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I thought that perhaps I had tuned into John Oliver or to Saturday Night Live in error, but no doubt about it, there was an unmistakable President Donald Trump speaking before an audience at the National Space Council. He was saying that on his own presidential authority “I’m hereby directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon to immediately begin the process necessary to establish a space force as the sixth branch of the armed forces. … We are going to have the Air Force, and we are going to have the Space Force, separate but equal.”

Before signing Space Policy Directive 3 mandating the change and abruptly departing, Trump went on to explain that “My administration is reclaiming America’s heritage as the world’s greatest space-faring nation. The essence of the American character is to explore new horizons and to tame new frontiers. But our destiny, beyond the Earth, is not only a matter of national identity, but a matter of national security. It is not enough to merely have an American presence in space. We must have American dominance in space.”

The Air Force, which already has a Space Command, will no doubt object to the new arrangement, preferring instead to roll the expanded responsibilities and money into its already existing framework. Secretary of Defense James Mattis is also reported to be against the expansion, explaining in a speech last year that “The creation of an independent Space Corps, with the corresponding institutional growth and budget implications, does not address…our nation’s fiscal problems in a responsive manner.”

And Donald Trump will have to get over a couple of bureaucratic hurdles to get his nifty new interstellar command up and running. First of all, it will require an Act of Congress to create a new branch of the military. That might not be difficult to do as the expansion is being packaged as “national security,” which Republicans will support reflexively and Democrats will also get behind not wanting to appear weak before the elections in November. And both parties will also be willing to line up to benefit from the political contributions coming from defense contractors as well as the creation of new military support facilities providing jobs in congressional districts.

And then there is the money, alluded to by Mattis. Start-up funding a new, coequal military branch would mean a huge increase in the defense budget. As long as the dollar remains the world’s reserve currency and the treasury can print money without any real backing it is possible to ride the wave, but there are currently significant challenges to the dollars survival in that role. If its supremacy ends, there goes the economy taking the unrestrained government spending with it and sinking the Space Command together with much, much more.

Major defense contractors, all of whom were present to hear Trump’s speech, were immediately seen to be drooling over the prospect of a new cash cow. And at the Pentagon champagne corks were popping at the thought of a couple of hundred new flag officer positions that will have to be invented and filled as well as the full complement of civilians to staff the bureaucracy. And think of the uniforms that will have to be distinct from those used by the other branches of the service, maybe copying those formerly in vogue on the Starship Enterprise or as seen in the movie Starship Troopers.

The reality is that the United States does indeed have a major national security interest in protecting its network of satellites in orbit as well as related infrastructure, but there is still quite a lot in the Trump remarks that is disturbing. Trump is basically saying two things. The first is that he will be weaponizing outer space and the second is that he is doing so because he intends for the United States to become dominant in that domain. It is a complete ass-backwards approach to the problem of potential development of threats coming from beyond the atmosphere. Instead of arming outer space, Washington should be working with other countries that have capabilities in that region to demilitarize exploration and both commercial and government exploitation. Everyone has an interest in not allowing outer space to become the next site for an arms race, though admittedly working with other countries does not appear to be something that the Trump Administration enters into lightly. Or at all.

And Trump should also abandon his insistence that the United States develop “dominance” in space. The use of such language is a red flag that will make any agreement with countries like Russia and China impossible to achieve. It virtually guarantees that there will be a competition among a number of nations to develop and deploy killer satellites employing lasers and other advanced electronic jamming technologies to protect their own outer space infrastructure.

Trump appears to have internalized a viewpoint that sees the United States as surrounded by threats but able to emerge victorious by being hyper-aggressive on all fronts. It is a posture that might unnerve opponents and bring some success in the short term but which ultimately will create a genuine threat as the rest of the world lines up against Washington. That day might be coming if one goes by the reaction to recent U.S. votes in the United Nations and Trump’s behavior at G-7 are anything to go by.

No one in his right mind would allow Trump to dominate outer space based on Washington’s track record of irresponsible leadership since 9/11. It has wrecked the Middle East, South Asia and North Africa, killing possibly as many as 4 million Muslims in so doing. It has bullied allies into joining its projects in places like Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria while also disparaging foreign governments and entering into trade wars. It has bankrupted itself in all but name, systematically dismantled the rights of its own citizens, and has become a rogue nation by virtually every measure.

And when you have firmly established the principle that might makes right and all the universe is at the disposal of Washington, what comes next? Antarctica and the arctic region are by some accounts rich in natural resources. Will we Americans be seeing an Antarctic Command with a mandate to dominate the polar regions to enhance national security? Stay tuned.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is www.councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected]

 
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  1. Well, given such vanity projects as carrier battle groups and ultra-advanced manned aircraft, why not a space command?

    It’s at least as harmless, we’re going to spend the money anyway, and star cruisers are pretty cool. What the hell?

    I say go for it. Trump doesn’t stop me going fishing, I’ll watch the growth of his space command with benevolent interest. It’s all magic money anyway.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  2. Bubba says:

    “Space force”?!?! Trump needs to kick the Department of Defense in the ass for another insane idea. America needs an unsophisticated, impenetrable, low-cost wall built along the Mexican border immediately. What will be left of America to defend if Mexico keeps exporting its current revolution (ongoing for 30 years) into the United States?

    • Replies: @byrresheim
  3. The US Army has a Space Brigade in Colorado with over 1000 soldiers, which I once suggested be eliminated to cut Army fat.

    http://www.g2mil.com/armyfat.htm

    1000 – Disband the 1st Space Brigade

    The U.S. Strategic Command includes a forward element in Colorado. Since some Army officers want to play war in space, the Army formed a space battalion that grew that into the 1st Space Brigade in 2003. While the Army’s 100th Missile Defense Brigade there makes sense, the Space Brigade has a vague mission to provide “space support” to everyone, which is already provided by the Air Force and other agencies. Any essential components can move into the 100th Brigade structure.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  4. Dan Hayes says:

    It should prove rather interesting if the US ever sets up an Arctic Command as it will then be stepping on the toes of the Russian Bear which has historically and preemptively laid claim to it.

    • Replies: @Moi
  5. Biff says:

    I watched some of Ken Burns Vietnam documentary, and I was struck by how many times “Communist threat” was mentioned. It should be realized that “threat” and “security” are the first go-to bullshit terms out of the propaganda files. There is no threat, there are only ”obstacles” in the way of domination. There are those who simply will never give up the attempt to dominate everything, including the moon, and the stars.

    BTW, my Dad always thought I was going to be an astronaut – I took up space in college.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  6. RobinG says:

    “EVERY PHOTON IS PRECIOUS”

    Not so wildly O/T, if our Space Forces will be growing their own food in airponics bays, like on Starship Voyager. Anyway, this is the best lecture I’ve seen, maybe forever, so just wanted to share.

    Why Vertical Farming Won’t Save the Planet

    • Replies: @m___
  7. El Dato says:

    The rest will be hordes of new office buildings.

    Well, maybe NASA can finally get some funding for the interplanetary NERVA they have been tinkering with for a long time. That would at least be of some conceivable use.

    The United Launch Alliance, however, looks like a moaning white elephant of MIC glitterati. Maybe it could be edged away from the trough.

  8. separate but equal

    Hmm. That has a nice ring to it.

  9. Dingo jay says: • Website

    Philip keepmyourccool.

  10. haha, could this be trump trying to follow reagan’s steps?

    A tv showman + troll vs an old senile actor, both hired for the same purpose, to distracted the stupid public :)

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  11. nagra says:

    “the torture never stops”
    ( from zappa song : )

  12. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    “The creation of an independent Space Corps, with the corresponding institutional growth and budget implications, does not address…our nation’s fiscal problems in a responsive manner.”

    That’s rich, shedding crocodile tears over another massive influx of tax monies to the gluttonous Pentagon, while America’s infrastructure goes to hell from lack of money.

    That space is not to be weaponized, according to past treaties–which the USA signed–matters not to the self-proclaimed rulers of the world and now, outer space.

    You can see their psyop articles all over the MSM, spreading fear about Russia and China building hyper-sonic missiles and killer satellites.
    Reminds me of the late 1950′s and ’60′s, when Americans were scare stiff about bomber and missile gaps, that could only be cured with a massive chunk of tax money.

    You can go to this link and see the huge number of bombers the US built, some only to be dropped after spending billions on production.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_bomber_aircraft

    And the same wasteful strategy will be used on this ‘Jetsons’ space force.

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
  13. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:

    We’ve got the third-world flooding into out country both from the southern border and at major U.S. airports. And yet we spend billions to send troops to Norway & Poland to be vigilant about “protecting” the integrity of the borders of those countries. And we base our military in Syria and threaten war over foreign territories where we have no legal to even be. Now we need a space command. As our country becomes a third-world flophouse and our middle class is decaying at an exponential rate, we need a space command? For what? To protect the hollowed-out and third-world America??

    • Agree: RVBlake
    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @turtle
  14. Heros says:

    Trump is clearly a Zionist crypto-jew and he never could have made it to the presidency without a kosher seal of approval anyway.

    One reason the US MIC looks like such idiots all the time is because they clearly are not the ones really calling the shots. So often, especially in the middle east, Trump or some other Poobah will make some proclamation, and withing hours the military will be bombing or invading in direct contravention.

    What is happening is the all these people are merely figure heads with little authority. Whenever the real powers bark their orders, the entire chain of command snaps into action. We see it happen between nations when Nato makes some decision like bombing Libya, and all of Nato steps in line. Or Russians sanctions. Or recently when most of Nato expelled Russian diplomats for a blatant chem warfare false flag.

    These orders are coming straight out of Jerusalem. Even the highest level puppets like Trump, Macron, Merkel or May have no idea what the real agenda is, or what is coming next. This is why these pronouncements often seem so idiotic. What to jewish supremecists care if anyone of these political bufoons looks like an ass. It is the same reason they force macho movie stars and music idols to be seen dressed as women.

    So for some reason ZOG wants attention brought to the weaponization of space. Knowing from Talpiot and wikileaks that they already have control over most US technology (Spectre), it seems clear to me that the Zionists want to maintain and increase their control of space, likely as part of some milestone on their path to building the third temple. Clearly Israel does not have the resources to accomplish this task of dominating space on her own, so once again the task falls on the #1 stooge, the JooSA. Trump is the perfect retard to announce the planned “space force”, they used Obama for idiotic announcements on things like global warming.

  15. Maybe the real goal is to prevent smaller nations from launching satellites without US permission. Shooting down Iranian satellites would serve as an object lesson to other countries that it is pointless to develop satellite launch capabilities (and long range ballistic missiles) if Uncle Sam objects. Of course, this plan would completely contravene of the 1967 Outer Space Treaty.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  16. “…irresponsible leadership since 9/11…”
    The easiest way to crack a nut is to drop 3 WTC buildings on it.

  17. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:

    So, let me see if I got this right… Numbnuts wants a space army to defend against all of those shiney thingys in the night sky? Even though he already has a space army to defend against all of those shiney thingys in the night sky. Even though all of those shiney thingys have have been in the night sky since the dawn of time. Even though the shiney thingy in the daytime sky is one of those shiney thingys, and the round thingy that we live on is one of them too. 4-D chess huh? Well played, numbnuts.

  18. A real war in space would create so much orbital debris that it could cause a cascade of destruction and threaten America’s own assets up there. Unless they develop Star Trek style phasers that completely vaporize their targets, space war will be pretty much impractical.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  19. I was reminded of Reagan’s Star Wars.

  20. @Wally Streeter

    Israel already has several satellites, for improving the climate.
    But indeed, Saddam’s program for launching satellites may have been a factor in attacking the country.
    The first stage of the launching was to be by a super gun, a principle already tested by Germany in WWII, Hochdruckpompe.
    Explosives placed along the barrel, exploding one after another.
    The Canadian scientist living in Brussels leading Saddam’s project was killed by Mossad.
    Belgian police think they know who the murderer is, but has been unable to arrest him, or get him extradited.
    Thus, Star Wars is no fiction.
    But on the ground.

    • Replies: @Heros
  21. @Wally Streeter

    The Dutch navy already seems to have a ship with a laser gun.

  22. Tom Welsh says:

    “The essence of the American character is to explore new horizons and to tame new frontiers”.

    And to kill everyone found living there.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  23. RVBlake says:

    So the same decorated Junkers infesting the Pentagon who have been floundering around in Afghanistan for 17 years now are salivating at the prospect of a public-funded boondoggle in outer space.

  24. @Anonymous

    Alex and the Bum

    Just prior to being attacked the homeless old man tells Malcolm McDowell “Men spinning around the earth and no attention paid to earthly law and order any more”

    The socialist hell-hole of roving gangs of 18 year old thugs and seedy prime ministers appointing feckless psychotics to made-up jobs in order to save public face.

    Indeed, the future is a Clockwork Orange.

  25. Moi says:

    Who better to launch a Space Command than our very own First Space Cadet.

  26. Moi says:
    @Dan Hayes

    No fears. We’re broke, the Chinese have the bucks–besides, they are smarter than us.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  27. @Tom Welsh

    …Because Australia did not shoot aboriginals like dogs.

    …Or Canadians buggering Native kids in special schools up to the 1950′s.

    …Spanish elites right now in Latin America are killing Indians, why do you think they all flee to the United States?

    Sure, the Americans are the only folks who do that.

    • Replies: @nagra
  28. Moi says:
    @Heros

    No fears. We’re broke, the Chinese have the bucks–besides, they are smarter than us.

  29. Duncan says:

    I was going to comment, but anonymous266 already said pretty much everything I wanted to say.
    This country is turning into a overused toilet, meanwhile we have a political, economic and cultural elite living in their own world happily insulated from the consequences of their actions.

  30. nagra says:

    Trump forgot to say that USA needs to buy and use Russian rocket engines to lift them up at all
    ( ‘space forces’ needs one general up there at least : )

    • Replies: @Svigor
  31. @Heros

    “These orders are coming straight out of Jerusalem. Even the highest level puppets like Trump, Macron, Merkel or May have no idea what the real agenda is, or what is coming next. This is why these pronouncements often seem so idiotic. What to jewish supremecists care if anyone of these political bufoons looks like an ass. It is the same reason they force macho movie stars and music idols to be seen dressed as women.”

    What a mouthful, and sooo true.

  32. Sam Shama says:

    You forgot the mention of Jews behind Trump’s Interstellar Plan, a theme oft repeated by your loyal coterie of fans; one, in particular, has it even spanning millennia!

    Thought I should remedy that dearth if only to assure voluminous comments.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  33. @Colin Wright

    Add Star Wars to Washington’s list of wet dreams that still don’t work

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  34. The U.S. already has a space command and it is called Solar Warden and has had for decades, do a search for Gary McKinnon, John Lear, Corey Goode, Laura Eisenhower, Linda Multon Howe, and do a search on the internet for Solar Warden.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  35. Heros says:
    @jilles dykstra

    “Israel already has several satellites, for improving the climate.”

    I would be interested if you had some links or more info on that. Apparently he Israeli owned Ormat geothermal plant seems was conducting experiments on Hawaii before the eruption. The same company has plants all over the planet, many where volcanic events have occurred.

    The recent attempted semitic overthrow of Syria was preceded by a long drought that had caused food shortages. It happened before Maidan in 2014 and Libya in 2011 too, IIRC.

    The Rothschild family recently got control of weather central and the weather channel and their bank is heavily involved in weather derivatives.

    There have been several bizarre weather events in the last few years, with “atmospheric rivers” (US west coast) and “atmospheric bombs” (US east coast) becoming new expressions. There were 3 strange misbehaving hurricanes that hit Houston or nearby in a few weeks in 2016 IIRC. Right at the time Hillary’s illicit email was hitting the headlines, out of no where a gigantic tropical hurricane came out of no where and was going to hit Southern California. All news was dominated with talk about evacuations and blackouts. When it finally arrive it was a category 1 storm as I recall. There have also been very suspicious wildfires in California in 2017, the one in Southern California spontaneously started in 72 different places in “exceptional winds”.

    One of Israel’s biggest problems is water, and much of their land theft in recent times is centered around getting control of water resources. If you think like a land stealing jew, if you cannot steal the water after it has landed, then steal it before. Weather manipulation and the diversion and theft of moisture in the atmosphere that would naturally be headed somewhere else is exactly what I would expect from jews.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  36. turtle says:
    @Anonymous

    A new life awaits you, in the off-world colonies…

  37. Yeah, I was sitting here at the computer the other night, trying to read the internet as usual, which is a futile mission — they change the damn thing a lot faster than I can read it. Anyway, the idiot box was on in the next room, and Trump was addressing some friendly crowd somewhere … and I thought I heard him saying something about a Space Patrol or a Space Corps or some such nonsense. I was hoping I’d merely hallucinated it. Apparently, not so.

    Hey, if Trump wanted to be my last hope of anything at all, he’d be setting about burning FBI, CIA, and NSA to the ground, pissing on the ashes, and sowing the ground with salt so nothing would ever grow there again. He’d be closing down every foreign base for US troops, bringing them ALL home, discharging 95% (starting with the uniformed gang members and the ridiculous gender-confused and homos, and also the women), and giving the selected remainder exactly one limited mission: secure the borders of the continental United States. But Trump’s merely a clown. He has one minor redeeming feature, though: he does seem to drive the domestic commies and lesbigaywhatevers absolutely insane. So there’s that.

    • Agree: RVBlake
  38. Ben Frank says:

    When our satellites start failing mysteriously and signs point to Chinese technology doing it, we will all be glad that the President started this initiative. Better late than never.

    • Replies: @Reactionary Utopian
  39. Clyde says:

    Will Space Command have it’s own twitter account? This would be cool and so would calling its top officers “Comandante” instead of General. This would help Trump with the Latino community.

  40. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Heros

    They created hurricanes to try to help Hillary’s election but couldn’t hack a handful of voting machines?

    Interesting.

    • Replies: @Heros
  41. Trump’s Space Force is not for domestic consumption. It’s intended to worry the Russians and Chinese. It’s possible Trump thinks he can win an arms race. If so he is a fool. More likely he is puffing himself up prior to negotiations.

  42. @DESERT FOX

    Also do a search on Paul Hellyer and Andrew D. Basiago in regards to Solar Warden.

  43. South Asia is intact save Pakistan and the dollar isn’t going anywhere and invasion of the Middle East isn’t only for Israel… the good life you are accustomed to in America comes at a cost and nothing comes for free which you ought to know being a doctor, unless you got your papers from the Trump University!

  44. @Ben Frank

    When our satellites start failing mysteriously and signs point to Chinese technology doing it, we will all be glad that the President started this initiative. Better late than never.

    Is that anything like the “signs” that the evil Rooskies hacked the DNC’s state-of-the-fart computer systems? Yeah, can’t wait until “the intelligence community” issues some sort of consensus document saying that those mysterious, sinister Chinamen done did in our satellites, and it’s time to kick off another stupid war. Just can’t wait. “Better late than never,” indeed.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  45. A superb piece by Phil.

  46. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    Good to see you’re still checking in on Phil’s articles on a weekly basis, Sam. I’m sure it’s because you’re keenly interested in the topics about which he likes to write. It kind of reminds one of the watchful eyes of TJ Eckleberg in F. Scott Fitzgerald’s The Great Gatsby.

  47. Heros says:
    @Tyrion 2

    It was never a hurricane, it was fake from the beginning. Through their Weather Channel, Weather Central, and all their other media tentacles like Reuters and Economist, they simply have to make YOU think that there is a giant hurricane coming while diverting attention away from whatever they don’t want you to see, in this case Clinton corruption. They will have already sold weather derivatives on the fake hurricane they will have created through smoke and mirrors. The hurricane fizzles and they cash in their derivatives (hedges) for a nice profit. In addition, with just a little nudge, they will have the entire worlds media crowing in harmony about “climate change”.

    Weather manipulation is clearly important for Israel because of potential instability or economic loss due to drought, not to mention as a weapon of war. The Rothschilds, Kings of Israel, the jews, and Emperors of the goyim, even if they never used this technology directly for personal gain would be able to profit by forehand knowledge of its usage.

  48. @Carroll Price

    ‘Add Star Wars to Washington’s list of wet dreams that still don’t work’

    What you need to do is reduce your expectations. When it’s a choice between wet dreams which will have catastrophic consequences and wet dreams that are relatively harmless, let Washington out to play with her star cruisers.

    It’s just money.

  49. Them Guys says:
    @Heros

    Welcome to The Jewnited Snakes colony of Israel.

    Tikun Olem Part-II, the Jewish Repair of Outer Space! (when did it get broken? who broke it?)

    Once we land on Mars, our new space force cadets are going to erect the biggest, tallest Minorah aka devils pitch fork, the world has ever seen…it will be well over 1,000 Stories tall, if not more Biggly. US Prez TrumpSki Americas cryptojewboy in control.

  50. Maybe this is Trump’s stab at fiscal policy. It reminds me of when Krugman suggested faking an alien invasion to stimulate the economy. If so, get ready for a false flag involving the International Space Station and a retaliatory cruise missile strike aimed at some empty craters on the moon.

  51. nickels says:

    Queue Jew York Times article:
    “Putin has designs on the moon.”
    Face it, our country is run by sick retards.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  52. nagra says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    the truth, and yes,
    so they still do it even today
    they’ve spilt lot of my blood in Balkans

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  53. “The world’s greatest space-faring nation…”

    Yeah… Right!

    That is why the US is currently purchasing Russian rocket engines…

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  54. Them Guys says:

    Perhaps Trumps 78-D Chess game plans are to secretly use his new Space Command top generals to go deeply into space in search of the End of the Internet?

    USA Must at all costs Beat Russia at discovering the internets end and final website page. It is out there somewheres folks, and with 89-D Chess, chess Master Trump is going to locate it, or bust.

  55. No one in his right mind would allow Trump to dominate outer space based on Washington’s track record of irresponsible leadership since 9/11. It has wrecked the Middle East, South Asia and North Africa, killing possibly as many as 4 million Muslims in so doing. It has bullied allies into joining its projects in places like Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria while also disparaging foreign governments and entering into trade wars. It has bankrupted itself in all but name, systematically dismantled the rights of its own citizens, and has become a rogue nation by virtually every measure.

    Spot on. Trump’s ravings about “dominating” space make me think the American exceptionalist crowd will never accept a United States that shares power with other strong nations like China and Russia. Will saner minds prevail and relegate the exceptionalists to the cellar (or the gallows if it gets really crazy) or will they hold on to power and decide a nuclear showdown is preferable to the United States joining the UK and Russia as a post-empire nation?

  56. The US elites have lost their collective mind a while ago. This is yet another manifestation of their cluelessness, yet another step towards self-destruction. Unfortunately for us all, they will bring the country down with them. As Mr. Giraldi aptly ended his piece, stay tuned.

  57. El Dato says:
    @nickels

    Why does he have the designs on the Moon and where are they stored exactly?

    In the middle of crater Tycho?

    TRUMP MEMETIC ARCHIVE 1:

  58. @Bubba

    No need for a wall.
    Apply current law.
    Go after the employers.
    No work: no illegals.
    Simples.

  59. This is why we can’t have anything nice. Most Americans have less than $1000 to their name and live paycheck to paycheck, health care sucks and is unaffordable. Veterans homeless and suiciding themselves. Someones gotta pay for the MIC robbing America blind for 17 years now, it won’t be the rich. 21 trillion in the hole now, probably far more than that in reality.
    The MIC and foreign lobbies are out of control. These wars are not benefiting 90% of Americans, but we will be the ones to pay for it. They’ll be droning people here in America before long. Count on it.

    Congress May Declare the Forever War
    A proposed law with bipartisan support would dramatically weaken the ability of legislators to extricate the United States from perpetual armed conflict.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/congress-may-declare-the-forever-war/562175/

    Proposed by Senators Tim Kaine and Bob Corker, its radicalism approaches that of a constitutional amendment. Their new AUMF would subvert an article at the core of the Constitution, gutting a vital protection against tyranny devised by the Framers. It would authorize multiple existing wars without even debating them individually. It would empower Trump and his successors to unilaterally wage war in new countries, expand their ability to indefinitely detain prisoners without charges, and empower them to unilaterally kill individuals even inside the United States.

    The legal scholar Jonathan Turley most effectively underscored how anathema the proposal would be to the Framers who so deliberately vested the war power in Congress.

    “This is one of the few points on which there was almost unanimity [at the Constitutional Convention],” he explained. “I say almost because Pierce Butler actually proposed to give this entire power to the president of the United States. He didn’t receive a second. He spoke to a room of Framers and made that proposal, and not a single one seconded that motion. That was one of the most important moments of our republic. That silence, the absence of a sound, shows where we began.”

    • Replies: @El Dato
  60. @Heros

    I’m curious. Is there nothing in this world that is not a problem? And a problem created by Jews? And then a conspiracy by Jews to cover up their involvement.

    I realize this is UNZ and a piece by Philip Giraldi, but it is about a perceived ridiculousness of having a Space Force.

    You were real quick on the trigger with this Jews thing.

    So lemme get this straight. They control Hollywood AND the weather? Jesus. This is serious.

    • Replies: @Heros
    , @Z-man
  61. El Dato says:
    @redmudhooch

    Proposed by Senators Tim Kaine and Bob Corker

    It’s time for Victor the Cleaner to do a house visit.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  62. While the argument for denominating space is thought provoking, the idea of provoking wars via space is less than appetizing. Because given our current posture as indicated in the article, it sounds like another avenue to violate others sovereignty and more problematic is determining sovereign space. I guess one uses gps to extend the lines about one’s current territory. But that is not really the issue. The issue is all that water and minerals on the moon. The mechanism for determine said access and ownership.

    The big issues return on investment to risk — and when I sat roi to risk – I mean that for the public in general. No fan of f the public given the tendency to be fickle — a madding crowd —

    However, I am not convinced that the US public has benefited to man woman and child to investment made in NASA that has reaped substantial rewards for bur a few.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  63. Manuel Arce says: • Website

    and the National Infrastructure Recovery and REcontruction Plan???? preparing America for the 21th century global commerce, educating the young for the LABOR demands of the future.???Rebuilding the INNercities? roads, bridges, airports, digital utilities, futuristic public transportation systems, smart cities??? Reforming and revamping the VA+private options?? merging the EDD/Labor dept?? Expanding the Pentagon nexus with SMALL businesses mom&pop vendors, unions apprenticeship programs and the armed forces (VA retraining)…US military branches and and Charter tech/Vocational schools???

  64. “Instead of arming outer space, Washington should be working with other countries that have capabilities in that region to demilitarize exploration and both commercial and government exploitation.”

    The cuck-out as opening move. I can see why your advice is so highly coveted.

  65. @Greg Bacon

    “And the same wasteful strategy will be used on this ‘Jetsons’ space force.”

    And Spacely’s Space Sprockets will be there to supply their parts needs. Now crawl back into your Cogwell’s Cogs hole.

  66. Svigor says:
    @nagra

    Russian flatheads should squeeze as much as they can out of this one; it’s expiring soon.

  67. @EliteCommInc.

    Right… do you think the weather satellites the US has been putting up that orbit around the world and through national policy allows anyone with a satellite receiver to receive hasn’t aided the lives of people around the world, not just Americans?

    • Replies: @EliteComminc.
  68. @nagra

    Any country that believes the world would be all peace and harmony if not for the United States is an idiot.

    • Replies: @nagra
  69. @Reactionary Utopian

    Yeah, can’t wait until “the intelligence community” issues some sort of consensus document saying that those mysterious, sinister Chinamen done did in our satellites, and it’s time to kick off another stupid war.

    China is not exactly a soft target. This isn’t Iraq we’re talking about, and Iraq was plenty bad enough.

    A war with China would bring about the end of the US Imperium under any scenario.

  70. denk says:

    Uncle sham [1]
    the Russkies and chicoms are deploying deadly space weapons, we have to close this vast missile gap in space pronto.

    typical murkkan circular logic…
    They started weaponising the space, when the other side deploy counter measures, uncle use that response to justify its provocation.

    [1]
    Trump is just the latest iteration of uncle sham.
    murkkans still cant figure out potus is just a front manager for the deep state.

    hehhehe

  71. Them Guys says:
    @El Dato

    I just got off the phone with, Louie DeThumper in Detroit so he is now aware of the problem too.

  72. nagra says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    so much of peace and harmony
    that’s funniest comment I’ve seen for a while
    where do you live, on Mars?
    ( :

  73. re-read the comment with an English translation dictionary and then maybe you’ll understand it.

    If you were white and not half Red Indian, your comprehensive skills would be greater.

    This is the reason why the Spanish elite in Latin America have you under thumb.

    Or one of them, anyhow.

  74. @Joe Stalin

    i think so and that’s nice. I think the US citizens are entitled to cash returns. now your response here fought be — well they got a return in tv and cell phones, so did those that are making bank on the same.

    ROI in monetary value.

    I am delighted we gt to see smart bombs in real time and watch the Olympics nothing wrong in that. However, monetary returns should not be discounted merely because my return allows me to cross the globe without actually leaving my own home. Spin-off for health devices . . . .

    https://subscribe.techbriefs.com/tb/spinoff/health-and-medicine?start=45

    You might want to check out those costs . . . to the consumer of those commercial products.

  75. Heros says:
    @Johnny Rico

    “Is there nothing in this world that is not a problem? And a problem created by Jews”

    That question is so stupid, only a jew could have come up with it. Besides, you are the one who is busy blowing on the anti-semite dog whistle, so I would suggest that it is you who should provide examples of the parts of our lives where jews have allowed us to go about our ways without their meddling.

    I would also like to use your stupid question as a basis to suggest to Ron Unz that he put a little radio button next to the “Name” input that says “Jew/Non Jew”. Even though the vast majority of jews would prefer to remain anonymous jewish trolls, at least then we would be able to determine if there was such a thing as an honest jewish commentor who is not a troll. I doubt it would ever be voluntarily checked as “jew”.

    Back to your question whether any aspect of our lives remains uncorrupted by the Talmudists and and their Chrisitian and Goyim hating beliefs.

    After the first kosher German Reich (from Dolchstoss (1918) to Hitlerwahl (1933)) the jewish Cultural Marxists in the Frankfurt school, who had been working diligently for the subversion and destruction of German culture and history, decided that the new sheriff would not be happy when he discovered what they had been up to, so they got their Commintern cronies to help them relocate to Chicago, under the wing of Rosenfeld and his Talmudic owners like Brandies, Baruch, Frankfurter and Morgentau.

    Since 1933 these Cultural Marxists in the US have focused their hate on Christianity, Goyim, and most of all their families. Boaz weaponized Anthropology, Gramisci planned his march through the instititutions, and on and on. Every aspect of our lives was invaded, and weaponized against us where possible.

    Meanwhile, jewish communist subversion of all US goyim families; black, white, mexican, and asian has been continued by the Jewish owned media and other jewish run institutions like SPLC, ADL, NAACP. Together with Jewish Power in banking, media, government, law, technology, health care, and most of all warfare, Jewish dominance over the goyim in the US is complete.

    It is no surprise that these same jews now want dominance over space. Clearly they cannot accomplish this themselves, so once again the stupid US goyim tax donkeys have been called up to finance another kosher project.

    As William Casey said: “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false”.

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  76. Z-man says:
    @Johnny Rico

    So lemme get this straight. They control Hollywood AND the weather? Jesus. This is serious.

    LOL!

    As much as I see a Jew behind every rock even I find your comments funny and true. However in Palestine ‘they’ are deliberately rerouting rivers to dry out the Palestinians, so they are controlling an aspect of weather there, just sayin’.

    Beware the power of the Satanic Cabal.

  77. Che Guava says:

    Another very good article, Dr. Giraldi.

    A very stupid move by Trump, likely leading to the U.S.A. abrogating the treaty against the militarisation of space.

    The U.S.A. Air Force already has the mysterious XB-37, I would guess that Russia and China have a better idea about its true intended role than anybody outside the U.S.A.F.

    IIRC, XB is the designation for ‘experimental bomber .’

    I am not against much of what Trump was campaigning on, but he seems to have little interest in it.

    As for uniforms, Starship Troopers is a much classier example than Star Trek, Verhoeven and his costume desgners seem to have a knack for prediction, look at the police outfits in Robocop, they are real now.

    The largely Third-Reich-based designs in Troopers were stylish, so my vote is for that.

    Not that the whole circus should go ahead at all.

  78. I respect how Heros wisely quoted William Casey:
    “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

    Hi Heros,

    Revealing how the Zionist Casey freely used the term “our disinformation.”

    Given correct memory, I believe Casey was near having to sit for a Congressional investigation that needed his testimony on unAmerican activities, the Reagan administration’s Iran-Contra transactions.

    Just prior to the hearing, Casey was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer and “departed.”

    Fyi, I am very disinclined to accept as truth anything I read in the controlled Jewish Corporate Media, and my cynicism is deep to a point where a high official under Congressional siege could get another identity and live on.

    Nonetheless, am a tad disappointed with the low comment-turnout to date on Mr. Giraldi’s very important article, “Space Command about to launch.”

    Knowing there’s lots of dimensions to space, length, breadth, depth, & likely dimensions which the current awareness level of the human mind has yet to comprehend, I want to add a consideration (factor) that augments that which Mr. Giraldi has Star trekked & shared, “Beam me up, Scotty.”

    Fact is “our” omnipresent Jewish Controllers are veritably doing 24/7-365 — but publicly not announcing — “Beam down on little (dumb goyim) Scotty and transmit everything he does!”

    Please, Hero, (below) consider looking at the Brother Nathanael’s brilliant beam upon the present (clandestine) surveillance-State ZUSA?

    http://brothernathanaelchannel.com/watch_video.php?v=1274

    Pardon my assigning homework, but you can investigate what’s openly operational right now, the 5G network!

    Population surveillance is a fact of life, and those domiciled in major cities, best example NYC, would be shocked at what is the abnormal “privacy” normal for them.

    Selah, yo Director Haspel…, beam down activities and updated profile including medical records on snotty non-Jew, Ray McGovern!

    • Replies: @Heros
  79. Heros says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    “consider looking at the Brother Nathanael’s brilliant beam”

    There is a small group of jews who I greatly respect for their willingness to truthfully discuss Jewish Power. At the head of that list would be Nathanael Krapner, Henry Makow, James Perloff and Ron Unz. I cannot think of a single Jewish woman I respect. Although I have had numerous jewish friends in my life, ever since my black pilling I doubt that I would have any respect for them now. I could really figure that out all I need to know about them with a few simple questions about the holohoax and the 9/11 false flag.

    Having Jews that I can respect is important to me because it serves as an anti-semitism sanity check. As long as there are Jews that I can hold in high esteem, then I can look myself in the mirror and say “you are not an “anti-semite””.

    “what’s openly operational right now, the 5G network!”

    5G is also an important aspect of this Trump Space Troopers propaganda spiel. As you say, 5G is bad news, and the infrastructures is being being built up right now. As a grandfather with young grand children I really fear what this will do to them. For me, a few years more or less is no longer relevant.

    It is important to note that this toxic microwave infrastructure has been in the planning for a long, long time. Debra Tavarra has been talking about it for years in No California, with loads of video about how they are hiding the transmitters and how high the microwave emissions are.

    The 5G network is also a key component in their planned mind control grid. This kind of band width will be needed to provide all goyim with their own Virtual Reality cinema inside their 500sq ft. Agenda 2030 high density shipping container living quarters. Every appliance and living creature will also be wired onto this total observation and mind control grid.

    Obviously whoever controls this 5G grid will have complete control over the narrative and the people. In the late 19th century, after getting ownership or control of the major printing houses, newspapers and news agencies (Reuters and UPI), Jewish Power achieved total control of the narrative, and has made sure to retain it ever since. Although its control has been weakened after the Internet and social media took root, Jewish Power has enacted measures to regain control. EU copyright/meme laws, right wing censorship at Youtube and Twitter, ACLU lists of hate sites, Ending Net Neutrality, etc. are all strong indicators that they are struggling to get full spectrum control of the internet. 5G would allow them that control and a far more oppressive surveillance state.

    This space force would be given jurisdiction over all the satellites, low and high orbit, that will be part of the 5G grid. The Kosher Nostra always likes to have muscle around for when they start extorting and blackmailing goyim. Having this space force created by the crypto-jew Trump gives the kosher nostra the advantage of populating the bureaucracy with their own people and spares them having to infiltrate it later.

  80. Yind says:

    ”TAKE WHAT I SAY in a different WAY

    and it’s EASY TO SAY

    that THIS is ALL CONFUSION

    as I see in a new day in me ?

    I can ALSO SHOW YOU

    THAT YOU MAY

    FOLLOW

    FOLLOW

    FOLLOW”

    https://cryptome.org/2015/02/wapo-BillCaseyHoneyPot.htm

  81. Sam Shama says:
    @Heros

    [Although I have had numerous jewish friends in my life, ever since my black pilling I doubt that I would have any respect for them now]

    The nimbostratus clouds permanently suspended over your head have been arranged to rain down on your inexactitudes by a system of kosher weather satellites.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Incitatus
  82. National security means making sure the investments of the oligarchy are secured by the nation. Gen. Smedley Butler had it right 80 years ago.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  83. gsjackson says:
    @Heros

    As an antidote to antisemitism I recommend the sport of handball, which Jews dominated for several decades and still have fairly substantial participation. You will meet many mensches (and a few total jackasses).

    When Jews participate at a high competitive level in a genuine meritocracy where you can’t lie your way to success, such as sports, the Jewish Supremacist conditioning is overcome and their good qualities shine through.

    I also never lose sight of the fact that probably at least a half of the soundtrack of my life was written by Jews, and my life would be much poorer without this music.

    PS: I think the r may have been inserted into Brother Nathanael’s last name by Hasbara or some such.

    • Replies: @Heros
  84. The thing to realize about Trump is that while his appeal to populism was enough to get him elected, it could not sustain him in power. For that you need the support of a significant portion of the oligarchy.

  85. @Heros

    Exhibiting principled conscience, Heros wrote:
    “Having Jews that I can respect is important to me because it serves as an anti-semitism sanity check.”

    No doubt, such attitude helps.

    However, given unlimited (united) billionaire Jews & their hydra-headed Lobby apparatus control over essential U.S. government faculties, the admirable names you mentioned (above) could be “Raptured” away, and you’d remain heroically innocent of anti-semitic charges.

    Most importantly though, I am so grateful for how you articulately connected the 5G network to “Trump Space Troopers.” Full disclosure, I had neither the knowledge nor foresight to comment as you did.

    Thanks very much, Heros!

  86. Anonymous[777] • Disclaimer says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    That boy-scout-tier wall of medals. That 1st Cavalry Insignia. That halting speech. That thousand-yard stare (“I was with the dropship operation back on Acheron; the Sulaco bughunt. We got out asses kicked.”). That golf ball trophy.

    I hope it’s serious.

    From “The Zap Gun” by Philip Kindred Dick:

    In the park in Festung Washington, D.C. the aged, feeble, shabbily dressed war veteran sat mumbling to himself and watching the children playing, and then he saw, making their way without haste down the wide gravel path, two second lieutenants from the Wes-bloc Air Arm Academy, youths of nineteen with clean, scrubbed, beardless but arrestingly, unusually intelligent faces.

    “Nice day,” the ancient hulk said to them, nodding.

    They paused briefly. That was enough.

    “I fought in the Big War,” the old man cackled, with pride. “You never saw combat but I did; I was main-man for a front-line T.W.G. Ever seen a T.W.G. recoil ’cause of an overload, when the input-line circuit-breaker fails, and the induction field shorts? Fortunately I was off a distance so I survived. Field hospital. I mean a ship. Red Cross. I was laid up months.”

    “Gee,” one of the shavetails said, out of deference.

    “Was that in the Callisto revolt six years ago?” the other asked.

    The ancient cobwebbed shape swayed with brittle mirth. “It was sixty-three years ago. I been running a fixit shop since. Until I got to bleeding internally and had to quit except for small work. Apt appliances. I’m a first-rate swibble man: I can fix a swibble that otherwise…” He wheezed, unable to breathe momentarily.

    “But sixty-three years ago!” the first shavetail said. He calculated. “Heck, that was during World War Two; that was 1940.” They then both stared at the old veteran.

    The hunched, dim, stick-like figure croaked, “No, that was 2005. I remember because my medal says so.” Shakily, he groped at his tattered great-cloak. It seemed to disintegrate as he poked at it, turning further into dust. He showed them a small metal star pinned to his faded shirt.

    Bending, the two young commissioned officers read the metal surface with its raised figures and letters.

    “Hey, Ben. It does say 2005.”

    “Yeah.” Both officers stared.

    “But that’s next year.”

    “Let me tell you about how we beat ‘em in the ‘Big War,’ ” the old vet wheezed, tickled to have an audience. “It was a long war; sheoot, it seemed like it’d never end. But what can you do against T.G. warp? And that’s what they found out. Were they surprised!” He giggled, wiped then at the saliva that had sputtered from his sunken lips. “We finally came up with it; of course we had all those failures.” With disgust he hawked, spat onto the gravel. “Those weapons designers didn’t know a thing. Stupid bastards.”

    “Who,” Ben said, “was the enemy?”

    It took a long time before the old veteran could grasp the nature of the question and when he did his disgust was so profound as to be overwhelming. He tottered to his feet, moved shufflingly away from the two young officers. “Them. The slavers from Sirius!”

    After a pause the other second lieutenant seated himself on the other side of the old war veteran and then, thoughtfully, he said to Ben, “I think…” He made a gesture.

    “Yeah,” Ben said. To the old man he said, “Pop. Listen. We’re going below.”

    “Below?” The old man cringed, confused and frightened.

    “The kremlin” Ben said. “Subsurface. Where UN-W Natsec, the Board, is meeting. General Nitz. Do you know who General George Nitz is?”

    Mumbling, the veteran pondered, tried to remember. “Well, he was way up there,” he said finally. “What year is this?” Ben said. The old man eyed him gleefully. “You can’t fool me. This is 2068. Or….” The momentarily bright eyes dimmed over, hesitantly. “No, it’s 2067; you were trying to catch me. But you didn’t, did you? Am I right? 2067?” He nudged the young second lieutenant.

    To his fellow officer, Ben said, “I’ll stay here with him. You get a mil-car, official. We don’t want to lose him.”

    “Right.” The officer rose, sprinted off in the direction of the kremlin’s surface-installations. And the funny thing was he kept thinking over and over again, inanely, as if it had any bearing: What the hell was a swibble?

  87. @Fran Macadam

    i take it you are not yet ready to give in and invest in gullets, bombs and guns.

  88. @Sam Shama

    Thus spake Sam Shama (downwardly) to Heros: “The nimbostratus clouds permanently suspended over your head have been arranged to rain down on your inexactitudes by a system of kosher weather satellites.”

    Hi Maven,

    Beam me up, Shammy, to your headless “kosher weather” satellite’s nimbostratus, all Zio-wet, exactitudes?

    (Zigh)

  89. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Sam,

    Suspect the Heros “Having Jews that I can respect is important to me because it serves as an anti-semitism sanity check. As long as there are Jews that I can hold in high esteem, then I can look myself in the mirror and say “you are not an “anti-semite”” ship sailed long ago and predictably foundered within seconds on fatal prejudice.

    In other words, sanity – if it ever existed in Hero’s life – is now a mime that allows regular offloading of foul tripe. He glories bathing in his own filth.

    As for DJT Space Cadets – Who sells Tang, the orange favorite? What franchises are up for grabs on extraterrestrial golf-courses?

    Best

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Sam Shama
  90. it'sme says:

    i like your articles. it’s as if you provide news and analysis without regard to tribal identity. in this day and age, that’s going to take some getting use to. but alas, you are only human, so there may be some room for marginal improvement. what i’m taking issue with is your assertion that washington dc has messed up the middle east. i would argue that the middle east was messed up, at least 90% by W. the idiot. the remaining 10% screw-up was done by obama, the light of the world. other than that, great article.

  91. jimk329 says:

    Excellent point. Trump is a distraction. He is nastier, but as shallow as Reagan. Mr. Reagan is the one who handed the two most vital organs of the US, the Pentagon and the State Department, to the Zionists, and America has been sinking ever since!

  92. Svigor says:
    @Heros

    There is a small group of jews who I greatly respect for their willingness to truthfully discuss Jewish Power. At the head of that list would be Nathanael Krapner, Henry Makow, James Perloff and Ron Unz. I cannot think of a single Jewish woman I respect. Although I have had numerous jewish friends in my life, ever since my black pilling I doubt that I would have any respect for them now. I could really figure that out all I need to know about them with a few simple questions about the holohoax and the 9/11 false flag.

    A much better litmus test is asking Jews if they acknowledge and support White gentiles’ right to have for themselves what Jews have in Israel. That will cut past a lot of the BS, but quick. I don’t doubt that a few would answer in the affirmative, but it would only be a very few.

  93. @Steve Naidamast

    …and yet, while struggling mightily to put a basic space station in orbit without Russia’s help, there’s large numbers of US citizens of reasonable intelligence who think the US flawlessly landed men on the moon in 1969 and 70. What hope is there for a nation filled with idiots of that caliber?

  94. Bliss says:

    The Space Force may well turn out to be Trump’s long term legacy.

    It is needed for a very good reason: shooting at and breaking into smaller, safer pieces large objects that are about to fall dangerously to earth. Like satellites, space stations, ICBMs, asteroids….

    • Replies: @Svigor
  95. Heros says:
    @gsjackson

    “half of the soundtrack of my life was written by Jews, and my life would be much poorer without this music.”

    Up thread, Yind linked to Starship Trooper by Yes. I hadn’t heard that song in years, and it brought back a wave of nostalgia for the ’70′s for both my wife and I. We listened to several Yes songs and reminisced about the College Dorms, where we met almost 40 years ago.

    I bring this up because we know that the entire electric rock and roll movement starting in about ’67 was a Tavistock MI6 mind control program. Wierd scenes in the canyon by Bruce McGowan goes deeply into this.

    Sargent Pepper by the Beatles was the real beginning of the electronic part of the “British Invasion”. After Paul McCartney was murdered and Billy Shears took over with all the electronic jingle ear worm music. This had all been researched through MKUltra. Simultaneous to Sgt Pepper, the CIA bought up all the LSD Sandoz could manufacture and gave it away in California. This new electronic music was designed by jewish psychologists to inflitrate and control goyim brains.

  96. Major defense contractors, all of whom were present to hear Trump’s speech, were immediately seen to be drooling over the prospect of a new cash cow.

    Naturally.

    Big government’s true role is forcing us fools to buy shit we don’t need or want even when we have to go into debt to do it. But hey, we’ve been told that debt is good!

  97. @Incitatus

    InZitatus beams up inside Maven Sam Shama’s “foul” black hole and barbarically profiles Heros thusly:
    “In other words, sanity – if it ever existed in Hero’s life – is now a mime that allows regular offloading of foul tripe. He glories bathing in his own filth.”

    So Heros’ “off loading foul tripe,” eh InZit?

    What about powerful Zionist Jews who can censor whatever thought AIPAC and Israel opposes? (Zigh)

    Given the Judaic-centric Corporate Media prejudice, Zionists presently have control over every dumb goyim American’s 1st amendment right including the filtered “Right to Know” law. (Zigh)

    So, InZit, it boils down to this: Give me Heros’ “foul tripe” or give me death-by-drowning in either the Potomac or Jordan River’s Occupied shore! (zZigh)

    For others here @ U.R. who opt to resist life in Zionist-regulated “Confined Space,” below is an important International Historical Review article that reveals how “filthy” You Tube’s TERRESTRIAL censors restrict the voice of IHR.

    http://ihr.org/other/RestrictionsYouTube

  98. geokat62 says:

    Apologies for this OT comment, but I just came across this innocuous tweet by Millennial Woes, and I felt compelled to share it with my fellow Unzers:

    In it, MW’s linked to a YouTube video with the following description:

    Published on Jun 26, 2018
    The Hungarian government has passed a bill that will give the state extraordinary powers to jail any individual or group seen to be promoting or supporting illegal migration – including help for asylum seekers.

    Emily Maitlis sits down with Hungary’s foreign minister Péter Szijjártó and asks him if he thinks Hungary and the EU could ever find compromise on the issue of migration.

    Newsnight is the BBC’s flagship news and current affairs TV programme – with analysis, debate, exclusives, and robust interviews.

    As is my wont, I DuckDuckGoed the name of the BBC interviewer, Emily Maitlis. Well, to my surprise, Wikipedia forgot to expunge the following personal information:

    From a Jewish family, Emily Maitlis is the daughter of Professor Peter Maitlis, FRS, Emeritus Professor of Inorganic Chemistry at the University of Sheffield, and Marion Maitlis.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Maitlis

    Every. Damn. Time.

    So, unbeknownst to her viewers, it turns out that (((Emily))) may not have been the objective journalist BBC viewers may have presumed her to be.

    The question I have is this: “when is the BBC planning on having (((Emily))) sit down with the Jewish state’s Minister of Foreign Affairs, Tzipi Hotovely, to conduct a similar interview in which she blatantly attacks her and her country of being “Xenophobic” because they ban and deport black African refugees from entering or remaining in the Jewish state?”

    Answer: “When hell freezes over.”

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Svigor
  99. When pies in the sky start going somewhat stale, it is time to turn people’s eyes to pies in space.

    Who cares about mundane things like roads, schools, airports, electricity and water infrastructures? Much of this earthly stuff will become obsolete as America launches itself into space.

    The Chinese will of course gladly finance the enterprise by buying even more US treasuries, and the Russians will gladly supply the rocket engines to help the US achieve total dominance of space, the stars, the moon, the sun, angels if any actually dwell there, and perhaps God himself. If you want to achieve big, think big! The thousand year Reich set its goals much too low and mundane.

    Whilst at it, why not also create an outer space command, a department for space security, and launch projects to bring freedom and democracy to all the galaxies out there? We got to tame them out there if we don’t want them to attack us here, right? Just think of the new recruitment posters that will have all of American teenagers lining up to enrol in these departments. The whole of the US will get starry-eyed – or should it be galactical-eyed?

    Scientists and the best of brains will flood into the US from Mexico, India, Russia, Africa to take part in the grand drive to create new realities. The economy will boom (as in BOOM?); even if it doesn’t, who cares about this miserable little planet – it is but a dot in the galaxy.

    Fools rush in where angels would fear to tread. And psychopaths see threats everywhere, even in space.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  100. @geokat62

    geokat discussed the work of journalist Emily Maitlis and hazards presented to BBC viewers:
    “So, unbeknownst to her viewers, it turns out that (((Emily))) may not have been the objective journalist BBC viewers may have presumed her to be.”

    “OT,” geokat? So be it!

    Your following question is great (!) & I’d like to see twins Maven Shama and InZitatus provide a typical stiltedZionist reply:
    : “when is the BBC planning on having (((Emily))) sit down with the Jewish state’s Minister of Foreign Affairs, Tzipi Hotovely, to conduct a similar interview in which she blatantly attacks her and her country of being “Xenophobic” because they ban and deport black African refugees from entering or remaining in the Jewish state?”

    In addition, in “OT” comment # 102, I beamed down upon powerful Zionist Jews who censor whatever thought processes AIPAC and Israel opposes.

    Thanks, geo!

    Selah, fyi, “hell freezes over” when the Synagogue of Satan goes Chapter 11, & it’s Prime Minister of Terror War (upon dumb goyim) has nothing left to do.

  101. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    Hi Incitatus!

    Quite. The “I know some good Jews” reminded me of the remark “My Blacks” – I forget who said it exactly, was it, McConnell?

    Sanity appears quite the rare commodity these days. Trade wars being ginned up with no folly spared have all the markers of a disaster in the offing. I do so wish Trump would leave the economy alone so that the tax deal has a whisper of a chance to raise productivity.

    On the Space Force malarky; it does rather have all the trappings of Star Wars 2.0 does it not? Came ‘entirely from the left field’ to use one of my favourite American expressions. It’s hard to fathom from hour to hour what’s on his mind. Well, I suppose, at the moment he is gloating at the prospect of placing someone very much on the right of Atilla the Hun in Kennedy’s old seat.

  102. Steve3455 says:

    Dietrich Bonhoeffer, the clergyman who defied the German Nazi regime and got executed for his resistance, once observed that “war is not the opposite of peace, ‘security’ is the opposite of peace.” I might also add it is the opposite of freedom and civilization as well, because both require trust.

    • Replies: @Wally
  103. fitzGetty says:

    … this gripping, true, inside story of the STAR WARS Programme is highly recommemded:

    DEATH RAYS AND DELUSIONS – Gerold Yonas …

  104. @Sam Shama

    Maven Shama’s Man-Love letter:
    “Hi Incitatus!
    Quite. The “I know some good Jews” reminded me of the remark “My Blacks” – I forget who said it exactly, was it, McConnell?”

    Hi Maven,

    You are so hypocritically comical, & I give you credit for unknown knowingly having that one non-virtue. Haha.

    (Zigh). Below is an RT video-report which provoked me to wonder something.

    (zzZigh)

    Does Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu know some good African (darky) Jews that he’d let sit at the right hand of ZUS’s Jerusalem-based Ambassador Friedman?

    (zzzZigh)

    Post scriptum: Evidently, hee-hee, you wrote goofy comment # 106 prior to your having read geokat’s serious one, # 103, on the topic of Jewess journalist Emily Maitlis’s hypocrisy.

    Selah, Maven Sam Shama & InZitatus, the ungrateful heirs to George Jetson’s (extended) Space family fortunes.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Sam Shama
  105. m___ says:
    @RobinG

    Thanks for the referencing to real data. A good starting point.

  106. Sam Shama says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Hello Woodchuck & Geokat [reluctantly, as we've been over this matter previously]

    Never more righteous than when you are in the wrong, as usual, aren’t you?

    I might easily ask: you the person who so passionately embraces Hungary’s policy [in contravention of EU agreements, one might add] to “protect” its people and culture from the inevitable destruction wrought by a great horde [consisting of 300 asylum seekers - oh heavens!] this year, then turns around, with no trace of detectable irony, and criticises Israel, a nation of population density four times that of Hungary and, a nation with a diversity which Hungary could not imagine.

    Israel has over 40,000 African asylum seekers. Of those, twenty thousand most likely resettles in other African countries with monetary payments made by Israel. The rest per the ruling of the Israeli Supreme Court have Temporary Protected Status, renewable every six months, and provided with healthcare and other facilities. They are allowed to work as well; most do. The vast majority will eventually obtain full residency. The Ultra-right in Israel wants no part of this deal, and are threatening Netanyahu with a break-up of the coalition which he can ill-afford at the moment given his other circumstances involving political corruption charges etc.

    Every bit of what I wrote above is true, today, on the ground, despite the bloody nonsense you might saturate yourselves with, from your predictable online haunts.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Svigor
  107. Sam Shama says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Can you perhaps dispense with the annoying “zzZighs”? Or at least keep them contained inside your rectum from which also escape the Selahs, Post Scriptums and other forms of bogus emissions?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  108. @Sam Shama

    Captain Maven Shama of The Starship Samson & Dimona does not like my zigh and selah emissions. Woe is me? Boo-hoo.

    Take heart, Shammy. The ZUS Space Command is “ready to launch” and eager to conquer infinity and beyond!

    (zzzZigh) The Military Industrial & Galactic Security Complex.

    Selah, please, please take American dumb (vagabond) goyim to stand before Israel’s al-Supremo leader! Selah, so they too can have have a shot at “Temporary Protected Status,” health care, and maybe an outside chance for, uh…., Oh yuck, selah, Israeli dual citizenship?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  109. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    Never more righteous than when you are in the wrong, as usual, aren’t you?

    LOL

    … and criticises Israel, a nation of population density four times that of Hungary and, a nation with a diversity which Hungary could not imagine.

    Oh, of course. You must be referring to the same immigration levels, ~26%, that Bret Stephens was referring to in one of my previous postings.

    Tell you what, leaving aside the figures for Jews making Aliyah each year, why don’t you tell us the number of non-Jews that immigrate into the Jewish state on an annual basis for the last couple of decades… just to demonstrate that high level of “diversity which Hungary [Sweden, England, France, Italy, etc. etc.] could only imagine?”

    Every bit of what I wrote above is true, today, on the ground…

    I think we all recall how truthful you are after that episode with Brother Nathanael.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Sam Shama
  110. Sam Shama says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    LOL. Just as I expected. Carry on. This piece is in need of comments, though understandably, the ratpack misses its usual feed.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  111. A long, long time ago, a man presented his Dream to America:

    And the Nation brought that Dream to fruition.

  112. @geokat62

    geokat62 tweaked Maven Sam Shama’s selective memory: “I think we all recall how truthful you are after that episode with Brother Nathanael.”

    I remember, geo! Thanks though.

    Selah, Close Encounters with Real Jew News.

  113. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    Tell you what, leaving aside the figures for Jews making Aliyah each year, why don’t you tell us the number of non-Jews that immigrate into the Jewish state on an annual basis for the last couple of decades… just to demonstrate that high level of “diversity which Hungary [Sweden, England, France, Italy, etc. etc.] could only imagine?”

    The quarrel and concern of our peripatetic Greco-Canadian, let it be said plainly, have to do with race and the colour of skin, have they not? something about an imaginary (dishonestly?) plaintive “prospect of white peoples preserving their existence”; religion, not a bit (or is it as well?).

    So by that yardstick, Israel shouldn’t even be spoken of in the same breath: European/American-born 32.1%; native Israeli-born 20.8%; African-born 14.6%; Asian-born 12.6% and 19.9% mostly Arab.

    How many of these ethnicities does Hungary feature?

    Bro Gnat? He lives in an alternate reality and is a tool of disinformation. He is also borderline schizophrenic. No one of sound mind takes him seriously.

    btw, have you back home in Canada, informed Justin Trudeau about your race-related – to term it mildly – eccentricities?

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @RobinG
  114. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    So by that yardstick, Israel shouldn’t even be spoken of in the same breath: European/American-born 32.1%; native Israeli-born 20.8%; African-born 14.6%; Asian-born 12.6% and 19.9% mostly Arab.

    How many of these people are non-Jews, Sam?

    Now, remember, try really, really hard to tell the truth, ok?

    btw, have you back home in Canada, informed Justin Trudeau about your race-related – to term it mildly – eccentricities?

    Funny, a member of the most ethno-centric peoples in the universe mocking others about eccentricities!

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  115. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    So you deny that race and skin colour are not your concerns? Answer that, please.

    How many Non-Christians in Hungary? I believe Christians of various denominations plus ex-Christian-turned-Atheists are approximately 95% of the population there, as I check quickly. Oh heavens, 5500 Muslims, making up 0.000568242% of the total population. Good grief! The skies are falling on your head!

    Non-Jews in Israel? Why that is about 20% of the population. Did you miss it earlier? Let’s see 20% is what multiple of 0.000568242%?…

  116. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama

    “Bro Gnat ….. is also borderline schizophrenic. ”

    This is your armchair diagnosis? Even if you were qualified, watching some videos isn’t adequate. Anyway, I’ve met the Bro. He’s sound (and singular) as a rock.

    Syria – It’s A Jungle Out There

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  117. geokat62 says:

    So you deny that race and skin colour are not your concerns? Answer that, please.

    My concern is for The Lobby to cease and desist its nefarious activities before it’s too late. I am an unapologetic nationalist who thinks that each ethnic group is entitled to self-determination. I oppose the policies of George Soros’ Open Society Foundation that are meant to undermine the principles of self determination. I oppose the policies of The ADL that promote the Big Lie that claims that Diversity Is Our Strength, meant to deceive The Dumb Goyim into believing that opening the borders to mass immigration will lead to a better future for Westerners… a patent lie that is borne out by the fact that they do not embrace these same policies for their beloved Jewish state. And,finally, I oppose The Lobby’s second Big Lie that the GWOT is being waged to enhance the security of The Dumb Goyim, when, in fact, the exact opposite is true – i.e., it is being waged to protect the residents of the villa in the jungle at the expense of The Dumb Goyim’s security.

    Oh heavens, 5500 Muslims, making up 0.000568242% of the total population. Good grief! The skies are falling on your head!

    Oh, I get it. Your argument is that it is simply a trickle, nothing over which to get worked into a lather, right? Isn’t that the same argument David Schwartz used in the 60s and 70s in Sweden. A little salt will enhance the flavour of the stew? Well, look at Sweden today. They are destined to become a minority in their own country. Why not try using your mathematical argument on the Swedes, Sam? What was it? Oh, yeah. I remember, “Let’s see 20% is what multiple of 0.000568242%?…”

    Non-Jews in Israel? Why that is about 20% of the population. Did you miss it earlier?

    No, I didn’t miss anything. As per your usual dissembling, my question was about non-Jewish immigrants, remember. And, as you well know, the indigenous population do not qualify as immigrants. So, let me try one more time, tell us, oh honest one, how many non-Jewish immigrants are there in Eretz Israel? Since, you will never furnish an honest answer to this basic question, I will do it for you. The answer is: virtually zero.

    Try stacking that number up against other goy nations when you and Bret make your deceptive comparisons.

  118. Wally says:
    @Steve3455

    Of theologian & German traitor, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, it could be said he “defied” the NS regime. And like the Allies, the Germans imprisoned & often executed traitors.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  119. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama

    Did you notice this post on a prior article? Have any thoughts?

    Grafström appears to be a Larouchie. They are known (especially the EIR crew) for serious scholarship, but also a dose of whack, which is why I take his accusations of Assange with a big grain of salt. This historical thesis is likely a combined effort. It’s much more realistic than [muh Jews], but crediting perfide Albion with ALL the scheming ignores everybody else’s designs. A key sentence, “The angloamericans is the only party which has a motive for the current [Mid-East] misery.” Probably not.

    [MORE]

    Peter Grafström says:

    April 19, 2018 at 3:30 pm GMT • 1,500 Words

    Disraeli, Bulwer Lytton and other associates of Palmerston began preparing the Israel project in the 1830s.
    But the plans were from the Napoleon era. He intended to develop Egypt basing himself on the ideas of the great German philosopher scientist Leibniz political economy.
    The British hated it and called Napoleon a Leibniz plagiarist. But of course this was because the British malthusians didnt want development anywhere. Development meant population growth and the rising of rivals. They wanted to maintain backwardness everywhere.

    Napoleon intended to stimulate jewish immigration in the concerned area in order to develop it. The British however wanted to block such plans and to prevent the then rivals of France and Russia to advance. Hence Britains intended use of the jews was to create a buffer state. A bridgehead for further colonization. The greater Israel project may be seen as a natural extension of that bridgehead.

    Simultaneously with Disraelis zionist writings Bulwer Lytton began pitting the Germans against the jews with his novel Rienzi. It inspired Rickard Wagner in an Opera which became precious for Hitler much later. It concerns a 13th century germanic hero struggling against corrupt jewish nobility.

    Wagner had already at a young age been recruited to Young Germany, a branch of Britains extensive network of regimechange activities directed against Britains rivals all over the world. (There were branches all over the continent and other branches in north and south america).
    Wagner became a revolutionary. Took part handing weapons to the revolutionaries in 1848 but escaped punishment claiming he was aiming towards cultural critique.
    His corevolutionary friend ended up in prison.

    Wagner was in his prose influenced by fascist ideologue Thomas Carlyle, who is also known for the advice to use lethal chambers to exterminate inferior races. India was the intended target.

    But Wagner and the followers of the Wagner-cult were cautious about speaking clearly about their aims. They would say something like: ‘We dont talk about it but we know what needs to be done’.
    It took the career of Houston Steward Chamberlain (HSC) to bring Wagners message to the German establishment. This elder cousin of Neville, was the pathbreaker and visionary of nazism according to Goebbels. Hitler, Himmler and Goebbels were all educated to ‘jewwiseness’ by this Britton. His book Foundations of the 19th century was sold in large editions. And the writer both influenced the Kaiser and the nazis.

    HSC explicitly encouraged the Germans to prevent jewish assimilation and to exterminate them, saying they ought to do the jews what the Romans did to the chartagaens.

    His career took place in parallell with the establishment of Britains secret elite which was founded by Cecil Rhodes and was in reality Britains real masters. They and Edward VII were the masterminds of WWI.
    This makes it impossible to believe the secret elite didnt approve of HSC’s role.
    HSC just like Lawrence of Arabia was an agent of influence and just like Lawrence he gained respect and affection from his targeted people and managed to drag them into misery.

    An eyewitness said HSC in addition aided Hitler with the proofreading of Mein Kampf.
    I think what many critics of/believers in jewish power fail to understand is that the jews were both partners and rivals with the British oligarchy.
    Since they were also rivals they were subjected to Britains power of balance strategy; ie they were being played against Britains rivals – being made stooges in Britains interference among the rivals – and the rivals were being played against the jews.
    For example an important period was when Bismarck in preparation for his struggle to unite Germany, he asked the Rothschilds for a suitable local banker and followed the advice.
    Thus it may be said that he united Germany with the understanding of the Rothschilds.

    Germany was a huge threat to Britains hegemonic plans. Had they been allowed to continue with their trade, British near monopoly in banking would have been finished. The only option for the Rothschilds and others would have been to join the Germans. The center of inertia of finance would have moved to the continent. The British understood that and this explains their intense efforts to prevent the jews from assimilation in Germany together with Britains plans for locking Germany into a twofront war.

    Edward VII was crowned in 1901 but long before interfered in France and Germany.
    Being a relative of the young Kaiser, he managed to fool him to remove Bismarck from power.
    And by arranging the Dreyfuss affaire in France the British managed to get rid of Gabriel Hanotaux, a progressive politician with respect to the colonial areas and one who understood Germany’s position.
    In Russia the British got Iswolsky , ambassador to Paris, as ‘their’ man.
    Edward VII later bragged about how he could dupe the French, flattering their vanity.
    He probably felt the same about duping all rivals and allies.

    After the jews were emancipated in Germany in 1869 things looked very bright for the jews. So it is logical that the British thereafter took strong measures against them.
    The earlier mentioned Bulwer Lytton entered the scene again, publishing in 1871 ‘On the coming race’ and in collaboration with Helen P Blatavsky created the cults which formed the occult background of nazism.
    Blatavsky happened to be the elder cousin of russias Sergei Witte. Neither Witte nor his father believed in her magic but Witte posthumously gave her a little bit of recognition by saying there does exist some spiritual phenomena. This mentioned to indicate that there was no serious Russian backing of Blatavsky’s actions in Germany.
    However the British probably hoped to taint the Russians through this association in order to make Bulwer Lytton less noticed.

    The Protocols which appeared to be the work of Russians goes well together with a conspiracy theory of Russians who plotted against the jews. While in reality the British had all the cards on hand with their vast influence over freemasonry. With Edward the top freemason. It was an associate of Edward who had the Protocols translated.
    But the russian freemason Sergei Nilus brought the source material together when Edward was crowned and then published it in 1904.
    Jacob Schiff who was not to adhere to zionism until 1916, still dared to sponsor the failed Russian revolution in 1905.
    Why did the jewish bankers so openly act in this manner? Because comunism had been a jewish project from the beginning the reader would say?
    True but that jewish project was a British project. The British Israel project from early 19th century was an obvious reason to recruite jewish activists.
    A German historian noted that a new role played by the jews on the continent could be dated to 1808.

    Due to the Young Europe network and the Israel project the jews became the natural choice for Britain both because they would get the blame, be hated and more easily also be led to exaggerate the role of Britains rivals. Marx was a dupe and was for a time even of the opinion that Palmerston was a Russian spy.

    The illuminati was formally founded in 1776 by a jew in a jesuite German university. But soon acted as Britains stooge against France.

    Since the continental freemasons were divided with respect to England such an addition as iluminati was needed for Britain so it was probably just another branch of Britains secret networks, in collusion with the rivals of the French monarchy. Illuminati was forbidden but they probably used a front to launch communism.

    There are many jewish strands among Europes nobility and monarchies but where lies their loyalty?
    Israel as it appears today is an angloamerican colony. This may change in the future but if it does the Israelies cannot remain a rogue state. Currently they are rewarded for being a troublemaker. Rewarded for not collaborating with the rivals of the angloamerican empire.

    Iran would be a natural partner but is instead an object of demonisation.
    The whole era of rising islamism was designed by the British. And the angloamericans ousted the shah and inserted the muslim brotherhood Khomeini. But secular or Islamic Iran, they seem to be pragmatic.

    If the jewish bankers are as powerful as many seem to assume they could have brought prosperity to the whole ME. But that would have meant that a new rival economy had risen.

    The angloamericans is the only party which has a motive for the current misery.

    The 19th century saw Britain create both Christian zionism and and the zionist B’nai B’rit.
    The Lobby and ADL spawned from there.
    The Frankfurt School emerged after WWI when Germany was weak and under foreign influence while Britains deep state was busy planning the coming clash between her rivals.

    Every piece of what we see now is the work of the hegemonic empire. By proxy.
    Illuminati, Skull and Bones , the Frankfurt School. All conveniently given birth in Germany.
    Zionism communism nazism and current islamism all came about for Britains followed by angloamericas geopolitical projects.

  120. Sam Shama says:
    @RobinG

    This is your armchair diagnosis? Even if you were qualified, watching some videos isn’t adequate. Anyway, I’ve met the Bro. He’s sound (and singular) as a rock.

    Michaelmas half, 1992; a group of precocious pupils embarked upon a three-week-long tour of America with their House Master. Among other unorthodox studies during this mission, they counted as singular distinction, a visit to a certain facility in the Midwest to meet a certain inmate.

    Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer was wholly sound of mind, or so thought, the boys.

  121. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Hi Sam,

    “’My Blacks’ – I forget who said it exactly”

    If it wasn’t McConnell, it should have been (mint julep in hand).

    “Trade wars being ginned up with no folly spared have all the markers of a disaster in the offing.”

    Peter Navarro’s the prince of folly, judging from his Trudeau hissy-fit. Does he have a legitimate following? Aside from Wilbur Ross (who seems to suffer disclosure and divestment Attention Deficit Disorder)?

    “Space Force…Star Wars 2.0… It’s hard to fathom from hour to hour what’s on his mind.”

    DJT seems an early adaptor to media fantasy ethos. From ‘Queen for a Day’ and ‘Star Trek’ to ‘Miss America’, World Wrestling Entertainment, ‘The Apprentice’, etc. Mastered a hard-core minority by factional sensationalism, seasoned with a little scapegoating. Certainly talented in a unique way. If he watches five hours of TV daily and endlessly criticizes content, one has to wonder if ‘reality’ is any longer a shared concept.

    Defense contractors must be licking their chops for a Trump Space Force. Academics too. We’ll need a new service academy like West Point and Annapolis. Space Force University? Staffed by Trump University alumni?

    “the prospect of placing someone very much on the right of Atilla the Hun in Kennedy’s old seat”

    Wouldn’t be surprised if he nominated Judge Roy Moore. Imagine the media squeals! Joe and Mika apoplectic, Fox (great female legs on couches) sober ‘no-spin’ support. Effusive delight from Wayne LaPierre, Ollie North and the boys at the NRA. Same inspiring ‘dead-man-walking’ opposition from Democrats.

    Does ‘National Enquirer’ have a reporter in the White House Press Corps? It may be the most authoritative source for what’s on the horizon. Next month a MAGA Voyage to the Center of the Earth?

    Best

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  122. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    “theologian & German traitor, Dietrich Bonhoeffer”

    How did Bonhoeffer betray his country? Be specific.

    What about Martin Niemöller? Arrested 1937, by which time 700 Protestant clergy were imprisoned. What about the 2,579 Roman Catholic priests held at Dachau? What was their crime?

    “it could be said he [Bonhoeffer] “defied” the NS regime”

    You mean Hitler’s attempt to fuse National Socialism with Christianity in a Reich Church? ‘German Christians’ formed Spring 1932 under Reich Bishop and Nazi-in-good-standing Ludwig Müller? With snappy slogans like “We are Storm Troopers of Jesus Christ” and “One Volk, One Reich, One Church”? It attracted 600,000 members at its peak, despite imprisoning the competition. Bitter disappointment to Hitler, Rosenberg and Göbbels.

    They tried their best instill wholesome traditional values, mind you. Take these Hitler Youth songs:

    “We are the happy Hitler Youth. We need no Christian virtues for our Führer Adolf Hitler is always our guide…We do not follow Christ but Horst Wessel…I can do without the Church, the Swastika is redemption on earth”
    -Hitlerjugend Lied 1935

    “Pope and rabbi shall yield, we want to be pagans again…out with the Jews and with the pope from the German home”
    -Hitlerjugend Lied 1935

    Not bad, eh Wally? State-sponsored Führer-worship and paganism injected directly into little kids. Not what most would call “Christian family values”, but nobody’s perfect. You’d think clerics would understand.

    “like the Allies, the Germans imprisoned & often executed traitors.”

    Please name clerics imprisoned and executed by the Allies. Be specific.

    Bonus question (10 points):

    On 14 Jul 1933 Nazis enacted the Law for the Prevention of Genetically Diseased Offspring (Gesetz zur Verhütung erbkranken Nachwuchses). It required compulsory sterilization of citizens suffering from hereditary diseases and deformities. Why wasn’t clubfoot Joe Göbbels sterilized?

  123. Svigor says:
    @Bliss

    It’s mostly a satellite thing. Anti-satellite warfare, countermeasures against same, etc.

  124. Svigor says:
    @geokat62

    Another confirmed success for my Jewdar. I didn’t even bother looking her up.

  125. Svigor says:
    @seeing-thru

    Past performance is no guarantee of future success, or failure.

    Just because the space program has effectively been on hold since the sixties, doesn’t mean it always will be. SpaceX has launch costs dropping like a rock. That’s what is getting us off “hold” and into space colonization.

    P.S., US using Russian rockets is yesterday’s news.

  126. Svigor says:
    @Sam Shama

    Actually “Space Force” has been in the space news for many months. It’s not Trump’s fault you don’t read those sources.

  127. Svigor says:
    @Sam Shama

    I might easily ask: you the person who so passionately embraces Hungary’s policy [in contravention of EU agreements, one might add] to “protect” its people and culture from the inevitable destruction wrought by a great horde [consisting of 300 asylum seekers - oh heavens!] this year, then turns around, with no trace of detectable irony, and criticises Israel, a nation of population density four times that of Hungary and, a nation with a diversity which Hungary could not imagine.

    That’s because, genius:

    1. Hungarian nationalists don’t have political hegemony in America; Zionists do.
    2. Hungarian nationalists don’t form the vanguard preventing White Americans from even countenancing Whites having for themselves what Jews have for themselves in Israel; diaspora Jews do.
    3. Hungarians aren’t the vanguard of the open-borders-for-America movement; diaspora Jews are.
    4. Hungarians aren’t extremely powerful hypocrites, supporting closed borders and ethnonationalism for Jews in Israel, and opposing closed borders and ethnonationalism for Whites; diaspora Jews are.
    5. Etc. You’ve had all of this explained before.

    Jewish genius = strategically feigning obtuseness, forgetfulness, etc.

    Jews: turn the ship around on your aggregate behavior, see less criticism. A revolutionary idea, I know.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  128. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    Hi Incitatus
    LOL. Great Post. I can’t stop an image from incessantly cycling through the mind’s eye: McConnell, mint julep in hand, Roy Moore in tow, surveying the judicial landscape, impish grins spread across both faces relishing the prospect of Roe V. Wade, civil liberties, etc, placed on the butcher’s block

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  129. Sam Shama says:
    @Svigor

    You offer a few muddled and repetitious points. My observations:

    1. Zionists have political influence, which hardly rises to the station of “hegemony”. On that score, I am keenly aware you believe otherwise, which, therefore, confers on you the burden of mobilising Whites to recapture that “hegemony”. I am pleased to wager that you won’t find much purchase for your sentiments in America.

    2. No one is preventing Whites from having whatever they should wish and work for. Your plight stems from most Whites not being in the least bit troubled by your personal demons.

    3. The answer to Israel’s ethnic mix was amply evident in the numbers provided in #118. Religion was not the true basis of geokat’s quarrel; race and skin-colour were. Even so, Israel’s religious mix would make Hungary look fossilised, to say nothing of racial diversity. No one with half a brain intact mistakes cries of “Nationalism” from your crowd as anything but a racist dogma barely contained beneath the surface. Your “Nationalist” type, truth be told, does not consider Blacks or Latinos, American, or ethnic Turkish citizens in Hungary, Hungarian.

    4. I do not need anything explained to me by scatterbrained racists. If Hypocrisy is the mantle you place over my crown, I am equally prepared to honour you with the dubious distinction of empty-skulled impotentates [a word I coined just now].

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @geokat62
  130. Svigor says:
    @Sam Shama

    1. Zionists have political influence, which hardly rises to the station of “hegemony”. On that score, I am keenly aware you believe otherwise, which, therefore, confers on you the burden of mobilising Whites to recapture that “hegemony”. I am pleased to wager that you won’t find much purchase for your sentiments in America.

    Who are the top 5 anti-Zionist Congresscritters?
    Who are the top 5 anti-Zionists with their own (((Big Media))) TV shows?

    The American political establishment is Zionist from top to bottom. Everyone without mutton for a head knows this. American pols keep kneepads behind glass labeled “break in case of Bibi.”

    2. No one is preventing Whites from having whatever they should wish and work for. Your plight stems from most Whites not being in the least bit troubled by your personal demons.

    Jews are the leadership working to ensure that Whites never have for themselves what Jews have for themselves in Israel.

    3. The answer to Israel’s ethnic mix was amply evident in the numbers provided in #118. Religion was not the true basis of geokat’s quarrel; race and skin-colour were. Even so, Israel’s religious mix would make Hungary look fossilised, to say nothing of racial diversity. No one with half a brain intact mistakes cries of “Nationalism” from your crowd as anything but a racist dogma barely contained beneath the surface. Your “Nationalist” type, truth be told, does not consider Blacks or Latinos, American, or ethnic Turkish citizens in Hungary, Hungarian.

    I can’t even figure out what this gibberish is supposed to mean, or how it’s supposed to be relevant.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  131. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Sam,

    ‘Senator McConnell’ always conjures the image and mannerisms of Colonel Sanders (ala Kentucky Fried Chicken). White planter suit, broad-brimmed hat, weak-chin goatee and unconvincing sales pitch. Then again, beardless Mitch looks more like Toby Turtle, and what he delivers is rarely worth a bucket of greasy chicken.

    Sometimes it’s downright poison. “Free speech” defense of unrestricted, unlimited and undisclosed campaign donations? Obfuscation of pragmatic health care debate with costs double or triple what others pay? Sponsoring NSA warrantless eavesdropping? Supporting the Saudi-led war in Yemen?

    At least he’s way ahead of the crowd trying to clone himself:

    “Founded in 1991, the McConnell Center at the University of Louisville seeks to identify, recruit and nurture Kentucky’s next generation of great leaders”.

    http://louisville.edu/mcconnellcenter/about/

    Presumably, like Mitch, students gorge on political science to find the cure for humanity. Helped by a ‘McConnell Scholars Program’, ‘U.S. Senator Mitch McConnell and Secretary Elaine L. Chao Archives’, civic education gallery, and an outreach program. Can any fail to blossom into a Next-Gen Toby?

    On second thought, a public-service institute immortalizing pure mediocrity?

    Reach for the pitchforks!

  132. Sam Shama says:
    @Svigor

    I can’t even figure out what this gibberish is supposed to mean, or how it’s supposed to be relevant.

    Its written in English. That you don’t understand the context is on account of your habit of jumping into the fray without reading the thread, in this case, my previous exchanges with Geokat. Read it carefully and you might understand.

  133. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    If Hypocrisy is the mantle you place over my crown…

    Hypocrisy? Whatever gave you that idea? Just because you vociferously defend the right of the Jewish state to remain predominantly Jewish, and call all others who advocate for the same policy for Western Nations “racists,” that’s not hypocrisy. Nah, that is the height of consistency, if you’re a top-notch dissembler, that is.

    Just to help you out on your future postings, Zionism BY DEFINITION is “racism”:

    United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379*

    United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379, adopted on 10 November 1975 by a vote of 72 to 35, “determine[d] that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination”. The vote took place approximately one year after UNGA 3237 granted the PLO “observer status”, following PLO president Yasser Arafat’s “olive branch” speech to the General Assembly in November 1974. The resolution was passed with the support of the Soviet bloc and other then Soviet-aligned nations, in addition to the Arab and Muslim majority countries.

    * United Nations General Assembly Resolution 46/86, adopted on 16 December 1991, revoked the determination in Resolution 3379, which had called Zionism a form of racism. Israel had made revocation of Resolution 3379 a condition of its participation in the Madrid Peace Conference, in progress in the last quarter of 1991.

    The resolution was raised under pressure from the administration of US President George H.W. Bush.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_3379

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  134. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    Just because you vociferously defend the right of the Jewish state to remain predominantly Jewish, and call all others who advocate for the same policy for Western Nations “racists,” that’s not hypocrisy.

    Ah, the penny just dropped; I follow. It appears you’d endorse Israel’s retention of a Jewish majority if only America were to firmly keep a Christian majority. Well, one doesn’t see a problem on that score, does one? All the Latins are devout Christians.

    I am so glad we see eye to eye on the subject, finally!

    • Replies: @geokat62
  135. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    It appears you’d endorse Israel’s retention of a Jewish majority if only America were to firmly keep a Christian majority.

    Not prepared to go through all your prior postings, but please remind everyone what your position is on whether Jews are simply a religious community or do they make up a distinct people or race, or both? My sense is your answer might depend on who is asking the question, as Brother Nathanael admonished us Dumb Goyim.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @ChuckOrloski
  136. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    Judaism is the religion followed by a majority of citizens in the State of Israel. There are dozens of sects.

    Whether Jews are a distinct race remains an enigmatic question. A spectrum of Jews shares genes with Italians, Germans, East Europeans and Levantines, while others have more in common with Eastern peoples [Yemenis, Indians, Moroccans etc]. The Falashas are African. What does one conclude from all of this? The broad conclusion must be that the Jewish religion over the arc of history had spread to disparate racial groups. It was never a proselytising religion and thus never grew in size like Christianity or Islam.

    Are these people of the same “race”, Geokat?

    Ashkenazis:

    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d4545a40ac098293d4d49351392ec805-c

    Yemenis:

    Ethiopians:

    https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy/t_Article2016_ControlFaceDetect/401729

    Indians:

    Moroccans:

    Native born Israelis:

    https://vice-images.vice.com/images/content-images-crops/2016/07/07/stories-of-people-faking-psychological-illness-to-get-out-of-the-israeli-defence-forece-body-image-1467902365-size_1000.jpg?output-quality=75

    Israeli kids:

    What do you think?

    Bro Gnat is a bipolar, borderline schizophrenic, disinformation agent. He knows nothing about the Jewish religion.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  137. @geokat62

    geokat62 offered the following sound & generous reasoning to Sam Shama:
    “My sense is your answer might depend on who is asking the question, as Brother Nathanael admonished us Dumb Goyim.”

    Hi geo,

    Were the Maven Sham less arrogant & “stiff-necked,” he would have constructively taken Brother Nathanael’s comments to heart. As expected, he did not.

    Fyi, Thursday was the Catholic feast in honor of Saints Peter & Paul. The gospel featured The Christ’s having asked his disciples, “Who do you think I am?”

    Brother Nathanael knew who is Sam Shama and so do we. A deceptively articulate phoney.

    Thank so much, geo! Your aim is true and Maven regrettably cannot see that.

    Selah, Sam Shama’s Close Encounter of The Trinity Kind with Real Jew News.

  138. geokat62 says:

    As one member of The Lobby boasts about being a “partner” in organizing the latest marches:

    … another member warns The Dumb Goyim to not get carried away:

    Before the Left jumps on this latest anti-Trump bandwagon [“No Border, No Nations, No Deportation” read the signs of protesters at a rally in NYC to abolish ICE], it should take a realistic look at the long-term implications of this latest “progressive” idea.

    https://clarionproject.org/ice-on-the-rocks/

    And we all know what long-term implications The Clarion Project (don’t you just love the innocuous-sounding names they come up with) is concerned about. What would “No Border, No Nations, No Deportation” mean for the future of their beloved pet project?

    So, as can be seen, The Lobby has to walk a precarious tight rope: get The Dumb Goyim to support the destruction of their own states, but keep them far away from supporting the destruction of the Jewish state. Tough task, but their up to it!

  139. anarchyst says:
    @Biff

    OK, Biff…
    Here’s one for you…from someone who served and has studied the Vietnam situation intensely…
    It is obvious that you swallowed the Ken Burns “documentary” on Vietnam, lock, stock and barrel. This “documentary” was communist propaganda–PERIOD!
    For those of us who lived through the Vietnam war, as well as those of us who served, it was obvious that the North Vietnamese communists INVADED South Vietnam. It is not obvious to most that there are subtle language differences as well as ideological differences, the communists wanting ALL of Vietnam “by any means necessary”. It was a pure INVASION by the North…
    The communist “fifth column” here in the United States was alive and well, with the American “mainstream media” firmly entrenched on the side of the communists.
    A good example of media malpractice was communist sympathizer Walter Cronkite’s assertion that the 1968 TET offensive was a military loss for the South Vietnamese and American forces. In reality, the TET offensive was a violation of a mutually-agreed-upon “cease-fire” during the Vietnamese lunar New Year–a practice which allowed the Vietnamese to get together with their families and celebrate their ancestors, that was in effect for most of the war. Of course, the American “mainstream media” did not report honestly. The TET offensive resulted in the decimation of the Viet Cong infrastructure, and was an outright slaughter, after which North Vietnamese troops were used against American and South Vietnamese forces, from which the Viet Cong never recovered. North Vietnamese General Giap remarked that his successes were due to the American mainstream media being on “his side”, which was instrumental in giving the communists “new resolve” to fight on…
    Us American troops were denigrated, both in the field and at home, being labeled as “baby killers”, unstable, mentally-defective individuals and worse. Coming home and being shunned by our civilian countrymen was another aspect that no one (especially the anti-war protesters) wants to talk about, even today.
    The “anti-war protesters” were only concerned with saving their own skins from the draft–nothing more. Their phony concern for the Vietnamese was apparent. They were being handled by communist sympathizers and were too stupid to realize that. After the draft was abandoned, the “anti-war” protesters “melted into the woodwork” only to become leaders in our left-wing educational and media institutions, the present result in those institutions, being problems that exist to this day. It is interesting to note that there are many (former) anti-Vietnam war protesters who even now, hide their communist affiliation and claim to have served. Of course, they are “outed” with regularity. Their guilt for their actions is finally getting to them. It is also interesting to note that there was “not a peep” from these “anti-war” protesters when Vietnamese “boat people” risked lives and limbs to escape that “communist paradise”
    Laws were passed that (were supposed to) give preference to Vietnam veterans when it came to federal jobs. These jobs never materialized, as most federal hiring managers were non-veterans and reserved spots for their cronies–Vietnam veterans be damned.
    American forces were successful in EVERY battle, but were forced to fight the war with “one hand tied behind their (our) backs”.
    Ken Burns’ “documentaries” rank up there with Michael Moore’s “schlockumentaries”, weaving his communist sympathizer bias with (fake) compassion for the Vietnamese who were caught up in that war. Ken Burns’ “let it slip” when it came to claims by the communists that “re-education” would take about six months. In reality, according to a “detainee” that went through the “re-education” program, he was incarcerated for over twenty years.
    If you want to hear from actual South Vietnamese who were involved in the war, visit the expatriate Vietnamese communities in Garden Grove and Westminster California. THEY have some harrowing stories to tell, unlike the lies that the mainstream media still propagates…

  140. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    Judaism is the religion followed by a majority of citizens in the State of Israel. There are dozens of sects.

    Oh, I see. The founders of the Jewish state, all atheists mind you, were keen on establishing a homeland where people of diverse ethnicities could practice the same religion? Got it.

    Whether Jews are a distinct race remains an enigmatic question… What do you think?

    What I think is immaterial. What counts is what Jewish leadership thinks. Let’s take a look, shall we:

    Benjamin Netanyahu, who has served as Israel’s prime minister, frankly regards Jews as members of a racial group. Speaking to a gathering of nearly a thousand Jews in southern California, he said: “If Israel had not come into existence after World War II than [sic] I am certain the Jewish race wouldn’t have survived.” (Daily Pilot, Newport Beach/Costa Mesa, Feb. 28, 2000, front page)

    The Israeli leader went on to exhort his audience: “I stand before you and say you must strengthen your commitment to Israel. You must become leaders and stand up as Jews. We must be proud of our past to be confident of our future.” (Similarly forthright appeals by non-Jews to racial-ethnic pride are, of course, routinely condemned as “racist” or “neo-Nazi.”)

    Echoing Netanyahu, an influential Jewish community paper with a nationwide readership referred to Jews as a racial group. An editorial entitled “Some Other Race” in the March 17, 2000, issue of the New York weekly Forward urged readers to fill out the federal government census form. It goes on to suggest: “… On question eight [of the form, which asks about race], you might consider doing what more than one member of our redaktzia [editorial staff] has done: checking the box ‘some other race’ and writing in the word ‘Jew’.”

    Charles Bronfman, a main sponsor of the $210 million “Birthright Israel” project to “sell Jewishness” to American Jews, expressed a similar sentiment. He is co-chairman of the powerful Seagram company, and brother of Edgar Bronfman, Sr., president of the World Jewish Congress. “You can live a perfectly decent life not being Jewish,” said Charles Bronfman, “but I think you’re losing a lot — losing the kind of feeling you have when you know [that] throughout the world there are people who somehow or other have the same kind of DNA that you have.” (“Project Reminds Young Jews of Heritage,” The Washington Post, Jan. 17, 2000, p. A19)

    Theodor Herzl, the founder of the modern Zionist movement, stressed in his seminal book Der Judenstaat (“The Jewish State”), published in 1896, that Jews around the world constitute a Volk, that is, a people or nationality, with interests different than those of the non-Jews among whom they live. Accordingly, Israeli political figures and Jewish community leaders in the United States routinely speak of “the Jewish people.”

    Consistent with that, Jewish leaders express alarm that so many Jews are marrying non-Jews (an attitude that is denounced as “racist” if expressed by non-Jews). Charles S. Liebman, a professor at Bar-Ilan University in Israel, bluntly declares that intermarriage “violates the most basic norms of Judaism [and] threatens Jewish survival.” (Los Angeles Times, April 17, 2000)

    For decades a small number of American Jews — notably Alfred Lilienthal, author of The Zionist Connection, and Rabbi Elmer Berger, leader of the American Council for Judaism — worked hard to persuade fellow Jews to reject Jewish nationalism (Zionism), and instead regard themselves essentially as a religious group. Overwhelmingly, though, Jews have rejected such pleas. Indeed, some of the most prominent Jewish personalities of the past century — including Albert Einstein, Ilya Ehrenburg, and Israel’s first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion — have been non-religious.

    https://nationalvanguard.org/2018/06/jews-a-religious-community-a-people-or-a-race/

    As far as my opinion is concerned, I have an anecdotal story to pass along. I recently attended an event, where one of our co-hosts, with visible pride, informed the small gathering that the test they took indicated that they were 97% Jewish.

    As you not doubt are aware, 23andMe, the personal genomics company, was co-founded by Anne Wojcicki (who happens to be Jewish). For some reason, Anne felt it necessary to include Jewish as one of the categories in her autosomal DNA testing for ancestry. Strange that, eh?

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  141. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    Yes, I am aware of the autosomal DNA linkage. What does that mean? Most likely that a common ancestry from the area of the Levant places many Jews and others in that part of the world. Here is another piece of information for you: many Russian Jews have not tested positive, nor Ethiopians. So? Does that mean they are not practising Jews? They most certainly are. Moreover, Jewish Aliyah does not require any genetic test. So let me ask: are you proposing some “whiteness” gene test for inhabitants in America and elsewhere?

    Consistent with that, Jewish leaders express alarm that so many Jews are marrying non-Jews (an attitude that is denounced as “racist” if expressed by non-Jews). Charles S. Liebman, a professor at Bar-Ilan University in Israel, bluntly declares that intermarriage “violates the most basic norms of Judaism [and] threatens Jewish survival.” (Los Angeles Times, April 17, 2000)

    Yes, very intimately familiar with this line of thinking. I couldn’t give a tuppence for that nonsense.

    For decades a small number of American Jews — notably Alfred Lilienthal, author of The Zionist Connection, and Rabbi Elmer Berger, leader of the American Council for Judaism — worked hard to persuade fellow Jews to reject Jewish nationalism (Zionism), and instead regard themselves essentially as a religious group. Overwhelmingly, though, Jews have rejected such pleas. Indeed, some of the most prominent Jewish personalities of the past century — including Albert Einstein, Ilya Ehrenburg, and Israel’s first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion — have been non-religious.

    To mind, Jews are a religious group with a long unbroken tradition and membership. Because it isn’t proselytising, it has naturally inherited ancient bloodlines. That is the most logical conclusion. Jewish males who came to Europe took native wives. Those women were converted to Judaism and their progeny automatically inherited the religion. Thus was born the tradition of matrilineal inheritance of Judaism. That tradition interestingly did not exist among Yemeni Jews who, for centuries remained in their local geographies. So, the point of telling all this is that the non-proselytising nature of the faith required a mode of preserving the religious corpus. Is it therefore so hard to understand that many Jews share an autosomal component? It is equally true that many don’t.

    Last observation: I am not religious in the sense of being particularly observant of the myriad Halachic requirements. However, I believe in observing the Sabbath particularly in today’s unrelenting world of constant activity and information overload, prayer if mostly to train, focus, and rest the mind. It is in my gift to my family, the same arrangement and principles. Are we Jewish? Many Orthodox wouldn’t say so. I am unmoved.

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  142. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    So let me ask: are you proposing some “whiteness” gene test for inhabitants in America and elsewhere?

    I am proposing to reverse the policies that The Lobby has relentlessly been pursuing in their efforts to stamp out antisemitism in Western nations. They are pushing multiculturalism in these countries, while they vehemently defend their right to an ethnostate in the Promised Land. So, bottom line, there are to be no ethno states in this world, except one… a Jewish one. And you’re ok with this?

    And you wonder why we place the mantle of Hypocrisy on your crown, sheesh!

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  143. Che Guava says:

    ‘Launch’ is a transitve verb, so what is it going to launch?

    Many Americans are so lazy and polluting the language, I am surprised that Dr. Giraldi is so ready to cooperate with such.

  144. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    In other words, exasperation and a repeat of claims with no basis in evidence.

    The Lobby has relentlessly been pursuing in their efforts to stamp out antisemitism in Western nations.

    You speak as if that is a bad thing. Perhaps you’d like to bring back slavery too, while you are at it?

  145. geokat62 says:

    In other words, exasperation and a repeat of claims with no basis in evidence.

    I beg to differ. I think Prof. Kevin MacDonald has done an admirable job documenting the nefarious activities of The Lobby in his magnum opus, CofC.

    You speak as if that is a bad thing. Perhaps you’d like to bring back slavery too, while you are at it?

    With all due respect, Sam, I don’t think it’s a good idea for you to bring up the topic of slavery, given the dominant role played by Jewry, both in terms of being leading traders and the fact that, proportionately speaking, twice as many of them owned slaves when compared to whites.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Sam Shama
  146. RobinG says:
    @geokat62

    Et tu quoque, Geo?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  147. geokat62 says:
    @RobinG

    You’ve got something to say, say it.

  148. geokat62 says:

    Not sure if anyone else previously linked to this PCR article, Has The Israel Lobby Destroyed Americans’ First Amendment Rights?

    It was published soon after Phil was let go from The American Cuckservative.

    If not, it is well worth a read:

    [MORE]

    The Israel Lobby has shown its power over Americans’ perceptions and ability to exercise free speech via its influence in media, entertainment and ability to block university tenure appointments, such as those of Norman Finkelstein and Steven Salaita. Indeed, the power of the Israel Lobby is today so widely recognized and feared that editors, producers, and tenure committees anticipate the lobby’s objections in advance and avoid writers, subjects, and professors judged unacceptable to the lobby.

    The latest example is The American Conservative’s firing of former CIA officer Philip Giraldi. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47942.htm Giraldi wrote an article for the Unz Review about Israel’s influence over American foreign policy in the Middle East. http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/ The article didn’t say anything that the Israeli newspaper Haaretz hadn’t said already. The editor of The American Conservative, where Giraldi had been a contributor for a decade and a half, was terrified that the magazine was associated with a critic of Israel and quickly terminated the relationship. Such abject cowardice as the editor of The American Conservative showed is a true measure of the power of the Israel Lobby.

    Meny seasoned experts believe that without the influence of the Israel Lobby, particularly as exerted by the Jewish Neoconservatives, the United States would not have been at war in the Middle East and North Africa for the last 16 years. These wars have done nothing for the US but harm, and they have cost taxpayers trillions of dollars and caused extensive death and destruction in seven countries and a massive refugee flow into Europe.

    For a superpower such as the United States not to be in control of its own foreign policy is a serious matter. Giraldi is correct and patriotic to raise this concern. Giraldi makes sensible recommendations for correcting Washington’s lack of control over its own policy. But instead of analysis and debate of Giraldi’s proposals, the result is Giraldi’s punishment by an editor of a conservative publication anticipating the Israel Lobby’s wishes.

    Americans should think about the fact that Israel is the only country on earth that it is impermissible to criticize. Anyone who criticizes Israeli policy, especially toward the Palestinians, or remarks on Israel’s influence, is branded an “anti-semite.” Even mild critics who are trying to steer Israel away from making mistakes, such as former President Jimmy Carter, are branded “anti-semites.”

    The Israel Lobby’s purpose in labeling a critic an “anti-semite” is to discredit the criticism as an expression of dislike or hatred of Jews. In other words, the criticism is presented as merely an expression of the person’s aversion to Jewishness. A persistent critic is likely to be charged with trying to incite a new holocaust.

    It is possible to criticize the policy of Germany, France, Spain, UK, Italy, Brazil, Mexico, Russia, China, Iran, the US, indeed, every other country without being called anti-German, Anti-French, Anti-British, Anti-American, etc., although US policy in the Middle East is so closely aligned with Israel’s that the Israel Lobby regards critics of US Middle East policy as hostile to Israel. Despite the failures of US policy, it is getting more and more difficult to criticize it without the risk of being branded “unpatriotic,” and possibly even a “Muslim sympathizer” and “anti-semite.”

    The power of the Israel Lobby is seen in many places. For example, the US Congress demands that RT, a news service, register as a Russian agent, but AIPAC, before whom every year the US Congress pays its homage and submission, does not have to register as an Israeli agent.

    The many anomalies in the Israel Lobby’s power pass unremarked. For example, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) defines criticism of Israeli policies as defamation and brands critics “anti-semites.” In other words, the ADL itself is set up in the business of defamation or name-calling. The incongruity of an organization created to oppose defamation engaging in defamation as its sole purpose passes unremarked.

    Israel is very proud of its power over the United States. Israeli political leaders have a history of bragging about their power over America. But if an American complains about it, he is a Jew-hater. The only safe way for an American to call attention to the power Israel has over the US is to brag about it. It is OK to acknowledge Israel’s power if you put it in a good light, but not if you complain about it.

    So, let me put it this way: Israel’s unique ability to discredit all criticism of its policies as a mere expression of anti-Jewish sentiment is the greatest public relations success in the history of PR. The stupidity of the goy is easily overcome by the more capable Jew. Hats off to Israel for outwitting the dumbshit Americans and taking over their foreign policy. Perhaps Israel should take over US domestic policy as well. Or have they already? It has been 30 years since the Federal Reserve has had a non-Jewish Chairman, and for the past three years Stanley Fischer, the former chairman of the Central Bank of Israel, has been Vice Chairman of the Federal Reserve. Since the Clinton regime, the Treasury Secretaries have been predominately Jewish. We can say that their financial talent makes them natural candidates for these positions, but it is disingenuous to deny the influence of this small minority in American life. This influence becomes a problem when it is used to silence free speech.

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/10/06/israel-lobby-destroyed-americans-first-amendment-rights/

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  149. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    Kevin MacDonald and his “work” shall be consigned to the dustbin of history as has been the lot, of any number of such endeavours; of small men in pursuit of a world very distant from Liberal Democracy to which we, the modern peoples, are heirs.

    So it is confirmed you are an Antisemite and proud.

    The history of slave-trade had Jewish names involved, of that I am aware. The crucial difference is this: no normal person, even anonymously, would write in an endorsement of slavery, today. Ditto, antisemitism.

    Yet here we stand in polite company [or so one thought], witness to a smug disclosure of membership in that blessed league.

    Antisemitism is a serious matter. Are you positive you mightn’t consider joining the club of wife-beaters instead? I hear MacDonald belongs to both.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Anon
  150. geokat62 says:

    … of small men in pursuit of a world very distant from Liberal Democracy to which we, the modern peoples, are heirs.

    Ah, yes, Liberal Democracy. I see it is very clearly held in high esteem in your beloved Jewish state. It is the paragon of LD in action, just ask half the population. Why, even The Lobby holds it in high regard… pushing the whores in Congress to pass laws that violate the American people’s first amendment rights, all in an effort to safeguard the purported interests of a foreign country.

    So it is confirmed you are an Antisemite and proud.

    I take it you confirmed this with Jonathan Greenblatt, before reaching your verdict?

    Antisemitism is a serious matter.

    I see. You accuse me of being an antisemite because I may not be convinced that “destroying a village to save it” is such a good idea? Allow me to explain. While antisemitism is a serious matter, is it so serious that it warrants the destruction of the pillars of Western civilization to defeat it? One gets the sense that you’d like all goyim to quietly accept their fate and embrace The Lobby’s recipe for defeating antisemitism for good: by embracing the double whammy of mass immigration followed by miscegenation.

    Truth be told, it is the policies promoted by The Lobby that is chiefly responsible for ensuring that antisemitism remains alive and well. And because I have the temerity to point this out, you deem it appropriate to drop “the sledgehammer” on me a second time?

    Yet here we stand in polite company [or so one thought]

    Oh, yeah. You’re the real gentleman, alright.

  151. @Sam Shama

    Maven Sam Shama branded geokat62: “So it is confirmed you are an Antisemite and proud”

    Morning Maven,

    Doubtless, you are aware of how The Christ qualifies as “liberal democracy’s” first AntiSemite, and how the Jewish High Priests endeavored to assign this blasphemous “small” Nazarene to the “dustbin of history”?

    Congratulations, Maven! (Zigh)

    Your foolish attempt to discredit & vilify the “blessed” work of geokat and Kevin MacDonald consigns you to lifetime membership in the powerful Synagogue of Satan-league.

    (zZigh)

    Selah, President Clinton’s feminist wife learned a hard lesson as to how a proud Zionist spouse can get painful beatings minus liberal use of a club-fist.

  152. @Heros

    “That question is so stupid, only a jew could have come up with it. Besides, you are the one who is busy blowing on the anti-semite dog whistle, so I would suggest that it is you who should provide examples of the parts of our lives where jews have allowed us to go about our ways without their meddling.”

    I don’t think so, jackass.

    1) I’m not Jewish.

    2) I think what happened is I made light of the possibility you may be unhinged.

    3) I’m not blowing any dog-whistle. But that’s what you hear because that’s all you listen for. That’s your thing. You are obsessed with the Jewish thing.

    I would gladly try to help with your “suggestion.” Tell me a little about your life and show me where Jews are “meddling” in it, and I would be more then willing to help you try to heal, live your life to the fullest and stop playing the victim.

    Maybe go outside and go for a walk. Talk to some girls. Are Jews preventing you from doing that? Lemme know.

    • Troll: Them Guys
  153. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    Antisemitism is a serious matter. Are you positive you mightn’t consider joining the club of wife-beaters instead? I hear MacDonald belongs to both.

    But what is antisemitism? If it means being like this lady: https://polska.pl/arts/literature/zofia-kossak-szczucka-anti-semite-who-saved-jews/ , or like, say, Belloc, then it is certainly nothing to be ashamed of. But the reality is that is an amorphous term, expanding or contracting at the whim of the user.

  154. geokat62 says:

    Here’s a follow-up to my last exchange with the Maven. After latching onto my comment that The Lobby’s number one objective is to eradicate antisemitism, by any means necessary, he wagged his finger at me, demanding a response to his query: “don’t you think antisemitism is a serious threat?”

    Here’s my more fulsome response:

    While antisemitism, from your perspective, is the number one concern, from mine it is antigoyism. While The Lobby has been falsely claiming that the backlash against its policies (Big Lie #1 Diversity Is Our Strength and Big Lie #2 The GWOT is being waged to enhance the security of The Dumb Goyim) is a manifestation of white supremacy, the truth of the matter is that the real supremacists are Jewish supremacists. As usual, their claims are the exact inverse of reality.

    The Maven is not alone regarding the false claim of white supremacy. He is singing from the official hymn sheet. Here is a recent article in The Forward:

    Here in the U.S., we are smack in the middle of one of these cycles. Following years of retrenchment, America’s white supremacist movement is in the midst of a resurgence. A growing number of young people, many of them relatively well educated, have in recent years been flocking to the racist and anti-Semitic ideology of a particular subculture of this movement, known as the alt-right.

    https://forward.com/opinion/404501/the-alt-right-isnt-going-away/

    Notwithstanding these false claims, the truth of the matter is that AS has been virtually non-existent in the US. So much so that it has to be manufactured by agent provocateurs to keep it alive (see story of Israeli who was responsible for acts of vandalism at Jewish cemeteries in US). The only violent acts against Jews are occurring in Europe, where Muslims are reacting to the carnage that is taking place in MENA. While there is no legitimate threat of there being a grass roots resurgence of AS in the West, The Lobby is in full swing promoting antigoyism. Need proof? Just ask yourself: which is the most despised segment in Western societies? Is it Jews or is it straight white men?

    So, one side has been wagging war against the other, which has been asleep at the wheel. This is what Prof. Kevin MacDonald’s scholarship has demonstrated.

    To recapitulate, rather than AS being a serious threat, I maintain that AG is. So, The Lobby has a choice, continue doing what it has been doing, which will result in a self fulfilling prophecy or cease and desist ASAP. While I have been consistently urging the latter, the Maven seems intent on supporting the former.

    Only the fullness of time will demonstrate who is right and who is wrong.

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