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Every day we wake up.

We kiss our loved ones goodbye and go to work.

We accomplish goals and finish projects, all to return home and reunite with our loved ones.

Kerry Charley was a 52-year-old white man living in “vibrant” part of St. Louis. He had a 32-year-old white girlfriend.

He was a mechanic.

He finished working on black woman’s BMW and when it was ready to be picked up, the latter individual and her son argued over the bill due.

Isaiah Gholson would pull a gun and shoot Charley five times.

He would then shoot Charley’s girlfriend twice in the back. [Angry over car-repair bill, teen accused of killing St. Louis mechanic with mom’s help, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, July 11, 2019]:

ST. LOUIS — The BMW was fixed and ready to go, but the teenager and his mom who owned the car argued with the mechanic when they came to pick it up on June 9.

They tried to leave with the car, but mechanic Kerry Charley wouldn’t let them take it without paying the bill.

The fight, outside the mechanic’s home on Prairie Avenue, turned deadly.

Court documents filed Tuesday in St. Louis Circuit Court describe the moments that led up to the attack one month ago. They say Isaiah Gholson, 17, pulled a gun and shot Charley several times in the torso, killing him. Charley was 52.

Gholson’s mother, meanwhile, was pushing and hitting Charley’s girlfriend. As the girlfriend ran off, the teenager shot the 32-year-old girlfriend twice in the back, police say.

The woman survived, but was critically injured. Police say she looked at a photo lineup in the hospital and identified Gholson as the shooter and Gholson’s mother, Ranada Anthony, as the woman who hit her.

Neither the teen nor his mother reported the crime to police. In fact, police say, Gholson and Anthony deny being at Charley’s home, in the 3600 block of Prairie Avenue. But police say Charley kept records of the cars he repaired at his home, and the BMW was registered to Anthony.

Gholson is charged with first-degree murder, first-degree assault, two counts of armed criminal action and failure to report a shooting.

Anthony, 39, is charged with third-degree assault, failure to report a shooting and hindering prosecution.

The home on Prairie is near Beaumont High School. A park ranger at Fairground Park called police to the scene after he heard gunshots near Prairie and Palm avenues, just before 4 p.m. June 9. Police went to Prairie and found both victims.

Gholson lives in the 3800 block of Enright Avenue. He is being held without bail.

Anthony, 39, lives in the 2600 block of Chippewa Avenue. Her bail initially was set at $25,000, cash only; but after a detention hearing Wednesday, Judge Michael Noble ordered that Anthony be held in jail without bond until her trial.

A ‘generous person’

One of Charley’s six sisters, who identified herself only as Cindy, said Charley was one of nine children who grew up in Brighton in the Metro East.

“He was a very, very generous person,” she said. “He was always willing to help someone in need when it came to their vehicles. He loved working on cars, it was like a passion for him.”

Charley would repair cars at a fraction of what a typical repair shop would charge, his sister said. He would allow customers to make installments so they could have a reliable vehicle.

Charley would work on cars in the street, in the yard, and “he was getting a good name for himself. His goal was to open his own three-car garage repair shop this year.”

Charley was the father of three adult children. He was shot five times in the chest, his sister said. As Charley lay dying in the street, a neighbor held his hand.

“We as a family were comforted to know he didn’t die alone,” Charley’s sister said.

She said her brother was “tough on the outside but very gentle on the inside.”

Isaiah’s mother, who refused the pay the bill for the work Charley did on her BMW, helped her son kill a white man.

Every day we wake up.

We kiss our loved ones goodbye and go to work.

We accomplish goals and finish projects, all to return home and reunite with our loved ones.

Whatever this website is to you who visit and read the writings of PK, please do this: take the time tonight or this week to hold those close to you a little tighter.

Whatever trivial problems you have with them possibly straining your relationship, let them go.

Forgive and forget.

Because life is too short to let another moment go by being mad with those you love or care about.

Looking at Kerry Charley’s life on his Facebook page, you see a man who loved life and cared deeply about those who were able to be a part of his time on the earth.

He didn’t wake up on June 9th knowing the day would be his last.

It was only his last day on earth because a black mother and her black son refused to pay for the work he performed for them, and then the 17-year-old black son shot him five times and his girlfriend twice.

Rest in peace, Kerry.

 

 
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  1. His mistake was having any dealings with blacks. They can chimp out and maim or murder someone over the stupidest things imaginable with no thought as to the consequences.

    As is, all the mechanics I’ve ever dealt with have always given an estimate of the cost of the job to be completed. If any unforseen issues come up, they’ve always called and asked what I wanted to do. They never did any unauthorized repairs and there were never any unexpected expenses. This same routine played out even when I (one time) used a “shade tree” mechanic who had no shop and did repairs at his home.

    I suspect that the negroes arguing, being belligerant and chimping out was planned all along as a way of trying to get out of paying the bill. Very similar to how they’ll go into a restaurant, eat 90% of the food they order and then try to argue about how the “food weren’t no good” and then try to chimp out and get the meal “fo’ free.”

    I’ll give you 100 to 1 odds that if the girlfriend survives, she’ll be able to tell how they chimped out and began screaming that the mechanic was racist.

    Both of the sub-human creatures who murdered this man should be executed.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    "His mistake was having any dealings with blacks. "

    You forget: whites are not allowed to freely associate. Blacks have the force of the US government behind them in their never ending effort to have access to white prosperity, productivity, and wealth. Had the victim attempted to exercise his right to free association, he would have had to endure the full force of the US government and its brigades of POC goons.
  2. This type of attitude is why we left Atlanta.

    Blacks just don’t care.
    You can’t reason with them, you can’t argue with them, you can’t even have a simple disagreement without it becoming a slight that they take as a personal attack and over-react with extreme violence.

    There is an endless stream of this and it keeps getting worse. Those that pay attention know it started to gain momentum in 2009 and continues to this day.

    Unless you are forced to work with blacks,
    Don’t use their shops or services,
    Don’t let them in your home, don’t take their money for work, just say no.
    Go to a different cashier at the business, or leave.
    Don’t eat at black run restaurants, don’t eat in black majority areas.
    Don’t stay out after 10pm, unless sober and carrying a pistol, NEVER in majority black areas.
    NEVER get drunk in public.

    • Agree: unit472
    • Replies: @anonymous
    Its easy to avoid black-owned businesses because there's so few of them. This guy that was killed was probably on the liberal side and had a soft spot for negroes. All of the above points are true and should be followed as much as possible.
    , @SMK
    In jails and prison, whites are not only "forced to work with them." They're forced, literally forced with no escape but suicide, to live with blacks, low-IQ, white-hating, mostly violent blacks, 24 hours a day for weeks or months or years or decades, perhaps forced to share a cell or cage with one or even two blacks, and to be reviled, harassed, threatened, and often assaulted, raped, gang-raped, and even murdered occasionally. Talk about hell! Forced racial integration in jails and prisons is cruel and unusual punishment -for whites- in the sense of not only being cruel but also totally unnecessary.
    , @KenH

    Don’t let them in your home, don’t take their money for work, just say no.
     
    Yep. I bought a new stove from a major appliance chain about two years ago and the installers call you on the day they can install the unit. One day I got the call and a voice on the other end said "We gots yo oven....iz u ready for us to come over and install it?" There was no mistake what color the guy on the other end was.

    I was shocked because anything that requires a little skill is done by whites or hispanics and most of my installers in the past have been white. I told the guy no I wasn't ready and needed to reschedule. I will not let blacks into my house and associate with them as little as possible.

    A couple days later an hispanic guy called and asked if I was ready for the installation and I said yes. Both installers were hispanic but they just quickly removed the old oven and installed the new oven and left.
  3. Why did this typical All American hard working tax paying family loving White man get murdered ? Because this is what the typical lowlife scum of the earth negro from africa does. They get pleasure out of carrying on obamas legacy.

  4. How the St. Louis Post Dispatch can “report” that Gholson lives in the 3800 block Enright Avenue is a mystery to me because there are no residential dwellings in the 3800 block of Enright Avenue. I know there’s no residential dwellings on it because I have to drive that block to get to the VA hospital on the next block of Enright.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    Do a google search on that address and you will find there is something there that looks like residential.
  5. Just visited Mr. Charley’s FB page. There, he posted pics of himself being a loving son and also of his girlfriend, who he said was the love of his life. He appears to be your average civilized White guy. Kerry may have had a great deal of knowledge about cars and how to repair them, but, evidently he had practically none regarding negroes. Ideally, he should have told the woman he was simply too busy to work on her car. But, being the typical White person, he tried to be a good neighbor. Having agreed to do business with them, when they came to pick up the vehicle, he should have had on a windbreaker with a pistol of choice concealed in a pocket, loaded, safety off, with his finger on the trigger. Everyone on this website knows this is the only way to be when having to be around negroes. Sad but true. If more White people did this, there would be much fewer heartbreaking stories on this website. Which, would be a very desirable thing.

    • Agree: Augustus
  6. Gholson’s mother, Ranada Anthony, as the woman who hit her.

    Maybe her mom named her that way because she was born in a motel room.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    And her sister LaQuinta
  7. Wheww, this one hits close to home. I’ve got a mechanic friend who also works on German cars. He doesn’t always have problems with black people and the bill, but if it’s gonna be someone, that’s usually who it is.

    They like to “style and profile”, he says, so they buy BMWs and Mercedes for cheap with 120,000 miles on them. These cars are likely to have a lot of things ready to go on them, and the parts for them are 3 to 5 times more costly than the parts for American cars. Things are damn complicated and packed in under the hood, so, if you’re going to get to one thing, often you ought to change out other stuff in the process to really keep the car up. These black people don’t want to do that, but they get mad when that other stuff breaks a month later.

    Luckily, my friend is a big guy, and he has lots of guns.

    • Replies: @The Bland Enchilada
    Can confirm. I worked as a Volvo Master Tech for years, out of sheer love of their durability and engineering (prior to being bought and ruined by FoMoCo). Unfortunately, because they were so durable, the older, classic models were popular with the brothers. A repurposed, cast iron, tractor engine in the 240s, and nearly-bulletproof, aluminum, 5 cylinder (in the 850/S&V70), and 6 cylinder (in the 960/S&V90), meant that even obsolete farm equipment could drive a European (white) man's car. Broke my heart. Don't get me wrong. Volvo, for years, enjoyed a brand loyalty to which I completely subscribed. My clients were doctors, lawyers, teachers, veterinarians. And one Launch Range Safety Officer. In other words, smart people.
    I had occasion to work at a BMW dealership and I can assure you that, despite their developing a camless, 4-stroke, gasoline engine that revs to 22,000 RPM, Bavarian Motor Works has succumbed to demographic marketing. The average BMW driver is trash with whom you would not want to associate.
    And don't even get me started on Mercedes-Benz.
    , @Augustus
    The cars from Europe often have extremely expensive parts because they don't have Most Favored Nation trade status, like the Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, etc. It's the only reason keeping me from a red Ferrari. Well okay, that and $235,000. I wonder what a Harley costs in Europe.
  8. Pay close attention to the Epstein affair. Is it just another “tin-foil” conspiracy theory? Do powerful groups compile filthy dossiers on our corrupt elites to blackmail them? If (((they))) have the balls to blackmail Jeff Bezos, who else do they have dirt on?

    Do we hate these (((folks))) because we have some kind of psychotic neuroses or do we hate these (((folks))) because they are a race of assholes. Look what they do to powerful people like Taylor Swift and then ask yourself what they do to weakest and most vulnerable.

  9. It is indeed a shame that 99% of the negro race make the other 1% look bad

    • Agree: kikz, HammerJack
    • LOL: Gunga Din
  10. If the law denies you the basic human right of self defense, then ignore the law and arm yourself against the thugs who are already armed.

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
    At my new job it is against the rules to carry a firearm, even if you have a conceal permit because it's DOT policy. I and many of my colleagues still carry or keep a gun in the truck regardless, because we are often working by ourselves in bad areas. My view on the matter is "I can't find a new job if I'm dead"
    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Amen. I talked to a trucker who carried (he was American - he leaves his gun at home when coming to Canada). He said "you can always get a new job but you can't get a new life".

    In fact the trucking industry is desperate for drivers. Smart move when delivering in negro infested areas.
  11. @Boy the way Glenn Miller played

    Gholson’s mother, Ranada Anthony, as the woman who hit her.
     
    Maybe her mom named her that way because she was born in a motel room.

    And her sister LaQuinta

  12. “He was a very, very generous person,” she said. “He was always willing to help someone in need when it came to their vehicles. He loved working on cars, it was like a passion for him.”
    /suicidal altruism.
    WOULD YOU WORK FOR A 17 YEAR OLD W A BMW?? IN THAT CITY.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Whites, especially Boomers, are much too nice.

    I'm nice to other white people. I am not very nice to aliens.
  13. I find it highly disingenuous of the news article to highlight the race of both parties. That in itself is promoting racism. Then to read some of these replies, validates that. Criminals are not criminals because of skin color. There are just as many whites committing crimes and killing others as blacks. To say otherwise is ignorant.

    I know many blacks who would condemn this action. Good decent people who go through life being judged by their skin instead of the content of their character. Those who replied above saying disparaging and stereotyping comments – you are narrow minded bigots and racists who truly need to just be quiet. Your perception of blacks is outdated and ignorant, and proves one thing- there are still white folks out there that are just plain old stupid.

    Get a life, get an education, learn about the people who GOD CREATED just like you. Only difference is skin color. They are more like you then you can imagine!

    • Replies: @Non PC Infidel
    Oh boy! You've stepped into it up to your eyeballs with that post. I'll leave it to others to rip you a new a-hole. You're about to get schooled, fool.
    , @D-FENS
    “There are just as many whites committing crimes and killing others as blacks. To say otherwise is ignorant.”

    When you account for percentages in the population, you will find that negroes are far more violent than any other group.

    You really are “unbelievable”.

    , @kikz
    disingenuous? why, because the perps were black?
    , @Gunga Din
    And you need to read the annual FBI Crime Statistics.
    , @Oil 'n Water
    I was going to prepare a rather long refutation of what you’ve asserted, but why bother. People like yourself wear blinders and refuse to seek facts on your own initiative that would refute or support your beliefs. You go along with what you’ve been told and you seek nothing further.
    Screw it. If you’re too lazy or brain-washed to find this easily-obtainable information on your own, then I wish you the best.
    But don’t come here with your virtuous condemnations unless you are willing to back them up with FACTS.
    , @WSG
    My God...you sure are an ignoramus. I have a life, an education, my own business, and 22 years living in states full of these shit-demons. They deserve all the hate they receive...and more. I hope that your pets consume you, and I am there with a popcorn bag in hand. I promise to smile the whole time.
    , @bruce county
    Hmmm. Science seems to tell a different story. I recommend you check your crime stats. And if you do not live near these feral savages I suggest you set up camp in a black ghetto. You know.. with your nice car nice, shoes, nice phone, nice big tv. Try and last a week.!!! Then get back to us on that. Until then I strongly suggest you stay here for more breaking news of your filthy pets killing white people. Your ignorance will get you dead. They are not like us. Evolution has failed this species.
    , @Former liberal
    Hello. What planet do you reside on? Is it Planet Claire" where people have no heads", as the B52's used to sing about? Just about all of us who have followed this site for a while are race realists because of bitter, hard experience. And please leave God out of it. Most of us here don't hate blacks, we just want them to leave us alone, stop blaming whites for everything and continously demand that we throw more money at them. Live in a black run city like Baltimore, Birmingham, Atlanta, Detroit, etc for six months. I dare you. Or just live in a black neighborhood for a while. Dont make me laugh by saying that whites commit just as much crime and violence. Check out the CDC and FBI's websites, plus American Renaissance, if you dare. Here's a fun fact: the FBI doesn't keep statistics on white on black rapes, as opposed to black on white rapes, because the numbers are practically nonexistent. Years ago, I thought like you, but living around and working with blacks cured me of my delusions. I just hope you don't learn the hard way that blacks are unfortunately, dangerous, untrustworthy and more violence prone than any other group. I'm originally from the North, but living in the South has definitely made me a race realist.
    , @Negro Antidote
    To call you delusional and willfully ignorant is the nicest thing i can say. Research anything offered by Colin Flaherty, then go to whatever Negro website that catalogs hundreds if not thousands of News clips and vids about White on Black violence and murder....Guess what? I'll save you the time, there is no such website because whites don't come remotely close to Black crime and dysfunction. All God's creatures don't live according to God's instructions. Kumbaya is in the same category as the Tooth Fairy.
    , @Thorfinnsson
    Racism is objectively correct.

    How does it feel to be wrong?
    , @Jim in Jersey
    Yup, you got us.

    Changing my ways in 5,4,3,2,1
    , @Augustus
    ODL!!! Why must I be subjected to this Paint Job Theory over and over adinfinitim!?! We are most definitely NOT all the same behind a different colored outer shell. Your philosophy of moral equivalence, as taught by all your leftist professors who've never worked in the real world, doesn't hold up with race any more than with religion or government. Government's directing markets from the top down have the same results and freedoms as allowed by free market capitalism? Think an Obama directed economy ignoring private property works better than a voluntary exchange free market? Got any idea what grew America's standard of living better and faster, in disease fighting and manufacturing of consumer products than ever before in the history of the world for every class of citizen in the US? Ever encouraged to think about it while receiving your leftist education?

    Religions all the same too? Christianity treat women and homos the same as Islam? Christianity have built in teaching of terrorism against outsiders? Again, not the same. NO moral equivalence.

    Blacks like all others? Same character and values for all under a different skin tone? Ever heard of pattern recognition? Every variety of life on earth uses it as a defense mechanism, but you call me a racist bigot if I use it to protect my loved ones. Okay then, I am a bigot, but my family is safer while blacks have 13% of the population committing 52% of the violent crime if I know that difference in moral character and teach it to them. Which would be worse for the safety of my family? My "racist bigotry," or your blind refusal to recognize pattern recognition?

    Go ahead, call me racist. The term has been so overused by holier-than-thou leftists to silence dissent, and reality, as to have been rendered meaningless. Say hello from me to your Uncle Joe Stalin. Tell him I'm still out here and still armed! AND I have the moose!

    , @Eternally Antifascist
    I will be polite. Your last paragraph is just full of sh_t!!!!

    None of THEM are at all like me, sans skin color!!! I am civilized and a trained nuclear physicist; I raised my children to be responsible active citizens with career professions and a clear command of the English language, not Ebonics!!!

    Comparing me to THEM and claiming that we are the same would be analogous to comparing a sleek race horse to a burro!!! My brain is large, crenelated, sleek and fast; theirs is small, unformed, smooth and slow!

    Conclusion: Your are too full of the brown stuff to participate in logical discussions on this website!!
    , @Susan
    No, there are not as many whites committing crimes as blacks. Blacks are FAR more criminal than whites and blacks kill FAR more whites than whites kill anyone!
  14. People are still surprised when a rattlesnake bites them. Its a snake thats what they do. This shouldn’t surprise anyone. Keep it locked and loaded ready to deploy as fast as possible. Especially when the orcs are near. Mine is ready at my side.

  15. They will kill you and each other over nothing. How far do you have to go to get away from these violent subhumans?

    • Replies: @By-tor
    Correct me if I am wrong, but Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, the Rep. of Georgia and Belarus would be missing the largely predatory welfare plantation black sub-population that plagues the West. The former USSR-administered region of Eastern Europe used to be a safe haven from US-UK-FRA western liberal societal rot, but US-dominated NATO and their membership in the CIA's EU have those countries' borders, history and culture under assault. All US enemies are missing large numbers of blacks. It is therefore best to remain an enemy of the US.
  16. @RoatanBill
    If the law denies you the basic human right of self defense, then ignore the law and arm yourself against the thugs who are already armed.

    At my new job it is against the rules to carry a firearm, even if you have a conceal permit because it’s DOT policy. I and many of my colleagues still carry or keep a gun in the truck regardless, because we are often working by ourselves in bad areas. My view on the matter is “I can’t find a new job if I’m dead”

  17. @Unbelievable
    I find it highly disingenuous of the news article to highlight the race of both parties. That in itself is promoting racism. Then to read some of these replies, validates that. Criminals are not criminals because of skin color. There are just as many whites committing crimes and killing others as blacks. To say otherwise is ignorant.

    I know many blacks who would condemn this action. Good decent people who go through life being judged by their skin instead of the content of their character. Those who replied above saying disparaging and stereotyping comments - you are narrow minded bigots and racists who truly need to just be quiet. Your perception of blacks is outdated and ignorant, and proves one thing- there are still white folks out there that are just plain old stupid.

    Get a life, get an education, learn about the people who GOD CREATED just like you. Only difference is skin color. They are more like you then you can imagine!

    Oh boy! You’ve stepped into it up to your eyeballs with that post. I’ll leave it to others to rip you a new a-hole. You’re about to get schooled, fool.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    Lol... I'm guessing there is some brain damage there some where..You can't school these people. They need to be a victim at the hands of their favorite pets before their ideals and beliefs change. And judging from the past stories PK has posted here, they will still blame the system and forgive the fucking orc.

    Life is hard....
    Its harder when you are stupid.
    John Wayne.
  18. Prairie Avenue

    In zip code 63107 — 90% black — using an internet maps site, in the “bird’s eye” view you see many empty lots — in the “street” view the houses are dilapidated — looks like a war was lost and the people there never rebuilt.

  19. @Unbelievable
    I find it highly disingenuous of the news article to highlight the race of both parties. That in itself is promoting racism. Then to read some of these replies, validates that. Criminals are not criminals because of skin color. There are just as many whites committing crimes and killing others as blacks. To say otherwise is ignorant.

    I know many blacks who would condemn this action. Good decent people who go through life being judged by their skin instead of the content of their character. Those who replied above saying disparaging and stereotyping comments - you are narrow minded bigots and racists who truly need to just be quiet. Your perception of blacks is outdated and ignorant, and proves one thing- there are still white folks out there that are just plain old stupid.

    Get a life, get an education, learn about the people who GOD CREATED just like you. Only difference is skin color. They are more like you then you can imagine!

    “There are just as many whites committing crimes and killing others as blacks. To say otherwise is ignorant.”

    When you account for percentages in the population, you will find that negroes are far more violent than any other group.

    You really are “unbelievable”.

  20. eah says:

    If the law denies you the basic human right of self defense,…

    Gun laws in MO are about as permissive as you will find anywhere — you don’t need a permit to buy a gun or for concealed carry — open carry is allowed.

    So that was not the problem here.

  21. Unbelievable, you are unbelievable.
    A few weeks ago, the media made a big deal about a white contractor with a Confederate flag attached to his truck arriving at a negro home. They sent him away and people were fawning over them on how they handled the situation.
    My gut feeling is this guy didn’t want to deal with them and he handled it beautifully.
    ShermanFan, glad you got out of that negro Mecca, I have relatives there and am amazed at how desensitized they are.

  22. @Unbelievable
    I find it highly disingenuous of the news article to highlight the race of both parties. That in itself is promoting racism. Then to read some of these replies, validates that. Criminals are not criminals because of skin color. There are just as many whites committing crimes and killing others as blacks. To say otherwise is ignorant.

    I know many blacks who would condemn this action. Good decent people who go through life being judged by their skin instead of the content of their character. Those who replied above saying disparaging and stereotyping comments - you are narrow minded bigots and racists who truly need to just be quiet. Your perception of blacks is outdated and ignorant, and proves one thing- there are still white folks out there that are just plain old stupid.

    Get a life, get an education, learn about the people who GOD CREATED just like you. Only difference is skin color. They are more like you then you can imagine!

    disingenuous? why, because the perps were black?

  23. @Unbelievable
    I find it highly disingenuous of the news article to highlight the race of both parties. That in itself is promoting racism. Then to read some of these replies, validates that. Criminals are not criminals because of skin color. There are just as many whites committing crimes and killing others as blacks. To say otherwise is ignorant.

    I know many blacks who would condemn this action. Good decent people who go through life being judged by their skin instead of the content of their character. Those who replied above saying disparaging and stereotyping comments - you are narrow minded bigots and racists who truly need to just be quiet. Your perception of blacks is outdated and ignorant, and proves one thing- there are still white folks out there that are just plain old stupid.

    Get a life, get an education, learn about the people who GOD CREATED just like you. Only difference is skin color. They are more like you then you can imagine!

    And you need to read the annual FBI Crime Statistics.

  24. @Unbelievable
    I find it highly disingenuous of the news article to highlight the race of both parties. That in itself is promoting racism. Then to read some of these replies, validates that. Criminals are not criminals because of skin color. There are just as many whites committing crimes and killing others as blacks. To say otherwise is ignorant.

    I know many blacks who would condemn this action. Good decent people who go through life being judged by their skin instead of the content of their character. Those who replied above saying disparaging and stereotyping comments - you are narrow minded bigots and racists who truly need to just be quiet. Your perception of blacks is outdated and ignorant, and proves one thing- there are still white folks out there that are just plain old stupid.

    Get a life, get an education, learn about the people who GOD CREATED just like you. Only difference is skin color. They are more like you then you can imagine!

    I was going to prepare a rather long refutation of what you’ve asserted, but why bother. People like yourself wear blinders and refuse to seek facts on your own initiative that would refute or support your beliefs. You go along with what you’ve been told and you seek nothing further.
    Screw it. If you’re too lazy or brain-washed to find this easily-obtainable information on your own, then I wish you the best.
    But don’t come here with your virtuous condemnations unless you are willing to back them up with FACTS.

  25. WSG says:
    @Unbelievable
    I find it highly disingenuous of the news article to highlight the race of both parties. That in itself is promoting racism. Then to read some of these replies, validates that. Criminals are not criminals because of skin color. There are just as many whites committing crimes and killing others as blacks. To say otherwise is ignorant.

    I know many blacks who would condemn this action. Good decent people who go through life being judged by their skin instead of the content of their character. Those who replied above saying disparaging and stereotyping comments - you are narrow minded bigots and racists who truly need to just be quiet. Your perception of blacks is outdated and ignorant, and proves one thing- there are still white folks out there that are just plain old stupid.

    Get a life, get an education, learn about the people who GOD CREATED just like you. Only difference is skin color. They are more like you then you can imagine!

    My God…you sure are an ignoramus. I have a life, an education, my own business, and 22 years living in states full of these shit-demons. They deserve all the hate they receive…and more. I hope that your pets consume you, and I am there with a popcorn bag in hand. I promise to smile the whole time.

  26. Anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:

    Can’t tell if “Unbelievable” is attempting “Julie”-esque satire or is just clueless from decades of brainwashing…

  27. @Unbelievable
    I find it highly disingenuous of the news article to highlight the race of both parties. That in itself is promoting racism. Then to read some of these replies, validates that. Criminals are not criminals because of skin color. There are just as many whites committing crimes and killing others as blacks. To say otherwise is ignorant.

    I know many blacks who would condemn this action. Good decent people who go through life being judged by their skin instead of the content of their character. Those who replied above saying disparaging and stereotyping comments - you are narrow minded bigots and racists who truly need to just be quiet. Your perception of blacks is outdated and ignorant, and proves one thing- there are still white folks out there that are just plain old stupid.

    Get a life, get an education, learn about the people who GOD CREATED just like you. Only difference is skin color. They are more like you then you can imagine!

    Hmmm. Science seems to tell a different story. I recommend you check your crime stats. And if you do not live near these feral savages I suggest you set up camp in a black ghetto. You know.. with your nice car nice, shoes, nice phone, nice big tv. Try and last a week.!!! Then get back to us on that. Until then I strongly suggest you stay here for more breaking news of your filthy pets killing white people. Your ignorance will get you dead. They are not like us. Evolution has failed this species.

  28. @Unbelievable
    I find it highly disingenuous of the news article to highlight the race of both parties. That in itself is promoting racism. Then to read some of these replies, validates that. Criminals are not criminals because of skin color. There are just as many whites committing crimes and killing others as blacks. To say otherwise is ignorant.

    I know many blacks who would condemn this action. Good decent people who go through life being judged by their skin instead of the content of their character. Those who replied above saying disparaging and stereotyping comments - you are narrow minded bigots and racists who truly need to just be quiet. Your perception of blacks is outdated and ignorant, and proves one thing- there are still white folks out there that are just plain old stupid.

    Get a life, get an education, learn about the people who GOD CREATED just like you. Only difference is skin color. They are more like you then you can imagine!

    Hello. What planet do you reside on? Is it Planet Claire” where people have no heads”, as the B52’s used to sing about? Just about all of us who have followed this site for a while are race realists because of bitter, hard experience. And please leave God out of it. Most of us here don’t hate blacks, we just want them to leave us alone, stop blaming whites for everything and continously demand that we throw more money at them. Live in a black run city like Baltimore, Birmingham, Atlanta, Detroit, etc for six months. I dare you. Or just live in a black neighborhood for a while. Dont make me laugh by saying that whites commit just as much crime and violence. Check out the CDC and FBI’s websites, plus American Renaissance, if you dare. Here’s a fun fact: the FBI doesn’t keep statistics on white on black rapes, as opposed to black on white rapes, because the numbers are practically nonexistent. Years ago, I thought like you, but living around and working with blacks cured me of my delusions. I just hope you don’t learn the hard way that blacks are unfortunately, dangerous, untrustworthy and more violence prone than any other group. I’m originally from the North, but living in the South has definitely made me a race realist.

  29. @Unbelievable
    I find it highly disingenuous of the news article to highlight the race of both parties. That in itself is promoting racism. Then to read some of these replies, validates that. Criminals are not criminals because of skin color. There are just as many whites committing crimes and killing others as blacks. To say otherwise is ignorant.

    I know many blacks who would condemn this action. Good decent people who go through life being judged by their skin instead of the content of their character. Those who replied above saying disparaging and stereotyping comments - you are narrow minded bigots and racists who truly need to just be quiet. Your perception of blacks is outdated and ignorant, and proves one thing- there are still white folks out there that are just plain old stupid.

    Get a life, get an education, learn about the people who GOD CREATED just like you. Only difference is skin color. They are more like you then you can imagine!

    To call you delusional and willfully ignorant is the nicest thing i can say. Research anything offered by Colin Flaherty, then go to whatever Negro website that catalogs hundreds if not thousands of News clips and vids about White on Black violence and murder….Guess what? I’ll save you the time, there is no such website because whites don’t come remotely close to Black crime and dysfunction. All God’s creatures don’t live according to God’s instructions. Kumbaya is in the same category as the Tooth Fairy.

  30. @Achmed E. Newman
    Wheww, this one hits close to home. I've got a mechanic friend who also works on German cars. He doesn't always have problems with black people and the bill, but if it's gonna be someone, that's usually who it is.

    They like to "style and profile", he says, so they buy BMWs and Mercedes for cheap with 120,000 miles on them. These cars are likely to have a lot of things ready to go on them, and the parts for them are 3 to 5 times more costly than the parts for American cars. Things are damn complicated and packed in under the hood, so, if you're going to get to one thing, often you ought to change out other stuff in the process to really keep the car up. These black people don't want to do that, but they get mad when that other stuff breaks a month later.

    Luckily, my friend is a big guy, and he has lots of guns.

    Can confirm. I worked as a Volvo Master Tech for years, out of sheer love of their durability and engineering (prior to being bought and ruined by FoMoCo). Unfortunately, because they were so durable, the older, classic models were popular with the brothers. A repurposed, cast iron, tractor engine in the 240s, and nearly-bulletproof, aluminum, 5 cylinder (in the 850/S&V70), and 6 cylinder (in the 960/S&V90), meant that even obsolete farm equipment could drive a European (white) man’s car. Broke my heart. Don’t get me wrong. Volvo, for years, enjoyed a brand loyalty to which I completely subscribed. My clients were doctors, lawyers, teachers, veterinarians. And one Launch Range Safety Officer. In other words, smart people.
    I had occasion to work at a BMW dealership and I can assure you that, despite their developing a camless, 4-stroke, gasoline engine that revs to 22,000 RPM, Bavarian Motor Works has succumbed to demographic marketing. The average BMW driver is trash with whom you would not want to associate.
    And don’t even get me started on Mercedes-Benz.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    I remember when Volvo bought out Champion Road Machinery in the 90's. A big loss for the men and women in Goderich, Ontario. They kept the operations there for a less than 20 years and moved south to PA.. It hurt a lot of families. There aren't too many Volvo cars in Goderich today or is there a dealership. The people of Goderich haven't forgot.
    , @Mr. Rational

    The average BMW driver is trash with whom you would not want to associate.
     
    Q:  What's the difference between a BMW and a porcupine?

    A:  The porcupine has the pricks on the outside.

    And remember, if you think your job is pointless, there's someone at the BMW plant installing the turn-signal switch.
  31. @Unbelievable
    I find it highly disingenuous of the news article to highlight the race of both parties. That in itself is promoting racism. Then to read some of these replies, validates that. Criminals are not criminals because of skin color. There are just as many whites committing crimes and killing others as blacks. To say otherwise is ignorant.

    I know many blacks who would condemn this action. Good decent people who go through life being judged by their skin instead of the content of their character. Those who replied above saying disparaging and stereotyping comments - you are narrow minded bigots and racists who truly need to just be quiet. Your perception of blacks is outdated and ignorant, and proves one thing- there are still white folks out there that are just plain old stupid.

    Get a life, get an education, learn about the people who GOD CREATED just like you. Only difference is skin color. They are more like you then you can imagine!

    Racism is objectively correct.

    How does it feel to be wrong?

  32. @HT
    They will kill you and each other over nothing. How far do you have to go to get away from these violent subhumans?

    Correct me if I am wrong, but Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, the Rep. of Georgia and Belarus would be missing the largely predatory welfare plantation black sub-population that plagues the West. The former USSR-administered region of Eastern Europe used to be a safe haven from US-UK-FRA western liberal societal rot, but US-dominated NATO and their membership in the CIA’s EU have those countries’ borders, history and culture under assault. All US enemies are missing large numbers of blacks. It is therefore best to remain an enemy of the US.

  33. @Non PC Infidel
    His mistake was having any dealings with blacks. They can chimp out and maim or murder someone over the stupidest things imaginable with no thought as to the consequences.

    As is, all the mechanics I've ever dealt with have always given an estimate of the cost of the job to be completed. If any unforseen issues come up, they've always called and asked what I wanted to do. They never did any unauthorized repairs and there were never any unexpected expenses. This same routine played out even when I (one time) used a "shade tree" mechanic who had no shop and did repairs at his home.

    I suspect that the negroes arguing, being belligerant and chimping out was planned all along as a way of trying to get out of paying the bill. Very similar to how they'll go into a restaurant, eat 90% of the food they order and then try to argue about how the "food weren't no good" and then try to chimp out and get the meal "fo' free."

    I'll give you 100 to 1 odds that if the girlfriend survives, she'll be able to tell how they chimped out and began screaming that the mechanic was racist.

    Both of the sub-human creatures who murdered this man should be executed.

    “His mistake was having any dealings with blacks. ”

    You forget: whites are not allowed to freely associate. Blacks have the force of the US government behind them in their never ending effort to have access to white prosperity, productivity, and wealth. Had the victim attempted to exercise his right to free association, he would have had to endure the full force of the US government and its brigades of POC goons.

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
    • Replies: @Non PC Infidel
    The answer to that is to say that you have too much work already lined up and no time to take on more customers. Or you're going out of town on vacation in a day or two and won't be available as you're too rushed trying to get what work you already have finished before then. The orcs will go elsewhere. You don't have to be stupid and flat out refuse them because they're negroes and thus give them a legal weapon to attack you with.

    Do I have to allow a negro service person into my house? No, I can say I canceled the appointment and actually do it. I "suddenly" changed my mind. Do I have to accept a negro waiter or waitress or kitchen staff? No, I suddenly decided to go elsewhere for a meal- which ensures spit free food and drinks. Do I have to use the checkout line with the negro clerk? No, I can use another checkout line or, if none are available, simply leave and go elsewhere. Ditto for going to a hospital or health clinic and being confronted by an AA hire doctor- I'm outta there. As a private citizen, I have an absolute right to associate with whomever I want and to avoid those I want nothing to do with and the government can't force me to do otherwise any more than they can force me to associate with a neighbor down the street against my will. Even if I were still working (I'm retired) the government couldn't force me to hang out with and be chummy with black employees. I can be simply disinterested- not rude, hateful, belligerant or in their face- just distant/uninvolved. No law against that.

    , @KenH

    You forget: whites are not allowed to freely associate. Blacks have the force of the US government behind them
     
    That's right and Bill Barr, attorney general of the white nationalist Trump administration probably would have sicced the anti-white radicals at the "civil rights" division on this hapless white mechanic.
  34. @Non PC Infidel
    Oh boy! You've stepped into it up to your eyeballs with that post. I'll leave it to others to rip you a new a-hole. You're about to get schooled, fool.

    Lol… I’m guessing there is some brain damage there some where..You can’t school these people. They need to be a victim at the hands of their favorite pets before their ideals and beliefs change. And judging from the past stories PK has posted here, they will still blame the system and forgive the fucking orc.

    Life is hard….
    Its harder when you are stupid.
    John Wayne.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational

    They need to be a victim at the hands of their favorite pets before their ideals and beliefs change.
     
    There was a poster here a few years back who recounted what happened to a pal of his who he was lazing with after having some tattoo work done.  A bunch of blacks with a skinny little White mudshark showed up and he came to the full alert position, Kimber in hand.  The pal explained that this newly-arrived bunch were his friends.  Our poster started gathering his things and when the pal asked what he was doing he explained something like "I don't hang with ghetto trash."

    He later found from the pal's mother that the hood rats had beaten and robbed his pal, sending him to the hospital.  What do you want to bet that virtue-signalling outweighed self-preservation and that he is still that much of a fool?
  35. @The Bland Enchilada
    Can confirm. I worked as a Volvo Master Tech for years, out of sheer love of their durability and engineering (prior to being bought and ruined by FoMoCo). Unfortunately, because they were so durable, the older, classic models were popular with the brothers. A repurposed, cast iron, tractor engine in the 240s, and nearly-bulletproof, aluminum, 5 cylinder (in the 850/S&V70), and 6 cylinder (in the 960/S&V90), meant that even obsolete farm equipment could drive a European (white) man's car. Broke my heart. Don't get me wrong. Volvo, for years, enjoyed a brand loyalty to which I completely subscribed. My clients were doctors, lawyers, teachers, veterinarians. And one Launch Range Safety Officer. In other words, smart people.
    I had occasion to work at a BMW dealership and I can assure you that, despite their developing a camless, 4-stroke, gasoline engine that revs to 22,000 RPM, Bavarian Motor Works has succumbed to demographic marketing. The average BMW driver is trash with whom you would not want to associate.
    And don't even get me started on Mercedes-Benz.

    I remember when Volvo bought out Champion Road Machinery in the 90’s. A big loss for the men and women in Goderich, Ontario. They kept the operations there for a less than 20 years and moved south to PA.. It hurt a lot of families. There aren’t too many Volvo cars in Goderich today or is there a dealership. The people of Goderich haven’t forgot.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    To be fair, Volvo is not know for its market share in rural Ontario! Goderich seems more like a Silverado, F-150 or RAM type of place.
  36. @The Bland Enchilada
    Can confirm. I worked as a Volvo Master Tech for years, out of sheer love of their durability and engineering (prior to being bought and ruined by FoMoCo). Unfortunately, because they were so durable, the older, classic models were popular with the brothers. A repurposed, cast iron, tractor engine in the 240s, and nearly-bulletproof, aluminum, 5 cylinder (in the 850/S&V70), and 6 cylinder (in the 960/S&V90), meant that even obsolete farm equipment could drive a European (white) man's car. Broke my heart. Don't get me wrong. Volvo, for years, enjoyed a brand loyalty to which I completely subscribed. My clients were doctors, lawyers, teachers, veterinarians. And one Launch Range Safety Officer. In other words, smart people.
    I had occasion to work at a BMW dealership and I can assure you that, despite their developing a camless, 4-stroke, gasoline engine that revs to 22,000 RPM, Bavarian Motor Works has succumbed to demographic marketing. The average BMW driver is trash with whom you would not want to associate.
    And don't even get me started on Mercedes-Benz.

    The average BMW driver is trash with whom you would not want to associate.

    Q:  What’s the difference between a BMW and a porcupine?

    A:  The porcupine has the pricks on the outside.

    And remember, if you think your job is pointless, there’s someone at the BMW plant installing the turn-signal switch.

  37. @bruce county
    Lol... I'm guessing there is some brain damage there some where..You can't school these people. They need to be a victim at the hands of their favorite pets before their ideals and beliefs change. And judging from the past stories PK has posted here, they will still blame the system and forgive the fucking orc.

    Life is hard....
    Its harder when you are stupid.
    John Wayne.

    They need to be a victim at the hands of their favorite pets before their ideals and beliefs change.

    There was a poster here a few years back who recounted what happened to a pal of his who he was lazing with after having some tattoo work done.  A bunch of blacks with a skinny little White mudshark showed up and he came to the full alert position, Kimber in hand.  The pal explained that this newly-arrived bunch were his friends.  Our poster started gathering his things and when the pal asked what he was doing he explained something like “I don’t hang with ghetto trash.”

    He later found from the pal’s mother that the hood rats had beaten and robbed his pal, sending him to the hospital.  What do you want to bet that virtue-signalling outweighed self-preservation and that he is still that much of a fool?

  38. @Achmed E. Newman
    Wheww, this one hits close to home. I've got a mechanic friend who also works on German cars. He doesn't always have problems with black people and the bill, but if it's gonna be someone, that's usually who it is.

    They like to "style and profile", he says, so they buy BMWs and Mercedes for cheap with 120,000 miles on them. These cars are likely to have a lot of things ready to go on them, and the parts for them are 3 to 5 times more costly than the parts for American cars. Things are damn complicated and packed in under the hood, so, if you're going to get to one thing, often you ought to change out other stuff in the process to really keep the car up. These black people don't want to do that, but they get mad when that other stuff breaks a month later.

    Luckily, my friend is a big guy, and he has lots of guns.

    The cars from Europe often have extremely expensive parts because they don’t have Most Favored Nation trade status, like the Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, etc. It’s the only reason keeping me from a red Ferrari. Well okay, that and $235,000. I wonder what a Harley costs in Europe.

  39. The fight…turned deadly

    Nice job, STL Post-Dispatch, of blaming the fight for the outcome of those who chose to start it and carry it through to its murderous conclusion.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    They have the persistent dishonest habit of using "fight" when they mean "attack". "Fight" implies both parties more or less agreed to combat.
  40. @RoatanBill
    If the law denies you the basic human right of self defense, then ignore the law and arm yourself against the thugs who are already armed.

    Amen. I talked to a trucker who carried (he was American – he leaves his gun at home when coming to Canada). He said “you can always get a new job but you can’t get a new life”.

    In fact the trucking industry is desperate for drivers. Smart move when delivering in negro infested areas.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    I went to Brooklyn Tech High School in New York decades ago; one of 3 public schools that required an entrance exam to get in. It was in Bedford Stuyvesant, a really terrible neighborhood. The day of the entrance exam I got mugged by two black guys with a zip gun (look it up). It was mid winter and they stole my watch, money and shoes.

    Over the next 4 years I got mugged a few more times, always by local black guys and got knifed twice and shot once. Good thing was it was always in winter when a heavy coat took most of the punishment, even the zip gun flesh wound. In my last year I carried a real 22 cal pistol. The next guy was going to eat lead.

    Graduated to enter Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute in the same lousy neighborhood. In my junior year 2 black guys surrounded me on an empty subway platform. One finally got the courage to demand my money after flashing a switchblade. I looked him straight in the eyes and told him to back off or I'll kill him as I still had the 22 in my coat pocket. He hesitated and they both went away.

    Moved to Texas. Carried a 9mm for decades and had a few close calls but never had to show it. Carrying is my right as a human being despite what the law says.
  41. @Loren
    “He was a very, very generous person,” she said. “He was always willing to help someone in need when it came to their vehicles. He loved working on cars, it was like a passion for him.”
    /suicidal altruism.
    WOULD YOU WORK FOR A 17 YEAR OLD W A BMW?? IN THAT CITY.

    Whites, especially Boomers, are much too nice.

    I’m nice to other white people. I am not very nice to aliens.

  42. @bruce county
    I remember when Volvo bought out Champion Road Machinery in the 90's. A big loss for the men and women in Goderich, Ontario. They kept the operations there for a less than 20 years and moved south to PA.. It hurt a lot of families. There aren't too many Volvo cars in Goderich today or is there a dealership. The people of Goderich haven't forgot.

    To be fair, Volvo is not know for its market share in rural Ontario! Goderich seems more like a Silverado, F-150 or RAM type of place.

  43. @Unbelievable
    I find it highly disingenuous of the news article to highlight the race of both parties. That in itself is promoting racism. Then to read some of these replies, validates that. Criminals are not criminals because of skin color. There are just as many whites committing crimes and killing others as blacks. To say otherwise is ignorant.

    I know many blacks who would condemn this action. Good decent people who go through life being judged by their skin instead of the content of their character. Those who replied above saying disparaging and stereotyping comments - you are narrow minded bigots and racists who truly need to just be quiet. Your perception of blacks is outdated and ignorant, and proves one thing- there are still white folks out there that are just plain old stupid.

    Get a life, get an education, learn about the people who GOD CREATED just like you. Only difference is skin color. They are more like you then you can imagine!

    Yup, you got us.

    Changing my ways in 5,4,3,2,1

  44. @Unbelievable
    I find it highly disingenuous of the news article to highlight the race of both parties. That in itself is promoting racism. Then to read some of these replies, validates that. Criminals are not criminals because of skin color. There are just as many whites committing crimes and killing others as blacks. To say otherwise is ignorant.

    I know many blacks who would condemn this action. Good decent people who go through life being judged by their skin instead of the content of their character. Those who replied above saying disparaging and stereotyping comments - you are narrow minded bigots and racists who truly need to just be quiet. Your perception of blacks is outdated and ignorant, and proves one thing- there are still white folks out there that are just plain old stupid.

    Get a life, get an education, learn about the people who GOD CREATED just like you. Only difference is skin color. They are more like you then you can imagine!

    ODL!!! Why must I be subjected to this Paint Job Theory over and over adinfinitim!?! We are most definitely NOT all the same behind a different colored outer shell. Your philosophy of moral equivalence, as taught by all your leftist professors who’ve never worked in the real world, doesn’t hold up with race any more than with religion or government. Government’s directing markets from the top down have the same results and freedoms as allowed by free market capitalism? Think an Obama directed economy ignoring private property works better than a voluntary exchange free market? Got any idea what grew America’s standard of living better and faster, in disease fighting and manufacturing of consumer products than ever before in the history of the world for every class of citizen in the US? Ever encouraged to think about it while receiving your leftist education?

    Religions all the same too? Christianity treat women and homos the same as Islam? Christianity have built in teaching of terrorism against outsiders? Again, not the same. NO moral equivalence.

    Blacks like all others? Same character and values for all under a different skin tone? Ever heard of pattern recognition? Every variety of life on earth uses it as a defense mechanism, but you call me a racist bigot if I use it to protect my loved ones. Okay then, I am a bigot, but my family is safer while blacks have 13% of the population committing 52% of the violent crime if I know that difference in moral character and teach it to them. Which would be worse for the safety of my family? My “racist bigotry,” or your blind refusal to recognize pattern recognition?

    Go ahead, call me racist. The term has been so overused by holier-than-thou leftists to silence dissent, and reality, as to have been rendered meaningless. Say hello from me to your Uncle Joe Stalin. Tell him I’m still out here and still armed! AND I have the moose!

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @eah
    Why must I be subjected to this Paint Job Theory over and over adinfinitim!?!

    Consider using the IGNORE COMMENTER feature under AGREE/DISAGREE/ETC -- you can still selectively see individual comments by the user if you're interested/curious.
    , @Jimr7
    To make things worse, The 13% committing half the violent crime is not the entire afro population, it's young males ...so minus the old folk,most women and kids under the age of maybe 12, It's more like 4-5% of the negroes causing the problems.....those are some crazy stats !!
  45. @Auntie Analogue
    How the St. Louis Post Dispatch can "report" that Gholson lives in the 3800 block Enright Avenue is a mystery to me because there are no residential dwellings in the 3800 block of Enright Avenue. I know there's no residential dwellings on it because I have to drive that block to get to the VA hospital on the next block of Enright.

    Do a google search on that address and you will find there is something there that looks like residential.

  46. My biggest takeaway from this story is this:

    The seventeen year old black boy carries his gun illegally EVERYDAY/EVERYWHERE. He didn’t slip it in his waistband to go get his car.

    He carries everyday. Just like you, right? Just like me? He doesn’t care about the law because the law would cause him to be killed by one of his running buddies for that show of weakness.

    So why are we afraid? The police? When was the last time you were ever patted for a weapon? As a white man who has absolutely no criminal record I can tell you my answer. Never.

  47. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Amen. I talked to a trucker who carried (he was American - he leaves his gun at home when coming to Canada). He said "you can always get a new job but you can't get a new life".

    In fact the trucking industry is desperate for drivers. Smart move when delivering in negro infested areas.

    I went to Brooklyn Tech High School in New York decades ago; one of 3 public schools that required an entrance exam to get in. It was in Bedford Stuyvesant, a really terrible neighborhood. The day of the entrance exam I got mugged by two black guys with a zip gun (look it up). It was mid winter and they stole my watch, money and shoes.

    Over the next 4 years I got mugged a few more times, always by local black guys and got knifed twice and shot once. Good thing was it was always in winter when a heavy coat took most of the punishment, even the zip gun flesh wound. In my last year I carried a real 22 cal pistol. The next guy was going to eat lead.

    Graduated to enter Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute in the same lousy neighborhood. In my junior year 2 black guys surrounded me on an empty subway platform. One finally got the courage to demand my money after flashing a switchblade. I looked him straight in the eyes and told him to back off or I’ll kill him as I still had the 22 in my coat pocket. He hesitated and they both went away.

    Moved to Texas. Carried a 9mm for decades and had a few close calls but never had to show it. Carrying is my right as a human being despite what the law says.

    • Replies: @Loren
    I know Polys neighborhood. Thats down town, brooklyn heights.
    A few blocks form the water. Not Bed sty.
    I spent many years in south brooklyn.
    , @Susan
    Too bad you didn't get to use it on a few of those worthless-excuses-for-human that attacked you. That's a horror story!
  48. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "His mistake was having any dealings with blacks. "

    You forget: whites are not allowed to freely associate. Blacks have the force of the US government behind them in their never ending effort to have access to white prosperity, productivity, and wealth. Had the victim attempted to exercise his right to free association, he would have had to endure the full force of the US government and its brigades of POC goons.

    The answer to that is to say that you have too much work already lined up and no time to take on more customers. Or you’re going out of town on vacation in a day or two and won’t be available as you’re too rushed trying to get what work you already have finished before then. The orcs will go elsewhere. You don’t have to be stupid and flat out refuse them because they’re negroes and thus give them a legal weapon to attack you with.

    Do I have to allow a negro service person into my house? No, I can say I canceled the appointment and actually do it. I “suddenly” changed my mind. Do I have to accept a negro waiter or waitress or kitchen staff? No, I suddenly decided to go elsewhere for a meal- which ensures spit free food and drinks. Do I have to use the checkout line with the negro clerk? No, I can use another checkout line or, if none are available, simply leave and go elsewhere. Ditto for going to a hospital or health clinic and being confronted by an AA hire doctor- I’m outta there. As a private citizen, I have an absolute right to associate with whomever I want and to avoid those I want nothing to do with and the government can’t force me to do otherwise any more than they can force me to associate with a neighbor down the street against my will. Even if I were still working (I’m retired) the government couldn’t force me to hang out with and be chummy with black employees. I can be simply disinterested- not rude, hateful, belligerant or in their face- just distant/uninvolved. No law against that.

  49. gp says:

    I see above many comments about carrying firearms. I’m a target shooter and concealed carrier.

    I came here to say that my pistol cannot keep me “safe,” and it’s a mistake to get into that mindset. Nor is it a tool of righteous justice and social improvement, as some c0mmenters imply. The pistol _might_ help keep me alive in a street situation where I face an imminent, actionable threat of death or grievous bodily harm, but it is no guarantee. If I survive such an incident, my attacker or his family will civilly sue me into ruin, even if I prevail in any criminal investigation of my conduct. Defensive gun use is not something to eagerly look forward to, no matter how satisfying it might be to daydream about blowing away menacing thugs.

    The thing that keeps me safest is situational awareness: staying away from stupid people doing stupid things in stupid places at stupid times. You all know the who, what, where, when. Awareness is far more powerful than arms when it comes to providing real personal safety outside the home.

    Of course, if you are attacked within your home, go ahead and open fire without reservation. Anybody who breaks into your home, knowing you are there, is surely willing to kill you.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite

    If I survive such an incident, my attacker or his family will civilly sue me into ruin, even if I prevail in any criminal investigation of my conduct
     
    I carry as well and your point here is not understood by enough people. If the incident takes place outside your home, even if you're cleared criminally, if you have more than a moderate level of wealth/income, there is a 100% chance you will be sued civilly. The yoof that attacked you will have been an honor student and aspiring rapper that was also trying to "make the NBA" and you will have deprived his mom and baby momma(s) of all that wealth he was going to have while he ain't did nuffin. The burden of proof will be much lower and the jury will likely include at least some blacks that will see you as a trigger-happy cracker that likes executing black babies.

    Situational awareness any time you're around them, and extracting yourself from the situation if at all possible, even if it means losing a car or other belongings is preferable to lethal force. Think of your weapon as less a means of killing someone and more of a way of making them back off while you leave.
    , @Jack Tiscione
    I agree with you totally gp
  50. gp says:

    In my urban hellhole, flashy black drivers buy Audis and Jaguars, not BMWs and Mercedes. I don’t know if the Escalades have lost their appeal yet. I haven’t seen spinner rims in forever, but they still dearly love their tinted windshields.

    Our pedestrian blacks prefer to walk in the middle of the street, rather than use the sidewalks. I haven’t dared ask them why they do that. Do they do that where you guys live too?

    • Replies: @Non PC Infidel
    Negroes walk in the middle of the road or, when crossing the road at a redlight that's turned green, will arrogantly walk as slowly as possible to inconvenience everyone. It's done to prove how special they are and how important. I once yelled at one, "Get out of the road, you stupid motherf*cker" and stepped on the gas. It leaped out of the way and began screaming and throwing a fit. I "disrespekdid" it.

    A friend of mine accidentally drove down a dead end street in a negro area and had to turn around to get out but that meant negroes having to move out of the way as they were all standing in the street. They then chased him down the street throwing rocks and bottles at his car. More "disrespek." Kangs and Kweens be walkin' here!

    Put simply, it's just a product of their arrogance, egotism, ignorance and belligerence.
    , @Known Fact
    Yes, because if they get hit and injured, they've won the legal-system lottery. And also as Non PC Infidel says, because of their sullen sense of resentment
  51. @Unbelievable
    I find it highly disingenuous of the news article to highlight the race of both parties. That in itself is promoting racism. Then to read some of these replies, validates that. Criminals are not criminals because of skin color. There are just as many whites committing crimes and killing others as blacks. To say otherwise is ignorant.

    I know many blacks who would condemn this action. Good decent people who go through life being judged by their skin instead of the content of their character. Those who replied above saying disparaging and stereotyping comments - you are narrow minded bigots and racists who truly need to just be quiet. Your perception of blacks is outdated and ignorant, and proves one thing- there are still white folks out there that are just plain old stupid.

    Get a life, get an education, learn about the people who GOD CREATED just like you. Only difference is skin color. They are more like you then you can imagine!

    I will be polite. Your last paragraph is just full of sh_t!!!!

    None of THEM are at all like me, sans skin color!!! I am civilized and a trained nuclear physicist; I raised my children to be responsible active citizens with career professions and a clear command of the English language, not Ebonics!!!

    Comparing me to THEM and claiming that we are the same would be analogous to comparing a sleek race horse to a burro!!! My brain is large, crenelated, sleek and fast; theirs is small, unformed, smooth and slow!

    Conclusion: Your are too full of the brown stuff to participate in logical discussions on this website!!

  52. Neither the teen nor his mother reported the crime to police.

    Was this a ghastly attempt at humor by the Post-Dispatch writer?

  53. @Augustus
    ODL!!! Why must I be subjected to this Paint Job Theory over and over adinfinitim!?! We are most definitely NOT all the same behind a different colored outer shell. Your philosophy of moral equivalence, as taught by all your leftist professors who've never worked in the real world, doesn't hold up with race any more than with religion or government. Government's directing markets from the top down have the same results and freedoms as allowed by free market capitalism? Think an Obama directed economy ignoring private property works better than a voluntary exchange free market? Got any idea what grew America's standard of living better and faster, in disease fighting and manufacturing of consumer products than ever before in the history of the world for every class of citizen in the US? Ever encouraged to think about it while receiving your leftist education?

    Religions all the same too? Christianity treat women and homos the same as Islam? Christianity have built in teaching of terrorism against outsiders? Again, not the same. NO moral equivalence.

    Blacks like all others? Same character and values for all under a different skin tone? Ever heard of pattern recognition? Every variety of life on earth uses it as a defense mechanism, but you call me a racist bigot if I use it to protect my loved ones. Okay then, I am a bigot, but my family is safer while blacks have 13% of the population committing 52% of the violent crime if I know that difference in moral character and teach it to them. Which would be worse for the safety of my family? My "racist bigotry," or your blind refusal to recognize pattern recognition?

    Go ahead, call me racist. The term has been so overused by holier-than-thou leftists to silence dissent, and reality, as to have been rendered meaningless. Say hello from me to your Uncle Joe Stalin. Tell him I'm still out here and still armed! AND I have the moose!

    Why must I be subjected to this Paint Job Theory over and over adinfinitim!?!

    Consider using the IGNORE COMMENTER feature under AGREE/DISAGREE/ETC — you can still selectively see individual comments by the user if you’re interested/curious.

  54. eah says:

    No idea how this guy ran his business or how this sad incident unfolded (or why he was living and/or working in a 90% black area; a cheap lease maybe) — but it is normal to provide an estimate which the customer signs — if starting the job you find the price will exceed the estimate by a significant amount you call and get approval before going ahead — it helps to be good at seeing what complications (extra work/parts) may arise so you can warn the customer beforehand and avoid a nasty surprise (but you should still call before doing an above estimate repair) — however with “some people” it may not matter how professionally you run your business.

  55. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @ShermanFan
    This type of attitude is why we left Atlanta.

    Blacks just don’t care.
    You can’t reason with them, you can’t argue with them, you can’t even have a simple disagreement without it becoming a slight that they take as a personal attack and over-react with extreme violence.

    There is an endless stream of this and it keeps getting worse. Those that pay attention know it started to gain momentum in 2009 and continues to this day.

    Unless you are forced to work with blacks,
    Don’t use their shops or services,
    Don’t let them in your home, don’t take their money for work, just say no.
    Go to a different cashier at the business, or leave.
    Don’t eat at black run restaurants, don’t eat in black majority areas.
    Don’t stay out after 10pm, unless sober and carrying a pistol, NEVER in majority black areas.
    NEVER get drunk in public.

    Its easy to avoid black-owned businesses because there’s so few of them. This guy that was killed was probably on the liberal side and had a soft spot for negroes. All of the above points are true and should be followed as much as possible.

  56. @RoatanBill
    I went to Brooklyn Tech High School in New York decades ago; one of 3 public schools that required an entrance exam to get in. It was in Bedford Stuyvesant, a really terrible neighborhood. The day of the entrance exam I got mugged by two black guys with a zip gun (look it up). It was mid winter and they stole my watch, money and shoes.

    Over the next 4 years I got mugged a few more times, always by local black guys and got knifed twice and shot once. Good thing was it was always in winter when a heavy coat took most of the punishment, even the zip gun flesh wound. In my last year I carried a real 22 cal pistol. The next guy was going to eat lead.

    Graduated to enter Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute in the same lousy neighborhood. In my junior year 2 black guys surrounded me on an empty subway platform. One finally got the courage to demand my money after flashing a switchblade. I looked him straight in the eyes and told him to back off or I'll kill him as I still had the 22 in my coat pocket. He hesitated and they both went away.

    Moved to Texas. Carried a 9mm for decades and had a few close calls but never had to show it. Carrying is my right as a human being despite what the law says.

    I know Polys neighborhood. Thats down town, brooklyn heights.
    A few blocks form the water. Not Bed sty.
    I spent many years in south brooklyn.

  57. The Christian cucks are at it again. 8 days of hope in MS is now on their way to help the poor little negroes to help repair flood damage.

    Makes me wonder if they’ll wipe their butt too!

    If you look at the news piece they have this huge warehouse full of brand new washers and dryers, generators, large scale dryers (I don’t know the exact term for it) and many other high end items.

    Where did they get this type of money to fund this? That area of MS is very poor. I mean really poor. Whites and blacks alike. I’m thinking a large you know how tribe is funding this. And of course the white man in the news story is a blue-eyed clueless white man who says he just love Jesus and wants others to feel his love.

    I don’t remember this type of group going to Joplin MO in 2011 when they had that horrendous tornado or any other town in OK who had massive casualties from an EF5 tornado. Oh NO, they only help negroes!

    I say let them rot in their muddy homes. Let them starve to death.

    • Agree: Non PC Infidel
  58. there are stereotypes for a reason

    • Replies: @Augustus
    "there are stereotypes for a reason."

    The reason is so some people can constantly live down to every last one of them.
  59. SMK says: • Website
    @ShermanFan
    This type of attitude is why we left Atlanta.

    Blacks just don’t care.
    You can’t reason with them, you can’t argue with them, you can’t even have a simple disagreement without it becoming a slight that they take as a personal attack and over-react with extreme violence.

    There is an endless stream of this and it keeps getting worse. Those that pay attention know it started to gain momentum in 2009 and continues to this day.

    Unless you are forced to work with blacks,
    Don’t use their shops or services,
    Don’t let them in your home, don’t take their money for work, just say no.
    Go to a different cashier at the business, or leave.
    Don’t eat at black run restaurants, don’t eat in black majority areas.
    Don’t stay out after 10pm, unless sober and carrying a pistol, NEVER in majority black areas.
    NEVER get drunk in public.

    In jails and prison, whites are not only “forced to work with them.” They’re forced, literally forced with no escape but suicide, to live with blacks, low-IQ, white-hating, mostly violent blacks, 24 hours a day for weeks or months or years or decades, perhaps forced to share a cell or cage with one or even two blacks, and to be reviled, harassed, threatened, and often assaulted, raped, gang-raped, and even murdered occasionally. Talk about hell! Forced racial integration in jails and prisons is cruel and unusual punishment -for whites- in the sense of not only being cruel but also totally unnecessary.

  60. Whenever I get a call from an obvious nog for an estimate, I simply delete the voice mail.

    If I can’t tell on the phone(I’ve been fooled before) I’ll just give them a sky high bid and never hear from them again.

    I don’t go in without at least an ASP baton.

    So far, so good.

    • Replies: @Not Woke--Not Broke
    Jim in Jersey Post#61----------Smart man. Ebonics and "African" names are sure fire warning signs. Always asking for an upfront cash deposit is another useful tool.Never fully complete the job without being paid. No,forget what i said.Just never show up. Avoid,avoid,AVOID!!!!! There is also a phone app that lets anyone plan routes to avoid unsafe areas,but if you only work local you already have "redlined" certain areas.
  61. @Olorin

    The fight...turned deadly
     
    Nice job, STL Post-Dispatch, of blaming the fight for the outcome of those who chose to start it and carry it through to its murderous conclusion.

    They have the persistent dishonest habit of using “fight” when they mean “attack”. “Fight” implies both parties more or less agreed to combat.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  62. @gp
    I see above many comments about carrying firearms. I'm a target shooter and concealed carrier.

    I came here to say that my pistol cannot keep me "safe," and it's a mistake to get into that mindset. Nor is it a tool of righteous justice and social improvement, as some c0mmenters imply. The pistol _might_ help keep me alive in a street situation where I face an imminent, actionable threat of death or grievous bodily harm, but it is no guarantee. If I survive such an incident, my attacker or his family will civilly sue me into ruin, even if I prevail in any criminal investigation of my conduct. Defensive gun use is not something to eagerly look forward to, no matter how satisfying it might be to daydream about blowing away menacing thugs.

    The thing that keeps me safest is situational awareness: staying away from stupid people doing stupid things in stupid places at stupid times. You all know the who, what, where, when. Awareness is far more powerful than arms when it comes to providing real personal safety outside the home.

    Of course, if you are attacked within your home, go ahead and open fire without reservation. Anybody who breaks into your home, knowing you are there, is surely willing to kill you.

    If I survive such an incident, my attacker or his family will civilly sue me into ruin, even if I prevail in any criminal investigation of my conduct

    I carry as well and your point here is not understood by enough people. If the incident takes place outside your home, even if you’re cleared criminally, if you have more than a moderate level of wealth/income, there is a 100% chance you will be sued civilly. The yoof that attacked you will have been an honor student and aspiring rapper that was also trying to “make the NBA” and you will have deprived his mom and baby momma(s) of all that wealth he was going to have while he ain’t did nuffin. The burden of proof will be much lower and the jury will likely include at least some blacks that will see you as a trigger-happy cracker that likes executing black babies.

    Situational awareness any time you’re around them, and extracting yourself from the situation if at all possible, even if it means losing a car or other belongings is preferable to lethal force. Think of your weapon as less a means of killing someone and more of a way of making them back off while you leave.

    • Agree: Non PC Infidel
    • Replies: @eah
    ...there is a 100% chance you will be sued civilly.

    This is probably an exaggeration -- it depends on the outcome of any criminal investigation and/or trial -- if no charges were filed or the shooter was not found criminally liable in a trial, then a civil suit is significantly less likely simply because a favorable outcome is significantly less likely -- these people won't have the money to pay a lawyer up front, and a lawyer won't take the case otherwise if the probability of success is low.

    Trayvon Martin's parents sued the homeowner's association where he was shot, not George Zimmerman, who'd just been acquitted in a criminal trial (the homeowner's association, or more likely their insurance carrier, decided to settle out of court, although it is not clear why since the evidence in the criminal trial showed the 'not guilty' verdict was appropriate -- just to avoid the expense of a trial probably).

    A famous exception is the OJ Simpson case, but then it was clear in the criminal trial that there was a ton of evidence against Simpson that the criminal jury just disregarded.

    But everyone should note your comment and the one by "gp" -- use of a firearm is a very serious matter and should only be done when you or someone else is facing imminent death or grave injury and there is no alternative.

  63. @gp
    In my urban hellhole, flashy black drivers buy Audis and Jaguars, not BMWs and Mercedes. I don't know if the Escalades have lost their appeal yet. I haven't seen spinner rims in forever, but they still dearly love their tinted windshields.

    Our pedestrian blacks prefer to walk in the middle of the street, rather than use the sidewalks. I haven't dared ask them why they do that. Do they do that where you guys live too?

    Negroes walk in the middle of the road or, when crossing the road at a redlight that’s turned green, will arrogantly walk as slowly as possible to inconvenience everyone. It’s done to prove how special they are and how important. I once yelled at one, “Get out of the road, you stupid motherf*cker” and stepped on the gas. It leaped out of the way and began screaming and throwing a fit. I “disrespekdid” it.

    A friend of mine accidentally drove down a dead end street in a negro area and had to turn around to get out but that meant negroes having to move out of the way as they were all standing in the street. They then chased him down the street throwing rocks and bottles at his car. More “disrespek.” Kangs and Kweens be walkin’ here!

    Put simply, it’s just a product of their arrogance, egotism, ignorance and belligerence.

    • Replies: @eah
    Put simply, it’s just a product of their arrogance, egotism, ignorance and belligerence.

    They are taught to hate Whites by being constantly told racist Whites are holding them back and causing their many problems -- it's all over the media man -- that scumbag Jussie Smollett did what he did because he knew everyone would immediately believe him -- everyone that mattered anyway, ie the media -- and they did: they spread his story uncritically and no doubt it ginned up more hatred of whitey -- that robbery in Palestine, TX, where a Black doused inflammable liquid on two white females in a store and set them on fire happened after the Smollett hoax -- was that guy motivated in part by this blame and hate whitey media campaign? -- they never ask this question.

    Look at the vitriol directed at that Covington Catholic kid.

    , @Feedsackroad

    ...to inconvenience everyone.
     
    The reason for their existence. They must take an oath.

    Do you [state your negro name],
    promise to hinder, hamper, obstruct, impede, inhibit, retard, balk, thwart, foil, baffle, curb, delay, arrest, interfere with, set back, slow down, hold back, hold up, forestall, stop, halt, restrict, restrain, constrain, block, check, curtail, frustrate, cramp, handicap, cripple, hamstring, shackle, fetter, encumber, stymie, and just be a general pain in the ass so long as you shall live, so help you God?
  64. @Non PC Infidel
    Negroes walk in the middle of the road or, when crossing the road at a redlight that's turned green, will arrogantly walk as slowly as possible to inconvenience everyone. It's done to prove how special they are and how important. I once yelled at one, "Get out of the road, you stupid motherf*cker" and stepped on the gas. It leaped out of the way and began screaming and throwing a fit. I "disrespekdid" it.

    A friend of mine accidentally drove down a dead end street in a negro area and had to turn around to get out but that meant negroes having to move out of the way as they were all standing in the street. They then chased him down the street throwing rocks and bottles at his car. More "disrespek." Kangs and Kweens be walkin' here!

    Put simply, it's just a product of their arrogance, egotism, ignorance and belligerence.

    Put simply, it’s just a product of their arrogance, egotism, ignorance and belligerence.

    They are taught to hate Whites by being constantly told racist Whites are holding them back and causing their many problems — it’s all over the media man — that scumbag Jussie Smollett did what he did because he knew everyone would immediately believe him — everyone that mattered anyway, ie the media — and they did: they spread his story uncritically and no doubt it ginned up more hatred of whitey — that robbery in Palestine, TX, where a Black doused inflammable liquid on two white females in a store and set them on fire happened after the Smollett hoax — was that guy motivated in part by this blame and hate whitey media campaign? — they never ask this question.

    Look at the vitriol directed at that Covington Catholic kid.

    • Replies: @flyingtiger
    Amen, People do not know that they are trained from birth to hate us.
    , @Susan
    That's exactly right, they are taught to hate whites. Their low IQ makes them easy to brainwash, and the government starts the brainwashing very early in their lives.
  65. @Non PC Infidel
    Negroes walk in the middle of the road or, when crossing the road at a redlight that's turned green, will arrogantly walk as slowly as possible to inconvenience everyone. It's done to prove how special they are and how important. I once yelled at one, "Get out of the road, you stupid motherf*cker" and stepped on the gas. It leaped out of the way and began screaming and throwing a fit. I "disrespekdid" it.

    A friend of mine accidentally drove down a dead end street in a negro area and had to turn around to get out but that meant negroes having to move out of the way as they were all standing in the street. They then chased him down the street throwing rocks and bottles at his car. More "disrespek." Kangs and Kweens be walkin' here!

    Put simply, it's just a product of their arrogance, egotism, ignorance and belligerence.

    …to inconvenience everyone.

    The reason for their existence. They must take an oath.

    Do you [state your negro name],
    promise to hinder, hamper, obstruct, impede, inhibit, retard, balk, thwart, foil, baffle, curb, delay, arrest, interfere with, set back, slow down, hold back, hold up, forestall, stop, halt, restrict, restrain, constrain, block, check, curtail, frustrate, cramp, handicap, cripple, hamstring, shackle, fetter, encumber, stymie, and just be a general pain in the ass so long as you shall live, so help you God?

    • LOL: WSG
  66. @William Badwhite

    If I survive such an incident, my attacker or his family will civilly sue me into ruin, even if I prevail in any criminal investigation of my conduct
     
    I carry as well and your point here is not understood by enough people. If the incident takes place outside your home, even if you're cleared criminally, if you have more than a moderate level of wealth/income, there is a 100% chance you will be sued civilly. The yoof that attacked you will have been an honor student and aspiring rapper that was also trying to "make the NBA" and you will have deprived his mom and baby momma(s) of all that wealth he was going to have while he ain't did nuffin. The burden of proof will be much lower and the jury will likely include at least some blacks that will see you as a trigger-happy cracker that likes executing black babies.

    Situational awareness any time you're around them, and extracting yourself from the situation if at all possible, even if it means losing a car or other belongings is preferable to lethal force. Think of your weapon as less a means of killing someone and more of a way of making them back off while you leave.

    …there is a 100% chance you will be sued civilly.

    This is probably an exaggeration — it depends on the outcome of any criminal investigation and/or trial — if no charges were filed or the shooter was not found criminally liable in a trial, then a civil suit is significantly less likely simply because a favorable outcome is significantly less likely — these people won’t have the money to pay a lawyer up front, and a lawyer won’t take the case otherwise if the probability of success is low.

    Trayvon Martin’s parents sued the homeowner’s association where he was shot, not George Zimmerman, who’d just been acquitted in a criminal trial (the homeowner’s association, or more likely their insurance carrier, decided to settle out of court, although it is not clear why since the evidence in the criminal trial showed the ‘not guilty’ verdict was appropriate — just to avoid the expense of a trial probably).

    A famous exception is the OJ Simpson case, but then it was clear in the criminal trial that there was a ton of evidence against Simpson that the criminal jury just disregarded.

    But everyone should note your comment and the one by “gp” — use of a firearm is a very serious matter and should only be done when you or someone else is facing imminent death or grave injury and there is no alternative.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    100% is a slight exaggeration, but if you have money you are at tremendous risk. There are attorneys that scan police reports daily for "rich white guy defends himself from blaq attaq" stuff and they quickly can get an idea for what type of wealth you have. If you're just some random guy with a job and not much else they likely move on, but if not....

    Mostly they'll push for a settlement and you'd be wise to take it. You do not want to go in front of a jury of your dead attacker's peers (his moral and intellectual peers). They see Whitey with dollars as a nothing more than a sheep to be shorn. Bear in mind their definition of "rich" and yours may be wildly different. You have $100k in a 401k? White guy thinks he's way behind on saving for retirement. Black jury sees white guy as a billionaire - the idea of saving money is completely alien to many if not most of them.

    In the Zimmerman example, they likely sued the HOA rather than Zimmerman for the simple reason that Zimmerman didn't have money. That is why I used the qualifier "If you have income/wealth" above and in my earlier comment. If you have money you do not want to get involved with the legal system as a defendant in any way. That's why the HOA settled. Its better than taking your chances in the Ghetto Lottery.

    Massad Ayoob's "In the Gravest Extreme" is a must read for anyone that carries, but I wouldn't rely on his explanation of the law as the book is almost 40 years old. Stuff changes all the time (in general gun laws have loosened since 1980 but it varies by jurisdiction). Someone that gets a concealed carry permit and starts carrying a gun without doing homework on the relevant laws and without taking a tactical handgun course is, in my opinion, making a tremendous mistake. When I read commenters posting things like "I'm not worried about negroes, I pack heat and would have no problem blowing them away" I just shake my head and hope they never need to learn the hard way.

  67. @ShermanFan
    This type of attitude is why we left Atlanta.

    Blacks just don’t care.
    You can’t reason with them, you can’t argue with them, you can’t even have a simple disagreement without it becoming a slight that they take as a personal attack and over-react with extreme violence.

    There is an endless stream of this and it keeps getting worse. Those that pay attention know it started to gain momentum in 2009 and continues to this day.

    Unless you are forced to work with blacks,
    Don’t use their shops or services,
    Don’t let them in your home, don’t take their money for work, just say no.
    Go to a different cashier at the business, or leave.
    Don’t eat at black run restaurants, don’t eat in black majority areas.
    Don’t stay out after 10pm, unless sober and carrying a pistol, NEVER in majority black areas.
    NEVER get drunk in public.

    Don’t let them in your home, don’t take their money for work, just say no.

    Yep. I bought a new stove from a major appliance chain about two years ago and the installers call you on the day they can install the unit. One day I got the call and a voice on the other end said “We gots yo oven….iz u ready for us to come over and install it?” There was no mistake what color the guy on the other end was.

    I was shocked because anything that requires a little skill is done by whites or hispanics and most of my installers in the past have been white. I told the guy no I wasn’t ready and needed to reschedule. I will not let blacks into my house and associate with them as little as possible.

    A couple days later an hispanic guy called and asked if I was ready for the installation and I said yes. Both installers were hispanic but they just quickly removed the old oven and installed the new oven and left.

  68. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "His mistake was having any dealings with blacks. "

    You forget: whites are not allowed to freely associate. Blacks have the force of the US government behind them in their never ending effort to have access to white prosperity, productivity, and wealth. Had the victim attempted to exercise his right to free association, he would have had to endure the full force of the US government and its brigades of POC goons.

    You forget: whites are not allowed to freely associate. Blacks have the force of the US government behind them

    That’s right and Bill Barr, attorney general of the white nationalist Trump administration probably would have sicced the anti-white radicals at the “civil rights” division on this hapless white mechanic.

  69. @gp
    In my urban hellhole, flashy black drivers buy Audis and Jaguars, not BMWs and Mercedes. I don't know if the Escalades have lost their appeal yet. I haven't seen spinner rims in forever, but they still dearly love their tinted windshields.

    Our pedestrian blacks prefer to walk in the middle of the street, rather than use the sidewalks. I haven't dared ask them why they do that. Do they do that where you guys live too?

    Yes, because if they get hit and injured, they’ve won the legal-system lottery. And also as Non PC Infidel says, because of their sullen sense of resentment

  70. @eah
    Put simply, it’s just a product of their arrogance, egotism, ignorance and belligerence.

    They are taught to hate Whites by being constantly told racist Whites are holding them back and causing their many problems -- it's all over the media man -- that scumbag Jussie Smollett did what he did because he knew everyone would immediately believe him -- everyone that mattered anyway, ie the media -- and they did: they spread his story uncritically and no doubt it ginned up more hatred of whitey -- that robbery in Palestine, TX, where a Black doused inflammable liquid on two white females in a store and set them on fire happened after the Smollett hoax -- was that guy motivated in part by this blame and hate whitey media campaign? -- they never ask this question.

    Look at the vitriol directed at that Covington Catholic kid.

    Amen, People do not know that they are trained from birth to hate us.

  71. @Augustus
    ODL!!! Why must I be subjected to this Paint Job Theory over and over adinfinitim!?! We are most definitely NOT all the same behind a different colored outer shell. Your philosophy of moral equivalence, as taught by all your leftist professors who've never worked in the real world, doesn't hold up with race any more than with religion or government. Government's directing markets from the top down have the same results and freedoms as allowed by free market capitalism? Think an Obama directed economy ignoring private property works better than a voluntary exchange free market? Got any idea what grew America's standard of living better and faster, in disease fighting and manufacturing of consumer products than ever before in the history of the world for every class of citizen in the US? Ever encouraged to think about it while receiving your leftist education?

    Religions all the same too? Christianity treat women and homos the same as Islam? Christianity have built in teaching of terrorism against outsiders? Again, not the same. NO moral equivalence.

    Blacks like all others? Same character and values for all under a different skin tone? Ever heard of pattern recognition? Every variety of life on earth uses it as a defense mechanism, but you call me a racist bigot if I use it to protect my loved ones. Okay then, I am a bigot, but my family is safer while blacks have 13% of the population committing 52% of the violent crime if I know that difference in moral character and teach it to them. Which would be worse for the safety of my family? My "racist bigotry," or your blind refusal to recognize pattern recognition?

    Go ahead, call me racist. The term has been so overused by holier-than-thou leftists to silence dissent, and reality, as to have been rendered meaningless. Say hello from me to your Uncle Joe Stalin. Tell him I'm still out here and still armed! AND I have the moose!

    To make things worse, The 13% committing half the violent crime is not the entire afro population, it’s young males …so minus the old folk,most women and kids under the age of maybe 12, It’s more like 4-5% of the negroes causing the problems…..those are some crazy stats !!

    • Replies: @Augustus
    Agreed. The highest crime ages are something around 16 - 28 or
    so. Meaning only about 3%. That rate of serious crime stands out in a blatant way, and is impossible to notice.
  72. @Jimr7
    To make things worse, The 13% committing half the violent crime is not the entire afro population, it's young males ...so minus the old folk,most women and kids under the age of maybe 12, It's more like 4-5% of the negroes causing the problems.....those are some crazy stats !!

    Agreed. The highest crime ages are something around 16 – 28 or
    so. Meaning only about 3%. That rate of serious crime stands out in a blatant way, and is impossible to notice.

    • Agree: eah
    • Replies: @Oleaginous Outrager
    I tried to explain this understatement of the facts on Twitter the other day, but even the "13 doing 50" crowd didn't seem to grasp it.
  73. @Augustus
    Agreed. The highest crime ages are something around 16 - 28 or
    so. Meaning only about 3%. That rate of serious crime stands out in a blatant way, and is impossible to notice.

    I tried to explain this understatement of the facts on Twitter the other day, but even the “13 doing 50” crowd didn’t seem to grasp it.

    • Replies: @Augustus
    Try telling them that only FIVE counties in ALL of America account for most of the murders

    The fools no longer learn, or have to learn ratio or proportion in public schools. Sad that parents haven't enough say to save their children's lives. I suppose they just don't care. It's often impossible to fight union, entrenched beaucracy.
  74. @eah
    ...there is a 100% chance you will be sued civilly.

    This is probably an exaggeration -- it depends on the outcome of any criminal investigation and/or trial -- if no charges were filed or the shooter was not found criminally liable in a trial, then a civil suit is significantly less likely simply because a favorable outcome is significantly less likely -- these people won't have the money to pay a lawyer up front, and a lawyer won't take the case otherwise if the probability of success is low.

    Trayvon Martin's parents sued the homeowner's association where he was shot, not George Zimmerman, who'd just been acquitted in a criminal trial (the homeowner's association, or more likely their insurance carrier, decided to settle out of court, although it is not clear why since the evidence in the criminal trial showed the 'not guilty' verdict was appropriate -- just to avoid the expense of a trial probably).

    A famous exception is the OJ Simpson case, but then it was clear in the criminal trial that there was a ton of evidence against Simpson that the criminal jury just disregarded.

    But everyone should note your comment and the one by "gp" -- use of a firearm is a very serious matter and should only be done when you or someone else is facing imminent death or grave injury and there is no alternative.

    100% is a slight exaggeration, but if you have money you are at tremendous risk. There are attorneys that scan police reports daily for “rich white guy defends himself from blaq attaq” stuff and they quickly can get an idea for what type of wealth you have. If you’re just some random guy with a job and not much else they likely move on, but if not….

    Mostly they’ll push for a settlement and you’d be wise to take it. You do not want to go in front of a jury of your dead attacker’s peers (his moral and intellectual peers). They see Whitey with dollars as a nothing more than a sheep to be shorn. Bear in mind their definition of “rich” and yours may be wildly different. You have $100k in a 401k? White guy thinks he’s way behind on saving for retirement. Black jury sees white guy as a billionaire – the idea of saving money is completely alien to many if not most of them.

    In the Zimmerman example, they likely sued the HOA rather than Zimmerman for the simple reason that Zimmerman didn’t have money. That is why I used the qualifier “If you have income/wealth” above and in my earlier comment. If you have money you do not want to get involved with the legal system as a defendant in any way. That’s why the HOA settled. Its better than taking your chances in the Ghetto Lottery.

    Massad Ayoob’s “In the Gravest Extreme” is a must read for anyone that carries, but I wouldn’t rely on his explanation of the law as the book is almost 40 years old. Stuff changes all the time (in general gun laws have loosened since 1980 but it varies by jurisdiction). Someone that gets a concealed carry permit and starts carrying a gun without doing homework on the relevant laws and without taking a tactical handgun course is, in my opinion, making a tremendous mistake. When I read commenters posting things like “I’m not worried about negroes, I pack heat and would have no problem blowing them away” I just shake my head and hope they never need to learn the hard way.

  75. @Oleaginous Outrager
    I tried to explain this understatement of the facts on Twitter the other day, but even the "13 doing 50" crowd didn't seem to grasp it.

    Try telling them that only FIVE counties in ALL of America account for most of the murders

    The fools no longer learn, or have to learn ratio or proportion in public schools. Sad that parents haven’t enough say to save their children’s lives. I suppose they just don’t care. It’s often impossible to fight union, entrenched beaucracy.

    • Replies: @Not Woke--Not Broke
    Augustus---Post 74-------There is a reason parent's and grandparents can't help the kiddies with math problems.Common Core "maff" is an educational bureaucracy's tool to equalize educational outcomes. The bureaucracy is also big on group work in "skool". Consider K-12 the bureaucratic equivalent of a slow motion,expensive lobotomy.
    , @Not Woke--Not Broke
    Augustus says---Post 76 We may not be able to get that border wall.Maybe we could focus on fencing 5 counties.
  76. @gp
    I see above many comments about carrying firearms. I'm a target shooter and concealed carrier.

    I came here to say that my pistol cannot keep me "safe," and it's a mistake to get into that mindset. Nor is it a tool of righteous justice and social improvement, as some c0mmenters imply. The pistol _might_ help keep me alive in a street situation where I face an imminent, actionable threat of death or grievous bodily harm, but it is no guarantee. If I survive such an incident, my attacker or his family will civilly sue me into ruin, even if I prevail in any criminal investigation of my conduct. Defensive gun use is not something to eagerly look forward to, no matter how satisfying it might be to daydream about blowing away menacing thugs.

    The thing that keeps me safest is situational awareness: staying away from stupid people doing stupid things in stupid places at stupid times. You all know the who, what, where, when. Awareness is far more powerful than arms when it comes to providing real personal safety outside the home.

    Of course, if you are attacked within your home, go ahead and open fire without reservation. Anybody who breaks into your home, knowing you are there, is surely willing to kill you.

    I agree with you totally gp

  77. @Augustus
    Try telling them that only FIVE counties in ALL of America account for most of the murders

    The fools no longer learn, or have to learn ratio or proportion in public schools. Sad that parents haven't enough say to save their children's lives. I suppose they just don't care. It's often impossible to fight union, entrenched beaucracy.

    Augustus—Post 74——-There is a reason parent’s and grandparents can’t help the kiddies with math problems.Common Core “maff” is an educational bureaucracy’s tool to equalize educational outcomes. The bureaucracy is also big on group work in “skool”. Consider K-12 the bureaucratic equivalent of a slow motion,expensive lobotomy.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  78. @Jim in Jersey
    Whenever I get a call from an obvious nog for an estimate, I simply delete the voice mail.

    If I can’t tell on the phone(I’ve been fooled before) I’ll just give them a sky high bid and never hear from them again.

    I don’t go in without at least an ASP baton.

    So far, so good.

    Jim in Jersey Post#61———-Smart man. Ebonics and “African” names are sure fire warning signs. Always asking for an upfront cash deposit is another useful tool.Never fully complete the job without being paid. No,forget what i said.Just never show up. Avoid,avoid,AVOID!!!!! There is also a phone app that lets anyone plan routes to avoid unsafe areas,but if you only work local you already have “redlined” certain areas.

  79. @Augustus
    Try telling them that only FIVE counties in ALL of America account for most of the murders

    The fools no longer learn, or have to learn ratio or proportion in public schools. Sad that parents haven't enough say to save their children's lives. I suppose they just don't care. It's often impossible to fight union, entrenched beaucracy.

    Augustus says—Post 76 We may not be able to get that border wall.Maybe we could focus on fencing 5 counties.

    • Agree: Augustus
  80. @realistobserver
    there are stereotypes for a reason

    “there are stereotypes for a reason.”

    The reason is so some people can constantly live down to every last one of them.

  81. @Unbelievable
    I find it highly disingenuous of the news article to highlight the race of both parties. That in itself is promoting racism. Then to read some of these replies, validates that. Criminals are not criminals because of skin color. There are just as many whites committing crimes and killing others as blacks. To say otherwise is ignorant.

    I know many blacks who would condemn this action. Good decent people who go through life being judged by their skin instead of the content of their character. Those who replied above saying disparaging and stereotyping comments - you are narrow minded bigots and racists who truly need to just be quiet. Your perception of blacks is outdated and ignorant, and proves one thing- there are still white folks out there that are just plain old stupid.

    Get a life, get an education, learn about the people who GOD CREATED just like you. Only difference is skin color. They are more like you then you can imagine!

    No, there are not as many whites committing crimes as blacks. Blacks are FAR more criminal than whites and blacks kill FAR more whites than whites kill anyone!

  82. @RoatanBill
    I went to Brooklyn Tech High School in New York decades ago; one of 3 public schools that required an entrance exam to get in. It was in Bedford Stuyvesant, a really terrible neighborhood. The day of the entrance exam I got mugged by two black guys with a zip gun (look it up). It was mid winter and they stole my watch, money and shoes.

    Over the next 4 years I got mugged a few more times, always by local black guys and got knifed twice and shot once. Good thing was it was always in winter when a heavy coat took most of the punishment, even the zip gun flesh wound. In my last year I carried a real 22 cal pistol. The next guy was going to eat lead.

    Graduated to enter Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute in the same lousy neighborhood. In my junior year 2 black guys surrounded me on an empty subway platform. One finally got the courage to demand my money after flashing a switchblade. I looked him straight in the eyes and told him to back off or I'll kill him as I still had the 22 in my coat pocket. He hesitated and they both went away.

    Moved to Texas. Carried a 9mm for decades and had a few close calls but never had to show it. Carrying is my right as a human being despite what the law says.

    Too bad you didn’t get to use it on a few of those worthless-excuses-for-human that attacked you. That’s a horror story!

  83. @eah
    Put simply, it’s just a product of their arrogance, egotism, ignorance and belligerence.

    They are taught to hate Whites by being constantly told racist Whites are holding them back and causing their many problems -- it's all over the media man -- that scumbag Jussie Smollett did what he did because he knew everyone would immediately believe him -- everyone that mattered anyway, ie the media -- and they did: they spread his story uncritically and no doubt it ginned up more hatred of whitey -- that robbery in Palestine, TX, where a Black doused inflammable liquid on two white females in a store and set them on fire happened after the Smollett hoax -- was that guy motivated in part by this blame and hate whitey media campaign? -- they never ask this question.

    Look at the vitriol directed at that Covington Catholic kid.

    That’s exactly right, they are taught to hate whites. Their low IQ makes them easy to brainwash, and the government starts the brainwashing very early in their lives.

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