second Afghan War in sight, any American would have laughed you out of the room. And if you had tried to explain that, almost 40 years in the future, a billionaire president, literally a casino capitalist, would be running the White House as an adjunct to his family business and sending out bizarre messages about the daughter of Zbigniew Brzezinski, which would functionally be the news of that moment, you would surely have been institutionalized as a raving madman. A media obsessed with the travails of Zbigniew Brzezinski’s daughter Mika at the fervently tweeting hands of President Donald J. Trump? Who woulda thunk it?

Make America great again? You must be kidding. It’s time to stop insulting pigs and focus instead on the state of our planet.

Tom Engelhardt is a co-founder of the American Empire Project and the author of The United States of Fear as well as a history of the Cold War, The End of Victory Culture. He is a fellow of the Nation Institute and runs TomDispatch.com. His latest book is Shadow Government: Surveillance, Secret Wars, and a Global Security State in a Single-Superpower World.

(Republished from TomDispatch by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Funny, I thought this was going to be a balanced article that included comments about how the legacy media constantly insults Trump and spins things anyway they can to make Trump look bad, and how all that is divisive to our nation. I thought it was going to mention how all of this is an effort to subvert the will and desires of the Americans who elected Trump.

    LOL. I didn’t really think that – even for a second. After all, this is Tom Engelhardt. The deplorables are invisibile and inconsequential

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    Well said. The legacy media and permanent ("deep") state are struggling to savage Trump with abssurd accusations, but our cage-fighter is keeping them at bay with his smart-phone.

    Meanwhile, journalist (and that's in the best sense) Lee Stranahan is building a solid case on the DNC's crimes, including collusion with a foreign government. Please share this -
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    The MUST SEE guide to DNC/Ukraine Collusion and Election Interference
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  2. Your side made it personal Tom. Your side made it clear they hate not just Trump but the entire white race. I never before engaged in identity politics. It has been my habit to condemn the D’s and R’s equally for ruining the country. But now that the DNC and the corporate media have marked me for destruction my skin color, gender and sexual orientation have become my politics. Check out CNNs ratings. Make a sober assessment of the DNCs prospects. Look at recent polling indicating the people are not buying the constant lies about Russia and Putin. You are reaping the whirlwind Tom.

    Trump’s foreign policy is indefensible. But his enemies remain my enemies. Trump has made it clear that he will not be a punching bag. In this way he speaks for me. If your very special prosecutor is successful in his coup attempt against our president there will be hell to pay.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Good points. The realisation that the program of white genocide is real - and deliberate - can really help with focusing. Meanwhile, Tom sounds kinda lost and unsure.
    , @yeah
    Hear, hear. Well said.

    Yes, Tom and his ilk made it personal, throwing aside any semblance of fairness, balance, common sense, and commitment to truth.

    Tom complains that Trump looms large "tweet by bloody tweet". So Tom what do you propose to do? Gag the President? Deny him his tweeting rights? Mr. Trump has single-handedly shown up the media for the mendacious, fraudulent lot that they are. Bought and paid-for bunch of whores, that's what they are. Do you know how he did it, Tom? He did it "tweet by bloody tweet" and by talking to ordinary folk in ordinary language about ordinary problems.

    There is much to criticize in Trump - indeed in any President. But the criticism has to be honest, balanced, and in good faith. There are rules even in partisan politics. In the case of attacking Trump, all rules have been tossed aside, all decency and truth forgotten, and all blows aimed only below the belt. And that is why his supporters will also dig in their heels and say "Yes, bring it on you bunch of ....".
    , @CanSpeccy

    his [Trump's] enemies remain my enemies.
     
    You sure?

    Or is it just that the globalist hyenas have decided to cut America's white working class some slack to deflect a rising tide of deplorable anger?

    Is Trump not a fake people's champion who talks deplorable, who talks of getting along with the Russians, but who promotes East European Russophobic nationalism while the Pentagon, in total defiance of Presidential rhetoric, pursue Russian defeat in Syria and Russian humiliation in the Ukraine and Crimea?

    Is not Trump a fake People's President, a front for the spooks, the bankers, and globalist's for genocide of the European people and the destruction of the sovereign, democratic, nation state?

  3. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @WorkingClass
    Your side made it personal Tom. Your side made it clear they hate not just Trump but the entire white race. I never before engaged in identity politics. It has been my habit to condemn the D's and R's equally for ruining the country. But now that the DNC and the corporate media have marked me for destruction my skin color, gender and sexual orientation have become my politics. Check out CNNs ratings. Make a sober assessment of the DNCs prospects. Look at recent polling indicating the people are not buying the constant lies about Russia and Putin. You are reaping the whirlwind Tom.

    Trump's foreign policy is indefensible. But his enemies remain my enemies. Trump has made it clear that he will not be a punching bag. In this way he speaks for me. If your very special prosecutor is successful in his coup attempt against our president there will be hell to pay.

    Good points. The realisation that the program of white genocide is real – and deliberate – can really help with focusing. Meanwhile, Tom sounds kinda lost and unsure.

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  4. @The Scalpel
    Funny, I thought this was going to be a balanced article that included comments about how the legacy media constantly insults Trump and spins things anyway they can to make Trump look bad, and how all that is divisive to our nation. I thought it was going to mention how all of this is an effort to subvert the will and desires of the Americans who elected Trump.

    LOL. I didn't really think that - even for a second. After all, this is Tom Engelhardt. The deplorables are invisibile and inconsequential

    Well said. The legacy media and permanent (“deep”) state are struggling to savage Trump with abssurd accusations, but our cage-fighter is keeping them at bay with his smart-phone.

    Meanwhile, journalist (and that’s in the best sense) Lee Stranahan is building a solid case on the DNC’s crimes, including collusion with a foreign government. Please share this -

    The MUST SEE guide to DNC/Ukraine Collusion and Election Interference

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    • Replies: @El Dato
    Well the information is a bit spread out and M. Stranahan should have those slides ready and easily retrievable at a second's notice but he sure is a good speaker.
    , @annamaria
    Agree.
    Meanwhile, here is a sensational article re "great America:" "CIA Agent Confesses On Deathbed: ‘We Blew Up WTC7 On 9/11" http://yournewswire.com/cia-911-wtc7/
  5. Ah Just some more salty tears from those who hate Trump for talking to the people without going through the “ministry of truth” that Democrats and Marxist have worked so hard to build up.

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  6. So, he’s sticking to that whole “The science is settled” canard, eh?

    I guess I’ll go along with a further buildup of the world’s biggest military, but only if they promise to use it against the 1.6 billion Climate Refugees headed our way.

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  7. I find the straight talking refreshing, having politicians saying polite things in front of the camera and then kill people in foreign wars or spying on everyone or being generally corrupt is much worse.

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  8. The insults and mimicking coming from the left are increasingly ugly and violent. The violence in language is a lead up to the physical violence — James Hodgkinson, anyone?

    See:

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/07/trumps-would-be-assassins.html

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    • Replies: @anon
    I clicked on the link posted above and found an article by Mr.Foster that is more impressive than anything posted on Unz recently. Simply great!

    Any way Unz would consider this as a featured article?

  9. The Media has been insulting Trump for decades, and they have gone DEFCON 1 since his campaign started.

    In the Art of the Deal, Trump says right in his book that, though he’s advised to turn the other cheek, he just can’t do it….it’s not in his nature. Fighting back is in Trump’s nature, it’s who he is, and it is stunning that the retarded legacy media still cannot figure this out.

    READ HIS DAMN BOOK FOOLS!!!! Trump writes the rules, not clown journalists making $50K a year.

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  10. Hey, Engelhardt, I think you misspent this to Unz. It was supposed to go to HuffPo or Salon. We love it when Trump shows his utter contempt for the media and his enemies. It is about time an American president shut their arrogant mouths, if even for the space of a Twitter comment.

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    @Stephen Paul Foster
    The insults and mimicking coming from the left are increasingly ugly and violent. The violence in language is a lead up to the physical violence -- James Hodgkinson, anyone?

    See:
    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/07/trumps-would-be-assassins.html

    I clicked on the link posted above and found an article by Mr.Foster that is more impressive than anything posted on Unz recently. Simply great!

    Any way Unz would consider this as a featured article?

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  12. I don’t tweet, but if I did, I’d write something like “Dear @Kristol, If Trump is a pig, you are the daily output of Mr. Trump. Sincerely, @DaveE”

    I’d be molested (or arrested) for anti-Semitism, however.

    So please cut the “we’re so poisecuted” crap, Mr. Englehardt. No pun intended. The media fully deserves to wallow in its own boiling filth for all eternity.

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  13. @RobinG
    Well said. The legacy media and permanent ("deep") state are struggling to savage Trump with abssurd accusations, but our cage-fighter is keeping them at bay with his smart-phone.

    Meanwhile, journalist (and that's in the best sense) Lee Stranahan is building a solid case on the DNC's crimes, including collusion with a foreign government. Please share this -
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfNe5WsmKwU
    The MUST SEE guide to DNC/Ukraine Collusion and Election Interference

    Well the information is a bit spread out and M. Stranahan should have those slides ready and easily retrievable at a second’s notice but he sure is a good speaker.

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    Well, ya. Some people don't like the whole Periscope media genre. Lee is building to a final report that will be crisp and professional. He's also making a movie about George Soros (poster child of the Deep State).

    Here he is on RT, very sharp.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X90HX4a79F0
    Where’s the Gate in Russiagate?
  14. I don’t read Tom Engelhardt much. He’s predictable. He pulls his punches. He’s never truly original.

    I’ve noticed also that Englehart never has a sharply critical word to say about the elephant in the room. I always presumed that he was just another housebroken leftist that would never dare growl at his master. But I was wrong. Englehart is Jewish. This explains everything. He’s a Zionist gatekeeper.

    Englehardt even takes time to complain about the nasty, long-ago ‘quotas’ on Jews at Yale. Oh how they suffer!

    The fact is that Jews have never been underrepresented in the Ivy League. Never. Will Jewish crocodile tears never end?

    Whites, Mr. Englehard (these are the people whose ancestors founded Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Dartmouth, etc) are greatly underrepresented at all the Ivys. Not Jews. And whites are still being targeted via ‘affirmative action’ (quotas). Jew on the other hand are way overrepresented at elite US colleges. Is it time to target Jews using affirmative action, Mr. Engelhardt? After all, you don’t seem to be bothered by quotas on whites.

    Anyway, thank you for disclosing your primary identity, Mr. Englehart. Unz readers, take note.

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  15. May 5, 2016 The Myth of Authority

    This video, created and submitted by”GeoShifter,” was the winner of the recent video contest, to see who could make the best video to go along with the narration.

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    I didn’t get past boohoo sob sob I’m a poor unfortunate picked upon jew. Sob sob boohoo my parents were not mega rich.

    And even though Yale practiced vicious discrimination against Jews I managed to get in instead of the 2 legged animal goyim
    because even the evil anti Semite admissions people recognized my genius.

    Curse curse curse curse curse curse

    Trump was elected. I hope he’s elected again. The more the idiot intellectuals and MSM propagandists hate him the more I like him. On the various propositions on the ballot I always used to vote opposite of the reccomendations published in my city’s major newspaper because I knew their recommendations were wrong.

    BTW a lot of life long liberal baby boomers have at long last turned against the demorats because of the public bathroom issue. All the states, counties and cities are under federal orders to establish gender neutral bathrooms in public buildings.

    It takes time to remodel and get new signs but it’s happening and every time someone drops into the local library etc and sees the new bathroom the demorats lose another vote. Old people are more likely to go to the social security office and hospitals and see the new signs than young people.

    Maybe the liberals have finally overstepped themselves. Latest thing against Trump is that he shook Mme. Macron’s hand in a “dominant masculine
    manner”. Oy vey.

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  17. @El Dato
    Well the information is a bit spread out and M. Stranahan should have those slides ready and easily retrievable at a second's notice but he sure is a good speaker.

    Well, ya. Some people don’t like the whole Periscope media genre. Lee is building to a final report that will be crisp and professional. He’s also making a movie about George Soros (poster child of the Deep State).

    Here he is on RT, very sharp.

    Where’s the Gate in Russiagate?

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  18. ANON says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    “In a way, you might say that, back in 1979, Brzezinski, the father, first ushered us into a new global age of imperial conflict. He was, after all, significantly responsible for ensuring that the U.S. would engage in a war in Afghanistan in order to give the Soviet Union its own Vietnam, or what Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev would later call its “bleeding wound.”

    Jews were furious about us going into Afghanistan as an anti Soviet measure because the Soviet Union with its genocide of the goyim, gulags, takeover of E Europe, plans to take over the rest of the world, was the supreme, supreme achievement of Jewry in the last 5,000 years.

    The creation of the soviet union and its genocide of 100 million goyim by jews was nothing to the creation of Israel, the murder of a million or so Palestinians, a couple hundred thousand middle easterners including the American sailors on the USS Liberty and the confiscation of Palestine.

    The soviet union was Jews highest and most beloved and defended achievement. Naturally Jews hate Brzezinski because in most of the 20th century to be anti Soviet was to be anti semitic.

    Many Jews still claim that that Polish Pope who worked with Lech Walesa to overturn the evil empire drove the trucks that carried the gas containers to Auschwitz and hunted down Jews to
    turn over to the Germans. Stalin is still the hero because he fought Hitler.

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  19. Trump is an embarassment. He has finally done it he discredited the office of the preidnecy and any faith Americans had left in their institutions. All that’s left now is nihilism and political tribalism, with both the left and the right are left with lusting after power devoid of any principle or idea

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    • Replies: @ANON
    You must read newspapers and watch CNN, MSNBC, Democracy Now, Travis Smiley and the rest of what the White hating liberals write and say.

    99 percent of the time whatever the MSM claims is dead wrong

    , @MarkinLA
    I was starting to think you were serious but you stuck this in there to let us in on your little joke: All that’s left now as though the period of the left and right lusting after power devoid of any principle or idea has just started.
    , @Wally
    Clearly you voted for Hillary. Oh the agony !!

    Reactions to Trump Victory, hilarious !!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ-FUptkUNY

    Anyway, so far, so good:
    President Trump Has Now Signed 40 Pieces Of Legislation As He Moves To Enact His Agenda
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/25/president-trump-has-now-signed-40-pieces-of-legislation-as-he-moves-to-enact-his-agenda/
  20. @WorkingClass
    Your side made it personal Tom. Your side made it clear they hate not just Trump but the entire white race. I never before engaged in identity politics. It has been my habit to condemn the D's and R's equally for ruining the country. But now that the DNC and the corporate media have marked me for destruction my skin color, gender and sexual orientation have become my politics. Check out CNNs ratings. Make a sober assessment of the DNCs prospects. Look at recent polling indicating the people are not buying the constant lies about Russia and Putin. You are reaping the whirlwind Tom.

    Trump's foreign policy is indefensible. But his enemies remain my enemies. Trump has made it clear that he will not be a punching bag. In this way he speaks for me. If your very special prosecutor is successful in his coup attempt against our president there will be hell to pay.

    Hear, hear. Well said.

    Yes, Tom and his ilk made it personal, throwing aside any semblance of fairness, balance, common sense, and commitment to truth.

    Tom complains that Trump looms large “tweet by bloody tweet”. So Tom what do you propose to do? Gag the President? Deny him his tweeting rights? Mr. Trump has single-handedly shown up the media for the mendacious, fraudulent lot that they are. Bought and paid-for bunch of whores, that’s what they are. Do you know how he did it, Tom? He did it “tweet by bloody tweet” and by talking to ordinary folk in ordinary language about ordinary problems.

    There is much to criticize in Trump – indeed in any President. But the criticism has to be honest, balanced, and in good faith. There are rules even in partisan politics. In the case of attacking Trump, all rules have been tossed aside, all decency and truth forgotten, and all blows aimed only below the belt. And that is why his supporters will also dig in their heels and say “Yes, bring it on you bunch of ….”.

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  21. The 15,000,000 strong Jew matrix is going to eliminate Trump.

    In his Washington Post op-ed titled “Bungled collusion is still collusion,” Krauthammer said he had been puzzled by the claims that President Donald Trump and the White House had been colluding with Russia, due to the fact there was no solid evidence. However, when Donald Trump Jr. released a chain of emails Tuesday, Krauthammer believed that pushed the Russia scandal into a new phase, one from which it will be impossible for Trump to recover.

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/14/krauthammer-trumps-defense-of-russia-narrative-as-dem-nonsense-officially-dead/

    The Jews smell blood – they are going to do it. They fear he is taking down their 60-year propaganda campaign of divide and conquer politics.

    The only question is will he fight them by name. Calling the Jew MSM “fake news” will not stop them – he has to go all the way and name the Jew Matrix.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. Matt Drudge (a matrix man) is already pumping up VP Pence.

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  22. ANON says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @One Eye
    Trump is an embarassment. He has finally done it he discredited the office of the preidnecy and any faith Americans had left in their institutions. All that's left now is nihilism and political tribalism, with both the left and the right are left with lusting after power devoid of any principle or idea

    You must read newspapers and watch CNN, MSNBC, Democracy Now, Travis Smiley and the rest of what the White hating liberals write and say.

    99 percent of the time whatever the MSM claims is dead wrong

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  23. @One Eye
    Trump is an embarassment. He has finally done it he discredited the office of the preidnecy and any faith Americans had left in their institutions. All that's left now is nihilism and political tribalism, with both the left and the right are left with lusting after power devoid of any principle or idea

    I was starting to think you were serious but you stuck this in there to let us in on your little joke: All that’s left now as though the period of the left and right lusting after power devoid of any principle or idea has just started.

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  24. @RobinG
    Well said. The legacy media and permanent ("deep") state are struggling to savage Trump with abssurd accusations, but our cage-fighter is keeping them at bay with his smart-phone.

    Meanwhile, journalist (and that's in the best sense) Lee Stranahan is building a solid case on the DNC's crimes, including collusion with a foreign government. Please share this -
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfNe5WsmKwU
    The MUST SEE guide to DNC/Ukraine Collusion and Election Interference

    Agree.
    Meanwhile, here is a sensational article re “great America:” “CIA Agent Confesses On Deathbed: ‘We Blew Up WTC7 On 9/11″ http://yournewswire.com/cia-911-wtc7/

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    Well, that is just too, too perfect. And the long preparation... what can they say, that their plan was to only destroy one building? Way too incriminating if true. Do you have any way to check it out?

    So many things coming to a head.
    , @CanSpeccy
    You don't need no goddam deathbed confession to know that 9/11 was an inside job.

    A grasp of Grade 12 physics tells you that the WTC towers, including WTC 7, had to be rigged for demolition and destroyed by explosives.

    If the CIA didn't either do it or stand idly by as others within its purview did it, then the agency should be shut down for mind-blowing incompetence.

  25. Perfectly stated, Mark.

    It’s the ludicrous and fake 6,000,000 which let’s the usual enemies of free speech get away with murder..

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  26. @One Eye
    Trump is an embarassment. He has finally done it he discredited the office of the preidnecy and any faith Americans had left in their institutions. All that's left now is nihilism and political tribalism, with both the left and the right are left with lusting after power devoid of any principle or idea

    Clearly you voted for Hillary. Oh the agony !!

    Reactions to Trump Victory, hilarious !!

    Anyway, so far, so good:
    President Trump Has Now Signed 40 Pieces Of Legislation As He Moves To Enact His Agenda

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/25/president-trump-has-now-signed-40-pieces-of-legislation-as-he-moves-to-enact-his-agenda/

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  27. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    I heard this on NewsHour today and wanted to share. This was in reference to Trump campaign but I think it explains our national character well:

    “A faith that makes losing a sin will make cheating a sacrament.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/in-trumps-world-innocence-is-proved-by-guilt/2017/07/13/07e69a82-67ea-11e7-8eb5-cbccc2e7bfbf_story.html?utm_term=.5081716040da

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Highly applicable to Zionist Jews and their impossible '6M'.

    Knowing that they cannot debate the 'holocaust' claims, stalking and threats then become the norm for the desperate Zionist liars.

    recommended:
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11221
  28. @annamaria
    Agree.
    Meanwhile, here is a sensational article re "great America:" "CIA Agent Confesses On Deathbed: ‘We Blew Up WTC7 On 9/11" http://yournewswire.com/cia-911-wtc7/

    Well, that is just too, too perfect. And the long preparation… what can they say, that their plan was to only destroy one building? Way too incriminating if true. Do you have any way to check it out?

    So many things coming to a head.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    This could be a fake (written by someone who is not a former CIA agent), but the confession does sound believable.
  29. Since the bipartisan War Party will not permit the guy to express his own preferred policies on the issues without threat of impeachment, why not try tweeting them? I’d appreciate at least a hint of what to look out for before it lands on my head. Moreover, they can’t be that complex to require more than 140 characters whether he or the neocons make them up. Plus they wouldn’t be filtered and distorted by the media as everything else is. No need to impinge on prime time TV, just tweet the State of the Union come January. For more innovative ideas to streamline American governance, just view the movie “Idiocracy.” I understand “The Rock” wants to be our next president. Life imitating art, I suppose.

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  30. @RobinG
    Well, that is just too, too perfect. And the long preparation... what can they say, that their plan was to only destroy one building? Way too incriminating if true. Do you have any way to check it out?

    So many things coming to a head.

    This could be a fake (written by someone who is not a former CIA agent), but the confession does sound believable.

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    It sounds believable because it's so familiar. Just look at CanSpeccy's reply.

    Meanwhile, there are deathbed confessions right and left:

    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/republican-who-sought-clintons-e-mails-from-russian-hackers-committed-suicide
    I linked to Vanity Fair because their report seems most accurate and objective. Others are headlining with [[FAKE]] certain Russian connection. This is neutral.

    Here's the original WSJ article from July 1, 2017.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-activist-who-sought-clinton-emails-cited-trump-campaign-officials-1498872923

  31. Englehardt spent his younger life studying how to kill people with overt violence. He graduated fully prepared to deliver the most effective weapon of all – writing. So, ‘Tom’s propaganda’ is distributed to a large number of our favorite social media sites.

    Simple, folksy tales of how the world works is how the state inculculates the populace in an immolating empire.

    A summary of what we’ve read: “Ignore that circus, what we have over here is serious, but not too serious, because there’s nothing you can do about it anyway ‘because politicians’ ”

    Englehardt et al underhandedly support the status quo by pretending to resist it, pretending that you do have some kind of say in how the country is run. Protecting the status qup by disabling you and preventing any real challenges via their weapon of information may be what runs the country, but you will need alternatives for survival.

    Incidentally, Ralph Nader has never strayed from this basic formula in 50 years. His role is to disable rising dissatisfaction (quality control issues) in a country based on military capitalism. It’s always the ones you least suspect. As Nader ages, he writes that enemies of empire are somehow suicidal. Presumably, someone will decide who the “enemies” are long after this delusionally arrogant CIA agent passes away. He won’t live to see the death of the internal combustion engine he worked so hard to protect. The horrendous cost and questionable benefits to the world the automobile wrought are inextricably linked to the genocidal war in which time he rose to fame.

    Spooks with credentials. Most of the effort spent by our “press’ is to deliver propaganda to the flock is so that they adopt the ‘proper world view’. (This is something we learned in high school) The fans still aspire to read, believe and comment with their own thoughts on the content authored by ex-military patriots, and champions of the constitution. who appear to be “working for the good of mankind.”

    Once we’re able to graduate from the false idea that what we read is delivered by people who have benevolent goals for us – whether it’s Turse or the credentialed sociopath whose own son died senselessly in combat – in a war that he “strenously disagreed” with – we can begin to grow a sense of our own captivity. We understand that monitoring the populace is second only to delivering propaganda to them, and then we can reject their fairy tales and nonsense.

    Soldiers in many wars (not just that war) shot their commanding officers in the back of the head, they knew the only way to survive would be a complete divorce from the hapless fantasies of their abusers. Hi Pig!

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  32. @WorkingClass
    Your side made it personal Tom. Your side made it clear they hate not just Trump but the entire white race. I never before engaged in identity politics. It has been my habit to condemn the D's and R's equally for ruining the country. But now that the DNC and the corporate media have marked me for destruction my skin color, gender and sexual orientation have become my politics. Check out CNNs ratings. Make a sober assessment of the DNCs prospects. Look at recent polling indicating the people are not buying the constant lies about Russia and Putin. You are reaping the whirlwind Tom.

    Trump's foreign policy is indefensible. But his enemies remain my enemies. Trump has made it clear that he will not be a punching bag. In this way he speaks for me. If your very special prosecutor is successful in his coup attempt against our president there will be hell to pay.

    his [Trump's] enemies remain my enemies.

    You sure?

    Or is it just that the globalist hyenas have decided to cut America’s white working class some slack to deflect a rising tide of deplorable anger?

    Is Trump not a fake people’s champion who talks deplorable, who talks of getting along with the Russians, but who promotes East European Russophobic nationalism while the Pentagon, in total defiance of Presidential rhetoric, pursue Russian defeat in Syria and Russian humiliation in the Ukraine and Crimea?

    Is not Trump a fake People’s President, a front for the spooks, the bankers, and globalist’s for genocide of the European people and the destruction of the sovereign, democratic, nation state?

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    • Replies: @WorkingClass
    I guess you missed the part where I said "Trump’s foreign policy is indefensible."
  33. @annamaria
    Agree.
    Meanwhile, here is a sensational article re "great America:" "CIA Agent Confesses On Deathbed: ‘We Blew Up WTC7 On 9/11" http://yournewswire.com/cia-911-wtc7/

    You don’t need no goddam deathbed confession to know that 9/11 was an inside job.

    A grasp of Grade 12 physics tells you that the WTC towers, including WTC 7, had to be rigged for demolition and destroyed by explosives.

    If the CIA didn’t either do it or stand idly by as others within its purview did it, then the agency should be shut down for mind-blowing incompetence.

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  34. @CanSpeccy

    his [Trump's] enemies remain my enemies.
     
    You sure?

    Or is it just that the globalist hyenas have decided to cut America's white working class some slack to deflect a rising tide of deplorable anger?

    Is Trump not a fake people's champion who talks deplorable, who talks of getting along with the Russians, but who promotes East European Russophobic nationalism while the Pentagon, in total defiance of Presidential rhetoric, pursue Russian defeat in Syria and Russian humiliation in the Ukraine and Crimea?

    Is not Trump a fake People's President, a front for the spooks, the bankers, and globalist's for genocide of the European people and the destruction of the sovereign, democratic, nation state?

    I guess you missed the part where I said “Trump’s foreign policy is indefensible.”

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    • Replies: @CanSpeccy

    I guess you missed the part where I said “Trump’s foreign policy is indefensible.”
     
    Which one? His "wouldn't it be great if we got along with the Russians", or his "bomb the shit out of" a Syrian air base used by the Russians because of some fake WMD incident?

    Read one way, Trump's a patriot, a defender of nation state democracy, a defender of the working stiff, Christendom, and all good things to everyone equally.

    One can be pretty sure, though, that he's there for the same reason that Bill Clinton Dubya and Obarmy were there, to deflect working-class, and increasingly middle-class, anger while the hyenas rip to shreds the rotting carcass of the American nation and the globalist project becomes unstoppable.

  35. @annamaria
    This could be a fake (written by someone who is not a former CIA agent), but the confession does sound believable.

    It sounds believable because it’s so familiar. Just look at CanSpeccy’s reply.

    Meanwhile, there are deathbed confessions right and left:

    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/republican-who-sought-clintons-e-mails-from-russian-hackers-committed-suicide

    I linked to Vanity Fair because their report seems most accurate and objective. Others are headlining with [[FAKE]] certain Russian connection. This is neutral.

    Here’s the original WSJ article from July 1, 2017.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-activist-who-sought-clinton-emails-cited-trump-campaign-officials-1498872923

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  36. @WorkingClass
    I guess you missed the part where I said "Trump’s foreign policy is indefensible."

    I guess you missed the part where I said “Trump’s foreign policy is indefensible.”

    Which one? His “wouldn’t it be great if we got along with the Russians”, or his “bomb the shit out of” a Syrian air base used by the Russians because of some fake WMD incident?

    Read one way, Trump’s a patriot, a defender of nation state democracy, a defender of the working stiff, Christendom, and all good things to everyone equally.

    One can be pretty sure, though, that he’s there for the same reason that Bill Clinton Dubya and Obarmy were there, to deflect working-class, and increasingly middle-class, anger while the hyenas rip to shreds the rotting carcass of the American nation and the globalist project becomes unstoppable.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Trump was clearly, obviously and undoubtedly not installed by the Deep State. How do we know that? Because they've spent last vestiges of MSM's credibility trying to keep him out of the White House. It was (and is) pure desperation.

    That being said, Trump lacks knowledge and wisdom so the battle is not over yet. They've already pushed him into making multiple mistakes. He might end up working for them fully without knowing it.
    , @WorkingClass
    I clearly said foreign policy. I clearly did not say campaign rhetoric. You clearly have an ax to grind. You don't like Trump. I get it. I don't care.
  37. @anon
    I heard this on NewsHour today and wanted to share. This was in reference to Trump campaign but I think it explains our national character well:

    "A faith that makes losing a sin will make cheating a sacrament."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/in-trumps-world-innocence-is-proved-by-guilt/2017/07/13/07e69a82-67ea-11e7-8eb5-cbccc2e7bfbf_story.html?utm_term=.5081716040da

    Highly applicable to Zionist Jews and their impossible ’6M’.

    Knowing that they cannot debate the ‘holocaust’ claims, stalking and threats then become the norm for the desperate Zionist liars.

    recommended:

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11221

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Just trying to shimmy in that Holocaust anywhere you can, ain't ya?
  38. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @CanSpeccy

    I guess you missed the part where I said “Trump’s foreign policy is indefensible.”
     
    Which one? His "wouldn't it be great if we got along with the Russians", or his "bomb the shit out of" a Syrian air base used by the Russians because of some fake WMD incident?

    Read one way, Trump's a patriot, a defender of nation state democracy, a defender of the working stiff, Christendom, and all good things to everyone equally.

    One can be pretty sure, though, that he's there for the same reason that Bill Clinton Dubya and Obarmy were there, to deflect working-class, and increasingly middle-class, anger while the hyenas rip to shreds the rotting carcass of the American nation and the globalist project becomes unstoppable.

    Trump was clearly, obviously and undoubtedly not installed by the Deep State. How do we know that? Because they’ve spent last vestiges of MSM’s credibility trying to keep him out of the White House. It was (and is) pure desperation.

    That being said, Trump lacks knowledge and wisdom so the battle is not over yet. They’ve already pushed him into making multiple mistakes. He might end up working for them fully without knowing it.

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    • Replies: @CanSpeccy

    Trump was clearly, obviously and undoubtedly not installed by the Deep State.
     
    I didn't say he was. But the MSM is not the deep state, and anyhow, Fox news, Breitbart and many other significant branches of the media worked for Trump's election. Even Time magazine, the house organ of the CIA, put his mug on the front cover and gave him pretty good write ups.

    And in fact, it is only since the election, that the MSM has truly melted down over Trump. During the campaign, Trump was backed by the hedge funds, Sheldon Adelson, and the RNC to name a few of those who put up cash to pay for his campaign. In addition, lots of little people contributed what in total was a lot of money.
  39. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Wally
    Highly applicable to Zionist Jews and their impossible '6M'.

    Knowing that they cannot debate the 'holocaust' claims, stalking and threats then become the norm for the desperate Zionist liars.

    recommended:
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11221

    Just trying to shimmy in that Holocaust anywhere you can, ain’t ya?

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  40. @Anonymous
    Trump was clearly, obviously and undoubtedly not installed by the Deep State. How do we know that? Because they've spent last vestiges of MSM's credibility trying to keep him out of the White House. It was (and is) pure desperation.

    That being said, Trump lacks knowledge and wisdom so the battle is not over yet. They've already pushed him into making multiple mistakes. He might end up working for them fully without knowing it.

    Trump was clearly, obviously and undoubtedly not installed by the Deep State.

    I didn’t say he was. But the MSM is not the deep state, and anyhow, Fox news, Breitbart and many other significant branches of the media worked for Trump’s election. Even Time magazine, the house organ of the CIA, put his mug on the front cover and gave him pretty good write ups.

    And in fact, it is only since the election, that the MSM has truly melted down over Trump. During the campaign, Trump was backed by the hedge funds, Sheldon Adelson, and the RNC to name a few of those who put up cash to pay for his campaign. In addition, lots of little people contributed what in total was a lot of money.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The MSM was one of the most valuable tools of the Deep State. I thought everyone knew that. And the US Deep State is just a part of the larger, Globalist Deep State.

    They've thrown everything they had (MSM, celebrities, "grass-roots" astroturfers, politicians, social media gatekeepers etc.) at him and lost. You obviously don't realise how uneven this battle was/is and why the Nationalists are still kicking the Globalists' butt.
    , @annamaria
    "But the MSM is not the deep state"
    The MSM is a tool and projection of "deciders"
  41. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @CanSpeccy

    Trump was clearly, obviously and undoubtedly not installed by the Deep State.
     
    I didn't say he was. But the MSM is not the deep state, and anyhow, Fox news, Breitbart and many other significant branches of the media worked for Trump's election. Even Time magazine, the house organ of the CIA, put his mug on the front cover and gave him pretty good write ups.

    And in fact, it is only since the election, that the MSM has truly melted down over Trump. During the campaign, Trump was backed by the hedge funds, Sheldon Adelson, and the RNC to name a few of those who put up cash to pay for his campaign. In addition, lots of little people contributed what in total was a lot of money.

    The MSM was one of the most valuable tools of the Deep State. I thought everyone knew that. And the US Deep State is just a part of the larger, Globalist Deep State.

    They’ve thrown everything they had (MSM, celebrities, “grass-roots” astroturfers, politicians, social media gatekeepers etc.) at him and lost. You obviously don’t realise how uneven this battle was/is and why the Nationalists are still kicking the Globalists’ butt.

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  42. @CanSpeccy

    Trump was clearly, obviously and undoubtedly not installed by the Deep State.
     
    I didn't say he was. But the MSM is not the deep state, and anyhow, Fox news, Breitbart and many other significant branches of the media worked for Trump's election. Even Time magazine, the house organ of the CIA, put his mug on the front cover and gave him pretty good write ups.

    And in fact, it is only since the election, that the MSM has truly melted down over Trump. During the campaign, Trump was backed by the hedge funds, Sheldon Adelson, and the RNC to name a few of those who put up cash to pay for his campaign. In addition, lots of little people contributed what in total was a lot of money.

    “But the MSM is not the deep state”
    The MSM is a tool and projection of “deciders”

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    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
    The MSM is a tool and projection of “deciders”

    Some of it. Some not. Is Fox News an instrument of the Deep State? And anyway, what is the point now of distinguishing between the NY Times and the Alt media. Everyone reads both. So there's a huge piece of the media that is not MSM, and is not aligned with the MSM or the Deep State, whatever that may be.
  43. @CanSpeccy

    I guess you missed the part where I said “Trump’s foreign policy is indefensible.”
     
    Which one? His "wouldn't it be great if we got along with the Russians", or his "bomb the shit out of" a Syrian air base used by the Russians because of some fake WMD incident?

    Read one way, Trump's a patriot, a defender of nation state democracy, a defender of the working stiff, Christendom, and all good things to everyone equally.

    One can be pretty sure, though, that he's there for the same reason that Bill Clinton Dubya and Obarmy were there, to deflect working-class, and increasingly middle-class, anger while the hyenas rip to shreds the rotting carcass of the American nation and the globalist project becomes unstoppable.

    I clearly said foreign policy. I clearly did not say campaign rhetoric. You clearly have an ax to grind. You don’t like Trump. I get it. I don’t care.

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    • Replies: @CanSpeccy

    I clearly said foreign policy.

     

    To which I clearly responded. Viz:

    Which one? His “wouldn’t it be great if we got along with the Russians”, or his “bomb the shit out of” a Syrian air base used by the Russians because of some fake WMD incident?
     

    You clearly have an ax to grind.
     
    Does anyone here not have an ax to grind?

    You don’t like Trump. I get it. I don’t care.
     
    I don't care that you don't care, though I I'm glad you get it that I don't support Trump's perpetuation of Middle East wars for global empire.
  44. @WorkingClass
    I clearly said foreign policy. I clearly did not say campaign rhetoric. You clearly have an ax to grind. You don't like Trump. I get it. I don't care.

    I clearly said foreign policy.

    To which I clearly responded. Viz:

    Which one? His “wouldn’t it be great if we got along with the Russians”, or his “bomb the shit out of” a Syrian air base used by the Russians because of some fake WMD incident?

    You clearly have an ax to grind.

    Does anyone here not have an ax to grind?

    You don’t like Trump. I get it. I don’t care.

    I don’t care that you don’t care, though I I’m glad you get it that I don’t support Trump’s perpetuation of Middle East wars for global empire.

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  45. @annamaria
    "But the MSM is not the deep state"
    The MSM is a tool and projection of "deciders"

    The MSM is a tool and projection of “deciders”

    Some of it. Some not. Is Fox News an instrument of the Deep State? And anyway, what is the point now of distinguishing between the NY Times and the Alt media. Everyone reads both. So there’s a huge piece of the media that is not MSM, and is not aligned with the MSM or the Deep State, whatever that may be.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Those outlets that belong to 6 mega corporations can be safely looked upon as the obliging tools. The alternative media is not part of MSM, hence the name.
    , @RobinG

    "..... between the NY Times and the Alt media. Everyone reads both."
     
    GOOD GRIEF !!! Everyone? Most people don't read either - they read their local paper (check headlines) and watch TV. And as for the ones who do [read either] just look at comments for how many proudly say they no longer read MSM. But mainstream people read mainstream news. You're in some weirdo bubble.

    For non-fake news, check Populist TV. Here's Lee Stranahan on Periscope:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfNe5WsmKwU
    The MUST SEE guide to DNC/Ukraine Collusion and Election Interference
  46. @CanSpeccy
    The MSM is a tool and projection of “deciders”

    Some of it. Some not. Is Fox News an instrument of the Deep State? And anyway, what is the point now of distinguishing between the NY Times and the Alt media. Everyone reads both. So there's a huge piece of the media that is not MSM, and is not aligned with the MSM or the Deep State, whatever that may be.

    Those outlets that belong to 6 mega corporations can be safely looked upon as the obliging tools. The alternative media is not part of MSM, hence the name.

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    • Replies: @CanSpeccy

    The alternative media is not part of MSM, hence the name.
     
    Not a very suitable name, surely. After all, Drudge probably receives more page views than WaPo, so what's not "mainstream" about that?

    Why not to refer to corporate media as just that, the corporate media, if by MSM you mean corporate. Or better still, why not differentiate according to bias, e.g., globalist, liberal, anti-white, Zionist, or whatever, since examples of almost every kind of bias are to be found among both the corporate titles and the alt media.
  47. @annamaria
    Those outlets that belong to 6 mega corporations can be safely looked upon as the obliging tools. The alternative media is not part of MSM, hence the name.

    The alternative media is not part of MSM, hence the name.

    Not a very suitable name, surely. After all, Drudge probably receives more page views than WaPo, so what’s not “mainstream” about that?

    Why not to refer to corporate media as just that, the corporate media, if by MSM you mean corporate. Or better still, why not differentiate according to bias, e.g., globalist, liberal, anti-white, Zionist, or whatever, since examples of almost every kind of bias are to be found among both the corporate titles and the alt media.

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  48. @CanSpeccy
    The MSM is a tool and projection of “deciders”

    Some of it. Some not. Is Fox News an instrument of the Deep State? And anyway, what is the point now of distinguishing between the NY Times and the Alt media. Everyone reads both. So there's a huge piece of the media that is not MSM, and is not aligned with the MSM or the Deep State, whatever that may be.

    “….. between the NY Times and the Alt media. Everyone reads both.”

    GOOD GRIEF !!! Everyone? Most people don’t read either – they read their local paper (check headlines) and watch TV. And as for the ones who do [read either] just look at comments for how many proudly say they no longer read MSM. But mainstream people read mainstream news. You’re in some weirdo bubble.

    For non-fake news, check Populist TV. Here’s Lee Stranahan on Periscope:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfNe5WsmKwU

    The MUST SEE guide to DNC/Ukraine Collusion and Election Interference

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    GOOD GRIEF !!! Everyone? Most people don’t read either – they read their local paper
     
    I suppose you're right. One forgets how provincial Americans are.
  49. @RobinG

    "..... between the NY Times and the Alt media. Everyone reads both."
     
    GOOD GRIEF !!! Everyone? Most people don't read either - they read their local paper (check headlines) and watch TV. And as for the ones who do [read either] just look at comments for how many proudly say they no longer read MSM. But mainstream people read mainstream news. You're in some weirdo bubble.

    For non-fake news, check Populist TV. Here's Lee Stranahan on Periscope:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfNe5WsmKwU
    The MUST SEE guide to DNC/Ukraine Collusion and Election Interference

    GOOD GRIEF !!! Everyone? Most people don’t read either – they read their local paper

    I suppose you’re right. One forgets how provincial Americans are.

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    Provincial? like in some small towns back in the time, before megalopolusville?

    I don't think we have provincials anymore, just a lot of dumb ass city dopes, brainwashed to the max degree, TV addicted dumbasses. What small town... what small town newspapers?

    These kids today can't understand the concept of provincial, 'cause it is way gone! Brainwashed is what they are...
  50. @CanSpeccy

    GOOD GRIEF !!! Everyone? Most people don’t read either – they read their local paper
     
    I suppose you're right. One forgets how provincial Americans are.

    Provincial? like in some small towns back in the time, before megalopolusville?

    I don’t think we have provincials anymore, just a lot of dumb ass city dopes, brainwashed to the max degree, TV addicted dumbasses. What small town… what small town newspapers?

    These kids today can’t understand the concept of provincial, ’cause it is way gone! Brainwashed is what they are…

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    These kids today can’t understand the concept of provincial, ’cause it is way gone! Brainwashed is what they are…
     
    Yes, well I wasn't really thinking of Hillary supporters who are presumably beyond hope of enlightenment. Rather I was thinking of the citizen of small-town America where, one supposes, experience of the basic realities of human existence still prevail, and a significant deposit of common sense remains.

    But, according to the Pew Research Center, in 2016, most young Americans get most of their news online, twice as many as rely on TV, while almost none read the MSM, whether local or national. But what the survey does not say is where, online, people go for news.

    An interesting statistic is that whereas 89% of Democrats believe that news organizations keep political leaders honest, only 42% of Republicans agree. Details here.

  51. @edNels
    Provincial? like in some small towns back in the time, before megalopolusville?

    I don't think we have provincials anymore, just a lot of dumb ass city dopes, brainwashed to the max degree, TV addicted dumbasses. What small town... what small town newspapers?

    These kids today can't understand the concept of provincial, 'cause it is way gone! Brainwashed is what they are...

    These kids today can’t understand the concept of provincial, ’cause it is way gone! Brainwashed is what they are…

    Yes, well I wasn’t really thinking of Hillary supporters who are presumably beyond hope of enlightenment. Rather I was thinking of the citizen of small-town America where, one supposes, experience of the basic realities of human existence still prevail, and a significant deposit of common sense remains.

    But, according to the Pew Research Center, in 2016, most young Americans get most of their news online, twice as many as rely on TV, while almost none read the MSM, whether local or national. But what the survey does not say is where, online, people go for news.

    An interesting statistic is that whereas 89% of Democrats believe that news organizations keep political leaders honest, only 42% of Republicans agree. Details here.

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  52. The presstituting faux “academic” at Harvard: “Yascha Mounk Feeds New Lies”

    http://www.moonofalabama.org

    Poor Yascha was not able to do a simple search of primary sources. Who made a decision to invite this feeble-minded opportunist to lecture at Harvard? Guess it was the tribal solidarity that propelled this “eternal victim” to the sinecure.

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