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After a week of insisting that a meeting with Putin on the sidelines of the G20 meeting in Argentina was going to happen, President Trump at the last minute sent out a Tweet explaining that due to a Russia/Ukraine dispute in the Sea of Azov he would no longer be willing to meet his Russian counterpart.

According to Trump, the meeting had to be cancelled because the Russians seized three Ukrainian naval vessels in Russian waters that refused to follow instructions from the Russian military. But as Pat Buchanan wrote in a recent column: how is this little dispute thousands of miles away any of our business?

Unfortunately it is “our business” because of President Obama’s foolish idea to overthrow a democratically-elected, pro-Russia government in Ukraine in favor of what his Administration believed would be a “pro-Western” and “pro-NATO” replacement. In short, the Obama Administration did openly to Ukraine what his Democratic Party claims without proof the Russians did to the United States: meddled in a vote.

US interventionism in Ukraine led to the 2014 coup and many dead Ukrainians. Crimea’s majority-Russian population held a referendum and decided to re-join Russia rather than remain in a “pro-West” Ukraine that immediately began discriminating against them. Why would anyone object to people opting out of abusive relationships?

What is most disappointing about President Trump’s foreign policy is that it didn’t have to be this way. He ran on a platform of America first, ending foreign wars, NATO skepticism, and better relations with Russia. Americans voted for this policy. He had a mandate, a rejection of Obama’s destructive interventionism.

But he lost his nerve.

Instead of being the president who ships lethal weapons to the Ukrainian regime, instead of being the president who insists that Crimea remain in Ukraine, instead of being the president who continues policies the American people clearly rejected at the ballot box, Trump could have blamed the Ukraine/Russia mess on the failed Obama foreign policy and charted a very different course. What flag flies over Crimea is none of our business. We are not the policemen of the world and candidate Trump seemed to have understood that.

But now Trump’s in a trap. He was foolish enough to believe that Beltway foreign policy “experts” have a clue about what really is American national interest. Just this week he told the Washington Post, in response to three US soldiers being killed by a roadside bomb in Afghanistan, that he has to keep US troops fighting in the longest war in US history because the “experts” tell him there is no alternative.

He said, “virtually every expert that I have and speak to say if we don’t go there, they’re going to be fighting over here. And I’ve heard it over and over again.”

That is the same bunkum the neocons sold us as they lied us into Iraq! We’ve got to fight Saddam over there or he’d soon be in our streets. These “experts” are worthless, yet for some reason President Trump cannot break free of them.

Well here’s some unsolicited advice to the president: Listen to the people who elected you, who are tired of the US as the world’s police force. Let Ukraine and Russia work out their own problems. Give all your “experts” a pink slip and start over with a real pro-American foreign policy: non-interventionism.

(Republished from The Ron Paul Institute by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. MEexpert says:

    Well here’s some unsolicited advice to the president: Listen to the people who elected you, who are tired of the US as the world’s police force. Let Ukraine and Russia work out their own problems. Give all your “experts” a pink slip and start over with a real pro-American foreign policy: non-interventionism.

    I second that.

    For God’s sake, somebody tell Trump that he is the President not the experts.

  2. Ron Paul is right again. Me thinks he would make a great secretary of state. He’s the guy all along that Trump should have had in mind to formulate his foreign policy of ending the wars.

    Trump’s Russian troubles, has reinforced the deep state to reenact the same old tired policies for the war profiteers. The US is not the world’s army or police. Trump should give the deep state the finger by making Ron Paul the Secretary of State.

  3. yurivku says:

    Well here’s some unsolicited advice to the president: Listen to the people who elected you, who are tired of the US as the world’s police force.

    Crying in the rain.
    Whom for are these wails ?
    Nobody needs your advices. Just eat this and keep silent or do something real eg. like Yellow Vests are doing in France.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  4. What flag flies over Crimea is none of our business. We are not the policemen of the world and candidate Trump seemed to have understood that.

    exactly

    and the American people have never been asked if they wanted to be policeman of the world if it meant they’d have to spend $700 billion/year on”defense” instead of a more reasonable $300-$400 billion/year

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  5. Realist says:

    But now Trump’s in a trap. He was foolish enough to believe that Beltway foreign policy “experts” have a clue about what really is American national interest.

    Ron, that’s bullshit and I think you know it. Trump is complicit in all this belligerent war mongering.
    Trump is not in a trap. He hired all the assholes in his administration, Bolton, Pompeo and the rest.
    Trump is playing ‘good cop’ to the war monger’s ‘bad cop’. My belief is that Trump planned it this way from the beginning….he played a fast one on his supporters. He talked big and served the Deep State.
    No wall, huge increase to the War Department, and a big tax break to the rich.

    • Replies: @dvorak
  6. MarkinLA says:
    @Rabbinical Rube

    I worked in defense during the Reagan years. We were still building, designing and proposing weapons that would never have seen the light of day if there was a war between the US and the USSR. The idea that US and Soviet troops would ever be close enough to use shoulder fired anti-armor weapons is ridiculous. Everything seemed built around the idea of a high tech WWII redo. Outside of the strategic forces, most of the defense budget was only useful for bullying third world countries.

  7. CalDre says:

    We are not the policemen of the world and candidate Trump seemed to have understood that.

    Bless Ron, but he always couches it in these terms.

    If he were not petrified of speaking truth to power, he would write instead: “US needs to stop being the global despot and bully, and candidate Trump seemed to have understood that.”

    The term “police” presumes (1) that there is some law being enforced (there isn’t – it’s just US interests, or more particularly, globalism, including global government), and (2) that this law is being applied objectively (it isn’t – see above).

    US is a lawless, rogue regime spreading death, deprivation, and destruction wherever it goes.

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    , @Tulips
  8. dvorak says:
    @Realist

    No wall, huge increase to the War Department, and a big tax break to the rich.

    And a one-term presidency.

    • Agree: Realist
  9. “But he lost his nerve.”

    Nonsense. He has enough “nerve” to flirt with WW3, right?

    Obviously, orange clown’s whole campaign was a calculated “bait and switch” fraud from the beginning. The perfidious orange clown never had any intention of following through on his campaign promises/pre-election intimations.

  10. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @CalDre

    “ … pretended to have understood that.”

    All for the consumption of the gulled American voter, who then sits back and waits for … the next election.

    It’s December 26, kids. Santa isn’t coming down the chimney. Why not get dressed and go outside to play?

  11. Tulips says:
    @CalDre

    Very astute comment on correct use of language. “World’s policeman” should be “global bully”. “The elite” should be “the oligarchs”. “Trump presidency” should be “Trump regime”. “North Atlantic Treaty Organization” should be “Neo-cons’ Aggression & Terrorism Organization”. The labels we use should correctly describe the actions.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  12. lavoisier says: • Website

    He said, “virtually every expert that I have and speak to say if we don’t go there, they’re going to be fighting over here. And I’ve heard it over and over again.”

    Isn’t that the same bullshit line Bush used to justify our endless wars?

    That he would use the same excuse for these endless wars on behalf of Zion makes it clear that he is a certifiable moron.

    • Replies: @anon
  13. KenH says:

    ….that he has to keep US troops fighting in the longest war in US history because the “experts” tell him there is no alternative.

    The same Trump who mocked said “experts” on the campaign trail is now putty in their hands and doing everything they tell him. That isn’t what we voted for. We didn’t vote for the continuation of a deep state and militantly pro-Israel foreign policy yet that’s exactly what Trump is giving albeit in an ever so slightly lesser degree.

    Now he’s morphed into Dubya by telling us that we must fight them over there (Afghanistan) so they won’t come over here to steal our freedom. It’s deja vu all over again.

  14. anon[281] • Disclaimer says:
    @lavoisier

    Isn’t that the same bullshit line Bush used to justify our endless wars?

    That he would use the same excuse for these endless wars on behalf of Zion makes it clear that he is a certifiable moron.

    when you get a hot tip from Cue Ball or 8-Ball down at the Burger King you gotta act fast

  15. @KenH

    I’m quite sure orange clown was always putty in the hands of his masters; he merely pretended not to be (during the campaign) to fool us and steal our votes.

  16. @yurivku

    I gather from your grammar that you are not an American (or from any literate English-speaking country). There’s nothing too much wrong with that, Mr. Yurivku, but you then would probably not know much history of American government, especially regarding the esteemed Dr. Ron Paul.

    Ron Paulhas done more to (try to) stem the American slide from a Constitutional Republic into the totalitarian anarcho-tyranny it exists as now than 99% of Americans. This guy up there was known for most of his 3-decade time in the US House of Representatives as Dr. No. “Why?” you may ask. It’s because he voted against any bill that was not Constitutional. That’s a good thing. Had a hundred or two more Ron Pauls been in the legislature, the US would still be a shining beacon of liberty.

    Dr. Paul is a little bit old to take your advises and go out into the street wearing a yellow vest. However, these “advises” are probably good for a lot of the readers. Americans will come around, I think. They still have (or think they have) too much to lose. That’ll change when the dollar goes down the toilet.

    • Replies: @yurivku
  17. @KenH

    Yeah, I just read that he’d started that “or fight them over here” shit somewhere this morning, Ken. It’s sickening. Just as Dr. Paul wrote in this excellent column, and Peak Stupidity has written repeatedly (including this Part 1 of Ronnie vs. Donnie*), Trump has no faith in his own principles, if any. He has taken the completely wrong type of people, beltway regulars, into his circle of advisors and cabinet heads. That’s just plain stupid.

    * Comparisons of President Trump to President Reagan, since the former, in his usually bragging style, just got done comparing himself favorably to the Gipper.

  18. @Tulips

    AGREED! (with both of you, of course.)

  19. yurivku says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I gather from your grammar that you are not an American (or from any literate English-speaking country).

    Well, you nailed it. If you are enough literate in it I can switch to Russian.

    Dr. Paul is a little bit old to take your advises and go out into the street wearing a yellow vest.

    It’s not for him actually, but for all writers and commenters who are writing here .

    Americans will come around, I think

    Don’t think so. All they are capable now – is LGBT devoted marches.

    PS: With each new POTUS I think it’s just not possible to get even more stupid than previous one. But it is! your reserves of geniuses are endless. All others just watching how clever he/she is.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  20. @yurivku

    If you are enough literate in it I can switch to Russian.

    Oh, no, I wouldn’t have a chance. Please don’t think my point was to rag on your English skills (much) – I was just noting that for my point that you are not an American, meaning: You may not know anything about Ron Paul.

    It’s not for him actually, but for all writers and commenters who are writing here .

    Fair enough.

    Don’t think so. All they are capable now – is LGBT devoted marches.

    Don’t get all your opinions of us from TV, Mr. Russkie, just as Americans shouldn’t have gotten all their opinions of the Russians during the USSR days from descriptions of the sicko Commies in the politburo.

    With each new POTUS I think it’s just not possible to get even more stupid than previous one.

    We will reach Peak Stupidity when our financial situation catches up with us.

    BTW, Mr. Trump would have been a great thing for us if he kept his campaign promises, no matter how much of a loud-mouth twitterer he is. Instead, he’s hired the same beltway-bred advisors that are the problem.

  21. yurivku says:

    Please don’t think my point was to rag on your English skills (much) – I was just noting that for my point that you are not an American,

    Not a problem at all. You are right, I’m not. I don’t mind (even thankful) when being pointed to my mistakes.

    Don’t get all your opinions of us from TV, Mr. Russkie, just as Americans shouldn’t have gotten all their opinions of the Russians during the USSR days from descriptions of the sicko Commies in the politburo.

    My opinions are from life, – I see what’s going on and you Americans in your majority recklessly watching the WW3 (last possible war) coming to their houses.
    Sorry, but I think most of US citizens are exteamly stupid having seen what they are doing and saying, whom they are electing and so on. Please don’t explain me that elections means nothing – I know.
    Just one simple thing you should understand right now – or you do something about this or we all die.

    Mr. Trump would have been a great thing for us if he kept his campaign promises, no matter how much of a loud-mouth twitterer he is.

    As we say – if grandmother had a … she’ll be grandfather. So Trump is spineless clown. Being stupid helps him not to suffer from all that.

    Sorry if this hurts you, but it’s our sad realities of today.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  22. @yurivku

    My opinions are from life, – I see what’s going on and you Americans in your majority recklessly watching …

    I’ve been alive too, buddy, and probably just as long. I couldn’t tell you very much about what really goes on in Russia. I’ve not been there. I could tell you lots more about China, because I HAVE been there and seen a lot.

    There’s no doubt that the American Feral Gov’t has been a warmongering outfit since GHW Bush after Mr. Reagan* won the Cold War. You see the worst of it, just like a Fred Reed, but you’re not here. There are plenty of good people that DON’T LIKE anything our the Feral Gov’t has been doing for the last 50 years (come to think of it). We’ve been outnumbered by the stupid.

    I never claim that the Russian people are stupid because they “voted in” the Commies and caused 7 decades of misery as the USSR. To me that’s what you’re saying. We don’t vote for what happens in the Fed Gov (not since it was a WHOLE LOT smaller, say a century ago). One difference here is, that when this Cultural Revolution and totalitarianism really ramp, Americans still have their guns. You can thank a lot of good Americans for that.

    * Along with Maggie, the old (real) Pope, Mr. Adenauer, and millions of American soldiers, sailors, airmen and engineers and technicians …

    • Replies: @yurivku
    , @LOLAtThis
  23. yurivku says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Well, I see my point did not reach you, as well as anybody else. So I give up.
    Just look here

    https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/when-will-rest-west-follow-frances-example-and-rise/ri25632

    if this won’t be understood all the shit will stay where it is.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  24. @yurivku

    Your point was that Americans ought to be getting out in the streets with yellow vests (or wearing whatever). I get that. Peak Stupidity has a 6-part series on “There’s battle lines being drawn …” Spend some time reading there: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, and Part 6. If you’re not careful, you might learn something.

    Hey, I just read your short linked editorial. I agree completely!

    • Replies: @yurivku
    , @yurivku
  25. yurivku says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Your point was that Americans ought to be getting out in the streets with yellow vests (or wearing whatever). I get that.

    No you did not. Point is – if you wish to live – do something not just blah – blah “Somebody tell Trump …”, – childish BS. Or do not complain and keep silent.

    Hey, I just read your short linked editorial. I agree completely!

    it’s not mine actually and in comments you can find (please note it’s not my words, but I feel like it’s close to bitter truth):

    If you mean Americans, they have no intention of rising up.
    And they won’t, until hunger gnaws at their own bellies, and they are selling their children on the street to eat.

    Americans, for the most part, are some of the stupidest collaborating with the evil of zionism,. pedophilia, war crimes, crimes against humanity, Holocausting innocent peoples, thieving evil turds you will find anywhere.

    At least 95% have no truth, no honor, no integrity, or ability to think independently from the USA and their Media whores who feed the sheep lies, day in and day out.

    I have nothing to add

  26. LOLAtThis says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    What you fail to grasp is that we, foreigners, couldn’t care the less how much you agree with your government nor do we have to give a shit about the reasons why your representatives don’t represent you. Since you’re part of a democratic republic where you vote the idiots that lord over you, you’re responsible for the government you get. What your government does is an extension of what Americans want by default, even if you personally disagree with what the government does.

    Heck, Hitler was a dictator and yet Germans were and are held collectively responsible for his bullshit. Same with Russia and communism – fyi, the first two decades of communist rule weren’t atrocious. Russia experienced across the board increases in life expectancy and literacy rates, although mostly because the Czar was an incompetent weakling who couldn’t do away with serfdom soon enough.

    Regarding your responsibility for your government, I would have been more sympathetic towards what you’re saying if Americans weren’t pigheaded idiots who think they have valid opinions about anything on this planet while considering the opinions of foreigners on America irrelevant despite foreigners more often than not knowing far more about America than Americans know about any other country.

  27. Since you’re part of a democratic republic where you vote the idiots that lord over you, you’re responsible for the government you get. What your government does is an extension of what Americans want by default, even if you personally disagree with what the government does.

    Yep, that’s all true. Why don’t you read the Peak Stupidity posts that deign to predict how things will go down.

    Heck, Hitler was a dictator and yet Germans were and are held collectively responsible for his bullshit.

    Yeah, but most thinking people understand that the average German wanted no part of that endgame, nor really Hitler at all. The bind they were in was that the Nazis were the effective ones keeping the country from going Communist in its time of great economic and social misery in the 1920′s through mid-’30′s. You are right though, that once WWII was underway, the Germans were held responsible for that leader, whether they played any part in putting a madman in absolute power or not. Will Americans come to stop any warmongering that gets us far enough toward WWIII or a real fight with a serious enemy? I think probably so, but I want to write more about this in a bit.

    fyi, the first two decades of communist rule weren’t atrocious.

    I don’t have any idea how bad things were under the czar, but there were no good decades under Communism. There never are. Read about the Red vs. White Russians, famines in the 1920′s and then Stalin’s purges sometime.

    Regarding your responsibility for your government, I would have been more sympathetic towards what you’re saying if Americans weren’t pigheaded idiots who think they have valid opinions about anything on this planet while considering the opinions of foreigners on America irrelevant despite foreigners more often than not knowing far more about America than Americans know about any other country.

    See, now there’s that stupidity again. I don’t say that I know what’s good for Russia. Does Max Boot, or the staff of the NY Times represent “all Americans” to you?

    Now you’ll read lots of opinions on this board, 90% from Americans, about everything all over, but that’s their right to spout off. I’m not one claiming to know all about places I’ve never been and what’s good for them. I think foreigners’ opinions may be right and may be wrong, but sure they’re irrelevant, just like my opinion of Russia is irrelevant to your country. Vlad Putin isn’t going to listen to whatever I may have to say about the place, and rightfully so.

  28. @yurivku

    No you did not.

    I just wrote that I got it. I know what your point is. You are just not a good enough writer (in English) to say what you mean. LOLatThis below does a better job, IMO.

    You have no idea what some Americans are getting prepared for, even as most of them just enjoy their bread and circuses. I did not imply that was your writing (probably not clear by me – I meant LINKED by YOU) – the guy writes very well, and his opinion matches mine. From your quote of that commenter:

    If you mean Americans, they have no intention of rising up. And they won’t, until hunger gnaws at their own bellies, and they are selling their children on the street to eat.

    Nah, it won’t go that far. As I wrote above, Americans still hold onto (what they think of as) great prosperity. Many are living in debt to keep the same lives that middle class people could have soundly lived 30 years ago. It’s not going to end well. This is why I read Ron Paul. He knows what a problem the huge debt is (US Feral Gov’t debt, student loan debt, housing debt – with next bubble pop coming, consumer debt – cars and credit cards).

    To me, the coming financial calamity coming once confidence is lots in the US $ will have two effects:

    1) Americans will understand (a long time coming!) that they don’t have so much to lose by raising hell against the happenings in their country. This is especially true for the young people with no families. The single guys are the ones up for this sort of thing, though they don’t seem too clued in right now. With no family to worry about and about no assets but a car with a 7-year load, they may understand that raising hell may be their best option, for a lot of reasons.

    2) The US Feral Gov’t will simply not be able to spend borrowed Chinese bondholders’ money to wage wars. The welfare system may not NOMINALLY collapse, but when those promised $1600 Social Security checks KEEP COMING, but a McDonald’s meal is $47.99, then things will be different. The US Gov’t will be effectively broke, and to me, that’s a good thing. Dr. Paul thinks there’s a way back still out of this hole, but I disagreed with that up top.

    I have nothing to add.

    I was going to make a smart-assed comment, but how about you read my 6 posts and then add something, please?* Good or bad, say what you think about it.

    .

    * After all, I did you the courtesy of reading from the link you inserted. (Granted, the Peak Stupidity stuff is quite a bit longer.)

  29. @yurivku

    Americans, for the most part, are some of the stupidest collaborating with the evil of zionism,. pedophilia, war crimes, crimes against humanity, Holocausting innocent peoples, thieving evil turds you will find anywhere.

    You are still confusing the people on TV with Americans.

    At least 95% have no truth, no honor, no integrity, or ability to think independently from the USA and their Media whores who feed the sheep lies, day in and day out.

    It’s probably about 25% that fit your description, but maybe over 50% that just fit the inability to see past the media-whore lies part. You are not far from that yourself though, in the other direction.

    Take yourself a trip over and see for yourself, but not one that just hits up NYC, Los Angeles and Washington, FS. Your view is cloudy, sir.

    • Replies: @yurivku
    , @yurivku
  30. yurivku says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Sorry, but all this was not mine but your fellow American guy’s words from comments on article I gave you link to.
    About Peak of Stupidity – I’ll try to read, but it’s quite complex reading to me, will take time.
    Regards Yuri

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  31. @yurivku

    Sorry, but all this was not mine but your fellow American guy’s words from comments on article I gave you link to.

    Oh, yeah, ooops on that one. Sorry.

    About Peak of Stupidity – I’ll try to read, but it’s quite complex reading to me, will take time.

    Yes, it includes lots of American humor and idioms. Thanks for giving it a try, Yuri. Good evening.

  32. yurivku says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Take yourself a trip over and see for yourself, but not one that just hits up NYC, Los Angeles and Washington, FS. Your view is cloudy, sir.

    BTW I’ve been in the USA 5 times – NY/NJ, LA/Irvine, Las Vegas, Seattle/Bellevue and New Orleans.
    All these were busines trips of 3 to 10 days long and I had just a little of time to see country and communicate with people, but I have the basic picture.

    I also stayed for 6 month in UK (long ago), as tourist visited Rome, Paris, Antverpen, Amsterdam and some more EU cities not to say about other warm and nice places to get some sun.

    Just for you to know.

    All others people’s opinions which you called as cloudy view, are wide spread outside and inside US and I’m afraid it’s much closer to the true picture. We can see it every day when watch and listen your officials and reading MSM. One or three per cent of people writing here means not much for the whole picture.

    But enough about that, this is not gonna change if even most intelligent people see no better way of actions that “to advice Trump to listen…”.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  33. yurivku says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Hi, Achmed.

    I did leaf through this Peak Stupidity staff, won’t say I understood everything, but seems it’s all about relations *inside* US’s society.

    Sorry, I’m not interested in it, – it’s your business, it one more time proves that you think of your indispensibility etc. and do not about others.

    I’m talkin about world, peace and survival not US, but all of us. As Russian, I see continuous stream of lies, insultments, sanctions and other dirt pouring on Russia. Our patience (except Putin’s probably) is near the end. And I just wonder why stupids in US can’t see what’ll happen after it’s over.

    We used to fight despite don’t want to. That’s the point.

  34. @yurivku

    All others people’s opinions which you called as cloudy view, are wide spread outside and inside US and I’m afraid it’s much closer to the true picture.

    Yuri, I didn’t mean the clueless Americans (I guess plenty of Euros too, but I don’t’ know) have a cloudy view. They just enjoy their “bread and circuses” and really don’t see at all what’s coming. I mean anyone who relies on the MSM and only the other common/easy Lyin’ Press outlets like Yahoo-news on-line, newspaper websites etc. to pretend to know what all Americans are like has a clouded view.

    Since you’ve been here a number of times, I take back some of what I wrote about your lack of knowledge of the country. 1 or 3% may really know the true picture and be ready to cause a change when the time is right. People say that during the American Revolution only about III% of the people were truly involved in it.

    But enough about that, this is not gonna change if even most intelligent people see no better way of actions that “to advice Trump to listen…”

    That goes right on back to my first comment to you, conveniently. Yeah, I don’t know if Ron Paul really thinks there is a simple civil political way out of this, like all it would take would be for the President to listen (even if Ron Paul was President, he could only do so much). I was defending him as a long-term defender of the US Constitution when almost all the rest didn’t care about that anymore. I guess he’s getting to old to still be a firebrand (he used to be – you can find some old vids on youtube). You don’t expect him to write columns preaching immediate revolution, do you? (He’d just be blocked by the whole gang of F.A.G.S.)

    Yuri, many of the old-timers in this pundit world, like Pat Buchanan, still can’t get it into their heads that this is not the polite, civil political environment of 1975 or even 1995. Those on the left are not in that mode. The ctrl-left, as I call them, think that the destruction of the US is a shoe-in (meaning they have no doubt they can complete the job). We’ll see before too long.

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