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Hollywood buys into yet another lie
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I actually forced myself to watch the documentary The White Helmets, which is available on Netflix. It is 40 minutes long, is of high quality cinematographically speaking, and tells a very convincing tale that was promoted as “the story of real-life heroes and impossible hope.” It is overall a very impressive piece of propaganda, so much so that it has won numerous awards including the Oscar for Best Documentary Short this year and the White Helmets themselves were nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. More to the point, however, is the undeniable fact that the documentary has helped shape the public understanding of what is going on in Syria, delivering a Manichean tale that depicts the “rebels” as always good and Bashar al-Assad and his government as un-redeemably evil.

It has been reliably reported that celebrities like George Clooney, Justin Timberlake and Hillary Clinton really like the White Helmets documentary and have promoted it with the understanding that it represents the truth about Syria, but it is, of course, not the whole story. The film, which was made by the White Helmets themselves without any external verification of what it depicts, portrays the group as “heroic,” an “impartial, life-saving rescue organization” of first responders. Excluded from the scenes of heroism under fire is the White Helmets’ relationship with the al-Qaeda affiliated group Jabhat al-Nusra and its participation in the torture and execution of “rebel” opponents. Indeed, the White Helmets only operate in rebel held territory, which enables them to shape the narrative both regarding who they are and what is occurring on the ground. Because of increasing awareness of the back story, there is now a growing movement to petition the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences to revoke the Oscar based on the complete and deliberate misrepresentation of what the White Helmets are all about.

Exploiting their access to the western media, the White Helmets have de facto become a major source of “eyewitness” news regarding what has been going on in those many parts of Syria where European and American journalists are quite rightly afraid to go. It is all part of a broader largely successful “rebel” effort to manufacture fake news that depicts the Damascus government as engaging in war crimes directed against civilians.

The White Helmets have certainly saved some lives under dangerous circumstances but they have also exaggerated their humanitarian role as they travel to bombing sites with their film crews trailing behind them. Once at the sites, with no independent observers, they are able to arrange or even stage what is filmed to conform to their selected narrative. They have consistently promoted tales of government atrocities against civilians to encourage outside military intervention in Syria and bring about regime change in Damascus. The White Helmets were, for example, the propagators of the totally false but propagandistically effective claims regarding the government use of so-called “barrel bombs” against civilians.

The White Helmets were a largely foreign creation that came into prominence in the aftermath of the unrest in Syria that developed as a result of the Arab Spring in 2012. They are currently largely funded by a number of non-government organizations (NGOs) as well as governments, including Britain and some European Union member states. The United States has directly provided $23 million through the USAID (US Agency for International Development) as of 2016 and almost certainly considerably more indirectly. Max Blumenthal has explored in some detail the various funding resources and relationships that the organization draws on, mostly in Europe and the United States.

Former weapons inspector Scott Ritter has described how the White Helmets are not actually trained to do the complicated rescue work that they depict in their self-made videos, which have established their reputation by ostensibly showing them in action inside Syria, rescuing civilians from bombed out structures, and providing life-saving emergency medical care. As an expert in Hazardous Materials handling with New York Task Force 2 USAR team, Ritter reports that “these videos represent de facto evidence of dangerous incompetence or, worse, fraud… The bread and butter of the White Helmet’s self-made reputation is the rescue of a victim—usually a small child—from beneath a pile of rubble, usually heavy reinforced concrete… The techniques used by the White Helmets are not only technically wrong, but dangerous to anyone who might actually be trapped… In my opinion, the videos are pure theater, either staged to impress an unwitting audience, or actually conducted with total disregard for the wellbeing of any real victims.”

Ritter also cites the lack of training in hazardous chemicals, best observed in the videos provided by the White Helmets regarding their activity at Khan Sheikhun on April 4th. He notes “As was the case with their ‘rescues’ of victims in collapsed structures, I believe the rescue efforts of the White Helmets at Khan Sheikhun were a theatrical performance designed to impress the ignorant and ill-informed… Through their actions…the White Helmets were able to breathe life into the overall narrative of a chemical weapons attack, distracting from the fact that no actual weapon existed….”

But perhaps the most serious charge against the White Helmets consists of the evidence that they actively participated in the atrocities, to include torture and murder, carried out by their al-Nusra hosts. There have been numerous photos of the White Helmets operating directly with armed terrorists and also celebrating over the bodies of execution victims and murdered Iraqi soldiers. The group has an excellent working relationship with a number of jihadi affiliates and is regarded by them as fellow “mujahideen” and “soldiers of the revolution.”

So by all means let’s organize to revoke the White Helmets’ Oscar due to misrepresentation and fraud. It might even serve as a wake-up call to George Clooney and his fellow Hollywood snowflakes. But the bigger take-away from the tale of the White Helmets would appear to be how it is an unfortunate repeat of the bumbling by a gullible U.S. government that has wrecked the Middle East while making Americans poorer and less safe. A group of “moderates,” in this case their propagandists, is supported with weapons and money to overthrow a government with which Washington has no real quarrel but it turns out the moderates are really extremists. If they succeed in changing regime in Damascus, that is when the real nightmare will begin for minorities within Syria and for the entire region, including both Israel and Saudi Arabia, both of which seem intent on bringing Bashar al-Assad down. And the truly unfortunate fact is that the Israelis and Saudis apparently have convinced an ignorant Donald Trump that that is the way to go so the situation in Syria will only get worse and, unless there is a course correction, Washington will again richly deserve most of the blame.

 
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  1. Hollywood buys into yet another lie

    Buys into?

    You mean SELLS

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    • Agree: chris, Mark Green
    • Replies: @Ivy
    First-mover advantage sounds more compelling than old-school selling in the pitch meetings and over cocktails.

    Just to show that business buzzword strategies can be apolitical, Trump practices his own variation of that. He goes for the cannonball into the pool or big splash first move, and then when the audience is drying off, he is free to maneuver into whatever new position he decides.

    , @jilles dykstra
    Nothing new, in 1938 two senators, one of them Nye, succeeded in getting an investigation into Hollywood producing pro war movies.
    , @Wally
    Exactly.

    Just like the laughably impossible '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers'.
    There's no business like 'shoah' business'.

    see:
    The Holocaustian Propaganda-Campaign against Bashar al-Assad
    http://codoh.com/library/document/4764/?lang=en

    The 'holocau$t' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are laughable, scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    , @bjondo
    Yep.
    Hollywood is one of our lie factories: Hollywood, govt, media, academia, pr/marketing/ adv/polling.
    , @Man on the street
    I remember vividly during the Bush attempts to invade Iraq, his neocon surrogates on TV used the terms HE DID NOT SELL IT YET TO THE AMERICA PEOPLE. In other words, the propaganda and lies to the American stupid population did not reach a critical mass. "Selling" the war? What a concept. Do you think if you ask any idiot on the street if the US was invaded by a foreign power, should the president sell to the American people on the fact that our military should attack and repel the invaders? Of course not. But, in order that a President brain wash the sheeple into sending their kids to die for Israel by invading Iraq, the president must paint the Iraqi president as evil, and of course our presstitude will never tell the sheeple that our president is the evil one for invading a sovereign nation that never attacked us.
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  2. They shouldn’t revoke the Oscar, they should just change the category to ‘best propaganda’ and award it directly to Pompeo at Langley.

    That, however, would greatly increase the list of contenders every year.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    "...they should just change the category to ‘best propaganda’ and award it directly to Pompeo at Langley."

    Neither Joanna Natasegara (producer) nor Von Einsiedel (director) have ever been in Syria. They both are opportunistic fraudsters. Among the eager supporters of White Helmets are the ever badly smelling Michael Weiss, a Jewish Russophobe of questionable integrity and Eliot Higgins, a British Russophobe famous for his spectacular ignorance and for special favors from the Atlantic Council and Department of War Studies, King's College: http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/06/the-white-helmet-buffoons-of-khan-sheikyoun.html

    Vanessa Beeley: “All of the footage used in the film was provided to the producers by the White Helmets themselves... What this film is essentially a PR cushion for a $100-$150 million covert op, which is basically an NGO front funded by USAID, the British Foreign Office, various EU member states, Qatar, and other various and sundry nations, and members of the public..."
    http://www.activistpost.com/2017/03/medical-doctors-question-white-helmets-footage-al-qaeda-oscar.html
    "Dr Leif Elinder, a known Swedish medical doctor: “After examination of the video material, I found that the measures inflicted upon those children, some of them lifeless, are bizarre, non-medical, non-lifesaving, and even counterproductive in terms of life-saving purposes of children”.

    "White Helmets founder Le Mesurier, who graduated from Britain’s elite Royal Military Academy at Sandhurst, is said to be an ‘ex’ British military intelligence officer involved in a number of other NATO ‘humanitarian intervention’ theatres of war, including Bosnia, Kosovo and Iraq, as well as postings in Lebanon and Palestine. He also boasts a series of high-profile posts at the UN, EU, and UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office. Not to mention his connections back to the infamous Blackwater (Academi)." http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/09/23/exclusive-the-real-syria-civil-defence-expose-natos-white-helmets-as-terrorist-linked-imposters/

    Looks that the Oscar nominees should have indeed included Langley

    "Al-Qaeda Gets An Oscar:" http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/02/al-qaeda-gets-an-oscar-.html
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/05/15/george_clooney_busted_captured_terrorist_spills_the_beans/

  3. @Priss Factor
    Hollywood buys into yet another lie

    Buys into?

    You mean SELLS

    First-mover advantage sounds more compelling than old-school selling in the pitch meetings and over cocktails.

    Just to show that business buzzword strategies can be apolitical, Trump practices his own variation of that. He goes for the cannonball into the pool or big splash first move, and then when the audience is drying off, he is free to maneuver into whatever new position he decides.

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    • Replies: @Joe Hide
    Are you trying to distract from the white helmet article? Your comment doesn't make any sense here.
  4. This brave lady deserves a Pulitzer for her reporting about Syria and the White Helmets, from December 2016.

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    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
    Eva Bartlett is bad-ass. Vanessa Beeley is also an excellent source on Syria.
    , @Moi
    I've seen Ms. Bartlett occasionally on RT but not any MSM outlet. She is a truth-teller.
    , @Backwoods Bob
    I saw that when it first came out. The truth is always so refreshing, sensical, and fulfilling. But I knew it before the video. All anyone has to do is listen to the Syrian people themselves.

    Trump pushed a lot of the right buttons during the election with the glaring exception of being Israel-first.

    He knows exactly what is going on in Syria. One of the more disheartening things to listen to is people excusing him.

    If I work and raise children, and it is so obvious to me then what excuses the man with the genius IQ and having this as his full time job?

    Trump is a white-hat himself. Oh, those poor beautiful babies. We have to bomb Assad for the beautiful babies. There's some fake news Trump is perfectly happy with, like Syria.
  5. What makes Mr Giraldi imagine that the American Empire isn’t an active and fully deliberate participant in the destroy-Syria operation instead of a reluctant dupe?

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    • Replies: @Daves_Not_Here_Man
    Discretion being the better part of valor, I imagine Girard is soft-pedaling the degree of US complicity so as to not arouse too much cognitive dissonance in the reader and lose his main point.

    One red pill per dose.
  6. And the truly unfortunate fact is that the Israelis and Saudis apparently have convinced an ignorant Donald Trump that that is the way to go so the situation in Syria will only get worse and, unless there is a course correction, Washington will again richly deserve most of the blame.

    It is said that “politics makes for strange bedfellows” How is it that America is hooked up with these scumbag countries, Israel and Saudi – doing their bidding – and killing for them. Zionism and Wahhabism are evil brothers – both seekers of age old tribal glory. The good American people have nothing in common with them.

    But there is something our elite share with these tribalists – the US banking system. The US money system wags the American election process. Israel, Saudi, and the US Fed/Wall Street all bank with the Rothschild money cartel.

    Trump is surrounded by greedy Jew money hunger types. For reasons of Israeli and Saudi power – a blood bath in Syria is needed.

    Trump is going to meet Putin who wants peace – will he back the American people who elected him, thinking he was against another war?

    Hmm? We will know by the end of the week.

    Peace — Art

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    • Agree: Druid
    • Replies: @Sherman
    Hey Genius-

    "A blood bath in Syria is needed".

    "Blood bath" s/b "bloodbath".

    Peace
    Sherm

    PS - Will you be eating PORK and beans at your July 4th celebrations?

  7. The first comment has it spot on. Hollywood is complicit in this propaganda effort to give the terrorist thug element a human face. These facts are out there for anybody not totally dependent on the official power structure for their information. People like Clooney who support this are themselves tainted with the barbarism represented by this phony propaganda front, and NGO’s and governments funding them are complicit in war crimes and crimes against humanity. Clooney’s pet project, Darfur and South Sudan are other failed states. Clooney has blood on his hands for having promoted their existence.

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    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
    One more point about Clooney: his wife, Amal, is a human rights lawyer from Lebanon. It would be interesting to know more about her background. Maybe one of Unz's regular contributors should take on this assignment. Lebanon is a very complicated place, but it does have both pro- and anti-Syrian factions. I wonder where Amal and her family would fall on this spectrum?

    Maybe Steve Sailer could do it. He did some brilliant pieces last year investigating the links of Mexican gazillionaire Carlos Slim's relatives to the old Lebanese Phalange.

    , @Montag
    You just described exactly what is the subject matter of an independent movie and graphic novel that I'm trying in vain to get funded. Besides the obvious reasons that 95% of my media-related friends are ultra liberals (anti-truth) and the general cognitive dissonance of our society to the abject poverty of education to university debt-financed amongst young people that verges on state sponsored sleep entrainment depicted in Brave New World.

    Anyway, my project has been shunned officially and unofficially; a known Hollywood actor asked me upon reading the script whether I thought it would be controversial? Hell, yes! Except why do you say that? Well you kind of lay out the plan.. It is definitely an awareness thing via social media amongst millenials recorded by Mark Dice; in short, they don't read books, they have no idea of world events, founding fathers, constitution, can't tell you what DC means in Washington, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. One young white man knew a lot; another 40 year old white woman quoted verbatim the Declaration of Independence. The rest didn't know what he was talking about.

    Anyway, have a look. I don't expect you to contribute because it's DOA but wouldn't mind honest feedback, i.e., am I living in a bubble I created for myself?

    https://igg.me/at/chasm-project-url/x/16732400
  8. Trump really hasn’t given us the full Hillary Clinton on Syria yet. I believe he is aware of what is going on and we will see what his policy is as his administration continues. If people don’t think so we have a great opportunity to share our point of view politely with him on twitter by sending him reputable articles or videos. Maybe he wouldn’t look at it but what if he ever did and it opened some questions for him? The people who tweet to him tend to be obnoxious and insane from the fake news they’ve ingested. If your only source of information is fake news then you aren’t going to make good decisions. He inherited a mess and there are powerful forces outside of his control that control the narrative and want to control him through the narrative. The White Helmets are apart of that narrative. If we give Trump good ideas for options to move forward and he has a support base maybe he will listen to us. What do we have to lose?

    Israel wants a perpetual bloodbath in Syria but if one must prevail they want the Sunni evil to prevail.

    Hollywood has turned into a de-Americanized, anti-American global enterprise where most of their earnings occur overseas. Their movies are turning into two toned (amber & teal) incoherent messes for a global audience they assume are stupid. I expect before long they will make movies praising the great firewall of China and one party rule.

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  9. @Priss Factor
    Hollywood buys into yet another lie

    Buys into?

    You mean SELLS

    Nothing new, in 1938 two senators, one of them Nye, succeeded in getting an investigation into Hollywood producing pro war movies.

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  10. @Priss Factor
    Hollywood buys into yet another lie

    Buys into?

    You mean SELLS

    Exactly.

    Just like the laughably impossible ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.
    There’s no business like ‘shoah’ business’.

    see:
    The Holocaustian Propaganda-Campaign against Bashar al-Assad

    http://codoh.com/library/document/4764/?lang=en

    The ‘holocau$t’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are laughable, scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Why would Israel be against Assad? With him, there's no chance of a peace treat and Israel keeps the Golan. Status quo and no fighting is what Israel likes.
    , @Chicago Anon
    I bet you have small hands.
  11. Funded by USAID……it’s clear they are nothing more than a CIA front…. why no one does an in depth review of the links between USAID and the CIA…..they will find they are one and the same. It’s time for UNZ to uncover the real USAID.

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    • Replies: @dcite

    Funded by USAID……it’s clear they are nothing more than a CIA front…. why no one does an in depth review of the links between USAID and the CIA…..they will find they are one and the same. It’s time for UNZ to uncover the real USAID
     
    .

    Now that would be journalism worth its salt. Absolutely. USAID started as a CIA front in Vietnam during the 60s. Ruth Paine, "friend" of Marina Oswald, had a father named William Avery Hyde, who worked at USAID at least partly because it was tied in with the CIA. So did other members of her family. I know someone who worked briefly at USAID, and would get questions from the public asking for info on projects from the 1960s. There were almost no records. We'r talking the 1960s, not the last century. There should have been the usual memos, advance reports, technical briefs, assessments, etc. Nearly nada, at least among the non-top-secret documents and archives. Only from the mid-70s on, around the time the CIA and various assassinations were looked at critically by Congress, did this agency keep good records of its activities.
  12. @Art

    And the truly unfortunate fact is that the Israelis and Saudis apparently have convinced an ignorant Donald Trump that that is the way to go so the situation in Syria will only get worse and, unless there is a course correction, Washington will again richly deserve most of the blame.

     

    It is said that “politics makes for strange bedfellows” How is it that America is hooked up with these scumbag countries, Israel and Saudi – doing their bidding – and killing for them. Zionism and Wahhabism are evil brothers – both seekers of age old tribal glory. The good American people have nothing in common with them.

    But there is something our elite share with these tribalists - the US banking system. The US money system wags the American election process. Israel, Saudi, and the US Fed/Wall Street all bank with the Rothschild money cartel.

    Trump is surrounded by greedy Jew money hunger types. For reasons of Israeli and Saudi power – a blood bath in Syria is needed.

    Trump is going to meet Putin who wants peace – will he back the American people who elected him, thinking he was against another war?

    Hmm? We will know by the end of the week.

    Peace --- Art

    Hey Genius-

    “A blood bath in Syria is needed”.

    “Blood bath” s/b “bloodbath”.

    Peace
    Sherm

    PS – Will you be eating PORK and beans at your July 4th celebrations?

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Sherman, this article is about genocide in Syria - you know, like the genocide of Jews during the WWII. Your indecent post reminded the readers about Israelis taking dinner while the IDF ("most moral") had been slaughtering the colonized dwellers of Gaza Ghetto.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/13/israel-sderot-gaza_n_5582032.html
    Do you see your tribe smiling and eating and laughing while your "most moral" kills native civilians? - This is a remake of the photographs from WWII when Jews were killed by Nazis for being Jews. "Never again," indeed. A state of Israel exhibiting a moral rot.
  13. Hollywood isn’t ‘duped’ into this slimy pro-war propaganda, they’re very actively involved selling Americans the illegal and immoral war against Syrians, mostly to help their blood brothers, the mass-murdering land thieves that stole Palestine.

    Damn near all of the misery in the MENA area can be traced back to the Khazar invaders, who control Hollywood; the FED; those TBTF Wall Street Casinos; Congress, the Pentagon; State and even the WH.
    The American taxpayer is only expected to supply money and their kids to be used as cannon fodder to fight and die for the glory of Apartheid Israel.

    Some will say its because Assad wouldn’t let a Qatar NG pipeline to Europe go thru Syria, but they never mention that Israeli pipeline that would ship NG to Europe that would be stolen from Egyptian, Palestinian and Lebanese gas fields.

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  14. I’m sure Phil is cognizant that while the intended dupes are most of us 300 million Americans the White Helmets propaganda is aimed at, the Washington/Wall Street Deep State players, while intensely delusional in their own ways, know exactly what they are buying by funding them.

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  15. the Israelis and Saudis apparently have convinced an ignorant Donald Trump that that is the way to go so the situation in Syria

    Donald Trump called out Hillary Clinton for her buddy buddy relationship with the Saudi regime and wrote about the KSA funding terrorist groups in his books. In other words Trump was under no illusions about the direct link between Saudi cash and religious ideology and international terrorist groups. Ignorance in this area was not a problem he had.

    Yet five months into his term he’s schmoozing with those very same terrorist funding Saudis and the vile Israeli regime alike and threatening all out war on Syria and rattling sabers at Iran. All because the Saudis and Israelis “convinced” him it’s a good idea to throw the truth out the window and unlearn what he knew and wrote about? Not a chance. I don’t buy it for a second. Something else is going on here. I suspect Trump the man is nothing like Trump the politician and he played all those people who hoped he’d follow through on his campaign promises for fools.

    It is time to stop making excuses for Trump and treat him like an adult. He owns his decisions and choices and is responsible for them.

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    • Replies: @Joe Hide
    I appreciate your comment. If You spend a lot of time reviewing battle tactics and war strategies, and I mean in the hundreds to thousands of hours, you will possibly come to a different conclusion. Trumps actions, as presented by a very untrustworthy media, look like those of a deceiver. Or of a crazy man. Or of whatever twisted narrative they are pushing. The results of his actions (or sometimes intentional non-actions), tell a different story. Thousands of pedophiles and sex traffickers have been arrested in the last few months. The Syrian War is being won by the Good (or at least not horrible) Guys. We don't have a WW3. Political, economic, and military corruption are being exposed. Priorities are no longer men using women's bathrooms to pee in. There is a lot more good taking place even than this. Great and lasting change takes years if not generations. This is not a quick fix. We won't get everything we want. Idealism never works but Realism does. If only the bad guys deceive, then the Good Guys lose. The Good Guys, You & Me, have to come to grips with how the game is really played.
    , @Jeff Davis
    "I don’t buy it for a second. Something else is going on here."

    Indeed, but what exactly? Everyone is guessing, mostly based on the hyperbolic hate-fest of the campaign, which was so extreme that both sides remain locked in the embrace of partisan passion, far from any chance at a calm assessment of reality.

    And Trump is keeping everyone guessing. Until Trump can wrest control of the Executive branch from the Deep State, he will continue to be "unpredictable", forced to bob and weave and adjust, in order to counter the forces that seek to undermine his presidency.

    So is the real Trump the guy who tells Putin he has to do some look-Presidential kabuki, and bomb a Syrian airfield to get the Neocons and CIA off his back -- briefly -- or is he a gullible emotional dimwit who buys into the transparently ridiculous "sarin attack" bs, despite the intel community telling him it was bs?

    If you're anti-Trump you go for explanation number two. If you're a Neocon, or a paleo-Republican, or a Kool-Aid drenched, flag-wrapped "America, fuck yeah!" patriot then you "worship the beauty of our weapons" and don't bother to think much more about it. And if you've managed to avoid ideological brain-lock, then you're probably just scratchin' your head thinking "WTF ?"

    Personally, I'm pro-Trump all the way, delighted by the shrieking of snowflakes, the deliciously loutish tweeting, the laugh-a-minute horrified old-maid moralism of the pundit class, and the return of take-it-out-and-wave-it-around flagrantly unapologetic manhood. Yee-hah! What a fabulous spectacle! And here's the best part: three and a half more years and maybe four more after that.

    "Make America Great Again!", "Nuke the Swamp!", "Build the Wall!", "Get along with Russia!"

    I frikkin' died and went to heaven. Bring it!
  16. @chris
    They shouldn't revoke the Oscar, they should just change the category to 'best propaganda' and award it directly to Pompeo at Langley.

    That, however, would greatly increase the list of contenders every year.

    “…they should just change the category to ‘best propaganda’ and award it directly to Pompeo at Langley.”

    Neither Joanna Natasegara (producer) nor Von Einsiedel (director) have ever been in Syria. They both are opportunistic fraudsters. Among the eager supporters of White Helmets are the ever badly smelling Michael Weiss, a Jewish Russophobe of questionable integrity and Eliot Higgins, a British Russophobe famous for his spectacular ignorance and for special favors from the Atlantic Council and Department of War Studies, King’s College: http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/06/the-white-helmet-buffoons-of-khan-sheikyoun.html

    Vanessa Beeley: “All of the footage used in the film was provided to the producers by the White Helmets themselves… What this film is essentially a PR cushion for a $100-$150 million covert op, which is basically an NGO front funded by USAID, the British Foreign Office, various EU member states, Qatar, and other various and sundry nations, and members of the public…”

    http://www.activistpost.com/2017/03/medical-doctors-question-white-helmets-footage-al-qaeda-oscar.html

    “Dr Leif Elinder, a known Swedish medical doctor: “After examination of the video material, I found that the measures inflicted upon those children, some of them lifeless, are bizarre, non-medical, non-lifesaving, and even counterproductive in terms of life-saving purposes of children”.

    “White Helmets founder Le Mesurier, who graduated from Britain’s elite Royal Military Academy at Sandhurst, is said to be an ‘ex’ British military intelligence officer involved in a number of other NATO ‘humanitarian intervention’ theatres of war, including Bosnia, Kosovo and Iraq, as well as postings in Lebanon and Palestine. He also boasts a series of high-profile posts at the UN, EU, and UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office. Not to mention his connections back to the infamous Blackwater (Academi).” http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/09/23/exclusive-the-real-syria-civil-defence-expose-natos-white-helmets-as-terrorist-linked-imposters/

    Looks that the Oscar nominees should have indeed included Langley

    “Al-Qaeda Gets An Oscar:” http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/02/al-qaeda-gets-an-oscar-.html

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/05/15/george_clooney_busted_captured_terrorist_spills_the_beans/

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    • Replies: @ANON
    Are the children actually humans or they 4 year old size dolls?
  17. @Ivy
    First-mover advantage sounds more compelling than old-school selling in the pitch meetings and over cocktails.

    Just to show that business buzzword strategies can be apolitical, Trump practices his own variation of that. He goes for the cannonball into the pool or big splash first move, and then when the audience is drying off, he is free to maneuver into whatever new position he decides.

    Are you trying to distract from the white helmet article? Your comment doesn’t make any sense here.

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    The White Helmet idea selling takes on many forms. I pointed out one of those and provided another example of how Trump applies his selling to link to the current administration. What is so hard to see in that?
  18. @Sherman
    Hey Genius-

    "A blood bath in Syria is needed".

    "Blood bath" s/b "bloodbath".

    Peace
    Sherm

    PS - Will you be eating PORK and beans at your July 4th celebrations?

    Sherman, this article is about genocide in Syria – you know, like the genocide of Jews during the WWII. Your indecent post reminded the readers about Israelis taking dinner while the IDF (“most moral”) had been slaughtering the colonized dwellers of Gaza Ghetto.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/13/israel-sderot-gaza_n_5582032.html
    Do you see your tribe smiling and eating and laughing while your “most moral” kills native civilians? – This is a remake of the photographs from WWII when Jews were killed by Nazis for being Jews. “Never again,” indeed. A state of Israel exhibiting a moral rot.

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    • Replies: @Sherman
    You left out the part about the Nulands and the Kagans.

    Sherm
    , @Wally
    Once again the sheep recite what they have been ordered to recite.

    There was no 'genocide of Jews during WWII' or any time, though it is very profitable to Jews to make the false claims.

    It's just more Fake News'.

    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869?
    http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/WhiteWolf722/TheSixMillionMyth.jpg

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are laughable, scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    , @Agent76
    Know this Annamaria, "The oppinion of 10.000 men is of no value if none of them know anything about the subject." Marcus Aurelius
  19. @Interlocutor

    the Israelis and Saudis apparently have convinced an ignorant Donald Trump that that is the way to go so the situation in Syria
     
    Donald Trump called out Hillary Clinton for her buddy buddy relationship with the Saudi regime and wrote about the KSA funding terrorist groups in his books. In other words Trump was under no illusions about the direct link between Saudi cash and religious ideology and international terrorist groups. Ignorance in this area was not a problem he had.

    Yet five months into his term he's schmoozing with those very same terrorist funding Saudis and the vile Israeli regime alike and threatening all out war on Syria and rattling sabers at Iran. All because the Saudis and Israelis "convinced" him it's a good idea to throw the truth out the window and unlearn what he knew and wrote about? Not a chance. I don't buy it for a second. Something else is going on here. I suspect Trump the man is nothing like Trump the politician and he played all those people who hoped he'd follow through on his campaign promises for fools.

    It is time to stop making excuses for Trump and treat him like an adult. He owns his decisions and choices and is responsible for them.

    I appreciate your comment. If You spend a lot of time reviewing battle tactics and war strategies, and I mean in the hundreds to thousands of hours, you will possibly come to a different conclusion. Trumps actions, as presented by a very untrustworthy media, look like those of a deceiver. Or of a crazy man. Or of whatever twisted narrative they are pushing. The results of his actions (or sometimes intentional non-actions), tell a different story. Thousands of pedophiles and sex traffickers have been arrested in the last few months. The Syrian War is being won by the Good (or at least not horrible) Guys. We don’t have a WW3. Political, economic, and military corruption are being exposed. Priorities are no longer men using women’s bathrooms to pee in. There is a lot more good taking place even than this. Great and lasting change takes years if not generations. This is not a quick fix. We won’t get everything we want. Idealism never works but Realism does. If only the bad guys deceive, then the Good Guys lose. The Good Guys, You & Me, have to come to grips with how the game is really played.

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    • Replies: @Jeff Davis
    Damn fine reality-based comment, Joe. Kudos.
    , @RobinG
    May I add to that, Trump is clobbering the FakeNewsMedia which, not too long ago, Ron Unz wisely identified as the appropriate first target.

    CNN is just the first domino to fall, and every chip weakens the wall of deceit. (NYT admission/correction this week: 17 intel. agencies did NOT support Russian hacking allegation.) And it's rumored that Project Veritas has plenty more incriminating video ready to drop.
    , @Stephen R. Diamond

    If only the bad guys deceive, then the Good Guys lose.
     
    Remarkably smug and cynical comment. Smug: what makes you so sure that, if you need to deceive, you're (even remotely) "good"? Cynical - and self-undermining- because in sanctioning political deception, you render yourself prima facie untrustworthy.
  20. @annamaria
    Sherman, this article is about genocide in Syria - you know, like the genocide of Jews during the WWII. Your indecent post reminded the readers about Israelis taking dinner while the IDF ("most moral") had been slaughtering the colonized dwellers of Gaza Ghetto.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/13/israel-sderot-gaza_n_5582032.html
    Do you see your tribe smiling and eating and laughing while your "most moral" kills native civilians? - This is a remake of the photographs from WWII when Jews were killed by Nazis for being Jews. "Never again," indeed. A state of Israel exhibiting a moral rot.

    You left out the part about the Nulands and the Kagans.

    Sherm

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    'You left out the part about the Nulands and the Kagans.'
    And you remind about them why?

    Look carefully at the photograph in the following article: http://theduran.com/4-ways-russia-could-and-should-bring-about-regime-change-in-kiev/
    Keep in mind that the neo-Nazis have began flourishing in Kiev since the ziocon-infested State Dept. had accomplished a regime change there in 2014.

    Was not it you who enquired the UNZ readers about visiting Yad Vashem? - Well, see the amazing results that have been achieved by American/UK Jews in Ukraine. Fit perfectly Yad Vashem preaching.
    "How the Israel Lobby Protected Ukrainian Neo-Nazis: http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/foreign_policy_and_government/news.php?q=1417630958 "Rep. John Conyers wanted to block U.S. funding to neo-Nazis in Ukraine. But the ADL and Simon Wiesenthal Center refused to help."

    "The neo-Nazi Oleh Tyahnybok and the American Zionist Victoria Nuland, wife of Robert Kagan, are all smiles. Not since the days of the Haavara (Transfer) Agreement of August 25, 1933 between the Zionist Federation of Germany and Chancellor Adolf Hitler celebrated by the striking of a celebratory coin by the Berlin Mint (right)....:" http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/12289
    Haavara (Transfer) Agreement: http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/09/07/Nazi_Zionism.html

    , @annamaria
    If you insist: "Reuters (finally) realize there are Nazis in Ukraine" https://off-guardian.org/2017/06/24/reuters-finally-realize-there-are-nazis-in-ukraine/

    “…local authorities [in Kiev] recently voted to rename a major street after a former Nazi collaborator and anti-Semite named Roman Shukhevych.”
    “In 2015, Ukraine passed a law honoring the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and its military wing, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, (OUN-UPA)”
    “Numerous Holocaust memorial sites – including Babi Yar, where over 33,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Nazis – have been vandalized or desecrated by anti-Semitic graffiti and swastikas.”
    “…the Ukrainian Institute of National Memory (UINM) is drafting a law to posthumously exonerate OUN-UPA members convicted of murdering Polish and Jewish civilians during and after the war.”
    “The elevation of OUN-UPA has been accompanied by a growing number of anti-Semitic incidents in Ukraine.”
    “A retired general affiliated with Ukraine’s security services called for the destruction of the country’s Jews;”
    “…a Ukrainian official called Ukraine’s SS Galizien division – created with the support of Heinrich Himmler – “heroes”

    In the Atlantic, in 2014, Ukrainian Nazis were dismissed as a “phantom menace”. Luke Harding wrote a (brilliantly argued) column in the Guardian saying that “there weren’t any Nazis in Ukraine because one of the Maidan protesters was Jewish.” Politico magazine mocked “Putin’s Imaginary Nazis”, whilst US News warned against Russia’s “Neo-Nazi Propaganda”. The Guardian simply headlined: “Don’t believe the Russian propaganda about Ukraine’s ‘fascist’ protesters!”
    There never were Nazis in Ukraine.
    Except now there are. ... John Kerry and Victoria “fuck the EU” Nuland, who had actual, hands-on control of the formation of Ukraine’s new government..."
  21. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    It’s all a propaganda fabrication, totally staged complete with them pretending to rescue children. The US has unlimited funds and doesn’t miss anything in it’s all-encompassing full-spectrum program of propaganda lies and deception. The movie ‘Wag the Dog’ was a far more realistic production than this thing is.

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  22. It’s hard to celebrate July 4th knowing that our system is corrupt from top to bottom. Want to buy the destruction of Syria? No problem. $10,000,000 (or less) distributed in the right places buys a slick narrative about Syria which the msm is happy to promote Meanwhile Congress has been suborned to appropriate vast sums to fund “rebels” (al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, ISIS) seeking to over throw the Syrian Gov’t and establish an Islamic regime in its place.

    Why replace a secular government in Syria with an extremist Sunni regime? Hilary Clinton put it this way: “The best way to help Israel deal with Iran’s growing nuclear capability is to help the people of Syria overthrow the regime of Bashar Assad. ” The war in Syria is all about Israel and teaches us our government can be purchased. What a clever investment! For chump change Uncle Sam can be convinced to spend hundreds of millions, perhaps billions, to overthrow the Syrian government, all for Israel’s benefit.

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  23. @Priss Factor
    Hollywood buys into yet another lie

    Buys into?

    You mean SELLS

    Yep.
    Hollywood is one of our lie factories: Hollywood, govt, media, academia, pr/marketing/ adv/polling.

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  24. @annamaria
    Sherman, this article is about genocide in Syria - you know, like the genocide of Jews during the WWII. Your indecent post reminded the readers about Israelis taking dinner while the IDF ("most moral") had been slaughtering the colonized dwellers of Gaza Ghetto.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/13/israel-sderot-gaza_n_5582032.html
    Do you see your tribe smiling and eating and laughing while your "most moral" kills native civilians? - This is a remake of the photographs from WWII when Jews were killed by Nazis for being Jews. "Never again," indeed. A state of Israel exhibiting a moral rot.

    Once again the sheep recite what they have been ordered to recite.

    There was no ‘genocide of Jews during WWII’ or any time, though it is very profitable to Jews to make the false claims.

    It’s just more Fake News’.

    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1869?

    http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/WhiteWolf722/TheSixMillionMyth.jpg

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are laughable, scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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  25. No more shows actual video confirmation of the false flag footage from the staged gas attack event in Syria.

    Apr 9, 2017 No More

    April 07, 2017 Pentagon Trained Syria’s Al Qaeda “Rebels” in the Use of Chemical Weapons

    The Western media refutes their own lies

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/pentagon-trained-syrias-al-qaeda-rebels-in-the-use-of-chemical-weapons/5583784

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    • Replies: @Corporal Clegg
    What a stupid video. Some first responders were sickened by Sarin, but it dissipates relatively quickly.

    I'm sure the Unz community believes all 3 of the contradicting stories that Russia and Syria are telling about this attack.
  26. @Sherman
    You left out the part about the Nulands and the Kagans.

    Sherm

    ‘You left out the part about the Nulands and the Kagans.’
    And you remind about them why?

    Look carefully at the photograph in the following article: http://theduran.com/4-ways-russia-could-and-should-bring-about-regime-change-in-kiev/
    Keep in mind that the neo-Nazis have began flourishing in Kiev since the ziocon-infested State Dept. had accomplished a regime change there in 2014.

    Was not it you who enquired the UNZ readers about visiting Yad Vashem? – Well, see the amazing results that have been achieved by American/UK Jews in Ukraine. Fit perfectly Yad Vashem preaching.
    “How the Israel Lobby Protected Ukrainian Neo-Nazis: http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/foreign_policy_and_government/news.php?q=1417630958 “Rep. John Conyers wanted to block U.S. funding to neo-Nazis in Ukraine. But the ADL and Simon Wiesenthal Center refused to help.”

    “The neo-Nazi Oleh Tyahnybok and the American Zionist Victoria Nuland, wife of Robert Kagan, are all smiles. Not since the days of the Haavara (Transfer) Agreement of August 25, 1933 between the Zionist Federation of Germany and Chancellor Adolf Hitler celebrated by the striking of a celebratory coin by the Berlin Mint (right)….:” http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/12289
    Haavara (Transfer) Agreement: http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/09/07/Nazi_Zionism.html

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    • Replies: @Wally
    The 'Nazi' thing, another propaganda point recited as mandated.

    If you start with false premises, everything you subsequently extrapolate from those premises will likewise carry along the original error and thus exhibit error within themselves; aka: garbage in, garbage out.

    recommended, alleged gassing process debunked:
    http://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=model&t=10798&sf=msgonly

    There were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    , @Druid
    You tell that Ziofascist, ma'am!
  27. @annamaria
    Sherman, this article is about genocide in Syria - you know, like the genocide of Jews during the WWII. Your indecent post reminded the readers about Israelis taking dinner while the IDF ("most moral") had been slaughtering the colonized dwellers of Gaza Ghetto.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/13/israel-sderot-gaza_n_5582032.html
    Do you see your tribe smiling and eating and laughing while your "most moral" kills native civilians? - This is a remake of the photographs from WWII when Jews were killed by Nazis for being Jews. "Never again," indeed. A state of Israel exhibiting a moral rot.

    Know this Annamaria, “The oppinion of 10.000 men is of no value if none of them know anything about the subject.” Marcus Aurelius

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  28. @Interlocutor

    the Israelis and Saudis apparently have convinced an ignorant Donald Trump that that is the way to go so the situation in Syria
     
    Donald Trump called out Hillary Clinton for her buddy buddy relationship with the Saudi regime and wrote about the KSA funding terrorist groups in his books. In other words Trump was under no illusions about the direct link between Saudi cash and religious ideology and international terrorist groups. Ignorance in this area was not a problem he had.

    Yet five months into his term he's schmoozing with those very same terrorist funding Saudis and the vile Israeli regime alike and threatening all out war on Syria and rattling sabers at Iran. All because the Saudis and Israelis "convinced" him it's a good idea to throw the truth out the window and unlearn what he knew and wrote about? Not a chance. I don't buy it for a second. Something else is going on here. I suspect Trump the man is nothing like Trump the politician and he played all those people who hoped he'd follow through on his campaign promises for fools.

    It is time to stop making excuses for Trump and treat him like an adult. He owns his decisions and choices and is responsible for them.

    “I don’t buy it for a second. Something else is going on here.”

    Indeed, but what exactly? Everyone is guessing, mostly based on the hyperbolic hate-fest of the campaign, which was so extreme that both sides remain locked in the embrace of partisan passion, far from any chance at a calm assessment of reality.

    And Trump is keeping everyone guessing. Until Trump can wrest control of the Executive branch from the Deep State, he will continue to be “unpredictable”, forced to bob and weave and adjust, in order to counter the forces that seek to undermine his presidency.

    So is the real Trump the guy who tells Putin he has to do some look-Presidential kabuki, and bomb a Syrian airfield to get the Neocons and CIA off his back — briefly — or is he a gullible emotional dimwit who buys into the transparently ridiculous “sarin attack” bs, despite the intel community telling him it was bs?

    If you’re anti-Trump you go for explanation number two. If you’re a Neocon, or a paleo-Republican, or a Kool-Aid drenched, flag-wrapped “America, fuck yeah!” patriot then you “worship the beauty of our weapons” and don’t bother to think much more about it. And if you’ve managed to avoid ideological brain-lock, then you’re probably just scratchin’ your head thinking “WTF ?”

    Personally, I’m pro-Trump all the way, delighted by the shrieking of snowflakes, the deliciously loutish tweeting, the laugh-a-minute horrified old-maid moralism of the pundit class, and the return of take-it-out-and-wave-it-around flagrantly unapologetic manhood. Yee-hah! What a fabulous spectacle! And here’s the best part: three and a half more years and maybe four more after that.

    “Make America Great Again!”, “Nuke the Swamp!”, “Build the Wall!”, “Get along with Russia!”

    I frikkin’ died and went to heaven. Bring it!

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  29. @Joe Hide
    I appreciate your comment. If You spend a lot of time reviewing battle tactics and war strategies, and I mean in the hundreds to thousands of hours, you will possibly come to a different conclusion. Trumps actions, as presented by a very untrustworthy media, look like those of a deceiver. Or of a crazy man. Or of whatever twisted narrative they are pushing. The results of his actions (or sometimes intentional non-actions), tell a different story. Thousands of pedophiles and sex traffickers have been arrested in the last few months. The Syrian War is being won by the Good (or at least not horrible) Guys. We don't have a WW3. Political, economic, and military corruption are being exposed. Priorities are no longer men using women's bathrooms to pee in. There is a lot more good taking place even than this. Great and lasting change takes years if not generations. This is not a quick fix. We won't get everything we want. Idealism never works but Realism does. If only the bad guys deceive, then the Good Guys lose. The Good Guys, You & Me, have to come to grips with how the game is really played.

    Damn fine reality-based comment, Joe. Kudos.

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  30. @Joe Hide
    Are you trying to distract from the white helmet article? Your comment doesn't make any sense here.

    The White Helmet idea selling takes on many forms. I pointed out one of those and provided another example of how Trump applies his selling to link to the current administration. What is so hard to see in that?

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    Joe Hide was right, your comment made no sense, and now you're doubling down on a ridiculously poor analogy.

    It was the Obama regime that funded the White Helmets, years in the making, a conventional "old school" propaganda psy-op of the Deep State.

    Trump, the Modern President, uses graceful arrows. That they're felt like cannonballs, hilarious.
  31. @Sherman
    You left out the part about the Nulands and the Kagans.

    Sherm

    If you insist: “Reuters (finally) realize there are Nazis in Ukraine” https://off-guardian.org/2017/06/24/reuters-finally-realize-there-are-nazis-in-ukraine/

    “…local authorities [in Kiev] recently voted to rename a major street after a former Nazi collaborator and anti-Semite named Roman Shukhevych.”
    “In 2015, Ukraine passed a law honoring the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and its military wing, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, (OUN-UPA)”
    “Numerous Holocaust memorial sites – including Babi Yar, where over 33,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Nazis – have been vandalized or desecrated by anti-Semitic graffiti and swastikas.”
    “…the Ukrainian Institute of National Memory (UINM) is drafting a law to posthumously exonerate OUN-UPA members convicted of murdering Polish and Jewish civilians during and after the war.”
    “The elevation of OUN-UPA has been accompanied by a growing number of anti-Semitic incidents in Ukraine.”
    “A retired general affiliated with Ukraine’s security services called for the destruction of the country’s Jews;”
    “…a Ukrainian official called Ukraine’s SS Galizien division – created with the support of Heinrich Himmler – “heroes”

    In the Atlantic, in 2014, Ukrainian Nazis were dismissed as a “phantom menace”. Luke Harding wrote a (brilliantly argued) column in the Guardian saying that “there weren’t any Nazis in Ukraine because one of the Maidan protesters was Jewish.” Politico magazine mocked “Putin’s Imaginary Nazis”, whilst US News warned against Russia’s “Neo-Nazi Propaganda”. The Guardian simply headlined: “Don’t believe the Russian propaganda about Ukraine’s ‘fascist’ protesters!”
    There never were Nazis in Ukraine.
    Except now there are. … John Kerry and Victoria “fuck the EU” Nuland, who had actual, hands-on control of the formation of Ukraine’s new government…”

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  32. I thought it was common knowledge by anyone with critical thinking skills that the White Helmets are just a propaganda operation for the Salafist fanatics and not a politically neutral third party as they try to depict themselves. So this would exclude George Clowney, Justin Timbersnowflake and the rest of the left wing Hollywood morons. It’s looking like we can lump our president and Nimrata Haley in with the brainless and sentimental Hollywood crowd.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    "...this would exclude George Clowney, Justin Timbersnowflake and the rest of the left wing Hollywood morons."
    The Clowneys & Timbersnowflakes have financial inspirations that inform their actions. These opportunists are firmly in service to the "deciders."

    When oilmen meet MIC: "The Economic Motive for America’s Current Wars." https://off-guardian.org/2017/07/04/the-economic-motive-for-americas-current-wars/
    "Around half of Russia’s gas and oil into the EU is transported there via pipelines that traverse Ukraine, and this is a major reason why the Obama Administration (which was in service to the owners of the U.S.-based international corporations ...) started, by no later than 2011, its preparations for a coup in Ukraine, which occurred in February 2014, to overthrow the democratically elected President of Ukraine...

    However, Obama also had come into office in 2009 hoping to overthrow Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad, because, ever since at least 1949, the U.S.-Saudi oil company Aramco was trying to be allowed to build through Syria pipelines for Saudi oil and Qatari gas into the EU so as to grab that energy-market away from Russia. Consequently, “What’s Behind Lower Gas-Prices and the Bombings of Syria and of Southeastern Ukraine” is a U.S.-regime effort to grab market-share in the world’s largest energy-market."

  33. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Wally
    Exactly.

    Just like the laughably impossible '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers'.
    There's no business like 'shoah' business'.

    see:
    The Holocaustian Propaganda-Campaign against Bashar al-Assad
    http://codoh.com/library/document/4764/?lang=en

    The 'holocau$t' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are laughable, scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Why would Israel be against Assad? With him, there’s no chance of a peace treat and Israel keeps the Golan. Status quo and no fighting is what Israel likes.

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    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
    Israel is currently attacking the Syrian Army and has long been assisting the so-called rebels. It wants anarchy in Syria so it can steal the remainder of the Golan territory.
    , @Ben_C
    What now Anon:

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-iran-remains-brutal-and-aggressive/

    Your point is what exactly? That Israel likes to arm and set up field hospitals for mercenary terrorists?

    Well...

    We all knew that anyway...

    Didn't "we"?
    , @Pil
    Assads Syria links Iran to Libanons hizbollah (and palestinian Hamas), and top priority for Israel is toppling the iranian regime. Iran, syria and hizbollah (and the palestinians) are non-compliant actors in the region, while almost all other arab States are de facto allied with Israel/USA.
  34. @KenH
    I thought it was common knowledge by anyone with critical thinking skills that the White Helmets are just a propaganda operation for the Salafist fanatics and not a politically neutral third party as they try to depict themselves. So this would exclude George Clowney, Justin Timbersnowflake and the rest of the left wing Hollywood morons. It's looking like we can lump our president and Nimrata Haley in with the brainless and sentimental Hollywood crowd.

    “…this would exclude George Clowney, Justin Timbersnowflake and the rest of the left wing Hollywood morons.”
    The Clowneys & Timbersnowflakes have financial inspirations that inform their actions. These opportunists are firmly in service to the “deciders.”

    When oilmen meet MIC: “The Economic Motive for America’s Current Wars.” https://off-guardian.org/2017/07/04/the-economic-motive-for-americas-current-wars/
    “Around half of Russia’s gas and oil into the EU is transported there via pipelines that traverse Ukraine, and this is a major reason why the Obama Administration (which was in service to the owners of the U.S.-based international corporations …) started, by no later than 2011, its preparations for a coup in Ukraine, which occurred in February 2014, to overthrow the democratically elected President of Ukraine…

    However, Obama also had come into office in 2009 hoping to overthrow Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad, because, ever since at least 1949, the U.S.-Saudi oil company Aramco was trying to be allowed to build through Syria pipelines for Saudi oil and Qatari gas into the EU so as to grab that energy-market away from Russia. Consequently, “What’s Behind Lower Gas-Prices and the Bombings of Syria and of Southeastern Ukraine” is a U.S.-regime effort to grab market-share in the world’s largest energy-market.”

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  35. @Anon
    Why would Israel be against Assad? With him, there's no chance of a peace treat and Israel keeps the Golan. Status quo and no fighting is what Israel likes.

    Israel is currently attacking the Syrian Army and has long been assisting the so-called rebels. It wants anarchy in Syria so it can steal the remainder of the Golan territory.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Anarchy in Syria doesn't serve Israel. Anarchy anywhere doesn't serve Israel. Managed chaos is one thing, and that may be why they funded the FSA for a while, but total anarchy is dangerous. For all its faults, Israel is still a rational actor. Plus, it has no need for the rest of Golan; the heights are all that are necessary.
  36. @Joe Hide
    I appreciate your comment. If You spend a lot of time reviewing battle tactics and war strategies, and I mean in the hundreds to thousands of hours, you will possibly come to a different conclusion. Trumps actions, as presented by a very untrustworthy media, look like those of a deceiver. Or of a crazy man. Or of whatever twisted narrative they are pushing. The results of his actions (or sometimes intentional non-actions), tell a different story. Thousands of pedophiles and sex traffickers have been arrested in the last few months. The Syrian War is being won by the Good (or at least not horrible) Guys. We don't have a WW3. Political, economic, and military corruption are being exposed. Priorities are no longer men using women's bathrooms to pee in. There is a lot more good taking place even than this. Great and lasting change takes years if not generations. This is not a quick fix. We won't get everything we want. Idealism never works but Realism does. If only the bad guys deceive, then the Good Guys lose. The Good Guys, You & Me, have to come to grips with how the game is really played.

    May I add to that, Trump is clobbering the FakeNewsMedia which, not too long ago, Ron Unz wisely identified as the appropriate first target.

    CNN is just the first domino to fall, and every chip weakens the wall of deceit. (NYT admission/correction this week: 17 intel. agencies did NOT support Russian hacking allegation.) And it’s rumored that Project Veritas has plenty more incriminating video ready to drop.

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  37. @Carlton Meyer
    This brave lady deserves a Pulitzer for her reporting about Syria and the White Helmets, from December 2016.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUhe87r5bEE

    Eva Bartlett is bad-ass. Vanessa Beeley is also an excellent source on Syria.

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  38. @Carlton Meyer
    This brave lady deserves a Pulitzer for her reporting about Syria and the White Helmets, from December 2016.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUhe87r5bEE

    I’ve seen Ms. Bartlett occasionally on RT but not any MSM outlet. She is a truth-teller.

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  39. @Ivy
    The White Helmet idea selling takes on many forms. I pointed out one of those and provided another example of how Trump applies his selling to link to the current administration. What is so hard to see in that?

    Joe Hide was right, your comment made no sense, and now you’re doubling down on a ridiculously poor analogy.

    It was the Obama regime that funded the White Helmets, years in the making, a conventional “old school” propaganda psy-op of the Deep State.

    Trump, the Modern President, uses graceful arrows. That they’re felt like cannonballs, hilarious.

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    You have the wrong person if you think that I am trying to distract from column message about the White Helmets, or are reading any mention of Trump as a negative.
    My comment included observations about the Hollywood nature of how White Helmets may be portrayed to the public, regardless of facts. Media have many ways to try to communicate, not all of them honorable. For entertainment, see Wag the Dog.
    Maybe I need to spell it out more for you. I am not an Obama supporter, and voted for Trump. He has used his own type of first mover advantage routinely as shown in his actions. He gets attention, like he did with the campaign immigration item, and then uses that attention to further his message. Next time I'll choose some non-armaments descriptor and write more to fill in the blanks.
  40. @exiled off mainstreet
    The first comment has it spot on. Hollywood is complicit in this propaganda effort to give the terrorist thug element a human face. These facts are out there for anybody not totally dependent on the official power structure for their information. People like Clooney who support this are themselves tainted with the barbarism represented by this phony propaganda front, and NGO's and governments funding them are complicit in war crimes and crimes against humanity. Clooney's pet project, Darfur and South Sudan are other failed states. Clooney has blood on his hands for having promoted their existence.

    One more point about Clooney: his wife, Amal, is a human rights lawyer from Lebanon. It would be interesting to know more about her background. Maybe one of Unz’s regular contributors should take on this assignment. Lebanon is a very complicated place, but it does have both pro- and anti-Syrian factions. I wonder where Amal and her family would fall on this spectrum?

    Maybe Steve Sailer could do it. He did some brilliant pieces last year investigating the links of Mexican gazillionaire Carlos Slim’s relatives to the old Lebanese Phalange.

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    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    She's a deranged leftist flunky working for GS towards the goal of a one-world, no borders, marxist looney-bin, such as her idiot husband and the entire ilk to which they belong: BO, BC, HRC, all of hollywood, academia, the media, clergy, justistia, etc.
    I guess this sort of sums it up, without the effort of a huge research project.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz artist.
  41. The White Helmets were, for example, the propagators of the totally false but propagandistically effective claims regarding the government use of so-called “barrel bombs” against civilians.

    These pro-Assad morons are really stupid. Hey Giraldi, the link you provided admits that Syria uses “barrel bombs”, but argues that it’s no big deal. The only people dumber than you are the idiots who hang on your every word.

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    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    I understand the barrel bombs are aged oak.
    They can be repurposed for wine-making.
    Or charred and recycled for a unique whisky experience.

    In contrast to US missiles used for faux attacks on vacated Syrian airfields, and the ordnance used by Israeli attack jets to kill Syrians.
    These are not recyclable.
    Nobody does ash trays out of missile shells anymore. So 1950s, in the bad sense.
    Very un-environmentally friendly.

    But what would you expect from a president (and his co-conspirators) that pulls out of the Paris climate treaty.
    Oy the shanda.
  42. Another ringer from Phil Giraldi! He just keeps getting better and better.

    One thing about the Syrian War that the MSM have completely buried is that, back when the war first began, the ‘rebels’ in Syria drove both reporters and the Red Crescent out of the areas they occupied. They didn’t want any neutral persons or organizations monitoring their activities at all. It was the expulsion of the Red Crescent workers that paved the way for the White Helmet psy-op.

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  43. @Agent76
    No more shows actual video confirmation of the false flag footage from the staged gas attack event in Syria.

    Apr 9, 2017 No More

    https://youtu.be/ewjo1rgo97I

    April 07, 2017 Pentagon Trained Syria’s Al Qaeda “Rebels” in the Use of Chemical Weapons

    The Western media refutes their own lies

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/pentagon-trained-syrias-al-qaeda-rebels-in-the-use-of-chemical-weapons/5583784

    What a stupid video. Some first responders were sickened by Sarin, but it dissipates relatively quickly.

    I’m sure the Unz community believes all 3 of the contradicting stories that Russia and Syria are telling about this attack.

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    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
    Only 3? As opposed to the interminable amount of US bullshit you believe?
    , @JoaoAlfaiate
    How many stories were told by the msm about Saddam's WMD? Let's see: 1)Mobile labs for producing poison gas 2) Bio weapon spraying drones 3) Importation of Uranium from Niger 4)Aluminum tubes for centrifuges 5) Al-Libi and bio weapons training....Seems to me Uncle Shmuel and his tame press have been less than truthful about Arab countries and WMD. Why should we believe them this time?
    , @Agent76
    I could not help noticing you skip or gloss over this article and read as well. You should read as well!

    April 07, 2017 Pentagon Trained Syria’s Al Qaeda “Rebels” in the Use of Chemical Weapons

    The Western media refutes their own lies

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/pentagon-trained-syrias-al-qaeda-rebels-in-the-use-of-chemical-weapons/5583784
  44. @Carlton Meyer
    This brave lady deserves a Pulitzer for her reporting about Syria and the White Helmets, from December 2016.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUhe87r5bEE

    I saw that when it first came out. The truth is always so refreshing, sensical, and fulfilling. But I knew it before the video. All anyone has to do is listen to the Syrian people themselves.

    Trump pushed a lot of the right buttons during the election with the glaring exception of being Israel-first.

    He knows exactly what is going on in Syria. One of the more disheartening things to listen to is people excusing him.

    If I work and raise children, and it is so obvious to me then what excuses the man with the genius IQ and having this as his full time job?

    Trump is a white-hat himself. Oh, those poor beautiful babies. We have to bomb Assad for the beautiful babies. There’s some fake news Trump is perfectly happy with, like Syria.

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  45. ANON says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @annamaria
    "...they should just change the category to ‘best propaganda’ and award it directly to Pompeo at Langley."

    Neither Joanna Natasegara (producer) nor Von Einsiedel (director) have ever been in Syria. They both are opportunistic fraudsters. Among the eager supporters of White Helmets are the ever badly smelling Michael Weiss, a Jewish Russophobe of questionable integrity and Eliot Higgins, a British Russophobe famous for his spectacular ignorance and for special favors from the Atlantic Council and Department of War Studies, King's College: http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/06/the-white-helmet-buffoons-of-khan-sheikyoun.html

    Vanessa Beeley: “All of the footage used in the film was provided to the producers by the White Helmets themselves... What this film is essentially a PR cushion for a $100-$150 million covert op, which is basically an NGO front funded by USAID, the British Foreign Office, various EU member states, Qatar, and other various and sundry nations, and members of the public..."
    http://www.activistpost.com/2017/03/medical-doctors-question-white-helmets-footage-al-qaeda-oscar.html
    "Dr Leif Elinder, a known Swedish medical doctor: “After examination of the video material, I found that the measures inflicted upon those children, some of them lifeless, are bizarre, non-medical, non-lifesaving, and even counterproductive in terms of life-saving purposes of children”.

    "White Helmets founder Le Mesurier, who graduated from Britain’s elite Royal Military Academy at Sandhurst, is said to be an ‘ex’ British military intelligence officer involved in a number of other NATO ‘humanitarian intervention’ theatres of war, including Bosnia, Kosovo and Iraq, as well as postings in Lebanon and Palestine. He also boasts a series of high-profile posts at the UN, EU, and UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office. Not to mention his connections back to the infamous Blackwater (Academi)." http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/09/23/exclusive-the-real-syria-civil-defence-expose-natos-white-helmets-as-terrorist-linked-imposters/

    Looks that the Oscar nominees should have indeed included Langley

    "Al-Qaeda Gets An Oscar:" http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/02/al-qaeda-gets-an-oscar-.html
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/05/15/george_clooney_busted_captured_terrorist_spills_the_beans/

    Are the children actually humans or they 4 year old size dolls?

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    “Dr Leif Elinder, a known Swedish medical doctor: “After examination of the video material, I found that the measures inflicted upon those children, some of them lifeless, are bizarre, non-medical, non-lifesaving, and even counterproductive in terms of life-saving purposes of children.”
    http://www.activistpost.com/2017/03/medical-doctors-question-white-helmets-footage-al-qaeda-oscar.html
    Follow the link to read more testimonials by medical doctor. What exactly do you need to clarify?
  46. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Philip Giraldi
    Israel is currently attacking the Syrian Army and has long been assisting the so-called rebels. It wants anarchy in Syria so it can steal the remainder of the Golan territory.

    Anarchy in Syria doesn’t serve Israel. Anarchy anywhere doesn’t serve Israel. Managed chaos is one thing, and that may be why they funded the FSA for a while, but total anarchy is dangerous. For all its faults, Israel is still a rational actor. Plus, it has no need for the rest of Golan; the heights are all that are necessary.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    "Anarchy in Syria doesn’t serve Israel."

    Then you have missed the Israeli brass' public admission that ISIS/Al Qaeda are preferable to sovereign Syria. "Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon said Tuesday that Iran poses a greater threat than the Islamic State, and that if the Syrian regime were to fall, Israel would prefer that IS [Islamic State] was in control of the territory than an Iranian proxy:" http://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-i-would-prefer-islamic-state-to-iran-in-syria/
    More:
    "Alliance of Convenience: Israel Supports Syria’s ISIS Terror Group:" http://www.globalresearch.ca/alliance-of-convenience-israel-supports-syrias-isis-terror-group/5587203
    "Turkey and Israel Are Directly Supporting ISIS and Al Qaeda Terrorists In Syria:" http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/turkey-israel-directly-supporting-isis-al-qaeda-syria.html
    The evidence is clear: anarchy in Syria does serve Israel

    , @truthtellerAryan
    "Anarchy in Syria doesn’t serve Israel"
    Who are you kidding? Killing and destruction is exactly the Zionists' dream of its neighbors, I guess they're buying time, that's a gypsy culture, steal as much and move on.
    They'll never live among each other. Leeches always look for a host to thrive on. Israel is just a little swampy pool where they digest their meal before they go to another host, the swamp is just an excuse since they can feed on both ends.
    Places where the tribe was relatively thriving and lived in peace for millennia has become the target of their greed. Treachery has no honor.
    The gobbling of The West Bank by these leeches is exactly what we are doing as pre-digestion in the rest of ME for the Zionists vultures to feast
    , @Dave Bowman

    Israel is still a rational actor
     
    I suppose so.

    But only if you call a nation of neurotic, money-obsessed, religiously-deranged, hyper-victim-mentality, war-mongering, White-hating billionaire psycopaths utterly divorced from any understanding of the real world "rational" . I don't.
  47. @RobinG
    Joe Hide was right, your comment made no sense, and now you're doubling down on a ridiculously poor analogy.

    It was the Obama regime that funded the White Helmets, years in the making, a conventional "old school" propaganda psy-op of the Deep State.

    Trump, the Modern President, uses graceful arrows. That they're felt like cannonballs, hilarious.

    You have the wrong person if you think that I am trying to distract from column message about the White Helmets, or are reading any mention of Trump as a negative.
    My comment included observations about the Hollywood nature of how White Helmets may be portrayed to the public, regardless of facts. Media have many ways to try to communicate, not all of them honorable. For entertainment, see Wag the Dog.
    Maybe I need to spell it out more for you. I am not an Obama supporter, and voted for Trump. He has used his own type of first mover advantage routinely as shown in his actions. He gets attention, like he did with the campaign immigration item, and then uses that attention to further his message. Next time I’ll choose some non-armaments descriptor and write more to fill in the blanks.

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  48. @Corporal Clegg
    What a stupid video. Some first responders were sickened by Sarin, but it dissipates relatively quickly.

    I'm sure the Unz community believes all 3 of the contradicting stories that Russia and Syria are telling about this attack.

    Only 3? As opposed to the interminable amount of US bullshit you believe?

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  49. @Corporal Clegg

    The White Helmets were, for example, the propagators of the totally false but propagandistically effective claims regarding the government use of so-called “barrel bombs” against civilians.
     
    These pro-Assad morons are really stupid. Hey Giraldi, the link you provided admits that Syria uses "barrel bombs", but argues that it's no big deal. The only people dumber than you are the idiots who hang on your every word.

    I understand the barrel bombs are aged oak.
    They can be repurposed for wine-making.
    Or charred and recycled for a unique whisky experience.

    In contrast to US missiles used for faux attacks on vacated Syrian airfields, and the ordnance used by Israeli attack jets to kill Syrians.
    These are not recyclable.
    Nobody does ash trays out of missile shells anymore. So 1950s, in the bad sense.
    Very un-environmentally friendly.

    But what would you expect from a president (and his co-conspirators) that pulls out of the Paris climate treaty.
    Oy the shanda.

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    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    " But what would you expect from a president ( and his co-conspirators) that pulls out of the Paris climate treaty?"

    So you apparently think that the rip-off "climate treaty" was a good thing, (yeah it was a good deal for all of the third-world nations who would be recieving billions in US tax dollars, for nothing), or am I misunderstanding your convoluted, twisted message.


    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" Society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

  50. @Corporal Clegg
    What a stupid video. Some first responders were sickened by Sarin, but it dissipates relatively quickly.

    I'm sure the Unz community believes all 3 of the contradicting stories that Russia and Syria are telling about this attack.

    How many stories were told by the msm about Saddam’s WMD? Let’s see: 1)Mobile labs for producing poison gas 2) Bio weapon spraying drones 3) Importation of Uranium from Niger 4)Aluminum tubes for centrifuges 5) Al-Libi and bio weapons training….Seems to me Uncle Shmuel and his tame press have been less than truthful about Arab countries and WMD. Why should we believe them this time?

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    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @Corporal Clegg

    Why should we believe them this time?
     
    Believing pro-Assad proaganda that is false on its face seems far more stupid. Doctors Without Borders confirmed signs of Sarin, but I suppose the average Unz reader thinks they are a bunch of evil Jews too.
  51. Usually Oscars automatically go to documentaries or movies with a holofaux theme!!!!!

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    • Replies: @Tallulah B
    This is acceptable. Dead Arabs - killed by other Arabs - are pefect 'thematic' material to prove the goodness and humanity of real people - in Hollywood, or Tel Aviv. Like so much of everywhere else on Earth "they've been killing each other for thousands of years" - as opposed to, merely shooting a stone thrower, dispersing rioting negroes or shooting-up the local disco.
  52. @Joe Hide
    I appreciate your comment. If You spend a lot of time reviewing battle tactics and war strategies, and I mean in the hundreds to thousands of hours, you will possibly come to a different conclusion. Trumps actions, as presented by a very untrustworthy media, look like those of a deceiver. Or of a crazy man. Or of whatever twisted narrative they are pushing. The results of his actions (or sometimes intentional non-actions), tell a different story. Thousands of pedophiles and sex traffickers have been arrested in the last few months. The Syrian War is being won by the Good (or at least not horrible) Guys. We don't have a WW3. Political, economic, and military corruption are being exposed. Priorities are no longer men using women's bathrooms to pee in. There is a lot more good taking place even than this. Great and lasting change takes years if not generations. This is not a quick fix. We won't get everything we want. Idealism never works but Realism does. If only the bad guys deceive, then the Good Guys lose. The Good Guys, You & Me, have to come to grips with how the game is really played.

    If only the bad guys deceive, then the Good Guys lose.

    Remarkably smug and cynical comment. Smug: what makes you so sure that, if you need to deceive, you’re (even remotely) “good”? Cynical – and self-undermining- because in sanctioning political deception, you render yourself prima facie untrustworthy.

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  53. @ANON
    Are the children actually humans or they 4 year old size dolls?

    “Dr Leif Elinder, a known Swedish medical doctor: “After examination of the video material, I found that the measures inflicted upon those children, some of them lifeless, are bizarre, non-medical, non-lifesaving, and even counterproductive in terms of life-saving purposes of children.”

    http://www.activistpost.com/2017/03/medical-doctors-question-white-helmets-footage-al-qaeda-oscar.html

    Follow the link to read more testimonials by medical doctor. What exactly do you need to clarify?

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  54. Globalists cause wars, create refugees, and then force white nations into accepting them. Worse, ‘refugee’ and ‘Syrian’ are fluid, and any black African coming from Libya might as well be a Syrian refugee too.

    White helmets or Refugee boats, globalism is one big ugly lie.

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  55. @Anon
    Anarchy in Syria doesn't serve Israel. Anarchy anywhere doesn't serve Israel. Managed chaos is one thing, and that may be why they funded the FSA for a while, but total anarchy is dangerous. For all its faults, Israel is still a rational actor. Plus, it has no need for the rest of Golan; the heights are all that are necessary.

    “Anarchy in Syria doesn’t serve Israel.”

    Then you have missed the Israeli brass’ public admission that ISIS/Al Qaeda are preferable to sovereign Syria. “Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon said Tuesday that Iran poses a greater threat than the Islamic State, and that if the Syrian regime were to fall, Israel would prefer that IS [Islamic State] was in control of the territory than an Iranian proxy:” http://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-i-would-prefer-islamic-state-to-iran-in-syria/
    More:
    “Alliance of Convenience: Israel Supports Syria’s ISIS Terror Group:” http://www.globalresearch.ca/alliance-of-convenience-israel-supports-syrias-isis-terror-group/5587203
    “Turkey and Israel Are Directly Supporting ISIS and Al Qaeda Terrorists In Syria:” http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/turkey-israel-directly-supporting-isis-al-qaeda-syria.html
    The evidence is clear: anarchy in Syria does serve Israel

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    • Replies: @Anon
    None of those sources are great, but even so, none of those stories suggest that anarchy is the goal.
  56. Knowing that George Clooney has taken up a cause gives it as much gravity as if Katy Perry has.

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  57. @JoaoAlfaiate
    How many stories were told by the msm about Saddam's WMD? Let's see: 1)Mobile labs for producing poison gas 2) Bio weapon spraying drones 3) Importation of Uranium from Niger 4)Aluminum tubes for centrifuges 5) Al-Libi and bio weapons training....Seems to me Uncle Shmuel and his tame press have been less than truthful about Arab countries and WMD. Why should we believe them this time?

    Why should we believe them this time?

    Believing pro-Assad proaganda that is false on its face seems far more stupid. Doctors Without Borders confirmed signs of Sarin, but I suppose the average Unz reader thinks they are a bunch of evil Jews too.

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    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus

    Doctors Without Borders confirmed signs of Sarin, but I suppose the average Unz reader thinks . . .
     
    . . . the average Unz reader thinks: How does "confirmation of signs of Sarin" prove who used the substance claimed to be Sarin?
    , @JoaoAlfaiate
    Thou hath said it.
    , @Seamus Padraig
    Doctors Without Borders is another ZATO psy-op not much different from the White Helmets. Why their very founder, Bernard Kouchner, went on to become France's Foreign Minister under Sarko. Talk about revolving doors!
    , @schmenz
    Yawn.
    , @annamaria
    "Believing pro-Assad proaganda that is false on its face..."
    Do you have facts to prove your statement? - otherwise you are exercising in slander on behalf of the empire of Fed. Reserve (MIC, banksters, oilmen, Israel-firsters).
    No need in parroting the MSM lies on UNZ.
  58. @Corporal Clegg
    What a stupid video. Some first responders were sickened by Sarin, but it dissipates relatively quickly.

    I'm sure the Unz community believes all 3 of the contradicting stories that Russia and Syria are telling about this attack.

    I could not help noticing you skip or gloss over this article and read as well. You should read as well!

    April 07, 2017 Pentagon Trained Syria’s Al Qaeda “Rebels” in the Use of Chemical Weapons

    The Western media refutes their own lies

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/pentagon-trained-syrias-al-qaeda-rebels-in-the-use-of-chemical-weapons/5583784

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  59. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @annamaria
    "Anarchy in Syria doesn’t serve Israel."

    Then you have missed the Israeli brass' public admission that ISIS/Al Qaeda are preferable to sovereign Syria. "Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon said Tuesday that Iran poses a greater threat than the Islamic State, and that if the Syrian regime were to fall, Israel would prefer that IS [Islamic State] was in control of the territory than an Iranian proxy:" http://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-i-would-prefer-islamic-state-to-iran-in-syria/
    More:
    "Alliance of Convenience: Israel Supports Syria’s ISIS Terror Group:" http://www.globalresearch.ca/alliance-of-convenience-israel-supports-syrias-isis-terror-group/5587203
    "Turkey and Israel Are Directly Supporting ISIS and Al Qaeda Terrorists In Syria:" http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/turkey-israel-directly-supporting-isis-al-qaeda-syria.html
    The evidence is clear: anarchy in Syria does serve Israel

    None of those sources are great, but even so, none of those stories suggest that anarchy is the goal.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    All these sources - and many others presenting the hard facts - refute your charitable opinion of Israel, while supporting the unfortunate truth that anarchy in Syria does serve Israel and that Israel does everything in its power to generate the anarchy, including the material and logistical support for ISIS and Al Qaeda.
    As for the "goal," please do not feign innocence: both PNAC and Oded Yinon plan for Eretz Israel are available online.
  60. @Anon
    Why would Israel be against Assad? With him, there's no chance of a peace treat and Israel keeps the Golan. Status quo and no fighting is what Israel likes.

    What now Anon:

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-iran-remains-brutal-and-aggressive/

    Your point is what exactly? That Israel likes to arm and set up field hospitals for mercenary terrorists?

    Well…

    We all knew that anyway…

    Didn’t “we”?

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  61. @annamaria
    'You left out the part about the Nulands and the Kagans.'
    And you remind about them why?

    Look carefully at the photograph in the following article: http://theduran.com/4-ways-russia-could-and-should-bring-about-regime-change-in-kiev/
    Keep in mind that the neo-Nazis have began flourishing in Kiev since the ziocon-infested State Dept. had accomplished a regime change there in 2014.

    Was not it you who enquired the UNZ readers about visiting Yad Vashem? - Well, see the amazing results that have been achieved by American/UK Jews in Ukraine. Fit perfectly Yad Vashem preaching.
    "How the Israel Lobby Protected Ukrainian Neo-Nazis: http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/foreign_policy_and_government/news.php?q=1417630958 "Rep. John Conyers wanted to block U.S. funding to neo-Nazis in Ukraine. But the ADL and Simon Wiesenthal Center refused to help."

    "The neo-Nazi Oleh Tyahnybok and the American Zionist Victoria Nuland, wife of Robert Kagan, are all smiles. Not since the days of the Haavara (Transfer) Agreement of August 25, 1933 between the Zionist Federation of Germany and Chancellor Adolf Hitler celebrated by the striking of a celebratory coin by the Berlin Mint (right)....:" http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/12289
    Haavara (Transfer) Agreement: http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/09/07/Nazi_Zionism.html

    The ‘Nazi’ thing, another propaganda point recited as mandated.

    If you start with false premises, everything you subsequently extrapolate from those premises will likewise carry along the original error and thus exhibit error within themselves; aka: garbage in, garbage out.

    recommended, alleged gassing process debunked:

    http://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=model&t=10798&sf=msgonly

    There were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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  62. @Corporal Clegg

    Why should we believe them this time?
     
    Believing pro-Assad proaganda that is false on its face seems far more stupid. Doctors Without Borders confirmed signs of Sarin, but I suppose the average Unz reader thinks they are a bunch of evil Jews too.

    Doctors Without Borders confirmed signs of Sarin, but I suppose the average Unz reader thinks . . .

    . . . the average Unz reader thinks: How does “confirmation of signs of Sarin” prove who used the substance claimed to be Sarin?

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    • Replies: @Corporal Clegg
    The video alleges that there was no Sarin used at all. So we agree it's a lie? Great.

    Now, perhaps the Syrian rebels gassed their own people.. because that worked so well last time? Amazing that they have all this Sarin but never think to use it on the people they are fighting against.

    Russia/Syria have several explanations, but Assad being a genocidal lispy murderer is still more easily believed than all of them.
  63. @Corporal Clegg

    Why should we believe them this time?
     
    Believing pro-Assad proaganda that is false on its face seems far more stupid. Doctors Without Borders confirmed signs of Sarin, but I suppose the average Unz reader thinks they are a bunch of evil Jews too.

    Thou hath said it.

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  64. @SolontoCroesus

    Doctors Without Borders confirmed signs of Sarin, but I suppose the average Unz reader thinks . . .
     
    . . . the average Unz reader thinks: How does "confirmation of signs of Sarin" prove who used the substance claimed to be Sarin?

    The video alleges that there was no Sarin used at all. So we agree it’s a lie? Great.

    Now, perhaps the Syrian rebels gassed their own people.. because that worked so well last time? Amazing that they have all this Sarin but never think to use it on the people they are fighting against.

    Russia/Syria have several explanations, but Assad being a genocidal lispy murderer is still more easily believed than all of them.

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    • Replies: @MEexpert

    Now, perhaps the Syrian rebels gassed their own people.. because that worked so well last time? Amazing that they have all this Sarin but never think to use it on the people they are fighting against.
     
    You must be really naïve, if you have to ask this question. The rebels don't have the Sarin gas but their friends, the Turks and the Israelis , supply them when it is needed. If they used it on the people they are fighting, they will get blamed and the West will turn against them. When they use it on their own people, Assad gets blamed and the chances are that the ever ready neocon military, under the command of the teary eyed Donald Trump, will send out several more missiles.
    , @annamaria
    "Russia/Syria have several explanations, but Assad being a genocidal lispy murderer is still more easily believed than all of them."

    Seems as a specter of Colin Power comes to UNZ, under pseudonym of Corporal Clegg. Or is it the morbid Cheney and his pupil Hillary Clinton? - Only a dedicated ziocon could be so rabidly hateful of Russia and Syria.
    By the way, how is Assad genocidal next to the genocidal Israelis? Assad looks morally superior to the amoral supremacists and parasitoids next door.
  65. Amy Goodman at Democracy Now has completely sold out to the White Helmets propaganda machine which is funded by the U.S. state department. Apparently Goodman cannot bother to investigate the links to the rebels and U.S. clandestine funding of their propaganda. After all Goodman is so stuck on herself and her own star power that she doesn’t care a lick about the truth.
    She has consistently sold out to the democrats and their ignorant uber wealthy supporters in Hollywood.

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    I hope you don't need telling that her permanent, overriding loyalties are obvious and unchanging - given that "Goodman" is a 100% western Jewish surname.
  66. @Fiendly Neighborhood Terrorist
    What makes Mr Giraldi imagine that the American Empire isn't an active and fully deliberate participant in the destroy-Syria operation instead of a reluctant dupe?

    Discretion being the better part of valor, I imagine Girard is soft-pedaling the degree of US complicity so as to not arouse too much cognitive dissonance in the reader and lose his main point.

    One red pill per dose.

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  67. @annamaria
    'You left out the part about the Nulands and the Kagans.'
    And you remind about them why?

    Look carefully at the photograph in the following article: http://theduran.com/4-ways-russia-could-and-should-bring-about-regime-change-in-kiev/
    Keep in mind that the neo-Nazis have began flourishing in Kiev since the ziocon-infested State Dept. had accomplished a regime change there in 2014.

    Was not it you who enquired the UNZ readers about visiting Yad Vashem? - Well, see the amazing results that have been achieved by American/UK Jews in Ukraine. Fit perfectly Yad Vashem preaching.
    "How the Israel Lobby Protected Ukrainian Neo-Nazis: http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/foreign_policy_and_government/news.php?q=1417630958 "Rep. John Conyers wanted to block U.S. funding to neo-Nazis in Ukraine. But the ADL and Simon Wiesenthal Center refused to help."

    "The neo-Nazi Oleh Tyahnybok and the American Zionist Victoria Nuland, wife of Robert Kagan, are all smiles. Not since the days of the Haavara (Transfer) Agreement of August 25, 1933 between the Zionist Federation of Germany and Chancellor Adolf Hitler celebrated by the striking of a celebratory coin by the Berlin Mint (right)....:" http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/12289
    Haavara (Transfer) Agreement: http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/09/07/Nazi_Zionism.html

    You tell that Ziofascist, ma’am!

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  68. I so believe in this schweinsheissen propaganda ?? After all it’s supported by the dung beetle blood line ?? So it must be the truth ??

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  69. Anybody remember “Zlata’s Diary”? This was a piece of tearjerking propaganda supposedly written by a Bosnian Muslim girl enduring the siege of Sarajevo. Absurdly compared to Anne Frank’s story, it played on Western ignorance and sentimentality. Bosnian Serbs, in reality one side in a vicious three-way conflict, became ” Nazis” attacking the innocent.

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    No, I'd forgotten about that. Thanks for the reminder. There's so much ZATO disinformation in today's world that it's hard to remember and keep track of it all.
    , @anarchyst
    Let's not forget that Anne Frank's "diary was mostly written with a ball-point pen, NOT invented until after WW2...
  70. The whole notion of a ‘white hat’ singularity is predicated on an essential falsehood: That Syrians of every stripe have not been digging themselves, their loved ones, and even strangers out of the rubble of a thousand formerly-civilized places since America decided they wanted, and needed, more ‘democrazy’.

    The white hats and team shirts are both imported, along with the notion that they are ‘special’ or ‘important’ – thy’re part of the money we and our governments spend to bring change to Syria, a part that doesn’t buy guns. .

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  71. @Corporal Clegg
    The video alleges that there was no Sarin used at all. So we agree it's a lie? Great.

    Now, perhaps the Syrian rebels gassed their own people.. because that worked so well last time? Amazing that they have all this Sarin but never think to use it on the people they are fighting against.

    Russia/Syria have several explanations, but Assad being a genocidal lispy murderer is still more easily believed than all of them.

    Now, perhaps the Syrian rebels gassed their own people.. because that worked so well last time? Amazing that they have all this Sarin but never think to use it on the people they are fighting against.

    You must be really naïve, if you have to ask this question. The rebels don’t have the Sarin gas but their friends, the Turks and the Israelis , supply them when it is needed. If they used it on the people they are fighting, they will get blamed and the West will turn against them. When they use it on their own people, Assad gets blamed and the chances are that the ever ready neocon military, under the command of the teary eyed Donald Trump, will send out several more missiles.

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  72. @Corporal Clegg

    Why should we believe them this time?
     
    Believing pro-Assad proaganda that is false on its face seems far more stupid. Doctors Without Borders confirmed signs of Sarin, but I suppose the average Unz reader thinks they are a bunch of evil Jews too.

    Doctors Without Borders is another ZATO psy-op not much different from the White Helmets. Why their very founder, Bernard Kouchner, went on to become France’s Foreign Minister under Sarko. Talk about revolving doors!

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  73. @truthtellerAryan
    Usually Oscars automatically go to documentaries or movies with a holofaux theme!!!!!

    This is acceptable. Dead Arabs – killed by other Arabs – are pefect ‘thematic’ material to prove the goodness and humanity of real people – in Hollywood, or Tel Aviv. Like so much of everywhere else on Earth “they’ve been killing each other for thousands of years” – as opposed to, merely shooting a stone thrower, dispersing rioting negroes or shooting-up the local disco.

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    Absolutely, to have such an award, if you can call it that, there has to be something that shows how most of them are evil compared to us, the eternal victims! Our free F-16s, tanks, missiles, and machine guns are no match to their evil and barbaric pebbles. After all this "sad" documentary will mainly be watched by our caboodles in the West, affirming how HUMANE and civilized we are, and thus GOD chose us....
  74. @Esmehan
    Anybody remember "Zlata's Diary"? This was a piece of tearjerking propaganda supposedly written by a Bosnian Muslim girl enduring the siege of Sarajevo. Absurdly compared to Anne Frank's story, it played on Western ignorance and sentimentality. Bosnian Serbs, in reality one side in a vicious three-way conflict, became " Nazis" attacking the innocent.

    No, I’d forgotten about that. Thanks for the reminder. There’s so much ZATO disinformation in today’s world that it’s hard to remember and keep track of it all.

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  75. @Anon
    None of those sources are great, but even so, none of those stories suggest that anarchy is the goal.

    All these sources – and many others presenting the hard facts – refute your charitable opinion of Israel, while supporting the unfortunate truth that anarchy in Syria does serve Israel and that Israel does everything in its power to generate the anarchy, including the material and logistical support for ISIS and Al Qaeda.
    As for the “goal,” please do not feign innocence: both PNAC and Oded Yinon plan for Eretz Israel are available online.

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  76. @Corporal Clegg
    The video alleges that there was no Sarin used at all. So we agree it's a lie? Great.

    Now, perhaps the Syrian rebels gassed their own people.. because that worked so well last time? Amazing that they have all this Sarin but never think to use it on the people they are fighting against.

    Russia/Syria have several explanations, but Assad being a genocidal lispy murderer is still more easily believed than all of them.

    “Russia/Syria have several explanations, but Assad being a genocidal lispy murderer is still more easily believed than all of them.”

    Seems as a specter of Colin Power comes to UNZ, under pseudonym of Corporal Clegg. Or is it the morbid Cheney and his pupil Hillary Clinton? – Only a dedicated ziocon could be so rabidly hateful of Russia and Syria.
    By the way, how is Assad genocidal next to the genocidal Israelis? Assad looks morally superior to the amoral supremacists and parasitoids next door.

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  77. @Esmehan
    Anybody remember "Zlata's Diary"? This was a piece of tearjerking propaganda supposedly written by a Bosnian Muslim girl enduring the siege of Sarajevo. Absurdly compared to Anne Frank's story, it played on Western ignorance and sentimentality. Bosnian Serbs, in reality one side in a vicious three-way conflict, became " Nazis" attacking the innocent.

    Let’s not forget that Anne Frank’s “diary was mostly written with a ball-point pen, NOT invented until after WW2…

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  78. Sarin is a subset of a group of compounds called organo phosphates. They are primarily used as insecticides/ pesticides(such as round up), as well as motor oil additives. If vaporized, as stored forms by a conventional explosive, exposure to any of them causes similar manifestations. Hence it is not possible to say which organo phosphorus compound one is exposed to in absence of a forensic analysis such as gas/ liquid chromatography.

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  79. It’s not surprising that the largest fake-factory on earth, Hollywood, awarded an OSCAR to a fake documentary. The “White Helmets” are nothing but terrorists disguised as paramedics. After the terrorists had to leave Aleppo, the “White Helmets” also disappeared. Wherever there is a terrorist attack, the phony helpers appear. Foreign powers created the White Helmets, and with the collaboration of the mainstream media, they could succeed till they finally landed in Hollywood where they belong. Unsurprisingly, Hillary Clinton and George Clooney liked these hoodlums, which should not surprise anybody. At least, Hillary and her husband belong behind bars.

    http://ahtribune.com/world/north-africa-south-west-asia/syria-crisis/1531-white-helmets-oscar.html

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    Thank you for the link. More on the same: https://consortiumnews.com/2017/02/24/syrian-war-propaganda-at-the-oscars/
    "The White Helmets were initiated by the British military contractor James LeMesurier and is funded (about $100 million) by the different Western governments... It's a NATO ghost organization...
    The "White Helmets" have no telephone number in Syria. If one wants to get in touch with them, one has to contact Al-Qaida. Their headquarter is alongside Al-Qaida's. The Real Syria Civil Defence can be reached by dialing 113 inside Syria.

    ... most of the group’s heavy funding goes to marketing, which is run by “The Syria Campaign” based in New York. The campaign is based in New York City, and the manager is an Irish-American woman, named Anna Nolan, who has never been to Syria. Even their website is fake. They beefed it up with video footage from a documentary produced by the BBC in 2010 that showed dancing kids and education under the Assad government."

    What does Mrs. Clooney do? - defending human rights? Alongside with Clintons? - Then it should be very "humanitarian."

    More on the amazing Al Qaeda affiliate known as White Helmets:
    "The film is as fraudulent as the group it tries to turn into heroes. The filmmakers never set foot in Syria. Their video footage takes place in southern Turkey where they show White Helmet trainees in a hotel and talking on cell phones...
    The original video has the logo of Aleppo Media Center (AMC), which was created by the Syrian Expatriates Organization. Their address on K Street in Washington DC suggests this is yet another Western-funded operation similar to the Iraqi National Congress that lobbied and lied on behalf of the 2003 invasion of Iraq."

    The infamous AMC: "Aleppo Media Centre’ Funded By French Foreign Office, EU and US" http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/09/20/exclusive-aleppo-media-centre-funded-by-french-foreign-office-eu-and-us/

    , @Seamus Padraig

    After the terrorists had to leave Aleppo, the “White Helmets” also disappeared.
     
    Naturally. You've probably noticed by now that the White Helmets only appear where the 'rebels' are. That's because the 'rebels' won't allow the Red Crescent to operate in their zones, making sure we get no objective casualty reports.
  80. @Corporal Clegg

    Why should we believe them this time?
     
    Believing pro-Assad proaganda that is false on its face seems far more stupid. Doctors Without Borders confirmed signs of Sarin, but I suppose the average Unz reader thinks they are a bunch of evil Jews too.

    Yawn.

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  81. Cynical me, you may say, but I can’t help suspecting that if the White Helmets had been on the same side as Vladimir Putin, there would be no crticism of them on the American internet. After all, when was the last time you saw an article criticising the Ukrainian “rebels”?

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    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    First exposures seem to have a powerful impact.

    In Jan 2012 Emma Alberici interviewed Sergey Lavrov, Russian foreign minister, on Australia TV. He laid out the reasons the Russian government opposed US/UN intervention in Syria, the most significant reason being the sovereignty of Syria and its government. United Nations conventions proscribe interference in the domestic affairs of member states. It was a straightforward judgment.

    US claims to be the nation that "preserves the international order" by adhering to the "rule of law," but in fact, Russia seems to have been the state sustaining that value.

    Lavrov and the Russian government he represents gained credibility with that interview, and nothing I have seen him or Putin say in the 5 years subsequent, has significantly contradicted that policy laid out in 2012.
  82. @Ludwig Watzal
    It's not surprising that the largest fake-factory on earth, Hollywood, awarded an OSCAR to a fake documentary. The "White Helmets" are nothing but terrorists disguised as paramedics. After the terrorists had to leave Aleppo, the "White Helmets" also disappeared. Wherever there is a terrorist attack, the phony helpers appear. Foreign powers created the White Helmets, and with the collaboration of the mainstream media, they could succeed till they finally landed in Hollywood where they belong. Unsurprisingly, Hillary Clinton and George Clooney liked these hoodlums, which should not surprise anybody. At least, Hillary and her husband belong behind bars.

    http://ahtribune.com/world/north-africa-south-west-asia/syria-crisis/1531-white-helmets-oscar.html

    Thank you for the link. More on the same: https://consortiumnews.com/2017/02/24/syrian-war-propaganda-at-the-oscars/
    “The White Helmets were initiated by the British military contractor James LeMesurier and is funded (about $100 million) by the different Western governments… It’s a NATO ghost organization…
    The “White Helmets” have no telephone number in Syria. If one wants to get in touch with them, one has to contact Al-Qaida. Their headquarter is alongside Al-Qaida’s. The Real Syria Civil Defence can be reached by dialing 113 inside Syria.

    … most of the group’s heavy funding goes to marketing, which is run by “The Syria Campaign” based in New York. The campaign is based in New York City, and the manager is an Irish-American woman, named Anna Nolan, who has never been to Syria. Even their website is fake. They beefed it up with video footage from a documentary produced by the BBC in 2010 that showed dancing kids and education under the Assad government.”

    What does Mrs. Clooney do? – defending human rights? Alongside with Clintons? – Then it should be very “humanitarian.”

    More on the amazing Al Qaeda affiliate known as White Helmets:
    “The film is as fraudulent as the group it tries to turn into heroes. The filmmakers never set foot in Syria. Their video footage takes place in southern Turkey where they show White Helmet trainees in a hotel and talking on cell phones…
    The original video has the logo of Aleppo Media Center (AMC), which was created by the Syrian Expatriates Organization. Their address on K Street in Washington DC suggests this is yet another Western-funded operation similar to the Iraqi National Congress that lobbied and lied on behalf of the 2003 invasion of Iraq.”

    The infamous AMC: “Aleppo Media Centre’ Funded By French Foreign Office, EU and US” http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/09/20/exclusive-aleppo-media-centre-funded-by-french-foreign-office-eu-and-us/

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  83. @Corporal Clegg

    Why should we believe them this time?
     
    Believing pro-Assad proaganda that is false on its face seems far more stupid. Doctors Without Borders confirmed signs of Sarin, but I suppose the average Unz reader thinks they are a bunch of evil Jews too.

    “Believing pro-Assad proaganda that is false on its face…”
    Do you have facts to prove your statement? – otherwise you are exercising in slander on behalf of the empire of Fed. Reserve (MIC, banksters, oilmen, Israel-firsters).
    No need in parroting the MSM lies on UNZ.

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  84. @Priss Factor
    Hollywood buys into yet another lie

    Buys into?

    You mean SELLS

    I remember vividly during the Bush attempts to invade Iraq, his neocon surrogates on TV used the terms HE DID NOT SELL IT YET TO THE AMERICA PEOPLE. In other words, the propaganda and lies to the American stupid population did not reach a critical mass. “Selling” the war? What a concept. Do you think if you ask any idiot on the street if the US was invaded by a foreign power, should the president sell to the American people on the fact that our military should attack and repel the invaders? Of course not. But, in order that a President brain wash the sheeple into sending their kids to die for Israel by invading Iraq, the president must paint the Iraqi president as evil, and of course our presstitude will never tell the sheeple that our president is the evil one for invading a sovereign nation that never attacked us.

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    "In August, families of the British soldiers killed in the Iraq War crowd-funded £150,000 (US$194,000) to bring a case for Blair’s prosecution."
    This is a proper step to address the terrible injustice. The US citizenry needs to collects its courage and initiate a case against Cheney & Co, i.e., against the mega-war profiteers & ziocons. https://www.rt.com/uk/395371-tony-blair-prosecution-iraq/
  85. @Michael Kenny
    Cynical me, you may say, but I can't help suspecting that if the White Helmets had been on the same side as Vladimir Putin, there would be no crticism of them on the American internet. After all, when was the last time you saw an article criticising the Ukrainian "rebels"?

    First exposures seem to have a powerful impact.

    In Jan 2012 Emma Alberici interviewed Sergey Lavrov, Russian foreign minister, on Australia TV. He laid out the reasons the Russian government opposed US/UN intervention in Syria, the most significant reason being the sovereignty of Syria and its government. United Nations conventions proscribe interference in the domestic affairs of member states. It was a straightforward judgment.

    US claims to be the nation that “preserves the international order” by adhering to the “rule of law,” but in fact, Russia seems to have been the state sustaining that value.

    Lavrov and the Russian government he represents gained credibility with that interview, and nothing I have seen him or Putin say in the 5 years subsequent, has significantly contradicted that policy laid out in 2012.

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    "US claims to be the nation that “preserves the international order” by adhering to the “rule of law..."
    It does claim this fiction, but the fraud has been exposed and there is no way to "fix" the problem:
    "Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
    Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
    All the king's horses and all the king's men
    Couldn't put Humpty together again"

    "Over 500,000 Syrian Refugees Return To Government-Controlled Areas Of Syria" http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-05/over-500000-syrian-refugees-return-government-controlled-areas-syria
    "Crucial to the Western narrative of the Syrian conflict is the assertion that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is a brutal dictator who has taken to killing his own people over the course of Syria’s six-year-long conflict. ... While this narrative has been pervasive in media coverage of the Syrian conflict, it is now being debunked by the very Syrian refugees.
    According to a recent statement from Andrej Mahecic, a spokesman for the UN High Commissioner for Refugees, an estimated 440,000 displaced Syrians who remained in the country have returned to their homes since the year began. In addition, 31,000 refugees in neighboring countries also returned to Syria in the first half of the year, with 260,000 having returned to Syria from other nations since 2015."
    The Syrians literally vote with their feet, thus exposing the US/Israeli lies.
  86. @Seamus Padraig
    One more point about Clooney: his wife, Amal, is a human rights lawyer from Lebanon. It would be interesting to know more about her background. Maybe one of Unz's regular contributors should take on this assignment. Lebanon is a very complicated place, but it does have both pro- and anti-Syrian factions. I wonder where Amal and her family would fall on this spectrum?

    Maybe Steve Sailer could do it. He did some brilliant pieces last year investigating the links of Mexican gazillionaire Carlos Slim's relatives to the old Lebanese Phalange.

    She’s a deranged leftist flunky working for GS towards the goal of a one-world, no borders, marxist looney-bin, such as her idiot husband and the entire ilk to which they belong: BO, BC, HRC, all of hollywood, academia, the media, clergy, justistia, etc.
    I guess this sort of sums it up, without the effort of a huge research project.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz artist.

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    Obama and Hillary are leftists and marxists? - Don't they love money more than anything else?
    , @Seamus Padraig

    She’s a deranged leftist flunky working for GS towards the goal of a one-world, no borders, marxist looney-bin, such as her idiot husband and the entire ilk to which they belong ...
     
    Oh, I'm sure all that's true, or else George Looney wouldn't have married her. I was just curious about her sympathies and contacts in the middle east specifically.
  87. @SolontoCroesus
    I understand the barrel bombs are aged oak.
    They can be repurposed for wine-making.
    Or charred and recycled for a unique whisky experience.

    In contrast to US missiles used for faux attacks on vacated Syrian airfields, and the ordnance used by Israeli attack jets to kill Syrians.
    These are not recyclable.
    Nobody does ash trays out of missile shells anymore. So 1950s, in the bad sense.
    Very un-environmentally friendly.

    But what would you expect from a president (and his co-conspirators) that pulls out of the Paris climate treaty.
    Oy the shanda.

    ” But what would you expect from a president ( and his co-conspirators) that pulls out of the Paris climate treaty?”

    So you apparently think that the rip-off “climate treaty” was a good thing, (yeah it was a good deal for all of the third-world nations who would be recieving billions in US tax dollars, for nothing), or am I misunderstanding your convoluted, twisted message.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” Society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

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    Hey Mr Saxaphone, that statement was to be played in the key of Irony.
    duh.



    Authenticcroesus “MiniMe” Society member since forever, this close to high school dropout, airhead qualified US life vet, and musical con man.
  88. @Man on the street
    I remember vividly during the Bush attempts to invade Iraq, his neocon surrogates on TV used the terms HE DID NOT SELL IT YET TO THE AMERICA PEOPLE. In other words, the propaganda and lies to the American stupid population did not reach a critical mass. "Selling" the war? What a concept. Do you think if you ask any idiot on the street if the US was invaded by a foreign power, should the president sell to the American people on the fact that our military should attack and repel the invaders? Of course not. But, in order that a President brain wash the sheeple into sending their kids to die for Israel by invading Iraq, the president must paint the Iraqi president as evil, and of course our presstitude will never tell the sheeple that our president is the evil one for invading a sovereign nation that never attacked us.

    “In August, families of the British soldiers killed in the Iraq War crowd-funded £150,000 (US$194,000) to bring a case for Blair’s prosecution.”
    This is a proper step to address the terrible injustice. The US citizenry needs to collects its courage and initiate a case against Cheney & Co, i.e., against the mega-war profiteers & ziocons. https://www.rt.com/uk/395371-tony-blair-prosecution-iraq/

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  89. @SolontoCroesus
    First exposures seem to have a powerful impact.

    In Jan 2012 Emma Alberici interviewed Sergey Lavrov, Russian foreign minister, on Australia TV. He laid out the reasons the Russian government opposed US/UN intervention in Syria, the most significant reason being the sovereignty of Syria and its government. United Nations conventions proscribe interference in the domestic affairs of member states. It was a straightforward judgment.

    US claims to be the nation that "preserves the international order" by adhering to the "rule of law," but in fact, Russia seems to have been the state sustaining that value.

    Lavrov and the Russian government he represents gained credibility with that interview, and nothing I have seen him or Putin say in the 5 years subsequent, has significantly contradicted that policy laid out in 2012.

    “US claims to be the nation that “preserves the international order” by adhering to the “rule of law…”
    It does claim this fiction, but the fraud has been exposed and there is no way to “fix” the problem:
    “Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
    Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
    All the king’s horses and all the king’s men
    Couldn’t put Humpty together again”

    “Over 500,000 Syrian Refugees Return To Government-Controlled Areas Of Syria” http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-05/over-500000-syrian-refugees-return-government-controlled-areas-syria
    “Crucial to the Western narrative of the Syrian conflict is the assertion that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is a brutal dictator who has taken to killing his own people over the course of Syria’s six-year-long conflict. … While this narrative has been pervasive in media coverage of the Syrian conflict, it is now being debunked by the very Syrian refugees.
    According to a recent statement from Andrej Mahecic, a spokesman for the UN High Commissioner for Refugees, an estimated 440,000 displaced Syrians who remained in the country have returned to their homes since the year began. In addition, 31,000 refugees in neighboring countries also returned to Syria in the first half of the year, with 260,000 having returned to Syria from other nations since 2015.”
    The Syrians literally vote with their feet, thus exposing the US/Israeli lies.

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  90. @Authenticjazzman
    She's a deranged leftist flunky working for GS towards the goal of a one-world, no borders, marxist looney-bin, such as her idiot husband and the entire ilk to which they belong: BO, BC, HRC, all of hollywood, academia, the media, clergy, justistia, etc.
    I guess this sort of sums it up, without the effort of a huge research project.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz artist.

    Obama and Hillary are leftists and marxists? – Don’t they love money more than anything else?

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    "O and H are leftists and Marxists-don't they love money more than anything else"

    So just where did you get the idea that marxists/leftists do not not want to accumulate large sums of money which actually equates to = power.

    History is replete with examples of so-called "Communists", who had managed to rake in huge amounts of moola, for example Pablo Picasso the no talent "Painter" who left an estate of a hundred million bucks, after telling the world for fifty years that he was a hard-core marxist.

    The Castro brothers who have been living like kings, surrounded by their serfs since the fifties, are another prime example of millionaire marxists.

    Aside from your other postings you seem to be ill-informed in certain matters and it behooves you to first do your homework before posting such nonsense.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" Society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz artist.
  91. @Authenticjazzman
    " But what would you expect from a president ( and his co-conspirators) that pulls out of the Paris climate treaty?"

    So you apparently think that the rip-off "climate treaty" was a good thing, (yeah it was a good deal for all of the third-world nations who would be recieving billions in US tax dollars, for nothing), or am I misunderstanding your convoluted, twisted message.


    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" Society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    Hey Mr Saxaphone, that statement was to be played in the key of Irony.
    duh.

    Authenticcroesus “MiniMe” Society member since forever, this close to high school dropout, airhead qualified US life vet, and musical con man.

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  92. US-Israeli love fest with Daesh: http://www.voltairenet.org/article196903.html

    “…since the accession to power in Beijing by President Xi Jinping, bearer of the project for the two Silk Roads, Washington has been pushing for the creation of a « Sunnistan » straddling Iraq and Syria. In order to acheive this goal, it [the US] has financed, armed and supervised Daesh in order to cut the communication route between Beirut-Damascus-Baghdad-Teheran and Beijing.
    … since the beginning of the Qatar crisis, the Iraqi and Syrian armies have suddenly advanced. They have liberated the frontier territories previously held by Daesh and are now on the verge of establishing their junction (in other words, reconnecting the Silk Road). The two armies are now separated only by two hundred metres of land controlled illegally by the US army.”

    The bloodshed could be ended any time if not the Israel-occupied US Congress. They need more human meat & blood. Here, James LeMesurier and Anna Nolan come up handy, fed from the $100 million fund allocated by the US/EU “deciders” to spread propaganda against Syrian sovereignty. That was a backdrop for the opportunistic Orlando von Einsiedel and Joanna Natasegara (neither of them ever visited Syria) getting happily their shekels for propagandizing fakery of “White Helmets,” never mind the human cost of Daesh for Syria.

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  93. @Ludwig Watzal
    It's not surprising that the largest fake-factory on earth, Hollywood, awarded an OSCAR to a fake documentary. The "White Helmets" are nothing but terrorists disguised as paramedics. After the terrorists had to leave Aleppo, the "White Helmets" also disappeared. Wherever there is a terrorist attack, the phony helpers appear. Foreign powers created the White Helmets, and with the collaboration of the mainstream media, they could succeed till they finally landed in Hollywood where they belong. Unsurprisingly, Hillary Clinton and George Clooney liked these hoodlums, which should not surprise anybody. At least, Hillary and her husband belong behind bars.

    http://ahtribune.com/world/north-africa-south-west-asia/syria-crisis/1531-white-helmets-oscar.html

    After the terrorists had to leave Aleppo, the “White Helmets” also disappeared.

    Naturally. You’ve probably noticed by now that the White Helmets only appear where the ‘rebels’ are. That’s because the ‘rebels’ won’t allow the Red Crescent to operate in their zones, making sure we get no objective casualty reports.

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  94. @Authenticjazzman
    She's a deranged leftist flunky working for GS towards the goal of a one-world, no borders, marxist looney-bin, such as her idiot husband and the entire ilk to which they belong: BO, BC, HRC, all of hollywood, academia, the media, clergy, justistia, etc.
    I guess this sort of sums it up, without the effort of a huge research project.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz artist.

    She’s a deranged leftist flunky working for GS towards the goal of a one-world, no borders, marxist looney-bin, such as her idiot husband and the entire ilk to which they belong …

    Oh, I’m sure all that’s true, or else George Looney wouldn’t have married her. I was just curious about her sympathies and contacts in the middle east specifically.

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  95. Let’s be clear;

    The “white helmets” are a propaganda operation backed by those countries trying to effect regime change in Syria, such as the ZUSA & ZUK, and they are also Al Qaeda’s “civil defense”.

    I have seen various photos of their operatives in white helmet uniforms & in other photos the same individuals armed & in combat fatigues.

    Independent British journalist, Vanessa Beeley, who has been to Syria has helped unmask these criminals;
    SYRIA WHITE HELMETS HAND IN HAND WITH AL QAEDA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBkn78q_t_Q

    In this vid, we can see the white helmets together with Al Qaeda, participating in executions, etc;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLyZkPfLoG0

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    • Replies: @Ben_C
    Yep...

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-white-helmets-clean-following-rebel-execution-southern-syria-18-graphic/

    Don't forget this little incident:

    https://rachelblevins.com/2017/06/21/gruesome-video-white-helmets-beheading-dumping-syrian-army-bodies/
  96. http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/when-fake-countries-go-to-war/

    Some nations are real nations with deep roots of history, ethnicity, and territory.
    Other nations are fake nations, recently constructed by foreign imperialists who drew lines on the map to maximize exploitation of natural resources and labor.

    Globalism seeks to weaken historical roots, ethnic ties, and territorial claims for the whole world(except for Israel) and turn even real nations into fake nations like those of Middle East and Africa.

    If Soros can help it, Hungary, Czech Republic, and Poland will also become country clubs of globalist elites who replace native folks with foreign minions.

    There are plenty of turncoat comprador elites even in real nations who’d gladly take 30 pieces of silver to rub shoulders with the glamorites of the world.

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  97. @exiled off mainstreet
    The first comment has it spot on. Hollywood is complicit in this propaganda effort to give the terrorist thug element a human face. These facts are out there for anybody not totally dependent on the official power structure for their information. People like Clooney who support this are themselves tainted with the barbarism represented by this phony propaganda front, and NGO's and governments funding them are complicit in war crimes and crimes against humanity. Clooney's pet project, Darfur and South Sudan are other failed states. Clooney has blood on his hands for having promoted their existence.

    You just described exactly what is the subject matter of an independent movie and graphic novel that I’m trying in vain to get funded. Besides the obvious reasons that 95% of my media-related friends are ultra liberals (anti-truth) and the general cognitive dissonance of our society to the abject poverty of education to university debt-financed amongst young people that verges on state sponsored sleep entrainment depicted in Brave New World.

    Anyway, my project has been shunned officially and unofficially; a known Hollywood actor asked me upon reading the script whether I thought it would be controversial? Hell, yes! Except why do you say that? Well you kind of lay out the plan.. It is definitely an awareness thing via social media amongst millenials recorded by Mark Dice; in short, they don’t read books, they have no idea of world events, founding fathers, constitution, can’t tell you what DC means in Washington, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. One young white man knew a lot; another 40 year old white woman quoted verbatim the Declaration of Independence. The rest didn’t know what he was talking about.

    Anyway, have a look. I don’t expect you to contribute because it’s DOA but wouldn’t mind honest feedback, i.e., am I living in a bubble I created for myself?

    https://igg.me/at/chasm-project-url/x/16732400

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    DOA? Killed my interest with reference to ZioNazi Roseanne Barr as "truth teller." Get a grip.
  98. @Alister
    Funded by USAID......it's clear they are nothing more than a CIA front.... why no one does an in depth review of the links between USAID and the CIA.....they will find they are one and the same. It's time for UNZ to uncover the real USAID.

    Funded by USAID……it’s clear they are nothing more than a CIA front…. why no one does an in depth review of the links between USAID and the CIA…..they will find they are one and the same. It’s time for UNZ to uncover the real USAID

    .

    Now that would be journalism worth its salt. Absolutely. USAID started as a CIA front in Vietnam during the 60s. Ruth Paine, “friend” of Marina Oswald, had a father named William Avery Hyde, who worked at USAID at least partly because it was tied in with the CIA. So did other members of her family. I know someone who worked briefly at USAID, and would get questions from the public asking for info on projects from the 1960s. There were almost no records. We’r talking the 1960s, not the last century. There should have been the usual memos, advance reports, technical briefs, assessments, etc. Nearly nada, at least among the non-top-secret documents and archives. Only from the mid-70s on, around the time the CIA and various assassinations were looked at critically by Congress, did this agency keep good records of its activities.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    The "1984" has been a conduit for the US "deciders" for so long that they have lost a sense of reality (whereas a sense of decency is not familiar for them at all). Here is an amazing sample of official idiocy: http://www.globalresearch.ca/fake-news-us-backed-forces-blast-through-8th-century-syrian-wall-to-fight-isis/5597701

    "The Rafiqah Wall, first constructed in the 8th century by the Abbasid dynasty, is reported to be over 12 feet high, over a meter thick and stretches over 3 miles around the old city.
    ... the advancement of Syrian troops made the wall a trap that could have allowed the ISIS fighters to be completely wiped out. The US-backed forces, fronted by the so-called “Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF)”, appeared to come to ISIS’s rescue. According to a July 3, 2017 TIME article(1), ISIS fighters had taken positions there “to defend the city [sic]” and planted explosive devices at what the article described as “breaks in the wall.”
    On the night of July 3rd, the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM), claimed that SDF had “found a way” through the historic wall at “the most heavily-fortified portion of Raqqa”; two 25 meter-long breaches had been blasted through it. The article claimed that the two “small” — almost 100-foot — gaps “will help preserve the remainder of the overall 2,500-meter wall...”
    A fine example of ZUSA reasoning: call the ISIS supporters the "moderate" jihadis (SDF) and call the blast of an ancient monument a "preservation."

  99. @Montag
    You just described exactly what is the subject matter of an independent movie and graphic novel that I'm trying in vain to get funded. Besides the obvious reasons that 95% of my media-related friends are ultra liberals (anti-truth) and the general cognitive dissonance of our society to the abject poverty of education to university debt-financed amongst young people that verges on state sponsored sleep entrainment depicted in Brave New World.

    Anyway, my project has been shunned officially and unofficially; a known Hollywood actor asked me upon reading the script whether I thought it would be controversial? Hell, yes! Except why do you say that? Well you kind of lay out the plan.. It is definitely an awareness thing via social media amongst millenials recorded by Mark Dice; in short, they don't read books, they have no idea of world events, founding fathers, constitution, can't tell you what DC means in Washington, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. One young white man knew a lot; another 40 year old white woman quoted verbatim the Declaration of Independence. The rest didn't know what he was talking about.

    Anyway, have a look. I don't expect you to contribute because it's DOA but wouldn't mind honest feedback, i.e., am I living in a bubble I created for myself?

    https://igg.me/at/chasm-project-url/x/16732400

    DOA? Killed my interest with reference to ZioNazi Roseanne Barr as “truth teller.” Get a grip.

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  100. For those who may remain unconvinced, Insurge Intelligence (self-described as “a crowdfunded investigative journalism project for people and planet”) has acquired 1000s of documents that lift the veil on just how deeply the USM and CIA are embedded in its productions. In a word, very.

    https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/exclusive-documents-expose-direct-us-military-intelligence-influence-on-1-800-movies-and-tv-shows-36433107c307

    We live in a simulacrum created by others, in accordance with an agenda they too are following blindly.

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  101. isn’t it rich, isn’t strange, that hollywood types influence naive americans. ill-informed and over-respected types such as george clooney and justin timberlake inflate a narrative of good in the evil of the syrian war crime. why hasn’t america demanded an end to extended war-making? the media. that’s why.
    steppenwolf sang goddam the pusher.
    of thee i sing.

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  102. @L.K
    Let's be clear;

    The "white helmets" are a propaganda operation backed by those countries trying to effect regime change in Syria, such as the ZUSA & ZUK, and they are also Al Qaeda's "civil defense".

    I have seen various photos of their operatives in white helmet uniforms & in other photos the same individuals armed & in combat fatigues.

    Independent British journalist, Vanessa Beeley, who has been to Syria has helped unmask these criminals;
    SYRIA WHITE HELMETS HAND IN HAND WITH AL QAEDA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBkn78q_t_Q
    In this vid, we can see the white helmets together with Al Qaeda, participating in executions, etc;
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLyZkPfLoG0
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  103. @Wally
    Exactly.

    Just like the laughably impossible '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers'.
    There's no business like 'shoah' business'.

    see:
    The Holocaustian Propaganda-Campaign against Bashar al-Assad
    http://codoh.com/library/document/4764/?lang=en

    The 'holocau$t' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are laughable, scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    I bet you have small hands.

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  104. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwGRvsSGbuM

    ROTFL. These guys says the US policy has been anti-Iran but its follies keep aiding Iran inadvertently.

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  105. Just because we on UNZ are not idiots (most of us) and can dismiss this bs for what it is, doesn’t mean the vast majority of americans arent. People nowadays don’t read anything besides social media. This country’s populace just doesn’t care anymore, they’ve given up fighting to be free. Most just want to trust big brother and uncle sam to have their back, when in reality, nothing could be further from the truth. Years and years of tv programming (the actual shows and the subliminal messages) have robbed most americans of the will power needed to keep an out of controll government in check. They just dont care anymore. And if they start to question whats going on, they are called crazy or delusional, or (my personal favorite) a conspiracy theorist.

    We need to do something. Organize and take back our nation. Remove our out of controll spy agencies, stop funding every third world nation in africa (if they cant support them selves, let them die or be someone elses problem. The money could go to so many more important things stateside), no more Foreign Military financing to other nations (if they want to buy our weapons, great! Pay US in cash, gold, silver, whatever. Just pay us. No more freebies(im looking at the 5 billion a year to isreal and Egypt)), we need to bring our soldiers home, and have them do what we pay other nations do do with the training we also provide (border security), we need to dismantle our lobbyist political environment by having all elected officials have all finacial transactions and property become public record (all of it).

    We desperately need to STAND UP as a United group. I know im not the only one who feels this way, but alone i can only do so much. I’ve tried to spread awareness to people i know IRL, but it always spins back to either they dont care, the MSM told them the “truth” of the matter, or im crazy for not wanting perpetual war with nations 95% of americans couldnt find on a map. Thats why we as a group, the politically aware on sites such as this, need to start grouping up and using our wits and weight ro make an impact.

    We all don’t agree on the finer specifics of why this nation is broken, but we all agree its broken.

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    • Replies: @Talha
    Hey D Snail,

    We desperately need to STAND UP as a United group. I know im not the only one who feels this way, but alone i can only do so much. I’ve tried to spread awareness to people i know IRL, but it always spins back to either they dont care, the MSM told them the “truth” of the matter, or im crazy for not wanting perpetual war with nations 95% of americans couldnt find on a map.
     
    This is very important. A very simple proposition; start with one's family (especially kids) and possibly extended family. This requires patience and kindness and a very thick skin to be able to take criticism and be flexible on the minor issues for the bigger picture. Two key things; 1) make absolutely sure they don't see you as a threat but rather someone who has their best interests in mind (and if you sincerely approach them with that intention, then you will already come at them in a non-threatening manner) and 2) do not act hypocritically or cause them to lose confidence in the veracity of what you are saying - speak the truth, even when it's against you.

    If one cannot deprogram their own family or keep them from becoming part of the rot - especially their own kids - then the writing is on the wall. The only strangers you'll be able to "convince" are mostly those that agree with much of what you say anyway - and that doesn't help much.

    Right now, helping people live traditional, wholesome lives is revolutionary. If you have convinced your kid about how foul the government's foreign policy is - that's awesome. But if his 3rd marriage is in the tank because he just can't get over his gambling and porn addictions - he's not going to be able to contribute to us going anywhere as a society.

    Peace.

  106. @dcite

    Funded by USAID……it’s clear they are nothing more than a CIA front…. why no one does an in depth review of the links between USAID and the CIA…..they will find they are one and the same. It’s time for UNZ to uncover the real USAID
     
    .

    Now that would be journalism worth its salt. Absolutely. USAID started as a CIA front in Vietnam during the 60s. Ruth Paine, "friend" of Marina Oswald, had a father named William Avery Hyde, who worked at USAID at least partly because it was tied in with the CIA. So did other members of her family. I know someone who worked briefly at USAID, and would get questions from the public asking for info on projects from the 1960s. There were almost no records. We'r talking the 1960s, not the last century. There should have been the usual memos, advance reports, technical briefs, assessments, etc. Nearly nada, at least among the non-top-secret documents and archives. Only from the mid-70s on, around the time the CIA and various assassinations were looked at critically by Congress, did this agency keep good records of its activities.

    The “1984″ has been a conduit for the US “deciders” for so long that they have lost a sense of reality (whereas a sense of decency is not familiar for them at all). Here is an amazing sample of official idiocy: http://www.globalresearch.ca/fake-news-us-backed-forces-blast-through-8th-century-syrian-wall-to-fight-isis/5597701

    “The Rafiqah Wall, first constructed in the 8th century by the Abbasid dynasty, is reported to be over 12 feet high, over a meter thick and stretches over 3 miles around the old city.
    … the advancement of Syrian troops made the wall a trap that could have allowed the ISIS fighters to be completely wiped out. The US-backed forces, fronted by the so-called “Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF)”, appeared to come to ISIS’s rescue. According to a July 3, 2017 TIME article(1), ISIS fighters had taken positions there “to defend the city [sic]” and planted explosive devices at what the article described as “breaks in the wall.”
    On the night of July 3rd, the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM), claimed that SDF had “found a way” through the historic wall at “the most heavily-fortified portion of Raqqa”; two 25 meter-long breaches had been blasted through it. The article claimed that the two “small” — almost 100-foot — gaps “will help preserve the remainder of the overall 2,500-meter wall…”
    A fine example of ZUSA reasoning: call the ISIS supporters the “moderate” jihadis (SDF) and call the blast of an ancient monument a “preservation.”

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  107. @Delinquent Snail
    Just because we on UNZ are not idiots (most of us) and can dismiss this bs for what it is, doesn't mean the vast majority of americans arent. People nowadays don't read anything besides social media. This country's populace just doesn't care anymore, they've given up fighting to be free. Most just want to trust big brother and uncle sam to have their back, when in reality, nothing could be further from the truth. Years and years of tv programming (the actual shows and the subliminal messages) have robbed most americans of the will power needed to keep an out of controll government in check. They just dont care anymore. And if they start to question whats going on, they are called crazy or delusional, or (my personal favorite) a conspiracy theorist.

    We need to do something. Organize and take back our nation. Remove our out of controll spy agencies, stop funding every third world nation in africa (if they cant support them selves, let them die or be someone elses problem. The money could go to so many more important things stateside), no more Foreign Military financing to other nations (if they want to buy our weapons, great! Pay US in cash, gold, silver, whatever. Just pay us. No more freebies(im looking at the 5 billion a year to isreal and Egypt)), we need to bring our soldiers home, and have them do what we pay other nations do do with the training we also provide (border security), we need to dismantle our lobbyist political environment by having all elected officials have all finacial transactions and property become public record (all of it).

    We desperately need to STAND UP as a United group. I know im not the only one who feels this way, but alone i can only do so much. I've tried to spread awareness to people i know IRL, but it always spins back to either they dont care, the MSM told them the "truth" of the matter, or im crazy for not wanting perpetual war with nations 95% of americans couldnt find on a map. Thats why we as a group, the politically aware on sites such as this, need to start grouping up and using our wits and weight ro make an impact.



    We all don't agree on the finer specifics of why this nation is broken, but we all agree its broken.

    Hey D Snail,

    We desperately need to STAND UP as a United group. I know im not the only one who feels this way, but alone i can only do so much. I’ve tried to spread awareness to people i know IRL, but it always spins back to either they dont care, the MSM told them the “truth” of the matter, or im crazy for not wanting perpetual war with nations 95% of americans couldnt find on a map.

    This is very important. A very simple proposition; start with one’s family (especially kids) and possibly extended family. This requires patience and kindness and a very thick skin to be able to take criticism and be flexible on the minor issues for the bigger picture. Two key things; 1) make absolutely sure they don’t see you as a threat but rather someone who has their best interests in mind (and if you sincerely approach them with that intention, then you will already come at them in a non-threatening manner) and 2) do not act hypocritically or cause them to lose confidence in the veracity of what you are saying – speak the truth, even when it’s against you.

    If one cannot deprogram their own family or keep them from becoming part of the rot – especially their own kids – then the writing is on the wall. The only strangers you’ll be able to “convince” are mostly those that agree with much of what you say anyway – and that doesn’t help much.

    Right now, helping people live traditional, wholesome lives is revolutionary. If you have convinced your kid about how foul the government’s foreign policy is – that’s awesome. But if his 3rd marriage is in the tank because he just can’t get over his gambling and porn addictions – he’s not going to be able to contribute to us going anywhere as a society.

    Peace.

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    • Replies: @Delinquent Snail
    Thank you for the reply and the proposition. I agree you need to start with family. Thats where i began. Family memebers over 35 have been fed so much contradicting information for decades, so they are just unwilling to beleive anything outside the box thats been constructed around them. People under 35 are usually just uncaring, or plain dumb (a combination of our broken education system, and television).

    As for your points: 1, this is a big thing that i cant over come. As soon as i start talking about politics or any issue thats serious (economic, environmental, whatever) eyes gloss over or they respond indignantly, as if they as individuals are the ones causing the problem and im making them see the error of thier own ways (which im not). It all comes back to people being tired and not caring.

    Point 2, this is a big one too. Hypocrisy will ruin any logical argument. Truth is truth, regardless of perspective. Uncomfortable truths still need to be discussed, they cant be swept under the rug.

    Luckily my children are still under 10, so i dont have to worry about divorces, gambling problems or porn addiction anytime soon (hopefully).

    None of this changes the fact that us (the politically active and aware) are doing almost nothing except bickering with each other in forums online, instead of actively trying to change this once great nation. I don't want my son to be a slave to the state. I dont want my daughter to be a slave to the state. I want them to be able to live and prosper as they see fit, not some shadowy cabal that "knows best" for the entire human race.
  108. @annamaria
    Obama and Hillary are leftists and marxists? - Don't they love money more than anything else?

    “O and H are leftists and Marxists-don’t they love money more than anything else”

    So just where did you get the idea that marxists/leftists do not not want to accumulate large sums of money which actually equates to = power.

    History is replete with examples of so-called “Communists”, who had managed to rake in huge amounts of moola, for example Pablo Picasso the no talent “Painter” who left an estate of a hundred million bucks, after telling the world for fifty years that he was a hard-core marxist.

    The Castro brothers who have been living like kings, surrounded by their serfs since the fifties, are another prime example of millionaire marxists.

    Aside from your other postings you seem to be ill-informed in certain matters and it behooves you to first do your homework before posting such nonsense.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” Society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz artist.

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    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    To LK : Okay be specific, instead of posting a worn out Cliche' such as : Troll

    If you disagree with my post, then simply give your reasons, instead of employing the typical underhanded leftist action of attacking my person.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jazz musician.
  109. @Talha
    Hey D Snail,

    We desperately need to STAND UP as a United group. I know im not the only one who feels this way, but alone i can only do so much. I’ve tried to spread awareness to people i know IRL, but it always spins back to either they dont care, the MSM told them the “truth” of the matter, or im crazy for not wanting perpetual war with nations 95% of americans couldnt find on a map.
     
    This is very important. A very simple proposition; start with one's family (especially kids) and possibly extended family. This requires patience and kindness and a very thick skin to be able to take criticism and be flexible on the minor issues for the bigger picture. Two key things; 1) make absolutely sure they don't see you as a threat but rather someone who has their best interests in mind (and if you sincerely approach them with that intention, then you will already come at them in a non-threatening manner) and 2) do not act hypocritically or cause them to lose confidence in the veracity of what you are saying - speak the truth, even when it's against you.

    If one cannot deprogram their own family or keep them from becoming part of the rot - especially their own kids - then the writing is on the wall. The only strangers you'll be able to "convince" are mostly those that agree with much of what you say anyway - and that doesn't help much.

    Right now, helping people live traditional, wholesome lives is revolutionary. If you have convinced your kid about how foul the government's foreign policy is - that's awesome. But if his 3rd marriage is in the tank because he just can't get over his gambling and porn addictions - he's not going to be able to contribute to us going anywhere as a society.

    Peace.

    Thank you for the reply and the proposition. I agree you need to start with family. Thats where i began. Family memebers over 35 have been fed so much contradicting information for decades, so they are just unwilling to beleive anything outside the box thats been constructed around them. People under 35 are usually just uncaring, or plain dumb (a combination of our broken education system, and television).

    As for your points: 1, this is a big thing that i cant over come. As soon as i start talking about politics or any issue thats serious (economic, environmental, whatever) eyes gloss over or they respond indignantly, as if they as individuals are the ones causing the problem and im making them see the error of thier own ways (which im not). It all comes back to people being tired and not caring.

    Point 2, this is a big one too. Hypocrisy will ruin any logical argument. Truth is truth, regardless of perspective. Uncomfortable truths still need to be discussed, they cant be swept under the rug.

    Luckily my children are still under 10, so i dont have to worry about divorces, gambling problems or porn addiction anytime soon (hopefully).

    None of this changes the fact that us (the politically active and aware) are doing almost nothing except bickering with each other in forums online, instead of actively trying to change this once great nation. I don’t want my son to be a slave to the state. I dont want my daughter to be a slave to the state. I want them to be able to live and prosper as they see fit, not some shadowy cabal that “knows best” for the entire human race.

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  110. @Tallulah B
    This is acceptable. Dead Arabs - killed by other Arabs - are pefect 'thematic' material to prove the goodness and humanity of real people - in Hollywood, or Tel Aviv. Like so much of everywhere else on Earth "they've been killing each other for thousands of years" - as opposed to, merely shooting a stone thrower, dispersing rioting negroes or shooting-up the local disco.

    Absolutely, to have such an award, if you can call it that, there has to be something that shows how most of them are evil compared to us, the eternal victims! Our free F-16s, tanks, missiles, and machine guns are no match to their evil and barbaric pebbles. After all this “sad” documentary will mainly be watched by our caboodles in the West, affirming how HUMANE and civilized we are, and thus GOD chose us….

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    "most of them are evil compared to us"

    Well, "Former fiancée of Ambassador Chris Stevens exposes skeletons in Hillary's closet:" https://www.sott.net/article/355735-Former-fiancee-of-Ambassador-Chris-Stevens-exposes-skeletons-in-Hillarys-closet
    "A number of suspicious deaths occurred during the lawsuit against the DNC and their alleged ploy against Bernie Sanders, for which many wondered if the Clintons or the DNC were responsible.
    The attorney who served the DNC with this particular lawsuit, Shawn Lucas, was found dead on his bathroom floor. Keep in mind that this was only one of five deaths related to this case in the span of six weeks. Clinton author Victor Thorn allegedly "shot himself", UN official John Ashe (who was set to testify against the Clintons and the DNC) mysteriously died, writer Mike Flynn (who was writing a piece condemning the Clintons) died, and DNC staff member Seth Rich was murdered (who was on his way to testify against the Clintons and the DNC)."
  111. @truthtellerAryan
    Absolutely, to have such an award, if you can call it that, there has to be something that shows how most of them are evil compared to us, the eternal victims! Our free F-16s, tanks, missiles, and machine guns are no match to their evil and barbaric pebbles. After all this "sad" documentary will mainly be watched by our caboodles in the West, affirming how HUMANE and civilized we are, and thus GOD chose us....

    “most of them are evil compared to us”

    Well, “Former fiancée of Ambassador Chris Stevens exposes skeletons in Hillary’s closet:” https://www.sott.net/article/355735-Former-fiancee-of-Ambassador-Chris-Stevens-exposes-skeletons-in-Hillarys-closet
    “A number of suspicious deaths occurred during the lawsuit against the DNC and their alleged ploy against Bernie Sanders, for which many wondered if the Clintons or the DNC were responsible.
    The attorney who served the DNC with this particular lawsuit, Shawn Lucas, was found dead on his bathroom floor. Keep in mind that this was only one of five deaths related to this case in the span of six weeks. Clinton author Victor Thorn allegedly “shot himself”, UN official John Ashe (who was set to testify against the Clintons and the DNC) mysteriously died, writer Mike Flynn (who was writing a piece condemning the Clintons) died, and DNC staff member Seth Rich was murdered (who was on his way to testify against the Clintons and the DNC).”

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    Hillary Clinton was responsible for Chris Stevens' death in more ways than one. She exploded Libya, then had Stevens working the ratline of arms and jihadis to Syria.

    Is there proof that Seth Rich "was on his way to testify against the Clintons and the DNC" as this fiancée alleges?
    , @Talha
    Dag yo - who says Italians are the only people living the thugg lyfe!

    Peace.
  112. @annamaria
    "most of them are evil compared to us"

    Well, "Former fiancée of Ambassador Chris Stevens exposes skeletons in Hillary's closet:" https://www.sott.net/article/355735-Former-fiancee-of-Ambassador-Chris-Stevens-exposes-skeletons-in-Hillarys-closet
    "A number of suspicious deaths occurred during the lawsuit against the DNC and their alleged ploy against Bernie Sanders, for which many wondered if the Clintons or the DNC were responsible.
    The attorney who served the DNC with this particular lawsuit, Shawn Lucas, was found dead on his bathroom floor. Keep in mind that this was only one of five deaths related to this case in the span of six weeks. Clinton author Victor Thorn allegedly "shot himself", UN official John Ashe (who was set to testify against the Clintons and the DNC) mysteriously died, writer Mike Flynn (who was writing a piece condemning the Clintons) died, and DNC staff member Seth Rich was murdered (who was on his way to testify against the Clintons and the DNC)."

    Hillary Clinton was responsible for Chris Stevens’ death in more ways than one. She exploded Libya, then had Stevens working the ratline of arms and jihadis to Syria.

    Is there proof that Seth Rich “was on his way to testify against the Clintons and the DNC” as this fiancée alleges?

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    • Replies: @Delinquent Snail
    That quote is misleading. He was gunned down in the early morning on his way home. The police that arrived had body cams, seth was responsive and unawares he was shot. He died some time later at an undisclosed hospital. If it were a black man that died like that, those body cams would habe been released within the week. The whole thing is fishy.

    As for The testifing against the clintons, this is a new development to me. Wouldn't surprise me tho, the clintons are about as corrupt as they come, murder isnt even a stretch.
  113. @annamaria
    "most of them are evil compared to us"

    Well, "Former fiancée of Ambassador Chris Stevens exposes skeletons in Hillary's closet:" https://www.sott.net/article/355735-Former-fiancee-of-Ambassador-Chris-Stevens-exposes-skeletons-in-Hillarys-closet
    "A number of suspicious deaths occurred during the lawsuit against the DNC and their alleged ploy against Bernie Sanders, for which many wondered if the Clintons or the DNC were responsible.
    The attorney who served the DNC with this particular lawsuit, Shawn Lucas, was found dead on his bathroom floor. Keep in mind that this was only one of five deaths related to this case in the span of six weeks. Clinton author Victor Thorn allegedly "shot himself", UN official John Ashe (who was set to testify against the Clintons and the DNC) mysteriously died, writer Mike Flynn (who was writing a piece condemning the Clintons) died, and DNC staff member Seth Rich was murdered (who was on his way to testify against the Clintons and the DNC)."

    Dag yo – who says Italians are the only people living the thugg lyfe!

    Peace.

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  114. @RobinG
    Hillary Clinton was responsible for Chris Stevens' death in more ways than one. She exploded Libya, then had Stevens working the ratline of arms and jihadis to Syria.

    Is there proof that Seth Rich "was on his way to testify against the Clintons and the DNC" as this fiancée alleges?

    That quote is misleading. He was gunned down in the early morning on his way home. The police that arrived had body cams, seth was responsive and unawares he was shot. He died some time later at an undisclosed hospital. If it were a black man that died like that, those body cams would habe been released within the week. The whole thing is fishy.

    As for The testifing against the clintons, this is a new development to me. Wouldn’t surprise me tho, the clintons are about as corrupt as they come, murder isnt even a stretch.

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  115. @Authenticjazzman
    "O and H are leftists and Marxists-don't they love money more than anything else"

    So just where did you get the idea that marxists/leftists do not not want to accumulate large sums of money which actually equates to = power.

    History is replete with examples of so-called "Communists", who had managed to rake in huge amounts of moola, for example Pablo Picasso the no talent "Painter" who left an estate of a hundred million bucks, after telling the world for fifty years that he was a hard-core marxist.

    The Castro brothers who have been living like kings, surrounded by their serfs since the fifties, are another prime example of millionaire marxists.

    Aside from your other postings you seem to be ill-informed in certain matters and it behooves you to first do your homework before posting such nonsense.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" Society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz artist.

    To LK : Okay be specific, instead of posting a worn out Cliche’ such as : Troll

    If you disagree with my post, then simply give your reasons, instead of employing the typical underhanded leftist action of attacking my person.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jazz musician.

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    • Replies: @L.K
    "the typical underhanded leftist action..."

    Big yawwnnnn...

    You cannot see an inch beyond this left X right BS.
  116. @Anon
    Why would Israel be against Assad? With him, there's no chance of a peace treat and Israel keeps the Golan. Status quo and no fighting is what Israel likes.

    Assads Syria links Iran to Libanons hizbollah (and palestinian Hamas), and top priority for Israel is toppling the iranian regime. Iran, syria and hizbollah (and the palestinians) are non-compliant actors in the region, while almost all other arab States are de facto allied with Israel/USA.

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  117. @Authenticjazzman
    To LK : Okay be specific, instead of posting a worn out Cliche' such as : Troll

    If you disagree with my post, then simply give your reasons, instead of employing the typical underhanded leftist action of attacking my person.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jazz musician.

    “the typical underhanded leftist action…”

    Big yawwnnnn…

    You cannot see an inch beyond this left X right BS.

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    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    " you cannot see an inch beyond the left X right BS"

    And you are intellectually unable to grasp my message.

    Look I don't give a shit about "Left/Right" labeling other than as a means to categorize the actions and behaviors of certain groupings.

    And individuals/groupings which fall under the categorization of : "Leftist", meaning SJW, Marxists, Socialists, etc, these individuals/groupings define themselves through their typical employment of "Underhandedness", blatent dishonesty and downright crudeness.

    The other side has it's share of shitty conduct, however the "Leftists" are the world champions, basta.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

  118. @Anon
    Anarchy in Syria doesn't serve Israel. Anarchy anywhere doesn't serve Israel. Managed chaos is one thing, and that may be why they funded the FSA for a while, but total anarchy is dangerous. For all its faults, Israel is still a rational actor. Plus, it has no need for the rest of Golan; the heights are all that are necessary.

    Anarchy in Syria doesn’t serve Israel
    Who are you kidding? Killing and destruction is exactly the Zionists’ dream of its neighbors, I guess they’re buying time, that’s a gypsy culture, steal as much and move on.
    They’ll never live among each other. Leeches always look for a host to thrive on. Israel is just a little swampy pool where they digest their meal before they go to another host, the swamp is just an excuse since they can feed on both ends.
    Places where the tribe was relatively thriving and lived in peace for millennia has become the target of their greed. Treachery has no honor.
    The gobbling of The West Bank by these leeches is exactly what we are doing as pre-digestion in the rest of ME for the Zionists vultures to feast

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  119. @Anon
    Anarchy in Syria doesn't serve Israel. Anarchy anywhere doesn't serve Israel. Managed chaos is one thing, and that may be why they funded the FSA for a while, but total anarchy is dangerous. For all its faults, Israel is still a rational actor. Plus, it has no need for the rest of Golan; the heights are all that are necessary.

    Israel is still a rational actor

    I suppose so.

    But only if you call a nation of neurotic, money-obsessed, religiously-deranged, hyper-victim-mentality, war-mongering, White-hating billionaire psycopaths utterly divorced from any understanding of the real world “rational” . I don’t.

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  120. @tmauel
    Amy Goodman at Democracy Now has completely sold out to the White Helmets propaganda machine which is funded by the U.S. state department. Apparently Goodman cannot bother to investigate the links to the rebels and U.S. clandestine funding of their propaganda. After all Goodman is so stuck on herself and her own star power that she doesn't care a lick about the truth.
    She has consistently sold out to the democrats and their ignorant uber wealthy supporters in Hollywood.

    I hope you don’t need telling that her permanent, overriding loyalties are obvious and unchanging – given that “Goodman” is a 100% western Jewish surname.

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  121. @L.K
    "the typical underhanded leftist action..."

    Big yawwnnnn...

    You cannot see an inch beyond this left X right BS.

    ” you cannot see an inch beyond the left X right BS”

    And you are intellectually unable to grasp my message.

    Look I don’t give a shit about “Left/Right” labeling other than as a means to categorize the actions and behaviors of certain groupings.

    And individuals/groupings which fall under the categorization of : “Leftist”, meaning SJW, Marxists, Socialists, etc, these individuals/groupings define themselves through their typical employment of “Underhandedness”, blatent dishonesty and downright crudeness.

    The other side has it’s share of shitty conduct, however the “Leftists” are the world champions, basta.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

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  122. You are punch of stupid anti imperialist zombies. Regardless about what you say, these people are civillians who didicated thier life to save people.

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    Strange. I'm not at all sure what I can say to a person who has comprehensively MISSED the entire point of the article - which is, that there is a wealth of hard irrefutable EVIDENCE that they are nothing of the sort.
  123. @Adrian
    You are punch of stupid anti imperialist zombies. Regardless about what you say, these people are civillians who didicated thier life to save people.

    Strange. I’m not at all sure what I can say to a person who has comprehensively MISSED the entire point of the article – which is, that there is a wealth of hard irrefutable EVIDENCE that they are nothing of the sort.

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