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After months of rumors, John Bolton was finally fired from the White House but the post mortem on why it took so long to remove him continues, with the punditry and media trying to understand exactly what happened and why. Perhaps the most complete explanation for what occurred came from President Donald Trump himself shortly after the fact. He said, in some impromptu comments, that his national security advisor had israelisrael “…made some very big mistakes when he talked about the Libyan model for Kim Jong Un. That was not a good statement to make. You just take a look at what happened with Gadhafi. That was not a good statement to make. And it set us back.”

Trump has a point in that Bolton was clearly suggesting that North Korea get rid of its nuclear weapons in exchange for economic benefits, but it was the wrong example to pick as Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi gave up his weapons and was then ousted and brutally killed in a rebel uprising that was supported by Washington. The Bolton analogy, which may have been deliberate attempt to sabotage any rapprochement, made impossible any agreement between Kim and Trump as Kim received the message loud and clear that he might suffer the same fate.

More recently, Bolton might have been behind media leaks that scuttled Trump’s plan to meet with Taliban representatives and that also, acting on behalf of Israel, undercut a presidential suggestion that he might meet with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani. Trump summed up his disagreements with Bolton by saying that the National Security Advisor “wasn’t getting along” with other administration officials, adding that “Frankly he wanted to do things — not necessarily tougher than me. John’s known as a tough guy. He’s so tough he got us into Iraq. That’s tough. But he’s somebody that I actually had a very good relationship with, but he wasn’t getting along with people in the administration who I consider very important. And you know John wasn’t in line with what we were doing. And actually in some cases he thought it was too tough, what we were doing. Mr. Tough Guy.”

Trump’s final comment on Bolton was that “I’m sure he’ll do whatever he can do to spin it his way,” a throw-away line that could well set the stage for what comes next. Bolton has many supporters among hardliners in the GOP and the media and will no doubt be inclined to respond to the president in kind, but once the back and forth starts many other factors and relationships will come into play.

After the firing, it was widely believed that Donald Trump might have actually gotten rid of Bolton for all the right reasons, namely that as president he is disinclined to start any new wars and seeks negotiated solutions to existing conflicts, both of which concepts were no doubt regarded as anathema by the National Security Advisor. Unfortunately, that argument runs into problems where rhetoric and deeds disconnect if one considers actual actions undertaken by the president, to include the man that Trump has now named as Bolton’s replacement, Special Presidential Envoy for Hostage Affairs Robert O’Brien.

O’Brien might well have been ranked among the worst possible choices among the names floated in the media for the National Security Advisor position, mostly because he is almost completely lacking in actual experience related to the job. To be sure, he looks more presentable than the wild-eyed and walrus mustachioed Bolton, but Trump has repeatedly been overly deferential towards the bona fides of hardliners like O’Brien who boast of American Exceptionalism. The president will also likely appreciate that the sycophantic O’Brien’s lack of experience will mean that he will be completely deferential to the Chief Executive’s point of view at all times.

Trump’s cabinet choices have been so bad that they have led to musical chairs in nearly all senior positions. The president is to blame for having appointed Bolton, a man he disliked, though admittedly under orders from Israeli-American casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson, and he also did not have to elevate Mike Pompeo first as CIA Director and then as Secretary of State. There is no one around who outdoes Pompeo when it comes to avoiding diplomacy and negotiations while also threatening dire consequences for America’s “enemies.” O’Brien’s hardline credentials are largely indistinguishable from those of Pompeo and Bolton and it is widely believed that his appointment was due to advocacy by the Secretary of State, who is reportedly assembling his national security team.

And it should be observed that Trump’s claimed avoidance of war credentials are pretty thin. Far from fulfilling campaign promises to end the wars he inherited, Donald Trump has continued and even escalated those conflicts. He has withdrawn from agreements with Russia and Iran that enhanced US national security. Drone strikes under Trump have increased dramatically and have exceeded the number occurring during both of Obama’s terms, while new rules of engagement have led to a major increase in civilian casualties from US bombing directed against ISIS and the Taliban. Most recently in Afghanistan, 30 farm workers were killed in a drone strike. Trump is also doubling down on his support for the Saudi genocide against Yemen.

And the president has demonstrated that he is willing to attack countries that do not threaten the US and with which Washington is not at war. He has twice illegally bombed Syria based on phony intelligence and even when he decided at the last minute not to use force, as he did earlier this year with Iran, there was no serious evidence that he was truly seeking dialogue. He is waging “maximum pressure” economic warfare against both Iran and Venezuela, in both of which countries he has called for regime change. He has threatened Russia over Crimea and Ukraine and is in a trade war with China. Transparent regime change policies coupled with willy-nilly imposing of sanctions are destructive, hostile steps that kill people in the targeted countries and make enemies where none previously existed.

America’s new National Security Advisor Robert O’Brien recently featured in a taxpayer funded trip to Stockholm to obtain the release of rapper ASAP Rocky, who had been arrested after getting involved in a fist fight. O’Brien had orders to threaten unspecified retaliation against the Swedish government if it did not accede to White House demands. That exercise in international bullying means that O’Brien is quintessentially Trump’s kind of guy. He has written a book entitled While America Slept: Restoring American Leadership to a World in Crisis, calling on the United States to end any “appeasement and retreat,” and has described the nuclear agreement with Iran, in predictable neocon fashion, as a repeat of 1938, Hitler and Munich. He was Mitt Romney’s foreign policy adviser and is a Mormon, which means he basically lines up alongside the Christian Zionists when it comes to Israel.

The Israel Lobby has predictably welcomed O’Brien. Sandra Parker or Christians United for Israel (CUFI), enthused how “CUFI enjoys a close working relationship with many officials throughout the Trump Administration, and we look forward to working with Ambassador O’Brien on strengthening the US-Israel relationship, confronting the Iranian menace, and curtailing the threat posed by terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hezbollah.”

Mort Klein President of the Zionist Organization of America observed how “Mr. O’Brien is a great friend of Israel, and is now the top-ranking Mormon in the pro-Israel Trump administration. He is also best friends with ardent Zionist US Ambassador to Germany [Richard] Grenell … And you can’t be a great friend of evangelical Christian Grenell unless you support Israel.”

So, does the firing of John Bolton and replacement by Robert O’Brien mean that there will be a change of direction in US foreign policy? The answer has to be no. Trump might well be maneuvering to avoid a new war as he will be in full 2020 campaign mode and wants to avoid falling into a quagmire, but the basic belligerency of the administration and its strong tilt towards supporting feckless allies like Israel and Saudi Arabia is certain to continue.

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  1. As I posted some time ago, maybe, just maybe, Trump’s line of appointment disasters are by design. He has dragged out the whack jobs, and put them front and center, let them openly display their insanity to the point that even the MSM thinks they are nuts, then removes them.

    If Trump announced that he planned to implement all of the Democrat initiatives on health, education, and immigration, the MSM and the Democrats would still oppose him, so why not drag out the loonies and give them rope. Is there a better way to figure out how big the swamp is and draining it?

  2. Sean says:

    Trump has a point in that Bolton was clearly suggesting that North Korea get rid of its nuclear weapons in exchange for economic benefits, but it was the wrong example to pick as Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi gave up his weapons and was then ousted and brutally killed in a rebel uprising that was supported by Washington. The Bolton analogy, which may have been deliberate attempt to sabotage any rapprochement, made impossible any agreement between Kim and Trump as Kim received the message loud and clear that he might suffer the same fate.

    There is no possibility of North Korea being overthrown by US military force. America knows beyond all doubt that China would not stand for it. China gave Pakistan missile parts. Similarly, China is behind the sudden advances in North Korean nuclear missilisation and ICBM technology after Trump and trade war became China’s main problem.

    Bolton must have lost his mind. He should have been kept in his Middle Eastern affairs playpen where the stakes are much lower and because America is the only great power with vital interests (Israel) it can pay off (Egypt) or invade and conquer any country Israel does not like. North Korea and China is the big bad real world and fools like Bolton should be prevented from talking about it.

    • Replies: @Weaver1
  3. A123 says:

    Trump was using Bolton as Bad Cop, giving a view from one end of the spectrum. That allowed Trump to take the role of Good Cop by publicly disagreeing with Bolton. It is a tactic designed to force a positive news cycle out of the Fake Stream Media complex. The talking heads cannot cope with complexity, so Trump herded them by setting up a binary choice, “Trump is Right. Or, Bolton is Right.”

    O’Brien is the new Bad Cop for wrangling the Fake Stream Media. In return, he gets a seat at the table to make his case. While he may win a few battles here and there, he is unlikely to have a strong influence on Trump. The administration will continue to avoid putting large numbers of boots on the ground.
    ____

    Trump will continue to contain threats primarily with diplomatic and financial tools. After all this strategy is succeeding, albeit more slowly than desired. The financial squeeze on Iran’s government is working. The situation is so dire, the finance ministry is desperately flailing at a Weimar Republic inspired plan to redenominate their currency from Rial to Tomen. (1)

    Iran is planning to remove four zeros from the rial, taking its current official exchange rate with the U.S. dollar from 42,000 to the more palatable 4.2. … The official rate is meaningless on the street, however; in reality, the value of the rial is far less—this week, it was trading at 120,000 to the dollar on the black market.

    The people of Iran have been suffering under a repressive socialist theocracy for decades. Hopefully, they will take advantage of current events to grasp freedom by ending the rule of elitists like Ayatollah Khameni.

    PEACE 😇

    _____

    (1) https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/01/29/can-a-new-currency-end-tehrans-economic-woes-iran-rial-toman-redenomination-exchange-rates/

    • Replies: @Weaver1
  4. Lot says:

    that his national security advisor had israelisrael “…made some very big mistakes when he talked about the Libyan model

    This has got to be a Freudian typo that only Giraldi would israelisrael make. The way Cookie Monster randomly inserts “cookie” into the middle of his sentences.

  5. Weaver1 says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Trump needs money to get reelected, and he needs Congress to support his other agenda and to avoid impeachment. So, these two factors could explain some of his actions.

    He might also intend to get rewarded after serving, and he might also care for Israel, since some of his grandchildren are Jewish.

    He does appear to sincerely want to help Americans, as his trade actions demonstrate.

    A better way to “drain the swamp” would be to audit the Fed, appoint noninterventionists to important positions, and wield twitter to bring the American people to his side against Congress and the media, forcing Congress to support his agenda. We’ve already seen Dem Presidential candidates agree with Trump on trade. Regardless, as diverse as the US is today, it’s unlikely the swamp will ever be drained. Corruption is just part of diversity.

    Greed is one way to appeal to voters to defeat the interventionists. If Trump offered more free stuff as an alternative, he could get out of the empire business.

    I’m a nationalist; so my views differ from the author’s and perhaps from yours. The easiest explanation for Trump is that he believes in the US empire to some extent. The author seems not to understand trade policy, so it’s easy to believe Trump likewise doesn’t understand some aspect of politics.

  6. Weaver1 says:
    @Sean

    Some say peace with NK is unwanted by some in the US, because the current situation justifies a military and intelligence presence in SK. Also, SK is kept on the side of the US by the current situation. Unrelated, SK is bribed with the generous US trade policy.

    The claims are that money is made selling military aid to SK, US military expenditures are justified by the current situation, and the real purpose of the US in SK is to counter China.

    • Replies: @Sean
  7. Weaver1 says:
    @A123

    Why is it in US interests to have regime change in Iran?

    Iranians currently are told that any problems are to blamed on the US. So, current sanctions and other actions would seem to undermine regime change.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @A123
  8. Realist says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Is there a better way to figure out how big the swamp is and draining it?

    Another feeble attempt to absolve Trump from his membership in the Deep State.

    • Agree: Moi
  9. alexander says:

    Dear Phil,

    After 9-11 there was a clear mandate from the American people to bring the perpetrators of this horrific crime to justice.

    There was no mandate, ever, to start illegal wars of aggression against nations which never attacked us, and never intended to.

    The fact that the USA , under neocon tutelage, has jettisoned its own laws (and treaties) to initiate wars of aggression based on fraud , has proven to be the greatest catastrophe in US history.

    Our illegal (post 9-11) wars have not only tragically murdered millions of innocent people, they have all but exterminated the sovereign wealth of our nation in the process.

    Under Neocon tutelage, the USA has overspent what it has taken in, by a whopping 17 trillion dollars… in a mere 18 years.

    Shameful.

    As a consequence the USA is now saddled with 23 trillion dollars of debt based on war fraud and mass murder.

    It is absolutely heartbreaking.

    Just the idea that we have exploited our coveted position as the worlds reserve currency to commit illegal, unending acts of aggression around the globe is absolutely tragic.

    When I think that the Trump administration has chosen to walk down this exact same path, and cozy up to the exact same criminals who lied us into the Iraq war, it is equally heart breaking.

  10. “America’s new National Security Advisor Robert O’Brien recently featured in a taxpayer funded trip to Stockholm to obtain the release of rapper ASAP Rocky, who had been arrested after getting involved in a fist fight. O’Brien had orders to threaten unspecified retaliation against the Swedish government if it did not accede to White House demands.”

    every time I read about this, my brows furrow. my eyes squint and I think,

    “That’s nice, but so what.” (not as an inquisitive)

  11. Moi says:
    @Curmudgeon

    The uber whack-job is Trump.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  12. @Moi

    ” The uber wack job is Trump”

    Wrong totally, as the uber wackjob is in fact a brainless leftist moron known as : Moi, and his purple-haired lunatic comrades otherwise known as : Democrats.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet and pro jazz performer.

  13. @alexander

    “Wars of agression based on fraud”

    I’m sure you are including the Democrats who voted to engage in these wars of agression, or do they get a free pass such as always.

    AJM

    • Replies: @alexander
  14. “After 9-11 there was a clear mandate from the American people to bring the perpetrators of this horrific crime to justice.
    There was no mandate, ever, to start illegal wars of aggression against nations which never attacked us, and never intended to”

    I think the poll numbers tell a different story. They considered the response all part of the same —

    revenge.

    The US was rightfully or reasonable angry. And that anger also felt by the leadership – the US had sustained an unprovoked attack (in the minds of most) . Instead fo a leadership that framed the matter as a crime — which is exactly what it was — they saw opportunity to frame as war. And to be clear, it initially felt as such.

    • Replies: @Weaver1
  15. Weaver1 says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    EliteComm,

    I don’t mean to be snide, but 9/11 didn’t feel like war to me. It felt… inconsequential. And for years the argument was: “Invade-the-World; Invite-the-World.” Basically, we have to fight them over there, and then invite them here, because otherwise they wouldn’t have a motive and means to attack us.

    And as Pat Buchanan wrote, the US was somewhat justified in hitting Afghanistan, for hosting al Qaeda. So, the US could have just bombed the Afghans, then called things even. That would have been a sane response, even if not retaliating against precisely the correct enemy. Retaliating against enemies of al Qaeda, like Saddam and later Qaddafi and Assad, was just loony. The US almost openly allied itself with al Qaeda in Syria.

    (And now, the US aids Ukrainian “Nazis,” likely to use them to attack Europe, subsequently discrediting nationalist parties in Europe.)

    If there’s a mandate for war, the US ought to at least declare war. If the entire rest of the world is the enemy, then war should at least be declared. By Congress.

    • Replies: @anon
  16. alexander says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    No free pass, …….they are all equally guilty…

    The whole lot,….both sides of the aisle.

    Shameful.

  17. “I don’t mean to be snide, but 9/11 didn’t feel like war to me. It felt… inconsequential. And for years the argument was: “Invade-the-World; Invite-the-World.” Basically, we have to fight them over there, and then invite them here, because otherwise they wouldn’t have a motive and means to attack us.”

    In my view i hold the events of 9/11 as a criminal act. Since no state actors were involved it was an act of terror, in spite of the damage and loss. The Oklahoma City bombing was an act of terror, despite nits loose connections to the Phillipines Islamists. Had the matter been linked to a state, I would have a war lens on.

    But as it turns out a band of a small crew got lucky on a day when the simplest failures turned against us in the US. barring any clear evidence of the inside job so many claim is the case.

    And we should have responded accordingly. low foot print and incisive action, and if violation of national sovereignty was in order then small covert ops in conjunction with the FBI. My view is not popular, but it was far more strategically wise than invasion — that every mother’s son bends logic and ethics end over end to justify.
    ————————

    No. I think the president can respond to real time threats with acts of war without a declaration of war. As soon as it became clear that this was not a “real time” threat by any state actor —

    I think the expectations of the Afghan government were reasonable and we should have worked with them — barring that — my previous response is where i stand — law enforcement and covert ops if need be.

    In and out bing bang done.

    Laughing.

    I have yet heard a single sensical argument to justify the wisdom of sending an invading force (telegraphing the matter). If I am the target of said invasion, I am going to say thank you very much —

    see ya . . .

    And that is exactly what happened. So by the time the reported was finally intercepted, the matter was moot and anti-climactic.

    But we have put manged to get 3000 women into school over the dead bodies of 80,000 plus and twenty year mess of a slosh.

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  18. https://newrepublic.com/article/155168/real-costs-war-afghanistan

    https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians

    I am not one who thinks military intervention by definition is unwarranted. Clearly, my position on Vietnam make that clear, even there is little ROI on the face of it. But our efforts in Afghanistan — have been in error from the start.

  19. @Curmudgeon

    This is the same claim Trump supporters always drag out.

    It’s delusional.

    Just like the Democrats are afflicted with “Trump Derangement Syndrome”, his supporters are afflicted with “Trump Savior Syndrome.”

    They think Trump has some grand master plan to solve US foreign and domestic policy problems. This is usually because they approve of Trump’s immigration policies or Trump’s trade war with China or some other Trump policy they are more interested in than his foreign policy – which anyone with a brain can see is an unmitigated disaster.

    They also trot out the meme that Trump doesn’t want to lose the 2020 election, so he won’t start any more wars. They forget that the election is only 14 months away. What happens when it’s over? Trump no longer has to worry about the election then and can do whatever his endless supply of neocon advisers tell him to do.

    As for Trump being a “genius at making deals”, look up his history as a real estate developer. He had to be bailed out by *70 banks* – which was indeed an interesting feat – *after* he nearly went bankrupt. His real estate success was allowed by his inheriting his father’s wealth.

    Did everyone read the paragraph from his Ukraine conversation where he referenced CrowdStrike, the firm that “investigated” the alleged DNC “hack”? No one can figure out what he said because the paragraph is so disjointed and rambling that it reads like gibberish.

    This is a President who can’t even put two words together to make a sentence, for Christ’s sakes! He’s even worse than George Dubya in that respect! Much as I despised Obama, at least he could speak in full sentences.

    Trump’s supporters are indeed “deplorables” if they think Trump is going to save them from anything.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Precious
  20. Sean says:
    @Weaver1

    Unrelated, SK is bribed with the generous US trade policy.

    That’s a good one.

    http://www.unz.com/efingleton/north-korea-why-trump-should-kims-feet-to-the-fire/

    [T]his should top Trump’s agenda is that the North Korean nuclear distraction has long had unwelcome ramifications way beyond military policy. Repeatedly since the Clinton era, it has cramped Washington’s style on international trade, for instance. And trade, of course, is absolutely central to the new administration’s program.

    It is fair to say that all the more important East Asian nations have a vested interest in exaggerating the North Korean threat. The more terrifying North Korea is made to appear, the more desperately Washington will seek out advice and help from China, Japan, and South Korea. That tends to ensure that trade talks with these mercantilist nations are consigned to the backburner.

    China is not going to give up their leverage, and no Chinese government could ever allow an invasion of North Korea from the South. America would never try that again anyway

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  21. Sean says:
    @Weaver1

    Eventually Iran is going to get a nuke, but they cannot be trusted with one. This is a country that is filmed planting limpet mines on passing tankers and denies it. Supposing they secretly gave terrorists a nuke? For now Iran is still more of a nuisance than anything. The talks with China are vital and Bolton played into their hands .

    http://www.unz.com/efingleton/north-korea-why-trump-should-kims-feet-to-the-fire/

    At times of tension, Pentagon officials inevitably take charge. As the East Asians have gleefully realized for generations, the Pentagon is a remarkably soft touch on trade, and in return for the merest hortatory support for its military objectives will pull the rug from under the most carefully conceived plans drawn up elsewhere in Washington to get East Asia to open up.

    China must be stopped economically and quick if the US is not to being dwarfed by a megapower. The deepest level of the US, the American nation as a whole realized that, and hopefully and the military will catch up with Trump voters and cease pursuing their own sectarian special interests.

    • Replies: @Weaver1
  22. Fred777 says:

    Could Obama speak in full sentences? I only remember a serious of pseudo intellectual “ums” and “ahs” sprinkled liberally throughout his pablum.

    • Replies: @Mork D
  23. @Curmudgeon

    You are missing the big picture like most.

    Trump might well be maneuvering to avoid a new war as he will be in full 2020 campaign mode and wants to avoid falling into a quagmire, but the basic belligerency of the administration and its strong tilt towards supporting feckless allies like Israel and Saudi Arabia is certain to continue.

    El Trumpo is just less dumber than Dubya.

  24. Paul says:

    Are Mormons into the end times wackiness like the Christian fundamentalists are?

  25. “Trump Savior Syndrome.”

    I have no idea who created this myth. But my support had nothing to do with the president as some kind of savior. There were far too many areas on disagreement going in, for him to hold that station with me.

    But he was tasked

    with curtailing immigration – thus far a failure

    restoring main employment opportunities by changing several policies — here its a mixed bag.

    not merely stagnate intervention, but withdrawing the US from the needless and careless adventures she engaged previously — thus far on the numbers not much of any real progress

    begin a process to revitalize cities — I may have missed something, but to date little or no progress

    reassess our economic policies – i.e., NAFTA, nothing suggests it has benefitted US citizens on the whole.

    Aside from Supreme court nominations — mixed bah is not enough.

    ————————————

    He has stood up to democrats but that has primarily been to hos own benefit and that of insiders —

    Not mentioned is the over burdened military — and the constant recycling missions overseas, that remains, though not part of the campaign, it would be expected the changes would provided some relief.

    And despite his support from many who would have preferred other choices — he continues to openly make issues such same sex relations an open part of his platform, while the primary issues on the table are needed to apply some benefit to main street. The history is that population not adds little to overall, actually nothing, they have rarely been barred from from traditional means of national protections. Yet have been major participants or destroying traditional pillars that made the country and done so by pulling an Elizabeth Warren for forty years.

    And if no candidate comes along who will make those cases, the sad truth is hje remain the most viable.

  26. Mork D says:

    “…but Trump has repeatedly been overly deferential towards the bona fides of hardliners like O’Brien who boast of American Exceptionalism.”

    What do you think Trump means when he says, America First? Or more importantly, what do you think his hard-core base thinks when he says that, while wearing his USA ballcap, or his MAGA hat? Simple – America is Exceptional, America is the Best. Trump loves his superlatives, and Trump IS an American Exceptionalist, or at least plays that tune to rile up his faux-patriotic base (the America Does No Wrong base.)

  27. Mork D says:
    @Curmudgeon

    Here we can use Occam’s Razor – which is the simpler explanation?

    a) Trump, with no experience in DC politics, is trying to root out the neo-cons and warmongers (the SWAMP!) by seeking out the best examples and placing them in jobs with great prominence and power so that they may trip over their own feet and be exposed as the cancer in the American political system that they are, or

    b) Trump, a trust fund kid who was handed money and a NY property business right at the moment when NY real estate was going through the roof, has no experience actually running a large organization or taking responsibility for any decisions he’s made, has little to no idea what he’s doing, and lets other people (the SWAMP!) make decisions for him.

    My money’s on the fact that he loves the attention he gets being President, but doesn’t actually feel like doing any of the hard work involved in being a successful President. He knows how to rile his base, that’s about it. He’s clearly not ‘working on another level’ or anything, because we’re three years in, and he’s still accomplished very little besides placing tariffs on China, and threatening NK, Afghanistan, Iran, and Venezuela with utter destruction.

  28. Mork D says:
    @Fred777

    Obama was (is) an eloquent speaker. That worked out very well for him, he was quite the salesman!

    Especially when compared to the random word salad Trump gushes (have you ever tried to read an actual word-for-word transcript of a Trump “speech?” It sounds like a 3AM infomercial when you’re half asleep.) GW Bush was no shining light when he tried to speechify, either. But he didn’t have to, his daddy and granddaddy were both extremely connected politicians.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    , @anon
  29. KenH says:
    @Curmudgeon

    IOW, Trump is playing 4D chess with the Deep State but I think that excuse wore thin in 2018 and isn’t accepted by any of his former supporters who still have a functioning brain.

  30. KenH says:

    This disquieting part was Trump claiming that Bolton’s presence actually restrained him on foreign policy. If Bolton was supposedly a voice of restraint and non-intervention in the room then that’s scary. Neocons and liberal interventionists have all the bases covered in the swamp.

    I do think if Trump wins re-election you will finally see military action against Iran. The only thing keeping Trump somewhat honest on his campaign promise of no new wars is re-election but in his second term he won’t have to worry about that.

    If Trump gets us involved in another Middle East quagmire in his second term then it will blow up Republican party perhaps for all time and Democrats will finally get their one party authoritarian state (based on far left wing ideology) in 2024.

  31. @Mork D

    ” Obama was (is) an eloquent speaker”

    Bullshit, his singular area of “communication” being nothing more than Democrat party line, and “I am a victim” lamentation, of course for you as a leftist moron you view his vacuous, shallow, overflowing with platitudes charlatanism as “eloquence”.

    AJM “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz artist.

  32. A123 says:
    @Weaver1

    Why is it in US interests to have regime change in Iran?

    The Ayatollahs of Iran are responsible for:
    — Building nuclear weapons
    — Developing ballistic missiles
    — Used Iranian al’Hezbollah to undermine the legitimate government of Lebanon
    — Infiltrating Syria in an attempt to repeat what they did in Lebanon
    — Funding acts of terror around the globe
    And, this is only a partial list of Iranian destabilization of the region and the world.

    Do you really want a nuclear arms race among Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey (at a minimum)? If so, George Soros and his buddies in the Military Industrial Complex would like to thank you.

    Iranians currently are told that any problems are to blamed on the US. So, current sanctions and other actions would seem to undermine regime change.

    The Iranian people got rid of the Shah in the 70’s when he controlled all of the local media. Now cellphones, satellite TV, and the internet are common.

    Are you suggesting that the Iranian people are less informed than they were during the 70’s?

    I am sure that Ayatollah Khameni is trying to avoid responsibility for his failures, but there is no reason to believe that blame shifting is working.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Weaver1
  33. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    South Korea’s largest trading partner is China, which accounts for more than a quarter of its total exports. SK exports more than twice as much to China as it does to the US.

    SK generally has good relations with China, unlike with Japan. Furthermore, a non-trivial amount of the SK Left is pro-North Korea and anti-US.

    The US absolutely has to bribe SK to maintain its NE Asian beachhead in SK. Otherwise, SK would inevitably and willingly be a part of the Sinosphere, like it always has been.

    • Replies: @Sean
  34. alexander says:

    Dear Phil,

    In the year 2000 the USA had a GDP of 9.8 Trillion,and a national debt of 5.6 trillion .

    Our government was actually running a fiscal surplus of about 180 billion per year.

    As the most rudimentary indicators of the economic health of a nation…these numbers are quite good.
    Our debt to GDP ratio was about half ,.and our economy , as well as our military, were the most robust on earth.

    When you couple these elements with a proud , free, and creative electorate…and a charter like our constitution to guide their way, you will find the strongest of reasons WHY the world chose “our” dollar..as its reserve currency.

    It was literally worth more than gold……

    Then, post 9-11, the “neocons” took over the shop , and everything changed . Everything we know and loved was taken away.

    Our constitution,
    Our bill of rights,
    Our privacy,
    Our fidelity to international treaties,
    Our actual ability to be free individuals was now subjugated to the demands of our new “neocon” superstate…and its agenda for world domination.

    Most crucially, our solemn recognition that war of aggression is a crime ….. vanished in the wind.

    Once the Neocons took over the shop, they transformed all the wealth and strength we had created for ourselves, into a titanic engine of belligerence, deception and graft.

    The United States as we knew it, metamorphosed into an Empire of Fraud , systemic greed, and perpetual war.

    Lying about everything that was happening, and everything our Empire was doing ( in our name), became a prerequisite for proper social discourse.

    What has been lied about, most profoundly and most repeatedly,(aside from the most tragic number of innocent deaths) is just how much taxpayer money these stewards of empire have pocketed for themselves in all their (post -illegal) war making.

    There is a very real reason why our pentagon, despite all the attempts at an audit last year, failed time and time again, to deliver clean numbers …..and that reason is…..They don’t want you to know .

    What we do know , for a fact, is that our Pentagon has spent 21 trillion taxpayer dollars since 2000.

    At my best guess , over half of that 21 trillion has been borrowed from future generations of taxpayers…and consequently, rolled into our debt.

    The first inkling ( I had) at the sheer levels of graft and larceny going on , occurred when I came across a Vanity Fair article in 2006 , on the Iraq war.

    It pulled back the curtain, just bit, on the neocon pilfering of taxpayer wealth which ( I now believe) was at the core of this invasion….

    A Lieutenant Colonel, who was interviewed, said everywhere it was “fraud a go -go”. The article cited a situation where KBR Halliburton , who was contracted to feed 8000 troops per day, was “actually” billing out to the taxpayer for feeding 40,000 .

    Think about that for a minute…..at a hundred bucks a day, per soldier, breakfast lunch and dinner, that comes out to $4,000,000 per day of which $3,200,000 went right into the pockets of our KBR neocons overlords ….the ones who lied us into the war (in the first place).

    Every ten days…that’ s $32,000,000…and every hundred days..its 320 million dollars, right into their pockets , for 32,000 “phantom” soldiers who …never… existed …..at all.

    This is perhaps the truest reason of all , for all these perpetual wars……the un-audited, un -checked larceny of our tax dollars.

    This is the real reason,( which no one talks about ) why our national debt has exploded to 23 trillion dollars in a mere 18 years, whereas our GDP, in the same time frame, has only grown to 21 trillion.

    All that “overspending” has not gone into building “out” our economy……it is being STOLEN .

    “Hand over fist.”

    Our national solvency has been plundered, almost to extermination, by our post 9-11 neocon empire.

    It is as shameful as it is tragic.

  35. Sean says:
    @Anonymous

    The Chinese goods hollowing out the productive capacity of America contain many (Japanese and) South Korean parts. Hence, the growth of Chinese productive capacity relative to the US by economic conquest and technology transfer. Hence, South Korea (and Japan) already is inevitably and willingly a part of the Sinosphere, which is reducing the military superiority of America by the day.

    Last time America tried to invade the north it got into a war with China that it had to threaten the use of atomic weapons to get out of, and there is no doubt that is a minimum of what would happen if they made the same massive intelligence failure again. It may be considered an outpost but there is no way on Earth to cogently describe South Korea as a “beachhead”. Beachheads are for mounting invasions from. and anyone who even dreamt of invading North Korea as a real option has lost their mind. This is why Bolton was sacked for talking about it.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/01/south-korea-trade-july-exports-fall-amid-us-china-trade-war-japan-curb.html

    “The July data failed to provide any indication of improvement in exports for the short run as semiconductor sales and exports to China continue to suffer,” said Park Sang-hyun, economist at Hi Investment & Securities.

    The semiconductors in North Korean missiles come from South Korea and Japan. The vast strides the North Koreans made recently in getting their nukes into a missile, and making ICBMs are probably down to China helping them with key technology, but staying in the background. It is known that China gave Pakistan missile parts.

    America could never withdraw from the South, Thus both North and South North Korea have the US over a barrel. because Kim can defy America in complete security and there is absolutely nothing that America can do about it. The South (and Japan) loves Kim in the North making noises because this gives them a way to prevent America doing anything about the mercantilist trade policies of South Korea that are subsidised by them getting defended from the North and China by America for virtually free. Japan too.

    The Pentagon and North Korea specialists in State would say anything that might destabilize the South Korean economy would risk provoking Kim into something crazy like an invasion. Koreans are highly skilled at pursuing their own advantage while playing off the big powers against one another. In a nutshell: Trump was elected to rebalance the relationship away from local military considerations and slow down the accelerating economic and technological catching up with America that China has been doing. It’s a pretty tall order.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  36. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Weaver1

    “…the US was somewhat justified in hitting Afghanistan….”

    No, not even somewhat justified. Perhaps you’ve forgotten that the Afghans offered to hand over Bin Laden if the US provided evidence of guilt, but Bush refused. War and occupation were apparently always the intention.

    • Replies: @Weaver1
  37. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Richard Steven Hack

    his supporters are afflicted with “Trump Savior Syndrome.”

    That’s the Q-Anon cult. “Trust the plan!”

    OTOH … “Did everyone read the paragraph from his Ukraine conversation where he referenced CrowdStrike, the firm that “investigated” the alleged DNC “hack”? No one can figure out what he said because the paragraph is so disjointed and rambling that it reads like gibberish.” ….. Maybe you’re just not versed in the Ukraine/DNC interference in the 2016 election.

  38. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mork D

    (have you ever tried to read an actual word-for-word transcript of a Trump “speech?” It sounds like a 3AM infomercial when you’re half asleep.)

    This is irrelevant. He’s a perfect communicator. Listen to one of his rallies. (They’re o CSPAN all the time.) He makes perfect sense. OTOH, his monotone delivery of scripted speeches (like at the UN) will be entirely coherent when you read them.

    I’m no Trump fan, but when people make childish attacks, I become one.

  39. Weaver1 says:
    @Sean

    Sean,

    we’ve been told that Iran is near to obtaining a nuke for years. Israel and Pakistan already have nukes. Turkey seems to be pursuing them. Iran would only use nukes against Israel, and Israel would just use nukes back. MAD would seem to protect the both.

    The real conflict there seems to be over regional supremacy: Israel vs. Iran. Why does that matter to the US?

    China has been a concern for years. US trade policy built China. However, if the Chinese economy were to surpass the US economy, it’s really not a big deal. The US can still defend itself, and that’s all that matters. The US government should simply aim to ensure a high quality of life for current American citizens. The US is already large enough that no one could ever possibly pose a threat. Trade protections would greatly hinder China’s rise, but no one wants to return to Calvin Coolidge – because empire.

    Internal problems are the real threat to the US. The US imports new citizens annually, presumably in order to build up its economy to match China’s potential. However, this will just lead to corruption and possibly a breakup. Also, China can easily send Chinese nationalists into the US to steal US tech. Chinese can be loyal to China while citizens of the US, and the US has no defence against that other than spying on every American and moving to an Orwellian police state.

    Parts of the military want to end some of the conflicts, bring troops home. I dunno the politics there. Military spending currently seems to serve its own end, not the US as a whole. Yemen suggests large military spending doesn’t equal strength.

  40. Weaver1 says:
    @A123

    A123,

    Turkey is already pursuing nukes. It’s likely Israel’s possession of nukes that is motivating Turkey.

    Americans have media access and are likely less well-informed than most Iranians. America’s media under Trump seems to embrace its role as Orwellian propaganda.

    Iran was empowered by the removal of Saddam. Israel wanted it at the time, though the result was obvious and predicted at the time. Oops.

    It’s the Saudis who fund terror around the world. Iran is only focused on the Shia crescent. Iran is a regional opponent of Israel, both wanting supremacy. Iran would likely have changed governments by now were it not for Israeli and US antagonism which just makes the current government more popular. Most Iranians seem more secular than their government.

    Iranian influence in Syria is much better than Saudi etc. ISIS and al Qaeda are insane. Secular Assad is much better. I simply do not like al Qaeda after 9/11, but that’s my opinion, and the US was almost open about allying with al Qaeda, under Obama, in Syria.

    If al Qaeda were allowed to come to power in Syria, they’d exterminate all of the minorities, any who disagree with them. That would be very bad. It’s better to keep a secular ruler in power in Syria who is allied with minorities, including Christians.

    The real war in Syria is over Israeli expansion into Syria, with Turkey also wanting a piece. However, I believe Israel shouldn’t expand into the last secular state. Secular is good, especially for Christians. Israel should try to conquer another neighbor instead.

    It’s not the Iranians who removed Qaddafi. Obama really encouraged terrorism and even slavery with that act.

    The real issue here is Israel and Israeli expansion. The other matters are just smoke. Israel will be fine without US involvement in the region, and Israel doesn’t need to expand to survive. Too many trillions have been spent. The US simply needs to return home and rebuild America.

    I’m in favor of paying off Israel. The US could just send $300 billion to Israel in annual tribute. In exchange, we would rebuild the US military for defense and bring all US troops home. Israel could then expand as it wants, fight its own wars.

    I’m also in favor of ending Muslim immigration into the US and Europe. France has nukes, and immigration could turn France Muslim. I will never convert to Islam.

    • Replies: @A123
  41. Weaver1 says:
    @anon

    Anon,

    democracies demand blood. It’s a myth that democracies don’t like war. The US was attacked and needed an enemy. Afghanistan provided that enemy. Democracy is like dealing with an angry mob.

    I liked Buchanan’s recommendation: Hit Afghanistan; call it a day. That’s much better than the current failed, and expensive, occupation. While occupation might have been the intention, it could not possibly serve actual US interests. The costs have just been too high. No theoretical gain from Afghanistan could justify the costs.

    • Replies: @anon
  42. alexander says:

    I always laugh when people try to compare our fraudulent neocon empire with the (post -Republic )Roman empire of 200 AD.

    Rome would send out its armies to conquer and capture , taking in lands , resources, and spoils a thousand times more valuable than the cost of the expedition itself.

    Under neocon tutelage, our illegal wars of aggression have done the “exact” opposite …They have ended up extracting from the nation and the taxpayer , TRILLIONS of times more the than they have ever returned home to US !

    Just look at our balance sheet, to see if everything I say is not absolutely true .

    Look at it !

    It is a heinous nightmare of fathomless , treasonous , anti-American debt .

    Under neocon tutelage, our wars have been “designed” to extract and exterminate every single ounce of solvency “we have” as a nation.

    They are the greatest, most sustained assault on our posterity , our country has ever known.

    These malignant policies have all but destroyed the economic fabric, and future of the nation.

    The American people rose up and voted thumbs down to our corrupt and pilfering establishment, …. They asked Donald Trump (the one true outsider ) to step in and take decisive action….. to save our nation from the imperilment of these policies …and drain the swamp of the treasonous parasites who designed them…..

    And what has he done ?

    JACK …FUCKING….. SQUAT !

    • Replies: @Precious
  43. Well, looks like our military superiority (barring nuclear) is about to end. Our credibility is already in the toilet.

    https://theduran.com/three-saudi-brigades-annihilated-in-devastating-houthi-offensive-in-saudi-arabia/

    This is a triple checkmate for the Houthis against Riyadh. Firstly, they showed that they had enough local support within Saudi Arabia to have ready internal saboteurs in the event of an all-out war with Iran or Yemen. Then they showed they have the capacity to cripple Saudi Arabia’s oil production. Ultimately, Yemen’s conventional forces could redraw the boundaries between Saudi Arabia and Yemen in the latter’s favor should Yemeni leaders decide to invade and occupy a strip of Saudi territory to secure a buffer zone, given that Saudi forces have been violating Yemen’s sovereignty and massacring civilians willy nilly for the last five years.

    It bears reflecting on the significance of these events. The third-biggest arms spender in the world is incapable of defeating the poorest Arab country in the world. It is, moreover, incapable of protecting its national interest and borders from this impoverished Arab country. The Houthis are showing to the world what a poor but organized and motivated armed force can do using asymmetrical methods to bring one of the best-equipped militaries in the world to its knees. This conflict will be studied all over the world as an example of how a new means of warfare is possible when technological and cyber capabilities are democratized and available to those who know how to use them appropriately, as the Houthis have shown with their use of drones and electronic warfare.

    With the Houthis enjoying a high level of leverage, through a combination of missile capabilities, the holding of many prisoners of war, and saboteurs spread throughout Saudi Arabia (apropos, a strange fire occurred in Jeddah on Sunday at the Al-Haramain railway station), it may be time for Riyadh to accept the tragic consequences of this useless war and sit down at the negotiating table with Ansarullah.

    Washington and Tel Aviv will try in every way to prevent such negotiations. But if Mohammed bin Salman and his family wish to save their kingdom, it is better to start talking to the Houthis immediately. Otherwise it is only a matter of time before another attack by Ansarullah leads to the complete collapse and ruin of the House of Saud and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

    Be warned, Israel. You are next.

  44. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Weaver1

    While occupation might have been the intention, it could not possibly serve actual US interests. —- You presume to know what the Deep State interests are? Or even “actual US interests.”

    I liked Buchanan’s recommendation: Hit Afghanistan; call it a day. (Didn’t Bill Clinton do that?) So you’re an accommodating ethicsless shit as well. Good to know.

  45. @alexander

    Let me give you an example – When some parasites take hold of a host, they go not for the jugular like the tiger or the lion but for the neural nodes and control the behavior of the host.
    The beauty of this strategy is that the parasite is hard to dislodge and uses the host for its own benefit.

  46. @EliteCommInc.

    Spin it as you like, I can spot a diversion before it’s even set.

  47. A123 says:
    @Weaver1

    Turkey is already pursuing nukes.

    Turkey wants to reduce their dependency on hydrocarbon imports, so they have been pursuing nuclear power. I have seen little evidence to support Turkey developing weapons. Power plants typically use -3% enriched Uranium. Once the 5%+ barrier is broken in significant quantity, that is a clear indication of bomb making intent.

    It’s the Saudis who fund terror around the world.

    Former Saudi leaders pushed Wahhabi doctrine and the Muslim Terrorist Brotherhood. The current Saudi administration has cut these groups off from new funding. Right now the #1 source of funding for terror is Iran.

    Iran is only focused on the Shia crescent.

    The crescent seems to be growing. It now includes Yemen. How big is the Iranian crescent going to get? The Ayatollah’s ambitions seem rather globe shaped.

    If al Qaeda were allowed to come to power in Syria, they’d exterminate all of the minorities, any who disagree with them. That would be very bad. It’s better to keep a secular ruler in power in Syria who is allied with minorities, including Christians.

    In this case, al Qaeda and Iranian al’Hezbollah have similar ambitions. If the theocracy of Iran establishes a permanent beach head in Syria, secular governance is doomed. Iranian al’Hezbollah already undermined the secular government in Lebanon, so their intentions for Syria are quite clear.

    The real issue here is Israel and Israeli expansion. The other matters are just smoke.

    The real issue here is Iran and Iranian expansion. After all, if Iran was not present, it would be impossible to hit Iranian targets in Syria and Iraq.

    PEACE 😇

  48. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    The EU is China’s largest trading partner by imports. The US is China’s 5th largest trading partner by imports. By your logic, the EU and the US are part of the Sinosphere. By contrast, Russia, with its significantly smaller trading relationship with China, has the worst relations with China.

    Trade is a part of geopolitics, but it doesn’t exclusively determine geopolitics.

    The EU, US, SK, Japan all trade significantly with China but do not share the same relations and perspectives regarding China. SK has much less antipathy towards Chinese regional hegemony than Japan does. Unlike SK, both Japan and the US regard themselves as Pacific powers and China as a regional rival.

    SK is a beachhead because you can plant anti-ballistic missiles there, which of course not only provide defense but cover for potential offensives:

    https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/geopolitics/article/2120452/china-wins-its-war-against-south-koreas-us-thaad-missile

    When South Korean President Moon Jae-in
    and Chinese President Xi Jinping
    agreed on November 11 to “normalise exchanges”, they ended a conflict that began more than a year ago with Seoul and Washington’s decision to deploy an anti-ballistic missile system in South Korea.

    Beijing, which claims the system’s radar can be used by the United States to spy on China, retaliated against the deployment of the Terminal High Altitude Area Defence (THAAD) system with unofficial sanctions against the South. Seoul has now agreed to accept military constraints in return for the lifting of those sanctions, creating a worrying precedent for Beijing’s rivals in the region…

    “Moon Jae-in is on the political left, which tends to believe ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’, so they dislike Japan and feel closer to China for historical and political reasons,” said Joseph E. Yi, associate professor of political science and international studies at Hanyang University. “The left-wing in Korea is very anti-Japan and has a post-colonial outlook, seeing China and Korea as opponents of Japanese colonialism.”

  49. Precious says:
    @Richard Steven Hack

    Did everyone read the paragraph from his Ukraine conversation where he referenced CrowdStrike, the firm that “investigated” the alleged DNC “hack”? No one can figure out what he said because the paragraph is so disjointed and rambling that it reads like gibberish.

    The FBI claimed that the DNC server was hacked by Russians, but admitted in court they never actually confirmed this for themselves. They only accepted a draft report from the company CrowdStrike that came to this conclusion.

    So Trump is asking Zelensky to investigate CrowdStrike.

  50. Precious says:
    @alexander

    The American people rose up and voted thumbs down to our corrupt and pilfering establishment, …. They asked Donald Trump (the one true outsider ) to step in and take decisive action….. to save our nation from the imperilment of these policies …and drain the swamp of the treasonous parasites who designed them…..And what has he done ? JACK …

    Is that really a problem though? Tulsi is here to save the day. Do you still think the Democratic party can’t stop her?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @alexander
  51. Sean says:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/forced-tech-transfers-are-on-the-rise-in-china-european-firms-say-11558344240
    Companies that are in high-value, cutting-edge industries have felt compelled to transfer technology at higher-than-average rates, according to a survey by the European Union Chamber of Commerce in China. PHOTO: NG HAN GUAN/ASSOCIATED PRESS
    By Julie Wernau
    May 20, 2019 5:24 am ET
    European businesses in China say forced technology transfers to local firms have become more common over the past two years as foreign firms battle for access in the world’s second-largest economy. Such technology transfers have continued to take place despite official assurances that this practice would be stopped, according to an annual survey by the European Union Chamber of Commerce in China, with 20% of the survey’s 585 participants saying they have felt compelled to transfer technology to maintain market access, up from 10% in 2017. […] The World Trade Organization has long encouraged technology transfer from developed countries to developing ones. But European firms have argued that the competitive landscape in China has shifted dramatically in the last two years, with 62% of respondents reporting that Chinese firms were just as innovative as European firms, or even more so. “.

    China is a vampire, and it’s behaving like this now what will it be like with a per capita income like Japan’s? It is ten times larger than Japan. The power of China relative to the West is growing rapidly and the ultimate limit would be reached only after it decisively overtook the US as a world power.

    Iran is a pest that can best be dealt with by slowly suffocating it with sanctions in parallel with a military standoff. I note they are the ones who are taking military initiatives suddenly. They are hurting and realise they will be pauperised by the US strategy. So America holds the advantage and is pressing it, putting the ball in Iran’s court as to whether that can improve their prospects by for example blocking the Gulf. It would mean a war for regieme change if they tried that. So there is a standoff with deterrence both ways, and the Iranians getting the life squeezed out them if they do nothing. America can afford to wait for the Iranians to break.

    Kim is a cat’s paw of China in their attempts to co opt the worlds most powerful and technologically advanced economy as a tool to further the Chinese plan for world domination. I am sorry to keep saying this but America would never invade North Korea, because they would get into a war with North Korea, which is highly militarized society with a lot of artillery in range of the South Korean capital. Even if Kim’s regieme collapses because the Chinese cut off aid to him (that is the only way he could fall) America knows intervening in the north would mean a land war with China and that is a war they could not possibly hope to achieve a decisive result in. America does not have a way to tame Kim, they don’t. No one even knows how old he is and they are not going to risk provoking some desperate military initiative on his part that would bring the Chinese in. Indeed, he is quite capable of trying to start a war between China and the US if his survival was at stake.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  52. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Precious

    Only your defeatist thoughts prevent you from electing Tulsi. If you can imagine her winning, you can make it happen.

    If you’ve seen her speak before, just go to the 40 min. mark in the Q&A where she’ll slam Obama/Clinton for their Latin America intrference.

    Tulsi Gabbard LIVE on the road – Coffee with the Candidate – Nevada, IA

  53. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    The US never invaded NK. It defended SK from a Soviet backed NK invasion.

    I’m not really sure what you’re getting at.

  54. alexander says:
    @Precious

    Right now ,

    Tulsi is the “only” candidate who matters ….The only one .

    It has to be made very clear to the D.N.C . what is going on. (they have become so full of shit, they can hardly see past the feces all over their faces)

    99% of the American electorate now view the DNC as a wholly corrupt organization, most especially after the Bernie fiasco of 2016.

    Most people now believe it will commit massive voter fraud to insure its anointed and corrupt candidate gets the nomination.

    As a consequence it has lost all legitimacy in the eyes of the American voters.

    This is a fact !

    They have to understand just how low their standing is now. They are in “the pits.”

    The only way for the D.N.C. to redeem itself in the eyes of the American people is to get behind the “peoples choice” for nominee..

    This is , hands down, …..Tulsi Gabbard.

    It is not Bernie, I am telling you it isn’t…it was Bernie in 2016, but it is not Bernie today.

    Tulsi Gabbard is a gift from the gods ..to the DNC….a gift from the Gods.!

    They should be kissing her twinkle toes…every single day.

    She , and she ALONE… has the power to lift the DNC out of the “pit of ill repute”. it has dug for itself, and make it relevant again.

    A Trump/ Gabbard race to the White House will be the most exciting “event” to happen to the United States since the Boston Tea Party.

    The DNC has got to open it’s eyes….

    These “candidates”….. this “run” ……will ignite the electorate like no other “ever”.

    And when you ignite the electorate…you ignite the country….

    I promise you the highest voter turnout for under 45’s in US History…..the numbers will literally “break the bank”.

    The DNC has the power to reconnect to the bulk of the rising voter class..which is almost everybody today…..but only if it gets behind Tulsi…and lets her RUN !!!

    She is a Tour de Force of Authentic American greatness, she captures the truest spirit at the heart of younger Americans….

    She is US….and she will ignite the world.

    Get smart DNC,…. get your finger out of your corrupt and stodgy ass…and start to take a long hard look at this American thoroughbred.

    She will run the pants off of ANYBODY !

    Tulsi …makes the race….

    She is the “back of the pack”, “no money”, “Rocky”, “National Velvet” “Cinderella” “surfer girl” who will by carried by her generation…right into the White House !

    Standing room only….for the entire world .

    What a showstopper !

    WOW !

    PS. Don’t show Hillary’s face ever again…PLEASE !

  55. @alexander

    ” this is hands down TG”

    Damn you simply cannot be this naive so as to believe what you are saying, and you apparently do not comprehend the most important aspect of her political position and that being :

    SHE IS A DEMOCRAT, PERIOD, and all of her “Peace” talk is simply a Trojan Horse designed to trick naive clueless people such as yourself into supporting her, and thereby supporting the insane Democrats in general.

    If she were to be elected we would have the entire Democrat pandemonia, the entire Democrat PC madness including reparations and free medical thrust upon us with nutcases such as Mad Maxine driving the country into oblivion

    AJM

  56. Precious says:
    @alexander

    A Trump/ Gabbard race to the White House will be the most exciting “event” to happen to the United States since the Boston Tea Party.

    I can’t argue with that statement. Ironically, at this point, I think Tulsi’s best chance is for Trump to begin filing charges against all of the crooked criminals running for the Democratic presidential nomination, starting with Biden. If Trump is thorough, the only people left to run might be Tulsi and Marianne Williamson. Of course, I am sure if that happened the DNC would do everything it could to change the rules so that you can still run and win the nomination even if you are a convicted felon sitting in a jail cell.

  57. alexander says:

    I love the idea of Tulsi at the helm…with someone like “Kim Iverson” as US Ambassador to the United Nations.

    She would melt the entire room.

    Just a smile from Kim would probably sell a half trillion in US Treasuries…. in ten seconds flat !

    Poetry, baby.

    “Beautiful” !

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    , @anon
  58. @alexander

    ” I would love the idea of Tulsi at the helm”

    Well obviously there is no hope for you as you were apparently born this naive.

    She is a fricking democrat, can’t you get it this through your thick head, as what you are doing in effect is simply romanticizing her for her appearance and pseudo “peace” stance or whatever, and you are disregarding the fact that she would bring the entire lunatic Democrat package with her into the WH.

    AJM

  59. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @alexander

    [Manchester] New Hampshire Union Leader praises Gabbard

    The Union Leader said:

    “Hawaii U.S. Rep. and Democratic presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard makes a strong case for the harm her party’s national committee is doing to the democratic process. Perhaps it is from her own combat military service that Gabbard draws the courage to take on her own party brass on how it is attempting top-down control of the presidential nomination process
    ….
    Gabbard understands and appreciates the role New Hampshire’s primary has played many times
    ….
    How ironic that the party trying to select a challenger to the reality-TV President would try to stifle a truly open contest.”

    https://www.unionleader.com/opinion/editorials/tulsi-takes-on-dnc-on-nh-primary-gabbard-gets-it/article_921134ac-d229-5155-b82f-b6ac307a623c.html

    The editorial comes alongside an op-ed by Congresswoman Gabbard praising the role that New Hampshire plays in the presidential nominating contest and taking the DNC to task for undermining the role of the New Hampshire primary voters.

    Gabbard wrote: “It’s not the DNC’s job to whittle down the field of candidates, even a crowded field, through numbers games. Narrowing the field is the voters’ job. New Hampshire primary voters need to interact with viable candidates from all walks of life, not just the rich and famous, and decide for themselves who stands out, who connects, and who America can get behind in 2020.”

    https://www.unionleader.com/opinion/columnists/another-view-rep-tulsi-gabbard—-keeping-new/article_22e763bc-e0a8-50a8-861d-4891732d3007.html

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  60. alexander says:
    @anon

    Someone like Elizabeth Warren has already lost to Trump, on day one…..he can be impeached twenty times…and he will still crush her , by a landslide , in the general.

    Asking this huge well spring of young american voters ….to come out for Liz Warren …is as exciting for them as asking them to go down to the local CVS and buy a pack of incontinence briefs for grandma.

    Dud city, USA …..

    Wake up , DNC !

    Wake up !

    Tulsi is not just the candidate…she is the EVENT !

  61. alexander says:

    Nobody understands that if Trump gets” impeached” in the house…this is as far as it will go…and he will wear it as a “badge of honor”…in the general.

    It will give him , paradoxically, a quixotic “avant garde” edge…..

    On the campaign trail…he will say….but I was “impeached” by the corrupt DNC and its ” lying media” …and the crowds will “roar” back….

    “WE DON”T CARE !”

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  62. Most of trump’s problems are self inflicted.

    He hires the worst people he can find.

  63. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @alexander

    Is that you, Greta?

    —-
    Bernie’s in hospital, just had stents installed to clear blocked arteries.
    Is he out of the race?

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  64. alexander says:
    @anon

    Forgive me for asking…but who is Greta ?

    I am sorry for Bernie’s hospitalization, I hope he can return to good health very , very soon.

    He is a very fine …..and very good man…. who deserves all our appreciation.

    But Bernie was already out of “this” race… when he made his choice to back Hillary in 2016 .

    People don’t forget.

    They never do.

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