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The Deep State and the Sex Tape
Martin Luther King, J. Edgar Hoover, and Thurgood Marshall

In the case of Martin Luther King, America’s deep state intersected with politics and civil rights and Thurgood Marshall’s strategy for African American legal equality in some ugly and dangerous ways.

And they intersect at a most unpleasant and unhappy point, one that is largely ignored when putting an optimistic, feel-good gloss over Dr. King’s struggle for civil rights: the infamous MLK sex tape gambit cooked up by the FBI.

The most uncomfortable issue raised by the existence of tapes is not the matter of Dr. King’s human appetites and deficiencies in the area of marital fidelity. It is the potential for blackmail, the leverage that the FBI and the US government could have brought to bear against Dr. King and his direction of the civil rights movement by exploiting the tapes.

And the case of the tapes also shines an awkward light on the relationship between America’s deep state and another African-American civil rights giant: Thurgood Marshall.

For background, I highly recommend Gilbert King’s Devil in the Grove: Thurgood Marshall, the Groveland Boys, and the Dawn of a New America. Reading it in the context of Ferguson, Garner, etc. this book really f*cked me up, as they say nowadays. Based on my experience, I’d recommend just picking up the book and reading it, without googling “Groveland Boys” or looking at some reviews of the book. All I can say is that, despite that determinedly sunny subtitle, it will take you into some very dark places.

Actually, what I will say is that the book also offers some more fascinating insights into the relationship between J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI, the political civil rights movement served by Dr. King, and the “lawfare” civil rights legal battle fought with similar dedication and personal courage by Thurgood Marshall.

As I wrote in a previous post, “Everybody Wants Their Own Stasi,” Hoover disliked and distrusted Martin Luther King as a troublemaker and, possibly, a communist asset. One of the worst abuses of the FBI was the campaign of illegal wiretaps and bugging against King and his inner circular conducted at the behest of the Kennedys. It culminated in the infamous “suicide letter” with an audio tape purporting to represent King’s sexual activities, prepared by the FBI and mailed to King’s home (not at the behest of the Kennedys, I should point out).

On the other hand, when pressed by LBJ, Hoover devoted massive resources to breaking the Mississippi Burning case and went on to destroy the Mississippi KKK with considerable efficiency and apparent enthusiasm.

And then there was the NAACP.

In the 1950s the NAACP’s strategy for attacking Jim Crow in the south was to federalize the legal issues, using the appeals process to pull the most egregious cases out of the racist local courts and carry them through the appellate courts and, if necessary/possible, before the relatively sympathetic Supreme Court. The Justice Department, including the FBI, was often a significant adjunct to this process, providing federal investigators to gather exculpatory evidence in NAACP Legal Defense Fund cases that local law enforcement, usually riddled with KKK members and sometimes too cowed and incompetent to do their jobs, had ignored or suppressed or worse.

The NAACP, and Thurgood Marshall in particular, were sedulous in courting the FBI and endorsing, encouraging, and actively supporting J. Edgar Hoover’s highest priority/obsession: his jihad against communist subversion.

And J. Edgar Hoover, as long as he was confident that inserting the FBI into southern civil rights cases would not “embarrass the Bureau”, particularly by involving the FBI in cases which threatened to terminate with humiliating defeats in local courts, was willing to oblige the NAACP.

I haven’t read up on the full history of the NAACP or Marshall, so I’m not in a position to tease out how much of their anti-communism was strategic (reflecting the need for rock-solid federal backing), political (the NAACP competed with a communist-penetrated organization, the Civil Rights Congress, for leadership in the black civil rights struggle), or deeply-held ideology.

All I can say is, after a bumpy start, in the late 1940s and 1950s the NAACP and Thurgood Marshall assiduously stroked J. Edgar Hoover on the anti-communism issue, and J. Edgar Hoover was generally sympathetic to the NAACP and its need for federal agents to assist in the investigation of crimes in the Jim Crow South.

Devil in the Grove provides some examples:

 

In April 1947, putting together an NAACP anticommunism position pamphlet, [NAACP president Walter] White requested a patriotic encomium from J. Edgar Hoover, who replied that it would be his “pleasure”. [pp. 111-112]

Early in the summer of 1950 [with nationwide desegregation of public education now seen as an achievable goal—ed]…Marshall and the board of the NAACP found it necessary to pass and adopt an anticommunist resolution, which directed the organization’s leaders to “eradicate Communists from its branch units.”…Marshall took special delight in trumping the political maneuvers of the NAACP’s communist wing…Marshall could…boast, “we socked them good”…The executive staff and majority delegates of the NAACP had in fact socked the communists good on virtually every resolution they’d brought to the convention floor in 1950. They walked out in frustration “and never came back,” said Marshall, whose management of the communist issue…earned him an oral commendation from J. Edgar Hoover. [pp. 205-207]

[On one occasion, Marshall was embarrassed that an informant with communist ties whom he had introduced to the FBI had found disfavor with the Bureau...] While Kennedy’s communist affiliations hardly bore upon the case, they provided Marshall, in his dismissal of the writer’s presumed scoops, with the opportunity to affect solidarity with the FBI. As always, Marshall expressed his appreciation for the bureau’s efforts…In return, he was thanked “for his appreciation of confidence in the work of this Bureau…” Once again, Hoover and Marshall performed their private rites of cooperation.[261]

Remarkably, the relationship between Thurgood Marshall and Martin Luther King, two civil rights icons, does not seem to have been any closer or sympathetic than the ties between Marshall and J. Edgar Hoover.

King, the evangelical populist was not on the same page with Marshall, and Marshall, whom I would characterize as the black cardinal in the high church of America’s deep state, perhaps found himself somewhat more at home in the company of its Grand Inquisitor, J. Edgar Hoover.
Readers can judge for themselves, with this excerpt from interviews recorded by Marshall’s biographer, Juan Williams:

Q: Did (Hoover) fear that King was a communist?
A: He just had an absolute blur on communism. It’s unbelievable. I don’t know what happened to him, I don’t know what happened but something happened.
No, it was personal. He bugged everything King had. Everything. And the guy that did it was a friend of a private detective in New York who’s a good friend of mine, Buck Owens. He called up and said, Buck, do you know Martin Luther King? And he said, no. He said do you know anybody that goes? He said yes. He said well you please tell him, don’t use my name but I’m in the group that’s bugging everything he’s got. Even when he goes to the toilet. I mean we’ve bugged everything and I think it’s a dirty damn trick and he ought to know about it.
So Buck called me and I called Brother King. He was in Atlanta then. And I told him about it and he said, oh forget it, nothing to it. Just didn’t interest him. That’s what he said. He didn’t care, no.
Q: How do you interpret that?
A: I don’t and I’ve never been able to. That he wasn’t doing anything wrong. Well they ain’t nobody who can say that. Right. Right. And when I called him up and told him that his house was bugged and all, he said so what? Doesn’t bother me. That’s what he said.
Q: Did you guys know about all this sex stuff that they talk about these days?
A: I knew that the stories were out. And I knew who was putting them out.
Q: Mr. Hoover?
A: No, it was a private police business. They used to settle strikes and everything. [Pinkertons] I’m not saying whether, I don’t know, I don’t know whether he was right or Hoover was right. I don’t know which one was right.
Q: What did you think about the fact that he didn’t care about being bugged?
A: Well, the answer was simple. I don’t know if a man can humanly do all the things. Five and six times a night with five and six different women. We add it all up, I mean he just couldn’t be all them places at the same time. I don’t believe in it personally. But I don’t know, when I was solicitor general, a lot of things came by, arguments between the attorney general and the director of the FBI and I, by internal rules, had to get copies of all of it. And we had to have a special safe and I know that of all the things that I listened to and read, I never found Mr. Hoover to have lied once. Not once. I don’t know, I’m not saying he always told the truth -
Q: You never found him to have lied?
A: That’s right. I mean he was never proved to be a liar. He always came up with the right stuff, usually it would be a taped thing. You can tell by the tape. I don’t know. But that’s between him and, I think the only way to do it would be him and King and put ‘em in the same room. And it’s too late to do that.

Marshall’s remarks support Tim Weiner’s portrait of Hoover in Enemies as an unnervingly astute and capable bureaucrat who effectively performed his impossible mission—navigating between the conflicting demands of the Constitution for civil liberties and the Executive Branch for universal intelligence—with marked success for five decades…

…perhaps as astutely and capably as Marshall shrank the grey areas between the Constitution, state law, and justice in his epic struggle for civil rights.

Contrast with Marshall’s dismissive attitude toward King and Jesse Jackson:

Who made Jesse Jackson? The press. Who made Martin Luther King? The press, they do it. Because it writes good, it writes well. And you know Martin Luther King didn’t have a publicity person. No sir. The press did it all. The press did it all.

Reading Marshall’s account of his awkward exchange with King over the surveillance issue, I find it hard to believe that King’s reaction to the intense surveillance was really “oh forget it, nothing to it. Just didn’t interest him…He didn’t care, no.”

I have a feeling King didn’t really feel that way. Maybe what he was thinking, “Marshall, he’s close to Hoover. I’m not going to let it get back to Hoover that I’m upset or afraid. That’s what he wants.”

David Garrow’s biography of King, Bearing the Cross, tells us of the actual aftermath of the letter:

The FBI’s frightening threat sent King into an even worse state of mind. He became so nervous and upset he could not sleep…”They are out to break me,” he told one close friend over a wiretapped phone line. “They are out to get me, harass me, break my spirit.”…King…had decided that something must be done about the FBI’s threat. He had tried resting at a private hideaway known to just two other people, only to have Atlanta fire trucks turn up at the door in response to a false alarm that King correctly surmised had been turned in by the FBI so as to upset him further…As a deeply depressed King…discussed the FBI situation [the Bureau had bugged King’s hotel room in New York]…The conversation revealed how greatly disturbed King was…King [characterized] the mailing of the tape as, “God’s out to get you,” and as a warning from God that King had not been living up to his responsibilities…When King was in Baltimore, [Andrew] Young and [Ralph] Abernathy met in Washington with [the FBI’s Deke] DeLoach [who denied] that the FBI had any interest in…King’s private life. Young and Abernathy knew that DeLoach’s assertions were false…Its one value, Young explained later, was to show him how FBI executives like DeLoach had “almost a kind of fascist mentality. It really kind of scared me”…DeLoach gloated to his superiors that he had tried to make the talk as unpleasant and embarrassing as possible…Meanwhile the Bureau kept its campaign on full throttle. Assistant Director Sullivan tried to derail a dinner honoring King…and two prominent Georgia newsmen…were contacted to offer them tidbits on King’s personal life…” [pp. 373-77]

A complicating element of the situation that King had been previously aware of Hoover’s hostility, and that the FBI was building a file on his sexual activities. At first, in November 1964, King tried to go on the offensive against Hoover. King critiqued Hoover’s alleged shortcomings in investigating civil rights cases and went the extra mile in denouncing Hoover (in calls wiretapped by the FBI) as “too old and broken down” and “getting senile.” Then King proposed, in Garrow’s words, that Hoover “should be ‘hit from all sides’ with criticism in a concerted effort to get President Johnson to censure him.” [p. 361]. As one might expect, this gambit failed to sway Johnson.

Instead, King was in the unhappy situation of realizing he had mortally offended a supremely ruthless, capable, and vindictive national security bureaucrat, one who also had documented evidence of details of King’s personal life that could destroy him.

King’s efforts to backtrack and reconcile with Hoover in a meeting arranged by Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach were, if not doomed from the start, too little too late, and King spent the next weeks under a pall of anxiety that even overshadowed his triumphal appearance to receive his Nobel Peace Prize at Stockholm.

Then the FBI dropped the hammer in January 1965, sending the tape and suicide letter. His wife, Coretta, heard the tape; King gathered his advisers to deal with the imminent threat of humiliation, disgrace, and failure.

King, bearing this unimaginable mental and emotional burden, descended into the vortex of Selma…

…and that is, apparently, where the saga of the King sex tape ends.

The next reference to Hoover in Garrow’s biography occurs in May of 1964, after King’s triumph at Selma and Montgomery, Alabama and LBJ’s endorsement of federal voting rights protections for African-Americans:

King knew the FBI still had an active interest in his personal life, and he worried greatly about a public revelation of the Bureau’s embarrassing tapes. He asked a longtime family friend, Chicago’s Rev. Archibald J. Carey, Jr., to speak with his friends in the FBI hierarchy. Cassey did so, reporting back to King that it would be wise to keep up his public commendations of FBI accomplishments.[425]

That’s all? Recall that Hoover bore an intense personal dislike for King, had information that could destroy King’s reputation and public standing and, indeed, had already played the sex tapes for much of official and unofficial Washington. Judging by the FBI’s machinations, Hoover would have been glad to see King commit suicide. For King, suppressing the tapes had been a matter of desperate, existential importance and endless worry.

After all this, all the lethal J. Edgar Hoover wanted was just a few generous public attaboys from Martin Luther King?

Don’t think so.

I can only draw the inference that LBJ, the only individual with the necessary stroke and personal relationship with Hoover to channel and modify the Director’s actions, convinced Hoover that the tapes should stay in the safe.

And Hoover, perhaps, stayed his hand because LBJ convinced him that there were plenty more radical and scary African-American leaders out there to destroy and King, in contrast, was actually a manageable, moderating force.

And perhaps, with the sex tapes in his safe–and serving as a sword of Damocles over King’s head–Hoover believed he could regard King as something of a beholden asset that could be accessed, guided, cajoled, bullied, and if need be publicly discredited in the course of the Bureau’s operations involving the African American civil rights movement.

King was the idealist who advocated for America “as it could be”.

Hoover and Marshall were two insiders “present at the creation”, their exalted status and power the result of a hard-won, superior understanding of the contradictions and potentialities of American government “as it is”.

Their lives–and services to the state–followed different paths.

At the time of the King surveillance, Marshall was serving as an appellate court judge; the next year LBJ appointed him Solicitor General and, in 1967 nominated Marshall for a seat on the Supreme Court. Hoover served as director of the FBI until his death in 1972. Martin Luther King, of course, was assassinated in Memphis on April 4, 1968.

 

Maybe declaring April 4 as “Martin Luther King Day” would be a more meaningful recognition of Dr. King’s suffering, struggle, and sacrifice.

(Reprinted from China Matters by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. BLACKS TRAFFICKED INTO USA AND INCITED TO RIOT AGAINST WHITES BY THE JUDAISTS—TO DESTROY WHITES BY PROXY.

    Thanks for the interesting article, Sir. We must remember that blacks were imported on slave ships by the Judaists, and then told to riot by the Judaists against whites for “civil rights” and the Judaists appointed and supported their puppet leaders like Martin Luther King, as proven here:

    Importing blacks on slave ships into USA:

    http://www.ihr.org/other/TonyMartin2002.html

    According to an article entitled: “Jews and the Civil Rights Movement”:

    “American Jews played a significant role in the founding and funding of some of the most important civil rights organizations, including the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) …….

    ”From 1910 to 1940, more than 2,000 primary and secondary schools and twenty black colleges (including Howard, Dillard and Fisk universities) were established in whole or in part by contributions from Jewish philanthropist Julius Rosenwald……..

    “During the Civil Rights Movement, Jewish activists represented a disproportionate number of whites involved in the struggle. Jews made up half of the young people who participated in the Mississippi Freedom Summer in 1964. Leaders of the Reform Movement were arrested with Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. in St. Augustine, Florida, in 1964 …..Most famously, Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel marched arm-in-arm with Dr. King in his 1965 March on Selma.

    ”The Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 were drafted in the conference room of Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism, under the aegis of the Leadership Conference, which for decades was located in the RAC’s building. ……”

    At: http://www.rac.org/jews-and-civil-rights-movement

    MLK’s Jewish owner and operator:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Levison

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  2. That was a very interesting read. When the movie Mississippi Burning came out, some criticized it for showing the FBI as heroes defending civil rights and breaking the Klan while they were in fact working to subvert King and would eventually go on to the COINTELPRO shenanigans a few years later. It turns out that both portrayals of the FBI were correct.

    As much as the FBI’s subversion of King and the Civil Rights movement is emphasized, the real subversion of the movement arose from the racial-essentialist faction that formed the Black Poser movement and sought to gain political advantages from the upsurge of black violence and related issues in the late 1960s. They were the true forebears of the identity politics that assured the irrelevance of the American left. COINTELPRO actually gained overt co-operation from Black Poser leaders who sought to use it in their power struggles. Elmer “Geronimo” Pratt, who was later exonerated from a trumped-up murder rap, was given up by Huey Newton, who ordered his minions to withhold exculpatory evidence that would free his rival. It has been theorized that the killing of Newton years later was in revenge for his setting up rivals for legal trouble.

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  3. @Tom_R
    BLACKS TRAFFICKED INTO USA AND INCITED TO RIOT AGAINST WHITES BY THE JUDAISTS—TO DESTROY WHITES BY PROXY.

    Thanks for the interesting article, Sir. We must remember that blacks were imported on slave ships by the Judaists, and then told to riot by the Judaists against whites for “civil rights” and the Judaists appointed and supported their puppet leaders like Martin Luther King, as proven here:

    Importing blacks on slave ships into USA:

    http://www.ihr.org/other/TonyMartin2002.html

    According to an article entitled: “Jews and the Civil Rights Movement”:

    “American Jews played a significant role in the founding and funding of some of the most important civil rights organizations, including the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) .......

    ”From 1910 to 1940, more than 2,000 primary and secondary schools and twenty black colleges (including Howard, Dillard and Fisk universities) were established in whole or in part by contributions from Jewish philanthropist Julius Rosenwald........

    "During the Civil Rights Movement, Jewish activists represented a disproportionate number of whites involved in the struggle. Jews made up half of the young people who participated in the Mississippi Freedom Summer in 1964. Leaders of the Reform Movement were arrested with Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. in St. Augustine, Florida, in 1964 .....Most famously, Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel marched arm-in-arm with Dr. King in his 1965 March on Selma.

    ”The Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 were drafted in the conference room of Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism, under the aegis of the Leadership Conference, which for decades was located in the RAC's building. ......"

    At: http://www.rac.org/jews-and-civil-rights-movement

    MLK’s Jewish owner and operator:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Levison

    you sure are emotionally invested in obsessing about jews online . a few questions .
    how many hours per day do you spend online ?
    do you ever say these type of things to ppl in real life ?
    do you think your emotional all caps online appeals and rants bear any measurable fruit ?

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    His fruit fell off the tree and clobbered you on the head.
    , @RobinG
    This depends on what fruit he's cultivating. Some here speculate that Tom's motive is discrediting the authors and repulsing readers from the site. Notice how he begins each post with similar compliment, "Thanks for the interesting article, Sir."
    , @Jim Christian
    There are several here that have been rejected by Jewish women for romance and so everything is Jewish conspiracy. EVERYTHING. Contradict them, they'll introduce you to new profanities and rich ones, too. You must be new..
    , @nickels
    Tom is correct on his two points here, however, although perhaps not quite as black and white, so to speak.
    1) Jewish involvement in the slave trade and in owning slaves was disproportionate.
    2) Jewish involvement in pushing the civil rights industry was massive.

    Of course, no race is a monolith, but these two facts are not to be ignored in this issue.

    After all, isn't it the ultimate hypocrisy to be a huge factor in introducing slavery and then also a huge factor in pushing white guilt about it?

    , @Anonymous
    Hasbara?
  4. I can read shit like this in the MSM. What’s unz.com’s interest with this P.Lee?

    Anyway, just release the fucking mlk tapes, all you leftists-in-chief of the US. That way, idiots can stop speculating about what’s on them. And the rest of us can hear what made Jackie Kennedy hate that Georgia cotton picker so much.

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  5. @marwan
    you sure are emotionally invested in obsessing about jews online . a few questions .
    how many hours per day do you spend online ?
    do you ever say these type of things to ppl in real life ?
    do you think your emotional all caps online appeals and rants bear any measurable fruit ?

    His fruit fell off the tree and clobbered you on the head.

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  6. @marwan
    you sure are emotionally invested in obsessing about jews online . a few questions .
    how many hours per day do you spend online ?
    do you ever say these type of things to ppl in real life ?
    do you think your emotional all caps online appeals and rants bear any measurable fruit ?

    This depends on what fruit he’s cultivating. Some here speculate that Tom’s motive is discrediting the authors and repulsing readers from the site. Notice how he begins each post with similar compliment, “Thanks for the interesting article, Sir.”

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    Some here speculate that Tom’s motive is discrediting the authors and repulsing readers from the site.
     
    That's also what I've been thinking all along. Either that or some loony tune who gets disability checks.
    , @John Jeremiah Smith

    Some here speculate that Tom’s motive is discrediting the authors and repulsing readers from the site.
     
    I was pleased that Tom's comment was the first one, placing it very conveniently adjacent to the "Commenters to Ignore" button.
  7. Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. had several skeletons in his closet.

    January 21, 2013 is remembered for three historical events. Barack Obama took oath on Rev. Martin Luther King’s copy of the Bible, federal celebration of King’s birthday – and a new Jewish prayer in honor of Dr. King. The prayer was distributed nationwide to synagogues representing all major Jewish denomination by the ‘Foundation for Ethnic Understanding’. The prayer goes as follows:

    “Heavenly God, who desires us to do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with You, we thank You for inspiring us with the life and example of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.”

    Stuart Appelbaum, president of the ‘Jewish Labor Committee (JLC)’, reminded American Jewish community that late Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., was not only a great supporter of Israel but he never equated Zionism to racism. An opinion discredited by two famous African leaders, Bishop Desmond Tutu (South Africa), and NOI leader Minister Louis Farrakhan (USA).

    Comrade Stuart Appelbaum in an article published in ‘Jewish Journal’ on January 18, 2013, said: “Dr. King spoke and wrote often about Israel. But toward the end of his life, Dr. King was particularly concerned was with the growing mischaracterization of Zionism as racism (apartheid)”….

    http://rehmat1.com/2013/01/22/dr-king-jr-jews-zionism-and-israel/

    On the other hand, American writer and author Chris Hedges, claimed in an article published on January 1, 2015 that Malcolm X understood the US better than Dr. King.

    “Malcolm X, unlike Martin Luther King Jr., did not believe America had a conscience. For him there was no great tension between the lofty ideals of the nation—which he said were a sham—and the failure to deliver justice to blacks. He, perhaps better than King, understood the inner workings of empire. He had no hope that those who managed empire would ever get in touch with their better selves to build a country free of exploitation and injustice,” wrote Hedges.

    http://rehmat1.com/2015/02/04/hedges-malcolm-x-understood-the-us-better-than-dr-king/

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  8. I wont be celebrating a day set aside for a communist thug who pushed white guilt.

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    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith

    I wont be celebrating a day set aside for a communist thug who pushed white guilt.
     
    Who? Hoover?
  9. @marwan
    you sure are emotionally invested in obsessing about jews online . a few questions .
    how many hours per day do you spend online ?
    do you ever say these type of things to ppl in real life ?
    do you think your emotional all caps online appeals and rants bear any measurable fruit ?

    There are several here that have been rejected by Jewish women for romance and so everything is Jewish conspiracy. EVERYTHING. Contradict them, they’ll introduce you to new profanities and rich ones, too. You must be new..

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    • Replies: @dcite
    No, I don't think so. Not their type.
    So what's next? The more general CIA invented term, c. 1966: "conspiracy theorist?"
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    @RobinG
    This depends on what fruit he's cultivating. Some here speculate that Tom's motive is discrediting the authors and repulsing readers from the site. Notice how he begins each post with similar compliment, "Thanks for the interesting article, Sir."

    Some here speculate that Tom’s motive is discrediting the authors and repulsing readers from the site.

    That’s also what I’ve been thinking all along. Either that or some loony tune who gets disability checks.

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  11. @marwan
    you sure are emotionally invested in obsessing about jews online . a few questions .
    how many hours per day do you spend online ?
    do you ever say these type of things to ppl in real life ?
    do you think your emotional all caps online appeals and rants bear any measurable fruit ?

    Tom is correct on his two points here, however, although perhaps not quite as black and white, so to speak.
    1) Jewish involvement in the slave trade and in owning slaves was disproportionate.
    2) Jewish involvement in pushing the civil rights industry was massive.

    Of course, no race is a monolith, but these two facts are not to be ignored in this issue.

    After all, isn’t it the ultimate hypocrisy to be a huge factor in introducing slavery and then also a huge factor in pushing white guilt about it?

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    • Replies: @marwan
    muslims are the ones disproportionate in the slave trade , not jews , muslims are the only ones continuously active in the slave trade today . from the 600,000 slaves in maurutania today to the sex slaves captured by isis , to the afghan boy love sex slavery , hey slavery is as islamic monopoly !!
  12. I think almost everybody who regularly reads Unz actually wishes the FBI would have taken down king when they had the chance.

    Happy Magic Negro Day.

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    @marwan
    you sure are emotionally invested in obsessing about jews online . a few questions .
    how many hours per day do you spend online ?
    do you ever say these type of things to ppl in real life ?
    do you think your emotional all caps online appeals and rants bear any measurable fruit ?

    Hasbara?

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    *In the spirit of Michael King(aka Martin L. King), the following speech is mostly a work of plagiarism.

    I HAVE A DREAM 2016.

    I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration of truth in the history of the internet..

    Six score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation so that black slaves would be freed and sent back to Africa in full understanding of the long-term danger posed by the naturally more aggressive and physically stronger Negro race against the white race. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of whites who wished to spare their descendants of the hellfire of black lust, aggression, and criminality that would engulf this nation if the Negro Problem weren’t solved.

    But one hundred fifty years later, the white man is still not free of the wild Negro. One hundred years fifty years later, the life of the European-American is still sadly brutalized by the fists of Negro thugs and ravaged by the violence of interracial lust. One hundred fifty years later, the white American is robbed, raped, and murdered on the streets and in his home by black invaders or conned by liberal Jewish elites who use the Magic Negro myth to guilt-bait, intimidate, and silence white folks. One hundred fifty years later, the Negro still doesn’t show any sign that he could maintain, let alone create, a functional civilization. And so I’ve come here today to dramatize a shameful condition.

    In a sense we’ve come to realize that the Negro’s check isn’t worth a dime except for bouncing like a basketball. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were hoping Americans of the future wouldn’t be so naive as to think high ideals could ever apply to Negroes whose nature was closer to childish savages than to civilized men. This note was a promise that all men, except black men genetically prone to rage and aggression, would be guaranteed the “unalienable Rights” of “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” It is obvious today that America has neglected the realistic intentions of the Founders, insofar as her white citizens have discovered since the 60s that integration with blacks means more burglary, bullying, theft, sexual assault, and murder. Instead of honoring the sacred obligation of racial and cultural preservation and survival, America has handed the Negro a blank check to run riot with, which is one of the major reasons why this nation is going bankrupt.

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    But we refuse to believe that the well of naive good intentions has run dry. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the vaults for more affirmative action, welfare, section 8 housing, and free-everything-else for the Negroes. And so, we’ve come to rely on Jewish financial wizardry and borrowing from the Chinese to write more blank checks with which Negroes can run wild and act like rap music pimps and thugs while the white middle class keeps shrinking and white working class is almost no more. Because we refuse to face up to reality, the Negro is now laughing at the white man as a ‘faggoty ass white boy’.

    It is now time to remind America of the fierce urgency of Now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of abstract idealism or to swallow the opiate of empty hope. Now is the time to be real about racial differences and what they mean to the future of democracy. Now is the time to reject the dark and dangerous alley of integration for the sunlit path of white racial community, survival, and security. Now is the time to save our nation from the encroaching jungle of racial thuggery and to set our feet on the solid rock of Western Civilization. Now is the time to make racial survival and justice a reality for all white people threatened, robbed, raped, and attacked by the stronger, fiercer, crazier, and more aggressive blacks.

    It would be fatal for white Americans to overlook the emergency of the moment. How many sweltering summers of ‘teen’ and ‘youth’ mob violence will have to pass before there is an invigorating autumn of reality and sobriety? 2016 is not an end but a beginning. And those who hope that the Negro is now content because Obama is president will have a rude awakening as the Negro, by his childish and rude nature, will simply demand mo’ and mo’. And there will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the white folks come together in realization that the physically stronger, intellectually shadier, and temperamentally wilder Negro is not only difficult to integrate with but is genetically programmed to destroy civilization. The whirlwinds of Negro crime, intimidation, and riots will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of truth emerges.

    This I must say to my people, who stand on the threshold peering into the doom of racial humiliation and extinction: In the process of regaining our rightful place, we must guard ourselves from misleading ideas. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom and pride by drinking from the false cup of Zio-neoconservatism whose ultimate agenda converges with their liberal brethren’s. We must forever conduct our struggle with clarity, focus, and discipline; we must always be mindful to separate the wheat from the chaff. We must also not allow our creative crusade to degenerate into thuggery of the likes expressed by neo-Nazis and the KKK. Again and again, we must rise to the noble heights of meeting Liberal Venality and Negro Thuggery with White Might.
    The marvelous new militancy that defines an awakening white America must not lead us to a denigration of all blacks, for some Negroes, as evidenced by their own tribalism, have come to realize that their destinies are not compatible with our destiny. As blacks have a right to be free as blacks and Jews have a right to be free as Jews, we have a right to be free as whites, and that means each people must have a world of their own.

    We can walk alone safely in a mostly white community, but try walking in a neighborhood with too many Negroes!
    And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always walk away from Negroes and ensure Negroes will not walk to where we live for we’ve had it up to here with Negro violence and thuggery. We must not turn back but must turn away the black.

    There are those who are asking the devotees of white rights, “When will you be satisfied?” We can never be satisfied as long as the white man is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of Negro thuggery. We can never be satisfied as long as our bodies, bruised from Negro fist and stained with Negro spit and cum, cannot find refuge from the howling madness of the ‘Ni**a’. We cannot be satisfied as long as Section 8 Housing plants violent and dangerous Negroes on our doorsteps. We can never be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of their pride and manhood by sports teams whose defacto policy is ‘Negro Only’ and by affirmative action whose motto is ‘Poor Whites and Dogs Need Not Apply’. We cannot be satisfied as long as a white person in Mississippi cannot walk safely and a white person in New York, unless he happens to be a rich Jew or liberal wasp, watches helplessly as the entire nation is being stolen by Wall Street banksters and Mean Street Negroes. No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until a revitalized white juggernaut steamrolls over Negroes to reclaim the nation for freedom loving noble Western peoples.
    I am mindful that some of you have suffered great trials and tribulations. Some of you have been anal-gang-raped in prison by Negroes with huge penises. And some of you have come from areas where your quest — quest for safety from black thuggery left you burned by flames of witch-hunting hysteria and staggered by the winds of political correctness. You have been the veterans of collective suffering orchestrated liberal Jews and Wasps. Continue to work with the conviction that unearned suffering is redemptive. Go back to Mississippi, go back to Alabama, go back to South Carolina, go back to Georgia, go back to Louisiana, go back to the white communities of northern cities, knowing that somehow this situation can and will be changed. Spread the word that affluent white people in safe communities must care for less fortunate fellow white folks who are oppressed by biological slavery that favors the smarter Jews and stronger Negroes.

    Let us not lose ourselves in the alley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.

    And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

    I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.” My dream is white people will realize that by ‘all men’, Jefferson meant all white men, for this is what he said of black people: “Even black men prefer white women over their own, just as orangutans prefer black women over their own.” Jefferson also said, “in memory they(blacks) are equal to the whites; in reason much inferior, as I think one could scarcely be found capable of tracing and comprehending the investigations of Euclid; and that in imagination they are dull, tasteless, and anomalous.” It sure explains the rise of rap music and the need of affirmative action for black students. Given MLK’s penchant for plagiarism, I have a dream that people rise up and see him as the fraud that he was.

    I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the descendants of former slave owners will no longer be beaten, bullied, robbed, and have their white girlfriends stolen by descendants of former slaves. I have a dream that white people can sit at their own tables because too many blacks, even in places of higher education, have no table manners and act worse than animals.

    I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of black violence, sweltering with the heat of black contempt for white boys and lust for white women, will be transformed into an oasis for decent peace-loving white folks. .

    I have a dream that all little white children will one day live in a nation where they will not be discriminated by the color of their skin according to the dictates of affirmative action but instead grow up with white consciousness and pride and unite and fight to create a new republic where they will be free from globalist exploitation and black crime.

    I have a dream today!

    I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious black thugs, with its leaders having their lips dripping with the phony words of “inclusion” and “diversity” — one day right there in Alabama little white boys and white girls will be protected from the fists of big black boys and black girls.

    I have a dream today!

    I have a dream that one day every alley shall be safe, and every street and town square shall be made habitable, the rough cities will be made decent, and the crooked Jews will be replaced by straight whites; and the glory of the racial justice and survival will radiate from the happy faces of every white person.

    This is our hope, and this is the faith that I come to you with.

    With this faith, we will be able to hew out of the mountain of disrepair a monument of hope – instead of paying a Chinese guy to hew out of a mountain the semblance of MLK that looks like a Negro Mao as a night club bouncer. With this faith, we will be able to rid this nation of the jiving discords of crazy blacks and restore the beautiful symphony of Western civilization. With this faith, we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together(without getting your ass buggered by a big-dicked Negro), to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

    I have a dream that all Americans will come to know that MLK was a shill for globo-Zionists. How is it that this great prophet of justice didn’t have an ounce of sympathy for Palestinians? Gee, my brothers and sisters, could it have been Zionists stuffed his pocket with lots of dough?

    I have a dream that all American will come to know that MLK wasn’t just a womanizer but a serial womanizer and thug who not only slept with countless women but beat them up and bragged about it. Some man of peace!

    I have a dream that all Americans will come to know that MLK worked closely with communists whose main agenda was to subvert white power to pave the way for globo-supremacism.

    I have a dream that all Americans will come to know that MLK’s family members are petty, greedy, and mediocrities who are financially feeding off their father’s legacy like Negroes feed on watermelons and fried chicken.

    I have a dream that all Americans will come to know MLK, the man who beat up women and bragged about it, was no man of peace but merely pulled a Trojan Horse trick to fool whitey with the hope of racial peace. He knew full well that racial equality will mean a whole bunch of Muhammad Alis in every school and street in America beating up white boys and taking white girls.

    I have a dream that all Americans will come to know that neocons who’ve taken over the conservative movement are also a cabal of globo-supremacists who are using the MLK cult to undermine and destroy any and all signs of white interests and white power.

    And this will be the day — this will be the day when all white Americans will be able to sing with new meaning:

    My country ’tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Of thee I sing because my son will no longer be beaten by Negro kids and my daughter will no longer be raped by Negro thugs.

    Land where my fathers died, land of the Pilgrim’s pride. Because if the original founders of America could see what has become of America – dominated by globalist Jews and arrogant Negroes – they would just puke.

    From every mountainside, let freedom ring! Let freedom ring. And may gunfire ring even louder for freedom grows out of the barrel of a gun like the Chinaman Chairman said.

    And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true. It must be true because ever since Negroes were given the opportunity to live as equal citizens, they’ve ruined one city after another and cost all of us dearly.

    And so let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire. Yes, so how depressing that NH went for Romney than Ron Paul.

    Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York. Yes, let’s reclaim NY for America away from the globalist Jews who use it to destroy all of white America.

    Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania. Yes, let’s end affirmative action that hurts ‘poor white trash’ – what Jewish liberals call lower class white people – in the Alleghenies.

    Let freedom ring from the snow-capped Rockies of Colorado. Yes, but as there aren’t too many Negroes up there, I’d say that part of America is pretty free as it is.

    Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California. Yes, but with Negroes, gays, Hispanics, whites, and Asians all divided in that state, I have no clue how the shit will hit the fan over there.

    But not only that:

    Let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia. Yes, and there is no greater freedom than being freed from Negro thuggery!

    Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee. Yes, because if Tennessee keeps progressing like it is, white folks will all have to run to mountaintops to be safe from Negro crime and thuggery.

    Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi. Yes, but with so many Negroes, I pray for white folks in that state. Few yrs back, a bunch of black kids beat up a white kid but blacks marched for ‘racial justice’ with full support of Jewish-controlled media. That is the true legacy of the so-called ‘Civil Rights Movement’.

    From every mountainside, let freedom ring. Yes, and let the words be “Negroes are stronger, dumber, and more aggressive than whites, and so white people have the racial right to be freed from Negro biological slavery.”

    And when this happens, when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all white people will be freed from black physical violence and Jewish intellectual/economic violence. And then we will no longer have to say with much grief:

    There goes the neighborhood! There goes the neighborhood!!

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  15. @nickels
    I wont be celebrating a day set aside for a communist thug who pushed white guilt.

    I wont be celebrating a day set aside for a communist thug who pushed white guilt.

    Who? Hoover?

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  16. @RobinG
    This depends on what fruit he's cultivating. Some here speculate that Tom's motive is discrediting the authors and repulsing readers from the site. Notice how he begins each post with similar compliment, "Thanks for the interesting article, Sir."

    Some here speculate that Tom’s motive is discrediting the authors and repulsing readers from the site.

    I was pleased that Tom’s comment was the first one, placing it very conveniently adjacent to the “Commenters to Ignore” button.

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  17. Unmentioned in this article as a probable motivation for Hoover’s scrutiny of King were his two Communist handlers, Stanley Levison and Hunter Pitts O’Dell. They had cosmetically “quit” the CPUSA before associating themselves with King, but this was a strategic move to give themselves a thin veneer of “plausible deniability,” not reflecting any real change in their principles. Further evidence of King’s ideological underpinnings may be seen in his attendance of the Highlander Folk School in Tennessee, a Communist front set up to train left-wing agitators. Rosa Parks was also an alumnus of Highlander – well before the incident on the bus.

    The CPUSA had been active in the black community since the 1920s, and attracted significant numbers of blacks, among them Paul Robeson, Langston Hughes, and W.E.B. DuBois (one of the founders of the NAACP). Suspicion on Hoover’s part that King was fronting for the Communists was reasonable, given King’s associates and the long history of Communist rabble-rousing amongst blacks.

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    • Replies: @Thirdeye
    Communists supported the Civil Rights movement? Good for them!
  18. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Intelligent Dasein
    I think almost everybody who regularly reads Unz actually wishes the FBI would have taken down king when they had the chance.

    Happy Magic Negro Day.

    Drama Queen much?

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  19. @nickels
    Tom is correct on his two points here, however, although perhaps not quite as black and white, so to speak.
    1) Jewish involvement in the slave trade and in owning slaves was disproportionate.
    2) Jewish involvement in pushing the civil rights industry was massive.

    Of course, no race is a monolith, but these two facts are not to be ignored in this issue.

    After all, isn't it the ultimate hypocrisy to be a huge factor in introducing slavery and then also a huge factor in pushing white guilt about it?

    muslims are the ones disproportionate in the slave trade , not jews , muslims are the only ones continuously active in the slave trade today . from the 600,000 slaves in maurutania today to the sex slaves captured by isis , to the afghan boy love sex slavery , hey slavery is as islamic monopoly !!

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    • Replies: @nickels
    Perhaps we can agree that it is a Semitic thing, then.

    At any rate, white Christians ended it.

    Yet those who disproportionately were involved have the baseness to push white guilt.

    European gentiles have been pretty slow getting into the blame game because it has never been our culture's way, but now that we are the soil in more than fertile!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5slOsyVIMcw
    , @Rehmat
    Well if make you happy, I wouldn't blame all the Jews for the White and Black slavery - but it's proven fact that Jewish elite did play the greatest part in slavery. If you don't believe that - then look at the Black Jews, Christians and Muslims still being treated like DOGS in the so-called "Jewish Israel".

    In 2014, Jewish billionaire Donald Sterling, 81, told his fifty-year younger non-White ex-girlfriend V. Stiviano: “It’s the world! You go to Israel, the Blacks are just treated like dogs.” When Stiniano asked Sterling: “Are the Black Jews less than White Jews?” – Sterling responded: “A hundred percent, fifty, a hundred percent.”

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/04/29/sterling-israel-treats-blacks-like-dogs/
  20. @marwan
    muslims are the ones disproportionate in the slave trade , not jews , muslims are the only ones continuously active in the slave trade today . from the 600,000 slaves in maurutania today to the sex slaves captured by isis , to the afghan boy love sex slavery , hey slavery is as islamic monopoly !!

    Perhaps we can agree that it is a Semitic thing, then.

    At any rate, white Christians ended it.

    Yet those who disproportionately were involved have the baseness to push white guilt.

    European gentiles have been pretty slow getting into the blame game because it has never been our culture’s way, but now that we are the soil in more than fertile!

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    • Replies: @marwan
    I contend that it is an islamic thing rather than a semitic thing . Afghani are not semitic but their islamic culture is practically based on bacha bazi , which means boy play and is pederasty and homosexual child sexual abuse . This practice is entrenched in their culture . It may include to some extent child pornography, sexual slavery, and child prostitution in which prepubescent and adolescent boys are sold to wealthy or powerful men for entertainment and sexual activities.[1] Bacha bazi has existed throughout history,[2] and is currently reported in various parts of Afghanistan . You can read about it here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

    Also of note is the fact that muslim group Boko Haram while not being semitic at all , in fact they are black africans , are muslim and admit their involvement in the slave trade . Boko Haram stage raids on christian villages and kidnap young girls and force them into sex slavery. Read about it here : http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/boko-haram-nigeria-women-describe-being-sex-machines-by-islamist-captors-1500247

    So you can see easily that it is not a semitic thing at all but an islamic thing . Abd means slave in arabic . in colloquial arabic abd is interchangeable for the the world black and black people are almost exclusively referred to as " abd " by muslims .
  21. @marwan
    muslims are the ones disproportionate in the slave trade , not jews , muslims are the only ones continuously active in the slave trade today . from the 600,000 slaves in maurutania today to the sex slaves captured by isis , to the afghan boy love sex slavery , hey slavery is as islamic monopoly !!

    Well if make you happy, I wouldn’t blame all the Jews for the White and Black slavery – but it’s proven fact that Jewish elite did play the greatest part in slavery. If you don’t believe that – then look at the Black Jews, Christians and Muslims still being treated like DOGS in the so-called “Jewish Israel”.

    In 2014, Jewish billionaire Donald Sterling, 81, told his fifty-year younger non-White ex-girlfriend V. Stiviano: “It’s the world! You go to Israel, the Blacks are just treated like dogs.” When Stiniano asked Sterling: “Are the Black Jews less than White Jews?” – Sterling responded: “A hundred percent, fifty, a hundred percent.”

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/04/29/sterling-israel-treats-blacks-like-dogs/

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    • Replies: @marwan
    Its a proven fact that muslims started the slave trade and have participated in its entirety up until the present day . No other group except muslims participate in slavery today . As far as slaving goes , muslims are to be considered a nonpareil .No western nation has participated in slavery since 1898 . However the islamic republic Mauritania continues to have 600,000 individuals living in slavery . http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/03/world/mauritania.slaverys.last.stronghold/

    Islamic state in Iraq and Syria participates in slavery . Specifically targeting ethnic and religious minorities such as yezid and christian women and hold them in sexual slavery . http://time.com/4152127/isis-yezidi-woman-slavery-united-nations/

    In afghanistan young boys are held as sexual slaves for older muslim men . http://www.newsweek.com/confessions-afghan-boy-sex-slave-337381

    In saudi arabia and use they kidnap bengladashi boys to be used as camel jockeys. they boys sleep in a dormitory and are sodomized at night time . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1IwQ7X-zWg
  22. @Jim Christian
    There are several here that have been rejected by Jewish women for romance and so everything is Jewish conspiracy. EVERYTHING. Contradict them, they'll introduce you to new profanities and rich ones, too. You must be new..

    No, I don’t think so. Not their type.
    So what’s next? The more general CIA invented term, c. 1966: “conspiracy theorist?”

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    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    Sure, conspiracy theorists litter the landscape like a persistent rash. 9/11 Truthers. Birthers (although Obama's situation is flaky), name a situation, there are folks that believe otherwise. There are folks here that believe everything from Sandy Spring on out to San Bernardino, Paris, it's all Israel's fault, or they were plots, wake up calls, false flags. They can't accept that shit happens, to them everything is always a plot. Problem with conspiracies, there are always whistle blowers. People with families, lovers, wives, children, friends, people talk, the truth always comes out. Stuff just happens. Ya have to let it go, live life.

    It isn't the Jews, it isn't the government, although government has a way of capitalizing on the bad things that happen, agency-building and the like. Do something about THAT. Mostly, conspiracy theorists are the folks on the outside looking in, missing out on the wealth, the excitement, being on the inside is heady stuff and the folks on the outside that want in and are barred for whatever reason get pissed. Hence, to them, the Jews, those on the inside, those that profit, they must be responsible for it all. Nonsense.

    Here comes the shit storm...
  23. @dcite
    No, I don't think so. Not their type.
    So what's next? The more general CIA invented term, c. 1966: "conspiracy theorist?"

    Sure, conspiracy theorists litter the landscape like a persistent rash. 9/11 Truthers. Birthers (although Obama’s situation is flaky), name a situation, there are folks that believe otherwise. There are folks here that believe everything from Sandy Spring on out to San Bernardino, Paris, it’s all Israel’s fault, or they were plots, wake up calls, false flags. They can’t accept that shit happens, to them everything is always a plot. Problem with conspiracies, there are always whistle blowers. People with families, lovers, wives, children, friends, people talk, the truth always comes out. Stuff just happens. Ya have to let it go, live life.

    It isn’t the Jews, it isn’t the government, although government has a way of capitalizing on the bad things that happen, agency-building and the like. Do something about THAT. Mostly, conspiracy theorists are the folks on the outside looking in, missing out on the wealth, the excitement, being on the inside is heady stuff and the folks on the outside that want in and are barred for whatever reason get pissed. Hence, to them, the Jews, those on the inside, those that profit, they must be responsible for it all. Nonsense.

    Here comes the shit storm…

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    • Replies: @nickels
    How is pointing out the two ESTABLISHED facts:

    1) Extreme Jewish involvement in slave trade.
    2) Extreme jewish involvement in communism and the civil rights movement, along with pushing white guilt.

    A conspiracy theory?

    Neither of these facts is in question.

    Not that what you say doesn't happen at times, its just that this isn't one of them.

    I'm on a thread over on another site where I'm being jewsplained how Christianity has been some great evil for over 2000 years. Get a big enough group of those with a chip on their shoulder living in your free society and you can expect they will be trying to destroy and undermine your culture on a continual basis. That is a FACT.

    And, as you point out. It certainly does NOT explain everything, but it is often a factor one would be hopelessly naive to neglect.

    , @NoseytheDuke
    I think you might want to see a doctor about that persistent rash problem. I especially appreciated that the final sentence of your post was one word only, Nonsense. The one word of truth in all of what you wrote and I couldn't have underlined or better placed it myself. Kudos.

    As a self-confessed coincidence theorist have you looked into the actual odds of many verifiable coincidences at seemingly disparate events that some are calling false flags? Did you ever hear about the Reichstag Fire, Tonkin Gulf? No?

    "The truth always comes out" does it? Not in your world. In your world even Newton's Laws become Newton's Theories in order for your logic to agree with what you posted. Quite a few people have accepted what are generally regarded as the laws of physics and so the nonsense that you coincidence theorists post re the 911 Truth (New OPEN investigation) Seekers simply invites ridicule or pity.

    No, everything is not a plot. What a silly statement. Some crimes do occur. Some monstrous crimes occur. Out of respect for the dead, their families, the emergency workers, all of the victims including the much reamed American taxpayer don't they deserve an open, honest investigation since the so-called investigation was provably a treasonous fraud? Don't you love America enough to agree that it is much warranted?

    Shit happens yes, and stupid is as stupid does.

    I'd very much like you to explain what you mean by the "heady stuff" that you referred to and is it by any chance related to your rash?
  24. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    GLOB used intellect, critique, and reason to bring down the old gods, legends, and myths of white power.

    But once the GLOB-people gained the power, they didn’t want their power to be challenged by intellect, critique, and reason.
    So, they erected new taboos, hysterias, manias, and faiths. The rational and critical mind chisels at the monuments of power.
    In contrast, the spiritual side of man gets down on his knees and worships and obeys the prevailing gods. The idea of the sacred comes with taboos. Taboos are seen as profaning what is holy and sacred, therefore taboos must be enforced.

    The Glob knew that white power was protected by its holy images, symbols, icons, and narratives
    The Glob had to deconstruct, demoralize,and finally degrade the white gods into something to mock, ridicule, and destroy. Look at all the Confederate monuments that are being torn down like Lenin statues all over Eastern Europe after the fall of communism.
    To denigrate and desecrate the holy, one uses reasons, mockery, and satire, thereby showing the emperor has no clothes.

    But that isn’t enough if you want to keep the power.

    The Glob brought down holy white symbols with their use of critique, reason, and satire.
    But then…
    Glob came to fear that whites and gentiles might use the same ploy to bring down Glob power.

    So, the Glob had to erect new holy gods: Holocaust, MLK, and rainbow-homo-worship. After all, the GLOB-run media censored all satirical mockery of Bruce ‘Caitlyn’ Jenner.

    The Glob used rational critique to bring down white gods but then erected new non-white gods to suppress white rational critique.
    The Glob used Glob reason/critique to destroy old taboos, and now it uses new taboos to suppress white reason/critique.

    According to PC — the witch-hunting dogma of the Glob –, the debate is OVER on ‘gay marriage’. You better just obey and worship the homo. And it isn’t enough to acknowledge that King did some good things, and also some bad things. No, you must totally worship him and believe that his memory is holy and that ANYONE who disagrees must be banished from society.

    Of course, the Glob gained control of whites not only by desecrating white gods and replacing them with non-white ones.
    They also did it by animal-izing whites to indulge in base desires. Whites were bound to lose out in this because blacks are better at sports and funky-ass music. if whites were the toughest and most ‘badass’ race, the animalization of mass appetites wouldn’t have done as much harm. After all, white athletes would dominate the sports fields, and white women would be full of admiration for alpha top dog white heroes. And whites would dominate pop music, and white girls would look up to white super-stars.
    But because blacks have an edge in sports and funky music, the animalization of human appetites into surrendering to base drives was bound to favor blacks over whites. It has turned white women into mudsharks and white males into pathetic cuckish ‘white boys’ full of admiration for black athletes and rappers.

    So, whites must now not only worship the holiness of King but surrender to the power of Kong.

    It is the King-Kong Synthesis.

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  25. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    https://theintercept.com/2016/01/08/hillary-clinton-earned-more-from-12-speeches-to-big-banks-than-most-americans-earn-in-their-lifetime/

    Free Speech may be endangered but not FEE Speech.

    Speech, the accepted way of bribery.

    Since outright bribery is illegal, make it legal by inviting someone to spout off cliches before the members of a powerful institution or rich industry.

    Since the money was given for a ‘service’ or ‘presentation’, it wasn’t bribery but just a fee.

    Rule of lawyers than Rule of Law.

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  26. @Jim Christian
    Sure, conspiracy theorists litter the landscape like a persistent rash. 9/11 Truthers. Birthers (although Obama's situation is flaky), name a situation, there are folks that believe otherwise. There are folks here that believe everything from Sandy Spring on out to San Bernardino, Paris, it's all Israel's fault, or they were plots, wake up calls, false flags. They can't accept that shit happens, to them everything is always a plot. Problem with conspiracies, there are always whistle blowers. People with families, lovers, wives, children, friends, people talk, the truth always comes out. Stuff just happens. Ya have to let it go, live life.

    It isn't the Jews, it isn't the government, although government has a way of capitalizing on the bad things that happen, agency-building and the like. Do something about THAT. Mostly, conspiracy theorists are the folks on the outside looking in, missing out on the wealth, the excitement, being on the inside is heady stuff and the folks on the outside that want in and are barred for whatever reason get pissed. Hence, to them, the Jews, those on the inside, those that profit, they must be responsible for it all. Nonsense.

    Here comes the shit storm...

    How is pointing out the two ESTABLISHED facts:

    1) Extreme Jewish involvement in slave trade.
    2) Extreme jewish involvement in communism and the civil rights movement, along with pushing white guilt.

    A conspiracy theory?

    Neither of these facts is in question.

    Not that what you say doesn’t happen at times, its just that this isn’t one of them.

    I’m on a thread over on another site where I’m being jewsplained how Christianity has been some great evil for over 2000 years. Get a big enough group of those with a chip on their shoulder living in your free society and you can expect they will be trying to destroy and undermine your culture on a continual basis. That is a FACT.

    And, as you point out. It certainly does NOT explain everything, but it is often a factor one would be hopelessly naive to neglect.

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    Points 1 and 2 are YOUR delusions. Others say they were French. Others say they were African slavers. I couldn't care less who they were, they were guys doing business and it was hundreds of years ago in any case. Yeah, yeah, these Jews, they're gonna be the RUIN of us, I tell ya!

    The Blacks and what they've done to our cities, including the absolute ruination, likely, of Jewish property and real estate values, not a word for that, not one. WTC, owned by Jews, of COURSE they arranged the conspiracy for 20 Arabs to fly planes into WTC. How on Earth could I have missed Jews organizing a 20/40 billion dollar hit on their own property, killing many Jews at the same time? And they sure gained a lot in exchange, a pathetic piece of crap Liberty Tower, occupied halfway up only from the sheer cowardice of those who come behind.

    No one nuttier than 9/11 Truthers. But notions of Jews and the slave trade and any relevance to today? The conspiracies? Directed by Jews? Laughable. Delusional. Paranoid. Senseless. Stupid. The dreams of those on the outside looking in and not liking the view. I'm not even Jewish, but I am rational and sensible. These notions are sick. They are the notions of those who envy wealth and/or are driven by Nazi/Islamic fervor. It is that simple, LADIES.

  27. @Crawfurdmuir
    Unmentioned in this article as a probable motivation for Hoover's scrutiny of King were his two Communist handlers, Stanley Levison and Hunter Pitts O'Dell. They had cosmetically "quit" the CPUSA before associating themselves with King, but this was a strategic move to give themselves a thin veneer of "plausible deniability," not reflecting any real change in their principles. Further evidence of King's ideological underpinnings may be seen in his attendance of the Highlander Folk School in Tennessee, a Communist front set up to train left-wing agitators. Rosa Parks was also an alumnus of Highlander - well before the incident on the bus.

    The CPUSA had been active in the black community since the 1920s, and attracted significant numbers of blacks, among them Paul Robeson, Langston Hughes, and W.E.B. DuBois (one of the founders of the NAACP). Suspicion on Hoover's part that King was fronting for the Communists was reasonable, given King's associates and the long history of Communist rabble-rousing amongst blacks.

    Communists supported the Civil Rights movement? Good for them!

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    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
    Thirdeye - The CPUSA, like its paymasters in the Kremlin, did not have much use for real civil rights, as demonstrated during 70 years of Bolshevism in the Soviet Union. They supported the American "civil rights" movement because it stirred up racial antipathies in their main enemy, the capitalist U.S., and because the so-called "civil rights" laws were, to the extent they went beyond ending de jure racial segregation enforced by state and local governments, attacks on rights in private property and the freedom of association.

    As evidenced by facts mentioned in the above article, at least some blacks were aware of the way that Communists were attempting to make use of their cause to further Moscow's ends - and tried to curtail that influence.
  28. “Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction. . . . The chain reaction of evil–hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars–must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation.” Martin Luther King

    Those words will live forever!

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    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    "War is the father of all things."
    --Heraclitus

    Those words have lived for 2400 years, and will still be around when MLK is a deservedly forgotten footnote.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    Has the source of this plagiarized piece been identified yet? I prefer Jeff Cooper (from memory): "Victory produces peace, to the extent it is decisive."
  29. @Rehmat
    Well if make you happy, I wouldn't blame all the Jews for the White and Black slavery - but it's proven fact that Jewish elite did play the greatest part in slavery. If you don't believe that - then look at the Black Jews, Christians and Muslims still being treated like DOGS in the so-called "Jewish Israel".

    In 2014, Jewish billionaire Donald Sterling, 81, told his fifty-year younger non-White ex-girlfriend V. Stiviano: “It’s the world! You go to Israel, the Blacks are just treated like dogs.” When Stiniano asked Sterling: “Are the Black Jews less than White Jews?” – Sterling responded: “A hundred percent, fifty, a hundred percent.”

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/04/29/sterling-israel-treats-blacks-like-dogs/

    Its a proven fact that muslims started the slave trade and have participated in its entirety up until the present day . No other group except muslims participate in slavery today . As far as slaving goes , muslims are to be considered a nonpareil .No western nation has participated in slavery since 1898 . However the islamic republic Mauritania continues to have 600,000 individuals living in slavery . http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/03/world/mauritania.slaverys.last.stronghold/

    Islamic state in Iraq and Syria participates in slavery . Specifically targeting ethnic and religious minorities such as yezid and christian women and hold them in sexual slavery . http://time.com/4152127/isis-yezidi-woman-slavery-united-nations/

    In afghanistan young boys are held as sexual slaves for older muslim men . http://www.newsweek.com/confessions-afghan-boy-sex-slave-337381

    In saudi arabia and use they kidnap bengladashi boys to be used as camel jockeys. they boys sleep in a dormitory and are sodomized at night time . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1IwQ7X-zWg

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I don't really see the difference between Arab/Muslim slavery and Jew slavery. And I doubt Muslims started it. Says who, some Jewish historian?

    Muslims have slaves and it is in the open for the Jewish media to show the world. But Jews are not real different. Jews have been slavers for a very long time. Only Jews like to be sneaky about it. Maybe Jews won't physically own you and put you its chains, but Jews like to enslave people economically through money changing and shady deals that leave people in debt.

    You can laugh at the Afgani slave boys, but Jews have the same thing. Look at how Jews behave in Hollywood. You telling me Jews in Hollywood don't have their boy toys?
  30. @nickels
    Perhaps we can agree that it is a Semitic thing, then.

    At any rate, white Christians ended it.

    Yet those who disproportionately were involved have the baseness to push white guilt.

    European gentiles have been pretty slow getting into the blame game because it has never been our culture's way, but now that we are the soil in more than fertile!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5slOsyVIMcw

    I contend that it is an islamic thing rather than a semitic thing . Afghani are not semitic but their islamic culture is practically based on bacha bazi , which means boy play and is pederasty and homosexual child sexual abuse . This practice is entrenched in their culture . It may include to some extent child pornography, sexual slavery, and child prostitution in which prepubescent and adolescent boys are sold to wealthy or powerful men for entertainment and sexual activities.[1] Bacha bazi has existed throughout history,[2] and is currently reported in various parts of Afghanistan . You can read about it here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

    Also of note is the fact that muslim group Boko Haram while not being semitic at all , in fact they are black africans , are muslim and admit their involvement in the slave trade . Boko Haram stage raids on christian villages and kidnap young girls and force them into sex slavery. Read about it here : http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/boko-haram-nigeria-women-describe-being-sex-machines-by-islamist-captors-1500247

    So you can see easily that it is not a semitic thing at all but an islamic thing . Abd means slave in arabic . in colloquial arabic abd is interchangeable for the the world black and black people are almost exclusively referred to as ” abd ” by muslims .

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    • Replies: @Nickels
    It is important to remember that ALL races have kept and been slaves.

    Which is why concepts like 'white guilt' can be viewed as only an attempt to tangle the races and nations in a hopeless Gordian Knot while our pockets are fleeced.

    Utopia had slaves. Those given the mercy of life in defeat and criminals. The state gold store was around the necks of the slaves; has the benefit of making money socially despised....

    MLK pushed guilt. Not cool.
  31. @Art

    "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction. . . . The chain reaction of evil--hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars--must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation." Martin Luther King
     
    Those words will live forever!

    “War is the father of all things.”
    –Heraclitus

    Those words have lived for 2400 years, and will still be around when MLK is a deservedly forgotten footnote.

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    • Replies: @Art

    “War is the father of all things.”
    –Heraclitus

    Those words have lived for 2400 years, and will still be around when MLK is a deservedly forgotten footnote.
     
    Is war the father of knowledge – how about intellectual Christian philosophy, Newtonian physics, Darwinian evolution?

    Or did these things come about in spite of biological tribalism and war?
  32. @Thirdeye
    Communists supported the Civil Rights movement? Good for them!

    Thirdeye – The CPUSA, like its paymasters in the Kremlin, did not have much use for real civil rights, as demonstrated during 70 years of Bolshevism in the Soviet Union. They supported the American “civil rights” movement because it stirred up racial antipathies in their main enemy, the capitalist U.S., and because the so-called “civil rights” laws were, to the extent they went beyond ending de jure racial segregation enforced by state and local governments, attacks on rights in private property and the freedom of association.

    As evidenced by facts mentioned in the above article, at least some blacks were aware of the way that Communists were attempting to make use of their cause to further Moscow’s ends – and tried to curtail that influence.

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    • Replies: @Thirdeye
    Racial antipathies in the US existed long before the Civil Rights movement, you moron. Learn something about Jim Crow laws and lynchings before you make a fool of yourself again. If Moscow was interested in stirring up racial antipathies, they would have been better off supporting the Ku Klux Klan.
  33. @marwan
    I contend that it is an islamic thing rather than a semitic thing . Afghani are not semitic but their islamic culture is practically based on bacha bazi , which means boy play and is pederasty and homosexual child sexual abuse . This practice is entrenched in their culture . It may include to some extent child pornography, sexual slavery, and child prostitution in which prepubescent and adolescent boys are sold to wealthy or powerful men for entertainment and sexual activities.[1] Bacha bazi has existed throughout history,[2] and is currently reported in various parts of Afghanistan . You can read about it here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

    Also of note is the fact that muslim group Boko Haram while not being semitic at all , in fact they are black africans , are muslim and admit their involvement in the slave trade . Boko Haram stage raids on christian villages and kidnap young girls and force them into sex slavery. Read about it here : http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/boko-haram-nigeria-women-describe-being-sex-machines-by-islamist-captors-1500247

    So you can see easily that it is not a semitic thing at all but an islamic thing . Abd means slave in arabic . in colloquial arabic abd is interchangeable for the the world black and black people are almost exclusively referred to as " abd " by muslims .

    It is important to remember that ALL races have kept and been slaves.

    Which is why concepts like ‘white guilt’ can be viewed as only an attempt to tangle the races and nations in a hopeless Gordian Knot while our pockets are fleeced.

    Utopia had slaves. Those given the mercy of life in defeat and criminals. The state gold store was around the necks of the slaves; has the benefit of making money socially despised….

    MLK pushed guilt. Not cool.

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  34. @nickels
    How is pointing out the two ESTABLISHED facts:

    1) Extreme Jewish involvement in slave trade.
    2) Extreme jewish involvement in communism and the civil rights movement, along with pushing white guilt.

    A conspiracy theory?

    Neither of these facts is in question.

    Not that what you say doesn't happen at times, its just that this isn't one of them.

    I'm on a thread over on another site where I'm being jewsplained how Christianity has been some great evil for over 2000 years. Get a big enough group of those with a chip on their shoulder living in your free society and you can expect they will be trying to destroy and undermine your culture on a continual basis. That is a FACT.

    And, as you point out. It certainly does NOT explain everything, but it is often a factor one would be hopelessly naive to neglect.

    Points 1 and 2 are YOUR delusions. Others say they were French. Others say they were African slavers. I couldn’t care less who they were, they were guys doing business and it was hundreds of years ago in any case. Yeah, yeah, these Jews, they’re gonna be the RUIN of us, I tell ya!

    The Blacks and what they’ve done to our cities, including the absolute ruination, likely, of Jewish property and real estate values, not a word for that, not one. WTC, owned by Jews, of COURSE they arranged the conspiracy for 20 Arabs to fly planes into WTC. How on Earth could I have missed Jews organizing a 20/40 billion dollar hit on their own property, killing many Jews at the same time? And they sure gained a lot in exchange, a pathetic piece of crap Liberty Tower, occupied halfway up only from the sheer cowardice of those who come behind.

    No one nuttier than 9/11 Truthers. But notions of Jews and the slave trade and any relevance to today? The conspiracies? Directed by Jews? Laughable. Delusional. Paranoid. Senseless. Stupid. The dreams of those on the outside looking in and not liking the view. I’m not even Jewish, but I am rational and sensible. These notions are sick. They are the notions of those who envy wealth and/or are driven by Nazi/Islamic fervor. It is that simple, LADIES.

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    • Replies: @nickels
    Seriously, if a simple political discussion that involves a reasonable observation about jews and white guilt brings about such vivid imagery to you; well, I'm going to write Kevin MacDonald and tell him he was wrong, Freud was a genius.
    , @Truth
    "How on Earth could I have missed Jews organizing a 20/40 billion dollar hit on their own property, killing many Jews at the same time? And they sure gained a lot in exchange,"

    Funny your should bring that up...

    http://911review.com/motive/insurance.html
    , @Anonymous
    Actually, the Jew who owned the WTC made money off of the attack because he insured the building heavily before the attack, and then got paid twice for 2 separate attacks instead of one. Pretty clever huh?

    Also, most Jews profit from blacks ruining a city because it gives them a chance to but low once once the gentiles engage in white flight.
  35. @Crawfurdmuir
    Thirdeye - The CPUSA, like its paymasters in the Kremlin, did not have much use for real civil rights, as demonstrated during 70 years of Bolshevism in the Soviet Union. They supported the American "civil rights" movement because it stirred up racial antipathies in their main enemy, the capitalist U.S., and because the so-called "civil rights" laws were, to the extent they went beyond ending de jure racial segregation enforced by state and local governments, attacks on rights in private property and the freedom of association.

    As evidenced by facts mentioned in the above article, at least some blacks were aware of the way that Communists were attempting to make use of their cause to further Moscow's ends - and tried to curtail that influence.

    Racial antipathies in the US existed long before the Civil Rights movement, you moron. Learn something about Jim Crow laws and lynchings before you make a fool of yourself again. If Moscow was interested in stirring up racial antipathies, they would have been better off supporting the Ku Klux Klan.

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    "Learn something about Jim Crow laws and lynchings..."

    Jim Crow laws segregated the races. When they were struck down, the races were supposed to be "integrated" - in other words, made equal participants in a whole (integral) society. How's that worked out? It hasn't. The races have self-resegregated. On college campuses, black students demand their own separate dormitories, academic departments, etc. Blacks don't want white police to enter their neighborhoods, etc.

    Tom Sowell has pointed out that black rates of illegitimacy, unemployment, and incarceration were all much lower in 1940 than they are today. Of course, in 1940, Jim Crow laws were in force in about 1/3 of the United States, and there were no anti-discrimination laws in any of the states. Correlation is of course not causation, but it is amazing that by those three metrics, blacks were objectively better off in the days of Jim Crow. Clearly the "civil rights" movement has not brought them much benefit; and the welfare state has made them into a class of sullen, resentful, and frequently criminal, dependents of the state.

    Fewer than 5,000 lynchings took place in the entire United States between 1882 and 1968. That's less than 60 a year for the whole country. There have been 189 homicides to date this year in Baltimore alone; 469 in Chicago alone. Those who express continuing grievance about long-ago lynching seem relatively unconcerned by this modern butchery.

    Charles J. Bonaparte (of the Baltimore Bonapartes), who served as Attorney General of the United States under Theodore Roosevelt, wrote in 1890:

    "Judge Lynch may make mistakes... but if the number of failures of justice in his court could be compared with those in our more regular tribunals, I am not sure that he need fear for the result. I believe that very few innocent men are lynched, and, of those who had not committed the past offense for which they suffer, a still smaller proportion are decent members of society. It is of course an evil that the law should be occasionally enforced by lawless means, but it is, in my opinion, a greater evil that it should be habitually duped and evaded by means formally legal... it [lynching] is not to violate, but to vindicate the law."

    There spoke a contemporary, and very distinguished, witness to the practice. The sense one gets of lynching by reading historical accounts of it is that it was, indeed, the enforcement of law by lawless means, and prevailed in places where formal law enforcement was distant, too thinly spread, or otherwise incapable or unwilling to carry out its responsibilities. I have to wonder what Attorney General Bonaparte would have had to say about the present lawlessness in his home town, and the way to deal with it.
    , @Johann Ricke

    Racial antipathies in the US existed long before the Civil Rights movement, you moron. Learn something about Jim Crow laws and lynchings before you make a fool of yourself again. If Moscow was interested in stirring up racial antipathies, they would have been better off supporting the Ku Klux Klan.
     
    Re lynching, maybe you should follow your own advice:

    The Tuskegee Institute has recorded 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites being lynched between 1882 and 1968, with the annual peak occurring in the 1890s, at a time of economic stress in the South and political suppression
     
    That's about 40 blacks a year. If you asked the average black person what the annual numbers were, they'd probably say thousands.
  36. @Jim Christian
    Points 1 and 2 are YOUR delusions. Others say they were French. Others say they were African slavers. I couldn't care less who they were, they were guys doing business and it was hundreds of years ago in any case. Yeah, yeah, these Jews, they're gonna be the RUIN of us, I tell ya!

    The Blacks and what they've done to our cities, including the absolute ruination, likely, of Jewish property and real estate values, not a word for that, not one. WTC, owned by Jews, of COURSE they arranged the conspiracy for 20 Arabs to fly planes into WTC. How on Earth could I have missed Jews organizing a 20/40 billion dollar hit on their own property, killing many Jews at the same time? And they sure gained a lot in exchange, a pathetic piece of crap Liberty Tower, occupied halfway up only from the sheer cowardice of those who come behind.

    No one nuttier than 9/11 Truthers. But notions of Jews and the slave trade and any relevance to today? The conspiracies? Directed by Jews? Laughable. Delusional. Paranoid. Senseless. Stupid. The dreams of those on the outside looking in and not liking the view. I'm not even Jewish, but I am rational and sensible. These notions are sick. They are the notions of those who envy wealth and/or are driven by Nazi/Islamic fervor. It is that simple, LADIES.

    Seriously, if a simple political discussion that involves a reasonable observation about jews and white guilt brings about such vivid imagery to you; well, I’m going to write Kevin MacDonald and tell him he was wrong, Freud was a genius.

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    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    Well, right back at you. No white guilt here. And if simple political discussions always come back to the Jews are at fault in every scenario, you might want to examine your own imagery. Go pound White guilt, it doesn't sell here. Freud was wrong on everything in the end anyway. It isn't all about your Mom, Nickels.
  37. @Intelligent Dasein
    "War is the father of all things."
    --Heraclitus

    Those words have lived for 2400 years, and will still be around when MLK is a deservedly forgotten footnote.

    “War is the father of all things.”
    –Heraclitus

    Those words have lived for 2400 years, and will still be around when MLK is a deservedly forgotten footnote.

    Is war the father of knowledge – how about intellectual Christian philosophy, Newtonian physics, Darwinian evolution?

    Or did these things come about in spite of biological tribalism and war?

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    • Replies: @Olorin
    The fact that you use the term "Darwinian evolution" reveals you don't have the chops for this conversation. Begone.
  38. @nickels
    Seriously, if a simple political discussion that involves a reasonable observation about jews and white guilt brings about such vivid imagery to you; well, I'm going to write Kevin MacDonald and tell him he was wrong, Freud was a genius.

    Well, right back at you. No white guilt here. And if simple political discussions always come back to the Jews are at fault in every scenario, you might want to examine your own imagery. Go pound White guilt, it doesn’t sell here. Freud was wrong on everything in the end anyway. It isn’t all about your Mom, Nickels.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Funny how Jews are always so sensitive when others keep bringing up Jewish involvement in things, yet Jews always whine about antisemitism. All day every day.

    Sorry for noticing things.
  39. @Jim Christian
    Sure, conspiracy theorists litter the landscape like a persistent rash. 9/11 Truthers. Birthers (although Obama's situation is flaky), name a situation, there are folks that believe otherwise. There are folks here that believe everything from Sandy Spring on out to San Bernardino, Paris, it's all Israel's fault, or they were plots, wake up calls, false flags. They can't accept that shit happens, to them everything is always a plot. Problem with conspiracies, there are always whistle blowers. People with families, lovers, wives, children, friends, people talk, the truth always comes out. Stuff just happens. Ya have to let it go, live life.

    It isn't the Jews, it isn't the government, although government has a way of capitalizing on the bad things that happen, agency-building and the like. Do something about THAT. Mostly, conspiracy theorists are the folks on the outside looking in, missing out on the wealth, the excitement, being on the inside is heady stuff and the folks on the outside that want in and are barred for whatever reason get pissed. Hence, to them, the Jews, those on the inside, those that profit, they must be responsible for it all. Nonsense.

    Here comes the shit storm...

    I think you might want to see a doctor about that persistent rash problem. I especially appreciated that the final sentence of your post was one word only, Nonsense. The one word of truth in all of what you wrote and I couldn’t have underlined or better placed it myself. Kudos.

    As a self-confessed coincidence theorist have you looked into the actual odds of many verifiable coincidences at seemingly disparate events that some are calling false flags? Did you ever hear about the Reichstag Fire, Tonkin Gulf? No?

    “The truth always comes out” does it? Not in your world. In your world even Newton’s Laws become Newton’s Theories in order for your logic to agree with what you posted. Quite a few people have accepted what are generally regarded as the laws of physics and so the nonsense that you coincidence theorists post re the 911 Truth (New OPEN investigation) Seekers simply invites ridicule or pity.

    No, everything is not a plot. What a silly statement. Some crimes do occur. Some monstrous crimes occur. Out of respect for the dead, their families, the emergency workers, all of the victims including the much reamed American taxpayer don’t they deserve an open, honest investigation since the so-called investigation was provably a treasonous fraud? Don’t you love America enough to agree that it is much warranted?

    Shit happens yes, and stupid is as stupid does.

    I’d very much like you to explain what you mean by the “heady stuff” that you referred to and is it by any chance related to your rash?

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    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    The truth? We aren't invited to know the truth and they figure if we KNEW the truth of their incompetence, we might invite them to find other employment. Incompetence does not a good conspiracy theory make.

    But until God extends to me the wisdom that he imbues you with Ultimate Truth, I'll consider your story to be simple, uninformed opinion, because fact is, and this is FACT, we're on the outside, they are on the inside and you and I can only guess their motives. It isn't always Jews.

    , @guest
    The Reichstag fire was not a "false flag" but a spontaneous event that the Nazis appropriated and misused for their own ends.
  40. @Thirdeye
    Racial antipathies in the US existed long before the Civil Rights movement, you moron. Learn something about Jim Crow laws and lynchings before you make a fool of yourself again. If Moscow was interested in stirring up racial antipathies, they would have been better off supporting the Ku Klux Klan.

    “Learn something about Jim Crow laws and lynchings…”

    Jim Crow laws segregated the races. When they were struck down, the races were supposed to be “integrated” – in other words, made equal participants in a whole (integral) society. How’s that worked out? It hasn’t. The races have self-resegregated. On college campuses, black students demand their own separate dormitories, academic departments, etc. Blacks don’t want white police to enter their neighborhoods, etc.

    Tom Sowell has pointed out that black rates of illegitimacy, unemployment, and incarceration were all much lower in 1940 than they are today. Of course, in 1940, Jim Crow laws were in force in about 1/3 of the United States, and there were no anti-discrimination laws in any of the states. Correlation is of course not causation, but it is amazing that by those three metrics, blacks were objectively better off in the days of Jim Crow. Clearly the “civil rights” movement has not brought them much benefit; and the welfare state has made them into a class of sullen, resentful, and frequently criminal, dependents of the state.

    Fewer than 5,000 lynchings took place in the entire United States between 1882 and 1968. That’s less than 60 a year for the whole country. There have been 189 homicides to date this year in Baltimore alone; 469 in Chicago alone. Those who express continuing grievance about long-ago lynching seem relatively unconcerned by this modern butchery.

    Charles J. Bonaparte (of the Baltimore Bonapartes), who served as Attorney General of the United States under Theodore Roosevelt, wrote in 1890:

    “Judge Lynch may make mistakes… but if the number of failures of justice in his court could be compared with those in our more regular tribunals, I am not sure that he need fear for the result. I believe that very few innocent men are lynched, and, of those who had not committed the past offense for which they suffer, a still smaller proportion are decent members of society. It is of course an evil that the law should be occasionally enforced by lawless means, but it is, in my opinion, a greater evil that it should be habitually duped and evaded by means formally legal… it [lynching] is not to violate, but to vindicate the law.”

    There spoke a contemporary, and very distinguished, witness to the practice. The sense one gets of lynching by reading historical accounts of it is that it was, indeed, the enforcement of law by lawless means, and prevailed in places where formal law enforcement was distant, too thinly spread, or otherwise incapable or unwilling to carry out its responsibilities. I have to wonder what Attorney General Bonaparte would have had to say about the present lawlessness in his home town, and the way to deal with it.

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    • Replies: @Thirdeye
    Oh, sure, things were so much better for blacks in the days of Jim Crow. We know from a completely reliable, objective source that lynchings weren't about race, they only happened to bad people. Just like contemporary authoritative sources were sure that Jews weren't being persecuted in Nazi Germany. And what's a piddling 58 or so lynchings per year in the south, presuming all the lynchings were reported? Yeah, those darkies were happy living in dirt-floored shacks, being forbidden from using public facilities, being crowded into segregated transportation.... They were so thankful that the white folks would come through and eliminate the bad element in their communities, knowing that if they just knew their place the lynchings would never happen to them. After all, they wanted to lynch their bad element but they didn't know how to do it. They needed those smart white crackers to do it for them. They even offered the white lynch mobs fried chicken, grits, and watermelon in gratitude. Then those gosh-durn Commie libruls told them that what was happening was wrong and ruined everything.

    Of course there was lower unemployment among blacks in 1940 than today. It was the beginning of the WWII armament boom. Unemployment was lower across the whole society. Of course, when those blacks arrived at those industrial jobs, there were some surly white workers ready to fight blacks at the drop of a hat. Incarceration and out-of-wedlock birth rates were also lower across the whole society. Sowell wouldn't be cherry picking his metrics, would he?
  41. In my preceding comment, fourth paragraph, please strike “to date this year” and replace with “last year.”

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  42. @Jim Christian
    Points 1 and 2 are YOUR delusions. Others say they were French. Others say they were African slavers. I couldn't care less who they were, they were guys doing business and it was hundreds of years ago in any case. Yeah, yeah, these Jews, they're gonna be the RUIN of us, I tell ya!

    The Blacks and what they've done to our cities, including the absolute ruination, likely, of Jewish property and real estate values, not a word for that, not one. WTC, owned by Jews, of COURSE they arranged the conspiracy for 20 Arabs to fly planes into WTC. How on Earth could I have missed Jews organizing a 20/40 billion dollar hit on their own property, killing many Jews at the same time? And they sure gained a lot in exchange, a pathetic piece of crap Liberty Tower, occupied halfway up only from the sheer cowardice of those who come behind.

    No one nuttier than 9/11 Truthers. But notions of Jews and the slave trade and any relevance to today? The conspiracies? Directed by Jews? Laughable. Delusional. Paranoid. Senseless. Stupid. The dreams of those on the outside looking in and not liking the view. I'm not even Jewish, but I am rational and sensible. These notions are sick. They are the notions of those who envy wealth and/or are driven by Nazi/Islamic fervor. It is that simple, LADIES.

    “How on Earth could I have missed Jews organizing a 20/40 billion dollar hit on their own property, killing many Jews at the same time? And they sure gained a lot in exchange,”

    Funny your should bring that up…

    http://911review.com/motive/insurance.html

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    And for proof, he sends me to a 9/11 liar site. Sorry for noticing.
  43. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @marwan
    Its a proven fact that muslims started the slave trade and have participated in its entirety up until the present day . No other group except muslims participate in slavery today . As far as slaving goes , muslims are to be considered a nonpareil .No western nation has participated in slavery since 1898 . However the islamic republic Mauritania continues to have 600,000 individuals living in slavery . http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/03/world/mauritania.slaverys.last.stronghold/

    Islamic state in Iraq and Syria participates in slavery . Specifically targeting ethnic and religious minorities such as yezid and christian women and hold them in sexual slavery . http://time.com/4152127/isis-yezidi-woman-slavery-united-nations/

    In afghanistan young boys are held as sexual slaves for older muslim men . http://www.newsweek.com/confessions-afghan-boy-sex-slave-337381

    In saudi arabia and use they kidnap bengladashi boys to be used as camel jockeys. they boys sleep in a dormitory and are sodomized at night time . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1IwQ7X-zWg

    I don’t really see the difference between Arab/Muslim slavery and Jew slavery. And I doubt Muslims started it. Says who, some Jewish historian?

    Muslims have slaves and it is in the open for the Jewish media to show the world. But Jews are not real different. Jews have been slavers for a very long time. Only Jews like to be sneaky about it. Maybe Jews won’t physically own you and put you its chains, but Jews like to enslave people economically through money changing and shady deals that leave people in debt.

    You can laugh at the Afgani slave boys, but Jews have the same thing. Look at how Jews behave in Hollywood. You telling me Jews in Hollywood don’t have their boy toys?

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    • Replies: @marwan
    I was talking about real slavery not metaphorical slavery . Real slavery that is taking place today is 100% muslim . Examples include the 600,000 real slaves in the islamic republic of mauritania , the sex slaves of the islamic state , the slave boy sex toys of the afghanis , the slavery perpetuated by the islamic republic of sudan and boko haram in nigeria . Those are examples of real slavery.

    If we want to talk metaphorical slavery in the modern day then you yourself are a slaver. The smartphone or computer you use to voice your jealousy and obsession with jews is made by slave labor in china .
  44. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jim Christian
    Points 1 and 2 are YOUR delusions. Others say they were French. Others say they were African slavers. I couldn't care less who they were, they were guys doing business and it was hundreds of years ago in any case. Yeah, yeah, these Jews, they're gonna be the RUIN of us, I tell ya!

    The Blacks and what they've done to our cities, including the absolute ruination, likely, of Jewish property and real estate values, not a word for that, not one. WTC, owned by Jews, of COURSE they arranged the conspiracy for 20 Arabs to fly planes into WTC. How on Earth could I have missed Jews organizing a 20/40 billion dollar hit on their own property, killing many Jews at the same time? And they sure gained a lot in exchange, a pathetic piece of crap Liberty Tower, occupied halfway up only from the sheer cowardice of those who come behind.

    No one nuttier than 9/11 Truthers. But notions of Jews and the slave trade and any relevance to today? The conspiracies? Directed by Jews? Laughable. Delusional. Paranoid. Senseless. Stupid. The dreams of those on the outside looking in and not liking the view. I'm not even Jewish, but I am rational and sensible. These notions are sick. They are the notions of those who envy wealth and/or are driven by Nazi/Islamic fervor. It is that simple, LADIES.

    Actually, the Jew who owned the WTC made money off of the attack because he insured the building heavily before the attack, and then got paid twice for 2 separate attacks instead of one. Pretty clever huh?

    Also, most Jews profit from blacks ruining a city because it gives them a chance to but low once once the gentiles engage in white flight.

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    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    If those Geee-Yeeews that knocked down WTC had such power, they would have replaced the Twins with far better than what stood before rather than that putrid, pussified monument to-terrorist-Dindu tower and wailing wall that now occupies the most valuable piece of land on the planet.

    Conspiracy-theory fail.
  45. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jim Christian
    Well, right back at you. No white guilt here. And if simple political discussions always come back to the Jews are at fault in every scenario, you might want to examine your own imagery. Go pound White guilt, it doesn't sell here. Freud was wrong on everything in the end anyway. It isn't all about your Mom, Nickels.

    Funny how Jews are always so sensitive when others keep bringing up Jewish involvement in things, yet Jews always whine about antisemitism. All day every day.

    Sorry for noticing things.

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    Back atcha, they notice your pointless, ungrounded-in-reality antisemitism. Sorry for noticing, Junior.
  46. @Art

    "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction. . . . The chain reaction of evil--hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars--must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation." Martin Luther King
     
    Those words will live forever!

    Has the source of this plagiarized piece been identified yet? I prefer Jeff Cooper (from memory): “Victory produces peace, to the extent it is decisive.”

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  47. @Anonymous
    Funny how Jews are always so sensitive when others keep bringing up Jewish involvement in things, yet Jews always whine about antisemitism. All day every day.

    Sorry for noticing things.

    Back atcha, they notice your pointless, ungrounded-in-reality antisemitism. Sorry for noticing, Junior.

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  48. @Anonymous
    I don't really see the difference between Arab/Muslim slavery and Jew slavery. And I doubt Muslims started it. Says who, some Jewish historian?

    Muslims have slaves and it is in the open for the Jewish media to show the world. But Jews are not real different. Jews have been slavers for a very long time. Only Jews like to be sneaky about it. Maybe Jews won't physically own you and put you its chains, but Jews like to enslave people economically through money changing and shady deals that leave people in debt.

    You can laugh at the Afgani slave boys, but Jews have the same thing. Look at how Jews behave in Hollywood. You telling me Jews in Hollywood don't have their boy toys?

    I was talking about real slavery not metaphorical slavery . Real slavery that is taking place today is 100% muslim . Examples include the 600,000 real slaves in the islamic republic of mauritania , the sex slaves of the islamic state , the slave boy sex toys of the afghanis , the slavery perpetuated by the islamic republic of sudan and boko haram in nigeria . Those are examples of real slavery.

    If we want to talk metaphorical slavery in the modern day then you yourself are a slaver. The smartphone or computer you use to voice your jealousy and obsession with jews is made by slave labor in china .

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Lol. The slavery Jews engage in is in fact real. Muslims don't run the Fed or Walstreet or engage in regime change like Jews do. All the ruined lives in Syria and Iraq from Zionist Jews and you want to call it metaphorical?

    I am not impressed with your fake concern. If you were really concerned with Christian sex slaves, your kind wouldn't be bankrolling the very muslims who are doing the slavery. Syrian and Iranian muslims aren't enslaving Christian women, yet these are the very countries Isreal wants to destroy. Coincidence? I think not. Like I said, Jews are very clever.
  49. @Anonymous
    Actually, the Jew who owned the WTC made money off of the attack because he insured the building heavily before the attack, and then got paid twice for 2 separate attacks instead of one. Pretty clever huh?

    Also, most Jews profit from blacks ruining a city because it gives them a chance to but low once once the gentiles engage in white flight.

    If those Geee-Yeeews that knocked down WTC had such power, they would have replaced the Twins with far better than what stood before rather than that putrid, pussified monument to-terrorist-Dindu tower and wailing wall that now occupies the most valuable piece of land on the planet.

    Conspiracy-theory fail.

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  50. @Truth
    "How on Earth could I have missed Jews organizing a 20/40 billion dollar hit on their own property, killing many Jews at the same time? And they sure gained a lot in exchange,"

    Funny your should bring that up...

    http://911review.com/motive/insurance.html

    And for proof, he sends me to a 9/11 liar site. Sorry for noticing.

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  51. @NoseytheDuke
    I think you might want to see a doctor about that persistent rash problem. I especially appreciated that the final sentence of your post was one word only, Nonsense. The one word of truth in all of what you wrote and I couldn't have underlined or better placed it myself. Kudos.

    As a self-confessed coincidence theorist have you looked into the actual odds of many verifiable coincidences at seemingly disparate events that some are calling false flags? Did you ever hear about the Reichstag Fire, Tonkin Gulf? No?

    "The truth always comes out" does it? Not in your world. In your world even Newton's Laws become Newton's Theories in order for your logic to agree with what you posted. Quite a few people have accepted what are generally regarded as the laws of physics and so the nonsense that you coincidence theorists post re the 911 Truth (New OPEN investigation) Seekers simply invites ridicule or pity.

    No, everything is not a plot. What a silly statement. Some crimes do occur. Some monstrous crimes occur. Out of respect for the dead, their families, the emergency workers, all of the victims including the much reamed American taxpayer don't they deserve an open, honest investigation since the so-called investigation was provably a treasonous fraud? Don't you love America enough to agree that it is much warranted?

    Shit happens yes, and stupid is as stupid does.

    I'd very much like you to explain what you mean by the "heady stuff" that you referred to and is it by any chance related to your rash?

    The truth? We aren’t invited to know the truth and they figure if we KNEW the truth of their incompetence, we might invite them to find other employment. Incompetence does not a good conspiracy theory make.

    But until God extends to me the wisdom that he imbues you with Ultimate Truth, I’ll consider your story to be simple, uninformed opinion, because fact is, and this is FACT, we’re on the outside, they are on the inside and you and I can only guess their motives. It isn’t always Jews.

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    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    You are delusional. Nowhere in any of my posts have I ever said it is always the Jews. I said there are inexplicable coincidences and irrational explanations regarding massive crimes that should be openly investigated to determine the truth and offenders held to account.

    Your answer is weak. How's the rash?
  52. Martin L. King – The Bottom Line

    The bottom Line is that ML King, John and Robert Kennedy, Malcolm X, Fred Hampton, and John Lennon, were all assassinated by the US Government.

    The Bottom Line,is that ML King was a strong advocate not only for Civil rights, but in opposition to the American War against Vietnam. He linked the issues of the struggles for Liberty, Economic Justice, and Peace, declaring that you could not achieve one, without the others.

    Whether or not he was a ‘perfect’ human being is not relevant to evaluating King, any more than J F Kennedy. They were popular political leaders who who were murdered by the not actually -so deep American Government.

    American and Zionist governments supported the Apartheid Regime in South Africa, the Military Dictatorships in Greece, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, and a dozen other nations. The death toll from American butchery in Vietnam was 2 million (US Senate figure), and 1 million in Indonesia – 1965, (Phoenix Program-Indonesia & Vietnam). Google “Indonesian Massacres-1965″ if you dare. “NY Times articles admit to the butchery in Indonesia, while covering up the culprit.

    Next came the US-Zionist massacres of 100,000 Native Guatemalans 1960-1970s. More recently, Libya, Ukraine, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, Palestine, Yugoslavia, and a dozen other nations, have felt the Boot.

    M L King left a legacy of moral principle and courage, as did the other martyrs.

    We must restore our Republic so that we may set things right!

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    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    Nice thought. MLK's murder didn't make much sense from a deep-state sense, to me anyway, because MLK was a pacification to the ghettos and perhaps a bit of a moderating force against the "long hot summers" of riots in the cities Blacks chased Whites out of. Jack and Bob Kennedy's assassinations were the product of their opposition to bullshit wars. No President since has ever said no to a bullshit war since. I've often wondered if, after the festivities of every inauguration, every President since hasn't been taken for a tour of Arlington Cemetery below Custis-Lee Mansion where Jack's flame and Bobby's cross mark their graves.

    And there, the new President is shown that there is indeed plenty of space for one more martyred President, assassinated in his prime by a lone nut capable of miraculous feats of marksmanship, even if it has before a man gets to be President, to be in a crowded room with lots of witnesses incapable of seeing the truth of the matter, thirty bullets fired from an eight-shot weapon. And all for saying "No" to a bullshit war. And so, ever since, no one ever has.

    But then, there are the Jews. The Jews, the Jews, always the Jews.

  53. @Durruti
    Martin L. King - The Bottom Line

    The bottom Line is that ML King, John and Robert Kennedy, Malcolm X, Fred Hampton, and John Lennon, were all assassinated by the US Government.

    The Bottom Line,is that ML King was a strong advocate not only for Civil rights, but in opposition to the American War against Vietnam. He linked the issues of the struggles for Liberty, Economic Justice, and Peace, declaring that you could not achieve one, without the others.

    Whether or not he was a 'perfect' human being is not relevant to evaluating King, any more than J F Kennedy. They were popular political leaders who who were murdered by the not actually -so deep American Government.

    American and Zionist governments supported the Apartheid Regime in South Africa, the Military Dictatorships in Greece, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, and a dozen other nations. The death toll from American butchery in Vietnam was 2 million (US Senate figure), and 1 million in Indonesia - 1965, (Phoenix Program-Indonesia & Vietnam). Google "Indonesian Massacres-1965" if you dare. "NY Times articles admit to the butchery in Indonesia, while covering up the culprit.

    Next came the US-Zionist massacres of 100,000 Native Guatemalans 1960-1970s. More recently, Libya, Ukraine, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, Palestine, Yugoslavia, and a dozen other nations, have felt the Boot.

    M L King left a legacy of moral principle and courage, as did the other martyrs.

    We must restore our Republic so that we may set things right!

    Nice thought. MLK’s murder didn’t make much sense from a deep-state sense, to me anyway, because MLK was a pacification to the ghettos and perhaps a bit of a moderating force against the “long hot summers” of riots in the cities Blacks chased Whites out of. Jack and Bob Kennedy’s assassinations were the product of their opposition to bullshit wars. No President since has ever said no to a bullshit war since. I’ve often wondered if, after the festivities of every inauguration, every President since hasn’t been taken for a tour of Arlington Cemetery below Custis-Lee Mansion where Jack’s flame and Bobby’s cross mark their graves.

    And there, the new President is shown that there is indeed plenty of space for one more martyred President, assassinated in his prime by a lone nut capable of miraculous feats of marksmanship, even if it has before a man gets to be President, to be in a crowded room with lots of witnesses incapable of seeing the truth of the matter, thirty bullets fired from an eight-shot weapon. And all for saying “No” to a bullshit war. And so, ever since, no one ever has.

    But then, there are the Jews. The Jews, the Jews, always the Jews.

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  54. @Jim Christian
    The truth? We aren't invited to know the truth and they figure if we KNEW the truth of their incompetence, we might invite them to find other employment. Incompetence does not a good conspiracy theory make.

    But until God extends to me the wisdom that he imbues you with Ultimate Truth, I'll consider your story to be simple, uninformed opinion, because fact is, and this is FACT, we're on the outside, they are on the inside and you and I can only guess their motives. It isn't always Jews.

    You are delusional. Nowhere in any of my posts have I ever said it is always the Jews. I said there are inexplicable coincidences and irrational explanations regarding massive crimes that should be openly investigated to determine the truth and offenders held to account.

    Your answer is weak. How’s the rash?

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  55. Not you, per se. Many, many others. Muslim Dindu in caves. Professional Jew haters, there are many here. Please, you know who they are. MUST I name names?

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    @marwan
    I was talking about real slavery not metaphorical slavery . Real slavery that is taking place today is 100% muslim . Examples include the 600,000 real slaves in the islamic republic of mauritania , the sex slaves of the islamic state , the slave boy sex toys of the afghanis , the slavery perpetuated by the islamic republic of sudan and boko haram in nigeria . Those are examples of real slavery.

    If we want to talk metaphorical slavery in the modern day then you yourself are a slaver. The smartphone or computer you use to voice your jealousy and obsession with jews is made by slave labor in china .

    Lol. The slavery Jews engage in is in fact real. Muslims don’t run the Fed or Walstreet or engage in regime change like Jews do. All the ruined lives in Syria and Iraq from Zionist Jews and you want to call it metaphorical?

    I am not impressed with your fake concern. If you were really concerned with Christian sex slaves, your kind wouldn’t be bankrolling the very muslims who are doing the slavery. Syrian and Iranian muslims aren’t enslaving Christian women, yet these are the very countries Isreal wants to destroy. Coincidence? I think not. Like I said, Jews are very clever.

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    Yeah, yeah, dem dar Geee-Yeeews are clever folk. The world, 7.5 billion, enslaved by 50 million Geeeee-Yeeews. What ARE you, KKK? Syrians aren't enslaving Christians, they're raping them and beheading them, wiping them out. Thinking it over, you're actually Islam-at-Large. If you aren't, you're their mouthpiece. KKK would have better arguments by far.
    , @marwan
    sickening how you whitewash islamic slavery . btw all the sex slaving of christian girls in iraq and syria is done by muslims , shia or sunni . btw since you are a persiaphile , iran executed 6,000 people for the crime of homosexuality since 1979. they also hang bahai school teachers from cranes in tehran for public execution, for the crime of teaching sunday school. search mona mahmudnizad .
  57. @Anonymous
    Lol. The slavery Jews engage in is in fact real. Muslims don't run the Fed or Walstreet or engage in regime change like Jews do. All the ruined lives in Syria and Iraq from Zionist Jews and you want to call it metaphorical?

    I am not impressed with your fake concern. If you were really concerned with Christian sex slaves, your kind wouldn't be bankrolling the very muslims who are doing the slavery. Syrian and Iranian muslims aren't enslaving Christian women, yet these are the very countries Isreal wants to destroy. Coincidence? I think not. Like I said, Jews are very clever.

    Yeah, yeah, dem dar Geee-Yeeews are clever folk. The world, 7.5 billion, enslaved by 50 million Geeeee-Yeeews. What ARE you, KKK? Syrians aren’t enslaving Christians, they’re raping them and beheading them, wiping them out. Thinking it over, you’re actually Islam-at-Large. If you aren’t, you’re their mouthpiece. KKK would have better arguments by far.

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    The only Syrians raping Christians are the ones supported by Saudi Arabia, Isreal, and the US.

    So enough with your phony concern about Christian women. If you were truly sincere you would protest your Zionist leaders for the crimes they commit.
  58. @Anonymous
    Lol. The slavery Jews engage in is in fact real. Muslims don't run the Fed or Walstreet or engage in regime change like Jews do. All the ruined lives in Syria and Iraq from Zionist Jews and you want to call it metaphorical?

    I am not impressed with your fake concern. If you were really concerned with Christian sex slaves, your kind wouldn't be bankrolling the very muslims who are doing the slavery. Syrian and Iranian muslims aren't enslaving Christian women, yet these are the very countries Isreal wants to destroy. Coincidence? I think not. Like I said, Jews are very clever.

    sickening how you whitewash islamic slavery . btw all the sex slaving of christian girls in iraq and syria is done by muslims , shia or sunni . btw since you are a persiaphile , iran executed 6,000 people for the crime of homosexuality since 1979. they also hang bahai school teachers from cranes in tehran for public execution, for the crime of teaching sunday school. search mona mahmudnizad .

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    Oh, and they take prisoners from the ranks of foreign visiting journalists, teachers and Christian ministers, bargaining chips, mostly, although why anyone visits a festering shithole like Iran is beyond me, especially Christians that go there. Any that are allowed to live there are surely caged and isolated, but held up as evidence of how progressive Iran is. Marwan, there are several that attempt to cover Islam/Muslim malfeasance and misbehavior and are verbally vicious and profane in their defense of their beloved religion of peace. Everything they cause of course is the fault of Jews. Fuggem. Muslims are just the same bad brand as American and African Dindu. Low-IQ, low performance, jealous, violent and worthless culture. If they didn't have our oil under their feet, who would pay them any attention?

    Good take, Marwan, but all you'll hear from them in reply is the sound of crickets and the hatred of Jews.
  59. Priss Factor [AKA "Dominique Francon Society"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Victim culture has led to something like an aristocracy.

    Aristocrats were BORN to favored status. Just on the basis of blood lineage, they were deemed superior to the rabble and deserving of privilege and power. Even if they didn’t do anything positive, they were part of a superior breed. They could be vain, wasteful, indulgent, abusive, and vile. But no matter how they acted, they had superior status over everyone else because of their blood lineage.

    Well, that kind of aristocracy is long gone.

    But we have the same logic in what might called the AGGRIEVE-TOCRACY or Aggrievtocracy. Just because some of your ancestors were victimized or oppressed for a certain period many generations ago, you get to act morally superior toward everyone else.
    Even if you’re a lout, punk, moron, thug, bum, or total idiot, YOU ARE SPECIAL simply by the virtue of having been born with the noble blood of past ‘aggrievement’
    So never mind that you’re infantile, stupid, puerile, irresponsible, thuggish, criminal, and/or a menace to society. You can claim superiority simply on the basis that you carry the blood of past suffering..

    Long long ago, the warrior class of noblemen fought to defend their domain and the people in it. Since they fought bravely and made sacrifices, a system developed whereupon their descendants were to inherit noble privilege forever and ever. And this privilege didn’t just pass onto brave and honorable children but to craven and cowardly children as well. Just because the first breed of warriors fought bravely, all their descendants for all time were supposed to be consecrated with noble blood.

    Likewise, just because a certain people were oppressed in the past, the blood of all their descendants are supposed to be consecrated forever with the holiness of noble suffering. So, it doesn’t matter if the descendants no longer suffer and, if anything, do wrong onto others with bad behavior, trashiness, obscenity, criminality, and rampages.

    In some ways, the logic of aggrievtocracy is worse than that of the aristocracy.
    While it is true that the descendants of aristocrats inherited privilege simply by being born with noble blood, they also inherited the responsibilities of warrior-hood and good governance. Even though some aristocratic children turned out to be loutish brats, many did honor their responsibilities, and many gave their lives in war to defend the domain. And some lived up to the principle of noblesse oblige. So, aristocrats were born with privilege and obligations.

    In contrast, the aggrievtocracy is about being with the privilege of complaint and moral upmanship without any obligation to one’s fellow man or woman whatsoever.

    A nobleman or aristocrat was born superior but also burdened with responsibilities to demonstrate his superiority in battle and governance.
    In contrast, the aggrievtocrat can feel better than everyone else without any sense of obligation on his part to fix his own problems or care about other people.

    In America, not only blacks with slave ancestry get to play the aggrievtocrat but even black African immigrants whose ancestors captured and sold slaves to whites. Obama hasn’t any black American slave blood — his father’s side is Kenyan — , but he talks like any other black aggrievtocrat.

    White Liberals may think they are doing a favor to blacks by upholding this aggrievtocratic principle, but it has only created more problems in the black community, usually in the form of black-on-black violence. Since every black American feels totally justified on the basis of past history, he or she is incapable of any self-reflection or moral self-examination. Every black person, man and woman, thinks he or she is totally right all the time on the basis of his or her noble aggrievtocratic blood. So, naturally, there is a lot of black-on-black violence. Every black person, on the basis of his or her noble-victim-blood, thinks he or she is never ever wrong.
    To be sure, blacks are naturally wilder and more aggressive, but the culture of aggrievtocracy makes them much worse.

    All this BLM nonsense is the product of the aggrievetocratic mindset. In actual fact, most blacks are killed by other blacks. And there are tons of black-on-white violence, as well as black-on-brown, black-on-yellow, black-on-Arab violence.
    But blacks are completely blind to their own foulness because they think their blood makes them naturally noble and morally superior.
    Indeed, why make an effort to be good when you are said to be born with the superior blood of goodness?

    Indeed, a black guy can become a thug rapper and sing awful garbage, but the Liberal media will treat him like a poet and prophet spouting the most amazing sermon.
    Or a total idiot like Tahenesi Coates can babble on and on something that makes little sense, but the Liberal community will shower him with praise and treat him like a genius and prophet because he was born with black blood, or the noble blood of black victimhood.

    The culture of aggrievtocracy + naturally disposition of blacks toward aggression + lower IQ among American blacks(though not necessarily among Nigerian blacks) = worsening racial problems with the black underclass.

    PS: Aggrievtocracy is even crazier among Jews. At least, many blacks can still make the case that they are faced with economic problems and hardships, even if much of it is caused by themselves.

    In contrast, Jews are, bar none, the most powerful and privileged people on earth. And yet, all Jews everywhere think they are holy and noble simply because certain populations of European Jews were killed in huge numbers during WWII.
    So, even the likes of Jordan Befort and Anthony Wiener think they have some right to feel superior to the rest of us.

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    Good stuff in this thread.

    Evangelical Zionism is a big cause of certain superiority complexes you mention.
  60. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jim Christian
    Yeah, yeah, dem dar Geee-Yeeews are clever folk. The world, 7.5 billion, enslaved by 50 million Geeeee-Yeeews. What ARE you, KKK? Syrians aren't enslaving Christians, they're raping them and beheading them, wiping them out. Thinking it over, you're actually Islam-at-Large. If you aren't, you're their mouthpiece. KKK would have better arguments by far.

    The only Syrians raping Christians are the ones supported by Saudi Arabia, Isreal, and the US.

    So enough with your phony concern about Christian women. If you were truly sincere you would protest your Zionist leaders for the crimes they commit.

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    Hey anonymous , in WN circles we chastise blacks for not taking responsibility for their actions . Although Im NO FAN of jews , we must excercize the same standard we apply to blacks evenly to everyone else , lest we risk not being taken seriously . In that vein , the muslim rapists in Syria and Iraq are solely responsible for the rapes they commit .
  61. @Priss Factor
    Victim culture has led to something like an aristocracy.

    Aristocrats were BORN to favored status. Just on the basis of blood lineage, they were deemed superior to the rabble and deserving of privilege and power. Even if they didn't do anything positive, they were part of a superior breed. They could be vain, wasteful, indulgent, abusive, and vile. But no matter how they acted, they had superior status over everyone else because of their blood lineage.

    Well, that kind of aristocracy is long gone.

    But we have the same logic in what might called the AGGRIEVE-TOCRACY or Aggrievtocracy. Just because some of your ancestors were victimized or oppressed for a certain period many generations ago, you get to act morally superior toward everyone else.
    Even if you're a lout, punk, moron, thug, bum, or total idiot, YOU ARE SPECIAL simply by the virtue of having been born with the noble blood of past 'aggrievement'
    So never mind that you're infantile, stupid, puerile, irresponsible, thuggish, criminal, and/or a menace to society. You can claim superiority simply on the basis that you carry the blood of past suffering..

    Long long ago, the warrior class of noblemen fought to defend their domain and the people in it. Since they fought bravely and made sacrifices, a system developed whereupon their descendants were to inherit noble privilege forever and ever. And this privilege didn't just pass onto brave and honorable children but to craven and cowardly children as well. Just because the first breed of warriors fought bravely, all their descendants for all time were supposed to be consecrated with noble blood.

    Likewise, just because a certain people were oppressed in the past, the blood of all their descendants are supposed to be consecrated forever with the holiness of noble suffering. So, it doesn't matter if the descendants no longer suffer and, if anything, do wrong onto others with bad behavior, trashiness, obscenity, criminality, and rampages.

    In some ways, the logic of aggrievtocracy is worse than that of the aristocracy.
    While it is true that the descendants of aristocrats inherited privilege simply by being born with noble blood, they also inherited the responsibilities of warrior-hood and good governance. Even though some aristocratic children turned out to be loutish brats, many did honor their responsibilities, and many gave their lives in war to defend the domain. And some lived up to the principle of noblesse oblige. So, aristocrats were born with privilege and obligations.

    In contrast, the aggrievtocracy is about being with the privilege of complaint and moral upmanship without any obligation to one's fellow man or woman whatsoever.

    A nobleman or aristocrat was born superior but also burdened with responsibilities to demonstrate his superiority in battle and governance.
    In contrast, the aggrievtocrat can feel better than everyone else without any sense of obligation on his part to fix his own problems or care about other people.

    In America, not only blacks with slave ancestry get to play the aggrievtocrat but even black African immigrants whose ancestors captured and sold slaves to whites. Obama hasn't any black American slave blood --- his father's side is Kenyan --- , but he talks like any other black aggrievtocrat.

    White Liberals may think they are doing a favor to blacks by upholding this aggrievtocratic principle, but it has only created more problems in the black community, usually in the form of black-on-black violence. Since every black American feels totally justified on the basis of past history, he or she is incapable of any self-reflection or moral self-examination. Every black person, man and woman, thinks he or she is totally right all the time on the basis of his or her noble aggrievtocratic blood. So, naturally, there is a lot of black-on-black violence. Every black person, on the basis of his or her noble-victim-blood, thinks he or she is never ever wrong.
    To be sure, blacks are naturally wilder and more aggressive, but the culture of aggrievtocracy makes them much worse.

    All this BLM nonsense is the product of the aggrievetocratic mindset. In actual fact, most blacks are killed by other blacks. And there are tons of black-on-white violence, as well as black-on-brown, black-on-yellow, black-on-Arab violence.
    But blacks are completely blind to their own foulness because they think their blood makes them naturally noble and morally superior.
    Indeed, why make an effort to be good when you are said to be born with the superior blood of goodness?

    Indeed, a black guy can become a thug rapper and sing awful garbage, but the Liberal media will treat him like a poet and prophet spouting the most amazing sermon.
    Or a total idiot like Tahenesi Coates can babble on and on something that makes little sense, but the Liberal community will shower him with praise and treat him like a genius and prophet because he was born with black blood, or the noble blood of black victimhood.

    The culture of aggrievtocracy + naturally disposition of blacks toward aggression + lower IQ among American blacks(though not necessarily among Nigerian blacks) = worsening racial problems with the black underclass.

    PS: Aggrievtocracy is even crazier among Jews. At least, many blacks can still make the case that they are faced with economic problems and hardships, even if much of it is caused by themselves.

    In contrast, Jews are, bar none, the most powerful and privileged people on earth. And yet, all Jews everywhere think they are holy and noble simply because certain populations of European Jews were killed in huge numbers during WWII.
    So, even the likes of Jordan Befort and Anthony Wiener think they have some right to feel superior to the rest of us.

    Good stuff in this thread.

    Evangelical Zionism is a big cause of certain superiority complexes you mention.

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  62. @Anonymous
    The only Syrians raping Christians are the ones supported by Saudi Arabia, Isreal, and the US.

    So enough with your phony concern about Christian women. If you were truly sincere you would protest your Zionist leaders for the crimes they commit.

    Hey anonymous , in WN circles we chastise blacks for not taking responsibility for their actions . Although Im NO FAN of jews , we must excercize the same standard we apply to blacks evenly to everyone else , lest we risk not being taken seriously . In that vein , the muslim rapists in Syria and Iraq are solely responsible for the rapes they commit .

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    Yes they are. But I don't like Jews pretending like they care about the fate of Christian women. Especially when they along with their Wasp and Saudi friends are bankrolling the pain and misery.
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    @marwan
    Hey anonymous , in WN circles we chastise blacks for not taking responsibility for their actions . Although Im NO FAN of jews , we must excercize the same standard we apply to blacks evenly to everyone else , lest we risk not being taken seriously . In that vein , the muslim rapists in Syria and Iraq are solely responsible for the rapes they commit .

    Yes they are. But I don’t like Jews pretending like they care about the fate of Christian women. Especially when they along with their Wasp and Saudi friends are bankrolling the pain and misery.

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    sometimes i think we flatter the jew with our gross overestimation of their power and intelligence . here we have muslim men mass raping our white christian women and children from iraq to sweden and still we spend more time bemoaning the lack of jewish tears after the fact than we do the actual islamc perpatrators.
  64. @Anonymous
    Yes they are. But I don't like Jews pretending like they care about the fate of Christian women. Especially when they along with their Wasp and Saudi friends are bankrolling the pain and misery.

    sometimes i think we flatter the jew with our gross overestimation of their power and intelligence . here we have muslim men mass raping our white christian women and children from iraq to sweden and still we spend more time bemoaning the lack of jewish tears after the fact than we do the actual islamc perpatrators.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Could you explain why so many "bad muslims" have rushed (and got access) to Europe? A hint: perhaps the US-initiated slaughter in the Middle East and the ensuing huge migration processes have something to do with Oded Yinon plan? http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815
    Should not we demand from the Kagans, Perles, Kristols, Feith, Wolfowitz and their ardent AIPAC promoters to explain the U.S. citizenry (and now Europeans) why the U.S. and EU must pay for the Zionists' dream of Greater Israel?
    The U.S. have intervened in Iraq, Libya, and Syria and the result is a very costly disaster. Here is the financial cost (still counting): "U.S. Wars in Afghanistan, Iraq to Cost $6 trillion" http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-wars-in-afghanistan-iraq-to-cost-6-trillion/5350789
    "Every hour, taxpayers in the United States are paying $8.36 million for Total Cost of Wars Since 2001." https://www.nationalpriorities.org/cost-of/
  65. @NoseytheDuke
    I think you might want to see a doctor about that persistent rash problem. I especially appreciated that the final sentence of your post was one word only, Nonsense. The one word of truth in all of what you wrote and I couldn't have underlined or better placed it myself. Kudos.

    As a self-confessed coincidence theorist have you looked into the actual odds of many verifiable coincidences at seemingly disparate events that some are calling false flags? Did you ever hear about the Reichstag Fire, Tonkin Gulf? No?

    "The truth always comes out" does it? Not in your world. In your world even Newton's Laws become Newton's Theories in order for your logic to agree with what you posted. Quite a few people have accepted what are generally regarded as the laws of physics and so the nonsense that you coincidence theorists post re the 911 Truth (New OPEN investigation) Seekers simply invites ridicule or pity.

    No, everything is not a plot. What a silly statement. Some crimes do occur. Some monstrous crimes occur. Out of respect for the dead, their families, the emergency workers, all of the victims including the much reamed American taxpayer don't they deserve an open, honest investigation since the so-called investigation was provably a treasonous fraud? Don't you love America enough to agree that it is much warranted?

    Shit happens yes, and stupid is as stupid does.

    I'd very much like you to explain what you mean by the "heady stuff" that you referred to and is it by any chance related to your rash?

    The Reichstag fire was not a “false flag” but a spontaneous event that the Nazis appropriated and misused for their own ends.

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    It has now been more than seventy years since the Reichstag fire, so we have the benefit of some historical perspective. It has only been a little more than two years since 9-11, so we're just starting to accumulate some of that same sense of perspective. Nevertheless, we can now see quite clearly that war has been launched, first in Afghanistan and later in Iraq, and the attacks of 911 have been given as the justification. Speaking about recent American casualties in Iraq, President Bush stated on Nov. 4, 2003: "We are at war, and it is essential that the people of America not forget the lessons of September 11, 2001." This in spite of the fact that no credible evidence has emerged linking 911 to Iraq. So here we have the first analogy to the Reichstag Fire: a campaign to scapegoat an entire population (in this case, Middle Eastern Islamics) for the purported actions of a few, and along with that, an aggressive campaign of warfare.
    Another clear parallel is that there has been a cover-up, or at least a remarkable lack of interest by the authorities and the mainstream media in following-up the anomalies of 9-11. Consider, for example, the insider trading that has been researched by Mike Ruppert, Tom Flocco and Kyle Hence. Obviously, if we want to know who was really responsible for the 9-11 attacks, it would be helpful to know who had managed to learn about them in advance. Yet, as Ruppert notes at his web site...
  66. @Crawfurdmuir
    "Learn something about Jim Crow laws and lynchings..."

    Jim Crow laws segregated the races. When they were struck down, the races were supposed to be "integrated" - in other words, made equal participants in a whole (integral) society. How's that worked out? It hasn't. The races have self-resegregated. On college campuses, black students demand their own separate dormitories, academic departments, etc. Blacks don't want white police to enter their neighborhoods, etc.

    Tom Sowell has pointed out that black rates of illegitimacy, unemployment, and incarceration were all much lower in 1940 than they are today. Of course, in 1940, Jim Crow laws were in force in about 1/3 of the United States, and there were no anti-discrimination laws in any of the states. Correlation is of course not causation, but it is amazing that by those three metrics, blacks were objectively better off in the days of Jim Crow. Clearly the "civil rights" movement has not brought them much benefit; and the welfare state has made them into a class of sullen, resentful, and frequently criminal, dependents of the state.

    Fewer than 5,000 lynchings took place in the entire United States between 1882 and 1968. That's less than 60 a year for the whole country. There have been 189 homicides to date this year in Baltimore alone; 469 in Chicago alone. Those who express continuing grievance about long-ago lynching seem relatively unconcerned by this modern butchery.

    Charles J. Bonaparte (of the Baltimore Bonapartes), who served as Attorney General of the United States under Theodore Roosevelt, wrote in 1890:

    "Judge Lynch may make mistakes... but if the number of failures of justice in his court could be compared with those in our more regular tribunals, I am not sure that he need fear for the result. I believe that very few innocent men are lynched, and, of those who had not committed the past offense for which they suffer, a still smaller proportion are decent members of society. It is of course an evil that the law should be occasionally enforced by lawless means, but it is, in my opinion, a greater evil that it should be habitually duped and evaded by means formally legal... it [lynching] is not to violate, but to vindicate the law."

    There spoke a contemporary, and very distinguished, witness to the practice. The sense one gets of lynching by reading historical accounts of it is that it was, indeed, the enforcement of law by lawless means, and prevailed in places where formal law enforcement was distant, too thinly spread, or otherwise incapable or unwilling to carry out its responsibilities. I have to wonder what Attorney General Bonaparte would have had to say about the present lawlessness in his home town, and the way to deal with it.

    Oh, sure, things were so much better for blacks in the days of Jim Crow. We know from a completely reliable, objective source that lynchings weren’t about race, they only happened to bad people. Just like contemporary authoritative sources were sure that Jews weren’t being persecuted in Nazi Germany. And what’s a piddling 58 or so lynchings per year in the south, presuming all the lynchings were reported? Yeah, those darkies were happy living in dirt-floored shacks, being forbidden from using public facilities, being crowded into segregated transportation…. They were so thankful that the white folks would come through and eliminate the bad element in their communities, knowing that if they just knew their place the lynchings would never happen to them. After all, they wanted to lynch their bad element but they didn’t know how to do it. They needed those smart white crackers to do it for them. They even offered the white lynch mobs fried chicken, grits, and watermelon in gratitude. Then those gosh-durn Commie libruls told them that what was happening was wrong and ruined everything.

    Of course there was lower unemployment among blacks in 1940 than today. It was the beginning of the WWII armament boom. Unemployment was lower across the whole society. Of course, when those blacks arrived at those industrial jobs, there were some surly white workers ready to fight blacks at the drop of a hat. Incarceration and out-of-wedlock birth rates were also lower across the whole society. Sowell wouldn’t be cherry picking his metrics, would he?

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    I didn't say that "things were so much better for blacks in the days of Jim Crow" - only that, in 1940, black rates of illegitimacy, unemployment, and incarceration were lower than they are today. Those are objective, quantified data corroborated by official U.S. decennial censuses.

    The point of mentioning these facts was not to praise Jim Crow laws, but rather to observe that everything that has happened since they were struck down - from Brown v. Board of Education, to the 1960s civil rights laws, LBJ's "Great Society" programs (which have cost the taxpayer over $20 trillion since their inception), "affirmative action," etc. - has not done much to improve the condition of the U.S. black community.

    Similarly, the point of my comments about lynching was not to praise it, but rather to observe that 1) lynching was of comparatively little importance as a cause of the loss of innocent lives, and 2) there's a lot of selective indignation on the parts of those who complain about this historically remote phenomenon, while turning a blind eye to the present-day bloodshed due to black-on-black crime. Of course it's much more difficult to do something about that than it is to harp on ancient grievances. That's why you do the latter.
  67. @Thirdeye
    Oh, sure, things were so much better for blacks in the days of Jim Crow. We know from a completely reliable, objective source that lynchings weren't about race, they only happened to bad people. Just like contemporary authoritative sources were sure that Jews weren't being persecuted in Nazi Germany. And what's a piddling 58 or so lynchings per year in the south, presuming all the lynchings were reported? Yeah, those darkies were happy living in dirt-floored shacks, being forbidden from using public facilities, being crowded into segregated transportation.... They were so thankful that the white folks would come through and eliminate the bad element in their communities, knowing that if they just knew their place the lynchings would never happen to them. After all, they wanted to lynch their bad element but they didn't know how to do it. They needed those smart white crackers to do it for them. They even offered the white lynch mobs fried chicken, grits, and watermelon in gratitude. Then those gosh-durn Commie libruls told them that what was happening was wrong and ruined everything.

    Of course there was lower unemployment among blacks in 1940 than today. It was the beginning of the WWII armament boom. Unemployment was lower across the whole society. Of course, when those blacks arrived at those industrial jobs, there were some surly white workers ready to fight blacks at the drop of a hat. Incarceration and out-of-wedlock birth rates were also lower across the whole society. Sowell wouldn't be cherry picking his metrics, would he?

    I didn’t say that “things were so much better for blacks in the days of Jim Crow” – only that, in 1940, black rates of illegitimacy, unemployment, and incarceration were lower than they are today. Those are objective, quantified data corroborated by official U.S. decennial censuses.

    The point of mentioning these facts was not to praise Jim Crow laws, but rather to observe that everything that has happened since they were struck down – from Brown v. Board of Education, to the 1960s civil rights laws, LBJ’s “Great Society” programs (which have cost the taxpayer over $20 trillion since their inception), “affirmative action,” etc. – has not done much to improve the condition of the U.S. black community.

    Similarly, the point of my comments about lynching was not to praise it, but rather to observe that 1) lynching was of comparatively little importance as a cause of the loss of innocent lives, and 2) there’s a lot of selective indignation on the parts of those who complain about this historically remote phenomenon, while turning a blind eye to the present-day bloodshed due to black-on-black crime. Of course it’s much more difficult to do something about that than it is to harp on ancient grievances. That’s why you do the latter.

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    I didn’t say that “things were so much better for blacks in the days of Jim Crow” – only that, in 1940, black rates of illegitimacy, unemployment, and incarceration were lower than they are today. Those are objective, quantified data corroborated by official U.S. decennial censuses.
     
    I already pointed out to you why those metrics comparing 1940 to today are more about comparing conditions in society as a whole.

    ........everything that has happened since they were struck down – from Brown v. Board of Education, to the 1960s civil rights laws, LBJ’s “Great Society” programs (which have cost the taxpayer over $20 trillion since their inception), “affirmative action,” etc. – has not done much to improve the condition of the U.S. black community.[emphasis added]
     
    Some of those things have been effective, some haven't. There was plenty of black upward mobility from the 1950s to the 1970s. The income gap between blacks and whites was lowest during the 1970s. A big part of that was due to more equitable hiring and better education for blacks. Since then, both the income gaps within the white population and between the aggregate white population and the black population have increased. That is largely due to the ascendance of neoliberal economic policy that marginalizes the working class as a whole.

    Affirmative action has mainly benefited an extremely small minority of blacks. It was pursued most aggressively by the Justice Department of the Nixon administration. Quotas should be abolished.

    Similarly, the point of my comments about lynching was not to praise it, but rather to observe that 1) lynching was of comparatively little importance as a cause of the loss of innocent lives, and 2) there’s a lot of selective indignation on the parts of those who complain about this historically remote phenomenon, while turning a blind eye to the present-day bloodshed due to black-on-black crime.
     
    Lynching is a form of terrorism. Relatively few innocent lives have been lost in the US due to terrorism as well. Terrorism reverberates well beyond the number of actual lives lost. It is also not a historically remote phenomenon. It is invoked by white racists as well as by blacks.

    I never said that the bloodshed of black-on-black crime wasn't a problem. I think Black Lives Matter is hypocritical for that very reason. I also think it is hypocritical to use black-on-black crime as an excuse.

    Of course it’s much more difficult to do something about that than it is to harp on [allegedly] ancient grievances.
     
    Indeed it is. But the debate on whether racism or internal dysfunction among blacks is the greater problem is irrelevant and its partisans are all copping out. The problem that needs to be dispatched is always the immediate one. The problem that presents itself on these boards is racism, therefore, it is the one I will spend my efforts on. If these boards were infested with BLMers and other identity politics types I would be tangling with them just the same way I tangle with white racists.

    FYI, when I used to teach in inner-city schools (Oakland) I was known as a disciplinarian who shredded the race card. I made a small contribution towards providing a decent educational environment, in spite of all the systemic and cultural issues. That was my small contribution on the issue of black-on-black crime. Now tell us what you've done.
  68. @Thirdeye
    Racial antipathies in the US existed long before the Civil Rights movement, you moron. Learn something about Jim Crow laws and lynchings before you make a fool of yourself again. If Moscow was interested in stirring up racial antipathies, they would have been better off supporting the Ku Klux Klan.

    Racial antipathies in the US existed long before the Civil Rights movement, you moron. Learn something about Jim Crow laws and lynchings before you make a fool of yourself again. If Moscow was interested in stirring up racial antipathies, they would have been better off supporting the Ku Klux Klan.

    Re lynching, maybe you should follow your own advice:

    The Tuskegee Institute has recorded 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites being lynched between 1882 and 1968, with the annual peak occurring in the 1890s, at a time of economic stress in the South and political suppression

    That’s about 40 blacks a year. If you asked the average black person what the annual numbers were, they’d probably say thousands.

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  69. Jews were trading in slaves long before The Prophet was a gleam in Allah’s eye.

    Communists supported the Civil Rights movement? Good for them!

    Indeed it was.

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  70. @guest
    The Reichstag fire was not a "false flag" but a spontaneous event that the Nazis appropriated and misused for their own ends.

    It has now been more than seventy years since the Reichstag fire, so we have the benefit of some historical perspective. It has only been a little more than two years since 9-11, so we’re just starting to accumulate some of that same sense of perspective. Nevertheless, we can now see quite clearly that war has been launched, first in Afghanistan and later in Iraq, and the attacks of 911 have been given as the justification. Speaking about recent American casualties in Iraq, President Bush stated on Nov. 4, 2003: “We are at war, and it is essential that the people of America not forget the lessons of September 11, 2001.” This in spite of the fact that no credible evidence has emerged linking 911 to Iraq. So here we have the first analogy to the Reichstag Fire: a campaign to scapegoat an entire population (in this case, Middle Eastern Islamics) for the purported actions of a few, and along with that, an aggressive campaign of warfare.
    Another clear parallel is that there has been a cover-up, or at least a remarkable lack of interest by the authorities and the mainstream media in following-up the anomalies of 9-11. Consider, for example, the insider trading that has been researched by Mike Ruppert, Tom Flocco and Kyle Hence. Obviously, if we want to know who was really responsible for the 9-11 attacks, it would be helpful to know who had managed to learn about them in advance. Yet, as Ruppert notes at his web site…

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  71. @marwan
    sometimes i think we flatter the jew with our gross overestimation of their power and intelligence . here we have muslim men mass raping our white christian women and children from iraq to sweden and still we spend more time bemoaning the lack of jewish tears after the fact than we do the actual islamc perpatrators.

    Could you explain why so many “bad muslims” have rushed (and got access) to Europe? A hint: perhaps the US-initiated slaughter in the Middle East and the ensuing huge migration processes have something to do with Oded Yinon plan? http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815
    Should not we demand from the Kagans, Perles, Kristols, Feith, Wolfowitz and their ardent AIPAC promoters to explain the U.S. citizenry (and now Europeans) why the U.S. and EU must pay for the Zionists’ dream of Greater Israel?
    The U.S. have intervened in Iraq, Libya, and Syria and the result is a very costly disaster. Here is the financial cost (still counting): “U.S. Wars in Afghanistan, Iraq to Cost $6 trillion” http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-wars-in-afghanistan-iraq-to-cost-6-trillion/5350789
    Every hour, taxpayers in the United States are paying $8.36 million for Total Cost of Wars Since 2001.” https://www.nationalpriorities.org/cost-of/

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  72. @Crawfurdmuir
    I didn't say that "things were so much better for blacks in the days of Jim Crow" - only that, in 1940, black rates of illegitimacy, unemployment, and incarceration were lower than they are today. Those are objective, quantified data corroborated by official U.S. decennial censuses.

    The point of mentioning these facts was not to praise Jim Crow laws, but rather to observe that everything that has happened since they were struck down - from Brown v. Board of Education, to the 1960s civil rights laws, LBJ's "Great Society" programs (which have cost the taxpayer over $20 trillion since their inception), "affirmative action," etc. - has not done much to improve the condition of the U.S. black community.

    Similarly, the point of my comments about lynching was not to praise it, but rather to observe that 1) lynching was of comparatively little importance as a cause of the loss of innocent lives, and 2) there's a lot of selective indignation on the parts of those who complain about this historically remote phenomenon, while turning a blind eye to the present-day bloodshed due to black-on-black crime. Of course it's much more difficult to do something about that than it is to harp on ancient grievances. That's why you do the latter.

    I didn’t say that “things were so much better for blacks in the days of Jim Crow” – only that, in 1940, black rates of illegitimacy, unemployment, and incarceration were lower than they are today. Those are objective, quantified data corroborated by official U.S. decennial censuses.

    I already pointed out to you why those metrics comparing 1940 to today are more about comparing conditions in society as a whole.

    ……..everything that has happened since they were struck down – from Brown v. Board of Education, to the 1960s civil rights laws, LBJ’s “Great Society” programs (which have cost the taxpayer over $20 trillion since their inception), “affirmative action,” etc. – has not done much to improve the condition of the U.S. black community.[emphasis added]

    Some of those things have been effective, some haven’t. There was plenty of black upward mobility from the 1950s to the 1970s. The income gap between blacks and whites was lowest during the 1970s. A big part of that was due to more equitable hiring and better education for blacks. Since then, both the income gaps within the white population and between the aggregate white population and the black population have increased. That is largely due to the ascendance of neoliberal economic policy that marginalizes the working class as a whole.

    Affirmative action has mainly benefited an extremely small minority of blacks. It was pursued most aggressively by the Justice Department of the Nixon administration. Quotas should be abolished.

    Similarly, the point of my comments about lynching was not to praise it, but rather to observe that 1) lynching was of comparatively little importance as a cause of the loss of innocent lives, and 2) there’s a lot of selective indignation on the parts of those who complain about this historically remote phenomenon, while turning a blind eye to the present-day bloodshed due to black-on-black crime.

    Lynching is a form of terrorism. Relatively few innocent lives have been lost in the US due to terrorism as well. Terrorism reverberates well beyond the number of actual lives lost. It is also not a historically remote phenomenon. It is invoked by white racists as well as by blacks.

    I never said that the bloodshed of black-on-black crime wasn’t a problem. I think Black Lives Matter is hypocritical for that very reason. I also think it is hypocritical to use black-on-black crime as an excuse.

    Of course it’s much more difficult to do something about that than it is to harp on [allegedly] ancient grievances.

    Indeed it is. But the debate on whether racism or internal dysfunction among blacks is the greater problem is irrelevant and its partisans are all copping out. The problem that needs to be dispatched is always the immediate one. The problem that presents itself on these boards is racism, therefore, it is the one I will spend my efforts on. If these boards were infested with BLMers and other identity politics types I would be tangling with them just the same way I tangle with white racists.

    FYI, when I used to teach in inner-city schools (Oakland) I was known as a disciplinarian who shredded the race card. I made a small contribution towards providing a decent educational environment, in spite of all the systemic and cultural issues. That was my small contribution on the issue of black-on-black crime. Now tell us what you’ve done.

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    "I already pointed out to you why those metrics comparing 1940 to today are more about comparing conditions in society as a whole."

    You are wrong. Unemployment in 1940 was 18.2% - the Great Depression was not really over. Today it is a little more than 5%, yet black unemployment is higher today than it was then.

    "Lynching is a form of terrorism."

    Lynching was not "terrorism." As the Bonaparte quote illustrates, it was typically law enforcement by extra-legal means where formal law enforcement was either deficient or corrupt. For an example of the latter, consider the case of the crooked sheriff Henry Plummer:

    http://www.legendsofamerica.com/mt-henryplummer.html

    Accusations of "racism" are the last refuge of the scoundrel. This country has coddled black dysfunction for fifty years. It is time to end that. I agree with you that quotas should be abolished. When Lincoln was asked what the newly-freed blacks were to do, he is supposed to have replied, "Root, hog - or die." Frederick Douglass, when asked what should be done with the ex-slaves, similarly responded, "leave them alone." It is time to follow this advice. Withdraw affirmative action and welfare for the able-bodied. Enforce the criminal law strictly. Exclude cheap immigrant labor and give blacks a chance to do the jobs from which immigrants are currently displacing them.
  73. @Thirdeye

    I didn’t say that “things were so much better for blacks in the days of Jim Crow” – only that, in 1940, black rates of illegitimacy, unemployment, and incarceration were lower than they are today. Those are objective, quantified data corroborated by official U.S. decennial censuses.
     
    I already pointed out to you why those metrics comparing 1940 to today are more about comparing conditions in society as a whole.

    ........everything that has happened since they were struck down – from Brown v. Board of Education, to the 1960s civil rights laws, LBJ’s “Great Society” programs (which have cost the taxpayer over $20 trillion since their inception), “affirmative action,” etc. – has not done much to improve the condition of the U.S. black community.[emphasis added]
     
    Some of those things have been effective, some haven't. There was plenty of black upward mobility from the 1950s to the 1970s. The income gap between blacks and whites was lowest during the 1970s. A big part of that was due to more equitable hiring and better education for blacks. Since then, both the income gaps within the white population and between the aggregate white population and the black population have increased. That is largely due to the ascendance of neoliberal economic policy that marginalizes the working class as a whole.

    Affirmative action has mainly benefited an extremely small minority of blacks. It was pursued most aggressively by the Justice Department of the Nixon administration. Quotas should be abolished.

    Similarly, the point of my comments about lynching was not to praise it, but rather to observe that 1) lynching was of comparatively little importance as a cause of the loss of innocent lives, and 2) there’s a lot of selective indignation on the parts of those who complain about this historically remote phenomenon, while turning a blind eye to the present-day bloodshed due to black-on-black crime.
     
    Lynching is a form of terrorism. Relatively few innocent lives have been lost in the US due to terrorism as well. Terrorism reverberates well beyond the number of actual lives lost. It is also not a historically remote phenomenon. It is invoked by white racists as well as by blacks.

    I never said that the bloodshed of black-on-black crime wasn't a problem. I think Black Lives Matter is hypocritical for that very reason. I also think it is hypocritical to use black-on-black crime as an excuse.

    Of course it’s much more difficult to do something about that than it is to harp on [allegedly] ancient grievances.
     
    Indeed it is. But the debate on whether racism or internal dysfunction among blacks is the greater problem is irrelevant and its partisans are all copping out. The problem that needs to be dispatched is always the immediate one. The problem that presents itself on these boards is racism, therefore, it is the one I will spend my efforts on. If these boards were infested with BLMers and other identity politics types I would be tangling with them just the same way I tangle with white racists.

    FYI, when I used to teach in inner-city schools (Oakland) I was known as a disciplinarian who shredded the race card. I made a small contribution towards providing a decent educational environment, in spite of all the systemic and cultural issues. That was my small contribution on the issue of black-on-black crime. Now tell us what you've done.

    “I already pointed out to you why those metrics comparing 1940 to today are more about comparing conditions in society as a whole.”

    You are wrong. Unemployment in 1940 was 18.2% – the Great Depression was not really over. Today it is a little more than 5%, yet black unemployment is higher today than it was then.

    “Lynching is a form of terrorism.”

    Lynching was not “terrorism.” As the Bonaparte quote illustrates, it was typically law enforcement by extra-legal means where formal law enforcement was either deficient or corrupt. For an example of the latter, consider the case of the crooked sheriff Henry Plummer:

    http://www.legendsofamerica.com/mt-henryplummer.html

    Accusations of “racism” are the last refuge of the scoundrel. This country has coddled black dysfunction for fifty years. It is time to end that. I agree with you that quotas should be abolished. When Lincoln was asked what the newly-freed blacks were to do, he is supposed to have replied, “Root, hog – or die.” Frederick Douglass, when asked what should be done with the ex-slaves, similarly responded, “leave them alone.” It is time to follow this advice. Withdraw affirmative action and welfare for the able-bodied. Enforce the criminal law strictly. Exclude cheap immigrant labor and give blacks a chance to do the jobs from which immigrants are currently displacing them.

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    Unemployment in 1940 was 18.2%
     
    WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

    Unemployment was not 18.2% in 1940 by any model. The last year unemployment was that high was the recession year, 1938, using a high estimate model. Another model puts the number at 12.5% for that year. The high and low estimates for 1940 are 14.6% and 9.5%, respectively. And the rate was dropping through 1940. You are also comparing incomparable statistics in citing the current "unemployment rate" of 5%. That is the amount of people drawing unemployment compensation. There is easily an equal number of people out of work and not drawing unemployment compensation. The post-2008 labor market has been the worst of any time since the Great Depression.

    Bonaparte was full of shit. Racial lynching was racial terrorism, used to keep "niggers" from getting uppity. Osama bin Laden tried to make the case that terrorism is also a form of redress for crimes against Muslims. Since you accept Bonaparte's rationale for lynching, you might be willing to entertain that idea.

    Accusations of “racism” are the last refuge of the scoundrel.
     
    Sometimes. Like the kids that tried to call me racist for maintaining standards of classroom discipline. But racism is also very real, as can be seen on these boards.

    Frederick Douglass, when asked what should be done with the ex-slaves, similarly responded, “leave them alone.”
     
    But the fact is, they weren't left alone. They were systematically marginalized by Jim Crow after Reconstruction.
  74. @Crawfurdmuir
    "I already pointed out to you why those metrics comparing 1940 to today are more about comparing conditions in society as a whole."

    You are wrong. Unemployment in 1940 was 18.2% - the Great Depression was not really over. Today it is a little more than 5%, yet black unemployment is higher today than it was then.

    "Lynching is a form of terrorism."

    Lynching was not "terrorism." As the Bonaparte quote illustrates, it was typically law enforcement by extra-legal means where formal law enforcement was either deficient or corrupt. For an example of the latter, consider the case of the crooked sheriff Henry Plummer:

    http://www.legendsofamerica.com/mt-henryplummer.html

    Accusations of "racism" are the last refuge of the scoundrel. This country has coddled black dysfunction for fifty years. It is time to end that. I agree with you that quotas should be abolished. When Lincoln was asked what the newly-freed blacks were to do, he is supposed to have replied, "Root, hog - or die." Frederick Douglass, when asked what should be done with the ex-slaves, similarly responded, "leave them alone." It is time to follow this advice. Withdraw affirmative action and welfare for the able-bodied. Enforce the criminal law strictly. Exclude cheap immigrant labor and give blacks a chance to do the jobs from which immigrants are currently displacing them.

    Unemployment in 1940 was 18.2%

    WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

    Unemployment was not 18.2% in 1940 by any model. The last year unemployment was that high was the recession year, 1938, using a high estimate model. Another model puts the number at 12.5% for that year. The high and low estimates for 1940 are 14.6% and 9.5%, respectively. And the rate was dropping through 1940. You are also comparing incomparable statistics in citing the current “unemployment rate” of 5%. That is the amount of people drawing unemployment compensation. There is easily an equal number of people out of work and not drawing unemployment compensation. The post-2008 labor market has been the worst of any time since the Great Depression.

    Bonaparte was full of shit. Racial lynching was racial terrorism, used to keep “niggers” from getting uppity. Osama bin Laden tried to make the case that terrorism is also a form of redress for crimes against Muslims. Since you accept Bonaparte’s rationale for lynching, you might be willing to entertain that idea.

    Accusations of “racism” are the last refuge of the scoundrel.

    Sometimes. Like the kids that tried to call me racist for maintaining standards of classroom discipline. But racism is also very real, as can be seen on these boards.

    Frederick Douglass, when asked what should be done with the ex-slaves, similarly responded, “leave them alone.”

    But the fact is, they weren’t left alone. They were systematically marginalized by Jim Crow after Reconstruction.

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  75. @marwan
    sickening how you whitewash islamic slavery . btw all the sex slaving of christian girls in iraq and syria is done by muslims , shia or sunni . btw since you are a persiaphile , iran executed 6,000 people for the crime of homosexuality since 1979. they also hang bahai school teachers from cranes in tehran for public execution, for the crime of teaching sunday school. search mona mahmudnizad .

    Oh, and they take prisoners from the ranks of foreign visiting journalists, teachers and Christian ministers, bargaining chips, mostly, although why anyone visits a festering shithole like Iran is beyond me, especially Christians that go there. Any that are allowed to live there are surely caged and isolated, but held up as evidence of how progressive Iran is. Marwan, there are several that attempt to cover Islam/Muslim malfeasance and misbehavior and are verbally vicious and profane in their defense of their beloved religion of peace. Everything they cause of course is the fault of Jews. Fuggem. Muslims are just the same bad brand as American and African Dindu. Low-IQ, low performance, jealous, violent and worthless culture. If they didn’t have our oil under their feet, who would pay them any attention?

    Good take, Marwan, but all you’ll hear from them in reply is the sound of crickets and the hatred of Jews.

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  76. @Art

    “War is the father of all things.”
    –Heraclitus

    Those words have lived for 2400 years, and will still be around when MLK is a deservedly forgotten footnote.
     
    Is war the father of knowledge – how about intellectual Christian philosophy, Newtonian physics, Darwinian evolution?

    Or did these things come about in spite of biological tribalism and war?

    The fact that you use the term “Darwinian evolution” reveals you don’t have the chops for this conversation. Begone.

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