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I am convinced that the US, and probably the entire Western world, that is, the American Empire, has entered an era in which respect for truth does not exist in public and private institutions. We have been watching this develop for some time. Think, for example, back to August 3, 2002, a recent time in terms of our present predicament, but a time prior to political consciousness of anyone younger today than 33 years old. In the summer of 2002, the world was being prepared by propaganda for a US invasion of Iraq. On August 3 of that year, the prestigious British publication, The Economist, summed up the consensus of ruling opinion in two sentences: “The honest choices now are to give up and give in, or to remove Mr. Hussein before he gets his [nuclear] bomb. Painful as it is, our vote is for war.”

As Lewis Lapham, myself and others asked at the time, what bomb?

The only evidence of a bomb was fabricated and known to be fabricated. The UN weapons inspectors concluded that the infamous Weapons of Mass Destruction were a creation of US propaganda. President George W. Bush eventually acknowledged that Iraq had no such weapons. US Secretary of State Colin Powell said that the lies he was deceived by the Bush regime into telling the UN about Saddam Hussein’s WMD are a stain on his career.

Despite the 2003 US invasion known to have been based entirely on lies, US troops were not pulled out of Iraq until 2011, and whether or not they were pulled out, they are back in Iraq now. None of these facts has had any impact on the good opinion that Washington and the media have of themselves.

Unchastened, Washington and its presstitutes lied about Libya and destroyed that prosperous country. They lied about “Assad’s use of chemical weapons against his own people,” and would have destroyed Syria also had it not been for the Russians.

Blocked by Russia, Obama, Hillary, and Victoria Nuland turned on Russia, first overthrowing the democratically elected government in Ukraine, and when Crimeans voted practically unanimously to reunite with Russia, the Obama regime and its media whores falsely alleged “Russian invasion of Ukraine.”

This false charge, repeated endlessly still today by the Western presstitutes, became the justification for economic sanctions against Russia that Washington imposed on its European vassals, entirely at their expense, which shows what craven cowards European governments are.

If Washington orders “jump,” the UK Prime Minister, the German Chancellor, the French President ask,”How High?”

One of the reasons Donald Trump was elected president was his commitment to normalizing relations with Russia and reconsidering the continuation of NATO a quarter century after its purpose ceased to exist with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Trump’s commitment constituted a direct threat to the power and profit of the US military/security complex, whose $1,000 billion annual budget requires a major threat that only Russia can provide.

ORDER IT NOW

Consequently, Russia and its president have been demonized. American propaganda, bald-faced lies, spread fear of Russia and Putin throughout the American Empire. The Empire’s response to those who confront the propaganda with the facts is to denounce those with the facts as “Russian agents” or “Putin’s dupes.” The hatred of Russia that has been inculcated by the neocons and presstitute media has resulted in Republican Senator John McCain, representing Arizona (to the disgrace of Arizonians), calling on the Senate floor Republican Senator Rand Paul, representing Kentucky, a person who “is now working for Vladimir Putin” for objecting to tiny Montenegro being made a NATO member. http://news.antiwar.com/2017/03/15/sen-john-mccain-rand-paul-is-working-for-vladimir-putin/

When this website was included on a list of 200 Russian agent/dupe websites by a secret, undisclosed group called PropOrNot, I wondered whose money was behind this entity as well hidden as an offshore money laundering operation. I made a joke of it, which amused the Russians.

As no one knows what PropOrNot is, the site has no credibility. So the forces for war moved up several levels to Harvard University Library. On that website someone posted what is essentially the PropOrNot list. Harvard does not say that the list is vetted or explain why anyone should believe it. The list is attributed to a Melissa Zindars, an assistant professor of communication and media at some unnamed institution. It is a list, she says, that she uses in her class to teach students how to avoid “fake and false news.” In other words, the list reflects her own ignorance and biases.

As one reader observed, Melissa tells on her own indoctrination by the presstitute, CIA-serving US media: “I read/watch/listen very widely, from mainstream, corporate owned sources (The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Boston Globe, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes) as well as The Atlantic, National Public Radio, and various local and alternative sources with different political perspectives (Truth-Out).”

So here we have the Western world informed by Harvard University Library of who is safe to read on the basis of an unknown young woman’s biases.

Those safe to read are the lying presstitute media who serve the cause of war and the police state.

When you witness this level of total corruption at what pretends to be America’s finest university, and it is on top of the 24 years of nothing but lies from the previous three two-term presidents, who between them have murdered and dislocated millions of people in numerous countries, and not been held accountable for even one of the millons of lives destroyed, you cannot avoid realizing that for the United States and its corrupt vassal states, Truth is something to be avoided at all costs.

When Trump collapsed under pressure and fired his National Security Adviser, Gen. Flynn, he unintentionally gave credence to the charge that any and all who think well of normalized relations with the other major nuclear power are “Russian agents,” and that to be a “Russian agent” means that you are guilty of treason and deserve to be impeached if you happen to be the President of the United States.

The consequence of Flynn’s removal from office has been to enable the Russophobic forces to define as treason the desire for detente with Russia.
If this had been imposed on US presidents during the First Cold War, probably life on earth would not exist today.

ORDER IT NOW

What is scary about the US and Europe is not merely the gullibility and insouciance of such a large percentage of the populations. What is very frightening is the willingness of the media, government officials, military, and members of professional organizations to lie for the sake of their careers. Try to find any shame among the liars that their lies expose humanity to thermo-nuclear annihiliation. It is not to be found. They don’t care. Just let me have the Mercedes and the McMansion for another year.

The Saker, an observant being, says that the color revolution being conducted by the neoconservatives, the Democratic Party, the presstitutes, the liberal/progressive/left, and by some Republicans against President Trump is “de-legitimizing the entire [democratic] political process which brought Trump to power and upon which the United States is built as a society.” http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46658.htm The consequence, says The Saker, is that “the illusion of democracy and people power” has been destroyed both domestically and abroad. The propaganda picture of “American Democracy” has lost its believability. As the false picture crumbles, so does the power that was based on authority constructed by propaganda.

The Saker asks: do we face an endless horror or a horrible end?

As George Orwell said decades ago, “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”

This is the way the criminals who rule us see it, and it is the way their whores in the media see it. If you tell the truth in America, you are a purveyor of fake news and possibly a traitor.

(Republished from PaulCraigRoberts.org by permission of author or representative)
 
• Category: Foreign Policy • Tags: American Media, Fake News, Russia 
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  1. Parbes says:

    Superb article. May all the mendacious warmongering MSM presstitutes in the West choke to death on their own bile; and may we live to see it!

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    “I read/watch/listen very widely, from mainstream, corporate owned sources (The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Boston Globe, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes) as well as The Atlantic, National Public Radio, and various local and alternative sources with different political perspectives (Truth-Out).”
     
    So in 2017, at America's richest institution of "learning," a woman (yes, her sex is relevant) can claim without contradiction to be well-informed based on her consumption of news and views from a from a purely domestic echo chamber.

    Evidently, this woman "scholar" believes nothing new or worthwhile could possibly be learnt from reading news, commentary, fiction and non-fiction and indeed primary sources in Chinese, Russian, French, Japanese, German, Portuguese, Finnish, etc.

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  2. Relax folks, it’s ok; we’re just being scared. The sinister technique used first by Harry Truman to scare us has gotten perfected over the years. His propaganda machine is on full automatic now. There was a time it could be controlled but that time is long past. Now the propaganda machine has a runaway engine and is threatening to shake itself to pieces. Problem is nobody still alive knows where the safety switch is or if one was ever installed. Can a great and formerly brave and prosperous nation frighten itself to death? Stay tuned.

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

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    • Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers
    It's Edward Bernays' sinister technique. HIS propaganda technique is on full auto now.
    , @jacques sheete

    The sinister technique used first by Harry Truman to scare us has gotten perfected over the years.
     
    ???? Truman was an idiotic piece of compost, way out of his element, and shouldn't even be given that much credit. He simply wasn't smart enough to use what had been perfected for some time.

    The US was lied to and dragged into at least two world wars, the war against Spain, and an imperial slaughter of the Philippines, plus Korea, Vietnam and all the rest in the 20th century alone because of the sinister techniques.

    In fact, the US cornstitution was signed largely under propagandized fake duress.

    It's an empire of lies, fraud, wholesale murder and theft and has been from the beginning. It's Ponzi scheme and protection racket at best.


    I will add, that the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods & errors.

    Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell, 14 June 1807

     

    , @Johann
    I am old enough to remember LBJ's Gulf of Tonkin incident which was totally fabricated and allowed him with a Congressional fiat to send a half a million American combat troops to Vietnam. Ten years later the Americans were running like hell to get out of there while leaving millions of dead behind. Of course this was always accompanied by the shrieking chant of USA USA USA by the American idiocracy.
  3. OT, but since he linked to it, does anyone know what happened to ICH? I just get 403 “forbidden” every time I try to get into it, for about a week now.

    Any clues? No one else has mentioned it anywhere that I have seen, and I wouldn’t think a site like that could just disappear without anyone noticing.

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    • Replies: @animalogic
    I don't know -- I've been reading ICH this week. Your service provider ??
    , @Alfred1860
    Information Clearing House has been working fine for me, including just now.
    , @anonymous
    Your

    403 “forbidden”
     
    results from the ICH server refusing you access, assumedly by internet address specified by some 'administrator.' You must share all or part of your internet address with one of the ICH commenters recently censored. Since censored posts never become visible and in this case, the administrator also deleted many existing posts, presumably in an attempt to destroy evidence of ill-will, apart from your 403, the site appears 'normal.' Sadly, far from it.
  4. alexander says:

    Dear Mr. Roberts,

    I remember, like it was yesterday, when we were all told with absolute “iron” certainty, that Saddam had launched an anthrax attack against our news rooms and our capitol.

    That both Tom Brokaw’s and Senator Leahy’s offices were hit by Saddam with a vicious anthrax attack.

    My response to this terror attack was the same response I imagine every US citizen experienced when they were informed the Japanese hit Pearl Harbor.

    Perhaps even more grave and resolute. …because I remember thinking….”the temerity of this Saddam character…to anthrax attack US, on the heels of 9-11……No way…..I remember thinking to myself..How DARE HE…What the f#ck does he think we are ?…..this is the time for USA to rise up against this !!!…….”It is time to rain HELL on this motherf#cker !

    …..Rain HELL on this Motherf#cker ….and No quarter……. until he is DUST !!!!

    Then, to find out…after the invasion of Iraq began…that it was all FRAUD…Mr. Roberts…that Saddam didn’t do it…AT ALL….That it was heinous , deceitful TERROR FRAUD….It still shocks me to my core .

    It Shocks me to my very marrow that there exist human beings on this earth who would LIE about something like that.

    Would you do that ?

    Isn’t it the equivalent of lying to everyone that Belgium bombed Pearl Harbor…..when they didn’t ?

    Does it get anymore “wrong” than this ?…..Does it get any more deceitful ?

    The idea that every person responsible for this malicious deception has NOT been remaindered to Guantanamo Bay for the rest of their lives……. is totally beyond human comprehension.

    Beyond human comprehension, Mr. Roberts.

    It is absolutely shocking ,that to this day,there has been NO accountability for this deceit.

    None whatsoever.

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    • Replies: @alexander
    The second point which must be made, Mr. Roberts.

    Is the absence of all accountability for these initial acts of terror fraud..... provides a "green light" for them to employ "terror fraud"against the American people ..AGAIN...

    Is this okay....with anybody ?

    What happens when the very SAME people who lied to us about the Saddam's Anthrax attack, ....decide, at some point....to inform us, with total "certainty".....that Vladimir Putin has just launched a missile strike at our U.S. Virgin Islands ?.

    What are we to do ?

    WHAT...ARE ....WE....TO ....DO ?


    We need to tell President Trump to lock these people up....."Right Away" , Mr. Roberts .
    So they are no longer capable of deceiving us into war.

    This has to be done.......RIGHT AWAY !

    I don't see any other option....do you ?
    , @JGarbo
    Old Chinese saying: Dogs bark at the Moon but the Moon still shines.
    Anyone who uses: must, should, it's time, ought, beyond comprehension - and other impotent outbursts - is barking at the Moon and playing the Establishment game. Children throw tantrums, while revolutionaries throw bombs.
  5. alexander says:
    @alexander
    Dear Mr. Roberts,

    I remember, like it was yesterday, when we were all told with absolute "iron" certainty, that Saddam had launched an anthrax attack against our news rooms and our capitol.

    That both Tom Brokaw's and Senator Leahy's offices were hit by Saddam with a vicious anthrax attack.

    My response to this terror attack was the same response I imagine every US citizen experienced when they were informed the Japanese hit Pearl Harbor.

    Perhaps even more grave and resolute. ...because I remember thinking...."the temerity of this Saddam character...to anthrax attack US, on the heels of 9-11......No way.....I remember thinking to myself..How DARE HE...What the f#ck does he think we are ?.....this is the time for USA to rise up against this !!!......."It is time to rain HELL on this motherf#cker !

    .....Rain HELL on this Motherf#cker ....and No quarter....... until he is DUST !!!!

    Then, to find out...after the invasion of Iraq began...that it was all FRAUD...Mr. Roberts...that Saddam didn't do it...AT ALL....That it was heinous , deceitful TERROR FRAUD....It still shocks me to my core .

    It Shocks me to my very marrow that there exist human beings on this earth who would LIE about something like that.

    Would you do that ?

    Isn't it the equivalent of lying to everyone that Belgium bombed Pearl Harbor.....when they didn't ?

    Does it get anymore "wrong" than this ?.....Does it get any more deceitful ?

    The idea that every person responsible for this malicious deception has NOT been remaindered to Guantanamo Bay for the rest of their lives....... is totally beyond human comprehension.


    Beyond human comprehension, Mr. Roberts.

    It is absolutely shocking ,that to this day,there has been NO accountability for this deceit.

    None whatsoever.

    The second point which must be made, Mr. Roberts.

    Is the absence of all accountability for these initial acts of terror fraud….. provides a “green light” for them to employ “terror fraud”against the American people ..AGAIN…

    Is this okay….with anybody ?

    What happens when the very SAME people who lied to us about the Saddam’s Anthrax attack, ….decide, at some point….to inform us, with total “certainty”…..that Vladimir Putin has just launched a missile strike at our U.S. Virgin Islands ?.

    What are we to do ?

    WHAT…ARE ….WE….TO ….DO ?

    We need to tell President Trump to lock these people up…..”Right Away” , Mr. Roberts .
    So they are no longer capable of deceiving us into war.

    This has to be done…….RIGHT AWAY !

    I don’t see any other option….do you ?

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    Precisely.
    , @Jeff Davis
    I voted for Trump to do just that. "Burn down Washington" is the way I put it. If he doesn't,...well that's okay because it's a process, and Trump has already done some heavy lifting in that he has demolished the "old" Republican party, and defeated, humiliated, exposed, and discredited the Dems. Then I will vote for the next guy who says he will continue the cleansing.

    If Trump screws up and gets coopted and the US continues its downward spiral, then that will just ratchet up the urgency for the revolution that he and Bernie started. Be patient and careful and pursue your own prosperity in an uncertain and capricious world. All problems create the pressure that leads inevitably to a solution. "This to shall pass."
  6. The problem goes back to the liemongers having positions of authority in government.

    Government has been a weapon of death, destruction, slavery, and stealing since its inception and so the 99+% of the population that wants government is getting exactly what they deserve.

    The remaining paltry number of people who don’t want government are its only victims.

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  7. @Robert Magill
    Relax folks, it's ok; we're just being scared. The sinister technique used first by Harry Truman to scare us has gotten perfected over the years. His propaganda machine is on full automatic now. There was a time it could be controlled but that time is long past. Now the propaganda machine has a runaway engine and is threatening to shake itself to pieces. Problem is nobody still alive knows where the safety switch is or if one was ever installed. Can a great and formerly brave and prosperous nation frighten itself to death? Stay tuned.

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

    It’s Edward Bernays’ sinister technique. HIS propaganda technique is on full auto now.

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    • Replies: @Robert Magill
    I was referring to HST and the invention of the National Security State. The technique was the continuous lying to the American people that would be necessary to implement it. You're spot on about Bernays' nasty technique of " engineering consent" that is so insidious today.
    , @Eagle Eye
    Bernays himself boasted that Joseph Goebbels was among the adepts of his techniques:

    In his 1965 autobiography, Bernays recalls a dinner at his home in 1933 where

    Karl von Wiegand, foreign correspondent of the Hearst newspapers, an old hand at interpreting Europe and just returned from Germany, was telling us about Goebbels and his propaganda plans to consolidate Nazi power. Goebbels had shown Wiegand his propaganda library, the best Wiegand had ever seen. Goebbels, said Wiegand, was using my book Crystallizing Public Opinion as a basis for his destructive campaign against the Jews of Germany. This shocked me. ... Obviously the attack on the Jews of Germany was no emotional outburst of the Nazis, but a deliberate, planned campaign.[32]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays#Recognition_and_criticism
  8. Parbes says:
    @alexander
    The second point which must be made, Mr. Roberts.

    Is the absence of all accountability for these initial acts of terror fraud..... provides a "green light" for them to employ "terror fraud"against the American people ..AGAIN...

    Is this okay....with anybody ?

    What happens when the very SAME people who lied to us about the Saddam's Anthrax attack, ....decide, at some point....to inform us, with total "certainty".....that Vladimir Putin has just launched a missile strike at our U.S. Virgin Islands ?.

    What are we to do ?

    WHAT...ARE ....WE....TO ....DO ?


    We need to tell President Trump to lock these people up....."Right Away" , Mr. Roberts .
    So they are no longer capable of deceiving us into war.

    This has to be done.......RIGHT AWAY !

    I don't see any other option....do you ?

    Precisely.

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  9. mcohen says:

    by casting doubt on news the,the fake news as a stratergy, simple allows the main players to stay ahead of the ordinary citizen.the man in the street is the real victim because it casts doubt on whom to believe.

    stinkfoot must be eradicated.pass the talcum.

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  10. Wally says:

    It’s right in front of your face, and they dare you to do something about it.

    “By deception thou shalt do war”.
    - Israel’s Mossad

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”

    - Gerard Menuhin / Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist

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    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    What do you want to know about holocaust? I can tell you the truth.
    Hint: Most of the holocaust stories are true, Some aspects are slightly exaggerated.
  11. David J says:

    An excellent article indeed.
    Unfortunately in my experience, most people don’t want to think for themselves. They want their news and *knowledge * handed to them on a MSM plate so they can just swallow it whole, without question. It’s much easier than reading, researching, learning and understanding through one’s own efforts isn’t it?

    Those who can be bothered to research, learn and understand are labelled as conspiracy theory nutcases and are cast out as the lunatic fringe.

    Another excellent site is Platosguns.com which also made the infamous “Propornot” list and here is the latest superb offering by Taxi who says it better than I ever could

    https://platosguns.com/2017/03/10/fake-news-flake-news-and-the-rise-of-the-electronic-town-crier/

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  12. @Robert Magill
    Relax folks, it's ok; we're just being scared. The sinister technique used first by Harry Truman to scare us has gotten perfected over the years. His propaganda machine is on full automatic now. There was a time it could be controlled but that time is long past. Now the propaganda machine has a runaway engine and is threatening to shake itself to pieces. Problem is nobody still alive knows where the safety switch is or if one was ever installed. Can a great and formerly brave and prosperous nation frighten itself to death? Stay tuned.

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

    The sinister technique used first by Harry Truman to scare us has gotten perfected over the years.

    ???? Truman was an idiotic piece of compost, way out of his element, and shouldn’t even be given that much credit. He simply wasn’t smart enough to use what had been perfected for some time.

    The US was lied to and dragged into at least two world wars, the war against Spain, and an imperial slaughter of the Philippines, plus Korea, Vietnam and all the rest in the 20th century alone because of the sinister techniques.

    In fact, the US cornstitution was signed largely under propagandized fake duress.

    It’s an empire of lies, fraud, wholesale murder and theft and has been from the beginning. It’s Ponzi scheme and protection racket at best.

    I will add, that the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods & errors.

    Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell, 14 June 1807

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    • Replies: @JackOH
    "It’s an empire of lies, fraud, wholesale murder and theft and has been from the beginning. It’s Ponzi scheme and protection racket at best."

    jacque, when I'm feeling particularly glum, I describe America as a 400-year series of politically motivated undue enrichment schemes. Free land (from the indigenous Indians and, later, other Euro-colonists, such as the Spanish), free labor (Africans, indentured Euro-folks, today's day laborers and other wage slaves), free social empowerment (courtesy of successful wars that lifted every American PFC with a rifle above the peoples of damn near everywhere), and so on. Serial racketeerization.

    I wouldn't want to seriously defend my characterization, but--Chrissake--America at its worst is a very bad place.

    Thanks for your contributions here at UR.
  13. It’s right in front of your face, and they dare you to do something about it.

    Which in large part explains that permanent, sickening ,smirk we see on the mugs of the likes of Netanyahu, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, McCain,Pelosi, Schumer and many many others. May I live to see the day when they and their ilk are on their knees, where they belong.

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  14. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    It's Edward Bernays' sinister technique. HIS propaganda technique is on full auto now.

    I was referring to HST and the invention of the National Security State. The technique was the continuous lying to the American people that would be necessary to implement it. You’re spot on about Bernays’ nasty technique of ” engineering consent” that is so insidious today.

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    • Replies: @Doggy Tails
    I try to make a point of watching the movie "Wag The Dog" at least once a year. It does wonders for making one see just how easy it would be to fake everything you see on 'the news'.

    Hmmm, come to think of it, its about that time again. This might be a Wag the Dog night. :)
  15. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    “Republican Senator John McCain, representing Arizona”

    He should be called John McCarthy

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    • Replies: @anarchyst
    NO!...McCarthy was right... McCarthy was successfully vilified by the communist left despite his successes in rooting out communists in our government and media.
    However, Edward T. Murrow's communist handler "Fred Friendly" escaped detection, despite being a rabid communist whose mission in life was to take down McCarthy.
    Fast forward to 1968 and the communist Tet offensive. Communist Walter Cronkite lied through his teeth in stating that the offensive was a military victory for the communists.
    North Vietnamese General Giap acknowledged that the American (communist) news media was responsible for giving them "new resolve" to fight on...the rest is history.
    , @jacques sheete

    He should be called John McCarthy
     
    Who's he?

    Since we're on the topic of fake news, I must say that Joseph McCarthy was more correct than not and a classic victim of fake news. He's still vilified like only a true truth teller could ever be and by the same numbnut crowd.

    To find out who's telling the truth, just look at who's getting piled on mercilessly.

  16. @Pissedoffalese
    OT, but since he linked to it, does anyone know what happened to ICH? I just get 403 "forbidden" every time I try to get into it, for about a week now.

    Any clues? No one else has mentioned it anywhere that I have seen, and I wouldn't think a site like that could just disappear without anyone noticing.

    I don’t know — I’ve been reading ICH this week. Your service provider ??

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    • Replies: @Pissedoffalese
    Oooooohkay. Still nothin' doin' on this end. How do I do a workaround? Is there a mirror site I can get into?
    , @Pissedoffalese
    Xfinity?
  17. @Pissedoffalese
    OT, but since he linked to it, does anyone know what happened to ICH? I just get 403 "forbidden" every time I try to get into it, for about a week now.

    Any clues? No one else has mentioned it anywhere that I have seen, and I wouldn't think a site like that could just disappear without anyone noticing.

    Information Clearing House has been working fine for me, including just now.

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  18. Agent76 says:

    Nov 20, 2016 Countering the Real Fake News

    Sibel Edmonds tackles the latest development on the censoring of so-called fake news by the major social media channels. Edmonds points out the actual news outlets responsible for the publication of fake news and propaganda, and offers you a solution.

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  19. republic says:

    Global Research published yesterday a 21st century update
    To the Index Librorum Prohibitorum

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/harvards-fake-guide-to-fake-news-sites-americas-21st-century-index-librorum-prohibitorum/5579697

    55 very good sources of information!

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    • Replies: @Old fogey
    I find it fascinating that WhatDoesItMean is not on the list, but David Stockman is. Thanks for sending the link.
  20. KA says:

    ” The Economist, summed up the consensus of ruling opinion in two sentences: “The honest choices now are to give up and give in, or to remove Mr. Hussein before he gets his [nuclear] bomb. Painful as it is, our vote is for war.” They are still around , still prattling, strutting ,walking and talking loudly and still penning article and still getting in and out of the big complex that houses the government corporate defense think tank ,and the media through the the revolving doors . They get to repeat what the convicted killers and the rapist, violent robbers , and incarcerated drug peddlers are prevented from doing .

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  21. Whenever there is a large death toll, people want to believe what the government tells them. Case in point: Rwanda. The US did intervene, both by proxy (Fred Rwigema, Paul Kagame) and directly (US special forces invading from Burundi). It was mainly Hutus killed, and it was mainly US/Canadian/British sponsored Ugandan Tutsis killing.

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  22. This article provides exposure upon the wicked lies which were disseminated by the W. Bush/Neoconservative administration in order to invade Iraq, April 2003.

    However, why did Paul Craig Roberts passover the lies which successfully encouraged the W. Bush Neoconservative, during late-2001, to invade Afghanistan & threaten Taliban (horse back riders) to decapitate them unless they handed over O.B.L. ?

    (Sigh) What the hell is going on here? Tell one (1) truth and forget about the bigger lie which preceded & facilitated the telling of the next big lie?

    (Sigh) Philosopher Saint Anselm wrote, “if one part of the whole argument is found incorrect, the whole must be rejected.”

    Are we “Sheeple,” who long to trust in the daring words of P.C.R., now obligated to accept P. Zelikow’s extremely unscientific and lying 9-11 Commission Report, and erase any linkage/ connection to the next phase of Neoconservative barbarism, Baghdad, “Shock and Awe.”

    At article end, Mr. Roberts quoted Orwell who, having worked for the B.B.C. during WW II, (admittedly) had first hand practice at countering “enemy” government lies with “allied” government lies. Orwell wrote: “At times of universal deceit , telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”

    Too bad Saint Anselm’s thinking methodology is long dead? As an appointed adviser, Anselm would certainly help President Trump “Make America Great Again” by mandating that the new administration & U.S. Congress go to “Confession” and repent for proliferating the murderous lies of 9-11, which come September will turn 16-years old .

    Full disclosure — I suffer from (late stage) Traumatic Government Lie Distressed Syndrome. Unfortunately, my Medicare supplementary plan does not cover treatment/therapy for this. (Sigh) My parish priest just tells me, “Relax, Chuck, and pray for the men & women in the military who defend our freedom.” What to do? Thanks all for hearing me out.

    post scriptum: Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn thought it stunk horribly how U.S. scholars and newsmen abjectly refused to trace the roots of Josef Stalin’s mass crimes against humanity to the Revolution’s Founding Fathers, the Bolsheviks.

    I suffer from Traumatic Government Lie Distressed Syndrome for which my Medicare does not cover treatment. Writing here is therapy. Thank you. .

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  23. Johann says:
    @Robert Magill
    Relax folks, it's ok; we're just being scared. The sinister technique used first by Harry Truman to scare us has gotten perfected over the years. His propaganda machine is on full automatic now. There was a time it could be controlled but that time is long past. Now the propaganda machine has a runaway engine and is threatening to shake itself to pieces. Problem is nobody still alive knows where the safety switch is or if one was ever installed. Can a great and formerly brave and prosperous nation frighten itself to death? Stay tuned.

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

    I am old enough to remember LBJ’s Gulf of Tonkin incident which was totally fabricated and allowed him with a Congressional fiat to send a half a million American combat troops to Vietnam. Ten years later the Americans were running like hell to get out of there while leaving millions of dead behind. Of course this was always accompanied by the shrieking chant of USA USA USA by the American idiocracy.

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    • Replies: @Orville H. Larson
    The Gulf of Tonkin incident was bullshit.

    U.S.S. MADDOX (DD-731) wasn't attacked on August 4, 1964. The tin can's radarmen and sonarmen mistook weather and sea conditions for surface contacts and torpedoes. Indeed, in the aftermath of the "attack," Captain John J. Herrick, USN, the squadron commodore on board, signaled CinCPAC and Washington that it probably hadn't happened. He recommended a careful reevaluation.

    Secretary of Defense MacNamara didn't inform the White House of this.
  24. anarchyst says:
    @Anon
    "Republican Senator John McCain, representing Arizona"

    He should be called John McCarthy

    NO!…McCarthy was right… McCarthy was successfully vilified by the communist left despite his successes in rooting out communists in our government and media.
    However, Edward T. Murrow’s communist handler “Fred Friendly” escaped detection, despite being a rabid communist whose mission in life was to take down McCarthy.
    Fast forward to 1968 and the communist Tet offensive. Communist Walter Cronkite lied through his teeth in stating that the offensive was a military victory for the communists.
    North Vietnamese General Giap acknowledged that the American (communist) news media was responsible for giving them “new resolve” to fight on…the rest is history.

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  25. @jacques sheete

    It’s right in front of your face, and they dare you to do something about it.

     

    Which in large part explains that permanent, sickening ,smirk we see on the mugs of the likes of Netanyahu, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, McCain,Pelosi, Schumer and many many others. May I live to see the day when they and their ilk are on their knees, where they belong.

    Yeah, the smirk is ubiquitous and annoying.

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  26. 22pp22 says:

    This article should be taught in schools. It is a classic of English literature.

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  27. Hey Chuck O.,

    Thought I’d pass along a couple paraphrases that smack of the stuff George Orwell liked to do. See below?

    PARTIAL ENLIGHTENMENT IS PARTIAL ENDARKENMENT!

    SOME REVOLUTIONARIES ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHER REVOLUTIONARIES.

    ENDLESS TERROR WAR IS GOLDMAN SACHS GROUP “FAT YEARS” PEACE!

    Tell me how do you like them? Write back & let me know soon? Selah!

    Chuck Orloski

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  28. @Anon
    "Republican Senator John McCain, representing Arizona"

    He should be called John McCarthy

    He should be called John McCarthy

    Who’s he?

    Since we’re on the topic of fake news, I must say that Joseph McCarthy was more correct than not and a classic victim of fake news. He’s still vilified like only a true truth teller could ever be and by the same numbnut crowd.

    To find out who’s telling the truth, just look at who’s getting piled on mercilessly.

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  29. @Wally
    It's right in front of your face, and they dare you to do something about it.

    “By deception thou shalt do war”.
    - Israel's Mossad


    The 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.
     

    "Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the "survivors"? Because it "dishonors the dead"? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

    - Gerard Menuhin / Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist
     

    What do you want to know about holocaust? I can tell you the truth.
    Hint: Most of the holocaust stories are true, Some aspects are slightly exaggerated.

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    • Agree: Cyrano
    • LOL: SolontoCroesus
    • Replies: @Wally
    I obviously know much more about the laughable & impossible events than you.

    You have no proof for your '6M Jews, 5M other, and gas chambers'.

    If you think you do then debate here:

    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com


    We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claims of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    The mere fact that we have so many "survivors" when it's claimed that 'the Germans tried to kill every Jew they could get their hands on' blows away the scam.
    The massive numbers of so called "survivor$" are living testimony to the fraudulence of the impossible '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers'.
     

    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869?
    http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/WhiteWolf722/TheSixMillionMyth.jpg
    , @Erebus
    I tried to join SC in an LOL, but my "LOL" button isn't cooperating.
    Rozumova? Methinks "Durna" suits you better.
    , @jacques sheete

    What do you want to know about holocaust? I can tell you the truth.
    Hint: Most of the holocaust stories are true, Some aspects are slightly exaggerated.
     
    Which holocaust?

    The Shoah or the Holodomor or what?

    I'm quite interested in any comments you may have about any holocausts you may know about.

    Thanks
  30. Wally says: • Website
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    What do you want to know about holocaust? I can tell you the truth.
    Hint: Most of the holocaust stories are true, Some aspects are slightly exaggerated.

    I obviously know much more about the laughable & impossible events than you.

    You have no proof for your ’6M Jews, 5M other, and gas chambers’.

    If you think you do then debate here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    We’re talking about an alleged ’6M Jews & 5M others’ … 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claims of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    The mere fact that we have so many “survivors” when it’s claimed that ‘the Germans tried to kill every Jew they could get their hands on’ blows away the scam.
    The massive numbers of so called “survivor$” are living testimony to the fraudulence of the impossible ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1869?

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    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    6 million number is about right If we count all Jews who died in the WW2.
    More than three and half million Russian Jews( Ashkenazim and Khazar) died.
    That leave 2 and half million European Jews.
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    I am erasing your name from my urgent list.
    In my opinion you are not a serious person
  31. JackOH says:
    @jacques sheete

    The sinister technique used first by Harry Truman to scare us has gotten perfected over the years.
     
    ???? Truman was an idiotic piece of compost, way out of his element, and shouldn't even be given that much credit. He simply wasn't smart enough to use what had been perfected for some time.

    The US was lied to and dragged into at least two world wars, the war against Spain, and an imperial slaughter of the Philippines, plus Korea, Vietnam and all the rest in the 20th century alone because of the sinister techniques.

    In fact, the US cornstitution was signed largely under propagandized fake duress.

    It's an empire of lies, fraud, wholesale murder and theft and has been from the beginning. It's Ponzi scheme and protection racket at best.


    I will add, that the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods & errors.

    Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell, 14 June 1807

     

    “It’s an empire of lies, fraud, wholesale murder and theft and has been from the beginning. It’s Ponzi scheme and protection racket at best.”

    jacque, when I’m feeling particularly glum, I describe America as a 400-year series of politically motivated undue enrichment schemes. Free land (from the indigenous Indians and, later, other Euro-colonists, such as the Spanish), free labor (Africans, indentured Euro-folks, today’s day laborers and other wage slaves), free social empowerment (courtesy of successful wars that lifted every American PFC with a rifle above the peoples of damn near everywhere), and so on. Serial racketeerization.

    I wouldn’t want to seriously defend my characterization, but–Chrissake–America at its worst is a very bad place.

    Thanks for your contributions here at UR.

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    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    And thank you for yours, kind sir!
    , @donut
    JackOH , I.m curious . Are you the Jack O'H...... that spent 6 years in the Trappist monastery in Kentucky ?
  32. Easy Answer.

    You have, probably very close at hand, an amazing device that will let you defeat them. For your TV, its called a ‘remote control’. On it, there is a button, probably labeled “Power”. Try pressing it. Your TV should turn off when you press that button. Radios should have the same button. And you can always refuse to buy and read what’s left of the newspapers.

    This has two effects. The immediate personal effect is that you won’t have their lies getting into your head. You’ll actually be better informed if you stop listening to them. Especially if you are already reading alternate sites on the internets.

    And the second effect is that if enough people do this and for long enough, then they go out of business. Their ratings or there readership numbers drop, then advertisers pay them less $ for the same ads. Then they probably have to cut back on their service, which is a downhill spiral that costs them readers/viewers who only liked the bit that just got cut.

    If we stop watching, if we stop listening, if we stop reading, then its both better for us and they go out of business. Win-Win.

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    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    Good recommendations. In fact, I've been practicing them myself for about half a century. Never had a TV and my kids never missed it either. Quit all print subscriptions decades ago too. One of my sons does the same.

    For anyone that misses those sorts of things, I've found this to be a fantastic substitute. (Thanks Mr. Unz!)

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/


    I highly suggest that people follow your ideas. There's a whole real world out there!
  33. @Robert Magill
    I was referring to HST and the invention of the National Security State. The technique was the continuous lying to the American people that would be necessary to implement it. You're spot on about Bernays' nasty technique of " engineering consent" that is so insidious today.

    I try to make a point of watching the movie “Wag The Dog” at least once a year. It does wonders for making one see just how easy it would be to fake everything you see on ‘the news’.

    Hmmm, come to think of it, its about that time again. This might be a Wag the Dog night. :)

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  34. @Johann
    I am old enough to remember LBJ's Gulf of Tonkin incident which was totally fabricated and allowed him with a Congressional fiat to send a half a million American combat troops to Vietnam. Ten years later the Americans were running like hell to get out of there while leaving millions of dead behind. Of course this was always accompanied by the shrieking chant of USA USA USA by the American idiocracy.

    The Gulf of Tonkin incident was bullshit.

    U.S.S. MADDOX (DD-731) wasn’t attacked on August 4, 1964. The tin can’s radarmen and sonarmen mistook weather and sea conditions for surface contacts and torpedoes. Indeed, in the aftermath of the “attack,” Captain John J. Herrick, USN, the squadron commodore on board, signaled CinCPAC and Washington that it probably hadn’t happened. He recommended a careful reevaluation.

    Secretary of Defense MacNamara didn’t inform the White House of this.

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  35. @JackOH
    "It’s an empire of lies, fraud, wholesale murder and theft and has been from the beginning. It’s Ponzi scheme and protection racket at best."

    jacque, when I'm feeling particularly glum, I describe America as a 400-year series of politically motivated undue enrichment schemes. Free land (from the indigenous Indians and, later, other Euro-colonists, such as the Spanish), free labor (Africans, indentured Euro-folks, today's day laborers and other wage slaves), free social empowerment (courtesy of successful wars that lifted every American PFC with a rifle above the peoples of damn near everywhere), and so on. Serial racketeerization.

    I wouldn't want to seriously defend my characterization, but--Chrissake--America at its worst is a very bad place.

    Thanks for your contributions here at UR.

    And thank you for yours, kind sir!

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  36. @V for Victory
    Easy Answer.

    You have, probably very close at hand, an amazing device that will let you defeat them. For your TV, its called a 'remote control'. On it, there is a button, probably labeled "Power". Try pressing it. Your TV should turn off when you press that button. Radios should have the same button. And you can always refuse to buy and read what's left of the newspapers.

    This has two effects. The immediate personal effect is that you won't have their lies getting into your head. You'll actually be better informed if you stop listening to them. Especially if you are already reading alternate sites on the internets.

    And the second effect is that if enough people do this and for long enough, then they go out of business. Their ratings or there readership numbers drop, then advertisers pay them less $ for the same ads. Then they probably have to cut back on their service, which is a downhill spiral that costs them readers/viewers who only liked the bit that just got cut.

    If we stop watching, if we stop listening, if we stop reading, then its both better for us and they go out of business. Win-Win.

    Good recommendations. In fact, I’ve been practicing them myself for about half a century. Never had a TV and my kids never missed it either. Quit all print subscriptions decades ago too. One of my sons does the same.

    For anyone that misses those sorts of things, I’ve found this to be a fantastic substitute. (Thanks Mr. Unz!)

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/

    I highly suggest that people follow your ideas. There’s a whole real world out there!

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  37. @animalogic
    I don't know -- I've been reading ICH this week. Your service provider ??

    Oooooohkay. Still nothin’ doin’ on this end. How do I do a workaround? Is there a mirror site I can get into?

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    • Replies: @Cookie-bugs
    Have you cleared your (computer) cookies?
    I find that helps when sites jam or don't load.
    You might have a "prop-or-not" bug installed unwittingly.
  38. Old fogey says:
    @republic
    Global Research published yesterday a 21st century update
    To the Index Librorum Prohibitorum
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/harvards-fake-guide-to-fake-news-sites-americas-21st-century-index-librorum-prohibitorum/5579697

    55 very good sources of information!

    I find it fascinating that WhatDoesItMean is not on the list, but David Stockman is. Thanks for sending the link.

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  39. Erebus says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    What do you want to know about holocaust? I can tell you the truth.
    Hint: Most of the holocaust stories are true, Some aspects are slightly exaggerated.

    I tried to join SC in an LOL, but my “LOL” button isn’t cooperating.
    Rozumova? Methinks “Durna” suits you better.

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    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    What the hell you talking about? What is SC, and what is LoL
    And if you want to rename me Durakova would be more suitable
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Somebody did write LOL? in addition to my comment.
    I did got irritated. I interpreted it as laughing out loud.
    But than I figured that it could mean also link on line.
    Do you want to access my e-mail?
    That is like you are trying to look under my skirt without my permission.
    I will give you my permission if you answer me these questions:

    Do you hate me?
    Do you like me?
    Do you know me from some previous site?

    This site for me is kind of recreational sight.
    I do comment intensively on Breitbart, and occasionally on fort russ.
    My e-mail is quite cluttered from responses from Breitbart.
    But I could still find some room there if you arouse my interest.

    Respectfully yours:
    Lady Ilyana.
  40. JGarbo says:
    @alexander
    Dear Mr. Roberts,

    I remember, like it was yesterday, when we were all told with absolute "iron" certainty, that Saddam had launched an anthrax attack against our news rooms and our capitol.

    That both Tom Brokaw's and Senator Leahy's offices were hit by Saddam with a vicious anthrax attack.

    My response to this terror attack was the same response I imagine every US citizen experienced when they were informed the Japanese hit Pearl Harbor.

    Perhaps even more grave and resolute. ...because I remember thinking...."the temerity of this Saddam character...to anthrax attack US, on the heels of 9-11......No way.....I remember thinking to myself..How DARE HE...What the f#ck does he think we are ?.....this is the time for USA to rise up against this !!!......."It is time to rain HELL on this motherf#cker !

    .....Rain HELL on this Motherf#cker ....and No quarter....... until he is DUST !!!!

    Then, to find out...after the invasion of Iraq began...that it was all FRAUD...Mr. Roberts...that Saddam didn't do it...AT ALL....That it was heinous , deceitful TERROR FRAUD....It still shocks me to my core .

    It Shocks me to my very marrow that there exist human beings on this earth who would LIE about something like that.

    Would you do that ?

    Isn't it the equivalent of lying to everyone that Belgium bombed Pearl Harbor.....when they didn't ?

    Does it get anymore "wrong" than this ?.....Does it get any more deceitful ?

    The idea that every person responsible for this malicious deception has NOT been remaindered to Guantanamo Bay for the rest of their lives....... is totally beyond human comprehension.


    Beyond human comprehension, Mr. Roberts.

    It is absolutely shocking ,that to this day,there has been NO accountability for this deceit.

    None whatsoever.

    Old Chinese saying: Dogs bark at the Moon but the Moon still shines.
    Anyone who uses: must, should, it’s time, ought, beyond comprehension – and other impotent outbursts – is barking at the Moon and playing the Establishment game. Children throw tantrums, while revolutionaries throw bombs.

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    • Replies: @jacques sheete

    Anyone who uses: must, should, it’s time, ought, beyond comprehension – and other impotent outbursts – is barking at the Moon
     
    Perhaps the barking is not at the moon at all.

    Anyway, some of the barking can be quite entertaining. Ever read Thomas Paine?
  41. @Wally
    I obviously know much more about the laughable & impossible events than you.

    You have no proof for your '6M Jews, 5M other, and gas chambers'.

    If you think you do then debate here:

    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com


    We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claims of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    The mere fact that we have so many "survivors" when it's claimed that 'the Germans tried to kill every Jew they could get their hands on' blows away the scam.
    The massive numbers of so called "survivor$" are living testimony to the fraudulence of the impossible '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers'.
     

    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869?
    http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/WhiteWolf722/TheSixMillionMyth.jpg

    6 million number is about right If we count all Jews who died in the WW2.
    More than three and half million Russian Jews( Ashkenazim and Khazar) died.
    That leave 2 and half million European Jews.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Utter nonsense for which you have no proof.

    Come on sweetheart, show us what you got ... or don't have. What are you afraid of?

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    The '6,000,000 Jews' lie and the laughing Mexican:

    https://youtu.be/nxbV3RsyQwI
  42. Sparkon says:

    New American saying: Dogs may bark at the moon, but we are not dogs, and no man is a moon.

    The Master said, “How uncultivated you are, Yu! A superior man, in regard to what he does not know, shows a cautious reserve.

    “If names be not correct, language is not in accordance with the truth of things. If language be not in accordance with the truth of things, affairs cannot be carried on to success.

    “When affairs cannot be carried on to success, proprieties and music do not flourish. When proprieties and music do not flourish, punishments will not be properly awarded. When punishments are not properly awarded, the people do not know how to move hand or foot.

    “Therefore a superior man considers it necessary that the names he uses may be spoken appropriately, and also that what he speaks may be carried out appropriately. What the superior man requires is just that in his words there may be nothing incorrect.”

    Confucius, The Analects – 13

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  43. The people damned well knew Iraq wasn’t a threat. They love kicking ass, destroying countries like it was a football game, and just need signalling from authority as to which country is the new nigger.

    I don’t use that term lightly, because it is precisely the psychology of lynch mobs who knew damned well that the black man they were torturing and killing had done no wrong. They just needed an excuse for their inner sadist to run amok. The ladies of the town would attend the lynchings in their fine attire. The men of the council, the sheriff, the mayor, the banker – ten thousand of these lynchings proves how sadistic people really are. Not to merely read about the millions we’ve bombed, but to have the screaming victim right before you and hopefully to come away with a piece of his bloody clothing in the same way a serial killer keeps momentos from his victims.

    If Americans didn’t want to be killing millions of brown people across the planet then they wouldn’t for one second tolerate the likes of the New York Times printing lies a five year old could see through.

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    • Replies: @jacques sheete

    They love kicking ass...

    They just needed an excuse for their inner sadist to run amok.
     
    Thank you.

    It seems that most of the time most people look for rational reasons for the actions of those in power, and fail to understand that they simply are dealing with sick people who are not motivated by the same things as the rest of us.

    I feel that the point needs to be hammered home continuously, forcefully and repeatedly if we somewhat, sometimes, rational characters have any hope of making any progress at all.

    Please keep 'em coming.
  44. Wally says: • Website
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    6 million number is about right If we count all Jews who died in the WW2.
    More than three and half million Russian Jews( Ashkenazim and Khazar) died.
    That leave 2 and half million European Jews.

    Utter nonsense for which you have no proof.

    Come on sweetheart, show us what you got … or don’t have. What are you afraid of?

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    The ’6,000,000 Jews’ lie and the laughing Mexican:

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  45. @Erebus
    I tried to join SC in an LOL, but my "LOL" button isn't cooperating.
    Rozumova? Methinks "Durna" suits you better.

    What the hell you talking about? What is SC, and what is LoL
    And if you want to rename me Durakova would be more suitable

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  46. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    What do you want to know about holocaust? I can tell you the truth.
    Hint: Most of the holocaust stories are true, Some aspects are slightly exaggerated.

    What do you want to know about holocaust? I can tell you the truth.
    Hint: Most of the holocaust stories are true, Some aspects are slightly exaggerated.

    Which holocaust?

    The Shoah or the Holodomor or what?

    I’m quite interested in any comments you may have about any holocausts you may know about.

    Thanks

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  47. @Wally
    I obviously know much more about the laughable & impossible events than you.

    You have no proof for your '6M Jews, 5M other, and gas chambers'.

    If you think you do then debate here:

    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com


    We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claims of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    The mere fact that we have so many "survivors" when it's claimed that 'the Germans tried to kill every Jew they could get their hands on' blows away the scam.
    The massive numbers of so called "survivor$" are living testimony to the fraudulence of the impossible '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers'.
     

    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869?
    http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/WhiteWolf722/TheSixMillionMyth.jpg

    I am erasing your name from my urgent list.
    In my opinion you are not a serious person

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  48. @Erebus
    I tried to join SC in an LOL, but my "LOL" button isn't cooperating.
    Rozumova? Methinks "Durna" suits you better.

    Somebody did write LOL? in addition to my comment.
    I did got irritated. I interpreted it as laughing out loud.
    But than I figured that it could mean also link on line.
    Do you want to access my e-mail?
    That is like you are trying to look under my skirt without my permission.
    I will give you my permission if you answer me these questions:

    Do you hate me?
    Do you like me?
    Do you know me from some previous site?

    This site for me is kind of recreational sight.
    I do comment intensively on Breitbart, and occasionally on fort russ.
    My e-mail is quite cluttered from responses from Breitbart.
    But I could still find some room there if you arouse my interest.

    Respectfully yours:
    Lady Ilyana.

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  49. @JGarbo
    Old Chinese saying: Dogs bark at the Moon but the Moon still shines.
    Anyone who uses: must, should, it's time, ought, beyond comprehension - and other impotent outbursts - is barking at the Moon and playing the Establishment game. Children throw tantrums, while revolutionaries throw bombs.

    Anyone who uses: must, should, it’s time, ought, beyond comprehension – and other impotent outbursts – is barking at the Moon

    Perhaps the barking is not at the moon at all.

    Anyway, some of the barking can be quite entertaining. Ever read Thomas Paine?

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    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
    "Anyway, some of the barking can be quite entertaining. Ever read Thomas Paine?"

    Dear Jacques,

    Presently, the "comments" might as well be "barking at the Moon" because both the Moon & the writings of Thomas Paine are much closer to P.C.R.'s topic.

    Respectfully, I will pause to simply ask Lady Ilyana if she "dislikes" staying on even a little bit of P.C.R.s' topic, including his having pointed out how "... the Obama regime & ts media whores falsely alleged 'Russian invasion of Ukraine." ?

    post scriptum: I really dig how "Wally" asked for Lady Ilyana to "show us what you got?" But unfortunately, Unz Review commenters will only see the outer garments which, by design, do not reveal artificial "lampshade "skin."
  50. @Backwoods Bob
    The people damned well knew Iraq wasn't a threat. They love kicking ass, destroying countries like it was a football game, and just need signalling from authority as to which country is the new nigger.

    I don't use that term lightly, because it is precisely the psychology of lynch mobs who knew damned well that the black man they were torturing and killing had done no wrong. They just needed an excuse for their inner sadist to run amok. The ladies of the town would attend the lynchings in their fine attire. The men of the council, the sheriff, the mayor, the banker - ten thousand of these lynchings proves how sadistic people really are. Not to merely read about the millions we've bombed, but to have the screaming victim right before you and hopefully to come away with a piece of his bloody clothing in the same way a serial killer keeps momentos from his victims.

    If Americans didn't want to be killing millions of brown people across the planet then they wouldn't for one second tolerate the likes of the New York Times printing lies a five year old could see through.

    They love kicking ass…

    They just needed an excuse for their inner sadist to run amok.

    Thank you.

    It seems that most of the time most people look for rational reasons for the actions of those in power, and fail to understand that they simply are dealing with sick people who are not motivated by the same things as the rest of us.

    I feel that the point needs to be hammered home continuously, forcefully and repeatedly if we somewhat, sometimes, rational characters have any hope of making any progress at all.

    Please keep ‘em coming.

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    • Replies: @Drapetomaniac
    Those who are in power have a malformed concept of morality. It seems that they think of it as a tool to manipulate and control others, thus subverting morality's intent.

    I look at morals as adaptive behaviors that are still evolving in man's attempt to withdraw from the animal world.
  51. @jacques sheete

    Anyone who uses: must, should, it’s time, ought, beyond comprehension – and other impotent outbursts – is barking at the Moon
     
    Perhaps the barking is not at the moon at all.

    Anyway, some of the barking can be quite entertaining. Ever read Thomas Paine?

    “Anyway, some of the barking can be quite entertaining. Ever read Thomas Paine?”

    Dear Jacques,

    Presently, the “comments” might as well be “barking at the Moon” because both the Moon & the writings of Thomas Paine are much closer to P.C.R.’s topic.

    Respectfully, I will pause to simply ask Lady Ilyana if she “dislikes” staying on even a little bit of P.C.R.s’ topic, including his having pointed out how “… the Obama regime & ts media whores falsely alleged ‘Russian invasion of Ukraine.” ?

    post scriptum: I really dig how “Wally” asked for Lady Ilyana to “show us what you got?” But unfortunately, Unz Review commenters will only see the outer garments which, by design, do not reveal artificial “lampshade “skin.”

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  52. @alexander
    The second point which must be made, Mr. Roberts.

    Is the absence of all accountability for these initial acts of terror fraud..... provides a "green light" for them to employ "terror fraud"against the American people ..AGAIN...

    Is this okay....with anybody ?

    What happens when the very SAME people who lied to us about the Saddam's Anthrax attack, ....decide, at some point....to inform us, with total "certainty".....that Vladimir Putin has just launched a missile strike at our U.S. Virgin Islands ?.

    What are we to do ?

    WHAT...ARE ....WE....TO ....DO ?


    We need to tell President Trump to lock these people up....."Right Away" , Mr. Roberts .
    So they are no longer capable of deceiving us into war.

    This has to be done.......RIGHT AWAY !

    I don't see any other option....do you ?

    I voted for Trump to do just that. “Burn down Washington” is the way I put it. If he doesn’t,…well that’s okay because it’s a process, and Trump has already done some heavy lifting in that he has demolished the “old” Republican party, and defeated, humiliated, exposed, and discredited the Dems. Then I will vote for the next guy who says he will continue the cleansing.

    If Trump screws up and gets coopted and the US continues its downward spiral, then that will just ratchet up the urgency for the revolution that he and Bernie started. Be patient and careful and pursue your own prosperity in an uncertain and capricious world. All problems create the pressure that leads inevitably to a solution. “This to shall pass.”

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  53. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wally
    Utter nonsense for which you have no proof.

    Come on sweetheart, show us what you got ... or don't have. What are you afraid of?

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    The '6,000,000 Jews' lie and the laughing Mexican:

    https://youtu.be/nxbV3RsyQwI

    Sweetheart? What a jerk.

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  54. donut says:
    @JackOH
    "It’s an empire of lies, fraud, wholesale murder and theft and has been from the beginning. It’s Ponzi scheme and protection racket at best."

    jacque, when I'm feeling particularly glum, I describe America as a 400-year series of politically motivated undue enrichment schemes. Free land (from the indigenous Indians and, later, other Euro-colonists, such as the Spanish), free labor (Africans, indentured Euro-folks, today's day laborers and other wage slaves), free social empowerment (courtesy of successful wars that lifted every American PFC with a rifle above the peoples of damn near everywhere), and so on. Serial racketeerization.

    I wouldn't want to seriously defend my characterization, but--Chrissake--America at its worst is a very bad place.

    Thanks for your contributions here at UR.

    JackOH , I.m curious . Are you the Jack O’H…… that spent 6 years in the Trappist monastery in Kentucky ?

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  55. @jacques sheete

    They love kicking ass...

    They just needed an excuse for their inner sadist to run amok.
     
    Thank you.

    It seems that most of the time most people look for rational reasons for the actions of those in power, and fail to understand that they simply are dealing with sick people who are not motivated by the same things as the rest of us.

    I feel that the point needs to be hammered home continuously, forcefully and repeatedly if we somewhat, sometimes, rational characters have any hope of making any progress at all.

    Please keep 'em coming.

    Those who are in power have a malformed concept of morality. It seems that they think of it as a tool to manipulate and control others, thus subverting morality’s intent.

    I look at morals as adaptive behaviors that are still evolving in man’s attempt to withdraw from the animal world.

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  56. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Pissedoffalese
    OT, but since he linked to it, does anyone know what happened to ICH? I just get 403 "forbidden" every time I try to get into it, for about a week now.

    Any clues? No one else has mentioned it anywhere that I have seen, and I wouldn't think a site like that could just disappear without anyone noticing.

    Your

    403 “forbidden”

    results from the ICH server refusing you access, assumedly by internet address specified by some ‘administrator.’ You must share all or part of your internet address with one of the ICH commenters recently censored. Since censored posts never become visible and in this case, the administrator also deleted many existing posts, presumably in an attempt to destroy evidence of ill-will, apart from your 403, the site appears ‘normal.’ Sadly, far from it.

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  57. Eagle Eye says:
    @Bard of Bumperstickers
    It's Edward Bernays' sinister technique. HIS propaganda technique is on full auto now.

    Bernays himself boasted that Joseph Goebbels was among the adepts of his techniques:

    In his 1965 autobiography, Bernays recalls a dinner at his home in 1933 where

    Karl von Wiegand, foreign correspondent of the Hearst newspapers, an old hand at interpreting Europe and just returned from Germany, was telling us about Goebbels and his propaganda plans to consolidate Nazi power. Goebbels had shown Wiegand his propaganda library, the best Wiegand had ever seen. Goebbels, said Wiegand, was using my book Crystallizing Public Opinion as a basis for his destructive campaign against the Jews of Germany. This shocked me. … Obviously the attack on the Jews of Germany was no emotional outburst of the Nazis, but a deliberate, planned campaign.[32]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays#Recognition_and_criticism

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Thank you.
    Here is a really good new report on the 9/11 miracles in Lower Manhattan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvAv-114bwM&feature=youtu.be
  58. Eagle Eye says:
    @Parbes
    Superb article. May all the mendacious warmongering MSM presstitutes in the West choke to death on their own bile; and may we live to see it!

    “I read/watch/listen very widely, from mainstream, corporate owned sources (The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Boston Globe, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes) as well as The Atlantic, National Public Radio, and various local and alternative sources with different political perspectives (Truth-Out).”

    So in 2017, at America’s richest institution of “learning,” a woman (yes, her sex is relevant) can claim without contradiction to be well-informed based on her consumption of news and views from a from a purely domestic echo chamber.

    Evidently, this woman “scholar” believes nothing new or worthwhile could possibly be learnt from reading news, commentary, fiction and non-fiction and indeed primary sources in Chinese, Russian, French, Japanese, German, Portuguese, Finnish, etc.

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    • Replies: @Parbes
    Well, what can I say? Pathetic beyond description.
  59. Parbes says:
    @Eagle Eye

    “I read/watch/listen very widely, from mainstream, corporate owned sources (The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Boston Globe, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes) as well as The Atlantic, National Public Radio, and various local and alternative sources with different political perspectives (Truth-Out).”
     
    So in 2017, at America's richest institution of "learning," a woman (yes, her sex is relevant) can claim without contradiction to be well-informed based on her consumption of news and views from a from a purely domestic echo chamber.

    Evidently, this woman "scholar" believes nothing new or worthwhile could possibly be learnt from reading news, commentary, fiction and non-fiction and indeed primary sources in Chinese, Russian, French, Japanese, German, Portuguese, Finnish, etc.

    Well, what can I say? Pathetic beyond description.

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  60. annamaria says:
    @Eagle Eye
    Bernays himself boasted that Joseph Goebbels was among the adepts of his techniques:

    In his 1965 autobiography, Bernays recalls a dinner at his home in 1933 where

    Karl von Wiegand, foreign correspondent of the Hearst newspapers, an old hand at interpreting Europe and just returned from Germany, was telling us about Goebbels and his propaganda plans to consolidate Nazi power. Goebbels had shown Wiegand his propaganda library, the best Wiegand had ever seen. Goebbels, said Wiegand, was using my book Crystallizing Public Opinion as a basis for his destructive campaign against the Jews of Germany. This shocked me. ... Obviously the attack on the Jews of Germany was no emotional outburst of the Nazis, but a deliberate, planned campaign.[32]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays#Recognition_and_criticism

    Thank you.
    Here is a really good new report on the 9/11 miracles in Lower Manhattan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvAv-114bwM&feature=youtu.be

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  61. @Pissedoffalese
    Oooooohkay. Still nothin' doin' on this end. How do I do a workaround? Is there a mirror site I can get into?

    Have you cleared your (computer) cookies?
    I find that helps when sites jam or don’t load.
    You might have a “prop-or-not” bug installed unwittingly.

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  63. One consequence of disregarding Truth is that they have become enemies of the little man at home and abroad. A technological Goliath that looks down upon humanity while blaspheming the Eternal God of justice. Woe is unto Babylon for she shall be overthrown within an hour and mighty is the One who will judge her.

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  66. Justin-Arn says: • Website

    Mr. Roberts,
    Cheers for a well crafted piece. I enjoyed it.
    You’re intial premise regarding the Western Media’s contempt for Truth, I believe is indeed the root reason Trump was able to win the election despite having the support of approximately zero media outlets.
    Now people speak of the ‘Post-Truth’ era as though it has something to with Donald Trump and Kellyanne Conway misstating facts or something like that.

    The smattes people in the room are appearing to be the Trump campaigners themselves however, as they appear to be the only ones who realize that truth has no objective existence. That the version of events spoken loudest and longest is the truth, and it doesn’t matter what any opponents of that truth may think, because unless they realize that the power to speak louder or longer, they’re incapable of stopping it.

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