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The discussion, if one might even call it that, regarding the apparent President Donald Trump decision to withdraw at least some American soldiers from Syria has predictably developed along partisan, ideologically fueled lines. Trump has inevitably muddied the waters by engaging in his usual confusing explanations coupled with piles of invective heaped upon critics. The decision reportedly came after a telephone call with Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan, but what exactly was agreed upon and who else might have been present in the room to report back to the intelligence community remains uncertain. Trump clearly believed that he had obtained some assurances regarding limits to any proposed Turkish military action from Erdogan, who almost immediately launched air attacks followed by ground troop incursions against the former U.S. supported Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).

It should be observed that the Syrian incursion by the American military, which was initiated by President Barack Obama and his band of lady hawks during the so-called “Arab Spring” of 2011, was illegal from the gitgo. Syria did not threaten the United States, quite the contrary. Damascus had supported U.S. intelligence operations after 9/11 and it was Washington that soured the relationship beginning with the Syria Accountability Act of 2003, which later was followed by the Syrian War Crimes Accountability Act of 2015, both of which were, at least to a certain extent, driven by the interests of Israel.

When American soldiers first arrived in Syria the U.S. War Powers act was ignored, making the incursion illegal. Nor was there any mandate authorizing military intervention emanating from any supra-national agency like the United Nations. The excuse for the intervention was plausibly enough to destroy ISIS, but the reality was much more complex, with U.S. forces in addition seeking to limit Iranian and Russian presence in Syria while also bringing about regime change. The objectives were from the start unattainable as Iran and Russia were supporting the Syrian Army in doing most of the hard fighting against ISIS while the regime of President Bashar al-Assad was not threatened by a so-called democratic alternative which only existed in the minds of Samantha Powers and Susan Rice.

Unwilling to see large numbers of Americans coming home in caskets, the United States inevitably began to search for proxies to carry out the fighting on the ground and wound up willy-nilly arming, training and otherwise supporting terrorists, to include the al-Qaeda affiliate al-Nusra. The Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces eventually became the principal tool of U.S. military, but it must be observed that the Kurds in all likelihood had no illusions about the staying power of their American patrons. They were fighting Syrian forces as well as ISIS because they were seeking to carve out their own homeland of Kurdistan from the ruins of the Syrian state. Their expansion into northern Syria, aided by the U.S., was at the expense of the local population, which was overwhelmingly not Kurdish. Their occupation of that area was not reported honestly in the U.S. media, but other sources suggest that their behavior was often brutal.

So the lament about abandoning one’s Kurdish allies has a kernel of truth, but the Senator Lindsey Graham response, to include sanctioning Turkey, should be considered to be little more than a dangerous misstep that would lead to acquiring a new and more powerful enemy. And, of course, the argument in favor of leaving the Kurds to their fate found its most ridiculous expression from the mouth of Donald Trump himself, who, up until recently had praised the Kurds as friends who had “fought and died for us.” Trump is now observing that “they [the Kurds] didn’t help us in the Second World War, they didn’t help us with Normandy.” As President Trump did not serve his country in Vietnam due to alleged bone spurs and his father Fred likewise did not serve in the military, the comment is particularly ironic. Trump’s surname was changed from the original German Drumpf and if there were any Drumpfs present at Normandy they were undoubtedly on the German side.

Trump’s wild responses to criticism do indeed constitute the principal reason why a sound policy to, as he put it, to stop the “stupid, endless wars” should be raising so many flags. His telephone conversation with Erdogan almost immediately produced a warning to the Turks that the United States would “destroy” or even “obliterate the Turkish economy,” presumably if the creation of a buffer zone inside northern Syria would prove to be “off limits” in the opinion of the White House. Trump elaborated that “Turkey has committed to protecting civilians, protecting religious minorities, including Christians, and ensuring no humanitarian crisis takes place—and we will hold them to this commitment,” a pledge that will surely be impossible to honor as the first two days of the Turkish offensive killed over 100, including sixteen Kurdish militiamen.

And the Turks will indeed do what they can to eliminate the Kurdish military capability along its border with Syria, even if it includes creation of a demilitarized zone or perhaps something more than that. It is for them a vital national interest that is completely supported by the Turkish people. Whoever was advising Trump surely did not understand the Turkish mindset regarding the Kurdish threat, which they regard as existential.

By way of background, Turkey has been engaged in suppressing a bloody insurgency, fighting the Kurdish terrorist group the PKK for over thirty years. The Kurds on the Syrian side of the border, the SDF, are undeniably affiliated with the PKK on the Turkish side. The Turkish Army, which is one of the most powerful in NATO, will do whatever is necessary to crush them. Trump should have realized that before he started talking.

And then there is the fact that Turkey is a NATO partner in good standing. Article 5 of the NATO agreement stipulates that if an alliance member is threatened, other members must support it in its defense. Turkey has not made that claim, but it is completely plausible that it should do so.

Is there a way out? There have been some suggestions that the Kurds could make nice with the Damascus government and rely on the protection of the Syrian Army to deter the Turks, an option that they have already begun to exercise. Well maybe, but one has to recall that the Kurds have been trying to defeat that very government up until now and al-Assad may not want to play ball unless there are substantial Kurdish concessions. Or the Turks might be willing to escalate their own offensive to take on the inferior Syrian Army and the Kurds together. Erdogan is just crazy enough to do that.

Finally, there is one other important issue that should be observed. Donald Trump’s actual record on ending useless wars is not consistent with his actions. He has sent more soldiers to no good purpose in support of America’s longest war in Afghanistan, has special ops forces in numerous countries in Asia and Africa, has threatened regime change in Venezuela, continues to support Saudi Arabia and Israel’s bloody attacks on their neighbors and has exited to from treaties and agreements with Russia and Iran that made armed conflict less likely. And he has five thousand American soldiers sitting as hostages in Iraq, a country that the United States basically destroyed as a cohesive political entity and which is now experiencing a wave of rioting that has reportedly killed hundreds. Trump is also assassinating more foreigners using drones based mostly on profile targeting than all of his predecessors. These are not the actions of a president who seriously wants to end wars even if one does not consider the economic warfare that is currently taking place through the use of sanctions that is reportedly killing tens of thousands.

So should one take Donald Trump seriously when he says he wants to end the pointless wars? Perhaps not, but even giving him the benefit of the doubt, he should be judged by his actions, not by his words and, apart from the withdrawal of a handful of soldiers from the actual front lines in Syria, nothing has changed. It is quite possible that nothing will change.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected]

 
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  1. A123 says:

    And then there is the fact that Turkey is a NATO partner in good standing. Article 5 of the NATO agreement stipulates that if an alliance member is threatened, other members must support it in its defense. Turkey has not made that claim, but it is completely plausible that it should do so.

    There is no way that Turkey can plausibly claim support. The key word is “defense”. NATO members will not help the New Ottoman Empire “offensive”. And, both the EU and the U.S. are acting against it.

    the Kurds have been trying to defeat that very government up until now

    Erdogan is the #1 voice for regime change in Syria.

    The actual level of direct conflict between Kurds and Assad’s forces has been modest. The Kurds have been trying to keep ISIS as well as Turkish & Iranian proxies away from their civilians. Whether or not you believe that is a true explanation of Kurdish motives, Assad can easily sell it that way.

    Given that Erdogan is a threat to Assad and the Kurds, rapprochement is mutually profitable and thus likely to endure.
    _____

    The big unknown is, “How will Russia react?” Turkey started moving in Russia’s direction with the S300 purchase, but is now moving away by assaulting a Russian ally.

    The long term prospects for peace are still there. A return to the status quo ante. Russia remains as guarantor of the peace and all other foreign fighters and their proxies exit the nation.

    PEACE 😇

  2. The Turkish Army, which is one of the most powerful in NATO, will do whatever is necessary to crush them. Trump should have realized that before he started talking.

    IDK, Phil. I am not sure that he didn’t. My sense is that he has been pandering to the neocons in the hope of a compromise that would allow him to deliver enough of his campaign promises to permit his re-election. I think hiring Bolton was just such a move – thinking that keeping his enemies closer would permit him more control.

    Recently, he has expressed frustration with his staff and I speculate that he has come to realize that pandering to the jews is going to be a one-way street. He has given them a score of concessions, including Jerusalem and the Golan Heights. He hasn’t received anything in return, except for the onslaught of palace coups, one after the other, orchestrated by the very same zionist forces in both parties.

    My hypothesis is that the man, narcissistic as he is, has reached the end of his tether. Faced with the potential to not get re-elected, he has mounted a counteroffensive against them. He, rightly, believes that the people who got him elected are the only ones who can get him re-elected. So, his recent tweets are both an attempt to recapture us to his side, while at the same time slapping the zionists across their faces with a show of power, as he is won’t to do in business negotiations where he feels that he has been betrayed.

    I could be completely wrong as I try to pry into his mind.

    So should one take Donald Trump seriously when he says he wants to end the pointless wars? Perhaps not, but even giving him the benefit of the doubt, he should be judged by his actions, not by his words and, apart from the withdrawal of a handful of soldiers from the actual front lines in Syria, nothing has changed. It is quite possible that nothing will change.

    It serves us naught to take this pessimistic stance in the absence of a replacement candidate. I have always contended that the best way to use Trump is to support his ego. Let’s inundate him with praise for withdrawing from the Kurdish/Turkish quagmire. Sure, he hasn’t vacated Syria yet, however, he has no choice but to vacate or be evacuated. His ego will opt for the former.

  3. As President Trump did not serve his country in Vietnam due to alleged bone spurs and his father Fred likewise did not serve in the military, the comment is particularly ironic.

    What an irrelevant and quite unoriginal comment. I can see why Giraldi voted for St. Obama twice. That’s right, Giraldi voted for the food stamps President even after Libya.

    Things to remember about Giraldi:

    -He bashes Trump with a ferocity that he never did with the more bellicose Obama
    – He bashes Trump for his pre-Presidential life but never delved into Obama’s pre-political life, which involved bathhouses and mounds of coke.

    Screw this guy.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
    • Disagree: Cloak And Dagger
  4. It is deeper into the quagmire,
    Even though we appear to withdraw.
    Neocons poise to widen the gyre,
    Keep ‘Murka’s head in the bloody maw.

  5. Paw says:

    Turkey has deserted from NATO to the Kreml.
    But the UNZ = the Best. /by far/.

  6. Trump is also assassinating more foreigners using drones based mostly on profile targeting than all of his predecessors.
    These are not the actions of a president who seriously wants to end wars even if one does not consider the economic warfare that is currently taking place through the use of sanctions that is reportedly killing tens of thousands
    ————————————
    Mr. Giraldi,
    Could you please elaborate on the first point: the use of drones. Who and where?

    Secondly, economic warfare: are you referring to Iran or Venezuela? Could you elaborate?

  7. @A123

    NATO members will not help the New Ottoman Empire “offensive”.
    ————————————————————————
    Wow, Israeli is really terrified. What will they do when the U.S. decouples from the Middle East completely? It’s pretty clear that, short of running to Russia and fellating Putin, Bobo the Clown of Tel Aviv has no plan.
    Tic Toc.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  8. Biff says:

    It is quite possible that nothing will change.

    Agreed, but if the intent was to turn liberals into Warhawks, it worked…..

  9. Sorry to say this, but Mr Giraldi is now a little bit tired and sleepy.

  10. Anon[280] • Disclaimer says:

    The fact of the matter is that President Donald Trump is a Corrupt “Crypto Jew” in spite of the American people may think Trump is as he was chosen by the Elite to serve and protect Israel and churn profits for Elite owned and controlled Armaments industry in promoting wars against the Best interests of the citizens of United States of America.

  11. If Washington withdraws its military, spooks and mercenaries the Syrian Curds will go back to being Syrians. Syria, Iran, Russia and Turkey will negotiate the peace. The U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia and Turkey will have been defeated in their war against Assad. Syria, unlike Iraq and Libya will remain standing.

    • Agree: Ilyana_Rozumova
    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  12. Whitewolf says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    He, rightly, believes that the people who got him elected are the only ones who can get him re-elected.

    You mean the people chanting “build the wall” at his rallies? He hasn’t delivered on the main promises to them and isn’t likely to any time soon. The lack of talent on the left is the only thing that will get him re elected.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  13. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:

    Everyone loves to hate on Erdogan. I was hoping for a more nuanced view than [he] “is just crazy enough to do that.” Remember when George Galloway called him “a lion,” awestruck at his reaction to the Israeli murders of Turks on the boat to Gaza? Is it true that Turkey has made tremendous economic gains under his administration? He has much support, as shown by the [popular] squelching of attempted coup.

    I’ve just never understood why he facilitated the chaos on his border, harboured the White Helmets, probably murdered Serena Shim, etc. And now, what will he do with his jihadi proxy army? As far as his threats to release migrants to Europe, I have no sympathy for EU countries who’ve been part of the war on the ME. What goes around, comes around. Same for the Kurds.

  14. anon[219] • Disclaimer says:

    There have been some suggestions that the Kurds could make nice with the Damascus government and rely on the protection of the Syrian Army to deter the Turks, an option that they have already begun to exercise.

    The Kurds have caved. Plus our radical Islamic rebels are going over, with our equipment etc to the Ass man.

    Updated Oct. 14, 2019 6:48 pm ET. WSJ
    ISTANBUL—Syrian troops entered areas that have been outside their control for years on Monday, after a quickly forged pact between Kurdish forces and the Syrian government to confront a Turkish military campaign reshaped alliances in Syria.

    That pact transformed the Kurds, an erstwhile partner of the U.S. in the fight against Islamic State, into a force more closely aligned with Russia and Iran, as the U.S. began withdrawing its troops from northeastern Syria.

    Until recently, thousands of U.S.-backed fighters had trained at a military base in the town of Ain Eissa. After the Syrian military arrived on Monday morning, soldiers raised the tricolor Syrian flag in the town center.

    The US gets out of the way, and Assad, who won the Civil War, immediately settles with the Kurds and Nustra.

    So, it wasn’t many troops, but we had successfully prevented Assad from absorbing (voluntarily) two groups in the Civil War. Meaning we (US) alone was preventing settlement. The. deep state has thwarted Trump’s intentions to leave for 3 years.

  15. Ghali says:

    “Or the Turks might be willing to escalate their own offensive to take on the inferior Syrian Army and the Kurds together.” It is a stretch without careful analysis.
    Many people said the same about the world’s most cowardice army, the Israeli. There is an agreement between the parties and Erdogan will comply. The Kurds are the West-Israel proxy terrorists. They proved their usefulness many times.

  16. anon[219] • Disclaimer says:

    But in pursuing their aspirations for self-rule, Syria’s Kurds risked overreach and miscalculation. American officials have long made clear in meetings and public comments that U.S. military backing never amounted to an endorsement of Kurdish political ambitions.

    In December, U.S. envoy to Syria James Jeffrey likened the partnership with the SySo he rian Kurds to a “transactional relationship for a specific goal.”

    Trump got it basically right — time to leave and we never promised Kurds a Rose Garden.

    His bumbling ruling decrees via Twitter stem from the lack of loyal staff. His decisions are ignored or subverted when he goes through channels. So he announces it and works from there. This is the 3rd Time Trump has announced withdrawal from Syria. Although the neocon press and Hawkish politicians howled.

    Trump also implemented the Pivot to Asia (an Obama failure) by engaging China diplomatically through efforts at trade reform. Much more nuanced that fortifying bases.

    Its never pretty, but Trump tends to stubbornly pursue a less warlike agenda.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  17. The mideast is where everybody backstabs everybody … recalling the CIA used to deliver renditioned prisoners to Assad to be tortured along lines a bit more than ‘enhanced’ interrogations (karma could be a b***h.) The soup only gets thicker as the pot boils down. Remember those NATO nukes kept at Incirlik?

    https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2019/10/14/with-turkeys-invasion-of-syria-concerns-mount-over-nukes-at-incirlik/

    Why had NATO (the USA particularly) sat on its hands these past 3+ years? It’s not like no one was aware there could be a serious problem with 50 (or more) tactical nukes in the hands of the paranoid narcissist Erdogan:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2016/08/01/about-those-nato-nukes-kept-in-turkey/

    ^

  18. @A123

    “that is, the goods and services produced by the economy—rises faster than the money created, so there is no inflation, and rises faster than the debt created, so the country’s debt burden doesn’t increase.”
    “The long term prospects for peace are still there. A return to the status quo ante. Russia remains as guarantor of the peace and all other foreign fighters and their proxies exit the nation.”
    Spot on.
    Given cast-iron assurances re the PKK & it’s Syrian cousins that Nth Syria will cease to be a zone for organising attacks (or any kind of nefarious Kurdish behaviour) on Turkey, I think Erdogan would likely consider a withdrawal of his forces.

  19. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Agreed.
    More information on Trump & drone attacks would be useful & welcome.

    • Replies: @Art
  20. sally says:

    i think there are few unknowns between Russia, Turkey, Syria; the plan seems to be to get ISIS, SDF, the PYD/YPD without regard to who is supporting them. Unleash ISIS, even those in prisons so they can move against Assad to be destroyed ? Those trapped in Idlib can either commit suicide or wait for the executioner. I have no facts, but by observing that the sanctions warfare is directed at those who intend to destroy ISIS, SDF, PYD/YPD and Israelis and Iranians visiting in Syria I conclude Russia and Turkey have skunked the Pentagon (maybe Trump is also in on it?) .

    Russia and Syria have agreed to stand by while Turkey engages in some target practice at unwanted visitors in Syria? Invade Syria even North Western Iraq.. rid the world of pesky, trouble making, fake news head chopping face book and Twitter super stars, destroy all traces of Kurds, remove all non Syrian others threatening the Ottoman, Syrian Turf. Don’t look now, but Iran seems to be on the Turkey list of non Syrians ?. ..After the area is cleared Assad’s problem, will be, what if Turkey (Erdogan) refuses to return to Turkey, and that return to Turkey promise has probably been be guaranteed to Assad by Russia.

  21. I read a Russian statement somewhere last year [early 2018], in which they unequivocal said there would never be an autonomous Kurdish state. They [the Kurds] could stick to some of their customs, but legally and lawfully they would fall on Damascus’ rule/s.

  22. gotmituns says:

    “Beware of Foreign Entanglements” – George Washington.

  23. Trump’s foreign policy constitutes an egregious betrayal of his election platform which was to “stay neutral” on Israel/Palestine, withdraw remaining troops and avoid any further entanglements. He reneged on all pledges.

    The recent announcement that he was withdrawing troops from Syria was followed the next day by an announcement of 2,000 US troops being deployed to Saudi Arabia to protect that country from Iran. Say what?

    It was totally predictable five years ago that Turkey was in Israel’s gunsights, and as usual Israel tends to destroy others by proxy. They can sit back and savor Turkey destroying more of Syria, while US sanctions destroy more of Turkey.

    The waves of death and destruction that have hammered the Middle East for the last seventy years are all symptoms of one problem and that is the illegitimate “state of Israel”.

    • Replies: @sally
  24. Mr. Giraldi forgot to point out that widespread or systematic attacks against a civilian population or an identified part of a civilian population … things like threatening to “obliterate” a nation’s economy … are crimes against humanity in the very sense that was oulined in the protocol for the Nuremburg trials.

  25. Alfred says:

    Phillip Giraldi writes: “By way of background, Turkey has been engaged in suppressing a bloody insurgency, fighting the Kurdish terrorist group the PKK for over thirty years.”

    The “background” is rather disingenuous to say the least. The “bloody insurgency” launched by the PKK is a result of Turkish oppression of its Kurdish minority denying them cultural, linguistic and political rights and insisting on their assimilation to the point of resistance and rebellion. Turkey’s brutal response has resulted in the complete destruction of Kurdish villages and towns and the deaths of tens of thousands of Kurdish men, women and children in acts indistinguishable from war crimes. Moderate Kurdish political representatives in Turkey have been jailed or murdered. Of course Turkey considers the PKK “terrorists” since one man’s freedom fighters are another man’s terrorists, but there’s neither reason nor justification for Giraldi to do so.

  26. Most Americans seem obsessed with stupid wars. For example the vast majority of people in the UK see the Iraq War as a catastrophic mistake and despise Tony Blair, yet in the US most people still seem to see the Iraq War as a good thing. The mentality is far apart.

    Americans seem a very insecure people, projecting military power is all they really have. If America is not constantly embroiled in a war somewhere then most Americans feel they have nothing to be proud of. I would go as far to say that the military is the only real source of pride in America, it’s the only thing Americans feel they undeniably excel at.

    • Replies: @dimples
    , @Kolya Krassotkin
  27. There are no “stupid wars”, every slaughter of millions was long time in planning and was based on greed and racism of the “master” races vs. “subhumans”.
    USA corporation, can not and will not survive without WARS.
    Complete “economy” is a WAR machine, USA corporations has WEAPONIZED it ALL.
    It is nice to dream, even HollyWood supports and promotes it.
    Whiskey Rebellion me think was the Birthday of citizen USA and blessed it’s associates with representation by corrupt and greedy anointed by others rushing to become corrupt and greedy.
    Constructions ALWAYS follow destruction.

    • Replies: @onebornfree
  28. GMC says:

    Maybe the Kurds are Syria s Trojan Horse, since Isreal and the rest of their subserviant partners have probably mixed many proxies into northrn Syria in the past 4 years. I d sit and see Who actually engages the Turks before making any deal with the Kurds, if I was Assad. Of course Who knows how many deals are on the table by now.

  29. Anonymous[418] • Disclaimer says:

    …apart from the withdrawal of a handful of soldiers from the actual front lines in Syria, nothing has changed.

    Well, that withdrawal of a handful of soldiers changed quite a lot in Syria. I’m not going to criticise a US president for actually wanting to withdraw his soldiers out of an ME war for once.

  30. eah says:

    Trump has shown himself to be completely unreliable on every important issue; I do not see why it will be different this time — his desire for approval from the Establishment is apparently far stronger than any principles he may hold — you can see this in practically everything he does, perhaps most notably in his constant bleating about black and Hispanic unemployment — he simply can’t be trusted.

    • Replies: @Liza
    , @eah
  31. On the other hand Trump has not started any new wars (so far). He is also resisting the elite of Deep State (MIC) and the mdia, probably in his own weird way by making confusing statements keeping them off balance. No body knows we are all simply speculating. Time will tell.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  32. @WorkingClass

    Not really. The goal all along was not to “take” Syria so much as to destroy it and leave it in fragments. Mission accomplished! Syria, or at east large swathes of it has been reduced to rubble, its economy is gutted and its people are scattered to the winds. The US had no goals there to begin with and has just been acting in the service of its “great friend and ally” Israel. Your tax dollars at work.

    Syria, Iraq, Libya are now less of a threat to Israel than ever before so that is a kind of peace. Solitudenum facient, pacem appellant said Tacitus. They make desolation and call it peace.

  33. dimples says:
    @Europe natonalist

    I agree. Worship of the military is surely modern America’s most cringeworthy and repellent aspect. The war hero is the American equivalent of the medieval saint, and you can’t even blame the Jews for it. It’s clearly a whitey thing. Get a few bullets shot at you by some primitive and soon to be obliterated savages and you can live large on your war stories for the rest of your comfortably pensioned days. The sad thing is that there are no wars for the US military to fight these days except those they create themselves.

    America, an exceptionally immature, warlike and stupid nation. And they worship Jesus! Who of course will just laugh when he presses the button and sends them all into the lake of fire without a second thought.

  34. The problem is that the MIC has an army of lobbyists and the Pentagon has hundreds of millions to spend on propaganda . In 1970 Senator William Fulbright wrote the ” The Pentagon propaganda machine ” and described how it works , almost 50 years later the machine has only grown much larger and more powerful and consigned us to endless wars .

  35. Moi says:
    @Bragadocious

    Take a deep breath. Now relax.

  36. Sean says:

    What is the illegality in international relations? That is just rhetoric. The Assad family Syrians should be grateful that they, their Alawite tribe, and Sunni hirlings were not bombed out of power by the US. Assad the Idiot started a revolt by his attempts to save a little money by de subsidising basic commodities including agricultural fuel. He obviously thought the Syrian people loving being ruled by him His father knew better,

    Giraldi wants the Palestinians to be given a state (some would say they have already got an approximation to it Jordan), but does not care much about the Kurds, who have at least as good a claim and certainly don’t have any kind of homeland.

    Turkey is a NATO partner in good standing. Article 5 of the NATO agreement stipulates that if an alliance member is threatened, other members must support it in its defense. Turkey has not made that claim, but it is completely plausible that it should do so.

    It says nothing of the blank check kind, only if in the opinion of a Nato member Turkey had been attacked and not started the war, would the aforementioned Nato member be required to help. Turkey is not a European power, and is a source and conduit for mass immigration. Their internal actions have for decades been responsible for sending a flood of Kurds to the West. Neither Turkey or the Kurds are our friends. If Turkey wants to continue to interfere outside their own borders, they are on their own. If it looks like they are going to mobilise a flood of refugees to head for the West, then strong punitive measures must be used to force the Turks back inside their borders immediately.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Stan
  37. sally says:
    @Joe Palooka

    i did not hear Trump promise to stay neutral.. every campaign speaking platform was assisted by the veterans of foreign wars AND MILITARY BRASS. even the music was war time. What he promised was to make America Not the USA great again. The only rational reason to want to be the POTUS is power, and without military and enforceable rule of law there can be little power.

    I went to three Trump Campaign rallies at all three it was ignore my voice it speaks to the blind, instead watch who is on the stage with me. Everywhere it was military brass. The only factual reason to vote for Trump was that Trump’s success would block Hillaryeee. This time the only reason to vote for trump is that he has successfully used his power to hide his tax returns. That takes guts. But he also promised to force the USA to come clean on 9/11 which he has not done and he promised to stand the USA down from its foreign wars which he has not done.

    Trump never told us how deeply involved he was in Saudi ventures and how close he is to MBS. nor did he tell us that he planned to use the strength of the USA to threaten nations that had people who were in competition with Trump.. Like I have said over and over again, anyone who votes for Democrap or Reputaturd certifies him or her self as truly stupid. One could walk outside on their block a pick from their neighborhood a neighbor to elect POTUS and that neighbor person would do a better more honorable job than anyone since Roosevelt. and I am no fan of Roosevelt.

  38. @Cloak And Dagger

    Interesting, I’ve been mulling over this possibility recently and was thinking about it earlier as a potential outcome-based upon basic game theory.

    What I don’t understand is, if there be an alleged discreet hidden super-hand of power controlled by the Jewish elite, and Trump seemed to be doing their bidding (moving the Embassy), where are all the “compromising photos” and “Blasey Ford’s” for the Warren’s and Biden’s of the world? Certainly some damaging (and likely private) material, or “witnesses” from the past exist, against those who attack Trump? Certainly the Mossad and/or other hidden forces have such information, that could protect Trump. Here’s a guy with a (now) Jewish daughter and a Jewish son-in-law, doing positive things for Israel and the Jewish elite in the US/West, and yet, he has been subject to continual attacks, as have those around him, and now he is facing impeachment?

    I don’t see Israel getting it any better if Warren is elected (certainly not by her base, which is turning more toward a BDS worldview). It just makes me think their power is not as great as conspiracy theorists alleged, or in the alternative (perhaps likely) their “power” is superseded by an even greater hidden force of elites. If their power is as awesome and infiltrating as alleged, why isn’t he president for life at this point? Using the media, politics, blackmail, international banking, this guy could usher in Israel as the capital of the universe, but yet none of that is happening. He is betrayed at every corner and faces removal from office, disgrace (for actually being the removed, i.e. the other side actually “winning” against him), and probably the destruction of any chance Ivanka and Jared had of becoming the first couple, in the future.

    So perhaps as you offer, he’s going for broke and just doing whatever he wants or wanted to do in the beginning. Time will tell. Strange times indeed.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Daniel Rich
  39. @Contraviews

    🙄, Contraviews said: “He (Trump) is also resisting the elite of Deep State (MIC) and the mdia, probably in his own weird way by making confusing statements keeping them off balance.”

    No! Zionist Jews & Israel are keeping you and almost all of Amerika “off balance.”

    Refer to Jerusalem Post article (linked below) and you will distinguish “confusing statements” by Trump from the reality of mandatory ZUS endless ME wars since 9/11.

    https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Trump-swears-allegiance-to-Israel-as-he-decries-endless-Middle-East-wars-604506

  40. Everybody should be happy Uncle Sam is getting out of Syria. Look at the disasters the US created in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, etc. and all the money wasted which could have been better spent here at home.

    Much of what’s being said in the MSM has to do with the American narrative that Turkey and Syria are bad guys for the unspoken reason that they have opposed the zionist enterprise.

    What American national interest justified the occupation and dismemberment of Syria? Why should we support terrorist groups like the PPK against NATO member Turkey? Why should we ally with al-Qaeda affiliate HTS for israel’s benefit?

  41. Anonymous[648] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Good point about DJT needing to use Twitter to announce his decisions since they’d otherwise be thwarted or outright ignored going through normal channels. But, how can he actually be against these wars when they’re contrasted with his embarrassing servility toward Israel, which in actuality is an enemy state responsible for Lavon, Liberty, and 9/11, not to mention it’s theft of our technology that’s used against us by Israel’s intel tech companies for profit and communications espionage at the deepest levels of our government? The canard about other, overriding strategic interests doesn’t hold water since the $trillions wasted on these wars could have secured our economic and military interests a hundredfold through trade and cultural interaction. As much as I want to trust DJT and would stand with him and the deplorables at the barricades if necessary, I cannot overcome my repugnance at his support for Israel, knowing as he now must know that Israel did 9/11.

  42. @Cloak And Dagger

    Interestingly, Cloak And Dagger said: “. I have always contended that the best way to use Trump is to support his ego.”

    Hey C&D!

    Just remember the treatment President JFK got when he refused to support Israeli M.E. nuke egos. Doubtless, Trump does.

  43. The reason America was pushed into the mideast wars was the attack on the WTC 911 by Israel and traitors in the ZUS government and this attack was blamed on the Arabs and America was tricked into attacking Afghanistan and Iraq and Syria, all this for Israels goal of greater Israel, and all this at the cost of millions in lives and 7 trillion and counting in taxpayers money.

    To top off the deception, AL CIADA aka ISIS is a creation of the CIA and the Mossad and MI6, and these are the real terrorists!

    • Agree: Patrikios Stetsonis
  44. onebornfree says: • Website

    Contraviews says:“On the other hand Trump has not started any new wars (so far). “

    Only if you don’t consider his various ongoing trade sanctions/embargoes to be overt acts of war.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @WJ
  45. onebornfree says: • Website
    @Proud_Srbin

    Proud_Srbin says:“USA corporation, can not and will not survive without WARS. Complete “economy” is a WAR machine,”

    As Randolph Bourne observed: “War is the health of the state”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randolph_Bourne

    But its not just the US that is a war machine. Bourne’s statement equally applies to _all_ states everywhere, past present and future.

    If any state appears to not be making war on other countries at any particular time, its only because it is too busy making war on its own citizens [ eg taxes, drug laws, weapons/gun laws, religion laws, speech laws, environmental laws etc.etc. etc.], and has not yet created enough fake money via its central bank to enable it to debt-fund consistent overseas aggressions against others.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
    , @Proud_Srbin
  46. @onebornfree

    The Report From Iron Mountain says it all, the ZUS is to fight perpetual wars for the zionist agenda of a zionist NWO.

    This report came out in the 1960’s and can be googled.

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
  47. WJ says:
    @Bragadocious

    It is interesting. Trump has gotten fewer Americans killed than any president since Carter yet the rabid leftists still can’t concede that he is a better president than their favorite Democrat pets. BO tried an Afghan surge in which most of the US deaths occurred.

    • Replies: @Greg S.
    , @Bragadocious
  48. WJ says:
    @onebornfree

    How many American lives have been lost in the effort to make China less of a parasitic predatory trade partner?

  49. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    What will they do when the U.S. decouples from the Middle East completely?

    Believing the U.S. will “completely decouple” from the Middle East is akin to believing in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Moon Landings.
    https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2Fc8YC8htf5YQg0%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1&nofb=1

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  50. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    My hypothesis is that the man, narcissistic as he is, has reached the end of his tether. ”

    This is a truth ,eternal truth ,it applies to ironically both to a person and to a country . Just keep on giving and some more.

  51. melpol says:

    Wars by the US will never end because arms manufactures own Trump. Almost one half of the US budget goes for the security of the state, domestic and abroad. New weapon development would come to a halt if the US was not threatened. Fake news about China and Russia planning to attack the US keeps the arms industry humming. Over a million national security workers and their families would be devastated if Trump stopped fighting fake wars. God bless imagined threat of wars.

  52. The Kurdish-dominated Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) announced a deal with the Syrian government of president Bashar al-Assad to resist the ongoing Turkish invasion. Syrian forces have already moved into Kobane and Manbij. If Turkey continues with its push southwards into Syria, a war between the Turkish and Syrian forces seems imminent.

    As per the deal signed on October 13, the SDF will dissolve its Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria, also known as Rojava, and hand over the control of cities, such as Kobane and Manbij to the Syrian government. Talks between the SDF and the Syrian government were facilitated by the Russians at their Syrian base at Hmeimim in Latakia.

    Turkey and its ally, the Free Syrian Army – many of whose members were directly affiliated to Al Qaeda and other extremist groups – continue their offensive and atrocities. The FSA has reportedly already illegally executed 13 people. The victims include Hervin Khalaf, leader of the Future Syria Party, and her two drivers.Turkey launched ‘Operation Peace Spring’ on October 9. The operation has already led to the death of around 60 Kurdish and 18 Turkish fighters. It has already caused the displacement of more than 130,000 people.

    Is this just another cheap political stunt by the forces in D.C.(with both parties seemingly aligned)to distract us from all the corruption on both sides of the political isle which is close to being uncovered?
    https://peoplesdispatch.org/2019/10/14/syrian-democratic-forces-and-bashar-al-assad-government-join-hands-against-turkey/

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  53. How has the discussion predictably developed along partisan lines? Trump said he wants out of Syria. That united the war mongers in the house and senate because war means massive profits to the military industrial complex and congress works for them. Trump said something that affects the bottom line of the rich and they reacted predictably.

  54. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    The goal all along was not to “take” Syria so much as to destroy it and leave it in fragments…… acting in the service of… Israel.

    Just so.

  55. @Johnny Walker Read

    This has strengthened the possibility of the revival of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL or ISIS). There are around 10,000 such ISIS fighters currently lodged in prisons run by the SDF.

    And with this, “the war on terror” is guaranteed to go on, and on, and on..

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  56. @A123

    You can google and watch what Assad told the Kurds in a press conference. It will contradict part of your statement. The Kurds risked and lost. Great warriors, but weak diplomats and strategists.

  57. Let’s see what CIA actually does

    https://armswatch.com/

    There ya go.

  58. barr says:

    1BEIRUT, LEBANON (11:50 A.M.) – The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has taken over the U.S. military base in Manbij after entering the city last night.

    According to a military source in the Aleppo Governorate, the Syrian Arab Army has deployed several units to Manbij as they look to block any potential Turkish offensive to capture the city.

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    On Tuesday, the Anna News Agency reported from Manbij, as they showed the deployment of the Syrian Army and their eventual take over of the U.S. military base there.—AMN news .

    2 A stunning development in the key northern Syrian city of Manbij — the Pentagon has confirmed a planned handover to Russian military forces is underway amid a Turkish military assault on the region. This also hours after President Trump tweeted that Assad “wants naturally to protect the Kurds” and that the problem should be left to local powers.

    Late Monday the main US base in Manbij was filmed empty of US forces, and American convoys were also spotted hastily pulling out of the city as Syrian national forces entered, following Sunday’s historic deal between the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) and the Assad government. Newsweek reports the developments follows:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pentagon-confirms-manbij-handed-over-russia-us-forces-filmed-departing

    I think Russia has allowed Turkey to attack Syria to satisfy Turke’s main objective of rooting out the Kurd on the condition of returning the territory to Syria . It has given Kurd the bleak choice of oblivion or self preservation . America suffers from PTSD . The flashback of Saigon on the roof top reappeared again . It ran. Good a sensible job by Trump.

  59. Anonymous[835] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    started to click the Troll button
    decided Sean #36 not worth the calories

    • Replies: @Sean
  60. Greg S. says:
    @WJ

    The machinations people are making on this topic are truly stunning when it’s clear Trump is doing the right thing. Today are reports that US positions and bases in N. Syria have been turn keyed over the Assad and Russian forces. Trump IS Protecting the Kurds, just not with American blood, as he promised.

    The one thing Turkey has always wanted is a broken Syria so it can gobble up the remnants. Past US (and many current) leaders and Democrats were complicit in this by funneling cash and weapons to Syrian opposition, which directly led to the rise of Isis and deaths of thousands – can you say evil?

    I have hope that Trumps current actions will bring an end to thus war for good – Turkey was OK to beat up on some kurds but war with Russia is something else.

  61. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @OscarWildeLoveChild

    imho Jewish power keeps Trump on a perpetual short leash (Schiff is this month’s designee to ‘walk the dog’) until Iran is wrecked.

    [edit: renfro commented on Giraldi’s earlier thread reminding readers that Israel has a major interest in the Kurds, their territory, which is oil rich. Remember the proposals to divide Iraq into three …]

    Warren — BDS is one thing, but her agenda to tax >$50million — that’s the part people hear & cheer: Hooray! Soak the rich!
    The next thing she says is, “Use the money to pay for universal child care, universal kindergarten, increase pay for child care workers.”

    This gets cheers from millennials struggling to keep two people employed and kids cared for.

    But think about how drastically anti-family those proposals are.

    TOTALLY turn over the care of our children to the loving embrace of the federal government aka the Frankfurt school

    mumbo meets jumbo —
    https://www.cairn-int.info/article-E_CITE_006_0049–pathologies-of-authority-some-aspects-of.htm

    The combined synthesis of social theory and psychoanalysis thus allows resituating on new bases the Marxist optimism according to which the working class, due to its position in the relations of production, is disposed to adopt a point of view scientifically based on reality as well as promote legitimate forms of action.

    Knowledge of the forms of the becoming-adult of humanity conceived by Freud, in the form of a theory of passage through different stages that must result in an assumed genital sexuality, leads to the recognition of a working class that is believed to be less encumbered by typically bourgeois prejudices and perversities.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  62. @Johnny Walker Read

    AL CIADA aka ISIS is a creation of the CIA and the MOSSAD and MI6.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  63. Trump is Bibi’s Shabbos goy.

  64. Agent76 says:

    September 20, 2019 The Imperial Debris of War

    Just in case you hadn’t heard the good news, the last man from the president’s foreign policy “team” still standing, Trump whisperer Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, recently left National Security Advisor John Bolton in the dust.

    https://original.antiwar.com/stephanie_savell/2019/09/19/the-imperial-debris-of-war/

    June 27, 2018 Harvard Research Scholar Explains How America Created Al-Qaeda & The ISIS Terror Group

    It’s truly amazing how much the consciousness of the planet has changed within the past 5 years alone, and it’s not just happening within one topic, but in several different areas ranging from health to geopolitics and everything in-between.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49733.htm

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Counterinsurgency
  65. Liza says:
    @eah

    Yes, indeed. He is a loose cannon. Don’t those people who are still kissing the hem of Trump’s garments remember all that stuff he said during his campaign? Sure, we all know that politicians lie in order to get elected – but nothing on this level. Like the Scorpion and Frog poem, or at least his version of it (the Snake).

    • Agree: eah
  66. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Agent76

    It’s truly amazing how much the consciousness of the planet has changed within the past 5 years alone….

    So is this optimism on your part?

  67. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Trade wars, sanctions, embargoes are economic warfare.
    I’m not going to elaborate as teaching Kindergarten is not my forte.

  68. Oh, what a tangled web we leave when the CIA first seeks to deceive.

  69. @NoseytheDuke

    The goal was to topple Assad. Remember Obama? Assad must go? Assad and the Assad regime are still there. Where is Saddam Hussein? Where is Muammar Gaddafi? After seven years of war in Syria the victors are Syria, Iran and Russia. The losers are the U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia and Turkey. The real losers of course are the dead and the maimed. The widows and orphans. And the millions who have been displaced and have become refugees. All are victims of Imperial aggression. And the real winners of course are the war profiteers who have grown fatter and fatter since 9/11.

    • Replies: @A123
  70. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    What Trump wants to do and what he can do are two very different things. The MIC/Zionist rot in DC is way too deep and entrenched for any one man to tackle.

    Trump could make all his Schiffty problems go away by bombing Iran. Overnight, the man would be lauded as the president we need and that aging hack Pelosi would suddenly drop that phony impeachment hearing.

    Trump is finding out that when making foreign policy, the safest route to take is to first ask, “Is this good for Israel?”

  71. renfro says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Agree.

    And look what it has revealed……the Dems, the Zios, the msm and Trump’s Repubs all screaming how the US should stay in Syria

    I have no love for Trump…BUT….his Syria move has shown us how far into the Trump Derangement throes the Dems are.

    It reveals as nothing else he has done so far that we have a government OF THE PARTIES, BY THE PARTIES , FOR THE PARTIES…..not for the people.

    I hope people concentrate on that reveal.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX, Daniel Rich
  72. renfro says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    I have always contended that the best way to use Trump is to support his ego. Let’s inundate him with praise for withdrawing from the Kurdish/Turkish quagmire. Sure, he hasn’t vacated Syria yet, however, he has no choice but to vacate or be evacuated. His ego will opt for the former

    I think you are spot on there also.

  73. @DESERT FOX

    Exactly, with thousands of ISIS,ISIL(American/Israeli proxy forces)types now being freed due to Turkey’s incursions into Syria, these “rebels” will be free to re-group and fight another day. Hence the need for American forces to STAY deployed in the Area. This is nothing more than a distraction move by Trump, which will result in the opposite “intended” actions of American forces being withdrawn from Syria. This will also guarantee the “need” for a strong Soviet presence in Syria.

    America/Israel/Russia have always wanted the partitioning of Syria, the only point of contention between America/Israel and Russia was whether Assad was to be forced from power or would be allowed to remain President as a puppet of Putin and the Russians. Syria was to never remain a sovereign nation.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  74. Syrian Exposes Media Lies About Syria Withdrawal

    The US still hasn’t acknowledged the Armenian Massacre by the Turks. Why should it care about Kurds. US is the nation that said killing 500,000 kids in Iraq was worth it.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  75. renfro says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Syria, Iraq, Libya are now less of a threat to Israel than ever before so that is a kind of peace.

    Not really. All are still standing and not under US control. Iraq now leans even more toward Iran and Syria toward Russia………..and that outcome in these countries has made Israel’s goal of destroying Iran much harder and less likely .
    The curtailment of the Kurds, Israel’s long time friends and proxy , is another blow to Israel’s plot.

    It appears to me that Putin’s idea is to force everyone back into their own countries and borders….he may have shared that plan with Trump and that may have resulted in turning Turkey loose to do that job.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Art
    , @Houston 1992
  76. @WJ

    Right. But as Giraldi always points out, Trump almost attacked Venezuela. He said mean words and rattled sabres! As opposed to Obama, who said no mean words (’cause he upheld the “dignity of the office”) but sent the fighter jets into Libya and turned that country from a stable, secular regime into a human trafficking warzone. And also got an ambassador killed. Here are some of Giraldi’s gems from April 2011:

    Libya is a humanitarian mission

    it [the invasion] has no clearly stated objective except to protect Libyan civilians

    it is now clear that the rebels do not have any military organization to speak of and Gaddafi has the whip hand

    Nice analysis there, Mr. CIA lifer and Obama lickspittle. I can only assume Giraldi was part of the crack CIA team of Sovietologists who were utterly blindsided when the Soviet Union broke up. It’s amazing how much slack he’s given around here for his anti-Israel stuff. It’s like Teflon for him.

  77. @Priss Factor

    Agree, and the ZUS has killed millions in Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and Syria, for their zionist masters, the only lives the ZUS cares about is zionists.

  78. @NoseytheDuke

    The only question you failed to address is what was the true motives of Putin’s intervention into the whole mess. A few good points:

    As in Ukraine, Putin will stay in Syria until it no longer suits him. He has no long-term strategic goals beyond creating chaos and weakening the alliances of the free world wherever possible. This allows him to play the big man on the international stage, an essential element of his domestic appeal. 24/7 propaganda and Soviet nostalgia have turned Putin’s invasion into a domestic hit in Russia. In contrast, Russians have no interest in Syria or Assad, but who cares what they want? Unlike the leaders of Europe, the U.S., and other democratic countries, Putin doesn’t have to worry about how popular his foreign adventures are at home. There are no checks and balances in the Russian government, no free media to criticize him, and no popularity polls that matter more than ranks of well-armed riot police.

    https://www.newsweek.com/kasparov-putins-goal-syria-chaos-380620

    • Replies: @anon
    , @renfro
  79. Licks for Giraldi: Giraldi has been careless but not where he lists Trumps lies about ending ‘silly’ wars. from what Trump has actually done compared to what he says about ending America’s wars he is a liar of clear and complete proportions

  80. Sean says:
    @renfro

    Turkey’s invasion of Syria has been condemned by the United States, the European Union, Israel, Iran and some Arab states.

    • Replies: @renfro
  81. Sean says:
    @Anonymous

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10104926/turkey-invasion-of-syria-migrants-europe-fears/

    TURKEY’S hardline leader has threatened to send 3.6 million refugees to Europe if it brands his military offensive in Syria an invasion.

    President Recep Tayyip Erdogan vowed to open the gates to “millions” of Syrians over criticism of his deadly attacks on Kurdish targets.

  82. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bragadocious

    Why no link? Are you misquoting?

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  83. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    You’re quoting the Zionist anti-Russian Kasparov? LOLOL.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  84. SafeNow says:

    “the military…the only real source of pride…the only thing Americans feel they excel at”

    An insightful point. Politicians support the military and its deployments for economic reasons, but the support of the public might derive from “what else is there?” Examples of institutional and private-sector failure abound in the news over recent years, and every day. The Boeing Max. The hotel collapse. 250,000 deaths per year from medical negligence. Power shutoffs. Useless college. The dive boat. A relaxed performance standard. The demise of meritocracy and rationality. During Katrina, every agency except the Coast Guard went into gridlock. There are remaining islands of expertise, but the unraveling is contagious.

    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  85. Sean says:
    @Bragadocious

    International human rights is not a suicide pact.

    • Agree: SafeNow
  86. Anonymous[867] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bragadocious

    – [Giraldi] bashes Trump for his pre-Presidential life but never delved into Obama’s pre-political life, which involved bathhouses and mounds of coke.

    At least Obama served in the military. He was a corpse-man.

  87. renfro says:
    @Sean

    lol…..So What?

    • Replies: @Sean
  88. Phibbs says:

    The dirty, filthy hand of the Jew is all over America’s Mideast policy. Israel backs ISIS in Syria with weapons. The Israeli-Occupied Government in Washington D.C. has even protected ISIS in Syria at times. The Jew-owned media gives no credit to Iran and Russia for defeating Jew and American-supported terrorists inside Syria. Now the Jew-owned government is aching for war with Iran, which is not a threat to Gentile America.

    • Replies: @nsa
  89. A123 says:
    @WorkingClass

    The goal was to topple Assad. Remember Obama? Assad must go? Assad and the Assad regime are still there. … The losers are the U.S., Israel, Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

    Replacing Assad was an Globalist goal, heavily pushed by Erdogan. We also remember the failed presidency of Barak Hussein that never represented the citizens of the U.S. So it would be more precise to say that:
    — George Soros, Erdogan, Obama, Wahhabism, and the Globalists are losing.
    — Putin, Trump, Assad, and Populism are winning.

    The real test will be Putin getting all other foreign troops & proxies to leave. The Globalist agenda is to keep the fight between Iran (Shia) and Turkey (Sunni) going, when they both leave combatants in Syria. Hopefully, Putin will be able to fully rout the Globalists and move out both Turkish and Iranian agitators.

    PEACE 😇

  90. renfro says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Maybe you don’t know who the author of that article is….Garry Kasparov

    Kasparov might be great at chess but in Russia he was big fail as a politician….couldn’t get any votes on his campaign to make Russia like America. He went into a self-imposed exile in the West. claiming Putin ruined his political campaigning.
    Now everything Putin does infuses all Kasparov’s punditry

    Kasparow’s love for Bolton should clue you to what he is about.

    Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) · Twitter
    As I said about Bolton entering the Trump admin nearly 3 years ago, you may not agree with his views as much as I generally do, but he puts US interests first, not Trump’s. Can’t say same about Pompeo & the rest.
    31 mins ago

  91. renfro says:

    The short story on Syria, Turkey, USAISRAEL, Russia –

    Turkey-Syria offensive: Russia vows to prevent clashes with Assad forces
    BBC

    Takeaways

    THEN….

    ”When the US decided to equip and train Syrian Kurds, as well as some Arabs, to fight IS, they were aware of a potential problem, that their would-be Kurdish allies were regarded as terrorists by their Nato ally, Turkey. Washington turned a blind eye to a problem that could be kicked into the future. Now the future is here, and it has blown up.”

    NOW….

    ”On Sunday the Kurds announced a deal with the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, agreeing that its troops could advance into the zone that had not been controlled by Damascus since 2012, right up to the border with Turkey. That is a big victory for the regime. The troops moved quickly out of bases they maintained in the north-east. Assad loyalists dug out regime flags.
    It was a disastrous day for American Middle East policy. The alliance with the Kurds, and the security guarantee safeguarding their self-governing slice of Syria, gave the Americans a stake in the war’s endgame. It was also a way of pushing against the backers of the Assad regime: Russia and Iran. The departure of the Americans, and the advance of the Syrian army, are victories for them too.
    European governments, rattled in the way that happens when the problems of the Middle East come knocking at their doors, are calling on Turkey to stop the offensive. Some Nato members can see a nightmare scenario unfolding, with Syria, backed by Russian power, potentially facing off against Turkey, a fellow Nato member. The Russians say they are in regular contact with Turkey. But in a fluid, violent theatre of war. the chances for misperception, mistakes and escalation are always present.

    Perhaps what has happened in the last week simplifies the endgame of the Syrian war. Two major players, the Americans and the Kurds, look to be out of the picture. And President Assad, along with his allies from Russia and Iran, continue to solidify their victory in Syria’s catastrophic war.”

    WHAT IS BEING LEFT OUT OF THE CURRENT COMBING THRU THE ASHES OF THE SYRIAN WAR IS THE FACT SAUDI STARTED THE WHOLE FUCKING SYRIAN WAR.

    Anyone who doesnt know that can ask me how.

  92. Rurik says:

    The discussion, if one might even call it that, regarding the apparent President Donald Trump decision to withdraw at least some American soldiers from Syria has predictably developed along partisan, ideologically fueled lines.

    Not too sure where this partisan line is, Dr. G.

    It looks like they’re screeching from both sides of the isle.

    https://www.deseret.com/2019/10/7/20903288/president-donald-trump-syria-isis-turkey-kurds-pelosi-mcconnell-romney-islamic-state

    Both powerful Republican Liz Cheney and Hillary called the pull out “sickening”.

    While Republican Senator Rand Paul applauds the decision, Tulsi Gabbard condemns it.

    As for ‘ideological’, we all know that ideologically, the vast majority of all congress-critters (99+%) from both sides of the isle, are motivated by the ideology of doing “what’s good for the Jew$”

    NATO agreement stipulates that if an alliance member is threatened, other members must support it in its defense. Turkey has not made that claim, but it is completely plausible that it should do so.

    Are you joking, Dr. G?

    Hasn’t Turkey been engaged in waging an aggressive war on Syria these last few years?

    Wouldn’t Turkey demanding military aid from NATO, (for a “threat” from the Kurds or Syria), amount to the US demanding NATO aid for a “threat” from Iran?

    IOW, it’s Turkey that has been the murderous aggressor, and the Kurds and Syrians their victims. Not to mention that Turkey’s military could make mince-meat out of the Kurdish “threat” in a New York minute.

    So it seems to me that the only thing holding Turkey back, is orders from the ZUSA and Russia. Russia is certainly a large part of this equation, IMHO.

    did not understand the Turkish mindset regarding the Kurdish threat, which they regard as existential.

    ‘Existential’?

    Would a limited autonomy Kurdish state on Turkey’s southern border, perhaps incorporating a small swath of Turkey, be the end of Turkey’s existence?

    When Nazi Germany invaded Poland, the world demanded that Germany sacrifice some of its territory as recompense for its aggressive military imperialism.

    If I were in a position to do so, I’d hand Syria a slice of Israel’s and Saudi Arabia’s and Turkey’s territory – as a punishment for their depraved attacks on an innocent and unthreatening Syria.

    Definitely the Hatay province, which arguably belongs to Syria anyways.

    I’m sure Turkey would call that an existential! calamity, but I’d tell them ‘karma’s a bitch’.

    Finally, there is one other important issue that should be observed. Donald Trump’s actual record on ending useless wars is not consistent with his actions. He has sent more soldiers to no good purpose in support of America’s longest war in Afghanistan, has special ops forces in numerous countries in Asia and Africa, has threatened regime change in Venezuela, continues to support Saudi Arabia and Israel’s bloody attacks on their neighbors and has exited to from treaties and agreements with Russia and Iran that made armed conflict less likely. And he has five thousand American soldiers sitting as hostages in Iraq, a country that the United States basically destroyed as a cohesive political entity and which is now experiencing a wave of rioting that has reportedly killed hundreds. Trump is also assassinating more foreigners using drones based mostly on profile targeting than all of his predecessors. These are not the actions of a president who seriously wants to end wars …

    I remain you most loyal fan, Dr. G. But I confess this sounds to me like you think the situation above started on the day of Trump’s inauguration.

    He inherited those things by the former ZUS regimes.

    He has tried over and over again to disengage, only to be dragged back by the screeching from the members of his own party. Not to mention the ((media)).

    There are a lot of reasons to condemn the actions of Trump. The Golan Heights, for instance. But it seem glaringly obvious to me at least, that Trump is not ideologically committed to Eternal Wars.

    As you put it, he threatened regime change in Venezuela.

    He wanted to have talks with the Taliban, (and the whole deepstate and their ((media)) screeched)

    He “continues to support Saudi Arabia” but as Pat Buchannan points out.. “The Saudis got the message when the U.S., in response to a missile and drone strike from Iran or Iranian-backed militias, which shut down half of Riyadh’s oil production, did nothing.

    Said Washington, this is between Saudi Arabia and Iran.”

    And he has five thousand American soldiers sitting as hostages in Iraq, a country that the United States basically destroyed as a cohesive political entity and which is now experiencing a wave of rioting that has reportedly killed hundreds

    You really do make it sound like all that is his fault.

    I love your work Dr. G. And consider you one of the very best, most honorable and most courageous writers out there.

    But I confess, (like so many others!), it seems like to me that you have an irrational, personal hatred for Donald Trump that colors your perspective.

    IMHO.

    I didn’t have time to write this response well, have to go. Hope it’s not too off base..

  93. Art says:
    @animalogic

    More information on Trump & drone attacks would be useful & welcome.

    There is a gigantic problem in America. It makes us dysfunctional. Certain news cannot get to the American people.

    Everyone in the know gets it – do not go to the NY Times with anti-Israel news. Do NOT buck the AIPAC agenda – period. The darkest element of the ADL will be at your door within minutes. The US government will soon follow.

    It is obvious – when it comes to Jew matters, US government employees fear for their jobs, if not their lives. Same for the MSM.

  94. @Bragadocious

    The Soviet Union never broke up, it just re-branded itself.

    • Replies: @FatPanda
  95. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:

    US President Donald Trump has lambasted American broadcaster ABC News for airing a video from Knob Creek Gun Range in the town of West Point, Kentucky, claiming that the network used footage from the facility to depict a Turkish attack on Kurdish civilians in northern Syria. Trump called the mistake “a big scandal” and “a real disgrace”.

    “A big scandal at @ABC News. They got caught using really gruesome FAKE footage of the Turks bombing in Syria. A real disgrace”, the president wrote on Twitter early Tuesday morning.

    AMN news

  96. Sean says:
    @renfro

    The Crimean Peninsula was annexed by the Russian Federation in February–March 2014. Despite all the protests about Crimea, the Donbass invasion using asymmetric tactics with Putin out outright denying responsability, Ukraine is a vital interest for Putin, and he would have been willing to confront America and Nato there because it is his home ground and advantage. But Russia is powerful enough to; Putin only went into Syria after Obama decided not to overthrow Assad. No one particularly cares about Syria and neither do they care about the Kurds (despite them having as good a case as the Palestinians to be given a state) and that is why jumped up Turkey can get away with invading Syria and attacking Kurds, just like they INVADED Cyprus.

    This whole thing is probably a a storm in a teacup, but if Turkey gets into trouble they know, because they were already told very clearly over Cyprus, that if they play Lone Ranger, Nato does not have their back. Doing something Israel is not happy about and Turkey threatening to get their own nuclear weapons because Israel has them is not very good diplomacy from Turkey’s point of view. It is begining to experience delusions of its own importance.

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @anon
  97. Art says:
    @renfro

    It appears to me that Putin’s idea is to force everyone back into their own countries and borders….he may have shared that plan with Trump and that may have resulted in turning Turkey loose to do that job.

    Here is a very good video – Putin being interviewed. They asked him hard questions. He came across as being very rational.

    Maybe between Trump and Putin things can work out in Syria?

  98. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    People! The internet is there for you to verify/debunk any statement you question. Running a website is a lot of work, why don’t you guys collect the information you demand from Mr. Unz, and share with us?
    Or are you looking at others to supply you with ready-made opinions?

  99. @anon

    Yeah, I’m misquoting, you utter imbecile.

  100. Ok.

    Maybe you should explain how that comment’s relevant to anything.

  101. @onebornfree

    Thanks for the link about Mr.Bourne and you correct about his statement applying to ALL states.
    They are more like progressive, merciful and humanitarian slave owners.
    Be free

  102. anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    WHAT IS BEING LEFT OUT OF THE CURRENT COMBING THRU THE ASHES OF THE SYRIAN WAR IS THE FACT SAUDI STARTED THE WHOLE FUCKING SYRIAN WAR.

    How?

    Did Hillary become an honorary member of the Saudi royal family, or just prostitute the US State Dept to make sure the guns were delivered on time?

  103. anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:

    I wonder why the “high IQ” westerners have never deemed it fit to study their undeniable mass psychopathy.

    If they were indeed as smart as claimed, they would begin to admit it, and given the claim to their innate highly civilised humanitarian inclinations *cough*, they would come to the conclusion that this world needs less of their cursed kind.

    Since that is not going to happen, I guess nature has its way…

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sperm-count-dropping-in-western-world/

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  104. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    How?

    • Replies: @renfro
  105. c matt says:
    @Bragadocious

    Obama’s pre-political life

    To be fair, I don’t know if Obama ever HAD a pre-political life. He seems to be a creation ex publicae.

  106. @Rev. Spooner

    The point he makes is extremely vague. No specificity. None. Yet 10’s of thousands are dead. Ok, how about some evidence.
    Why don’t you go back to kindergarten, Rev?

  107. renfro says:
    @Sean

    It is begining to experience delusions of its own importance.

    I would say Israel is beginning to experience the fallacy of its own importance.

    What you clearly don’t get is that…..kowtowing to the US as the ME superpower and enforcer is declining.

    The rules are out the window, the ways of wars have changed, alliances are temporary, power is fluid, hyenas can eat elephants .

    Israel will not be able to navigate this.

    • Replies: @Sean
  108. @paranoid goy

    He makes a claim. Where is the journalistic integrity to back it up?

  109. @SafeNow

    The support of the public for the military derives from constant and pervasive propaganda particularly through movies and TV shows , David Sirota calls it the “Military Entertainment
    Complex”.
    Zero Hedge : ” Documents expose how Hollywood promotes war on behalf of the Pentagon , CIA & NSA “.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  110. @Johnny Walker Read

    I was making a rhetorical point. I don’t think the U.S. can decouple from the Middle East.
    I do, however, think that Trump wants value for blood and treasure.

    Long-term, America simply lacks the financial strength to continue to project power. The MIC costs the U.S. a tremendous amount of money. Budget to the MIC will continue to be slashed over time. The Deep State in the U.S. will contract simply due to financial realities.
    Israel will be less and less of a priority.
    The next financial crisis is already beginning. The U.S. has a massive debt ratio relative to the Money Supply. It is now 5:1. Good luck with that. It will be needed.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  111. Z-man says:
    @Whitewolf

    Yes, lack of talent and totall inane radical left wing proposals whiped up by the AOC wing and swallowed by all the candidates ‘hook, line and stinker‘.

  112. @OscarWildeLoveChild

    After JFK’s assassination, every successive president is/was shown a film clip of JFK’s head exploding from an angle nobody’s ever seen.

    It doesn’t matter what party they’re from; they’ll tow TPTB’s line. All of them.

    US Foreign Policy = Occupied Palestine Foreign Policy.

    That’s all that’s wrong with US foreign policies in a nutshell.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  113. @Bragadocious

    Whether he or his father served is irrelevant. Carter was in the Naval Academy, Reagan and Bush 43 were in the reserves. Clinton had none and neither did Roosevelt, Hoover, Coolidge, Harding, or Wilson.
    What is telling, is the “alleged bone spurs”, and “Trump’s surname was changed from the original German Drumpf”.
    An allegation is an unproven accusation. What Giraldi is stating, is that Trump’s physician falsified records. You think old man Trump sent Donnie for a megadollar military academy education so he could avoid the military?
    As for Drumpf, I was acquainted with a couple of Schmidts who became Smith, a Bryjolfson who became Byron, a Pachkowski who became Berry and, no one says Roosevelt’s name was changed from Rosenfeld. The snide commentary doesn’t help.
    I have said all along, that there is a lot not to like about Trump, but let’s keep it in the realm of reality. Whether he wants to end the stupid wars or not, he will never be allowed to, as long as Giraldi’s old employer is in business and making up non-existent bullshit “threats to American interests”, whatever they are.

  114. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    “Doing something Israel is not happy about and Turkey threatening to get their own nuclear weapons because Israel has them is not very good diplomacy from Turkey’s point of view”

    Israel is known to puff and bluff . It is grandiose polemic or rabid canine barking. It was not exposed by the west . But the west now knows it ,thanks to Hizbullah

  115. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    It is difficult to understand nato secretary Stultemberg , it must be his thick swedish accent . I suppose he does not like turkish music ……

    • Replies: @Z-man
  116. @anon

    Getting women to work had nothing to do with their ‘liberation.’

    Even though my mom had her own [private] school, my dad’s salary was enough to provide for all 5 of us, go on annual holidays abroad and put three kids through college, loan-free.

    To TPTB, it’s better to tax 2 people instead of 1.

    To them it’s just a number game, like the ‘Torches of Freedom’ gambit, all spiel, smoke and mirrors, to fool us gullible idiots into believing we do have a say…

    We should really start to use our guns and rifles to free the country and rid it of the rot that’s smothering it.

    Oh, look, another Cartra$$hian selfie butt shot on Instagram!!!!!!

  117. @Johnny Walker Read

    The Easter Bunny isn’t real?

    Dang!

    I thought the youngster was raped by Epstain.

    Hence his egg-shaped penis….

  118. barr says:

    It’s very old habit.Very much ingrained . It is also generational . Increasingly and suddenly religious also as the feckless toothless Evangelicals are rooting for 1 second fame .

    But here is a short chronology–

    1 Plans for mayhem in Syria have been on the imperial table since the 1950s (Operation Straggle).

    2 US general Wesley Clark gave the game away years ago when he revealed US intentions in the Middle East after 9/11: seven countries were to be invaded

    3 Seymour Hersh gave the game away too in his 2007 New Yorker article: “The Redirection”. In this piece he revealed how the US were hooking up once again with the Saudi/Sunni fundamentalists in and around Syria.
    4 France’s ex-foreign minister Roland Dumas also gave the game away when he revealed that the British State (a definite CIA asset) was preparing for a war on Syria two years before the start of the Syrian Holocaust in 2011.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/31/homage-to-syria-a/

    “This operation [in Syria],” said the former French foreign minister Roland Dumas in June, “goes way back. It was prepared, pre-conceived and planned.”

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2013/09/11/the-biggest-lie/

    As we recently learned from former French Foreign Minister Dumas, it was also about that time, that actors in the United Kingdom began planning the subversion of Syria with the help of “rebels”’ (Christof Lehmann, Interview with Route Magazine)

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/12/my-moneys-on-putin/

    Between 2006 to 2010, the US spent 12 million dollars in order to support and instigate demonstrations and propaganda against the Syrian government. 6,3 million dollars was funneled to the Movement for Justice and Development, a Syrian dissident organization based in London. The Movement operated the Barada satellite channel

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/09/17/the-dirty-politics-behind-the-syrian-conflict/

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
  119. @Johnny Walker Read

    Quote: “America/Israel/Russia have always wanted the partitioning of Syria…”

    Reply: Kindly allow me to correct your statement.

    “America/Israel have always wanted the partitioning of Syria…”

    Russia has a wet entrance into the Med via Syria.

    Perhaps you’ve dozed off a bit over the past few years, but Russia has been destroying and killing the FUKZUIS ‘war’ machine goons in Syria [aka the takfiri terrorist].

    They’re assisting in getting the country back [on its feet] as a whole again.

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  120. renfro says:
    @anon

    I’ll keep it short. You can find the beginnings back in the 2012 coverage.

    In 2012 Saudi sent Saudi Prince Bandar to Syria to be in charge of helping Syrian rebels bring down Assad, an ally of Riyadh’s biggest regional rival Iran.
    They were originally created, set up and armed and financed by Saudi.
    The Saudis were then joined by Israel and Qatari and finally by the US under Obama.

    A new twist appeared in the Saudi rebels war with Assad when ISI appeared and joined the fight.
    This scared Saudi shitless as they thought this ISI version of ALQ might be a threat to them and lead to an invasion of Saudi as ALQ always saw it as a’ westernerized’ Saudi.
    Everyone doubled down on both fighting Assad and fighting ISI…..which was a FUBAR if there ever was one.

    Then enter the proxies, the Kurds, the PPK terrorist group all fighting for their own agendas within and under cover of the original war on Assad.

    What could possibility go wrong in all this?…LOL

    Then enter Russia. Which gave some pause to the US in how far they wanted to go to throw Assad out for Saudi and Israel and open a gateway to get Iran.
    So now we are headed to the ending of the Saud and others Syrian adventure which is probably best expressed by the fable of the fox and his shadow.

    “A fox arose in the morning and saw his large shadow cast in the morning sun and said ” I will have a camel for lunch today’. The fox hunted all day for the camel without success. As he paused in the afternoon setting sun he saw his shadow was much smaller and said…”A mouse will do after all.”

    • Replies: @anon
  121. @anonymous

    Quote: “…sperm-count-dropping-in-western-world..”

    Reply: Yet here you are…

  122. anonymous[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel Rich

    In 1992, Alexandra Zapruder began to collect diaries written by children during the Holocaust. These diaries speak eloquently of both hope and despair.

    [Alexandra said:] “Anne Frank’s diary was the first diary that was published. And her voice was so powerful that it captured the voices of all the children and all the people who had been killed. That’s the way it’s framed. And that by reading her diary and sort of taking her into our hearts, we could redeem her life. . . .” [US Holocaust Memorial Museum https://www.ushmm.org/confront-antisemitism/antisemitism-podcast/alexandra-zapruder ]

    Alexandra Zapruder is the author of Twenty-Six Seconds: A Personal History of the Zapruder Film.
    Her grandfather was Abraham Zapruder, who took a twenty-six second home movie of President John F. Kennedy’s assassination[1] — now known as the Zapruder film.(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_Zapruder ]

  123. Here is another article found at American Herald Tribune where Phil Giraldi also often has articles posted.

    The US Isn’t Serious about Leaving Syria at All -David Macilwain
    https://ahtribune.com/world/north-africa-south-west-asia/syria-crisis/3575-the-us-isnt-serious.html

    From a strategic point of view it is very noteworthy to observe that Kurdish troops are fully positioned east of the Euphrates River. The Kurds are allies of Israel and a vital proxy implemented to fracture Syria along the lines envisioned for Greater Israel (Oded Yinon Plan).

    It is perceived that Russia is an ally of Syria. However, Putin has not prevented Kurdish troops from establishing themselves firmly within Syrian territory.

    Israel along with their diaspora will never relent until their abomination of “Eretz Yisrael” is achieved. It’s not an accident that the ISIS flag is marked “All Jew.”

  124. @NoseytheDuke

    Washingtonsblog : ” Balkanizing the Middle East – The real goal of America and Israel : shatter Iraq and Syria into many small pieces ”
    Thomas Harrington : ” One of the prime goals of every empire is to foment ongoing internecine conflict in the territories whose resources and/or strategic outposts they covet ”
    Sanchez : ” Plan B is to Balkanize …Israel is endorsing its plan B for Syria just when its enemies are making it clear that its plan A (Assad must go) is not happening anytime soon .”

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @Robjil
  125. Voltara says:

    The US watching while Syria and Turkey start shooting at each other is something new. For decades the US has run towards conflict in the region

  126. renfro says:

    Former AIPAC officials launch political action committee to direct funds to pro-Israel candidates
    https://www.jweekly.com/2019/03/19/former-aipac-officials-launch-political-action-committee-to-direct-funds-to-pro-israel-candidates/

    Pro-Israel America launched Tuesday endorsing 27 candidates — 14 Democrats and 13 Republicans. All have long histories of working with the American Israel Public Affairs Committee to advance the brand of pro-Israel legislation it favors. Its endorsements on its website praise the named lawmakers for their actions favoring the legislative agenda closely identified with the lobby: funding for Israel’s defense, sanctions on Iran and its regional proxies, and bills that seek to counter the boycott Israel movement.

    They include Sens. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and Chris Coons, D-Del.; Rep. Steny Hoyer, D-Md., the majority leader in the U.S. House of Representatives, and Rep. Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., the minority leader; Rep. Eliot Engel, D-N.Y., the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, that committee’s ranking Republican.

    here are all of them listed….make sure you don’t vote for one:

    https://proisraelamerica.org/endorsements-2020/

    • Agree: Z-man
  127. anon[123] • Disclaimer says:
    @barr

    Blaming Saudi or Turkey or UAE has possibly some validity but as far as far the effect of the independent move by any of them is concerned , it has less than zero effect on Syria on its own.

    It is like a hypothetical scenario where Florida and Alabama are independent countries . Rest of America is splintered into 50 different states and Canada is trying to get rid of Cuban regime for 50 years and only in last 5 years Florida and Alabama have joined the scheme under dubious circumstances of pressure bribery and blackmail.

  128. Art says:

    Isn’t “regime change wars” a mealy-mouthed term? Isn’t it time to call a spade a spade?

    Why are we using that benign term, for something so destructive of America’s future?

    Que bono – who benefits from these wars – isn’t it just one small but powerful segment of America – AIPAC.

    Isn’t it time to call these wars by the honest truthful term – “AIPAC Wars?”

    These wars and crushing national sanctions against others, all come from AIPAC.

    Our elected congressmen and senators are almost all AIPAC such-ups. Let’s put it in their face with a factual term.

    AIPAC Wars

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @A123
    , @ChuckOrloski
  129. anon[415] • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Israel was more powerful and also more favorite of the west across ideological drive until 2003
    It is not a normal country . Somewhere that guilt and remorse of stealing and killing have left a mark on its psyche . It doesn’t know how to settle and be normal

    It doesn’t know the meaning of the power, advantage or gain . The paranoia drives to more dangerous world of fear and insecurity . It can’t rest . Even if it is left alone, he talks to itself and bangs it head against wall . Recent election is the manifestation of more madness . It’s begging jaunt to Russia and screaming through US media show how badly weakened the country is.

    The countries that bow to Israel – UK, USA, Egypt, Saudi are finding themselves also badly weakened ,

    A seed was planted in 2006 in Lebanon . That tree is growing taller and establishing roots , Israel will be a shrub hiding in the shadow of that tree in a few years time.
    Soviet and Russia were both almost destroyed by Jews . Now they look for the Russian shadow to hide .

  130. Sean says:
    @renfro

    A pack of lions can bring down an adult elephant at night when they have the advantage, but they are careful not to choose a really big strong one. Russia is fighting in the Ukraine its traditional heartland and what H. Mackinder called the Heartland of the World Island. A victory in Syria that only came because Obama chose to not crush Assad with a couple of days of air raids is hardly evidence of the Empire falling.

    The real meaning of Trump is the facing of the threat from China, and if the neocons want to play games in the Middle East so what? There is a fight coming with China and it is a match for the West led by giant Bull Elephant America, Backward ME shitholes all together could not take down America in a thousand years.

    • Troll: ChuckOrloski, renfro
  131. Republic says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    It is very nice to see a video from RT in Arabic showing the very rapid evacuation of a US base in Syria:

    Hope to see many more in the future

  132. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    And what were the Kurds in Iraq called?
    Didn’t Saddam use some type of gas on them and that’s why we were siding with them? Who told about the incubator babies, maybe some other terrorist group?

  133. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    Mmmm, okay, you must have meant something like ‘organized shooting’ when you said, “SAUDI STARTED THE WHOLE FUCKING SYRIAN WAR.” Sorry I bit on false advertising.

    As you see from ‘barr’ at #119 above, your starting point is months, years, even decades too late. For a fact (I’ve met some of the Syrians who met with Robert Ford in Damascus, now here and still lobbying for regime-change), the US was meddling, encouraging, prompting the anti-Assadists well before the 2011 demonstrations.

    • Replies: @renfro
  134. laughing.

    We shall see.

  135. jsinton says:

    It’s their back yard, let them figure out where the property line goes. Just get out. Don’t argue with that.

  136. @Daniel Rich

    Putin is not the nice guy we have been told he is. He is in Syria for a reason, and that is not simply because he wants Syria returned to al-Assad. Syria is only one cog in the wheel. World wide Communism marches on, if you hadn’t noticed.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=19&v=4sKxkY0Tz5s

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
    , @Zumbuddi
  137. Z-man says:
    @Anon

    Stoltenberg-Globalist tool and a moron.

    • Replies: @HEREDOT
  138. Trump confuses tweeting with taking action. How many times has he mentioned ‘birthright citizenship’ and then done nothing about it?

    A: Every time.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @A123
  139. rapid evacuation of a US base in Syria

    LOL. My favourite rapid US evacuation was the CIA flying off the roof of the Saigon Embassy while the Viet Kong were busting in through the door and running up the stairs.

  140. A123 says:
    @Art

    … who benefits from these wars – isn’t it just one small but powerful segment of America – AIPAC. … Isn’t it time to call these wars by the honest truthful term – “AIPAC Wars?”

    Except the main beneficiary of these wars is George Soros and his anti-Semitic Globalist movement.

    Soros intentionally orchestrated the ultra-weak, time limited JCPOA treaty to create a nuclear arms race among Iran, SA, Turkey, and possibly other MENA nations. That way he and his buddies with MIC investments could profit by selling weapons to all sides.

    So let’s put in everyone’s face with a factual term…

    SOROS Wars

    PEACE 😇

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @Art
  141. HEREDOT says:
    @Z-man

    Stoltenberg jewish whore is a bastard.

  142. A123 says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    Trump confuses tweeting with taking action. How many times has he mentioned ‘birthright citizenship’ and then done nothing about it?

    A: Every time.

    If Trump drives too hard, too early and the case arrives at the Supreme Court while it is split 5-4 in favor of ‘birthright citizenship’ … Is that a win? Or, a loss?

    There is a huge difference between ‘failed action’ and ‘successful action’.

    Given the proven hostility of the deep state establishment, it makes a great deal of sense to lay groundwork now (via tweets), but only launch the correct constitutional action once the courts are prepared to support it.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  143. With class, Philip Giraldi amused me👍 by his article’s mere title, “Trump wants to end the “Stupid Wars?”

    Oh yea! Thanks, Phil…, & please continue with offering dashes of intelligent, dissident, & unflappable humor. Haha. For example, “Trump’s surname was changed from the original German Drumpf and if there were any Drumpfs at Normandy, they were undoubtedly on the German side.” 😂

    (Zigh) The insatiable global tag team, M.I.C.🤑 and The Land of Bilk & Money😈, want “Big Time” and more stupidly unnecessary & immoral wars. (Zigh) One sure path to a 2nd term for President Bonespur is for him to get off the “low energy” Turkey/Syria skirmish, & get on with real war against Iran…, for Israel.

    Thanks, Phil! Fyi, I think Senator Lindsey Graham wants to get Bolton back in The Blue & White House, and sanction Camp Mar a Lago.

    P.S.: For all commenters assembled here, linked below is Stephen Colbert’s satiric covering of President Drumpf’s having followed Israel’s yonder (fallen) 🌟, and establishing a US Space Force Command! To that, Colbert quipped, “Trump can not join it because of his galactic bonespur.”😂

  144. renfro says:
    @anon

    Well…would you like to go baaaaaccccckkkk all the way to the failed US CIA coup attempt in Syria in 1957 ?

    If so, do it yourself….I don’t feel like typing out a whole history book just for you to jerk off on about how bad the US is..

    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
  145. Robjil says:
    @9/11 Inside job

    Seven Nations to Destroy for the nine eleven false flag. Wesley Clark mentioned the seven – Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Somalia, Syria, Lebanon, and Iran.

    Seven Nations to Destroy for Yahweh’s Israel – Deut. 7:1-2 – Tanakh/OT.

    Iraq 2003 invaded Purim – shattered in pieces

    Libya 2011 invaded Purim – shattered in pieces

    How four other nations on the list that were destroyed.

    Somalia –

    Since 2006 it has been a mess with Israel/US Al-Qaeda running the show.

    Bizarre article about US/Israel terrorists “worried” about the environment.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4310799/al-shabab-plastic-ban-somalia-al-qaeda/

    Somalia-based militant group Al-Shabab has reportedly announced a ban on the use of single-use plastic bags in territories under its control.

    The Al-Qaeda-affiliated organization, which has been blamed for thousands of deaths since its inception in 2006, dubbed plastic a “serious threat to the well-being of both humans and animals,” the BBC reported, citing Al-Shabab’s radio station Radio Andalus.

    It even mentions that Osama Bin Laden, the puppet of Israel/US, was “worried” about the environment too. It makes one wonder if this Climate Change thing and Imperialism terror are connected.

    Bin Laden wrote that Americans needed to save Obama from corporate and other nefarious influences to empower him to “save humanity from the harmful gases that threaten its destiny.”

    He added that the world would be better off fighting climate change than waging what he claimed was a war against Islam.

    Sudan

    Divided in two in 2011. Israel/US is pushing for more divisions.

    https://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article64102

    Asked about his demand for protection during his meeting with Putin, al-Bashir said we wanted to highlight “the big U.S. pressure and conspiracy” on Sudan in Darfur crisis and the huge pressure exerted on his government to separate the South Sudan.

    “Now we have information that the American quest is to divide the Sudan into five countries If we do not find protection and security. America took the world leadership and devastated the Arab world. (See) what happened in Afghanistan, what happened in Iraq, what happened in Syria, what happened in Yemen and what happened in Sudan,” said al-Bashir.

    Lebanon

    Invaded by Israel in the summer of 2006. It made a mess out of Lebanon. Israel had a lot of trouble fighting off Hezbollah. This is the reason that Israel fears going into Lebanon again. After this adventure, Golems like US and its friends are the go to for Israel’s war adventures.

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20180712-remembering-israels-2006-war-on-lebanon/

    Initially, both Israel and Hezbollah claimed victory in the war, with Nasrallah declaring that Hezbollah had achieved a “divine, historic and strategic victory”. Some international observers saw the fact that Hezbollah had survived the Israeli assault, despite the asymmetrical power balance, as a PR victory for the group. According to Reuters, the Lebanese government estimated direct war damage at $2.8 billion, and lost output and income for 2006 at $2.2 billion. The economy also shrank five per cent, with tourism effectively halted.

    Six of the seven were messed up, destroyed. It leaves only Iran left. Iran is in the “news” everyday for this reason.

    • Replies: @ivan
  146. anonymous[403] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump is flawed, ok then, but we had Clinton as the alternative. She would have been ten times worse so what choice did the American people have? He’s rolling up the Obama-Clinton project in Syria which was a huge atrocity. Can you imagine the bloodbath that would have ensued had the US backed jihadi cannon fodder actually succeeded in overthrowing Assad? It’s not a one man show and Trump has to go along with much of what has been taking place. Much of this has been imposed upon the American people as well as on Trump.
    The brave Turks have been fighting a thirty year war against the “terrorist” Kurdish PKK. Why so long? Maybe the Turks oppress them? There has to be a reason the Kurds have been resisting for so long. But yet the mighty Turks are going to defeat the Kurds of Syria even as they can’t defeat the ones living in their own country? Perhaps they’ll take on the inferior Syrian army at the same time. After all, they’re a big NATO ally with lots of weapons to dump on lightly armed foes. Reality is they haven’t fought anyone in a hundred years so who knows how well they’d do.
    Quit calling Afghanistan a “war”. It’s an occupation with anti-guerilla operations going on. Apparently they don’t like being occupied so they fight on.
    Trump’s name is Trump, not Drumpf. Or do we now refer to people by the family name used a hundred years ago, or why not five hundred years ago?

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  147. Mark Hunter says: • Website

    Excerpt from
    “Trump Mistake: Allowing Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria”
    by Joel Skousen (there is no direct link to it but it is/was on his website World Affairs Brief):

    This week in a telephone conversation with Turkish dictator Recep Erdogan he [President Trump] assented to Erdogan’s demand from over a year ago to let them enter Turkey and establish a buffer zone where Turkey can resettle the hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees that have burdened Turkey since the beginning of the US-created terror attacks on Syria.  But as part of that strategy, and without emphasizing that to Trump, Erdogan intends to drive out or destroy the Syrian Kurds which occupy northern Syria.  Erdogan calls them terrorists because the US-backed YPG Kurds are affiliated with the homegrown Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) which represents about 20% of the Turkish population, and which has been fighting for independence from Turkey.  So while the Turkish Foreign Minister plays lip service to Syrian sovereignty, Turkey has already begun the invasion and occupation of northern Syria.  While Trump claims he is fulfilling a campaign promise to remove troops from Syria, this isn’t really a pullout at all since only two observation posts in the path of the Turkish invasion are pulling out.  There are thousands of other US troops elsewhere in Syria protecting US-backed terrorist rebels.

  148. @Johnny Walker Read

    H.E. Mr. Putin has clearly stated it’s up to the Syrian population to choose who leads them, not him.

    Tartus has a port Russia needs and uses.

    Khmeimim Air Base is also needed and used by the Russian AF.

    These are military strategic assets and used to counter balance the FUKZUS ‘war’ machine’s bases dotted around the ME region. Of course, those you don’t mention.

    The Red Menace.

    I get it.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  149. No president actually controls the government, least of all Trump. The Deep State controls the government. Trump is a an interloper. Why does one have to remind the author of this elementary fact? The threat to destroy the economy of Turkey was made by Stephen Israel Mnuchin. Trump had to make noises as if it was his “decision” when in fact he had nothing to do with it. What Trump wants to do, and what he can do, are entirely different things. And anyone who has anything to do with Americans knows what happened to all the previous allies. Mnuchin has clued in those Turks who may have had illusions.

    • Agree: NoseytheDuke
  150. Art says:
    @A123

    Except the main beneficiary of these wars is George Soros and his anti-Semitic Globalist movement.

    Gee — never heard of ASPAC?????

    • Replies: @A123
  151. anon[123] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    very bad US is indeed . It continues to sabotage ,cast evil eye,try to strangle ,and continue to punish Cuba . That long history is really long punctuated by half hearted Obama attempt .
    Once empire decided a project,it becomes , NASA , Present Danger , PNAC or NED . The project goes on losing the aim . The project goes on because the vested interest ,employees,pensioner,glory seeking men, arm merchant, politicians and expatriate find means to rake up profit and launder dishonest living into honest lifestyle . Name is changed when it suits the project . Aim is not lost. It becomes the final destination . It never stops energegizing the dishonest, looter,profit seekers, and opportunists . Often the brains that gather under the flag are not that intelligent or ideologically certain.
    Money and corruption drive them.

  152. @Agent76

    It’s truly amazing how much the consciousness of the planet has changed within the past 5 years alone, and it’s not just happening within one topic, but in several different areas ranging from health to geopolitics and everything in-between.

    Going broke happens slowly at first, then quickly. The Western cities are going broke, as are those in the Third World. Nothing else changes peoples minds like having their basic income reduced or eliminated.

    All the promises (including self-governmement and freedom and equality) have turned out to be lies, smoke. Computers, which were supposed to be a seamless adjunct to human existence, a source of education and information, and a liberation from the bad parts of part of reality, have turned into (poor but cheap) entertainment, gossip, a drug substitute, and a propaganda source. The result is shock and horror, sometimes followed by violent psychosis [1] (e.g. antifa).

    Once again, I recommend “Marat/Sade”

    (1967). It gives you a feel for what a revolution is like once the revolution gets going. Note the movie’s final scene, which almost breaks the “fourth wall” convention. It was made during our last revolution, and the director wanted to record the spirit of what he had seen.

    Counterinsurgency

    Counterinusurgency

    1] https://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/guide/what-is-psychosis

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  153. nsa says:
    @Phibbs

    “jew and Amelikan supported terrorists inside Syria”
    They call them Joohadis for a reason.

  154. @Art

    I like it, very catchy, original, Art said: “AIPAC Wars.”

    Oh yea, Art, thanks, and a “spade is a spade” when one manages to get the hell out of the AIPAC shade.

    Unfortunately tonight, millions of process estranged Amerikan Democrat & GOP voters are now “beamed up” to an AIPAC-approved strange & hostile telescreen’s DebateLand.🥴

    (Zigh) Across aisle, including a possible Beaming Bloomberg entry,🤔, “winnable” 2020 presidential nomination contestants shall pick & choose, finagle & sell, an either/or USrael foreign policy posture, as regrettably follows:
    1.) The Zio-Democrat War to end the deplorable Trump’s stupid call to end all Amerika’s endless Wars just for the paltry good of gradually achieving Greater Israel’s unending endgame.🥴 or,
    2.) The Zio-GOP’s War to end all Democrat Party hopefuls’ stupid call to end all US endless wars just because a lefty AIPAC-Branch put an Israel Labor Party “bug in their ear” about having lowly dead-ender ‘Merikan workers fucking pay for it.

    Thanks again, Art, and “Good night America.”*

    * Phil Giraldi inhabits Sinatra’s City That Never Sleeps.

  155. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    The next financial crisis is already beginning. The U.S. has a massive debt ratio relative to the Money Supply. It is now 5:1. Good luck with that. It will be needed.

    Agree.

    And the financial debt must be augmented by degradation of physical infrastructure (especially in cities and city support infrastructure) and the degradation of human capital by importation of low IQ populations and effective destruction of education. And the capital misallocation that continues today.

    The world will be surprised at what happens when the US power projection ends, as global trade will end with it.

    Counterinsurgency

  156. @anonymous

    The brave Turks have been fighting a thirty year war against the “terrorist” Kurdish PKK. Why so long? Maybe the Turks oppress them? There has to be a reason the Kurds have been resisting for so long.

    Turkish birth rate low (lower in cities than in hinterlands), Kurdish birth rate high. Kurds replace Turks in a few decades. Kurds don’t follow Turkish cultural norms, nor Turks follow Kurdish. Kurds don’t want to wait a few decades, want power _now_ (c.f. Black Power and Whiteness in USA). Kurds use destructive commando raides (“terrorism”) to get power now. Turks don’t like that, respond with same.

    Long term: demography wins barring very large change.

    Please correct parts of this that are wrong. I’m not following this conflict closely.

    Counterinsurgency

  157. geokat62 says:

    Latest TruNews godcast, E. Michael Jones: The Deception Facing the Church by Christian Zionism

    YT Description:

    Today on TruNews, Dr. E. Michael Jones joins us to talk about the influence of modern Christian Zionism upon the American Church, and how that has led to a dramatic radicalization of US foreign policy in favor of one nation, Israel.

    Prof. Jones takes the deluded xian Zionists to task, calling them “useful idiots.” My favourite passage starts @ 18:58:

    .. which means you got a lot of Christians who don’t understand the gospel. Because there are plenty of Christians out there who are Christian Zionists. It’s a simple fact of life. I think it can be traced to Jewish influence in our culture… Jewish influence over the publishing industry, for example. How did the Scofield Bible end up being published by Oxford University Press? Because it’s a great scholarly work? No! Because of people like Mr. Untermeyer pulled strings. This is the way this happened. It’s the biggest issue facing American politics, right now. The role that Zionism is playing right now, in corrupting the government of the United States, in diverting American resources into a quagmire in the Middle East, which doesn’t serve the interests of the American people at all… and is all done in the name of Israel.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
    , @Republic
  158. @geokat62

    Watched trunews.com tonight and agree with Dr. Jones.

  159. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    LOL. You’re the one with the hard-on to dump it all on the Saudis, IN ALL CAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sorry to call your bluff, NOT.

  160. @Counterinsurgency

    I’m kind of having a mental barrier with this now.
    There is a guy in Vancouver who predicted the 2008 financial crisis, Jensen I believe (he wrote to the Bank of Canada and a list of people in 2006). He argues that the fundamentals are even worse now due to the failure to finance these foreign adventures and other factors (expenditures on domestic expenses not matching tax income, etc.).

    I haven’t even taken the time to consider the knock on effects. Mentally, I’ve been more focused on having to sit through the screaming match that is going to occur over who is to blame and the lying that will go on with respect to needing to move to a sound money system but having bankers et al try to argue for a rollover into a new currency. It is going to be ugly, I can feel it. It will provide an opportunity for some serious structural change and constitutional amendments. A whole host of reforms are open when you have a debt induced currency collapse. I just know it could be really ugly and I’ve been dreading thinking through how this will play out. I keep thinking that I never expected to live in a time like this; I think back to being a teenager during the Reagan years and, despite the Cold War-nuclear war scenario hanging over our heads, it seemed a much more optimistic time.
    I am not optimistic. I’m very worried.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  161. IllyaK says:

    Chump will do as is his wont: fold like the numbskull Jew-controlled POS assclown he is.

  162. geokat62 says:

  163. ivan says:
    @Robjil

    Somalia under a failing Siad Barre regime was going to the dogs with various warlords cannibalising each other. Then the Americans were told in the flush of victory in the Gulf in 1991, that they should just kick the door in to save the dumb Muslims. It is not the fault of the late senior Bush that Somalia is compounded of that specimen of humanity that emerges like clockwork when African tribalism is married to Islamic fanaticism (but is there any other kind?) . The Americans were minding their own business, but were told that it was the humanitarian thing (and furthermore quite cheap to boot) to do at little cost to themselves to save Muslim chillun’.

    Afghanistan was no better : The idiot, the younger George Bush instead of bombing the the hell out of Al-Queda and leaving was instead misled by mystagogues of various hues, including his own self into sinking lives and treasure in a vain attempt to civilise the Afghans.

    The truth is the further you keep away from Muslims, the better it is for your health and sanity, notwithstanding the parallel machinations of various neocohens, for Islam is a pernicious religion that breeds insanity, intolerance and bloodshed all by itself.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @ploni almoni
  164. E. Michael Jones: a very wise man. He believes in free speech and is hated by Jews who, of course, label him an ‘anti-semite’. I would argue they are ‘truth averse’ fanatical maniacs.
    He makes a good case that ‘Christian Zionism’ is a heresy. I don’t believe he uses that term BUT I do.
    It’s just another bubbling that is bursting.
    What will they do besides scream and throw tantrums? Is it time for another false flag 911 type event?
    What the media never really exposed was how Syria, and every Middle East country that has been attacked by the DeepStateZio monster, has seen the oldest Christian communities on the planet under attack. Strange pattern. The rise of Islamic fundamentalism, initiated by the British alliance with the Wahabi’s and the Saud Family and furthered by the CIA/Mossad in Afghanistan, has corresponded with the destruction and diasporas of the world’s oldest Christian communites.
    Somehow, Europe has ended up with a bunch of Muslims when these Christians would have fit into their societies much better.
    I think that none of this just ‘happened’. I strongly suspect that if we were to kick over some rocks we would find the usual suspects: the Khazar/Black Nobility Alliance.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX, Z-man
  165. @renfro

    How?????????????????????????????????????????
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    I do think it was Mc Cain.
    Concerning historically lazy Saudis I am entirely confident that they were only taking care of payroll.
    ( I am not entirely confident but there is a possibility that CIA did channel some profits from Afghanistan poppy fields for this noble cause.

    • Replies: @renfro
  166. @Counterinsurgency

    Quote: “The world will be surprised at what happens when the US power projection ends, as global trade will end with it.”

    Reply: Given the vast sums of money set aside to implement China’s 1 belt 1 road project, [IMO] the global dollar trade will turn into a trickle over time, but the global trade will not nosedive along with it.

    Too much a stake for the multinationals [not necessary a good thing, but alas].

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  167. Stan says:
    @Sean

    Hasbarats are repugnant.

    • Replies: @Sean
  168. Wally says:
    @Bragadocious

    Has Giraldi ever stated which current candidate is his preference vs. Trump?

    I thought not.

    Trump over the alternatives any day.

  169. Damascus had supported U.S. intelligence operations after 9/11 and it was Washington that soured the relationship beginning with the Syria Accountability Act of 2003, which later was followed by the Syrian War Crimes Accountability Act of 2015, both of which were, at least to a certain extent, driven by the interests of Israel.

    It’s very challenging to come up with any foreign policy initiatives that do not serve Zionist Israel’s interests, first and foremost. Israeli interests have defined American foreign policy objectives in the ME for much of the post-WWII era. Not at Israel’s behest, but on Israel’s instructions and demands via pro-Zionist lobbies and the infestation of the Administration with Israel First officials, Israeli citizens and spies. Add to that the Israel First MSM.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski, Robjil
  170. anon[123] • Disclaimer says:
    @ivan

    Is it methamphetamine instead of regular fentanyl ? Anyway, this logic and perverted emotion make sense to you. Unfortunately it will reinforce your decision to switch . Business will sure be coming back from China to rural America.

  171. renfro says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Concerning historically lazy Saudis I am entirely confident that they were only taking care of payroll.

    The Saudis were just the money…..there were no Saudi fighters in Syria.

  172. I voted for Trump. But maybe the people who said Trump has no core values were right all along?

  173. @A123

    I respectfully disagree on this particular matter. There is no US law bestowing birthright citizenship. All that would change is recognition of what the law really says.

    Trump waiting to win another 4 (still a gamble) AND for RBG’s animatronics to fizzle out AND for her replacement to not be another skunk like Roberts is foolish.

    There is no underwater 38th-dimensional quantum chess being played here, and we still have no wall.

    • Replies: @A123
  174. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:

    Oops, I posted this under another writer. (Small wonder I got no answer.) Since then, someone else remarked that at the end of WWI this land (northern Syria) was taken from Turkey. So this is a long grievance, with deep sense of entitlement.

    Rurik wrote, “….the Americans (Obama regime), created ISIS- with the intention that they use Libya’s stolen arms caches to hack and slaughter their way across Syria…”

    Yes, and that’s why I’m skeptical of dumping of Erdogan. How eager was he for this conflict? Did the Obama CIA promise him N. Syria for his complicity? Doubtless assuring that Assad would fall quickly! Or maybe they dangled EU membership, if he joined the team.


    Maybe Phil can enlighten us:

    We know that Robert Ford, US Embassador to Syria, was meeting privately with Syrian “civil society” activists before the 2011 demonstrations.
    —Was Erdogan/Turkey also involved in infiltrating, inflaming those anti-Assad elements?
    —How did Turkey involvement begin?
    —Was the CIA actively involved in Syria before the fall of Libya?

    Thanks.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  175. “I voted for Trump. But maybe the people who said Trump has no core values were right all along?”

    There was no question that the president was going to be a situational leader.

  176. jsigur says:

    C’mon guys.
    Using prior military service as some sort of litmus test to the right to critique involvement and opinion sharing today plays to an audience mentality that encourages blind patriotism.
    There really are no necessary wars these days as they are all being fought for the banker elite which holds no loyalty to country though it plays on ppl’s ignorance to use such loyalties for propaganda purposes.
    There is no justification for US troops to be all over the world as a banker mercenary force and this site acknowledges 911 was an Israeli- internationalist false flag which removes all justifications for the meddling in Israeli neighbor’s internal affairs.
    Tolerating this to get air time with magazines that lie for power is encouraging this negative behavior for personal advantage in a country and world striving to control the most minute areas of our lives.
    Going along to get along only brings the eternal boot down of the forehead [email protected]!

    The fact that none of these bickering forces are targeting Israel who always was the catalyst for the divisions there, is a huge clue that we and Israel are the problem causers primarily. Of course we need false flags to excite the population to support the fake war on terror within the US and Europe (as well as justify the reverse colonialism going on). Jews for hundreds of years have counted on stupid goyim to do the fighting but now that Israel is a supposed stand alone nation, that should be harder to accomplish but apparently total corporate media control keeps the truth hidden from 85% of the public.

  177. @Daniel Rich

    Reply: Given the vast sums of money set aside to implement China’s 1 belt 1 road project, [IMO] the global dollar trade will turn into a trickle over time, but the global trade will not nosedive along with it.

    I actually hadn’t thought of that. Now that you point it out, of course the dollar trade will decrease. Negative interest rates are, in a way, saying that nobody wants US Dollars anymore, and trades that are not in US Dollars are being actively sought. The decrease will happen a bit before the USN becomes ineffective. And that will be hard on the multi-nationals, but I can’t say I have much sympathy. They were firmly behind the move of Western manufacturing to East Asia – what did they think would happen?
    But I do disagree over the assertion that global trade will remain about as it is.
    The New Silk Road. Interesting topic.

    Well, first of all it’s a reasonable thing for the PRC to do. Historically, the Silk Road has paid off for China, at least in terms of precious metals, and being dependent on a single transportation mode for one’s raw materials is strategically undesirable. It’s a good move. It’s also an attempt to realize McKinder’s proposed making the World Island into a unified state[1].

    But a couple of points:

    a) New Silk Road is much more expensive than sea transport [2]. If sea lanes are cut off, China’s raw materials costs increase by several times.
    b) New Silk Road recapitulates the interaction of European empires of the 1800s through 1900s with ethnicities along the Silk Road. The Europeans were resented and eventually ejected. The Chinese are having similar problems.
    China has loaned money to various nations which have then spent that money on immediate consumption and are attempting to repudiate the debt. The Chinese (who have no compunctions about debt repudiation through currency devaluation) are apparently taking over completion of the Silk Road facilities for which the natives can no longer pay (having spent the money on other things). Local rulers are saying that this makes the Chinese foreign invaders (on a very low level so far). Just like the Europeans.
    Chinese society also does not mix well with either Islamic or African tribal society, yet the Silk Road crosses both cultural territories.
    So far as I know, the Chinese takeover of the Panama Canal since the US evacuation has gone well. Last I heard, a few years back, Panama had started teaching Chinese in its public schools. Chinese operations in South and Meso America are increasing, however, and I know little about how they are going.

    The nice thing about policed sea lanes is that shippers don’t have to worry much about the natives. Piracy is and has been a problem, but so far not a serious one. New Silk Road goes overland, and that has (historically) always led to security problems with the locals, whoever the locals may be.

    So: Let’s suppose that the USN were to become ineffective. Only the part of the Silk Road guarded by the Russian Federation would remain secure. The rest would be subject to local raids and extortion from the local government. Note that raw materials costs would increase drastically for everybody (because of less shipping), so local governments and bandits would have motives for confiscating goods.

    This would be especially the case in Africa, which is largely dependent on food imports. That conflict could become severe, as China is increasingly dependent on Africa for raw materials (as is the rest of the world).

    In other words, sole reliance on the New Silk Road (should that ever be necessary) would be expensive in terms of shipping and in terms of security / warfare costs. China’s bellicose policy is, IMHO, counterproductive. China should be positioning itself to police the sea lanes cooperatively but reluctantly with a declining USN, gradually assuming the mantle of worldwide protection of the sea lanes that China needs so badly. Current efforts to be able to interdict the sea lanes are not in the PRC’s interest, as the PRC needs these sea lanes open. It’s sort of like developing a hyperbomb to make the Sun go nova. Under what circumstances would you use such a device? Under what circumstances would China want to cease shipping by sea?

    So, what’s likely to happen? The USN will decline because it needs recapitalization due to age and a changing threat, and the US is instead devoting its income to debt repayment and immediate social stability expenditures. The PRC, which has never been a naval power, will still attempt to keep global trade alive. When that fails, the PRC will trade more with the Russian Federation It will also take what sea and land it has, make an expeditionary force out of it, and deploy it in some trading zones (possibly in countries that have resources China needs) rather than see its population starve and itself overthrown. That’s the standard response from any H. Sap. political organization. Things will get very messy.

    And please remember that I’m like the weatherman: I report, I don’t cause.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] http://www.yourarticlelibrary.com/geography/mackinders-heartland-theory-explained/42542

    2] http://www.economicsdiscussion.net/articles/advantages-and-disadvantages-of-water-transport/2185

  178. Sean says:
    @Stan

    Israel is a shitty little country but its treatment of the Palestinians is side issue for the West, just as the way the Kurds are treated is unfortunate but hardly our responsibility. A confrontation with burgeoning China beckons, and America needs to be united. Going off on tangents to play Santa to peoples who lost the geopolitical game and are without a state would weaken the West,

  179. geokat62 says:

    Israel: “It doesn’t feel like my country anymore.”

    My favourite comment:

    “Israelis need to learn be multicultural. Ask Barbara Spectre.”

    • Replies: @KenH
  180. @Daniel Rich

    What part of BOTH the US and Russia are only there to serve their own interest don’t people understand. My only point is Russia is not there out of the goodness of their hearts. People who claim Russia is fighting the globalist juggernaut and is only in Syria to “fight ISIS/ISL” and to make Syria “safe for Democracy” aren’t seeing the big picture. Russia is working hand in hand with China to make sure America is reduced to a second rate global power. Assad has become nothing more than Putin’s puppet on a string. Syria will need money for re-construction, thanks to Russia destroying much of their infrastructure, that money more than likely will come from China(China’s version of “Economic Hit Men”). All the while, lurking in the back ground, that little shit stain known as Israel.

    This report will present the reality of Russia’s Syrian campaign. Russia launched air strikes on hospitals, water treatment plants, and mosques. Russia used cluster bombs. Russia almost exclusively targeted non-ISIS targets. These are the truths that Russia will not admit, and the truths that must be understood when negotiating with Russia as a potential partner.

    https://publications.atlanticcouncil.org/distract-deceive-destroy/

    It’s all about the “Belt and Road Initiative”. There are no good guy’s in this mess, and the real losers in this conflict are the citizens of Syria. Russia is a main partner in “Globalization”.

    One of the main problems of the People’s Republic is to connect the “Belt” with the “Road”. For China it is crucial to be able to bypass the choke points represented by the straits that separate the South China Sea from the Indian Ocean (Malacca, Sunda and Lombok) that, being controlled by the US, prevent the Chinese maritime power to fully develop. A first important asset in this sense is represented by the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, which connects by land Eastern China to the port of Gwadar in Pakistan, in turn connected to the String of Pearls.

    Why Syria?

    In this perspective, Syria becomes a crucial junction within the BRI: a possible development of its transport and port infrastructures, properly connected with each other and with the Belt and Road Initiative, would allow China a further maritime outlet for its land trade and a formidable trade post in the Mediterranean. A further advantage is represented by the increased quantity of goods that China could deliver into the Mediterranean, overcoming the further bottleneck of the Suez Canal.

    Syria also has at least two important factors that represent opportunities to be exploited by Beijing: the country’s urgent need to obtain funds to be allocated to reconstruction and development and the simultaneous disengagement of the United States from the Middle East, an empty space not filled by the EU. Syria is therefore an extremely interested and receptive partner to the proposals of the Chinese government, which finds itself at the same time freed from any diplomatic controversy that could slow down its action.

    http://mediterraneanaffairs.com/bri-china-syria-reconstruction/

  181. A123 says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    we still have no wall.

    We have wall building taking place. (1). However, Trump can only do so much rearranging within congressional appropriations.

    Please, correctly lay the blame on Pelosi and Schumer. They are the ones who refuse to find national security.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/04/defense-secretary-mark-esper-oks-diversion-of-3-6b-in-military-construction-funds-to-border-wall/

    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  182. @Counterinsurgency

    Many good points made in your comments.

  183. A123 says:
    @Art

    Gee — never heard of ASPAC?????

    Gee — Never heard of George Soros?

    He and his cronies out spend AIPAC by at least 100:1. Why don’t you care about the anti-Semitic Globalists’ massive cash outlays?

    PEACE 😇

  184. @Cloak And Dagger

    A very good analysis!

    Here is a speech concerning what is the hardest thing he has to do as President!

    and some other reactions of import

    https://larouchepac.com/20191014/president-trump-kicks-over-chessboard-british-geopolitics

    https://larouchepac.com/20191015/historical-sea-change-has-been-launched-president-trump

    And the way forward to world peace….the Syria Template!

    https://larouchepac.com/20191016/syria-template

    • Replies: @Rurik
  185. @Counterinsurgency

    Chinese seem very naive in their willingness to deal with and trust black Africans and other third worlders to honour deals and not be corrupt, etc. I suspect it will all turn sour for them eventually.

    • Replies: @A123
  186. Rurik says:
    @Abdul Alhazred

    Thank you for that video. I’ve never been so proud of a U.S. president in my life, as I was watching that video. He may have been cynically pandering to people like me, but I don’t care. Even if he was pandering, he said what he said.

    More on Trump by Shamir’s recent article:

    What is much worse for Israel, is Trump’s intent to leave the region. There is a good chance you haven’t seen relevant tweets of the President, for the MSM doomed to surround it by the wall of silence. That is what the President said while ordering withdrawal:

    “Fighting between various groups that has been going on for hundreds of years. USA should never have been in Middle East. The stupid endless wars, for us, are ending! The United States has spent EIGHT TRILLION DOLLARS fighting and policing in the Middle East. Thousands of our Great Soldiers have died or been badly wounded. Millions of people have died on the other side. GOING INTO THE MIDDLE EAST IS THE WORST DECISION EVER MADE … IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY! Now we are slowly & carefully bringing our great soldiers & military home. Our focus is on the BIG PICTURE!”

    Just for this recognition “GOING INTO THE MIDDLE EAST IS THE WORST DECISION EVER MADE … IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY” and for this promise “The stupid endless wars, for us, are ending!” Trump deserves to be re-elected and remembered as the most courageous and independent US President since Richard Nixon.

    His efforts on withdrawing from the Middle East remind of Nixon’s hard struggle to leave Vietnam and to make peace with Russia and China. If he succeeds in this endeavour, he will be rewarded by the American people in 2020..

    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/cautious-optimism-on-turks-and-kurds/

    If he succeeds, then he sure will have my support!

    One of the main instigators of the Syrian imbroglio – Saudi Arabia – had been beaten in Yemen and is no longer eager for battle; ditto Qatar and UAE. Europe is less keen on removing “bloody dictators” than it was. CIA, Jewish Lobby and Clintonite Democrats would keep Syria boiling, but mercifully they are not in full command in Washington. ….

    Thank God.

    Peace.

  187. @A123

    What is allegedly being built is the same worthless fence. The wall prototypes couldn’t legally be used per a clause in one of the terrible spending bills hastily signed by “Master Negotiator” Trump.

    Better than cacklin’ cankles? Yes, but so is my last bowel movement.

    Even if we got a real wall, Orangemeister wants legal gimmegrants in record numbers. We just can’t effing win.

    Don’t you think Trump was a tad premature in announcing “Only I can fix,” to all these problems?

  188. A123 says:
    @Europe Nationalist

    Chinese seem very naive in their willingness to deal with and trust black Africans and other third worlders to honour deals and not be corrupt, etc. I suspect it will all turn sour for them eventually.

    Every high value PRC project in Africa seems to come with as suspiciously large number of military age, ethnic Han Chinese staff.

    The PRC colonization effort is informed by the lessons of former Euro colonies. They have built-in measures to make them very hard to displace. And, should they eventually be forced out, the locals will get nothing but destroyed and poisoned lands.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  189. Republic says:
    @geokat62

    Know more News with Adam News covers the Christian Zionist story. He is still on you tube.
    Jones was banned from that platform recently. He can still be heard on bitchute as well as his own website, Culturewars.com

  190. Rurik says:
    @anon

    the Americans (Obama regime), created ISIS- with the intention that they use Libya’s stolen arms caches to hack and slaughter their way across Syria…”

    Yes, and that’s why I’m skeptical of dumping of Erdogan. How eager was he for this conflict? Did the Obama CIA promise him N. Syria for his complicity? Doubtless assuring that Assad would fall quickly! Or maybe they dangled EU membership, if he joined the team.

    I have a metric that I use.

    If a person or action is in anyway aligned with Israel, then that person or action is suspect, at best.

    Insofar as Erdogan has been aligned with Israel and its interests and agendas (the destruction and carving up of Syria)- is the degree to which he has been a malefactor on the world’s stage.

    /

    Vs. the degree to which he’s opposed to Israel’s nefarious agendas;

    – he’s demonstrated actual statesmanship.

    So that’s my metric. That’s why generally I don’t have to pour over the minutia of every action or issue with a fine tooth comb, rather I just ask, ‘is this person or action aligned with Israel’s agenda.. (genocide, theft, murder, hegemony, strife…), and the question always seems to answer itself!

    Just consider the Obama regime. When I approved of what Obama was doing- peace with Iran- it was when he was in Israel’s crosshairs.

    When I disapproved of Obama’s treasons, it was when his actions were perfectly aligned with Israel – destruction of Libya, destruction of Syria… and so forth.

    It really is a near perfect, if not perfect metric.

    When Trump is betraying America and Americans, is when he’s serving Israel – open borders, drones, sanctions on Iran and Russia and others..

    When he’s acting like an actual American president, in the service of this nation, is when he’s in direct opposition to Israel’s agenda – ending the Eternal Wars, making videos about dead American soldiers, firing Bolton, talking about nationalism at the UN..

    I’m really sort of waiting for this test to ever fail, it’s been so reliably perfect for so long.

    So if you want to know if Erdogan is acting in good faith, just check to see if what he’s doing pleases Israel, and you’ll know all you need to know!

    Is a Kurdish state a good thing?

    Well, what does the ‘metric’ say?

    Is Turkey’s incursion into Syria a good thing?

    Here, a mouthpiece of Zion posits ‘no’.

    The Turkish government is no longer interested in helping Syrians liberate themselves from Assad’s murderous regime.

    https://www.cfr.org/blog/turkeys-incursion-syria-making-things-better-or-worse

    which indicates that it is a good thing!

    We can’t all be savvy to every nuanced action taken all over the globe. There are regional exigencies that we simply can’t know about.

    Who are the good guys and who are the bad guys in places like Ukraine, or Syria?

    But with my metric, so far, I’ve had a 100% success rate in determining the good actors and actions, from the bad.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  191. @ivan

    It is quite obvious that it is you and your meshpukha who are not civilized John of the Apocalypse.

  192. @A123

    It takes one to know one.

  193. @Rurik

    Thanks!

    The video is very powerful, and this video linked in this link features Trump’s speaking with attendant images of the families of the soldiers and what they have to go through….because of the lies of the warmongers.

    Yes Peace!

    https://www.infowars.com/watch-the-most-powerful-and-tear-jerking-words-ever-spoken-by-trump/

  194. @Rurik

    As Commander in Chief tRump wanted to kill Syria President Basher Assad for having gassed his own people🙄 & having to be restrained by his Generals, Amerikans now see another side to their president which Rurik observed on video & gushed: “I’ve never been so proud of a U.S. president in my life, as I was watching that video. He may have been cynically pandering to people like me, but I don’t care. Even if he was pandering, he said what he said… Thank God. Peace.”

    Am sincerely glad you’re “happy,” Rurik, that Trumpstein moved to shed some of his Adelson/Netantahu skin implants.🤗 Nonetheless, & I don’t want to be a GOP Likud-Party pooper, but am sticking with Philip Giraldi’s advisory to, “Let’s see what he actually does.”

    At any rate, linked below (& fyr in ☮️), is Brother Nathanael’s latest video. In order to stave off our nation’s descent into Greater Sodom & Gomorrah, it’s understandable to me how Bro Nat prefers “The Chosen One” to continue as ZUS president over his uber-liberal & decadent Zio-Democrat opponents.😈

    Thanks Rurik, and enjoy the good times of tRump’s proclamation of an end to endless wars for Greater Israel while it lasts!

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/55BgQc7QrSD4/

  195. @Sean

    “Israel is a shitty little country but its treatment of the Palestinians is side issue for the West . . . A confrontation with burgeoning China beckons”

    Israel’s overall shiftiness IS not at all a “side issue” to USA, it is at the heart of US FP dysfunction.

    According to the video below, Israel is firmly on board and participating in China’s rise.

    h/t Johnny Walker Read @138

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  196. vyshibala says:

    The wonderful context is, it’s not up to Trump. It’s not up to the US government. The world will squeeze the CIA regime out of Syria. Russian doctrine of coercion to peace works equally well on degenerate great powers, with the minor filip of face-saving subterfuge for routed US functionaries.

    Lindsay Graham gets to shake his tiny fist ineffectually at a sneering NATO ally instead of shaking his tiny fist ineffectually at a nuclear power with overwhelming hypersonic nonballistic missile capability. Much safer.

  197. @Wally

    The only way to change this cast of filthy charACTORs we have running this country is to have a “NONE OF THE ABOVE” box located prominently at the bottom of every ballot. One I would take the time and effort needed to check.

  198. @Cloak And Dagger

    Trump’s problem is that he has very little support for his MAGA agenda in his own party. People like Lindsey Graham who support him here and there will not hesitate to turn on him if he takes positions that offend Sheldon Adelson. Trump’s none-too-sophisticated, none-too-affluent base is opposed by the media, academe, Wall Street, Silicon Valley, the FBI and CIA, and the Rainbow Coalition assemblage of minority voices. Even Fox News (apart from Tucker) opposes Trump’s agenda even as it defends Trump against spurious charges of colluding with the Russians. For example, Hannity regularly charges the Democrats with being in league with Putin, in effect conceding that the Russians are evil enemies. Yet Trump’s MAGA proposal was detente and friendly cooperation with (now-Christian) Russia.

    At the end of the day, the 4D Chess view seems more right than wrong. While Trump’s commitment to the right is both shallow and wavery, in the present setting he cannot do more than hold the enemy at bay and wait for reinforcements to show up. That means it’s up to US, his supporters, to find ways to weigh in on his side. As the fascists used to say, a bundle of sticks can be strong even if the individual sticks are weak.

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Counterinsurgency
  199. @Sean

    My question to you is: a confrontation between who or what and China? To the extent that America collapses into a post-Christian, post-European congeries of plutocrats and their commercial interests, such a confrontation has no clear shape. The evolving character of American society has been put on the table by the Trump/populist revolution, and the role of Jews in our cultural evolution is part of that even if it is taboo to discuss it. The issue over the Palestinians is the only way to challenge the successful assumption of moral carte blanche by the secular Jewish community, which Jewish thought leaders have parlayed into an effective assault on freedom of speech and assembly (particularly in Europe but also here), and a campaign to stigmatize whiteness, Christianity, and the nuclear family.

    Conclusion: The issue of Palestine is a proxy for the larger issue of whether secular Judaism deserves its current status as moral hegemon. It is the only way to raise this issue that is not instantly dismissed as neo-Nazism.

    • Replies: @Sean
  200. @SolontoCroesus

    SolontoCroesus wrote: “Israel’s overall shiftiness IS not at all a “side issue” to USA, it is at the heart of US FP dysfunction.
    According to the video below, Israel is firmly on board and participating in China’s rise.”

    To All commenters,

    Above, when SolontoCroesus speaks, I listen & learn.🤗

    When President Bonespur speaks, it pains to listen, & I can potentially become deceived.

    Will likely get friendly fire from Rurik, but I truly wish he reads your comment & astutely watches the very informative linked Talpiot video. Hurts when I see good men (like him) gush while listening to “The Chosen One’s” tear jerking words.

    Thanks for your patriotic servus, S2C!

    P.S.: Behind D.C.’s Blue & White House curtain, Treasury Secretary Mnuchin licks his choppers😈 in anticipation of effectual ZUS sanctions, & the Chinese communist government’s finally granting Goldman Sachs Group permission to do “untethered” investment business” in the mainland; the largest consumer market on the planet.🤑

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @SolontoCroesus
  201. @Sean

    ‘Israel is a shitty little country but its treatment of the Palestinians is side issue for the West, just as the way the Kurds are treated is unfortunate but hardly our responsibility. A confrontation with burgeoning China beckons, and America needs to be united. Going off on tangents to play Santa to peoples who lost the geopolitical game and are without a state would weaken the West,’

    As usual you’ve being dishonest. You agree Israel is a ‘shitty little country’ — but manage to insinuate we should continue to support it.

    After all, we don’t have to spend a penny to ‘play Santa’ to the Palestinians (as if we had nothing to do with their expulsion.). It’s the Israelis we subsidize and protect, not the Palestinians.

    In fact, we can help the Palestinians and save money too! Yank Israel off our tit and we get to have our cake and eat it too. The Palestinians get their home back, and we save billions every year. All we have to do is to stop funding their tormentors,

  202. @Rurik

    ‘I have a metric that I use.

    If a person or action is in anyway aligned with Israel, then that person or action is suspect, at best.’

    It is always wrong to support Israel.

    In 2008, I voted for McCain instead of Obama. I told myself they’d both be equally supportive of Israel, but I knew deep down inside that was a lie.

    I voted for McCain because he wasn’t black. That doesn’t bother me. What bothers me is that I allowed some other consideration to seduce me into supporting Israel — however trivially and as it turned out ineffectually.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  203. If you establish 911 was a fraud then subsequent war on terror is a fraud. The West will exhaust themselves waging war against Islam and the Muslims despite killing millions of people. They will dig their own graves and cast themselves in hell fire for eternal damnation for subscribing to Santa Claus lies and Jesus died for their evils by supporting the money changer’s ideology for greater Israel project to usher in their Anti-Christ as their Messiah. Anti-Christ Dajjal will take them for a ride to hell. He will play them “By way of Deception” just as they are playing the rest of the world “By way of Deception wage wars.” So how many of us are willing to sell our souls in exchange for the worldly gains and pay a penalty for eternal damnation?

  204. Rurik says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    when SolontoCroesus speaks, I listen & learn.

    A prudent policy.

    gush while listening to “The Chosen One’s” tear jerking words.

    “I’ve never been so proud of a U.S. president in my life, as I was watching that video. “

    Gushing?

    Perhaps, I suppose, depending on your definition.

    But when’s the last time you heard a Z.U.S. president speak of the war dead with compassion and pathos? Hell, when’s the last time you heard them speak of these tragic victims of American f0lly (treason and war crimes), and their families- at all?

    He was saying ‘enough of this madness!’

    And from what I understand, American troops are indeed vacating Syrian bases.

    BTW, leaving for a few days, so keep up the good fight, Brother Chuck!

  205. Rurik says:
    @Colin Wright

    In 2008, I voted for McCain instead of Obama. I told myself they’d both be equally supportive of Israel, but I knew deep down inside that was a lie.

    That’s a very honest act of self-reflection, Colin.

    I voted for Ron Paul, (If I recall, I wrote in his name).

    I would have preferred the racist commie to the war mongering scumbag, but only because by then I understood the nature of McCain all too well.

    How bad could a racist commie be, after all, since there still are the other branches of Gov.

    Turns out very bad indeed.

    Still tho, not as bad as McCain would have been. Just as Trump, (TDS* notwithstanding), is a thousand times better than the war hag would have been.

    * Trump Derangement Syndrome

  206. @Wally

    Wally likes to cheap shot P.G., haha, and once again futilely asked him: “Has Giraldi ever stated which current candidate is his preference vs. Trump?”

    Get on the ball, wailing Wall! (zzZigh) Likely, even some knowledgeable CODAH associates will inform that YOU’LL get what Supremacist Jews give you.

    Haha. The Zionized D.N.C. is presently fretting over which Jewish Lobby-approved presidential 2020 candidate they should give to their “base” voters. Haha. Liberal tribe chieftains 🤑are confident that even Mayor Pete Buttigieg will make incumbent, Trumpstein, Tweet-out “endless” sweat on election night.

    Nonetheless, had Amerika a real choice,🙄, Ron Paul would be my #1 “anti-Chosen One” alternative. Refer to his article below, wailing Wall?

    Yours truly, in “ownership,” (💤Igh)

    Charles J. Orloski, Jr.
    West Scranton, Pa.

    http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2019/october/14/washington-is-wrong-once-again-kurds-join-assad-to-defend-syria/

    Selah, uh…, can Amerikans audit The Fed instead of having to go to bed with an abusive Talpiot Red?

  207. Z-man says:
    @jack daniels

    Yet Trump’s MAGA proposal was detente and friendly cooperation with (now-Christian) Russia.

    That’s why the NeoCohens hate Putin so much, for re-establishing Russian Christian Orthodoxy as the ‘national’ religion. Trump, on the other hand, admires Putin for his nationalism and wants white Christian Russia to be friends with nominally Christian America. Unfortunately he must bow down to the Satanic anti Christ power brokers, the Cabal, that keeps him in power and checks his nationalist leanings. Hopefully he will overcome this in a second term but I’ve been saying that about presidents for years!

  208. @Anon

    Very interesting video. I will begin researching the stories in it and making my judgement. Thanks for sharing.

  209. @ChuckOrloski

    Thanks ChuckOrloski.
    Undeserved, tho — I was just being a shepherd guiding the flock to other people’s good work, a practice I learned from your comment style.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  210. @Rurik

    Hey Brother Rurik!

    I don’t want to be in the business of educating you on un-American actions undertaken by “Z.U.S. presidents.” You really know better, but since Jacques Sheete, peace be upon him, is M.I.A., I will now do my best.

    No doubt, Trumpstein is different. Please pause momentarily and consider how he very recently wanted to sell/provide nuclear weapons systems to Saudi Arabia.😈 Fyi, and lucky for the entire Middle East’s general population, Trump’s lack of “compassion” was overuled by those higher in the ZUS’s Blue & White House Lowerarchy.☠️ (Note: He ain’t “The Decider,” he is the ever useful & divisive Zion Tweet-Chord)

    So given the U.R. Moderator sword is not activated, linked down below, is a joint radio show, hosted by Dr. David Duke & Ryan Dawson. Ideally, this action will take the job of trying to educate YOU from off my shoulders, Rurik.😏 No reading needed, & just carefully listen!

    Fyi, Dr. Duke and Mr. Dawson will provide the means by which an anti-Zionist & patriotic American can resist the evil sway dished-out daily by our “Homeland’s” Zionist Corporate Media. These largely demonized gentlemen/scholars explain how Zionized Republicans & Democrats are curiously “on the same page” when it comes to humanely protecting the Kurds.🤔

    But when it comes to supporting & defending The Land of Bilk & Money,🇮🇱they unite. Yippie! On other hand, and when it comes to actually helping the restless & sorry lot of dumb goyim working Amerikans, they fight like…, er, “Tom and Jerry.” (Zigh) Why Trumpstein even moved to kill the underachieving & oft unaffordable “Affordable Care Act,” a.k.a., Obamacare.😟

    Enjoy your time off, my Brother Rurik, and I suggest, at minimum, partial evacuation from the dug-in Jewish Corporate Media “bases.”

    https://davidduke.com/friday191011/

  211. @Rurik

    More homework, Rurik!

    Linked below is what appears to be VT’s “honest reflection” upon our current ZUS president’s “senility.” Again, a good rest to you!

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/10/16/trumps-senile-moment-of-the-day-kurds-now-worse-than-isis/

  212. @Rurik

    ‘That’s a very honest act of self-reflection, Colin.

    I voted for Ron Paul, (If I recall, I wrote in his name).

    I would have preferred the racist commie to the war mongering scumbag, but only because by then I understood the nature of McCain all too well…’

    Now you’re reminding me of 2012. Of course, I was going to vote for Obama over Israel’s man-in-the-White House-to-be. An unpleasant choice, but there it was…

    So my wife and I were down in Alameda at a winery. Somewhat incongruously, the server was right-wing, and started praising Romney. I stayed tactful, as I didn’t want to kill my buzz, but my wife — who is easily influenced — came out of there going ‘Romney number one. Yeah — I’m going to vote for him!’

    In an unusual display of wisdom, I bit my tongue. We’ll see how this plays out…

    You need to understand my wife comes from a poor background. If you want to meet ‘the working poor,’ go see her relatives.

    So the very next day, Romney comes out with his ‘49%’ remark. It was classic.

  213. @Johnny Walker Read

    Right. This happens every so often. I am not recommending de Sade or any of his works.

    I’m recommending the movie:
    “The Persecution and Assassination of Jean-Paul Marat as Performed by the Inmates of the Asylum of Charenton Under the Direction of the Marquis de Sade “, play 1963, movie 1967 [1]. The movie has very little to do with the writings of the original Marquis de Sade [2], but it does do a good job of showing the spirit of revolutions.

    de Sade had a good reputation with the revolutionaries. He was elected a delegate to the French National Convention, but fell during the Reign of Terror [3]. He really did direct publicly presented plays at Charenton starting in 1803, but was eventually arrested and denied paper and pen in 1809. Died 1815, and several large manuscripts were subsequently burned by his son, who apparently thought that de Sade had done quite enough harm already.

    Insofar as tje video has anything to do with the real de Sade, it is that the director (fictional de Sade) manages to stage a small revolution himself in the final scene, _after_ demonstrating that the audience is little more sane than de Sade is (“15 glorious years” scene). As in the link given by Read [4], de Sade acts as the philosophical godfather of revolution and revolt as an end in itself.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marat/Sade
    XXXhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJc4I6pivqg

    2] https://www.winterwatch.net/2019/10/the-marquis-de-sade-a-philosophical-godfather-of-the-new-underworld-order/

    3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_de_Sade

    4] https://www.winterwatch.net/2019/10/the-marquis-de-sade-a-philosophical-godfather-of-the-new-underworld-order/

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  214. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:

    The really pathetic attempt by ABC to pass off Kentucky gun range footage as a Syrian conflict zone is a good example of the consequences of Congress’ horrible 2013 decision (that you may not have heard of) to totally legalize domestic propaganda. @_whitneywebb

    In the age of legal, weaponized propaganda directed against the American people, false narratives have become so commonplace in the mainstream media that they have essentially become normalized, leading to the era of “fake news” and “alternative facts.”

    Lifting of US Propaganda Ban Gives New Meaning to Old Song
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/planting-stories-in-the-press-lifting-of-us-propaganda-ban-gives-new-meaning-to-old-song/237493/

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  215. @SolontoCroesus

    Dear SolontoCroesus,

    A point, re; Non-Zionized Rules of Engagement.

    The bad and ugly shepherds persistently hit vulnerable & trusting Unzers with their “best shot.” For one example, the currently M.I.A. commenter, Maven Sam Shama.

    Subsequently, I see no valid reason why intelligent & good men — like you! — should not give their “best shot” and attempt to support & rescue lost sheeple who regularly appear here.*

    * Some lost sheep simply like it that way, and therefore, bad shepherds, for one example, the featherweight commenter “Sean,” get lots of practice at misguiding the flock.🥴

    Ciao, S2C. Continue to be unflappable.

  216. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Right, what to do is the question now that everybody has been taken by surprise.

    I’d say that the advice “get out of debt, get out of the major cities” is fairly good, and fairly obvious, and has been so for some time. As to income, I just don’t know. You might try linking up to some group (non-Left) that seems to be cohesive and has _some_ plan of action that isn’t too weird. Under stress, cohesive groups can survive better than individuals.

    You might also remember the rule of thumb that prophets can predict either what or when, but not both. It’s obvious that the US in general and cities in particular are in severe decline, but _when_ the current system will cast off much of the population it now supports is simply not known. Abandon it too soon and you end up extremely poor, so a sharp break is extremely risky. I’d say that retiring debt, hardening your house against home invasion, and finding some group as above, would be about all that would be justified right now. If your neighborhood is deteriorating, it might be a good idea to go to another one that isn’t, since the deterioration is unlikely to reverse itself. If you’re in with an ethnic group that doesn’t like your ethnic group, it might be a good idea to displace, if only to avoid the unpleasantness.

    Wish I could say something better, but that’s it.

    Counterinsurgency

  217. @jack daniels

    The current US system / world order will end within the next decade no matter what Trump does. Trump is trying to shut it down with minimal casualties and replace it with something viable, which is a good thing to do, but if Trump were to vanish tomorrow the current US system / world order would still end within the next decade, maybe two decades if things went very badly wrong.
    Trump has the wind at his back, he’s trying to do things that would do themselves (although not as well) and that’s why the appearance of 4D Chess. But, as you point out, Trump leads a very small force of government officials, and would lose without the strength given by his supporters. Continued support, in word and in deed, should reduce casualties (to include Trump and his family) during the current transition.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  218. J. O. says:

    BILLIONS FOR WARS

    MEANWHILE, Millions Hungry and Food Insecure in the US

    ”According to the US Department of Agriculture in 2018, food insecurity affects 37 million Americans, including over 11 million children — the numbers likely way understated.”

    ”Around 40 million Americans experience hunger annually.”

    ”At least 15 million US households endure food insecurity.”

    ”Hunger is caused by poverty and inadequate financial resources, a nationwide problem.”

    ”Around 45 million Americans rely on food stamps, an eroding program providing inadequate help.”

    “1 in 6 American children may not know where their next meal is coming from.”

    “22 million children in America rely on the free or reduced-price lunch they receive at school, but as many as 3 million children still aren’t getting the breakfast they need.”

    FROM Stephen Lendman:
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/millions-hungry-food-insecure-us/5692168

    DOES THE ABOVE CORRESPOND TO THE ”MAKE AMERICA GREAT GAIN”????

    WHY THE BILLIONS IN WEAPONS AND RESSOURCES FOR WARS?

    INFURIATING! DEFINITELY NOT A GREAT NATION.

    USAID SHOULD REMAIN HERE: FOR THE 40 MILLION AMERICANS EXPERIENCING HUNGER

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  219. @Rurik

    I applaud the sentiment too.
    I’m hearing rumours that Trump has put a thousand troops into Saudi Arabia and claimed they are paying for it.
    Is it now America’s lot to be not just Israel’s but SA’s mercenaries?
    2020 can’t come fast enough. I’d love to see a Trump super majority and some serious reform.
    It’s pretty clear the Evangelical Zionist’s are Israelis’ [email protected]
    America, it seems, must not only reclaim itself but also it’s religion. EV is a heresy and the leaders are on their knees [email protected] Israel. It is disgusting to watch.

  220. @Counterinsurgency

    Thank you for you lengthily and thorough reply.

    Yes, I agree, having trucks and trains go overland and via various countries comes with the risk of conflicts erupting between 2 or more states participating in Chinese projects. China burnt itself badly in Libya, where Hillary “We Came, We Saw, He Died! Haw, haw, haw…” Rotham Clingon ran amok.

    China is actively setting up routes via the attic as well, so I think China carefully weighs all its options, but doing business comes with certain risks, those are unavoidable.

    When I was in Africa [The Gambia and there about], I noticed a lot of Chinese merchandise being sold all over the place. I heard stories of some Chinese being attacked and/or murdered elsewhere in Africa, but haven’t dealt with any Chinese businessman myself or heard their stories in person.

    Having been on that vast continent doesn’t make me an expert whatsoever, but I see Africa become a huge anchor around the world’s neck. Can’t use a single brush to paint entire nations, I know, but what I saw didn’t look good.

    side note: I didn’t live in a hotel with armed guards, I lived in a compound with Africans, so it’s not that I have no up close experience. Furthermore, I was always treated with kindness, respect and warmth.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  221. @Rurik

    O.T

    I read somewhere James Gandolfini [The Sopranos], actively did a lot of stuff for [military] veterans.

  222. eah says:
    @eah

  223. @J. O.

    Step 1 in ending hunger in America:
    Stop importing hungry foreigners who can’t earn a living here.
    Do that and somebody might take you seriously. As it is, you’re morally despicable.

    Counterinsurgency

  224. @renfro

    I believe that the Israeli /Anglo Zionist goal was to either 1) destroy Iran or 2) being Iran back into the Western orbit as a vassal state tied to the dollar.
    Those two goals which once may have been attainable are no longer so.
    Even Pentagon war planners know that their children would have to fight Iran and that war with Iran would prove 100x tougher than Iraq.
    China’s Silk Road Offers seems to offer economic growth without vassal state status

    • Replies: @A123
  225. @Counterinsurgency

    I understand, and I am aware that you operate at a higher level of intelligence than most here (including myself). I look forward to your insight’s, although at times it takes me a bit to comprehend your message. Keep up the good fight.

  226. Sean says:
    @jack daniels

    Cutting Israel lose to feel morally pure, would would be nice, but cost plenty and in my opinion too much. Feeling good about oneself is hardly worth destruction of the anti China alliance before it even got off the launch pad . The Israel Lobby are a pain, but we need them, because we need everyone all pulling together for the fight that is coming. Yes it makes you feel dirty, but we are down here with the filth and worms not in an ivory tower

  227. A123 says:
    @Houston 1992

    I believe that the Israeli /Anglo Zionist goal was to either 1) destroy Iran or 2) being Iran back into the Western orbit as a vassal state tied to the dollar. … Those two goals which once may have been attainable are no longer so.

    The goal of the civilized world is stop Iran from destabilizing and threatening the world. Iranian al’Hezbollah occupies Lebanon and undermines the legitimate government. Iran is trying to infiltrate Syria so it can be driven into failure like Lebanon. Iran is developing nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles to deliver them.

    Iran can easily rejoin the civilized world of of it stops the violence against its neighbors. Alas, Ayatollah Khameni is a sociopath. He does not care about the suffering of the Iranian workers trying to survive in a collapsing economy. (1)

    The Iranian rial official rate is set at 42,000 rials to the U.S. dollar, but its market rate stood at around 115,000 against the dollar on Tuesday, according to foreign exchange website Bonbast.com.

    Iran’s economy is expected to shrink by 9.5% this year, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) said, down from a previous estimate of a 6% contraction, as the country feels the impact of tighter U.S. sanctions.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://m.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-economy-to-shrink-95-percent-this-year-amid-tighter-US-sanctions-IMF-604717

  228. @anon

    The late former director of the CIA William Colby said that the CIA owned anyone of any significance in the MSM, Colby was later assassinated.

    The CIA is under zionist control ie via the Mossad!

  229. @Daniel Rich

    Thanks for your reply! Africans and Black people from the Caribbean can be kind, respectful, and warm as long as their societies are intact.

    I’d imagine that Donald Rich is familiar with these works and more, but here’s a brief popular literature / internet search for material concerning trading in sub-Saharan Africa and the Third World in general:

    Amy Chua.
    _The World on Fire_
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Chua

    V. S. Naipaul.
    _A Bend in the River_.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Bend_in_the_River

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising

    and the Africans (indeed, third world countries worldwide) seem to have only one way of coping. Looking at it from that angle, the Vietnam War was about throwing out the Chinese businessmen and the French/Americans who were supporting them. See Chua’s discussion of this in _The World on Fire_
    The universal group preference seems to be living in a society that the group has developed for itself over a society that produces more goods and longer lives but is run by foreigners.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  230. @Counterinsurgency

    A kick-off observation: Counterinsurgency’s “screen name” is intriguing, and it suggests, to me, a fellowship beyond that of a single commenter.

    Broken Scranton greetings, Counterinsurgency!

    Your following words make ominous sense but I cannot place my arms around what you precisely mean when zeroing in upon “The current US system / world order.”

    Questions sprout from even keen ambiguity, so I politely ask you to provide an improved definition of, “The current US system / world order.” Hm. Is it in part the “US” maintaining it’s shaky reserve currency distinction, and it’s attack/sanction every country that deserves such?🥴

    And regarding the “US world order,” one pauses to recognize that such is now become a downsized & disputed residual of President G.H.W. Bush’s “New World Order” proclamation.

    And then, a reader (like me!) becomes rather dazzled by a quasi-Nostradamus/Protocols of Zion style 😏 prediction that all “will end within the next decade no matter what Trump does. Trump is trying to shut it down with minimal casualties, and replace it with something viable.” Hm. Something “viable,” eh, like City of Scranton’s position, in the E.R.? Haha, (Zigh)

    No doubt alluring & as Johnny Walker Read attested in comment #229, “I am aware that you (Counterintelligence) operate at a higher level of intelligence than most here (including myself).” In addition, you comment as if operating with greater awareness & confidence of what the hell is really going down. Impressive, 👍!

    But regarding noble & brotherly Amerikans who are willing to work toward a semblance of national unity & salvation, there’s a problem, Counterinsurgency.

    The awesome ZUS government “system” prioritizes feeding the wealthy; for easy examples, themselves, friends, oligarchs, multinational corporations, and of course Israel & the M.I.C. (Zigh) Consequently, employed but oft still struggling average Amerikan subjects get scraps which fall from off the national budget’s indebted banquet table.😞

    The USA population now endures an advanced engineered-experiment where a nation becomes characterized by Haves & Have Not; in parable language, a “Rich Man & Lazarus” divide.

    Agreed, you’re spot-on correct on Trump’s main Executive job as limitation of casualties during “the transition.” Nonetheless, I respectfully suggest a crystal ball tune-up because, & very regrettably, “the wind at Trump’s back” blows from Tel Aviv, London, and AIPAC headquarters.

    Thanks, Counterinsurgency, and can you please offer a sunshine response?

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Art
  231. @Counterinsurgency

    Reasonably, and to Daniel Rich, Counterintelligence explained: “Africans and Black people from the Caribbean can be kind, respectful, and warm as long as their societies are intact.”

    Above, & as you’re aware, “societies” originate in packs/tribes.” * In general, & for lack of a better word, such entities permit themselves to be governed.

    In the America where I grew up, there was a saying that “fish rot from the head.”

    Now, Counterintelligence, I indulge the word “fish” as a metaphor for submerged Amerikan human beings. Okay? Fyi, haha, Jews are fisherman for consumable pools of ‘Merikan Shabbos goy carp.

    When either packs/tribes or nations become governed by distorted & selfish leaders, the collective entity rots & such process typically starts from the “head.”

    Now we arrive at Amerika’s dreaded fate, and one which you described as President tRump’s managing a gradual engineered “transition.” (Zigh) No doubt, the throwaway fish rots from the head? Thanks, Counterintelligence!

    P.S.: Sometimes during particularly glum “Homeland” moments,🙄 & instead of the tribe’s actual imposed governance, 🇮🇱, I wish my country was ruled by the first ten (10) “kind” people who are listed in Somalia’s Yellow Pages.

    * Try Jewish author, Elias Canetti’s remarkable book, “Packs and Tribes.”

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  232. TGD says:

    Andrew Zimmern, the Jewish chef and celebrity who does a TV program called “bizarre foods,” visited Syria in 2011 (season 6, episode 1) before the start of the civil war. Zimmern was pretty apprehensive about the visit and says so at the beginning but he was won over by the kindness and humanity of the Syrian people and the beauty of the country. It is a tragedy what has happened there. I don’t know how long the link below will be available, but see the show for yourself.

    • Replies: @Art
  233. I did not study US constitution.
    I do have a question:
    When Trump will be impeached, and Trump loose support in Senate and so he will be removed from presidency, will he still be entitled to run in next election?

    • Replies: @A123
  234. Ahoy says:

    @ ChuckOrloski #235

    Hey my bro Chuck, your “fish rot from the head” is all the money.

    Could it be that here we have a case of a head that refuses to be rotten?

    It is so refreshing to see that Scranton keeps the spirit of the Bell alive. Respect.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  235. A123 says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    I did not study US constitution. I do have a question: When Trump will be impeached, and Trump loose support in Senate and so he will be removed from presidency, will he still be entitled to run in next election?

    Your hypothetical will not happen. There is no chance of a Senate Conviction & Removal during an election year. Then resulting internal fight would also wipe out the Republicans in the House and Senate.
    _____

    That being said. The answer to your constitutional question is, “Yes”. Neither House impeachment nor Senate conviction is a bar to serving as President.

    The only requirements to serve as U.S. President are found in two places:

    Article II, Section I, Clause 5

    No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

    Amendment 22

    No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  236. “Let’s see what he actually does ” , it appears that he’s shuffling forces around and even adding to them as John Feffer describes in his article : ” Trump’s Endless Wars” which appears in the most recent edition of Informed Comment .
    Feffer : ” In fact , the Trump administration has deployed an additional 14,000 US forces to the Middle East since the Spring , compare that to the 1000 troops he is withdrawing from Northern
    Syria . The President seems more intent on starting fires than ending them .”

  237. Art says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    “the wind at Trump’s back” blows from Tel Aviv, London, and AIPAC headquarters.

    Chuck — thanks for the AIPAC mention.

    AIPAC is a small but powerful political tribe within our nation. Clearly, we cannot leave Syria because of AIPAC. When it comes to foreign policy – it rules America. Only 60 members of congress voted to leave Syria. Some 375 members voted with AIPAC, while most Americans want us to leave. Is that not stunning? What political power.

    No informed American can like AIPAC. It is time that we pacifically target AIPAC as a coercive organization. Clearly, it is in the wrong – it is vulnerable. Those in congress who support it like lemmings – also need condemnation.

    p.s. Going after AIPAC has the added benefit of not attacking all Jews.

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
    , @Z-man
  238. Art says:
    @TGD

    Zimmern was pretty apprehensive about the visit and says so at the beginning but he was won over by the kindness and humanity of the Syrian people and the beauty of the country.

    The same is said by people who visit Iran. Rick Steves Travels Program – did a Iran video – he had the same generous reaction about Iran.

  239. @A123

    A return to the status quo ante.

    Status quo ante except for the minor detail that Syria is going to need ten years of peace to renovate what has been demolished.

  240. Interestingly, Art recommended: “Going after AIPAC has the added benefit of not attacking all Jews.”

    Agreed, Art, but with one major caveat.

    As you know, the late-President JFK and Attorney General RFK wanted AIPAC’s predecessor to register as a foreign agent. 👍! Fyi, the young Illinois Congressman, Donald Rumsfeld, articulated his opposition in writing to Bobby.

    These days, invulnerable AIPAC must simply remind all standing ZUS presidents & members of our Knesset Congress West about the severe risks involved in attacking AIPAC.☠️

    (Note: Regrettably, AIPAC doesn’t hesitate to expel even Jewish Senators; for one example, groping Al Franken,🙄who also non amusingly “spilled the beans” about his family’s having received Odigo warning messages just prior to the 9/11 Manhattan-based attacks)

    Thanks & my respect, Art!

    P.S.: Sincerely wish RobinG was around so that I could be bitten, badgered, & charged with defeatism.

  241. @A123

    Thank you very much. You are decent person.

    So Democrats so jealously protecting Biden and whitewashing him they are only spinning their wheels.
    Slow wit Biden has no chance in hell to beat Trump. Trump will demolish him in every debate.
    Only Elizabeth Warren has a good chance to beat Trump. She is intelligent and authority personality not like Biden, and she has clean record not like Hillary. Some of her ideas are not worked out in detail, but they are of right direction. So I would assume that majority of women will be voting for her. And that could make a difference

  242. A123 says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Only Elizabeth Warren has a good chance to beat Trump.

    I would assume that majority of women will be voting for her. And that could make a difference

    Liz Warren is a lecturer and scolder. While she polls well with college educated white women she does not have a great deal of appeal to minority and non-college white women. Her appeal to male voters is not good across the board. She does not produce the emotional appeal necessary to drive turnout.

    Also, her false claims of American Indian background makes her an easy mark for Trump’s tactics.

    IMHO, If the Dems want to beat Trump, their only option is Tulsi Gabbard. However the DNC establishment hates her. It is hard seeing how she gets the nomination.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  243. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    On the presidential campaign prospects of Elizabeth Warren, Ilyana_Rozumova offered: “Some of her ideas are not worked out in detail, but they are of right direction.”

    Hello, Ms. _Rozumova.

    (Zigh) Re, above; So long as Elizabeth’s evolving “ideas” continue to lean toward the direction of the Western Wall, she might beat Likud’s Chosen One, Trump.

    Thanks for offering such a well worked out and “decent” delusion!

    Selah, Former-unlean but authoritive DNC Chairman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, bolts after having corralled The Bern’s 2016 votes.😂

  244. @Art

    When congress claps its hands off, in a naked admiration for the leader of Occupied Palestine, during 29 standing ovations, it was like a ‘When do we leave Stalin’s deathbed’ moment to me.

    In most foreign countries MAGA = Make America Go Away.

    I’d say, ‘Take the country back and fly one flag.”

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  245. @A123

    In a country where celebrity status and showmanship are placed on the altar of normalcy, people who actually make sense are not very well understood [not referring to Warren here].

  246. geokat62 says:

    The Stasi, er I mean, the ADL have just banned Red Ice:

    The gulags cannot be far off now, da comrade?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  247. So the ADL banned Red Ice & The Blue & White Gulag Roundup, Inc. is comin’ to my hometown soon, eh?

    Da, Rodnoy brat geokat! Am delighted that “we,” who regularly assemble here at U.R. Comment-Department, 👍 have an ancillary threat warning system. Thank you, geo.

    P.S.: Were Ron Unz whimsically responsive & less civilized, I would lobby for a color-coded Zionist threat-level banner that constantly flashes atop the daily U.R. article masthead, and flexibly changes according to dire political circumstance; i.e., fluctuates from a pale Zion Red to a flaming Zion Red. One color needed, (Zigh)

    • Agree: geokat62
  248. @Cloak And Dagger

    It is interesting that it has been a one way street. What could be happening is that we are witnessing the growing great divide between American and Israeli Jewry. In America the white man is the racist. Trump is associated with white nationalist in America. Jews believe people of European descent can’t be nationalist but the Israelis are going past the American Jews’ comfort zone with their openly racist policies. American Jewish kids don’t get conscripted in order to shoot brown kids and to help take their homes from them. In Israel they do. In Israel the Jews are racist and are proud of it. There is a disconnect. They encourage American Jews to visit and to feel connected with Israel but they don’t have them take up arms and shoot Palestinian kids as a right of passage. Jews in America are a minority with a lot of political power but in Israel they rule and everyone else is a second class citizen. What we are seeing on the left is the effects of this growing divide in the experiences of the two populations. If Trump was Jewish they’d make him King of Israel.

    Also many American Jews who are fine with Israeli racialism value the bipartisan consensus. Trump will come and go but they hope that will last a very longtime. Netanyahu has ruffled feathers by throwing his lot with Trump. Now that he maybe is down for the count they hope that the new Israeli leader can project the right image and use the right rhetoric to quell the rebellion on the American Left while continuing Israel’s racist policies. They use Trump’s troop removal as proof that Netanyahu was wrong to support Trump regardless of all the gifts Trump has bestowed onto Israel. Israel loves all those gifts but what they really want is for Americans to die fighting Iran for them in order to weaken Hezbollah. Trump has yet to do that but even if he did they’d still try to remove him from office.

  249. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @barr

    What do you think of this? Pepe correctly identifies the “cultural misunderstanding” by US/NATO. I just have a hard time believing that the Turks, right next door and with a forever history, could be so deluded about Syria. Oh well, human folly.

    PEPE ESCOBAR: The Road to Damascus: How the Syria War was Won
    https://consortiumnews.com/2019/10/18/pepe-escobar-the-road-to-damascus-how-the-syria-war-was-won/

  250. @geokat62

    Hey geokat!

    Linked below fyr is an enlightening Boston Globe article, provided by Ray McGovern.

    https://raymcgovern.com/2019/10/17/condemning-trump-on-syria-its-buffet-outrage/

    Some present ‘Merikan Democrat “end the endless M.E. wars” warriors shall be disappointed & surprised by author Stephen Kinzer’s recollection as to how, in 1980, President Jimmy Carter retrofitted USA’s “Monroe Doctrine” — & soon to become ZUS’s Unlimited Manifest Destiny, policy ☠️ — for application in the Middle East.

    President Trumpstein is neither reversing nor retiring this insurance policy, to which Israel is primary beneficiary. He’s just retreading as “bad hombre” impeachment forces circle around The Blue & White House perimeter.

    Thanks for tuning-in, Rodnoy brat geokat!

    P.S.: Am particularly thrilled for Ray McGovern because he was knocked down by Capitol Police at Gina Haspel’s CIA Director Senate-confirmation hearing, and he’s up, in the ring, 🥊, & flooring the “buffet outrage table” for all to see.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  251. Anonymous[300] • Disclaimer says:

    Until the American people and Congress stop allowing themselves to be jerked around by Israel and the Jewish lobby, we will continue to fight Israel’s wars.

    And don’t get me started on how the Jewish lobby is the driving force behind US domestic policies too, such as allowing illegal immigration.

  252. Z-man says:
    @Art

    John Mearsheimer and Steven Walt, highly respected academics were nearly blackballed for their seminal work ‘The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy’ from back in 2007. I never fail to salute the two professors.
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=12&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjsuuXiuablAhUBSN8KHSvKAxsQFjALegQIBxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lrb.co.uk%2Fv28%2Fn06%2Fjohn-mearsheimer%2Fthe-israel-lobby&usg=AOvVaw2vTQTI-Toa6Aa2eOUUOy9P

    • Agree: renfro
    • Replies: @Art
    , @Art
  253. Art says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    “the wind at Trump’s back” blows from Tel Aviv, London, and AIPAC headquarters.

    Chuck — if I may continue with the attack AIPAC theme?

    We must admire the Jews in one way – they stick together – somehow when a problem comes up – they all get on the same message – and they force that message on us over and over.

    Could we do the same to AIPAC? Clearly the “American” part of AIPAC is a lie. It is all about Israel – not America. Could we all stick together and condemn AIPAC? Would that work for us (it works for the Jews).

    How many yearly views does The Unz Review receive? If we routinely attack AIPAC by name, whenever a foreign policy question comes up – could that make a political difference in America?

    Is it worth a try?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  254. renfro says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Some of her ideas are not worked out in detail, but they are of right direction.”

    There is actually more detail on her positions than anyone elses.
    She has explained several times what she would do about busting up the monopolies and the ‘too big to fails’ …which believe me need busting up.
    When a company get too big to fail like CitiBank or controls a market like Goggle they , like some others, believe they are untouchable and indulge in all kinds of ‘politically legal and not so legal crime’ ..ripping off Americans in the billions of dollars.

    America back in the fifties use to break up monopolies to prevent any company from having too much ‘power’ in a market. Needs to be done again.

    ESPECIALY the media ownership.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  255. @ChuckOrloski

    Not quite sure what your point is here. Clearly you don’t like Trump, and apparently you think that Trump is simply an agent for various Jewish interests [1], but the rest is not entirely clear.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] This impresses me as being highly unlikely, in the same category as the USSR’s dissolution in AD 1991 being a deception operation by the USSR (that was actually proposed). It assumes Jewish agencies throwing away a victory by H. Clinton in favor of Trump. The goal of such an exercise is not clear. What did they gain by supporting Trump that they couldn’t have gained by electing H. Clinton?

  256. Art says:
    @Z-man

    Until the American people and Congress stop allowing themselves to be jerked around by Israel and the Jewish lobby, we will continue to fight Israel’s wars.

    And don’t get me started on how the Jewish lobby is the driving force behind US domestic policies too, such as allowing illegal immigration.

    Hear Hear — It is time to force AIPAC to register as a foreign agent – period!

  257. Art says:
    @Z-man

    One of AIPAC’s suck-up tools – Hillary Clinton – has charged that Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian agent. She and the Little Jew loser – David Plouffe – got their meager brain cells together to tell that offensive lie.

    Hillary Clinton says Tulsi Gabbard is a ‘Russian asset’ groomed to ensure Trump reelection

    Hillary Clinton said that Rep. Tulsi Gabbard is being groomed by Moscow to run as a third-party spoiler candidate in 2020 to help President Trump win reelection.

    The former secretary of state pushed the theory on Campaign HQ podcast hosted by David Plouffe, President Barack Obama’s campaign manager in 2008.

    Yada yada

    “She is a favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far. That’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not because she is also a Russian asset.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hillary-clinton-says-tulsi-gabbard-is-a-russian-asset-groomed-to-ensure-trump-re-election

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @anon
    , @renfro
  258. Z-man says:
    @Art

    The one good thing about SHillary going ‘on air’ more these days is that it exposes her for the shrill, small, owned by the Cabal, overrated bee-ach that she is.
    Also as Don Imus said about her years ago, she’s Satan.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  259. @Art

    Art reflected and asked the following important questions: “If we routinely attack AIPAC by name, whenever a foreign policy question comes up – could that make a political difference in America?”

    Hey Art,

    According to my power of recollection, The Protocols of The Elders of Zion anticipates treasonous organizations such as AIPAC & the ADL should anticipate coming under attack by dumb goyim Gentiles.

    Here at the popular & frequent commenter-hub, The Unz Review, I posit that AIPAC/ADL Central Command gets living proof that they are despised.

    But, re; your question, Art, does such an apparent & potentially disturbing factor make for a “political difference” in America? Hm.🤔

    Yes, but to reiterate, dissident counterattacks are expected, and I really believe that Lowerarchy Supremacist Jews bust a gut when contemplating comments to P.G.’s articles; for example, both yours & mine, right now.

    Nonetheless, had a little percentage of The Knesset Congress/Senate West and one (1) president taken a step to ally & seriously opt to attack AIPAC/ADL, 🤗 then counter-misbehaving & privileged Shabbos goy “ACTION” kicks into overdrive.

    That ain’t happening anytime soon, Art. In fact, one can see now how Hillary Clinton is dumping upon Tulsi Gabbard & branding her campaign as Under the Influence of Russia, (UTIOR). Haha. Gabbard poked back, advised, “Why don’t you run, bitch?”

    Bottom line, Art. Specialist Supremacist Jews monitor Amerika’s rising temperature, for which the tribe’s engineered oppression is the cause. When the national temperature hits dangerous fever level, the fuckers enter as The Good Doctor. So, (Zigh), my lonely Scranton-question to piggy, Hillary Clinton: “Why don’t you run…, over a Gadarene cliff?”

    Thanks & continue to be unflappable in the Zion Storm, Art.

    Post scriptum: The Zionist Lowerarchy shits & giggles at comments offered by “Counterintelligence,” for example this one which appears in slot # 259:
    “It assumes Jewish agencies throwing away a victory by H. Clinton in favor of Trump. The goal of such an exercise is not clear. What did they gain by supporting Trump that they couldn’t have gained by electing H. Clinton?” Haha. (zzZigh) So Counterintelligence threw this question at me,🙄 while Land of Bilk & Money “agency” pigs toss him into a hellish dumb goyim mindset. Haha. Why don’t CI ask Adam Schiff what Israel lost by Hillary’s 2016 defeat? Haha. He’s more zionized-qualified to “clearly” reply than me!

  260. @Z-man

    To Art, Z-man mused with seriousness about Hillary: “Also as Don Imus said about her years ago, she’s Satan.”

    Haha. One point though, Z-man.

    I believe the regrettably popular Shabbos goy Senator John McCain (Zio-R./Az) appeared as guest on Imus radio, and sang, “Bomb, bomb Iran.”

    A question.

    Would Iranian leaders at the time call both Imus & Senator McCain lesser appendages of “The Great Satan?” 🤔

    Thanks, Z!

    • Replies: @Z-man
  261. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Linked below fyr is an enlightening Boston Globe article, provided by Ray McGovern.

    Hey, Chuck.

    While I’m a big fan of Ray McGovern, that Stephen Kinzer fellow? Not so much.

    Here’s a couple of examples why.

    Example #1, he states that:

    The deeper history of our Middle East tragedy begins in 1980, when President Carter declared that any challenge to American power in the Persian Gulf region would be repelled “by any means necessary, including military force.”

    Begins in 1980, really? I think the roots of ME tragedy go much farther back than that, don’t you?

    Example #2, he avers:

    If Obama had looked at Syria realistically rather then succumbing to fantasy, he would have understood that Assad and his Iranian backers would do whatever necessary to defeat the American project. Instead he plunged ignorantly into a conflict that we had no prospect of winning.

    He makes it look as though Obama all by his lonesome self decided to sponsor a proxy war against Syria. Those dastardly neocons are nowhere to be seen. AIPAC and the CofP have not been busy convincing the Shabbos Goys of Knesset West of the merits of launching said proxy war. The major media outlets are not identified for playing the major role they played in beating the drums for war. In short, this was a concerted effort by the usual suspects, Jewish Supremacists, in taking out another enemy of the villa in the jungle to ensure their security and hegemony in the region. But, according to Stephen, it was all Obama’s fault… yeah, right!

    Keep well, Chuck.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  262. @renfro

    I am crossing my fingers for her. I do hope that she will win. She will be better than Trump.

    • Agree: renfro
    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  263. geokat62 says:

    Breaking news from Mexico. Love to get JG’s take on this provocative headline, How The Sinaloa Cartel Bested The Mexican Army:

    [MORE]

    In Mexico’s big cities, drug cartel gunmen normally act like phantoms. They hide in safe houses or amid communities, suddenly striking with an assassination or a gunfight, and then disappearing again. Residents know they are there and are scared, but most the time, they can’t see them.

    But on Thursday in the Sinaloan city of Culiacan, the cartel gunmen were everywhere. They openly drove in trucks with mounted machine guns, blockaded streets flashing their Kalashnikovs and burned trucks unleashing plumes of smoke like it was a scene in Syria. They took control of the strategic points in the metro area, shut down the airport, roads, and government buildings and exchanged fire with security forces for hours, leaving at least eight people dead. In contrast, everyone else had to act like ghosts, hiding behind locked doors, not daring to step outside.

    And in this unusual battle, the Sinaloa Cartel won. Their uprising was in response to soldiers storming a house on Thursday and arresting Ovidio Guzman, the 28-year old son of convicted kingpin Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman. In February, the U.S. Justice Department announced it had indicted Ovidio Guzman on trafficking cocaine, marijuana and meth. But after hours of cartel chaos, Mexico’s federal government gave soldiers the go ahead to release him. It capitulated.

    I’ve covered Mexico’s drug violence for 18 years, written two books about the subject, and seen many extraordinary episodes. In Sinaloa, the cradle of drug traffickers, I’ve repeatedly been on the crime beat chasing bullet-ridden corpses and into the mountains to Guzman’s opium-growing village. But Thursday was different. It wasn’t gangster action; it was a mass insurrection.

    “There was panic, terror, the city was under siege,” says Vladimir Ramirez, a political scientist in Culiacan, who like many has continued curfew into Friday. “People slept wherever they were at. Businesses are closed, nobody wants to go out.”

    This change has not come overnight. It is the result of a bloody trend of cartels developing insurgent tactics over many years. The use of burning vehicles to block roads was taken from militant protesters; cartels use it to stop the movement of troops and put pressure on the government. The cartels have armed up with stolen military weapons and an endless stream of rifles from the United States. Between 2007 and 2018, more than 150,000 firearms seized in Mexico were traced to U.S. gun shops and factories.And cartels from the Texas border to Guadalajara have learned to protect their leaders with rings of gunmen who can cause trouble to stop their capture.

    Yet it was still shocking on Thursday to see how fast the cartel moved and how brazenly the gunmen stayed on the streets. Residents took dozens of photos of the armed thugs that circulated on social media, amplifying the threat. And it was almost a side note that there was a simultaneous prison break in which 51 inmates fled.

    “The Sinaloa Cartel demonstrated a tremendous ability to mobilize rapidly and take effective control of the city,” says Raul Benitez, an expert on Latin America’s armed conflicts. “They showed that in Sinaloa, they are the ones who run things.”

    In contrast, the Mexican military was in shambles. Officials made contradictory and confusing statements about why the soldiers had gone to Guzman’s house without enough back up. In many points in the city, the cartel gunmen went unchallenged. There were reports that the cartel had held various soldiers hostage and threatened to kill them. And in these circumstances, it was best to let the suspect go, President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador said Friday.

    “You can’t fight fire with fire…We don’t want deaths. We don’t want war,” Lopez Obrador said in his morning press conference. “With justice, we will guarantee peace and tranquility in the country.”

    Lopez Obrador won power last year in a landslide election and still enjoys high approval ratings. His decision Thursday to avoid further bloodshed earned support from some. Ramirez, the political scientist in Culiacan, says that the gunmen in Culiacan were not attacking civilians but the menace was clear and they could have unleashed a bloodbath. “It was a threat of terrorism,” Ramirez says. “The government acted with great responsibility.”

    Others criticized Lopez Obrador for surrendering to criminals. “His idea of peace and love doesn’t work. He is making the cartel stronger,” Benitez says. “I don’t even know what his strategy is.”

    The worry now is that Mexican’s government’s decision to release Guzman sets a precedent. If other traffickers are arrested, their cohorts could kidnap people to demand their release. It also raises the specter of the cartel appearing more powerful than the army, which could have implications for governability. There has long been an image of traffickers as rebels and some in Sinaloa call them “valientes” or “brave ones.” Now it appears like these rebels are almost in control.

    This support for drug traffickers is reflected in songs known as narco corridos or drug ballads that celebrate their exploits. Following Thursday’s carnage, various songwriters quickly penned brand new lyrics about Ovidio Guzman and posted their verses online.

    “Rumors are heard, they are taking Ovidio Guzman. In the moment, there are mobilizations,” a singer croons in one, “The señor, they won’t take him prisoner. There is war and we’re going to fight.”

    https://time.com/5705358/sinaloa-cartel-mexico-culiacan/

  264. @geokat62

    geokat on Boston Globe Stephen Kinzer:
    “Begins in 1980, really? I think the roots of ME tragedy go much farther back than that, don’t you?”

    Above, yes, geo, absolutely, way back!
    And I confess to having gone off the deep end with acknowledging the patriotic Ray McGovern’s unconditional praise for Kinzer’s stilted article. I raise my right hand, no excuse; it’s me who didn’t get head trounced around by Capitol Police, as did Sugar Ray McGovern.

    Indeed, “he (Kinzer) makes it look as though Obama all by his lonesome self decided to sponsor a proxy war against Syria. Those dastardly neocons,” et al, “are nowhere to be seen.”

    (Gulp) Now, after that therapeutic taser shot, I don’t want to “be seen.” And unfortunately, I can’t blame liquor.🥴

    Well, geo, you quickly made me “well,” and ideally, others assembled here will also benefit from my gushing-rush to judgement. Thank you.

    • LOL: geokat62
  265. Z-man says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    A question.
    Would Iranian leaders at the time call both Imus & Senator McCain lesser appendages of “The Great Satan?”
    Thanks, Z!

    Chuck, I don’t care what the Iranians would’ve thought of an American entertainer like Imus at that time. Imus liked McCain but not McCain’s warmongering policies as he, Imus, lambasted Bush over Iraq.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  266. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Wowie Zowie! Tulsi has the Right Stuff. Bad move by HRC to make libelous smear. Tulsi should sue. Meanwhile, she’s not holding back: these are real tweets! (+Story in NYT.)

    Tulsi Gabbard -Verified account
    @TulsiGabbard 5 hours ago

    Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton. You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain. From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a …

    … concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and …

    … powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose.

    It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly.

  267. renfro says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    Trump was supported by the militant wing of Jews who want to move immediately to take all of Palestine and move the Palestine out.
    Hillary was supported by the liberal wing of Jews who want the ‘peace talks’ to continue forever while they wait for their ‘light unto the nations ‘ to become that Jewish shining light.

    Trump may have done us a favor by being so overtly pro Israel and thus making it more of a topic in the public….Hillary would have been much more covert with mountains of spin applied.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  268. renfro says:
    @Art

    From presidential candidate to junk yard bitch…..what a come down.
    And she cant blame Russia for her lack of graciousness in defeat.

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Art
  269. renfro says:

    Meet Gordon Sondland, the Holocaust survivors’ son whose testimony could get Trump impeached

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-meet-gordon-sondland-the-survivors-son-whose-testimony-could-get-trump-impeached-1.7994104

    What we could wonder about is what Trump would have been like as president if he hadn’t a zionist son in law and made his adm 90% Jewish.

  270. @Z-man

    Hey Z-nan!

    You definitely have the “right” to “not care” what Iranians thought about the great American broadcast entertainer & political common sense-purveyor, Don Imus, 👍especially because the Islamic Republic’s grand nemesis was Supremacist Amerikan Jew Senators, like for one example, Joe Lieberman.

    Fyr, linked below is a flashback “Imus In The Morning” interview with Joe Lieberman, who President Bonespur later considered for appointment as FBI Director.
    My sincere “thanks” for offering me such worthy blowback, Z!

    • Replies: @Z-man
  271. Z-man says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Lieberman, a most disgusting example of that disgusting race, Israeli firster and traitor to America.
    Imus was against the policies of ‘Joel’ and the rest of the Cabal while kissing his arse on air, typical of entertainers. He retired just in time!

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  272. Z-man says:
    @renfro

    Tulsi gave it back in spades. She was on with Tucker last night and pulled no punches against SHillary, who she described as a corrupt warmongerer. Go Tulsi!

    • Replies: @anon
  273. @Europe natonalist

    My own conclusion is that Americans are now evenly split on the Iraq war, and that the citizenry now seeing its pointlessness, stupidity, cruelty and expense is what makes our “leaders” hesitant about a war against Iran.

    But who knows? Miracles do happen, and we may live long enough to see Cheney, Bush and the neocon chorus clapped in irons and put on trial for crimes against humanity.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  274. @Counterinsurgency

    1] This impresses me as being highly unlikely, in the same category as the USSR’s dissolution in AD 1991 being a deception operation by the USSR (that was actually proposed)

  275. geokat62 says:

    Mark Collett recently gave a speech at The Scandza Forum in Copenhagen, Denmark

    Although it is half an hour long, I have provided below a transcript of the last few minutes (starting @ 23:27).

    I went through the trouble of doing so for the benefit of my American brethren who will soon once again be going to the polls.

    P.S. I’d appreciate it if the moderators refrained from deploying the more button. Thank you.

    [MORE]

    Thus, the internationalists [code word for Jewish Supremacists] have fashioned a system to do away with us… and they call it “Democracy.” And they tell us we have a choice. But every time we choose something they don’t like, every time we vote outside of their narrow list of options, they go berserk and they decry our choice as “populism”… because their system of democracy doesn’t present real choice, because it was never intended to present real choice. The so-called “liberal democracy” presents the ILLUSION of choice. Cause the key to all this is when you believe you are free, when you have the illusion of choice, you are much less likely to rebel. You’re less likely to try to break free from the cage that is being built around you. And wouldn’t that be the greatest kind of bondage, the greatest kind of cage… a prison where the inmates believed that they were in fact free and had a choice? And that’s the truth of the matter. The “Democracy” that is promoted by the media and the establishment [code words for Jewish Supremacists] is just another tool of control. Just another way of ensuring that those of European-descent will never be free. But amongst all the liberal doublespeak, amongst all the babble, there is one truth… our enemies [code word for Jewish Supremacists] do speak one truth… and that is that “populism” threatens their illusion of democracy. Populism threatens to wipe away their corrupt system and do away with the political prostitutes [code words for Traitorous Shabbos Goys] that rule over us. Populism threatens to set our people free. Because populism is the will of the people, not the will of the internationalists clique [code words for Jewish Supremacists]. And that begs a question: What is the will of the people? What is the will of our people? What do those of European-descent want? What do we want so much that the internationalists [code word for Jewish Supremacists] fear and hate so much? Well, we want the one thing that they will never accept… we want to exist, we want to prosper. We want to celebrate our culture, our traditions, and our heritage. We want a future in our ancestral homelands… and we want a future for our children. And the reason the internationalists and their puppet politicians [code words for Jewish Supremacists and their Traitorous Shabbos Goy] are making so much noise about populism is because they are scared. They’re scared that our people have started to stir, that our people are starting to speak up, and maybe you can hear it? It may have started as a whisper, as a murmur amongst the crowds. But the voice of the European people is getting louder and more and more of us are daring to stand up. More and more of us are ready to be heard. Ready to stand up against the establishment [code word for Jewish Supremacists] and dare to speak the words that are becoming the act of defiance of our age. And the popular will of our people, the act of defiance, the will of the European people, will soon be heard by all of these parasites and traitors [code words for Jewish Supremacists and their Traitorous Shabbos Goy]. Our people will come together. They’ll rise up as one. Not to ask for the scraps from the table. Not to beg for mercy. But to take back our destiny and to state clearly and unequivocally that we will NOT be replaced. Thank you.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  276. @Z-man

    Z-man emphasized: “Imus was against the policies of ‘Joel’ and the rest of the Cabal while kissing his arse on air, typical of entertainers. He retired just in time!”

    Yes, the Zion P.C. Police slammed Imus for insulting black girls while Jeffrey Epstein was unaccountably occupied with serial abuse of underage white girls.🙄

    Regarding Imus having featured Joe Lieberman on his popular entertaining show, at least he kept peppering the treasonous “Israeli Firster” with the unwanted question, ‘Well, what do you do if the US plan doesn’t work?”

    Haha. Like Stalin Soviets, Israel & the ZUS military misadventure-makers in the M.E. never make mistakes, they never fail.*
    In addition, their crystal clear boondoggles are often written off as either productive practice or victory. Of course, you will recall The Chosen One’s having proclaimed “victory” over ISIS in Syria.🥴

    * Referencing Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s book, “We never make mistakes.”

    Thanks & my respect, Z.

    • Replies: @Art
  277. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Z-man

    Yes, looks like Tulsi is a great counterpuncher.

  278. @geokat62

    Hey geokat,

    Am especially endeared to this truth, freshly reissued by Mark Collett: ”
    “The so-called “liberal democracy” presents the ILLUSION of choice. Cause the key to all this is when you believe you are free, when you have the illusion of choice, you are much less likely to rebel.”

    One problem though & dealing with the virtue of “populism,” geo, and where you which help me clarify. Mr. Collett articulated:
    “Populism threatens to wipe away their corrupt system and do away with the political prostitutes [code words for Traitorous Shabbos Goys] that rule over us. Populism threatens to set our people free. Because populism is the will of the people, not the will of the internationalists.”

    As you know, the uber-Likud Zionist President Trumpstein coopted “populism” as his political base’s “friend,” (zzZigh) when all the time, as Anthony Scaramucci insisted, while addressing a January 2017 Davos assembly, he proclaimed, “Donald J. Trump is the globalists last hope.”🥴

    Bottom line: The Shabbos goy tRump administration took a crack at converging populism with the will of globalists internationalism. Here in my purposely divided “Homeland,” it’s obvious that near 50% of tRump’s populist MAGA zealots, a.k.a., “The Deplorables,” cannot tell a globalist Israel Firster when they see one.

    So please inspect this comment for flaw, geo? Also, am disappointed by the fact your valuable comment # 279 got a behind-curtain assignment button, Moderator “More.” Nonetheless, don’t fret. The discoverers & translator team of The Rosetta Stone had to piece things together in order to crack the meaningful code.😏

    • Replies: @geokat62
  279. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Here in my purposely divided “Homeland,” it’s obvious that near 50% of tRump’s populist MAGA zealots, a.k.a., “The Deplorables,” cannot tell a globalist Israel Firster when they see one…

    So please inspect this comment for flaw, geo?

    100% Rodnoy brat geokat approved, Chuck!

    Also, am disappointed by the fact your valuable comment # 279 got a behind-curtain assignment button, Moderator “More.”

    Me too, Chuck. It took quick some time to transcribe that portion of his speech. Oh well, can’t blame me for trying.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  280. Hey geo!

    It is the Amerikan Zionist M.O. to co-opt apparent, but tricky good stuff, turn upon head🙃, and strive toward fulfilling their dastardly ends.

    Example is the simultaneous-Zionized joy & foreboding exhibited by the Zionist Corporate Media during tRump Amerika’s faux populism “Big Time” wave.

    Treasury Secretary Stephen Mnuchin 🇮🇱 was giddy during the administration’s launch of demands for getting fair trade treaties with China & Mexico, on behalf of the ‘Merikan people.😟 Come sanctions levied on terror state, Iran? Yippee. Mnuchin blew load in pants!

    Meanwhile, the Goldman Sachs Group whetted their tongues while Trumpstein tempted WWIII by sanctioning every country which dared resist the Goldman Sachs Group Zion will.

    It’s simply devilish; the reversal of “goodness” as a veil for further enriching greedy multi-billionaire Jews.😈
    Of course, all this awful shit transpires while intentionally worsening the lot of indebted, confounded, & restless American labor… uh, typically the employed “service” variant, (Zigh), less so the manufacturing sector which is now in “critical condition” and assigned to the resuscitating Zion morgue.

    Thanks, Rodnoy brat geo.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  281. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Thanks, Rodnoy brat geo.

    Hey, Chuck. Notwithstanding the fact that curiosity killed the kat, I just had to look up the word “rodnoy.”

    Given my limited knowledge of Russian, I need your help deciphering which of these translations you had in mind when choosing this term of endearment?

    Be honest with me, Chuck… even if you meant it in the “vulgar” sense, I won’t hold it against you. I promise, lol!

    [MORE]

    What does родной (rodnoy) mean in Russian?
    English Translation
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    native

    More meanings for родной (rodnoy)
    native adjective
    71% of use
    нативный, природный, местный, отечественный, естественный
    home adjective
    13% of use
    домашний, внутренний, отечественный, семейный, относящийся к метрополии
    own adjective
    11% of use
    собственный, свой собственный, любимый, оригинальный
    dear adjective
    5% of use
    дорогой, милый, любезный, любимый, миленький
    vernacular adjective
    rare
    народный, местный, общеупотребительный, свойственный данной местности, характерный для данной местности
    darling adjective
    rare
    дорогой, милый, любимый, миленький, прелестный
    natal adjective
    rare
    натальный, относящийся к рождению
    vulgar adjective
    rare
    вульгарный, пошлый, грубый, простонародный, народный
    whole adjective
    rare
    целый, весь, цельный, здоровый, непросеянный

    https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the-meaning-of/russian-word-6937fe33f9f504483d6c1c3ab8957517b2ba1390.html

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  282. @geokat62

    Hey geokat!

    The only Russian words I learned during childhood were curse words. Fyi, on Jackson Street, West Scranton, my late-Uncle Andy would take me for walks, and halfway, he’d pause for a boilermaker at The Lithuanian Club. A Russian guy, who was a regular, used to curse (in Russian) and laugh. Curious, I’d ask Uncle Andy, “what’s so funny?” His reply, “I don’t know and maybe that’s best, Chuck.”

    In summary, I know little Russian except that which I picked up while matriculating “Politics in the USSR,” ,”Russian history,” “19th Century Russian Literature,” and an accredited tutorial on the work of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.

    Below & fyr is a You Tube video explanation that suggests to say brother in Russian is “brat.” So “Rodnoy brat” means “rare brother,” and you fit into that higher distinction. Trust this helps, geo?

    P.S. As a child, I’d hear my Black Lung-stricken Scranton coal miner, & Poland born, grandfather (“Dziak” sp?) become upset occassionally, and curse his neighbor caretaker by calling her a “Schweenya.” My late-Father Charles explained it meant “pig.”😟 Haha. In English, she’d mutter, “he’s a fucking brat,” and then I’d ask my Dad what is a “fucking brat…?” blah, blah, blah.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
  283. Art says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Regarding Imus having featured Joe Lieberman on his popular entertaining show, at least he kept peppering the treasonous “Israeli Firster” with the unwanted question, ‘Well, what do you do if the US plan doesn’t work?”

    Hay Chuck,

    Has Joe Lieberman gone to hell yet? It is said that God (as added torment) gave the Jews their own section in hell. (Imagine having to spend eternity surrounded by Jews.) It is also said that He put Hitler in with them. Got to love God – what a guy.

    Art

    • LOL: geokat62, Z-man
    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
    , @Daniel Rich
  284. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    So “Rodnoy brat” means “rare brother,” and you fit into that higher distinction. Trust this helps, geo?

    Whoa… I’m humbled, Chuck!

    P.S. Thanks for sharing stories about your past, Chuck. I very much enjoy them, Rodnoy brat!

  285. Art says:
    @renfro

    From presidential candidate to junk yard bitch…..what a come down.
    And she cant blame Russia for her lack of graciousness in defeat.

    renfro,

    It is easy to see why Hillary lost to Trump – she is a very stupid politician. Even with Tulsi’s endless provocation, Trump has the political wisdom to not attack her by name.

    Every liberal publication has reported Hillary’s insane words, giving Gabbard a political boost, and making all Dem Party “Russia” charges look petty at best.

    Art

    p.s. Tulsi is already a big winner – her anti-regime-change message has won the day – all the Dem candidates and Trump are repeating it. Her message has won over the American voters. Bless her!

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @anon
  286. renfro says:
    @Art

    This last blast by Hillary has convinced me she is just as obsessed about herself as Trump is about himself.
    She is now all over the news calling Britain ‘racist’ because they are critical of Prince Harry’s half white half black wife.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  287. geokat62 says:

    A little sidebar I’d like to share with those who might be interested. I went for a stroll during my lunch break yesterday and walked into a local Indigo store to kill some time. I always enjoy going through the Big Ideas section to see if anything might catch my eye. Well, this time did not disappoint. I came across a title that stopped me dead in my tracks. It was a book recently released by Bari Weiss, How to Fight Anti-Semitism. I quickly perused the blurbs on both sides of the jacket cover and skimmed through the Table of Contents. My curiosity was piqued by Chapter 6: How to Fight.

    Well, before purchasing it, I thought I should do a little more research. That’s when I came across this video posted by Zionist Report 4, Is Donald Trump Good for the Jews? Bari Weiss Answers

    Description:

    In this clip from Overheard, journalist and author Bari Weiss argues that President Donald Trump is not ultimately a good president for the Jewish people…

    Oy vey, Trump isn’t bad for the Jews.
    Censorship against Anti-Semitism is ramping-up, Trump hired an Anti-Semitism czar (whose job is curtailing free speech), and his kids are all Jews. Bari is a leftist Jew who’s perogative is to keep liberal Goys in their place.

    In this very brief 2 min. interview, Bari manages to say things that simply blew me away.

    I transcribed the entire interview below for those who prefer the written word.

    [MORE]

    Host – Is Donald Trump good for the Jews?

    Bari Weiss – No!

    Host – Please explain.

    Bari Weiss – Let me explain… because there actually is more debate in the Jewish community than you would imagine… and the reason for that is that Donald Trump, if you look at some of his policies, they’ve been very, very good for the State of Israel… and I’m talking about, you know, the move finally the overdue move of the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, recognizing the Golan Heights as being part of Israel…

    Host – These were long time goals for many people in the community.

    Bari Weiss – Yeah! … and people beyond the Jewish community. People who don’t want to see the Golan Heights getting into the hands of Bashar Assad, for example.

    Host – Right.

    Bari Weiss – So, when it comes to those two policies, I’m in full-throated support of them. And so I think that could be confusing for people, because “how can Trump be bad for the Jews, if he’s good for Israel?” I’ll tell you how. Policies can be undone, as we know all too well. The thing that cannot be undone that Donald Trump is doing is renting apart the fabric of our civilization… and he’s doing it gleefully and willingly, and he is turning Americans one against the other. He is ratcheting up the divisions between us. He is trafficking in conspiracy theories… and as I just told you, anti-Semitism is the ultimate conspiracy theory. It’s why anti-semites were drawn to Trump’s banner. Because when he talks about the globalists and the elitists, keeping the working man down,what they hear is “Jew.”

    Host – Yeah, of course. But what you’re saying Bari is he’s not necessarily bad for the Jews so much as he’s bad for everybody. I mean I hear a broader critique.

    Bari Weiss – But to me those things are connected.

    Host – They are.

    Bari Weiss – And the reason for that and the reason why I ultimately wrote this book, is if you study history, at all, you see that societies that cannot protect their Jews are societies that are dead or dying. Societies where antisemitism thrives are societies that are on the wane. The reason for writing this book ultimately is not just because I care about the future of the Jewish people, which of course I do, it’s because I love this country. I love what it can stand for at its very best, despite its many flaws and warts. And we’re living through a particularly hard time. But, my appeal to people is that if you care about the future of this country, you need to care about putting down this virus, because the further it spreads, the more evidence it is that our society is in tremendous, tremendous danger.

    • Replies: @Art
  288. @Counterinsurgency

    I dunno what happened exactly, but clearly remember all polls declaring HRC the victor ahead of time [back then].

    I don’t vote, but those who did, elected Trump.

    The front companies [the anointed presidents] only need to reflect what is deemed to be the general consensus.

    The rest is $$$ gravy for the 0.001%

  289. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    When you’re up against Judaic forces, crossing fingers will result in them being broken.

    A bully doesn’t comprehend a polite conversation. S/he only understands brute force.

    The ME has Hezbollah and the SAA. What does the US have to counter balance this negative influence?

  290. @Art

    I was under the impression Adolf Hitler was standing on the shoulders of Joe Lieberman in a sewage canal in hell…

    So much for gossip.

  291. @Art

    Quote: “Hay Chuck.”

    Reply: are you sure you want to turn Chuck into something eatable?

    Why not enlighten the spirits and say, “High, Chuck!”

    Pass the spliff, my man.

    • LOL: ChuckOrloski, Art
  292. Bari Weiss said: “The thing that cannot be undone that Donald Trump is doing is renting apart the fabric of our civilization… and he’s doing it gleefully and willingly, and he is turning Americans one against the other.”

    Hey Rodnoy brat geokat!

    Above, what Weiss said is palatable.

    Nonetheless, from my perspective, and prior to the very divisive Obama & Trumpstein Zion administrations, I recall how incredibly divided was America during the XX-rated, haha, Clinton impeachment era.

    Fyi, I conclude that extra-national “fabric” destroyers, for example, Likud Ariel Sharon and Netanyahu, were ecstatic about the “Love/Hate Divide” which characterized a snookered nation on the brink of getting a 9/11 “Pearl Harbor” and followup GWOT.

    Subsequently, to serve as the ultimate Shabbos goy presidential “head” of the deliberately divided & clean air deprived pool of “fish…,” voila, enter stage right,💀 the charismatic & Don Rickles style “insult all your political Amerikan opponents” artist, Trumpstein.

    Now, the Supremacist Jews enjoy having, & in the gleeful & mocking words of President Trumpstein, a fractured Amerika on the brink of chaotic riots, civil war. W.T.F. is going on here?

    Well, it’s “Good night America,”* the levee is broke by Zio design, 😞 and even former-Dopey ZUS War President, G.W. Bush, is impressed & prompted to say, “Good job, Trumpy!”

    Thanks, geo. The book was a great find by a fine seeker! And may many good Paleface Spirits follow your path.

    * Credit to Philip Giraldi.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  293. Art says:
    @geokat62

    The Jewess, Bari Weiss’s words.

    The thing that cannot be undone that Donald Trump is doing is renting apart the fabric of our civilization… and he’s doing it gleefully and willingly, and he is turning Americans one against the other. He is ratcheting up the divisions between us. …. …. …. Societies where antisemitism thrives are societies that are on the wane.

    This poor Jewess is totally blind to reality. Her Jew elders, have warped her mind. It is Jews who are responsible for dividing America’s Western culture. It is the collective Jew media politics that has destroyed America’s society. We are at each other’s throats because of culture busting Jews.

    Clearly, societies become anti-Semitic as a result of destructive Jew behavior. Anti-Semitism is an inevitable rational defensive behavior.

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  294. @renfro

    Quote: “She is now all over the news calling Britain ‘racist’ because they are critical of Prince Harry’s half white half black wife.”

    Reply: And that begs the question, “Is a zebra a white animal with blacks stripes or a black animal with white stripes?”

    Yeehawwww!

  295. Art says:

    Ukrainian Who Raised Money for Schiff’s Campaign Received Lucrative Defense Contracts

    Opinion – If you’re wondering why the Democrat spin engineers, and Rep. Adam Schiff are apoplectic over Rudy Giuliani’s Ukraine investigation, it’s not because they’re concerned about protecting a corrupt ex-vice president and fading presidential candidate.

    Evidence is beginning to point to Ukraine as Democrats’ corruption central for money and election interference.

    (Fox News) House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, who has played a leading role in investigating the Trump-Ukraine scandal, is facing questions about his own connection to a Soviet-born businessman who has raised money for his campaign and whose company has received lucrative defense contracts from Ukraine’s government.

    https://www.dcclothesline.com/2019/10/07/ukrainian-who-raised-money-for-schiffs-campaign-received-lucrative-defense-contracts/

    Will AIPAC & the Jew MSM allow America to hear this?

  296. geokat62 says:

    I stumbled upon this old video in which Donald Trump made the following statements during his speech to the AIPAC policy conference in 2016.

    starting @ 23:27:

    “I love Israel. I’ve been with Israel so long in terms of — I’ve received some of my greatest honors from Israel. My father before me, incredible. My daughter, Ivanka, is about to have a beautiful Jewish baby.”

    • Replies: @Art
  297. @Art

    Insightfully, Art said: “It is the collective Jew media politics that has destroyed America’s society. We are at each other’s throats because of culture busting Jews.”

    Yes, Art, 👍, the “collective Jew.” Boo hoo.

    But most disturbingly, “culture” is a broad word, and a particular nation must have a worthy culture to attract parasitical Jews to settle, call home. (Zigh)
    The burgeoning USA slave labor trade-market & southern plantation implementation, and of course the perfect State of Union disunion😈was “good” culture-turf for Jews, as Ground Zero became for Israel.

    Supremacist (“collective”) Jews — in their past & present manifestation — destroy indigenous population preference for noble magnanimity, bust non-Talmud aligned moral codes, tear down Bill of Rights, (Zigh) & unholy fuck!…,
    one alive must never forget how contemporary Amerikans stand-down while greedy & cannibal Shabbos goy apparatchiks permit their paymasters 🇮🇱 to restructure (“Perestroika”) our “Homeland” to the present point ‘dat “We” is at — The Eve of Destruction.
    Will be a crime to miss it,🕵️ so enjoy the inevitable, irrational, & offensive gilded Jew misbehavior, underway? (Zigh)

    Thanks for your servus, & my respect, Art. Uh, wherefore art RobinG?

    P.S.: The worried & stressed Jewess, Bari Weiss, instinctively howled while many assembled here @ U.R. already knew how The Trumpstein Harvest Moon has a full Jew face.

    • Replies: @Art
  298. @ChuckOrloski

    Please allow me to help you a little bit.

    Rodnoy brat means paesano or countryman.
    Rodnoy (itself) means birthed.

  299. Art says:
    @geokat62

    “I love Israel. I’ve been with Israel so long in terms of — I’ve received some of my greatest honors from Israel. My father before me, incredible. My daughter, Ivanka, is about to have a beautiful Jewish baby.”

    Trump is a fool to think that Jews will back him up. Jews are leading the pack of his impeachment.

    Getting out of Syria makes Trump, enemy number one of AIPAC – period.

    • Replies: @anon
  300. Art says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Uh, wherefore art RobinG?

    Chuck — good question — I do not know — even though I felt her sting more than once – I miss her and her comments — Art

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  301. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    enter stage right,💀 the charismatic & Don Rickles style “insult all your political Amerikan opponents” artist, Trumpstein.

    Love it, Chuck!

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  302. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Trump may be shuffling some troops around, but he’s not yet “Getting out of Syria.”

    SYRIA: Buried in the US-Turkey ‘Ceasefire’ Deal Are More Seeds of Instability
    https://21stcenturywire.com/2019/10/18/syria-buried-in-us-turkey-ceasefire-deal-are-more-seeds-of-instability/

    Yesterday, the US and Turkey reached a supposed ‘ceasefire’ arrangement which will temporarily halt a Turkish military incursion and attack on Kurdish forces in Syria. The deal was apparently finalised after a face-to-face meeting between Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and US Vice President Mike Pence. While this engineered “pause” in fighting offers a temporary calm, the situation remains tense and fraught with endemic conditions that could lead a resumption of hostilities. Those conditions include the ulterior agendas of Turkey and the US which are sure to antagonise Damascus and its allies going forward. Reading between the lines, this latest US-brokered ‘peace plan’ still leaves the door open for long-range US regime change plans for Syria.

  303. FatPanda says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Lots of investigative journalists has figured out bits and pieces at how the Geopolitical struggle has morphed and what we have today. Only one, that I am aware, has made the ties and put it all together. Michael Collins Piper.

    “The High Priests of War”, and ‘The Judas Goats The enemy within” goes into good details

    Ralph Schoenman The Hidden History of Zionism has done a respectable job as well.

    https://marxists.org/history/etol/document/mideast/hidden/index.htm

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
  304. @Art

    Art knows not wherefore art RobinG. He magnaminously said: “— even though I felt her sting more than once – I miss her and her comments –”

    As you know, I am a veteran who was frequently on receiving end of RobinG’s stingers, but I recover and also miss my Lady’s otherwise valuable comment-participation.

    As you’re aware, Art, Hillary is a true blue Zionist puppet, and last week, she returned to the stage 🇮🇱and launched attack upon Tulsi and Stein. Haha.

    Ms. Gabbard apparently wants to “take back” the Democrat Party,👍& with special emphasis upon endless & stilted conduct of ME foreign policy,🇮🇱 Tulsi wants to return the forging & implementation of US foreign policy to liberal Democrats. 😏

    Nonetheless, Art, there is not a mere need to take back the zionized Democrat Party, ‘cuz desperately divided & flummoxed “Homelanders” need to take back the entire ZUS government.

    Ideally, RobinG ain’t surrendered, and she answers the noble U.R. commenter “Call of Duty” and appears here prior to AIPAC’s upcoming American downSpring, 2020.

    Thanks & my “paesano” respect, Bro Art.

  305. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Mayor BUTT-KISS Sucks Up to HRC

    Pete the Centrist was featured on Sunaday talk shows. He refused to criticize HRC libel of Tulsi. (She and Stein would have easy cases, if they weren’t public figures.)

    Pete the Butt-Kisser doubled down on Russian interference in 2016, implied that Tulsi a useful idiot. Is he the next DNC annointed, or just the wanna-be? Hilligula runs the machine from behind the curtain (as Tulsi said).

    • Replies: @geokat62
  306. geokat62 says:
    @anon

    Hilligula runs the machine from behind the curtain

    Hilligula is a puppet of those who run the machine from behind the curtain:

    Top Five Clinton Donors Are Jewish, Campaign Tally Shows

    Haim Saban, George Soros and others stand at the head of a list of wealthy donors who contributed mainly via super PACs.

    https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/top-five-clinton-donors-are-jewish-campaign-tally-shows-1.5453781

  307. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:

    Max Blumenthal on why Hillary Clinton smeared Tulsi Gabbard and Jill Stein

  308. @geokat62

    Hey geo! *

    Regarding Phil’s article-title suggestion to “Let’s see what he (Trump) does?” –linked below is an article which I ask you to consider & evaluate.

    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/10/19/609043/Israel-Syria-Turkey-US-Pompeo-Jerusalem-Post

    Evident Trumpstein’s talk about “ending” endless & costly ZUS wars is a howler,😂 as his administration persists to intensify war by Mossad’s trademark motto, “deception.”

    Consequently, Israel has unwritten carte blanche permission to attack any M.E. country of their choosing; with merely dead ender” & complaining anti-Semitic aftermath-opposition to deal with. 😞

    A question, geo. Since the Golden Horde conquest “hay days,” is this Jewish warmongering “convenience” unprecedented in history?

    Haha, (Zigh), doubtless, Bolthead is not missed as Pompeo picked up the slack.

    * Since Ilyana intervened, I have pulled out from using “Rodnoy brat, geo.” Nonetheless, I could redeploy such an offensive greeting at will. haha. 👍!

    • Replies: @geokat62
  309. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Only Elizabeth Warren has a good chance to beat Trump. …So I would assume that majority of women will be voting for her.

    Hey what’s wrong with Tulsi Gabbard? I still think it would be best if Trump had another terms to see what he can really do and perhaps Tulsi after that.

    • LOL: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  310. KenH says:
    @geokat62

    It’s hard to believe that Israeli Jews aren’t responding well to the enrichment that their diaspora brethren have forced upon Western nations via their wealth, power and influence. After all, to be Jewish is to be tolerant or so we are told.

    • Agree: geokat62
  311. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    … linked below is an article which I ask you to consider & evaluate.

    My pleasure , Chuck. I’ve reproduced a number of passages from the article along with my commentary following each one:

    1. “Israel has the fundamental right to engage in activity that ensures the security of its people. It’s at the very core of what nation states not only have the right to do but an obligation to do,” Pompeo told The Jerusalem Post in an exclusive interview.

    Here, let’s try revising that statement with one amendment and see how it sounds:

    “Germany has the fundamental right to engage in activity that ensures the security of its people. It’s at the very core of what nation states not only have the right to do but an obligation to do,” Hull told The Frankfurter Zeitung in an exclusive interview.

    Sounds pretty reasonable to me. What about you, Chuck?

    2. Israeli politicians are concerned that the US pullout from Syria will further strengthen Iran’s position as a regional power at a time when Damascus is eliminating the last remnants of terrorists and reasserting control over all the country. 

    Talk about crocodile tears. If they were so concerned about enhancing Iran’s position as a regional power, maybe taking out their number one opponent, Iraq, may not have been such a good idea, huh?

    3. “We view [Iran] as the fundamental destabilizing force inside the Middle East and we are determined to push back against that,” [Pompeo] said.

    Oh, Iran is the fundamental destabilizing force inside the Middle East, not the Zionist Project whose rabid supporters were keen on implementing the Oded Yinon Plan/A Clean Break strategy to remake the ME by regime changing those countries deemed hostile to the villa in the jungle in order to enhance it security and hegemony in the region? Yeah, right!

    4. The Arabic-language media outlets had reported in July that Washington planned to bring back a more dangerous version of Daesh to Iraq and Syria after its failure to achieve its goals in the region. 

    Of course. Why not bring another al Qaida affiliate in the region. It will surely promote the spread of democracy throughout the region. Just make sure you don’t send your loved ones on vacation there. They may lose a body part or two into the bargain!

    5. In his interview, Pompeo also touched on Trump’s decision two weeks ago to send additional troops to Saudi Arabia, citing alleged Iran threat as the reason. 

    Sounds like a splendid idea to me. What could possibly go wrong with America stationing troops in the land of the two holy places? I can’t think of anything. Can you, Chuck?

    A question, geo. Since the Golden Horde conquest “hay days,” is this Jewish warmongering “convenience” unprecedented in history?

    Great question, Chuck. Let’s see, Jewish Supremacists ascended to positions of power during the Bolshevik revolution and played a leading role in dismantling the Russian empire. They also ascended to positions of power during the Weimar Republic and played a leading role in dismantling the Third Reich. Relative to these two great powers, I think most would agree the United States sits astride the greatest empire the world has ever known. And to get a glimpse of the extent to which Jewish Supremacists have ascended to positions of power and the leading role they’re playing in dismantling it, I highly recommend viewing this recent video produced by Ryan Dawson of the Anti-Neocon Report, Trump’s Zionist Ball and Chain: God is not a Real Estate Agent:


    As he himself states in the video, he is merely scratching the surface when it comes to the level of perfidy wrought be these model citizens of America. It’s an incredible look into the swamp, Chuck. If you have the stomach for it, that is.

    Look forward to your feedback, Chuck.

    • Agree: Daniel Rich
  312. @geokat62

    My “feedback,” eh geokat? Here in West Scranton, I am overfed with Golden Calf bullshit & inured to it’s ever-the-victim fumes.🥴

    Nonetheless, from here, and 20/20, I can see NYC Real Estate mogul, Donald J. Drumpf, hard at The Syndicate of Satan work, & luxuriating in the Blue & White House’s Dead Oval swamp.

    Thanks, geo, for linking the explicit ball & chain, and R-rated video! * Fyi, as a profitable change from MSM’s constant delivery of punishment & pain, Ryan Dawson brought me an unexpected Capitol gain.

    * “R” rated as in Real Jew News, (RJN)

  313. As evidenced by your brilliant response to my comment on the Golden Horde’s unabated & possibly unopposed conquest east until it fizzled, I know you don’t need the VT video linked below, where a Syrian gal trys to reveal Israel’s plan against her “Homeland” and which matches Trumpstein’s working M.E. foreign policy model.

    Er, but others looming around might see Light.

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/10/19/israels-plan-against-syria-video/

  314. @geokat62

    Too many successive comments, geo, and suspect I might get the Moderator penalty whistle.

    But oh, what the hell, and since Dallas Cowboys are feasting upon my Eagles @ halftime, I’ll continue.

    Regarding Tru News of late, am disappointed how they seem to want life preserved in the flesh of President Trumpstein and kill the Zion Democrat & some Zion GOP-ers’ (ch)impeachment experiment. (Zigh), thanks geo.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  315. @Commentator Mike

    … it would be best if Trump had another terms…

    “term” not “terms”

    Yes LOL slip (subconscious maybe) indeed CO. Not looking that far ahead, with the constitutional rules and all that.

  316. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    kill the Zion Democrat & some Zion GOP-ers’ (ch)impeachment experiment.

    Speaking of Zion Democrats, Chuck… get a load of this:

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Z-man
  317. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @geokat62

    That’s a pic taken in 2017, Veterans at Standing Rock. This was not a pic of Antifa members. Duke is a member of both and wasn’t known as an Antifa leader at the time. Tulsi HAS denounced Antifa.

    https://rightedgemagazine.com/2019/08/20/democrats-were-asked-to-condemn-antifa-heres-what-they-said/

    Spreading misinformation isn’t a good look. Stop.

    h/t @Philosotheist

    • Replies: @geokat62
  318. @Cloak And Dagger

    I think hiring Bolton was just such a move – thinking that keeping his enemies closer would permit him more control.

    I don’t think it’s only Bolton who is the neocon here. Do you think appointment of Wilbur Ross, Mnuchin, Pompeo, Gina, Nikki, Abrams and many more is just because Trump wants to keep enemies closer so that he has more control? I think you’re missing a big point.

    His beloved daughter is married to a jew who calls all the shots. Bibi nuttyahoo named golan heights to Trump heights (the land that they stole). Don’t forget Trump got bailed out 4 times by the bankers. Whatever trump is doing is basically to justify his reelection … nothing else. He wants to get re-elected and then he will wage war against Iran.

    It serves us naught to take this pessimistic stance in the absence of a replacement candidate.

    Btw this is not a pessimistic view, this is a realistic viewpoint. The guy is a showman!

  319. Ahoy says:

    @ geokat62

    Hey geo, that picture of Tulsi is a rare find! My respect,

    When will Americans find out about controlled opposition?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  320. Z-man says:
    @geokat62

    Gents,
    Tulsi Gabbard is not exactly my cup of tea but in any war with SHillary she has my full support. She had major incoming from the shrill ex First Lady and she lobbed nuclear salvos right back at her. Nice going Tulsi!

  321. @Ahoy

    To geokat, Ahoy said: “Hey geo, that picture of Tulsi is a rare find! My respect,
    When will Americans find out about controlled opposition?”

    ahoy Ahoy, 👍!

    geokat is U.R. comments Chief Research Specialist with whom I summoned endless times to reach issue clarity.

    Linked below, a good Pat Buchanan article except for the fact that he would be better served by having geokat do the vetting on the real “controlled opposition” Democrat presidential candidate, Tulsi Gabbard. Thanks & my respect, Ahoy!

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/06/28/memo_to_trump_trade_bolton_for_tulsi_140667.html

  322. geokat62 says:
    @anon

    Apologies. I relied on the authority of a big name like Stephan Molyneaux to do his homework.

    After digging into this a bit, it appears Tulsi took this picture with some fellow veterans who were protesting the Dakota Access Pipeline:

    Important lesson for me is to be more cognizant of the fact that dirt is regularly being flung by both sides of the political divide to destroy people’s reputations.

  323. Hm.🤔 Did Elizabeth Warren intentionally scuttle her presidential ambition by thusly threatening The Land of Bilk & Money: “continue settlements, and no US aid to Israel.” Please refer to report linked belo

    Am wondering how uber-Zion “Hilligula” liked that? * Haha. (Zigh) Will she now settle into the 2020 “rat race,” and evict Zio-Dem frontrunner, Joe Biden?

    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/10/21/609171/No-aid-to-Israel-over-settlements-Warren-suggests

    * Am grateful for the wise & comical person who created “Hilligula.”

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  324. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:

    Big name for what? Stephan Molyneaux beat cancer or whatever, good for him and long life and health, etc., but he’s still a jerk.

  325. @ChuckOrloski

    I cannot understand Hilligula. I can only guess that there is connection to Dracula
    but in that case it should be Hillicula. That should be more appropriate because it would connect with Dracula, and also cul in french means posterior. Gula in Slavic languages means ball.

    • LOL: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @ChuckOrloski
  326. Z-man says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Hilli-cula! Good and funny.
    Satan, i.e., SHillary and so on…

  327. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Try “Caligula,” Ilyana? Fyi, “Hilligula” is the clever🤗 female adaptation.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  328. @ChuckOrloski

    But Hilligula plays 2nd fiddle…

    Or am I now mixing up my classics [Nerolary]?

    Where’s a canister with glue when you really need 1?

  329. Greetings, Daniel!

    I dig your “Nerolary.” Is catchy, 👍!

    How’s Hilla-Ben ghazi strike you?

    (Zigh) Okay, okay, above, was just a dream, corny, & so I came, I saw, and now I’m outta’ here.

    Thanks, Daniel! Continue to be unflappable.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  330. @ChuckOrloski

    Quote: “How’s Hilla-Ben ghazi strike you?”

    Reply: As a sequel to ‘Lawrence of Arabia.’

    • LOL: ChuckOrloski
  331. @ Chuck Orloski
    You are confused. (like always.)
    Caligula was excellent Roman Emperor. His assassination and reasons for his assassination were never explained. I do suspect that it was Jews who payed mercenaries for his assassination.
    And it was Jews that did smear his legacy. (Jews can do that you know!!!!!!!!!)

  332. Hi Ilyana!

    Reckon your rationality has decomposed?

    Fyi, someone else created the snarky & smearing nickname “”Hilligula.” Not me. Haha.

    At any rate, I wish you “all the best” during state’s of confusion! Thank you?

  333. @Wally

    Well, he has written a lot about Gabbard. You could ask him whether she’s his fave.

  334. @Cloak And Dagger

    “I think hiring Bolton was just such a move – thinking that keeping his enemies closer would permit him more control. ”

    That always seemed to me to be just a talking point issued by his neocon handlers to mollify the Trump supporters who were dismayed by his picks. ‘Keeping your enemies closer’ shouldn’t include handing them the gold key to the Executive men’s room.

  335. @Kolya Krassotkin

    Yes, Americans are split on the forever wars but given the state of the news media, the extent of the split isn’t easily discernible. If the self proclaimed leaders are hesitant to launch more wars, the split might well be more weighted in the direction of opposition to war.

    If the miracle happens, I would expect Bush’s lawyers to enter a non compos mentis plea for him.

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