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Previously on SBPDL: A Black Mob Nearly Lynched (Yes, Lynched) Steven Utash, a 54-Year-Old White Tree Trimmer, in 83 Percent Black Detroit

What’s life like in 83 percent black Detroit for a white person? Even for a white man just passing through? [Video shows Berkley man beaten to death after early morning car crash on Detroit’s west side, Fox 2 Detroit, July 22, 2019]:

DETROIT (FOX 2) – A 24-year-old man from Berkley was brutally beaten to death after a seemingly minor car crash on Detroit’s west side early Monday morning. The crash and beating were caught on surveillance video from a nearby gas station.

Tyler Wingate is remembered for his contagious smile, good spirit, and loving character. His friends said that he was known for – before his life was violently taken early Monday morning.

Police haven’t been able to say what caused the crash but say Tyler was driving a 2011 Buick Regal when he collided with a 2007 Chevy Impala.

Surveillance video from a nearby gas station showed the unidentified driver walk up to Tyler and punch him in the face. Several witnesses standing nearby watched Tyler drop to the ground.

Much of the video is too graphic to show, but, at one point, Tyler tried to get up but the punches and kicks continued.

A witness was able to pull the man off of Tyler, and the man even appeared to try to swing at that witness. Then everyone but Tyler walked away as they left him to die.

“It’s terrible. It’s terrible. That could be anybody’s family member. You don’t want that to happen to anyone,” witness Juan Williams said. “It’s unfortunate, very unfortunate. No one wants to see a life lost.”

Tyler’s friends said the young man came from a large, loving family and befriended and helped everyone he could. They said he moved to Detroit because he believed in the city and knew it would continue to rise.

A GoFundMe has been started in Tyler’s name. It raised almost $7,000 in 3 hours.

Now, friends say the entire city of Berkley is heartbroken as Detroit Police search for the driver. He’s described as a tall black man with a skinny build. They’re unsure if he knew Tyler before the crash

Detroit Police are asking anyone with information to call them or CrimeStoppers at 1-800-SPEAK-UP.

Could you even imagine, for just a second, the absolute racial hysteria the corporate media would be pushing if in an 83 percent white city a black motorist was beaten to death by a white male, and then left for dead as multiple white people watched and did nothing?

The entire world would come to a screeching halt to cover this story, and it would be a catalyst for shaming all white people for the horrific crime.

As it is, would you have even read about this story were it not for Unz.com?

Tyler thought he could help make 83 percent black Detroit a better place, but western civilization long ago retreated from the metropolis once known as The Paris of the West.

Rest in peace, Tyler.

 
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  1. They said he moved to Detroit because he believed in the city and knew it would continue to rise. No point in describing the absurd idiocy of that statement. Live and learn or be stupid and die.

    • Agree: AceDeuce, anon19
  2. Also on Monday In Detroit, Nancy Pelosi attended some NAACP meeting to grovel and kiss more black ass as she decried Trump’s recent remarks as racist. I wonder if she sees any racism in Tyler Wingate’s brief appearance in Detroit’s news today.

    • Replies: @Moi
  3. As PK stated in the post on Judge Kaelin:

    Expect this type of insanity to only spread…>/blockquote>

    The slightest provocation serves as justification to unleash their rage.

    RIP

    • Replies: @sally
    , @Char Char Binks
  4. I can’t help but wonder how differently how many of these encounters would have turned out had the White person been carrying a firearm.

    It sickens me to see White folks snuffed out in the prime of life.

  5. Additionally…..the cucked family would like to make it known that they unconditionally forgive the fine upstanding negro as they have determined that Tyler was completely at fault for this accident and was tried convicted and the punishment carried out in a swift fashion. In lei of flowers they request that contributions be made to the local WATS (We’re All The Same) School to further enrich the lives of people like Tyler and his assailant and realize that they can live together in peace and harmony.

  6. homer says:

    Tyler was a fool who was ignorant of the hazards of moving to a majority non-white city.If he had watched any of the hundreds of videos available of incidents very similar to his own he would have known not to move there.He died because he and his friends and family members didn’t care enough to educate themselves to reality.Now the video of his beating can be added to the hundreds already on line.Maybe the next Tyler will not make the same mistake.It was totally preventable.Ignorance is a choice.If anybody wants links to the library of videos ,just ask.

  7. HT says:

    Anyone in that environment who isn’t armed and trained is putting themselves in extreme danger.

  8. If i only had a dollar for every delusional white idiot in America.

  9. Dave453 says:

    I hate to speak ill of the dead. But gd, move TO detroit?!?! How braindead do you have to be?
    I suppose we can only hope this might pry the eyes of some of his friends and family.

    • Replies: @Charon
  10. D-FENS says:

    When I lived outside of Columbia SC or really any unfamiliar place, I plan my route to avoid negro infested areas even if it takes me several mikes out of my way.

  11. Loren says:

    was he a leftist? which berkley? michigan or california?

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
    , @Alden
  12. anarchyst says:

    Blacks WERE a problem in 1960s and beyond Detroit.
    I was able to keep up my property with no difficulty, painting the house (outside) on a regular basis, mowing the lawn and keeping the shrubbery trimmed-normal maintenance for any homeowner.
    Contrast my maintenance efforts and results with my black “neighbors” who did not keep up their property. You see, in the 1970s HUD had “special programs” to move blacks into single-family housing, without requiring these blacks to have any “skin in the game”.
    Of course, being white, I did not qualify for any of these programs.
    The liberal “urban studies” folks at Wayne State University always made excuses for blacks and their inability and lack of “upkeep” (normal everyday maintenance) on their homes. Their main excuse was that “the homes were old”…
    On almost every block, whites (mostly elderly Polish) who could not afford to move STILL kept up their homes–freshly cut grass, well-maintained exteriors, etc. despite their homes being just as “old” as those owned by blacks. No matter where you went in Detroit, one could always tell where whites lived. Neatly manicured lawns and well-kept-up houses were the norm.
    I finally left Detroit after a number of burglaries and little or no police response. The police KNEW who the criminals were but did nothing about it. You see, blacks were “oppressed” and were “untouchable”.
    Another situation was the “code enforcement” harassment that us whites endured. We always used the city-supplied trash containers (one for every two residences). Our black “neighbors” were too lazy to put their trash in the containers, strewing their trash throughout the alleys. Guess who got repeatedly ticketed for “improperly disposed of trash”? It wasn’t the blacks who improperly disposed of their trash–it was us whites. It was as if they (the black-run city government) wanted us to move…
    No, the old liberal excuses that poverty was instrumental in the destruction of Detroit is totally false.
    All one has to do was ask the party (liquor) store owners why they put up with the likes of blacks. The Detroit “ghetto” was (and is still) quite a “gold mine” for liquor, lottery tickets and junk food.
    I grew up in Detroit and personally witnessed the marginalization of whites along with the destruction by blacks.
    It’s black CULTURE, not “poverty”.

  13. anon19 says:

    Just judging from the Jewish controlled mainstream media’s bullshit “coverage” of the Covington Catholic kids, our “media” would be insane if the races had been reversed. Instead i have to go to internet sites like this to EVEN HEAR ABOUT THIS SHIT!

    Too bad he didn’t have a gun. At least he would be alive.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  14. Prophet says: • Website

    This is what happens to children of Liberal White parents, they are naive and think they can help the helpless. These Wealthy Liberals from Berkley don’t live in the real world.

    • Replies: @Camelot
    , @Sick 'n Tired
  15. eah says:

    Then everyone but Tyler walked away as they left him to die.

    And further info on/a description of these people?

    Could you even imagine, for just a second, the absolute racial hysteria the corporate media would be pushing…

    Not only that, if you’re white and still watch local television news (as suggested it is very unlikely this will make national news), often you have to watch a token black newsperson tell you about it.

    Police name suspect in Berkley man deadly beating after Detroit car accident

    • Replies: @Alfred
    , @David In TN
  16. anon[116] • Disclaimer says:

    Warn your kids – stay away from blacks. 24 year olds are idealistic and inexperienced. You have to warn them, teach them, watch out for your kids, even in their twenties. Stay away from blacks.
    Now that there is no law enforcement controlling blacks in these cities they will only get worse.

  17. I’m sorry but anyone who moves into an 83% black city and believes it’s going “rise” and they’re going to help “make it better” is living in a delusional dream world. Additionally, having no weapons or means of protecting oneself from the tender mercies of violent, rampaging feral groids….well, that falls into the category of dumber than a box of rocks. Either that or they’re so brainwashed with paint job theory that all common sense and reason has been thrown out the window long ago.

    I’ll just chalk this one up as an accidental suicide. Sort of like people who burn charcoal indoors during winter for heat or crank up a generator indoors and wind up dead from carbon monoxide poisoning.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Rocko
    , @Bettrina
  18. “Judge Tracie Hunter.” Type those words into a search engine.

    A little levity for your day. 🙂

  19. unit472 says:

    Search for the driver? Did he drive off? Did no one not get the tag number? Lemme guess it was a ‘borrowed’ car with stolen plates or some other negro work around to stay on the road when you don’t have a car, insurance or driver’s license.

    If we are going to have traffic cops then getting the scum off the highways ought to be their priority not busting people for ‘failing to come to a complete stop’ at stop sign or going 6 mph over a speed limit set 50 years ago. Police have license plate scanners now. They take pictures of every plate they scan. If the plate and the car don’t match or the registered owners license is revoked or suspended stop the car and find out what is going on. My bet is the man who beat this motorist to death had no right to be driving that or anyother car.

    • Replies: @gp
  20. Rocko says:
    @Non PC Infidel

    This is why the Dems want gun control and confiscation so much. No guns removes any ability to defend yourself against this onslaught.

    It is not safe to allow any of them around you. Ever.

    • Agree: brandybranch
  21. Let’s see, on my insurance card it says: In the Event of an Accident:

    Notify the police, gather information of parties involved, don’t discuss the accident or admit fault, contact your agent. They should add the following to reflect the BRA reality we live in:

    If you have an accident with a negro, arm yourself, and be prepared to fight for your life.

    • Agree: Gunga Din
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  22. Augustus says:
    @Bob Smith of Suburbia

    Another black person seeking to be judged a victim on the basis of her skin, than being judged by her character.

    MLK had these people backward.

  23. Annnnd,wait for it….”They said he moved to Detroit because he believed in the city and knew it would continue to rise.” Yes how mighty White of him.

    • Replies: @Bettrina
  24. @anarchyst

    I couldn’t agree with you more.
    I’m sorry about this young man – he was probably as idealistic as I once was.

  25. Remember the rules in case you get in accident at 2am in Detroit or any similar negroid infected areas:
    1. Never get out of the car
    2. Keep your windows up, doors locked
    3, call 911 and Mention that you think someone has gun;
    4. carry a concealed weapon under your driver’s seat, preferably 9mm handgun with hollow point bullets full clip ready to go;
    5. Never let your guard down, avoid confronting negroids if possible
    5. Avoid negroid areas in the first place and always be aware of your surroundings

  26. The animals walked away and left him to die?No one called an ambulance or tried to help in any way- typical black behavior.
    He wanted to help Detroit? That’s insane. God rest his soul.Another war causality

  27. Anonymous[104] • Disclaimer says:

    For the trolls who regularly post the same trite boilerplate that “whites commit horrific crimes like these too and you never hear about them either”, I must insist that no, they absolutely do not and if they ever did you would definitely hear about them. PK is absolutely right in saying that “the entire world would come to a screeching halt to cover this story” if the races were reversed. If a white were to commit a horrific act of “random” (aka, racially motivated) violence, it would instantly become national, if not international, news. That’s why every “hate crime” hoax we hear about is a national story for at least a few days before ultimately getting disproven. And why would a story of a white hate crime go international while the same story with the races reversed is hidden? Because from the times of the Nazis and Soviets, other countries have loved to depict/embellish the horrific atrocities white Americans have committed against Native Americans and blacks in order to convince their populaces that they are righteous in comparison.

    This story would be bigger than Rodney King in that the victim truly was innocent and the perpetrators had absolutely no right to intercede with violence. Also, the media’s desire to play up a racist angle in any and every story in the Trump era is at an all time high. If the races were reversed, you would hear this story discussed countless times a day every day up until Michelle Obama is ultimately elected president in 2020. As it stands, no one outside family members, close friends, and a few dozen people on the internet will ever hear of, much less believe, this incident taking place.

  28. This was 1000% unavoidable. Naive kid lost his life because he was not a race realist. Rule #1, avoid the groid, rule #2, read rule #1.
    Paul, I seem to remember a white kid who had a negro pal. The negro convinced the white kid to drive to a seedy area of Detroit. The negro was in the process of becoming a gang member. He, along with additional negroes, beat this white kid to a pulp, left him for dead. The white kid did survive and could not believe what his friend did to him.
    Regarding the blonde Ole Miss who is missing, my gut feeling is a negro is involved.

  29. @Bob Smith of Suburbia

    Hunter was convicted of mishandling a confidential document in 2014. She has been free since then because she has been appealing.
    After Dinkelacker ordered authorities to take her to jail, Hunter appeared to go limp as she stood from her seat, and a deputy dragged her out of the courtroom.
    “She passed out,” someone yelled, but Hunter appeared to be conscious. She looked around and flicked her fingers as the deputy dragged her from the courtroom.
    “This city is going to burn,” someone shouted. .. I remember those same words from a black politician quoted in PK’s book “Escape from Detroit”. Yes .. just burn it down… The only solution to solve all of the blacks problems. Burn it down and screech “racism made me do it”. Then they move to another area and rinse and repeat.

    • Agree: Oil 'n Water
  30. Anonymous[104] • Disclaimer says:

    “It’s terrible. It’s terrible. That could be anybody’s family member. You don’t want that to happen to anyone,” witness Juan Williams said. “It’s unfortunate, very unfortunate. No one wants to see a life lost.”

    The subtext of the above statement being, “No one, however, minds seeing a white boy beaten to within an inch of his life.”

  31. OT:
    A Texas grandmother fell three years ago. Her daughter let her decay on the floor, police say.

    Yes.. they ae just like us. No they are not!!. They are just like Africans.. Choosing to live in filth and decay. I suppose the smell of frying chicken and baking sweet potao pie over powered the stench of rotting flesh. Mmmm.. Delicious.. sorry … I meant Delissa!!!
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/07/14/texas-woman-delissa-crayton-lived-with-mother-dead-body-police/1730014001/

  32. It’s beyond frustrating, seeing people who have a productive future murdered by those who do not.

  33. Anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m black and he was my Hs friend is a shame y’all racist fucks see this as the only cause

  34. At #24 Anonymous – Well Mr. Black, if you were a true Hi Skool friend of the deceased, you should have Skool’ed him about the danger of being anywhere around your Bro’s. You should have told him “The others my color aren’t safe like me… avoid or be on guard”, but you didn’t.

  35. Camelot says:
    @Prophet

    Fuck you prophet. He actually lived and worked in the city..

    • Replies: @Realist
  36. Bettrina says:
    @Mary White

    Exactly Mary White !! And we’re not rich here in Berkley like that asshole said up above !
    Maybe it’s because we work our asses off to get to what we want & to where we are .
    POS racist !

  37. Bettrina says:
    @Anonymous

    GOD BLESS TYLER WINGATE & HIS FAMILY !
    THIS WAS A VERY LOVING YOUNG MAN WHO I HAD THE PLEASURE TO MEET !!

  38. Bettrina says:
    @DINDUNUFFINS,esquire

    You’re the biggest asshole in the world this kid was a good kid,he loved Detroit what is wrong with that you POS, he had many friends in Detroit black, white, latino , Chaldean,he was loved by many people and that mofo took his life over what probably something stupid because it always is .

  39. @Anonymous

    He was my “Hs” friend? What does that mean? Was he your homie’s friend? Speak and write in English so we can understand what you are talking about (please).

    What was the other cause you can ascribe to black violence? It would seem they are more prone to violence than any other group. If you can prove otherwise, then enlighten us!

    Here is what happened: he (white guy) accidently hit the guy’s car and died because the negro was angry. I carry insurance which would have fixed the tall skinny negro’s car, but heaven help me if I hit his car. White people take their lives in their hands when they stop for black people in Detroit. Here is what one unfortunate man encountered. You should have seen his face…beaten to a bloody pulp by 10 to 12 negro men.

    https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/04/04/white-man-beaten-by-mob-in-detroit-after-hitting-boy-with-truck-was-it-a-hate-crime/

    I’m not sure if you are aware that black people have a problem with anger management. This is one reason white people really don’t want to associate with them. It is also the reason some Korean stores in the big cities use Plexiglas to separate themsleves from the concrete jungle.

    OK…enlighten me about this statement: “is a shame y’all racist fucks see this as the only cause”

    What is racist about telling the truth? If you visit these sites, you will realize this subject is not covered superficially, but in depth. This didn’t just happen this one time to this one man; it happens over and over and over. There is no other outcome when dealing with black folks.

    What was the other reason? The black came from a poor household (so do many whites). There is no excuse for this thing to happen. The man’s insurance would have paid for the black’s car. I hope the black man spends MANY years in prison for what he did.

    • Replies: @anon19
  40. Bettrina says:
    @Mary White

    You’re So right Mary,
    Tyler was a good kid from a good family, damn people,
    He believed there should be no racial divide in our country he loved Detroit,
    What’s wrong with the young man wanting to see the good in people and in the city.
    You people that are dissing him and putting him down are POS’s.!!!!!!!!
    At least this kid believed in helping others and seeing the good in everybody ,
    people like you are the reason racism is still going on …..

  41. @Prophet

    Berkley, where life is so easy and devoid of struggle that the city council has nothing better to do than vote to get rid of gender specific terms like “manhole” and replace it with the gender neutral term “maintenance hole” so wimps who don’t know if they’re male or female won’t be offended or triggered.

    • Replies: @eah
    , @Alden
  42. Poor guy should have never gotten out of the car, and maybe should have left the scene if it was getting too hot. I seriously doubt this would happen down South as there are plenty of guys heavily armed and would have shut that shit down pronto. Remember: no one is coming, it’s up to us.

    • Replies: @Pepe the Frog
  43. Bettrina says:
    @Non PC Infidel

    Another asshole !
    Why do you people even open your fucking mouths when you don’t know what you’re talking about .
    Tyler was a hell of a good kid he just ALWAYS seen the good in people ,what’s wrong with that,,
    Atleast he was hoping to make a difference , as you sit there and judge him what the hell are you doing to help stop racism, absolutely nothing because you’re an asshole for opening your shit hole mouth !!

  44. @Anonymous

    We are alive and stay far away from places like Detroit.

    He is dead and believed in “Detroit rising”.

    Think of it as evolution in action.

  45. Bettrina says:

    Just to let you Racist Assholes know,
    Tyler Wingate was, (yes I have to say was, because some piece of Shit took his life over what ! Didn’t even give him a chance just started punching on him!) a very loving, caring,thoughtful, funny young man who saw goodness in everyone!!
    This young man came from a family of very loving respectful people, for you idiots to sit there and say oh white boy in a black city what do you thinks going to happen …
    Tyler has many friends a majority of them are black,
    Tyler didn’t see COLOR, he saw FAMILY !!!
    This young man is going to be truly missed ,
    I hope nothing happens like this to your family members or your friends . Think of that before you open your mouth and spew out something stupid !!

  46. “I’m black and he was my Hs friend is a shame y’all racist fucks see this as the only cause“

    I’m sorry, would you mind putting that into an understandable sentence?

  47. @Anonymous

    YO…Mooky…
    Go find a human that can tolerate your presence, and beg it to write something for you to post here that consists of something other than illiterate, stupid, jabbering, very likely lying, ooking and eeking.
    Then, after you get to see your “Looks At Muh” posting…
    go out and run in front of a speeding bus.
    Do it today…you Missing Link/Beast Of The Field horrid smear on this nation and this planet.

    • LOL: TKK
  48. What good came out of having friends of all colors? Tyler is either in an urn or 6′ under.
    That kumbaya bs is simply not worth your time.
    It’s really tragic how these young people are brainwashed.

  49. Anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bettrina

    Bettrina,

    I don’t think anyone here doesn’t think Tyler didn’t believe that he meant well. They’re just saying that his beliefs (and by extension, yours, I believe) are ignorant in that they are inconsistent with the reality of the world. Just because you believe in your idea of an ideal world and really, really want it to exist and be true, doesn’t make it so.

    I fear that if you’ve learned nothing from poor Tyler’s brutal murder, and continue through life believing your surroundings are just like the make believe ideals in your mind, you’ll imperil yourself in the same fashion as he did.

    • Agree: 95Theses
  50. Anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lost in Illinois

    English or not, the salient follow-up question is what possible other cause would there be for a black man to viciously beat a white man to death with his fists and feet after a minor fender-bender than strong racial animus?

    The only real justification that could be made for this murder in 2019 that could be spoken of in polite society is that the victim himself instigated the incident by engaging in “hate speech” with the murderer after the accident, and thus the black man was justified in killing him. But from the sounds of things, the murdered white man was clearly not one to say things like that.

    Do you think a black man would beat another black man to death with his fists and feet in Detroit after a minor car accident AND the witnesses would only make feeble attempts to stop the murder AND the witnesses would quietly disperse afterwards? (Maybe? But less likely…)

    Of course the only reasons for this man’s death was his race and the race of the murderer and, by extension, the murderer’s enablers.

    • Replies: @Alden
  51. G. Poulin says:
    @Lost in Illinois

    Before they can speak and write properly, they will have to learn how to think properly. Don’t hold your breath on that score.

  52. Things like this happen because of the BAMMAMA Factor, or Blacks Are More Muscular and More Aggressive.

    Main argument against racial integration should be that weaker whites need safe spaces from stronger and more aggressive blacks.

  53. @Feedsackroad

    No, it should read:

    If you have an accident in a place where you are clearly a minority, do not stop. Take your chances in court, not in the streets.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
  54. skedaddle says:
    @Bettrina

    His murder is a crime but he needed to see people for what they are, not what he wanted them to be. That realism should transcend color but too often people give darker skin a pass on judgement when they should be judged the same as whites. If the Tylers among us would be willing to judge people instead of giving everybody a pass, then they would be safer and we wouldn’t have these sickening headlines so much. Think, judge, discern and be willing to upset someone to stay safe.

  55. @anarchyst

    Anarchyst Post #1————— About 10% of Blacks function well in a modern economy.The Fred of “fred on everything” points out that the majority of Blacks have been in custodial care since the 1960s. Well worth your time to check his blog.

  56. eah says:
    @Sick 'n Tired

    I’m reformed (“LOL”) and will avoid name-calling (admittedly a weak point) — the city that decided to no longer use the term “manhole” was Berkeley, CA — here the city is Berkley, MI — note it’s spelled differently and is in a different state.

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
  57. L in TX says:
    @Female in FL

    “Paul, I seem to remember a white kid who had a negro pal. The negro convinced the white kid to drive to a seedy area of Detroit. The negro was in the process of becoming a gang member. He, along with additional negroes, beat this white kid to a pulp, left him for dead. The white kid did survive and could not believe what his friend did to him.”

    I remember this guy. I saw a YouTube video where he talked about what happened to him. It actually shocked me too despite being a realist since my early 20’s. He and the negro had been friends since they were 7. Just goes to show you that even the Ikago’s could turn on you at any moment.

    • Agree: Female in FL
    • Replies: @eah
    , @Counterinsurgency
  58. @Bettrina

    Bettrina Post 33————-Racism is due to stereotyping.Stereotyping is due to pattern recognition.Pattern recognition is based on prior experience. Best to be anti-racist in an all white safe zone.Poor guy should have stuck to a Whitopia small town or at least a White gated community.

    • Agree: Augustus
    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  59. Posting an update, I was wrong about the Ole Miss student. A white guy has been arrested.

    • Replies: @eah
  60. The eternal non-stop FREE FLOWING economy of the the black ghetto is WELFARE. This is followed by crime and the sale of drugs. There are no records kept (tax free) of these last two income sources so the CASH FLOW from these ventures become the goals and ambitions of the average ghetto dweller. The desire for “easy money” is what keeps this street economy chugging away like a well oiled engine.

    There is a street code among the rabble. That code is “you ain’t a man until you make a life or take a life’”. Because of this sacred code the African Primate spends his time “muh dickin” the females and killing each in their ever lasting territorial turf wars. Gangs are now based on what block these primitive creatures live on. Metal detectors for schools are a major enterprise.

    Certain females of the species become very popular among the “muh dickers” and will gladly spread their legs for a bottle of Colt 45, a snort of coke, a slice of pizza or some fried chicken. The word on the street spreads real fast about which “bitches” are “putting out”. These gang members will be sniffing around hoping to “git sum”. Everybody on the street knows who “got his”.

    These “easy piece” females start breeding offspring at the early age of about 14 and 15 . The feral and fertile black female feels no shame about having a brood of “keeds” by the time she turns 21. To her way of thinking this is proof that she was desired and “wanted by the men”. At the age of thirty she will tart having grand children (tax payer funded). These “rabbit like” breeding cycles adds to the ghetto economy because it brings in more free welfare money from Uncle Freebie who lives in Washington, the famous town named after a bigot white slave owner. The spawn coming from ghetto breeders provide new cannon fodder for the local gang and criminal population.

    While a bullet riddled predator is dying in an emergency room (tax payer funder) two more psychopaths are popping out of the womb of welfare breeders in the maternity ward upstairs (tax payer funder). The ghetto street stalker lives for the “thrill of the kill” and will shot somebody for any stupid reason. Revenge killings are also very popular and brings the body count to record numbers in larger cities.

    Their will never be a shortage of dead and wounded bodies and pregnant “yoofs” because Uncle Freebie has no intentions on cutting back the money that keeps this brutal system alive and well. When Jamal kills Pricktavious for his tennis shoes there is no big loss on the streets because waiting in the wings is another young psycho who will gladly take his place. He be hoping to “git his”. The white tax paying liberal never seems to object to the amount of money wasted on these primitive savages. The children of these dimwits will even move to places like Detroit. I think the coming race wars will be between the Mexicans and Africans as they butcher each other for the “gimme dats”.

    Have you been keeping up on the thousands of spear chuckers and tree swingers crossing the border. They are coming straight from Africa and are lining up for more “freebies”. America is now a dying country just like half of Europe.

  61. eah says:
    @Bettrina

    Just to let you Racist Assholes know

    You need to ignore comments on Kersey’s articles that should be ignored — but you should also keep in mind: this was a horrible, savage crime, one that should not happen in a civilized country — so people are understandably shocked and angry (also because the national media won’t pay any attention to this story, as they certainly would if the races were reversed, which just helps perpetuate the myth that Blacks are innocent victims of racist Whites: the national media ignores the huge number of heinous crimes committed by Blacks, but plays up the much smaller number of incidents where Blacks are victims).

    Tyler didn’t see COLOR, he saw FAMILY !!!

    I’m sure he noticed the other driver involved was black — and unfortunately, whether you want to admit it or not, when out in public, especially when dealing with others where tempers may run high, you should definitely pay attention to “COLOR” because Blacks are significantly more prone to violence than any other race — that’s just statistical fact.

    And do you know if the people who reportedly left him there to die were also black?

    It’s normal to get out of your vehicle to see if anyone was hurt, check the damage (both of which are factors in deciding if you need to call the police right there), and exchange insurance info — I haven’t seen the (alleged) video of the incident, so I don’t know what happened (eg maybe he was ‘sucker punched’) and so cannot fault the victim’s behavior — but there are many who would say he lacked ‘situational awareness’, all circumstances considered.

    • Agree: 95Theses
  62. @Not Woke--Not Broke

    It is interesting that we live in a time when consumer products have warning labels based on the concept that some idiot is capable of misusing the product.

    What this guy needed was a bright red street sign that said: “Warning: This area is dangerous for white people and other living things. Enter at your own risk.” 😉

  63. @Bettrina

    Lol. This reminds me of an argument I had with a white liberal friend who wanted to defend blacks at every turn. He finally admitted that a black friend told him to never enter his black neighborhood alone and to always call and he’d be met and escorted into and out of the neighborhood. At least some people can be honest about the dangers instead of trying to pretend that everything is just fine and wonderful.

    It was inevitable that this kid was going to become a crime statistic- it was only a matter of time- and it doesn’t matter what he thought, believed or felt or how many friends of color he had or if he was a “good kid” or “trying to make a difference” or if he “always saw the good in people.” None of that was going to make him immune or change what eventually happened to him. Once he started engaging in high risk behaviors such as hanging around in an 83% black city and throwing all caution to the wind, his fate was sealed. It’s too bad his friends didn’t care enough about him to keep it real and warn him instead of remaining silent.

    You can throw a temper tantrum and rant, rave, screech and yell racist all you want. The fact remains that if this kid had been listening to asshole racists like us and was informed about all the crime stats and dangers, he’d be alive. Listening to people like you is what got him killed.

  64. @Anonymous

    Not surprising to find that you don’t.

    Sadly, it takes longer these days to peel back the eyelids of our white ‘yoof’ Who are raised like blacks in skool.

    I had my eyes pried open early since I was born in Jersey City in the 60’s. Idiot white parents who no longer give their own kids the ‘lay of the land’ are as responsible for this Eloi tax as the nogs.

    The fact he thought he would make difference in Detroit of all places shows the lack of reason he possessed.

    The fact that this anon entity called him a ‘friend’ yet did not warn him about the nature of his kind goes back to that old adage…

    With friends like that, who needs enemies?

  65. @Bettrina

    I think it’s because they killed him.

    Are you sooooo blind as you can’t recognize the danger?

  66. @Bettrina

    I wonder if he saw the good in the savage that beat him to death?

    It’s clear you do.

  67. @Lost in Illinois

    I’m believing Hs should have been HS, short for ‘high school’.

    Stand back. I’ve been specially trained in this language.

    • Replies: @WSG
    , @Augustus
  68. CindyWD says:

    As a “Black” American, I am deeply saddened by this young man’s demise at the hands of a disgruntled motorist. Based on what I have read about him, he was an admirable human being who was simply trying to make a difference in this mean world. May the peace of God, which passes all understanding, guard the hearts and minds of his family and friends…especially his dear mother. ❤ LORD HELP US AS WE RETURN OUR HEARTS AND MINDS BACK TO YOU!

  69. @The Alarmist

    Actually, I think the police even say as long as your car is driveable and no one is injured (i’d ignore both caveats) drive to your nearest police station and detailed care of it there.

    • Replies: @95Theses
  70. Bettrina: “Tyler has many friends a majority of them are black,
    Tyler didn’t see COLOR, he saw FAMILY !!!”

    If, as the article states, he was from a large family, then it’s a fairly safe bet that at least some of his relatives were black, so this is probably true. Doesn’t make Bettrina any less of a lolcow though. Keep going Bettrina! You’re hilarious!

  71. Anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:

    This incident underscores Ex New Yorker’s post where he implies kids are nothing more than props to black girls in the hood, markers of their sexual worth and chips to be cashed in for higher welfare payouts:

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/23/georgia-woman-allegedly-drops-kills-baby-during-fight/

    This black woman was more interested in besting her rival in combat in the nail salon parking lot than the welfare of her newborn she happened to be carrying in her arms at the time.

    For all the “whites commit these same crimes all the time too” posters, when was the last time white women got involved in a brawl while holding an child? This already makes two such incidents in the past few weeks involving blacks after the Disneyland Toontown brawl that took place July 6th:

    https://abc7.com/3-charged-in-caught-on-camera-brawl-at-disneylands-toontown/5413618/

    • Replies: @eah
    , @Female in FL
    , @95Theses

  72. ….as Detoilet police continue to search for the driver.

    Orcs don’t buy car insurance or even drive with valid plates and licenses. Still should be an easy roundup. With our current “justice” system the murderous orc will be given probation and a stern talking-to.


    They said he moved to Detroit because he believed in the city and knew it would continue to rise.

    The weight of (((propaganda))) being what it is, it’s entirely possible Tyler’s parents and even grandparents were just as brainwashed and trapped within the “They’re just like us” bubble.

    Much of the video is too graphic to show

    WRONG. This should be broadcast, unedited, on every TV station in North America. Let every White eye should see orcs for what they really are.

  73. eah says:
    @Anonymous

    For all the “whites commit these same crimes all the time too” posters

    Such people are dishonest, even disgusting — the data generally about crime, as well as interracial crime, is clear — also the facts in AmRen’s ‘Color of Crime’ reports: If New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent…In 2013, of the approximately 660,000 crimes of interracial violence that involved blacks and whites, blacks were the perpetrators 85 percent of the time. This meant a black person was 27 times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa.

    Honestly, Blacks should be seen as a different subspecies, one that doesn’t belong in the same country:

    This black woman was more interested in besting her rival in combat in the nail salon parking lot than the welfare of her newborn

  74. Pat Boyle says:

    Lots of normal white Americans realize that bad black behavior is not just the product of some inadvertent casual white racist remark or other unfortunate childhood event as is the legend. They suspect that black sociopathy has some deeper roots. But they say nothing.

    These white people must bear some of the responsibility for this death. They by inaction allowed this young man to make a series of fatal mistakes regarding where he chose to live and whom he chose to consort with. Had he simply read John Derbyshire he could have been exposed to his advice – “be careful around blacks”. Had he heeded that advice he might still be alive.

    There are plenty of liberals who will even today tell you to not worry about having blacks all around you. You may survive that advice or maybe not. This young fellow was a victim of his ignorance and credulity. Blacks are not the same as whites or Asians. They are in almost all settings more violent.

    The violence of blacks is too universal and too consistent for it to stem from some environmental source. The environmental theory of the observed greater black violence is just preposterous. As we have seen in the Smollett case – modern day blacks do not experience much if any classical racism. There is so little classical racism in everyday life that blacks have to create their own racism incidents.

    The theory of black violence from white racism, simply doesn’t happen. Try to find a case where a group of whites taunted a poor black guy who then went into a murderous rage in righteous retaliation. Go ahead – find such a case. If you find it it will be plastered all over the airwaves. Every TV News show will broadcast the story. But you won’t find such a story. Blacks kill mostly other blacks for the most mundane reasons – some argument or dispute over gambling. (See reality TV)

    Black violence is not the result of some important personal insult. Black violence is not plotted or planned. Detective TV shows don’t usually show black homicides for many reasons but one is that there is seldom any mystery or complex motivation. Black violence occurs almost spontaneously wherever there are blacks. Whites don’t expect this and can get caught up in the mayhem.

    The lesson here is obvious. Whites and blacks cannot long live together. Right now we are going through a period of history where the dominant whites are remarkably tolerant of the defective societal skills of blacks. If and when whites tire of all the tolerance – the blacks will be in big trouble.

  75. I would also like to add this comment to the one I left above. I forgot to mention how violent the ghetto females have become. I have read hundreds off stories and seen hundreds video clips of the female primate literally beating and kicking the holy shit out of each other. More than half the time it is two or three breeders jumping on one woman. My favorites were the Chucky Cheese and Burger King brawls. The reason for this obscene behavior is “cuz she be messin’ wit my man an sheet” or the fact that “dat fried chicken not be dun rite”. A lot of American cities have become nothing but a zoo filled with wild creatures killing and beating on each other. This may some day come to an end when the zoo keepers stop feeding the animals.

    I would also like to welcome back Pat Boyle. I always liked his view of what is happening.

    • Agree: Augustus
    • Replies: @Lucy
  76. @eah

    He’ll never survive in a MS jail.

  77. @Anonymous

    A few years ago I saw a video of two negresses fighting. One was holding a baby, she dropped it on the concrete sidewalk. Nothing happened to the kid which is why I’m shocked this one died.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  78. @Justvisiting

    What this guy needed was a bright red street sign that said: “Warning: This area is dangerous for white people and other living things. Enter at your own risk.<blockquote

    Or Dante's " Abandon all hope ye who enter here".

  79. WSG says:
    @Bettrina

    I once had a bad case of Bettrina. The doctor prescribed a full course of anti-virals and some bedrest. One week later, and I was right as rain.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  80. Off Topic

    I think a lot of famous people should cut back on the meds their taking. No matter how much of a dirt bag Clinton, Bush and Obama were I don’t recall any has been movie and television stars, politicians and other bottom feeders ranting and raving about how they would like “punch that guy in the face”. Welcome to the new America.

    • Replies: @Pepe the Frog
  81. WSG says:
    @Jim in Jersey

    LMAO!!! Thank God for you and Barbara Billingsley.

  82. @eah

    Yeah. We have bad people too. Surprise!

    My bet is that if you removed all the black/brown crime that has taxed our system since the 50’s the numbers would be (proportionally) right where they were before it all started.

    The majority of whites just don’t have it in them.

  83. @NC Realist

    Whaaa…You’ve got to be kidding. Its been raised here before that these families may be afraid if they should say the wrong thing?

    • Replies: @Oldtradesman
  84. eah says:
    @Pat Boyle

    They by inaction allowed this young man to make a series of fatal mistakes regarding where he chose to live and whom he chose to consort with.

    Current info says he lived in Berkley, MI, which is 90% white and has violent (and property) crime rates far below the national average.

    Some Whites just cannot afford to live far enough away from large concentrations of Blacks.

    From the article:

    …minor car crash on Detroit’s west side early Monday morning…

    Berkley is NW of Detroit — so maybe he was just on his regular commute route when the accident happened.

  85. @Negro Antidote

    You’d be a billionaire.

    • Replies: @Realist
  86. Anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:

    Nice to see ex New Yorker and Pat Boyle posting again. Such insightful comments from both. As for you young people commenting on the joys of diversity, get a clue. Detroit has been a cesspool for sixty years. Parts of it have been a cesspool since it’s founding. I know, I lived there. Now the violence has been brought to the metropolitan region. Thanks to furthering fair housing and section eight vouchers. I do believe it was 52 years ago today that the 1967 Detroit riots stated. Five days of looting and shooting. This country better wake up. Sleeping far too long.

  87. @Bettrina

    What’s wrong is that Tyler’s outlook on life got him murdered!!!

  88. eah says:

    Man beaten to death after car crash on Detroit’s west side

    Per this link, the accident happened at 2am — there is enough apparent damage to both cars that the normal reaction would have been to call the police to the scene.

    • Replies: @Republic
  89. @D-FENS

    That is a good idea for some sort of overlay for whatever gps/map/navigation system people have in their cars…nog density meter. So you know before you go.

    I am still sorry to hear of this death and offer condolences to the family. It hurts that this will get no media play and thus the lesson will be hidden from many.

    If the tables were turned….we know it would be front page for weeks as it stands it’s another reminder how we are hated and ignored the only true minority race on Earth!

  90. @Bettrina

    Tyler was a good kid from a good family, damn people,

    And now he’s dead at the hands of an African savage.

    Most of his friends were black, you say?  I’m sure that protected him from your moral scolding.  It didn’t protect his life.  What’s more important to you?

    He believed there should be no racial divide in our country

    There is a word for beliefs which contradict obvious reality.  That word is “delusion”.  Immutable differences in thinking and behavior divide the African from the European; skin color is just a convenient marker.  The divide exists and cannot be erased.

    Your attitude is common, and it flows from Soviet Marxism and the doctrine of the New Soviet Man.  The Soviets tried to remake human nature.  They also tried to remake crop biology, with the “vernalization” doctrine of Lysenko.  Lysenko gave them even worse crop failures on top of the damage done by collectivization, and human nature remained what it is despite all the oppression and misery the Soviets inflicted upon “counter-revolutionaries”.

    Tyler was a committed revolutionary.  His commitment got him killed, because he refused to try to escape an obviously dangerous situation.  That would have been “racist”, I guess.

    he loved Detroit,

    Detroit was a great city before the blacks came.  It’s now a pile of crap, at about 1/3 of its peak population.  Even the blacks wanted out of there, and they went to places like Southfield and Warren.  They turned those places to crap as well.

    Want to make Detroit great again?  Send the blacks to Liberia, and watch it bloom.

    What’s wrong with the young man wanting to see the good in people and in the city.

    When you refuse to see the bad and get yourself killed, harming your family.

    You people that are dissing him and putting him down are POS’s.!!!!!!!!

    He got himself killed through his own foolishness.  We would prefer that NOBODY get killed this way again.  He’s dead, nothing can hurt him any more.  So what are you defending?  Tyler, or your belief in your own moral righteousness?

    At least this kid believed in helping others and seeing the good in everybody ,

    But now he’s dead at all of 22 and of no help to anyone.  But he wasn’t “racist”.  You’d rather have him be dead than “racist”.

    You’re not alone.  We’ve had the same reaction by the surviving friends and families of other victims of African savages.  I’m sure you’re sincere, but really… you are TOTALLY fucked up.

    people like you are the reason racism is still going on …..

    People like us want to keep people like him from getting killed.  “Racism” is just our recognition of the hazard to property, health and life due to the African-infestation of this country.

    • Agree: Augustus
    • Replies: @Raccoon
    , @brandybranch
  91. @TheTruthTeller

    I’d go one better and say do not stop the car drive to the nearest police station and go inside to report. Say you feared for your life is why you didn’t stop. The police will understand. I wish everyone was taught this before being given a driver’s license.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  92. eah says:

    Suspect in deadly beating after traffic crash had no license, didn’t own car

    A witness eventually pulled Davis away from Wingate then he, along with three others, took off and ditched the Impala.

    Typical ghetto trash — they’re probably all black, and just left him there to die in the street (which he did).

    And the usual ‘he dindu nuffin’ excuse-making from the family the perp:

    His family also says – although he punched Wingate – likely out of rage – he did not mean to kill him. They say – that’s just not him.

    This despite the report of what actually happened:

    Wingate is seen, at one moment – trying to get up, but the punches and kicks continue.

  93. @Bettrina

    Tyler didn’t see COLOR, he saw FAMILY !!!

    So how did that work out?

    Think of skunks, yellow jackets, copperhead snakes, etc. Nature color codes the more unpleasant and dangerous animals for us. Remember, life is just one big ol’ IQ test.

  94. Anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @Female in FL

    I only watched the video once in passing. I’m guessing the baby died from additional trampling that occurred after it fell to the ground by the combatants. Also, if you were to watch it again, I think the first person that showed up came to break up the fight seemed to be oblivious/unconcerned about the baby and ran over it.

    It was only the second or third witness to show up that actually picked up the baby’s carcass and got it away from the brawl (another telling point).

  95. @Bettrina

    This young man was a lemming. And his suicide by black is ample evidence of this

    • Troll: eah
    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
  96. eah says:
    @eah

    The details in this story hint at reasons for his murderous rage after the accident: no valid license, driving someone else’s car in the early hours of the morning, probably up to no good, worried all of that would come to light — the poor victim was just in the wrong place at the wrong time — but there is no right place or right time to be around ghetto Blacks.

  97. @Ex New Yorker

    Agreed, except that nobody and I mean nobody will have the numbers to stand up to the Mexicans in much of the “USA” in the long run.

  98. AceDeuce says:

    Reminds me of this, as detailed in Jared Taylor’s Paved With Good Intentions:

    …”There was not even the element of revenge in the death of
    white, twenty-three-year-old Danny Gilmore. One evening in July
    1988 he was driving his pickup truck through a black neighbor-
    hood of Cleveland, looking for the freeway. A black man on a
    moped pulled out without looking and bumped the truck. He was
    uninjured, but a crowd of about forty black men soon showed up.
    People started pouring beer into Mr. Gilmore’s truck. Someone
    tried to get into the cab and grab the keys. A scuffle broke out,
    and the blacks thrashed Mr. Gilmore. He broke away, stumbled in
    front of his truck, and collapsed on the street. One of the blacks
    started the engine, and as the crowd cheered him on, crushed Mr.
    Gilmore under the wheels of his own truck.

    The black reporter for the Cleveland Plain Dealer who covered
    the killing immediately recognized it to be racial dynamite, but his
    white editors buried the story and, over his protests, suppressed
    the race angle. The killing got little local attention and no national
    coverage. The Cleveland homicide detective who covered the case
    explained it this way: “The mayor’s office doesn’t want us to have
    racial killings in this town, so Danny Gilmore’s death wasn’t a
    racial crime. And I’m the tooth fairy.”

  99. Europe went through WWI and WWII and lost millions, but it had ONE GREAT ADVANTAGE over the US. Europe had NO blacks, a far more destructive force against civilization than wars and bombs.

    But Europe lost that crucial advantage over the US.

    This is London now.

    Europeans Europeanize, Africans Africanize.

    It’s in the genes, not the dirt.

  100. Not sure why Bettrina and Anon are so hostile to the people here. Paul Kersey and the people who post here are “race realists” not racists. If Tyler Wingate got into a car accident with anyone at this site, he wouldn’t have been beaten and killed. We all know this. I guess when those that have been indoctrinated by the Left lose someone to black violence they immediately get angry and lash out. Too bad they waste their energy and lash out at all the wrong people. If Bettrina and Anon want to experience real racism I suggest they go looking for the Savage that murdered Tyler and hand out flyers or go door-to-door in that same Detroit neighborhood where he was killed. Or if they can’t travel then ask all of Tyler’s “black friends” to now “make a difference” and contribute heavily to his GoFundMe account (Spoiler Alert: they won’t!).
    I will give this to Bettrina and Anon. They said his murder was “senseless”. Hmmm…interesting adjective. They are now on the road to race realism. Welcome. Now keep on looking and you will realize that most black behavior day-to-day is senseless.
    Stay Alert, Stay Armed, Stay Away and Stay Alive!

    • Agree: Love Street
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  101. @eah

    My mistake, I thought he was from California Berkeley, especially with the “wanting to be part of improving Detroit” aspirations.

  102. AnalogMan says:
    @Bettrina

    Atleast he was hoping to make a difference , as you sit there and judge him what the hell are you doing to help stop racism

    Absolutely nothing. Afraid you got a wrong number. We don’t try to stop racism; we encourage it. We do it for your own good. Spread the racism around; the life you save may be another “hell of a good kid”.

    I’m sorry about Tyler. I’m sure his heart was in the right place. But, looking back over a long life, I see clearly now that I’ve done a lot of stupid things. And all of them that I can now recall boiled down to one root cause. Excessive trust.

    I survived. Tyler didn’t. And that’s “what’s wrong with that”.

  103. Blue Juice: “Paul Kersey and the people who post here are “race realists” not racists.”

    What’s the difference?

  104. gp says:
    @Jack Again

    I’m a concealed carrier. Despite the popularity of legal carry, you’ll notice that legal carriers rarely shoot thugs. One reason for that is that we have situational awareness: we stay away from thugs, so we have few opportunities to get attacked. On the street, a gun helps you, maybe, only after you already screwed up by walking into a thug jackpot you might have avoided.

    A gun doesn’t make you invulnerable. In fact, if your attacker gets hold of you before you can draw it, or heaven forbid takes your weapon away from you, that’s a whole new level of vulnerability. Stay away from stupid people doing stupid things at stupid times in stupid places. Then you won’t have to shoot them as often.

    • Agree: ShermanFan
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  105. @Patrialiberty

    If the tables were turned and Tyler justifiably shot the orc while the orc was trying to rob him at gunpoint, it would be a national outrage, with weeks of footage of mama/sista/grandma saying “Why he hab to shoot muh baby” “How else he ‘posed to get money fo’ skoo clothes?” “He a gud boi” nonsense.

    Along with looks into how Tyler obtained his gun, why he “didn’t just shoot him in the leg”, plus the character assassination of Tyler, how he once laughed at a joke with the N-word in it 10 years ago, failed to check his white privilege for subconscious systematic racisim, demands he be fired or kicked out of school, and all the other crap. Instead the poor guy is relagated to a local news blurb, and will be swept under the rug when the next racist outrage story is plastered on the news when a white person fails to hold the door for some entitled boon.

    • Agree: Female in FL
  106. Car accidents in Michigan are not the same as most places, especially in Detroit. Michigan is the only state that has true no-fault insurance with regards to damage to the vehicle. If you don’t buy full coverage insurance (called broad form collision), you are responsible for damage to your own car even if the other person is totally at fault in the accident. This is a risk that many take due to Michigan having such high auto insurance rates. This can lead to a greater state of anger at an accident, as you know you just suffered a financial loss if you have no fault insurance only or no insurance.

    There is often negotiation and payoffs (and promises to pay) at the scene of the accident in Detroit, particularly because if you do not have liability insurance (called no-fault), you are automatically responsible, but good luck collecting. Exchanging information or even reporting the accident is often a waste of time and even a risk in the city. I was once paid $50 in the street for a small collision where I knew I would get nothing otherwise, and my car was old. One accident prone family member has abandoned several cars after different accidents totaled them, and they had just no-fault coverage. Some were their fault and some were clearly not. My family members and myself usually buy 2 to 6 thousand dollar cars without a loan (because then you have to have full coverage), and assume the risk.
    People without insurance often try to run from the scene of the accident or drive off. The other party often tries to stop them, and make them get money brought to the scene by friends and family.

    Even living in the close-in suburbs, that saves about $1500 a year; in the city, it saves more like 2 to 4 thousand a year.

    In full disclosure, you can buy limited or narrow collision insurance that pays you if you are not at fault, like in other states, but nobody buys that. You can also sue for $1000 in property damage to your car in small claims court, called mini-tort. That limit is being raised to $3000. Again, good luck trying to collect if the person is uninsured or financially unstable.

    • Replies: @Augustus
  107. Raccoon says:
    @Ex New Yorker

    Excellent rant! Well expressed and set out.

  108. @TheTruthTeller

    Agreed, but I prefer a 40, +p, PP. you want all that kinetic energy absorbed immediately. If they start getting light armor, a little 357 SiG is what the Dr orders.

    I have a tactical shotgun mounted behind the seat on the truck. Can’t get it out while driving, but if stopped I can get it quickly.

    6(7)- if you are forced to fight, you will be fighting for your life, so make it count.

  109. @Sick 'n Tired

    ALWAYS hold the door for them. That way they walk IN FRONT OF YOU.
    Appearing to be distracted, pre-occupied, and a SJW to them gets their guard down.

    Except in GA, where they breed exceptionally dumb blacks, blacks don’t rob gun stores. Why? White people with guns who are proficient.

    When confronted, respond with exceptional, not excessive, force. Low-ready is defensive display, not brandishing.

  110. @Bettrina

    I hope nothing happens like this to your family members or your friends . Think of that before you open your mouth and spew out something stupid !!

    Aside from situational awareness, the only reason my family were able to escape is because I carried a gun at all times in GA.

    I lost track of how many blacks pointed guns at me, threatened me, tried to rob me, all in that wonderful SJW city called Atlanta. Cat calling my wife in the airport, surrounding me when I objected. Waving a piece around at me over on Ponce, trying to steal my car off a car trailer at a QT on the west side, shall I continue? Attempted robbery in Tucker, tried to steal my truck at the Murder Kroger, pushed my kid off the carousel at Mall of Georgia.

    Not bad enough?
    Lurking around the parking area at Grady, fortunately Mrs Sherman had some defensive spray; home invasion near the in laws in Gwinnett.

    Let’s talk about road rage, shall we? Tried to run me off the road on I85, waving a gun at me, the run fast when you point a hand cannon at them, follow me to a dark 2 lane (idiots) then get one round out of a 22 (or similar), ol hand cannon Maggie got a little exercise that night.

    The black ran HOA that didn’t like my American Flag, not VA battle flag, American Flag; the numerous claims of racism, when before moving to GA I had no feelings that way. I was indifferent.

    Oh, you mean like a violent crime, where a kid is beaten to death by a pack of wild savages. Like those with pet apes and the apes rip their limbs off and eat their faces? The hopelessly ignorant idealists who are race blind and foolish. I’m sorry your friend died, I truly am. We will raise his name up in prayer. I do not wish the death of any innocents, regardless of their color or heritage, but I’d this doesn’t demonstrate the brutal reality of Black America in 2019, nothing will.

    • Replies: @Oil 'n Water
  111. gp says:
    @unit472

    “Police have license plate scanners now. They take pictures of every plate they scan. If the plate and the car don’t match or the registered owners license is revoked or suspended stop the car and find out what is going on.”

    This is important because thugs use stolen cars to commit violence. People in my city have been killed by thugs in stolen cars. I would gladly put a license plate recognition system in my own civilian car, and send all data in real time to law enforcement, if they wanted me to. We could improve surveillance 100X if we got enough volunteers.

    By the way folks, please always lock your cars. Don’t leave them running unattended.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  112. Raccoon says:
    @Mr. Rational

    An excellent “Fisking” – ref British journo Robert Fisk.

  113. gp says:
    @Bettrina

    “Tyler didn’t see COLOR, he saw FAMILY ” Which, even if true, doesn’t amount to a hill of beans with regard to his safety, or ours. Let me point out that family members DO kill and abuse each other quite often. Being a “family” member (even in the literal sense of direct blood relation) does not insulate a person from violent harm from another family member.

    If you think you belong to a rainbow Family of Everybody, then that family MUST necessarily include murderers, rapists, tyrants, etc. So why blabber about FAMILY?

    Think with your head instead of with your heart, and understand the point I made above.

  114. gp says:

    I had my annual physical today. My physician assistant, phlebotomist, and pharm tech were all black. They were all charming and friendly and helpful. My day was brighter for having met them.

    I’ve owned a home on a stable 50-50 white-black block for 32 years. The homeowners here are long-term, and the black ones are just as nice and neat as the whites. The renters are usually pretty bad for crime and sanitation.

    The city is awash with thug crime. I’ve had one friend murdered in his home, one robbed on the street, one stuck up in his store AND recently carjacked. He handed over the keys and the thug said “I should shoot you anyway,” but thankfully did not.

    These thugs start at age 13 or younger. Their identities are protected during the first five years of their criminal careers by our stone-stupid laws. They love murder, home invasions, carjackings, stickups, drive-bys, and bizarre car-to-car exchanges of fire, and they do it for fun and street cred, not for profit. The “music” they listen to tells them to do it; it is an openly-celebrated violent outlaw ethic.

    When they do see prison, they parole out early, and return here with the help of our many do-gooders who love to assist ex-cons, probies, and drifters. The freed thugs immediately resume armed violence, because they enjoy it.

    We have nice black people here, and I wish they could or would help come up with effective solutions to this problem, but all they come up with is opposition to LE, prayers, segregated school graduations, and endless cash-burning grifter “programs for the community.”

    The problem is NOT caused by white racism, black poverty or lack of opportunities. If we could agree on only that single proposition, we’d make some progress.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @anonymous
  115. @Pat Boyle

    I don’t post enough to give you a general agreement, but everything you said was true!

    “The lesson here is obvious. Whites and blacks cannot long live together. Right now we are going through a period of history where the dominant whites are remarkably tolerant of the defective societal skills of blacks. If and when whites tire of all the tolerance – the blacks will be in big trouble.”

    I believe that day is fast approaching!

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  116. Augustus says:
    @Bettrina

    Dear Bettrina,

    Prove on PC Infidel wrong. You need to take public transportation through ghettos, after dark, for a few years. It will teach you awareness, reality, sharpen your powers of observation, pump up the adrenaline to sharpen your reflexes, and enough combat will give you a thousand yard stare. You’ll be born again hard! The young man died for Detroit. Was it worth it?

    Have a nice day.

  117. Smoshter says:

    Isn’t that just the thing, though? This is a dog-bites-man situation. No one is batting an eye at this because, even in 2019 progressive America, everyone still believes black people are more violent and that this can’t be helped. If a white man did this, it would be legitimate news precisely because it would be so unusual.

  118. MarkinLA says:
    @homer

    He probably thought all the previous videos of whites getting beaten to death were white guys in blackface doing the beating.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  119. @homer

    Blaming the victim is not the answer, either. Undoubtedly, he know some things you (or I) don’t, too.

  120. MarkinLA says:
    @Bettrina

    people like you are the reason racism is still going on …..

    It goes on because people who don’t believe in it like this kid keep getting killed.

  121. @anarchyst

    Sounds like you lived the book Slaughter of Cities by E. Michael Jones. Euro ethnics were urban planned to move to the suburbs and become merely “white”. It was part of finishing the process of ensuring no-one would identify with Europeans that Americans were to annihilate and also to break up Catholic voting districts which kept the lid on – and inconvenienced -Hollywood’s pornmeisters

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Republic
  122. anon19 says:
    @Negro Antidote

    You would be a quadillionare.

  123. My God…..this is heartbreaking.

    If only he’d been told the truth about black violence…….

  124. Alfred says:
    @eah

    The same newspaper had this article about a pretty blond lady prinicipal:

    White Ann Arbor principal sues district for $5 million over racial discrimination

    I am really amazed how these white people stick around. Back in 1980, I could only stay in Lagos, Nigeria, for 9 days.

    • Replies: @eah
  125. anon19 says:
    @TheTruthTeller

    Just go to the first cop station.

  126. @homer

    There does seem to be a certain moths-to-the-flame quality about so many of these white victims of chimp-out.

  127. anon19 says:
    @Dr. Pepper

    “black people have a problem with anger management”…

    Once had a modbidly obese black woman “go off on me” (to use Negro terminology) at work. Profoundly disturbing. Blacks are not like other races.

  128. anon19 says:
    @Bettrina

    What is “stupid” about being white and avoiding Detroit?

  129. Augustus says:
    @Jim in Jersey

    It’s haaa skool, Jim.

    You’re such an anachronistic, (I threw that big word in there just for Oil n Water, hahaha) old white person.

    BTW, did I ever tell you about the time I was driving into Anchorage and hit a moose?…..

  130. anon19 says:
    @Pat Boyle

    There is something WRONG with blacks.

    • Replies: @Druid
  131. @gp

    Yes, unless you’re going around with your gun drawn at all times and your finger on the trigger, a gun won’t help you much in situations such as these. How will it help you in the knockout game? Nowadays people suspect you may be armed and won’t let on that they’re about to attack you. A concealed weapon or one in a dashboard or under a seat is no good in a fight, only one in the grip of your hand is, and how many people walk around so in US? It’s mostly useless for self defence, but good for revenge after an event and then by law you’re in the wrong.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    , @By-tor
  132. Augustus says:
    @Bettrina

    “Tyler didn’t see COLOR, he saw FAMILY.”

    Not a very nice family to beat him and leave him for dead. Perhaps Tyler might have been better trained if he had seen COLOR instead of FAMILY.

  133. Augustus says:
    @bob greene

    Thanks Bob. That into alone is enough to make me avoid driving in Michigan.

  134. So police haven’t been able to determine what caused the crash but the reporter could

    ” when he collided with a 2007 Chevy Impala.”

    It was the white guy dummy,

  135. @Jack Again

    had the White person been carrying a firearm.

    a) 21 foot rule. Firearms are useless if the assailant rushes from within 21 feet unless you have your weapon drawn before the rush starts. [1] Even if you have a drawn firearm, two rounds might not stop the assailant before the rush completes. [2] Note: I don’t quite understand why the firearm user practices standing in one place during the rush. Sidestepping would seem to be called for.
    a) Once W was hit in the face, the firearm would have become very difficult to draw, although it has been done in similar situations.
    b) W should have kept the car between himself and B. Socially this would have been very awkward, but it would definitely prevented the sucker punch.
    c) Drawing a firearm is a major step, and in many places is considered the same as firing a round from the firearm. There is an alternative: in most states the collapsible baton is considered a non-lethal weapon _if and only if_ one is certified as trained in its use. You want a course that gives POST certification. If no training, the collapsible baton is considered a lethal weapon. Get the training, get the baton, and snap it open [3]. If your life is not being threatened, use it as a non-lethal weapon (forearms, elbow, knee strikes), otherwise use it on other targets.
    d) Remember to report to the police and to prepay for legal defense (there are several firms that offer this service) because the bad guys _will_ report to the police that _you_ attacked _them_.
    e) Don’t talk to the police when they arrive. Basic facts — give them your picture ID, say point out evidence (dropped weapons, bruises), witnesses, then say your will wait for legal representation, or say whatever legalese your prepaid lawyer has said to say. See numerous you-tube videos from lawyers, search “Don’t talk to the police”. Your prepaid lawyers will have advice on this. Note that police have considerable time before they have to make a statement after a shooting [4]. The purpose of this is to avoid contradictory statements _of any sort_.

    But the best advice is, of course, @gp’s: keep out of dangerous places. Absence of body beats presence of mind every time. Of course, this means that there are large sections of the US I could once visit that I can’t visit now because they have been taken by a hostile power, but, hey, that’s life in a decaying republic.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] https://www.policeone.com/edged-weapons/articles/102828-Edged-Weapon-Defense-Is-or-was-the-21-foot-rule-valid-Part-1/

    2] http://www.bladefighting.com/21footrule.htm

    3] https://www.galls.com/batons

    4] https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/08/why-do-police-departments-delay-interviewing-officers-involved-shootings/

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
  136. @Bettrina

    You’re the biggest asshole in the world this kid was a good kid,he loved Detroit what is wrong with that you POS, he had many friends in Detroit black, white, latino , Chaldean,he was loved by many people and that mofo took his life over what probably something stupid because it always is .

    Whatever he did to the lives of the people around him, he certainly changed his own: he ended it. Detroit, though, is still Detroit.

    Now, if he wanted to do end his live, it’s between him and God. Chances are, though, that he wanted considerably more than that. He wanted _me_ to take the chances he was taking (say, by moving the big city bad guys into my living area) and was likely in favor of the threat being paid for and protected (with lethal force) by US Government. That makes _him_ a bad guy — he was threatening _my_ life (and all my dependents too!). I suspect that neither he nor you cared whether my life was threatened or not.

    My guesses may not be correct, but they would be the way to bet.

    I make it a rule not to have friends who are threatening my life. Just a quirk I have. So: one less very small threat, forget it, there are plenty of other threats.

    Counterinsurgency

    • LOL: eah
  137. @L in TX

    It actually shocked me too despite being a realist since my early 20’s. He and the negro had been friends since they were 7.

    True for several racial groups. Blood is thicker than water, and you can think of a racial group as an extended family, same “bl0od”.
    Also true for men vs. women. Sometimes gang membership involves furnishing a young woman for the entire gang; sometimes it’s the prospective member’s current girlfriend.

    Life is starting to look like an exercise in combat patrolling, immediate action drills, and target acquisition. That’s not good. It keeps one busy, albeit unproductive economically.

    Counterinsergency

  138. @Ex New Yorker

    You have to look on the positive side. Since cities have lost transportation and light manufacturing, the activities you list are the _only_ thing providing the population and tax revenue the cities need to decline gracefully.

    It’s like the insect parts per thousand that are permitted in grains. You can complain about it, or you can try to construct a complete insect.

    Counterinsurgency

  139. Malla says:
    @Pat Boyle

    The theory of black violence from white racism, simply doesn’t happen.

    The violence of blacks is too universal and too consistent for it to stem from some environmental source. The environmental theory of the observed greater black violence is just preposterous.

    Agree 100%. There have been problems with black crime in India. Third World India!! Land of dark skinned brown people, no white people involved.

    Goa is a state in Western India popular for its beaches. Attracts a lot of Nigerian drug dealers and ‘students’.

    From

    https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/nigerians-like-cancer-goa-minister-diplomatic-row-216637-2013-11-06

    Nigerians are like ‘wild animals’ and ‘cancer’: Goa ministers’ statements amid an escalating diplomatic row

    A week after a Nigerian’s murder sparked off unrest and triggered a diplomatic tussle, a backlash against the Nigerian community in the state continues with renting of rooms and houses to Nigerians banned by some panchayats (village council).

    Nigerians protest in Goa
    A week after a Nigerian’s murder here sparked off unrest and triggered a diplomatic tussle between the African nation and India, police in Goa Wednesday arrested one local as a murder suspect.

    However, a backlash against the Nigerian community in the state continues.

    …snip…

    Meanwhile, late Tuesday, the village of Parra, a popular residential hub for Nigerians in north Goa, passed a resolution at a specially convened meeting of panchayat (village council) banning the renting of rooms and houses to Nigerians on a student visa.

    Sarpanch of the village Delilah Lobo said the decision was taken after it was found that most Nigerians “faked students visas” to stay in Goa and peddle drugs.

    “We had to stop this to save our village. The chief minister himself says that many Nigerians are living here on fake papers. That is why we wanted to pass the resolution,” said Lobo, wife of BJP MLA Michael Lobo.

    Sioliom-Sodiem, a coastal village, has already passed a resolution demanding that Nigerians staying on rent within the village’s jurisdiction should be asked to leave.

    This backlash is already beginning to tell on young Nigerians like Chioma Ghonsali.

    Ghonsali, 24, was asked to leave her home in Anjuna by her landlord, who claimed that the police wanted all Nigerians evicted.

    “We are all God’s children. Why are we being treated like this?” she asks.

    The Goa government has already ordered a crackdown on all foreigners living in this tourism hub after a bitter clash between a mob of over 200 Nigerians on one side and police and locals on the other.

    The Nigerians, who were protesting the murder of one of the compatriots, last Thursday blocked National Highway 17 for several hours, demanding the presence of Nigerian consular officials for the autopsy proceedings.

    During the clashes, the Nigerians not only smashed a police hearse, but also dumped the corpse in the middle of the road blocking all traffic.

    They later snatched lathis from intimidated policemen who were mute spectators and began to threaten local people as well as policemen themselves for a couple of hours. Over 50 Nigerians were arrested following the violence.

    Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar later claimed that the murder was a result of a war between two narcotics gangs. The Nigerians said that their fellow national was murdered by the local drug mafia which had the sympathies of the ruling dispensation.

    Parrikar has also said that all Nigerians with fake papers would be deported soon.

    “Cases against those Nigerians who have minor charges, will be dropped so that they too could be deported,” Parrikar said, adding that getting involved in petty crimes was one of the strategies used by Nigerian drug dealers to prolong their stay in India.

    The action against Nigerians has also resulted in several ruling legislators referring to them as “wild animals” and even equating them with “cancer”.

  140. @Patrialiberty

    I’d go one better and say do not stop the car drive to the nearest police station and go inside to report. Say you feared for your life is why you didn’t stop. The police will understand. I wish everyone was taught this before being given a driver’s license.

    _Far_ better than dismounting if your car can still move and you can find the police station. I should have put that first. Yet another immediate action drill to practice and remember. Needs a bit of prep, too, You have to drive to the local police station at least once a year to be sure that you can get there. Elsewhere, most GPS list police stations as part of their “find emergency services” package. Trick would be getting to the police station before you’re stopped at a red light or similar and the opponent dismounts and breaks a window in your car to get at you (or shoots you through the window).

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @Alfred
  141. @eah

    There is a strong Black taboo about calling police or emergency medical help. You can get in serious trouble for that — the community’s residents will think of you as a menace who calls people who could take the residents away.

    Counterinsurgency

  142. eah says:
    @Sick 'n Tired

    If the tables were turned and Tyler justifiably shot the orc while the orc was trying to rob him at gunpoint, it would be a national outrage,…

    Sorry, but I don’t think that’s true — eg the Zimmerman case got a LOT of attention (more or less a national all race “chimpout”) because Martin was not armed and was not doing anything criminal when Zimmerman decided to follow him (“profiling”) — Martin did do something criminal when he confronted and assaulted Zimmerman — but Martin was not armed (“at gunpoint”) when shot by Zimmerman, which again was part of the reason for the outrage as well as the lying spin that followed.

    I think — or hope anyway — that we are still sane enough as a society to see a case of someone being robbed “at gunpoint” who then defends himself by shooting the armed robber as justifiable self-defense.

  143. @Dr. Pepper

    If and when whites tire of all the tolerance – the blacks will be in big trouble.”

    Turns out that everybody, the wnole Rainbow Coalition from Red to Violet, plus White and Black and Brown, are getting tired of all the tolerance. The various ethnic groyps can’t tolerate each other. None of the ethnic groups can tolerate European civilization. You don’t even have to ask them, they can’t shut up on the subject. Low IQ groups run up against the need to have an IQ of at least 85 to work productively in an industrial society. High IQ groups run up against the lack of order in Western societies or the lack of subordinate castes (or any castes at all), etc. Everybody is tired of being European except the Europeans, and the Europeans are getting tired of playing Mr. Nice Guy, have recovered somewhat from the last round of World Wars, and would like to have a future.

    You can see all that on TV in the disintegration of the Democratic Party and in the support for Trump.

    Couple that with the possible change in international reserve currency, the probable effect of that on US protection of the sea lanes and the dependency of everybody on global trade, and there might be a wee spot of trouble.

    This situation has historical precedent: Eastern Europe towrds the end of WW I. Essentially, the area had considerable confused fighting that greatly simplified its ethnic composition, after which it stabilized until being absorbed into the Warsaw pact after WW II.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Agree: Dr. Pepper
    • Replies: @El Dato
  144. padre says:

    White guy would never do that without police uniform!

  145. This is raw evolution in action. An environmental factor (the tiny brained anagram of “ginger”) tested the fitness of an organism (the painfully delusional Huwhite perky child) to exist in a particular environment (a typically dysfunctional chocolate city) and the organism fails the test to such a degree, the opportunity to replicate its easily deluded, reality averse self, is permanently snuffed out. As brutal as it sounds, the overall fitness of the European gene pool has just been made healthier. Have many babies with those that are comfortable accepting all of reality, no matter how dark & brutal its displays and watch the orcs get rightfully driven out of nations that were never built to have them as their undeserving, self indulgent stewards.

    • Troll: eah
  146. @gp

    I would gladly put a license plate recognition system in my own civilian car

    Dashcams are very common in UK these days. sometimes front & back & parked mode.Reason? Not the terrible driving (we leave that to the Med countries), but a specifically muslim/paki scam known as “crash for cash”.

    Load 2nd-hand car with mates having disconnected the brake lights, sneak out of ghetto to the nearest busy road and tool along selecting a mark. Obviously avoid any Eastern European plates. But there’s Nigel Niceley in his Nissan, tootling along minding his own business. Slide in front and at the next roundabout (rotary) or junction slam on the brakes a bit early, causing a small shunt. Drivers exchange details, and off we go.

    Next thing that Nigel’s insurance company knows is they’ve got half-a-dozen whiplash claims on the desk. Abdul, Achmed, and all his cousins named Mohammed. Those cars must be like the Tardis, bigger inside than out. And everybody’s insurance gets gradually hiked to absorb the cost of this once fairly widespread little business. Dashcams have pretty much finished it (obviously the cops just looked the other way, as usual).

    So cameras are de rigeur for the high-mileage motorist. Also good for Youtube footage of those mind-cripplingly insane things that one encounters on the major routes, or footage of blazing vehicles on the hard shoulder (strangely common), with the occupants standing forlornly behind the crash barrier at a safe distance.
    It would work with blacks too, or when monkeys at the safari park climb all over your car and start rippping the windowseals, wipers and aerials off.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  147. Realist says:
    @NC Realist

    Additionally…..the cucked family would like to make it known that they unconditionally forgive the fine upstanding negro as they have determined that Tyler was completely at fault for this accident and was tried convicted and the punishment carried out in a swift fashion.

    So it’s a whole goddamn family of white idiots.

  148. @Bob Smith of Suburbia

    Or type “State Rep.Erica Brown”

  149. Realist says:
    @Bettrina

    He believed there should be no racial divide in our country he loved Detroit,…

    How’d that work out??? Why would anybody love Detroit??? it’s a shithole.

  150. Realist says:
    @Camelot

    Fuck you prophet. He actually lived and worked in the city..

    He hadn’t lived there very long…he was from Berkley….so fuck you Camelot

  151. @Malla

    What?!? Don’t they have beaches in Nigeria? And plenty of drugs too.? Who’d have thought they have to go all the way to India to sunbathe and catch a tan, eh?

    • Replies: @Trevor
  152. Anonymous[235] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s indeed very sad.

    But isn’t it very American to resolve problems with violence?

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  153. Glock45 says:
    @Pat Boyle

    Blaming white Europeans for the pathological failure of the Africans is one of the central planks of the progressive religion.

    When you point out how black run cities are violent shitholes….it’s because of white Europeans.

    And when you skip the pond and try to point out that Africa is a violent shithole too…Oh!! That’s also because of white Europeans! “Muh colonialism”…blah, blah, blah.

    Next time you hear that yarn, just point out that Arab-Muslim explorers were exploring Sub-Saharan Africa over 1,000 years ago, long before white Europeans had any interactions with “the natives.”

    Those Arab-Muslim explorers’ reports about what they saw in the behavior of black Africans are almost exactly what many “race realists” today point out. They, too, saw the same elevated levels of violence, the same high time preference, the same irascibility, how easily riled black Africans are, the widespread illegitimacy, etc. Some of their writings on the subject would make someone like David Duke blush.

    And, again, that was long before whitey showed up.

    Just further proof that the usual excuses bandied about by progressives in this Empire of Lies, are just that: lies.

  154. Around blacks, never relax. I am on alert whenever they are near me. I have very forcefully told my kids the same thing. Do not go to parties wit them, do not socialize, do not be friends, nothing. Yes, there are decent blacks but you don’t know who they are.

  155. El Dato says:

    African “towns” (really, villages) were not managed by kumbaya progressivism and chanting women but by hardcore patriarchy and gruesome executions for trespassing the laws of the village chief.

    This needs to be brought back.

  156. Shaun says:
    @D-FENS

    I lived in columbia, sc for 6 years. We never walked downtown alone at night. Even at 5 points going to the bars. Definitely not a safe place.

  157. El Dato says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    Quite, quite.

    This situation has historical precedent: Eastern Europe towrds the end of WW I. Essentially, the area had considerable confused fighting that greatly simplified its ethnic composition, after which it stabilized until being absorbed into the Warsaw pact after WW II.

    Actually a subject in sore need of further exploration. Do not forget the breakup of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, leaving Austria with a capital too big to support.

    One may find other precedents in the history of the Chinese empires maybe?

  158. anarchyst says:
    @eah

    You are mistaken…
    Trayvon Martin was casing houses for future robberies.
    George Zimmerman, being the neighborhood watch person, followed Trayvon Martin who was sneaking around between houses looking for “opportunities” to commit burglary.
    Upon suggestions from a 911 dispatcher, Zimmerman was advised to refrain from following Trayvon Martin.
    Upon doing so, Trayvon Martin “double-backed” and confronted Zimmerman, knocking him to the ground and performing a MMA (mixed martial arts) upon Zimmerman.
    Trayvon Martin’s fists and his knowledge of MMA (mixed martial arts) were his “weapons”.
    George Zimmerman did humanity a favor by “taking out the garbage”.
    Initially, George Zimmerman was not charged because his actions were deemed to be “self-defense”. It was only after an outcry by the “black community” (and the threat of riots) that Zimmerman was then charged.
    Let’s not forget the “mainstream media” fanning the (false) outrage by posting Trayvon Martin’s cherubic picture as a twelve-year-old rather than his more recent “thug” picture as well as “doctoring” George Zimmerman’s conversation with the 911 dispatcher.
    The rest is history.

    • Agree: Prodigal son, 95Theses
    • LOL: eah
  159. The headline should read ” Motorist gets into car accident ,,, other motorist beats him to death .” Stoking a race war is part of the strategy of “divide and conquer ‘ employed by the “deep state ” to keep people fighting amongst themselves rather than against the less than 1% that rule over them and enslave them by debt .
    ” In addition to stoking fear toward black people , the news media worsens racial tensions between Black and white people by specifically perpetuating a narrative of white victimization . Homicide is ,for example ,a largely intraracial crime but the news media greatly overreports on less common cases of black people committing homicide against white people . ” Extract from “The dangerous racialization of crime in the U.S. news media ” by Elizabeth Sun

  160. @Mary White

    Please don’t insult animals like that. The creatures involved in this kind of evil are far, far lower than animals.

  161. anarchyst says:
    @gp

    From my personal experiences…
    I lived in Detroit and had what I considered to be “good” neighbors. Mind you, not “good black” neighbors, but just good neighbors whose skin color did not matter. We helped each other, whenever possible, looked out for each other, and had friendly relations, shared family events, barbecues and other social events.
    The “troubles” started when my “good neighbors” invited their “ghetto rat” relatives to their parties. I restored an old car to near showroom condition and used to park it in my driveway. The “ghetto rats” decided that my car would be a good place to sit (on the hood). Asking them to remove themselves was met with responses of f#ck you” and other derogatory responses. Upon discussing the situation with my “good neighbor”, he pretty much told me that “boys will be boys” and to “suck it up” and “get over it”. My friendly relations with that neighbor cooled, as he was not willing to straighten out his “ghetto rat” relatives. Soon after, these “ghetto rats” found new avenues in which to ply their criminal “stock in trade”- breaking in to and ransacking houses–easy (white) targets…
    I soon moved to an all-white enclave after that, giving up on the city of Detroit, the criminality, harassment, and civic abuse, and have never been happier.
    “It’s why it’s perfectly legitimate for whites to not want the nice black couple to move into their neighborhood” is most certainly a legitimate concern…

    • Replies: @95Theses
    , @AshtonS
    , @LiveFree
  162. The US is headed the way of South Africa, but worse when you add in the constant inflammatory garbage spewed openly by contributors featured on the Jewish media (“we need to kill all the white people!” is certainly allowed, but don’t you dare say the word “cosmopolitan” because that’s anti-semitic).

    America’s cities were its crowning achievement, and it was a profound mistake to ever surrender them to lawlessness.

    Unfortunately, a concealed carry permit is becoming more and more necessary.

  163. @Genrick Yagoda

    @eah– How is my comment “troll”? If you are a white person and live and drive through that area, blithely believing that because you love blacks that they will love you in return, you are volunteering to get murdered at the hands of blacks.

    If you ignore reality to that extent, you are suicidal. Therefore a lemming.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  164. anarchyst says:
    @Jones reader

    Here’s more…the destruction of Detroit’s public schools by blacks…

    It was just as bad in the 1960s as it is today. In fact, Detroit’s Northeastern High School among others had a “black students union” that was successful in getting the American flag removed from the front of the school and replacing it with a “black nationalist” flag.

    The ordeal that us white and Asian students had to go through was harrowing, to say the least. Us whites and Asian students did not use the restrooms, as “beatdowns” by multiple blacks was usually the result. Blacks never fought one-on-one, the “pack mentality” was evident then as is today.

    Most of the teachers and school administrators did NOTHING to attempt to quell the black violence.

    Blacks did not want to learn, the same situation that still exists today.

    Most of the teachers were deferential to blacks, although there were a few teachers who recognized the plight of us white students and tried to carefully shield their white and Asian students from predatory blacks, giving them additional attention and coursework, knowing that they could excel in spite of the, violent, raucous atmosphere.

    As is the case today, anywhere blacks go, they destroy…

  165. @eah

    OK, now I see why you think my earlier comment was “troll”. You are reality adverse.

    Zimmerman was a neighborhood watch volunteer, and Trayvon was behaving suspiciously. Zimmerman had every right to ask Martin questions. Martin had no right to attack Zimmerman and try to kill him. And concrete is in fact a weapon that can kill you.

    Did you not notice that there was a trial? Good god.

  166. sally says:
    @Feedsackroad

    emotional rage induced by the event to vent anger at the unlikely situation or
    territorial opportunity made possible by the event to make a public statement that cannot be ignored?

    manslaughter vs premeditated.. M.. ?

    and as Jack Again says @4 would a gun in the possession of the victim have saved his life? If so, maybe there should be a blanket permission and a general necessity for all in the area to remain armed.. at all times.

    This is something no law can prevent, it requires personal on the spot, self defense.. and what if the victim shot the attacker.. each would be either dead or in jail.. it will be very interesting to sort between induced rage and public statement territorial opportunity..

    I opt for territorial opportunity..

  167. Richard B says:
    @NC Realist

    Ever hear the one about (((The Useful Idiot))) who gets into a car accident with a (((Proxy)))?

    The Useful Idiot goes to the big city to feed his addiciton to Virtue Signaling and gets beaten to death after a fender bender by one of the people he came there to help.

    For those of us who grew up poor and unprotected in those cities and barely managed to escape by the skin of our teeth, this story’s more a rib tickler than a tragedy.

    This is a case of Death by Virtue Signaling. Or suicide.

    Either way, it’s the communist’s opiod crisis (I’m done calling them “The Left” or “Liberal”).

    Unfortunately, their numbers aren’t the same as those dying from the orchestrated opion crisis. Because most Whites addicted to the drug Virtue Signaling (and it is a drug) know to feed thier addiction at a safe distance from non-Whites.

    The ones that don’t are too hopped up (full of themselves) to even know where they’re going.

    Like this guy.

    His type are one notch below a mudshark.

    On the other hand, not to be too hard-hearted, they’re so young and are not being taught survial skills like critical thinking, problem-solving, effective communication, history, etc. because Jewish Supremacy Inc. has replaced Education with Indoctrination many of these children don’t stand a chance, and with rare exception the ones that do stand a chance can’t catch a break.

    • Agree: Rich
    • Replies: @cassandra
    , @Rich
  168. @anon

    anon(116——–Post 16——-Darwin Award cleanup isle 6. There is young and idealist,and there is just too stupid to live.

  169. Whitewolf says:

    The young man made the mistake of thinking that Africans in the US are somehow different than Africans in Africa. Believing in the magic dirt theory can be hazardous to your health.

  170. Richard B says:
    @NC Realist

    Though NC Realist has a point, Father O’Hara is on the mark too.

    Wasn’t there a recent PK story where a black father got a light sentence for murdering a young White man? It was said that the father’s initial reaction was explosive. Would have loved to know exactly what he said.

    But his second reaction much later was “resigned.” They had to have gotten to him.

    All of the reactions are either a sickening, over the top forgiveness, or simply stunned silence.

    I don’t ever remember a White person shouting racial slurs to the top of their lungs as they lunge toward the defendant if in court, or the reporter if they’re being interviewed (because, not infrequently, in fact probably deliberately, they send a black reporter).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  171. how would this story be approached were the two men Black..or White?

    of were the two men any combination of all men alive in the world who found themselves in a motor accident in Detroit Michigan in July 2019?

    given the content of the Black/White reality of the USA I imagine this here coverage is logical from one extreme angle..and extreme it is…emotional, surely inaccurate as a result. I mean I was not there but if anything can be called inciting this is it.

    the only apparent fact is that a white young man died possibly as a the result of an altercation between him himself and a Black male. absolutely nothing else is clarified. that is ‘inciting’ racist response and totally irresponsible..entirely unbecoming of Ron Unz and his publication.

    given Unz’s general work and approach I at least assumed that he would not tolerate any reportage like this here by Kersey. but there it is.

    was there a an argument, a fight instigated by which one of the men? did they both fight..did the white man take attack and never defended himself? was it a murder or could the death be the result a result of an altercation both men were responsible for?

    who was the wrong party to the motor accident?

    in fact after reading the report above for me at least the question still begs: what in the hell happened?

  172. sally says:
    @homer

    Probably Tyler was a fool.. but then one goes to where one sees an opportunity. Many colonist arrived in America just before an Indian Arrow was found in their bodies.

    This seems territorial to me. Beating up on the white guy is home land security at its finest. Its a public statement expressing a personal commitment to a territorial propaganda. The statement was made because it would be expected to be a newsworthy expression of the neighborhood propaganda, not because of event induced emotional rage. It resulted from a neighborhood conspiracy to promote a racially defined territorial agenda. The neighborhood, denies white folks their civil rights and the neighborhood residents are challenged to defend and champion the propaganda..

  173. @ShermanFan

    …the numerous claims of racism, when before moving to GA I had no feelings that way.

    It’s not just on-paper statistics that create racial realists, but experiences (and, man, you’ve had more than your share) such as yours that either make you a realist or force your family to make arrangements.

    Sounds like you could write a book.

    • Replies: @ShermanFan
  174. @9/11 Inside job

    so then, is the Unz Review part of the ‘Deep State’ propaganda apparatus, putting up hugely on its front page this race war inciting piece?

    is Paul Kersey working for the Deep state..John Derbyshire too?

    • Replies: @El Dato
  175. Richard B says:
    @9/11 Inside job

    What a joke.

    A better, more honest and accurate title of Elizabeth Sun’s article would be

    “The Dangerous Politicization of Race and Crime.”

    No ideologue is interested in reality.

    Their only interest in reality is in twisting it to fit their ideology.

    If they were really interested in reality they’d be more willing to expose their ideas to a process of continuous feedback and correction.

    But they have no interest or ability for that. Which is why they’re ideologues.

    How “Progressive.”

    What a joke.

    It’d be funny if these fanatics weren’t so hell bent on destroying everything they can’t control.

    Progressives are even more regressive than Conservatives. And that’s saying plenty.

    Fortunately, there’s more to life than the Right and Left.

    It’s called Reality. They both ought to start living in it.

  176. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @gp

    All your gushing about “nice” negroes means that you are incapable of discrimination and will most likely end up in your being a victim of black violence in the not so distant future.

    • Replies: @sally
    , @gp
  177. @Malla

    MALLA

    The entire Nigerian approach to life-haughty, swaggering, guileless, inconsiderate, without reflection, bellowing-it is only a matter of time before Indians take a dislike to them.

    Goa is a litmus test. Get a bunch of foreigners, unfetter them with booze and sometimes drugs, watch how they spin out of control.

    The Scandinavians start taking their clothes off. The Brits get high. The Nigerians…well, the Nigerians are just Nigerians.

  178. El Dato says:
    @Malla

    “We are all God’s children. Why are we being treated like this?” she asks.

    Because this isn’t Whitey Country?

  179. TKK says:
    @anon

    The kid needed to read “The Talk” by Derbyshire. And believe it.

  180. Republic says:
    @Female in FL

    Regarding the blonde Ole Miss who is missing, my gut feeling is a negro is involved

    No a white guy, good coverage in Daily Mail

  181. @Malla

    They be discriminating against the Nigerians.

    Good for the Indians. Obviously, they missed their, uh, Indian privilege class. Good that they recognize reality for what it is. The modern-day Western obsession with “equality” is an opium that drugs its believers into oblivion.

    “We are all God’s children.” Oh, please. That’s gives you a right to be where you are not wanted?

  182. anarchyst says:
    @Expletive Deleted

    A similar situation was prevalent in Detroit.
    A set-up accident between a car and a public city bus where the driver of the car would get in front of the bus and then slam on the brakes causing a “rear-ender” crash.
    Not only would the driver and passenger of the car make an insurance claim, present bus passengers and those getting on the bus AFTER the accident would also file for claims from the city.
    This scam went on for a while until surveillance cameras became commonplace.

  183. TKK says:
    @Bettrina

    He’s dead, you dumb c*nt.

    We didn’t kill him. The people he wanted to “help” beat him to death.

    Does that register as a “racial divide” to you?

    • Replies: @Not Woke--Not Broke
  184. @Genrick Yagoda

    That’s what liberals believe. They say the “right” things and hold the “right” views, so they will never be harmed by Blacks. Until they are.

    Blacks hate Whites. Period. They don’t make a distinction between “good” thinking liberals and bad thinking folks like the people who post on Unz.com.

    Idiot liberals imagine that even in a predominately non-White America, they will remain on top of the pile, politically and economically. Until they’re voted out of office (ask Joe Crowley, the fellow AOC beat in the primary race for NY’s 14th Congressional District) and their wealth is either taxed away or outrightly confiscated. Finally, the extermination of Whites.

  185. Republic says:
    @eah

    The murder clearance rate in Detroit is only 15%, mean that for every 100 murders in that city only 15 are ever solved!

    Mexico has a murder clearance rate of 5

    • Replies: @Druid
  186. El Dato says:
    @ben sampson

    We will never know.

    One can only go by raw data and smells.

    Some stuff on Unz smells, other things are completely tinfoil hat outrageous, some is good.

    Such is life.

  187. @Bettrina

    “…Tyler was a hell of a good kid he just ALWAYS seen the good in people ,what’s wrong with that…?”

    It is wrong to see “ALWAYS the good in people” because some people are simply not “ALWAYS good”. In the jungle that this world really is, naivety is the worst survival strategy.

    “…what the hell are you doing to help stop racism…”

    If “racism” means RACE REALISM and the social practice of separating savage people from civilized people, then “racism” should not be stopped but promoted.

    Is Bettrina a sistah?

  188. @eah

    With the conspicuous exception of the O.J. Simpson murders, no black on white murder has ever become a national morality play the way a few criminal cases are. For instance Scott Peterson.

    As my friend Nicholas Stix has observed, these cases are always seen in isolation rather than the pattern they are.

    One wearies of the “if the races were reversed” trope, but this would be the biggest story in the world if that were the case.

    P.S. Speaking of the Simpson criminal trial, the MSM throughout picked away at the prosecution case and implied it was falling apart. Never, as Jeffrey Toobin admitted in the New Yorker, would the media say the evidence against Simpson was “simply overwhelming.”

    • Replies: @95Theses
    , @Loren
  189. @Bettrina

    “…Tyler didn’t see COLOR, he saw FAMILY !!!”

    Better see color and stick to your own family. “Racism” = survival, “non-racism” is death. Ask the Boers of South Africa.

  190. @Female in FL

    A white suspect has been arrested for the murder of the (white) Ole Miss coed. Thus, the story is getting a lot of play in the MSM.

  191. TKK says:
    @Ex New Yorker

    Spot on.

    Interesting that someone else understands how much blacks hate Mexicans.

    Back in the holding cells, whites ( except bikers) avoid black gazes and show submission. This display of weakness eggs the blacks on to “ show out”.

    Not the Mexicans. They stare each other down and I swear to you- you can feel the hatred vibrating in the air. Smart correctional officers know to keep them separated.

    Montezuma’s sons have no pity for our African retards.

    The blacks should kiss our white feet, because if the Latinos become our overlords, the great coddling of De’ Narius and company will come to a brutal halt.

  192. Republic says:
    @Jones reader

    regarding E. Michael Jones:

    That guy is a Catholic who does not believe in IQ nor race.

    Says illegal Mexicans are ok because they are Catholics!

    • Replies: @4justice
  193. @Lost in Illinois

    “…I’m black and he was my Hs friend is a shame y’all racist fucks see this as the only cause…“

    “…I’m sorry, would you mind putting that into an understandable sentence..?”

    Are you so “racist” as to demand from this brutha to “act white” ?

  194. @Augustus

    I hear the moose is migrating south and becoming more aggressive. When you hit the moose, the moose hits back now.

    The moose is loose, to reuse the only Molson beer tag line.

    More people are killed by moose than by bears in national parks already. And that’s just for being stupid!

  195. @eah

    Re: Trayvon Martin. I consider myself a bit of an Internet sleuth.

    6:24 PM Martin purchases candy and a drink from a store 1 mile away based on Google maps.
    6:54 PM Martin calls his girlfriend Dee Dee.
    7:09 PM Zimmerman calls police.

    According to Google maps, it would take 19 minutes by walking for Martin to return home from the store and should have arrived at 6:43 PM. But Zimmerman encounters him at 7:08 PM.

    What was Martin doing in those unaccounted 25 minutes given the cold weather?

    The distance from the entrance of the townhouse complex to Martin’s house is 4 minutes by walking which means Martin could have easily returned home by the time Zimmerman had his conversations with the 911 operator.

    It should also be noted that Zimmerman lived on the east side of their townhouse complex while Martin live on the west side. Thus Zimmerman would only have encountered at the entrance to the community or on the east side where Martin had no business to be in in the first place.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  196. sally says:
    @anonymous

    Inventive repetitive highly patterned propaganda = X violence.. X can be any group, or persons in any place
    violence has no color, but the propaganda that incites persons to inflict their violence against others is everywhere. One study I read, (cannot yet find it again) said, in effect ” that music, newspaper articles and government doctrine are all part of the Jewish agenda to maintain Jewish superiority. The Jews pit whites against blacks..and blacks against Mexicans and use propaganda and false flag events to polarize the factions (according to the article , Jews are comfortable doing this because the important Jews all live in big houses in government highly protected neighborhoods and because the Judges and lawyers are all Jews.. so the important Jews can defend their neighborhoods against all ..).

    Also in Belize and all over Africa, where blacks are the majority, it is not infrequent that the blacks will kill each other.. over petty things.. so violence is less restrained in some races, <=maybe its not less restrained, but encouraged by the propaganda of the culture or .."?

    Holding propaganda to the truth, seems to me to be the weapon against unrestrained violence. Analyze the propaganda by neighborhood, category of race, or place of origin and you will see definite patterns that shape the scope of the residents in that neighborhood.. does not matter if you are talking Africa, Mexico, Syria, Israel, London, Paris or where ever.. its the same,; the pattern of propaganda matches the profile of the neighborhood and is predictive of the behaviors of the adopters of those patterns.

  197. 95Theses says:
    @anarchyst

    Amen! to that. I pine for the days when restrictive covenants were a regular part of real estate transactions. Even if only because White Americans have every right to do whatever is necessary to ensure their own safety and to act in interest of a commonsensical self-preservation.

    In a rational world this would be regarded as perfectly normal.

  198. mike6972 says:

    In choosing a retirement destination, I’m afraid that my choice will be driven almost entirely by demographics. I had hoped to escape from the cold, but it looks like the safest demographics are in cold, rural areas. What happened in Detroit can only spread and get worse. A Trump victory in 2020 will slow the trend. However, with the evisceration of local police and the coming gun confiscation, physical isolation appears to be the only viable personal defense strategy.

  199. @Commentator Mike

    Wow. That was just like a single, run-on stupid statement.

    Yet you were able to maintain the same level of stupid right thru till the very end!

    If you just began with “an incompetent man with a gun” such as yourself… then most of your idiotic rant might make sense.

    Not gonna bother going point for point with someone who obviously has no knowledge of the subject.

  200. @NC Realist

    Reminds me of the Amy Biehl story from the 90s. Biehl was a hip young thing from California who went to South Africa to help the locals throw off white oppression but ended up being beaten to death by a mob, who took her to be an oppressor, presumably.
    — Wait a minute, guys, it’s me, Amy! Power to the people!
    — Die, white girl!
    Still, the savagery we sometimes see from angry blacks, whether in South Africa or the US, is to a substantial degree the product of encouragement by anti-white white radicals, with their access to media, lawyers, guns, and money. Sailer omits this from his analysis. There would be next to zero problem with nonwhites at home or abroad if not for our stridently anti-white secular Jewish intellectuals and activists. Because it’s too scary to name the generals we blame the foot soldiers, but then we appear to be picking on poor people with little education who can’t be expected to behave.

    • Replies: @Loren
    , @freedom-cat
    , @eah
    , @LiveFree
  201. @Counterinsurgency

    The Tueller drill had been proven time and time again to be a falsehood, yet everyone points to it like it’s some sort of bible verse.

    Gunfights are not static. They are fluid and dynamic. There is no truth to the rumor that a holstered handgun is useless if your attacker is within 21 feet. It’s just a fallacy.

  202. @D-FENS

    Always, and that means ALWAYS (whenever possible) avoid any area with a “Martin Luther King” roadway.

  203. eah says:
    @eah

    Some more info on this case for anyone interested — a tweet from (what appears to be) a good friend of the victim.

    • Replies: @eah
  204. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Racism= harming people of another race because of their race.

    Race realism = realizing that races are inherently different and avoiding risky situations with people of other races.

  205. @9/11 Inside job

    To ignore a violent enemy that has been placed in our midst by your ‘deep state’ would be, at the very least, a foolish idea.

    I agree that treating them like the end-all problem is just as foolish, though.

  206. cassandra says:
    @Richard B

    Quite a rant.

    I checked out the story at
    http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/video-shows-berkley-man-beaten-to-death-after-early-morning-car-crash-on-detroit-s-west-side?fbclid=IwAR3OI__7biKrIHTthm3yYiIZIkNC7OWtuJvprxUa6ln-NYzdcBR2sgcuS7Us, but all I could find about Tyler’s politics was

    Tyler’s friends said the young man came from a large, loving family and befriended and helped everyone he could. They said he moved to Detroit because he believed in the city and knew it would continue to rise.

    From this report, you conclude

    Either way, it’s the communist’s opiod crisis (I’m done calling them “The Left” or “Liberal”).

    I’m having quite a hard time seeing a similarity between this guy and classics like Marx, Lenin, Stalin or Mao. In fact, Tyler might have moved to Detroit in a fit of capitalist free-market risk-taking, thinking to anticipate wave of inflationary gentrification. Maybe this is just a financial plan going bad.

    Do you have a link clarifying this chimp-out?

    • Replies: @Augustus
  207. 95Theses says:
    @eah

    Well, whaddyaknow! Another future rocket surgeon/brain scientist who was just turning his life around by paying his way to a Harvard Phd – and all from proceeds earned as an aspiring rap artist.

    And then Tyler had to spoil it all by getting into a fender-bender with the hapless, helpless dindu.

    Poor guy. The world has conspired against Lawrence Davis.

    • Replies: @eah
  208. Never stop in Detroit. Never leave your vehicle. Never open the window.

  209. 95Theses says:
    @Jim in Jersey

    In fact, Hamilton County Prosecutor, Joe Deters, give just that advice following the murder of Jamie Urton in Cincinnati in 2017.

    I will try to find that video – unless YT has deleted it.

    https://www.unz.com/sbpdl/his-name-is-jamie-urton-white-man-2/

  210. @Bettrina

    Blacks who live in Berkley are not the same as Blacks who dwell in Detroit.
    Above Eight Mile Road.

    • Replies: @Loren
  211. Alfred says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    Once, a long time ago and during the Marcos era, I was driving along Roxas Boulevard which is on Manila Bay. A taxi in front suddenly slammed on its brakes – because of a pothole I thought. I rammed the back of his car and made a huge dent. Pushed in the boot about one foot. I was driving a VW Scirocco and he was driving a crappy Asian car.

    The taxi driver jumped out and wanted to negotiate. I told him to drive to the police station and I will follow him. He prevaricated. I insisted. Eventually he drove there. The policemen took my side. They asked me to give a few pesos which I did. No fuss. I think the policemen knew that the guy had set me up.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  212. @Augustus

    Actually, it’s not “haaa skool.” It’s “haaa skew.”

    • Agree: Augustus
    • Replies: @Augustus
  213. I will say one more point on this topic: I find it odd that the friends of Tyler would want us to not only remember him as the young guy with the nice smile, but also one who had many black friends.

    Why is so important a person have a black friend? Well…I suppose they could say they had one which would mean that they are not racist, but a lot of good that does when you go against a negro who doesn’t know you.

    Didn’t Amy Biehl die in South Africa because she had the same delusion of negroes being a downtrodden, but altruistic group?

    It is more important that we warn new “Tylers” out there of the dangers of negroes. Just because there is a good negro, that does not mean there are a dozen bad ones behind the good one who will cut his throat.

    These people are not the same as us, and do not have the same temperament as us. They are a very mercurial people that can change in the drop of a hat. This is why they kill each other so often, and why they attack others. It is in their genes to commit crime. To any whites out there – ESPECIALLY white women – give up the negro.

  214. gp says:
    @anonymous

    “All your gushing about “nice” negroes means that you are incapable of discrimination and will most likely end up in your being a victim of black violence in the not so distant future.”

    I reported the 100% truth about my day, and about my block. I’m quite capable of discrimination, and even racial hatred, as you’ll see from my many comments on black violence. You are right that I could very well be a victim in the future, despite my careful efforts to defend myself.

    The fact is I’m stuck in this horrible city, can’t afford to move out. The fact is that America is stuck with its blacks; they aren’t leaving, more are coming, and wherever whites try to live alone, blacks will follow, and the government will enforce their integration with arms.

    Since we’re stuck, it makes sense to acknowledge that some blacks hate the violence just as much as we whites do, that some are Christians, and homeowners, and hard workers with steady jobs, and nonviolent. Some still believe in the American Dream, and maybe someday we can come to a consensus with them, one that dispels all the current false dogma that excuses black dysfunction, and work on implementing real solutions to the problem. What’s the feasible alternative?

    Should I be nasty to every black person I meet? Should I spit on my nice and competent physician assistant, who’s known me for two decades, because she is black? Should I be unpleasant with my very helpful pharm tech because she’s black? Should I slash the tires of the black homeowners who have lived on my block as l0ng as I have? Why not make the best of every encounter with every nice person, and enjoy our daily lives as much as we can? If that is “gushing,” then let’s gush.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  215. @MarkinLA

    Actually, he thought of himself as the bright and shiny one who was going to succeed where all others had failed, because his heart was so overflowing with love and virtue. All he had to do was reveal the kumbaya in his pure soul, and all the blacks would come rushing to his banner. This is liberalism in its essence.

  216. @Loren

    The spelling “Berkley” should be a big clue.

    University of California, Berkeley.

    Also, the event occurred in Detroit, Michigan.

    Berkley, Michigan is LGBTQXYZ+ friendly. Welcoming of diversity.

    Berkley is across Eight Mile Road from Detroit. A wide strip of pavement is all that separates the two cities.

    Are you also confused by Birmingham?
    The city in Michigan is white, Jewish, wealthy.
    The city in Alabama, not so much.

  217. 95Theses says:
    @David In TN

    Agree with every word you wrote. Also, Stix is one of the honest and courageous writers I’ve read. Lucky you to have him as a friend.

  218. AshtonS says:
    @anarchyst

    Exactly. This is an essential point when considering the IKAGO argument. Yes, there are blacks who are entirely law abiding, respectful and able to comport themselves to the social morés of white society as well as, or better than, the average white. They’re a small minority of the black population, but they do exist.

    Nonetheless, it’s advisable to keep even these blacks at arm’s length (following the Derbyshire rule out of self interest, if nothing else). One certainly should strive to avoid them as neighbors, for two main reasons:

    First, it’s highly unlikely all of their close relatives and friends are likewise IKAGOs. Even their children (or especially their children’s friends) are likely to include a fair amount of dindu garbage. So, while Lionel and Wanda Jackson might be good, respectable folk, both cousin Derontey and their son’s friends, J’Tavious and LeQueesha are not. As your experience shows, even IKAGOs tend to excuse or rationalize bad behavior among their own.

    Second, you won’t have them as neighbors forever. What happens when Lionel and Wanda retire or move? Will they sell to white folk? Maybe, if that’s clearly the best option for them. But blacks, even IKAGOs, are fiercely loyal and have strong tribal instincts; there’s also pressure from ‘da community’, to help their brothas and sistahs out. And so, the likelihood Lionel and Wanda will sell (or worse, rent) to D’Andre and Shaniqua is pretty high.

    • Agree: WSG
    • Replies: @95Theses
  219. Pup says:
    @Jack Again

    Ask George Zimmerman….

  220. 95Theses says:
    @Anonymous

    Or recall this incident which occurred in Rowlett, Texas back in 2015. Absolutely no regard for the welfare of the child.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/06/29/brutal-rowlett-teen-attacker-now-in-custody-police-say-attack-was-premeditated/comment-page-1/

  221. jester says:

    When logic meets emotion, logic touches its toes to pick up the soap.

    It seems to me that most people today have lost the ability to THINK ! The consequences as such are often disastrous. In considering black people one need only look at Africa, the West Indies, predominantly black cities or predominantly black areas in cities in any part of the world. What may have been beautiful countries or neighborhoods have been turned into dumps and slums by this race.

    Give a white man a pile of rubble and he will turn it into a castle, give a black man a castle and he will turn it into a pile of rubble ! They are not happy unless surrounded by garbage and a ruined environment.

    Seeing this, and knowing it to be a reality, logic should guide anyone to avoid them and their areas. Any white person who thinks they can help or change the mindset of black people is a fool !

    Its too bad this idealistic young man had to pay with his life to “discover” this truth but this reality should trigger the LOGIC in the brains of others to avoid black people !

    Your sympathy for their “plight” can cost you your life.

  222. @ben sampson

    I am only an outsider with no skin in the game but I think this perhaps misses the point, very much a theme of the American Pravda series, that there is systematic bias in what the MSM reports and the way they report it. Mind you it night just be responded to with “But this is no ‘man bites dog’s so what’s the story?”.

  223. Anon[197] • Disclaimer says:
    @ben sampson

    I agree that this short article is uncharacteristic of Unz. There is no blaming of Jews here. Something is definitely wrong. Are you sure that the black gentleman was not put up to this stunt by Barbara Spector ? Passover is only 8 months away , maybe they needed Tylers blood to bake matzah ?

  224. Lucy says:
    @Ex New Yorker

    To ,Ex N.Y. I really enjoy and agree with your comments. I can`t believe I`m reading about the same USA I grew up in in the 50`s and 60`s. I “escaped” to W. Europe and now S Europe. It may be marginally better than things described on unz.
    `

  225. Augustus says:
    @ClassicBenz

    I’d study mo y’all, but dats some kinda white boi thang. Unnerstan?

  226. Whitewolf says:
    @Malla

    Once upon a time White countries also dealt with unwelcome foreigners in similar no nonsense ways. These days it’s against the state religion of diversity for Whites to do anything in their self interest if a non-White somewhere in the world might be inconvenienced or even worse excluded.

  227. @gp

    So you have Stockholm syndrome.  It happens.

    OT:  man, did THIS thread ever blow up!

    • Agree: bruce county
    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
  228. jester says:
    @Bettrina

    Why does Bettrina use the asshole word so much. Surely there are other words in the English language that can be used to express a similar meaning.

    However, every time anyone presents a logical comment or line of reasoning……… Bettrina’s reply ?? You are an asshole !

    This shows a level of ignorance that is truly abominable. He was a good kids with good intentions. No one is disputing that. I think what everyone is saying is that his good intentions for black people was foolish and got him killed.

    His sympathy for others was dangerous. There is a saying that when you feel sorry for others, you end up feeling sorry for yourself.

    Where blacks are concerned better to avoid them altogether. Better safe than sorry !

  229. eah says:
    @95Theses

    a fender-bender

    I doesn’t appear it was a “fender-bender”; see comment #92 — it would not be surprising to learn that neither car was drivable after the accident (the perp abandoned the car he was driving at the scene) — in one story someone who either lives nearby or was working at the gas station said there was a lot of speeding in that area — so maybe the speed of the perp contributed to the accident — ?

    One question that has not been asked: apparently the incident happened Monday morning (Jul 22) at 2am in west Detroit — what was this guy doing in that area at that time of the morning? — in another story it just said the accident happened ‘in the early morning’, so I said maybe he was commuting, since he lives in Berkley, which is NW of Detroit — but now that is less likely since not many people are commuting at 2am — ?

    • Replies: @95Theses
  230. Ks says:
    @homer

    No wonder we think Detroit sucks. Every comment on here is crazy. Guess everyone of you are insane and need to have what happened to this young man… happen to you and your family. How terrible to make it ok for this to happen to anyone! Go back to the hole you live in. We like you there

    • Troll: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @bruce county
  231. @Bettrina

    ” racism is still going on …..”

    Actually, racism is still going on because some people believe there should be different sets of rules for different groups of people rather than one set of rules for all individuals. By definition, this condition must exist in order for racism to exist. And, conversely, absent this condition, racism cannot exist.

    I leave the reader to determine who they are.

  232. Tragic event, hopefully the killer will face justice in this life before he does in the afterlife. This reminds me of that couple who went traipsing about in a Muslim dominated part of the world to show that we should all be able to get along. And we know how that ended.

    Detroit is a lost cause as Chicago is quickly becoming as many of our larger cities are becoming. In my youth I believed there was a possibility of racial strife ending. But now I’m an older man living on the outskirts of what is becoming Little Mogadishu, MN having come to the conclusion that the differences between racial groups is too genetically and socially ingrained to overcome.

  233. eah says:

    True enough (this story may yet get more/some national attention…but I still doubt it):

  234. Loren says:
    @homer

    sometimes fools are uneducated –in school of hard knocks.

    years back a handsome aussi moved to detoilet…to grab those cheap houses.
    killed by his tenant.

  235. Loren says:
    @jack daniels

    Then everyone but Tyler walked away as they left him to die.

    did the crowd move in to pick Tylers pockets or steal his car?

  236. Congrats PK for having a story make the headliner. Its funny how this one in particular got so much attention. Yet throwing a child off a 3rd floor balcony is just common news. Maybe … just maybe people are waking up. We will see in the next story..

    • Replies: @eah
  237. Loren says:

    Amy?? You mention Ms Amy?

    Reminds me of the Amy Biehl story from the 90s.

    You didnt mention the most important 2 post murda factoids.

    1] her parents went to afreeka to forgive the tribe. reconcile or whatever. closure?
    2] the media publicized #1 but didnt condemn the killers and parents

    oh
    and the court freed the killers.

  238. “, and work on implementing real solutions to the problem.”

    Getting the courts to reaffirm individual property rights would go a long way towards resolving the issues.

    A person should be free to do what he/she wants with what they own so long as they do not use violence against others.

    The power and authority to discriminate is a good thing (in the true moral sense of the word) and the only way to organize a prosperous, virtuous and peaceful society. Relative to what we have now, anyway.

    • Agree: Sick 'n Tired
  239. Loren says:
    @Malla

    are nigerians in goa to sell drugs to YT?

    remember, M Ghandi was a race realist.
    In afrika his statue was either not placed or removed when the community found he didnt like blacks.

    • Replies: @Malla
  240. eah says:
    @eah

    It seems clear now that an initial question has been answered: did this girl know the guy accused of killing her? — the answer is obviously ‘Yes’.

    Photos Emerge Connecting Kostial, Theesfeld at Social Functions

    • Replies: @Republic
  241. Blacks have low IQ, high testosterone, low impulse control, and the warrior gene.

    All in all, a bad combination.

    Black crime/violence in the USA tracks the same as black crime/violence in Africa.

    Likewise, white crime in the USA tracks about the same as in Europe.

    Whites are brainwashed by the Jmedia to believe that all blacks are like Morgan Freeman movie characters, wise and kind and saintly, while the truth is just the opposite.

    Israel sends soldiers door to door to deport blacks from the country, while jews force race mixing in the western world.

    The nose has weaponized non-whites against whites and it should be obvious at this point.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  242. Loren says:
    @David In TN

    and OJ got off. never served a day for double murder.

    the media can spin Obama [divider] OJ trial or Trayvon as ‘what do these things do to race relations’–spin it, deflect from facts.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  243. By-tor says:
    @Commentator Mike

    You are deciding the outcome of an event before the event takes place. Educating oneself and training with a CCW develops the proper mindset to look for immediate threats and place shots on target if necessary. A properly aware white person commuting in ‘diverse’ and ‘vibrant’ Detroit would have exited the car with his weapon holstered and concealed. Since this Detroit black went into hostile gorilla-fists mode right way, drawing one’s CCW would have put the black on the defensive for a moment, perhaps creating a short standoff and giving one a chance to decide the next move. There is no assured outcome in any self-defense situation, but some preparation offers one a chance of survival when under violent assault, whereas zero preparation leads to severe injury or, in the case of unarmed Tyler Wingate, beaten to death in the middle of a Detroit Street while black people stood by watching.

    • Agree: OEMIKITLOB
  244. @ben sampson

    Ben,

    This happened because Tyler was in the wrong place, Paul pointed that out in his article and commenters are advising others to avoid being in wrong places.

    If a black wanted to go to India to sell drugs wouldn’t you advise him to not not go there as India is full of local drug dealers and they may most likely kill him? Or if a black wanted to go to rape in China wouldn’t you advise him not to bother as they may beat him up and castrate him in the street? Or if a black wanted to go and pick up girls in bars in Sicily, Poland, Greece, Russia where local hard guys hang out what would you advise him? So this guy only wanted to help blacks, apparently, although I have no idea what it was all about, and UR readers are advising other gullible whites not to repeat the same mistake? What’s your problem with that and why are you complaining about Paul posting a warning and others responding favourably to his article?

    • Replies: @bruce county
    , @ben sampson
  245. CCW could have saved this kid, for sure.

    There is ALWAYS an opportunity to draw, and just the sight of a gun usually makes them run.

    Hell, even pepper spray might have saved him. A quick shot in the eyes and that feral negro
    would have been on the ground crying for mommy.

    Sabre sells a very small unit that can be found on Ebay or Amazon for about $9.

  246. Although I tend to agree with many of the above posters that there are more and less dangerous places in America and that one had best use their best judgement to avoid the sort of unfortunate fate that greeted this young man, I’m not going to go so far as to ascribe fault for not only this incident nor any of the, I think, rightful reluctance to travel in deprived neighborhoods strictly to race. I don’t believe that skin color dictates behavior.

    That said, my perspective may be more informed that most as I joined the Marines as an enlisted man in the early ’70s (was pretty much forced to as my lottery number was such that I’d almost certainly be drafted into the Army) and then went on to become an infantry officer.

    There’s a saying in the Marines that every Marine is green, not any other color. And, you know what, that had a certain wisdom to it. And, it allowed me to evaluate my fellows and subordinates on the basis of their individual actions rather than on a preconceived notion of what their mere skin color dictated.

    If many of you don’t know this, the Marines are all volunteer (I think they’ve always been that) and their ranks are absolutely diverse. I’ve commanded and served with Marines from just about every nation on earth and just about every religion, creed or perspective…with honor and appreciation for our differences and for our shared, unyielding unit loyalty.

    Works for me.

    Best,

    David

    • Replies: @D-FENS
    , @Tony Schnee
    , @Piglet
  247. @Mr. Rational

    I was gonna say!!

    I can’t even keep up with the postings!

    I’ll have to go back over everything later on tonight.

    As soon as someone claims to know someone involved, these things take a turn for sure.

  248. @Ks

    No… You need this to happen to one of your family members to see the reality of life in the jungle. I see no other way you idiots will ever understand. But I’m just guessing here; you would likely forgive the parents and the murderous dindu anyway. Perhaps you in all your infinite wisdom and righteousness might even move in the orcs family to grieve with them while their monster has 3 hots and a cot. Its like I’m talking to a stone. There is no one here that wishes bad things to happen to good people. The point/lesson here for most commenters is clear… stay away from black people. If you have been following this site for any time you would see that the stories here are not rare occurrences. This shit happens every day… every where in America where large populations of these feral savages nest. Your holier than thou attitude comes from years of MSM brainwashing, having you believe that every black is a doctor or a lawyer or a scientist. (that is pure science fiction). and years of MSM “not” reporting the truth about black crime. It’s Rampant!!. Wake up!!!… Your pets dont like you regardless of all you pathetic virtue signalling.
    They are not like us. Never will be. Evolution has failed this species.
    If you associate with stupid savages and carry stupid ideals you will win stupid prizes.
    Darwin Awards will come to anyone who believes otherwise.

  249. @Trevor

    LOL. And in India they can do it on the street.

  250. @Jim in Jersey

    The Tueller drill had been proven time and time again to be a falsehood, yet everyone points to it like it’s some sort of bible verse.

    Gunfights are not static. They are fluid and dynamic. There is no truth to the rumor that a holstered handgun is useless if your attacker is within 21 feet. It’s just a fallacy.

    Right, as far as it goes. I took the drill just once. Rule was firearm in holster (advantage) but preliminary notice of attack (disadvantage). I used the “point shooting” technique from Rex Applegate’s _Kill Or Get Killed: A Manual of Hand-to-Hand Fighting_, 1943 (Applegate was WW II OSS). Target was a torso sized iron plate about 25 feet away, at right angles to rusher’s avenue of approach.

    I hurried on my first shot, but hit the plate on the second shot. Applegate’s technique is pretty good for close in shooting, although it can lead to problems with weapons retention. I’d spent a summer learning the method using a 22 semi-automatic pistol against newspaper at 25 yards.

    So, no, the 21 foot rule doesn’t always work, and of course for safety reasons I didn’t try sidestepping. OTH, nobody else in the class got even one hit on the iron plate. Also, I’d owned the pistol I used for about 4 decades, with considerable dry fire and some range work.

    So: The 21 foot rule is primarily to demonstrate that pistols _have- distinct limits in close in fighting. They are not magic wands, as quite a few people (good _and_ bad) think of them).
    In a real fight, of course, things are fluid. Zimmerman did manage to draw and effectively fire when flat on his back being slugged into the concrete. Quite an accomplishment, if you ask me. However, “fluidity” is no more a magic wand than is a pistol.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
  251. 95Theses says:
    @eah

    I didn’t mean that literally, but used that clichéd expression as I meant only to emphasize that it could well have been merely a “fender bender” to risk setting off a tirade of swearing or threats – let alone a beating (or any physical reaction for that matter) – that is waaaay out of proportion to the egregiousness of the offense – since (especially if you are White) it barely requires the mildest perceived slight to justify an act of violence from the hands of the average Black person.

    But you are right to ask what the heck Tyler was doing in that part of Detroit in the wee hours of the morning. Maybe he supposed that the criminal element goes to bed at regular hours and thus was in less danger of assault.

    Nevertheless, in the related Fox story which someone else linked, Davis’ family (typical of these tragedies) was already generating excuses going as far back as his early childhood in defense of his murder of young Mr. Wingate.

    I predict that when Davis is sentenced he will be out of prison in less than 10 years. That intolerable systemic injustice of our Liberally-bent justice system will not change even if the victim’s name were Heather Heyer.

  252. @Commentator Mike

    Perfectly argued and stated. Well done Mike. I’m sure Ben still wont understand. Your rational approach gets them every time.

  253. @Robert Dolan

    Blacks have low IQ,

    No argument there.

    high testosterone,

    No. Their testosterone levels and distributions are not statistically different from similarly aged men of any race. This is a ridiculous belief that needs to stop being repeated. Besides, it would not matter in any case, since testosterone levels have no direct effect on behavior.

    low impulse control,

    This is not a thing. It’s a post hoc reification . Pseudo-concepts like “impulse control” exist only to impart a simulacrum of scientific authority to their authors by wrapping their confusion in a clinical-sounding patois.

    and the warrior gene.

    Again, there is no such thing. But by speaking about it in this way, you make it sound like something desirable. Who wouldn’t want “the warrior gene”? Is the alternative the pussy gene?

    People like you are no different from the black sportsballer worshipers. You still believe everything the mass culture has told you about the superiority of blacks. It’s just that you think the gods are angry rather than benevolent.

    You still have not the sense and the courage to realize that they aren’t freaking gods

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan, El Dato
  254. eah says:
    @bruce county

    Its funny how this one in particular got so much attention.

    It’s not really “funny”; it’s understandable — it was a horrible, savage crime that has rightly outraged many people — also due to the (to date) hypocrisy of the media, ie if the races were reversed it would be getting wall-to-wall national coverage.

    Yet throwing a child off a 3rd floor balcony is just common news.

    No, it wasn’t and is not “common news” — people were disgusted by the heinousness of that crime too — that story received widespread national and even international (I live overseas and saw the story in local news) attention — a gofundme.com appeal for the little boy has since raised well over $1m — Kersey’s initial post on that crime now has 213 comments — so interest/outrage was great there too.

    • Replies: @bruce county
  255. AbleDad says:
    @NC Realist

    He lived in Berkley, a mostly white suburb. He was driving through Detroit City limits, apparently near a gas station with video. People have to drive through Detroit all the time for various reasons. You shouldn’t assume that anyone who has to drive through Detroit is stupid and deserves to die. It’s the criminals that need to die.

    • Agree: Charon
  256. SafeNow says:
    @anon

    Yes, give a wide wide berth.
    Adm. Nimitz, concluding his report on the WWII “Halsey Hurricane” disaster: It is foolish to be grudging about taking precautions because the precautions might turn out to have been unnecessary. The time to take safety precautions is while still able to do so.

  257. D-FENS says:
    @Longfisher

    So these places are more or less safe just due to chance?

    Thank you for protecting our government.

  258. Hey y’all non racists who are upset by all the racist comments here remember number one race is a social construct so it aint real meaning Tyler wasn’t White and the Perp wasn’t Black. So just chill. If these racists were blaming Perp’s actions on The Devil or Unicorns would y’all be up in arms? They all make believe ya feel me?

  259. renfro says:

    These thing are happening every day in the US….why?

    New parents charged with strangling unwanted baby in hospital

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/23/georgia-woman-allegedly-drops-kills-baby-during-fight/
    A young couple strangled their newborn to death in a California hospital just hours after the birth, saying they had never wanted him, according to authorities.

    Georgia woman allegedly drops, kills baby during fight
    https://nypost.com/2019/07/23/georgia-woman-allegedly-drops-kills-baby-during-fight/

    While fighting with another woman in a mall.

  260. @Intelligent Dasein

    You are an idiot.

    Well known fact they DO have higher T, and it causes higher levels of aggressiveness/criminality
    as does the warrior gene, the MAO-A gene which is FACT, not fiction.

    The combination of high T and the MAO-A gene is a positive for physical strength but not good for socialization in a high trust white society.

    I don’t worship them as gods, and my attitude is just the opposite.

    And they do have lower IQ, and I suspect you do too.

  261. @Jim in Jersey

    No offense, but having had to complete and recertify in state defensive tactics courses I can say that’s what I’ve been taught by certified trainers.

    A person with a knife drawn can close the distance of ~20 feet quite quickly. How long does a knife need to be to be considered lethal? A 2″ blade can kill.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
  262. @eah

    A little over the top aren’t we… I m here almost every day.. we are on the same side.

    • Replies: @eah
  263. 95Theses says:
    @AshtonS

    To your comment generally, but the latter part especially, the rubber-meets-the-road test deserves to be underscored. Experience both personal and public has shown that blacks will very nearly always side-up with “their people” no matter how incriminating the evidence may be against the guilty/accused, and even more disturbingly will revel in celebration when the judge or jury renders a an unjust verdict.

    As in this story from a poster who goes by DoubleThinkNot:

    My [black] friend and I were at work together on the day the verdict came in from the O.J. Simpson trial. As soon as the verdict was announced he started dancing and cheering. I had already become extremely dismayed at the fact that this, supposedly educated man, a man I cared for, would believe that O.J. was framed. When he celebrated the acquittal, I was stunned. My good friend had just celebrated the acquittal of an obvious murderer. He was not just happy about the not guilty verdict. He was ecstatic. I could never reconcile this event with the loving, caring man I thought I knew. He actually told me that the reason blacks were happy about the not guilty verdict, was that it was payback for past wrongs done them by whites . It was obvious to all white people that this was the way blacks felt, but for this man to embrace that idea seemed outlandish. He saw this reaction by blacks as logical. I saw it (by white standards) as, borderline insane.
    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/022173.html

    Or this, from Irv P:

    This is EXACTLY what happened to me on the day O.J. Simpson was acquitted. I had dozens of black colleagues who were supposed to be educated and intelligent (I was a teacher in an all black school). What did I see in the main office when the school day ended? People jumping up and down for joy, literally screaming with glee…people who I had worked with for years and TRUSTED. My life changed when I realized what a hoax they had been perpetrating on the white folks there. They HATE us, pure and simple…and that changed everything for me. I went from naive schnook to worldly cynic instantly.
    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/011999.html#irv

    A. Zarkov laments:

    My daughter went to an elite college preparatory middle and high school. While the school was mostly white it did have some middle class black students, and for the most part they fit in perfectly. But my daughter was stunned at the different response the black students had to the announcement of O.J. Simpson verdict. They cheered. Not a single white student cheered. These students were the sons and daughters of fairly well-to-do black professionals living in nice houses in good neighborhoods. In other words, they lived and worked in the white world yet they still had the “us versus them” attitude found among ghetto blacks.
    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/013604.html

    And finally, from the late, great Lawrence Auster:

    Whites (including myself) had been staggered by blacks’ joy over the O.J. Simpson verdict. It was potentially a moment of a historical white awakening to the actual anti-white racism, not to say the savagery, in the black community. But this moment of awakening was short-circuited by the media’s way of playing it, as a “gap” between two races that had such different “experiences” of life that they couldn’t comprehend each other. This script, which was imposed on all further discussions of the issue, including innumerable talking heads shows on tv where blacks and whites would “debate” each other, forced the whites away from their initial, instinctive reaction, which was outraged shock at blacks’ behavior, to a situation in which the whites’ shock and the blacks’ racial vengeance became the moral equivalent of each other, with whites having to concede that they hadn’t had the experiences in life that would enable them to understand why blacks felt the way they felt, even as the whites would pathetically reach out to the blacks and try to get them to understand why the verdict was wrong.
    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/005904.html

    I know, I know – the citations are all from VFR, but the comments are stellar. And, I think, pretty much representational of the views here.

    If possible, relationships should be cordial – but given the generally poor state of affairs since the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, I don’t see how it’s possible to cultivate deep friendships that will transcend the racial barrier. Not saying it never happens, but there a precious few with whom I would be willing to break bread.

    • Replies: @David In TN
  264. @Intelligent Dasein

    The warrior gene is so widely known that Wikipedia has an entry about it. It is known as the MAOA gene, but commonly referred to as the Warrior Gene.

    If you claim it does not exist, then your argument is not with Robert Dolan, but with genetic scientists.

  265. Wayne says:
    @anarchyst

    A product of Baltimore in the 50’s and 60’s. I now live in rural southern PA. Same scenario.

  266. The MAO-A gene is a scientific fact ( as is high T in black males) that causes high levels of aggressive behavior and is directly related to criminality.

    Stefan Molyneux has gone over this in great detail, but there are numerous clips on YT dealing with these issues.

    Also, low IQ is another marker for criminality for all races, but black IQ tends to be on the lower side which corresponds with higher levels of crime.

    And to add fuel to the fire, the Jmedia constantly demonizes white people to incite the black community.

    I have no idea how these facts can be turned into the idea that blacks are gods to be worshiped.

  267. eah says:
    @bruce county

    little over the top aren’t we…

    Sorry, I just thought your comment was dumb: that’s the problem here dude — is calling out a dumb comment more “over the top” than the dumb comment itself? — that’s the question — I don’t see the point of making a dumb comment about the savage beating death of this poor guy — I also found your remark about the MN case to be in questionable taste (as far as I know the boy is still hospitalized and it is not clear at all he will be able to lead a normal life).

    we are on the same side.

    OK.

    • Replies: @bruce county
  268. @anarchyst

    Absolutely it’s cultural. I wouldn’t dare to compare to Blacks, but anyone who has lived near Chinese see a similar picture, while Japanese tend to be as, or more fastidious than Whites.
    My cousin used to joke about his Polish grandmother’s house being so clean that you could eat off the carpet.

  269. @Robert Dolan

    ID is mostly right.

    T-levels are the same across the races.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17456570

    Serum estrogen, but not testosterone, levels differ between black and white men in a nationally representative sample of Americans.

    As for “warrior gene”, this is a quack science. There are different types of MAOA & no conclusion can be derived from it. Even more, blacks are anything but “warriors”- war being a serious business, and blacks were & would be defeated in any altercation with whites, Asians etc.

    They have no martial culture. Hell-they have no culture at all.

    And yes- they’re dumb.

  270. Franklin Ryckaert: “Racism= harming people of another race because of their race.

    Race realism = realizing that races are inherently different and avoiding risky situations with people of other races.”

    Or in other words, racists do what “race realists” would do if they had the courage.

    • Agree: Adûnâi
    • Replies: @Augustus
  271. @95Theses

    Thanks for the comments from the site of the late, great Lawrence Auster.

    “He actually told me the reason blacks were happy about the not guilty verdict, was that it was payback for past wrongs done them by whites.”

    Well, well. By that criteria Fred Goldman was entitled to take a gun and shoot every black he saw.

    • Replies: @95Theses
  272. Moi says:
    @Boomer Realist

    Prioritizing the order of whose asses should be kissed based on minority status:

    *Jews
    *Blacks aka African Americans
    *Illegal immigrants
    *Latinos
    *LGBTIQ

  273. @mike6972

    In choosing a retirement destination, I’m afraid that my choice will be driven almost entirely by demographics. I had hoped to escape from the cold, but it looks like the safest demographics are in cold, rural areas.

    I just retired and my wife wants to stay in our northeastern rural area (where all of her church-lady friends are).

    As I looked at the alternatives in warmer climes I started to realize that we may be better off if I just go with the flow and agree to stay where we are.

    Our town hasn’t had a major crime in the memory of any living person–and of course we have more moose families than black families.

    When you are elderly security has to be priority number 1.

  274. prawda [AKA "scard"] says:

    In 1975 my elderly 63 mother on her way to work as a cleaning woman was robbed and beaten by three black male teenages going under the underground crossing at Fields MBTA Station Corner in Boston.
    When she refused to hand over her handbag the black males pushed her down the stairs attacked her, kicked her, punched her, stomped on her because she did not turn over her handbag to them. All of this while they were lauughing and joking as they were attacking her.
    She suffered broken wrist, broken arm, dislocated shoulder, bruises and cuts on her face and hands.
    None of her attackers were ever caught, found or ever charged with any crime.

    My sister was attacked at the Boston Airport Blue line Subway Station on one Sunday in the early evening on her way home from work in 1980’s by three black male teenagers who demanded her pocketbook. When she did not hand it over to them they attacked and punched and then pushed into the train tracks. Again her attackers were never caught or tried in court. She suffered cuts and bruises and taken to the hospital. She has since never recovered from traumatic experience since that attack.

    In 1983 I was attacked by a group of young blacks standing by the entrance staircase to the Boylston Street Green Line MBTA station. When I refused to hand over the money they attempted to punch me and push me down the stairs. The MBTA starter saw this taking place and did not attempt to assist me in getting away from this gang of Black kids. He in fact ran into the cubicle and locked the door.

    • Replies: @eah
  275. @TKK

    TKK—– Post 190 The current politically correct term is front hole.Absolutely,positively,100% accurate is no excuse.

  276. Malla says:
    @Loren

    remember, M Ghandi was a race realist.

    Yes very true.

    • Replies: @Pepe the Frog
  277. @Robert Dolan

    Well known fact they DO have higher T,

    The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology disagrees with you there. But I’m sure you know more about the subject than they do—you read a Sailer piece once!

    and it causes higher levels of aggressiveness/criminality as does the warrior gene, the MAO-A gene which is FACT, not fiction.

    There is no evidence that the short version of the MAOA gene has any behavioral effect whatsoever.

  278. eah says:
    @prawda

    The MBTA starter saw this taking place and did not attempt to assist me in getting away from this gang of Black kids. He in fact ran into the cubicle and locked the door.

    MA has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the US — meaning criminals can pretty much assume their victim won’t be armed.

  279. @eah

    I feel for both those kids and their families. Both horrific tragedies… both at the hands of a savage beast.
    So please don’t assume a god damned thing!!! Its rare on here I see another commenter on the same team calling out some one based on what their view or their interpretation of some one elses comment is. It couldn’t have been too dumb since you are the only one who insists that it is.
    My intent wasn’t to draw ire. It was simply an observation. I make no excuses or apologies for what I write to you that you may find offensive. The same goes for or any other pompous prick on here that wants flap their gums over nothingness.
    You are entitled to your opinion. Thank you very much.
    Have a good day Sir/Ma’am.

  280. ….annnnnnnnd CRICKETS from any other media. Prevailing opinion at NYT: payment accepted for his white privilege. This is why you carry.

  281. No place where the majority of the population is colored people is “rising.”

    • Replies: @Feedsackroad
  282. Republic says:
    @eah

    There is a very interesting angle to this story. Found it in the comments section of The Daily Mail. Out of respect for the dead woman I will not repeat it here. A very common rumor around the Old Miss campus

    • Replies: @eah
    , @eah
  283. @Counterinsurgency

    Not saying you control the ‘fluidity’, just that it is. If you stand in one place while someone charges, they will catch you and bowl you over. If you sidestep, put an object between you and your attacker or deflect the attack upon approach you will add more than enough time to deal with an approaching threat.

    I thought of Zimmerman as well but he is a bad reference point since his opponent made contact with him. Had Trevon been armed, Zimmerman would likely have been killed and the entire story would have turned out differently.

    I’ve shot drills as well and they do what they’re supposed to, which is add stress to an otherwise textbook learning method.

    Get yourself a good training pistol and some friends and train in just the physical aspect of defense with a gun. Learn how to protect your pistol during your drawstroke, use your non-dominant hand to deflect attacks, get to your pistol after someone takes you to the ground…

    Having a pistol for defense is a huge responsibility. Learning to employ it in all types of situations in all kinds of lighting with either hand, etc., is what separates a gunfighter from a pistol shooter.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  284. @De'Tastrophe

    If the gun-toter doesn’t see him or stands like a statue or does nothing at all, yes.

    If he evaded, sidesteps, places an obstacle between himself and his attacker then he can add precious seconds to his draw time.

    It’s a drill. That’s all it is. Not a mandate. Not a decision. If you are aware of a knife wielding attacker as you exit your vehicle, it takes no thought at all to circle around and put the car between you as you draw your firearms.

    Stop thinking you’re a stationary block of wood. And stop training like it.

  285. JamesinNM says:

    Lincoln intended to deport all slaves after the Civil War because he believed the slaves’ culture was so different that they would never assimilate in America. Culture, not color is the reason. Never too late to remove them from America.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
  286. The first direct link between common MAO-A alleles and violence in humans came from Caspi et al 2002. This study found that people with either the 2R or 3R version of the MAO-A gene tended to be more aggressive than average, but only if they had difficult upbringings. Based on these results, it was hypothesized that low activity MAO-A genes might cause people to have stronger reactions to negative experiences than people high high activity versions of the gene. Since then, a meta-analyses has confirmed that this interaction between MAO-A genotype and childhood trauma has been well replicated in male subjects (Bryd and Manuch 2013).

  287. anarchyst says:
    @Bettrina

    You are correct in your statement that “racism is still going on”. However, it is blacks who have always harbored racist attitudes, not whites.
    Whites have been “purified” from “racism” for quite a long time, yet, the “stigma” of being white still pervades the “civil-rights (for some)” crowd as black failures are always blamed on whites, not their own stupidity and dysfunctionality.
    Whites are still not permitted to point out dysfunctional black behavior, or for that matter, behavior of any other racial group, without incurring the wrath of black or other racial groups.
    I personally witnessed black dysfunctionality growing up. Despite the opportunities to get a good education, black students goofed off, caused trouble, made learning difficult for those who were there to learn, and caused the decline of the Detroit public schools by their own misbehavior.
    To this day, reading and math scores are near the bottom in the Detroit schools due to black dysfunctionality.
    There, I’ve said it…let the brickbats fly…

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  288. Prophet says: • Website

    The biggest mistake you can make is stopping and getting out of your car in Detroit. We were told not to even pull over for a Cop in parts of the city.

  289. eah says:
    @Republic

    Aha — OK, well, I guess it will come out eventually — just saw the coroner confirms she was shot — the suspect’s father says he’s innocent (for what that’s worth) and implies he can substantiate that — however the accused was arrested at a gas station in Memphis, so it’s not clear why he was there other than he was fleeing — ? — also he has been formally charged, so they must have evidence against him.

  290. @Sir Launcelot Canning

    No place where the majority of the population is colored people is “rising.”

    Nor are they flushing. Give them indoor plumbing and they clog up the works.

     ‘City of Albany: Grease balls and rags related to cause of latest sewage spill’

    July 24 at 12:38 AM

    ALBANY, Ga. (WALB) – An Albany official said it was difficult to remove big grease balls that clogged a pipe and caused 30,000 gallons of sewage to spill.

    The sewage leaked into the Percosin Canal after the spill on Saturday.

    The sound of the bypass pumps radiated through an Albany neighborhood as neighbors said a bad smell lingered in their noses.

    “This odor from the sewage, I can’t even sit out in the yard and I love sitting in the yard. Me and my grandson love sitting out in the yard and we just can’t do it,” said resident James Terry…

    https://www.walb.com/2019/07/24/city-albany-grease-balls-rags-related-cause-latest-sewage-spill/

  291. lavoisier says: • Website
    @anarchyst

    I experienced the same thing as a child growing up in Chicago.

    Entire neighborhoods decimated and housing values in free fall.

    It is very sad but very true: Anyone who is not racist is either totally delusional or a liar.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  292. @JamesinNM

    Please elaborate as none of us here have been able to figure out how to actually go about stripping citizens of their citizenship and expatriating them to a foreign country.

    Maybe you know something new.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  293. eah says:
    @Republic

    There is a very interesting angle to this story.

    So now I think I have an idea what you are referring to — as I said, it (or whatever the truth is) will come out eventually — like you I will not mention it here.

  294. Anonymous[208] • Disclaimer says:

    The black suspect in this murder, involved in the traffic accident, has no drivers license nor did he own the car he was driving. Typical accident in the dirty, disgusting city of Detroit. No license, no insurance, stolen car.

  295. Asif Khan says:

    So sad and senseless may he Rest In Peace
    My condolences to his family and friends

  296. Charon says:
    @Dave453

    I know a girl who wanted to move there because “there’s so much potential.”

    She watches a lot of TV and movies and firmly believes that blacks are good and whites are bad (she’s white).

    Tried to talk her out of it and it may have worked because she moved to Ann Arbor instead. Since I care about her, I had to do it but since she’d definitely call me a Nazi if she knew half my views I sort of wonder.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    , @Augustus
  297. @Blue Juice

    My parents met one of our oldest family friends, an African-American guy, because they stopped to help as he was stuck with a broken-down car in a rainstorm.

    We have/had roughly the same political and social views — never “culturally left” or “multicultural”, certainly NOT in favor of intermarriage with Africans — and have had very frightening and offensive experiences at the hands of Africans — yet it would be unthinkable to any of us to hurt a man who has broken form or had an accident, no matter who is at fault. His race would play zero role. “Fair is fair” and “we’d want some to help us if we needed it” was what my Dad said then.

    Tough when we don’t confirm to stereotype. But the guy who murdered this poor white guy did.

  298. AshtonS says:

    Excellent point and thank you! VFR was a great source and Lawrence Auster is deeply missed.

    The O.J. verdict was an eye opener for me as well. I was a high school senior in a very liberal (and overwhelmingly white) college town. I came from a liberal family and was quite liberal myself; although I always had some vague race realist inclinations I kept to myself. In any event, my school was probably about 10% black (which was very diverse for the city). O.J. was a huge topic of discussion, casually and even in some classes. Almost all the black kids thought he was innocent or, even if he did it, it was ‘justice’ for what blacks had suffered. Some specifically mentioned retribution for the Susan Smith case (which was going on at the same time). For those who don’t remember, Susan Smith was a white woman who murdered her two little boys and then told police a black man did it. Her story fell apart pretty quickly, she was tried, convicted and imprisoned. No black man was ever even charged in the case. Yet to some of my black classmates, Smith’s mere defaming black men was grounds for O.J. going free.

    The lesson I learned was that blacks are fiercely tribal and defensive of their own. They will rationalize almost any atrocious behavior by other blacks, often by blaming white people, however much it may strain credulity. This is true regardless of the socioeconomic or education level of any given black. It is also true of many so-called black “conservatives”. There are a few exceptions, notably Thomas Sowell, Jesse Lee Peterson, Tommy Sotomayor and Sheriff David Clarke, but they are a microscopically small few. And in any case none of them have any influence in ‘da community’

    This is reality. I absorbed it as much as my 17 year old brain could then, but it took many more years for me to truly understand. I’m glad I have, and I’m deeply grateful to be married to an amazing white woman who also understands this reality. I’m also hopeful that more whites are coming to understand… albeit painstakingly slowly.

    • Agree: 95Theses, Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  299. Rich says:
    @Richard B

    Amen. It’s always those who live furthest from blacks who believe the most in liberal orthodoxy. As terrible as it is, the present push to put blacks in White suburbia, is going to either wake these mooks up, or signal that Whitey is done.

  300. JamesinNM: “Lincoln intended to deport all slaves after the Civil War because he believed the slaves’ culture was so different that they would never assimilate in America.”

    That’s not true at all. In his last public address before being assassinated, Lincoln called for hundreds of thousands of them to be made citizens and given the vote. Further, any “deportation” was all to be voluntary. Forcibly rounding the negroes up and shipping them off whether they wanted to go or not was never even under discussion.

    • Replies: @anon
  301. Rich says:
    @Bettrina

    Children are taught not to run into the street, not to play with matches, not to run with scissors. If they do these things, it’s not because they aren’t good kids, it’s because they didn’t listen. If no one told him to avoid Negroes, those responsible for his upbringing were wrong, if he was told, but thought he knew better, he just wasn’t all that smart. It’s wrong even when not so smart White folks are killed. That’s why we used to have Jim Crow and segregation. Isn’t integration great? How many have to die before people open their eyes?

    • Agree: bruce county
    • Replies: @eah
  302. Augustus says:
    @cassandra

    He may well have made a capitalist choice, somehow planning to make money, but if he thought it a capitalistic choice to move to the socialist utopia of BRA, it was a fatal decision. It was NOT a smart move.

    • Replies: @cassandra
  303. I wonder how the spectators will spend their reparations checks.

    And still the Dem faithful wonder why more than 1/2 of white women vote Republican.

  304. Loren says:
    @SaneClownPosse

    Blacks who live in Berkley are not the same as Blacks who dwell in Detroit.

    yes they are.

    • Agree: Dr. Pepper, brandybranch
  305. Loren says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Okay, Mr Neil Tyson Jr, why are ‘they’ so violent?
    ever read “negroes in Negroland?’

    how about

    https://qz.com/744493/a-9-year-old-black-girl-is-officially-the-smartest-person-in-the-marvel-universe/

  306. Dani says:
    @NC Realist

    Oh, thank goodness…relief spilled over me as I read your comment and took note of your calling the “believed in the city and knew it would continue to rise” remark for the blatant absurdity it is, for those grounded in reality.
    I also feel the need to make mention of the growing number of some damned good websites/blogs/video channels that focus specifically and relentlessly on black on white crime in both the USA and other former predominantly white first world nations. They are all a little different and some are not for everyone but tastes aside, these sites all share an admirable pursuit of truth and work hard to bring it all. It still continues to feel surreal to me even after several years, to read story after story that begs to be front page national news getting, in most cases, what amounts to zero coverage on even the “conservative” channels, such as, ah-hem, Fox.
    It is disturbing to see over and over again that when a story gets no coverage, it can almost seem to cease to exist. Can all of these innocent people being slaughtered really be dead if nobody knows about it other then their grieving families?

    • Replies: @Alden
  307. Dani says:
    @homer

    homer, not sure what video library you are speaking of (or if I already have it?) but please count me i for this. Thank you.

  308. Dani says:
    @anarchyst

    That was compelling to read and yet again, I find myself feeling almost heartbroken and nostalgic over another American city I always wanted to visit but never did and now know never will. I read a message like yours and my intelligence and logic tell me there is nothing “off color” or “racist” in your words, yet feel some apprehension and even anxiety as I read it, because I immediately know this would hit all of the markers for “hate speech” for even the most “open-minded, conservative black people”.
    Truth has always been my biggest pet peeve – even the seemingly insignificant, stupid stuff. We are in serious trouble & my glasses are off because I am starting to realize it is people like us that are in a small minority and insanity seems to be gaining ground steadily and soon clown world will be here to stay.

  309. @jack daniels

    +100

    What is sad, is these young people have been indoctrinated so badly by the liberal education system and have no idea how dangerous the situation actually is and naively drive through one of these exceedingly dangerous areas that are even dangerous for blacks, let alone a young white guy.

  310. @Jim in Jersey

    Have you heard of “unprovoked attack” or seen a bar brawl? Planning and practicing for such is not of much use. Guns can help but it’s rare that a person can draw in situations when he can be attacked from any angle even from behind. I used to read self-defence advice by US experts who used to advise that if you get into a physical fight you shouldn’t stop until the opponent is down and unconscious or dead precisely because he could draw a gun and shoot you as has happened to some fighters there. Of course the best is to avoid all trouble.

  311. @Jim in Jersey

    Please elaborate as none of us here have been able to figure out how to actually go about stripping citizens of their citizenship and expatriating them to a foreign country.

    Perhaps you have not followed the stories of “Nazi prison camp workers” who received US citizenship but were later stripped of same and deported based on questionable identifications.  Some of these people were practical invalids in their 80s and 90s.

    We have much greater cause to remove citizenship from and deport black criminals.  The number of acts which qualify as “hate crimes” is staggering.  We need to recognize, prosecute and recolonize them.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  312. @Charon

    it may have worked because she moved to Ann Arbor instead.

    Send her the stories about the retired professor who was murdered by a black burglar near Briarwood mall, and the earlier story about the (med school?) student who was murdered in his apartment building near Central Campus a few years earlier.

    I’m not sure where to find a list of all murders in Ann Arbor, but if those two are a substantial fraction of the total over the duration it might be a bit more of a red pill for her.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  313. In the Steve Utash case, the man probably will be handicapped for the rest of his life, but his black assailant got 6 years, 4 months to 10 years; and the other got probation.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/two-sentenced-in-mob-beating-of-detroit-michigan-motorist-steven-utash/

    In the case of Tyler, the thinking would probably free the negro man because his ancestors were slaves, or black whatever the case may be! A white life doesn’t mean much anymore to the left.

    The negroes who murdered Amy Biehl got their city a big grant for negro students to study. One of the negroes who killed her is part of the group.

    • Replies: @Pepe the Frog
    , @Anon
  314. Druid says:
    @anon19

    Low IQ, instant gratification, 2 dimensional thinking, high testosterone levels, false delusions of intelligence with inappropriate use age of certain words, etc.

  315. Druid says:
    @Republic

    A detective patient of mine here in the NW said it was 50percent. Surprised me that it was so low!

  316. Augustus says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Maybe think of it as harm on one hand, and separation on the other.

  317. @Commentator Mike

    GUIDE TO US RACIAL DIFFERENCES FOR A BRIT

    White situations are usually alcohol-related. I had a British friend in Dubai who-very stupidly-had gone into a New York City Irish-American bar as a back backer years before. The usual Anglo-Irish American tensions occurred. He was pushed around a bit but was young and escaped trouble simply by walking swiftly out of the pub. None of the drunken Irish-Americans with bellies full of beer were going to catch up to him.

    While this sort of a “racial situation” my British backpacking friend was in with the Irish-American welfare drunks in a seedy bar, he was able to get away from it merely by walking quickly.

    With blacks it is far different. Even blacks who never exercised in their life and live on a diet of KFC buckets, menthol cigarettes and Malt liquor are very fast and fairly strong. Your average black crackhead who smokes weed all day can jump as high and run as fast as your average white PE instructor who has kept himself in peak physical condition.

    In cases like Zimmerman where the white is able to withdraw the firearm and use it, he has still been beaten up so badly by the black that he had to immediately be hospitalized. People forget that Martin, a seventeen year old black, easily overpowered a grown white man and was on top of the white guy beating him badly when he got an arm free and managed to pull the trigger. And Martin was only seventeen.

    Also, bear in mind Zimmerman was an ex-soldier and security consultant who had studied unarmed combat for years.

    There is a reason why average whites who go to prison for some accidental offense like a drunk driving accident or sex with a 16 year old girl who looked 25 then end up being passed around for candy bars and drugs by black inmates. Not all of course. Blacks generally don’t want to have sex with some fat hulking 50 year old Tony Soprano type or a vicious biker of the Jax Teller mold. But ordinary whites are little more than sex dolls in prison.

    If you are facing an assault by blacks the best thing to do-and I mentioned this long ago on Return o f Kings-is to run for bushes or a culvert. Your life means so little to inner-city blacks that they generally won’t get dirty pursuing you through thick undergrowth or into a filthy drain with running water. You’ll get dirty of course, but three hours later you can wash your clothes in the laundry. By then, the black has forgotten about you, his mind adrift on booze and drugs.

    The upside of a conflict with a black is you’ll never see him again. If you cross the likes of a white mobster like Whitey Bulger, you won’t be safe anywhere. Bulger ordered deaths of those who fled to Miami and one Irish-American who fled to Ireland (Where Bulger subcontracted the execution to the IRA who were heavily involved with him).

    Another words, if you do escape a conflict from a black, even serious. You’ll never see him again because blacks lack the initiative to leave the inner-city. They don’t have the gasoline money and cannot hunt down a white because they are illiterate.

    Should you cross a Tony Soprano, move to Nepal and pray he never finds you.

    This is why black-on-white violence is restricted to chance encounters. However, unless you have done what De Niro did and built a slide attaching your gun to your arm, you may not be able to reach it in time
    And again, this is why white taxi drivers construct such a device.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Alden
  318. anon[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Wrong. This is what Lincoln said:

    What next? Free them, and make them politically and socially our equals? My own feelings will not admit of this; and if mine would, we well know that those of the great mass of white people will not. Whether this feeling accords with justice and sound judgment, is not the sole question, if, indeed, it is any part of it. A universal feeling, whether well or ill-founded, cannot be safely disregarded. We cannot, then, make them equals.

    Abraham Lincoln
    October 16, 1854: Speech at Peoria, Illinois

  319. anon[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    > There is no evidence…

    Don’t read much science, do you, Jew?

    “Studies find that darker pigmented people average higher levels of aggression and sexual activity (and also lower IQ).”

    http://sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912000840

  320. Vsevolod says:

    Has anyone read the white kid’s twitter account? Not to be insensitive but the guy was a stoner who constantly romanticized ghetto trash culture and often tweeted about police brutality against blacks as well as complaining about white people.

    @_Tyler_Wingate for those curious

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  321. @lavoisier

    I’m from Chicago too. We lived one block north of the northern border of Englewood. Then,itvwas a fantastic plsce. Now…

    • Replies: @The Village
  322. eah says:
    @jack daniels

    There would be next to zero problem with nonwhites at home or abroad if not for our stridently anti-white secular Jewish intellectuals and activists.

    Oh come on man, you cannot be serious — do you know who Malcolm X was? — do you think black criminality will miraculously decline? — that ‘the gap’ is going to disappear and one day ‘real soon’ Blacks will have the same average SES as Whites?

    I won’t deny that the obvious political anti-whiteness in the media is a big problem; but one can ask: how many dumb ghetto Blacks (like the one who killed this poor kid) actually pay much attention to it and are heavily influenced by it?

    The problems of ‘diversity’, including/especially the co-existence of Whites and Blacks in the same polity, are caused by HBD: the inherent average differences between racial groups, which are largely genetic — changing the tone of the media, which needs to happen, is not going to fix that.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  323. eah says:
    @Rich

    If no one told him to avoid Negroes, those responsible for his upbringing were wrong,…

    It was a fucking traffic accident man, and his behavior afterward appears to have been perfectly normal: he got out of his car (which was probably no longer drivable) to check on the damage, on the condition of the people in the other car, and exchange insurance info — what the hell does that have to do with his “upbringing” and ‘avoiding Negroes’? — he lived in Berkley, MI, which is NW of Detroit, and 90% white.

    Like I said above, an interesting open question is: What was he doing in that area at that time of the morning? — but there is no reason to believe this poor guy was in any way at fault.

    Some of the comments here are on the loony side.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Alden
  324. eah says:

  325. Truth3 says:

    OJ proved that American Negroes do not think in terms of universal justice… but only Tribal terms.

    They share with the Jews this all consuming trait that colors all other things.

    This is why they are both so toxic to the country they parasitically occupy.

  326. @Commentator Mike

    Agree. The only plan that would help in a bar bar brawl would have been a plan to stay out of the bar.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  327. @Jim in Jersey

    Sounds fine for you, Commenter Mike… you’ve surrendered and I understand that.

    A man has to know limitations, as Harry Callahan says.

    The fight rarely ends with the first punch, kick or even shot. Unprovoked attack? Bar fight? All attacks are unprovoked in my opinion and why would you be carrying while drinking in a bar?

    It sounds like you just use bad judgement and assume everyone else follows suit.

    If you’re armed, you’re not drinking. If you’re armed, you’re not mouthing off in public trying to ‘show who’s boss’.

    A firearm is the ultimate tool in a life or death altercation but it is not the only tool not should it be used for all circumstances.

    You don’t draw if you can just avoid.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  328. @Jim in Jersey

    Get yourself a good training pistol and some friends and train in just the physical aspect of defense with a gun. Learn how to protect your pistol during your drawstroke, use your non-dominant hand to deflect attacks, get to your pistol after someone takes you to the ground.

    What I actually do is use the two stage draw (draw, level firearm while keeping it close to the body and holster to support quick shots at a person within a foot or so of you, followed by flash sight if there is time) with pocket knives (Griptillion, high cost version for a more dependable cut) for the ground fight. Retain firearm with one hand, use locking pocket knife with other hand. Not very good, I know, but my reasons appear below.

    Your advice is very good, and it points out a very important thing about carrying: considerable training and practice are required to make it effective. The way things are going, I’d even propose routing wearing of a Level # anti-stab vest, which I occasionally do, to give some protection against stray rounds and stealthy knife attacks.

    However, we’re moving into “professional gunfighter” qualifications here. That’s a profession in itself: it runs into money and time and work that can’t be applied to economically productive activities. I’ve spent considerable time and money bringing military skills to civil gun-fighting standards, but I can’t afford to become a real gunfighter, just (maybe) good enough to defeat an untrained assailant. If I spent that much time and effort, I’d be ineffective professionally.
    As it is, I end up carrying about 25 pounds of various gear (it’s the local deputy sheriff’s standard load) when entering into dangerous areas, and sometimes when entering in safe areas (although without a vest usually) just to keep equipment familiarity up. Without the vest, this panoply of heavy equipment gives no protection (as you’ve pointed out) from a simple knife attack from the rear.

    Fact is, there isn’t any practical way to compensate for general lawlessness simply by being armed or even by being armored. You can get better odds, scare off some attacks, disengage more easily, win (I’ve been told) about half the actual gun fights, but it’s not the same as walking around in a safe area with no gear at all. In fact, I’m not sure how somebody with a simple 48 hour professional work week could possibly learn how to fight well enough to make a difference in a lawless area. Even the mindset takes a few year’s immersion to acquire — before that, it’s all just a game. Afterwards it becomes a chore [1].

    What’s needed is the sort of safe areas we had just a few decades ago, so that we can get on with the important things. Arms in a lawless area are analogous to a bandage on a wound — the bandage is important, even necessary, but you’d rather just not have the wound.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] Classic cartoon: person is standing a clearing in the woods, with complete foot patrolling gear (harness, grenade, rifle, ammunition, small pack), talking to a clergyman. Caption: “You don’t understand, Padre. I’m the local pacifist.”

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
  329. OhZone says:
    @Jack Again

    Expect to see more of this as white populations decline. Look at South Africa since they ended apartheid. Whites are being murdered by blacks every day. More than 70,000 since. Blacks are allowed to openly call for killing whites. The brown people do not like us. The Muslims are here to take over. In short – we are totally screwed.

  330. @Mr. Rational

    excellent rebuttal-thank you.

  331. @Counterinsurgency

    COUNTER

    Attacks by blacks and Hispanics usually don’t happen in bars. And the worst attacks by other whites usually happen in the parking lot outside bars.

    Black and Hispanic crimes are on the street and random, sudden events. There is no prior history to them. Not even words exchanged in a bar.

    The white guy is usually assaulted before a conversation takes place. He is not ready for it. Often it is for financial gang or boredom. The black or Hispanic assailant doesn’t care about him or know him, he just assaults him for money or out of boredom.

    It is mostly territorial. The white has found themselves in a bad area. Which comes back to your advice about not being in bad areas or going into a bar.

    This cuts much of the risk but not all of it. At any rate, most black and Hispanic attacks are in public. Night is more common but they can occur in broad daylight.

    Blacks and Hispanics don’t care about jail. They’ve been there before, they are accepting of the fact that they will be there again. They like jail. Free food and a room. It is not like they live better in their Section 8 hovels or crack houses or barrios. Now that prison is privatized, it even has air conditioners. That is better than they get on the outside.

    If you shoot a black or Hispanic you have a serious problem.

    You need to get bail fast. ASAP. Because word will spread around the jail that you shot a black or Hispanic. Chances are his friends are in jail with you.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
    , @Alden
  332. @Commentator Mike

    I don’t understand: I put up a response to this last night. it was right there waiting on moderation but its not there today.

    I did not swear or use any bad language, cursed anyone… just pointed out that Mr Wingate wasn’t too smart and you guys should acknowledge, stop making a saint of him.

    but that post isnt here this morning! maybe the mods thought it was irrelevant. I hope this one gets through

  333. @anarchyst

    I can agree more with you my friend.
    Been a wolverine back on the early ’90s and commuting often to Detroit, from Ann-Arbor, I notice the distraction of a beautiful and elegant city by the blacks. You see beautiful houses on Jefferson Ave. deserted, while a few miles north to the Gross Point villages, were million dollar houses built by whites.
    If you ask me what went wrong with Detroit at this time, I ‘ll say…. Coleman Young.

  334. “Wrong. This is what Lincoln said:”

    If you believe that’s what he really thought, you’re an imbecile.

    This is what he said in his final public address.

    “The amount of constituency, so to speak, on which the new Louisiana government rests, would be more satisfactory to all, if it contained fifty, thirty, or even twenty thousand, instead of only about twelve thousand, as it does. It is also unsatisfactory to some that the elective franchise is not given to the colored man. I would myself prefer that it were now conferred on the very intelligent, and on those who serve our cause as soldiers. … The colored man too, in seeing all united for him, is inspired with vigilance, and energy, and daring, to the same end. Grant that he desires the elective franchise, will he not attain it sooner by saving the already advanced steps toward it, than by running backward over them?”
    – Abraham Lincoln, last public address, Washington, D.C., April 11, 1865

    Widely suspected during his lifetime of being an abolitionist, a charge he always denied, in the days before his assassination Lincoln showed his true colors and supported giving negroes both citizenship and the vote. John Wilkes Booth was in attendance at this speech, and was it was this call for extending citizenship and the vote to negroes that enraged Booth enough to vow on the spot to assassinate him.

    • Replies: @Piglet
    , @Jim in Jersey
  335. @Longfisher

    David, did you notice the same thing about the Marine Corps, that I noticed about the US Army? Infantry , mostly white and Hispanic, armor more white some Hispanic, and artillery damned near all white. In the US Army as you enter the Airborne/Ranger/SF community the whiter it gets.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Piglet
  336. Augustus says:
    @Charon

    Psychologists will tell you it’s not possible to protect suicidal people from themselves.

  337. @Jim in Jersey

    Jim,

    I now live in Code White (Jeff Cooper’s code scale) most of the time and am rarely in Code Yellow even when out on the streets at night. It’s been a long time since I was in Code Orange or Red circumsances, and where I am now there are hardly any places where one would be in such and I have no reason to go to any such few places. You sound as if you live in a war zone.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
  338. Alden says:
    @Dani

    Whatever happened to the Detroit Renaissance Center of 55 years ago that was supposed to uplift the city, , draw in businesses and civilize the blacks?

  339. Piglet says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Something to keep in mind is that Lincoln had been not just a lawyer, but a railroad lawyer, and it would have been hard to find a bigger crook and liar in that era than a railroad lawyer.

    Likewise, politicians weren’t any more honest then than they are now. “Honest Abe” was no more honest than Clinton is “Celibate Bill.” A politician’s speeches to a gullible public are no indication of what he actually believes or intends to do. Judge him (or her) by his actions and what he says in private to others.

    As for deportation, see for yourself:

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2008/01/thomas-dilorenzo/speaking-truth-to-the-lincoln-cult/

    Excerpt:
    Bennett tells the story of how, near the end of his life, Lincoln was still “dreaming.” He asked General Benjamin Butler to estimate for him how many ships it would take, after the war was over, do deport all black people from America. “Beast” Butler came back to him with an answer he didn’t want to hear: There was no way that his dream could be accomplished with the sailing fleet that was currently at hand.

    And this:

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/08/thomas-dilorenzo/the-lincoln-myth/

    Excerpt:
    For generations, the so-called Lincoln scholars claimed without any documentation that Lincoln suddenly gave up on his “dream” of deporting all the black people sometime in the middle of the war, even though he allocated millions of dollars for a “colonization” program in Liberia during his administration. But the book Colonization After Emancipation by Phillip Magness and Sebastian Page, drawing on documents from the British and American national archives, proved that Lincoln was hard at work until his dying day plotting with Secretary of State William Seward the deportation of all the freed slaves. The documents produced in this book show Lincoln’s negotiations with European governments to purchase land in Central America and elsewhere for “colonization.” They were even counting how many ships it would take to complete the task.

    • Replies: @Alden
  340. Alden says:
    @Sick 'n Tired

    Tyler was from Berkeley MI not CA. The ban on the word manhole might be overturned . The silly ordnance states no gender specific names.

    A gay bar named The Manhole is suing the city to keep the name.

  341. @jeff stryker

    ” random”

    Incorrect. By not allowing society to make discriminatory choices absent coercion by others (forced association/integration) it is planned, and to the extent that it’s not, it’s a consequence. Those cannot be categorized as “random”.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  342. KenH says:
    @anarchyst

    It’s black CULTURE, not “poverty”.

    It’s black African DNA. Culture is downstream from DNA. Chalking it up to culture makes me angry because that implies blacks can easily change their culture for teh better or adopt white culture and start acting white. What we see in Detroit simply comes very naturally for blacks.

  343. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Yet you’re allowed to believe that….

  344. Piglet says:
    @Tony Schnee

    The SF is a lot whiter than the conventional force Airborne and has been that way for a long time. I recall a friend of mine telling me about coming back from a combat tour in Vietnam in 1972, returning to the 82d Airborne Division, and he did NOT want to be assigned to the division’s 3d Brigade where the racial hostilities were worse than elsewhere in the division. He found a sympathetic ear with a sergeant major who reassigned him to his old unit in the 1st Brigade.

    Also, keep in mind that when someone refers to the 82d’s AA shoulder patch as the “All Afro” and “Amos & Andy,” he’s only half kidding, if that.

    And then there’s this:

    http://www.vietvet.org/crocket.htm

    Excerpt:
    I believe I understand how Camp Crocket vanished. No one who had anything to do with Camp Crocket has anything to be proud of. The bad guys remember it as an interlude in a failed military career they would rather forget; or if they made it to, and survived Vietnam, they had the glory of wartime service to cling to. The good guys behaved like frightened children, and in many instances, when a stand on principal or honor was called for, they looked the other way. In one case, a group of blacks entered a barracks hut after lights out and raped a kid repeatedly while his fellow soldiers pretended to sleep through it all.

    • Replies: @europeasant
  345. Alden says:
    @Anonymous

    The black man probably bumped the White man’s car to get him stopped and out of the car so he could kill the White man.

    2/am little traffic that’s probably what happened. Black spotted the White and purposely bumped his car to make him stop and get out. Detroit affirmative action black prosecutor and judge, they’ll let the black peep off with self defense. If the affirmative action police ever find him.

    • Replies: @David In TN
  346. @Commentator Mike

    I don’t recall being in less than condition yellow. Maybe when I sleep.

    I’m in a suburb where you can still walk your dog without much worry but as I’ve said, if you’re in proximity to a highway with a ghetto as an exit, you should remain in condition yellow.

    Not a lot of blacks up by us. When I see them, I take notice. Not quite Mayberry but as good as you can hope for in NJ.

    If Mayberry had a ground problem and occasional burglaries and robberies and loads of hyper-vigilant Barney Fife’s, you’d get an idea.

    Yet I can be in the dregs of Paterson in fifteen minutes.

    And they can come here.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
    , @Justvisiting
  347. @Counterinsurgency

    The speed rock was very effective and it was sad to see the FBI stop teaching it.

    Too ‘John Wick’ for them I guess.

    I’m not a professional gunfighter. I’d say I was good with a gun and that’s all. I’m sure I could outperform most law enforcement until you get into upper echelon response teams who spend all day (and my tax money) shooting.

    I don’t have to be ‘Navy SEAL’ quality because I’m not apt to run afoul of any of our special forces. I have to be better than the dumb ass ghetto thug who runs up on me as I’m getting in my car. Or the career criminal who tries to force his way into my house. Or the three ‘teens’ who think I look old enough to be an easy mark.

    Practice makes better and you’re only as good as your last practice session.

    I’ve been doing a lot of draw/fire practice lately with a laser cartridge. I recommend them highly.

    I spent a lifetime in self defense and have been shooting since I was old enough to hold a gun. So, yeah I don’t think much about the time it takes anymore.

    As I’ve told students. It only takes one lifetime.

    Make your decision, set your jaw and practice. See everything as practice. Work through in your head how you would get back to your car from where you stand if shit went sideways.

    You said the magic word-mentality.

    Once you possess it, you’ve got half the battle won.

    • Agree: Counterinsurgency
  348. Piglet says:
    @Longfisher

    If many of you don’t know this, the Marines are all volunteer (I think they’ve always been that) and their ranks are absolutely diverse.

    There was a period during the Vietnam War that the USMC was taking in draftees. Losses were so high and volunteers were becoming more scarce so the Corps had to take this step for a time.

    We were in the military during much of the same time but my experiences in the Army were quite different, and the negative ones involving orcs began early.

    During basic training my platoon bonded together well, it seemed, as we were all undergoing the same hardships. At the end of the second month, as training was coming to an end, we were paid in cash. The next morning one (white) member of the platoon discovered his money was missing from his wall locker. (Wall lockers had a single door with latches on the top and bottom and, being somewhat slack at that point, he had only secured one.) Our platoon’s senior drill sergeant dressed us down for having something like this happen to us after all we’d been through together and we felt pretty low. Drill sergeants came into our old WW II wooden barracks building and began to tear apart the upper floor’s wall and foot lockers in search of the loot, and they found it split evenly between two orcs who had been on barracks fire guard duty that night at the same time. They had pried open the unsecured portion of the victim’s wall locker and stolen his money while everyone around them slept in the open bay barracks. Later our company commander told us those two would not graduate with our company and would likely be thrown out of the Army, but a couple of years later I ran into one of my old platoon mates who said he had encountered one of the two perps. Apparently “restorative justice” was taking place then too.

    In the years to come I saw plenty of TNB. Drug use was very widespread and my first roommate at a base in Germany was a black dealer who had done six months in a military prison and was believed to have killed the person who ID’d him after he got out. I didn’t see much of him since he lived in town with his mudshark German girlfriend. (I don’t know why, but German girls seemed to be big into mudsharking. Black GIs seemed to be far more popular than white ones. Certainly they were far different from any German boys the girls had known while growing up.) Slacking off, doing poor quality work, showing up to work late, and staying high while off duty (aka engaging in TNB) were the order of the day. I’d walk into our barracks and my dimwitted orc roommates didn’t even have the sense to lock the door while they were shooting up. It could have been the MPs or CID instead of me. (Note: A later roommate used to buy his dope from members of the MP unit on the opposite side of the compound so you weren’t necessarily going to find straight-and-narrow people there either. As my roommate said, those guys “used the law to beat the law.”) The orcs used the narrow black neckties issued to them for their Class A uniforms to tie off their upper arms as they shot up.

    In many compounds it was unsafe to walk around at night, just as it was (and is) in so many US cities. You’d be accosted, beaten and robbed by groups of black GIs. Not content with that, they also would kick in the doors of white GIs, rough them up and extort “protection” money out of them. Think of such incidents as military-style home invasions.

    I remember one cul-de-sac location not far from the main train station in Frankfurt that had several black hang-out bars (full of drug dealing, of course) and on the streets were orcs acting as lookouts for police and any whites not accompanied by blacks. They ran that area, and if you didn’t know better, you might assume you were in the blackest neighborhood of any city in the USA. It looked dangerous, and it was.

    It was common to hear an orc say that, if the Soviets attacked, he wasn’t going to be around. “I ain’t gonna fight no white man’s war,” they’d say, and they meant it. They were there for the pay, job training and veteran benefits but not for any of the downside.

    During the early to mid-70s things were pretty bad in the military and for any who had the misfortune to live nearby. If you were a German living near an American base, you would probably have an encounter with black troops roughing you up for fun and stealing your money, or breaking into your house, or assaulting a female member of your family or someone you knew. Typically German fire departments had an arrangement with military authorities to provide their services in American military housing areas. In some locations, such as Augsburg, orcs would set fire to home and, when the German Feuerwehr arrived to put out the fire, they’d stone the firemen. Finally the Feuerwehr had enough and told the Americans they were on their own in case of any more fires. (Stoning firemen and fire trucks was all the rage in the US then too.)

    Things got so bad that the commander of the US Army Europe (USAREUR) publicly apologized for the behavior of his troops. What had once been a sharp outfit had hit the skids.

  349. @Mr. Rational

    I was born in Ann Arbor.

    Ann Arbor is relatively wealthy but has a small black ghetto/Section 8.

    But the most serious criminals were sex-crazed serial killers. The first was a Canadian college student during the late sixties named John Norman Collins aka the Michigan Coed Murders. He had a high IQ, was a grad student and killed 12 women.

    It is rarer for white men to be killers but those that are will obviously get away with it for a long time. For some reason, most serial killers have appallingly high IQ’s. Since it is rare for blacks or Mexicans to have high IQ’s, they obviously get caught quickly. If they had IQ’s as high as whites, society would be real trouble. It would be a nation full of serial killers.

    Collins, who was not even American but rather a Canadian who crossed the border from Windsor to attend a US college, killed 12 women. Possibly more.

    The other was a Ervin Mitchell, a black rapist who terrorized Michigan in the early-to-mid nineties.

    Where there are young women, there will sometimes be serial killers or rapists.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Pepe the Frog
  350. @Jim in Jersey

    “And they can come here.”

    This ability gets to the heart of the matter. By fully privatizing roads this ability is taken away. Problem solved.

    I don’t expect it to happen though. There are still too many people who, in their minds, if they can’t conceive it, it isn’t possible.

  351. @OEMIKITLOB

    Incorrect. By not allowing society to make discriminatory choices absent coercion by others (forced association/integration) it is planned, and to the extent that it’s not, it’s a consequence. Those cannot be categorized as “random”.

    Heh. You have an operations research type in the audience. I’d say that the underlying process ((forced association/integration) resulting in assaults) is deterministic, but that the time between assaults and damage done are random processes. That’s a nit-pick, I admit. It’s important in modeling, though.

    Counterinsurgency

  352. Piglet: “As for deportation, see for yourself … [links and quotes Thomas DiLorenzo]”

    DiLorenzo is a poor scholar who writes in a polemical style. In fact, by profession he’s an economist, not an historian. He takes all of Lincoln’s statements that look politically incorrect to the modern eye, and refuses to tell you other Lincoln statements that contradict them. For example, Lincoln also said:

    “Let us discard all this quibbling about this man and the other man; this race and that race and the other race being inferior, and therefore they must be placed in an inferior position; discarding our standard that we have left us. Let us discard all these things, and unite as one people throughout this land, until we shall once more stand up declaring that all men are created equal.”
    -Abraham Lincoln, Lincoln–Douglas debates (1858)

    You won’t find DiLorenzo quoting that one, or the many others that are similar. He also doesn’t tell you that, as I said above, any “deportation” was to be voluntary. There was never any talk of rounding negroes up by force and shipping them off whether they wanted to go or not. Back then they were just as unwilling to leave these shores as they are today, and surely Lincoln knew this. That’s why he called for making them citizens and giving them the vote.

    • Replies: @ben sampson
    , @Piglet
  353. ” It’s important in modeling, though”

    I’ll have to take your word for it at this point but I have to ask: what do the models matter when you get down to where the rubber meets the road (i.e. reality/how things really work/how people choose/on what basis)?

    If like-minded people with similar values, goals, income, etc., regardless of skin color (or not) want to start a community that is fully-privatized (security, shopping, roads, etc.) and prohibit certain types from entering for the reasons the residents contract to, who needs a model for that.

    In short, allowing people to freely choose solves the problem(s). No model required since one size does not fit all.

  354. Looking at Tyler’s fb list of friends, he had enough to produce his own Tarzan movie.
    He would have been safer keeping a cobra as a pet.

    • LOL: Augustus
  355. Alden says:
    @Piglet

    I hope the fools who think we still have a WW2 White military who will save the day read your post.

  356. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    FBI and criminologists define a serial killer as one who killed 3 or more people in separate incidents including juvenile convictions.
    Many more blacks fit that definition than White.

    Typical is Doonte kills someone in a robbery at age 19 paroled at age 25. Gets out and kills someone else in a robbery. Longer sentence this time. Doesn’t get released till early 40’s. Finds a welfare mamma to parasite from and beats one of her children to death.

    White criminals get blasted all over the news for months. Black crime is covered up.

    • Replies: @Alden
  357. there is my comment..#320: it reappeared but it is still to be moderated. something technically wrong with the post, a glitch making it impossible to clear the comment on the board?

    there is nutten wrong with that comment. the situation seems clear to me..we do not know what actually happened

    People here are playing Wingate for a saint, going into tuff Detroit neighborhoods to try to help..if that is indeed what he did. I don’t think so..I doubt that is what Wingate was up to..don’t believe it for a minute

    what I am saying is that if in fact that is what Wingate was up to he was a fool, an uneducated, emotional fool of a white man who the very people he intended to help would see him as an idiot. you need to know what you are about when you going to help..and you must have the means to do what you are about. if not you are a fool..nuts.

    and a fool white man is what you guys wont admit to. if Wingate is a saint as he is described in the situation, he was in fact ignorant, unintelligent, stupid. and I wonder if you guys are aware of what you are doing..making a white man look the fool.

    but then again maybe not. Jesus was illogical, a fool, made little sense and required belief to go on with. Jesus was set up on paper to be killed to become a saint. someone looking for race war makes a saint out of a white man in the wrong place..or the right place depending… in what was likely a real fight he lost rising out of the vehicular accident..and not a beat down

    all of this is the same nonsense white people always go on with, that requires belief, faith and trust..never facts, never logical comprehensive narratives but stories full of holes one must believe.

    all of this appears to be nonsense to me, more of the same propaganda crap as means to nefarious end(s) let Kersey prove the story..then let whoever can verify his logical story. then we can work with whatever comes out whole, logical proven

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    , @MarkinLA
    , @Alden
  358. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    Good for you. Sensible advice from an experienced city dweller who’s been around blacks and browns.

    My advice is, always look behind and around you, even at gas stations. And the most important advice. 3 black men is always a mugging team. More than 3 less robbery proceeds for each. Less than 3 takes more effort to over power victim.

    Or find a safe White neighborhood to live and work in.

  359. Alden says:
    @eah

    The blame the parents and upbringing is ridiculous. Why didn’t the parents tell the college student to lock herself in her dorm room at 6/pm? Why did the mother leave the baby alone in the living room with the pit bull while she cooked dinner? It’s all her fault baby was bitten.

    How about blaming the black guy who beat Tyler to death?

  360. Alden says:
    @Piglet

    Civil War era Central American governments refused to allow the USA to deport negroes to their countries. The C American countries had a Customs and Foreign Affairs Union at the time.

    A Nicaraguan was Washington ambassador for all the Central American countries at the time. On instructions from his governments he refused to accept American former slaves all through the war. It was quite a conflict with Lincoln.

  361. Tubz says:

    Perhaps OT but definitely tangential. This is a video clip of a recent mob attack in Washington DC just a few blocks north of Dupont Circle and in front of a good hotel. Never saw any reference to it in the local media. https://youtu.be/Lt98V_KyQg4

  362. AnalogMan says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    It’s the difference between homosexual and queer; between National Socialist and Nazi; between freedom fighter and terrorist. It depends on your point of view. In each case, the latter term carries a connotation of opprobrium. Nevertheless, they refer to essentially the same thing.

    You would call me a racist as an insult. I would happily accept the label. To me, a racist is somebody who believes in race, just as a spiritualist is someone who believes in spirits, or a deist is someone who believes in a god. Or a student of race, as a physicist studies physics.

    I believe in race. That is, I believe race is a biological reality, not a “social construct”. Humans evolved on different continents, not all from the same pre-human ancestor species, in isolation from each other and subject to varying selection pressures. It is preposterous to imagine that they would all have evolved in exactly the same way. We know that they didn’t, just from the obvious fact that they don’t even look alike.

    I believe that these differences in evolution are not limited to superficial appearances, but have implications for behaviour. And, what do you know? Observation confirms it. Many studies confirm the racial differences in intelligence, maybe most famously The Bell Curve (Hernstein & Murray). See also Racial Differences in Psychopathic Personality (Lynn). Hell, just open your eyes. Look at Africa. Look at majority-black cities in America. This blog documents the results.

    The term race realist simply emphasises that our view of race is in accordance with reality, and has nothing to do with all that hysterical baggage about “hate” .

  363. @ben sampson

    Our people have been brainwashed by the nose.

    The kid was probably an SJW, sadly.

    He was taught that blacks are just like us, and that they think like we do. And his Christian value system (which is meant to be a good thing that creates a high trust society) led him to believe that
    everyone is “nice.”

    This is the reason we are losing, and our people face replacement and extermination……because whites have been lied to, and the real evils have been hidden from our people.

    If that kid had seen Colin Flaherty’s work, he would have been better prepared for real life.

    We see examples of this all the time….dumb white couple goes to Morocco hiking in a remote area….heads get chopped off. White girl goes to Africa for volunteer work….gets raped and killed….parents open a school and hire the men that killed their daughter…..Mollie Tibbets
    gets raped a killed by a mexican…..her father says that mexican food is great!

    I could go on and on.

    I do not believe that it’s “pathological altruism.”

    I believe that it’s deliberate indoctrination by the nose that has ruined our people and turned them into virtue signaling morons.

  364. @Intelligent Dasein

    Well, I have to give you credit. I don’t often agree with much of your content but you’re mostly correct about T. Levels among different races are statistically insignificant and testosterone is not an indicator for violence. Black women are more violent than most white men, and have a fraction the testosterone levels.

    Testosterone is the male hormone, and in this day and age of the blatant anti-straight male zeitgeist, I would have hoped that the demonetization of it would have been obvious as another facet of the anti-male propaganda to most self proclaimed dissidents here. The fact that otherwise thoughtful and insightful contributors here, like Sailer as you say, continue to make a scapegoat of it is not just unfortunate, but inexcusable based on the easy access to the newest research.

    Bush the elder outlawed synthetic testosterone 30 years ago based on nothing more than a scare campaign, but you can walk into any planned parenthood and walk out with a month’s supply of estrogen.

    I’m mostly expecting you to reply with insults anyway, but right is right. 🙂

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    , @Loren
  365. AWM says:

    I grew up in Columbia, SC and worked the bars in 5 Points in the mid 70’s. Most of us bar workers had no trouble with the blacks for one simple reason, they feared us. They probably should have.

    Once, me and a band member (Barney, knew him well, Oak Ridge bluegrass guy) caught these two black guys trying to break into the band’s van parked in the alley. I handed him the Colt Commander and I said “You do these two, you said you hadn’t never killed one of them before.”
    “Wait,” I said, “let me screw the suppressor on it” while winking at him as the pistol wasn’t chambered. “I just can’t do it” he said, “it’s not right.” “Would you rather use this blade I took off the fat one, or you just don’t want to do it” I replied. “You do it, I just don’t have it in me.”

    “OK” I said, taking the pistol back from him, and then looking at the two terrified black boys, “You guys get the fuck out of here, I just don’t have time to get rid of your bodies right now.”
    Right then the club owner (Thom, 42y/o) came out on the fire escape, looked down, and said “You haven’t shot them yet, what the fuck is the hold-up! God-dam I’ll do it my own damn self” while pulling his 41 mag snub nose out of his belt. “I told them they got lucky, Barney won’t do ’em so I told them to get the fuck on” was my reply to Thom. Thom squeezes off a round into the dirt from the fire escape and bellows “I ought to shoot all four of you fuckin’ cretins but then I wouldn’t have a fiddle player for tonight, FUCK FUCK FUCK!”
    I handed the knife back to the fat kid and said, “You fuckers better get the hell out of here, before he changes his mind” “Nothing personal you guys, you’re welcome to come in for a beer anytime, but civilized, you know!”

  366. AnalogMan: “In each case, the latter term carries a connotation of opprobrium. ”

    Any opprobrium to the word “racist” is imaginary, an optional add-on, not in the definition itself. It exists in the minds of those who insist on calling themselves “race realists” instead of the more honest term “racist”. It’s a counter-productive change in nomenclature that deceives no one and only shows up cowards for what they are. They’d be better off being honest.

    Besides, what’s so bad about hate? Hate makes the world go ’round. A man who refuses to hate has effectively been disarmed.

  367. MarkinLA says:
    @ben sampson

    Nobody thinks he was a saint. We all know he was a f-ing idiot. He was around blacks after dark.

  368. Augustus says:
    @Piglet

    It’s been so long that my memories had faded, but you just reminded me of why I left the Army in 1972. It had grown so bad that I was absolutely sure a race war was eminant.

  369. Blacks in the United States have the highest prostate cancer rate in the world and nearly twice that of whites in the United States. The 2:1 black-to-white ratio in prostate cancer rates is already apparent at age 45 years, the age at which the earliest prostate cancer cases occur. This finding suggests that the factor(s) responsible for the difference in rates occurs, or first occurs, early in life. Testosterone has been hypothesized to play a role in the etiology of prostate cancer, because testosterone and its metabolite, dihydrotestosterone, are the principal trophic hormones that regulate growth and function of epithelial prostate tissue. This report gives the results of assays of circulating steroid hormone levels in white and black college students in Los Angeles, CA. Mean testosterone levels in blacks were 19% higher than in whites, and free testosterone levels were 21% higher. Both these differences were statistically significant. Adjustment by analysis of covariance for time of sampling, age, weight, alcohol use, cigarette smoking, and use of prescription drugs somewhat reduced the differences. After these adjustments were made, blacks had a 15% higher testosterone level and a 13% higher free testosterone level. A 15% difference in circulating testosterone levels could readily explain a twofold difference in prostate cancer risk.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  370. KenH says:

    Reverse the races and I can only imagine the unprecedented levels of vomit issuing forth from the (((ultra left wing commissariat))) of Slate, Salon, HuffPo, NYT, WAPO, MSNBC, CNN, etc. Every anti-white racial epithet imaginable would be heaped upon the white residents of the town where the killing took place and we’d be told the only way to atone for this would be through reparations and amnesty.

    There’d be a Trump tweet or two and a promise that the FBI will be on the scene to get to the bottom of this and punish the offender.

    Left wing Twitter would explode followed by a few more deplatformings of right of center commentators.

    But the victim was a white man, so hardly anyone has heard about his demise. So much for white privilege again.

  371. @MikeatMikedotMike

    I’m mostly expecting you to reply with insults anyway, but right is right. 🙂

    I like and agree with most of what you write. Your long-ago post on the internal conditions of the trucking industry was one of the best I’ve ever read here, on any subject.

    The animadversions you’ve associated with my name were due to the fact that I was formerly the recipient of many ignorant, uncharitable, and insulting remarks based upon my opposition to Darwinian evolution. After patiently explaining for the umpteenth time all about how Young Earth Creationism is not a Traditional Christian idea but a late-appearing Protestant heresy, and still being ridiculed as a Jew, a 6-dayer, and a believer in “sky fairies” every time I point out the flaws in the Darwinian paradigm, it became necessary to repay the 1-SD blowhards in their own coin. Sailer has won an occasional dishonorable mention from me due to his slavish reliance on muh genetics, which is really a sideshow in any earnest discussion of race. I’ve always found him to be a cagey and disconnected figure; critic of the Numinous Negro who never misses an opportunity to laud Hollywood and Sportsball must be massively conflicted somehow. And of course I have no patience for Manospheric twats.

    I am perhaps among that handful of people who are here at Unz only because we have no other place to go. The decline of general literary standards has disproportionately affected the dissident community, and the likes of John Reilly (RIP) and Lawrence Auster (RIP) are no longer among us. It gets so tiresome listening to fools repeat mindless mantras about testosterone when there are serious metaphysical and cultural matters begging to be discussed. Also, I am no fan of Jews, Judaism, or Israel, but blaming all the white man’s problems on them, as many on this website are wont to do, is so obviously absurd that it basically frustrates any deeper understanding.

    I hope this helps to account for the liverishness of some of my earlier remarks.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    , @Bubba
  372. @OEMIKITLOB

    what do the models matter when you get down to where the rubber meets the road

  373. @OEMIKITLOB

    what do the models matter when you get down to where the rubber meets the road

    They have their uses. Sizing hospitals, sizing morgues, sizing police forces. Seeing indirect relations such as effect of the casualties on city finances, considering that casualties mean more tax money to “fix the problem”.

    Or, if you really care about human lives (most people in power don’t, they care about remaining in power), quantifying the cost of a specific policy in terms of casualties (dead, wounded, PTSD) in a fairly convincing way.

    Or, if you just want to point and condemn or show virtue, the models have no use at all except to show the inhumanity of the modelers, who dare to abstract from such terrible events.

    The above tends to produce a mindset in which one pays little mention to anything beyond 25 to 50 meters, those being effective ranges of handguns under various conditions, and to various news reports and analyses (such as unz.com).

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  374. @Anonymous

    But isn’t it very American to resolve problems with violence?

    Interesting concept, in that it dates back to the 1500s. It was a European idea that, somewhere in the Atlantic, there was a line that, once crossed on a journey to the Americas, changed the basic rules of behavior. Beyond that line, force was king and the European rules did not apply. Perhaps it was true, at least for the European privteers who crossed the line to raid shipping, or the colonists who realized that there was no adjudicating agency between them and other colonists or the various tribes, or the military forces sent to play 3D chess in clashes between Empires, or slavers who carried bodies from Africa to the Carribbean (mainly) and any other place in the Americas that tropical goods were raised.

    However, it was a _European_ idea. The European descended people who actually lived in the Americas had fairly well ordered, even boring, societies. Spanish Imperial bureaucracy was well known (80 years to get a church roof in Panama fixed, “If Death came from Spain, we would live nearly forever”). French colonies were closely controlled from France. English colonies varied, with some of the religious colonies being very strictly controlled, others not so much (Rhode Island), and quite a few being agricultural colonies with a strong code of honor and a tightly controlled slave population. Not exactly the free-for-all of the 1500s or 1600s.

    But the European idea that the Americas were a land of unconstrained violence persisted. The partial failure of US society under the heavy immigration from 1840 to the 1920s helped fuel this belief, as did the frequent revolutions in Latin America.

    In the United States, however, the goal was always to settle the land (or industrialize it) and to _not_ be violent. This goal was largely achieved in the 1950s, and Americans have been clinging to it, pretending it was still true, ever since. The groups that destroyed the 1950s were transplanted Europeans, not Americans at all (as shown by the repudiation of scapegoating soldiers and the pathetic persistant attempts to become friends with groups that hated Americans).

    So, no, violence first is not the American way. Nor is “lies first” or “I’ll work you to death” American.

    Counterinsurgency

  375. LiveFree says:
    @eah

    There was nothing wrong with her assumption even though it turned out to be false. 9 times out of 10 she’d be right.

  376. @Oil 'n Water

    Sounds like you could write a book.

    I could, but it would be relegated to white power hate speech, banned, only to magically find itself into the truck of a domestic terrorist.

    There are good people in and around Atlanta, but what they tolerate astounds me.

    What blacks do there is equally confounding. So many just shrug it off, I can’t. I wasn’t brought up that way. I guess too many crazy things have made me filled with resolve.

    But as soon as I realized the black cops are just as corrupt and criminal, a different mindset emerged. Suddenly all my family had was me. So, I had a pistol on me just going to Publix or church. Mall of Georgia had their “no guns” sign, but the majority of the blacks inside had something. I’ll go to jail, to save my family.

    Basically, the guiding principles:

    1) avoid blacks. In public, business, restaurants, and banking.
    2) get a concealed carry permit and become proficient.
    3) always carry. Only if FEDERAL or STATE law (felony level) forbids carrying should you not do it.
    4) don’t be afraid to stand up for yourself and your family. They are counting on you not doing it.

  377. @Sick 'n Tired

    And they’d makeva picture of the deceased thug in a cap and gown. You know how important education is to negroes!!

    • Replies: @Alden
  378. 4justice says:
    @Republic

    E Michael Jones does not say it is ok to violate border laws. He also does not say that nation states are not important. He says that the moment you agree to identify as “white” you paint yourself into a corner as a racist who deserves no rights b/c what is white? Mexicans who are Catholic are not the same ethnicity as American Catholics according to Jones – the primary factor is shared language because when there is shared language there can be cooperation leading to culture. The Catholic Church leadership is being corrupt when they take government money to provide secular services for migrants and fail to examine why domestic Catholics are leaving the fold in droves. But the leadership does not control the sacraments – Catholics serve God, not the Catholic leadership, not the pope.

    I think Jones understands that certain oligarchs and “the Jews”, are promoting mass migration to weaken, punish, and destroy the US and Europe just as the Catholic communities in the US were destroyed as he describes in Slaughter of Cities with Blacks as proxy warriors in the Northern cities that weren’t segregated, just home to ethnic enclaves.

    I can understand those who think that it is no easier to promote Catholic identity than white identity since both are demonized in the greater culture – one difference is that Jews have a bigger job to undertake if they want to infiltrate Catholics compared to whites. Another important difference is that “whites” fail to see that they live by Jewish values of materialism, arogant atheism, exploitation of their fellow man and tyrannical control over thought and speech. What are “white” values? European values are authentic Christian values of freedom of thought because God gave each person free will, cooperation and respect for your fellow man, and very importantly, humility because man is not God. Left Jews tend to be atheist, Chabbad Jews (like Jarred Kushner and the new head of NSA cybersecurity) want us to worship Jews as the Messiah. I understand the Catholic Church – like all institutions in our society – suffers from the corruption of sexual morals – however, other Churches have the same problem in addition to being overtly Jewish supremacist aka self-hating or promoting sexual deviance. Catholicism is humble, but also self-respecting. I think it is the best Western resistance to the Jewish effort to destroy Western Civilization currently available. There could be a great awakening. But it requires people to give up things like addictions such as porn, sex, substances, debt etc. so that we can be clear headed and strong. I know some recoil at such requirements – but isn’t saving Western Civilization worth it? E Michael Jone’s book Libido Dominandi shows how these addictions are intentionally promoted to weaken and control us. And guess who benefits? Free yourself and help free us all.

    I also agree with Jones that Islam is not currently trying to destroy the West but is being used as a proxy force to destroy the West. Islamic leaders are not making the plans. Some are just cashing in where they can. Certainly don’t trust those leaders, but try and build community with sincere Muslims – we share many common values with them, but just as with the Christian Zionists, many are deluded into Jewish supremacy – so don’t let them limit you on that score. In Palestine, the Christians and Muslims know very well whom the enemy is and it is not eachother. My as yet still developing thoughts FWIW.

    • Replies: @Anon
  379. @Piglet

    Nothing you wrote in this post is true or accurate.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Piglet
  380. @Robert Dolan

    Reading your comment it is clear you haven’t looked at the more recent studies. What you didn’t mention about prostate cancer and blacks, is that blacks have significantly higher levels of estrogen than do whites, and the latest research is finding that prostate cancer is associated with higher levels of estrogen, levels that can increase in men as they get older, while their T levels can drop.

    So think of the logical fallacy of T causing prostate cancer: T levels drop as men get older, but prostate cancer risk increases. How does less T as one ages cause an increasing risk of PC, when T itself is declining? The answer is estrogen.

    https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/92/7/2519/2598282

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/002247317690131X

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/%28SICI%291097-0045%28199601%2928%3A1%3C17%3A%3AAID-PROS3%3E3.0.CO%3B2-L

    This one is especially important:

    https://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838%2806%2900787-1/fulltext

    From the Abstract:

    In 1941 Huggins and Hodges reported that marked reductions in T by castration or estrogen treatment caused metastatic pCA to regress, and administration of exogenous T caused pCA to grow. Remarkably, this latter conclusion was based on results from only one patient. Multiple subsequent reports revealed no pCA progression with T administration, and some men even experienced subjective improvement, such as resolution of bone pain.

    It has also been shown that men with higher levels of T experience better moods, less mood swing, and less depression:

    https://healthpremiere.org/tip-low-t-men-are-angry-and-moody/

    No link but here’s the study: Wang, Christina, “Testosterone Therapy Improves Mood in Hypogonadal Men,” Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism, 1996, Vol. 31, No. 10.

    Robert – Based on what I’ve read of you, you’re very aware of the subversive element within our culture attempting to eliminate western civilization, as well its war upon white men. Demonizing T is part of that effort and I implore to reconsider your beliefs on this topic.

  381. @Piglet

    PIGLET

    I am German-American and a former USIA Embassy staff and everything you say is completely true.

    And, I am sad to say, your description of German girls was true. There were many like that. And many mulatto street urchins wandering around forlornly around town as a result. They reminded me of Brazilian orphans you see in pictures of the hillside slums.

    I befriended an MP who busted a bunch of black GI’s trying to sell guns to Turkish drug dealers off the base. Heavy ordinance, in fact.

    This was in Ansbach, where my relatives lived.

    • Replies: @Alden
  382. @Piglet

    In 1976 I remember an instance where a group of blacks(Africans) did a past midnight raid on a roomful of Hispanics. The Hispanics were bloodied. There was always the threat of Africans rioting. The stateside army fort where I was stationed was under lock down one time because the Africans were rioting.

    I was at the gym one day and I was the only White person there. All were Africans. They stared for a few seconds but since I came in with an African I guess I was allowed in.

    This is in an army where there is selection for IQ.

  383. Anon[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @4justice

    try and build community with sincere Muslims – we share many common values with them

    This is pure talkiyah. When Muslims are only half chanced they massacre Christians in an unparalleled way.

    For instance Nigeria has killed 2.5 million Christians in occupied ( you do still hate occupations ,right?)Biafra over the past 50 years. Indonesia has killed over half a million Christians in occupied ( occupations are still bad ,amirite?) West Papua over the past 50 years. These are only 2 of many examples.

    The leaders who you say make no decisions ( more takkiyah) made laws in 14 Islamic countries making it illegal and punishable by the death penalty to convert from Islam to Christianity. The muslim population vigorously suoport these laws. Some allies to Christians.

  384. as Sherman talked about the defense of his family all sorts of thoughts ran through my mind. very prominently the inability of Black men all though american history to defend and protect their families in the face of the white onslaught.

    the same honest sentiment of concern for family and kind I saw in Sherman Fan I experienced myself, saw a million times reading of slavery, Jim crow and indescribable racism experienced by us Black people in the USA for centuries..up to just then…. still going on.

    the devil turns the twits now somewhat as his interest switches and he needs his former cadres to become the victim, and to make the former victim something of active cadres in effecting his evil. but we must be careful for what we see is full of shades and blinds for what we think we see is not really there. there has been no switch in fact same to general victimization..or the open victimization of all.

    whereas white victimization was general but varied in expression, from velvet glove to ghetto not white victimization is starting to cover the spectrum of whites leaving only a thin minority of them in clover..while at the same time a minority of Blacks ascend into clover themselves..leaving Black people even more leaderless, fooled into believing its all over, more fooled than ever.

    but the apparent switch has left white people descending into a hell of victimization, expressing hood behavior like Black people used to live. Sherman Fan in his pistol-works begins to look and read like the ghetto..violence even on a Saturday at the mall,Saturday shopping…..one of the best, most anticipated times all week. that slope is sliding ordinary white people straight into the ghetto, focused on their neighbor, not on the guy who tilted the life, graded the slope and made it extra slippery

  385. Linkplz says:
    @homer

    Hey do you have these links to the libraries of videos you’re talking about? Also a few of my family members knew this kid but I haven’t been able to find a real video of the whole thing that wasn’t blurred out.

  386. Alden says:
    @Father O'Hara

    8th grade graduation gown

  387. Alden says:
    @Sam Coulton

    Every person who’s ever been in the military or was in law enforcement and dealt with MPs and criminals from local military bases knows Piglets post is true.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  388. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    Your post reminds me. Sister and husband lived in Frankfurt about 10 years. Many of their German friends had guns, despite very strict gun control laws. They bought their guns from black soldiers at the numerous American army bases.

  389. Gas stations in the vicinity of blacks (especially at night) are places to avoid…..

  390. @Jim in Jersey

    I’m in a suburb where you can still walk your dog without much worry but as I’ve said, if you’re in proximity to a highway with a ghetto as an exit, you should remain in condition yellow.

    You have made an important point that white people looking to retirement destinations should note.

    You want to live somewhere far away from any Interstate exit.

    It is an exercise in chaos theory to show how the likelihood of random “bad” stuff happening decreases
    (exponentially?) as the distance from Interstate exits increases.

  391. ALDEN

    In the 1990’s some black GI’s would have a street corner off the base. You would meet them there and then they would send you to an apartment where a local would sell stolen military hardware. Small arms, mostly.

    I think the opinion of Germans is the old “better to be judged by twelve than carried out by six” mantra.

    Than again the same goes for limousine liberals and gays in San Francisco. They talk about gun control (Code for keeping automatic weapons out of the hands of certain minorities) but every single one of them keeps a .357 or .38 snub in a shoe box in their loft.

  392. Piglet says:
    @Sam Coulton

    Nothing you wrote in this post is true or accurate.

    I wish it weren’t! How my time in the military would have been so much different if none of this happened.

    There’s a book titled Army in Anguish by Haynes Johnson that was published in 1972. You’ll find similar experiences in its pages. It’s available on Amazon. I read that when I was still in high school and then I soon saw for myself some of the same locations and conditions described in the book.

    I came across another book in the 1980s at an on-base bookstore titled “A History of US Armed Forces in Germany” or something very similar. I recall in its pages it described how things went downhill for the Army in Germany during the late 1960s and early 1970s. One incident involved a group of black GIs who found two German girls having a picnic by a lake and they gang-raped them. Back here this sort of thing is almost considered “normal” but Germany hadn’t invited predator migrants yet (that was still decades away) so it wasn’t “normal” there yet. Other very unpleasant incidents are covered in the book as well.

    At one point I was the only white guy in my barracks so I was truly immersed in TNB. I recall my roommates would brag about abusing their white GI or German girlfriends, slapping them around and pushing them to give them large amounts of money for such necessities of life as ankle-length fur coats for that pimp look. I couldn’t figure out why the mudsharks put up with it.

    One example of TNB I recall was a rather worthless black GI coworker. In the late 1970s while I was assigned to a 24/7/365 transportation center on the midnight-to-nine shift this slug came to work late four times in 16 days. Not just a few minutes late, but hours late. Usually there were two NCOs (an E-6 and an E-5) and a couple of us E-4s. That night the two NCOs were both off so Sluggo and I were supposed to carry the load ourselves. He finally showed up at 4 a.m. after “oversleeping.” I’d been doing the workload of four people and I was not happy at all. Finally, after this fourth incident, they gave Sluggo a rather toothless “letter of counseling” asking him to please come to work on time. (Had I done it, I would have probably been given an Article 15, meaning a loss of stripes and pay.) Sluggo went to our brigade HQ and complained that we were picking on him because he was black. I got the word from my NCOIC that Sluggo had put in for a transfer to the brigade HQ and he was going to get it, and in the meantime we weren’t to say anything to him (e.g., he could screw off to his heart’s content) or say anything about the typically lousy quality of his work until then. Later, when I was out-processing at the end of my tour, I saw him at the camp of our brigade HQ. He was all smiles because he could goof off as much as he wished and wasn’t responsible for anything. It was an early lesson into TNB and double standards that I never forgot.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  393. Anonymous[566] • Disclaimer says:
    @Loren

    OJ actually sat in jail from the end of the Bronco ride until the end of his trial.

    He beat the charge but he didn’t beat the ride.

    • Replies: @Loren
  394. what the hell is happening to my posts here on this thread?
    who is cutting them up, not posting them up and all that. is someone trying to tell to get to hell outta here?
    why don’t they come out and say it to hell…straight up.

    hey Ron UNZ! someone is censoring me here. do you know? you board is getting pitz!

    • Replies: @ben sampson
    , @europeasant
  395. cassandra says:
    @Augustus

    I know someone who had the opposite experience in Richmond VA real-estate, several decades ago. Instead of getting killed in BRA, he made a killing in BRA.

    It was NOT a smart move.

    Yup: it’s a smart move when you try to time the market and get it right; it’s a dumb move when you don’t. If only I could tell the difference ahead of time… 😉

    • Replies: @Augustus
  396. @Vsevolod

    Not sure how the pot-smoking matters, but the rest of his beliefs sound like suicidally naive drivel.

    • Replies: @Vsevolod
    , @Pepe the Frog
  397. Vsevolod says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Normally I might agree and say the weed smoking has nothing to do with it. It just seemed like every mention of it in his twitter account was accompanied by a picture or reference to some hood rat musician. He idolized and mimicked the culture of his own killer.

  398. @AbleDad

    You’re right. But what’s all this about “moving to the city that he believed in”? That sounds like prequalification for a Darwin Award.

    ************

    One time I was going to Berkley to visit a buddy. I was a little pissed because customs had just detained me for the n-teenth time, and I was feeling rushed to get out of the car I had spent all day in.

    On Gratiot street about a mile Northeast of downtown, in what is an easy contender for worst neighborhood in America, I gunned it into the flow of traffic but miscalculated and clipped the front end of a 2000s Honda Odyssey with the driver side door of my late-90s Cadillac STS.

    The impact sent me cursing, and I immediately considered using the Northstar’s full capacity to flee. But cool thinking quickly led to the realization that even in that part of Detroit, a cop may have witnessed my grossly negligent battering of another man’s primary means of transportation. Narrowly escaping Wayne County Jail once already was enough for the day. I elected to pull into a strip mall that was anchored by a business called Liquor Check Cashing and occupied by no other discernible tenants.

    As I slowed to a stop in the rainy darkness of the strip mall drive, I watched in the mirror with greatest interest as the mashed up driver stumbled out of his crumple-zoned Jap-crap soccer van. It was Pajeet Singh.

    Long story short: He said, “You have insurance, yes? You give name, phone number address.”

    I said, “Sure thing. Shub Raatri, friendo.”

    In the first phone call, the affronted driver learned of my stance on state-mandated insurance. On the second call, he learned my position on immigration. There was no third call.

    So, what would I have done if Murquan Jenkems or Alopecia Dix had exited that Caddy-fucked van instead of Anurag Shitstreet? I don’t know, but there’s a good chance it would have involved ducking and more body damage than just the large dent in my driver’s side door.

    ***************

    As the reader, you may find yourself saying, “Jesus, this guy’s a fucking douchebag.”

    Yet, here I type.

  399. 95Theses says:
    @David In TN

    Indeed. I’ve noticed that even the most elementary logic of basic syllogisms are not able to penetrate the minds of the majority of them .

    Short term gratification driven by blind, indiscriminate retribution for some sin someone else committed against one of their tribe are all that matters to them. They cannot see beyond tomorrow.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  400. @ben sampson

    nothing was happening to my posts…no one was censoring them or chopping them up but my old Microsoft that’s gone now. I was forced to toss it.

    I apologize to the mod or mods..and to the Review. my pc was not functioning effectively, making it look like most posts weren’t up. it is/was old and it is in the process of being replaced
    sorry!

  401. @Counterinsurgency

    Understood. Thank you.

    You’re presumably looking at this from the perspective of our current centrally-planned economy where the state, its administrators, bureaucrats, the crony capitalists in bed with them and various other politically-connected are predetermining consumers choices and limiting their range and scope through “nudging”, a la Cass Sunstein, et al?

    I was looking at it from the perspective of a market-based economy where modeling would be of less value since their are many more variables and a particular choice cannot always be guaranteed.

  402. @homer

    You are absolutely correct.

    The first thing everyone tells you when you move to southeastern Michigan is where not to go. Don’t go to Detroit, don’t go to Flint, don’t go to Saginaw, don’t go to Inkster, don’t go to Delray, don’t go to Ecorse, don’t go to Lincoln Park, don’t go to Harper Woods, don’t go to Highland Park, don’t go to Lansing. Livonia is safe but Redford isn’t, Farmington Hills is safe but Southfield isn’t, Ann Arbor is safe but Ypsilanti isn’t. There’s nothing whatsoever in any of these places that’s worth your life to see. If you are offered a job in any of these places politely decline and if pressed say it’s further away than you are willing to commute.

    No one here with any sense goes within Detroit city limits at any time, for any reason. This advice is often ignored by stupid white fratboys from U of M who think they’re “hard” because they wear their baseball caps sideways and listen to Eminem. They go into Detroit to buy coke to resell to their frat “bros.” Sometimes they even get away with it a few times.

    All too often they call the wrong drug dealer “my nigga” one time too many at two o’clock in the morning in the wrong back alley behind the wrong abandoned auto plant down on Six Mile and are never seen again. Occasionally it’s a story on the back page of the Detroit Free Press, in the smallest print available, sandwiched in between ads for furniture stores, that human remains were found in twenty-eight little Tupperware bowls in a dumpster behind a burnt-out building on Livernois Avenue, police suspect foul play (gee, ya think?) but are unable to determine a motive in this “random” crime.

    Note also that the homicide clearance rate in Detroit hovers somewhere around 12%, which means–or at least rumor has it–that criminals from outside Detroit dump bodies there because they know the Affirmative Action cops in Detroit are just phoning it in and it’s the safest way to dispose of a corpse for those lacking access to a woodchipper.

    Everyone here knows Detroit is a lawless ultraviolent wasteland. Everyone here knows Detroit is basically Haiti with snow. Why was he there?

    Every cop knows that human beings self-segregate when permitted to do so. Every cop knows that when you see a white guy in a black area, or vice versa, something illicit is going on, usually involving drugs, prostitution, or both. This goes double if it’s a woman. This goes triple for racially mixed couples in a vehicle, and cops like to pull these couples over, wait for someone to say “that’s my boyfriend” or “she’s my fiance,” and ask them to recite one another’s full real names. So what was he doing there?

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Anon
  403. @RadicalCenter

    He was a wigger. He loved Africans-in-America more than his own people. He loved them so much that he adopted their disgusting, disreputable foreign vices and presumably chose to live among them so as to have easier access to dope. He adopted their customs and mannerisms. It didn’t save him.

    • Agree: bruce county
  404. Augustus says:
    @cassandra

    If he was trying “to time the market,” all I can say is his timing was terrible. Whatever he thought he was doing, he’s o longer doing it!

  405. @Negro Antidote

    Then you’d have one less dollar today.

  406. @TheTruthTeller

    4a. Train with your chosen weapon.

    Owning a gun doesn’t make you able to fight for your life any more than owning a violin makes you able to make music.

    Imagine that we lived in a world where it not infrequently happened that a householder would be awakened by the sound of breaking glass at three in the morning only to find a group of musicians in his house challenging him to an impromptu rock-off, with life and death as the stakes. Imagine that you took this possibility seriously enough to buy a violin. Would you practice with it? Or would you leave it in the closet to gather dust?

    Tomorrow is Saturday. Go to the range. The life you save could be your own.

  407. @Patrialiberty

    In 2014 a company selling a smartphone mapping application called “Sketchy” that showed violent crime data and could recommend routes avoiding high-crime areas.

    Of course all the usual suspects immediately accused the vendors and the app of “RAYCISMS.” The app did not use demographic data of any sort, but there was a huge outcry. Hmm, seeing violent crime information and immediately associating it with a certain racial group–I’m sure there’s a word for that. It’s right on the tip of my tongue.

    And, of course, now even the former web page of the developers is gone, dropped down the Memory Hole for THOUGHTCRIME.

    Welcome to Clown World. Honk honk, fren.

  408. @Eddie Blake

    It happens down south too. I’ve lived there.

    Wherever Africans are, is Africa.

    Horace knew, two thousand years ago. “Naturam expelles furca, tamen usque recurret.”

  409. @Ex New Yorker

    You don’t? I sure do.

    All the same crazy Hollyweird Leftists and scruffy Antifa types who have Trump Derangement Syndrome now had Bush Derangement Syndrome twelve years ago. Lots of “entertainers” got Secret Service visits after “jokingly” talking about killing President Bush, then went on TV and whined about “muh freedumbs of speech.” Just like now.

    See also, Reagan Derangement Syndrome. See also, Nixon Derangement Syndrome.

  410. Bubba says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Your long-ago post on the internal conditions of the trucking industry was one of the best I’ve ever read here, on any subject.

    Totally agree and it certainly was.

    I am perhaps among that handful of people who are here at Unz only because we have no other place to go.

    True, and please excuse the following bad acting, Hollywood reference…

  411. @Pepe the Frog

    PEPE

    Washtenaw county native here-

    Ann Arbor is fairly safe.

    The West side of the city is where I grew up and on the border of Dexter/Zeeb Road near Scio Township this part of Ann Arbor is semi-rural. Ann Arbor has no ghetto.

    Ypsilanti is less safe than Ann Arbor but not unlivable. Eastern Michigan is located there. Black crime is higher, far higher than Ann Arbor. But the city is not unlivable. Overall, Ypsilanti is poorer than Ann Arbor. The safer side of Ypsi is the Western border with Ann Arbor on Washtenaw Blvd.

    Flint is obviously dangerous. Saginaw also has Mexican gangs and a sizable Hispanic population-I don’t know why. Lansing is not completely dangerous but has both a ghetto and a barrio.

    Even idiotic frat boys did not go into Detroit to do coke deals with blacks at 2 AM when I was in college. This is essentially suicide. Black dealers sometimes came to Eastern Michigan or the U of M with their drugs, but not the reverse. You would have to be crazy, utterly crazy, to do a cocaine deal in Detroit. Why bother to give the cocaine when they simply kill you and walk away with your money? When I was a college student, the drug dealers were all black athletes on scholarships.

    For a white woman, even Ypsilanti is unsafe at night. There was always some black rapist loose who was raping a white coed behind McKenny Union or wherever.

    You would have to be crazy to use black prostitutes in Washtenaw county. Crazy. They all have AIDS. And every other STD.

  412. @AbleDad

    I always drive well around Detroilet. With appropriate planning it isn’t difficult.

    I-275 goes north-south well west of Telegraph Road (the current approximate western boundary of Detroit and its “vibrant culture”). I-696 goes east-west well north of 8 Mile Road, Detroit’s northern boundary. I-94 goes east-west well south of Detroit’s southern boundary, though I do not encourage anyone to go east of the Wyoming Avenue on it because you’re getting into Injun country, and though there are huge walls on either side between you and the “affordable housing,” they’re also driving all around you, and that’s one hell of a bad place to have to pull over due to a mechanical problem. There’s nothing east of Detroit but Lake St. Clair. So you’ve got freeways on three sides that allow you to sidestep “tha D” with minimal delay. Detroit Metro Airport is in Romulus, far west of the city–which is probably the only reason it hasn’t been stolen.

    I hear someone in the Peanut Gallery saying “but what if I have to go into Detroit?”

    For what? For a Red Wings game? Fuck that, watch it on TV. For the North American Auto Show? Fuck that, you can read the press releases after it’s over. For a concert? I can listen to music at home using my Internet connection. For a trip into Canada? Take I-275 up to Novi, get on I-696 and head east to St. Clair Shores, then take I-94 up to Port Huron and cross there instead. For a job? Find another job, one that’s not in the lawless jungles of Deebabwe. Do you just have some random bug up your ass to see the slums for yourself? Google Maps Street View has you covered, but I’ll save you some time and let you know they look exactly like any other slums inhabited by Africans-in-America. Imagine Hiroshima with graffiti and that’s pretty spot on.

    You don’t have to go into Detroit. No one has to go into Detroit. It’s a choice–a stupid one that can get you dragged out of your car and stomped to death by a mob.

    I hear someone in the Peanut Gallery saying “but that’s surrendering! I’m a taxpayer! I got muh rights! I should be able to go anywhere I want!”

    Wake up and smell the ashes. If you don’t want to see what’s right in front of you, I can’t help you. If you still insist on going there, a certain web forum I occasionally read has coined an appropriate saying: “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.”

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
  413. @Malla

    So was Dr. Albert Schweitzer.

    “I have given my life to try to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There is something that all white men who have lived here like I must learn and know: that these individuals are a sub-race. They have neither the intellectual, mental, or emotional abilities to equate or to share equally with white men in any function of our civilization. I have given my life to try to bring them the advantages which our civilization must offer, but I have become well aware that we must retain this status: the superior and they the inferior. For whenever a white man seeks to live among them as their equals they will either destroy him or devour him. And they will destroy all of his work. Let white men from anywhere in the world, who would come to Africa, remember that you must continually retain this status; you the master and they the inferior like children that you would help or teach. Never fraternise with them as equals. Never accept them as your social equals or they will devour you. They will destroy you.”
    Dr. Albert Schweitzer, winner of the 1952 Nobel Prize for peace, in his
    1961 book, From My African Notebook.

  414. @Dr. Pepper

    Steve Utash was also attacked by a mob of between forty and fifty, of whom only three (3) were arrested. The Detroit PD considers the case to be “closed.”

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
  415. Anon[319] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pepe the Frog

    The first thing everyone tells you when you move to southeastern Michigan is where not to go. Don’t go to Detroit, don’t go to Flint, don’t go to Saginaw, don’t go to Inkster, don’t go to Delray, don’t go to Ecorse, don’t go to Lincoln Park, don’t go to Harper Woods, don’t go to Highland Park, don’t go to Lansing.

    Why would anyone move to southeastern Michigan?

    • Replies: @Pepe the Frog
  416. awry says:
    @Bettrina

    Had he been racist he might have lived though.

  417. Malla says:
    @Pepe the Frog

    Thanks, I am aware of this quote by Dr. Schweitzer.

  418. @OEMIKITLOB

    After several days of thought:

    In this case, the modeling is important because it identifies the existence of an underlying process, and offers evidence for this process. Once the underlying process is determined, one can try to change it or, if necessary and possible, change the underlying process. If you don’t change the underlying process, you’re basically playing whack-a-mole, and the problem never goes away.

    Remember that a correct identification doesn’t mean anybody’s going to do anything [1]. In that case, one gets a HAL failure: “I propose that we replace the module and let it fail. The cause of failure will then be obvious. “. You may remember that this was HAL trying to kill off its crew, but an executive / line manager trying to play for time until she / he/ it is transferred or retired would say much the same thing (and list “reducing maintenance expenditures” or “avoiding a lawsuit” as an accomplishment for the year).

    Problem: I can tell you what’s happening, but I can’t make you smart or conscientious, nor can I make the overall system’s working capital (social or monetary) sufficient to implement a specific change, nor can I make the organization’s informal goals change.

    Or, in C. N. Parkinson’s advice about a company with advanced injelititis [2]: insure it heavily and set it alight. Use the money to start a new firm being careful to hire no employees from the previous firm.

    Example: When Aeroflot went under at the end of the USSR, the replacement air services made it iron clad policy to _never_ (as in “not ever”) hire a former Aeroflot employee, who was presumed to know everything that could be known about how to steal, insult customers, and corrupt other employees, and all that on his best day.

    And, yes, “allowing people to freely choose ” is my preferred choice, but the American system in general is suitable only for a highly moral people that constrain themselves in accordance with Christianity, and is suitable for no other, to paraphrase a bit.

    I hate reorganizations. They’re dangerous for everybody, although less than living with a failed organization.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] Marshall W. Mayer, Lynne G. Zucker.
    _Permanently Failing Organizations_ (1st Edition).
    SAGE Publications, Inc; 1st edition 1989/01/01.
    ISBN-13: 978-0803932586; ISBN-10: 0803932588
    Note the book’s cost on Amazon.com. This is a popular book.

    2] “8. INJELITITIS, OR PALSIED PARALYSIS”
    http://caprofession.com/parkinsons8.asp
    Injelititis permits utter incompetents to hold their job as long as the organization lasts; it’s the preferred form for empty suits or ideological fanatics.

    Here’s the final paragraph:

    The institution is for all practical purposes dead. It can be founded afresh but only with a change of name, a change of site, and an entirely different staff. The temptation, for the economically minded, is to transfer some portion of the original staff to the new institution–in the name, for example, of continuity. Such a transfusion would certainly be fatal, and continuity is the very thing to avoid. No portion of the old and diseased foundation can be regarded as free from infection. No staff, no equipment, no tradition must be removed from the original site. Strict quarantine should be followed by complete disinfection. Infected personnel should be dispatched with a warm testimonial to such rival institutions as are regarded with particular hostility. All equipment and files should be destroyed without hesitation. As for the buildings, the best plan is to insure them heavily and then set them alight. Only when the site is a blackened ruin can we feel certain that the germs of the disease are dead.

  419. Anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfred

    Indeed, that must be a common activity.

  420. Anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @AshtonS

    Have you noticed how other racial groups in the USA are very ethnocentric as well?
    Basically, all bar the whites.

    Think what that has been leading to, and what it may lead to later.

  421. @Pepe the Frog

    If there’s one good takeaway from your observation, it’s this: you know where they are when the time comes.

    And they’re surrounded.

  422. @ben sampson

    “who is cutting them up, not posting them up and all that”

    Probably the Russians. It seems they are doing everything these days even being responsible for presidential elections.

  423. @Pepe the Frog

    I often consider that nowadays with the rise of ‘flash mobs’ or ‘instant riots’ as I call them.

    Mostly, I tell people to consider their threat level when picking a handgun for defensive carry. Despite what most say, I’m fine with a minor caliber (22, 32, 380, 9mm, 9Makarov) because they conceal and carry easily and I don’t run with packs of international assassins.

    I keep my threat level low by staying out of areas and situations that could prove dangerous.

    But what happens when you watch your threat level jump from yellow to black in a few seconds and you’re in the midst of a group that wasn’t there before?

    Now that little pocket mouse seems even smaller. Now you wish you had anything else as you try to make your way to an exit or at least out of the vicinity. Like a 9mm, full sized Glock with two 33 round mags taped to your shins! Or something belt-fed!

    Going out hadn’t required this much thought since the Indian wars.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  424. Regarding Blacks: I know a good ONE. Hooray.
    Regarding Whites: I know a bad ONE. Stay away.
    Emphasis on one.

  425. Just Me says:

    Why is there no racial hate crime mentioned with the murder charge?

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  426. MarkinLA says:
    @Just Me

    Because, just like Jeb said about Mexicans breaking our laws willfully, it was an act of love to kick him to death.

  427. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:

    Just typical groid behaviour fired up with anti white hatred, chimping out on any pretext.
    It ain’t gonna change.
    London, UK, is now 40% white.
    Sweden is now the rape capital of the world, a patchwork quilt of ever expanding No Go Areas, where the police have just given up. They no longer even bother investigating violent rapes of very young children.

  428. Sbin says:

    An uncle managed a BASF plant in Detriot in the 70’s a young couple flew in for an interview and were both beat raped and robbed then left for dead naked.
    As you might guess the husband waa not interested in moving to Detriot.
    Fortunately as a young man of Irish Heritage I was trained to box.Fought dindu from an early age.They are most dangerous in a pack or surprise attack.
    Lack of self control, poor education feral upbringing is a bad combination.
    That said I have many friends of +30 years that are black.The difference is their parents raised well educated and socialized children.
    The content of character is a thing.
    Avoid ghetto scum of every shade!

  429. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    what was Lincoln’s attitude and general behavior as far as Blacks were concerned?

    I cant say for sure but the impression I got is that when Lincoln spoke of deportation he was quite serious

    were there actual plans to move all Black people out..to places like San Domingo/Santo Domingo for example he was quite serious and directly intended

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  430. my way of looking at this historical situation is that Lincoln himself was serious about sending American Blacks somewhere out of the USA. events did not permit him to do that..in fact events tied him up politically so tightly he had to drop he idea in the public

    after the EP Lincoln apparently did not talk much about the repatriation/deportation/colonization idea in the public, but it seemed clear the idea at least, if not the plans lived on in him as a strong and genuine factor.

    but Lincoln was a politician and he had a war to win. and what he had to do to win that war made it politically difficult for him to carry though plans to remove Blacks.

    Had Lincoln the time we might have seen the fruiting of some plan to move at least some Black out of the US. maybe those who had served in the military in the civil war would have been spared..maybe a few others deemed ‘valuable

    I have no doubt at all that had he lived Lincoln would have tried to find a way to effect his intent to move Blacks out of the USA

  431. eah says:

  432. Loren says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    yes, in 1986 Fed, FDA etc did what they could to make dianabol roids etc a no no.

  433. Loren says:
    @Anonymous

    Jail, yes. Prison, no.

  434. @Anon

    In my case, it was to take a job in the People’s Republic of Ann Arbor. 29 square miles, surrounded by reality.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  435. Republic says:
    @Pepe the Frog

    Africa’s booming cities face a severe toilet crisis.

    https://tiny.iavian.net/u6ty

    As Africa faces a population boom unmatched anywhere in the world, millions of people are moving to fast-growing cities while decades-old public facilities crumble under the pressure.

    Sewage is a scourge for residents of this community on the outskirts of Uganda’s capital, Kampala. There are no public toilets for some 1,200 people. Mud tinged with feces washes into homes during heavy rains.

    One of the fastest-growing cities in the world, Kampala is home to at least 1.5 million people but authorities say over 3 million pass through daily, usually for work. Yet there are fewer than 800 pay toilets and only 14 free ones, many of them dilapidated with walls often smeared with feces.

    Seems Trump was right about S*** holes!

    • Agree: Pepe the Frog
  436. @Pepe the Frog

    PEPE

    I am from Ann Arbor’s west side on the border of Dexter and that is so far from Detroit that it is nearly rural. Washtenaw road is thirty miles from Telegraph.

    Brighton and Canton are also relatively safe. Or were in the nineties.

    My grandparents lived on the Detroit/Warren border in what was then a predominantly Polish community and it was also relatively safe.

    Dearborne is not as safe as Ann Arbor or Canton or Brighton, but it is not as dangerous as Detroit either. Arabs in Dearborne are crooked and can be unpleasant, but they won’t rob you or rape you. Compared to Europe, the Arabs in Dearborne are angels.

    Flint is actually two hours from Detroit. The public always lumps it in with Southeastern Michigan. It isn’t.

    Once you get past Western Ann Arbor, you’re really getting into the sticks. Scio Township, Dexter, etc.

  437. @jeff stryker

    Ann Arbor is relatively wealthy but has a small black ghetto/Section 8.

    As someone who often works in Ann Arbor, I’d like to know where it’s located so that I can avoid it.

    Thanks.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  438. @Jim in Jersey

    Going out hadn’t required this much thought since the Indian wars.

    Neither has staying in. Right now I’m trying for a home security system that will defeat a raiding party of 3 to 5 experienced but untrained people carrying pistols or carbines, but not using explosives. General plan is to separate them from their vehicles, delay them a bit less than a minute while barriers get into place and defenders call for help and take up fighting positions while waiting for a reaction force (the police) to show.

    We have no such raiding parties here, but it’s a real threat of the sort that will spread (no training, little capital needed, big payoff sometimes) and defending against it defends against all less severe attacks if accompanied by a competent tactical plan.

    The problem turns out to be delaying the raiders long enough to assume fighting positions. The “home security” people don’t sell home security. They sell video recording equipment that will provide your heirs (and the police) with _really_ good pictures of you getting your head blown off. The fence people don’t sell fences. They sell things that _look_ like fences, but won’t delay a person more than ten seconds or so after alarm sounds during initial contact with the fence. Such fences are apparently available in South Africa, but not here just yet. Chalk up two more industries that don’t much care whether their customers live or die, but do care whether their bills are paid.

    Two rows of triple concertina with an alarm cable (senses mechanical vibrations) would work, but is too unsightly even for me, so far.

    So: if you want to avoid home invasion (raiders drive to the doorway, kick the door down, run through the house killing everybody they meet before they can reach a defensive position), keep firearms on your person _while at home_ and pray a lot. The prayers may do you some good when you reach Heaven.

    Why do I have to put up with this nonsense? I can’t afford the system, not really, but it’s better than living with the threat. If nothing else, I have responsibilities to my dependents.

    Counterinsurgency

  439. @ben sampson

    San Domingo/Santo Domingo for example he was quite serious and directly intended

    Unless he meant Haiti, he’d have to fight los Dominicnos on a military level of intensity prior to the relocation.

    Counterinsurgency

  440. @Pepe the Frog

    PEPE

    1. Section 8 Huron Parkway/Glacier Way (Across from Huron High): Not really large enough to be a ghetto, but the Section 8 is a good place to run into trouble at night. The Section 8 located at the top of the hill on Glacier Way is particularly dodgy at night-just walking by on the sidewalk on a Saturday Night is an invitation for trouble. These folks were relocated from Detroit by the government and as a result, Huron High School suddenly had a gang problem.

    2. Washtenaw Avenue on the border of Ypsilanti has a Section 8 as well. I forget what corner. Near the Putt Putt Golf. The area surrounding this project is rundown as well.

    3. Stadium Boulevard has particularly bad cul-de-sac. Not Section 8, just low-income housing. Lots of crimes occur there.

    4. Public schools. If you have kids and you are in the Mack school district, pay for Gabrial or Rudolph Steiner or whatever parochial school you can get them into. Forsythe/Wines is rough too. Middle schools in Ann Arbor are tougher than high schools because of the age range-you have 16 year old blacks in ninth grade with 12 year old kids.

    As a rule of thumb, the closer you get to Ypsilanti, the closer you are to black crime.

    The West side of Ann Arbor on the border of Zeeb road is far safer (I grew up here) than the East side.

  441. @Pepe the Frog

    Never fraternise with them as equals. Never accept them as your social equals or they will devour you. They will destroy you.

    Good rule of thumb for business consultants in the US, also, “them” being the clients.

    Counterinsurgency

  442. @Father O'Hara

    Then they shouldn’t say anything.

  443. @Bettrina

    Tyler didn’t see COLOR

    Color sure saw him.

  444. Anonymous[373] • Disclaimer says:
    @Richard B

    I’m pretty sure the police and other authority figures take the angry relatives aside and quietly make them understand that they have a responsibility to ” and not say anything that might provoke more violence.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  445. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @jeff stryker

    I guess you get this idea that negroes are all physical supermen by watching too much televitz. The reality is that they are no stronger than whites and the only advantage they have over us in a fight or other dangerous situation is that they know most white men are scared of them and will whimper and cry for them not to hurt him.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Alden
  446. FvS says:

    Blacks can be terrible at times, but nothing compares to the demographic threat posed by the Latin American hordes.

    • Agree: Republic
  447. Richard B says:
    @Anonymous

    You’re probably right. Of course, they don’t do that when the races are reversed.

  448. ben sampson: “I cant say for sure but the impression I got is that when Lincoln spoke of deportation he was quite serious”

    Any serious plan wouldn’t have relied on all the negroes volunteering to leave. Keep in mind that importation of slaves had been prohibited by federal law since 1808. That means that the vast majority of the slaves had been born in this country and knew no other home. By 1865 it would have been a very old slave indeed who had any memory of Africa, let alone any desire to go there. Lincoln had to have known this.

    Also, the word “deportation” itself has shifted a bit in nuance since the 1860s. Today it has a connotation of expulsion by force, but back then it didn’t. An amateur historian like DiLorenzo relies on this, because it helps him sensationalize things. He counts on his readers assuming that when Lincoln said “deportation” he meant expulsion by force, but he actually didn’t. If Lincoln wanted them to leave at all, it was always only going to be on a voluntary basis.

  449. Morris L says:
    @homer

    Coukd I have the link to the video library please?

  450. @Pat Boyle

    Blacks are not the same as whites or Asians. They are in almost all settings more violent.

    The violence of blacks is too universal and too consistent for it to stem from some environmental source. The environmental theory of the observed greater black violence is just preposterous.

    Black leadership must step up to acknowledge this irrefutable truth to stop the downward spiral of black America as well as America as a whole.

    Blaming whitey (“environmental source”) as Jews have promoted limits black leaders to the Jew-induced golem status and leaves them with no credibility among the clear thinkers, although it sure brings them emotional support from among those who habitually spew black anger and rage, the precursor of all the far-to-common black violence.

    Right now we are going through a period of history where the dominant whites are remarkably tolerant of the defective societal skills of blacks. If and when whites tire of all the tolerance – the blacks will be in big trouble.

    Whites have been falling all over themselves for over 50 years to be fair and respectful to blacks to the point most whites when interacting with blacks make themselves appear as phony in the eyes of other whites who know that demeanor is not universally extended to fellow whites. So we hear all these non-credible cries of “wolf”:

    As we have seen in the Smollett case – modern day blacks do not experience much if any classical racism. There is so little classical racism in everyday life that blacks have to create their own racism incidents.

  451. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Nonsense. They were not citizens at the time. Laws of the day would not have allowed them to pull the ‘anchor baby’ bullshit.

  452. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Also, the word “deportation” itself has shifted a bit in nuance since the 1860s. Today it has a connotation of expulsion by force, but back then it didn’t.

    It was known as “colonization”.  It was not overly popular but Marcus Garvey was its biggest spokeman, IIUC.

    https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/african/afam002.html

  453. anarchyst says:
    @anonymous

    Negroes are not all physical supermen, BUT, they have a nasty habit of not ever fighting one-on-one, always using superior numbers (fighting in “packs”) to attack their victims.
    The only solution is to travel armed, and blast the first one to attack. The rest of the “pack” will scurry off…

    • Agree: Alden
  454. Mr. Rational: “It was known as “colonization”. It was not overly popular but Marcus Garvey was its biggest spokeman, IIUC.”

    Lincoln used the word “deportation” as much or more than “colonization”, according to DiLorenzo. Although he was indeed probably the most well known negro advocate of return to Africa, Marcus Garvey (1887-1940) was born in Jamaica well after the Civil War, and had nothing to do with Lincoln and his so-called plan.

    Jim in Jersey: “Nonsense. They were not citizens at the time. Laws of the day would not have allowed them to pull the ‘anchor baby’ bullshit.”

    So what? It remains true that the vast majority had been born here, and had no desire to leave. Do you really think Lincoln didn’t realize this? The idea that all the negroes were going to volunteer to leave was a fantasy, a joke from the beginning.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    , @Anon
  455. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    I never suggested asking them…

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  456. Anon[239] • Disclaimer says:

    You live in a state or metro area with a 20 percent black population I assume? What a country that there are entire states where everybody carries because you can be killed between your front door and the car in the driveway.

    Why should people have to have carry guns and turn their homes into fortresses because the government allows such high levels of black crime.

    Pay taxes for useless police and then pay to defend yourself from blacks and Hispanics

    Alden

  457. Anon[239] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    I totally agree. Most blacks kept their same jobs, stayed in the same homes in familiar areas. Most didn’t move north or west in the USA let alone get in a ship to Africa. Did Lincoln ever make plans to pay for it? They would have to be fed sheltered clothed medical care as soon as they left their homes.

    The cash crop economy of the south was heavily dependent on black labour. The southern farmers needed the blacks. The Freedmens Bureau and reconstruction needed the blacks. It would never have happened I always thought it was just part of Lincoln’s strategy to stay in office for a second term.

    Alden

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
  458. @Jim in Jersey

    African-Americans are a composite of 20 different tribes. Which ancestral country should they choose?

    And none of them have relatives there. They have no idea what villages their distant ancestors were from.

    Moreover, they are 20% white. Mostly British. Why not send them back to UK?

    Also, which African country wants ex-cons and parolees?

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  459. @Anon

    It has been suggested that had the government simply passed a law against slavery and gave the slaveowners fair price for them, the entire civil war could have been avoided.

    Same is true, I would imagine, for the cost of shipping them back to their home ports. Or Liberia. Either way would have been a better alternative to leaving them here, unsupervised and reproducing.

    Our present position will bear me out.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    , @Alden
  460. Ngubu says:
    @NC Realist

    “… he believed in the city and knew it would continue to rise”

    I keep seeing “rise” rhetoric used in reference to failing minority communities. Double plus good newspeak.

  461. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    It’s obvious your tales are made up. Authentic Irish bars in NYC full of welfare drunks don’t exist any more. They are upscale artificial bars with good live music now. Most black on White attacks are not random. Blacks always drive or take buses miles to White neighborhoods to rob rape murder and attack us. And it’s always 3 to 1 at least. Most of those random fights aren’t random at all. The black pack roams around picking fights with Whites so they can justify a pack attack.

    You’re such a loser you couldn’t even make a living or find a wife in White America. So you cruise around the internet sneering at and making up stories about American Whites.

    You do realize that we either remember or can look at your comment history. We remember all those tales about growing up in the White slums of Detroit attending Detroit public middle and high schools full of White teenage prostitutes drug addicts and criminals. Then there’s the poverty stricken grandmother in her White Detroit slum.

    Then suddenly it’s not the White slums of Detroit but Warren Mi. The poverty stricken grandmother is a well paid public school teacher married; whose husband had a decent job. The White slums of Detroit middle school full of 13 year old White prostitutes and drug addicts is now a Catholic school. You’re not even a successful liar. Successful liars create a story and stick to it.

    Whatever your religion, ethnicity and race you’re not White. You hate Whites, it’s obvious.

    Most li

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
  462. Alden says:
    @anonymous

    Jeff gets all his ideas from TV movies and fiction.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  463. @Jeff Stryker

    which African country wants ex-cons and parolees?

    They’ll take anything that comes with a reasonable amount of cash attached.

    This is why I suggested open-air prisons in Liberia.  Pay the locals to run the parts of it that they can.  Let the inmates do what they want as long as they show up for bed count, which is how their term will be measured.  If they wander off they stop accumulating time, if they run afoul of the locals they’re not our problem any more.

  464. @Jim in Jersey

    It has been suggested that had the government simply passed a law against slavery and gave the slaveowners fair price for them, the entire civil war could have been avoided.

    The North intended to milk the South with high tariffs; PAYING them to give up the slaves was right out.

  465. Alden says:
    @Jim in Jersey

    I know southerners really disagree on the point in going to make here.

    The Charles Beard theory that it was primarily an eco mic war to take over the vast resources of the south and take advantage of the cheap White and black labor resulting from the war isn’t opinion.

    The northerners pushed and pushed for decades until the southern fools attacked Fort Sumpter. I’ve read Calhoun’s essays about states rights and he made a good case for secession. But the reality is it was an economic war and the south lost and suffered for 100 years

  466. @Alden

    ALDEN

    Well the idea that blacks ride the bus ten miles to white neighborhoods to commit crimes is untrue. Most whites who are in harm’s way are not wealthy Jews living in Scarsdale. They are working-class whites in proximity of low income blacks.

    This I did not see on television.

    • Replies: @Alden
  467. Alden: ” Did Lincoln ever make plans to pay for it? ”

    Plans? More like pipedreams. But most don’t know that in 1864, he directed his Secretary of War to dispatch a vessel to Santo Domingo to bring back any negroes who had been “colonized” but wanted to return (apparently all of them). He was quite specific about federal funding for that!

    https://books.google.com/books?id=uEc_cG58dZQC&pg=PA19

    Alden: ” It would never have happened I always thought it was just part of Lincoln’s strategy to stay in office for a second term. ”

    Yes, absolutely. As his actions showed, he really was an abolitionist all along, and also a savvy enough politician to lie about it. The Lincoln fan club on the right, aided and abetted by false histories of that era propounded by the likes of Thomas DiLorenzo and Jared Taylor, is a real embarrassment. They like to pretend that Lincoln contemplated an ethnic cleansing by force, when in reality he was the principal architect of the multi-racial mess America has become. In a round about way, even the responsibility for Tyler Wingate’s death can be laid at Lincoln’s doorstep. Who needs Jews when you have white leaders like Lincoln?

    Jim in Jersey: “I never suggested asking them…”

    Unfortunately, Lincoln did.

    • Replies: @ben sampson
  468. eah says:

    Have not looked at news about this case for a while; but pertinent current facts are: the guy who was charged with the murder in absentia is still on the run; while Wingate went to HS in Berkley, MI, he did not live there:

    Sharlee Wingate said Tyler lived with two friends in the Boston Edison district and bought a house about five blocks from where he was beaten that he planned to rehab with two others.

    So that answers the question about what he was doing in that area at that hour of the morning: he lived nearby.

    From the same article: He loved his pit bull dog, Odin, … He loved to rap as much as he loved music …. He also loved Detroit, his stepmother Sharlee Wingate told the Free Press on Wednesday, even though he grew up in its suburbs…

    The incident happened at the intersection of Livernois and W Davison in Detroit (in front of a gas station) — this is zip code 48238 — this zip code is 96% black.

    Wrap your heads around that: this young guy was naive enough to buy and live in a house located in a Detroit ghetto that is 96% black (some stories say his family was concerned and tried to talk him out of it).

    Anyway, one has to say it’s possible he was something of a ‘wigger’ — who knows though — the foto used in most stories about his death seems a bit old — below is what looks like a more recent one:

    • Replies: @eah
    , @Mr. Rational
    , @Alden
  469. eah says:
    @eah

    Also there was apparently someone else in his vehicle:

    Wingate, 24, was killed at around 1 a.m. Monday, July 22. According to a press release from Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy, he was driving with an unidentified passenger on Livernois Avenue when they crashed into another vehicle. Wingate and his passenger got out of their vehicle and walked to a nearby gas station.

    Presumably the authorities know who this passenger was, but feel no need to say (understandable: whoever it was likely witnessed a murder and the suspect is still at large) — you wonder if it was a young woman: I’ve not seen a report where someone tried to help him when he was being beaten.

    The coroner said the cause of death was blunt force trauma to the head and neck, and he was more or less killed at the scene (pronounced dead after transport to a hospital) — it takes a lot of sustained, brutal force to kill a young man by hitting and kicking him on/around the head.

    • Replies: @eah
  470. @eah

    From the same article: … He loved to rap as much as he loved music

    That just screams “wigger”.

    He was almost certainly lost to us already.  At least he helped by giving us more proof of The Talk, Non-Black Version just as Heidi Lynn Walker gave more proof that mudsharking is suicidal (and deadly to your children, like her daughter Savannah).

    Avoid the groid.

  471. Alden says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Moron.

    Scarsdale Ny is served by an excellent train and bus commuter system to the city. Blacks can ride the trains and buses to wherever they want. They also have cars and can drive or didn’t you know that?

    You may have heard of the murder of Martha Moxley in Halloween in Greenwich Conn allegedly by The nephew of Ethel and Robert Kennedy about 40? Years ago. Greenwich Conn is one of the wealthiest Whitist town in the country. Yet that Halloween the town had dozens of black New York kids and young people who came out on the train to enjoy the Greenwich town Halloween party. They all went back to NY on the last train.

    New York Metro Area is served by highways, roads, trains light rail buses and subways that go all over Long Island. Connecticut Pennsylvania and New Jersey. There’s express buses and trains to Montreal.

    So it’s totally possible for NYC and suburban blacks to get to Scarsdale, or any other town in and around NYC

    Another example. UCLA is located in one of the safest Whitest part of Los Angeles, Westwood. For decades UCLA had a wonderful carnival fiesta on Memorial Day Weekend. It was great for families if you wanted to stay in town.

    But UCLA had to close and relocate the carnival in the 90’s because Watts, South Central, Inglewood and Compton black kids rode metro buses for hours to get to Westwood and rampage around the carnival. I worked late one Friday before Memorial Day. The carnival opened that afternoon. About 7 pm I saw hordes and hordes of young black thugs getting off the buses from downtown and running up Westwood av to the carnival. UCLA stopped having the carnival on campus after that. The UCLA police and extra LAPD and other police were hired every year but the only solution was to close this wonderful carnival that brought joy and entertainment to the whole neighborhood.

    Only takes about 1 1/2 hours from Inglewood and S Central. But about 2 1/2 hours from Watts, but they came. They also drove north in the convenient US highway 5.

    Westwood, West Los Angeles Beverly Hills crime rate has gone down a lot since 2000 when the black neighborhoods tipped to Hispanic. Blacks used to drive from Watts on the 10 freeway and Compton Inglewood and S central on the 5 freeway to the wealthiest Whitest neighborhoods in California to rob steal and rampage.

    Blacks from Oakland, Richmond and Pittsburgh Ca use the convenient BART subway as well as the hundreds of commuter and county buses to terrorize the entire East Bay. They also own cars and drive them all over using the highway street and road system.

    You insert the most ignorant comments into every thread for the purpose of sneering at the poor White trash you hate so much. You seem to absolutely rejoice in the idea that big strong blacks can rob beat and murder poor White trash because the Whites are so poor they have to live near blacks. And so small they can’t fight back.

    Sometimes I doubt you’ve ever lived in the US at all your comments are so ignorant. More likely you’re living in some kind of fantasy getting off on the idea of big strong blacks beating up White men and pimping 13 year old White prostitutes

    Bel Air Ca is like Greenwich Conn only with even more expensive homes due to the price differential between the coasts. The owners have all sorts of security patrols, gated communities and alarm systems. Yet the neighborhood has a very high burglary rate by blacks despite being miles from the nearest black neighborhood.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  472. Alden says:
    @eah

    Too bad he didn’t have the pit bull in the car. Living in Detoilet he’d need a pit bull, better 2 or 3, uncastrated males.

    Detroit has given up on government funded sports stadiums, business centers etc. it’s now trying to recruit immigrant small businesses and private gentrification of homes and apartments. It worked in the Fillmore and Protero neighborhoods of San Francisco. But SF was never more than 11 percent black. But Detroit’s latest attempt to save itself involves luring Whites and immigrants with the idea that they can buy houses for $10,000, fix it up and sell for maybe $50,000.

    Check out ruins of Detroit and Detroit real estate listings unbelievably low prices. Moving houses is a pain and expensive. But there are some incredible buys in Detoilet.

    Wingate probably planned to repair and sell that house. He picked the wrong city.
    I’ve read that the gentrification of Oakland has failed due to the fact that the blacks are still there.

    Thanks for the information

  473. Alden says:
    @ben sampson

    He was rehabbing real estate and made the mistake of living in the house he was rehabbing.
    If Detoilet had remained White the city would be as prosperous as it was in 1940.

    There’s a list of the 12 most dangerous cities in the US. Stockton and Modesto Ca because of the Hispanics All the rest are black hellholes like Oakland, St Louis Detoilet Memphis New Orleans Camden NJ Atlanta Baltimore black black black. 100 years ago Oakland residential real estate was more expensive than San Francisco because of the sun, warmer weather and bigger house lots.

    Whites build cities blacks destroy cities. There’s not one city or town in America that’s been improved or stayed stabile with a black population increase. At 15 percent the decline begins. At 20 percent the decline is irreversible.

    From Big cities like Atlanta and New Orleans to small towns like Selma Alabama Whites build blacks destroy

    • Replies: @ben sampson
  474. Alden says:
    @Alden

    The barely above retard black man who burnt Jessica Lynch to death is a typical Black serial killer. He killed 3 young women in 3 separate incidents.

    As usual Jeff, your information about serial killers comes from movies not law enforcement.

  475. @Alden

    how would a Black mayor of a predominantly Black mayor of a demographically Black american city produce good governance, prosperity, excellent services, satisfied citizens, low or no crime, good citizen health etc etc etc?

    don’t you people here realize that there is absolutely no way to produce that in the USA..indeed anywhere in the world for the people unless they go the opposite route to what the capitalist does. Capitalism is parasitic, feed off the people. the only way the people can make a life for themselves is to prevent this, keep their money in the cities invested and re- invested to secure their own local prosperity.

    that puts a dent into capitalist profits..the big corps etc, and simultaneously relocates political power to the locality. that’s a bad example and the corporate capitalist state wont allow it. that does not happen in any american city. the american cities that are prosperous are they really? no report I see establishes the prosperity of any american city. the reports also establishes the general decline in all american economic indexes, the rise of strangling debt that compromise the entire american nation economically.

    that is the question I ask all of you..how does the mayor do it..if he/she wanted to?

    the mayor cannot do it. if he tries he will be overthrown like any banana republic dictator or Gaddafi of a leader, prolly killed in the process

    that is one factor that put the lie to the awful attitude in these pages towards African Americans on all levels.

    then there is this fact: the nature of Black power in the USA. it is the same as all power anywhere. it is status quo. the Black people who run cities in the USA are just like white people who do the same in their cities..they are all Elites protecting their collective elite social interest which is aligned with the capitalist interest..the status quo

    that is the society in which we live..a class society in which the interest of the elites are minded by all elites Black white and otherwise. the interest of ordinary Black Americans is not in tandem with the Black elites but with all ordinary people who work for a living like they do. I never expected the Black elites to solve Black material social problems where they lead..they cant do that, it is not in the interest to do so, and they wont do it. I expected them to look after themselves as part of the elites..period. and that is exactly what they have done and are doing.

    Black americans must not look to Black leaders for solutions. there wont be any and there are none. the cities get worse in fact under Black leadership. it is deliberate..planned. how else could it be: it is how the status quo wins, how it makes money and maintains social control

    I saw a video on Bitchute recently in which a prominent Black person lamented the fact that with the rise of Black leadership all over the USA to unprecedented levels, it coincides with a massive drop in Black achievement. he demonstrated with facts and figure the tremendous levels of achievement of Black Americans when they had no leaders like they do currently. but with the rise of leaders and the significant Black middle and elite classes achievement had dropped and dropped every year decade

    big surprise eh. the black elites simply identify with their interest that’s all..which became elitist. they are all rich now, upper crust and their wealth has nothing to do with the masses of Black people. I mean the rise of the Black gentry and elite can be considered a major act of political bribery and social corruption. allowing the encouraging the rise of the black elite has produced these results, the social reality we must deal with currently…Black cities over run with rats and crime

    you guys call it race..the inferiority and destructiveness of the Black race. but it is not that at all. it is class warfare..and the whites as well as the Blacks appear to be fooled by it all. I mean I read all the racial nastiness written here about Black people..not none of the people here I imagined are anywhere near the social position and power of the black elites in the USA. you can run your mouths all you want but that is the reality or real elitist Black power and Trump is not going to change it. it is not in his social interest to change..he is a rich man and he will never put the interest of the ordinary above that of the rich..even if it is rich Black

    that is the way I look at…you guys appear to be dead wrong to me. you are aligned to the wrong side, the wrong issue. the issue is not race at all..but class warfare. the rich makes money off us and it is in their interest to keep us focused as we are..not on them and their criminal exploitation of society and every thing that exists..but on each other.

    • LOL: Pepe the Frog
  476. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Dr Morgan let me draw your attention to a book by historians Phillip Magness and Sebastian page that argues successfully apparently, on the basis of new documents found in both English and American archives that Lincoln never gave up his his plans for deportation/colonization and was actively carrying them through towards the time of his death

    the name of the book is:

    Colonization after Emancipation: Lincoln and the Movement for Black Resettlement

    • Replies: @Malla
  477. LiveFree says:
    @anarchyst

    Here was your problem: You were being “post racial” and Blacks will never be in that state of mind. Never.

  478. LiveFree says:
    @ben sampson

    Ben, I suggest that you leave your bubble from time to time. Maybe then you’d understand what the hell is going on.

  479. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    I admit that I operate on a bias relative to Abraham Lincoln. I haven ever ever had a complimentary view of the man

    I always read Lincoln as Bucra..a mulatto with strong anti black attitude, a type of figure whom I grew up around, plentiful in my place and time. they were not nice people to understate the case.. fair to almost white Black people, and my response to Lincoln was according to that.

    later when I read those who claimed Lincoln to be just that..Black, I was sort of relived for I had sensed it long before

    I don’t like Lincoln at all as a historical figure..on any level, as anything he is acclaimed for. I don’t regard Lincoln a great president but as a better politician. his proclamation freed no one..it was a calculated document the highlight of a sharp political/propaganda game to defeat the confederacy. it was successful but he had freed no one

  480. @ben sampson

    correction…1860’s not 1960’s

  481. @Alden

    ALDEN

    I said that your chances of trouble decrease the further you are from the inner-city. I didn’t say it never happened.

    Of course it does.

    Do I rejoice in the idea of lower-income or middle-class whites being in harm’s way of minority crime?

    No, I am one.

  482. @Alden

    ALDEN

    Detroit will never gentrify and property value will never rise. If you purchase a mansion there for $1000, you are losing money, because in five years it will be worth less.

    All Michigan state government attempts to attract money into Detroit have failed. It is just to dangerous.

    It is like trying to attract tourists to Haiti.

    And Detroit is cold and grey in the bargain. If it were Miami, it might be different.

  483. LiveFree says:
    @jack daniels

    “Next to zero problem with non-Whites” ??? Seems we’ve got someone here who believes in Paint Job Theory. Good God.

  484. @Malla

    Here in my adopted country of the Philippines, there are only blacks in Manila. I live 520km from Manila and lived in Manila for a year then moved out to the providences. I have not seen an african black in 3 years now! Blacks do not want to come here either thanks to President Rody Duterte who has unleashed a deadly war on drugs (meth) here. The police are totally cool here and where I live zero traffic laws are enforced which can be a blessing or curse depending on opinion (but I don’t sweat looking in my rearview mirror or on my motorcycles)

    Truly a paradise for someone who grew up in the suburbs of Detroit. No “shines” in my Barangay!

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  485. @From Detroit suburbs to rural Philippines

    Blacks don’t use meth. Blacks like cocaine, the drug of choice for rich Chinese-Filipinos and Korean expats.

    Its 3000 Pesos a gram, depending on who you know.

    My experience with African-Americans was that they were retirees really too old to be smokin’ shabs in the slums.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  486. @Piglet

    One incident involved a group of black GIs who found two German girls having a picnic by a lake and they gang-raped them. Back here this sort of thing is almost considered “normal”

    So normal it happens to less than 0.0o5% of white women.

    Everything you write is false.

    • Replies: @Piglet
  487. @Alden

    That would exclude you (Piglet’s alt account)

  488. anarchyst says:
    @eah

    The only form of “government” that blacks thrive under is the “strongman” dictatorial form of “government”. The higher the status of the individual “citizen”, the closer he is allowed to sit to the “chief”. Attempting to impose a constitutional representative republican type of government on blacks is a recipe for abject failure. Blacks are “wired” differently than other races, and cannot grasp or comprehend the advantages of having a representative form of government. The “strongman” type of government is the only way blacks can have a somewhat functional society…as any digression from their societal “norms” is punished almost immediately without resorting to courts or any “legal system”.

  489. @Alden

    Houses selling for tiny sums aren’t a bargain, they’re a warning. There’s a reason no one wants them. There’s a reason no one wants to live there.

  490. ben sampson: “… Lincoln never gave up his his plans for deportation/colonization and was actively carrying them through towards the time of his death [recommends book purporting to show this]”

    Again, so what? Lincoln’s so-called plan was a joke that relied on negroes volunteering to leave. Unfortunately, the joke was played most heavily on future generations of whites whom he betrayed. But this is a time-honored tradition in America. George Washington played the same cruel joke when he freed his slaves upon his death, instead of shipping them back or executing them. How many whites have been murdered, raped, or robbed by the descendants of those slaves? We’ll never know. The joke was played again by whites of the so-called “Greatest Generation”, when they passed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and integrated the schools. How many of their descendants have had their lives ruined by direct and indirect results of this? It must be millions, a total to which the subject of this article, Tyler Wingate, adds just one more. Trying to integrate negroes into white society has proven to be a disaster. It can’t be done without destroying it.

    If someone ever writes a book proving that Lincoln intended to round up negroes and “resettle” them elsewhere BY FORCE, I’ll read it. Anything less is just a waste of time.

  491. @Jeff Stryker

    Most US blacks in the Philippines, with a few exceptions, seem laid-back and OK, and are better behaved than some of the white drunkards. Many seem to be long term expats since the days of the military bases, or long-term visitors, so know the ropes and how not to step out of line. The locals there wouldn’t stand for any nonsense from them if they tried to act as in US, and as you say many move to the Philippines to get away from all that.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  492. eah says:
    @eah

    It appears there has now been an arrest:

    • Replies: @eah
  493. eah says:
    @eah

    Lawrence Davis, suspect in beating that killed Berkley high graduate denied bond during arraignment

    Lawrence Davis, the 24-year-old Detroit man suspected of beating a man to death after a car accident was denied a bond during his arraignment.

    “The maximum penalty is life imprisonment,” said a judge speaking to Davis.

    In the first court appearance in the beating case that left 25-year-old Tyler Wingate a Berkley high school graduate, much of the victim’s family turned out to see the alleged killer for the first time.

    An attorney briefly walked members of the court through what transpired the night of July 22.

    Early in the morning, Davis got into an accident while driving near Davison and Livernois on the city’s west side. Driving without a license, he crashed into Tyler Wingate.

    “The defendant gets out of the vehicle irate and angry and ready to start a fight,” said the prosecutor.

    Davis is seen on a gas station surveillance video punching Wingate in the face and knocking him to the ground. Prosecutors then said Davis went through Wingate’s pockets and robbed him.

    “The victim was defenseless, woozy, unarmed, acting very calmly and at this point in time, the defendant continued to brutally assault the victim in the case,” said the prosecutor.

    However, it was a final kick to the head before Davis fled that the prosecutor said was what killed Wingate. Davis wouldn’t be seen by officials for a week, hiding out at several locations, before police arrested him without incident at an apartment complex.

    Detroit Police Chief James Craig said Davis had help from others who knew what happened.

    “They knew he was involved in this horrible crime and they did nothing to assist us,” Craig said. “That’s a problem for me.”

    However, Davis’s aunt said her nephew has had a hard life and didn’t mean to kill Wingate.

    “We give our condolences – our nephew is hurting too,” said his aunt. “People don’t understand, mistakes happen.”

    Due to the week of Davis missing, his judge denied him bond.

    “A person’s life was lost, terminated. Somebody died in this matter,” said the judge. “There is no bond. Do you understand that sir?”

    “Yes ma’am,” responded Davis.

    • Replies: @eah
    , @Mr. Rational
  494. saneworld says:

    reading the ” anarchyst says: July 23, 2019″ comments… wow…

    This same problem has been happening for decades. The ‘poopetmasters’ own the blacks and use them against the whites, remember the ‘Civil Rights’ movement.. it never ends and the blacks or POCs are always victims, while the Whites are really set up to be victims but don’t have a clue..right?

    Whites were slaves in huge 1ook numbers in America long before the blacks…do you ever here about that? The same running the slave ships then, are the same running this slave and victimhood agenda today. Always forever pointing fingers away from themselves while at the same time making it criminal to even say who the real ‘master’ and predator is…

    Jeffrey Dahmer as well as most serial killers you have ever heard of is part of this tribe… are they a race or a religion….or… you can’t talk about them, but they scream about how wonderful they are …but don’t you dare say any thing … they are the chosen!

  495. eah says:
    @eah

    Suspect arrested in beating death of Berkley man at Detroit gas station

    Detroit Police Chief James Craig held a press conference around 3:15 Tuesday where he said Davis had been arrested in an apartment complex in the 23500 block of west Eight Mile. Craig would not comment on what, in their investigation, led to the apartment complex, but he thanked citizens for calling in tips and said officers’ relentless follow up, led them to Davis.

    “Every time a person is murdered in City of Detroit, it is a priority,” Craig said, regarding the urgency to solve the crime.

    Craig said that they believe there were friends or family helping Davis hide and that Davis had gone to multiple locations in the week between the fatal beating and the arrest on Tuesday.

    “(We have) no idea how long he had been there. He was moving around, we know that through investigative work,” Craig said.

    He did not say if anyone possibly helping Davis hide would be charged.

    They better be.

  496. @Commentator Mike

    MIKE

    Let us say you joined the Air Force when you were 18 and for the next 30 years you enjoyed a safe standard of living on bases as a mechanic or radar operator. The accommodation was not like Megan Markle’s but it’s alright on bases. MP’s keep bases fairly safe. And of course they are clean.

    Then one day you are mustered out. You’re fifty years old.

    You go from a nice apartment off-base in Japan and civilized people back to a graffiti-scrawled ghetto full of crack dealers. Gangs roam around the place. The police are not much better than the gangs and show you zero respect even though you are twice their age.

    I knew an UK RAF retiree like that. He was not living in a council, but near one. His neighborhood was full of cider-swilling chavs who were 14 and had a kid. Spice zombies (A drug that thankfully never caught on in the States) staggered all over. Its rainy and cold. I think he was from Sheffield.

    Some white drunkards get beat up in SEA. It happens. I’ve heard of it. I knew one American guy who assaulted a ladyboy who came up to him and some Filipinos beat him up. I also knew of a Finnish stewardess who got a kick out of hanging around girly bars in downtown Cebu at midnight and who was raped by Filipinos.

    As for drugs, well, you will sell your house to get out of a Philippine jail. And the cops know that. You’ll liquidate and the cops will be rich. And they you will be back in your own country homeless and broke.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  497. Malla says:
    @ben sampson

    Colonization after Emancipation: Lincoln and the Movement for Black Resettlement

    Black resettlement would have been a good thing. In Liberia, American blacks would not have faced racism, Jim Crow, would be back in the Muddaland away from Whte debils. Yet most blacks wanted to live with White debils, created by Yakub the mad black scientist. In Liberia, the American blacks enslaved the indigenous Africans and started their own plantations.

    In 1929 allegations of modern slavery in Liberia led the League of Nations to establish the Christy commission. Findings included government involvement in widespread “Forced or compulsory labour”. Minority indigenous African ethnic groups especially were exploited in a system that enriched well-connected American black descended elites. Dats rite!! As a result of the report, President Charles D. B. King and Vice President Allen N. Yancy of Liberia resigned.

    If I am not mistaken when the Gold Coast/Ghana got independence, Kwame Nkrumah, first Prime Minister of Ghana invited blacks from the new World to go to Ghana. Those black Americans threw their American passports in the beach promising never to return to evul America full of White debils. But one week later many of those black Americans returned in the the night, searching for their American passports in the beach. Dats rite!! LOL.

    BTW freedom fighter and PM Nkrumah deployed troops to Togoland to quell unrest following a disputed plebiscite on membership in the new country. Dats rite!! A serious bus strike in Accra stemmed from resentments among the Ga people, who believed members of other tribes were getting preferential treatment in government promotion, and this led to riots there in August. Nkrumah’s response was to repress local movements by the Avoidance of Discrimination Act (6 December 1957), which banned regional or tribally-based political parties. Dats rite!! Nkrumah and his CPP party got most local traditional Ashanti chiefs who were not party supporters destooled. Dats rite!! These repressive actions concerned the opposition parties, who came together to form the United Party under Kofi Abrefa Busia. Dats rite!!

    Freakin awesome.

    • Replies: @ben sampson
  498. @Malla

    who moderates these threads…their authors?

    that would make sense: Paul Kersey for example would be the Youtube-ish mod of this thread, who takes forever to publish my comments. hours later I still have 2 comments awaiting moderation. does Ron Unz know that his authors/mods, whoever they are, are trending towards censorship?

    looming white racist police-state censorship…?

    anyway Malla why don’t you simply write like who you are? sliding into that above there makes you look like an idiot. I am sure you are not.

    I have got to set me up a site to hang pictures of white perps of crime on Black people in the world..and historically too. man! what a pantheon that would make!!!

    that job is prolly beyond my skills, worthy of the vast intellectual capability of a Ron Unz.. to collate and collar, then render into something legible we can digest in these pages..like he has done for white crime in the USA generally..white crime, a monstrous fact, a truly large and comprehensive and continuous thing..from the start of the USA to currently, without pause, cease and let

    and the Americans were behind Monrovia too, from its start to now. Liberia is a corrupt piece of crap then, always was..never a day of true independence.

    Liberia is like that poster who lives in the Phillipines, the potential killer white who points at Black people living there in the Phillipines as primitive, potentially destabilizing social factor on that alleged fact alone.

    but it is not the Black migrant in the phillipines who is a destabilizing factor at all, as Monrovia for eg., as a always was and is, as an American creation on African soil.

    Black people are a foundation factor in the Phillipines, from time immemorial. the destabilizing factor now and an on-going potential is the white american living there..any white american living there there for any seeming purpose. there is always that danger… of undermining purpose below the surface of western white people congregated anywhere in the world

    lets see if the mod is going to release this comment..and the other 2 he is holding up

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    , @Malla
  499. @eah

    Davis’s aunt said her nephew has had a hard life and didn’t mean to kill Wingate.

    “We give our condolences – our nephew is hurting too,” said his aunt. “People don’t understand, mistakes happen.”

    There was no “mistake” in driving without a license.  There was no “mistake” in getting violent after a wreck that he no doubt caused.  And there was no “mistake” in harboring a fugitive from justice.

    The entire family was involved in creating the murderous monster.  They should all be punished along with him as accessories both before and after the fact.

  500. @Jeff Stryker

    As for drugs, well, you will sell your house to get out of a Philippine jail.

    Not following you here.  You mean, if you deal drugs?

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  501. @ben sampson

    Black people are a foundation factor in the Phillipines, from time immemorial.

    You’re insane.  Blacks (other than a tiny minority of indigenous Negritos in the hills) were NEVER in the Phillipines until the Spanish showed up.  The 1920 census counted fewer than 8,000 Africans out of 10.3 million total.

    lets see if the mod is going to release this comment..and the other 2 he is holding up

    We have seen enough of the delusional notions of Africans-in-America, thank you very much.

  502. Malla says:
    @ben sampson

    Black people are a foundation factor in the Phillipines, from time immemorial.

    What????
    You mean the primitive negritos before the Mongoloids moved in.

    anyway Malla why don’t you simply write like who you are?

    What does this mean?

    sliding into that above there makes you look like an idiot.

    No it does not.

    but it is not the Black migrant in the phillipines who is a destabilizing factor at all, as Monrovia for eg., as a always was and is, as an American creation on African soil.

    Rubbish. The USA has helped Liberia a lot. Even after all that Liberia is a failure.
    During World War II the United States made major infrastructure improvements to support its military efforts in Africa and Europe against the Third Reich. It built the Freeport of Monrovia and Roberts International Airport under the Lend-Lease program before its entry into the Second World War.

    After the war President William Tubman encouraged foreign investment in the country. Liberia had the second-highest rate of economic growth in the world during the 1950s thanks to American help.

    The USA took care of its baby, Liberia but it was a low grade baby.

    there is always that danger… of undermining purpose below the surface of western white people congregated anywhere in the world

    Rubbish. You are right if the White people are Jews (not all Jews but many) or members of alphabetic agencies. White people congregated anywhere in the world means greater chance of civilization and decent standard of living for everyone. Same for the other more evolved high IQ race, North East Asians.

  503. @95Theses

    Very insightful comment but I would argue that what you have stated is also true of many whites and others as well.

    Forcing the people’s of the “United States” and the attendant failure of its representative democracy to stay together cannot and will not work out well. It’s logically and economically impossible and the idea has finally caught up to us.

  504. Oh, and a “United States” and its attendant representative democracy held together by force is morally wrong also.

  505. @Alden

    The bumped the car gambit is probably what happened. It took around eight days to find him. He’s been arraigned, FWIW.

    • Replies: @eah
  506. @Father O'Hara

    Chicago too,I grew up a few blocks north of englewood’s north boarder

  507. eah says:
    @David In TN

    The bumped the car gambit is probably what happened.

    I don’t think so — as I said before, the perp 1) was driving someone else’s car, 2) had no valid license, 3) was probably speeding (in earlier stories, people who either worked or lived nearby said there was as lot of speeding in that area) and 4) was likely up to no good — all of that was very bad news for him since it meant the cops were sure to be involved (it appears neither car was drivable after the accident) — so for all those reasons, the accident probably really pissed him off, and he took it out on the victim — I have not seen where the perp has a rap sheet except for a lot of moving violations (license repeatedly suspended) — in one early story it said he had a history of violence, but did not mention any previous criminal arrests, so maybe it was school fights etc — more on his record (if he has one) will probably come out later — I also read where the video shows him robbing the motionless victim (going thru his pockets).

    It looks more like the victim was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    Also one story mentioned there was another (unidentified) person in the car with the victim (it appears several black males were in the perp’s car) — of course the police know who this person is, but no doubt withheld the info to protect him/her (a witness to a murder) — above I speculated it might be a woman because there was no report of anyone trying to help him when he was being beaten — on the gofundme.com page setup for the victim’s family, there is a foto of him in a car with a woman.

    • Replies: @eah
  508. eah says:
    @eah

    more on his record (if he has one) will probably come out later

    He has a criminal past, mostly (but not entirely) as a juvenile:

    Troubled history of suspect in beating of Berkley man at Detroit gas station

    On March 23, 2011, Davis was charged with assault with intent to murder and, at the age of 15, was tried as an adult.

    He pleaded guilty to weapons charges and was sentenced to between 29 and 57 months in prison. But the sentence was delayed and he bounced around youth programs and lived with relatives – while testing positive for marijuana and getting involved in an incident at his guardian’s apartment complex.

    By October 2013, when Davis was 18, the court ruled that Davis had “Received the maximum benefit from services provided and is no longer a danger to community or himself.”

    That may have been wishful thinking.

    Two years later, just days before his 20th birthday, Davis pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct. The following year, he was charged with domestic violence for assaulting his aunt.

    That the case was dismissed when she failed to appear in court.

    He’s due back in court later this month.

  509. Applebee says:

    I agree with a lot of the things you say.
    The crime in Detroit is bad.
    You have to have a little sense.
    He put himself in a bad situation by moving there.
    I feel bad for him, but he was young and nieve I guess.
    It’s not a good place for anyone to live I think.

  510. @Mr. Rational

    You’re screwed for possessing any kind of drug but dealing will get you locked upfor years while possession will get you jailed briefly and then deported.

    If you are in possession of grass, no. You can buy your way out of that.

    Coke is a different matter. Heroin too. Meth especially as that is a scourge.

    You’re going to do time for possession and then be deported.

  511. Piglet says:
    @Sam Coulton

    Sam, I was there for a 2.5-year tour in the 1970s and I was back for 4.5 years in the 1980s. As far as I know, you were never there. If you have anything other than denials to offer based on any experience(s) you actually had there, I’m all ears.

  512. Piglet says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Being an economist does not disqualify DiLorenzo from having an excellent understanding of history and lying politicians. In fact, it probably qualifies him far more than the average person, to include historians intent upon perpetuating comforting, but completely false, myths in their own books.

    Despite the blather offered in politicians’ speeches about going to war for high-minded reasons, invariably we learn in the aftermath that economic considerations were the true reasons. These would include control of natural resources, land with strategic value, money, etc. Wars are never fought for someone else’s benefit.

    You mentioned Lincoln giving blacks the right to vote. Rather than doing a favor to blacks, I see this more as a way of controlling the recently-conquered South, where many whites had lost their voting rights, by weaponizing blacks against them. The South was conquered territory and those who had resisted the North would have little or no say in the aftermath.

    You ask me to believe Lincoln wanted equality for blacks, based on his speeches. Given a choice between what documents in archives found in both the US and the UK that confirm Lincoln’s intention to deport blacks, revealing his true intentions, vs. what he may have said in a speech, I’m going with the documents. It’s like asking me to believe the words of LBJ, Nixon, McNamara, etc., over what was revealed about their true intentions in the Pentagon Papers.

    Politicians lie. That’s Job No. 1. No one should ever believe them, even if their faces end up on coins.

    Here’s something else revealed by DiLorenzo in his book Lincoln Unmasked:

    Lincoln opposed the immigration of black people into Illinois; supported the Illinois Black Codes, which deprived the small number of free blacks who resided in the state of any semblance of citizenship; and was a leader of the the Illinois Colonization Society, which persuaded the state legislature to allocate funds to “colonize,” or deport, free blacks. As syndicated columnist Joseph Sobran has remarked, Lincoln’s position was that blacks could be “equal” all right, but not in the United States. He favored “colonizing” them in Africa, Haiti, Central and South American – anywhere but in the United States. This position was supported by the vast majority of Northerners, and Lincoln, as an astute and even brilliant politician, supported it as well.

  513. Piglet: “You ask me to believe Lincoln wanted equality for blacks, based on his speeches. ”

    I don’t really care what you believe. And in fact, what I’ve said is that Lincoln should be judged on the basis of what he did, not just what he said, since he said so many contradictory things, being a liar as he obviously was. On the basis of the result of the war it’s possible to conclude that political equality for negroes was his objective all along. Certainly that is consistent with many of his utterances. That he fooled so many people by saying otherwise, and even a century and a half later still has you and the other members of the Lincoln fan club on the political right fooled, is just a testament to human gullibility. The fact that you STILL believe his anti-negro rhetoric is sincere, even after admitting he is a liar, is mind-boggling to me. Frankly, I have no idea how you do it. But, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, no matter how crazy it seems to me.

    You cite possible economic reasons for the war, and I agree there were some. However, without the slavery issue, I don’t believe there would have been a way to justify it, and the war either would have been avoided or quickly concluded. Nobody would have been willing to march into a fusillade of canon fire and musket fire if it was known the war was just to increase the wealth of a few Northern industrialists. Slavery was the cause of he war, and Lincoln even admits it in his Second Inaugural address.

    As far as DiLorenzo goes, after seeing the dishonest way he frames his narrative, I wouldn’t trust him to give me the correct time of day, nor would I trust anyone who tells me that Lincoln wanted to “deport” the negroes, unless that person also made it clear that Lincoln intended such deportations to be voluntary. It should be obvious that such a scheme would fail, and it was obvious in the nineteenth century too. The plan was a joke from the very beginning, a type of do-gooderism popular with the Christian fanatics who were common in that era. Advocates of voluntary “deportation” saw themselves as fulfilling their Christian obligation to the negro by assisting him to leave, but by no means wanted to forcibly eject him. That, they regarded as sinful.

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  514. @Piglet

    I don’t grasp why Mr. Coulton finds your information so difficult to believe or accept.

    Relatives in mine were in the Navy in the early 1970s, and some were on board the USS Kittyhawk during the October 1972 mutiny and race riots–which were so severe that even Wikipedia admits they took place, though my sources say that the casualty figures listed should have a zero affixed to the end at a bare minimum, and that there were several deaths, all of which the Navy took great pains to hush up. You have to read between the lines of the article, but note the very slim numbers put on trial, despite hundreds of participants, and note how few were found guilty–and how lenient the sentences were.

    When I hear you say that this wasn’t the only race riot on a US military base in the 60s and 70s, I am far from shocked. I do not comprehend this immediate reflexive denial that any such thing could possibly have taken place. Even Wikipedia notes, without saying so in so many words, that immediately afterwards, there were numerous other riots on US ships and military bases led by copycats emboldened by the slap on the wrist the mutineers received on the Kittyhawk. We used to hang mutineers and traitors.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  515. @Pepe the Frog

    Hey look, another piglet alt account.

    • LOL: Pepe the Frog
  516. @Piglet

    If you have any actual documented (by law enforcement) cases of this wave of crime, I’m all eyes. Until then you are just another homeless person shouting and acting as if we are rhe crazy ones.

  517. What a lot of people aren’t realizing is how the Democrats are responsible for the division between our races, they deliberately keep black people believing all Republicans and any white person that votes for Republicans are racists, that’s how they keep your votes, really listen to them, listen to them stoking the fires of racism, and they don’t realize the MSM are a product of the Democrat party. They want you to stay dependent on them so they can stay in power, their ultimate goal is total power, no Republicans at all to offset their greed for total power. I really hope someday the black community wakes up and realizes all white people are not racists. God Bless.

    • Troll: Pepe the Frog
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  518. WSG says:
    @OK Christian

    Yep. If it weren’t for those evil ‘ole Democrats, then these rocket scientists would take us into the new frontier. To Wakanda…and beyond. I don’t know what’s scarier: your delusional level or the fact that these orcs were actually given equal rights.

  519. @9/11 Inside job

    .OK ,,fair enough . But , why don’t you go post on mainstream media sites to correct them whenever they are so careful to note that a racist WHITE man killed a MINORITY in their stories ,,and leave us be ?

  520. Svigor says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Yes, I strongly suspect that “honest Abe” was a reverse nickname widely known at the time to be in jest.

  521. Svigor says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    I think the TL;DR on Yankee “thinking” at the time was that negros were subhuman, they were going to be freed, and they would be kept in the South and be the South’s problem. Not to say there weren’t a lot of idiot Yankees who, in their total ignorance of their subject, believed in human cognitive equality.

    LOL @ stupid Yankees.

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
  522. Svigor says:
    @Svigor

    Forgot to mention; “racism” would have saved this boy’s life.

    I will absolutely do stuff like lock the doors and refuse to get out of my car after an accident when a negro is chimping out, or tell a negro to stop approaching me @ a gas station at 2am when he’s 40′ away but on a bee line for me, or just pull out a knife/gun and brandish it when a strange black says something aggressive to me on the street.

    I don’t want trouble with blacks (faaar from it, since my online history means I will be crucified for simply trying to stay alive), in fact I dread it, but I am far too aware of their personality profiles to be surprised by them.

    Oh, well. I guess being a nice dumb polite unracist conformist is more important than living to a ripe old age, in which case I guess his parents deserve kudos.

  523. Yes, this poor guy was hopelessly naïve.

    Exactly as the White genocidal (((agenda))) intends it.

  524. @Svigor

    I think the reasoning was far more sinister than that. The Yankees knew exactly what the blacks would be used for – a weapon to be used whenever needed.

    It’s been that way ever since.

  525. Anon[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. Pepper

    From Alden

    if There’s a trial it will be in the district court house of the district in which the crime occurred. Black jury black judge, black clerks prosecutor and public defender.
    More likely a plea deal 2 years for involuntary manslaughter and out in parole in 9 months

    Some black preacher will visit him in prison
    “ born again “ him in the visiting room and speak for him at the parole hearing

    Has a suspect been named or arrested yet?

  526. I have a simple rule for myself: If get into a collision with a black motorist, I will not stop my car until I’m out of the hood. I define “hood” as “anywhere in sight of even one black person”.

    I’ll call the police, and I’ll stop at a safe location, preferably a police station, but I won’t stay at the scene unless I’m unable to drive away, and then I won’t exit my car until the police arrive.

  527. @Feedsackroad

    It has happened many times. There was a case like that in my town, in which a latino drive sped away from a mob of blacks after a crash, and his PASSENGER was beaten to death.

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