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A friend of mine recently commented that if the current trend to reduce the study of history in schools to easily digestible politically correct soundbites that are being successfully pushed by social justice warriors continues, we will soon be limited to discussing how horrible slavery was, the Stonewall Inn riots and the so-called holocaust. Indeed, it seems that those who complain the loudest are the only ones listened to and no one complains more often or at greater volume than American Jewish groups intent on preserving the benefits that are derived from always being able to claim their perpetual victimhood.

Recent media accounts from Florida detail how low pandering to Israeli and Jewish interests can go. A high school principal identified as Dr. Willian Latson was removed from his position after he revealed to a parent that he considered the holocaust to be a belief and not a demonstrated fact. According to statement made by the school district, the action was taken “out of an abundance of concern” for students and staff after Latson had “made a grave error in judgment.” It added that “In addition to being offensive, the principal’s statement is not supported by either the School District Administration or the School Board.”

The story took place in the School District of Palm Beach County. Latson, now the ex-principal of Spanish River High School in West Palm Beach, presided over his school in a heavily Jewish district that includes Boca Raton. Latson is currently being considered for reassignment by the school district though there are have also been recurring calls from county and state legislators to fire him, which will undoubtedly occur.

The tale is somewhat convoluted and there are some disagreements about what actually took place, but it goes basically like this: roughly one year ago a high school parent, unidentified but presumably Jewish, emailed Latson asking him to confirm that holocaust education was a top priority in Spanish River H.S. He responded by email that the school has a “variety of activities” for holocaust education but “Not everyone believes the Holocaust happened. And you have your thoughts, but we are a public school and not all of our parents have the same beliefs.” He added that an educator has “the role to be politically neutral but support all groups in the school… I can’t say the Holocaust is a factual, historical event because I am not in a position to do so as a school district employee.”

After the emails were revealed to school officials, presumably by the parent, a year-long investigation commenced in which Latson apologized for having caused offense, saying his emails “did not accurately reflect my professional and personal commitment to educating all students about the atrocities of the Holocaust.” The school board initially ruled that he had not done anything meriting disciplinary action or a reprimand, but the story did not end there. Simultaneously, an online petition which eventually included 6,000 signatures was initiated demanding Latson’s replacement and he was subsequently removed from his position. The school board officials justified their change of course by citing his apparent unwillingness to comply with instructions, stating that they previously had ordered him to “expand the Holocaust curriculum at Spanish River and ordered him to spend ‘several days at the United States Holocaust Museum to increase his personal knowledge.’”

Latson responded that his emails and comments were not “accurately relayed” to the media: “I have been reassigned to the district office due to a statement that was not accurately relayed to the newspaper by one of our parents. It is unfortunate that someone can make a false statement and do so anonymously and it holds credibility but that is the world we live in.”

His statement implicitly blaming a school parent generated new problems for Latson with two Palm Beach County state lawmakers and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) calling for his firing because he had not groveled sufficiently. ADL stated that “ADL had hoped his apology was sincere and Latson could learn from his mistakes. Given that he cannot take responsibility for his actions, Latson should resign, and if not we believe the district should end his employment.”

The two state officials, Senator Kevin Rader and Representative Tina Polsky issued a statement saying “By his latest email, Dr. Latson has shown no remorse for his actions and we call on the district to immediately terminate him.”

The publication of Latson’s comments also unleashed heavy criticism from a broad range of other Florida public officials. Governor Ron DeSantis, who calls himself the most pro-Israel governor in American, joined in with “Look, to act like the Holocaust is a matter of debate, I mean, is just absurd.”

Senator Rick Scott called Latson’s comments anti-Semitism and tweeted that the “fact that someone charged with educating children would be unable to speak unequivocally on the realities & horrors of the holocaust is incredibly concerning.” Jewish State Representative Randy Fine, who recently introduced legislation officially banning “anti-Semitism” in Florida public schools, said “the law does not allow a Holocaust-denier to serve as a public school principal.” In a publish statement he expanded on that point, writing that “anti-Semitism by public employees in our K-20 public education system must be treated the same as racism.”

The controversy inadvertently revealed the extent to which state law now requires the holocaust to be taught in all Florida public schools. Ironically, Spanish River High has one of the country’s most rigorous holocaust education programs with the subject being taught both in ninth- and 10th-grade English classes as well as a component of both U.S. and world history. There is also an elective course as well regular holocaust assemblies for the entire school featuring keynote speakers. After the Latson controversy started, the school district required all 10th graders to read “Night” by Elie Wiesel. There are now plans to add multiple annual assemblies for students in every grade in the school district this year.

So, if you go to school in Florida your English and history courses will be about the holocaust and you will have to attend holocaust assemblies just in case some alleged atrocity has not been described extensively enough in class. Well, when does it end? When does the almost incessant pandering to Zionists and Jewish groups become too much for the deliberately kept-in-ignorance American public to tolerate?

The so-called holocaust was an historical event that took place in Europe seventy-five years ago. It has an established but very debatable narrative that pretty much has been contrived over the past fifty years for political reasons, see Professor Norman Finkelstein’s brilliant deconstruction of it in his book “The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering.” Those inconsistencies in the holocaust story and its general lack of credibility may have been what Latson was referring to.

The imposed holocaust narrative is full of holes and contradictions in terms of who was killed and how, but it is impossible for genuine academics to critique it if they want to stay employed. Books like Wiesel’s “Night” are largely works of fiction. The narrative exists to perpetuate the belief in Jewish suffering, which brings with it a number of practical advantages. First, it is regularly deployed to excuse the horrific treatment of the Palestinian people by Israel – Jewish suffering means that the creation of a homeland is a debt that all the world owes to the Jews without regard to what has been done to the area’s other inhabitants. Second, guilt over the alleged holocaust means that reparations from countries involved must be continued indefinitely. Currently the Poles are resisting new Jewish claims while the Germans have been paying for years. It is now being asserted that the descendants of so-called holocaust survivors have been genetically psychologically damaged, in the womb as it were, so reparations will presumably continue forever.

Third, holocaust guilt is used in the United States to counter any criticism of what Israel and Jewish groups are up to, as they use their wealth and access to power to corrupt America’s institutions and drive the country to needless wars. One might well ask, when confronted by the taxpayer funded holocaust museums that appear to spring up like mushrooms, why so much interest in a possible crime that has nothing to do with the United States? Where are the museums and courses in Florida schools discussing the mass killing that happened on our own shores, the genocide of the native Americans?

Lest we forget, the holocaust industry operates everywhere in America, particularly in the education system. Eight states already have laws mandating holocaust education (California, New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Florida, Illinois, Indiana and Michigan) and there is considerable pressure to make it universal in the United States. An alarmed World Jewish Congress (WJC) is urging required holocaust education for everyone everywhere “citing statistics from a 2018 poll revealing half of millennials can’t name a single Nazi concentration camp.”

A currently circulating WJC petition in Congress expresses concern over the rise in anti-Semitism, with a warning that “the horrors of the Holocaust are fading from our collective memory…” A bill to brainwash students so they will not forget, ‘The Never Again Education Act’, is currently making the rounds in the House of Representatives. It would make holocaust study mandatory in public schools and set up a Department of Education program that would train teachers to properly instruct students about the story of Jewish suffering.

Yes, the “Never Again Education Act” will soon be sucking up taxpayer money like an enormous vacuum cleaner and creating lots of new jobs for holocaust instructors, who will, of course, all be Jewish. Public schools will be teaching the next generation about what a great place Israel is and how the holocaust justifies vigilant groups like AIPAC and ADL, though it will not mention how they have corrupted the U.S. government and turned America’s foreign policy into an Israeli wag-the-dog. But who’s complaining? It’s good for the Jews, isn’t it?

So Dr. William Latson will be unemployed and possibly unemployable because he spoke the truth, a lesson to all of us that one must never cross the red lines established by the wielders of Jewish power in America. One might reasonably currently expect that serial pedophile Jeffrey Epstein will use the holocaust get-out-of-jail-free card in his defense, claiming that his recollection of the event has so traumatized him that he did bad things that he would not have otherwise considered. Poor Jeffrey. He has suffered so much.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation (Federal ID Number #52-1739023) that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected]

 
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  1. Rational says:

    HE IS BLACK. HE SHOULD SUE. HE CANNOT BE FIRED FOR REFUSING TO LIE.

    I saw his pic online and it appears he is black. He spoke the truth. Good man. He should sue.

    Everybody knows the holocaust is a hoax. It is a scientifically impossible fraud. The school is evil ordering teachers to teach hoaxes.

  2. Dr. William Larson made several mistakes … all of them really serious: (a) he didn’t kiss enough jewish a$$; (b) he tried to actually defend himself against the full might and power of the adl and the rest of the jewish mob in Florida; (c) this is the most unforgivable — he’s black … in a ‘heavily jewish district.’

    Game … set … and match.

  3. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    A middle school teacher in our area, while teaching about the suffering of the Jews in America, told the class that in the south, where she was from, people use derogatory terms like “jewing” somebody down to describe driving a hard bargain. Next thing we knew, she was leaving the district at the end the year to return to Alabama to care for her aging parents, even though her husband had an excellent job with a local tech firm. A few parents suspected she had been asked to leave just from that one innocent comment and would never be able to get a job anywhere in Western WA.

    E.A. Ross said in his book The Old World in The New that the Hebrews are consumed by over sensitivity, unscrupulousness and pleasure seeking. Couldn’t have found three more accurate terms to describe this tribe, though one might also add narcissism and shamelessness. Ross said this way back in 1914. Things have only gotten worse since, much, much worse now that they are the ruling class.

  4. renfro says:

    no one complains more often or at greater volume than American Jewish groups intent on preserving the benefits that are derived from always being able to claim their perpetual victimhood

    lol…no one but a Jew can find victimhood in absolutely everything.

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    Let’s dispense with the fiction that everything Trump does is good for Israel. He cares for Israel only so far as his policies toward Israel further his political aims and benefit him, and right now that involves using Israel as a shield for his own racism.”

  5. The so-called holocaust was an historical event that took place in Europe seventy-five years ago. It has an established but very debatable narrative that pretty much has been contrived over the past fifty years for political reasons, see Professor Norman Finkelstein’s brilliant deconstruction of it in his book “The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering.”

    I came across Finkelstein’s book purely by chance in the freebie pile of a local used bookstore about a decade ago, when in my mid 20s. It made me a skeptic of Israel, Zionism, and the Holocaust virtually overnight, not to mention drawing my attention to the fact that Jewish power is no tin hat conspiracy theory. In a just world, his book would be required reading for anybody 12 and over.

    While I remain a believer that there was a mass murder of Jews perpetrated by Germans, my own belief is that the manner in which this event is commonly portrayed today to be a vast exaggeration. The “six million” figure does not really hold up under scrutiny; my personal guess is that the actual number is no more than one million, and likely closer to the tens of thousands rather than millions. Most of those were probably murdered for being communists or other such political undesirables, rather than for their ethnicity as such; another good amount simply died in the closing months of the war because of supply and food shortages, although I do not discount that a fair amount were targeted for their religion or race.

    But even if that were the case, so what? They would not be the first to be targeted in that manner—nor were they even the last. There is more actual documentation and proof of the Armenian Genocide, for example, as a deliberate race/religion-focused act than there is for the Holocaust. Yet comparatively few peoples or nations seem to care about that event, most tellingly Israel. Meanwhile, the US on a federal level denies or refuses to acknowledge the Armenian Genocide. Imagine if any American political figure ever publicly vacillated on the subject of the Holocaust?

  6. renfro says:
    @Rational

    Yes he should……email a news story on this to the NAACP……this would be a good case for them.

    • Replies: @Wernermagnus
    , @Rastus
  7. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rational

    I guess we just found out the order of the victimhood totempole:

    Jews >>> homos >>> blacks >>> muslims >>> illegals > hispanics > native americans > women >>> Indians >> Southeast Asians >> Northeast Asians.

    Many homos are again Jews, Indians and Southeast Asians are now calling themselves “browns” to move up the victimhood totempole, hence the order.

  8. chris says:

    This reminds me of Joe Sobran’s quip, when mandatory holocaust studies were being first proposed for NY schools, Sobran suggested that this would inevitably lead to: … Remedial holocaust studies!

    With this, maybe they’ll finally be able to define an anti-semite as someone scoring below a B+ in the field – we are entering the re-education phase of American history.

    • LOL: Digital Samizdat
  9. From my Ph. D. research and seeing survivors with tattoos I am convinced that the Nazi regime did engage in exterminations, but I know that Jewish people were not the only targets. The actual number exterminated is open to interpretation, but a great many were obviously exterminated. Proof that something happened can be seen in comparisons of the ethnic makeup of territories before and after Nazi occupation. Over 3 Million Soviet POW’s were also liquidated in Nazi camps and hundreds of thousands of other non-Jewish people were also liquidated.

    I agree with Dr. Giraldi that these historical incidents, factual or exaggerated, have been exploited to create “get out of jail free cards” for Israeli actions that too closely resemble proven Nazi crimes. Gaza is a sort of ghetto-concentration camp reminiscent of documented Nazi crimes in Poland and elsewhere. Whatever the extent the facts fully support the received view, I agree with the implication that feelings of guilt for Nazi excesses were central to the creation of Israel and think that the Finkelstein book mentioned is a valuable corrective.

    I also find it outrageous that any sort of questioning or revisionism is considered taboo despite the traditional existence of constitutional guarantees of free speech, which have been seriously curtailed in recent years. I also deplore identity politics and forced political correctness, recalling George Carlin’s view that political correctness was nothing more than polite fascism As for Dr. Latson, he obviously made a serious mistake in the present environment and in the context of events at his school, and I am sure he will be sacked. If traditional rule of law still obtained he would probably be able to continue on as a teacher, but, recalling my studies of the rise of fascism, a new version of it appears to have gradually developed in the “west” during the last 30 years or so.

  10. Wally says:

    – The completely unproven, laughably contrived “holocaust” narrative is not only a huge scam for cash & power, it is simply impossible. It’s propaganda that is no more believable than witchcraft. In fact, the ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are nothing more than an oppressive, mandated religion.

    – Science, rational thought, and logic simply & easily demolish the “holocau$t’ Big Lie”.
    It’s no contest in debate. And that’s why there are Thought Crime Laws that imprison those who engage in free speech about it in Europe. That’s why we are seeing increasing, but ultimately futile, attempts to silence all free speech about it in the US and elsewhere. Only Lies Require Censorship.

    – Come and voice your views, defend the ridiculous, fabricated story line if you think you can, or simply post questions, challenges to Revisionist research. Revisionists welcome free speech, Zionist do not. No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com Much more at: http://codoh.com

    “Holocaust” Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @Parfois1
  11. @Anonymous

    You got it wrong. Women—affluent white women, specifically—crowd the top of the totem pole of grievances along with the Jews. The casual reader of the major periodicals in English, Spanish, French, and German are lead to believe on a daily basis that no being suffers more on this miserable bitch of an Earth than women. Arguably, Latin American and European media are even more zealously fourth-wave feminist than many of the major Anglo-American outlets. And the contagion is quickly spreading to East Asia.

    For example:

    http://www.asahi.com/sp/ajw/articles/AJ201907110001.html

    And here in the US, affluent white women have remarkably (and without any dissent) positioned themselves not only as the ne plus ultra of historical victimhood, but have effectively declared themselves honorary “POC”, presenting themselves as the spokesfigures for the world’s huddled masses of the dusky and “oppressed”.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  12. @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    Red Cross had boots on the ground, said 270K.

    55 MILLION non-jews died in that war, and you never hear about that.

    There was never any order given to kill jews. The jews that died mostly died from typhus and starvation.

    The “holocaust” isn’t mentioned in the jewish encyclopedia of the time. Also, none of the world leaders of that time period mention anything about a “holocaust” in any of their autobiographies.

    Finkelstein says that “The Holocaust” was actually invented around 1967 to provide support for Israel in fighting its’ Arab neighbors.

    The “holocaust” is essentially a marketing tool to shield the jews and Israel, and to shame the dumb goyim into allowing themselves to be destroyed.

  13. The mass persecution of European Jews by the Nazi regime during the Second World War is an established historical fact. Its origins, its actual scope, extent, methods, parameters and motivating factors are all questions properly explored by scholars and historians, not by activists. Many of these issues have taken a plausibly reliable shape (e.g. historians are reliably certain that killer whales were not used to murder Jews), but some have not. History is a long and patient enterprise.

    Proper, accurate historical scholarship on matters of this magnitude is never fully settled, and certainly not in the space of a single human lifetime; scholars to this day are still exploring new information regarding such distant events as the Thirty Years War and the Old Kingdom of pharaonic Egypt. To close the book permanently on the exploration of an event like the Jewish Persecution, and declare that “the history is settled” on a scale so recent that there are still living participants, is an act of scholarly abuse so egregious as to constitute a crime of omission against Truth itself.

    The fact that it has become literally a crime in many countries to honestly explore these issues in a scholarly context is evidence of “mens rea”, consciousness of guilt, on the part of those activists who seek to shut down good-faith discussion and exploit the event for personal and group gain. What do they fear will be discovered? What do they fear to lose by such discoveries?

    Furthermore, labeling this Jewish Persecution Event with the mystical, quasi-religious grand title of “the Holocaust” (or, the “Shoah”) is in fact a racist act of cultural appropriation, and a theft of historical place. It sacralizes and valorizes a single particular historical catastrophe, which took place among many, many such catastrophes, within the context of the largest war in human history, a war which involved participants on FOUR continents.

    The label “Holocaust” is racist propaganda, designed to put the Jewish Persecution at the center of world history, to elevate a single grim historical tragedy well above many other such tragedies, equally deserving of historical attention, and many of them far more deserving. It strongly implies that the suffering of the Jewish people is somehow mystically more important than the suffering of other people’s; it strongly evokes the notion that Jewish lives are somehow more valuable than the lives of other peoples.

    Finally, this notion that Jewish lives are more valuable than the lives of non-Jews, is in fact a codified Jewish religious belief, well-attested in voluminous citations of Jewish scriptures and Jewish hermeneutical texts. It is not a uniform canonical belief, but it is so widespread among learned doctors of Jewish dogma that it can with confidence be considered a valid and well-known “Jewish religious belief”.

    Therefore, any law passed by Congress mandating special enforced education practices regarding the Holocaust as an event of somehow uniquely elevated importance would be a law expressing government preference in religious faith, and as such is null and void under the First Amendment.

  14. “One third of the holocaust” by Jewish Historian David Cole. And excellent piece of research.
    https://archive.org/details/OneThirdOfTheHolocaustHDVideoHQSound

    This version seems to be fairly original (dated 2006). Beware! There is a new propaganda remake video circulating, nothing like the original.

  15. Has there ever in history been a generation of gentiles so deluded, debased, and manipulated
    as ours? Or so cravenly cowardly. I include myself in that.

    But I get a sense that the Tribe may be going over the top. They appear to be desperate to ram this Holocaust narrative down our collective throats. I wonder if they are arousing more suspicions
    than if they just gradually fed us the line as they used to do.

    • Replies: @Cleburne
  16. @Anthony Aaron

    He should claim to be a victim of anti-Black racism by the Jews and mention The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews and he should insist that relationship be taught in schools.

  17. Leslie says:

    For those who are not Americans but who have a good grasp of history, this is an amusing point in history, watching the Israelis drawing the Americans into another Jewish disaster brought about by their ongoing arrogance.

  18. Biff says:

    When I read the title the first person that popped into my head was Norman Finklestein, who rightly calls the holocaust an industry, not an official category of history, since the reason it is taught in schools has more of a monetary(think power) value than a historical one. “Industry”

    At best it is a controversy, with non-verifible facts and events. It’s probably closer to a religion than a game of football with a real score. But that’s life – Bullshit still rules the field. How about some real Bullshit for your kid.

  19. @Anonymous

    Yes indeed, the victimhood totempole exists and I think you are right to point this out. However, there is more overlap than just Jews and homos: Jews and women (vociferous Jewesses are very numerous), homos and women, women and any of the other categories, illegals and any other category, and so on.

    In the end, the totempole serves the interests of the state, since it keeps the population divided (divide and rule, remember) into mutually antagonistic groups. The state itself was the first to initiate this unfortunate categorization, requiring everyone when filling out official documents, to tick the appropriate category: White, African-American (or whatever the current politically correct term is), Hispanic, Hispanic non-white, Native American, Pacific islander, Aleut, Asian etc. I have always found this insulting, derogatory, humiliating and reminiscent of nazi-Germany.

    Philip Giraldi’s article and all other articles like it, indicate the US has gone full-blown nazi. By the way, this often occurs in history: in the end, the victor always adopts the ways and ideas of the vanquished. That is why it is so important to pick one’s battles. That is also why the Chinese are so superior: they always try to avoid open conflict and in doing so have preserved their collective identity.

  20. It is now being asserted that the descendants of so-called holocaust survivors have been genetically psychologically damaged, in the womb as it were, so reparations will presumably continue forever.

    Interesting. This is basically Lysenkoism, i.e. Lamarckism.

    • Replies: @dimples
  21. Vojkan says:

    And they wonder why they’re loathed. Or don’t they? Maybe they want to be loathed. Maybe inciting abhorrence fuels their sentiment of omnipotence. You never know what’s truly in the mind of mythomaniacs.

  22. eah says:

    Teaching Indoctrinating Holocaust

    Fixed it.

  23. It’s nice to watch the Imperialist States of Amerikastan destroy its future by, among other things, dumbing itself down. Nobody needs to risk nuclear war to save the planet from Amerikastan if it’s going to make its brats too uninformed and stupid to pose a threat to anyone.

  24. @Rational

    “Everyone knows the Holocaust is a hoax”.

    Everyone knows no such thing, any more than everyone knows that the official account of the Holocaust is the truth. Since actual historical and scientific research of the episode is verboten, all we have is claims on all sides.

  25. Richard B says:
    @Anonymous

    And yet Antifa remains White. Or “White.” Now we know why they really wear masks.

    Or, as Totie Fields said to Gene Simmons of Kiss on The Mike Douglas Show in 1974 when he appeared in full Kiss make-up,”Ya can’t hide the hook.”

  26. A high school principal identified as Dr. Willian Latson was removed from his position after he revealed to a parent that he considered the holocaust to be a belief and not a demonstrated fact. According to statement made by the school district, the action was taken “out of an abundance of concern” for students and staff after Latson had “made a grave error in judgment.” It added that “In addition to being offensive, the principal’s statement is not supported by either the School District Administration or the School Board.”

    Ka-ching!

    Exhibit 1 for the plaintiff in his suit for defamation and wrongful constructive termination.

  27. Richard B says:
    @Anthony Aaron

    I’d rewrite your comment thus:

    Dr. William Larson made several important things … all of them really heroic and inspiring: (a) he didn’t kiss enough jewish a$$; (b) he tried to actually defend himself against the full might and power of the adl and the rest of the jewish mob in Florida; (c) this is the most unforgivable — he’s black … in a ‘heavily jewish district.’

    • Replies: @Anthony Aaron
  28. Where are the museums and courses in Florida schools discussing the mass killing that happened on our own shores, the genocide of the native Americans?

    I don’t know about Florida’s school curriculum, though I’d be surprised if the schools did not give it significant coverage, but the NPS has no shortage of museum exhibits dedicated to this subject.

    f”The Never Again Education Act”

    So, now we have NEEA-Nazis?

  29. Richard B says:

    “The ADL stated that “The ADL had hoped his apology was sincere and Latson could learn from his mistakes. Given that he cannot take responsibility for his actions, Latson should resign, and if not we believe the district should end his employment.”

    When have jews ever apologized for anything?

    When have jews ever taken responsibility for their actions?

    “The two state officials, Senator Kevin Rader and Representative Tina Polsky issued a statement saying “By his latest email, Dr. Latson has shown no remorse for his actions and we call on the district to immediately terminate him.””

    When have jews ever shown remose?

    “The publication of Latson’s comments also unleashed heavy criticism from a broad range of other Florida public officials. Governor Ron DeSantis, who calls himself the most pro-Israel governor in American, joined in with “Look, to act like the Holocaust is a matter of debate, I mean, is just absurd.””

    The fact that they can not see that FORCING the study of an histoircal evidence is self-discrediting is yet more proof of how insane and dangerou they are to everyone they come into contact with.

    Any country that bows before the alter of Jewish Supremacy Inc. is doomed.

    So why do it?

    The only answer is that such people have lost the will to live.

    But not everyone has.

    • Replies: @Richard B
    , @Sic Semper
  30. Richard B says:
    @Richard B

    “historical evidence” should be “historical event”

  31. Art says:

    What no Lot – 7 comments into another great PG article – and no arrogant Jewber Lot screed – you sick boy?

    Please get well — Art

  32. Richard B says:
    @Rational

    “The school is evil ordering teachers to teach hoaxes.”

    The school itself is being forced by an even greater evil.

    An evil that has the power to effectuate its insane demands to be placed above criticism, loved unconditionally and blindly obeyed.

    So much for “White Supremacy.”

  33. @renfro

    The NAACP is a Jewish organization. It is used to advance blacks insofar as that advancement undermines whites and increases Jewish power.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan, Bill Jones
    • Replies: @Anon
  34. Richard B says:
    @Anonymous

    Great comment. Sad story about the teacher.

    And to your list we could add the word Dostoyevsky used to describe them, “mericiless.”

    Around the time of Ross’ book there was a study on criminal pathology conducted in the USA in 1911 and it discusses the jewish inclination toward just that, criminal pathology. I regret to say I don’t recall the name of the study. I’m sure it was influential in the 1924 Immigration Act.

    In any event, the rise of Jewish Supremacy Inc. is in direct proportion to the rise of psychopathy in the West.

    For now, their insanity is in full display in demands to be
    1. placed above criticism
    2. loved unconditionally
    3. blindly obeyed

    The fact that they have the power to effecuate these insane demands makes one shudder for the future of our children.

    I think JSI is about to find out that not everyone is keen on being their slaves or sacrifices.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  35. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:

    The Jews started all this stuff with the “Frankfurt School” (started 1923) crap. Every dirty rotten lousy thing going on today is tied to that stinking, “Jew Think Tank” – including the holocaust hoax.

  36. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Palm Beach County is directly adjacent to Broward County, which has a large Borg infestation and never seems to run out of incidents that can be traced back to the Tribe.

    Maybe Americans should do a repeat of those Middle Ages types that went around, flagellating themselves on their backs with whips that contained rusty nails and broken pottery, trying to get the Black Death to vanish, but the modern day ones would be moaning about how bad the Jews have it and it’s our fault that some died during WWII.

    My guess is that even that wouldn’t be enough, unless a check of at least 6 gorillion was included each year to Jews.

  37. @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    Most of those were probably murdered for being communists or other such political undesirables, rather than for their ethnicity as such; another good amount simply died in the closing months of the war because of supply and food shortages, although I do not discount that a fair amount were targeted for their religion or race.

    Two out of three is not bad for a relatively young fellow, especially if you were raised in the the Brainwashed States of America, the Bullshit Capitol of the World. I hope you have sufficient time to follow your inquiries into the truth. Keep reading PG and RU, and you’ll keep making excellent progress.

    In the case of “the Jewish persecution” in Germany I found that impartial presentation of the facts gradually gave way to so partisan a depictment that the truth was lost. This transformation was effected in three subtle stages. First the persecution of “political opponents and Jews” was reported; then this was imperceptibly amended to “Jews and political opponents”; and at the end the press in general spoke only of “the persecution of Jews”. By this means a false image was projected on to the public mind and the plight of the overwhelming majority of the victims, by this fixing of the spotlight on one group, was lost to sight. The result showed in 1945, when, on the one hand, the persecution of Jews was made the subject of a formal indictment at Nuremberg, and on the other hand half of Europe and all the people in it were abandoned to the selfsame persecution, in which the Jews had shared in their small proportion to populations everywhere.

    -Douglas Reed, The Controversy of Zion, page 214-5

    I used to have a link to the book, but now all I get is a 404 message.

  38. “When does the almost incessant pandering to Zionists and Jewish groups become too much for the deliberately kept-in-ignorance American public to tolerate?”

    It became too much decades ago.

    I haven’t seen a more succinct, articulate description of American life under Jewish occupation. Giraldi hits the nail on the head every time.

    • Agree: geokat62
    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  39. Here’s what the Holocaust Industry is so desperate to cover up, the sickening treatment of the indigenous Palestinians by the Israelis–that claim to be Jews–that have invaded Palestine and turned it into a much more deadlier version of Apartheid South Africa:

    Poof! One day in occupation causes young Jews on Zionist tour to question Zionism — ‘NYT’ reports

    We are as critical of the New York Times as anyone, but we need to salute the superb report in the newspaper by David Halbfinger on a liberal Zionist trip for American Jews to see the occupation. Titled, “Touring the Israeli Occupation: Young U.S. Jews Get an Unflinching View,” the July 10 article offered horrifying glimpses of Palestinian conditions in Susiya and Hebron that left the young Jews staggered.

    https://mondoweiss.net/2019/07/occupation-zionist-question/

    Since they toured part of Occupied Hebron, wonder if they visited those streets that have wire and steel barricades over the sidewalks, necessitated by Israelis, living above those streets, that dump chunks of concrete down on the Palestinians passing by?
    But that doesn’t stop the buckets of human waste the kindly Israelis also dump on the Palestinians.

    But hey, to think about that is anti-Semitic. That time should be spent worshiping the most Holy Holocaust, Goyim!

  40. @Rational

    no holocaust of jews happened. It’s all just more jewish trickery. Nothing ever changes with them.

  41. The refusal to bow at the altar of Jewish “victimhood” will soon to be completely criminalized here in the U.S. See:

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2018/10/my-victimhood-is-bigger-than-yours-or.html

  42. @Robert Dolan

    The idea of the Holocaust did exist prior to 1967. However, the Jewish Community applied it to all who died during WWII and not singularly to the Jewish Community itself.

    This changed overnight, as you stated, with Israel’s 6 Day War…

    • Replies: @mark green
  43. @Richard B

    The Jewish establishment and the various foreigners aren’t really the problem. WW I and WW II stunned the Europeans an European descendants, who have had a sort of PTSD for a three generations now. _That’s_ the problem.
    R. Unz’s article [1] shows that, had solidly Republican California simply arrested a few people (and continued to arrest their replacements) it could have saved itself. The people were not arrested because nobody cared. Politics had already become a game, played by professionals, of being elected rather than a constant and precarious effort to keep civilization (or at least Republican California) alive. The civil population at the time had no interest in politics and was badly frightened by the prospect of yet another central war, this time fought with nuclear weapons. [2]

    The fourth generation seems to be recovering enough to defend itself, if only because the choice is that or life on gradually diminishing welfare.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] R. Unz
    “American Pravda: The Power of Organized Crime”.
    First posted 2019/07/15.
    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-power-of-organized-crime/

    2] Although i seem to remember, from _Only yesterday_, that in the 1920s the frequent moving from one neighborhood to another made neighborhoods hard for anybody “organize” politically, and that the California populace could be lured to vote by presenting political contests as a horse race (X lead’s by a nose! Now Y is moving up in the final stretch! And .. . . It’s Seabiscuit!”. Watching a human horesrace is not the same as protecting your civilization, as the Californians (and now the Americans) have found out.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  44. onebornfree says: • Website

    P. Giraldi says: “Well, when does it end? When does the almost incessant pandering to Zionists and Jewish groups become too much for the deliberately kept-in-ignorance American public to tolerate?”

    It’s not going to end as long as the current, enforced at-the-point-of-a-gun government run “educational” system exists.

    Reality fact:

    Parents with different ideas about historical facts [or science “facts”, or religious “facts”] who are being forced at-the-point-of- a-gun [via taxes] to pay for childrens “education” will naturally try to enforce their ideas about what is true/not true historically. scientifically and religion wise, after all, they want their “moneys worth” , and because , its usually about their very own childrens education!

    Reality fact:

    If you want government run public “education”, different factions will always compete and try to gain control to try to force everyone else to go along with their own “proper” education agenda. Continual conflict over teaching curicula is absolutely inevitable! Guaranteed!

    This is the ultimate price you must pay for the scam called government run/funded “education”.

    Solution: end government run “education”. Get the government entirely out of all “education”, from kindergarten through to university and beyond, so that parents can choose and be fully responsible for what type of education their child receives, and persons who have no children are not forced to subsidize the “education” of other peoples children.

    Regards, onebornfree

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
    , @Alden
  45. What is lacking ,what i do not understand ,is the no reaction of the victims,the gentiles.
    Whatever half of the explanation of this takeover could be,the other half is the no reaction of the victims.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  46. Zumbuddi says:
    @exiled off mainstreet

    The PhD has to be in something rigorous, like gender studies.
    If an aeronautics engineer said “from seeing survivor tattoos I am convinced the Nazi regime did engage in exterminations, ” he/she would be disqualified from folding paper airplanes.

    . . and the repeated use of “exterminations” — why that word? Did Germans seek out 3 m. Soviet soldiers as if they were the Terminex man fumigating a rat-infested slum? Or did Stalin send ill-equiped, untrained & poorly fed troops who surrendered in such large numbers that there was no way to cope with them?

    Didn’t read past the 3rd “exterminate.”

    • Agree: OEMIKITLOB, L.K
    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  47. Cowboy [AKA "Kartoffelstampfer"] says:

    If we ever manage to unravel the entire Epstein horror story, with certainty we will see connections between politicians, “scholars” and “intellectuals” pushing all this holohoax baloney and ritual child sacrifice. If.

    The Noahide laws are the real overlying wrapper for these holohoax temples, and “when jews are strong” and they are fully enforced, they will call for death by gillotine for Idolatry (believing in Christ) and for “antisemitism”. Stalin and Lenin enforced the death penalty for antisemitism in the USSR as well.

    Noahide laws were passed and signed by Pedo Bush Sr. in 1991.

    • Replies: @Parfois1
  48. @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    To secede any ground to your mortal enemy is your first mistake.

    The “holocaust” was six NY jews who got stale bagels in 1930 and worked feverishly to exploit their plight. Nearly 90 years later this work of fiction continues to grow. In short order the “Borscht Belt” will be historically revisionisted into the American Death Camps of NY where 800 Million jews were imprisoned, murdered and made into leather goods for goyim households.

  49. He should definitely sue. Nowhere has he exhibited “antiSemitism” or harming or even disliking Jews as a people. It is a tag that does great damage and he should sue, as the Colorado couple who successfully sued the Jew neighbors for pulling that some years ago. The judgement got very little media attention.

  50. @Richard B

    Why hasn’t Senator Kevin Rader and Representative Tina Polsky apologized for the enslaving Christian Spain, exterminating the Christians at Mamilla (and their building a Israeli parking lot over the desecrated mass grave of their victims), the barbarous torture and extermination of 100 Million Native European Christians, the ongoing torturous genocide of the Palestinian People and the destruction of Native European Homelands and persecutions of the worldwide Native European populations?

    Until they issue believable heart felt apologies, no one should take serious study of the six NY jews who received stale bagels in 1930 that exploited their plight into the multi-trillion dollar holocaust fraud industry.

    • Agree: annamaria
  51. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Furthermore, labeling this Jewish Persecution Event with the mystical, quasi-religious grand title of “the Holocaust” (or, the “Shoah”) is in fact a racist act of cultural appropriation, and a theft of historical place.

    I’ll say! Did you know that the very word ‘holocaust’ was first coined in 1944 to describe the effects of the incendiary bombs that the allies dropped on the Germans during the war? That’s right: ‘holocaust’ originally referred to a war crime committed against the Germans, not by them. Even well into the 60s, when the word was used, it was usually used with reference the ever-present threat of nuclear war–the so-called nuclear holocaust. It wasn’t really until the 70s–a full generation after the war–that the word acquired its present meaning, completely displacing the older ones.

    Strange, eh?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Historicus
  52. @exiled off mainstreet

    What do Tattoos have to do with exterminating people? How would tattoos convince a Ph.D. Of anything?

    And in case it never occurred to you, many Jews fled to the Soviet Union, America, South America, and other places. So comparisons of ethnic make up are not significant in any way.

    And where is the evidence for these “liquidated” POW’s and Jews? Did the mean, wicked Nazi’s turn them into liquid and pour them into the Bug River?

    Or perhaps their bodies were all dug up, bone grinded, and set onto Jew roasters with their ashes tossed into the air by the Ash Commander, as Leon Wells explained at the Eichmann trial?

    http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/e/eichmann-adolf/transcripts/Sessions/Session-023-02.html

    • Replies: @Wally
  53. dimples says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Yes the inheritance of acquired characteristics is considered to be a massive scientific heresy. If the experiment is repeatable it would blow modern genetics wide open. If the Krauts have any brains they’d be asking for a lot more more evidence before paying out on that one.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  54. Miggle says:

    The state of affairs that provided cover for the “Holocaust” was a wonderful gift the Nazis gave. It allowed the truth at last to be told about the Chmielnitsy rebellion. It was time to admit, for Jews to admit, that the number of Jews killed was less than a tenth of the number previously said to have been killed. And further, when a town with a 99 percent Jewish population was overrun by the Cossacks and the peasants, the Jews were left unharmed because they were simply merchants, had not been involved in the oppression of the peasants. Jewish towns overrun and left unharmed. This truth could be told now because there was a more delicious story to tell. Chmielnitsy was rendered obsolete by its successor, the “Holocaust”.

  55. Cleburne says:
    @Achilles Wannabe

    But I get a sense that the Tribe may be going over the top. They appear to be desperate to ram this Holocaust narrative down our collective throats.

    I believe you’re on to something here. there is a Holocaust museum in a large Southern city near me. Recently there’s been a blitz, so to speak, of billboards and teevee ads encouraging all and sundry to attend to learn about the baleful consequences of ‘hate.”

    Why now? Because their POC pets are turning on (((them)))? because they have internal polling showing people are noticing epstein/weinstein/et cetera? resistance to the Iran war noises? It’s all very odd.

  56. Saggy says: • Website

    This video ….



    begins –

    The holocaust is a preposterous hoax that is unsupported by any physical evidence. It is made up of literally millions of lies, but it all rests on one ‘big lie’.

    The hoax has three main components –
    1. The Nazis planned to exterminate the Jews.
    2. The Nazis built gas chambers to exterminate the Jews and disguised them as shower rooms.
    3. The Nazis killed six million Jews.

    Each component of the hoax is categorically false and completely without evidence.
    1. There was no Nazi plan to exterminate the Jews or anyone else, and no evidence of one has ever been found.
    2. The gas chambers disguised as shower rooms are pure phantasmagoria, and there is not a shred of physical evidence for them.
    3. The number of Jews killed in the camps for being Jews is zero, and it is well documented that the Nazis aggressively investigate any crime in the camps.

    That is the hoax, and the reality

    The big lie is the photos and film footage that are shown of Jewish prisoners who had been gassed by the Nazis. The truth is that all the photos and film were taken after the war by British and US soldiers, and showed prisoners of all nationalities and religions who had died of tyhpus at the very last weeks of the war, primarily at Belsen where 35,000 died, 10,000 after the camp had been liberated by the British. Further, the Nazis had done everything in their power to combat the epidemic.

    The video documents all the above. To understand the holohoax you must study it.

    • Agree: Zumbuddi
  57. Hans says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    It’s available here, Jacques – https://www.controversyofzion.info/Controversybook/reeedcontrov.pdf

    One of the great books.

    This is a good one and a good template for any of the other Tribe-driven issues tearing down the West:

  58. @exiled off mainstreet

    From my Ph. D. research and seeing survivors with tattoos I am convinced that the Nazi regime did engage in exterminations

    So encountering an old woman with a number tattoo proves Nazis exterminated Jews? Not that there were prisoners of war, but that Jews were systematically slaughtered?

    Wow, there’s a logical leap of faith …

    As far as Ph.D. research, I’m not sure it has the cachet you think it does.

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
    • LOL: Saggy
  59. Honesty says:

    @giraldi

    Sir, foxnews is reporting that the fake passport recovered in Epstein’s locker places him as a resident of Saudi Arabia – and that is from the 80’s. What is going on here? This is so weird (and scary). How much of penetration we have from foreign groups in USA, for how long, and why are our politicians not being safeguarded from their influence? Are our intelligence agencies trying to stop that influence? I think this new revelation deserves another article from you. Thank you.

    • Replies: @Art
  60. Jake says:

    Judaizing heresy not identified and refuted and stopped, rejected thoroughly, leads directly to a world like this one.

    Anglo-Zionist Empire.

    Anglo-Saxon Puritanism was a Judaizing heresy. WASP culture is the product of a Judaizing heresy. The British Empire took the secularist form of that Judaizing heresy and planted ir across the globe.

    Anglo-Zionist Empire – your Big Brother

  61. JohnnyD says:

    With all due respect, I think Norman Finkelstein’s.views are being distorted in this article. Finkelstein never questions whether or not the Holocaust occurred. Indeed, he promotes the work of Raul Hillberg, who Finkelstein views as a serious scholar. Also, he always states that the suffering of his parents in the Holocaust is what motivates him to defend the rights of Palestinians. Finkelstein does indeed go after Jewish groups and the State of Israel for using the Holocaust as an idelogical weapon, and he does attack Ellie Weisel as a fraud and hyoprite, but he has never questioned the standard narrative that a systematic extermination of European Jewry occurred during World War II.

  62. Yet another controversy, and this will spur yet more fruitless debate. It’s endless.

    I’m really starting to wish the Holocaust never happened.

  63. Robjil says:

    “The Never Again Education Act” is the exact same thing as a “The Santa Claus Education Act”. One only has only to believe, no inquiry allowed.

    ” The Again and Again Wars for Jewish Zionist Advisor Act” has been put in action endlessly in the past hundred years. The earth is crying out in pain from from this world wide destruction.

    ” Seven Nations to destroy” is the latest war plan for the most persecuted people on planet earth.

    ” The Never Again promotion of Wars by Jewish/Zionist Advisors Act” is what the world needs.

    WWI was for the Balfour. Zionist Jewish Advisors were at the top of both the British and American governments promoting WWI.

    WWII was for Israel. Zionist Jewish Advisors were at the top of both the British and American governments promoting WWII.

    Jewish Zionist Oligarchs world wide promoted the Bolshevik take over Russia.

    If anything like the big 6 happened, the blame should go at the Jewish/Zionist Advisors that created the conditions for it by promoting two massive world wars.

    Will “The Never Again promotion of War by Jewish/Zionist Advisors Act” ever be passed? Now that is a bill that should be passed. Climate Change is peanuts compared to war promotion by Jewish/Zionist Advisors.

  64. @exiled off mainstreet

    Over 3 Million Soviet POW’s were also liquidated in Nazi camps and hundreds of thousands of other non-Jewish people were also liquidated.

    Only if by “liquidated” you mean died of starvation and disease because food and medical care were inadequate. German logistics in the winter of 1941 were famously a nightmare: if the Wehrmacht couldn’t even supply their own troops with adequate winter gear, it’s no surprise EPWs fared worse. Though the number of victims you cite is too high. It comes ultimately from the book Keine Kameraden by one Christian Streit, who is often quoted uncritically by mainstream historians who won’t (or can’t, if they don’t read German) check how he actually derived his figures. In fact, he inflates them quite a bit.

    Even so, many hundreds of thousands did die. And this, of course, is still a real tragedy. But it was not an intentional genocide, any more than the starvation of even more millions of Germans and Japanese by the Allies after the war. And the Allies didn’t have the excuse that they were fighting history’s biggest land war while their victims starved in peacetime. See the convincing studies by Alfred De Zayas, most of which have been translated to English, and Stalin’s War of Annihilation by Joachim Hoffmann, which our host Ron Unz mentions in his American Pravda series.

  65. The nazis killed millions of not only Jews but Christians and political opponents and in regards to the Jews , the elite Jews helped the nazis kill the Jews to further their goal of a zionist homeland and a case in point is George Soros , who at the age of 14 lived with the nazi commander of Budapest who was in charge of rounding up Jews to be shipped to the death camps, and Soros went with the nazis and pointed out the Jews for the nazis, this is a fact.

    • Replies: @Nonny
  66. @Hans Vogel

    I have always found this [demographic categorization] insulting, derogatory, humiliating and reminiscent of nazi-Germany.

    YMMV, but I personally think we should drill down even deeper, e.g. how many Jews? That’d drive ’em nuts, since it’s literally against their religion to count a Jew. And it would finally put to bed this 2% nonsense.

    Not to mention the current census controversy over how many illegals constitute congressional redistricting.

    the US has gone full-blown nazi

    For more than a few of us, that’s our prayer.

  67. Wally says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Nope.

    In spite of bans on free speech, which proves that the story is a fraud, rational, scientific Revisionist research has demolished the claims. I mean, that fact IS the reason that free speech on the subject is banned. The absurd narrative does not hold up.

    Try me & see.

    Also see my comment #10.

    Thanks.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  68. Can you say dumb? I have beliefs similar to most of the people in this forum, but I would know better than to allow them to appear under my real name, let alone in professional correspondence! You could also be jailed in much of Europe based on such information. Probably also banned from the schengen zone.

    There are other pieces of forbidden thought and discussion, such as race and IQ. I bet Mr Latson would support those orthodoxies.

  69. @exiled off mainstreet

    From my Ph. D. research and seeing survivors with tattoos I am convinced that the Nazi regime did engage in exterminations

    Seeing survivors is evidence of extermination. Maybe we have different definitions of the words “survive” and “exterminate”.

  70. Saggy says: • Website
    @JohnnyD

    Finklestein’s story is one of the most remarkable ….. from this video ….
    Norm Finkelstein, at U of Waterloo

    My father was in Auschwitz
    My mother was in Majdanek
    Every single member of my family, on my father’s side and on my mother’s side, was exterminated.

    Why is the story remarkable? Finklestein was born in 1953 !

    • Replies: @JohnnyD
    , @Wally
  71. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    historians are reliably certain that killer whales were not used to murder Jews

    I would advise people not to publicly say this. Just in case it could get them in trouble. You never know.

    • Replies: @Pontius
  72. Wally says:
    @Genrick Yagoda

    Indeed.
    It’s claimed that millions upon millions of human remain exists in allegedly known locations, yet those remain are not there.

    Remember, the claim is “6,000,000 Jews & 5,000,000 others”. That alleged 11,000,000 is equal to the city of London.

    The “Holocau$t Industry” in court:

    ‘Please your honor, there really are remains of millions upon millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, but, but, well, umm, we can’t show the court the human remains. You must trust us, we’re Zionists.’

    recommended:
    The Rudolf Report / Expert Report on Chemical and Technical Aspects of the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz
    http://vho.org/GB/Books/trr/index.html

  73. @Zumbuddi

    If an aeronautics engineer said “from seeing survivor tattoos I am convinced the Nazi regime did engage in exterminations, ” he/she would be disqualified from folding paper airplanes.

    That piece of “logic” really got my attention as well. I’ll be shaking my head over that for quite a while.

    PhD my tusch. Heaven help us!

  74. “… if the current trend to reduce the study of history in schools to easily digestible politically correct soundbites that are being successfully pushed by social justice warriors continues, we will soon be limited to discussing how horrible slavery was, the Stonewall Inn riots and the so-called holocaust. ”

    You forgot Rosa Parks.

  75. @John Regan

    I guess the “PhD” never knew about the Brit starvation blockades that continued for some time after the fighting stopped, but with the logic displayed above, I doubt even knowing the facts would lead to valid conclusions.

    And here we are, with nearly a century of hindsight available!

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  76. Truth3 says:
    @exiled off mainstreet

    What an idiot.

    Tattoos are not placed on people for any other reason than to identify them, if they are incarcerated. You don’t tattoo them if you intend to kill them.

    The only ones that “exterminated” Soviet POW’s were the Jewish NKVD when they returned home.

    The so-called HC can’t withstand scientific or logical scrutiny, so these things are criminalized.

  77. @Hans

    Thanks, Hans.

    I wonder how long it’ll take for that link to get fried!

    Filthy sob’s!

  78. @HolocaustPropagandaSurvivor

    Giraldi hits the nail on the head every time.

    True, and I’m grateful for his persistent hammering. Great stuff.

    • Agree: kikz
  79. @onebornfree

    It’s not going to end as long as the current, enforced at-the-point-of-a-gun government run “educational” system exists.

    It’s worse than that. It won’t end until people understand that government is not the messiah, but that will never end because, well, “muh roads!”

    Few stop to think beyond dem roadz; my response to “who’ll bild dem roadz?” is to ask who’ll bomb the children?

  80. Sparkon says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    … claims on all sides.

    It is the responsibility of the party making the claim to provide the proof.

    Nobody can prove a negative.

    Show us the bones.

  81. The “Never Again” program means that whitey will never again have any power whatsoever, and that jews will rule over humanity forever.

    That is the jewish final solution to white people.

    The nose is destroying all of Christendom to render the world “holocaust-proof” and user friendly for the jewish tribe.

    Yes, it’s insane.

    They are batshit crazy for sure.

    To make matters even worse, they fancy that GOD wants them to do this.

    It’s a bad horror film that we live in.

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @anonymous
  82. Richard B says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    “The Jewish establishment and the various foreigners aren’t really the problem. ”

    Once again, we have the attempt to place Jewish Supremacy Inc. above criticism.

    “WW I and WW II stunned the Europeans an European descendants, who have had a sort of PTSD for a three generations now. _That’s_ the problem.”

    It’s no coincidence that the denial in the first sentence is followed by an impossible to prove statement in the second sentence.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  83. @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    My belief is that 2.5 million Jews were killed by the Nazis, whatever the cause. This could still be described as a holocaust. Also, I do agree that there are some issues with the capital “H” Holocaust. Still, there is entirely too much time and energy spent on the subject. There are far more pressing issues these days….

  84. Richard B says:
    @Sic Semper

    “Until they issue believable heart felt apologies, no one should take serious study of the six NY jews who received stale bagels in 1930 that exploited their plight into the multi-trillion dollar holocaust fraud industry.”

    Absolutely!

    But, of course, it’ll never happen.

    I just watched a great short video of Tucker Carlson and Peter Thiel talking about Chinese infiltration at Google.

    To me, the Chinese didn’t infiltrate, they were invited.

    As far as can tell the Chinese and Jewish Supremacy Inc. are pretty much dividing the world up between them.

    The enforced Holocaust studies and “Antisemitism” laws are a part of their power grab.

    Yet another reason not to take their condemnation of us seriously.

    But what we should take seriously is their power grab.

    • Replies: @Jake
  85. Agent76 says:

    09/22/2016 Indoctrination: 35 Years of the US Department of Education

    Since 1980, during the Carter Administration, America’s K-12 education system has come under increasing control by the dictates of the federal Department of Education (DOE) with failing results, taxing states and filtering the money through Washington to return a portion of it back to the states.

    https://mises.org/wire/indoctrination-35-years-us-department-education

    Mar 10, 2014 Department of Education whistleblower Charlette Iserbyt about the deliberate dumbing down of America.

    The former US Department of Education Senior Policy Advisor suggests that the our educational system is not based upon children learning.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  86. @Jacques Sheete

    Hey Bro Jacques!

    Am interested how the ZUS Department of Education handles the public school teaching of the abominable 9/11 event & the W. Bush administration’s pursuant blame attached to al-Qaeda OBL & suicidal hijackers.

    Maybe you are too? If so, please refer to the interesting article, linked below.

    https://www.ewa.org/blog-educated-reporter/how-are-schools-teaching-911

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  87. @John Regan

    3 Million Soviet POW’s

    Number of POWs captured…estimated. Number of POWs at end of war…estimated. Difference of the two estimations = estimated deaths.

    Consider that Russian soldiers could “tear off their insignia and desert”* and assume the identity of a civilian rather then surrender to the Germans and go to a POW camp. This would reduce the number of estimated prisoners taken.

    Also, imagine a Soviet POW at the end of the war. He is released and must be processed by the Allied occupation authorities.

    He has two choices:

    1. Tell the truth.
    Say he is a captured Russian soldier so he can be repatriated to the Soviet Union as a soldier who surrendered to the enemy*.

    2. Lie.
    Pretend to be something else other than a Russian soldier and have a chance to escape to the West. In this case, he may even get help from sympathetic German guards to forge a false identity. He could also escape from the camp in all the chaos and pretend to be a homeless civilian. This would reduce the number of apparent Soviet POWs at the end of the war.

    [MORE]

    * Order No. 270

    I ORDER:

    That commanders and political officers who, during combat tear off their insignia and desert to the rear or surrender to the enemy, be considered malicious deserters whose families are subject to arrest as a family, for violation of an oath and betrayal of their homeland.

    All higher commanders and commissars are required to shoot on the spot any such deserters from among command personnel.

    Encircled units and formations to selflessly fight to the last, to protect materiel like the apple of their eye, to break through from the rear of enemy troops, defeating the fascist dogs.

    That every soldier is obliged, regardless of his or her position, to demand that their superiors, if part of their unit is surrounded, to fight to the end, to break through, and if a superior or a unit of the Red Army – instead of organizing resistance to the enemy – prefers to become a prisoner they should be destroyed by all means possible on land and air, and their families deprived of public benefits and assistance.

    • Replies: @John Regan
  88. turtle says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    quasi-religious

    The principal’s “crime” appears to be: heresy.
    Time to get religion out of the public schools.

    • Agree: NoseytheDuke
  89. lysias says:

    I don’t use the word “holocaust” for the Nazis’ mass murder of Jews, as that use of the word apparently has some esoteric theological significance that, far from sharing, I do not even understand. For me, as a student of Greek, the word refers to a wholly burnt sacrificial offering. What does that have to do with mass murder? If the underlying thought is that the mudered victims somehow represented a sacrifice offered to God, isn’t that line of thought blaspemous?

  90. Well said, Mr. Giraldi. Keep it coming.

    Every “industry” finds its origins in the government-run schools. This has always been the case. The battleground is always for the mind and to take captive or subjugate thoughts and what better place to begin the process than in the minds of pliable, immature youth? I am only paraphrasing here from poor memory but haven’t Catholics always had a catechism that went something like “Give us your child for the first 7 years and we’ll have him for life.”? They well understand the vital import of the concept of the mind and thoughts in an individual.

    Americans should have abolished government from having any say in their educational system long ago, imho. I firmly believe many of the current dilemmas Americans face here in America would be non-existent to minimal had we done so. Turning generations of children over to this institution was the beginning of much of what we see and experience today, it’s just been a long, slow process. Oh, and we foot the bill for our own destruction, too. Pretty slick.

    OT, but I just posted this today in a discussion in a very small-town paper and screen-shot it just in case:

    “Thank you, Dave. As a native Ohioan I care about the people of it and my country of birth. Other than a morbid fascination with politics I don’t care for them and certainly not partisan politics.

    As a reasonably intelligent human being I am looking around and questioning who is benefitting from the destruction of my heritage, culture, homeland, its institutions and its economy and I am coming to the conclusion that it is the Zionist Jews and their paid lackeys and supporters, including many in the Church. I am aware that this view is controversial but in my view if a proposition is true it can be questioned and assailed vigorously and the truth about it will still be standing. Conversely, the only people who need to be concerned about a proposition being vigorously questioned and debated are those who know it is false or a lie and wish to perpetuate that falsehood for their benefit and I’m sick and tired of it and I’m not going to self-censor my freedom of speech.”

    I changed the name of the man I replied to and kept it simple for the sake of the audience that may read the article it’s attached to but I believed it needed to be said. We’ll see…

  91. lysias says:
    @JayJonahJameson

    I would say that the fact that a public school principal is forced to repeat a line of thought pushed by the state IS a pressing matter.

    By the way, I was recently told by the father of a boy who recently graduated from a public high school in New Jersey that schools there still teach the Warren Commission fiction as historical fact.

  92. turtle says:
    @Nancy Pelosi's Latina Maid

    encountering an old woman with a number tattoo proves Nazis exterminated Jews

    If you are going to kill someone, why waste time tattooing a number on their arm?

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  93. Rurik says:
    @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    Armenian Genocide, for example, as a deliberate race/religion-focused act than there is for the Holocaust. Yet comparatively few peoples or nations seem to care about that event,

    or the Holodomor for that matter.

    But most earnestly, is the Nakba- and ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people, because this genocide is going on *today*.

    And funded and supported by the same execrable scum who demand our school children are brow-beaten for their collective guilt for the ‘Holocaust’. ‘Because genocide is wrong!’

    [Unless its the genocide of people whom Jew do not like; (Whites and Palestinians) then any criticism of that genocide is evil!’ – and ‘terrorists! and ‘white supremacists!’

    Your children must bow down, and pay homage to the holy ‘Holocaust’!

    While in America’s classrooms, all mention of Christmas is banned. Nativity scenes in the public square are banned. Christmas trees and Christmas carols are banned in America’s public schools.

    But ‘Holocaust’ indoctrination is mandatory by law.

    And then to add to the mind-fuck, the same states that mandate ‘Holocaust’ indoctrination, and the ubiquitous ‘Holocaust museums’ with the mantra of Never Again!, are the same states that prohibit any criticism of Israel’s ongoing genocide of the Palestinians.

    So our children are exhorted to consider genocide the worst sin imaginable, because, (they are brow-beaten), it was done by Christians (like them!), against god’s most holy and chosen and sacred people. >>hurl<<

    But now, at the same time. These same children are expected to openly support an on-going genocide, because this is a ‘good’ genocide, because it’s being done against people whom the Jews do not like, you see?

    What does that do to a child’s mind and sense of justice?

    ‘We all must feel incredible guilt and build endless monuments to the most evil crime that has ever occurred, when White Christians (like you! little Johnny), perpetrated the most terrible crime in all of history!’

    >><<

    But at the same time, any criticism of an ongoing genocide, is strictly verboten. (you anti-Semite!)

    And our politicians and public school administrators and school boards all across North America and Europe all go along with this doublethink mind-fuck of their children's souls.

    And why?..

    • Replies: @Rurik
  94. @Sparkon

    You morons seem to imagine that there are two possibilities, and two only:

    1. That there was a Holocaust exactly as described, which killed six million Jews

    Or

    2. There was no such thing at all, and it is all a myth.

    There are any number of possibilities in between, including a deliberate mass murder of less than six million, a mix of deliberate and accidental deaths of less than six million, deliberate deaths of a low number and a relatively high number of accidental deaths, etc. Furthermore, the deliberate deaths could still have been accomplished without gas chambers by simple shooting (such as the Einsatzgruppen did at such sites as Babi Yar). Nor does the absence of “six million skeletons” prove anything either way because there is absolutely no need to accept the six million figure merely on say so, and the idea that skeletons could not simply have been incinerated or bulldozed to fragments can’t be dismissed because there has been no independent research permitted into the matter.

    Meaning both you Holocaust deniers and the Holocaust official story industry are babbling about what you have no proof of either way.

  95. @Richard B

    Agreed … ‘heroic and inspiring’ is better than what I wrote.

    We need to stop this ‘Never Again Education Act’ in its tracks … somehow we failed to stop all of the asinine ‘holocaust’ museums across the US built with taxpayer dollar$. But this is going to be MANDATORY INDOCTRINATION if we don’t stop it … 

  96. Kouros says:

    There shouldn’t be any debate that there is a Holocaust industry that tries to extract perpetual benefits, especially for Israel.

    However, the way we have established that the evolution is a thing, shouldn’t question the millions killed in the concentration camps. I would instead focus on the thoughts and wishes of the survivors, that in their vast majority would decry what is done with their suffering and with the memory of all those gone up in smoke.

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    , @Lazza L
  97. Saggy says: • Website
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Meaning both you Holocaust deniers and the Holocaust official story industry are babbling about what you have no proof of either way.

    You have to study the holohoax, you can’t sit back from afar and make idiotic statements like the above. YOU HAVE TO STUDY THE SUBJECT.

    It is trivially easy to demonstrate the hoax. E.g. Elie Wiesel’s book ‘Night’ … he was in Auschwitz for a year when the Nazis were supposedly killing 10,000 Jews per day in gas chambers disguised as shower rooms, and ‘Night’ describes his experiences. He doesn’t mention gas chambers, he does mention taking a shower several times, purposefully for disinfection. He writes that the Nazis killed the Jews by tossing them alive into burning pits, one for children, one for adults. The first director of the USHMM, a Nobel Prize winner, is an obvious degenerate liar. His lies have the full authority of Yad Vashem and the USHMM. They are all pathological liars and there is proof right there.

  98. @Rational

    1) WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF ANTI-ANTISEMITISM? and WHO has the authority to give it to us.
    Cause as far I know the Arabs, especially the Palestinians, ARE SEMITES.
    Not to mention, how many Palestinian semites are murdered every day by the hands of the Jew semites.

    [MORE]

    2) HOW RACIST, DISCRIMINATORY AND ANTI-AMERICAN, or ANTI-FRENCH, or ANTI-HELLENIC, or ANTI-ITALIAN is, THIS RUSH FROM AMERICAN ELECTED POLITICIANS, TO MAKE LAWS AGAINST THOSE WHO ARE CONCERNED OF THE CRIMINAL ACTS OF ISRAEL and its supporters, which by the way to my knowledge Americans pay them to a tune of billions of American tax dollars every year?
    So, WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? Do I see traces of TREASON?

    3) IT IS AT LEAST IRONIC AND HYPOCRITICAL, WHILE THEY DENY THE EXISTENCE OF GOD, OR TO BE MORE ACCURATE, THEIR PREDECESSORS MURDER GOD, TO ACCUSE THE REST OF US as, holocaust deniers and on top of this THEY WANT TO DESTROY REPUTATIONS, CAREERS, FAMILIES, ETC., like they want to do with Mr. Latson.

    4) AN ADVICE TO THOSE JEWS, I AM REFERRING ABOVE:
    GO MAKE LOVE TO YOURSELVES ass-O-s

  99. Zumbuddi says:
    @Kouros

    Just another way to demand, Worship the Jew.

    No sale.

  100. The holocaust narrative makes no sense at all.

    Why would the Germans not just shoot the jews and be done with it? Why were the jews put in work camps, given food,clothing, shelter…..gyms, theaters, hospitals, swimming pools, bordellos?

    If the Germans had wanted to genocide the jews, they would have made quick work of it.

    The goal wasn’t slaughter; the goal was containment of the communist virus.

    The German people knew what the jews had done nextdoor in Russia, they knew that the Bolsheviks had slaughtered MILLIONS of innocent people, raped nuns, murdered priests, burned churches to the ground….and the Germans knew they were NEXT.

    Hitler wanted to move the jews to Palestine and had a deal with the zionists to do so. The zionists tried to engineer the movement of jewry to Palestine but things went wrong.

    As mentioned above, if you plan to slaughter people, why give them a tat?

    Nothing about the holocaust narrative makes sense. It’s absurd.

    Yes jews died, for sure. It was after all a WORLD WAR where 55 million people lost their lives.

    TBH, I don’t care. I’m tired of hearing about it.

  101. Rurik says:
    @Rurik

    After posting that video of Judas grubbily collecting his shekels, I thought, let’s put a modern-day face to our current Judas.

    It brought me back to the year 2000, when I was in Jerusalem, and visited the museum at Yad Vashem, Israel’s Holocaust memorial. …

    The exhibit was stunning, because it showed how the mass persecutions didn’t come from nowhere. For twenty, thirty years, the German medical, political, and media establishments prepared the German people for it by training them to think that Germany needed to be turned into a “safe space” for das Volk, and to do that required expelling from public life the demons that threatened the health of innocent Germans. It was not about that at all, of course, but about rationalizing hatred of the Other — a hatred that eventually turned into an apocalypse.

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/exorcism-lgbt-christians/

    ‘Shekels are good. With shekels, I can buy stuff and spend money on me.’

    • Replies: @Svigor
  102. @turtle

    This statement is not logical. It does not logically follow that because they were tattooed they weren’t going to be killed. Livestock are oftentimes branded and killed. You need to rephrase the proposition, otherwise your argument is easily shot down.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @turtle
  103. homahr says:

    I love how Philip Giraldi has this great article on the holohaux today and the bitch named rod dreher over at pat buchanan’s amconmag has a sickening post on aushwitz published. check it out, haven’t seen so much gentile groveling in quite some time.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
    , @Rurik
  104. S says:

    ..no one complains more often or at greater volume than American Jewish groups intent on preserving the benefits that are derived from always being able to claim their perpetual victimhood.

    Utilizing accusations of faux guilt as both a shaming weapon towards other(s), and, more importantly for the accusers, a negative means of social control (via fear and terrorization) of one’s own people, has happened before, as in the case of the United States and it’s Civil War, fought 1861-1865.

    And, too, when a cause is morally dubious, it is sometimes necessary to augment it with something…anything.

    The below excerpt was published in The Atlantic Monthly (now known simply as The Atlantic) in October, 1870, in an article entitled ‘Our Israelitish Brethren’. In more modern English the title would translate as ‘Our Jewish Brothers’. ‘Brethren’, or brothers, is an apparent reference to the unfortunate belief by some Anglo-Saxons that they were of the ‘Lost Tribes of Israel’.

    The reference in the emboldened portion to ‘huge Andersonville outrages’ is to the South’s Andersonville POW camp for captured Union soldiers. The accusations regarding planned systematic mass murder at Andersonville, surrounded with much talk about ‘cattle cars’, the manufacture of leather wallets from the human skin of ‘murdered’ Union prisoners, ‘poisonous injections’ disguised as health measures, the wanton shooting down of prisoners by the commanding officer, the setting upon prisoners of large and ferocious dogs for sport, all constituting ‘crimes against humanity’, for which the declared intention had been to execute, via hanging, the entirety of the upper echelons of the defeated South’s political and military leadership.

    Those plans ultimately fell through, and the accusations regarding Andersonville are now generally, albeit quietly, acknowledged not to have been true.

    All too late, though, for the solitary and hapless Henry Wirz, the commanding officer at Andersonville, who would be hanged in 1865 as a scape goat for Union pique regarding it’s huge war time losses in what was ultimately a largely morally dubious economic war, a war not in any way, shape, or form, in the interest of the vast majority of the public ‘North’ or ‘South’, ie the North’s far more profitable wage slavery (so called ‘cheap labor’/’mass immigration’), vs the South’s far less profitable chattel slavery.

    The hanging was ‘botched’, and as Wirz slowly strangled to death, the last words he would hear on this earth uttered by the mouths of hundreds of watching Union spectators, were the chants of ‘Andersonville!’, ‘Andersonville!!’, ‘Andersonville!!!’

    ‘Of the giant wrongs to which they [the Jewish people] have been subjected for the last ten centuries,—the huge Andersonville outrages,—few readers need to be reminded.’

    The Atlantic Monthly (October, 1870) – Our Israelitish Brethren

    Who can estimate the reparation which Christendom owes this interesting and unoffending people? How abundant, how untiring, should be our charity in judging the faults of character which our own superstition has created or developed!

    Of the giant wrongs to which they [the Jewish people] have been subjected for the last ten centuries,—the huge Andersonville outrages,—few readers need to be reminded. In the slaughter of the Jews of Seville, in 1391, thirty-five hundred families were murdered. In 1492, under Ferdinand and Isabella, three hundred thousand heroic Israelites preferred exile to apostasy.

    Many of them found a resting-place only in the grave or in the depths of the sea; for neither Portugal nor Italy nor Mohammedan Morocco would tolerate the presence of a people who would not comply with their superstitions, and who, by their frugality, continence, temperance, and industry, absorbed the wealth of every country in which they lived.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1870/10/our-israelitish-brethren/306257/

  105. Remind me again; Why should white men ever allow these people into their lands?

    • Replies: @Jake
  106. @exiled off mainstreet

    So seeing someone who failed to be exterminated is proof of extermination?

  107. @Hippopotamusdrome

    The Germans themselves estimated that roughly 600,000 Soviet POWs had died as of late February 1942. Here’s a link to a document that was translated for the Nuremberg Trials, but apparently wasn’t entered into the evidence:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20120309153932/http://library2.lawschool.cornell.edu/donovan/pdf/Nuremberg_3/Vol_IX_16_15_02.pdf

    In this document, General von Gravenitz (chief of the Wehrmacht supply services) described the causes of the high mortality like so to Reich Minister Dr. Goebbels:

    Furthermore, the OKW counts 1,900,000 Soviet Prisoners of War in the zones of interior and in other occupied areas. As of 1 February 1942, the OKW, according to their tabulation, had available 685,000 Soviet Prisoners of war, and of those 323,000 were present in the Reich. He gave the following reasons for the high mortality: In the great “Kessel” (kettle) battles, the Soviets were contained up to 22 days without any supplies whatsoever. The German armies stormed forward, covering incredibly large distances. The German supply services could bring up to the front only the most necessary ammunitions and living necessities of the fighting troops. Thus, it would have been necessary to feed the Soviet Prisoners of War from supplies of the countryside. However, these supplies had been totally destroyed by the Soviets during their flight-like retreats. The early and abnormal winter did the rest.

    In other words, the Soviet scorched earth tactics destroyed the food supplies the Germans had planned to feed the Soviet prisoners with. So then they starved. No genocidal intent was needed. In fact, later in the same document it says:

    He [still General Gravenitz] quoted the order of the Fuehrer of September 1941 to the effect that Soviet Prisoners of War should be kept in condition to enable them to work.

    Hitler, who according to the politically correct among our historians wanted to have a genocide of all Russians, just because he was a horrible racist, actually ordered his army that they should be fed adequately. Unless this top ranking German general was lying to Goebbels in their top secret conference.

    So in the end, as I already wrote, it’s still true that great numbers of Soviet POWs did die in the winter of 1941/42, and that IS and remains a great tragedy. But again, hundreds of thousands of Axis soldiers on the Eastern Front also died in this same period, and even modern politically correct historians don’t claim that Hitler made his own soldiers a target of genocide. They died because adequate food, fuel, housing and medical care simply wasn’t available when the German logistics system had almost collapsed under the impact of the Russian winter.

    • Replies: @S
  108. Jake says:
    @Robert Dolan

    It is as simple as knowing the story of Jesus the Christ and the Pharisees.

    The latter were the end result of perversions to the faith of Abraham and the law of Moses under the Second Temple. Those who came to control the Second Temple had a religion based on what we today must call racism. To them, the children of Israel being ‘chosen’ was not that they as a tribe, a nation of tribes, were to be set apart to follow God’s law in service to all mankind, and then to be the people from whom would spring the Messias to offer salvation to all mankind. Instead, the Jews who gained control of religious life and teaching, and would culminate in the party the Pharisees, came to believe that the call of Abraham to the chosen people meant that Jews were The Master Race, a race created by God to bestride the globe and rule over the lesser races.

    Those views are, obviously, diametrically opposed.

    And that is the reason that all Judaizing heresies, regardless of the specifics, serve Satan by serving Jewish interests. By the time of the Incarnation, Jewish religion that was not so Satanic was not organized – it was restricted to individuals. The Temple was ruled by that falsehood, and the Pharisees, who mastered synagogue worship to spread the teachings, were worse than the Temple priesthood.

    Jews are defined by being anti-Christ. They also must hate Christendom. Whites built and maintained Christendom, hence whites are object of Jewish hatred that goes much deeper and farther than Jewish hatred of the very blacks who are orthodox in Christian dogmas and morals.

    You cannot overcome Jewish rule with appeals to race because the matter is at heart one of theology. That means you also cannot succeed by relying on any culture tied to, determined by, a Judaizing heresy.

    WASP culture was determined by the Judaizing heresy Anglo-Saxon Puritanism.

    Either you act to try to rebuild Christendom (which requires historic Christianity) in some form, or all your efforts are wasted time and energy at best, and may often serve anti-Christ.

  109. Jake says:
    @Richard B

    “As far as can tell the Chinese and Jewish Supremacy Inc. are pretty much dividing the world up between them.”

    For a very long time, many Jews and WASP Elites have asserted that the Chinese are like the Jews of East Asia.

    Modern China is defined by revolution – whether by monarchists or old fashioned warlords or Marxists – that had one main focus: to exterminate, for all practical purposes, from China all trace of historic Christianity. Mao’s rise came when monarchists decided that Marxism could do that better than any Chinese monarch of the existing or any possible new dynasty.

  110. JohnnyD says:
    @Saggy

    What’s your point? After the War, Finkelstein’s parents married and moved to America. Eventually , they had children in the 1950s. He’s never claimed he was born in a concentration camp, if that’s your point.

    • Replies: @Parfois1
  111. Rurik says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    There are any number of possibilities in between

    I agree

    there is absolutely no need to accept the six million figure merely on say so

    here you’re wrong.

    if you doubt the holy ‘six million’ figure in Europe or Canada or many countries, they will put you in prison.

    As I understand it, the holy ‘six million’ liturgy, is a sacramental tenet of ‘Holocaustianity’ indoctrination in our public schools.

    More here:

    WHEREAS, the Holocaust was the systematic persecution and annihilation of European Jewry by Nazi Germany and its collaborators between 1933 and 1945; and

    WHEREAS, Jews were the primary victims—six million were murdered…

    https://www.michigan.gov/documents/mde/Holocaust_Resolution_230546_7.pdf

    and then when you contemplate these edicts:

    WHEREAS, the history of the Holocaust offers an opportunity to reflect on the moral responsibilities of individuals, societies, and governments; and

    WHEREAS, the people of the State of Michigan should always remember the terrible events of the Holocaust and remain vigilant against hatred, persecution, and tyranny; and

    WHEREAS, the people of the State of Michigan should actively rededicate themselves to the principles of individual freedom in a just society; and

    WHEREAS, the Days of Remembrance have been set aside for the people of the State of Michigan to remember the victims of the Holocaust as well as to reflect on the need for respect of all peoples…

    and then you find out all that ‘big talk is worth doodly-squat’.

    These measures, which are now Public Acts 526 and 527 of 2016, condemn national origin discrimination and thus the efforts of the anti-Israel boycott, divestment, and sanctions movement (BDS).

    https://brandeiscenter.com/michigan-governor-signs-anti-bds-bills-into-law-2/

    because in some cases, not only is genocide laudable and good, and “discrimination” against Palestinians (up to and including massacring unarmed protesters and all manor of depraved persecution), is to be celebrated, but now any attempt to boycott Israel for its ongoing genocide of the Palestinians, is banned by Michigan law.

    So they demand, (out of one side of their treasonous faces) that by law that we all pay homage to the Holocaust, (and the holy ‘six million’), and condemn genocide in every class room in that state, but at the same time, (out of the other side of their rancid souls) demand that all children in Michigan also support an ongoing genocide- because acting like Jews are subject to the same standard as Gentiles, is the worst kind of anti-Semitism of all!

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  112. Jake says:
    @Bill Jones

    Well, not to have allowed them back into England would have made the Anglo-Saxon Puritans seem wrong theologically to many they bludgeoned into accepting their rule. Plus, Cromwell and the Puritans needed money, and the Jews in Continental Germanic speaking areas, especially the Netherlands, had a lot of cash to loan Reformationists.

    Anglo-Saxon Puritans thus cemented the alliance of WASP and Jew.

  113. crankypat says:

    If the holocaust was real then why didn’t Eisenhower and De Gaul mention it in the books that they wrote after the war. After all they hated Germans and had every reason to mention it.

    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t553062/

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
  114. @homahr

    I went over and read it. Typical and predictable. Subjective. None of the comments, thus far, cite any work(s) to support their view.

  115. dkshaw says:

    This is the sort of bullshit that leads to MORE “anti-Semitism”, not less. Perpetual victims indeed, and that’s how they like it.

  116. @Jake

    Yes, you make some good points. You echo E. Michael Jones.

    However…..the likelihood of a massive Christian revival is not looking good. The churches are totally cucked. The current Pope seems to actually despise Christendom in his celebration of massive immigration.

    I don’t see any way for whites to survive unless they unify and engage in identity politics.

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @Kolya Krassotkin
  117. There are 3 myths which control and manipulate American minds.

    Don’t believe in the Jewish Holocaust myth and you are a jew hating nazi.

    Don’t believe in the war over slavery myth and you are a racist defending slavery.

    Don’t believe in the Jesus myth and you are going to hell.

    Classical conditioning is used to manipulate people into becoming emotional over these myths, just like Pavlov’s dogs. This is why Jews become emotional if you do not believe the jewish holocaust myth. It is stimulus and response, the bell and the emotional state, fear, anger, etc.

    Don’t expect to change their minds. They are zombies. Their mind is under the control of the myth, not through reasoning, but through classical conditioning, the cornerstone of propaganda.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  118. Mr. Wales says:
    @Robert Dolan

    The Jews are smart. They seized upon a historical situation, used it as springboard to make propaganda and have been reaping the benefits ever since. The holocaust narrative has become a myth of modern western culture.

    You either believe or don’t believe a myth. The moment a myth is questioned it is no longer a myth. It becomes an object of criticism and loses it’s grip on people.

    The Jews have sought by every means possible to keep this myth alive. They will try to establish a dictatorship to preserve the myth. This is exactly what they are trying to do right now.

    They have been buying people off who aren’t Jewish to spread the myth. Propaganda in schools, film, radio and print. On the internet and in the church. It’s been a remarkably effective effort. The Jews should applaud themselves.

    This is the day and age we live in. Times are changing as the myth has been questioned. Soon the holocaust boat will spring so many leaks that even the Jews with all their money and enablers won’t be able to plug all the holes and the myth will sink.

  119. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:

    Wow Philip finally crossed the holocaust rubicon. His following must be slacking off for him to dive into the deep end of denial. The last safe harbor for a Jew hater is accepting the holocaust as factual which it is. Yad Vashem has 4.5 million listed knowing that they will be made to reconcile their info so I am sure the names and birth certificates are accurate. When I was growing up (70) no one ever talked about the Holocaust and it was never mentioned in school.

    Latson deserves what he gets coming out with a complete denial of the Holocaust in a majority Jewish school system. Like he did not know what was going to happen. Parents have a right to control their curriculum and set of truths. If children of survivors are upset makes sense. What happened if a teacher decides that slavery was a good thing for blacks as it got them out of Africa. I guess we would see the last of that teacher. Teachers do not decide curriculum they teach.

    The Holocaust did happened there are eyewitness and physical evidence. Just look at the photos of the 400,000 Hungarian Jews’ arrival at Auschwitz almost none of them survived and it is very well documented from the family members. There were millions of deaths during the war, but none as spectacular as what the Germans did to the Jews with their early gassing vans, and firing squads of up to 40,000 Jews in Babi Yar, the Warsaw ghetto, the involvement mothers and children. It was a spectacle. It did happen. There was to much history over vast quantities of land and countries for it to have been faked.

    Well I hope Philips readership gets its boost, he has pretty much been booted out of MSM. Now he will be further on the fringe.

  120. Svigor says:
    @Wally

    I’m a holocaust skeptic or agnostic, but what’s interesting is what the holocaust narrative proves so well: how easy it would be to fake a holocaust, given a sufficiently wealthy and motivated group of devotees, and a sufficiently naive/spineless group of saps to sell on it.

    You really don’t need anything but a bunch of books and a bunch of hot air and a complete lack of what the goyim would call traditional morality.

    Whether you believe the Jewish holocaust narrative or not, you have to admit, after cursory examination, that the only “evidence” they have is a bunch of Jewish scribbling and a bunch of Jewish hot air. It’s roughly equivalent to a science about hundreds of species of dinosaur based on a single claw bone.

  121. ….“the horrors of the Holocaust are fading from our collective memory…”

    This is terrible. The answer is more movies. Also, the popular hip-hop music could be used to teach our young people about the Holocaust. But movies are probably best. We need Holocaust films that make the death and suffering visceral. I want to see a film that shows the electrified floors, the cages with the bears and eagles, the masturbation machines, the stairs of death, the German Shepard dogs attacking the poor violinists who missed a note and the roller coaster that delivered victims to the gas chambers.

    Those are the scenes that will get people’s attention and get the horrors back into our collective memories.

  122. Wally says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    Your statement is not logical.

    Are you saying that, like some livestock, the Germans ate Jews after tattooing them?

    BTW:
    The German SS tattooed their men.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  123. sally says:
    @Rational

    The point here is important.. as it speaks to the first amendment.. Congress shall make no law that abridges the freedom of speech or of the press..
    There are two things to notice.. that the speech or publication is without penalty, the constitution says so, no one can stop the speech or publication.. but the content and context of the speech or publication is not protected it can be punished in this case with ruthless vindictive and wanton, warmonger anger it seems… by a private third party a special very narrow Jewish interest.. .
    Third party content and content actions against speech or publication could be an unintended “gift” derived from the “constitution generated by amendment and the rule of law generated by the Congress against exposing by speech or publication the truth”. Has the USA given to the Americans it governs a gift in disguise? .. Punishing not speech or publication but its content or context opens the door to sue fake news for offense, deceitful or fake content or production of such in given contexts.. When propaganda is a lie, when propaganda is produced to deceive . when propaganda causes damages. a tort might be claimed.? a system of government which allows content and content of first American protected speech or publication, could open the door to go after fake news and to recover damages for lies and misstatements. it seem to me. IANAL ..

  124. Svigor says:
    @Rurik

    For twenty, thirty years, the German medical, political, and media establishments prepared the German people for it by training them to think that Germany needed to be turned into a “safe space” for das Volk, and to do that required expelling from public life the demons that threatened the health of innocent Germans. It was not about that at all, of course

    Yeah, actually, it was.

    And is.

    My guess is that the Shabbos Goyim are the recurring tragedy least written-about; they’re a perennial growth, and I doubt they fare well during expulsions or other corrections of Jews. I’ve certainly never even heard of a Jew’s lament for collateral damage against the Shabbos Goyim.

    I at least hope they don’t fare well during the next.

  125. Truth3 says:

    Liars and Hypocrites before the time of Christ (He certainly called them what they were) will never stop lying, or being hypocritical (chutzpah!), as their weapons of mass psychological suppression of the Truth.

    The so called HC is the best example possible (((of the people that so hate mankind))) that no extreme exertion of falsehood is to be regarded as shameful to the liars and their willing accomplices and co-conspirators.

    They Double Down Every Day.

  126. Wally says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Ah yes, the latest attempt to move away from the absurd & impossible ‘gas chambers’ to the equally absurd “holocaust by bullets”.
    Because of Revisionist research in debunking the ‘gas chambers’, the “Holocau$t Industry” is now trying to shift the emphasis away from their absurd ‘gassings’ claims.
    The problem for those shysters is that Revisionists are all over the equally impossible claims made of the Einsatzgruppen.
    The ridiculous claims made about of the Einsatzgruppen were originally, but fraudulently claimed to be supplemental to the much larger ‘gas chambers’ tales.
    Indeed, the Einsatzgruppen really did exist, but only as legal, anti terrorist teams working behind the lines against illegal non-uniformed combatants.

    The fraudulent ‘holocau$t’ Industry now claims that 2,000,000 Jews or more were shot by the Einsatzgruppen into huge pits (“holocaust by bullets”), so, anyone, please SHOW us the actual excavations, the enormous mass graves, & remains that are claimed to exist, their locations are allegedly known.
    Is that:
    100 graves of 20,000?
    200 graves of 10,000?
    400 graves of 5,000?
    500 graves of 4,000?
    1000 graves of 2000?
    2000 graves of 1000?

    recommended:
    The Einsatzgruppen in the Occupied Eastern Territories, Genesis, Missions and Actions
    https://codoh.com/news/3424/The Einsatzgruppen Trial, By John Wear: https://codoh.com/library/document/5515/?lang=en
    ‘Holocaust by Bullets: Uncovering the Reality of alleged Genocide’: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7362
    Mattogno demolishes claimed ‘Holocaust by Bullets’ ‘mass graves’ fraud
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9768
    “Holocaust by Bullets” debunked: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5410

    • Replies: @Republic
  127. Svigor says:
    @flashlight joe

    It’s very, very good tactics to wed belief in the holocaust myth to belief in the Jesus/Hell myth precisely because nobody believes in the Jesus/Hell myth anymore; it instantly places the holocaust myth in its proper context, highlights the indisputable fact that the holocaust is myth, not history, because it can’t be questioned.

  128. Rurik says:
    @homahr

    check it out, haven’t seen so much gentile groveling in quite some time.

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/sunday-morning-at-auschwitz/

    this is the crematorium, where four million! .. er, um.. I mean one and a half million! Jews were put into ovens!

    If you look carefully, you can see scrape marks all over the floors, where Nazis shoveled up Jewish lard to make soap!

    They literally were filling huge vats of fat every hour, and that’s why there’s no mass graves, because all the Jews were turned to fat in those ovens, and those diabolical (if clever!) Nazis used it all for soap. That’s why the Nazis were so hygienic, because they were constantly washing themselves with this soap. (it’s well been proven that Jewish fat makes superior soap, unlike Gypsy fat, which tends not to hold its shape as well, and falls apart in the ‘shower’.

    That’s how the Jews knew the showers were a ruse, because they’d try to wash, and the soap would crumple, and then a rabbi would shout ‘it’s Gypsy fat!’, and so the Jews would rush the wooden doors of the gas chambers, but those damn methodical Nazis had blocked the exit with pallets of the chosen soap.

    When you get into the real aspects of the Holocaust, it’s really amazing the level of rascally cunning of those darn Nazis, because not only did they keep the best soap for themselves, they gave the sub-par stuff to the Jews.

  129. Svigor says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Yad Vashem has 4.5 million listed knowing that they will be made to reconcile their info so I am sure the names and birth certificates are accurate. When I was growing up (70) no one ever talked about the Holocaust and it was never mentioned in school.

    Is this tongue-in-cheek? Because it’s pretty funny. YV has a bunch of phony data on their site, they’ve been caught out for it, which is common knowledge among people who refuse to worship Jews.

    It was never mentioned

    The last safe harbor for a Jew hater is accepting the holocaust as factual which it is.

    How is this supposed to make sense?

    spectacular as what the Germans did to the Jews with their early gassing vans

    This is a particularly funny example, but your entire comment is so bad, it’s really gotta be written by a playful revisionist. The logic is especially bad.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @Fran Taubman
  130. Art says:
    @Honesty

    Sir, foxnews is reporting that the fake passport recovered in Epstein’s locker places him as a resident of Saudi Arabia – and that is from the 80’s. What is going on here? This is so weird (and scary). How much of penetration we have from foreign groups in USA

    FOX did not reveal the country who issued the passport – WHY – who could that be?

    COVERUP! COVERUP! COVERUP!

    DEEP STATE RULES!

    Does anyone still believe that there is anything honorable about the US government?

    The grand experiment called America has been turned into a hoax by the Jews.

  131. Svigor says:
    @exiled off mainstreet

    From my Ph. D. research and seeing survivors with tattoos I am convinced that the Nazi regime did engage in exterminations, but I know that Jewish people were not the only targets. The actual number exterminated is open to interpretation, but a great many were obviously exterminated. Proof that something happened can be seen in comparisons of the ethnic makeup of territories before and after Nazi occupation. Over 3 Million Soviet POW’s were also liquidated in Nazi camps and hundreds of thousands of other non-Jewish people were also liquidated.

    Somehow the standards of evidence become lower in the minds of holocaust cultists, by dint of the scale. You’d think it would be the other way around; that proving 1k people were killed would require 1k times as much evidence as proving 1 person was killed, so to speak, but it doesn’t.

    E.g., in court you can’t use the fact that someone has gone missing as “proof” they’ve been murdered. Generally speaking, if you can’t prove a person is dead, you can’t try someone for his murder, at least, not in an American court. You need enough of a body (a torso without a head; a head without a torso; a heart; etc) to prove death, or enough remains of one to prove death, or video recording of his death, etc.

    This is, at least in part, precisely to prevent some (((asshole))) from faking his own death and benefiting from the deed, from punishing someone for a capital crime that hasn’t even been proven to have occurred, and to prevent people from being punished for “murdering” people who have simply left in secret (moving in the dark of night is certainly something Jews are no stranger to, historically speaking).

    But for the holocaust myth, the situation is reversed; since you’re “proving” millions died, you don’t need any evidence that anyone died at all.

    recalling George Carlin’s view that political correctness was nothing more than polite fascism

    I love the “fascism” thing because as soon as you use that word, you’ve conceded that you are fighting a losing, rear-guard action. To choose “fascism” as epithet when “communism” is appropriate is to admit that you are in fact living under a communist or communist-adjacent regime, and have to use communist lingo and epithets to get through to the sheep.

  132. Svigor says:
    @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    You got it wrong. Women—affluent white women, specifically—crowd the top of the totem pole of grievances along with the Jews.

    Citation needed. I’m open to your thesis, but it’s gonna take statistics.

    • Agree: S
  133. Rurik says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The Holocaust did happened there are eyewitness and physical evidence.

    The eyewitnesses accounts are beyond question!

    and here is just one such photograph of physical evidence!

    that’s a lampshade to you anti-Semites, made of Jewish skin!

    and look at how the Nazis would shrink the heads of Jews for their sick amusement!

    Here’s a close-up for all the deniers!

    Go ahead and just try to deny that, Nazis and anti-Semites and Palestinian and Iranian terrorists!

    The evidence is right there in front of your eyes, and still they would deny!

    Sick, sick, sick!

    They’re so full of hate, Linda, that one wonders at the intractability of anti-Semitism all though the centuries.

    They even gave the Jews Gypsy soap in the ‘showers’, and it crumbled as soon as they tried to use it!

    Devils that the Nazis (all Germans!) were , and are! In fact we see these vile anti-Semites here in droves, denying the Holy Holocaust!, and pretending that Palestinians are human!

    where does the hate come from?!?!?!?!

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  134. Svigor says:
    @Svigor

    When I was growing up (70) no one ever talked about the Holocaust and it was never mentioned in school.

    I was going to reply to that particularly funny tidbit, quoted a fragment of it, and then forgot to follow through.

    Now that I’ve quoted the full sentence, I think the humor stands on its own.

  135. @S

    Excellent point’s all. And let us never forget it was the South’s house Joo who sabotaged much of the Confederacy war effort.

    “If the South is to have any chance of gaining independence, it will have to win early, before the more industrialized and populated North can outlast them. The first battle of the war at Bull Run (Manassas, Virginia) is therefore critical. To make a long story short, the rebels force a Union retreat that soon turns into a full rout. The Battle of Bull Run will soon be referred to by some as “The Battle of Yankee Run”.

    “The Union Capital, Washington DC, is just miles away and now essentially undefended. It is the South’s for the taking. The capture of DC and other parts north would have delivered a huge psychological blow to the North. Because many northerners aren’t in favor of the war anyway; the capture of DC might very well have ended the war that same year. But instead of finishing the job, someone has decided to spare the Capital – a decision that inflames the Southern press and leads to bitter finger-pointing.”
    http://www.tomatobubble.com/id866.html

    • Replies: @S
  136. Truth3 says:
    @Rurik

    You should take a look at the controlled comment section after the article…

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/sunday-morning-at-auschwitz/

    Shocking that nobody… and I mean nobody… challenges the falsehoods and propaganda that riddle that article.

    Mr. Unz, look what they have done to your magazine.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Rurik
    , @homahr
    , @Ron Unz
  137. @Steve Naidamast

    Before the 1967 ‘Six Day War’, I was in junior high school (Middle School) in NY state.

    I remember being required to read a short story called ‘No News From Auschwitz”. This was around 1966. As I recall, this short story (or was it an essay?) was centered around Jewish victimhood and Jewish innocence and the lack of contemporary focus on what later became known as ‘the Holocaust’.

    Indeed, the word ‘holocaust’ was still a generic term back then. It had no popular connection to Jewishness or WWII. ‘Holocaust’ became redefined after the ’73 war as far as I remember.

    But the Jews even then were busy using the classroom (at least in NY) to brainwash innocent minds. And their tribal fanaticism is still growing, despite Germany’s dismemberment.

    Incredibly, Holocaust-mania has increased (not faded, like most memories) every decade since WWII. This distance allows Zionists to streamline and modify their fanciful narrative with less resistance.

    Today’s Jews are working overtime to elevate and keep the focus on their alleged victimhood as intense as possible so they can employ US power to cut down Israel’s remaining foes in Iran, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon and elsewhere.

    Religious and secular Jews alike are intent to ‘Rule the Nations’, as their Torah prophasizes. Holocaust mythology remains a key weapon for this purpose.

  138. @Fran Taubman

    ” Parents have a right to control their curriculum and set of truths.”

    I agree and hope you will remember this.

    “, he has pretty much been booted out of MSM.”

    Not necessarily a bad thing…

    “Now he will be further on the fringe.”

    I believe history will vindicate him but you are entitled to your opinion.

  139. Art says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Latson deserves what he gets coming out with a complete denial of the Holocaust in a majority Jewish school system.

    Kudos to Mr. Latson – Kudos to PG for defending him – the six million lie is crumbling!

    The coercion around that lie is seeing the light of day. Yes, bad things happened – but the Jews are compounding them.

    The Jew have squandered the the worlds sympathy. They are recreating the conditions in America, that existed in Germany after WWI.

  140. @Rational

    Yes, one incredibly courageous man!

  141. henderson says:

    “Where are the museums and courses in Florida schools discussing the mass killing that happened on our own shores, the genocide of the native Americans?”

    and as usual on all these related websites – there it is. Never fails.
    Don’t worry, buddy- you’ll get what you want.
    They have some of them already but it’s a growth market.

    It’s Holocaust Education-

  142. @exiled off mainstreet

    Did you do your PHD in Feminine Studies? Which clown college did you attend? So what if they had tattoos? How is that proof of an extermination campaign, when I can just as easily argue that it was purely utilized for identification purposes. How is seeing some octogenarian with some faded tattoo etched on her body proof that the holocaust occurred?

  143. @Fran Taubman

    You are probably one of the Israel-firster super boomer goyims that we keep hearing about!

  144. PeterMX says:

    This is why some people have said the so called holocaust is now a religion demanding belief in its tenets, including the magical number 6 million, or face being charged with being sacreligious. Isn’t this just more evidence of who are the oppressors and who dominate countries. Meanwhile, Jews dominant role in mass murder as the leaders of communism is forbidden to be discussed, lest you be fired for that. The lies are so glaring that about less than 1% of the west (even those in Russia or Ukraine) know of the Jews leading role. I have a feeling that if Russians and Ukrainians knew of the Jews role in communism and their complicity in mass murder, Ukraine would not have elected its second Jewish President in a row and the Russia – Ukraine war might end soon.

  145. @Rurik

    https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/on-chosen-mess/#comment-3300548

    Dr. Schramm told me about a new synthetic fat which had just been invented. Elaborate experiments were being made to produce not only a substitute for soap but also an edible compound to supplement animal fats and vegetable oils. This, he claimed, would soon remedy blockaded Germany’s chief dietary danger, since it could be produced from chemical constituents abundantly available. . . . Into the Darkness, by Stoddard, publ. 1940 https://www.unz.com/book/lothrop_stoddard__into-the-darkness/

    The above is from a book published in 1940, before the main event — it was not until 1942 that Rabbi Stephen Wise insisted that FDR’s administration pay attention to the telegrams about “Nazis killing Jews.”

    We can assume that “Jews” were not the source for the “chemical constituents” used to make the soap and “edible compounds that had just been invented” since the invention pre-dated their propaganda.

    Also interesting that the demand for the chemical substitute for soap arose as a result of the blockade of Germany imposed by Jews.

    Shouldn’t the children at Spanish River High School be made aware of this chronology?

    PS re the very well done video @57 that saggy posted
    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/#comment-3333859

    While showing women showering post-camp-liberation, the BBC narrator comments, snidely,
    ” . . . and the Germans said these people did not know how to keep themselves clean.” (or something like that).
    a. Those women looked pretty healthy
    b. How do we know they were Jewish?
    c. Which begs the question: 7 million German civilians were deliberately “de-housed” as a calculated result of the Allied firebombing campaign. Where did they go? Were Germans ever resident in concentration / work camps? (iirc the video mentions that far more Roman Catholics than Jews died in camps.)

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    , @Rurik
  146. S says:
    @John Regan

    ..the Soviet scorched earth tactics destroyed the food supplies the Germans had planned to feed the Soviet prisoners with. So then they starved. No genocidal intent was needed.

    Am reminded here a bit of the very rare, though grudging, acknowledgements of the US establishment media in the decades after the Civil War that the deaths at Andersonville and other Southern POW camps had largely been caused by the North’s own complete blockade of food and medicine (having been declared ‘contraband’) entering the South.

    However, even if one were to accept every last accusation there was regarding the Germans in WWII, as questionable as certain of them may be, ie the ‘six million’, attempted ‘genocide’ of various peoples, conquering European Russia up to the Urals and the Russians being the ‘Red Skins’ outside of it in Siberia, the Germans ‘enslaving’ various conquered peoples and wishing to be ‘the master race’ over them, etc, etc., it still would only be a tenth of the crimes committed in the name of Capitalism, Communism, and their synthesis, Multi-Culturalism.

    In this inverted world, besides often being simple projection, those accusations regarding the US South and WWII era Germany help deflect from examining the far greater criminality.

    And, a person can point these things out without being a believer of the Southern Confederacy, an ‘anti-semite’, or a ‘Nazi!’TM.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  147. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda Rice"] says:
    @Svigor

    The data is bullet proof. Think of all those people with families who went missing. Whole families went in and only a brother or sister came out. The evidence is staggering and cross checked with computer models. It is up to the deniers to prove it did not happen. You should watch the movie Shoa by Claude Landsman 1987, he secretly records the train drives and locals. The testimony is there from non Jews.
    https://community.hpe.com/t5/Behind-the-scenes-Labs/Labs-Yad-Vashem-hackathon-Innovation-in-the-service-of-memory/ba-p/6827508#.XS4S_C3MyL4

    • Replies: @Rich
    , @Anon
  148. @Robert Dolan

    We will have to agree to disagree on that. I believe some kind of mass murder occurred, just nowhere near the scale of what has been purported.

    My point is that even in the event if that Hollywoodized version were true, it ought not to matter given that similar events have occurred before and after, some of them on a wider scale and better documented. I do not accept the notion that only one such event is “special” or “sacred” above others; and that the “perpetrators” and their ancestors merit damnatio memoriae.

  149. @Jacques Sheete

    Thanks for the mention of the book all the same. Will be looking out for it.

  150. Truth3 says:

    The Nonsense of Equating ‘Hatred’ with ‘Evil’. Or… H=E

    As Satan (((and his people))) attempt to stamp the idea that H=E onto every Human mind, it should be noted…

    Hatred of Evil (and other malefactors) is actually righteous.

    Only the Evil could benefit from this H=E nonsense… (((Cui Bono?)))

    Righteousness is what the Evil Ones Hate.

    I Hate Waste, therefore I am on the side of proper and wise use of God’s given resources.

    I Hate Filth, therefore I am for Sanitation.

    I Hate Disease, therefore I am for Health.

    I Hate Evil, therefore I am on side of the Good.

    I Hate Liars, therefore I love Truth.

    I Hate Schemers & Cheaters, therefore I am for Honest Dealings.

    I Hate Theft & Thieves, therefore I am for Victims and Restitution of Personal Property stolen.

    I Hate Abortion, therefore I am a Protector of the Not Yet Born Babies

    I Hate Murder, therefore I am on the side of the Victims whose Life was taken.

    I Hate War, therefore I am on the side of Peace.

    See… I’m a Hater… and Proud of It.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  151. @Svigor

    I cannot provide statistics for this sort of thing as they would either be impossible to prove, or those who have the ability to prove such things would be disgusted by my thesis.

    But reading, say, El País, El Clarín, Le Figaro, Le Monde, Der Spiegel, or the Asahi shimbun on any given day—to say nothing of Anglo-American media, or various other websites—leads me to conclude that Western media believes that no greater victim exists than woman. There is seemingly not a single day that goes by where El País and El Clarín, for example, devote at least a couple of articles to “femicide”, implying that the even larger rates of men being murdered is somehow acceptable.

  152. @ChuckOrloski

    What did the article conclude, CO?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  153. @OEMIKITLOB

    Turning generations of children over to this institution was the beginning of much of what we see and experience today, it’s just been a long, slow process. Oh, and we foot the bill for our own destruction, too. Pretty slick

    .

    Agree. It’s what you get when you trust “authority” to do the right thing. And footing the bill for our own destruction really hurts, but almost no one seems to care if they notice at all. Gotta have dem roadz!

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
    , @Zumbuddi
  154. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    You morons seem to imagine that there are two possibilities, and two only:

    Wrong. We morons know there is only one option and it’s #2.

  155. @Robert Dolan

    The goal wasn’t slaughter; the goal was containment of the communist virus.

    True. The Wall Street and London Communist virus, in fact.

  156. Art says:
    @Truth3

    You should take a look at the controlled comment section after the article…

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/sunday-morning-at-auschwitz/

    Shocking that nobody… and I mean nobody… challenges the falsehoods and propaganda that riddle that article.

    Editing – you can be 100% sure that all descending views were edited out.

    So much for premium “conservative” free speech.

    There is zero integrity in all elite strata – right, left, and center in the US.

    What evil the Jew have wrought!

    • Replies: @FLgeezer
  157. @JayJonahJameson

    Still, there is entirely too much time and energy spent on the subject. There are far more pressing issues these days….

    Oh, absolutely. The only consolation is that the grip of this narrative seems to finally be giving way. I will probably not live long enough to see this total transformation, but likely will see the inevitable beginning of mainstream questioning of the event. In time, probably over a couple centuries, once the living memory of Allied propaganda has finally been silenced, the events of World War II will finally be able to be discussed with all the dispassionate objectivity that we now reserve for things like the Thirty Years’ War or the respective Warring States Periods of China and Japan.

  158. @mark green

    I’m reading The Reckoning, by John Grisham

    The main character, Peter Banning, was one of the ~100,000 Americans & Filipinos who surrendered and endured the Bataan Death March, then Japanese POW camps.

    Grisham devotes about 1/3 of the book to describing the terrible cruelties the Japanese inflicted; he says he read dozens of books on WWII in the Pacific.

    Many reader reviews were negative; some were vicious. (I’ve not finished the book, but I think it an extraordinary work; I believe the Key to the moral, that ties together two major plot lines, is from the Prosecutor’s closing statement at Banning’s trial for murder:

    “Why could it not have been settled without bloodshed?!!”

    I think The Reckoning is an anti-war book, and an indictment on the American proclivity for violence.

    Anyway — I’m not aware of narratives of German brutality comparable to the Japanese tortures Banning experienced and witnessed.

    Only the Jews seem to have been tortured by Nazis.

    And Jews have to fake the stories.

    The damn Germans were just not sufficiently brutal for their record to stand on its own merits.

    I also don’t think that Jews are the only segment of the population that feels compelled to protect the holohoax at all costs: On the relatively few occasions when the Allied firebombing campaign is discussed — and condemned, to be sure — only Dresden is in the common discourse, and most of the blame is ascribed to the British, and specifically to Arthur Harris.

    But Americans were involved in the deliberate firebombing of German civilians “with malice aforethought,” — with written plans, the deliberate intention to kill as many German civilians as possible, and well before what Phil refers to as “the alleged holocaust” (luv ya, Phil!) is claimed to have become known. That is, the American firebombing campaign was not in retaliation for the “alleged holocaust”, it was part of Allied war goals from early on.

    The holocaust narrative was contrived at war’s end as a cover-up to American, British, and yes, Jewish war crimes and crimes against humanity. Cora Sol Goldstein as much as admits this in the opening paragraphs of “Capturing the German Eye.” https://books.google.com/books?id=d-Qyqp15fDkC&q=bandersky#v=snippet&q=omgus&f=false

    re that last, “Jewish war crimes” —
    @ 100, Robert Dolan wrote:

    Hitler wanted to move the jews to Palestine and had a deal with the zionists to do so. The zionists tried to engineer the movement of jewry to Palestine but things went wrong.

    The devil is in the details:
    a. Louis Brandeis was the zionist capo tutti capi; very early on — mid-February, 1933, he directed that “all Jews leave Germany; no Jew should remain in Germany . . . I urge that all 587,000 German Jews leave . . .”

    Rabbi Stephen Wise recorded the conversation in his autobiography, including the specificity in identifying the ethnicity and number of Jews to be migrated out of Germany.

    At the time — early 1933 — there may have been as many as 2 million Jews in Germany — refugees and “illegal immigrants” from Poland and Russia who were aided to migrate to Germany during WWI and Weimar, by Jewish aid societies.

    Brandeis did not specify that those Eastern European Jews should be removed from Germany.

    b. A strong case can be made that zionists did not want the vast numbers of Eastern European Jews in Palestine:
    – they were eugenically unfit for the “new Jew” to create the zionist utopia. Etan Bloom makes this clear in his biography of Arthur Ruppin, who “produced Hebrew culture in zionist Palestine.”
    – Palestine did not yet have the holding capacity
    AND
    – based on a statement by Michael Ledeen in a talk about 15 years ago, Jews re-enacted the scene at the foot of Mt. Sinai, when “Jews killed Jews . . . Levites killed Jews, and I am a proud Levite.”

    c. Zionist Jews either killed directly or set up their own tribesmen for ‘holocaust.’ Deliberately and with full knowledge. According to plan, not “wrong”

  159. Some people did something. I simply don’t give a shit.
    I suppose it’s because I was schooled before the “Holocaust” became a required subject – you know, just reading, writing and ‘rithmetic.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/politics/oregon-governor-holocaust-education-bill-schools/index.html

  160. @S

    … for neither Portugal nor Italy nor Mohammedan Morocco would tolerate the presence of a people who would not comply with their superstitions…

    Reminds me of the holocaust freaks and their attitude towards all who question their narrative. And seems to me that there’s an article somewhere on UR today about how intolerant the Zio-goons can be to those who fail to comply with their superstitions… 😉

  161. @Robert Dolan

    The goal wasn’t slaughter; the goal was containment of the communist virus.

    Same in the East Asian theatre during World War II. Japan correctly understood that the Kuomintang was essentially a US puppet, and that it was only aggravating the real threat posed by the CPC. Seventy years later, historians now talk about an “Asian Holocaust” with a straight face.

  162. This is the most thoroughgoing rebuttal of the official holocaust narrative I have seen so far.

    “One third of the holocaust” by Jewish Historian David Cole. And excellent piece of research.
    https://archive.org/details/OneThirdOfTheHolocaustHDVideoHQSound

    Click the icon twice then wait a few seconds.

    BUT BEWARE! This version seems to be fairly original (dated 2006). There is a new pro-zionist propaganda remake of this video circulating on the web now, nothing like the original.

    BTW: David Cole was later forced to recant, but then so was Galileo.

  163. Holo-deniers are bonkers. There is not much to discuss here. They’re like flat-earthers, just more amusing.

    However, there are some things I see rarely mentioned…

    They, holo-deniers, are mostly from North America & Western Europe. They see all this warfare at the Eastern front as something exotic, strange, alien & incomprehensible. It seems they are incapable of comprehending reality of that part of war (which was the most savage war after Mongol invasions). Instead, they juggle with some half-truths & fictions, long since debunked as Soviet & American propaganda, for their own purposes. Yet- no serious man (or historian) thinks that extermination of European Jewry was a myth, a story invented for sinister Jewish purposes. For instance, I don’t see a serious effort to debate numbers of Ukrainians, Russians, Poles, …. who perished in that war (nor Germans or Japanese, for that matter). Simple demography refutes holo-deniers.
    You won’t find normal people in Central & Eastern who deny that Jews, their neighbors, had been exterminated, one way or another. Figures of victims vary, but not that much – perhaps 20%, not more. Then, it is extremely difficult to ascertain how many people, by nationality, perished in those vast swaths of earth from Poland to the Urals. Further east, when we come to Cambodia & China- it is next to impossible.

    For Jews, a few things are evident: the shoah & Auschwitz are their central anti-corrosives in the modern world. Old faith has, except in pockets, all but vanished & most ethnic Jews in Western world don’t believe in that set of tales. So, they’re assimilating & the Auschwitz – as the state of mind – presents an emotional rallying point; a huge asset indeed. Just- it seems even that doesn’t work in keeping them together: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-s-education-minister-says-intermarriage-is-like-a-second-holocaust-1.7486330

    Last year, Agriculture Minister Uri Ariel, member of the National Union – one of the member parties to the Union of Right-Wing Parties, sent a letter to employees at his ministry discussing the “assimilation Holocaust.” According to Ariel, “During the Holocaust, we’ve lost about six million Jews. Without at all comparing the two, we’re losing a part of our people to assimilation.”
    Fellow National Union member Eli Ben Dahan said in 2014, while he was deputy minister for religious affairs, that intermarriage are “a silent Holocaust. We must remember that the Jewish people, unfortunately, has gone through a Holocaust. It has been diminishing over the past century … In Europe we have as much as 80 percent intermarriages; in the United States it’s 66 percent. It’s horrible.”

    Hard cheese, old chap! I understand the will to continuity of any group, but visibly a non-recognizable minority is destined to vanish in assimilation- except those who emigrate to their nation-state.

    Arthur Koestler was, after all, right- Jews in the Western (I mean, “white”) world, who want to remain Jews, should emigrate to Israel. Others will be inevitably swallowed in their host countries. Jewish nationalists may get apoplectic fits, they may rise hundreds of millions $, consecrate I don’t know how many monuments – yet, all those efforts are limited.

    Are they completely ineffective?

    Not, in my opinion. Jewy-Jewying drama queens with all their baggage of emotional blackmail, self-centredness & identity-paranoia does have some effect among natives, Euro-people. They get riled up against excessive Jewy whining (similar to ex-wives’ behavior during divorce process) & this may cause some local Jews either to circle the wagons or to move to Israel.

    But, generally- it doesn’t work. You can’t base your identity on atrocities you’ve been victims of. It is not sustainable.

  164. @SolontoCroesus

    Excellent comment. Note how the Zionists wanted Jews out of Germany but blamed the Nazis for wanting it! They pervert, 180, everything they touch!

    And it seems to work rather consistently for them, repeatedly, over long periods of time. Go figure. 🙁

  165. @Truth3

    “Righteousness is what the Evil Ones Hate.”

    Agreed. People who speak and do evil always want others to share in it to boast of their self-righteousness and appease their sense of guilt.

  166. anarchyst says:

    If I were required to “teach” the jewish “holocaust” fable, I would do so from an engineering standpoint.

    Teaching this minor (non) event from an engineering perspective would provide proof that the claims made by so-called jewish “holocaust” survivors are based on outright falsehoods and assumptions, quite often second and third-person claims, that at least should be taken with a grain of salt.

    1. The claim that cremation took only a few minutes is totally false.

    2. The claim that thousands of bodies were gassed or cremated every day is totally false.

    3. The claim that crematorium facilities required little or no maintenance is false.

    4. The claim that “jewish bodies smoke smells different than gentile smoke is false.

    5. The claim that Zyklon B was used as a gas chamber agent is false.

    6. The claim that gassed bodies were of a blue or purple color is false.

    7. The claim that gas chambers without gas-tight doors and ventilation means is false.

    8. The claim that “6 million” were exterminated is false.

    9. The claim that Germany used scarce resources to transport people it intended to exterminate is false.

    There are many more examples of outlandish falsehoods that can be easily debunked from a scientific and engineering standpoint.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  167. FLgeezer says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    Excellent OEMIKITLOB, and keep up the good work!

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  168. @Rational

    Let’s make a deal: We will teach the Holocaust as long as we teach the 60 million Christians killed by the Jewish Bolsheviks who murdered them in Russia. Furthermore, all books by Alexandr Solzhenitsyn must be part of the curriculum.

    I would love to see this introduced and watch the heads of the Magic Jews explode.

    • Agree: mark green, Buck Ransom
  169. FLgeezer says:
    @Art

    amconmag has become yet another mouthpiece for the zionists. They fired Phil Giraldi after all.

    To question zionist orthodoxy would mean the discontinuance of the magazine.

    • Replies: @Art
  170. Look, to act like the Holocaust is a matter of debate, I mean, is just absurd.

    So why is it prohibited to discuss the absurd claims publicly, and people go to jail questioning it all over Europe? Even a mentally disabled child would figure out the why.

    • Agree: Jacques Sheete
    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  171. anarchyst says:

    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent Zionists collaborated with the German government and formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the transfer of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Absolutely nothing about extermination.

    Official International Red Cross figures for all camp deaths total around 731,000-NOT 6 million. In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war.

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build camps hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not add up.

    Something BIG stinks in this whole jewish holocaust deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made deals with the German government in order to make life uncomfortable for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the yellow Star of David armband so that they could be easily identified. German jews considered themselves Germans first and had no desire to emigrate.

    The establishment of a homeland along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist dream since the 1800s. Many periodicals of the day starting with the 1800s touted the “six-million” figure.

    What better way to encourage emigration to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the cream of German society (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish holocaust is out . . .

    As cremation of ONE human body takes hours, the amount of time claimed by holocaust promoters is a physical, scientific and statistical impossibility. Their claims also do not account for the “downtime” that crematoria require for maintenance, etc. In addition, there are no mass burial sites that are commensurate with the claims of “six-million” or even “one-million”. There is also a jewish prohibition on excavation of claimed possible burial sites. WHY?? Because THEY DO NOT EXIST. There is even a prohibition on the use of ground penetrating radar to search for burial sites. WHY?? If millions were gassed and cremated, the activities would have lasted well into the 1950s.

    The so-called jewish holocaust has been turned into a de-facto religion in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish holocaust truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the tribe that FEAR the real truth of the jewish holocaust being exposed is evident. A questionable judicial “trick” used in holocaust trials is that of “judicial notice” in which TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE KANGAROO COURTS THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. Judicial notice, once invoked against a defendant, disallows the introduction of evidence that does not conform to “commonly accepted beliefs” about the “holocaust ™”, EVEN IF THE EVIDENCE EXPOSES THE HOLOCAUST LIES AND FABRICATIONS THAT CAN EASILY BE DEBUNKED. A question for you holocaust promoters-why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth?? What are you afraid of??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a cash cow that keeps on giving. . . there’s NO business like SHOAH business. Zionist complicity in this event is carefully covered up.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question official jewish holocaust orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the official jewish holocaust story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to all things holocaust. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment.

    The latest victims of holocaustianity are Ursula Haverbeck, Monika Schaefer and Sylvia Stolz, who are elderly grandmothers who have been prosecuted and sentenced to maximum-security prison in Germany for incorrect thoughts.

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the chosen) to engineer the jewish holocaust, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish holocaust was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many holocausts of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish holocaust is the only one that counts . . . It is interesting to note that the term holocaust to mean mass extermination was never used during or immediately after WW2, only coming to vogue in the 1960s, when it was noted that false guilt could be assigned and reparations could be procured.

    Look at the commercialization of the so-called jewish holocaust while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish holocaust survivors, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean camp numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and disease-holocaust transference syndrome. You see, children and grandchildren of jewish holocaust survivors are infected with this disease and should also be considered holocaust survivors, eligible for holocaust reparations. According to these jewish psychiatrists, even unrelated individuals can be “infected” with this “malady”.

    Since the Zionist jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a homeland Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Let’s not forget that as “world jewry” declared WAR on Germany in 1933, a book “Germany Must Perish” was authored by Theodore N. Kaufman, a jew, who advocated the complete destruction and extermination of Germany, it’s people and culture, and erasure from the world timeline and history.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish homeland for the last two-hundred years while predicting a holocaust of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures). The International Red Cross had full access to all of the camps for the duration of the war, yet reported NOT ONE INSTANCE of extermination or mass murder.

    Regarding that holocaust showplace Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called gas chambers. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called gassing took place. There is a gas chamber chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the operators of these supposed gas chambers. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these camps.

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported gas chambers, had them tested and published his results. The absence of Prussian blue (ferricyanide) in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the gas chambers did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the chimney for the supposed gas chamber does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter was rewarded for his search for TRUTH with his professional and personal character assassination by those of the tribe. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts law for practicing engineering without a license-a law which had never been used vindictively before or since. . .After his report was published, he was harassed by Israeli “deep state” types (mossad) who he successfully “outed”.

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to create the death camps for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were liberated by the allies, the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be liberated by the Russian allies.

    It is said that the light of day is the best disinfectant in the search for truth Unfortunately this quote does not apply to all things holocaust. It appears that there are those”holocaust promoters who are afraid of the TRUTH. Hence the prosecution and incarceration of those who dare question aspects of this historical event.

    I urge all holocaust believers to check these things out for yourselves IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find.

    • Agree: Robjil
  172. @SolontoCroesus

    I’m not aware of narratives of German brutality comparable to the Japanese tortures Banning experienced and witnessed.

    I have mentioned this before and it merits being mentioned again: But I am always amused by people who on one hand question Allied propaganda concerning Germany, but on the other hand cheerfully swallow Allied propaganda concerning Japan.

    • Agree: Malla
  173. Mr. Giraldi alluded to an article in “The Guardian” in which some Judaists are claiming the progeny of Holocaust survivors may suffer from “genetically inherited trauma (GIT)” I submit that any “epigenetic inheritance” that Jewish boys have stems not from the Holocaust, but from the fact that they were taken as 8 day-old babies to be held down against their will to have the best part of their tiny penis sliced off by a scary bearded Mohel at a Brit Milah. All because Abraham said.

    Are circumcised American baby boys now suffering from the same GIT? The fact that the US goyim have been convinced by the Judaists into believing that it is a good thing to mutilate their baby’s penis, despite his unrelenting screams for help, says quite a bit about the trauma-based mind control that the J Oligarchs have tricked us into.

    I suggest it is possible that our GIT and subservience to our J Masters flows from that. Circumcision, after all, is the Mark of the Slave.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  174. @anarchyst

    Too complex for the masses.
    Ask them why Germany did have an industrial scale defumigation plant in Budapest that can host an entire train? Germany also operated gas tunnels to disinfect trains, which is the reason Zyklon B was produced.
    the problem for the hoaxers, they have never claimed that these industrial scale gas chambers had been used to exterminate jews. They have never claimed that.

    Imagine, trains go in the tunnel, packed with Jews, gas on, train gets disinfected, and trains exit the tunnel without Jews. The dead Jews would stay inside the tunnel, nothing suspicious for the outside. Genius plan, but never claimed by the hoaxers.
    These industrial scale huge gas chambers had ventilation, heaters to gasify the Zyklon B pellets, gas masks for personnel, air tight doors, special coating of the walls etc…

    https://www.historiography-project.com/jhrchives/v08/v08p433_Berg.html

    You could also ask, why this sign has been installed at Dachau. It used to also have a little metal plate in the floor, that read “Made in USA”. “Reconstruction”, similar to the Soviet “reconstruction” at Auschwitz with the dysfunctional chimney, the broken down walls and holes in the roof.

    Additionally, why did the Germans allegedly use ineffective Zyklon B to kill, if they had a considerable storage of Tabun, Soman and Sarin, deadly nerve agents? And why a gas at all, difficult to handle, instead of a cost effective bullet like the Bolsheviks did?

  175. @Jacques Sheete

    Yes, we pay (!) people to poison and indoctrinate the minds of our youth. Laugh or cry, take your pick, Jacques.

    “It’s for the children” is not a new sales-pitch. Prog’s employed it very successfully (though not necessarily with that specific phrase. The underlying [subliminal] message was there and understood, however) in the late-19th/early-20th century and here we are. I highly recommend the late John Taylor Gatto’s works on the subject of “education”.

    It’s interesting how many parents one hears voicing concern about the “failure” of their child(rens) school and how “something has to be done about it”, etc. The naivete of these parents is incredible and it never seems to occur to them that it’s all a matter of perspective. What those parents see as “failure” is actually success to those who conceive the curriculum. Those “schools” are doing exactly what they are designed to do! Hence the reason nothing ever changes.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  176. Rich says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I hate to tell you this, but if you begin to spend any serious time on this issue, you are forced to concede that the “official ” holocaust story is untrue. There is no evidence of gas chambers, no evidence of a “final solution ” order being given and no evidence of mass graves.

    The most probable explanation of large numbers of dead Jews reported by relatives, is that they were part of the huge numbers of civilians who died on both sides of the conflict from bombing, disease or other causes. There would be no reason to forbid research on this event if it were true. Researchers would just come up with more evidence that the event took place.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
    , @Fran Taubman
  177. to senator rick scott and governor ron de santis i have but one (1) word: holodomor.

  178. @Germanicus

    Agree button used. Prohibiting questions about any subject and imprisoning them for questioning is a huge red flag.

  179. S says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    Thanks for the intriguing link.

    I’ve tended to see the US Civil War as a major missed opportunity. When violence became inevitable in early 1861, instead of turning the guns on each other, the guns should have been turned on chattel slave owners (as well as dealers) in the South, and their same ilk in the North with their wage slaves, ie people hiring so called ‘cheap labor’ (aka ‘immigrants’), or promoting the same.

    In both the North and South chattel and wage slavery were ultimately driven by the same desire, to do anything but anything than pay typically their own people the prevailing real time local costs of labor.

    I’m convinced most of them, ‘North’ and ‘South’, given a choice between choosing their own people, or their slaves, chattel or wage, would have readily surrendered, and felt..relieved.

    That’s the war (probably a short one) against slavery that should of been fought. And an honorable non-slave holder such as Robert E Lee would have been just the man to have lead the people of the United States in such a war, with gusto, I have little doubt.

    As things transpired I think Eastwood’ s character in The Outlaw Josey Wales probably said it best:

    ‘I guess we all died a little in that damned war.’

    • Replies: @flashlight joe
  180. An alarmed World Jewish Congress (WJC) is urging required holocaust education for everyone everywhere “citing statistics from a 2018 poll revealing half of millennials can’t name a single Nazi concentration camp.”

    I’m not a millennial and I can name a Nazi concentration camp (several, actually). Can I be excused from the Jewish ideology-injection classes?

    But since I seriously doubt the (((holocaust narrative))), I expect I’ll be required to wear a sleeve patch on all my shirts and coats with a large D for “Denier.”

  181. @FLgeezer

    Thanks, geezer, just doing my small part.

  182. @Rich

    Allow me to add little detail here.
    There is a general problem with the US and Soviet narrative, they clash, which is quite fun if you are aware of it.
    The US basically adopted Soviet narrative, that being “gas showers”, eg Dachau.

    never used as a gas chamber

    Dang, the truth in plain sight.

    However, nowadays, in regard to Auschwitz, the US and associated sides claim, these holes in the roof in Auschwitz the Soviets broke in, served to drop the Zyklon pellets in the room, and they gasified on impact, an absurdity.

    The entire demographics is messed up, considering the Soviets ethnically cleansed 14 million Germans of which about 3 million died, many many Poles, Ukrainians and Hungarians etc…
    Behind the iron curtain, they told us, the heroic red Soviet army soldiers were all victims of the “holocaust”. In fact, the entire Soviet narrative was focused on dead Soviets, not so much Jews, however, as many know, the Soviet Union was a jewish operation.

  183. @Wally

    No, Wally, and I believe you know that. As I said, it is not logical in the form presented and it seems to me that the issue of tattoo’s is a weak/secondary argument on the subject anyway without supporting propositions. It’s easily shot down, so why focus on it?

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  184. Skeptikal says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    I agree with this view, which I believe Ron Unz has also expressed.
    The genocide of Jews did occur.
    But the devil is in the details.
    How many? How many were gassed? How many died of typhus? How many were worked to death?
    The network of different types of camps and slave labor sites, including many agricultural locations, was so great and so protean that the whole picture cannot really be encompassed by the one word “holocaust,” which is “only” about the death camps. But even these camps were not monolithic and ha multiple functions.
    Here at UR it is annoying how manyh commenter spew forth their opinions without knowing much about what actually occurred in Germany and countries farther east, including in, say, Silesia. My ivew is that if you do not speak German you are not qualified to render an informed opinion, because there is too much info that you do not have access to. Also, many translations are misleading.

    Also, obviously, jews were not the only victims of Nazi racial policies.

  185. anarchyst says:
    @follyofwar

    There’s more…the dirty jewish “mohel” fellates the infant after the “deed is done”. This almost always guarantees that, in later life, the circumcisee will have mental problems due to latent STDs introduced by the dirty jewish “mohel”…
    Circumcision is “male genital mutilation” and should be outlawed on a worldwide basis…

  186. Art says:
    @FLgeezer

    amconmag has become yet another mouthpiece for the zionists. They fired Phil Giraldi after all.

    To question zionist orthodoxy would mean the discontinuance of the magazine.

    It is true — eventually Jews destroy everything they touch.

    Jews suck the life and integrity out of everything. They turn the individual spirit of things into being about them and their agenda. Jews turn organizations with independent goals into being about them. They reshape ideas about things into being about them. Everything is remade into their image.

    • Agree: Z-man, OEMIKITLOB
  187. @Skeptikal

    The network of different types of camps and slave labor sites, including many agricultural locations, was so great and so protean that the whole picture cannot really be encompassed by the one word “holocaust,” which is “only” about the death camps.

    You mean, like a greater network of death camps as the Soviet Gulag system?

    The genocide of Jews did occur.

    Erm no, no evidence whatsoever, according to Jan Robert van Pelt, your “expert”.

    Ninety-nine per cent of what we know we do not actually have the physical evidence to prove . . . it has become part of our inherited knowledge.

    https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2009/12/27/a_case_for_letting_nature_take_back_auschwitz.html

    Van Pelt would like to leave it to nature, ie destroy it, before any serious scientific open investigation takes place.

    According to Pressac, another “expert” of yours, only 5% of the Zyklon B was allegedly used to kill Jews. Preposterous claim, but he can’t say 0%, because it would make him a “denier” and open to criminal charges.

    Lets go further and look at what another “expert” of yours had to concede at the Zündel trial, jewish Raul Hilberg. It revealed, he was “at a miss” to provide any conclusive order or document that proves any extermination plan. He had to revise his book to a second edition, he had to take out his claims of documentation, because it was untrue. In fact, he became a revisionist himself, funny.

    Your “experts”, not mine.

  188. Z-man says:

    Holocaustianity. Beware the power of The Cabal.
    Another great article from Phil.

  189. Truth3 says:
    @Skeptikal

    Dying of Typhus is Genocide?

    Then accuse Bomber Command and the USAAC of additional Genocide charges, for the Camp internees that died of Typhus largely due to Allied Bombing.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  190. @Bardon Kaldian

    Holo-deniers are bonkers. There is not much to discuss here. They’re like flat-earthers, just more amusing..

    I think it depends on just what you mean by “Holocaust Denial” in this context. It’s pretty well established that something bad happened to large numbers of Jews, and that the Germans had something to do with it. For example, anyone who wants to deny large-scale executions of Jews by firing squad as part of the Wehrmacht’s counterinsurgency campaign in the occupied areas of the Soviet Union has his work cut out for him, given how well documented this is. But it’s also blindingly obvious that ever since the war, various special interests have expended tremendous amounts of effort (and money) to distort and exaggerate the authentic core of historical truth into a mythic narrative, the details of which are by no means always unassailable. Originally, this was done by the Allies (and the USSR in particular) to demonize the Germans, and in more recent days by Jewish activists and organizations to score points in the victim olympics.

    To see that this is true, all you need to do is to compare an older mainstream history book (say, from the 1950s) with a recent one. They tell very different stories about what we now call the Holocaust, even if both agree that a lot of people died.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  191. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:

    Christian and Islamic scripture, including the New Testament of the Bible, should start carrying warnings for passages deemed “anti-semitic,” a coalition of Jewish groups has asked.

    The European Jewish Congress, which represents several Jewish groups, asked for such changes in its Catalogue of Policies to Combat Antisemitism, released last week.

    “Holy Writ such as the New Testament or the Qur’an, as well as the writings of authoritative religious authors, doctrinal texts and religious laws need to be scrutinized for antisemitic contents,” the document states.

    “In Christianity, such texts would include the writings of saints like Ambrose of Milan or reformers like Martin Luther, the dogmatic tradition, church law and teaching. In Islam, such texts would include different parts of Hadith and Sira. Only when the antisemitic contents in the religious memories of Christianity and Islam are properly identified, will it be possible to combat antisemitism inside the various denominations, groups, and organizations of these two religions.”

    Later on in the recommendations section, the groups ask: “Translations of the New Testament, the Qur’an and other Christian or Muslim literatures need marginal glosses, and introductions

    • Replies: @Hossein
  192. @Truth3

    I would encourage to research the Polish Typhus epidemic of 1916-1919.
    It gives more context, because typhus had occurred in eastern Europe way before WWII, the Soviet “revolution” was the starting point of this epidemic.

    In this context, the Patton diary also sheds some light on the hygiene of the eastern European jews from the Shtetls. And yeah, its embarrassing for the Jews, but they have not changed much in that regard. Ie jewish females are forbidden to clean themselves during menstruation period in some of the jewish circles.

    A little research on Ellis Island and its function as decontamination island before entering NY is also highly informative. They used Zyklon B as well to disinfect clothes and people. There is even film footage of Ellis Island on the internet, showing immigrants getting fumigated with Zyklon.

    Furthermore, the US also operated gas tunnels to disinfect trains.

    The sad truth is, Zyklon B was used to save lives.
    If Germany wanted to kill all the inmates of the camps, they would have just locked the camps up and had them die of Typhus.
    Btw, Auschwitz had only ~40% jewish inmates, the Auschwitz death records revealed it after the collapse of the Soviet Union. It also revealed births in the camps.

    Zyklon was used to fight the Typhus epidemic, which could otherwise spread uncontrolled.

    Typhus carrying lice do not care what belief a human has before biting and infecting the human. These lice travel far with animals and humans.
    Typhus is a danger to ground water and everything, ie you cannot bury typhus infected corpses near settlements, it would contaminate the water supply, hence cremation.

  193. Anon[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The data is bullet proof. Think of all those people with families who went missing.

    States “data is bulletproof”. Proceeds to both not cite “data” nor anything on which “data” is kept, as well as a claim that is certainly not “bulletproof” to prove that the Holocaust happened.

    Your laughable concept of data and proof well sums the Jewish position. Which is why there is so much (ever increasing) insurrection in regard to supposed holocaust history.

    People claim that Jews are smart. Yet, their holocaust arguments are consistently fragile in the face of anyone trained to evaluate levels of evidence or even with an untrained intuition in regard to them.

    The holocaust narrative is failing due to such weak arguments and, of course, due to:

    the strong arming and propaganda that is required to keep people “believing”,
    the lack of allowed debate or free research that itself casts the narrative in doubt,
    the proven and admitted lies in regard to the narrative,
    the pre WWII back history (in print) of Jews claiming that “six million died”,
    the continued political and financial gain in continued narrative-reinforcement,
    and the entire power structure as a whole needed to prop up your claimed “bulletproof” history that is never required to prop up obvious truth.

    The evidence is staggering

    An extraneous statement that does not serve as proof, but serves to illustrate your inability to speak in credible scientific language that would be required to prove your point. Where is your “staggering evidence”. Provide it for debate or STFU.

    and cross checked with computer models.

    What computer models? Where? Provide it or STFU.

    Is dissenting evidence or arguments against the validity of these models allowed or is it suppressed, or even punished?

    If its the latter, which it is, then your models are scientifically invalid because they are not open to peer revue in an uncorrupted academic milieu.

    That’s how science and proof works, which is why the holocaust narrative is a running historical joke.

    Such “computer models” will never be truly open to peer revue, and thus actually stand to condemn the holocaust narrative as protected probable lies (the only evidence that needs to be protected from peer review is false evidence).

    It is up to the deniers to prove it did not happen.

    First, that’s untrue. No observation, in nature or history, has to be proven to not exist. Again, that’s not how science works. Observation of events/data, the root of science, is required to prove that an event/data exists. That positive act is required for proof, and for that positive action to be valid it needs to be subject to continuous and open peer review. Which the holocaust is not.

    Again, for observation to be considered to be valid science / history, open peer review is required of its occurence or historicity. The lack of open review is a lack of scientific / historical validity in itself, and open suppression of it is strong prima facie evidence of scientific / historical fraud.

    Holocaust so-called evidence does not exist that is not low level evidence and ripe for severe open critique, or that is not outright invalid. Your “families went in and did not come out” is an example of such low level claims that any first year graduate student would readily tear to shreds in an evidence critique while watching spongebob and doing one or two other things at the same time. Its that weak.

    The evidence against the holocaust is wide and deep, and that’s before we get to the 100% proven lies and admissions that Jews still often claim as evidence.

    You should watch the movie Shoa by Claude Landsman 1987, he secretly records the train drives and locals. The testimony is there from non Jews.

    There you go again, impugining your own observed ability to gauge what is real or evidence. Testimony is not evidence, especially in a propaganda film, especially in post WWII Europe wherein people were fighting not to be shot, fighting for food, and general survival. Not to mention from people whose actual background is unknowable, to include their actual history in the camps.

    Again, this is the large and obvious pro-holocaust coercion force working against your witness credibility. It continues to exert its credibility corrupting force every chance that it gets, until the present day. To include the threat of job loss that was brought down on the head of the hs personnel that is the subject of the article’s story.

    You have no valid evidence.
    You have no credible witnesses.
    Your side exerts its assertions through threats and punishment.
    Nothing in history with such a dismal profile has lasted.

    Bide your time, but trying to make your points here is like walking blindfolded into the heart of an ever growing hurricane and trying to stop it with your index finger. The only result is that you get that finger snapped off and learn what your future under that inevitable historical hurricane really is.

  194. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Rich

    Here is the thing, and you write like people are insane. Most of the Jews I know who’s family grandparents etc, where humiliated and did not want to acknowledge or deal with what happened.
    And here is the real definitive proof of the matter. The Jews were rounded up as families (extended families) and transported to the camps. There is documented evidence of this. When they got off the train. The children were separated from their parents. Most children never saw their parents after arrival. On the platform the people were chosen to either work or to go to the gas chambers where they were told they were going to take showers and work. They never came out of the building.
    So during the liberation there was maybe one or two family members if that remaining. The other people died in those buildings that they entered.
    There were lines and separations and lost people. There were ovens and piles of shoes and hair and obviously dead people.
    That is the way it worked. If you went someplace as a group with your family and 3 or 4 went to the bathroom and never came out, never to be found. Do you understand there is just people and families. In the end that is all there is. These people have photos of their families. They went somewhere and they saw their family members go into a building and never come out. They did not wish this to be the case. They have no reason to make it up. They were devastated.
    The building their family members went into had a smoke stack that ran night and day. It also had ovens with slabs for human bodies.
    That is all you need to know, nothing else. Imagine if that was you arriving on that train say age 12 and being ripped from your parents and siblings. You see them go and that is the end.
    That is the end. !!! There are really good photos of the transport trains and the people on the platform. Universally everyone explained that the SS separated people for work and or death.
    People went into a building with a smoke stack and never came out. All of those people in different camps and the liberators are not lying. They would give anything to have their families back. Most never really recovered.
    It is a human story you can see videos of people talking about it. Are you a human with a family. I hope they never disappear on you.

    It is not a scientific story that needs science to prove, it is a human story about dead people and survivors.

  195. Anon[178] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s Jewish religious scripture (cultural value) to accuse their enemies of “crime after crime” as a political tactic (implying lies), a fact which also impugns Holocaust narrative credibility.

    Its equivalent to a criminal claiming credibility on a fraud insurance claim when the police have his writing that openly states his intent to defraud (lie) in regard to the insurance claim.

    Psalm 69

    22May the table set before them become a snare;

    may it become retribution and a trap.

    23May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see,

    and their backs be bent forever.

    24Pour out your wrath on them;

    let your fierce anger overtake them.

    25May their place be deserted;

    let there be no one to dwell in their tents.

    26For they persecute those you wound

    and talk about the pain of those you hurt.

    27Charge them with crime upon crime;

    do not let them share in your salvation.

    28May they be blotted out of the book of life

    and not be listed with the righteous.

  196. @exiled off mainstreet

    Adolf Eichmann when on trial for his life in Israel said that the Germans murdered 5 plus million Jews.

  197. @Bardon Kaldian

    Here is the problem:

    Those that do not intentionally peddle lies (they may be wrong, but that is a different issue) discuss things along this line, only dealing with the story:

    What?
    Where, when?
    Who?
    Why?
    How?

    The intentional deceiver attack along the line:

    Who? (within the story)
    Who? (with respect to their debating opposite)
    Why? (with respect to their debating opposite)
    .
    (usually it doesn’t get beyond this because the truth seekers debate ‘what’, don’t engage the ad hominem speculation, and one hissy fit return serve later, they are out, but..)
    .
    Why/how/when/where/what?

    Your whole point is on ‘who’, there is no counterpoint to Eisenhower’s, Churchill’s, De-Gaulle’s silence on the issue – even though they should have had the info. No discounting the coke shipment statistics for the crematoria, no discussion of ground water levels and the impossibility of burials (or even discarding of bones), no explanation why Germans neither recorded their acts in documentary fashion, or didn’t just throw the helpless 6 million off a cliff (the Mongols, Chinese, Turks would have certainly found a cheaper way to kill 6 million), etc, etc.

    We, the revisionists, discuss ‘what’ first, and ‘who’ somewhere down the line.

    Anyone that pokes the speaker first, fears the words of the speaker. Simple. An intelligent person does not fear false information – it is false.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  198. Wally says:
    @Skeptikal

    said:
    “The genocide of Jews did occur.”

    Really? We notice the lack of specifics and of course, proof.
    – So then, simple, show us the claimed immense human remains said to be in known locations.
    – Tell us how the laughable ‘gas chambers’ supposedly worked.

    said:
    “My ivew is that if you do not speak German you are not qualified to render an informed opinion, because there is too much info that you do not have access to. Also, many translations are misleading.
    Also, obviously, jews were not the only victims of Nazi racial policies.”

    – Yawn.
    Revisionist researchers have seen everything, regardless of language, many are fluent German speakers.
    – But hey, please tell us what “information” you claim to be talking about.
    – And, who else have Zionists included in their attempt to buy votes? Gypsies, homosexuals? LOL. Revisionists been there done that too.
    We await.


    Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the laughable ‘holocaust’ storyline is the message.

  199. @OEMIKITLOB

    I agree with all, and would second the endorsement of Gatto’s works.

  200. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Everyone knows no such thing, any more than everyone knows that the official account of the Holocaust is the truth. Since actual historical and scientific research of the episode is verboten, all we have is claims on all sides.

    This is true. From the facts that I have seen, the evidence just isn’t there to establish the Mandatory Version of History: i.e., That Hitler ordered the extermination of the Jews, which was carried out by deliberately murdering 6 million Jews in death camps with gas chambers.

    That said, the likely truth is still bad enough: That is, the Nazi “Final Solution” was to intern the Jews, expropriate their property, and eventually banish them to some pale of settlement in the East (if not Madagascar, Palestine, or somewhere else). Thus, they were rounded up and sent to work camps where they suffered mass casualties due to overwork, disease, and malnutrition. (With a casualty rate similar to other interned groups, like Russian POWs). This probably resulted in about 1.5 million Jews killed.

    I’d love to see the actual facts explicated and proved one way or the other. If the official Mandatory Version of History has the facts to back it up, I’ll accept it. But I haven’t seen those facts — just a lot of people saying it’s impermissible to even question the official narrative.

  201. @Fran Taubman

    Pssst, Linda, I regret to inform you that you are at Unz Review. That means that the only ones here who’ll buy your story are the usual trolls. Additionally, this is the 21st century and no one with a brain believes that old propaganda any longer.

    Sorry!

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  202. @Fran Taubman

    It is not a scientific story that needs science to prove, it is a human story about dead people and survivors.

    Let me get your jewish warped view here. You people claim a crime happened, but you will persecute and prosecute any investigator who deviates from your unproven claims? An investigator will scientifically look at the murder plan, which you fail to provide. Next he will look at the alleged murder weapon, which you claim is Zyklon B, but you fail to claim the alleged murder took place in one of these huge industrial gas chambers and gas tunnels. And finally, an investigator looks at tertiary evidence, witnesses, who basically claim physically and scientifically impossible things, partially extracted by torture, threats and intimidation.

    If you claimed Germans murdered billions of tiny typhus carrying lice, it would be ridiculous, but essentially the truth about the lice-o-cide to save human lives.

    If you people had not been the fifth column of Moscow and terrorist Bolshevism, who did acts of sabotage, political murders and terrorism, you would not had been incarcerated at all, but eventually shipped to Palestine under the Haavara agreement. This agreement stopped, because you dragged the US into the war and basically broke the agreement.

    Are these “computer models” the same quality as your ridiculous “climate models” the black cube “D-wave” spits out? Any programmer knows, garbage in, garbage out.

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  203. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    An intelligent person who knows survivors, knows the truth. They do not have to prove it. It is the truth. It is up to the revisionist to prove it did not happen. If you were the sole survivor of your family, wouldn’t you know the truth? That your family perished in a camp where you survived. Arrival to a place and disappearance. Otto Frank is the sole survivor of his family. His two daughters died of typhus in a camp. His wife died of starvation in the camp.
    He had a wife and two daughters that died. He survived. There are countless stories like this.
    They people who survived know the truth. They do not need to proove the opposite.
    The proof is the survivors.
    The rest is nonsense. You know if your family is gone. It is not a grey area. All those people arriving in Palestine were the sole survivors of their families.
    The rest is garbage. Like trying to thread a needle with the Zykon b did or did it not kill/

  204. Jake says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Christianity is in many ways counterintuitive: it often seems just wrong.

    But then again, almost of us driving and hitting an ice patch instinctively want to turn the wheel the wrong way, which makes the spin much worse. The ‘right’ way is counterintuitive.

    When the Goths sacked the city of Rome in 410 AD, the Catholic Church was probably only the 3rd largest self-professed Christian body in the city, which had at least as many nominal pagans as it had professed Christians. The Arian heretics and the Valentinian Gnostic heretics both were larger in number than the Catholics. Rome also had other, smaller groups of Gnostic heretics, as well as a couple of groups of professed Jewish Christians who were 100% Judaizers (for example, all men had to be circumcised, and they followed Jewish dietary laws, which mark Gentiles as unclean). And a small group of Marcionite heretics also remained in Rome.

    The Goths, by the way, were about two thirds Germanic pagan and one third Arian heretic, probably mixed strongly with Hellenistic paganism and perhaps with Judaizing ideas that fit easily with Arianism.

    So Catholics were a small minority in Rome when the Goths sacked the city. And nowhere in the Western Empire were Catholics even half the population. And yet Catholics saved civilization after pagans, the vast majority of them Germanic, destroyed it.

    The Modern world, which was birthed in rebellion against Christ and Christendom, is returning the world to the Dark Ages. Civilization worth having will be rebuilt the way it was before: by the Catholic Church.

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  205. @John Regan

    Sorry,but I’ve already wasted too much time on this irrelevant issue. 1-2 reposts.

    I do get Jews’ obsession with shoah, but I hardly get “denialists’”” stance: this did happen, but is, due to Jewish media influence in Western societies, overblown out of proportion. No one with sane mind in Poland, Hungary, Greece, Ukraine or Russia will deny that many or most Jews were systematically murdered. This is not even the topic. What they would, reasonably, argue with that Jewish nationalists’ constant drumming on the theme & emotional blackmail in trying to extort as much money as possible and advance their tribalist interests at the expense of the natives’ is simply unacceptable.

    Both Irving and Goldhagen are to be despised. So far, the best holocaust book I’ve read- this is not the topic I am too interested in- is Kershaw’s collection of essays:

    ——————————

    One thing, among propaganda left & right, seems to be neglected: sheer number of prominent Jews (or people of Jewish extraction) who perished during WWII. If we can say, with certainty that:

    1. great mathematician Felix Hausdorff was a victim of “racial” persecution: http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Hausdorff.html

    Bonn University requested that the Hausdorffs be allowed to remain in their home and this was granted. By October 1941 they were forced to wear the “yellow star” and around the end of the year they were informed that they would be sent to Cologne. Bessel-Hagen wrote that he knew this was (see [24] and [6]):-

    … a preliminary to deportation to Poland. And what one hears concerning the accommodation and treatment of Jews there is completely unimaginable.

    They were not sent to Cologne but in January 1942 they were informed that they were to be interned in Endenich. Together with his wife and his wife’s sister, he committed suicide on 26 January. He wrote to a friend on Sunday 25 January (see [24] and [6]):-

    Dear Friend Wollstein
    By the time you receive these lines, we three will have solved the problem in another way – in the way which you have continually attempted to dissuade us. …
    What has been done against the Jews in recent months arouses well-founded anxiety that we will no longer be allowed to experience a bearable situation. …
    Forgive us, that we still cause you trouble beyond death; I am convinced that you will do what you are able to do (and which perhaps is not very much). Forgive us also our desertion! We wish you and all our friends will experience better times
    Yours faithfully
    Felix Hausdorff

    On the night of Sunday 25 January all three took barbiturates. Both Hausdorff and his wife Charlotte were dead by the morning of the 26 January. Edith, Charlotte’s sister, survived for a few days in a coma before dying.

    2. Chekhov’s fiance Dunya Efros was gassed in Nazi CC, after being handed over by Vichy government. She was in her 80s. See, for instance, Rayfiled’s celebrated bio: http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=490A9DAACAF1878F0798ACB15CA67D4D

    3. Kafka’s sisters all perished.

    https://www.butterfliesintheghetto.com/?tag=franz-kafkas-family

    Another fact that is seldom mentioned about Franz Kafka is that his closest sister ended up in Terezin. Franz’s three younger siblings, his sisters Ellie, Valli, and Ottilie all died in the Holocaust.

    4.Freud’s sisters

    http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/ghettos/freud.html

    Freud’s Sisters and the Holocaust

    Freud’s sisters

    Three of Freud’s sisters Marie, Pauline Winternitz, and Rosa Graf-Freud were deported to Treblinka, on Transport Number BQ on the 23 September 1942 and murdered, in the gas chambers.

    An eyewitness has recorded that one of Freud’s sisters, possibly Rosa, approached SS- Untersturmfuhrer Kurt Franz on the ramp and asked “to be given lighter walk on account of her poor health.”

    Franz “assured her that her arrival in Treblinka was a mistake, in view of her poor health and that as soon as she had had her bath, she would be put on the first available train back to Vienna. “

    Freud lost another sister Adolfine who was born in 1862 in Vienna. Deported to Theresienstadt she died on the 5 February 1943 from internal haemorrhaging.

    So-if those “famous” (or relatives & acquaintances of the “famous”..) simply vanished into the night, and we know about them- what about vastly numerous “others” ?

    I am against all brainwashing & taboos, but hard-core holo-deniers, whichever their motives, seem to me a bunch of lunatics not worthy to be bothered about.
    ————————————————————————-

    Strange how many people are obsessing about Jewish victimhood during WWII. How can they, then, explain that way too many Jews in Europe disappeared? Vast swaths of their population in Poland, Ukraine, Romania, Belarus, Russia, Netherlands, Hungary,…- gone irreversibly.

    I don’t know the exact figure, but most historians agree that number would be somewhere from 5 to 6 million.

    http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm

    Holocaust

    Extermination of the Jews: [make link]:

    Reitlinger, Gerald, The Final Solution (1953): between 4,194,200 and 4,851,200 (this number is accepted by Kinder, The Anchor Atlas of World History (1978))
    Brzezinski: 5,000,000
    Chirot: 5,100,000
    3,000,000 in death camps.
    1,300,000 massacred.
    800,000 by dis./maln. in ghettos
    David E. Stannard, “The Politics of Genocide Scholarship,” in Alan S. Rosenbaum, ed., Is the Holocaust Unique? Perspectives on Comparative Genocide (1996), p. 178. By one estimate, 2.4 million of the 5.1 million victims of the Holocaust died of disease in ghettos and concentration camps.
    Rummel: 5,291,000
    Grenville: 5-6M
    Davies, Europe A History (1998): avg. c. 5,571,300 (puts the minimum at 4,871,000 and the maximum at 6,271,500.)
    MEDIAN: ca. 5.6M
    Nuremberg indictment: 5,700,000 (accepted by Britannica)
    Gutman, Encyclopedia of the Holocaust (1990): 5,596,029 to 5,860,129
    P. Johnson: 5,800,000
    Wallechinsky: “nearly” 6,000,000
    Urlanis: 6M

    As for “who killed most”, opinions are divided:

    http://necrometrics.com/tyrants.htm

    Question: Who was the Bloodiest Tyrant of the 20th Century?

    Answer: We don’t know.

    1. Mao- 40M
    Hitler- 34M
    Stalin- 20M

    2. Hitler- 34M
    Stalin-20M
    Mao-10M

    3. Stalin -20M
    Hitler-15
    Mao-10M

    4. Hitler-34M
    Stalin-20M
    Mao-10M
    ..
    So, the answer to the question of “Who is roasting on the hottest fires in Hell?” is “Well, that depends…”

    As for general WWII victimology, there are too many variables:
    https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

    Research Starters: Worldwide Deaths in World War II
    ………………..

    China 20,000,000
    Germany 6,600,000-8,800,000
    Soviet Union 24,000,000
    ……….

    So, while ethnic Jewish activists can be criticized for focusing exclusively on their people’s suffering, while ignoring more numerous & drastic that had befallen other peoples, I don’t see how holo deniers can hold their ground.

    Their position is simply untenable & ludicrous.

  206. Hossein says:

    Why the US and Europe allow such assault on their freedom and rights is beyond imagination.

    This is outrageous and an assault on American educational system , freedom of speech and ultimateley personal liberty.

    I believe the victime of this horrendous witch hunt should use the first amendment and drag those that are trying to destroy his life and the constitution to the court of law and expose their tyranny,hypocicy and their anti democratic crusade .

  207. turtle says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    Livestock are oftentimes branded and killed.

    Yes, but they are not branded at the slaughterhouse, just prior to execution, AFAIK.
    Livestock are branded (earmarked, ear tagged, electronically chipped, etc.) as a mark of ownership.
    IOW, they are valuable property, as are/were human slaves.
    The OP asserted that tattooing was evidence of mass murder.
    I assert that the presence of a tattoo is evidence for the use of the tattooed as slave labor, i.e. an organism of at least minimal value alive, not an animal about to be slaughtered.
    Whether mass murder occurred, and in what numbers, is another question entirely, IMO.
    The OP’s choice of “evidence” is incorrect.

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  208. Anonymous[391] • Disclaimer says:

    Holocaust has turned into a giant locust… or Holocust. It’s a plague that descends on the world to make people submit to Jewish Supremacism.

  209. Hossein says:
    @anon

    Most likely the “Christians” will bow and bend their knees for their Zionist masters but Muslims?

    Never.

    • Replies: @anon
  210. anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robert Dolan

    The nose is destroying all of Christendom to render the world “holocaust-proof” and user friendly for the jewish tribe.

    How does that make sense? The “holocaust” only holds meaning in the pagan-godless Christendom (code for western feckless c* nations). The rest of the world couldn’t give a rat’s ass for all that perfidious joobile…

    The jooscum needs the pagan-godless Christendom, as much as those humanimals need air to survive. They just want a castrated Christendom. They are well advanced in reaching this goal. 😀

  211. Zumbuddi says:

    All irrelevant because all the wrong questions.

    The proper questions go to causation– culpability for setting the ear in motion. That lies squarely and inarguably in the camp of the Allies, with Jews playing the role Yuri Slezkine ascribed to them in The Jewish Century: that of Mercurians, trickster middle-man, facilitators, brokers.

    In analyzing causality, or perpetrators of a crime, i.e., the usual question is, cui bono? Who benefits (ed)?

    Again, the Allies (except for UK & France, and Italy) , and especially Zionist Jews, were clear beneficiaries: As Michael Hudson explained in an interview w/ Bonnie Faulkner, Henry Morgenthau (FDR’s Handler) created the dollar-as-world-currency ,& World Bank, IMF & SWIF, at Bretton Woods in 1944.

    Jews brokered the war as a means of
    –> getting rid of surplus/useless/low IS jews;
    –> migrating skilled & wealthy Jews to Palestine to establish & finance the Zionist project;
    –> migrating the Air IS of what Herzl called “mediocre intellectuals” to USA , to begin the process of the complete Jewish takeover of that benighted country. Jews always migrate to where the money is.
    –> Cementing Jews in the Levant, a toehold to an attempt to dominate the entire region

    Allies and Jews perpetrated the cri.e: they started an unnecessary war, deliberately, and with the intention of destroying Germany.

    Citing unsubstantiable body-counts as “evidence” of the graver criminal makes no sense whatsoever, particularly when no proof exists of either a person is, indeed, dead, nor that This party did the killing.
    I

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  212. @Fran Taubman

    You speak of witness testimony as truth. There is memory, and it’s failures – I was confident that I at age 8 walked outside my parent’s Moscow flat with my G-ma, only socks on. It is vivid. I remember the rust on the door to tye entry to the block of flats, the snow piles on the side of the road, my socks flailing above the slosh of the pedestrian side walk. My grandma never walked me to school. She worked 24/7 to push her family forward (hence G-ma).

    Individual memory is subjective.

    Documentary evidence is not.

    The latter is what the law prefers to rely on.

    There is no documentary evidence of the Holocaust. Some torture induced confessions – great! How we love an inquisition!!

    War separates people. The Soviets didn’t reunite families. They shipped the remainders off left right and centre. Lost families are a part of war. I have no history of my (Russian/Ukrainian) family before 1940/1917.. this is a fact of war.

    Zyklon B is not threading a needle. Not like human memory. Chemistry is consistent – unlike the human mind. HCN is not pretty, and it is not the method of choice a linear mind like the German mind would use for extermination. Look at the Turks – surely less smart than the Krauts, but they didn’t even spend the bullets. In the hear of WWI, they marched the poor fuckers to death. The Chinese sawed criminals in half to save the cost of the bullet – see a pattern?!

    But the industrial and enterprising Germans – they chose the most convoluted, the most complex, the most technologically demanding, the most risky method for snuffing human capital (they would not have treated your or my ancestors as anything more, I grant you that), instead of just saving the guard duty and putting a bullet in every Jew, Roma, Slav, etc etc?

    They were surrounded by four Empires. How dumb do you think they were to wipe out functional labour?

    I agree – families disappeared. But this is just a fact of war. A war, organised Jewry started in 1933, and must have continued in 1939, as Hitler was not big on compound interest and private central banking.

    You mention typhus and starvation. Sure. But this is not gassing, nor the intention to wipe out a race/ethnicity. Please provide further evidence as to your belief in the German intention of genocide.

    • Agree: Robjil, Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  213. Robjil says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    All of Central and Eastern Europe was a wreck after WWII. There was mass movements of people of all ethnic groups. The largest mass movement after the war was the German one. It was the largest one in human history. Looking at who was in each nation before the war does not prove any genocide. The Jewish H was a mass movement too.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/expulsion-germans-forced-migration_b_1625437?guccounter=1

    14 million Germans were forced to leave their ancestral homes.

    Orwell greatly underestimated both the determination and the ambition of the Allied leaders’ plans. What neither he nor anybody else knew was that in addition to the displacement of the 7-8 million Germans of the East, Churchill, U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt and Soviet leader Joseph Stalin had already agreed to a similar “orderly and humane” deportation of the more than 3 million German-speakers — the “Sudeten Germans” — from their homelands in Czechoslovakia. They would soon add the half-million ethnic Germans of Hungary to the list.

    Although the governments of Yugoslavia and Romania were never given permission by the Big Three to deport their German minorities, both would take advantage of the situation to drive them out also.

    By mid-1945, not merely the largest forced migration but probably the largest single movement of population in human history was under way, an operation that continued for the next five years. Between 12 and 14 million civilians, the overwhelming majority of them women, children and the elderly, were driven out of their homes or, if they had already fled the advancing Red Army in the last days of the war, forcibly prevented from returning to them.

    German refugees were put in camps.

    From the beginning, this mass displacement was accomplished largely by state-sponsored violence and terror. In Poland and Czechoslovakia, hundreds of thousands of detainees were herded into camps — often, like Auschwitz I or Theresienstadt, former Nazi concentration camps kept in operation for years after the war and put to a new purpose.

    The regime for prisoners in many of these facilities was brutal, as Red Cross officials recorded, with beatings, rapes of female inmates, gruelling forced labour and starvation diets of 500-800 calories the order of the day. In violation of rarely-applied rules exempting the young from detention, children routinely were incarcerated, either alongside their parents or in designated children’s camps. As the British Embassy in Belgrade reported in 1946, conditions for Germans “seem well down to Dachau standards.”

    Death rates were very high for these German refugees in the camps.

    Though the death rates in the camps were often frighteningly high — 2,227 inmates of the Mysłowice facility in southern Poland alone perished in the last ten months of 1945 — most of the mortality associated with the expulsions occurred outside them.

    No trains or cars were used to get these refugees to rump Germany.

    Forced marches in which inhabitants of entire villages were cleared at fifteen minutes’ notice and driven at rifle-point to the nearest border, accounted for many losses. So did train transports that sometimes took weeks to reach their destination, with up to 80 expellees crammed into each cattle car without adequate (or, occasionally, any) food, water or heating.

    No help from Allies even in rump Germany.

    The deaths continued on arrival in Germany itself. Declared ineligible by the Allied authorities to receive any form of international relief and lacking accommodation in a country devastated by bombing, expellees in many cases spent their first months or years living rough in fields, goods wagons or railway platforms.

    No one knows how many died in these long forced marches.

    Malnutrition, hypothermia and disease took their toll, especially among the very old and very young. Although more research is needed to establish the total number of deaths, conservative estimates suggest that some 500,000 people lost their lives as a result of the operation.

    Ironically the Nuremberg trials was going on while this happened.

    Not only was the treatment of the expellees in defiance of the principles for which the Second World War had professedly been fought, it created numerous and persistent legal complications. At the Nuremberg trials, for example, the Allies were trying the surviving Nazi leaders on charges of carrying out “deportation and other inhumane acts” against civilian populations at the same moment as, less than a hundred miles away, they were engaging in large-scale forced removals of their own.

  214. Anon[427] • Disclaimer says:

    I remember reading that after “Perestroika” the Russian wartime records were released, which showed that more Christians than Jews died at the wartime labour complex that was Austwich.

    (Sorry! I comment so rarely that I forget what name I’ve commented under in the past. There are so many excellent articals and so many very well informed readers on this site, that I’m honestly a little bit intimidated. I don’t have that problem with the Spectator, Telegraph etc. Thank You.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  215. Truth3 says:

    The Typhus as a cause of Jewish (and other) deaths in the camps is an embarrassment to Jews.

    Using Zyklon B to fumigate their clothing from the lice they brought INTO the camps also embarrasses them.

    Shaving their heads (men and women both, but especially women) to save them from their lice that they CAME with is another monster embarrassment to them.

    The Jews lack of hygiene (and if you know anything about true Germans, they are extremely careful about hygiene) forced these actions.

    Nothing the Germans did says homicide was the goal… no, it is the opposite. Germans risked their lives caring for the camp inmates (doctors, administration, officers, etc.).

    With such a mountain of embarrassment, the Jews HAD to lie about what happened… and so they did in such incredibly phantasmic fashion.

    Electrocution by barbed wire? No.

    Shrunken Heads and Human Skin Lampshades? No.

    Shower Heads that spewed poison gas? No.

    RJF / RIF Soap Bars meaning “Pure Jewish Fat”? No… regardless what Wikipedia says.

    Extensive and systematic Experiments on Camp inmates? No.

    Soviet Submarine or Tank Diesel Engine gassing 900,000 Jews at Treblinka? No.

    Burning 500,000, 700,000, 900,000 bodies at Treblinka on wooden pyres? No.

    Gassing 800 to 2000 victims from a not airtight morgue room, built in 1946, then hauling them out one at a time with hooks through one wooden door that is easily opened from inside, with no ventilation facility, and Jewish Sonderkommandos saying the bodies were blue and green (cyanide poisoning causes reddened skin) because they saw the walls of the delousing chambers bleed blue cyanide compounds… No F Way.

    Jewish domination of Soviet Union from 1917 to 1953? Yes. Absolutely. They are proud of it.

    NKVD and other Jewish Soviet organs massacring 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 million Christians? Yes.

    Embarrassed are they? Jews looking to lie about it all? Damn right.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  216. Anonymous[825] • Disclaimer says:

    Watch out UR readers and holocaust deniers! They’ll throw your a$$es in jail. The inquisition is in full attack mode. We’re talking about the unprecedented imposition of thought control here. And in no less a country than the “leader of the free world”. Mind blowing stuff really.

  217. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    LOL If your family went missing you would know it happened.
    what nut jobs you are.

  218. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Jake

    Are you a Sedevacantists? Anti Vatican 2?

  219. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Robjil

    Shit happens when you take on the world and lose and your leader holds up in a bunker while there are 13 year olds defending him, until he killed himself.
    Blame the German leaders for what happened to the Germans. They could have surrendered along the way.

  220. @Richard B

    Once again, we have the attempt to place Jewish Supremacy Inc. above criticism.

    “WW I and WW II stunned the Europeans an European descendants, who have had a sort of PTSD for a three generations now. _That’s_ the problem.”

    If you read a bit further, the message points out that simple law enforcement against what R. Unz descrebes as Jewish gangsters in the 1950s would have saved California. The post suggests that _failure to arrest_ was the problem. It’s still the problem now. This seems to me to be quite different from putting anything illegal above criticism.

    You remind me of the man in one of R. A. Lafferty’s novels (_5th mansions, maybe) who went to tell the Pope that there were evil men in the world. The Pope knows this, believe it or not, and the real question is what to do about it. The Republican establishment in California apparently decided to do nothing about it except perhaps accept any available money; so did the Democratic establishment. That was the fundamental problem.

    If the entire Jewish establishment were to be, as a reward for piousness, taken up to Heaven at this very moment, the remnants of Anglo Saxon America’s situation would not be improved _if_ they continue to take the money and wink at illegalities.

    Counterinsurency

    Counterinsurgency

  221. @Zumbuddi

    Hey Zumbuddi!

    Am obligated to get you to listen to my “Homeland’s” Commander in Chief on the Holocaust, 2017.🙄 And uh, (💤igh), don a yarmulke, & repent?

    Thanks & my respect, Zumbuddi.

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  222. Tusk says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Don’t forget that Abraham Bomba who gave the prisoners a haircut in the chamber, to send the hair off to make mattresses for the German women, NOT to get rid of lice which spreads typhus, just before they were ‘gassed’.

    https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/oral-history/abraham-bomba-describes-gassing-operations-at-treblinka

    Like the lamp shades and the soap, hair being used for mattresses is utterly moronic so the question is why was the efficient nazi death machine, so capable of murdering jews, going to hold up their process by giving them all haircuts? Like all stories to do with the holocaust they’re utterly absurd because they’re either delusional or completely fabricated.

  223. @Rational

    “Everybody knows the holocaust is a hoax.”

    Okay wise guy, so then how do you explain that roomful of old shoes in that museum in DC, hmmmmm?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Andre Citroen
  224. Theodore says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    You morons seem to imagine that there are two possibilities, and two only:

    1. That there was a Holocaust exactly as described, which killed six million Jews

    Or

    2. There was no such thing at all, and it is all a myth.

    Actually it’s quite a bit more nuanced than that

    Check out:

    False Claims about Revisionists: http://germarrudolf.com/en/germars-views-2/101-false-claims-about-revisionism/

    Intro to Historical Revisionism: http://vho.org/Intro/GB/index.html

    Dissecting the Holocaust: http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/

  225. @Fran Taubman

    Great, I guess all those millions of black children who grew up without their fathers just “know” what happened to their missing families: the Germans rounded them up in camps, tried to murder them with tattoo needles, and finally gassed them with insecticide, then burned their bodies in wood-fired pizza ovens.

    No wonder they keep banging on about reparations.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  226. Art says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Blame the German leaders for what happened to the Germans. They could have surrendered along the way.

    Boy – you sure get mean real quick!

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  227. nickels says:

    Well, at least we have Trump.

    Lol.

  228. Anonymous[700] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buck Ransom

    Sllaaaam dunk.

    No way y’ns deniers can refute THAT one.

  229. @Tusk

    @Linda

    Germany was a country that did not have sufficient sources of energy to power its war effort. So where did it find the vast resources of energy that were required to cremate six million bodies? In any of the Allies’ aerial photos of the camps, is there any evidence of what this energy supply would have been?

    Asking for a friend.

    • Replies: @Tusk
    , @Fran Taubman
  230. @OEMIKITLOB

    Wally,

    I just wanted to follow up to be clear:

    I am simply saying that it is a non-sequitur for one to say that because people were given tattoo’s that they were not therefore killed just as it is a non-sequitur to say that they were given tattoo’s and they were killed.

    Neither one of those arguments is logical.

    I am not taking a defense of either position.

    • Replies: @Wally
  231. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Yo germ they did not grow up missing their father they went to camp and he disappeared into a building, and never came out. How complicated is that. Same with his mother and sister.
    GET IT! people disappeared before their very eyes. They were not thinking of reparations they wanted their family back.

  232. Zumbuddi says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Only Jews are gawdz children?

  233. Wally says:
    @Fran Taubman

    LOL Linda.
    There are more so called “survivors / eyewitnesses” to witchcraft than to the equally impossible claims of the laughable “holocaust”.
    There are court records and leading thinkers who ‘proved’ that witchcraft was fact.

    “Intelligent people” are able to determine that if something cannot happen , then it did not happen.

    Revisionist have already proven “that it didn’t happen”:
    – The gassing claims are scientifically impossible.
    – The alleged immense human remains for million upon millions said to exist in known locations do not exist and you cannot show them to us.

    We also note that you have dodged all the information here that blows away your juvenile Zionist horseshit.

    here’s more:
    The alleged Auschwitz homicidal gassing process reviewed and demolished here.
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11143&p=83723&hilit=model+asmarques#p83723

    Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the laughable ‘holocaust’ storyline is the message.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  234. getaclue says:
    @exiled off mainstreet

    Adolf Eichmann said that? Hmmm I read that the Jews had a nice method of how do say it “ball crushing” or threatening same to those who knew they would in order to get the terrible Nazzzzis to comply with their “history’ of things…others may have come across this also?

  235. @Fran Taubman

    “They weren’t thinking of reparations”

    And yet somehow, nobody knows why, they wound up with the fattest reparations windfall in human history.

    And then they built up an entire massive worldwide industry to keep the reparations coming in perpetuity.

    And then they started arresting anyone who questioned the basis for extracting all these rivers of gold.

    And somehow also avoided paying any reparations themselves, for the tens of millions of Russians and Ukrainians they themselves murdered, prior to the start of all this madness.

    And you’re asking us to just take their word for it, about /everything/, because sad-eyed children and piles of shoes. Got it.

    • Agree: mark green
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  236. getaclue says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Actually they couldn’t surrender– Churchill would have none of it–he wanted the decimation of Germany and he got it. He didn’t want peace and did all he could to make sure it didn’t happen–Hitler had the British at Dunkirk and let them go believing that would lead to peace–bad call on his part…one of many….

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @mark green
  237. @crankypat

    If I recall correctly, Winston Churchill did not mention the Holocaust in his history of World War II.

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
  238. @Diversity Heretic

    According to one of the articles posted on here by Ron Unz: Winston Churchill, Dwight Eisenhower and Charles De Gaulle were all absolutely silent on the matter of the Holocaust in the books they wrote after the war. In something like 6,000 or 7,000 pages (the total of their combined histories and memoirs), the subject just never comes up.
    Curious thing, that.

  239. Anon[172] • Disclaimer says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Source please . It helps.

  240. Anon[172] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wernermagnus

    Jews themselves have admitted this . Louis Farrahakhan is hated for reminding this .

  241. Tusk says:
    @Buck Ransom

    Buck, don’t you know? They used the bodies to power the camps using nefarious nazi technology, perhaps wundertechnologie akin to their wunderwaffe, it is through this German engineering that they were able to use jewish bodies for warmth and use the fuel for other means. As Jankiel Wiernik said:

    “The bodies of women were used for kindling” while Germans “toasted the scene with brandy and with the choicest liqueurs, ate, caroused and had a great time warming themselves by the fire…[At other times] children were snatched from their mothers’ arms and tossed into the flames alive.”

    From: https://archive.is/yEfSB

    I also believe Jankiel’s testimony/book is referenced in the documentary referenced in the above comments twice, 1/3rd of the Holocaust by David Cole, which is a fantastic watch for anyone who hasn’t seen it.

  242. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Buck Ransom

    I dunno, that is a strange question. It does not take much energy to create an oven. Just a lot of air. The bodies fuel themselves. Google it. Why ask all this stuff. It was a gassing and crematorium.The were so overused the ovens broke down and new ones were ordered. Then they just used open pits outside, and the ashes flew away.
    They did not cremate 6 million. Not all Jews were gassed some were shot, others starved in villages.
    The number in Auschwitz was 1 million. There are a lot of resources out there to answer your questions.

  243. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @getaclue

    They could have surrendered before the Russian onslaught. They could have taken what they had and been done with it. But their crimes pissed the world off so much. I think Russia more than Churchill wanted to decimate the German people. Look at the 15 million Russians that died.

    • Replies: @Ilya G Poimandres
  244. @getaclue

    It is true that Germany sought a negotiated settlement to the war as early as 1941. Hitler never sought war with either Great Britain or the US.

    As for ending the war, deputy leader of the Nazi Party, Rudolf Hess, flew into Great Britain in 1941 to try to broker a deal for exactly that. For his efforts, allies kept Hess in solitary confinement for decades thereafter, until his suicide in 1986 at age 93.

    On the other hand, the commies who killed millions in the USSR and elsewhere were never punished for their murderous deeds. They just gradually reformed themselves. No problem.

    Today, countless students study Marx and Trotsky with little mention of the horrors of communism and its political consequences.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
  245. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Wally

    I do not know any witchcraft people, I will take your word for it. However I know a lot of survivors, who had families that they lost. And other people know people who have families that were lost.
    All in the same location. Were you there? I know people who were there who lost their parents and brothers and sisters. They have photos of those people that are gone. They would love to have had those family members with them.
    Were you there? I do not think you were in a camp. So who gives a flying f what you say. Norman Finkelstein’s entire family died in camps. You have to be a very deranged person not to believe the survivors. You loose a parent and are alone in a DP camp, and you think they made that up.
    Human beings are human beings, you loose a parent at 12 you know it. You carry that with you the rest of your life.
    Lol back at you.

  246. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Oh so now you are on to reparations. You forgot all of your denial that I gave answers to. And skipped right to reparations. What about below.

    You speak of witness testimony as truth. There is memory, and it’s failures – I was confident that I at age 8 walked outside my parent’s Moscow flat with my G-ma, only socks on. It is vivid. I remember the rust on the door to tye entry to the block of flats, the snow piles on the side of the road, my socks flailing above the slosh of the pedestrian side walk. My grandma never walked me to school. She worked 24/7 to push her family forward (hence G-ma).

    Individual memory is subjective.

    Documentary evidence is not.

    The latter is what the law prefers to rely on.

    • Replies: @Lazza L
    , @annamaria
  247. I don’t believe in the “H”- It’s a big ramshackle mess.

  248. @exiled off mainstreet

    Arm tattoos with numbers were also used with internal passports in the old Austro-Hungarian Empire. According to a very elderly aunt, my grandfather had one, and you needed the tattoo and the passport to find work.

  249. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I remember being pulled up decades ago by a Jewish barrister, later a Supreme Court judge, when, in a context I completely forget, I mentioned that I had read that the figure of Jews murdered was 4 million. No, 6 million, I was told firmly. I was never interested in pursuing the details. Perhaps it seemed bad manners to follow up the casually imparted information that a young Jewish lawyer friend’s mother had her Auschwicz tattooed number on her arm still or the story that being blue eye’d and blonde she had been able to be sheltered by sympathetic Poles for most of the war.

    In response to the beating up of consciousness of the Holocaust, Shoa and Schindler’s List I settled for the view that it was the greatest crime in history because it was done by the nation of Brahms, Goethe and Beethoven – our own civilised best. Now that UR has caused me to focus on much more of the detail I don’t resile entirely from that but am more inclined to inquire fearfully what can lead to such degradation. After all Hitler’s hatred of Jews and his and Goebbels, and others’, whipping up hatred of Jews is well enough documented to allow one to say that getting rid of Jews (with some ambivalence about the assimilated), at least from German controlled Europe, could be regarded as one of the war aims. (Indeed it is easy to see how Himmler, to objections about misuse of resources, could have answered that, apart from getting needed slave labour from starving Jews, the deportation and death – by whatever means – of non working Jews – was at least fulfilling one of Germany’s war aims to the lasting benefit of Germany).

    I thoroughly recommend the book Ron Unz mentioned in his recent article: “Unfinished War” by Arther Bryant, as a contribution to understanding Germany’s special problems in relationships between native Aryan Germans and Jews.

    FWIW I remain of the view that the deportations of Jews long after the Palestinian, Madagascar and eastern Russian solutions had become impossible, is virtually impossible to explain except as part of a program to substantially eliminate the Jewish populations and expropriate their property (though there all sorts of anomalies to explain like the numbers of Mischlingen in the Wehrmacht and, if true, one third of German real property still, in 1938, being owned by Jews that require one to accept that some Nazis combined pragmatism with fanaticism). There seems to be no basis on which the German deportations of Jews and separation of families can be equated to the rounding up and incarceration of Japanese Americans on the West Coast on partly specious security grounds.

    • Replies: @Saggy
  250. Lazza L says:
    @Kouros

    There’s no business like Shoah business.

  251. @Robert Dolan

    The whites who do survive will do so because they engage in identity politics, albeit they will be compelled, at least for a time, to do so subtly.

    To hell with civic nationalism. Only well-meaning fools still believe in that.

  252. turtle says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Norman Finkelstein’s entire family died in camps.

    Not true, at least if Wikipedia is to be believed:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Finkelstein

    Norman Gary Finkelstein (/ˈfɪŋkəlˌsteɪn/; born December 8, 1953)
    Finkelstein has written of his Jewish parents’ experiences during World War II. His mother, Maryla Husyt, grew up in Warsaw, survived the Warsaw Ghetto, the Majdanek concentration camp, and two slave labor camps. Her first husband died in the war. She considered the day of her liberation the most horrible day of her life, as she realized that she was alone, her parents and siblings gone. Norman’s father, Zacharias Finkelstein, active in Hashomer Hatzair, was a survivor of both the Warsaw Ghetto and the Auschwitz concentration camp.

    Do you have other information?

  253. @mark green

    I first heard about the gas chambers in 1963 or 1964, when I was not yet in 1st grade, from my mother, who was a neurotic woman and often lacked the judgement to decide what was appropriate to tell to young children and what wasn’t.

    She died many years ago, and I am now curious to know where she first read or heard about the gas chambers.

  254. @Art

    Its Anja after she was banned for hurling death threats around, it is the same bad linguistic style.

  255. @Fran Taubman

    Tried to murder them with needles? Why didn’t they think of enlarging them to sword size instead of using a technology that before the war was only used by US executioners, and even then for 1-2 people. It’s a hell of a jump. Even if I smoked an ounce of deathly weed, this idea would still make less sense than walking them down a plank and drowning them all in a big lake or three. Or – since they were trained in, build a ‘railway to nowhere’, take the tracks up to a cliff side and drive the windowless carriages off a cliff. They would never know what hit em. Sure you lose some rolling stock, but it’s still simpler than figuring out how to gas millions of humans in high humidity, cold, swampy territory.

    Your opinion on knowing or finding out about family is faith. The nukes were not the greatest horror of that war. Vitibsk, for example, went from a population of 300,000 to 9. In 4 years. Lot’s of time to exchange twitter handles, and instagram one’s death to acquaintances!

    This however, is not any thing to do with documentary evidence, just hearsay. If 40% of the Jewish population had gone missing, they would have taken less time to update their Almanac. Until 1949 to ‘oh, shit – where’s Jerry and the other lot?!’.

  256. @Fran Taubman

    Why would they keep the 12 year old alive if there was no ‘arbeit mach frei’, but just pure, intentional, killing? Honestly, if they harboured that much hate, they would have killed their kids first. What nice, incomplete, psychos they seemed to have been!

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  257. @Fran Taubman

    Read Bakunin and Russian history. The Germanic tribes, cousins to the Slavs, have been at it trying to Germanize the Slavs for at least millennia. Poland became Catholic, Ukraine is now getting peeled off.

    Slavs have had a negative opinion of the Germans long enough before the war to need an excuse to lose themselves in the horrors of war.

  258. @Fran Taubman

    On Kohlberg scale of moral development, where you are?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Kohlberg%27s_stages_of_moral_development

    Hmmm… I guess near the bottom.

    • LOL: Fran Taubman
  259. @Fran Taubman

    “Since it takes two to four hours at temperatures ranging from 1,400 and 2,100 F, or 760 and 1,150 C, the estimated energy required to cremate one body is roughly equal to the amount of fuel required to drive 4,800 miles, or 7,725 kilometers.”

    Basic top of Google Quora linked answer.. doesn’t seem easy to me. Especially when you are blockaded in by the US and UK navy.

    To use precious resources – again, firstly and primarily human capital, as well as industrial capital, on a bit of old ultraviolent vengeance. This is not a German mind. This is not a Chinese mind. The Jews when they stormed Jerusalem with the Persians in 614AD did however buy the Christian slaves for money, only to slaughter them all. This faith’s ideology has shown such levels of cruel vengeance historically. So it makes anecdotal sense they would believe others would do the same. Sadly for them, and again anecdotally cause we seem to not want to discuss ‘what’, but ‘who’ and ‘why’, the Germans are nothing if not efficient.

    • Replies: @turtle
  260. @Robjil

    Germans should write tons of books & make thousands of movies on their plight.

    • Agree: Zumbuddi
    • Replies: @turtle
  261. teaching non existent history as factual is what made me disbelieve everything I am taught or most things I read. How can I believe anything these days when anything I look deeper into is found to be a fabrication. Instead of the actual victims being helped a few in the minority uses the falsehood to enrich themselves all the while to oppress others and gain an unwarranted leverage against others. This is inequality in the extreme. Punishing the victims and creating new victims all so a few can live a life of luxury and do what they think is their right to be above others.

  262. Parfois1 says:
    @Wally

    On this one I am on your side of the barricade. Why are the Yanks so feeble as to allow the Jews to rub their noses into the dirt so viciously? Educating the kids in schools to feel guilty for something, debatable as it is, that has nothing to do with the US or its history is the ultimate insult to a, supposedly, sovereign country.

    I find it hard to believe that this is all done without any opposition or support for the victims of this evil Jewish inquisition and witch huntings and burnings. Where are the parents of those kids? Shouldn’t they get together in support of the principal, lay siege and boycott the school, burn the books teaching Jewish propaganda, start a rebellion. Do something (apart from bleating)!

    If you don’t know how to make a revolution, or some nuisance, I can help and do my bit by sending a free copy of the “Bolshevik Revolutionary Manual”.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  263. @Bardon Kaldian

    Don’t forget that Stepan Bandera’s two brothers died in Auschwitz too but they were apparently killed by Polish inmates and not gassed. Maybe one day they’ll claim those Jews were also killed by Polish inmates when demanding reparations from Poland. Haven’t you heard that it was communists and other Jews that committed the Holocaust? The few SS guards just stood around all let the inmates run the camps so it’s not their fault. Apparently.

  264. @Rational

    Good luck with getting justice in USA Mr. Rational. The last time justice was served in America is in the Leo Frank case by the lynch mob. And when were the perpetrators of the attack on USS Liberty identified, extradited to US, tried and convicted?

  265. Nonny says:
    @DESERT FOX

    How do you know this is a fact?

  266. Zumbuddi says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Is that you, Fran Taubman?

  267. @Wally

    Here start with this:

    “The Ruins of the Gas Chambers: A Forensic Investigation of Crematoriums at Auschwitz I and Auschwitz-Birkenau” by Daniel Keren, Harry W. Mazal and Jamie McCarthy in Holocaust and Genocide Studies, Oxford University Press, Volume 18, Number 1, Spring 2004, pages 68-103.

    “A Study of the Cyanide Compounds Content In The Walls Of The Gas Chambers in the Former Auschwitz and Birkenau Concentration Camps” by Jan Markiewicz, Wojciech Gubala, Jerzy Labedz, Z Zagadnien Sqdowych z. XXX, 1994, 17-27.

    http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/polish/institute-for-forensic-research/

    “Kalkulierte Morde. Die deutsche Wirtschafts-und Vernichtungspolitik in Weissrussland 1941 bis 1944”, Gerlach, Christian,Hamburger Edition, HIS Verlag, 1998.

    “Besatzungspolitik und Massenmord. Die Einsatzgruppe D in der sudlichen Sowjetunion 1941-1943”. Angrick, Andrej, Zeitschrift fur Geschichtswissenschaft, 2004, Jahr 52 Heft 6, pages 576-577. (Occupation Policy and Mass Murder: Einsatzgruppe D in the Southern Soviet Union 1941-1943. Journal of History, Vol. 52 No. 6.)

    “Völkerverschiebung und der Mord an den europäischen Juden”, Aly, Götz, Fischer Taschenbuch Verlag, Frankfurt am Main, 1998

    “Treblinka: The Operation Reinhard Death Camps”, Arad, Yitzhak, Belzec, Sobibor, Indiana University Press, Bloomington, 1999

    “AUSCHWITZ: Technique and operation of the gas chambers”, Jean-Claude Pressac, The Beate Klarsfeld Foundation, 1989

    “The Struthof-Natzweiler Camp” by Miloslav Bilik
    https://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/struthof/strut2e.shtml

    “The Dachau Gas Chambers” by Harry W. Mazal OBE
    https://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/index.html

    My Response to Carlo Mattogno, By John C. Zimmerman
    https://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/response-to-mattogno/

    Photographs Documenting the Holocaust in Hungary by László Karsai Ph.D https://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/hungarian-photos/index.html

  268. Robjil says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Top Jewish Zionist Advisors instigated WWI, WWII and now the Seven Nations to Destroy. We need a “Never Again Listen to Jewish Zionist Advisors Act” to end world wars.

    Here are quotes about the Top Jewish Zionist Advisors who instigated WWI and WWII from Benjamin H. Freedman’s 1961 speech. He was a Jewish American.

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread76025/pg1

    Germany and the Jews
    The Role of the Jews in WWI and WWII
    A Speech by Jewish Defector:
    Benjamin H. Freedman
    1961

    WWI and Jewish Zionist Advisors
    They wanted the Balfour Declaration. The Ottomans had to be knocked out to get Palestine.

    The Zionists in London had sent cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis, saying “Go to work on President Wilson. We’re getting from England what we want. Now you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war.” That’s how the United States got into the war. We had no more interest in it; we had no more right to be in it than we have to be on the moon tonight instead of in this room. There was absolutely no reason for World War I to be our war. We were railroaded into — if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into — that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. That is something that the people of the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War I.

    Jewish Zionist Advisors declared war on Germany in 1933, six years before the physical war started on Sept. 1 1939.

    In 1933, when Germany refused to surrender to the world conference of Jews in Amsterdam, the conference broke up, and Mr. Samuel Untermyer, who was the head of the American delegation and the president of the whole conference, came to the United States and went from the steamer to the studios of the Columbia Broadcasting System and made a radio broadcast throughout the United States in which he in effect said, “The Jews of the world now declare a Holy War against Germany. We are now engaged in a sacred conflict against the Germans. And we are going to starve them into surrender. We are going to use a world-wide boycott against them. That will destroy them because they are dependent upon their export business.” And it is a fact that two thirds of Germany’s food supply had to be imported, and it could only be imported with the proceeds of what they exported. So if Germany could not export, two thirds of Germany’s population would have to starve. There was just not enough food for more than one third of the population. Now in this declaration, which I have here, and which was printed in the New York Times on August 7, 1933, Mr. Samuel Untermyer boldly stated that “this economic boycott is our means of self-defense. President Roosevelt has advocated its use in the National Recovery Administration,” which some of you may remember, where everybody was to be boycotted unless he followed the rules laid down by the New Deal, and which was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of that time.

    Here we go again in our time. Jewish Zionist Advisors love pushing for war and destruction on this beautiful planet earth.

    https://newobserveronline.com/isis-inevitable-consequence-of-the-jewish-lobbys-middle-east-warmongering/

    Jewish Neocons in the Bush Administration
    The IASPS conference study group leader was a Jewish neocon named Richard Perle, who attended as a delegate from the American Enterprise Institute; while another Jewish neocon named Douglas Feith attended as a representative of Feith and Zell Associates.
    Both these individuals then emerged as key players in the Bush administration: Perle was Chairman of George Bush’s Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee, and Feith became Under Secretary of Defense and the Pentagon’s Policy Advisor.
    They were joined by a long list of similarly Israel-first Jewish neocons in the Bush administration:
    * Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Defense Secretary and campaign advisor;
    * Robert Satloff, US National Security Council Advisor;
    * Rabbi Dov Zekheim, Under Secretary of Defense and Comptroller;
    * Elliott Abrams, National Security Council Advisor;
    * Marc Grossman, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs;
    * Richard Haass, Director of Policy Planning at the State Department and Director of National Security Programs;
    * Henry Kissinger, former Secretary of State, a Pentagon advisor who sat on the Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board;
    * James Schlesinger, another Pentagon advisor who also sat on the Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board;
    * Robert Zoellick, the US’s Trade Representative;
    * Mel Sembler, President of the Export-Import Bank of the United States;
    * Israeli citizen Ari Fleischer, official White House spokesman;
    * Joshua Bolten, Bush’s Chief Policy Director;
    * Steve Goldsmith, Senior Advisor to the President and domestic policy advisor;
    * Mark Weinberger, the Assistant Secretary of the Treasury;
    * Samuel Bodman, Deputy Secretary of Commerce;
    * Bonnie Cohen, Under Secretary of State for Management;
    * Ruth Davis, the Director of the Foreign Service Institute;
    * Lincoln Bloomfield, Assistant Secretary of State for Political Military Affairs;
    * Jay Lefkowitz, General Counsel of the Office of Budget and Management;
    * David Frum, Bush’s official White House speechwriter;
    * Ken Melman, White House Political Director; and
    * Brad Blakeman, White House Director of Scheduling.
    The scene was now set: all they needed was an excuse to maneuver America into destroying Iraq for the benefit of Israel, according to the plan which Perle and Feith had already helped to map out.

    Linda, I think the world needs to pass the “Never Again Listen to Jewish Zionist Advisors Act”. Climate Change, Immigration Games, and SJW games are nothing compared to the warmongering and world wide destruction pandering that the Jewish Zionist Advisors have done to our beautiful planet in the last hundred years.

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @Truth3
  269. Parfois1 says:
    @Cowboy

    Stalin and Lenin enforced the death penalty for antisemitism in the USSR as well.

    I am not an expert on Soviet law and jurisprudence but I have read here many times unambiguous statements, as the one quoted above, intuitively knowing that they are pure slanderous anti-Soviet propaganda. Any person with basic understanding of legal principles and systems would detect that the Soviet Criminal Code (or any code) would not and could not single out someone or group out of the general population for particular protection.

    My intuition did not deceive me. Here is the wording of Art. 59.7 (1927) under the heading of :
    State Crimes – 2. Crimes against the order of government, especially dangerous for the Union of SSR.

    Article 59-7. (1927) Propaganda or agitation, directed toward arousing national or religious enmity or discord, or likewise the dissemination or preparation and storage of literature of the same character, shall be punishable by–deprivation of freedom for a term up to two years.
    The same activity in time of war, or during mass disorders shall be punishable by —
    deprivation of freedom for a term not less than two years, with confiscation of all or part of property, with increase, under especially aggravated circumstances, up to the supreme measure of social defence — shooting, with confiscation of property. [6 June 1927 (SU No 49, art. 330)].

    A legally trained person would notice immediately that such crimes are subsumed to be crimes against the State with the intent to cause national or religious enmity. That is a very hard hurdle for the prosecution to overcome in any situation let alone the special aggravating circumstances.

    I rest my case. I can state categorically that there were no anti-semitism laws in the Soviet Union and I will eat my hat publicly if anyone proves me wrong.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
    , @Parfois1
  270. anarchyst says:
    @Truth3

    At the end of WW2, it was noted that the “displaced persons” (jews) had horrific hygiene practices and refused to use toilets and sinks for basic hygiene, instead defecating in the corners of rooms instead of using toilets. The memoirs of George Patton have said as much. The “occupants” had to be threatened with violence in order to get them to use the sanitary facilities.
    Jews who were “liberated” had to be forced to use toilets. The soldiers running these facilities commented on the disgusting habits of the jews. It’s all documented. It is fact that their hygiene habits were nonexistent.
    Just recently a jew couple was kicked off a airline flight originating in Detroit because they smelled so bad (stunk). They made the news, as they claimed that they were being discriminated against (rightly so). Near the end of the news, it was mentioned that the airline provided them with a (free) hotel room overnight (where they could clean up their acts). The jews resumed their trip the next day without incident.
    Even today, there are jews who refuse to conform to normal hygiene habits. I’ve encountered many of them…

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @anon
  271. Robjil says:
    @Robjil

    Here are some more info about how the Jewish Zionist Advisors are pushing for wars for Israel in our time.

    Israel admits it to be so.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/2125#.U5pJWflkTTo

    1991 war on Iraq war ended on Purim. 2003 war on Iraq started on Purim. Who was advising our war machine about these dates?

    Stop and think for a moment: the last Gulf War in 1991 ended erev – just before – Purim. This Gulf War began motzei – just after – Shushan Purim. Get the picture? In between, “The Jews had light, and gladness, and joy, and honor.” (Book of Esther 8:16)

    Talk about Adar, Purim month, as a time for increasing joy.

    Great things are yet to come. The Hebrew month of Adar is a time for ‘increasing joy’. Purim is a time for celebrating our salvation from enemies who plot our destruction. Adar falls at the end of the calendar for months and the end of the winter. And after Adar comes Nisan – or Aviv, meaning springtime. Springtime is a time of rebirth and regeneration after a long dark winter. Pesach – Passover – Z’man Cherutainu – the time of our freedom – falls in Nisan. In Nisan, we were redeemed from slavery in Egypt, and the future redemption will be in Nisan.

    What dates was Dresden firebombed?

    Feb. 13 and Feb. 14, 1945. This was the first and second days of Adar.

    The Nuremberg Trials was a Jewish Zionist Passion Play.

    On October 16, 1946, as foreshadowed in the names of Haman’s ten sons, ten Nazi leaders were hanged as war criminals. And if that doesn’t impress you, out of nowhere, with the rope around his neck, Julius Schtreicher – editor of Der Sturmer, the Nazi propaganda newspaper – shouted out with flaming hatred in his eyes, just as the trap door opened, “Purimfest 1946!” It was reported in the international press of the day.

  272. Parfois1 says:
    @JohnnyD

    He’s point is: you are thick.

  273. @Parfois1

    If you don’t know how to make a revolution, or some nuisance, I can help and do my bit by sending a free copy of the “Bolshevik Revolutionary Manual”.

    I can help even more.

    Step 1.: Get tons of money from Wall Street’s and London’s international banking mafiosi.

    Do that, and the world is your oyster. Slave too.

  274. TBC
    Nobody did mention tuberculosis so I have to do it.
    Grim reaper actually during and after war was working mostly with tuberculosis.
    There were no X-ray machines in concentration camps, and cibazol did not cure the tuberculosis.
    Kafka himself did die of tuberculosis so most probably his two sisters died of it also,
    Strangely enough females died of tuberculosis far quicker than males, and also were more susceptible to catch it.

  275. Moi says:
    @Anthony Aaron

    True, but PG is wasting his time because the fact is America loves being Jews’ bitch.

  276. @Fran Taubman

    Shit also happens when you decide you don’t want to be subject to International Communism and when your enemies are the largest empires the world had ever seen.

    Also, have a look at Robjil’s comment #274.:

    In 1933, when Germany refused to surrender to the world conference of Jews in Amsterdam

    Stuff also happens when you attempt to control the world too. (That’s a hint.) Now, go read the Protocols.

  277. Richard B says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    A long-winded, boring and pretentious answer that only goes to further prove my point.

    • Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  278. @Skeptikal

    The genocide of Jews did occur.

    Absolute bullshit. Self-serving bullshit in most cases as well. You ought to consider being a little more skeptical.

  279. Truth3 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Don’t these stinking shit Jooz get nasty when they are ‘found out’.

  280. Truth3 says:
    @Robjil

    Disgusting that there are so few American Citizens aware of the Jews’ malicious nature and overwhelming control of our Country.

  281. @renfro

    In the mid-time in the northen “israeli” city of Afula parks signs have a clear message:

    “DOGS AND NON- ISRAELIS KEEP OUT”
    https://www.rt.com/news/464148-israel-lifts-park-ban-arabs/

  282. @Ilya G Poimandres

    Why, why, why? Why did the Russians allow any Germans to live after what they had done to them? Why do Americans send drones to kill terrorists in Yemen who may or may not have killed US citizens but have not bothered to bring to justice those who attacked USS Liberty? Why didn’t the West back the Soviets against Muslims in Afghanistan when now they have to fight those same Muslims there? That kind of reasoning gets you nowhere.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Ilya G Poimandres
  283. Truth3 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    From a Professional …

    “… one cremation at a time in each retort — that’s what the cremation machine is called, a retort — from start to finish, it’s about three hours. The body is placed into the retort, which is 1600 degrees at three hours. After the three hours is up, the cremated remains are actually too hot to handle. There’s actually a cooling period before they can be handled and processed into a fine consistency before they’re returned back to the family. The process is quite complex and takes a little bit of time.”

    That’s with today’s superior technology. Which didn’t exist in WW2.

    Three hours. One body. Then, cooling off, and grinding the remains. Bones. Then, disposal.

    Thirty bodies a day? Lot of work. Sixty a day? Ninety a day?

    12 Ovens nonstop with no maintenance? Maybe Ninety a Day. Maybe. More like a few dozen or so in actuality, the normal daily death rate of 80,000 people incarcerated in wartime conditions, with the inmates known to have bad hygiene.

    So supposedly 2,000 a day are being processed? 20:1 ratio of overcapacity accomplished?

    I can hear the specious arguments now…

    “Jew bodies had a lot of fat, so they burned faster!”

    “The Jew bodies were emaciated from the ghetto life, so they burned faster!”

    “They crammed 4 bodies into each retort, so they burned faster!”

    “The sonderkommandos washed the bodies with loving care, so they burned faster!”

    “They didn’t let the remains cool… so they did it faster!”

    “The entire bodies went to Yahweh as smoke, no remains needed, so it was faster!”

    Physics. Deal with it.

    • Replies: @turtle
    , @Genrick Yagoda
  284. @anarchyst

    So they are dirty bastards. But why? Is there something in their religion or culture that stops them from washing?

    Anyway, whites and some others are considered dirty by standards of people in Southeast Asia who shower themselves several times a day. And do you know how many times Muslims wash their face, hands, and feet each day? Is the average white cleaner?

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  285. @SolontoCroesus

    The soap fable was merely a retread of WWI British Intelligence atrocity propaganda, disseminated through the Daily Mail, The Times and the like. Beat you to it!

    “The story described how corpses arrived by rail at the factory, which was placed “deep in forest country” and surrounded by an electrified fence, and how they were rendered for their fats which were then further processed into stearin (a form of tallow). It went on to claim that this was then used to make soap, or refined into an oil “of yellowish brown colour”. – 17 April 1917″

    Although this was purportedly the beastly Hun rendering his own deceased kameraden into materiel
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Corpse_Factory

    Anytime a tale like this is put about, guaranteed it’s fake and gay.
    If desperate, you can make soap out of a number of native European wild plants and shrubs right out of the box, for instance the .. Soapwort. Or even bracken roots, which aren’t exactly in short supply. They could have farmed the stuff if they felt like it. Kelp is another, less effective bodywash source.

  286. @Bardon Kaldian

    Holocaust deniers on UR are the funniest people ever. They spend half their time trying to prove that the Jews deserved to be holocausted and the other half denying that Hitler and his Nazis tried to holocaust them. They have no balls to say they deserved it and they got it. So what good was their idol Hitler they praise to high heaven if he couldn’t do the main job he claimed he would do? They want a second coming of Hitler to rid us of the Jews when even the first one couldn’t do it. How can anyone take them seriously? Good for a laugh and that’s about it.

  287. Saggy says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz

    There seems to be no basis on which the German deportations of Jews and separation of families can be equated to the rounding up and incarceration of Japanese Americans on the West Coast on partly specious security grounds.

    ??? See rabbi Yosef ben Porat explain ‘Why Did Hitler Hate the Jews’….. this is why Hitler wanted to expel the Jews …



    Plus international Jewry declared economic war on Germany in 1933 …
    The Jews were far from being model citizens.

  288. anarchyst says:
    @Commentator Mike

    The average white doesn’t “stink” or try to justify his “stink” to others.

  289. anarchyst says:

    One would think that jews would be happy that “6 million” were not gassed or otherwise “dispatched”, but such a revelation would destroy their “cash cow”–“holocaustianity”. Even now, they are trying to keep their fable alive for future generations by insisting that children, grandchildren, and other jews are affected by “holocaust transference syndrome” and are worthy of “holocaust reparations”. If they have their way, reparations for “holocaustianity” will never end.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  290. Sparkon says:
    @Parfois1

    Start chewing.

    Reply to an Inquiry of the Jewish News Agency in the United States

    In answer to your inquiry :

    National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism.

    Anti-semitism is of advantage to the exploiters as a lightning conductor that deflects the blows aimed by the working people at capitalism. Anti-semitism is dangerous for the working people as being a false path that leads them off the right road and lands them in the jungle. Hence Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but be irreconcilable, sworn enemies of anti-semitism.

    In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.

    J. Stalin
    January 12, 1931

    https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/01/12.htm

    (My bold)

    • Agree: Cowboy
    • Replies: @Parfois1
  291. @mark green

    the commies who killed millions in the USSR and elsewhere were never punished for their murderous deeds

    Nazis did a little punishing of commies, or so I hear.

    • Replies: @mark green
  292. @Jake

    Amazing how the truth always fits together: it’s all about the relentless attacks by the devil’s children (John 8:44) against The Divine Son of God.

    Modern China is defined by revolution – whether by monarchists or old fashioned warlords or Marxists – that had one main focus: to exterminate, for all practical purposes, from China all trace of historic Christianity.

    Your insight is inspired, Jake. God bless you in the name of Jesus.

  293. turtle says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    Exactly.
    The laws of thermodynamics are immutable.
    First Law of Thermodynamics: Energy is conserved.
    “Self fueling crematory?” ([ignorant] poster to whom you correctly responded)
    Ridiculous. That would constitute a “perpetual motion machine of the first kind,” one which violates the First Law of Thermodynamics. not even those clever fellows at I.G. Farben could do that.

    Speaking of which…
    ah, never mind.

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
  294. turtle says:
    @Truth3

    Physics. Deal with it.

    Amen.

  295. Wally says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    Then please give us the names of just three of your “survivors”.
    Tell us in their own words what they claim, including where they were & when.

    – Indeed, the same locations as claimed by the your beloved Jews, not me.
    ex: It is Jews that say that 34,000 Jews were shot at Babi Yar. Excavations have not found any of the claimed human remains. See more below.
    I have pictures of my deceased relatives, so what? May be I should just make up claims that they were murdered by Jews.
    And yes people died of disease in WWII, greatly exacerbated by Allied illegal attacks on civilian supply transports into the sites.
    – Why do you reject witchcraft “survivors”? Were you there? You have to be insane to reject these good people.
    – Why have you dodged telling us how the laughable ‘gas chambers’ supposedly worked?

    Sobibor ‘monument’ supposedly over the remains of 250,000 Jew, actual remains of the alleged 250,000 cannot be shown.
    Alleged “ash pond” for an alleged 1.1M Jew remains at Auschwitz, however these alleged remains cannot be shown to exist.
    Alleged location of Treblinka mass graves / remains of 900,000 Jews according to Treblinka officials, no alleged remains exist.
    photo from ‘Surviving Treblinka’, by Samuel Willenberg.It is captioned: “crane lifting corpses destined for cremation”.
    Does anyone see any “corpses”?

  296. Bookish1 says:

    So the debate goes on about the holocaust as a yes or no. But the Jews did some things that pissed the germans off. Most of us know that. So whatever the Jews suffered the question is how much of that suffering did they deserve.

  297. Wally says:
    @Commentator Mike

    You really mean the Germans who attacked the USSR in in order to stop a planned Soviet attack.
    Why should the Germans have allowed any Soviet POWs to survive after what the Soviets had planned?

    Roosevelt Conspired to Start World War II in Europe
    http://www.unz.com/article/roosevelt-conspired-to-start-world-war-ii-in-europe/
    Why Germany Attacked the Soviet Union, Hitler’s Declaration of War Against the USSR – Two Historic Documents: http://www.unz.com/article/why-germany-attacked-the-soviet-union/
    http://www.codoh.com
    Why Germany Invaded Poland, by John Wear: http://inconvenienthistory.com/11/1/6391
    Operation Barbarossa Was A Preventive Attack: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7999

  298. @Fran Taubman

    “Then they just used open pits outside, and the ashes flew away.”

    I thought I viewed a lot of funny posts before on the ‘net, but this one is a gut buster.

    If there was one single body the mean wicked Nazi’s wanted to burn and have the ashes fly away, it was that of Joseph Goebbels. However, since bodies Do NOT burn by their own “fuel”, Colonel Klink and Sgt Schultz wound up with this:

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  299. @turtle

    Many people do not know that at the Irving V Lipstadt trial David Irving produced the records of the Degesh Corporation regarding shipments of Zyklon B. The amount of Zyklon B shipped to Bullschwitz was exactly the same as the non “death camp” of Oranienburg.

    In other words, exactly as much as was required for routine fumigation. No where near enough to snuff 4 garillion Jews with bug spray.

  300. Rurik says:
    @Truth3

    Shocking that nobody… and I mean nobody… challenges the falsehoods and propaganda that riddle that article.

    Mr. Unz, look what they have done to your magazine.

    Where on the Internet will we be able to speak freely about these issues if/when Mr. Unz invaluable site when Ron retires, or the Unz Review is otherwise terminated?

    I don’t think it’s possible for a site like this to be perpetual, and what I wonder is if there’s anything quite like it out there. (Years ago there was an excellent site called The Liberty Forum, but it was shut down by the usual suspects).

    It seems like they’re shutting down every Internet outlet for honest debate if it crosses the agenda of Google/Apple/Facebook/Pelosi/AOC/BLM/La Raza/The View/Schumer/Bibi, et al.

    And increasingly there’s a pall over all free-wheeling Internet conversations.

    I don’t know of any major sites out there where informed and intelligent voices are given free rein.

    • Replies: @Wally
  301. @Truth3

    Ivan Legace testified at the Zundel Trial. Legace operated North America’s largest crematorium, and this crematorium was almost identical to the largest one at Auschwitz. You can read his testimony about the preposterous cremation claims here.

    http://www.ihr.org/books/kulaszka/26lagace.html

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  302. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:

    The principal issue that deniers have disputed is the reason the Bauleitung began to build so many new ovens. Historians have long recognized that the extensive building campaign was because the authorities were committing mass murder and wanted an efficient means of disposing of the bodies as well as structures which could be used to gas prisoners. At the time the building began there were two structures in Birkenau which were used for gassing. They were located in the wooded area behind the camp. There was also a gas chamber in the crematorium located in the main camp which housed the six ovens. [15] Forensic tests done by the Institute For Forensic Research in Cracow, Poland in 1994 found traces of the poisonous hydrocyanic acid in all five crematoria, [16] consistent with a great deal of eyewitness testimony and other documents from Auschwitz which show that these structures were used as gas chambers. [17] The two structures in the wooded area were completely destroyed by the Germans and no trace remains. However, as will be seen later on, there is photographic evidence of one of these structures.

    Deniers claim that there were no gassings at Auschwitz. They attribute the principal reason for building so many ovens to other factors. In 1977 Arthur Butz, the best known of American deniers, hinted that typhus was a principal reason for building so many new ovens. However, this hint became explicit, and by 1992 he was attributing the typhus epidemic which swept the camp in the summer of 1942 as the reason for the building campaign. [18] Carlo Mattogno attributes the building campaign to the typhus epidemic and a decision by the camp authorities to greatly expand the population of the camp. [19]

    One of the reasons deniers need to make this argument is that they must find a justification for building so many ovens. This argument also involves the amount of bodies these new ovens could dispose of in a 24 hour period. A report from the Bauleitung in June 1943, after all of the new ovens became operational for at least some period, placed the cremation capacity of all 52 ovens at 4756 per day. [20] Deniers have not totally agreed among themselves on this issue, but Butz and Mattogno place the cremation capacity at about 1000 per day, or 30,000 per month. [21] Mattogno claimed the maximum cremation capacity of the six original ovens was 120 per day, [22] even though he was familiar with evidence from another concentration camp that showed a Topf double muffle oven could burn 52 per day or 26 per muffle. [23]

    • Replies: @Rurik
  303. anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    “There is more actual documentation and proof of the Armenian Genocide, for example, as a deliberate race/religion-focused act than there is for the Holocaust. ”

    Philip Jenkins, in his book “The Lost History of Christianity: The Thousand-Year Golden Age of the Church in the Middle East, Africa, and Asia–and How It Died,” says:

    Some months afterward, Polish Jewish lawyer Raphael Lemkin used the cases of the Assyrians, and the Christian Armenians before them, to argue for a new legal category to be called crimes of barbarity, primarily “acts of extermination directed against the ethnic, religious or social collectivities whatever the motive (political, religious, etc.).” Lemkin developed this theme over the following years, and in 1943 he coined a new word for this atrocious behavior – namely, genocide. The modern concept of genocide as a uniquely horrible act demanding international sanctions has its roots in the thoroughly successful movements to eradicate Middle Eastern Christians. Lemkin recognized acutely that such acts might provide an awful precedent for later regimes: as Hitler asked in 1939, “Who, after all, speaks to-day of the annihilation of the Armenians?”

  304. @Wally

    Well yes, if that’s what they thought. And why didn’t the Russians obey Ilya Ehrenburg’s command when he told them to kill, kill, kill the Germans? Of course they did, but up to a point only. This kind of discourse proves nothing.

    I hope you’re writing to that school and all the authorities in Florida to reinstate that teacher and stop persecuting those who question the Holocaust.

  305. @Wally

    Why should the Germans have allowed any Soviet POWs to survive after what the Soviets had planned?

    I think this premise is wrong.
    In the initial phase of Barbarossa, German forces made 3 million Soviet POW due to the Soviet offensive troop concentrations. This was a logistic nightmare to supply these POW with food, German forces had not been prepared to take so many POW.
    Many begged not to be send back to Stalin, who considered returned Soviet POW enemy collaborators. He had many returned killed or sent to the Gulag.
    I also don’t see, why Germans would deliberately kill Russians, who were not the enemy, the Soviet and Jewish commissars were.
    Germany obeyed the Geneva convention, the Soviets did not, they were not even a signatory.

    I mean, if Germans would start to fight US ongoing occupation, the enemy would not be the US soldier, but his demonic masters he serves. The US soldier is just the useful idiot, cannonfodder, just as these Russians were serving the Soviet Jews.

    Anyway, what actually happened when German forces pushed back the Soviets in the Baltic or Ukraine for example, the locals went on to take bitter revenge on the remaining Soviet pockets and lynched them for the savagery they did. The locals actually supplied German forces with food, shelter and logistics, they regarded the Wehrmacht liberators from jewish Soviet terror.

    The eastern front was really messy and brutal.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  306. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Genrick Yagoda

    I think you will find petrol will work just fine, and then body fat takes over.
    Testimony about the cremation of Hungarian Jews in open-air burning pits (late 1944):

    [MORE]

    Between May 1944 and November 1944 more than 400,000 Jews from Hungary were sent to Auschwitz-Birkenau, where about 90 percent of them were murdered almost immediately in the gas chambers. Even one of the two cottages, which had been previously used as a gas chambers, was re-opened to handle the massive overflow.

    Filip Müller was put to work in a Sonderkommando, assigned to dig burning pits behind Crema/Gas Chamber 5 and in the woods by the cottages. The burning pits were 40 to 50 meters long, about 8 meters wide and 2 meters deep [131 to 164 feet long, about 26 feet wide and 6.5 feet deep]. Eventually they dug a total of nine large burning pits “making it possible to burn an almost unlimited number of bodies.”[2]

    Dr. Charles Sigismund Bendel was a Jewish physician who was sent to Auschwitz-Birkenau where he was assigned to the crematoria Sonderkommando. At the Bergen-Belsen trial in 1945, Bendel confirmed how quickly and efficiently these open-air burning pits worked. For instance, he recollected how a transport of Jews from Lodz, Poland had been murdered and burned in such way: “I came at seven o’clock in the morning with the others and saw white smoke still rising from trenches, which indicated that a whole transport had been liquidated or finished off during the night . . . behind the crematorium they dug three large trenches 12 metres long and 6 metres [39 feet by 20 feet] wide. After a bit it was found that the results achieved even in these three big trenches were not quick enough, so in the middle of these big trenches they built two canals through which the human fat or grease should seep so that work could be continued in a quicker way. The capacity of these trenches was almost fantastic. Crematorium No. 4 was able to burn 1,000 people during the day, but this system of trenches was able to deal with the same number in one hour.”[3]

    There are, in fact, very rare images of these open-air burning pits by a member of the Sonderkommando. Taken clandestinely at Crema/Gas Chamber 5, these pictures show the women being forced to undress before they enter the gas chambers and the men of the Sonderkommando dragging bodies to the open-air burning pits.[4]

  307. anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    The Orthodox are noticeably offensive, based on my subway encounters. I think there is something in the Talmud about deodorants. The heavy black clothing doesn’t help (and is more proof that that have nothing to do with the Middle East: compare the noble and practical robes of the Arab).

  308. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    It is the time to expose the real holocaust committed by the zionist mass murderers and stop brainwashing of American and western children by holohoax in schools.

    Expose the holohoax all over the world.

    Seven-year-old Palestinian Child Killed by Israeli Settler in Hit-and-Run

    https://imemc.org/article/seven-year-old-palestinian-child-killed-by-israeli-settler-in-hit-and-run/

    [A Palestinian child who was riding his bicycle near his village in the southern part of the West Bank was hit by an unknown Israeli settler and killed on Monday.
    Tariq Zebania, 7 years old, was from Tarqumia, west of Hebron, and was riding his bicycle by the settlement road near his town. He was struck by a car driven by an Israeli settler who headed into the ‘Adhoura’ settlement after hitting the boy.]

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  309. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Genrick Yagoda

    But the well-constructed crematoria fell far behind at a number of camps, and especially at Auschwitz in 1944. In August the total cremation reached a peak one day of 24,000, but still a bottleneck occurred. Camp authorities needed an economic and fast method of corpse disposal, so they again dug six huge pits beside Crematorium Five and reopened old pits in the wood.

    Thus, late in 1944, pit burning became the chief method of corpse disposal. The pits had indentations at one end from which human fat drained off. To keep the pits burning, the stokers poured oil, alcohol, and large quantities of boiling human fat over the bodies.

    Why don’t you deniers try to find the missing 5 million Jews? Instead of worrying about the amount of bodies burned. That is pretty much of a done deal.
    http://www.auschwitz.dk/Docs/new_page_11.htm
    Philip Muller was a Sonderkommando, it was his job to burn the bodies.
    LOL right back attacha dick brain.

  310. Rurik says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Were Germans ever resident in concentration / work camps?

    Yes, of course, but they, (unlike the commies and enemies of Germany) deserved to suffer and die.

    Because they were Germans, and therefor evil and guilty.

    Just like all Palestinians and unapologetic white Gentiles. Terrorists and ‘white supremacists’ who must be marginalized and demonized and replaced with all due haste.

    What’s sort of disappointing is that these ((people)) are so predictable. Always full of hatred and genocidal angst. Always full of duplicitous hubris and doltish megalomania.

    Nothing new under the sun.

  311. @anonymous

    Why do you people call everything “holocaust” these days? Its an inflationary use, like competing with the Jews to outdo them.
    What the Jews do to the Palestinians is wrong, disgusting and repulsive, but it is not “holocaust”, which means “burnt offerings”. The Jews commit yet another Genocide in Palestine.
    All the civilians firebombed in German and Japanese cities were the only and true victims of a Holocaust. You could extend this to Korean and Vietnamese cities the US ruthlessly firebombed and destroyed as well, perhaps Iraqi Falujah and a few other US acts of terrorism. The USAF and RAF are terrorist units, and the IDF.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  312. Zumbuddi says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Your diatribe is a hash of pre- and post-war propaganda with a (very) few verifiable facts salted in.

    Honorable Mention for the Rush Limbaugh prize but unless you take delight in watching the next generation lead USA off a cliff, your statement should NOT be taught to US schoolchildren.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  313. Rurik says:
    @Fran Taubman

    One of the reasons deniers need to make this argument is that they must find a justification for building so many ovens.

    we all know the justification!

    why beat this dead horse?

    It was for the soap!

    look at how hygienic these Nazis were.

    They were obsessed with using the best soap their diabolical cleverness could come up with, and we all know Jewish fat makes the best soap. So there’s really little point to belaboring the necessity of ovens, when those ovens were being used to produce the lard, required for the Nazi soap.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
    , @Jester
  314. @Fran Taubman

    Hilarious. Linda actually believes Jews are inflammable!

    If your nutty claims were true, every single Jewish funeral home in the world would be plastered with signs reading:

    WARNING! DEAD JEW!
    NO SMOKING WITHIN 50 FEET!

    Once again, read the trial testimony of someone who actually operates a crematorium exactly like the ones at Bullschwitz. And lay off the nutty fables from “survivors”. Fairy Tales don’t count.

    http://www.ihr.org/books/kulaszka/26lagace.html

  315. @Commentator Mike

    It does if you posit an absolutist murdering nation. Because there will be dissonance if that nation provides birthing wards, entertainment, fuel for travel, and 1500 calories per day to those they seek to murder.

    Look, I have Aspergers – meaning I am not a psychopath only because I have personal distress. I have enough cognitive empathy to understand how I would be without that aspect of empathetic concern. Were I to imagine myself without it, and considering I had my pray in my hands, locked, loaded – I would not spend a bullet to kill them. I might eat their liver – but that is calories for the war effort.

    I would do one step beyond what Eisenhower did with German POWs, put them in a field and let them cannibalise themselves.. ‘there can only be one’, and watch the ‘fun’.

    Fuel? Gas? Coke? German labour? When in a space of total war?!

    No, if you accept the Germans thought of the Jews etc as vermin (and Hitler clearly stated that vermin=Slavs in Mein Kampf), and they had control of their nation (as dictatorships do?), then, make the troops use knives.

    Hitler was not complacent, otherwise he would not have tried to keep the UK and US out of the war. He was right – they entered, Germany lost. No naval embargo would have been a different equation.

    A nation at war does not intentionally sacrifice its resources, including and especially humans.

    Yes, I agree – let’s discuss ‘what’ and not ‘whom’ or ‘why’ first..

  316. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @Germanicus

    The burning of Jews, everyone knows, is totally fabricated. The zionists committed many genocide but don’t take any responsibility. The genocide in Persia during WWI, in China, in the central Asia, during opium war, headed by a zionist jew, David Sassoon, and crimes against humanity in WWI to topple Ottoman Sultan, Abdulhamid, who refused to sell Palestine to the Jewish mafia for money.

    Since the zionists have turned ‘holocaust’ into a weapon against the world population, thus other people use this word to have the zionists’ attention AS WELL, since they are highly ‘sensitive’ about and protective of this word.

    Otherwise, I agree with your view.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  317. @Zumbuddi

    “…your statement should NOT be taught to US schoolchildren.”

    True, but it is at the government-run schools standards (i.e. no depth, breadth or scope).

  318. @Rurik

    Lol! Is that Brando?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  319. @Commentator Mike

    Holocaust deniers on UR are the funniest people ever

    .

    I think you meant Holohoaxers. Anyway,

    [Holocaust deniers on UR] spend half their time trying to prove that the Jews deserved to be holocausted … They have no balls to say they deserved it and they got it.

    Huh?

  320. Rurik says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    Yep

    Once a Nazi, always a Nazi

    (I heard he spent millions of dollars tracking down cases of that soap, and he refuses to use any other brand)

    ‘the horror, the horror’

    Indeed Marlon. Indeed!

    • Replies: @Wally
  321. homahr says:
    @Truth3

    It probably wouldn’t make too much of a difference but Unz commentators should inundate that blog post with constant comments. Just make those pathetic mods at amconmag do some more work.

  322. @Saggy

    ??? See rabbi Yosef ben Porat explain ‘Why Did Hitler Hate the Jews’….. this is why Hitler wanted to expel the Jews …

    The video was well worth the precious 8 minutes I spent watching. Many thanks.

  323. @Jacques Sheete

    Long ago at this article-thread, & regarding how US public school teachers are advised to teach students about 9/11, Jacques Sheete asked me: “What did the article conclude, CO?”

    Apologize for late response, but in summary, public school teachers can teach about 9/11 at their discretion.*

    Nonetheless, linked below & fyr, is a video displaying how a Middleboro School taught students about 9/11 history. Thanks & my respect, JS.

    Selah, regarding the non-tenured’s teaching of Holocaust & 9//11 history in the ZUS, “discretion is the better part of valor.”

  324. @Digital Samizdat

    “Holocaust” is derived from the Greek word meaning an offering that is entirely consumed by fire. It entered the English language in the 1582 Douay Bible, the first English translation of the New Testament by and for Roman Catholics. The scholars who worked on this groundbreaking work were noted for transliterating into English terms found in the original Latin and Greek texts. Other words first used in our language in this Bible include gratis, victim, and, ironically, that most Protestant of words, evangelize.

  325. @Fran Taubman

    Problem here is that the camp was built on landfill over a swamp. Deep pits would quickly fill with groundwater. Also the trees that were cut down to provide the fuel in the story were not seasoned as firewood must be in order to be combustible. In a modern crematorium twenty gallons of fuel are needed to reduce a human body, which is 90% water, to ash. The idea of producing the same result with human body fat is beyond absurd. The Sonderkommado narrative is that they dragged the corpses along one by one with metal utensils shaped like canes, instead of placing them on a wheeled device of some sort to reduce the enormous task of moving so much weight day after day after day. One also wonders how a dozen single crematoria were built instead of one large blast furnace, given what we hear so much about German efficiency.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  326. @anonymous

    Well, consider “holocaust” as a word like a black magic spell.
    By using it also at every opportunity, you unknowingly prolong the spell.
    The aim should be breaking the spell, not to keep this spell alive, because it is nourishment for certain forces, they draw power from the spell, because the spell has been bound to Jews.
    The Jews basically operate on magic and sorcery, their rabbis do.
    Hollywood is also a magic operation, 200 years ago, people would have called Hoollywood black magic, that blurs the mind of people.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
    , @anonymous
  327. Ron Unz says:
    @Truth3

    You should take a look at the controlled comment section after the article…

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/sunday-morning-at-auschwitz/

    Shocking that nobody… and I mean nobody… challenges the falsehoods and propaganda that riddle that article.

    Mr. Unz, look what they have done to your magazine.

    Yes, it’s pretty unfortunate. Just in case you hadn’t seen it, here’s the article I published last year about how I got purged from TAC:

    http://www.unz.com/runz/why-the-american-conservative-purged-its-own-publisher/

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Saggy
  328. Wally says: • Website
    @Rurik

    No, no.

    Marlon Brando was good pals with Moshe Peer who claimed to have been gassed SIX times.

    – Former inmate, Moshe Peer, recalled a miraculous escape from death as an eleven-year-old in the camp. In a 1993 interview with a Canadian newspaper, the French-born Peer claimed that he “was sent to the camp gas chamber at least six times…maybe children resist better, I don’t know.” Gazette, Montreal, Canada, August 5, 1993

  329. turtle says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    The term “useful idiot” comes to mind.
    No doubt James Corbett’s famous video ist streng verboten.

  330. S says:
    @Saggy

    Interesting video with the rabbi.

    He’s illustrating the point that there’s an ongoing struggle with those that accept that there are actual historical distinct people’s, ethnicities, races, and cultures, worthy of preservation, which he boldly indicates he does, and those who refuse to accept that and wish to ‘mix’ away everyone and everything.

    Though he doesn’t say it, the latter types often seem to want to have their cake and eat it too..ie ‘mixing’ in just about every way, while simultaneously retaining the benefits of some shell of their former identity, which ultimately doesn’t seem tenable.

    The world’s a big place; seems there could be some place with plentiful land and resources allotted for those who don’t care at all about the preservation of the various races and cultures, where they could mix away with abandon. It could be called ‘New Pangea’.

    I’ve never yet come across one of these ‘internationalist’ ‘progressive’ types who would accept such a thing, though, from what I can tell.

    They seem to want it all, which in the end, will probably mean that they’ll have nothing at all.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  331. Wally says:
    @Commentator Mike

    – Strawman.

    No one says they deserved what never happened. You’re lying and illogical as usual.
    But then that is what Communists do.

    – And why don’t you simply present proof for the alleged 6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    What are you afraid of, little weakling?

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  332. @Anthony Aaron

    You forgot that, in Holocaustianity, the truth is no defense.

  333. @Wally

    Strawman you. I never said I believe in the 6 M figure or the soap or some other details. What self-respecting Nazi would want to wash himself with the soap made from a dirty Jew? But if they used it on those they kept alive for slave labour that’s another matter.

    No point debating with someone whose only recourse is personal insults. Everyone can do that. When thousand page tomes fail then just run your mouth with whatever. He, he. Just goes to show. Shrieking emotional outbursts and foaming at the mouth. He, he. Very Jewish and very Germanic too. He, he. Why? Did I offend the memory of the greatest leader and soldier in world’s history. He, he. Some corporal is it?

  334. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Historicus

    Prove it didn’t happen? You cannot where did all the missing people go. You come into a station, you get off on a platform (photos galore proof this) a vast amount of people go one way, some people go another way. The vast amount of people go into a building where there are ovens with slabs, smoke stacks etc. There were ovens built by a company.
    None of the vast amount of people who went into that building come out. Where did they go.
    You start the next day and repeat from when the train arrives at the station.
    It is ABC. There rest is the rest. Why have ovens. There were 45 ovens. Why have rooms with chambers? Why have piles of clothes and hair.
    Liberators from all over the world liberated those camps and saw with their own eyes. Russians, Americans. No one can make that up. The Germans never decided it. If Germany was falsely accused why not prove it, they did not. Worrying about ground water etc. is ridiculous. IT HAPPENED.
    5 million Jews disappeared before EYES OF THEIR FAMILY.
    They used petrol for fuel.
    Ask the makers of the Ovens why they were designed the way they were. They broke down constantly from over usage and heat.

    • Agree: FB
    • Troll: Saggy
    • Replies: @Germanicus
    , @Rich
    , @Truth3
    , @FB
  335. @Commentator Mike

    ‘Deserve’ is a non-Buddhist construct.

    We say kamma-vipaka. The law of action-result of action.

    What is not kamma cannot have vipaka.

  336. anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    I changed the name of the man I replied to and kept it simple for the sake of the audience that may read the article it’s attached to but I believed it needed to be said. We’ll see…

    We’ll see… ?!

    You expect some kind of awakening to happen because of some nobody’s words? Delusional much?

    the destruction of my heritage, culture, homeland, its institutions and its economy

    I don’t have a clear idea about the true scale of this, except for whatever you degenerates bleat about, but let me tell ya, at this point it is not even close to justice served, for all the evils AmeriKKKa and its other imperialist minions have wrought on this earth.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  337. Wally says:
    @Rurik

    said:
    “Where on the Internet will we be able to speak freely about these issues if/when Mr. Unz invaluable site when Ron retires, or the Unz Review is otherwise terminated?
    I don’t think it’s possible for a site like this to be perpetual, and what I wonder is if there’s anything quite like it out there. (Years ago there was an excellent site called The Liberty Forum, but it was shut down by the usual suspects).”

    Where you been? CODOH has been debunking the fake “holocaust” for decades.
    From A to Z, it’s all there. Join in, read, ask questions, & make comments.
    See the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com
    Cheers.

    “One should not ask, how this mass murder was made possible. It was technically possible, because it happened. This has to be the obligatory starting-point for any historical research regarding this topic. We would just like to remind you: There is no debate regarding the existence of the gas chambers, and there can never be one.”

    – endorsed by 34 “reputable historians” and published in the French daily Le Monde on February 21, 1979.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  338. @Sic Semper

    Judaism is essentially sociopathy disguised as a religion. One mark of a sociopath is an inability to feel remorse for anything he does.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  339. Wally says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    said:
    “Then they just used open pits outside, and the ashes flew away.”

    Nope. You don’t even know about the ridiculous tall tales you’re trying to defend:

    “The mass graves were opened and the corpses were taken out, to be consumed by the flames of huge pyres (the ‘roasts’). The bones were crushed and, together with the ashes, were reburied in the same graves

    – Israel Gutman (ed.), Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, 4 vols., Macmillan, New York 1990, vol. 4, p. 1481-87

    Again, a ridiculous story to be sure, but there it is.
    And Jews claim to know exactly where these alleged “mass graves” are, but in fact there are no alleged human remains.

    Game over.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  340. @Fran Taubman

    Prove it didn’t happen?

    Are you a bit thick?
    You people are the claiming side, you people admit there is no physical evidence to prove your claim. you people run an inquisition against truth, research and speech.
    You people have to prove, you are the claiming side, because only morons try to prove a negative.

    In essence, you demonstrate again and again, that you are really not the brightest bulb in the jewish menorah, because you insist that a negative is proven. Totally absurd, bonkers, a bit mentally retarded.

    You in fact turn around the legal principle “innocent until proven guilty”.
    Hence your jewish star chamber “justice” of “truth being no defense”.

  341. Rich says:
    @Fran Taubman

    It’s very difficult to face facts that contradict sincerely held beliefs. But you can’t argue the physics of the matter. The nazis didn’t have the infrastructure to cremate, or gas, that many people. It would be an impossible project. You must also understand that many Germans, Poles, Russians and others lost their whole families, too, don’t you? Such is the terrible cost of war. No one is saying many Jews didn’t die in WW2, it’s just that the holocaust narrative doesn’t stand up to vigorous investigation. That’s why some countries have passed laws forbidding research into the issue. There would be no reason to forbid research if the truth landed everyone at the accepted narrative.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  342. @anarchyst

    One would think that jews would be happy that “6 million” were not gassed or otherwise “dispatched”

    Excellent point.

  343. @Bardon Kaldian

    “But, generally- it doesn’t work. You can’t base your identity on atrocities you’ve been victims of. It is not sustainable.”

    They’ve been sustaining it for over 3,000 years.

  344. @Germanicus

    To expose your ridiculous insanity Anja, erm Linda, I ask you to prove that Swinburne Island did not kill and cremate immigrants. Impossible task.

    After several cholera pandemics in the nineteenth century, the federal government built the Swinburne Island and Hoffman Island to serve as areas of quarantine for immigrants arriving by ship and carrying contagious diseases.[1] Along with Hoffman Island, which was constructed in 1873, Swinburne was used through the early 20th century to quarantine immigrants to the United States who were found to be suffering dangerous contagious diseases upon arrival at the Port of New York. Immigrants suspected of having such diseases were taken to the quarantine hospital and were not allowed to go to Ellis Island for entry until they were shown to be well or were cured of the disease.

    Swinburne was the second built, about a mile south of the earlier island, and it has a crematorium.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swinburne_Island

    Do you get your ridiculousness?

    German camps were also multilayered in regard to fighting an epidemic, with very similar equipment, infrastructure, buildings, just like the Islands of New York.

    Why would Auschwitz have a hospital, brothel, theater, music hall, football field,showers, a kitchen, a swimming pool and camp money?

  345. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Germanicus

    5 million missing people is proof. You are so in the back woods with this it is not funny.
    You have to locate those missing people to prove they never died. The Holocaust is a scientific and historical fact no matter how much it upsets you. The majority of the world sees you as a flake, a mentally deranged person that manipulates facts to suit a narrative.
    There are witnesses both German and Jewish. Physical evidence in the chambers and photos of the bodies.
    You go and find those missing fathers, mothers, sisters and bothers that went into a smoke stacked building and never came out. And listen to the people that worked there, and survived. Story after story.

  346. @ChuckOrloski

    Thanks. Chuck. Unfortunately, what we see in the video is about what one would expect in the brainwashed gulag.

    It’s an uphill struggle all the way.

    And speaking about forgetting, it’s amazing how many young folk never heard about Vietnam. Sorta like how few have ever heard of the war Uncle Shithead waged on Mexico, or the earlier one against Canada.

  347. What the ‘Murkan government has become
    after years of war-making delirium injected into the system by neocons…

  348. @Germanicus

    Indeed, the burden of the proof is on the accuser. When investigated, the story of the gas chambers, cremations or burnings doesn’t stand up. However, millions of Jews were abducted by train and locked up in concentration camps, and did not return. If they were not murdered, then what happened to them? Revisionists have no answer to this legitimate question, and in this case the burden of providing an answer is on them. 100,000 Jews from Holland were abducted, hardly any returned. 400,000 Jews from Hungary were abducted, hardly any returned. If they were not murdered, what became of them?

  349. Truth3 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Fran-a-Linda Taubman…

    You get nastier and more hysterical (((Jewish traits))) as the ‘discussion’ continues on.

    You do realize others notice this… right?

    Time to change to a new alias Fran… er… Linda.

  350. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Wally

    There is a good photo of the bone cruncher.
    Done

    • Replies: @Wally
  351. JamesinNM says:

    Truth can withstand the most rigorous scrutiny, but a lie cannot. You can dim the light of truth with a shade or hide it with a cover, but you cannot extinguish it. In the end, the truth will be shouted from the roof tops for all to hear.

  352. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Rich

    However, even more incredible was the actions taken by the Nazis between August 19 and September 28 last. Vilkis said that in the middle of August the SS mobilized a party of 100 Russian war prisoners, who were taken to the ravines. On August 19 these men were ordered to disinter all the bodies in the ravine. The Germans meanwhile took a party to a nearby Jewish cemetery whence marble headstones were brought to Babii Yar [sic] to form the foundation of a huge funeral pyre. Atop the stones were piled a layer of wood and then a layer of bodies, and so on until the pyre was as high as a two-story house. Vilkis said that approximately 1,500 bodies were burned in each operation of the furnace and each funeral pyre took two nights and one day to burn completely. The cremation went on for 40 days, and then the prisoners, who by this time included 341 men, were ordered to build another furnace. Since this was the last furnace and there were no more bodies, the prisoners decided it was for them. They made a break but only a dozen out of more than 200 survived the bullets of the Nazi machine guns.[40]

    People saw there families disappear before their eyes. Who says that Germany could not perform mass extermination you. If you go on line you can find photos of the outdoor pits with bodies all around. There is a done of evidence. It is not like loosing someone on a fighting front. These people exited a train as a family unit, some walked towards a building with a smoke stack and never came out. Piles of clothes not people. You have to look at this like a human story. Imagine your father disappears at a restaurant. You look and he is no wear to be found. 5 million Jews are missing that is an incontrovertible fact. There are birth certificates and no people.

  353. @Fran Taubman

    So where is the conclusive, definitive, unquestionable truth about this missing “5 million”? Actually, was it not “6 million”? And why is denial of the Holocaust a criminal offense in various Western jurisdictions, but not of the Armenian Genocide, which was perpetrated against a Christian nation and was far better documented?

  354. @Franklin Ryckaert

    If they were not murdered, then what happened to them?

    How many are we talking about?

    I take official red cross records, which give about 280.000 cases of death., which is not only Jews, but in total for all German camps.

    So lets say generously, to satisfy your death cult, 200.000 Jews died of Typhus, or even natural deaths as the Auschwitz death records suggest.
    50.000 Jews went to Palestine under the Haavara agreement, obviously alive, an unknown number of Jews went to the US, UK and basically just got themselves a new name and identity. The Soviets count war losses as “holocaust victims”.

    Ok, so, were do you get the 100.000 dutch Jews from my shilling friend? Any proof of this number? Oh yeah, nizkor or whatever biased BS source.

    If I look at the jewish almanac before and immediately after the war in 1945 up until 1948, basic math tells, the Jews had in 1945 a surplus population of about 5400 Jews compared to 1939. Explain please.

    I take it for granted, you don’t really try to do the ridiculous 6 million fable.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  355. @Germanicus

    The rest went to Israel after the war, and as you know very well, the ships with Jews had been waiting in the Baltic or north sea for months to go to Palestine, eg the ship “Exodus”, and the Brits/Allies sank some of these ships, because these eastern European Jews on these ships were aggressive and could not be unloaded anywhere, they behaved badly as UN records show very clearly.

    To give context why Brits sank some of these ships, the Jews had meanwhile engaged in terrorism against the Brits in Palestine, Lehi, Haganah, Stern gang, which essentially became the IDF, murdered Lord Moyne, did King David Hotel bombing, murdering the Swedish count Folke Bernadotte.

    • Replies: @turtle
  356. @anonymous

    Hey! Even the elementary school-age crowd is reading Unz now!

  357. To what level is evidence of each individual of the 5 million’s suffering? To the level of testimony at the Dachau trials? 130 crushed testicles of 2000 accused men and so on? The missing appeared in 1949. Long time to having been missed to be missing for such a large figure.

  358. @Fran Taubman

    QUOTE There are birth certificates and no people. END QUOTE

    That is an outright lie. Like the rest of your posts.

    Do you actually believe that is a “bone grinder” that Moses Korn is standing in front of ? Hilarious.

    How did they get rid of it? Did they put the bone grinding machine into a Bone-grinding machine Grinder?

    No one believes your lunatic fairy tales. The fact that you do only proves that “the holocaust” is a religion for the delusional.

    • LOL: Tusk
  359. @Hamlet's Ghost

    A couple other hallmarks of the sociopath are the belief that you’re special, chosen by fate or history and that others are inferior to you; blaming others when things go wrong, instead of accepting responsibility for the consequences of your actions; and the belief that others exist primarily for your benefit.

    • Replies: @Hamlet's Ghost
  360. Saggy says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    I read your comments on being ousted as publisher, which include …

    An important aspect of TAC’s domestic policy agenda still consisted of strident criticism of non-white immigrants and their supposed incompatibility with American society, a position I found distasteful or even ridiculous, but a cross I was willing to bear on behalf of my far more crucial foreign policy concerns.

    Are you still so sanguine about non-white immigration into the US? Europe? ….. Really?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  361. Zumbuddi says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    Elizabeth Warren has a plan!

    Raise taxes to pay for old-school programs and child care subsidies.

    Next it will be, Turn your babies over to the gubmint as you rise from the birthing room.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  362. @Fran Taubman

    Otto Frank is the sole survivor of his family. His two daughters died of typhus in a camp. His wife died of starvation in the camp.
    He had a wife and two daughters that died. He survived. There are countless stories like this.

    So Frank’s wife and daughters were not sent to gas chambers, shot, electrocuted, or boiled alive? Were these three deaths any more tragic than the millions starved to death by various communist regimes? How many other millions of people died from starvation or disease during the 1920’s, 30’s, and 40’s?

    During the 8 years of WWII, it is estimated that over 70 million people died. Should 64 million deaths be forgotten while we are eternally reminded of a claimed 6 million deaths? Note, that 70 million number does not include the millions killed by the Soviets and the Red Chinese before and after the war. Are the victims of communism not as deserving as the victims of the Nazis?

    The proof is the survivors.

    One of my grandmothers claimed to have seen angels walk the soul of her father out of the house on the night he died. Should she be believed without question?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  363. @Fran Taubman

    And listen to the people that worked there, and survived.

    Why are there even survivors, if Germans had allegdly an extermination policy? Should I ask tortured Hoess? He told scientifically impossible things, extracted by torture.

    You rely on “witnesses” exclusively, basically hear say, the weakest form of evidence, because witnesses can lie, can be intimitated, threatened, bought and bribed, or tortured.
    Hence why a true court of law will not convict someone only on witness account and any lack of forensic evidence to back up testimony.

    If your mommy, claimed, you broke your leg 10 years ago to get some insurance pay out, and and X-ray clearly disproves your mom’s claim, then that is a case where physical, forensic evidence disproves witness testimony.

    Story after story.

    Wiesel wrote in 1967 about a visit to a Rebbe, a Hasidic rabbi, he had not seen for 20 years. The Rebbe is upset to learn that Wiesel has become a writer, and wants to know what he writes. “Stories,” Wiesel tells him, ” … true stories”:

    About people you knew? “Yes, about people I might have known.” About things that happened? “Yes, about things that happened or could have happened.” But they did not? “No, not all of them did. In fact, some were invented from almost the beginning to almost the end.” The Rebbe leaned forward as if to measure me up and said with more sorrow than anger: That means you are writing lies! I did not answer immediately. The scolded child within me had nothing to say in his defense. Yet, I had to justify myself: “Things are not that simple, Rebbe. Some events do take place but are not true; others are—although they never occurred[66].”

    why would liar Eli discuss with his father to be evacuated by the Germans, instead of waiting for the Soviets?

    Stories, oh yeah.

    It was no lie. In my mind, it was true

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  364. Wally says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    said:
    “If they were not murdered, what became of them?”

    LOL. If Jews are so sure that millions of Jews were murdered, then why do they ask such dumb questions like “What became of them?”

    After all, Jews say ’6M Jews & 5M others’ went to huge mass graves, Jews claim to know the exact locations of these alleged enormous mass graves to this day, yet Jews cannot show us anything.
    recommended:
    INFLUX OF 3,000,000 JEWS; Tells Newspaper Executives in Germany That Refugees Have Created Grave Problem, JUNE 24, 1946:
    https://forum.codoh.com/download/file.php?id=2160
    https://archive.is/Jw6EM
    ‘J. Graf and the illogical canard: ‘Where did Jews go then?’ / & more’: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8272
    WJC’s Stephen Wise said 1,250,000 – 1,500,000 Polish Jews homeless in Europe, outside of Poland, & alive after WWII: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10191
    Jews evacuated to USSR during war : https://archive.is/jA9iI
    and:
    more Jews evacuated to USSR during war:
    https://www.jta.org/1944/02/23/archive/german-lauds-russia-for-joining-intergovernmental-committee-for-refugees
    exc.:
    “Since the outbreak of the war hundreds of thousands of Jews from Poland, Rumania and the Baltic countries have been given shelter in the U.S.S.R., and many of them were permitted to pass through Russia en route to the United States and to Palestine.”

    Imagine in a real / legit court of law where someone claims that millions of people were murdered and dumped into mass graves, but then could not produce the claimed mass graves and the alleged contents. They would be laughed out of that court.

    Jews went where Jews are.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
    , @OEMIKITLOB
  365. Rich says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I understand that belief in the holocaust is on par with religious belief, and difficult to question, but do you know how many Russians died in WW2? 27,000,000. That’s a lot, no? 9.000.000 Germans died and 6,000,000 Poles. All the people of Central Europe suffered horribly in an unnecessary war. Imagine the poor German child, his father killed at Dresden, the Polish kid who lost his Dad at Katyn, the Russian lad, left fatherless after Stalingrad. All European people suffered from the war. Your people are no different, or more special, than these others. Sorry.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  366. Wade says:

    haha.. I’m from Arkansas and my grandmother once told a saleslady that she would like to “Jew her down on that” regarding some item she was selling. Now my grandmother didn’t mean anything by that. She was just repeating something she had always heard. She was pretty amused when the saleslady, who just so happened to be a Jew, replied “well, instead, how about I Gentile you up!”

    My Grandmother felt really bad and told me that as a cautionary tale so that I wouldn’t also some day inadvertently offend an unsuspecting Jew. I wish they could’ve just laughed about it together, instead.

    I can say that in all my decades living here in the south that this is pretty much the worst example of antisemitism I’ve come across. Never once in a church, bar or anywhere else have I ever had conversations with anyone where they expressed displeasure about “The Jews”. Just try it some time. You’ll turn everyone off here really quick. I’ve tried to have conversations about some of Ron Unz’s Pravda series topics with close family members and it seems to make them uneasy.

    The South has a very unjustified reputation of antisemitism IMHO.

  367. turtle says:
    @Germanicus

    The Israelis prattle on about “terrorists.”
    They do know about terrorists, alright, since the State of Israel was founded by terrorists and mass murderers, and they have repeatedly elected such to lead their government over the years.
    Pot, meet kettle.

  368. Rurik says:
    @Wally

    Where you been? CODOH has been debunking the fake “holocaust” for decades.

    Yes, I’m aware of CODOH and Ernst Zundel and David Irving and all the rest.

    I know we’ve been harangued over the ‘Holocaust’ for many decades, and how its lies and exaggerations been used to demonize Germany and all Germans, (and to a lesser extent all white Christians) and bludgeon the world into accepting a modern day genocide in Palestine as the consummation of our lessons learned from the Holocaust. [Irony of ironies, and tragedies of tragedy].

    But I still think the issue of 9/11 is the Achilles heel. Because anyone can see the controlled demolition of building seven with their own eyes, and go from there. And the people who perpetrated that crime, are still in power. And demanding more and more wars. This time on Iran. How long before Trump starts talking about Iran and 9/11 in the same sentence?

    The exact same scurrilous scum who perpetrated the Holocaust lie upon us all, are the exact same scum perpetrating the 9/11 lie, in order to make the 21st century look like the last one; Endless wars for Zion.

    Cheers.

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  369. SaintJ says: • Website

    I appreciate that Dr. Willian Latson was quite diplomatic in his responses, which is VERY refreshing for someone in the world of academia to have the courage to challenge the status quo imposed on the students and staff. I’m not at all surprised in the outcome of his attempt to not lie, thank you Voltaire…”To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize”

  370. Zumbuddi says:

    What do you say we collect all of Linda’s tales, print them up in a booklet, and take attack of booklets to the next meeting of the Public School Boatd.

    • LOL: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  371. @Franklin Ryckaert

    However, millions of Jews were abducted by train and locked up in concentration camps, and did not return.

    Evidence for both claims, please!

    Did not return? Maybe they went elsewhere. I’ve been to lots of places to which I’ve never returned. See how easy this stuff is?

  372. @Fran Taubman

    People saw there families disappear before their eyes.

    I believe you may be thinking of what’s happened to many Palestinians over the last 70 years or so. Lots of terrible things have happened and continue to happen to them. Same goes for Iraqis, Libyans, and many many others, and it’s seems unlikely that Germans were involved. Can you guess who may be?

    Could you also give us your version of what happened to the Russians during the 20th century?

  373. @Wally

    Don’t be so hard on the dutch shill, who is flexible being alt-right and whatever if it suits him.
    He is at least making a little progress acknowledging some absurdities. Last time he was stuck with 100% absurdity, now its only 90% absurdity.

    When investigated, the story of the gas chambers, cremations or burnings doesn’t stand up.

    Can he be trusted or be taken seriously? Nope, but he in fact denied the holocaust and we should report him to the dutch inquisition.

    Unfortunately, the original speech given at the AZK conference by Sylvia Stolz was purged from the internet, and there is no english subtitled video any longer available.
    She was imprisoned for the conference speech for, and in May 2019, she was imprisoned again for thought crimes, for exposing the devilish machinations in jewish star chamber “courts” in occupied Germany, where the truth is no defense.

    • Agree: BengaliCanadianDude
  374. @Zumbuddi

    Next it will be, Turn your babies over to the gubmint as you rise from the birthing room.

    Hey, that’s why they allow us dumb goyim to breed. And don’t they just love F*&(^ing us! 😉

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  375. @Rurik

    To Wally, who hopefully listened, Rurik succinctly explained: “But I still think the issue of 9/11 is the Achilles heel. Because anyone can see the controlled demolition of building seven with their own eyes, and go from there.”

    “9/11 is the Achilles Heel.” 👍! Larry Silverstein knew all, and he was allowed to scoot away.

    Thanks & my respect.

    • Agree: NoseytheDuke
  376. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda Rice"] says:
    @Zumbuddi

    I am flattered.

  377. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda Rice"] says:
    @Rich

    No argument. Doesn’t negate the what happened to the Jews.

    • Replies: @Rich
  378. @Rurik

    Rurik,

    Do I note a tone of sarcasm in your commentary or is it for real? Interesting photo. That must have been made by the Nazis themselves during the war as one of those displaying the exhibits seems to be an interned homosexual with a pink triangle. Is that correct? I guess it was his handiwork from the camp work detail. I can’t tell what the armband on the other one identifies him as. Any idea? The other one to the right of the homosexual seems to be smiling as if proud of his work.

    There were also the gruesome and deadly “medical” experiments Nazis carried out on concentration camp inmates and Soviet POWs. Apparently these were very well documented and lots of evidence is available. The allies took away a lot of the files and made use of the results. Of course it doesn’t mean the Americans and others didn’t also perform deadly experiments on unsuspecting victims like prisoners, but the Nazi ones were in a league of their own. And the Nips were doing similar in occupied China.

    But why are you angry with Palestinians and Iranians? They had nothing to do with this.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  379. Theodore says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You have to be a very deranged person not to believe the survivors.

    Nobody denies that Jews were rounded up and sent to concentration camps. Nobody denies that prisoners died in the camps, mostly at the end of the war due to overcrowding, lack of food and medicine when Germany was crumbling. Prisoners died of disease and starvation just like German civilians.
    So-called “Holocaust deniers” claim hundreds of thousands of people died in the concentration camps, based on the actual records. The “Holocaust believers” allege that millions died in the concentration camps, something for which there is no evidence to support.

    Over 95% of the survivors at Auschwitz made no mention of ‘homicidal gas chambers’ in their testimony if you go by the 51,000 testimonies of the “USC Shoah Foundation”.

    Also:

    “Over half of the 20,000 testimonies from Holocaust survivors on record at Yad Vashem are “unreliable” and have never been used as evidence in Nazi war crimes trials [according to archives director and Auschwitz survivor Shmuel Krakowski], Krakowski says that many survivors, wanting “to be part of history,” may have let their imaginations run away with them.”
    SOURCE: B. Amouyal, “Doubts over evidence of camp survivors,” Jerusalem Post (Israel), August 17, 1986, p. 1

    It’s actually quite FOOLISH to believe anything and everything claimed by survivors. It’s also foolish to claim every single survivor lied, but “Holocaust deniers” simply do not claim that. It’s a strawman argument

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @S
  380. turtle says:

    The allies took away a lot of the files and made use of the results.

    Particularly the freezing experiments, as I understand it.
    USAF couldn’t perform those experiments themselves (not officially, anyway) but were happy to get the data intended for the Luftwaffe.
    So what if a few Russian POWs froze to death.
    Hell, the evil Commies were our mortal enemies by then, anyhow (’cause We Said So, and Don’t You Question It). Strange, how a Valuable and Trusted Ally can turn into Satan Incarnate almost overnight. Devilish, that.

  381. @Wally

    “–Imagine in a real / legit court of law where someone claims that millions of people were murdered and dumped into mass graves, but then could not produce the claimed mass graves and the alleged contents.”

    I’ve imagined this scenario many times. This particular claim is arguably the single-most problematic and significant for those who argue in its defense. I have problems with it. If I were on a jury and had to decide a case based on this claim, I would not decide on behalf of the plaintiff(s). It is a very weak argument. There’s no “there” there. Yet it is widely accepted as irrefutable fact.

  382. anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @Germanicus

    How about The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians

    https://www.amazon.com/Israeli-Holocaust-Against-Palestinians/dp/0970378424

    The criminal zionist jews want this word be used ONLY for the chosen people. Use of this word for others, they think, diminishes their unique case.
    Well, many people use this word when they want to expose the zionists’ hypocracy.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/before-the-holocaust-ottoman-jews-supported-the-armenian-genocides-architect/

  383. Parfois1 says:
    @Sparkon

    Poor attempt, only showing your ignorance. Still waiting and wearing my hat on my head.

  384. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda Rice"] says:
    @Theodore

    I tried to find that article in the Jerusalem Post. I saw the book, but could not find the article.
    I have listened to a lot of testimony sounds pretty reasonable to me. The way the transports worked the separations at the train station. The building with the somoke stack. The SS telling the people going to the gas building to take off their clothes and that jobs would await for them after showers, and that the people never came out.
    Same story over and over almost repetitive. In many different languages.
    Claude Lanzman in his movie ShoA did secret recordings where Germans talked about the trains and transports, and knowing what was going on. Also the gassing vans at Chelmmo.

    There is a vast amount of information from Jews and Germans. The Nuremberg trials.

    You cannot possible deny this part of history and be normal. Most survivors did not witness the actual gassing and crematorium they were sent to the work barracks.

    The Sonderkommando the workers have testified. Filip Muller. These people are not lying. They are not. They talk about the back up of the crematoriums

    As early as June 13, 1943, all was not well with the new installation. … Eventually the ovens seemed to fall apart. Crematorium Four failed completely after a short time and Crematoria Five had to be shut down repeatedly. (TWC, V:624) (Between 1945 and 1962 Polish officials found five manuscripts written by Sonderkommando members before their deaths. The published manuscripts and documents relate to the specific process of extermination at Birkenau, and provide detailed descriptions of the crematoria and gas chambers.)

  385. anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jake

    Either you act to try to rebuild Christendom (which requires historic Christianity) in some form, or all your efforts are wasted time and energy at best, and may often serve anti-Christ.

    Isn’t “historic Christianity,” Catholicism? You know, the same accursed church which is slowly imploding, because of the degenerates who provide its spiritual guidance? And, your kind is more worried about Paki rape gangs, while your entire spiritual edifice is crumbling… because of Christian priest rape gang, among others. Lol!

    You talk about heresies about the Juden scum, and even go so far as to conflate Islam (true monotheism) with Judaism (monotheistic paganism), which is pathetically hilarious, but you conveniently ignore your own heresies (incarnation? lol!)… you godless Pagan Polytheist Mangods-worshipper.

  386. @Jacques Sheete

    Yes, JS, the mothers do love “fucking us” and we, The Restless Consumers” are delighted to nanny the millionaire & billionaire babies.

    Kyrie eleison. 🙄.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  387. Truth3 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    See? As soon as she was identified as Fran Taubman, she added Rice.

  388. @Richard B

    OK, Richard B:

    What do you intend to actually do, other than point and shout “Evil?”

    Counterinsurgency

  389. @Kolya Krassotkin

    Yep. One could go down the list of sociopathic indicators and see the JQ as a medical psychiatric issue more than anything else. It’s uncanny.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  390. anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jake

    Civilization worth having will be rebuilt the way it was before: by the Catholic Church.

    Lol!

    A civilisation where no child, primarily, or man or woman will be truly safe from the evil-eye of the predator “godmen,” the pillars of this accursed church.

    Seriously pagan, think before you shoot off your fingers.

  391. prawda [AKA "prawda a nie klamstwa"] says:

    In 1976 I was asked by a graduate student to accompany her to a private party that her thesis advisor was having for her students, staff and co-workers at her home in Warsaw.. Towards the end of the evening when most of the people left the party the topic of conversation turned to the Jews in Poland. I remember she stated that starting with Boleslaw Bierut – Rotenschwanz that between 1944 to 1969 over 2.6 Million Polish Jews changed their ethnic identities and names to Polish, The files that were stored in the Polish State Archives that she personally came across while working at the Polish State Archives. She went on to state that the Jews that changed their names relocated to western part of Poland vacated by the Germans. In the beginning I sort of thought that what she was some what inflating the total figure until now and upon reading the released CIA files from 1954 stating that Jews can not leave Poland as there would be no one to run the country. Also the CIA documents affirm that most of the Jews settled in Wroclaw and the western part of Poland.
    She remarked at the end of the discussion with” just imagine as to what would happen to me if the authorities learned that I am telling to you. I would be tried, shot on the spot or imprisoned or sent to Siberia. That is why to date all of Poland’s Presidents and Prime Ministers just happen to be ethnic Jews. Lech Walesa – Lejba Kohne “BOLEK”, Tadeusz Mazowiecki – Icek Dikman, Aleksander Kwasniewski – Izaak Stoltzman, Jaroslaw i Lech Kaczynscy – Kalkstein and etc.

    -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=383iGxRmchY –

    -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=383iGxRmchY –

    The following is a post by a Polish commentator at a discussion group. We at JTR cannot verify the accuracy of this list, nor the Polish source book for this. But, from our own research, the names we recognize on this list from our own research (Bronislaw Geremek, Jerzy Kosinski, Stanislaw Krajewski, Adam Michnik, Jerzy Urban, Dawid Warshawski) are indeed Jewish. But Lech Walesa?!). ]

    LIST OF NAME CHANGES FOR POLAND’S MOST POWERFUl/INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE IN OUR MODERN ERA. This was a recent post to Polonian groups … We read:

    [MORE]

    Lista osób o zmienionych nazwiskach (Or, “List of persons with name changes”). It continues: Nazwiska autentyczne nizej wymienionych osób zostaly ustalone w oparciu o… (Or, Authentic names of the folks listed below are based upon: (A) Secret catalog data of the people of Poland, according to the Central Bureau’s MSW addresses [Archival numbers are as listed in the Pol. Language]; and (B) Data given by historians in their many publications. ————————————————————————–

    A) Dane tajne kartoteki ludnosci Polski przy Centralnym Biurze. Adresów MSW (nr arch. 1/6526/1 – data archiwacji 9.07.1984, nr rejestracyjny 14750-99 – data rejestracji Wydz. III-2, SUSW Warszawa).

    (B) Dane ujawnione przez historyków w ich licznych publikacjach.

    1. Jerzy Albrecht – Finkelstein

    2. Amsterdamski – Saul Henrykowski

    3. Stanislaw Arski – Apfelbaum

    4. Stefan Arski – Artur Salman

    5. Bronislaw Baczko – Gideon

    6. Leszek Balcerowicz – Aaron Bucholtz

    7. Ryszard Bender – Fajwisch Berenstein

    8. Jan K. Bielecki – Izaak Blumenfeld

    9. Boleslaw Bierut – Rotenschwanz

    10. Alef Bolkowiak – Alef Gutman

    11. Michal Boni – Jakub Bauer

    12. Jerzy Borejsza – Beniamin Goldberg

    13. Wiktor Borowicki – Aaron Berman

    14. Marek Borowski – Szymon Berman

    15. Stefan Bratkowski – Blumstejn

    16. Stanislaw Brodzki – Bronstejn

    17. Jan Brzechwa – Jan Worobiec

    18. Ryszard Bugaj – Izaak Blumfeld

    19. Zbigniew Bujak – lewy syn rabina Malachowskiego

    20. August Chelkowski – Dawid Cnajbaum

    21. red. Kamila Chilinska – Halpern

    22. Wieslaw Chrzanowski – Szymon Knopfstejn

    23. Adam Cichocki – Aaron Zigenbaum

    24. Wlodzimierz Cimoszewicz – Dawid Goldstein

    25. Bernard Cukier – Kolski

    26. Józef Cyrankiewicz – Izaak Cukerman

    27. Marek Czekalski (prezydent Lodzi) – Wachter

    28. Tadeusz Daniszewski – Dawid Kirschbaum

    29. Ostap Dluski – Adolf Langer

    30. Jan Dobraczynski (pisarz) – Gutmacher

    31. Ludwik Dorn – Dornbaum

    32. Andrzej Drzycimski – Abraham Engel

    33. Lech Falandysz – Aaron Fleischman

    34. Arkady Fidler – Efroim Trusker

    35. Pawel Finder – Pinkus

    36. Aleksander Ford – Liwczyc

    37. Wladyslaw Frasyniuk – Rotenschwanz

    38. Jerzy Frydberg – Izrael Frydberg

    39. Bronislaw Geremek – Berele Lewartow

    40. Zofia Gomulkowa – Liwa Szoken

    41. Henryk Goryszewski – Jakub Glikman

    42. Jan Górecki – Muhlrad, dyr. gen. Min. Finansów

    43. Wiktor Górecki – Muhlrad, “komandos” z 1968

    44. Maria Górowska (sedzia) – Sand lub Berger

    45. Halina Górska – Sara Kugelschwanz

    46. Alina Grabowska – Sara Rotenfisch

    47. Hanna Gronkiewicz-Waltz – Hajka Grundbaum

    48. Ryszard Marek Gronski – Goldberger

    49. Wiktor Grosz – Izaak Medres

    50. Jacek Groszkowski – Hersz Herszkowicz

    51. Leon Halban – Blumenstok, prof. KUL-u

    52. Aleksander Hall – Miron Hurman

    53. Marian Hemar – jan Marian Herscheles

    54. Józefa Hennelowa – Zyta Goldmond

    55. Szymon Hirszowski – Szymon Hirsz

    56. Józef Hubner – Dawid Szwarc

    57. Piotr Ikonowicz – Dawid Goldsmith

    58. Henryk Jablonski – Apfelbaum

    59. Jerzy Jakubowski – Miszkatenblit

    60. Ludwika Jankowska – Luba Kowienska

    61. Andrzej Jaroszewicz – Aron Samet

    62. Piotr Jasienica – Lech Benar

    63. Jerzy Jaskiernia – Aaron Aksman

    64. Mieczyslaw Jastrun – Agatstein

    65. Tomasz Jastrun s. Mieczyslawa – Agatstein

    66. Kalina Jedrusik – Makusfeld

    67. Roman Jurys – Chaim Szacht

    68. Jaroslaw i Lech Kaczynscy – Kalkstein

    69. Ida Kaminska – Rachel, dyr. Teatru Zyd. w W-wie

    70. Jan Karski (kurier AK) – J. Kozielewski-?

    71. Andrzej Kern – Dawid Ginsberg

    72. Jan Kobuszewski – Weisleder

    73. adm. Piotr Kolodziejczyk – Robert Cajmer

    74. Grzegorz Kolodko – Samuel Hanerman

    75. Maria Komar (generalowa) – Riwa Zukerman

    76. Janusz Korczak – Henryk Goldszmit

    77. Janusz Korwin-Mikke – Ozjasz Goldberg

    78. Jerzy Kosinski – Josek Lewinkopf

    79. Janina Kotarbinska – Dina Steinberg, z. prof. Kotarbinskiego

    80. Mikolaj Kozakiewicz – Jakub Kleinman

    81. Helena Kozlowska – Bela Frisch

    82. Stanislaw Krajewski – Abel Kaimer

    83. Hanna Krall – Hajka Rejchgold

    84. Krzysztof Król – Aaron Rosenbaum

    85. Marian Krzaklewski – Dawid Zimmerman

    86. Lucyna Krzemieniecka – Wiera Zeidenberg

    87. Edward Krzemien (dziennikarz GW) – Wolf

    88. Kunicki – Goldfinger

    89. Kazimierz Kuratowski – Kuratow

    90. Zofia Kuratowska-Jaszunska – Goldman

    91. Jacek Kuron – Icek Kordblum

    92. Aleksander Kwasniewski – Izaak Stoltzman

    93. Jolanta Kwasniewska -Konty – Kohn

    94. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec – Letz de Tusch

    95. Janusz Lewandowski – Aaron Langman

    96. Olga Lipinska – Fajga Lippman

    97. Teresa Liszcz – Sara Lankamer

    98. Jan Litynski – Jakub Leman

    99. Lubiejski – Zygielman

    100. Lozowski – Salomon Abramowicz

    101. Aleksander Luczak – Dawid Lachman

    102. Helena Luczywo – Chaber (ojciec), Guter (matka)

    103. Antoni Macierewicz – Izaak Singer

    104. Aleksander Malachowski – Jakub Goldsmith

    105. Marek Markiewicz – Samuel Moritz

    106. Tadeusz Mazowiecki – Icek Dikman

    107. Jacek Merkel – Samuel Nelken

    108. Adam Michnik – Aaron Szechter

    109. Andrzej Milczanowski – Aaron Edelman

    110. Jerzy Milewski – Dawid Machonbaum

    111. Leszek Moczulski – Robert Berman

    112. Karol Modzelewski – Samuel Mendel

    113. Zygmunt Modzelewski – Fischer

    114. Jerzy Morawski – Izaak Szloma

    115. Stanislaw Nadzin – Gutman

    116. Stefan Niesiolowski – Aaron Nusselbaum

    117. Jerzy Robert Nowak (prof.) – Moritz Neuman

    118. Piotr Nowina-Konopka – Haim Kromer

    119. Róza Ochabowa – Grunbaum

    120. Andrzej Olechowski – Mosze Brandwein

    121. Józef Oleksy – Szymon Buchwio (Lemek)

    122. Jan Olszewski – Izaak Oksner

    123. Janusz Onyszkiewicz – Jojne Grynberg

    124. Jerzy Osiatynski – Szymon Weinbach

    125. Janina Paradowska – Rachela Busch

    126. Jan Parys – Haim Pufahl

    127. Aleksander Paszynski – Finkelstein

    128. Miroslawa Pazynska – Srula Kundelman

    129. Leslaw Podkanski – Izaak Freinkel

    130. Ezdra Podlaski – Rotenschwanz

    131. Kazimierz Pomian – Furman lub Rotenschwanz

    132. Radkiewiczowa, zona min. – Ruta Teitsch

    133. Helena Radlinska, prof.- Rajchman, Akad.Organ.Sl. Spol.

    134. Mieczyslaw Rakowski – Mojzesz Rak

    135. Jan Regula – Josek Mützenmacher

    136. Jan Maria Rokita – Izaak Goldwicht

    137. Andrzej Rosiewicz – A. Jarosiewicz

    138. Adolf Rudnicki (pisarz) – Schneider

    139. Jan Rulewski – Fikelman

    140. Rutkowski – Botwin

    141. Hanka Sawicka – Szapiro

    142. Ryszard Setnik – Szymon Bauman

    143. Izabela Sierakowska – Rebeka Sommer

    144. Janusz Sitynski – Jakub Leman

    145. Ernest Skalski – Wilker lub Nimen

    146. Skrzeszewski – Fokenman

    147. Krzysztof Skubiszewski – Szymon Schimel

    148. Wladyslaw Slawny – Rosenberg

    149. Antoni Slonimski – Stomma

    150. Zenon Smolarek – Izaak Zimmerman

    151. Ewa Spychalska – Salome Stein

    152. Marian Starownik – Symeon Steinman

    153. Stefan Starzewski – Gustaw Szusterman

    154. Stanislaw Stomma – Szaja Sommer

    155. Michal Strak – Baruch Steinberg

    156. Julian Stryjkowski (pisarz) – Pesah Stark

    157. Jerzy Stuhr (aktor) – Josek Feingold

    158. Hanna Suchocka – Hajka Silberstein

    159. Boleslaw Sulik – Jakub Steinberg

    160. Kalman Sultanik – Chaim Studniberg

    161. Irena Szewinska (sportowiec) – I. Kirszenstein

    162. Stefan Szwedowicz (brat Michnika) – Szechter

    163. Roman Szydlowski – Szancer

    164. Wieslawa Szymborska – Rottermund

    165. Pawel Spiewak – Stinger

    166. Boleslaw Tejkowski – Benio Tejkower

    167. Jerzy Turowicz – Jakow Turnau

    168. Stanislaw Tuszewski – Salomon Hardnik

    169. Magda Umer (piosenkarka) – Humer

    (córka zbrodniarza UB)

    170. Jerzy Urban – Josek Urbach

    171. Mieczyslaw Wachowski – Jakub Windman

    172. Henryk Walczak – Zukerman

    173. Lech Walesa – Lejba Kohne

    174. Dawid Warszawski – Konstanty Gebert

    175. Adam Wazyk (poeta) – Wagman

    176. Andrzej Werblan – Aaron Werblicht

    177. Andrzej Wieczorkiewicz – Hirsz Gelpern

    178. Aleksander Wirpsza – Leszek Szaruga

    179. Dariusz Wójcik – Dawid Wisental

    180. Andrzej Wróblewski – Andrzej Ibislauer

    181. Ludmila Wujec – Okrent

    182. Jan Wyka – Leopold Wessman

    183. Roman Zambrowski – Rubin Nusbaum

    184. Janusz Zaorski – Jakub Bauman

    185. Andrzej Zoll – Rojeschwanz, b. prezes Tryb. Konst.

    186. Janusz Ziólkowski – Izaak Zemler Wojskowi (Army)

    187. gen. Edward Braniewski – Brandsteter

    188. gen. Jan Drzewiecki – Holzer

    189. gen. Marian Graniewski – Gutaker

    190. gen. Wiktor Grosz – Izaak Medres

    191. gen. Artur Jastrzebski – Artur Ritter (Niemiec)

    192. gen. Grzegorz Korczynski – Kalinowski

    193. gen. Leszek Krzemien – Maksymilian Wolf

    194. gen. Matejewski – Kugelschwanz

    195. gen. Marian Naszkowski – Wasser

    196. gen. St. Poplawski – Siergiej Grochow (Rosjanin)

    197. gen. Karol Swierczewski – Walter Goltz lub Tenenbaum

    198. gen. Leon Turski – Tennenbaum

    199. gen. Mieczyslaw Wagrowski – Izaak Pustelman

    200. gen. Tadeusz Wilecki – Wallach

    201. gen. Zarako-Zarakowski – Zarako, Nacz. Prok. WP

    202. gen. Janusz Zarzycki – Neugebauer

    203. plk Michal Bron – Bronstein, prac. MSZ

    204. plk dr Charbicz – Marek Heberman, kom.Szpit.Woj.,Warszawa

    205. plk Otto Finski – Finkenstein, szef sztabu “Sluzba Polsce”

    206. plk Garbowski – Caber lub Gruber, d-ca dyw.

    207. plk Gradlewski – Goldberg, GZP WP

    208. plk Mieczyslaw Kowalski – Kohn

    209. plk Anatol Liniewski – Liberman, prac. ASG

    210. plk Rosinski – Rosenberg, DOW

    211. plk Rotowski – Rotholtz, szef Zarz. Sl. Techn. WP

    212. plk St. Sokolowski – Szabat, prac. WAP

    213. plk Pawel Solski – Pinkus, szef Sl. Samoch. WP

    214. plk Szulczynski – Szulcynger, d-ca pulku

    215. plk Wl. Tykocinski – Tikotiner, attache wojsk.

    216. plk Wadlewski – Waldman, dyr. Dep. Wojsk. w Min. Zdrowia

    217. plk Zarski – Silberstein, prac. WAP

    218. pplk Jerzy Bryn – Izrael Alter, prac. MSZ

    219. pplk Jan Dolanowski – Dollinger, DOW

    220. pplk Adam Laski – Gutbrot, prac. ASG

    221. pplk Henryk Zieman – Zysman, DOW

    222. mjr Roman Domanski – Rosenstand, DOW

    223. mjr Marcel Kot – Abram Sterenzys

    224. mjr Józef Sliwinski – Flaumenbaum, szef Wyd. “Sluzba Polsce”

    225. mjr Henryk Uminski – Keff

    226. Filip Berski – Badner, prokurator wojskowy

    227. Kazimierz Golczewski – Bauman, Nacz. Prok. Wojsk.

    228. sedzia Franciszek Kapczuk – Natanel Frau, Sad Wojsk. Wroclaw

    229. Maksymilian Litinski – Lifszyc, Nacz. Prok. Wojsk.

    230. Lubiejski – Zygielman, II Zarzad

    231. Jakub Lubowski – Chase Smen, prok. Dep. Sl. Spraw.

    232. Jan Orlinski – Unterweiser, Prok. Wojsk.

    233. Henryk Podlaski – Fink, Nacz. Prok. Wojsk.

    234. Rajski – Rajgrodzki, II Zarzad

    235. Roman Rawicz – Vogel, Najw. Sad Wojsk.

    236. Henryk Trojan – Adler, II Zarzad

    237. Henryk Walczak – Zukerman

    238. Zagórski – Winter, II Zarzad

    239. Arnold Zaleski – Zalkind, prac. Prok. Wojsk. Pracownicy MSW

    240. gen. Józef Hübner – Dawid Szwarc

    241. gen. Matejewski – Kugelschwanc

    242. gen. Miecz. Moczar – Mykola Demko (Ukrainiec)

    243. Gen. Julian Polan – Harasim, morderca sadowy

    244. gen. Roman Romkowski – Natan Grinspan-Kikiel

    245. gen. Józef Maria Rózanski – Rosenzweig

    246. plk Leon Andrzejewski – Ajzen Lejb-Wolff, dyr. Gabin. Ministra

    247. plk Bielecki – Moniek Buchman, szef WUBP Kraków

    248. plk Julia Brystiger – Prajs

    249. plk Górecki – Goldberg, dyr. Depart. IX

    250. plk Mieczyslaw Mietkowski – Mojzesz Borowicki, doradca MSW

    251. plk Orlowski – Kugelschwanz

    252. plk Marian Reniak – Marian Struzynski

    253. plk Józef Rózanski – Josek Goldberg, dyr. dep. MBP

    254. plk Sienkiewicz – Lewi, dyr. depart.

    255. plk Szerynski – Szhnkman, prac. MBP

    256. plk Józef Swiatlo – Izaak Fleischfarb, z-ca dyr. depart. X

    257. pplk Helena Wolinska-Brus – Ochsmann

    258. mjr Adam Kornecki – Dawid Kornhendler, szef WUBP Kielce

    259. Antoni Alster – Nauman, v-ce szef MBP

    260. Barbara Giller – Basze Lea, prac. MBP Duchowni (Religion)

    261. kard. Franciszek Macharski – Finkelstein

    262. ks. prof. Józef Tischner – Blumstein

    263. ks. prof. Romuald Weksler-Waszkinel – Jakub Weksler

    bp Jan Chrapek, bp Bronislaw Dembowski,bp S. Gadecki,bp gen. Slawoj L. Glódz, abp Henryk Muszynski, bp Tadeusz Pieronek, bp Tadeusz Rakoczy, abp Ziólek, abp Józef Zycinski, ks. Adam Bijak, ks. Adam Boniecki, ks. Michal Czajkowski, o.

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    , @geokat62
    , @Cowboy
  392. anarchyst says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The people who were charged and prosecuted at Nuremburg were almost all tortured and gave their confessions and statements under duress. From having their testicles smashed, to being forcefully sleep-deprived, British and American torturers under the direction of the jews were able to get the answers they wanted, but not the TRUTH. Many of the outlandish statements were (and still are) taken as truth, although they are mathematically and physically impossible.

  393. FB says: • Website
    @Germanicus

    …because only morons try to prove a negative.

    That’s a popular misconception bandied about by the ignorant…

    The saying “you can’t prove a negative” isn’t accurate. Proving negatives is a foundational aspect of logic (ex. the law of contradiction)

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  394. Rick Scott is one creepy mfer. He’s gotta be related to the Marshall Applewhite dude from the Heavens Gate cult. More robotic and droid-like than Mitt Romney. Scary stuff.

    Anywho, if they want Merican kids to learn about something they should make a video game about it, or a porno. They don’t pay attention in school.

    Here’s one freaky video of him, theres many more, theres something seriously fishy about this guy, the popo need to check his basement for bodies or tied up people for real, I guarantee you he’s got somebody held hostage down there pokin em with a stick in his free time. I honestly don’t know what makes people vote for such weird dudes, he must have ran against an ebola infected Jeffrey Dahmer I reckon

    Florida’s a strange place.

  395. Yes, Holocaust as new cult, but Globo-Homo seems to have inflamed more hearts these days.

  396. turtle says:

    Rick Scott is one creepy mfer.

    Rick Scott belongs in jail.
    Google Hospital Corporation of America.
    See what you find.
    All things are possible if you own the right politicians.

  397. turtle says:
    @prawda

    vacated by the Germans

    YGBSM
    Vacated?
    Forcibly driven out, is what you mean.
    http://www.revisionist.net/final-solution.html

    More of Senator Homer Capehart’s remarks to the US Senate on February 5, 1946:
    “Since the end of the war about 3,000,000 people, mostly women and children and over-aged men, have been killed in Eastern Germany and south-eastern Europe; about 15,000,000 people have been deported or had to flee their homesteads and are on the road. About 25% of these people, over 3,000,000 have perished. About 4,000,000 men and women have been deported to Eastern Europe as slaves. It seems that the elimination of the German population of Eastern Europe – at least 15,000,000 people – was planned in accordance with decisions made at Yalta. Churchill had said to Mikolakczyk when the latter protested during the negotiations to Moscow against forcing Poland to incorporate eastern Germany; ‘Don’t mind the five or more million Germans. Stalin will see to them. You will have no trouble with them; they will cease to exist.’”

    https://jersplace.wordpress.com/2011/04/05/paul-ryans-homer-capehart-problem/

  398. S says:
    @Theodore

    So-called “Holocaust deniers” claim hundreds of thousands of people died in the concentration camps, based on the actual records.

    Quite so.

    The “Holocaust believers” allege that millions died in the concentration camps..

    I would add to that the wish to retain this belief so as to cynically use it as a powerful hatred driven guilt and shaming weapon to demonize and bludgeon other(s) with, but, more importantly, to use it as a negative means of social control towards their own people via fear and terrorization.

    Guilt has a place, but it is to bring about correction. It’s not to wallow in or to cynically use as a weapon against others.

    Regarding the latter, love towards one’s self and one’s own people is the far healthier (and stronger) social unifier, as opposed to a hatred driven self generated fear and terrorization based society.

    This healthy self love allows a person to act in genuine good will towards others, both individuals and peoples.

    It’s bad (and sad) enough that the described situation exist amongst the Jewish people (something I’d like to think I would say if I was Jewish), but for non-Jewish Euros, and others, to have internalized this, or, willfully perpetuate it with the faux virtue signaling, can only be described as a type of sado-machocism.

  399. @Fran Taubman

    Fillip Mueller is a laughable liar. He describes surviving being gassed by breathing though a keyhole, while all the other Jews around him croaked.

    Aside from the fact that HCN is completely toxic and penetrates through the pores of the skin, Fillip Mueller must have lips like the Rodian from the Star Wars movies.

    You believe the nuttiest BS imaginable. No one would believe such whoppers, unless they were told by a “holocaust survivor”‘

    • Replies: @Jester
  400. @Fran Taubman

    Quote: “Were you there?

    Reply: The laws of physics don’t need anyone to ‘be there.’

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  401. geokat62 says:
    @prawda

    LIST OF NAME CHANGES FOR POLAND’S MOST POWERFUl/INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE IN OUR MODERN ERA.

    Most peculiar! Unbeknownst to most Hellenes, a similar phenomenon occurred in my parents’ homeland of Hellas during WWII:

    A significant percentage of the officers and leaders of ELAS were Jews mainly from Salonika. ELAS relied heavily on the educational backgrounds and linguistic skills of its Jewish fighters, drawn from the urban middle class in what, otherwise, was a peasant army. Most of these Jews adopted Greek or nondescript noms de guerre. Thus, Yitzhak Mosheh was Kapetan Kitsos; Daisy Karasso was Kapetanissa Sarika, Louis Cohen was Khronos, David Aharon was Keravnos, Moshe Segora was Toto, and so forth. Many of these resistance fighters died in battle with the Germans or were killed after being captured. The Germans, for their part, lost more than 2,000 soldiers to Greek partisan attacks and were forced to deploy an entire combat division to deal with the Greek partisans.

    p. 110, How The Jews Defeated Hitler by Benjamin Ginsberg

    Another shocker for me was the identity of the man who “played a key role in the foundation of the Communist Party of Greece in 1918.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avraam_Benaroya

    Meet Avraam Eliezer Benaroya:

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  402. @Hippopotamusdrome

    Yes, the Nazis killed commies and visa versa. I was referring however to the justice and punishment that was meted out mercilessly after WWII (upon Germany) as well as the stigma, reparations, and shame that is still raining down exclusively on Nazis and their descendents today.

    Ex-commies on the other hand suffer no similar opprobrium and face no financial responsibility for their murderous past.

    • Agree: Jacques Sheete
  403. mary says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Exactly, @Robert Dolan, we need to always refer to it at the holocaustTM. The real holocaust was the fire bombing of Dresden by the evil brits.

  404. @Hamlet's Ghost

    I have long thought Freud had to invent psychoanalysis to help himself and his clients cope with the neuroses lives lived without honest self-awareness engendered in them.

  405. Dube says:

    In the administration of public education, consider the actionable mandate for accuracy and proscription against error in instructional materials.

    How this might apply to a case like Dr. Latson’s could be worth consideration by all sides.

    http://www.fldoe.org/core/fileparse.php/5574/urlt/2018-IMS.pdf

    FLORIDA STATUTES
    K-20 EDUCATION CODE

    1006.35 Accuracy of instructional materials.—

    (1) In addition to relying on statements of publishers or manufacturers of instructional materials, the commissioner may conduct or cause to be conducted an independent investigation to determine the accuracy of state-adopted instructional materials.

    (2) When errors in state-adopted materials are confirmed, the publisher of the materials shall provide to each district school board that has purchased the materials the corrections in a format approved by the department.

    (3) The commissioner may remove materials from the list of state-adopted materials if he or she finds that the content is in error and the publisher refuses to correct the error when notified by the department.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  406. @Fran Taubman

    I do think this is not true. There was no railway connection from Hungary to Poland.
    Anyway somewhere I did read that Jews from Hungary were sent to Austria not Poland.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  407. @Saggy

    I’m looking forward to viewing the video but all I get is

    http://www.bitchute.com’s server IP address could not be found.

    Can anyone help?

    • Replies: @Saggy
  408. @S

    I think you underestimate how big a factor is a steadily improving standard of living. America’s richest 10 or 20 per cent have allowed policies to be pursued which have denied that to most Americans for 30 years or more. By contrast Australia, though showing a bit of cantankerousness at even recent very low GDP per capita increases, is still being supported by the growth of China and, if the next 20 years are much like the last 30 it should be able to accommodate a high degree of mixing of immigrant and native populations so long as there is no more foolish welcoming of Africans (professors of physics excepted) or of uneducated Muslims. Smart Indians and Chinese (especially diaspora Chinese) are going to be law abiding taxpayers whose educated English speaking children will do a lot of intermarrying with few families of any race objecting.

  409. Cowboy [AKA "Kartoffelstampfer"] says:
    @prawda

    Great comment. These 2.5 million crypto-jews pretending to be Polish must be the very 2.5 million that J2 claims were “holocaust” victims.

  410. Holocaust denial is intellectually unserious. You might as well try to argue Hitler and the Nazis as a positive good as they unleashed death and destruction on neighboring countries and peoples out of a pagan self worship personified in the Fuhrer’s own murderous megalomania. He didn’t love Jews, he hated them like some reincarnation of Haman who sought their destruction. And not just the big criminals who incidentally were Jewish, but millions of innocents who weren’t the Rothchilds in any way whatsoever.

    Now it is true that today some people who weren’t among the six million Jewish victims of the Nazis, or among the other gentile six million liquidated by them, either, or even alive at the time, use this abysmal episode in human inhumanity to claim immunity for their own current crimes and to claim profitable victimhood by proxy. Or to claim those who challenge their political agenda are Jew haters and Nazis, a phoney but still somewhat useful libel.

    And it’s true, as Nicholson Baker’s Human Smoke reveals, that there were no clean hands among any nations in the events that triggered the path to World War II, including the rise to power of the duplicitous Nazis.

  411. @FB

    What a nonsense.
    So please prove the moon is not made of cheese.

    I will enforce laws that punish anyone who doubts the moon is made of cheese, I will also send tons of fraudulent shills who claim with straight face in tons of fraudulent movies, that they saw how the moon was made of cheese. I will enforce the cheese moon curriculum in schools and unis, compulsory cheese moon lessons.
    Are you a cheese hater and cheese moon denier? 3.5 years prison for you.

    You are indeed a moron, but please prove the negative.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @FB
  412. @Germanicus

    Just a detail but you should know there is no rule of law, certainly in the Common Law world – and I guess in the Civil/Roman Law world too – that automatically requires a conviction to be supported by “forensic” evidence, by which I take you to mean physical evidence rather than just the testimony of witnesses. Unfortunately far too much trust is put in the wisdom of juries who are supposed to have some magical ability to discern the truthfulness of witnesses. As one of the Atheists for [Cardinal] George Pell I am hoping that an Appeal Court is busy writing a judgment which will say that a jury managed to affirm the virtually impossible on the video link evidence of just one young man allegedly abused in the Cathedral vestry 24 years ago (despite, it should be added, his story including the abuse of another boy, now dead, who told his parents it hadn’t happened!).

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  413. I am not sure of the problem here. An administrator simply states, well, sure the the Holocaust is part of some history classes, just know in our society there are are questions pertaining to the same.

    Frankly, what the admin. expressed is protected. And the removal of said principal white or black is in my view overwrought hysterics. And it appears that way without retreading the arguments about the Holocaust as real or imagined.

    I don’t think the US troops were making the matter up. Germany acknowledges the matter. But whatever view one holds should hardly be a litmus test for employment, especially as a principal who is not in the classroom deconstructing the event but isn’t even teaching.

    And it is unfortunate that so many in leadership could not have behaved consistent to the Constitution.

  414. @Wizard of Oz

    There is no jury in jewish star chamber “courts” in occupied Germany. These political show trials are not even public. Its an inquisition.
    If you try as defense attorney to bring evidence forth to defend your client, you will be charged as well for “denial”. That is the outrageous part.

    But I get what you say, yeah, the legal system is utterly corrupt and dysfunctional, see Epstein and tons f other cases swept under the stinking dirty carpet. However, I does not wonder if your country remains an enemy state to UN.

    The statutes of the IMT mafia …

    As a military tribunal, this Tribunal is a continuation of the war effort of the Allied nations. As an International Tribunal, it is not bound by the procedural and substantive refinements of our respective judicial or constitutional systems, nor will its rulings introduce precedents into any country’s internal system of civil justice

    Germany has unconditionally surrendered, but no peace treaty has been signed or agreed upon. The Allies are still technically in a state of war with Germany, although the enemy’s political and military institutions have collapsed.

    Hence there has not been a peace treaty signed yet terminating legally WWI&WWII.
    It is why the US lie of Germany being an ally is just outright ridiculous.

    https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/07-26-46.asp

    Same happened with the Tokio show trials.
    The fox was set to keep the geese.

    Germany and Japan remain enemy states to the UN as defined in UN charter, untouched to this day.

    • Replies: @ANONYMOUS
    , @Parfois1
  415. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Your first sentence is very irresponsible for one writing on a serious subject. Unless you are totally unaware of the conventional Holocaust narrative you must be aware that about 400,000 or 500,000 Jews were supposed to have been transported by train from Budapest to Auschwicz starting in May 1944. Instead of casually blowing offensive hot air you could at least have Googled and read, for example, the article on the Polish Rail Network in Summer 1939. You would have found this:

    “Warsaw was connected with Prague, Bratislava and Žilina. Lwów and Gdynia were also connected with Prague. Budapest had train connections with Warsaw, Cracow and Lwów (the train from Cracow to Budapest had a coach from Krynica to Budapest attached).”

    Auschwicz was/is about 70 kilometers East of Crakow.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
  416. To lighten the mood on such a weighty topic, I present some genocide humour:

    @SaysSimonson

    Replying to @jamie_symc

    white genocide is good
    7:30 AM – 3 Jul 2018

    @SaysSimonson

    Joe Gabriel SimonsonVerified account
    @SaysSimonson

    Covering 2020 Dems @DCExaminer. Find me: @Spectator, @NRO, @AmConMag. Past: @DailyCaller @heatstreet, @NYPost. Tips: [email protected] DM for Signal
    Self-loathing Acela person
    washingtonexaminer.com

  417. @Germanicus

    I see you are determined to provoke someone into calling you a moron with a lot more reason – and excuse for incivility – than you have for your repetitious use, or even one use. You have been completely caught out on your nonsense about it not being possible to prove a negative [try reading the link FB provided if you really need help in understanding that. Perhaps you should just stop posing as an educated person of moderate imtelligence. I see it was you that I noticed blowing hot air about evidence beyond witness testimony being required for criminal convictions. No I won’t be lured into using the m word because “ignoramus” is accurate enough for you.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  418. It strikes me that the practical push-back against this stuff is not nuanced. It is a wholesale flushing of the stool. If we err on the other side of accuracy, so be it. Let us match their emotional and intellectual slovenliness with our own. Let us embrace their motto that power is truth.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  419. ANONYMOUS[341] • Disclaimer says:
    @Germanicus

    What utter total BS from beginning to end.

  420. @geokat62

    Very interesting comment. No wonder we hear so much about the supposed Nazi atrocities against Greeks; the stories always struck me as overblown.

  421. @Fran Macadam

    … Nicholson Baker’s Human Smoke reveals …

    him to be a fairly standard Hitler hater if I remember correctly. I give it 3 of 5 stars.

  422. Rich says:
    @Fran Taubman

    It negates the idea that because some Jews lost many relatives, their suffering was any different than every other ethnicity living in the main area of the war.

    And keep in mind, I can fly to France tomorrow, stand under the Eiffel Tower and say only 25 million Russians died in the war and everyone will shrug their shoulders. If I say 5 million Jews died, I’m subject to arrest. If something actually happened, there would be no reason to make it illegal to research and question. This alone is enough evidence to make one question the government accepted narrative.

    • Agree: OEMIKITLOB
    • Replies: @turtle
    , @Wizard of Oz
  423. @Fran Macadam

    Fran Macadam said: “Holocaust denial is intellectually unserious. You might as well try to argue Hitler and the Nazis as a positive good as they unleashed death and destruction on neighboring countries and peoples out of a pagan self worship personified in the Fuhrer’s own murderous megalomania. He didn’t love Jews, he hated them.”

    Hey Fran Macadam!

    Re; the above screed.

    Brace yourself, for Wally is soon coming up Mississippi River & toting CODAH’s serious “Holocaust Revisionism” guns.

    Adolph Hitler had admiration * for the will of Germany’s powerful Elders of Zion rabbis & upper class Jewish associate aspirations to get a Palestine homeland.
    In response, Hitler’s National Socialist government promulgated the obscured Transfer Agreement. 🤔

    A fair question, Fran Macadam. Could it be that Hitler hated Jews’ crushing economic & cultural impact upon suffering Weimar Republic Germans, and simultaneously, he ended up loving upper class Jews who desired their own homeland?

    Thanks.

    * In Hannah Arendt’s book, “The Banality of Evil,” one can read how Elders of Zion maneuvered practically and helped Germany, at war, round up lesser Jews who were needed for labor in camps.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
    , @anarchyst
  424. Saggy says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz

    http://www.bitchute.com’s server IP address could not be found.

    The link is good …. so I googled server ip address could not be found ….
    https://blog.pcrisk.com/windows/12603-how-to-fix-server-dns-address-could-not-be-found-error

    Is this the problem?

  425. Issar says:
    @anarchyst

    Good summary of the known facts.

  426. Saggy says: • Website

    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent Zionists collaborated with the German government and formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the transfer of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Absolutely nothing about extermination.

    Deniers have a tendency to talk about what did not happen, but not what did. What did happen is that the Nazis kept meticulous records in the camps, at Auschwitz the records included a doctor signed death certificates for each prisoner that died, and monthly summaries now known as ‘death books’.

    The Soviets captured these records and immediately ‘disappeared’ them, so they were unknown to the world until 1989 when they were revealed to the world. You can read about them here …. http://auschwitz.org/en/museum/about-the-available-data/death-records/sterbebucher
    and they are now available….There are three points, 1 – there is extensive documentation of what went on in the camps, 2 – the documentation shows that there was no holocaust, and 3 – the allies hid the documents. The documents captured by the US/British were hidden at Bad Arolsen in Germany and were released to restricted access in Germany in 2013 – https://booksandideas.net/Opening-the-Nazi-archives-at-Bad.html

    So while the holocaust did not happen, discussing what did not happen is only part of the story. The holohoax, i.e. a systematic campaign of lies to convince the world that the holocaust is real, did happen, and it can be documented. The holocaust did not happen, the holohoax did happen and it is ongoing.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
  427. turtle says:
    @Rich

    If something actually happened, there would be no reason to make it illegal to research and question.

    Agree.
    Fiat lux.
    There are no “eternally settled questions,” whether in science or in history.
    The possibility always exists that new data will come to light, and should be incorporated into the body of existing knowledge.
    Whether such new knowledge fundamentally changes previous orthodoxy, or not, is completely irrelevant to the spirit of free inquiry.
    Prohibiting free inquiry, and free discussion, is the path into darkness.
    Always has been, always will be.
    Can you say, “Middle Ages?”
    Dogma is the enemy of truth.

  428. @Wizard of Oz

    I actually enjoy your outrage, drivel and display of fear, tells me, its spot on.

    Could you please point me to a peace treaty between Germany and the allies?

    Do you dispute the enemy state clauses can be found in the present UN charter?

  429. @jack daniels

    Nothing personal but I believe that’s a terrible idea. The power of truth is that it is true. I don’t understand why any self-respecting person that desires, loves and pursues intellectual honesty would want to embrace emotional and intellectual slovenliness. That seems like the “devolving” of man and I believe we see we enough of that from those who love that state of affairs.

    Again, nothing personal.

  430. Wally says: • Website
    @Fran Macadam

    Yawn.
    – The point is that you and those like you are all talk.

    – You assume what has not, cannot be proven. It’s that simple.

    – You and those like you say that millions were murdered in gas chambers that were scientifically impossible.

    – You and those like you claim immense shootings into huge pits and that the alleged human remains from those alleged shootings and gassings exist in know locations, yet no such human remains exist.
    See comment #302 for examples, also see * below.

    You now claim 6M Jews and 6M others (we note how the numbers curiously always change) which of course equals 12,000,000, which is over 1 million more than the population of London.
    Your claim is tantamount to saying that all of London was murdered and the human remains just magically disappeared.

    *aerial of Babi Yar at exact time of the absurdly alleged shooting of 34,000 Jews:

    Nothing happening that would necessarily be happening IF the story was factual.

  431. Wally says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    The ‘Hungarian Jews’ lie demolished here:

    The Deportation of Hungarian Jews from May to July 1944
    by Carlo Mattogno
    https://codoh.com/library/document/357/?lang=en
    Most of them were transferred OUT of Auschwitz, none were gassed, ever.
    and:
    http://juergen-graf.vho.org/articles/hungarian-holocaust-debate.html

    Juergen Graf : The Fate of Unregistered Auschwitz Inmates
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/MaeJJa_0VvE/

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  432. prawda [AKA "prawda a nie klamstwa"] says:

    For some unknown reason the Judeo Bolshevik Zionists have decided to Censor and deleted some Youtube videos posted that I mentioned earlier NAZIS:

  433. Jester says:
    @Genrick Yagoda

    Fillpip DID survive by breathing air through the keyhole. Santa Claus was on the other side blowing fresh air into his mouth !

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  434. Rurik says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Do I note a tone of sarcasm in your commentary or is it for real?

    I would NEVER!! stoop to sarcasm. Sarcasm is a sad device of the intellectually bereft, and only a fool or a scoundrel, (or most likely both!) would ever resort to such banal tactics.

    There were also the gruesome and deadly “medical” experiments Nazis carried out on concentration camp inmates..

    it is well documented that Mengele would use twins for genetic studies so he could tamper with Jew’s DNA and turn them into blue-eyed Aryans. The Nazis were obsessed with everyone having blue eyes.

    Here he sewed two perfectly healthy Jewish girls together in some sick joke to show off his surgical skills.

    Perhaps most bizarre of all, was the Nazi penchant for surgically sewing hands to legs and feet to arms. It has been speculated that this was an attempt to hobble the Jewish designs at global domination by forcing them to function at a disadvantage, since counting money with their toes would hamper them, and give the advantage to Aryans.

    >>><<<

    And the Nips were doing similar in occupied China.

    That stuff actually is true, and horrific.

    >>><<<

    But why are you angry with Palestinians and Iranians? They had nothing to do with this.

    Anti-Semitism is anti-Semitism

    whether you’re a neo-Nazi in Charlottesville chanting ‘the Jews will not replace us”, or a Jihad terrorists in Gaza or Iran, chanting ‘death to the ZUSA!’, it hardly matters.

    Anti-Semitism is still, anti-Semitism. Nazi, Palestinian, American white supremacist, Iranian, Iraqi, Russians like Putin- are the exact same thing.

    They’re all motivated by an irrational hatred of Jews.

    That’s the tie that binds, and that’s why you have Jidadis making common cause with the Alt-right Nazi wannabes in America’s backwaters and racist swamps in the South. Towel-heads and goose-stepping rednecks, what unlikely bedfellows, but there it is.

  435. Jester says:
    @Rurik

    Please answer the following questions:
    1. How much soap one can get from a 90 pound Joo ??
    2. How many resources have to be put into the process to get one cake ?
    3. If they were all burnt up how is the making of the soap possible
    4. If these Germans were hard core dudes why would they wash with a bar of Joo soap

    • Replies: @Larchmonter420
    , @Jester
  436. @Wizard of Oz

    Here is how you go to Poland today.
    From Budapest you take a train to Bratislava.
    From Bratislava you go to Brno.
    From Brno you go to Ostrava.
    From Ostrava you go Krakow.
    If you want to from Prague to Poland you still have to go through Brno and Ostrava..
    The other way to go to Poland from Prague is through Germany proper.
    There is no connection from Zhilina to Poland, only to Koshice and Bratislava.

    You take your information from Wikipedia
    I did travel all those roads.
    It is you who does not have a clue.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  437. @turtle

    I understand. I was merely playing devil’s advocate to show that without “fleshing-out” an arguments propositions non-sequiturs won’t cut it as “facts” except as a figment of someone’s fertile imagination and no honest person is obligated to accept that.

  438. Rurik says:

    Well ‘Jester’,

    1. How much soap one can get from a 90 pound Joo ??

    So you actually believe this is a subject for mockery?!

    People were turned into soap, sir!

    The evidence is undeniable. It has even been mentioned in movies and TV! It was in newspapers! There were eyewitnesses!!!

    What kind of twisted mind could possibly find anything ‘humorous’ about Jews being processed into bars of soap? (and lampshades and shrunken heads!)

    So for God’s sake, please do take care to never again to diminish or demean the memory of the soap.

    • Replies: @jester
    , @Anonymous
  439. @Jester

    Please answer the following questions:
    1. How much soap one can get from a 90 pound Joo ??
    2. How many resources have to be put into the process to get one cake ?
    3. If they were all burnt up how is the making of the soap possible
    4. If these Germans were hard core dudes why would they wash with a bar of Joo soap

    Answers:
    1. Only one cake!
    2. Many, many resources!
    3. It is a miracle!
    4. Deep, deep inside they were Joo lovers!

    • LOL: ChuckOrloski
  440. @Rurik

    As far as being an anti-Semite I don’t see it’s any worse than being anti-whoever, and everyone is anti somebody. The Jews are generally anti-goy and extremely anti-Arab, so it’s only to be expected that those they hate should hate them in turn.

    And it gets more complicated when you see that many of the anti-Semitic crimes are perpetrated by the Jews themselves, like that kid from Israel impersonating an anti-Semite and threatening Jewish institutions in the US. Or when Israelis themselves cooperate with ISIS jihadis. Or the Jews backing the neo-Nazis in Ukraine.

    I agree if the Jews stopped hating on others and stopped meddling in everything from the media, through academia, judiciary, politics, banking, to foreign policy in countries where they are just a tiny minority, then I could condemn anti-Semitism. Until then no way.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @OEMIKITLOB
  441. @Jester

    Prove that it was Santa and not the tooth fairy.

    I just wonder why occupied Germany paid more than 6 million “survivors” by now “reparations”? That’s an awful lot of “survivors” of an alleged industrial scale extermination campaign.

    Some official figures:

    (Jewish world Almanac)

    Jewish world population 1933: 15,315,859
    Jewish world population 1938: 15,748,091
    Jewish world population 1948: 15,753,638

    Jew population increase 1938-1948: 5547

    Jewish population in Germany 1938: 210,000

    [MORE]

  442. anarchyst says:
    @Commentator Mike

    European jews are NOT “semites”. It is laughable to observe European jews calling out those who disagree with their racist policies as “anti-semitic”, especially when they themselves are not “semites”…

  443. @ChuckOrloski

    Selah, regarding the non-tenured’s teaching of Holocaust & 9//11 history in the ZUS, “discretion is the better part of valor.”

    God bless America and God bless Freedom Fries too!

  444. MarkinLA says:

    A currently circulating WJC petition in Congress expresses concern over the rise in anti-Semitism,

    Jews really are tone deaf. They don’t see the connection between demanding that everybody put them at the top of the victims list, their continual demands for “reparations” by even those having nothing to do with the holocaust, and their attempts to destroy free speech rights resulting in people getting sick of them and the subsequent “rise in antisemitism”.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  445. @Wally

    “…With their historical and technical arguments, the revisionists have demolished the “Holocaust” extermination and gas chamber legends. But their task is far from complete. Thus far, they have only partly succeeded in demonstrating what really did happen to Europe’s Jews during the Second World War…”

    “…Decisive progress in the investigation of the fate of Europe’s Jews during the Second World War, including reliable estimates of Jewish wartime losses, can be expected only after historians gain access to previously unknown documents from archives in eastern Europe and the former USSR. When I say “historians” I naturally mean the revisionists, because our opponents will not tackle this task…”

    Source : Jürgen Graf : Insights on the 1944 Deportations of Hungarian Jews. Conclusions. Journal of Historical Review. Vol 21 (2002), No 1.

    And that I am saying all the time. If the transported Jews were not exterminated, then what happened to them, especially those unable to work ? If they were billeted in labor camps (together with the members of their family unable to work), then where were those camps, where is the paper work that testifies to their transport and settlement? What happened to them after those labor camps were liberated? Where are the testimonies of those 400,000 Hungarian Jews who survived those labor camps supposedly due to humane treatment?

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    , @Wally
    , @Wally
    , @Wally
  446. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    You really are preposterous. What are you trying to do on occasionally intelligent constructive comment threads? The rail connections today are *entirely* irrelevant.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  447. @Commentator Mike

    I don’t hate Jewish people, or anyone else for that matter, but I do hate some of the things they do. Especially when it comes to honesty and being called an anti-Semite and/or a racist when the claim is far from true.

    I believe there should be one set of rules for everybody, not one set for me and one set for others, whomever they may be. I believe anyone who wants different sets of rules for different groups are the real racists.

    I leave the reader to determine who they are.

  448. A note to Ron Unz re: Wally

    Ron Unz mentioned he was developing an algorithm to curtail Jeff Stryker’s anecdotal comments as apparently they don’t contribute much to the intellectual debate on this site. What about this Wally character? He just re-posts the same links and photos over and over again and hardly engages in any meaningful debate other than hurling insults at those who disagree with him. He’s using so much space with nothing new to add every time he posts something. Now surely Ron Unz could easily develop an algorithm that would identify any repeated links to the same websites or same photos by the same commenter and prevent him from posting. Or like three times same same and you’re out. Eh?

    I’m actually not bothered if Ron Unz doesn’t take any action, but I’m only bringing this up because of his intention to deal with Jeff Styker, who admittedly is a little repetitive, often repeating the same anecdotes, but Wally is even more repetitive and hardly engages in debate and discussion in a civilised manner, unlike Jeff who tends to be more courteous. Admittedly Jeff sometimes uses racial slurs but only in generalisations when referring to third persons and not directly to another commenter.

    So now it seems I’m asking for censorship of a Holocaust denier. Uh? So much for my advocacy of free speech, eh? I hope it doesn’t seem that way. I’m just comparing Wally’s and Stryker’s comments in view of Ron Unz’s intent to impose restrictions on Jeff. I’d then recommend either both or neither, but Jeff only wouldn’t be fair.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
    • Troll: L.K
  449. @Germanicus

    What are you on about? Where have I referred to peace treaties? But, BTW, what do you make of the Versailles Treaty and also
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Final_Settlement_with_Respect_to_Germany?wprov=sfla1 ?

    On second thoughts, don’t bother.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  450. @MarkinLA

    I’m not so sure it’s due to tone-deafness; I believe it’s part of the racist plan.

  451. @Rich

    You make such definite statements about Europe’s, or at least France’s anti free speech laws on the Holocaust that I wish to treat you as an authority who will substantiate claims such as yours that saying 5 million Jews died would make you subject to arrest – and conviction for somevcriminal offence. And, in particular, can you substantiate your claim that it is – in France or wherever – illegal to research the question of how many died.

    Your claims seem outrageous when I consider that one of Australia’s best And best respected radio presenters/interviewers referred to 4.5 to 6 million recently without even a token protest from those she was interviewing or any Jewish organisatiin.

  452. Ahoy says:

    Hi brother Chuck, yesirreebob “Kyrie Eleison”, and HE better come forth soon because it seems we are pushed into a corner.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  453. @Commentator Mike

    Thanks. I hope I can find it when next someone produces such non evidence as Wally’s photograph.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  454. @anarchyst

    I think I even quoted something you said once with approval or acceptance. Please don’t descend to the semi literate silliness of denying that “antisemitic” has long had a perfectly well established usage meaning anti-Jewish.

  455. @Wizard of Oz

    Wikipedia, seriously?

    Versailles was no peace treaty.

    “Final settlement” was no peace treaty, the “Federal Republic of Germany” is a private usurping criminal entity of the German nation state, registered in Washington DC as a business. Its “Basic Law” states that it is an “unified economic area” (GG 133).

    The German nation state that has been unorganized since the occupation of Germany and the execution of the last lawful German government. The Federal Republic of Germany is not the German nation state, but only a part of it, which is foreign administered and occupied.

    The impostors in Berlin are legally not allowed to enter any peace negotiations, see Protocol of “2+4”, which explicitly forbids any peace regulation.

  456. I’m agnostic about many details concerning “the holocaust”. But I’ll say this. I’m sympathetic to holocaust revisionism. As one who wishes harm on no one, I think revisionism, if true, is good news for everyone, including Jews. Also, people need to get it through their thick heads that revisionism does not equal denial.

    It’s kind of similar to how I look at the Sandy Hook tragedy. Now, I definitely believe that there was a massacre at that elementary school. But I would love for it to have been a big hoax and that in reality, all those people are alive today.

    Before anyone jumps down my throat, let me say that I’m not equating genuine, legitimate “holocaust” revisionism with the Sandy Hook hoaxism.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  457. SteveH says:
    @Rurik

    How did they manage to shrink the teeth on the “shrunken head”?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  458. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:

    Wally is completely brain dead. He produces stuff and thinks that his shit is true and everyone else is false. I mean a two year old can see thru is fake stuff.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  459. MarkinLA says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I don’t care one way or the other but you do realize that article was also devoid of any real proof. It made all sorts of assertions about what happened there before during and after the supposed photo that generates the controversy.

    There are no photos of the area before the 1961 landslide or anything that actually shows the supposed digging up of the bodies. There were speculations of Soviets covering things up but the proof was another article which probably is also full of apeculation and no proof.

    Isn’t that really the issue with the holocaust, that it is a long string of unsubstantiated assertions by both sides.

  460. @Commentator Mike

    Yes, I think Ron is being what the fashionably cod-Freudian jargonistas of yester year would have called “anal” (Feel free to prefer the write ups by Ernest Jones or Karl Abraham if you feel uneasy with the original old charlatan). If Jeff Stryker in amicably garrulous mode is too much to take there is already the Commenter to Ignore button though perhaps it can’t protect our host and editor in chief.

  461. Mulegino1 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    The claims about Babi Yar are prima facie absurd. There is no evidence whatsoever that thousands or over thirty thousand people were executed by the German forces in Kiev. None. Zero. A poem written in the 1960’s and laughable Soviet propaganda do not constitute physical evidence of anything.

    Aside from the fact that the Germans did not have the time or inclination for such a massive killing operation, it would have been a logistical impossibility merely to carry out the executions, much less destroy the human remains. The idea that these massive outdoor cremations (on tombstones yet) is utterly risible. There never was any physical evidence of such mass executions at Babi Yar ravine. The whole thing is a Soviet propaganda hoax. The “debunkers” cannot come up with any physical evidence to support their claim.

    The burden of proof is not upon those denying a ridiculous and unsustainable legend, but upon those claiming that it really happened. So show us the remains, or traces of remains of the upwards of thirty thousand victims. The “debunkers” of those who question ridiculous official narratives are put into play for a purpose, i.e., to provide fiduciary support to the “right thinking” proles whose suspicions are aroused by manifestly absurd claims which defy common sense, but who are unable to accept the fact that the powers that be that control the official narrative would lie to them. Just another articulation of the “big lie” employed so successfully by the ancestral enemies of truth.

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  462. Mulegino1 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    So now it seems I’m asking for censorship of a Holocaust denier. Uh? So much for my advocacy of free speech, eh? I hope it doesn’t seem that way. I’m just comparing Wally’s and Stryker’s comments in view of Ron Unz’s intent to impose restrictions on Jeff. I’d then recommend either both or neither, but Jeff only wouldn’t be fair.

    Translation: “I want to censor Wally, because his exposure of the Holohoax is so effective. ”

    You see, the so called “deniers” work with facts, figures, logistics, authentic documents, and logic. From an epistemological perspective, the “deniers” have the believers beat in a rout. Therefore, the more militant believers resort to the censorious champions of the quite frankly absurd and impossible official narrative resort to silencing the “deniers” or what I would prefer to term those who deal with empirical and discreet facts.

  463. Corvinus says:

    The fact of the matter is that the Holocaust happened.

  464. Mulegino1 says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    The irony of the situation is not the argument about numbers or statistics, but the fact that France, the the so called revolutionary champion of “liberte” of expression should have such draconian laws regarding an event so rooted in pseudo-religious verbosity and utter nonsense. If anything, one would expect that the birthplace of “Le Grande Revolution” as well as “Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite” would welcome a challenge to such a lame sacred cow. This is not the case. “Liberte” extends only to those “Freres” who walk the fine line that pleases those small hatted “Freres” who have more “Egalite and Liberte” than the others. In other words, pure Gallic bullshit.

  465. @Pinche Perro

    Also, people need to get it through their thick heads that revisionism does not equal denial.

    I would think, the word revisionism has been weaponized.
    Revision is what drives invention, progress and basically human learning.

    Software development is impossible without revision, revision amounts to fixing mistakes or errors.
    A child does revision every day, all technical fields and research do revision constantly.
    Revision is somehow deemed evil if applied to history, but why? revision is something totally normal in human societies. No revision, no refinement of something.

    You can only deny something that actually took place or exists. “Denial” in the context of “holocaust” is also a weaponized word. Once could use denial, if the “holocaust” had been proven with physical evidence by the claiming side.

  466. FB says: • Website
    @Germanicus

    And you have just proved how lacking in education you are…

    A principle of folk logic is that one can’t prove a negative….

    But there is one big, fat problem with all this. Among professional logicians, guess how many think that you can’t prove a negative? That’s right: zero. Yes, Virginia, you can prove a negative, and it’s easy, too. For one thing, a real, actual law of logic is a negative, namely the law of non-contradiction.

    Please do not waste my time and instead read up on the subject…ignoramus…

    —THINKING TOOLS: YOU CAN PROVE A NEGATIVE

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  467. @FB

    Are you actually trying to say in a talmudic pilpul manner, that “innocent until proven guilty” is irrelevant to you? Good to know, but hardly a surprise. That’s what your idiotic gibberish actually says.
    You Jews postulate some nonsense, and you ask non Jews to disprove the nonsense, instead of you proving your nonsense to be true.

    Prove that the tooth fairy does not exist. I will make a law that punishes tooth fairy denial.

    • Replies: @FB
  468. @Ahoy

    Ahoy said: “Hi brother Chuck, yesirreebob “Kyrie Eleison”, and HE better come forth soon because it seems we are pushed into a corner.”

    My Brother Ahoy!

    Respectfully & in The Christ, it is them who are pushing themselves off a Gaderene cliff.

    Linked below, is the beautiful Hymn of Kassiabi The Nun which is sung each Holy Week during solenn services. Thanks & my respect. (Note, I most prefer this when it’s sung by a woman, along with a man intoning in the background)

  469. FB says: • Website
    @Germanicus

    Look idiot…I’m not Jewish…I was born into a very old protestant family…I have nothing to do with Judaism…but to dunces like yourself, anyone who refuses to hate all Jews must also be a Jew…

    As for proving a negative…that is part of the subject of formal logic…of which you obviously know nothing…have fun spreading your uneducated manure here on this thread…as you are wont to do…but simply realize that your ignorance of logic has been exposed and documented…

  470. @ChuckOrloski

    * In Hannah Arendt’s book, “The Banality of Evil,” one can read how Elders of Zion maneuvered practically and helped Germany, at war, round up lesser Jews who were needed for labor in camps.

    CO, I love it. Superb.

  471. @Germanicus

    Now you know why I ignore that one. Hopeless case.

  472. Robjil says:
    @Corvinus

    The fact of the matter is that the Seven Nations to Destroy Holocaust is happening now.
    What nation supports this more than any other? Israel. One would think if the Big 6 happened really happened to a people, then they would have empathy for the suffering of others. This is the root cause for all the skepticism.

    The Big 6 is never used for peace and empathy for humanity. It has been endlessly used in the past 7o or so years to shame, jail dissenters, belittle people, people losing their jobs, banning books, shutting down speech, an umbrella for big Jews to do bad things with no outcry, an umbrella to hide every bad thing that Jewish culture done in its history, etc. Its main use is an umbrella to hide criminal activities of Jewish criminals. Take the umbrella down. Like Reagan said Take the wall down.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  473. @Commentator Mike

    Oh, cut it out. And try countering Wally’s points with valid points of your own instead of calling upon “daddy” to come to your rescue. If everyone who annoys us were “canned,” there would be no comment thread at all. At least Wally offers substance with regard to refuting “the”
    holocaust.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  474. @FB

    There is no logic trying to disprove something that did not happen or does not exist.
    If you claim the “holocaust” happened, you got to prove it with physical evidence. It is not my task to disprove your postulate/theory (absurd postulate in this case), because I know its nonsense.

    I am awaiting you attempt to disprove the tooth fairy.

    There are tons of witnesses who testify that they saw the tooth fairy. There are even movies with the tooth fairy.
    As a matter of fact, the tooth fairy exists, and if you doubt that, I will put you in prison.

  475. @Fran Taubman

    Wally is completely brain dead. He produces stuff and thinks that his shit is true and everyone else is false. I mean a two year old can see thru is fake stuff.

    “Jealousy is the tribute mediocrity pays to genius.”

    -Archbishop Sheen

    I doubt you’ll get the point, but there it is, anyway. 🙂

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  476. @FB

    I was born into a very old protestant family…

    Well, maybe you “converted.” In any case, no matter what you were born into or degenerated into, you certainly don’t express yourself as a Christian would, or should. Your obvious frustration with Germanicus’ points is pretty hilarious, though!

    • Replies: @Germanicus
    , @FB
  477. @Wizard of Oz

    I do totally and absolutely agree with you. Facts are irrelevant in intelligent discussions.
    Particularly facts that prove certain impossibilities of conclusions of intelligent discussion.
    I do get it implicitly now. Moving half a millions of Jews from Hungary to Treblinka= no problem.
    ……………………………………………………………………
    BTW Zhukov was already in half way in Hungary when Archers deposed Horthy and his Jewish wife
    and started to collect half a million Jews.
    But no problem there was enough time to do it and there was no problem with transportation.
    I got it.

  478. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Daniel Rich

    No the laws of physical molecules taking up physical space as witness are the first rule of physics. I was there and I saw, therefore it happened.
    I mean are you serious. Someone saying that Babi Yarr never took place.
    Here is a non Jewish truck driver, called a witness. There was a placement in the paper telling Jews to meet at a spot. There are survivors.
    What law of physics to you go by your imagination.
    According to the testimony of a truck driver named Hofer, victims were ordered to undress and were beaten if they resisted:

    I watched what happened when the Jews—men, women and children—arrived. The Ukrainians[b] led them past a number of different places where one after the other they had to give up their luggage, then their coats, shoes and over-garments and also underwear. They also had to leave their valuables in a designated place. There was a special pile for each article of clothing. It all happened very quickly and anyone who hesitated was kicked or pushed by the Ukrainians [sic][b] to keep them moving.

    — Michael Berenbaum: “Statement of Truck-Driver Hofer describing the murder of Jews at Babi Yar”[25]

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
    , @Wally
  479. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    Yeah when I think of profound I think of you Mr. Mien Kampf himself. Need a little brush up reading. What a lonely life you must lead. “Oh got to go read my Mien Kampf so I am relevant again”.
    What an intellectual powerhouse.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  480. Fran Taubman [AKA "Linda"] says:
    @Mulegino1

    All Yids[a] of the city of Kiev and its vicinity must appear on Monday, September 29, by 8 o’clock in the morning at the corner of Mel’nikova and Dokterivskaya streets (near the Viis’kove cemetery). Bring documents, money and valuables, and also warm clothing, linen, etc. Any Yids[a] who do not follow this order and are found elsewhere will be shot. Any civilians who enter the dwellings left by Yids[a] and appropriate the things in them will be shot.
    — Order posted in Kiev in Russian, Ukrainian, and German on or around 26 September 1941.[15]

    I watched what happened when the Jews—men, women and children—arrived. The Ukrainians[b] led them past a number of different places where one after the other they had to give up their luggage, then their coats, shoes and over-garments and also underwear. They also had to leave their valuables in a designated place. There was a special pile for each article of clothing. It all happened very quickly and anyone who hesitated was kicked or pushed by the Ukrainians [sic][b] to keep them moving.
    — Michael Berenbaum: “Statement of Truck-Driver Hofer describing the murder of Jews at Babi Yar”[25]

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @Wally
    , @annamaria
  481. @Jacques Sheete

    It is just so sad, one has to lower the intellectual level so much, and one has to break it down to such absurd counter example as the tooth fairy so their childish mind gets it.

    Why would Wally constantly write all the stuff anew? There is absolutely nothing he hasn’t heard by the claiming side, and gave a proper factual rebuttal. Its fine he just posts links.
    He has been there done that, so did I and many others.

  482. Ahoy says:

    @ ChuckOrloski

    Chuck said “Respectfully and in The Christ, it is them who are pushing themselves off a Gaderene cliff”. My sincere thanks for the clarification.

    You touched a sensitive chord with tha Hymn of Kassiani.

    Stay strong brother Chuck, you are a true soldier of Christ.

  483. FB says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    Well here we go again…a good and necessary article by Mr Giraldi sets off the moon howlers here that want to pretend that one of the most barbaric [and most thoroughly documented] genocides in the history of humanity never actually happened…

    Let’s start with the story of the unfortunate school principal…Dr Latson…first off, I sympathize with the man because I’m sure he meant no harm…he was perhaps somewhat irritated at the school board pushing ever more Holocaust ‘education’ down his school’s throat…add in an annoying parent that thinks a principal in charge of hundreds of students has nothing better to do than be bombarded with emails…

    That said…his written reply about ‘believing’ in the Holocaust was incredibly dumb…any public figure…god forbid an educator…that questions the sacred dogma of the Holocaust narrative is simply toast in the USA of 2019…

    Now as for Norman Finkelstein…he is a thorough and careful academic who has done an important service…the thorough exposure of the exploitation of the Jewish genocide…now before we go further we must note that Finkelstein is NOT denying the genocide took place…he is in fact a child of parents that each lost all of their respective family in the genocide…

    What he is saying is that the subject should be open to serious academic inquiry…not treated like a holy totem…the other part of the Holocaust ‘industry’ is its misuse for the justification of the criminal acts of Israel…which are possible only due to fanatical US support…

    In this respect Mr Giraldi’s writing is very much needed…the US has become a totalitarian society with the unscrupulous exploitation of the Jewish genocide…and the unconstitutional actions that have followed…

    Of course, this doesn’t mean there was no genocide…there most certainly was…and it was in fact the most depraved occurrence of human barbarity, perhaps unmatched in history…all of this was discovered firsthand by liberating Russian and Allied troops…to now 80 years after the fact sit here and fart nonsense that has zero basis in any historical fact…is in fact quite pathetic…

    Also pathetic is that these losers worship one homosexual nutbar named Adolf Hitler…who proved what a loser he was by choosing to blow his silly brains out…instead of leading his troops to an honorable surrender as von Paulus did at Stalingrad…

    I have often made the point that Hitler was a curse for Germany…a worse leader would not have been possible…it was as if he was planted to lead Germany to destruction…

    Greg Hallet’s 2006 book Hitler Was a British Agent documents the fact that Hitler spent a year in Britain [1912-13]…which is documented in his sister-in-law’s biography…Gallery says that year in Britain was spent getting indoctrinated at the British psy-ops war school at Tavistock…

    Hallett’s theory explains why Hitler, supposedly the arch enemy of Jewish bankers, acted like he didn’t know the Rothschilds controlled
    England and America, when this was common knowledge.

    If Hitler had been for real, he would have plucked out the Rothschild’s heart, the City of London before taking on Russia.

    Eminently logical…as filled in here by Henry Makow…

    But back to the Jewish genocide…it’s abundantly clear that the Nazi leadership were clinical psychopaths…psychiatry tells us that about three to five percent of the general population are sociopaths…so there was plenty of ‘material’ to choose from to fill the ranks of the Schutzstaffel…

    Here is Rheinhard Heydrich…does he look normal to you…?

    What about ‘deputy fuhrer Rudolf Hess…?

    The fact is these dirtbags murdered millions of children, women, old folks and everyone in between…many of them Jewish but millions more Russian, Czech and Polish…among others…

    Europe was a civilized land in those days…arguably much more so than today…to even think of rounding up hundreds of thousands of citizens…including children…putting them on trains…often packed into cattle cars…and shipping them off to Poland and other sites is simply inexcusable in any kind of way that is comprehensible to a normal human…

    These monsters of history were thankfully destroyed…and part of the value of keeping the memory of the Jewish genocide alive is to keep humanity from ever going down that road again…

    Does that mean that everything about the Holocaust narrative is exactly true…no it does not…for instance Elie Wiesel was an obvious fraud…it is disheartening that his ‘books’ are forced down our children’s throats…

    But it doesn’t change the monstrous nature of the Nazis and their barbarism…

  484. @Anonymous

    Don’t those same adjectives describe American blacks as well?

  485. @FB

    Well here we go again…a good and necessary article by Mr Giraldi sets off the moon howlers here that want to pretend that one of the most barbaric [and most thoroughly documented] genocides in the history of humanity never actually happened…

    You are a liar.
    Raul Hilberg conceded under oath in Toronto that there is no documentation whatsoever that proves an extermination policy. He was by his own words, documented by the court, “at a miss” providing documentation. I know, very inconvenient and embarrassing for you guys.
    Hilberg is your primary “expert”, THE “authority” on “holocaust”.

    What about your logic trying to disprove the tooth fairy?

    • LOL: FB
  486. Zumbuddi says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    What happened to Europe’s Jews?

    Easy.

    They WERE turned into soap.

    Ivory Soap
    99 44/100% Pure.
    It Floats!

    6 million Jews just floated away.

    But seriously Folks —
    Perhaps to recover those Jews who are lost in space, a Resolution in US Congress would unite US & Israel in weaponization of Space and cyber.

    TruNews / Rick Wiles explored the story yesterday, Jul 17 2019.

    Check his website.

    This is a truly frightening development.

  487. anarchyst says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    It was zionist leaders who proposed that jews be required to wear the yellow “star of david”. This was a part of the process to make life “uncomfortable” for German jews…and to encourage emigration to what was then known as Palestine…

  488. @Fran Macadam

    I take it you were just bored.

    Laugh

  489. Corvinus says:
    @Robjil

    “The fact of the matter is that the Seven Nations to Destroy Holocaust is happening now.”

    Do you enjoy your red herring with Grey Poupon?

    Again, the Holocaust occurred. Hate fact, but a fact nonetheless.

    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @Poco
  490. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Good ‘ol post-modernism creeping into our discussion. There is such a thing as truth as is there the opposite called a lie. Denigrating many fine authors on their Shoah works is certainly not the answer to the eternal question.

  491. Robjil says:
    @Corvinus

    The “Never Again Listen to Jewish Zionist Advisors Act” needs to be passed to prevent any such things you say happened or is happening.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  492. Rurik says:
    @SteveH

    How did they manage to shrink the teeth on the “shrunken head”?

    the Nazis were notoriously diabolically clever.

    with all those extracted teeth, they probably just used smaller ones, but I really have no idea how the Nazis accomplished so many of their nefarious tricks.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  493. @Fran Taubman

    they just used open pits outside, and the ashes flew away

    My mother was professionally cremated and the residual clinker triturated to approximately the fineness of concrete sand by a specialist machine. Weighed 7lb. (she was 5’4″). Don’t worry, she was definitely dead at the time.

    We took the tub to her favourite mountain from her climbing days and wrecked the delicate acid upland habitat by chucking the stuff all over.
    Plenty windy up there, and I can assure you the lime-grit just does not “fly away”. It behaves like, well, grit, and falls right back down even if you lob handfuls as far up as you can, even in a stiff breeze.

    If the nazis had any sense they would have milled the stuff into mortar-grade lime powder and slaked it. Hide the 6 trillion by making the Normandy beach defences or something like that out of them. After all, they were short of most things, and cement-roasting uses a good deal of fuel.

  494. @FB

    Yes there was genocide of Jews. But Jews presentation as well as your presentation is that it was intentional committed by psychopaths is false. The genocide was unintentional and was forced on by circumstances caused by Allies and war,
    I will prove it to you.
    I do have a factual book totally dedicated to history of concentration camps, but I still cannot find it.

  495. @FB

    So if “the holocaust” is thoroughly documented, why do all the documents show that it never happened?

    All of the German camp documents were stored at Bad Aralson since the end of the war. The Red Cross/ITS was the agency charged with controlling these records at Bad Aralson.

    In 1985, 40 years after the war, Dr Charles Beiderman was the head of the Red Cross/ITS, Beiderman was called to testify at the Zundel trial for the prosecution. Beiderman testified that QUOTE as of December 31, 1983, the total number of deaths registered with the Special Registry Office and various other registry offices was 373,468. END QUOTE

    So where are these fantasy documents you claim exist? And why couldn’t your side produce them at the Zundel trial, or the Irving v Lipstadt trial?

    • Replies: @FB
  496. @Rurik

    the Nazis were notoriously diabolically clever.

    Why don’t you disclose the ultra secret shrinking ray gun?
    The evil Brainiac, Superman’s arch enemy gave it to the Germans.

  497. @Jacques Sheete

    OK, Jaques,

    Here’s a brand new science paper, hot off the presses so to speak, for you and Wally to ponder. I haven’t read it yet in detail but it must have passed peer review by referees and all that. The paper even presents time series data of the kills. RU may want to look at this paper too as he’s got this high regard for high quality academic works . The references at the bottom of the paper may also be useful to those interested in the research, as well as those mentioned in the right hand side bar.

    Quantifying the Holocaust: Hyperintense kill rates during the Nazi genocide, Lewi Stone, Sci Adv. 2019 Jan; 5(1)

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6314819/

  498. @FB

    Greg Hallet’s 2006 book Hitler Was a British Agent documents the fact that Hitler spent a year in Britain [1912-13]…which is documented in his sister-in-law’s biography…Gallery says that year in Britain was spent getting indoctrinated at the British psy-ops war school at Tavistock…

    Hitler didn’t have a sister-in-law, since he didn’t have a brother. He also was never in Britain, no matter what some fake book says, and that can be documented!

    Hallett’s theory explains why Hitler, supposedly the arch enemy of Jewish bankers, acted like he didn’t know the Rothschilds controlled England and America, when this was common knowledge.

    Is this a cover blurb on the book? If so, the publisher admits it’s a theory in order to avoid being sued for false advertising.
    Oh, it’s Henry Makow. He’s protecting himself and admits it’s a “theory,” not a fact.

    • Replies: @FB
  499. @Commentator Mike

    This looks like the “man made global warming” diagrams from NASA, just adapted to “holocaust”.

    The entire “peer review” is corrupt, its incestuous, not only with historic topics.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  500. FB says: • Website
    @Genrick Yagoda

    Look…Zundel was convicted and sent to jail…so those particular minutiae that you mention probably amount to the square root of fuck all…

    Zundel was also a UFOlogist and published extensively on that subject…

    Like I said the liberating Russian and Allied troops DOCUMENTED extremely thoroughly what they found in the death camps…

    Please do not waste my time with nonsense…

  501. Rich says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Yes, it’s freaking insane. They actually forbid free speech and intellectual inquiry, while even the disarmed Australians still, at least, allow that. I agree that it’s crazy. If you have any questions, you’re a big boy, Google it.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  502. FB says: • Website
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Bridget Elizabeth Hitler, née Dowling…

    …was Adolf Hitler’s sister-in-law via her marriage to Alois Hitler Jr. She was the mother of Alois Hitler’s son William Patrick Hitler. She was born and raised in Dublin, Ireland.

    Alois Hitler Jr. (né Matzelsberger) (1882–1956), elder half-brother

    —Hitler Family Members…

  503. @FB

    Like I said the liberating Russian and Allied troops DOCUMENTED extremely thoroughly what they found in the death camps…

    You mean like Alfred Hitchcock, who did some filming of dead Germans being bulldozed in a mass grave?
    You are nuts man, the occupying forces, terrorist forces, were free to do whatever they wanted in a disarmed Germany. They killed more Germans “after” the war than Germany lost during the entire war, 12 million starved to death from 1945-1948.
    Liar Hitchcock was actively involved in fakery with Eisenhower’s death camps at the Rhine meadows, he filmed dead civilians and dead German pow and claimed it had been Jews.

    @Wally

    Do you recall the name of the US pathologist, the only one in Europe, who inspected the alleged death camps? He concluded that no gassings took place. Was it Larsson, Lawson or so?

  504. Robjil says:

    This “study” is so bogus. It mentions gas chambers as being used. Gas chambers are an impossibility. Weak wood doors on the shower rooms do not hold in gas.

    It has no real data. It says that German trains were so efficient and running so good. How can German trains be running so wonderfully when the US and Britain were bombing all of Central Europe? Great, fast trains of the National Socialists is the only data in this whole “study”.

    A good counter to this “great” smooth train system. Why could not the 14 million Germans who were forced to flee their homelands in Eastern Germany, Czechoslovakia, Romania, and Hungary after the war use these wonderful smooth riding trains.

    http://tapnewswire.com/2017/01/the-expulsion-of-the-germans-the-largest-forced-migration-in-history/

    “Forced marches in which inhabitants of entire villages were cleared at fifteen minutes’ notice and driven at rifle-point to the nearest border, accounted for many losses. So did train transports that sometimes took weeks to reach their destination, with up to 80 expellees crammed into each cattle car without adequate (or, occasionally, any) food, water or heating.

    The deaths continued on arrival in Germany itself. Declared ineligible by the Allied authorities to receive any form of international relief and lacking accommodation in a country devastated by bombing, expellees in many cases spent their first months or years living rough in fields, goods wagons or railway platforms.”

    This does not stand up to the great train system that this “study” touts. The Allies were bombing all over Central Europe. The train system could not have been as good as imagined in this “study”.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  505. FB says: • Website
    @Jacques Sheete

    Your obvious frustration with Germanicus’ points is pretty hilarious, though!

    Yes…I see your point…

  506. Rurik says:

    disclose the ultra secret shrinking ray gun?

    are you trying be flippant in a discussion about the Holy Holocaust?!

    This is an OUTRAGE!!!

    We’re talking about the most evil crime ever committed against god himself!

    This is not simply saying Jehovah out of turn,

    This was nothing less than an attempt on the life of god himself!

    Are not the Jews the chosen people of god?!

    Are not the Jews a divine race among filthy mortals– put here by god to serve the Jews?!

    And yet how do these goyim ingrates show their willingness to serve as slaves to the Jews?

    they build gas chambers! and make soap! out of god’s people! That’s how!

    And now you want to mock this crime of Biblical enormity, and poke fun and ridicule!

    This is disruption sir! This is apostasy!

    The Holy Holocaust is something you bow down to, and beg forgiveness for with every filthy fiber of a goyim’s worthless and non-existent soul!

    Not something to be mocked and sniggered at.

    Watch yourself, Germanicus, god is watching, and he’s not amused.

  507. Truth3 says:
    @FB

    Waste your time?

    ??? WTF.

    Paid by the word must be… shekels.

  508. @Rurik

    Watch yourself, Germanicus, god is watching, and he’s not amused.

    Oh my, I had no idea.
    But Brainiac gave the shrinking gun to Hitler himself! It was well documented by Superman.

    I just saw Brainiac on the jewish “Krypton” series, he is still around, and all those “El”(ohim), superman’s family hate him, because he wants to shrink them all, he plans a shrinkocide.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  509. @anarchyst

    It was zionist leaders who proposed that jews be required to wear the yellow “star of david”. This was a part of the process to make life “uncomfortable” for German jews…and to encourage emigration to what was then known as Palestine…

    Worse yet, those evil Nazis even forced Max Baer to where a huge Star of David on his trunks during that fight with James Braddock.

  510. Mulegino1 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    This graph is not based on original scientific research or existing physical evidence but upon sources (such as Hilberg) which have already been falsified.

    The source documents:

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    Nothing here is original or scientific, or provides any physical or authentic documentary evidence of a mass murder program.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  511. @Anonymous

    I grew up in Memphis which had a somewhat large Jewish population, including the largest Orthodox congregation in the US. In Memphis then, the fifties and sixties, you were either white or black and Jews were white. I don’t recall much anti-semitism in talk or action. Most venom was directed at black people, not Jews. I even had a Jewish friend who was a George Wallace supporter.

  512. @FB

    Now you speak total nonsense. There is no Hitler but Hitler. (Like Muslims are saying)
    Here are the facts.
    Hitler was born to unwed mother Called Shicklegruber.
    In the birth certificate under father column was written Unknown.
    Hitler did carry the family name Shiclegruber until sixth grade of schooling.
    At that year his mother did marry Czech financ (border guard) By family name Alois Hidlerchuck.
    He become stepfather of Hitler and he adopted young Adolph.
    Hitler was known under Adolph Hidlerchuck until his Wiena Years.
    There he went to registry and changed his family name to Hitler.
    Hitler is invented name so there is no family tree of Hitlers.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    , @Truth3
    , @FB
  513. Rich says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I really hope you’re wrong. Ron Unz has been one of the best advocates of free speech left on the net, hope he isn’t caving in to those disturbed by views different than their own, people who are physically, and mentally incapable of scrolling past views they just can’t handle.

    Often I don’t agree with Jeff Stryker, but he has a unique and interesting point of view. Wally has introduced us to a very interesting point of view, backed up by evidence and logic. To those raised and indoctrinated into the faith of the “holocaust”, his questioning may be painful, but you have to give the man his due. Prove him wrong, ignore him,but don’t censor him. It would be a real shame if Mr Unz falls into the trap so many others already have. I hope you’re wrong.

  514. Rurik says:
    @Germanicus

    just saw Brainiac on the jewish “Krypton” series

  515. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    PS
    And Hitler did not have any brothers or sisters. He had only one stepsister Paula Hidlerchuck and I do not think that she did change her name to Paula Hitler.
    She eventually did emigrate to England.

  516. @Mulegino1

    How can anyone claim with straight face something is peer reviewed, if any contrary evidence is being criminalized? It is intellectually highly dishonest, I dare to say criminal and fraudulent. Honest peer review would naturally arrive at revision.

    The reviewers all affirm the official dogma protected by a unique law. Doubters are sent to prison, fired from the job, etc

    • Replies: @Anon
  517. Truth3 says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Wrong.

    Totally wrong.

    Outrageously wrong.

    You confuse AH with his Father.

  518. @Germanicus

    There can always be discrepancies between different studies but I think honest scientists try to make the best use of the data that they have. Damn I thought this looks impressive when I saw it. Maybe just science advancing.

    An interesting point is that the graphs show that most of the kills took place earlier on and not towards the end of the war when there would have been shortages of food and medicines as the deniers who put the blame on the dire circumstances at war’s end would have us believe.

    It’s also interesting to look at the papers on the extermination of the mentally ill, especially the Jewish mental patients. I can understand terminating murderous psychopaths as a precaution but surely killing other mental patients would have been unnecessary as they wouldn’t have been capable of causing any problems to the Nazi regime in Germany or the occupying forces in other countries, especially when they were locked up in asylums. But they were of no use to exploit as slave labour. The evidence strongly suggests that there was a programme of deliberate murder. Whether to the extent these studies suggest or whether they exaggerate the numbers I don’t know, but I doubt that it was all made up.

    As far as anecdotal evidence goes, I trust the words of Savitri Davi, a convicted post-war Nazi sympathiser, who in her book “Defiance” mentions that she met a convicted Nazi woman, a former lay Christian sister, in jail who told her that she murdered a whole bunch of children born to compulsory foreign labourers that she was charged to look after in a children’s home established on the factory premises of the motor car Volkswagen Werke company. Of course Savitri was quite delighted to hear this while the guilty woman was quite upset and justified it as mercy killing. Another Nazi woman in jail told her explicitly that it was the SS men that did the gassing in Auschwitz and not the women staff, which disappointed Savitri who said that she would have been happy to have done the gassing of the Jews herself. I read somewhere that later in life Devi became a Holocaust denier, but I don’t have a reference for that or how reliable that statement may be, but judging from that book she seems to have believed the stories that she heard first hand from other incarcerated Nazis. However, she was able to meet only very few convicted Nazi women and no men during her time in jail, but then you can guess how many more such stories there would have been involving other inmates throughout the German post war prison system who had participated in such or similar events.

    • Replies: @FB
    , @ChuckOrloski
  519. FB says: • Website
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Look Crazy Lady…the story you just recited is WRONG…

    That’s the story of Hitler’s father…Alois Hitler Sr…

    Hitler’s father Alois Hitler Sr. (1837–1903) was the illegitimate child of Maria Anna Schicklgruber.[4]

    The baptismal register did not show the name of his father, and Alois initially bore his mother’s surname Schicklgruber.

    In 1842, Johann Georg Hiedler married Alois’s mother Maria Anna. Alois was brought up in the family of Hiedler’s brother, Johann Nepomuk Hiedler.[5]

    In 1876, Alois was legitimated and the baptismal register changed by a priest to register Johann Georg Hiedler as Alois’s father (recorded as “Georg Hitler”).[6][7]

    Alois then assumed the surname “Hitler”,[7] also spelled Hiedler, Hüttler, or Huettler. The name is probably based on “one who lives in a hut” (German Hütte for “hut”).[8]

  520. @Commentator Mike

    Kr(Holocaust)=[# killed in 100 days]/100days=14,700 murders per day=445,700 murders per monthhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6314819/

    Disposal of bodies at this rate is a mathematical impossibility. Nazis did not have this capability. When considering the proposed daily kill rate in unison with massive requirements for removal and cremation, the entire narrative breaks apart.

    One other thing. It is very interesting that Stone from Tel Aviv University has an available forum for his work on U.S. government websites at the US National Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health, and National Center for Biotechnology Information.

    More experts making a mockery of the real dead from WW2.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Commentator Mike
  521. @anarchyst

    Am anxious for Phil Giraldi’s next article & ideally turn-the-page on “Teaching the Holocaust,” 🤫 and I am very glad how (& with clarity), anarchyst wrote this:
    “It was zionist leaders who proposed that jews be required to wear the yellow “star of david”. This was a part of the process to make life “uncomfortable” for German jews…and to encourage emigration to what was then known as Palestine…” 👍,
    because I cannot take much more of FB’s Mr. Know-It-All Act, talking down to people, & calling them hokey names. (💤igh)

    Given a choice, I would prefer more of Wally’s release of the Trump administration’s “Goof Gas” * which knocks partisan supporters silly & inclines them to endlessly repeat Trump’s “many accomplishments.” Haha. Would even forbear an hour of Corvinus & Fran Taubman’s Dancing With The (Yellow) Stars.🙄

    Thanks & my respect, anarchyst!

    * In The Rocky & Bullwinkle Cartoon Show, commie “evildoer” characters, Boris & Natasha, had access to WMD, “Goof Gas,” which could be sprayed in “Moose’s face, and den, poof you’se a goof!”

  522. MarkinLA says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You do realize that none of this is real proof, don’t you?

  523. FB says: • Website
    @Commentator Mike

    …the words of Savitri Davi, a convicted post-war Nazi sympathiser, who in her book “Defiance” mentions that she met a convicted Nazi woman, a former lay Christian sister, in jail who told her that she murdered a whole bunch of children born to compulsory foreign labourers that she was charged to look after in a children’s home established on the factory premises of the motor car Volkswagen Werke company.

    Thanks for that story…and some of the many other very good materials you have presented…

    To murder a child…never mind a bunch of children, is simply pure evil…these kinds of deranged and sadistic episodes played out many thousands of times during the reign of terror of the Nazi scum…

  524. MarkinLA says:
    @Rurik

    Are not the Jews the chosen people of god?!

    Is Hitler’s “Master Race” just another version of “Chosen People”?

    • Replies: @Theodore
    , @Rurik
  525. Anon[384] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jon Baptist

    Don’t confuse the Jews and their prostitutes with math. They dislike it.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Commentator Mike
  526. Anon[384] • Disclaimer says:
    @Germanicus

    How can anyone claim with straight face something is peer reviewed, if any contrary evidence is being criminalized?

    Don’t confuse Jews and their prostitutes by citing normative academic standards. They dislike them.

  527. Wally says:
    @Commentator Mike

    – Please show us the alleged “Fuehrer order”.

    – Then show us the millions upon millions of human remains that are claimed to exist in known places.

    – Why have you dodged what I posted in comment #302?

    http://www.codoh.com

  528. Theodore says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Just to let everyone know, this “study” has been debunked on the CODOH forum

    New study: 1.7 million jews killed in “hyperintense” 100-day “pulse of death” killing spree
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=12193

    In fact, that alleged order to “speed up” was not referring to mass murder, but resettlement.

    More documents showing that every instance of ‘Final Solution’ to the Jewish question was in reference to resettlement/deportation, not mass murder:

    War-time German documents & writings mentioning the “Final Solution”
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=12296

  529. @Robjil

    You find the dates during 1942 when US and UK were bombing railway lines in Eastern Europe and report them. Yes there was some bombing of Germany but not much further. Most of the heavy bombing campaign came later and mainly targeted the oil facilities in Ploiesti, Romania. As you can see the graph claims most of the Holocaust killings were done during 1942.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  530. @FB

    What sort of a low information commentator would claim that a witness called BY THE PROSECUTION had anything to do with Zundel?

    Are you really this weak-minded?

    I’ll type that agains. Dr Charles Beiderman was called BY THE PROSECUTION!

    That is referred to as an admission against interest, and it is the most powerful evidence available in a court room.

    • Replies: @Germanicus
  531. Theodore says:
    @Wally

    – Please show us the alleged “Fuehrer order”.

    It is referring to Gerstein’s 15 August 1942 report.

    Read more:
    New study: 1.7 million jews killed in “hyperintense” 100-day “pulse of death” killing spree
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=12193

    Arad’s intellectual dishonesty – the smoking gun
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=4447

  532. Wally says:
    @Commentator Mike

    LOL. Projection deluxe.

    – That is classic bullshit from someone who is having his head handed to him.

    – You and anyone else can notice that I respond to the impossible claims by you and other Zionists at this site.

    The fact is that you and those like you keep trotting out the same old repetitious & utterly debunked nonsense, but somehow my demolitions of that truly repetitious & juvenile crap is labeled “even more repetitive”.

    – And to boot, you completely dodge most of what I post. Why?
    Because my information absolutely refutes your “holocaust” fantasies and you are left sucking your thumb, that’s why.

    – Don’t give us your whiny silliness, you ARE definitely calling for censorship because you and your fake “holocaust” scam are being exposed as ridiculous.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  533. Theodore says:
    @MarkinLA

    Is Hitler’s “Master Race” just another version of “Chosen People”?

    Hitler never used the term “Master Race”

    “Master Race” / Herrenrasse / Herrenvolk – a deliberate mistranslation
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=12400

    Also:
    ANTONIO MACHADO ON THE (so-called) “MASTER RACE”
    http://www.cwporter.com/machado.htm

    “Pueblo de Señores” does not mean “Master Race”. Neither does “Herrenvolk”. That is the point.
    Both terms are examples of the patriotic, egalitarian jargon common to all political systems, nothing more.

    Another perfectly correct (and highly plausible) translation of “Herrenvolk” into Spanish would be “Pueblo de Caballeros”.
    “Herren” on a door means exactly the same thing in German as “Señores” or “Caballeros” in Spanish: it means “Men” or Gentlemen” (usually, men’s toilet).
    A certain degree of “Ritterlichkeit”or chivalry is inherent in the concept of “Herr”; a “caballero” is a gentleman or knight.
    A “knight errant” in Spanish is a “caballero errante”: Don Quijote!

  534. Corvinus says:
    @Robjil

    “The “Never Again Listen to Jewish Zionist Advisors Act” needs to be passed to prevent any such things you say happened or is happening.”

    Doubling down, I see. No such act exists, nor will it ever pass. Free speech and all.

    Again, the Holocaust happened.

  535. Theodore says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I tried to find that article in the Jerusalem Post. I saw the book, but could not find the article.

    You will have to ask them for it. Here is a scan:

    https://forum.codoh.com/download/file.php?id=2167

    I have listened to a lot of testimony sounds pretty reasonable to me. The way the transports worked the separations at the train station. The building with the somoke stack. The SS telling the people going to the gas building to take off their clothes and that jobs would await for them after showers, and that the people never came out.

    Something can sound reasonable but also be totally false. There is absolutely no question that some jews lied about gas chambers. Moshe Peer claims he was gassed 6 times at Bergen Belsen. Today, historians universally agree that nobody was gassed at Bergen Belsen. Your position is “Only SOME Jews who claimed they witnessed gassings lied about it”

    Claude Lanzman in his movie ShoA did secret recordings where Germans talked about the trains and transports, and knowing what was going on. Also the gassing vans at Chelmmo.

    Who was recorded? Please show these supposed secret recordings.

    There is a vast amount of information from Jews and Germans. The Nuremberg trials.

    As I pointed out, the vast majority of eyewitness testimony (over 95% at, say, Auschwitz) does not mention homicidal gassings.
    Nobody denies that Jews were rounded up and put in camps.

    You cannot possible deny this part of history and be normal.

    Correction: You cannot possibly deny the “Holocaust” in most of Europe and not be arrested.

    In many countries, “Holocaust denial” is quite normal and common.

    27% of Mexicans believe the ‘Holocaust’ is a myth or exaggerated: https://archive.is/B4JRh#selection-681.147-681.212

    63% of Arabs think the ‘Holocaust’ is a myth or exaggerated: https://archive.is/8xab3#selection-4023.315-4023.429

    Most survivors did not witness the actual gassing and crematorium they were sent to the work barracks.

    And nobody denies cremation. But actually there is no physical evidence for homicidal gassings.

    Germar Rudolf proved using chemical analysis of the alleged homicidal gas chamber walls at Auschwitz that nobody was gassed there

    The Rudolf Report: Expert Report on Chemical and Technical Aspects of the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz
    http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/trr/

    He was, of course, imprisoned for publishing this work which remains unrefuted to this day.

    The Sonderkommando the workers have testified. Filip Muller. These people are not lying. They are not. They talk about the back up of the crematoriums

    How do you know if they are lying? Nobody denies the crematoria.

    More on Mueller:

    The Lies, Slips, Bungles and Perjuries of Filip Mueller, Professional Witness of Auschwitz-Birkenau
    https://codoh.com/library/document/635/

    Filip Mueller / another lying “eyewitness”
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=95

    Josef G Burg (a Jew) and Paul Rassinier (a French Communist) were prisoners of the Nazis and forced into concentration camps. They were the first ‘Holocaust deniers’ how can you call them liars?

  536. Wally says:
    @Anon

    “Dislike” indeed.

    “These Holocaust deniers are very slick people. They justify everything they say with facts and figures.”

    – Steven Some, Chairman of the New Jersey Commission on Holocaust Education, Newark Star-Ledger, 23 Oct. 1996, p 15.

  537. @Wally

    That was intended for Linda not me.

    You show me who, where and when carried out excavation studies at those sites to actually prove that there are no remains. What if objects such as stadiums or other buildings were built over the mass graves after the war? Have there been any ground penetrating radar studies carried over suspected burial sites if actual permission could not be obtained to excavate? You keep saying nothing was found but you never mention who looked to find anything.

    • Replies: @Theodore
    , @Wally
  538. @Rich

    Assuming you are not what the blogosphere delights in calling a liar, not least on UR threads by the linguistically and intellectually challenged, you are lazy and irresponsible. I have read most of the very long Wikipedia article on “Laws against Holocaust Denial” and there is clearly no prohibition on research or reference to what may be said by counsel in court. “Disputing” – or “Coarsely” or “Grossly” “trivializing” – the Nazi crimes against humanity is about as wide as it gets though it should be of some concern that malicious prosecution in different countries for slightly different crimes could break someone’s finances.

    Perhaps the most interesting discovery was a long quote from Deborah Lipstadt whom Ron Unz has convincingly characterised in very unflattering terms. It is hard not to approve of her saying:

    “I still am a firm opponent of laws against Holocaust denial. First of all, I’m a pretty fierce advocate of the First Amendment. Having been sued for libel, and having had that in my life for about six years, I’m more than ever. Even though libel is not covered by the First Amendment, [David Irving] wouldn’t have been able to sue me in this country because he was a public figure.

    But I also don’t think that these laws are efficacious. Forget the morality – I don’t think they work. I think they turn whatever is being outlawed into forbidden fruit. We saw it in Germany, when Mein Kampf was released from the embargo on it a few years ago. People bought it because suddenly it was something they could get ahold of. I just don’t think these laws work. And the third reason I’m opposed to them is I don’t want politicians making a decision on what can and cannot be said. That scares me enormously”.

    *** *** ***
    FWIW my take on the situation caused by the objectionable anti Holocaust denial laws is that they should allow a smart anti-Semite to infuriate Zionists and organised Jewry by subtle stirrings and provocations. Only stubborn blockheads need worry about conviction and serving time in gaol.

    Of course I understand it if you want to line up with the blockheads.

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
    , @Rich
  539. @MarkinLA

    But it could be important evidence.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @MarkinLA
  540. @Commentator Mike

    Hey Commenter Mike!

    You are an interesting guy, thanks!

    Am an old buck who swooned over Neil Diamond’s “Kentucky Woman,” but outside of Hitler’s squeeze, Eva, I am unaware of other “Nazi women.”

    Nonetheless, please consider the life of Marlene Dietrich who Adolph once considered a true German girl but, alas, she became otherwise. Below, C.M., some intro. things from top of my head, & I don’t mean my “other” life directing head.

    Marlene Dietrich; born ,”Maria Magdalena,” well educated, Prussian family values, hubba-hubba, a silent & talkie film star, once had Adolph Hitler as big fan, FBI kept on eye on her, got into feminist lib. expression, she took to Weimar Republic decadence, danced at Berlin nightclubs,💃 became Hitler’s political opponent, became big hit in America,🤗 married a wealthy dud, had child, escaped Germany via airplane as homelanders began to recognize a way to rise from out of Versailles Treaty/Weimar stinkhole, and voila, Marlene Dietrich lay buried in Zionized Germany.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  541. Theodore says:
    @Commentator Mike

    You show me who, where and when carried out excavation studies at those sites to actually prove that there are no remains.

    Not how it works buddy. If you claim millions of pounds of remains exist in an exactly known location, but can not show one iota of remains, you lose.

    There’s a $100,000 reward for anyone that can prove it here:
    http://www.nafcash.com/

    Have there been any ground penetrating radar studies carried over suspected burial sites if actual permission could not be obtained to excavate?

    Sure, Richard Krege did a GPR scan of Treblinka and found no evidence of huge mass graves. He never published though, but there really wasn’t anything to publish. Caroline Sturdy-Colls also did some scans of Treblinka and failed to prove there was even 1% of the alleged ‘huge mass graves’ in precisely known locations.

    You keep saying nothing was found but you never mention who looked to find anything.

    Why don’t you? You could win $100,000
    http://www.nafcash.com/

    If there were burnt remains of 100s of thousands of jews buried in exactly known locations, we would have actual evidence of it by now. Simple as that

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  542. @Jon Baptist

    The author is also associated with RMIT at Melbourne which is a reputable institution. So the kill rate is higher than the one in Rwanda but the Africans used the most primitive methods.

    • Replies: @Theodore
  543. @Anon

    The author of that paper I quoted is a Jew and a mathematician.

  544. Anon[394] • Disclaimer says:
    @FB

    Like I said the liberating Russian and Allied troops DOCUMENTED extremely thoroughly what they found in the death camps…

    I forgot that a statement that asserts a mass genocide, for which there are no bodies, that uses the emphasized phrase “X DOCUMENTED extremely thoroughly” was all that it took to serve as argument and proof of anything but the writers own lack of education in rhetoric and proof.

    The middling IQ and resultant retard level arguments of you people is your own perpetual Achilles heel.

    We love it. Bring us more baseless vague assertions, WORDS IN ALL CAPS, adjectives, etc serving as the core of your argument. It’ll allow us to continue to steamroll you people in the realm of PR, exponentially gain political allies among the general population, all the while having a collective laugh at what passes for intellectualism and history from people who can’t patch together a convincing fictional historical narrative even 75 years later and despite billions spent to keep the lie afloat.

    But I suppose that’s what is great about research / academic standards. They were invented specifically to weed out liars and fabricators, and therefore when the standards cannot be met or are suppressed (both the case for the Holocaust) then the authors automatically take on the air of liars even if open dissent is still politically suppressed.

    Thanks science!