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This last week trial began in Boston federal court for the current lawsuit in which a collection of Asian-American organizations are charging Harvard University with racial discrimination in its college admissions policies. The New York Times, our national newspaper of record, has been providing almost daily coverage to developments in the case, with the stories sometimes reaching the front page.

Last Sunday, just before the legal proceedings began, the Times ran a major article explaining the general background of the controversy, and I was very pleased to see that my own past research was cited as an important factor sparking the lawsuit, with the reporter even including a direct link to my 26,000 word 2012 cover-story “The Myth of American Meritocracy,” which had provided strong quantitative evidence of anti-Asian racial quotas. Economic historian Niall Ferguson, long one of Harvard’s most prominent professors but recently decamped to Stanford, similarly noted the role of my research in his column for the London Sunday Times.

Two decades ago, I had published a widely-discussed op-ed in The Wall Street Journal on somewhat similar issues of racial discrimination in elite admissions. But my more recent article was far longer and more comprehensive, and certainly drew more attention than anything else I have ever published, before or after. Soon after it appeared in The American Conservative, its hundreds of thousands of pageviews broke all records for that publication and it attracted considerable notice in the media. Times columnist David Brooks soon ranked it as perhaps the best American magazine article of the year, a verdict seconded by a top editor at The Economist, and the Times itself quickly organized a symposium on the topic of Asian Quotas, in which I eagerly participated. Forbes, The Atlantic, The Washington Monthly, Business Insider, and other publications all discussed my striking results.

Conservative circles took considerable interest, with Charles Murray highlighting my findings, and National Review later publishing an article in which I explained the important implications of my findings for the legal validity of the 1978 Bakke decision by the U.S. Supreme Court.

There was also a considerable reaction from the academic community itself. I quickly received speaking invitations from the Yale Political Union, Yale Law, and the University of Chicago Law School, while Prof. Ferguson discussed my distressing analysis in a lengthy Newsweek/Daily Beast entitled “The End of the American Dream.”

Moreover, I had also published an associated critique suggesting that over the years my beloved Harvard alma mater had transformed itself into one of the world’s largest hedge-funds with a vestigial school attached for tax-exempt purposes. This also generated enormous discussion in media circles, with liberal journalist Chris Hayes Tweeting it out and generously saying he was “very jealous” he hadn’t written the piece himself, while many of his colleagues promoted the piece with similarly favorable remarks, while the university quickly provided a weak public response to these serious financial charges.

Meanwhile, unbeknownst to myself or other outside observers, Harvard itself launched an internal investigation of the anti-Asian bias that I had alleged. Apparently, the university’s own initial results generally confirmed my accusations, indicating that if students were admitted solely based upon objective academic merit, far more Asians would receive thick envelopes. But Harvard’s top administrators buried the study and did nothing, with these important facts only coming out years later during the discovery process of the current Asian Quotas lawsuit.

 

Only the first part of my very long article dealt with the question of anti-Asian racial discrimination in elite college admissions, but it attracted vastly more attention than any other element.

For many years, there had been a widespread belief within the Asian-American community that such discriminatory practices existed, a sentiment backed by considerable anecdotal evidence. But the university administrations had always flatly denied those claims, and the media had shown little interest in investigating them. However, my powerful new quantitative evidence was very difficult to ignore.

Among other things, I focused upon the publicly available statewide lists of National Merit Semifinalists (NMS), a group that constituted the highest-performing one-half percent of American high school seniors. By a fortunate coincidence, this fraction of the American student body was reasonably close in size to the total enrollment of students at the Ivy League schools together with similarly elite schools such as Stanford, Caltech, and MIT. The NMS dataset had previously been almost entirely ignored by researchers, but I found it a treasure-trove of useful empirical information.

Since Asian last names are extremely distinctive, I was able to estimate that Asians nationally constituted roughly 25-30% of this top academic group, a figure considerably larger than their enrollment at Harvard and other elite schools. This conclusion was supported by the even greater Asian dominance in more highly selective academic competitions such as the Math Olympiad and the Intel Science Talent Search, though the far smaller numbers involved reduced the statistical validity of that analysis.

But my most dramatic finding relied upon an even simpler analysis of public data, which had previously remained unnoticed. As I wrote in my New York Times column:

Just as their predecessors of the 1920s always denied the existence of “Jewish quotas,” top officials at Harvard, Yale, Princeton and the other Ivy League schools today strongly deny the existence of “Asian quotas.” But there exists powerful statistical evidence to the contrary.

Each year, American universities provide their racial enrollment data to the National Center for Education Statistics, which makes this information available online. After the Justice Department closed an investigation in the early 1990s into charges that Harvard University discriminated against Asian-American applicants, Harvard’s reported enrollment of Asian-Americans began gradually declining, falling from 20.6 percent in 1993 to about 16.5 percent over most of the last decade.

This decline might seem small. But these same years brought a huge increase in America’s college-age Asian population, which roughly doubled between 1992 and 2011, while non-Hispanic white numbers remained almost unchanged. Thus, according to official statistics, the percentage of Asian-Americans enrolled at Harvard fell by more than 50 percent over the last two decades, while the percentage of whites changed little. This decline in relative Asian-American enrollment was actually larger than the impact of Harvard’s 1925 Jewish quota, which reduced Jewish freshmen from 27.6 percent to 15 percent.

The percentages of college-age Asian-Americans enrolled at most of the other Ivy League schools also fell during this same period, and over the last few years Asian enrollments across these different universities have converged to a very similar level and remained static over time. This raises suspicions of a joint Ivy League policy to restrict Asian-American numbers to a particular percentage.

This statistical finding was illustrated in a simple graph, demonstrating that over the last two decades enrollment of Asian-Americans had gradually converged across the entire Ivy League, while sharply diverging from the rapidly increasing Asian-American population, with only strictly meritocratic Caltech continuing to track the latter.

It would be difficult to imagine more obvious visual evidence of an Asian Quota implemented across the Ivy League, and this chart was very widely circulated among Asian-American organizations and activists, who launched their lawsuit the following year. If they do succeed in winning their current case in federal court, the history books may eventually record that the wealthiest and most powerful university in the world was brought low by a single striking graph.

 

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For decades Affirmative Action based upon race has been an extremely contentious topic in American politics, sharply dividing across ideological lines, and it was hardly surprising that my new analysis of that issue produced a wave of coverage. But buried deeper within that same article were even more explosive findings, apparently far too sensitive to even become a subject of significant media scrutiny.

Not without reason, most journalists regard matters touching upon Jewish sensitivities as the lethal “third rail” of their profession, and the bulk of my piece had presented some unexpected new insights in this area. These attracted the widespread private fascination of numerous prominent scholars and members of the media, but almost none of these individuals was willing to publicly disclose the results that had drawn their rapt attention.

As a consequence, these findings have remained largely unnoticed except among those who have actually taken the time to read far into my extremely long piece, while never penetrating into the awareness of the broader public. For example, Prof. Jordan Peterson, a leading celebrity-intellectual with a large YouTube following, recently demonstrated that he was totally ignorant of these important facts. Therefore, I am now taking this opportunity to summarize and excerpt those elements of my Meritocracy analysis that attracted the greatest private interest but received the least public attention.

A few years earlier, Jerome Karabel, an eminent Berkeley sociologist, had published The Chosen, his magisterial history of Jewish enrollment in the Ivy League, which won numerous scholarly accolades. His research conclusively demonstrated the existence of the once-denied Jewish Quotas of the past, employed by the reigning WASP elites to maintain control of those institutions against their upstart ethnic competitors. As I wrote:

Karabel’s massive documentation—over 700 pages and 3000 endnotes—establishes the remarkable fact that America’s uniquely complex and subjective system of academic admissions actually arose as a means of covert ethnic tribal warfare…

As Karabel repeatedly demonstrates, the major changes in admissions policy which later followed were usually determined by factors of raw political power and the balance of contending forces rather than any idealistic considerations. For example, in the aftermath of World War II, Jewish organizations and their allies mobilized their political and media resources to pressure the universities into increasing their ethnic enrollment by modifying the weight assigned to various academic and non-academic factors, raising the importance of the former over the latter. Then a decade or two later, this exact process was repeated in the opposite direction, as the early 1960s saw black activists and their liberal political allies pressure universities to bring their racial minority enrollments into closer alignment with America’s national population by partially shifting away from their recently enshrined focus on purely academic considerations. Indeed, Karabel notes that the most sudden and extreme increase in minority enrollment took place at Yale in the years 1968–69, and was largely due to fears of race riots in heavily black New Haven, which surrounded the campus.

Philosophical consistency appears notably absent in many of the prominent figures involved in these admissions battles, with both liberals and conservatives sometimes favoring academic merit and sometimes non-academic factors, whichever would produce the particular ethnic student mix they desired for personal or ideological reasons. Different political blocs waged long battles for control of particular universities, and sudden large shifts in admissions rates occurred as these groups gained or lost influence within the university apparatus: Yale replaced its admissions staff in 1965 and the following year Jewish numbers nearly doubled.

Branches of Hillel, the Jewish student organization, exist across most college campuses, and for decades they have provided estimates of the percentages of the local Jewish enrollment, with Karabel and other scholars relying upon these to chart the ebbs and flows of Jewish numbers. I discussed how Karabel used this data to celebrate the final meritocratic victory of Jewish college applicants over their former WASP oppressors.

Indeed, Karabel opens the final chapter of his book by…noting the extreme irony that the WASP demographic group which had once so completely dominated America’s elite universities and “virtually all the major institutions of American life” had by 2000 become “a small and beleaguered minority at Harvard,” being actually fewer in number than the Jews whose presence they had once sought to restrict. Very similar results seem to apply all across the Ivy League, with the disproportion often being even greater than the particular example emphasized by Karabel.

 

Karabel showed that the collapse of WASP resistance to the admission of high-performing Jewish students soon drastically reshaped the ethnic composition of these institutions, with his triumphalist narrative suggesting that this transformation raised academic standards and lifted the quality of the student body to new heights. And for decades, I had entirely accepted this simple morality tale, which was implicitly or explicitly presented in nearly all the accounts, liberal and conservative alike, that I had read regarding the history of our leading East Coast universities.

But as I began to quantitatively explore this issue, utilizing the same techniques and data sets I had applied to determining the existence of severe discrimination against Asian applicants, I uncovered evidence of an entirely contrary nature. I soon came to realize that many of my beliefs were merely ideological fairy tales, sometimes little more accurate than the Soviet claims of Russian peasants eagerly joining their collective farms.

Although Jewish names are not nearly as distinctive as Asian ones, they may usually be determined with reasonable accuracy, and applying Weyl analysis to a subset of the most absolutely characteristic ones—such as Goldstein, Silverberg, Cohen, and Kaplan—allows us to statistically validate the results so obtained.

As I thus analyzed the many dozens of statewide NMS lists, I soon discovered that Jews were far less heavily represented among America’s highest-performing students than I had expected, probably constituting no more than 6% of the national NMS total. The lists of the winners of the top scholastic competitions I had previously examined for Asians produced reasonably similar results.

Hispanic names are quite distinct and blacks are fewer in number and somewhat less successful academically, so the NMS totals for those two groups are also not difficult to determine. Once we subtract the totals of Asians, Jews, Hispanics, and blacks, what remains is the NMS total of non-Hispanic white Gentiles. And the results were extremely eye-opening:

The evidence of the recent NMS semifinalist lists seems the most conclusive of all, given the huge statistical sample sizes involved. As discussed earlier, these students constitute roughly the highest 0.5 percent in academic ability, the top 16,000 high school seniors who should be enrolling at the Ivy League and America’s other most elite academic universities. In California, white Gentile names outnumber Jewish ones by over 8-to-1; in Texas, over 20-to-1; in Florida and Illinois, around 9-to-1. Even in New York, America’s most heavily Jewish state, there are more than two high-ability white Gentile students for every Jewish one. Based on the overall distribution of America’s population, it appears that approximately 65–70 percent of America’s highest ability students are non-Jewish whites, well over ten times the Jewish total of under 6 percent.

Needless to say, these proportions are considerably different from what we actually find among the admitted students at Harvard and its elite peers, which today serve as a direct funnel to the commanding heights of American academics, law, business, and finance. Based on reported statistics, Jews approximately match or even outnumber non-Jewish whites at Harvard and most of the other Ivy League schools, which seems wildly disproportionate. Indeed, the official statistics indicate that non-Jewish whites at Harvard are America’s most under-represented population group, enrolled at a much lower fraction of their national population than blacks or Hispanics, despite having far higher academic test scores.

When examining statistical evidence, the proper aggregation of data is critical. Consider the ratio of the recent 2007–2011 enrollment of Asian students at Harvard relative to their estimated share of America’s recent NMS semifinalists, a reasonable proxy for the high-ability college-age population, and compare this result to the corresponding figure for whites. The Asian ratio is 63 percent, slightly above the white ratio of 61 percent, with both these figures being considerably below parity due to the substantial presence of under-represented racial minorities such as blacks and Hispanics, foreign students, and students of unreported race. Thus, there appears to be no evidence for racial bias against Asians, even excluding the race-neutral impact of athletic recruitment, legacy admissions, and geographical diversity.

However, if we separate out the Jewish students, their ratio turns out to be 435 percent, while the residual ratio for non-Jewish whites drops to just 28 percent, less than half of even the Asian figure. As a consequence, Asians appear under-represented relative to Jews by a factor of seven, while non-Jewish whites are by far the most under-represented group of all, despite any benefits they might receive from athletic, legacy, or geographical distribution factors. The rest of the Ivy League tends to follow a similar pattern, with the overall Jewish ratio being 381 percent, the Asian figure at 62 percent, and the ratio for non-Jewish whites a low 35 percent, all relative to their number of high-ability college-age students.

Just as striking as these wildly disproportionate current numbers have been the longer enrollment trends. In the three decades since I graduated Harvard, the presence of white Gentiles has dropped by as much as 70 percent, despite no remotely comparable decline in the relative size or academic performance of that population; meanwhile, the percentage of Jewish students has actually increased. This period certainly saw a very rapid rise in the number of Asian, Hispanic, and foreign students, as well as some increase in blacks. But it seems rather odd that all of these other gains would have come at the expense of whites of Christian background, and none at the expense of Jews.

Several graphs from my article effectively illustrated these remarkable findings.

Based on these figures, Jewish students were roughly 1,000% more likely to be enrolled at Harvard and the rest of the Ivy League than white Gentiles of similar ability. This was an absolutely astonishing result given that under-representation in the range of 20% or 30% is often treated by courts as powerful prima facie evidence of racial discrimination.

Furthermore, I noted the possibility that this discrepancy might be related to the overwhelming Jewish dominance of the top administration of those institutions:

It would be unreasonable to ignore the salient fact that this massive apparent bias in favor of far less-qualified Jewish applicants coincides with an equally massive ethnic skew at the topmost administrative ranks of the universities in question, a situation which once again exactly parallels Karabel’s account from the 1920s. Indeed, Karabel points out that by 1993 Harvard, Yale, and Princeton all had presidents of Jewish ancestry, and the same is true for the current presidents of Yale, Penn, Cornell, and possibly Columbia, as well as Princeton’s president throughout during the 1990s and Yale’s new incoming president, while all three of Harvard’s most recent presidents have either had Jewish origins or a Jewish spouse.

At most universities, a provost is the second-ranking official, being responsible for day-to-day academic operations. Although Princeton’s current president is not Jewish, all seven of the most recent Princeton provosts stretching back to 1977 have had such ancestry, with several of the other Ivies not being far behind. A similar degree of massive overrepresentation is found throughout the other top administrative ranks of the rest of the Ivy League, and across American leading educational institutions in general, and these are the institutions which select our future national elites.

Since the publication of my 2012 article, Harvard and Princeton have both selected new presidents, each of them Jewish, while Yale’s Jewish president has remained in office.

 

The exact mechanism by which this seemingly enormous bias in favor of Jewish applicants to our most elite colleges manifests itself is not entirely clear, and I very doubt that it takes the crude form of top administrators directing admissions officers to enroll under-qualified Jewish applicants. Instead, I strongly suggested that a leading factor was the “negative pressure” of America’s overwhelmingly Jewish media and Jewish activist groups, which might respond harshly to any significant decline in Jewish numbers:

Meanwhile, any hint of “anti-Semitism” in admissions is regarded as an absolutely mortal sin, and any significant reduction in Jewish enrollment may often be denounced as such by the hair-trigger media. For example, in 1999 Princeton discovered that its Jewish enrollment had declined to just 500 percent of parity, down from more than 700 percent in the mid-1980s, and far below the comparable figures for Harvard or Yale. This quickly resulted in four front-page stories in the Daily Princetonian, a major article in the New York Observer, and extensive national coverage in both the New York Times and the Chronicle of Higher Education. These articles included denunciations of Princeton’s long historical legacy of anti-Semitism and quickly led to official apologies, followed by an immediate 30 percent rebound in Jewish numbers. During these same years, non-Jewish white enrollment across the entire Ivy League had dropped by roughly 50 percent, reducing those numbers to far below parity, but this was met with media silence or even occasional congratulations on the further “multicultural” progress of America’s elite education system.

I suspect that the combined effect of these separate pressures, rather than any planned or intentional bias, is the primary cause of the striking enrollment statistics that we have examined above. In effect, somewhat dim and over-worked admissions officers, generally possessing weak quantitative skills, have been tasked by their academic superiors and media monitors with the twin ideological goals of enrolling Jews and enrolling non-whites, with any major failures risking harsh charges of either “anti-Semitism” or “racism.” But by inescapable logic maximizing the number of Jews and non-whites implies minimizing the number of non-Jewish whites.

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I further noted that this 1999 firestorm of media controversy attacking Princeton for its alleged “anti-Semitism” took place at a time when university’s president and provost were both Jewish, and the campus had recently opened a $4.5 million Center for Jewish Life.

In 2002, Jacques Steinberg, a longtime National Educational Correspondent for the New York Times, published The Gatekeepers, a widely praised best-seller that provided an “inside look” at the college admissions process based on the year he had spent embedded with those officials at Wesleyan, and the 2012 edition of his book stated that few aspects of the process had changed during the previous decade. I was deeply distressed by his description of the background of the admissions officers:

In fact, it seems likely that some of these obvious admissions biases we have noticed may be related to the poor human quality and weak academic credentials of many of the university employees making these momentous decisions. As mentioned above, the job of admissions officer is poorly paid, requires no professional training, and offers few opportunities for career advancement; thus, it is often filled by individuals with haphazard employment records. As one of the “Little Ivies,” Wesleyan is among America’s most prestigious liberal arts colleges, and Steinberg’s description of the career paths of its handful of admissions officers is eye-opening: the interim Director of Admissions had most recently screened food-stamp recipients and run a psychiatric half-way house; another had worked as an animal control officer and managed a camera store; a third unsuccessfully sought a job as a United Airlines flight attendant; others were recent college graduates, whose main college interests had been sports or ethnic studies. The vast majority seem to possess minimal academic expertise and few intellectual interests, raising serious questions about their ability to reasonably evaluate their higher-quality applicants.

Books by former members of the Harvard and Dartmouth admissions strongly supported the same conclusions.

As additional evidence, we can consider What It Really Takes to Get into the Ivy League, a 2003 advice book written by Chuck Hughes, who spent five years as a Senior Admissions Officer at Harvard, after having himself graduated from that university. Although he strongly emphasizes his own college participation in varsity sports, he never says a word about any personal academic interests, and near the end of his book on elite college admissions, he appears to describe Duke, Northwestern, and Rice as being members of the Ivy League.

A more explicit statement of this exact problem is found in A for Admission, a very candid 1997 description of the admissions process at elite private universities written by Michele A. Hernandez, who had spent four years as Dartmouth’s Assistant Director of Admissions. Near the beginning of her book, Hernandez explains that over half of Ivy League admissions officers are individuals who had not attended such academically challenging universities, nor probably had the intellectual capability to do so, and were sometimes confused about the relative ranking of SAT scores and other basic academic credentials. She also cautions students to avoid any subtlety in their essays, lest their words be misunderstood by their readers in the admissions office, whose degrees are more likely to have been in education than in any serious academic discipline.

Given this unfortunate situation, we should not be overly surprised by the egregious aspects of the particular admissions stories that Steinberg recounts.

Consider the case of Tiffany Wang, a Chinese immigrant student raised in the Silicon Valley area, where her father worked as an engineer. Although English was not her first language, her SAT scores were over 100 points above the Wesleyan average, and she ranked as a National Merit Scholarship semifinalist, putting her in the top 0.5 percent of high school students (not the top 2 percent as Steinberg mistakenly claims). Nevertheless, the admissions officer rated her just so-so in academics, and seemed far more positively impressed by her ethnic activism in the local school’s Asian-American club. Ultimately, he stamped her with a “Reject,” but later admitted to Steinberg that she might have been admitted if he had been aware of the enormous time and effort she had spent campaigning against the death penalty, a political cause near and dear to his own heart. Somehow I suspect that a student who boasted of leadership in pro-death penalty activism among his extracurriculars might have fared rather worse in this process. And presumably for similar reasons, Tiffany was also rejected by all her other prestigious college choices, including Yale, Penn, Duke, and Wellesley, an outcome which greatly surprised and disappointed her immigrant father.

There was also the case of half-Brazilian Julianna Bentes, with slight black ancestry, who came from a middle-class family and attended on a partial scholarship one of America’s most elite prep schools, whose annual tuition now tops $30,000; her SAT scores were somewhat higher than Tiffany’s, and she was an excellent dancer. The combination of her academic ability, dancing talent, and “multiracial” background ranked her as one of America’s top college recruitment prospects, gaining her admission and generous financial packages from Harvard, Yale, Stanford and every other elite university to which she applied, including the University of Chicago’s most prestigious academic scholarship award and a personal opportunity to meet Chelsea Clinton while visiting Stanford, which she did, before ultimately selecting Yale.

Finally, there was the case of Becca Jannol, a girl from a very affluent Jewish family near Beverly Hills, who attended the same elite prep school as Julianna, but with her parents paying the full annual tuition. Despite her every possible advantage, including test-prep courses and retaking the exam, her SAT scores were some 240 points lower on the 1600 point scale, placing her toward the bottom of the Wesleyan range, while her application essay focused on the philosophical challenges she encountered when she was suspended for illegal drug use. But she was a great favorite of her prep school counselor, who was an old college friend of the Wesleyan admissions officer, and using his discretion, he stamped her “Admit.” Her dismal academic record then caused this initial decision to be overturned by a unanimous vote of the other members of the full admissions committee, but he refused to give up, and moved heaven and earth to gain her a spot, even offering to rescind the admissions of one or more already selected applicants to create a place for her. Eventually he got her shifted from the Reject category to wait-list status, after which he secretly moved her folder to the very top of the large waiting list pile.

In the end “connections” triumphed, and she received admission to Wesleyan, although she turned it down in favor of an offer from more prestigious Cornell, which she had obtained through similar means. But at Cornell, she found herself “miserable,” hating the classes and saying she “didn’t see the usefulness of [her] being there.” However, her poor academic ability proved no hindrance, since the same administrator who had arranged her admission also wrangled her a quick entrance into a special “honors program” he personally ran, containing just 40 of the 3500 students in her year. This exempted her from all academic graduation requirements, apparently including classes or tests, thereby allowing her to spend her four college years mostly traveling around the world while working on a so-called “special project.” After graduation, she eventually took a job at her father’s successful law firm, thereby realizing her obvious potential as a member of America’s ruling Ivy League elite, or in her own words, as being one of “the best of the best.”

Jannol’s account also contains a particularly intriguing element. Personal essays have become a crucial component of application packages to elite colleges, and these are considered especially effective if they provide strong evidence of hardships and victimhood. Given her extremely wealthy and privileged background, Jannol had originally considered focusing on her status as the granddaughter of a Holocaust survivor, but ultimately decided against it because so many of her peers would be following exactly that same stratagem, explaining to Steinberg that “Everyone’s going to write about their Holocaust grandma.”

Over the last few decades, our news and entertainment industries have elevated Jewish suffering during World War II into the most horrific and monumental tragedy of the modern era, and it not impossible that a substantial fraction of the unfair Jewish advantage in elite admissions may derive from something as simple as the ability of the children of elite Jewish families to wrap themselves in the ultimate victimhood of Holocaust survivor status.

If so, this situation would be particularly ironic, given the considerable evidence that the Holocaust is substantially fraudulent, or even almost entirely so, merely a hoax promoted by heavily Jewish Hollywood, perhaps partially intended to conceal the inescapable reality that in per capita terms Jews worldwide were surely the greatest mass-murderers of the twentieth century.

 

I had been stunned by my evidence of the unreasonable over-representation of Jewish students at our most elite academic institutions, and most of the prominent scholars and journalists who read my analysis seemed to have a similar reaction. Further analysis suggested some of the crucial reasons for this widespread myopia, which I explicated in a section entitled “The Strange Collapse of Jewish Academic Achievement.”

From my own perspective, I found these statistical results surprising, even shocking.

I had always been well aware of the very heavy Jewish presence at elite academic institutions. But the underwhelming percentage of Jewish students who today achieve high scores on academic aptitude tests was totally unexpected, and very different from the impressions I had formed during my own high school and college years a generation or so ago. An examination of other available statistics seems to support my recollections and provides evidence for a dramatic recent decline in the academic performance of American Jews

The U.S. Math Olympiad began in 1974, and all the names of the top scoring students are easily available on the Internet. During the 1970s, well over 40 percent of the total were Jewish, and during the 1980s and 1990s, the fraction averaged about one-third. However, during the thirteen years since 2000, just two names out of 78 or 2.5 percent appear to be Jewish. The Putnam Exam is the most difficult and prestigious mathematics competition for American college students, with five or six Putnam winners having been selected each year since 1938. Over 40 percent of the Putnam winners prior to 1950 were Jewish, and during every decade from the 1950s through the 1990s, between 22 percent and 31 percent of the winners seem to have come from that same ethnic background. But since 2000, the percentage has dropped to under 10 percent, without a single likely Jewish name in the last seven years.

This consistent picture of stark ethnic decline recurs when we examine the statistics for the Science Talent Search, which has been selecting 40 students as national finalists for America’s most prestigious high school science award since 1942, thus providing a huge statistical dataset of over 2800 top science students. During every decade from the 1950s through the 1980s, Jewish students were consistently 22–23 percent of the recipients, with the percentage then declining to 17 percent in the 1990s, 15 percent in the 2000s, and just 7 percent since 2010. Indeed, of the thirty top ranked students over the last three years, only a single one seems likely to have been Jewish. Similarly, Jews were over one-quarter of the top students in the Physics Olympiad from 1986 to 1997, but have fallen to just 5 percent over the last decade, a result which must surely send Richard Feynman spinning in his grave.

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Taken in combination, these trends all provide powerful evidence that over the last decade or more there has been a dramatic collapse in Jewish academic achievement, at least at the high end.

Several possible explanations for this empirical result seem reasonably plausible. Although the innate potential of a group is unlikely to drop so suddenly, achievement is a function of both ability and effort, and today’s overwhelmingly affluent Jewish students may be far less diligent in their work habits or driven in their studies than were their parents or grandparents, who lived much closer to the bracing challenges of the immigrant experience. In support of this hypothesis, roughly half of the Jewish Math Olympiad winners from the last two decades have had the sort of highly distinctive names which would tend to mark them as recent immigrants from the Soviet Union or elsewhere, and such names were also very common among the top Jewish science students of the same period, even though this group represents only about 10 percent of current American Jews. Indeed, it seems quite possible that this large sudden influx of very high performing immigrant Jews from the late 1980s onward served to partially mask the rapid concurrent decline of high academic achievement among native American Jews, which otherwise would have become much more clearly evident a decade or so earlier.

This pattern of third or fourth generation American students lacking the academic drive or intensity of their forefathers is hardly surprising, nor unique to Jews. Consider the case of Japanese-Americans, who mostly arrived in America during roughly the same era. America’s Japanese have always been a high-performing group, with a strong academic tradition, and Japan’s international PISA academic scores are today among the highest in the world. But when we examine the list of California’s NMS semifinalists, less than 1 percent of the names are Japanese, roughly in line with their share of the California population. Meanwhile, Chinese, Koreans, and South Asians are 6 percent of California but contribute 50 percent of the top scoring students, an eight-fold better result, with a major likely difference being that they are overwhelmingly of recent immigrant origin. In fact, although ongoing Japanese immigration has been trivial in size, a significant fraction of the top Japanese students have the unassimilated Japanese first names that would tend to indicate they are probably drawn from that tiny group.

In his 1966 book The Creative Elite in America, Weyl used last name analysis to document a similarly remarkable collapse in achievement among America’s Puritan-descended population, which had once provided a hugely disproportionate fraction of our intellectual leadership, but for various reasons went into rapid decline from about 1900 onward. He also mentions the disappearance of the remarkable Scottish intellectual contribution to British life after about 1800. Although the evidence for both these historical parallels seems very strong, the causal factors are not entirely clear, though Weyl does provide some possible explanations.

In some respects, perhaps it was the enormously outsize Jewish academic performance of the past which was highly anomalous, and the more recent partial convergence toward white European norms which is somewhat less surprising. Over the years, claims have been widely circulated that the mean Jewish IQ is a full standard deviation—15 points—above the white average of 100, but this seems to have little basis in reality. Richard Lynn, one of the world’s foremost IQ experts, has performed an exhaustive literature review and located some 32 IQ samples of American Jews, taken from 1920 to 2008. For the first 14 studies conducted during the years 1920–1937, the Jewish IQ came out very close to the white American mean, and it was only in later decades that the average figure rose to the approximate range of 107–111.

In a previous article “Race, IQ & Wealth,” I had suggested that the IQs of ethnic groups appear to be far more malleable than many people would acknowledge, and may be particularly influenced by factors of urbanization, education, and affluence. Given that Jews have always been America’s most heavily urbanized population and became the most affluent during the decades in question, these factors may account for a substantial portion of their huge IQ rise during most of the twentieth century. But with modern electronic technology recently narrowing the gaps in social environment and educational opportunities between America’s rural and urban worlds, we might expect a portion of this difference to gradually dissipate. American Jews are certainly a high-ability population, but the innate advantage they have over other high-ability white populations is probably far smaller than is widely believed.

This conclusion is supported by the General Social Survey (GSS), an online dataset of tens of thousands of American survey responses from the last forty years which includes the Wordsum vocabulary test, a very useful IQ proxy correlating at 0.71. Converted into the corresponding IQ scores, the Wordsum-IQ of Jews is indeed quite high at 109. But Americans of English, Welsh, Scottish, Swedish, and Catholic Irish ancestry also have fairly high mean IQs of 104 or above, and their combined populations outnumber Jews by almost 15-to-1, implying that they would totally dominate the upper reaches of the white American ability distribution, even if we excluded the remaining two-thirds of all American whites, many of whose IQs are also fairly high. Furthermore, all these groups are far less highly urbanized or affluent than Jews, probably indicating that their scores are still artificially depressed to some extent. We should also remember that Jewish intellectual performance tends to be quite skewed, being exceptionally strong in the verbal subcomponent, much lower in math, and completely mediocre in visuospatial ability; thus, a completely verbal-oriented test such as Wordsum would actually tend to exaggerate Jewish IQ.

Stratifying the white American population along religious lines produces similar conclusions. An analysis of the data from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth found that Americans raised in the Episcopal Church actually exceeded Jews in mean IQ, while several other religious categories came quite close, leading to the result that the overwhelming majority of America’s high-ability white population had a non-Jewish background.

Finally, in the case of Jews, these assimilation- or environment-related declines in relative academic performance may have been reinforced by powerful demographic trends. For the last generation or two, typical Jewish women from successful or even ordinary families have married very late and averaged little more than a single child, while the small fraction of Jewish women who are ultra-Orthodox often marry in their teens and then produce seven or eight children. As a consequence, this extremely religious subpopulation has been doubling in size every twenty years, and now easily exceeds 10 percent of the total, including a far higher percentage of younger Jews. But ultra-Orthodox Jews have generally been academically mediocre, often with enormously high rates of poverty and government dependency. Therefore, the combination of these two radically different trends of Jewish reproduction has acted to stabilize the total number of Jewish youngsters, while probably producing a sharp drop in their average academic achievement.

 

Although the relative importance of these individual factors behind Jewish academic decline is unclear, the decline itself seems an unmistakable empirical fact, and the widespread unawareness of this fact has had important social consequences.

My casual mental image of today’s top American students is based upon my memories of a generation or so ago, when Jewish students, sometimes including myself, regularly took home a quarter or more of the highest national honors on standardized tests or in prestigious academic competitions; thus, it seemed perfectly reasonable that Harvard and most of the other Ivy League schools might be 25 percent Jewish, based on meritocracy. But the objective evidence indicates that in present day America, only about 6 percent of our top students are Jewish, which now renders such very high Jewish enrollments at elite universities totally absurd and ridiculous. I strongly suspect that a similar time lag effect is responsible for the apparent confusion in many others who have considered the topic.

For example, throughout his very detailed book, Karabel always seems to automatically identify increasing Jewish enrollments with academic meritocracy, and Jewish declines with bias or discrimination, retaining this assumption even when his discussion moves into the 1990s and 2000s. He was born in 1950, graduated Harvard in 1972, and returned there to earn his Ph.D. in 1977, so this may indeed have been the reality during his formative years. But he seems strikingly unaware that the world has changed since then, and that over the last decade or two, meritocracy and Jewish numbers have become opposing forces: the stricter the meritocratic standard, the fewer the Jews admitted.

Evidence of the remarkable collapse of Jewish academic achievement is easily seen in a series of charts:

 

Important results with major policy implications will only have significant impact if they are widely distributed, and in this regard I faced formidable obstacles.

My article was running in The American Conservative, a small circulation political opinion magazine of which I was the publisher, and so my findings needed to break through into far larger and more mainstream outlets in order to reach a sizable audience. But in the past TAC had often been fiercely denounced by Jewish activists and organizations, mostly on foreign policy issues, and elements of my piece were far more inflammatory than had been any of that other material. While harsh attacks might help promote my information within particular ideological circles, they would surely dissuade mainstream publications from taking notice, and would also sufficiently stigmatize my research that no respectable individual would be willing to cite it in the future.

My first decision was to place my Asian Quota section near the front of my very long text. Aside from the intrinsic importance, this would also provide interested readers with a relatively safe “hook” that they could use to describe and promote my analysis, while allowing them to safely avoid mention of the “third rail” material that constituted the bulk of my text; and this was exactly what eventually occurred. But such a strategy would obviously fail unless I could also somehow induce hair-trigger activist groups to maintain silence about my article rather than crudely demonizing it. Therefore, I decided to launch what I considered a decapitating first strike against those central organs of Jewish activism but to do so in a rather oblique manner.

Jerome Karabel certainly ranked as the world’s foremost authority on Jewish admissions to the Ivy League, and his celebrated opus had been the central text I had used, although my ultimate conclusions were radically different than his own. It seemed likely to me that once Jewish organizations became aware of the controversial elements of my article, he would be among the first individuals they contacted, both to seek his assessment of my analysis and perhaps also receive suggestions for an effective rebuttal.

Therefore, I obtained Karabel’s contact information and sent him an advance copy of my completed article weeks before it was generally released, explaining that I thought he would find it rather interesting although some of my conclusions were quite different than his own. My expectation was that once he carefully read my detailed analysis, he would conclude that the case I made was far too strong to be effectively refuted, and he would pass along that verdict to the activist organizations when they eventually contacted him, thus leading them adopt a response of “strategic silence” in order to avoid drawing attention to my claims. For whatever reason, that was exactly how they reacted, and no prominent Jewish activist or group ever issued a public response to my extremely controversial findings despite the considerable attention these ultimately attracted.

Not only did this complete absence of organized attacks provide a green light for the very favorable mainstream coverage I soon began receiving, but it even opened the door to quite friendly treatment from numerous members of the organized Jewish community itself, as they discovered and read my article without any prior negative preconceptions. Most of these discussions focused directly upon the evidence of the sharp recent decline in Jewish academic ability and the resulting Jewish over-representation at elite universities, with a professor of Talmud Studies at Yeshiva University publishing a thousand-word column entitled “Endangered Jewish Genius” and NYU’s Berman Jewish Policy Center featuring my article on its website. Even the Israeli press took notice, with a columnist for Israel Hayom, Sheldon Adelson’s top-circulation newpaper, devoting a 1500 word column to my analysis, focusing especially upon my claims of Jewish over-representation.

But although prominent Jewish activists maintained their strict blockade against any discussion of my findings, the Jewish community has never lacked for extreme zealots, and some of these did eventually launch ferocious attacks on my work. However, these were fringe figures, so they were very slow off the mark in their responses and lacked significant credibility or media support. Therefore, their complaints had little impact, especially because they were largely self-refuting.

My fiercest academic critic was a certain cancer researcher named Janet Mertz, a fanatic feminist whose previous public efforts had been focused on vilifying and refuting former Harvard president Larry Summers for his mild but impolitic suggestion that perhaps men might be a bit better at math than women, a position she regarded as utter anathema. To that end, she had published a 10,000 word peer-reviewed analysis of decades worth of International Math Olympiad participants, which convincingly demonstrated that across almost every time period and country, roughly 95% of the best mathematicians had been male and only 5% female. But she rather bizarrely claimed that this conclusively proved that males and females had exactly equal mathematical aptitude, and then persuaded Science Daily and other gullible media outlets to publish headlined news stories touting her powerful debunking of male chauvinist mythology.

Mertz was equally zealous in her Jewish identitarianism, and she had invested enormous effort in exhaustively determining the exact fractional Jewish ancestry of all of America’s recent Math Olympians. As a consequence, she fiercely denounced as mere “guesswork” my own estimates of Jewish numbers, based as they were upon a much more casual inspection of surnames, supplemented by Weyl analysis. I think my response was quite effective.

As it happens, she and her co-authors had exhaustively researched the ethnicity of the 1988-2007 American Math Olympians in their aforementioned 2008 article, and through a combination of extensive biographical research and confidential personal interviews had determined the exact number of full-Jews and part-Jews among those 120 individuals, publishing the results in their Table 7 mentioned above, together with the broader racial categories.

Given that I had produced my own ethnic estimates for those same students based on perhaps five minutes of cursory surname analysis, while Mertz and her associates seemingly devoted five weeks of research to the same task, I readily acknowledge that her results are certain to be vastly more accurate than my own. Indeed, if we regard the Mertz figures as the “gold standard,” then comparing them with my own numbers provides a useful means of assessing the overall quality of my direct inspection technique, a technique that constituted a central pillar of my entire study. This allows us to decide whether my approach was indeed just the worthless “guesswork” that she alleges.

Her peer-reviewed journal article determined that the 120 American Math Olympians from 1988-2007 consisted of exactly 42 Asians, 26 Jews, and 52 non-Jewish whites. My crude surname estimate had been 44 Asians, 23 Jews, and 53 non-Jewish whites. Individual readers must decide for themselves whether these estimation errors seem so enormous as to totally invalidate my overall conclusions, but personally I would be quite satisfied if they remained in this range across the tens of thousands of surnames I had inspected throughout the rest of my paper.

Obviously, such estimation techniques may be completely incorrect for tiny handfuls of names, and should only be relied upon across substantial lists. For example, in one sentence of my 30,000 word article I stated that just 2 of the 78 names of Olympiad winners since 2000 seemed likely to be Jewish, and Mertz has repeatedly attacked me for this claim, now pointing out that I had missed the Hebrew name of winner “Oaz Nir.” She is correct, and since Nir was a double winner in 2000 and 2001, this single surname error on my part accounts for virtually the entire discrepancy between my own 1988-2007 Olympiad results and those produced by the exhaustive research undertaken by Mertz and her three academic co-authors.

The only reason that I or anyone else even became aware of Mertz’s harsh critique of my analysis was the heavy promotion she received by Andrew Gelman, a professor of Statistics at Columbia University and a prominent blogger, who thereby apparently hoped to undercut my findings without directly involving himself and thereby risking his own reputation. But once I informed him of some of her previous scholarly claims regarding gender issues, he seemed to abandon the project.

A close Mertz ally was a much younger woman named Nurit Baytch, whom I actually encountered in person. As I was giving my lecture at the University of Chicago Law School, I couldn’t help but notice a rather short young woman sitting in the front row, glaring at me with a glassy-eyed stare. I am hardly a clothes-horse, but she was dressed very strangely, and when she afterward came up to “confront me,” her mannerisms and style of speaking were quite odd as well. All in all, her appearance much reminded me of the photos of female Weather Underground terrorists of the late 1960s, most of whom had also come from a Jewish background.

Eventually, Ms. Baytch wrote a massive document purportedly refuting my Meritocracy analysis, and since it was never published anywhere, she posted it on the Internet as a GoogleDocs file, which countless Jewish activists have subsequently cited as a conclusive debunking of my claims. But all her tens of thousands of words of complex verbiage cannot get around the simple fact that only about 6% of America’s high-performing NMS students are Jewish and the remaining 94% are Gentile.

Her other line of criticism was to denounce my use of the Hillel numbers for Jewish enrollment, which she claimed were completely fraudulent, though without any evidence buttressing her claim. Although for decades, these Hillel figures had been accepted without reservation by all our leading media outlets and academic researchers, I had actually treated them with some caution, perhaps being the first analyst to do so.

Similarly, nearly all our figures on Jewish enrollment were ultimately drawn from the estimates of Hillel, the national Jewish campus organization, and these are obviously approximate. However, the Hillel data is the best we possess for recent decades, and is regularly used by the New York Times and other prominent media outlets, while also serving as the basis for much of Karabel’s award-winning scholarship. Furthermore, so long as any latent bias in the data remained relatively constant, we could still correctly analyze changes over time.

Completely discarding as unreliable the tens of thousands of annual Jewish enrollment estimates compiled by Hillel over the last half-century would completely eliminate almost everything we know about the historical size and trajectory of the Jewish presence at thousands of American colleges, destroying the sociological studies of many scholars. But fortunately, it seems quite unlikely that the figures are as completely nonsensical as Baytch casually claims.

These Hillel estimates have been very widely circulated within the Jewish community for decades and republished in Jewish magazines, being primarily intended to help guide strongly-identified Jewish families in selecting a college campus with a Jewish enrollment in the range they considered necessary. For most families, the cost of a college education is one of the largest investments they will ever make, and if for decades, tens or hundreds of thousands of committed Jewish families had picked their colleges based on the Hillel numbers only to discover that those figures had no connection to reality, surely there would have been a huge and angry backlash. But there is no record of any such complaints.

For many years, Harvard Hillel had regularly claimed that half or more of all the white undergraduates on the campus came from a Jewish background, and if this figure were wildly inaccurate, surely someone at Harvard Hillel would have eventually noticed that error and corrected it, with the same being true for Yale, Columbia, Penn, and numerous other colleges. Obviously, the criteria used to classify a student as Jewish are somewhat elastic, and we can easily suppose that the estimate generally includes part-Jews who in any way identified with that community, and may have been been somewhat exaggerated due to ethnic boosterism. But it seems highly unlikely that the figures would be utterly and demonstrably false.

These arguments based on general plausibility are strongly supported by quantitative evidence, and ironically enough, it is Baytch herself who provided it. Around the time she produced her lengthy and unpublished document, Harvard Hillel was claiming a Jewish undergraduate enrollment of 25%, and near the beginning of her text, she claimed that figure was obviously false by citing a Harvard Crimson survey indicating that only 9.5% of the Class of 2017 were Jewish. However, she failed to notice that the survey referred to being religiously Jewish, which is entirely different than being Jewish in the broader ethnic or ancestral sense, especially since Jews are among the most secular population in American society and a full 42% of the Harvard students described their religious beliefs as atheist, agnostic, or “other.” Indeed, a worldwide survey finds that only 38% of (ethnic) Jews follow the Jewish religion. So if the Crimson survey were correct and Harvard Jews were typical in their religiosity, this would imply that 9.5% / 0.38 = 25%(!!!) of Harvard freshman were ethnically Jewish, exactly the figure claimed by Harvard Hillel. Fanatic ideologues such as Baytch sometimes have a tendency to score game-ending own-goals without even realizing what they have done.

 

In general, classifying an individual as Jewish has a rather protean nature, with somewhat overlapping definitions based on religion, ethnicity, and full or partial ancestry, allowing it to be drastically expanded or contracted for various reasons. I suspect that Baytch’s confusion on this matter was entirely sincere, related to the obsessive tendencies she exhibited in real life. But others may employ these shifting definitions based upon more pragmatic considerations.

It is well known that for many decades the American Communist Party and especially its top leadership was overwhelmingly Jewish, even at a time when Jews were just 3% of the national population. But Jewish community leaders were not pleased with this situation, and they sometimes flatly denied the reality, insisting that there were actually no Jewish Communists whatsoever—how could there be, when Communists were hostile to all religious belief?

Similarly, my findings that Jews were apparently enrolled at Harvard and other elite colleges at a rate some 1,000% greater than white Gentiles of similar academic performance must surely have set off alarm bells within the leadership of Jewish activist organizations, who wondered how best to manage or conceal this potentially dangerous information. With a high-profile Asian discrimination lawsuit wending its way through the courts and my own unsuccessful 2016 attempt to run a slate of candidates for the Board of Harvard Overseers, the likelihood of growing public scrutiny surely loomed very large.

Baytch’s apparent confusion between having Jewish ancestry and practicing the Jewish religion would have been well-known in these circles, and offered an obvious solution. If Jewish numbers were suddenly narrowed to only include those students who claimed to follow Jewish religious practices, the flagrant over-representation of Jews on elite campuses would be greatly reduced. Meanwhile, large numbers of lesser-qualified applicants of Jewish ancestry but no religious belief could continue to gain unfair admission by writing essays about their “Holocaust grandmas” with America’s 98% Gentile population being none the wiser.

For whatever reason, Hillel seems to have recently adopted this practice, drastically reducing its published estimates of the Jewish enrollment at Harvard and other elite colleges, thus eliminating a glaring example of ethnic bias by a simple act of redefinition. For example, the Hillel website now claims that merely 11% of Harvard undergraduates are Jewish, a huge reduction from the previous 25% figure, and a total suspiciously close to the Crimson survey of a few years ago which counted Jews only based upon their religious beliefs. The Hillel figures for Yale, Princeton, and most other elite colleges have experienced equally sudden and huge declines.

One very strong clue regarding this new definition of Jewish enrollment comes from Caltech, an elite science and engineering school which is quite unlikely to attract Jews professing religious faith. According to the Hillel website, the Jewish enrollment is 0%, claiming that there absolutely no Jews on campus. Despite this, the website also describes the vibrant Jewish life at Caltech, with Caltech Jews involved in all sorts of local activities and projects. This absurd paradox is obviously due to the distinction between individuals who are Jewish by religion and those who are Jewish by ancestry.

As the 1999 media firestorm engulfing Princeton demonstrated, in the past even slight and gentle declines of Jewish enrollment over a fifteen year period would provoke massive controversy and angry denunciations from Jewish organizations. The absolute lack of any organized response to the recent sudden disappearance of nearly 60% of Harvard’s Jews certainly suggests that little more than a mere change in definition had occurred.

 

Many years ago as a young and naive undergraduate, I would usually spend my dinners discussing all sorts of political and policy issues with my fellow classmates in our Harvard dining hall.

Affirmative Action was a regular topic of our conversations, and I would occasionally note how odd America was in that regard. No other example came to mind in which an ethnic group had established a legalized system of racial discrimination against its own members, while similar sorts of systems aimed at excluding or disadvantaging rival ethnic groups were all too common in world history.

As the decades went by, I gradually noticed that the huge and continuing increase in the enrollment of non-white and foreign students at our most elite universities had caused a complete collapse in the enrollment of white American Gentiles, but oddly enough, no similar reduction in Jewish numbers. It was well-known that Jewish activists had been the primary force behind the establishment of Affirmative Action and related policies in college admissions, and I began to wonder about their true motivation, whether conscious or unconscious.

Had the goal been the stated one, of providing educational opportunities to previously excluded groups? Or had that merely been the excuse used to advance a policy that eliminated the majority of white Gentiles, their primary ethnic competitors? With the Jewish population numbering merely 2%, there was an obvious limit as to how many elite college slots they themselves could possibly fill, but if enough other groups were also brought in, then Gentile numbers could easily be reduced to low levels, despite the fact that they constituted the bulk of the national population.

Asians represented an interesting test-case. As their numbers rapidly grew, white Gentiles were consequently pushed out, and this process was celebrated across the academic community. But by the late 1980s, Asian numbers had increased to such an extent that they inevitably began to impinge upon elite Jewish enrollment as well and future increases would surely worsen the situation. And at that point, the process suddenly halted, with Asian numbers being sharply reduced and thereafter permanently capped. The implications of this situation were already in the back of my mind when I published my 1998 Wall Street Journal column describing some of these striking racial facts.

The current high-profile trial in Boston is widely portrayed by the media as a conflict between Asian-American groups, whose educational interests suffer under the current subjective and opaque admissions system, and black and Hispanic groups, whose numbers might be sharply reduced under some proposed changes. Whites are largely portrayed as bystanders, with Harvard indicating that their numbers would scarcely shift even under drastic changes in admissions policy. But the term “white” encompasses both Jews and Gentiles, and thus may conceal more than it reveals.

The implications of my 2012 Meritocracy analysis are certainly well-known to all of the prominent participants and observers in the ongoing legal battle, but the fearsome power of the ADL and its media allies ensures that certain important aspects of the current situation are never subjected to widespread public discussion. Asian advocates rightly denounce the unfairness of the current elite academic admissions system, but remain absolutely mute about which American group actually controls the institutions involved.

Throughout the enormous media controversy surrounding the Harvard trial in Boston, all sides are doing their utmost to avoid noticing the 2% elephant in the room. And that fact provides the best proof of the tremendous size and power of that elephant in today’s American society.

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  1. Big Bill says:

    Thanks, Ron. I appreciate it.

  2. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Maybe the best solution is to guarantee fixed percentages of admission for blacks(of slave ancestry), American Indians, and ‘Hispanics’(of non-Conquistador ancestry) regardless of the outcome of the lawsuit.

    So, for example, blacks are assured 13%, American Indians 8%, and Meso-Americans 1o%.

    For the remaining 69%, it has to be pure meritocracy.

    That way, we don’t have to worry about blacks and browns being hurt by the outcome of the lawsuit. As for whites, Jews, and Asians, they duke it out on basis of academic meritocracy and nothing else.

  3. CalDre says:

    Haven’t quite finished yet, but excellent, brave and long overdue.

    I am surely taking a big leap out on the limb when I predict that this study will gain exactly zero traction in the MSM.

  4. Excellent analysis, especially the decision to dig into the very top end of academic results at the Intel Talent Search, Olympiad, etc. level. The selection for those competitions remains extremely rigorous and merit-focused, and is a great unbiased for top talents in various sectors.

    I’ve found that the most damning chart you’ve ever made – Asian enrollment % vs. Asians age 18-21, https://www.unzcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/AsianEnrollmentTrends.jpg, was always significantly denounced by observers as “statistical nonsense” because the right axis used total # of Asians 18-21, rather than Asian % of total population 18-21. Steelmanning this argument better would lead to much stronger results when showing that chart.

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  5. Ron:

    You were right then and you are right now. However, there is some good data all over the net that show that upwards of over 75% of all upper tier administrators at Ivy League schools are Jewish. I can’t believe this doesn’t have a bias for Jewish students. I’m wondering if the law suit by the Asian students will bring this out. How can they claim that with a population of around 3 percent of the USA that they—the Jews haven’t rigged the Ivy League for their own gain.

    As far as diversity goes it’s nothing more than another Jewish Scam. At Harvard and other Ivy League schools I understand Jews have separate dining areas. The truth is that Jews stay with Jews, blacks stay with blacks, Asians hang with Asians and so forth. So much for diversity with each group having organizations at the colleges that represent them except for the few true white kids there because that would be Hitleresque. Most of these students do not interact with other students especially the Asians and that’s another strike against them.

    I have little faith in the Justice system. Here’s a blowjob article by two economists. At least one of them went to Harvard. You must keep shining the apple…………http://www2.philly.com/philly/opinion/commentary/harvard-admission-asian-american-students-federal-court-boston-affirmative-action-20181018.html These folks filed an amicus brief in support of Harvard challenging the statistics of the Asian group. The article is totally bullshit. If I were the Asian group I would hire Dr. Nassim Taleb to do the analysis. I would love to see these economists go up against him in a court of law.

    • Replies: @the grand wazoo
    , @Anon
  6. utu says:

    Two points:

    (1) I think you definitively should consider removing the paragraph about Holocaust and Jews being the largest per capita mass murderers. Making these kind of pronouncements does not belong to this article. I am sure of it! You do not have enough divisions to conduct the war on all fronts. More importantly there are soldiers who will fight for you on this particular front but will desert or even turn against you if you try to deploy them on the others fronts.

    (2) I think, Jacques Steinberg’s take about the unqualified recruitment officers is a red herring. They are qualified enough to produce the desired outcome. One had to dig deeper to find the real mechanism behind the 1000% Jewish overrepresentation. I would no look for answers on this from Jordan Peterson.

  7. Da Wei says:

    Mr. Unz, you say:

    “… given the considerable evidence that the Holocaust is substantially fraudulent, or even almost entirely so, merely a hoax promoted by heavily Jewish Hollywood, perhaps partially intended to conceal the inescapable reality that in per capita terms Jews worldwide were surely the greatest mass-murderers of the twentieth century.”

    I say: On behalf of all of us past and present recipients of White Boy Scholarships (e.g. a job in a liquor store), I thank you for your intelligent resourcefulness and courage in exposing this insidious alternative reality we have lived with. It’s inspiring to hear such a straight talker as yourself.

    • Agree: Carroll Price
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  8. Roberto says:

    The high tech establishment of “Silicon Valley ” like business in the US, with their need to compete on an international basis, cannot consider the absurd reference of “Ivy league” as genuine consideration, while Asian math ability is an indispensable at every level.

    • Replies: @Cassandra
  9. Bruno says:

    « I suspect that the combined effect of these separate pressures, rather than any planned or intentional bias, is the primary cause of the striking enrollment statistics that we have examined above. In effect, somewhat dim and over-worked admissions officers, generally possessing weak quantitative skills, have been tasked by their academic superiors and media monitors with the twin ideological goals of enrolling Jews and enrolling non-whites, with any major failures risking harsh charges of either “anti-Semitism” or “racism.” But by inescapable logic maximizing the number of Jews and non-whites implies minimizing the number of non-Jewish whites. »

    —-> that is where it’s possible to factor in Kevin MacDonald hypothesis. Jewish to gain protection from white ethnic interest contrasted to their financial success have a good strategy of promoting diversity (black and Latinos) hiding their own bigger promotion. The squashing of whites then is an intended effect as much as the promotion of computed and not a collateral damage.

    The experience of Jewish with Assyrian, babylone, Egypt, Persian, Macedonian, Greek, Roman, Europe in the Middle Ages and in Islam, Poland-Lithuania and Ottoman Empire seems to indicate that there is a pattern.

  10. anon[455] • Disclaimer says:

    As Karabel repeatedly demonstrates, the major changes in admissions policy which later followed were usually determined by factors of raw political power and the balance of contending forces rather than any idealistic considerations
    enormous bias in favor of Jewish applicants to our most elite colleges manifests itself is not entirely clear

    This excellent presentation of information suggest to me that our nation needs to homogenize its lifetime opportunities. Learning is a biological process, education is a bureaucracy. Propaganda differentiated academics is not the same as proof of performance on national examinations. Differentiating and handicapping opportunity by controlling access to prestigious universities is not good for the country.

    Qualify for credentials by examination independent of educational attainment. Examinations are already the requirement for licenses to practice engineering, construction, law, accounting etc. but once again access is controlled because a subject matter related degree is required to take the examinations.

    Thank you for this wonderful paper.

  11. What percentage of the Asian students (especially the Chinese ones) are from abroad? By “from abroad,” I mean students who (1) are not citizens of the US, (2) are recent immigrants who have become US citizens, or (3) have lived more or less their entire lives abroad but through hook or crook have managed to get ahold of US passports in advance (often at a very young age; we all know how it’s done) and then be imported into the US just in time for their American university experience (after which they often return home)? There are around 1.4 billion people in China alone, and they come from a mindless, brutally test-centric culture, so it should not be surprising that out of such a large pool of people obsessively doing test drills and college-prep courses throughout their youth because they are being forced to do so by parents and schools, each year a sample of academically high-scoring Asian students that greatly outnumbers the US-derived academically high-scoring students can be derived. This, however, doesn’t say as much about Asian intelligence as many seem to assume. Have any of you actually had experience dealing with students, or just people from the general population, in China? They’re semi-autistic retards who can’t put one foot in front of the other without someone telling them how to do it. We are importing many smart people from China (a tiny fraction of ability out of a huge ocean of shit), but we are also importing a lot of idiots who are just well-trained test-takers, who will not contribute intellectually to research or the society, and who have no loyalty to the US whatsoever — all at the expense of genuinely intelligent students who are actually capable of doing things with their lives other than choosing A, B, C, or D. We are hurting ourselves and strengthening China (a place that is devoid of empathy, common sense, and basic decency) at the same time just so that universities can rake in more money. It’s madness!

  12. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    One pic is worth 10,000 words and that first graph says a lot. The group that raises the most hell about discrimination–usually accusing us white guys–are the ones who practice wholesale discrimination at the elite universities, using their ethnic networking to ensure that Jews get admitted while probably more deserving and smarter Asians get kicked to the curb.

    I’m sure the ADL will mount a vigorous campaign against this defamation, just as soon as the Sun starts rising in the West.

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  13. OMG says:

    Dear Ron,

    Great piece as always.

    Under ‘ The Myth of American Meritocracy’ I posted the following comment:

    “@Ron,

    The bias does not (yet) appear so blatant in the UK or in Australia. But it truly is rife in the USA.

    My colleague (MD, PhD) attended Harvard as a post-doc. All of his ’superiors’ were Jewish. He did well and was quite friendly with the Department head, who is Jewish. His Unit head (also Jewish) was hopeless and known to be so, so my friend, essentially, carried the Unit for a time.

    The Department head, despite their friendship, advised my friend not to apply for tenure since he would never achieve a Chair as he was not Jewish.

    When I repeated this fact to a colleague (Jewish) I was blackballed as an anti-Semite, even in Australia.”

    This comment makes the very important point that it is not just (or even) undergraduate entry that is under attack but, more importantly, senior tenured positions. Such an approach guarantees continuity.

    Until this tribal loyalty is exposed, it will continue and increase.

    Thank you for your attempts to break this takeover and corruption.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  14. I’m unable to judge the USA situation.
    But the figures in
    Ismar Schorsch, ‘Jewish Reactions to German Anti-Semitism, 1870 – 1914′, New York 1972
    speak for themselves.
    Heavy jewish overrepresentation in intellectual jobs, some three % compared here and there to fifty.
    At the same time, the book confirms the old saying ‘nobody can defend his own case’.

  15. Anonymous[738] • Disclaimer says:

    Another amazing article. Bravo!

    But the term “white” encompasses both Jews and Gentiles, and thus may conceal more than it reveals.

    The implications of my 2012 Meritocracy analysis are certainly well-known to all of the prominent participants and observers in the ongoing legal battle, but the fearsome power of the ADL and its media allies ensures that certain important aspects of the current situation are never subjected to widespread public discussion. Asian advocates rightly denounce the unfairness of the current elite academic admissions system, but remain mute about which American group actually controls the institutions involved.

    Throughout the enormous media controversy surrounding the Harvard trial in Boston, all sides are doing their utmost to avoid noticing the 2% elephant in the room. And that fact provides the best proof of the tremendous size and power of that elephant in today’s American society.

    Thankfully, the goyim are finally waking up to the fact that “white privilege” is the Tribe’s smokescreen for Jewish privilege which is much more hostile, sociopathic and dangerous than we could have imagined.

    • Agree: mark green
  16. Heros says:

    How Jews Cheated on the SAT and Infiltrated the Ivy League Schools

    “(((Kaplan))) came up with a simple but ingenious way to subvert the system. After each class graduated from Kaplan’s school and took the test, he would invite them back to celebrate with hot dogs and root beer; admission to the party was gained by having each student tell Kaplan one question he remembered from taking the test. The net result of Kaplan’s parties was a list of the questions that his students would face when taking the SATs.

    If Kaplan tutored five classes of fifty students in one year, at the end of that year he had 250 questions By the time Kaplan sold his test-prep business to the Washington Post company in the ‘70s, for $50 million he had over 30 years experience in gathering questions, which meant he could tell his students with increasing accuracy the answers to those questions as well.

    Jewish scores on the SATs rose accordingly, as did Jewish admission to the prestigious colleges that had established quotas to keep them out in the early 20th century.”

    Was There Cheating on the August 2018 SAT?

    “Shortly after the conclusion of the August 2018 SAT, rumors started to circulate that there was a problem with the test that gave some students an unfair advantage.

    The basic gist of the complaint is that the test given on August 25 in the United States was actually the same exact exam that had been given internationally in October 2017.

    For its part, College Board hasn’t come out and acknowledged whether or not the tests were duplicates, but did state that it is taking “quality control steps” to make sure cheating hasn’t occurred.”

    Exam Cheating on Long Island Hardly a Secret

    “The suspected test takers came from prominent, respected families, some of them in financial distress — among the five facing felony charges were the sons of a well-known lawyer, the president of the local library board and a wealthy philanthropic family.

    The youths who are accused of paying them as much as $3,600 to take SAT and ACT tests were largely undistinguished students willing to cut corners to strengthen their modest résumés.

    People briefed on the investigation said that (((Samuel Eshaghoff))), a 2010 Great Neck North graduate, scored in the 2,100 range (out of 2,400) on his own SATs; he is accused of taking tests for at least 15 people over three years, and the people briefed on the inquiry said he obtained scores for them between 2,170 and 2,220 on the SAT and as high as 33 out of 36 on the ACT.”

    Just as jews daily ignore laws about crimes against humanity in Occupied Palestine, so do jews routinely cheat in all aspects of academics. All aspects, whether it be through using the twin JP’s (jewish power and jewish privilege) to force schools to accept their pet jewish students, to cheating on admissions tests, to famous jews like Einstein who plagarized gentile research and accomplishments after they get out.

    • Replies: @j2
    , @Anon
    , @Kratoklastes
  17. m___ says:

    A lesson, retracing and commenting “under the hood” of a process. A great achievement. Expensive and worth it!

  18. Tyrion 2 says:

    Your thumb is on the scale at every opportunity.

    You want high numbers so you use partial Jewish ancestry or ties of matrimony as with Provosts.

    You want low nunbers, you perform an analysis designed to get those fitting only the strictest definition of Jews, as you do with NUMS.

    When this isn’t enough you simply made an ad hoc and utterly absurd set of jumps. As when you take the number of Jews found by a poll looking at religion and triple it.

    You use sources without methodology when it suits you but refuse to use the same source when it doesn’t. As with Hillel, when you allege some sort of tremendous conspiracy against you as an individual!

    Your work was utterly discredited when the same Weyl analysis was applied to Harvard undergrads by the lady Nurit who you so ungallantly describe. I suppose her crime was to expose your work for being as sloppy as it is.

  19. Heros says:

    Another aspect of this elite university admissions fraud is the cost of all these womyn studies, equality, diversity and other departments. All these useless departments not only provide payrolls for hundreds of JP vetted shabboz and other tamudists in each department in each school, they are one of the prime reasons an elite university degrees have become so expensive.

    Like the hidden kosher taxes on most foods that we eat, this kosher education tax is highly planned and very deliberate. The power gained through this level of patronage is immense and it further allows JP to achieve strong leverage and often complete control in all levels of University life.

    But the most insidious is the deliberate inflation in school costs that serves several purposes:

    - It makes that elite degree only affordable to the ultra-rich, the effective majority of whom are jewish.
    - It allows the exertion of JP to all others through scholarships which are used to exclude non-kosher candidates.
    - It allows “charitable” tax free jewish organizations to extract a jew tax on rich jews that is free of all US taxes. These scholarships will again disproportionately made available to “oppressed” jews. These funds are collected and used many different ways, some of which are antifa riots and caravans of soros puppets.
    - It causes goy families to expend their wealth at a higher rate, thereby making them more dependent on JP for handouts.
    - Often goy families borrow (((Fed))) created money from jewish banks against their houses, land or other family wealth to finance their child’s ridiculously expensive degree. Aside from the usual issues of usury, any kind of financial shock, instigated by jews or not, leads automatically to many of the most valuable of these goy owned assets falling into the hands of jewish money lenders at fire sale prices.
    - Millenial students themselves have to take out government guaranteed loans from jewish banks in order to get a degree from a bloated leftist elite university.
    - The reality of these debts, incurred through jewish banks, but guaranteed by uncle cheese, is that the students and graduates will have an inherent slant against capitalism and for big government. A a slant created and exploited by cultural marxists.
    - The biggest (((reward))) for the tribe at the end of this process is highly indoctrinated communist debt slaves, dependent on government for their subsidy, who will automatically prefer any leftist political candidate promising debt relief on these loans.

  20. Anonymous[738] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Lol! What a silly creature you are, Tyrone the second.

  21. SafeNow says:

    The aptitude metrics are galling, but most galling for me is that a “personality”-based disadvantage is applied to two kinds of students who tend to be — get ready for it — decent. A personality-based bonus is given to two groups who are — and Hillary would approve here — far less civil. Jimmy Stewart says in Harvey that, to be a success in life, you have to be bright, or pleasant. It appears that, to get into Harvard, you must be bright, or UNpleasant. I think part of this personality bonus might derive from what psychologists call identification with the aggressor. In any event, all appears to be lost, because, as one teacher gloated, “we have your children.”

    • Replies: @anon
  22. alexander says:

    Good stuff, Mr. Unz.

    I wish you would take some time to do an in depth study on the growth and causes of our
    titanic national debt.

    With a particular emphasis on the contrast between two different epochs. 1776-2000 and 2001-2018.

    I cite these two epochs because 1)our government was operating at a fiscal surplus in 2000 ..and 2) overspending, since 2001, has been so extraordinarily high (800 billion per year)it may represent the greatest threat to US national security our nation has ever faced.

    It is also worthy to note that our governments astronomic “overspending”( since 2000), is the most taboo subject of both the mainstream media and the mainstream press.

    We have overspent $16,000,000,000,000.00 in a mere 18 years, and not one peep from the media.

    Why not ?

    If you consider , too, that our entire national debt has more than quadrupled in just 17 years,(just to imagine it would make Ben Franklins’ heart flutter) while our GDP has merely doubled in the same time period, it may be well worth your time and effort to explore the reasons why.

    It also may be worth your time to explore the implications for our future.

    People do have different economic theories, but I have always been partial to the Debt/ GDP ratio as
    a reasonable indicator of the fiscal health of a nation.

    For example, had the quadrupling of US debt (over the last 17 years) been accompanied by a quadrupling of our overall GDP(during the same time period), one could argue that our enormous federal overspending produced phenomenal economic growth and was, therefore , justified.

    This, however, did not happen.

    Our debt to GDP ratio is currently 21.6 T debt/ 20.5 T GDP…..not 21.6 T debt/ 40 T GDP

    The question is what did happen ……and, perhaps more importantly ,where did all the money go ?

  23. j2 says:
    @Heros

    Interesting comment.

    The data from the article allows estimating the American Jewish IQ. If there are 5.2 million Jews and 197 million non-Hispanic Whites and 6% of the winners in a contest selecting 0.5% are Jews, 65-70% non-Jewish non-Hispanic Whites, then 5.2/197=0.0264 of the white population are Jews while 6/73.5=0.08163 over the 0.5% limit Whites are Jews. If for non-Jewish Whites the limit is 0.5%, then for Jews it is 1.546%. For non-Jewish Whites the limit is 3.3 SD=149.5 IQ points, while for Jews it is 2.95 SD=144.25 IQ points. The average IQ of American Jews is thus 105.25 IQ points. Though it is the same as for East-Asians, it is also accountable by environmental factors, but also by factors you mention in your comment. If the Jewish population should include partial-Jews, the average goes to 102, which is my best estimate.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  24. Ron Unz says:
    @Lost in Harvard

    I’ve found that the most damning chart you’ve ever made – Asian enrollment % vs. Asians age 18-21, https://www.unzcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/AsianEnrollmentTrends.jpg, was always significantly denounced by observers as “statistical nonsense” because the right axis used total # of Asians 18-21, rather than Asian % of total population 18-21. Steelmanning this argument better would lead to much stronger results when showing that chart.

    That’s interesting—I don’t recall anyone ever raising that criticism around the time my article appeared, and it’s certainly incorrect.

    During the period in question, the Black+Hispanic enrollment at Harvard and the most of the other Ivies experienced only relatively small changes, so the underlying demographic to consider would be the population of White+Asians aged 18-21. And as I stated in my New York Times column:

    But these same years brought a huge increase in America’s college-age Asian population, which roughly doubled between 1992 and 2011, while non-Hispanic white numbers remained almost unchanged.

    Therefore, plotting the number of Asian students would be essentially same as plotting their share of the White+Asian group. I strongly suspect that the issue, like so many others, was simply raised by those attempting to throw up as much smoke as possible.

    Incidentally, I should have mentioned that for years my website provides very convenient access to the official NCES dataset of demographic trends over the last 35 years at all American colleges:

    http://www.unz.com/enrollments/

  25. Anonymous[738] • Disclaimer says:

    We should also remember that Jewish intellectual performance tends to be quite skewed, being exceptionally strong in the verbal subcomponent, much lower in math, and completely mediocre in visuospatial ability; thus, a completely verbal-oriented test such as Wordsum would actually tend to exaggerate Jewish IQ.

    To say the least. A group that’s vastly overrepresented in terms of higher education attendance will be exposed to a much wider vocabulary in their day-to-day activities and inevitably score higher.

    But that’s not IQ.

    Let’s just say that I wouldn’t be surprised if this particular mechanism was abused to juice the Jewish IQ numbers in the US – as measured by the Jews in the US. Meanwhile – the land of the chosen – Israel – seems to be scoring around 94-95 IQ.

  26. dearieme says:

    By God you’re a brave bugger, Mr Unz. Or should that be “by g-d”?

    It may be asking a lot, but has anyone published an analysis of the gentile whites who are admitted? I’m guessing that they are not mainly the children of tractor-drivers from the Midwest, but who are they? Would such an analysis reveal yet more strata of bias? Is it turtles all the way down?

    • Replies: @Hans
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    , @FKA Max
  27. utu says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Tyrion 2, If counting Jews is so hard and nobody seems to agree on the result do you think making Jews wearing the yellow star would solve the problem? Would you want to be a part of the solution?

    • LOL: Wade
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  28. @Josh Barnes

    “There are around 1.4 billion people in China alone, and they come from a mindless, brutally test-centric culture”?

    Far from mindlessness, their focus on the University Entrance Examination, the gaokao, and the Civil Service Examination, the guokao, are born of their commitment to meritocracy and their horror of inherited privilege dating back to 100 BC. Clearly, it works.

    And as for their being ‘semi-autistic retards who can’t put one foot in front of the other without someone telling them how to do it,’ they smart enough to have overtaken us is science and technology and, sometime between 2020-2025 every Chinese will have a home, a job, plenty of food, education, safe streets, health and old age care. 

    On that day there will be more suicides and more homeless, poor, hungry and imprisoned people in America than in China.

    To drive the point home, by then 450,000,000 urban Chinese will have more net worth and disposable income than the average American, their mothers and infants will be less likely to die in childbirth, their children will graduate from high school three years ahead of–and outlive–American kids.

    How dumb can they be?

  29. Anonymous[738] • Disclaimer says:
    @j2

    You can’t extrapolate IQ from that data. Winning a contest like that would be strongly influenced by a lot of non-IQ factors (money, time, tutoring, culture etc.). As an example: the data in the article certainly suggests that the children of fresh immigrants study harder on average.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @j2
  30. anon[297] • Disclaimer says:

    Among other things, I focused upon the publicly available statewide lists of National Merit Semifinalists (NMS), a group that constituted the highest-performing one-half percent of American high school seniors. By a fortunate coincidence, this fraction of the American student body was reasonably close in size to the total enrollment of students at the Ivy League schools together with similarly elite schools such as Stanford, Caltech, and MIT.

    i noticed this from reading your work too

    unless for some reason many Jews don’t participate in the National Merit program, there is no way to explain their extreme overrepresentation in the Ivy League etc

    from your numbers Jews seem to achieve at 3x but are represented in admissions at 10x or higher while whites achieve about at par but are underrepresented as much as 4x

    • Replies: @Marty T
  31. Hans says:
    @dearieme

    Mr. Unz, Prof. Robert Faurisson has passed away. The brilliant and witty giant of “Holocaust” Revisionsim – http://carolynyeager.net/sad-shocking-news-our-beloved-robert-faurisson-died-today

    A Most Honorable Man – Anthony Lawson’s tribute to Prof. Faurisson – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abRiqpeQyY0&bpctr=1540214290

    Lawson’s excellent Were the Germans Really So Stupid – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uJEE3thwmk

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  32. @utu

    (1) I think you definitively should consider removing the paragraph about Holocaust and Jews being the largest per capita mass murderers. Making these kind of pronouncements does not belong to this article.

    I was just about to write this myself, it enormously reduces the potential audience for this article and makes it easy for critics to dismiss it. I wouldn’t send it to anyone I know, and anyone citing it risks a huge backlash.

    • Replies: @dearieme
  33. anon[297] • Disclaimer says:

    i crunched the numbers for 2014 and they looked something like this:

    Enrollment per year (numbers from 2014) – extrapolated actual jew or white numbers from the percentages in the chart:

    Brown – 1560………..(374 jews – 343 whites) (should have been 94 – 1014)
    Columbia – 1390……(348 jews – 208 whites) (should have been 83 – 904)
    Cornell – 3190……….(734 jews – 766 whites) (should have been 191 – 2074)
    Dartmouth – 1110….(122 jews – 466 whites) (should have been 67 – 721)
    Harvard – 1660………(432 jews – 299 whites) (should have been 100 – 1079)
    Penn – 2420…………..(653 jews – 411 whites) (should have been 145 – 1573)
    Princeton – 1308…….(170 jews – 484 whites) (should have been 78 – 850)
    Yale – 1360…………….(354 jews – 272 whites) (should have been 82 – 884)
    ================================================================================
    (13,998)

    totals (actual estimated 3187 jews – 3249 whites) (should have been 840 – 9099)

    • Replies: @utu
  34. utu says:
    @Anonymous

    You can’t extrapolate IQ from that data. Winning a contest like that would be strongly influenced by a lot of non-IQ factors (money, time, tutoring, culture etc.).

    Are you one of those who think that money, time, tutoring, culture etc. do not influence IQ test scores? Have you heard of heritability? Why do you think it is 50-60%? Because the remainder, i.e., 50%-40% of IQ variance is caused by environment.

  35. DanFromCT says:
    @Josh Barnes

    Our next door neighbors decades ago were Chinese, the father an engineer working at IBM. Their children went to a Chinese-only school every Saturday during the school year to learn how to do well on tests—so their kids told ours. I wonder if little Jewish kids are being prepped in the same way at their weekend Hebrew schools while white kids, if anything, go to a bible study class to have unrequited fairness drilled into their heads.

    Visit the professors’ offices at a top college some weekday, and see if you can work your way five feet past the hostile Chinese kids doing their homework encamped on the hallway floor, awaiting their chance to demand extra help and other unmerited preferment in every course they take.

    • Replies: @JosephB
    , @Anon
  36. AaronB says:

    Ron has indicated that whites are about 70% of high ability people in the US – and they are likely more, since their scores are likely depressed by weak motivation (which brings me to my point).

    The problem as ever seems to be weak white motivation – I include Jewish capture of administrative posts under this heading, as it never could have happened unless whites had little willpower to resist.

    And weak white admissions relative to Asians is clearly the result of weak motivation and less effort, as Ron makes clear that it isn’t ability.

    One may ask why should whites try hard, that this is s poor quality of life, that if there were no Asians in this country whites could settle comfortably into a relaxed culture after 500 years of intense effort.

    However, that would merely externalize the competition. An America full of relaxed whites who dont try very hard would be at a disadvantage vs a China of extreme strivers, even if much happier and with a much better quality of life in the short term.

    In a globalised world, where distances have shrunk, you can’t avoid the competition. China discovered this in the 19th century.

    This is an extremely regrettable and unfortunate state of affairs that there must be a solution for – if one part of the world is in an unhappy striving stage, how to prevent it from ruining life for everyone else without becoming unappy strivers like them.

    It’s perfectly understandable that Asians have low self-esteem and need to prove themselves after the regrettable events of the 19th century which the West must take responsibility for – but how does one contain this without letting it spoil life for everyone.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
    , @renfro
    , @bomag
  37. j2 says:
    @Anonymous

    Sorry, I made a mistake in the decimal point. For non-Jewish Whites 0.5% is 138.5 IQ points and for Jews it is 132.4 IQ points if all test winners belong to the 5.2 million. The difference is 6 points. However, as Jewish test winners can be partially Jewish, we have to use 8-10 million as the Jewish population. Using 9 million, the Jewish IQ is 135.7. Thus, the difference is 2.8 IQ points. It is much smaller than is often claimed.

    You cannot calculate the genetically determined IQ, but you can calculate the IQ that the tests will measure, which is naturally influenced by environmental factors. I think the difference is mainly environmental and partially a result of selection. Anyway, 2.8 points in average should not matter. There are larger differences in Europe and they change in time.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  38. Anon[253] • Disclaimer says:

    Pretty damning data. No wonder the US is so F–d up. Sorry to have to agree and point out that the situation is much worse than you know or believe. So Jews get special treatment to get into so called Elite Colleges and the rest of course is History. The Jewish Administrators of such Institutions keep it rolling and things compound themselves. Now since Jewish Blood so to speak is the secrete handshake for the Law, Business and Science the world gets turned on its head or inside out or (What ever clever phase Fred Reed could come up with to describe this Cluster #–k). As someone who spent his entire life in Academics in Biology and Medicine there is now doubt about Jewish preference for selection. No Gentiles wanted here. But the problem for the United States is that Co-option of your society by a Tribal Group does not get things done. In my personal experience most Jewish scientists in Biology and Medicine are not the brightest and best, just the most funded and published. This of course interferes with the discovery of “New Knowledge” which requires some level of Genius. No wonder there has been so little truly new and creative advances in so many areas but lots of “me too” and rediscovery or this or that. Yep, its a sick culture (Jewish) and slick as well. Nonetheless the current situation is leading humanity to an existential crisis never before seen in history. Savage and pointless Wars, Inequality, Political Non-functionality all for the sake of a Minority who need to go back to wandering in the Desert before they destroy the Planet.

  39. Anonymous[738] • Disclaimer says:
    @j2

    You cannot calculate the genetically determined IQ, but you can calculate the IQ that the tests will measure

    A school science competition is not an IQ test. Not even close.

    Also: IQ is IQ.

    • Replies: @Anon
  40. anon[203] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    Ron has indicated that whites are about 70% of high ability people in the US – and they are likely more, since their scores are likely depressed by weak motivation (which brings me to my point).

    The problem as ever seems to be weak white motivation – I include Jewish capture of administrative posts under this heading, as it never could have happened unless whites had little willpower to resist.

    what do you base this speculation on, Aaron?

    It’s perfectly understandable that Asians have low self-esteem and need to prove themselves after the regrettable events of the 19th century which the West must take responsibility for…

    narrow it down

    who exactly in the West must take responsibility? (for flooding China with opium?)

    i think one of the culprits has established a “center for the understanding of anti-semitism”, lol

  41. anon[203] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    It’s perfectly understandable that Asians have low self-esteem and need to prove themselves….

    to who?

    • Replies: @AaronB
  42. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Heros

    All the test prep courses do that. I doubt Kaplan invented it. They have people who take the test again and again. Their job is to memorize 5 questions. Each professional test taker is assigned a section, 1-10 10-20. They write them down as soon as the test is over

    The BAR Nurse, Oracle MD and other certification exams can’t be taken over and over once a person’s passed. So the test prep people recruit people who’ve failed the exams.

    They take the exams several times more memorizing some questions and making sure to fail the test so they can give questions to the prep course people.

    Hate to sound like another ancient codger, but back in the good old days, we were told studying for the SATs was useless. There were no test prep courses I don’t remember any essay.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  43. AaronB says:
    @anon

    To themselves and to white people. To the world basically.

    It will eventually pass.

    • Replies: @anon
  44. NadFromTC says:

    Look at that sore loser, complaining that Chinese children study too much through the weekends, and then adding that they request help and “unmerited preferment”. Get a grip, men, there’s like 20 screens showing that they are hard working and screwed by the system.

    The same goes for the moron that repeats, under every post, that Kaplan helps students cheat. Kaplan is open to anyone. You didn’t take Kaplan classes, because you were work-shy. You thought going to college requires sports abilities, but that didn’t work for med school, did it? Kaplan cost is less that what your parents could have saved by buying a smaller car or a smaller house. Chinese and Indian parents chose to educate their children, while yours chose to live in a slightly larger pigsty, at an age that left you with no memories. The complaint is about things that money and work can’t get to someone who does the work, and does not apply to you.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
  45. annamaria says:
    @Anon

    Do you want to have your child treated in an emergency room by a “guarantee fixed percentages of admission” kind?

    The article is about the highly aggressive “2%” that have been enthusiastic supporters for the “guarantee fixed percentages of admission” but only for the non-competitive minorities. And don’t forget, the “2%” do not have any Jewish students at Caltech anymore.

    Either there is a meritocracy — the blind admission of the best and brightest to the leading universities — or the country will continue getting drown in the marasm of untouchable topics established by the holo-biz “survivors.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  46. @Tyrion 2

    Project much, Dindu?

    (((They))) want high numbers so (((they))) use partial Jewish ancestry or ties of matrimony.

    (((They))) want low nunbers, (((they))) perform an analysis designed to get those fitting only the strictest definition of Jews.

    When this isn’t enough (((they))) simply make an ad hoc and utterly absurd set of jumps. As when (((they)))take the number of Jews found by a poll looking at religion and triple it.

    (((They))) use sources without methodology when it suits (((them))) but refuse to use the same source when it doesn’t.

    FIFY.

  47. @utu

    Totally agree with you both points.

    On point (1), I agree with Ron’s statements, my own prior research concurs with his recent articles on the subject, but it’s a tactical error to include them in this article. It brings in an unrelated and contentious point that will be used to discredit Ron’s excellent analysis of the numbers.

    On point (2), I personally suspect the unqualified people are there as “fall guys”, to enable the blatant rigging of the system to be blamed on a systemic failure when uncovered.

    Ron, thank you for continuing to shine the light of truth on things that must be revealed, and please take good care of your personal security.

  48. Elliot says:

    Very impressive and robust analysis. I always wondered how long it would take non-Jewish whites to realize they were underrepresented at these school, not because of preferential treatment to blacks and browns, but from preferential treatment to white Jewish students.

    It was pretty easy to see non-Jewish whites as severely underrepresented and Jewish whites being severely overrepresented if you ever visted hillel.org. There, you can get the overall Jewish percentage in a university. If you subtract that percentage from the overall white %, you would easily see that whites are actually a tiny minority in all Ivies, as stated in this article…even though there are more high performing “gentile” white students than Jewish students in every state.

    There are SOME differences, though. I do believe non-Jewish whites care less about elite universities.

    But yes, let’s focus on Affirmative Action and black/Hispanic students, even though their percentages in elite universities are still negligible despite their preferential treatment. And honestly, “elite” blacks and Hispanics will never wield the amount of power their Jewish classmates will.

  49. Relative to the article here, I’m an uneducated slob, but an observant slob. Since the appointment of Harvard’s 1st Jewish president there has been a noticeable rise in Jewish professors and students at the honored institutions. Basically speaking they are out of control.
    The target of the tribes has always been Christian whites, and it appears they are having some success keeping us down on the farm, so to speak. Well, speaking to my brainwashed brethren ,what are we going to do about this? This is a very serious matter. As a very high percentage of Harvard, and Yale students end up in positions with direct control over our lives.
    , our very lives depend on reversing this trend. If the tribes are a race, which I don’t believe they are, they should be reigned in under affirmative action rules and allowed 2% of everything. Not the 100% they always want.
    It’s war I tell you, it’s war.

    • Replies: @HallParvey
    , @Druid
  50. @dearieme

    I wish I could remember the source – I cannot- of an informal study I read in the past four or five years that did precisely what you suggest. The result that most struck me was that indicators of traditional merit, e.g., becoming an Eagle Scout, winning 4H awards, participation in religious groups, the YMCA/YWCA, the NRA, significantly reduced a student’s chances of admission to elite colleges and universities. It was as if admissions officers used these to construct a “Clinton Index of Deplorability”. There really is a war against the native-born, White, Christian, traditionalist population in this country.

  51. @utu

    (1) I think you definitively should consider removing the paragraph about Holocaust and Jews being the largest per capita mass murderers. Making these kind of pronouncements does not belong to this article. I am sure of it! You do not have enough divisions to conduct the war on all fronts. More importantly there are soldiers who will fight for you on this particular front but will desert or even turn against you if you try to deploy them on the others fronts.

    I agree 100%. I host the regional alumni gathering for an Ivy at my home each year, and I found the article fascinating. It’s a bit hard to argue that someone isn’t pulling strings when the statistics are laid out clearly, as Mr. Unz has done.

    It’s frustrating to me that a few “AIPAC baiting” sentences (which incidentally add nothing to the analysis) have made it impossible for me to share the article with other people. This article could easily be front page news and start a national conversation. Instead, it will be read by a few thousand intrepid souls, and never come to the attention of a broader audience. I will read Mr. Unz with great interest, but I can’t very well share many of his articles which is exasperating!

    The pernicious sin in preaching to the choir is not that it is unnecessary; it’s the size of the audience…

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Ron Unz
    , @Anonymous
  52. Thank you for all the thought and effort you put into the analysis of issues like these. Mr. Unz. If the country – once nation – that once was the USA is ever to recover from its continuing malaise and decline it will be due to new cadres awoked and inspired by the work of you and others like you.

  53. @Anon

    That memorizing business sounds ridiculous. What, in reality was going to stop a whole paper being taken out of the exam room, if necessary by writing on cuffs, skin or scraps of paper?

    • Replies: @Anon
  54. Anonymous[738] • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria

    Absolutely agree (except that 0% at Caltech is clearly a lie). The Tribe is using token minorities to mask their own, massive, hyper-nepotism. There’s no room for East Asians and Whites in the planned JWO.

    And that’s academia – which was supposed to be highly regulated and 100% meritocratic. What’s happening in other goyim-management nodes (banking, law, politics, MSM, entertainment etc.) is even worse.

  55. Ron Unz says:
    @A Bit Sandy

    It’s frustrating to me that a few “AIPAC baiting” sentences (which incidentally add nothing to the analysis) have made it impossible for me to share the article with other people. This article could easily be front page news and start a national conversation.

    That’s a reasonable attitude, but based on experience I tend to disagree.

    Bear in mind, that virtually all my analysis in this article and the bulk of the text was merely excerpted from my original 2012 Meritocracy article, which I discussed at the beginning. And despite all the great endorsements it received from very prominent figures, it didn’t exactly reach the front news pages or spark a national conversation. In fact, it sounds like you only just now discovered it, or at least the very significant Jewish aspects of my analysis.

    So if you want to share essentially the same findings, but provided in a maximally inoffensive and rather more polished package, you can just give them copies of that original article, or the various others I published over the years in the WSJ, the NYT, and NR, plus my numerous follow-up columns:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/

    http://www.unz.com/runz/new-york-times-asian-american-quotas-in-the-ivy-league-2/

    http://www.unz.com/runz/some-minorities-are-more-minor-than-others/

    http://www.unz.com/runz/bakk76067/

    http://www.unz.com/author/ron-unz/topic/meritocracy/

    Among other things, the Meritocracy article is so long, it’s often much more convenient to read in a PDF format, which is also made available.

    Anyway, good luck with your efforts, and thanks for your kind words.

  56. Albion says:

    Most of these Asian students are the children of China’s elite being dump on our universities. I attended the UW and it was, and still is, swamped with international students. The purpose of our universities should be to educate the people we already have here, you know, citizens!

    China is our chief rival in the 21st century, and allowing Chinese students to take over our elite universities is madness. Jewish nepotism needs to be dealt with, but flooding Harvard with Asians isn’t the way to go about it.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @DB Cooper
    , @Kratoklastes
  57. jaichind says:

    Hi. Ron. Really love your work. I guess my questions are:

    1) Are you using the same methodology to estimate Jewish composition for NMS and for estimating the Jewish composition for Harvard students
    2) Are you taking into account that Harvard has something like 10% international students that does not participate in MMS. Are you normalizing that population out when it comes to comparison between NMS and Harvard populations.

    I totally suspect you are right but addressing 1) and 2) will beat most if not all criticisms of your methods.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  58. Ron Unz says:
    @A Bit Sandy

    Incidentally, I might add that if you’re seeking a “safe and respectable” reference, you can just explain that the NYT itself described my Meritocracy article as a central factor behind the current Harvard lawsuit, and actually provided a direct link.

    Furthermore, David Brooks of the NYT had ranked it as possibly the best magazine article of 2012, and that top editor at The Economist said the same thing.

    Those would seem about as safe and respectable a set of reference as could be imagined, and I provided numerous other linked MSM accolades as well near the top of my current article:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/13/us/harvard-affirmative-action-asian-students.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/25/opinion/brooks-the-2012-sidney-awards-i.html

  59. @the grand wazoo

    Once upon a time these Universities were places where the sons of the rich went to study the art of running things.
    Then they began to allow women into their hallowed halls. These women were there largely hunting for Mr. Right. Not really caring who won the Trojan War or any of that other historical nonsense. Much more important was what to wear to the Spring Dance, and just Who might be there.

    More recently, due to the efforts of a certain tribe that is, like Voldamort, unmentionable, the women who make up a majority of the students at major universities, and minor, might be there to avoid the responsibilities of mommy-hood.
    After all, changing dirty diapers is much less appealing than dancing into the wee hours, followed by a thrilling tryst with Handsome Jack.

    Then of course, there are the un-chosen. As a result of these evolutionary changes, the halls of learning have replaced the nunnery as a safe place for the un-chosen. Those females who, through no fault of their own, are among the unselected during that time of mating that is now, and has always been, a part of every ones life. The ones who are unlucky in the search for Mr. Right.

    By the way, it’s okay to be one of the slobs. Better to know nothing than to have a head full of phoney claptrap.

  60. Anonymous[738] • Disclaimer says:
    @A Bit Sandy

    it will be read by a few thousand intrepid souls, and never come to the attention of a broader audience

    Share it anonymously.

    I have little doubt that this article will be shared, read and talked about much more widely than you’re suggesting. Most people are not afraid to share and discuss the “American Pravda” topics and those who are (understandably if their careers or even freedom can be jeopardised) can always do it anonymously.

    The World is changing and the JQ Overton window has shifted dramatically lately. That’s why they’re trying to gag the Internet (it won’t save them).

  61. @niteranger

    Wherever you school or work, if a Jew is placed in a position with authority to influence hiring the Jew will hire more Jews. That’s the way it goes.

    • Replies: @Joe862
  62. FKA Max says: • Website
    @dearieme

    It may be asking a lot, but has anyone published an analysis of the gentile whites who are admitted? I’m guessing that they are not mainly the children of tractor-drivers from the Midwest, but who are they?

    Many of them are elite, Northeastern Catholics like Brett Kavanaugh, which is reflected in the composition of the current SCOTUS, which is predominately Catholic and Jewish and the justices are all mostly “feeder judges” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeder_judge recruited from either Harvard or Yale http://www.unz.com/article/judaism-as-a-group-evolutionary-strategy/#comment-2261642 . This adds insult to injury for WASPs:

    The Whites of the Harvard Class of 2019 are 9.5% Other, 18.7% Atheist, 19.9% Agnostic, 0.5% Mormon, 1.7% Muslim, 17.1% Jewish, 13.3% Protestant and 19.3% Catholic.

    Catholics are actually the biggest religious group at Harvard today, even before religious, but not ethnic, Jews.
    [...]
    Protestants are likely the most underrepresented group at the Ivy League, even though they founded it and still are about 50% of the U.S. population in 2018.

    This is what the Transformation of America and the American elite looks like…

    http://www.unz.com/announcement/has-the-adl-gone-into-hiding/#comment-2545855

    Yale student body composition by religious affiliation 2010s:

    [MORE]

    Source: http://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/#comment-2546081 and https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-religions-that-most-Ivy-League-students-practice Archived link: http://archive.is/OjWNr#selection-611.0-611.260

    This video perfectly illustrates, in my opinion, the systematic ethnic and cultural cleansing of the founding stock of the Ivy League from the Ivy League Mr. Unz describes in this article:

    Siskel & Ebert vs. the WASPs

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/siskel-ebert-on-wasps/ and http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-curley-effect-versus-the-kennedy-effect/#comment-1619098

    The Curley Effect Versus the Kennedy Effect

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-curley-effect-versus-the-kennedy-effect/ and http://www.unz.com/article/the-reality-of-red-subversion/#comment-1699584

    Early in World War I, a wounded British officer arrived in Boston to recruit citizens of the then-neutral United States to fight in the British army. He politely asked the by then legendary Irish mayor of Boston, James Michael Curley, for permission. Curley replied, ‘‘Go ahead Colonel. Take every damn one of them.’’ This statement captures Curley’s lifelong hostility to the AngloSaxons of Boston, whom he described as ‘‘a strange and stupid race,’’ and his clear wish that they just leave. Throughout his four terms, using a combination of aggressive redistribution and incendiary rhetoric, Curley tried to transform Boston from an integrated city of poor Irish and rich protestants into a Gaelic city on American shores.

  63. @Josh Barnes

    This isn’t really about Asians, is it? The unintended consequence of this lawsuit is far more important. It is shining the spotlight upon the criminal class, illuminating those who dedicate decades to the achieving their nefarious goals.

  64. I understand Utu’s objection (Oct 22, 6:11 a.m.) – “You do not have enough divisions to conduct the war on all fronts. More importantly there are soldiers who will fight for you on this particular front but will desert or even turn against you if you try to deploy them on the others fronts” – but I think Utu is wrong. Utu is wrong for this important reason: Without The Hoax no one can even begin to explain how so massive and systemic a discrimination could take place for so long without it being called out and resisted. The Hoax allows them to do the unjust things they do and at the same time to threaten into silence any of the rest of us who would dare object. So I would recommend, Mr. Unz, that you stick to your guns and leave that paragraph right where it is.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  65. anon[175] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    i’m white and they don’t need to prove themselves to me

    i’m not their judge

    • Replies: @AaronB
  66. Aside from the potential violations of Title VII, the parallel admission conduct of the Ivies also strongly implies an illegal anti-trust violation. This is another line of attack that someone should be looking into.

  67. anon[175] • Disclaimer says:
    @Albion

    The purpose of our universities should be to educate the people we already have here, you know, citizens!

    exactly, the educate children of the people who actually built the institutions

    instead what’s happening is they seem to think their mission is to educate anyone except…..

  68. @ A Bit Sandy (Oct 22, 5:12 pm) who says: “It’s frustrating to me that a few ‘AIPAC baiting’ sentences (which incidentally add nothing to the analysis) have made it impossible for me to share the article with other people. This article could easily be front page news and start a national conversation. Instead, it will be read by a few thousand intrepid souls, and never come to the attention of a broader audience. I will read Mr. Unz with great interest, but I can’t very well share many of his articles which is exasperating!”

    Mr. Unz could remove the paragraph in question and the link to Unz Review would still reveal articles (by Ron Unz and by many others) that the-people-you-want-to-share-with-but-can’t would almost certainly find objectionable for the same—and possibly many other related—reasons.

    At some point, A Bit Sandy, you should consider what many of us think to be the case: That dealing at long last honestly with the paragraph in question is a key to ending this kind of systemic discrimination and injustice perpetrated by the group in question.

  69. The massive unexamined variable in this analysis is the degree to which different groups care about elite academic credentials. If some groups care more than others and work harder to gain admission, that could explain a lot of the variation discussed here. Yet Ron spends very little time addressing this critical factor.

    I was a National Merit Finalist in one of the years Ron covers in his 2012 piece. I’m white and I grew up in a small town in a conservative Christian subculture. My parents are highly intelligent people (one was also a NMF), but they devoted no effort to the college application rat race and went to little-known state schools, where they got high grades and STEM degrees. No one in their immediate or extended families made any attempt to attend elite universities. Those places were barely on their radar screens.

    My (overwhelmingly white) subculture contained many highly intelligent people. Some of them actually did have top Ivy League credentials, but they discouraged their own children and others from applying to those schools, which they considered academically fraudulent (i.e. “Western Civ has got to go”), hedonistic, and anti-Christian.

    The result was that the Ivy League had virtually no pull on me when I was in high school. Academics came naturally but I didn’t care at all about my grades, and I got a few bad ones that I could have avoided with minimal effort. I spent a lot of time hanging out with my friends, working, and playing sports, but almost no time preparing for standardized tests or polishing my extracurricular resume. I didn’t know anyone who did a test prep program.

    In the end I did apply to Harvard and MIT on a whim my senior year, but I didn’t devote much time to the process and didn’t care when I got rejected. In any case, I had some mediocre grades that probably sunk me. I attended a respectable but non-Ivy school.

    After college I stumbled into the online “HBD-sphere”, where people discussed IQ and elite universities obsessively. I was also doing a white-collar job in a big city where I was exposed to credential obsession for the first time. It began to dawn on me that I’d totally missed the boat on something significant. I eventually polished my resume and got into Harvard and MIT for graduate school. But I doubt that would have happened in the pre-internet era.

    My anecdotal impressions have been that 1. there are a lot of conservative white gentiles like the younger me, and 2. that Jews tend to be the opposite- savvier about the pathways to success and influence, and more focused on getting there. I suspect that explains a lot of the disparity.

    • Replies: @FKA Max
    , @Anon
  70. @Josh Barnes

    “mindless, brutally test-centric culture(s)” may produce (though I’d doubt even that) rote-trained zombies at grade 4 or 5 level but it is difficult to imagine brilliant mathematicians and physicists being churned out by mindless systems. The tests (the math Olympiad et el) do not test rote-learning; they test problem solving abilities at very high levels. Your fear of “importing a lot of idiots from China” rests on foundations other than them being idiots. Me thinks it could be a fear of them per se, whether idiots or geniuses.

    That said, I can see where you are coming from and can empathize with your fears and concerns, though not with bad logic and incorrect facts. Gung-ho full-steam immigration policies of the past several decades had to produce societal frictions sooner or later as squabbles and fights broke out over slicing and sharing the pie. Don’t we see that happening in all spheres of life in the US? And won’t it increase further if the open borders crowd get to have their full way? Perhaps you need to worry more about the “As American as Apple Pie” idiots at home and the immigration policies that they advocate rather than idiots from overseas.

  71. Ron — I haven’t seen anywhere in your analysis where you address the extremely high inter-marriage rate of Jews. My understanding is that it’s been over 50% for many decades. Given this statistic, shouldn’t the percentage of Jewish ancestry in nominal “Jews” be getting massively watered down over the exact time period that you document a collapse in Jewish intellectual achievement?

    Also, while it doesn’t seem to be reflected in the demographic statistics, shouldn’t mass inter-marriage be increasing the number of nominal Jews? For example, non-Jewish spouses (especially women) frequently convert, making them new “Jews,” while the originally Jewish spouse will continue to count as a “Jew” even if he was always an atheist to begin with. Likewise, children from a mixed marriage with a Jewish father will take a Jewish surname while the children of a Jewish mother are considered Jewish by religious convention. Plus, membership in the Tribe undoubtedly has its benefits, so those with a choice will usually opt-in.

    In short, mass intermarriage seems calculated to massively increase the “Jewish” category while simultaneously watering down its original Jewishness (be it cultural or genetic). Doesn’t this have to play a significant role in your thesis?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  72. AaronB says:
    @anon

    But they feel you are. And they must satisfy their conscience.

    There is no way out for them. Asians must go through this phase until they get out on the other side, like whites did.

    The challenge for us is to contain them without returning to the hyper-competitive people we used to be but have grown out of.

  73. renfro says:
    @AaronB

    You are very close to being exactly right on the comfort factor.
    But it is changing.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  74. DB Cooper says:
    @Albion

    It they are foreign students then they are paying good tuition to attend these colleges, state or private. Their tuition are much higher than even out of state tuition. America is not loosing money on educating them. Rather it is quite the opposite.

  75. renfro says:

    An analysis of the data from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth found that Americans raised in the Episcopal Church actually exceeded Jews in mean IQ, while several other religious categories came quite close

    I always knew we Episcopalians were smarter than the Jews…..LOL.
    Thanks for confirming Unz.

  76. AaronB says:
    @renfro

    I do not think being an unhappy striver is an enviable state – it is generally the result of trauma and a penance one must undergo or a disease of the mind one must work through.

    Asians suffered this trauma, and right now have this disease. See the various Chinese commenters on this site to see just how unhappy and mentally unbalanced they are (Daniel Chieh, gmachine, Duke of Qin, Yan Shen, and others even worse).

    This is not where whites wish to return – not so long ago whites were similar, and Jews are now seemingly emerging from the disease as well.

    So what I’m interested in is some way to play the game without becoming just like them, to contain them without becoming like them.

    Its a challenge very few countries in history have managed, and certainly not the Chinese when the show was on the other foot.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  77. anon[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @DB Cooper

    It they are foreign students then they are paying good tuition to attend these colleges, state or private. Their tuition are much higher than even out of state tuition.

    true – i see estimates of 2-4x the rate of in-state tuition

    America is not loosing money on educating them. Rather it is quite the opposite.

    is America making money on them or just the universities?

    many of these universities were built with taxpayer monies and land grants etc so why are they educating foreigners instead of Americans? who gave them permission?
    it certainly wasn’t me

    do the benefits of the university making money on international students outweigh the opportunity losses suffered by American students?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  78. Derw says:

    exactly, the educate children of the people who actually built the institutions

    instead what’s happening is they seem to think their mission is to educate anyone except…..

  79. Anonymous[738] • Disclaimer says:
    @DB Cooper

    America is not loosing money on educating them. Rather it is quite the opposite.

    No one mentioned money so far.

    It’s not about money.

    The global (((debt))) Ponzi was unsustainable and un-repayable for a very, very long time.

    It’s about control. Can’t you figure it out?

    • Replies: @HallParvey
  80. We should also remember that Jewish intellectual performance tends to be quite skewed, being exceptionally strong in the verbal subcomponent, much lower in math, and completely mediocre in visuospatial ability; thus, a completely verbal-oriented test such as Wordsum would actually tend to exaggerate Jewish IQ.

    I don’t know if this is still the case, but back in the day (mid-1980′s) the National Merit Scholar Semifinalist cutoff was based on a weighted average that gave double-weight to the verbal section.

    The test was a shorter version of the SAT called the Pre-SAT (PSAT). The scores were on the same scale as the regular verbal and math SAT tests but were expressed for some reason as one-tenth of the equivalent regular SAT score. So if Person A scored a 75 on Math and 60 on Verbal that would equate to an overall SAT score of 1350 (750 Math + 600 Verbal). Likewise, if Person B had the inverse scored 60 on Math and 75 Verbal this would also equate to an overall SAT of 1350 (600 Math + 750 Verbal).

    However, for purposes of the National Merit competition rankings, the weighted score for Person A was 195 (75 + [2 x 60]), while the score for Person B was 210 (60 + [2 x 75]).

    I don’t if they still weight the test this way but, if anything, the NMS cutoff is already skewed in favor of the Jewish strong suit in verbal reasoning. By contrast, I don’t believe the elite colleges claim to give any more weight to one test over the other during the regular admission process. As a result, Jewish over-performance in college admissions compared to the NMS baseline is perhaps even more statistically significant.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  81. FKA Max says: • Website
    @A Simple Pseudonymic Handle

    What you describe is thematized in this excellent WSJ article:

    The Late, Great American WASP
    The old U.S. ruling class had plenty of problems. But are we really better off with a country run by the self-involved, over-schooled products of modern meritocracy?

    http://archive.is/GWmc3

    From a HBD perspective Jews and Northeast Asians (see my website link for this comment for details on this subject matter, i.e. “Ashkepathy”), in particular, are more competitive and more status-oriented than Whites:

    Asian Americans and materialism: Exploring the phenomenon and its why and when.
    [...]
    http://psycnet.apa.org/record/2018-24365-001

    https://www.unz.com/article/are-southpaws-really-sinister-increased-incidence-suggests-were-headed-for-mouse-utopia-collapse/#comment-2533946

    Mr. Unz, briefly, commented on this here:

    Actually, I don’t think that’s correct. The key factor is that over the last generation or two, it’s become *exceptionally* difficult for non-Jewish whites without some huge personal advantage to gain admission to Harvard. Therefore, from what I’ve heard here and there, fewer and fewer of them even bother applying.

    Asians have almost as difficult a time gaining admission, but since their families are so fanatic, they apply anyway.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/if-harvard-had-colorblind-admissions-its-black-share-would-fall-from-15-8-to-0-9/#comment-2577804

    [MORE]

    Cognitive Elite and the Jewish Eugenic Project Gilad ATZMON

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R62ywTRDs6U

    Source: https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-fifth-column-2/#comment-2499760

    Jews are much more likely than whites to suffer from schizophrenia [Scientists Discover Gene That Predisposes Ashkenazi Jews to Schizophrenia, By Ido Efrati, Haaretz, November 26, 2013]. The essence of schizophrenia is “hypermentalism”—being so acutely aware of the physical cues of mental states (such as facial expressions) that you read too much into them: a smile means he’s in love with me; a slight frown means he wants to kill me.

    https://www.unz.com/article/the-democratic-party-has-tipped-to-minorities-women-gays-expect-more-kavanaugh-type-hysteria-in-the-future/#p_1_12

    What about those at the pinnacle, did they need high IQ’s? No doubt, it took cunning to see good opportunities. But other personality factors besides intelligence could lead to fortune. One could even keep this with a psychological Darwinian orientation by suggesting that risk taking, or aggressiveness-both traits often claimed to have genetic bases-led to great profit.

    Source: http://archive.is/wfpNR#selection-10611.0-10647.62 and https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-fifth-column-2/#comment-2500299

  82. Anonymous[738] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Couldn’t have said it better myself.

  83. Anonymous[346] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    As a fan of the America Pravda series all I can say is I hope Ron is not tricked into visiting the Israeli consulate any time soon. I can just picture it, Abe Foxman with a bone saw in his hand, “No Mr. Unz, we have not gone into hiding.”

    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
  84. Vin says:

    It’s touched on here:

    https://telegra.ph/Protocols-8-05-29

    “It is well known to us that the supposed anti-white employment bias groaned about by conservative whites is not about skin colour, for the Ashkenazi is white as well, of the same basic phenotype and race as those he rules over. Rather, the empire’s employment policy is pro-Ashkenazi, as it should be. It is a universal truth that the conquerors and upper castes of countries reserve the ruling spots for themselves and limit the opportunities of those perceived as potential threats. It has never been otherwise in history. To struggle against this fact would be to join in the insanity of the conservative white. The task of the Aryan is not to oppose this selective process but to speed it along, for it is the increasing absence of slavish whites in the educational fields, and in the Ashkenazi’s society in general, that will ultimately harm the Jew.

    The varied peoples of the world who have begun to fill the previous white social and economic rôles in today’s West do not understand the Ashkenazi’s agenda. They have not had long experience with the Ashkenazi, as have we. They believe that the Ashkenazi’s calls for equality are specifically meant to act in their favour, not yet insightful enough to recognise that these calls are actually formulated to act in the Ashkenazi’s favour, which currently means the whites’ disfavour, and that they, as replacers of the whites, are in their new positions by default. These different peoples of the world, placed into their different professional positions for reasons they do not yet truly comprehend, already begin to show less concern for the Ashkenazi master than the biologically compromised white ever did. From United Nations mouthpieces down to elementary school teachers, these newcomers do not act in the service of any false universal altruism once they are established, but only for themselves and the advancement of their particular people. No groups worship the Ashkenazi in the same manner as the whites, and so their replacement is obviously desired by us.”

    And here:

    https://telegra.ph/Protocols-7-05-29

    [MORE]

    “After the Ashkenazi eliminated the indigenous educators in Russia during his revolution there, and in Germany, France, Italy, and the rest of Europe during his post-war revenge against our people, he placed his own selections in those positions of power which dealt with shaping the minds of our nations’ youth. The change in educational policy was catastrophic for our peoples. Its effects are seen everywhere today, from the ruined condition of our natural environments and national cultures to the psychological and morphological changes in the very phenotype of our following generations.

    In the Anglo-Saxon nations the changes made by the Jew have been different, as one would expect due to the different cultural environment they possess compared to our previous nationalistic states in Europe. Social and educational policy alterations have taken place in gradual fashion, stretched over a longer period of time. In Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the United States, and Great Britain, the Ashkenazi still purged his competitors with the same zeal and thoroughness as he did in our conquered Aryan lands, but he did it steadily and less violently. Whites were consistently eliminated from their professional positions and student university slots day by day, year after year. This has not abated. The available economic niches are shrinking for whites, and nothing will stop this process. Nothing can. It is to be expected. When met with no cultural resistance the Ashkenazi murders slowly by dozens of different methods that can never be called genocide unless viewed from a higher plateau and with a broader perspective, as if watching many generations of ants over a decade destroying competitors and transforming a landscape, bit by bit. The final result of an Ashkenazi victory is always the same, whether his elimination of rivals happens in an orgy of executions and imprisonments over a few years, or whether it takes place over three generations of culturally discriminatory hiring policies and legal proscriptions.

    Whites in Britain or Canada or the United States currently wring their hands and decry the ridiculously meager previous attempts by a handful of their ancestors to limit the Ashkenazi’s rôle in academia. Having been effectively exiled from their own institutions in just a matter of decades by the Ashkenazi invader, the slavish whites exhibit remorse over the feeble actions taken by their feeble grandparents to perhaps ensure them a future. They ascribe these meager attempts on their ancestors’ part to protect their legacy as “moral failings”.

    No other people on earth act this way, nor have they ever. The whites are suicidal and insane, and deserve to reap the deadly harvest they have sown. Their pathetic sociobiological defences have currently approached nil, and we do all we can to further speed up the progress of their cultural disenfranchisement and deterioration until, as a group, they are finally extinct.”

  85. Albion says:
    @DB Cooper

    And? They don’t belong here and our universities shouldn’t be treated as businesses. It’s unfortunate that so many Americans believe anything and everything to have a price tag and nothing is sacred.

    We’re a nation, not a global shopping mall.

  86. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    That’s how it’s done. I’ve known professional test takers and that’s exactly what they do. The test prep companies recruit professional test takers on college campuses American college towns have a lot of part time grad students and other hangers on who make a living writing term papers and taking tests

    I was recruited to be a professional test taker by other professional test takers. The test prep companies both advertise and do word of mouth recruiting.

    How hard is it to memorize 5 out of 130 questions, especially when you can make $70,000 a year doing it? They don’t just take the tests and memorize questions. They also teach the test prep classes. It’s a good job, much easier than being a public school teacher.

    It’s a very White male occupation because so many careers are closed to White men in this obscenity of a country ruled by minions of Satan.

    Every once in a while a fake Asian student story gets in the papers. A college teacher notices that the same person has taken the class several times under different names. It happens a lot more than gets in the news.

    [MORE]

    Sometimes when adding up credits the computer notices that a student took a transferable class at a community college the same quarter the student took another class at the same time at the university 100 miles away.

    I was always being asked to write term papers for money. I never did because I couldn’t bring myself to write the politically correct anti White racist marxist crapology the teachers demanded.

    I learned a lot when I worked at the
    University of a few Caucasians Lost among Asians.

    Here’s a professional test taker I was told about when I worked at the university hospital by a nurse with whom I became friendly.

    A professional test taker was a medical records clerk at Alhambra hospital and regularly took the registered nurse and licensed vocational nurse exams. Nursing students do the clinical part of their studies at hospitals. Most of her customers were students who did their clinical at Alhambra hospital and word of mouth all over the area.

    She was very intelligent and an excellent memorized. She never took a test prep course. She just bought the test prep books and memorized the questions and answers.

    She’s Mexican with a lot of Indian so she can pass for just about any kind of Hispanic Asian Phillipino. She used the Dr license and admission ticket of the woman she impersonated to gain admission.
    She charged $2,000 for RN $1,000 for LVN.

    She was often asked why she didn’t go to nursing school since she’d ace the academic part. Her husband made a lot of money. Nursing school is 4 hard years. She’d rather make $20, 000 a year cash taking tests for others.

    If the nursing board is using the fingerprint pad at the test centers she obviously can’t do it any more.

    Since you’re a chauvinist defensive Jew I’ll tell you that in high school, college and when I worked at the university I never noticed any Jews cheating

    My high school was about 30% Jews. We were all under pressure to get into prestige colleges. The Jews didn’t cheat or take the test prep courses. because there weren’t college admission test courses in the good old days

    In college the people who wrote papers for others and paid them weren’t Jews, just ordinary goyim of various religions and ethnicities. I was unaware of cheating on exams maybe my friends didn’t cheat on exams.

    Decades later at the University of a few
    Caucasians lost among Asians most of the cheating was done by Asians. Most of it was paying some one else to take a required crapology course.

    And why not? As the Asian guys said, “ “ if I want to read a Jane Austen book, I’ll read it, why waste a quarter reading it”

    There was a major scandal about the Bar exam. The wife was an attorney. Husband graduated and failed the exam first time. So she took the exam for him using his ticket of admission and Dr license. Their names were not androgynous but very sex specific something like Richard and Laura.

    The Bar exam is 3 6 hour exams held 3 consecutive days. So 3 times she presented a dr license and admission ticket with a mans picture and an obvious man’s name to take the exam..
    Plus there are breaks during the 6 hour exam and the dr license is again required to enter the exam room. 2 breaks during each exam plus morning entrance that means she presented the dr license with a man’s picture and name 9 times over 3 days and the proctors didn’t notice.

    Not only that, but she was 9 months pregnant and went directly from the last day of the exam to the hospital and had her baby later that night.

    The news was all aghast at how blind the proctors who admitted her were. Bring the cynic that I am, I assumed it was arranged in advance with a proctor who was very well paid.

    They were caught because he failed badly and she passed in the 90th percentile. What they didn’t know is that a red flag is raised when a test taker who previously failed gets a score more than a reasonable number of points more on the second try.

    The UCLA Chinese students told me that the Chinese language newspapers have ads for test prep courses that say passing guaranteed. That’s code for some kind of cheating. There was one way of cheating that involved glasses with a little radio bud. The answers were recited into the little ear bud

    Another involved the pencils they brought in. They needed magnifying glasses to see the code printed on the pencil. 89-C. means question 89 answer is C.

    That’s not Kaplan or any other honest test prep course. That’s ethnic Chinese and Chinese language only blatant cheating.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  87. @Anon

    Hopefully, you will never have to have your derriere examined by an affirmative action physician be she Jewish, Black or Hispanic. I wouldn’t want an unqualified doctor probing my behind without having the proper skill set to do so… damn the justice!

  88. @Anonymous

    A Jew isn’t an Arab. No matter how much they may be displeased with the author for exposing their shenanigans, Jews will not butcher a fellow Jew!

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  89. @Anonymous

    It’s a Ponzi scheme only if it’s private. When Government does it, it’s monetary easing or some other such acceptable nonsense explanation.

    It’s only counterfeit if some individual does it. Printing money is part of those powers reserved to the Federals.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  90. @DB Cooper

    So, then, why not keep that “much higher” tuition in China and build your own Harvard, Yale, etc.? The thing is, White Christian males built those wonderful institutions of higher education and now Tom (Jew), Dick (Chinese) and Harry (Indian) aong with LaKunta and Jose-Jesus wants to take it over, while kicking Jones and Smith to the curb. It oughtn’t be that way!

  91. @Ron Unz

    Thank you for your excellent article and for taking the time to provide the links in post 55 & 58. I’m reading “The Myth of American Meritocracy” with great interest. In rereading my post 51, I clearly came off as being critical, but in truth, I think your careful analysis, and excellent articles are tremendously important, and need to be shared as widely as possible.

    Henry D Thoreau once said “For every thousand hacking at the leaves of evil, there is one striking at the root.” I think you’re striking at the root of the puzzling ivy league admissions conundrum, our baffling foreign policy in the Middle East, social justice obsession, self destructive economic policy, and more. Your American Pravda series is a national treasure.

    Given the subject matter, it’s doubtless impossible to write an article that won’t “trigger” the social justice warrior set, but Trumps shocking 2016 victory provides compelling evidence that vast numbers of Americans intuitively sense that something is very wrong (without knowing what it is) and are searching for any explanation/solution they can get. I think you may be driving to the root of the problem, however uncomfortable that reality is to digest.

    Many thanks for your work, and the not inconsiderable risks you take in publishing these articles. I can appreciate how silly it is for an armchair quarterback like me to offer unsolicited opinions from the safety of a pseudonym, but I am at least sincere in what I say, and I have great hope that your work will be more broadly read.

    I think your American Pravda series is a national treasure BTW. Thanks!

  92. Ron Unz says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    I don’t if they still weight the test this way but, if anything, the NMS cutoff is already skewed in favor of the Jewish strong suit in verbal reasoning….As a result, Jewish over-performance in college admissions compared to the NMS baseline is perhaps even more statistically significant.

    That’s exactly correct, and I actually discussed that issue in my long 2012 Meritocracy article:

    Earlier we had noted that the tests used to select NMS semifinalists actually tilted substantially against Asian students by double-weighting verbal skills and excluding visuospatial ability, but in the case of Jews this same testing-bias has exactly the opposite impact. Jewish ability tends to be exceptionally strong in its verbal component and mediocre at best in the visuospatial,[57] so the NMS semifinalist selection methodology would seem ideally designed to absolutely maximize the number of high-scoring Jews compared to other whites or (especially) East Asians.

    I should emphasize that my Meritocracy article is far longer and more comprehensive this one, also containing 120 endnotes, many of them quite detailed. So those particularly interested in this subject, should probably read it, along with my series of follow-up columns.

  93. @Anon

    I have a better idea.

    How about giving fixed percentages to the old-stock groups who poured their blood, sweat, and tears into creating this country and endowing it with the greatest social infrastructure and social capital in world history (but often retarding their individual family success by pouring their efforts into creating a society they thought would be the exclusive property of their descendants).

    Old-stock groups include:
    1. Those American Indian tribes who have always lived north of the Rio Grande
    2. Black Americans (descendants of people held as slaves in the United States, not the Caribbean!)
    3. White Christian Americans (maybe separate quotas for Evangelicals, Liberal Protestants, Mormons, and Catholics to ensure Red State conservatives aren’t shut out completely, as they currently are).

    Groups that showed up after all the hard work of creating this society was done (Asians, Jews, Middle Easterners, Caribbeans, Latin Americans, Africans) can compete meritocratically for the remaining spots.

    Excess talent among the old-stock groups can compete for the meritocratic slots – old-stock quotas will be a floor below which old-stocks will not be allowed to fall, but never a ceiling that prevents them from rising.

    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
  94. Ron Unz says:
    @jaichind

    1) Are you using the same methodology to estimate Jewish composition for NMS and for estimating the Jewish composition for Harvard students
    2) Are you taking into account that Harvard has something like 10% international students that does not participate in MMS. Are you normalizing that population out when it comes to comparison between NMS and Harvard populations.

    (1) Unfortunately, Harvard class rosters are generally kept private, so key can’t be used for surname analysis, and I was forced to rely upon the historic Hillel estimates. I do recall digging up my own Harvard yearbook and my surname analysis seemed pretty consistent with the ethnic distribution estimates of that era.

    Another factor is that surname inspection analysis takes a considerable amount of time, and would need to be applied to hundreds of thousands of Ivy League names during the period in question.

    (2) Sure, I certainly took into account the International students. It’s all discussed in my Meritocracy article, and the several Quantitative Appendices.

    • Replies: @Anon
  95. Anonymous[738] • Disclaimer says:
    @HallParvey

    It’s still a Ponzi and it’s coming to an end.The time-frames are (very) different but the end result is the same.

  96. Jews have gamed Ivy League admissions to benefit themselves and screw others. Shocking racial supremacism and hatred. These Jews have no morals but are pretty good at making accusations against everyone else.
    Vermin. They will be expelled. Treason is punishable by death. Jews and traitors take note. The end of your devilry is nigh.

  97. @John Gruskos

    You included the Red man in your litany of who did what and who didn’t, is it because you stole the land from under him to build the great society and now want to make up for it by punishing others, who deserve better?

    • Replies: @John Gruskos
    , @Anon
  98. Erebus says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    Have you ever actually lived/worked in China as anything other than a journalist?

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  99. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @DB Cooper

    The universities make money. “America” doesn’t. American individuals lose money because their college places are taken by foreigners.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  100. JLK says:

    I was a NMS semifinalist in New Jersey back in the 1980s. As I recall, the selection score cutoff was different in each state to prevent students from high SES areas and states from dominating. In other words one needed a higher score in states like NY and NJ to qualify than in states like Alabama.

    This could somewhat discriminate against Jews.

    However, the discrepancies Mr. Unz points out are of a much higher magnitude than might be explained by such discrimination. An investigation is justified. I doubt we’ll see it from the mainstream press.

    I agree that the point of the article would be better served by eliminating the Holocaust references.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @annamaria
  101. Sean says:

    Jews with power over other peoples have behaved, if not worse, then no better than gentiles in the same position of dominance. But one has to wonder how Jews ever came to be in such positions– given that they are a tiny minority. An argument that Jews are not clever enough to justify their over-representation to the point of dominance over a 98 % gentile majority in the politically and economically key seats of learning is open to the objection, how could the Jews get to be dominant if they are not much cleverer in the way that counts for the organisation of society?

    Or had that merely been the excuse used to advance a policy that eliminated the majority of white Gentiles, their primary ethnic competitors? With the Jewish population numbering merely 2%, there was an obvious limit as to how many elite college slots they themselves could possibly fill, but if enough other groups were also brought in, then Gentile numbers could easily be reduced to low levels, despite the fact that they constituted the bulk of the national population.

    Could Jews do that do that with an advantage in IQ, even if it was far more than what that Lynn and Unz are crediting them with? While they are no doubt more cohesive, one person (Ron) seems to have hewing a quixotic way through the controversy virtually alone. There are a lot of gentiles with close to the IQ of Ron Unz yet none of them has got any traction with bringing anti gentile discrimination at Harvard to the public’s attention and one cannot imagine such a white gentile even trying to come to the front with such an issue.

    I dare say Peterson and Cochran are partially correct, and the the advantage that lets Jews master white gentile societies has something to do with IQ. However, it seems clear to me that Jews are inherently good at convincing by argumentation and winning people over to controversial viewpoints (new intellectual tastes and trends) far beyond what their IQ would suggest, and like anyone with a gift they enjoy doing what they are good at.

    • LOL: Ron Unz
    • Replies: @FKA Max
    , @Ron Unz
    , @annamaria
    , @anon
  102. Ron Unz says:
    @JLK

    In other words one needed a higher score in states like NY and NJ to qualify than in states like Alabama.

    This could somewhat discriminate against Jews.

    Yes, that’s an important issue that I analyze in my Meritocracy paper. However, it seems far more likely that the variable statewide thresholds sharply disadvantage Asians, and may actually benefit Jews to some extend.

    The main reason is that Asians are so overwhelmingly dominant in huge CA, which consequently has one of the highest thresholds. Therefore, if the NMS threshold were national, probably very large numbers of the non-NMS Asians in CA would qualify, squeezing out groups in lower-threshold states. Interestingly enough, it appears that a disproportionate number of the NMS Jews are qualifying in low-threshold states, and would be eliminated.

    That’s actually the main reason my Asian NMS percentage was given so imprecisely as 25-30%. The actual figure was about 26%, but given the extremely high CA threshold, a national NMS threshold would surely raise the Asian percentage considerably.

  103. Anonymous[101] • Disclaimer says:
    @OMG

    Ethnic and also ideological tribalism make it virtually impossible for large segments of the population to enter these elite institutions. Many would have little desire to surround themselves with the sort of people they would encounter at, say an Ivy League school anyway.

    The real issue is that being a part of these institutions provides an entryway to very real power. It will also create gatekeepers who’ll decide who has power in the future. The system effectively allows a small clique to legally exclude the vast majority of Americans from elite positions, by creating a monopoly on slots at a few schools. It allows elites to surround themselves with co-ethnics and handpicked ideological soulmates drawn from a microscopic section of the nations talent. It’s an incestous back scratching club. This is a serious problem.

  104. Ron Unz says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    I haven’t seen anywhere in your analysis where you address the extremely high inter-marriage rate of Jews. My understanding is that it’s been over 50% for many decades. Given this statistic, shouldn’t the percentage of Jewish ancestry in nominal “Jews” be getting massively watered down over the exact time period that you document a collapse in Jewish intellectual achievement?

    Actually, the very high Jewish intermarriage rate seems to be a considerable exaggeration, at least with regard to the first marriages that typically produce children. Kevin MacDonald discusses the issue at considerable length in one of his books:

    http://www.unz.com/book/kevin_macdonald__separation-and-its-discontents/#chapter-9-is-diaspora-judaism-ceasing-to-be-an-evolutionary

    Also, since intermarriage was fairly rare until the last few decades, the time-lag for any resulting children to be in H.S. or college probably means it had a relatively small impact on the huge Jewish performance declines I noted during that exact period. I think the other factors I suggested are much more likely to be responsible.

    And since Jewish intermarriages are apparently fairly gender-equal, surname analysis would tend to pick up roughly half of the half-Jews.

  105. dearieme says:
    @for-the-record

    I agree entirely, as follows.

    (1) The piece is already long; removal of an essentially extraneous paragraph would be a useful contribution to shortening it.

    (2) A reader might be persuaded by the argument about admissions without being persuaded by the arguments, or statements, about the holocaust, and about Marxist murders. Therefore confine each topic to a separate blog post.

    (3) The experiment has been performed: readers say that they can’t bring themselves to circulate links to the post while the offending paragraph is in place. If the purpose of the post is to persuade many people about bias in admissions it would therefore be best to delete the paragraph.

    • Replies: @Jim_T
  106. DB Cooper says:
    @Anon

    “The universities make money. “America” doesn’t. American individuals lose money because their college places are taken by foreigners.”

    If well-qualified foreigners are taken in then just increase the class size. The marginal cost of increasing the class size (hiring more TAs, professors) is nothing compared to the additional tuitions the university is bringing in. The question is not whether the college places taken by foreigners. The question is whether after graduation these foreign students are allowed to stay and work in America. If they do then they are displacing American workers. But this is a different question.

    • Replies: @Anon
  107. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    Hillel does a great job of outreach to jewish students . That’s why I’d trust their figures

    They might have a delicious generous servings free sabbath dinner every Friday. It’s a good deal for grad students and others who live off campus. Free movie night for the latest movies. There’s all sorts of free or very cheap excursions like rock concert tickets for $15.00 instead of $75. There are well paid part time jobs. And a chance to meet glamorous Israelis.

    Of course the best looking kids work at the Hillel tables in those join the clubs areas on campus

    Chabad even offers very inexpensive housing on some campuses although the Chabad lifestyle is required.

  108. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Da Wei

    I say: On behalf of all of us past and present recipients of White Boy Scholarships (e.g. a job in a liquor store), I thank you for your intelligent resourcefulness and courage in exposing this insidious alternative reality

    There’s no doubt lots of Jews died in WWII, and there were exterminations. Nazis were planning to wipe out tons of Slavs too.

    But I wonder how many Jews died from general warfare and how many died by targeted extermination. Jews who died in the war would have died like most non-Jewish victims. From bombs, explosions, and mayhem in general. Tons of Poles died in the war because they were caught between Germans and Soviets, like mice being caught between two elephants. I’m thinking many Jews died this way too. If bombs fell from the sky, surely they didn’t just kill Poles and other non-Jews but Jewish civilians as well. Consider all the French civilians killed by US bombardment of towns around Normandy to clear the way.
    These Jewish deaths would be war deaths, not the result of extermination campaign. But I think what happened is that ALL Jewish deaths in WWII were attributed to the Holocaust. Supposing there was a town where 15,000 Jews perished. If 5,000 died from war deaths, 5,000 Jews died from extermination, and 5,000 died from other factors caused by hardships, then the correct assessment would be 5,000 Jews of the town were victims of the Holocaust. But if Jewish scholarship considers ALL Jewish deaths in WWII as the result of the Holocaust, then we have to pretend that all 15,000 died as a result of extermination. But that would be misleading.

    Much of Europe, especially the lands between Germany and Russia, was the worst place to be in WWII. Jewish or Gentile, your chance of getting killed by violence was huge. And many Jews surely died like the gentile population: the general violence of war. So, if we don’t include every Jewish dead in WWII as the result of the Holocaust, then one might argue that 3 million died by extermination, and the remaining 2 to 3 million died by general violence of war that affected non-Jews as well.

    Speaking of overblown numbers, the casualty list for the Nanking Massacre is also suspect.

    • Replies: @anon
  109. @Reuben Kaspate

    White Americans stole nothing.

    We accepted land as weregild for our murdered frontier families in a series of peace treaties.

    Still, all the tribes whose ethnogenesis occurred in a given country have certain inalienable claims on the resources of that country – in the case of the territory of the United States, that includes the two large new tribes (White Americans, Black Americans) and the many smaller ancient tribes (American Indians).

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  110. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Why would you set aside 8% of admits for American Indians, given that they comprise ~1% of the U.S population?

    I don’t agree with your suggested percentages for the other racial/ethnic groups either, but the percentage for Amerinds seems especially out of line.

    From Wikipedia:

    “According to 2008 US Census projections, those who are Native American and Alaska Natives alone number 3.08 million of the total US population of 304 million, or 1.01 percent of the nation’s entire population.”

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  111. JosephB says:
    @DanFromCT

    I’m probably not in what you’d consider a top college: we’re ranked fiftysomething overall, with a strong STEM focus. So we punch above our weight in STEM disciplines and well below our weight in humanities, arts, and social sciences. I.e., we have a fair number of Chinese students. I’m not seeing a hostile Chinese population demanding extra help beyond what is normal. I’m known as a conservative, and have had conversations with folks who would have felt free to bring up this issue if they’d see it. We’re not seeing it.

  112. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reuben Kaspate

    English pioneers stole the land from the Indians and E European Jews who arrived 1880 to1925 stole the country from those who built the country including the Jews who arrived with the rest of the founding stock in the early 1600s.

    That’s such a Jewish arriviste comment.
    .
    You, whose family’s been in America 350 years have no right to be in America. But I, whose 8 great grandparents arrived in 1930 after the country was built have the right to rule the country.

    Like most descendants of the 1900 communist revolutionary Jews, you don’t know a thing about the history of American Jews. They’ve been here since the early 1600s. Some important towns, like Savannah were as much as 30% Jewish in the early days. Newport and the state of Rhode Island had big Jewish populations in colonial times.

    The colonial Jews were mostly Sephardic via the Netherlands Portugal England and the Caribbean Islands.
    Southern Jews did a lot of confederate financing of the civil war

    By 1750 German Jews began arriving with the German immigrants. The Lehman brothers arrived from Germany to New Orleans 1801 and soon became the 2nd biggest slave brokers in the country.

    By 1851 they were in San Francisco as bankers for the gold rush. They relocated to New York and became one of the biggest stock brokerages in the country. I believe Lehman saved the stock market from crashing at some point in the late 1800s by buying stocks to keep the prices up.

    There are some historical myths that really irritate me. One is that Black Irish thousands of survivors of the Spanish Armada stayed in Ireland and are responsible for every brunette Irish person.

    Another is that there were no Jews in America until 1880 when the poverty stricken wretched refuse survivors of the Cossack’s pogroms staggered onto Ellis Island and NYC where they encountered such discrimination, prejudice and anti Semitism they had no choice but to create the communist party to fulfill their Jewish obligation to reform America in their image

    For some reason the American Jews allowed themselves to disappear from history when the 1900s E European communist revolutionary Jews arrived.

    If the descendants of the British colonialists have no right to America, then the 1900 Jews have even less right to America. Go back to Russia.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Pheasant
  113. anon[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Like most descendants of the 1900 communist revolutionary Jews, you don’t know a thing about the history of American Jews. They’ve been here since the early 1600s. Some important towns, like Savannah were as much as 30% Jewish in the early days. Newport and the state of Rhode Island had big Jewish populations in colonial times.

    i think you’re right – i hear they were big in the slave industry

    Southern Jews did a lot of confederate financing of the civil war

    one even ran off with all the loot

    • LOL: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Anon
  114. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @DB Cooper

    You just corroborated my statement.
    “ The universities make money”

    Obviously you’ve never been to a hospital and or don’t work in STEM.

    I worked in a top 10 university with a medical school. You should see the classes, half women 40 % foreign Asian. Half men 40% foreign Asian. The other 20% half men half women was mostly Hispanics and blacks. Generally the American White percentage was tiny. Maybe 10 women, 3 men in a class of 300.

    All the foreign Asians planned to stay in America Many had been parachuted in for high school on tourist visas. Then accepted in college and med school.

    Stop posting about things of which you know nothing. It’s not 195o when foreign students were mostly Europeans, Mexicans and S Americans who went intended to and went right back home when they graduated

    It’s 2018 and the west and east coasts are being colonized by Chinese the way Texas was colonized by Spanish and the east coast was colonized by England.

    330 people in America. We have enough 120+ IQ native born citizens capable of becoming Drs

    Virtually every foreign and immigrant Asian med student plans to stay in this country . Which means fewer and fewer native citizen Drs

    Same with STEM. The companies prefer foreign Asians because their visas depend on the employer.

    Your argument that foreign students don’t take a place that should go to an American makes no sense at all. Colleges only admit a certain number of students each year. Every foreigner admitted means one less American admitted.

    • Replies: @Western
  115. anon[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Speaking of overblown numbers, the casualty list for the Nanking Massacre is also suspect.

    and why should i care any more for Jews than i do for the Chinese?

    as a white person in the U.S., the Chinese and other NE Asians generally have treated me well.

    and Jews? not so much

  116. @Erebus

    I live 55 miles from the border and have been visiting since 1967, but only to verify what I regard as the only useful measure of China’s development, stats. Anecdotes don’t cut it.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  117. To be fair, no one deserves anything. We all have to fight for what we get. The question, and problem, being why has the “white” race lost the will to fight? Just how intelligent and capable are the white gentiles who have let this “happen” to them?

  118. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reuben Kaspate

    Rabbi Chaim Michael Dov Weissmandel would beg to differ with you. So would Stalin’s Jewish executioners who executed Other Jews.

    The merit vs affirmative action debate’s been going on for 55 years. Affirmative action won. The Asian vs Harvard lawsuit just started. No matter who wins there will be appeals and appeals.

    If anti affirmative action wins, Harvard will do what the state of California colleges have done after the anti affirmative action referendum won and was upheld in the courts. They just made up different words for discriminating against Whites and Asians.

    Until the trial is over let’s wait and see.

  119. Jim_T says:
    @dearieme

    I am just going to come out and say this: I question Mr. Unz’s motives.

    He has made a very interesting analysis, and combines it with utterly irrelevant statements regarding Holocaust denial and Jewish mass murder. I can only think of two reasons you would do such a thing: You are somewhat autistic/Asperger’s, and you really do not understand the people you are trying to convince, or you are intentionally destroying your own argument to prevent any similar analysis from ever gaining traction. I naively would assume the former, but I certainly cannot rule out the latter.

    What this reminds me of is the movie “American History X”, in which Edward Norton’s character makes an entirely reasonable argument about black crime that is totally unrefuted by his mother’s boyfriend, who started the discussion. But at the end, he disrobes to reveal a swastika tattoo, informing the Jewish man that he is not welcome. The overall takeaway for the audience is that no matter how much sense he makes during his argument, he is the bad guy and everything he says must be wrong. I feel like Mr. Unz is doing that to himself. Is it intentional or accidental?

    Mr. Unz is at his best when dealing with numbers and primary sources. Dealing with secondary sources, he just seems to go off of who he thinks he can trust, and makes claims he would not necessarily make when doing primary source investigation. His 9/11 argument can, in my opinion, be boiled down to “well, bin Laden said he didn’t do it immediately afterwards, so it must have been the Jews!” These other articles do not play to his main strength, displayed here, and keep his arguments from being taken seriously by the mainstream community. Again, is that a feature or a bug?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @anon
    , @jack daniels
  120. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    What loot, confederate bonds?

    The Rhode Island ones were big in the slave trade but I didn’t want to upset the defensive chauvinist Jews who absolutely believe no Jew in the last 6,000 years ever did anything that was not the epitome of virtue and morality

  121. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Sean

    I think Peterson and Cochran mistaken Jewish chutzpah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeder_judge for intelligence.

    Jewish intellectual ability does not fully account for Jewish accomplishment (e.g., Unz, 2012). Both theoretical evolutionary explanations (Cochran et al., 2006; MacDonald, 1994) for Jewish
    intellectual ability and Jewish social success suggest that Jews are highly socially effective. This social effectiveness may be a contributing factor to Jewish accomplishment and because the GFP is thought to reflect social effectiveness (Dunkel & Van der Linden, 2014); it was hypothesized that Jews would have a higher GFP than other groups. An extensive analysis of this hypothesis was performed by using three separate datasets and the hypothesis was supported in the analyses of each of these samples. – http://archive.is/NZ7Nk#selection-4269.0-4367.50

    Judge Alex Kozinski and Eugene Volokh in an article entitled Lawsuit Shmawsuit, note the rise in use of Yiddish words in legal opinion. They note that chutzpah has been used 231 times in American legal opinions, 220 of those after 1980.[6]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chutzpah#Contemporary_usage

    [MORE]

    Kozinski was a well-known and one of the most prolific “feeder judges” in U.S. history: http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/#comment-2584816

    Judge Court No. of clerks No. per year of service

    Feeder judges from 1962–2002

    Alex Kozinski Ninth Circuit 27 1.59 Retired in 2017 *

    Modern feeder judges (OT 2009–present)

    Alex Kozinski Ninth Circuit 10

    * “retirement on December 18, 2017, after a growing number of allegations of improper sexual conduct and abusive practices toward law clerks.[2]” – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Kozinski

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeder_judge

    • Replies: @Sean
  122. anon[252] • Disclaimer says:

    To be fair, no one deserves anything. We all have to fight for what we get. The question, and problem, being why has the “white” race lost the will to fight? Just how intelligent and capable are the white gentiles who have let this “happen” to them?

    hello fellow whites

  123. Ron Unz says:
    @Sean

    Could Jews do that do that with an advantage in IQ, even if it was far more than what that Lynn and Unz are crediting them with? While they are no doubt more cohesive, one person (Ron) seems to have hewing a quixotic way through the controversy virtually alone. There are a lot of gentiles with close to the IQ of Ron Unz yet none of them has got any traction with bringing anti gentile discrimination at Harvard to the public’s attention…Jews are inherently good at convincing by argumentation and winning people over to controversial viewpoints (new intellectual tastes and trends) far beyond what their IQ would suggest, and like anyone with a gift they enjoy doing what they are good at.

    Actually, given those generous and rather amusing remarks, I think I’ll repeat a somewhat relevant comment I made a couple of weeks ago:

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/aux-barricades-mes-enfants/#comment-2564669

    By the way, your tremendous effort, undoubtedly, what is your ego and financial motivation for it, dare we ask?

    Well, most of my motives are rather obvious ones, e.g. WW3 being a really bad idea. But there is an additional one…

    I’d say that the concentration of Jewish-activists in ADL/AIPAC/etc is an *exceptionally* powerful political/ideological force as we can obviously see by the trajectory of the last couple of decades. So taking them on is a very worthy challenge.

    Probably most of you aren’t aware of it, but for decades the bilinguals were regarded as absolutely invincible, easily crushing all attacks against them from President Reagan on down. Then I came along in 1998 and completely broke them in twelve months, afterwards spending the next few years in mopping-up operations. I ultimately annihilated them so thoroughly that most people have forgotten they ever existed, let alone how enormously powerful they were.

    And just about the only major economic victory achieved by ordinary workers or labor unions in the last half-century have been the tremendously successful recent campaigns for huge hikes in the Minimum Wage. And frankly, I think my own efforts were a very substantial part of that success.

    So the extremely formidable power of the ADL and its allies is actually a rather tempting target…

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    , @crimson2
  124. peterAUS says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    I live 55 miles from the border and have been visiting since 1967, but only to verify what I regard as the only useful measure of China’s development, stats. Anecdotes don’t cut it.

    Thought so.

    Well, for some reason I guess some people prefer getting related info from somebody who’ve been LIVING there for, say, 20-30 years.
    Hard to find those types…oh, wait, it isn’t.
    I have three extended families in my street of that type. Kids go to the kindergarten in the neighborhood, elders often walk around and the bread winners travel China-here a lot. Chat with them every now and then.
    I have two acquaintances, of the same type,I chat with on weekly basis .
    Last, but not the least, people in two vege shops I buy groceries. Same type. Chatty people too.
    Just last week I did a brief project with a guy with extensive business contacts in China. Travels there and back a lot, knows people etc. Had two lunches together where he talked about China etc.

    Can’t recollect hearing from any of them, EVER, that… thing… you, for some reason, just love typing in here:

    …sometime between 2020-2025 every Chinese will have a home, a job, plenty of food, education, safe streets, health and old age care. ..

    Actually, heard quite the opposite. Especially from those doing everything in their power to stay and live HERE.

    They must be clueless.

    Stats, a?

    • Replies: @Godfree Roberts
  125. All of the above schools were founded by Westerners, people who were not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim. These 4 groups have no place in these institutions. These institutions must teach that the West is the best and the rest belong to second or third tier race groups.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Anon
  126. utu says:
    @anon

    Could explain where from are the numbers and how the extrapolation “should have been” was made?

    Your numbers indicate that only at Dartmouth and Princeton J<W and 10%<J%W and 27%>J%>23%.

    • Replies: @anon
  127. I strongly suggested that a leading factor was the “negative pressure” of America’s overwhelmingly Jewish media and Jewish activist groups, which might respond harshly to any significant decline in Jewish numbers:

    It would be unreasonable to ignore the salient fact that this massive apparent bias in favor of far less-qualified Jewish applicants coincides with an equally massive ethnic skew at the topmost administrative ranks of the universities in question

    I suspect that the combined effect of these separate pressures, rather than any planned or intentional bias, is the primary cause of the striking enrollment statistics that we have examined above.

    Interesting conclusion(s) and a little overly cautious one in the face of such overwhelming evidence of admissions skewing in favor of Jews. Had that occurred in a single institution, that conclusion would be understandable, but still remain investigation worthy. But too many coincidences (student enrollment, enrollers themselves) in too many institutions for them to be adequately explained thus. Basically what smells like a duck, quacks like a duck is being timidly called a cat. Had the skewing been in favor of Latinos for example, such an aberration would be harder to explain, all else staying the same.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  128. Eglantz2 says:

    An excellent and courageous article.

    The control of organizations that design academic tests is also critical: nothing is better known in intelligence test circles than that the tests measure cultural familiarity as much as problem-solving ability, and can be readily skewed to favor any cultural group. With such devotion to their own group in university admissions, and a high proportion of Jews in the testing organizations, you can be sure that they have the tests skewed to benefit Jewish candidates.

    Admission officers and everyone else at Jewish-controlled universities know which prejudice will bring stable careers and promotions, publications and awards, and which will being mysterious negative evaluations. The same incentives make tribal tyrannies of every employing organization.

    I did a similar analysis of the control of US newspapers in the 1980s, based upon probability of ethnic heritage based upon surname, and found that 40-60% of US newspapers were then controlled directly by Jewish employees or directors, and this percentage was increasing rapidly. (except for the papers in Texas-Louisiana which had no obvious ethnic bias, some say because they are controlled by oil companies, and the papers in New Jersey which were almost all Italian). Some magazines like Consumer Reports had a balanced staff but the parent organization was almost entirely Jewish. Some like National Geographic appointed Jewish board members, who within a year or so had installed Jewish editors, who eliminated any coverage unfavorable to Israel, and almost invariably cited Jewish persons for any good conduct and non-Jews for bad conduct. Not a single person has believed that study, nor inquired for the evidence.

  129. bomag says:
    @AaronB

    weak white admissions relative to Asians is clearly the result of weak motivation and less effort

    If our society didn’t go down the road of demonizing Whites, things would be different.

    We shouldn’t worry about competing with China. If they are so awesome, they can be awesome in their own country and trade with us.

    I’d be happy to live in a country of lethargic Whites vs a country of overachieving non-whites.

    Let’s not overstate the abilities of Chinese and other Asians vs traditional Americans. Our modern penchant for worshiping the Other is a far larger problem than any real ability difference.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  130. annamaria says:
    @Kurt Gayle

    Agree. The Wars for Israel have become possible only because of the incessant squealing about the eternal and incomparable Jewish victimhood and because of the blackmail (both open and covert) of the critics of Israel. The blackmailing and squealing have created a taboo on questioning the Jews’ behavior, which precluded a wide discussion on the role of the Lobby in the ongoing mass slaughter in the Middle East.

    The surest way to illuminate the stinky night flower of the Jewish Power is to bring to light the facts of the Bolshevik dictatorship in Russia (millions were maimed and murdered on the Jews’ orders) as well as the facts of the Lobby’s ongoing assault on the freedom of information and freedom of speech with regard to holo-biz & Jewish State’ crimes.

    The Unz Review is unique in its fearless and highly informed search for truth. There are simply no other comparable sites fighting for human decency and against the pernicious tribalism.

    • Agree: Justsaying
  131. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Why would you set aside 8% of admits for American Indians, given that they comprise ~1% of the U.S population?

    Those were purely hypothetical numbers. We could go down to 2% for the Indians.

    Anyway, my point is that IF the main worry about the recent lawsuit concerns the decline of black/brown numbers, it can be resolved by apportioning those groups fixed percentages. So, blacks need not worry since they will be assured 13% no matter what.

    But Jews, whites, and Asians must go by meritocracy for the remaining admission pool that is NOT fixed(for certain groups). Whether Asian numbers go up or down vis-a-vis Jew and whites, it won’t affect blacks and browns as their percentages will be fixed.

    My feeling is that Harvard makes a big thing about black-numbers-going-down to protect Jewish numbers. If US had no blacks and browns and ONLY whites, Jews, and Asians, it would be difficult for Jews to justify their high percentages. Whites and Asians might look into the system and realize that it’s rigged in favor of Jews. But if the system of rigging is generous toward blacks, a sacred untouchable group in America, then people will be afraid to raise questions about the rigging(that may also be used to favor Jews over whites and Asians). It is because the rigging is associated with blacks that people have been afraid to challenge it. Even now, NYT runs the story as a question of ‘what will happen to the blacks?’ Favors to blacks could serve as a shield to Jewish favors to themselves.

    Now, Jews are a sacred group too, so why couldn’t Jews justify AA in their favor? Because Jews have long argued that they’d been held back by defacto AA for dumb Wasp kids to the disadvantage of smarter Jewish kids. According to the Jewish Narrative, it was the superior brilliance and work ethic of Jews that made them a greater success in academia. So, it’d be embarrassing for elite schools to admit that Jews in recent yrs have been benefiting from something other than meritocracy.

    Still, there have been cases where Jewish sacredness shut up a lot of people about bad behavior. Why was Bernie Madoff able to get away with so much bad stuff? He was making lots of Jews rich or richer. He was seen as the guy who handled the money of Holocaust Survivor Elie Wiesel. He donated generously to Israel. Because his activities were associated with Good Works for Jews, he could do a lot of bad stuff behind the curtain. Same with Housing Bubble. Its shtick about fighting ‘racism’ in home loans allowed it get totally out of control. If you want to do bad stuff, find a moral cover.

    With Ivy League admissions, the moral cover is ‘we take in blacks but if you change the system, the poor noble blacks will suffer’.

    • Replies: @utu
  132. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    If anyone wants to read the Asians vs Harvard lawsuit; it’s Students For Fair Admissions vs Harvard filed November 2014 in the
    US District Court for the District of Massachusetts.

    Massachuetts is it’s own federal court district. The lead attorney for the plaintiff, Asian students is Edward Blum a common Jewish name Interesting.

    The plaintiff students for fair admissions has a website where you can follow the progress of the case

    There are 17 judges on the US district court. 3 are women 14 are men. Only one Jewish name I looked them up. One has a common Turkish name. Means yellow hair the name given to the millions of European children they enslaved over more than a thousand years.

    Most of the judges last names are standard Anglo German Celtic names, the same type of names of the presidents senators Congress critters and judges who obeyed the orders of their master Satan and imposed affirmative action discrimination on their own people

    I haven’t read any of it yet. Took a long time to find the name. News articles never write the names of lawsuits, just blah blah about a nameless lawsuit. Maybe it’s because the so called journalists don’t want anyone to read the lawsuit. Maybe they don’t know the name of the lawsuit themselves.

    • Replies: @Anon
  133. Truth says:
    @attilathehen

    Yo Tills;

    I have a great video series for you…

  134. AaronB says:
    @bomag

    I agree. I’d also rather live in a chilled out white country and just trade with China.

    I’m definitely not overstating any ability difference between the two races. I suspect they are of roughly equal intellectual ability though with a slightly different profile and the slight Asian edge is just the intense motivation and need to prove themselves. I suspect Jewish IQ is inflated for the same reasons, and may be declining as Jews no longer strive so hard.

    I say suspect – but I’m really rather certain of both of these :)

    Interestingly, whites had extensive dealings with Asians but the notion of smarter Asians was not widespread till well after WW2 and well into the decline of white motivation. What was noted about Asians was a willingness to work hard for little pay in bad conditions, and to be content with little – this was seen as the nature of the Asian threat, and to a certain extent this is still the case today.

    Anyways. I feel sorry for Asians (except the Japanese), but recognize that they have to go through this phase before they can get better. I wish them luck.

    In the meantime the challenge is for white countries to not become striver cultures in response, but to focus on really creating a worthwhile way of life finally that breaks with the past 500 years of expansion and progress that hasn’t really gotten us anywhere.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @utu
  135. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen

    In your dreams.

  136. annamaria says:
    @JLK

    “…the point of the article would be better served by eliminating the Holocaust references.”

    – Why? The main point of discussion on the Jewish Power is the successful, profitable, and cynical use of holo-biz memes. If Shoah were real, the academic researchers in the WWII would not be losing their jobs, reputations, and some even their freedom.

    If you do not like the “Holocaust references,” you should address your concern to those applicants to the Ivy league Schools, who could not help but bringing up the stories of “Holocaust-survived” grandmas and grandpas. Even S. Brin (of Google billions) presents himself as a “refugee” from Russia, though it would interesting to know whether his ancestors belonged to the bloody Bolsheviks that terrorized Russia.

    Should we call the Russian tragedy the Russian Holocaust? What about Nakba?

    “Study of Holocaust survivors finds trauma passed on to children’s genes:” https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/aug/21/study-of-holocaust-survivors-finds-trauma-passed-on-to-childrens-genes

    Time to sue the Jewish State (and the US) for the trauma inflicted to children of Palestine — as well as the children of Iraq, Syria, and Libya.

    Every time the Chosen mention Holocaust, they must be reminded about the horrors of the Bolshevik Revolution (make the “eternal victims” read “Two Hundred Years Together”) and about the traumatized, maimed, and murdered children of Gaza Ghetto.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  137. utu says:
    @Anon

    If you want to do bad stuff, find a moral cover.

  138. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    “While they are no doubt more cohesive…”
    – Let’s be more precise: How about the lack of scruples, dishonesty, self-promotion, and tribal loyalty that trumps professionalism and fairness?

  139. @Anon

    Quite interesting but you rarely fail to disappoint whenever one is tempted to regard you as reliable. A minor point at the outset is the ambiguity of your opening two sentences as I had just suggested that memorization would not be necessary.

    Then your gratuitous and completely erroneous identification of me as a Jew just tells the reader something about you

    Can you provide some simplifying information. I recall Year 12 maths classes at school where the last week’s before statewide competitive exams were used to practise on past years’ papers. If you did them all and were smart there wasn’t going to be much to take you by surprise. So how does what is described by you and others differ? Is the problem in the US that the current year’s exam questions are used time and again at different (and the same) locations so that it is possible for later takers of the tests to know *exactly* what the questions are? That sounds wrong because there would be many perfect results.

    Also, if the aim of those trying to beat the system is to learn what the current set of questions is why the need to resort to memorization? (BTW how many questions would there be and how many of them have to be answered for top marks?).

    • Replies: @Anon
  140. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    When I attached the link something happened and the comment disappeared. So I’ll write it again

    If you want to read it the lawsuit is;

    Students For Fair Admissions vs Harvard University It was filed November 2014 in the US District Court for the District of Massachusetts. Lead attorney for plaintiff is Edward Blum a common Jewish name. Interesting.

    17 judges on the court 3 women 14 men. 1 Jewish name. The others are Anglo Celt German names just like the names of the presidents senators Congress critters and judges who imposed affirmative action discrimination against their own people.

    Just one of the Judges. Allison Burroughs will hear the case and make the decision. She’s a woman, bad news for merit admissions.

    I haven’t read the case yet. The declaration complaint and response sections of the filing and response are a better way to find about a case than the journalist’s incoherence and retired judges blathering away in TV.

    Harvard Crimson has the best and most factual articles. Students For Fair Admissiins has website with daily reports.
    Whoever loses will file appeals.

    • Replies: @Anon
  141. peterAUS says:
    @AaronB

    …the slight Asian edge is just the intense motivation and need to prove themselves.

    Yup.

    …about Asians was a
    willingness to work hard for little pay in bad conditions, and to be content with little…

    Still is.

    …the challenge is for white countries … to focus on really creating a worthwhile way of life …

    Definitely.

    As for this, though

    …the past 500 years of expansion and progress that hasn’t really gotten us anywhere.

    ……never mind.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  142. Dan Hayes says:
    @Ron Unz

    Ron,

    I applaud all your efforts and they were (and are) successful (especially the unmentioned Unz Review), but

    Pride Goeth Before the Fall!

    Anyway keep on truckin’.

    • Agree: Ron Unz
  143. anon[143] • Disclaimer says:

    A Trump appointed judge to the New Orleans 5th circuit court of appeals, Justice James Ho, recently ruled against affirmative action in a court case in his district with the following remark:

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/10/22/trump-judges-doj-racial-preferences-education/

    No matter how well-intentioned the policy may be, injury is a mathematical certainty, because educational admissions is a zero-sum game: When a school offers admission based on a student’s race, it denies admission based on a student’s race. For every person you “help” due to race, you necessarily hurt another person due to race. And only by speaking plainly do we ensure fidelity to the Constitution.

    Enough said!

    Ho went to Stanford and Univ. of Chicago law school, it’s nice to see he’s not a dumb liberal Kool-Aid drinking cuck like other elite school educated Asians like Bill Lee(who is now arguing for Harvard), Ted Lieu, Theodore Chang, Sarah Jeong et al.

    Asians who continue to vote for DNC and support AA are the dumbest idiots of them all.

    • Replies: @Anon
  144. anon[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    yes, i should have clarified. i compiled that about 3-4 months ago.

    i found the yearly enrollment numbers (for 2014) on a website that appeared legit, then i just used the 6% number for Jews (National Merit semi-finalists) from the Unz article and iirc i used the lower number of 65% in the 65-70% range for non-jewish whites because i wanted to err on the side of caution.

    the estimated “actual” numbers were derived from Unz’s chart “Elite Undergraduate Enrollments 2007-2011″ in which he lists estimated percentages for jews and non-jewish whites, etc. (this chart is reproduced in this article) I couldn’t find 2011 enrollment numbers so i used 2014, hopefully its a reasonably good approximation.

  145. Holocaust. Yes, shouldn’t have been referred to as it was. I forwarded the article to relations who are not Jewish but in laws of totally non religious and non tribal Jews and the only immediate response was to put question marks to the Holocaust references.

  146. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Who cares what you think of my reading of your post or my post My post was about personal observations and conversations in 15 years of working at a major university and 3 methods of cheating I was told about more than once.

    It was also about people I knew who worked for the test prep courses. You’re an Australian and constantly fail to understand American issues.

    For instance your high school exit exams admission to college exams have nothing to do with the nursing & doctor lawyer certification exams I wrote about

    A 12 grader is not taking a professional certification exam. Your 12 grade Australian experience is not the American professional certification exam.

    I and others assume you are because you are extremely defensive about Jews. 4 Jewish kids cheated on their college entrance exams and you defensively jumped right in.

    I wrote about the American test prep courses. Your Australian experience has nothing in common with them. When I took the American college entrance exams we were told not to study for them. That was America when I was 17. A different time and place than Australia when you were 17

    If you want to get into an argument go beat your wife

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Wizard of Oz
  147. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Ted Lieu’s my Congress critter. Anyone not approved by the DNC could never become a congressman in this district.

  148. utu says:
    @AaronB

    Jesuits recognized that Chinese and even more Japanese were very smart. Can’t find references now.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  149. anon[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I and others assume you are because you are extremely defensive about Jews. 4 Jewish kids cheated on their college entrance exams and you defensively jumped right in.

    its odd that some people seem to think the wealthiest, most privileged group on the planet need their help

  150. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    That’s just alone or full blood as it’s called. People with 3/4 1/2 and 1/4 blood are entitled to tribal money certificates and benefits. It’s complicated, just like their DNA.

    Since Harvard hired 1/1024 Elizabeth Warren they probably take anyone who checks the Native American box.

  151. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Correction, Edward Blum isn’t an attorney. Some of the articles I read said he was the lead plantiff’s attorney. He’s not.

  152. AaronB says:
    @utu

    For sure. But they did not consider them to be smarter than Europeans.

    Asians were always seen as highly civilized, intelligent, industrious – but the notion that they are smarter than whites probably dates from the 1980s, well after WW2.

    Even though, European decadence probably began in the mid-19th century, based on the writings of European thinkers of the time, so I would have expected notions of higher Asian intelligence to be widespread by the beginning of the 20th century.

    Bertrand Russell taught at a Chinese university for a year and certainly admired China more than any European country, but he didn’t think the Chinese were smarter on average, although he loved them.

    Sir Charles Eliot who wrote one of my favourite books on Buddhism, and said that life in the West simply is not satisfying and Buddhist Asia has created a way of life that makes people happy, with which I agree, wrote that Somalis were as intelligent as the British, and that the British couldn’t stand this :)

    Not really relevant, but I found it a fascinating remark while we’re on the subject.

    Many of these old books by Europeans on other parts of the world can be mined for fascinating perspectives and insights that shed some light on questions facing us today, and are fascinating reading in their own right.

    So many are free on kindle or archive.org these days, I heartily recommend whiling away a few lazy Saturday afternoons perusing them.

    • Replies: @utu
  153. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Correction Edward Blum isn’t the lead attorney for the Students For Fair Admissions vs Harvard. He’s not even an attorney but some of the internet articles claimed he is.

  154. AaronB says:
    @peterAUS

    Its all or nothing, you can’t pick and choose :)

  155. @peterAUS

    You guess some people prefer getting related info from somebody who’ve been LIVING there for, say, 20-30 years. In that case, why not get your news from old (Western) media hands?

    You’re a people person. I’m more interested in trends and data, and some people find that useful, too.

    You can’t recollect hearing from any of them, EVER, that… thing… you, for some reason, just love typing in here:…sometime between 2020-2025 every Chinese will have a home, a job, plenty of food, education, safe streets, health and old age care. ..

    That’s right. That’s why you read the Unz Review. There’s a lot of stuff like that here.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  156. anon[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @SafeNow

    Excellent point. The “personal rating” is there to ensure Harvard recruits only narcissists, self-aggrandizing bozos, brown nosers, grade grabbers, pseudo artists and good little hypocrites good at playing the game, i.e. pretending they care about the world and the downtrodden.

    It’s main purpose is to screen out the nice, hard-working, humble, understated true geniuses. These people are not wanted at Harvard. Harvard prefers the loud mouth, chest-thumping, lying, cheating, good at sucking up type who will go places in law, banking and politics then contribute generously to the Harvard corporation.

    Little wonder Harvard’s academic achievement has gone down the toilet. Of the 49 Nobel Laureates who are either faculty or alumni at Harvard, 34 are in the sciences (medicine, Chem, Physics), of those, only 4 went to Harvard as undergrad, all before 1954. Ten others went to Harvard as graduate students(but elsewhere for undergrad), all before 1960. Harvard hasn’t produced a Nobel Laureate in the sciences since 1960. Their only prestige comes from all the Nobel winning faculty that they poached from other universities, who overwhelmingly did not attend Harvard.

    Harvard is an intellectual grave yard for the truly intellectually curious. The average grade is an A-. A black kid recently submitted a rap song as his senior thesis, got an A- and graduated with honors. They recently dumbed-down the introductory Physics class so more women and blacks can pass.

  157. Western says:
    @Anon

    It’s amazing how many foreign doctors there are in this country now. It seems most have also gone to US medical schools, not less prestigious school in Latin America like it is made out to be.

    I don’t think there should be any foreign students, especially at state schools. It’s bad enough that a lot of the “American” students now are Asian, but we also get foreign Asians coming here to take places.

    I can’t believe how many Indian doctors there are here now.

    • Replies: @anon
  158. anon[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @Josh Barnes

    I agree about this. First generation immigrants (even if immigrated as children) should be counted as foreign students which is usually limited to ~10% of total enrollment, regardless of what passport they hold.

  159. anon[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @Western

    There are certainly a lot of Indian doctors in our area. Most of them are female and speak with a heavy Indian accent, indicating they were trained in India. I saw a few and was not at all impressed, now I actively avoid them.

  160. denk says:
    @Josh Barnes

    a place that is devoid of empathy, common sense, and basic decency

    The Chinese dont do this to their allies.

    http://web.archive.org/web/20060519070429/http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200605/200605040021.html

    Ooops, but white trash supremacists here call their Korean ‘allies’ eunuchs !
    hhhhh

  161. utu says:
    @AaronB

    This whole thing of “smarter than…” we are getting from the IQists brigade who reified their own construct who they control. So it is almost impossible to dislodge them form their entrenched position. Unfortunately they have created a lot memes that captivated many captives from among the subset with particular predilections, inclinations and tendencies. Most of them not really good like enjoying being a captive.

    I am pretty sure the Jesuits recognized some qualities in which Asians excelled. Jesuits were pretty deep and nuanced unlike the IQist bozos.

    As far as why Asians perform well it is because they are driven: ambitious, hungry and hard working with a tint of resentment to show that I am better. The same phenomenon described Jews in 19/20 century except that the resentment part is deeper, ideological and doctrinal. This makes Jews significantly different. Japanese could have similar qualities but their isolationism effectively extinguish the negative ones. Japanese do not have the doctrine of Tikkum Olam or LaGoyim to save the world and light onto nations (wink wink) by conquering it and enslaving it under Jewish supremacy.

    • Agree: AaronB, Druid
  162. Anon[185] • Disclaimer says:
    @A Simple Pseudonymic Handle

    You’re legitmising and rationalising your own dispossession. I do agree that there is an aversion against higher ed in conservative white circles, but that is precisely because they know about the ideological hostility such places have for them.

    If these places were more equal, and more welcoming, there would be far greater applicants. The problem, therefore, is not somekind of intrinsic lack of “white motivation” as much as anti-white hostility embedded in these institutions, just as there is in the American media. Both of whom are heavily Jewish in the administrator class.

    And Jews overpromoting their own kin to the tune of a 1000% overrepresentation above their actual performance is not “savvy”; it is crude ethnic nepotism and frankly anti-white bigotry. Stop being a cuck.

  163. peterAUS says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    You’re a people person. I’m more interested in trends and data, and some people find that useful, too.

    The first sentence is just funny.
    The second is related to HUMINT in certain trades. Or “Mark 1 eyeball”. Or “man on the ground”. Also to wishful thinking, delusion and simple plain propaganda.Some people find that useful too for sure, especially the last.
    This could come as surprise to you but you CAN have trends and data from HUMINT and the rest.
    You appear to be old enough to remember the DIFFERENCE between “trends and data” and defectors/assets/consular input with Warsaw Pact? No immigration then. Easier now.
    True, it was one party Communist world and this one is……oh wait.
    Would be funny, but, if money is good, why not? A man has to pay his bills.
    All good.

    There’s a lot of stuff like that here.

    Oh yes. We definitely agree there. Say…..40 % articles and 70 % comments, at least.

  164. niceland says:

    Last Sunday, just before the legal proceedings began, the Times ran a major article explaining the general background of the controversy, and I was very pleased to see that my own past research was cited as an important factor sparking the lawsuit,

    I ran to the Times web to read the article and to feel the air in the comment section, but I found nothing. It seems the comment section is either closed or not available to me. In the article and also below are links to related articles on the Times web and most of them have close to 1000 comments? My 3 min research came up with another one without comments though.

    I am not a subscriber and don’t know how their comment policies work. Ideas?

    • Replies: @anon
  165. @Anon

    OVery odd. I don’t even remember the story of ” 4 Jewish kids cheating on their college entrance exams” and can’t imagine finding such anecdotes of any interest (they are certainly not statistically interesting) except to see how the telling of them says something about the teller. I like evidence of clear thinking and it appears that you have jumped to conclusions based on your prejudices rather than seeing that I was attempting to resolve what seemed a bit of a muddle. I remain interested, to simplify my interests even further, in knowing why a collection of past papers isn’t sufficient for the preparation for the various exams/tests. Also, why memorizing is necessary. (Don’t you get it? To stop someone taking a sufficient note or record of the questions out of an exam room would require extraordinary measures. What measures are taken?).

    I have tall blue eye’d blonde nieces who have been accepted by Ivy League colleges in the top 3. I gather their parents did research the SAT coaching business but they got in on excellent English A level results.

    • Replies: @Anon
  166. Anon[863] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim_T

    Well reasoned if I may say so. But I don’t for a moment (Well not for more than a thousandth of a moment in this uncertain world) go for the idea that Ron is deliberately sabotaging his case.

    I do go for the idea that he is mildly Aspergerish (though not as rich as Michael Burry) as explanation for not instinctively withholding those Holocaust related remarks. But don’t we benefit from his peculiarities? :-)

  167. Pheasant says:
    @Anon

    ‘One is that Black Irish thousands of survivors of the Spanish Armada stayed in Ireland’

    Often this is a cover story for Sephardic emigrants to Ireland. There are naturally black haired people in Ireland which is why it works as a cover. In America there is the concept of the ‘black dutch’ which is similar Holland being a respite and Launching pad for Sephardic Jews.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Anon
  168. kiismerhe says:
    @utu

    “I think you definitively should consider removing the paragraph about Holocaust and Jews being the largest per capita mass murderers. Making these kind of pronouncements does not belong to this article. I am sure of it! ”

    Ah, so you are brave enough to stand up against Jewish admissions officers but wouldn’t go against the ADL. Fortunately Ron Unz doesn’t feel that way.

    Those issues are not separate they are all part of the Jewish-non Jewish conflict and hopefully you and your kind won’t be able to control the conversation any more.

    • Replies: @jack daniels
  169. CollDoll says:

    Thank you Ron Unz. Now would you or someone please do similar research for other suspected inordinately jewish dominated professions, like Finance, Publishing, Law, Media, Medicine, Pornography, Liquor.

  170. @Anon

    Calm down. I agree that the atmosphere at elite universities tends to be hostile towards conservatives, and that that has serious negative consequences for the culture. But I was making a narrower point. Ron’s piece focused on bias in admissions specifically, not in the overall campus climate.

    Ron attempts to measure the ethnic compositions first of high-performing high school students and then of the undergraduate student bodies at elite universities. Set aside for a moment any potential methodological problems with his approach, and assume the disparities he presents do exist. My point was that Ron treats the disparities as ipso facto evidence of admissions bias. But that doesn’t account for the possibility that some groups make greater efforts to gain admission than others.

    • Replies: @anon
  171. @Pheasant

    There is little doubt that many Armada ships were blown by a SW gale past England, and tried to get back to Spain by sailing around Ireland, where quite a few ships ran on the rocks.
    Garrett Mattingly, ‘The Armada’, Boston 1959

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  172. anon[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim_T

    I am just going to come out and say this: I question Mr. Unz’s motives.

    if what he’s writing is true, why would his motives matter? its either true or its not

    What this reminds me of is the movie “American History X”, in which Edward Norton’s character makes an entirely reasonable argument about black crime that is totally unrefuted by his mother’s boyfriend, who started the discussion. But at the end, he disrobes to reveal a swastika tattoo, informing the Jewish man that he is not welcome.

    another hollywood movie where the jew is the victim? lol, quelle surprise

    let me know when (((they))) do something on the the Holodomor or on the mass murderer (((Genrik Yagoda)))

  173. Ron Unz says:
    @Justsaying

    I suspect that the combined effect of these separate pressures, rather than any planned or intentional bias, is the primary cause of the striking enrollment statistics that we have examined above.

    Interesting conclusion(s) and a little overly cautious one in the face of such overwhelming evidence of admissions skewing in favor of Jews…But too many coincidences (student enrollment, enrollers themselves) in too many institutions for them to be adequately explained thus. Basically what smells like a duck, quacks like a duck is being timidly called a cat.

    Well, you might be correct, but I don’t think so, at least at the overwhelming majority of elite schools.

    First, apparently very few of the admissions officers are themselves Jewish. Instead, according to all accounts they tend to be pretty low-paid and ignorant, while being mindlessly left-liberal in their ideology. Maybe their superiors order them to admit Jews, but I doubt it.

    After my article came out, Harvard leaders were apparently so shocked at my Asian findings, they organized their own secret investigation. Would they have done that if they knew what was going on?

    As I explained in my big Meritocracy article, most Americans are *extraordinary* ignorant about demographics:

    The last point is not a trivial one, since although our country is only about 13 percent black, according to a 2001 Gallup survey most people thought the figure was 33 percent, with the average non-white putting it at 40 percent.[104] This was roughly confirmed by the GSS respondents in 2000, who also believed that nearly 18 percent of Americans were Jewish, a figure more than eight times too large.[105] A very recent 2012 survey found that Americans believe Protestants outnumber Jews in this country by only 2.5 to 1, when the actual ratio is ten times greater.[106]

    If the ignorant admissions officers vaguely believe that Jews are 18% of the country, ensuring that the campus has roughly that percentage or perhaps somewhat more to make up for the Holocaust really isn’t so totally strange.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Justsaying
  174. anon[201] • Disclaimer says:

    As I explained in my big Meritocracy article, most Americans are *extraordinary* ignorant about demographics:

    this is by design, of course

    up until a few years ago all i knew, as a white American, is that i was supposed to be ashamed of my race and ethnicity so i had no moral authority to be questioning affirmative action, college admissions, illegal immigration, fake refugees, etc

  175. Are we also considering the “Asian” propensity for nepotism, ethnic favoritism and a rather heavy dose of plain old greed (and not just in the empty suit demographic) that has worked wonders for the Indian (dot) American community especially in tech? The bright ones are not just bright as in German bright or Taiwanese bright, they are “gifted” (cunning) and “insightful” (Machiavellian) as well. And the not so bright ones are the same except the IQ part.

    Are we considering how it has and will continue to change the landscape of our nation when it comes to white collar professions. True merit will then be relegated to the same worn out shelf slot that “abstract” things like ethics and morality now have in the wider demographic. What then? What if your local tech bigwig has a wall street like atmosphere (at work) where you’ll be required to watch your back and measure your word and make calculated moves just to keep some ganesh barging in and shutting you out? How’s that sound? Fun eh? This is already happening across the country, decidedly more on the diseased coastal cities what with their penchant for street shitting shitlibs and (designated) street shitting CEOs. Will you, good sir (Mr. Unz) do a special “op-ed” on this “unique” threat? Something that has the potential to hollow us out from the inside?

    Now the action is decidedly moving inland (even steak chomping kansas is enjoying the fruits of “Asian” brilliance as we speak). All those useless white engineers have been swept aside in overland park to welcome the true indians back to where they belong (talk about coming full circle on this). If these oh so intelligent Asians are not regulated, we can look forward to being the new dalits in the land that our forefathers tamed. These “Asians” just don’t bring their “much vaunted” brilliance with them when they move here, they enrich us with their “culture” of bribery, nepotism, caste based snobbish arrogance. No wonder DC whores like leon fresco is making a killing right now, advocating for them. They both stick together like fish to water.

    And they don’t just hate us like those other stupid mud races do. They’ve figure it’d be a lot more fun to see us wallow in misery and poverty, drugs then to straight up kill us. As one ganesh in my previous org used to “joke around” that the only white thing he likes is a white p****. No kidding.

    So, how about some Indian food for lunch?

    • Replies: @utu
    , @peterAUS
    , @anon
  176. utu says:
    @CrazedIndiot

    I concur with your description and concerns with Indians. From my experience and observations it does not look good.

  177. @Ron Unz

    Dear Mr. Unz,
    Your prodigious investigations of numerous important topics are awe-inspiring and a great service to the nation. But by throwing in the bit about the Holocaust being to some degree a fabrication you make the article unusable for many who could otherwise cite it to good effect. Maybe you could create a ‘sanitized’ version of it restricted to bias in admissions.
    I try to keep an open mind on the Holocaust. Growing up in NYC I saw many men and women on the subway with numbers tattooed on their arms. That is not proof they were in line to be gassed but it does count in favor of a persecution narrative. That is not to deny that other groups have been persecuted perhaps even by Jews.
    Late one night there were some girls on the campus radio station who might have been a little high and one of them was saying, Please, whatever you do, never forget the Holocaust! I confess I found this refreshing though I doubt they were ever allowed on the air again.

    Thank you again for your ground-breaking research on topics that desperately need it.

    JD

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Druid
  178. @Anon

    Maybe the correct solution is to let these institutions succeed or fail on their own merits?

    Education is not a “right”. If a certain person or group believes a certain student shows promise in a certain field, let that person or group work out the details of the prospective students agreement. If the prospective student doesn’t agree with the terms, they can either find a job or find a sponsor(s) with terms they find mutually agreeable.

    • Replies: @anon
  179. @Jim_T

    I confess I too was taken aback by the Holocaust comment. I have no problem with wanting to challenge official dogmas, but it makes his article unusable by anyone wishing to argue that white gentiles deserve fair representation in the new America.

    Self-sabotage is certainly a possibility. It wouldn’t be surprising if Mr. Unz has some eccentricities; many gifted people do.

    I hope he will produce a more concise version without the peripheral issues.

  180. @kiismerhe

    Suppose your husband beats you and he is also a Russian spy. Do you make these accusations in one stroke? If your immediate goal is to get the authorities to intervene on your behalf it would obviously be prudent to separate these concerns, one of which is concrete and demonstrable and the other of which requires a lengthy and problematic investigation. Eh?

    Now I suspect YOU are working for the Illuminati!

    • Replies: @kiismerhe
  181. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @DanFromCT

    Jewish kids don’t do prep for college entrance tests at the Hebrew schools which teach only Hebrew and religion

    The majority only take those courses 1 or 2 years till they are 13.

    There is nothing to prevent the goyim from spending $ 30 apiece on some college entrance test prep books. There are several publishers. Spend $150 get them all and make your kids memorize every version of every question. Make sure they know the math formulas perfectly so they don’t have to think about the formula, just do the problems during the test.

    Or spend $1,000 or whatever taking the test prep course with classes and teachers. You’re going to spend a fortune in college anyway.

    Many high schools offer SAT ACT prep courses free.

    We goyim aren’t paralyzed morons overwhelmed by Jewish geniuses.

    Post 34 is schocking though and a gross violation of the findings in Griggs vs Duke Power “ disproportionate representation is in and of itself clear and present evidence of discrimination”

    On the other hand, the Irish last name 1/2 Korean grandson of a friend took one of those low costs birth right Israel tours. He qualified on the grounds that one grandparent is Jewish so he’s 1/4 Jewish. No proof was required.

    The last Bar Mitzvah in the Jewish side of the family occurred sometime in the mid 1950s. The kids Jewish father was baptized first communionized? and raised catholic/ atheist. He’s attending a state college in his hometown.

    Were blacks so grossly under represented in college admissions as the figures in post 34 the colleges would have been sued and fined decades ago.

  182. An admirable analysis! The strong light of truth. Mr. Unz is incomparable.

  183. Anonymous[738] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    First, apparently very few of the admissions officers are themselves Jewish. Instead, according to all accounts they tend to be pretty low-paid and ignorant, while being mindlessly left-liberal in their ideology. Maybe their superiors order them to admit Jews, but I doubt it.

    Looks like a situation where the dumb goyim can be played any number of ways without an explicit order. Jewish nepotism is legendary and it’s obviously working here as well as a casting process for an Adam Sandler movie.

    After my article came out, Harvard leaders were apparently so shocked at my Asian findings, they organized their own secret investigation. Would they have done that if they knew what was going on?

    It’s extremely unlikely that the Jews among them were shocked. Almost all of them can recognise other Jews better than me – and my Jewdar is nuclear-powered.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Ron Unz
  184. Ron Unz says:
    @jack daniels

    Your prodigious investigations of numerous important topics are awe-inspiring and a great service to the nation. But by throwing in the bit about the Holocaust being to some degree a fabrication you make the article unusable for many who could otherwise cite it to good effect. Maybe you could create a ‘sanitized’ version of it restricted to bias in admissions.

    That sounds like a perfectly reasonable request. Frankly, it seems to me that almost the entire content of my article is so “controversial” that leaving out that one paragraph won’t make all that much difference, but I suppose you know your audience better than I do.

    I’d normally be rather reluctant to do this sort of thing, but since quite a number of commenters have raised exactly the same issue in such strong terms and the offending paragraph is entirely extrinsic to everything else in the article, it’s easy enough for me to produce an “expurgated” version for all of you to distribute:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/xxamerican-pravda-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/

    I’ve also blocked comments on that version since lots of commenters tend to also raise so many “controverial” issues.

    Anyway, good luck with promoting it elsewhere. I suspect you’ll need it…

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @jack daniels
  185. peterAUS says:
    @CrazedIndiot

    Agree.
    Especially with:

    … “Asian” propensity for nepotism, ethnic favoritism and a rather heavy dose of plain old greed (and not just in the empty suit demographic)..

    … they are “gifted” (cunning) and “insightful” (Machiavellian) as well. And the not so bright ones are the same except the IQ part…

    ..their “culture” of bribery, nepotism, caste based snobbish arrogance.

    • Replies: @CrazedIndiot
  186. Ron Unz says:
    @Anonymous

    It’s extremely unlikely that the Jews among them were shocked. Almost all of them can recognise other Jews better than me – and my Jewdar is nuclear-powered.

    Obviously no one in the academic community was shocked by the very heavy Jewish enrollment figures—after all, they’d been on the Hillel website for many, many years and heavily emphasized in Karabel’s book and lots of others. I’d mentioned it in my 1999 WSJ op-ed.

    But absolutely *everyone* (including myself!!!) was totally, totally shocked by the rather unimpressive current academic performance of Jewish HS students, which produced the ridiculous over-representation I describe. After all, if Jews were 19% of America’s highest-performing students and 25% of the Harvard classes, nobody would really be making that much of a fuss.

    I’ve actually been quite friendly for many years with some of America’s most prominent academic scholars, including those in sociologically-related fields, both Jewish and Gentile, both at Harvard and elsewhere, and all of them were totally, totally shocked. I’m absolutely sure Karabel was shocked, and he’d published a 700 page book on Jewish admissions issues, the most definitive historical study ever done.

    With regard to Asian Quotas, almost everyone knowledgeable suspected it (except maybe the see-no-evil top Harvard administrators), but I do think I’m the first person who more or less proved it…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  187. Ron Unz says:
    @Anonymous

    Looks like a situation where the dumb goyim can be played any number of ways without an explicit order.

    I think you’re ignoring just how astonishingly ignorant lots of those admissions officers seem to be. For example, by all accounts Harvard’s admissions office is greatly superior in quality to the rest of the Ivy League, let alone lesser colleges. But as I noted, in a book published by a longtime Senior Harvard Admissions Officer “he appears to describe Duke, Northwestern, and Rice as being members of the Ivy League.”

    If he was basically a “very dumb jock” who never even knew which colleges were in the Ivy League (or didn’t bother proofing his own book), I don’t doubt he might make all sorts of ridiculous admissions decisions without anyone even needing to “play him.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  188. Ron Unz says:

    Incidentally, I should mention one very interesting piece of information I was provided a couple of years after publishing my Meritocracy article. I’m not aware of any solid evidence proving it, let alone quantitative data, and since it’s basically “hearsay” I’ve never included it in any of my writings, but I did hear it from a couple of reasonably reliable people active in the Harvard community, so I think it’s probably true.

    Apparently, a *huge* factor in Harvard admissions over the last couple of decades has been athletic ability, basically being a really great Lacrosse player or Hockey player or even Football player.

    Allegedly, something like 15-20% of all admissions are largely controlled by the various athletic coaches and their departments. And apparently, the overwhelming majority of these athletic-admits are white. Back in my day, I doubt it was more than about 5%, and mostly restricted to local Boston-area athletes.

    In some respects, the notion of Harvard having gradually become an athlete-school is almost more shocking than anything else. I haven’t been following the details of the Boston trial, and I wonder if any of this has been now confirmed by actual hard evidence.

    • Replies: @gregor
    , @Anonymous
  189. Anonymous[738] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    That’s a fair point.

    I think it’s the age-old “boy-king” syndrome. An old patriarch wins the kingdom but his descendants… descend with each subsequent generation into fat and lazy stupor. His instinct was to make them as safe and prosperous as possible but too much safety and luxury ended up creating weakness and hubris.

    That’s why I don’t believe – contrary to popular opinion – that the Tribe’s famous, hyper-nepotistic group strategy is “good for the Jews” in the long run.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
    , @Sean
  190. Sean says:
    @FKA Max

    . Both theoretical evolutionary explanations (Cochran et al., 2006; MacDonald, 1994) for Jewish intellectual ability and Jewish social success suggest that Jews are highly socially effective.

    Cochran suggests no such thing, he merely says Jews are cleverer due to the historical reproductive fitness of the cleverest business-people, in a community where all were in business and practiced endogamy. He and Peterson think that explains everything.

    • Replies: @FKA Max
    , @FKA Max
  191. Anonymous[738] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    I don’t doubt he might make all sorts of ridiculous admissions decisions with anyone even needing to “play him.”

    But the results are not random so the game exists and someone is getting played. I’m gonna go on a limb here and propose that the Jews are playing the goyim.

  192. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Sean

    Thanks, Sean.

    I’m aware of this and this is a good rebuttal paper on his theory, which I have been quoting and citing for a while:

    How Jews Became Smart:
    Anti-”Natural History of Ashkenazi Intelligence”

    “I do not dispute that unusually low intelligence would be an obstacle in business. My point is that there is no evidence that it took anything more than average intelligence to make more money, if those other factors just discussed were working in one’s favor. There is nothing in this record to suggest that those fecund few at the top were any smarter than those staff members who labored below them, or that they had acquired their wealth by special perspicacity. NHAI argues that financial success was based on higher intelligence, that those with greater g prospered and disproportionately reproduced, overcompensating for the undeniable liability of carrying alleles for harmful conditions, and pulling the entire population’s IQ upward. A closer look at Ashkenazi society makes this scenario extremely unlikely.”

    - http://archive.is/wfpNR#selection-10653.0-10713.57 and also http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/#comment-2584982

    I have also been arguing for a while here in the Unz Review comment section that highly “Social Darwinist” societies and groups, like the Jews and the Chinese, have selected not so much for intelligence as for more anti-social traits:

    It seems that very harsh and “Social Darwinist” environments and cultures do not necessarily select for intelligence exclusively, or maybe not even predominately, but that they mostly select for risk taking, aggressiveness, ruthlessness, i.e., psychopathic and rather anti-social traits.
    http://www.unz.com/runz/how-social-darwinism-made-modern-china-248/#comment-1866207

    In my opinion, all applicants and candidates for high-level positions in government, business, the military, etc. and for prestigious elite schools/universities (both students and faculty), which are the springboards into high-level governmental, etc. positions and the elite’s main recruiting grounds, should be both IQ and Psychopathy Checklist tested.

    I think this would ensure a more genuine and solid meritocracy and elite.

    http://www.unz.com/forum/white-students-unfair-advantage-in-admissions/#comment-1754583

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  193. @Anonymous

    @Ron Unz,

    “That’s why I don’t believe – contrary to popular opinion – that the Tribe’s famous, hyper-nepotistic group strategy is “good for the Jews” in the long run.”

    I concur. Peace, diplomacy and free-trade with all, for one example, can easily undermine the above-mentioned dynamic.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  194. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Sean

    This article by Mr. Unz is a perfect example of the “Jewish chutzpah” I was talking about:

    When Viacom CEO Philippe Dauman Still Had an IQ of 260

    http://www.unz.com/runz/when-viacom-ceo-philippe-dauman-still-had-an-iq-of-260/

  195. @anon

    Is that the same advice Jews have given to blacks? Course not. They are encouraged to blame whitey.
    Western civilization has been attacked from inside, by a group of determined subversives who get money first then use it to acquire power. Rules, ala W Civ, mean nothing. Only one rule matters: what’s good for the Jews.
    Treason trials.
    Hangings
    Mass expulsions
    American Revolution 2.0

  196. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pheasant

    Whatever the cover story is, I find it as irritating as the “there were no Jews in America until 1880 and we all came through Ellis Island “. Look at Sean Connery I supposed his dark coloring came from an Armada ship that made it to Scotland.

  197. Sean says:
    @Anonymous

    Robert Plomin in his recent book, Blueprint: How DNA Makes Us Who We Are, says that he did not think TV watching would be influenced by genes. However, it turned out it was highly influenced, because most people let their children watch as much TV as they liked.

    Richard Lynn and Satoshi Kanazawa in their paper of a decade ago How to explain high Jewish achievement: The role of intelligence and values , say

    The two principal theories that have been advanced to explain this are that Jews have high intelligence and, alternatively, that they have cultural values that promote success. We review the evidence and present new data suggesting that high intelligence is the more important of these two factors.

    But only now, it was not always that way.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  198. @Ron Unz

    Thank you for producing a less provocative version! My intuitions may be wrong, but the history of cultural change I have witnessed since the 1960s suggests that ideas that are outrageous now can gradually evolve into acceptable dissent and from there into consensus opinion. The following argument seems sufficiently inoffensive to be practically usable IMO:

    The white middle class has been economically and culturally harmed by the changes of the last several decades.

    These changes have been promoted or defended by rhetoric that focuses on the suffering of victim groups and the need to atone via preferential treatment.

    Whites are seen as victimizers and non-whites and sexual minorities as the victims.

    Therefore non-whites are to receive preferential treatment at the expense of whites.

    But, where college admissions are concerned, white privilege disappears when we distinguish Jews from (other) whites. Jews are rightly protected against discrimination, but non-Jewish whites are not. This forces affirmative admissions of other groups to come from the pool of non-Jewish whites. The result is that non-Jewish whites are actually under-represented by a large factor.

    This discrimination against a group of low to middle income (“the deplorables”) is not consistent with the altruistic rhetoric used to promote it. It may seem odd to worry about the lot of white gentiles but the facts are there to prove they have suffered considerably from Rainbow Coalition social policy prolonged over several decades.

  199. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    A levels?????? Your nieces got into an American Ivy League school with just one English A level? ??? They didn’t take the American SAT and ACT college entrance exam??? Those exams are given world wide including Australia in numerous locations

    No one gets into an American college without taking the SAT ACT that tests both verbal and math ability. If, if an American college accept the English exams they would expect at least an O level math.

    But American colleges don’t accept the English A & O level exams because they are subject exams

    By the way, at what so called American Ivy League college did your nieces get accepted?? Are you aware that Ivy League is not a term for top college but a league of only 8 colleges in America???

    I just looked it up.All 8 American Ivy League schools require the basic SAT test of verbal and math ability. So your nieces could not have been accepted into an American Ivy League college with just one A level in English

    This discussion is about the American college admission process, not the British or Australian college admission process. Whatever that you took for college admission is completely irrelevant. Your nieces English A levels didn’t get them into an American Ivy League college unless they took the math and verbal SAT and had numerous sports band music and other extra curricular activities. plus charity work and political activities.

    That’s what it takes to get into an American college, not one English A level.

    Different countries, different system.

    Our college entrance exam preparation courses aren’t a high school math teacher or going over the prep books.
    They are big multi million dollar nationwide companies. The teachers of those courses aren’t tutoring for extra money. It’s a career, secure and well paid

    The teachers often middle aged take the tests. They are assigned to memorize 5 questions 92 to 97 maybe. They take the tests again and again except for the professional credential tests which they purposefully fail so they can take it again and again.

    The companies compiles a new course based on the memorized questions and the teachers employed by the companies teach the course.

    That’s how it’s done in America?

    By the way, which American Ivy League colleges did your nieces get into with just an English A level???

    Different countries, different college admission tests and requirements.

    My English relatives tell me they have extensive preparation and studying for their A & O level exams. They’re a lot easier than the SATs because they’re subject exams. The kids pick a subject they’re already good in and study it for the exam.

    The SATs require both math and English ability.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @dearieme
  200. Anonymous[738] • Disclaimer says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    Actually, my view is that the Tribe’s hostile and nepotistic strategy is very effective at undermining goyim societies on (almost) all levels.

    But it’s also a dysgenic crutch which gradually weakens the chosenites to the point of failure – usually when the goyim figure out that they’re being ruled by incompetents. It’s happening now, I believe.

  201. Anonymous[738] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    High Jewish intelligence is a(nother Jewish) myth. Every area they’ve infiltrated (MSM, banking, entertainment, education etc.) is experiencing cascading failures in direct proportion to the number of chosenites in charge. Colour me unimpressed.

    • Replies: @aba
  202. kiismerhe says:
    @jack daniels

    Did I find out that she was a Jewish spy while she was beating me? No? Was it before? Than, I guess I have already reported it before.
    Just as Ron Unz has already published his findings about the Holocaust earlier. And now added that just to make the picture complete.

  203. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @niteranger

    I looked at the dockets and the latest October 15 filing. There are dozens of friend of the court briefs by the endless Harvard Radcliffe non White lgbtu feminazi progressive clubs including Asian clubs.

    I read a few. Harvard will lose its precious diversity. Same old same old.

  204. @Anon

    I haven’t time to read all this no-doubt interesting and informative post but hasten to say that the A level results which (with interviews – which probably helped as they are both good actors) got them into top Ivies were 4 A* results (they had previously got 10 and 11 A*s at GCSE level). I am not sure whether their school offered IB as an alternative to A levels but it is my private view that IB is preferable because it requires maths and my nieces didn’t have the maths required to do particular courses at Oxford or Cambridge that I would have recommended to them and their parents. No doubt if they had done maths SAT they would have scored quite high though not blitzed it as they would with the verbal. And, yes, just to be provocative, they have a couple of Jewish professors’ genes from the in-laws…. Funny that they are tall blonde and blue eye’d :-)

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Anon
  205. anon[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @CrazedIndiot

    Agree. America’s future looks a lot like India.

  206. Dan Hayes says:
    @jilles dykstra

    jilles dykstra:

    Unfortunately, I believe that many Armada shipwreck survivors upon making land were slaughtered by the native Irish peasantry (who, of course, were Catholic). A very sad and inglorious ending with Mother England triumphing once again!

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @anon
  207. Ronnie says:

    Sincere thanks to Ron for spelling it out and making it all so clear. Ron Unz is a warrior I would be happy to support in any battle. I was at Yale in 1967 as a foreign Protestant student from Ireland – I soon figured out that at least a quarter of the undergrads were Jewish and even more of the grad students and faculty – I did not know many administrators at that time so I could not say anything about them. This situation at Yale was a shock to me and culturally it felt like racism where I was the oppressed. When I mentioned this to anyone I was treated coldly like I was a holocaust denier – I found this very blatant in a toxic way and it never left my mind for the last 51 years – so happy now to see all my suspicions confirmed by real facts. I have been a Prof at several US medical schools all this time and saw this same phenomenon at many institutions. Very depressing at times.

    Anyway, I fought the good fight – I won some and I lost some – it could have been worse. I guess that my question is whether the Jewish phenomenon will be mentioned at the Boston trial by the Asian side? I read some of the consultants reports prepared for the trial and did a word search for Jew – I did not see the word Jew mentioned but maybe I missed it. Most of the Chinese I have spoken to do not understand that it is not the whites but maybe the Jews who are keeping them out. They all need to read Ron’s articles.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Anon
    , @anon
    , @denk
  208. Anon[863] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reuben Kaspate

    Tell that to Rabin’s widow and the families of Jews killed in the King David Hotel…..

  209. anon[572] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ronnie

    This situation at Yale was a shock to me and culturally it felt like racism where I was the oppressed. When I mentioned this to anyone I was treated coldly like I was a holocaust denier….

    wow, that’s hard to believe

  210. anon[572] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I haven’t time to read all this no-doubt interesting and informative post…

    but somehow you’ve got plenty of time to spew more drivel

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  211. @peterAUS

    I’ve heard Australia is slowly waking up to this “model minority” and has completely shuttered the 457 “high skilled immigration” visa that was primarily used by our “friends” from the land of kamasutra (and gang rape off late). Is that true?

    If yes good for you. We are quite late and deep in the quicksand as it is. A fracturing society, joblessness for many otherwise skilled Americans, a looming race war what have you! I’m trying my best to awaken as many whites as I can about these “foreign talents” as it is, especially the sneaky desi ones. But I’ve experienced that most outside of tech are rather indifferent to them since they radiate a “harmless if creepy” aura unlike some others. Well, see what they’ve done to truck driving in canuckland. It doesn’t matter what industry they get into. Eventually it all ends up the same.

    It doesn’t have to be like this though. Most americans were indifferent to “skilled immigration” especially from “harmless” places like India until many (in tech) spent close to two decades with them (surrounded by sneaky hostile haters who smelled like they just took a dip into the ganges). Unfortunately we woke up when it was a little too late. The only silver lining to this is that H1B is a dirty word for most red pilled folks. I just wish more whites recognize how big a threat this “harmless” demographic poses to the well being of our people. Perhaps Unz would be kind enough to put his exemplary writing skills into this

  212. @anon

    None of which you wasted your time on, happily for both of us.

    • Replies: @anon
  213. peterAUS says:
    @CrazedIndiot

    I’ve heard Australia is slowly waking up to this “model minority” and has completely shuttered the 457 “high skilled immigration” visa that was primarily used by our “friends” from the land of kamasutra (and gang rape off late). Is that true?

    Yes and no.
    The 457 “visa is now closed to new applications”, correct, and the place IS slowly waking up.
    Still, the immigration IS going on. Lawyers, consultants, ways around and such.

    [MORE]

    ….I’m trying my best to awaken as many whites as I can about these “foreign talents” as it is…

    Good luck.

    I hear you. But, and a big BUT, isn’t that how business is supposed to operate? Capitalist society in general?
    Yes, I know, this isn’t either place or time to talk about that, but I just don’t buy, for a nanosecond, that the problem will be fixed unless we, somehow, try to address underlying issues.

    It, as it always has been, boils down to CHEAP LABOR. Simple two words that describe everything.
    Immigration has always been about that, in its heart.

    Indian/Asian engineer will work twice longer, for half a pay in tech. Fact.
    Now…if you were business owner and/or shareholder, what’s not to like?
    Even if you are a manager, supervisor, whatever. Those guys will always be more…how to put it…..manageable..than the locals. Always. Again, what’s not to like?

    Just recently I had, during a brief contract, exposure to such a thing, again. And it got, apparently, worse from just a couple of years ago.
    For example, you have a guy with tech Masters degree, from Western university, in his mid thirties, working for almost minimum wages. Any overtime, no problem. Any work, no problem. Any instruction given by a team leader, manager, he tries to do it 100 %.
    What’s not to like, then?

    Now, true, he, for cultural reasons, is NOT quite equal in delivery, as his Western counterpart, especially communication, customer services part etc. But, that’s what the team leader/manager is for.

    You simply can’t beat that from the team leader/manager/CEO/owner/shareholder perspective.
    And that’s all there is, really.

    Your choices are narrow. Become, as a tech, a team leader/manager….owner even better…shareholder the best.
    Or, sorry to say, change job/vocation. Go to sales/marketing, or something similar.
    Where language and culture win.
    Failing all that, the only way to keep employed is to accept worsening work conditions with less pay. True rat race to the bottom.
    Class war, mate. Dirty words for “right” side of political spectrum, Americans in particular. Free will.

    For THAT to change, well, it’s totally different conversation and, honestly, at the moment, just academic.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Wizard of Oz
  214. @CrazedIndiot

    Sadly, Australia doesn’t have a Silicon Valley where, as I understand it the main complaints about Indians stem from. But Australia does apparently have a considerably higher proportion of its population born in India than does the US. It is hard to take your fears about Indian impact on the US generally seriously when one looks up the figures – maybe now 1 per cent of the US population.

    I have no great experience of working with Indians though I have had plenty of well informed warnings about investing in India, but, thinking of them as immigrants, I tend to regard them as an offset to the approximately equal numbers of Chinese (including diaspora) in Australia and, also, as part of the keeping up of national average IQ and keeping down the average age. What needs to be added is that they come from a hugely various home population. I would need convincing that Sikhs, Rajputs, Brahmins, Tamils, Punjabis etc are going to gang up together against others whatever the stories of nepotism you can produce from Silicon Valley.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @CrazedIndiot
    , @Anon
    , @aba
  215. Anon[863] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ronnie

    I posted reference to the original article and, later, to this one as comment on a London Times article on the Harvard antidiscrimination litigation reprinted in another Murdoch paper. Only the first comment contained the word “Jew” or “Jewish” but neither comment was allowed through by the moderators. Maybe it has something to do with the Murdoch’s wrapping up sale of most of their businesses to Disney. Any other guesses?

    • Replies: @Ronnie
  216. peterAUS says:
    @peterAUS

    Just to complete the thought, so, no ambiguities re immigration.

    Yes, true, we have the “tribe” agenda re White societies, Western in particular.
    Yes, true, we have “prog” agenda re the same.
    And…hahaha….that’s where all conversations stop.

    There is another group too: business.
    That one, on “alt” sites, for…hehe…some reasons….people don’t discuss/dissect much. Naturally.
    Funny, a?

  217. peterAUS says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I have no great experience of working with Indians….

    with

    …I would need convincing that Sikhs, Rajputs, Brahmins, Tamils, Punjabis etc are going to gang up together against others whatever the stories of nepotism you can produce

    Makes sense.

    That’s fine. Those having experience in the former have no need for convincing. Tech people in particular, regardless of skillset/experience.

    True, they don’t “gang up”. They just work in their own ways, with related working conditions and pay. Interesting ways.

    • Replies: @CrazedIndiot
  218. @peterAUS

    Certainly my #215 in reply to CrazedIndiot doesn’t cover much of the ground. As you say, if you are an investor in a company employing lots of technically skilled people what’s not to like about them keeping costs down? Have you any idea whether my sanguine view of Australian immigration including a high proportion of (significantly) above average IQ ethnic Chinese and Indians is measurably right or wrong in expecting it to keep Australia safe for capitalists and reasonably smart at continuing to be productive and prosperous when coal and iron ore no longer do what gold and fine wool did for 19th century Australia?

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  219. @Heros

    The first two phenomena you mention are not ‘cheating’; they are test prep. The third example is obviously cheating – it’s just an SAT-version update of the Seinfeld “George’s IQ Test” storyline from the episode entitled “The Café” (1991).

    Kaplan (and other such products) is ‘pure’ test-prep – basically, doing extra, targeted homework that claims to be tailored to improving SAT scores. Kaplan sought the views of recent test-takers in a bid to refine his product – effectively presaging what anybody with half a brain should do (i.e., find recent test-takers, and see if there are consistent stories about particularly difficult questions: hard to do for high school, but very easy – and common – at university level).

    The second non-cheating thing (the fact that one SAT might have been a duplicate of an earlier international test) is the kind of thing that every diligent undergraduate should do if they are able… namely, to obtain as many past exam papers as possible, in an attempt to ‘forecast’ what questions are likely to appear on this year’s exam. If the exam is replicated word for word, bonus (so long as yu prepare… no use having the exam and then not preparing anyhow).

    It took me until 2nd year undergraduate to grok this study practice: it literally didn’t occur to me that academic staff would be so lazy that they would recycle exam papers (often repeating ‘key’ questions in their entirely – in multiple years). I reckon that single observation enabled me to be far better prepared, and to focus my study on ‘nailing’ the easy marks (which gave more time to write practice essays for bullshit hand-waving subjects).

    Later on, when I was tutoring… I always made sure to at least change the inputs to questions that yielded a quantitative answer (or for algebra problems, change the variables – e.g., for a specific form of Y=f(K,L; θ) find ∂Y/∂K instead of ∂Y/∂L … that single move wipes out more than half of copypasta students).

    The reason for this is straightforward: students who belong to ‘organised’ cultural groups (international students; ethnic groups) often pass on each year’s notes, assignments and so forth. If a student performed extremely well, they would often sell their assignments to the next cohort.

    I often got assignments returned that were obvious copy-pastes of a prior assignment: sometimes answering an entirely different question; sometimes referring to data that was not part of the current assignment.

    In one year (1996), for the first mid-term assignment, five students submitted assignments where the footer – on every page – contained the student ID and name of the student who had originally done the assignment two years prior: me.

    When I discovered this sort of shenanigans, the student would get zero for the assignment, with an exhortation not to do it again or they would be reported.

    Later on, as a private tutor (in Quant Finance; Econometric Theory; Mathematical Economics; Financial Engineering and so on – “squiggles“)… I would do the ‘quant’ bits of my students’ assignments and give them a ‘skeleton’ of the interpretation – the main objective was to get them ‘exam ready’ (under our system, it didn’t matter if a student got 100% for every assignment; if they got less than 85 on the exam you could not get a First for the subject). I also gave them guidance on getting copies of past exam papers, examining the papers for patterns (and identifying which questions carried the most weight, and where the biggest ‘bang for the buck’ was).

    Doing their assignments? Yeah, that was cheating, for sure. It also didn’t matter a damn, because the students who couldn’t get to an 85 on the exam were not going to get a First (which means no scholarship for further study).

    Guiding them on exam prep? Not cheating in the slightest. The past exams were in a public collection in the main library, precisely so that students could get them and practice.

    • Replies: @Heros
  220. utu says:

    We do not have good working hypothesis how does the sytem work that it can produce a consistent bias from year after year across many universities.

    We do not have data on application statistics and acceptance rate for whites and Jews. Harvard has acceptance rate of 5%

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ivy-league-harvard-yale-princeton-acceptance-rates-class-of-2021-2017-3

    but we do not know what is the breakdown by ethnicity. Is it possible that as many Jews as whites apply to Harvard? Or is it possible that Jews are accepted through early decisions via legacy and other channels?

    https://www.ivycoach.com/2022-ivy-league-admissions-statistics/
    In the Single Choice Early Action round, 6,630 students applied to Harvard in the hope of earning admission to its Class of 2022. Of these students, 964 got in. This marks a SCEA admit rate of 14.5%. Last year, for the Class of 2021, 6,443 students applied SCEA to Harvard and 938 got in.

    In the Regular Decision round, 36,119 students applied to Harvard’s Class of 2022. Of these students, 998 earned admission. This marks a Regular Decision acceptance rate of a mere 2.8%.

    Note that

    Of students admitted through Single Choice Early Action to Harvard, 13.9% identify as African American, 9.8% identify as Latino, and 1.8% identify as Native American / Native Hawaiian. 24.2% of SCEA admits are Asian Americans

    so the ethnic proportions are the same for both groups. But is it possible the 50% of the accepted 938 that is white might be dominated by Jews like 80%?

    The effect of legacy will be cumulative as along as Jews maintain overrepresentation. If 50% white graduates are Jewish year after year then eventually they will have to show up as 50% among legacy slots. In other words 25% Jewish rate guarantees 12.5% minimums Jewish rate just through legacy channel.

    I am writing this because I do not buy Ron Unz’s speculation along the line of low quality and ignorance of admission officers who supposedly are not Jewish. Also I do not buy that set-idenitfying stories like the ones about the holocausted grandmothers play role in the selection of ‘right’ candidates.

    I heard an anecdote of some researcher testing quality of electronic components like resistors and capacitors who discovered that the measured resistance and capacitance had almost Gaussian distributions except for the dip in the middle. Only after many fancy theories that he came up with to explain the the dip in middle did he learn that in the factory there was a quality control that selected components with higher specs for military applications. The moral of it is that we need an insider.

  221. anon[323] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    indeed i didn’t

  222. @Albion

    Most of these Asian students are the children of China’s elite being dump on our universities.

    It’s the same here in Australia.

    It’s a natural response to the very tight capital controls in China: the parents work their way to (relative) prosperity, but they also know that their wealth is constantly at risk if there is a power shift in the Chinese political system.

    Anyone who has [grand-]parents that were city-dwellers during the Mao years (and the tumultuous period after Mao’s death, with the intrigues around the Gang of Four and so on) would understand that wealth obtained by proximity to political power, comes with significantly higher risk.

    So powerful people send their main repository of exportable human capital (their kids) offshore. That also enables them to offshore some money – to buy the kid a house in Vancouver, Sydney, Melbourne or Auckland; to give the kid a stipend that’s a small integer multiple of average annual income in the destination country.

    And to funnel money from the Party and its senior apparatchiks, to political-influence campaigns within the destination country. (Bear in mind: the parents are still in the good graces of the Party hierarchy, and other groups that matter in China at present).

    The undoing will be that the kids get culturally Westernised (they’re being metabolically Westernised by neonatal practices – more on that below).

    Nothing fucks up political subterfuge worse than when your personnel (who are just “rich folks’ kids”)
    ⓐ don’t know that they’re part of the subterfuge; and
    ⓑ discover that being a relatively-high-income individual in the West enables a lifestyle that is only available to the very peak of the Chinese domestic power distribution.

    I mentioned the metabolic Westernisation of Yon Chinkee

    The big tell will be when Chinese obesity starts being a problem: it won’t be long. Give it another 10-15 years. It’s already a problem in urban China (although nowhere near as bad as in the urban West- yet).

    The Chinese obsession with importing baby formula shows that they are doing what our people did in the 80s – failing to properly nourish their newborns’ microbiome by tilting away from breastfeeding.

    You see, human breast milk contains specific sugars that are not found in the milk of other mammals; more interestingly, they are sugars that the baby cannot digest. Those compounds are in breast milk to nourish specific gut bacteria that are critical in the development of the baby’s immune system.

    China also leads the world in the rate of births by C-section (42% of births happen that way in China).

    C-section delivery also has deleterious effects on the neonatal microbiome – effects which persist into adolescence – unless specific care is taken to ensure that the newborn is swabbed with the vaginal (and fecal) material that presents during the birth (turns out that the messiness of natural childbirth – including the tendency of women to shit themselves as they give birth – may have an evolutionary usefulness). However Chinese C-section practice is ‘overly-sterile’ (i.e., they do it the way we used to do it in the 1970s).

    And lastly: Chinese medical practice with respect to antibiotics, is about where Western practice was in the 80s… i.e., prescribe it for everything from earache to cancer. So babies’s gastrointestinal microbiota get the pharma equivalent of a hand-grenade. The Western evidence shows that this fucks up the kid’s gut flora for years – and is linked (persuasively) to learning difficulties.

    They’re Westernising themselves to parity by repeating the mistakes we made in the 1970s, the ramifications of which we’re only really just starting to get a handle on.

    • Replies: @anon
  223. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:

    I think the fairest way forward is to allocate a fixed % for each group based on their share in the general population, i.e.

    6% Asian
    13% black
    16% hispanic
    1% native American and Pacific Islander
    2% Jew
    62% non-hispanic white

    Then within each group, admit strictly based on test scores and GPA. Fuck holistic admission, it’s a total waste of everyone’s time.

    In addition, all schools that receive federal funding of any kind should limit their foreign enrollment to no more than 2% of the incoming class.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @anon
  224. Joe862 says:
    @the grand wazoo

    Yeah, and they’re well on their way to becoming the laughing stock they deserve to be. People wondering why the jew with the fancy college degree doesn’t seem especially bright. jewffirmative action! Connections, nepotism, etc. It turns out they’re way worse than their predecessors and it won’t stay hidden. There seems to be a level of comfort with hypocrisy that most can’t grasp. How long before everyone who sees a resume from a Harvard jew assumes mediocrity with unreasonable expectations?

  225. Ron Unz says:
    @anon

    I think the fairest way forward is to allocate a fixed % for each group based on their share in the general population,

    Actually, there are very considerable problems with this approach, even beyond the ideological issue.

    I discussed it at length in my big Meritocracy article, and also proposed a new system, that as far as I’m aware was entirely original, but considerably superior, and actually applicable to various other selection systems as well. If you’re interested in the issue, you might want to read this:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/#problems-with-pure-diversity-and-pure-meritocracy

    • Replies: @anon
  226. anon[323] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    if i’m white, why should i care about these other groups?

    they’ve shown their hand

  227. @AaronB

    I do not think being an unhappy striver is an enviable state – it is generally the result of trauma and a penance one must undergo or a disease of the mind one must work through.

    It’s possible to be a striver and not be actually unhappy (or neurotic, which seems to me to be embedded in the excerpt I’ve blockquoted).

    I do think that striving almost requires a level of dissatisfaction with existing circumstances: the worst thing for striver-types is being satisfied with the status quo – because if you’re satisfied there’s no need to undertake the effort to move the ball.

    Lack of dissatisfaction – and/or the tendency to adapt to a circumstance that you should be able to overcome – strikes me as a significant limitation.

    The other day, in one of 3 moments of self-awareness in my life, I realised that my ‘ability’ to put up with things – a lack of dissatisfaction – was probably my worst weakness.

    I was telling my Mum that my youngest brother’s problem was that he simply waits for things to happen, rather than doing concrete things to try to change them… result: he’s 40, obese and unhealthy, in a stultifying relationship that he hates, with 3 kids by 2 mothers.

    In the telling, it struck me (and I said it out loud before I had finished thinking it): I tend to do the exact same thing.

    I don’t get the same consequences - because The Lovely is ‘wired’ to strive, so there is an ongoing source of discipline (if I didn’t make an effort while she did, then I would be a parasite).

    The more I thought about it, the more obvious it was: and the worse it was, by reference to a single example.

    When The Lovely and I faced a (brief, 6-week) period of adversity about a decade ago, I sort of processed it mentally, and thought “OK, this is our life now. Bugger.” and was sanguine about it.

    What did I actually do – or plan to do – to extricate ourselves? FUCK ALL. I wasn’t a deer in the headlights: I just was not concerned about whether or not the situation changed.

    By stark contrast – and to her credit, I think – The Lovely thought “I have to rebuild” and so she did: within six weeks she took a bureaucratic job at $60k below her previous salary, and within a year we were back to the status quo ante. (She has immense grit)

    (We actually credit that six-week period of unpleasantness as being the catalyst that made The Lovely go to the Bar… even though I had been pressing her to do so for over a decade).

    As I said to The Lovely the evening of my epiphany: if she had not been my partner, I would probably be living in a caravan park near somewhere with decent surf – probably happily.

    Her view is that being talented brings about obligations to perform – not for society’s sake, but to ensure that your parents aren’t ashamed of you (in her formulation nobody’s allowed too be ‘proud’ of anything – that’s too much like bragging).

    Humans are fucked-in-the-head: it’s only ever a question of the size and direction of fucked-in-the-head-ness.

    I can’t wait until we can upload out consciousness into a more robust substrate and “slip the surly bonds of Earth and dance through space on laughter-silver’d wings“.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @AaronB
  228. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kratoklastes

    The president of China makes only $26,000 a year, where does the average Chinese get $500k to put towards an EB-5 visa? Clearly the only ones who make it here are the wealthy, and China being such a corrupt country, no one can get rich without being corrupt, either by taking bribes or giving them. So it’s safe to say all the China kids in the US are children of China’s ultra corrupt business and political elite.

    There are a large number of such China kids in my kid’s high school. They speak Chinese to one another loudly during lunch, assemblies, in the hallway etc., and have the worst manners, esp. table manners. My kid says many of these kids are not at all bright, and are struggling in class, esp. in English and history but also math and science. In group projects they do virtually nothing, just glued to their phones all day. Our local library is swamped with China women and their babies. More on the way to invade our colleges.

    Why are these people in our country? Fucking Obama gave them 10 year tourist visas so now they don’t even need the EB5 to buy a house and live here. We need to revert it back to 3 month visas and end the EB5 visa scam. Trump won’t do it because Jared Kushner wants EB-5 investors to help prop up his family biz. Trump has done virtually nothing to end the mass legal immigration through various visa scams in the last 2 years, from H1b to OPT to EB5. He is another bought-and-paid-for GOP when it comes to big biz friendly policies.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Kratoklastes
  229. peterAUS says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Have you any idea whether my sanguine view of Australian immigration including a high proportion of (significantly) above average IQ ethnic Chinese and Indians is measurably right or wrong in expecting it to keep Australia safe for capitalists and reasonably smart at continuing to be productive and prosperous when coal and iron ore no longer do what gold and fine wool did for 19th century Australia?

    Actually I do have some ideas about it.

    It’s all about balance, as everything else in life.

    So, it is definitely right, and easy to measure if TPTBs want it, to have carefully controlled and managed “immigration including a high proportion of (significantly) above average IQ ethnic Chinese and Indians”.
    As everything else, again, Devil is in details.

    How many and what’s the tempo are some of those. More importantly, HOW that process is managed re the end result.
    Bottom line is simple: do we a the end have AUSTRALIANS or Indians and Chinese? Simple and the only important question there is.
    As it works now we, most of the time, at the end of the process have Indians and Chinese. Their way of LIFE. Not Aussies.

    At the end of this game as it’s played as we speak there are only two outcomes:
    Majority Asian country (yellow type). A mix of something which won’t have current Australian way of life. Say….40/60 % probability.

    It’s not about economy. It’s about way of life.
    Of those three players I mentioned above the first two understand that well. The third just doesn’t care.

  230. @John Gruskos

    blah blah blah … in a series of peace treaties

    You mean like the Fort Laramie Treaty? (Note: I’m talking here about the 1851 one, not the 1868 one – not that it matters, since the US government failed to honour either).

    Seriously – you can’t get away with bullshit like that anymore. The internet has a pretty robust error-eradication mechanism, and nonsense gets exposed very rapidly.

    Your assertion that most of the land of the modern US wasn’t stolen, is on a par with Zionists who assert that there was never a land called Palestine. It shows that you have contempt for your audience.

  231. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    I think you made a very good case for random selection. The key here though is the criteria for inner ring vs. outer ring. Will this be strictly academic based on test scores and GPA? The problem is no matter which combination you use — mix of AP scores, SAT II subject tests, SAT I, GPA, there will be lots of kids killing themselves to get into that inner ring, so that kind of defeats the purpose of using randomness to reduce pressure. Plus there will still be way more qualified kids than there are slots in the inner ring thanks to grade inflation and ever easier standardized tests, unless you start using criteria like math and science olympiads, intel science competitions etc., which takes us right back to holistic admission and all the pressure it exerts on kids.

    You could also have a lottery for kids who qualify for the inner ring, and those who don’t make it get another chance by being included in the outer ring lottery, but then that wouldn’t be fair to those kids because they’re much more qualified than the outer ring kids. In a way this resembles the Early Action vs. Regular Decision system we now have, except it’s random.

    Perhaps in the end the only real fair way that also reduces pressure is to put all qualified applicants in the outer ring and select 100% by lottery, say those with minimum 1450 SAT, 3.85 GPA, 700 in each SAT II subject tests, at least 5 AP exams of scores 5 and up (with more weight for the harder ones like AP Physics C, AP Calc BC, AP Euro, APUSH).

  232. anon[323] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    there was a Wall St Journal article several years ago that said there were about 90 new billionaires in China and almost all of them were higher ups in the Communist Party

    sounds like they just skim the profits of whoever is in business

  233. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @niceland

    You don’t have to be a subscriber to comment, just need to create a log in.

    They do censor the comments quite a bit. The NYTimes doesn’t believe in free speech the way Unz does.

    • Replies: @niceland
  234. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @A Simple Pseudonymic Handle

    I think that is a fair point. The data that we need is admission rate within each group, i.e. number of applicants vs. number accepted for each group. It could be that far more Jews and Asians applied than gentile whites. One thing for sure that will show how glaring the bias is for blacks and hispanics, as I’m sure their admit rates are far higher as a percentage of the number of applicants in their demo.

    I’m quite surprised the plaintiffs still haven’t asked for this data. But one thing’s for sure they’ll never provide separate data for Jews. It’ll all be buried in the numbers for “whites”.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @anon
  235. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    Maybe the correct solution is to let these institutions succeed or fail on their own merits?

    LOL that might turn out to be the wisest response. Let these pompous hypocrites do themselves in.

    I still remember in the late 90′s when Microsoft was all the rage, poised to take over the world. The justice department came down with a chainsaw and did nothing other than to tell them to draw an imaginary line between the 2 main divisions of Windows and Office. Then came the dot com meltdown followed by the internet companies and it all became much ado about nothing. Microsoft worked its own way to irrelevance.

    Hubris eventually does in those at the top. Sooner or later Harvard’s secret of admitting the most well-connected rather than the smartest will be exposed and employers will stop according their graduates preference in employment. In fact it’s already happening. Plenty of Harvard liberal arts grads can’t find jobs while 2nd string state college CS grads from San Jose State or Cal Poly are getting paid $150k to work in SV. That’s why the libs had to force their way in through the diversity industry after the Obama admin began to wind down. Where else can a Harvard African Studies major find dignified employment these days other than as Director of Diversity at Google?

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  236. @Ron Unz

    With all due respect and playing the devil’s advocate here. Reading articles here at UR about the inordinate Jewish influence in the American body politic and especially ME foreign policy, including brutal wars at the behest of Jewish groups, the holocaust industry and the like, is it possible to invoke similar explanations provided here for Jewish enrollment in elite universities? I doubt that ignorance in either case would explain or excuse the blatant skews described. By the way, I have taken refuge at UR from Counterpunch in admiration of the uncommon courage shown by the exposes of yours and other writers on subjects that have been taboo for so long in the MSM. Long may this continue, barring legislation that gags and/or criminalizes this kind of much needed writing.

  237. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Or had that merely been the excuse used to advance a policy that eliminated the majority of white Gentiles, their primary ethnic competitors? With the Jewish population numbering merely 2%, there was an obvious limit as to how many elite college slots they themselves could possibly fill, but if enough other groups were also brought in, then Gentile numbers could easily be reduced to low levels, despite the fact that they constituted the bulk of the national population.

    That’s interesting, I didn’t think of that. White gentiles will also provide much bigger academic competition to the Jews than blacks and hispanics, that explains the overwhelming preference for white gentile athletes, while preference among the asian group is for asian females who want to major in the humanities, i.e. not the brightest asians.

    • Agree: Sean
  238. @Kratoklastes

    I suppose one is fortunate to have an interest in how the smartest brains can be disciplined or otherwise helped to optimise their host’s performance. You have had interesting things to say from your experience including teaching. Have you come to a view about what may best be done to get the best out of the bright kid, very likely well under the average age of his class, who learns whatever is served up in black and white areas like maths, sciences and foreign (including ancient) languages so fast that he is never in danger of getting – in Anglo-Australian university terms – less than a decent second class honours degree. He may not be a natural politician or people person but he knows that he shouldn’t show off by ostentatiously making every mark a thrust for the winning post so tends to cruise. What’s to be done?

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  239. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ronnie

    Most of the Chinese I have spoken to do not understand that it is not the whites but maybe the Jews who are keeping them out.

    Maybe they get it, just too afraid to say it like most goyims. Also the lawsuit is funded by Edward Blum, who happens to be Jewish. Not sure if he’s as courageous and introspective as Unz.

  240. Caruthers says:

    I seem to recall once reading that so-called half-Jews are even more accomplished, per capita, than “full” Jews. Certainly there are many highly accomplished half-Jews, and, given the Jewish propensity to in-marry, the total number of half-Jews must have been tiny relative to the size of the Jewish population until perhaps the last couple of decades.

  241. Demi says:
    @Greg Bacon

    Yes, the graphs say it all and your comment spot on.

  242. If you wish to crow about the Harvard trial, so be it, your article was surely one of the major causes. Considering the lack of anything approaching a smoking gun after a week of trial and a year of Deep Proctology on their admissions, the fiesta might be premature and your article might turn out to be calumny, but whatever. We will see what happens in the rest of the trial. The people running Harvard admission have already been deposed to a length of over 1000 pages, turned over their emails and been put on the witness stand for a week without much effect and no embarrassing disclosures as yet regarding Asians. For an informed analysis of the statistical dispute between the two sides’ experts, search my postings for the word “nothingburger”.

    That’s all separate from the Jewish matter. The defamation you continue to direct at Ms Baytch is pathetic misdirection given the number of times you have been asked to address her replication of your surname method on the Harvard (Princeton, Stanford, etc) public and private student directories and alumni lists. Number of responses to that (not the Crimson 9.5% survey) still stands at 0.00.

    Similarly, Jews were over one-quarter of the top students in the Physics Olympiad from 1986 to 1997, but have fallen to just 5 percent over the last decade, a result which must surely send Richard Feynman spinning in his grave.

    In fact, Jews constitute 50 to 70 percent of the white students who wonthe US Physics Olympiad in the past decade and in the 2010′s.

    http://ipho-unofficial.org/countries/USA/individual

    Both the past-decade and 2010s groups are the same set of 10 students with non-Asian names, of whom I identify the presumed ethnic Jews with italics and potential Jews (ambiguous surnames) with a question mark :

    Busis, Bogorad, Bourzutschky?, Winer, Zbarsky, Schneider?, Sadun, Spieglan, Field, Oreman

    Of course it could be that Field is an anglicization of Feld, in which case the Jewish fraction might be as high as 80 percent. Let’s say 50 percent to be conservative.

    Similar problems exist in many of your other counts on these small data sets, the above is just to illustrate the point that there may not be any big decline of Jews in relation to white non-Jews. Both groups are totally displaced by Asians on the science contests. That displacement may be relevant to claims of Asian discrimination, but if there is no “collapse” of Jews versus Gentile whites on top-level achievement, that undercuts some of your arguments about what the Harvard population should look like.

    Since you have never acknowledged, much less answered, Ms Baytch’s counting of the Harvard, Princeton etc student directories using your surname method —- you misdirect from that by addressing only the Crimson survey, which was not her main argument —- I’ll draw the obvious inference here (other than you avoiding the point) for anyone interested. Surname counting of the Harvard undergraduate population gives, according to N.B., a fairly low estimate of the number of Jews, close to your NMS estimates. This means that if the true number of Jews is higher (like 11-14 percent as in the Brandeis sociologists’ survey with a broad definition of Jewishness, or the ridiculous 25 percent Hillel number) it indicates that Jewish high achievers today are largely immigrants with a different population of non-classic surnames and you probably undercounted Jews on the NMS lists by a similar factor of 2-4.

    More defamation of Baytch or others as silly, partisan, Jewish hive-mind swarming berserkers is obviously not an answer to any of her (or my) calculations. We’ll see what you do or don’t come up with this time.

    • Replies: @rec1man
    , @Sean
    , @Sean
  243. Druid says:
    @the grand wazoo

    White peoare either very stupid or very naive. Jews have been screwing white europeans for centuries and whites still don’t learn

    • Replies: @anon
  244. This is an astounding indictment of the Anglo elites who have not only ruined the future career, economic and family formation prospects of their own descendants but also condemned them to an assured future of violent confrontation with rising ethnic competition.

    Of course all the other non-Anglo White races are equally condemned to that bleak future but the fact the Anglos willingly punish their own is an extraordinary fact of their nature.

    Affirmative Action was a regular topic of our conversations, and I would occasionally note how odd America was in that regard. No other example came to mind in which an ethnic group had established a legalized system of racial discrimination against its own members, while similar sorts of systems aimed at excluding or disadvantaging rival ethnic groups were all too common in world history.

    The only other examples are contemporary being every other White nation. Certainly Australia, Canada, Britain and New Zealand all have established systems “of racial discrimination against its own members”. Not only in terms of education but also occupation in both commercial and public spheres and even have laws prohibiting the its own members from vocalising their objections on pain pain being charged under various racial discrimination legislation.

    Once gain, kudos to you, Ron. This is an outstanding work for which I sincerely thank you.

  245. Heros says:
    @Kratoklastes

    “Kaplan sought the views of recent test-takers in a bid to refine his product “

    No, (((Kaplan))) built a database of test questions that he used to prep flagging jewish students. It was a racial thing from the beginning. I once read a thorough analysis of what he had been doing, but I can no longer find it, likely it has been memory-hole’d. That it later became a cash-generating handbook available to goyim too is not issue.

    The second article I linked to, from 2018, showed how the SAT test was a copy of one from 2017 and the students knew exactly what questions they were going to ask. We know this goes on all the time in all schools, elite or trade school, or even Microsoft or Oracle certifications. Donna Brazille famously got caught passing the 2016 election debate questions off to Hillary Clinton.

    To claim that no jews could ever have worked together to cheat the SAT and other tests would be preposterous. I merely linked to the first three articles from a ddgo query, there is loads of evidence if one is curious enough to look deeper into it. For some reasons jews cannot conduct these kinds of queries, whether it be scholastic cheating, 9/11 or the holohoax.

    Once again, the jews were caught with their fingers in the till. That so many closet Talmudists posting on unz.com try to ignore and cover for their own chosen tribe’s actions is merely more proof of their complete incompatibility of with the other races of humans.

  246. Anonymous[155] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    It could be that far more Jews and Asians applied than gentile whites.

    No doubt – on a per capita basis – but we’re not talking about lottery and let’s not forget that the Jews are only 2% of the US population. That makes them 3 times less numerous than the Asians and 31 times less numerous than the whites.

    Bottom line is that their High School achievement results can’t even begin to explain this massive over-representation across the Ivy League.

    But one thing’s for sure they’ll never provide separate data for Jews. It’ll all be buried in the numbers for “whites”.

    Yep.

  247. anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    I think that is a fair point. The data that we need is admission rate within each group, i.e. number of applicants vs. number accepted for each group. It could be that far more Jews and Asians applied than gentile whites.

    according to the data Unz was able to glean from the National Merit program there are 10 times as many Ivy League qualified whites as qualified jews so even if whites only applied at half the rate it would still be a 5 to 1 ratio. There really is no way to explain what’s going on other than extreme favoritism towards jews and extreme discrimination against whites.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @academic gossip
  248. anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @Druid

    i think the problem is that whites are too trusting

    also they’ve been bludgeoned by the media into believing that looking out for their own group interests would be racist and they assume other groups believe the same

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  249. @anon

    ” LOL that might turn out to be the wisest response. Let these pompous hypocrites do themselves in.”

    I believe so. There is a world of difference between good, sound reason and reasons that sound good.

    I like the rest of your comment also.

  250. niceland says:
    @anon

    Thanks

    My short visit to the NYT web was to check if the “Jewish” angle of the matter is getting any attention. Or meritocracy for that matter. Word search for “jew” in two comment sections (over 2000 comments) didn’t reveal much.

    The feeling I got was the discussion is mostly about minority oppression and perhaps meritocracy for Asians…

    And the article mentioning Mr. Unz and linking his article doesn’t have any comments. Linking such explosive material and website like unz.com – it is probably best to close off the comment section all together. Safety reason perhaps?

    • Replies: @anon
  251. Anonymous[155] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Excellent point.

    The most aggressively clannish group in the country worked hard to switch off their host’s natural in-group solidarity and survival instinct.

    This will backfire badly.

  252. Ronnie says:
    @Anon

    Unless you are saying something complementary, a remark about Jews will not usually get through. The staff are either Jewish or frightened into submission.

    For example, most of the recipes in the NY Times ask for Kosher salt in the list of ingredients. I sometimes write in to ask Why Kosher Salt ? or something similar. My remarks are rarely published. It seems that the more actively Jewish chefs only use Kosher salt and perhaps many non-Jewish contributors think that they are pleasing the Jews by asking for Kosher salt in their recipes, and will be asked to contribute again. It is a very pervasive phenomenon. Most criticism of the Tribe is actively screened out.

    I hope that Ron’s brilliant revelation of the Jewish load at Harvard will gradually see the light of day but the MSM will try to ignore it. It was already mentioned in the data, although delicately swathed, in Ron’s original article “The Myth of American Meritocracy” published in 2012. The MSM quoted Ron’s data about discrimination against Asians but ignored the discrimination against non-Jewish whites. The MSM ignore anything remotely critical of Jews so the Harvard Jewish issue has not been seriously discussed since their allocation was briefly reduced to 16% in 1923.

    • Replies: @Anon
  253. @peterAUS

    Hahaha

    That was wicked peter. These Indians never cease to amaze me with their passive aggressive come-ons and their puffed up sense of entitlement. This is exactly the same attitude of, what I call as a “studied cool” attitude that makes them appear as arrogant pricks. They think they are at the top of their “game” and we are mostly stupid and undeserving, and deserve to be blown away like so much chaff

    try to argue with any Indian and see how it goes. It’ll leave you traumatized for a couple of hours if not the whole day or two.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Joe862
  254. anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @niceland

    Word search for “jew” in two comment sections (over 2000 comments) didn’t reveal much.

    if i search some name in the news + “jew” on Startpage or DuckDuckGo lately there is often some link to discrimination or racism in the top 10 or 20 results

    purely coincidental i’m sure and certainly not a social engineering tipoff that govt/big brother is watching you

  255. @Wizard of Oz

    For wizard of Oz, I present you this:

    https://cis.org/North/H4s-Data-Shows-MirrorLike-Strong-Biases-H1B-Males-and-Indians

    and this

    https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/ofccp/ofccp20170118-0

    and this

    https://qz.com/india/889524/the-us-says-oracle-is-encouraging-indians-to-hire-others-indians-and-its-killing-diversity/

    and this

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/08/16/h-1b-indian-outsourcing-firm-discriminates-against-non-indian-workers-games-u-s-visa-system-lawsuit/

    and this

    https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/cisco-cited-for-bias-against-us-workers

    Remember this is just the tip of the iceberg. A lot of desi bodyshops are feeling a bit of heat in their loot and remit schemes which is why they are suing the USCIS under a single umbrella (talk about chutzpah!!). And as far as the big ones are concerned, TCS and Infosys are facing multiple lawsuits. TCS had already lost a case against epic systems in MI wherein they literally stole the code base they were supposed to maintain and created a new competing product out of it. And this is one of the more reputed Indians firms I’ve heard.

    Most citizens woke up a little too late when most of these earlier H1B gas lighting morons are in positions of power in a lot of companies. They don’t just discriminate against non-Indians, you’ve gotta be the “right” kinda Indian if you happen to come across a “casteist” one (https://quora.com/Is-there-any-bias-among-Indians-of-hiring-other-Indian-workers-in-the-IT-industry)

    Gone are the days when we had Indians like Bose (the speaker guy). Very few FOB indians want to be like him anymore. They see us as an Inferior people who shouldn’t be bothered with except while swindling or chasing p****. I’ve worked with them for close to 13 years and I ain’t speaking this lightly (nor is this just mere banter).

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  256. anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @CrazedIndiot

    try to argue with any Indian and see how it goes. It’ll leave you traumatized for a couple of hours if not the whole day or two.

    if what you say is true, you should be laughing at them

  257. Joe862 says:
    @CrazedIndiot

    It’s kind of mind blowing to me how people from impoverished dumps like india don’t recognize the pattern. They’re highly motivated because they come from someplace where there is a lot of brutal poverty and they don’t want to end up that way. The reason india is so bad is that Indians are largely corrupt and stupid. Being from a culture that that has never gotten off the ground is nothing to be proud of. Of course they’ll have the same issues after a few generations in the US. It’s so blindingly obvious.

  258. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:

    Jewish dominance in the Ivy League from its administration to faculty to student body is the main reason behind academia’s turn to the hard left in the last 2 decades. More than any other institution, Harvard set the tone for academia, whatever Harvard does, all other schools follow. Whoever controls Harvard controls the country, and Jews know it. They’ve fought hard to gain this total control from the WASPs, and they are not about to let go anytime soon, certainly not to a bunch of scrappy upstarts from Asia, the new greasy grind Barbarians at the gate.

    But Jews have a tendency to overplay their hands thanks to their insatiable greed and lust, for money, power, everything. And after the 16 disastrous years of Bushobama, Harvard has more than lost its luster. The rise of Silicon Valley supplanting the draw of Wall Street, Capitol Hill and the legal profession for our nation’s top talents further diminished the Ivy League’s stature. Two years ago Stanford overtook Harvard as the most competitive school in the country, this year they widened their lead. State school grads in STEM esp. CS are now making far more money than Harvard grads, and starting their own billion dollar companies. If you look at a list of who’s who in SV and where they went to school, they are overwhelmingly graduates of state schools, including the 2 founders of Google.

    The Ivies are working themselves into irrelevance with their arrogance and leftism. Let them go dig their own graves.

  259. rec1man says:
    @academic gossip

    2018 – Gopal Goel – Gold Medal = North Indian Merchant
    2017 – Shreyas Balaji – Gold Medal = Tamil Brahmin
    2017 – Sanjay Raman – Silver Medal = Tamil Brahmin
    2016 – Abhijit Krishnan – Gold Medal = Tamil Brahmin
    2016 – Srijon Mukherji – Silver Medal = Bengali Brahmin
    2015 – Saranesh Premababu – Gold Medal – Telugu Dravidian
    2014 – Vikram Sundar – Gold Medal – Tamil Brahmin
    2010 – Anand Oza – Silver Medal – Gujarati Brahmin
    2009 – Anand Natarajan – Gold Medak – Tamil Brahmin

    • Replies: @academic gossip
  260. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:

    Another reason the elite colleges are losing their draw to the nation’s best (esp. non-Jewish whites) is their need-based aid policy, which basically makes them unaffordable to upper middle class families earning between $180k-$300k. Most of these families will get next to nothing in need based aid, but also cannot afford the $70k a year tuition for 4 years for 1 kid(many have multiple kids). As such, these schools overwhelmingly draw their students from either the very rich or the very poor. Neither of these groups produce the nation’s top talents in STEM. They tend to major in social sciences or the humanities. Most of the STEM talents come from the middle class, esp. upper middle class, as children of engineers, doctors, research scientists, math & science teachers.

    Instead of using their rich endowment funds to provide generous aid to all students, these schools would rather use their funds to buy talent in award winning faculty to boost their prestige, the majority of whom went to school elsewhere. Which is why Harvard hasn’t had a home grown Nobel laureate in the sciences for over 50 years. These famous professors rarely teach undergrads, only grad students and do research, while Harvard recruits mostly mediocre children of the well-connected and good little hypocrites in the undergrad so they can go on to lucrative careers in law, business and politics then contribute generously to their endowment, so they can buy more prestige by hiring famous professors. It’s been their recipe for success for the last 50 years.

    But now that (state school graduated) geeks are inheriting the earth, this recipe is losing its luster.

    • Replies: @anon
  261. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    according to the data Unz was able to glean from the National Merit program there are 10 times as many Ivy League qualified whites as qualified jews so even if whites only applied at half the rate it would still be a 5 to 1 ratio. There really is no way to explain what’s going on other than extreme favoritism towards jews and extreme discrimination against whites.

    I suspect you are right but the only way to prove that is by getting actual data, but Harvard will never release acceptance data pertaining to Jews vs. gentiles. It’s their top secret.

    All the top white kids in my kids’ school don’t even bother applying to Harvard (or any Ivy) anymore, my kids won’t either, even though they are high performing kids. Most of them either apply to MIT, Stanford, and end up at the state flagship. Stanford only wants athletes, or children of tech royalty like Steve Jobs and Bill Gates’ kids. The only people who apply to Ivies are Jews(mostly legacies), blacks, hispanics and Asians. The only 2 kids I’ve heard of who got accepted all these years were a hispanic male and an asian female.

  262. Anon[384] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ronnie

    Kosher salt simply means salt without added iodine. I don’t know all other cases, but the iodine makes pickles cloudy and somewhat gross. There is nothing Kosher or Jewish in that ‘kosher salt’; if anything, it should have been called Roman salt, since we invented salt mining.

    It’s not Jews’ fault that the majority is made of imbeciles who actively avoid ‘sciency’ words. It’s not Jews’ fault that Americans hate Catholicism, and Rome in general. Enjoy imbecility!

    • Replies: @Ronnie
    , @Anon
  263. @CrazedIndiot

    I don’t think we have a comparable problem in Australia though abusive Sikh and other dowry hungry Indian husbands have recently been in our news. And I have decided to be particularly wary about the Indian bids for some land I own on the outskirts of a growing city though a big enough deposit is probably sufficient protection. But I found your Quora link fascinating. I have indeed already forwarded it to others because it is so well written, interesting and convincing.

    I have stopped repeating my old mantra in favour of small minorities since I discovered how small the Jewish minority was in 1930s Germany (though I suppose I could have stuck to “lots of small minorities”). Unless you actually want to change your country quickly and in a big way I suppose it makes sense to try and stop the immigration of whole tribes or self sufficiently large masses of co-ethnics who will not need to assimilate even perhaps in their children’s generation. It sounds as though the worship of “diversity” should perhaps be turned into a weapon forcing the Indian recruiters for American companies to avoid the regional and caste preferences they allow to dominate.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  264. @rec1man

    Right. Oversupply of Indian high ability subgroups and undersupply of Koreans (lately) among the Asian contest winners.

    • Replies: @anon
  265. denk says:
    @Ronnie

    Most of the Chinese I have spoken to do not understand that it is not the whites but maybe the Jews who are keeping them out.

    Really ?

    From what I gather, practically all of the rabid sinophobes are whites, such as JOsh Barnes here.

    In fact, the 5lies are at the forefront of a massive anti Chinese campaign right now.
    In education, they’r trying to kill off Chinese access to latest technology.
    There are plans to bar Chinese from studying in Unis and working on high tech careers .

    https://thediplomat.com/2018/10/is-the-golden-age-of-chinese-studying-abroad-at-an-end/

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
    , @Sean
  266. dearieme says:
    @Anon

    “your nieces could not have been accepted into an American Ivy League college with just one A level in English”: but that’s not remotely what he said.

    • Replies: @Anon
  267. AaronB says:
    @Kratoklastes

    You are correct and perceptive when you say striving requires a level of dissatisfaction. This fact doesn’t get enough attention and it raises some interesting questions about why the West achieved so much.

    The attitude you are describing is a typically Western one – where unhappiness is felt as good, because it spurs you on to greater heights. However, this is question begging, and circular reasoning.

    What is the point of life if not to be happy?

    Your attitude seems to have missed the point about life, and seems to me one of the main reasons Western culture has not been able to produce a way of life that makes people genuinely content and happy for some time, which has led directly to the current malaise, the detection of men of intelligence and sensitivity (elites), and the immigration crisis.

    Without meaning to give offense, it is your attitude that must be overcome for a return to health :)

    Now, there is a kind of activity that isn’t striving, that doesn’t come from a place of lack and unhappiness, but is the overflow of a feeling of fullness, happiness, and completion, of abundance and gratitude towards life.

    Goethe wrote some interesting things about this “good” kind of activity, which he distinguished from the “bad” kind of striving that has characterized the West.

    This kind of activity has been rare in the West since the modern period began, but used to be more common, and is the default activity for Eastern cultures.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Kratoklastes
  268. renfro says:

    In Admissions, Harvard Favors Those Who Fund It, Internal Emails Show

    In one 2013 email headlined “My Hero,” former Kennedy School Dean Ellwood thanked Harvard’s dean of admissions for his help accepting a set of students with very particular qualifications. “[Redacted] and [redacted] are all big wins. [Redacted] has already committed to a building.”

    John M. Hughes, a lawyer for Students for Fair Admissions — the anti-affirmative action group suing the College over its race-conscious admissions policies — introduced the emails in a bid to prove Harvard unfairly prefers the wealthy and well-connected. Hughes read each messsage aloud before grilling the College’s long-serving Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid William R. Fitzsimmons ’67 on their contents.

    The handful of emails — most of them sent between administrators and admissions officers — hint at the College’s behind-the-scenes fondness for applicants whose admission yields certain practical perks. Hughes referenced the emails as he quizzed Fitzsimmons on the “Dean’s Interest List,” a special and confidential list of applicants Harvard compiles every admissions cycle. Though the University closely guards the details, applicants on that list are often related to or of interest to top donors — and court filings show list members benefit from a significantly inflated acceptance rate.
    In one 2013 email headlined “My Hero,” former Dean of the Harvard Kennedy School David T. Ellwood ’75 thanked Fitzsimmons for his help admitting a set of students with very particular qualifications.

    “Once again you have done wonders. I am simply thrilled about the folks you were able to admit,” Ellwood wrote in the email. “[Redacted] and [redacted] are all big wins. [Redacted] has already committed to a building.”

    In a separate email Hughes presented, Associate Vice President for Alumni Affairs and Development Roger P. Cheever ’67 reflected on the pros and cons of another Harvard hopeful. This student’s family at one point donated $8.7 million to the University — but more recent years had proven “challenging,”

    Cheever wrote.

    “[Redacted] was a devoted [redacted] Chair and generous donor,” Cheever’s email reads. “Going forward, I don’t see a significant opportunity for further major gifts. [Redacted] had an art collection which conceivably could come our way.”

    Cheever closed the email by noting he would “call it a 2” — an apparent attempt to score the applicant-and-donation package. After Hughes asked Fitzsimmons to explain the number, the dean said the “2” ranking meant the candidate would receive a boost in the admissions process.

    continue at…..https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2018/10/18/day-three-harvard-admissions-trial/heever

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Wizard of Oz
    , @utu
    , @anon
  269. peterAUS says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    ….Unless you actually want to change your country quickly and in a big way I suppose it makes sense to try and stop the immigration of whole tribes or self sufficiently large masses of co-ethnics who will not need to assimilate even perhaps in their children’s generation. ….

    Precisely.

    At the moment that changing process is going on. Not as fast as some players would want, but it IS going on.
    I guess you are aware that there are self-contained communities in Australia where plenty of people simply do not speak English.WHEN those communities become big, numerous, enough, well…..Democracy and such. One person, one vote. Local governing bodies etc.

    Stopping the process..hehe….I’d like to see how. If any politician tries that I can so easily visualize what’s going to happen.

    Reversing the process…oh my.

    Interesting times.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  270. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @denk

    There are plans to bar Chinese from studying in Unis and working on high tech careers .

    Sounds like a good plan. I hope they succeed. It’s time to stop issuing any kind of visa to Chinese and Indian nationals. They are invading the USA and killing us with their incompatible cultures of dishonesty, selfishness, greed, nepotism, clannishness and ruthlessness. We already have such a (((tribe))) in the US, and they’ve done enough damage to us for the last 50 years, we don’t need more.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @denk
  271. peterAUS says:
    @AaronB

    There is a catch there. A BIG one.

    Those “unhappy” have been more successful in dishing violence. All empires…all conquerors.

    So, it’s very good to have

    ….overflow of a feeling of fullness, happiness, and completion, of abundance and gratitude towards life.

    until people with better weapons, tactics and numbers come to visit you.

    Good to say

    This kind of activity has been rare in the West since the modern period began, but used to be more common, and is the default activity for Eastern cultures.

    Modern period->colonization.

    B.T.W. Does that apply to Huns and Mongols too?
    Building of Chinese empire? Building and maintaining of Japanese society?

    I guess the bottom line is: speak softly and carry a big stick. Emphasis on stick part. Now…the question is how to be happy, complete etc. and still able to carry, with skill, that stick?

    So, as for this:

    Without meaning to give offense, it is your attitude that must be overcome for a return to health

    sure. Islamists first. Then Chinese. Then Russians. Actually all nuclear powers.
    USA the last.
    I mean…haha…if you were, say, Putin, would you do that? “Let’s be friends, happy…blah…blah..we’ll do it first. Get rid of all our nuclear weapons. Then you”.
    Funny, a?

    Cain and Abel, mate.
    Cain and Abel

    • Replies: @AaronB
  272. anon[169] • Disclaimer says:
    @academic gossip

    Oversupply of Indian high ability subgroups………among the Asian contest winners.

    hats off to them but why should we allow their import?

  273. anon[169] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Instead of using their rich endowment funds to provide generous aid to all students, these schools would rather use their funds to buy talent in award winning faculty to boost their prestige, the majority of whom went to school elsewhere.

    how about these schools just charge each student the same price and let the poor ones find support or subsidies in the private sector?

    also, if they were to provide “generous aid to all students” then clearly the tuition is overpriced

  274. @peterAUS

    I am not at all sure that I can guess which communities of non English speakers you are referring to. Can you please elaborate – with some reference to localities and numbers to give a sense of the importance.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  275. anon[169] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    “[Redacted] was a devoted [redacted] Chair and generous donor,” Cheever’s email reads. “Going forward, I don’t see a significant opportunity for further major gifts. [Redacted] had an art collection which conceivably could come our way.”

    lol

  276. AaronB says:
    @peterAUS

    I agree, its a problem. Unhappy dissatisfied people tend to try and conquer others and conquer nature.

    Certainly I apply this to other cultures as well, including Asian ones.

    I am wondering if it’s possible to develop enough strength to defend oneself without having to become an intense striver oneself.

    I don’t yet know what the solution, and in truth there may be no solution, and we may not need a solution because the unhappy striver civilizations all implode after about 250 years, suggesting its not sustainable.

    The West colonized the rest of the world, but is now destroying itself. So the striving phenomena seems to be self limiting.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  277. anon[169] • Disclaimer says:
    @denk

    From what I gather, practically all of the rabid sinophobes are whites, such as JOsh Barnes here.

    i generally like Chinese because they seem to be decent people but just stop with these silly and insulting words. We’re not sinophobes just because we don’t want our country overrun and culture destroyed any more than the mainland Chinese preventing the same would be caucasophobes.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @denk
  278. @anon

    Do take a long view. Isn’t it time that you had a Gothic, or maybe a Lombard emperor if you can’t wait for the Franks to get their act together?

  279. @renfro

    A couple of years ago a successful Harvard alumnus of my acquaintance, with four bright children, was outraged when told that it would cost him $250,000 to ensure a place for one of them who is now at another one of the top Ivies.

    • Replies: @renfro
  280. Sean says:
    @denk

    , they’r trying to kill off Chinese access to latest technology

    China’s access. China is a separate country.

    • Replies: @denk
  281. Anonymous[155] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Exactly.

  282. peterAUS says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I am not at all sure that I can guess which communities of non English speakers you are referring to.

    Really?
    O.K.

    Can you please elaborate – with some reference to localities and numbers to give a sense of the importance.

    Of course I can, with ease.I just don’t want to.

    I can suggest something, though:
    Maybe you can have a quiet word with a mate of yours.
    You could use just a fraction of resources at your (group) disposal and you’ll have it in…say….month, tops. A proper report, with all the maps, charts, diagrams and such.

    Can’t happen, of course. Would be insensitive, racist even. A career, reputation killer.

    As for importance, depends on a viewpoint.
    Some people just love it. More is merrier. Keyword “more”. Numbers. Demographics.

    Good thing, we aren’t, yet, at France or UK level, no go zones and such.
    In time, though……

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  283. utu says:
    @renfro

    That’s where we should look for the answer to the question how Jews get 50% of slots allocated to all whites (including Jews).

    In my comment #221 I pointed out to two channels of selection:

    Single Choice Early Action and Regular Decision that award places in 50/50 ratio but the first one has acceptance rate of 14.5% while the other has acceptance rate of 2.8% only.

    My hypothesis is that in the Single Choice Early Action Jews have advantage that even w/o shenanigans they may get at least 25% of the slots awarded to whites and in the Regular Decision stage they will get 9% randomly on merit. I use 9% instead of Ron Unz’s 6% because I use scaling 6/(70-6)=9. This gives us 25%+9%=34% of slots assigned to whites. This leaves us with the remaining 17% that need to be explained. So in case of Harvard out of 2000 accepted there are 500 whites and 500 and 0.17*1000=170 Jews were accepted because of some special preferential mechanism.

    I suspect that the 17% actually gets in the Single Choice Early Action stage on top of the 25%.

  284. peterAUS says:
    @AaronB

    Agree.

    Especially with:

    The West colonized the rest of the world, but is now destroying itself. So the striving phenomena seems to be self limiting.

    and

    … in truth there may be no solution…

    As for

    ….we may not need a solution because the unhappy striver civilizations all implode after about 250 years, suggesting its not sustainable…

    Oppenheimer changed that rule. The imploding could be terminal on global scale.

    Dem Joos and their poking at atom.

    And:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_virus_retention_controversy#WHO_2018_position

    Just two (friendly) superpowers only. Just in case……….

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @AaronB
  285. Sean says:
    @academic gossip

    She may not be silly, but she is partisan in a way that Ron is not.

    That’s all separate from the Jewish matter

    Only if an Asian quota is being enforced without reference to its effect on Jewish enrollment.

    That displacement may be relevant to claims of Asian discrimination, but if there is no “collapse” of Jews versus Gentile whites on top-level achievement, that undercuts some of your arguments about what the Harvard population should look like.

    The court case is all about Asians. No one claims Jews are underrepresented, so it seems likely they are the beneficiaries of any Asian quota.

    For an informed analysis of the statistical dispute between the two sides’ experts, search my postings for the word “nothingburger”.

    If it was argued between three sides’ experts …, but that could never happen.

  286. @anon

    The president of China makes only $26,000 a year, where does the average Chinese get $500k to put towards an EB-5 visa?

    You’re assuming that Xi’s only income is his salary. That’s not a sensible assumption.

    One very commonly observed feature of politics is that politicians retire with vastly more accumulated wealth than can be explained by their salaries (assuming standard levels of savings rates and investment return).

    And no, the ‘average’ Chinee is not sending little Xuiying or Wei to a western college or university – any more than the average Saudi is sending little Achmed bin Mohammed to Eton.

    It’s absolutely true that most wealthy Chinese in China are exploiting their connection to the Party in order to enrich themselves. Much the same as most Russian oligarchs were recipients of extraordinary ‘luck’ during the period immediately following the Soviet collapse.

    How that differs from a very large proportion of US ‘entrepreneurs’ escapes me – for my money, a corrupt Party official is orders of magnitude less vile than the CEO of Raytheon (or any of the other Todeskrameren who make their money selling child-killing apparatus to the US Death Machine).

    Honoré de Balzac nailed it:

    Le secret des grandes fortunes sans cause apparente est un crime oublié

    The secret (behind) great fortunes without apparent cause, is a forgotten crime.

    This has been misquoted as “Behind every great fortune there is a great crime” – which sounds like it might be too sweeping a generalisation, but is a very useful rule of thumb. Ask yourself how many billionaires get to the ’3 comma club’ with no lobbying, finagling, or government assistance: the answer is zero.

    OK, maybe it’s not quite zero… my fortune (over one hundred trillion dollars) was obtained without any government assistance. (3 commas? Pfft. Try FOUR, bitchez!)

    Check it out:

    Note: the coin in the image has more purchasing power than the banknote. I wish I had bought another 9 of those notes, so that I could officially have five commas. This is what government does to value, always and everywhere, given time.

  287. @peterAUS

    It now seems that you don’t care to persuade anyone with your comments after all because it is pretty obvious that someone who is yet to be persuaded that there is an issue is going to spend the time and effort you prescribe.

    You can’t be referring to Australia-s (small) Jewish population because even the Lubavitcher kids are educated in English. So are the minute (though troublesome) fraction of African – principally South Sudanese – refugee offspring. Even the Lebanese descended from those misguidedly let in as refugees about 1977 are English speaking now. The Indians and Pakistanis all speak English though I suppose you could find a few brides of arranged marriages that didn’t. But they all use English medium schools for their kids.

    Aha! You must be thinking of a few residual desert Aborigines whose kids have bilingualism inflicted on them so their Englis is hopeless. Right?

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  288. @AaronB

    This fact doesn’t get enough attention and it raises some interesting questions about why the West achieved so much.

    I think the ‘Ice People’/’Sun People’ split has a fair amount of explanatory power.

    The Ice People who manage to find a bit of fertile-ish dirt had a thousand generations of hard-scrabbling built into their DNA, and that sort of selective pressure winds up with being hard-wired to think that too much is never enough.

    The Sun People lived, by and large, in environments where calories were relatively abundant year-round (compared to Ice-People-Land) – compared to Ice People, they face more risk of predation and disease, than of food insecurity. And they also didn’t have to husband resources anywhere near as much as the Icers.

    The Ice People had environmental pressure to be more innovative and acquisitive, and they adapted accordingly.

    So now we have space shuttles, cell phones, and cluster munitions: it’s not an unalloyed blessing, but thus far the Ice People haven’t actually rendered the planet uninhabitable. Better yet, after ten or so generations of being able to regularly get enough to eat, they show some signs of calming the fuck down.

    One of my favourite examples of a person who never stopped being hungry is George Herscu.

    At one point, he was worth $500 million: he could have sold up and lived on bank interest.

    But he grew up hungry. Really really hungry. “Boiled shoe-leather with a side of grass and twigs” hungry.

    And with that always in his mind, any buffer that he had between himself and starvation always seemed to be “not enough”.

    So he went for that one more big deal, and expanded into the US. A short time (three years?) later, his business collapsed owing $1.77 billion and he was bankrupt. He later wound up in prison.

    If he had been Tongan, he would have died fat and spent most of his life as happy as a labrador puppy.

    It’s not at all clear to me that the life he actually lived was more enjoyable.

    • Replies: @Winston
  289. @Ron Unz

    Of course Unz lets be real here. If the Ives had a true blind and meritocratic admissions policy then international students would be a large majority. I bet PRC nationals at a minimum would be 30 percent and maybe 15 percent for Indians.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
  290. anon[169] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anarcho-Supremacist

    why would the U.S. govt subsidize them if they enrolled that many foreign students?

  291. peterAUS says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    It now seems that you don’t care to persuade anyone with your comments after all because it is pretty obvious that someone who is yet to be persuaded that there is an issue is going to spend the time and effort you prescribe.

    Precisely. Free will, time/energy/effort allocation, stuff like that. With price attached.

    Good list, with …hahaha….just one …just ONE group missing.

    Re

    The Indians and Pakistanis all speak English though I suppose you could find a few brides of arranged marriages that didn’t.

    and some elderly. Now, it helps when those two countries were under The Crown for quite some time.

    Still, we are getting sidetracked here focusing on speaking English (properly).

    My point is that those ethnic/racial groups tend to live together in close knit societies WITHIN large society. Almost self-contained.
    That self-containment, with encouragement from TPTBs, enables them not to assimilate into major culture.
    In essence…you have “small India/Pakistan….CHINA”. Small, for the moment.
    Bigger they get, smaller the major culture becomes……

    The game is simple: their second generation assimilates well, but will come to that again below. The thing is….with not well controlled immigration we have more of the first.
    And, as for the second generation, again, we know how it works in Europe with Muslims.

    An anecdote: an acquaintance of mine, Asian, told me recently that he liked, almost needed, speaking with me because that’s one of rare opportunities to speak English. White collar professional, service industry. All of his team speak Mandarin at work; all customers and business contacts are Chinese.
    Make of that what you will.

    I hope we aren’t talking about merits of (uncontrolled) immigration. All clear there.
    Everybody likes it..except prevalent culture “deplorables” and some of upper layers of the same culture who think about 10 years ahead, not just up to their next yearly bonus/promotion.

    The only what matters is ..which group one belongs to.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  292. Sean says:
    @academic gossip

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/at-trial-harvards-asian-problem-and-a-preference-for-white-students-from-sparse-country

    Last week, a lawsuit challenging Harvard’s admissions process as discriminatory toward Asian-Americans, organized by the affirmative-action opponent Edward Blum, went to trial in the Boston federal courthouse. Among the revelations of the trial’s first week was that, to this day, Harvard makes a special effort to recruit students from twenty states that it calls Sparse Country. In his testimony, William Fitzsimmons, the dean of admissions, who has worked in the admissions office since before Bakke, reminisced about his Harvard roommate in the nineteen-sixties, who was “a great ambassador” for South Dakota. He also testified about the letters Harvard sends to high-school students in Sparse Country who have P.S.A.T. scores of at least 1310, encouraging them to apply. The only Sparse Country students with such scores who do not get the letter are Asians; to receive it, an Asian male must score at least 1380. An attorney for the plaintiff asked why a white boy in, say, immigrant-rich Las Vegas with a score of 1310 would get the letter, while his Asian classmate with a 1370 would not. Fitzsimmons responded with generalities about the need to recruit from a broad array of states to achieve diversity.

    When Fitzsimmons was asked whether he thinks “it’s impossible to abuse a holistic review process like Harvard’s,” he replied, “I do.”

  293. Sean says:
    @peterAUS

    Following an AIpocalypse extermination of humanity by hard working super-intelligence its lazy digital third generation, concentrating on internal ‘cultural things’, will decide to take a cosmic siesta.

    Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.

  294. AaronB says:
    @peterAUS

    Its not necessary for the human race to survive, and we know this planet will eventually get eaten by the sun.

    Something new will come out of the great Nothing.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @peterAUS
  295. Winston says:
    @Kratoklastes

    The “Ice People and Sun People split” is just nonsense made up by some racists like Derbyshire to satisfy his superiority complex. All ancient original civilizations on earth were born in areas suitable for advanced agriculture. With the exception of China, the rest of the 5 cradles of civilization (Egypt and Mesopotamia, India, Andes, Mesoamerica) were all created by “Sun” People living in low latitude zones with a lot of sunlight.

    The Greek civilization was not an original civilization and was heavily influenced by Egyptian and Mesopotamian civilizations.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
    , @Anonymous
  296. @Wizard of Oz

    The really key bit of this –

    how the smartest brains can be disciplined or otherwise helped to optimise their host’s performance

    - is trying to work out what it means to ‘optimise’, and what is meant by ‘performance’.

    It’s rare to find a smart person who has what most people consider ‘normal’ objectives; ‘normal’ objectives seem to involve having a material standard of living that impresses other people – a bigger house (80% owned by a bank); a late model car (on credit) and so forth.

    It’s not clear how it happens, but the one constant that I have seen in every smart person I know is the development of an introspective side – eventually. It often requires some social catalyst, the nature of which is only obvious in hindsight: it’s rarely parental.

    By ‘introspective’ I don’t mean navel-gazing; I mean genuinely making an effort to nut out what they would rather do with their time and their talents – and it seldom involves continuing to do things to acquire material stuff in order to impress randoms; it might not even involve going to university.

    Basically, ‘optimising’ is finding the right combination of status, income, security and popularity that makes the person as happy as possible given their budget and other constraints.

    It’s very bespoke: if it were just me, I could live in the caravan park near Lake Eacham and eat channa masala for every meal of every day (so long as I had an internet connection). I wouldn’t be ‘productive’, but I would be among the happiest people alive.

    Smart kids find their niche – even if it’s living in a primitive dwelling in Thailand getting paid bugger-all and helping run an elephant sanctuary. (I would be immensely proud if any of my nephews did that, but probably horrified if I had a kid and my kid did it).

    Determining a smart kid’s objectives for them, and trying to ‘nudge’ or cajole them along some path designed ‘help’ them meet objectives that they might not want (or might repudiate later), strikes me as a very difficult and thankless task. In fact, it’s one of the non-misanthropic reasons I have no desire to be a parent.

    Sometimes I delude myself that if I had a kid like me, I would give them loose (but not ‘free’) rein – very similar to how my parents treated me: discipline to inculcate proper behaviour; support for interests, even predictably-transient interests; no pressure to do ‘normal’ kid stuff unless the kid wanted to.

    The reality is that I would almost-certainly do what everyone does – project my values onto the poor wretch, and force them to kick the footy and play cricket with me.

    I would “want what’s best for them”, which would be some Δ ‘improvement’ from what’s best for me, with the direction of each element of the ‘improvement’ deriving from my preferences, not the kid’s – and would almost certainly be wrong (and a poor fit for a changing technological environment).

    I am usually loath to refer to the psych literature, because it’s the lowest-quality research corpus that humanity has produced: worse than astrology, homeopathy and theology, only because it has yet to be properly exposed as the last profitable refuge for charlatanry.

    With that said: there is some half-decent evidence that very high-IQ people are under-represented in ‘prestige’ positions. There’s also some modest evidence that above +2.5σ, the link between IQ and income (and wealth) breaks down.

    That’s not saying that very bright kids end up poor: it just means that there appears to be diminishing marginal utility (from their perspective) to allocating their cognitive apparatus to what I refer to as “hamster wheel” pursuits.

    The Lovely is a prime example of this: talent got her promoted to Senior Associate at one of Australia’s biggest law firms in less than 3 years – faster than anyone in the prior 8 promotion rounds. But her first-rate mind meant that she had no desire to continue the ordeal: she had less-than-zero desire to become a partner at the firm (in this she had my full – but irrelevant – support). By the 10-year mark she would have been bagging $1.5 mil a year, easy - but she had no interest to continue in that nest of vipers, clipping the ticket of underlings who have to bill 7x salary.

    Contrast that with Salim Mehajer – a name that, in most of Australia, is now a byword for a half-smart status-obsessed shyster. For a while, every duck-faced fake-tan stripper-heeled Instagram slattern wanted to be in the passenger seat of his (leased) Lambo. If you used $10k as a lure on a marlin rig, dragged it behind a car and went past Mehajer, he would bite on it and not let go.

    My claim is that if he had another 20-25 IQ points, he would not have been attracted to political power (or Instagram slatterns) in the first place.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  297. utu says:
    @AaronB

    ‘Its not necessary for the human race to survive.” – no only not necessary but its extinction is assured.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  298. renfro says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    My two younger brothers are both Harvard MBAs.
    We didn’t give Harvard any money ……they must have confused them with someone else…..or they were Harvard’s token Southerners…….lol

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  299. peterAUS says:
    @AaronB

    Its not necessary for the human race to survive, and we know this planet will eventually get eaten by the sun.

    Well…I’d leave that to great masters of SF. Clarke, for example, for sort of optimistic view.

    My primary interest is next 20 years. I just don’t see myself, in this form, after that (assuming there is something beyond “that”). Selfish, short sighted, probably, don’t care. Happy to leave that care to the living. Division of labor and such.

    I’d prefer living those 20 years as, say, I’ve done the last 20 years, of sort.

    Unfortunately, any way I cut it, it looks like it will be……….different…in rather unpleasant way.

    And all that assuming we won’t have M.A.D.

    With this new breed of politicians, what can go right when they get the opportunity to make The Decision?
    The current White House guy approaches geopolitics as running a business. No coming back from that bankruptcy.

  300. @Kratoklastes

    Thanks (that’s not just for being right but including the benefit of your genuine experience and observations). There’s nothing that leaps out as requiring disagreement. But… although I noted the problem for some bright family members of having had *too much choice* (e.g no family money worries and matriculating at 15 with firsts in the hard subjects) compounded perhaps by a family death at a critical time which left them (female with a very smart charming but not formally educated mother) with money but no sensible guidance I would add in to what you say the building and maintaining of the power to choose quite big changes of direction. In other words not to close off options. I now tell everyone who can to learn lots of maths and that if they don’t speak Chinese in 20 years time it will be like not speaking English now. (I also try to pass on what I know about not losing mastery of a language that one got on top of once. Do they listen? Well I am unembarrassred about applying my rule that things have to be said at least three times to make it even 50:50 that the time is right for reception).

    I am sorry that you are without children. I have unfashionable ideas that a wretched Federal Treasurer once called elitist about how to make minor inroads on our indigenous dysgenic problem. But you may be amused at my telling about ten smart 17 year old female friends of a niece that I was all in favour of great female CEOs but had to note that they would probably do more for their grandchildren’s Australia or England if they did what their equally smart and capable great grandmothers did and have 15 children. Before they could react I threw in the punchline from a smart young male investment manager: “same goes for the blokes!”.

  301. @renfro

    The person I mentioned wanted his daughter to go to Harvard College not a graduate school. I suspect the Business School is much more concerned with future influence around the world. One of my Oxbridge contemporaries who had a distinguished later career had made a splash as reformer in a major Varsity sport, another (later a professor of management and innovator in third world business development) had a 170 year old family business and captained a university mtnor-but fashionable sport team. No bribes needed I think. Nor for the female Israeli tank commander, Baker Scholar, who later headed a worldwide management consultancy.

  302. Skeptikal says:

    “Furthermore, I noted the possibility that this discrepancy might be related to the overwhelming Jewish dominance of the top administration of those institutions:”

    And this, my dears, along with I expect Jewish dominance in the donor base, explains the jihad at Harvard against “final” clubs, and any other private clubs of self-selecting groups of students.
    Drew Gilpin Faust made it a defining element of her legacy before she stepped down and replaced her Harvard President’s office for a position on the board of Goldman Sachs (she still teaches at Harvard).

    The agenda is more transparent than Faust and her co-jihads apparently think. The arguments they brought forth were each lamer than the last and led to embarrassing necessity to enlarge the definition of the banned clubs (actually, clubs have not been banned but their members have been sanctioned very stiffly) to include also all-women’s clubs, to avoid charges of discrimination against white men. Many of the women students and other groups were quite upset at the quashing of their clubs.

    Then there is the valuable real estate and stately buidlings that the old clubs possess. Harvard is surely licking its chops to get its mitts on these properties. I expect doing so is part of the long-range strategic develpment plan.

    I hope the issue of the jihad against final and other clubs comes up in this trial.

  303. @peterAUS

    Come to think of it I can see that there would be some businesses where a foreign language might be prevalent. Arranging tourism for Chinese is an obvious one. So is getting Indian students visas and places in Australia’s rather shiny for profit education sector. The latter is worth a bit of worry and action.

    Generally I count on the Indians (not perhaps including all Indian Muslims but that’s BTW) not wanting the Chinese to become too influential and vice versa. I expect them both to be net taxpayers who will want to limit the immigration of the unskilled (apart I suppose for the odd Philipina nursemaid on a temporary – maybe tourist visa – while their kids are young). On the other hand I wouldn’t expect them to be enthusiastic maximises of their tax payments so, if you can’t afford Jewish tax lawyers you might get some friendly practical help from Chinese (especially) or Indian friends.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  304. Skeptikal says:

    “The vast majority seem to possess minimal academic expertise and few intellectual interests, raising serious questions about their ability to reasonably evaluate their higher-quality applicants.”

    I was shocked at the lack of qualifications for a position in the admissions dept. at Wellesley of a young woman of my personal acquaintance. This woman was very lah-de-dah when she described how the group would read through applications and basically joke as they tossed one into the acceptance pile and the next one into the rejection pile.
    This young woman had zero qualifications to be deciding on the fate of girls applying to Wellesley. She didn’t even seem to take her role seriously, and she herself was a graduate of a decent but not stellar college.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  305. Skeptikal says:
    @Hans

    The third video has been disabled by Google.

  306. peterAUS says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Well…all that assuming that your group retains exclusive hold on power, or better, preserves core Australian culture. Makes, and enforces, all fundamental rules. As,say, since 1 January 1901.

    Hehe..I mean, that’s what you guys expect. As for us, commoners, well, although not perfect, beats all the alternatives.

    Re those alternatives, I am not quite sure your group will manage that from the first paragraph.
    I expect certain…dilution…there.
    More relaxed environment re naked corruption, abuse of state power and all the rest of those beauties India and China are good at.
    The very reasons their own people flee there and try to get, by hook and crook, into Australia (and New Zealand when you think about that).And, when they get here, they do their best to recreate the very shit they run from.
    People……
    Just last week I was engaged in a brief project, tech world, with Indian client. Let’s just say that it was rather different experience from work done for “locals”. From requests and expectations, through pay to work environment. Not looking forward for similar any time soon. Enough said.

    So..we’ll see.

  307. @Winston

    The “Ice People and Sun People split” is just nonsense made up by some racists like Derbyshire to satisfy his superiority complex.

    Weird: here was me, thinking it was made up by a black academic (Leonard someone – can’t be bothered to look it up) who got in quite a bit of trouble for it.

    (His formulation had some New Age horse-shit about melanin making people more attuned to Nay-cha or the universe or whatever: I’ve had a tan, and it didn’t enable me to hear the Music of the Spheres).

    That aside: there’s a pretty big difference between “civilisation” and the sort of grasping materialist expansionism that is mostly the hallmark of the West – in all likelihood, mostly due to technological superiority.

    It’s no longer true, but for a lot of human history “necessity [was] the mother of invention”: tech change was largely driven by a need to do more with less (including the science of slaughter). If your home was a bunch of rain-soaked rocks off the coast of France, or an icy wasteland in Ikea-land, you tended to have to go trade with (or steal from) other folks.

    By contrast, if you were somewhere more fertile, you could invent philosophy, writing or music or other gay shit that the Icers would try to steal.

    • China: bunch of stay-at-homes. Invented gunpowder, yet failed to bomb a single school.
    • Mesopotamia: didn’t trouble the scorers on the ‘empire’ front; were invadee more than invader. Pikers.
    • Mesoamerica: localised strife, the odd bit of playful human sacrifice, but far too humid to do serious large-scale stuff;
    • Greece: historical epics, played out in a space the size of Tasmania.

    Look back at the historical record of proper invading hordes of marauding assholes: they’re largely Icers.

    The big-ticket hordes were Icers. Euro-Imperialism was 100% pure Icer until Japan had a go at it (they’re Icer-ish: natural resource poor).

    Temujin was an Icer (hint: it’s not about white skin, blonde-ness or blue eyes or swastika armbands… it’s about tundra and eating your horse).

    There was plenty of ‘invading’ done in warm climes, but until Rome got its SPQR on, everything was pretty localised.

    (Rome was a Sun People gig – the climate around the big bathtub that joins Europe to North Africa is pretty sunny. Plus, the Ities are all far too dusky to be trusted).

    The Gyppos were a Sun People that had an ‘Empire’, but you could have fitted the whole thing into New South Wales. If technology had permitted, it’s possible that they would have expanded further – there was plenty of periodic famine to keep them hungry enough to get Icer-ish tendencies.

    And there will be exceptions to every rule: Maori are clearly a Sun People, but well before Whitey had ocean-going navigation, they performed the longest oceanic migration in history to that point… and when they got to Ao Tea Roa, they killed everyone they met (and ate the ones who were worth eating).

    HAIL KEK!

  308. denk says:
    @anon

    *its a good plan*

    So its like I say, a whitey plan, more like a 5lies scheme.
    why blame it on the Jews ?

    *They are invading the USA and killing us with their incompatible cultures of dishonesty, selfishness, greed, nepotism, clannishness and ruthlessness*

    hundreds/thousands died in the 1959 CIA/RAW abetted ‘uprising’ by the Dalai clique,

    thousands of Chinese killed in the fukus instigated indo/sino war, 1962

    hundreds died in the CIA engineered TAM caper,.1989
    [and you smeared that as 'massacre' until this very day]

    [MORE]

    1999, ‘accidental’ bombing of Chinese embassy in ex Yugo,
    killing three personnel, one of them a pregnant woman,
    [and the state dept creep told the press corp,
    'we use an out of date map by mistake', with a huge smirk ]

    2000,
    spy plane over Hainan, killing one Chinese pilot.

    hundreds died in the CIA orchestrated riots in Tibet ,2008
    [You spin it as another 'brutal crackdown on unarmed protestors]

    hundreds chopped up by CIA’s UIghurs mercs in Xinjiang 2009
    [and your lovely presstitudes told the world its a 'genocide on muslims',
    'wow, why aint there a jihad against the Chinese ?' they helpfully suggest]

    2013
    Obama’s ‘Asian pivot’, aka the encirclement of China,

    Trump has gone one up over Obama,
    provocations in SCS, TW, ECS.
    trade war,
    smear campaign,
    sanction..

    These are off hand and hardly exhaustive.

    So who’r those ‘ruthless invaders’ ???

    • Replies: @anon
  309. denk says:
    @Sean

    Access as in studying in murikkan unis, …just like the Indians, jps, euros, martians….

    I hope you’r not one of those who swallow your dear leaders B.S. that the Chinese have been ‘accessing‘ all your national data centres, ‘siphoning top secrets doc from Lockheed Martin at will’ !

    *China is another country*

    Hope murikkans remember that,
    China is a sovereign country, 3000 miles away…..
    not to be maligned., sabotaged, violated at will.

    [hint]
    re my reply to anon256

  310. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Winston

    That theory wasn’t talking about official “cradles” AFAIK. At the time, it’s perfectly logical that higher population densities formed in areas where food was readily available.

    I’m not yet sold on the Ice-Sun theory myself but “we wuz kangz” is not a rebuttal (especially when your own exception is high-IQ China). It’s a feel-good story for today’s ghetto-dwellers and white genocide advocates. Ultimately – for whatever reason – the whites and the East Asians have evolved to have higher average IQs and that’s where we are now.

  311. @anon

    according to the data Unz was able to glean from the National Merit program there are 10 times as many Ivy League qualified whites as qualified jews so even if whites only applied at half the rate it would still be a 5 to 1 ratio. There really is no way to explain what’s going on other than extreme favoritism towards jews and extreme discrimination against whites.

    A direct count of Harvard’s Jewish surnames using Ron’s estimation method showed a similar percentage (6-8 percent) at Harvard as on the National Merit lists. See the Nurit Baytch paper where she did this calculation on public, private, alumni, and Facebook directories at Harvard, Princeton and Stanford. In my recent comments at Steve Sailer’s I posted a link with code to search the Princeton undergraduate public directory if you want to test this out for yourself. Ron is aware of this problem but has not addressed it. In fact, this article of his appears to be a response to my comments at Sailer’s blog. The strategy is to claim victory over Ms Baytch and ridicule her instead of explaining an error in her calculations.

    What Ron discovered is that (1) there has been some divergence between Jewish high achiever surnames and classic American Jewish names, apparently due to immigration, (2) Harvard Hillel put out exaggerated or obsolete overestimates of the Jewish numbers for years to help their fundraising and student recruitment.

    • Replies: @utu
  312. utu says:
    @academic gossip

    Ron Unz addressed the points you are repeating here in the past on several occasions. For example here:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/meritocracy-response-to-prof-gelman-on-jewish-elite-

    overrepresentation/

    I am quite satisfied with his response. It seems that you are engaging in wishful thinking trying to cast spells on reality to change it to your liking. You magic powers do not work.

  313. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Academic gossip defending the honour of Lady Byatch?

    What could, possibly, go wrong?

    • Replies: @academic gossip
  314. @utu

    You are mistaken, or lying.

    Ron never answered Nurit Baytch’s replication of his surname counting on the Harvard (etc) directories, i.e., the assertion that using the same method on the NMS and Harvard data gives approximately the same estimate of the representation of Jews in both populations.

    He only addressed (that is, evaded) it very indirectly by complaining about “private data sets”. The problem is that as N.B. pointed out, there are public directories too. Princeton’s is particularly easy to search and I provided the code in recent comments.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  315. AaronB says:
    @utu

    Good music, and great lyrics!

  316. @Anonymous

    I seem to be the only commenter at Unz.com that Ron has publicly lauded for high quality of contributions (look it up). Steve Sailer also seems to have picked up on that judging from his recent postings and comments. I’m pretty sure that Ron takes notice of what I say to him since, from past experience, he has realized it differs from run of the mill opining by anonymous Internet cowboys, especially as regards issues of evidence, data and analysis.

    It is not an accident that immediately after I took Ron to task about the Baytch calculations in comments at Sailer’s blog, he posted a face-saving comment to exit that discussion, and then took the opportunity to misdirect about it here in his current blog post.

    At any rate, there is a limit to how much publicity Ron can drum up for his Meritocracy piece without having to address Baytch’s calculations and his gross errors on indicators such as the science competitions (see my post above with a bit of relevant data). It doesn’t really matter who is bringing it up or for what reason when the data is out there for everyone to examine.

    • Replies: @utu
  317. denk says:
    @anon

    sinophobe

    Try these for size….
    Grade A stuff,

    Pompeo
    ‘ China is a greater threat to the United States than Russia, ‘

    Pence…
    We will not be intimidated; we will not stand down,
    [China intimidating fukus ? WTF]

    [MORE]

    John Bolton
    ‘ in addition to Russia, there’s “sufficient national security concern” that China, Iran, and North Korea are meddling in the 2018 U.S. elections.

    the major issue of the 21st century for the United States is China due to its ability to build economic and military power while violating international norms.’

    Mattis
    ‘ US is not out to contain China,’
    [sure, black is white, war is peace]

    ‘China must have respect for international rules and for all nations’ sovereignty’
    [cough cough]

    Trump
    almost every student that comes over to this country is a spy.”

    BUt you aint seen nuthin yet,

    Clive Hamilton
    ‘Chinese in Oz are China’s 5th columns.
    The students, academics, scientists, businessmen, Chinese Australians…the lot.

    China is using fake history to position itself to make a future claim over Australia,”

    in the event of a war with China, local Chinese people, “citizens and non-citizens alike,” would “create ongoing and potentially severe civil strife” orchestrated by “the Chinese embassy in Canberra.
    [Hamilton is an aussie, like I say, this is a 5lies co-ordinated conspiracy]

    Nothing new about those, playing the Chinese bogeyman has been a bipartisan sport since 1949.
    Apparently it’s a sure fire way to garner votes during an election, meaning the sheeples bought into it hook line and sinker !

    Josh Barnes is a prime example.

    Ditto FKA MAX/war mountain blair, who advocate a renewal of the Chinese exculsion act.
    Already the move to bar Chinese from studying and working in fukus is a step in this direction.

    Caldre who claims ‘China is far worse than us’ [sic]

    More, tip of an iceberg,
    AttilaC, Gt, Joe Webb…

    Then there’r those who parrot the official line…
    China is our REAL enemy’

    ‘If China retaliates on the trade war, lets turn it into glass’

    Sinophopia is real and very nasty,
    its bi partisan, across the ideological spectrum, whether left, right , centre, just that you havent been paying attention.

    Every time I read about some ‘Asian discrimination’ news , always turns out that it’s all about ‘discrimination against Chinese’.
    HIgh time to call a spade a spade.

    • Replies: @anon
  318. utu says:
    @academic gossip

    What is the difference between Harvard and NKVD?

    None. Jews work very hard to hide their overrepresentation in both.

    • Replies: @academic gossip
  319. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes

    That happened to the survivors of the San Juan de Portugal and the San Juan de Baptista The locals were after the right of salvage as those 2 ships ended up close to shore in shallow waters. So they and contents could be salvaged easily.

    But law of the sea at the time (plus
    custom) meant salvage rights only clicked in if there were no survivors. So the locals rushed in to kill the sailers.
    The local English garrison saved the survivors, tied them up, and. shipped them back to England. They were sent back to Spain.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  320. @utu

    That’s why Hillel reports 57 to 67 (sic) percent Jewish graduate students at Harvard on their website. To hide their overrepresentation.

    How is it hiding overrepresentation to use Ron’s method on the Harvard (Princeton, Stanford, …) student and alumni directories? Isn’t that actually necessary for reaching his conclusions, i.e., to use the same method on both the National Merit lists and Harvard College? If replicating his method shows no Jewish over-representation then either he underestimated the NMS, or whatever declines may have occurred in Jewish academic qualification have been reflected in a proportional decline of Harvard Jewish population. Either way Ron is wrong about the admission.

    The beauty of having public online directories is if you don’t believe Baytch’s calculations you can check the numbers yourself and post the results. Of course, then other people can check your work too. I think crowdsourcing of a Baytch replication would be useful here, and also doing Ron’s estimates on the Harvard “Class Reports” that they mail out to each class’ alumni. Those have alphabetized lists of the former Harvard College students.

    • Replies: @utu
  321. Anon[394] • Disclaimer says:
    @dearieme

    This is exactly what he wrote

    “I have tall blue eye’d blonde nieces who have been accepted by Ivy League colleges in the top 3. I gather their parents did research the SAT coaching business but they got in on excellent English A level results.”

  322. utu says:
    @academic gossip

    You are humorless stupid byatch.

    • Replies: @Anon
  323. Anon[394] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    So name the American Ivy League colleges that admitted your nieces. You can’t can you because like many Americans and most foreigners you think Ivy League college is just another term for top college prestige college top 20 college. It’s not.

    Look at the admissions criteria on the college websites. The SATs do have subject exams in every high school subject that are very similar to the English A level exams. Very few, including the actual Ivy League colleges require subject exams although a student may submit them. Few kids take them unless they know they will get an outstanding grade in a subject exam.

    American colleges require SAT and ACT exams which are tests of verbal and math ability. The American SATs are given in Australia. It’s one exam, both verbal and math on the same day Can’t take one without the other

    So name your nieces American Ivy League colleges.

    Different countries, different tests different systems.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  324. Anon[394] • Disclaimer says:

    The ICE people vs SUN people thing was created by the African studies people.

  325. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes

    still graffiti on the walls near Liverpool (UK )on the underground tunnel show the prayers and longings for the shipwreck s that would have brought them relief from hunger and the elements of the nature.

  326. Ron Unz says:
    @academic gossip

    He only addressed (that is, evaded) it very indirectly by complaining about “private data sets”. The problem is that as N.B. pointed out, there are public directories too. Princeton’s is particularly easy to search and I provided the code in recent comments.

    Well, I managed to locate the link you provided some time ago to a public directory of Princeton undergrads, and also dug out my old Meritocracy spreadsheets from 6 years ago so I could perform a quick Weyl analysis. Unless I’m missing something, the results seem pretty consistent with the old Hillel figures that I used in my 2012 Meritocracy analysis.

    Obviously, Weyl analysis is merely a sampling technique, and on a relatively small dataset such as Princeton’s current 5394 undergrads would certainly not be expected to produce exact results.

    In my analysis, I used two separate Jewish surname samples, which I designed J1 and J2. According to my J1 analysis Princeton undergrads are currently 10.75% Jewish and according to J2 10.23% Jewish. It’s perfectly possible that the distribution of Jewish surnames has slightly changed over the last 6 years, which might slightly impact this figure.

    Since I don’t know anything about the Princeton public dataset, perhaps it doesn’t actually include all students, with a certain fraction refusing to participate for privacy reasons or whatever, in which case my Weyl analysis estimates would be somewhat lower than the correct figure.

    According to the figures from Hillel I used in my big article, Princeton was 13% in 2012 and had been on a gentle downward trajectory for many years. Based on this history, it seems perfectly possible to me that Princeton Jewish enrollment would have dropped another point or two in the six years that followed, especially once my Meritocracy bias findings were widely discussed among the admissions officers. Therefore, my Weyl analysis of the current enrollment figures seem *totally* consistent with my 2012 analysis.

    Meanwhile, Hillel’s recently “new and improved” estimate for Princeton Jews is only 8%, which seems rather on the low side.

    So please do explain to me why the public Princeton dataset you cite doesn’t generally confirm the analysis in my 2012 paper.

    Sometimes ideological zealots can see things that aren’t really there. As I mentioned in my article, Prof. Mertz conclusively demonstrated in her 10,000 word peer-reviewed article that roughly 95% of all the world’s best math students have always been male…and then claimed that conclusively proved that men and women had exactly equal mathematical aptitude…

    • Replies: @utu
  327. 1. For purposes of replication can you clearly define the J1 and J2 estimators as you used them in the Meritocracy article? There was some ambiguity about “Gold*” that Baytch had to reverse-engineer (leading to a downward revision in her replication estimates from the blog discussion at Andrew Gelman’s site) so perhaps you can state whether her version of J1-J2 is the same as yours.

    2. Baytch’s results for the Harvard directories (5 – 9 percent) were much lower relative to your Hillel figures. What is your answer to that? See this and the footnotes

    http://sites.google.com/site/nuritbaytch/#Weyl

    3. The Princeton figures of 10-13 percent are in line with the sociologists’ surveys of Harvard (11-14%) and the much more Jewish UPenn (16% in place of 14, don’t know what their lower estimate was). If Upenn is 16% for their very broad definition of Jewishness then Harvard 25% is preposterous. At the current low admission rates there is a lot of randomness as to which Jews get into which Ivy League school and the main factor influencing the relative rates of enrollment is geography, i.e., if Harvard has an unusually high number compared to Princeton or UPenn that would require some unique mechanism that exists only at Harvard (undercutting your theory of how a Jew surplus would develop). So we expect H and P and UPenn etc to be similar, not Harvard as a huge 25% outlier.

    Basically every indicator other than your old Hillel number points to 10-15 percent Jews at Harvard, which is consistent with the experience of anyone who has been there this millenium. I don’t know anyone who has been to the campus for any extended period lately and thinks half the whites are Jewish. This is why people like Baytch, a recent graduate, are confident in disputing your numbers.

    I will add more later but the above should be enough for continued discussion.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @FKA Max
  328. Sometimes ideological zealots can see things that aren’t really there.

    Sure. Like taking a sample with three white students (the 2010-2012 US IMO teams) and seeing a “collapse” of Jewish numbers to 0% in the 2010′s. In fact 3 of the 9 white students on the past 10 years’ IMO teams appear to be ethnic Jews. Or 30% if you “help” the Gentile representation by allowing half-Asians.

    I will post the numbers when I have time, but it looks like the past decade’s white American IMO + IPhO + IOI population is at least 40% Jewish. Jews have not collapsed relative to whites on these things. Asians have suppressed the total of (W+J) but with little change to J/W over the years.

    I was surprised by that, because my prior assumption was identical to your conclusion: American Jews have become too fat and happy to compete academically as they used to. What I learned from looking at the data is that the obvious imminent collapse of Jewish academic performance never went through the formality of taking place. There was a boost in the 80-90s from high skilled Russian immigration that ended, so a decade or two of absurd representation became high representation again, at roughly the historical levels. Those Russians have college age kids today, so if natural trends of later-generation laziness are to prevail, it may not be visible until the 2020′s or later.

  329. anon[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @denk

    those clowns don’t represent me but i’m sure you can find more of their type saying the same thing about Russia and i’m sure you can find higher ups in the Chinese govt saying similar things about the U.S. but nobody calls them similar names so get over it.

    btw i hear that if Americans could read the Chinese forums they would be shocked at what’s written there because the Chinese are salivating at the thought of taking over the U.S. and exploiting the natural resources here

    • Replies: @denk
  330. Ron Unz says:
    @academic gossip

    For purposes of replication can you clearly define the J1 and J2 estimators as you used them in the Meritocracy article?… I will add more later but the above should be enough for continued discussion.

    I specified the J1 and J2 Weyl surname sets in the Quantitative Appendix to my original article, with any slight ambiguity in my wording having no significant impact upon the Princeton results I derived. So it sounds like you never bothered carefully reading my article.

    You repeatedly referred to a public Princeton database as clearly proving how totally false my 2012 analysis was. Yet now that I’ve actually checked it, it’s absolutely consistent with my 2012 Meritocracy results. It’s pretty obvious that you never bothered using it yourself before repeatedly citing it to attack and denounce me.

    Given your demonstrated track-record of laziness, incompetence, and dishonesty, I can’t see why I should bother wasting any more time on your nonsense.

    I suggest you return to your other regular hobby of lobbying Congress for erecting national monuments to Leo Frank, one of America’s greatest hero-martyrs….

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Tyrion 2
  331. utu says:
    @Ron Unz

    Why is Princeton number (13%) significantly lower than Harvard (25%) and other Ivy schools?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  332. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    I suggest you return to your other regular hobby of lobbying Congress for erecting national monuments to Leo Frank, one of America’s greatest hero-martyrs….

    Haha.

  333. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Given your demonstrated track-record of laziness, incompetence, and dishonesty, I can’t see why I should bother wasting any more time on your nonsense.

    I suggest you return to your other regular hobby of lobbying Congress for erecting national monuments to Leo Frank, one of America’s greatest hero-martyrs

    This is a case-study in this:

    “Cognitive dissonance is the mental conflict that people experience when they are presented with evidence that their beliefs or assumptions are wrong.”

    He identified yet another place where you put your thumb on the scale but politely asked only for clarification. Any person not in dissonance would have been perfectly happy to explain, and yet you went beserk.

    Since you own the website you could delete your response, this comment and do better.

    • Replies: @utu
  334. Ron Unz says:
    @utu

    Why is Princeton number (13%) significantly lower than Harvard (25%) and other Ivy schools?

    Actually, Princeton had always had a somewhat “Southern” orientation, drawing much more from Dixie than any of the other Ivies, and probably for that reason, its Jewish percentage has always been far, far lower than Harvard or Yale. As one of my Meritocracy charts indicates, until about 1950, it was rarely above parity in Jewish enrollment, while Harvard and Yale had been at 300% or 500% of parity for decades.

    I’m pretty sure that’s why Princeton was so viciously attacked as “anti-Semitic” in 1999, despite having a Jewish president, Jewish provost, and massive Jewish over-representation. It actually *had* been anti-Semitic 60 or 70 years earlier, and there’s always a big timelag effect…

    • Replies: @utu
    , @academic gossip
  335. utu says:
    @Tyrion 2

    What else do you want? Ron Unz applied the same methodology he did on NMS lists to the Princeton data and obtained Hillel’s number for Princeton. It is a perfect check of consistency, validity and accuracy. The case is closed.

    • Replies: @academic gossip
  336. FKA Max says: • Website
    @academic gossip

    Did you read this paragraph!?

    These arguments based on general plausibility are strongly supported by quantitative evidence, and ironically enough, it is Baytch herself who provided it. Around the time she produced her lengthy and unpublished document, Harvard Hillel was claiming a Jewish undergraduate enrollment of 25%, and near the beginning of her text, she claimed that figure was obviously false by citing a Harvard Crimson survey indicating that only 9.5% of the Class of 2017 were Jewish. However, she failed to notice that the survey referred to being religiously Jewish, which is entirely different than being Jewish in the broader ethnic or ancestral sense, especially since Jews are among the most secular population in American society and a full 42% of the Harvard students described their religious beliefs as atheist, agnostic, or “other.” Indeed, a worldwide survey finds that only 38% of (ethnic) Jews follow the Jewish religion. So if the Crimson survey were correct and Harvard Jews were typical in their religiosity, this would imply that 9.5% / 0.38 = 25%(!!!) of Harvard freshman were ethnically Jewish, exactly the figure claimed by Harvard Hillel. Fanatic ideologues such as Baytch sometimes have a tendency to score game-ending own-goals without even realizing what they have done.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-racial-discrimination-at-harvard/#p_1_101

    Atheism is entrenched in American Judaism. In researching their book American Grace, authors Robert Putnam and David Campbell found that half of all American Jews doubt God’s existence. In other groups, that number is between 10 and 15 percent.

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-09-26/jew-atheist-god/50553958/1

    Source: http://archive.fo/HN8uw#selection-1393.0-1393.376

    • Replies: @academic gossip
  337. Anon[242] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    You really are quite pathetic. Having deposited this claim:

    “Jews work very hard to hide their overrepresentation in both.”

    You then resort to a one-liner meant to somehow serve as a “clever” insult levelled at the poster academic gossip and Baytch. It fails on each count yet firmly exposes your lack of understanding of the critical nature of the data related matter academic gossip alludes to in #322 [and elsewhere]:

    The beauty of having public online directories is if you don’t believe Baytch’s calculations you can check the numbers yourself and post the results. Of course, then other people can check your work too. I think crowdsourcing of a Baytch replication would be useful here, and also doing Ron’s estimates on the Harvard “Class Reports” that they mail out to each class’ alumni. Those have alphabetized lists of the former Harvard College students.

    You are either lying or incapable of understanding the methodology.

  338. utu says:
    @Ron Unz

    Thanks. One more question if I may. The parity is based on merit not population, right? How was the merit ratio determined in, say, 1920 when you did not have NMS data?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  339. I specified the J1 and J2 Weyl surname sets in the Quantitative Appendix to my original article, with any slight ambiguity in my wording having no significant impact upon the Princeton results I derived.

    Is NBaytch correct when she says “It turns out Unz had meant {Gold, Goldberg, Golden, Goldman, Goldstein} by “Gold—”, and he had not counted hyphenated names”?

    It’s relevant not only to replicating your results but also to assessing how careful and reliable she was. She went to the trouble of reverse-engineering your method to remove any ambiguity and room for debate over whether she had conducted an exact replication. Typing in the word YES or NO would settle this.

    So it sounds like you never bothered carefully reading my article.

    I carefully read over everything you and N.B wrote on this subject, some parts several times, either replication-testing some results or comparing against data sets (examples in my above posts) before making public comment.

    On the other hand, there is no public evidence that you ever read her article, since you have never commented on its main finding, the drastic “replication failure” of your results when using J1 and J2 on the Harvard directory. If you haven’t read it, it has been brought to your attention by now, even with a link directly to the section where she gives the replication analysis. Obviously, challenging my reading ability, or my honesty, or whatever other defects you imagine I may have, does not affect the validity of her results, which are the main and still totally unanswered challenged to your work.

    Nothing about me is stopping you from answering her findings.

    You have done a great job talking about her physical appearance, ethnicity, fanaticism, etc etc. But never about her replication test of your Harvard numbers (and also, though less importantly, her replications for Princeton, Stanford, NMS data sets, and others).

    Of course the ordinary and intellectual varieties of “Jew-negative” commenters who flock to your Pravda series will continue to cheer you on simply because it suits them ideologically. But I can’t imagine anyone who has followed the data analysis in any detail taking you seriously until you take on Baytch’s analysis. At a minimum her Harvard J1 and J2 counts.

  340. Dan Hayes says:
    @Anon

    Anon[257]:

    Thank you for your fact-filled response which provided details I was unaware of. This is just one more example of a UR respondent coming through.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  341. Ron Unz says:
    @utu

    Thanks. One more question if I may. The parity is based on merit not population, right? How was the merit ratio determined in, say, 1920 when you did not have NMS data?

    No, actually in that particular graph I was using “parity” relative to the national population rather than any “merit” selection, since just as you suggest, “merit” estimates would have been impossible that far back. For example, Princeton was only about 2% Jewish during the 1930s, somewhat below the Jewish percentage of the national population, and very far below the figures for Harvard or Yale.

  342. gregor says:
    @Ron Unz

    This got me thinking. Current Harvard class is about 52% minority. And the gender split is also, I believe, around 50/50. So the White male slots are only ~25%. Subtract out athletes and Jews and you’re probably looking at roughly ZERO academic slots for White male Gentiles.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @Truth
    , @utu
  343. @FKA Max

    That isn’t the Baytch replication analysis (that Ron has yet to answer).

    I already answered Ron’s attempt to scale up from 9.5% on a survey to his desired 25%. Part of the answer is that it contradicts the other data in the same survey. The atheist/agnostic category isn’t nearly large enough to accomodate the rest of the Jews together with the nonreligious Gentiles at the reported rates of atheism. Every Jew would have had to interpret the religion question in Ron’s way, as about religious belief alone, and almost every white Gentile at Harvard would have to be religious. Neither of those are plausible.

    I suggest you click on the link to the Crimson survey to play around with the data and see what I mean. (Ron didn’t answer any of my earlier comment on this, either, but for now I’d like to focus on getting an answer to NB’s replication analysis.)

    • Replies: @FKA Max
  344. @utu

    You do understand that Harvard Hillel and Princeton Hillel are different people using different methods of getting their number, right? Harvard stopped asking students to fill out a “religious preference card” about 25 years ago and (as mentioned in NB’s article) it is very possible that the Hillel simply reported the numbers from that for many years afterward. Princeton is more detailed with its racial statistics, and if they are also more old-fashioned about the religious statistics, or provide more of that type of data to their Hillel, that would also explain a difference in numbers.

    Obviously you are in tremendous rush to declare “case closed” before seeing Ron try to address the failure of J1/J2 replication on the Harvard directories. He could of course claim, without any evidence, that Baytch made up the data, i.e., another Jewish berserker conspiracy. There is too much other data available about Harvard for that to work if she were trying to hide a giant 25% number, but anyway, I look forward to seeing Ron actually answer this issue after 5 years or more.

    Gold-boxing supportive commenters is not an example of answering the issue.

    • Agree: Tyrion 2
  345. Tyrion 2 says:
    @gregor

    Yet the Harvard Organ Society still holds a busy calendar of events. Those damn athletes and their enthusiasm for playing the pipe organ.

    http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/organ/events/

    Or what about all these crazy Jews at the suspended Harvard Christian group?

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/harvard-suspends-christian-student-group-for-removing-lesbian-bible-study-l

    This is a bit silly I know, but you’ve taken the full Reductio Ad Absurdum route, but of your own argument!

    • Replies: @gregor
  346. Ronnie says:
    @Anon

    The term Kosher salt gained common usage in North America and refers to its use in the Jewish religious practice of shechita (aka koshering / kashering) as opposed to the salt itself being manufactured in accordance with religious guidelines. Some brands further identify “Kosher certified salt” as being certified by a religious body. Salt without added iodine is conventionally referred to as “sea salt”. Actually, in the past year in the NY Times there have been an increasing number of recipes calling for “salt” or “sea salt” rather than Kosher salt. Like the percentage of Jews at Harvard we might hope that meritocracy would gradually reduce this tasteless over-representation and stimulate more exploration of secular brands.

  347. FKA Max says: • Website
    @academic gossip

    It would be interesting to determine how many of Harvard’s “Protestants” are ethnically/ancestrally Jewish, i.e. their grand parents survived the Holocaust, etc. About 1/3 of Harvard’s Protestants are African-American and 1/5 are Asian, actually:

    Data from the Pew Research Center that as of 2013, about 1.6 million adult American Jews identify themselves as Christians, most are Protestant.[3][4][5]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Christianity_from_Judaism

    There are lots of ways “to play around with the [Crimson] data” https://features.thecrimson.com/2013/frosh-survey/lifestyle.html

    How many Jews are there in the United States?

    Two other groups were not counted as Jews in the report. There are an additional 2.4 million adults in the “Jewish background” category – that is, people who were raised Jewish or had at least one Jewish parent, but who now either identify with a religion other than Judaism (most are Christian) or say they do not think of themselves as Jewish or partially Jewish, by religion or otherwise. Also, there are 1.2 million adults in the “Jewish affinity” category – people who were not raised Jewish, do not have a Jewish parent, and are not Jewish by religion but who nevertheless consider themselves Jewish in some sense.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/10/02/how-many-jews-are-there-in-the-united-states/

    Source: http://archive.is/U4y9d

  348. DB Cooper says:
    @CrazedIndiot

    The majority of these H1B subcon are basically scam artists. I know quite a few of them.

  349. DB Cooper says:
    @CrazedIndiot

    Check out this article:

    American addendum: New Delhi should convince US to open its doors to our skilled workforce scam artist in a win-win arrangement

    https://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ruminations/american-addendum-new-delhi-should-convince-us-to-open-its-doors-to-our-skilled-workforce-in-a-win-win-arrangement/

  350. @Anon

    I take a number of precautions to reduce the chance of my true identity becoming known to, in particular, Anons and pseudonymous nutters on UR, I am probably considerably better acquainted with the Ivies, plus Oxbridge and other Russell Group universities, plus Stanford, UCLA, Berkeley, Caltech and a few others than you are. Of Harvard, Yale, Penn, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, Columbia and Princeton let me just give what would be’verification that I am not bullshitting if you are as well informed as you think you are and have noted what I previously said. Top 3 Ivies….Correction Top 4 and I nominate Harvard, Yale, Columbia and Princeton. The last thing I want is any connection between young family members and ageing nutters on UR.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
    , @Anon
    , @Anon
  351. gregor says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I don’t see a lot of White males in either of your links.

    The White male percentage at Harvard is right around 25%. I feel pretty confidant about that starting number.

    Of those, to get the Gentile subset you’d need to subtract 5% to 12.5%, depending on which number you believe for Jews. I agree with Ron that the higher end is more likely. That leaves us with 12.5%-20% White male Gentiles.

    If the scuttlebutt about 15-20% being athletic scholarships is accurate and those are “overwhelmingly white,” that wouldn’t leave much (especially if there aren’t a lot of Jews on athletic scholarship). Not to mention the legacies/politically connected/donor funded admits who also skew White. Point being that there aren’t a lot of “at large” slots for regular White male applications.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Tyrion 2
  352. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes

    You’re welcome Sir

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  353. denk says:
    @anon

    those clowns don’t represent me

    unfortunately they seem to represent the majority of murikkans, including lots of UNZ readers.

    * i’m sure you can find higher ups in the Chinese govt saying similar things about the U.S. but nobody calls them similar names so get over it.*

    Zero, nada, zip.

    *btw i hear that if Americans could read the Chinese forums they would be shocked at what’s written there because the Chinese are salivating at the thought of taking over the U.S. and exploiting the natural resources here*

    hearsay.

    When I do find something inflammatory in a Chinese forum, its always reactive.
    it could be responding to some wild accusation from Trump and co, or another provocation at China’s doorstep by the USN,

    For example, when Pence claims that ‘fukus is being intimidated by China’, its classic
    bandits crying robbery’,
    the Chinese would be fully justified calling him some [email protected]#$%^!

    • Replies: @anon
  354. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I’m not an aging nutter. To repeat, no one is admitted to any of the Ivy League colleges without the verbal and math SATs.

    I gather you finally looked up Ivy League on google.

    I have no interest in your family

  355. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I’m extremely well aquainted with both Stanford and UCLA, having graduated from Stanford and worked at UCLA for 14 years.

    Congratulations on finally googling Ivy League

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  356. Ron Unz says:
    @gregor

    If the scuttlebutt about 15-20% being athletic scholarships is accurate and those are “overwhelmingly white,” that wouldn’t leave much (especially if there aren’t a lot of Jews on athletic scholarship). Not to mention the legacies/politically connected/donor funded admits who also skew White. Point being that there aren’t a lot of “at large” slots for regular White male applications.

    I’d tend to agree with you, though my impression is that a pretty substantial fraction of the athletic-admits are women, so it’s not really a gender issue. Still, it wouldn’t surprise me if 1/3 to 1/2 of all the white Gentiles were admitted as athletes, and if we then subtract the children of Senators, celebrities, and multimillionaires, there probably aren’t all that many spots left for smart white Gentile students.

    As I’ve mentioned in a previous comment, my impression is that word of the extreme unlikelihood of acceptance has gradually gotten around over the last decade or so, and fewer and fewer “ordinary” white Gentiles are even bothering to apply and get humiliated. Getting accepted is probably just as difficult for Asians, but family pressure forces them to do so anyway.

    • Replies: @academic gossip
  357. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Like using alleged extra virgin olive oil for frying everything including bacon kosher salt is just another pretentious foodie fad.

    So is pink and lavender Himalayan salt. It comes in little chunks and you have to grind it over the food like pepper.

  358. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes

    My brother in law’s from Devon and has family all over Devon and Cornwall
    I always assumed those romantic novels about Cornish shipwreckers were just stories. He’s assured me that piracy was a major industry in Devon and shipwrecking and smuggling the major industries in Cornwall for centuries

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  359. anon[412] • Disclaimer says:
    @denk

    unfortunately they seem to represent the majority of murikkans

    haven’t you used this twice now?

    you’ll get no sympathy from me any more

    • Replies: @denk
  360. @Anon

    If one is competing with silly congratulations your counterfactual one (really silly because even if I hadn’t been able – unlike that former Harvard admissions officer who included Duke at Al. as Ivies – to name the Ivies 30 years ago anyone commenting on Ron’s 2012 TAC Myth etc had to know which they were**) is beaten by congratulations on being one of many many thousand Stanford graduates and UCLA staff.

    **Actually I can date my confirming that they included the little vaunted Brown (RI in case you don’t know: I had a look three years ago when driving from Newport to NYC) because I was given the subtle and important character of 9th Juror in a production of Reginald Rose’s “Twelve Angry Men”. (Think of the film made famous mostly by Henry Fonda sas 8th juror). In an email about the part and the modification to the old script the young producer was contemplating I explained my unassuming character who rose to the occasion by exhibiting adherence to old fashioned supposedly American values by describing him as a modest member of an old WASP New England family, maybe a statutory officer for a top 100 corporation, member of a decent golf club and graduate of a minor Ivy – say Brown. Himmler knew a lot about Jews. I know a lot about America. Most Americans deserve to be treated at least as well as the Nazis treated Mischlingen in the Wehrmacht but maybe you are an exception.

    • Replies: @Anon
  361. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    3 kids at either Harvard Yale Columbia and or Princeton with financial aid that’s about 120,000 USD tuition and dorm cost. Without financial aid about
    250,000 USD.

    Must be a rich family as well as the only students admitted without the American SATs.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  362. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I know exactly where Brown is. Brown is actually very well known because so many TV and print news people are alumni. The liberal arts courses are well known to be very easy so it’s very popular.

    Have you seen the movie Animal House? It’s about the most famous fraternity at Dartmouth which is now and always was a party school. It was men only until the 70s and up in the frozen north the guys spent a lot of time getting drunk

    Cornell is our family legacy school BTW

    Why are you moving away from the 3 alleged nieces who were allegedly admitted to 3 of the “top” Ivy schools on the merits of just one English A level? Did they all get A levels in English or was it a joint effort?

    I caught you in an obvious lie so you think I should be treated worse than the half Jews of Nazi Germany.

    12 angry men is one of the most mawkish liberal PC movies ever made and the Henry Fonda character was awful.

  363. denk says:
    @anon

    The world dont need your sympathy.

    But please stop exporting ‘democrazies’ to us,
    that’d be good enuff.

    hhhhhehe

  364. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    3 nieces, 4 colleges does one of them commute between Columbia and Princeton?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  365. Tyrion 2 says:
    @gregor

    Well, yes, Harvard is half minority and half women. That leaves 25% for white men of which 5% is likely Jewish; leaving 20%, as you say.

    Endless hours of extreme investigation seems to have born that out. Not that it is a secret.

  366. @Ron Unz

    I think your information is out of date. Princeton in reality (vs farfetched Hillel estimates) is probably much closer to Harvard in Jewish enrollment and on every other demographic index than it was historically, and much the same for other Ivy League schools, subject to some geographic and school-size effects. These schools no longer have much individual “personality” due to the hypercompetition for each other’s applicants.

    Admission rates have dropped threefold since the mid 1980′s, causing students to double, triple and quadruple the number of applications sent out. This multiplies the overlap between the Harvard, Princeton, Yale etc applicant populations. That and cheaper air travel and the financial aid wars since the late 1990′s between the top universities have caused a homogenization of the applicant pools. Most competitive applicants cannot predict where they will be admitted and the schools that admit them (other than Harvard) cannot be very confident that they will enroll. Demographically, for white and Asian students it becomes essentially a statistical sample from one big fungible population of Ivy League Applicants. (For blacks it is more granular and brain drain effects propagate all the way down the food chain.)

    The scientific-looking graphs of Hillel data that you plotted in your article are just so much pretty nonsense. Accepting it uncritically is yet another sign that your Meritocracy piece was put together without the quantitative intuition or recent university experience that might have helped interpret the data correctly.

    For one thing, nobody who has been at Harvard lately is likely to imagine that it’s more than 15% Jewish or has been so in recent memory.

    For another, it is mathematically impossible for the percentage of Jewish students to have big up and down jumps year to year as seen in your graph. Isn’t that obvious when you talk about the entire university 4-year enrollment? The number of admitted students is roughly the same every year so the Jewish percentage is the average of the percentage in the last 4 entering classes. Think about what it would take to make the 4 year average jump by 5 percent in one year.

    The Harvard Hillel percentages that you provided for 2006-2012 are: 25, 30, 25.5, 25, 25, 25, 25.
    Assuming that the few years before had 25 percent of entering students Jewish, to go up to 30 in 2007, the fraction of Jews in the entering class would have to be an incredible 45 percent, which is almost the entire white American population at Harvard. Does anyone seriously think that Harvard could admit an entire freshman class of Jews, minorities and international students with zero white Gentiles and not have that be noticed?

    The more likely reality is that Princeton as a smaller school than Harvard has more athletes per capita, therefore a bit more Gentile in its white population, but has a similar fraction of Jews in its white population. The geographic effect is not what it used to be under modern admissions competition. Typical “Southerners” at Princeton are largely children of PhD’s at NIH in Maryland, the Research Triangle in North Carolina and blue island university towns in red states, all of which have plenty of Jews. What Southern effect there is, is compensated by the proximity to the New York, Philadelphia and Northern New Jersey area with large Jewish populations.

    All in all Princeton has a very similar population than Harvard and its Hillel counts things more strictly. The actual Jew fraction among whites must be relatively close at the two schools — as Nurit B found in her J1 and J2 counts.

    • Replies: @academic gossip
    , @FKA Max
  367. @academic gossip

    The more likely reality is that Princeton as a smaller school than Harvard has more athletes per capita, therefore a bit more Gentile in its white population, but has a similar fraction of Jews in its non-athlete white population

    Missing word added. (5 minute edit window a bit short for long comments…)

  368. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You don’t know anything about the Indians in American tech and you don’t know anything about thecAmerucan college entrance and professional certification exams.

    Yet you keep commenting as if you know something about the exams and Indians in tech.

  369. @Ron Unz

    my impression is that word of the extreme unlikelihood of acceptance has gradually gotten around over the last decade or so, and fewer and fewer “ordinary” white Gentiles are even bothering to apply and get humiliated. Getting accepted is probably just as difficult for Asians, but family pressure forces them to do so anyway.

    On the contrary, the wealthiest schools have been getting more and more applications, due to their financial aid programs, and the vicious spiral of lower admission rates leading to more applications leading to lower rates of admission.

    At the white and Asian application rates reported in the current Harvard lawsuit, any big increase in application numbers must include a rise in the number and percentage of whites who apply. There is a lot more room for growth in the white Gentile numbers than the Jewish ones. Harvard in the mid 2000s started a recruitment and financial aid initiative to raise the number of rural, lower-income and first generation college applicants and there are similar things at other schools. For all those reasons I would expect a growth in Gentile applications over time, not the contraction that you suppose. If you have evidence of a decline in Gentile application numbers (other than the auto-religious conviction that the Meritocracy piece was correct) that would be pretty interesting to see.

    • Replies: @Anon
  370. @Anon

    You do seem a bit obsessive about these things. Enough to disturb your psychological equilibrium and chatter about catching me out in an unstated lie while actually misquoting me! And not, you say, interested in my family you said!!)You don’t seem to have been calm enough to grasp that what I said was that the results were A*s in several separate A level subjects. Actually I compressed the facts a bit because I presumed that the younger who got 3 A*s and a D for distinction which is higher than A* would get in as her older sister who only got 3 x A*s and an A had already. And, now equally avoiding too ready identification I admit that I am making further inquiry about the SAT etc, directly to those that know. It may be that a course such as a combined double degree course [let's say Heidelberg two years then Princeton two years to give the true flavour] doesn’t necessarily require sitting for SAT (though I may have an answer to that in a few minutes) and so our mutual misunderstanding of the total reality is reconciled. Or of course you could be just dogmatically wrong :-)

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Tyrion 2
  371. @Anon

    Still keeping up a bit of a veil, though not so as to obscure any relevant reality, think of me as the rich uncle or gay cousin who regards it as philanthropic to ensure that those who might share his good genes and work hard can be helped by one of the family sayings:”we can’t afford it but we can pay for it”. Actually not 3 (where did you get that?) but 2 and I think the worthy occupations of the parents and their taxable incomes may be such as to ensure financial assistance.

  372. @Anon

    It’s so long since I saw the original Twelve Angry Men that I can’t remember my political/ideological reaction to it, and viewing it again on line on a phone in Dutch with English subtitles (or was it the other way round?), didn’t revive the memory. I can quite imagine how plenty of right of centre Americans might react today, judging by comments on UR. Of course Australia abolished capital punishment decades ago so the production I was in was adapted to take the emotional element of that out of it. And our powerful Lee J Cobb character was a feisty female prosecutor whose PhD thesis showed her to be a paid up feminist as well as good actor (I saw her later in The Vagina Monologues!

    My reaction for most of my life would have been underpinned by a strong belief in proof beyond reasonable doubt and somewhat intellectually snobbish disdain for popular prejudice. So… “liberal” in American terms? I don’t know. Liberal means the Mill version to me.

  373. utu says:
    @Anon

    First time I encountered the W. of O. character here the persona he projects here made me think of Major H. O. Jones from Graham Greene’s The Comedians. Boastful confidence man who is a caricature of Britishness. He was played by Alec Guinness in the film adaption.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @anon
  374. @Wizard of Oz

    Well it seems I was wrong about A levels being enough for my niece. She did do the SAT apparently and, apparently right in the middle of a lot of other activity including leading parts in plays instead of following the advice to take a gap year and do them then. Fortunately she made it.

  375. @Anon

    I don’t even remember how this began but you seem to have got into a muddle with false facts based on nothing but your misremembering something which you would be right to think unimportant. 3 was never a number you got from me.

    • Replies: @Anon
  376. Anonymous[155] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    the persona he projects

    That’s one of the main problems with Wiz. He’s old, dull and out of touch but still desperate to impress. Result: boring, flowery language wrapped around muddy arguments and zero insight. I regularly skip his “contributions”.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Wizard of Oz
  377. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    a D for distinction which is higher than A*

    That was on the Advanced Extension exam. Most people don’t know about it because most people don’t take it. A Distinction is the highest grade only on AE.

    The nature of your mistake means either you are the world’s most excellent liar or you’re telling the straight truth.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  378. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Comment 166 last paragraph your exact words.

    “ I have tall blonde blue eyed nieces who have been accepted by Ivy League colleges in the top 3. I gather their parents did research the SAT coaching business but they got in on excellent English A level reaults”

    Your exact words. Now it’s SATs and 11 A levels

    So your nieces did take the American SATs something you’ve denied for several comments.

    If you want to fight go get drunk and belligerent in Australia.

    • Troll: Tyrion 2
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  379. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @academic gossip

    Low income and first generation is the code for non White.

    Most rural Whites who have the grades and SATs to be competitive for Ivy League schools are 2nd and 3rd generation college grad families.

    Rural areas have accountants Drs attorneys and businesses as well as farmers and farm laborers.

    The White child of the a farmer attorney veterinarian or business owner will always be turned down in favor of a 3rd generation welfare black or brown.

  380. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    I think I’ll put him on my ignore list. He should have checked the admissions pages of some Ivy League schools before claiming the nieces got accepted on the strength of 1 A level in English.

    He just has to jump in whether he knows anything about the subject being discussed or not

  381. Harvard undergraduate admissions mystery regarding Asians versus Jews now solved!

    From New York Times, October 25, 2018

    http://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/us/harvard-admissions-trial-asian-americans.html

    Quote:

    Admissions documents filed in court awarded advantages to applicants for “unusually appealing personal qualities,” which could include “effervescence, charity, maturity and strength of character.” Now “reflective” could be a plus as well.

    effervescence = neurotic
    strength of character = presumptuous
    reflective = narcissistic

    Admissions paradox regarding Whites and Jews remains unspoken.

  382. @Anon

    You remind of the fact that even Rhodes Scholars who had been at top US universities – I have in mind one American in particular from Princeton who became a friend – were sometimes pushed to do supplementary English studies in London before going up to Oxford.

    Stanford apparently didn’t teach you to be able to notice that my words did not carry the meaning that I had 3 nieces. I had referred to more than one niece but it is obtuse of you to try to wring out of “in the top 3″ an unambiguous or even possible reference to my having family members at 3 universities especially when anyone with a flea’s attention span would remember that I was obviously avoiding identifying the particular university of which you asked the name and, quite explicitly, avoiding too much identifying information.

    As to identity, are you one and the same as the Commenter who used to use the moniker “Alden”? Why the change?

    • Replies: @Anon
  383. @Tyrion 2

    Thanks. I think I did probably get the AE included in the explanation when I asked about the meaning of D. I remained irritated that neither of them included maths in their subjects as I preach to all who will listen and many who won’t that the fundamentals for any bright child should include maths at a high level and that in 20 years time anyone who doesn’t speak Chinese will be like someone who doesn’t speak English today. I seem to have let slip an older mantra about Economic History being the next best thing to a replacement for the Classics as the foundation of a good education….

  384. @Anon

    Do you remember what the issue was originally that you decided to make such a porridge of? Probably not as you are still neurotically talking nonsense about “1 A level in English” which is conjured from nowhere but your fevered depths.

    Moreover you are plain silly jabbering about the Ignore list as a moment’s thought will tell you that it can’t work as you would like. If anyone is an unwelcome correspondent you can’t stop them arriving in your Inbox with a message aimed at you simply by replying to you.

    I suppose you could cut yourself off by choosing to provide a false email address, which is allowed, and thereby cut off your nose to spite your face because it would presumably misdirect all replies intended for you. What were the standards for admission to Stanford when you were admitted?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  385. @Anon

    And it is a bit superficial, if not naive, to suggest that looking at the “admissions page of *some* Ivy League schools” is going to give you the complete story. Perhaps you should have picked up your legacy and hoped to learn some rigour at Cornell.

    • Replies: @Anon
  386. anon[302] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    First time I encountered the W. of O. character here the persona he projects here made me think of Major H. O. Jones from Graham Greene’s The Comedians. Boastful confidence man who is a caricature of Britishness.

    lol, i was thinking Thurston Howell III from Gilligan’s Island

    he’s very concerned about keeping up appearances

  387. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Give it up. Your nieces did not get accepted at Ivy League colleges with just one A level as you first claimed before you thought to google admissions websites. Look at your comment 166 in which you stated they were accepted on just 1 A level.

    • Replies: @dearieme
  388. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    My SATs got me accepted at Stanford.

  389. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Most school science projects are done by the parents if only to get rid of the materials cluttering the living room.

    Between the homework burden, school projects and parental involvement duties home schooling is a better way to go.

    I don’t see the difference between 4 hours a day home schooling and 4 hours a day homework and projects after 6 or 7 hours at school.

    What are they doing at school that 3 hours of homework and school projects are necessary?

    How about school ends at 2 and they keep the kids in a homework study hall with tutors until 5 instead of throwing the responsibility all in the parents?

    If I hire someone to paint my house, I don’t work along with him her. If I hire an accountant I don’t redo his or her work
    Why should parents do the teachers work, especially when the parents commute and work 60 70 hour weeks to pay for the school system?.

  390. Cassandra says:
    @Roberto

    It doesn’t matter, the point is that the money stays in one place. You can hire the math kid and pay him a few hundred thousand, toss in some stock options, but the owners, the moneyed class, the ones making billions off the backs of those kids, they’re Goldman Sachs. They hire from Ivys and keep the money in the family.

  391. Ron Unz says:
    @Skeptikal

    I was shocked at the lack of qualifications for a position in the admissions dept. at Wellesley of a young woman of my personal acquaintance. This woman was very lah-de-dah when she described how the group would read through applications and basically joke as they tossed one into the acceptance pile and the next one into the rejection pile.

    This young woman had zero qualifications to be deciding on the fate of girls applying to Wellesley. She didn’t even seem to take her role seriously, and she herself was a graduate of a decent but not stellar college.

    That’s very consistent with the accounts of the three or four “insider” books I read on elite admissions practices, which totally shocked me at the time. Just imagine the enormous time and effort those top students had put into producing those application packages…

    Frankly, I think America’s current system for selecting the next generation of our national elites via those top colleges is about the strangest one could imagine. Probably something involving random selection would be less ridiculous, as I suggested at the end of my Meritocracy article.

  392. @Anon

    I went to a southern party school and I can tell you Dartmouth had nothing on us. In fact, I suspect Animal House was based on a southern school because the fictional band at the party, “Otis Day and the Knights,” is a black soul band, which was the rule at southern schools in those days (late 60s.) I suppose northern schools might also have gone in for black soul bands at frat parties, but at any rate they were standard in the south. Even white bands at frat parties played soul music exclusively, though by the end of the decade hippie music was taking over.
    As for all-male education, all or nearly all the Ivies were all-male in those days, as was my southern school, though some of the Ivies had female sister schools that were part of the same university in most respects (Radcliffe, Pembroke, Barnard come to mind.)
    “Coeducation” was the rule at state universities but many (most?) private liberal arts colleges were all-male or all-female.

    • Replies: @Anon
  393. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @jack daniels

    I think the writer of animal house was a Dartmouth alumnus that’s how the story spread.

    Those were the days. Fun fun and a great library.

  394. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Check your comment 166 about the 1 A level that got your nieces accepted at 3 Ivy League schools

  395. dearieme says:
    @Anon

    But he didn’t claim any such thing. I suggest that you translate his original comment into your mother tongue. That might clarify its meaning for you.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Wizard of Oz
  396. anon[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @dearieme

    why do you keep defending him?

    isn’t that twice now?

    • Replies: @Anon
  397. Skeptikal says:

    Re legacy applicants, it seems unavoidable that the more professors, administrators, and high-level donors are Jewish, the more of their children will be “legacy” applicants, and the number of legacy acceptances that are Jewish will keep growing, as the universe that produces Jewish legacy students continues to expand.

    As I stated before, I suspect that the demands of heavy-hitter Jewish donors with a chip on their shoulder about not being part of the final clubs scene is partially responsible for the jihad against these clubs. Even though most of the clubs have changed a lot, and, more important, there are many, many other clubs—also clubs for women—that are NOT final clubs, and these, too, are outlawed or their members are sanctioned. The Harvard administration states that the university will itself establish the clubs that students need for socializing and other purposes.

    Really, the uni will take over the brief of “creating” free association opportunities for the students?

    To me this screams totalitarianism and Gleichschaltung.

    In a previous chapter, maybe ca. twenty years ago, the Harvard houses were rigorously scrubbed of their unique personalities and atmosphere, created via a long-term process of self and other selection and also by the personality and interests of the house masters and house institutions. The core unit of the house was the suite, whereby a group of students (after freshman year) lived together in a quasi-apartment setting with individual bedrooms and a living room and one or two bathrooms. Many of these groups of friends, which formed in freshman year, stayed together for the whole four years, and remained close throughout their lives.

    So, first the assignment to a house after freshman year is now done by a computer or lottery something. No more house personality. (So, why shouldn’t admission to Harvard itself be done the same way? In fact, it appears that Harvard practices the type of discriminatory selection process that it accuses the clubs, in particular, final clubs, of doing.)

    Harvard also now disapproves of suite living and wants to force students into the house common room. I hear that the suite system is being destroyed: the interiors are being gutted and instead there will be fewer suites, if any, and mainly corridors with individual rooms. The bathrooms will be in the hallways, not within suites. Etc. Harvard is really reengineering itself according to “updated” management of students’ social life. It is highly ironic that what with all of this social engineering supposedly to advance diversity and throw together students who maybe just don’t want to be thrown together and would prefer to hang out with their friends in their suites and clubs, Harvard still keeps its finger on the admissions scales in a way that works against and belies these social engineering aims.

    Oh, yes, gotta build up the endowment! We don’t have enough money—or real estate–yet!!
    I am totally in favor of making Harvard undergraduate education free for all qualified students, as suggested by Ron Unz. Harvard can afford it. This would be the most effective way for Harvard to genuinely build up a cadre of highly intelligent, qualified leaders in this country, plus provide a model for the role that universities should play in preparing “future leaders.”

    NB: “Tuition fees at public universities in France have variable prices, depending on your chosen study level. Bachelor’s programmes, the average tuition fees are around ***190 EUR*** per year. Engineering degrees have higher tuition fees of around ***620 EUR*** per academic year.” (The public universities are the top-level universities.)

  398. @dearieme

    Thank you for noticing her neurotic semiliterate aggression based on utter trivia. She doesn’t seem to have noticed that I have long since admitted my error (trivial and irrelevant to the minor issue originally raised by my questioning whether memorisation of exam questions would be needed – the kind of comment I often make briefly when I suspect BS and hope to tease out evidence, or clarification).

    The problem seems to go back to my #140 where I was rude enough to point to her ambiguity and note that her gratuitous and erroneous (and offensively intended) assertion and assumption that I am Jewish said more about her than me.

    “Sad” as the Trumpster might say.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  399. @FKA Max

    I would be interested in your comments on the accuracy and the implications of some calculations I made 10 or 15 years ago in answer to Cochran’s heavy emphasis on the higher fertility of the smart businessmen and rabbis. I calculated that 500 years of depriving dim Jewish males (say 1.5 ad below average: I don’t remember my hypothetical cut off) of the chance to marry Jewish girls would lead on ordinary heritability assumptions to a rise in average IQ from 100 to 115. Greg was dismissive of the mechanism but didn’t dispute the maths. I recall citing the difficulty a dim kid might have in learning what was needed for a Bar Mitzvah and imagining a situation where a 35 year old widow/innkeeper with kids might take on a dim young man to cut the wood and share her bed occasionally but not father any children. I envisaged dim Jews joining the gentle peasant community if they survived at all.

    • Replies: @Anon
  400. @Anonymous

    Why would I want to impress you!? Why indeed would I want to impress 85 per cent of commenters even if wanting to impress people often styled “Anonymous” on internet blogs made sense? But I do enjoy my experiments.

  401. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Dearime is probably wizard of oz. the language and words are the same

    Your own comment 166 wizard No SATs just 1 A level got the nieces into 3 top Ivy colleges despite the fact that all the ivies require SATs.

  402. anon[439] • Disclaimer says:

    NB: “Tuition fees at public universities in France have variable prices, depending on your chosen study level. Bachelor’s programmes, the average tuition fees are around ***190 EUR*** per year. Engineering degrees have higher tuition fees of around ***620 EUR*** per academic year.” (The public universities are the top-level universities.)

    wow, the professors must work for free

  403. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Check the admissions websites. First line is required SATs.

    Maybe you should stop jumping in when you don’t know what you’re talking g about. Or at least do a little googling. You’re typical of your kind, thinking endless arguments will change facts.

    Doesn’t work with me. I took an entire semester of logic and syllogisms at Stanford. And although I’m not a Jew, I’ve been around them all my life and have a lot of their verbal ability, love of arguing and Talmudic reasoning. I can argue for hours although I try not to because it’s not polite. But I love it

    Plus, in this case, I’ve got the facts on my side and even the mega mega Talmudists can’t win an argument against facts

    All Ivies require SATs for admission
    A levels aren’t accepted for Ivy admission
    Therefore no one is accepted at Ivies by submitting 1 A level for admission

  404. Truth says:
    @gregor

    LOL, you do math like you defend takedowns, Connor.

  405. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    In regard to your earlier comments that the test prep companies don’t send their teachers professional test takers in to memorize specific questions, that’s how it works.

    After all the memorized questions are compiled and the correct answer arrived at, the test prep companies make a new test prep course and publish new test prep books

    It’s not just the college undergrad admissions. Even more people take the test prep courses for admission to grad school medical school and law school.

    Then there are the professional certification exams Bar, nurse doctor accountant Oracle and other computer and engineering certificates.

    It’s a big business. And the companies do have professional test takers /teachers who take the exams and memorize questions as well as teach the courses

    Not being an American, being totally unfamiliar with the test prep process and courses; you decided to jump
    In and post numerous comments displaying your ignorance .

    Keep on showing your ignorance and idiocy by defending your ignorance

  406. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    American test prep companies send their employees to take the tests and memorize questions. Test companies compile new test prep books and courses from those questions

    Wizard of Oz denies that American test prep companies compile new books and courses from the memorized questions

    Therefore, Wizard of Oz is wrong about American test prep courses.

    • Replies: @anon
  407. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You sure seem to know about how European Jews gradually eased out Jews who couldn’t make it according to their Yeshiva Boy or clever businessman standards

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  408. utu says:
    @gregor

    According to Ron Unz (Hillel data) 25% are Jews. According to Harvard 50% are whites including Jews. So 25% are white gentiles which are 50/50 male/female. So 12.5% are white male gentiles.

    I suspect that 50% of 12.5% are accepted on “academic merit” and 50% are accepted on “other considerations.”

  409. Anonymous[241] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Are you finished? At the risk of your assuming a paranoid addition to your obsessive persona and nominating this post as sock puppetry** for your beloved no-longer-admirer the Wizard may I point to a paper trail, so to speak, which places dearieme in the UK and WoZ in eastern Australa. Of course one can’t discount the possibility that a Wizard may have devised ways to beat even the new direct flights between UK and Oz….

    **never forgetting that some paranoid people ARE being followed…

    Nothing is as it seems. Should I pick up and repeat that question already posed? Why is the lady Alden now an Anon?

  410. anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    May I proffer some advice on clear thinking, analysis and exposition to anyone prone to being overtaken by agitation

    Take, as an illustrative example, an innocent enough question by an outsider as to why it could be necessary to get people to memorize a few questions for the purposes of coaching for exams.

    Here’s how you might rationally approach it. Say to the innocent questioner

    1. Consider first whether readily available papers/questions from previous years will suffice for prepping and how they may be used.

    Not sufficiently close to what the student is about to face because either there are radical changes from previous years or your students are too dumb to be expected to improvise at all on material that isn’t totally memorized and readied for regurgitation?

    2. So you need papers which are currently being used without adaptation or alteration at several different places and times so that, for those who can contrive to sit them late, they can be fully prepared with perfect answers (assuming they are not some of those test takers who, apparently, can only memorize 5 questions).

    3. Right, problem defined. Check, is it? OK we have got to learn what those current questions are asap. Do the testers actively prevent the exam papers being removed from the exam room? No need because the questions are not on any printed paper but on a temporary electronic display? Check that.

    4. Presumably those tested do have access to paper and instruments for writing on it so what is to stop some written on piece of paper with enough cryptic prompt to memory on it getting all the questions out at once? Body searches? Paper doesn’t show up well on magnetic or even X Ray scanners of people. But what about writing on skin, especially tattooed skin?

    5. Well now we have defined the problems everything falls into place, does it not?

    Well maybe :-)

  411. crimson2 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Hey, Ron, looks like one of your acolytes in Pittsburgh is killing some Jews. Great work you worthless Nazi cocksucker.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @aba
    , @Anon
    , @Wizard of Oz
  412. aba says:
    @Anonymous

    High Jewish intelligence is a(nother Jewish) myth. Every area they’ve infiltrated (MSM, banking, entertainment, education etc.) is experiencing cascading failures in direct proportion to the number of chosenites in charge. Colour me unimpressed.

    I am seeing that as well. Every institution the Jews take over, they inevitably run it to the ground, from Wall Street to Hollywood, DC swamp to Silicon Valley and everywhere in between – media, academia, law, medicine(esp. psychiatry).

    The main culprit is tribal allegiance. A few smart ones take over an industry, then hire and promote only other Jews who think the same (secular, liberal) and went to the same schools (Ivy League).

    The second biggest culprit is greed. Jews’ hunger for money and power means it’s always I’m here to take mine, eff everyone else. Thus they’ll do whatever’s necessary to get to the top and stay there, eff everyone else.

  413. anon[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @crimson2

    poor jews

    maybe it’ll make up for the Sacklers

    except the guy in Pittsburgh might even go to jail

  414. aba says:
    @crimson2

    Don’t shoot the messenger. Unz isn’t the one doing all the dirty deeds that are dragging down the country. Take a good look at your best representatives and what they are doing to the country – Soros, Zuckerberg, Brin/Page, Schumer, Blumenthal, Feinstein, Sanders, Adelson, Netanyahu, Debbie Wazzerman Schultz, all those running Hollywood, Wall Street, Ivy League, SV, the media, law.

    • Replies: @aba
    , @crimson2
  415. Ronnie says:

    IMHO the average Asian following the Harvard lawsuit has no idea about the overrepresentation of Jews at Harvard. I have asked some of them myself and they were totally ignorant of this. The Asian side, to support their case, is actually using the fact that Jews were the target of discrimination at Harvard in the past. The judge has said that she does not think that this is relevant. I would agree with that. In the New Yorker a few days ago Jeannie Suk Gersen has written that “by the class of 1930, as a result of the new discrimination plan, Jewish students made up only “ten” per cent of Harvard’s undergraduates.”

    But all the Jewish publications say that the percentage was reduced from 21% in 1922 to 15% in 1930

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/harvard-s-jewish-problem

    and also say that this had risen to 25% in the sixties (Hillel). http://www.reformjudaism.org/sites/default/files/Col_TopCharts_f14_F_spreads.pdf

    • Replies: @anon
  416. aba says:
    @aba

    And if there are more honest, self-critical Jews like Unz people might not despise them so much as a group, as they will be less likely to carry on with their Fuck America I do what’s best for me and my tribe mentality.

  417. crimson2 says:
    @aba

    Unlike you Nazi cocksuckers, I’m not going to shoot anybody. Ron spreads hate and encourages you fuckers. He’s a shitty person. You losers sit around here and blame some vast conspiracy for your personal failures. It’s pathetic.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @aba
    , @dcite
  418. utu says:
    @crimson2

    Ron spreads hate…

    Mr. Unz is searching for truth and is uncovering many lies. If truth is hate then something is wrong with you and the world to which you belong.

  419. aba says:
    @crimson2

    Jews like you is the reason why there’s such widespread anger with Jews. Look in the mirror before you blame everyone else for hating you and your kind. Dishonesty, arrogance and lack of introspection will always bring disaster, to any group.

  420. aba says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Without a high tech industry, what do Indians do in Australia with all their supposed “high IQ”? Cutting hair?

    High immigration will eventually bring about a self-sustaining economy for each group, i.e. large number of Indian/Chinese/Mexican/Middle Eastern businesses catering only to their own diaspora. The native whites are left in the cold and have no choice but to form their own faction to fight back. Instead of a melting pot, you end up in a parallel universe with many countries existing within a country, each group doing its own thing, with little to no interaction between groups. Each group wants to elect its own politicians to enact laws that benefit only that group instead of the whole country. We are seeing this now with Jews, blacks, Hispanics and Indians increasingly looking out for its own group interest in the US.

    A nation divided against itself cannot stand. High immigration and multiculturalism will eventually bring about collapse of every western country.

  421. JLK says:

    Both gratuitous anti-semitism and profanity are unhelpful.

    Ron has identified a potential issue of an inexplicable overrepresentation of Jewish students at Harvard and a few bloggers have presented a high-level rebuttal. I wouldn’t call either the analysis or rebuttal scientifically rigorous, but both are scientific to some extent. The debate highlights an issue that seems worthy of deeper study. If Ron’s thesis is true, the mechanisms that led to the overrepresentation should be determined in the interests of a fair society. No powerful group should be immune to study and criticism. If his conclusions are incorrect, the unfair inferences raised should be dispelled.

    There should be more such high-level dialogue on controversial issues on the alternative web. Too much of the content is off the wall, poorly reasoned and half-baked.

    • Replies: @crimson2
    , @utu
  422. J says: • Website

    Unz: Your anti-Jewish incitement is effective: Jewish blood shed in Pittsburgh. Are you aware of what you are doing?

    • Agree: crimson2
    • Replies: @anon
    , @peterAUS
  423. peterAUS says:
    @aba

    Spot on.

    I am sure that the group “Wizard” is part of knows that. They are smart people….up to a point, of course.

    They simply believe that in that environment their group will still make all the rules and retain all the main power. Maybe they are correct there.

    Or, maybe they are for some nasty surprises.

  424. anon[449] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ronnie

    In the New Yorker a few days ago Jeannie Suk Gersen has written that “by the class of 1930, as a result of the new discrimination plan, Jewish students made up only “ten” per cent of Harvard’s undergraduates.”

    such a tragedy, limited to 5X their percentage of the population in those institutions built by white folks

  425. anon[449] • Disclaimer says:
    @J

    revealing jewish behaviour tends to make folks angry, that’s why (((they))) want to clamp down on Free Speech

  426. peterAUS says:
    @J

    Are you aware of what you are doing?

    You are, of course.

    C’mon….spell it out here: what exactly would you like Unz to do (or not to do, for that matter )?
    1….
    2….
    etc….

    Can’t wait.

    • Replies: @crimson2
  427. crimson2 says:
    @JLK

    Both gratuitous anti-semitism and profanity are unhelpful.

    Equating profanity with anti-semitism and Holocaust denial is some serious fucking bullshit. Ron Unz’s entire website is devoted to anti-semitism. That’s what he does.

    • Replies: @JLK
    , @anon
  428. crimson2 says:
    @peterAUS

    C’mon….spell it out here: what exactly would you like Unz to do (or not to do, for that matter )?

    How about not tonguing the asshole of every Nazi on the internet?

    Hope he runs for Senate in California again, because it will be very fun for me.

    • Replies: @aba
  429. JLK says:
    @crimson2

    Resorting to profanity sets a shrill, desperate tone. You are a very capable writer. Some of your other posts made me think. You would be much more effective if you avoided profanity.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @crimson2
  430. anon[349] • Disclaimer says:
    @crimson2

    Ron Unz’s entire website is devoted to anti-semitism. That’s what he does.

    the truth is often anti-semitic

  431. aba says:
    @crimson2

    Unz’s only sin is his commitment to free speech. The shooter is a user of Gab.com, a forum committed to free speech. Don’t blame free speech for this tragedy, blame the actions of those who claim to represent you and your interest, when they are in fact acting in their own best interest.

    Liberals are always quick to blame all shootings on “mental illness” when the targets are white, but when the targets are non-white, they immediately label it “hate crime”. Either all shooters are mentally ill and therefore “victims” themselves, or they are all hateful evil people. Which is it? Make up your mind. Enough with the double standard.

    Btw the shooter is a Trump hater. He called Trump a globalist.

    • Replies: @FKA Max
  432. utu says:
    @JLK

    both are scientific to some extent

    From what I have seen in Ron Unz presentation it is as scientific as it can be under given circumstances. He used Weyl or its variation method to estimate Jewish fraction in NMS data. Then he used the same method to estimate Jewish fraction in Princeton data. This result checked out with the Hillel estimate for Princeton. This validates his method against Princeton Hillel data. And keep in mind that Princeton Hillel data (13%) are at low end of the Ivy schools and were not contested by Ms. Baytch and others.

    He used Hillel data for other schools including Harvard. Everybody used their data and cited them in various articles ( I saw some in Israel’s papers) until Ron Unz published his article when it became an issue made only by three of his critics, including Ms. Baytch. Hillel never retracted or retroactively corrected their data though recently they started to report numbers lower by circa factor of two in some schools. Possibly now they report only Jews who are active in Hillel programs or possibly they lie.

    Let suppose just for the sake of an argument that Hillel in the past due to ethnic pride and exuberance overestimated numbers of Jews by factor of two. Then the Jewish fraction at Harvard would drop to 12.5% and white gentile fraction would increase to 37.5% which gives a ratio of 1:3. This is a 10 times over representation of Jews with respect to Whites as the ratio of Jews to Whites is about 1:30 in the US and 6 time Jewish over representation in terms of general population.

    Ms. Baytch could say that Ron Unz himself showed that NMS implies 6% Jews on merit and thus the 12.5% is only two fold overrepresentation of Jews at Harvard. However the title of the article is “Racial Discrimination at Harvard” and it is Whites who are the chief victims of discrimination and they are discriminated at 10:1 with respect to Jews.

    But this was just let suppose. I believe that Hillel was reporting correct numbers. Hillel was doing what every Jewish organization does which means fishing out Jewish names from any list of names that falls in their hand. Every rabbi assigned to a jail or prison as a chaplain does it and within few days is able to contact new Jewish arrivals. Hillel is not just interested in religious practicing Judaism Jews but probably even more so in the lost sheep. Hillel is open to all Jews as part of its mission is to promote Judaism among Jews.

    Now return to 25% number of Jews in Harvard and 25% Whites in Harvard which I believe are correct. The numbers can be interpreted as follows in terms of over/under-representation:

    Jews are overrepresented by ratio 12.5:1.
    Whites are underrepresented by ratio: 2.5:1.
    Whites are discriminate at ratio 30:1 with respect to Jews

    Now let’s as calculate the same under the assumption that recruitment should reflect the merit which would be proportional to Ron Unz’s results for NMS which established 6% Jews. Let us underestimate Whites on NMS lists and make it 50% for gentile Whites presuming that remaining 44% are most likely Asians. Thus on merit Jewish to White ratio should be 1:8.33, however it is 1:1 at Harvard. Which means that on merit:

    Jews are overrepresented by ratio 4.16:1
    Whites are underrepresented by ratio 2:1
    Whites are discriminated at ratio 8.33:1 with respect to Jews.

    • Replies: @crimson2
  433. I was a white Protestant kid from a flyover state who went to an Ivy League school. I also happened to be politically conservative.

    There were only a handful of people of my background. It was pretty depressing.

    On the other hand, the Jewish kids seemed to have a blast.

    I won’t encourage my children to follow in my footsteps. I will steer them to the local Christian College where they can meet people more like them. Rankings be damned.

    • Replies: @Bolteric
  434. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    Not surprised. Harvard is a school of greedy bastards, by greedy bastards, and for greedy bastards. Their goal is to cultivate more greedy bastards to keep the franchise going for as long as possible.

  435. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @denk

    Most of the CIA was run by the tribe, even if the front man is often a gentile.

    If I were POTUS, I’d take a sledgehammer to the CIA and smash it to smithereens. No other institution has done more to stir up trouble in all corners of the globe than this group of meddlesome evil crackpots.

    Trump railed against them on the campaign trail, but is now part of the swamp.

    If whites are so evil to China, why do so many Chinese keep coming here? So they could come in and make trouble to return the favor? I wish more Americans would wise up and heed your warning.

  436. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anarcho-Supremacist

    All those born abroad should be considered foreign students, and evaluated alongside their co-ethnics from the home country as foreign students, regardless of what passport they hold.

    Congress should then pass a law requiring all universities that receive any form of funding from the US government, be it for research or PELL grant or student loans, to limit their foreign enrollment to no more than 2% of total enrollment. That’s how you put America first.

    Trump’s MAGA agenda is a load of baloney.

  437. This won’t change until the ethnocentric leadership of these institutions is run out. In EVERY situation in history where Jews are given access, they ultimately push their own ethnic interests while actively opposing other groups that do the same. How many expulsions will it take for people to realize this?

  438. @Ron Unz

    Mr. Unz, thank you for doing the yoeman’s work on this important topic.

    I was wondering if you had seen the breakdown of Jewish students at the military service academies?

    Surely that data could be obtained through public records requests and must be available somewhere.

    I see from the NCES data that white enrollment has declined over the years at the various service academies. I’m curious if you knew what percentage of that white enrollment was gentile.

    The service academies are definitely elite institutioans drawing from top academic performers, but presumably they would not be subjected to the same overt bias in the admissions process.

    It would be interesting to compare their rates to those of the other elite schools.

  439. Anon[631] • Disclaimer says:
    @crimson2

    Oy vey, cry me a river! How are mentions of unfair college admissions, even related to the grievances of the Pittsburgh goy? Are you sure Unz is not also responsible for ‘concentration camps’?

    • Replies: @anon
  440. FKA Max says: • Website
    @aba

    This move will just radicalize more people, imo, …

    [MORE]

    From the shooter’s gab.com account, he reposted this comment:

    First Trump came for the Charlottesville 4 but I kept supporting Trump because he is better than Hillary Clinton.
    Then Trump came for the Rise Above Movement but I kept supporting Trump because he is better than Hillary Clinton.
    Then Trump came for the Proud Boys but I kept supporting Trump because he is better than Hillary Clinton.
    Then Trump came for me and the[re] was no one left to suppor…

    https://archive.is/k63LE#selection-4147.0-4165.60

    Gab.com
    Verified account @getongab

    Breaking: @joyent, Gab’s new hosting provider, has just pulled our hosting service. They have given us until 9am on Monday to find a solution. Gab will likely be down for weeks because of this. Working on solutions. We will never give up on defending free speech for all people.
    6:50 PM – 27 Oct 2018

    https://twitter.com/getongab/status/1056362626077220865

  441. Bolteric says:
    @James Braxton

    Thanks for the post. I made the huge mistake of quoting The Gospel in my application essay. Denial from P & Y (x2). Several students below my academic record got in, as they offered membership in a special catergory of race, religion or athletics. Mom rather rudely pointed out to the HS counselor – who herself married to a Jew – that U Penn was very Jewish. I was raised Episcopalian, which had apparently very high marks as a group. I eventually went to perhaps the best school in America, got in twice in fact, though admittedly father and gradfather were grads. Grandad was a WWII veteran that obtained a rare Masters in Science degree. I was not especially happy being there. The liberal elitism was thick. The college has had 40-50 years of Jewish presidents. I would concur with Unz’s assertion that the doling out and receiving of Anti-Semitism has been limited in my view throughout the course of life (minus a few forgivable micro-aggressions.) I’ve had good Jewish friends and a girlfriend along the way. I married a woman who is ex-Catholic, and “we” are choosing to raise the kids non-religious, though I like to think I maintain a quite, meek Christian faith. I apologize for sharing my personal grievance here, but I find this article sad, but probably true.

  442. @aba

    I don’t know what Indians do in Australia who aren’t students (of which there are a lot and working often part time in supermarkets and service stations). I know/have come across a barrister with a specialty in medical negligence, a qualified accountant driving a taxi and a number of Sikhs working in real estate. And there are plenty of nurses, and, come to think of it, doctors including a cardiologist who supervised an exercise echocardiogram recently.

    There is no sign of their having their own schools, let alone ones divided by caste or religion (though Muslims have schools which I guess don’t have much to do with Indians). I am sure there will be a lot of intermarriage with non Indians by those whose education has been in Australia but Australia has not been attracting large numbers of immigrants from India for long.

    So I am not inclined to worry about Indians undermining existing mainstream Australia.

  443. I suspect “Wizard of OZ” is an Indian (dot) immigrant to Oz. Perhaps from a different class/caste from his (mostly) dark and tubby ethnic brethren in the states. Still an Indian at heart. His is a very very characteristic Indian (dot) personality type. I don’t know how to describe it but lets say you are trying to woo a very pretty babe who has an ugly friend, whose father has recently gotten fabulously rich (monetarily). She is with her pretty friend all the time.

    She looks at you with longing yet she is full of hate that she can never ever attract you. She is hence petty, jealous, her wealth makes her a pompous bulb (however she doesn’t recognize this). She is bombastic, passive aggressive and crude. You get the picture now don’t ya? After working with many many Indians for the last 13 years in the US IT industry (which these Indians now almost completely control), I can vouch for it. And I bet other white veterans in the industry, who have miraculously managed to survive the Indian onslaught would have something similar to share.

    I think a few links should help
    (Just how should we describe your average Indian personality in the west especially the US??)

    https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Yb_cVdsYr_0J:https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/01/25/repost-the-indian-personality-superiority-and-inferiority-complexes-intertwined/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=my&client=firefox-b

    https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:JqOU2BraV90J:https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2016/12/06/racist-elitist-arrogant-indian-man-kanwal-rekhi-by-magneto/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=my&client=firefox-b-ab

    Some jewels from the above links:
    Kanwal Rekhi was reacting to Steve Bannon’s statement about there being too many Asian CEO’s in Silicon Valley. Kanwal reacts with the typical Indian elitism which is to call White people as “uneducated”. I have also noticed this same attitude in many Indians. They gloat and feel great pride in taking so many high-paying jobs in America and Europe and they are happy to see White people homeless and unemployed. I was once at my dentist and he told me, “The day will soon come when the majority of Americans are unemployed because Indians are taking all of the jobs”.
    Now, why do Indians feel this way? It is due to their massive inferiority complex towards White people. Indians know that they are too stupid to ever develop their own country, so they have no choice but to go live in Western countries that were built by White people and parasitize White people’s achievements. Why do Indian men especially have this inferiority complex which they try to mask as a superiority complex?

    Because Indian men are the most Beta men on the planet. If you look up the term “Beta Male” in the dictionary, you will find a picture of an Indian man there. Most Indian men are spineless pussies – in essence “momma’s boys” – due to the matriarchal culture of India. So when such Beta male Indian men go to the West, they immediately feel very insecure and inferior to the more masculine and aggressive White men they encounter on a daily basis. Indian men begin to realize that they are too Beta for most White women whom they worship, adore, and fantasize about, so they begin to develop an impotent rage. So whenever you see Indian men making comments like this, you know it is due to the “Little Man Syndrome” Indian men have towards White men.

    Most of them have this white searing hatred for whites and are actually a lot more dangerous for white well being. And I think they are a lot more dangerous than admitting people from the ivory coast or Indonesia who just don’t have this ultra pompous attitude towards us (although at this point, having an immigration moratorium seems the best option). They’d be just happy to be here while the Indian would most likely think it’s an honor for whitey to have him here instead. I’m beginning to become completely pissed off them at this stage of my life. Of what they’ve done to us and their general chutzpah about it. When things start becoming unglued, most of our current (((overlords))) would have fled already. But by then these dotheads would have taken their place as the most richest, the most arrogant, new elites and they’d pay a heavy price for it.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @FKA Max
    , @RIPINDIA
  444. anon[206] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Are you sure Unz is not also responsible for ‘concentration camps’?

    Unz is the new Hitler, lol

  445. @crimson2

    Do you really think that the kind of antisemites who read Unz Review articles are men of action, let alone mad violent ones like the Pittsburgh murderer? Do you think madmen like him read and are influenced by webzines like UR? Or is your outburst just a way of making your disgust with Ron’s articles vivid and conveying your anger to Ron? One of my non Jewish relations objected immediately to casual support for Holocaust denial appearing in the article putting forward legitimate questions about Ivy League admissions. But isn’t it best to counter what you object to by careful analysis of fact and argument leading sometimes to refutation and even – I’ve know it happen – retraction or qualification?

    • Replies: @crimson2
    , @anon
  446. utu says:
    @WhiteyInIT

    Why there are no recordings of them talking among themselves? Perhaps we need to start spying on them.

    I think you are wrong about WoO.

  447. crimson2 says:
    @JLK

    Resorting to profanity sets a shrill, desperate tone

    Actually, profanity is simply a way to mark one’s displeasure, frustration and anger without resorting to physical violence. Studies have shown that profanity can increase pain tolerance as well as relieve stress. It is also useful in that it can shock those with weak minds. It is simply a fallacy to think that you can deduce someone’s entire personality–or even their mental state–from their use of obscenities, you cunt.

    • Replies: @anon
  448. crimson2 says:
    @utu

    Jews are overrepresented by ratio 4.16:1
    Whites are underrepresented by ratio 2:1
    Whites are discriminated at ratio 8.33:1 with respect to Jews.

    Loser, racist whites begging for affirmative action is the funniest fucking thing I’ve seen in ages.

  449. crimson2 says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Do you really think that the kind of antisemites who read Unz Review articles are men of action, let alone mad violent ones like the Pittsburgh murderer? Do you think madmen like him read and are influenced by webzines like UR?

    While most of the pathetic losers here are far too timid to do anything, I have no doubt taht someone reading or commenting here will commit a hate crime or has committed one already. It’s inevitable given the crowd that Ron attracts.

    Or is your outburst just a way of making your disgust with Ron’s articles vivid and conveying your anger to Ron?

    That too.

    But isn’t it best to counter what you object to by careful analysis of fact and argument leading sometimes to refutation and even – I’ve know it happen – retraction or qualification?

    Scholars of the holocaust have been doing that for years. It’s only so effective. Maybe a new tactic is needed. Right now, Ron is under the radar, but it’s my intention to make sure that people know that enemies of Affirmative Action are closet Nazis.

  450. @crimson2

    I wouldn’t have guessed you are such a passionate supporter of affirmative action. I shall look out for it in your comments. I can see plenty of scope for legitimate honest argument against particular instances and classes of affirmative action with arguments that it hasn’t worked and can’t work thrown in. More legitimately the persistence of some failed or no longer justified programs could be argued against. But that’s really a theoretical view by an outsider.

  451. Anon[312] • Disclaimer says:
    @crimson2

    Hasbara won’t recoup their 10 dollar an hour investment here, because they are not sending their brightest. In America, blame for future or imaginary crimes is not yet acceptable.

    Also, no one here says kill the Jews. All sane people want those Jews with an attachment to America and to all Americans to stay and prosper. We only put minimal pressure on those with love for various Middle-Eastern or European entities to go there. If you are happier with Netanyahu, go live with Netanyahu. If you think Saturday is time for segregation and rituals of open despise against all other Americans, please go away.

    Using the most remote pretext to shut down this debate only makes you unfairness more obvious.

    • Replies: @crimson2
  452. peterAUS says:
    @crimson2

    ….it’s my intention to make sure that people know that enemies of Affirmative Action are closet Nazis.

    An excellent idea. Please do that.

    A bit disappointing too. All that obvious passion and nothing really new there. People are called Nazis for a lot of things today.
    I was hoping to hear something new.

    I am sure there will be article about the shooting and such, so, not keen on going O.T. here.
    The thing is….the guy was saying, in Internet, he was going to do something.

    Your problem is that the language today is so fucked up that people can say whatever they want and no way to know what they actually mean.
    FFS, we have that bitch with the President’s head on this very site. We have people stating openly about assassinating the President and nothing happens.
    Rap songs. Countless tweets. Millions comments on Internet mention something as “I am going to….”. The very language is broken. That’s the paradigm we live in.
    It simply looks as…..all that Internet control and monitoring is for nothing.
    THAT is interesting.

    Apologize for O.T. Looking forward to an article going into this.

    Out.

  453. anon[254] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    One of my non Jewish relations objected immediately to casual support for Holocaust denial appearing in the article putting forward legitimate questions about Ivy League admissions.

    sounds like they’ve been trained well

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Wizard of Oz
  454. anon[254] • Disclaimer says:
    @crimson2

    Studies have shown that profanity can increase pain tolerance as well as relieve stress. It is also useful in that it can shock those with weak minds.

    nah, its just reveals those with low class and a lack of control

  455. anon[254] • Disclaimer says:
    @crimson2

    but it’s my intention to make sure that people know that enemies of Affirmative Action are closet Nazis.

    supporters of affirmative action are generally inferior or members of the tribe that want to use it as a weapon against whites such as in Ivy League admissions

    • Replies: @crimson2
  456. Anonymous[905] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Exactly. Being conditioned to outright not think about a certain subject is pathetic.

    Luckily – a curious mind will reject it.

  457. FKA Max says: • Website
    @WhiteyInIT

    One can probably not get anymore Anglo-Australian than commenter Wizard of Oz:

    Maybe you ate [sic] telling this Australian descendant of three convicts (1796, 1798 and 1820 – the last pardoned, the former two married with the man a British colonial soldier by 1799**)

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-worlds-iq-86/#comment-2056642

    I agree with utu, that you most probably are wrong about him.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz