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In a recent interview I was asked why Bernie Sanders, a self-described “democratic socialist” had seemingly attracted so much support among young people. In fact polls suggest Sanders is the most popular candidate among people aged 18-29, and 51 percent of that same age group appears fed up with “capitalism in its current form,” according to a recent Harvard study.

It was just four years ago that so many young people turned out to hear and support my message of personal liberty, non-aggression, and non-intervention at home and abroad. I was thrilled that so many young people were attracted to a candidate whose main message was “I don’t want to run your life.”

Socialism, of course, is the opposite philosophy. The socialist philosophy has at its core the desire to run people’s lives. It is by design an authoritarian system. Who would willingly give up so much of their own property to the state to redistribute to others? That is where the use of government force comes into play. Socialism tells how much of your money you can keep, how you can spend it, if you can spend it, which of your personal habits must be modified in order to qualify for your “free” healthcare, what course of study you must pursue to qualify for your “free” education, and so on.

But we also know the false promises can be very seductive. Socialism preys on that human fault that would like to have something for nothing. You deserve an education, the socialist tells young people, so I will give you one for free. He never tells the student that he will pay for that education many times over in the hidden tax called inflation. Or the student may “pay” for that education with unemployment after college as his potential employer was forced to shut down over the high taxes required to pay for all the things the socialist promises.

So am I surprised that it seems so many young people have fallen for the seductive lies of socialism? Well I don’t really believe they have. They are frustrated by a system they are told is capitalism. They are angry over the same things I have been talking about for years.

Our current system is far from the free-markets that we in the Austrian school of economics espouse. We have a system of cronyism, corporatism, inflationism, regulated and managed trade to the benefit of special interests, and the criminality of central banking. Unfortunately because of our faulty and biased education system and the relentless propaganda of the mainstream media, many young people are taught that the mess they see all around them is all caused by “capitalism.”

Politics is about getting people excited about a candidate. Ours is a much longer effort. The young generation that first attended my rallies in 2007 is by now in its mid-20s. They are raising a new generation that in many cases will be home-schooled and outside the propaganda machine that is modern public education. They understand that the real freedom revolution will not be won at the ballot box, but in the battleground of ideas. They continue to learn the freedom philosophy and they support the various educational organizations that provide the intellectual ammunition for our fight. I am more optimistic than ever that our message is taking hold and growing deep roots. Ideas really can change the world.

Contrary to what many would like us to believe, the Freedom Revolution is alive and well!

(Republished from The Ron Paul Institute by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Our current system is far from the free-markets that we in the Austrian school of economics espouse. We have a system of cronyism, corporatism, inflationism, regulated and managed trade to the benefit of special interests, and the criminality of central banking. Unfortunately because of our faulty and biased education system and the relentless propaganda of the mainstream media, many young people are taught that the mess they see all around them is all caused by “capitalism.”

    This is why I defend the minimum wage against people who oppose it because free markets. What free markets? Another commenter put his finger on the real problem when he asked “What will be the minimum for foreigners?” If immigration is not stopped and current illegals either deported or naturalized a higher minimum only means more work for foreigners.

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    So morons who want government get screwed over by government and the solution is then more government. Nonsense, they are getting what they deserve.

    To paraphrase Diderot, man will never be free until the last last government worker is strangled with the entrails of the last voter.
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  2. gdpbull says:

    Occasionally, the Ron Paul followers are accused of being a cult, that is, sometimes people say Ron Paul has a cult following. That claim is absurd. First of all, cult leaders are always charismatic. Ron Paul has no charisma. Heck, he doesn’t even have any personality. He’s about as boring as they get. And yet he does have a devoted following. The reason is inescapable. Its because of his ideas. His message is brutally correct. He is an equal opportunity sacred cow slaughterer.

    But his warnings and advice fall mostly on deaf ears. He is labelled as a kook by the foreign policy establishment and mainstream economists. Never mind that our foreign policy has been a disaster, and central banking around the world, all of whom follow the keynesian or monetarist school of thought have been proven wrong over and over. But they just keep doubling down. Japan has been the keynesian test tube for decades, but they still won’t admit their wacko-bird theories are not working.

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  3. Renoman says:

    Socialism for the Rich, Capitalism for the poor, that’s America in a nutshell.

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    Socialism by way of the tribal foragers, crony-capitalism by way of the hierarchical pharaonicists, free markets by way of the 1% who believe in freedom.

    Oh. That's why free markets don't exist.
    , @RadicalCenter
    You've got the right idea, that's for sure.

    I'd just say: more like "socialism for the poor and the rich, mostly harsh capitalism for the middle class."
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  4. tsotha says:

    So am I surprised that it seems so many young people have fallen for the seductive lies of socialism? Well I don’t really believe they have. They are frustrated by a system they are told is capitalism. They are angry over the same things I have been talking about for years.

    If only that were true. The complete takeover of the education establishment by leftists is bearing fruit after decades of work.

    These kids have been the subject of socialist propaganda since entering the public school system at age 5. They got extra credit for joining marches in high school. They were required to take ethnic and gender studies classes in lieu of the classes on western thought that used to be taught in college, where they learned to hate white people, especially the white people that founded the US. They don’t know who James Madison is, and they think Che Guevara is someone to emulate.

    If they really understood what had been done to them we’d have a bloody revolution. We probably will, eventually, anyway. The future is a lot bleaker than you imagine.

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  5. @WorkingClass

    Our current system is far from the free-markets that we in the Austrian school of economics espouse. We have a system of cronyism, corporatism, inflationism, regulated and managed trade to the benefit of special interests, and the criminality of central banking. Unfortunately because of our faulty and biased education system and the relentless propaganda of the mainstream media, many young people are taught that the mess they see all around them is all caused by “capitalism.”

     

    This is why I defend the minimum wage against people who oppose it because free markets. What free markets? Another commenter put his finger on the real problem when he asked "What will be the minimum for foreigners?" If immigration is not stopped and current illegals either deported or naturalized a higher minimum only means more work for foreigners.

    So morons who want government get screwed over by government and the solution is then more government. Nonsense, they are getting what they deserve.

    To paraphrase Diderot, man will never be free until the last last government worker is strangled with the entrails of the last voter.

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  6. @Renoman
    Socialism for the Rich, Capitalism for the poor, that's America in a nutshell.

    Socialism by way of the tribal foragers, crony-capitalism by way of the hierarchical pharaonicists, free markets by way of the 1% who believe in freedom.

    Oh. That’s why free markets don’t exist.

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  7. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says: • Website

    Well…. there is the Alt Right revolution.

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  8. mcs_in_ny says:

    There is no such thing as a free market. Like a magnetic monopole, it is a theoretical fiction. The closest thing to it would be something like a barter system. As soon as you introduce the concept of money, markets become susceptible to rigging by those empowered to declare what money is and in control of the supply of same. Central banking is an obvious deleterious example of this but the principle applies even if you are on a gold standard.

    Austrian economists fail to understand that what they call “cronyism” or “corporatism” is really just capitalism as it evolves in the real world, as opposed to the theoretical one that the Austrians inhabit.

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    There is no such thing as a free market. Like a magnetic monopole, it is a theoretical fiction. The closest thing to it would be something like a barter system. As soon as you introduce the concept of money, markets become susceptible to rigging by those empowered to declare what money is and in control of the supply of same.
     
    The introduction of money does not prevent a free market, sorry. Don't confuse a potential for manipulation with some purported loss of "free" qualities in the sense intended with "free market'.
    , @Brad Smith
    Actually they do understand this but they also get that it's not a matter of Black or White. It's not 100% free market or no free market at all. There can be 50% free markets or 80% free markets or 10% free markets, etc. etc.

    Think of it this way, the more free the market, the more liberty and prosperity you will have. No it's not going to be 100% but if you move from 10% to 50% that is actually a large victory. Change it up and it's a large defeat.

    The question then becomes this; Are you willing to give up and stop fighting for "free(er)" markets? If so then explain how something other than Free Markets (relatively speaking) is better? Seriously, I read the Communist Manifesto as well, and Marx did a great job of pointing out the flaws in capitalism. Sadly he had no working solution. Do you have one? If so I would be willing to listen with an open mind. (Please don't say "co-op's", nothing in the Austrian School is against them in any way, so that isn't an alternative but part of what we already suggest as a solution)

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  9. Rurik says:

    What Happened to the Revolution?

    the Revolution is still alive Dr. Paul, but the mantle has been passed on to Donald Trump to wield as our putative champion.

    I am and certainly was one of your biggest supporters, and was extremely hopeful and ready to support your son Rand, if he was even a fraction of the man you are. And even when the neocon rhetoric started to seep from his lips, I was still hopeful, thinking he was just playing the game. But then it became clear..

    “Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is a gross violation of that nation’s sovereignty and an affront to the international community.”

    ~ Rand Paul

    Paul: It is important that Russia become economically isolated until all its forces are removed from Crimea….

    and he lied about the Iran deal, deliberately mischaracterizing Iran’s statements on their intentions.

    In short, to answer your question, ‘What Happened to the Revolution?’

    Your son happened to it. He is a huge disappointment and it seem has succumbed to the depravity of treason and corruption that is the US Senate.

    Perhaps one day he can redeem himself, especially by supporting Donald Trump and being a voice for peace and liberty in the Senate.

    Trump is not perfect, but compared to Hillary he’s Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson rolled into one. We all know that Hillary means more war and less liberty, to say the least.

    So now that the mantle has been passed, the leader of the Revolution is Donald Trump, and we all need to align behind him, until such time as he proves that he’s just another stooge of the Fiend, (that your son has regretfully demonstrated his willingness to be).

    BTW, I look forward to your appointment as Treasury Secretary Dr. Paul. God speed to you sir.

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    Well, Rurik, Rand Paul did endorse Donald Trump, which is a start toward his redemption. Whether or not he'll be a voice for peace and liberty in the Senate, we'll have to delay judgement. The fact that he's come out in support of the Donald has given some leverage.
    Indeed, the mantle of the revolution has been passed from Dr. Ron Paul to Trump, who has also pledged to overhaul this nation's immigration problem and eliminate the unconstitutional Obamacare and replace it with a better system.
    The Donald has also pledged to change America's foreign policy to make it more similar to the foreign policy advocated by Dr. Paul 4 years ago; i.e., forge friendship and trade with not only Russia and China, but also with all nations. There have been rumors floating around that Trump would consider appointing Dr. Paul as Secretary of State, if he wins the general election. Treasury Secretary sounds very good also.
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  10. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    You dropped the ball…Dr Paul. Bad…
    You were asked about 911, and had the National Stage, which everybody with a high 2 digit IQ knows was a Mossad Job, and all you had to say was ‘I support a New investigation’ but you did nothing. You shilled and lied.
    I knew then you were a plant. Or some kind of controlled opposition.
    You wont build a Wall or deport illegals, the end result will be we will no longer have a nation as a result. That among other issues, makes you weak.
    Good Riddance.
    Trump 2016

    PS Tell your son to worry about American affairs, not Israels affairs and stay away from the whining wall, taking off his yamalka in so doing.

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  11. bvki says:

    What happened to the revolution? They tried to go “mainstream” and lost their soul…that’s what happened. I know because I was there from the start and watched it happen.

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  12. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    how dare ron paul ask this shit, him and his son both masons, lol

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  13. Sean2007 says:

    Libertarianism is just a scam to remove what few restraints the system imposes on the ruling elite and allow them to rob us blind, in the name of “freedom.” The fact is capitalism cannot exist without the state, and our current system with private enterprise controlling the state and bending it to its own purposes is precisely how capitalism plays out in the real world. Paul conveniently ignores the fact that is it the private banking cartels that have led us into this mess in the first place. They are allowed to lend out more money than they have essentially stealing it from their depositors to gamble at will and all it takes is a bank run for the whole scam to come crashing down: no government required. He who controls the spice controls the universe and the capitalist class that controls the money supply tends to limit access to club members, How many times has Trump gone bankrupt and been bailed out? And with whose money?

    I am not sure there are many socialists out there who regard Bernie Sanders as one of their own, or who would regard our system of privatized gains and socialized loss as a form of socialism. The rich are protected by a socialist collective while the poor are subjected to the discipline of the market and convinced that any attempt to organize in their collective self-interest as the rich do is an offense against God and “liberty.”

    Anarcho-“Capitalism” is Impossible

    https://c4ss.org/content/4043

    Free Market Fantasies: Capitalism in the Real World
    Noam Chomsky

    https://chomsky.info/19960413/

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  14. @Rurik

    What Happened to the Revolution?
     
    the Revolution is still alive Dr. Paul, but the mantle has been passed on to Donald Trump to wield as our putative champion.

    I am and certainly was one of your biggest supporters, and was extremely hopeful and ready to support your son Rand, if he was even a fraction of the man you are. And even when the neocon rhetoric started to seep from his lips, I was still hopeful, thinking he was just playing the game. But then it became clear..

    "Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine is a gross violation of that nation’s sovereignty and an affront to the international community."

    ~ Rand Paul

    Paul: It is important that Russia become economically isolated until all its forces are removed from Crimea....

    and he lied about the Iran deal, deliberately mischaracterizing Iran's statements on their intentions.

    In short, to answer your question, 'What Happened to the Revolution?'

    Your son happened to it. He is a huge disappointment and it seem has succumbed to the depravity of treason and corruption that is the US Senate.

    Perhaps one day he can redeem himself, especially by supporting Donald Trump and being a voice for peace and liberty in the Senate.

    Trump is not perfect, but compared to Hillary he's Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson rolled into one. We all know that Hillary means more war and less liberty, to say the least.

    So now that the mantle has been passed, the leader of the Revolution is Donald Trump, and we all need to align behind him, until such time as he proves that he's just another stooge of the Fiend, (that your son has regretfully demonstrated his willingness to be).

    BTW, I look forward to your appointment as Treasury Secretary Dr. Paul. God speed to you sir.

    Well, Rurik, Rand Paul did endorse Donald Trump, which is a start toward his redemption. Whether or not he’ll be a voice for peace and liberty in the Senate, we’ll have to delay judgement. The fact that he’s come out in support of the Donald has given some leverage.
    Indeed, the mantle of the revolution has been passed from Dr. Ron Paul to Trump, who has also pledged to overhaul this nation’s immigration problem and eliminate the unconstitutional Obamacare and replace it with a better system.
    The Donald has also pledged to change America’s foreign policy to make it more similar to the foreign policy advocated by Dr. Paul 4 years ago; i.e., forge friendship and trade with not only Russia and China, but also with all nations. There have been rumors floating around that Trump would consider appointing Dr. Paul as Secretary of State, if he wins the general election. Treasury Secretary sounds very good also.

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    Good post Eileen.
    , @Rurik
    Hi Eileen,

    I suppose I'll still hold out some hope for Rand. He certainly has the pedigree to be great and do great things, if only he possessed that critical integrity- that is as rare as it is precious.

    The position of Secretary of State has already been set aside for Pat Buchannan.

    And Ron Paul will be perfect as Secretary of the Treasury

    Sheriff Joe Arpaio is going to be Attorney General

    and Ben Carson Surgeon General

    :)
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  15. bvki says:
    @Eileen Kuch
    Well, Rurik, Rand Paul did endorse Donald Trump, which is a start toward his redemption. Whether or not he'll be a voice for peace and liberty in the Senate, we'll have to delay judgement. The fact that he's come out in support of the Donald has given some leverage.
    Indeed, the mantle of the revolution has been passed from Dr. Ron Paul to Trump, who has also pledged to overhaul this nation's immigration problem and eliminate the unconstitutional Obamacare and replace it with a better system.
    The Donald has also pledged to change America's foreign policy to make it more similar to the foreign policy advocated by Dr. Paul 4 years ago; i.e., forge friendship and trade with not only Russia and China, but also with all nations. There have been rumors floating around that Trump would consider appointing Dr. Paul as Secretary of State, if he wins the general election. Treasury Secretary sounds very good also.

    Good post Eileen.

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  16. @mcs_in_ny
    There is no such thing as a free market. Like a magnetic monopole, it is a theoretical fiction. The closest thing to it would be something like a barter system. As soon as you introduce the concept of money, markets become susceptible to rigging by those empowered to declare what money is and in control of the supply of same. Central banking is an obvious deleterious example of this but the principle applies even if you are on a gold standard.

    Austrian economists fail to understand that what they call "cronyism" or "corporatism" is really just capitalism as it evolves in the real world, as opposed to the theoretical one that the Austrians inhabit.

    There is no such thing as a free market. Like a magnetic monopole, it is a theoretical fiction. The closest thing to it would be something like a barter system. As soon as you introduce the concept of money, markets become susceptible to rigging by those empowered to declare what money is and in control of the supply of same.

    The introduction of money does not prevent a free market, sorry. Don’t confuse a potential for manipulation with some purported loss of “free” qualities in the sense intended with “free market’.

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  17. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The same government that is running our lives and businesses and telling how to do things is responsible for this country being broke and deep in debt and hated by most other countries. Not a good mentor in my opinion.

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  18. windy says:

    The Donald should ask Ron Paul to be is VP.

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  19. Rurik says:
    @Eileen Kuch
    Well, Rurik, Rand Paul did endorse Donald Trump, which is a start toward his redemption. Whether or not he'll be a voice for peace and liberty in the Senate, we'll have to delay judgement. The fact that he's come out in support of the Donald has given some leverage.
    Indeed, the mantle of the revolution has been passed from Dr. Ron Paul to Trump, who has also pledged to overhaul this nation's immigration problem and eliminate the unconstitutional Obamacare and replace it with a better system.
    The Donald has also pledged to change America's foreign policy to make it more similar to the foreign policy advocated by Dr. Paul 4 years ago; i.e., forge friendship and trade with not only Russia and China, but also with all nations. There have been rumors floating around that Trump would consider appointing Dr. Paul as Secretary of State, if he wins the general election. Treasury Secretary sounds very good also.

    Hi Eileen,

    I suppose I’ll still hold out some hope for Rand. He certainly has the pedigree to be great and do great things, if only he possessed that critical integrity- that is as rare as it is precious.

    The position of Secretary of State has already been set aside for Pat Buchannan.

    And Ron Paul will be perfect as Secretary of the Treasury

    Sheriff Joe Arpaio is going to be Attorney General

    and Ben Carson Surgeon General

    :)

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  20. @mcs_in_ny
    There is no such thing as a free market. Like a magnetic monopole, it is a theoretical fiction. The closest thing to it would be something like a barter system. As soon as you introduce the concept of money, markets become susceptible to rigging by those empowered to declare what money is and in control of the supply of same. Central banking is an obvious deleterious example of this but the principle applies even if you are on a gold standard.

    Austrian economists fail to understand that what they call "cronyism" or "corporatism" is really just capitalism as it evolves in the real world, as opposed to the theoretical one that the Austrians inhabit.

    Actually they do understand this but they also get that it’s not a matter of Black or White. It’s not 100% free market or no free market at all. There can be 50% free markets or 80% free markets or 10% free markets, etc. etc.

    Think of it this way, the more free the market, the more liberty and prosperity you will have. No it’s not going to be 100% but if you move from 10% to 50% that is actually a large victory. Change it up and it’s a large defeat.

    The question then becomes this; Are you willing to give up and stop fighting for “free(er)” markets? If so then explain how something other than Free Markets (relatively speaking) is better? Seriously, I read the Communist Manifesto as well, and Marx did a great job of pointing out the flaws in capitalism. Sadly he had no working solution. Do you have one? If so I would be willing to listen with an open mind. (Please don’t say “co-op’s”, nothing in the Austrian School is against them in any way, so that isn’t an alternative but part of what we already suggest as a solution)

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    Are you willing to give up and stop fighting for “free(er)” markets? If so then explain how something other than Free Markets (relatively speaking) is better?
     
    I'll try to add something sensible to the discussion.

    We can look at freedoms in terms of quantity, and then we find powerful trade-offs. For example: I live in a stateless society, without powerful interests to bother me, without anyone to coerce me to anything (I'm in the Wild West), I'm the boss on my own land, the 'master' of my fate and captain of my soul, and yet ... I lack some basic infrastructure which really frustrates me, it severely limits what I can actually do: in a word, the lack of infrastructure limits my freedoms. Any tosser in New York or in the 21st century has things I want to have - and I don't. I also lack in terms of a community that is bright enough to recognise the benefits of collective building of such an infrastructure.
    Yes, I have neighbours and try to explain to them. And you know what? You can be a Caruso, but a Caruso in a semi desert is far less effective than a Caruso at a street corner of a city, which in turn is less effective than a Caruso in Carnegie Hall.

    We're, therefore, very much interested to look at freedoms in terms of quality. What freedoms do we wish? Generally, we want to live pleasant lives, to have fun while doing something that benefits our close ones, ourselves and, ideally, other people. And for that purpose, mobilising the society to build basic infrastructure and cultural connections can give more than it can take. It's not just that you can be more playful if some of "your basic needs" are met. You will be better off when you can choose, frequently, what you shall have guaranteed, and what you will fight for. And for such pluralistic choices, one needs some wealth regularly invested in some infrastructure, and some social sophistication also permanently present. It'd be just absurd to heroically fight for them time and again.

    To see what's the solution, in practical terms, one can look at the past.
    Historians and economists have shown that states can provide such basic conditions without being totalitarian nightmares. In the more distant past, that has been happening in the Far East: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fIqsJfpkMg . More recently, Michael Spence's commission on growth and development produced an analysis that shows modern development has happened virtually exclusively in countries that have practiced state dirigism.

    Of course, every state hierarchy tends towards totalitarianism (http://activistteacher.blogspot.com/search/label/hierarchy), so the only way to preserve a state system that gives you what you want and keeps away from else is to shake / test the system as much as you can.

    I continue dreaming of a sophisticated Wild West, and for a Star Trek anarchy. When I see an opportunity for such a thing, I'll grab it. Until then, I aim for a society with freedoms well-chosen.

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  21. the REVOLUTION IS STILL COMING
    when you see:

    *BANKERS HANGING
    *FEDS GETTING EXECUTED
    *MUSLIMS SLAUGHTERED
    *COPS RUNNING FOR COVER

    THEN YOU KNOW IT HAS BEGUN

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    What about Aipac?
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  22. Objectivism (Randroids) gets confused with Jeffersonian thinking and poisons the well. No matter. Ron Paul has done us all a great service by teaching us the case against the FED.

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  23. @Renoman
    Socialism for the Rich, Capitalism for the poor, that's America in a nutshell.

    You’ve got the right idea, that’s for sure.

    I’d just say: more like “socialism for the poor and the rich, mostly harsh capitalism for the middle class.”

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  24. Rehmat says:

    Socialism like Capitalism and Marxism, was given birth by secular Jews to serve the interests to the 1% fat cats and deprive the remaining 99% of their share of wealth.

    Even today, America’s Organized Jewry hate people who like to apply socialism in real sense.

    Indian-born Kshama Sawant, a computer engineer and professor (Seattle University) by profession, is the socialist member at Seattle City Council since January 2014. She captured the media headlights for her tiresome campaign to raise minimum wage to $15 in Seattle. She has expanded funding for social services and blocked, along with housing advocates, an attempt by the Seattle Housing Authority to allow a rent increase of up to 400 percent. She has successfully lobbied for city money to support tent encampments and is fighting for an excise tax on millionaires. And for this she has become the bête noire of America’s 1% fat-cats , Wall Street and the Jewish Lobby.

    Chris Hedge has called Kshama Sawant, The Most Dangerous Woman in America.

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/04/05/kshama-sawant-why-jewish-lobby-hate-her/

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  26. Ivan K. says:
    @Brad Smith
    Actually they do understand this but they also get that it's not a matter of Black or White. It's not 100% free market or no free market at all. There can be 50% free markets or 80% free markets or 10% free markets, etc. etc.

    Think of it this way, the more free the market, the more liberty and prosperity you will have. No it's not going to be 100% but if you move from 10% to 50% that is actually a large victory. Change it up and it's a large defeat.

    The question then becomes this; Are you willing to give up and stop fighting for "free(er)" markets? If so then explain how something other than Free Markets (relatively speaking) is better? Seriously, I read the Communist Manifesto as well, and Marx did a great job of pointing out the flaws in capitalism. Sadly he had no working solution. Do you have one? If so I would be willing to listen with an open mind. (Please don't say "co-op's", nothing in the Austrian School is against them in any way, so that isn't an alternative but part of what we already suggest as a solution)

    Are you willing to give up and stop fighting for “free(er)” markets? If so then explain how something other than Free Markets (relatively speaking) is better?

    I’ll try to add something sensible to the discussion.

    We can look at freedoms in terms of quantity, and then we find powerful trade-offs. For example: I live in a stateless society, without powerful interests to bother me, without anyone to coerce me to anything (I’m in the Wild West), I’m the boss on my own land, the ‘master’ of my fate and captain of my soul, and yet … I lack some basic infrastructure which really frustrates me, it severely limits what I can actually do: in a word, the lack of infrastructure limits my freedoms. Any tosser in New York or in the 21st century has things I want to have – and I don’t. I also lack in terms of a community that is bright enough to recognise the benefits of collective building of such an infrastructure.
    Yes, I have neighbours and try to explain to them. And you know what? You can be a Caruso, but a Caruso in a semi desert is far less effective than a Caruso at a street corner of a city, which in turn is less effective than a Caruso in Carnegie Hall.

    We’re, therefore, very much interested to look at freedoms in terms of quality. What freedoms do we wish? Generally, we want to live pleasant lives, to have fun while doing something that benefits our close ones, ourselves and, ideally, other people. And for that purpose, mobilising the society to build basic infrastructure and cultural connections can give more than it can take. It’s not just that you can be more playful if some of “your basic needs” are met. You will be better off when you can choose, frequently, what you shall have guaranteed, and what you will fight for. And for such pluralistic choices, one needs some wealth regularly invested in some infrastructure, and some social sophistication also permanently present. It’d be just absurd to heroically fight for them time and again.

    To see what’s the solution, in practical terms, one can look at the past.
    Historians and economists have shown that states can provide such basic conditions without being totalitarian nightmares. In the more distant past, that has been happening in the Far East: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fIqsJfpkMg . More recently, Michael Spence’s commission on growth and development produced an analysis that shows modern development has happened virtually exclusively in countries that have practiced state dirigism.

    Of course, every state hierarchy tends towards totalitarianism (http://activistteacher.blogspot.com/search/label/hierarchy), so the only way to preserve a state system that gives you what you want and keeps away from else is to shake / test the system as much as you can.

    I continue dreaming of a sophisticated Wild West, and for a Star Trek anarchy. When I see an opportunity for such a thing, I’ll grab it. Until then, I aim for a society with freedoms well-chosen.

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  27. What happened to the Revolution?

    You endorsed Romney and your son became a Detroit Republican.

    Libertarianism is unilateral disarmament in the face of a genocidal onslaught.

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  28. jtgw says: • Website

    I don’t get all the people who think Trump is less interventionist than Rand Paul. You do realize that Trump also denounced the Iran deal, right? Why does he get a free pass but Rand is treated like a traitor?

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  29. Rurik says:

    Why does he get a free pass but Rand is treated like a traitor?

    because Trump says he wants to extend the hand of peace and cooperation with Putin’s Russia, and Rand- the little whore- wants to piss in Putin’s eye by telling lies in service of the Fiend.

    Americans are tired of endless war$ for the Fiend.

    Trump is untested, and we don’t know what he’ll do. But Rand had a chance to act like his father and be a man of integrity, and instead he crawls around touching the wall, and showing his fealty and lickspittle like abasement like a good little minion of Moloch by telling lies about Putin.

    Rand also tells lies about the Iran deal

    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/07/28/rand-paul-fraud-failure-liar/

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    I repeat: Trump opposes the Iran deal.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/04/04/donald-trump-is-right-about-tearing-up-the-iran-deal-says-a-leading-iranian-hard-liner/

    He also supports falsehoods about the deal:

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/17/donald-trump/no-donald-trump-we-are-not-giving-iran-150-billion/

    I'm not saying you shouldn't hold Rand Paul to high standards, but when you apply the same standards to Trump, he also fails.
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  30. jtgw says: • Website
    @Rurik

    Why does he get a free pass but Rand is treated like a traitor?
     
    because Trump says he wants to extend the hand of peace and cooperation with Putin's Russia, and Rand- the little whore- wants to piss in Putin's eye by telling lies in service of the Fiend.

    Americans are tired of endless war$ for the Fiend.

    Trump is untested, and we don't know what he'll do. But Rand had a chance to act like his father and be a man of integrity, and instead he crawls around touching the wall, and showing his fealty and lickspittle like abasement like a good little minion of Moloch by telling lies about Putin.

    Rand also tells lies about the Iran deal

    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/07/28/rand-paul-fraud-failure-liar/

    I repeat: Trump opposes the Iran deal.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/04/04/donald-trump-is-right-about-tearing-up-the-iran-deal-says-a-leading-iranian-hard-liner/

    He also supports falsehoods about the deal:

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/17/donald-trump/no-donald-trump-we-are-not-giving-iran-150-billion/

    I’m not saying you shouldn’t hold Rand Paul to high standards, but when you apply the same standards to Trump, he also fails.

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    Trump says a lot of things that I find very troubling. I hate what he says about torture. I hate what he says about Snowden. I don't like what he says about Iran one bit.

    But the fact is nobody knows where Trump really comes down on these issues, because we all know that right now he's playing politics and is campaigning. Sure, he might turn out to be a catastrophe, but we all KNOW Hillary would be one, and so support for Trump is obvious.

    And I'll just have to cross my fingers and hope he puts Snowden in charge of the NSA, like I would do.

    But Rand has betrayed everything that his dad stood for. Honesty and integrity.

    Ron Paul was against the wars, and Rand tries to shill for the MIC and the Zionists by pilling on the war pig wagon against the world's only statesman, Putin. Who is acting like the only adult in the room and trying to save Syria and the rest of the Middle East and even his own backyard from the ravages of the Fiend gone hog wild foisting wars and slaughter.

    It was Rand's duty and obligation to point out that Putin's troubles with Ukraine were orchestrated by Obama's State Dept. and the referendum in Crimea was hardly an act of aggression, just the opposite in fact.

    There's just way too many reasons for considering Rand a pathetic disappointment.

    you want irony?

    in a great movie, A Man For All Seasons, there a character in the movie; Thomas More - that is Ron Paul incarnate. Iron integrity and known for his honesty and character

    https://tashpix.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/seasons.jpg

    and then there's another character, Richard Rich

    http://movieactors.com/photos-stars/john-hurt-amanforallseasons-5.jpg

    known for his ambition, opportunism, treachery and dishonesty

    I still hold out hope that Rand will find his way, but I'm not holding my breath
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  31. Rurik says:
    @jtgw
    I repeat: Trump opposes the Iran deal.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/04/04/donald-trump-is-right-about-tearing-up-the-iran-deal-says-a-leading-iranian-hard-liner/

    He also supports falsehoods about the deal:

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/17/donald-trump/no-donald-trump-we-are-not-giving-iran-150-billion/

    I'm not saying you shouldn't hold Rand Paul to high standards, but when you apply the same standards to Trump, he also fails.

    Trump says a lot of things that I find very troubling. I hate what he says about torture. I hate what he says about Snowden. I don’t like what he says about Iran one bit.

    But the fact is nobody knows where Trump really comes down on these issues, because we all know that right now he’s playing politics and is campaigning. Sure, he might turn out to be a catastrophe, but we all KNOW Hillary would be one, and so support for Trump is obvious.

    And I’ll just have to cross my fingers and hope he puts Snowden in charge of the NSA, like I would do.

    But Rand has betrayed everything that his dad stood for. Honesty and integrity.

    Ron Paul was against the wars, and Rand tries to shill for the MIC and the Zionists by pilling on the war pig wagon against the world’s only statesman, Putin. Who is acting like the only adult in the room and trying to save Syria and the rest of the Middle East and even his own backyard from the ravages of the Fiend gone hog wild foisting wars and slaughter.

    It was Rand’s duty and obligation to point out that Putin’s troubles with Ukraine were orchestrated by Obama’s State Dept. and the referendum in Crimea was hardly an act of aggression, just the opposite in fact.

    There’s just way too many reasons for considering Rand a pathetic disappointment.

    you want irony?

    in a great movie, A Man For All Seasons, there a character in the movie; Thomas More – that is Ron Paul incarnate. Iron integrity and known for his honesty and character

    and then there’s another character, Richard Rich

    known for his ambition, opportunism, treachery and dishonesty

    I still hold out hope that Rand will find his way, but I’m not holding my breath

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  32. @Rurik

    What Happened to the Revolution?
     
    the Revolution is still alive Dr. Paul, but the mantle has been passed on to Donald Trump to wield as our putative champion.

    I am and certainly was one of your biggest supporters, and was extremely hopeful and ready to support your son Rand, if he was even a fraction of the man you are. And even when the neocon rhetoric started to seep from his lips, I was still hopeful, thinking he was just playing the game. But then it became clear..

    "Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine is a gross violation of that nation’s sovereignty and an affront to the international community."

    ~ Rand Paul

    Paul: It is important that Russia become economically isolated until all its forces are removed from Crimea....

    and he lied about the Iran deal, deliberately mischaracterizing Iran's statements on their intentions.

    In short, to answer your question, 'What Happened to the Revolution?'

    Your son happened to it. He is a huge disappointment and it seem has succumbed to the depravity of treason and corruption that is the US Senate.

    Perhaps one day he can redeem himself, especially by supporting Donald Trump and being a voice for peace and liberty in the Senate.

    Trump is not perfect, but compared to Hillary he's Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson rolled into one. We all know that Hillary means more war and less liberty, to say the least.

    So now that the mantle has been passed, the leader of the Revolution is Donald Trump, and we all need to align behind him, until such time as he proves that he's just another stooge of the Fiend, (that your son has regretfully demonstrated his willingness to be).

    BTW, I look forward to your appointment as Treasury Secretary Dr. Paul. God speed to you sir.

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  33. @BADGER BADGERISM
    the REVOLUTION IS STILL COMING
    when you see:

    *BANKERS HANGING
    *FEDS GETTING EXECUTED
    *MUSLIMS SLAUGHTERED
    *COPS RUNNING FOR COVER

    THEN YOU KNOW IT HAS BEGUN

    What about Aipac?

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