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“Reform always provokes rage on the part of those who profit by the old order.” Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., The Crisis of the Old Order

Who are the anti-Trump protesters besmirching the name of progressives by pretending to be progressives and by refusing to accept the outcome of the presidential election? They look like, and are acting worse than, the “white trash” that they are denouncing.

I think I know who they are. They are thugs for hire and are paid by the Oligarchy to delegitimize Trump’s presidency in the way that Washington and the German Marshall Fund paid students in Kiev to protest the democratically elected Ukrainian government in order to prepare the way for a coup.

The organization, change.org, which claims to be a progressive group, but might be a front, along with other progressive groups, for the Oligarchy, is destroying the reputation of all progressives by circulating a petition that directs the electors of the Electoral Collage to annul the election by casting their votes for Hillary. Remember how upset progressives were when Trump said he might not accept the election result if there was evidence that the vote was rigged? Now progressives are doing what they damned Trump for saying he might do under certain conditions.

The Western presstitutes used the protests in Kiev to delegitimize a democratically elected government and to set it up for a coup. The protest pay was good enough that non-Ukrainians came from nearby countries to participate in the protest in order to collect the money. At the time I posted the amounts paid daily to protesters. Reports came in to me from Eastern and Western Europe from people who were not Ukrainian but were paid to protest as if they were Ukrainians.

The same thing is going on with the Trump protests. CNN reports that “for many Americans across the country, Donald Trump’s victory is an outcome they simply refuse to accept. Tens of thousands filled the streets in at least 25 US cities overnight.” This is the exact reporting that the Oligarchy desired from its presstitutes and got.

I hope no one thinks that simultaneous protests in 25 cities were a spontaneous event. How did 25 independent protests manage to come up with the same slogans and the same signs on the same night following the election?

What is the point of the protests, and what interest is served by them? As the Romans always asked, “who benefits?”

There is only one answer: The Oligarchy and only the Oligarchy benefits.

Trump is a threat to the Oligarchy, because he intends to stop the giveaway of American jobs to foreigners. The jobs giveaway, sanctified by the neoliberal junk economists as “free trade,” is one of the main reasons for the 21st century worsening of the US income distribution. Money that was formerly paid in middle class wages and salaries to American manufacturing employees and college graduates has been re-routed to the pockets of the One Percent.

When US corporations move their production of goods and services sold to Americans offshore to Asian countries, such as China and India, their wage bill falls. The money formerly paid in middle class incomes goes instead into executive bonuses and dividends and capital gains to shareholders. The ladders of upward mobility that had made America the land of opportunity were dismantled for the sole purpose of making a handful of people multi-billionaires.

Trump is a threat to the Oligarchy, because he intends peaceful relations with Russia. In order to replace the profitable Soviet Threat, the Oligarchy and their neoconservative agents worked overtime to recreate the “Russian Threat” by demonizing Russia.

Accustomed to many decades of excess profits from the profitable Cold War, the military/security complex was angry when President Reagan brought the Cold War to an end. Before these leaches on American taxpayers could get the Cold War going again, the Soviet Union collapsed as a result of a right-wing coup against Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev.

The military/security complex and their zionist neoconservative agents cooked up “the war on terror” to keep the money flowing to the One Percent. But as hard as the presstitute media worked to create fear of “the Muslim threat,” even insouciant Americans knew that the Muslims did not have thousands of ICBMs carrying powerful thermo-nuclear weapons capable of destroying the entirety of the United States in a few minutes. Neither did the Muslims have the Red Army capable of overrunning all of Europe in a couple of days. Indeed, the Muslims haven’t needed an army. Refugees from Washington’s wars enabled by Europeans are overrunning Europe.

The excuse for the annual trillion dollar ($1,000 billion ) military/security budget was missing. So the Oligarchy created “the New Hitler” in Russia. Hillary was the Oligarchy’s principle agent for heating up the new Cold War.

Hillary is the tool, enriched by the Oligarchy, whose job as President was to protect and to increase the trillion dollar budget of the military/security complex. With Hillary in the White House, the looting of the American taxpayers in behalf of the wealth of the One Percent could go forward unimpeded. But if Trump resolves “the Russian threat,” the Oligarchy takes an income hit.

Hillary’s job as President was also to privatize Social Security in order that her Wall Street benefactors can rip off Americans the way that Americans have been ripped off by the insurance companies under Obamacare.

Those Americans who do not pay attention think, mistakenly, that the FBI cleared Hillary of violating National Security protocols with her email practices. The FBI said that Hillary did violate National Security, but that it was a result of carelessness or ignorance. She got off from indictment, because the FBI concluded that she did not intentionally violate National Security protocols. The investigation of the Clinton Foundation continues.

In other words, in order to protect Hillary the FBI fell back on the ancient common law rule that “there can be no crime without intent.” (See PCR and Lawrence Stratton, The Tyranny of Good Intentions.)

ORDER IT NOW

One would think that protesters, if they were legitimate, would be celebrating Trump’s victory. He, unlike Hillary, promises to reduce tensions with powerful Russia, and we hope also with China. Unlike Hillary, Trump says he is concerned with the absence of careers for those very people protesting in the streets of 25 cities against him.

In other words, the protests against the American people for electing Trump as their president are pointless. The protests are happening for one reason only. The Oligarchy intends to delegitimize the Trump Presidency. Once President Trump is delegitimized, it will be easier for the Oligarchy to assassinate him. Unless the Oligarchy can appoint and control Trump’s government, Trump is a prime candidate for assassination.

The protests against Trump are suspicious for another reason. Unlike Hillary, Obama, and George W. Bush, Donald Trump has not slaughtered and dislocated millions of peoples in seven countries, sending millions of refugees from the Oligarchy’s wars to overrun Europe.

Trump earned his fortune, and if by hook or crook, not by selling US government influence to foreign agents as Bill and Hillary did.

So what are the protesters protesting?

There is no answer except that they are hired to protest. Just as the Maidan protesters in Kiev were hired to protest by US and German financed NGOs.

The protests in Kiev were equally pointless, because presidential elections were only months away. If Ukrainians really believed that their president was conspiring with Russia to keep Ukraine from becoming a Western puppet state and wished to become a puppet state regardless of the costs, the opportunity to vote the government out was at hand. The only reason for the protests was to orchestrate a coup. The US did succeed in putting their agent in control of the new Ukrainian government as Victoria Nuland and the US ambassador in Kiev confirmed in their telephone conversation that is available on the Internet.

The Maidan protests were pointless except for making a coup possible. The protests were without any doubt arranged by Washington through Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, a neoconservative brought into the State Department by Hillary Clinton for the purpose of creating conflict with Russia.

Trump is being protested in order to make him vulnerable in the event he proves to be the threat to the Oligarchy that he is thought to be.

Trump won the presidency, but the Oligarchy is still in power, which makes any real reforms difficult to achieve. Symbolic reforms can be the product of the contest between President Trump and the oligarchs.

Karl Marx learned from historical experience, and Lenin, Stalin, and Pol Pot learned from Karl Marx, that change cannot occur if the displaced ruling class is left intact after a revolution against them. We have proof of this throughout South America. Every revolution by the indigenous people has left unmolested the Spanish ruling class, and every revolution has been overthrown by collusion between the ruling class and Washington.

Washington has conspired with traditional elites to remove the elected presidents of Honduras on a number of occasions. Recently, Washington helped elites evict the female presidents of Argentina and Brazil. The presidents of Venezuela, Ecuador, and Bolivia are in the crosshairs and are unlikely to survive. Washington is determined to get its hands on Julian Assange. To achieve this Washington intends to overthrow the Ecuadoran government that, in defiance of Washington, gave Julian Assange political asylum.

Hugo Chavez had the power to exile or to exterminate the Spanish ruling class in Venezuela when the ruling class participated in a CIA coup against Chavez. But before the CIA could kill Chavez, the people and the military forced his release. Instead of punishing the criminals who would have murdered him, Chavez let them go.

According to Marx, Lenin, and Stalin, this is the classic mistake of the revolutionary. To rely on good will from the overthrown ruling class is the certain road to the defeat of the revolution.

Latin American has proved itself unable to learn this lesson: Revolutions cannot be conciliatory.

Trump is a dealmaker. The Oligarchy can permit him the sheen of success in exchange for no real change.

Trump is not perfect. He might fail on his own. But we should back him on the two most important elements in his program: to reduce tensions between the major nuclear powers, and to halt Washington’s policy of permitting globalism to destroy Americans’ economic prospects.

If tensions between nuclear powers worsen, we won’t be here to worry about other problems. The combination of the economy hollowed out by globalism and immigration is an economic nightmare. That Trump understands this is reason to support him.

Note: Some believe that Trump is a ruse conducted by the Oligarchy. However, as Hillary is the bought-and-paid-for representative of the Oligarchy, such an elaborate ruse is unnecessary. It is preferable for the Oligarchy to win on its own platform than to install a president on the opposite platform and then change him around. Another sellout increases the anger of the people. If Hillary had won, the Oligarchy would have had the voters’ mandate for their platform.

(Republished from PaulCraigRoberts.org by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. 1/ ‘…The organization, change.org, which claims to be a progressive group, but might be a front, along with other progressive groups, for the Oligarchy, is destroying the reputation of all progressives by circulating a petition that directs the electors…’

    Change.org has hosted a gazillion petition on its site. However if people want to, why not set up an Unz.com petition site. I’m sure the choice of petitions will be interesting.

    2/ ‘… and Pol Pot learned from Karl Marx, that change cannot occur if the displaced ruling class is left intact after a revolution against them…’

    Bad example for a variety of reasons. One reason relating to this argument is that Pol Pot did destroy his predecessors ruling class and yet he was still overthrown.

    It is true that the Bolsheviks did destroy the previous regime’s ruling class with the use of Cheka-GRU-KGB agents.

    But I can’t remembers if the Cheka-GRU-KGB agents were the good guys or the bad guys. And boy is this website not helping.

    3/ ‘…that directs the electors of the Electoral Collage…’ A little too poetic for this site, no?

    • Replies: @voicum
  2. Of course equating the Khmer Rouge with Trumpkins is like Pot calling the kettle black.

  3. Taras77 says:

    I would guess soros is working on one of his versions of a color revolution, this time on the streets of the US:

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/11/daisy-luther/soros-funding-trump-protests/

    I noted a blog presenting a copy of an ad, I believe on Craig’s List, offering $16 to $18 per hour for street demonstrators-I do not recall the exact job description.

  4. America, go clean your room.

    It would be nice if DT made the Special Ops yahoos do something useful for a change and sent them off in all different directions on a secret mission to round up the major traitors. I would imagine he has a copy of The Prince and has read it. I can dream, can’t I?

  5. Jason Liu says:

    Heh. And Trump hasn’t even done anything yet.

    He should outlaw and eject all of Soros’ organizations from the US. I want to see the snake squirm.

  6. A very strange article indeed, as the author is repeatedly switching sides, and the assertion that the protesters are “Besmirching” the name of “Progressives” gives the impression that he ( author) thinks that “Progressives” are somehow a good and positive force within society, which then places him clearly within the category of “leftist” or pinko, whatever.
    And his lament ” Destroying the reputation of progressives” makes no fucking sense whatsoever, seeing as this would be the optimal goal to achieve.
    He seems to be pro-Trump and anti-Trump at the some time.

    I have read other articles by him, and he has always confused the shit out of me, as he gives the impression of being leftist and rightest at the same time, of holding opposing viewpoints.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years, and pro jazz performer.

  7. Ivan K. says: • Website
    @Authenticjazzman

    gives the impression that he ( author) thinks that “Progressives” are somehow a good and positive force within society …. And his lament ” Destroying the reputation of progressives” makes no fucking sense whatsoever, seeing as this would be the optimal goal to achieve.
    He seems to be pro-Trump and anti-Trump at the some time.

    Well, since Trump made a high praise of Hillary and added he’s quite honest, he surely would say a good word or two about the ‘Progressive’ movement in the past.(1)

    (2) Progressives, I reckon, include those who marched on streets for blacks’ civil rights under risks: they received blows and bullets by the way.

    (3) Ideologies, and obsession with them and with who belongs to which urban tribe are products of the French revolution – which was Leftist. And bloody, and stupid, basically socially destrructive. The very fact of basing one’s thinking in terms of “sides” makes one a prisoner in the Leftist matrix that dominates for 200 years.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  8. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    LOL. Yeah, let’s go pol-pot on the elites.

    But we’ll need Hank Williams Jr for president for that one:

  9. @Ivan K.

    ” Those who marched on streets for blacks civil rights”.

    First of all I was raised by a black woman, so I fucking know that I hold more insight into the black-white issue than you do.

    Secondly the the civil rights problems have been resolved, amen, then is then and now is now, and today people of color have more latitude within US society then white folks do.

    Thirdly the french revolution was neither “rightest” or “Leftist”, these being abstract labels which can be arbitrarily inverted according to to ones goals.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member since 1973, and pro jazz artist.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @robt
  10. Cyrano says:

    Having missed the opportunity to elect for president such a peaceful dove of a candidate like Hillary Clinton, it’s understandable how parts of the American public can be upset with the election of Donald Trump.

    There is a large portion of the population – people to whom I like to affectionately refer to as morons – who believe that in order to instantly become a better human being, all you have to do is declare yourself to be a liberal.

    I mean, by all accounts Hillary is a rotten human being and now they regret not having elected her as president!!??!!??? Why? Because she is a “liberal”? She revealed how liberal she is with her superpredators speech, but who can remember that – it was so yesterday.

    That speech puts to shame any conservative, but hey at least she says she is a liberal, so therefore she is a much better human being. It’s tough to lose an election twice, but I am not worried about Hillary. I know that she has some cool friends to rely for support on in such trying times, like Jay Z and Beyonce. So she’ll be OK, she’ll pull through as long as she hangs out with them, as I am sure she always does and it wasn’t just an election stunt.

    • Replies: @LarryS
  11. Svigor says:

    Silver, after blowing the Republican primary, gave Trump a higher chance to beat Hillary than his rivals did, some of whom denounced him for giving aid and comfort to Trump supporters.

    I thought polls weren’t meant to influence the public. I’m sure I’ve read that somewhere.

    Latin American has proved itself unable to learn this lesson: Revolutions cannot be conciliatory.

    Or the much more important lesson: socialism is a disaster waiting to happen.

    Trump is not perfect. He might fail on his own. But we should back him on the two most important elements in his program:

    To end illegal immigration, and remove illegal immigrants. He needs to end legal immigration, too, but I don’t know if that will ever be in his program.

    Really, I’m becoming less and less anti-war as time goes on. I’m a racialist first, and anti-war a distant second, but, I’ve never gotten anything out of it. Anti-war guys never throw us a bone and help us out on open borders. I can think of tons of anti-war racialists, I know of zero racialist anti-war guys. I think racialists could be anti-war until the end of time, and the PC anti-war spergs would never acknowledge them, or throw them a bone.

    Yeah, I think I’m done helping you (#*!s.

    • Replies: @woodNfish
    , @KA
  12. Svigor says:

    Oh, and to refine that a bit, just replace “racialist” with “opposed to open borders.” I know racialism’s radioactive, but opposition to open borders is perfectly respectable. And still the anti-war (*@!s won’t crook a finger.

    Yeah, *#@( you guys.

  13. @Authenticjazzman

    … today people of color have more latitude within US society then (sic) white folks do.

    They do? In what way(s)?

    Thirdly the french revolution was neither “rightest” or “Leftist”…

    You may want to revisit that statement.

    …these being abstract labels which can be arbitrarily inverted according to to ones goals.

    Well yes.

    Political language — and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists — is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.

    George Orwell, “Politics and the English Language,” 1946

    “When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — “

    Alice in Wonderland

  14. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The ‘color revolutions’ played out and honed in other countries is now being put into play domestically. Who knows, if Trump doesn’t knuckle under and cooperate some unpleasant incident could also be initiated such as at Maiden to accelerate the chaos and confusion. They can’t bribe or blackmail him so this is their next recourse. Pence is a more conventional and status-quo sort of Republican so perhaps may be preferable as president to those pulling the puppet strings.

  15. joe webb says:

    “They [anti trumpers ] look like, and are acting worse than, the “white trash” that they are denouncing.”

    White Trash? This PCR is so bad…I cannot believe it. UR is also pretty bad, generally, with its professional anti-semites, and fulminators with regard to anything.

    This guy needs to be retired.

    Joe Webb

    • Replies: @anon
  16. Trump was correct actually, because he won. If that result had been interfered with to say otherwise, it would have required that reporting of the results be rigged. 

    “Now progressives are doing what they damned Trump for saying he might do under certain conditions.”

    They are doing what he suspected they would – rig the election results.

    And if some chicanery does keep him from office, then…

    “He knew he was right.”

  17. @Authenticjazzman

    “Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years, and pro jazz performer.”

    It’s a good thing that you manually append this self-aggrandizing tagline to every one of your posts, otherwise we’d never imagine this was the case based on their content. Though I do get the impression that Ignatius J. Reilly might be a more relevant pseudonym.

    Cletus Rothschild, legendary hillbilly elitist of 56-plus years, and pro fertilizer evaluator.

    • LOL: Johnny Smoggins
    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  18. “… the FBI fell back on the ancient common law rule that “there can be no crime without intent.”

    Yeah, maybe, but that’s a canard. Hillary’s offence was a violation of Statutory law, one that had no requirements for mens rea to be proven. Given the number of other Americans prosecuted and imprisoned under the relevant statutes, the body of common law would support her prosecution.

    • Replies: @Alden
  19. woodNfish says:
    @Svigor

    To end illegal immigration, and remove illegal immigrants. He needs to end legal immigration, too, but I don’t know if that will ever be in his program.

    That’s just nonsense, but Trump should halt all immigration anyway until our economy is back supporting all our citizens. Ending illegal immigration is as easy as requiring E-Verify and doling out heavy fines to companies employing illegals, and removing all immigrant welfare. Take away the jobs and they will leave on their own.

  20. Well yeah. A Soros funded color revolution. We’re being set up for a coup or an assassination. The protesters are led by mercenaries. Why do you suppose Bernie, Hillary and Barack remain silent. They are higher paid tools of the same Oligarchy.

    • Replies: @dahoit
  21. @Cletus Rothschild

    Brilliant observation indeed.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member since 1973, and pro jazz artist.

  22. @NoseytheDuke

    HEAR HEAR! A purge is sorely needed.

  23. @NoseytheDuke

    “It would be nice if DT made the Special Ops yahoos do something useful for a change and sent them off in all different directions on a secret mission to round up the major traitors. I would imagine he has a copy of The Prince and has read it. I can dream, can’t I?”

    I think copies of both The Prince and The Protocols of the Elders of Zion would come in handy as guidebooks for that particular task.

  24. LarryS says:
    @Cyrano

    “…in order to instantly become a better human being, all you have to do is declare yourself to be a liberal.”

    Liberalism is a club. As a group they identify themselves as more progressive, evolved, intelligent and virtuous than those outside the club.
    Peer pressure is the tool for recruitment. If you, too, want to be more evolved, intelligent and virtuous than everybody else then all you have to do is join the club. You can learn how to acquire the affectations of the knowing nod, the smirking smile and the disdainful dismissal of your inferiors.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  25. mad1 says:

    Mr Roberts,

    What if Marx too was a tool of the Oligarchy?

    “The famous Socialist theorist was the brother-in-law of the Prussian Minister of the Interior, Ferdinand von Westphalen

    It was and is no secret to those skilled in the study of political agents: even without the Prussian Minister of the Interior as his brother, Marx’s curriculum vitae would lead to this conclusion at first glance. For a private citizen, Marx had a remarkable number of contacts with important contemporary political figures. Towards his fellow dissidents, Marx displayed a sustained commitment to personal hatred and self-righteousness. From the ruling circles, Marx was praised for his deeply thought-out critique of capitalism. Starting out his spying career as the closest friend of theologian Bruno Bauer, Marx suddenly became the editorial director of the Rheinische Zeitung in Cologne, funded by the prime minister Ludolf Camphausen, who later promoted him to work in his ministry. Marx’s theories were directed against well-known targets among the early socialists. Marx and his cronies began by infiltrating Weitling’s Confederation of Craftsmen, and later undermined the First International. Spokesmen of the labor movement found his theories useless, and only Bismarck’s adoption of the Socialist Law allowed Marx to win influence over the social democracy. Upon his arrival in England, Karl Marx joined a partnership with David Urquhart, an agent of the British crown, and they became involved in agitation against Russia, which was threatening the global interests of the British.
    The ruling elite of the government have always been anxious to put their agents at the forefront of opposition movements. Considering that capitalists and the government have the means of power, this is typically not a problem. We will discuss the example of Marx and Engels in detail here, but of course they are not isolated cases, but only the very best examples of the infiltration and undermining of oppositional movements.

    It is no accident that Karl Marx, the lauded pioneer of Communism, was married to Jenny von Westphalen, the little sister of Prussian Minister of the Interior Ferdinand von Westphalen. All Marxists have diligently studied “Das Kapital” as though it represents great, dangerously subversive thinking; but according to credible reports, powerful and well-informed capitalists are said to have almost died laughing at the thought of Marxist revolutionaries wasting their time with value-form analysis. Of course, not one of the ‘revolutionaries’ has been willing to talk openly about the fact that he cannot make any sense of ‘Das Kapital’, lest someone might hold him a fool. So, Marxists all assure one another how much they have been impressed by the deep insights of Karl Marx, and if so many people say so, no one ever dares to disagree.”

    http://postflaviana.org/wolfgang-waldner-marx/

  26. Mr. Roberts,

    Consistently, you talk tough and with truth against American “Presstitutes,” the Mainstream Media.”

    However, during Donald Trump’s campaign and subsequent election as POTUS, we hear nothing from you on Donald Trump’s BullyPulpitting it up for Netanyahu and transforming the U.S. government lies about 9-11 into sacred synagogue script.

    A question, sir? The W. Bush Department of Justice advocated nothing but mass dissemination of transparent lies about what really happened on 9-11. So, can you please tell me how it would be possible for our Jewish controlled “Big 6” M.S.M. to report anything but a regurgitation of what the highest levels of government had recommended?

    I understand how one might hope Donald Trump will provide the means for “insouciant” Americans to step away from the Zionist gallows. But even you might benefit by coming to grip with the following question Christopher Bollyn asked president-elect Donald Trump, in an open letter “linked” below in its brief entirety:

    “How can we make America great again if we allow our nation to be governed by lies?” C. Bollyn.

    http://www.bollyn.com/#article_15763

    I think of all the great information you have conveyed throughout the past fifteen years, but I regret to say that current “Pressitutes” will have an easier time since you refuse to acknowledge the “elaborate ruse,” burglar election of Adelson/Netanyahu favorite, Donald Trump)

    I suspect you realize (& respect) that I do not come at you “anonymously” and (also) the fact that I am the guy who first encouraged author, Gary Corseri, to seek an interview with you. Thank you.

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  27. What if Marx too was a tool of the Oligarchy?

    I guess that would mean that Marx, Dick Cheney and professional thug “protesters” have something in common.

  28. KA says:
    @Svigor

    “Or the much more important lesson: socialism is a disaster waiting to happen.”
    Can a regime foghting crony capitalism,financialized economy ,debt financing of of 1% at the cost of poor and middle class or small business imposed by ,forced by ,and maintained bybChicago school of economy- IMF -WB ,survive ,succeed,chart a new path without breaking from it completely? Once you broke off,you have no paradigm to follow . You are forced to try inefficient Socialism . I think Brazil leader and Argentiani leaders were genuine So was Chavez . They did not succeed but it doesn’t mean western capitalism was the correct model for them to follow.

    In another vein,whole western capitalism’s succeess over last 2 centuries would not have have happened without the exploitation of third world and without internecine wars in Latic,central America and Africa.and Asia.

    • Agree: Kiza
    • Replies: @Miro23
  29. @Chuck Orloski

    Well and good I suppose. But would you really have preferred Hillary?

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  30. robt says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Yes, the French Revolution was leftist. That was the point. Murder the aristos, put on price controls, destroy the Church and rename everything, etc

    robt: Founder and only member of MMMensa, an organization so elite that it can accept no other members, because they are so insecure they would flaunt membership and brag immodestly about being in it, unlike me. Wait a minute – I just said I was in it … oh well. Maybe I’m just an idiot savant with an IQ off the scale – but wait – isn’t IQ just a measure of ‘intelligence’ relative to the culture you live in? Kind of like Godel’s Theorem, but for brains?

  31. @WorkingClass

    Hillary over Trump???? Of course not! I would not even wish her on being the P.M. successor to Netanyahu’s Likud government.

    Thank you.

  32. dahoit says:
    @WorkingClass

    Trump was on 60 minutes and said to his supporters who the MSM say(liars of course,as its hell bots being violent) are committing violence;Stop.
    They didn’t air it.
    Where is the Hell Bitches admonitions or even Obombas?What a bunch of criminals,and yeah, purge the ziomonsters.

    • Replies: @Alden
  33. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @joe webb

    I believe in San Fran the police record revealed that 70% of the protesters arrested did not vote . It makes no sense that they could not take out an hour from their day to vote and ensure a Hillary victory yet they will spend endless nights risking prison time to protest .

  34. nickels says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    The ‘progressive’ believes that the spirit of history moves towards the perfection of the alchemist man, the man-god.

    So they would accept the result of this latest puff in the winds of history as just another step towards the destiny of their tower of perfection.

    But clearly they do not accept this outcome of progress. So they really are just a bunch of hypocrits that don’t really believe history moves towards perfection at all. All their arguments about ‘We must adapt the old ways to the new realities’ are completely empty. Their notions of progress are really just means of buttressing their own momentum to try and claw for more. As soon as they don’t get their way…..

    In fact, they are just a bunch of tools used by the Oligarchy.

    PCR is a very brilliant man. It might take you a while to work up to understanding his articles.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  35. voicum says:
    @anony-mouse

    try to connect both of your brain cells. maybe you will understand…. but then , again , maybe not..

  36. Miro23 says:
    @KA

    “…chart a new path without breaking from it completely? Once you broke off, you have no paradigm to follow . You are forced to try inefficient Socialism .”

    Not necessarily. In old Swiss mountain lore there was a saying that if you get lost on a trail, you always have to retrace your steps until you arrive somewhere familiar. Never try to find a new path.

    Following this line of thought, the US can toss out everything that came after 1968 (apart from the technology, and special exemption to the FED where they can go further back).

    Finance gets back to the subsidiary position where it belongs, research and manufacturing are based in the US and multiculturalists are invited to either move to their countries of first loyalty (Israel, Mexico or wherever) or 100% accept America First, swearing an oath of allegiance to the Constitution, and if they really can’t do it, then accept “foreign resident” status with a work permit and no voting rights or jobs in the US administration, or leave the country. The argument is that America First and the Constitution are non-negotiable.

    If people immigrate into to the US why can’t they also emigrate out of it?. Anyone who is not willing to put America First and declare their loyalty to the Constitution has de-facto already left the US, so giving up their citizenship and taking “foreign resident” status or emigrating is just a formality.

    Enacting this policy would put the US on a firm foundation and no doubt generate major bleating from the 0,1% and their CCP (Counter Cultural Progressive) friends, but they would mostly be on the exit chute anyway so who cares.

    • Replies: @bunga
  37. RobinG says:
    @LarryS

    “…..the knowing nod, the smirking smile ….”

    Remember the supercilious smile of George Stephanopoulos when he interviewed DT before the election? Ha! Who’s smiling now!

  38. bunga says:
    @Miro23

    I guess you have been looking for an opportunity to utter those words for a long time very patiently Still this is the wrong response to the issue at hand of socialism and capitalism .

    BTW Lincoln administration tried ( I guess around the time after civil war ) to repatriate They just did not include themselves . Don’t stop at 1968 out of the fear that you might be included to chart some old path in eastern or southern Europe

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  39. @robt

    Toby

    That’s an interesting analogy to make. Which of Godel’s theorem do you have in mind?

    The French Peasants had very good reasons to revolt. Blame the counterrevoltionary violence of various Euopean Monarchies against the French Peasants for the excesses of the French Revolution. Whose side was the Catholic Church on?…The Monarchy?…The French Peasants?

    In the US….The Catholic Church is not on the side of the Native Born White American Working Class…perhaps a Native Born White American Working Class revolt against the US Catholic Church is justified?

    • Replies: @robt
  40. Alden says:
    @The Alarmist

    “no crime without intent” That is not part of ancient English/Celtic/Teutonic common law.

    It is not part of present day federal or any state criminal code in the United States. It is not used in criminal defense except in murder trials.

    PCR may think that the rules that apply to premediated murder, Murder in the first degree apply to all crimes but they only apply to premediated murder.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  41. Miro23 says:
    @bunga

    Still this is the wrong response to the issue at hand of socialism and capitalism.

    Maybe Socialism and Capitalism aren’t very fruitful concepts in the 21st century. For example, most people would probably agree that national healthcare should cover everyone in the most efficient low cost way, and who cares if it is Capitalist, Socialist, a mix of the two or something else altogether as long as it works.

    And for the private sector, if a company sells most of its manufactured products in the US, it needs to produce most of them in the US = higher prices/better jobs/lower trade deficits/higher tax revenues/higher employment/less social problems. The US isn’t Monaco, it has a large enough internal market to support just about every industry that has been off shored to Asia.

    Don’t stop at 1968 out of the fear that you might be included to chart some old path in eastern or southern Europe.

    It doesn’t matter when you arrived. The argument is about degree of commitment.

  42. Alden says:
    @dahoit

    When asked about the protesters, Obama said he would not ask them to stop. Daughter of a close friend has been heavily involved in BLM for about 2 years now. She is involved with the curry socialist Seattle City Council Critter, Sawant. There is a huge contingent from that cesspool of lunatic liberalism supported by Microsoft money, Seattle planning to go to Washington to disrupt Trump’s inauguration.

    Soros lived through the communist takeover of Eastern Europe after WW2. Granted the local communists had a lot of help from the Russian occupation forces, but he and his friends know what to do. There is also the problem that DC is a majority black city and the federal civil service and the DC city employees are heavily black, hispanic, Indian muslim etc.

    According to General Butler, the oligarchs made a serious attempt to overthrow President Franklin Roosevelt using the army. General Butler and other officers refused. But Soros & company are using well paid and organized agitators. If you know much about the French and American revolutions, it wasn’t the proles, peasants and stwalart frontiersmen who effected those revolutions. It was one set of elites against the other elites.

  43. @Alden

    “no crime without intent” That is not part of ancient English/Celtic/Teutonic common law.

    Not true. Generally crimes that fall under malum in se (evil … ones you could lose your head over, like murder, or your liberty, like theft) generally required mens rea or intent. Malum prohibitum (prohibited behaviours or actions) may or may not require mens rea. Statute is generally clear if it is requisite … relevant statutes here have no requirement to prove mens rea, and plenty of people have been fined and jailed for simple mistakes or negligence in national security matters … just not people like Hillary or her henchpersons like Huma, Cheryl, and the best Clinton example, Sandy Berger, who knowingly smuggled classifed notes out of a SCIF and only got a slap on the wrist.

  44. Anti-Trump protestors are tools of Emanuel Cellar…Jacob Javitts….and Greater Israel….who ordered this sewage?

  45. @nickels

    nickels :

    “PRC is a very brilliant man. It might take you a while to work up to understanding his articles”..

    Okay read this very carefully and slowly” :_

    In the year of our lord 1955, myself being IQ tested through the Wayne county/Detroit school system was found to be endowed with the highest IQ in the entire Detroit metropolitan area school systen, and at this time Detroit was not a ravished and burnt out third-world entity, rather is was a world-class metropol, with the top-earned wages in the US, it was a beautiful bustling and yet serene place to live and prosper.

    Move forward to anno 1973, in which I was awarded membership into the revered “Mensa” Society, according to their conditions, which are well known to be extremely demanding, etc., therefore you contention that ” it might take a while” for me to be able to understand PRC`s articles is beyond rediculous and absurd : I understand him fully when he is not off on an incomprehensible mumbo-jumo tangent.

    Authenticjazzman² Mensa” Society member since 1973 and projazz artist.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  46. Che Guava says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    myself being IQ tested through the Wayne county/Detroit school system was found to be endowed with the highest IQ in the entire Detroit metropolitan area school systen

    Nice, poor grammar and a bad spelling mistake in one overly long sentence.

    … and more of the same …

    rather is was a world-class metropol, with the top-earned wages in the US

    You fail on grammar (‘is was’), grammar, style, and meaning (‘top-earned wages’), and spelling (‘metropol’). Congratulations!

    awarded membership into the revered “Mensa” Society

    Newsflash: Many who would be eligible do not revere the thing and never bother applying.

    Others who should be ineligible enter through social connections and practise on (and/or help with) the tests.

    Most of us don’t give a damn.

    you contention that ” it might take a while” for me to be able to understand PRC`s articles is beyond rediculous and absurd :

    One stupid piece of illiteracy (‘you’ for ‘your’), a spelling mistake, and three errors of spacing in so few words.

    Well done!

    Authenticjazzman² Mensa” Society member since 1973 and projazz artist.

    The double quotation mark at the end of Mensa is strange, as is the superscripted ‘2’ at the end of your username. ‘Projazz’ is also a novel formulation, ‘professional jazz’ or ‘pro. jazz’ would be more literate.

    You certainly do a good job of exhibiting low IQ on style at many points in this post, it would likely be easy to rip some of your others apart in the same way.

    You would do well to drop that as your sign-off on every post, your username says the only part worth a mention, and I take your word for it that your sax and flute playing are exquisite.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  47. @Che Guava

    Che Guava,

    what you are apparently totally unaware of is :

    Grammar, spelling, etc are :

    ARBITRARY

    concepts, and based only upon : Agreements:

    There are no “Natural laws” dictating “correct” or “incorrect” spelling and grammar, rather this area is dominated by “Language experts” who earn their living by enforcing their theories and telling us how wrong we are in our employment of the principles of grammar, and spelling.

    In German or Italian one can hardly ever if never make a mistake as these are PHONETIC languages which English is, except for rare instances, not.

    For an example the word Guitar, if pronounced on a “correct” phonetic basis would sound as such : “Gooey-tar”, or to be correct phonetically it’s spelling should be changed to : Gitar

    And as far as “Mensa” is concerned : I still have my gold-embossed membership certificate, from the early seventies, and I would suggest that you contact them, Mensa, and advise them to change their acceptance parameters, and they are, according to you, erroneously issuing membership to unqualified individuals.
    Correct Spelling and grammar were not required abilities for “Mensa” membership.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  48. Che Guava says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Glad to see you bite. Sorry, I dont want to make you cry, but you really should drop the ‘Mensa’ crap on every post.

    You are clearly not a particularly intelligent person.

    I won’t bother to list your many errors of logic, spelling, use of capital letters, misuse of spaces in this latest post.

    erroneously issuing membership to unqualified individuals.

    One, it doesn’t refer to a qualification, but a claim.

    Two, as I said, I and the many other writers and commenters here who are in or near the claimed requirement for IQ range of Mensa never gave a damn for it.

    Three, you are a very good example, if you really have your

    gold-embossed membership certificate

    of why most intelligent people ignore Mensa.

    Four,

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

    ,

    I am glad that that you took my advice and dropped the ‘projazz’ silliness, but this latest post displays your less than stellar intelligence.

    Five,

    I would suggest that you contact them, Mensa, and advise them to change their acceptance

    As I said, most people who have supposedly required IQ levels have no interest in Mensa, why contact them?

    Six,
    you may consider dropping the claim on every post, believe me, it makes you look stupid.

  49. ” Believe me it makes you look stupid”.

    I wanna look stupid, it confuses the enemy.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” Society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

  50. robt says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    The Godel’s theorem that fundamentally states that proof within a universe is invalid. For example, a dimension can only be known from a higher dimension. Thus the analogy is that each human group (universe) places a value judgement according to what intelligence is required and expected within their group. To a ‘primitive’ group, someone from the Educated Big City may be considered an idiot, and vice versa. IQ assessment is invalid outside of the group for which it was created. It has value within the group, but perseverence and diligence are not weighed, but are significant. That may be why people often think their bosses are dumb.

    The ‘Native born White American Working Class’ Catholic, is anyway in the minority and shrinking quickly. No use to revolt, because the Church has new and growing clientele, and who will ultimately displace the WAWCC. Such is the nature of population shifts in history; just a numbers game.

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