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I wrote a lot in the early aughts about Jonah Goldberg’s apotheosis at National Review in the wake of William F. Buckley’s purge of immigration patriots like John O’Sullivan and VDARE.com Editor Peter Brimelow because I regarded him as a symbol and a symptom of the intellectual and moral degeneration of a magazine I once loved, and of the movement it purported to lead. Indeed, I gather that my habit of referring to the post-purge NR as “The Goldberg Review” caused Norman Podhoretz to ostracize Brimelow, once his close ally in Manhattan conservative circles, an unimaginable disaster for which I am deeply sorry. Subsequently, Goldberg apparently lost his editorship of NRO for some trivial reason of girly-boy intrigue. But Conservatism, Inc-ers never die. For his newest venture into deep thought, Goldberg has crassly stolen the title of James Burnham’s great work, Suicide of the West, published in 1964 at the height of the Cold War.

That is where the similarity ends. Unlike Burnham’s scalding indictment of liberalism as “the ideology of Western suicide,” Goldberg’s random opinions represent the very pathology that Burnham railed against. Goldberg hates national identities (although he makes an exception for Israel), opponents of the Deep State, immigration patriots, and those who imagine that democracy has something to do with the popular will. Rather his “conservative” view of democracy privileges public administration, the operation of multinational corporations, and socially sophisticated journalists such as like himself.

One need only cite this passage from Burnham’s work to grasp the extent to which Burnham might have been thinking of someone like Goldberg when he described the quintessential liberal:

“Liberalism has always stressed change, reform, the break with encrusted habit whether in the form of old ideas, old customs or old institutions. Thus liberalism has been and continues to be primarily negative in its impact on society: and in point of fact it is through its negative and destructive achievements that liberalism makes its best claim to historical justification.”

By now, however, Burnham’s Leftist hallmarks are “conservative” positions. After all, Goldberg’s book, which abounds in the Leftist virtue-signaling mandatory for Main Stream Media Token Conservatives, is being sold by “conservative” book clubs. It is also featured in a Crown Forum Series devoted to conservative thought (whose editor pointedly refused to correspond with me about a book proposal).

For those who may doubt whether the author is an authorized “conservative,” one need only turn to National Review, a publication at which Goldberg still holds an editorship, or else watch him jaw with other Fox News Allstars as a designated Man Of The Right.

I regard Goldberg as a prime example of the near-total ideological primacy of the Cultural Marxist Left. We are living in a time and place in which what would be crazy-Left up until about two generations ago is assigned a “Right-Wing” label, in order to keep alive a dialectic that is transparently phony.

In about a ten-page digression into the nature of conservatism—his entire book is really nothing more than a series of digressions—Goldberg identifies “conservatism” with resisting Donald Trump. The U.S. President, whom Goldberg with other Never-Trumpers has inflexibly opposed, is described as a vulgar throwback to the 1930s “on both sides of the Atlantic.” People back then (let’s guess who they were!) believed “decadent Western capitalism and ‘Manchester liberalism’ were inadequate to the challenges of the day.”

All of this coming from Goldberg is utter chutzpah, considering that he now happily accepts massive social engineering in order to overcome “discrimination” against certain groups.

His version of Suicide Of The West indicts—in what by now is neoconservative ritual—Bismarck, the Prussian state and the administrative model of late nineteenth century Germany. All these pernicious forces allegedly laid the conceptual foundations of American managerial democracy.

But in fact this development was by no means due mostly to malignant Germans. Parallel developments took place at about the same time in most Western states that had introduced universal suffrage and in which the populace as well as political elites believed in a “science” of administration.

If Goldberg had deigned to read my work on the subject (which I wouldn’t expect him to given my unpopularity among his employers), he might have understood how widespread the growth of the democratic administrative state was in the decade before the First World War. Curiously some of the most zealous supporters of an expanded American welfare state, like Herbert Croly, Thorstein Veblen, and (after a youthful infatuation with Hegel) John Dewey, were by 1914 rabidly anti-German. In a heavily-researched study “World War One as Fulfilment: Power and Intellectuals,” Murray Rothbard showed how Anglo-American progressives presented World War One as a struggle between their Social Democratic project and German authoritarians who only pretended to believe in the same ideal.

Although Goldberg deplores the beginnings of our Administrative State, he has no trouble supporting some of its recent expansions. For example, he offers these impromptu opinions after telling us how thoroughly wicked the creators of the welfare state were:

Freed slaves certainly did deserve forty acres and mule (at least!), as many post-Civil War Radical Republicans proposed. Similarly, the early affirmative action programs targeted specifically to blacks in the wake of the Civil Rights Acts have intellectual and moral merit.

This kind of inconsistency runs through Goldberg’s tome. Although he vehemently objects to America’s early welfare state, later broad government interventions intended to overcome “discrimination” are perfectly fine with him. And, of course, Goldberg joins the post-Civil War Radical Republicans in calling for punishing Southern whites during Reconstruction by taking away their property and giving it to blacks.

Goldberg grovels shamelessly whenever he turns to racial problems in the US. In contrast to the traditional Right, Political Correctness is OK with him, providing it doesn’t get too nasty—and It’s not quite clear at what point he would admit that occurs:

At its best, PC is a way to show respect to people. If black people don’t want to be called “Negroes,” it is only right and proper to respect that desire. If Asians object to “Oriental,” lexicological arguments can’t change the fact that it is rude not to oblige them.

But what if (when) Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or some other Civil Rights leader decides he doesn’t want people of color to be called “black” any longer because he finds it demeaning? Are we required to go on changing the name of a particular group that enjoys a high victim profile in order to show appropriate “respect”?

And why are certain other groups, like Southern white Christians and those who want to preserve ancestral monuments that the Left and (now) National Review don’t happen to like, not to be accorded the same sensitivity to group feeling?

Because in Goldberg’s eyes they’re not Left-certified victims that professional Token Conservatives know they must acknowledge.

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Thus Goldberg predictably goes berserk attacking the opponents of Brexit, the supporters of the National Front in France, and “the story of Donald Trump’s victory” as part of a “new global crusade against ‘globalism.’ “Those who participate in this neo-Nazi enterprise are supposedly undermining democracy, like those Hungarians who overwhelmingly endorse what George Will has proclaimed an “essentially fascist government” in Budapest. [ George Will: What artifacts from Nazi murder machinery can teach the U.S. and the world now, MercuryNews, April 26, 2018]

What this means: democracy can only survive if citizens vote for neocon-approved candidates. Otherwise, assuming Will is correct, “Anti-Semitism” will be “coming out of the closet.”

I am intrigued how often Goldberg, who is essentially recycling conventional views interspersed with chunks of history that seem to have been extracted from a high school survey, uses the phrase “I tend to believe…”

Although he clearly shows no trace of research curiosity, he may have no professional reason to do so. And so he can get away with idiocies like this one:

I tend to believe that high levels of immigration, particularly skills-based immigration, are economically desirable policies. Also, the evidence that low-skilled immigration is a net detriment to the country is not as cut-and-dried as some claim. (The field of economics that studies immigration is shot through with methodological and ideological problems.)

Really! Are there no reliable studies (I’ve seen dozens of them) that show that low-skilled immigration impacts negatively on low-income earners in the US? And can’t most high-skilled positions that are available in the US be filled by those who are already here?

Not surprisingly what Goldberg “tends to believe” corresponds to the inclinations of the Koch brothers, Paul Singer and other patrons of National Review. (Full disclosure: I’m putting together an anthology om the funding sources of Conservatism, Inc.)

Goldberg inserts silly complaints about how academic Leftists diss him and his pals from National Review, like Kevin Williamson, when they pop up at universities to speak on “conservative” issues. (I note he did not condemn the disruption of my own recent lecture at Hamilton College.)

Personally, I can’t imagine what “conservative” teaching Goldberg could possibly convey during his sojourn in academe. His book conspicuously avoids taking hard conservative stands on anything. When he complains about the breakdown of marriage, he noticeably stays away from gay marriage, which he has already praised as a good thing. [A banner day for gay marriage on the right, By Jennifer Rubin, Washington Post, March 15, 2013] Instead Goldberg blandly chides those who live in “open marriages” and coyly alludes to his own marital bliss—as the husband of Nikki Haley’s speechwriter, Jessica Gavora. [Why Is Nikki Haley Still Trump’s UN Ambassador?, by Philip Giraldi, American Conservative, July 7, 2017]

In the acknowledgements he lists Jessica as his “best confidante, friend, and partner.” Perhaps it is this “partner” whom we should blame for Jonah’s egregious book of opinions and recycled historical platitudes.

A friend has described Goldberg’s enviable career as the “curse” inflicted on us because his mother Lucianne (of Lucianne.com) betrayed the trust of Monica Lewinsky and ratted out Monica’s secret affair with Bill Clinton to Republican operatives. Because of this betrayal, Lucianne’s self-important son was launched on a legacy path as a “conservative” luminary, the end of which is not yet in sight.

But this curse has not worked the same way as the fate that befell the subjects of Greek tragedies or those who sinned in Hebrew Scripture. There, the offenders and their descendants suffered the consequences of evil acts. Here the son of the betrayer of confidences is lavishly rewarded, as the beneficiary of his mother’s act, and the rest of us are made to endure his insufferable presence.

The older idea made much better sense.

Paul Gottfried [ email him ] is a retired Professor of Humanities at Elizabethtown College, PA. He is the author of Multiculturalism and the Politics of Guilt and The Strange Death of Marxism His most recent book isLeo Strauss and the Conservative Movement in America.

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  1. Ethan says:

    “Thus Goldberg predictably goes berserk attacking the opponents of Brexit, the supporters of the National Front in France, and “the story of Donald Trump’s victory” as part of a “new global crusade against ‘globalism.’”

    Did you mean supporters of Brexit?

    • Replies: @Anon
  2. A schlemiel neocon (Gottfried) is kvetching about a schlimazel neocon (Goldberg). These two schmucks are flip sides of the same shekel. Neither is a conservative. They are first and forever members of the “tribe” and will scribble whatever they have to to stay relevant. They are not and have never been for the West. The West is not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim. It’s time for them to make aliyah.

    Here is what Gottfried thinks of Midwestern traditionalists. http://takimag.com/article/encountering_gottfried/print#axzz5DhUS4uGx

    Goldberg has been a little smarter about what he really thinks.

  3. Sean says:

    The state versus the nation is the conflict that is behind “globalism”.

    I tend to believe that high levels of immigration, particularly skills-based immigration, are economically desirable policies. Also, the evidence that low-skilled immigration is a net detriment to the country is not as cut-and-dried as some claim

    That is probably true, if by “country” one means state and not the shared-descent population who make up the majority of the nation. The modern factory system had problems before the introduction of an unending supply of immigrant workers saved business from organised labour. But you cannot erode the nation beyond a certain point, one which has been reached across much of the West

    Goldberg identifies “conservatism” with resisting Donald Trump

    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/05/wrecking-politicized-israel/
    This spring both wings of the Israel lobby, AIPAC on the right and J Street on the left, vowed that support for Israel must stay bipartisan. Trump’s Iran destruction has ended any hope that the two sides can stay synchronized. AIPAC is now making nice to Trump even as J Street is pledging resistance.

    Resistance means calling out Netanyahu and his neoconservative allies. [...] Resisting Trump means resisting Israel.

    The careericide of the Goldberg.

    • Replies: @SMK
  4. @attilathehen

    Paul Gottfried is not a Neocon in any manner, as his biography of Leo Strauss makes plain. If you are going to claim something about a writer, at least read his work and criticize what he actually writes. You fail to do so.
    His comments about Midwesterners are as follows.

    However perverse in their political judgments these critics may be, they are right about the ignorance and gullibility of heartland Americans.

    From my own personal experience, this I have found to be generally true. I think most commenters would agree. Sadly, it is one of the main reasons White America is in its present mess.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @Anon
  5. @Verymuchalive

    This is changing. Caucasian Christians have woken up and the times are changing. Trump’s election is a part of this. The RCC and Zioevangizers have been exposed. As to Gottfried, his tribe is a miscegenated, meshuggah melange which contributed nothing to the West’s development. He has some intelligence, but his scribblings are nothing special. He is critiquing a culture that is not his. When, not if, push comes to shove, he will side with the black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim side. Goldberg will do the same. It is up to cucks to take back the West.

  6. MarkinLA says:
    @attilathehen

    Have they? Gottfried was talking mostly about how easily duped by symbolism or “patriotism” these people are. There is no finer example than John (“I’ll build the damn wall already” in 2010) McCain easily winning the primary in 2016 against Kelli Ward even though he told his critics that mentioned his lies by telling them to run against him.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  7. @MarkinLA

    Trump’s election is the biggest sign. Trump has not built the wall, and he will be held accountable for this. The tide has turned. McCain is no longer relevant. We need to get of Lindsay Graham. I did get upset with voters who continuously voted for these two, but the Zioevangizers played a big role in these elections. Fortunately, the RCC and Zioevangizer churches are collapsing. We are living in the most fascinating time ever. The RCC is destroying the West so a new church will be needed. Cuck pope Frannie is hinting at retiring. His has failed at his assignment of using the papacy for a one world/one church government. The USA RCC has lost all credibility because of its support for illegal immigration to fill its pews. The Zioevangizers’s Jewish obsession is now ending as more people are challenging their crazy theology. IQ and its relation to race are being discussed more. Now that Israel is the homeland for all Jews, the West must fight for its nations. I know Gottfried writes about how easily the Americans were duped, but Americans are very nice people. It’s not a good excuse, but people know Americans are very generous. Our generosity has not been appreciated so its time to stop foreign aid, particularly to Israel. We have our own problems.

  8. Svigor says:

    Goldberg hates national identities (although he makes an exception for Israel)

    Yeah the word for that is “Jewish.” There are always exceptions, but this is the overwhelmingly dominant Jewish position (though if we’re quibbling we might add “White” before “national identities,” as Jews really only care about annihilating the cohesion of groups they can pass for. In other words, if Jews look enough like your people that many have a hard time distinguishing the two with certainty, you’re fucked.

    At its best, PC is a way to show respect to people. If black people don’t want to be called “Negroes,” it is only right and proper to respect that desire. If Asians object to “Oriental,” lexicological arguments can’t change the fact that it is rude not to oblige them.

    PC: Negro Colored Black Afro-American African-American (shitty brands that can’t be improved have to keep changing their marketing)

    Also PC: “Nobody gives a fuck what you want to be called, whitey. You’re white, lower-case w, now STFD and STFU.”

    I am intrigued how often Goldberg, who is essentially recycling conventional views interspersed with chunks of history that seem to have been extracted from a high school survey, uses the phrase “I tend to believe…”

    I even try to excise this kind of crap from my comments to blog posts. So my internal editor when I’m writing blog comments is superior to Goldberg’s when he’s writing books he’s probably already sold for a pretty penny to top publishers.

    I tend to believe that high levels of immigration, particularly skills-based immigration, are economically desirable policies. Also, the evidence that low-skilled immigration is a net detriment to the country is not as cut-and-dried as some claim. (The field of economics that studies immigration is shot through with methodological and ideological problems.)

    Except for Israel, because that’s (((our))) backyard.

    as the husband of Nikki Haley’s speechwriter, Jessica Gavora.

    Wow, she looks really Jewish. But that can’t be true, because Jews are only like 2% of the population, and it would almost take a racist Jew to find another Jew to marry, especially in light of how egalitarian and anti-racist and race-blind and pro-diversity and pro-multiculturalism Jews are.

    Typos:

    an anthology om the funding

    ***

    Attila, Gottfried is at the extreme left end of the “bad for Whitey” Jewish bell curve. Leaving aside the issue of whether he’s really on our side, you’re supposed to leave these kinds of targets for last. Have some trigger discipline, buddy. Ever heard of target selection?

    From my own personal experience, this I have found to be generally true. I think most commenters would agree. Sadly, it is one of the main reasons White America is in its present mess.

    It’s absolutely true. I was just commenting the other day in another forum how pathetic White Americans are in this regard. If you want the proper mental picture, just watch a western with a scene about a snake oil salesman pitching rubes. That’s exactly how White Americans are about race and politics. They’re about as sophisticated as Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel. Their naive status anxiety is what makes them susceptible to the transparently destructive schemes of diversity, multiculturalism, “anti-racism,” etc.

  9. (((“The husband of Nikki Haley’s speechwriter”))) would condemn anygoy who reminds us deplorables that Nikki Haley’s real name is Nimrata Randhawa.

    Born as Nimrata ‘Nikki’ Randhawa to Indian immigrants from Punjab, she became the first female governor in South Carolina.

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/Trump-chooses-Nikki-Haley-as-US-Ambassador-to-UN/article16687642.ece#!

  10. Back in the “oughts,” Gottfried pinned Goldberg’s ears back. Goldberg has hated his betters ever since.

    Frankly, Goldberg has never grown up intellectually and his books show it. The man is no conservative and the Goldberg Review has continued on its downward arc to irrelevance.

  11. I hope the archive.org waitinglist on J.Burnhams book is short..

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  12. White Americans are the ONLY constituency not playing the Identity Game.

    I’m Russian and Scot… but I cannot imagine marching on DC for the rights of Russians to migrate to the USA…. I have absolutely NO genetic allegiance to either Russia or Scotland.

    But I am very much alone …. Latinos increase their numbers and lobby for their southern relatives.

    Black Americans and Muslims advance their interests apart from “ordinary” Americans.

    BUT THE JEWS have it down to a science. They stir the identity POT to destroy their natural economic rivals… hitherto White America…. and I find myself yearning for more Japanese and Chinese influence to thwart the Jewish Plague on America.

    For the moment, Jews are on the ropes, however…. the Germans are importing enough Muslims to remove the Jewish Boot from their necks… [ ask any German ex pat at Lake Balaton Hungary]

    Germans thought Muslims could be subdued and used to get rid of their Jewish “problem” since WWII. How’d that work out ??? Turks were tame…. Syrians and Paki’s – not so much.

    But the chess game is the same…. Jews are rethinking their advocacy strategy … since Israel is now the worlds EVIL CHILD. I love it. Muslims are finally serving a purpose besides self immolation.

    So – again… White Americans have few allies…. Jonah Goldberg certainly isn’t one. Neither is Dersh… but for Trump’s love affair with Israel.

    There aren’t 2 billion Jews. I am perfectly willing to advance Jewish interests if it culls the Muslim populations …. carpet bombing sounds wonderful.

    We will deal with the Culture of Critique and it’s devastating effect on American education and distortion of history…. AFTER they’ve helped us rid ourselves of the Muslim and African plagues.

    By then, Hitler will be a minor player in the race for the worst person in history…And the Jews will be less influential in the writing of history… and the direction of our leadership.

    Or – we can let the Muzzies kill em …. and that might happen.

    • Replies: @anon
  13. Tiny Duck says:

    The problem with the west is really a problem with white people.

    white people have yet to acknowledge their perpetration of the slavery holocaust and their continued perpetuation of white supremacy

    taking down confederate traitor monuments is a good first step but we REALLY need to commit to teaching the evils of slavery and white supremacy on our schools and teaching real history and not just the white mans

    • Troll: renfro
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    , @Wally
    , @Ace
  14. SMK says: • Website
    @attilathehen

    Your pathological, reflexive, irrational dishonest Jew-hatred (as distinguished from Kevin MacDonald’s honest and rational critiques of Jewish influence and it’s baleful consequences) blinds you to the obvious. Gottfried and Goldberg are antipodes. Gottfried despises Goldberg. Gottfried is the foremost critic of Jewish neoconservatism. He’s not a tribalistic, ethno-centric, or passionately Zionist Jew. Name one white gentile “conservatism, inc.” apparatchik, from John McCain and Lindsey Graham to the gentiles and “girly-boys” at NR and the Weekly Standard, who has denounced or even criticized Jewish neocons and their fanatical “invite-the-word/invade-the-world” ideology. On the contrary, they support and embody the ideology and the policies that will ultimately destroy what’s left of historic white America.

    • Agree: Byrresheim, lavoisier
    • Replies: @tjm
  15. SMK says: • Website
    @Sean

    To Goldberg, the “suicide of the West” can only be precluded by transforming the U.S. into a nonwhite-majority hellhole and dystopia and transforming the countries of Western Europe into Muslim-majority hellholes with large minorities of blacks from Africa and the Caribbean. In Goldberg’s inverted fantasy world, only those culpable for the “suicide of the West” can prevent the “suicide of the West.”

    • Replies: @Sean
  16. SMK says: • Website
    @Svigor

    The fundamental reason that white Americans are ignorant and gullible in respect to race and immigration is because the left controls almost everything, most crucially the mass-media and educational system, and the only “mainstream, respectable” critics and opponents of left-liberalism are “neocons” and “cucks” who are race-denialists and immigration enthusiasts and, consequently, essentially the same in this respect as the leftists and liberals they oppose on matters unrelated to race and massive nonwhite immigration. But a majority are not so ignorant and gullible as to have voted for Hillary Clinton, who would have given amnesty to 20-30 million illegal aliens (according to Anne Coulter), rather than “build-the-wall” Donald Trump.

    • Replies: @TheBoom
    , @Corvinus
  17. @Svigor

    “Attila, Gottfried is at the extreme left end of the “bad for Whitey” Jewish bell curve. Leaving aside the issue of whether he’s really on our side, you’re supposed to leave these kinds of targets for last. Have some trigger discipline, buddy. Ever heard of target selection?” Nope. I go for the head of the snake. This is the best strategy. For example, I consistently state that the pope must be relocated to the Congo or the Philippines. Priests, bishops are insignificant. I left the RCC because I don’t accept black/Asian priests-popes. The majority of RCCers now live in Asia, Africa, Latin America. The RCC is a Caucasian (Middle Eastern) and European construct. There is nothing black/Asian about the RCC. But, now that the majority is black/Asian, the papacy in Europe is meaningless. I went after the pope because when I ask RCCers if they accept black/Asian priests-popes, some will reply that RCC churches should follow the ethnicity of the country. This is a cuckish answer so now I make it very simple – would you accept a black/Asian pope? There is only one pope. Some commentators say yes, other commentators refuse to answer.

    I go after Gottfried because he is the “alt-right Jew” the cucks will use to refute leftists ideas. This just reveals cucks for what they are. This is why I now define what the West is not. The West is not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim. These groups cannot have any say in how the West is governed. This leads directly to calls for stripping them of citizenship, buying property. In the case of blacks in the USA, it means segregation. To deal with Muslims, Christians will have to start stating that Islam is a Christian heresy. Jews have their own country with its capital. Someone like Derbyshire would have to be deported to China. If a Caucasian cannot state that the West is better than the East and Africa, this person is a degenerate cuck. Now that we know who does not comprise the West, policy changes would follow. Derbyshire has written that Asians are smarter than whites. He is a perfect example of a fifth column in the West.

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
    , @Anon
  18. @attilathehen

    SMk (#14) nailed you to the wall. You know nothing of Gottfried other than he is Jewish, and that’s the only thing that matters to you. You go after Gottfried because you’re an ignoramus.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  19. MarkinLA says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Tiny, Tiny, Tiny, at one time you were so stupid that it made me laugh. Now you are just stupid. Are you the real Tiny? Did you hack his account?

  20. @Quartermaster

    Are you a functional illiterate? Did you not read the article I attached in my comment #2? I’ll take criticism from my own kind. Criticism from those who are not my kind needs to be evaluated against the type they are. Gottfried is free to say what he wishes. I am free to call him miscegenated, meshuggah, melange whose tribe has contributed nothing to the West.

  21. gsjackson says:
    @attilathehen

    Gottfried once remarked that he enjoys nothing so much as feeding neocons to the sharks, and he has a long track record of trying to do so. Midwestern traditionalism? You must be thinking about the last remnants of it around 50 years ago.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  22. FigHead says:

    Did Goldberg write this latest book? Rumor has it that ghostwriters wrote Liberal Fascism (actually it was National Review’s staff copywriter, who also writes NR’s direct mail solicitations. No, I am not joking.)

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  23. @gsjackson

    Of course Gottfried would enjoy sticking it to the neocons. He wants be numero uno in the tribe. Do you know if believes Jews are the chosen? If he said yes, he’s not on our side and can’t be. Midwesterners can regenerate. Jews cannot.

  24. Sean says:
    @SMK

    The people of the West are ultimately culpable because they wanted their countries to be insulated from international economic adjustments and have a democratic political system. They cannot have both.

    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
  25. @FigHead

    How would you know that ? Sources or retract.

    • Replies: @Anon
  26. @Svigor

    Svigor, here’s a youtube about the papacy which will help you to better understand why I go after the big targets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbkWxl67h8w Around the 15 minute mark, Alex Jones gives background info on Leo Lyon Zagami. Mr. Zagami knows what is going on at the Vatican. He says that there is a 90% chance the next pope will be black. Cuck pope Frannie has repeatedly hinted at retiring. Part of this is because he hasn’t been able to implement the globalist agenda. RCC churches in the West are closing down. The liberals and globalists were planning to use the network of churches across the USA and Europe to implement their agendas. I remember when Frannie issued his Laudauto Si encyclical letter on the environment, USA RCC churches and universities immediately began offering seminars and workshops for people to start pushing the climate change agenda even more. Fortunately, Trump became president and pulled us out of the climate change treaty. Just last week, The Vatican issued documents regarding the global market and derivatives. This commie pope is at it again. A couple of weeks ago, when the German bishops wanted to change the rules for communion regarding the divorced and Protestants, Frannie told them to discuss it among themselves and come up a solution. Pure nonsense. The RCC rules regarding this issue cannot be changed and it cannot be done. Frannie cannot make an affirming statement about church theology, but he can blather about economics. He conveniently avoids dealing with the financial mess of the Vatican bank. The RCC liberals are in control of the RCC but they are beginning to see that people are leaving the RCC and their plans are being thwarted. The RCC cucks don’t know how to react because of their fealty to cuck pope Frannie and the church. They believe this problem is temporary. It is not. The bigger issues are homos/blacks/Asians in the RCC. Neither the liberal RCCers nor the RCC cucks want to handle these issues. A sign that the end of the RCC is near is what happened at the Catholic themed Met Gala event. The evil, homosexual Cardinal Dolan was the main supporter of this blasphemous, sacriligious parade of degenerates. The Vatican has been taken over by homosexuals. Cardinal Dolan has managed to control his passions, but he will retire in seven years. He and his homosexual priests in the New York Archdiocese are trying to get as much money as they can before the RCCers who are 70 years and older die and leave their money to their children and grandchildren who have no interest in the RCC. It’s well known that Dolan wants to move to the Vatican as soon as he retires. He needs money for the boys and bling he will buy. As Zagami says, the Vatican is already making plans for popes to have 4 year terms. That’s why it’s time to move the papacy to the Congo or the Philippines. There was a time when the popes were in Avignon. This move will not be a problem.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Byrresheim
  27. Not too long ago, Hollywood was allowed to expose the racist/hypocrisy/confusion of the Jewish powers in the USA. Even back then, I was shocked, and so were the NYC elite, to see this reality shown in the great movie “Bonfire of the Vanities”. Enjoy this ultra-politically incorrect one minute clip of a Jewish DA angry that the ultra-rich do not understand the threat of agitating the mass of third-worlders living nearby:

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @Wally
    , @Anon
  28. Jonah Goldberg and his friend Bill “Trotskyte” Kristol are two of the most hideous excuses for humans ever found on this planet. Both of them should be abducted and then dropped off in the heart of Africa so they can mix with their diversified friends. The whole event should be televised as Reality Show. Of course, it will only last one episode unless you wish to show their dead bodies for the next 12 weeks of the season.

  29. Wally says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Sure, let’s teach this:

    African chiefs urged to apologise for slave trade
    Nigerian civil rights group says tribal leaders’ ancestors sold people to slavers and should say sorry

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade

    “African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today.”

    followed by this:

    Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let’s us know who the prime sellers & owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    Dr. Tony Martin – The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade

  30. @Carlton Meyer

    The Jews are busy marrying blacks/Asians so I guess they’re a new minority within minorities.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @anon
  31. Dan Hayes says:

    In the foregoing Comments there have been a lot of back-and-forth regarding Gottfried, with some even preposterously claiming him to be a Neocon.

    To clear up these misconceptions I would recommend reading Gottfried’s political autobiography, Encounters: My Life with Nixon, Marcuse, and Other Friends and Teachers. Its style is warm and endearing as opposed to Gottfried’s academic works which of necessity must be detached. Here Gottfried is revealed to be a principled man of the European Right. His aversion/disdain/dislike/animosity/hostility towards his Neocon coreligionists are truly awe inspiring! Unfortunately, amonst his coreligionists Gottfried seemingly appears to be an army of one!

    What appealed most to me was his description of his principled father who incidentally reminded me of my own father. Although coming from entirely different ethnic, work, and religious backgrounds, they shared the same unflinching bedrock principles.

  32. TheBoom says:
    @SMK

    The left’s control of almost all institutions is the cause of much of white gullibility but you also have to add in:
    1. White cultures are for the most part built on the idea of fairness and a social contract with people judged on individual actions and not race, class or clan. That makes them easier to exploit than most of the rest of the world which is built on the ideas of “what is good for me” and “what is good for my family” – other people don’t matter and are fair game if their welfare conflicts with those priorities.

    2. Jews see white people as a threat and have built up over decades the idea that it is virtuous to demonize whites, especially for whites to do so.

    3. White societies are the most individualistic which frees single women up to virtue signal by seeking the destruction of their societies, something that isn’t seem to that extent in group/family oriented societies.

    4. Most American whites have traditionally not been all that political minded and habe (especially so with the men) wanted to be left alone. That attitude is a disadvantage when up against powerful forces who are driven to destroy them and, to your point, control the institutions

    • Replies: @Wally
  33. utu says:

    What kind of Jewish conservatist is Paul Gottfried?

    Don’t Scapegoat Israel (2011)

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/2011/03/17/dont-scapegoat-israel/

    I am tired of the Israel-bashing that has become characteristic of some of my fellow right-wingers. These critics gush over the Palestinians in a way that is seldom evident when they speak about other Third World populations and certainly not about American minorities. Those who cheered for the Afrikaner hardliners against Nelson Mandela are grief-stricken over the failure of the Israelis to hand over their country to their enemies.

    …tribalism is something the Right is justly accused of promoting, when it defends the cultural and ethnic integrity of Western nations. But unlike my comrades-in-arm, I am just as well-disposed toward a Jewish nation as I am toward Euro-American nations.

    We give the Israelis lots of foreign aid and therefore have the right to criticize what they do. But treating the Israelis as a special pariah nation goes beyond being merely critical of those who take our foreign aid. One can oppose foreign aid (like Ron Paul) without feeling an urgent need to dump on a particular recipient night and day. And in this case to single out that recipient for special opprobrium in a way that exceeds its relative evil-doing in today’s very nasty world.

    Unlike the neocons he recognizes logical consequences of his unconditional support for Israel so he is more accepting of ethnical nationalism on the right and this makes him more palatable for nationalist whites. But it is possible that if there was no Israel he would not find any reason to be on the right just lie neocons would still be Trotskyists. He can be commended for consistent of the goose and gander kind, but he does not care for the gander as his primary motive is the well being of the goose.

    • Replies: @Anon
  34. Mr. Anon says:

    Neocons like Goldberg wear their “conservatism” like the Iriquois wore deer-hides – both as a trophy and as camoflage.

    When a guy tries to tell me that Otto von Bismarck and Kaiser Wilhelm I were not “really” conservative is when I know that guy is peddling bullshit.

  35. Art says:

    Never ever get between two intellectual Jews, who are arguing. No matter which side you favor – you will likely be wrong. That is because Jews most always, argue an extreme position. The place to be is not with either extreme – but in the middle. Western and Easter philosophies both champion the “golden mean.”

    Art

    • Replies: @Wally
  36. Respect says:
    @attilathehen

    Could you , please , translate you yiddish expressions : shelemiel , kvetching , schimazael , schmucks , shekel ( the jewish currency ? ) ,
    thank you

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @Anon
  37. Jewish ethno-nationalists are deeply in denial. People like Goldberg simply view reality through distorting lens; they seem to think that their tribe is safer in multiracial environment. According to them, the more 3rd worlders, the better.

    Just, they don’t learn from cruel empirical reality: with the rise of power or influence of blacks, all types of whites are endangered. Take a look at South Africa or Brazil. Perhaps Brazil is the best illustration- blacks don’t rule the country & Jewish Brazilians don’t have nearly as big influence as in the US. But, in the end, worsening life conditions- street crime, corruption, inflation, general insecurity.. force local Jews to flee the country. More power to the dishevelled Afro masses, less bearable life to Euros & Euro-look alikes.

    That’s what you get when you promote “diversity”, liberalism, negrophilia, chaos, violent primitivism, promiscuity, …

  38. @Sean

    Wrong. Actually, insulating ourselves from international economic adjustments is the only way we can preserve the democratic political system.

  39. People back then (let’s guess who they were!) believed “decadent Western capitalism and ‘Manchester liberalism’ were inadequate to the challenges of the day.”

    People back then were right.

    His version of Suicide Of The West indicts—in what by now is neoconservative ritual—Bismarck, the Prussian state and the administrative model of late nineteenth century Germany. All these pernicious forces allegedly laid the conceptual foundations of American managerial democracy.

    Well, the Teutonic version was a lot more efficient.

    ‘If black people don’t want to be called “Negroes,” it is only right and proper to respect that desire. If Asians object to “Oriental,” lexicological arguments can’t change the fact that it is rude not to oblige them.’

    I never understood that. I could see them being offended by ‘nigger’ or ‘slant’ or something like that. But ‘negro’ and ‘oriental’ are perfectly polite, if a bit dated.

    Really! Are there no reliable studies (I’ve seen dozens of them) that show that low-skilled immigration impacts negatively on low-income earners in the US?

    This may blow your mind, but not so long ago (2006), even–gasp!–Paul Krugman admitted this publicly: https://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/27/opinion/north-of-the-border.html

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  40. Anon[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    How do you justify “primary” motive?

    • Replies: @utu
  41. In the end, it’s all about money. And whatever it brings in its wake. Be it power, prestige or else. Now the problem is that the Whitey has got the gelt but the Jewey wants his more than fair share of it and the latter is gonna use the Niggah (Black, Asian, Latino etc) to get it, come rain or shine. In the meantime, enjoy the circus that America has turned into…

  42. Goldberg is the typical ziocon pushing the ziocon lie that unlimited illegal immigration is good for America and in general pushes the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and also he is pushing the goals of THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION like all the rest of his Zionist fellow travelers on their road to a NWO.

    Zionist like Goldberg will not be satisfied until America is under a totally communist government and this is not far off as one can find out by reading the 10 planks of the communist manifesto where damn near all are in place here in the U.S..

    The moral and cultural and financial destruction of America can be laid at the feet of the members of the Zionist cabal such as Goldberg, they are wreckers of everything that used to good and moral about America, that is what the Zionists do, they are destroyers.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  43. Corvinus says:
    @SMK

    “The fundamental reason that white Americans are ignorant and gullible in respect to race and immigration is because the left controls almost everything, most crucially the mass-media and educational system, and the only “mainstream, respectable” critics and opponents of left-liberalism are “neocons” and “cucks” who are race-denialists and immigration enthusiasts and, consequently, essentially the same in this respect as the leftists and liberals they oppose on matters unrelated to race and massive nonwhite immigration.”

    In reality, the majority of white Americans are other than ignorant and gullible in respect to race and immigration because they make up their own decisions on these matters, which run contrary to your position. In other words, you concoct a wild story that white people are essentially propagandized, that they have been hoodwinked and bamboozled, and that the only way they become “woke” is by listening to your virtue signaling.

  44. @Respect

    Use a search engine. They give very good examples of how the word is used and its origin. These would be much better than my translations and give you a history of the words.

  45. Wally says:
    @TheBoom

    correctly said:
    “Most American whites have traditionally not been all that political minded and habe (especially so with the men) wanted to be left alone. That attitude is a disadvantage when up against powerful forces who are driven to destroy them and, to your point, control the institutions”

    Indeed, as is said:

    ‘Those who do not protect & nurture their own are destined to be ruled by those that do’.

    http://www.codoh.com

  46. Wally says:
    @Art

    “intellectual Jews” is an oxymoron

    If Jews are really so smart they would have conjured up a better, more believable story than their impossibly fake & stupid ’6,000,000 & gas chambers’.

    http://www.codoh.com

  47. tjm says:
    @SMK

    Your ilk don’t like being called out I see. Jews can discuss their power, but only the “chosen” are permitted, for everyone else it is “antisemitism”, even though the fuckers are not even Semites!

    I don’t hate Jews, I hate what they do: Spread hate for Muslims, for gays and white men, as well as blacks, and when society bends to their relentless push for racism, they scream “RACISTS!”.

    Anyone familiar with Israel knows the real ugly face of racism, as only those chosen are able to practice it.

    If you don’t like the truth, change your behavior, not the truth.

  48. tjm says:
    @attilathehen

    There is no greater enemy to the West than the Tribe. They have installed themselves as the gate keepers of truth and morality, yet very telling, is that the same “openness and multiculturalism” they push on the west, is not practiced by Apartheid Israel?!

    These people are the worst imaginable: They have been given everything by America, our money, our children’s lives, but if it came down to it, they would love to bomb US and much as Iran.

    They are strangers in every land, even Israel, and in every land they work to destroy the society and continuity within the host nation, they are the very epitome of a disease.

    • Agree: anarchyst, Them Guys
  49. Jake says:

    Professor Gottfried again shows us what matters most: the Neocons are the heirs of Leon Trotsky in self-righteous megalomania to rule the world.

  50. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    Quiet down and listen children.

    We’ve been learning about synonyms and antonyms. So we’re going to play a little game.

    One of you raises its* hand and says a word. Another raises it’s hand and says the synonym. You all vote if it’s correct.

    Then someone says the antonym. Raise your hand, don’t just shout out. We all
    Know synonym the same antonym opposite.
    And opposite just doesn’t mean different it means the most most different possible.

    Cameron say a word

    Conservative

    Alex. what’s a synonym for conservative

    Loser

    Exactly right Miguel what’s an antonym for conservative

    Winner

    Exactly right.

    I’d use pathetic conservatives when teaching about adjectives.

  51. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    40 acres and a mule wasn’t about freed slaves at all. It’s from one of Jefferson’s utopian essays about small yoemanw farmers White black or indian Jefferson claimed that the minimum a family need was a mule and 40 acres.

    But Jefferson was not exactly telling the truth . He was a farmer and knew that it all depended on the 40 acres.

    Illinois Alabama or Mississippi flat 15 feet of black gold topsoil with a good water supply and a decent growing season is prosperity

    New England 1 foot of clay on top of a moraine of glacial rocks and the short growing season because 1800 was still the little ice age? Useless.

    Anywhere on mountains? Useless. Arizona desert sand? Useless. Kansas Nebraska Iowa black gold with regular summer rainfall? Prosperity!!!

    Tale told by an idiot signifying nothing

  52. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ethan

    Yes Gottfied does.

    Who reads Goldberg anyway? Not me. I did read his first book about his lifetime of working for network TV liberal propaganda.

    Didn’t tell me anything I didn’t know.

  53. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Verymuchalive

    Even more ignorant and gullible and totally brainwashed are the educated intellectuals.

    I remember when scumbag Cornell prof Bernal published Black Athena. Among other things it claimed all the Egyptian pharaoh s including the Ptolemy dynasty and its most famous Queen Cleopatra were black Africans

    A lot of idiot intellectuals didn’t actually read the book, just the glowing reviews in the Sunday papers and the idiot intellectual magazines

    Many idiot intellectuals, knowing I’m a White nationalist told me all about it. I informed them that Cleopatra was pure Macedonian Greek and so were all her ancestors going back to when Alexander the Great conquered Egypt and installed a half brother and sister on the throne.

    See how uniformed liberals are???

    The liberal brain is a sink. Every once in a while liberal propaganda central committee pulls the plug, drains out all the previous information then turns on the taps and fills up the empty vessel with the latest propaganda

    Only reason they believe me is that I’ve got a top five university diploma which even the Jews respect.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Bombercommand
  54. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen

    What makes you think the RC is going to listen to your advice and remove the Vatican to the Phillipines or Africa?

    For one thing, the humidity would ruin the art.

    Your particular brand of mental illness is termed grandiosity. If you want to influence the Catholic Church, become a priest, learn Italian, transfer to Rome and work your way up to where you have some influence.

    Get back to us 40 years hence and let us know about your progress.

    • Replies: @Anon
  55. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Bowman

    Fig head knows it because he knows people who work for national review .

    I only comment about things I know personally or read about. There are some people who do that.

    If you don’t believe a comment without a citation don’t believe it. Who the F are you to demand an internet citation from someone who has personal knowledge of something?

    This comment isn’t directed at you personally but at all the isolated idiots who demand internet citations for every comment.

  56. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen

    Go back to 4th grade and learn about paragraphs if you expect people to read your cr*p

  57. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Respect

    Attila threw them in to make people think she is familiar with American Jews. She leafed through one of those books of yiddish expressions

    Problem is, Jews don’t really use Yiddish expressions much any more The language has died out. But tilly doesn’t realize it.
    Some of the words she got completely wrong schmeil just means physically clumsy dork messygah just means crazy. Gottfried is neither

    She’s best just clicked on commenters to ignore

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  58. Bill Jones says: • Website

    The question,surely ,is why are these creatures still alive?

  59. utu says:
    @Anon

    Before he knew he was conservative he knew he was Jewish. His Jewishness is at least 20 years older than his conservatisms. If find Jesus before he dies he may stop being conservative but will remain a Jew.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    , @Anon
  60. Wally says:
    @Anon

    Reminds me of the band Earth, Wind, & Fire pretending to be ‘Egyptians’. LOL

  61. Z-man says:

    This guy definitely doesn’t look like a ‘Goldberg’. (Grin)
    Beware the power of the Cabal.

  62. Dan Hayes says:
    @utu

    utu:

    I demur. If you read his political autobiography (vide Comment #31) you will soon realize that Gottfried got both his religion and his innate conservatism with his mother’s milk!

  63. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Thanks for the video.

  64. anonomy says:

    “And why are certain other groups, like Southern white Christians and those who want to preserve ancestral monuments that the Left and (now) National Review don’t happen to like, not to be accorded the same sensitivity to group feeling?”

    Ask anyone of any persuasion and they will tell you ” Kill these people”. Ruby Ridge, Waco, Waco Mormon babies. I have no idea how the Amish have survived.
    Kill the racists is their mantra. I would rather be a white supremacist Amish rather than any of you. The filthy pig whites are just that. So like any good white or lefty Clinton obama supporter, or as a good black lawyer would say ” just kill’m”. Ask Jeraldo Rivera,Janet Reno, or the other guy must be black, because I can’t remember his name, the public hates the white racist.

  65. Them Guys says:
    @DESERT FOX

    I saw Goldberg while flipping thru tv channels and he was on fox glen beck show. This is some while back as I have quit viewing All forms tv msm news. Anyways, Beck’s show was on the recent banks snafus and bail outs if I recall….And the tv screen was a split screen of two different sets of “experts” guest talker heads…..On right side screen was that guy famous for his very good expose’ book on the “Fed Reserve and Jekel Island” ties…Cannot now recall his name nor title of book…Maybe Edwin or Edward something or other?

    And soon becks show talk gravitated to stuff on how early soviet commies marxism in Russia had much to answer for about todays fucked up usa etc.

    Then beck says “Lets ask our guest expert Goldberg about the histories on Marxist commies.”

    Then Goldberg being at left side screen square box immediately spewed forth crap spin of how “Well yes glen but First I just Must get This out and out of the way for I am certain a few anti-Semitic neo-Nazis are going to cry buckets if it isn’t stated….So, let me start by admitting that Yes a FEW a Small Few of the original of top soviet commies were in fact jewish!…..However!! Let me also point out the Fact that besides they being so small a few jewish soviets….All of those Few were also Atheists!……..At which becks brainless live audience cheered and clapped for goldbergs honesty at naming jews etc…..They were totally oblivious to the fact that jews played a Huge much greater roll in Trotsky and Lennin’s jewish revolt against Whites and Christians in Russia eh.

    Then a commercial break, back to show again, and beck turns to his other guest expert(a True white guy expert as his famed book expose’ of fed reserve proves)…..And that guy at screen right side, begins to relate how todays fed reserve banks are connected to soviet Russian jewry and Zionists…..Soon as his words of jewry & zios was uttered….Beck quickly stepped in and cut him off, sputtered some spin crapola and said Oh time for another commercial break folks, we shall return to this exciting info afterwards so stay tuned!

    Soon as show returned from break, beck 100% ignored the truth teller guest and allowed goldberg total free reign to take over entire show conversation as well as beck had quests ask questions Goldberg was happy to answer…..That other guest guys face showed his true thoughts…He realized Beck only invited him on show to garner more viewers from the type on right that do get it( like most here at unz as example). And Beck would never quit playing his role as jewrys gatekeeper.

    But that crap first spewed by Goldberg of a tiny few atheistic jew ran soviet, so just blow off fact of any jew involvement as a non issue folks!……Showed his true jew “spots” which like a leopard’s spots cannot ever change…A typical lying jewy little jewboy Goldberg.

    And yes if anybodys wondering….Beck did do one of his famous Babbling-Crying episodes as per usual from beck. What a fuckin pure Joke Goldberg and Beck both truly are eh.

    A highly over paid Shabozz goy with his current jewish boss handler clown. And becks tv live audience ate it up as truth like well trained circus animal neocon repubs.

    But this is the major method used by phony jewish “expert” psycho babblers. By making mention of soviet jews as very first sentence, Goldberg gained total 100% confidence of becks tv audience as well as 99% of fox tv viewers across America as being a “Good and Honest” jew and one more than willing to broach that huge Taboo of jew issues eh.

    For rest of their lives this experience will fortify and enhance those folks will to action as fast kneejerk defenders of jewry and zios regardless of anything else period. Due to being subjected to goldbergs expertise and him being so good of a jew guy he admitted a few, a small few soviets were jewish!

    Just like them always defenders of negroes no matter what…”But Hey man…I once 20 yrs ago worked with a black guy at a factory line. And he was a really good black guy on every issue you can think of”.

    Well gee aint he so lucky eh…..Maybe if he can spend another 20 yrs searching he shall locate yet Another good black guy. Then really be able to brag it up to prove he aint no rayssis.

    • Replies: @WhiteWolf
    , @DESERT FOX
  66. @Anon

    The words are schlemiel and meshuggenah. You’re right that most Jews in the USA, Reformed or Conservative at least, don’t know Yiddish and don’t use it even in passing. I know more Yiddish than jews I talk to, and I’m not Jewish.

  67. WhiteWolf says:
    @attilathehen

    Despite being very wary of the writings of our “fellow White people” I found it hard to disagree with Gottfried on his assessment. I’m not sure that he’d want them to be any different. Should they really think deeply about politics they would undoubtedly be labelled racist White supremacists.

    You have the choice of supporting democrats who support open borders and marxism or supporting republicans who pretend to be a viable opposition. Step outside that paradigm and you are an extremist as far as the establishment is concerned.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  68. Ickenham says:
    @Svigor

    “Wow, she looks really Jewish. But that can’t be true, because Jews are only like 2% of the population, and it would almost take a racist Jew to find another Jew to marry, especially in light of how egalitarian and anti-racist and race-blind and pro-diversity and pro-multiculturalism Jews are.”

    Leaving aside Jonah Goldberg’s published writings and public utterances, those seeking to condemn him and more particularly his wife and daughter for the unpardonable sin of Jewishness are rather tipping their hands.

    Jonah Goldberg’s mother, Lucianne, is a gentile raised Episcopalian. His wife, Jessica Gavora, is a gentile from a devout Catholic family: father Slovak expatriate; mother Irish-American. Jonah Goldberg identifies as Jewish (his father is Jewish), but the only standard by which his daughter and wife are counted as Jewish is the malevolent, inclusive, genocidal standard. The rabbinical arbiters of the exclusive, halachic standard probably classify Jonah Goldberg himself as a gentile.

    • Replies: @Byrresheim
  69. WhiteWolf says:
    @Them Guys

    When I first found out that Jews were instrumental in the Bolshevik revolution it wasn’t their race that held my attention. It was the fact they were from New York. It blew me away to find out that the center of capitalism was also the birthplace of it’s memesis communism. The whole cold war was simply a scam to militarize the US and eventually construct a police state. The wall with guard towers and advanced surveillance will help keep people in the plantation. Already people are calling for their children to be treated like prisoners “to keep them safe”.

    • Replies: @Anon
  70. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Well you could be pleased enough if you came up with that instant riposte at 15 in a school debate but you deserve the credit from many other comments of having higher standards expected of you. After all you were born drooling and mewling before you could aim the mot juste at a negligent parent :-)

  71. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @WhiteWolf

    You are trolling aren’t you?

  72. @WhiteWolf

    Gottfried is a good writer. I’ve read some of his stuff. The big picture is getting Westerners (i.e., not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim) to write articles like his. White supremacy will come up because as the West is defined by what it is not, the Caucasian/European groups are the ones who make up the West. We have to get the cucks/Jews out of the way to make even more progress. I do support the GOP. Now that Trump won, the future looks very good for us. If a Westerner cannot state that the West is better than the East or Africa, he’s a cuck.

  73. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Mutatis mutandis? I think attilathehen is actually female. Claims an IQ of 90+ which at least puts her amongst UR’s realists…

  74. hbm says:

    It’s not suicide. It’s homocide by gaslighting Goldbergs.

    That it is a “suicide” is hasbara.

  75. @attilathehen

    Anon is right.

    Here, you are even allowed italics and such.

    Use paragraphs at least.

  76. @Ickenham

    … is the malevolent, inclusive, genocidal standard.

    Which, by some strange twist of fate is the standard zionists have adopted as their's.

    Go figure.

  77. @Them Guys

    Recommend the book Wall Street and the BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION by the late Anthony Sutton and The Gulag Archipelago by Alexander Solzhenitsyn, both can be had on amazon.com.

    Communism was a Zionist creation from day one , also read THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION, can be found on line and check out henrymakow.com, can learn a lot on this site.

  78. lavoisier says: • Website

    Dr. Gottfried at his best.

    Exposing the rot at the heart of Conservatism Incorporated.

    What Buckley did to the nation he claimed to love was pure treachery.

    He would have done better in Congress where such venality is richly rewarded and celebrated.

  79. anon[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @gustafus21

    We will deal with the Culture of Critique and it’s devastating effect on American education and distortion of history…. AFTER they’ve helped us rid ourselves of the Muslim and African plagues.

    There are 1 billion muslims in the world, 1.25 Billion Africans, plus another 140 million outside Africa. Meanwhile, there are only 15 million Jews, incl. 6.5m in Israel and 6.8m in the US. How do you propose they help us rid ourselves of the Muslim and African hordes?

    Since they are of much higher IQ, the damage that could be inflicted by 15m Jews is far higher than the 1.25B of 67 IQ. The 85IQ 46m blacks in the US would not have been such a problem if the 6.8m Jews had not egged them on constantly with identity politics and victim mentality. Now they are doing the same with all other minority groups — hispanics, asians, muslims, and demanding that we let more in so they can brainwash them. This one little menacing tribe is a much bigger problem than the rest of the minority groups combined.

    • Agree: Them Guys
  80. anon[217] • Disclaimer says:

    Jonah Goldberg and his fellow Ziocons ran conservatism to the ground.

  81. anon[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen

    It doesn’t matter who the Jews marry, their offspring all grow up clinging to their Jewish identity and leftist extremism. As per the “Final Solution”, only those 1/8 or less Jewish can be considered safe from this mental illness.

  82. @Anon

    The Black Ancient Egypt gibberish is easily refuted by what the ancient Egyptians themselves left behind. The ancient Egyptians were prolific painters, but only the tomb paintings have survived the ravages of time. These have been carefully cataloged by Egyptologists. Look up Tomb of Huy. Huy was a nobleman who was very proud of his work for the Egyptian army procuring mercenaries. His tomb features some highly realistic paintings of sub-saharan black African mercenaries, dreadlocks, “burnt umber” pigment for skin color, correct facial features etc. The ancient Egyptians rendered their own people completely differently, including an occasional blonde, blue eyed Egyptian. The famous Rameses II had by birth, straight red hair. No sub-saharan black African DNA occurs in Egyptian populations before 700AD, the result of, you guessed it, Arab muslim slavers importing black African slaves.

  83. Mea Culpa says:
    @attilathehen

    Dude, did even read the link you posted? Gottfried is spot on. To compare him to Goldberg is ranks stupidity. Is English your first language?

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  84. anon[217] • Disclaimer says:

    With “conservatives” like Jonah Goldberg and David Brooks, who needs liberals?

  85. @attilathehen

    I’ve met Gottfried, and read much of his writings. He is a true scholar, and he loves the West: probably a lot more than most of the “pro-western” charlatans jostling for the spotlight. And he surely knows much more about Western Civilization than any of them.

    He joined me and some others at a memorial ceremony for fallen Confederate soldiers not so long ago. He didn’t do it to get publicity or You Tube viewers. He didn’t get any. He did it because he wanted to.

    You should know what you’re talking about before going off half-cocked.

    • Replies: @iffen
  86. Miro23 says:

    Goldberg grovels shamelessly whenever he turns to racial problems in the US. In contrast to the traditional Right, Political Correctness is OK with him, providing it doesn’t get too nasty—and It’s not quite clear at what point he would admit that occurs-

    Referring back to one of Linh Dinh’s articles, http://www.unz.com/ldinh/obscured-american-helen-the-writer-and-aspiring-prepper/#comment-2337880 . No doubt for Goldberg that Israel belongs to the Jews – nothing multicultural there.

    The problem is that India belongs to Indians – it’s their home – and they have the right to decide what happens there, even if it’s a hopeless mess. The same for Africans in Africa and Russians in Russia.

    Comment from Acquitaine:

    You’re right, Indians are perfectly free to create a hopeless mess in India, and in many ways they have. Africans are perfectly free to create a hopeless mess in Africa, which in all ways they already have.

    What Indians and Africans are NOT free to do is to move to White Western countries because they’ve screwed up their own. They come here because it’s still (relatively) nice and home is a sh*thole, but they bring with them the same pathologies and ideologies that caused the problems in their own countries and then attempt to establish them here.

    The best example of this cancerous, deadly intrusion on White Western countries is Islam.

    And the cancerous interference of Jewish activism.

  87. iffen says:
    @Bizarro World Observer

    What, exactly, is the value of a Johnny Reb come lately?

  88. @iffen

    What, exactly, is the value of a stupid question?

  89. Ace says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Be sure to let us have your views on Chinese supremacy in China. They keep negroes out if China. They are horrid.

  90. @Mea Culpa

    Dude, I read it. I’ll take criticism from my own, not from a Gottfried. Remember, he really believes he is the chosen. He is not. If you were to tell him Jews contributed nothing the Western civilization, he would go beserker.

  91. Anonymous[150] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    Every word used by the ingroup to describe the outgroup will always come to be seen as offensive by the outgroup. It’s similar to the so-called ‘euphemism treadmill’.

    That ‘negro’ and ‘oriental’ (like ‘retard’ and ‘moron’) are not inherently offensive is true but irrelevant. What matters isn’t what they mean but who uses them.

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