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This article deserves a far wider audience than it has received since being published. [Race, Welfare, and Media Lies, October 17, 2019]:

When you talk to leftists about race, it doesn’t take long for them to bring up some variation of “most people on welfare are white.” As we’ll see, this is simply not true. And you don’t even have to delve into the grade-school concept of per capita welfare rates to explain this. In absolute terms, whites are a minority of users. But this doesn’t stop lefties from making claims like this:

  • Rick Newman, a senior columnist for Yahoo Finance wrote in an August 19, 2019 column that, “whites are the largest group of welfare recipients in the United States, while immigrants are far more entrepreneurial than native-born Americans.” The article offers no link to a source.
  • A Newsweekarticle from January 12, 2018 announces: “In fact, whites are the biggest beneficiaries when it comes to government safety-net programs like the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, commonly referred to as welfare.” Again, no source.
  • A June 8, 2018 “Code Switch” segment on NPR featured Rachel Wetts, a doctoral candidate in sociology at the University of California, Berkeley, who chirped, “Even though members of all racial and ethnic groups are using these programs, white Americans tend to perceive them as mostly benefiting African-Americans. So, there’s a misperception of who the primary beneficiaries are of these programs.” This article cites figures for only one program, Medicaid, which is the handout that whites collect at the highest rate – though whites are still less than 50 percent of all recipients.
  • A Huffington Post piece from February 2018 was called, “Americans Are Mistaken About Who Gets Welfare.” It quotes Elizabeth Lower-Basch, a senior analyst with the Center for Law and Social Policy, who claims that “across the programs people overestimate the share of recipients who are black. It’s not surprising because we all know people’s images of public benefits is driven by stereotype.” This article is about who the public thinks is on welfare. It never considers usage rates nor the fact that there are about seven times more whites than blacks in the US.
  • In a February 16, 2017 article, Tracy Jan of the Washington Post claimed, “The biggest beneficiaries of the government safety net: working class whites.”

There are many other examples of either slanted reporting or just plain ignorance, and it’s not just leftists who fall for this stuff. I’ve heard Sean Hannity and Cal Thomas parrot nonsense. National Reviewflubbed on race and welfare in 2012.

The Department of Health and Human Services doesn’t hide figures on welfare, but the image on the HHS home page, labelled “administration for children and families” shows an unambiguously white family — perhaps for a reason. The urge to ignore the facts appears to be overwhelming. Here are the most recent numbers, which I have compared to 2018 population figures from the U.S. Census.

TANF

Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) is what most people think of when they say “welfare.” It pays cash directly to users. The amount varies by state. In 2018 (the most recent data available), there were over 2.27 million recipients, who got nearly $17 billion. Here’s the racial breakdown (Table 10):

Race % of Recipients % of Population
White 27.2% 60.4%
Black 28.9% 13.4%
Hispanic 37.8% 18.3%
Asian 1.9% 5.9%
American Indian 1.5% 1.3%
Multiracial 2.1% 2.7%

Whites are clearly an absolute minority of recipients: just 27.2 percent of the total. There are more blacks and Hispanics on welfare than whites. On a per capita basis, blacks are 4.8 times more likely than whites to get TANF, and Hispanics are 4.7 times more likely. Asians are only two-thirds as likely.

Interestingly, over 85 percent of TANF recipients are single or divorced, and only 13 percent are married. Conservatives have long argued that marriage reduces poverty.

Food stamps

The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) is better known as food stamps. In 2017, a staggering 42.1 million people got free food at a cost of $68 billion dollars. The racial breakdown (page 22):

Race % of Recipients % of Population
White 35.8% 60.4%
Black 25.4% 13.4%
Hispanic 16.5% 18.3%
Asian 3.2% 5.9%
American Indian 1.4% 1.3%
Multiracial 1.0% 2.7%
Unknown/Didn’t Say 16.8% NA

Again, whites are an absolute minority of food stamp users. The 16.8 percent of “race unknown or didn’t say” is high, but they are unlikely to be white. An even bigger story is that 8.2 percent of recipients are children of non-citizens. A further 8.6 percent are refugees or non-citizens. We import food-stamp users.

Medicaid

Medicaid is health insurance for poor people. An incredible 74 million people were on it in 2017 (up from 46 million in 2001). It is paid for by a combination of state and federal funds, and on average it accounts for a crushing 22 percent of state budgets. In 2018, Medicaid cost over $592 billion, and the racial breakdown for users in 2017 was as follows:

Race % of Recipients % of Population
White 41% 60.4%
Black 30% 13.4%
Hispanic 20% 18.3%
Asian 5% 5.4%
American Indian 1% 0.8%
Other 9% NA

Again, whites are an absolute minority, though their percentage of recipients for this expensive program is relatively high.

Section 8 and other public housing

In 2017, there were nearly 5 million households in the US getting housing assistance through the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). Most of them got Section 8 vouchers or lived in public housing. Blacks are massively over-represented.

Over 1 million people live in public housing. The racial breakdown is as follows:

Race % of Recipients % of Population
White 30% 60.4%
Black 42% 13.4%
Hispanic 23% 18.3%
Asian 2% 5.4%
American Indian 1% 0.8%

The “stereotype” of blacks in public housing is not false. There are more blacks than people of any other race in the projects, and on a per capita basis, they are 6.7 times more likely to be in them than whites.

This data is incredible, and should be the basis for any realistic conversation about public/social policy in America, but instead anyone who dared cite it would be instantly called “racist.”

That so few dare compile this easily accessible data is, of course, a reminder of the terror we all live under in the “free” country of the United States of America, where only a select few dare exercise their 1st Amendment rights…

Your tax dollars go to funding our own demographic dispossession.

 
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  1. D-FENS says:

    All dis maff stuff be a bunch of rayciss bullsheeet. Ya’ll jellus cuz we built da peermidz and sheet.

    • LOL: Augustus, Clyde
  2. “Medicaid is health insurance for poor people. An incredible 74 million people were on it in 2017 (up from 46 million in 2001). It is paid for by a combination of state and federal funds, and on average it accounts for a crushing 22 percent of state budgets.”

    22% is a huge number. Just think if everyone was on some sort of MCA.

    Interesting to see the demographic background 2001-2017
    Curious on what it would show.

  3. unit472 says:

    Be interesting to ‘refine’ the data for public housing. I knew many elderly people in Marin County who grew up there but ended up in public housing for seniors as they could not longer afford to pay rent or gave their house to their kids. OTOH no white person would dare live in ‘Marin City’ Marin’s only black ghetto and the home of Tupac Shakur.

    Samething in San Francisco. Public housing was such a horrible place to live only negroes could inhabit it. Elderly public housing was a bargain as it allowed old people to stay in the community they had always lived in and only pay 30% of their income to get a modest studio apartment in a city where rents and housing prices had soared.

  4. Perfect, textbook example of Lying With Statistics 101. Perfect. Never saw a better.

    Now I’m going to teach you childish ninnies something about statistics.

    When you are presented with statistics in support of some contention or other–check closely. Does it give BOTH percentages and numbers, plain raw numbers? If it only gives one or the other, but not both, then, be assured, you are being led up the garden path.

    “Examples? Murder increased by 100% in our town this year.” Sounds terrible, not? But now let’s fill in the raw numbers. Murders last year: 1. Murders this year: 2.

    Now that’s a hypothetical. Perhaps you dislike hypotheticals. They are not “taken from real life,” as you like to say.

    OK. Fair enough. Let’s take an example from real life. One that you I bet you will love.

    We are always told that blacks are more likely to be killed by cops than whites.

    This is true–if you only look at per capita percentages, then a higher percentage of blacks than whites are killed by cops.

    But if you look at the actual raw numbers, many more whites are killed by cops than blacks. So that means more, actually more, in the regular normal meaning of the word, more dead white bodies than dead black bodies.

    And yet no-one ever brings up the raw number when talking about cops killing.

    On the other hand, I assure you that the raw number of whites on welfare is larger than the raw number of blacks on welfare.

    Notice closely. No numbers, no raw numbers in the article.

    Consider yourself edified.

  5. Now for the reverse. This article DOES give raw numbers–and not percentages–when railing against the amount of money the government spends on welfare.

    Very tricky. Very perspicacious. Because, if they actually presented the amounts the government spends on welfare as a percentage of the 3.8 trillion dollar US budget, these paltry sums would melt away into true Insignificance, in the statistical sense.

    https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/

    The guy who wrote this article is a bald-faced liar. I hope none of you fall for this transparent crap.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Vinnie O
  6. Whites of a smarter era opposed psychotic LBJ’s big welfare plans because

    1) they knew blacks would go on welfare in huge numbers, and

    2) they knew welfare would “buy” black voters.

    They must’ve hated being right, as much as we do today.

    • Replies: @loren
  7. This article deserves wide circulation. Thank you, Paul Kersey.

  8. Anonymous[312] • Disclaimer says:

    In Britain the media constantly implies that white English are the most likely welfare recipients, or “benefit scroungers” in local parlance. This is because there is an attitude in Britain that the laziest, most useless people in society are the native English underclass.

    The most common stereotype of someone on benefits in the UK is a low class white English person, a “chav”. In reality there is likely many more non-whites on benefits, especially in the cities but they are not mentally associated with benefits the way low class white natives are.

  9. Sixty years ago a good portion of Protestant Christendom had a healthy and accurate view of Black dysfunction. The Mormons did not allow black men into the priesthoods, which effectively deterred black conversion to Mormonism. And while the institutional Catholic church was universalist and not opposed to miscegenation most Catholics individually did not approve and where there were sizable numbers of black Catholics they usually got their own parish, to mutual satisfaction.

    Now almost all of Christendom has become an instrument of white disposession. I believe that nations in the true sense of the word-a nation is a race, basically-are God-ordained. We are not all to be mixed together but be separate. We need different modes of worship, different languages, different outlooks on life.

    • Replies: @Alden
  10. This article doesn’t go far enough

    It doesn’t breakdown who pays the taxes that funds these programs

    • Replies: @D-FENS
    , @David
  11. D-FENS says:
    @Baron Munchhausen

    This analysis considers the taxes paid by negroes and hispanics. It determined thst each negro costs a white person about $10,000 a year on average.

    http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/05/11/fiscal-impact-of-whites-blacks-and-hispanics/

    • Agree: Augustus
    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  12. El Dato says:
    @obwandiyag

    Because, if they actually presented the amounts the government spends on welfare as a percentage of the 3.8 trillion dollar US budget, these paltry sums would melt away into true Insignificance, in the statistical sense.

    Bruh, do you even scroll?

    It’s right there.

    (Btw, never ever draw Pie Diagrams. They are unreadable shit. Bar diagrams is the way to go. Pie Diagrams: for Marketdroids)

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
  13. HT says:

    The only reason we can’t get rid of or reduce most welfare programs is because of blacks. They would cry the loudest and as we know they always get their way.

    • Replies: @Augustus
  14. @obwandiyag

    Now that you’ve taught us statistics, can you teach my cat French?

    I can’t get her past “le’meow”.

    I would not be surprised to learn that you’re a professor at an all black university.

  15. David says:
    @Baron Munchhausen

    Maybe an interesting avenue for SBPDL to explore is what the various financial costs imposed on white society by black people would be expressed as multiples of Black National Product, BNP, all income “earned” by black Americans. I once made a back-of-the-envelope estimation that, if one assumes 40% of all US policing, criminal courts and incarceration is attributable to blacks, 100% of BNP isn’t enough to cover that cost.

    Maybe subsidized heath care, housing, food, and education all account for 100% or more of BNP each. Maybe blacks consume 1000% of BNP directly and indirectly. Maybe whites consume 60% of WNP. No idea. Be interesting to know.

    • Replies: @Vinnie O
    , @Hail
    , @J
  16. Seneca44 says:

    Don’t know if this data is available, but it would be germane to see what proportion of the Medicaid dollars are for nursing home care. A great number of not necessarily poor people outlive their resources and end up in the Nursing Home at state expense (This can easily exceed $90K per year for even a bad nursing home) . In many states, that is the number one line item cost in the Medicaid budget!

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  17. loren says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    worse was his signing the (((( 1965 immigration act)))…
    USA populations gone way up and Whites are a minority in grade schools.

    • Agree: Curmudgeon, Sick of Orcs
    • Replies: @Cauchemar du Singe
  18. @obwandiyag

    RIDDLE ME THIS, BATMAN.

    What’s 6.5% but also 50%?

    • Agree: AR in Illinois
    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Anonymous
  19. @Seneca44

    The nursing home industry (not to be confused with the assisted living industry) would disappear overnight without Medicaid. 62% of nursing home residents are on Medicaid.

    Here are the numbers:
    https://www.kff.org/infographic/medicaids-role-in-nursing-home-care/

    The owners of these nursing homes have lobbyists to make sure that the program never dies.

    This is the classic case of the government funding the rich (nursing home owners) while claiming to help the poor.

    • Agree: Triumph104
    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
  20. @Detective Callahan

    It’s always the same. Blacks who contribute little in terms of taxes want to feed off of whites who supply the majority of the taxes. They resent whites spending their own money on themselves and their own areas and scream, “Why ain’t we gettin’ none of dat? Why y’all neglectin’ us? Gibs us sum of dat too! Y’all racist!”

    It’s like going to lunch with someone who dropped out of high school, never applied themselves and thus has a minimum wage job whereas you worked hard, graduated H.S., went on to college and wound up with a great job. Then, the bum looks at the hamburger on his plate and the steak on yours and screeches, “Gibs me some! Why you got all that and I ain’t! You selfish!” or the bum wants a “deal” where he expects to contribute $2 to your $20 (so to speak) and then expects to divide the money in half so each of you gets an $11 dollar meal. What a deal!

    That’s why whites abandon towns and cities when blacks take over and get control of the city wallet. They know blacks are going to be stealing their money hand over fist and using it for themselves and dragging whites and their communities down to a much lower level of existence. White flight (in that regard) is simply whites getting the monkey’s paw out of their wallet.

  21. Twinkie says:

    The “stereotype” of blacks in public housing is not false.

    However, the stereotype of Asians parking their elderly in public housing is, apparently, given that they have the lowest public housing utilization rate per capita, even lower than that of whites.

    • Replies: @Piglet
    , @Alden
  22. Vinnie O says:
    @obwandiyag

    Well, gee, wow. I have this day received in the mail yet ANOTHER of Kersey’s books, which I read enthusiastically. I spent lo! these many years juggling statistics for the Government. I’m not seeing ANY of the problems you seem so concerned about. If you WANT the raw data, you can find it. But first read Charles Murray’s books on “The Bell Curve”. Professor Murray reaches all the same conclusions, excepting that Murray has essentially given up any hope that American governments will do anything to FIX the various problems.

    You are clearly part of the problem.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  23. Vinnie O says:
    @David

    Having never seen the numbers run quite that way, I believe you are correct. That certain segment of the population doesn’t hold up its end of the economy.

    But I believe Mr. Kersey comes VERY close to looking at the numbers in one or the other of his books. The destruction of St. Louis in particular, and of course the destruction of Detroit.

    It’s also useful to know that the reason the Flint (suburb of Detroit), Michigan, water supply was/is laced with dangerous levels of LEAD is because the same kind of people who run Detroit also run Flint. ALL of the press I ever saw on the leaded water in Flint ignored both the fact that the government is OVERWHELMING Democrat, but also the solidity of its racial makeup

  24. AceDeuce says:

    Here’s a recent news story that has to be read to be believed. I’ll post the link and some pertinent excerpts.

    ‘Anywhere you go, you’re accepted’: NE Ohio city named ‘Nicest Place in America’

    Reader’s Digest announced this month that it has selected Columbiana, Ohio as the Nicest Place in America. The city was nominated for its residents’ welcoming nature.

    More than 1,000 nominations were filed with Reader’s Digest for the Nicest Place in America designation. The magazine narrowed the field to one community in each state. Residents then voted on their communities. Reader’s Digest considered the votes when it chose the winner, Columbiana.

    ……Amid the country’s deep political divide, Columbiana runs against the prevailing anger and angst spewed so often on airwaves and social media. Earlier this month, Reader’s Digest announced that it had selected Columbiana the Nicest Place in America, noting how the city of 6,400 lifts its young and old, its thriving and its struggling.

    Reader’s Digest sought cities where people treat others well, where respect and community pride are seen in daily life.

    ……In some ways, Columbiana is typical of a lot of small cities in Ohio. It has a downtown in which nearly every storefront is owned and operated by local businesses. The only exception is a Subway sandwich shop, and that is owned by a city resident.

    A diversified manufacturing base makes up a good deal of the city’s workforce. Columbiana has several small to midsized businesses, including R&L trucking, which has about 300 employees. Vari-Wall, a tubing specialist, has about 100 workers.

    Columbiana’s unemployment rate hovers at 4 percent, which is lower than the rest of the region, which is about 6 percent.

    ……It leans conservative, a contrast to 40 years ago when the region’s steel and autoworkers backed Democrats. In 2016, Columbiana County, as a whole, gave Donald Trump nearly 70 percent of its vote.

    The crime rate is low, even in the shadows of Youngstown, a city north of Columbiana. In the 2000s, The Plain Dealer reported Youngstown was the murder capital of the country, on a per capita basis.

    Columbiana is about 20 miles from Youngstown, and a world away from its problems.

    “Things don’t build up here,’’ said Tom Yoder, the owner of Heck’s Restaurant, which serves up a full menu and the happenings of the city on a daily basis.

    “There’s not the tension of a big city. Everyone has opinions, but you don’t have that divisiveness here.’’

    Sounds great, right? How can they do this in 2019?

    One more excerpt that might explain it:

    …..Its population, according to the U.S. Census, is more than 98 percent white. City leaders are seeking ways to attract diversity.

    “Diversity, like variety, is the spice of life,’’ (Nicole) Ice said.

    Well, it was nice while it lasted.

    • Replies: @Oil 'n Water
    , @Hail
  25. Truth says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    Your median IQ as compared to the percentage of brainpower you provide in your family home?

  26. @obwandiyag

    Why would raw numbers matter in a demographically (racial) changing society? Whites are declining in numbers. What does this mean in practical terms for your raw number red herring? More welfare use in the future. ALL that matters is looking at who is overrepresented to see if your civilization will crumble.

    Consider yourself edified.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  27. @El Dato

    Pie charts are for those who have laser focus on their share of the pie.

  28. @Justvisiting

    All government spending goes through private corporations.

    The skim is always the cream off the top.

    Totally fascist. State/Business, a Borg entity.

    The solution is not for the government to hand out $$$ directly to the end user, but to get rid of the government that, in league with the Owners, created the situation.

  29. @Truth

    Oh I see, by giving yourself the humble handle “Truth” no one will suspect you know very little.

    It’s really working.

  30. @AceDeuce

    “Diversity, like variety, is the spice of life,’’

    Only if arsenic is considered a spice.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  31. @loren

    Hart (stooge) -(((Celler))) is this nation’s death warrant.

    • Replies: @loren
  32. Augustus says:
    @Non PC Infidel

    Oh no! I guess you won’t be buying lunch tomorrow? Now I gotta call another sucker.

    • Replies: @Non PC Infidel
  33. Augustus says:
    @HT

    Take heart. The day is coming when ALL social programs will have to be prioritized or cut. Our society is down to 10 or 15 years until interest on the national debt begins to overwhelm our economy. Future unfunded liabilities will be impossible to be met.

    • Replies: @HT
  34. loren says:
    @Cauchemar du Singe

    This fascinates me..tell me more.

    Canada, 1970–99% White…Whites will be a minority there.

    • Replies: @Cauchemar du Singe
  35. Augustus says:
    @Detective Callahan

    Notice the blame goes on racism and is blamed on white people

    The truth is black people are poor because they are stupid. They make bad decisions and blame others for their personal decisions. Mature or continue to fail!

    • Agree: AR in Illinois
    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  36. Hail says: • Website
    @David

    Black National Product, BNP, all income “earned” by black Americans. I once made a back-of-the-envelope estimation that, if one assumes 40% of all US policing, criminal courts and incarceration is attributable to blacks, 100% of BNP isn’t enough to cover that cost.

    As you wrote in early 2019 in a comment to a Pat Buchanan article:

    So even if we set aside all the hand outs, and the harm blacks cause to the lives of whites through their criminal behavior, blacks’ entire contribution to national income can’t cover the burden of policing themselves and punishing their crimes.

    Hard to imagine what prosperity and accomplishment America might have attained without the contribution of blacks’ distinct talent.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational, Bubba
    • Replies: @David
  37. Hail says: • Website
    @AceDeuce

    That article has now been posted as its own thread:

    Columbiana, Ohio, a 98% White City, Rated by Reader’s Digest As Nicest Place in America: City Leaders Promise They’re “Seeking Ways to Attract Diversity”

    I profiled City Manager (of Columbiana, Ohio) Lance Willard in a comment in that thread. He is a public figure and quoted in the Diversify Columbiana story you link to.

    Willard is an interesting, and to me sympathetic, figure. He is being manipulated by the same kinds of powerful interests that targeted and humiliated poor Ferguson, Missouri, shone the international spotlight on it and made it into a racial “whipping boy,” in the early 2010s.

  38. @Detective Callahan

    Sidesplitting 😀
    There is no way in Hell they can allow this to happen – it would work (with border shootouts between the respective PDs, of course).

    Bonus OT: Again the Swedish Grannies!

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/justice-64-of-federal-arrests-are-non-citizens-200-increase

  39. Agreed. And fat drunkard manslaughterer teddy kennedy was used as the useful idiot “face” of the ’65 immigration/invasion bill, lying openly that hart-celler “wouldn’t change demographics.”

    • Replies: @loren
  40. @D-FENS

    The methodology is conservative (upside: unassailable).
    Correction for overuse of schools, health, police and prisons
    (but NOT for affirmative action!) gives a 50 % higher total.

  41. @Augustus

    I’m afraid so. Lol. Reminds me of the time a friend and I were sitting at an outdoor cafe when a homeless guy came up to us wailing about how hungry he was. We gave him several dollars and he claimed he was going to go to McDonalds as the food was cheaper. We sat and watched as he ran halfway down the block and straight into a liquor store. After that, any time a bum asked me for money, I’d just tell the bum, “I’m sorry. All I have is credit cards.” The same reply works on groids who are collecting money for baska’ball teams, programs to teach da keeids ta read and other hustles.

    I watched a hilarious video where a bum in India was running up to cars and asking the occupants for money. When the occupants of one car told him they didn’t have anything but plastic, the bum pulled out a card reader. I’m surprised bums and other hustlers in America haven’t started doing that yet!

    • LOL: Augustus
    • Replies: @loren
  42. @Truth

    Troof! Where you bin, homie? Just get out of the can?

  43. @loren

    I’m in “moderation” way too much.
    I much prefer SBPDL in the previous format.

  44. HT says:
    @Augustus

    At that point our government will just devalue our currency. There is zero chance we can repay our debt and almost zero chance to even balance the budget. Inflation will take off and probably lead to some form of economic collapse which will lead to some form of Marxism which our third world population will embrace.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  45. Piglet says:
    @Twinkie

    It used to be that 90% of Koreans believed in the traditional way of caring for their aging parents — taking care of the elderly themselves. Parents worked hard all of their lives to provide every advantage to their kids who were to be their “retirement program.” In the course of a decade, that all changed as Korea became more westernized. Now only 30% of younger Koreans believe in taking care of their parents, and many are not above simply dumping an elderly parent at an old folks home and driving off without interacting with the staff at all. In these cases the elderly person, dumped off like trash, doesn’t want to give his or her name to the staff because of the shame the offspring have brought upon the family.

    Others, living by themselves and having enjoyed prosperous lives when they were younger and working, now find themselves slipping into poverty. They had put everything into their kids, but now their kids, all grown, won’t even return their phone calls.

    • Replies: @Alden
  46. @Vinnie O

    Liar. Shill. You don’t understand elementary statistics and so you just blither. Who cares what “problems” you see or don’t see.

    • Replies: @ShermanFan
  47. @HT

    Inflation will take off and probably lead to some form of economic collapse which will lead to some form of Marxism which our third world population will embrace.

    Agreed–I am planning based on that scenario.

    As a retired person that means no debt, very low public profile, modest home and vehicles, rural location, stocking up on anything that has a long shelf life, and cutting expenses low now with a contingency plan to cut them a lot lower if inflation hits.

    You do not want to have large bank or investment accounts because of the risk of both inflation and .gov redistribution schemes/seizures of assets. You want to minimize property taxes as best you can. You want to be able to plead poverty when necessary.

    That is how it is done in the third world.

  48. Alden says:
    @donvonburg

    The majority of blacks are Protestants.

  49. Alden says:
    @Twinkie

    Asians elders often don’t go into senior housing because part of the culture is that their unearned social security payments go into the common household pot.

    Their middle aged children & younger grandchildren need them for the SSI payments housework, baby sitting etc.

    It’s part of the deal.

    I, son will bring you, Mom and Dad, to America for Family Unification. In return, you will hand over to me your social security check ( that you never contributed a dime to). Plus any other benefits like food stamps. Plus you will stand in line at 2 or 3 free food banks every week.

    I, Mom or Dad, do promise to repay you, my son for sponsoring me for Family Unification by giving you my social security check every month, plus other benefits like food stamps and food I pick up at the free food banks.

    That’s why.

  50. Alden says:
    @Piglet

    There’s another side of that. The usual Asian Way is the children are expected to pay back, in money , the parents because the parents raised them.

    College is expensive in the US but most students get loans. So even if the Asian parents didn’t pay for college the children are expected to send the parents several hundred dollars a month till the parents die.

    A lot of 25- 45 year old Asians have to pay their student loans, pay the parents several hundred dollars, a month plus live in the expensive big cities most Asians live in.

    It’s The Asian Way. Nobody does something for nothing, not even raising their own children.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @Showmethereal
  51. loren says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    what I read is he said ‘6000 people would be added’—

    I pray he has a million bad reincarnations, here on earth.

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  52. loren says:
    @Non PC Infidel

    I got my nearly daily from india credit card scam call today…0% interest.
    I called him a liar and he cussed me.

    • Replies: @Non PC Infidel
  53. Twinkie says:
    @Alden

    There’s another side of that. The usual Asian Way is the children are expected to pay back, in money , the parents because the parents raised them…

    It’s The Asian Way. Nobody does something for nothing, not even raising their own children.

    That’s a complete nonsense. Parents in East Asia expect obedience and respect from their children (even well into adulthood), but most don’t sacrifice for their children for the sake of later compensation. They do so, because that actually is “the Asian way” – parents are expected to sacrifice so their children can go to good schools, enjoy affluence they themselves did not enjoy, and live well.

    I am much, much richer than my mother, but she never asked for a penny, nor would she ever accept one from me. She sends me money (or gives me money in person if visiting) every birthday of mine, Christmas, and lunar New Year’s day. Every. Single. Time. And also for my wife and children.

    I know many East Asian fathers who worked themselves to early graves, so that they children could go to good schools and live better than they ever did. The operative word here is “sacrifice.” That’s the one thing I learned about parenting from my East Asian parents – “Live (and die) for your children.”

    • Agree: Curmudgeon
    • Replies: @Piglet
  54. AnalogMan says:
    @obwandiyag

    What, you still here? And still throwing insults? Haven’t you learned yet?

    You are begging to be humiliated again.

  55. J says: • Website
    @David

    One way of conceptualizing this issue is that there is that a 50 million strong ethnic group is waging an aggressive war against “America”. To make America safe and liveable, America is forced defend itself, and defense costs money. The marginal cost of police forces, Medicaid, social security transfer payments and so detailed in the article could be accounted in a separate “protection” budget. Currently, this cost is hidden in thousands of separate items and it is almost invisible.

    On the other hand, given that the problem is insoluble, the current situation is more or less optimal and America is wealthy enough to carry it for the time being. I am not American but think that most Americans are vaguely aware of the above and have decided that it is better not to talk too much about it.

    • Replies: @Tony Schnee
  56. @loren

    It’s especially annoying when they call and, in an incredibly thick Indian accent say, “Hello, my name is Bob (or Bill or David) and I’m having a very special offer for you.” I usually crack up laughing and say, “Sure. Your name is Bob and my name is Indira Gandhi. Don’t call here again, you gandu”- (gahn-doo) which means arsehole in their language. Had one flip out and keep calling back multiple times screaming his head off. Called him a ban-chut/sister humper and a few other choice things and hung up and finally had to turn off the phone for a few hours as he went hysterical with rage and wouldn’t stop calling.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  57. @Non PC Infidel

    A communist is someone with nothing that insists on sharing.

    Your example sounds familiar

  58. @loren

    I’d rather Fat Teddy relive Mary Jo’s terrifying last minutes over and over for a few millennia.

  59. @obwandiyag

    Indeed. They love to show inner city minorities but never showmonce you get 90 minutes out of any major metro area it is populated by poor whites living as shabby as inner city minorities minus the street violence (rural areas dont lend themselves to street crime like inner cities). The absolut numbers are obviously completely different. Just like in raw numbers there are far more white drug addicts. That of course was hidden away until the opioid crises piled up the bodies and white life expectancy actually dropped now in the US. I am sure minorities will be blamed for that as well. You cant fix racist ideas though. What they should do is support the economic growth of Africa and Latin America. That way every non white will think of gling back. Then they can have what they want (but it didnt work too well in Europe which is why people fled to this continent in the 1st place). Though if the Native Americans start reproducing in numbers – and want to come off the reservation – there will be someone else to blame too.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  60. @Alden

    Well yeah in many ways Asians live a more biblical lifestyle than the so called Christian west. Children take care of parents and then parents take care of kids. That’s the bible way too. In Singapore they give you tax incentives to live near your aging parents. So you take care of your elderly rather than society.

  61. @Augustus

    That is interesting. My family is from the Caribbean and in the US are considered “black”. Since the 1970’s about 40 have migrated here. Of those 40 – only two have experienced long term welfare benefits and only 2 have been incarcerated. They are outcasts because of it. I will put our family achievements in terms of education – employment – home ownership against any white immigrant family in one gemeration. And we HAVE experienced discrimination on top of it. The difference is we didnt grow up under Jim Crow laws or urban redlining and such. But on the flip side we didnt come from a culture of living on government hand outs either. So we arent like the typical US born black who grew up in a sub par education system.

    • Replies: @Augustus
    , @Augustus
    , @Augustus
    , @WSG
  62. The Truth.
    Strange that it always seems to be racist ( a bullshit concept invented by a murdering Communist) AND anti-semitic (a bullshit term invented by a group to cover their criminality).
    Project Veritas: watch the truth about CNN and Jewish Privilege.

  63. @Showmethereal

    The absolut numbers are obviously completely different. Just like in raw numbers there are far more white drug addicts.

    I’m out of “Trolls” to award for this hour, so I’m just going to call you a liar.  Most of the White addicts were not addicts until they were prescribed the supposedly “non-addictive” OxyContin.  These addicts were literally created by the (((Sackler))) family and the doctors they duped.

    That of course was hidden away until the opioid crises piled up the bodies and white life expectancy actually dropped now in the US.

    Had there actually been that many addicts before, life expectancy would always have been low.

    I am sure minorities will be blamed for that as well.

    The Mexican drug cartels have done very well due to the increased heroin trade, but they’re hardly the ones to blame.  A certain (((tribe))) is.

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  64. WSG says:
    @Truth

    HAHA!!! The unpleasant realities of this article are bringing out the orc squad in force. SHEEIITT!!!

  65. Augustus says:
    @Showmethereal

    Did you read my last line? Obviously, your family has the required maturity. That is not the case with most American born blacks.

    Statistics show foreign born blacks in America generally do much better than native born blacks. Even those from Haiti (not noted for great education) do better financially and in business ownership than native born blacks. If you want to discuss education of blacks in America, I can do that too. Just let me know, as it will require a lengthy narrative from me.

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  66. Augustus says:
    @Showmethereal

    PS: I doubt ANY country on Earth spends as much money on education as we do here in America. Educational opportunity is far from an excuse for failure in the black community. That’s as bad an excuse as blaming Jim Crow or slavery. No one in America today was born under slavery, and only the very old lived under any Jim Crow laws. Those excuses don’t work anymore.

    • Replies: @Oil 'n Water
    , @Twinkie
  67. Augustus says:
    @Showmethereal

    PS: I doubt ANY country on Earth spends as much money on education as we do here in America. Educational opportunity is far from an excuse for failure in the black community. That’s as bad an excuse as blaming Jim Crow or slavery. No one in America today was born under slavery, and only the very old lived under any Jim Crow laws. Those excuses don’t work anymore.

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  68. @Augustus

    Those excuses don’t work anymore.

    Absolutely.

  69. WSG says:
    @Showmethereal

    Do your super-duper-magical family members indicate their race on college/employment applications? If so, then your so-called achievements literally mean jack shit.

  70. Pheasant says:
    @obwandiyag

    Look up the meaning of per capita.

    Blacks always do this. Like many have said they cannot do math.

    Also hispanics and others are counted as Whites.

  71. @obwandiyag

    obwandiyag———-I think we can refrain from trying to convince the low IQ and ignorant. Statistics are not needed.Just cut off all welfare,and then see who hollers.

    • Replies: @KenH
  72. Piglet says:
    @Twinkie

    Very true. A good friend is the daughter of a Korean mother forced into marriage at age 18 with a man twice her age shortly after the Korean War when the country was in ruins. Although he had come from a family of some wealth in the North, he was an alcoholic who couldn’t hold down a job and drank himself to death by the time my friend was 9. By then she also had a younger sister who was 5. People advised the mother to put the two girls up for adoption so she could more easily find a new man. If she had done so, the two girls would likely have received no education and would have been abused by whoever had them, and they would have had no future. Instead, the mother said no, she was keeping the two girls. There was a tremendous amount of sacrifice and life was very hard but they worked even harder, and in the long run it paid off. Both girls, now adults, have been very successful in their lives because of the sacrifices of their mother.

    You wrote, “I know many East Asian fathers who worked themselves to early graves.” You have probably heard of Korean fathers who send their wives and kids to the States so the kids can get a good education and learn English. Dads work their fannies off, making tremendous sacrifices for their families, both for the present and the future, and only on rare occasions do they get to visit their families in the States. The downside is that they live alone and without many comforts in Korea and the separation causes families to drift apart. The wife and kids only see the father occasionally and start to look at him as an ATM, not a father, because he’s so far away and not present in their daily lives, and he’s just someone who sends money.

    I don’t know what the answer is but I do know that East Asian parents endure tremendous hardships for their offspring.

    And at the other end of the family care spectrum you’ll find the dindus…

  73. Twinkie says:
    @Augustus

    PS: I doubt ANY country on Earth spends as much money on education as we do here in America.

    PUBLIC education, yes, the U.S.

    Fraction of household income spent on non-public education (e.g. extracurricular, tutoring, etc.)? South Korea.

  74. @obwandiyag

    The percentages are percentages of people on the programs, not percentages of the total population, so the absolute numbers would show the exact same trends, Einstein.

  75. @obwandiyag

    So then, we are all equal?
    On an equal and level basis of assessment?

    You speak of statistics, but spin them yourself. You analyze the data which you want to know and reject that which stands in contrast to your paradigm.

    So, please, spare us the suspense: name the majority black town, county, state, nation, booming in technology, cultural advancements, education, clean energy, with low crime, world leading GDP, that is built, run, and maintained by this black brain trust.

    I will wait.

    Wakanda isn’t real and neither is the fantasy of black equality.

    You know what really stinks? You see Hispanics are by and large good workers, whereas blacks are not.

    Many of us are aware of the real problem: blacks are no longer relevant outisde of entertainment. Sports, Music, television/movies, outside of that someone else can do it better. Blacks who can’t fit those roles struggle to exist in a world that is, well quite frankly, sick of your $h!t.

  76. @Non PC Infidel

    Non PC Infidel———-I watched a local White church become “welcoming” and “inclusive”. The pastor and congregation welcomed vibrant diversity. Within 3 years the pastor was voted out by the new members.About a year after that the churches all Black congregation had a fine church building paid for by Whitey.Local Blacks thought the situation quite funny.

    • LOL: Augustus
    • Replies: @Augustus
    , @Non PC Infidel
  77. @Mr. Rational

    I know you would like to believe that but the dirty secret any drug trafficker will tell you from the 70′ and 80’s is that middle and upper class whites kept the heroin and cocaine business thriving— not the poor people who stole radios to sell to get high. But you wont believe it so doesnt really matter.
    I would like to hear your conspiracy theory on crystal meth also.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  78. @Augustus

    Yes and that is my point. Black Americans grow up differently. So the issue is the system here.

    • Replies: @Augustus
    , @Jim in Jersey
  79. @Augustus

    Spending money is a rubbish example. Would you let your child go to school in a predominantly black or hispanic school district?? NO! Because deep down you know the inequity of the system. So don’t be a hypocrite. In any event spending the most on the military doesnt help win wars. Spending the most on healthcare doesnt give the longest life expectancy nor the best preventive care. Spending the most on transportation systems doesnt make the US have the best transportation infrastructure either. But let me guess – all those are because of black people right…???

  80. Augustus says:
    @Showmethereal

    How is the system different here?

  81. Augustus says:
    @Not Woke--Not Broke

    Diversity is NOT a strength. It can’t bring equality. Diversity costs a lot financially and in costs of crime.
    Instead of an obvious lie like “Diversity is our strength,” we should just honestly say “Diversity destroys.”

  82. baythoven says:

    Notice the program for which Hispanics are most overrepresented: TANF (“welfare.”)
    They are a whopping 37.8% of recipients. (Blacks 28.9%, Whites 27.2%).
    Now consider the statistical statement that “over 85 percent of TANF recipients are single or divorced, and only 13 percent are married.”
    This is massive fraud staring us in the face, for Hispanic women with children by and large are married and remain so.

  83. Augustus says:

    I would never allow my children to go to school where they aren’t safe. They would not be safe amongst racist blacks. When younger, I worked a lot of overtime so they could be in a better school district. There were 4 high schools in the community. The best school was made open enrollment. That meant any student in town who had transportation could leave the schools that the state test scores listed as failing, and go to the best school, as long as they could get there. That school (10% hispanic, 10% black, 80 white) was flooded with black students. Within 5 years that school was also on the failing list.

    As to money spent, I was in high school when government took over money from local state funding. The money got sent to DC, and a bureacracy was created to “equalize” the school districts by doling it back out to see poor districts got their “fair share.” Black communities were all for that equalizing of money and glad as hell to receive all those white dollars. Trayvon was going to read at the appropriate grade level. Within a year, test scores went down all over America. 30 years later test scores were still down, and not only couldn’t Trayvon read, but his younger brother Tevarous couldn’t read either. When Bill Clinton was president it required a junior college degree for students to test at an equal average to an average high school senior in 1963. Clinton, claiming to be the 1st black President campaigned on a promise to raise scores. He delivered! They made the tests easier. So much for that big DC Monopoly “equalizing” districts, and blacks having yet another of their problems solved by Whitey’s money.

    Since you want education changed again to help blacks, what do you suggest, and how much will it cost YT? I know blacks will pay to solve their problem. They never do.

  84. @Showmethereal

    the dirty secret any drug trafficker will tell you from the 70′ and 80’s is that middle and upper class whites kept the heroin and cocaine business thriving

    Just how many drug traffickers do you know?

    The claim is self-evidently false.  Where were the overdoses?  Where were the fatalities?  Where was the falling life expectancy?  It didn’t exist then.  You had a few in a “drug subculture” like rock and blues people, but the vast bulk of the population not only didn’t use opiates, they had no idea how to get them.  Wall Street allegedly ran on cocaine, not heroin.

    When G.W. Bush’s daughter got busted for possession, it was for alcohol; Jeb’s, for forging a prescription for Xanax.  Not heroin.

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  85. @Showmethereal

    Spending money is a rubbish example. Would you let your child go to school in a predominantly black or hispanic school district?? NO! Because deep down you know the inequity of the system.

    Because anyone who has eyes to see knows that putting White children in a room with a bunch of violent, stupid savages whose “education” level lags their own by an average of 4 years is not merely a waste of their educational potential, it is a threat to their health and life.  It is child abuse.

    You can put Whites and blacks through the SAME system and you will get radically different results almost every time.  There’s no “inequity” there.  There’s different and incompatible genetics.  No one is to blame, except the egalitarians who have “RACISM” printed across their glasses and literally cannot see any other explanation.  That appears to describe you.

    • Agree: Oil 'n Water, Augustus
  86. @Showmethereal

    Did you just admit that blacks cannot function in a normal, white society?

  87. @Showmethereal

    No white person with any sense at all would want their children to go to a predominantly black school or even one that is half black. The two MAIN reasons are 1. the levels of violence and 2. the anti-education mentality of the majority of the black students. Both create an atmosphere/environment that is highly disruptive, unsafe and damaging to the children of whites. As is, I’ve read too many stories where blacks were given state of the art schools and received funding in excess of those received by white students in suburban schools and yet, the grades and performance of the students were still abysmal. Funding isn’t the problem- it’s the low quality of the students that is the problem.

    Yes, I attended a Jr. High school that was about 50% black and everything I mentioned above (#1 & 2) was precisely what I witnessed first hand for a couple of years. Thanks be to God that I escaped that environment and was able to attend schools that had very few blacks all through high school. For that, I will be eternally grateful. On that note, take your victimhood mentality and your never-ending cry of “whitey done done us wrong” and shove it. Black culture/mentality is responsible for black failure. Sitting on your ass wailing and blaming others for it will not do you any good or make you or anyone else successful.

    I’ve no experience with predominantly Hispanic schools so I’ll leave that up to someone else to comment on that.

  88. @Showmethereal

    What they should do is support the economic growth of Africa and Latin America.

    We have too many minorities on the teat in this country alone…and your advice is to support them in other countries as well?
    And how do believe this support – unlike all of the aid this country has already given – should be administered?
    What you propose seems to be just another shakedown, but this time on a global scale.
    How many times have White majority countries lent support, and how often has this support accomplished anything?
    I’ll tell you what blacks and other minorities should do: Stay in their own countries and do the heavy lifting to convert them from dung heaps into civilized societies – societies in the manner that Whites built in America. And if they’re not willing to work toward long term goals, then don’t come here and bitch about the White man and his oppression while at the same time enjoying all of the benefits.

    Would you let your child go to school in a predominantly black or hispanic school district?? NO! Because deep down you know the inequity of the system.

    Your question is valid. Your conclusion is pure bs.
    What inequity are you talking about?
    Do you mean the inequity of being around a bunch of unruly, rude, physically and verbally abusive black kids? Black kids who attack not only students but teachers, as well? Black kids who think learning is “acting White?”
    A small fortune has been spent in my city alone on counselors and behavioral specialists (at $1000/day) just to address these problems. With questionable results.
    Or maybe the facilities are unequal? A few years back, I taught adult ed classes in a brand new school attended mainly by minorities. The classrooms were huge, well lit and clean, with cable tv in each room and plenty of competent staff.
    So, please specifically name the inequities that you believe exist.

  89. @Not Woke--Not Broke

    Doesn’t surprise me in the least that they would essentially take over and steal a church. Give them an inch and they’ll take a mile. As is, I’ve known blacks who openly talked about wanting to be “block busters” and how they wanted to move into white neighborhoods and take them over so they could have it all for themselves after chasing the whites out. The idea seemed to delight them to no end. The church story is just more of the same albeit on a smaller scale. I’ve also seen the same sort of thing at companies where a black gets hired as a manager and, suddenly, no one gets hired but blacks and the black employees begin doing everything they can to drive the white employees out so they can be replaced by even more blacks. Lots of overt hostility, passive aggressive behaviors, false accusations and so on against whites to make the environment so miserable that they leave for other jobs. They’re galactic class arseholes and racist to the bone.

    • Agree: By-tor
  90. Showmethereal————-Spending 10 times more per Black pupil won’t help.Black teachers,Black principals,Black superintendants,Black education board members,and Black mayors don’t improve objective test scores.If you see a dramatic increase in Black test scores it’s either wide spread cheating( Atlanta) or you have guys in white coats injecting the students with something interesting.

  91. Anonymous[435] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    What’s 6.5% but also 50%?

    You meant but also 54%.

  92. KenH says:
    @Not Woke--Not Broke

    Statistics are not needed.Just cut off all welfare,and then see who hollers.

    When we see rioting and unrest in all black cities then we’ll know who relies on welfare the most.

    Blacks speak out of both sides of this issue. When it suits them they like to point out that more whites are on certain welfare programs (only true in about two cases per the info in the article) then scream like banshees and claim racism and genocide against blacks when there’s talks of cutting back welfare programs.

  93. KenH says:
    @obwandiyag

    Notice closely. No numbers, no raw numbers in the article.

    I think you need some edification. The total or “raw” number of recipients for each welfare category are above each statistical breakdown, so all you need to do is multiply the percentage of any given race by the total number of recipients to arrive at the absolute number for that race.

    Take public housing. Blacks comprise 42% of public housing/section 8 recipients so 42% is .42 x 1 million = 420,000. The white rate is 30% or .30 x 1 million = 300K. So blacks lead the pack in both absolute numbers and in the per capita rate.

    For Medicaid whites might make up the largest single group of recipients but are actually a minority overall since all other groups combined comprise 59%. There are 30,340,000 whites receiving Medicaid while 43,660,000 non-whites are receiving it, so again in absolute numbers more non-whites than whites are the beneficiaries with blacks roughly 3.3 times more likely than whites to be receiving Medicaid assistance.

    The force doesn’t appear to be with you on this one, Obwan.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  94. @Oil 'n Water

    Oil ‘n Water———Aid to Africa or Haiti is insane. 95% of the aid is stolen by the ruling kleptocracy in the targeted country.That is actually a positive.Better the dollars be spent on Bentleys and palaces than providing more calories to produce a new bumper crop of Africans.

  95. These numbers are pretty meaningless since many hispanics on welfare are classified as whites by the govt.

  96. @Not Woke--Not Broke

    “If you see a dramatic increase in Black test scores it’s either wide spread cheating( Atlanta) or you have guys in white coats injecting the students with something interesting.”

    Or an increase in affirmative action grading. AA grading is everywhere in k-12 plus college.

  97. @Mr. Rational

    You can go visit prisons and talk to drug traffickers doing 30 years and up. Even better talk to the ones older than who can tell you about all the GI’s who were hooked on amphetamines and then heroin. Nicely hidden away from media view.
    Or like the Italian and Irish gangsters who always swore against drugs and called blacks animals meanwhile half of them sniffed coke and some of them even used heroin.
    Kind of reminds me of all the white suburban men who would go to the ghetto and buy drugs for their “weekend high” and patronize ghetto prostitute s and then go back to their picket fence like everything was ok.
    And just for the record – I did see these things because my family came here with nothing of substance. So of course we lived in what you call the ghetto. Yet all of my siblings graduated college. My parents didnt come here with college education either and got it too. And we took oit loans – we didnt get financial aid because my parents had that bad Caribbean habit of wanting to work multiple jobs.

  98. @Not Woke--Not Broke

    Take a black kid and put him in all white schools amd they do better. Put a white kid in an all black school in a poor district and he gets “dumber”. If Obama grew up in a poor black neighborhood he most likely never makes it to Harvard. But he grew up in predominantly white schools far from the ghetto where he had access to alll he needed. If someone of Bush 2 or Trumps intelligencs goes to school in the ghetto they get nowhere in life. And no – I didnt vote for Obama – I am talking the facts of life. Deep down you know it. The scales are not level at all in this society and with many people like you walking around they wont be. I have seen both sides of the fence. Racists dont intimidate me. I can hold my own talking on the street corner or addressing executives at a Fortune 500 company. Seen both sides of this country’s economic divide.

  99. @Oil 'n Water

    I said support economic developmemt not give welfare. But reading the rest of your comment shows your aptitude for critical thinking. No need to even respond to the rest. Feel free to remain a white supremacist. You remind of a guy who came to do a presentation and we were talking about urban issues. He remarked how even though his neighborhood had changed from majority white to a firmly mixed race neighborhood with Latinos and blacks “my neighborhood is still nice”. He didnt even get what he said until he saw other people’s body language. So i helped him clean up by explaining it is simply because the income needed to pruchase homes in his neighborhood means that whatever race someone that moves in is – they most likely have the mindset to protect their middle class investment. He then began to vigorously agree. At least he got embarassed. So their is hopemfor him. I realize how ingrained white supremacy is in so many people’s minds that it doesn’t upset me. Just like the black Americans born to people who had it ingrained in them that they were nothing and will never be anything because they are inferior will think doing school work is “acting white”. I am glad I am from an immigrant family and wasnt infected with that disease. I am one less statistic for you to harp on. “Sorry”.

    • Replies: @Oil 'n Water
    , @Augustus
  100. @Showmethereal

    Take a black kid and put him in all white schools amd they do better.

    Did you just say that black schools are horrible learning environments?

    What is wrong with blacks, that they can’t learn while sitting next to other blacks?

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  101. @Showmethereal

    The scales are not level at all in this society and with many people like you walking around they wont be.

    On every known standardized test, be it verbal, non-verbal, visual, scores always come out the same: Asians score highest, then Whites, then hispanics, then blacks.

    But no, by your reasoning, the problem is the environment and it’s Whites out to keep blacks down. If only blacks had an optimum environment, they would perform, in general, at the level of Asians and Whites.

    Funny how such an environment doesn’t exist in any country in the world.

    There is nothing wrong with the scales, only people such as yourself who deny facts and rely on subjective and self-serving answers. This is why racial strife exists.

    I honestly wish it were only a case of unfairness that causes our differences.

  102. @Showmethereal

    Showmethereal———–The Man,i.e. the White man is not keeping the Black man down.Indeed Blacks benefit enormously from Affirmative Action quotas and income transfers from White taxpayers such as Snap benefits,Section 8 housing.Blacks are no longer slaves.I classify them as pets.Personally,i prefer a dog.

    • Replies: @Augustus
  103. @Showmethereal

    “Welfare” is your term, not mine.

    Convenient how you did not answer the two questions:

    And how do believe this support – unlike all of the aid this country has already given – should be administered?

    And:

    So, please specifically name the inequities that you believe exist.

    Or are these the questions you dismissed as “having no need to respond to?”

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  104. Augustus says:
    @Showmethereal

    You’re right. Few students get a decent education in a ghetto school. So why don’t black people do something about that? As race realists we’re all sick of black peoples’ excuses. Blaming YT doesn’t work. It may get more money, but what are black administrators doing with it? Do you EVER hold blacks responsible, or just point fingers at white people to extort more money? The 60 years of sniveling has fatigued us.

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  105. Augustus says:
    @Not Woke--Not Broke

    You mean pets like dogs?

    Dogs are more appreciative and much less apt to bite the hands that feed them. Dogs raise their young too. They don’t abandon them.

    • Replies: @Not Woke--Not Broke
  106. Augustus says:
    @Showmethereal

    OMG! Still blaming whites, as you show at the end of your comments.

  107. @KenH

    None of these “numbers” you cite are in the article per se, nor are they even adumbrated, so you are wrong about that. But let’s just deal with your contentions here.

    A. A number is not a “rate.” That’s my whole point, and your slip of the fingers reveals a freudian slip of the mind: you don’t understand the difference.
    B. According to your numbers, blacks and whites are the minority of people in public housing. Wonder who the others are? Why aren’t they the ones getting the big heat? I’ll tell you why. Because the truth is boring and complex and doesn’t work. Race-baiting does, and this article does it in very classic style. In other words, it sounds just like something some drunken old Southron sheriff would point out in a bar in the 1960s. I just wish the tools of the oligarchs could come up with a couple new talking points. These old ones are so boring and so easily shredded.
    C. A half million in public housing is nothing. The country is 400 million at least. That’s 1/800. Doesn’t matter who lives in it. It is nothing, if you know something about money. Factor the cost of public housing into a trillion dollars and get back to me when you see something significant. Mountain out of a molehill–otherwise known as “lying with statistics.”
    D. Do the “public housing” figures include all the military living in “public housing.” Somehow I have a feeling the cost of military housing dwarfs everything, just like the cost of military everything dwarfs everything. But neither this article, nor you, talk anything about the military–which is where ALL the money goes, in case you were wondering.
    D. You didn’t mention what most people mean by “welfare” at all. Typical lying by slanting.
    E. Only 70-odd million receive Medicaid? Peanuts. And Medicaid is part of Obamacare anyway. So, more slanting, because neither you nor the genius statistician writer of this “article” mentioned that, and the Obamacare tie-in makes a big difference.

    OK. So, you do give numbers and “rates.” Unlike the article. Good. (Although, again, you don’t include, nor does the article include dollars and cents. If this “problem” is so egregious, it must cost a whole shitload of money, or else it isn’t a problem. And it isn’t. Because none of this “welfare,” including the many kinds you don’t mention, costs anywhere near the shitloads of money you imply it does–And anyhow, whether it does or not, neither you nor the article even mention the issue of dollars and cents one way or another, and so you are . . . repeat it with me, now: “Lying with Statistics 101.”)

    But let’s stipulate. OK, after all, you do give numbers as well as rates.

    And then you omit context. Way #3 of “Lying with Statistics 101.”

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    , @KenH
  108. @obwandiyag

    D. Do the “public housing” figures include all the military living in “public housing.”
    Why not just say the military is on welfare , since that money comes from the government as well?

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  109. loren says:
    @Showmethereal

    you wanna know about BHO?
    Listen to Ann Barnhardt if her talks are still on jootube.

    He was funded from early on. His ‘grades’ didnt matter.
    she says he is shia? muslim and has been groomed.
    if someone was schooled in israel and went to an orthodox school, would you doubt teir religion?
    BHO went to a muslim school in indonesia, yes?

  110. David says:
    @Hail

    It’s worse. I said it three times! I’m just not as idea-rich as some people.

    But I’ll never do it again.

  111. @Tony Schnee

    By jove, he’s got it! The man has got it! Alert the media!

  112. @Mr. Rational

    You either seriously lack reading comprehension or you are hopelessly racist. I am glad I found your group. Further proof you cant legislate evil out of peoples hearts…

  113. @Augustus

    If you wanted to comprehend you would understand why American born blacks dont do anything about it. Immigrant blacks very much do. The numbers prove it. In fact if you look at many accomplished blacks in the US many of them are born to immigrants. Colin Powell is a perfect example. Their mindsets are different from the ones brought here directly on slave ships. But the embedded thoughts of hatred of blacks and white supremacy cant allow you to comprehend the scenarios I laid out. Not surprising. I have seen your kind before. I had to embarass a few in life. You remind of a clown restaurant owner who thought I had a job at the post office as if thats all a black male could achieve. It is almost comical. As I said I will put my own family against any 1st generation white immigrants. I am not at all intimidated.

    • Troll: Oil 'n Water, Augustus
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  114. @Oil 'n Water

    You obviously cant read your own comments.. You complained about “minorities on the teat” as to why the US couldnt support economic development. But I realize you dont even know the difference. But it was a rhetorical comment because I know your racist heart would never support such. Funny though you should tell Pence and Pompeo to stop complaining about China investing so heavily in Africa. Growth rates in quite a few countries out there are growing very healthily now. Its not costing you a dollar either. Some African nations are so confidemt now they are calling for the “year of return for the diaspora” . So whatyou should do is tell Pence and Pompeo to encourage China to do even more in Africa because in another 10 years you might get your wish and blacks might start returning. Same with the Caribbean too. You can throw a party! Start writing that letter to Washington now!

    • Troll: Augustus
  115. @Showmethereal

    You either seriously lack reading comprehension or you are hopelessly racist.

    YOU are the one who claimed that black kids learn better in White schools.  What is wrong with schools full of blacks, that black kids don’t learn as well there?  Does it have anything to do with the Magic Dirt that whites dig up and take with them when they commit White Flight?

    BTW, your Really Ancient Communist Infiltrated Shaming Term doesn’t work here.

  116. @Showmethereal

    If you wanted to comprehend you would understand why American born blacks dont do anything about it.

    So you’re saying they’re capable, but (for reasons you will not detail—or is that “don’t dare to mention because you’ll be branded an Uncle Tom”?) they simply won’t?  It’s voluntary, but you won’t hold them accountable… or is it “the miasma of the R-word” that works like pins in a voodoo doll?

    I don’t expect you to actually answer questions, but it’s fun watching you squirm.

  117. @Showmethereal

    You are absolutely correct about two assertions: #1 I certainly do wish Africans had never been removed from their homeland, and yes I would like to see them return, and #2 I am a racist, race realist, and separatist, and do not consider that a negative, nor an “evil,” but a necessary condition of survival in today’s world. The real evil is people, black or White, who enable Black violence and crime, by minimizing it, covering it up or blaming Whites.
    As far as Chinese/Russian involvement in Africa, I seriously doubt that any strides for black Africans will take place as a direct result. People with an average IQ of 70 are not going to become successful big league farmers, entreprenuers or nuclear physicists. It just doesn’t work that way. At best, the land and resources will be exploited by outside countries, and most of the natives will not be much better off than before. Besides, the Chinese and Russians are not noted for humanitarian concerns – they’re not going to waste much social capital on fruitless efforts to improve the lot of low functioning Africans. If you believe otherwise, I have a flying pyramid to sell you, that was only driven by a little old African lady…well, I’m sure you know the rest.
    And, yes, US aid to Africa has been a useless endeavor, and I believe it should be ended.
    We’re not only dealing with low intelligence, but also, deep character issues.
    An excerpt from a 2017 report from The Hill:
    …corruption is the principal cause of poor governance and state failure in Africa. According to the African Union, an “estimate(d) 25 percent of the continent’s GDP (nearly 150 billion dollars) is lost due to corruption.” In 2013, Global Financial Integrity reported between $1.2 trillion and $1.3 trillion has left Africa in illicit financial flows between 1980 and 2009”, roughly equal to Africa’s gross domestic product for 2014.
    https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/foreign-policy/323198-trumps-suspicion-of-foreign-aid-to-africa-is-right-on-the

    And you, sir, are cherry picking. So I will ask again:

    “So, please specifically name the inequities (toward blacks in the U.S.) that you believe exist.”

    • Replies: @Female in FL
  118. @Showmethereal

    I thought that was already proven in Mandela’s South Africa…

    • Agree: Oil 'n Water
  119. @Showmethereal

    If you’re expecting a ‘renaissance’ in Africa or the islands, I would wonder at the rest of your statements.

    You sound like a proud black man with something to actually be proud of. But positivity will only get you so far. I’m old enough to have watched the decline and fall of Newark and many other great cities in N.J. to the influx of blacks. Each had spoke of their ‘renaissance’ for forty years or more.
    However, it can’t and won’t happen for the same reason that Africa and the islands will never be more than they were prior to colonialism. The predominance of blacks.
    Your ability to succeed in a white society is to be commended. Your ability to succeed in a black society would not have happened because there are none and never have been.
    The rest of what you say sounds like flying pyramid dreams.

  120. @Showmethereal

    Showmethereal——–Take a Black student and put him in a White school and he does better? Take a White student and put him in a Black school and he gets dumber.———-Sounds like everybody loses IQ points when surrounded by Blackness.HHhmmmm, yeah,i can believe that.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  121. @Augustus

    Augustus———–I didn’t say that Blacks were particularly desirable pets,but pets they do be. As Fred,of the Fredoneverything blog stated, “Blacks have been in custodial care since the 1960s”. The majority of American Blacks simply can’t function in a modern,technological society.Thus the need to to warehouse them in public schools,public housing,Section 8, and prisons.Some of the brighter ones are given Affirmative Action jobs and “positions” to feed an equality illusion. That illusion is the Black equivalent of the Truman Show.

    • Replies: @Augustus
  122. @Oil 'n Water

    I know I said I was out of here, but your post deserves attention.
    Having donated to this site and treated the way I’ve been treated, it disgusts me to see this showme get so much air time.

  123. Augustus says:
    @Not Woke--Not Broke

    Fred is a smart guy, and custodial care is a nice way of saying it. I used to call it warehousing.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  124. @Augustus

    If they require custodial care, it should be conducted in Africa with strong encouragement to remain there.

    What we could have done to the crime rate and a host of other things had we done this starting after the first race riots of the 60’s….

  125. KenH says:
    @obwandiyag

    You responded with the usual afrocentrist pretzel logic and baseless claims. The numbers speak for themselves and don’t require context and if you disagree your response didn’t provide any.

    Because none of this “welfare,” including the many kinds you don’t mention

    Like what? Before you say corporate welfare keep in mind that blacks and non-whites benefit in the form of AA jobs that are required for government contracting and requirement to use minority and women owned businesses. Blacks, women and non-whites also benefit from SBA loans, so the “other welfare” cuts both ways.

    All the money shakedowns of corporate entities by black supremacists like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackass is another form of “other welfare” that YOU fail to mention.

  126. Herzl says:

    The issue with social service benefits has all to do with what is being supported. If they are being used to enhance human capital, it is one thing. But to subsidize crime and discord? That is the problem with the single mother recipient. Single mother’s raise criminals and perverts. How else can children that see ‘mommy’ go from man to man be expected to grow up? The Western assumption that mothers are alturistic beings with their children’s welfare in mind fails miserably in the Black ‘Community’, if we can call it that. We have seen the effects of welfare on blacks, the nuclear family unit is non-existent today. Crime is rampant and there is not end in sight, as the MSM glorifies weak males and ‘strong’ women that raise their sons to be homosexuals and/or criminals. I submit that these women hate their children, especially the boys, and do their best to destroy them emotionally as well as intellectually. A world run be weaklings requires the strong to be hobbled. When we see
    matriarchies we must expect that the males are the geldings of comic books and other warped fantasies. It’s no coincidence that the authors of comics, as well as social justice programs are of a certain tribe. One that feels Alpha males are an existential threat.

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