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Many believe that the easily observable dominance of the friends of Israel over some aspects of government policy is a phenomenon unique to the United States, where committed Jews and Christian Zionists are able to control both politicians and the media message relating to what is going on in the Middle East. Unfortunately, the reality is that there exists an “Israel Lobby” in many countries, all dedicated to advancing the agendas promoted by successive Israeli governments no matter what the actual interests of the host country might be. Failure to confront Israel’s crimes against humanity combined with an inability to resist its demands regarding how issues like anti-Semitism and hate speech are defined has done terrible damage to free speech in Western Europe and, most notably, in the Anglophone world.

For the United States this corruption of the media and the political process by Israel has meant endless wars in the Middle East as well of loss of civil liberties at home, but some other countries have compromised their own declared values far beyond that. Former Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper praised Israel completely inaccurately as a light that “…burns bright, upheld by the universal principles of all civilized nations – freedom, democracy justice.” He has also said “I will defend Israel whatever the cost” to Canada, an assertion that some might regard as very, very odd for a Canadian head of state.

In some other cases, Israel plays hardball directly, threatening retribution against governments that do not fall in line. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu recently warned New Zealand that backing a U.N. resolution condemning Israeli settlements would be a “declaration of war.” He was able to do so because he had confidence in the power of the Israel Lobby in that country to mobilize and produce the desired result.

It might surprise some that the “Mother of Parliaments” in Great Britain is perhaps the legislative body most dominated by Israeli interests, more in many respects than the Congress in the United States. The ruling Conservative Party has a Friends of Israel caucus that includes more than 80% of its Parliamentary membership. BICOM , the Britain Israel Communications and Research Centre, is an American Israel Political Action Committee (AIPAC) clone located in London. It is well funded and politically powerful, working through its various “Friends of Israel” proxies. Americans might be surprised to learn how that power is manifest, including that in Britain Jewish organizations uniquely are allowed to patrol heavily Jewish London neighborhoods in police-like uniforms while driving police-type vehicles. There have been reports of the patrols threatening Muslims who seek to enter the areas.

Prime Minister Theresa May is careful never to offend either Israel or the wealthy and powerful British Jewish community. After Secretary of State John Kerry described Israel’s government as “extreme right wing” on December 28, 2016, May sprang to Tel Aviv’s defense, saying “we do not believe that it is appropriate to attack the composition of the democratically elected government of an ally.” May’s rejoinder could have been written by Netanyahu, and maybe it was. Two weeks later, her government cited “reservations” over a French government sponsored mid-January Middle East peace conference and would not sign a joint statement calling for a negotiated two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict after Netanyahu vociferously condemned the proceedings.

This deference all takes place in spite of a recent astonishing expose by al-Jazeera, which revealed how the Israeli Embassy in London connived with government officials to “take down” parliamentarians and government ministers who were considered to be critical of the Jewish State. It was also learned that the Israeli Embassy was secretly subsidizing and advising private groups promoting Israeli interests, including associations of Members of Parliament (MPs).

British Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn has been under unrelenting fire due to the fact that he is the first major political party leader in many years to resist the demands that he place Israel on a pedestal. Corbyn is indeed a man of the left who has consistently opposed racism, extreme nationalism, colonialism and military interventionism. Corbyn’s crime has been that he is critical of the Jewish state and has called for an “end to the repression of the Palestinian people.” As a reward, he has been hounded mercilessly by British Jews, even those in his own party, for over two years.

The invective being spewed by some British Jews and Israel has increased of late, presumably because Theresa May’s Conservative government is perceived as being weak and there is a distinct possibility that the leader of the Labour Party will be the next Prime Minister. That a Prime Minister might be sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians is viewed as completely unacceptable.

Last month, rightwing Labour Parliamentarian Margaret Hodge raised the stakes, calling Corbyn “a fucking anti-Semite and a racist”. She then wrote in the Guardian that Labour is “a hostile environment for Jews.” The traditionally liberal Guardian has in fact been in the forefront of Jewish criticism of Corbyn, led by its senior editor Jonathan Freedland, who reportedly believes that “his Jewish identity is intimately tied to Israel, and that to attack Israel is to attack him personally… he is demanding the exclusive right to police the parameters of discussions about Israel.” Last month he featured in his paper a letter attacking Corbyn signed by 68 rabbis.

All of the invective has been more-or-less orchestrated by the Israeli government, which directly supports the gaggle of groups that have coalesced to bring down Corbyn. This effort to destroy the Labour leader has included the use of an app disseminating messages via social media accusing Corbyn of anti-Semitism. The app was developed by Israel’s strategic affairs ministry, which “directs Israel’s covert efforts to sabotage the Palestine solidarity movement around the world”.

There are two principal objectives to the “get Corbyn” campaign. The first is to remove him from the Labour Party leadership position, thereby ensuring that he will never be elected Prime Minister, while also eliminating from the party any and all members who are perceived as being “too critical” of Israel. In practice that has meant anyone who criticizes Israel at all. And second it is to establish as a legal principle that the “hate crime” offense of anti-Semitism specifically be defined to include criticism of Israel, thereby making it a criminal offense to write or speak about Israel’s racist behavior towards its Muslim and Christian minority while also making it impossible to freely discuss its war crimes.

The principal argument being made against Corbyn is that the Labour Party is awash with anti-Semitism and Corbyn has done little or nothing to oppose it. Some of the most brutal shots against Corbyn have come from the usual crowd in the United States. Andrew Sullivan recently observed in New York Magazine that “When it emerged, that Naz Shah, a new Labour MP, had opined on Facebook before she was elected that Israel should be relocated to the U.S., and former London mayor Ken Livingstone backed her up by arguing that the Nazis initially favored Zionism, Corbyn didn’t make a big fuss.” Sullivan then went on to write that “It then emerged that Corbyn himself had subscribed to various pro-Palestinian Facebook groups where rank anti-Semitism flourished” and had even “…attended a meeting on Holocaust Memorial Day in 2010, called ‘Never Again for Anyone: Auschwitz to Gaza,’ equating Israelis with Nazis.”

In other words, Corbyn should have been responsible for policing the personal views of Shah and Livingstone, both of whom were subsequently suspended from the Labour Party with Livingstone eventually resigning. He should have also avoided Palestinian Facebook commentary because alleged anti-Semites occasionally contribute their views and ought not to acknowledge in any fashion the Israel war crimes being committed on a daily basis in Gaza.

So Corbyn must go based on the “fact” that he has to be a closet anti-Semite as discerned by the likes of Andrew Sullivan on this side of the Atlantic and a host of Israel-firsters in Britain. But the Labour leader’s worst crime that is being regarded as an “existential threat” to Jewish people everywhere is his resistance to the pressure being exerted on him to endorse and adopt the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s (IHRA) precise multi-faceted definition of what constitutes anti-Semitism. The IHRA basic definition of anti-Semitism is reasonable enough, including “a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of anti-Semitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”

The Labour Party and Corbyn have accepted that definition but have balked at eleven “contemporary examples of anti-Semitism” also provided by IHRA, four of which have nothing to do with Jews and everything to do with Israel. They are:

  • Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
  • Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
  • Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
  • Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.

One might observe that many Jews – not all or even most – but many, do have dual loyalty in which the allegiance to Israel is dominant. I would cite as a prime example the current U.S. Ambassador to Israel David Friedman who spends much of his time defending Israel. And there are also the American Jews who have spied for Israel, to include Jonathan Pollard and AIPAC luminaries Steven J. Rosen and Keith Weissman who obtained classified information from Lawrence Franklin and then passed what they had obtained to Israeli intelligence.

And yes, Israel is a “racist endeavor.” Just check out the recent nationality law passed by the Knesset declaring Israel to be a Jewish State. It grants self-determination only to those living within its borders who are Jews. And if using racial distinctions for full citizenship while also bombing hospitals and schools while lining up snipers to shoot thousands of unarmed Palestinian demonstrators is not Nazi-like behavior, then what is? Israel and its leader are sometimes compared to Nazis and to Adolf Hitler because they behave like Nazis and Adolf Hitler.

And finally there is the definition that challenges any “double standard” in demanding behavior from Israel that is not expected from any other democratic nation. Well, first of all Israel is not a democracy. It is a theocracy or ethnocracy if you prefer wrapped around a police state. Other countries that call themselves democracies have equal rights under law for all citizens. Other democracies do not have hundreds of thousands of settlers stealing land and even water resources from the indigenous population and colonizing it to the benefit of only one segment of its population. Other democracies do not regularly shoot dead unarmed protesters. How many democracies are currently practicing ethnic cleansing, as the Israeli Jews are doing to the Palestinians?

Will Corbyn give in to the IHRA demands to save his skin as party leader? One has to suspect that he will as he is already regularly conceding points and apologizing, publicly delivering the required obeisance to the holocaust as “the worst crime of the twentieth century.” And every time he tries to appease those out to get him he emerges weaker. Even if he submits completely, the Israel firsters who are hot to get him, having just like in American significant control over the media, will continue to attack until they find the precise issue that will bring him down. The Labour National Executive Council will meet in September to vote on full acceptance of the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism. When they, as is likely, kneel before force majeure that will be the end of free speech in Britain. Criticize Israel and you go to jail.

And the same thing is happening in the United States in precisely the same fashion. Criticism of Israel or protesting against it will sooner rather than later be criminalized. I sometimes wonder if Senator Ben Cardin and the others who are promoting the hate legislation really understand what will be lost when they sacrifice the U.S. Constitution to defend Israel. Once free speech is gone, it will never return.

 
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  1. Rational says:

    CRITICIZE ISRAEL AND GO TO JAIL? IS THAT HOW LOW ZIONISTS HAVE SUNK?

    Thanks for the interesting article, Sir.

    As I read it, I felt sick in the abdomen, at how low the Zionists have sunk, demanding that those who criticize Israel go to jail.

    If there is evil in this world, this is it. These are the dark ages. These people are primitive and seem to resist civilization.

    No civilized human being should put up with this sort of evil.

    The Brits need to wake up and actually repeal laws that make certain speech criminal offences that are already on the books (except for incitements to violence and porn).

    The need to vote for Labor and keep Corbyn, or vote for BNP, and tell the Zionists that they are evil to make these demands.

    Civilize them, please!!

  2. Israel is not a democracy for a much simpler reason than that the author offers.

    It denies the vote to the gentile inhabitants of Gaza and the West Bank; that is to say, to about a quarter of its subjects.

    Since the Jewish parties in the Knesset boycott the few Arab representatives that are there, Israel effectively denies political representation to the gentiles within its ‘pre-1967′ boundaries as well — that is to say, to another sixth or so of its total subject population.

    Obviously, Israel is not a democracy in any sense of the word. 25% of its subjects are without even theoretical representation, and another 17% lack it in any practical sense. It’s as if the US denied the vote to all inner-city residents except white ‘settlers,’ refused to work with Congressmen who weren’t Protestants. It would be absurd to regard it as a democracy.

    There are some democracies in the Middle East. Israel isn’t one of them.

    • Replies: @Paw
  3. CNN (!) offers up this truly disgusting hit piece.

    ”When Jeremy Corbyn talks about ‘British Zionists,’ we know exactly what he means’

    Basically, Jeremy Corbyn, rabid anti-semite, is equated with David Duke.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/24/opinions/jeremy-corbyn-british-zionists-opinion-intl/index.html

    • Replies: @ISmellBagels
  4. …and Norm Finkelstein brilliantly demolishes the notion that there’s any anti-semitism to speak of in Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour Party, or Britain in general.

    https://mondoweiss.net/2018/08/chimera-british-semitism/

  5. Corbyn is shell shocked and cannot comprehend what is required for him to counter this blatant attempt at his ouster. An individual that could help him tremendously as an advisor is Miko Peled, an Israeli citizen, living in the U.S. I mention Peled, because he is a “lefty” just like Corbyn.

    Giraldi writes that, “there exists an ‘Israel Lobby’ in many countries, all dedicated to advancing the agendas promoted by successive Israeli governments no matter what the actual interests of the host country might be.”

    ADL, a branch of the B’nai B’rith global enterprise, confirms they are subversive agents that work against their host nation. Straight from their mouth…

    • Replies: @anon
  6. The center of the Axis of Evil is Zionist Israel. No other country, not even the planet’s “sole superpower” wields so much power and control over other “sovereign” nations as does Zionist Israel. Regime change? Zionist, apartheid Israel has perfected that art and science — and without firing a shot. Why do it when others will cheerfully fight your battles for you? Evil is as evil does. Still obsessed with Russophobia? Distractions aplenty for the stupefied.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  7. Biff says:

    Other democracies do not regularly shoot dead unarmed protesters.

    No, I am NOT a grammar Nazi. I just thought it was funny. ha ha

  8. Tyrion 2 says:

    As always, Giraldi has no idea what he is talking about. I imagine if someone says “pews”, “cruise” or “whose”, Giraldi jumps under the table and wimpers.

    Other than the absurd lies, context-free hyperbole and other nonsense in his article – that are too many for me to be bothered to list – he fundamentally misunderstands that the latest anti-Semitism stuff vis a vis Corbyn is a) probably true and b) only the latest in a bazillion similar evidence-based exposes of his crankiness.

    Corbyn will always hate the whatever that is closer to a British tradition. This means that he hates the Jews when they are contrasted with the Palestinians. Just as he surely prefers Palestinian Muslims to Palestinian Christians. This may sound mad but this is the way many people think. It makes them feel important. This is also why he dedicated a substantial part of his career to boosting the IRA when they were bombing Britain, even when the majority of the Catholics of the island of Ireland thought they should stop.

    Indeed, were Corbyn to be given a choice between humanity and the flying vermin that are pigeons, he’d 10,000% back the pigeons.

    Or in the words of him and his two closest political allies as expressed through the original parliament to represent people:

    humans represent the most obscene, perverted, cruel, uncivilised and lethal species ever to inhabit the planet and looks forward to the day when the inevitable asteroid slams into the earth and wipes them out thus giving nature the opportunity to start again.

    Yay, Corbyn……………………………………………………………………………

    https://www.parliament.uk/edm/2003-04/1255

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @John90
    , @Emanuel
    , @Bianca
  9. Biff says:

    Israel and its leader are sometimes compared to Nazis and to Adolf Hitler because they behave like Nazis and Adolf Hitler.

    Exactly, but poor Germany. They never really deserved Hitler or the Jews. Shortly before the war they became the smartest, most industrialized, and prosperous country on earth. German engineering was second to none. Now, till this day they are still an occupied people, and ruled by Zionist Washington. So sad.
    Their future doesn’t look good either – inundated with refugees from Zionist wars in the MiddleEast. At this point I’m not sure recovery is possible?

    • Replies: @David Westerlund
  10. chris says:

    These efforts to criminalize criticism of Israel seem to be the necessary precursors to major military moves in the Middle East to create ‘the greater Israel.’

    Probably in coordination with the ongoing efforts to neutralize and destroy all independent players such as Iran and Russia.

    • Replies: @Jett Rucker
  11. Donald says:

    There used to be a “supermarket” chain in Montreal called Steinberg, owned by Steinberg, “Canadian” Jews. They sold the business to another supermarket label, Métro-Richelieu or something, owned by a would-be-venture capitalist/economics professor, Michel Gauthier or something. It was a laughing transaction even in the news. But during the due diligence for the sale it surfaced that Steinberg had unusual deals with his suppliers, meat, dairy or whatever. If you wanted to sell your products to Steinberg, Steinberg made you sign an agreement to buy Israeli bonds. Talk about tied-selling under the Canada Competition Act! Talk about Stephen Harper financing!

    • Replies: @Anthony Aaron
  12. Wally says:

    It’s all coming down.

    The fake & impossible ’6M Jews’ and the special status of violent & parasitic ‘Israel’.

    It will no doubt become even more ugly since a wounded, dying beast is indeed dangerous, but it IS coming down. Jews won’t like it, but more & more people are not impressed by them and care not a bit what they think.
    We give them their undeserved, unearned power and we can take it away.
    We can live quite well without them, they cannot live without us.

    The amount and levels of debate are increasing rapidly, hence the attempt to silence free speech is increasing.

    This site is a great example, what with the posting Giraldi’s work and this:
    American Pravda: Holocaust Denial: http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/

    The Knesset officially declares that Israeli democracy is for Jews only

    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/06/officially-declares-democracy/

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    Fighting Israel’s Wars
    How the United States military has become Zionized: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/fighting-israels-wars/

    Pandering to Israel Has Got to Stop
    Pledges of loyalty to Israel are un-American: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/pandering-to-israel-has-got-to-stop/#comments

    America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/#comment-2012898

    • Agree: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @druid
    , @Anon
  13. During the C21st the Conservative Party has become reliant on Jewish money. Even more than her predecessor Cameron, May is a “value free zone”, as the commentator Richard North categorised her. She does whatever the donors want. Not that the Labour Party in power would be any better. It is just as riddled with Israel-supporting “moderates”.
    In the near future, the Labour Party will break down into 2 or more groups. The “moderates” and more radical groups who will be chasing the Muslim vote.
    On top of that, a second Scottish Independence Referendum may not be too many years away. I suspect it will be successful this time.
    The dissolution of the British state seems likely over the coming years. The question is how much damage May and her Conservatives In Name Only will do in the interim.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  14. Anon[323] • Disclaimer says:

    Corbyn is indeed a man of the left who has consistently opposed racism, extreme nationalism, colonialism and military interventionism.

    Corbyn is an anti-race-ist traitor cuck.

    He opposes Zionists but welcomes the fate of Palestinians upon Britons. Just like Palestinians were wiped off the map by mass-immigration-invasion(of Jews), Britons face the same fate if immigration-invasion continues. But Corbyn welcomes the Palestinianization of Britons.

    Also, Corbyn doesn’t really care for Palestinians. He hates Israel because it is nationalist and protects its borders. Corbyn’s dream of Israel is not national restoration of Palestine but open borders for Israel/Palestine so that both Jews and Palestinians will be flooded and replaced by other peoples… like what is happening in Britain.

    It’s like the progressives in Hawaii never tried to restore the land to the natives. Instead, their idea of fighting ‘racism’ was by letting the island be swarmed by Asians. So, Hawaiians lost to whites and yellows.

    Only neo-fascist race-ist nationalism is the best bulwark against globo-demo-imperialism.

  15. Thank you, Philip Giraldi.

    How ironic that a brave and principled man (Jeremy Corbyn) is being hounded out of office and defamed from all sides while a dishonest neocon toady like such as John McCain is lionized by both wings of Washington’s duopoly (as well as our MSM) as a ‘hero’ and a ‘maverick’.

    Could this really be happening?

    Oh it’s happening alright.

    McCain dutifully pimped for every US war against any Israeli foes since GHW Bush. McCain expressed no regrets for the destruction of Iraq, the destruction of Libya, the dismemberment of Palestine, or the destabilization of Syria. McCain never apologized for all the needless death and suffering caused by spineless servants such as himself. He also openly advocated for a US war on Iran, just as Israel wanted.

    If the Zions didn’t control our entire mass media this level of venality would not occur. But they do and it does.

    Indoctrination. Brainwashing. Repetition. Conformity. Taboo. Shame. Blacklisting. Political corruption.

    Do you deny making anti-Semitic remarks? What will your friends and family say?

    The falsification of history is an ongoing and daily occurrence.

    The manipulation of the masses: it works!

    Who are you going to believe?–your own fallible judgement?–or the expert analysis of our entire political class–including Harvard-educated scholars and journalists?

    C’mon. Get a clue. Think right. Stop talking that way.

    You don’t want to lose your job, do you?

    no.

    Then STFU!

    ok.

  16. tac says:

    It is Israel again up to its old tricks being the real entity that interferes in foreign elections:

    …Corbyn is viewed by Israel as effectively the “figurehead of the delegitimisation network”.

    “They hope that by taking action against him, they can decapitate what they see as the most powerful figure in this network,” he told Middle East Eye. “By making an example of him, they can sow division, spread fear and suppress speech on Israel.”

    Certainly, Israel’s fingerprints look to be present in the current claims of an anti-Semitism crisis supposedly revolving around Corbyn.

    Active interference by the Israeli government in British politics was highlighted last year in a four-part undercover documentary produced by the Qatari channel Al Jazeera. It secretly filmed the activities of an operative in Israel’s embassy in London named Shai Masot.

    The Al Jazeera investigation provoked numerous complaints that it breached broadcasting rules relating to anti-Semitism, bias, unfair editing and invasions of privacy. However, Ofcom, the British broadcasting regulator, cleared the programme of all charges.

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-s-hidden-hand-behind-attacks-jeremy-corbyn-139423040

    • Replies: @Miro23
  17. Donald says:

    You refer to Hitler and Nazis. Did you read Ron Unz yesterday?

    • Replies: @Moi
  18. Anon[323] • Disclaimer says:

    Other countries that call themselves democracies have equal rights under law for all citizens.

    Nope. Western democracies deny rights of defense and survival to whites. In the US, there is no equal rights. Jews have special rights and shut down right-wing voices. Whites are attacked and dehumanized by the media. There is no free speech in EU. Jews shut down Jared Taylor on paypal and twitter. Giraldi got booted from amcon because of Jewish pressure.
    India is a very corrupt and oppressive democracy. Latin American democracies are all a joke. and still use death squads. Turkey is an a**hole democracy. South Africa can easily slide into genocide.

    Other democracies do not have hundreds of thousands of settlers stealing land and even water resources from the indigenous population and colonizing it to the benefit of only one segment of its population.

    But that is how the US, Canada, Australia, and all Latin America territories got started. Israel still does it cuz it’s a younger nation.

    Other democracies do not regularly shoot dead unarmed protesters. How many democracies are currently practicing ethnic cleansing, as the Israeli Jews are doing to the Palestinians?

    They all are doing it because they aid and abet Israel. In fact, Israel has been enabled by the West. Without Western backing, Nakba couldn’t have happened. US gives 4.5 billion to Israel every year. US destroyed Iraq and Libya. And its Western allies(and Japan) all went along. They are all joined at the hip. This is because all Western democracies are political colonies of the Empire of Judea. It’s not really Israel that dictates Western policy. It is that the West is ruled by Jewish oligarchs, moguls, and commissars, and those people force Western leaders to be nice to big brat Netanyahu.
    It’s the same with homos. Why are western elites so slavish to homos? Because Jewish Power says ‘homos are our special friends’. Also, the current mass-immigration-invasion IS ethnic-cleansing on a massive scale. Look what happened to once white and conservative California. London is now less that half British. Paris is turning bongo.

    The great irony of this whole mess is that Jewish power compelled British elites to welcome tons of immigrant-invaders, many of whom were angry Muslims. So, Jewish Immigration Policy led to Labour depending more on Muslim votes. But now, Jews are bitching about how ‘antisemitic’ Labour is.

    Jews had intended to use all those immigrant-invaders against whites, Christians, and patriot-conservatives. Jews encouraged endless anti-white hatred among the newcomers. Jews told the newcomers to blame it all on whitey. But when many newcomers saw Jews as the most powerful whites and applied the logic of PC on Jews, the Jews freaked out.

    White cuck progs in the UK are worthless. They are into white guilt and white replacement. But their saving grace is that they are consistent in their views. Roger Waters calls for open borders for UK and replacement of whites by color BUT he demands the same for all nations, Israel included. In contrast, Jews push open borders on others but demand security for Israel.
    Labour progs are upset that Jews don’t practice what they preach.

    • Agree: Carroll Price
  19. Robert Dunn says: • Website

    What England was before and after sacrificing so much to defeat the man and his regime that would have made short work of the Hellish state of Israel is a full exhibition of national suicide. Now a 3rd world toilet it’s royals luxuriate in obscene opulence waltzing from one pedophile orgy after another while it’s people look forward to the next generation who’s blood has been mixed with the jungle while it’s behind the scenes rattish Jews rub their paws with glee and greed. Aren’t there any lessons from history that can be referred to or is anyone save Jeremy Corbyn paying attention?

  20. Anonymous[632] • Disclaimer says:

    Jews have such power because native-born Christians have dual loyalty in which the allegiance to Israel is dominant.

    Christians worship a foreign Jewish “King of Israel” (John 1:49)

    Christians consider themselves dual citizens. “But our citizenship is in Jewheaven.” (Philippians 3:20)

    Christians consider themselves honorary Jews. “So now you Gullible Goyim are no longer strangers and foreigners. You are citizens along with all of Jewgod’s holy Jew people.” (Ephesians 2:19)

    Christian loyalty is to Jewheaven being “Jerusalem,” a “Holy” foreign capital city in middle-eastern Asia. (Revelation 21:2)

    Christians imagine Jewry is essential to their very existence. “We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.” (John 4:22)

    The English Speaking Peoples are to Jews what Joseph was to Jesus (Matthew 1:18): cuckolded dupes raising a cuckoo bird not their own. Only 118 shopping days until we celebrate a whole culture’s cuckoldry again.

    • Replies: @Bucky
  21. In fact, I think all of this has more to do with Brexit than with Israel. The Brexiteers are in total panic. If they put the exit package to a referendum, they’ll lose. If they call an election on it, Corbyn will porbably win and he opposes Brexit. Even a parliamentary vote could be lost inasmuch as the Tories don’t have a majority and the Brexiteers are a minority within the party. Thus, Corbyn has to be discredited at all costs. Whether accusations of anti-Semitism will discredit him is quite another matter. In Europe generally, people are indifferent to Israel. They don’t care what happens to it one way or the other. Nobody who is likely to vote Labour cares a hoot about Israel and are not going to change their vote because of the accusations. If anything, people will perceive the campaign against Corbyn as Jewish bullying and rally to him.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Another non
  22. Realist says:

    Informative article. Why do Whites allow this bullshit???

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  23. Surely the First Amendment will neuter the attempts to curb criticism of Israel. And why do you say melodramatically “Once free speech is gone, it will never return”? There have surely been enough bad ideas that have produced a revolt. Prohibition is one obvious one. I should be interested to hear your case. Even now I can see some defenders of free speech producing and subsidising sly work which by satire or bogus criticisms of anti-Semitism eventually prompts some wannabe noticed pro-Zionist organisation to make a well publicised fool of itself in courts.

  24. Deschutes says:

    I’ve read so many of these articles over the years detailing the numerous ways the Jewish lobby/Zionists get their way at the expense of everybody else (Palestinians, British, American, et al) I’ve become numb from it. That said, I seriously doubt that critcising Israel will come to pass in USA. It is an indefensible position from a legal and academic standpoint to go to this extreme.

    It is easy to see why the Jews have made so many enemies over the years: they really see themselves as very separate and much better than everybody else. They simply can’t get away from this mindset, and it has proved their undoing time and time again. If you act as if you are ‘gods chosen people’ above and beyond the rest, it invariably creates resentment and backfires. It was this mentality that got the Zionist movement the Balfour declaration for the Jewish homeland in Palestine. And look at how horribly this entire Jewish Zionist homeland has gone: even before its inception, there is been constant, nonstop war from at least the 1930s right up to now, in neighboring Syria, in Lebanon, and most likely next up in Iran. One wonders how the Jews can live with themselves living in a constant state of nonstop war, meddling and conflict? Just disgraceful behavior.

    I was surprised to learn that the population of Israel is only 8.8 million. So small! Contrast that with Iran’s 82 million….Egypt’s 100 million…Iraq’s 40 million…or Turkey’s 82 million. How such a relatively tiny country makes so much noise and disruption for the rest of the world is something to ponder. If you ever google one of those ‘most hated countries in the world’ polls Israel or USA invariably top the list.

    • Replies: @Deschutes
    , @renfro
  25. Deschutes says:
    @Deschutes

    There is a major mistake in my previous post: in first paragraph I meant to say “I doubt that criticising Israel will be made illegal” in USA.”

    • Replies: @DFH
  26. Anon[129] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Michael Kenny

    In fact, I think all of this has more to do with Brexit than with Israel. The Brexiteers are in total panic.

    But Corbyn is attacked by Brit Jews and the Guardian, both opposed to Brexit.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  27. Limz says:

    Where can iread more about the supposed Ill treatment of Christians in Israel?

  28. Gilad Atzmon, the self-described ex-Israeli and ex-Jew, writes reams about the Jewish assault on Corbyn. In this recent piece, he quotes from Douglas Reed’s The Controversy of Zion:

    ‘The Gentile politicians of the West presented these fictions [of Jewish persecution] to their peoples as truth, for they had found that powerful Jews, in all countries, were able to assist parties favoured by them with money, press support and votes; the return they required was support for the cause of the “persecuted” Jews in Russia and for the “return” to Palestine. In effect this meant that politicians who sought these favours had to subordinate national interest to two causes ultimately destructive of all nation states: the revolution (communism) and the ambition to acquire territory for the dominant race (Zionism).’

    Although I wish a pox on all of Britain’s mainstream parties, good luck to Corbyn in his attempt to assert a semblance of national interest over Jewish interests.

  29. LondonBob says:
    @Verymuchalive

    The Conservative Party membership numbers are no longer published but they could be as low as fifty thousand going on revenue from membership fees.

    All this smearing has so far had no impact at all, in fact it is leading some to question what is the agenda here. There is a nice article on the Israeli smear campaign in the Middle East Eye.

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-s-hidden-hand-behind-attacks-jeremy-corbyn-139423040

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  30. Bravo, Phil! Keep ‘em comin’.

    Many believe that the easily observable dominance of the friends of Israel over some aspects of government policy is a phenomenon unique to the United States, where committed Jews and Christian Zionists are able to control both politicians and the media message relating to what is going on in the Middle East.

    Thank you for pointing this out.

    Although I am no longer much of a Christian myself, I have always bristled every time I hear some left-wing (usually Jewish) anti-Zionist blame American Christians for Washington’s mid-east policies, while describing the influence of the Jewish lobby as being ‘exaggerated’. The obvious counterargument is: if American Christians have so much power over the federal government that they can virtually dictate mid-east policy, how come they can’t ban abortion or gay marriage? How come they can’t–forgive the metaphor–resurrect prayer in school?

    Indeed, the mere fact that the US now has an entire an entire branch of Christianity devoted to Rapture-Zionism gives you a clue as to who rules whom in this country. Think about it, people: we now have ‘Christian’ churches who are actually willing to put the interests and well-being of another religion ahead of their own! And their otherwise patriotic followers are being conned into putting the interests of another country ahead of their own. Absolutely astounding! In modern America at least, not only have the Christians lost control of their government; they’ve even lost control of Christianity!

    Moreover, what about all those other western countries, such as Britain, France and Germany, which really lack anything like American-style Rapture-Christians, yet are still completely in thrall to Israel? L’affaire Corbyn is, if nothing else, proof that we are not the only ones being jacked around by the Zionists.

    Don’t get me wrong: I really wish American Christians would wake the f*ck up and see that they’re being used, being made to look pathetic by the Zionists. But the allegation that those Christians are actually running the show in the West is completely fatuous. In fact, it’s just a left-wing ‘anti-Zionist’ gate-keeper story. Don’t believe it!

    Failure to confront Israel’s crimes against humanity combined with an inability to resist its demands regarding how issues like anti-Semitism and hate speech are defined has done terrible damage to free speech in Western Europe and, most notably, in the Anglophone world.

    We are all Palestinians now!

    I really hope this serves as a wake-up call to all of the pro-Zionist alt-righters out there. The Zionists can never truly be our friends. After all, once they are able to ban anti-Zionist talk for being anti-Semitic, how much longer will be it before they are able to just go ahead and ban all anti-Semitic speech? Then where will you be? You won’t even be allowed to criticize George Soros anymore!

    Corbyn is indeed a man of the left who has consistently opposed racism, extreme nationalism, colonialism and military interventionism.

    Well, I’m not a hundred-percent sure about the “nationalism” part. While “extreme” may well be in the eye of the beholder, it’s also true that the IRA and most of the Palestinian groups do self-describe as ‘nationalist’, and Corbyn has always been OK with them (as am I). The only nationalism his seems to have a real problem with is English nationalism.

    The traditionally liberal Guardian has in fact been in the forefront of Jewish criticism of Corbyn, led by its senior editor Jonathan Freedland …

    They should just go ahead and relaunch The Guardian as The Shomer.

  31. ” The IHRA basic definition of anti-Semitism is reasonable enough, including “a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of anti-Semitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.” ”
    It is not, in my opinion.

    Should have been:
    The IHRA basic definition of anti-Semitism is reasonable enough, including “a certain perception of THE Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward ALL Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of anti-Semitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”

    The second sentence baffles me.
    Probably is meant to define any criticsm of a jew, a few jews, a jewish organisation, including Israel, as antisemitism;

    But the point is that there are many excellent jews, Finkelstein, Pappe, in the Netherlands Hamburger and prof Frijda, the Nobel prize winner psychologist, Elias Davidsson, Gilas Atzmon, rabbi David Shasha, just to mention a few of which I know the names.
    There must be many more.

    It of course is quite possible that jewish power in England succeeds in outlawing any criticism on any jew, or anything jewish.
    If such a law backfires, quite probable, in my opinion.
    If any nation has been indoctrinated by that criticism of jews is criminal, it is the German.
    However, not all Germans are stupid, they see quite well what Israel does to the Palestinians.
    The German government not allowing Finkelstein and Pappe to speak in Germany, it did not make a good impression in Germany

  32. Troubled me to a state of realistic despair when reading Mr. Girardi’s rhetorical question & his evidence-laden assessment: “Will Corbyn give in to the IHRA demands to save his skin as party leader? One has to suspect that he will as he is already regularly conceding points and apologizing, publicly delivering the required obeisance to the holocaust as “the worst crime of the twentieth century.”
    … Here’s why.
    … Unless somehow advantaging Israel interests, the rise of a principled & popular, either left or right wing Jeremy Corbyn-type Congressman is impossible in the ZUSA.
    … For example, the presidential-candidate sprouting & distorted bloom of Senator Rand Paul, son of the principled Ron Paul.
    … (Zigh). By the time Rand mounted the 2017 (stilted) debate-stage along with about seven devoted & AIPAC approved opponents, he had paid tribute at the Western Wall and did obligatory homage, met with the Almighty Netanyahu.
    … Later, Senator Rand Paul caved into Zio-G.O.P. pressure and endorsed PreZident Trump’s incendiary will to scrap the JCPOA.
    … So I suggest that an American wannabe, Jeremy Corbyn should, along with a contingent of Jewish Corporate Media cameramen, travel to Jerusalem’s Western Wall and prepare & insert a piece of paper into a crack that vows, “Dear Synagogue of Satan High Priests, I shall never again step out-of-line and risk saving my political skin!”
    Thanks for offering all the educationally good works, Phil Giraldi.

    • Agree: chris
  33. Crucifixion is the right term to use here. Corbyn is Jesus exactly..the turn the other cheek wimpy white guy.

    it should..in fact must have come to this between Labour and the Zionists but it should have been a war from the start not a crucifixion. Corbyn is in a zero sum game and bats at the wicket as if there are more wickets to come so he does not have to batten down, as if it does not depend entirely on him..that the others to come can do what he does not

    from the start, before Corbyn: life itself is a zero sum game. go all in or forget it. Corbyn had to have understood what his program mean to the Zionists and that they would never allow it. so they would attack not only his program but he too. totally. his very life would be on the line. so that that he would have been in an attack mode himself

    CORBYN IS ENGLISH FOR CHRIST SAKE, AN ENGLISHAN, A LEADER WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO LOOK OUR FOR ENGLAND WITH THE PLANS HE FORMULATES IN RESPONSE TO THE WORK AT HAND THAT MUST BE DONE FOR ENGLAND.

    THE RULES OF THE PROCESS IS DEMOCRATIC, THERE ARE PRINCIPLES THAT MUST BE ACCEPTED AND FUNCTIONED BY, BY ALL PARTICIPANTS..THAT MEANS ALL THE ENGLISH.

    why must Corbyn be up against a wall for that, being crucified? any examination of Corbyns plan for England reveals good ideas and intent, a program that would benefit England. why is he being crucified for that? and who are those who are crucifying him? are they English! and if they are English why are they crucifying the an English leader..a progressive one…why are they acting against England then…IF THEY ARE ENGLISH!!!???

    had Corbyn been acting as he should this would have been a war that would have belled all that traitorous, treasonous Zionist nonsense. Corbyn himself set up his own crucifixion by compromising in a zero sum game which is the ultimate no-no! Corbyn should made no compromise at all, aware that he would have been absolutely right not to so, explain the situation to the English, explain the state of affairs given the utterly undemocratic and unjust and lying dominance of the Zionists, and call them to arms to defend and develop British democracy.

    in that way Corbyn would have developed the army he needs to save his actual and political lives and on winning the political power on that basis would clear the way for his program..a program that would have allowed him to disarm the Zionist totally..to take away their dominance of the media for example, and spread around ownership

    by winning on such a program Corbyn would have won a mandate to free England of the Zionist octopus

    so now if Corbyn wins the political power with the Zionist power still intact and opposed to his entire program what the hell is he going to do, how would he carry through his program hamstrung all the way?

    I am not English but this is the only way I have understood Corbyn..a weak political grifter throwing sops to the people to get elected..in which case as Prime Minister he would be a compromising embarrassment for a few years before he is tossed and whatever little of a progressive nature he manages to achieve, is reversed as soon as he steps out the door of 10 Downing

    Were Corbyn for real, committed, driven by what is best for England at this stage of its existence not by personal political achievement it would have been a different day a real day, with a sincere man for the nation, perceived so by all and loved for it he would have been able to fill the streets of Britain with the people..he would have been able to shut down the country, hold ait and shake loose the hands of the financial grifters and reform it now.

    that is what is essential, a real leader, not the pussy-footing jackarse Corbyn whose failure will set back the socialist cause by decades. Corby is the worst possible example of a socialist we might have had. Corbyn is worse than Bernie Sanders who also calls himself socialist. in late stage capitalism we have coming out of the global political wood works these half-arsed fakes whose function is no doubt to make the social organizing alternatives that do not require the current powers that look bad, to try to kill socialism as a possibility in the minds of people everywhere

    to me Corbyn is fake and I am not looking forward to his leadership of Britain. as British PM Corbyn will compromise all he now ‘stands’ for and we will end up in the same global stand-off that we in now..indeed made worse by by his compromising betrayal that looms. the way he has behaved politically up to now tells us that that is exactly the way he would function as prime minister.

    Let them crucify Corbyn. that is what he wanted. there must be some hill in England he admires for
    them to erect the cross he will be nailed to….and so make way for the leader and party who understand what zero sum means in the reality we actually live in..and what to do about it..with no compromising the facts and staunching the action essential to correct the situation

    • Replies: @EagleEyeX
  34. As Norman Finkelstein once observed, Jews “never forgive and never forget.” Corbyn ought to keep that in mind. All his bobbing and weaving will availeth nothing.

  35. @Anon

    Why should there be panic by the Brexiteers ?
    Britain’s export to the remaining EU is far less than from the remaining EU to GB.
    Especially France and Germany have huge exports to GB.
    As a Brexiteer already long ago mentioned ‘they need us more than we them’.
    If Merkel and Macron would survive a hard Brexit, I wonder
    Under estimated is the why of Brexit, they want their country back, as one voter said ‘they even interfere with vacuum cleaners’.

  36. @Anon

    It is amazing how any criticism of jews or of Israel is always ‘explained’ by jews by hatred.

  37. Deschutes says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    I stopped reading the Guardian full stop 4-5 years ago, back when they launched their “Russia is evildoer!!” shrill campaign of propaganda–also about the time the Ukraine civil war got into gear. Never looked back, the Guardian is a steaming pile of US/NATO/Atlantic Council bullshit. I’ll never understand why so many fixate on it, such as the Off-guardian.org bloggers who’ve devoted an entire blog for years on end to criticising Guardian journos, ‘comment is free’, comment mods, etc. All fine and good, but why? With so many other better news sources is there a need? No, there isn’t. Just move on. The Guardian is not a relevant news outlet. I mean, why keep going there to read pro-Israeli/pro-US government articles which make you angry? Doesn’t make any sense.

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @Ivan K.
    , @Digital Samizdat
  38. geokat62 says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    And their otherwise patriotic followers are being conned into putting the interests of another country ahead of their own. Absolutely astounding!

    I think the PEAbrain is in the best position to explain why his PEEPS behave in this manner.

  39. @Digital Samizdat

    we keep accepting these arguments like Giraldis’ here and functioning intellectually at this paused rate which is insufficient to the needs of the day and time.

    it is immediate the reality in which we live, in all its demands on us…and we must respond at the same speed. the enemy moves at the rate of speed of life and succeeds in slowing us down with these arguments in the media

    Corbyn is bloody well wrong. he has gone out of his way to compromise with the Zionists and every time they want more. we we knew that, that they would not compromise did we not….we knew it. we know the game. they know they game. they have the power and they never compromise..never! they know to give ground is to lose.

    and it is in fact to lose..and the same for the people. that is why it is zero sum. the economic/political game is no place to compromise.

    in principle the people have all the power..and we do. where are the leaders who bring the people into awareness of their total power, set up and lead them into that power in the process of fixing society?

    why must the leader of those who have all the power be at the feet of a minority who is bleeding the life out of the society?

    Corbyn behaves as if he has no power..as if he is not fixing to assume in behalf of the people the greatest social power there is..the power of the people. so he is apologetic and compromising of the peoples power, on and in dealing with the peoples issues

    the people’s power and social interest have been usurped and compromised by a minority power and their pets in the peoples power structure..and in the media too. that is why we are dealing with a prevaricator in Giraldi and not a radicalized person who brings us up to speed..the speed required to fix society

    the peoples power has been betrayed by treasonous citizens who have lied to the people and usurped the peoples power. that is the truth, the immediate truth and requires an immediate and direct response..no compromise will work. this article here by Giraldi is not an immediate response but a kind of time-wasting prevarication. Corbyn and his politics are also prevarication

  40. @LondonBob

    http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN05125/SN05125.pdf

    MoscowBob ( you’re never going back to London to live ), the above official Parliamentary Research Briefing makes alarming reading if you are a Conservative supporter. As of April 2018, Conservative membership is put at 124,000, narrowly ahead of the SNP at 118,000.
    Conservative membership collapsed from 1 million in 1990 ( see page 7 ) to less than 500,000 5 years later ( John Major ). Apart from a brief period, it has been declining steadily since the year 2000, especially from 2009 ( David Cameron).
    It is no longer a mass membership political party, it is Conservative In Name Only and at the beck and call of any (((big donors ))).
    This situation cannot continue much longer. Its hold on political power will be ended shortly unless there is a turnaround, which seems unlikely.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  41. @jilles dykstra

    Because the only ones left who possess the courage to criticise are the ones who possess the hate :)

    • Replies: @nsa
  42. And if using racial distinctions for full citizenship while also bombing hospitals and schools while lining up snipers to shoot thousands of unarmed Palestinian demonstrators is not Nazi-like behavior, then what is? Israel and its leader are sometimes compared to Nazis and to Adolf Hitler because they behave like Nazis and Adolf Hitler.

    With all due respect Phil, you’ve fallen squarely into the trap of repeating Zionist propaganda regarding Hitler and the Nazis, who never committed crimes that Zionist commit against the Palestinian people on a daily basis.

    • Replies: @ISmellBagels
  43. RobinG says:
    @Biff

    That’s not grammar, it’s syntax. ha ha

    • Replies: @Biff
  44. @Biff

    Jap it is real funny. I have never learned English grammar, but I did notice something strange.
    Why would somebody shoot already dead protesters.
    Maybe McCain?

  45. @Justsaying

    Since Jews own or control about 90% of the world’s wealth, it’s hard saying NO to your banker and survive.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    , @renfro
  46. Another great article by Dr. Philip Giraldi.

    Jonathan Cook has also recently written a very good article on the current Israeli engineered onslaught against Jeremy Corbyn, making much the same argument as Dr. Giraldi.

    https://www.jonathan-cook.net/2018-08-25/israel-hidden-hand-jeremy-corbyn/

  47. @Anon

    Hoards of Palestinian immigrants could never do the damage that a relatively small number of Jews have done to England, with the same being true for virtually every other country dependent on Jewish bankers for their survival.

    • Replies: @Anon
  48. DFH says:
    @Deschutes

    Maybe not in such a blanket way, but you can already see how the anti-BDS movement is restricting free speech

  49. Miro23 says:
    @tac

    “They hope that by taking action against him, they can decapitate what they see as the most powerful figure in this network,” he told Middle East Eye. “By making an example of him, they can sow division, spread fear and suppress speech on Israel.”

    But beyond a certain point it becomes counter-productive.

    The Daily Mail for example, has been running Jeremy Corbyn Anti-Semitism hit pieces for weeks – sometimes 3-4 different ones each day – always with “moderated” (i.e. censored) comments), but reading through even this vetted commentary there are clear signs of Anti-Semitism fatigue setting in.

    There’s also the British tradition of sympathy with the underdog, especially when Corbyn is obviously being targeted by the much hated Blairite, Remain, open frontiers Globalist/banking crowd.

  50. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Touché. Of course he was sensibly thinking that he could perpetrate that kind of joke because no one was ever going to take him seriously let alone give him a shot at the Prime Ministership.

  51. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Carroll Price

    Don’t confuse your case against Israel First Jewish influence with that total Hicksville rubbish about countries being “dependant on Jewish bankers for their survival”. You just brand yourself as an economically illiterate rube and outsider with that crap.

  52. @Colin Wright

    David Duke has never said he hated Jews, nor has he advocated violence against Jews. His crime is stating the facts on Jewish power in America. Read some of his stuff. Most who do walk away realizing they were duped by his detractors.

  53. Jake says:

    “It might surprise some that the “Mother of Parliaments” in Great Britain is perhaps the legislative body most dominated by Israeli interests, more in many respects than the Congress in the United States.”

    Not me. WASP culture was born of a Judaizing heresy. Them’s the inherent fruits of Judaizing heresy.

    You cannot separate the Jewish problem from the WASP problem.

  54. And the blame for all of this, from soon-to-be-illegal criticism of Israel to Rotherham to blacks twerking and mugging people in London, can be lain at the feet of drunken sell out Winston Churchill. No wonder he’s such a hero to the globalists.

  55. Their power is unrelenting and shows no signs of abating. As long as they control the narrative in mainstream mass media, it’s gonna be a brick wall. The downfall will be of their own making, in that they never know when to quit. Their desire for total power and control is apparently limitless.

    • Replies: @Ben Sampson
  56. Iris says:

    This is a great article and a very fine analysis.

    A few other points may be were worth mentioning:

    1) The persecution of Jeremy Corbyn is re-launched by the well-choreographed MSM every time an important outcome is at stake. The current infighting within the Conservative Party about Brexit makes a parliamentary general election likely, which would greatly increase Labour’s representation, under a leader who can neither be bribed, nor blackmailed. Theresa May’s current visit to Africa is a positive hint that she is appealing to minority constituencies.

    But there could be a more covert foreign policy goal: Israel with the UK Deep State in tow are preparing an attack against the Iran/Syria alliance. Corbyn will never approve such military intervention. So Israel needs to bring Corbyn down to eliminate parliamentary opposition to military intervention in the ME.

    2) The financial industry, who incidentally is totally committed to Israeli interests, holds the most prominent position in the UK’s hierarchy of power. It has greatly increased its power thanks to the monetary policies followed over the decades past. Corbyn and McDonnell, his shadow Chancellor, have a radically different economic manifesto , with debt-creation used China-style to re-launch the general economy instead of further enriching the financial markets.

    https://www.rt.com/shows/renegade-inc/436922-world-economic-crisis-2008/

    3) The UK is indeed totally under Israeli control, although such control is much more subtle than in the US. But France’s situation is even worse: for instance, the war on Libya was solely decided by “philosopher” Bernard- Henri Levy, a French national of Jewish heritage acting as the unofficial Israel ambassador.

  57. John90 says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Consider making permanent use of that second passport.

  58. Emanuel says:
    @Tyrion 2

    A load of bullshit! The Zionists want a ‘holy cow status’, period. Israel’s crimes are unparalleled in history and its advocates want all western politicians to be complicit by silence. Corbyn is actually more popular now and their bitching is backfiring badly.

  59. John50 says:
    @Anon

    Like a normal, thinking man who refuses to be cucked by Jews, maybe Corbyn is merely interested in denying Jews what the Jews unquestionably deny every White nation.

    It need not e anymore complicated than that. Until the Jews outside of Israel fall in line there is no reason that a dollar or word of support should go to nationalism in Israel. They will not benefit from nationalism when it suits them, and globalism when it suits them. To view their mainstream position at its most conservative, read the “conservative” Jews at the Washington Post. Jewish “centrism” amounts to a gatekeeping charade wherein the muh constitushon is invoked just enough to keep the Right at bay and the path open for the Globohomo Left. We see them. No thanks.

    It is clear that the Jews will not allow Israel to be over-run. That decision is always made in an office, and there is no office in Israel that will make that decision. Stop with your victim narrative. The West outside of Israel, and Israel, are not-comparable in terms of their vulnerability.

  60. After reading the inside information about the CROWD on American Pravda, it seems, basically, waste of time to read about fringe items, knowing that those people have been at it since the revolt of Bar Kochba and aren’t going to give up the taste of humanity’s weakness anytime soon, unless their own community wakes up enmasse to its source of wellbeing and tremendous wherewithal (but can an elephant know its source of madness while reveling in Musth secretion?) … Jeremy Cornyn is merely a hidden cog in the wheel of the Diaspora; I would not put faith into his saving the Palestinians anymore than Norman Finkelstein, not that it’s my cross to bear; let Talha bear that burden on the Via Dolorosa of the perennial Muslim victimhood!

  61. Iris says:
    @Anon

    In which way is Carroll Price’s comment “economically illiterate”?

    Who lent billions to insolvent customers, then deliberately bet against them, then got the obedient Obama to bail them out with taxpayer money because it was “too big too fail”?

    I thought it was Goldman Sachs, I must have been misled by conspiracy theorists.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Anon
  62. Biff says:
    @RobinG

    And then a grammar Nazi shows up. Arrrgggg!!,,

  63. geokat62 says:

    This deference all takes place in spite of a recent astonishing expose by al-Jazeera…

    Speaking of astonishing exposes, the Electronic Intifada has just released segments it has obtained of the Al Jezeera censored and undercover film, The Lobby – USA.

    One segment shows Eric Gallagher, a former employee of The Israel Project, telling an undercover Al Jazeera reporter about Adam Milstein’s (an Israel lobby financier) role as funder of Canary Mission,* The other segment shows Milstein talking about the need to “investigate” and “expose” critics of Israel, who Milstein believes are not only anti-Semites, but also “anti-Christian” and “anti-freedom” activists who “terrorize us.” The film also reveals that Israel lobby operatives who rely on information provided by Canary Mission “coordinate” their activities with the Israeli government.

    *Alongside his associate Sheldon Adelson, Milstein is a high-profile figure in the Israel lobby.

    Milstein’s foundation funds such anti-Palestinian organizations as the Israel on Campus Coalition, StandWithUs, CAMERA, the AMCHA Initiative and the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

    Milstein also funds the Israeli-American Council, a lobby group whose board he chairs.

    An Israeli-born real estate mogul based in California, Milstein served time in federal prison for a 2009 conviction for tax evasion.

    Canary Mission has targeted some 1,900 students and academics in its profiles since 2015, smearing them as “racist,” “anti-American” and “anti-Semitic.”

    https://electronicintifada.net/content/censored-film-names-adam-milstein-canary-mission-funder/25356

    • Replies: @renfro
  64. @Carroll Price

    We should never call them Jews. All we have to call them Burzhuj.

  65. @Iris

    Iris remembers & wrote: “… then got the obedient Obama to bail them out with taxpayer money because it was “too big too fail”?
    Hi Iris,
    Lest we forget that our late-Hero, “Maverick,” Zenator John McCain, joined with his leftist campaign opponent, Barack Obama, & agreed to stop campaigning until The Untouchable Robbers-On-High were guaranteed a taxpayer (generations-to-come!) “bail-out.”
    Thank you!
    Selah, The AIPAC-Candidate-Cat Scan vetting system which, selah, can determine presence of Jeremy Corbyn-ism Disease.

    • Agree: Iris
  66. Ivan K. says: • Website
    @Deschutes

    I’m glad for the Off-Guardian because it presents a huge collection of reasons why The Guardian is shit that can be readily put forward to any Guardian reader. By doing that I keep my morale by avoiding being silent in face of their stupidity, and give people help to save their minds at virtually no cost to me, i.e. without wasting my time and nerves with them.

    • Replies: @Deschutes
  67. @Anon

    You are the one mentally deficient not Caroll.
    Never heard about “Its the money that makes the world go around.”
    And how come Goym are so retarded that they are not able to make their own banks? Ha?
    (After all Banks are nothing more than guarantors of payment.)

    • Replies: @Anon
  68. @Jake

    Mother of parliaments?
    So English were the ones who invented Parliament.
    Only one thing about this is peculiar to me!
    If English invented Parliament why they did give to it French name?
    Parle means to speek.
    Menti means to lie.
    ……………………………………..
    Can you explain that to me?

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
    , @unseated
  69. @Anon

    I suggest you steer your remarks toward the leaders of Iran, N. Korea, Syria, Russia and Venezuela who’re struggling to survive because they won’t borrow any interest-bearing money from Jews.

  70. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jon Baptist

    They have taken down German FM for suggesting the alternative to American stranglehold on financial control

  71. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Yes. When parliament was founded many of the upper class and the royal house commonly conversed in French. Just like many russian aristocrats pre-revolution.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  72. England, US, anywhere: if they don’t like what’s being said/written you are going to be charged with stuff, it goes with the territory. Apparently Isl has agent(s) in the Va GOP or is this just for expediency?

    Virginia Republican Party accuses Democratic candidate Leslie Cockburn and her 1991 book, Dangerous Liaison: The Inside Story of the U.S.-Israel Covert Relationship, of fueling anti-Semitism. She co-wrote the book with her husband, Andrew Cockburn.Huffington Post

  73. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    A pity you are just plain illiterate or too lazy to read and concentrate on what was said.

    • Replies: @Iris
  74. Anon[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Try and learn to understand and write English with some vague semblance of precision before you trouble your betters by bursting in on their conversations. Sorry, I know you need this explained but it would take too long, too much trial and error, with emphasis on error.

    PG was very kind and polite in his answer to you #73. You should thank him humbly.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  75. druid says:
    @Rational

    Sorry mate, but this faction cannot be civilized. This behavior is Talmudist and has been in effect on and off for 2000 years! Destructive cult!

  76. @Realist

    Why do Whites allow this bullshit???

    Because for the past 30 years or more, Whites have, the 1st day of kindergarten been taught that they’re trash. That they are to be embarrassed and ashamed of their race, and that they must always debase themselves before the Negro.

    • Replies: @Realist
  77. renfro says:
    @Deschutes

    It is easy to see why the Jews have made so many enemies over the years: they really see themselves as very separate and much better than everybody else.

    The Jews claim superiority but in reality they are eaten up with feelings of their inferiority.
    This is what makes them vicious toward others.

    This superiority ‘mask’ has long been recognized as a psychological defense mechanism that compensates for an inferiority complex.
    The term was coined by Alfred Adler as part of his school of individual psychology.

    Its basically a ‘fraud’…..that we all have probably observed in others who lie, exaggerate, and brag about themselves and denigrate others to bolster their image. They hate themselves but hate others even more, and everything they do is in service of asserting a superior face no matter what the reality actually is.

    If you read Jewish writers carefully you can see it…..how they always ‘compare’ themselves to non Jews in everything and twist reality into a pretzel to come out on top. A true Superiority complex doesn’t do comparisons’ , they ‘assume’ their superiority without any need for explanation.

  78. druid says:
    @Wally

    I wish I could agree with you that it’s all coming down, Wally, but I fear these psychopaths will pull another one on us. They’re masters at the game!

    • Replies: @Wally
  79. renfro says:
    @Carroll Price

    Since Jews own or control about 90% of the world’s wealth, it’s hard saying NO to your banker and survive.

    I doubt that’s true. But that’s how it ‘appears’ because Jews put large sums into ‘buying government’ and promoting their wealth …..more so than gentile billionaires do…..so their money stands out.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  80. The Holocaust story is getting old and will become irrelevant over time. Expanding the laws of what is antisemitism will become unenforceable and irrelevant. How many of us can we put in Jail for speaking freely? An anti jewish backlash is not going to help anyone.

    • Replies: @renfro
  81. The GOP Candidates Do Pander To The Evangelicals On The Israel Question.

    The GOP Candidates Do Pander To Jew Billionaires On The Israel Question.

    Tweet from 2015:

    The Jews In Israel — Led By Netty-Yahoo — Rightly Reject Mass Immigration.

    Why Do U.S. Jews Push Mass Immigration For The USA?

    Tweet from 2014:

  82. Israeli Jews and Jews who have infiltrated European Christian nations such as England and the United States understand that mass immigration will be the issue that dislodges them from power in European Christian nations. The Jews are on the wrong side of the immigration question, and that will give rise to the growing debate about the Jewish Question in European Christian nations.

    US Senator Tom Cotton is an untrustworthy stooge for the Israel First Interlopers in the Jew-controlled Neo-Conservative faction in the Republican Party.

    Tom Cotton has been tasked by the Neo-Cons with corralling the White Core American GOP voters on the immigration issue so as to keep the GOP White Core American voters in the Republican Party.

    Tom Cotton’s role is to make a big show about doing something about the mass immigration invasion destroying the United States in order to keep the voters on board for more ISRAEL FIRST wars in the Middle East and West Asia. Tom Cotton puts the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States. Tom Cotton is an untrustworthy fraud.

    Immigration will be the issue that destroys Jew control over the media and banking in the United States and England.

    Tweets from 2015:

  83. @renfro

    I don’t doubt it. Most billionaire Gentiles are held hostage by Jewish bankers who can call in their loans any time they take a notion. And that includes Donald Trump who’s damned-well aware of the fact. Why else, would you think, he’s so willing and eager to kiss Sheldon Adelson and Benjamin Netanyahu’s ass?

    • Replies: @renfro
  84. Realist says:
    @Carroll Price

    Because for the past 30 years or more, Whites have, the 1st day of kindergarten been taught that they’re trash.

    I understand, but don’t Whites, at least after they grow, up have the intelligence to think for themselves???

  85. ohmy says:

    It has really gone over the top, this hounding and berating, the pure hatred that the Zionist factions exhibit towards anyone who may have the slightest measure of public influence. I am quickly coming to the opinion that the Zionist Jew believes their control of society at large is so complete that they can come out of their closet to show their collective Talmudic ass to the world.
    There is very little time remaining for “us” to shake off the rust, to wake up, and gather our wits together to defend what they have spent the past 140 years destroying. And, what have they been destroying? The list is long so I’ll just mention here just a few societal targets the Zionists have almost completely destroyed: morals, value of labor, currency, logic, religion and GOD, science, honest good government, and common sense, are but a few.
    How did they get this far? As Mayer Rothschild famously said; “I care not what laws a country makes, as long as I control the money”. Right there is the answer. Today $21 Trillion is declared missing/stolen from just2 departments of the USG, DoD and HUD. When a senator asked the chairman of the FED (a private corp.) where the missing loot went, he answered; “We have no idea”. And that was that. By charter we can not audit the FED, yet for 2018 we will pay the FED, the 6 shareholders, $500 billion for interest earned. Earned?
    Anyway, as Catheriso ne Austin Fitts answered when asked; What does anyone do with $21 Trillion? She answered. “What ever they want to”. Well fair enough. So with a little imagination I can tell you what they did with $21 Trillion. Obviously they bought every state and federal politician, all levels of law enforcement including the Supreme Court, they funded start ups such as Google, Facebook and Twitter, created Bitcoin, Wikipedia, Wiki Leaks, the super bot Q, the term Fake News, and much more. They did this world wide with change to spare, a lot of it.
    Are you getting the picture yet? Whatever you can imagine just add it to the list. Does it strike you odd that the, so called religion, Jew represents less than 2% of the worlds population, but is employed in areas such as our State Department in numbers closer to 30%, or higher. The same holds true for higher education at our most prestigious universities. The percentage climbs towards 90 in some areas like banking, and publishing. How does this happen in a secular society? The only answer that fits is it has been their plan for well over 140 years, and they stuck to it. If you think I’m full of crap just take an hour or 2 and do some investigating on your own. Search the pre-WW1, and 2 headlines. They read just like today’s. Do a search for news of 6,000,000 Jews dead, dying, or in danger. You’ll find over 20 articles spouting that 6 mil number prior to 1935. Some from the NYT. That’s all.

    • Agree: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  86. @ISmellBagels

    kill the global financial system!

    let the nations of the world take back their central banks and currencies..let them make their own commercial banks…

    do the same in America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand..and western Europe

    smash WTO..IMF..WO..SWIFT..BANK OF INTERNATIONAL SETTLEMENTS etc!

    replace the current currencies with new bills and coins. render the old ones defunct and non negotiable

    do that and the Jewish global power dies..the state of Israel collapses..and the money they have stolen already would rot in whatever holes they have it buried

    and if Israel activates their Sampson Option as they have said they will if they are going to lose, taking down the world with them, what would the world do?

    interesting

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  87. @Realist

    white people make so much noise yet they are ideally placed to end Jewish domination but they never do..they just continue to bitch all the time while slaving away to keep the Jews in power

    interesting

    • Agree: renfro
    • Replies: @Realist
  88. renfro says:
    @geokat62

    Canary Mission has targeted some 1,900 students and academics in its profiles since 2015, smearing them as “racist,” “anti-American” and “anti-Semitic.”

    There are several of these Jewish groups who stalk Israel critics …Camera also has a ‘most wanted’ site listing American teacher/professors as ‘anti semites’ .

    Why has no one put up a site listing all the ‘un american’ Israel thugs and supporters—–sounds like a good project….I would help support one.

    • Replies: @Ben Sampson
  89. @Realist

    No. Only a small minority of Whites, and even smaller number of Blacks have the ability to think for themselves, which is why they are so easily led-around by sharpies and demagogues.

    • Replies: @Realist
  90. @Deschutes

    ’ll never understand why so many fixate on it, such as the Off-guardian.org bloggers who’ve devoted an entire blog for years on end to criticising Guardian journos, ‘comment is free’, comment mods, etc. All fine and good, but why? With so many other better news sources is there a need?

    Off-Guardian does more than just criticize The Guardian–a lot more. While they still run their ‘Censored by CiF’ pieces regularly, most of their articles come from other sources and they also do quite a few original article as well.

  91. @ohmy

    Does it strike you odd that the, so called religion, Jew represents less than 2% of the worlds population, but is employed in areas such as our State Department in numbers closer to 30%, or higher. The same holds true for higher education at our most prestigious universities. The percentage climbs towards 90 in some areas like banking, and publishing. How does this happen in a secular society?

    The exact same situation occurred in pre-Word War 2 Germany. A small pamphlet-sized book that I have, but can’t find, was written on that very subject.

    http://zionismunveiled.blogspot.com/2009/09/jewish-dominance-in-pre-wwii-germany.html

  92. Wally says:
    @druid

    Of course they will try, they have profited mightily; but I sense a critical mass is occurring.
    Too many people are now onto their game.

    The fake ‘holocaust’, the outrageous parasitic Jew state of Israel, the suppression of conservative voices in the media & internet, those fed up with the totalitarian EU & UN, etc. are all creating a perfect storm of a sort.

    Will it be immediate? No. But the die is cast, there is no going back.

    Regards.

    http://www.codoh.com

  93. @renfro

    why help support one as opposed to setting it up yourself?
    why wait…..?

    • Replies: @renfro
  94. renfro says:
    @Carroll Price

    I don’t doubt it. Most billionaire Gentiles are held hostage by Jewish bankers who can call in their loans any time they take a notion.

    You need to update your info on Jewish wealth the banking financial world….and you may be falling for the outdated Rothschild is the biggest richest bank in the world myth.

    Suggest you study this list:

    The List
    2018 Ranking Real Time

    https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/2/#version:static

    While there are some Jews like Bloomberg, Adelson , etc… they are crushed worldwide by non Jews, particularly by new Chinese billionaires.

    As for billionaire gentiles afraid of Jewish bankers…also a myth and you may be confusing bankers with hedge fund Jews.

    These are the 28 biggest banks in the world — each one with more than $1 trillion of assets…none of them are Jewish.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/biggest-banks-in-the-world-2018-5#1-industrial-and-commercial-bank-of-china-china-400-trillion-28

    The ‘investment bankers (different from commerical banks) like Jewish Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, and UBS all miss out on the $1 trillion mark and rank way down the list at 35th, 34th, and 38th respectively.

    As for the Rothschilds :

    The family has spawned hundreds of descendants, so there is no longer any centralized Rothschild family wealth. The closest thing to a “Rothschild Family” business in 2016 is the Rothschild Group, a multinational investment banking company, but that firm does not in itself generate nearly enough income to back up claims about the family’s wealth.
    In 2015, the Rothschild Group’s annual revenue was approximately $500 million. In comparison, the world’s largest company, Walmart, has an annual revenue of nearly $500 billion.

    It should also be noted that only one member of the Rothschild family is included among Forbes’ 2015 list of the world’s billionaires: Benjamin de Rothschild, who was ranked at number #1121 with a net worth of $1.61 billion.
    While the Rothschild family certainly was one of the world’s most significant financial powers in centuries past, they no longer wield the same sort of influence over global affairs

    Neither Walmart nor the Koch brothers is quaking in their boots over Jewish bankers denying or calling in their loans…..the largest bank in the world is Chinese owned, they would be delighted to loan all the gentile honchos as much money as they want.

    • Replies: @Paul C.
    , @Carroll Price
  95. renfro says:
    @The Palestinian

    An anti jewish backlash is not going to help anyone.

    I disagree. While not advocating mayhem and violence against Jews…..an anti Jewish backlash would be good for making Jewish fifth columnist unacceptable in US government and perhaps help get them out of our media and academia.

    And of course that backlash should also include the politicians that support them.

    Traitor trumps anti-Semite every day of the week in every country in the world…always has always will.

  96. Moi says:
    @Rational

    The milquetoast Corbyn had it coming. He does not understand that the more he gives in, the more he gets his ass kicked by the Zios. Labor has a Corbyn when it needs a Tony Benn.

    • Replies: @byrresheim
  97. renfro says:
    @Ben Sampson

    I have nether the expertise or time…but I can provide support.

  98. Moi says:
    @Donald

    Yes, it is one heck of piece of moral and intellectual bravery. Blew me away.

  99. renfro says:

    Democratic Jew…

    Eric Alterman:

    “”I am a dual loyal Jew and sometimes I’m going to actually go with Israel, because the United States can take an awful lot of hits and come up standing. Whereas if Israel takes one serious bad hit it could disappear. So there’s going to be some cases where I go with Israel…
    “”I think that bin Laden and 9/11 were to some degree inspired by U.S. support of Israel. I think a great deal of the terrorist attacks and the sort of pool of potential terrorists who want to attack the United States are inspired by the United States support for Israel. I’m not saying we shouldn’t support Israel for that reason. I’m saying, Dammit if that’s the price we have to pay, then I’m willing to pay it.”

    Republican Jew….

    Sheldon Adelson:

    “I am not Israeli. The uniform that I wore in the military, unfortunately, was not an Israeli uniform. It was an American uniform, although my wife was in the IDF and one of my daughters was in the IDF … our two little boys, one of whom will be bar mitzvahed tomorrow, hopefully he’ll come back– his hobby is shooting — and he’ll come back and be a sniper for the IDF,” Adelson said at the event….“All we care about is being good Zionists, being good citizens of Israel, because even though I am not Israeli born, Israel is in my heart.”

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  100. renfro says:

    Url Avnery:

    ”The leaders of the “Zionist State” depend to a large extent upon the Diaspora and use it for their own purposes. The Exile-Jewish AIPAC ensures the subjection of the US Congress to the will of the Israeli government. The “Anti-Defamation League” (which should more properly be called the “Defamation League”) is terrorizing the American media in order to prevent any criticism of Israeli policy. In the past, the United Jewish Appeal was essential for the economic wellbeing of Israel.

    For years, the foreign policy of Israel has been based upon the power of the Jewish “exile” community in the US.

    Every country, from Egypt to Uzbekistan, knew that if it wanted aid from the American Congress, it had first of all to acquire the support of Israel. In order to get access to the American Sultan, they first had to get past the Israeli gate-keeper.”

    Sorry but its not ‘just a few Jews’ who support Israel . Its preached in their synagogues, their 1001 Jewish chapters across the country. The Jews believe that they are ‘entitled’ to an ‘exception’ in loyalty to a foreign country just because they are Jews….and our politicians have allowed them this entitlement.

  101. sophiejo says:

    This excellent article by Philip Giraldi makes one serious error: It assumes that adoption of the IHRA definition of antisemitism by parliamentarians will somehow make a law of it that proscribes antisemitism:

    ‘The Labour National Executive Council will meet in September to vote on full acceptance of the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism. When they, as is likely, kneel before force majeure that will be the end of free speech in Britain. Criticize Israel and you go to jail.’

    It will not; the IHRA definition, even if it is adopted by all parliamentarians, will not become law. Law in this jurisdiction is not made by adoption. Besides, it is, according to Hugh Tomlinson QC, a faulty document that cannot become the basis of a legislation. And if it were to be the basis of action against anyone by any adopting body other than parliament, that body would be open to action against it on the basis of article 10 of the ECHR (the free speech guarantee):

    https://freespeechonisrael.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/TomlinsonGuidanceIHRA.pdf .

    In fact, the only purpose to which that quite risible definition can be put is to be available as a sort of bible on the basis of which ‘you are so antisemitic’ claims might rest. But that will only make us shriek with laughter, for giving a Jewish organisation the role of decider of what amounts to antisemitism is the perfect exemplifier of the reductio ad absurdum fallacy.

  102. @Anon

    Your shield is the cheapest one you get at Walmart.
    So ether you should get a better one or stop debasing my friends.

  103. Iris says:
    @Anon

    One phrase, two insults, not one single economic argument argument. I am dead impressed.

  104. @Biff

    Putting down the Nazis i.e. comparing them to I$rael is what Hollywood and the Jewish controlled media desire. If you study Nazi Germany, speeches by Hitler, the Nazis had NO CHOICE but war. The USA’s FDR in 1938 advised Poland NOT to accept Hitler’s Danzig Agreement which asked for a vote by the people in western Poland. Poland was ready to accept, but FDR & Churchill told the Polish gov’t to say NO. Who really started WWII is THE QUESTION.

    Victors’s write the history and today in most countries No. Europe, it is jail time to tell the truth of WWII. See Aug. 2018 trail of Canadian Monika Schaefer, German lawyer Sylvia Stotz or 90 y.o. Ursala Haverbeck. The N(J)ew World Order i.e. 1984 is here.

  105. Anonymous[381] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jake

    Christianity = Judaizing heresy.

    “For it is we [Christians] who are the Circumcision.” Philippians 3:3

    • Replies: @sophiejo
  106. Realist says:
    @Carroll Price

    That doesn’t bode well for the White race.

  107. Realist says:
    @Ben Sampson

    Not all Whites, but many Whites are truly stupid.

  108. EagleEyeX says:
    @Ben Sampson

    Excellent…EXCELLENT, Mr. Sampson……..If I am not mistaken your point, stand the fuck up for what you believe, is the only way to win. It is a little akin to what Marcus Aurelius said when Maximus refused the offer to run the empire instead of Commodos, “for that reason it must be you”.
    Anybody, anywhere on this planet now a days that would just take a goddamed stand with the people will succeed. Just tell the truth ….tell it like it is for Christ sake . They are all so busy covering there asses from so many sides..and the people are on to it. I promise you, any body in a position like Corbyn’s that would throw his fate to the wind and put on some balls , would have the peoples back.

  109. @Biff

    I’ll wager more than one IDF soldier has fired at corpses in Gaza.

    • Replies: @renfro
  110. @jilles dykstra

    One wonders why [British] politicians sit on their asses, waiting to defend themselves against a predictable Zionist/Jewish onslaught, instead of going on the attack and play out offensive cards of foreign [dual citizens] interference in British politics?

    side note: not saying things are any better in the US [or elsewhere for that matter].

  111. @Anon

    I prefer the term Globohomogayplex.

  112. CT says:

    What’s reprehensible is not Jews or Zionists who advocate for Israel but non-Jews who do their bidding, especially politicians. These are the real traitors who should be tried for sedition. Whether for money or fundamentalist Christian beliefs, they betray their country and in so doing cause irreparable damage to democracy.

    • Agree: renfro
    • Replies: @anarchyst
  113. And if using racial distinctions for full citizenship while also bombing hospitals and schools while lining up snipers to shoot thousands of unarmed Palestinian demonstrators is not Nazi-like behavior, then what is? Israel and its leader are sometimes compared to Nazis and to Adolf Hitler because they behave like Nazis and Adolf Hitler

    OMG, PG!

    Please consider educating yourself about Nazi behavior before you go around spouting nearly century old war propaganda. The least you could have done was to use the word, “alleged” when describing Nazi behavior as in, “because they behave like Nazis and Adolf Hitler allegedly did.”

    You can do yourself and many others a favor by reading Douglas Reed’s, The Controversy of Zion,https://archive.org/stream/TheControversyOfZion/TheControversyOfZion_djvu.txt

    The main flaw in his work is his similar attitude towards Hitler, but he wrote it in 1955 and people should have figured out the truth by now.

    Also, you can start by studying this short piece,

    “… this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth.
    If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler’s Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions…”

    Murray Rothbard, Revisionism for Our Time
    Mr. Rothbard was an American Jew and an historian of the very highest caliber.

    http://mises.org/daily/2592

  114. nsa says:
    @Amber Dekstris

    Just wait until the intensely sado masochistic marriage of the vile chrissie dominionists to the even more vile jooies ends……..some serious hate will remain long after the perverted love has disappeared.

  115. @jacques sheete

    You’re right jacques – I should have written “alleged”

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  116. unseated says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Technically the English (not the British which is much later – after the Act of Union in 1707 I think) Parliament is not the oldest parliament. Both the Isle of Man and Iceland had parliaments that predate it. Then there was the Roman Senate, and other legislative assemblies in history. Once should take the term “Mother of parliaments” with a grain of salt.

    The English Parliament evolved from the Royal Council of King John emanating from Magna Carta in 1215. At that time, until the 15th Century, the language of the Court and of the gentry was Anglo-Norman – a French dialect.

  117. Bucky says:

    But Mr. Corbyn seems to have gone a step further by befriending Hamas.

    Say what you will about Israel, Hamas and Black September were also villains and while their struggle is understandable, their actions are despicable.

    Everyone should be an Israel skeptic. But going so far as to befriend Muslim terrorist groups is going too far.

  118. Bucky says:
    @Anonymous

    The way this happened was because the people who migrated from Europe to America broke ties with institutions in Europe and they created new traditions and new readings of the Bible.

  119. anarchyst says:
    @renfro

    There used to be a time in American jurisprudence that anyone who served in a foreign military would lose their United States citizenship.
    It’s long overdue to prohibit “dual citizenship” and serving in a foreign military.
    Loss of United States citizenship for the above actions should be swift and permanent.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Wizard of Oz
  120. geokat62 says:
    @Bucky

    But going so far as to befriend Muslim terrorist groups is going too far.

    Tell that to the Western governments who, beholden to The Lobby, have provided succour to these groups.

  121. Biff says:
    @Bucky

    No statesman has befriended more terrorists than John McNasty McCain, and just check the fawning media’s love for the little prick, as they lay him down for his dirt nap.

    • Replies: @Bucky
  122. Anonymous[799] • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    To prohibit “dual citizenship” is to prohibit Christianity. “But our citizenship is in Jewheaven.” (Philippians 3:20) Jewheaven being a foreign capital city in Asia. (Revelation 21:2) Are you ready to give up your dual citizenship? Which way would you choose? Jewsus demands you hate and forsake your own blood and soil (Luke 14:26, Matthew 19:27-30), so Jewsus is not much into the dual citizenship thingy either. You have to make a choice.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  123. As I’ve said before it’s time to use the words counter-semitism.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  124. unseated says:
    @Bucky

    A terrorist is a person with a bomb but without an airforce.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Bucky
  125. Bucky says:
    @Biff

    Yeah. But this is about Corbyn.

  126. Paul C. says:
    @renfro

    If the Central Banks are not run by private zionist bankers, than how is it possible that every country is in debt? Shouldn’t many “prosperous” countries be in surplus? Who are they all in debt to?

    Do you realize the creation of the FED was the result of a conspiracy? Sam Walton, Trump and most of the world’s most successful are Freemasons, therefore, part of the synagogue of satan. They willingly embrace Lucifer for financial gain.

    Private Zionist Central Banking (think cartel or mafia) is the head of the snake (serpent) from which all the world’s evil flows (constant wars, terrorism and false flags). Control of the wealth results in control of the gov’t, education, medical, justice, finance, media, history and religion.

    Look what’s happening in Sweden and yet their media won’t discuss the obvious. This is true all over. There’s still no media coverage of WTC building 7, nor coverage of the 9/11 First Responders to hear their thoughts on what they saw that day. A complete blackout. There was never an attack at the Gulf of Tonkin, we were lied into Vietnam. WMD’s in Iraq was a lie. American zionist bankers helped fund the Bolshevik revolution as well as Hitler and Nazism. How come the Balfour Declaration and the Transfer Agreement haven’t made it into the history books. The creation of the state of Israel had a large role in the world wars.

    We’re being fed lies by those controlling the Matrix. No country is allowed to manage their own Central Bank, hence we’re all enslaved.

    http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/only-3-countries-left-without-a-rothschild-central-bank-3-more-wars/

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  127. @Donald

    I used to run construction projects in Los Angeles … all but one developer I worked with on the West Side of town was owned by jews.

    More than one of those developers required that the subcontractors make sizable contributions to the JDL in the name of the developer — otherwise, no job. The minimum contribution was $50,000 — this was in the early-’80s.

    They screwed every subcontractor they could – I even remember an israeli who, on the day of the month when he was supposed to pay the subcontractors, was going to short every one of them at least 15% of their payment – just because he was a greedy bastard. I saw what he was about to do – and I reminded him that one of those subcontractors had done time behind bars for shooting a developer/general contractor who had cheated him. My boss (the israeli) asked me which one of the subcontractors I was talking about — and I told him to go ahead and short them all as he was planning to do and then make sure he kept a gun close at hand for the next year or so.

    He paid all of them in full – at least that time.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  128. @anarchyst

    Allow me to ask how a person born a US citizen could be deprived of citizenship. I think I sense a Constitutional problem.

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
    , @anarchyst
  129. Akbar Ali says:
    @Ben Sampson

    Ben Sampson wrote, “and if Israel activates their Sampson Option as they have said they will if they are going to lose, taking down the world with them, what would the world do?”

    Anyone who is pushing the FAKE Sampson Option opens himself/herself to suspicions …..

    Seems as usual Hasbara is very busy……

    Akbar Ali

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Ben Sampson
  130. Bucky says:
    @unseated

    Perhaps true, but I don’t really care. Muslim terrorists are our enemy.

    • Replies: @unseated
  131. anarchyst says:
    @Anonymous

    Your hasbara roots are showing. Since when does civil citizenship equate with personal religious or ethical beliefs?
    You, my friend are obviously a member of Israeli unit 8200.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  132. anarchyst says:
    @Bucky

    It was on Jan. 4, 1948, when Jewish terrorists drove a truck loaded with explosives into the center of the all-Arab city of Jaffa and detonated it, killing 26 and wounding around 100 Palestinian men, women and children.1 The attack was the work of the Irgun Zvai Leumi—the “National Military Organization,” also known by the Hebrew letters Etzel—the largest Jewish terrorist group in Palestine. The Irgun was headed by Revisionist Zionist Menachem Begin and had been killing and maiming Arabs, Britons and even Jews for the previous 10 years in its efforts to establish a Jewish state.
    THIS was the first modern day act of terrorism and was committed by JEWS…

    • Replies: @Bucky
  133. Anonymous[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    The holy-roller branch of Christianity devoted to Rapture-Zionism isn’t the problem. Love of Israel goes way, way deeper in Anglo culture.

    I will not cease from Mental Fight,
    Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand:
    Till we have built Jerusalem,
    In Englands green & pleasant Land.

    BBC approved:

    WE WORSHIP what we do know, for salvation is from THE JEWS.” John 4:22

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  134. unseated says:
    @Bucky

    Well at least we know where you stand.

  135. Bucky says:
    @anarchyst

    I am aware. But I don’t care.

    Hamas-sympathetic groups and individuals are killing Americans and Europeans now. They will in the future as well. Corbyn is doing the coward leftist move where they hug the violent thug, subconsciously in the hope that they won’t be targeted if they are nice enough to the violent person.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @jacques sheete
  136. Akbar Ali says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Wizard of Oz wrote, “Allow me to ask how a person born a US citizen could be deprived of citizenship. I think I sense a Constitutional problem.”

    It used to be a law in USA, when a person born in USA acquired the citizenship of another country then he/she was deprived of USA citizenship. Even denied visa to visit the USA. The visa is given on the basis, “one is guilty until proven innocent.”

    Meaning, if one wants USA visa, then he/she wants to migrate to USA, thus one had to prove they don’t have any desire to migrate to USA.

    There are lots of horror stories, where USA born women married Mexican, moved to Mexico and then acquired Mexican citizenship. Once the husband dies, they could not return to USA, as the visa was denied to them as it was taken they definitely wanted to migrate back to USA.

    Akbar Ali

  137. Akbar Ali says:

    Zionist Media: Nasrallah Has Made Israelis Feel Humiliated

    Zionist media outlets tackled the latest speech delivered by Hezbollah Secretary General Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah on August 26 on the first anniversary of the Second Liberation (liberating the Lebanese northeastern borders with Syria from the terrorist group), considering that the Resistance leader is a “professional orator”.

    The Israeli analysts maintained that Sayyed Nasrallah follows up Zionist press carefully, adding that his eminence has the enough experience to launch a psychological warfare against the Zionist entity.

    “Nasrallah frightened us and made us feel humiliated,” one of the Israeli analysts stressed.

    One of the Zionist experts criticized the Israeli media outlets for highlighting all the reports which “threaten the interests” of the occupation entity.

    Hezbollah Secretary General Sayyed Hasan Nasrallah said Sunday the Israeli military cannot escape defeat despite its apparent capabilities, stressing that thousands of Israeli troops were now seeking mental health treatment.

    http://english.almanar.com.lb/569743

  138. anarchyst says:
    @Akbar Ali

    I must respectfully disagree with your dismissal of the Samson option…as Israel’s nukes are already distributed around the world. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”.

    If a nuclear device is “lit off” in an American or European city, it will have Israel’s fingerprints all over it. Israel is desperate to keep the American money spigot running, as well as sabotaging the Palestinian “peace process” that the world wants it to take seriously.

    In fact, if a nuclear device is “lit off” anywhere in the world, it will have come from Israel’s secret nuclear “stockpile”.

    [MORE]

    The “power outage” in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical “sleight of hand”, as an Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the “power outage” without receiving U. S. customs clearance or inspection. This is one of many Israeli companies that possesses a “special exemption” granted by the U S government that frees it from customs inspections. Just maybe another one of Israel’s nukes was just being pre-positioned or nuclear triggers (tritium) were being renewed, getting ready for “the big one”. As most Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel’s benefit, another “incident” on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel’s benefit. Israel’s “samson option” is a real threat to “light one off” in a European or American city, if Israel’s interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper.

    No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”.

    This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets “foreign aid” in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

  139. anarchyst says:
    @Bucky

    You may find out that there is a much greater affinity by jews towards moslems than any supposed affinity of jews towards gentiles. Jews and moslems are derived “from the same cloth”. In fact, one could safely surmise that islam is an arabicized form of judaism.
    1. Both “belief systems” express supremacism of their respective “cult” over others…
    2. Both “belief systems” have different rules and laws imposed on those who are non-believers…
    3. Both “belief systems” proscribe much lighter punishments for transgressions against non-believers
    The only major difference between Islam and judaism is the treatment of Jesus Christ and Christianity. Judaism has a visceral, deep hatred of Christianity and Jesus Christ, even stating that Jesus Christ is an apostate, “burning in excrement for eternity while his mother Mary was a harlot who conceived Jesus Christ with a Roman soldier. These are Talmudic teachings that every jew is aware of. Even today, jews in Israel routinely spit on passers-by and in front of Christian churches.
    On the other hand, moslems regard Jesus Christ as a “great prophet”, not the “Son of God”, but a great and wise man while his mother Mary is specifically mentioned in the koran, being given a place of high honor.
    Question for Christian zionists–which “belief system” has greater respect for Christianity? Hint: It ain’t judaism…

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
    , @Anonymous
  140. @Philip Giraldi

    Thank you Sir!

    Now, please note that I’m correct about your reading assignments as well. And remember that the Nazis were threatened by the Commies, several large brutal empires, jealous industrialists and bloodthirsty bankers just to name a few, and that both Lenin and Stalin were much more brutal than Hitler and had a head start as well.

    You protest, and with justice, each time Hitler jails an opponent; but you forget that Stalin and company have jailed and murdered a thousand times as many. It seems to me, and indeed the evidence is plain, that compared to the Moscow brigands and assassins, Hitler is hardly more than a common Ku Kluxer and Mussolini almost a philanthropist.

    - H. L. Mencken, in an open letter to Upton Sinclair, printed in The American Mercury, The Open Forum, June 1936, p.vii

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/AmMercury-1936jun:5?Period=1936&Text=protest+with+justice&HitList=03548a2b519d922a1e0d1f871c9fa8c4

    Bless you.

  141. anarchyst says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    There used to be a time when an American citizen who chose to serve in a foreign country’s military would automatically lose American citizenship.
    That was struck down by the supreme court by someone who sued to be allowed to vote in a foreign country’s election.
    That was a big mistake by the supreme court…
    Of course, Israel has always been an “exception”. Look at the forty or so congresscritters who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel or the thousands of high-level “policy wonks” who are also “dual citizens” who are infecting our state department, to do “what is good for Israel”–Israel’s bidding…

  142. @Bucky

    But going so far as to befriend Muslim terrorist groups is going too far.

    Please be careful how you use that word. The world is awash with plenty of terrorists, and the worst ones are those who are hardly ever fingered as such, wear smoke blue ties, and have access to bags of money.

  143. @Paul C.

    The creation of the state of Israel had a large role in the world wars.

    Also 20th century Communism, and yes, we are all enslaved, but don’t tell that to the wage, tax and debt slaves; they don’t like being told the truth. Besides, as one newly minted US Army major told me, “we’re not all wearing handcuffs,” are we? ;)

    • Replies: @Paul C.
  144. anarchyst says:
    @CT

    It’s not “fundamental Christian beliefs”. Christian Zionists are “useful idiots” who will be cast off as soon as Israel gets what it wants.
    The “Schofield translation” of the Bible, elevating jews to the position of “our elder brothers” is responsible for the misguided actions of these Christian Zionist fools.
    The Catholic Church has also been hijacked into elevating jews as well. Before Vatican II, Catholic doctrine stated that the jewish “blood libel”–the responsibility for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ was on jewish hands was a valid concept. Vatican II (mistakenly) changed all that, as its “advisors” included jews and protestants.
    It is interesting to note that, to this day, jews are PROUD of the fact that they crucified Jesus Christ, even bragging about it on television shows in Israel.

  145. @Anthony Aaron

    Hey, c’mon! They’re great bizniss men, smart, with high IQs, they’re chozen, and besides, they’re poor wittle viktumz what suffered in “De” “H”olerckost!

    Give ‘em a break, will ya? ;)

  146. @renfro

    Quite impressive, but what you conveniently fail to mention is that due to the US dollar being the world’s reserve currency, no one is allowed to use their wealth without first converting it to Federal Reserve Notes created by the Federal Reserve bank, which in turn is owned by Jews.
    .
    While it’s true that Russia and Iran alone could easily supply enough oil to sustain the world’s economy, they aren’t allowed to sell it due to US (Federal Reserve) sanctions cutting off their access to the world currency exchange system. With this being true due to their refusals to allow Wall Street bankers full access to the country’s natural resources.

    So, while it’s true that many non-Jews are immensely wealthy, what good does it do them if they can’t use it without complying with rules and regulations set-up by Jews?

    Anyway you cut it, Jews own out-right, or control 90% of the world’s wealth.

  147. @Bucky

    I am aware. But I don’t care.

    Hamas-sympathetic groups and individuals are killing Americans and Europeans now.

    Zionists have been killing more than a few Americans and Europeans for a while now as well, and I’m not only referring to the disaster of the USS Liberty and 9/11.

  148. @Akbar Ali

    I am pushing nothing….
    anything someone says can generate whatever including suspicion of whatever….

    I have read of the Sampson Option. I think it is valid and obvious given what we are dealing with. the Khazars have committed vast crimes against humanity all along the way, terrible crimes. their outlook and way of life and what they have done so far tells us what our future will be under Khazar domination. it is not a pretty picture.

    the Khazars are not fools…they are well aware of whats in store for them if they lose their social power. and that too is not a pretty picture. it seems obvious they would develop the defense/offense to protect themselves if they losing..have lost.

    that is the most obvious thing in the world. that is why the were utterly determined to get the bomb. they did not stop and got the bomb. and they have demonstrated all along the capacity to use the bomb. do you doubt that?

    see what the Neo Cons are doing right now..stoking war with Russia. if that gets going what? so are they afraid of using the bomb? obviously No!

    the Khazars are aware of what they have done and do in the world and aware that the commensurate and equal response of the rest of the world is to eliminate them. and for that they are ready and capable.

    the Sampson Option seems the most simple and logical option of defense/offense, that they would prepare such to protect themselves…and if they have to take us all down including themselves they will. are you sure suspicion for stating the obvious should be directed at me…or at you for dismissing the obvious……

    we are at the point of the most full development of Khazar power in the world. the world is up against it now for the resolution of the capitalist contradiction is the same as resolving the Khazar probem. the Khazars and capitalism are one and the same. it is resolve both of we descend into Khazar Brave New World and slavery for us..not to mention all sorts of biological adjustments to ensure we love our permanent state of existence and will not revolt

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
    , @Akbar Ali
  149. @jacques sheete

    The truth is that everything most people THINK they know about Hitler and Nazis Germany (including the holohoax) is the result of 70+ years of 100% Zionist propaganda.

  150. I have no idea how humanity will resolve the Khazar problem and survive. I hope there is a peaceful, survival way out but I dont see it

    the only seemingly peaceful way out is for Khazar supremacy to prevail, with all the obvious consequences for the rest of us.

    I wish to be wrong..absolutely, utterly wrong, and that humanity will survive the consequences of our development to this stage and evolve socially into democracy and indefinite survival in nature

  151. Anonymous[311] • Disclaimer says:

    two words: BALFOUR DECLARATION

  152. Sparkon says:
    @Bill jones

    As I’ve said before it’s time to use the words counter-semitism.

    Perhaps, but a better plan might be to drop all references to imprecise terms like semites, semitism, semitic and what have you, since those terms may apply to Arabs — especially Palestinians — as well as to Jews, so they say.

    It’s like saying someone who doesn’t like dogs is anti-carnivore.

    Why don’t Jews use the more precise terms anti-Jew, anti-Judaic, or anti-Judaism when they play their dog-eared victim card?

    But the even bigger question is why do humans continue to pay homage to the ancient mumbo jumbo found in Christianity, Islam, and Judaism when those bogus beliefs are the root cause of many if not most of the world’s problems?

    Beyond historians and scholars, why should anyone care in the slightest what those ancient ignorant idiots thought, believed, or practiced?

    It’s way past time for humanity to grow up, and sweep the ancient superstitions into the dustbin of history.

    • Replies: @Ben Sampson
    , @Colin Wright
  153. what I am saying is that the Khazars must be held to and brought to account for their crimes against humanity. they must pay….. the directly guilty parties

    and the Khazar people who support their criminals whole, mostly all…their philosophies of life must be brought into the open, into the light and dissected for truth and corrected openly..at the same time all human philosophies, abstractions and beliefs examined same way.

    this must be done even if it takes a generation to complete it-ongoing even after that…examined against the truth proven so far by humanity, corrected, discarded, held in abeyance till more truth is won from nature. we know the Khazar Chosen people thing is deliberate and dangerous nonsense so that goes almost immediately

    all the other vast criminals against humanity from other human groups must be dealt with also..those alive and those dead must also be dealt with posthumously..must be brought to account.

    how can humanity go on otherwise?

  154. Akbar Ali says:
    @anarchyst

    anarchyst wrote, “Jews and moslems are derived “from the same cloth”. In fact, one could safely surmise that islam is an arabicized form of judaism.”

    With due respect I am not in agreement with you. The Arabs are original Jews, Christians and Muslims, especially those Arabs in Palestine, Jordon and Levant. Jesus spoke Aramaic to his disciples, as Hebrew was a dead language and was revived from Arabic in early 20th century.

    Judaism is a Polytheist religion and based on the superiority of one race. They even have a name for God, as God is their property.

    Islam is Monotheists religion and based on there is, “No god but God”. Meaning there is only one God for all the Creations. There is no name for God in Islam. And, the recurring central theme of the Quran is that, “Man is an Oppressor.” Whether in form of husband, wife, mother, father, brother, sister, relatives, rulers, kings have the propensity of becoming oppressor. The tree has no significant in Islam, but God warns Adam and Eve, not to approach the tree, lest they become of the oppressors.

    anarchyst wrote, “On the other hand, moslems regard Jesus Christ as a “great prophet”, not the “Son of God”, but a great and wise man while his mother Mary is specifically mentioned in the koran, being given a place of high honor.”

    Very true. Both Prince of Peace Jesus (as) and Virgin Marry are mentioned in the Quran. Chapter 3, which is the second largest chapter in Quran called, “Aale Imran (Family of Imran)” is about Jesus and Mary. Chapter 19, is called, “Mariam (Mary)”. In fact, Mary is called Virgin in Quran and Jesus is from Virgin Birth. Virgin Mary is mentioned almost in every chapter of Quran. God of Islam seems to be in awe of Virgin Mary, her innocence, piety, worship, and so forth.

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @anarchyst
  155. but on second thought they practice the Jewish religion so anti-Jew would be more precise

    but I wish to find a term that would always expose who most of the Jews really are every time they are considered, individually or collectively during a days life

  156. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Akbar Ali

    “And, the recurring central theme of the Quran is that, “Man is an Oppressor.” Whether in form of husband, wife, mother, father, brother, sister, relatives, rulers, kings have the propensity of becoming oppressor. ”

    With all due respect, it seems that this “central theme” is unknown to millions of Muslims around the world. If it isn’t unknown, they don’t consider it “central” . They don’t even pay lip service to this “central theme”.

    Otherwise, how would you explain that millions of Muslims obey and follow their oppressors ?

    Maybe you would agree that one of these oppressors is the House of Saud.

    Not only the Saudis do nothing against their oppressor (certainly because they are very happy with their slavery, like most people) but millions of Muslims do accept this oppressor and corrupt family to be the guardian of the holy sites.

    And everyone knows that this family is in bed with alleged enemy of Islam -Zionism.
    It’s then reasonable to conclude, imho, that for Muslims the central theme of Quran isn’t that ““Man is an Oppressor.”

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
    , @Akbar Ali
  157. Akbar Ali says:
    @Ben Sampson

    Ben Sampson wrote, “I have read of the Sampson Option. I think it is valid and obvious given what we are dealing with. the Khazars have committed vast crimes against humanity all along the way, terrible crimes. their outlook and way of life and what they have done so far tells us what our future will be under Khazar domination. it is not a pretty picture.”

    If Sampson option is truth, why other countries don’t implement this option. Why USA and USSR took the world to the brink of WWIII by USA installing Nukes in Turkey and in return USSR installing them in Cuba.

    USA has embassy in the capital of Russia and many consulates in quite a few large Russians’ cities. Vice versa, Russia has embassy in USA capital and many consulate too.

    Even the 200 Nukes in Israel are useless because they have become obsolete. Below are three short videos of Sayyid Hassan Nasrallah posted on UR, this site:

    http://www.unz.com/video/sayedhasan_hassan-nasrallah-vows-to-turn-israels-nuclear-bomb-threat-on/?highlight=nasrallah

    http://www.unz.com/video/sayedhasan_hassan-nasrallah-1000s-of-missiles-to-hit-tel-aviv-if-israel/?highlight=nasrallah

    http://www.unz.com/video/sayedhasan_hassan-nasrallah-warns-israel-final-war-is-coming-no-one-wan/

    Akbar Ali

  158. anarchyst says:
    @Akbar Ali

    You make some good points, but are incorrect in stating that judaism is “polytheistic”. Jews believe in ONE God, making them monotheistic, the same as muslims.
    Maybe you can answer this:
    It seems that many muslims are intolerant of others who do not believe as muslims do. By invoking “jihad” (conquest) it seems that (some) muslims have declared “war” on the rest of humanity. It seems that many muslims adhere to the same “supremacist” philosophy as their jewish counterparts. All one has to do is look at the “jizya” tax that is imposed in Islamic countries (only) on non-muslims, as well as denying non-muslims the right to confront mulsims in Islamic courts as well as the inability to testify against muslims. If that isn’t supremacism, I don’t know what is…
    Jews HAVE declared war on the rest of humanity, covertly, by wresting control of the mainstream media, many governments (yes, the USA) and control of banking systems throughout the world.
    Both Islam and judaism have a lot to answer for, and need to reform their practices if they want to remain relevant in 21st-century society.
    Regards,

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
    , @Colin Wright
  159. geokat62 says:

    This one is for you, Sam. Hot off the press. An article by your fave, Krugy. It seems my observation that many of your coreligionists are beginning to worry about things unraveling quickly may not be too far off the mark. In addition to Madeleine Albright’s (born Marie Jana Korbelová) recently published book Fascism: A Warning, Paul Krugman has just penned an article, ominously entitled Why It Can Happen Here.

    Excerpts from, Why It Can Happen Here: We’re very close to becoming another Poland or Hungary.

    Soon after the fall of the Berlin Wall, a friend of mine — an expert on international relations — made a joke: “Now that Eastern Europe is free from the alien ideology of Communism, it can return to its true historical path — fascism.” Even at the time, his quip had a real edge…

    And it could all too easily happen here. There was a time, not long ago, when people used to say that our democratic norms, our proud history of freedom, would protect us from such a slide into tyranny. In fact, some people still say that. But believing such a thing today requires willful blindness.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/27/opinion/trump-republican-party-authoritarianism.html

    So, according to Krugy, you have to willfully blind not to notice the “fascist threat” rearing its ugly head. That’s why I’ve consistently and repeatedly called for The Lobby to cease and desist from implementing their nefarious activities. I call upon you to do the same, Sam… before it’s too late.

  160. Akbar Ali says:

    anonymous[253] wrote, “With all due respect, it seems that this “central theme” is unknown to millions of Muslims around the world. If it isn’t unknown, they don’t consider it “central” . They don’t even pay lip service to this “central theme”.”

    You are absolutely correct. Judaism, Christianity and all other religions were hijacked on the onset and Islam was no exception. Islam was changed while the body of Prophet was still warm and not yet buried yet.

    Prophet’s grandson Hussein and his granddaughter Zaynab who is buried in Syria, showed us the meaning of standing up to oppression. Hussein is called the, “Master of Martyr”. He stoop up to sixth Caliph Yazid with 72 men. They were all butchered, and then his brave sister Zaynab carried the mantle, high open head without hijab in the court of Yazid, the grandson of abu Sufyan, the arch enemy of the Prophet. Yazid father, the fifth caliph murdered the father of Hussein, the fourth caliph Ali. After that caliphate became dynasties. The first caliphate dynasty is called, “Omayyad”, the tribe of abu Sufyan.

    Hussein standing up to oppression, is celebrated by Shia, for 10 days each year. From 1st of month of Muharram to the 10th of Muharram. Then to forty days, until 20th Saffar, the following month.

    World’s Biggest Pilgrimage Now Underway, And Why You’ve Never Heard of it!

    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/sayed-mahdi-almodarresi/arbaeen-pilgrimage_b_6203756.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer_us=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_cs=RKhAwoEozKDXH73YicY1rw

    Imam Hussain: The Man Who Opposed the Founding Fathers of ISIS

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/imam-hussain-the-man-who-opposed-the-founding-fathers_us_59c2f7fbe4b0be1b32c196f1?guccounter=1

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @anonymous
  161. Akbar Ali says:
    @anarchyst

    anarchyst wrote, “It seems that many muslims are intolerant of others who do not believe as muslims do. By invoking “jihad” (conquest) it seems that (some) muslims have declared “war” on the rest of humanity.”

    anarchyst wrote, “All one has to do is look at the “jizya” tax that is imposed in Islamic countries (only) on non-muslims”

    Very true. Islam was no exception and it was hijacked on the onset while the body of the Prophet was still warm and not buried yet. The caliphate system was created and Islam was spread by sword. Those countries who were conquered, they had 3 choices:

    1. Become Muslims and pay 2 and 1/2% tax.
    2. If one still wanted to be stay as Family of Book they were allowed to, but had to pay 10% tax.
    3. The rest were taken in slavery.

    When the Prophet fled from Mecca from the oppression of abu Sufyan. He fled to Medina, and he lived at the bottom of the mountains. The tops of the Mountains were occupied by three very rich Jewish tribes. They were Arabs, but Jews. Abu Sufyan started waging wars on Mohammad in Medina, so the Jews told Mohammad that they didn’t want to be part of these wars. They were as usual double dealing.

    So, Mohammad signed with them the constitution of Medina, which some says the constitution of USA is based on. Basically, we are all equal and have one government with equal rights for everyone. Those who don’t want to participate in the defense of the state, don’t have to. Everyone is to pay 2 and 1/2 tax, but those who don’t wont to serve in the military and want the protection of the state, has to pay extra protection (jiyza) tax which is higher than the regular tax to provide protection. Everything changed while the body of the Prophet was still warm.

    anarchyst wrote, “You make some good points, but are incorrect in stating that judaism is “polytheistic”. Jews believe in ONE God, making them monotheistic, the same as muslims.

    Jews used to worship Aziz as son of God, but they rejected Jesus. When they came out of Egypt, they were “Cow Worshipers”. They were saving money and gold to buy a particular “Cow” for worship. When Moses visited God for 40 days and nights, they couldn’t stand it anymore, so they build the “Golden Calf”. This is both in the OT and Quran in the second chapter called, “Cow”. Anyhow, Moses destroyed the golden calf, but they kept their gold and money for that particular “Cow”. The complete “Cow” story is in the Quran and in the second chapter, and for this reason the chapter is called, “Cow”

    Akbar Ali

  162. Akbar Ali says:

    anarchyst wrote, “By invoking “jihad” (conquest) it seems that (some) muslims have declared “war” on the rest of humanity.”

    Very true! Islam was hijacked while the body of the Prophet was still warm and not buried yet. The caliphate system was created and Islam was spread by sword for money.

    The third caliph Osman, who ruled from 10th year to 27th year of Mohammad’s demise was very greedy. He was nepotistic, and believed in building palaces for him and his kin. He kept the Islamic army very poor and in rag tag. They got so tired of fighting wars and conquering for him, that they murdered him and kept his body under siege for days, and didn’t allow his burial. He was buried with no one attending his funeral like a pauper. But he was successful in installing his cousin Muawiya, the son of abu Sufyan, who then made caliphate as dynasty and created the “Omayyad” dynasty named after his and Osman tribe.

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Iris
  163. Akbar Ali says:
    @Ben Sampson

    Ben Sampson wrote, “I am pushing nothing….”

    You sure? Why other countries with nuclear power like Pakistan, don’t have Sampson option so that they can blackmail the World like Israel does….

    Why USA put missiles in Turkey and USSR in return put them in Cuba, bringing the World to the brink of WWIII.

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  164. Dr Giraldi,

    we don’t agree about Christianity, especially from the vantage of fundamentalists.

    But we disagree that Israel has far too much influence on US policy. And while I think I recognize the value to my faith, nothing in scripture supports that I subordinate my faith to tat of Jews or Israel. No christian is subjective to the demands of any Jew or Israel, save those established by Christ and the apostles.

    Christ never even suggests laws be established to uniquely defend Judaism or Israel from criticism. And while I support Israel’s right to exist, I cannot support her wanton smear campaign against those who criticize her policies. I am unclear what weirdness is taking hold of US politicians or those in Europe who subscribe to anything and everything that Israel demands. I keep hoping that this country will return to the posture of healthy debate minus the manipulation intended to destroy the lives of those who disagree.

    I would love to applaud technology for empowering free exchange, but it has also unleashed the worst of human weaknesses and that is deeply saddening.

    All that to say, I appreciate your information. And despite being a conservative, I think Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn is entitled to his views minus the character assassination. And in my view, PM May is just distracting from her own policy dilemmas — exiting the EU, something she would love to sabotage.

    God Save the Queen — excuse my pro monarchy tilt

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  165. Akbar Ali says:
    @anonymous

    Please see my post #166 in reply to your great post….

  166. Akbar Ali says:
    @anonymous

    anonymous[253] wrote, “It’s then reasonable to conclude, imho, that for Muslims the central theme of Quran isn’t that ““Man is an Oppressor.””

    I fully concur with you. Please see my detailed reply in my post #166, to your above excellent post.

    Akbar Ali

  167. @Anonymous

    ‘The holy-roller branch of Christianity devoted to Rapture-Zionism isn’t the problem. Love of Israel goes way, way deeper in Anglo culture.

    I will not cease from Mental Fight,
    Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand:
    Till we have built Jerusalem,
    In Englands green & pleasant Land.’

    Doesn’t that pretty much demonstrate the opposite — that ‘Jerusalem’ is not a city located in the Judean hills, but a concept, that can be realized anywhere?

    The same, incidentally, applies to ‘Israel.’ It is not primarily a geographical place. The geographical place is ‘Palestine.’

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  168. Anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    If mother Mary was a harlot who conceived Jesus Christ with a Roman soldier, at least Jewsus would be half white! But Christianity has a visceral hatred for the Whiteness represented by the Roman Empire. You consider a half-White savior to not be worth anything at all compared to an all-Jew savior. You’re a traitor to your own race by worshiping Jewness. Your brain is full kiked.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  169. @Akbar Ali

    ‘Ben Sampson wrote, “I am pushing nothing….”

    You sure? Why other countries with nuclear power like Pakistan, don’t have Sampson option so that they can blackmail the World like Israel does…’

    The ‘Samson Option’ doesn’t exist anywhere except in the idle speculation of a journalist and the desperation of Zionists for a valid argument.

    No nation — and this includes such fanatically self-sacrificing entities as Imperial Japan — has ever chosen national suicide when the chips are down. Germany didn’t release clouds of Tabun in 1945, the Soviet Union didn’t exit the stage with a real big bang, and apartheid South Africa went quietly into that long good night, atomic bomb or no.

    Israel — of all places — won’t make a defiant last stand. An incredible third of the Jewish population already would emigrate if only they could. She’s going to go out with a whimper, not a bang. The last Zionist to leave the country will be escorted onto the plane by Muslim-dominated police.

  170. Anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    No christian is subjective to the demands of any Jew or Israel? So you’re not actually loyal to the the Jewish Rabbi who is styled as the “King of Israel?” (John 1:49) Then you’re not actually a Christian.

  171. @anarchyst

    ‘Both Islam and judaism have a lot to answer for, and need to reform their practices if they want to remain relevant in 21st-century society.’

    Let’s leave Islam aside. How is Judaism relevant now?

    It’s a faith practiced by — generously — 0.2% of mankind. We might as well concern ourselves with how the Bahais are going to fare in the new millenium.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  172. Anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    You can say that ‘Jerusalem’ is not a city located in the Judean hills, but the map shows different. The transgender propaganda has got to you, now you’re promoting transgeography. “A city or nation isn’t an actual place, it’s merely a social construct.”

  173. @Sparkon

    ‘…But the even bigger question is why do humans continue to pay homage to the ancient mumbo jumbo found in Christianity, Islam, and Judaism when those bogus beliefs are the root cause of many if not most of the world’s problems?’

    This argument is weakened by the observable fact that when Christianity and Islam are abandoned, things get worse still.

    The worst atrocities of the last century were committed not by religious fanatics, but by adherents of the decidedly anti-religious doctrines of Nazism and Communism. The troops of Tsarist Russia weren’t noted for correct behavior, but even their worst outrages pale beside the horrors committed by the Red Army. The most savage autocrat in the Arab world was not the ruler of religious Saudi Arabia, but the dictator of pseudo-socialist Iraq, Sadaam Hussein.

    There are all kinds of considerations, but on the whole, I think it’s fairer to say that Christianity and Islam have done more to temper our natural inclination to savagery than to exacerbate it. For example, the Church in the New World worked to ameliorate the oppressions inflicted on the Indians, and in fact, things got worse for the Indians, not better, when the Church was weakened in the wake of the collapse of Spain’s empire.

    I deliberately omit Judaism, as it lacks the universalist pretensions of Christianity and Islam, and in fact, the behavior of modern Israel is hardly a testament to the moderating influence of that faith.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Allan
  174. anarchyst says:
    @Colin Wright

    The only reason judaism is relevant now is that they are in control of most of the world’s governments, financial banking systems, educational institutions, and major media outlets. These methods of control make them powerful despite their small numbers.
    If I had my way, judaism (outside of Israel) would be a disqualifier for just about any public service or political system.
    You are correct about judaism being less than 2%
    Judaism does not proselytize, at least not openly. Islam demands “conversion” by any means necessary.
    Judaism has a lot to answer for…but so does Islam.
    It is not possible to separate the like practices of these two belief systems.
    Fact:
    Both systems have a supremacist streak that marginalizes “outsiders”.
    Both have a “legal framework” that also ostracizes outsiders with lesser legal “protections” and punitive taxes only for non-believers.
    Regards,

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  175. anarchyst says:
    @Anonymous

    Your reading comprehension needs improvement.
    I despise anything that is jewish…
    I said NOTHING about Jesus Christ and Mary, but was merely quoting the jewish talmud which denigrates Christianity to the extreme and criticizing the stupidity of Christian zionists who fall for jewish BS hook line and sinker….
    Lean to read and comprehend, pal

  176. Paul C. says:
    @jacques sheete

    Yes, our fellow slaves take it personally as if we’re attacking their intelligence which of course we’re not. We’ve all been ensnared at birth with the birth certificate and social security number. We were involuntarily made US (federal) citizens without an explanation of the terms. The USA is a corporation operating in Admiralty law (of the sea). We need to revert back to our status (on the land) as American State Nationals (Sovereigns). This gives us Common Law rights. I haven’t had the time to fully vet this to determine any potential repercussions perhaps regarding employment, etc.., but plan to look into soon.

    The military is key to our success but unfortunately they’re trained to take orders and not question authority. The task is to educate them and perhaps retired ex-military types can assist.

  177. Anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:

    You keep forgetting the simple fact that both Jesus and Mary are Jewish. If the Jews hated Jesus, it’s just Jew-on-Jew violence. Blacks do the same thing. No need for whites to take sides in such infighting.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Paw
  178. Anonymous[333] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    You deliberately omitted Judaism, because its inclusion blows up your harebrained theorizing, Mr. Anti-fa. How’s the weather in Tel Aviv?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  179. @Anonymous

    ‘You deliberately omitted Judaism, because its inclusion blows up your harebrained theorizing, Mr. Anti-fa. How’s the weather in Tel Aviv?’

    Another one for my collection! I’ve been called a Zionist, and an anti-semite. Now I can add ‘anti-fa’ to the list.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  180. anarchyst says:
    @Anonymous

    For one, judaism is not entirely monolithic. There were many “sects” within judaism.
    Jesus Christ was of the Essene sect, a “splinter group” within judaism. As Pharisees ran the whole “kit and kaboodle”, they were the ones who had the political power.

  181. Iris says:
    @Akbar Ali

    “anarchyst wrote, “By invoking “jihad” (conquest) it seems that (some) muslims have declared “war” on the rest of humanity.”
    Very true! Islam was hijacked while the body of the Prophet was still warm and not buried yet. The caliphate system was created and Islam was spread by sword for money.”

    This is not “very true”, it is utter poppycock.

    “Jihad” does not mean “conquest”, it is either a defensive preservation struggle against an external enemy, or an internal spiritual fighting against one’s weaknesses (the greater Jihad).

    As per which muslims have “declared war on the rest of humanity”, here is a clue: it is the “muslims” terrorists kindly looked after in Israeli IDF hospitals.

    https://www.pinterest.fr/pin/421016265145070175/

    • Agree: byrresheim
    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  182. Anon[235] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    And

    Who Can Control Israel’s Arms Dealers?

    Excerpts
    Emphasis added

    ”Israeli arms dealers, security services, and consultants span the globe. They dominate the airport security industry and have also been linked to training, equipping, and intelligence-gathering for corrupt and dictatorial regimes in Africa, Asia, and Latin America. Security companies sometimes work as stringers for Israeli intelligence and may have ties to criminal groups including burgeoning Russian-Israeli organized crime in the United States.”

    ”The weapons have also wound up in the hands of criminal cartels and narcotics traffickers, mingling arms sales with large-scale fraud, extortion, and drugs. ”

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/who-will-control-israels-arms-dealers/

  183. Anon[235] • Disclaimer says:

    The CPP helps Canadians profit from the US/UK/France Air Strikes Against Syria

    Our Canada Pension Plan (CPP) investments now include:

    $209 million in war industries that made all of the Cruise Missiles and other Weapons used in the April 2018 Attack on Syria
    $360 million in the world’s top ten war industries (nine of which went up thanks to the April 2018 air strikes against Syria)

    Coalition to Oppose the Arms Trade (COAT) tables on CPP’s 2016/2017 investments:

    $5.5 Billion in firms supporting Israeli Apartheid

    http://coat.ncf.ca/

  184. ONES RELIGION DOES NOT MAKE ONE A SEMITE.
    Paletinians are semites. Lebanese are semites people ofthe levant sre semites.
    Further Arab semites never left.
    The ral anti -semites are anglo-zionist /christian zionist and zionist in geeral.
    The expouse supremacist fascistic anti human ideoogy

    • Agree: Akbar Ali
  185. Paw says:
    @Colin Wright

    Was K.Marx right ?
    Money as the source of all evil, Satan’s mighty power tool. When now,there is money for everything in plenty ,even on debts..And most of it sure in the wrong hands.

  186. Paw says:
    @Anonymous

    Looks now, like they both were Palestinians..

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  187. Akbar Ali says:
    @Paw

    Paw wrote, “Looks now, like they both were Palestinians..”

    Excellent catch, that both Prince of Peace Jesus (as) and his mother Virgin Mary (as) were both Palestinians.

    Akbar Ali

  188. Akbar Ali says:
    @Iris

    Iris wrote, “This is not “very true”, it is utter poppycock.”

    Try to bring proof instead of words with no meaning. As per my claim it is in all Islamic history, that the third caliph Osman was so busy in minting the coffers of Islam by invading country after country. He kept the Islamic Army underpaid and ragtags, while he was busy building palaces for him and his kin. He was murdered by his own Islamic Military and they didn’t allow his body to be buried for several days.

    Prove me wrong by proof?

    Iris wrote, ““Jihad” does not mean “conquest”, it is either a defensive preservation struggle against an external enemy, or an internal spiritual fighting against one’s weaknesses (the greater Jihad).”

    Yea, yea, yea. The ISIS theology is embedded in Islam. Time for Muslims to come clean, rather than hide under the rock. The best thing happened to Islam that ISIS theology was exposed. The liver eaters were exposed:

    Imam Hussain: The Man Who Opposed the Founding Fathers of ISIS

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/imam-hussain-the-man-who-opposed-the-founding-fathers_us_59c2f7fbe4b0be1b32c196f1?guccounter=1

    World’s Biggest Pilgrimage Now Underway, And Why You’ve Never Heard of it!

    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/sayed-mahdi-almodarresi/arbaeen-pilgrimage_b_6203756.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer_us=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_cs=RKhAwoEozKDXH73YicY1rw

    Time for Islam to come clean…

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Iris
  189. LondonBob says:
    @Verymuchalive

    I live in London, thanks for paying so muchnattention to me, weirdo.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  190. @Moi

    I am afraid you might be right.
    Very afraid.

  191. @Michael Kenny

    Corbyn will porbably win and he opposes Brexit

    Corbyn does not oppose Brexit, although many in his party do.

  192. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Hi Akbar – The Great

    “Judaism, Christianity and all other religions were hijacked on the onset and Islam was no exception. “

    This seems to me, at best , unconvincing. Unless one considers that there is just only one religion -Judaism- and that Christianity and Islam are a “by product “ of Judaism.

    In that case there was no need to hijack Judaism. And as you know, some say that we should not consider Judaism as a religion. If by religion one means love of God.

    If Christianity and Islam were not hijacked, what happened then ?

    I would rather take the opportunity to ask you a question. Let’s then go back to the central theme of Quran :“Man is an Oppressor.”

    You agree that isn’t true for most Muslims, but would you say that there is an exception, and the exception is the Shiites ?

    Thank you for your kind words about my post and for your thoughtful reply and the links.
    Unfortunately I couldn’t open them. Something to do with my browser.

    thanks

  193. I think most of the Russophobia in western media stems from the fact that the Russians refuse to be dominated by a particular ethnic minority and their foreign state. The US and Britain, on the other hand …..

    • Replies: @anonymous
  194. Iris says:
    @Akbar Ali

    جحاد – الجهاد الاكبر – Jihad – Al Jihad Al Akbar:

    “Jihad” refers to internal as well as external efforts to be a good Muslim or believer, as well as working to inform people about the faith of Islam.

    If military jihad is required to protect the faith against others, there are strict rules of engagement. Innocents – women, children, invalids – must never be harmed, and any peaceful overtures from the enemy must be accepted.

    You have no knowledge whatsoever of basic islamic concepts, and no basic knowledge of Arabic words universal within the muslim faith.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Akbar Ali
  195. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally Streeter

    on the other hand …..maybe all this Russophobia is just to convince the proles that Russia is AGAIN the new enemy which is very good business indeed for the western MIC-Surveillance state and the Russian MIC-S. Of course most of the people already forgot the cold war 1.

    Those giving us the cold war 2 – the so called neo-cons, aren’t that stupid to star a war against Russia.
    They don’t need to. Russia is controlled by the same force that controls America. Russia, although less known, is a very important member of “the force.”. Find out who’s Putin’s best friend and you can be sure there will be never a war between USA and Russia. The truth is simple.

    If one ignores all the fake Russophobia going on, it isn’t that difficult to understand this.
    Russia is, always was “the best enemy money can buy.”

  196. Anonymous[183] • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    So you don’t believe the Jew Testament, that’s cool. Don’t be so sophomoric when you’re being schooled in what it says.

  197. Anonymous[183] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    When you are openly anti-facist, don’t be surprised if you’re called anti-fa.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  198. PIE says:

    Great fun in the integrally related CIA/Mossad Russian witch hunt, too.

    They smoked out another CIA mole in DoJ, Bruce Ohr, hubby of Nellie Ohr of Open Source Works, CIA’s abortively-Glomared online secret police

    https://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2011/12/cia_osw/

    Meanwhile we have a frantic modified limited hangout by CIA: Yes, Halper is a CIA spy, but he wasn’t framing CIA political opponents as foreign spies, he was catching Russian spies who were framing CIA political opponents as foreign spies, so there!

    https://saraacarter.com/whistleblower-exposes-key-player-in-fbi-russia-probe-it-was-all-a-set-up/

  199. @Iris

    The UK is indeed totally under Israeli control,

    I wouldn’t call it “totally” since Islamization proceeds also apace, including other “cultural enrichment” programs, which, BTW, threaten this very Israel control. So, it is complex but the fate of traditional England (UK) which is on its way to a complete ethnic and cultural suicide.

    • Replies: @Iris
  200. @Rational

    ” As I read it, I felt sick in the abdomen, at how low the Zionists have sunk, demanding that those who criticize Israel go to jail. ”

    It is not the Zionists who have gone low but the traitorous Gentiles who put Jewish interests above the interests of their own kind.

  201. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    “The UK is indeed totally under Israeli control, although such control is much more subtle than in the US.”

    You’re 100% right. But if the control is total, it can’t be subtle…and indeed it isn’t. That american poodle -Tony Blair, was essentially an Israeli poodle. OTH you can say the “total control” is subtle for those who can’t see or are too dishonest to admit it because they know they won’t have a career if they do.

    Like in USA, no one can become a British PM w/o being a Zionist. Corbyn isn’t a Zionist, therefore he must be destroyed. If he manages to be elected, you can be sure that the deep state will find a way to force him to resign. That will be easy. Corbyn can’t control his own party.

    “for instance, the war on Libya was solely decided by “philosopher” Bernard- Henri Levy”

    BHL is just a clown. He doesn’t have any power. He doesn’t decide anything. The war on Libya was decided by “the force”. BHL is just a clown and a salesman.

    • Replies: @Iris
  202. RobinG says:
    @Iris

    Thank you for exposing this troll.

    • Replies: @Iris
  203. Akbar Ali says:
    @Iris

    Iris wrote, “جحاد – الجهاد الاكبر – Jihad – Al Jihad Al Akbar:

    “Jihad” refers to internal as well as external efforts to be a good Muslim or believer, as well as working to inform people about the faith of Islam.”

    Duh, you must be from Pakistan, try to quote an Arab with Arabic copy and paste and then to a Shia Muslim.

    It is not called, “Al Jihad Al Akbar” but rather, “Jihad al-Nafs”. Shia don’t have just five Pillars (Principles) of Islam, like Sunni. To a Shia, Salah (Daily Prayer) is not a Pillar (Principle) of Islam. It is a Patrice of Islam. Shia have five Principle (Pillars) of Islam, which are different from Sunni and the Shia have ten Practices of Islam, the sixth Practice being “Jihad al-Nafs” which means, “Struggle against Oneself”.

    From 1st Caliph abu Bakr onward, they have changed the meaning of Jihad. They have made it a practice to spread Islam with sword under the disguise of Jihad, to fill their coffers. I have written above that the third Caliph Osman, was murdered by his own Islamic Military, because they were tired of all those war, being underpaid and treated like ragtags. Whereas, Osman built palaces for him and his kin. They murdered him, and didn’t allow his body to be buried for several days. This is a historical fact. I asked you to prove me wrong, in this regard?

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Iris
  204. Iris says:
    @anonymous

    Thanks for the courteous and interesting reply.

    Zionist control over the UK is indeed very subtle in comparison with France, a nation and country of similar importance, with as ancient a history.
    There may be many reasons for that; I am no sociologist, so I will quote two obvious ones:

    -1- Higher Tolerance: The UK recognises cultural/religious/ethnical differences, France does not, because the cement of modern France, after the 1789 Revolution, was secularism (Laicite). As a consequence, British society is much more tolerant of communities. Jewish communities are never abused, so there is less excuses to abuse the communities that organised Zionist organisations are set to undermine, Catholics and Muslims.

    The stigmatisation is hence more subtle.For instance, every time a long-deceased Catholic priest or a country-bumpkin Pakistani taxi driver is found to have committed any form of sexual abuse, the story is blown out of proportion in a manner to vilify not just the criminal individual, but the entire religion he belongs to.

    2- Weight of History: As you know, due to poor military preparation, France was occupied by Germany during WW2. The subdued French administration had to participate in Nazi transfers of population to concentration camps. This is being held to the day as a major historic debt of the French nation towards the Jewish community, which active Zionist members exert an open a brazen control over France’s public life.

    The French equivalent of AIPAC exists: it is called the CRIF, and no French minister, PM or President would ever dare missing its annual gala.

    Finally, with all due respect, Bernard-Henry Levy (BHL) may totally lack of any public respect, but he is a nevertheless a dangerous individual who represents most powerful Zionist interests.
    - It was revealed that he secretly organised the Libyan “revolution” with Libyan defectors as early as Oct 2010 in Paris’ Hotel Concorde, a few months before the alleged Benghazi massacre which triggered the bombing of Libya under UN resolution 1973.
    - He admitted himself having initiated the recognition of the “Libyan revolutionary council” of wahabi terrorists without even consulting French president Sarkozy (but certainly with the agreement of Netanyahu).

    https://www.nouvelobs.com/rue89/rue89-monde/20120407.RUE9095/libye-quand-bhl-engageait-la-france-sans-l-aval-de-sarkozy.html

    • Replies: @anonymous
  205. Akbar Ali says:
    @anonymous

    anonymous[253] wrote, “This seems to me, at best , unconvincing. Unless one considers that there is just only one religion -Judaism- and that Christianity and Islam are a “by product “ of Judaism.”

    Go back further in time before Judaism. If there is One God (Creator), then He/She/It must have sent the same religion to each and every mankind and generation. Islam (SLM – without vowels) is a generic term, and it is a verb, which means, “to submit”. To submit to the “Will of God”, whether willing and then it becomes Salam (SLM – without vowels), meaning our will being in Peace with the Will of God, or unwilling to submit to the Will of God.

    Islam the command “to submit” is called a verbal noun, meaning it has the potential to become noun. By putting a letter “m” in front of Islam, makes it M’slim (Muslim), meaning “one who submits”.

    A excellent book to read regarding thugs hijacking the religion throughout the history is called, “Children of Alley”, by Naguib Mahfouz an Egyptian writer who won the 1988 Nobel Prize for Literature. He was murdered by fellow Egyptian for blasphemy.

    The Shia believe that God has no body, form, shape or so forth. He is the Creator of everything, including Time and Space, emotions and so forth. Thus, a Creator cannot be creation and the Creator is not bound by his/her creation.

    Thus, everywhere for God is “Now”. Quran teaches us that God created Universes in six periods, this is for us mortals who understand time. And, that God willed the Universes, “To be!”. And, “it is”. No time is involved.

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Iris
  206. Akbar Ali says:
    @anonymous

    anonymous[253] wrote, “Thank you for your kind words about my post and for your thoughtful reply and the links. Unfortunately I couldn’t open them. Something to do with my browser.”

    It is very important for our discussion that you open the links and read on it. One link is to Huffington USA, and another one is to Huffington UK. Both common links.

    Akbar Ali

  207. Iris says:
    @Akbar Ali

    I know Arabic fluently , so I have done some Islam studies in the original language it developed into. It is very easy to understand that you know neither Arabic, nor Islam, because you have no grasp of very basic concepts.

    You don’t know what “internal jihad” is , while it is a basic concept of Islam, just like fighting the seven deadly sins is basic to Catholic religion. You are no muslim.

    Here is how “Hasbara” is written in Arabic: حسبرى

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  208. Iris says:
    @RobinG

    Thank you Robin. As a side remark, I much like reading your comments.

  209. Iris says:
    @Akbar Ali

    “Naguib Mahfouz an Egyptian writer who won the 1988 Nobel Prize for Literature. He was murdered by fellow Egyptian for blasphemy.”

    Wrong again. Naguib Mahfouz was stabbed by an extremist in 1994, but he died of old age, at almost 95 in 2006. You know as little of Arabic culture as you know of Islam.

  210. Akbar Ali says:
    @anonymous

    anonymous[253], “I would rather take the opportunity to ask you a question. Let’s then go back to the central theme of Quran :“Man is an Oppressor.”

    You agree that isn’t true for most Muslims, but would you say that there is an exception, and the exception is the Shiites ?”

    NO! I don’t agree that it isn’t true for most Muslims, and it is exception to the Shai that “Man is an Oppressor.”. It is the Central Theme for all Muslims and let us take 5 or 6 verses of Quran, regarding creation of Adam and Eve. I will post the translation of Quran called, “Sahih International” which is a Wahhabi translation and it is translated based on their teaching of Islam.

    Sahih International 2:30 And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, “Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority.” They said, “Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?” Allah said, “Indeed, I know that which you do not know.”

    1. Successive authority.
    2. God’s intention to put Adam on Earth.

    To Sunni it is predestination. To Shia it is Freewill, but limited Freewill. In the above verse, God intends to put Adam on Earth, thus this act of God is not Freewill for Adam. Also, successive authority to Shia means, chosen by God. To Sunni, due to predestination, it means anyone who claims himself to be Caliph, by whatever means, like ISIS.

    Now how does the Angels know that, “They said, “Will You place upon it one who causes incitement therein and sheds blood,…”? Also, the Arabic word is “Fassad” which means, “Incitement” and not “Corruption”

    The Shia say the Angels know from past experience. Each generation of Adam and Eve lasts for about 20,000 to 50,000 years. Before, our Adam and Eve, there were 60,000 or more generations of Adam and Eve. Multiply 60,000 x 50,000….

    Sahih International 2:35 “And We said, “O Adam, dwell, you and your wife, in Paradise and eat therefrom in [ease and] abundance from wherever you will. But do not approach this tree, lest you be among the wrongdoers.””

    The Arabic word in the above verse is “Dhalimin” which means “Oppressor” and not “Wrongdoers”. The Arabic Quran and those Muslims who know Arabic, exactly know what the word, “Dhalimin” means, “Oppressor” and it ties to above verse 2:30, the one who causes “Incitement”.

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @anonymous
  211. Akbar Ali says:
    @Iris

    Iris wrote, “You don’t know what “internal jihad” is , while it is a basic concept of Islam,”

    It is called, “Jihad al-Nafs” which means “Struggle against Oneself”.

    Struggle against the Self (jihad al-nafs):

    https://www.al-islam.org/nutshell/merits_soul/2.htm

    It is the sixth Practice of Shia Islam. Now show me that it is part of Sunni Pillars of Islam.

    Don’t keep dodging the subject:
    1. Prove to me that Islam was not spread by sword?
    2. Prove to me that third Caliph Osman wasn’t murder by his own Islamic Military?
    3. Prove to me the reason for the murder of Osman?
    4. Prove to me that his body was not allowed to be buried for several days?

    Below is Tariq Ramadhan a Sunni, who is grandson of Hassan Bana. Do you know who Hassan Bana is?

    He is talking in this video about Jihad al-Nafs on a Shia TV called, Press TV: Islamic Awakening – Practicing Jihad al-Nafs during Ramadan

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
    , @Iris
  212. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    Believe me. Zionists don’t do subtlety. Their control of UK,( and France, USA, Germany and Russia), is, as you said, total.

    UK also has its AIPAC. It’s called Conservative Friends of Israel (CFI) and Labour Friends of Israel (LFI) etc… I’m sure there is also a very powerful AIPAC in Germany …

    Most people in the western world ignore that their politicians are puppets serving their zionist masters because most people in France, UK, USA etc…are “happy” and very busy.

    The Zionists know that if you give people “bread and circuses”, you can do everything…Maybe you can call that subtlety.

    As I said, BHL is just a clown. Like Obama, Trump, Sarkozy, Manuel Valls, Macron, Theresa May etc…

    If you want to know what’s going on pay attention to the director of the circus not to the clowns.
    Clowns are there to distract the proles.

    Iranians pay attention to what Netanyahu is doing or wants to do. I doubt they pay attention to the clown in chief.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/the-truth-about-the-uks-powerful-jewish-lobbies-9702262.html

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  213. Akbar Ali says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Conclusion:

    Imam Ali (a) said: “One who struggles against himself so as to obey God, in the eyes of God, his station is that of a pious martyr.” [Al-Amidi, Ghurar ul Hikam wa Durar ul Kalim, hadith # 3546]

    If you watch the above video, Tariq Ramadhan calls it, “Jihad al-Nafs”.

  214. Iris says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Thanks for the short but very rich reply, which raises so many critical points.

    1- Zionist control over Britain has its roots in a prominent financial industry which occupies an unparalleled position in UK’s economy today.

    https://www.thecityuk.com/research/key-facts-about-the-uk-as-an-international-financial-centre-2017/

    Such control dates back centuries. (Nathan Rothschild made a fortune in bonds speculating on the outcome of the Battle of Waterloo (1815) and was already in a position to influence Britain’s policies back then).
    Britain produced the Balfour declaration, not the US.
    British muslims are nobodies in the power equation, just convenient decoys.

    2- Immigration from poorer countries is promoted to boost a service industry (80% of GDP) which mainly benefits the wealthy minority. “Cultural enrichment” programmes and other social engineering agendas are deliberately designed to dissolve shared identities that would underpin collective political and economic claims. Social engineering further strentghens Israel’s position, which thrives in “Divide and rule”.

    3- British people are not the same as the British oligarchy. The former are civilised and endearing, the later is an arrogant imperialist cast which knows no limits and deserves to disappear. I don’t think the British people will commit ethnic suicide, they have too strong a national identity. As a people, they will adapt to the coming multipolar world and probably be just fine. With regards.

  215. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Akbar Ali

    I was just trying to tell you that if the central theme for all Muslims is that “Man is an Oppressor”, that doesn’t seem to have any impact in the real life of millions of Muslims around the world.

    They – the Muslims- , like the western consumers (known also as citizens) ,seem to accept their oppressors and doing almost nothing to get rid of the rulers who forgot “their” Quran.

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  216. @anonymous

    Believe me. Zionists don’t do subtlety. Their control of UK,( and France, USA, Germany and Russia)

    Zionists do not control Russia. There is no necessity to project. The first and emphatic killer of this argument is Syria and massive change in Israel’s geopolitical position. Google who controls today the separation line on Golan Heights. Hell, the whole Syrian affair is one huge “debunker” of this whole false narrative of Zionist controlling Russia. I may go even further and state that it is increasingly the other way around. I guess BiBi going to Moscow and Sochi as if going to everyday work speaks some volume.

    • Agree: renfro
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  217. Iris says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Every time you try to move the goal post, Hasbara Ali, you dig yourself deeper.

    Don’t you know that Tariq Ramadan is in the news for the wrong reasons?

    After having lectured the public with his friendly views of stoning of adulterous women, this pompous jackass has been put in jail under accusations of rape. He has actually just admitted to an adulterous relationship to save his bacon.

    His reputation is in the gutter where he belongs. This is only poetic justice for his support to the Anglo-Zionist-Wahabi rape of Libya.

    So much for your “knowledge” of Islamic affairs, Hasbara Ali.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  218. @Anonymous

    ‘When you are openly anti-facist, don’t be surprised if you’re called anti-fa.’

    That touches on what is kind of a semantic inconsistency.

    I most certain am not an ‘anti-fa.’ The ‘anti-fas’ are, of course, quintessential fascists.

    What else would you call people who both preach and practice using violence against those they disagree with? Those clowns could be squadristi in post-WW1 Italy or Stormtroopers in 1931 Berlin. They’d fit right in.

  219. geokat62 says:

    It appears that McNasty is still carrying water for his paymasters, even from beyond the grave.

    Excerpts from John McCain’s parting shot is a warning about the ‘alt-right’:

    McCain reserved two paragraphs in his posthumous farewell for a warning about the dangers of hypernationalism, alluding to the rise of the “alt-right,” the white supremacists whom he reviled. And he invoked a slogan that predates the Nazis, but that was made popular by them: blood and soil.

    And in an effort to hammer the point home, the article quotes the ADL of B’nai B’rith’s Jonathan Greenblatt:

    “’Blood and Soil’ is a direct reference to the right-wing nationalist slogan chanted during the racist and anti-Semitic protests in Charlottesville last year – one that, along with ‘Jews will not replace us,’ has in some respects come to symbolize the modern face of racism and hatred in America.

    In referencing this slogan, I believe Senator McCain is exhorting all of us to rise above the hatreds that have divided us in recent year. He is reminding us – as Americans and as human beings – that we are bound together by the highest ideals of liberty and equality, and that those ideals cannot be undermined by claims to racial or religious superiority. It is an important message, one should be heard as a clarion call at the highest levels of our government.”

    https://www.jta.org/2018/08/28/news-opinion/john-mccains-parting-shot-warning-alt-right

    If these principles are so important, I wonder why Greenblatt doesn’t think they should be heard at the highest levels of the Israeli government?

  220. geokat62 says:

    https://orientxxi.info/magazine/how-israel-spies-on-us-citizens,2598

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  221. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    “He has actually just admitted to an adulterous relationship “…

    So that is the reason why he’s in prison ? If that is the case, then I doubt you have enough space in the french prisons to send people who can be forced – as Tariq Ramadam was – to admit to an” adulterous relationship.”

    Have you heard about presumption of innocence?

    If you had, you would know that the most important principle in all civilized society was denied to TR. Maybe in France presumption of innocence doesn’t exist.

    The man was accused, judged and condemned. The media , of course, made that possible and corrupt judges did the rest.

    It’s an example of Judicial lynching. And that was very easy to do in France, because France hasn’t an independent judiciary. No country has.

    Being accused of rape (or any other crime), means only that…Being accused….It doesn’t mean you’re guilty.

    In case of TR, I’m sure that the guy isn’t guilty because the women accusing him are proven liars.

    One of the woman that was allegedly raped by TR doesn’t know when and where she was raped.
    She has already changed her story 3 times.

    In France several “important” people having been accused of rape.

    Can you give me an example of one that is in prison waiting for his trial ? Luc Besson is in prison ?

    I don’t admire TR and have no respect for the man. He’s a coward. Never had the courage to denounce the crimes being committed against the Muslims.

    As you said, he did support the Anglo-Zionist-Wahabi rape of Libya. And I believe Tony Blair is his friend…or was.

    But one can’t become a professor at oxford if one is courageous..by courageous I mean, being someone with moral principles.

    But that fact – Tariq Ramadan is a fraud – shouldn’t impede us understanding that TR’s enemies (like Julian Assange’s enemies) used the judicial system to destroy him and his family.

  222. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:

    “Zionists do not control Russia. There is no necessity to project. The first and emphatic killer of this argument is Syria….”

    It’s a question of faith, isn’t it ? You, like most people, are a believer. You want to believe that Russia is in the right side of History and that Czar Putin is a good guy, in spite of the fact that one of his best friend -the King of Israel- is a well known war criminal.

    Those who get their diet from the MSM believe that Russia is the new enemy and Putin is the new Hitler.

    I don’t know what’s going on in Syria and allow me to suggest that I doubt that you or anyone else here knows.

    Apparently, Russia saved Syria. But if it is true that Russia is really against Israel’s objectives in Syria why then let the mafia state to attack Syria once a week ?

    Because Israel is destroying the terrorist’s infrastructures (Hezbollah) ?

    You see, if Russia was really an independent country, Russia would consider Hezbollah as legitimate organization fighting for the Independence of the Lebanon and against terrorists in Syria.

    Apparently Russia is fighting against terrorism in Syria. Should we real believe that Russia ignores that Israel is the greatest terrorist state in the world ? That Russia ignores that most terrorist groups in Syria are there because Israel/Saudi Arabia sent them there ? That some terrorists are even treated in hospitals in Israel ?

    I could go on to “prove” that Russia isn’t an independent country.

    But as I said, it’s a question of faith. You will dismiss my questions and go on believing, in spite of strong evidence that Russia isn’t controlled by the same force that controls USA, France, UK, etc…

    IMHO Syria is being used as training centre for MIC…American and Russian MIC.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Andrei Martyanov
  223. Talha says:
    @anonymous

    Solid points, both posts.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  224. Akbar Ali says:
    @anonymous

    anonymous[253] wrote, “I was just trying to tell you that if the central theme for all Muslims is that “Man is an Oppressor”, that doesn’t seem to have any impact in the real life of millions of Muslims around the world.

    They – the Muslims- , like the western consumers (known also as citizens) ,seem to accept their oppressors and doing almost nothing to get rid of the rulers who forgot “their” Quran.”

    Greetings anonymous[253] ,

    Now I understand why you are saying even though it is in the Quran, “Man is an Oppressor” which is the faith of all Muslims, but only Shia practice it.

    In the above verse 2:30, the Arabic word used for “successive authority” is “Caliph”. According to Shia, the prophet before his demise, many times left Ali to be his successive authority. The Sunni say, he didn’t leave a successive authority, but when the Sunni are pressed from history than they agree that Prophet did leave Ali as his successor and past is past.

    As I have said that Islam was hijacked on the onset, while the body of the Prophet was still warm and not buried yet. This was accomplished by changing the religion from Freewill to be Predestined. And, the rest of the religion was significantly changed too.

    While preparing the body of the Prophet for burial, both his close companions and father-in-laws, abu Bakr and Omar suddenly left. Ali and his sons kept on preparing the body. They left for another town about 50km away, in those days a very long distance. Eight people met there and chose abu Bakr the first Caliph. When they returned back at night, the Prophet was buried by Ali and his companions. They (abu Bakr and Omar) insisted Prophet was to be dug out and reburied as they missed the burial.

    The same night abu Bakr spent his night in the Prophet’s room. Next day, he led the Prayers, and claimed that he was appointed by the Will of God, as everything is Predestined. Lots of people revolted, but they are put down by the Military, most were killed, the remaining were hanged, because they refused the “Will of God”.

    The Governor of Yemen collected “Zakat” the charity tax but he refused to give this tax to abu Bakr whom he considered to be not the successor of the Prophet.

    1. abu Bakr sent an army to Yemen calling the complete Yemen as Apostate. During the Prophet’s time, anyone can leave the fold, but here a new term used one cannot leave Islam.
    2. If one doesn’t pray, fast, pay charity is out of fold and he/she should be killed.
    3. Yemen was subsided by the huge Islamic Military, and the Muslims there were taken as slaves against the Islamic tenets.
    4. The Governor wife was raped by the Commander of the Military, along with other women who were raped by Military.

    All Muslims believe in Quran and Sunnah of Mohammad, both being equal. abu Bakr gave order to burn the Sunnah. This Sunnah was cooked, recooked and cooked again and was collected 200 years later by a man called, Bukhari. He was blind, not an Arab and from Bukhara. If rich pedophile and/or Caliph wanted to marry a six years old, cook the Sunnah, that Aisha daughter of abu Bakr said that the Prophet married her when she was six years old. If the Caliph wanted to torture anyone, cook a Sunnah that Prophet used to torture by putting hot iron in the prisoners’ eyes. You catch my drift.

    So how a Caliph is chosen by the “Will of Allah”
    1. Seven people chose abu Bakr as first Caliph.
    2. abu Bakr willed it to Omar to be second Caliph.
    3a. Omar willed a committee of 7 people, which induced 4 Omayyad and nominated Osman a Omayyad and Ali to be chosen by the Committee. Questions was put forward, “Would you rule by Sunnah of Prophet only” OR “Sunnah of Prophet subsequently corrected by the first two Caliph”. Ali refused to govern by the Sunnah of first two Caliph.
    3b. Osman was made third Caliph. He collected the Quran in non-serial order and in old Arabic. He burned rest of the Quran. He put his kin as governors, such as Muawiya as Governor of Syria. Osman was murder by his own troops for being corrupt and his body was not allowed for burial for several days.
    4. The masses chose Ali as the next Caliph as the fourth Caliph. Ali being the Caliph tried to remove Muawiya as Governor of Syria, who refused and had Ali murdered.
    5. Muawiya become fifth Caliph by force as per Allah’s Will.
    6. He chose his son Zayid by will to be the sixth Caliph, therein creating the Omayyad Caliphate as dynasty. Yazid butchered almost all the male children of Ali, the grandchildren of the Prophet. The Prophet’s generation is from Ali and his daughter Fatima, such as Sayyid Hassan Nasrallah.

    In those 60 years of the Prophets’ demise there were lots of killing, civil wars and so forth, but according to Sunni they were All Good Men. Go figure!

    The liver eater bastards ISIS are Godsend for Muslims and Islam, showing the ugly face of Islam.

    The Caliphate of ISIS was by force, a slap in the face of Islam.

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
    , @anonymous
  225. Allan says:
    @Colin Wright

    I wouldn’t be so certain that Judaism lacks “the universalist pretensions of Christianity and Islam”. It surely lacks the hints of egalitatianism found in those religions, but something interesting has been afoot in Judaism. And I’m not referring only to the great work of division and destruction in the unjewish countries of both Europe and the Middle East since at least 1914.

    Seven Noahide Laws: https://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/noahide.html

    Insinuating the Seven Laws: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah#Chabad_movement

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  226. @anonymous

    It’s a question of faith, isn’t it ?

    No, it is a question of knowledge. I didn’t read the rest of your post.

    P.S. In the West knowledge and information are often conflated–this is wrong. They are two different animals. But West in general has huge issues with causality.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  227. Akbar Ali says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Greetings anonymous[253],

    Nahjul Balagha “The Peak of Eloquence” by Ali the forth Caliph is considered by all Muslims as second only to Quran.

    [MORE]

    The Sermon of ash-Shiqshiqiyah (The Roar of a Camel)

    Beware! By Allah, the son of Abu Quhafah (Abu Bakr) dressed himself with it (the caliphate) and he certainly knew that my position in relation to it was the same as the position of the axis in relation to the hand-mill. The flood water flows down from me and the bird cannot fly upto me. I put a curtain against the caliphate and kept myself detached from it.

    Then I began to think whether I should assault or endure calmly the blinding darkness of tribulations wherein the grown up are made feeble and the young grow old and the true believer acts under strain till he meets Allah (on his death).

    I found that endurance thereon was wiser. So I adopted patience although there was pricking in the eye and suffocation (of mortification) in the throat. I watched the plundering of my inheritance till the first one went his way but handed over the Caliphate to Ibn al-Khattab (Omar) after himself.

    My days are now passed on the camel’s back (in difficulty) while there were days (of ease) when I enjoyed the company of Jabir’s brother Hayyan.

    It is strange that during his lifetime he wished to be released from the caliphate but he confirmed it for the other one after his death. No doubt these two shared its udders strictly among themselves. This one put the Caliphate in a tough enclosure where the utterance was haughty and the touch was rough. Mistakes were in plenty and so also the excuses therefore. One in contact with it was like the rider of an unruly camel. If he pulled up its rein the very nostril would be slit, but if he let it loose he would be thrown. Consequently, by Allah people got involved in recklessness, wickedness, unsteadiness and deviation.

    Nevertheless, I remained patient despite length of period and stiffness of trial, till when he went his way (of death) he put the matter (of Caliphate) in a group and regarded me to be one of them. But good Heavens! What had I to do with this “consultation”? Where was any doubt about me with regard to the first of them that I was now considered akin to these ones? But I remained low when they were low and flew high when they flew high.

    One of them turned against me because of his hatred and the other got inclined the other way due to his in-law relationship and this thing and that thing, till the third man of these people stood up with heaving breasts between his dung and fodder. With him his children of his grand-father, (Omayyad) also stood up swallowing up Allah’s wealth like a camel devouring the foliage of spring, till his rope broke down, his actions finished him and his gluttony brought him down prostrate.

    At that moment, nothing took me by surprise, but the crowd of people rushing to me. It advanced towards me from every side like the mane of the hyena so much so that Hasan and Husayn were getting crushed and both the ends of my shoulder garment were torn. They collected around me like a herd of sheep and goats. When I took up the reins of government one party broke away and another turned disobedient while the rest began acting wrongfully as if they had not heard the word of Allah saying:

    That abode in the hereafter, We assign it for those who intend not to exult themselves in the earth, nor (to make) mischief (therein); and the end is (best) for the pious ones. (Qur’an, 28:83)

    Yes, by Allah, they had heard it and understood it but the world appeared glittering in their eyes and its embellishments seduced them. Behold, by Him who split the grain (to grow) and created living beings, if people had not come to me and supporters had not exhausted the argument and if there had been no pledge of Allah with the learned to the effect that they should not acquiesce in the gluttony of the oppressor and the hunger of the oppressed I would have cast the rope of Caliphate on its own shoulders, and would have given the last one the same treatment as to the first one. Then you would have seen that in my view this world of yours is no better than the sneezing of a goat.

    (It is said that when Imam Ali reached here in his sermon a man of Iraq stood up and handed him over a writing. Imam Ali began looking at it, when Ibn ‘Abbas said, “O’ Amir al-mu’minin, I wish you resumed your Sermon from where you broke it.” Thereupon he replied, “O’ Ibn ‘Abbas it was like the foam of a Camel which gushed out but subsided.” Ibn ‘Abbas says that he never grieved over any utterance as he did over this one because Amir al-mu’minin could not finish it as he wished to.)

    Basically, the note handed to Imam Ali was a blank paper.

    Akbar Ali

  228. Apparently, & with a standard-bearer, a substantial percentage of Brits are rising against centuries of rule by international Jewry. Please refer to the mighty blowhard reaction below?

    http://ejpress.org/british-jewish-leader-warns-that-jeremy-corbyn-has-declared-war-on-the-jews/

    Fyi, & as many here at U.R. know, America lost its Jeremy Corbyn at Dealey Plaza, November 22, 1963.

  229. Akbar Ali says:
    @Allan

    Allan wrote, “I wouldn’t be so certain that Judaism lacks “the universalist pretensions of Christianity and Islam”.”

    I fully concur with you, as Judaism is a true religion by the God of Worlds……

    • Replies: @Allan
  230. @LondonBob

    Last time you posted from Moscow. Very much safer than Londonistan, as Mr Karlin has mentioned. I get lots of Londoners in my neck of the woods. To a man or woman, they say they would never return to live in London. One neighbour even brought her 85 year old mother up with her. Even the prospect of Scottish Independence doesn’t seem to deter them.
    I don’t think it weird to want to leave a hostile, deteriorating environment, such as much of London. In America, they call it White Flight. The British MSM avoid talking about it. But in the end it cannot be ignored.

  231. @Andrei Martyanov

    Andrei Martyanov wrote: “Hell, the whole Syrian affair is one huge “debunker” of this whole false narrative of Zionist controlling Russia.
    Hi Andrei,
    … Given Haaretz article linked below, your sentence above is supported by observable evidence, Russian sailors practicing at sea & jet fighter pilots at practice in the air.

    https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/25-ships-30-jets-russia-to-hold-war-games-off-syria-as-idlib-tensions-rise-1.6431949

    … Nonetheless, as you’re aware, there is occasional media outpour of “Atlanticist Integrationists” influence upon the Putin government, which suggests a Zionist-Rus agenda is lurking, sits on the Kremlim “bench.”
    … Fyi, I dare to mention that Paul Craig Roberts was the first American to plain spokenly address the existence of “Atlanticist Integrationists,” and from his desk top P.C., he warned President Putin about the creepy crawl-hazard.
    … Thank you, Andrei!

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  232. Allan says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Judaism is a true religion? Please do tell how it could be so.

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  233. geokat62 says:

    Another example of how some see the dire warning signs ahead and are becoming increasingly worried.

    Excerpts from Max Boot’s latest article, The West may be sleepwalking into another catastrophe:

    The growth of nationalism and tribalism is evident not just among minorities but also, even more menacingly, among majority groups. President Trump is tapping into white nationalism in the United States, Vladimir Putin into Russian nationalism, Viktor Orban into Hungarian nationalism, Recep Tayyip Erdogan into Turkish nationalism, Xi Jinping into Chinese nationalism, and so on. Their tried-and-true technique is to play up fear of “the other” — whether it is Mexicans, Muslims, Kurds, Gulenists, international bankers, the CIA or other boogeymen…

    Of course, not everyone has benefited equally from these trends… But it is striking the extent to which so much nationalist agitation is taking place among Westerners who have never had it so good — whether they know it or not.

    We now have leaders, such as Trump and the Brexiteers in Britain, who are endangering the hard-won achievements of the post-1945 era by embracing nationalism and calling into question international institutions such as the European Union, the World Trade Organization and NATO. For many politicians, this is a cynical exercise: They are manufacturing grievances to justify their lust for power. But why are so many ordinary people willing to go along?…

    Two world wars later, Europeans and Americans longed for nothing more than the return of the “lazy peacetime life.” But with the passing of the Greatest Generation and even the Silent Generation (those, like John McCain, born between 1925 and 1945), we seem to have forgotten how precious peace and prosperity can be — and how hard to maintain. I fear the West may be sleepwalking into another catastrophe out of sheer boredom as much as anything else.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/the-west-may-be-sleepwalking-into-another-catastrophe/2018/08/29/9f540ad2-abbc-11e8-a8d7-0f63ab8b1370_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.533c2fc72894

    How ironic that a neocon would sing the praises of peace as he calls upon the mighty US military to destroy the Jewish state’s enemies.

    Kind of makes one feel he thinks we’re all simply Dumb Goyim.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  234. @geokat62

    Hi geo!
    Interesting how Alain Fresh was availed to a “secret screening’ of the “suppressed” Al-Jazeera documentary, re; the Jewish lobby’s awesome impact upon American government’s fate.
    … Of course, geo, would like to know who is “Alain Gresh” and how such an explosive “secret screening” came about?
    … Nonetheless, you are aware how former U.K. Chief Rabbi Sachs is trying hard to crucify Jeremy Corbyn. If not, you can go to Stuart Littlewood’s recent article appearing on Veterans Today. Uh, “Crucify him!” Where did I hear that before?
    … Meanwhile, below is my satire involving the Mighty Rabbi Lord Sachs’ mission to take down a world renowned man-’o-science, one who battled both A.L.S. and Israeli hypocrisy, Stephen Hawking.

    https://literaryyard.com/2017/02/22/the-rabbi-lord-who-wants-hawkings-down-and-out-in-orwells-london/

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
    , @geokat62
  235. @ChuckOrloski

    Nonetheless, as you’re aware, there is occasional media outpour of “Atlanticist Integrationists” influence upon the Putin government

    It is not exactly Putin’s government–it is a compromise technical government for now. Unless one wants to start repetition of 1937, the process of removal of the so called Atlantic integrationists will take some time. Yes, they try to influence or frame Putin’s team from time to time but I think former Director of FSB, President-PM-and then again President knows what he needs to know about those integrationists.

    your sentence above is supported by observable evidence

    This the main method of good analysis–to be supported by empirical evidence.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  236. @geokat62

    Kind of makes one feel he thinks we’re all simply Dumb Goyim.

    Boot is imbecile but what does it say about American “talking class” then, if such a specimen has a tribune? Of course he knows that he is a piece of trash (at least he can feel it) and that is why he thinks that American Goyim are morons. Some of them surely are.

  237. Akbar Ali says:
    @Allan

    Allan wrote, “Judaism is a true religion? Please do tell how it could be so.”

    Greetings Allan,

    Both Judaism and Christianity are considered the Family of Book. One God, One Book. Please see my above comment #212. In Islam, God doesn’t have a name, if He did, then He will become our property, rather than we being His Property. The Creator is one for all mankind, therefore He/She/It sent the same religion on all mankind.

    al-ilah (allah) is two word, the “al” being a definite article “the” and “ilah” simply means, God. Now try to fit three vowels of Semitic languages, to the five vowels of English language. The Jews write “eloh” in English and Muslims write “ilah” in English. eloh and ilah can be made into plural such as elohim in Hebrew, but al-ilah (allah) cannot be made into plural. BTW, ilah (eloh) is feminine noun. Go figure!

    the Book with the truth [the Quran], confirming what was before it, and [before He sent down the Quran] He sent down the Torah of Moses and the Gospel of Jesus… as a guidance for the people.

    In Quran it also tells us that both Jews and Christians worship God (allah) all night long..

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Allan
  238. Truth says:

    Hitler never did to anyone what the Jews do to mankind, as well as those in Gaza.

  239. Akbar Ali says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    ChuckOrloski wrote, “Of course, geo, would like to know who is “Alain Gresh” and how such an explosive “secret screening” came about?”

    Salam brother Chuck,

    Great men are gathered in cahoots to defeat The Great Evil. Brother, keep your chin up as The Great Evil will be defeated soon, InshaAllah (God Willing).

    Best regards,

    Akbar Ali

  240. @Andrei Martyanov

    With knowledge beyond mine, Andrei Martyanov considered Atlanticist Integrationists influence in Russia & compellingly wrote: “It is not exactly Putin’s government–it is a compromise technical government for now.”
    Hello Andrei,
    … As you’re likely aware, a popular (dissident) expression used here in the USA to describe the real ruling power is “The Deep State.”
    … Consequently, being anti-Zio Deep State, I reflect & come to an understanding that what American citizens get is limited (respectable?) governance typified by a meaningful but cunning “Shallow State.”
    … One example is how deified “hero,” Zenator John McCain, opposed torturing Islamic prisoners on principle and favored barbaric bombing of Iran and instituting lawless regime change.
    … So at present, Andrei, am I correct to assume Russian President Putin is engaged in a pitched ideological battle designed to defeat the “so-called Atlantic Integrationists”?
    … Suppose it’s logical to inquire, ‘Who then represents Russia’s Deep State?’ I for one wish Putin’ government is never reduced to “Shallow State” subservience, like the political case on display here in ZUSA.
    … Thank you very much, Andrei!

  241. geokat62 says:

    Best response to MB’s tweet:

  242. geokat62 says:

    More never-before-seen footage of censored Al Jezeera investigation into Israel Lobby – USA:

    https://www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-news/.premium-parts-of-censored-al-jazeera-documentary-on-pro-israeli-lobby-leaked-1.6432835?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  243. geokat62 says:

    While The Lobby continually feeds The Dumb Goyim a steady diet of Political Correctness pablum, Nut’nYahoo is speaking to his base in the language of Darwin:

    But, don’t worry, The Lobby is up to the challenge of glossing over these minor inconsistencies.

    • Agree: Iris
  244. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Talha

    Thanks, Talha.

  245. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Hi Ali,

    Good sum up. Thanks.

  246. Akbar Ali says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    ChuckOrloski wrote, “One example is how deified “hero,” Zenator John McCain, opposed torturing Islamic prisoners on principle and favored barbaric bombing of Iran and instituting lawless regime change.”

    Salam Chuck,

    Right now at this very minute, two funerals are taking place on CNN. The funeral of Great Aretha Franklin. Guest of honor is one of The Evil on Earth. Bubba was literally drooling when Ariana Grande sang, “Natural Woman”. It seems like Jessie Jackson didn’t like it and told him so. After that they both had the worst body language for a long time. You must watch it, even though I know you feelings towards CNN.

    Another funeral of Senator of Arizona. One has to empower Evil, to fight Evil with. The ISIS Evil was empowered, and today Iran is at the doorsteps of The Greatest Evil. No bombing of Iran and no regime change, just meaningless words. As our President says, what you watch, read, hear and see is mostly fake. Even though, our President have pulled out JPOA and moved the Embassy to Jerusalem, but still Netanyahu keeps on going to visit Putin with his tail between his legs, scratching his head with confusion. But couple of days ago, Netanyahu finally burned his bridges with Putin.

    ChuckOrloski wrote, “Suppose it’s logical to inquire, ‘Who then represents Russia’s Deep State?”

    Saker like to push Good Cop / Bad Cop theory, for Putin and Medvedev receptively. According to Saker, Putin would have not voted with USA in Security Council regarding Libya, according to him, alas Medvedev was the President of Russia.

    To me Russia has been handsomely rewarded with Crimea given to Putin on a Silver Platter.

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
    , @Robjil
    , @Sean
  247. @ChuckOrloski

    … So at present, Andrei, am I correct to assume Russian President Putin is engaged in a pitched ideological battle designed to defeat the “so-called Atlantic Integrationists”?

    Not quite–those “integrationists” have been defeated already, even if for a simple reason that the only thing (or somebody) who stands between them and pitchforks of overwhelming majority of Russian people and, most importantly, Russia’s power block (Siloviki) is none other than Putin himself who, as I and many others stated not for once, pursues evolutionary development of Russia and, correctly, is not intent on stirring the pot. For him it is not just pragmatic position, it is ethical as well and in this I understand him. In the end, it is not necessary to kill people when you can squeeze their balls and make them do what you need. Khodorkovsky, as one example of many, didn’t get the message–look what happened to him. Same goes for Gusinsky and Brezovsky, before he was killed by MI-6, good riddance.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @I.M
  248. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    “It’s a question of faith, isn’t it ?”, was a rhetorical question.

    I’m glad you didn’t read the rest of my post. You couldn’t understand it.

    Only people w/o knowledge and w/o faith in the new zio Russian Czar can.

    Life is a paradox, isn’t it ? Again , a rhetorical question.

    No need to reply…to the rhetorical question or to my post.

    thanks

  249. @geokat62

    Hi geo,
    … Being a brotherly ally, & for better or worse, you will usually read & know what’s on my mind.
    … Am cautious about the (potential) public release of Al-Jazeera’s film that shall serve to demonstrate how Jewish lobbies pressure ZUS politicians to do Israel’s will. Uh, besides, what else is new “under the cloudy D.C. sun?”
    … Seems clear to me that we are living in times where Zionist Jew-lies are crumbling; for examples, Ron Unz’s amazing “Holocaust Denial” article, and even the flub dub crypto-Zionist Twins, InZitatus & FB, are tongue wrestling about how the three (3) WTC Towers managed to crumble as a result of heat caused by two (2) airplane crashes & pursuant jet fuel fire.
    … Appears very possible to me that Mossad/CIA hit team could have quickly ended release of the steaming hot Al-Jazeera documentary. Bang-bang, sarin gas “poof,” or defenestration? (In fact, geokat. I marvel at how Christopher Bollyn survived a goon-squad beating)
    … And those daring Arabic documentary producers likely do not present a difficult target-challenge, as does Hezbollah’s Nusrallah.
    … Consequently, I fear that international Jewry’s “crucifying” power is near peaked, and being unaccountable, they do not give a fuck now about what masses of dumb goyim either know or don’t know.
    … (Zigh) Just my theory, geo, and I trust you know that I know the Mossad’s openly signaled motto?
    … Be well & thank you.

    • Replies: @Iris
  250. Akbar Ali says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Report: Iran moves missiles to Iraq that can hit Tel Aviv

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5338568,00.html

    Iran launches anti-US-Israel front – from W. Iraq, with Tel Aviv in missile range, builds base facing Golan

    https://www.debka.com/iran-launches-anti-us-israel-front-from-w-iraq-with-tel-aviv-in-missile-range-builds-base-facing-golan/

    The Shia Crescent Power is Empowered from Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Iran and to the closure of Red Sea at Bab al-Mandeb by Yemen (Houtis). Rejoice!

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  251. @Andrei Martyanov

    Hello Andrei,
    … As you likely know, at present, the esteemed American former-Reagan Assistant Treasury Secretary, Paul Craig Roberts, persists to warn President Putin about traveling Atlanticist Integrationists’ ruinous path to power.
    … Trust you are more insightful on Russian politics than PCR and I do so wish Rus “pitchforks” are on stand-by.
    … Thanks!

  252. Akbar Ali says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Dear Dr. Philip Giraldi,

    I saw your article on ICH dated August 29, 2018, and was linked to, “This article was originally published by “AHT” dated August 27, 2018″

    Israeli Spying on Trump

    It is ironic that the Robert Mueller investigation into possible collusion between the Russian government and the Donald Trump campaign continues to turn up nothing while the evidence of Israeli interference in the U.S. political system continues to surface without any outrage being expressed by either the media or American politicians.

    The most recent revelation concerns a payment of $10,000 given to former Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos in an Israeli hotel room in July 2017. A self-described Israeli businessman named Charles Tawil provided the money at the meeting, which was set up after Tawil flew to the Greek island Mykonos, where he met Papadopoulos and invited him to come to Israel to discuss some possible business relating to an oil and gas project in the Aegean Sea. Papadopoulos had met Tawil through an Israeli “political strategist” David Ha’ivri, who is a hard-line Israeli settler with close ties to the government of Benjamin Netanyahu. Papadopoulos agree to do so, leaving his wife Simona in Greece.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50149.htm

    I wonder, if Dr. Philip Giraldi meant, “in July 2016″ rather than, “in July 2017″.

    Best regards,

    Akbar Ali

  253. @Akbar Ali

    2017 is correct – it was after Trump became president and the approach assumed that Papadopoulos still had high level access to the new Administration

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Talha
    , @Akbar Ali
  254. @Akbar Ali

    Great find, Akbar Ali! Mueller should be ashamed but that quality is unneeded when serving Israeli interests.
    Fyi, Jewish Corporate Media reported NATO is considering to name the new Brussels-based HQ, cost $1 billion, in honor of Zenator John McCain.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/29/politics/nato-considering-naming-building-for-john-mccain/index.html

    Thanks!

  255. Robjil says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Crimea was not given to Russia on a silver platter at all. Just today the head of the Donetsk republic was assassinated by the US/Israel/UK Zio trio. 100000 to 100000 (no one knows the real numbers) pro-Russian Ukrainian civilians have been killed by shelling by the US led neonazi Banderists since 2014. It has not been a picnic for Russia. Russia had no choice but to take Crimea. Otherwise the US would have had a huge naval base there to endlessly taunt Russia. The whole Banderist neonazi coup was all about taking Crimea. The US/Israel/UK Zio trio were caught in a mousetrap in Crimea. Crimea going back to Russia was the best thing to happen in the world since the Zio trio took over the world in 1913. The Zios are not going to always “win” for now on.

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  256. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    … Meanwhile, below is my satire involving the Mighty Rabbi Lord Sachs’ mission to take down a world renowned man-’o-science, one who battled both A.L.S. and Israeli hypocrisy, Stephen Hawking.

    Fun read, Chuck. My favourite line:

    (Blush) “Well, my Lord Rabbi, everyone in Brexit knows that I matriculated at St. Hughes College and not at some ‘Benny Hill’ Frankfurt School academy!” You know that, eh Rabbi”

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  257. Iris says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Apologies for interjecting.

    IMHO, the information posted by Geokat62 about the Al Jazeera censored documentary is likely genuine.

    Alain Gresh is a respected journalist, the former editor of “Le Monde Diplomatique”, France’s most prominent political review. He is of Jewish/ communist background, an intellectual with a positive bias for Israel, but also a commitment to the dialogue with Palestinians. His position on the massacres in Gaza is decent. He is credible.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  258. geokat62 says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    it was after Trump became president and the approach assumed that Papadopoulos still had high level access to the new Administration

    Correct me if I’m mistaken Phil, but is the phrase “the approach” spy lingo for the individual (in this case, the Israeli businessman named Charles Tawil) who approaches the mark?

  259. @Iris

    Hi Iris,
    … No need to apologize for “interjecting” because such is what is frequently done here, including me!
    … Thanks for the reassurance that Jewish Alain Gresh is a “respected journalist” who supports Israeli “dialogue” with Palestinians. (zzZigh)
    … It is “credible” to be aware that what you call “decent” western journalists can become servants for indecent CIA/Mossad trickery.
    … But thanks a lot for putting an educated patched-eye on this important cataract-matter, Iris!

    • Replies: @Iris
  260. @geokat62

    Hi geo,
    Aw shucks, thanks, your compliment made me blush. But as you know, lyin’ P.M. May and Lord Rabbi Sachs make doing satire easy.
    … Also, for refresher course purpose, I recommend watching the David Irving video (below), and where he discusses “history manipulation.”
    … I believe contemporary Zionist Jews are manipulators of history, including even BEFORE a big event happens.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  261. geokat62 says:

    Prof. Kevin MacDonald provides a simple explanation for the real reasons the (((globalists))) are panicking:

    • Replies: @geokat62
  262. geokat62 says:
    @geokat62

    … and how do globalists plan to avert this brewing crisis? Why, simply bring back Schindler’s List, of course:

    https://twitter.com/smashmarxcult/status/1035604391276015616?s=21

  263. Talha says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Mr. Giraldi, I recently came across this book and it has been a great read thus far:

    http://press.georgetown.edu/book/georgetown/immortal

    Have you read it? Do you know Steven Ward? If so, how reliable is he in his research and assessments?

    Peace.

  264. Akbar Ali says:
    @Robjil

    Robjil wrote, “Crimea going back to Russia was the best thing to happen in the world since the Zio trio took over the world in 1913. The Zios are not going to always “win” for now on.”

    Salam Robjil,

    You took the words out of my mouth. I fully agree with you that, “The Zios are not going to always “win” for (from) now on.”

    Let’s Make A Deal!

    I remember the above show. I believe every time, Netanyahu hears the above phrase, he cringes. The term coined by Obama for USA Government. But, Iranians are not dupe, and they know that any paper the Deal is signed on is even not worth to be used after taking a dump. LOL, the paper being too rough. Three years the Deal was negotiated, 7 Foreign Minister dancing on TV for our entertainment. Laurent Fabius, almost torpedoed the Deal in the end. Iranian were happy, knowing any Treaty won’t be passed by 2/3 of the both Houses.

    It took no time for Trump to tear up the Deal. Then he signs a Deal with North Korea, on a simple piece of paper. And, he is busy negotiating lots of Deals.

    Though, I don’t think that it is in Russian’s interest for Ukraine to be partitioned. Russians were paying the Ukraine bills, and they are now more than happy for IMF to pay these bills. Less stress on the Russian’s Treasury.

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  265. Akbar Ali says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Less stress on the Russian’s Treasury and in the same Deal, Russia gets the Crimea. What a Deal!

    Akbar Ali

  266. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @chris

    Even if suppression of criticism of Israel is not preparation for world conquest, it will, once imposed, create an inviting enablement to Israel to proceed right down that very path.

  267. Akbar Ali says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Philip Giraldi wrote, “2017 is correct – it was after Trump became president and the approach assumed that Papadopoulos still had high level access to the new Administration”

    Salam Dr. Philip Giraldi,

    LOL, Israel is full of dugin heads especially the Muller probe started in May 17, 2017 and the approach was made in July 2017.

    Netanyahu appears desperate!

    Best regards,

    Akbar Ali

  268. Sean says:
    @Akbar Ali

    http://www.unz.com/pfrost/the-other-slave-trade/
    With the gradual strengthening of European states, this trade increasingly took the form of hit-and-run raids that focused on poorly defended areas, such as the plains north of the Black Sea. This raiding would finally end only with European annexation of those “states” that earned most of their income from the slave trade, such as the Khanate of the Crimea and the Beyliks of North Africa.

    Would this trade have continued if Europe had remained weak? Probably. Would it have eventually become more humane and sustainable? Doubtful. Though often described as “harvesting,” there never was any effort to make it sustainable. A Tatar raid typically left behind the old and the very young, as a Polish report noted: “In the fields and forests they [i.e. the Tatars] left behind over 200 poor children whom they could not take along since everyone preferred to take horses and oxen rather than children” (Kolodziejczyk, 2006).

    The result was widespread depopulation of much of Ukraine and southern Russia, which in turn forced the Tatars to raid farther and farther afield, even as far as present-day Poland. Demographic wastage was considerable:

    The Crimean Tatar society was based on raiding the neighbouring Slavic and Caucasian sedentary societies and selling the captives into the slave markets of Eurasia. Approximately 75 percent of the Crimean population consisted of slaves or freedmen, and much of the free population was highly predatory, engaged either in the gathering of slaves or in the selling of them. It is known that for every slave the Crimeans sold in the market, they killed outright several other people during their raids, and a couple more died on the way to the slave market. (Britannica, 2013)

    • Troll: Akbar Ali
  269. Iris says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Hi Chuck; thanks for your trademark kindness and civility.

    Regarding Qatar-owned Al Jazeera, it was set by the BBC and always carefully avoided genuine criticism of Israel, so it does not deserve much credit.
    However, tables were turned when Israel ally Saudi Arabia decided to launch war against the Shia Houthi minority in Yemen, with Shia Iran as the endgame.
    Saudi Arabia required Gulf countries to align with her. They did, with the exception of independent Oman and, unexpectedly, Qatar.
    Qatar refusing to join the Saudi military coalition, it was put under embargo which lasts to the day.

    Qatar has always backed KSA and Israel, and funded mercenary wahabi terrorist brigades in both Libya and Syria.
    However, when it came to Iran, it adopted a different position. Two obvious reasons:

    - Economic interest: Qatar shares the gigantic South Pars offshore gas field with Iran, the largest in the world.

    - Self- preservation: Qatar has no strategic depth, it is small and located just facing Iran. In case of conflict, it can be wiped out within hours.

    So, this is why Al Jazeera is now leaking negative information about its former ally Israel.

    What I found most striking is that a tiny country like Qatar dares opposing a key policy of the KSA/Israel/US alliance. This is another major consequence of the outcome of the war on Syria: the Empire is indeed crumbling and a geopolitical jail break is happening.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Akbar Ali
  270. Iris says:

    Dontesk People Republic’s leader Aleksandr Zakharchenko has been murdered by a bomb blast on Friday.

    His passing further complicates negotiations to restore peace in Ukraine for the benefit of all its people.

    https://www.rt.com/news/437403-lavrov-murder-donbass-leader/

    Personal assassination: these are the despicable methods utilised by Russia’ s geopolitical foes.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  271. @Iris

    Good morning, Iris!
    … I always try & extend extremist- demonstrations of trademark, “kindness and civility,” especially for example, Sam The Shama & InZitatus, and I regret you happened to get slightly dinged by my friendly fire.
    … Inundated for decades by floods of ZUSA-produced DECEPTIONS, I instinctively became cautious about Al-Jazeera’s threatened release of film which reportedly displays how chin-deep into Israel’s Dead Sea are ZAmerican Congressman.
    … To counterpunch the great truth which Al-Jazeera apparently has in its possession, our ZUSA Lowerarchy have a great arsenal of lies which trickle-down to a trusting & insouciant American audience.
    … (zzZigh) Does anyone here really believe
    their Senators and Congressmen care about being caught (red-handed) trading their souls/votes for Jewish Lobby support to win elections?
    … Nonetheless, Iris, thanks for supplying extraordinary information on Qatar and, fyi, it’s my prayer/petition that the American-Israeli Empire “crumbles” without multi-millions of human casualties, & using their deranged/deceptive language, “collateral damage.”
    … Selah, Pontius Pilate, “What is Truth?,” versus Christopher Bollyn, “What is Theater?”

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  272. Akbar Ali says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    ChuckOrloski wrote, “fyi, it’s my prayer/petition that the American-Israeli Empire “crumbles” without multi-millions of human casualties, & using their deranged/deceptive language, “collateral damage.”
    … Selah, Pontius Pilate, “What is Truth?,” versus Christopher Bollyn, “What is Theater?””

    Blessed are Peacemakers!

    Crumble it will…. InshaAllah!

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  273. @Iris

    Hi Iris,
    …Apparently some Jews fall victim to their own kind, via “despicable” (warmongering) Trump administration economic sanctions.
    … Please refer below to the Al-Jazeera report, below?

    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/iran-jewish-hospital-grapples-fallout-sanctions-180824132202548.html

    … Thanks, Iris.

  274. @Akbar Ali

    Hi Akbar,
    … On Corporate Media CBS now, I watch Jews, Joseph Lieberman & Henry Kissinger, offer obligatory ZUS tributes to John McCain.
    … (zzZigh)

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  275. Hey geokat,
    Lest we fail to get full-picture of “Maverick” American hero, John McCain, below is linked a video of him safely touring a “liberated” Baghdad street & accompanied by Zionist heroes, Joseph Lieberman and Lindsey Graham.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  276. Akbar Ali says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    ChuckOrloski wrote, “I watch Jews, Joseph Lieberman & Henry Kissinger, offer obligatory ZUS tributes to John McCain.”

    Salam Chuck,

    The Crafty Lieberman talked on and on how John and he used to stand in Jerusalem hotel balconies, and John every time used to talk about the History of Jerusalem throughout the years, and how different people lived there over the years. The Crafty man used, Jerusalem to be the Sinning City on the Hill, and that John was already there, but as usual didn’t have the courage to call the Shinning City for all.

    These are men without courage and without peace in their hearts!

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  277. Akbar Ali says:

    ChuckOrloski wrote, “Lest we fail to get full-picture of “Maverick” American hero, John McCain, below is linked a video of him safely touring a “liberated” Baghdad street & accompanied by Zionist heroes, Joseph Lieberman and Lindsey Graham.”

    Salam Chuck,

    Saddam was an evil man. He bleed Iran for eight years in an unnecessary war for the pleasure of ZUS. He even gassed Iran’s civilian, a man with no honor. Butchered umpteen Shia and didn’t allow them ever to honor the Shrines of Imam Ali and Imam Hussein, the first and third Imams respectively.

    After, the first Gulf War, the father Bush encouraged the Shia to rise up against Saddam. USA sat back and allowed Saddam to mow the Shia like ants, including some of their biggest Ulemas (Scholars) and their families. These Ulemas were a great loss to Shia faith, as they were daily feeding lots of people.

    The Dubya is sharp. He got rid of Saddam and empowered Iraq to be part of resistance. He empowered the Shia Crescent, thus empowering them a force to reckon against Israel.

    Good times are ahead…

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  278. Akbar Ali says:
    @Iris

    Iris said, “They did, with the exception of independent Oman..”

    Salam Iris,

    Iran is on one side of Straight of Hormuz, and the other side is independent Oman. Pretty soon a land bridge will be built connecting the Hormuz, thus connecting Iran with GCC (UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait and Oman).

    Pretty soon, Yemen will be included into GCC, making it a nation of seven, instead of six. Yemen, the nation so admired by the Prophet of Islam, Mohammad (saws). Three times he blessed Yemen, when he was asked to bless Saudi Arabia, he refused their request.

    Good things are happening to Middle East and especially to Shia, as finally the history of Islam is told with Truth by Sunni Ulemas (Scholars)!

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  279. Akbar Ali says:
    @Akbar Ali

    The Crafty man understood that John kept on telling him that the Sinning City on the Hill belonged to All Nations, All Religions and All People. But the Coward in his eulogies to John, refused to recognize this Truth and Courage of John.

    He made it an emotional Zionist issue!

    Iran has already built a land bridge to Syria through Iraq.

    Ali Akbar

  280. Akbar Ali says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Akbar Ali wrote, “After, the first Gulf War, the father Bush encouraged the Shia to rise up against Saddam. USA sat back and allowed Saddam to mow the Shia like ants, including some of their biggest Ulemas (Scholars) and their families. These Ulemas were a great loss to Shia faith, as they were daily feeding lots of people.”

    The father Bush was always interested to keep the balance between the sects, so that he can play one against the other.

    Akbar Ali

  281. Allan says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Both Judaism and Christianity…

    A serious reply to my question and request would have nothing to do with any sect of Christianity, which arose long after Judaism emerged on the scene in the Levant.

    …are considered the Family of Book.

    Gibberish.

    One God, One Book

    False. Judaism rejects the Gospel of Mark and both works attributed to Luke (Gospel; Acts of the Apostles), to give just three examples of the difference between reality and your delusional notion about “One Book”. Furthermore, the Trinitarian sect insists that the god of Abraham is a triune god: one substance and three persons. This, too, the Jews reject, and, of course, it’s an abomination in Judaism to idolize a Jew, as do the Trinitarians.

    Please see my above comment #212

    …which has nothing whatsoever to do with answering the question asked.

    In Islam, God doesn’t have a name

    The god of the Koran—which isn’t relevant to Jewish apologetics—has 99 names. Two of them are al-haqq and al-qādir, although it would be better to say that these are alleged attributes.

    if He did, then He will become our property

    Silly inference. Planets such as Mars and Venus have names, but they don’t become our property because of this.

    The Creator is one for all mankind, therefore He/She/It sent the same religion on all mankind.

    Why? Because the god’s “hand is fettered” (Koran 5:64) such that it has no choice or freedom to do otherwise?

    al-ilah (allah) is…

    Romanized Arabic, which has nothing to do with showing that Judaism is true, not even if you write “al-ilah” in the Kufic script.

    It’s clear now that you have no interest in explaining yourself coherently, and it’s quite possible that you lack the ability to comprehend how to procede. Pity you, outlaw.

  282. Akbar Ali says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Akbar Ali wrote, “Good things are happening to Middle East and especially to Shia, as finally the history of Islam is told with Truth by Sunni Ulemas (Scholars)!”

    Iran demanded the above price for their cooperation and sacrifices. Whereas, the Sunni demanded the preservation of their thrones. After Arab Spring, which led to the fiasco in Egypt of Mursi and 1000 Egyptians killed in one day by Sisi Military Forces, no Arab yearns for Democracy anymore!

    Akbar Ali

  283. I.M says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    I’m quite surprised to hear this as many leftist generaly don’t seem to understand this issue and tend to opt for morality, without ethics.

    Regarding the ethical question, i understand and very much appreciate this, however the concept of ethics is conditional based on QUALITATIVE differences in the actions of the subjects in question.

    We say for example a greedy businessman takes advantage of russia run down on it’s luck and buys up it’s asssets for cheap. This is immoral, however it’s not unethical as he has basically played by the rules and engagned in a mutualy consentual transaction. You cannot prosecute.

    Now where the question of ethics comes in is if there was something of a bribery or coercion comes in to the picture then it becomes an ethical question. You can prosecute.

    However let’s take things one step further and, as you say, analyse the question of causality and the attribution of responsibility. Whereas i’m genereally incredibly cynical towards the communist/socialist left as in many cases they advocate killing “borgeosie” or whatever based on moral grounds which, from my understanding, makes them no different to your run of the mill religous fanatic, in this instance i believe that such comparisons are a mischaracterisation of the dilemma we face. To put it succinctly i prescribe to the notion that what occured after the fall of the SU was an act of genocide and that many of the people who participated are in fact guilty of mass murder.

    Here the laws of the voluntary transaction aren’t the only factor when you can clearly see in real time that what your doing is leading to the deaths of a great number of people. The onus here is on you and your responsibility. It’s not just a moral dilemma where “oh i see starving man! Do i have to share my bread with him?”. Me as a libertarian minded fellow would say no, you don’t have an obligation however it would be a nice and moral thing if you do. However in this instance it’s by your UNETHICAL actions that the man is starving, or for e.g. “i cut costs on a bridge and well, you know, it collapsed *shrug*.” Such a thing requires an incredibly harsh punishment, which failure to mete out results in some negative sociatal implications.

    So i can’t quite agree with this course of action on ethical grounds however i do understand why it’s required for stability. Hopefully when the times is right Putin will go full Bolshevik.

  284. Akbar Ali says:
    @Allan

    Allan wrote, “False. Judaism rejects the Gospel of Mark and both works attributed to Luke (Gospel; Acts of the Apostles), to give just three examples of the difference between reality and your delusional notion about “One Book”.”

    The Quran calls both Jews and Christians as “Family of Book”. It doesn’t matter what you and Jews think about my religion.

    Allan wrote, “Silly inference. Planets such as Mars and Venus have names, but they don’t become our property because of this.”

    Not Really. WHYH is without vowels, which was complete case with OT written in Hebrew without vowels. Vowels were inserted in OT written in Hebrew from Arabic during the 12th to 15th centuries. In Jesus’ time, Hebrew was a dead language, it was resurrected from Arabic in late 19th century. Till today, the Jews write God without vowels as G-d. Wonder why?

    If WHYH was God’s name in Hebrew, then God will exclusively belong to Jews and no one else. I have heard Jews making this rubbish claim.

    Allan wrote, “The god of the Koran—which isn’t relevant to Jewish apologetics—has 99 names. Two of them are al-haqq and al-qādir, although it would be better to say that these are alleged attributes.”

    Now you are cooking, you are right that 99 are attributes of God and not names of God. Do you see Allah in these 99 attributes. Imam Ali says, these 99 attributes should be taken as a whole. If we take them separately, then we multiply God and move away from Pure Monotheism. He gives as an example, of two attributes of God, “First and Last” and he says, if we take them separately, then we are assigning Time to God as God is the Creator of Time and He is not bound by His Creation, such as Time.

    Allan wrote, “Romanized Arabic, which has nothing to do with showing that Judaism is true, not even if you write “al-ilah” in the Kufic script.”

    What script has to do with language. Arabic has 100s of scripts. There are two Arabic written languages, one is old, old Arabic which is modern Arabic. The second is Quranic Arabic which is called, “Classical Arabic”. It both written Arabic it is al-ilah. Here is a verse 114-3, where God is refereed to ilah.

    إِلَٰهِ النَّاسِ – 114:3 – See no al-ilah only ilah and being a feminine noun, gender for gender is matched, but I seriously doubt that you can read Arabic.

    Allan wrote, “Why? Because the god’s “hand is fettered” (Koran 5:64) such that it has no choice or freedom to do otherwise?”

    I have never heard of it, so I decided to look up the verse. Here is what the verse says:

    And the Jews say, “The hand of Allah is chained.” Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say. Rather, both His hands are extended;

    LIAR. I didn’t know that you are a Wahhabi, who takes the Quran literally. A Wahhabi says, when Allah tells us in the Quran, that his hands are extended, then why should Allah lie in the Quran, but you say they are, “tied”.

    Kind regards,

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  285. Akbar Ali says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Akbar Ali wrote, “YHYH is without vowels”

    Jews are afraid to put vowels in YHYH (G-d), but since I am a Muslim, I will put vowels in YHYH ELOHIM, without being scared!

    Let us see what it becomes, “YaHuWaH ELOHIM. It becomes, O’He Elohim. Learn your own language first!

    Akbar Ali

  286. Akbar Ali says:
    @Allan

    Do you know why the Khazar Jews hates Arabs and especially Palestinians so much?

    Because Arabs are the real Jews, Christians and Muslims. The Jews who came out from Egypt were “Cow Worshipers”. If you don’t believe me, look up the Quran, and wonder why the second chapter of the Quran is named, “Cow”

    Those Arabs, whether Jews, Christians, Muslims know their language very well. Take any Arabic Bible from any Church, and you will find that in those Bibles, God is called, “Allah”.

    I honestly feel sorry for you….

    Akbar Ali

  287. Akbar Ali says:
    @Allan

    Allan wrote, “Romanized Arabic, which has nothing to do with showing that Judaism is true, not even if you write “al-ilah” in the Kufic script.”

    This article is about the Arabic word “Allah”.

    Allah, Arabic: الله‎, translit. Allāh, is the Arabic word for God in Abrahamic religions. In the English language, the word generally refers to God in Islam. The word is thought to be derived by contraction from al-ilāh, which means “the god”, and is related to El and Elah, the Hebrew and Aramaic words for God.

    The word Allah has been used by Arabic people of different religions since pre-Islamic times. More specifically, it has been used as a term for God by Muslims (both Arab and non-Arab) and Arab Christians. It is also often, albeit not exclusively, used in this way by Bábists, Bahá’ís, Mandaeans, Indonesian and Maltese Christians, and Mizrahi Jews. Similar usage by Christians and Sikhs in West Malaysia has recently led to political and legal controversies, such as There is no god but Allah.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah

    The Arabic is, “no ilah but al-ilah” and not “There is no god but Allah.”. How can in this day and age, one becomes so ignorant. However, brother Chuck will take to the sheds for using Wikipedia as a source, but I didn’t have a choice.

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
    , @Iris
  288. Akbar Ali says:
    @Akbar Ali

    The Arabic is, “no ilah but al-ilah” translates to “no god but the god”

    In Semitic languages words are joined, so al-ilah as written as allah.

    eli, eloi, elohi or elahi means, “my god”….

    It would be bad Arabic to write, allahi for “my god”. Bad grammar meaning,”my the god”,

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  289. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    … touring a “liberated” Baghdad street

    Hey, Chuck. I like how you put liberated in quotation marks. The reporter assured its Dumb Goyim viewers that McNasty wasn’t there for a photo opportunity. I’m somewhat dubious on that claim. If he wasn’t there for a photo op, why didn’t he tour Fallujah, instead of Baghdad, which would clearly demonstrate just how “liberated” Iraq was?

    • Replies: @Iris
  290. Iris says:
    @Akbar Ali

    The Arabic is, “no ilah but al-ilah” and not “There is no god but Allah.” “

    This is completely wrong, the opposite is true.
    This phrase is the first phrase of Muslim profession of faith, and there is no ambiguity whatsoever as per its meaning: Allah (ألله ) is used as a proper noun, the noun of the “only true God”.

    Using Al Ilah (ألإلآه)/ The God instead can be done in vernacular language, but not in the profession of faith as this would be a cause of confusion, because unlike what you wrongly stated in another post, Arabic language does have a plural form for The Gods, which Al A’ liha ( ألآلهة ).

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  291. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    … Also, for refresher course purpose, I recommend watching the David Irving video (below), and where he discusses “history manipulation.”

    DI is smply brilliant! Thanks for sharing, Chuck.

  292. Iris says:
    @geokat62

    What best demonstrates the “humanitarian liberation of Iraq is the photos of Fallujah children ruined by depleted uranium.

    I am not going to post any because I cannot even stand looking at them. One just needs to type the keywords in a search engine to see by themselves what horror the Anglo-Zionist empire has brought onto the Iraqi people.

    I am not sure anymore the US holds main responsibility for the war on Iraq. A recent book by US oil expert Gary Vogel demonstrates that the Iraq war was undertaken to provide oil to Israel and boost the Israeli economy.

    This is a very important book that would deserve a review on the Unz website.

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
    , @ChuckOrloski
  293. Akbar Ali says:
    @Iris

    Iris wrote, “Arabic language does have a plural form for The Gods, which Al A’ liha ( ألآلهة ).”

    Son what you have given above is the plural for ilah ( ألآلهة ), which has one L. Allah has two LL, such as Allah (ألله ). See (ألله ) has two LL, whereas ( ألآلهة ) has one L. There is no plural for Allah, especially as you claim Allah is a proper noun.

    BTW, old Arabic has only nouns. It is not like English which has nouns, proper nouns and pronouns.

    Son you need to take a breather…..

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Iris
  294. Akbar Ali says:
    @Iris

    LOL, a pipeline from Kirkuk to Haifa going thru Syria, in the video you posted above, watch it especially at 1:50 to 2:00 minutes.

    You need to take some geography lessons.

    Grow up son!

  295. Iris says:
    @Akbar Ali

    The double L (LL) in Allah does not mean that the original Arabic word contains 2 L’s. It is a conventional way to transcribe into Latin-based languages a punctuation sign called “chidda”, which is used to stress on a consonant. The word below has a chidda on the middle letter: it is the sign similar to a horizontal 3.

    French does not stress on consonants, Spanish and English do but it is not indicated by any punctuation, Arabic does and it is indicated by the ” chidda” sign added onto the letter. And you have no knowledge of Arabic.

    Also, I am not your son, I am a woman. The clue is in the moniker, Iris.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Talha
  296. @Iris

    Hi Iris,
    Directly after W.Bush’s barbaric “liberation” of Iraq, I read NYT reports about US forward military bases being named after huge oil companies, for example, Exxon-Mobil.
    … Regret I failed to get a source that would back up this weird & brazen operation. Maybe Research Specialist geokat can do so?
    … Nonetheless, below is a video on the incredible size, wealth, & political power in the Exxon-Mobil pumps, featuring the global stature of ex-Trump Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson.
    … Thanks for posting information on Gary Vogler’s book, Iris, must get it!
    … “Netanyahu order to Secretary Mike Pompeo, “filler up to the top!”

    • Replies: @geokat62
  297. @Iris

    Iris said: “I am woman.”
    Hi Iris,
    … Eh-hem, cool, that’s good news!
    … As the unnecessary revenge attack upon the Afghanistan & bombing of Taliban forces (some riding horseback), I looked around and, except for “Dixie Chicks,” Natalie Manes, I did not see much of an anti-war movement, particularly in the once non-conformist, folk-blues sector.
    … In fact, traditional outspoken rebel, singer-songwriter, Neil Young, did a 9/11 pep-rally song called, “Let’s roll!” (zzZigh)
    … However, a real-deal radical artist, Steve Earle, came forth & released a daring anti-war song, called, “John Walker Blues.” Steve ain’t no 1950′s crooner, but linked below is his revisionist GWOT-history making song.

    Selah, “there’s no god but God…,”

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
    , @Iris
  298. Talha says:
    @Iris

    Agree here…etymology can be discussed but Allah is the proper noun in Arabic for God. It breaks multiple normal rules. Many Muslims will call it ism jalaal – the exalted name.

    One of the ways it breaks the rules is its articulation. By normal rules the laam with the alif should be pronounced light like it is in every other word whenever it has a fath-ha on it or alif maksoorah (like the ‘a’ in the words bat and cat) But in this particular name (only), it is pronounced heavy (like the vowel sound in words like ought and caught). The laam never, ever behaves that way except in the name Allah.

    Thought I’d weigh in.

    Where did you study Arabic, if you don’t mind me asking?

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  299. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    … I read NYT reports about US forward military bases being named after huge oil companies, for example, Exxon-Mobil.

    Could only find this one reference, Chuck:

    As for Iraq, Exxon-Mobil used its capacity as the leading US oil company to play a leading role in the escalation that led to the invasion and current chaos, to the extent that one of the forward bases of the US army was called by the name of the company.

    https://www.voltairenet.org/article128189.html

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  300. Akbar Ali says:

    ChuckOrloski wrote, “Selah, “there’s no god but God…,””

    One of the most fanatics are converts, who converted from one religion to another. They always try to prove, they made the right choice. But, I wouldn’t include Cats Steven in this category.

    The Urdu language is mostly made up of Arabic and Persian. Khuda is God in Persian. So, both the Iranians and the Pakis used to say, “Khuda Hafiz” meaning, leaving you in God’s Protection. In Arabic, it is Fi -Aman Allah.

    Saudi Arabia money has worked wonders on Pakistan. The Iranian still say, “Khuda Hafiz”, but if you say this to a Paki, he will look at you that he is going to murder you. And, he answers, “Allah Hafiz”. Most Muslims in Europe are Pakis.

    Shia are butchered right and left everyday in Pakistan. Hardly, any Paki knows that the founder of the country, “Mohammad Ali Jinnah” was a Shia.

    However, Saudi Arabia is having Wahhabi blow back. Imagine, women are not allowed to drive in this day and age. Saudi women cover themselves as Ninja, and when the airplanes leave the Saudi airspace, there goes the Ninja cover, and bottles of all kind of brews are enjoyed. Saudi has a land bridge to Bahrain, and on weekends it is bumper to bumper traffic. Bahrain, were weed, wine and whites are readily available. Women from any part of the world for the right price.

    The rulers of Saudi are smart and under the disguise of MSB things are rapidly changing for good, so do in Pakistan with Imran Khan becoming the Prime Minister.

    Imagine, Hindus are created by Bagwan, Jews by YHWH, Christians by God and Muslims by Allah. What happened to One Creator, One Book and One Law. The only way one can show his/her extreme love for God, is by loving his/her neighbors.

    Salam,

    Akbar Ali

  301. Akbar Ali says:

    Akbar Ali wrote, “Hindus are created by Bagwan”

    If one studies Hindu religion deeply, one finds it to be Monotheists too. All the religious wars are for two reasons:

    1. My definition of Monotheism is the correct one, especially in the ISIS, Wahhabi and Paki theology.
    2. My definition 0f the Creator is the right one.

    Best regards,

    Akbar Ali

  302. @geokat62

    … Thanks geo for finding a published report naming US military forward bases after oil companies. There were others named thusly in addition to Exxon-Mobil!
    … Having followed NYT reports during aftermath of ZUSA’s faux-revenge assault on Afghanistan & unnecessary & immoral “Shock and Awe,” fyi, there were three (3) NYT first page photographs which caught my attention. They are as follows;
    1. A color photograph depicting an American soldier armed-patrol on the perimeter of an Afghan poppy field. (Note: Soviet historian Roy (?) Medvedev wrote a book that scoffed US government’s claim that Mujahedeen were “Freedom Fighters.” Medvedev insisted that the real battle was being waged by competing WARLORDS who desired to be kingpins in the international heroin trade)
    2. Post-”liberation” of Iraq, the NYT offered a front-page photo that depicted gleeful western oil company executives seated at conference table & negotiating deals with a new set of Iraqi officials who were open to doing “business” with Paul Brenner’s oily Occupation forces.
    3. Lastly, & perhaps of less importance, a NYT front-page offered a color photo of the dreaded Afghan Taliban who were accused of offering sanctuary to OBL, & who had nothing to do with the 9/11 terror attacks!
    The NYT’s picture showed a fearsome rifle-toting Taliban (euphemism) “non-combatant,” traveling upon a horse, and apparently defending the “graveyard of Empires” from the mighty American-Israeli Empire Army. (zzZigh)
    … Thanks once again for the fine research help, geo!
    Selah, Brit singer Rod Stewart, “Every picture tells a story, don’t it!”

  303. geokat62 says:

    It appears Browder once again got his way and the Nekrasov film has been removed from Vimeo:

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  304. Akbar Ali says:

    Lest we forget Halliburton, the personal Oil Company of Darth Vader.

    Akbar Ali

  305. @geokat62

    geokat62 conveyed the opposite of gospel-tenet, “Good News” “It appears Browder once again got his way and the Nekrasov film has been removed from Vimeo:”
    … Regrettably, such Secular Jewish High Roller/Priest “censorship” is par-for-the-course.
    … At any rate, the good news is that their disposal-technology that consigns unwanted FACTS into the American “Memory Hole” is less than complete.
    Thanks, geo.

  306. Akbar Ali says:
    @Talha

    Talha wrote, “it has a fath-ha on it or alif maksoorah (like the ‘a’ in the words bat and cat)”

    The Arabic diacritics were introduced 50 years later after the first written Quran, the Mushaf (Codex) of Osman was released. The third Caliph Osman released the first Mushaf (Codex) of Quran written in Old, Old (Modern) Arabic, which even didn’t have Arabic diacritics and dots to properly identify the different Arabic letters (alphabets). Prophet left the Quran with Ali written in Quranic Arabic, but the first Caliph abu Bakr refused to accept it which had the Arabic diacritics and dots for identifying various Arabic letters (alphabets), this written Arabic is called, Quranic Classical Arabic.

    Images of first Arabic Quran written in Old, Old Arabic, without the Arabic diacritics and no dots for identifying various Arabic letters (alphabets).

    https://www.islamic-awareness.org/quran/text/mss/topkapi.html

    Check out the image (d) and the first word is Allah, written without the Arabic diacritics.

    After Osman, Ali become the forth Caliph, he formed a committee of his students in the leadership of abu Aswad, to put the dots for the letters and convert it from Old, Old (Modern) Arabic to Quranic Classical Arabic by putting Arabic diacritics. This project was completed 40 years after the demise of Ali.

    Allah was used as God by all the Arab Tribes, before Islam. The problem lies Muslim not knowing the history of Quran and history of written Arabic languages.

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Talha
  307. Akbar Ali says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    ChuckOrloski wrote, “”In fact, traditional outspoken rebel, singer-songwriter, Neil Young, did a 9/11 pep-rally song called, “Let’s roll!””

    Well I heard mister Young sing about her
    Well, I heard ol’ Neil put her down
    Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
    A Southern man don’t need him around, anyhow

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSvKkMs2ieo

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  308. Akbar Ali says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Well, the video posted above is called, “The Ballad of Curtis Loew” as the most appropriate response to Mr. Young.

    Akbar Ali

  309. Good afternoon, Philip Giraldi,
    … As Scranton presents the city’s annual & impressive Italian Festival, I greet you with goodwill and a question.
    … As Italian musicians & singers perform in ear-shot of my home, I happened to read the disturbing report (below) about our government’s plan to lie again, & then crucify the defiant Basher Assad government.

    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/09/01/572861/Syria-Idlib-chemicals

    … Given a luxury of time, Phil, can you please help me get things straight? I promise neither any Bible-Thumping nor Quran-Thumping.
    … As per the linked article, the US plans to strike Syrian government forces because the Syrian army is repelling “terrorists” who operate in their country.
    … In contrast, while tuned into our Jewish Corporate Media, American citizens get daily sermons on how Russia (exclusively) interfered in the 2017 ZUS presidential election. (zzZigh)
    … Phil, assuming the above “pressTVreport” & my observations approximate reality, I ask you: How much longer can concerned & restless American citizens stomach their government’s HYPOCRISY?
    … Thanks for all you do. Ciao and a Gomer Pyle “Santa Maria” good day from Scranton!

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
  310. Talha says:
    @Akbar Ali

    I’m well aware of the history of the development of the diacritical marks in written Arabic. This in no way refuted anything I stated about how the articulation of the laam in “Allah” is unique from its usage in every other word.

    You have referenced al-Islam.org multiple times. It is a well known site for Shiah doctrines and reference. Even they agree with me and Iris.

    The proper name which Islam uses for God is “Allah”. “Allah” means “One who deserves to be loved ” and “Into Whom everyone seeks refuge.” This word, grammatically speaking, is unique. It has no plural and no feminine. So this name itself reflects light upon the fact that Allah is one and only one; He has neither any partner nor any equal. This name cannot properly be translated by the word “God” because God can be transformed in `gods’ and `goddess’.

    https://www.al-islam.org/god-islamic-perspective-sayyid-saeed-akhtar-rizvi/part-3-tawhid

    Wa salaam.

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  311. Akbar Ali says:
    @Talha

    Talha wrote, “You have referenced al-Islam.org multiple times. It is a well known site for Shiah doctrines and reference. Even they agree with me and Iris.”

    Salam Talha,

    What you think, the BS has not crept in Shia religion?

    The author of the article is not very learned and he is trying to explain God in one page, whereas Imam Ali says:

    Praise is due to Allah whose worth cannot be described by speakers, whose bounties cannot be counted by calculators and whose claim (to obedience) cannot be satisfied by those who attempt to do so, whom the height of intellectual courage cannot appreciate, and the divings of understanding cannot reach; He for whose description no limit has been laid down, no eulogy exists, no time is ordained and no duration is fixed. He brought forth creation through His Omnipotence, dispersed winds through His Compassion, and made firm the shaking earth with rocks.

    The foremost in religion is the acknowledgement of Him, the perfection of acknowledging Him is to testify Him, the perfection of testifying Him is to believe in His Oneness, the perfection of believing in His Oneness is to regard Him Pure, and the perfection of His purity is to deny Him attributes, because every attribute is a proof that it is different from that to which it is attributed and everything to which something is attributed is different from the attribute.

    Thus whoever attaches attributes to Allah recognises His like, and whoever recognises His like regards Him two; and whoever regards Him as two recognises parts for Him; and whoever recognises parts for Him mistook Him; and whoever mistook Him pointed at Him; and whoever pointed at Him admitted limitations for Him; and whoever admitted limitations for Him numbered Him. Whoever said: ‘In what is He?’, held that He is contained; and whoever said: ‘On what is He?’, held He is not on something else.

    He is a Being, but not through phenomenon of coming into being. He exists but not from non-existence. He is with everything but not in physical nearness. He is different from everything but not in physical separation. He acts but without connotation of movements and instruments. He sees even when there is none to be looked at from among His creation. He is only One, such that there is none with whom He may keep company or whom He may miss in his absence.

    The Arabic word for One is “Wahid”, now look very carefully the Sura on the top of the page, you quoted. Does it says, Allah is Wahid? Or it says, Allah is Ahad?

    Same principle is in Shema Yisrael, the Jewish twice daily allegiance to God. The word used in Shema Yisrael is again Ahad.

    For you to understand, what Ahad means, I suggest that you read Najhul Balagha (Peak of Eloquence) by Imam Ali (as) to fully understand the Concept of God, Monotheism and Definition of God in Shia religion. From the same book, I have quoted the first sermon of Imam Ali (as) for your ease.

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Talha
  312. Iris says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Hi Chuck;

    Thanks for posting the anti-war song. You raised a very profound point: when did artists stop getting involved in promoting common good? When did the planet’ s intellectual and ethical pursuits drown in the gutter of greed? Some believe that this collapse of civilisation happened at the collapse of USSR, for a lack of geopolitical competitor drew the USA into delusion, hubris and complacency.

    I am glad to learn that the Dixie Chicks opposed imperial wars; they are talented musicians whom I like very much. With kind regards.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  313. Talha says:
    @Akbar Ali

    You are going all over the place now and I’m not interested in diving into the details and differences in the interpretation of Tawhid. I referenced the article to show one thing alone; that people who have formally studied the Arabic language know ”Allah” is a proper noun.

    That’s all I was positing in supporting Iris’ position on the subject.

    Wa salaam

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  314. Akbar Ali says:
    @Talha

    Talha wrote, I referenced the article to show one thing alone; that people who have formally studied the Arabic language know ”Allah” is a proper noun.

    Salam Talha,

    I am not interested to carry this any further. I tried to hint at you, that it has become fashionable these days to call Allah a proper noun, to the point that Malaysia is suing the Christians for using Allah in their Bible as Allah is exclusive for Muslim. If you have read my posts earlier, all Arabic Bibles have Allah in them for God. Even the Arab Jews call God, Allah.

    What do you mean by formal Arabic? You mean Quranic Classical Arabic?

    Or you mean Old, Old Arabic, prior to Islam?

    In the Old, Old Arabic, Allah was used by all Arabs whether Jews or Christians and it was before Islam. The formal Arabic which is in Quran, came in existence 70 years after the demise of Prophet Mohammad (saws).

    Muslims think that Ahad is exclusively in Quran, and not knowing it is used in Shema Yisrael, which I tried to hint to you.

    In conclusion, both Allah and Ahad are part of Old, Old Arabic, before Islam. And, both Jews and Christians Arabs, use the term Allah for God.

    Maybe, Wahhabistan can sue these Jews and Christians for using Allah for their God, as Malaysia did for .7 billion from Saudi Arabic in the personal account of Prime Minister.

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
    , @Talha
  315. Akbar Ali says:
    @Akbar Ali

    The late Ahmed Deedat who died in 2005, used to be a highly regarded scholar on Bible. He used to have old copies of English Bibles on his site, where Allah is used for God. Not Bibles in Arabic, but Bibles in English.

    BTW, the ex Prime Minister of Malaysia is sitting in the prison now.

    Akbar Ali

  316. Talha says:
    @Akbar Ali

    I mean in all Arabic, prior to and after the Quranic revelation. People of that area, Arab-speaking, used Allah as a proper name for God. There is no contradiction here. It is the same whether Jews or Christians used the term. When someone/anyone says “Zeus”, everyone knows exactly what they are talking about. “Allah” is a proper name – which is why it is pronounced (and even written differently). If it was simply a contraction of al and ilah then it would be pronounced like the laa sound in “lamp” like it is in every other word, but it is not – it is uniquely pronounced like the sound in “law”. You can ask any academic scholar of the Arabic language.

    Wa salaam.

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  317. @Iris

    Profoundly, Iris asked: “When did the planet’ s intellectual and ethical pursuits drown in the gutter of greed?”
    Hi Iris,
    … Following is reply.
    … The process of ethical-demoralization of our planet’s intellectual class resulted from centuries of gradual waterboarding by conscience-less elites.
    … And to seal shut the wise-voices of classical ethics, a shameful-humanitarian “drowning” occurred immediately after USA’s atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki civilian populations.
    … So keep faith & hold on, Iris! The “gutter of greed” flows down-gradient & drains into a human sewage treatment plant.
    Post scriptum: Hail Dixie Chick, Natalie Manes!

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  318. @ChuckOrloski

    Grazie Chuck e auguri a Scranton per la festa! The only question in my mind is whether we start the war in Syria or in Iran first. And of course in either case it will be before the november elections so we will all know how our government is protecting us and will vote accordingly. We are a very sick country at the moment, exemplified best in the beatification of John McCain, who was a living piece of shit when he walked upon this earth!

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Lasher
  319. Hi Phil,
    … For me, having watched parts of McCain’s macabre funeral was valuable!
    … Doing so provided a better way to “know thy Enemy.”
    … I predict a mad dog American-Israeli Empire attack on maybe the two (2) remaining “Islamo-Fascist” regimes during an NFL game “halftime,” and the Neoconservative right-wing will also get players who took knees during Star Spangled Banner.
    … Selah, “We are a very sick country” who shall foolishly rely upon care by very sick & filthy Doctor(Z)s.
    … Ciao and arrivederci, Phil! That’s about the extent of my Italian, plus of course Scrantonian- specialties, “minkya’ and fungoo-la-maggotz.”

  320. Akbar Ali says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    ChuckOrloski, ““drowning” occurred immediately after USA’s atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki civilian populations.”

    Timequake!

    Akbar Ali

  321. @anarchyst

    Very American of you not to notice that Jews do not control most of the *world’s* governments etc. And your 2 per cent is an America related figure….

  322. @Rational

    The Bedouins Have inhabited the Negev since BC times and Israel claims that they must be expelled…to make room for more ILLEGAL settlments…..Israeli Apartheid “laws” are illegitimate, inmoral, Illegal,…

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  323. Miro23 says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    We are a very sick country at the moment, exemplified best in the beatification of John McCain, who was a living piece of shit when he walked upon this earth!

    Got to show all the other collaborators that collaboration with the Empire pays well, and that they’ll be well looked after until the end.

  324. Akbar Ali says:
    @Talha

    Salam Talha,

    There were 3 issues identified above.

    1. I claimed that allah can’t be made into plural. Read at all the above posts carefully. Iris, she jumped in and said, it could, and then she quoted the plural for ilah. You then jumped in and started saying how allah should be pronounced in Quranic Classical Arabic. It has become very Wahhabi to pronounce allah in Quranic Classical Arabic. In bazaars and markets, allah is pronounced according to local dialect, just like before Islam. Today, Wahhabi are claiming it is wrong to write “inshaallah”, as it is idol thingy. They say, we should write it as “in sha allah”. I am really sick of them.

    2. The second issue was identified if allah is a feminine noun like ilah or it is a masculine noun. It all depends, if one believes that God has a gender or not. To Shia, God has no shape, form, body, spirit and so forth, so he/she/it doesn’t have a gender. There is no “it” in Arabic language and all nouns are either feminine or masculine. Also, calling allah as, “it” is disrespectful. In Quran the masculine gender is used for allah, but allah is basically a gender less noun.

    3. The third issue identified, if allah is a proper noun. Muslim have been debating this issue for centuries, some believe it and others don’t. I don’t.

    Salam,

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Talha
  325. Talha says:
    @Akbar Ali

    I have no clue who has been debating that it is not a proper noun. This forum is the first time I’ve ever heard of it. The only source you have cited for this is yourself.

    As to the other points; yes “Allah” is genderless, which again points to it being a proper noun.

    Wahhabi has nothing to do with pronunciation; proper tajweed rules predate the Wahhabi movement by centuries. Trying to pin everything that disagrees with you on the Wahhabi influence isn’t sound practice and I doubt anyone here is convinced.

    Name one culture that pronounces “Allah” like the sound in “lamp” instead of “law”. We also have the pronunciations of the various dialects preserved in the science of Quranic recitation; which one pronounces “Allah” differently?

    Wa salaam.

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  326. Akbar Ali says:
    @Talha

    Salam Talha,

    Again, you are everywhere and again hiding behind tawheed, do you know Talha what monotheism mean in Arabic, it means tawheed. Talha, I have given you umpteen examples that allah is not a proper noun. Is it why Muslims are suing Christians, not to use allah in their Bible, because Muslims consider them as Trinitarians and not Monotheist?

    Talha you are a male, so your name is Talha, which a masculine name. And, Iris is a female, and her name is Iris, which is a feminine name. Both of you have proper nouns. Now, look what you have written, which is one of your gem:

    As to the other points; yes “Allah” is genderless, which again points to it being a proper noun.

    And, I don’t understand your another gem below:

    We also have the pronunciations of the various dialects preserved in the science of Quranic recitation; which one pronounces “Allah” differently?

    Are you saying that science of Quranic recitation has seven recitations or only ONE?

    The supposedly science of Quranic recitation didn’t come into existence, at least 80 years after the Prophet’s demise. And, since then it is being refined. Is Quran recited in ONE way or seven different ways?

    Talha have you been in any Arab country, beside Saudi Arabia? How many different Arabic pronunciations are there? How many English pronunciations are there? Do Americans, British and Australia speak English with the same pronunciations. Do within American, all Americans speak English with the same pronunciations.

    No Arabic speaking country speaks with the Quranic pronunciation. You probably learned Arabic with the Quranic pronunciation as a Pakistani living in USA by someone who has converted to Islam.

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Talha
  327. Talha says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Look, it’s fine if you want to claim “Allah” is not a proper noun. Totally fine. The vast majority of scholars on the Arabic language disagree with you. This can be easily looked up in a reference like Lane’s Lexicon under the entry for “Allah” which states:
    “Allah: According to the most correct of the opinions respecting it, which are twenty in number, or more than thirty, is a proper name, applied to the Being who exists necessarily by Himself, comprising all the attributes of perfection; a proper name denoting the true god…”

    The article below is the reference and mentions various other normal rules the name breaks with normal Arabic due to honoring the name:

    http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2002.02.0015%3Aentry%3DAll~%60hu

    Is it why Muslims are suing Christians, not to use allah in their Bible, because Muslims consider them as Trinitarians and not Monotheist?

    To be honest, this argument is one of the weakest ones I’ve ever come across to try to prove that something is not a proper noun. As if denoting something is a proper noun then automatically assumes some kind of a legally enforceable trademark.

    Are you saying that science of Quranic recitation has seven recitations or only ONE?

    Seven and all of them say “Allah” the same.

    The supposedly science of Quranic recitation didn’t come into existence, at least 80 years after the Prophet’s demise.

    This makes no sense, each of the recitations has a well-known chain of transmission at the level back to the Prophet (pbuh). The codification of giving titles and exact names to the rules came later.

    No Arabic speaking country speaks with the Quranic pronunciation.

    Correct, but also irrelevant since we are only talking about one word. And despite these differences, they manage to say the name “Allah” according to its unique way.

    I have exhausted my say on the matter, I am not convinced by your argument nor – it seems – are you convinced by mine. This is fine; people observing are free to go with whichever side they feel has presented the better argument.

    Wa salaam.

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  328. Akbar Ali says:
    @Talha

    Salam Talha,

    This can be easily looked up in a reference like Lane’s Lexicon under the entry for “Allah” which states:

    Who is Edward William Lane? Yes, I know lots of Pakistanis use his Lexicon to translate personally the Quran for themselves.

    To be honest, this argument is one of the weakest ones I’ve ever come across to try to prove that something is not a proper noun. As if denoting something is a proper noun then automatically assumes some kind of a legally enforceable trademark.

    If you have read my posts above before jumping in, you would have found Malaysia suing both Christians and Sikhs not to use the name of Allah as their God.

    Seven and all of them say “Allah” the same.

    This makes no sense, each of the recitations has a well-known chain of transmission at the level back to the Prophet (pbuh). The codification of giving titles and exact names to the rules came later.

    This is one of the Sunni myth, which is recorded by Bukhari 200 years later after the demise of the Prophet. Shia believe in ONLY ONE RECITATION.

    Can you recite for me complete Quran in seven recitations? Or only one? I know that you will recite just allah the same way seven times, and you will tell me it is seven recitations. Full Quran, my friend Talha in seven recitations?

    Your Authenticated Books of chain of transmission have so much contradiction in them, it is boggling the mind. For example,
    1. Aisha said that goat eat the leaf on which some verses were written.
    2. Aisha said that Sura (Chapter) such and such had almost 200 verses, and I only see less than 100.
    3. The first Sura (Opening Chapter) is not part of the Quran.
    4. Quran is missing some verses and so forth.
    5. Or, Quran has been changed.

    However, all Muslims agree that the Third Caliph Osman who complied the first Quran and burned the rest of the Qurans, didn’t compile it:
    1. Serially, thus changing the stories of the Quran. For example, chapter 5, verse 67.
    2. He complied it in Old, Old Arabic and not Quranic Classical Arabic.
    3. It didn’t have dots for the letters (alphabets), so one could not make difference between letters, for example, B, Y, T, N and lots of other letters too.

    Correct, but also irrelevant since we are only talking about one word. And despite these differences, they manage to say the name “Allah” according to its unique way.

    No, they don’t, unless one learns Quranic Arabic. Even in regular discourse they forget to use it. They learn Arabic from their mothers, fathers, siblings and not like you from converts who are mostly Wahhabi.

    I have exhausted my say on the matter, I am not convinced by your argument nor – it seems – are you convinced by mine. This is fine; people observing are free to go with whichever side they feel has presented the better argument.

    Finally, we agree on something!

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Talha
  329. Talha says:
    @Akbar Ali

    I wanted to keep this just on the issue of the Arabic rule and grammar particularly in respect to the word/name of “Allah”.

    not like you from converts who are mostly Wahhabi.

    I learned it from a scholar from South Africa and my kids have learned proper recitation from Syrian teachers, but keep beating that Wahhabi horse.

    This is one of the Sunni myth

    I already told you a while back when you appeared as “Tammy” that I was not interested in getting into a Shiah-Sunni debate.

    Feel free to keep on repeating Shiah talking points as before, people are free to take you as an authority on these matters if they like – I will not engage. Thanks.

    Wa salaam.

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
    , @Akbar Ali
  330. Akbar Ali says:

    Salam Talha,

    ONLY ONE RECITATION.

    The Quran calls the Prophet (saws) Ummi, meaning the Mother of the language of Quran, and not that he is illiterate as reported by Aisha or any others like her in Bukhari 200 years later after the demise of the Prophet.

    So, the recitation is in his own Quresh dialect, and no other recitation. The seven recitations is per Omar, when he heard someone reciting the Quran and he couldn’t recognize it, so he took him to the Prophet and Prophet asked the man to recite again, and told Omar, yes it is Quran. Total BS, the Shia don’t believe this… Bukhari was complied 200 years later after the demise of the Prophet.

    Both Quran and Sunnah were burned, while the body of the Prophet was still warm!

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Talha
  331. Akbar Ali says:
    @Talha

    Salam Talha,

    I learned it from a scholar from South Africa and my kids have learned proper recitation from Syrian teachers, but keep beating that Wahhabi horse.

    See Talha, you are very rich and can afford scholars and teachers for your kids, thanks to USA. But most Arabs don’t have so much money, they can hardly buy their daily breed.

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Talha
  332. Talha says:
    @Akbar Ali

    the Shia don’t believe this

    As if Sunnis stay up at night worried about what the Shiahs don’t believe from our tradition.

    (sigh) Keep going “Tammy” (you’re on a roll) and give our regards to your “Dixie Chicken”.

    Wa salaam.

  333. Akbar Ali says:
    @Talha

    Salam Talha,

    I already told you a while back when you appeared as “Tammy” that I was not interested in getting into a Shiah-Sunni debate.

    It has nothing to do with Shiah-Sunni debate, it has to do with different beliefs. You believe in 7 recitations, and I believe in only one recitation. You believe that the Prophet was illiterate, and I believe that he was the mother of Quranic Classical Arabic and how to pronounce the complete Quran in only one recitation.

    When other people who came and claim that Prophet was illiterate and/or he married a six years old child, then I have to let them know about my beliefs. That he was not illiterate and he knew how to read and write. And, no he didn’t marry a six years old child, which is reported in Bukhari by Aisha, which was complied by Bukhari 200 years later after the demise of the Prophet. There is no where the Prophet informing us, that he married a six years old child.

    So chill brother, just different beliefs. You and Iris both jumped into it, in my posts. You don’t have to jump in my posts.

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Talha
  334. Talha says:
    @Akbar Ali

    The scholar I sat with never asked for a dime of remuneration. All he asked was for my time and commitment. I would drive from my home in Culver City to Inglewood for Fajr prayer every morning. There was a little Shiah boy who also came to him to memorize the Qur’an and learn tajweed.

    But most Arabs don’t have so much money

    And yet the people who teach my kids learned from scholars in Syria. Poverty has rarely ever been a blockage to people learning the various disciplines of Islam.

    Little kids in dirt poor countries in Africa learn Qur’an:

    One of the greatest scholars in the entire world, of the Maliki school, recently passed away, this was the school he taught at:

    It never stopped him from teaching and producing hundreds of scholars.

    Wa salaam.

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  335. Talha says:
    @Akbar Ali

    So chill brother, just different beliefs.

    Absolutely – which is fine, I can respect that, but then why are you making stuff up like:
    “Nahjul Balagha ‘The Peak of Eloquence’ by Ali the forth Caliph is considered by all Muslims as second only to Quran.”

    Nobody in the Sunni scholarship believes that work has any reliability. And that is on top of other claims you have made that we Sunnis believe – which is utter nonsense like about Yazid. Imam Ibn Hajar Asqalani (ra) – the greatest commenter on the Bukhari collection – stated:
    “Loving and glorifying him (Yazid) is not done except by a heretic.”

    This and other claims (too numerous to point out) on behalf of what Sunnis actually believe is nonsense and false.

    Why don’t you just stick to making points about what Shiahs believe and leave it at that, why do you feel the need to speak (often incorrectly) on behalf of the Sunni tradition?

    You and Iris both jumped into it

    I simply commented on Iris’ post and left you alone.

    I still don’t get your agenda here. Why did you, “Tammy”, return under a different name simply to do the same stuff over again? What do you hope to accomplish by throwing Sunnis (85-90% of all Muslims) and our tradition under the bus?

    Did you find a bunch of Muslims on Unz.com going off on and insulting Shiah doctrine that you felt the need to hop in and make retorts?

    You’ve basically conjured up and conducted a debate on your own; speaking for both sides.*

    Wa salaam.

    *And no, I still don’t want to debate – anybody who wants to take you as an authority on things can feel free to do so.

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
  336. Akbar Ali says:
    @Talha

    Salam Talha,

    One of the greatest scholars in the entire world, of the Maliki school, recently passed away, this was the school he taught at:

    You mean madrasas!

    Look at the slates, they only are learning letters and not Quran. Learning how to pronounce Quran verbally, doesn’t mean you are being taught Arabic language and that you understand Arabic language.

    In Quran memorization from heart and properly reciting the Quran, most of the time Bangladesh children win the yearly contests, they beat the Arab children. But do they know Arabic language, how to read, write and understand Arabic.

    There was a little Shiah boy who also came to him to memorize the Qur’an

    See Talha, your own words, he came to memorize the Quran. Not learn how to read, write and/or to understand Arabic, not even know how to understand Quran in Arabic and not translation of the Quran.

    Have you seen the Quran translation called, “The Authenticated International Translation”? Sounds big but, “Read Wahhabi translation”!

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Talha
  337. Akbar Ali says:
    @Talha

    Salam Talha,

    Nobody in the Sunni scholarship believes that work has any reliability.

    Only Sunni who are Wahhabi, don’t believe in the reliability of ‘The Peak of Eloquence’. This is a new thingy, but you should know the views of esteemed Sunni Scholars, and not Wahhabi Scholars. If you want, I can quote many of them.

    Imam Ibn Hajar Asqalani (ra) – the greatest commenter on the Bukhari collection – stated: “Loving and glorifying him (Yazid) is not done except by a heretic.”

    Who is Imam ibn Hajar. According to Dr. Zakir Naik, he quotes from Bukhari that Yazid is in Heaven with Hussein. Do you want me to post the video of Dr. Zakir Naik?

    Or the video of blind preacher, the Highest Wahhabi Preacher of Saudi Arabia calling Yazid, “The Commander of the Faithful” (ra).

    (ra)

    What does (ra) mean? God to be pleased with him/her, right? Whose grave is this? It is Commander of Faithful Ali (ra) the Forth Caliph of Islam. How he died? The Commander of Faithful Muawiya (ra) the Fifth Caliph of Islam had him murdered.

    Why the Commander of Faithful Muawiya (ra) the Fifth Caliph of Islam had Commander of Faithful Ali (ra) the Forth Caliph of Islam murdered.

    Because when Commander of Faithful Ali (ra) the Forth Caliph of Islam become Caliph, he wanted to remove Muawiya (ra) as the Governor of Syria.

    I can go on, but I bet you catch my drift.

    Akbar Ali

    • Replies: @Akbar Ali
    , @Talha
  338. Talha says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Learning how to pronounce Quran verbally, doesn’t mean you are being taught Arabic language and that you understand Arabic language.

    Never said that it did. It teaches you proper recitation.

    You mean madrasas!

    No, I meant what I said – the man was not some mere teacher for Qur’an memorization – he was a master jurist in the Maliki school, one of the greatest ones alive. Who has taught many other scholars who have gone on to teach others.

    The translation I like (in English) is usually Pickthall, but I prefer using this site (which has one of the most comprehensive list of translations):

    https://www.islamawakened.com/index.php/qur-an

    Wa salaam.

  339. Akbar Ali says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Islam has become a joke. Imam Ali, the murdered and Muawiya his murderer to gain the Caliphate by Force, both are called, “Commander of Faithful (ra).”

    The theology of ISIS is in the above event, which took place 30 years after the demise of the Prophet (saws). Take land by Force and Claim yourself to be Caliph, Commander of Faithful (ra).

    Time for me to go to bed, it is just past midnight in Oman.

    Akbar Ali

  340. Talha says:
    @Akbar Ali

    Only Sunni who are Wahhabi, don’t believe in the reliability

    This is a completely false statement. I have studied under many scholars, none of them Wahhabi. Nobody uses that work as a source for anything, and definitely not as the second most reliable text after the Qur’an.

    According to Dr. Zakir Naik

    OK, that’s nice – why would I take Dr. Zakir Naik over Imam Ibn Hajar (ra) – if you have to ask who Imam Ibn Hajar Asqalani (ra) is, then what are you doing speaking as if with authority on behalf of Sunnis?

    the Highest Wahhabi Preacher of Saudi Arabia

    Take it up with Wahhabis since I’m talking about the Sunni Orthodox tradition.

    How he died?

    He was killed by a Khariji rebel.

    I can go on

    Yes you can, “Tammy” and anyone who still believes you are an accurate source of information on Sunni doctrines is welcome to believe you. I still don’t get what your agenda is and why you keep popping up on these forums under different names to attack and state incorrect things about the Sunni tradition, but that’s between you and God.

    I’m asking again, please do not bother me with more Shiah debating points since we don’t even agree on the basics of the historical record. Thanks in advance.

    Wa salaam.

  341. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:

    Hi Talha,

    You don’t know what is Akbar Ali’s agenda but you do know what is the agenda of those who gave us “war on terrorism”.

    I suppose you would agree that is in fact a war against Muslims, against Islam. One of the objectives of the “war on terrorism” is of course to help that little country which controls USA and Russia to achieve its objectives. One of the objectives is to bring the western public opinion on the board and that is done by assimilating Islam with terrorism and terrorism with Islam hence lots of false flags in several western countries where the terrorist is always a “muslim.”

    All this seems pretty clear and should be crystal clear for all Muslims. For all decent human beings.

    But as an observer, It seems to me that the most important country for Muslims (for Sunnis anyway) is in bed with zionists. IMHO, for that reason that country lost its legitimacy to be a guarantor of most sacred sites of Islam.

    Maybe Muslims can’t do nothing against the headquarters of the international zio mafia in the ME.

    But are millions of Muslims also powerless against Saudi Arabia ?

    Shouldn’t it be moral obligation for all Muslims to free Saudi Arabia from the shackles of the IZM ?

    Hope you didn’t find this post as an insult. No offense intended. If you see it that way, do accept my apologies.

    Maybe what I wrote is just stupid. In that case, please just ignore this post.

    thanks

    • Replies: @Talha
  342. Talha says:
    @anonymous

    It seems to me that the most important country for Muslims (for Sunnis anyway) is in bed with zionists.

    To a degree this is correct. Saudi is important because of the sacred sites and oil, but, strategically, countries like Turkey and Egypt are more important and always have been.

    But are millions of Muslims also powerless against Saudi Arabia?

    Good question, what do we do about Saudi? I’m not sure what to do? The Muslim street is not keen on Saudi. I can tell you anytime Saudi is brought up in a dinner conversation between any Muslims I’ve ever come across, everyone complains about them. But they have a hell of a lot of money so they buy a lot of influence, just like the do in the West.

    They have the leadership of the most powerful country in the world dancing around with swords:

    I definitely don’t want the country simply falling apart either; they have some very serious armament that I would rather not think of in the black market since they are one of the largest military purchasers in the world:

    And if you speak out publicly against them, they can make sure that you and your family will never be allowed to make the Hajj pilgrimage. It really sucks.

    So, I’m up for suggestions other than praying that the leadership either comes to its senses or some change of the guard happens within the ruling family.

    Hope you didn’t find this post as an insult. No offense intended.

    None taken. I apologize that I don’t have a better answer for you – wish I did. This question is just as perplexing to me.

    Peace.

  343. @Peter Tazumal

    You are not wholly wrong but you have got it a bit garbled. The tenure of everyone about there is by way of lease from the government. There was very little freehold under the Ottomans and there still isn’t much. The Bedouins are, in legal terms, squatting like many early low class whites in the colonial southern states. They are not now inhabiting the Negev as they once may have because then they were constantly moving and now they are stuck in slummy welfare supported villages. Listening to one who was a local mayor I did nonetheless think the government was behaving oppressively. But, again for legal accuracy, there will be nothing illegal about the proposed Jewish villages since the Negev is part of Israel not the occupied West Bank.

  344. @Akbar Ali

    Is the Arabic “Allah” etymologically related to “El” one of the two Hebrew names for the deity in the Torah? (The other being Jahweh).

  345. Lasher says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Sounds a lot like Trump to me.

  346. Bianca says:
    @Tyrion 2

    “This sounds mad?” You said it. What you are trying to spin is transparent. Let’s make Corbin hater of everything that is normal and sane (like Israel, among others), who would always select evil iver good. And then to top off your presumably disinterested love of goodness, blame the entire human race as an evil under the sun.

    Not really. There are evil people, and thise zealots that would do anything to defend them, no matter how mad. We are talking here about such evil, self evident, indefensible. But there are always those that will stand up, and the more the evil flexes its muscle to destroy them — the more the evil is exposed. Evil brings grief to mankind, especially those who believe that this evil is committed in order to protect them. The nerds of the establishment usually are the last knes to comprehend what is at stake.

  347. Tony M says:

    In quoting party membership numbers it has to be remembered that the Scottish National Party (SNP) figure of 118,000 members is out of a population of Scotland of just 5.5 million people. The Conservative Party figure of 124,000 is out of an English (predominantly) population of about 60 million. In purely relative national terms the SNP is by far the greater force in terms of mass-participation of any party in the United (hardly) Kingdom.

    Granted there is some crossover: the SNP might have some few hundred members in England and likewise Conservative/Tory/Unionist party membership in Scotland is scarcely discernible. In both cases however the numbers are insignificant.

    The Conservatives have been in sharp decline in Scotland since the 1950s. They took a further nosedive and hit rock bottom during Thatcher’s rapacious vindictive slash-and-burn de-industrialisation of heavy industry: steel-making, shipbuilding, and lighter industries: truck, bus, car manufacture, electronics etc. to increase Scotland’s dependence on England and economically hobble it, policies began immediately she was elected in ’79 and continuing to the present day (the essentially identical in policy terms brief Blair/Brown interval notwithstanding). This lead to the glaring anomaly and democratic deficit that though they have governed Scotland through Westminster’s preponderance of English MPs, they have through that time never had so much as a fig-leaf or even a token mandate in Scotland. Their iron-grip on Scotland which they will not reliquish despite this shameful mockery of a democracy, sustained by routine use of dirty-tricks, dark-money and total and I mean Total media-control, even by US standards, and through the always present threat of sudden overwhelming military force, is due to the fact that Scotland, through its considerable oil, gas and renewable electricity capacity and future potential, is at present along with Russia, Norway and Estonia one of only four net exporters of energy in all of Europe.

    Both Tory and Labour, the puppet fronts of the hidden ruling elite, choose to ignore the fact that the 1707 union of Scotland and England/Wales – entered into involuntarily by Scotland after a sustained (since at least the 1680′s) campaign of blockade and terror till its Parliament in Edinburgh comprising ‘nobles’, but certainly not its people, shamefully submitted to bribery – is de jure if not quite de facto a bi-lateral union of two equals, which either partner can and Scotland very much would rather end, soonest.

    The Labour Party is of a fanatically ugly Unionist bent too, though its Scottish founder Keir Hardy made Home Rule for Scotland a central plank of early Labour’s founding policies, today they hate the SNP far more than they do the doctrinally and functionally identical Tories, for ousting them from their born-to-rule presumptuous and egregiously corrupt control of Scotland and following the trajectory the Tories had already followed, Labour have now been all but wiped out of existence in Scotland, having to resort to bussing ‘supporters’ in from England even for photo-ops. Both Conservative and Labour parties, even Corbyn’s (New New) Labour are British Nationalists, preferring in Corbyn’s case to mouth democratic platitudes for most of the planet but with a deathly colonialist iron-grip on the diverse countries which comprise the mainland of Britain. Corbyn is on this issue a hypocrite and a fraud, such inconsistency shows that his principles are variable and subject to change with the weather. Sorry then to pile in with his many and those the most vile detractors possible; as PM of a rump England-Wales – but there is no such position as yet existing – he’d be streets ahead of any alternative candidate, though still having the Blairite and Zionist monkeys on his back tormenting him, but if he continues to stand in the way of Scotland’s path to independence and its democratic right, the problems he has at present will pale to insignificance. His enemies are our, the Scots, enemies and if Corbyn really were his own man, he’d recognise that and not try despicably and in vain to keep Scotland down.

    The fear is that the SNP might turn out to be some quisling-ZOG affair in-waiting, who’ll sell us down the river as soon as the vote is secured, to the EU, US and the fiend financial overlords, but then would that be any worse, any different from that those conditions prevailing at present, and nothing can have been any worse surely than having England as neighbour for all time. The answer is No, so Independence for Scotland is very much on. Neither EU, US, NATO, Soros and his ilk, or a deluded English elite still dreaming of Empire have the right to try stop it.

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