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His Name Is State Trooper Nick Hopkins: During Execution of Search Warrant, White State Trooper Murdered by Black Career Criminal in East St. Louis
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Shot. Fear of what could happen if the arrest of a black male goes wrong has cops in 70 percent black Baltimore refusing to get out of their squad cars. [Report: Baltimore Police ‘Afraid To Arrest Anyone’ Out Of Fear Of Political Backlash,, August 26, 2019]:

The Washington Post reports that an anonymous survey of 68 Baltimore police officers titled, “Feedback from the Field: A Summary of Focus Groups with Baltimore Police Officers” shows that law enforcement in the city feel low morale, confusion, and lack of support due to the new requirements. They feel the city’s fear of media and political backlash is making their jobs more difficult. “I don’t feel pride for having 20 uses of force,” one officer said while describing the “necessary techniques against an arrestee who tries to ‘wiggle’ out of handcuffs must be documented,” according to WaPo. “Now, I am afraid to arrest anyone because I don’t want to have so many uses of force [documented] against me,” that same officer said. Baltimore Police Commissioner Michael Harrison echoed these claims, saying his men and women have told him similar concerns. “They expressed their challenges with morale and working conditions,” he said. “Some are reluctant for fear of getting hurt or getting in trouble for making mistakes.” The report found that officers feel that as “the Department has been scrutinized by the media and community over the past several years, the command staff and the City have become more concerned with the Department’s image than supporting officers and boosting staff morale.” Because of this, it seems like city leaders are “ready to throw police officers under the bus to appease the media and don’t support us even when our actions are appropriate,” according to one anonymous officer. The city’s reforms also require various internal discipline measures if its determined that a police officer used aggressive force. But, because the city can basically determine anything it wants as crossing a line, police officers even refuse to get out of their squad cars.

Chaser. A white cop who did get of his squad car is now dead, murdered by a black career criminal. Illinois State Police Trooper Nick Hopkins was trying to execute a search warrant in East St. Louis, when he got into a gun battle with Christopher Grant. [Second man charged in connection with Illinois trooper shooting, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, August 26, 2019]:

EAST ST. LOUIS — A second man was charged on Monday in connection with the death of Illinois State Police Trooper Nick Hopkins, even as more information came out regarding the criminal past of Christopher R. Grant, charged with shooting Hopkins to death. The St. Clair County state’s attorney said Al Stewart Jr., 19, hid a .40-caliber Glock handgun after the shooting and possessed marijuana with the intent to distribute. Hopkins, 33, of Waterloo was fatally shot about 5:30 a.m. Friday in an exchange of gunfire as an Illinois State Police SWAT team executed a search warrant at a duplex in the 1400 block of North 42nd Street in East St. Louis. The office of St. Clair County State’s Attorney Jim Gomric declined to release the search warrant on Monday. Spokesman Chris Allen, an assistant state’s attorney, said the documents were closed by court order. Stewart and Grant both lived at the duplex. They are the first two charged of three arrested on Friday. Grant, 45, has a criminal record in St. Clair County that includes drug possession in Belleville in 2003 and 2005, being a felon in possession of a gun in 1996, obstructing justice in 1996 and resisting or obstructing a peace officer in Washington Park in 1995. One of the crimes involved Grant selling cocaine to an undercover agent near a school in Belleville in 2003. He pleaded guilty and was sentenced to four years in prison. Grant was arraigned on first-degree murder charges on Monday before Judge John O’Gara in St. Clair County, and was being held in the St. Clair County Jail in lieu of $5 million bail. The St. Clair County state’s attorney announced charges against him on Saturday alleging Grant shot Hopkins “with the intent to kill or do great bodily harm.” Stewart was charged on Monday with armed violence, obstructing justice and possession with the intent to distribute cannabis. Hopkins was married, had three young children and had been a trooper for 10 years. He was the first Illinois State Police trooper shot and killed in 30 years and the first Illinois State Police SWAT member to be fatally shot on duty.

Just imagine for a second if Hopkins, the white state trooper, had shot and killed Grant (the black career criminal) during the execution of this search warrant in nearly all-black East St. Louis. This black career criminal would have become a hero in death, with Hopkins getting investigated for any past public displays of racism showing both implicit bias and systemic racism on his part. This is the scenario every white cop in America faces each morning they wake up, knowing an altercation with the wrong black suspect could be the end of their career (or their life). As it is, this story is only news in the metro St. Louis/souther Illinois area.

Rest in peace, State Trooper Hopkins.

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  1. gutta percha [AKA "gp"] says:

    ” As it is, this story is only news in the metro St. Louis/southern Illinois area.” No, we are well aware of the story in northern Illinois. Won’t make any difference. It’s not like white people are going to riot in rage over it.

    Here in sh!thole Rockford IL, we just forced our cops to submit to some kind of hokey “healing” ceremony, over a thug that they shot here exactly 10 years ago. The thugs continue to shoot at all of us, every day of the week. Our city government continues to assure us that “all residents are valued equally.” Thug == cop == surgeon; we’re all exactly alike.

    My condolences to the officers’ family and friends and fellow LE. God Bless LE!

    • Replies: @JR1967
  2. There has to come a point where society recognizes that it is more trouble and dangerous to everyone involved that multicultural societies are always failures. Just think how a capitalist living in the Soviet Union in the 1980s felt about communism. You obviously see it’s flaws right in front of your face and see an obvious solution to a legalized form of political slavery. That’s how political dissidents see multicultural America. Separation is natural, healthy and a good thing. American cities have become war zones due to blacks and browns. Sometimes divorce is healthy,

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  3. Happens every day.

    Slow white genocide.

  4. Slight riff on JFK’s quote:

    Those who make law and order impossible will make street justice inevitable.

  5. Duke84 says:

    A beautiful white family destroyed by a worthless black criminal.

  6. eah says:

    Just imagine for a second if Hopkins, the white state trooper, had shot and killed Grant (the black career criminal) during the execution of this search warrant in nearly all-black East St. Louis.

    A question you have to ask nowadays.

    Three more children killed within 48 hours in St. Louis

  7. RIP Trooper Hopkins. It looks like you have a beautiful family. I trained with a lot of SWAT teams and the ISP has one of the best in the country.

    “De-policing” in America is a real thing. It’s not some far-right myth or police union exaggeration. It’s effected every American police officer’s job in some negative way in the last seven years. Police departments in blue states and cities have become especially disfunctional and ineffective…and it’s only getting worse. Once you let Dude Inc. and the Leftists call the shots and change the rules of law enforcement it becomes an upside-down world where the inmates run the asylum. Street coppers have adapted the best they can and simply choose not to police the Dindus if they can help it. It’s basically self-preservation in the form of a work slow-down. In Chicago we call it “staying fetal” but you can be sure your local law enforcement has their own unofficial term. I choose to protect the few white families and friends remaining in this city but in 2 years I will retire and am looking at riding out a desk assignment until I can get out of this asylum and move to somewhere in the Free Zone.

    On the bright side, none of this is anything new to the fine people who read this site…nor should you really care. I know we are all prepared (or well on the way) in case SHTF. Ultimately, your safety and the safety of your family is your responsibility. Thank you for the recommendations by the way. I added a Mossberg 930 shotgun to my firearm collection (what a great shottie for the money!) and I think I am well prepared in the self-defense category for whatever comes our way in the next 20 years. Now if I can just make it 2 years without getting shot, run over or sued by one of Obama’s sons or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s true Americans…

  8. 95Theses says:

    Though it oughtn’t be the case that anytime you use your firearm in self-defense against a “person of color” the fact remains that you will be scrutinized as to your motives, and if there is any hint of racism in your past you can expect that to be exploited.

    It hardly matters that the man or woman who lay nearby (following a self-defense shooting) has a long criminal record or multiple encounters with the police. All that is going to matter that you are white and they are black (or brown).

    This is why I cannot stress enough that anyone who does carry gets themselves some form of Concealed Carry insurance. Because if or when the day comes you find it necessary to defend your life or that of your loved ones, your world is going to be turned upside-down. And it will never again be the same. Just don’t allow it to bankrupt you.

    Personally, I have myself insured by United States Concealed Carry Association (USCCA), although there are several others. I’m not here to promote one over another. They all have something going for them. In my opinion, USCCA is the best fit for me. But whatever you do – if you don’t already have self-defense insurance – get some.

    • Agree: Blue Juice
    • Replies: @95Theses
  9. gutta percha [AKA "gp"] says:
    @Blue Juice

    “I think I am well prepared in the self-defense category for whatever comes our way in the next 20 years.”

    I’m well armed and trained, but I don’t think any of us are really “prepared” for the horrible things to come. The new normal of trillion dollar annual deficits guarantees an apocalypse soon. The insane ruling class, plus our tragically mis-educated and ignorant populace, plus the overwhelming deceit now dominating our media and daily discourse, sums up to Old-Testament-level doom. We’ll be swept away by a furious God.

    I now have no friends left because the lies and hatred have set us all thirsting for each others’ blood. My firearms bring me no solace. Unless you can live without sleep, vigilant 24/7/365, the mobs will simply burn you and your armory to ashes. When SHTF, the first person I shoot will probably be myself.

    • Agree: CENTURION
  10. Meh. None of you will fight, so you deserve what you get.

    • Replies: @By-tor
  11. m. says:

    second attempt: Legions of judges, lawyers, & politicians refuse to enforce existing laws to protect Americans – afraid of appearing to be racist? Why should d-sucker legislators be allowed to pass more? Oh wait, it’s for “public” safety?


    This black academic got sick of racist America, saved up $30k and moved to Ghana. He says there’s no racism and everything is “hunky dory”. Yeah, “hunky dory”, I didn’t know what was an old African word!


    BBC News‎ – Aug 19, 2019
    “I can see the racist connotation. I’m not sure if I’d say racist, or stereotype but it’s in that bracket.”.

    Breaking news! They are attempting to stop knife violence in England by putting stories of knife violence on boxes of chicken to teach the perils of knife violence. By the way, that’s racist! 😉

  14. @Blue Juice

    I have a few friends in law enforcement and fire department/EMT down here in S. Florida and they basically echo exactly what you wrote. They are counting down to their retirement in the next few years, like kids counting down to summer vaction. Their gripes are as you described, worried about getting sued/fired/having their careers ruined, or being shot, stabbed, run over by some dindu or dreamer. They all agree that the pandering and coddling has done nothing but make things worse when they try to enforce the law. They tell me about the drop in quality officers being hired, due to diversity quotas, and the lowering of standards & test qualifications.

    They give the same advice about being armed, know how to use your weapon and to call them after calling the cops if I ever end up having to shoot someone.

    • Replies: @95Theses
    , @anarchyst
  15. Anonymous[477] • Disclaimer says:
    @NC Realist

    I love the end of that story. The black carjacking victim says without a hint of irony,

    “For it to be children, I just wanted to snatch him out of the car and whip him like I was his mama,” she said.

    “It’s just a terrible thing that the mindset of our youth has gone to violence and violent crimes.”

    She bemoans the violence of black kids, yet in the same breath admits her first instinct was to get violent herself.

    • Replies: @NC Realist
  16. JR1967 says:
    @gutta percha

    “All residents are valued equally”

    Not so much for white people as a whole across the U.S. starting in 1964 through today.

  17. JR1967 says:
    @NC Realist

    BLM is just another terrorist organization and when someone supports BLM they support terrorism.

    Sad to say, there are white people who support BLM.

  18. If anyone wants to get a laugh, head on over to and check out the comments under, “be honest, are you a little bit racist?”
    This will illustrate what we are up against and why I don’t care when a white lib gets their reward for not being a racist.

  19. J1234 says:

    Even if Chicago didn’t exist, East St. Louis would be a good reason to never become a state trooper in Illinois. I’ll never forget the time my dad was driving my sister and me to Georgia…and inadvertently took an exit ramp down into East St. Louis, pretty much like in the movie Vacation. I remember looking across the “homes” from the elevated highway and thinking they looked more like shacks than houses. That was back in the early 1970’s, and it was probably just as bad back then as it is now. A whole lot of black people who didn’t seem to care much about anything.

  20. HT says:

    This is the type of lawless non-white, uncivilized country we are becoming. The new black morality sees black criminals and thugs as preferable to white cops. Obama’s anti-cop dog whistles were all blacks needed to go on a rampage.

  21. @North Star

    At the very least, we shouldn’t be sending good white officers into hellholes like East St.Louis. The whole point of diversifying the police forces of this once-great nation was so that minorities could be policed by people who “look like them.”

    So why was this fine officer sent on a death mission? Who was his superior who did this? Why couldn’t a black officer have gone instead? And don’t hoods like this one always complain that they don’t want law enforcement at all?

    They shouldn’t have this thing–civilization–that they clearly don’t want. Wall off the ghettos, let them sort things out in their own fashion. They don’t want the rule of “white man’s law”? Fine, they shouldn’t be appropriating our advances anyway.

    • Agree: 95Theses
  22. @Anonymous

    I didn’t think about the irony of this….it really is heavy in alot of ways. And then i giggled at the thought of seeing those boots and it’s story donated to her local black history museum.

  23. Conventional law and opder, policing, protecting and serving are white ideas. Expecting blacks to endure them is foolish. Foolish also is sending good officers (of any skin tone) on the fools errand of policing in places like East St. Louis, Baltimore, Detroit… any black dominated area. Let the black people police themselves. If you find it to not be pretty, then don’t watch.

    I am most sorry for the black people who are not of that peculiar African-American culture. Until they disavow and entirely withdraw all support for the miscreant majority, they will be lumped in with the worst of the lot. And tribal reality tells us that disavowal will never happen.

    I wonder if 2nd Amendment support is strong in the black parts of this country. It should be. Pretty soon the cops are going to be gone entirely, and then the black sheep and goats are going to have to work things out. The goats have guns.


    Fifth Illegal Immigrant Accused of Rape Arrested In Maryland County In Less Than A Month

    Do you need to read more than this?

  25. By-tor says:
    @Lord Inquisitor

    It depends upon what takes place. I don’t think militias will be forming up unless the nation’s truckers stop delivering food and gasoline to the large and medium-sized cities. As long as the water is running clean and the lights stay on, perhaps you are more correct than not. But, between the coasts, there is growing reciprocal white hatred for the US establishment class, its millions of useless Affirmative Action employees, and its decades of societal deconstructionism and the resulting dysfunction.

  26. @Blue Juice

    Thank You, for your service, and stay safe for the rest of your time.

  27. 95Theses says:

    Here is a coverage comparison chart in PDF for anyone interested. It is current as of June of 2017. Also, the plan listed by the USCCA is their ELITE level, offering the most coverage. Less expensive plans are available, which may likewise be the case with the other carriers featured in the chart.

  28. 95Theses says:
    @Blue Juice

    I keep hearing about this particular Mossberg shotgun. Have you had the opportunity yet to go to the range with it? And do mind telling how much cash you laid out for the 930?

  29. 95Theses says:
    @Sick 'n Tired

    And, of course, to remember to win the race to call 911.

    Ayoob [Massad]: Exactly. Remember, once the bad guy has run away, you still need to win the race to the telephone and become the victim/complainant. Who ever calls in first gets to be the victim/complainant by default. Who ever calls in second or doesn’t call in, is seen as the suspect.

    eJournal [Armed Citizen’s Defense Network]: Anymore, it is not like you have to GO to find a phone. Now somebody may have called even while the incident was underway. How does that color police response?

    Ayoob: The first one to call still “wins”.

    This, incidentally, is another reason why I recommend getting a DashCam. If your provocateur has initiated/escalated a violent encounter, their lies can possibly be undone by the video.

    • Replies: @95Theses
  30. 95Theses says:

    Still more expert advice regarding winning the race:

    Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory
    2009, February/March | Marty Hayes

    You have been trained to know exactly what to do after a shooting. Perhaps you have even just read this article and the information is fresh in your mind. Instead of freezing up and wondering what to do next, you know you MUST win the race to the phone. You dial 911 on your cell phone and tell the dispatcher that you were just attacked and that there is one suspect down. You give a brief description of yourself, you state that you are an armed citizen, and ask them to send police and medical aid.

    — Marty Hayes, JD. and president of Armed Citizen’s Defense Network. (Page 42)

  31. anarchyst says:
    @Sick 'n Tired

    “Enforce the law”…yeah right…

    When a man is choked to death for selling “loose cigarettes”, that is “enforcing the law”.

    When a man is ordered to crawl with his hands behind his back (impossible to do) and is murdered by “law enforcement” for not responding quickly enough, that is “enforcing the law”.

    True “law enforcement” is been eviscerated by those of the “thin blue line” who have the ability to “get away with murder”.

    American police departments are receiving training in israel on how to deal with their unruly dissident populations.

    Yes, in the USA, “we are all Palestinians, now”…

    • Replies: @Jim in Jersey
    , @95Theses
  32. This is the scenario every white cop in America faces each morning they wake up, knowing an altercation with the wrong black suspect could be the end of their career (or their life).

    …or they could find themselves sacrificed on the political alter and receive a prison sentence.

    Montgomery County Ala DA sacrifices police officer to appease black politicians:

    ‘Murder trial date, venue set for Montgomery police officer’

  33. @anarchyst

    American police departments are receiving training in israel on how to deal with their unruly dissident populations.

    That’s because we keep importing their ‘unruly dissident populations’…

    I harken back to the American Indian wars. Playing fair with stone aged throwbacks is a sure way to lose.

    Not condoning true police brutality but…

  34. gutta percha [AKA "gp"] says:

    “When a man is choked to death for selling “loose cigarettes”, that is “enforcing the law”.”

    1) Garner was not choked to death.
    2) Police officers arrived to the scene because they were called there, not because they were looking for some random guy to “choke.” Any one of those officers would tell you they had better things to do on their shift, than deal with that recidivist dirtbag.
    3) Garner, a career criminal, refused to cooperate with police. He left them NO choice but to subdue him by force. He was a “victim” of the widespread mistaken notion among blacks that they can refuse to cooperate with police.
    4) If you think laws against selling loosies, or interfering with retail business operations, are wrong or inhumane, by all means work to change them.
    5) The ONLY people who give a rats-patoot about the fate of Garner are those who cite it to make political points. I’m going to go way out on a limb here: the world is NO worse off without that thug, and nobody _genuinely_ mourns the guy. I surely don’t.
    6) If people like you keep demonizing police for having the dedication to do the WORST job in the world, pretty soon there won’t be any police left. Then you will have achieved the “anarchy” you seek, and you will NOT like it.

    “Yes, in the USA, “we are all Palestinians, now”…:

    No I am NOT oppressed in the USA, because I take the wacky radical course of obeying our laws. It really does make one’s life easier, more pleasant, and more productive.

    • Replies: @AR in Illinois
  35. 95Theses says:

    Sorry, but there is just no comparison between Daniel Shaver and Eric Garner. They’re not even close to being close.

    An intoxicated Shaver was doing the best he could to cooperate in a sadistic and lethal game of Simon Says. Even the host of the Think Like A Cop YouTube channel harshly criticized the ridiculous and confusing instructions Shaver was ordered to follow under threat of death.

    Garner on the other hand, was – as gp has already pointed out – resisting the police with all his will.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  36. anarchyst says:

    You are correct about Garner. However, selling loose cigarettes is not a crime.
    If it is against the “law” to sell loose cigarettes, Garner was “toast” because of the law. Please keep in mind that police officers quite often use “resisting arrest” charges as a “foil” to justify an arrest. Quite often a police officer will purposely “cuff” an individual harshly causing the individual to “pull away” instinctively and then add a charge of “resisting arrest” to the original charge. Stepping on a suspect’s instep will also cause an involuntary movement that will be translated to “resisting arrest”.
    Police are not your friends. It is wise to cooperate with them to the fullest. Even then, there is no guarantee that an innocent person will remain alive. “I feahed fo mah life” is a powerful tool that police use to justify a “murder”…

  37. @anarchyst

    selling loose cigarettes is not a crime.

    You are dead wrong.  It is a crime in New York, designed to make it unattractively costly for kids to get started on nicotine.

    If it is against the “law” to sell loose cigarettes, Garner was “toast” because of the law.

    It is, and anyone sympathizing with Garner is an idiot.  Like you.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  38. gutta percha [AKA "gp"] says:

    “Police are not your friends.”

    Where I live, I feel 100X safer with a cop around. When I think of people who are NOT my friends, I think of Garner, and I think of you, anarchyst. You want a world without cops? You may get your wish.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  39. gutta percha [AKA "gp"] says:

    “selling loose cigarettes is not a crime.”

    That’s an interesting claim, since IN FACT he was charged (posthumously) for resisting arrest and selling untaxed cigarettes. Look it up!

    If he had just moved on when asked, he might not even have been arrested.

    In my city, the people who shoot at us EVERY DAY are defiant law-breaking thugs like Garner, NOT cops, you fool.

  40. gutta percha [AKA "gp"] says:

    Look, you could easily find ten convincing cases to support your proposition that “police sometimes engage in outrageous, lawless, lethal conduct.” But why can’t you admit that the Garner case is NOT one of those? You picked a BAD example; why don’t you own it?

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  41. By-tor says:

    Bing or Google can help you check city codes. It took me about 2 minutes. Selling loose cigarettes in NYC is a crime. The third highest ranking chief under the commissioner in the hierarchy made it a priority, because merchants on the block where Garner fought police had complained about untaxed sales and marijuana peddling. Garner, being a rather large man, resisted a simple arrest. He brought the fight on himself.

    “At around the same time, on March 27, a caller to the city’s 311 hotline complained about the issue, saying a group of men had been selling untaxed cigarettes, and sometimes marijuana, on Bay St. every day for the past three years, a second source said.

    The caller identified one of the sellers as “a man named Eric.”

    The next day, Garner was arrested for selling untaxed cigarettes, one of three pending cases before his death.”

  42. anarchyst says:
    @gutta percha

    I agree that Garner was not a “nice man”. I was unaware that selling “loose cigarettes” was a crime, but so be it.
    However, killing a human being over “loose cigarettes” is morally untenable.

  43. anarchyst says:
    @gutta percha

    In many cases we would be better off with fewer cops and more civilian “concealed weapons carriers”.

    YOU are the “first responder” in any situation. The cops are only there to respond and assess blame after the fact.

    The problem with much policing in the united States is that israeli military tactics have been introduced into American police departments.

    Commonly used “command and control tactics” have no place in American policing. We are not the “enemy” although in many police departments , we are considered to be no better than Palestinians in Gaza.

    Witness Daniel Shaver, the unfortunate man who was murdered by police officer Daniel Brailsford for his unability to crawl with his hands behind his back.
    Brailsford was never charged with murder, and in fact was able to get a police-paid “pension” out of the deal.

    Brailsford was looking to kill someone, his intent being proven by the fact that he had the words “you’re f#cked” engraved on the dust cover of his AR-15. Any civilian who had such a phrase on a weapon used in (true) self-defense would be a ripe target for prosecution, regardless of the situation.

    Police officers are insulated from the consequences (and true justice) of their actions by compliant grand juries and prosecutors who decline to exact “equal justice under law”.

    The question needs to be asked: Where are all the “good cops”? What are they doing to weed out the “bad apples” from their departments? The answer is obvious.

    • Replies: @gutta percha
  44. anarchyst says:
    @Mr. Rational

    Your name-calling exposes you as a small-minded individual who is too sheltered to see the “big picture”.
    Your excuse that “loose cigarettes” should be a crime because children might get a hold of them is disingenuous, to say the least.
    There are many “bad laws” out there…
    Expecting cops to enforce them is a part of the problem…

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  45. anarchyst says:

    Here is a guest article that deserves the light of day:

    No One Cares If You Go Home Safe At The End Of Your Shift
    Jan 02, 201812:50AM
    Category: Politics
    Posted by: Michael Z. Williamson

    Here at the house, I have a couple of decades plus of military experience. I have tools to dig in or out of natural disasters. I have extinguishers and hoses. I have a field trauma kit and bandages. I have weapons both melee and firearm. I know how to use them. I know how to trench, support and revet. I understand the fire triangle and appropriate approaches. I understand breathing, bleeding and shock. I know how to detain, restrain and control. I have done all of these at least occasionally, professionally. I’ve stood on top of a collapsing levee in a flood. I’ve fought a structure fire from inside so we could get everyone out before the fire department showed up, which only took two minutes, but people can die that fast. I’ve had structures collapse while I was working on them. I’ve been in an aircraft that had a “mechanical” on approach and had to be repaired in-flight before landing. I’ve helped control a brush fire. I’ve hauled disabled vehicles out of ditches in sub-zero weather.

    My ex wife has over a decade of service and some of the same training.

    We have trained our young adult children.

    My wife is a rancher who knows her way around a shotgun, livestock, sutures and tools, hurricanes and floods, and works in investigations professionally.

    Our current house guest is another veteran.

    This means if anything happens at the house, and last year we had a lightning strike, a tornado and a flood within 10 days’ we’re pretty well prepared.

    Now, we’re probably better off than 95% of the households out there. The level of disaster that necessitates backup varies.

    If we find it necessary to call 911, it means the party is in progress and it’s bad.

    You will probably not be going home safe at the end of your shift.

    And you know what? If it gets to that point, I really don’t give a shit. I don’t give a shit if you get smoked. I don’t give a shit if you fall under a tree. I don’t give a shit if you get shot at.

    Because at that point, I’ve done everything I can with that same circumstance, and run out of resources.

    If my concern was “you going home safe,” then I’d just fucking hunker down and die. Because I wouldn’t want that poor responder to endanger himself.

    Except, that’s what I pay taxes for, and that’s what you signed up for. Just like I signed up to walk into a potential nuke war in Germany and hold off the Soviets, and did walk into the Middle East and prepare to take fire while keeping expensive equipment functioning so our shooters could keep shooting.

    There’s not a single set of orders I got that said my primary job was to “Come home safe.” They said it was to “support the mission” or “complete the objective.” Coming home safe was the ideal outcome, but entirely secondary to “supporting” or “completing.” Nor, once that started, did I get a choice to quit. Once in, all in.

    When that 80 year old lady smells smoke or hears a noise outside her first floor bedroom in the ghetto, she doesn’t care if you go home safe, either. She’s afraid she or the kids next door won’t wake up in the morning.

    If I call, I expect your ass to show up, sober, trained, professional. I expect you to wade in with me or in place of me, and drag a child out of a hole, or out from a burning room, or actually stand up and block bullets from hitting said child, because by the time you get there, I’ll have already done all that. And there will be field dressings, chainsawed trees, buckets and empty brass scattered about.

    I don’t want to hear some drunk and confused guy squirming on the ground playing “Simon Says” terrified you so much you had to blow him away. I don’t want to hear that some random guy 35 yards away who you had no actual information on , may have reached toward his waist band. Or that “the tree might fall any moment” or that “the smoke makes it hard to see.”

    Near as I can tell, I don’t hear the smokejumpers, or the firefighters, or the disaster rescue people say such things.

    But it’s all I ever hear from the cops. If you and your five girlfriends in body armor, with rifles, are that terrified of actually risking your life for the theoretically dangerous job you volunteered for and can quit any time, then please do quit.

    You can get a job doing pest control and go home safe every night.

    Until a bunch of fucking pussies with big tattoos, small dicks, body armor and guns blow you away for minding your own business.

    Because what you’re telling me with that statement is, your only concern is cashing a check. That’s fine. But if that’s your concern, don’t pretend you’re serving the public. If you wanted to help people at risk of life, you would be a firefighter, running into buildings, dragging people out, getting scorched regularly.

    If you’re cool with writing tickets, then there’s jobs where you can do just that.

    If you want to tangle with bad guys and blow them away, fair enough. But understand: That means they get to shoot first to prove their intent, just as happens with the military these days. Our ROE these days are usually “only if fired upon and no civilians are at risk.”

    If your plan is “shoot first, shoot later, shoot some more, then if anyone is still alive try to ask questions,” and bleat, “But I was afeard fer mah lahf!” you’re absolutely no better than the thugs you claim to oppose. All you are is another combatant in a turf war I don’t care about.

    Since I know your primary concern is “being safe,” then I’ll do you the favor of not calling. Cash your welfare check, and try not to shoot me at a “courtesy” sobriety checkpoint for “twitching my eye “in a way that suggested range estimation.

    If you’re one of the vanishingly few cops who isn’t like that, then what the hell are you doing about it? If there’s going to be a lawsuit costing the city millions, isn’t it better that it be a labor suit from the union over the clown you fired, than a wrongful death suit over the poor bastard the clown shot? Both are expensive, but one has a dead victim you enabled. So how much do you actually care about that life?

    How is the training so bad that it’s not clear who is the scene commander who gives the orders?

    How is it that trigger happy bozos who, out of costume, look no different from the gangbangers you claim to oppose, get sent up front to fulfill their wish of hosing someone down because “I was afraid for my life!”?

    Why does the rot exist in your department?

    If you can’t do anything about it, why are you still in that department?

    At some point, collective guilt is a thing.

    You’ve probably not been a good cop for a long time.

    And I still don’t care if you go home safe. I care that everyone you purport to “serve and protect” goes home safe.

    • Replies: @gutta percha
    , @By-tor
  46. gutta percha [AKA "gp"] says:

    “In many cases we would be better off with fewer cops and more civilian “concealed weapons carriers”.”

    I AM a concealed carrier! We STILL need cops! Do you want concealed carriers to serve warrants, patrol 24/7, arrest criminals, and do all other LE work?

    “Where are all the “good cops”?”

    Look at the article at the top of this post! THERE is a photo of a “good cop” with his good family. He’s dead now, because he dedicated himself to the worst job in the world, to serve a nation of ingrates.

    You’re on a crusade for Perfect Policing, and you are going to get a world with No Policing. I am in NO danger from LE. I don’t know how you live your life, but my conjecture is that YOU are in no danger from LE either.

  47. @gutta percha

    AWESOME response to that idiot!!! Thank you!

  48. @Blue Juice

    I would think that guys like you are also part of the ‘great replacement’ that has so effected our nation.

    When I was a younger man, I took the test for police officer. There was a height requirement. There was a physical test that was actually ‘physical’ the reasons for those those things and others like them was to weed out people who shouldn’t be police officers. Height eliminated most women and, let’s face it, men of short stature. We’ve all chuckled when a ‘midget’ policeman pulled us over. There’s an image that was maintained by the height requirement. That’s gone now.

    The physical test had to be modified because once the height requirement was altered, they found the girls (and I mean the men too) couldn’t drag the 200 pound dummy 20 yards or whatever the test was.

    It’s not like the job suddenly changed. It’s just now we had to be ‘socially conscience’ by allowing people in who couldn’t do the job.

    I often thank God that I let the list run out and never became a cop. Not sure if I’d have been a good one but I’m sure I wouldn’t have liked watching the fall of the police in a national level.

    Now, there’s gang bangers who are also cops. There’s women and dwarves who need a stepladder to see into an SUV. There’s tiny Asians who shoot people in projects because they got frightened.

    And for their who are reading this and say ‘who cares? Diversity is swell’ there was a case in Pennsylvania a little while ago with a military reenactor who went rogue and started a cop killing wave.

    He ambushed an officer in the parking lot of his precinct. As the officer lay dying, a tiny woman cop tried to drag him to safety. Guess what?

    There was a reason for the physical test after all.

    So, he died.

    We’ve played out this little social experiment in every corner of public and private life. Blacks and whites are equal. Me and women are equal. Criminals are people too. Serial killers have families. If one man can do something well, then any other man can also do it well.

    It’s all bullshit.

    Equality meant ‘in the eyes of the law’ and nothing else. It meant we should all be held to the same standard in the eyes of the court, something that was lacking as we shed ourselves of British rule. It didn’t mean that if I can pick up 200 pounds then so can you. How moronic do you have to be to believe otherwise?

    Yet we continue to allow it until we no longer have a voice or a place to stand. We’ve essentially replaced ourselves with a smaller, less capable version of ourselves. We’ve lowered our standards and made our kids just as dumb as the black kids and believe them when they tell us ‘that is equality’.

    We wonder why our country is a mess but at every turn we are met with microcosms of our country and do nothing to change even the smallest piece.

    What is the answer? I’m not sure. It’s certainly not continuing on as we have been. Maybe stepping into politics? Perhaps it’s gone on long enough that people would accept and even welcome some ‘realism’.

    It’s easier to hope for a benevolent dictator who will take it all away and make it better but that’s asking a lot and it’s a huge crap game.

    Benevolent is nice but the ‘dictator’ part usually meant they don’t have an off switch or self control.

    Sorry for the long winded rant. Since I’m limited to three responses per thread, I gotta lot of pent up opinion!

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @AnalogMan
  49. @anarchyst

    Your excuse that “loose cigarettes” should be a crime

    I stated a fact.  I expressed no opinion about its merit.  You are either too stupid to understand the difference, or you do understand it but are lying about what I said to try to score rhetorical points.  Neither says anything favorable about you.

    There are many “bad laws” out there

    Now you’re the one taking (your own) opinion as fact.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  50. gutta percha [AKA "gp"] says:

    On the one hand, I am so grateful to Unz for maintaining a forum where even the most outrageous POVs can be debated. There is no other place like it, and many of the commenters are very smart indeed. I’ve actually been compelled to examine the evidence for some of the outre topics presented here, like Pizzagate, 9-11 truthism, moon-landing skepticism, etc, topics that I would not otherwise have attended, and I’m glad to have had the opportunity to do that.

    On the other hand, my strength and composure are surely tested by some of the things contended in the comments, and I sometimes have to question whether folks are arguing in good faith, or whether I am simply being “trolled,” i.e., deliberately provoked by nonsense for the sole purpose of angering me.

    Sometimes I have to wonder whether consensual government, democracy, and rule of law can EVER succeed in a world where anarchists and trolls seek nothing more than to burn everything down for the fun of it. I acknowledge the fallen nature of man, but still I always had some hope that we could achieve a successful, even happy, society thru good-faith debate amongst intelligent, informed people.

    This era seems plagued by an unprecedented amount of deceit, ignorance and malice. So many people, on ALL sides, are now contending in bad faith that I wish I could withdraw from these discussions completely, and resist the powerful urge to indulge my hope for the triumph of reasonable discourse. God please give me the strength to stop coming here in pursuit of that apparently false hope.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  51. anarchyst says:
    @gutta percha

    Looks like I struck a nerve…


    You sound like a cop who doesn’t like your “dirty laundry” exposed in public.

    My point is, all it takes is ONE BAD COP and a complacent police department hierarchy and corrupt court system to make ALL cops look bad. Those who have been wronged by police see only the uniform and not the person wearing it.

    I wish it weren’t so, but that is the sad state of affairs these days.

    Yes, I want to see EVERY cop go home safe after his shift, but I also want the same for those innocent citizens who who (are forced to) interact with cops.

    Incidents such as the Daniel Shaver murder should NEVER be tolerated. Sad to say, such situations are becoming the “norm” rather than the exception.

    Not only murderer Philip Brailsford, but EVERY cop that was present at Shaver’s murder as well as the entire command structure of the police department and prosecutor’s office should have been held responsible. The “good” cop who stands around while these abuses are taking place and does nothing about it is just as culpable.

    Rehiring and giving Brailsford a pension adds insult to injury.

    “Letting things slide” when it comes to police misconduct shreds the whole Constitutional concept of “equal justice under law” and fosters the very troublesome attitude that many people have of “law enforcement”.


  52. By-tor says:

    Selling loose cigarettes is a tax issue and nothing else. NY law states that cigarettes are to be sold in packs of twenty, because that is method by which the tax stamps are sold to the distributors. That’s true of all states.

    Garner was a large man who violently resisted a simple arrest for a tax violation and turned it into a fist fight. He chose to disobey several police officers who were called there by the legitimate merchants on the block. Read the story and the NYC code for yourself. Garner was acting out within the upper extremities of street criminal dumb.

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
  53. anarchyst says:
    @Mr. Rational

    Typical copthink.
    It is no secret that police departments do not want “thinkers” but recruit from the “lowest common denominator” of humans. If, by chance they hire someone with compassion and common sense, it is a fluke…

    Quite often, those with common sense and compassion don’t last as they cannot put up with the corruption and “gang” mentality.

    Just stating facts, unlike your name-calling.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  54. @anarchyst

    Typical copthink.

    Typical troll.  You cannot defend your assertion so you try to deflect and distract.

    New York DOES outlaw the sale of single cigarettes.  Eric Garner had been caught committing such sales and was suspected of committing the same act again where he had done it before.  He refused to submit to search by officers called to the scene.  By your own declaration, he was “toast”.  Cops did not write the law Garner violated; that happened in Albany, not NYC and not by the NYPD.

    So shut your ignorant bigoted mouth, and fingers as proxy for same.  You are too stupid to have an opinion in this matter.

  55. AnalogMan says:
    @Jim in Jersey

    I’m limited to three responses per thread

    That’s now four responses per thread, and it’s per hour.

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