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Some readers have asked for my take on the Orlando Shooting.

I don’t have one. Let’s see if together we can form a reasonable view.

Let’s start with the basic first question. Before there can be a murder declared, there must be a body. Has anyone seen on TV or in newspapers pictures of dead bodies? Bodies should be readily available if the reports are correct that fifty people were killed and 50 or more were wounded and in hospital.

I cannot bear the presstitute TV and print media. These are full-time propaganda organizations. Hopefully, some of you hold your nose and watch the news and can fill in the spaces. Has anything we have been told been confirmed by any real evidence?

Initially, I saw a CNN newscast and a RT report. The reports were heavy with verbiage of blood being all over the place, but the only visual evidence offered were three people, supposedly injured, being helped, not by medics or first responders, but by ordinary folks. A couple of people were helping a guy with tattoos in place of a shirt, but there was no sign of blood. Several people were helping people in police uniforms to carry a person who they dumped in the back of a pickup truck, not in the cab. About 6 people were carrying a person stretched out prone (no stretcher) down a street.

There was no blood and it looked like a crisis acting performance. Why prone? Is an injured person really able to keep his body stiff so that he can be carried along prone parallel to the ground? Where are they taking him? Is this just a camera walk-by?http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/06/12/orlando-nightclub-shooting-witness-sot.cnn/video/playlists/orlando-nightclub-shooting/ What has become of the protocol that untrained people are not to attempt to help injured people? When police arrive at a scene, they usually run off bystanders, not recruit them to assist their activities or allow them to carry away the wounded and dead.

Readers have noticed that the visual evidence does not match the verbal reports. Readers report that Fox “News” and MSNBC repeatedly show the same footage described above of bystanders carrying supposedly injured victims whose facial expressions are completely unstressed and show no pain, fear, or blood.

So has anyone seen any dead bodies? Any body bags? Any wounded taken to hospitals in ambulances? Any of the hospital wounded interviewed by TV reporters? Has any reporter checked with the morgue?

Allegedly, people inside the massacre location made cell phone calls and texted. But no one took photos or videos? Are there no security cameras? No doormen to notice a heavily armed person enter?

With 50 people killed and 50 or more wounded and reports of oceans of blood, there should be plenty of evidence Have any of you seen any of it?

As far as I know, dead bodies, other than those of the perpetrators themselves, seldom if ever emerge from the terrorist attacks. No dead bodies materialized from the Paris attacks except those of the alleged perpetrators. No dead bodies ever emerged from the Sandy Hook shootings. The only dead bodies I recall from the San Bernardino shooting were the husband-and-wife-alleged-perpetrators, and their hands were handcuffed behind their backs. Do police handcuff dead people who the police have shot to pieces? I don’t remember dead bodies from Brussels, just reports of dead bodies.

One could say that the media is averse to invading the privacy of dead people and their relatives by showing dead bodies, or that the media doesn’t want to show gruesome scenes—except for the videos of Muslim terrorists cutting off people’s heads. But by now the unanswered questions from the various shootings have created so much skepticism that a person would think the media would provide corroborative evidence for the official claims.

Maybe they have. As I admit, I don’t watch the presstitute news.

In order to shoot 100 people, the principal weapon allegedly used, an AR-15, would have had to have been reloaded several times, a procedure that takes enough time for people to rush the shooter and overpower him.

Is it possible for one person to shoot 100 people successfully but not be able to shoot even one cop when police appear? Remember the Charlie Hebdo event. The two killers were highly professional when they wiped out the magazine staff and a policeman in the street, but later when confronted by police they were so hapless and incompetent as to suggest that they were not the same people. Remember the San Bernardino shootings. Three eyewitnesses said that the shooters were three muscular males dressed in black, not a husband and diminutive wife with a new baby.

What is most troublesome about these shootings is that the story seems already prepared by the government and is immediately set. We are fed the story before there is time for investigation by government or media. The media never investigate. The media just repeat the government’s story over and over until it is set in everyone’s mind. Contrary evidence is just discarded.

The alleged perpetrators are always killed, so we never hear from them. The only survivor of the various terrorisms is the younger Tsarnaev brother who has been held incommunicado. We have never heard directly from him.

One might think that by now the US media would have at least a smidgen of skeptcism. After all, for the past 15 years we have wasted trillions of dollars in wars in the Middle East based on lies that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and Assad used chemical weapons against his own people. So why is the media willing to accept whatever the government says without any investigation or even raising a question?

ORDER IT NOW

The chairman, co-chairman, and legal counsel of the official 9/11 Commission have said publicly that the commission was lied to by the US government, that information was withheld from the commission, and that the commission was “set up to fail.” If the government will not tell the truth to the 9/11 Commission, why would the government tell us peons the truth?

It is not reporting merely to repeat the government’s claim. But that is all we get from the payroll jobs, unemployment and inflation reports to terrorism reports and claims of “Russian aggression.”

Send your emails with URLs of news broadcasts showing dead bodies and other real evidence. Don’t send in your speculations. They might be interesting and on the mark, but what we are trying to do is to see if there is any real evidence in behalf of this latest story of mass slaughter inside a night club.

It will be difficult, perhaps even impossible, to get any truth out of the Orlando shooting. Too many vocal and well organized interest groups have a strong stake in the government’s explanation. It comes to the aid of the anti-Muslim lobby and the Trump campaign which want Muslims kept out of the US and those here arrested and deported. It comes to the aid of the gun control lobby. It comes to the aid of the progressive-left that wants to normalize homosexual and transgendered people, thus the outpouring of sympathy for those shot in the homosexual night club. It comes to the aid of the spy industry and the police state that want no check on their activities. It comes to the aid of Washington’s murderous foreign policy—so what if we blow up Muslim children—look what they do to us when they grow up, which is what the Israelis say about the Palestinians. It comes to the aid of the neoconservatives and the military-security complex for whom wars against Muslims advance their agenda and fatten their pocketbook.

All of these interests are far more powerful than the right of peons to know the truth.

(Republished from PaulCraigRoberts.org by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Interesting article, PCR, but now you will have all the conspiracy theory charges thrown at you by (some) Unz readers, as if there never had been any conspiracies.

    My initial thoughts were “strategy of tension” as per Operation Gladio. But why now?

    One initial reaction here in Britain will be to swing a few more votes in favour of Brexit. Yes, I know that sounds bizarre but there is a roundabout way to this conclusion. Although the single market allows free movement of labour within Europe, justifiable anger at this has become a proxy for all types of immigration, espcially Muslim immigration. So reminding British voters about the “Muslim threat,” real or simply perceived, will swing a few more voters behind opposition to the EU.

    Our masters, those who hide in the shadows, must know this. So what are they trying to divert people’s attention away from? It must be more serious than the Brexit referendum.

  2. It’s tragic for democratic accountability when the credibility of government becomes so low that what should be incredible seems possible.

  3. “THE TRUTH is… anything you agree with and FAITH makes it all possible”. from FAITH: The Human O.S. more https://robertmagill.wordpress.com/2016/06/10/faith-the-human-o-s/

    • Replies: @Rehmat
  4. Kiza says:

    For someone who does not have a take on “Orlando shooting” PCR has the best take of anybody I read – skepticism.

    This is a brilliant paragraph

    Too many vocal and well organized interest groups have a strong stake in the government’s explanation. It comes to the aid of the anti-Muslim lobby and the Trump campaign which want Muslims kept out of the US and those here arrested and deported. It comes to the aid of the gun control lobby. It comes to the aid of the progressive-left that wants to normalize homosexual and transgendered people, thus the outpouring of sympathy for those shot in the homosexual night club. It comes to the aid of the spy industry and the police state that want no check on their activities. It comes to the aid of Washington’s murderous foreign policy

    The Orlando shooting appears just too convenient to the regime. Maybe it is real, maybe it is not. But taking what the regime’s media push on the face value would be a fundamental error in judgement.

    Bravo PCR, you are an island of sanity in a world of insane manipulations!

    • Replies: @Orville H. Larson
  5. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    This is Roberts at his kookiest.

    The media generally don’t show bodies.

    Even in 9/11 crisis, few bodies were shown.

    That doesn’t mean 3000 didn’t die.

    • Replies: @bunga
  6. bunga says:
    @Priss Factor

    Until the videos are out showing the movement including the entry of this man in the club, I will keep a healthy distance from trashing this article.

    This man a gay as claimed by some of his boyhood friends and also regular visitor to the night club has had big drinking problem, violent streaks was very unstable angry guy .
    His violent mind set was available in public data base.How did he get the guns?

    .

  7. Rehmat says:
    @Robert Magill

    I bet Justin Welby, Archbishop of Canterbury would agree with your understanding of FAITH.

    In september 2014, Justin Welby, in a live interview with the BBC at the Bristol Cathedral admitted that on many occasions he has doubted the very existence of God. Welby came to join the congregation for Holy Eucharist.

    When Welby was asked if he doubted the existence of God, he replied: “Yes. I do. In lots of different ways really.”

    He also referred to Jewish Bible: Psalms 88, 44 and 22 which he claimed reflect doubts over God’s existence.

    In the interview, Welby also revealed his frustration about God over His perceived injustices. I bet, he was thinking of injustices done to his fellow Jews by Christians in the past – and not the current victims of Jews, the nine million Palestinians….

    https://rehmat1.com/2014/09/22/archbishop-of-canterbury-doubts-existence-of-god/

  8. mh505 says:

    “In order to shoot 100 people, the principal weapon allegedly used, an AR-15, would have had to have been reloaded several times, a procedure that takes enough time for people to rush the shooter and overpower him.”

    As much as I agree with most of this article, the above is not valid. The change of a magazine (30 rounds in this case) is a matter of seconds; and he also carried a Glock 17 (allegedly). So you would have to be like right behind him in order to wrestle him down.

    Not very likely.

  9. Hepp says:

    Has any reporter checked with the morgue?

    I decided to factcheck a sentence from this article at random. Took about two seconds of googling to see yes, in fact, someone has.

    http://wfla.com/2016/06/13/state-emergency-mortuary-team-speeds-answers-for-families-of-orlando-shooting-victims/

  10. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I decided to factcheck a sentence from this article at random

    What did you fact check? I see where you answered (“yes, in fact, someone has“) a question (“Has any reporter checked with the morgue?“) that appeared in the article (although you only answered the 5th question from a 5-question paragraph — even though the preceding 4 questions create the context for the 5th) but I’m not sure how that’s relevant. Is your critique that Roberts should have omitted that one question?

  11. Yessss

    PCR is back from panhandling for his website. He’s learned his lesson and his no longer highlighting photographs that are obviously fake (i.e. obviously authentic).

    My question is why globalresearch.ca, a website PCR writes for, not buying the ‘fake’ idea? That would be a question PCR could answer if he wanted to.

    Bonus: ‘… The alleged perpetrators are always killed, so we never hear from them. The only survivor of the various terrorisms is the younger Tsarnaev brother who has been held incommunicado…’

    Nidal Hasan, Mehdi Nemmouche, Michael Adebolajo, Michael Adebowale, Bilal Abdullah, Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, Naveed Afzal Haq…

    and the little known https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan

  12. As a dedicated Paul Craig Roberts fan, this post depresses me. Please don’t go down the rabbit hole, Dr. Roberts! These “denialist” conspiracy theories are the wacky ones that discredit the rest of us, and draw attention away from what the government is really hiding. For example, why did the FBI let Omar go, just because his story was inconsistent? He still was a violent psychopath with a firearms license. Lots of pathetic losers have been snared in the FBI’s absurd concocted plots, and other people have been charged with threatening the President for just spouting off with no means of carrying out their threats. The Orlando shooting sounds like a probable repeat of 9/11: government agents came upon a looming tragedy and decided to let it proceed.

  13. fenster says:

    It takes a lot of gall to request that commenters refrain from speculation given the nature of the article itself.

    All those people on TV–all the doctors, the wounded, the ones who escaped–are we to believe they are all actors? And the list of the dead. Are we to believe that the list is fake? That my friend who says she knew one of those killed is lying? And that not one journalist, or even one citizen, has noticed that the people who died did not really exist, or that the people interviewed are not who they say they are?

    Jeez Paul if you really believe this stuff take a flight down there and walk around. A little shoe leather will quickly reveal that you are right–or that you are not. So who is the one wasting time with speculation?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
  14. @Kiza

    “The Orlando shooting appears just too convenient to the regime. Maybe it is real, maybe it is not. But taking what the regime’s media push on the face value would be a fundamental error in judgement.”

    Quite.

    One should always question the claims of officialdom. Keep your bullshit detector at max volume–especially when listening to anything from the U.S. Government. . . .

  15. @fenster

    That my friend who says she knew one of those killed is lying?

    No, I wouldn’t say your friend is lying. I would say that you are lying.

  16. I like the comment about the FBI seeing a good massacre in the making and decided to let it run its natural course for full cause and effect. I don’t think there is a bigger demographic than law enforcement in general that would love to see the citizenry disarmed and turned into mere subjects of the realm. They can then assume the role of the kings’ guard kicking down doors.

    But this whole thing being faked??? I don’t think so. Too many people involved not to have several, down the line, shooting their mouths off regarding the whole thing being a hoax. We have a lot of people with no conscience but you can’t pool that many together to pull this off. Too many support components with too myriad and sundry people to keep it tight. People would talk…big time.

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