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Voters looking ahead to 2020 are being bombarded with soundbites from the twenty plus Democratic would-be candidates. That Joe Biden is apparently leading the pack according to opinion polls should come as no surprise as he stands for nothing apart from being the Establishment favorite who will tirelessly work to support the status quo.

The most interesting candidate is undoubtedly Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, who is a fourth term Congresswoman from Hawaii, where she was born and raised. She is also the real deal on national security, having been-there and done-it through service as an officer with the Hawaiian National Guard on a combat deployment in Iraq. Though in Congress full time, she still performs her Guard duty.

Tulsi’s own military experience notwithstanding, she gives every indication of being honestly anti-war. In the speech announcing her candidacy she pledged “focus on the issue of war and peace” to “end the regime-change wars that have taken far too many lives and undermined our security by strengthening terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda.” She referred to the danger posed by blundering into a possible nuclear war and indicated her dismay over what appears to be a re-emergence of the Cold War.

In a recent interview with Fox News’s Tucker Carlson, Gabbard doubled down on her anti-war credentials, telling the host that war with Iran would be “devastating,” adding that “I know where this path leads us and I’m concerned because the American people don’t seem to be prepared for how devastating and costly such a war would be… So, what we are facing is, essentially, a war that has no frontlines, total chaos, engulfs the whole region, is not contained within Iran or Iraq but would extend to Syria and Lebanon and Israel across the region, setting us up in a situation where, in Iraq, we lost over 4,000 of my brothers and sisters in uniform. A war with Iran would take far more American lives, it would cost more civilian lives across the region… Not to speak of the fact that this would cost trillions of taxpayer dollars coming out of our pockets to go and pay for this endless war that begs the question as a soldier, what are we fighting for? What does victory look like? What is the mission?”

Gabbard, and also Carlson, did not hesitate to name names among those pushing for war, one of which begins with B-O-L-T-O-N. She then asked “How does a war with Iran serve the best interest of the American people of the United States? And the fact is it does not,” Gabbard said. “It better serves the interest of people like [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin] Bibi Netanyahu and Saudi Arabia who are trying to push us into this war with Iran.”

Clearly not afraid to challenge the full gamut establishment politics, Tulsi Gabbard had previously called for an end to the “illegal war to overthrow the Syrian government,” also observing that “the war to overthrow Assad is counter-productive because it actually helps ISIS and other Islamic extremists achieve their goal of overthrowing the Syrian government of Assad and taking control of all of Syria – which will simply increase human suffering in the region, exacerbate the refugee crisis, and pose a greater threat to the world.” She then backed up her words with action by secretly arranging for a personal trip to Damascus in 2017 to meet with President Bashar al-Assad, saying it was important to meet adversaries “if you are serious about pursuing peace.” She made her own assessment of the situation in Syria and now favors pulling US troops out of the country as well as ending American interventions for “regime change” in the region.

In 2015, Gabbard supported President Barack Obama’s nuclear agreement with Iran and in 2016 she backed Bernie Sanders’ antiwar candidacy. More recently, she has criticized President Donald Trump’s withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal. Last May, she criticized Israel for shooting “unarmed protesters” in Gaza, a very bold step indeed given the power of the Israel Lobby.

Tulsi Gabbard could well be the only genuine antiwar candidate that might truly be electable in the past fifty years, and that is why the war party is out to get her. Two weeks ago, the Daily Beast displayed a headline: “Tulsi Gabbard’s Campaign Is Being Boosted by Putin Apologists.” The article also had a sub-headline: “The Hawaii congresswoman is quickly becoming the top candidate for Democrats who think the Russian leader is misunderstood.”

The obvious smear job was picked by ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, television’s best known Hillary Clinton clone, who brought it up in an interview with Gabbard shortly thereafter. He asked whether Gabbard was “softer” on Putin than were some of the other candidates. Gabbard answered: “It’s unfortunate that you’re citing that article, George, because it’s a whole lot of fake news.” Politico the reported the exchange and wrote: “’Fake news’ is a favorite phrase of President Donald Trump…,” putting the ball back in Tulsi’s court rather than criticizing Stephanopoulos’s pointless question. Soon thereafter CNN produced its own version of Tulsi the Russophile, observing that Gabbard was using a Trump expression to “attack the credibility of negative coverage.”

Tulsi responded “Stephanopoulos shamelessly implied that because I oppose going to war with Russia, I’m not a loyal American, but a Putin puppet. It just shows what absurd lengths warmongers in the media will go, to try to destroy the reputation of anyone who dares oppose their warmongering.”

Tulsi Gabbard had attracted other enemies prior to the Stephanopoulos attack. Glenn Greenwald at The Intercept described how NBC news published a widely distributed story on February 1st, claiming that “experts who track websites and social media linked to Russia have seen stirrings of a possible campaign of support for Hawaii Democrat Tulsi Gabbard.”

But the expert cited by NBC turned out to be a firm New Knowledge, which was exposed by no less than The New York Times for falsifying Russian troll accounts for the Democratic Party in the Alabama Senate race to suggest that the Kremlin was interfering in that election. According to Greenwald, the group ultimately behind this attack on Gabbard is The Alliance for Securing Democracy (ASD), which sponsors a tool called Hamilton 68, a news “intelligence net checker” that claims to track Russian efforts to disseminate disinformation. The ASD website advises that “Securing Democracy is a Global Necessity.”

ASD was set up in 2017 by the usual neocon crowd with funding from The Atlanticist and anti-Russian German Marshall Fund. It is loaded with a full complement of Zionists and interventionists/globalists, to include Michael Chertoff, Michael McFaul, Michael Morell, Kori Schake and Bill Kristol. It claims, innocently, to be a bipartisan transatlantic national security advocacy group that seeks to identify and counter efforts by Russia to undermine democracies in the United States and Europe but it is actually itself a major source of disinformation.

No doubt stories headlined “Tulsi Gabbard Communist Stooge” are in the works somewhere in the mainstream media. The Establishment politicians and their media component have difficulty in understanding just how much they are despised for their mendacity and unwillingness to support policies that would truly benefit the American people but they are well able to dominate press coverage. Given the flood of contrived negativity towards her campaign, it is not clear if Tulsi Gabbard will ever be able to get her message across. But, for the moment, she seems to be the “real thing,” a genuine anti-war candidate who is determined to run on that platform. It might just resonate with the majority of Americans who have grown tired of perpetual warfare to “spread democracy” and other related frauds perpetrated by the band of oligarchs and traitors that run the United States.

(Republished from Strategic Culture Foundation by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Probably the only honest Democrat out there. OK Demo-dunces, when Dem primary comes around, here is a candidate you can vote for without normal people saying What? Are you nuts? Dems are honestly going to push for Feelsy Weelsy Biden, unless the Hildabeast thinks she can give it another try.

  2. Tulsi Gabbard needs to add one more thing to her campaign and she will win: promise a drastic cut on immigration in favor of American workers.

    America is hungry for a candidate who will actually deliver on the no-more-wars and no-more-immigration pledge. Trump campaigned on that but has turned out to be a total fraud who failed on both counts.

    We need Tulsi to step into the void. Not only will she win over a lot of Trump voters, but she will also win over a lot of those on the left who are sick of wars and not particularly pro immigration.

  3. Sako says:

    Hilariously, the MSM trumpeted the message last time around that we simply MUST have a female president, that it was long past time a woman was in charge, and that anyone reluctant to vote for Hillary was an evil misogynist. Before that, we were told that we simply HAD to have a noble Person of Color in the White House, that it was everyone’s duty to vote for Obama and not some old white guy.

    Despite Gabbard ticking off both those boxes, wouldn’t you know It? Suddenly the importance of having a non-White or female President mysteriously vanishes! Suddenly it’s our duty to have the lecherous, creepy old white dude in office! Suddenly the importance of Diversity (“diversity is our strength” don’t you know?) vanishes into the ether when Tulsi comes up.

    I think she should use this to her advantage. Not resort to identity politics or faux feminism, but simply point out the hypocrisy, draw attention to the inconsistency and get the general public asking themselves why all this diversity / Girl Power shit suddenly gets memory holed by the media when it’s Tulsi, or any anti establishment figure, in the spotlight.

    • Agree: follyofwar
    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Icy Blast
    , @Wally
    , @awry
  4. JimDandy says:
    @Brooklyn Dave

    A beautiful, young, intelligent, Progressive, decorated-veteran woman-of-color, and the MSM isn’t giving her the 2007 Obama treatment?

    Case closed. Giraldi’s dead right.

  5. I mat switch party registration just so I can vote for her in a primary. I wonder, however, if once in office, she could implement her program against the Deep State

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  6. According to Wikipedia:

    After Gabbard announced her (2020) campaign, the Russian government owned RT, Sputnik News and Russia Insider together ran about 20 stories favorable to her. NBC News reported that these websites were the same that were involved in Russian interference in the 2016 elections. Matt Taibbi, in Rolling Stone, called the report by NBC a “transparent hit piece”. In The Intercept, Glenn Greenwald wrote that what he found “particularly unethical about the NBC report is that it tries to bolster the credentials of this group [New Knowledge] while concealing from its audience the fraud that this firm’s CEO just got caught perpetrating on the public on behalf of the Democratic Party.”

    • Replies: @Jeff Davis
  7. @Tired of Not Winning

    Totally agree. To those who saw it, that’s what Tucker’s monologue was all about last night. Anti-war with America-first anti-immigration is the winning ticket. Unfortunately, from what I’ve been able to gather, take away her principled anti-war stance and Tulsi’s just another bleeding-heart liberal democrat. She did back Sanders after all. Maybe Tucker, who has often had her on his show, can straighten Tulsi out.

  8. Gabbard should switch parties and challenge Trump. I would vote for her. She has no chance at all as a Democrat. Obviously she cannot be allowed to participate in the Democratic debates.

    But her reasons for running probably do not include winning the nomination. I wish her well. But I will never support a Democrat. Not even one I respect. I’m a white man. It’s not about the POC. My fear and loathing pertains to the white liberals.

  9. @Diversity Heretic

    That’s the $64,000 question, isn’t it? Both Obama and Trump were elected as anti-war candidates, and look what happened? The Deep State, i.e. the Permanent Government, is probably more powerful than any elected president, who will be there for at most 8 years. But who else out there beside Tulsi has the guts to take on the Hegemon? I think she means what she says, while Obama and Trump did not.

    • Replies: @nickels
    , @c matt
    , @Wally
  10. We’ll know she’s being taken serious when, like Donald Trump in 2016, AIPAC summons her to appear before the Learned Elders of Zion to pledge fealty to Israel and the holohoax.

    • Agree: Wally
  11. Toxik says:

    All Tulsi has to say to those warmongers: I went to war. Did you? I saw my brothers and sisters die and be maimed. Did you?

  12. @follyofwar

    follyofwar—Tulsi in her own words:

    ● ‘Immigration is a tremendous economic benefit for Hawai’i and our country as a whole.’
    ● ‘Trump’s comments on immigrants fly in the face of aloha spirit, American values.’

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @KenH
  13. She has no chance and isn’t going to go against immigration.

    It doesn’t really matter what they say anyway, because it’s just lies to get elected.

    Once elected they do what the nose tells them to do.

    If she’s CFR, she’s an open borders globalist.

    Trump was adamantly anti-war during his campaign, and then the nose stepped in and fixed it.

    I read that everything Trump said, all of those lies, all of those promises, were the result of analytics.

    I was dubious at first, but now I think it’s true. He quite literally just mouthed what we wanted to hear, and then did what the nose told him to do.

    Obama got the peace prize and did more drone strikes than Bush.

    Tulsi would be anti-war right up to her inauguration, then the reality that the nose OWNS her entire party would sink in and she’d realize who’s the boss.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @OEMIKITLOB
  14. Lot says:

    Tucker promotes Tulsi because she divides and embarrasses the Democrats. I agree with him doing this.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  15. Lot says:
    @Johnny Rottenborough

    Thanks.

    Giraldi and his fans here are cool with mass Third World migration to the USA if it means finally electing out and proud anti-Israel politicians like Ilhan Omar and the other Congressmuslima.

    • Replies: @Ace
    , @Moi
    , @Moi
    , @Colin Wright
  16. renfro says:
    @Sako

    Despite Gabbard ticking off both those boxes, wouldn’t you know It? Suddenly the importance of having a non-White or female President mysteriously vanishes! Suddenly it’s our duty to have the lecherous, creepy old white dude in office! Suddenly the importance of Diversity (“diversity is our strength” don’t you know?) vanishes into the ether when Tulsi comes up.

    Exactly…you nailed it.

  17. renfro says:
    @WorkingClass

    But I will never support a Democrat. Not even one I respect. I’m a white man. It’s not about the POC. My fear and loathing pertains to the white liberals.

    Well that’s dumb.

    • Replies: @srm4649
  18. renfro says:

    I had concerns about her ties to India and therefore Israel.
    But I doubt she would let Jews or Israelis run the US like Trump does.
    Trump has gathered the US Jewish vultures to handle his ”deal of the century’…..and that deal will be raping Palestine and as much of the ME as they can.
    Given the opportunity I don’t know whose throat I’d cut first…probably the little girlie fop Kushner.

    White House invites key Trump business allies to Bahrain forum in search for a Middle East ‘deal of the century’…..CNBC

    [MORE]

    The White House has invited some of President Trump’s key business allies to an event in Bahrain intended to kick-start the administration’s long-awaited Middle East peace plan. The Bahrain meeting will focus on the economic part of the “deal of the century,” which has been led by Jared Kushner. Tom Barrack, CEO of real estate investment firm Colony Capital, will be heading to the event. Blackstone’s Steve Schwarzman, BlackRock’s Larry Fink and Goldman Sachs’ Dina Powell were also invited.
    Tom Barrack, a loyal supporter of the president and the CEO of real estate investment firm Colony Capital, will be heading to the event slated to start on June 25 at the Four Seasons in Bahrain’s capital, Manama.
    “Tom is pleased to be a participant in a well organized forum for the purpose of advancing the peace process in the Middle East,” said his spokesman, Owen Blicksilver. “He has been a lifelong advocate of economic prosperity being a foundation stone of hope for the entire region especially its exploding young and largely unemployed population.”
    Blackstone CEO Steve Schwarzman, BlackRock CEO Larry Fink and Goldman Sachs’ Dina Powell are among the heavy hitters who have been invited to the gathering dubbed “Peace to Prosperity,” according to people familiar with the planning.
    Schwarzman is likely to attend, one of the people said, while Fink will not be going due to previous commitments, a separate source added. It’s unclear whether Powell, a former deputy national security advisor under Trump, will join the group.
    Schwarzman is a top donor to Trump’s reelection campaign. In 2017, he contributed $344,400 Trump’s joint fundraising committee.
    Blackstone, BlackRock and Goldman Sachs all have extensive ties to the Middle East, including offices in Dubai, Riyadh and Tel-Aviv.
    A senior administration official did not deny that Schwarzman, Fink and Powell were invited to the forum.

    The Trump White House and its associates have close ties to Bahrain. Reuters previously reported that the administration was pursuing a nearly $5 billion sale of F-16 fighter jets to island nation in the Gulf. The president’s outside lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, landed a security consulting contract with the country’s Ministry of Interior, The Daily Beast reported.
    A team of White House officials led by Kushner has been attempting to bring Israeli and Palestinian leaders to the negotiating table since the administration’s earliest days. Last month, the White House announced the Bahrain summit, which was described at the time as a chance for attendees to “galvanize support for potential economic investments and initiatives that could be made possible by a peace agreement,” with a particular focus on Palestinians.

    Meanwhile, Palestinian business executives are turning down invitations to the event, which Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has ripped.
    “Trump’s ‘deal of the century’ will go to hell, as will the economic workshop in Bahrain that the Americans intend to hold and present illusions,” Abbas said last week.

    Kushner, in a recent interview with Axios, fired back at the Palestinian government, and blamed the leadership for the loss of U.S. aid that was cut from the West Bank and Gaza.
    “The actions we’ve taken were because America’s aid is not entitlement. Right, if we make certain decisions which we’re allowed to as a sovereign nation to respect the rights of another sovereign nation and we get criticized by that government, the response of this president is not to say, ‘Oh, let me give you more aid,’” Kushner said.

    Representatives from wealthy Gulf states the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia will be attending. Officials from Qatar are set to take part as well.
    Barrack, who was the chairman of Trump’s inaugural committee and is a grandson of Lebanese immigrants, has a long history of attempting to make inroads in the Middle East, particularly through advocating for business investments.
    While Barrack is not running point on the Trump administration’s efforts, he is still deeply involved in the process. He authored a white paper for the administration titled “The Trump Middle East Marshall Plan,” which specifically mentions expanding U.S. and international business opportunities there as a way to unite the region.

    • Replies: @Sbaker
  19. anonymous[151] • Disclaimer says:

    This woman is a proud Hindu Nationalist, even if she tries to deny it now.

    https://theintercept.com/2019/01/05/tulsi-gabbard-2020-hindu-nationalist-modi/

    These hindu nationalists are the same pagan satanic evil, who got re-elected handsomely in Hindustan. For good measure these scum even elected the following animal, a fact you guys could potentially be interested in, because it involves the murder of three of your own.

    https://www.tiranganews.in/politics-news/pratap-sarangi-humble-minister-who-was-bajrang-dal-state-chief-when-graham-staines-was-killed/

    TL;DR

    Sarangi is all this — and more. He was the state coordinator of the Bajrang Dal when a Hindu mob burnt alive Australian Christian missionary Graham Staines and his two children in 1999.

    You guys want her as your presidente? Lol!

    • Replies: @Moi
    , @anon-Indic
  20. nickels says:

    I like Tulsi a lot. We’ve almost forgotten what a serious person looks like, and she is one of the 3 or 4 in Washington.
    Her Democrat satanic baggage poisons the well, but she is still an inspiring figure, in my view.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  21. nickels says:
    @follyofwar

    Yep and yep.
    Voting is basically irrelevant, but its still fun to play to thought game.

  22. @follyofwar

    if she was not anti-2nd amendment I would consider her…

    • Agree: Al Liguori
  23. Biff says:

    The one glaring example of how the media can deep six a political candidate is the story of Ron Paul’s presidential run in 2012. After tying for first place in the Iowa Straw Poll with Michelle Bachman he was disappeared from the media completely. His name was never mention again, and the RNC stole his delegates. He became persona non grata.

    This is probably Tulsi’s future.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @gsjackson
  24. SND says:

    Well, I strongly believe Putin is misunderstood & think Gabbard is really fine, so in my political survey (n=1) the Daily Beast is right on!

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  25. alexander says:

    Dear Phil,

    Right now, Tulsi is the only candidate who matters.

    I hope she wins the nomination…… by a landslide.

    The United States, due to the abysmal stewardship of our neocon oligarchs , is in a wholly unprecedented and catastrophic situation.

    They know it, I know it, and the majority of Americans are fast waking up to it.

    Never before in US history, has so much taxpayer solvency been squandered through acts of wanton criminal war.

    The utter decimation being wrought upon countries around the world …. which never attacked us, AT ALL,…… is beyond human imagination.

    Moreover,our Neocon Warmongers eighteen year assault on the federal balance sheet , has been so massive, so larcenous and so protracted ….it has all but eviscerated the credit worthiness of the Nation.

    They have QUADRUPLED our ENTIRE NATIONAL DEBT in a mere 18 years.

    IT IS BEYOND BELIEF.

    Even as I write this, steps are being taken by all the major world powers to eject the US dollar as the worlds reserve currency.

    If this happens, nobody will continue to buy our currency …..or our bonds.

    The heinous 22 trillion dollar debt, created by our neocon warmongers, will not be underwritten anymore, anywhere.

    The US will have to turn “inward” to deal with this fiscal abomination , and dare I say that when this happens…… a “solvency holocaust” will truly be upon us.

    The greatest nation on earth, turned belly up, in a mere twenty years …….all due to pernicious….. Neocon …..War Fraud.

    Shameful.

    • Agree: Ace, Robjil
    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @mish39
  26. Realist says:

    I agree with Gabbard’s anti-war policy, but she is a one trick pony….albeit very good at her one trick.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  27. Realist says:
    @Robert Dolan

    It doesn’t really matter what they say anyway, because it’s just lies to get elected.

    And that is why I have cast my last vote.

    • Replies: @RVBlake
  28. RVBlake says:
    @Realist

    Agreed (Last “Agree” was not long enough ago)

  29. Ace says:
    @Tired of Not Winning

    Total fraud is correct. He refuses to characterize the illegals as invaders and to anchor any action in response in his responsibility under Art. IV, Sect. 4 to repel invasion. He insists on pretending that his authority to act is founded in legislation pertaining to “emergencies” of which we possess an infinite supply.

    All while he sends more troops to the ME but not to our border. As a wag on ZeroHedge observed, Trump has spent more time at the Wailing Wall than on our southern border.

    And while every month 100,000 invaders are released into the interior of the US.

  30. Ace says:
    @Lot

    In what parallel universe is that the case?

  31. Moi says:
    @Brooklyn Dave

    Tulsi is my preferred candidate. That said, I’m disappointed that she “served” in Iraq, a country which we invaded and devastated on a total lie that it had nukes. Also, I believe now she has distanced herself from ring-wing US Hindu groups who are strong supporters of the genocidal Indian prime minster Modi.

    That said, I admire Tulsi for going against the grain of our Zionist-run Congress and our crypto Jewish prez.

  32. Ace says:
    @follyofwar

    Her ultra-leftism is off-putting. I can only think she could not be elected in Hawaii if she didn’t mouth the sacred truisms.

  33. Moi says:
    @Lot

    No shit–you’re right!

  34. Moi says:
    @Lot

    So what’s wrong with Ilhan Omar? Is that she’s Muslim? Two people in Congress I admire are AOC (who’s to young of run for prez) and Omar. Both have cojones.

  35. Moi says:
    @anonymous

    India is a polluted shit-hole run by a genocidal, Hindu nationalist PM, with almost half of parliament members under some kind of criminal charge.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
  36. dvorak says:
    @follyofwar

    take away her principled anti-war stance and Tulsi’s just another bleeding-heart liberal democrat

    Worse than that, she’s a Hindu nationalist. She wants as many Hindus as Whites in the U.S., if not more.

  37. @Mike Zwick

    The war party has many tentacles. The mainstream media and cable are fundamentally just their propaganda service. Fellow corporatists supporting each other’s revenue stream. Then RT comes along, and does journalism — demonstrates some journalistic integrity — and the world is turned upside down. All of a sudden the truth — mostly — is declared Russian propaganda.

    Awakening from the bad dream of neoliberal servitude will cause cognitive dissonance, confusion, and distress. Learning the truth, even a little bit of Truth, is almost like poison when, for a lifetime, you’ve been fed nothing but lies.

  38. c matt says:
    @Tired of Not Winning

    Agree, but . . . even if elected, she would run into the same AIPAC and pro-cheap labor lobbies that have stymied Trump (assuming Trump wanted to do anything about these issues). Even if she wanted to do something about War and Immigrants, she would up against a united establishment from both parties. Having a D after her name would not count for much.

    • Replies: @Tired of Not Winning
  39. c matt says:
    @follyofwar

    Not just Trump and O, but Clinton and Bush II as well. I recall Bush II’s tag line of a “more humble foreign policy.” How’d that work out?

  40. Anon[960] • Disclaimer says:

    Going to war is a last resort, like using a gun on that guy breaking into your house is a last resort. You should not be anti-war period like Gabbard, but recognize that you should not promote war for no good reason, but you might have to resort to it if there’s no other choice.

    But it’s plain that if Gabbard had been president when Pearl Harbor was attacked, she would have been a lousy commander-in-chief. When the going gets rough, you need a man in charge. The fact that she’s yammering on about war, when right now we’re being flooded with a massive invasion of immigrants from south of our border that will change our country permanently–and we are not at war with anyone in Mexico, or Central or South America–indicates she likes to focus on less important things because it’s too hard and messy to tackle the big problem. Women always ignore the elephant in the room.

    Here’s a pair of her talking points from her own website: “It’s critical to allow refugees to seek solace in our country.” “Tulsi is urgently fighting for legislation to protect millions of young people from deportation with end of DACA (Deferred Actions for Childhood Arrivals).”

    To heck with her. She’s a fool, and a good example of why you should not let women be in charge.

    • Replies: @RVBlake
  41. c matt says:
    @Moi

    I appreciate Omar’s anti-AIPAC stand, but her and AOC’s gibmedats and immigration policies would destroy us.

    Both may have cojones; neither have brains. You need both.

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @mish39
  42. c matt says:

    Or to put it another way: brains without cojones is powerless; cojones without brains is reckless.

  43. RVBlake says:
    @Anon

    And she has hopped aboard the Boycott Georgia train because of the new heartbeat law.

  44. As long as she doesn’t grab zio funding, I am in. I just sent a check to her campaign.

  45. renfro says:
    @c matt

    You’ve already been destroyed. Omar and AOC had both the brains and the balls to identify your real enemy. Your ass is owned buddy, lock, stock and barrel…..and it took two women to say it….not a sign of a man with any balls in congress.

    Florida’s Governor just signed a bill that will censor criticism of Israel throughout the state’s public schools
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    Michael Arria on June 6, 2019 23 Comments

    U.S. Congressman Ron DeSantis of Florida speaking at the 2017 Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in National Harbor, Maryland. (Photo: Gage Skidmore)

    [MORE]

    
    On May 31, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed a bill that prohibits anti-Semitism in public schools and universities throughout the state. However, the legislation also equates criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism, effectively censoring the advocacy of Palestinian rights.
    Two days before DeSantis officially signed HB 741 into law in Florida, he carried out a symbolic signing during a ceremonial state cabinet meeting in Israel. The session featured a variety of Israeli speakers and culminated with Florida lawmakers issuing a declaration of support for the country. “Since we’re in Jerusalem, we may actually get some interest in our Cabinet meetings for a change, which would be great,” joked DeSantis during the meeting. A number of news organizations filed a lawsuit against the state’s government, claiming that the meeting violated Florida’s transparency law, as it took place in a foreign country and wasn’t made publicly accessible to journalists. Although they weren’t officially listed as members of DeSantis’ delegation, he was accompanied by pro-Israel megadonors Sheldon and Miriam Adelson.
    HB 741 states that, “A public K-20 educational institution must treat discrimination by students or employees or resulting from institutional policies motivated by anti-Semitic intent in an identical manner to discrimination motivated by race.” The bill identifies anti-Semitism as calls for violence against Jews, Holocaust denial, or the promotion of conspiracy theories that target Jewish people, but it also contains an entire section that equates Israel critcism with the prohibited anti-Semitism. This includes, “applying a double standard to Israel by requiring behavior of Israel that is not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.” According to the bill’s text, criticism of Israel is always anti-Semitic unless it is “similar to criticism toward any other country.”
    “We know what could happen in Florida from the chilling effects we’ve already seen elsewhere: human rights defenders will be smeared as antisemites, investigated by schools, and in some cases punished. Events will be cancelled, or censored via bureaucratic harassment. Theses will not be written. Debates in class will not take place. And many activists will self-censor out of pure exhaustion,” Palestine Legal’s senior staff attorney Meera Shah told Mondoweiss, “All of this profoundly diminishes Florida’s ability to educate students to be leaders in a global economy.”
    The House version of HB 741 was sponsored by State Representative Randy Fine, a rabidly pro-Israel lawmaker who has held office since 2016. In April, after Sen. Audrey Gibson voted against HB 741’s companion bill and called it “divisive”, Fine denounced the Senate Democratic Leader and called on Democrats to “hold her accountable.” “It is sad that in the world propagated by Washington Democrats like Congresswomen Ihlan Omar and Rashida Tlaib and Tallahassee Democrats like Audrey Gibson, fighting anti-Semitism is ‘divisive’, said Fine, “In this time of rising anti-Semitism around both the country and globe, it is unconscionable that the most powerful Democrat in the Florida Senate would vote against banning discrimination based on anti-Semitism.”
    That same month, Fine made headlines for referring to a Jewish constituent as “Judenrat”, a term used to describe Jews who collaborated with the Nazis during World War 2. Fine used the word in reference to Paul Halpern, a Palm Bay resident who organized a panel discussion regarding the Israel/Palestine conflict. Fine took to Facebook to criticize the panel for being anti-Semitic. “First, there is no ‘Palestine,’” Fine wrote, “Second, having a bunch of speakers who advocate for the destruction of Israel but promise that this one time they won’t, is a joke. We should not engage these bigots. We crush them.” After Halpern pushed back on this assertion and pointed out that the majority of the panelists were Jewish, Fine responded, ″#JudenratDontCount..I know that Judenrat liked to keep tabs on all the Jews in order to report back to the Nazis back in that time, but no one is making you continue that tradition today.”
    “In my mind, Judenrat is the worst thing that you can call a Jewish person,” Halpern told the Huffington Post, “He’s despicable as a representative and a person.”
    Governor DeSantis is a close ally of the President and some believe that the Israel trip could help deliver Florida for Trump in 2020. “For a lot of Jewish voters, this trip puts an exclamation point on the Republican Party’s commitment to Israel and to Jewish people,” the Republican Jewish Coalition’s Neil Strauss recently proclaimed, “We saw a nice rise in support for Gov. DeSantis and we want to keep that going. Florida is the best example of where if Republicans gain Jewish voters, it can make a real difference.”

    • Agree: Moi, Beefcake the Mighty
    • Replies: @Biff
  46. gsjackson says:
    @Biff

    I remember in 2011, I believe it was, he was leading in the polls and I heard a radio talking head opining: “I think we can all stipulate that Ron Paul is not a viable candidate for the nomination, but …” For a moment there I wondered why we could all stipulate that, and then it occurred to me to notice the commentator’s last name. He was using the royal we, as in we the Chosen. RP not an Israel lickspittle? End of story.

    • Replies: @Biff
  47. FB says: • Website

    Well…a lot of the comments here are ridiculous…it’s like the guy who has cancer and somebody comes along with a cure, but he says ‘fuck it’ because it doesn’t involve ice cream…

    Yet these same morons support Trump who has only done things for Israel’s benefit so far…and even though Trump supports legal immigration…

    Speaking of which…why don’t all these immigration zealots take up the issue with the real bosses on the matter…corporate America…?

    It’s the plutocracy that WANTS immigration at any and all cost because it creates a surplus labor pool and drives wages down…while driving shareholder profits up…the same reason is why industry is offshored, along with the jobs that go with it…it’s called labor arbitrage…

    In other words this is what CAPITALISM is about…yet here these monkeys are screaming about ‘leftist’ Tulsi because she wants Medicare for all, instead of a ripoff system that enriches a few corporate parasites…while we foot the bill…

    How much do the endless, unnecessary wars cost the taxpayer…?…[they don’t cost the billionaire class anything because they don’t pay taxes…]

    How much does corporate welfare cost the taxpayer…?…ask King Bezos how many billions he’s been gifted in ‘tax holidays’ and other such freebies…

    Tulsi’s entire approach is a major win-win for ordinary folks…right up to and including high earning professionals…

    Anybody with half a brain would be overjoyed that we even have such a person in our midst…as if we don’t have enough completely briandead zombies that are going to vote for Gore or that gay guy, or that fake ‘socialist’ Bernie…

  48. Icy Blast says:
    @Sako

    Sako, yours is one of the best posts ever on this site. I am tempted to volunteer for Tulsi’s campaign on the basis of her anti-war position alone. I did about fourteen years of active duty in the Army, and when I hear her refer to soldiers as her “brothers and sisters,” I actually get teary-eyed. I have to restrain myself from adoring her completely.

  49. @JimDandy

    Beautiful? There’s no accounting for taste, I suppose. “Progressive…woman of color” doesn’t matter to anyone other than a democrat.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  50. Sam F2 says:

    Excellent expose by Philip Giraldi, for one of our best candidates Tulsi Gabbard.
    Indeed the enemy is “the band of oligarchs and traitors that run the United States.”

  51. @Lot

    ‘Tucker promotes Tulsi because she divides and embarrasses the Democrats. I agree with him doing this.’

    If Tulsi makes Lot nervous, she must be a pretty good choice.

  52. @Tired of Not Winning

    Like me. Hopefully she is still in it when super Tuesday gets here. I’m sick of the alt right (and their tangerine leader) and sicker of blm/reparations/open borders. I now know why non voters don’t vote.

  53. Haole says:

    Tulsi is a Hawaii democrat, a very corrupt group. Tell her to comment on the kealohas, the police chief fof Honolulu and his wife are being tried for corruption and drug dealing by the feds. She and all the other dems here will not comment. She likes to rock the boat about war at the federal level but no comment on her state evolving into a third world dump.

    I think the local dems want her out, Mufi wants revenge.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  54. Biff says:
    @renfro

    .not a sign of a man with any balls in congress.

    Balls are weak and sensitive, if you want to be tough get a vagina, those things can take a pounding.

    • LOL: NoseytheDuke
  55. @follyofwar

    Yep, it is a big if. She is pretty far to the left on immigration, which is unfortunate. But I appreciate her being honest. We don’t need another lying scum like Trump.

    However, Sanders had always been anti-immigration until he started running against Hillary in 2016. He was both anti illegal immigration and anti H1b. The problem is, DNC candidates have to pander to the far left to win nomination. I’m holding out hope that he would revert back to those pre 2016 immigration positions after winning nomination. He recently came out and railed against the border invasion.

    A Sanders-Gabbard ticket might be the winning ticket.

  56. @c matt

    (assuming Trump wanted to do anything about these issues).

    That’s just the problem. I don’t think Trump ever really wanted to reduce legal immigration. He has said more than once that he wants to let “the largest number ever” of immigrants come in because “we” need these workers as we have “all these jobs coming back”, i.e. employers need their cheap labor, except instead of keeping the cheap labor offshore, he wants to bring millions of them to the US like the tech sector.

    Tucker said he supports Elizabeth Warren’s national economic plan of bringing back manufacturing jobs to save the heartland, as Trump is trying to do. Warren also wants maximum legal immigration like Trump. What good are bringing back these jobs if we are just going to import more foreign workers to work in them?

    In the end the rich will just get richer, while the rest of us have to put up with even more immigration, more congestion, overcrowded schools, crime, poverty, unemployment, underemployment, failed schools…I say no thank you! Let’s just send all the immigrants packing. We already have plenty of jobs in America, they are just all going to foreigners.

    The only job program we need is one that calls for drastic cuts in immigration. Anything else is bullshit.

  57. Wally says:
    @follyofwar

    “Both Obama and Trump were elected as anti-war candidates, and look what happened?”

    As for Trump, war in fact has not “happened”.

    Beside the silly nothing attack on an essentially unstaffed Syrian runway that was warned ahead of time, Trump has attacked no one.
    He talks a lot to placate Jews, but talk is not action.

    Obama?
    A true war monger who bombed & bombed, & bombed.

  58. @JimDandy

    Woah there bucko..can we relax with the “beautiful”..her ceiling is a 7/10

    • Troll: JimDandy
  59. Biff says:
    @gsjackson

    The royal We is in this video:

  60. @FB

    … yet here these monkeys are screaming about ‘leftist’ Tulsi because she wants Medicare for all, instead of a ripoff system that enriches a few corporate parasites…while we foot the bill…

    Sorry, I haven’t seen anyone on this thread complain about Medicare-for-all. You must have this website confused with Conservative Treehouse or something.

  61. utu says:

    Her position on immigration disqualifies her. Her loyalty to Hinduism and Indian nationalism is very problematic.

  62. @Tired of Not Winning

    Tulsi Gabbard won’t because She is waging Democratic Party race war against the Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority…….Tulsi Gabbard would massively increase the H1b…L1b Visa Program….she is already courting the Hindu “American” Democratic Party Voting Bloc…..

  63. Increasing the scale of nonwhite LEGAL IMMIGRANTS=increasing the scale of antipathy towards Christian Russia within the borders of America……..

    Tulsa Gabbard:”I want to massively increase the scale of nonwhite LEGAL IMMIGRANTS within the borders of America….”

  64. @Moi

    That said, I admire Tulsi
    ———————————–
    I don’t admire any sandniggers no matter what they say or don’t say.

    • Replies: @Moi
    , @renfro
    , @Escher
  65. Ronnie says:

    She is not an irrational supporter of Israel therefore the “””MSM””” do not support her.

  66. @Robert Dolan

    I believe you’ve summed it up well. I haven’t voted in a “national” election since W’s first term because the ballot-box is a non-answer to the dilemma.

  67. KenH says:
    @Johnny Rottenborough

    Her positions on immigration disqualify her from consideration regardless of how strong her foreing policy might be at this stage. Plus, she’s made woke statements on other social issues so in a lot of ways she’s perhaps only slightly to the right of Barack Obama with a non-interventionist foreign policy.

  68. Anon[259] • Disclaimer says:
    @BengaliCanadianDude

    She’s hotter than the women you pull.

    That’s for sure.

  69. Anon[259] • Disclaimer says:
    @Moi

    Modi is as much a Hindu nationalist as Trump is a White nationalist.

  70. RVBlake says:
    @Wally

    Launching missiles into the territory of a country with whom we are not at war is a little more egregious than a “silly nothing attack”, regardless of staffing or warnings. What wars has Trump gotten us out of? Far from withdrawing U.S. troops from the Mideast, he is sending in more because of “muh Iranian threats.” And, he is enthusiastically providing arms to his new besties, the Saudis, in their assault on Yemen.

    • Replies: @Wally
  71. awry says:
    @Sako

    Tulsi Gabbard is at least three quarters white. Her father was anti-gaymarriage. That and her not supporting the anti Russia narrative must be enough reasons for the establishment shunning her.

  72. Moi says:
    @joeshittheragman

    It’s a free country, so feel free to wallow in your hate and ignorance. Ciao!

    • Replies: @joeshittheragman
  73. MSM takeaway: “Tulsi was quoted as responding, ‘I’m not a loyal American, but a Putin puppet.’”

    I’m proud to say that a couple months ago I made my first political contribution in more than two decades to help ensure Tulsi gets a seat at the Democrat debates. She’s like a salmon swimming upstream, but y’know, some of them do make it.

  74. KenH says:

    I’ll take Tulsi baby more seriously when she shows she’s willing to walk away from all of the shekels that will be hers if she just goes along with Israel Uber Alles.

    Here’s Tulsi baby with Rabbi Shmuley and Miriam Adelson:
    If her campaign starts gaining traction she will be under enormous pressure to become more warlike for Izzy. Thus far the pressure has only amounted to a little backbiting and shaming from the (((usual suspects))) and their goy minions, but it will get far worse if her poll numbers rise. There will be Tulsi derangement syndrome.

  75. onebornfree says: • Website

    Does she propose to get US troops out of all foreign nations?

    Does she want to repeal the Federal Reserve Act?

    Does she want to end Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, all federal welfare?

    Does she want to abolish the CIA, NSA, NASA, the entire Dept. of “Defense”,Homeland Security, FBI, FDA, EPA, SEC, the Dept. of “Education” etc etc etc [ad infinitum]?

    In other words, does she propose to seriously shrink the size of the Federal government down anywhere even close to its original constitutional size/limits?

    Just asking 🙂

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @onebornfree
  76. Wake up people, a few inconvenient facts:

    1) The DNC will never, ever let Tulsi Gabbard anywhere near the 2020 presidential nomination. She is way to main stream for the crazies who now run the DNC. Ron Paul anyone?

    2) Tulsi is a politician, that means she will make promises she knows she will never be able to keep. That’s what politician’s do, they do the bidding of their “parties” and the corporations that control those parties. Barack Obama or Donald Trump anyone? Until BOTH parties are swept into the dustbin of history, nothing will change.

    3) A non-interventionist foreign policy is a pipe dream. America is a dying empire, and empires draw their last breath while neck deep in foreign entanglements. Rome anyone?

    4) Gabbard is an “Israeli apologist” just like all the rest, and will most certainly do their bidding. No politician of either party will survive if they do not kiss Israeli ass. Cynthia Mckinney anyone? The following video shows Tulsi pandering to CUFI, the most radical Zionist organization in America:

  77. @Ruiner!

    You’d think we’d have learned about “surgical strikes” in Vietnam. The following is from “The Phoenix Program” by Douglas Valentine: Because Phoenix “neutralizations” were often conducted at midnight while its victims were home, sleeping in bed, Phoenix proponents describe the program as a “scalpel” designed to replace the “bludgeon” of search and destroy operations, air strikes, and artillery barrages that indiscriminately wiped out entire villages and did little to “win the hearts and minds” of the Vietnamese population. Yet, as Elton Manzione’s story illustrates, the scalpel cut deeper than the U.S. government admits. Indeed, Phoenix was, among other things, an instrument of counterterror — the psychological warfare tactic in which VCI(Viet Cong Infrastructure) members were brutally murdered along with their families or neighbors as a means of terrorizing the neighboring population into a state of submission. Such horrendous acts were, for propaganda purposes, often made to look as if they had been committed by the enemy.

    This book questions how Americans, who consider themselves a nation ruled by laws and an ethic of fair play, could create a program like Phoenix. By scrutinizing the program and the people who participated in it and by employing the program as a symbol of the dark side of the human psyche, the author hopes to articulate the subtle ways in which the Vietnam War changed how Americans think about themselves. This book is about terror and its role in political warfare. It will show how, as successive American governments sink deeper and deeper into the vortex of covert operations — ostensibly to combat terrorism and Communist insurgencies — the American people gradually lose touch with the democratic ideals that
    once defined their national self-concept. This book asks what happens when Phoenix comes home to roost.

  78. Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard is right to warn of ‘blundering into a possible nuclear war’. But the chance of altering course is grim. Talk of ‘re-emergence of the Cold War’ is slightly inaccurate. The Cold War was the peace: we are now in an age of war. The world has experienced periods of peace (or relative peace) throughout history. The Thirty Years Peace between the two Peloponnesian Wars, Pax Romana, Europe in the 19th century after the Congress of Vienna, to name a few. The Congress System finally collapsed in 1914 with the start of World War One. That conflict was followed by the League of Nations. It did not stop World War Two. That was followed by the United Nations and other post-war institutions. But all the indications are they will not prevent a third world war. https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

  79. Saggy says: • Website

    I believe the only serious anti-war candidate is Rand Paul. The fact that he is totally ignored by both ‘left’ and ‘right’ makes me suspicious of both.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  80. Rich says:

    Tulsi gets an F- rating from the NRA and a 0% rating from the Hawaii Rifle Association. She is a strong supporter of radical homosexual rights, has a 100% rating from Planned Parenthood and NARAL, she is also a radical environmentalist, opposing the Keystone pipeline and supports the ludicrous “100% renewable” energy fantasy. She has also supported giving Medicaid to illegal aliens.

    She’s against war, okay, still not my cup of tea.

    • Agree: SBaker
  81. I know how POTUS elections are really “selections.” For me, and to date, Tulsi Gabbard’s campaign is a healthy “sound bite” which suggests an unorthodoxy to the prevailing politics of Democrat Party “frontrunners,” Biden and Sanders.

    Modern political campaigns use aggregated data to “micro-target” ZUS voters. Yahoo, Google, and Microsoft sell access of their political data to particular candidates. Hm.🤔 The enterprises “Campaign Grid” primarily works with Republicans and “Precision Network” works with Democrats. (Note: The latter service might be used by the Tulsi 2020 campaign which now must play “catch up” in order to reach The Chosen Democrat debate stage)

    P.S.: In 2008, Barack Obama’s campaign launched a data operation which assigned every US voter a pair of scores predicting how likely it was for them to cast a ballot and predicting whether they would support him.🤗 In 2012, Consultant Ken Strasma boasted that the Obama camp, “knew whom people were going to vote for before they decided.” (From June 2019 article, “Social Media in The Information Age; Big Data Collection Brings Benefits But Allows Manipulation.”

    Selah, (zzZigh), is anyone out there up for a manipulated 😕 Special Prosecutor’s investigation into data “selling,” for example, Facebook marketing of mega-data to political campaigns; uh, Selah, is a GoogleGate investigation brewing for POTUS candidate, Trump, who in 2016, cried “rigged” election?

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
  82. onebornfree says: • Website
    @onebornfree

    Almost forgot:

    Does she propose to end the federal income tax [16th amendment]?

    Just asking.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  83. “The real deal on national security” perpetuates the childish bullshitting myth that the crimes of the military thugs are to do with national security.

  84. geokat62 says:
    @FB

    Speaking of which…why don’t all these immigration zealots take up the issue with the real bosses on the matter…corporate America…?

    See Chapter 7 of Culture of Critique to get a better understanding of who pushed for the passage of the unrestricted mass immigration Hart-Cellar Act in 1965.

    It’s the plutocracy that WANTS immigration at any and all cost because it creates a surplus labor pool and drives wages down…while driving shareholder profits up…the same reason is why industry is offshored, along with the jobs that go with it…it’s called labor arbitrage…

    Ah yes, labour arbitrage. I once asked Ron Unz if he was aware of who was behind the tremendous effort in the 60s and 70s that must have been expended to open up China to foreign direct investment that ended up ripping the heart out of the American middle class by offshoring almost all of the manufacturing jobs to China. Do you think Henry Ford would have ever relocated his assembly plants to China?

    In other words this is what CAPITALISM is about…

    In other words this is what (((globalism))) is about…

    • Replies: @FB
    , @Republic
  85. One interesting thing about Tulsis’s candidacy is that it answers the question: What can I do?

    A simple $5 donation will help get her on the debate stage in September. She also needs to poll at least 2%.

    You have to go through ActBlue and they will spam you afterward with “Tulsi News” and asking for more donation, but it’s easy enough to ignore.

    She will be in the debates in June so we will get a good idea of how things look at that time. You might want to consider supporting Tulsi because you like her amti-war views or just to throw a curve ball at the Democratic Party and the Warmongers generally.

    Either way it’s something you can do and it doesn’t cost much.

    https://www.tulsi2020.com/

    • Agree: RobinG
  86. War is the zionists controlling agenda over the zio/US and also destroys the mideast for the greater Israel agenda and benefits the zio/banking kabal that owns the Feral Reserve and thus makes TRILLIONS in profits for the zionist banking kabal while killing millions of men, women and children and thousands of Americans and crippling hundreds of thousands of Americans, so for Israel and its dual citizens it is a win/win.

    Today is the 52nd anniversary of the deliberate Israeli attack on the USS LIBERTY which was on 6-8-1967 and killed 34 and wounded 171 out of a crew of 294, in an attack that lasted 2 hours and only stopped when a Russia destroyer came upon the scene and offered to help the USS LIBERTY and stood by her until an American carrier arrived!

    War is the official policy of the zio/US and Israel, read The Report From Iron Mountain and read War is a Racket by General Smedley Butler and read the section of Orwells 1984 where he speaks of perpetual war by Oceania and Eastasia and Eurasia, war is a zionist racket to bring a zionist NWO!

  87. @KenH

    Tulsi Gabbard wants Native Born White America Working Class members of the US Military who served in Iraq-Afghanistan who upon being discharged from the US Army to get those tech jobs the US Army recruiters said were waiting for them…….to compete in globalized US Domestic Labor Markets with Hindu “American” Scab Labor….

    Tulsi Gabbard is a pock-marked faced Samoan-Swedish Whore….

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    , @renfro
  88. aspnaz says:

    You want to know what she will do? Investigate who is paying for her campaign. She will only do what her financiers want her to do. Same with the Don, there is no way that the Don spent his own money on getting elected, that was provided by his bosses who decided his actions: stated policy means nothing. Actions are what counts.

  89. @anonymous

    “proud Hindu Nationalist,”

    Do you mean to say that she has dual loyalty, to India and America?

    Do you have any actual evidence or you are just a religious bigot?

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
  90. G says:

    ASD was set up in 2017 by the usual neocon crowd with funding from The Atlanticist and anti-Russian German Marshall Fund.

    Just in case it wasn’t clear already: There is nothing German in this organization and everything Zionist, anti-German and US, but about as US as Project for a New American Century is.

    If anyone ever was to get serious about restoring genuine democracy, unelected, untrasparent, subversive organizations like these should be entirely banned. They actually undermine democracy in the West. – But of course that will never happen. Not because of the abuses of representative democracy, but because of the functionality of representative democracy. Alexis de Tocqueville may have been right about the idea that it produces better, more qualified politicians in general than direct elections, but it is to vulnerable to groups acting as subversive agents entirely ouside of the demos.

  91. @aspnaz

    You want to know what she will do? Investigate who is paying for her campaign.

    Save us all some time. Who?

  92. @Wally

    “As for Trump, war in fact has not “happened”.”

    Really? Well it hasn’t stopped happening either, has it? All of the existing neocon wars he inherited are still ongoing and he installed warmongering neocons in his cabinet. You should just say that Trump hasn’t gotten his own war yet, but he’s working on it.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski, RVBlake
    • Replies: @Wally
  93. geokat62 says:

    Mayor Bill de Blasio of NYC called out for spreading lies about so-called “white supremacy”:

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  94. @BengaliCanadianDude

    “Woah there bucko..can we relax with the “beautiful”..her ceiling is a 7/10”

    Maybe…..to someone who is so horny that he’d fuck a rosebush if he thought there was a snake hiding in it. 2/10,maybe.

  95. @Anon

    I might stipulate that she’s almost as hot as a cup of coffee poured yesterday and left on the counter until closing time.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  96. Agent76 says:

    Who’s Afraid of an Open Debate? The Truth About the Commission on Presidential Debates

    The Commission on Presidential Debates is a private corporation headed by the former chairmen of the Republican and Democratic parties. The CPD is a duopoly which allows the major party candidates to draft secret agreements about debate arrangements including moderators, debate format and even participants. The result is a travesty riddled with sterile, non-contentious arguments which consistently exclude alternative voices that Americans want to hear.

    The 2012 Debates – Memorandum of Understanding Between the Obama and Romney Campaigns

    https://publicintelligence.net/obama-romney-debate-mou/

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Prester John
  97. @War for Blair Mountain

    “Tulsi Gabbard is a pock-marked faced Samoan-Swedish Whore….”

    When you’re right, you’re right. Thanks for not posting that line in all caps.

  98. And what do you look like Twodees? Please provide a photo. Your comments are, by the way, disgusting.

    • Agree: FB, renfro, Cloak And Dagger, Iris
    • Replies: @FB
  99. Wally says:
    @RVBlake

    Launching a few missiles to an empty airfield whose occupants were warned is hardly Operation Desert Storm.

    Now you’re desperately moving the goalposts, changing the subject to “what wars has Trump gotten us out of”. Please review the comment I responded to. Pay attention.

    Wow, putting vulnerable troops on aircraft carriers, and more important, keeping them there, is not exactly the invasion of Normandy. As I said, lot’s of talk.

    Wow, selling arms to ‘allies’, not exactly unique to Trump.

    • Replies: @RVBlake
  100. Wally says:
    @Twodees Partain

    You’re being intentionally vague, dodging, and changing the subject since you cannot demonstrate that Trump has sent US troops to invade another country.

    Neocon activity is hardly new under Trump. Pay attention.

    Indeed, there are warmongers around him, but so what? There are warmongers all over the US government. I hope that’s not news to you. But as I said, Trump has invaded no one.

    If Trump wanted a war, he certainly could have one.

    Cheers.

  101. @geokat62

    Hey geokat!

    Am a suspicious dumb goyim especially when it comes to my “Homeland’s” Zionist Corporate Media which Brother Nathanael has so we’ll identified in a Real Jew News video.

    Now we have what seems to be the truth-telling Fox News Network “Talking Head,” Tucker Carlson who tends to give hope to perhaps even you, my Bro geokat.

    Hm. A question. Can Tucker walk alone & independent from Zionist mind games, (a national psy-op program) which could raise faith among dumb goyim that a sector of their MSM is free?

    As web friends, can you let me know what you think about my (standard) U.R. comment-perceptions from which I have yet to deviate? My thanks & respect, geo!

    • Replies: @geokat62
  102. FB says: • Website
    @geokat62

    In other words this is what CAPITALISM is about…

    In other words this is what (((globalism))) is about…

    Sure…keep telling yourself that it’s the Jews hiding under your bed…

    Why does Germany and Russia have 12 million immigrants each…?

    I guess the Jews are running things there too…?

    Britain and the other European countries full of immigrants…I guess they were brought in to fill the synagogues…not the sweatshops…?

    McCain was very big on immigration…complaining that Americans wouldn’t do farm labor for 50 dollars an hour [as if that was somehow outrageous in a country where billionaires get trillions in taxpayer money as handouts]…

    On another thread Godfree Roberts posted a comment from a manufacturing director he personally knows that wrote a rant about how useless American workers are…he mentioned 12 dollars an hour as a ‘decent’ wage for an assembler in an electronics factory…how can anyone live on 12 dollars an hour…?

    It’s no wonder the US is descending to third world status…the people are just too dumbed down…they are indoctrinated to worship the ideology of the billionaire class, even though this ideology is what makes them poor and miserable…that’s real smart right there…

    Of course it’s always easy to blame some kind of childish bogeyman, instead of addressing the real causes…

    As to Henry Ford, he acted more like a socialist than a parasite…he paid his workers double the going rate and people thought he was crazy…but his logic was sound…saying people needed to have money if they were going to buy his cars…until then cars were for the rich, and the people building them couldn’t hope to buy one in a hundred years…

    Today people only need credit…not a decent living wage and money in their pocket…that’s the result of the massive undercutting of wages, plus the ascendance of finance over industry…so-called ‘globalization’ is the result of conditions created by capitalists and financiers that allows free movement of labor and capital across national borders…it’s the logical evolution of a process that started with people, even children, working basically as slaves for 12 hours in inhuman conditions…in underground mines, factories, railways and plantations…for a ‘wage’ that was barely enough to keep them alive…

    But this history of capitalism doesn’t exist for fools like you…only your little hobby horse on which you rock back and forth, never actually going anywhere…of course, since it’s a children’s toy not an actual conveyance…

    The motivation of the Jews hiding under your bed is simply that they hate white folks…and that’s why we have ‘globalization’…?

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @geokat62
  103. @Moi

    And just what’ve you got against hate and ignorance? Come to think of it, you sound like a hater yourself.

  104. FB says: • Website
    @Philip Giraldi

    And what do you look like Twodees?

    Artist’s rendering…

    • Troll: Twodees Partain
  105. RVBlake says:
    @Wally

    I don’t care who you responded to…I’m responding to you. Pay attention.
    If you interpret Trump’s support of the ongoing military catastrophes as A-OK because he “hasn’t started any new ones,” you’re not moving the goalposts; you’ve demolished them.
    Sanctions on Iran and Venezuela, i.e. not the invasion of Normandy but acts of hostility regardless.
    And launching missiles into a foreign territory with which we’re not at war doesn’t have to be Desert Storm, it’s still wrong. You seem to be ignorant of that morality thing.

    • Agree: Colin Wright, lavoisier
    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @RobinG
  106. Thank you Philip Giraldi.
    FYI, anyone who speaks against the interests of the MIC in the US not only he/she won’t go to far also may even get tired of screaming from the sidelines. It’s the state of total sadness.

  107. @Wally

    Wally said: “If Trump wanted a war, he certainly could have one.”

    Above, Hahaha!

    Get real, Wally? (Zigh)

    Adelson & Netanyahu wants war with Iran & Syria, and you figure t-Rump does not want that? Haha.

    The only thing that prevented a “Fire & Fury” ZUS attack upon Syria, & full blown Greater Israel-advantaged Assad regime change,😈 was Russia’s mighty military presence.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  108. SBaker says:
    @Brooklyn Dave

    Yep, she’s a peach alright. She calls herself a Samoan before an American, and a woman of color, to use identity politics bait as a source of power. She is a warrior by training but screams she is anti-war. Is she anti-military too? She must have learned that in military academy. And so goes the political BS rolling off her tongue while wearing a mask of deception. In the last election she came out in strong support of Bernie the commie/socialist pig–her character model. Tulsa also seems enchanted by the sex-offender alphabet crowd (LBPTQH). Her actions speak loudly, her words screeching in the wind.

  109. @Wally

    How was I vague? My statement was straightfoward. Trump has maintained the wars for Israel. He is, as you say, surrounded by warmongers, but he put them in their positions himself, in the case of his appointees.

    I nether dodged nor changed the subject. You’re the one doing that with your reply.

  110. renfro says:

    Interesting.

    Second former GOP state senator found shot dead in two days, this time in Oklahoma

    ://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-second-state-senator-found-dead-from-gunshot-oklahoma-20190607-y3m6zo2gnvh25cu46fprk5cfni-story.html

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  111. @Rich

    If that doesn’t say it all, nothing does. Tulsi Gabbard “closet lefty”, case closed.

    • Agree: Rich
  112. @Wally

    You and Trump need to get a room…

  113. @SBaker

    Was the Somoan-Swedish Whore doing patrols in a live fire zone? Was she in fire fights?

  114. @Twodees Partain

    That’s only because I didn’t have my 5 shot cappuccino this morning…..

  115. JimDandy says:
    @Twodees Partain

    ‘“Progressive…woman of color” doesn’t matter to anyone other than a democrat. ‘

    Yes, genius, and the MSM is 100% democrat. If she played ball with the Zionists re: foreign policy, she would be a bonafide media darling.

  116. Rurik says:

    A war with Iran would take far more American lives, it would cost more civilian lives across the region… Not to speak of the fact that this would cost trillions of taxpayer dollars coming out of our pockets to go and pay for this endless war that begs the question as a soldier, what are we fighting for? What does victory look like? What is the mission?”

    “what are we fighting for?” !

    I guess there’s a sad precedent for this kind of outwardly attractive woman.

    Anyone doubting our Eternal Wars for Israel, are obviously Putin/Hitler stooges subverting ((our)) democracy!

  117. JimDandy says:
    @BengaliCanadianDude

    Your mom is a 7/10, Sport–technically speaking–but she has a certain something that keeps the men paying for her company.

  118. She has zero chance.

    Her poll numbers are low.

    Biden is at the top, has the money and name recognition.

  119. @WorkingClass

    ” I will never support a Democrat” : Dittos, a thousand time over, Democrats are to put it mildly : Crazy as hell.

    Anyone who believes a single word from the mouth of a Democrat is out of his/her mind period.
    Plus There is something abjectly wierd and strange about a military officer, who is a Democrat.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz artist.

  120. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    One position ie :antiwar position will effectively gutted the careers of a lot of psycho if antiwar ever gets real traction in American lives and it forces its way in the media. Once psycho like Graham Rubio Clinton Cotton Cruz Warren Pelosi are out , Kristol Kagan Chertoff will be also and so will the FDD and JINSA would suffer . The domino effects will wake up the positive energy in many fields .

    We really need one issue genuine candidate and that issue is :No War and Bring The Soldiers Home”

  121. @Anon

    What’s with the random insults? Did I hit a nerve? I still think she’s a decent politician

  122. Sbaker says:
    @renfro

    Are you Muslim? Just curious?

    • Replies: @renfro
  123. @JimDandy

    Are you a nine year old Minecraft or Call of Duty game ? Why so emotional lol

  124. Alt Right position:

    1)pull the US Military completely out of the Middle East

    2)Bring all the Troops home from overseas…wherever they are

    3)Cut all military aid to (((OUR FRIEND ISRAEL)))

    4)Cut all economic aid to (((OUR FRIEND ISRAEL)))

    5)Cut the Pentagon budget by 3/4

    6)shut Nonwhite LEGAL IMMIGRATION DOWN TO 0 FOREVER….

    7)A highly RACIALIZED National Origins Immigration Policy that excludes all nonwhites forever…

    8)BRING BACK THE 1882 CHINESE LEGAL IMMIGRANT EXCLUSION ACT

    9)build a large monument in California to Socialist Labor Leaders Denis Kearney and Samuel Gompers…

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  125. renfro says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    From what you sound like this is what you look like.

    • LOL: Cloak And Dagger
  126. renfro says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    I am wondering.
    Tried to find a link between them but found none except standard GOP positions.

  127. JimDandy says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Whereas you jack off exclusively to old pics of Golda Meir.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  128. Is this the same Tulsi Gabbard listed on the Council of Foreign Relations membership list?

    https://www.cfr.org/membership/roster

  129. Rurik says:
    @KenH

    she’s perhaps only slightly to the right of Barack Obama with a non-interventionist foreign policy.

    Perhaps Trump was a God-send if only for the appointment of judges and Justices. Perhaps in that limited context, (and insofar as he resists another war), he’ll have redeemed himself to a slight degree.

    But on every other metric, he’s been a disaster. Our borders have been flung wide open, and the .01% are gorging in the slop trough of Fed QE and rampant corruption, as the middle class dies, the Total Surveillance Police State burgeons, and censorship is rampant.

    Even the moldering sow at Buckingham has warmed to that tool of ((global finance)).

    I know Tulsi is not going to stave off the inevitable death ((murder)), of Heritage America. But we have to at least repudiate Trump for his treachery and betrayals. Particularly if he gives Bolton/Adelson a free hand to start a war with Iran/Russia/China.

    It sort of comes down to a single issue: (((war))).

    Yes, white folks are doomed to a future of ethno-hatred and persecution. Nothing it seems we can do about that. Too many Jeff Flake/John McStain fellow travelers like Romney in the Senate and Justin Amash in the House. Not to mention the excruciatingly stupid Republicans who vote for them.

    But at least we don’t have to continue sending our young ones to die in Eternal Wars for Israel.

    That is perhaps, the most depraved humiliation of all. Murdering and dying for the benefit of your most determined, pernicious and genocidal ancient enemy.

    ‘we died for Shmuley’

  130. renfro says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Get some plastic surgery and your teeth fixed Twiddle De and maybe you can get a girl a tad less ugly than you.

    • Replies: @Prester John
  131. @Realist

    I have just looked her up her bio and CV online and it is quite apparent that she is no one trick pony, not that there is anything to suggest that economics or fiscal policy provide her favourite bedtime reading.

    • Replies: @Realist
  132. renfro says:
    @Sbaker

    No, I am white man and southerner.
    Why do you ask?

  133. renfro says:
    @joeshittheragman

    The sandniggers dress better than you do ragman….clean yourself and quit stinking up the place

  134. KenH says:
    @Wally

    From your comments it’s obvious you’re no fan of Jews or their holohoax legend but Trump is a huge partisan of the Jews and a true believer in the holocaust. If Trump saw your comments on Unz he would condemn you (and me and many others) so why do you doggedly defend him? Especially when his top advisor is an ultra liberal New York Jew named Jared Kushner with deep ties to Bibi Netanyahu.

    Defending him from the charge of Russian collusion is one thing because that was complete deep state fabrication, but reneging on campaign promises and becoming a (((neocon))) apprentice is another and he deserves to be blasted over that.

    It’s been said Bill Clinton was the first black president and one could make the argument that Donald Trump is the first Jewish president.

  135. SBaker says:
    @Rich

    She is also a muslim supporter just as most members of the demorat party seem to be. Every muslim pig ever elected has been a demorat including Barack Hussein Oburka. And, because she went to a military academy and is a member of the military does not make her anti-war. She may say she wants no wars, but that doesn’t mean there is a shred of truth in her claims.

  136. She only has half the answer. Her position on immigration disqualifies her. As for how she stands on the rest of the issues, those are far downstream.

    The only viable candidate is the one who first puts a full stop on immigration to the US, including the immediate expulsion of all illegal aliens, visa holders, “refugees,” asylum seekers, and whatever other euphemism we have for gibs seekers. I’m also for the expulsion of any naturalized “citizens” guilty of committing a felony, but we’re already way ahead of ourselves. The goes along with the immediate closure of any business/corporation found employing the above, along with the arrest of its owners/board members/ and seizure of all its assets.

    An immediate withdrawal of ALL US military forces from everywhere around the world begin concurrently.

    Nothing else matters if ether of these two issues is left unaddressed.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  137. SBaker says:
    @renfro

    Why? Because you and many others on this site provide supporting comments for muslim pigs in general. Just look at the positive support for the genitally-mutilated Somali that goes by the name of Inbred Gomar.

    • Replies: @renfro
  138. RobinG says:
    @Agent76

    AGREED (button used). One thing I can say for Trump, he owned those debates. It was beautiful.

  139. Realist says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    The only thing I agree with Gabbard on is anti-war there for she is a one trick pony to me.

    • Replies: @Realist
  140. @KenH

    Kushner is in my opinion Mossad and is Trumps handler for Israel!

  141. Realist says:
    @Realist

    Should read …therefore…

  142. Sorry, but:

    a) vegetarian
    b) Hindu
    c) childless woman
    ….

    disqualifies her.

  143. RobinG says:
    @FB

    …a process that started with people, even children, working basically as slaves for 12 hours in inhuman conditions…in underground mines, factories, railways and plantations…for a ‘wage’ that was barely enough to keep them alive…

    Robots.
    U.B.I.
    Energy?

  144. RobinG says:
    @RVBlake

    Sanctions on Iran and Venezuela

    Yes, sanctions are acts of war. Don’t forget blowing up Syrian oil tankers.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  145. renfro says:

    Trump Deal Allows US Bomb Parts to Be Made in Saudi Arabia

    Raytheon says nothing unusual about US technology transfer
    Jason Ditz/ June 7, 2019

    President Trump’s arms deal with Saudi Arabia was already highly controversial because of the number of civilians being killed by the Saudis with US-made and -provided bombs. Yet the controversy may well grow from here.

    That’s because the US isn’t just sending billions of dollars worth of arms to the Saudis. The Trump Administration is also allowing armsmaker Raytheon to transfer highly sensitive US weapons technology to Saudi Arabia, to make many of the bomb parts in Saudi Arabia.

    The technology transfer will allow the Saudis to produce many of the most important parts, and in time, produce their own version of the Raytheon Paveway smart bombs. This would in the long run remove Congressional oversight from the arms transfer, by making the Saudis self-sufficient in the smart bombs that have been killing thousands of civilians in Yemen.

  146. @Rurik

    Jesus Christ Almighty in Heaven….that photo….

    Donald Trump and his RETARD Slovenian Slut Wife are pure evil……

  147. renfro says:
    @SBaker

    Why? Because you and many others on this site provide supporting comments for muslim pigs in general. Just look at the positive support for the genitally-mutilated Somali that goes by the name of Inbred Gomar.

    The me and many others call it like we see it re US interest, Muslims, Jews , Blacks, Mexicans., etc…..and white trash.

  148. @renfro

    Thank you for getting such a good shot of me.

  149. What make you think The Nose won’t have her wearing a funny little cap and molesting a magic wall like the last 4 presidents?

    Also anti-gun, and if ever claimed to stop immigration (cutting off her party’s NUMERO UNO SOURCE of new welfare insta-voters) you’d be foolish to believe her.

    #RepealThe19th

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  150. gsjackson says:
    @Rurik

    Rurik, if memory serves you stopped giving Trump the benefit of the doubt about three or four months ago after the latest egregious Israel butt-kissing — Jerusalem or the West Bank, I believe. Don’t you think it’s possible the butt-kissing is just optics?

    I confess to following the Q material with great hopefulness that it is the administration’s position. Q has said one thing about Israel — they will be dealt with last.

    Q Anons say the borders haven’t been flung wide open. The wall is being built and apprehensions of illegals are up dramatically. I know — statistics can and are brought into the defense of virtually every position. But is there really reason to think Trump isn’t serious about immigration?

    Trump has Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, the TPP (which I think inflamed the Deep State much more than is generally perceived), withdrawal from the Paris Accords fraud, actual diplomacy on display in numerous theaters. On matters the corporate media won’t cover, such as child trafficking, Anons say there has been significant progress. The number of missing children is supposedly way down. They say forced resignations of some really bad DS actors throughout government and the corporate world are numerous (can anyone provide another explanation for Paul Ryan’s disappearance?).

    As far as new wars go, the only thing that’s happened so far is Bolton, Pompeo and Abrams have been allowed to look like the idiots they are in Venezuela. I predict Iran will be a similar clown show for them.

    It’s still wait and see on Trump from where I stand.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Johnny Walker Read
  151. Rich says:
    @Rurik

    Tulsi Gabbard is a classic, left-wing liberal. She’s anti-1st, 2nd and 10th amendment. Her election would mean more far left judges, more radical decisions, more over-regulation by government agencies and even more illegals allowed into the US. She, and just about any other democrat would be a disaster for America and the rest of the world.
    As to your charges against President Trump;
    1. Every attempt to deport illegals and to prevent more from coming in has been blocked by democrat appointed judges.
    2. The .01% have always gorged and always will. QE wasn’t brought in by Trump and he has cut hundreds of regulations as well as cutting taxes for the majority of Americans. Both the poor, and the rich, will always be with us.
    3. Technological advance cannot be stopped and surveillance is inevitable. These existed before Trump, and will exist after him. If anything,he stands as a bulwark against federal regulators making any expression of White pride, illegal.
    4. The US has an all-voluntary military. Every young man who enlists knows what he’s signing up for, or at least should. And up to this date, he hasn’t started any new wars, he just hasn’t knelt to America’s enemies.
    Don’t be fooled by Tulsi’s stated anti-war stance, Obama ran as an anti-war candidate, too and Tulsi has , on numerous occasions, expressed her dearest love of Israel. The one issue Americans should be concerned about is preserving their historic national population and preventing its replacement.

    • Agree: SBaker, Republic
    • Replies: @Rurik
  152. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Tucker Carlson who tends to give hope to perhaps even you, my Bro geokat.

    Hope for me Chuck comes from listening to the real truth tellers like Phil Giraldi, Rick Wiles, and a few others, tell it like it is. Being a part of the Lugenpresse of Weimerica, TC is not in the same league as the aforementioned individuals. That’s because he can stray only so far from the official narrative before he falls in deep dodo.

    As web friends, can you let me know what you think about my (standard) U.R. comment-perceptions from which I have yet to deviate?

    Chuck, it appears that you and I are indeed on the same page when it comes to believing that change can come from the political process that has been hijacked by Jewish supremacists. The gatekeepers are responsible for the production of this bogus spectacle every four years and the pathetic voters keep pulling on the one armed bandit hoping they finally hit packpot! Ain’t gonna happen.

    The sooner “the people” realize this, the better.

  153. RobinG says:

    Seek help!!! Q Anon is a cult.

    It’s still wait and see on Trump from where I stand.

    That’s just what “Q” wants from you: stand in a corner and do nothing.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @gsjackson
  154. @renfro

    Could have served as an advertisement for Julius Streicher’s “Der Sturmer” back in the day.

  155. @renfro

    A prototypical “Millenial Democrat”.

  156. gsjackson says:
    @Rurik

    And on the other criticisms you raise: Anons insist that Trump is setting the Fed up to be taken down, and a total reset of the economy will take place.

    Middle class dying? The entire focus of his economic program is supposed to be repatriating lost middle class jobs.

    Total surveillance state? Currently being made good use of, according to Anons. The NSA, military intelligence, indeed has everything on everybody, including the Deep State. They conceive it as a battle of the white hat NSA versus the corrupted elements of the CIA and other intelligence agencies. Admiral Mike Rogers, former head of the NSA, is the hero of heroes; Snowden a black hat CIA operative planted in the NSA to take them down.

    Censorship? Trump has been speaking out against this. I think the ball game here is getting Twitter, Youtube, Facebook, etc. characterized as the public square for constitutional and/or antitrust purposes. There is some useful case law.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  157. @Agent76

    Answer: Get rid of the two -party system, a 19th century relic.

  158. Rurik says:
    @gsjackson

    you stopped giving Trump the benefit of the doubt about three or four months ago after the latest egregious Israel butt-kissing — Jerusalem or the West Bank, I believe

    Thank you for the thoughtful post, gsJackson.

    I agree it’s very difficult to know what goes on behind the curtain.

    The more the leftists are apoplectic, the more I enjoy the Trump show. Yes, I suspect TPP really pissed them off. And Paris as well.

    There are sound reasons for being grateful it’s Trump and not Hillary. As big as a disappointment Trump has been, Iran (and Lebanon and Syria and Venezuela and others) would be in smoking ruins, and we’d likely be in a hot war with Russia under the War Hag.

    I agree Trump has done some good things, just as he’s done alarming things, like presuming to have the authority to gift Israel ancient Syrian territory.

    But then perhaps, a lot of that, just like with Jerusalem, it simply symbolic. I don’t know.

    Looking at the Florida governor, it seems like anyone with political ambitions really has to eat the shite right out of Sheldon Adelson’s arse, if they want to prosper politically. So maybe just the fact that we’re not at war with Iran, as I write this, it Trump’s greatest triumph, because that’s obviously what the tribe would like him to do, yesterday.

    No one knows the kinds of back room dealings there are. But we all know the tribe wants Total War on all of Israel’s well-earned enemies, and immigration and cultural sewage are all just amusements, as they agitate for more and more war.

    Every single congress POS is eager to sell out America to get reelected, and they all know they have to lick the shekels out of Sheldon’s (or (((Haim’s or whomever’s))) **** in order to get good PR from the (((media))), so I really don’t know what is going on, or if Trump is a total sell-out, or not.

    The day I’ll know for absolutely certain, is the day our troops and bombs descend on Iran (or Venezuela or wherever…).

    Then, I’d say he should tried in a court of law, and like Saddam and the Nazis and others, and then hanged by the neck for treason and waging Aggressive War.

  159. renfro says:

    The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee won’t act against student who held up a swastika sign and called for Jews to be gassed

    The chancellor said his institution ‘will always be a forum for the free exchange of ideas’
    https://www.thejc.com/news/us-news/the-university-of-wisconsin-milwaukee-student-held-up-swastika-sign-called-for-jews-to-be-gassed-1.484463

  160. renfro says:

    Belgian prosecutors drop case against cafe owner who welcomed dogs, but not Jews

    June 7, 2019 1:36 pm

    A sign saying no Jews are allowed at a cafe in Belgium in 2014. (Courtesy of the Belgian League Against Anti-Semitism)
    (JTA) — Prosecutors in Belgium dropped criminal complaints against a Turkish café owner who put up a sign banning Jews.
    A café in the town of Saint-Nicolas had displayed a sign saying dogs are welcome at his business, “but Jews are not.”
    The La Dernière Heure newspaper on Friday reported that the Prosecutor’s Office in Liege dropped discrimination charges filed in 2014 against the owner, who was not named in the report.

  161. Rurik says:
    @Rich

    And up to this date, he hasn’t started any new wars,

    agreed

    I’d like to elaborate, but I have to go take care of some business.

  162. renfro says:

    Maryland suburb of DC to screen anti-Israel film
    June 7, 2019 3:28

    WASHINGTON (JTA) — A Maryland suburb of Washington D.C. is screening an anti-Israel film narrated by Roger Waters as part of a free documentary series.
    “Occupation of the American Mind” is being shown by the municipality of Takoma Park on June 13 as part of the town’s “We Are Takoma” free cultural event series, taking place in its community center.
    “‘Occupation of the American Mind is a captivating documentary that reveals how the Israeli government, U.S. government, and pro-Israel lobbying groups have engaged in a decades-long propaganda campaign to shape American media coverage of Israel and its occupation of Palestinian lands,” says a blurb on Culture SpotMD, a culture website paid for in large part by Montgomery County, where Takoma Park is situated.
    Waters, the Pink Floyd member, has become a leading advocate of boycotting Israel.
    The Jewish Community Relations Council of Greater Washington asked the municipality, a famously liberal enclave that includes a thriving Jewish community, to reconsider showing the film.

  163. renfro says:

    Sanders and Warren help introduce resolution against Netanyahu’s West Bank annexation pledge

    The resolution was introduced by Sen. Jeff Merkley, D-Wash., joined by Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, the deputy minority leader, Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., Tammy Duckworth, D-Ill. and Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.

  164. renfro says:

    American judge claims Jews should ‘get the f**k over the Holocaust’

    Jewish News-May 10, 2019
    Among the Jewish groups that have called for Lammey’s censure are the Anti-Defamation League Southeast Region, Jewish Federation and .

  165. gsjackson says:
    @RobinG

    What exactly do you mean by cult, other than a repetition of how the corporate media try to make the phenomenon invisible? Standard Operation Mockingbird procedure — call something a cult or a conspiracy theory. Q is a person or persons who posts on a corner of the web where the posts can’t be tampered with and purports to speak for the administration. That is undeniable. It is almost undeniable that Q is a Trump insider, as evidenced by photos from inside the oval office and Air Force One, predictions made that were borne out, Trump’s subtle acknowledgments, etc.

    This is, to my knowledge, an unprecedented set of circumstances. So I guess your position would be that Q has been set up to distract the public from the malevolent purposes Trump intends on behalf of Israel and the Deep State (as if the corporate media haven’t always been entirely sufficient for that). Therefore we should ignore Q, and “do” what exactly? Impeach Trump and install arch-Zionist and “free trader” Mike Pence?

    I don’t really invest a lot of hope in the Q narrative. I follow it with great interest, and a modified form of Pascal’s wager.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @DESERT FOX
  166. renfro says:

    The chosen are very upset that they haven’t been on the front page of the NYT often enough.

    Only Six Times in nearly Six Years did the NYTime’s Front page mention Jews as Hitler’s unique victims.

    https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/unfreedom-of-the-press-and-the-new-york-times-holocaust-cover-up/

    This is probably what the Judge meant when he said Jews should ‘get the f**k over the Holocaust’.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  167. @geokat62

    I parted company with Tucker Carlson about a year a go when he said that 911 truthers were nuts, and like Mark Twain said, if voting made any difference they wouldn’t let us do it!

  168. @gsjackson

    Hell will freeze over before the zionist water boy aka Trumpster moves against the zionist money creation machine the FED aka the feral reserve and the zionists control mechanism over America, Trump is a judas goat leading us to the kosher slaughter house!

  169. RobinG says:
    @gsjackson

    Impeach Trump and install arch-Zionist and “free trader” Mike Pence?

    Raising straw men won’t decrease your cult status.

    • Replies: @gsjackson
  170. @gsjackson

    Q is a total deep state scam!

    • Replies: @gsjackson
  171. geokat62 says:
    @FB

    Sure…keep telling yourself that it’s the Jews hiding under your bed…

    Hide? Are you kidding me? As mentioned previously, the 800 lb gorillas are parading past you in red yarmulkes emblazoned with Trumpstein and you’re too blind to see them.

    Why does Germany and Russia have 12 million immigrants each…?
    I guess the Jews are running things there too…?

    Have you viewed the video where Barbara Lerner Spectre explains that Jewish supremacist NGOs (like OSF, HIAS, IsraAID) are actively facilitating the invasion of Europe by refugees?

    Britain and the other European countries full of immigrants…I guess they were brought in to fill the synagogues…not the sweatshops…?

    Allow me to introduce you to Barbara Roach and David Schwarz.

    In 1999, Ms. Roach was appointed by the traitor Tony Treasonous Blair to be his immigration minister,

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/03/11/roche-motel-revisited-the-comfort-of-an-atomized-society/

    While Barbara was very keen on Britain embracing multiculturalism, for some mysterious reason, she vehemently opposes the Jewish state being subjected to the same level of cultural enrichment. Do you have a satisfying explanation for why that is? I didn’t think so.

    David (((the Swede))) Schwarz, was similarly instrumental in almost singlehandedly transforming Sweden into a multiculti hell hole. https://www.amazon.com/How-Sweden-Became-Multicultural-Eckehart/dp/9188667146/ref=nodl_

    He, too, however wishes to see the Jewish state remain Jewish. Noticing a common theme, here, oh wise one?

    It’s no wonder the US is descending to third world status…the people are just too dumbed down…they are indoctrinated to worship the ideology of the billionaire class, even though this ideology is what makes them poor and miserable…that’s real smart right there…
    Of course it’s always easy to blame some kind of childish bogeyman, instead of addressing the real causes…

    The people aren’t being indoctrinated to worship the doctrines of capitalism, they are being indoctrinated to worship the doctrines of Cultural Marxism, an ideology that was formulated by the Frankfurt School in the 1930s to combat antisemitism by destroying the fundamental pillars of Western society, including the love of family, church, and country. You should give the Authoritarian Personality a read some day and give us your personal book review.

    As to Henry Ford, he acted more like a socialist than a parasite…Today people only need credit…not a decent living wage and money in their pocket…that’s the result of the massive undercutting of wages, plus the ascendance of finance over industry…so-called ‘globalization’ is the result of conditions created by capitalists and financiers that allows free movement of labor and capital across national borders…it’s the logical evolution of a process…

    Henry Ford was a nationalist first and a capitalist second. This was the predominant reality for centuries until the Cultural Marxists inverted everything and now the business elite are capitalists first, second, and third.

    But this history of capitalism doesn’t exist for fools like you…only your little hobby horse on which you rock back and forth, never actually going anywhere…of course, since it’s a children’s toy not an actual conveyance…The motivation of the Jews hiding under your bed is simply that they hate white folks…and that’s why we have ‘globalization’…?

    We have globalization because ever since the end of the Second World War, nationalism has been under attack. After decades of drinking the Cultural Marxist kook-aid, we are finally beginning to see a long awaited resurgence of nationalism (see latest European election results and the Yellow Vest movement) and this has the (((globalists))) shaking in their boots.

    If the nationalists win this epic battle against globalists, the forces that pushed for the great labour arbitrage might be reversed… notwithstanding capitalism’s desire to maximize profits.

    Makes sense, oh great-sage-of-the-ages?

    • Replies: @FB
  172. Art says:

    Tulsi Gabbard is a pre 1960s person with strong patriotic sensibilities. She reminds me of JFK – she is a true patriot and like JFK she is a liberal but is practical.

    When it comes to economics, she is not a card carrying liberal. She supported Trump on leaving the TPP and his economic fight with China. She wants to help the middleclass and the poor – good on her.

    She has the same enemies as JFK – the CIA, the Jews, and the MIC.

    Like JFK she is fighting 100s of billions of dollars being spent on globalism, the Jews, and the US military. He paid with his life!

    Let us hope better for Tulsi.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. If Gabbard can get her peace message out in the 2020 primaries and Trump wins – she could be a real contender in 2024.

    • Agree: RobinG
    • Disagree: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @RobinG
  173. RobinG says:
    @RVBlake

    “Venezuelans march to protest Washington’s plans to sanction and destroy the CLAP program for low cost food distribution to millions of families in need. The Trump administration plans to starve Venezuelans into submission and not a peep from anyone in Congress.” @MaxBlumenthal

    Marcha CLAP en #Venezuela: Este sábado el pueblo venezolano se manifestó en contra de las políticas impuestas por el Gobierno de #EEUU, las mismas afectan el ingreso de los contenedores de alimentos @teleSURtv

  174. @renfro

    No, I am white man and southerner.

    You are lying. Where’s the ‘a’ in your sentence? You may consider yourself white just because you’re not black or yellow. But it all makes sense now. You ain’t no White man.

  175. RobinG says:
    @Art

    …..she could be a real contender in 2024. Sure, but why not now? 2024 may be too late.

    Tulsi supports reinstating Glass-Steagall, and perhaps also a national infrastructure bank. She would drop all charges against Julian Assange, and end the war on whistleblowers. She’s 100% right to focus on foreign policy and the war machine that affects every aspect of our lives.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Art
  176. @War for Blair Mountain

    ‘Alt Right position…

    Just delete ‘nonwhite’ from (6). This makes (7) and (8) redundant.

    We need more people — of any kind — why?

  177. @geokat62

    geokat knows, and articulated my “Homeland” presidential election/selection reality: “The (Jewish supremacist) gatekeepers are responsible for the production of this bogus spectacle every four years and the pathetic voters keep pulling on the one armed bandit hoping they finally hit packpot! Ain’t gonna happen…
    The sooner “the people” realize this, the better.”

    Hey geokat!

    👍!

    No one established in ZUS political power & who exerts social influence– including the seductive entertainment faculties💃– and wants to hold on to such status, will ever break the bad news (quoted above) to the “people.”

    A true yarn:
    Years ago, when Linh Dinh visited my family apartment, he convinced me about the futility involved in voting for a Zionist pre-selected presidential candidate.
    Full disclosure:
    As my deep inferno-disdain proliferated for HRC’s campaign cackling, in November 2016, I (Zigh) cast my vote for t-Rump and he won my “Homeland” state, Pennsylvania. To date, L.D., whose now domiciled in Vietnam, reminds me about this avoidable naivete.

    At any rate, I move on to the curious case of the appealing & popular, Tucker Carlson, who frequently appears to be a rogue 🤔and is running free with his unorthodox & catchy political views.

    For me, Fox 🦊 News Network outfoxes their vast GOP-leaning TV audience and lends people to think that my “Homeland” Zionist Corporate Media actually supports free-wheelin’ Tucker Carlson… and uh, likes me?

    A cunning ruse, Tucker is a akin to a “pacifier” which we, the dumb goyim (as infants) got to suck on, once upon a time.

    Thanks, & as always, my deep respect, George!

    • Replies: @RobinG
  178. @SBaker

    ‘Yep, she’s a peach alright. She calls herself a Samoan before an American, and a woman of color, to use identity politics bait as a source of power. She is a warrior by training but screams she is anti-war. Is she anti-military too? She must have learned that in military academy. And so goes the political BS rolling off her tongue while wearing a mask of deception. In the last election she came out in strong support of Bernie the commie/socialist pig–her character model. Tulsa also seems enchanted by the sex-offender alphabet crowd (LBPTQH). Her actions speak loudly, her words screeching in the wind.’

    Well, ya gotta consider the alternatives.

  179. As a stray, statistically insignificant note, I’ll mention my daughter — who is politically indifferent in general — thinks Tulsi Gabbard is great and wants to know why she can’t be president.

    I bet a whole lot of people would feel the same way. That’s why she’s getting shut down so completely.

    If she ever got traction, the Zionist pseudo-progressive media machine would have one hell of a time explaining why she shouldn’t get the Democratic nomination.

    …and personally, I’d like to see Trump and her duke it out. It’d be a genuine clash of two genuine alternatives for America’s future. You know, what elections are actually supposed to be for.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  180. I’ll tell you why Tulsi Gabbard will never be allowed to get the nomination.

    Because if she did, part of her campaign platform would be, ‘we’re leaving Syria alone, and no way are we going to war in Iran.’

    And then her opponent would have to say, ‘I’m going to get out of Syria, too, and I won’t start a war with Iran either.’

    And as far as Israel is concerned, that defeats the whole purpose of America.

  181. SBaker says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    “You are lying. Where’s the ‘a’ in your sentence? You may consider yourself white just because you’re not black or yellow. But it all makes sense now. You ain’t no White man.”

    Agree. He is probably one of several muslims that post to this site.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  182. geokat62 says:
    @geokat62

    The gatekeepers are responsible for the production of this bogus spectacle every four years and the pathetic voters keep pulling on the one armed bandit hoping they finally hit packpot! Ain’t gonna happen.

    Pardon the unfortunate typo:

    The gatekeepers are responsible for the production of this bogus spectacle every four years and the pathetic voters keep pulling on the one armed bandit hoping they finally hit jackpot! Ain’t gonna happen.

  183. RobinG says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    …I (Zigh) cast my vote for t-Rump and he won my “Homeland” state, Pennsylvania. To date, L.D., whose now domiciled in Vietnam, reminds me about this avoidable naivete.

    Well, good for you! As Colin says (#183), “…ya gotta consider the alternatives.”

    Linh Dinh thinks the murderous, cackling hag would have been better? Just because he’s an artful story teller, doesn’t make him a crack political analyst. And he hangs out with you and Revusky…. does prolonged tedium salve his ego?

  184. Republic says:
    @geokat62

    Anyone know why the Ford Foundation is so globalist, when Henry Ford was a real nationalist?

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  185. renfro says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    You are lying. Where’s the ‘a’ in your sentence?

    Where’s the ‘a’ in my sentence??????……that proves I am not white?????

    rotflmao…..sorry weird one, I am white….but I do get a good tan in the summer.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  186. @WorkingClass

    Yes. I can support and respect honest and intelligent leftists, but I could never support a liberal. But as you say, doesn’t really matter as she’ll never get close to the nomination.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  187. @nickels

    Yes, no one is flawless, you take what’s available, not what you’d like to have. At any rate, for all his innumerable flaws (and yes, outright betrayals), Trump has not started any new wars. Sure, he could have done a much better job ending the ones we already have, but he faces very serious Deep State opposition. The point is, outsiders CAN make a difference, and if the MSM dislikes someone, that’s a sure sign they’re doing something right.

  188. JimDandy says:
    @JimDandy

    Ugh, what a canned response. Why did you leave out the other pre-fab retorts, like accusations that I live in my parents’ basement and have a neckbeard? Just lazy? Do you hate women because your mom was a notorious slatternly trollop? Is that it? Huh? Huh? ANSWER ME!

  189. @SND

    Putin is not misunderstood, his advocacy of a multipolar order is quite clear and sensible. It is precisely because he is correctly understood that the “Western” oligarchs oppose him.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX, AnonFromTN
  190. FB says: • Website
    @geokat62

    The world runs on money asshat…the reason immigrants are brought in is because they enrich the rich and keep the ordinary folks from getting their fair share…

    Look at Germany…they have been importing labor for seven decades now…there are third generation Turks in Germany that no longer even count as immigrants because they are citizens…several million of them…

    Multiculturalism is a fig leaf to get the people to accept this bullshit from the capitalist parasites…you are confusing cause and effect, bozo…

    Also refugees are another matter…they only popped up recently, due to the pointless western wars of regime change in the Middle East…refugees are actually a drop in the bucket compared to the millions of workers from eastern Europe…the Baltic states have lost one third their population [same for Ukraine] because all these serfs are working in Germany and other rich countries…

    This is a result of western overreach to pull these countries into the EU and Nato in order to undermine Russia…

    So how’s all of that working out…?

    You have zero idea of geopolitical dynamics at play in the world…stop wasting my time and get an education…

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @redmudhooch
  191. @Moi

    OK, let’s bring it down a few notches. Modi is a CIA thug, but “genocidal”? Come on, that is ridiculous.

    • Replies: @Moi
  192. dfordoom says: • Website
    @utu

    Her position on immigration disqualifies her.

    It makes no difference what position any candidate takes on immigration. The people who actually run the country want immigration and they’re going to get it. And no candidate, Republican or Democrat, is going to make any serious attempt to stop it.

    So you can vote for a pro-immigration warmonger, or a pro-immigration anti-war candidate.

    Immigration might be a really bad thing but I have a feeling that nuclear war might be slightly worse.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  193. @Moi

    Cannot be denied, these two non-white women have more balls than all of the white men in Congress.

  194. @Haole

    Well, ideally Hawaii should never have been a US state in the first place (or Alaska). But ultimately the prime exponent of the global drug trade is Langley, not Honolulu.

  195. @RobinG

    Gallantly confident, RobinG wrote that a POTUS, Tulsi Gabbard, would: “… drop all charges against Julian Assange, and end the war on whistleblowers.”

    In the words of my late-mother Mary, “if ‘ifs and buts were candy & nuts, oh what a Christmas it would be.”

    Nonetheless, my whistlin’ respect for imagining, RobinG! Thank you.

  196. @utu

    That is a very fair point, but ultimately, evaluate her by her enemies.

    • Agree: Iris
  197. @Saggy

    Ron was truly heroic, Rand is useless. Just another pro-Israeli tool.

    • Replies: @Saggy
  198. gsjackson says:
    @RobinG

    Oh, okay. I guess by “do” something you meant write letters to editors and congresspersons. Gotcha.

    If not, steer me in the direction of this great activist project from which the cult is distracting me.

  199. Art says:
    @RobinG

    …..she could be a real contender in 2024. Sure, but why not now? 2024 may be too late.

    Tulsi supports reinstating Glass-Steagall, and perhaps also a national infrastructure bank. She would drop all charges against Julian Assange, and end the war on whistleblowers. She’s 100% right to focus on foreign policy and the war machine that affects every aspect of our lives.

    RobinG,

    Thanks for all those fine points – Tulsi is so on the correct path. She shows America’s pre-1960s values.

    For JFK – 1956 was was a dress rehearsal for the winning 1960 election.

    In 1960 JFK had the media on his side. In 2020, because of the Jews, that will never happen for Tulsi Gabbard.

    For Gabbard to make splash in the primaries some liberal power center will have pick her as their horse in the race – like NPR, PBS, Democracy Now. Right now, that does not look likely. (Right now FOX gives her more air time then all the others.)

    Hope I am 100% wrong.

    Think Peace — Art

  200. @JimDandy

    I have to say, there has been some excellent trolling in this thread. Good summer fun!

  201. dfordoom says: • Website
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    The only viable candidate is the one who first puts a full stop on immigration to the US, including the immediate expulsion of all illegal aliens, visa holders, “refugees,” asylum seekers, and whatever other euphemism we have for gibs seekers.

    So which candidate would that be?

  202. gsjackson says:
    @DESERT FOX

    And you know this …. how? Not just taking the WaPo’s word for it, I hope. Personally, if I ever find myself in agreement with them about anything I’ll be doing a serious revisitation of my position.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  203. @KenH

    Actually, Clinton was in fact the first Jewish president, the Blacks are just for show.

    You make some very valid points, but progress is sometimes measured in small steps and while Trump could have done much more, there have been some breakthroughs, admittedly limited. It has to start somewhere.

    • Replies: @Tlotsi
  204. @renfro

    Wow; that woman is claiming the US media is not sufficiently pro-Jewish? Clearly insane.

  205. Escher says:
    @JimDandy

    Obama was created and propped up by the establishment Tulsi is not.

  206. @Republic

    The Ford Foundation was taken over by NWO zionists.

  207. @anon-Indic

    Yes, that is correct. No Indian is “loyal” to America or Canada. Only loyal to their own tribe.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Anonni
  208. @gsjackson

    Q, is a deep state ie CIA, NSA, FBI, etc. , psyop, that predicts things that would be great but never happen and gives people false hope, and no I do not have any use for the WPost.

    Q is pure bullshit for the proles!

    • Replies: @utu
  209. @SBaker

    More that several. How about many.

  210. @renfro

    But are you a Muslim “white man and a southerner?”

    You are playing semantics. Remember that MENA and Persians are considered “White” by the ZSA.. or you could also be a convert. Being a white southernor is not mutually exclusive with being a Muslim.

  211. @Colin Wright

    Colin Wright imagined, said: “… personally, I’d like to see Trump and her duke it out. It’d be a genuine clash of two genuine alternatives for America’s future.”

    Moderated by Rachel Mad😏dow, the following is what a snippet of a t-Rump/Gabbard debate would look like:

    Rachel’s question to Tulsi:
    “Given a US attack on Iran is underway while you take the oath of office, would you stop it?”

    Tulsi: (Gulp) Without presenting any convincing evidence that Iran did not deserve it, uh.., I would strongly accept what alternative shall be acceptable to the Pentagon, and er, not fear for standing up to them!”

    Rachel: Hm. That’s interesting! But “stand up” to whom, Sister Gabbard?

    Tulsi: “That’s easy, thank you. Eh-hem, I will stand up to all domestic warmongers who happen to linger around me after Donald Trump goes home!”

    With “Big Time” smirch, & roll of eyes, t-Rump interrupts:
    “So No Pulse-Tulse wants America to ‘cut & run’ from finally devastating the global terror state of Iran? Ha-ha. Yo Rachel! Get Gabbard a scabbard, will ‘ya please? (Sigh)

    Tulsi: Hmph! I am a tough GWOT veteran, Mr. President Bonespur. You know what? Intervene here on my pussy, Stormy boy!”

    Rachel professionally intervenes, slyly smiles, & announces a station break🤗 while the “two genuine alternatives” cool it, and then return to debate ZUS’s future.

  212. RobinG says:
    @dfordoom

    Immigration might be a really bad thing but I have a feeling that nuclear war might be slightly worse.

    And if you’re pro-life, nuclear war is much worse than abortion.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  213. geokat62 says:
    @FB

    The world runs on money asshat…the reason immigrants are brought in is because they enrich the rich and keep the ordinary folks from getting their fair share…

    Okay, genius. Then, perhaps you could tell us why Mark Potok of the SPLC was tracking non-white immigration into the US and Europe?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyWYYL_XgAAtBjn?format=jpg&name=900×900

    You have zero idea of geopolitical dynamics at play in the world…stop wasting my time and get an education…

    LOL. Killer argument there, Einstein.

  214. Escher says:
    @joeshittheragman

    Maybe do some research before mouthing off. Tulsi ain’t no “sand nigger”. Find the appropriate slur for her please.

    • Replies: @joeshittheragman
  215. @Carolyn Yeager

    As I said in another post, MENA and Persia is considered “White”. So he is probably some old Syrian or something living in the South.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
  216. No wonder: media, like all powers in the US, are owned by war profiteers. “No war” is good for the country, but bad for them.

    • Agree: Iris
  217. @renfro

    That doesn’t prove it. But I’d say you were a little unsettled to tell an outright lie about yourself, so your speech reflected it. There are all the things you have said, even just to me in these threads, that support it. Like when I criticized Philip Giraldi for failing to take on the ‘Holocaust’ and you replied, after coming across as a strong denier previously, that the ‘Holocaust’ was not important anymore but Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians was. Typical Muslim attitude. And many more such instances.

    Yes, I bet you have a good tan. I have no problem because you’re not White, but I don’t like dishonesty. And what race your are does color your comments. The same goes for your friend Cloak & Dagger. And God knows how many.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @ChuckOrloski
    , @renfro
  218. Ronnie says:

    Our Jewish controlled MSM support the deep state (Clinton/Obama era has-beens and Neocons) and the Deep State supports Israeli engineered brutality against the Palestinians and the theft of their land and resources. It is that simple.

  219. dfordoom says: • Website
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Yes, that is correct. No Indian is “loyal” to America or Canada. Only loyal to their own tribe.

    In case you hadn’t noticed, no member of the elite is loyal to his country. The elites don’t think of themselves as having a country or a race or an ethnicity. They have one identity – they see themselves as members of the elite. Which makes them a superior species with nothing in common with the non-elites.

    The idea that Indians or any other ethnic group (including Jews) are disloyal is an irrelevant distraction. It’s the elites who are disloyal. Whether they’re immigrants or native-born, whether they’re Jews or Gentiles, regardless of ethnicity, their disloyalty comes from their identification as elites.

    They don’t see themselves as part of a master race, but as part of a master social class.

    • Agree: FB
  220. JJ says:

    Love the free pass everyone gives CONgress and sticks the blame on Trump here.

    “He lied”. “He went back on his promise”. Pretty tough to get things done; and this a Democom bulwark; migrants flooding the country. It’s their platform.

    ..yet it’s Trumps fault. Sure.

  221. Iris says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Yes, I bet you have a good tan.

    Give it a rest, Carolyn. Renfro is too young for you.

    • LOL: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  222. @Colin Wright

    Only of the European Kind!!!!….Say it loud and clear in public…watch Noam Chomsky go into a state of open genocidal rage against our people….and the rest of the rancid Democratic Party Voting Bloc…….This should be the future strategy of the Alt Right….No more philosophizing….

    Tulsi

    Why do you view Russia as our adversary? You would concede this point to Willie Brown’s Ho-Bitch Kamala in a POTUS DEBATE?

  223. dfordoom says: • Website
    @RobinG

    immigration might be a really bad thing but I have a feeling that nuclear war might be slightly worse.

    And if you’re pro-life, nuclear war is much worse than abortion.

    Well yeah, that is a good point.

    The prospect of nuclear war does kinda make other issues seem pretty trivial.

    And in the current geopolitical situation nuclear war seems much much more likely than it ever did during the Cold War. And it’s the United States that seems determined to provoke WW3. Sane voices are just not getting listened to any more. Tulsi seems to be the only halfway sane candidate who might at least encourage some sensible discussion.

  224. @Sick of Orcs

    In regular sceptical contrarian spirit I noted the assumption that a woman would be able to molest the wall like any man and followed up on my doubt. It was rewarding.

    For example

    https://progressive.org/dispatches/israel-women-wailing-wall/

    Enjoy

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  225. @Carolyn Yeager

    Hey Caroline Yeager!

    A reasonable question.

    In the ZUS nationwide public school system, and in contrast to knowledge about OBL and let’s say Vladimir Putin, do you think Hitler & Goering are more known to High School students?

    Fyi, as a Scranton School bus driver & this past October, (for the helluva it), I polled a few rather bright freshmen soccer player passengers to see if they ever heard of the war criminal, Eichmann,👹and his Nuremberg trial.

    None knew anything, Ms. Yeager! Nonetheless…, did they know who is Robert Mueller and what is “Russiagate”? Hm.🤔 Chances are 50-50 they did.

    Thanks, & please try to cease piling-on the extraordinary work of Dr. Giraldi, & let me know what you think about my Scranton school bus poll?

    P.S.: I admit that knowledge on the Holocaust gas chambers is more vividly abhorred by high school students than are the 9/11 Dancing Israelis.

  226. @Escher

    Ok, So I “researched” it and it says on her bio she’s a practicing hindoo. So that makes her a sandnigger in my book.

    • Replies: @Escher
  227. Tulsi

    In the POTUS debates you really need to stick to Willie Brown’s SYPHYLLITIC Ho-Bitch Kamala Harris…..

    Accuse Donald Trump of being a War Criminal for aiding and abetting ISIS and Al QUEDA in Syria….then accuse Kamala Harris of supporting the exact same policy in Syria as Donald Trump……

    So Tulsi…you need to explain in great detail how Donald Trump aids and abets ISIS and AL QUEDA in Syria….

    Tulsi Shmulsi…do the right thing…

  228. @dfordoom

    The elite are jews.

    Their loyalty is to Israel.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  229. geokat62 says:
    @dfordoom

    In case you hadn’t noticed, no member of the elite is loyal to his country…

    They don’t see themselves as part of a master race, but as part of a master social class.

    Almost, but not quite true. There’s one elite that is loyal to their own ethnic/religious group and country. Care to guess which one it is?

  230. utu says:
    @DESERT FOX

    Q psy-op operates on the principle that hope dies last. It is direct at diehard Trump supporters. Fairy tales and wishful thinking.

  231. @dfordoom

    Yes but…. What of all the upper classes whose young men have nearly all gone off to war, very often at great risk of death, injury or capture? Of course neither Clinton nor George W. put themselves at risk in the Vietnam War as JFK and No.41 did in WW2 so perhaps you are noting a change, not least in America. If so, why and when? Or your test of loyalty is narrow?

    I note that, in so far as putting one’s life at risk is the test the end of conscription and reliance on all volunteer armed services after Vietnam may have some relevance. I have heard it suggested that most of the grunts are recruited by poverty and that their families are often on food stamps which is perhaps consistent with your class based analysis.

    (Another pointer to what you say not being true historically. Consider Teddy Roosevelt’s attitude to to the idea that any of his sons might not serve and risk death).

    • Replies: @FB
    , @dfordoom
  232. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Robert Dolan

    The elite are jews.

    Their loyalty is to Israel.

    There are lots of non-Jews among the elites. And, amazingly enough, the non-Jewish elites are every bit as malevolent and civilisationally destructive as the Jewish elites. Which suggests that the elite are evil because of the very nature of the elite – they have abandoned the loyalties to everything but the elite. There are certainly evil Jewish members of the elite, but there are even more evil non-Jewish members of the elite.

    But if you want to make sure that critics of the existing system have no chance of ever being taken seriously then by all means keep harping on your obsession with the Jews.

    • Agree: redmudhooch, AnonFromTN
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  233. @Iris

    That is really lame, Iris. And to you also, Chuck. Not at all original. Why not stick to your own battles.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  234. @FB

    How dare you come here to Unz making sense and stating facts like that! What are you sane or something?

    Capitalism pffffftttt!!!! America is a RADICAL MARXIST COMMUNIST BOLSHEVIK country!!!! There is no such thing as greedy capitalists and capitalism!!!!! Its the COMMUNIST BOLSHEVIK FASCIST NIGGER FED!!!!!

    Its the Jews goddammit! JEWS! JEWS! JEWS! Everything from the boogers in yer nose to the dog shit you stepped in earlier at the park, ALL OF IT, a Jew put that dog shit there just so he could laugh at you! Everything, EVERYTHING leads directly to the Jews! ALL OF THEM, NO EXCEPTIONS!

    Jewish capitalists do NOT exist, all Jews are COMMUNIST BOLSHEVIK MARXIST RADICALS! They made up only 2% of of 200 million Russians but managed to overthrow the wonderful and beloved capitalist government there and killed 6000 BILLION Christian Russians for no reason whatsoever, even though there aren’t that many Russians, and they would have needed those Russians for their COMMUNIST slave state, never mind all that shit that makes no sense! They undoubtedly killed them and made them disappear somewhere. Those dastardly JEWS alone did that, no Russian gentiles whatsoever were involved, they loved their wonderful government!!!! The Church was just as awesome and honest as ours here in America, who the hell would want to overthrow that?

    You’re obviously a victim of some of the RADICAL LEFTIST LIBERALS brainwashing DIRECTED ENERGY BEAM WEAPONS! This results from sleeping on a COMMUNIST CHINA made steel coiled mattress!! Thats how the brainwash you man, THE JEWS!!!! The steel coils in the mattress picks up the brainwashing energy beams and turns your brain into a SOCIALIST COMMUNIST sympathizing stew!!! It also shrinks your penis! Don’t get me started on the BEANERS and RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISTS!!!!

    Oh how wonderful America would be if we only had super rich capitalists who owned stocks and bonds and real estate and made lots of money, not by working, but off of capitalist profits and rents. How wonderful this capitalist America would be if rich capitalists ruled over us all, if every leading politician was a rich capitalist, often times funded into power by even richer capitalists and always doing the bidding of super-rich capitalists. How wonderful this capitalist paradise would be if we also had a Federal Reserve, also run by rich capitalists, sitting at the ready to come to the rescue of rich capitalists anytime capitalism hit the skids. But how could we ever achieve such a capitalist paradise? The COMMUNIST MARXIST RADICAL Jews are all thats holding us up!

    The one thing we don’t want is for the working-class to hold state power (i.e., socialism). Capitalism would die an ugly and immediate death if rich people who don’t work could no longer exploit the masses who labor every day.

    Sad.

    • Replies: @FB
    , @geokat62
    , @Rurik
  235. FB says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz

    What of all the upper classes whose young men have nearly all gone off to war, very often at great risk of death, injury or capture?

    Once again you prove to be planted firmly in disneyland…

    Prince Harry really put himself at ‘great risk’ in Afghanistan I suppose…with a full complement of Praetorian Guards hovering over him and ready to take a bullet…not that that was ever likely to happen as they kept him always at a safe distance from any real action…

    It was all PR shtick…meant to be lapped up by gullible stooges like yourself…

    That’s how it’s been for a very long time…the scions of the aristocracy very rarely, if ever, ended up as corpses on a battlefield…oh sure they sometimes put on the uniform and might have even got close enough to hear some cannon rumble in the distance…

    You would have to go back to the days of tribal warfare when leaders actually led the charge to battle…that was another world…

    Blizzard of Schnozz takes the dumbest comment honors once again…

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  236. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz

    Yes but…. What of all the upper classes whose young men have nearly all gone off to war, very often at great risk of death, injury or capture? Of course neither Clinton nor George W. put themselves at risk in the Vietnam War as JFK and No.41 did in WW2 so perhaps you are noting a change, not least in America. If so, why and when? Or your test of loyalty is narrow?

    The elite class of today is not the same as the elite class of a century ago. Elites are not permanent. Old elites lose power and status and are displaced by new elites. In Britain for example the old landowning class lost much of its power to the rising capitalist class which forced its way into the elite. In the 20th century the managerial class started to displace the existing elites. We also saw the emergence of intellectual elites and media elites.

    The elites of the past had to have some loyalty to country, even if the motivation was merely their desire to protect their landed estates or their factories. The newer elites that emerged in the 20th century lacked that loyalty to country. They had an internationalist mindset (probably partly as a reaction to what they saw as the destructiveness of nationalism in the world was).

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  237. I like Tulsi. Its pretty infuriating how the corrupt media is throwing her under the bus with their fake polls and shitty coverage. They won’t even show her when they’re showing lists of the candidates. I don’t think it will wok, people have woke up to their BS. I’ve seen many online polls and pretty much all of them have Bernie and Tulsi in the lead. These MSM CIA puppets should be banned from Youtube for all the mass murder and racism they incite.

    I don’t like how she always says regime change wars, I would like her to come out against the war of terror and drone terrorism as well. These are two big causes of terrorism in the world, as well as causing lots of anger and hatred towards Americans. I like that she is willing to call out other Democrats, the Saudis, and Netanyahu. Shes one of the few to speak out against stirring trouble in Venezuela, which will lead to even more refugees fleeing to come here.

    Very few politicians even talk about what is causing all the refugees fleeing into Europe and America, Tulsi has done that. I think Bernie has a better voting record when it comes to war, MIC spending and such, I’m waiting on the debates to make a decision on one of the two. Both are good.

    As of right now I’ll give her a vote and tell my friends and family to do the same. She ain’t perfect.
    I honestly don’t see much changing without at least some serious protests, interrupting businesses ability to make money, worker strikes, bank runs, shutting it down France style!

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  238. RobinG says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    You have no standing to define our battles.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  239. FB says: • Website
    @redmudhooch

    Bravo Hooch…still re-reading your piece for the non stop chuckles…it’s a keeper…

  240. Anonni says:
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Dumb racist gabbard is white.

    European immigrants vote left

    You’re just triggered by brown men

  241. @FB

    Well no one should dispute your bravery. Right in front of whoever knows who FB is you don’t mind combining misrepresenting and avoiding half of what I said and being plain wrong.

    Why bring up Prince Harry? Even if your point is right he is at least a generation behind those I was referring to.

    I didn’t refer to “aristocracy” but, if I had I could have made the Greg Clark point that the upper middle classes outbred the (traditional military) aristocracy because the latter tended to get themselves knocked off in warfare.

    If you had ever looked at the honor rolls at the great private schools of those ex students who had served and died or the same in gentlemen’s clubs that were sufficiently elitist that one I can think of rejected JP Morgan (who, with friends, started a similar but grander one) you would know that you were out of your depth and uttering nonsense.

    OMG! It’s FB who has one subject he knows something about. Why am I replying….

    • Replies: @FB
  242. @dfordoom

    Yes, it might be noted too that in (the second half of) the 20th century internationalism was promoted by jobs at the UN and its agencies and analogues in the EU, and, not least, by air travel which made it much more common to be enjoying the company of peers half a world away than ever it was in the days of steam.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  243. Escher says:
    @joeshittheragman

    “Sand nigger” is used to describe people of middle eastern descent. Look up a darn map.
    By your logic, if you are a practicing Christian it new it makes you a definite “sand nigger” too.

  244. RobinG says:
    @alexander

    Were you there? Or maybe on the sidewalk waiting for Take Two?

    Tulsi Gabbard LIVE on the road – New York Town Hall – New York, NY

    • Replies: @alexander
  245. @dfordoom

    You are full of shit.

    Do you work for the nose?

    jews are the single most influential group on earth, their influence magnified thousands of times by the fact that they have commandeered all of the control points in western society.

    While there are shabbos goy sellouts that are often used as window dressing, they are owned body and soul by the nose.

    Paul Ryan is an evil shithead, but he’s the jews’ evil shithead. John McCain was the same. Sadly, Zion Don has joined this club as well. The fact that some of our people sell their souls for shekels supports my theory, not yours.

    And frankly, I do not give a flying fuck what you think anyway.

  246. @BengaliCanadianDude

    Woah there bucko..can we relax with the “beautiful”..her ceiling is a 7/10

    Clearly she’s not a “10”, but how are you deducting 3 full points from this?

  247. Moi says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Yeah, well over 1,000 people during his watch is nothing. Right. You’re all heart.

  248. @Stan d Mute

    Yikes, Stan d Mute! Thanks for linking Tulsi’s swimsuit picture. Hubba-hubba… Who needs Sports Illustrated expensive 2019 Swim Suit issue when American dumb goyim can now look at this one?

    Fyi, as t-Rump’s deal allows ZUS bomb parts to be made in Saudi Arabia, we now know Tulsi Gabbard’s “bombshell” parts were made, for free, by God.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
  249. geokat62 says:
    @redmudhooch

    Its the Jews goddammit! JEWS! JEWS! JEWS! Everything from the boogers in yer nose to the dog shit you stepped in earlier at the park, ALL OF IT, a Jew put that dog shit there just so he could laugh at you! Everything, EVERYTHING leads directly to the Jews! ALL OF THEM, NO EXCEPTIONS!

    Rabbi Shmuley is that you?

    No, I almost forgot… these great comments were penned by a guy who worships Jordan Peterson and his bogus ideology of Radical Individualism.
    Everyone should view this video, Jordan Peterson Dismantled, to see him and his bogus ideas get exposed.

    btw – have you cleaned up your room, yet? LOL

    Seriously, dude, get a grip. If you have any doubts about the level of influence supremacist Jewry has on Western societies, I would have recommended reading Prof. Kevin MacDonald’s Culture of Critique, but it has been banned by Amazon for some mysterious reason. I would have especially recommended reading Ch. 7 on Immigration to enlighten you on who is largely responsible for the mass immigration woes afflicting almost all Western nations.

    As a second best solution, you could start brushing up on your understanding of things by viewing an excellent synopsis on Prof. MacDonald’s magnum opus by viewing all 7 episodes of Culture of Critique for Normies.

    Here’s episode 1:

    After viewing all 7 episodes, perhaps you could do us Dumb Goyim a favour and explain to us who we are not allowed to criticize and why?

    Look forward to your explanations… sooner than later cuz if things unravel as quickly as they have in the past, you may have to whisper your responses to me through the walls of a gulag.

    • Agree: Rurik
  250. KenH says:
    @Rurik

    Perhaps Trump was a God-send if only for the appointment of judges and Justices.

    I try to keep that in mind because that might be the only thing standing between heritage America and Judeo Bolshevik tyranny in the next few years. Trump’s cutting in to the left’s supermajority on the federal bench so now activist left wing judges who are gasping their last breaths and near senile will postpone retirement in the hopes that hairplugs Joe or Kamala get elected in 2020.

    But the other areas where Trump’s failed “bigly” is in fighting the ADL and SPLC inspired (((tech censorship and tyranny))) and allowing the corrupt and partisan FBI and DOJ to let antifa run amok, harass and physically assault people and destroy property while prosecuting pro-whites and Trump supports to the fullest extent of the law and then some for merely defending themselves and inflicting some pain on antifa and other lefties in the process.

    Trump hasn’t started any wars but that isn’t for lack of trying. Syria, Russia and Iran have all showed tremendous restraint in the face of U.S. provocations and some observers have said that relations between the U.S. and Russia are more tenuous and that nuclear war is more likely than at any time during the cold war. Trump’s partially responsible for that.

    Tulsi might try to keep us out of a shooting war but she’d likely be under intense pressure to move closer to the (((neocon))) positions on foreign policy and I predict she wouldn’t be able to withstand the pressure to do so. And even if she did then a (((false flag))) attack that kills large numbers of Americans would be arranged to generate outrage and war fever among Americans. Then she’d be left with no choice.

    (((They))) will not be denied of their plans of worldwide conquest and murder of white Europeans.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  251. RobinG says:
    @Stan d Mute

    It’s good to know who President Gabbard can use as a decoy, but that’s Padma Lakshmi.

  252. alexander says:
    @RobinG

    Hi Robin,

    I wanted to go so badly , but unfortunately I could not make it .

    I bet there was a monster turn out, at both events.

    I am going to donate again to her campaign…. later this week.

    I can’t really imagine any half thinking American voting for anyone besides Tulsi ..Not right now, anyway.

    She is the only candidate whose platform is even remotely intelligent.

    Everyone else is all about perpetual criminal war, mass murder, larcenous war profiteering ,and heinous debt.

    I look at every representative in our entire government, as well as every (other) nominee …and all I see is one more tool of the criminal oligarchs who exterminated our solvency by lying us into “never-ending “catastrophic conflicts.

    Shameful.

    The American People need to find (and elect) a leader who is willing to lock these people up!

  253. @RobinG

    “Our battles?” You admit you all work as a group, rushing to do damage control for one another. Even Giraldi came to Renfro’s defense (in a previous thread).

    Your battle is to get a Democrat elected in 2020; to get rid of nationalist Trump. You all hate the West – the Great Satan – and want to get rid of it too by totally changing it. There, I defined you. Tribal loyalties at work.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @ChuckOrloski
    , @Saggy
  254. @alexander

    With a percentage of well meaning sensibility, alexander said: “The American People need to find (and elect) a leader who is willing to lock these people up!”

    👍, Mr. alexander.

    Nonetheless, the American “People” get stuck with leaders approved & selected by Jewish Lobbies. Otherwise, the voices & policies of unapproved and potential “Homeland” leaders are otherwise incarerated.

    Presumably, they are out there and are for the You Tube/Google-Time being, they are discoverable.

    Please let me know what you think of me, a Scranton “Homelander,” uh, follower? 😏Thank you!

    Selah, Simon & Garfunkel; a (dumb goyim) man hears what he wants to hear & regrettably “disregards the rest.”

  255. geokat62 says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    …to get rid of nationalist Trump.

    Bahahahahahahahaha!

    Trump a nationalist? A Zionist, yes. He’s more than demonstrated his bona fides. They’ve even put his face on a coin next to King Cyrus, for heavens sake.

    But, tell us, what has he done to fulfill his nationalist promises for America?

  256. @redmudhooch

    Bernie was cheated by a cackling hyena and then went on to support her. As far as I am concerned, he totally ruined his credibility.

    Tulsi might be better. If all MSM are against her, she certainly is. MSM are very informative: when they say something, you can be sure that the opposite is true, when they support someone, you can be sure that this someone is a piece of shit.

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty, FB
    • Replies: @Iris
  257. @Carolyn Yeager

    Haha. To RobinG, & as follows, Caroline Yeager passed on her general & prejudiced judgement: “Your battle is to get a Democrat elected in 2020; to get rid of nationalist Trump. You all hate the West – the Great Satan – and want to get rid of it too by totally changing it.”

    (Zigh)

    First of all, it’s the United Jewish Lobby & Corporate Media😒 apparatus’s function to anoint Israeli-acceptable “US” presidential candidates. Hahahaha. They all hate the thought of American voters having a “say” as to the real big things which are vital to Israel’s interests.

    (Zigh) Think deeper, C.Y.! Change might come, but it will be after more economic pain & punishment is inflicted upon average American citizens, and uh, over the dead bodies of ZUS “Boots on the Greater Israel Ground.”😈

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  258. @ChuckOrloski

    Thats Padma Lakshmi not Tulsi btw

  259. @Stan d Mute

    I can say that because thats not even her, thats an Indian actress by the name of Padma Lakshmi

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  260. homahr says:

    The problems with dumb women like Tulsi and Ilhan:

    Tulsi is more pro-israel than pro-Assad.
    Ilhan is more anti-Assad than anti-israel.

    Both need to realize that israel is the problem, and Assad is the solution.

  261. Iris says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Tulsi might be better. If all MSM are against her, she certainly is.

    I am very ignorant of American politics, but one thing is obvious even to an ignorant foreigner: Ron Paul is an exceptionally decent, principled and intelligent politician; there aren’t many like him anywhere in the West.

    If Ron Paul endorses Mrs Gabbard, she has to be a real, genuine chance for peace.

  262. Rurik says:
    @KenH

    Perhaps Trump was a God-send if only for the appointment of judges and Justices.

    I try to keep that in mind because that might be the only thing standing between heritage America and Judeo Bolshevik tyranny in the next few years.

    yep, I suspect it has bought us some time. And frustrated the fiend, who literally aches with existential malaise and anguish with every day that White Gentiles are thriving and happy in some hamlet somewhere. Imagine Bill Maher at an October Fest in Munich, watching all the beautiful blond Germans drinking and feasting and merrymaking to their exuberant heart’s content. This one in California..

    Poor Bill would seethe and rankle in a private hell, feeling the laughter and bonhomie as like a thousand red-hot pitch forks puncturing him with every smiling greeting and every child’s joy.

    It was a federal tyrannical judge who repudiated the democratic will of the people, who voted for Prop. 187, and delivered California over to the fiend, where its fate is now sealed. Were it not for that strategically placed treasonous fecal judge, California might have prospered in happiness for a few years or even decades more. And the same fate awaits the rest of the nation, as the fiend and his minions encroach and sow discord into every last bastion of harmony and happiness on this continent and beyond.

    One of my quiet and simple joys on this earth is watching the shitlibs heads explode at Trump’s various transgressions against their Orwellian power-lust. Just imagining Justice Ginsburg finally succumbing to the great inevitability, and seeing Trump appoint a Justice whose pedigree is deliciously intended to push Crazy Nancy and her fellow travelers over the edge, into paroxysms of seething fury, is almost worth so many of Trump’s Zio-treasons. (Almost).

    Trump’s failed “bigly” is in fighting the ADL and SPLC inspired (((tech censorship and tyranny)))

    This could turn out to be a blessing, as even the lemmingry can’t ignore the demented tyranny of the tech leftists, banning anyone who so much as quotes the bible. As formerly ‘fringe sites’ (like BitChute, for instance) become mainstream as conservatives and traditionalists seek out alternatives to these petty ‘Nazis of The Narrative’.

    allowing the corrupt and partisan FBI and DOJ

    My popcorn is getting a little stale, but I’m still hopeful that men like Trump and Bill Barr will eventually visit upon these cowards and treasonous scum a taste of actual justice.

    Seeing Brenan in an orange suit, will be as satisfying as seeing Ginsburg’s overdue replacement shaking Trump’s triumphant hand. Hope springs eternal..

    Trump hasn’t started any wars but that isn’t for lack of trying.

    IDK. I suspect the pressure on Trump to give the green light for Bolton’s false flag, is enormous.

    When it comes to ZUS presidents, and the MIC/Zio-scum demands for more and more wars, I wonder if that isn’t the pinnacle of moral resistance. Daddy Bush repudiated ((their)) demands to take out Saddam. And we got 9/11 and a compliant Dubya for daddy’s recalcitrance.

    That they would assassinate a president for refusing to submit to their will, is undeniable. One can only imagine what Trump’s private security is telling him. ‘On this one boss, you’d better comply. We don’t think we can protect you if you deny them on Iran’. -God only knows.

    I predict she wouldn’t be able to withstand the pressure to do so.

    It’s true there’s simply no way on earth that Tulsi has the gigantic balls that Trump seems to possess. Most people would have caved to the deepstate by now, vis-a-vis more wars and more overt hostility to Heritage America. The latter seems to even be a natural position for Tulsi.

    But if Trump starts a war with Iran, (false flag or no), then I don’t care about anything else. I will become an unapologetic bullhorn for any presidential candidate whose position is to end the (((Endless Wars))). Come what may.

    As for the social fabric of the nation, (and indeed, our civilization), then perhaps we need the shooting war to start, sooner rather than later. I hope not, but if they come for the guns, (and perhaps under Tulsi, they would), then that is the time to give it to them, but good. I’m not a pacifist, all my anti-war rhetoric notwithstanding. If thugs (uniformed or not) come to your house to harm or disarm you, then a man who would protect what’s his, and not live in chains, would be advised to hurl as much lead at high velocity in their general direction, as his or her capacity presents.

    “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if…”

    • Replies: @KenH
  263. @Beefcake the Mighty

    ” Yes I can support and respect honest and intelligent leftists”

    Holy shit, when are you naive appeasors going to finally realize 1: These is no such thing as an honest leftist. 2: These is no such thing as an intelligent leftist.

    If they were “intelligent” they would realize the horrible flaws in the leftist worldview.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US amry vet, and pro jazz musician.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  264. Rurik says:
    @redmudhooch

    COMMUNIST BOLSHEVIK FASCIST NIGGER FED!!!!!

    Do you know that the same people who corrupted legitimate capitalism in the West, are the same (((people))) who funded communism?

    They don’t give a fuck if you’re Russian or British or Vanuatuan, all they care about is Jewish supremaci$m. Just ask the Russians who suffered under generations of Jewish supremacist imposed commie genocide and slavery, only to wake up one day to “capitalism”!, and find that Russia was now owned by a handful (of mostly Jewish supremacist) “capitalists”! Weeeeee!

    Everything, EVERYTHING leads directly to the Jews!

    hyperbolic idiocy

    I can imagine you at a funeral in Palestine, burying a teenager who was murdered for his organs, and seeing the mourners all full of anger and resentment for the Jewish supremacists who’ve butchered their relatives, and stolen their lands, and now heap cruel humiliations upon them relentlessly, when they’re not shooting their children for target practice…

    and there’s Redmudhooch, berating them all for ‘BLAMING EVERYTHING ON THE JEWS!!!!’

    I wonder, Redmud, if a Palestinian were to lament what “the Jews” have done to his people, would you shout at him too?

    Or do you just lambaste Germans and Americans and Iraqis and Syrians and Russians and Lebanese and Brits and Libyans and so many others… who irrationally and anti-Semantically blame non-existent Jewish supremacists for contrived wars based on false flags (like USS Liberty and 9/11) for Eternal Wars for Israel and Hollywood sewage and so many other plagues, like Wall Street serial looting and so much else, that are all being perpetrated by Amish capitalists? Who blame Jews as a scape goat for their own inadequacies?

    Eh?

  265. Saggy says: • Website
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Ron was truly heroic, Rand is useless. Just another pro-Israeli tool.

    Well, thanks for the (only) response. But, does it have to be idiotic? Can you do better? RP is constantly in the news trying to restrain the US military …

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/06/20/rand_paul_to_senate_on_war_powers_weve_been_at_war_illegally_for_a_long_time_now.html

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/10/pompeo-rand-paul-iran-war-1266526

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/congress-finally-stands-up-to-a-president-and-says-you-cant-go-to-war-unless-we-say-so

    http://truthinmedia.com/rand-paul-aumf-president-unlimited-war-powers/

    Etc.

    What more can he do? He gets absolutely no support from the left or right beyond idiotic comments like yours. Again, if you can do better, please do.

  266. Saggy says: • Website
    @Carolyn Yeager

    to get rid of nationalist Trump.

    Trump is a nationalist, for sure, the problem is …. the nation …

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  267. @Authenticjazzman

    First of all, you misspelled army (unless there’s a different version only Mensa members use). Second, I’m guessing when you jumped out of planes, you landed head-first too many times.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    , @FB
  268. @Saggy

    OK, Rand is a lot better than most in Congress, no question. And I like his libertarianism. But on Israel he is largely silent and therefore part of the problem. In fact, he’s become essentially pro-Israel since going on one of those junkets a few years ago and being properly “educated” (or is it black-mailed?).

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
    , @Saggy
  269. @BengaliCanadianDude

    Yo B.C.D.!

    Well given the remote chance t-Rump gets to debate Tulsi Gabbard, his strategy-team must plan ahead for a catchy & insulting name to call her.🤔

    Hm. Might sail over most “Deplorables” heads, but I would recommend the cackling Donald to brand Tulsi, “Me3# Lakshmi.”

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  270. @alexander

    ” I can’t imagine any half thinking American voting for anybody besides Tulsi”

    So you are stating that anyone who does not vote according to your viewpoint is unable to “think” competently.

    This again sounds like German know-it-all-ism : Deutsche Besserwisserei, as according to the the know-it-all Germans, who are ever prepared to tell the whole world what is best for it.

    Look friend myself “Mensa” qualified and tested above 150 points, I will most gladly engage in a war of wits with you any day of the year, and you will lose.

    I would never vote a for a Democrat, any Democrat period, so put that in your Besserwisser Pfeife and smoke it.

    ” The American people need to find” : Just who the hell are you to be telling the American people what they need to do?

    AJM

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @alexander
  271. @Saggy

    Remember, DC is not fomenting war with Iran for its own sake, or harassing Russia for its own sake. They’re doing it because both of those nations are barriers to expansionist Israeli objectives in the ME. If all Rand can do is oppose war in the abstract (not necessarily a bad thing, mind you), then he is completely missing the big picture.

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @Rich
  272. @Saggy

    Enemies can always pick out images to fill up a 3-minute video. Are you really influenced by such childish efforts? If you really think Trump is loyal to Israel over the United States, please come out and say so … if you dare.

    • Replies: @Saggy
  273. @Beefcake the Mighty

    ” You landed head first too many times”

    HA HA HA HA HA : Damn that is great, but for your information you are somewhat right as on my very first jump I did not hit the ground according to training namely rolling off sideways , rather I fell forwards and hit my head on the ground and was out cold for a few minutes waking up to my buddies standing around me and laughing.

    And as far as my mispelling goes : I have simply taken the liberty of redesigning the ancient and outdated manner of spelling : Army.

    AJM

    • Replies: @alexander
  274. @Iris

    I am very ignorant of American politics

    That has been obvious all along. Which is why you should not be weighing in on who Americans should vote for – you have no say in the matter whatsoever and no one listens to you.

    Ron Paul may be decent, no argument, but Americans don’t want him as their president. And rightly so. I supported RP to the tune of $300 dollars all told back in 2008, and what did he do after collecting many, many millions? He dropped out, didn’t spend all the money on his campaign, used a large portion to fund a PAC “Campaign for Liberty”. That was not what it was given to him for. He has accomplished nothing except to allow himself a small niche from which he can continue pushing his ideas to a dwindling few. ‘Mrs. Gabbard’ will be the same.

    • Replies: @Iris
  275. peterAUS says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    https://thedukeofyork.org/about-the-duke/naval-career/

    …Throughout the conflict Prince Andrew, alongside his fellow aviators, flew missions including: Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW), Anti-Surface Warfare (ASUW), inter-ship Helicopter Delivery (HDS), Search and Rescue (SAR) and casualty evacuation….

    Prince’s helicopter was a member of a pair which flew through the same area where, just a couple of minutes ago, two other helicopters were attacked by Argentine planes.
    Part of that “ASUW” was picketing, hovering, in anti-ASM role, for ships on the outer zone. Playing a bait.
    SAR, in that conflict (SAS/SBS/Mountain and Arctic Warfare Cadre extraction).
    Etc.

    BTW, would this guy qualify as elite:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._Jones
    or this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Scott_(British_Army_officer)
    Etc.

  276. @Moi

    I’ve never understood why anti war activists would have any reason or desire to serve in the US military.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  277. Iris says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Which is why you should not be weighing in on who Americans should vote for

    Go tell that to the people on the receiving end of American sanctions and bombs; logics is not your strength.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  278. @Beefcake the Mighty

    The blackmail trap that all junkatees to Israel are exposed to, is carefully arranged and baited to appeal to individual tastes and preferences. I would speculate that any junkatee who fails to take the bait prepared specifically for him or her, are few and far between.

  279. FB says: • Website
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    First of all, you misspelled army (unless there’s a different version only Mensa members use). Second, I’m guessing when you jumped out of planes, you landed head-first too many times.

    LOL…he also left out the ‘f’ in jazz ‘fartist’…

  280. @Carroll Price

    Because they are confused, psychotic nut-cases such as the females who are pushing for women to be accepted into combat units, or simular to the anti-war leftist lunatics who collect funds to support their favored leftist “wars of liberation”.

    Just the vision of men with blown off legs is bad enough, but the thought of girls writhing in pain on the battlefield is more than I myself can endure.

    Look it’s high time that rational, down-to-earth folks finally realize that leftists do not simply represent “other” viewpoints, rather that they are insane and there is no common ground to ever be found when dealing with them.

    AJM

  281. Saggy says: • Website
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    But on Israel he is largely silent and therefore part of the problem.

    The primary manifestation of the problem with Israel, as opposed to the Jews in general, is the endless wars the US fights in the ME. And RP has been 100% consistently against these wars and 100% for a return to constitutional govt., which includes congressional control of the military. So, he is 100% effectively opposed to Israeli control of the US military, which is what we have now. That’s the main thing.

    Let’s see what he says about NATO – Dr. Rand Paul Votes Against Further Expanding NATO – https://www.paul.senate.gov/news/dr-rand-paul-votes-against-further-expanding-nato

    The Iran deal – Rand Paul says it’s a ‘mistake’ to exit nuclear deal – CNNPolitics https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/15/politics/trump-iran-nuclear-rand-paul/index.html

    Russia – Report: Sen. Rand Paul files amendment to remove Russia sanctions – https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/25/rand-paul-files-amendment-remove-russia-sanctions/1421837002/

    Rand Paul Suggests Talking to Russia About the Size of NATO – https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/rand-paul-suggests-talking-russia-size-nato

    GOP lawmakers criticize Trump’s decision to withdraw from nuclear … – https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-lawmakers-criticize-trumps-decision-to-withdraw-from-nuclear-arms-treaty/2018/10/21/20e4d726-d53d-11e8-83a2-d1c3da28d6b6_story.html

    Etc. What the hell more do you want? Direct overt criticism of Israel is political suicide.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  282. @ChuckOrloski

    I’ve been around with an intelligent brain longer than you, ChuckOrloski. If you think I would take any advice from you, or that I need any, you are mistaken. Not that your mistakes bother you or stop you from giving advice whenever you see an opportunity.

    So you’re calling for “more economic pain” on Americans rather than Trump’s economic prosperity? Replacing Trump with a Democrat (pick any one) will surely do that. As the country rapidly becomes less White through open immigration, 3rd world conditions will increase to the point of real pain. But if you think that would cause ‘citizens’ to wake up to the Jewish cause of all their suffering — and throw off the Lobby yoke — well, you’d have to actually explain how that would work. It doesn’t seem likely.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @ChuckOrloski
  283. Rurik says:
    @Saggy

    What more can he do?

    For one, he can stop telling lies.

    In questioning Secretary of State John Kerry at a hearing on the Iran deal before the Senate Foreign Relations committee, Sen. Paul cited what he said were the Ayatollah Khamenei’s words:

    “The Americans say they stopped Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. They know it’s not true.”

    Claiming that this contradicts the administration’s contention that the deal “would prevent [the Iranians] from getting a nuclear weapon,” Paul averred that “the Ayatollah is saying the opposite.”

    But what did Khamenei really say? Here’s the entire quote:

    “The Americans say they stopped Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. They know it’s not true. We had a fatwa, declaring nuclear weapons to be religiously forbidden. It had nothing to do with the nuclear talks.”

    This was no mistake on Rand Paul’s part. It was a lie, and he repeated the lie to Fox News in an interview with Lou Dobbs:

    “I made a point that the ayatollah is now saying that the deal does not prevent them from having a nuclear weapon and I thought that’s precisely what the deal is supposed to do, so I don’t know how we can have an agreement that President Obama says means one thing, John Kerry says means one thing, but the ayatollah says doesn’t mean that at all.”

    https://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/07/28/rand-paul-fraud-failure-liar/

    I still believe there’s hope for Rand, and I consider him one of the few for whom I feel that way.

    But when I read of his sickening lies about Iran’s nuclear intentions, I lost heart.

    His dad would have never lied like that. Especially a lie that encourages more ZUSA belligerence in the Middle East.

    So now my support for Rand is as tepid as his truth-telling vis-a-vis the Eternal Wars for Israel.

    But I’d still like to see a Rand/Tulsi ticket for 2020, if for no other reason than having an anti-Eternal-War protest vote.

    • Agree: Iris
  284. @Iris

    What a cop-out. Do the people in whatever nation you come from vote for their head of government based on what people in other nations want him/her to be?

  285. renfro says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Dear weird one ,

    You do wonders for my self esteem by illustrating the difference between whites like you and whites like me.

    I am not a snob about most things….but I am when it comes to a person’s character…..as in whether or not he/ she is fair mined, ethical, objective in his judgments, speaks up for right or wrong regardless of who or what is involved and tells the truth.

    Everything you have written here says you are not a person of good character …there is some thing very wrong with you that keeps you obsessing on your German ancestry and need to clear Germany of any responsibility and your visceral hatred and attacks on commenters here .

    I would say get some mental help but I think you are too far gone for help so rant on.

    • Agree: FB
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  286. Rurik says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    But if you think that would cause ‘citizens’ to wake up to the Jewish cause of all their suffering — and throw off the Lobby yoke — well, you’d have to actually explain how that would work.

    It was the depraved suffering imposed on the German people during Weimar, that led to a German awakening.

    I certainly don’t hope for Americans to suffer similarly, (at least any more than they already are in a kind of WeimarAmerica) but if they don’t wake up, and soon, then there eventually won’t be much left of them to wake up.

    Economic hardship can be borne and survived, to build from the ashes.

    But what the Jewish supremacists have in mind for White America, (slow, genocidal blending and replacement) there will be no recovery from.

    Orwell’s (((boot))), stamping on a human face, will be America’s fate, forever…

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  287. renfro says:
    @alexander

    I am becoming impressed also by Elizabeth Warren….suggest listening to her.
    She’s actually brilliant on banking and the economy and US ‘elites’ corruption.
    If she was a little less left on some other issues I’d be with her already.
    I want to see who comes out of the republicans to challenge Trump.

  288. Rich says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    I have to disagree with you. Iran is a problem for Saudi Arabia, the main US ally in the region, Israel is simply a beneficiary of this. That goes for Syria, too. Before the war began in Syria, the Saudis offered them a deal to let Saudi gas be piped through Syria, Assad refused. That’s when the war began. Russia is no threat to Israeli expansion, have they done anything for the Palestinians? Helping Syria regain Golan? Even protected Syrian airspace from Israeli attacks? Russia is seen, by some in DC, as a possible threat to US interests. Just as the Brits used to foment trouble with any continental power they thought might become a future threat, some in the American government feel a resurgent, wealthy Russia is a threat to American hegemony, and work to hold them back. I would rather that they worked with the Russians, forging an alliance against the rising Chicoms, but poor leadership has pushed the Russkies and Chicoms closer together, which could cause trouble.

    Another problem I’ve seen is with the Russians themselves. If Russian refugees like the two individuals who comment here, constantly running down the US, “Anon from Tenn” and “FB”, are any indication of the actual Russian people, maybe we shouldn’t try to be allies with them…

  289. @Rurik

    Removing the white race from the equation is the plan for taking final control over America, and it’s a no-brainer that it will work.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  290. renfro says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Look friend myself “Mensa” qualified and tested above 150 points, I will most gladly engage in a war of wits with you any day of the year, and you will lose.

    When Steven Hawking was asked what his IQ was during a 2004 interview with the New York Times……..He replied:

    ”I have no idea. People who boast about their IQ are losers.”

    I wish I had a way to prove it cause I think my beagle may have a IQ higher than our AJM.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  291. Saggy says: • Website
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Enemies can always pick out images to fill up a 3-minute video.

    His enemies didn’t make this video. The Israelis did. Deal with reality. They’re naming a city for Trump. They’ve made a memorial Trump coin.

    If you really think Trump is loyal to Israel over the United States, please come out and say so … if you dare.

    Trump’s loyalty to the common people of America is zero. His loyalty to the Israelis is 100%. First, Trump is an imbecile…. everyone knew this before he got into politics , my wife knows it, my kid knows it. But, you want real evidence, I’ve got it ….

    I don’t mean he is really a imbecile, but I mean that his intelligence is average at best. He is infantile, disinterested in anything but himself. He seems literally stupid.

    He is disinterested in foreign policy, and that is why he brought on the neocons who began the unending wars in the ME. He rhetoric is infantile and extremely dangerous … while US warships and missiles are heading to Iran https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/10/the-us-is-sending-another-warship-and-more-missiles-to-the-middle-east-amid-iran-tensions.html Trump tweets, for Christ’s sake …

    If Iran wants to fight, that will be the official end of Iran. Never threaten the United States again!

    This is grade school level and nearly insane. The world has never seen anything like it.

    Trump’s loyalty to the US is zero. Trump is loyal to money, and the Trump money was made in Jew controlled New York real estate. The Jews own Trump – see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aEWBcdUg6k, in the video substitute ‘Jews’ for ‘bankers’, and you have it.

    Trump is an unmitigated disaster and the world will be lucky to survive his presidency.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Escher
  292. alexander says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Just an American citizen who does not take kindly to being deceived into illegal war and defrauded out of TWENTY TWO TRILLION DOLLARS in the process.

    I really don’t like it…and I was a “true believer” too….I was jumping out of my chair in cries of victory when I saw Saddam’s statue come down on the news.

    I could not imagine it possible that anyone would actually LIE us into that war.

    I really couldn’t .

    It is the worst of crimes….the WORST.

    I trusted them..and they betrayed me…they betrayed “all of us.”

    Shameful.

    They should all be in prison for doing that…Moreover , all their assets should be seized to pay for the wars they deceived us into.

    “No taxation without representation”.

    If they lied us into war…then let them pay for it …the whole damn way !

  293. Rurik says:
    @Carroll Price

    Removing the white race from the equation is the plan for taking final control over America, and it’s a no-brainer that it will work.

    Not just America Carroll, but the whole of Western civilization, which is nothing more or less than the material world expression of White folk’s genes.

    But there is some grumbling. Europe just showed some timid vacillating over their planned genocide. The Brits would have no talk of a second Brexit referendum, (this time to vote with ‘their mind’s right’ ; )

    So perchance there’s some small shred of hope, especially if the free world (no longer the West) can break the ((chains)) of the Federal Reserve Bank and find an alternative to the Federal Reserve Note.

    Our salvation may very well depend on that.

  294. @renfro

    Ad Hominen, ad hominen, ad hominen. That’s all ‘Renfro’ has ever directed to me. That shows his poverty of mind and unsavory character. I am not the one who has lied about who I am.

  295. @Rich

    Prevailing Russian sentiment (myself included) was very much pro-American in 1991. In the following years the US squandered all this goodwill: robbed Russia blind in the 1990s, propped up Yeltsin regime, even when it engaged in blatantly unconstitutional actions in 1993, forcibly dismantled Yugoslavia, committing numerous war crimes and ruining international law in the process, created Kosovo in contradiction to the international law and installed mafia bosses as the “government” there, installed Russophobic puppets in power all over Eastern Europe and absorbed those vaudeville states into NATO (including even Montenegro, well known internationally to be run by the local mafia boss), destroyed Iraq and Libya under false pretexts, fomented the war in Syria, supporting the worst scum that country and its neighbors could produce, installed in power morons in many post-Soviet republics, including Ukie Nazis, pretended to believe clumsy false accusations of its British sidekicks in Scripal affair, etc.

    Now it’s too late to cry over spilled milk. As they say in Russia, the train has already left the station.

  296. @renfro

    He’s not so much qualified as certified.

  297. @Rich

    There are a lot of players and interests here, I agree. But Israel remains at the heart of it all. (Israeli and Saudi interests have been aligned for quite some time, it’s no longer even an open secret.)

    Russia has defended its legitimate interests in the ME and saved Syria from Zio-American terror. It is unfortunate that Syria will remain partitioned for some time, but the alternatives were far worse (namely, destabilization in pursuit of Greater Israel). Russia did its best given the constraints, that the Americans were/are looking for the slightest pretext for war. It is all very unfortunate, because America and Russia should be allies on the world stage.

  298. alexander says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    I responded to you on comment # 300.

  299. @Rurik

    Well, let’s see. You are telling me that Germans were the victims of “depraved suffering” (meaning undeserved) during Weimar, which was the democratic government installed in Germany following the WWI Versailles Treaty, and it was from that that their awakening came about. “Depraved suffering leads to awakening.”

    On the other hand, renfro accuses me of “obsessing on my German ancestry” (when have I done that?) and my “need to clear Germany of any responsibility.” This implies that renfro believes Germany did have substantial responsibility for what befell it. Which of these two ideas should I follow?
    And, by the way, renfro should tell us what his ancestry is so we can judge whether he is “obsessing” on it.

    You, Rurik, admire the Germans who bore such extreme economic hardship and yet still managed to “build from the ashes,” though you don’t mention that hundreds of thousands of German children and infants died of malnutrition at the hands of the British food blockade before their “building up” period began. I certainly hope you don’t wish this on any other people. Do you really think the Jews could treat the Germans worse than the British did? A serious question to which I’m sure I won’t get an answer, unless to tell me it was the British JEWS that were responsible.

    Again, Rurik, I don’t think it was the economic hardship alone that stirred up the German folks’ will to survive. It was Adolf Hitler’s ten years of political work and party organization, traveling and speaking throughout Germany in a way that electro-charged people with faith and hope, and something to believe in. Where is there his like today? One has to say the closest is Donald Trump, in spite of his attachment and sympathy to Israel and Jewish family members and friends. Make America Great Again! Like Hitler, he is widely condemned by the establishment and the media and their dupes, who are frightened to death of him.

    So when we see renfro and his contingent of friends/supporters attacking Trump from all angles, exactly as the establishment media and the Democrat Party do, we should wonder why. And why they say they plan to vote for the Democrat, which I have to say surprised me, though obviously it shouldn’t have. What does renfro have against Germany? Against “Nazis?” Of what does he consider Germany guilty? I have never heard him discuss any of this.

    • Replies: @KenH
    , @Colin Wright
    , @Rurik
  300. Deep State Giraldi does a good job sheperding his flock into his brand of oversimplification. The agent urged the vote for Trump the giant pro-military Democrat. Tulsi Gabbard is active duty with the rank of major and never said she was anti-war – her claim is anti-regime change. Otherwise murdering American citizens and blowing up wedding parties with drones is probably a-ok.

    Incidentally, she’s also an ‘active duty’ Congressperson collecting a civilian salary, all the while casting her votes on military budget, allotment and engagement issues that arise in Congress. Conflicts of interest apparently arent’t recognized by the voting zombies.

    After all 100% of the American voting morass supports perpetual war and spending 90% of their hard earned taxes on the military industiral complex. Americans almost universally have become soulless war mongers who believe they have the right to engage in wars and mass murders abroad because of their special goodness. Career soldiers sponge off the taxpayers. What has the US been doing these past 15 years Tulsi has been active duty military?

    • Replies: @alexander
    , @Art
  301. KenH says:
    @Rurik

    But if Trump starts a war with Iran, (false flag or no), then I don’t care about anything else.

    I believe a second term would almost guarantee a war since he no would no longer need the deplorables anymore. Trump will do anything, ANYTHING for Israel. He was going to bring the troops home from Syria but Bibi’s tweet storm in response effectively vetoed that, so in Syria they will stay as long as emperor Bibi wants them in the region. After all, Trump is merely the governor of Israel’s American province.

    But on the bright side black, hispanic and female unemployment will be at their lowest levels eva along with the largest number of immigrants eva! You better celebrate or (((they’ll))) call you white nationalist, dox you and kick you off twitter, facebook and instagram.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
    , @RobinG
    , @Rurik
  302. @Carolyn Yeager

    Caroline Yeager boasted: “I’ve been around with an intelligent brain longer than you, ChuckOrloski.”

    Hm. Re; Above, your having created a weird age-connection with an intelligent brain, and my followup weird question, Granny Solomon-Yeager?🤔

    Uh, does that count the time I was roaming around with a average (IQ) brain, and figured Jack Ruby Rubinstein was just another guy, among millions of “My Fellow” pissed-off Americans, & who talked about wanting to pop Oswald?

    Selah, Hail (!) to renfro’s intelligent sponsorship of the following comment to the blowhard AJM, “When Steven Hawking was asked what his IQ was during a 2004 interview with the New York Times……..selah, He replied: ”I have no idea. People who boast about their IQ are losers.”

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  303. @KenH

    Not only Trump will do anything for Israel but the whole congress aka the lower house of the knesset will do and have done everything and anything that Israel and the dual Israeli citizens want, hell they even let Israel and the zionist controlled deep state get away with the attack on 911, when every thinking America knows that Israel and the dual citizen traitors in the zio/US did it!

  304. FB says: • Website
    @Rich

    Hey moron…I’m not Russian…have nothing to do with Russia other than the fact that I have spent considerable time working with Russian colleagues in the aerospace industry…and have seen much of their country along the way…

    You are one of the most worthless dolts here…an indoctrinated dork who doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground…at least the nazi numbskulls can be entertaining at times…you on the other hand are a complete dullard…do you really think anybody cares to hear your parroting of Fox and CNN…?

    • Replies: @Rich
  305. alexander says:
    @orzabal chrome

    Your quote …

    “After all 100% of the American voting morass supports perpetual war and spending 90% of their hard earned taxes on the military industrial complex…”

    Speak for yourself…..because you are not speaking for me , or anyone I know.

    As a matter of fact , I have yet to meet a citizen in this country who enjoys being defrauded out of his money….. or lied into war.

    Just so you know, Americans haven’t been asked to pay for our wars….not one penny.

    Our government ,under Neocon tutelage, has overspent(on average) EIGHT HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS every year for the past 18 years fighting our stupid criminal wars .

    Probably half of which (if not more) is being pocketed by our larcenous “war profiteers”.

    All that spending is rolled into our national debt …it’s being STOLEN from future generations of taxpayers who had no say in the matter.

    Nobody has been taxed.

    Nobody has been asked to cough it up.

    If Dick Cheney asked every taxpayer to dole out 38 k in 2003 , to pay for his Iraq war debacle , their affront would have been so furious the war would have been over the same day.

    ALL the money to pay for these wars is being TAKEN from future generations.

    This is why our debt has grown by a whopping 16.4 TRILLION DOLLARS in just under 19 years.

    Every single taxpayer in this country is now on the hook for $180 K …because we were all lied into illegal war.

    You are saying Americans are “happy” about it ?

    You must be kidding…right ?

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Old Jew
  306. FB says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz

    Hey Blizz…here’s the problem…your inability to separate things…in fact your constant tendency to conflate perfectly unrelated concepts…

    Let’s talk about what has historically been known as the military ‘class’…this class held a separate position from the landed gentry and nobility, but were valued…and achievers were often given land and titles as reward…

    Today that class doesn’t really exist…sure there are still cadets who are the third or fourth generation…but this is increasingly rare…the landed gentry likewise doesn’t exist…today’s elite are defined by one thing…money…

    This class wants nothing to do with ordinary folks just because they are from the same country…it means nothing to them…even the moderately well off are incredibly crass toward their own kind…ever heard of a ‘whigger’…?

    That’s what some dork sitting in a McMansion [usually heavily mortgaged] thinks of ordinary white folk…I’ve heard plenty of this first hand…it makes them feel important to make a distinction between ‘smart’ ‘achievers’ [as if] like themselves…and the hoi polloi…

    These are the wannabes…the really wealthy folks look down on these losers with the same disdain…in this snack bracket you don’t exist unless you’ve got a Gulfstream and an apartment in Monte Carlo…

    These people will never send their kids to a career in the military…that’s just stupid…

    That’s the point that the original poster was making…but then you had to go off on wild tangents as is your custom…JFK’s father was a self made man who started by running saloons…his grandparents fled the famine in Ireland…even after he got rich he was never accepted into Boston Brahmin society…

    JFK did see action and more power to him…but in those days the elite were those snobs that snubbed his family…they never sent anyone to fight anywhere…

    You have conflated here different eras…and also the meaning of a military ‘class’ with the elite…good work as usual…but your fancy footwork is always entertaining…what with pictures hanging in boys’ schools and the like…

    • Replies: @Anon
  307. RobinG says:
    @KenH

    I believe a second term would almost guarantee a war since he would no longer need the deplorables anymore.

    Now that is a useful talking point, brilliantly framed.

  308. KenH says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Do you really think the Jews could treat the Germans worse than the British did?

    Ever heard of the Holodomor that starved to death seven million Ukrainians and the role Jewish commissars like Lazar Kaganovich and others played in it? Or Solomon Morel and the horrors and torture he visited upon thousands of German soldiers and civilians at the war’s end and documented by John Sack in his book An Eye for and Eye: The Untold Story of Jewish Revenge Against Germans in 1945?

    So the historical record has shown that Jews have proven to be every bit the cruel masters and more murderous than the British ever were. The Jewish led Bolshevik revolution turned out to be a giant anti-goy pogrom and mass murder spree.

  309. @ChuckOrloski

    ‘Yo B.C.D.!

    Well given the remote chance t-Rump gets to debate Tulsi Gabbard, his strategy-team must plan ahead for a catchy & insulting name to call her.🤔

    Hm. Might sail over most “Deplorables” heads, but I would recommend the cackling Donald to brand Tulsi, “Me3# Lakshmi.”

    If the debate happens, it’s a win. The outcome is pure gravy.

    …point is, the debate won’t happen.

    Lot’s big friends will make sure of that.

  310. @Carolyn Yeager

    ‘…It was Adolf Hitler’s ten years of political work and party organization, traveling and speaking throughout Germany in a way that electro-charged people with faith and hope, and something to believe in. Where is there his like today? One has to say the closest is Donald Trump..’

    In a certain sense that’s impressive. I do believe that you’ve managed to insult both parties with that comparison.

    • LOL: renfro, ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  311. @Saggy

    ‘…Trump is an unmitigated disaster and the world will be lucky to survive his presidency.’

    Well…yeah. But ya gotta consider what the alternative was.

  312. @Lot

    ‘Thanks.

    Giraldi and his fans here are cool with mass Third World migration to the USA if it means finally electing out and proud anti-Israel politicians like Ilhan Omar and the other Congressmuslima.’

    Our nation pursues a wide variety of stupid, selfish, futile, destructive, and self-destructive policies.

    We pursue one policy that is literally, incontrovertibly evil. That policy is support for Israel.

    If you want me to oppose any politician who promises to at least weaken our support for Israel, you have to show me that the alternative is at least as vigorously opposed to Israel as he (or in this case, she) is.

    It’s a matter of first things first. Repudiating evil is always first.

    • Replies: @J. Ipsten
  313. @KenH

    Do you really believe this BS about Bolsheviks and Holodomor? Or are you paid to pretend? Just asking out of curiosity.
    PS. I am not saying that Kaganovich was any good. He was scum, ass-kisser of Stalin. But that does not make him guilty of every crime one can imagine.

    • Replies: @KenH
  314. Anon[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @FB

    Oh dear! Not on the meds. You burst in on a conversation between two other commenters and your poor attention span doesn’t allow you to see that you are not effectually contradicting, as you suppose, the views expressed or implied by your target.

    Ah yes. And what is your actual knowledge of Boston Brahmins and others you say were past elites who didn’t go to war? Nothing it would seem given your total failure to deal with the concrete evidence to be found, as suggested, in old schools and old clubs. You are like a peasant who hates Jews but has never actually met one, except in your case you haven’t even caught up with uncontroversial hearsay about the institutions of the elites.

  315. @KenH

    Ever heard of the Holodomor ? …. Or Solomon Morel and the horrors and torture he visited upon thousands of German soldiers ….

    Of course I have, but I don’t think Morel had access to “thousands.”

    But have you ever heard of the undefended city of Dresden in February 1945, when 100,000 innocent German civilians were roasted and toasted to a crisp by the British RAF purposely creating firestorms with high explosive bombs and incendiary devices, in over three separate raids. There was unbelievable suffering endured by those people that night. Nothing the Jews have done is quite as fiendish as that, no matter how you want to color it.

    • Replies: @KenH
  316. @Colin Wright

    I do believe that you’ve managed to insult both parties with that comparison.

    And I do believe you’ve managed to say nothing while attempting to score with a put-down. And there’s little renfro giggling from behind the curtains. Ho hum.

  317. @ChuckOrloski

    Caroline Yeager boasted: “I’ve been around with an intelligent brain longer than you, ChuckOrloski.”

    I wasn’t boasting. I was simply saying I’m older than you and don’t appreciate being “instructed” by your narcissistic nonsense. You really make too much of yourself. You’re not fascinating, and your chattiness is not desired or appreciated by me. In order to shake you off, I will have to ignore you from now on — which I will do.

    Just letting you know.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  318. RobinG says:
    @alexander

    I think you’ll like this. Intimate, with lots about Pentagon waste, boondoggles, missing $$$.

    Discussion Hosted by Omeed Malik in NYC (full video)

    • Replies: @alexander
    , @Iris
  319. @Carolyn Yeager

    I’m sure noblesse oblige will reaassert itself and you will remind yourself to feel sorry for the afflicted, not least because the Commenter to Ignore button doesn’t stop him replying to you and getting into your Inbox if you have given a genuine email address. If I’m wrong on that, someone please tell me how to fix it.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  320. mish39 says:
    @alexander

    The 22 Trillion is what WE DON’T OWE Rothschild. This is the accumulated TOTAL of Overnight INTEREST (016 years since BIS Started the Fed Resv) we theoretically owe the Board Member FAMILIES of the Bank for International Settlement. This Pernicious MAFIA BANK OWNS ALL 187 Nations Central Banks PRIVATELY. They are This Planet’s ONLY PROBLEM. It could be RAZED in an Hour, Basel, Switzerland.

  321. mish39 says:
    @c matt

    OMG!!! the Gimmedats

    ARE THE ROTHSCHILD FAMILY!!!

    We “Owe” these JewFamilies 22 Trillion in Overnight interest charges since their “Federal Reserve

    Bank” began in 1913??? WTF are YOU Smoking dumbass WTFU! NOW

    The Fed Resv IS Privately Owned & These families charge us INTEREST for using THEIR PAPER

    sorry, USURY IS STILL TO THIS DAY ILLEGAL UNDER US LAW

    the gimmedats are the Oligarchy. Entirely Jewish Kahzars

  322. KenH says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Do you really believe this BS about Bolsheviks and Holodomor? Or are you paid to pretend?

    Do you really disbelieve the crimes of the Bolsheviks and the Holodomor? Or are you paid to pretend they didn’t happen?

    You sound like a Holodomor denier since it might upstage your holohoax racket.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @Rurik
  323. KenH says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    There was unbelievable suffering endured by those people that night. Nothing the Jews have done is quite as fiendish as that, no matter how you want to color it.

    Dresden was a war crime no doubt and very fiendish because it amounted to thrill killing. But what’s more fiendish, firebombing and murdering 100,000 mostly innocent civilians or enslaving and murdering millions in Soviet (((gulags)))?

    Then we have some Jewish owned media outlets engaged in Dresden death toll denial.
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26977893/ns/world_news-europe/t/report-dresden-bombing-deaths-overestimated/#.XP43ESv46Uk

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  324. @Brooklyn Dave

    Well my friend (Brooklyn Dave) they will do what the republicans did few years ago, to Ron Paul down in Tampa, Fl, with this idiot Mitt Romney, if I remember well.

    The only thing I expect and demand from Ms. Gabbard as a candidate for the presidency is to PROMISE AND DELIVER A NEW AND THOROUGH INVESTIGATION on the terrorism of 9/11/2001.
    American people want the truth as to what happen that day, and WHO was REALLY behind it.
    Skyscrapers to become dust is something that needs a REAL and SCIENTIFIC explanation.
    Because 19 eye-rabs, sounds like 6.000.000

    And then we will see the rats and the roaches to run for cover.

  325. There are plenty of reasons not to trust ran – plenty. But there’s not much evidence that they are a threat to the US and no evidence that they violated the agreement. If our regional partners are incapable providing security on their own accord despite our military, and economic aide packages, then perhaps we need to reconsider their value as partners.

    I am not convinced that the public or even this president is on board with attacking Iran, and I think its clear he is heck bent on dismantling anything accomplished by the previous president.
    my standard Israel has a right to exist and self defence, but if they are incapable or unwilling to deal their neighbors along with others in the region concerned about Iran, such as Egypt and Saudi Arabia then it certainly questions their value as partners.

    And while I certainly support needless war making, “needless” being the optimum term, it’s not on my top priorities, close to it as the consequences of needless conflicts continue to cost more that the obvious gains, but I won’t be supporting any candidate who endorses an overall damaging agenda, despite seeming agreement on avoiding a needless war with Iran.

    It is unfortunate to see the duplicitous behavior of the media once again advocating instead of reporting.

  326. @Wizard of Oz

    To Caroline Yeager, the Zio-washed oZ said:
    “I’m sure noblesse oblige will reaassert itself and you will remind yourself to feel sorry for the afflicted, not least because the Commenter to Ignore button doesn’t stop him replying to you…, ” blah, blah, blah.

    (zzZigh)

    Haha. The afflicted, particularly resident elders in my Scranton “Homeland,” tend to relish the old & satiric saying, “Even a blind squirrel happens to find a nut sometimes.”

    Frankly, f& or me, oZ, such is the case with your comments.🙄

    Suppose it’s positive for a number of regular U.R.-commenters to have a “Commenter to Ignore” option, but I shy away from indulging that, because no doubt, even you and Caroline deliver a potentially nourishing “nut” from time-to-time. 👍! (Zigh)

    Haha. Pig 🐖headed narcissists are more inclined to avoid U.R. comments which serve as a real challenge to their ideological blindness. So look in your bubble-bath mirror, Narciss-oZ? Haha!

  327. Uh, why is The Media not out to either report or “kill” ZUS Ambassador to Israel, Friedman’s, incendiary desire 😈 to annex portions of the West Bank?

    (Zigh) Fairly evident is “The Media’s” attempt to smother & subsequently kill Tulsi Gabbard’s 2020 campaign, of which might be controllable opposition. 🤔

    Please consider the al-Jazeera article, linked below? Thank you.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2019/06/envoy-israel-annex-west-bank-land-190608131911933.html

  328. @KenH

    Sorry to disappoint, I have no skin in the holohoax game. Even if that is a hoax, it does not make other hoaxes, including Holodomor, any truer. A lie is a lie, regardless of all the other lies.

  329. Rurik says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Well, let’s see. You are telling me that Germans were the victims of “depraved suffering” (meaning undeserved) during Weimar, which was the democratic government installed in Germany following the WWI Versailles Treaty, and it was from that that their awakening came about. “Depraved suffering leads to awakening.”

    Not just undeserved, but depraved in the sense that their children were starved into sexual exploitation by monsters in human form. All while the ((government)) treated the Germans under their cruel reign as objects of derision and humiliation. Not ironically, exactly like the Palestinians are treated today.

    On the other hand, renfro accuses me of…

    When possible I try to stay clear of flame wars based on personalities. I find them to be distractions from the meat of a discussion. That’s why I simply use the handy ‘Troll’ button.

    Germany did have substantial responsibility for what befell it. Which of these two ideas should I follow?

    Germany’s leadership considered Germany to be the ‘exceptional’ people of their day. And spoke of Slavs and others with patronizing hubris. Much like the USA! chanting Bovinus Americanus, declaring their exceptionalism (ironically true, but not how they imagine it ; ). However, I’d say all things considered, the Germans, because of the existential threats they faced, and the treachery they’d been shown by Perfidious and others.. mean they were heads and tails far more noble and honorable in their behavior than Americans are today. So if any people are responsible for what befalls them, certainly the USA! chanting Americans (willfully ignorant as they are), and most especially the neocon, Jewish supremacist scum (and their Christian Zionist fellow travelers), are a thousand times more deserving of what was unfairly dished out to the Nazi leadership after the war. (not to mention the mostly innocent German people).

    If Goring deserved to hang, then Stalin and Churchill deserved to hang ten thousand times over.

    Do you really think the Jews could treat the Germans worse than the British did? A serious question to which I’m sure I won’t get an answer, unless to tell me it was the British JEWS that were responsible.

    Americans also participated in the bombing of Dresden. So if the British people are guilty for the crimes of their governments, then Americans are just as guilty.

    For the question of complicity in atrocities and aggressive wars and crimes writ large all over the planet, we needn’t go all the way back to WWII. We see aggressive wars and atrocities and crimes in copious abundance today. Right now.

    Are the Brits personally responsible for the lies Tony Blair and his regime told them on the march to war with Iraq?

    Are the American people, responsible for the lies that Dubya and a lying (((media))), bludgeoned the public with 24/7?

    According to some polls, at least a third of the British people would like to see Tony Blair indicted for war crimes. Here’s a nice unofficial poll out of Scotland:

    http://thirdforcenews.org.uk/polls/poll-should-tony-blair-be-indicted-for-war-crimes/#poll-237

    Americans vote for the anti-war candidate every time. Are they to blame when they’re betrayed, and contrived wars for Israel are always foisted upon them?

    I don’t really see a nickel’s bit of difference between a Brit and a typical American, Canadian (same thing), German, Russian or Belgian, etc…

    We’re all basically the same people, with a similar history. Prof of this is America itself, where all these nationalities have blended into a harmonious mix that we call White America, today.

    However, some ethnicities and religions are not so harmonious, are they?

    One in particular, has set itself apart, and demands special treatment. They are the true ‘exceptional’ people, and are above criticism. That’s the law, now, in formerly ‘first amendment’ ZUSA. We fight endless wars on their behalf. We suffer untold horrors committed by their special pets from coast to coast. We’re inundated with cultural and spiritual sewage, pumped out of their moral septic tanks 24/7, and into the vulnerable souls of our young people, turning otherwise healthy children into ‘transgenders’, and Antifa SJW.

    If would require a herculean effort of deliberate cognitive dissonance not to see this glaring and brutal fact, right in front of our collective faces. And yet, that deliberate disingenuousness seems rampant, doesn’t it.

    Don’t you find that the least bit curious?

    Where is there his like today? One has to say the closest is Donald Trump, in spite of his attachment and sympathy to Israel and Jewish family members and friends. Make America Great Again! Like Hitler, he is widely condemned by the establishment and the media and their dupes, who are frightened to death of him.

    True

    Bill Maher even says as much out loud.

    So when we see renfro and his contingent of friends/supporters attacking Trump from all angles, exactly as the establishment media and the Democrat Party do, we should wonder why.

    No we shouldn’t.

    Because Trump has morphed into a huge disappointment vis-a-vis Zionism and drones and lip service to the fiend.

    Trump must be made to understand that his base are- (if nothing else) anti-Eternal Wars for Israel, and that if he breaks that sacred covenant with us Deplorables, and starts a war with Iran, (or Venezuela or Syria, etc..), that we will call down upon him from the Heavens such a fury for his rotten head on a pike, that would make the howls for 18th century French aristocrats seem like a Sunday school picnic.

    And why they say they plan to vote for the Democrat,

    If Trump authorized a war with Iran, then I won’t just vote for a Democrat, I’ll campaign and hurl my best efforts, heart and soul, into seeing him repudiated and scorned and hopefully, tossed into a cage, just as Crazy Pelosi calls for.

    But, (and that’s a huge but), he hasn’t done so yet. And so I still harbor some shred of hope that he’s still listening to the people. And hasn’t gone full-blown Bush/Clinton/Obama.. yet.

    As long as he can keep leading scumfucks like Bolton and the crew on.. and sabre rattling without actually starting a new war, (something ((they’re)) obviously putting massive pressure on him to do), then I’ll continue to have some hope for Donald J. Trump.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  330. @KenH

    You are confusing what I originally said. It was: “Do you really think the Jews could treat the Germans worse than the British did?”

    Bringing up the Ukrainians does not apply. The Russians have their relationship with the Ukrainians; the British have theirs with the Germans. The British also enacted the so-called Starvation Blockade against Germany in the First World War.

    “In December 1918, the National Health Office in Berlin calculated that 763,000 persons had died as a result of the blockade by that time; the number added to this in the first months of 1919 is unknown.7 In some respects, the armistice saw the intensification of the suffering, since the German Baltic coast was now effectively blockaded and German fishing rights in the Baltic annulled.
    https://mises.org/library/blockade-and-attempted-starvation-germany

    From your name, you are likely of British ancestry. As I’ve pointed out before and elsewhere, such British on comment boards like this like to point to the Jews in order to take the attention away from their own crimes. While the Jews are bad, for the Germans the British are worse. Today, they are a horrible enemy who pretends to be a friend.

    • Replies: @KenH
  331. Rurik says:
    @KenH

    since it might upstage your holohoax racket.

    hey Ken,

    From what I’ve glimmered, AnonTN isn’t a Jewish supremacist.

    Rather, he’s a myopic ultra-nationalist Russian. Like many here. They simply can’t abide any narrative that puts Russia or Russians into a questionable light. Expecially vis-à-vis WWII. Tender are their sensibilities in that sense, perhaps due to the fact that they watched (often with unbridled giddiness) the relentless demonization of the German people for generation after cruel generation. Poles are often the same.

    It’s rather a shame tho, because if they had minimal powers of reflection, and could honestly look at the horrors of that evil war objectively, they’d no doubt come to the same conclusion I have, vis-a-vis America’s involvement in those evil world wars, and more to the point, our collective guilt with today’s evil wars. (all of which are primarily to benefit Jewish supremacist$).

    Millions of Russians perished in the wars and gulags and were handed over to Stalin’s tender mercies at Yalta. Operation Keelhaul being yet another stain on Churchill, FDR and Stalin’s moral enormities against human reason or decency.

    But they can’t allow themselves to look at those issues (Holodomor, Katyn, Red Army rapists) honestly, because doing so might legitimately impugn their cherish cartoon narrative of Russians = as the holy good guys, and those evil Germans = are the eternal evil bad guys.

    They don’t do nuance, IOW, because they like the seeing Germans get their face shoved into the manure pile. I suppose it goes back centuries, with lots and lots of issues of envy. That most unfortunate fount of human hatred unleashed.

    Also, any honest assessment of Russian treatment of the Soviet satellite states following the war, would mean there’s quite a lot to answer for in that regard.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @KenH
  332. Correction:

    And while I certainly don’t supportsupport needless war making, “needless” being the optimum term, it’s not on my top priorities, close to it as the consequences of needless conflicts continue to cost more that the obvious gains, but I won’t be supporting any candidate who endorses an overall damaging agenda, despite seeming agreement on avoiding a needless war with Iran.

    ———–

    As a conservative there’s little common ground.

    No point discussing the children in the womb.

    But I would be curious how she intends grapple with taking via border violations

  333. Rurik says:
    @KenH

    I believe a second term would almost guarantee a war since he no would no longer need the deplorables anymore. Trump will do anything, ANYTHING for Israel. He was going to bring the troops home from Syria but Bibi’s tweet storm in response effectively vetoed that, so in Syria they will stay as long as emperor Bibi wants them in the region.

    it’s the chicken and the egg question

    does he slavishly serve Zionism because he wants to get (re)elected?

    or does he want to get (re)elected in order to slavishly serve Zionism?

    For myself, being a Gentile, I honestly can’t fathom why any Gentile would want to foment wars and suffering for the fun of it. With the exception of psychopaths and greedy MIC scumfucks (often the same), Gentiles are generally a kind sort of folks. We don’t want to slaughter and maim and genocide others for the sheer fun of doing so. Most of us abhor such things, and would rather help people in distress than put them there. There are exceptions of course. I suspect John McBloodstain reveled in blood-lust/power/suffering, but he was the exception.

    I could be wrong of course, but I wonder if Trump isn’t serving the Beast in order to get reelected, rather than the reverse. He owes, (literally) the Jewish supremacists who’ve saved his arse from destitution, at least from what I’ve seen. While he’s certainly willing to commit war crimes, I don’t think he revels in wars and slaughter and genocide, (as ((they)) obviously do), but then I could be wrong.

    I think he wants a great legacy, and he’s walking a razor’s edge in order to avoid more wars and avoid betraying America, while simultaneously trying to mollify the Jewish supremacists demanding more and more wars.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  334. @Rurik

    You said under the Weimar regime …

    All while the ((government)) treated the Germans under their cruel reign as objects of derision and humiliation.

    That government was the result of the vindictive rules decided by (first) France, (second) Britain, with lesser input by the USA and nothing by the Jews except behind the scenes. It was not a particularly Jewish government but comprised of the communist-infested Social Democrat Party.

    Germany’s leadership considered Germany to be the ‘exceptional’ people of their day. And spoke of Slavs and others with patronizing hubris. Much like the USA!

    Simply not true. It’s your opinion and you’re a victim of propaganda. The people who considered themselves exceptional in that time were the British – without a doubt. As I have written, the Germans were an oppressed people after WWI; Hitler was trying to rebuild German morale and undo the territorial losses of the Versailles Treaty. There was no patronizing of the Slavs, but a dislike of the Polish Jews pouring into the country with money given to them for the purpose of buying up German property on the cheap. These Slavs, plus the German Jews who dominated in key professional sectors and catered to them, were highly resented.

    Americans also participated in the bombing of Dresden. So if the British people are guilty for the crimes of their governments, then Americans are just as guilty.

    No, they’re not. It was the RAF that did all the most destructive firestorm bombing on the first night, in three waves. The Americans came the next day and did more conventional bombing. The Americans NEVER did the type of deranged civilian bombing carried out by the British; they preferred to target conventional war industry targets and daytime bombing. (Yes, I know about the strafing of civilians that took place.)

    I don’t really see a nickel’s bit of difference between a Brit and a typical American, Canadian (same thing), German, Russian or Belgian, etc…

    We’re all basically the same people, with a similar history. Prof of this is America itself, where all these nationalities have blended into a harmonious mix that we call White America, today.

    That’s your opinion, not fact. I don’t share it. Our national histories are very different unless you go way, way back before there was a “national idea.”

    According to some polls, at least a third of the British people would like to see Tony Blair indicted for war crimes. Here’s a nice unofficial poll out of Scotland:
    http://thirdforcenews.org.uk/polls/poll-should-tony-blair-be-indicted-for-war-crimes/#poll-237

    Why only one third? In my experience, the British people cannot admit their responsibility for evil; they have never apologized for any of their WWII war crimes, and only barely for those of WWI. The German Federal Republic conveniently accepts all blame onto themselves while the British Establishment continues their drumbeat of Holocaust, Holocaust daily.

    Because Trump has morphed into a huge disappointment vis-a-vis Zionism and drones and lip service to the fiend.

    Haha, I just established with KenH that Britain was the “fiend.” Well, Trump has only “morphed into a huge disappointment” if you had unrealistic expectations and if you are a one-issue and on-the-fence supporter. As an American (with distinct German sympathies), I care about a lot of political realities beyond Israeli-Jewish influence, although that is highly important. But it’s a bit late in the game to be expecting one American President to turn everything around from the mess that’s been allowed to grow up til now. There is NO scenario imaginable that would cause me to vote for a Democrat today, since I know the intention of every one of them is the destruction of the America I grew up in AND the destruction of the authentic German nation that I cherish.

    If Trump authorized a war with Iran,

    He is not going to do that. Both sides have said so, but you keep stirring up this Trump hate based on what other presidents have done and what might happen. Who are the people who are doing this? I believe they are not up to any good from a White patriot’s point of view.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Paul C.
    , @Rurik
  335. @Rurik

    Your post shows that congrats to the imperial propagandists are in order. I have no intention of arguing with every untrue statement you made, so I answer just a few.

    First, if you look at the big picture, it was always the British strategy (and now it’s the stragtegy of the US Empire) to prevent any kind of Russian-German alliance. This was true at the times of the Russian Empire, USSR, and is still true at the time of Russian Federation today. Hence, this does not depend on the behavior or nature of the Russian state.

    Second, there was (and maybe still is; I did not live there for the last 28 years) a lot better attitude to Germans in Russia than the other way around. Personally, I have no quarrel with Germans. I collaborate with several labs in Germany, I have a German post-doc in my lab, I had many exchange German graduate and undergraduate students in the lab, and have some right now. In my book, virtually no living German is responsible for what the Nazi Germany did in WWII. However, I advise Germans to remember that German troops were in the Baltics and in Ukraine during WWII, and we all know how that ended. People who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it.

    Third, I never claimed that Russians are not guilty of anything. Russian states (all of them) pursued their interests and committed crimes in the process. All I am saying is that those crimes are certainly no worse than the crimes committed by the British and the US Empires. In the last 25 years in the crimes department the US beats everyone hands down.

    Finally, I am half Ukrainian. As such, I believe that for what the Ukie Nazis did to their country in the last few years they deserve to be hanged on lampposts. But the hanging must be done by Ukrainians themselves. The main weakness of Ukrainians is that they expect someone else to solve their problems. Some expect Russia to do that, some want the US and EU. Both are dead wrong. External forces will use their unfortunate country as a tool, but nobody will care about them, they have to solve their problems themselves.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Rurik
  336. Rurik says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    If Trump authorized a war with Iran,

    He is not going to do that.

    we’ll see…

    (I hope you’re right!)

    Lacking time for a proper response, I try to answer specifics later..

  337. @Rurik

    Sensibly and addressed to KenH, Rurik wrote: “I think he (Trump) wants a great legacy, and he’s walking a razor’s edge in order to avoid more wars and avoid betraying America, while simultaneously trying to mollify the Jewish supremacists demanding more and more wars.”

    Hey Rurik!

    Above, and speaking respectfully, such is a Shabbos goy stroll on a razor edge as best described by the great Joseph Conrad.

    In a way, I see t-Rump as a self-made “victim” to attacks by the ZUS Democrat Party who want to reclaim what is, was, & will be an Israel-dominated White House.

    For your consideration, & linked below, is a meaningful article on Colodny’s very informative & thus obscured book, “Silent Coup.” As t-Rump enemies, from the Zio-Democrat Party (Wolfpack) Left howl for his impeachment, the octogenerian & respected 🙄 Saint John Dean 😈 is offered a comeback to help nail t-Rump to a cross on Haditha Golgotha. Haha, (zzZigh).

    My perpetual respect, Bro Rurik!

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?20346-1/silent-coup-removal-president&start=2892

    • Replies: @Rurik
  338. Rurik says:
    @AnonFromTN

    First, if you look at the big picture, it was always the British strategy (and now it’s the stragtegy of the US Empire) to prevent any kind of Russian-German alliance. This was true at the times of the Russian Empire, USSR, and is still true at the time of Russian Federation today.

    that’s interesting and, with the exception of East Germany under Soviet domination (albeit not an ‘alliance’), rings true, especially today.

    I appreciate your thoughtful reply, and will try to respond in kind later..

  339. Rich says:
    @FB

    Always with the cursing, you should have your mouth washed out with soap, and the childish cartoons, crazy. But it takes all kinds and Mr Unz is doing everyone a favor, keeping you busy in front of the computer at the local public library, instead of having you wandering through the streets, muttering and cursing while you push a shopping cart full of nickel deposit cans and bottles.

  340. alexander says:
    @RobinG

    Wow!

    Tulsi is hitting it out of the ballpark…on every single issue which should matter most to all of us .

    Godspeed to her…and her campaign.

    I hope she takes the nomination.

    Go Tulsi…Go !

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  341. @alexander

    Enthusiastic, Alexander gushed: “Tulsi is hitting it out of the ballpark…on every single issue which should matter most to all of us… I hope she takes the nomination.”

    Uh…, Go alexander, go! Hm?🤔 There’s a problem, Honolulu.

    So, my son, please rethink, ‘cuz doing so is healthy & a potential antidote to harmful & engineered political imaginings. “Hope” is one thing and, (Zigh), False Hope is a distinct other.

    Eh-hem — Tulsi now best start “hitting out of the ballpark” but inside the D.C./Tel Aviv Coliseum perimeter, and where her “hits” can be fielded, & co-opted according to each prevailing & specially required Zionist Jew “issue.”🤑

    Fyi, no one simply “takes” Democrat & Republican POT(Z)US nominations. Here is the big picture, young Alexander:
    Unless POT(Z)US candidates can prove intimacy with Israel, and never become an obstacle as to what the Federal Reserve system robbers & Likud Party really wants,
    bona fide Tulsii Gabbard-variants won’t fly.😒

    What ought matter to most ‘Homelanders” is the fact that “We” vote in a unnatural landscape, dominated by “our” scary Zionist Corporate Media TV screens. Such habitat naturally becomes an unenviable position — a.k.a., “bend over, ye dumb goyim!” — for some of “us” to be planted, er, and be fucking played. 😒

    Thanks for the look, alexander!

    Selah, “Be all that you can be,” Rep. Tulsi G., and, (argh), maintain a semblance of support for the IDF and (ugh) wars for Israel?

  342. Old Jew says:
    @alexander

    …. just checking your numbers..

    There were about 152 million tax returns filed by the end of 2017. says IRS
    The national debt was listed at about 21 trillions by 2018. says Google,

    Dividing one gets about 140 thousand dollars per Tax return.

    So your figures are in the ballpark.

    • Replies: @alexander
  343. KenH says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    You are confusing what I originally said. “Do you really think the Jews could treat the Germans worse than the British did?”

    Bringing up the Ukrainians does not apply

    I understood perfectly and my answer is a resounding yes based on how Jews treated the Ukrainians and Russians once they gained power over them and how they attempted to genocide the German nation via the Morgenthau plan after the war. Are you going to claim that Henry Morgenthau was British or acting as a British agent? What makes you think the Jews would have been more merciful towards the Germans than the Ukrainians or Russians?

    Jew Theodore Kaufman wrote a book in 1941 titled Germany Must Perish wherein he laid out the elements to completely eradicate the German nation and people through forced sterilization and territorial dismemberment and which obviously formed the basis for the Morgenthau plan following the war.

    You’re acting as if the post WWI and WWII British atrocities against the Germans are uniquely “fiendish” and could never be exceeded by any other nation and people. But if the Morgenthau plan was implemented it would have murdered tens of millions of Germans and not just the 850K or so that the British inflicted with the post WWI blockade and the firebombing of Dresden.

  344. Iris says:
    @RobinG

    What a spirited and impressive personality, in stark contrast with the usual vapid Western politicians… Thanks ever so much, Robin, for posting this remarkable interview.

    • Replies: @alexander
  345. J. Ipsten says:
    @Colin Wright

    Our nation pursues a wide variety of stupid, selfish, futile, destructive, and self-destructive policies.

    We pursue one policy that is literally, incontrovertibly evil. That policy is support for Israel.

    What bullshit! You try to control world through might and wars, and then innocently blame it on Israel.

    You consider that every President, Senator, Representative, Governor whom you select through the democratic process are all sell out.

    You need to check yourself in the nearest cuckoo’s nest.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  346. @J. Ipsten

    ‘…You consider that every President, Senator, Representative, Governor whom you select through the democratic process are all sell out.

    You need to check yourself in the nearest cuckoo’s nest.’

    It is worth pointing out that the biggest contributors to both candidates in the last general election were both fervent and admitted Zionists.

    Trump’s main man was Sheldon Adelson, while Clinton’s was Haim Saban: ‘I’m a one-issue guy, and that issue is Israel.’

    I think we can see who boss man is.

  347. alexander says:
    @Old Jew

    Check again.

    Because my numbers are not “in the ball park”…they are (unfortunately) right on the mark.

    Current National Debt is ……$ 22,365,798,750,971

    Current debt per taxpayer is…… $182, 124

    Source : National Debt Clock….(it’s a “running tab” ….so its even “higher” as of writing this comment)

    Over sixteen trillion ,four hundred billion dollars in “overspending” since the year 2000.

    “Mind numbing”

  348. J. Ipsten says:

    It is worth pointing out that the biggest contributors to both candidates in the last general election were both fervent and admitted Zionists.

    Trump’s main man was Sheldon Adelson, while Clinton’s was Haim Saban: ‘I’m a one-issue guy, and that issue is Israel.’

    Do you in all honesty believe that USA is not full of billionaire and millionaire Christians who have donated to both Trump and Clinton. Or the Saudi, Qatari, Emarati and Bahraini prince and princes donations to Trump and Clinton.

    You know that antisemitism will never cease to exist!

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  349. KenH says:
    @Rurik

    Rather, he’s a myopic ultra-nationalist Russian. Like many here

    Then that explains it. Maybe he’s the Russian Alex Jones where any event where Russia or Russians committed major atrocities didn’t really happen or if they did it was an illuminati plot. We can call him Alexei Jonesevitch.

    A couple of years ago there was a Russian troll out here screeching that the holodomor didn’t happen but when I asked for documentation he couldn’t/wouldn’t provide any. Not sure if “AnoninTN” is that guy or not.

    Whatever one thinks of holocaust debunking it’s at least backed by a wealth of evidence produced by recognized scholars, historians and researchers most of whom paid dearly for contradicting the Jewish version of events. Holodomor debunking is not and I’m still waiting on more than just a few Russians denying it (and Katyn and the mass rape of German women) to protect their ethnic pride and maintain the highly partisan narrative of the “Great Patriotic War” against the murderous Krauts.

    But I will say that I don’t believe the Holodomor is a reflection of the Russian national character as Jewish communism brought out the worst in them. So much of what happened during the communist era is an aberration.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @EugeneGur
  350. alexander says:
    @Iris

    It was , hands down, one of the best interviews,…

    with some of the most insightful questions I have heard in a long time .

    Great one, RobinG.

    Go Tulsi !

    GO !

  351. geokat62 says:

    Russia-gate was a hoax, but Zion-gate is as real as it gets.

    Excerpt from Pompeo pledges not to wait for Britain’s elections to ‘push back’ against Corbyn and anti-Semitism:

    During his meeting with Jewish leaders in New York, Pompeo was asked if Corbyn “is elected, would you be willing to work with us to take on actions if life becomes very difficult for Jews in the U.K.?”
    In response, Pompeo said, “It could be that Mr. Corbyn manages to run the gantlet and get elected. It’s possible. You should know, we won’t wait for him to do those things to begin to push back. We will do our level best,” he said to fervent applause from attendees.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pompeo-pledges-not-to-wait-for-britains-elections-to-push-back-against-corbyn-and-anti-semitism/2019/06/07/dfeaa180-9c27-4495-9322-3d16b7d1541a_story.html?utm_term=.543e24adfc41

    Reaction from those that are woke:

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  352. @J. Ipsten

    Well, you know what they say: Antisemitism is a disease; you catch it from Jews.

  353. @KenH

    ‘…and not just the 850K or so that the British inflicted with the post WWI blockade and the firebombing of Dresden.’

    There’s also what amounted to the post-World War Two blockade. See Victor Gollancz’s In Darkest Germany, written in 1947 or so.

  354. Art says:
    @orzabal chrome

    Tulsi Gabbard is active duty with the rank of major and never said she was anti-war – her claim is anti-regime change. Otherwise murdering American citizens and blowing up wedding parties with drones is probably a-ok.

    That is a grossly unfair statement. I do not think that is true in anyway.

    Tulsi Gabbard is the bravest US public figure in America.

    She is taking on the CIA, the US Jews, the US media, and the MIC.

    Sixty years ago, JFK paid with his life for doing the same.

    God bless Tulsi Gabbard!

    Think Peace — Art

  355. @geokat62

    ‘During his meeting with Jewish leaders in New York, Pompeo was asked if Corbyn “is elected, would you be willing to work with us to take on actions if life becomes very difficult for Jews in the U.K.?”’

    This is worse still. It suggests the Jewish leadership is suffering from serious delusions of persecution.

    Given their power, that suggests seriously rough seas ahead.

    • Agree: geokat62, ChuckOrloski
  356. ‘…In response, Pompeo said, “It could be that Mr. Corbyn manages to run the gantlet and get elected. It’s possible. You should know, we won’t wait for him to do those things to begin to push back. We will do our level best,” he said to fervent applause from attendees.

    “It’s too risky and too important and too hard once it’s already happened,” he said…’

    Rather comically, this sounds remarkably like Pompeo has promised to interfere in Britain’s elections — of course, only if there’s a chance of an undesirable outcome.

  357. Now it’ll be interesting to see if Guardian et al give this play — or keep quiet and pretend nothing was said.

  358. I’m surprised that as far to the left as Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders claim to be, neither one of these candidates seems to be going after the military-industrial complex — let alone the rest of the Democratic field, all of whom are left-of-center to various degrees.

    Contrast this to 1972, when George McGovern vowed to cut the defense budget in half — and it wasn’t even nearly as big then as it is now!

  359. @KenH

    Are you unable to accept defeat?

    That’s very British of you.

    It doesn’t matter how you “understood” my question. It was what it was, composed of certain words with certain clear meanings. And I absolutely stand by it.

    Now you want to bring in the Morgenthau Plan. A Plan … that didn’t happen. But-but, what if it had? And the Kaufman book … another plan that didn’t happen, dreamed up by one man.

    Someone who can only see Jews and nothing else is not helpful to the cause of Truth, not even the cause of Truth for Germany. Truth for Germany cannot be gained by blindness toward Britain.

    You’re acting as if the post WWI and WWII British atrocities against the Germans are uniquely “fiendish”

    They are. But not “post.” During. There is nothing that will probably ever surpass the Dresden firebombing for fiendishness, taking place when the war was already won. It accomplished nothing in that regard. The British didn’t even have a fake holocaust, or any mistreatment by the Germans as did the Jews, to blame for their cold, calculated inhumanity toward German women and babies. It hardly bears thinking about.

    Do you think they could at least apologize, with sincerity? Oh, but that would mean admitting that their dear Winnie did something wrong. Winnie later blamed his Air Marshall, who was following his orders! There you have the essence of the noble British.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @KenH
  360. geokat62 says:
    @Tim Driscoll

    Contrast this to 1972, when George McGovern vowed to cut the defense budget in half — and it wasn’t even nearly as big then as it is now!

    You were close enough, but it’s given me an excuse to repost one of my favourite quotes:

    “Senator McGovern is very sincere when he says that he will try to cut the military budget by 30%. And this is to drive a knife in the heart of Israel… Jews don’t like big military budgets. But it is now an interest of the Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the United States… American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel.” – Irving Kristol

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  361. geokat62 says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    There you have the essence of the noble British.

    Lady, in case you haven’t noticed, the West is about to be swept into the dustbin of history and you’re still hung up on grievances from the Second World War?

    Don’t you think it’s high time you buried the hatchet and focus on the Mack truck that’s headed our way?

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  362. @Tim Driscoll

    That’s because Warren and Sanders are fake leftists (and Warren is a joke candidate to boot).

    • Agree: AnonFromTN
  363. Iris says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Thank you, dear Mighty.
    Surprising candour. Amazing how Anti-Semitic the NeoCons were, back in the 70’s 🙂 🙂

  364. Paul C. says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    That government was the result of the vindictive rules decided by (first) France, (second) Britain, with lesser input by the USA and nothing by the Jews except behind the scenes.

    Here’s research worth considering: https://namethejew.com/all-of-the-allied-forces-leaders-in-world-war-2-were-jewish/

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  365. @Tired of Not Winning

    ‘Tulsi Gabbard needs to add one more thing to her campaign and she will win: promise a drastic cut on immigration in favor of American workers…’

    Tulsi Gabbard will never win because the media will always shut her out, and the media will always shut her out because she doesn’t advocate the policies Israel has specified American presidential candidates must advocate.

    It’s not complicated.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  366. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Tim Driscoll

    let alone the rest of the Democratic field, all of whom are left-of-center to various degrees.

    They don’t look very left-of-centre to me. They look pretty right-wing but they make a big noise about Social Justice so people will think they’re left-wing. They’re also in favour of Open Borders which is, as Bernie Sanders admitted, a right-wing ideology.

    Since they’re essentially right-wing it’s hardly surprising that they just love the military-industrial complex. They love it almost as much as they love the banks.

  367. @geokat62

    [Endless off-topic personal quarreling on comment-threads really isn’t good behavior.]

    To and to Chuck and Colin:
    I’m in a conversation with KenH who addressed me on the topic under discussion, not with you, so butt out. It’s of no consequence to me what you think.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  368. @Paul C.

    This is old stuff, not relevant. I’ve been there, done that. Believe me, I’m way ahead of you. But thanks anyway. Don’t mean to be rude.

  369. RobinG says:
    @Colin Wright

    “Zigh.” Do we have to leave you on the short bus with the Chuckwad?

  370. Art says:

    Overfill Crowds in NYC for Tulsi Town Halls

    • Replies: @alexander
  371. @Carolyn Yeager

    Moderator: Why tell me? I’m not doing the off-topic quarreling. I’m fending off hostile attacks by hostile men to whom you say nothing. I have seen far worse here than this little comment of mine.

  372. @follyofwar

    Gabbard has also called for pardons for Assange and Snowden. That says a lot.

  373. @Wizard of Oz

    The Nose has never come up short on workarounds. The talmud itself is a workaround for any OT-proscribed moral or ethical treatment of goyim.

    Some accommodation at the magic wall for a President Haley would be found, and it would be a great deal more believable than PerfectNose-Ivanka-Shiksa-Goddess’ conversion to Noseism.

  374. alexander says:
    @Art

    Go Tulsi !…GO !!!!!

  375. Rurik says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Hey AnonTN, I said I would elaborate further, so I have a few moments.

    However, I advise Germans to remember that German troops were in the Baltics and in Ukraine during WWII, and we all know how that ended.

    I’m not a Nazi apologiest, and I consider their racial hubris to be their undoing, but I’m also 100% convinced that the Nazi scourge was a direct response to the genocidal threat of Bolshevism/communism/Jewish supremacist “capitalism” – that drove the people of Russia and Europa into sheer madness – in a deliberately contrived war of mass fratricide. Exactly like ((they’d)) love to do once again, today.

    That’s my two centavos, for what it’s worth.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  376. Rurik says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    I can’t improve on Geo’s response to you in 369.

    It was perfect.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  377. Rurik says:
    @KenH

    Holodomor debunking is not and I’m still waiting on more than just a few Russians denying it (and Katyn and the mass rape of German women) to protect their ethnic pride and maintain the highly partisan narrative of the “Great Patriotic War” against the murderous Krauts.

    But I will say that I don’t believe the Holodomor is a reflection of the Russian national character as Jewish communism brought out the worst in them. So much of what happened during the communist era is an aberration.

    Perfectly stated Ken.

    I agree 100%

  378. Rurik says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Hey Brother Chuck!

    Always a pleasure to read your posts.

    The video’s a bit long, but I’ll see if I can plod though some of it.

    Perpetual respect to you too, me brother..

  379. KenH says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Are you unable to accept defeat?

    That’s very British of you.

    You haven’t won this debate and I’m only trying to put things into context which you’re having a difficult time doing.

    If you must know I do have British lineage along with Scottish, Irish, German and Scandinavian, but you’re off your meds if you think I’m a partisan Brit who’s trying to exonerate Britain for war crimes they committed against the Germans. And your mind seems capable only of pinballing between the starvation blockade after WWI and the Dresden bombing as if those were the two most singular acts of depravity and fiendishness from 1914 to 1945 when as bad as they were non-British nations and peoples did far worse to Germans and non-Germans such as:

    1) The destruction of the Volga Germans by Stalin and his (((henchmen))).
    2) The forced expulsion of 12-14 million ethnic Germans from Eastern Europe resulting in the deaths of up to two million.
    3) Soviet Jew Ilya Ehrenburg exhorting Russian troops to “kill the German” and “If you kill one German, kill another — there is nothing more amusing for us than a heap of German corpses”. Ehrenburg’s words had their intended sanguinary effect during the Russian drive towards the German fatherland.

    But his name isn’t Winston Churchill so you don’t care and your mind will just pinball back to the blockade of Germany in WWI or Dresden.

    Now you want to bring in the Morgenthau Plan. A Plan … that didn’t happen. But-but, what if it had? And the Kaufman book … another plan that didn’t happen, dreamed up by one man.

    A plan that almost did happen and is illustrative of what the Jews would have done had they the means and opportunity. They had the motive. Had a prominent Brit wrote such a genocidal plan for the Germans you would be taking a much different tack and screaming it and slobbering from the rooftops instead of being so dismissive.

    The British didn’t even have a fake holocaust, or any mistreatment by the Germans as did the Jews, to blame for their cold, calculated inhumanity toward German women and babies.

    I don’t disagree but the Volga Germans weren’t mistreating anyone and neither were the German communities that had existed in Eastern Europe for centuries. They were the wrong ethnic group in the wrong place and time.

    Do you think they could at least apologize, with sincerity?

    They should. Have you written an open letter to Theresa May and the British government? I’m sure the ADL would support you 100%.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
    , @EugeneGur
  380. @Rurik

    Well, here are my two cents.

    This theory is proven false by a simple fact WWII was a direct continuation of WWI, which started before Bolshevism appeared as a major force, and which actually gave Bolshevism a chance it wouldn’t have otherwise. The fighting blocks were exactly the same, except that before WWII Germany absorbed Austria. But even “independent” Hungary happened to be exactly where it was in WWI – on the German side.

    Both wars were a direct result of British policy “let you and him fight”. Brits always wanted Germany and Russia to fight and weaken each other, when Russia was an anti-communist tsarist Empire, as well as when it became Bolshevik USSR.

    Not to mention that helping Nazism out of fear of Bolshevism is about as logical as committing suicide out of fear of death.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  381. @Rurik

    Really. I think that’s an admission of defeat because I countered specific claims you made, to which Geo’s response doesn’t really apply.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  382. @KenH

    Okay Ken, we’re not going to come to any agreement and that’s okay.

    Although you are closer to my views than anyone else I’ve had an exchange with in this thread, and maybe others too, you just aren’t ready to accept that the British treated the Germans worse than did the Jews. Do you think the British weren’t okay with the Morgenthau Plan, too. We know it was only the Soviet threat that changed their minds. There are other British atrocities that I could name, not only against Germans, but I won’t. At Dresden, along with high explosive bombs which started unquenchable fires, they added phosphorus bombs that burned even in the water and turned things to white ash. You can read about that if you need to. The results in Dresden were worse than the atomic bombing of Japanese cities, I think, and certainly killed more people.

    I think you would acknowledge this but for your need to have the Jews be the ultimate evil force in the world. I agree they are a terrible problem for us, but we have done as much damage to ourselves as they have done to us. Just of a different sort, I guess.

    I wish you hadn’t included that “I’m off my meds” and I would be “screaming and slobbering from the rooftops.” It detracts from your argument and my respect for you. You have also confused perpetrators and victims, as when you said the Volga Germans weren’t mistreating anyone in reference to my saying the British hadn’t been mistreated by the Germans. And to that point, expulsion and deportation to labor camps of ‘ethnic enemies’ is pretty common, even if cruel. Most everyone has done it.

    As for writing a letter to the British government, they don’t need a letter from me to know they’re covering up their sins.

    I wish you well and hope to meet up with you again. I don’t want to get another note from the Mod warning me I’m off-topic.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
    , @KenH
  383. TJ1976 says:

    Interesting no one is connecting the Council on Foreign Relations dots. Gabbard, George Stephanopoulos, Michael Chertoff, Michael McFaul, Michael Morell, Kori Schake and Bill Kristol are all CFR.

    Makes one think this article is a limited hangout.

    The CFR are the power behind big news & the founding fathers of propaganda  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcA76lcXtwU&fe=   

    The CFR controls Media https://cfrmedia.com/  Here is a great series on CFR founding father Walter Lippmann’s stooge Freud’s nephew Edward Bernays. These two wrote the book on propaganda and how to use it to shape public opinion.  https://web.archive.org/web/20160304040218/http:/smellslikehumanspirit.com/edward-bernays-propaganda

    Tulsi is a Council on Foreign Relations member – all CFR members are psychopaths – you can’t belive anything she says – she would be like CFR member Bill Clinton and CFR member G.W. Bush AND CFR member Carter and simply advance globalization, destruction of the constitution, religion, the traditional family and US sovereignty.

    The big question that needs to put to her is if she is president will her National Security Policy be like Obama’s and make the USA part of an international order or like Trump’s and be America First
    If you don’t want to see US sovereignty and the US constitution destroyed Vote for candidates that are anti-globalist – you can tell the difference by their National Security Policies
    Trump’s National Security Strategy – America First https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/new-national-security-strategy-new-era/

    Obama’s National Security Policy says US to join “International Order”  https://tinyurl.com/y9wbnlns 
     
    A big difference Obama’s policy = CFR globalization Trump’s doesn’t

    This is not a Democratic or Republican issue – do the majority of Democrats really want to see US sovereignty and our constitution destroyed?

    Will voting for Trump drain the swamp of CFR globalists that control our government  – No 
    But at least you have a National Security Policy you can back and if followed lead to preserving our Bill of Rights and our Sovereignty – this is the national security policy both parties should adopt – belonging to an international order is just what we don’t want who are going to be the leaders of the international order? My guess would be the CFR ruling elite and the ruling elite the CFR establishes in other nations.

    Council on Foreign Relations members in presidential administrations back to Wilson (100 years)
    https://tinyurl.com/y7obkkwp

    CFR and Bilderbergers in the Trump Administration 
    https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/3582/CFR-Members-And-Bilderberg-Attendees-Appointed-By-Donald-Trump-Taken-from-the-CFR-membership-and-Bilderberg-participant-lists.aspx

    CFR Policy Planning Network in the Clinton-Bush-Obama administrations policy planning network 
    https://tinyurl.com/ojpd6of

    Council on Foreign Relations member Jimmy Carter admits the US is an Oligarchy 

     
    Council on Foreign Relations member Bill Clinton’s wife and Council on Foreign Relations member Chelsea’s mom Hillary tells us the CFR runs USA 
    https://tinyurl.com/y9259ury

    The DHS/TSA is a Council on Foreign Relations created Federal Police Force. CFR mbr DHS head Napolitano pushed DACA 
    https://tinyurl.com/ya4jqbvs

    • Replies: @Rurik
  384. Incitatus says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    CY: “Now you want to bring in the Morgenthau Plan. A Plan … that didn’t happen. But-but, what if it had? And the Kaufman book … another plan that didn’t happen, dreamed up by one man.”

    KH: “A plan that almost did happen and is illustrative of what the Jews would have done had they the means and opportunity. They had the motive. Had a prominent Brit wrote such a genocidal plan for the Germans you would be taking a much different tack and screaming it and slobbering from the rooftops instead of being so dismissive.”

    CY: “…the British treated the Germans worse than did the Jews. Do you think the British weren’t okay with the Morgenthau Plan, too. We know it was only the Soviet threat that changed their minds.”

    Haven’t you both overlooked the Führer’s Nerobefehl? No need for a Morgenthau Plan. Mr. Big himself ordered same 19 Mar 1945.

    And don’t forget Nazi compassion for Warsaw:

    “The city [Warsaw] must completely disappear from the surface of the earth and serve only as a transport station for the Wehrmacht. No stone can remain standing. Every building must be razed to its foundation.”
    -Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler 17 Oct 1944 staff conference

    Up to 200,000 Polish civilians were killed, 700,000 expelled as the city was systematically leveled by Jan ’45. 10,455 buildings; 923 historical monuments (94%); 25 churches; 14 libraries (including the National Library); 81 primary schools, 64 high schools, the University of Warsaw, Warsaw University of Technology, etc. Captain Klochkov recorded 17 Jan 1945:

    “We saw the destruction of Warsaw when we entered its empty streets…Nothing was left but ruins and ashes covered by snow. Badly starved and exhausted residents were making their way home.” [Antony Beevor ‘The Fall of Berlin1945’ p.22].

    85% of Warsaw was destroyed. 162,000 Poles remained: 12% of pre-war population [1,310,000].

    But for General Dietrich von Choltitz, Paris would have suffered the same fate August 1944.

    Morgenthau? Hitler had far deeper reserves of messianic spite. Turned, in the end, against Germans:

    “If the war is lost, the nation will also perish. This fate is inevitable. There is no necessity to take into consideration the basis which the people will need to continue even a most primitive existence. On the contrary, it will be better to destroy these things ourselves, because this nation will have proved to be the weaker one and the future will belong solely to the stronger eastern nation. Besides, those who will remain after the battle are only the inferior ones, for the good ones have all been killed.”
    -Adolf Hitler to Albert Speer, March 1945

  385. @Rurik

    The lie starts at the beginning.
    A “Combat Veteran” is in the field.
    She was an Medic and not an combat one.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi_Gabbard#LGBT_rights

    • Replies: @Dr. E. Black
  386. @6:00 – 6:20 Quote : “Where i served in a Medical Unit”

  387. Rurik says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Really. I think that’s an admission of defeat

    I’m not here to ‘win’. I’m here as a student to learn, and point out egregious wrongs when I see them.

    Cheers.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  388. Rurik says:
    @TJ1976

    Tulsi is a Council on Foreign Relations member

    says it all, I know

    But at some point we beleaguered Americans, exasperated with the absolute corruption of our federal government and institutions, angry over the Eternal Wars for Israel, and the evils we’re being expected to promulgate the world over on the most put-upon and defenseless people, have to at some point simply say, (even figuratively) ‘fuck you!’, to the assorted politicians that we vote for to end the wars, but who always end up betraying us.

    I suppose Tulsi and Rand would be no different, and would serve the fiend as willingly as the rest,

    but then I imagine Rand going home for Thanksgiving dinner, and having to face his dad.

    That’s what I’ve got to cling to. A tiny, amorphous, thread bare, gossamer hope that somehow, there’s still a shred of human decency left somewhere in Washington, DC. Even if it’s just the long-faded memories of a young boy playing catch with his dad in the back yard, and remembering with pride how his father stood up to the bullies in government to keep his own integrity intact. Perhaps, as much as for any other reason, to deserve the respect of his son.

  389. @Incitatus

    Haven’t you both overlooked the Führer’s Nerobefehl? No need for a Morgenthau Plan. Mr. Big himself ordered same 19 Mar 1945.

    Well, where is it? No one has ever seen it. Since it doesn’t exist.

    […] it will be better to destroy these things ourselves, because this nation will have proved to be the weaker one and the future will belong solely to the stronger eastern nation. Besides, those who will remain after the battle are only the inferior ones, for the good ones have all been killed.”
    -Adolf Hitler to Albert Speer, March 1945

    You don’t give a real source, but the Nuremberg turncoat Speer is known to have lied about many things he attributed to Hitler (post-war, of course). Even just about architecture – those interested can read https://carolynyeager.net/battle-architects. I don’t expect you, Incitatus, to be interested as you are a propagandist with no interest in the truth.

    I gather you are another member of the Holocaust Controversies contingent that is here … someone to avoid.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  390. @Rurik

    I’m here as a student to learn, and point out egregious wrongs when I see them.

    You have a lot to learn. In your next comment #401, you imagine Rand Paul going home to Daddy’s for Thanksgiving, and getting a talking to. Rand is the head of his own family so it’s more likely if they got together for Thanksgiving (a big IF), it would be Ron going to his son’s house.

    Deciding that Tulsi Gabbard would be a good choice as a protest vote, that such would make any difference at all, is hopelessly naive, or ignorant.

    Keep learning.

  391. Tlotsi says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Actually, LBJ was the first Jewish president.

  392. sally says:
    @Tired of Not Winning

    CPI.. congress, president and Israel.. will cut Tulsi out unless everyone stands up. put a Tulsi Gabbard for President sign in front yards.. . direct campaign money to her .. why: cause your vote does not count.. or lets put it this way, if she wins the popular vote she may not be allowed to be the President <= the electoral college will overrule the popular vote. <=read the constitution.

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk has a great story on Assange.. Swedish court found insufficient evidence for the rape charge.. that story like Tulsi's story will not reach the American people..

    Those in charge of the media are private parties.. they are not government mostly they represent the monopoly powered corporations and their private wall street and global foreign investors. . but the owners of the media business can make sure only candidates whom the "media owners" approve of.. are elected.. and no person not in favor of war gets elected

    Remember there are only 3 votes each American gets for the 525 that make up the two house of congress <=425 members of the house, 1 from each district and 100 senators, 2 from each state).
    You Mr. Citizen get to vote for the two senators from your state, and for the one member of the house from your voting district.. <=that is not a democracy?
    Even though you go to the polls and vote for the President your vote does not count.
    both house of congress (all 525 of them are Article I of the constitution) .. but the President is Article II.

    The voters problem with Article II candidates is that it does not matter how the voters vote, popular votes don't count. The electoral college, not the popular vote of the people, elects the President and his bottle washer.. no matter the popular vote. <==so why the big deal about the popular vote for president divide to conquer.. is the rule and the law of cancellation..

    9 guys on Island, 1 elected president, he divides the 8 remaining into two groups by creating issues the media can use to polarize the people's beliefs.. Those who are for abortion and those who are against, and those who are against Immigration and those who are for. so the votes look like this
    Democraps Repukaturds the 9th guy
    Pro Abortion 4 for 4 against makes the decision
    Pro Immigration 4 against 4 for makes the decision

    I believe the only successful strategy open to governed Americans is to refuse to vote for any candidate from either of the two parties. Because those parties have always field candidates that once in elected office, did exactly the opposite of their campaign promises and not once did either party the federal prosecutor do anything about it. Lying is a symbol of party politics in USA governed America.

    If a third party cannot be found with an honest candidate willing to bring about what is important to the majority of Americans then, the Americans should write in their 3 votes for Art I Persons + write in their who they want to be the Article II persons..

    How the majority of the American people vote is controlled by the privately produced propaganda distribued over the privately owned media. The so called democracy in the Republic of USA does not extend to those the USA governs.

    When is the first time, or even the last time that you voted on a law? or when is the first time or the last you voted on a question of whether or not to make the fat kats richer by letting them control health care, or you voted on a question of whether or not the USA should make Americans go to war.. ??

    Unless you are one of the elected 525 Art I persons, you get no vote on any law. Unless you are one of the two elected Art II persons you make no decision on anything.

    What is important to the majority of Americans that needs to be figured out, leave the controversial things out this election, and instead search for and find an honest candidate to make those important things happen and find a way to get that person elected. Its not what TG believes that counts, its finding a candidate the will do what they say and what they say fits the needs and wants of the majority of Americans.

    Please correct me if I am wrong.. But both parties have served the owners of the USA, the media, the MSM, the Deep State, and Israel well, but as near as I can tell, neither party has ever served well; the Americans it governs. Its my opinion.

  393. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    Morgenthau? Hitler had far deeper reserves of messianic spite.

    OFF TOPIC!

    The topic is Tulsi Gabbard and our quest for PEACE – not Hitler.

    “NO” says the Jews – “there is only one endless subject – WWII and JEWS.”

    The tribal Jew says “you stupid Gentiles must live under our jackboot of never ending guilt – heel you dolts to our propaganda.”

    JEW — take your off topic to a dark place – we want light!

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @Incitatus
  394. EugeneGur says:
    @KenH

    Maybe he’s the Russian Alex Jones where any event where Russia or Russians committed major atrocities didn’t really happen or if they did it was an illuminati plot.

    Or perhaps you are. We are trying to explain to you that we don’t accept your narrative not because of the “national pride”, which we have a lot less of than or you and certainly a lot less arrogance, but because it’s a lie – 70%, 90%, or all 100%.

    Then we say that Holodomor never happened we do not deny there was hunger. In fact, we know that a whole lot better than you do simply because we were there. But Holodomor is not hunger as such but a political construct claiming that the Ukrainians were selectively targeted, which is an obvious lie, easily, easily debunked by the facts including family histories.

    maintain the highly partisan narrative of the “Great Patriotic War” against the murderous Krauts.

    For you it may be “narrative” but for us its our lives and the lives of our families. And these Krauts might’ve been nice to you but they were most certainly murderous towards us. Obviously, for you there could be no such thing as Patriotic War, for most of you Europeans opted to join the Krauts in their murderous fun or a remaining few preferred to relax and enjoy.

    It seems anyone with one brain cell working should be able to see the difference, but apparently you do not. Who is brainwashed, then? You guys are beyond brainwashed – you completely lack brain activity, imagination, and I am not even mentioning empathy. As to questioning your official accepted narrative – no, never.

  395. KenH says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Okay Ken, we’re not going to come to any agreement and that’s okay.

    Unfortunately it looks that way.

    I wish you hadn’t included that “I’m off my meds” and I would be “screaming and slobbering from the rooftops.”

    You shouldn’t take it personal. It seemed by your tone like you were trying to shout over me and everyone else on this topic.

    I think you would acknowledge this but for your need to have the Jews be the ultimate evil force in the world.

    Considering Jews (not Brits) have admitted to being at the forefront of multiculturalizing Europe, which will lead to demographic death of the native white Europeans, I’d say that’s hard to deny. Almost every white nation throughout the West is now being subjected to a variant of the Morgenthau plan on steroids.

    Not to get into another tit for tat but it seems to you the Brits are the greatest bogeymen from 1914 to 1945. But it was Brit Neville Chamberlain and his government who sought peace with Hitler even though his government lost power. Churchill was an early critic of zionism and communism and lauded Hitler before changing his tune some say as a result of being bought off by British Jewry (Winnie was deep in debt).

    And as far as atrocities against Germans go do not forget the murder of around one million German troops after the war via neglect by the American occupation troops (on orders from Eisenhower) in violation of the Geneva convention. This was documented by author James Bacque in his book Other Losses.

    I’m sure we’ll meet again on unz, so let’s remember even though we might disagree on some points we’re on the same side.

  396. EugeneGur says:
    @KenH

    I don’t disagree but the Volga Germans weren’t mistreating anyone

    Perhaps not. But a country engaged in a straggle for survival can ill afford to have at the back a significant group of people with divided loyalties. It was a necessity of war. May I remind you that it was a common practice conducted, with much less justification, by other powers like the US internment of the Japanese or the Britain of the Germans.

    and neither were the German communities that had existed in Eastern Europe for centuries. They were the wrong ethnic group in the wrong place and time.

    These German communities lived in the territories, such as Prussia, that belonged to Germany at the time. They contributed to the Germany’s aggressive wars like all other German territories. They were, perhaps, no more guilty that other Germans but certainly not innocent.

    non-British nations and peoples did far worse to Germans and non-Germans such as:

    An interesting list you presented here. So WORDS written by Ehrenburg are far worse than the Leningrad blockade that killed about a million? Which, by the way, didn’t make the list. In fact, nothing of what was done to the Russians made the list. You are one super impartial dude. Such tender concern for the Germans.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @KenH
  397. Art says:
    @EugeneGur

    Gee – sure am glad you guys settled WWII for the 64,894,376,499 time.

    Maybe it would be good to concentrate on today’s little Jew problem?

    Peace is wanting!

    Tulsi is doing her best – she could use some help.

    Think Peace — Art

  398. Incitatus says:
    @Art

    Morgenthau? Hitler had far deeper reserves of messianic spite.
    OFF TOPIC!
    The topic is Tulsi Gabbard and our quest for PEACE – not Hitler.

    Did I miss your message of same to Carolyn Yaeger [#307, #323, #338, #342, #367, #394], KenH [#316, #331, #351, #390] and Rurik [#294, #337]? Slip your mind?

    Don’t let your lederhosen ride up too high, mahatma. Chokes oxygen to the brain

    Peace indeed.

    • Replies: @Art
  399. Incitatus says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    “Well, where is it [the Nerobefehl]? No one has ever seen it. Since it doesn’t exist.”

    What a surprise. Caught wanting, pretend events never happened.

    What will you think of next?

    „Es ist ein Irrtum zu glauben, nicht zerstörte oder nur kurzfristig gelähmte Verkehrs-, Nachrichten-, Industrie- und Versorgungsanlagen bei der Rückgewinnung verlorener Gebiete für eigene Zwecke wieder in Betrieb nehmen zu können. Der Feind wird bei seinem Rückzug uns nur eine verbrannte Erde zurücklassen und jede Rücksichtnahme auf die Bevölkerung fallen lassen. Ich befehle daher:
    1. Alle militärischen Verkehrs-, Nachrichten-, Industrie- und Versorgungsanlagen sowie Sachwerte innerhalb des Reichsgebietes, die sich der Feind zur Fortsetzung seines Kampfes irgendwie sofort oder in absehbarer Zeit nutzbar machen kann, sind zu zerstören.“

    – Fotomechanischer Nachdruck München 1989, Bd. 41 (= Dok-Bd. 17), S. 430 (Dok. Speer-25)

    Lesson? Willful blindness is not an argument.

    “You don’t give a real source, but the Nuremberg turncoat Speer is known to have lied about many things he attributed to Hitler (post-war, of course).”

    Speer isn’t a “real source”? Your qualifications for vetting Speer? Sources for his dishonesty? Other than Gitta Sereny vis-à-vis knowledge of régime extermination?

    “I don’t expect you, Incitatus, to be interested as you are a propagandist with no interest in the truth.”

    Projection: another surprise!

    “I gather you are another member of the Holocaust Controversies contingent that is here”

    Sorry. You “gather” wrong.

    UR’s perpetual “Holocaust Controversies” don’t interest me. Cats-and-dogs fighting again.

    Tar-Baby Wally is fully capable hawking the tedious ‘6m, KZ vacation resorts, see codoh’ mime to morons, more power to him.

    You seem the type that thinks about little else. Wonder why? Related to Ilse Koch (née Köhler) by any chance? Like tattoos and leather?

    Last chance to comment on the needless leveling of 85% of Warsaw after putting down the uprising, depopulating it 88%, and proposing same for Paris. What interest did it serve? Tell us why it wasn’t pure spiteful nihilism, soon turned against ordinary Germans in a perverted Wagnerian libretto.

    The NSDAP was the greatest enemy of the German people since Wilhelm II, Moltke Jünger, Ludendorff and Hindenburg. Consider Himmler, destroyer of Warsaw, who looked on the bright side:

    “Nothing can be defended so outstandingly as a major city or a field of rubble…Here we must defend…the country…The saying ‘till the last cartridge and bullet’ must be no idle phrase, but a fact. It must be our sacred duty to ensure that the sorrowful and costly exemplar which Warsaw gave us is enacted by the Wehrmacht and Volkssturm for every German city which has the misfortune to be encircled and besieged.”
    -Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler Oct 1944 [Stargardt ‘The German War’ p.459]

    And where did Loyal Heinie end up? Not firing a last bullet in “outstanding rubble” defending Germany. Self-inflicted poison caught pretending to be bogus Sergeant Heinrich Hitzinger. What a guy!

    “someone to avoid”

    Couldn’t agree more.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  400. KenH says:
    @EugeneGur

    It was a necessity of war. May I remind you that it was a common practice conducted, with much less justification, by other powers like the US internment of the Japanese or the Britain of the Germans.

    But communism denies ethnic realities and says everyone is simply a worker of the world and a member of a class, so explain the contradictions in communist thinking during WWII? Many Japanese Americans were new arrivals/first generation and refused to renounce loyalty to emperor Hirohito and Japan, so Americans had more justification for interning them than Russia did the Volga Germans. The conditions of American internment camps were far better than what the Volga Germans were provided which led to a substantial number of their deaths.

    The Volga Germans were not recent immigrants nor were they marching around the streets sieg heiling and flying swastika flags.

    They were, perhaps, no more guilty that other Germans but certainly not innocent.

    The vast majority were non-combatants, so IOW they were guilty of being German. But you and others will gnash your teeth when Jews or Russians are on the receiving end of collective ethnic punishment.

    So WORDS written by Ehrenburg are far worse than the Leningrad blockade that killed about a million?

    Words sure do matter when they come out of Hitler’s or Goebbels’ mouth, right? Atrocities against Russians was beyond the scope of the discussion. But if you want to carp about wrongdoing against them then why not mention the millions that Lenin and Stalin and their heavily Jewish NKVD imprisoned and killed before the German invasion or the approximately 150K Soviet soldiers that were killed by their own commanders as a matter of military policy for cowardice, retreating or falling in to German hands.

    • Replies: @EugeneGur
    , @AnonFromTN
  401. @Incitatus

    LOL. As I said, where is it? And you give me this! It’s another hoax, and not a very good one. Where is an image of this “order from Hitler?” Why only some text, with no signature, no date, nothing official.

    The reason it’s not well known–and it should and would be if it were real–is because it’s not real. Responsible historians don’t speak of it. It exists on Wikipedia and on a few websites in German.

    You seem to be an angry Pole who takes pleasure in lying about just about everything. Just my impression.

    Sources for [Speer’s] dishonesty?

    I gave you one – the link to Hermann Giesler at my website. Can’t you read? Or aren’t you willing to.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  402. Escher says:
    @Saggy

    I don’t know. He seems to be slowly finding his way, arm-twisting Mexico and trying to do the same with China to do his bidding.

  403. Rurik says:
    @AnonFromTN

    This theory is proven false by a simple fact WWII was a direct continuation of WWI, which started before Bolshevism appeared as a major force,

    Bolshevism was simply the manifestation of genocidal Jewish supremacism as it was expressed in Russia, funded by NYC Jewish “capitalists’.

    It dovetailed (not coincidentally) with the wars against Germany (Western Civilization) from the West (((Perfidious and it’s vassals))).

    The ‘capitalists” in London and NYC, were fellow travelers (if not fellow ethnics) with the commies in Russia. Indeed, as I mentioned, they funded them. Just look at how eager FDR was to recognize the murderous, genocidal, Orwellian, imperial horror called the Soviet Union.

    But even “independent” Hungary happened to be exactly where it was in WWI – on the German side.

    Hungary had a taste of murderous, genocidal, Jewish supremacist Bolshevism under Kun. Are they to blame for not wanting more of the same?

    Both wars were a direct result of British policy “let you and him fight”. Brits always wanted Germany and Russia to fight and weaken each other, when Russia was an anti-communist tsarist Empire, as well as when it became Bolshevik USSR.

    Exactly like today!

    Because both Germany and Russia are full of hardy, strong, independent, intelligent (often beautiful) White people. And that drives the Jewish supremacists delirious with seething, envious, murderous rage.

    Not to mention that helping Nazism out of fear of Bolshevism is about as logical as committing suicide out of fear of death.

    This is perhaps the most erroneous, if not down-right disingenuous thing I’ve read in a long time.

    I’ve been posting here for a while now. Occasionally, I’ve been asked why I chose the handle ‘Rurik’ as my ‘name’. Well the reason for that is because at the time I started posting, the ZUS (((State Dept.))) was energetically engaged with trying to foment a war between Russia and Ukraine. (‘Yats is our guy’, ‘Putin shot down the plane!’, and all that rot). So my agenda was to act as a mollifying force, (however insignificant ; ), yet nevertheless I wanted to do my part. So I chose an historical figure (since the name I was using at the time was ‘Bob’, and I had to find a more suitable handle), that I considered to be poised directly between the heritage and culture and histories of both Russia and Ukraine. In the hope that I could walk the line between these two nations, and do my part for rationality and peace and reason.

    So anyways, this is an issue I have interest in, and have some knowledge of.

    helping Nazism out of fear of Bolshevism

    This is the crux of the issue that is opening up Russia and Eastern Europe to more Jewish supremacist (English, if you like), ‘Let’s you and him fight’.

    It’s the reason NATO is invited and welcomed into every last tiny former Soviet satellite state- with open arms.

    Because the arrogant (sorry,- chest thumping) Russians continue to delude themselves that the Red Army rapists’ were ‘liberators’, when all historical and empirical and rational evidence points to the opposite. They were enslavers and murderers and tyrants.

    Why do you think millions of Cossacks and other Russians and Poles and Ukrainians and Norwegians and Estonians and Latvians and Hungarians fought on the (hated) German side? Because they wanted to fight against their own nations and kill their own peoples and culture and were ‘traitors’?

    Or because they saw the Soviet fiend for what it was; a genocidal attempt by Jewish supremacists, (a la Bela Kun, Lazar Kaganovich, et al), to ‘kill the best of the Gentiles’, and enslave the rest.

    Exactly as we see playing out today.

    Indeed, if Hillary would have won the election, and declared that all Deplorables were personae non gratae, whose property was to be forfeited and whose liberty to be relinquished, then just as the Cossacks fought the fiend of their day, so too would I and millions of Americans, take up arms against ‘our own government’, because that would be exactly what happened to all those Russians and Ukrainians who donned the (hated) German uniform in order to fight to protect their nations and families and homes- from the genocidal murderers that were the Bolsheviks.

    ‘whew’

    And that is why “helping Nazism out of fear of Bolshevism” didn’t only make perfect sense, but it was also the only option for those men whose souls were still intact, and who were not about to be slaves, or see their children be slaves.

    Just as it would be the only option if Hillary were in absolute power in the ZUSA, in the way Stalin and his Jewish supremacists were in Russia at the time.

    I don’t know if any of this can make a dent in the chest-thumping vanity of your typical ultra-nationalist Russian, but my endeavors to do so are not anti-Russian in the least. Quite the contrary, I’m trying to do what I can to make Russians understand why Estonians, for example, want NATO bristling with missiles and tanks, on their territory. And the reason is because Russians stubbornly cling to the idiotic and dangerous absurdity that the Red Amy were ‘liberators’. It makes them feel warm and fuzzy about themselves as superior, and allows them to dump on Germans and others, like the Ukrainians who fought on the side of Germany, (following the horrors of the Holodomor) as ‘traitors’ to (((Bolshevik))) Russia.

    This is insane.

    And dangerous.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @AnonFromTN
  404. EugeneGur says:
    @Art

    today’s little Jew problem

    Jew problem? I don’t see any Jew problem – I see lots of problems but Jews as such are certainly not one of them.

    If you go that route again – blaming the Jews for the the ills in the world – it’s not going to bring peace. BTW what are you proposing to do with your “little Jew problem” – kill them all?

    • Replies: @Art
  405. EugeneGur says:
    @KenH

    But you and others will gnash your teeth when Jews or Russians are on the receiving end of collective ethnic punishment.

    Don’t get me wrong – I don’t condone collective punishment no matter who it applies to, even to the Germans. That said, the Jews and Russias have been the victims, and not of punishment but of straightforward uncomplicated genocide. These Germans you mentioned simply got a tiny tinny taste of their own medicine, that’s all. And that’s the context you are trying to avoid so assiduously.

    Atrocities against Russians was beyond the scope of the discussion.

    They always are, aren’t they? It’s the offenses against little innocents Germans that break our hearts.

    why not mention the millions that Lenin and Stalin and their heavily Jewish NKVD imprisoned and killed before the German invasion

    This is a classic example of what you people like to call “whataboutery”. Whatever Lenin, Stalin, NKVD or all of them put together did does not negate the German actions or absolve the Germans of anything. Why bring it up every time? It’s a logical fallacy, you know.

    the approximately 150K Soviet soldiers that were killed by their own commanders

    This is pure BS – never happened.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @James Forrestal
    , @KenH
  406. Rurik says:
    @EugeneGur

    the Jews and Russias have been the victims

  407. Rurik says:
    @Rurik

    This is insane.

    And dangerous.

    case in point..

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-putin/putin-says-russia-u-s-relations-are-getting-worse-and-worse-mir-tv-idUSKCN1TE0L7

    pledged to deploy 1,000 U.S. troops to Poland, a step sought by Warsaw to deter potential aggression from Russia.

    and why?

    Because Russia refuses to repudiate the crimes of the Soviet era.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  408. @Art

    ” Tulsi is doing her best-she could use some help”

    “Think peace-Art”

    Yeah sure because when a Democrat is in the white house we will automatically experience peace”

    We can just forget about Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden, Hamburg, Pforzheim, Mannheim, Kaiserlautern, Heilbron, Schweinfurt, Berlin, and scores of other civilian targets with untold numbers of civilian victims, A-bombed and firebombed by :

    DEMOCRATS : Roosevelt and Truman.

    And then we can move on to other peaceful endeavors of the Democrats such as Korea, Vietnam, etc.

    Look there is most certainly something abjectly flawed regarding the reality perception of anyone who would ever consider voting for a lying, fork-tongued Democrat.

    The Republicans are bad enough, however the Democrats are simply the world champions in the areas of deception, graft, underhandedness, and war-mongering.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained uS army vet, and pro jazz artist.

    • Replies: @Art
  409. @KenH

    Let me put it simply: if John Doe at some time murdered Jane Doe, does that make every murderer after that innocent? Yes or no, please.

  410. @Rurik

    If on your planet Hitler’s Gestapo was any better than Stalin’s NKVD, or Hitler’s subjects were any less slaves than Stalin’s subjects, I want to move from our Earth to your planet.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  411. @Rurik

    NATO and the US will defend Poland exactly like the UK and France did in 1939. The only defense Poland has is that Russia does not give a hoot about it, and won’t take any parasites the USSR used to support even if offered.

  412. Art says:
    @EugeneGur

    BTW what are you proposing to do with your “little Jew problem” – kill them all?

    I want PEACE – even for Jews – I say “Do No Harm” – that means Jews also.

    I am a philosophical Christian that says forgiveness is superior to justice.

    Your problem is that not everyone thinks the way I do.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

  413. Art says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    ” Tulsi is doing her best-she could use some help”

    Yeah sure because when a Democrat is in the white house we will automatically experience peace”

    Are all “Mensa” patients as in love with labels like you are?

    Think Peace — Art

  414. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    Don’t let your lederhosen ride up too high

    Oh dear — in a NY second – out comes the “nazi” card!

    Is “nazi” embedded in the defective Jew brainstem?

    Do No harm — Art

  415. Rurik says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Hitler’s subjects were any less slaves than Stalin’s subjects,

    Contrast the Vichy or Quisling governments and treatment of the French and Norwegians vs. the treatment of the Kulaks or Polish leadership at Katyn, and I suspect you get a sense.

    Life in Germany for the Germans under Hitler was a God-send compared to Weimar.

    Life in Russia for your typical Russian under Stalin during those years was often described as a ‘terror’.

    Especially if you were a professional or successful tradesman or craftsman. God help you if you were an intellectual or poet or free thinker of any kind.

    I would imagine life in Nazi Germany would have been oppressive for someone like myself, not being prone to fascist demands that I follow the leader. But under Stalin, (of Kun or Beria or Kaganovich, etc..) I’m rather certain I’d have been tortured to death.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  416. • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Art
  417. RobinG says:
    @James Forrestal

    Thank you for “best endorsement of Tulsi.” Gotta bookmark this.
    (She’s too good for the Dems.)

    STRANGE CHILDHOOD
    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/tulsi-gabbard-2020-presidential-campaign.html

  418. @EugeneGur

    the approximately 150K Soviet soldiers that were killed by their own commanders

    This is pure BS – never happened.

    It was unreal — in your mind. lol

    Read, and learn:

    http://www.thehistoryreader.com/modern-history/stalins-order-227-step-back/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrier_troops#In_the_Red_Army

    Originally Trotsky’s idea back in 1918 — but implemented on a large scale in WW2.

  419. Art says:
    @James Forrestal

    “When FiveThirtyEight asked 60 Democratic Party activists whom they didn’t want to win, Tulsi Gabbard came in first out of 17 candidate” http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/tulsi-gabbard-2020-presidential-campaign.html

    I read the unfriendly article (long). Clearly, Tulsi had a strange upbringing. Her family was part of an eastern semi-Krushna cult. Clearly, she still is close to her family (no sin). She has moderated some of their nonsense. She is Green. She is more anti-Arab then anti-Israel.

    The question for us, who like her, is how genuine is her “peace” stance?

    Hmm – Democrat activists fearing her – speaks well of her – perhaps she is the genuine article?

    Viewing her over the internet – I see someone I like. Her quest for Peace is my quest!

    Think Peace — Art

  420. KenH says:
    @EugeneGur

    That said, the Jews and Russias have been the victims, and not of punishment but of straightforward uncomplicated genocide. These Germans you mentioned simply got a tiny tinny taste of their own medicine, that’s all.

    Neither the Jews nor Russians were victims of genocide by the Germans. The Jews need the holocaust myth to guilt trip Germany and the West for special rights and privileges, military protection of Israel and billions of dollars annually from hapless goyim. Russians need the holocaust myth so they can create a false historical narrative of brave and selfless Russians liberating Jews and Slavs from Nazi murder and evil.

    And if you think the Germans only got a teeny tiny taste of their own medicine then you’re largely ignorant of WWII or only read triumphalist Russian propaganda.

    They always are, aren’t they? It’s the offenses against little innocents Germans that break our hearts.

    No, but the record needs to be set straight and the Soviet Union and allies were capable of as much murder and evil as the Germans stand accused of by court historians. We’d been treated to a steady stream of Soviet and allied propaganda, which is to say strident anti-German propaganda, since WWII ended which finally started to be contradicted in the 1980’s by the IHR and later by the growth of the internet which has provided a more balanced account.

    This is a classic example of what you people like to call “whataboutery”.

    Says the guy who started this whole debate with “whatabout Leningrad?” And if you’d read a serious book about Leningrad like the one by Anna Reid then you’d know that Stalin was partly culpable for the final death toll given his early foot dragging on evacuating citizens and sending in foodstuffs and prioritizing supplies to Moscow sector. Even during the seige they still managed to deport large numbers of Germans, kulaks, intellectuals and other minorities from the city. Supposedly fascists are the only people who ethnically profile and discriminate but it was raised to an art form in the supposedly equalitarian Soviet Union. Just like the Jewish led anti-racist left in America are the most race obsessed and anti-white hatemongers in the country.

    This is pure BS – never happened.

    Just like the Holodomor and Katyn massacre didn’t happen. Just like the deportation of one million Poles to gulags didn’t happen. Just like the mass deportation of the kulaks to gulags didn’t happen. Anything that’s inconvenient to the Russian national story simply didn’t happen and gets flushed down the memory hole.

    • Replies: @EugeneGur
  421. @Rurik

    Propaganda works. That’s why your overlords invest so much into it.

    Why don’t you compare the fate of the residents of Lidice (Czechia) or Oradour-sur-Glane (France), or the fate of the residents of more than a hundred villages in Belarus, or of hundreds of thousands of Germans interned into concentration camps by Hitler who died there with the fate of kulaks in the USSR?

    As to Katyn narrative, you can read this in English:
    http://www.erythrospress.com/store/grover-furr-katyn.html
    or even buy this book on the Amazon
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/0692134255/

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Carolyn Yeager
  422. @Art

    ‘…The question for us, who like her, is how genuine is her “peace” stance?

    Hmm – Democrat activists fearing her – speaks well of her – perhaps she is the genuine article?

    Viewing her over the internet – I see someone I like. Her quest for Peace is my quest!

    Think Peace — Art’

    For me, the issue isn’t really ‘do I like her/want her to become president?’

    We’ll cross that bridge should we ever come to it.

    The issue is, why is the media so careful to shut her out of the public eye?

    If they actually believed all the feminist/diversity crap they preach, Gabbard should be receiving too much attention, not too little. She should be their dream candidate.

    One can only conclude that it’s all fluff — that basically, they’re all servants of Israel.

    • Replies: @Art
  423. RobinG says:
    @Art

    Hey Art,

    While I try to decide just how much of a hit piece this Kerry Howley wrote, let’s just consider the anti-Arab allegation (which you made, but the article didn’t). That’s absurd. If she were ‘anti-Arab’ why would she care about Syria at all? The Syrian minorities that Assad defends (Christians, Alawites, et al) are all Arabs.

    As for Muslims, her insistence on identifying “Islamic extremism” is not a condemnation of Islam, towards which she has been respectful. I imagine Talha would agree that the ISIS headchoppers are [“Not cool”], I can hear him saying.

    Violent religious sects of any kind are a menace. Sure, it would be fun to hear [any politician] call out the rabid murderous militant Zionists, but this is hardly the time or place for that.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Colin Wright
  424. Art says:
    @Colin Wright

    For me, the issue isn’t really ‘do I like her/want her to become president?’

    We’ll cross that bridge should we ever come to it.

    The issue is, why is the media so careful to shut her out of the public eye?

    Exactly – well she be treated fairly – of course not – they will bury her with negatives questions.

    Tulsi’s goal is to get to the next debate. Her goal is a 5-10% poll number.

    In the face time that she gets – she must smile, be bold, and say unpleasant kind truthful things, that the politically correct media and the other candidates will not say. She needs to directly attack the status quo that all the other players in the debate represent. She has to say things that the media must report.

    As the others go left left left – she must stay middle middle middle. If she does a “me too” give away thing, she will not make it to debate #2. Somehow, through it all, she has maintained a true American middleclass viewpoint. While all the others are giving everything away – she needs to stay focused on the middleclass (it worked for Trump).

    Let’s be honest – Tulsi winning the nomination in 2020 has a near zero probability (the Jews and their media will not let it happen).

    With that said – her make-sense anti-war message has legs – Go – Tulsi Gabbard.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Art
  425. Art says:
    @RobinG

    If she were ‘anti-Arab’ why would she care about Syria at all? The Syrian minorities that Assad defends (Christians, Alawites, et al) are all Arabs.

    RobinG,

    Thanks for defending Tulsi. I agree 100% with your point about Assad. I think she has real hard feelings about the Sunni bad guys. When I think “Arabs” – I think of Saudi and Sunnis. “Muslim” is a different story.

    Anyway – Tulsi and her family have been outsiders for a long time – they are savey hardened politicals. I hope she is going to be in Amarica’s political life for a lot longer.

    Think Peace — Art

  426. Incitatus says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    “LOL. As I said, where is it?”

    “Out, damned spot! Out I say!”

    Hitler’s scorched earth policy is in most standard texts – Speer, Kershaw, Fest, Sereny, Stargardt, Childers, Taylor, Conot, Persico, Trevor-Rope, Galbraith. Decades since I read Shirer and Bullock, but imagine they also document it.

    Willful blindness is not an argument.

    “Hermann Giesler”

    Speer’s rival for Hitler’s patronage? Not surprising he’d slander Speer.

    “[visit] my website.”

    Said the spider to the fly.

    You can’t honestly debate subjects on this website. Visit your website? Waste of time.

    “you are a propagandist with no interest in the truth”
    “you are another member of the Holocaust Controversies contingent”
    “You seem to be an angry Pole who takes pleasure in lying about just about everything.”

    You seem prone to wild conclusions. None true.

    Hardly the basis of reality, let alone history.

    Housekeeping:

    • Why did Nazi leadership level 85% of Warsaw after putting down the uprising, depopulate it 88%, and propose same for Paris? What interest did it serve? Was it just one of the Führer’s hissy fits?

    • Why didn’t Himmler fight to “the last bullet” in the rubble he so prized? Why did he flee the front and pretend to be a sergeant? Why did he kill himself?

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Carolyn Yeager
  427. Rurik says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Why don’t you compare the fate of… …of hundreds of thousands of Germans interned into concentration camps by Hitler who died there with the fate of kulaks in the USSR?

    because it was an existential total war between the forces of International Jewish supremacist power vs. those who resisted such power, (most notably Nazi Germany).

    The Kulaks were representative of the hated White Christians who were proud and strong and capable. They had no intention of being slaves to Jewish supremacist Bolshevism, and were treated accordingly.

    Whereas the Germans who were interred during the war, were considered existential enemies of the German people.

    Remember, it was the Jews that declared war on Germany first.

    It was the Jewish supremacists who were genociding the Ukrainian (industrious, I thing you called them) farmers by the millions using the most depraved and cruel method imaginable. Slow, deliberate starvation. Forced to watch their children waste away in front their parent’s eyes, and these were the regions most successful farmers, murdered by starvation because they were the most successful farmers.

    Exactly like you see today. Their hatred for the goyim is always concentrated on the most independent and proud and spiritually strong Gentiles. That’s why they made an example out of those people in Waco. That’s why they assassinated Vicky Weaver and her son. Because they told Zog to fuck off. Leave us the fuck alone! This is the worst thing you can say to a Jewish supremacist, that you want nothing to do with them.

    Viktor Orban is in their crosshairs for simply telling the Globalist scum to fuck off. He doesn’t need them.

    Same with Putin. Lukashenko, Maduro and many others.

    Why do they hate the Brexiteers? Because the Brexiteers are telling the Globalist scum at the ((EU)) to fuck off. They don’t need them.

    The more things change, the more they stay the ((same)).

  428. @RobinG

    ‘…Violent religious sects of any kind are a menace. Sure, it would be fun to hear [any politician] call out the rabid murderous militant Zionists, but this is hardly the time or place for that.’

    Why isn’t it the time or place? Said rabid Zionists are ultimately the parties responsible for shutting Tulsi Gabbard down.

    Who else has a driving interest in silencing her? If not for them, why would it be so important to us to perpetuate anarchy in Syria and provoke war with Iran?

  429. @Art

    I read the unfriendly article (long).

    Yeah, they’ve got a pretty clear narrative there — trying to seem semi-sympathetic, while portraying here as “weird.” Though I give the author credit for having this much self-awareness:

    There was the theory that she is a toady of Assad, though often she was said to be under the control of Modi, or Putin, and I began to wonder, when we try to expose her motives, whose subjectivity we are really exploring.

    And the portrayal of her as a natural introvert who basically had to learn the personality characteristics necessary to be a successful politician is interesting.

    The question for us, who like her, is how genuine is her “peace” stance?

    Seems fairly genuine:

    When Joe Rogan mentioned the name to the [uber-Zionist] New York Times columnist Bari Weiss, she looked alarmed and laughed.

    “Monstrous ideas,” she said.

    “Well, when she was 22, she — ”

    “No! She’s an Assad toady.”

    And:

    The Nation has denounced her for “nationalism cloaked in anti-interventionism,”

    Like either of these is a bad thing…

    She’s terrible on immigration, of course — but so is most of the GOP.

    We’ll see what happens with this totally-not-a-false-flag attack on the Japanese tankers, though. The Iranians claim it happened while Shinzo Abe was meeting with Ayatollah Khamenei:

    https://www.fxstreet.com/news/irans-foreignmin-zarif-reported-attacks-on-japan-related-tankers-occurred-during-abe-khamenei-meeting-201906131006

    Cui bono?

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Art
  430. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    Hitler’s scorched earth policy is in most standard texts — yada — yada — yada

    OFF TOPIC

    You do not want to talk about the Jew evils of today – do you?

    You always change the subject to Hitler – when we should be concerned about your White House puppet and Iran starting a war for Israel.

    Your Jewish evil is unbounded!

    Do No Harm — Art

    p.s. We know you and how you hate Tulsi and her quest for peace.

    p.s. Her kindness and goodness is the anti-Jew that you fear the most.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  431. @AnonFromTN

    hundreds of thousands of Germans interned into concentration camps by Hitler who died there

    Patently false. Germans were interned for various reasons and most were released after serving their sentence. They were not dying in the camps. You should not have let that pass, Rurik.

    The alleged Oradour-sur-Glane massacre is another hoax, invented by the (Jewish) French Resistance. Vincent Reynouard, a Frenchman, has done the most to expose it all, for which he was turned into a criminal in his own country. https://www.scrapbookpages.com/Oradour-sur-Glane/Story/VincentReynouard.html and https://carolynyeager.net/saturday-afternoon-vincent-reynouard-%E2%80%93-new-video-oradour-sur-glane

    The Czech residents of Lidice, in the German Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, were indeed guilty of harboring the assassins of Protectorate Administrator Reinhard Heydrich, and under wartime conditions of collective punishment, earned their fate. And when it comes to Katyn, you are totally off the wall.

    The UR “free-speech” comment zones are unfortunately tending to be spaces for unsupported LIES to be promulgated with abandon by holocaust believers and assorted anarchists and nasties who have no respect for the truth. There is little chance for measured, honest discussion to take place in such an atmosphere.

    • Replies: @EugeneGur
    , @Rurik
  432. @Incitatus

    But for General Dietrich von Choltitz, Paris would have suffered the same fate August 1944.

    “B-b-but muh Paris!!!” bleats the ignorant, hate-filled hasbarat.

    Paris after da ebil not-sees invaded:

    Dresden after the good guys attacked:

    Not to mention that it wasn’t only enemy cities that were bombed — the Allied bombing campaign against France killed at least 70,000 civilians.

    Paris, you said?

    http://ww2today.com/21-april-1944-heavy-civilian-casualties-as-the-allies-bomb-paris

    Loyal Americans do not share your mindless lust for wars for the benefit of Israel/ international jewry that seems to consume ignorant, hate-filled hasbarats such as yourself. America First. As Tulsi Gabbard said above:

    “How does a war with Iran serve the best interest of the American people of the United States? And the fact is it does not,” Gabbard said. “It better serves the interest of people like [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin] Bibi Netanyahu and Saudi Arabia who are trying to push us into this war with Iran.”

    Israeli interests are not American interests, no matter how many long-discredited semitic canards you spew in a vain attempt to disguise that simple, self-evident fact.

    • Agree: Saggy
    • Replies: @Incitatus
  433. @Incitatus

    The only things I’ll respond to:
    “Hitler’s scorched earth policy is in most standard texts.”
    Oh sure. In what form? As a footnote? As a brief mention? But not with any lengthy, serious consideration. They wish, though.

    “Hermann Giesler”
    I’ll give that url again for the readers. People will find it very enlightening as to the character of Albert Speer. Not surprising you refuse to even look. https://carolynyeager.net/battle-architects

    You will not find this anywhere in English but on my website.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  434. RobinG says:
    @James Forrestal

    Kerry Howley is a gifted writer. She’s also extremely biased and/or mal-informed on FP, i.e. conventionally unwoke. In the section “The Blob” she exhibits her gullibility:
    “Here are the details: Bashar al-Assad is a depraved dictator best known for his willingness to murder his own people, including many children, with chemical weapons.”
    If she can’t discern false flags and propaganda, she has little hope of understanding Tulsi.

    In fact Howley (whose name is a homophone for the Hawaiian slur for white people) parrots every trite and shallow accusation she can find.
    “The Nation has denounced her for “nationalism cloaked in anti-interventionism…””
    I’d like to know who at The Nation, exactly, denounced Gabbard. How about a citation? As it happens, Nation contributor Stephen F. Cohen, (who is also husband of the editor, publisher, and part-owner Katrina vanden Heuvel), has come out strongly supporting Tulsi.

    .

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  435. EugeneGur says:
    @KenH

    Russians need the holocaust myth so they can create a false historical narrative

    OK I give up. Your scull is obviously a foot thick and is impossible to penetrate with any facts you don’t like.

    We’d been treated to a steady stream of Soviet and allied propaganda,

    Perhaps, although I doubt “the Soviet propaganda” ever reached you. Judging by your narrative, you don’t have a foggiest idea what the Soviet propaganda looked like. We, on the other hand, have been treated to a war and all its consequences. Makes a difference.

    a serious book about Leningrad like the one by Anna Reid

    Who on earth is she and what does she know about Leningrad?

    Stalin was partly culpable for the final death toll

    Of course, he is – now I know what’s so serious about that book. Blaming the victim is always a good idea – gets you off the hook.

    Anything that’s inconvenient to the Russian national story simply didn’t happen

    Some things did, some did not or not the way it is described in the West. That particular BS you referred to did not. I am sorry if the facts aren’t to you liking.

  436. EugeneGur says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    The Czech residents of Lidice, …, were indeed guilty of harboring the assassins of Protectorate Administrator Reinhard Heydrich, and under wartime conditions of collective punishment, earned their fate.

    When I read something like this I always hope that this is written by a person ff his/her meds. In such case, it wouldn’t be so horrendous, because one can’t ask too much of a sick person. However, I doubt it; I think you are all perfectly sane and dead serious.

    Collective punishment, indeed! My dear, this is classic example of a war crime, in case you didn’t know that, the very definition of it.

    But if this is ok in your mind then why are you all complain about Dresden so much? That was collective punishment in a war time, wasn’t it?

    And when it comes to Katyn, you are totally off the wall.

    Of course. That is how you best show your “respect for the truth“? No debate permitted, everything is decided, alternative views dismissed without argument? You have a very peculiar idea of
    measured, honest discussion“, or I should probably say no idea at all.

  437. @RobinG

    Kerry Howley is a gifted writer. She’s also extremely biased and/or mal-informed on FP, i.e. conventionally unwoke. In the section “The Blob” she exhibits her gullibility:
    “Here are the details: Bashar al-Assad is a depraved dictator best known for his willingness to murder his own people, including many children, with chemical weapons.”

    Or knows which side her bread is buttered on, and is just signaling her support for the party line. Hostile narrative, but some interesting [alleged] facts. What’s FP?

    This part comes across as deliberately disingenuous:

    The cult of war, however, cannot entirely explain the opposition to a candidate who constantly picks low-stakes, politically inopportune fights within her own party. During Barack Obama’s tenure, Tulsi repeatedly criticized him for failing to use the words Islamic extremism and described her concern about a “radical Islamic extremist agenda,” a move that earned her no love among members of her party, which had once considered her its future. She voted, with Republicans, to make it virtually impossible for Syrian refugees to come into the country. She has been strangely absent for votes relating to Russia and NATO and has racked up unwelcome support from Steve Bannon, Richard Spencer, and David Duke. Her divergence from party orthodoxy on many issues is striking, against her self-interest, and lacking in any apparent narrative line. There is no cohesive ideology that explains the idiosyncratic political positioning, no single point of reference from which it all makes sense, and so the relevant question regarding Tulsi Gabbard is reducible to: What is she doing?

    Wut? Seems like a pretty consistent, simple ideology — Tulsi has some basic conception of the US as an actual country (though a “proposition nation” one) rather than merely a globohomo economic zone, and opposes unnecessary foreign wars, whether with Syria, Russia, or whomever. While the Hindu thing may make her less sympathetic to Islam than many shitlibs, she’s much less eager to go to war against Muslim countries than they are.

    Hard to believe the author is incapable of comprehending this — especially given the attempt at guilt by association: “Steve Bannon, Richard Spencer, and David Duke.” Though she pulls the punch a little by throwing “unwelcome” in there. Overall reads more like a hit piece that’s deliberately constructed in such a way as to avoid sounding “mean” — while still accomplishing the goal — than a lack of understanding. I didn’t notice that the author is female… but I’m not surprised.

    Also — New York Magazine is owned by the (((Wassersteins))). They’re mostly Democrat donors, but appear to be pretty strong Zionists. Bruce Wasserstein (dead now) was a big supporter of Rahm Emanuel. I doubt they support any politicians who are anything less than gung ho for wars for Israel — or want to see them promoted in the pages of their magazine.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Art
  438. Art says:
    @James Forrestal

    From the article: Her divergence from party orthodoxy on many issues is striking, against her self-interest, and lacking in any apparent narrative line. There is no cohesive ideology that explains the idiosyncratic political positioning, no single point of reference from which it all makes sense, and so the relevant question regarding Tulsi Gabbard is reducible to: What is she doing?

    “There is no cohesive ideology that explains the idiosyncratic political positioning”

    The ideology of peace is foreign to the intellectual American elite. The idea that peace is a worthy goal “in itself” is lost on the left. The Jews have so corrupted our thinking that being anti-war is not a “cohesive ideology.”

    It used to be that women as a block, were politically anti-war – sadly today, women have been robbed of their humanity by the feminist elite.

    Tulsi’s goodness and expressions of kindness and love are anathema – those good things are seen as a frailty, that betrays feminism. In the Jew world asserting good is a sign of weakness.

    Tulsi’s traditional womanly response to war exposes feminism for what it is – an unnatural ideology.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Agree: Iris
  439. Art says:
    @James Forrestal

    We’ll see what happens with this totally-not-a-false-flag attack on the Japanese tankers, though. The Iranians claim it happened while Shinzo Abe was meeting with Ayatollah Khamenei:

    Here is an interesting article that says that Iran may have been responsible. That Iran is sending a message to Trump – your economic blockade is an act of war. “If we can not trade gulf products – no one can trade gulf products.”

    Trump is begging to talk. Trump political world will crash if there is a war. He and he along would be held responsible by the world.

    Today’s Attacks On Ships In The Gulf Of Oman Are Not In Iran’s Interest – Or Are They?

    By Moon Of Alabama

    … … … …

    “The most transparent, complete and prompt response was given by Mr [Hassan] Rouhani, the Iranian president, in his last trip to Europe. The response was clear: if Iran cannot export oil through the Persian Gulf, no-one will do this,” Velayati said, speaking at the Valdai discussion club in Russia. “Either everyone will export, or no-one,” he added.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51760.htm

    • Replies: @RobinG
  440. Incitatus says:
    @Art

    “Hitler’s scorched earth policy is in most standard texts — yada — yada — yada”
    Art: “OFF TOPIC”

    Again,

    Did I miss your message of same to Carolyn Yaeger [#307, #323, #338, #342, #367, #394, #414, #446], KenH [#316, #331, #351, #390] and Rurik [#294, #337]?

    Slip your mind, mahatma?

    Or do you only caution the (very) few that reply to neo-Nazi-nonsense?

    “p.s. We know you and how you hate Tulsi and her quest for peace.”
    “p.s. Her kindness and goodness is the anti-Jew that you fear the most.”

    Quote my hate for Tulsi, my fear. Please. Take your time. Be thorough.

    Word of advice (free). You are so possessed by Jew-hatred you are irrational.

    Polish that table leg and stay well, Art.

    • Replies: @Art
  441. Rurik says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    hundreds of thousands of Germans interned into concentration camps by Hitler who died there

    Patently false. Germans were interned for various reasons and most were released after serving their sentence. They were not dying in the camps. You should not have let that pass, Rurik.

    I’m no historian or scholar, but from what I’ve glimmered, hundreds of thousands of Jews and Gypsies and homos and commies and criminals and Catholics and others died in the camps, from all causes. Typhus, execution, starvation at the end of the war, etc..

    But more to the point, is I wish these nationalistic Russians would get a clue, and see that the fiend is using their ethno-nationalist vanity as a weapon against them.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-nato-moves-in-baltics-raise-russian-fears-11560543426

    If they had the good sense, they’d stop telling Estonians that their grandfathers who(heriocially and rightfully) killed commies, were ‘evil Nazis and fascists’.

    Because the Russian insistence that the preposterous idiocy that they were liberators at the end of the war, is going to come back and kick them in the ass.

    All they have to do is say, no, the Red Army were not liberators, but enslavers, and the Russians suffered the slavery as much as anyone. And your grandfathers and great grandfathers who fought the commie orcs, were heroes and you should honor them.

    Boom.

    Conflict used by the fiend is emasculated, and Poles and Ukrainians and Baltics can find common ground with their Russian brothers, and the Zio-fiend pounds sand.

    That is Rurik’s heartfelt dream.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  442. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    We all know you are the leader – you lead the others with your holohoax promotion – keeping hate alive – keeping guilt at the top of the agenda.

    All you have to say is the words WWII or Hitler or Nazi or holohox, and Jew victimhood is reinforced and propagated.

    There is no end to Jew evil is there.

    Do No harm — Art

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  443. RobinG says:
    @Art

    Bernard offers no evidence, so he’s just chewing the BS, like every other “analyst.” (A real analyst looks at facts, not gossip.)

    And if Iran did do it, it wasn’t with mines – as the ship’s owner observed while pointing to the damage above the water line.

    • Agree: Iris
  444. @Rurik

    I’m no historian or scholar, but from what I’ve glimmered, hundreds of thousands of Jews and Gypsies and homos and commies and criminals and Catholics and others died in the camps, from all causes. Typhus, execution, starvation at the end of the war, etc..

    One needs to actually research all this stuff, not just repeat what one hears. For example, the asocial Gypsies lived in Family Camps with their children where no one worked because they could not be trusted; they were simply interned to keep them out of society. During WWII, maybe 20,000 gypsies in Germany died of all causes, in and out of camps. The Roma followed the example of the Jews after the war and built their own Holocaust Industry. It’s not hard when the powers-that-be are in full approval.

    Same with the homos who were only incarcerated after being arrested for practicing their vice in public. There was no general roundup of homosexuals. The commies and criminals ran the barracks because there weren’t enough SS guards to control them, and the SS did not go inside the barracks. The Catholic priests were there for anti-Hitler underground activism, and the vast majority of them were Polish. They were, for the most part, well-treated, with a generous portion of wine every day. That leaves the German Jews, who were largely in the communist and criminal categories, and they were pretty good workers with special privileges.

    The greatly increased deaths in the last two months of the war was the responsibility of the Allies. They killed scores with their massive infrastructure bombing.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  445. Incitatus says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    “The only things I’ll respond to:”

    What a surprise!

    Hitler’s scorched earth policy is in most standard texts.

    “Oh sure. In what form? As a footnote? As a brief mention? But not with any lengthy, serious consideration. They wish, though.”

    Why not read them and find out? Kershaw’s ‘The End: Germany 1944-45’ is a good place to start.

    “I’ll give that url again for the readers…You will not find this anywhere in English but on my website.”

    Nice spam. Related to Wally?

    “People will find it [rival Giesler] very enlightening as to the character of Albert Speer”

    Why not read Speer’s ‘Inside the Third Reich’ and ‘Spandau Diary’? Gitta Sereny’s ‘Albert Speer: His Battle with Truth’. Joachim Fest’s ‘Speer’.

    Housekeeping [3rd request]:

    • Why did Nazi leadership level 85% of Warsaw after putting down the uprising, depopulate it 88%? It took three months; resources that could have been used fighting Soviets. What interest did it serve? Why did Hitler order the destruction of Paris?

    • Himmler prized summary justice [Standgerict] for deserters and defeatists. Anything less that zealous, cheerful fighting to “the last bullet” meant you were strung up. Why did he flee the front and become Sergeant Heinrich Hitzinger? Why did he kill himself?

  446. srm4649 says:
    @renfro

    What a brilliant statement. Care to explain? Unless you are a white liberal. Then no explanation is necessary!

  447. Incitatus says:
    @James Forrestal

    ‘But for General Dietrich von Choltitz, Paris would have suffered the same fate [as Warsaw] August 1944.’
    “B-b-but muh Paris!!!” bleats the ignorant, hate-filled hasbarat.”
    “Paris after da ebil not-sees invaded:”

    Please repost intelligibly. Happy then to respond.

    “Dresden after the good guys attacked”

    Terrible indeed. Hamburg ’43 (Operation Gomorrah) was by most accounts worse. Almost (according to German reports) produced civil insurrection. Certainly put club-foot Joe Göbbels on the map with his ‘total war’ speech. Yes indeed. Fight to the last man (I’ll be in the bunker looking after Magda and the kids).

    Where’s your picture of Warsaw Jan 1945? Suppose there’s not much left to see. Why did Hitler level Warsaw? Took three months, resources that could have defended the Reich. Why did he order Paris destroyed? Give us a hint.

    Great brain trust. Great leaders. Least of their concern? Ordinary Germans.

    “the Allied bombing campaign against France killed at least 70,000 civilians”

    • 90,000 French soldiers were killed and 200,000 wounded in 1940;
    • Two million French soldiers were taken POW in 1940, 1.5 million held captive [hostages] until 1945;
    • 350,000+ French civilians died 1940-4;
    • 650,000 French civilians were forced to work in Germany in the Service du Travail Obligatoire [deaths unknown];
    • German rationing limited the French to 1180 calories/day [Germans got 2700-4650 calories/day];
    • 80% French produce/foodstuffs were exported to Germany;
    • Germany charged France 400 million francs/day [146 billion francs/year] for occupation. Six times the actual cost, a sum sufficient to maintain a modern army of 18 million men;
    • Germany seized 154 billion francs in French expropriations [commodities, supplies, military equipment, rolling stock, etc] in 1940.

    Monuments to Nazis in France? Don’t think so.

    “Loyal Americans do not share your mindless lust for wars for the benefit of Israel/ international jew…Israeli interests are not American interests, no matter how many long-discredited semitic canards you spew in a vain attempt to disguise that simple, self-evident fact.”

    Kindly quote my “mindless lust for wars for the benefit of Israel/ international jew”.

    Take your time.

    Meanwhile, free advice. Avoid rooves and high places.

    No need to thank me.

  448. Rurik says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    the homos who were only incarcerated after being arrested for practicing their vice in public

    what about Rohm?

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  449. Incitatus says:
    @Art

    “We all know you are the leader”

    Ich bin der Führer? News to me.

    Do I get a Mercedes Cabriolet?

    “you lead the others with your holohoax promotion”

    Kindly quote my “holohoax promotion”.

    “keeping hate alive – keeping guilt at the top of the agenda”

    Isn’t that precisely what praising and promoting Nazis as blameless victims does? Dolchstoßlegende 2? Was WW2 caused by [Allies/FDR/Churchill/Stalin/International Finance/Jews/Freemasons/Versailles/Bolsheviks/favorite scapegoat]?

    You seem to agree with them, mahatma. Never mind 400,000 American deaths, millions of others.

    “There is no end to Jew evil is there”

    Aren’t you “keeping hate alive”? Sanitizing yourself with “Do No Harm” perfume?

    IMHO Jews in general are no better/no worse than the rest of us. Specificity addressing wrongs is essential. Name the culprit, not the culture, and make your case. Same for all religions, nationalities, etc.

    Just a thought.

    Have a Nice Day! Make America Great Again!

  450. Art says:
    @Art

    Tulsi’s goal is to get to the next debate. Her goal is a 5-10% poll number.

    In the soon to be Dem debate, Tulsi Gabbard must say something shocking to the body politic, that the JMSM has no choice but to report.

    Because all the other candidate will not go counter to the Jew agenda of confrontation with Iran – Tulsi can say something that will jolt the debate.

    Tulsi needs to say that as President she will – reinstate the Iran nuke agreement made by Obama. She must say that in the interest of world peace – that she will call off the very dangerous current situation with Iran.

    Halting what Trump is doing is an obvious option for anyone who truly wants peace.

    If she doesn’t do that, then she is not serious about ending regime change wars – then she is just playing Jew agenda politics like all the rest.

    It is time to be bold.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Trump would blow a tweet gasket and put Tulsi and peace front and center. How sweet would that be?

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @RobinG
  451. @Incitatus

    Happy then to respond.

    Your pathetic inability to do so, and your meaningless claim that you really could do so if you really wanted do, are duly noted.

    Sad!

    Since I’m a generous,tolerant fellow, I’ll assist you with your comprehension difficulties — please point out the bomb damage in the first photo.

    You’re welcome.

    Joe Göbbels on the map with his ‘total war’ speech. Yes indeed. Fight to the last man

    What does “unconditional surrender” mean, dummy? How about “Morgenthau Plan?” Of course, as a typically ignorant, hate-filled hasbarat, you’re wholly unaware of these simple, basic facts about WW2 – or too dishonest to admit to them.

    Why did he order Paris destroyed?

    So you’re claiming that the Germans bombed Paris? You didn’t read my link, did you?
    [Lazy as well as cognitively-crippled, apparently]

    Germany charged France blablabla

    You’re seriously trying to whine about reparations paid by Germany to France?

    You’re kidding, right? Might want to do some more reading about the whole reparations thing. Maybe start with the Versailles, and continue with this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Ruhr

  452. @Incitatus

    I point out that 70,000 French civilians were killed by “friendly” Allied bombing, and the hasbarat bleats:

    90,000 French soldiers were killed and 200,000 wounded in 1940

    So you’re attempting to equate those enemy soldiers killed in combat to the 70,000 French civilians killed by “friendly” Allied bombing while attempting to “liberate” them?

    To claim that these French civilians killed by Allied bombing must have been involved in some sort of secret guerrilla campaign against the Allies, so they must have “deserved it?”

    Kind of an odd way to look at it…

    And your complete inability to provide even the faintest simulacrum of a credible source for even a single one of your alleged “facts” is again noted, of course.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
    , @Robjil
  453. @Rurik

    Good Grief. Rohm was guilty of plotting a coup against Hitler. You have no point to make, are just being persnickety.

  454. RobinG says:
    @Art

    Yes, Art. You are right 100%. She must lean in, be bold.

    Tulsi needs to say that as President she will – reinstate the Iran nuke agreement made by Obama. She must say that in the interest of world peace – that she will call off the very dangerous current situation with Iran.

    I think she’s already said that. Am busy, no time to look, but maybe it was in the “breakfast chat” w/ Omeed Malik.

    Oh, wait … one hour ago … (does she read your comments?) …..
    Trump, Swallow Your Pride

  455. RobinG says:
    @Art

    Tulsi’s statement, under the video. [She MUST say this in the debates, no matter what they ask her! And she’s savvy enough to know that.]

    War with Iran is HIGHLY likely unless Trump swallows his pride and returns to the Iran nuclear agreement which he tore up. But I fear that he will not put the interests of our country and those who’ll be killed in such a war, ahead of his own pride and personal political interests.

    • Replies: @Art
  456. Art says:
    @RobinG

    Thanks RobinG,

    Tulsi’s video is music to my ears – love the Jesus quote “what good to gain the world – but lose your sole.”

    I do wish that she had saved it for the debate – now they will be waiting for her – armed with got-ya retorts. I also fear that some Dem candidates will copy her. (Hmm – I don’t know, maybe she did the right thing by being first? Time will tell.)

    I like the Trump personal pride remarks. He will have to attack her with tweets – that will be the best thing that could happen.

    Tulsi has put Trump in a position that he must defend his actions. “The fat is in the fire!”

    Trump already personally owns any outcomes – he has overshot himself. The Iranians know how to make a deal. They have been at it continuously for 3,000 years.

    If he backs down – Tulsi can claim credit.

    Think Peace — Art

  457. Incitatus says:
    @James Forrestal

    “I point out that 70,000 French civilians were killed by “friendly” Allied bombing, and the hasbarat bleats:”
    90,000 French soldiers were killed and 200,000 wounded in 1940
    “So you’re attempting to equate those enemy soldiers killed in combat to the 70,000 French civilians killed by “friendly” Allied bombing while attempting to “liberate” them?”

    Actually, If you read my post [461] you’ll note 350,000+ French civilians died 1940-44.

    Let’s see. 350,000 French civilian dead less 70,000 killed by Allied air raids ‘[your figure] is net 280,000 Frenchman killed by Germans.

    France paid 400 million francs/day for the honor of being occupied and starved to death. And – not least – protected from Allied air assaults.

    What happened, Jimmy?

    How could those nasty Allies murder Frenchmen when the brave [excessively paid] Luftwaffe was there to protect them?

    Give us a hint.

    Were you born stupid, or did you take lessons?

    • Replies: @Art
    , @James Forrestal
  458. Robjil says:
    @James Forrestal

    The US/UK main battling tactic in WWII was Amalek fighting. It is an Old Testament way of fighting. Amalek fighting is attacking civilians instead of the fighters. France, Germany and Japan were fought in large part by Amalek fighting. Amalek fighting is genocide and is not warring. The UN should condemn Old Testament Amalek fighting.

    https://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0525.htm

    Deuteronomy. 25.19

    “19 Therefore it shall be, when the LORD thy God hath given thee rest from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven; thou shalt not forget. {P}”

  459. Art says:

    A new video on Tulsi Gabbard and her Washington Post coverage.

    Washington Post on Tulsi Gabbard Goes Nowhere

    • Agree: Iris
  460. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    OFF TOPIC

    Hear is some current truth to concern you Jews.

    US medical team removes Israel bullet from head of Palestinian infant

    American medical team succeeded in removing a bullet from head of 7-month-old Palestinian infant who was shot by Israeli fire while in the lap of her mother, Al-Wattan Voice reported on Friday.

    In a statement, the Palestinian ministry of health in Ramallah said that the American medical team ended a three-week ordeal of the baby girl who was in an intensive care unit since she was shot.

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20190615-us-medical-team-removes-israel-bullet-from-head-of-palestinian-infant/

    Think Peace — Do No harm — Art

    p.s. You are a Jew propagandist hiding Jew misdeeds of today.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  461. Incitatus says:
    @Art

    “OFF TOPIC”

    Posts that praise Hitler and vomit WW2 nonsense on this thread, an insult to Americans who fought/died, are on topic? How many of them have you warned, mahatma? Best guess? You’re silent on their rubbish because they hate Jews too. You’re a fraud.

    “Hear is some current truth to concern you Jews.”

    Terrible. Oft objected on UR. Check the archive. Not Jewish: that’s projection on your part.

    Want to know what I suggested three years ago [6 Sep 2016] on this forum?

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-obstacle-to-peace/#comment-1558317

    What solutions have you suggested? Take your time, mahatma.

    Any concern for Yemen? No, of course not. It’s OK if Saudis kill civilians/infants with our ordinance, our help. Saudis aren’t Jews!

    How many Palestinians do you know, Art? Be honest. Do you know one Palestinian? Do you know one Jew? One Saudi? One Yemeni?

    You like the issue because it allows you cover to do what you do best – race-bait. You suck-up to neo-Nazis who whine about victimhood with lunatic conspiracy theories and wish Hitler won. Why? They hate Jews too. You’re a fraud, mahatma.

    “You are a Jew propagandist hiding Jew misdeeds of today.”

    You’re a mirror-thin race baiter who willingly dishonors American WW2 vets with your ersatz moral veneer on wholesale race-baiting.

    “holohoax promotion”

    Responding to neo-Nazis with contemporary quotes of NSDAP principals promotes history directly from those responsible. Why do you protect them? Why do your UR friends ignore them? The record indicts the very people they worship. You turn a blind eye because they, like you, hate Jews. Am I wrong?

    “keeping hate alive – keeping guilt at the top of the agenda”

    Right. Don’t you really mean distrust of Nazi leadership inhibits your hate for Jews? You seem to be adept at keeping the latter alive.

    Suggestion or a more accurate sign-off:

    “Think Peace — Do No harm” —Race-Bait & Charm

    No need to thank me.

    • Replies: @Art
  462. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    Posts that praise Hitler and vomit WW2 nonsense on this thread, an insult to Americans who fought/died, are on topic?

    Golly man – you are the first Jew who has had the gonads to tell the huge HUMONGOUS lie – that you Jews cared about US deaths in WWII. That is truly outstanding work. I will put you in for a Hasbara Central prize.

    Did you notice, that the 1 year old Palestinian girl who took a Jew bullet in the head while she was in her mother’s lap – had to wait 2 weeks to get care from a US doctor. Hmm – the Jew hospitals would not treat her?

    You know that some punk Jew just like you, pulled the trigger. He had the same upbringing as you did – the same empathy that you have – and the same disregard for gentile life that you have – and the same victim mindset that you have.

    Your concern for US life in WWII is disingenuous BS! You are all about holohoax, holohoax, holohoax. Your job on UR is to sucker folks into WWII talk that keeps Jew victimization alive.

    Now you can go back to your OFF TOPIC drudgery.

    Think Peace — Do No harm — Art

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  463. Art says:

    The latest video from Tulsi 2020!

  464. Incitatus says:
    @Art

    Right on schedule. Mahatma the race-baiter strikes back:

    “you are the first Jew who has had the gonads to tell the huge HUMONGOUS lie – that you Jews cared about US deaths in WWII”

    “I will put you in for a Hasbara Central prize”

    “You know that some punk Jew just like you, pulled the trigger. He had the same upbringing as you did…”

    “You are all about holohoax, holohoax, holohoax.”

    “Your job on UR is to sucker folks into WWII talk that keeps Jew victimization alive.”

    Thanks Art.

    Proof golden your brain is diseased, addled with bigotry, Swiss cheese.

    You’re nothing but a tired old race-baiter. A dog humping a table-leg.

  465. @Incitatus

    Incitatus sez:

    “Dem ebil Germans FORCED da Allies to kill all dem Frenchies! Dey HAD NO CHOICE, durn it!!!”

    Well OK then. I’ll merely note (again) that you’re still completely failing to provide sources for your emotionally-based assertions.

    You’re obviously still engaged in these pathetic, nonsensical, failed attempts to insist that no one is allowed to view WW2 as an actual historical event — that we simply must see it as simplistic morality play that serves as the founding myth of Western societies in the current year.

    I see. Since the role of the so-called “Good War”/ Holocaustianity narrative in this context is clearly to serve as a template for associative conditioning, are you trying to claim that Tulsi Gabbard is LITERALLY HITLAH! Merely Mussolini? Or perhaps a current year Chamberlain?

    You really need a clearer narrative here, you know. You’re all over the place with these histrionic, incoherent attacks on Tulsi.

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