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I recently characterized the tsunami of analysis about the Paris attacks as a case of Orientalism. What isn’t important is what may have happened. What’s important is that we control the alien entity: we define the problem, we dictate the proper response and, natch, we get to declare victory—or at least what victory would look like if we stopped listening to the handwringers and had our spooks and soldiers build us an impregnable fortress of pure gold.

I’m a cui bono guy to a fault; I’ll admit that. I don’t give enough weight and legitimacy to emotions and irrationality as drivers for actions.

And I have to say I detected a distinct shortage of “bono” to IS in the Paris attacks, unless the thinking of the leadership runs to “It would be an excellent idea to focus the fury of the West upon us here in Iraq instead of laying low and letting the West go along with the GCC/Turkish plan of quagmiring Russia in Syria.”

Doesn’t make too much sense. Which is why, in my opinion, is why you see a lot of metaphysical handwaving that the real motive for the attacks was to erase the Muslim “grey zone”, provoke a fatal over-reaction from the West, contribute to the agonies of the Syrian refugees in Europe, rend the time-space continuum and thereby bring the Crusaders to their knees, etc.

Let me introduce some interesting factiness on the matter of the alleged mastermind, Abdelhamid Abaaoud.

Abaaoud was well known as a violent radical miscreant linked to an Islamic cell in Verviers, Belgium, that did all sorts of mean, murderous crap.

In an article with the, in retrospect, bitterly ironic title “Second Paris averted by hours”, the Daily Mail reported on a January 2015 raid in Verviers, Belgium, the one Abaaoud famously evaded.

The Belgian terror cell linked to the Islamic State (Isis) group, which was raided by police overnight, was plotting to either take a passenger bus hostage or behead a member of Belgian authority such as a policeman or a magistrate, according to local media reports.

So, he was going to behead a policeman, or maybe hijack a passenger bus.

After Abaaoud was linked to the Paris outrage, the Verviers activities were upgraded to “major terrorist attack:

Abaaoud was the main target of a major police raid on a terrorist cell in Verviers, Belgium, in January in which two jihadists were killed. It was carried out within days of the Charlie Hebdo attacks in Paris, though police said the two events were not linked.

In July he was sentenced to 20 years in absentia along with 32 other jihadists. The Belgian cell was said to have been planning a major terrorist attack, including abducting and beheading a prominent law enforcement official and posting a video of it online.

Police believe Abaaoud helped arrange a terrorist attack on an Amsterdam to Paris train on August 21, which was thwarted by four passengers including British businessman Chris Norman. The French newspaper Liberation claimed he was in contact with Ayoub El-Khazzani, the man who opened fire in a carriage of the train before he was overwhelmed by passengers.

The Verviers cell apparently hung out with the JAN cell at Vilvoorde, Belgium, an indication perhaps that we are talking about local radicalized Muslims more than the feared and dreaded sleeper cell staffed by professional jihadis of unknown provenance, maybe even…masquerading as refugees!

For some perspective on whether or not attacks of the November outrage in Paris could be ginned up locally, as opposed to orchestrated out of Raqqa, the January Daily Mail article reminds us of how the Charlie Hedbo attackers acquired their gear:

Police said earlier this week that automatic weapons and a rocket launcher used in the Charlie Hebdo and Kosher supermarket attacks in Paris were purchased from Belgian gangs.

The Scorpion machine gun and the Tokarev handgun used by Amedy Coulibaly during his attack on the kosher supermarket which resulted in the deaths of four Jewish Parisians came from Brussels and Charleroi.

And the Kalashnikovs and rocket launchers used by the Kouachi brothers to attack the offices of the Charlie Hebdo magazine, killing 12, were purchased by Coulibaly near the Gare du Midi in Brussels for less than £4000.

Yes, apparently you can go down to the train station in Brussels and purchase a rocket launcher.

So, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, radicalized Euro-thug of Moroccan decent, or ISIS’s chosen instrument for the destruction of Western civilization?

The indispensable first stop is the blog of a Belgian researcher, Pieter van Ostaeyen. He writes about radicalized Belgian Muslims. Back in January, he had a post that mentioned Abdelhamid Abaaoud:

It seems fair to state that there is a rather strong connection between an important part of the Belgian ISIS fighters and the supposedly Libyan brigade of ISIS.

After the foiled attacks in Verviers in Belgium on January 8, 2015, it became clear that the main suspect Abdelhamid Abaaoud can be linked directly to this group. His little brother Younes (aged 14 and hence probably the youngest foreign fighter in Syria) has been portrayed multiple times in the ranks of Libyan fighters in Syria.

Van Ostaeyen has a lot of interesting pictures from social media about the “supposedly Libyan brigade of ISIS”, which goes by the name “Katibat al-Battar al-Libi.” The pictures make fighting in Syria look like Spring Break for radicalized Islamic bros, with the advantage that you get to blow things up and kill people, and the disadvantage that people can kill you.

Van Ostaeyen’s most remarkable get is a photograph of a list of martyrs from the brigade including the names of eight fighters surnamed “el-Belgiki”, presumably because they were ex-Belgium. That’s about 20% of the fatalities listed.

Van Ostaeyen’s also quoted in a post-Paris NYT backgrounder. It provides an interesting insight on why he might fall in with a Libyan outfit:

Abdelhamid Abaaoud is suspected of being a leader of a branch of the Islamic State in Syria called Katibat al-Battar al Libi, which has its origins in Libya. This particular branch has attracted many Belgian fighters because of language and cultural ties, said Pieter van Ostaeyen, who tracks Belgian militants.

Many Belgian Muslims are of Moroccan origin, he said, and speak a dialect found in eastern Morocco that is similar to a Libyan dialect. Aymenn Jawad al-Tamimi, who studies jihadi groups at the Middle East Forum, a research center in Washington, said there was no evidence yet that the Paris attacks had been ordered by Adnani or the Islamic State’s overall leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

But he added that the soldiers at Libyan branch that includes Abaaoud has played a prominent role in exporting violence. One of their tasks he said, has been to organize plots that “involved foreign fighters, sleeper cells in Europe that were connected with an operative inside of Syria and Iraq, usually in a lower to midlevel position.”

At the end of his January blogpost, van Ostaeyen links to a piece by Aymenn al-Tamimi on Joshua Landis’ website. You go there and you find a brief 2014 piece about Katibat al-Battar al-Libi. Not much there:

This group, which has existed at least since the summer of last year, is the Libyan division of the Islamic State of Iraq and ash-Sham (ISIS), despite false rumours that the battalion had defected to Jabhat al-Nusra. Libya itself has been a big source of muhajireen in both Iraq and Syria over the past decade, so the fact that there is a battalion devoted to recruiting Libyan fighters should come as no surprise. The existence of Katiba al-Bittar al-Libi as a front group for ISIS perhaps reflects a wider pro-ISIS trend across central North Africa with the Ansar ash-Shari’a movements in Tunisia and Libya.

Wandering off into English-language Google, you don’t get a lot of hits. But you get this from some murky Israeli intel outfit called “The Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center” (points are abridged; go to link for full text):

Within the Arab foreign fighters there is a hard core of Salafist-jihadi, Al-Qaeda and global jihad operatives, some of them veterans of the fighting in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and other Islamic combat zones

10. Estimates for the number of Libyan fighters in Syria vary between hundreds and almost a thousand .

11. Some of the fighters who joined the ranks of the rebels in Syria are Libyan nationals and some are foreign operatives who fought in Libya and transferred their activities to Syria after the fall of the Gaddafi regime..

12. Some of the Libyan fighters went to Syria and use their combat experience to train and organize the rebels . They gave them logistic support, teach them how to operate heavy weapons and manage communications. According to reports, the Libyan fighters operated training bases and taught the rebels military tactics (Trust.org, August 12, 2012). They also provided humanitarian support and were involved in transporting weapons into Syria throughout 2013.

13. The fighters come from both eastern Libya (Benghazi) and western Libya (Tripoli). A significant number come from the city of Derna, located east of Benghazi, which Muammar Gaddafi called “an Islamic emirate” because it was a center for Islamic terrorism during his regime.

14. The Libyans arrive in Syria in much the same way as the other fighters, usually by air to Turkey (Libyans do not need visas for Turkey). From Istanbul they fly to Antakya in southern Turkey and from there they go overland to towns and villages near the Turkish-Syrian border. They usually receive support from Islamic networks and sometimes the trip to Syria is paid for by them (Der Spiegel, April 30, 2012).

15. In December 2012 a battalion was formed of Libyan foreign fighter which exists to this day. It is called the Katibat al-Battar (The Battalion of the Slicing Sword). It is affiliated with the ISIS and fights mainly in the regions of Latakia, Deir ez-Zor and Idlib.

Aaron Zelin has some info in an April 2015 on Libya over at the Hudson Institute. A footnote about IS fighters in Libya states:

These are under the command of what once was called MSSI and is comprised of those Libyans returned from Syria under the banner of Katibat al-Battar.

Interesting, right? A military formation that pre-existed its deployment in Syria. And guess what? It even preceded ISIS.

Carnegie Endowment for Peace, in a March 2015 report:

Libyans had already begun traveling to fight in Syria in 2011, joining existing jihadi factions or starting their own. In 2012, one group of Libyans in Syria declared the establishment of the Battar Brigade in a statement laden with anti-Shia sectarianism. The Battar Brigade founders also thanked “the citizens of Derna,” a city in northeastern Libya long known as a hotbed of radical Islamism, for their support for the struggle in Syria.

Later, the Battar Brigade fighters in Syria would pledge loyalty to the Islamic State, and fight for it in both Syria and Iraq, including against its al-Qaeda rivals. In April 2014, the Battar Brigade announced the “martyrdom” of 25 of its fighters in a Nusra Front suicide attack on an Islamic State location.

In the spring of 2014, many Battar Brigade fighters returned to Libya. In Derna, they reorganized themselves as the Islamic Youth Shura Council (IYSC). In September, an Islamic State delegation, including the Yemeni Abu al-Bara al-Azdi and the Saudi Abu Habib al-Jazrawi, arrived in Libya. After being received by the IYSC, they collected pledges of allegiance to the Islamic State’s self-appointed caliph, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, from IYSC-aligned fighters in Derna. They then declared eastern Libya to be a province of the Islamic State, calling it Wilayat Barqa, or the Cyrenaica Province.

Katibat al-Battar al-Libi, in other words, was formed as a rather bloody piece of outreach by the local Islamists to share Libya experience in insurrection and revolution with Syria. After IS arose and became a dominant military and financial force, the “KBL” threw in their lot with ISIS, and members of the brigade subsequently returned to Libya to establish an IS beachhead.

A July 2015 study by Small Arms Survey which I cannot recommend highly enough makes the point that foreign fighters, in addition to accumulating general jihadi merit, were also interested in acquiring skills they could apply in their own struggles. Moroccans–not just Europeans of Moroccan descent, like Abaaoud, but also, for lack of a better word, Moroccan Moroccans–are a big presence in the jihadi movement. So, in passing, I would recommend thinking twice about the advantages of a Moroccan vacation timeshare.

The SAR report also confirms the autonomous character of Katibat al-Battar al-Libi.

While the uncertain relationship between JAN and IS was being clarified, Libyans stayed ‘outside’ the fray, remaining in their own units and not integrating into other IS hierarchies or command structures. In Latakia for instance, Libyans kept their own separate battalion (The Daily Star, 2013). As the split between JAN and IS deepened, Libyans chose IS but remained apart, forming the Katibat al-Battar al-Libiya (KBL) (The Libyan al-Battar Brigade), under the auspices of IS. Since its formation, the KBL has been active in eastern Syria, notably in Al Hasakah and Deir az-Zor. The battalion maintained links with Ansar al-Sharia in Libya, an early and prominent supporter of IS. Ansar al-Sharia proved to be an excellent recruiting tool and played a role in the arrival of many Libyans in Syria prior to 2014.

And who is Ansar al-Sharia in Libya? Via The Telegraph:

Washington believes the group is responsible for the 2012 attack on the US consulate in Benghazi that killed the ambassador and three other Americans.

In November, the United Nations blacklisted Ansar al-Sharia Benghazi and its sister group, Ansar al-Sharia Derna, over links to Al-Qaeda and for running camps for the Islamist State group.

So there you have it. The Paris outrage made in Libya. Not Syria. Brought to us by the people who killed Christopher Stevens in Benghazi.

I am sure that Hillary Clinton is grateful to the French police for botching the raid to capture Abaaoud and pumped 5000 rounds into his apartment instead of capturing him; otherwise, he might have become a live topic of interest and curiosity and the right wing could have cooked off the Benghazi! munitions through election day.

To sum up: the alleged and now reportedly deceased architect of the Paris attacks, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, did not fight “for IS”. He fought “with” Katibat al-Battar al-Libi, an outfit whose presence in Syria predates that of ISIS. Even after Katibat al-Battar al-Libi decided to pledge allegiance to ISIS, it retained its independent identity. It is possible that Abaaoud was acting under orders from Baghdad to commit the Paris outrage. But he might have been an angry guy with the skills and inclination to commit mass murder on his own kick. And the police were already after him big time after the Vervier raid in January (we are now told that Abaaoud was “on” or a “candidate for” a spot on the drone assassination assignment list, but wonder if this is post-hoc ass-covering). So maybe he and his friends decided to pull the pin, and go out in a big way.

I doubt we’ll ever get the full story. But “Paris: Made in Libya” is an honest hook.

(Republished from China Matters by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Great reporting, but my gag reflex kicked when I encountered natch.

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  2. woah. peter really do come up with very fresh takes on alot of important issues.

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  3. Kiza says:

    I am sure that Hillary Clinton is grateful to the French police for botching the raid to capture Abaaoud and pumped 5000 rounds into his apartment instead of capturing him; otherwise, he might have become a live topic of interest and curiosity

    Yeah, very grateful for this “accidental” outcome. I doubt that the Republicans would have used Abaaoud’s case for any political gain, because it would have exposed the US complicity with non “moderate” terrorists, which is a big no-no even during the dirty US Presidential Race.

    What is missing from this Peter’s reliable expose? Peter rightly points out the Belgian connection to Libya as the source of Paris terrorist attack. But he misses one very important point. The US was complicit and helpful to ISIS – it supplied weapons and protection to ISIS’ oil smuggling to Turkey (operated by Erdogan’s son). But it was the French and Belgian military officers who directly trained ISIS fighters to bring down Gaddafi and later Assad. This appears to have been detailed in the documents supplied by Russia at G20. It is not yet clear who really directed the Paris attack, but it could have been a mother of all blow-backs: the French and the Belgian (French-speaking) officers trained terrorists in their former colonies, which later did attack the capital.

    Alternatively, the Paris attack could have been a part of a plan to introduce marshal law into France and Belgium, countries whose economies are in the dump and swamped by Muslim refugees. The Syrian passport found next to one of the attackers who “blew himself up” was either carried by this attacker on an order or was planted there by those who organized the attack.

    I am pretty sure that, once the dust clears, we will have a better idea what really happened in Paris, or rather who happened in Paris.

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    Yeah, very grateful for this “accidental” outcome. I doubt that the Republicans would have used Abaaoud’s case for any political gain, because it would have exposed the US complicity with non “moderate” terrorists, which is a big no-no even during the dirty US Presidential Race.
     
    Yeah, I always thought it was weird that the GOP and Fox News hyped Benghazi, since they are neocon bitches who supported the "rebels" to take down Assad. They still do, except for Trump, Paul, and a few paleocon others in Congress. Benghazi was an operation to funnel arms to the jihadists. Thanks all you American mercenaries involved in this operation, who Fox News celebrates because they think it makes Hillary look bad.
    , @bunga
    Eisenhpwer wrote in his diary " Most of these were covert operations" by CIA in collusion with presidential office and the defense i.e Iran,Guatemla, Cuba ,Dominican republic , Rendition, Brain research in clandestine research sites, psychiatric tretament to make people confess or become zombie, bringing Nazis back to US universities / spy agenies , putting right wing in charge in European Goverenment , LSD exposure,spread of anhrax to civilians ,enocuraging or cauisng suicides and much more
    It was done to keep Congress out of the picture .

    This "diary" did not come to light until 2009 when it was declassified.

    It will take another 50 yrs to find out what we need to know now about the post 911 world
    , @dahoit
    Just about every suspect is snuffed.Who cares about leads to other events?Stories change daily,in every case.
    Yankee come home.
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  4. “Paris: Made in Libya” is an honest hook

    Bullshit. “Paris: made in Paris” would be the more honest hook. Bernard-Henri Lévy lobbying Sarkozy who managed to get Hillary on board lobbying for overthrow of Gaddafi would be the better start down the rabbit trail this article has taken.

    Insofar as the rise of IS, ISIS, ISIL, Islamic State, Daesh, you need look no farther than ‘the western powers’ capitals Paris, London, Berlin, & Washington with ample help from Tel Aviv, Ankara, Doha and Riyadh:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/11/18/the-real-intelligence-on-our-leaders/

    Referencing:

    Speaking directly to the above intelligence report, the western powers enabling the rise of Islamic State, according to the former boss of the Defense Intelligence Agency, General Mike Flynn, “was willful” & “a policy decision”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG3j8OYKgn4

    “We’ve seen an outrageous attempt to terrorize innocent civilians, this is an attack not just on Paris, it is an attack not just on the people of France, but it is an attack on all of humanity and the universal values we share” -Barack Obama

    Better had Obama truthfully stated ‘our clandestine agencies employing state terror to overthrow Assad has backfired’

    Why didn’t Obama, Hollande and company consider their clandestinely promoting the rise of Islamic State as a device to overthrow Assad was “an outrageous attempt to terrorize innocent civilians [and] an attack on all of humanity and the universal values we share” ??

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  5. These guys are all puppets. Who is pulling the strings?

    How about “Paris: Made in Tel Aviv”?

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    How about you need psychiatric help.
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  6. Sherman says:
    @Jonathan Revusky
    These guys are all puppets. Who is pulling the strings?

    How about "Paris: Made in Tel Aviv"?

    How about you need psychiatric help.

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  7. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Take a look at this video of the French investigating a Paris cafe AFTER it had been hit by a ‘suicide’ bomber. Does anyone see any blast damage?

    And how can chairs and coffee cups remain upright after being subject to a suicide bombing blast?

    Abaaoud, the alleged mastermind, was seen sitting outside his apartment the day after the Paris attacks, drinking whiskey.

    http://www.pakstatus.com/2015/11/paris-attacks-mastermind-seen-drinking-alcohol-after-attacks/

    “Merde!”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_QH0WkBeP0

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  8. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Kiza

    I am sure that Hillary Clinton is grateful to the French police for botching the raid to capture Abaaoud and pumped 5000 rounds into his apartment instead of capturing him; otherwise, he might have become a live topic of interest and curiosity
     
    Yeah, very grateful for this "accidental" outcome. I doubt that the Republicans would have used Abaaoud's case for any political gain, because it would have exposed the US complicity with non "moderate" terrorists, which is a big no-no even during the dirty US Presidential Race.

    What is missing from this Peter's reliable expose? Peter rightly points out the Belgian connection to Libya as the source of Paris terrorist attack. But he misses one very important point. The US was complicit and helpful to ISIS - it supplied weapons and protection to ISIS' oil smuggling to Turkey (operated by Erdogan's son). But it was the French and Belgian military officers who directly trained ISIS fighters to bring down Gaddafi and later Assad. This appears to have been detailed in the documents supplied by Russia at G20. It is not yet clear who really directed the Paris attack, but it could have been a mother of all blow-backs: the French and the Belgian (French-speaking) officers trained terrorists in their former colonies, which later did attack the capital.

    Alternatively, the Paris attack could have been a part of a plan to introduce marshal law into France and Belgium, countries whose economies are in the dump and swamped by Muslim refugees. The Syrian passport found next to one of the attackers who "blew himself up" was either carried by this attacker on an order or was planted there by those who organized the attack.

    I am pretty sure that, once the dust clears, we will have a better idea what really happened in Paris, or rather who happened in Paris.

    Yeah, very grateful for this “accidental” outcome. I doubt that the Republicans would have used Abaaoud’s case for any political gain, because it would have exposed the US complicity with non “moderate” terrorists, which is a big no-no even during the dirty US Presidential Race.

    Yeah, I always thought it was weird that the GOP and Fox News hyped Benghazi, since they are neocon bitches who supported the “rebels” to take down Assad. They still do, except for Trump, Paul, and a few paleocon others in Congress. Benghazi was an operation to funnel arms to the jihadists. Thanks all you American mercenaries involved in this operation, who Fox News celebrates because they think it makes Hillary look bad.

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    Yeah, Hillary needs little to no help to looks bad all on her own:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/08/09/hillary-clinton-in-four-short-paragraphs/

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  9. Rehmat says:

    I pity Peter Lee for living in ‘self-denial’ to save his career. Paris terrorism was neither made in Libya or Syria – because both countries didn’t benefit from it. The only entity which, like 9/11 and 7/7, benefitted from Paris terror is Israel.

    Let us not forget, it was Paris that hosted first anti-Assad conference on July 4, 2011.

    It was French Jewish political activist, Bernard-Henri Levy, who told French Jewish Lobby (CRIF) meeting that Libya had to be destroyed because Qaddafi became a threat to Israel.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/11/06/libya-a-muslim-nation-destroyed-for-israel-and-greed/

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    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
    nah, he just doesn't point fingers without more detailed info. everything he writes, he backs it up. if he can't he doesn't write about it. peter presents very convincing articles.
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  10. @Anonymous

    Yeah, very grateful for this “accidental” outcome. I doubt that the Republicans would have used Abaaoud’s case for any political gain, because it would have exposed the US complicity with non “moderate” terrorists, which is a big no-no even during the dirty US Presidential Race.
     
    Yeah, I always thought it was weird that the GOP and Fox News hyped Benghazi, since they are neocon bitches who supported the "rebels" to take down Assad. They still do, except for Trump, Paul, and a few paleocon others in Congress. Benghazi was an operation to funnel arms to the jihadists. Thanks all you American mercenaries involved in this operation, who Fox News celebrates because they think it makes Hillary look bad.

    Yeah, Hillary needs little to no help to looks bad all on her own:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/08/09/hillary-clinton-in-four-short-paragraphs/

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  11. @Rehmat
    I pity Peter Lee for living in 'self-denial' to save his career. Paris terrorism was neither made in Libya or Syria - because both countries didn't benefit from it. The only entity which, like 9/11 and 7/7, benefitted from Paris terror is Israel.

    Let us not forget, it was Paris that hosted first anti-Assad conference on July 4, 2011.

    It was French Jewish political activist, Bernard-Henri Levy, who told French Jewish Lobby (CRIF) meeting that Libya had to be destroyed because Qaddafi became a threat to Israel.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/11/06/libya-a-muslim-nation-destroyed-for-israel-and-greed/

    nah, he just doesn’t point fingers without more detailed info. everything he writes, he backs it up. if he can’t he doesn’t write about it. peter presents very convincing articles.

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    I'm willing to take your word if you can prove that you're Peter's female private secretary.
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  12. Vendetta says:

    When Germany invaded the Soviet Union, Stalin spent hour after hour after hour refusing to acknowledge that the invasion was real and give any orders to resist.

    You know what he probably spent the whole time thinking? “Cui bono? Cui bono? Cui bono?”

    The obvious answer as to who benefitted was Great Britain, which got the brunt of Nazi Germany’s war effort taken off itself and aimed at the Soviet Union.

    Stalin refused to accept any of the warning signs that were seen of the German buildup and impending attack because he was convinced the capitalist Western powers were trying to trick him and Hitler into fighting an unnecessary war against one another and wiping each other out.

    The invasion was real though, and it was all Hitler’s idea.

    Relying on “Cui Bono?” alone to understand the world will make you screw up every once in a while.

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    Actually, Cui Boner would have made good sense in Hitler's attack on Russia.

    Hitler wanted lots of territory, and he hungered for Russian lands.

    So, the attack itself wasn't irrational in terms of Nazi agenda. It turned out to be reckless in terms of possibility as Germans couldn't win in the end.

    As for the recent mess, it's really a matter of Juif Bono.

    Jews messed up the Middle East to increase Jewish-Zionist power by weakening the raggers.
    , @SolontoCroesus

    he was convinced the capitalist Western powers were trying to trick him and Hitler into fighting an unnecessary war against one another and wiping each other out.
     
    not an unreasonable surmise since Woodrow Wilson had already tried to destroy Bolshevism in 1918, and since Herbert Hoover was telling every Western European diplomate and pol he could corner that Hitler had no designs of W. Europe, he just wanted to destroy Bolshevism.

    (Pleeez don't raise the lebensraum plan: Yes, Germany's government wanted more land, fertile land in the east, beyond the reach of the British so that Germany would never again be starved into submission. General Plan Ost was a Think Tank product that had been kicked around for years pre-Hitler. http://self.gutenberg.org/articles/Generalplan_Ost iirc Hitler said that implementation of massive colonization in the East was not among the primary objectives of the NSDAP and was back burnered.

    Also not unreasonable that Hitler & NSDAP wanted to destroy Bolshevism since Bolsheviks had been invading, infiltrating Germany, creating "ISIS kills 129 in Paris" events in Germany in the Weimar period, with mobs & riots erupting when unemployed, disaffected but not disarmed freikorps confronted mischief-making Communist infiltrators under the direction of Kamanov & Zinoviev, etc. The German people wanted a return to peace and order, and a halt to illegal immigration into Germany of hordes fleeing Russia and Poland. See for example

    "Dr. Luther described the misery of German students who had to wait for years after graduating in order to obtain positions in the professions. Even before the War, he said, the legal and medical professions in Berlin, Frankfurt and other large cities were almost monopolized by certain people whose activities the German people could not consider as German.

    After the War, came the influx of East European Jews, he declared. Because of Germany’s political prostration, there was no means of excluding undesirable immigrants such as other nations had. Before the War, he said, anti-Semitism in Germany had no political importance. Later, this inclination against the elements which had a leading role in Marxist stories contributed greatly to the embitterment of the people.

    Dr. Luther asked newspapermen present not to forget that of 1,700 Jewish lawyers in Berlin, 1,200 had been considered worthy of being readmitted to practice. The measures against the Jews, he asserted, were taken only that those Jews who are alien to the German nation, should not continue any longer in important judicial and administrative posts." [that is, NSDAP made rules to kick out traitors and infiltrators. What a concept.] http://www.jta.org/1933/05/26/archive/nazi-jewish-policies-political-not-religious-dr-luther-asserts
     
    Sound like the debate in USA over admitting Syrian refugees? Or illegal immigrants over US southern borders?
    The difference Germany then and USA now is that NSDAP took measured legislative steps to resolve the situation non-violently and with sensitivity to the native Jewish population in Germany. Moreover, those German Jews were supportive of NSDAP measures and pleaded with zionist organizations to stop provoking Germany, i.e. with the Jewish boycott of Germany and with the numerous public rallies and mock trials geared to incite hatred of Germany/Germans in the same post-Weimar era when NSDAP was struggling -- and succeeding -- in correcting the economic and employment situation of Germans in order to establish order and thereby defuse popular resentment of Jewish immigrants which, according to Breitman and Lichtman, the NSDAP accomplished, from the time that NSDAP consolidated power until at least the provocation of the assassination of Ernst vom Rath in Nov. 1938 by a Polish Jew.

    The invasion was real though, and it was all Hitler’s idea.
     
    It's true that Hitler was intent on crushing Bolshevism, but it wasn't all Hitler's idea: every president since Wilson and including Reagan and George H W Bush had been intent on crushing Russian Bolshevism.
    As you may recall, in a case of he was For it before he was Against it, so was Churchill eager to crush Bolshevism.

    Finally, Viktor Suvarov makes a compelling case that after Stalin reassessed his strategy, it may have been the case that some of his actions were feints to draw in Germany; and that Russian troops massed on the border were preparing for an offensive challenge to Germany and Europe that Hitler and NSDAP partially succeeded in deflecting -- partial inasmuch as Stalin's forces conquered the Wehrmacht--something Allied ground forces were unable to accomplish-- and plundered Germany & German womanhood, but did not lay waste to the rest of W. Europe.
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  13. bunga says:
    @Kiza

    I am sure that Hillary Clinton is grateful to the French police for botching the raid to capture Abaaoud and pumped 5000 rounds into his apartment instead of capturing him; otherwise, he might have become a live topic of interest and curiosity
     
    Yeah, very grateful for this "accidental" outcome. I doubt that the Republicans would have used Abaaoud's case for any political gain, because it would have exposed the US complicity with non "moderate" terrorists, which is a big no-no even during the dirty US Presidential Race.

    What is missing from this Peter's reliable expose? Peter rightly points out the Belgian connection to Libya as the source of Paris terrorist attack. But he misses one very important point. The US was complicit and helpful to ISIS - it supplied weapons and protection to ISIS' oil smuggling to Turkey (operated by Erdogan's son). But it was the French and Belgian military officers who directly trained ISIS fighters to bring down Gaddafi and later Assad. This appears to have been detailed in the documents supplied by Russia at G20. It is not yet clear who really directed the Paris attack, but it could have been a mother of all blow-backs: the French and the Belgian (French-speaking) officers trained terrorists in their former colonies, which later did attack the capital.

    Alternatively, the Paris attack could have been a part of a plan to introduce marshal law into France and Belgium, countries whose economies are in the dump and swamped by Muslim refugees. The Syrian passport found next to one of the attackers who "blew himself up" was either carried by this attacker on an order or was planted there by those who organized the attack.

    I am pretty sure that, once the dust clears, we will have a better idea what really happened in Paris, or rather who happened in Paris.

    Eisenhpwer wrote in his diary ” Most of these were covert operations” by CIA in collusion with presidential office and the defense i.e Iran,Guatemla, Cuba ,Dominican republic , Rendition, Brain research in clandestine research sites, psychiatric tretament to make people confess or become zombie, bringing Nazis back to US universities / spy agenies , putting right wing in charge in European Goverenment , LSD exposure,spread of anhrax to civilians ,enocuraging or cauisng suicides and much more
    It was done to keep Congress out of the picture .

    This “diary” did not come to light until 2009 when it was declassified.

    It will take another 50 yrs to find out what we need to know now about the post 911 world

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    here is an astonishing story of the US arming Al Qaeda

    "In January, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report on the assault by a local militia in September 2012 on the American consulate and a nearby undercover CIA facility in Benghazi, which resulted in the death of the US ambassador, Christopher Stevens, and three others.... A highly classified annex to the report, not made public, described a secret agreement reached in early 2012 between the Obama and Erdoğan administrations... the CIA, with the support of MI6 [the British intelligence agency], was responsible for getting arms from Gaddafi’s arsenals into Syria. A number of front companies were set up in Libya, some under the cover of Australian entities. Retired American soldiers, who didn’t always know who was really employing them, were hired to manage procurement and shipping. The operation was run by David Petraeus, the CIA director who would soon resign when it became known he was having an affair with his biographer." http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/04/real-benghazi-story.html

    Sounds like a high treason
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  14. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says: • Website

    Actually made in NY, SF, LA, DC, Tel Aviv, London, and all the other centers of Jewish power.

    Western foreign policy caused this mess, and guess who control US foreign policy?

    It ain’t Mexican-Americans.

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  15. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says: • Website
    @Vendetta
    When Germany invaded the Soviet Union, Stalin spent hour after hour after hour refusing to acknowledge that the invasion was real and give any orders to resist.

    You know what he probably spent the whole time thinking? "Cui bono? Cui bono? Cui bono?"

    The obvious answer as to who benefitted was Great Britain, which got the brunt of Nazi Germany's war effort taken off itself and aimed at the Soviet Union.

    Stalin refused to accept any of the warning signs that were seen of the German buildup and impending attack because he was convinced the capitalist Western powers were trying to trick him and Hitler into fighting an unnecessary war against one another and wiping each other out.

    The invasion was real though, and it was all Hitler's idea.

    Relying on "Cui Bono?" alone to understand the world will make you screw up every once in a while.

    Actually, Cui Boner would have made good sense in Hitler’s attack on Russia.

    Hitler wanted lots of territory, and he hungered for Russian lands.

    So, the attack itself wasn’t irrational in terms of Nazi agenda. It turned out to be reckless in terms of possibility as Germans couldn’t win in the end.

    As for the recent mess, it’s really a matter of Juif Bono.

    Jews messed up the Middle East to increase Jewish-Zionist power by weakening the raggers.

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  16. Kiza says:

    I do not see a direct Israeli or even the French CRIF involvement in organising the Paris attack. The Paris attack, so far, k looks like a French/Belgian (Valon) internal thing.

    The Western countries work together on creating civil war/terrorism, but there is still a “division of labor”. Whilst the US was responsible for supplying weapons to ISIS, Al Nusra etc, it was the two French speaking countries which handled the local “human resources”, due to language and cultural reasons. For example, ambassador Stevens got killed during a weapons transfer operation from Lybia to Sirya.

    It is an interesting similarity between the fates of bin Laden and Abaaoud. The terrorist assets never get to tell their story.

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    Sorry, let me correct myself - I do not see yet the Zionist involvement in the Paris attack. It may as well have been CRIF (French AIPAC) running the macabre show in France, because it dominates both the political and the military establishment in France. It may have been CRIF which organised the training of terrorists by the French and the Belgian military and it may have even been CRIF which sent those terror assets to do carnage in Paris.

    Trained terrorists, as human assets, can be sent to do foreign jobs, or they can be used for internal political purposes. The Paris terrorists were all French speaking, thus the French-Belgian connection that Peter mentions.

    All that I am saying is that I have not seen a clear involvement of the Zionists in the Paris attack, because some commentators here draw the Zionist out as "the usual suspects". Let us wait and see in whose favor the situation develops - then we know that this group is pulling the strings and stood behind the Paris attack.

    , @annamaria
    "Democrats and Republicans alike have been using Benghazi as the center of U.S. efforts to arm the Al Qaeda-affiliated Syrian rebels. Specifically, the U.S. supported opposition which overthrew Libya’s Gadaffi was largely comprised of Al Qaeda terrorists...
    According to a 2007 report by West Point’s Combating Terrorism Center’s center, the Libyan city of Benghazi was one of Al Qaeda’s main headquarters – and bases for sending Al Qaeda fighters into Iraq – prior to the overthrow of Gaddafi....
    Mainstream sources also confirm that the Syrian opposition is largely comprised of Al Qaeda terrorists. (Indeed, the New York Times reported last week that virtually all of the rebel fighters are Al Qaeda terrorists.)
    The U.S. has been arming the Syrian opposition since 2006. The post-Gaddafi Libyan government is also itself a top funder and arms supplier of the Syrian opposition."
    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/its-dishonest-to-talk-about-benghazi-without-talking-about-the-syrian-war.html

    Here is a big Q: The "U.S. supported opposition which overthrew Libya’s Gadaffi was largely comprised of Al Qaeda terrorists." Why did the US support Al Qaeda? What then the $2 trillion of the US taxpayers money have been spent for? - To arm the opposite side of the US' "war on terror" and to pay the arm manufacturers for arming the Al Qaeda?
    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/04/real-benghazi-story.html
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  17. “Paris: Made in Libya, Not Syria”

    so the people we bombed into the stone age in Libya did it and not the people we bombed into the stone age in Syria.

    okay so now what?

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  18. Rehmat says:
    @Astuteobservor II
    nah, he just doesn't point fingers without more detailed info. everything he writes, he backs it up. if he can't he doesn't write about it. peter presents very convincing articles.

    I’m willing to take your word if you can prove that you’re Peter’s female private secretary.

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    hahaha :P just a fan of his work :)
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  19. Kiza says:
    @Kiza
    I do not see a direct Israeli or even the French CRIF involvement in organising the Paris attack. The Paris attack, so far, k looks like a French/Belgian (Valon) internal thing.

    The Western countries work together on creating civil war/terrorism, but there is still a "division of labor". Whilst the US was responsible for supplying weapons to ISIS, Al Nusra etc, it was the two French speaking countries which handled the local "human resources", due to language and cultural reasons. For example, ambassador Stevens got killed during a weapons transfer operation from Lybia to Sirya.

    It is an interesting similarity between the fates of bin Laden and Abaaoud. The terrorist assets never get to tell their story.

    Sorry, let me correct myself – I do not see yet the Zionist involvement in the Paris attack. It may as well have been CRIF (French AIPAC) running the macabre show in France, because it dominates both the political and the military establishment in France. It may have been CRIF which organised the training of terrorists by the French and the Belgian military and it may have even been CRIF which sent those terror assets to do carnage in Paris.

    Trained terrorists, as human assets, can be sent to do foreign jobs, or they can be used for internal political purposes. The Paris terrorists were all French speaking, thus the French-Belgian connection that Peter mentions.

    All that I am saying is that I have not seen a clear involvement of the Zionists in the Paris attack, because some commentators here draw the Zionist out as “the usual suspects”. Let us wait and see in whose favor the situation develops – then we know that this group is pulling the strings and stood behind the Paris attack.

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  20. @Vendetta
    When Germany invaded the Soviet Union, Stalin spent hour after hour after hour refusing to acknowledge that the invasion was real and give any orders to resist.

    You know what he probably spent the whole time thinking? "Cui bono? Cui bono? Cui bono?"

    The obvious answer as to who benefitted was Great Britain, which got the brunt of Nazi Germany's war effort taken off itself and aimed at the Soviet Union.

    Stalin refused to accept any of the warning signs that were seen of the German buildup and impending attack because he was convinced the capitalist Western powers were trying to trick him and Hitler into fighting an unnecessary war against one another and wiping each other out.

    The invasion was real though, and it was all Hitler's idea.

    Relying on "Cui Bono?" alone to understand the world will make you screw up every once in a while.

    he was convinced the capitalist Western powers were trying to trick him and Hitler into fighting an unnecessary war against one another and wiping each other out.

    not an unreasonable surmise since Woodrow Wilson had already tried to destroy Bolshevism in 1918, and since Herbert Hoover was telling every Western European diplomate and pol he could corner that Hitler had no designs of W. Europe, he just wanted to destroy Bolshevism.

    (Pleeez don’t raise the lebensraum plan: Yes, Germany’s government wanted more land, fertile land in the east, beyond the reach of the British so that Germany would never again be starved into submission. General Plan Ost was a Think Tank product that had been kicked around for years pre-Hitler. http://self.gutenberg.org/articles/Generalplan_Ost iirc Hitler said that implementation of massive colonization in the East was not among the primary objectives of the NSDAP and was back burnered.

    Also not unreasonable that Hitler & NSDAP wanted to destroy Bolshevism since Bolsheviks had been invading, infiltrating Germany, creating “ISIS kills 129 in Paris” events in Germany in the Weimar period, with mobs & riots erupting when unemployed, disaffected but not disarmed freikorps confronted mischief-making Communist infiltrators under the direction of Kamanov & Zinoviev, etc. The German people wanted a return to peace and order, and a halt to illegal immigration into Germany of hordes fleeing Russia and Poland. See for example

    “Dr. Luther described the misery of German students who had to wait for years after graduating in order to obtain positions in the professions. Even before the War, he said, the legal and medical professions in Berlin, Frankfurt and other large cities were almost monopolized by certain people whose activities the German people could not consider as German.

    After the War, came the influx of East European Jews, he declared. Because of Germany’s political prostration, there was no means of excluding undesirable immigrants such as other nations had. Before the War, he said, anti-Semitism in Germany had no political importance. Later, this inclination against the elements which had a leading role in Marxist stories contributed greatly to the embitterment of the people.

    Dr. Luther asked newspapermen present not to forget that of 1,700 Jewish lawyers in Berlin, 1,200 had been considered worthy of being readmitted to practice. The measures against the Jews, he asserted, were taken only that those Jews who are alien to the German nation, should not continue any longer in important judicial and administrative posts.” [that is, NSDAP made rules to kick out traitors and infiltrators. What a concept.] http://www.jta.org/1933/05/26/archive/nazi-jewish-policies-political-not-religious-dr-luther-asserts

    Sound like the debate in USA over admitting Syrian refugees? Or illegal immigrants over US southern borders?
    The difference Germany then and USA now is that NSDAP took measured legislative steps to resolve the situation non-violently and with sensitivity to the native Jewish population in Germany. Moreover, those German Jews were supportive of NSDAP measures and pleaded with zionist organizations to stop provoking Germany, i.e. with the Jewish boycott of Germany and with the numerous public rallies and mock trials geared to incite hatred of Germany/Germans in the same post-Weimar era when NSDAP was struggling — and succeeding — in correcting the economic and employment situation of Germans in order to establish order and thereby defuse popular resentment of Jewish immigrants which, according to Breitman and Lichtman, the NSDAP accomplished, from the time that NSDAP consolidated power until at least the provocation of the assassination of Ernst vom Rath in Nov. 1938 by a Polish Jew.

    The invasion was real though, and it was all Hitler’s idea.

    It’s true that Hitler was intent on crushing Bolshevism, but it wasn’t all Hitler’s idea: every president since Wilson and including Reagan and George H W Bush had been intent on crushing Russian Bolshevism.
    As you may recall, in a case of he was For it before he was Against it, so was Churchill eager to crush Bolshevism.

    Finally, Viktor Suvarov makes a compelling case that after Stalin reassessed his strategy, it may have been the case that some of his actions were feints to draw in Germany; and that Russian troops massed on the border were preparing for an offensive challenge to Germany and Europe that Hitler and NSDAP partially succeeded in deflecting — partial inasmuch as Stalin’s forces conquered the Wehrmacht–something Allied ground forces were unable to accomplish– and plundered Germany & German womanhood, but did not lay waste to the rest of W. Europe.

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    edit:

    this paragraph:

    It’s true that Hitler was intent on crushing Bolshevism, but it wasn’t all Hitler’s idea: every president since Wilson and including Reagan and George H W Bush had been intent on crushing Russian Bolshevism.

    should read:

    . . .Except for FDR, every president since Wilson and including Reagan and George H W Bush had been intent on crushing Russian Bolshevism.
    , @TomSchmidt
    Fascinating read, thank you. NSDAP as anti-Eastern-European Jews. I always wondered about the Jew in Dresden with the fascinating WW2 diary: why was he not put into a camp? Your theory helps explain that.
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  21. annamaria says:
    @Kiza
    I do not see a direct Israeli or even the French CRIF involvement in organising the Paris attack. The Paris attack, so far, k looks like a French/Belgian (Valon) internal thing.

    The Western countries work together on creating civil war/terrorism, but there is still a "division of labor". Whilst the US was responsible for supplying weapons to ISIS, Al Nusra etc, it was the two French speaking countries which handled the local "human resources", due to language and cultural reasons. For example, ambassador Stevens got killed during a weapons transfer operation from Lybia to Sirya.

    It is an interesting similarity between the fates of bin Laden and Abaaoud. The terrorist assets never get to tell their story.

    “Democrats and Republicans alike have been using Benghazi as the center of U.S. efforts to arm the Al Qaeda-affiliated Syrian rebels. Specifically, the U.S. supported opposition which overthrew Libya’s Gadaffi was largely comprised of Al Qaeda terrorists…
    According to a 2007 report by West Point’s Combating Terrorism Center’s center, the Libyan city of Benghazi was one of Al Qaeda’s main headquarters – and bases for sending Al Qaeda fighters into Iraq – prior to the overthrow of Gaddafi….
    Mainstream sources also confirm that the Syrian opposition is largely comprised of Al Qaeda terrorists. (Indeed, the New York Times reported last week that virtually all of the rebel fighters are Al Qaeda terrorists.)
    The U.S. has been arming the Syrian opposition since 2006. The post-Gaddafi Libyan government is also itself a top funder and arms supplier of the Syrian opposition.”

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/its-dishonest-to-talk-about-benghazi-without-talking-about-the-syrian-war.html

    Here is a big Q: The “U.S. supported opposition which overthrew Libya’s Gadaffi was largely comprised of Al Qaeda terrorists.” Why did the US support Al Qaeda? What then the $2 trillion of the US taxpayers money have been spent for? – To arm the opposite side of the US’ “war on terror” and to pay the arm manufacturers for arming the Al Qaeda?

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/04/real-benghazi-story.html

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    he was convinced the capitalist Western powers were trying to trick him and Hitler into fighting an unnecessary war against one another and wiping each other out.
     
    not an unreasonable surmise since Woodrow Wilson had already tried to destroy Bolshevism in 1918, and since Herbert Hoover was telling every Western European diplomate and pol he could corner that Hitler had no designs of W. Europe, he just wanted to destroy Bolshevism.

    (Pleeez don't raise the lebensraum plan: Yes, Germany's government wanted more land, fertile land in the east, beyond the reach of the British so that Germany would never again be starved into submission. General Plan Ost was a Think Tank product that had been kicked around for years pre-Hitler. http://self.gutenberg.org/articles/Generalplan_Ost iirc Hitler said that implementation of massive colonization in the East was not among the primary objectives of the NSDAP and was back burnered.

    Also not unreasonable that Hitler & NSDAP wanted to destroy Bolshevism since Bolsheviks had been invading, infiltrating Germany, creating "ISIS kills 129 in Paris" events in Germany in the Weimar period, with mobs & riots erupting when unemployed, disaffected but not disarmed freikorps confronted mischief-making Communist infiltrators under the direction of Kamanov & Zinoviev, etc. The German people wanted a return to peace and order, and a halt to illegal immigration into Germany of hordes fleeing Russia and Poland. See for example

    "Dr. Luther described the misery of German students who had to wait for years after graduating in order to obtain positions in the professions. Even before the War, he said, the legal and medical professions in Berlin, Frankfurt and other large cities were almost monopolized by certain people whose activities the German people could not consider as German.

    After the War, came the influx of East European Jews, he declared. Because of Germany’s political prostration, there was no means of excluding undesirable immigrants such as other nations had. Before the War, he said, anti-Semitism in Germany had no political importance. Later, this inclination against the elements which had a leading role in Marxist stories contributed greatly to the embitterment of the people.

    Dr. Luther asked newspapermen present not to forget that of 1,700 Jewish lawyers in Berlin, 1,200 had been considered worthy of being readmitted to practice. The measures against the Jews, he asserted, were taken only that those Jews who are alien to the German nation, should not continue any longer in important judicial and administrative posts." [that is, NSDAP made rules to kick out traitors and infiltrators. What a concept.] http://www.jta.org/1933/05/26/archive/nazi-jewish-policies-political-not-religious-dr-luther-asserts
     
    Sound like the debate in USA over admitting Syrian refugees? Or illegal immigrants over US southern borders?
    The difference Germany then and USA now is that NSDAP took measured legislative steps to resolve the situation non-violently and with sensitivity to the native Jewish population in Germany. Moreover, those German Jews were supportive of NSDAP measures and pleaded with zionist organizations to stop provoking Germany, i.e. with the Jewish boycott of Germany and with the numerous public rallies and mock trials geared to incite hatred of Germany/Germans in the same post-Weimar era when NSDAP was struggling -- and succeeding -- in correcting the economic and employment situation of Germans in order to establish order and thereby defuse popular resentment of Jewish immigrants which, according to Breitman and Lichtman, the NSDAP accomplished, from the time that NSDAP consolidated power until at least the provocation of the assassination of Ernst vom Rath in Nov. 1938 by a Polish Jew.

    The invasion was real though, and it was all Hitler’s idea.
     
    It's true that Hitler was intent on crushing Bolshevism, but it wasn't all Hitler's idea: every president since Wilson and including Reagan and George H W Bush had been intent on crushing Russian Bolshevism.
    As you may recall, in a case of he was For it before he was Against it, so was Churchill eager to crush Bolshevism.

    Finally, Viktor Suvarov makes a compelling case that after Stalin reassessed his strategy, it may have been the case that some of his actions were feints to draw in Germany; and that Russian troops massed on the border were preparing for an offensive challenge to Germany and Europe that Hitler and NSDAP partially succeeded in deflecting -- partial inasmuch as Stalin's forces conquered the Wehrmacht--something Allied ground forces were unable to accomplish-- and plundered Germany & German womanhood, but did not lay waste to the rest of W. Europe.

    edit:

    this paragraph:

    It’s true that Hitler was intent on crushing Bolshevism, but it wasn’t all Hitler’s idea: every president since Wilson and including Reagan and George H W Bush had been intent on crushing Russian Bolshevism.

    should read:

    . . .Except for FDR, every president since Wilson and including Reagan and George H W Bush had been intent on crushing Russian Bolshevism.

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  23. annamaria says:
    @bunga
    Eisenhpwer wrote in his diary " Most of these were covert operations" by CIA in collusion with presidential office and the defense i.e Iran,Guatemla, Cuba ,Dominican republic , Rendition, Brain research in clandestine research sites, psychiatric tretament to make people confess or become zombie, bringing Nazis back to US universities / spy agenies , putting right wing in charge in European Goverenment , LSD exposure,spread of anhrax to civilians ,enocuraging or cauisng suicides and much more
    It was done to keep Congress out of the picture .

    This "diary" did not come to light until 2009 when it was declassified.

    It will take another 50 yrs to find out what we need to know now about the post 911 world

    here is an astonishing story of the US arming Al Qaeda

    “In January, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report on the assault by a local militia in September 2012 on the American consulate and a nearby undercover CIA facility in Benghazi, which resulted in the death of the US ambassador, Christopher Stevens, and three others…. A highly classified annex to the report, not made public, described a secret agreement reached in early 2012 between the Obama and Erdoğan administrations… the CIA, with the support of MI6 [the British intelligence agency], was responsible for getting arms from Gaddafi’s arsenals into Syria. A number of front companies were set up in Libya, some under the cover of Australian entities. Retired American soldiers, who didn’t always know who was really employing them, were hired to manage procurement and shipping. The operation was run by David Petraeus, the CIA director who would soon resign when it became known he was having an affair with his biographer.” http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/04/real-benghazi-story.html

    Sounds like a high treason

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  24. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Whatever Isis are doing is bad, but look at otherside what are they doing. Interfering in others business then when they get chance to hit you back then stop screaming. Because, it is your fruit you are getting from what you have sown.

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  25. @Rehmat
    I'm willing to take your word if you can prove that you're Peter's female private secretary.

    hahaha :P just a fan of his work :)

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  26. joe webb says:

    NYT today, story at bottom

    Fw: NYTimes.com: ISIS Women and Enforcers in Syria Recount Collaboration, Anguish and

    For all the false flag op true believers out there:

    Query, we used to love the old Country Joe song during the good old days of Vietnam War…”be the first one on your block to have your kid come home in a box..”… So when you blow yourself up and I suppose a few others at the same time, is there any effort made by the authorities to sort out various body parts?…For example, it is possible that heads might be somewhat intact having the smaller neck give way in the blast ,thus preserving the head. And then arms and legs might be more in tact than the torso since the bombs are attached to the torso. Tattoos or other identifying marks, and clothing might help identify the person. Fingers with rings on them might aid in identification, particularly wedding rings.

    All of these could be put in a big pickle jar, assuming that it follows Allah’s Directives,, etc. It would not matter too much if your body parts were mixed with a few of others’s body parts, but I am certain that Allah would not have male and female body parts vulgarly touching in the pickle jar. Then other considerations would be in order as well, many might question just who indeed is In that pickle jar? Maybe somebody just staged his suicide to get away from his wife, or , alternatively , her husband. Are Death Certificates issued to family members? Again…this brings up challenging questions…Are Life Insurance policiies voided or not, in the event of suicide? I mean this is not the USA which has thought this out…maybe Islamic Law has overlooked such a contingency. And what about funerals? I suppose that viewing of the deceased, like in a pickle-jar, all jambed up like those Mediterranean jars of peppers, olives, various vegetables, and maybe even pickles as well…that this might upset some folks. Of course they probably use closed coffins, and waterproof to boot, you know…various potential leaks of bodily fluids.

    Certainly, one would not hear the usual…O he looks so natural and contented….they did such a good job. boo hoo. There could be funerary options as to how the body parts are sorted out, big parts on the bottom, and little parts on the top, you know, like a kind of casserole dish, with maybe smaller pickle jars containing small bits, like fingernails, or teeth, or eyeballs. And don’t forget miscellaneous unidentifiable gobs of protoplasm, but all Equal to the task of equipping a modern human…all body parts are equal in the eyes of Allah….Give Allah a big hand…thank you, salaam, salaam, salaam . Peace be with you, and there is no God but Allah. And he is happily processing the dearly beloved and horny little guys with a cacophony of shrieks from the thousands of virgins dancing and gyrating their asses , belly dancing for for all these martyrs, now avatars but with guaranteed to function genitals…permanent hard-ons, and no End in sight.

    Joe Webb Heads up! all you false flaggers out there

    “By the time the trees blossomed that spring, it was common to see the heads of captured soldiers and people accused of treason hanging in the main square near the clock tower. But most who had stayed in Raqqa were either too afraid to rebel or had no desire to.
    Horrified, the cousins kept trying to cope, soothing themselves with the thought that, though they had joined the Organization, at least they were not personally killing anyone.
    “We saw many heads being cut off,” Dua recalled.
    “You saw the heads — it was just the heads you saw,” Aws corrected her.
    “Well, it is forbidden in Islam to mutilate bodies.”
    “I saw bodies that lay in the street for a whole week.””
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    ISIS Women and Enforcers in Syria Recount Collaboration, Anguish and Escape
    BY AZADEH MOAVENI

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  27. @SolontoCroesus

    he was convinced the capitalist Western powers were trying to trick him and Hitler into fighting an unnecessary war against one another and wiping each other out.
     
    not an unreasonable surmise since Woodrow Wilson had already tried to destroy Bolshevism in 1918, and since Herbert Hoover was telling every Western European diplomate and pol he could corner that Hitler had no designs of W. Europe, he just wanted to destroy Bolshevism.

    (Pleeez don't raise the lebensraum plan: Yes, Germany's government wanted more land, fertile land in the east, beyond the reach of the British so that Germany would never again be starved into submission. General Plan Ost was a Think Tank product that had been kicked around for years pre-Hitler. http://self.gutenberg.org/articles/Generalplan_Ost iirc Hitler said that implementation of massive colonization in the East was not among the primary objectives of the NSDAP and was back burnered.

    Also not unreasonable that Hitler & NSDAP wanted to destroy Bolshevism since Bolsheviks had been invading, infiltrating Germany, creating "ISIS kills 129 in Paris" events in Germany in the Weimar period, with mobs & riots erupting when unemployed, disaffected but not disarmed freikorps confronted mischief-making Communist infiltrators under the direction of Kamanov & Zinoviev, etc. The German people wanted a return to peace and order, and a halt to illegal immigration into Germany of hordes fleeing Russia and Poland. See for example

    "Dr. Luther described the misery of German students who had to wait for years after graduating in order to obtain positions in the professions. Even before the War, he said, the legal and medical professions in Berlin, Frankfurt and other large cities were almost monopolized by certain people whose activities the German people could not consider as German.

    After the War, came the influx of East European Jews, he declared. Because of Germany’s political prostration, there was no means of excluding undesirable immigrants such as other nations had. Before the War, he said, anti-Semitism in Germany had no political importance. Later, this inclination against the elements which had a leading role in Marxist stories contributed greatly to the embitterment of the people.

    Dr. Luther asked newspapermen present not to forget that of 1,700 Jewish lawyers in Berlin, 1,200 had been considered worthy of being readmitted to practice. The measures against the Jews, he asserted, were taken only that those Jews who are alien to the German nation, should not continue any longer in important judicial and administrative posts." [that is, NSDAP made rules to kick out traitors and infiltrators. What a concept.] http://www.jta.org/1933/05/26/archive/nazi-jewish-policies-political-not-religious-dr-luther-asserts
     
    Sound like the debate in USA over admitting Syrian refugees? Or illegal immigrants over US southern borders?
    The difference Germany then and USA now is that NSDAP took measured legislative steps to resolve the situation non-violently and with sensitivity to the native Jewish population in Germany. Moreover, those German Jews were supportive of NSDAP measures and pleaded with zionist organizations to stop provoking Germany, i.e. with the Jewish boycott of Germany and with the numerous public rallies and mock trials geared to incite hatred of Germany/Germans in the same post-Weimar era when NSDAP was struggling -- and succeeding -- in correcting the economic and employment situation of Germans in order to establish order and thereby defuse popular resentment of Jewish immigrants which, according to Breitman and Lichtman, the NSDAP accomplished, from the time that NSDAP consolidated power until at least the provocation of the assassination of Ernst vom Rath in Nov. 1938 by a Polish Jew.

    The invasion was real though, and it was all Hitler’s idea.
     
    It's true that Hitler was intent on crushing Bolshevism, but it wasn't all Hitler's idea: every president since Wilson and including Reagan and George H W Bush had been intent on crushing Russian Bolshevism.
    As you may recall, in a case of he was For it before he was Against it, so was Churchill eager to crush Bolshevism.

    Finally, Viktor Suvarov makes a compelling case that after Stalin reassessed his strategy, it may have been the case that some of his actions were feints to draw in Germany; and that Russian troops massed on the border were preparing for an offensive challenge to Germany and Europe that Hitler and NSDAP partially succeeded in deflecting -- partial inasmuch as Stalin's forces conquered the Wehrmacht--something Allied ground forces were unable to accomplish-- and plundered Germany & German womanhood, but did not lay waste to the rest of W. Europe.

    Fascinating read, thank you. NSDAP as anti-Eastern-European Jews. I always wondered about the Jew in Dresden with the fascinating WW2 diary: why was he not put into a camp? Your theory helps explain that.

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  28. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    If these were indeed Libya related terrorists that would explain why they chose Paris. France not only participated in Iraq but enthusiastically participated in the bombing of Libya……France engaged in war crimes and has financially supported these terrorists….so for Hollande to suddenly cry wolf while he himself was involved in the carpet bombing of Libya and the genocide of Libyans is the height of hypocrisy. Its the people that usually bear the brunt of flawed or illegal actions committed by their leaders. I do not mourn the Parisians more than I do those in Libya/Beirut/Syria and others elsewhere.

    Excellent article.

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  29. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says: • Website

    We need less urban planning and more Orban planning.

    No more remaking cities for ‘immigrants’ and ‘refugees’.

    Instead, the West needs more planning for families of the native population.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/11/orban-europeans-should-have-babies-not-immigrants/#comment-271026

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  30. Svigor says:

    Paris: Made in Moscow. Cui bono? Russians blow up their own airliner in Egypt, then carry out false flag Muslim jihadi terror attacks (there being no other kind) in Paris, giving Russia the excuse it needs and pushing the west to join them.

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  31. Kiza says:

    Svigor the Hasbara, as Ron Unz has written, a false flag is almost impossible without the control of the media. Does Russia control Western MSM?

    One could do a mind experiment and imagine the Russians blowing up their own airliner for some unspecified political points (the blowing up of the Russian plane was actually used by the Western MSM to attack Putin). But it is well established that it was ISIS which did it because this was used for its propaganda. What kind of control does Russia exercise over the ISIS to be able to do a false flag via ISIS?

    Paris, how could Russians organize an attack in Paris?

    But if we look at Israel, now that is a totally opposite proposition:
    1) Israel controls most Western MSM through Zionist oligarch owners.
    2) Israel has a wonderful relationship with Al Nusra and ISIS because their wounded crazies are being healed in Israeli hospitals:

    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/nov/22/sharri-markson-journalist-at-the-australian-in-run-in-with-israeli-security.

    3) Cui Bono? Israel has a very strong interest to involve Western militaries to fight the Syria war on its behalf, to divide Syria and to take Golan Heights and an even large piece of the rest of Syria.

    Therefore, one could speculate much more reliably that the Russian plane was bombed by the allies of Israel and that the Paris attack was orgnaized by the Israeli sponsors of terrorism.

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  32. geokat62 says:

    Therefore, one could speculate much more reliably that the Russian plane was bombed by the allies of Israel and that the Paris attack was orgnaized by the Israeli sponsors of terrorism.

    It looks like… two can speculate.

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    Yeah, when prompted I can analyse the other (Israeli) option.
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  33. Kiza says:
    @geokat62

    Therefore, one could speculate much more reliably that the Russian plane was bombed by the allies of Israel and that the Paris attack was orgnaized by the Israeli sponsors of terrorism.
     
    It looks like... two can speculate.

    Yeah, when prompted I can analyse the other (Israeli) option.

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  34. dahoit says:
    @Kiza

    I am sure that Hillary Clinton is grateful to the French police for botching the raid to capture Abaaoud and pumped 5000 rounds into his apartment instead of capturing him; otherwise, he might have become a live topic of interest and curiosity
     
    Yeah, very grateful for this "accidental" outcome. I doubt that the Republicans would have used Abaaoud's case for any political gain, because it would have exposed the US complicity with non "moderate" terrorists, which is a big no-no even during the dirty US Presidential Race.

    What is missing from this Peter's reliable expose? Peter rightly points out the Belgian connection to Libya as the source of Paris terrorist attack. But he misses one very important point. The US was complicit and helpful to ISIS - it supplied weapons and protection to ISIS' oil smuggling to Turkey (operated by Erdogan's son). But it was the French and Belgian military officers who directly trained ISIS fighters to bring down Gaddafi and later Assad. This appears to have been detailed in the documents supplied by Russia at G20. It is not yet clear who really directed the Paris attack, but it could have been a mother of all blow-backs: the French and the Belgian (French-speaking) officers trained terrorists in their former colonies, which later did attack the capital.

    Alternatively, the Paris attack could have been a part of a plan to introduce marshal law into France and Belgium, countries whose economies are in the dump and swamped by Muslim refugees. The Syrian passport found next to one of the attackers who "blew himself up" was either carried by this attacker on an order or was planted there by those who organized the attack.

    I am pretty sure that, once the dust clears, we will have a better idea what really happened in Paris, or rather who happened in Paris.

    Just about every suspect is snuffed.Who cares about leads to other events?Stories change daily,in every case.
    Yankee come home.

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  35. annamaria says:

    A repost of a comment on Guardian:
    “Turkey is a conduit, the Turkish presidents son is buying the oil from ISIS, just like US Vice President Joe Bidens son joined the board of Ukraines largest Gas producer after Nato expanded into the Ukraine. Was the downing of the jet by Turkey a tit for tat exercise as Russia destroyed some of the hundreds of lorry oil tankers parked up in ISIS territory heading for Turkey 6 days ago? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6oHbrF8ADs
    Theres a pattern here.
    Likewise Russia have released their version of events regarding the shot down jets route, claiming it didnt enter Turkish airspace. Whats interesting is this Russian data was released at 8pm UK time, and yet the British press are still running with the rhetoric from this morning, where at 4am UK time a Russia jet was shot down according to Reuters. So it would seem the UK press are sitting on this latest inconvenient news, perhaps trying to come up with a way to spin it or waiting for the UK Govt to advise how to spin it if its even to be mentioned so the Govt looks innocent in the eyes of the electorate. Whilst the availability of data from Turkey was very quickly made available, perhaps it was fabricated and released too quickly in order to maintain momentum with todays news agenda?
    All the while GCHQ and NSA sock puppets & other Nato countries flood various media outlets comments sections to drown out critical analysis. I wonder if I’ll be approached by more US and UK military personal “unofficially” whilst out walking the dog in Thetford forest, and be spoken to? Its interesting watching the news from other countries, certainly watching Russia Today and their spin is interesting. I can only conclude there will be another massive financial crisis coming for one or more countries, so in order to divert the masses a war is needed, as wars always boost economies.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/24/vladimir-putin-turkey-isis-terrorists-warplane-analysis#comment-63893862

    Amen

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  36. annamaria says:

    a bonus:
    “Erdogan: I can’t condemn ISIS for shooting down the Russian airplane, it’s the natural outcome of Putin’s support for Assad.” http://www.mfs-theothernews.com/2015/11/erdogan-i-cant-condemn-isis-for.html

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  37. hbm says:

    ISIS: Made in Washington, Tel Aviv, London, Paris, Riyadh.

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