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It’s hard to know where to begin. Last Friday’s indictment of 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies by Special Counsel Robert Mueller was detailed in a 37 page document that provided a great deal of specific evidence claiming that a company based in St. Petersburg, starting in 2014, was using social media to assess American attitudes. Using that assessment, the company inter alia allegedly later ran a clandestine operation seeking to influence opinion in the United States regarding the candidates in the 2016 election in which it favored Donald Trump and denigrated Hillary Clinton. The Russians identified by name are all back in Russia and cannot be extradited to the U.S., so the indictment is, to a certain extent, political theater as the accused’s defense will never be heard.

In presenting the document, Rod Rosenstein, Deputy Attorney General, stressed that there was no evidence to suggest that the alleged Russian activity actually changed the result of the 2016 presidential election or that any actual votes were altered or tampered with. Nor was there any direct link to either the Russian government or its officials or to the Donald Trump campaign developed as a result of the nine-month long investigation. There was also lacking any mention in the indictment of the Democratic National Committee, Hillary Clinton and Podesta e-mails, so it is to be presumed that the activity described in the document was unrelated to the WikiLeaks disclosures.

Those of the “okay, there’s smoke but where’s the fire” school of thought immediately noted the significant elephant in the room, namely that the document did not include any suggestion that there had been collusion between Team Trump and Moscow. As that narrative has become the very raison d’etre driving the Mueller investigation, its omission is noteworthy. Meanwhile, those who see more substance in what was revealed by the evidence provided in the indictment and who, for political reasons, would like to see Trump damaged, will surely be encouraged by their belief that the noose is tightening around the president.

Assuming the indictment is accurate, I would agree that the activity of the Internet Research Agency does indeed have some of the hallmarks of a covert action intelligence operation in terms how it used some spying tradecraft to support its organization, targeting and activity. But its employees also displayed considerable amateur behavior, suggesting that they were not professional spies, supporting the argument that it was not a government intelligence operation or an initiative under Kremlin control. And beyond that, so what? Even on a worst-case basis, stirring things up is what intelligence agencies do, and no one is more active in interfering in foreign governments and elections than the United States of America, most notably in Russia for the election of Boris Yeltsin in 1996, which was arranged by Washington, and more recently in Ukraine in 2014. From my own experience I can cite Italy’s 1976 national election in which the CIA went all out to keep the communists out of government. Couriers were discreetly dispatched to the headquarters of all the Italian right wing parties dropping off bags of money for “expenses” while the Italian newspapers were full of articles written by Agency-paid hacks warning of the dangers of communism. And this all went on clandestinely even though Italy was a democracy, an ally and NATO member.

Does that mean that Washington should do nothing in response? No, not at all. Russia, if the indictment is accurate, may have run an influencing operation and gotten caught with its hand in the cookie jar. Or maybe not. And Washington might also actually have information suggesting that Russia is preparing to engage in further interference in the 2018 and 2020 elections, as claimed by the heads of the intelligence agencies, though, as usual, evidence for the claim is lacking. There has to be bilateral, confidential discussion of such activity between Washington and Moscow and a warning given that such behavior will not be tolerated in the future, but only based on irrefutable, solid evidence. The leadership in both countries should be made to understand very clearly that there are more compelling reasons to maintain good bilateral working relations than not.

With that in mind, it is important not to overreact and to base any U.S. response on the actual damage that was inflicted. The indictment suggests that Russia is out to destroy American democracy by promoting “distrust” of government as well as sowing “discord” in the U.S. political system while also encouraging “divisiveness” among the American people. I would suggest in Russia’s defense that the U.S. political system is already doing a good job at self-destructing and the difficult-to-prove accusations being hurled at Moscow are the type one flings when there is not really anything important to say.

I would suggest that Moscow might well want to destroy American democracy but there is no evidence in the indictment to support that hypothesis. I particularly note that the document makes a number of assumptions which appear to be purely speculative for which it provides no evidence. It describes the Russian company Internet Research Agency as “engaged in operations to interfere with elections and political processes.” Its employees were involved in

“interference operations targeting the United States. From in or around 2014 to the present, Defendants knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other (and with persons known and unknown to the Grand Jury) to defraud the United States by impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful functions of the government through fraud and deceit for the purpose of interfering with the U.S. political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016.”

The theme of Russian subversion is repeated throughout the indictment without any compelling evidence to explain how Mueller knows what he asserts to be true, suggesting either that the document would have benefited from a good editor or that whoever drafted it was making things up. Internet Research Agency allegedly “conduct[ed] what it called ‘information warfare against the United States of America’ through fictitious U.S. personas on social media platforms and other Internet-based media.” The indictment goes on to assert that

“By in or around May 2014, the ORGANIZATION’s strategy included interfering with the 2016 U.S. presidential election, with the stated goal of ‘spread[ing] distrust towards the candidates and the political system in general’”

with a

“strategic goal to sow discord in the U.S. political system, including the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Defendants posted derogatory information about a number of candidates, and by early to mid-2016, Defendants’ operations included supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump (“Trump Campaign”) and disparaging Hillary Clinton. Defendants made various expenditures to carry out those activities, including buying political advertisements on social media in the name of U.S. persons and entities. Defendants also staged political rallies inside the United States, and while posing as U.S. grassroots entities and U.S. persons, and without revealing their Russian identities and ORGANIZATION affiliation, solicited and compensated real U.S. persons to promote or disparage candidates. Some Defendants, posing as U.S. persons and without revealing their Russian association, communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities.”

Two company associates

“traveled in and around the United States, including stops in Nevada, California, New Mexico, Colorado, Illinois, Michigan, Louisiana, Texas, and New York to gather intelligence. After the trip, [they] exchanged an intelligence report regarding the trip. The conspiracy had as its object the opening of accounts under false names at U.S. financial institutions and a digital payments company in order to receive and send money into and out of the United States to support the ORGANIZATION’s operations in the United States and for self-enrichment. Defendants and their co-conspirators also used the accounts to receive money from real U.S. persons in exchange for posting promotions and advertisements on the ORGANIZATION-controlled social media pages. Defendants and their co-conspirators typically charged certain U.S. merchants and U.S. social media sites between 25 and 50 U.S. dollars per post for promotional content on their popular false U.S. persona accounts, including Being Patriotic, Defend the 2nd, and Blacktivist. All in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1349.”

Note particularly the money laundering and for-profit aspects of the Internet Research scheme, something that would be eschewed if it were an actual intelligence operation. There is some speculation that it all might have been what is referred to as a click-bait commercial marketing scheme set up to make money from advertising fees. Also note how small the entire operation was. It focused on limited social media activity while spending an estimated $1 million on the entire venture, with Facebook admitting to a total of $100,000 in total ad buys, only half of which were before the election. It doesn’t smell like a major foreign government intelligence/influence initiative intended to “overthrow democracy.” And who attended the phony political rallies? How many votes did the whole thing cause to change? Impossible to know, but given a campaign in which billions were spent and both fake and real news were flying in all directions, one would have to assume that the Russian effort was largely a waste of time if it indeed was even as described or serious in the first place.

And apart from the money laundering aspect of the alleged campaign was it even illegal apart from the allegations of possible visa fraud and money laundering? If the Russians involved were getting their financial support from the Moscow government then it would be necessary to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) of 1938, but if not, they would be protected by the Constitution and have the same First Amendment right to express their opinions of Hillary Clinton on blogs and websites while also associating with others politically as do all other residents of the United States. Many of the commenters on this Unz site are foreign and are not required either by law or custom to state where they come from.

And, of course, there is one other thing. There always is. One major media outlet is already suggesting that there could be consequences for American citizens who wittingly or unwittingly helped the Russians, identified in the indictment as “persons known and unknown.” A former federal prosecutor put it another way, saying “While they went to great pains to say they are not indicting any Americans today, if I was an American and I did cooperate with Russians I would be extremely frightened…” Politico speculates that “Now, a legal framework exists for criminal charges against Americans…” and cites a former U.S. district attorney’s observation that “Think of a conspiracy indicting parties known and unknown’ as a Matroyshka doll. There are many more layers to be successively revealed over time.”

Under normal circumstances, an American citizen colluding with a foreign country would have to be convicted of engaging in an illegal conspiracy, which would require being aware that the foreigners were involved in criminal behavior and knowingly aiding them. But today’s overheated atmosphere in Washington is anything but normal. Russia’s two major media outlets that operate in the U.S., Sputnik and RT America, have been forced to register under FARA. Does that mean that the hundreds of American citizens who appeared on their programs prior to the 2016 election to talk about national politics will be next in line for punishment? Stay tuned.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is www.councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected]

 
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  1. chris says:

    These incitements have the hallmarks of the first tier of the attack. They are the very thin ice on which the case is to be built and their purpose is to later serve as background noise for the entire case being built against Trump.

    Compare these activities to those of the U.K. citizen Steel.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Nunes breaks it down.

    Let's Play 10 Questions
    Nunes' New Approach To Demand Answers On The Dossier

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/20/nunes-letters-trump-dossier/

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  2. ZUSA spends 5 billion dollars to overthrow the government of piss-ant Ukraine and drives the economy into the dirt, meanwhile, Russia spends 1 million to take control of “the most powerful nation on Earth” and the stock market soars. That is impressive! There’s money to be made! Surely these meddlers should be put on the payroll immediately and used for the next coup, which can’t be far off since Ukraine was in 2014.

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    • Replies: @Z-man
    Good one!
    , @Moi
    It's like Mencken said: "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."

    :-)
    , @rosemerry
    Excellent observation!
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  3. RobinG says:

    “…..Defendants knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other (and with persons known and unknown to the Grand Jury) to defraud the United States by impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful functions of the government through fraud and deceit….”

    Are you sure that wasn’t written about Israel, AIPAC, et al…?

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    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    New York, California, Nevada, Colorado are Jewish strongholds. Was Mueller careful to avoid naming Russian Jews?

    Anyway, NY and CA provided Killary's 3 million vote majority, so Russians wasted their time vilifying Trimp in those states. Maybe they were visiting family, or attending an IDF fundraiser.
    , @jacques sheete

    Are you sure that wasn’t written about Israel, AIPAC, et al…?
     
    I was thinking the same thing as I read that.

    The old "blame others for what you're doing" schtick no doubt.
    , @Robert Hume
    Yes, speaking of AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, is there a ARPAC? The American Russia Political Affairs Committee that arranges for US citizens to contribute to the campaigns of selected US politicians, and that also arranges for unstoppable standing ovations when Putin speaks to Congress.
    , @annamaria
    "One major media outlet is already suggesting that there could be consequences for American citizens who wittingly or unwittingly helped the Russians, identified in the indictment as “persons known and unknown.” A former federal prosecutor put it another way, saying “While they went to great pains to say they are not indicting any Americans today, if I was an American and I did cooperate with Russians I would be extremely frightened…”
    -- Should we hold our breath to see Clinton and Harvard Boys indicted? Certain Mr. Bill Browder [a grandson of the leading US communist] was the most instrumental in shaping Magnitsky Act, i. e., a codex of anti-Russian sanctions. The scoundrel made a fortune in Russia. https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/agent-william-f-browder-smoking-gun/ri13858
    Hey, US Congress, look at your Browder and your Wall Street masters of the universe (to whom your serve), which have been profiteering nicely in Russia. According to Mueller's indictment, there should be a small army of financiers (led by the Clintons) awaiting a trial for their cooperation with Russians.
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  4. With witnesses and various intell services turning up information on Trump I look forward to future advancement of the case against him. I think he’s *compromised.

    Katie Couric was made to apologize to the Dutch for suggesting that their preoccupation with skating on the below-sea-level rivers was the key to their Olympic success. But Dutch hackers proving their tradecraft working for AIVD have apparently cracked “Cozy Bear” whose job it was to gain access and steal from the DNC for Russia. SVR made sure that information ended up with WikiLeaks and the rest is history. Trump can no longer deny this. Boom.

    If sowing discord is just the only thing we have to worry about from Russia then this whole imbroglio is likely to not go very far. But it’s reasonable to assume that Russia wants more than that. Perhaps a lot more. We’ll see what Mueller can prove. But as of right now it appears like Trump is working with Russia’s interests as a *key concern.

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    “Cozy Bear” whose job it was to gain access and steal from the DNC for Russia.
     
    you're kidding, right???

    William Binney, the architect of the NSA surveillance program stated that if the Russians had hacked the DNC computers, the NSA would know it. Then he proved that the e-mails had been downloaded locally.

    Do you not know this or do you choose not to acknowlege information that does not fit in with your pre-drawn conclusions?
    , @Anonymous
    Its time for the cheeseball with the short fingers to wear an outfit that matches his face! Do we still shoot traitors in this country?
    , @RadicalCenter
    Yes, if you repeat it enough times, I'll believe it. Well done.
    , @FB

    '...But Dutch hackers proving their tradecraft working for AIVD have apparently cracked “Cozy Bear” whose job it was to gain access and steal from the DNC for Russia.

    SVR made sure that information ended up with WikiLeaks and the rest is history. Trump can no longer deny this. Boom...'
     
    I think we have our mushroom tripper of the year award right here...
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  5. CalDre says:

    The indictment suggests that Russia is out to destroy American democracy by promoting “distrust” of government as well as sowing “discord” in the U.S. political system while also encouraging “divisiveness” among the American people.

    The ((MSM)) is doing a far better job of that. How many attacks on Trump have we read or heard that he is a White supremacist, a bigot, a fascist, a traitor, from the ((MSM)), all with absolutely no evidence? How many calls for impeachment and the resultant constitutional crisis, if not civil war? (Disclaimer: I’m no Trump fan, he’s also one of the “useful idiots”, I’m simply noting how much vastly more divisive and undermining of unity and trust the Tribe is compared to Russia.)

    Mueller is just another deep state traitor who can file unconstitutional indictments for some folks exercising free speech on the internet while ignoring the tribal conspiracy against the US and the world. How many Jew trolls publish, or write for, major US news publications and cable channels? How many billions have dual-citizen ((Americans)) donated to the political parties to subvert US polity to serve foreign interests?

    There is exactly one foreign power/tribe that exerts an intolerable chokehold on US politics. Mueller is a tool of that power/tribe.

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    • Replies: @FLgeezer
    Well said CalDre!
    , @densa
    It is laughable, and yes, ignores that our country was hijacked by a country not Russia a long time ago.

    Russia is sowing distrust, discord and divisiveness? This is more of the idea that opposition to the "resistance" can only be based on hate. The "resistance" itself never propagates "distrust, discord or divisiveness. Diabolical when you think of it: opposition cannot legitimately exist. It must be caused by an evil, outside force, which justifies any means to silence it.
    , @Herman Stottmann
    Hey CalDre, You hit the nail right on the head. I couldn't have said it better.
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  6. The country that meddles in the whole world, as far as fighting bloody wars as the Iraq war, maybe a million deaths, still is meddling, now is indignant about some futile meddling in the USA.

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  7. I guess you’re in line Phil for being interviewed on RT, and me for wittingly tuning in to hear what you had to say. I suppose the truth is no defense in a land rife with official lying as the only protected speech.

    This is the official Washington version of SJW speech shutdown of contrary views, which often also happen to be true, especially since propaganda operations against the American public were first legalized in the waning days of the Obama/Hillary administration.

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    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    >> " . . .official lying as the only protected speech." <<

    Elegant.
    And chilling.
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  8. hobo says:

    Mr. Giraldi,

    Minor correction: 2nd paragraph: “Hillary Clinton and Panetta e-mails,”

    I think you mean “… and Podesta’s e-mails”.

    Keep up the great work.

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    Thanks hobo! Corrected!
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  9. From my own experience I can cite Italy’s 1976 national election in which the CIA went all out to keep the communists out of government. Couriers were discreetly dispatched to the headquarters of all the Italian right wing parties dropping off bags of money for “expenses” while the Italian newspapers were full of articles written by Agency-paid hacks warning of the dangers of communism. And this all went on clandestinely even though Italy was a democracy, an ally and NATO member.

    Some Italians believe it didn’t stop there, and that Operation Gladio–NATO’s ‘stay behind’ organization in W. Europe–infiltrated the Red Brigades and killed PM Aldo Moro in 1978:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldo_Moro#Alternative_points_of_view_about_Moro’s_death

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio#First_publicly_revealed_in_Italy

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    • Replies: @polskijoe
    And the CIA created another retarded idealogy called New Left
    along with the Commie Jews.
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  10. mcohen says:

    13 russians plus a teddy bear make up a pajama party.

    Stay pruned

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    Stay pruned
     
    Did you mean "circumcised"?
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  11. yurivku says:

    Does that mean that the hundreds of American citizens who appeared on their programs prior to the 2016 election to talk about national politics will be next in line for punishment? Stay tuned.

    I hope they will. This will add some dynamics on your moody circus. Looking forward to it.

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    • Replies: @chris
    Let's not forget about the slimy limey John Oliver; will he be indicted next ?
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  12. Tom Welsh says:

    Soon they will have attained the goal of government as enunciated by Ayn Rand: making everyone guilty, so that government can punish anyone it fancies whenever it wishes.

    “There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Rearden, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with”.

    - Ayn Rand, “Atlas Shrugged”

    After all, how far is any of us from some “Russian link”, if the resources of 17 spy agencies with their tens of thousands of analysts, massive computers and billions of dollars in funding start looking for one?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation

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  13. Hi Phil

    You could have summed up Mueller’s indictment with a few tweets like Raimondo did, notably “I can’t even *read* Mueller’s indictment without laughing: what he’s “indicted” is a clickbait operation set up to *make money* … or just focused on one word “clickbait”

    1) I can’t even *read* Mueller’s indictment without laughing: what he’s “indicted” is a clickbait operation set up to *make money*. From the “indictment”:
    “Defendants and their co-conspirators also used the accounts to receive money from real U.S. persons in exchange for …

    https://twitter.com/JustinRaimondo

    On another note, you write:

    “From my own experience I can cite Italy’s 1976 national election in which the CIA went all out to keep the communists out of government. Couriers were discreetly dispatched to the headquarters of all the Italian right wing parties dropping off bags of money for “expenses” while the Italian newspapers were full of articles written by Agency-paid hacks warning of the dangers of communism. And this all went on clandestinely even though Italy was a democracy, an ally and NATO member”

    The CIA went all out? I suspect the CIA has done more than drop bags of cash… noting if you were giving testimony as a witness, an adversarial attorney would argue to the judge you’d opened the door to questions concerning “Gladio”

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio

    I’m likely not the only one who’d like to hear more…

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/12/24/americas-deep-state-corporate-oligarchy/

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  14. Hi Phil

    You could have summed up Mueller’s indictment with a few tweets like Raimondo did, notably “I can’t even *read* Mueller’s indictment without laughing: what he’s “indicted” is a clickbait operation set up to *make money* … or just focused on one word “clickbait”

    1) I can’t even *read* Mueller’s indictment without laughing: what he’s “indicted” is a clickbait operation set up to *make money*. From the “indictment”:
    “Defendants and their co-conspirators also used the accounts to receive money from real U.S. persons in exchange for …

    https://twitter.com/JustinRaimondo

    On another note, you write:

    “From my own experience I can cite Italy’s 1976 national election in which the CIA went all out to keep the communists out of government. Couriers were discreetly dispatched to the headquarters of all the Italian right wing parties dropping off bags of money for “expenses” while the Italian newspapers were full of articles written by Agency-paid hacks warning of the dangers of communism. And this all went on clandestinely even though Italy was a democracy, an ally and NATO member”

    The CIA went all out? I suspect the CIA has done more than drop bags of cash… noting if you were giving testimony as a witness, an adversarial attorney would argue to the judge you’d opened the door to questions concerning “Gladio”

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio

    I’m likely not the only one who’d like to hear more…

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/12/24/americas-deep-state-corporate-oligarchy/

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    Ron West

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    What could explain the ongoing hissy fit of Russophobia better than the obvious displeasure (irritation) of Banksters and Israel-firsters with the independent spirit of Russia? http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/02/the-rothschild-organ-and-octoputin-projection-or-envy.html#comments
    "At least 26% of the British Economist is owned by the Rothschild family. Lynn Forester de Rothschild and her spouse Evelyn de Rothschild are sitting on the board of the Economist Group. Is the publishing of the Putin squid by the Rothschild organ some kind of psychological projection? Or is it envy?"
    From the comment section:
    "In an uninformed America, fake news organization like NYT, Wapo and Economist can peddle fake news about fake news with nary a question of its accuracy. A dangerous time for the world. MORONS R/U$"
    "Perfect storm. "I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire, ... The man that controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire. And I control the money supply." Bearing mind that the US Federal Reserve is a private consortium of Rothschild-linked banks and it was another Rothschild that basically wrote the Balfour Declaration... The icing on the oligarchic system is Bernays-inspired propaganda."
    --- Mueller is a servant to the "deciders;" his principal gift is the boundless opportunism. He might look like a man but in actuality he is a eunuch of decency. There is obviously something quite miserable and undignified about Mr. Mueller behavior. That was his choice of "earning" the comforts of life.
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  15. CNN attempted to exert significant influence over the US election via several of its overseas bureaus, which I believe are foreign juridical persons for the purposes of many of the controlling legal authorities relevant to the Russian indictments. When do we get indictments of CNN?

    When, for that matter, do we get indictments of Christopher Steele, FusionGPS, and, what the heck, MI6?

    What I really love is the part of the story where two persons from an internet marketing company (it has offices, and even has a graphics department and finance department, zut alors!) go on a road trip across the biggest market in the world, and do the despiccable spy-thingy of buying cameras (for memories) and sim-cards (to save $$$$$ because roaming the US on a Russian sim-card is sau teuer), and then have the nerve to use a VPN (to avoid being hacked, but almost certainly back-doored by the NSA).

    Sorry, but this whole sordid investigation has started to take on the character of Get Smart (Would you believe Donald Trump did …?).

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  16. …a company …was using social media to assess American attitudes. Using that assessment, the company inter alia allegedly later ran a clandestine operation seeking to influence opinion in the United States…

    Regarding the general concept, there should be no surprises there.

    In fact, I suspect that any site that deals with the expression of opinions could, and probably is, used to assess American attitudes.

    A good reason to assess them would be to attempt to influence them.

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  17. There’s a simple reason for this CIA-orchestrated hysteria. Russia has suspended the gentleman’s agreement that extended CIA’s municipal-law impunity into the transnational space. The Soviet Union kept evidence of CIA crime to itself. Russia is enforcing the rule of law, publicizing its intelligence product to expose and denounce universal-jurisdiction crime by CIA. The original impetus for the Church and Pike Committees was a concerted initiative of the UN member nations to criminalize US aggression, murder, and torture. (Buried history: Does anyone remember that armed attack on neutral Cambodia was one of the Watergate draft impeachment articles? That was CIA making Nixon the patsy for its Indochina wars. The Pentagon Papers were a CIA attempt to frame the Pentagon for CIA’s war, as Fletcher Prouty wrote.)

    The world is putting its foot down again. It’s open season on CIA criminals. UN treaty bodies and special procedures have characterized CIA torture as systematic and widespread, making it a crime against humanity and making the CIA command structure hostes humani generis, enemies of all humanity. The world has codified crimes against peace and state responsibility for internationally wrongful acts in breach of jus cogens. State responsibility obligates every country to investigate and prosecute or extradite CIA criminals.

    Nunes is following the world’s lead as Church and Pike did, and CIA is panicking. The first target are ‘focal points’ or ‘dotted-line reports’ in DoJ and FBI – illegal CIA agents in our own government. Then international hue and cry will turn on the CIA itself, end its impunity, and impose command responsibility on its leaders.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/02/19/nunes-fbi-and-doj-perps-could-be-put-on-trial/

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  18. Zumbuddi says:
    @RobinG

    ".....Defendants knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other (and with persons known and unknown to the Grand Jury) to defraud the United States by impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful functions of the government through fraud and deceit...."
     
    Are you sure that wasn't written about Israel, AIPAC, et al...?

    New York, California, Nevada, Colorado are Jewish strongholds. Was Mueller careful to avoid naming Russian Jews?

    Anyway, NY and CA provided Killary’s 3 million vote majority, so Russians wasted their time vilifying Trimp in those states. Maybe they were visiting family, or attending an IDF fundraiser.

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  19. Z-man says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    ZUSA spends 5 billion dollars to overthrow the government of piss-ant Ukraine and drives the economy into the dirt, meanwhile, Russia spends 1 million to take control of "the most powerful nation on Earth" and the stock market soars. That is impressive! There's money to be made! Surely these meddlers should be put on the payroll immediately and used for the next coup, which can't be far off since Ukraine was in 2014.

    Good one!

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  20. @hobo
    Mr. Giraldi,

    Minor correction: 2nd paragraph: "Hillary Clinton and Panetta e-mails,"

    I think you mean "... and Podesta's e-mails".

    Keep up the great work.

    Thanks hobo! Corrected!

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  21. Zumbuddi says:
    @Fran Macadam
    I guess you're in line Phil for being interviewed on RT, and me for wittingly tuning in to hear what you had to say. I suppose the truth is no defense in a land rife with official lying as the only protected speech.

    This is the official Washington version of SJW speech shutdown of contrary views, which often also happen to be true, especially since propaganda operations against the American public were first legalized in the waning days of the Obama/Hillary administration.

    >> ” . . .official lying as the only protected speech.” <<

    Elegant.
    And chilling.

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  22. The indictment suggests that Russia is out to destroy American democracy…

    Whoever wrote the indictment is either ignorant or a joker or, more likely, both.

    The US constitution, in fact, was designed to kill American democracy, and did. It was an “elite” rich boys’ scheme from the start. Furthermore, ‘Merka went full commie under FDR nearly a century ago, so it’s long been a done deal. And for the petulant little whiners who don’t believe it, ask yourselves why FDR appeased Joey, why his admin was infested with people with opinions and ties from Eastern Europe, and why East Coast “frat” brat millionaires helped fund the Bolshies.

    On a related note, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said that there were “Polish perpetrators, as there were Jewish perpetrators, as there were Russian perpetrators, as there were Ukrainian and German perpetrators” in “the” Holocaust. He forgot to add that there were rich and powerful American and British perpetrators of the holocaust, and that the supposed, and no doubt exaggerated, Jewish one was small potatoes compared to the Christian holocaust.

    Any whiners can go look up the Holodomor.

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    "Merka went full commie under FDR nearly a century ago, so it’s long been a done deal."

    By "full commie" I presume you mean the commune of the chosenites.
    , @Anonymous
    There were Nazi sympathisers amongst the "rich and powerful American[s] and British" and P.G. Wodehouse even did some unwise broadcasting from Germany but I can't recall any who fit your description of "perpetrators of the H[h]olocaust". Help me out please.
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  23. @RobinG

    ".....Defendants knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other (and with persons known and unknown to the Grand Jury) to defraud the United States by impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful functions of the government through fraud and deceit...."
     
    Are you sure that wasn't written about Israel, AIPAC, et al...?

    Are you sure that wasn’t written about Israel, AIPAC, et al…?

    I was thinking the same thing as I read that.

    The old “blame others for what you’re doing” schtick no doubt.

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  24. @mcohen
    13 russians plus a teddy bear make up a pajama party.

    Stay pruned

    Stay pruned

    Did you mean “circumcised”?

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  25. @RobinG

    ".....Defendants knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other (and with persons known and unknown to the Grand Jury) to defraud the United States by impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful functions of the government through fraud and deceit...."
     
    Are you sure that wasn't written about Israel, AIPAC, et al...?

    Yes, speaking of AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, is there a ARPAC? The American Russia Political Affairs Committee that arranges for US citizens to contribute to the campaigns of selected US politicians, and that also arranges for unstoppable standing ovations when Putin speaks to Congress.

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  26. Jake says:

    Many people who are guilty of something avoid their guilt, refute their guilt, by projection: they come to believe that those they wrong actually are the guilty ones.

    That mental/moral deflection proceeds this way: 1) He whom I wronged is now, I feel deep in my heart, in the process of getting even by doing to me exactly what I did to him. 2) That means my actions that were wrong may be seen as necessary preemption against his inherent badness that proceeds from his refusal to forgive and forget. 3) That means he deserved what I did to him. 4) That means I am the Good Guy victim of his purely malicious heart and intentions. If his heart and intentions had been honorable, I never would have been forced to do the wrong to him that I did. The blame lies 100% at his feet.

    The US, like its allies the UK, Israel, and Saudi Arabia, operates that way.

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    The US, like its allies the UK, Israel, and Saudi Arabia, operates that way.
     
    The UK would be close to being an ally. Saudi Arabia and Izruel would be client states the problem is who is client to whom. LOL!!!
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  27. chris says:
    @Mark James
    With witnesses and various intell services turning up information on Trump I look forward to future advancement of the case against him. I think he's *compromised.

    Katie Couric was made to apologize to the Dutch for suggesting that their preoccupation with skating on the below-sea-level rivers was the key to their Olympic success. But Dutch hackers proving their tradecraft working for AIVD have apparently cracked "Cozy Bear" whose job it was to gain access and steal from the DNC for Russia. SVR made sure that information ended up with WikiLeaks and the rest is history. Trump can no longer deny this. Boom.

    If sowing discord is just the only thing we have to worry about from Russia then this whole imbroglio is likely to not go very far. But it's reasonable to assume that Russia wants more than that. Perhaps a lot more. We'll see what Mueller can prove. But as of right now it appears like Trump is working with Russia's interests as a *key concern.

    “Cozy Bear” whose job it was to gain access and steal from the DNC for Russia.

    you’re kidding, right???

    William Binney, the architect of the NSA surveillance program stated that if the Russians had hacked the DNC computers, the NSA would know it. Then he proved that the e-mails had been downloaded locally.

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    I'm fairly certain that Seth Rich was Mossad, he released the emails, probably Israel wanting to get back at Clinton about the Uranium 1 deal with Putin, maybe they knew Trump would be a better bet, maybe Mossad decided to kill Seth R to start the whole Clinton killed him narrative, maybe Seth is still alive??
    This is all speculation of course.
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  28. Renoman says:

    Everyone offended yada yada yada, it’s all a giant load of shit. Let’s talk about the CIA shall we? The original gangsters.

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  29. If you kill somebody than yes. If you spit on somebody than maybe. But if you say that African American ladies have an unshapely big but with thin thighs, I would say no.

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  30. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Why does this Giraldi think the US is a Democracy? Sounds like compounded fake news.

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  31. Z-man says:
    @Jake
    Many people who are guilty of something avoid their guilt, refute their guilt, by projection: they come to believe that those they wrong actually are the guilty ones.

    That mental/moral deflection proceeds this way: 1) He whom I wronged is now, I feel deep in my heart, in the process of getting even by doing to me exactly what I did to him. 2) That means my actions that were wrong may be seen as necessary preemption against his inherent badness that proceeds from his refusal to forgive and forget. 3) That means he deserved what I did to him. 4) That means I am the Good Guy victim of his purely malicious heart and intentions. If his heart and intentions had been honorable, I never would have been forced to do the wrong to him that I did. The blame lies 100% at his feet.

    The US, like its allies the UK, Israel, and Saudi Arabia, operates that way.

    The US, like its allies the UK, Israel, and Saudi Arabia, operates that way.

    The UK would be close to being an ally. Saudi Arabia and Izruel would be client states the problem is who is client to whom. LOL!!!

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  32. Giraldi, you need to get off the Ukraine kick. The Ukrainian people rose on their own. They didn’t need any encouragement to rise against Yanukovich’s broken promise when he backed away from Europe, and tried to sign Ukraine over to Putin’s kindly attentions. Ukrainians have always been restive under the Russian thumb and they have intention of being put back under it.

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    Why be governed by the Russians when you can be ruled by your own home grown Mafia? Makes perfect sense to me. I just wish the Ukrainian leadership wasn't so good at shaking down the US taxpayer. They must have been studying how the Israelis do it.
    , @Ronald Thomas West
    There are extensive contemporary accounts of how Ukraine's 'democracy' had been overthrown by neo-fascist elements with substantial western 'liberal democracies' support.

    Here is a leading academic expert on Ukraine's poisoned (neo-fascist) political environment:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_Anders_Rudling

    Here's an Italian investigative journalists account of the Maidan snipers:

    Part one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=wR1NFI6TBH0

    Part two:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0rR2Fh1zWI

    ^

    Just a few examples.
    , @freebird
    Not true -- we and other NATO countries were active in fomenting a coup against a duly elected president in Ukraine. That is just the facts and is now well documented.
    , @EugeneGur

    They didn’t need any encouragement to rise against Yanukovich’s broken promise when he . . . tried to sign Ukraine over to Putin’s kindly attentions.
     
    Actually, Putin did have kind intentions. In addition to $15 billion loan with 5% interest rat, he offered Ukraine multiple joined ventures in the energy sector, space and military industry, infrastructure. It all amounted to tens of billions of dollars in investments. Recently, the formed Finance Minister under Yanukovich talked about this offer.

    Now Ukraine is ruined; its economy is in tatters; it lost pretty much all its industry; its agriculture is struggling; its infrastructure is crumbling (the second bridge just recently collapsed in Kiev); its population destitute. I don't see any way for Ukraine out of this disaster.

    looking back, we Russians are glad that plan of Putin's didn't materialize. We did feed Ukraine for years before, and a lot of good it did us. So, from now on, you want independence - you pay for it.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Yeah, the Ukrainians may end up in the EU, which means subjugated by Muslims, raped and mugged by African "migrants", mocked and lectured about their racist dissatisfaction with that state of affairs, and then more heavily taxed to pay for their new overlords.

    Much better to be under the US / EU thumb than Russia's, huh.
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  33. Clyde says:

    Let’s at least concede that Bob Mueller is doing his part to keep pounding the Trump-Russia collusion narrative into the sheeple’s minds. His indictment of the 13 Russian clickbait operatives is ridiculous to 100% of Unz readers but will be lapped up by a high percentage of left-Democrat cuckoos and sheeple and this is what counts. You can be sure that CBSNBCABC-CNNMSNBC are presenting this as more solid evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.

    Mainstream TV is still the most effective way of spreading the Washington DC Deep State’s anti-Trump brainwashing and propaganda. Mueller’s witch hunt is still all good to the TV watching American masses. Hopefully this all boomerangs on Mueller and the Deep State but it will take a while. Don’t be discouraged. I rate this boomerang at 65%. Pray and hope that Donald Trump’s popularity increases. This is his best protection against Bob Mueller and other Deep State skulduggery. Trump is not my idol…..just saying that Hillary or any other Democrat president will be 20x worse. If you tore half your hair out under Obama you will go completely bald under the next Democrat president who will be a wacko minority of some kind like the ultra-hungry Kamala Devi Harris or a Hispanic.

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  34. When Mueller was head of the FBI in 2001 he helped the deep state cover up the fact that Israel and the deep state did 911.

    Mueller is a traitor and a diabolical puppet of the zionists.

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  35. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark James
    With witnesses and various intell services turning up information on Trump I look forward to future advancement of the case against him. I think he's *compromised.

    Katie Couric was made to apologize to the Dutch for suggesting that their preoccupation with skating on the below-sea-level rivers was the key to their Olympic success. But Dutch hackers proving their tradecraft working for AIVD have apparently cracked "Cozy Bear" whose job it was to gain access and steal from the DNC for Russia. SVR made sure that information ended up with WikiLeaks and the rest is history. Trump can no longer deny this. Boom.

    If sowing discord is just the only thing we have to worry about from Russia then this whole imbroglio is likely to not go very far. But it's reasonable to assume that Russia wants more than that. Perhaps a lot more. We'll see what Mueller can prove. But as of right now it appears like Trump is working with Russia's interests as a *key concern.

    Its time for the cheeseball with the short fingers to wear an outfit that matches his face! Do we still shoot traitors in this country?

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  37. Russian influence? Gimme a break! How does Russian influence stack up against the requirement in Kansas that contractors working for the state have to swear they don’t participate in BDS? And there is a similar pro Israel law on the books in Texas and in other states too.

    I’m sure the political elites in DC like to use the FBI to fight their political battles but as an ordinary citizen I wish the FBI would spend a bit more time investigating folks that threaten mass murder in our schools.

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    I wish the FBI would spend more time playing hookie from work, or getting drunk, or doing anything else that wouldn't cause harm to ordinary Americans.
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  38. @Quartermaster
    Giraldi, you need to get off the Ukraine kick. The Ukrainian people rose on their own. They didn't need any encouragement to rise against Yanukovich's broken promise when he backed away from Europe, and tried to sign Ukraine over to Putin's kindly attentions. Ukrainians have always been restive under the Russian thumb and they have intention of being put back under it.

    Why be governed by the Russians when you can be ruled by your own home grown Mafia? Makes perfect sense to me. I just wish the Ukrainian leadership wasn’t so good at shaking down the US taxpayer. They must have been studying how the Israelis do it.

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  39. @Quartermaster
    Giraldi, you need to get off the Ukraine kick. The Ukrainian people rose on their own. They didn't need any encouragement to rise against Yanukovich's broken promise when he backed away from Europe, and tried to sign Ukraine over to Putin's kindly attentions. Ukrainians have always been restive under the Russian thumb and they have intention of being put back under it.

    There are extensive contemporary accounts of how Ukraine’s ‘democracy’ had been overthrown by neo-fascist elements with substantial western ‘liberal democracies’ support.

    Here is a leading academic expert on Ukraine’s poisoned (neo-fascist) political environment:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_Anders_Rudling

    Here’s an Italian investigative journalists account of the Maidan snipers:

    Part one:

    Part two:

    ^

    Just a few examples.

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  40. freebird says:

    How much money in total did the Clinton campaign spend on the 2016 election? And compare that to how much money the Trump campaign spent. How much money did the DNC and Clinton campaign spend on the fake Russian dossier? What about Mexico and their meddling in our election process via illegals that vote and in other ways? What about China, and Saudi Arabian interference and money spent during the election? Any connection through the Clinton Foundation that saw money funneled into the election? What about contacts between Clinton operatives and the Russians including up to the level of Putin? What about the fact that the entire U.S. media operated in a 24 x 7 manner to shrill for Hillary, think about all the free air-time she got from the likes of CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times etc. all that added up to hundreds of millions of dollars of free propaganda for her campaign. ———- those are just some of the things you could have put in this opinion piece to give it more balance and objectivity

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  41. freebird says:
    @Quartermaster
    Giraldi, you need to get off the Ukraine kick. The Ukrainian people rose on their own. They didn't need any encouragement to rise against Yanukovich's broken promise when he backed away from Europe, and tried to sign Ukraine over to Putin's kindly attentions. Ukrainians have always been restive under the Russian thumb and they have intention of being put back under it.

    Not true — we and other NATO countries were active in fomenting a coup against a duly elected president in Ukraine. That is just the facts and is now well documented.

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  42. Erebus says:

    Moonofalabama systematically disassembles Mueller’s “indictment” here: http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/02/mueller-indictement-the-russian-influence-is-a-commercial-marketing-scheme.html#more

    It was a straight ahead click-bait operation using politics, cute puppies and whatever else it could think of to get clicks. A nothing burger all the way to the last bite.

    Mueller indicted himself, the FBI and the DoJ. What a fiasco.

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    Mueller indicted himself, the FBI and the DoJ. What a fiasco.
     
    Exactly. I couldn't believe what I was reading after the so called "indictment" has been released. Surreal.
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  43. But its employees also displayed considerable amateur behavior, suggesting that they were not professional spies,

    Phil, you are too kind to them–the guys behaved as downright dumb-asses. I post this comment several days ago, after reading the “indictment”. I paste it here.

    But while I was driving home from work I desperately tried to recall when any serious intelligence asset in the history of spying addressed the other in open with “OK, Gestapo got me”, or sent a telegram to Lubyanka “OK, I got busted by FBI”, nor do I expect CIA assets in Russia, the moment FSB gets to them, start sending e-mails to Langley with “Dudes, got to run, FSB is on my tail”. Not only it goes against anything real professionals do, but even real military guards rank and file, guarding weapons and ammo depots have parole and response which are secret “words” known only to them–all that is required by basic field manuals. Now, I am pretty sure that real serious SVR assets have a well trained and worked out open communications protocols which include secret ciphered words and phrases for a number of urgent contingencies. Even boy-scouts do that. I am sure that real SVR officer or agent would write, in case of being under FBI surveillance and feeling a heat something like that: “Got a serious caries problem in my low far left mole. Hurts like hell, need to make a dentist appointment”, or “Have issues with bowel movement, need to take stool softener.” And who in our time doesn’t need a stool softener, right? So, yes, there are huge questions about this Mueller’s “work”, for me at least, and I do not deny the possibility, albeit asses the probability as very low, that Russia could have been involved in some form into “influencing” something, but this is not it. Money laundering? Yes, that is more like it but then serious SVR assets on assignment to subvert US democracy are not engaged into questionable financial activities.

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  44. @Erebus
    Moonofalabama systematically disassembles Mueller's "indictment" here: http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/02/mueller-indictement-the-russian-influence-is-a-commercial-marketing-scheme.html#more

    It was a straight ahead click-bait operation using politics, cute puppies and whatever else it could think of to get clicks. A nothing burger all the way to the last bite.

    Mueller indicted himself, the FBI and the DoJ. What a fiasco.

    Mueller indicted himself, the FBI and the DoJ. What a fiasco.

    Exactly. I couldn’t believe what I was reading after the so called “indictment” has been released. Surreal.

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  45. Joe Hide says:

    Mr. Geraldo,
    Great article. We need more like this.

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    Mr. Geraldo
     
    Geraldo doesn't write for UNZ, he mostly hangs around Fox. Mr. Philip Giraldi, however, wrote this article.
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  46. LondonBob says:

    Pretty convinced now this was a click bait scam. The IRA had already been publicised in the Western press for a few years, presumably the NSA guys had a good look around given their security seemed shambolic.

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  47. Seems to have had little effect on American media. All I remember is the constant praise for HC and the constant insults to Trump before the election.

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  48. poop says:

    A lot stinks about this “indictment” (and trust me, I’m an expert). For one thing, the supposed power and influence attributed to internet commenters and trolls. If that is the case, why isn’t the Unz commentariat currently running the world? Or if it is, that I don’t know about it? I want a cushy government gig!

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  49. Rurik says:

    …as claimed by the heads of the intelligence agencies, though, as usual, evidence for the claim is lacking.

    the boy who cried wolf

    After Colon Powell went to the UN to ‘justify’ attacking Iraq for it’s WMD, the evidence for which was based entirely on the word of our ‘sixteen intelligence agencies’…

    And this whole ludicrous farce of “Russian collusion” has been based and reported as fact on the ‘irreproachable’ ‘reputation’ of these same “sixteen intelligence agencies” – as if it were the word of God Himself. So no actual evidence is necessary when you’re basing your charges of treason (or justifications for war) on the immaculate reputation of “the sixteen intelligence agencies”.

    To sew doubt about the integrity and verity of our “intelligence agencies”, is proof positive that..

    Russia is out to destroy American democracy by promoting “distrust” of government

    lol

    “strategic goal to sow discord in the U.S. political system, including the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Defendants posted derogatory information about a number of candidates,… …and disparaging Hillary Clinton

    it reads like butt-hurt on acid

    ‘We’re butt-hurt because Hillary and the DNC got exposed for colluding to subvert and corrupt the American electoral process. And we’re also butt-hurt that Hillary lost, and now she won’t be able to wage a war on Russia and the unapologetic white nationalist who runs it for the benefit of Russia and Russians.’

    There, I just interpreted the document.

    the theater of the absurd

    When everyone knows our fecal government and our institutions have all been co-opted to the service of an enemy foreign state (Israel- Duh), this ‘Russian’ hysteria looks at best to be little more than a pimp threating another pimp to stop trying to recruit his favorite whore.

    ‘stop messin with my bitch’

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    on the immaculate reputation of “the sixteen intelligence agencies”.

     

    it's already a meme

    https://www.sott.net/image/s22/452252/large/Colin_Powell.jpg
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  50. TheJester says:

    I guess I’ll have to confess to Mueller and Company that I have been saying nasty things about Hillary and Bill on social media since the 1990s.

    Indeed, I had called Hillary “the She-Bitch of the Western Universe” back in the days of bulletin boards. It was enlightening about the permanence of Internet posts when I found my jewel of acumen still floating in the ether two years later. A young girl had protested, “How dare he say such things about Hillary?”

    I dare, Mueller. What are you going to do about it? I voted for Trump and would like to see Putin as President of the United States … but, I know no Russians, I don’t use Facebook, I can’t read Cyrillic, and I generally detest everything that walks, talks, and breaths in Washingon, D.C.

    Damn, Mueller, you caught me! A conspiracy against democracy and the Government of the United States … I mean the Deep State!

    Yes, I want the same things as Putin. As a nationalist, I was hoping that maybe he could help sort out Washingon D.C. and Wall Street the way he did Moscow and Russia’s Jewish oligarchs.

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  51. @jacques sheete

    The indictment suggests that Russia is out to destroy American democracy...
     
    Whoever wrote the indictment is either ignorant or a joker or, more likely, both.

    The US constitution, in fact, was designed to kill American democracy, and did. It was an "elite" rich boys' scheme from the start. Furthermore, 'Merka went full commie under FDR nearly a century ago, so it's long been a done deal. And for the petulant little whiners who don't believe it, ask yourselves why FDR appeased Joey, why his admin was infested with people with opinions and ties from Eastern Europe, and why East Coast “frat” brat millionaires helped fund the Bolshies.

    On a related note, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said that there were "Polish perpetrators, as there were Jewish perpetrators, as there were Russian perpetrators, as there were Ukrainian and German perpetrators” in "the" Holocaust. He forgot to add that there were rich and powerful American and British perpetrators of the holocaust, and that the supposed, and no doubt exaggerated, Jewish one was small potatoes compared to the Christian holocaust.

    Any whiners can go look up the Holodomor.

    “Merka went full commie under FDR nearly a century ago, so it’s long been a done deal.”

    By “full commie” I presume you mean the commune of the chosenites.

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    By “full commie” I presume you mean the commune of the chosenites.
     
    You presume as well as assume correctly.

    Hopefully by now everyone knows where the Bolshies got their money, support and useful idiots. Same as the Zio-nutzos.
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  52. FLgeezer says:
    @CalDre

    The indictment suggests that Russia is out to destroy American democracy by promoting “distrust” of government as well as sowing “discord” in the U.S. political system while also encouraging “divisiveness” among the American people.
     
    The ((MSM)) is doing a far better job of that. How many attacks on Trump have we read or heard that he is a White supremacist, a bigot, a fascist, a traitor, from the ((MSM)), all with absolutely no evidence? How many calls for impeachment and the resultant constitutional crisis, if not civil war? (Disclaimer: I'm no Trump fan, he's also one of the "useful idiots", I'm simply noting how much vastly more divisive and undermining of unity and trust the Tribe is compared to Russia.)

    Mueller is just another deep state traitor who can file unconstitutional indictments for some folks exercising free speech on the internet while ignoring the tribal conspiracy against the US and the world. How many Jew trolls publish, or write for, major US news publications and cable channels? How many billions have dual-citizen ((Americans)) donated to the political parties to subvert US polity to serve foreign interests?

    There is exactly one foreign power/tribe that exerts an intolerable chokehold on US politics. Mueller is a tool of that power/tribe.

    Well said CalDre!

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  53. Phil

    You shouldn’t concede anything to the Democrats about Christian Russia “attacking our Democracy”…..for the US is not a democracy.

    The charge is laughable. The Democratic Party has been importing its highly racialized nonwhite Democratic Party Voting Bloc with the open intent of nullifying the Native Born White American Working Class Vote every 4 years at POTUS election time.

    Trump is waging war against Christian Russia…but for O’Sullivan…Clapper…Mueller…the Clintons…Samantha Powers….Susan Rice….Barack Obama….pederast John Podesta…..Trump’s war against Christian Russia isn’t violent enough. I think these Satanists want a thermonuclear pre-emptive strike on Christian Russia. Trump is completely onboard with the policy of gang raping and destroying Christian Russia. For some reason, the Democrats believe that White Bernie Bros and White Male Blue Collar workers should have-would have voted for the repellant Bulldyke…even though she-it expresses open hatred for these two groups.

    But you are right about the larger issue:The Democratic Party is attempting to criminalize free speech-free speech that expresses solidarity with Christian Russia and criticism post-1965 race-replacement Immigration Policy….It’s a war against Christian Russia and the Native Born White American Working Class….the intent is genocidal-mass Murder.

    The Alt Right stands with Christian Russia!!!!….no apologies…..How about you Phil?

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  54. densa says:
    @CalDre

    The indictment suggests that Russia is out to destroy American democracy by promoting “distrust” of government as well as sowing “discord” in the U.S. political system while also encouraging “divisiveness” among the American people.
     
    The ((MSM)) is doing a far better job of that. How many attacks on Trump have we read or heard that he is a White supremacist, a bigot, a fascist, a traitor, from the ((MSM)), all with absolutely no evidence? How many calls for impeachment and the resultant constitutional crisis, if not civil war? (Disclaimer: I'm no Trump fan, he's also one of the "useful idiots", I'm simply noting how much vastly more divisive and undermining of unity and trust the Tribe is compared to Russia.)

    Mueller is just another deep state traitor who can file unconstitutional indictments for some folks exercising free speech on the internet while ignoring the tribal conspiracy against the US and the world. How many Jew trolls publish, or write for, major US news publications and cable channels? How many billions have dual-citizen ((Americans)) donated to the political parties to subvert US polity to serve foreign interests?

    There is exactly one foreign power/tribe that exerts an intolerable chokehold on US politics. Mueller is a tool of that power/tribe.

    It is laughable, and yes, ignores that our country was hijacked by a country not Russia a long time ago.

    Russia is sowing distrust, discord and divisiveness? This is more of the idea that opposition to the “resistance” can only be based on hate. The “resistance” itself never propagates “distrust, discord or divisiveness. Diabolical when you think of it: opposition cannot legitimately exist. It must be caused by an evil, outside force, which justifies any means to silence it.

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  55. EugeneGur says:
    @Quartermaster
    Giraldi, you need to get off the Ukraine kick. The Ukrainian people rose on their own. They didn't need any encouragement to rise against Yanukovich's broken promise when he backed away from Europe, and tried to sign Ukraine over to Putin's kindly attentions. Ukrainians have always been restive under the Russian thumb and they have intention of being put back under it.

    They didn’t need any encouragement to rise against Yanukovich’s broken promise when he . . . tried to sign Ukraine over to Putin’s kindly attentions.

    Actually, Putin did have kind intentions. In addition to $15 billion loan with 5% interest rat, he offered Ukraine multiple joined ventures in the energy sector, space and military industry, infrastructure. It all amounted to tens of billions of dollars in investments. Recently, the formed Finance Minister under Yanukovich talked about this offer.

    Now Ukraine is ruined; its economy is in tatters; it lost pretty much all its industry; its agriculture is struggling; its infrastructure is crumbling (the second bridge just recently collapsed in Kiev); its population destitute. I don’t see any way for Ukraine out of this disaster.

    looking back, we Russians are glad that plan of Putin’s didn’t materialize. We did feed Ukraine for years before, and a lot of good it did us. So, from now on, you want independence – you pay for it.

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  56. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    The Killer Queen got so furious when reading that it took only a million or two to buy the US WH election, when compared to the billion plus she spent, that she ordered a new tub of fresh blood to soak in to rejuvenate her vampiric skin.

    Americans now know first-hand what people in Italy, Iran, Chile, Australia, Greece,Russia, Ukraine, France, El Salvador, etc already know; the Deep State doesn’t like being slighted.

    Someone’s got to pay and they don’t care how many get killed in the process of teaching the peasants an important lesson; WE are YOUR MASTERS.

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  57. Art says:

    Oh’ what a perfect ruse – a threefer – a diversion away from the deep state Obama administration wrong doing – an attack on the Israeli’s bogyman Russia – and no one goes to trail, avoiding court discovery of real wrong doing.

    The JMSM is in full force backing this ruse – Fox and CNN have both jumped on this scam – even Hannity has fallen for it.

    Rosenstein and Muller are deep state operatives – up to their eyeballs in Obama administration justice department political activities.

    The Russians that did this are rooky beginners – no harm no foul. This is totally an escape action, on the part of the deep state.

    Traitor is a dangerous word. Where does this lead? What power is the US government going to gain?

    What we should fear, is who’s next – and what is going to happen to free speech?

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Of course the most dangerous agency in the world that works to change elections – is the CIA.

    p.s. Watched the “Snowden” movie last night – if it is half true, it is totally scary – the security agencies of the US government are powerful beyond reason.

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  58. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I need this bullshit investigation to end simply because I’m sick of seeing Robert Mueller’s ugly mug on the front page every other day. The guy seriously has the ugliest pug like face. And then add on top of that his own collusion on Uranium One and the corruption of the FBI under his watch, and now this unbelievable abuse of power with no limits to his investigation, it just makes me want to puke everytime I see his face.

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  59. polistra says:

    The only important thing is that Mueller has now established a “legal” precedent for treating ANY expression of opinion as “defeating the lawful functions” of the government. He now has a “legal” basis for a full-scale pogrom, and no judge will question him.

    Mueller is operating for the Clinton mob, which suicides its enemies. No judge wants to be suicided, so all judges will implement the pogrom.

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    The only important thing is that Mueller has now established a “legal” precedent for treating ANY expression of opinion as “defeating the lawful functions” of the government. He now has a “legal” basis for a full-scale pogrom, and no judge will question him.

     

    Well I agree. And with great amazement and horror I'm following the dirty current of US' policy. It just can't be real for people in charge for destiny of great (well greatest and "indispensable" if you wish) country and the whole world to behave like imbeciles, but it is real.
    BTW some of them not stupid, just playing game according the rules, those not stupid but insane, but majority are stupid.
    The nation of zombies is how it looks like.

    What's gonna be next? The only logical continuation is to go in attack shouting "The Russians are coming!".

    And here (at UNZ) we can hear only statements like "It's not us, it's Killary, Trump, McCain ..." or "Our political system is not a democracy, but .." , "we're selecting the less shit from couple of shits" etc.

    I believe, in society one can't find even those explanations, they keep their washed braines in warm place. So we all have to relax and wait till end comes?

    Or you're sure the world (DPRK, Iran, Russia, China ...) will surrender and everything will go old way?
    Well, there is non-zero possibilty of such scenario, but not very high I beleive.
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  60. Am maintaining distance from the theater which is fiction and designed to occupy thought while need for real investigations are stopped.

    Just one thing and I disappear?

    Sheldon Adelson is a billionaire Russian-Jewish immigrant, presently a US citizen.

    He engaged political conversations with Jared Kushner and Steve Bannon and had “motive” to do so on behalf of Israel.

    A question.

    Is anyone aware of Federal investigation activity into Adelson’s potential political ties and influence among present Russian-Jewish billionaires, including expats?

    I can not separate Adelson’s candidate Trump from having a financial attachment to Russian-Jewish billionaires who to date enjoy cordial relations with President Putin.

    Plus… the fact that our Zio Corporate Media goes silent whenever President Trump’s friend Netanyahu meets with President Vladimir Putin.

    What is “Bibi’s” agenda while he meets in Moscow? Do such conversations have Adelson’s & President Trump’s blessings?

    Thanks.

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  61. The Democratic Party cares this much about democracy:0

    Christian Russians in Eastern Ukraine are being exterminated by the Trump Administration.

    The Trump Administration threatens Christian Russia over Crimea.

    Christian Russia has accused US Special Forces in Syria of being inv0lved in the Cold Blooded murder of a Russian General and two Russian Colonels back in October. I mean..this could have triggered nuclear WW3….

    But the “Putin attacked our Democracy…Pearl Harbor…Trump colluded with Putin to attack our Democracy” conspiracy rests upon the lie that Trump and Putin are good friends….which is a bold-faced lie…

    The f……g Democratic Party has pushed the world onto to a short hop and a skip down the road to thermonuclear WW3….Why are they doing this?

    Here is the answer:1)Christian Russia refuses to be economically and socially-culturally gang raped by Hillary and Bill Clinton again….2)Native Born White American Working Class resistance to demographic-racial and ec0nomic dispossession.

    We really are in the middle of a Civil War in the US in 2018….but….A Civil War in the US in 2018 is really a Race War in the US in 2018……Let’s be honest….all of this Wakanda sewage is nothing more than legalizing talk about chattel slavery for White Males on Ophra Winfrey’s Plantation….This is where it is all going……Think Chris Rock’s humorous” comments a few days ago…..

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  62. annamaria says:
    @RobinG

    ".....Defendants knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other (and with persons known and unknown to the Grand Jury) to defraud the United States by impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful functions of the government through fraud and deceit...."
     
    Are you sure that wasn't written about Israel, AIPAC, et al...?

    “One major media outlet is already suggesting that there could be consequences for American citizens who wittingly or unwittingly helped the Russians, identified in the indictment as “persons known and unknown.” A former federal prosecutor put it another way, saying “While they went to great pains to say they are not indicting any Americans today, if I was an American and I did cooperate with Russians I would be extremely frightened…”
    – Should we hold our breath to see Clinton and Harvard Boys indicted? Certain Mr. Bill Browder [a grandson of the leading US communist] was the most instrumental in shaping Magnitsky Act, i. e., a codex of anti-Russian sanctions. The scoundrel made a fortune in Russia. https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/agent-william-f-browder-smoking-gun/ri13858
    Hey, US Congress, look at your Browder and your Wall Street masters of the universe (to whom your serve), which have been profiteering nicely in Russia. According to Mueller’s indictment, there should be a small army of financiers (led by the Clintons) awaiting a trial for their cooperation with Russians.

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    "Should we hold our breath to see Clinton and Harvard Boys [& Bill Browder] indicted?"

    No, but I wonder about the 3rd or 4th tier, where anyone who posted a hopeful word about Trump, or a disparaging remark about Hilligula, will be rounded up. Thanks for your substantive references, and see you in stir! :)
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  63. Rurik says:
    @Rurik

    ...as claimed by the heads of the intelligence agencies, though, as usual, evidence for the claim is lacking.
     
    the boy who cried wolf

    After Colon Powell went to the UN to 'justify' attacking Iraq for it's WMD, the evidence for which was based entirely on the word of our 'sixteen intelligence agencies'...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oinrn3SaSRg

    And this whole ludicrous farce of "Russian collusion" has been based and reported as fact on the 'irreproachable' 'reputation' of these same "sixteen intelligence agencies" - as if it were the word of God Himself. So no actual evidence is necessary when you're basing your charges of treason (or justifications for war) on the immaculate reputation of "the sixteen intelligence agencies".

    To sew doubt about the integrity and verity of our "intelligence agencies", is proof positive that..

    Russia is out to destroy American democracy by promoting “distrust” of government
     
    lol

    “strategic goal to sow discord in the U.S. political system, including the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Defendants posted derogatory information about a number of candidates,... ...and disparaging Hillary Clinton
     
    it reads like butt-hurt on acid

    'We're butt-hurt because Hillary and the DNC got exposed for colluding to subvert and corrupt the American electoral process. And we're also butt-hurt that Hillary lost, and now she won't be able to wage a war on Russia and the unapologetic white nationalist who runs it for the benefit of Russia and Russians.'


    There, I just interpreted the document.

    the theater of the absurd

    When everyone knows our fecal government and our institutions have all been co-opted to the service of an enemy foreign state (Israel- Duh), this 'Russian' hysteria looks at best to be little more than a pimp threating another pimp to stop trying to recruit his favorite whore.

    'stop messin with my bitch'

    http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/96/cf/5a/96cf5a0553df310234c104380998096e.jpg

    on the immaculate reputation of “the sixteen intelligence agencies”.

    it’s already a meme

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  64. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Agitprop. Trump promised to have good relations with Russia, but they look worse than in the cold war. Look at all the homeless vets on the streets begging. Trump needs to end that, but instead throws money at the MIC. This is Trump’s most important role and he’s playing it perfectly. The more Trump-Russia noise, the more money that gets thrown. Trump racist, Trump womanizer are minor parts the producers wrote in.

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  65. chris says:
    @yurivku

    Does that mean that the hundreds of American citizens who appeared on their programs prior to the 2016 election to talk about national politics will be next in line for punishment? Stay tuned.
     
    I hope they will. This will add some dynamics on your moody circus. Looking forward to it.

    Let’s not forget about the slimy limey John Oliver; will he be indicted next ?

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    I like that 'slimy limey'. (Grin)
    , @Bragadocious
    Oliver has that unmistakable English pedo look, and therefore appeals to certain people in charge of our major media. There's also a certain portion of Americans who like to be put down by English people. They all tend to be Hillary voters and government workers. I think Oliver's safe, pending some damaging information about his private proclivities.
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  66. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The real question is whether the 13 Russians wrote the Patriot Act. This is just the kind of thing Russians would do to completely destroy our democracy. Why in a fake democracy should the Government have secrets from the People? Why in a fake democracy are the slaves allowed to vote for one of two people the masters choose years in advance? Ask the Russians, since they want to destroy our fake democracy and create a faker democracy.

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    Zionist dual citizen neocons who run the U.S. gov wrote the Patriot Act and every other law that is destroying America for the Zionist NWO.
    , @annamaria
    "The real question is whether the 13 Russians wrote the Patriot Act. This is just the kind of thing Russians would do to completely destroy our democracy."
    -- Brilliant!
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  67. joe webb says:

    from NYT a few days ago, on the Mueller capers.

    Are you laughing yet? Several articles in jewyorktimes on the teapot tempest. They spent several million dollars on their trolling. Is this a joke, when the CIA spooks spend billions doing the same thing?

    “Such anecdotes are rare examples of how intelligence agencies work covertly to influence political outcomes abroad. The C.I.A. has conducted such operations for decades, but both Mr. Mueller’s indictment and an intelligence assessment last year present a startling example — unprecedented in its scope and audacity — of a foreign government working to help elect an American president.”

    WE HAVE BEEN DOING THE SAME ‘FOR DECADES’…?? HUH? HUH? AND HUH?

    The CIA’s billions of dollars vs. Russia’s few million…Another remark in the article says that the Russians began this trolling op 4 years ago. Excuse me? What about Russia’s other operations of a spook nature?. Are they dumb or what? Maybe they helped Obongo get elected to really fuc us up. Maybe they have been funding NAACP for decades. One of the claims in the article is that Black Lives Matter got some jive from the Ruskies too. I mean, I mean…is this all they got?

    Come to think about it, is this all Mueller got? Is this all the jewyorktimes got? Putin gets 80% of the Russian vote….where is the CIA anyway? Where is all that US taxpayer dough going anyway? Or take Venezuela…How come we have not got a pro-yanqui there for president? Or, or…gee whiz. And how did our oil get under A-rab sand, etc?

    Think about it. With the social (anti-social? ) media spawning billions of messages ( I once saw a run of smelt spawn in San Francisco Bay around Sausalito that turned the water milky-white…millions if not billions of little eggs and sperm squirming toward their objects of desire) of hate and love directed to the election….the ethernet like the fish spawn, or the Milky Way..”billions and billions” …enough to send you to bed, pulling the covers over your head. Gee whiz Dorothy, are we in Kansas yet? etc. And the Ruskies…accounting for probably one per cent of the total trash on the Internet? If that.

    And did they think to troll the White Nationalist websites? Nah, let ‘em alone….they mostly…mostly..are doing a better job than we Ruskies could ever do.

    The Russia caper should be held up as evidence of Russian incompetence and bungling. The Russians? Pussies. Leave them alone to self-destruct.

    Jeeez, the US is self-destructing all on our own. The Russians, if they had any brains, would spend their money at home, not to bother helping us in our own
    bonfire of inanities of racial equality and Diversity perversity and importing the wretched refuse of the planet.

    Hands Off Ruskies!! Let us go to hell in our own American Way…City on a Hilll, a beacon for all the low-life yearning for free money and white pussy. Come one come all. Every liberal family will put you up and share their daughters with you. We luv you and certainly don’t have any guns.

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    Joe, Joe, Joe, it's a different world with the web, isn't it? A little scary how my computer anticipates my curiosity, so up pops Yuri Bezmenov. This is from way back in 1984, before PC's, FB, powerpoint, and the NSA knowing our every keystroke. Nevertheless, the calculated psychological profiling is timeless.

    The psy-ops are surely even more complex now, and we know that our [and all] intel agencies are doing the same (see Ukraine). His explanation of the development of useless idiots is priceless. I especially enjoyed his take on navel-gazing hippies and the demoralization of the nation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4&spfreload=5
    Yuri Bezmenov: Deception Was My Job
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  68. @Joe Hide
    Mr. Geraldo,
    Great article. We need more like this.

    Mr. Geraldo

    Geraldo doesn’t write for UNZ, he mostly hangs around Fox. Mr. Philip Giraldi, however, wrote this article.

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  69. AnonFromTN [AKA "Anon"] says:

    Anon from TN
    As there is no substance to Russia-gate, but Mueller and many others clearly want to keep feeding at the Federal trough, I am waiting for the emergence of the “blue dress” in some form. Some might consider this view cynical, but I think it is just plain realistic.

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  70. @Anonymous
    The real question is whether the 13 Russians wrote the Patriot Act. This is just the kind of thing Russians would do to completely destroy our democracy. Why in a fake democracy should the Government have secrets from the People? Why in a fake democracy are the slaves allowed to vote for one of two people the masters choose years in advance? Ask the Russians, since they want to destroy our fake democracy and create a faker democracy.

    Zionist dual citizen neocons who run the U.S. gov wrote the Patriot Act and every other law that is destroying America for the Zionist NWO.

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    >Zionist dual citizen neocons who run the U.S. gov wrote the Patriot Act and every other law that is destroying America for the Zionist NWO.

    Apparently they have also revised the Pledge of Allegiance. Just heard from a teacher friend that a
    staff member today recited the Pledge over the school PA system thusly: "...one nation under Gosh...".
    The kids were likely too busy preparing for their Holocaust Studies test to have noticed.
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  71. Jasken says:

    Remember, “We Came, We Saw, He Died?” Now THAT was meddling!

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    Let me try to explain the “rationale” here. The US intervention in Libya was OK because Libya wasn’t a democracy. Meddling in US affairs is not OK because US is “democracy”.

    Especially is not OK when an imperfect democracy like Russia tries to meddle into the election process of a perfect democracy.

    How can any democracy get more perfect than US? You vote for democrats – they rule for 8 years, you are dissatisfied with them and then you punish them really severely by voting for republicans who in their turn rule for 8 years and then you punish them by voting for democrats, and the cycle repeats itself endlessly.

    Do you see now what makes a perfect democracy and why it has to be defended? The lesser democracies are subject to well meant “tweaking” (or worse) by the perfect democracy in order to make them as good as them.

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  72. On its face, it sound more like an operation home grown and intended as a means of supporting a case any candidate who ran against Sec Clinton , who was not a democrat.

    The only aspect that makes Mr Trump a credible lose fitting suspect is that he conducted business in Russia. Pres. Trump is the foil for a scheme that could be directed against anyone who challenged the democrats. Any candidate who chose to challenge our policies in the Ukraine, the Middle East. . .

    I would be curious about the dates, the in formation that transpired in their planning, including meeting dates, where, who. The agenda doesn’t make much sense. The depth, breadth of interference looks to small to to matter. If I put on my conspiracy foil hat, I can imagine the enemies of Pres Putin here in the US many of them wealthy, setting up random shops of operation with the intended goal of making them appear as KGB operations or something similar. So that when the the time comes, they would be uncovered and any opposition candidate would be blunted by charges of espionage and Russian collusion. That would have included enticing a candidate with promises of support from said organizations. Unfortunately for the democrats, candidate Trump had no need of such support, politically or financially.

    But that is my tin foil hat conspiracy mode.

    Indictments are pressure points, how much criminal activity is really at play is hard to ascertain. yj indictments to pay off have to do more than get pleas of misdemeanors from owners of nebulous business owners, whose primary goal was to bilk money from unsuspecting citizens into what might very well be a phony scheme to get political donations for profit under the rules of 501 C nontaxable corporations.

    make some posters
    create some radio spots
    announce a rally here another one there
    request donations

    One wonders if similar shops were set up to bilk democrats, but remain under the radar because the focus is Pres Trump.

    At the end of the elections — dissolve the agency and sock away five times what one invested. If even the investment records were themselves not fictional.

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  73. Mokiki says:

    This clownish plot could have easily been foiled by a moose and a squirrel.

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  74. If Hillary Clinton had a pet cockroach….wouldn’t she-it name it “Mueller”?

    Come home here Mueller…sit Mueller…..

    Mueller the cockroach….Hillary’s pet cockroach….although several world renowned entymologists have argued convincingly that John Podesta is in fact Hillary Clinton’s pet cockroach…..

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  75. @Mokiki
    This clownish plot could have easily been foiled by a moose and a squirrel.

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  76. My response to Mokiki is “keel myoose!”. More seriously, what the entire Mueller escapade shows is that the yankee state has degenerated into a fascist secret police morass and that the rule of law and a
    constitutional basis of legitimacy are now totally absent. Mueller and other deep state lackeys are enemies of the people. As the article sort of indicates, they have removed the mask, and the regime claims the right to criminalize anyone who chooses to resist in any fashion. Oh, and the whole thing is a publicity fraud, since none of the Russians can be extradited because no crime exists according to legal standards, which still obtain in Russia but don’t seem to obtain in yankeedom or its satellites.

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  77. Cyrano says:
    @Jasken
    Remember, "We Came, We Saw, He Died?" Now THAT was meddling!

    Let me try to explain the “rationale” here. The US intervention in Libya was OK because Libya wasn’t a democracy. Meddling in US affairs is not OK because US is “democracy”.

    Especially is not OK when an imperfect democracy like Russia tries to meddle into the election process of a perfect democracy.

    How can any democracy get more perfect than US? You vote for democrats – they rule for 8 years, you are dissatisfied with them and then you punish them really severely by voting for republicans who in their turn rule for 8 years and then you punish them by voting for democrats, and the cycle repeats itself endlessly.

    Do you see now what makes a perfect democracy and why it has to be defended? The lesser democracies are subject to well meant “tweaking” (or worse) by the perfect democracy in order to make them as good as them.

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  78. FLgeezer says:
    @DESERT FOX
    Zionist dual citizen neocons who run the U.S. gov wrote the Patriot Act and every other law that is destroying America for the Zionist NWO.

    >Zionist dual citizen neocons who run the U.S. gov wrote the Patriot Act and every other law that is destroying America for the Zionist NWO.

    Apparently they have also revised the Pledge of Allegiance. Just heard from a teacher friend that a
    staff member today recited the Pledge over the school PA system thusly: “…one nation under Gosh…”.
    The kids were likely too busy preparing for their Holocaust Studies test to have noticed.

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  79. @CalDre

    The indictment suggests that Russia is out to destroy American democracy by promoting “distrust” of government as well as sowing “discord” in the U.S. political system while also encouraging “divisiveness” among the American people.
     
    The ((MSM)) is doing a far better job of that. How many attacks on Trump have we read or heard that he is a White supremacist, a bigot, a fascist, a traitor, from the ((MSM)), all with absolutely no evidence? How many calls for impeachment and the resultant constitutional crisis, if not civil war? (Disclaimer: I'm no Trump fan, he's also one of the "useful idiots", I'm simply noting how much vastly more divisive and undermining of unity and trust the Tribe is compared to Russia.)

    Mueller is just another deep state traitor who can file unconstitutional indictments for some folks exercising free speech on the internet while ignoring the tribal conspiracy against the US and the world. How many Jew trolls publish, or write for, major US news publications and cable channels? How many billions have dual-citizen ((Americans)) donated to the political parties to subvert US polity to serve foreign interests?

    There is exactly one foreign power/tribe that exerts an intolerable chokehold on US politics. Mueller is a tool of that power/tribe.

    Hey CalDre, You hit the nail right on the head. I couldn’t have said it better.

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  80. Wally says:
    @chris
    These incitements have the hallmarks of the first tier of the attack. They are the very thin ice on which the case is to be built and their purpose is to later serve as background noise for the entire case being built against Trump.

    Compare these activities to those of the U.K. citizen Steel.

    Nunes breaks it down.

    Let’s Play 10 Questions
    Nunes’ New Approach To Demand Answers On The Dossier

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/20/nunes-letters-trump-dossier/

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    I agree, Wally except for the fact brought up by a couple of journalists, that Nunes released his version of the FISA memo, only after having (days before) voted to extend the expanded FISA enabling law.

    If at the end of the process, there are no indictments of key operatives in the anti-Tump coup for treason, this will all have just been Kabuki theater for the masses.

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  81. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Russiagate is the opposite of Watergate. It should really be called Deepstategate.

    Watergate was about the Nixon administration trying to COVER UP its role in the break-in, and it was about the media, deep state, and Democrats working together to UNCOVER the truth.

    Deepstategate is the very opposite. It’s about the deep state, media, and Democrats trying to COVER UP their dirty deeds by pretending to UNCOVER something that Trump and company didn’t even do.
    It’s a bogus pretense at Uncovering in order to Cover up their own foul deeds and also to de-legitimize a totally innocent president because he’s not on board with globalism. It is also to prevent any rapprochement between the US and Russia because Jews hate Russia and because Pentagon needs an enemy.

    It’s time to call it Deepstategate.

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    "Watergate was about the Nixon administration trying to COVER UP its role in the break-in, and it was about the media, deep state, and Democrats working together to UNCOVER the truth.

    Deepstategate is the very opposite. It’s about the deep state, media, and Democrats trying to COVER UP their dirty deeds by pretending to UNCOVER something that Trump and company didn’t even do."

    Good summary!
    Except, there are questions about the real Watergate story. You might call it Watergate-gate.

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  82. @JoaoAlfaiate
    Russian influence? Gimme a break! How does Russian influence stack up against the requirement in Kansas that contractors working for the state have to swear they don't participate in BDS? And there is a similar pro Israel law on the books in Texas and in other states too.

    I'm sure the political elites in DC like to use the FBI to fight their political battles but as an ordinary citizen I wish the FBI would spend a bit more time investigating folks that threaten mass murder in our schools.

    I wish the FBI would spend more time playing hookie from work, or getting drunk, or doing anything else that wouldn’t cause harm to ordinary Americans.

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  83. Non says:

    , actually Watergate was Deepstategate too!

    https://whowhatwhy.org/2017/06/17/watergate-downing-nixon-part-1/

    Watergate was CIA purging Nixon; Russiagate is CIA trying, and so far, failing, to purge Trump. The new element is the use of illegal war propaganda. CIA tasked its ongoing war-propaganda project to tar Trump with some of the Russian dirt it fabricates. Among other ruses, Langley used famous CIA secret agent Felix Sater to rub off his Russian smell on Trump. The operation supports CIA’s plan and conspiracy for war on Russia in two ways: directly, by demonizing Russia; and indirectly, by hobbling Trump, a presidential candidate of uncertain fealty suspected of pacifism.

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    Non said: "Watergate was CIA purging Nixon."

    Hi Non,

    Can not describe your above words as flippant but research is needed.

    During the mid-1990's, I had a terrific learning experience by reading a book written by Len Colodny, a private investigator & relative "nobody."

    The book is on Watergate & is titled, "Silent Coup." The work raised many eyebrows as to what really caused Nixon's disgraced political fall.

    No doubt, Non, the CIA had a role in "purging" Nixon. Len Colodny researched & interviewed Watergate "players," for example G. Gordon Liddy and John Mitchell.
    "Silent Coup" was smacked down by reviewer Stephen Ambrose but others were more objective and picked-up on the scent of the JCOS, Pentagon.

    In fact, "60 Minutes" was poised to run a feature on the remarkable book but intimidated producers drew back. Again, true history down with a T.K.O.

    Popularized Fake History is the profitable future for "Russiagate" and we might even get a blockbuster film out of the charade..., "All the Russian's Presidential Men."

    Thanks, Non.
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  84. Notice says:

    Since no collusion took place between the Trump and any Russians, shouldnt Jeff Sessions tell Mueller to sew this thing up and go home now. Its been a year. There was no obstruction, no collusion, nothing. Its time for the country to move on.

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    It will never move on. It's like a permanent inquisition, slouching around, looking for witches, sometimes torturing and burning a couple of girls for sexual gratification and mass appeal. The rubes are both amused and reminded to keep in line.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Sessions is busy with REALLLLLY important priorities like threatening Americans who smoke marijuana.
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  85. Z-man says:
    @chris
    Let's not forget about the slimy limey John Oliver; will he be indicted next ?

    I like that ‘slimy limey’. (Grin)

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  86. Z-man says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Mr. Geraldo
     
    Geraldo doesn't write for UNZ, he mostly hangs around Fox. Mr. Philip Giraldi, however, wrote this article.

    He’s still looking for Capone’s safe. LOL!!!

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  87. El Dato says:

    Definitely allows one to establish lists of “forever I’m good doggie” reporters and think-tankers that need to get the full Pinochet treatment when the revolution comes.

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  88. El Dato says:
    @Notice
    Since no collusion took place between the Trump and any Russians, shouldnt Jeff Sessions tell Mueller to sew this thing up and go home now. Its been a year. There was no obstruction, no collusion, nothing. Its time for the country to move on.

    It will never move on. It’s like a permanent inquisition, slouching around, looking for witches, sometimes torturing and burning a couple of girls for sexual gratification and mass appeal. The rubes are both amused and reminded to keep in line.

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    Lamestream media is making more money than they have in years. Bashing Trump is good for the bottom line.

    -------
    Schumer, Schiff, Rosenstein take turns like Khamenev & Zinoviev, or Brandeis and Frankfurter. Sayanim at work and play.

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  89. RobinG says:
    @annamaria
    "One major media outlet is already suggesting that there could be consequences for American citizens who wittingly or unwittingly helped the Russians, identified in the indictment as “persons known and unknown.” A former federal prosecutor put it another way, saying “While they went to great pains to say they are not indicting any Americans today, if I was an American and I did cooperate with Russians I would be extremely frightened…”
    -- Should we hold our breath to see Clinton and Harvard Boys indicted? Certain Mr. Bill Browder [a grandson of the leading US communist] was the most instrumental in shaping Magnitsky Act, i. e., a codex of anti-Russian sanctions. The scoundrel made a fortune in Russia. https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/agent-william-f-browder-smoking-gun/ri13858
    Hey, US Congress, look at your Browder and your Wall Street masters of the universe (to whom your serve), which have been profiteering nicely in Russia. According to Mueller's indictment, there should be a small army of financiers (led by the Clintons) awaiting a trial for their cooperation with Russians.

    “Should we hold our breath to see Clinton and Harvard Boys [& Bill Browder] indicted?”

    No, but I wonder about the 3rd or 4th tier, where anyone who posted a hopeful word about Trump, or a disparaging remark about Hilligula, will be rounded up. Thanks for your substantive references, and see you in stir! :)

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  90. Zumbuddi says:
    @El Dato
    It will never move on. It's like a permanent inquisition, slouching around, looking for witches, sometimes torturing and burning a couple of girls for sexual gratification and mass appeal. The rubes are both amused and reminded to keep in line.

    Lamestream media is making more money than they have in years. Bashing Trump is good for the bottom line.

    ——-
    Schumer, Schiff, Rosenstein take turns like Khamenev & Zinoviev, or Brandeis and Frankfurter. Sayanim at work and play.

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  91. geokat62 says:

    PCR’s take on the latest developments in Russiagate.

    He entitled the article, Devin Nunes for President, Ray McGovern for CIA Director. I would have added Philip Giraldi for Secretary of State:

    [MORE]

    This is an extraordinary and highly truthful article by former CIA official Ray McGovern who was the responsible official for the daily briefing of the President of the United States. Be sure to read it:http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48824.htm

    McGovern has proven over and over on many occasions that he is a person of integrity, honor, and intelligence. Ray McGovern should be the Director of the CIA. He would be welcomed by the CIA analysts who resent their political use, and we would have an honest intelligence agency, which is what we need.

    Rep. Nunes, Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee said that those in the FBI and Obama Justice (sic) Department who intentionally orchestrated false charges against the President of the United States will be put on trial, if they have violated the law as they are no longer tolerated as being above the law. In my opinion, it is a foregone conclusion that they have violated the law of the United States of America.

    Rep. Nunes, who is likely to be assassinated by the FBI, CIA, military/security complex, or DNC at any time, said that:

    The committee is closing down its investigation into possible collusion between Moscow and the Trump campaign; no evidence of collusion was found.

    The apparently widespread practice of “unmasking” the identities of Americans under surveillance. On this point, Nunes said, “In the last administration they were unmasking hundreds, and hundreds, and hundreds of Americans’ names. They were unmasking for what I would say, for lack of a better definition, were for political purposes.”

    Asked about Schiff’s criticism that Nunes behaved improperly on what he called the “midnight run to the White House,” Nunes responded that the stories were untrue. “Well, most of the time I ignore political nonsense in this town,” he said. “What I will say is that all of those stories were totally fake from the beginning.”

    Adam Schiff is, in my opinion, clearly the CIA/FBI’s point man in the House. Everything the piece of shit Schiff says is supportive of the CIA/FBI plot against the President of the United States and the American people. Hopefully Schiff, in my opinion a totally corrupt individual devoid or all integrity, will be in the dock with Brennan, Comey, Mueller, Claper, Hillary and sent to prison with them.

    I remember when the Democratic Party stood for the working class and justice. I rememer the great justices of the US Supreme Court from the Democratic Party—William Douglas, Willian Brennan, and Thurgood Marshall. These were real Americans who protected Americans’ civil rights and held the corrupt government to account.

    No more. The Democratic Party under the Clinton’s money-grubbing influence is even more corrupt than the money-grubbing Republicans.

    In the United States there is no one to represent the rule of law but Devin Nunes. Stand by him as he will be under heavy attack from the utterly corrupt presstitutes who never serve truth, only their pocket book enriched by their subsidies from the CIA.

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    Hmmmmm...is this an attempt to engender comments on PCR's article? You know that he doesn't allow comments on his articles.
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  92. @Non
    @Anon, actually Watergate was Deepstategate too!

    https://whowhatwhy.org/2017/06/17/watergate-downing-nixon-part-1/

    Watergate was CIA purging Nixon; Russiagate is CIA trying, and so far, failing, to purge Trump. The new element is the use of illegal war propaganda. CIA tasked its ongoing war-propaganda project to tar Trump with some of the Russian dirt it fabricates. Among other ruses, Langley used famous CIA secret agent Felix Sater to rub off his Russian smell on Trump. The operation supports CIA's plan and conspiracy for war on Russia in two ways: directly, by demonizing Russia; and indirectly, by hobbling Trump, a presidential candidate of uncertain fealty suspected of pacifism.

    Non said: “Watergate was CIA purging Nixon.”

    Hi Non,

    Can not describe your above words as flippant but research is needed.

    During the mid-1990′s, I had a terrific learning experience by reading a book written by Len Colodny, a private investigator & relative “nobody.”

    The book is on Watergate & is titled, “Silent Coup.” The work raised many eyebrows as to what really caused Nixon’s disgraced political fall.

    No doubt, Non, the CIA had a role in “purging” Nixon. Len Colodny researched & interviewed Watergate “players,” for example G. Gordon Liddy and John Mitchell.
    “Silent Coup” was smacked down by reviewer Stephen Ambrose but others were more objective and picked-up on the scent of the JCOS, Pentagon.

    In fact, “60 Minutes” was poised to run a feature on the remarkable book but intimidated producers drew back. Again, true history down with a T.K.O.

    Popularized Fake History is the profitable future for “Russiagate” and we might even get a blockbuster film out of the charade…, “All the Russian’s Presidential Men.”

    Thanks, Non.

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    Russ Baker's Family of Secrets has quite a lot on the take-down of Nixon.
    , @Alden
    I read Silent Coup. It’s good Nixon the anti White affirmative action president was austed for whatever reason.

    Affirmative action, section 8 creating the affirmative action Hispanic race by executive order, expanded federal funding for radical NGOs, CETA, and dozens of other affirmative action programs imposed at every level of government, Nixon was even more anti White than Johnson.

    The damage Nixon did to Whites still holds. But at least he was disgraced and forced to resign, despite the fact that he was handled by the Israeli/ Rockefeller asset Kissinger.

    Nixon’s obedience to Kissinger’s orders winning the 1973 war for Israel didn’t help him when the Jewish WAPO and NYSlimes went after him.

    Nixon was an even worse president for Whites than even Johnson and Obama.

    Look upon his disgrace as just retribution for what Nixon did to Whites
    Note that the Jewish radical NGO young radicals he funded have ruled the nation since the 1990s
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  93. annamaria says:
    @Anonymous
    The real question is whether the 13 Russians wrote the Patriot Act. This is just the kind of thing Russians would do to completely destroy our democracy. Why in a fake democracy should the Government have secrets from the People? Why in a fake democracy are the slaves allowed to vote for one of two people the masters choose years in advance? Ask the Russians, since they want to destroy our fake democracy and create a faker democracy.

    “The real question is whether the 13 Russians wrote the Patriot Act. This is just the kind of thing Russians would do to completely destroy our democracy.”
    – Brilliant!

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  94. Skeptikal says:

    Seems to me that only an ageing warrior a la Mueller could bring such a ridiculous indictment. That is, only someone to whom the world of social media is basically alien. Thus, perfectly standard operating procedure looks dangerous and subversive. maybe it is, but in that case the whole social media scene is dangerous and subversive. But what does an old fart like Mueller even know about that? He is totally a fish out of water in this world and his indictment reflects his cluelessness. How is one to take any of this seriously?

    He is as clueless as Hillary, fiddling around with email servers and/but not really understanding a g.d. thing about them.

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    "an ageing warrior a la Mueller"

    The trouble with that description is that Mueller isn't a warrior, aging or otherwise. Mueller is a doddering old shyster who wandered into a political appointment and started a career as a federal criminal when he became FBI director.

    Now he has foolishly agreed to try one more trick for his masters and has managed only to indict himself and his former colleagues. When he hangs, he will have knotted his own noose and placed it around his own scrawny neck.

    , @annamaria
    A repost from Zerohedge: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-20/russian-troll-farm-indictment-shredded-journalist-who-first-profiled-it-2015
    "Our "troll farm" is better funded than theirs...
    The United States, through a Non-Governmental Organization (NGO) called The National Endowment for Democracy [currently the Lobby arm] has spent over $27,000,000 since 2013 in Russia to “promote democracy”. The National Endowment for Democracy (NED) is a U.S. non-profit soft power organization that was founded in 1983 with the stated goal of promoting democracy abroad. It is funded primarily through an annual allocation from the U.S. Congress in the form of a grant awarded through the United States Information Agency (USIA).
    ...
    Former Congressman Ron Paul also argued against NED funding stating that NED has "very little to do with democracy. It is an organization that uses US tax money to actually subvert democracy, by showering funding on favored political parties or movements overseas. It underwrites color-coded ‘people’s revolutions’ overseas that look more like pages out of Lenin’s writings on stealing power than genuine indigenous democratic movements."
    Investigative reporter and editor of Consortiumnews Robert Parry has characterized NED as a "neocon slush fund," whose founding was the brainchild of Reagan Administration CIA Director William Casey and its leading propagandist Walter Raymond Jr., then on the staff of the National Security Council. The idea was to set up an organization funded by the U.S. Congress to take over CIA programs that attempted to influence foreign elections by promoting the selection of candidates who supported U.S. policy and would "do what the U.S. government tells them to do.
    See screen grab of chart here from USAID showing NED spending in Russia: https://imgur.com/DuQwJZW
    https://explorer.usaid.gov/query?country_name=Russia&fiscal_year=2016&t…
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Endowment_for_Democracy
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/28/national-endowment-for-de…
    Interference in elections
    NED’s Statement of Principles and Objectives, adopted in 1984, asserts that “No Endowment funds may be used to finance the campaigns of candidates for public office.” But the ways to circumvent the spirit of such a prohibition are not difficult to come up with; as with American elections, there’s “hard money” and there’s “soft money”.
    As described in the “Elections” and “Interventions” chapters, NED successfully manipulated elections in Nicaragua in 1990 and Mongolia in 1996; helped to overthrow democratically elected governments in Bulgaria in 1990 and Albania in 1991 and 1992; and worked to defeat the candidate for prime minister of Slovakia in 2002 who was out of favor in Washington. And from 1999 to 2004, NED heavily funded members of the opposition to President Hugo Chavez in Venezuela to subvert his rule and to support a referendum to unseat him.
    Additionally, in the 1990s and afterward, NED supported a coalition of groups in Haiti known as the Democratic Convergence, who were united in their opposition to Jean-Bertrand Aristide and his progressive ideology, while he was in and out of the office of the president.
    The Endowment has made its weight felt in the electoral-political process in numerous other countries."
    https://williamblum.org/chapters/rogue-state/trojan-horse-the-national-
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  95. Skeptikal says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    Non said: "Watergate was CIA purging Nixon."

    Hi Non,

    Can not describe your above words as flippant but research is needed.

    During the mid-1990's, I had a terrific learning experience by reading a book written by Len Colodny, a private investigator & relative "nobody."

    The book is on Watergate & is titled, "Silent Coup." The work raised many eyebrows as to what really caused Nixon's disgraced political fall.

    No doubt, Non, the CIA had a role in "purging" Nixon. Len Colodny researched & interviewed Watergate "players," for example G. Gordon Liddy and John Mitchell.
    "Silent Coup" was smacked down by reviewer Stephen Ambrose but others were more objective and picked-up on the scent of the JCOS, Pentagon.

    In fact, "60 Minutes" was poised to run a feature on the remarkable book but intimidated producers drew back. Again, true history down with a T.K.O.

    Popularized Fake History is the profitable future for "Russiagate" and we might even get a blockbuster film out of the charade..., "All the Russian's Presidential Men."

    Thanks, Non.

    Russ Baker’s Family of Secrets has quite a lot on the take-down of Nixon.

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    For funding all those radical
    NGOs and affirmative action Nixon should have been taken down in February of 1969. Instead the WAPO and NYSlimes waited till he obeyed their instructions Re affirmative action and funding radical NGOs.
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  96. The fact that Mueller isn’t in prison for treason in the cover up of 9/11, the fact that war criminals Bush, Clinton, 0bama, Wolfowitz, Kristol, are all still free and not in prison tells you all you need to know about Banana Republic USSA. CIA/Mossad needs to be shut down now.
    How many millions of innocent people murdered over lies and greed? Countries destroyed for the temporary benefit of criminally insane Israel, MIC, and the bankster cabal.
    This is madness, if something doesn’t change, very soon, they will have their hell on Earth.
    The road these lunatics running DC have us on will only end in misery and suffering for everyone.
    They killed JFK for trying to put an end to this insanity. Ending the Fed, forcing AIPAC, Israel lobby to register under FARA, preventing them from getting their hands on nukes, they murdered him for it.
    Remember the false flag attack by Israel on USS Liberty. Same as 9/11.
    You folks better wake up, they plan on bringing this war back to America when they’re done with their “project” over there. Why do you think they want to disarm America so badly for? Bolshevik Revolution 2.0.
    Heres what they talked about doing to 0bama if he got out of line:

    Atlanta Jewish Times featured a column by its owner-publisher suggesting that U.S.-based Israeli Mossad agents might someday need to “order a hit” on the president of the United States.

    http://original.antiwar.com/alison-weir/2012/01/24/israeli-assassinations-and-american-presidents/

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/284979-ajt.html

    On Jan. 13 the Atlanta Jewish Times featured a column by its owner-publisher suggesting that Israel might someday need to “order a hit” on the president of the United States.
    In the column, publisher Andrew Adler describes a scenario in which Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu would need to “give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel.”
    The purpose? So that the vice president could then take office and dictate U.S. policies that would help the Jewish state “obliterate its enemies.”
    Adler wrote that it is highly likely that the idea “has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circles.”
    Numerous Jewish leaders quickly condemned Adler, who has now apologized for the column, resigned, and put the newspaper up for sale. An Israeli columnist noted that the hatred being stirred up against Obama is similar to conditions in Israel that led to the murder of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin by a Jewish extremist.

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    They killed JFK for trying to put an end to this insanity. Ending the Fed, forcing AIPAC, Israel lobby to register under FARA, preventing them from getting their hands on nukes, they murdered him for it.
     
    The first time I came across someone who put forward this hypothesis was when I read Michael Collins Piper's Final Judgment: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy.

    The second time was when I read Grant Smith’s Big Israel:

    In 1963, the Kennedy administration was secretly fighting Israel’s nuclear weapons development program and had even secretly ordered Israel’s top—and largely foreign funded—lobbying organization the American Zionist Council to register as a foreign agent and openly report its public relations and secret lobbying expenditures on behalf of Israel.

    When Kennedy was assassinated the following November and conspiracy theories about Russian and Cuban complicity began to swirl, nobody of significance speculated about possible Israeli connections. That is because—as has become the norm in such cases—the relevant and highly detailed government records about the administration’s initiative to keep Israel’s lobby in check were effectively kept bottled up, in this case classified as secret until 2008. The story of JFK’s fight against the Israeli nuclear program was similarly withheld from the public until fairly recently. Nevertheless, one outcome is clear. JFK’s assassination settled both issues.
     
    The third time was when I viewed Brother Nathanael's video, Growing Up With The New York Times, in which he states:

    My father was fond of [Kennedy] too, more because he was a Democrat, (Jews voted Democrat in those days), and knew that JFK opposed the nuclear ambitions of Israel which may have been the reason he was shot.

    His attempts to getting to the bottom of Israel’s secret nuke program may have played a big part in his assassination.
     
    https://youtu.be/JmlfHMmDKuY

    It seems more and more people are willing to entertain this hypothesis as a plausible alternative to the official narrative.
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  97. Skeptikal says:
    @Anon
    Russiagate is the opposite of Watergate. It should really be called Deepstategate.

    Watergate was about the Nixon administration trying to COVER UP its role in the break-in, and it was about the media, deep state, and Democrats working together to UNCOVER the truth.

    Deepstategate is the very opposite. It's about the deep state, media, and Democrats trying to COVER UP their dirty deeds by pretending to UNCOVER something that Trump and company didn't even do.
    It's a bogus pretense at Uncovering in order to Cover up their own foul deeds and also to de-legitimize a totally innocent president because he's not on board with globalism. It is also to prevent any rapprochement between the US and Russia because Jews hate Russia and because Pentagon needs an enemy.

    It's time to call it Deepstategate.

    “Watergate was about the Nixon administration trying to COVER UP its role in the break-in, and it was about the media, deep state, and Democrats working together to UNCOVER the truth.

    Deepstategate is the very opposite. It’s about the deep state, media, and Democrats trying to COVER UP their dirty deeds by pretending to UNCOVER something that Trump and company didn’t even do.”

    Good summary!
    Except, there are questions about the real Watergate story. You might call it Watergate-gate.

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  98. Non says:

    Thanks, Chuck. That book was new to me. It’s interesting to see Haig fingered for Watergate because of Haig’s role as presidential guardian (“I’m in charge here”) during Operation Nine Lives, the CIA’s botched assassination of Reagan.

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article164191.html

    https://whowhatwhy.org/2016/08/16/bush-angle-reagan-shooting-still-unresolved-hinckley-walks/

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    Who Wayne Madsen is really working for? Is it possible that George H. W. Bush story is entirely different? Why Bush was not reelected? Is it because he did not go into Iraq when there was an opportunity for it? He actually was dragging his feet to intervene. What about him standing up to Israel and AIPAC but eventually losing his nerve?
    , @ChuckOrloski
    Hi Non,

    I am pleased to learn your dynamic thought process on Richard Nixon has poled-over the Olympic-level Zio Brain barrier.

    In contrast is Alden's myopic comment # 100.

    At any rate, only during "gaffe" extemporaneous moments do American citizens get opportunities to hear what their POT(Z)US really in their heart about burning political issues.

    For especially you, Non, l link the video (below) which displays a taped conversation indulged by the late-Richard Nixon and Billy Graham. Topic was Jewish control of the Media.

    https://youtu.be/NRg7xvWyYog

    P.S.: Wish one day we get to listen to a taped conversation involving Trump and his son-in-law's rabbi. Maybe something like this:

    Trump: "Why does our allies, the Jew MSM, flip flop from place-to-place as if confused on which Mueller lie about Russia to report upon next?"

    Jared' s Rabbi: "Hmph. Why is it you do not read my emails? Do you suffer low energy? We elite Jews like and appreciate your dedication to expand world Zionism a lot, but as you know, the simultaneous operations of running a 'rigged' MSM and presidential terms-of-office gets to be a rough 'gig' and you must grow thick skin, Donald!"

    Trump: "Bah, the darkie got mostly good MSM-lies except for stuff on where the fuck he was born! Look at me, eh? Shit, shit, daily shit.

    The Rabbi: "Presidents enter office with the unique armour Jews give them! Face it! You're doing better than... uh, Nunes. Count your al Quds blessings!'
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  99. @chris

    “Cozy Bear” whose job it was to gain access and steal from the DNC for Russia.
     
    you're kidding, right???

    William Binney, the architect of the NSA surveillance program stated that if the Russians had hacked the DNC computers, the NSA would know it. Then he proved that the e-mails had been downloaded locally.

    Do you not know this or do you choose not to acknowlege information that does not fit in with your pre-drawn conclusions?

    I’m fairly certain that Seth Rich was Mossad, he released the emails, probably Israel wanting to get back at Clinton about the Uranium 1 deal with Putin, maybe they knew Trump would be a better bet, maybe Mossad decided to kill Seth R to start the whole Clinton killed him narrative, maybe Seth is still alive??
    This is all speculation of course.

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  100. chris says:
    @Wally
    Nunes breaks it down.

    Let's Play 10 Questions
    Nunes' New Approach To Demand Answers On The Dossier

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/20/nunes-letters-trump-dossier/

    https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/7tf2dmkq2o69yvs2/images/1-e4c225a268.jpg

    I agree, Wally except for the fact brought up by a couple of journalists, that Nunes released his version of the FISA memo, only after having (days before) voted to extend the expanded FISA enabling law.

    If at the end of the process, there are no indictments of key operatives in the anti-Tump coup for treason, this will all have just been Kabuki theater for the masses.

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  101. Alden says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    Non said: "Watergate was CIA purging Nixon."

    Hi Non,

    Can not describe your above words as flippant but research is needed.

    During the mid-1990's, I had a terrific learning experience by reading a book written by Len Colodny, a private investigator & relative "nobody."

    The book is on Watergate & is titled, "Silent Coup." The work raised many eyebrows as to what really caused Nixon's disgraced political fall.

    No doubt, Non, the CIA had a role in "purging" Nixon. Len Colodny researched & interviewed Watergate "players," for example G. Gordon Liddy and John Mitchell.
    "Silent Coup" was smacked down by reviewer Stephen Ambrose but others were more objective and picked-up on the scent of the JCOS, Pentagon.

    In fact, "60 Minutes" was poised to run a feature on the remarkable book but intimidated producers drew back. Again, true history down with a T.K.O.

    Popularized Fake History is the profitable future for "Russiagate" and we might even get a blockbuster film out of the charade..., "All the Russian's Presidential Men."

    Thanks, Non.

    I read Silent Coup. It’s good Nixon the anti White affirmative action president was austed for whatever reason.

    Affirmative action, section 8 creating the affirmative action Hispanic race by executive order, expanded federal funding for radical NGOs, CETA, and dozens of other affirmative action programs imposed at every level of government, Nixon was even more anti White than Johnson.

    The damage Nixon did to Whites still holds. But at least he was disgraced and forced to resign, despite the fact that he was handled by the Israeli/ Rockefeller asset Kissinger.

    Nixon’s obedience to Kissinger’s orders winning the 1973 war for Israel didn’t help him when the Jewish WAPO and NYSlimes went after him.

    Nixon was an even worse president for Whites than even Johnson and Obama.

    Look upon his disgrace as just retribution for what Nixon did to Whites
    Note that the Jewish radical NGO young radicals he funded have ruled the nation since the 1990s

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  102. Alden says:
    @Skeptikal
    Russ Baker's Family of Secrets has quite a lot on the take-down of Nixon.

    For funding all those radical
    NGOs and affirmative action Nixon should have been taken down in February of 1969. Instead the WAPO and NYSlimes waited till he obeyed their instructions Re affirmative action and funding radical NGOs.

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  103. Alden says:
    @redmudhooch
    I'm fairly certain that Seth Rich was Mossad, he released the emails, probably Israel wanting to get back at Clinton about the Uranium 1 deal with Putin, maybe they knew Trump would be a better bet, maybe Mossad decided to kill Seth R to start the whole Clinton killed him narrative, maybe Seth is still alive??
    This is all speculation of course.

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  104. @chris
    Let's not forget about the slimy limey John Oliver; will he be indicted next ?

    Oliver has that unmistakable English pedo look, and therefore appeals to certain people in charge of our major media. There’s also a certain portion of Americans who like to be put down by English people. They all tend to be Hillary voters and government workers. I think Oliver’s safe, pending some damaging information about his private proclivities.

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    Funny point you’re making about Oliver, he’s ruining that whole gentrified image the Brits used to have. I hope MI6 is taking this into consideration when sending these loones out; because no amount of topless Kate Middleton photos will make up for this.

    But I really don’t get these foreigners like him and Steel feeling so strongly about our politicians and our political system. I understand middle easterners feeling that way about it in order to stop the drones from raining death and destruction on their countries, but what is it to some stupid Britt? (No offense to London Bob, etc.)

    I wouldn’t presume to go to England to tell them what imbecile politicians they should or shouldn’t vote for. But someone is letting these dim wits feel mighty empowered about their contributions to our system. Maybe it’s the same people who are telling our Mexican migrants to feel empowered.

    What (other than money and maybe lack of attention at home) makes them feel so at home sticking their ‘bloody’ noses into this pile of crap; and unlike some of the foreign commentators here at Unz, they’re doing it all in support of the status quo!? WTF?

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  105. Clinton’s SuperPac led the way in internet hucksterism. The Russians were amateur hour compared to David Brock’s group. https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/04/hillary-clintons-super-pac-taking-a-page-from-vlad.html

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  106. @geokat62
    PCR's take on the latest developments in Russiagate.

    He entitled the article, Devin Nunes for President, Ray McGovern for CIA Director. I would have added Philip Giraldi for Secretary of State:


    This is an extraordinary and highly truthful article by former CIA official Ray McGovern who was the responsible official for the daily briefing of the President of the United States. Be sure to read it:http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48824.htm

    McGovern has proven over and over on many occasions that he is a person of integrity, honor, and intelligence. Ray McGovern should be the Director of the CIA. He would be welcomed by the CIA analysts who resent their political use, and we would have an honest intelligence agency, which is what we need.

    Rep. Nunes, Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee said that those in the FBI and Obama Justice (sic) Department who intentionally orchestrated false charges against the President of the United States will be put on trial, if they have violated the law as they are no longer tolerated as being above the law. In my opinion, it is a foregone conclusion that they have violated the law of the United States of America.

    Rep. Nunes, who is likely to be assassinated by the FBI, CIA, military/security complex, or DNC at any time, said that:

    The committee is closing down its investigation into possible collusion between Moscow and the Trump campaign; no evidence of collusion was found.
     
    The apparently widespread practice of “unmasking” the identities of Americans under surveillance. On this point, Nunes said, “In the last administration they were unmasking hundreds, and hundreds, and hundreds of Americans’ names. They were unmasking for what I would say, for lack of a better definition, were for political purposes.”

    Asked about Schiff’s criticism that Nunes behaved improperly on what he called the “midnight run to the White House,” Nunes responded that the stories were untrue. “Well, most of the time I ignore political nonsense in this town,” he said. “What I will say is that all of those stories were totally fake from the beginning.”

    Adam Schiff is, in my opinion, clearly the CIA/FBI’s point man in the House. Everything the piece of shit Schiff says is supportive of the CIA/FBI plot against the President of the United States and the American people. Hopefully Schiff, in my opinion a totally corrupt individual devoid or all integrity, will be in the dock with Brennan, Comey, Mueller, Claper, Hillary and sent to prison with them.

    I remember when the Democratic Party stood for the working class and justice. I rememer the great justices of the US Supreme Court from the Democratic Party—William Douglas, Willian Brennan, and Thurgood Marshall. These were real Americans who protected Americans’ civil rights and held the corrupt government to account.

    No more. The Democratic Party under the Clinton’s money-grubbing influence is even more corrupt than the money-grubbing Republicans.

    In the United States there is no one to represent the rule of law but Devin Nunes. Stand by him as he will be under heavy attack from the utterly corrupt presstitutes who never serve truth, only their pocket book enriched by their subsidies from the CIA.
     

    Hmmmmm…is this an attempt to engender comments on PCR’s article? You know that he doesn’t allow comments on his articles.

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  107. @Skeptikal
    Seems to me that only an ageing warrior a la Mueller could bring such a ridiculous indictment. That is, only someone to whom the world of social media is basically alien. Thus, perfectly standard operating procedure looks dangerous and subversive. maybe it is, but in that case the whole social media scene is dangerous and subversive. But what does an old fart like Mueller even know about that? He is totally a fish out of water in this world and his indictment reflects his cluelessness. How is one to take any of this seriously?

    He is as clueless as Hillary, fiddling around with email servers and/but not really understanding a g.d. thing about them.

    “an ageing warrior a la Mueller”

    The trouble with that description is that Mueller isn’t a warrior, aging or otherwise. Mueller is a doddering old shyster who wandered into a political appointment and started a career as a federal criminal when he became FBI director.

    Now he has foolishly agreed to try one more trick for his masters and has managed only to indict himself and his former colleagues. When he hangs, he will have knotted his own noose and placed it around his own scrawny neck.

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    "ageing warrior" was meant ironically. I guess I should have used an emoticon.
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  108. H. S. says:

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller MUST Step Down

    ”Mr. Mueller, due to his direct involvement as former FBI Director and his role in covering up and protecting Gulen Networks’ criminal operations within the United States, by shutting down pertinent FBI investigative operations and by transferring certain terrorism related Gulen files to the counterintelligence division, has a major conflict of interest as Special Counsel targeting Flynn’s case as it pertains to exposing the Gulen network and his relationship with Turkish entities sharing the same interest in exposing and extraditing Fethullah Gulen. Thus, Mr. Mueller must step down from his position as Special Counsel in this case- a case targeting and probing Lt. General Michael Flynn.”

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  109. T. F. says:

    Political Persecution in America & War on Whistleblowers: A Continuing Saga of Terror & Torture

    ”We are finding terrorists and bringing them to justice. We are gathering information about where the terrorists may be hiding. We are trying to disrupt their plots and plans. Anything we do … to that end in this effort, any activity we conduct, is within the law. We do not torture. ”

    -George W. Bush

    ”To me some things are actually black and white. We can’t stoop to their level by using torture techniques. It’s just simply WRONG.”

    -CIA Whistleblower John Kiriakou

    ”Whistleblowers come in here and say to me, ‘You will not believe what I am going through.’ And I can actually look them in the eye and say, Yes, I will. And I do. Because I know what the government is capable of doing.”

    -Attorney/Whistleblower Jesselyn Radack

    “The central question of our time is to determine how many people globally have been murdered by fbi/cia operatives in covert, illegal, counterintelligence programs, etc., by methods (among others) described in our reports. As the crime of murder has no time limits for court prosecutions, we must prosecute the criminals in the fbi/cia who are responsible for the crimes suggested herein.”

    -Former FBI Agent/Whistleblower/Attorney Geral Sosbee

    ”We must respect the sworn depositions and complaints of the often forgotten true patriots within the FBI, CIA and elsewhere who stand as government whistleblowers and sanctioned targeted individuals for the American people and our human brothers and sisters around the world, like Sibel D. Edmonds, Coleen Rowley, Barbara Hartwell, Geral W. Sosbee, and Bob Levin. Within my possession are numerous case files exposing local, state and federal corruption that would have already resulted in criminal convictions within the “harvested” private sector if not affected as ongoing COINTELPRO operations that have continued since 1956. ”

    -Former FBI Agent/Whistleblower Bob Levin

    http://barbarahartwellvscia.blogspot.com/2016/12/political-persecution-in-america-war-on.htm

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  110. renfro says:

    Does anyone stop to consider that Mueller’s Russian Boys Troll Factory indictment is just for the purpose of throwing some meat to the politicians and public?
    Mueller should keep going and going and going….the partisans can squeal all they want about how its being done for the Dems…who cares….it sets some precedents that can also be used against the Dems in similar circumstances…..and give us more ammunition and credence in attacking the Israel interference.
    Some people commenting on this here aren’t Americans so they don’t have a dog in this hunt…but if you are American you should want to see all the rats in the corrupt world of politics and money caught.
    Imo this Russian flap pales in comparison to WH aides that don’t have security clearances having access to the highest classified intel in the President’s intell briefings…..this is truly outrageous. More outrageous and dangerous than the troll factory …and especially in light of how so many of Trump’s staff have ‘bizness’ interest that need a lot of money as exampled by Manafort and Gates.

    Go Mueller…nail this one too.

    US probe looking at Kushner foreign business contacts: report
    Yahoo News-22 hours ago
    Washington (AFP) – Special counsel Robert Mueller is probing Jared Kushner’s efforts to get foreign investors beyond Russia to provide financing for his company during the presidential transition, including in China, CNN reported Monday. The probe was previously only said to have focused on the Russia

    Report: Kushner Requests More Intel Than Any Non-NSC Employee …
    New York Magazine-Feb 18, 2018
    Senior White House adviser Jared Kushner, whose inability to obtain permanent security clearance has come under renewed scrutiny in recent weeks, requests more information from the intelligence community than any other White House employee who isn’t working on the National Security Council,

    Kushner Resists Losing Access as Kelly Tackles Security Clearance

    New York Times-25 minutes ago
    Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser, is resisting giving up his access to highly classified information, prompting an internal struggle with John F. Kelly, the White House chief of staff, over who should be allowed to see some of the nation’s most sensitive secrets.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-kushner/white-house-says-trump-son-in-law-kushner-can-do-job-without-security-clearance-idUSKCN1G42SD

    Kushner has been operating under a temporary clearance for the past year while the Federal Bureau of Investigation conducts a background investigation. Under an order issued on Friday by White House Chief of Staff John Kelly, Kushner will lose the temporary clearance in less than a week.

    This is why Kushner’s gargantuan debt matters
    Politico reports:

    Jared Kushner, a White House aide and President Donald Trump’s son-in-law, appears to have drawn more money out of three separate lines of credit in the months after he joined the White House last year, a newly released document shows.
    Recent revisions to the financial disclosure form filed by Kushner’s wife, Ivanka Trump, bumped up each of those debts to a range of $5 million to $25 million.
    Versions of the couple’s disclosures made public in July valued those debts at $1 million to $5 million apiece. The loans were extended by three banks: Bank of America, New York Community Bank and Signature Bank. . . . One debt did drop in value as Ivanka Trump’s form was revised: the amount owed on a Visa account went down to a range of $50,001 to $100,000, from $100,001 to $250,000.
    (As an aside, who carries that much credit-card debt? Are the Kushners’ liquid assets so low that their lifestyle has to be paid for by borrowing at presumably outrageous rates?)
    Kushner’s financial problems relating to his 2007 purchase of the 666 Fifth Ave. building for $1.8 billion have come up in the context of the Russia investigation. Last September the Wall Street Journal reported:
    Some of President Donald Trump’s lawyers earlier this summer concluded that Jared Kushner should step down as senior White House adviser because of possible legal complications related to a probe of Russia’s involvement in the 2016 presidential election and aired concerns about him to the president, people familiar with the matter said.
    Among their concerns was that Mr. Kushner was the adviser closest to the president who had the most dealings with Russian officials and businesspeople during the campaign and transition, some of which are currently being examined by federal investigators and congressional oversight panels. Mr. Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and confidant, has said he had four such meetings or interactions.
    Another issue was Mr. Kushner’s initial omission of any contacts with foreign officials from the form required to obtain a security clearance. He later updated the form several times to include what he has said were more than 100 contacts with foreign officials.
    Kushner met with Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador, to discuss a secret back-channel and with the head of a sanctioned Russian bank, Vnesheconombank (VEB). (“The conversation is curious not only because it represents a top Trump official secretly meeting with an arm of the Russian government, but also because accounts of the meeting differ in important ways,” the Atlantic’s David Graham noted at the time. “Kushner says he attended the meeting in his capacity as an adviser to President-elect Trump. But VEB says that the meeting concerned Kushner’s family real-estate business.”) And he was present at the now-infamous June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower attended by a Kremlin-connected lawyer.

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    You seem to have done honest hard work on this comment but you surprised me by your apparent ignorance of one commonplace of personal finance. I presume that in the US as in other parts of the Anglosphere the financially well off pay for almost everything by credit or charge card so as to earn frequent flyer points/miles. No interest is paid on the credit card debt if it is paid in full every month or six weeks and, indeed, the card allows gor its owner to retain interest earning cash for a month or more if it is a credit card. A person with freedom to choose the best flight bargains can get as much as 3 - 5 cents in the dollar of credit card expenditure. So, nothing at all strange about Ivanka's card debt as she probably gets even better value as a Gold or Platinum member for her high expenditure. If she wants to be a bit scrupulous about putting down children's Executive Class fares to business or government reimbursable accounts she could use points/miles.
    , @EliteCommInc.
    Complete nonsense. The idea that any is of this is healthy and can't wait for the democrats to be in a similar position is just off the wall.

    This is the kind of childishness that damages the integrity and veracity of the Republic. The level of waste, paranoia, misdirection, by this manufactured - thus far nonsense is what feeds an ineffective establishment and undermines what the democratic republic represents.

    No and absolutely not, this kind of tit for tat -- explains our foreign policy and internal ineptitude.

    No conservative should be applauding this nonsense and every conservative should be shunning it's use as as opposed to salivating their opportunity to engage it.

    Accurate data inaccurately interpreted or applied makes said data ineffectual.

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  111. What I am terrible upset seeing all those degenerate egheads on CNN as that John Clapper.

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    I would love to see Clapper hanging by his neck, right beside Brennan and Comey. It would be bearable to look at him then.
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  112. RobinG says:
    @joe webb
    from NYT a few days ago, on the Mueller capers.

    Are you laughing yet? Several articles in jewyorktimes on the teapot tempest. They spent several million dollars on their trolling. Is this a joke, when the CIA spooks spend billions doing the same thing?

    "Such anecdotes are rare examples of how intelligence agencies work covertly to influence political outcomes abroad. The C.I.A. has conducted such operations for decades, but both Mr. Mueller’s indictment and an intelligence assessment last year present a startling example — unprecedented in its scope and audacity — of a foreign government working to help elect an American president."


    WE HAVE BEEN DOING THE SAME 'FOR DECADES'...?? HUH? HUH? AND HUH?

    The CIA's billions of dollars vs. Russia's few million...Another remark in the article says that the Russians began this trolling op 4 years ago. Excuse me? What about Russia's other operations of a spook nature?. Are they dumb or what? Maybe they helped Obongo get elected to really fuc us up. Maybe they have been funding NAACP for decades. One of the claims in the article is that Black Lives Matter got some jive from the Ruskies too. I mean, I mean...is this all they got?

    Come to think about it, is this all Mueller got? Is this all the jewyorktimes got? Putin gets 80% of the Russian vote....where is the CIA anyway? Where is all that US taxpayer dough going anyway? Or take Venezuela...How come we have not got a pro-yanqui there for president? Or, or...gee whiz. And how did our oil get under A-rab sand, etc?

    Think about it. With the social (anti-social? ) media spawning billions of messages ( I once saw a run of smelt spawn in San Francisco Bay around Sausalito that turned the water milky-white...millions if not billions of little eggs and sperm squirming toward their objects of desire) of hate and love directed to the election....the ethernet like the fish spawn, or the Milky Way.."billions and billions" ...enough to send you to bed, pulling the covers over your head. Gee whiz Dorothy, are we in Kansas yet? etc. And the Ruskies...accounting for probably one per cent of the total trash on the Internet? If that.

    And did they think to troll the White Nationalist websites? Nah, let 'em alone....they mostly...mostly..are doing a better job than we Ruskies could ever do.

    The Russia caper should be held up as evidence of Russian incompetence and bungling. The Russians? Pussies. Leave them alone to self-destruct.

    Jeeez, the US is self-destructing all on our own. The Russians, if they had any brains, would spend their money at home, not to bother helping us in our own
    bonfire of inanities of racial equality and Diversity perversity and importing the wretched refuse of the planet.

    Hands Off Ruskies!! Let us go to hell in our own American Way...City on a Hilll, a beacon for all the low-life yearning for free money and white pussy. Come one come all. Every liberal family will put you up and share their daughters with you. We luv you and certainly don't have any guns.

    Joe, Joe, Joe, it’s a different world with the web, isn’t it? A little scary how my computer anticipates my curiosity, so up pops Yuri Bezmenov. This is from way back in 1984, before PC’s, FB, powerpoint, and the NSA knowing our every keystroke. Nevertheless, the calculated psychological profiling is timeless.

    The psy-ops are surely even more complex now, and we know that our [and all] intel agencies are doing the same (see Ukraine). His explanation of the development of useless idiots is priceless. I especially enjoyed his take on navel-gazing hippies and the demoralization of the nation.

    Yuri Bezmenov: Deception Was My Job

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    Thanks for one of the most interesting links I have seen posted on UR. Presumably that intelligent humane man is now lost to history because at almost the moment of his interview Reagan and Thatcher and Gorbuchev (the simple version) were about to show his knowledge of the USSR as out of date - though Part 3 is nonetheless fascinating.

    BTW I would like to see it again with subtitles which I did for the first two parts, but then for all parts it showed with sound only. Any advice on remedy? I would like to forward it to several old codgers.
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  113. Until they find evidence between the WH and the Russian government to break the law —

    It’s interesting and barely that.

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  114. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    The indictment suggests that Russia is out to destroy American democracy...
     
    Whoever wrote the indictment is either ignorant or a joker or, more likely, both.

    The US constitution, in fact, was designed to kill American democracy, and did. It was an "elite" rich boys' scheme from the start. Furthermore, 'Merka went full commie under FDR nearly a century ago, so it's long been a done deal. And for the petulant little whiners who don't believe it, ask yourselves why FDR appeased Joey, why his admin was infested with people with opinions and ties from Eastern Europe, and why East Coast “frat” brat millionaires helped fund the Bolshies.

    On a related note, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said that there were "Polish perpetrators, as there were Jewish perpetrators, as there were Russian perpetrators, as there were Ukrainian and German perpetrators” in "the" Holocaust. He forgot to add that there were rich and powerful American and British perpetrators of the holocaust, and that the supposed, and no doubt exaggerated, Jewish one was small potatoes compared to the Christian holocaust.

    Any whiners can go look up the Holodomor.

    There were Nazi sympathisers amongst the “rich and powerful American[s] and British” and P.G. Wodehouse even did some unwise broadcasting from Germany but I can’t recall any who fit your description of “perpetrators of the H[h]olocaust”. Help me out please.

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    There were Nazi sympathisers amongst the “rich and powerful American[s] and British” and P.G. Wodehouse even did some unwise broadcasting from Germany but I can’t recall any who fit your description of “perpetrators of the H[h]olocaust”. Help me out please.
     
    I was referring to the real Holocaust, i.e., the one that snuffed 60 million Christians or may be 100 million and enslaved large portions of the survivors, most of whom are slaves to this day, although a large percent of them think they're "free."

    In case that doesn't ring any bells for you, I was referring to the bank-rollers of the Bolshies and their useful idiots, not Nazis. For that I've been referred to as a Nazi apologist, a smear I'll just have to live with. ;)

    I've explained this countless times over the past few years here, but if you want details, one excellent source would be Anthony Sutton's "Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution."

    Here you go, I've even provided a link for you...

    https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik_revolution-5.pdf

    Thanks for asking. Enjoy!

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  115. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro
    Does anyone stop to consider that Mueller's Russian Boys Troll Factory indictment is just for the purpose of throwing some meat to the politicians and public?
    Mueller should keep going and going and going....the partisans can squeal all they want about how its being done for the Dems...who cares....it sets some precedents that can also be used against the Dems in similar circumstances.....and give us more ammunition and credence in attacking the Israel interference.
    Some people commenting on this here aren't Americans so they don't have a dog in this hunt...but if you are American you should want to see all the rats in the corrupt world of politics and money caught.
    Imo this Russian flap pales in comparison to WH aides that don't have security clearances having access to the highest classified intel in the President's intell briefings.....this is truly outrageous. More outrageous and dangerous than the troll factory ...and especially in light of how so many of Trump's staff have 'bizness' interest that need a lot of money as exampled by Manafort and Gates.

    Go Mueller...nail this one too.

    US probe looking at Kushner foreign business contacts: report
    Yahoo News-22 hours ago
    Washington (AFP) - Special counsel Robert Mueller is probing Jared Kushner's efforts to get foreign investors beyond Russia to provide financing for his company during the presidential transition, including in China, CNN reported Monday. The probe was previously only said to have focused on the Russia

    Report: Kushner Requests More Intel Than Any Non-NSC Employee ...
    New York Magazine-Feb 18, 2018
    Senior White House adviser Jared Kushner, whose inability to obtain permanent security clearance has come under renewed scrutiny in recent weeks, requests more information from the intelligence community than any other White House employee who isn't working on the National Security Council,

    Kushner Resists Losing Access as Kelly Tackles Security Clearance
    ...
    New York Times-25 minutes ago
    Jared Kushner, President Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, is resisting giving up his access to highly classified information, prompting an internal struggle with John F. Kelly, the White House chief of staff, over who should be allowed to see some of the nation's most sensitive secrets.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-kushner/white-house-says-trump-son-in-law-kushner-can-do-job-without-security-clearance-idUSKCN1G42SD
    Kushner has been operating under a temporary clearance for the past year while the Federal Bureau of Investigation conducts a background investigation. Under an order issued on Friday by White House Chief of Staff John Kelly, Kushner will lose the temporary clearance in less than a week.

    This is why Kushner’s gargantuan debt matters
    Politico reports:

    Jared Kushner, a White House aide and President Donald Trump’s son-in-law, appears to have drawn more money out of three separate lines of credit in the months after he joined the White House last year, a newly released document shows.
    Recent revisions to the financial disclosure form filed by Kushner’s wife, Ivanka Trump, bumped up each of those debts to a range of $5 million to $25 million.
    Versions of the couple’s disclosures made public in July valued those debts at $1 million to $5 million apiece. The loans were extended by three banks: Bank of America, New York Community Bank and Signature Bank. . . . One debt did drop in value as Ivanka Trump’s form was revised: the amount owed on a Visa account went down to a range of $50,001 to $100,000, from $100,001 to $250,000.
    (As an aside, who carries that much credit-card debt? Are the Kushners’ liquid assets so low that their lifestyle has to be paid for by borrowing at presumably outrageous rates?)
    Kushner’s financial problems relating to his 2007 purchase of the 666 Fifth Ave. building for $1.8 billion have come up in the context of the Russia investigation. Last September the Wall Street Journal reported:
    Some of President Donald Trump’s lawyers earlier this summer concluded that Jared Kushner should step down as senior White House adviser because of possible legal complications related to a probe of Russia’s involvement in the 2016 presidential election and aired concerns about him to the president, people familiar with the matter said.
    Among their concerns was that Mr. Kushner was the adviser closest to the president who had the most dealings with Russian officials and businesspeople during the campaign and transition, some of which are currently being examined by federal investigators and congressional oversight panels. Mr. Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and confidant, has said he had four such meetings or interactions.
    Another issue was Mr. Kushner’s initial omission of any contacts with foreign officials from the form required to obtain a security clearance. He later updated the form several times to include what he has said were more than 100 contacts with foreign officials.
    Kushner met with Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador, to discuss a secret back-channel and with the head of a sanctioned Russian bank, Vnesheconombank (VEB). (“The conversation is curious not only because it represents a top Trump official secretly meeting with an arm of the Russian government, but also because accounts of the meeting differ in important ways,” the Atlantic’s David Graham noted at the time. “Kushner says he attended the meeting in his capacity as an adviser to President-elect Trump. But VEB says that the meeting concerned Kushner’s family real-estate business.”) And he was present at the now-infamous June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower attended by a Kremlin-connected lawyer.

    You seem to have done honest hard work on this comment but you surprised me by your apparent ignorance of one commonplace of personal finance. I presume that in the US as in other parts of the Anglosphere the financially well off pay for almost everything by credit or charge card so as to earn frequent flyer points/miles. No interest is paid on the credit card debt if it is paid in full every month or six weeks and, indeed, the card allows gor its owner to retain interest earning cash for a month or more if it is a credit card. A person with freedom to choose the best flight bargains can get as much as 3 – 5 cents in the dollar of credit card expenditure. So, nothing at all strange about Ivanka’s card debt as she probably gets even better value as a Gold or Platinum member for her high expenditure. If she wants to be a bit scrupulous about putting down children’s Executive Class fares to business or government reimbursable accounts she could use points/miles.

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    It is not the CC debt that is important. ....it is his 1.2 billion loan debt coming due Feb 2019 that is important.

    So far during Trump's presidential transition phase Jared has tried to get loans and investors from the Chinese, Qatar and the CEO of Russia's VEB bank. 'If" the Kushners don't come up with the 1.2 billion they are dead in the water and will have to fall back on their slum lord properties in NJ for a living. Besides this the Kushners have 4 lawsuits against them concerning other properties and the IRS has subpoenaed records on investors in Kushner properties ...which means the are looking to see where his investors got their money from, as in money laundering.

    Follow this to see who ends up buying Vornado's minority stake in 666.....and if they bring enough money to pay off the 1.2 billion.....666 is a dog, no one wants it, its way over priced....so it will be very interesting if it turns out to be a shell company with Arab or Chinese money behind it.....and even more interesting to know what WH influence Kushner traded for it.

    Vornado says will sell stake in Kushner's flagship Manhattan tower
    Reuters-Feb 13, 2018
    A building at 666 Fifth Avenue, owned by Kushner Companies, rises above the street in New York, U.S., March 30, 2017 Roth said in August 2017 that the fate of the 41-story flagship property of Kushner Cos, a developer and landlord founded by Jared's father,
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  116. @RobinG
    Joe, Joe, Joe, it's a different world with the web, isn't it? A little scary how my computer anticipates my curiosity, so up pops Yuri Bezmenov. This is from way back in 1984, before PC's, FB, powerpoint, and the NSA knowing our every keystroke. Nevertheless, the calculated psychological profiling is timeless.

    The psy-ops are surely even more complex now, and we know that our [and all] intel agencies are doing the same (see Ukraine). His explanation of the development of useless idiots is priceless. I especially enjoyed his take on navel-gazing hippies and the demoralization of the nation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4&spfreload=5
    Yuri Bezmenov: Deception Was My Job

    Thanks for one of the most interesting links I have seen posted on UR. Presumably that intelligent humane man is now lost to history because at almost the moment of his interview Reagan and Thatcher and Gorbuchev (the simple version) were about to show his knowledge of the USSR as out of date – though Part 3 is nonetheless fascinating.

    BTW I would like to see it again with subtitles which I did for the first two parts, but then for all parts it showed with sound only. Any advice on remedy? I would like to forward it to several old codgers.

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    In the YouTube tool bar, there's an icon to click..... CC in a box. Does that work for you?


    Here's another oldie (1961) -
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wruiVD7k8hg
    Pipeline to Paradise - How Al Gaddafi built the greatest humanitarian project
    [The Great River]
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  117. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    So, some Russians used the internet. Wow, big deal.

    In contrast, the deep state, Democratic Party, Nevertrumpers, big media, and internet search engines all colluded to favor Hillary.
    Google even rigged algorithms so that certain stories would effectively be demoted or buried in search results. The collusion among institutions and industries goes unreported because big media are part of the rot.

    What Russians did was nothing.

    What the institutions and industries did in the US was, if not outright criminal, totally unethical, unprincipled, undemocratic, and dishonorable.

    The real power in the US, which is totally corrupt, is scapegoating Russia as a meddler to hide their own collusion, corruption, and coordination among one another to totally favor can candidate(of the Establishment) over the other.

    One thing for sure, the media are no longer the fourth estate. It is part of the Deep State. It is a Deep Estate.

    PS. Even if we suppose Russia did meddle in US affairs, why is that bad thing by rules of globalism? Didn’t the US praise Arab Spring and Green Movement in Iran on the notion that the internet has rendered barriers to information and activism obsolete? If globalism no longer believes in nation-states and is for total open borders, what’s the problem with open information? And if even illegals should be called ‘dreamers’, why would Russia be treated as a foreign entity? Any Russian who passes off information in the US should be called a News Dreamer.

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  118. yurivku says:
    @polistra
    The only important thing is that Mueller has now established a "legal" precedent for treating ANY expression of opinion as "defeating the lawful functions" of the government. He now has a "legal" basis for a full-scale pogrom, and no judge will question him.

    Mueller is operating for the Clinton mob, which suicides its enemies. No judge wants to be suicided, so all judges will implement the pogrom.

    The only important thing is that Mueller has now established a “legal” precedent for treating ANY expression of opinion as “defeating the lawful functions” of the government. He now has a “legal” basis for a full-scale pogrom, and no judge will question him.

    Well I agree. And with great amazement and horror I’m following the dirty current of US’ policy. It just can’t be real for people in charge for destiny of great (well greatest and “indispensable” if you wish) country and the whole world to behave like imbeciles, but it is real.
    BTW some of them not stupid, just playing game according the rules, those not stupid but insane, but majority are stupid.
    The nation of zombies is how it looks like.

    What’s gonna be next? The only logical continuation is to go in attack shouting “The Russians are coming!”.

    And here (at UNZ) we can hear only statements like “It’s not us, it’s Killary, Trump, McCain …” or “Our political system is not a democracy, but ..” , “we’re selecting the less shit from couple of shits” etc.

    I believe, in society one can’t find even those explanations, they keep their washed braines in warm place. So we all have to relax and wait till end comes?

    Or you’re sure the world (DPRK, Iran, Russia, China …) will surrender and everything will go old way?
    Well, there is non-zero possibilty of such scenario, but not very high I beleive.

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    And here (at UNZ) we can hear only statements like “It’s not us, it’s Killary, Trump, McCain …” or “Our political system is not a democracy, but ..” , “we’re selecting the less shit from couple of shits” etc.
     
    Just to add one of most popular explanations - "It's not us to blame - it's all for Israel/Jews". -))
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  119. utu says:
    @Non
    Thanks, Chuck. That book was new to me. It's interesting to see Haig fingered for Watergate because of Haig's role as presidential guardian ("I'm in charge here") during Operation Nine Lives, the CIA's botched assassination of Reagan.

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article164191.html
    https://whowhatwhy.org/2016/08/16/bush-angle-reagan-shooting-still-unresolved-hinckley-walks/

    Who Wayne Madsen is really working for? Is it possible that George H. W. Bush story is entirely different? Why Bush was not reelected? Is it because he did not go into Iraq when there was an opportunity for it? He actually was dragging his feet to intervene. What about him standing up to Israel and AIPAC but eventually losing his nerve?

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  120. yurivku says:
    @yurivku

    The only important thing is that Mueller has now established a “legal” precedent for treating ANY expression of opinion as “defeating the lawful functions” of the government. He now has a “legal” basis for a full-scale pogrom, and no judge will question him.

     

    Well I agree. And with great amazement and horror I'm following the dirty current of US' policy. It just can't be real for people in charge for destiny of great (well greatest and "indispensable" if you wish) country and the whole world to behave like imbeciles, but it is real.
    BTW some of them not stupid, just playing game according the rules, those not stupid but insane, but majority are stupid.
    The nation of zombies is how it looks like.

    What's gonna be next? The only logical continuation is to go in attack shouting "The Russians are coming!".

    And here (at UNZ) we can hear only statements like "It's not us, it's Killary, Trump, McCain ..." or "Our political system is not a democracy, but .." , "we're selecting the less shit from couple of shits" etc.

    I believe, in society one can't find even those explanations, they keep their washed braines in warm place. So we all have to relax and wait till end comes?

    Or you're sure the world (DPRK, Iran, Russia, China ...) will surrender and everything will go old way?
    Well, there is non-zero possibilty of such scenario, but not very high I beleive.

    And here (at UNZ) we can hear only statements like “It’s not us, it’s Killary, Trump, McCain …” or “Our political system is not a democracy, but ..” , “we’re selecting the less shit from couple of shits” etc.

    Just to add one of most popular explanations – “It’s not us to blame – it’s all for Israel/Jews”. -))

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  121. Skeptikal says:
    @Twodees Partain
    "an ageing warrior a la Mueller"

    The trouble with that description is that Mueller isn't a warrior, aging or otherwise. Mueller is a doddering old shyster who wandered into a political appointment and started a career as a federal criminal when he became FBI director.

    Now he has foolishly agreed to try one more trick for his masters and has managed only to indict himself and his former colleagues. When he hangs, he will have knotted his own noose and placed it around his own scrawny neck.

    “ageing warrior” was meant ironically. I guess I should have used an emoticon.

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  122. annamaria says:
    @Skeptikal
    Seems to me that only an ageing warrior a la Mueller could bring such a ridiculous indictment. That is, only someone to whom the world of social media is basically alien. Thus, perfectly standard operating procedure looks dangerous and subversive. maybe it is, but in that case the whole social media scene is dangerous and subversive. But what does an old fart like Mueller even know about that? He is totally a fish out of water in this world and his indictment reflects his cluelessness. How is one to take any of this seriously?

    He is as clueless as Hillary, fiddling around with email servers and/but not really understanding a g.d. thing about them.

    A repost from Zerohedge: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-20/russian-troll-farm-indictment-shredded-journalist-who-first-profiled-it-2015
    “Our “troll farm” is better funded than theirs…
    The United States, through a Non-Governmental Organization (NGO) called The National Endowment for Democracy [currently the Lobby arm] has spent over $27,000,000 since 2013 in Russia to “promote democracy”. The National Endowment for Democracy (NED) is a U.S. non-profit soft power organization that was founded in 1983 with the stated goal of promoting democracy abroad. It is funded primarily through an annual allocation from the U.S. Congress in the form of a grant awarded through the United States Information Agency (USIA).

    Former Congressman Ron Paul also argued against NED funding stating that NED has “very little to do with democracy. It is an organization that uses US tax money to actually subvert democracy, by showering funding on favored political parties or movements overseas. It underwrites color-coded ‘people’s revolutions’ overseas that look more like pages out of Lenin’s writings on stealing power than genuine indigenous democratic movements.”
    Investigative reporter and editor of Consortiumnews Robert Parry has characterized NED as a “neocon slush fund,” whose founding was the brainchild of Reagan Administration CIA Director William Casey and its leading propagandist Walter Raymond Jr., then on the staff of the National Security Council. The idea was to set up an organization funded by the U.S. Congress to take over CIA programs that attempted to influence foreign elections by promoting the selection of candidates who supported U.S. policy and would “do what the U.S. government tells them to do.
    See screen grab of chart here from USAID showing NED spending in Russia: https://imgur.com/DuQwJZW

    https://explorer.usaid.gov/query?country_name=Russia&fiscal_year=2016&t…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Endowment_for_Democracy

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/28/national-endowment-for-de…

    Interference in elections
    NED’s Statement of Principles and Objectives, adopted in 1984, asserts that “No Endowment funds may be used to finance the campaigns of candidates for public office.” But the ways to circumvent the spirit of such a prohibition are not difficult to come up with; as with American elections, there’s “hard money” and there’s “soft money”.
    As described in the “Elections” and “Interventions” chapters, NED successfully manipulated elections in Nicaragua in 1990 and Mongolia in 1996; helped to overthrow democratically elected governments in Bulgaria in 1990 and Albania in 1991 and 1992; and worked to defeat the candidate for prime minister of Slovakia in 2002 who was out of favor in Washington. And from 1999 to 2004, NED heavily funded members of the opposition to President Hugo Chavez in Venezuela to subvert his rule and to support a referendum to unseat him.
    Additionally, in the 1990s and afterward, NED supported a coalition of groups in Haiti known as the Democratic Convergence, who were united in their opposition to Jean-Bertrand Aristide and his progressive ideology, while he was in and out of the office of the president.
    The Endowment has made its weight felt in the electoral-political process in numerous other countries.”

    https://williamblum.org/chapters/rogue-state/trojan-horse-the-national-

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  123. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    , Why Bush was not re-elected? Because he didn’t need to be. His successor, with whom he ostentatiously met during the campaign, was Bill Clinton, another member of the CIA nomenklatura. Clinton was recruited into the CIA by no less a spook than Cord Meyer. Bush didn’t need to hold the position of presidential figurehead, he controlled it, since his leadership position in CIA has life tenure.

    Sounds like you’re implying that the Zionazis kept him out of office. IMO they don’t have quite that much pull. The apartheid state makes itself useful to the CIA regime by providing cutouts for the most atrocious crimes, including 9/11. CIA interests currently align with Israel’s. If that ceases to be the case, CIA will jettison them, as they jettisoned South Africa once it stunk too bad. It’s difficult to think of a specific wedge issue that might trigger a breach at this point, since Israel and the CIA regime have a common problem: serious crimes of concern to the international community requiring war to stave off state and command responsibility. The CIA regime and the government of Israel both have a vital interest in general war.

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    There is more on the Clinton/Bush connection in the book COMPROMIZED, CLINTON/BUSH and THE CIA, by Terry Reed, can be had on amazon.com, tells of drug running, gun running, the whole deal.
    , @Philip Giraldi
    Dear Anonymous - I note that you are also posting identical material under the name Non, both of which are originating in Israel. If you persist in using multiple false identities from Israel we will assume that you are hasbara and we will block all your identities from this site. Robert Mueller might also have an interest in what you are up to...
    , @chris

    CIA interests currently align with Israel’s. If that ceases to be the case, CIA will jettison them, as they jettisoned South Africa once it stunk too bad.
     
    Really?? What will the hundreds of politicians flying to Israel on indoctrination junkets have to say about that? What about the media and AIPAC?

    The CIA regime and the government of Israel both have a vital interest in general war.
     
    Now I understand Israel having this interest, but why on earth would the CIA have such a ‘vital’ interest if they actually work for the US.gov ?
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  124. Non says:

    , Why Bush was not re-elected? Because he didn’t need to be. His successor, with whom he ostentatiously met during the campaign, was Bill Clinton, another member of the CIA nomenklatura. Clinton was recruited into the CIA by no less a spook than Cord Meyer. Bush didn’t need to hold the position of presidential figurehead, he controlled it. And his leadership position in CIA has life tenure.

    Sounds like you’re implying that the Zionazis kept him out of office. IMO they don’t have quite that much pull. The apartheid state makes itself useful to the CIA regime by providing cutouts for all the most atrocious crimes, including 9/11. CIA interests currently align with Israel’s. If that ceases to be the case, CIA will jettison them, as they jettisoned South Africa once it stunk too bad. It’s difficult to think of a specific wedge issue that might trigger a breach at this point, since Israel and the CIA regime have a common problem: serious crimes of concern to the international community requiring war to stave off state and command responsibility. The CIA regime and the government of Israel both have a vital interest in general war.

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  125. renfro says:
    @Anonymous
    You seem to have done honest hard work on this comment but you surprised me by your apparent ignorance of one commonplace of personal finance. I presume that in the US as in other parts of the Anglosphere the financially well off pay for almost everything by credit or charge card so as to earn frequent flyer points/miles. No interest is paid on the credit card debt if it is paid in full every month or six weeks and, indeed, the card allows gor its owner to retain interest earning cash for a month or more if it is a credit card. A person with freedom to choose the best flight bargains can get as much as 3 - 5 cents in the dollar of credit card expenditure. So, nothing at all strange about Ivanka's card debt as she probably gets even better value as a Gold or Platinum member for her high expenditure. If she wants to be a bit scrupulous about putting down children's Executive Class fares to business or government reimbursable accounts she could use points/miles.

    It is not the CC debt that is important. ….it is his 1.2 billion loan debt coming due Feb 2019 that is important.

    So far during Trump’s presidential transition phase Jared has tried to get loans and investors from the Chinese, Qatar and the CEO of Russia’s VEB bank. ‘If” the Kushners don’t come up with the 1.2 billion they are dead in the water and will have to fall back on their slum lord properties in NJ for a living. Besides this the Kushners have 4 lawsuits against them concerning other properties and the IRS has subpoenaed records on investors in Kushner properties …which means the are looking to see where his investors got their money from, as in money laundering.

    Follow this to see who ends up buying Vornado’s minority stake in 666…..and if they bring enough money to pay off the 1.2 billion…..666 is a dog, no one wants it, its way over priced….so it will be very interesting if it turns out to be a shell company with Arab or Chinese money behind it…..and even more interesting to know what WH influence Kushner traded for it.

    Vornado says will sell stake in Kushner’s flagship Manhattan tower
    Reuters-Feb 13, 2018
    A building at 666 Fifth Avenue, owned by Kushner Companies, rises above the street in New York, U.S., March 30, 2017 Roth said in August 2017 that the fate of the 41-story flagship property of Kushner Cos, a developer and landlord founded by Jared’s father,

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  126. @Anonymous
    @utu, Why Bush was not re-elected? Because he didn't need to be. His successor, with whom he ostentatiously met during the campaign, was Bill Clinton, another member of the CIA nomenklatura. Clinton was recruited into the CIA by no less a spook than Cord Meyer. Bush didn't need to hold the position of presidential figurehead, he controlled it, since his leadership position in CIA has life tenure.

    Sounds like you're implying that the Zionazis kept him out of office. IMO they don't have quite that much pull. The apartheid state makes itself useful to the CIA regime by providing cutouts for the most atrocious crimes, including 9/11. CIA interests currently align with Israel's. If that ceases to be the case, CIA will jettison them, as they jettisoned South Africa once it stunk too bad. It's difficult to think of a specific wedge issue that might trigger a breach at this point, since Israel and the CIA regime have a common problem: serious crimes of concern to the international community requiring war to stave off state and command responsibility. The CIA regime and the government of Israel both have a vital interest in general war.

    There is more on the Clinton/Bush connection in the book COMPROMIZED, CLINTON/BUSH and THE CIA, by Terry Reed, can be had on amazon.com, tells of drug running, gun running, the whole deal.

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  127. @renfro
    Does anyone stop to consider that Mueller's Russian Boys Troll Factory indictment is just for the purpose of throwing some meat to the politicians and public?
    Mueller should keep going and going and going....the partisans can squeal all they want about how its being done for the Dems...who cares....it sets some precedents that can also be used against the Dems in similar circumstances.....and give us more ammunition and credence in attacking the Israel interference.
    Some people commenting on this here aren't Americans so they don't have a dog in this hunt...but if you are American you should want to see all the rats in the corrupt world of politics and money caught.
    Imo this Russian flap pales in comparison to WH aides that don't have security clearances having access to the highest classified intel in the President's intell briefings.....this is truly outrageous. More outrageous and dangerous than the troll factory ...and especially in light of how so many of Trump's staff have 'bizness' interest that need a lot of money as exampled by Manafort and Gates.

    Go Mueller...nail this one too.

    US probe looking at Kushner foreign business contacts: report
    Yahoo News-22 hours ago
    Washington (AFP) - Special counsel Robert Mueller is probing Jared Kushner's efforts to get foreign investors beyond Russia to provide financing for his company during the presidential transition, including in China, CNN reported Monday. The probe was previously only said to have focused on the Russia

    Report: Kushner Requests More Intel Than Any Non-NSC Employee ...
    New York Magazine-Feb 18, 2018
    Senior White House adviser Jared Kushner, whose inability to obtain permanent security clearance has come under renewed scrutiny in recent weeks, requests more information from the intelligence community than any other White House employee who isn't working on the National Security Council,

    Kushner Resists Losing Access as Kelly Tackles Security Clearance
    ...
    New York Times-25 minutes ago
    Jared Kushner, President Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, is resisting giving up his access to highly classified information, prompting an internal struggle with John F. Kelly, the White House chief of staff, over who should be allowed to see some of the nation's most sensitive secrets.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-kushner/white-house-says-trump-son-in-law-kushner-can-do-job-without-security-clearance-idUSKCN1G42SD
    Kushner has been operating under a temporary clearance for the past year while the Federal Bureau of Investigation conducts a background investigation. Under an order issued on Friday by White House Chief of Staff John Kelly, Kushner will lose the temporary clearance in less than a week.

    This is why Kushner’s gargantuan debt matters
    Politico reports:

    Jared Kushner, a White House aide and President Donald Trump’s son-in-law, appears to have drawn more money out of three separate lines of credit in the months after he joined the White House last year, a newly released document shows.
    Recent revisions to the financial disclosure form filed by Kushner’s wife, Ivanka Trump, bumped up each of those debts to a range of $5 million to $25 million.
    Versions of the couple’s disclosures made public in July valued those debts at $1 million to $5 million apiece. The loans were extended by three banks: Bank of America, New York Community Bank and Signature Bank. . . . One debt did drop in value as Ivanka Trump’s form was revised: the amount owed on a Visa account went down to a range of $50,001 to $100,000, from $100,001 to $250,000.
    (As an aside, who carries that much credit-card debt? Are the Kushners’ liquid assets so low that their lifestyle has to be paid for by borrowing at presumably outrageous rates?)
    Kushner’s financial problems relating to his 2007 purchase of the 666 Fifth Ave. building for $1.8 billion have come up in the context of the Russia investigation. Last September the Wall Street Journal reported:
    Some of President Donald Trump’s lawyers earlier this summer concluded that Jared Kushner should step down as senior White House adviser because of possible legal complications related to a probe of Russia’s involvement in the 2016 presidential election and aired concerns about him to the president, people familiar with the matter said.
    Among their concerns was that Mr. Kushner was the adviser closest to the president who had the most dealings with Russian officials and businesspeople during the campaign and transition, some of which are currently being examined by federal investigators and congressional oversight panels. Mr. Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and confidant, has said he had four such meetings or interactions.
    Another issue was Mr. Kushner’s initial omission of any contacts with foreign officials from the form required to obtain a security clearance. He later updated the form several times to include what he has said were more than 100 contacts with foreign officials.
    Kushner met with Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador, to discuss a secret back-channel and with the head of a sanctioned Russian bank, Vnesheconombank (VEB). (“The conversation is curious not only because it represents a top Trump official secretly meeting with an arm of the Russian government, but also because accounts of the meeting differ in important ways,” the Atlantic’s David Graham noted at the time. “Kushner says he attended the meeting in his capacity as an adviser to President-elect Trump. But VEB says that the meeting concerned Kushner’s family real-estate business.”) And he was present at the now-infamous June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower attended by a Kremlin-connected lawyer.

    Complete nonsense. The idea that any is of this is healthy and can’t wait for the democrats to be in a similar position is just off the wall.

    This is the kind of childishness that damages the integrity and veracity of the Republic. The level of waste, paranoia, misdirection, by this manufactured – thus far nonsense is what feeds an ineffective establishment and undermines what the democratic republic represents.

    No and absolutely not, this kind of tit for tat — explains our foreign policy and internal ineptitude.

    No conservative should be applauding this nonsense and every conservative should be shunning it’s use as as opposed to salivating their opportunity to engage it.

    Accurate data inaccurately interpreted or applied makes said data ineffectual.

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    You must be desperate for attention today to make such a ridiculous comment.

    Repeat after me....'The 'republic' will not be healthy until the corruption is beaten out of both parties'

    I think Phil should also check out where you are originating from cause you use some very weird and radical and pro Jewish /Israel web sites to support your claims on here...like this one you used the other day :....

    http://www.targetofopportunity.com/mission.htm
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  128. geokat62 says:

    Note to Ron Unz.

    Not sure if others are experiencing the same difficulties, but the comments archive is not functioning properly. The “later/earlier” links do not work and comments beyond those displayed on the first page cannot be accessed.

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    I have seen the same malfunction. Also, clicking on the link to a comment by another party in the comments page takes you to the top of the comments section of that article instead of to the comment you tried to access.
    , @Ron Unz
    Fixed.
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  129. JohnnyDOH says:

    “Defendants posted derogatory information” OK – PLEASE – the ONLY question should be “Was it true!” If a foreign Government tells you the TRUTH … WHO CARES! In a Republic truth about candidates is GOOD! Were the posts true? were the emails real? YES YES how its this bad?

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  130. @Non
    Thanks, Chuck. That book was new to me. It's interesting to see Haig fingered for Watergate because of Haig's role as presidential guardian ("I'm in charge here") during Operation Nine Lives, the CIA's botched assassination of Reagan.

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article164191.html
    https://whowhatwhy.org/2016/08/16/bush-angle-reagan-shooting-still-unresolved-hinckley-walks/

    Hi Non,

    I am pleased to learn your dynamic thought process on Richard Nixon has poled-over the Olympic-level Zio Brain barrier.

    In contrast is Alden’s myopic comment # 100.

    At any rate, only during “gaffe” extemporaneous moments do American citizens get opportunities to hear what their POT(Z)US really in their heart about burning political issues.

    For especially you, Non, l link the video (below) which displays a taped conversation indulged by the late-Richard Nixon and Billy Graham. Topic was Jewish control of the Media.

    P.S.: Wish one day we get to listen to a taped conversation involving Trump and his son-in-law’s rabbi. Maybe something like this:

    Trump: “Why does our allies, the Jew MSM, flip flop from place-to-place as if confused on which Mueller lie about Russia to report upon next?”

    Jared’ s Rabbi: “Hmph. Why is it you do not read my emails? Do you suffer low energy? We elite Jews like and appreciate your dedication to expand world Zionism a lot, but as you know, the simultaneous operations of running a ‘rigged’ MSM and presidential terms-of-office gets to be a rough ‘gig’ and you must grow thick skin, Donald!”

    Trump: “Bah, the darkie got mostly good MSM-lies except for stuff on where the fuck he was born! Look at me, eh? Shit, shit, daily shit.

    The Rabbi: “Presidents enter office with the unique armour Jews give them! Face it! You’re doing better than… uh, Nunes. Count your al Quds blessings!’

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  131. @Anonymous
    @utu, Why Bush was not re-elected? Because he didn't need to be. His successor, with whom he ostentatiously met during the campaign, was Bill Clinton, another member of the CIA nomenklatura. Clinton was recruited into the CIA by no less a spook than Cord Meyer. Bush didn't need to hold the position of presidential figurehead, he controlled it, since his leadership position in CIA has life tenure.

    Sounds like you're implying that the Zionazis kept him out of office. IMO they don't have quite that much pull. The apartheid state makes itself useful to the CIA regime by providing cutouts for the most atrocious crimes, including 9/11. CIA interests currently align with Israel's. If that ceases to be the case, CIA will jettison them, as they jettisoned South Africa once it stunk too bad. It's difficult to think of a specific wedge issue that might trigger a breach at this point, since Israel and the CIA regime have a common problem: serious crimes of concern to the international community requiring war to stave off state and command responsibility. The CIA regime and the government of Israel both have a vital interest in general war.

    Dear Anonymous – I note that you are also posting identical material under the name Non, both of which are originating in Israel. If you persist in using multiple false identities from Israel we will assume that you are hasbara and we will block all your identities from this site. Robert Mueller might also have an interest in what you are up to…

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    which are originating in Israel.
     
    that revelation is hilarious when you read what it wrote

    priceless

    lol

    sort of reminds me of when David Duke pointed out how Wolf Blitzer was/is an AIPAC zealot while posturing as an objective journalist.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0KDAeQYNDg

    'have not the Jews suffered enough?"

    here's the interview where Duke pointed out Blitzer's bias, treachery and dishonesty

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgFOSHK6TaI

    I've never looked at Blitzer (or CNN) the same after that.
    , @renfro
    Thanks for pointing that out.
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  132. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    What I am terrible upset seeing all those degenerate egheads on CNN as that John Clapper.

    I would love to see Clapper hanging by his neck, right beside Brennan and Comey. It would be bearable to look at him then.

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  133. @geokat62
    Note to Ron Unz.

    Not sure if others are experiencing the same difficulties, but the comments archive is not functioning properly. The “later/earlier” links do not work and comments beyond those displayed on the first page cannot be accessed.

    I have seen the same malfunction. Also, clicking on the link to a comment by another party in the comments page takes you to the top of the comments section of that article instead of to the comment you tried to access.

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  134. Ron Unz says:
    @geokat62
    Note to Ron Unz.

    Not sure if others are experiencing the same difficulties, but the comments archive is not functioning properly. The “later/earlier” links do not work and comments beyond those displayed on the first page cannot be accessed.

    Fixed.

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    Thanks, Ron... appreciate it.
    , @FKA Max
    Off-topic:

    Mr. Unz,

    I noticed that the recent Jason Kessler featured article was removed both on the Unz Review as well as on VDare:

    http://www.unz.com/article/political-prosecutions-anarcho-tyranny-and-narrative-collapse

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/political-prosecutions-anarcho-tyranny-and-narrative-collapse-a-charlottesville-court-case-update

    Is this due to censorship or was something factually wrong with the article?

    I found cached versions of the article and archived them (text versions only):

    http://archive.is/Z19Uh Unz Review link

    http://archive.is/jdvvE VDare link

    Thank you.

    , @FKA Max
    I found a strange bug in my archives.

    When I "Switch Ascending/Descending Order" in my archives the sidebar is moved to the bottom of the page and is replaced by comments of mine: http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?CommentOrder=ASC&commenterfilter=FKA+Max

    I checked your and geokat62's archives for the same problem, but they are OK:

    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?CommentOrder=ASC&commenterfilter=Ron+Unz

    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?CommentOrder=ASC&commenterfilter=geokat62

    Thank you.
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  135. Rurik says:
    @Philip Giraldi
    Dear Anonymous - I note that you are also posting identical material under the name Non, both of which are originating in Israel. If you persist in using multiple false identities from Israel we will assume that you are hasbara and we will block all your identities from this site. Robert Mueller might also have an interest in what you are up to...

    which are originating in Israel.

    that revelation is hilarious when you read what it wrote

    priceless

    lol

    sort of reminds me of when David Duke pointed out how Wolf Blitzer was/is an AIPAC zealot while posturing as an objective journalist.

    ‘have not the Jews suffered enough?”

    here’s the interview where Duke pointed out Blitzer’s bias, treachery and dishonesty

    I’ve never looked at Blitzer (or CNN) the same after that.

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    Very funny video with ‘Wolf,’ Rurik. I couldn’t stomach watching the whole thing but I had forgotten how stupid he really is. Thank for the reminder.
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  136. Moi says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    ZUSA spends 5 billion dollars to overthrow the government of piss-ant Ukraine and drives the economy into the dirt, meanwhile, Russia spends 1 million to take control of "the most powerful nation on Earth" and the stock market soars. That is impressive! There's money to be made! Surely these meddlers should be put on the payroll immediately and used for the next coup, which can't be far off since Ukraine was in 2014.

    It’s like Mencken said: “No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.”

    :-)

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  137. chris says:
    @Bragadocious
    Oliver has that unmistakable English pedo look, and therefore appeals to certain people in charge of our major media. There's also a certain portion of Americans who like to be put down by English people. They all tend to be Hillary voters and government workers. I think Oliver's safe, pending some damaging information about his private proclivities.

    Funny point you’re making about Oliver, he’s ruining that whole gentrified image the Brits used to have. I hope MI6 is taking this into consideration when sending these loones out; because no amount of topless Kate Middleton photos will make up for this.

    But I really don’t get these foreigners like him and Steel feeling so strongly about our politicians and our political system. I understand middle easterners feeling that way about it in order to stop the drones from raining death and destruction on their countries, but what is it to some stupid Britt? (No offense to London Bob, etc.)

    I wouldn’t presume to go to England to tell them what imbecile politicians they should or shouldn’t vote for. But someone is letting these dim wits feel mighty empowered about their contributions to our system. Maybe it’s the same people who are telling our Mexican migrants to feel empowered.

    What (other than money and maybe lack of attention at home) makes them feel so at home sticking their ‘bloody’ noses into this pile of crap; and unlike some of the foreign commentators here at Unz, they’re doing it all in support of the status quo!? WTF?

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    Steele's goal and the goal of the Brits since forever is to keep the Americans in line. They still see us as a colony that needs to be controlled. So when a guy with eccentric hair and a perma-tan runs for President and says disparaging things about NATO, the Limey self-preservation gene kicks in. They figure, this man has to be stopped. And they'll call you "stupid" for even recognizing this for what it is.

    They should be kicked out of the country -- their diplomats, "journalists" and John Oliver himself. Although I hear he's married a Yank, so it could be tough in his case.

    As for the British gentrified image, that's another lie we've been fed. Half of all British men are either on disability or dress up in Barney costumes and prey on little kids in the park.
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  138. RobinG says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Thanks for one of the most interesting links I have seen posted on UR. Presumably that intelligent humane man is now lost to history because at almost the moment of his interview Reagan and Thatcher and Gorbuchev (the simple version) were about to show his knowledge of the USSR as out of date - though Part 3 is nonetheless fascinating.

    BTW I would like to see it again with subtitles which I did for the first two parts, but then for all parts it showed with sound only. Any advice on remedy? I would like to forward it to several old codgers.

    In the YouTube tool bar, there’s an icon to click….. CC in a box. Does that work for you?

    Here’s another oldie (1961) –

    Pipeline to Paradise – How Al Gaddafi built the greatest humanitarian project
    [The Great River]

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  139. geokat62 says:
    @Ron Unz
    Fixed.

    Thanks, Ron… appreciate it.

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  140. chris says:
    @Rurik

    which are originating in Israel.
     
    that revelation is hilarious when you read what it wrote

    priceless

    lol

    sort of reminds me of when David Duke pointed out how Wolf Blitzer was/is an AIPAC zealot while posturing as an objective journalist.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0KDAeQYNDg

    'have not the Jews suffered enough?"

    here's the interview where Duke pointed out Blitzer's bias, treachery and dishonesty

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgFOSHK6TaI

    I've never looked at Blitzer (or CNN) the same after that.

    Very funny video with ‘Wolf,’ Rurik. I couldn’t stomach watching the whole thing but I had forgotten how stupid he really is. Thank for the reminder.

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  141. geokat62 says:
    @redmudhooch
    The fact that Mueller isn't in prison for treason in the cover up of 9/11, the fact that war criminals Bush, Clinton, 0bama, Wolfowitz, Kristol, are all still free and not in prison tells you all you need to know about Banana Republic USSA. CIA/Mossad needs to be shut down now.
    How many millions of innocent people murdered over lies and greed? Countries destroyed for the temporary benefit of criminally insane Israel, MIC, and the bankster cabal.
    This is madness, if something doesn't change, very soon, they will have their hell on Earth.
    The road these lunatics running DC have us on will only end in misery and suffering for everyone.
    They killed JFK for trying to put an end to this insanity. Ending the Fed, forcing AIPAC, Israel lobby to register under FARA, preventing them from getting their hands on nukes, they murdered him for it.
    Remember the false flag attack by Israel on USS Liberty. Same as 9/11.
    You folks better wake up, they plan on bringing this war back to America when they're done with their "project" over there. Why do you think they want to disarm America so badly for? Bolshevik Revolution 2.0.
    Heres what they talked about doing to 0bama if he got out of line:

    Atlanta Jewish Times featured a column by its owner-publisher suggesting that U.S.-based Israeli Mossad agents might someday need to “order a hit” on the president of the United States.
    http://original.antiwar.com/alison-weir/2012/01/24/israeli-assassinations-and-american-presidents/
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/284979-ajt.html
    On Jan. 13 the Atlanta Jewish Times featured a column by its owner-publisher suggesting that Israel might someday need to “order a hit” on the president of the United States.
    In the column, publisher Andrew Adler describes a scenario in which Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu would need to “give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel.”
    The purpose? So that the vice president could then take office and dictate U.S. policies that would help the Jewish state “obliterate its enemies.”
    Adler wrote that it is highly likely that the idea “has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circles.”
    Numerous Jewish leaders quickly condemned Adler, who has now apologized for the column, resigned, and put the newspaper up for sale. An Israeli columnist noted that the hatred being stirred up against Obama is similar to conditions in Israel that led to the murder of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin by a Jewish extremist.

    They killed JFK for trying to put an end to this insanity. Ending the Fed, forcing AIPAC, Israel lobby to register under FARA, preventing them from getting their hands on nukes, they murdered him for it.

    The first time I came across someone who put forward this hypothesis was when I read Michael Collins Piper’s Final Judgment: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy.

    The second time was when I read Grant Smith’s Big Israel:

    In 1963, the Kennedy administration was secretly fighting Israel’s nuclear weapons development program and had even secretly ordered Israel’s top—and largely foreign funded—lobbying organization the American Zionist Council to register as a foreign agent and openly report its public relations and secret lobbying expenditures on behalf of Israel.

    When Kennedy was assassinated the following November and conspiracy theories about Russian and Cuban complicity began to swirl, nobody of significance speculated about possible Israeli connections. That is because—as has become the norm in such cases—the relevant and highly detailed government records about the administration’s initiative to keep Israel’s lobby in check were effectively kept bottled up, in this case classified as secret until 2008. The story of JFK’s fight against the Israeli nuclear program was similarly withheld from the public until fairly recently. Nevertheless, one outcome is clear. JFK’s assassination settled both issues.

    The third time was when I viewed Brother Nathanael’s video, Growing Up With The New York Times, in which he states:

    My father was fond of [Kennedy] too, more because he was a Democrat, (Jews voted Democrat in those days), and knew that JFK opposed the nuclear ambitions of Israel which may have been the reason he was shot.

    His attempts to getting to the bottom of Israel’s secret nuke program may have played a big part in his assassination.

    It seems more and more people are willing to entertain this hypothesis as a plausible alternative to the official narrative.

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    geokat62 ended comment to redmudhooch and said: "It seems more and more people are willing to entertain this hypothesis as a plausible alternative to the official narrative."

    Hi geo and redmudhooch,

    Did you see Oliver Stone's "JFK"?

    In that film, dialogue on the mysterious company "Permindex" surfaced and quickly disappeared.

    Likely Director Stone was entertaining a "plausible alternative to the official narrative" but he chose to downsize "Permindex" and settled for the partial &
    cinematic narrative that was permitted at the riveting time of "JFK" box office opening.

    The concrete Way of the late-Michael Collins Piper was meant for more than just another Star Walk "footsie" imprint which is guaranteed to provoke adoration among captive-entertained tourists.

    Thank you.
    , @ChuckOrloski
    Hi geo,

    I sense a majority of Americans are being dangeroisly lulled into collective "ho-hums" on the topic of "Russiagate" and Mueller's deceptive investigation findings.

    F.Y.I., below is an article based upon the very unsettling political view of a former-Senate Ineliligence adviser.

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/02/22/553237/US-Russia-Trump-Putin-Ryabkov

    Made me wonder how far along is the ("Unspeakable") plan to start a nuclear war-apocalyse with Russia who ZUS Secretary of Offense Mad Dog Mattis recently identified as Enemy # 1? *

    * "Unspeakable" is the name Trappist Monk Thomas Merton bestowed upon internal US government-warmongers who relentlessly pressured President JFK to engage war with Khrushchev's Soviet Union.

    For the record, geokat, until mercilessly murdered, JFK maintained sane and peaceful diplomatic relations with Nikita Khrushchev. As a weird diplomatic twist-of-fate, one where unaccountable / high-level criminal behavior tends to repeat itself, our present day tribe of "Unspeakable" forces pressure for apocalyptic war against Putin's Russia.

    As P.G. wrote several weeks ago, "Bad Moon Rising." Thanks, geo.
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  142. chris says:
    @Anonymous
    @utu, Why Bush was not re-elected? Because he didn't need to be. His successor, with whom he ostentatiously met during the campaign, was Bill Clinton, another member of the CIA nomenklatura. Clinton was recruited into the CIA by no less a spook than Cord Meyer. Bush didn't need to hold the position of presidential figurehead, he controlled it, since his leadership position in CIA has life tenure.

    Sounds like you're implying that the Zionazis kept him out of office. IMO they don't have quite that much pull. The apartheid state makes itself useful to the CIA regime by providing cutouts for the most atrocious crimes, including 9/11. CIA interests currently align with Israel's. If that ceases to be the case, CIA will jettison them, as they jettisoned South Africa once it stunk too bad. It's difficult to think of a specific wedge issue that might trigger a breach at this point, since Israel and the CIA regime have a common problem: serious crimes of concern to the international community requiring war to stave off state and command responsibility. The CIA regime and the government of Israel both have a vital interest in general war.

    CIA interests currently align with Israel’s. If that ceases to be the case, CIA will jettison them, as they jettisoned South Africa once it stunk too bad.

    Really?? What will the hundreds of politicians flying to Israel on indoctrination junkets have to say about that? What about the media and AIPAC?

    The CIA regime and the government of Israel both have a vital interest in general war.

    Now I understand Israel having this interest, but why on earth would the CIA have such a ‘vital’ interest if they actually work for the US.gov ?

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    Anonymous/Non's mistake is his citation of "CIA regime." It is the [US & Global] Deep State (of which CIA is a component/tool) that demands permanent war. While their prime motivation is economic, and Israel's is the chaos of Arab neighbors, they do share the same policy.
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  143. @Mark James
    With witnesses and various intell services turning up information on Trump I look forward to future advancement of the case against him. I think he's *compromised.

    Katie Couric was made to apologize to the Dutch for suggesting that their preoccupation with skating on the below-sea-level rivers was the key to their Olympic success. But Dutch hackers proving their tradecraft working for AIVD have apparently cracked "Cozy Bear" whose job it was to gain access and steal from the DNC for Russia. SVR made sure that information ended up with WikiLeaks and the rest is history. Trump can no longer deny this. Boom.

    If sowing discord is just the only thing we have to worry about from Russia then this whole imbroglio is likely to not go very far. But it's reasonable to assume that Russia wants more than that. Perhaps a lot more. We'll see what Mueller can prove. But as of right now it appears like Trump is working with Russia's interests as a *key concern.

    Yes, if you repeat it enough times, I’ll believe it. Well done.

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  144. @Quartermaster
    Giraldi, you need to get off the Ukraine kick. The Ukrainian people rose on their own. They didn't need any encouragement to rise against Yanukovich's broken promise when he backed away from Europe, and tried to sign Ukraine over to Putin's kindly attentions. Ukrainians have always been restive under the Russian thumb and they have intention of being put back under it.

    Yeah, the Ukrainians may end up in the EU, which means subjugated by Muslims, raped and mugged by African “migrants”, mocked and lectured about their racist dissatisfaction with that state of affairs, and then more heavily taxed to pay for their new overlords.

    Much better to be under the US / EU thumb than Russia’s, huh.

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  145. RobinG says:
    @chris

    CIA interests currently align with Israel’s. If that ceases to be the case, CIA will jettison them, as they jettisoned South Africa once it stunk too bad.
     
    Really?? What will the hundreds of politicians flying to Israel on indoctrination junkets have to say about that? What about the media and AIPAC?

    The CIA regime and the government of Israel both have a vital interest in general war.
     
    Now I understand Israel having this interest, but why on earth would the CIA have such a ‘vital’ interest if they actually work for the US.gov ?

    Anonymous/Non’s mistake is his citation of “CIA regime.” It is the [US & Global] Deep State (of which CIA is a component/tool) that demands permanent war. While their prime motivation is economic, and Israel’s is the chaos of Arab neighbors, they do share the same policy.

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  146. @Notice
    Since no collusion took place between the Trump and any Russians, shouldnt Jeff Sessions tell Mueller to sew this thing up and go home now. Its been a year. There was no obstruction, no collusion, nothing. Its time for the country to move on.

    Sessions is busy with REALLLLLY important priorities like threatening Americans who smoke marijuana.

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    Yeah, he's like the rest room cleaner on the Titanic, methodically going about his business, hoping this whole nonsense about icebergs will just stop and that we can just get back to sailing into NY harbor.
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  147. @Curmudgeon
    "Merka went full commie under FDR nearly a century ago, so it’s long been a done deal."

    By "full commie" I presume you mean the commune of the chosenites.

    By “full commie” I presume you mean the commune of the chosenites.

    You presume as well as assume correctly.

    Hopefully by now everyone knows where the Bolshies got their money, support and useful idiots. Same as the Zio-nutzos.

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  148. @Anonymous
    There were Nazi sympathisers amongst the "rich and powerful American[s] and British" and P.G. Wodehouse even did some unwise broadcasting from Germany but I can't recall any who fit your description of "perpetrators of the H[h]olocaust". Help me out please.

    There were Nazi sympathisers amongst the “rich and powerful American[s] and British” and P.G. Wodehouse even did some unwise broadcasting from Germany but I can’t recall any who fit your description of “perpetrators of the H[h]olocaust”. Help me out please.

    I was referring to the real Holocaust, i.e., the one that snuffed 60 million Christians or may be 100 million and enslaved large portions of the survivors, most of whom are slaves to this day, although a large percent of them think they’re “free.”

    In case that doesn’t ring any bells for you, I was referring to the bank-rollers of the Bolshies and their useful idiots, not Nazis. For that I’ve been referred to as a Nazi apologist, a smear I’ll just have to live with. ;)

    I’ve explained this countless times over the past few years here, but if you want details, one excellent source would be Anthony Sutton’s “Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution.”

    Here you go, I’ve even provided a link for you…

    https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik_revolution-5.pdf

    Thanks for asking. Enjoy!

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  149. @chris
    Funny point you’re making about Oliver, he’s ruining that whole gentrified image the Brits used to have. I hope MI6 is taking this into consideration when sending these loones out; because no amount of topless Kate Middleton photos will make up for this.

    But I really don’t get these foreigners like him and Steel feeling so strongly about our politicians and our political system. I understand middle easterners feeling that way about it in order to stop the drones from raining death and destruction on their countries, but what is it to some stupid Britt? (No offense to London Bob, etc.)

    I wouldn’t presume to go to England to tell them what imbecile politicians they should or shouldn’t vote for. But someone is letting these dim wits feel mighty empowered about their contributions to our system. Maybe it’s the same people who are telling our Mexican migrants to feel empowered.

    What (other than money and maybe lack of attention at home) makes them feel so at home sticking their ‘bloody’ noses into this pile of crap; and unlike some of the foreign commentators here at Unz, they’re doing it all in support of the status quo!? WTF?

    Steele’s goal and the goal of the Brits since forever is to keep the Americans in line. They still see us as a colony that needs to be controlled. So when a guy with eccentric hair and a perma-tan runs for President and says disparaging things about NATO, the Limey self-preservation gene kicks in. They figure, this man has to be stopped. And they’ll call you “stupid” for even recognizing this for what it is.

    They should be kicked out of the country — their diplomats, “journalists” and John Oliver himself. Although I hear he’s married a Yank, so it could be tough in his case.

    As for the British gentrified image, that’s another lie we’ve been fed. Half of all British men are either on disability or dress up in Barney costumes and prey on little kids in the park.

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  150. @geokat62

    They killed JFK for trying to put an end to this insanity. Ending the Fed, forcing AIPAC, Israel lobby to register under FARA, preventing them from getting their hands on nukes, they murdered him for it.
     
    The first time I came across someone who put forward this hypothesis was when I read Michael Collins Piper's Final Judgment: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy.

    The second time was when I read Grant Smith’s Big Israel:

    In 1963, the Kennedy administration was secretly fighting Israel’s nuclear weapons development program and had even secretly ordered Israel’s top—and largely foreign funded—lobbying organization the American Zionist Council to register as a foreign agent and openly report its public relations and secret lobbying expenditures on behalf of Israel.

    When Kennedy was assassinated the following November and conspiracy theories about Russian and Cuban complicity began to swirl, nobody of significance speculated about possible Israeli connections. That is because—as has become the norm in such cases—the relevant and highly detailed government records about the administration’s initiative to keep Israel’s lobby in check were effectively kept bottled up, in this case classified as secret until 2008. The story of JFK’s fight against the Israeli nuclear program was similarly withheld from the public until fairly recently. Nevertheless, one outcome is clear. JFK’s assassination settled both issues.
     
    The third time was when I viewed Brother Nathanael's video, Growing Up With The New York Times, in which he states:

    My father was fond of [Kennedy] too, more because he was a Democrat, (Jews voted Democrat in those days), and knew that JFK opposed the nuclear ambitions of Israel which may have been the reason he was shot.

    His attempts to getting to the bottom of Israel’s secret nuke program may have played a big part in his assassination.
     
    https://youtu.be/JmlfHMmDKuY

    It seems more and more people are willing to entertain this hypothesis as a plausible alternative to the official narrative.

    geokat62 ended comment to redmudhooch and said: “It seems more and more people are willing to entertain this hypothesis as a plausible alternative to the official narrative.”

    Hi geo and redmudhooch,

    Did you see Oliver Stone’s “JFK”?

    In that film, dialogue on the mysterious company “Permindex” surfaced and quickly disappeared.

    Likely Director Stone was entertaining a “plausible alternative to the official narrative” but he chose to downsize “Permindex” and settled for the partial &
    cinematic narrative that was permitted at the riveting time of “JFK” box office opening.

    The concrete Way of the late-Michael Collins Piper was meant for more than just another Star Walk “footsie” imprint which is guaranteed to provoke adoration among captive-entertained tourists.

    Thank you.

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    Below is a fascinating video documentary on "Permindex" by Michele Letta.

    https://youtu.be/-Gu8PzjJpg4

    Too late, I learned Oliver Stone honorably expressed praise for her work and I bashed him to an excess.

    American legend John Wayne (in films) advised apprentice cowboys to, "Never apologize."

    (Zigh) Often I feel like a mongoose mocking Jewish King Cobra here at U.R., but it makes little sense for me to "never apologize," turn to stone.

    Dimona sky's not cloudy all day? Good night!
    , @annamaria
    "The Permindex-CIA (and Mossad) Link to JFK Murder:" https://nodisinfo.com/jfk-permindex-cia-mossad-link/
    Permindex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permindex
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  151. @ChuckOrloski
    geokat62 ended comment to redmudhooch and said: "It seems more and more people are willing to entertain this hypothesis as a plausible alternative to the official narrative."

    Hi geo and redmudhooch,

    Did you see Oliver Stone's "JFK"?

    In that film, dialogue on the mysterious company "Permindex" surfaced and quickly disappeared.

    Likely Director Stone was entertaining a "plausible alternative to the official narrative" but he chose to downsize "Permindex" and settled for the partial &
    cinematic narrative that was permitted at the riveting time of "JFK" box office opening.

    The concrete Way of the late-Michael Collins Piper was meant for more than just another Star Walk "footsie" imprint which is guaranteed to provoke adoration among captive-entertained tourists.

    Thank you.

    Below is a fascinating video documentary on “Permindex” by Michele Letta.

    Too late, I learned Oliver Stone honorably expressed praise for her work and I bashed him to an excess.

    American legend John Wayne (in films) advised apprentice cowboys to, “Never apologize.”

    (Zigh) Often I feel like a mongoose mocking Jewish King Cobra here at U.R., but it makes little sense for me to “never apologize,” turn to stone.

    Dimona sky’s not cloudy all day? Good night!

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  152. @Robin G, anent Deep State v. CIA, Who’s in charge? To examine a salient case: the coup against JFK and the follow-up extrajudicial killing of associated dissidents RFK and MLK. In each case CIA did it, using cutouts or agents in the military reserves, organized crime, and local police forces. In the case of MLK, everybody wants to get into the act when it’s time to whack an uppity negro, so the military was on board from the JCS on down. In the most drastic case of JFK, the relevant representative of a broader Deep State was John McCloy, a Rockefeller flunky, who attended the meeting at Clint Murchison’s that finalized the coup. So CIA kept the oligarchy informed in that case. But Sen. Jay Rockefeller whined in an interview that CIA controls and withholds all information needed for oversight. Of course. Rockefellers do not have impunity for murder or torture or armed attack. CIA does. Plutocrats have nice lives if they play ball. If they don’t… Joe Nacchio. Eliot Spitzer. &c, &c.

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  153. renfro says:
    @Philip Giraldi
    Dear Anonymous - I note that you are also posting identical material under the name Non, both of which are originating in Israel. If you persist in using multiple false identities from Israel we will assume that you are hasbara and we will block all your identities from this site. Robert Mueller might also have an interest in what you are up to...

    Thanks for pointing that out.

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  154. renfro says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    Complete nonsense. The idea that any is of this is healthy and can't wait for the democrats to be in a similar position is just off the wall.

    This is the kind of childishness that damages the integrity and veracity of the Republic. The level of waste, paranoia, misdirection, by this manufactured - thus far nonsense is what feeds an ineffective establishment and undermines what the democratic republic represents.

    No and absolutely not, this kind of tit for tat -- explains our foreign policy and internal ineptitude.

    No conservative should be applauding this nonsense and every conservative should be shunning it's use as as opposed to salivating their opportunity to engage it.

    Accurate data inaccurately interpreted or applied makes said data ineffectual.

    You must be desperate for attention today to make such a ridiculous comment.

    Repeat after me….’The ‘republic’ will not be healthy until the corruption is beaten out of both parties’

    I think Phil should also check out where you are originating from cause you use some very weird and radical and pro Jewish /Israel web sites to support your claims on here…like this one you used the other day :….

    http://www.targetofopportunity.com/mission.htm

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    well,


    you are responding to the a manufactured import. My comment has nothing to with your suggestion that "corruption" requires some tough decisions.

    But the suggestion that this tactic is useful to that end is nonsense. In fact, the issue with this tactic is that is reeks of corruption. Conclusion: we are not going to remove corruption by using the corrupt practices we want to stop.

    To many of you, anything that is isn't maligning Jews is suspect. And that is why I refrain from the inevitable Jewish whine fest. Most of which doesn't get to any substance as to removing or buffeting Israeli influence on US policy.

    Sigh. So as per usual, I certainly agree, that we should remove corruption, but the idea that we are going to do by grabbing the next opportunity to use the same tactics is entirely -- bankrupt.

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  155. chris says:
    @RadicalCenter
    Sessions is busy with REALLLLLY important priorities like threatening Americans who smoke marijuana.

    Yeah, he’s like the rest room cleaner on the Titanic, methodically going about his business, hoping this whole nonsense about icebergs will just stop and that we can just get back to sailing into NY harbor.

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  156. polskijoe says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    From my own experience I can cite Italy’s 1976 national election in which the CIA went all out to keep the communists out of government. Couriers were discreetly dispatched to the headquarters of all the Italian right wing parties dropping off bags of money for “expenses” while the Italian newspapers were full of articles written by Agency-paid hacks warning of the dangers of communism. And this all went on clandestinely even though Italy was a democracy, an ally and NATO member.
     
    Some Italians believe it didn't stop there, and that Operation Gladio--NATO's 'stay behind' organization in W. Europe--infiltrated the Red Brigades and killed PM Aldo Moro in 1978:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldo_Moro#Alternative_points_of_view_about_Moro's_death

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio#First_publicly_revealed_in_Italy

    And the CIA created another retarded idealogy called New Left
    along with the Commie Jews.

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  157. @geokat62

    They killed JFK for trying to put an end to this insanity. Ending the Fed, forcing AIPAC, Israel lobby to register under FARA, preventing them from getting their hands on nukes, they murdered him for it.
     
    The first time I came across someone who put forward this hypothesis was when I read Michael Collins Piper's Final Judgment: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy.

    The second time was when I read Grant Smith’s Big Israel:

    In 1963, the Kennedy administration was secretly fighting Israel’s nuclear weapons development program and had even secretly ordered Israel’s top—and largely foreign funded—lobbying organization the American Zionist Council to register as a foreign agent and openly report its public relations and secret lobbying expenditures on behalf of Israel.

    When Kennedy was assassinated the following November and conspiracy theories about Russian and Cuban complicity began to swirl, nobody of significance speculated about possible Israeli connections. That is because—as has become the norm in such cases—the relevant and highly detailed government records about the administration’s initiative to keep Israel’s lobby in check were effectively kept bottled up, in this case classified as secret until 2008. The story of JFK’s fight against the Israeli nuclear program was similarly withheld from the public until fairly recently. Nevertheless, one outcome is clear. JFK’s assassination settled both issues.
     
    The third time was when I viewed Brother Nathanael's video, Growing Up With The New York Times, in which he states:

    My father was fond of [Kennedy] too, more because he was a Democrat, (Jews voted Democrat in those days), and knew that JFK opposed the nuclear ambitions of Israel which may have been the reason he was shot.

    His attempts to getting to the bottom of Israel’s secret nuke program may have played a big part in his assassination.
     
    https://youtu.be/JmlfHMmDKuY

    It seems more and more people are willing to entertain this hypothesis as a plausible alternative to the official narrative.

    Hi geo,

    I sense a majority of Americans are being dangeroisly lulled into collective “ho-hums” on the topic of “Russiagate” and Mueller’s deceptive investigation findings.

    F.Y.I., below is an article based upon the very unsettling political view of a former-Senate Ineliligence adviser.

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/02/22/553237/US-Russia-Trump-Putin-Ryabkov

    Made me wonder how far along is the (“Unspeakable”) plan to start a nuclear war-apocalyse with Russia who ZUS Secretary of Offense Mad Dog Mattis recently identified as Enemy # 1? *

    * “Unspeakable” is the name Trappist Monk Thomas Merton bestowed upon internal US government-warmongers who relentlessly pressured President JFK to engage war with Khrushchev’s Soviet Union.

    For the record, geokat, until mercilessly murdered, JFK maintained sane and peaceful diplomatic relations with Nikita Khrushchev. As a weird diplomatic twist-of-fate, one where unaccountable / high-level criminal behavior tends to repeat itself, our present day tribe of “Unspeakable” forces pressure for apocalyptic war against Putin’s Russia.

    As P.G. wrote several weeks ago, “Bad Moon Rising.” Thanks, geo.

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  158. annamaria says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    geokat62 ended comment to redmudhooch and said: "It seems more and more people are willing to entertain this hypothesis as a plausible alternative to the official narrative."

    Hi geo and redmudhooch,

    Did you see Oliver Stone's "JFK"?

    In that film, dialogue on the mysterious company "Permindex" surfaced and quickly disappeared.

    Likely Director Stone was entertaining a "plausible alternative to the official narrative" but he chose to downsize "Permindex" and settled for the partial &
    cinematic narrative that was permitted at the riveting time of "JFK" box office opening.

    The concrete Way of the late-Michael Collins Piper was meant for more than just another Star Walk "footsie" imprint which is guaranteed to provoke adoration among captive-entertained tourists.

    Thank you.

    “The Permindex-CIA (and Mossad) Link to JFK Murder:” https://nodisinfo.com/jfk-permindex-cia-mossad-link/
    Permindex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permindex

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    Hi annamaria,

    Thanks for your comment response including article links to Permindex and CIA/Mossad.

    I figured the Italian Metta's history-presentation on Permindex might inspire someone here at U.R. to probe deeper into how treacherously Permindex evolved. You did and thanks again!

    Selah Meyer Lansky and Samson.
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  159. As high-octane propoganda fuel is added to starting ZUS war with Russia, I offer below Israeli News Live and a discussion about the curious (?) timing of Reverend Billy Graham’s death and enthusiasm for the “Rapture.”

    No doubt Billy’s charismatic preaching brought many to the Gospel, but the (Beatitude) pronouncement about “blessed are the peacemakers” did not fly with either presidents he ministered to, or Zio Corporate Media “Talking” Warheads.

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  160. I would suggest that Moscow might well want to destroy American democracy but there is no evidence in the indictment to support that hypothesis.

    Heck, that is one job that Americans will do. We got that destruction thing covered!

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  161. @annamaria
    "The Permindex-CIA (and Mossad) Link to JFK Murder:" https://nodisinfo.com/jfk-permindex-cia-mossad-link/
    Permindex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permindex

    Hi annamaria,

    Thanks for your comment response including article links to Permindex and CIA/Mossad.

    I figured the Italian Metta’s history-presentation on Permindex might inspire someone here at U.R. to probe deeper into how treacherously Permindex evolved. You did and thanks again!

    Selah Meyer Lansky and Samson.

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  162. Yep. Also the Deep State has additional pretext to further monitor and regulate web activity.

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  163. annamaria says:
    @Ronald Thomas West
    Hi Phil

    You could have summed up Mueller's indictment with a few tweets like Raimondo did, notably "I can't even *read* Mueller's indictment without laughing: what he's "indicted" is a clickbait operation set up to *make money*" ... or just focused on one word "clickbait"

    1) I can't even *read* Mueller's indictment without laughing: what he's "indicted" is a clickbait operation set up to *make money*. From the "indictment":
    "Defendants and their co-conspirators also used the accounts to receive money from real U.S. persons in exchange for ...

    https://twitter.com/JustinRaimondo
     
    On another note, you write:

    "From my own experience I can cite Italy’s 1976 national election in which the CIA went all out to keep the communists out of government. Couriers were discreetly dispatched to the headquarters of all the Italian right wing parties dropping off bags of money for “expenses” while the Italian newspapers were full of articles written by Agency-paid hacks warning of the dangers of communism. And this all went on clandestinely even though Italy was a democracy, an ally and NATO member"

    The CIA went all out? I suspect the CIA has done more than drop bags of cash... noting if you were giving testimony as a witness, an adversarial attorney would argue to the judge you'd opened the door to questions concerning "Gladio"

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio

    I'm likely not the only one who'd like to hear more...

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/12/24/americas-deep-state-corporate-oligarchy/

    ^

    Ron West

    What could explain the ongoing hissy fit of Russophobia better than the obvious displeasure (irritation) of Banksters and Israel-firsters with the independent spirit of Russia? http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/02/the-rothschild-organ-and-octoputin-projection-or-envy.html#comments
    “At least 26% of the British Economist is owned by the Rothschild family. Lynn Forester de Rothschild and her spouse Evelyn de Rothschild are sitting on the board of the Economist Group. Is the publishing of the Putin squid by the Rothschild organ some kind of psychological projection? Or is it envy?”
    From the comment section:
    “In an uninformed America, fake news organization like NYT, Wapo and Economist can peddle fake news about fake news with nary a question of its accuracy. A dangerous time for the world. MORONS R/U$”
    “Perfect storm. “I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire, … The man that controls Britain’s money supply controls the British Empire. And I control the money supply.” Bearing mind that the US Federal Reserve is a private consortium of Rothschild-linked banks and it was another Rothschild that basically wrote the Balfour Declaration… The icing on the oligarchic system is Bernays-inspired propaganda.”
    — Mueller is a servant to the “deciders;” his principal gift is the boundless opportunism. He might look like a man but in actuality he is a eunuch of decency. There is obviously something quite miserable and undignified about Mr. Mueller behavior. That was his choice of “earning” the comforts of life.

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    Kevin Shipp mentions the history of the bankers and Federal Reserve (as well his take on 'the Russians did it') in his recent posts at youtube:

    Part one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQouKi7xDpM

    Part two:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO-mcduYCEA

    Notable quote: "Operation Mockingbird did not end" CIA officer Kevin Shipp, in two parts, brings a (very condensed) history of the CIA (primarily) up to present, inclusive of his interpretations of the present circumstance surrounding Trump (that I don't entirely agree with.) However, what Shipp does that's really quite interesting is, cede the idea the Steele 'dossier' was actually obtained from senior Russian intelligence contacts and then proceeds to rip apart this proposed fact from a counter-intelligence point of view; in short, makes the point of 'why would Russian intelligence provide any information other than something to make the MI6 & CIA look like fools (or worse) when it all turned out to be bulls**t.'
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  164. Just started reading LeCarre’s “Smiley’s People.” The portrait of the oppressiveness of Soviet-Russian operatives matches the tales of a friend who was in Peace Corp in Uzbekistan during Soviet era: scary Russian thugs spying on everybody and making people afraid just to Be.

    At the same time I’m reading LeCarre, I’ve been corresponding with a friend about the various characters in Tolstoy’s and Dostoevsky’s novels. In addition, I enjoy the friendship of a (very few) Russian people; we share a (neophyte, on my part) love of opera (not Oprah).

    The images painted by LeCarre do not match the image of “Russian-ness” from the great Russian novelists, Russian history, and my Russian friends.

    What is different? What happened that distorted Russia from Tolstoy to Trotsky?

    Douglas Reed provides the answer: it’s Judahite/Levitic Jews.

    As posted earlier, Rabbi Henry Abramson affirms that answer: Judahite Jews destroyed Russian-ness for over a century, then, having plundered that once-fertile field, moved on to “change” USA to suit the destructive predilections of Russian Jews/Levites who, Abramson falsely asserts, were “forced” to migrate to USA as “refugees.” (this is a whole ‘nother topic: Jews pulled out all the stops to expand migration to USA beginning in the 19-teens).

    Zionist/Levitic Jews like the mentally deranged Rabbi Stephen Wise and the traitor Louis Brandeis were but two of the Jewish leaders who led the charge to demonize Germany in order to gain the acquiescence of the American people to wage total — as in a totally destructive holocaust — of the German people.

    As Douglas Reed explains, the hatred of Levitic Jews is impossible to slake; they are psychotic in their hatred and in their cunning ability to persuade others to Hate as intensely as they do.

    It is these same Levitic psychos that are behind the current bout of Russophobia (as well as Iranophobia) that is infecting the American people and captured their leaders.

    We are dealing with a sickness that has destroyed nation after nation, and culture upon culture.

    Rurik and renfro plead with some of us to ‘stop with the holocaust denial’ arguments. I suspect they are younger American patriots, for whom 9/11 is more present and pressing. It is certainly true that 9/11 was a act that manifest the perfidy of psychotic Judahites in collusion with willing dupes in US government.
    I insist on revisiting “Nazism” and “the holocaust” because I believe National Socialism and Hitler and his many loyal supporters thought very carefully about ways to counteract the Judahite psychosis with as little violence as possible, and carried out that plan successfully, until FDR was seduced to throw the full weight of the USA behind the effort to satisfy Judahite blood lust and destroy Germany.

    I support and endorse the work of John Wear.
    In the latest posting on Wear’s War https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2018/02/19/wearswar-fireside-chat-3-with-john-wear-about-auschwitz-survivor-encounters-dresden-remembrance-2018-lady-renouf-monika-schaefers-letters/
    Wear states his positions openly, and encourages others to put their own names behind Truth Telling.

    The founders of USA were mortals and flawed; Washington instructed “Mad” Anthony Wayne to destroy all Indian villages and habitations along the “Three Rivers” from the Pennsylvania mountains to the Ohio River valley. Jefferson and others were able to be as creative and productive as they were because they relied on slave labor.
    But the most compelling statement that stirs this first-generation American is the ‘seal’ preceding the signatures on the Declaration of Independence:

    And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

    Rabbi Abramson lauds those Russian Jews who were “forced” migrants to the USA, and who determined to change the USA, presumably to make it more like the way Trotskyites and Levites had distorted Russian culture.

    I think it’s time we said NO.

    NO to Neal Gabler and the Hollywood distortion of American values.
    NO to the Judahite passion for engendering Hatred of whatever sovereign state or people finds itself in the crosshairs of the Levites.

    Like John Wear, Phil Giraldi has put his “life, his fortune and his sacred honor” to the task of “seek[ing] a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East.”

    I am struggling to summon the same courage.
    Keyboard warring is safe and easy.
    More of us need to come out of the closet; we need a #MeToo movement that proclaims with firm determination:

    Zionism is Racism.

    Judahite values are not American values.

    Zionism/Levitism has distorted and destroyed the cultures of Poland, France, Britain, Russia, Germany, Italy, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, the USA, and is hard at work to destroy Iran and Syria.

    When is Enough Enough?

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    Meanwhile, in the Kaganat of Nuland (former Ukraine), the Ukrainians are learning about the price of the "democracy on the march" brought to them by the US ziocons with the help of the CIA: https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/02/shocking-eu-reforms-ukraines-public.html
    "At the end of 2013. Ukraine's state publicly guaranteed debt was 40% of GDP, and by the end of 2017 it had more than doubled, exceeding 80% of GDP. In 2013, Ukraine's GDP per capita was more than $ 4,075, and in 2016 decreased to $ 2221.
    The average monthly salary in 2017 as a whole for the country was $ 267 (in 2013 it exceeded $ 408), pensions are also 2.3 times lower than before the euro reform. Today, it is slightly more than $ 48, while in 2013 it was almost $ 112. … The data of numerous international ratings testify to the catastrophic situation in the country. In particular, Ukraine ranks 7th in the rating of the most unfortunate countries according to Bloomberg. In the rating of prosperity of the Legatum Institute, Ukraine is in the 112th place, although in 2013 it occupied 64th place. In the rating "The best countries for a comfortable pension," Ukraine was in the 72nd place. In the rating of economic freedom, according to Heritage Foundation, Ukraine among the countries of Europe is in last place, 44th."
    ---To alleviate the economic woes, the US (infested with ziocons) and Canada (infested with Nazis' progeny) have been sending the lethal weaponry to use against pro-federalists in the eastern region of Ukraine. https://inmilitary.com/giving-ukraine-lethal-weapons-massive-mistake/ https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2017/12/14/kiev-hails-us-canada-for-greenlighting-lethal-arms-supplies-that-could-kill-ukraine-peace-process/
    -- it is amazing how the ziocons' and neo-Nazis' interests have been converging on their hatred towards Russians.
    , @renfro

    Rurik and renfro plead with some of us to ‘stop with the holocaust denial’ arguments. I suspect they are younger American patriots, for whom 9/11 is more present and pressing. It is certainly true that 9/11 was a act that manifest the perfidy of psychotic Judahites in collusion with willing dupes in US government
     
    I think you misread me SC........I did put out a call to pay more attention to what the Jewish Fifth Column is doing today....but I don't call for ending holocaust denial or investigations.
    Just call for more balance or conversation re the past and the present of Jewish perfidy in the US and ME.
    I think as far as the wider population goes raising hell about what they are doing today like attacking our constitutional rights..i.e. free speech and boycotting ....what the public can see happening today... is more useful in ending the 'Jewish problem' in the US. Because once its ended here its ended everywhere.
    , @renfro
    BTW..I am an old American . I was in college when Kennedy was killed.
    , @ChuckOrloski
    SolontoCroesus said: "I support and endorse the work of John Wear."

    Hi S2C,

    Unaware on Mr. Wear, now I also support his work!

    Comments slowed down here and V.T.'s Dr. Kevin Barrett today warned that Russia is the lesser target of "Russiagate" and Deep State identification of vocal American dissidents is the larger target.

    Thanks, S2C! I endorse your consistent wear & tear work.
    , @ChuckOrloski
    Hi again, S2C,

    As all is quiet on The P.G. Comment Front, so I figured it would be OK to "out my head" and link the said V.T. article for your review and evaluation.

    Mr. Barrett's work made sense in contrast that which Mr. Mueller is doing. Refer below.

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/02/22/us-deep-state-targeting-alternative-media-american-scholar/

    Thanks again for the precious introduction to John Wear's bright & shiny "Lone Star State" thought!
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  165. @annamaria
    What could explain the ongoing hissy fit of Russophobia better than the obvious displeasure (irritation) of Banksters and Israel-firsters with the independent spirit of Russia? http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/02/the-rothschild-organ-and-octoputin-projection-or-envy.html#comments
    "At least 26% of the British Economist is owned by the Rothschild family. Lynn Forester de Rothschild and her spouse Evelyn de Rothschild are sitting on the board of the Economist Group. Is the publishing of the Putin squid by the Rothschild organ some kind of psychological projection? Or is it envy?"
    From the comment section:
    "In an uninformed America, fake news organization like NYT, Wapo and Economist can peddle fake news about fake news with nary a question of its accuracy. A dangerous time for the world. MORONS R/U$"
    "Perfect storm. "I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire, ... The man that controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire. And I control the money supply." Bearing mind that the US Federal Reserve is a private consortium of Rothschild-linked banks and it was another Rothschild that basically wrote the Balfour Declaration... The icing on the oligarchic system is Bernays-inspired propaganda."
    --- Mueller is a servant to the "deciders;" his principal gift is the boundless opportunism. He might look like a man but in actuality he is a eunuch of decency. There is obviously something quite miserable and undignified about Mr. Mueller behavior. That was his choice of "earning" the comforts of life.

    Kevin Shipp mentions the history of the bankers and Federal Reserve (as well his take on ‘the Russians did it’) in his recent posts at youtube:

    Part one:

    Part two:

    Notable quote: “Operation Mockingbird did not end” CIA officer Kevin Shipp, in two parts, brings a (very condensed) history of the CIA (primarily) up to present, inclusive of his interpretations of the present circumstance surrounding Trump (that I don’t entirely agree with.) However, what Shipp does that’s really quite interesting is, cede the idea the Steele ‘dossier’ was actually obtained from senior Russian intelligence contacts and then proceeds to rip apart this proposed fact from a counter-intelligence point of view; in short, makes the point of ‘why would Russian intelligence provide any information other than something to make the MI6 & CIA look like fools (or worse) when it all turned out to be bulls**t.’

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    Considering the incredible Awan affair and certain Dm. Alperovitch' upper hand over the FBI (the DNC' computers' "hacking" fable), one would rather think that the stupid "dossier" was a homespun rope. https://joeforamerica.com/2017/12/awan-brothers-and-dws-scandal-resurfaces-as-details-of-shadiest-deal-yet-emerge/
    , @Erebus

    ... in short, makes the point of ‘why would Russian intelligence provide any information other than something to make the MI6 & CIA look like fools (or worse) when it all turned out to be bulls**t.’
     
    That was my first and remains my best guess as to what really happened.

    It was a Judo move; Steele was looking for dirt, and the Kremlin gave him a sticky tar baby. BTW, my other pet theory is that that's why Rosenstein, Mueller and others are still there.

    It wouldn't surprise me if a future instalment of this fiasco features the 13 (or some of them) turning themselves in for trial.
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  166. FKA Max says:
    @Ron Unz
    Fixed.

    Off-topic:

    Mr. Unz,

    I noticed that the recent Jason Kessler featured article was removed both on the Unz Review as well as on VDare:

    http://www.unz.com/article/political-prosecutions-anarcho-tyranny-and-narrative-collapse

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/political-prosecutions-anarcho-tyranny-and-narrative-collapse-a-charlottesville-court-case-update

    Is this due to censorship or was something factually wrong with the article?

    I found cached versions of the article and archived them (text versions only):

    http://archive.is/Z19Uh Unz Review link

    http://archive.is/jdvvE VDare link

    Thank you.

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    The article re-appeared:

    Original article as now updated at VDare Website
     

    - http://www.unz.com/article/political-prosecutions-anarcho-tyranny-and-narrative-collapse/

    Anarcho-Tyranny Update: Continued Unequal Justice For Charlottesville Five (Now Six)

    VDARE.com Editor Peter Brimelow writes: When VDARE.com’s Colorado conference was cancelled in the Great post-Charlottesville Moral Panic, I said that I would not stop posting contributions from Jason Kessler, unlike some conservative sites, and here he is. Kessler describes himself as a “freelance journalist and activist,” which is what most Main Stream Media writers actually are. Our position: it checks out: we’ll post it.
     
    - http://www.vdare.com/articles/anarchotyrannyincville

    Thank you.

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  167. annamaria says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    Just started reading LeCarre's "Smiley's People." The portrait of the oppressiveness of Soviet-Russian operatives matches the tales of a friend who was in Peace Corp in Uzbekistan during Soviet era: scary Russian thugs spying on everybody and making people afraid just to Be.

    At the same time I'm reading LeCarre, I've been corresponding with a friend about the various characters in Tolstoy's and Dostoevsky's novels. In addition, I enjoy the friendship of a (very few) Russian people; we share a (neophyte, on my part) love of opera (not Oprah).

    The images painted by LeCarre do not match the image of "Russian-ness" from the great Russian novelists, Russian history, and my Russian friends.

    What is different? What happened that distorted Russia from Tolstoy to Trotsky?

    Douglas Reed provides the answer: it's Judahite/Levitic Jews.

    As posted earlier, Rabbi Henry Abramson affirms that answer: Judahite Jews destroyed Russian-ness for over a century, then, having plundered that once-fertile field, moved on to "change" USA to suit the destructive predilections of Russian Jews/Levites who, Abramson falsely asserts, were "forced" to migrate to USA as "refugees." (this is a whole 'nother topic: Jews pulled out all the stops to expand migration to USA beginning in the 19-teens).

    Zionist/Levitic Jews like the mentally deranged Rabbi Stephen Wise and the traitor Louis Brandeis were but two of the Jewish leaders who led the charge to demonize Germany in order to gain the acquiescence of the American people to wage total -- as in a totally destructive holocaust -- of the German people.

    As Douglas Reed explains, the hatred of Levitic Jews is impossible to slake; they are psychotic in their hatred and in their cunning ability to persuade others to Hate as intensely as they do.

    It is these same Levitic psychos that are behind the current bout of Russophobia (as well as Iranophobia) that is infecting the American people and captured their leaders.

    We are dealing with a sickness that has destroyed nation after nation, and culture upon culture.

    Rurik and renfro plead with some of us to 'stop with the holocaust denial' arguments. I suspect they are younger American patriots, for whom 9/11 is more present and pressing. It is certainly true that 9/11 was a act that manifest the perfidy of psychotic Judahites in collusion with willing dupes in US government.
    I insist on revisiting "Nazism" and "the holocaust" because I believe National Socialism and Hitler and his many loyal supporters thought very carefully about ways to counteract the Judahite psychosis with as little violence as possible, and carried out that plan successfully, until FDR was seduced to throw the full weight of the USA behind the effort to satisfy Judahite blood lust and destroy Germany.

    I support and endorse the work of John Wear.
    In the latest posting on Wear's War https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2018/02/19/wearswar-fireside-chat-3-with-john-wear-about-auschwitz-survivor-encounters-dresden-remembrance-2018-lady-renouf-monika-schaefers-letters/
    Wear states his positions openly, and encourages others to put their own names behind Truth Telling.

    The founders of USA were mortals and flawed; Washington instructed "Mad" Anthony Wayne to destroy all Indian villages and habitations along the "Three Rivers" from the Pennsylvania mountains to the Ohio River valley. Jefferson and others were able to be as creative and productive as they were because they relied on slave labor.
    But the most compelling statement that stirs this first-generation American is the 'seal' preceding the signatures on the Declaration of Independence:

    And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

    Rabbi Abramson lauds those Russian Jews who were "forced" migrants to the USA, and who determined to change the USA, presumably to make it more like the way Trotskyites and Levites had distorted Russian culture.

    I think it's time we said NO.

    NO to Neal Gabler and the Hollywood distortion of American values.
    NO to the Judahite passion for engendering Hatred of whatever sovereign state or people finds itself in the crosshairs of the Levites.

    Like John Wear, Phil Giraldi has put his "life, his fortune and his sacred honor" to the task of "seek[ing] a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East."

    I am struggling to summon the same courage.
    Keyboard warring is safe and easy.
    More of us need to come out of the closet; we need a #MeToo movement that proclaims with firm determination:

    Zionism is Racism.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-9knJt3k8E

    Judahite values are not American values.

    Zionism/Levitism has distorted and destroyed the cultures of Poland, France, Britain, Russia, Germany, Italy, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, the USA, and is hard at work to destroy Iran and Syria.

    When is Enough Enough?

    Meanwhile, in the Kaganat of Nuland (former Ukraine), the Ukrainians are learning about the price of the “democracy on the march” brought to them by the US ziocons with the help of the CIA: https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/02/shocking-eu-reforms-ukraines-public.html
    “At the end of 2013. Ukraine’s state publicly guaranteed debt was 40% of GDP, and by the end of 2017 it had more than doubled, exceeding 80% of GDP. In 2013, Ukraine’s GDP per capita was more than $ 4,075, and in 2016 decreased to $ 2221.
    The average monthly salary in 2017 as a whole for the country was $ 267 (in 2013 it exceeded $ 408), pensions are also 2.3 times lower than before the euro reform. Today, it is slightly more than $ 48, while in 2013 it was almost $ 112. … The data of numerous international ratings testify to the catastrophic situation in the country. In particular, Ukraine ranks 7th in the rating of the most unfortunate countries according to Bloomberg. In the rating of prosperity of the Legatum Institute, Ukraine is in the 112th place, although in 2013 it occupied 64th place. In the rating “The best countries for a comfortable pension,” Ukraine was in the 72nd place. In the rating of economic freedom, according to Heritage Foundation, Ukraine among the countries of Europe is in last place, 44th.”
    —To alleviate the economic woes, the US (infested with ziocons) and Canada (infested with Nazis’ progeny) have been sending the lethal weaponry to use against pro-federalists in the eastern region of Ukraine. https://inmilitary.com/giving-ukraine-lethal-weapons-massive-mistake/ https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2017/12/14/kiev-hails-us-canada-for-greenlighting-lethal-arms-supplies-that-could-kill-ukraine-peace-process/
    – it is amazing how the ziocons’ and neo-Nazis’ interests have been converging on their hatred towards Russians.

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    Zionists and Neonazi have created a sort of "alliance".

    Neonazis cause problems to Jews, Jews run to Israel. Simple.
    Hitler wanted similar up to 1941.
    Now this is kinda small. Its actually Muslims in Europe causing Jews to move.

    The CIA worked with Bandera factions and gave them aid. Bandera factions simply hid by saying they accept democracy. Many moved to the West. That Canadian minister (Freeland?) is a hybrid of Bandera and Jewish ancestry. Thats the type who is fanatically antiRussian.


    Now... Zionists dont care much about Ukraine. Though they some billionares, and some Jews in Ukraine.

    Zionists will pit all the Slavic countries againts each other. Get all those Bandera types easily angry and some send to the front lines.
    More importantly also normal Ukrainians and normal Russians are dying.
    The Anglo imperialists like it too.
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  168. renfro says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    Just started reading LeCarre's "Smiley's People." The portrait of the oppressiveness of Soviet-Russian operatives matches the tales of a friend who was in Peace Corp in Uzbekistan during Soviet era: scary Russian thugs spying on everybody and making people afraid just to Be.

    At the same time I'm reading LeCarre, I've been corresponding with a friend about the various characters in Tolstoy's and Dostoevsky's novels. In addition, I enjoy the friendship of a (very few) Russian people; we share a (neophyte, on my part) love of opera (not Oprah).

    The images painted by LeCarre do not match the image of "Russian-ness" from the great Russian novelists, Russian history, and my Russian friends.

    What is different? What happened that distorted Russia from Tolstoy to Trotsky?

    Douglas Reed provides the answer: it's Judahite/Levitic Jews.

    As posted earlier, Rabbi Henry Abramson affirms that answer: Judahite Jews destroyed Russian-ness for over a century, then, having plundered that once-fertile field, moved on to "change" USA to suit the destructive predilections of Russian Jews/Levites who, Abramson falsely asserts, were "forced" to migrate to USA as "refugees." (this is a whole 'nother topic: Jews pulled out all the stops to expand migration to USA beginning in the 19-teens).

    Zionist/Levitic Jews like the mentally deranged Rabbi Stephen Wise and the traitor Louis Brandeis were but two of the Jewish leaders who led the charge to demonize Germany in order to gain the acquiescence of the American people to wage total -- as in a totally destructive holocaust -- of the German people.

    As Douglas Reed explains, the hatred of Levitic Jews is impossible to slake; they are psychotic in their hatred and in their cunning ability to persuade others to Hate as intensely as they do.

    It is these same Levitic psychos that are behind the current bout of Russophobia (as well as Iranophobia) that is infecting the American people and captured their leaders.

    We are dealing with a sickness that has destroyed nation after nation, and culture upon culture.

    Rurik and renfro plead with some of us to 'stop with the holocaust denial' arguments. I suspect they are younger American patriots, for whom 9/11 is more present and pressing. It is certainly true that 9/11 was a act that manifest the perfidy of psychotic Judahites in collusion with willing dupes in US government.
    I insist on revisiting "Nazism" and "the holocaust" because I believe National Socialism and Hitler and his many loyal supporters thought very carefully about ways to counteract the Judahite psychosis with as little violence as possible, and carried out that plan successfully, until FDR was seduced to throw the full weight of the USA behind the effort to satisfy Judahite blood lust and destroy Germany.

    I support and endorse the work of John Wear.
    In the latest posting on Wear's War https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2018/02/19/wearswar-fireside-chat-3-with-john-wear-about-auschwitz-survivor-encounters-dresden-remembrance-2018-lady-renouf-monika-schaefers-letters/
    Wear states his positions openly, and encourages others to put their own names behind Truth Telling.

    The founders of USA were mortals and flawed; Washington instructed "Mad" Anthony Wayne to destroy all Indian villages and habitations along the "Three Rivers" from the Pennsylvania mountains to the Ohio River valley. Jefferson and others were able to be as creative and productive as they were because they relied on slave labor.
    But the most compelling statement that stirs this first-generation American is the 'seal' preceding the signatures on the Declaration of Independence:

    And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

    Rabbi Abramson lauds those Russian Jews who were "forced" migrants to the USA, and who determined to change the USA, presumably to make it more like the way Trotskyites and Levites had distorted Russian culture.

    I think it's time we said NO.

    NO to Neal Gabler and the Hollywood distortion of American values.
    NO to the Judahite passion for engendering Hatred of whatever sovereign state or people finds itself in the crosshairs of the Levites.

    Like John Wear, Phil Giraldi has put his "life, his fortune and his sacred honor" to the task of "seek[ing] a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East."

    I am struggling to summon the same courage.
    Keyboard warring is safe and easy.
    More of us need to come out of the closet; we need a #MeToo movement that proclaims with firm determination:

    Zionism is Racism.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-9knJt3k8E

    Judahite values are not American values.

    Zionism/Levitism has distorted and destroyed the cultures of Poland, France, Britain, Russia, Germany, Italy, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, the USA, and is hard at work to destroy Iran and Syria.

    When is Enough Enough?

    Rurik and renfro plead with some of us to ‘stop with the holocaust denial’ arguments. I suspect they are younger American patriots, for whom 9/11 is more present and pressing. It is certainly true that 9/11 was a act that manifest the perfidy of psychotic Judahites in collusion with willing dupes in US government

    I think you misread me SC……..I did put out a call to pay more attention to what the Jewish Fifth Column is doing today….but I don’t call for ending holocaust denial or investigations.
    Just call for more balance or conversation re the past and the present of Jewish perfidy in the US and ME.
    I think as far as the wider population goes raising hell about what they are doing today like attacking our constitutional rights..i.e. free speech and boycotting ….what the public can see happening today… is more useful in ending the ‘Jewish problem’ in the US. Because once its ended here its ended everywhere.

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    How about the Jewish problem in the Middle East.
    (I understand that most Zionist elites live in the US).

    But Israel has 80-200 nukes. They ignore law. No one does anything except some UN resolutions.
    Their Mossad can assassinate leaders.

    By the time US may do anything internalaly about issue (if possible), Israel could expand.
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  169. renfro says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    Just started reading LeCarre's "Smiley's People." The portrait of the oppressiveness of Soviet-Russian operatives matches the tales of a friend who was in Peace Corp in Uzbekistan during Soviet era: scary Russian thugs spying on everybody and making people afraid just to Be.

    At the same time I'm reading LeCarre, I've been corresponding with a friend about the various characters in Tolstoy's and Dostoevsky's novels. In addition, I enjoy the friendship of a (very few) Russian people; we share a (neophyte, on my part) love of opera (not Oprah).

    The images painted by LeCarre do not match the image of "Russian-ness" from the great Russian novelists, Russian history, and my Russian friends.

    What is different? What happened that distorted Russia from Tolstoy to Trotsky?

    Douglas Reed provides the answer: it's Judahite/Levitic Jews.

    As posted earlier, Rabbi Henry Abramson affirms that answer: Judahite Jews destroyed Russian-ness for over a century, then, having plundered that once-fertile field, moved on to "change" USA to suit the destructive predilections of Russian Jews/Levites who, Abramson falsely asserts, were "forced" to migrate to USA as "refugees." (this is a whole 'nother topic: Jews pulled out all the stops to expand migration to USA beginning in the 19-teens).

    Zionist/Levitic Jews like the mentally deranged Rabbi Stephen Wise and the traitor Louis Brandeis were but two of the Jewish leaders who led the charge to demonize Germany in order to gain the acquiescence of the American people to wage total -- as in a totally destructive holocaust -- of the German people.

    As Douglas Reed explains, the hatred of Levitic Jews is impossible to slake; they are psychotic in their hatred and in their cunning ability to persuade others to Hate as intensely as they do.

    It is these same Levitic psychos that are behind the current bout of Russophobia (as well as Iranophobia) that is infecting the American people and captured their leaders.

    We are dealing with a sickness that has destroyed nation after nation, and culture upon culture.

    Rurik and renfro plead with some of us to 'stop with the holocaust denial' arguments. I suspect they are younger American patriots, for whom 9/11 is more present and pressing. It is certainly true that 9/11 was a act that manifest the perfidy of psychotic Judahites in collusion with willing dupes in US government.
    I insist on revisiting "Nazism" and "the holocaust" because I believe National Socialism and Hitler and his many loyal supporters thought very carefully about ways to counteract the Judahite psychosis with as little violence as possible, and carried out that plan successfully, until FDR was seduced to throw the full weight of the USA behind the effort to satisfy Judahite blood lust and destroy Germany.

    I support and endorse the work of John Wear.
    In the latest posting on Wear's War https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2018/02/19/wearswar-fireside-chat-3-with-john-wear-about-auschwitz-survivor-encounters-dresden-remembrance-2018-lady-renouf-monika-schaefers-letters/
    Wear states his positions openly, and encourages others to put their own names behind Truth Telling.

    The founders of USA were mortals and flawed; Washington instructed "Mad" Anthony Wayne to destroy all Indian villages and habitations along the "Three Rivers" from the Pennsylvania mountains to the Ohio River valley. Jefferson and others were able to be as creative and productive as they were because they relied on slave labor.
    But the most compelling statement that stirs this first-generation American is the 'seal' preceding the signatures on the Declaration of Independence:

    And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

    Rabbi Abramson lauds those Russian Jews who were "forced" migrants to the USA, and who determined to change the USA, presumably to make it more like the way Trotskyites and Levites had distorted Russian culture.

    I think it's time we said NO.

    NO to Neal Gabler and the Hollywood distortion of American values.
    NO to the Judahite passion for engendering Hatred of whatever sovereign state or people finds itself in the crosshairs of the Levites.

    Like John Wear, Phil Giraldi has put his "life, his fortune and his sacred honor" to the task of "seek[ing] a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East."

    I am struggling to summon the same courage.
    Keyboard warring is safe and easy.
    More of us need to come out of the closet; we need a #MeToo movement that proclaims with firm determination:

    Zionism is Racism.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-9knJt3k8E

    Judahite values are not American values.

    Zionism/Levitism has distorted and destroyed the cultures of Poland, France, Britain, Russia, Germany, Italy, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, the USA, and is hard at work to destroy Iran and Syria.

    When is Enough Enough?

    BTW..I am an old American . I was in college when Kennedy was killed.

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  170. annamaria says:
    @Ronald Thomas West
    Kevin Shipp mentions the history of the bankers and Federal Reserve (as well his take on 'the Russians did it') in his recent posts at youtube:

    Part one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQouKi7xDpM

    Part two:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO-mcduYCEA

    Notable quote: "Operation Mockingbird did not end" CIA officer Kevin Shipp, in two parts, brings a (very condensed) history of the CIA (primarily) up to present, inclusive of his interpretations of the present circumstance surrounding Trump (that I don't entirely agree with.) However, what Shipp does that's really quite interesting is, cede the idea the Steele 'dossier' was actually obtained from senior Russian intelligence contacts and then proceeds to rip apart this proposed fact from a counter-intelligence point of view; in short, makes the point of 'why would Russian intelligence provide any information other than something to make the MI6 & CIA look like fools (or worse) when it all turned out to be bulls**t.'

    Considering the incredible Awan affair and certain Dm. Alperovitch’ upper hand over the FBI (the DNC’ computers’ “hacking” fable), one would rather think that the stupid “dossier” was a homespun rope. https://joeforamerica.com/2017/12/awan-brothers-and-dws-scandal-resurfaces-as-details-of-shadiest-deal-yet-emerge/

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  171. Erebus says:
    @Ronald Thomas West
    Kevin Shipp mentions the history of the bankers and Federal Reserve (as well his take on 'the Russians did it') in his recent posts at youtube:

    Part one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQouKi7xDpM

    Part two:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO-mcduYCEA

    Notable quote: "Operation Mockingbird did not end" CIA officer Kevin Shipp, in two parts, brings a (very condensed) history of the CIA (primarily) up to present, inclusive of his interpretations of the present circumstance surrounding Trump (that I don't entirely agree with.) However, what Shipp does that's really quite interesting is, cede the idea the Steele 'dossier' was actually obtained from senior Russian intelligence contacts and then proceeds to rip apart this proposed fact from a counter-intelligence point of view; in short, makes the point of 'why would Russian intelligence provide any information other than something to make the MI6 & CIA look like fools (or worse) when it all turned out to be bulls**t.'

    … in short, makes the point of ‘why would Russian intelligence provide any information other than something to make the MI6 & CIA look like fools (or worse) when it all turned out to be bulls**t.’

    That was my first and remains my best guess as to what really happened.

    It was a Judo move; Steele was looking for dirt, and the Kremlin gave him a sticky tar baby. BTW, my other pet theory is that that’s why Rosenstein, Mueller and others are still there.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if a future instalment of this fiasco features the 13 (or some of them) turning themselves in for trial.

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  172. @renfro
    You must be desperate for attention today to make such a ridiculous comment.

    Repeat after me....'The 'republic' will not be healthy until the corruption is beaten out of both parties'

    I think Phil should also check out where you are originating from cause you use some very weird and radical and pro Jewish /Israel web sites to support your claims on here...like this one you used the other day :....

    http://www.targetofopportunity.com/mission.htm

    well,

    you are responding to the a manufactured import. My comment has nothing to with your suggestion that “corruption” requires some tough decisions.

    But the suggestion that this tactic is useful to that end is nonsense. In fact, the issue with this tactic is that is reeks of corruption. Conclusion: we are not going to remove corruption by using the corrupt practices we want to stop.

    To many of you, anything that is isn’t maligning Jews is suspect. And that is why I refrain from the inevitable Jewish whine fest. Most of which doesn’t get to any substance as to removing or buffeting Israeli influence on US policy.

    Sigh. So as per usual, I certainly agree, that we should remove corruption, but the idea that we are going to do by grabbing the next opportunity to use the same tactics is entirely — bankrupt.

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  173. renfro says:

    I see you are still desperate for something to pontificate on weird one.

    The tacit I am in favor of is….investigations…..not squirrelly dossiers ..but you knew that…you just needed something to comment on.
    Already Mueller’s investigation has had an effect on lobbying for foreign interest without registering ……there’s currently an avalanche of lobbyist having to register as foreign agents before they get caught up with indictments as foreign agents… which is a good thing.

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  174. polskijoe says:
    @annamaria
    Meanwhile, in the Kaganat of Nuland (former Ukraine), the Ukrainians are learning about the price of the "democracy on the march" brought to them by the US ziocons with the help of the CIA: https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/02/shocking-eu-reforms-ukraines-public.html
    "At the end of 2013. Ukraine's state publicly guaranteed debt was 40% of GDP, and by the end of 2017 it had more than doubled, exceeding 80% of GDP. In 2013, Ukraine's GDP per capita was more than $ 4,075, and in 2016 decreased to $ 2221.
    The average monthly salary in 2017 as a whole for the country was $ 267 (in 2013 it exceeded $ 408), pensions are also 2.3 times lower than before the euro reform. Today, it is slightly more than $ 48, while in 2013 it was almost $ 112. … The data of numerous international ratings testify to the catastrophic situation in the country. In particular, Ukraine ranks 7th in the rating of the most unfortunate countries according to Bloomberg. In the rating of prosperity of the Legatum Institute, Ukraine is in the 112th place, although in 2013 it occupied 64th place. In the rating "The best countries for a comfortable pension," Ukraine was in the 72nd place. In the rating of economic freedom, according to Heritage Foundation, Ukraine among the countries of Europe is in last place, 44th."
    ---To alleviate the economic woes, the US (infested with ziocons) and Canada (infested with Nazis' progeny) have been sending the lethal weaponry to use against pro-federalists in the eastern region of Ukraine. https://inmilitary.com/giving-ukraine-lethal-weapons-massive-mistake/ https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2017/12/14/kiev-hails-us-canada-for-greenlighting-lethal-arms-supplies-that-could-kill-ukraine-peace-process/
    -- it is amazing how the ziocons' and neo-Nazis' interests have been converging on their hatred towards Russians.

    Zionists and Neonazi have created a sort of “alliance”.

    Neonazis cause problems to Jews, Jews run to Israel. Simple.
    Hitler wanted similar up to 1941.
    Now this is kinda small. Its actually Muslims in Europe causing Jews to move.

    The CIA worked with Bandera factions and gave them aid. Bandera factions simply hid by saying they accept democracy. Many moved to the West. That Canadian minister (Freeland?) is a hybrid of Bandera and Jewish ancestry. Thats the type who is fanatically antiRussian.

    Now… Zionists dont care much about Ukraine. Though they some billionares, and some Jews in Ukraine.

    Zionists will pit all the Slavic countries againts each other. Get all those Bandera types easily angry and some send to the front lines.
    More importantly also normal Ukrainians and normal Russians are dying.
    The Anglo imperialists like it too.

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  175. polskijoe says:
    @renfro

    Rurik and renfro plead with some of us to ‘stop with the holocaust denial’ arguments. I suspect they are younger American patriots, for whom 9/11 is more present and pressing. It is certainly true that 9/11 was a act that manifest the perfidy of psychotic Judahites in collusion with willing dupes in US government
     
    I think you misread me SC........I did put out a call to pay more attention to what the Jewish Fifth Column is doing today....but I don't call for ending holocaust denial or investigations.
    Just call for more balance or conversation re the past and the present of Jewish perfidy in the US and ME.
    I think as far as the wider population goes raising hell about what they are doing today like attacking our constitutional rights..i.e. free speech and boycotting ....what the public can see happening today... is more useful in ending the 'Jewish problem' in the US. Because once its ended here its ended everywhere.

    How about the Jewish problem in the Middle East.
    (I understand that most Zionist elites live in the US).

    But Israel has 80-200 nukes. They ignore law. No one does anything except some UN resolutions.
    Their Mossad can assassinate leaders.

    By the time US may do anything internalaly about issue (if possible), Israel could expand.

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    Like I said, end the Jewish problem in the US and that will end the Israel ME problem. Whether or not, as you said, its done in time is the big question.

    How to get that done is another question...I have never hesitated to call our Israel first politicians traitors in my phone calls to my rep in congress or hesitated to call zio Jews or evangelical retards traitors to the country . So maybe we need more of that ..or maybe we just need a really crack assassination squad of our own....good for the goose, good for the gander reciprocity.

    I could do an outline of what would happen to Israel and within Israel if the US withdrew its financial support and protection but its too long to go into now...I'll do it another time.
    Suffice it to say however that Israel would not only be dead in the water, it would be underwater economically and militarily speaking......end of ME problem.

    And no, no other big power would step in to save it---the ONLY thing of value Israel has ever had to offer or sell to other countries is the Jewish Fifth Column's influence in US government. Without that it becomes a small country without US weapons and aircraft, without the US as grantor of its debts it will pay more for its foreign purchases, without the US guarantee of protection US intel companies, the largest IT employers in Israel, and other foreign firms will desert it because of the constant risk Israel creates for itself, etc.,etc......it goes on and on.
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  176. renfro says:
    @polskijoe
    How about the Jewish problem in the Middle East.
    (I understand that most Zionist elites live in the US).

    But Israel has 80-200 nukes. They ignore law. No one does anything except some UN resolutions.
    Their Mossad can assassinate leaders.

    By the time US may do anything internalaly about issue (if possible), Israel could expand.

    Like I said, end the Jewish problem in the US and that will end the Israel ME problem. Whether or not, as you said, its done in time is the big question.

    How to get that done is another question…I have never hesitated to call our Israel first politicians traitors in my phone calls to my rep in congress or hesitated to call zio Jews or evangelical retards traitors to the country . So maybe we need more of that ..or maybe we just need a really crack assassination squad of our own….good for the goose, good for the gander reciprocity.

    I could do an outline of what would happen to Israel and within Israel if the US withdrew its financial support and protection but its too long to go into now…I’ll do it another time.
    Suffice it to say however that Israel would not only be dead in the water, it would be underwater economically and militarily speaking……end of ME problem.

    And no, no other big power would step in to save it—the ONLY thing of value Israel has ever had to offer or sell to other countries is the Jewish Fifth Column’s influence in US government. Without that it becomes a small country without US weapons and aircraft, without the US as grantor of its debts it will pay more for its foreign purchases, without the US guarantee of protection US intel companies, the largest IT employers in Israel, and other foreign firms will desert it because of the constant risk Israel creates for itself, etc.,etc……it goes on and on.

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  177. FB says:
    @Mark James
    With witnesses and various intell services turning up information on Trump I look forward to future advancement of the case against him. I think he's *compromised.

    Katie Couric was made to apologize to the Dutch for suggesting that their preoccupation with skating on the below-sea-level rivers was the key to their Olympic success. But Dutch hackers proving their tradecraft working for AIVD have apparently cracked "Cozy Bear" whose job it was to gain access and steal from the DNC for Russia. SVR made sure that information ended up with WikiLeaks and the rest is history. Trump can no longer deny this. Boom.

    If sowing discord is just the only thing we have to worry about from Russia then this whole imbroglio is likely to not go very far. But it's reasonable to assume that Russia wants more than that. Perhaps a lot more. We'll see what Mueller can prove. But as of right now it appears like Trump is working with Russia's interests as a *key concern.

    ‘…But Dutch hackers proving their tradecraft working for AIVD have apparently cracked “Cozy Bear” whose job it was to gain access and steal from the DNC for Russia.

    SVR made sure that information ended up with WikiLeaks and the rest is history. Trump can no longer deny this. Boom…’

    I think we have our mushroom tripper of the year award right here…

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  178. @SolontoCroesus
    Just started reading LeCarre's "Smiley's People." The portrait of the oppressiveness of Soviet-Russian operatives matches the tales of a friend who was in Peace Corp in Uzbekistan during Soviet era: scary Russian thugs spying on everybody and making people afraid just to Be.

    At the same time I'm reading LeCarre, I've been corresponding with a friend about the various characters in Tolstoy's and Dostoevsky's novels. In addition, I enjoy the friendship of a (very few) Russian people; we share a (neophyte, on my part) love of opera (not Oprah).

    The images painted by LeCarre do not match the image of "Russian-ness" from the great Russian novelists, Russian history, and my Russian friends.

    What is different? What happened that distorted Russia from Tolstoy to Trotsky?

    Douglas Reed provides the answer: it's Judahite/Levitic Jews.

    As posted earlier, Rabbi Henry Abramson affirms that answer: Judahite Jews destroyed Russian-ness for over a century, then, having plundered that once-fertile field, moved on to "change" USA to suit the destructive predilections of Russian Jews/Levites who, Abramson falsely asserts, were "forced" to migrate to USA as "refugees." (this is a whole 'nother topic: Jews pulled out all the stops to expand migration to USA beginning in the 19-teens).

    Zionist/Levitic Jews like the mentally deranged Rabbi Stephen Wise and the traitor Louis Brandeis were but two of the Jewish leaders who led the charge to demonize Germany in order to gain the acquiescence of the American people to wage total -- as in a totally destructive holocaust -- of the German people.

    As Douglas Reed explains, the hatred of Levitic Jews is impossible to slake; they are psychotic in their hatred and in their cunning ability to persuade others to Hate as intensely as they do.

    It is these same Levitic psychos that are behind the current bout of Russophobia (as well as Iranophobia) that is infecting the American people and captured their leaders.

    We are dealing with a sickness that has destroyed nation after nation, and culture upon culture.

    Rurik and renfro plead with some of us to 'stop with the holocaust denial' arguments. I suspect they are younger American patriots, for whom 9/11 is more present and pressing. It is certainly true that 9/11 was a act that manifest the perfidy of psychotic Judahites in collusion with willing dupes in US government.
    I insist on revisiting "Nazism" and "the holocaust" because I believe National Socialism and Hitler and his many loyal supporters thought very carefully about ways to counteract the Judahite psychosis with as little violence as possible, and carried out that plan successfully, until FDR was seduced to throw the full weight of the USA behind the effort to satisfy Judahite blood lust and destroy Germany.

    I support and endorse the work of John Wear.
    In the latest posting on Wear's War https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2018/02/19/wearswar-fireside-chat-3-with-john-wear-about-auschwitz-survivor-encounters-dresden-remembrance-2018-lady-renouf-monika-schaefers-letters/
    Wear states his positions openly, and encourages others to put their own names behind Truth Telling.

    The founders of USA were mortals and flawed; Washington instructed "Mad" Anthony Wayne to destroy all Indian villages and habitations along the "Three Rivers" from the Pennsylvania mountains to the Ohio River valley. Jefferson and others were able to be as creative and productive as they were because they relied on slave labor.
    But the most compelling statement that stirs this first-generation American is the 'seal' preceding the signatures on the Declaration of Independence:

    And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

    Rabbi Abramson lauds those Russian Jews who were "forced" migrants to the USA, and who determined to change the USA, presumably to make it more like the way Trotskyites and Levites had distorted Russian culture.

    I think it's time we said NO.

    NO to Neal Gabler and the Hollywood distortion of American values.
    NO to the Judahite passion for engendering Hatred of whatever sovereign state or people finds itself in the crosshairs of the Levites.

    Like John Wear, Phil Giraldi has put his "life, his fortune and his sacred honor" to the task of "seek[ing] a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East."

    I am struggling to summon the same courage.
    Keyboard warring is safe and easy.
    More of us need to come out of the closet; we need a #MeToo movement that proclaims with firm determination:

    Zionism is Racism.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-9knJt3k8E

    Judahite values are not American values.

    Zionism/Levitism has distorted and destroyed the cultures of Poland, France, Britain, Russia, Germany, Italy, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, the USA, and is hard at work to destroy Iran and Syria.

    When is Enough Enough?

    SolontoCroesus said: “I support and endorse the work of John Wear.”

    Hi S2C,

    Unaware on Mr. Wear, now I also support his work!

    Comments slowed down here and V.T.’s Dr. Kevin Barrett today warned that Russia is the lesser target of “Russiagate” and Deep State identification of vocal American dissidents is the larger target.

    Thanks, S2C! I endorse your consistent wear & tear work.

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    Thanks, CO! I missed S2C's superb (as always) comment until you posted yours.
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  179. FKA Max says:
    @FKA Max
    Off-topic:

    Mr. Unz,

    I noticed that the recent Jason Kessler featured article was removed both on the Unz Review as well as on VDare:

    http://www.unz.com/article/political-prosecutions-anarcho-tyranny-and-narrative-collapse

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/political-prosecutions-anarcho-tyranny-and-narrative-collapse-a-charlottesville-court-case-update

    Is this due to censorship or was something factually wrong with the article?

    I found cached versions of the article and archived them (text versions only):

    http://archive.is/Z19Uh Unz Review link

    http://archive.is/jdvvE VDare link

    Thank you.

    The article re-appeared:

    Original article as now updated at VDare Website

    http://www.unz.com/article/political-prosecutions-anarcho-tyranny-and-narrative-collapse/

    Anarcho-Tyranny Update: Continued Unequal Justice For Charlottesville Five (Now Six)

    VDARE.com Editor Peter Brimelow writes: When VDARE.com’s Colorado conference was cancelled in the Great post-Charlottesville Moral Panic, I said that I would not stop posting contributions from Jason Kessler, unlike some conservative sites, and here he is. Kessler describes himself as a “freelance journalist and activist,” which is what most Main Stream Media writers actually are. Our position: it checks out: we’ll post it.

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/anarchotyrannyincville

    Thank you.

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  180. @SolontoCroesus
    Just started reading LeCarre's "Smiley's People." The portrait of the oppressiveness of Soviet-Russian operatives matches the tales of a friend who was in Peace Corp in Uzbekistan during Soviet era: scary Russian thugs spying on everybody and making people afraid just to Be.

    At the same time I'm reading LeCarre, I've been corresponding with a friend about the various characters in Tolstoy's and Dostoevsky's novels. In addition, I enjoy the friendship of a (very few) Russian people; we share a (neophyte, on my part) love of opera (not Oprah).

    The images painted by LeCarre do not match the image of "Russian-ness" from the great Russian novelists, Russian history, and my Russian friends.

    What is different? What happened that distorted Russia from Tolstoy to Trotsky?

    Douglas Reed provides the answer: it's Judahite/Levitic Jews.

    As posted earlier, Rabbi Henry Abramson affirms that answer: Judahite Jews destroyed Russian-ness for over a century, then, having plundered that once-fertile field, moved on to "change" USA to suit the destructive predilections of Russian Jews/Levites who, Abramson falsely asserts, were "forced" to migrate to USA as "refugees." (this is a whole 'nother topic: Jews pulled out all the stops to expand migration to USA beginning in the 19-teens).

    Zionist/Levitic Jews like the mentally deranged Rabbi Stephen Wise and the traitor Louis Brandeis were but two of the Jewish leaders who led the charge to demonize Germany in order to gain the acquiescence of the American people to wage total -- as in a totally destructive holocaust -- of the German people.

    As Douglas Reed explains, the hatred of Levitic Jews is impossible to slake; they are psychotic in their hatred and in their cunning ability to persuade others to Hate as intensely as they do.

    It is these same Levitic psychos that are behind the current bout of Russophobia (as well as Iranophobia) that is infecting the American people and captured their leaders.

    We are dealing with a sickness that has destroyed nation after nation, and culture upon culture.

    Rurik and renfro plead with some of us to 'stop with the holocaust denial' arguments. I suspect they are younger American patriots, for whom 9/11 is more present and pressing. It is certainly true that 9/11 was a act that manifest the perfidy of psychotic Judahites in collusion with willing dupes in US government.
    I insist on revisiting "Nazism" and "the holocaust" because I believe National Socialism and Hitler and his many loyal supporters thought very carefully about ways to counteract the Judahite psychosis with as little violence as possible, and carried out that plan successfully, until FDR was seduced to throw the full weight of the USA behind the effort to satisfy Judahite blood lust and destroy Germany.

    I support and endorse the work of John Wear.
    In the latest posting on Wear's War https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2018/02/19/wearswar-fireside-chat-3-with-john-wear-about-auschwitz-survivor-encounters-dresden-remembrance-2018-lady-renouf-monika-schaefers-letters/
    Wear states his positions openly, and encourages others to put their own names behind Truth Telling.

    The founders of USA were mortals and flawed; Washington instructed "Mad" Anthony Wayne to destroy all Indian villages and habitations along the "Three Rivers" from the Pennsylvania mountains to the Ohio River valley. Jefferson and others were able to be as creative and productive as they were because they relied on slave labor.
    But the most compelling statement that stirs this first-generation American is the 'seal' preceding the signatures on the Declaration of Independence:

    And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

    Rabbi Abramson lauds those Russian Jews who were "forced" migrants to the USA, and who determined to change the USA, presumably to make it more like the way Trotskyites and Levites had distorted Russian culture.

    I think it's time we said NO.

    NO to Neal Gabler and the Hollywood distortion of American values.
    NO to the Judahite passion for engendering Hatred of whatever sovereign state or people finds itself in the crosshairs of the Levites.

    Like John Wear, Phil Giraldi has put his "life, his fortune and his sacred honor" to the task of "seek[ing] a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East."

    I am struggling to summon the same courage.
    Keyboard warring is safe and easy.
    More of us need to come out of the closet; we need a #MeToo movement that proclaims with firm determination:

    Zionism is Racism.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-9knJt3k8E

    Judahite values are not American values.

    Zionism/Levitism has distorted and destroyed the cultures of Poland, France, Britain, Russia, Germany, Italy, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, the USA, and is hard at work to destroy Iran and Syria.

    When is Enough Enough?

    Hi again, S2C,

    As all is quiet on The P.G. Comment Front, so I figured it would be OK to “out my head” and link the said V.T. article for your review and evaluation.

    Mr. Barrett’s work made sense in contrast that which Mr. Mueller is doing. Refer below.

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/02/22/us-deep-state-targeting-alternative-media-american-scholar/

    Thanks again for the precious introduction to John Wear’s bright & shiny “Lone Star State” thought!

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  181. @ChuckOrloski
    SolontoCroesus said: "I support and endorse the work of John Wear."

    Hi S2C,

    Unaware on Mr. Wear, now I also support his work!

    Comments slowed down here and V.T.'s Dr. Kevin Barrett today warned that Russia is the lesser target of "Russiagate" and Deep State identification of vocal American dissidents is the larger target.

    Thanks, S2C! I endorse your consistent wear & tear work.

    Thanks, CO! I missed S2C’s superb (as always) comment until you posted yours.

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    Hi Jacques,

    As in the case of Travelin' Talmud Sam, I began to think you might be away on "business" somewhere and I am glad to learn you read S2C's terrific comment.
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  182. @jacques sheete
    Thanks, CO! I missed S2C's superb (as always) comment until you posted yours.

    Hi Jacques,

    As in the case of Travelin’ Talmud Sam, I began to think you might be away on “business” somewhere and I am glad to learn you read S2C’s terrific comment.

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    As in the case of Travelin’ Talmud Sam, I began to think you might be away on “business” somewhere...
     
    I do that from time to time, but I don't pass around copies of the Talmud to the dumb goyim.

    Keep 'em comin, Chuck!
    , @jacques sheete
    Chuck, I've been busy on a couple of other articles, particularly the one by the astonishingly stupid and bigoted Mercer. She sure has some goofy ideas.

    It's hard to believe such ignorant, mindless cretins exist in the 21st century AD. Fortunately there are numerous intelligent comments to counterbalance the scribbling, babbling infant's garbage and the trolls' usual sewage, although the joker you mentioned appears not to have shown up yet with its usual pompous, inane and typically verbose drivel.

    http://www.unz.com/imercer/jews-must-never-forget-trump-for-remembering-our-unforgettable-jerusalem/#new_comments

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  183. FKA Max says:
    @Ron Unz
    Fixed.

    I found a strange bug in my archives.

    When I “Switch Ascending/Descending Order” in my archives the sidebar is moved to the bottom of the page and is replaced by comments of mine: http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?CommentOrder=ASC&commenterfilter=FKA+Max

    I checked your and geokat62′s archives for the same problem, but they are OK:

    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?CommentOrder=ASC&commenterfilter=Ron+Unz

    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?CommentOrder=ASC&commenterfilter=geokat62

    Thank you.

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    Fixed.
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  184. “Sowing discord.” Promoting “distrust of government.” Encouraging “divisiveness.”

    Don’t all these things strengthen “democracy”?

    Aren’t all these things the very essence of “democracy”?

    So what do the whole lot of Russiagate agitators and their automata in the rank and file mean when they say the “Russians” are trying to “destroy OUR democracy.”?

    If what they say is true, shouldn’t we be grateful to Putin for strengthening “our democracy”?

    They key word is “OUR.” This first person plural possessive refers to those who own the status quo. It is their “democracy” they want to defend.

    Not yours.

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  185. @ChuckOrloski
    Hi Jacques,

    As in the case of Travelin' Talmud Sam, I began to think you might be away on "business" somewhere and I am glad to learn you read S2C's terrific comment.

    As in the case of Travelin’ Talmud Sam, I began to think you might be away on “business” somewhere…

    I do that from time to time, but I don’t pass around copies of the Talmud to the dumb goyim.

    Keep ‘em comin, Chuck!

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  186. tika says:

    A private company in Russia… Who could have been hired to promote Trump by anyone… That includes the DNC. After all, we have learned from the Clinton emails that HRC’s campaign, which hijacked the DNC _did want_ Trump to be the GOP candidate.

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  187. annamaria says:

    The Humanity’s hope:

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    Thanks for this inspiring video, annamaria.

    I cross-posted it on Ilana Mercer's latest contribution to divisiveness and Jewish specialness --

    http://www.unz.com/imercer/jews-must-never-forget-trump-for-remembering-our-unforgettable-jerusalem/#comment-2218328

    and will add extended commentary on the full text of Psalm 137 (as well as Psalms 135 and 136).

    I first became aware of the awful-ness of those psalms via this flashmob:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_Y-yJBa8FA

    more to come . . .
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  188. rosemerry says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    ZUSA spends 5 billion dollars to overthrow the government of piss-ant Ukraine and drives the economy into the dirt, meanwhile, Russia spends 1 million to take control of "the most powerful nation on Earth" and the stock market soars. That is impressive! There's money to be made! Surely these meddlers should be put on the payroll immediately and used for the next coup, which can't be far off since Ukraine was in 2014.

    Excellent observation!

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  189. Ron Unz says:
    @FKA Max
    I found a strange bug in my archives.

    When I "Switch Ascending/Descending Order" in my archives the sidebar is moved to the bottom of the page and is replaced by comments of mine: http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?CommentOrder=ASC&commenterfilter=FKA+Max

    I checked your and geokat62's archives for the same problem, but they are OK:

    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?CommentOrder=ASC&commenterfilter=Ron+Unz

    http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?CommentOrder=ASC&commenterfilter=geokat62

    Thank you.

    Fixed.

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  190. Miro23 says:

    Robert Mueller was head of the FBI on 9/11. He sent his agents to collect video evidence of the Pentagon attack (never to be seen again), sent agents down to Florida to destroy evidence and warn witnesses to shut up about the Arab pilots and their VIP treatment on CIA airfields.

    In other words he was fully complicit in the 9/11 plot, and the murder of 3000 Americans ( trapped in Towers that didn’t come down by fire), and should himself be arrested and put on trial and end to this diversionary charade.

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    Miro23 said: "... trapped in Towers that didn’t come down by fire)"

    Hi Miro23,

    The 9/11 airplanes made of aluminum alloy did a helluva job after having crashed into the Towers' steel structures!

    The A-rab passport (evidence) was likely contained inside a double-walled asbestos cask that gave way before hitting ground "zero," and then recovered by a guy who got too little credit!

    And WTC-7 crumbled without having anything hit it! Whew!

    Amazing shit, eh Miro?

    In good conscience, must stop now.

    I can not waste anymore time writing this sort of dribble while Man O' Steel Mueller is working hard to collar Russians who conspired to destroy our democracy which doesn't even exist on paper.

    Thank you, Miro, you should be FBI Director!
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  191. @annamaria
    The Humanity's hope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbJcQYVtZMo

    Thanks for this inspiring video, annamaria.

    I cross-posted it on Ilana Mercer’s latest contribution to divisiveness and Jewish specialness –

    http://www.unz.com/imercer/jews-must-never-forget-trump-for-remembering-our-unforgettable-jerusalem/#comment-2218328

    and will add extended commentary on the full text of Psalm 137 (as well as Psalms 135 and 136).

    I first became aware of the awful-ness of those psalms via this flashmob:

    more to come . . .

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    Munich Security Conference. Feb. 18, 2018, Iran’s Foreign Minister said the shooting down of an Israeli jet after it bombed an Iranian site in Syria had shattered Israel’s “so-called invincibility”, reacting to a critical speech delivered earlier by Israel’s premier Benjamin Netanyahu.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLQh8j-KomI
    Iran's Zarif says Israel's 'myth of invincibility' has crumbled.
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  192. @Miro23
    Robert Mueller was head of the FBI on 9/11. He sent his agents to collect video evidence of the Pentagon attack (never to be seen again), sent agents down to Florida to destroy evidence and warn witnesses to shut up about the Arab pilots and their VIP treatment on CIA airfields.

    In other words he was fully complicit in the 9/11 plot, and the murder of 3000 Americans ( trapped in Towers that didn't come down by fire), and should himself be arrested and put on trial and end to this diversionary charade.

    Miro23 said: “… trapped in Towers that didn’t come down by fire)”

    Hi Miro23,

    The 9/11 airplanes made of aluminum alloy did a helluva job after having crashed into the Towers’ steel structures!

    The A-rab passport (evidence) was likely contained inside a double-walled asbestos cask that gave way before hitting ground “zero,” and then recovered by a guy who got too little credit!

    And WTC-7 crumbled without having anything hit it! Whew!

    Amazing shit, eh Miro?

    In good conscience, must stop now.

    I can not waste anymore time writing this sort of dribble while Man O’ Steel Mueller is working hard to collar Russians who conspired to destroy our democracy which doesn’t even exist on paper.

    Thank you, Miro, you should be FBI Director!

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  193. RobinG says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    Thanks for this inspiring video, annamaria.

    I cross-posted it on Ilana Mercer's latest contribution to divisiveness and Jewish specialness --

    http://www.unz.com/imercer/jews-must-never-forget-trump-for-remembering-our-unforgettable-jerusalem/#comment-2218328

    and will add extended commentary on the full text of Psalm 137 (as well as Psalms 135 and 136).

    I first became aware of the awful-ness of those psalms via this flashmob:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_Y-yJBa8FA

    more to come . . .

    Munich Security Conference. Feb. 18, 2018, Iran’s Foreign Minister said the shooting down of an Israeli jet after it bombed an Iranian site in Syria had shattered Israel’s “so-called invincibility”, reacting to a critical speech delivered earlier by Israel’s premier Benjamin Netanyahu.

    Iran’s Zarif says Israel’s ‘myth of invincibility’ has crumbled.

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  194. @ChuckOrloski
    Hi Jacques,

    As in the case of Travelin' Talmud Sam, I began to think you might be away on "business" somewhere and I am glad to learn you read S2C's terrific comment.

    Chuck, I’ve been busy on a couple of other articles, particularly the one by the astonishingly stupid and bigoted Mercer. She sure has some goofy ideas.

    It’s hard to believe such ignorant, mindless cretins exist in the 21st century AD. Fortunately there are numerous intelligent comments to counterbalance the scribbling, babbling infant’s garbage and the trolls’ usual sewage, although the joker you mentioned appears not to have shown up yet with its usual pompous, inane and typically verbose drivel.

    http://www.unz.com/imercer/jews-must-never-forget-trump-for-remembering-our-unforgettable-jerusalem/#new_comments

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    Hi Jacques,

    Strange how the weird Maven Shama and Little iffen-iffen are M.I.A. " both here and on the worthless Mercer article.

    When you can, please consider viewing my comment, # 322, which was in response to "renfro's" extraordinary knowledgeable comment to the foolish Mercer article that you have provided a link.

    F.Y.I., soon after President "Bomespur" announced intent to move ZUS Embassy to Jerusalem, he met with Palestinian Orthodox Archbishop Ramzi R. Musallam in order to discuss the Trump administration's provocatively explosive decision.

    Fox News channel aired a conversation with Archbishop Ramzi while he was in Zio D.C., and I tried but failed to access a "link" to the televised segment.

    Subsequently, if Research Specialist geokat62 is continuing to look at this article-comment thread, I appeal to him for help getting access
    to the elusive foxy-Fox News segment.

    Thanks Jacques!

    Post-scriptum: Today is Lent' s 2nd Sunday, commentating the Sunday of the Paralytic, Matthew 6:14. Is it time for worldwide people to help the paralyzed Palestinians to pick up their cross and walk united in the Orthodox, "True Faith"?
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  195. @jacques sheete
    Chuck, I've been busy on a couple of other articles, particularly the one by the astonishingly stupid and bigoted Mercer. She sure has some goofy ideas.

    It's hard to believe such ignorant, mindless cretins exist in the 21st century AD. Fortunately there are numerous intelligent comments to counterbalance the scribbling, babbling infant's garbage and the trolls' usual sewage, although the joker you mentioned appears not to have shown up yet with its usual pompous, inane and typically verbose drivel.

    http://www.unz.com/imercer/jews-must-never-forget-trump-for-remembering-our-unforgettable-jerusalem/#new_comments

    Hi Jacques,

    Strange how the weird Maven Shama and Little iffen-iffen are M.I.A. ” both here and on the worthless Mercer article.

    When you can, please consider viewing my comment, # 322, which was in response to “renfro’s” extraordinary knowledgeable comment to the foolish Mercer article that you have provided a link.

    F.Y.I., soon after President “Bomespur” announced intent to move ZUS Embassy to Jerusalem, he met with Palestinian Orthodox Archbishop Ramzi R. Musallam in order to discuss the Trump administration’s provocatively explosive decision.

    Fox News channel aired a conversation with Archbishop Ramzi while he was in Zio D.C., and I tried but failed to access a “link” to the televised segment.

    Subsequently, if Research Specialist geokat62 is continuing to look at this article-comment thread, I appeal to him for help getting access
    to the elusive foxy-Fox News segment.

    Thanks Jacques!

    Post-scriptum: Today is Lent’ s 2nd Sunday, commentating the Sunday of the Paralytic, Matthew 6:14. Is it time for worldwide people to help the paralyzed Palestinians to pick up their cross and walk united in the Orthodox, “True Faith”?

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    Fox News channel aired a conversation with Archbishop Ramzi while he was in Zio D.C., and I tried but failed to access a “link” to the televised segment.
     
    Hey, Chuck. No luck. I must say, though, I've tried searching for other videos on YouTube and they are no longer there. A good example is the video where someone queries Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky about Turkisk spies. Sibel Edmonds brought to this story to our attention in her sworn deposition. She indicated that the Turks were very keen on doing business with Jan's husband and to get him to do their bidding they decided to get to her. They somehow discovered (my hunch is secret MOU b/w US and Izzies) that Jan, although married with children, had a fondness for other females. Edmonds says Turkish spies set up a sting operation to video the event in a home. When a journalist approached Jan about the veracity of this story, she immediately responded "pure fantasy." I once posted this video on UR, but can no longer find it online.
    , @jacques sheete

    When you can, please consider viewing my comment, # 322, which was in response to “renfro’s” extraordinary knowledgeable comment to the foolish Mercer article that you have provided a link.
     
    I dunnat this AM.

    As for the two clowns you mentioned as MIA, I suspect that Hasbara Central took 'em off the case since they proved to be useless idiots. What a blessed relief! Nice to see the Dizzard of Blahs pretty much neutered too.
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  196. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    Hi Jacques,

    Strange how the weird Maven Shama and Little iffen-iffen are M.I.A. " both here and on the worthless Mercer article.

    When you can, please consider viewing my comment, # 322, which was in response to "renfro's" extraordinary knowledgeable comment to the foolish Mercer article that you have provided a link.

    F.Y.I., soon after President "Bomespur" announced intent to move ZUS Embassy to Jerusalem, he met with Palestinian Orthodox Archbishop Ramzi R. Musallam in order to discuss the Trump administration's provocatively explosive decision.

    Fox News channel aired a conversation with Archbishop Ramzi while he was in Zio D.C., and I tried but failed to access a "link" to the televised segment.

    Subsequently, if Research Specialist geokat62 is continuing to look at this article-comment thread, I appeal to him for help getting access
    to the elusive foxy-Fox News segment.

    Thanks Jacques!

    Post-scriptum: Today is Lent' s 2nd Sunday, commentating the Sunday of the Paralytic, Matthew 6:14. Is it time for worldwide people to help the paralyzed Palestinians to pick up their cross and walk united in the Orthodox, "True Faith"?

    Fox News channel aired a conversation with Archbishop Ramzi while he was in Zio D.C., and I tried but failed to access a “link” to the televised segment.

    Hey, Chuck. No luck. I must say, though, I’ve tried searching for other videos on YouTube and they are no longer there. A good example is the video where someone queries Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky about Turkisk spies. Sibel Edmonds brought to this story to our attention in her sworn deposition. She indicated that the Turks were very keen on doing business with Jan’s husband and to get him to do their bidding they decided to get to her. They somehow discovered (my hunch is secret MOU b/w US and Izzies) that Jan, although married with children, had a fondness for other females. Edmonds says Turkish spies set up a sting operation to video the event in a home. When a journalist approached Jan about the veracity of this story, she immediately responded “pure fantasy.” I once posted this video on UR, but can no longer find it online.

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    Thank you for making a strong attempt, geokat!

    There is so much stymying (past) event-data which the unaccountable Zionists allow to energe into public attention.

    But then there's a blackout on what Sibel Edmonds conveyed about "someone" who interrogated Congresswoman Jan Schakowski about Turkish spies and later while under pressure, retreated and said, "it's all fantasy."

    If you ever find time, please consider reading John Le Carre's fiction-novel, "The Little Drummer Girl." Perhaps like in Jan' s case, I too have a fondness for females, and after reading the page-turner, I developed a weird fondness for Le Carre's "Charlie" a young actress who was forced by Israeli intelligence officers to pursue an extremely talented & elusive Palestinian terrorist leader.

    So on frequent occasions, I see where it's a wise habit (especially for dumb goyim like me) to understand what, in particular, the intimidated Congresswoman labeled "fantasy" and it's distinction from unspoken (unspeakable!) fact.

    Thanks Brother geo! You have a "code" similar to a Wodehouse novel's very comical lead-(male) character whose motto it was," to never let down a friend."
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  197. @geokat62

    Fox News channel aired a conversation with Archbishop Ramzi while he was in Zio D.C., and I tried but failed to access a “link” to the televised segment.
     
    Hey, Chuck. No luck. I must say, though, I've tried searching for other videos on YouTube and they are no longer there. A good example is the video where someone queries Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky about Turkisk spies. Sibel Edmonds brought to this story to our attention in her sworn deposition. She indicated that the Turks were very keen on doing business with Jan's husband and to get him to do their bidding they decided to get to her. They somehow discovered (my hunch is secret MOU b/w US and Izzies) that Jan, although married with children, had a fondness for other females. Edmonds says Turkish spies set up a sting operation to video the event in a home. When a journalist approached Jan about the veracity of this story, she immediately responded "pure fantasy." I once posted this video on UR, but can no longer find it online.

    Thank you for making a strong attempt, geokat!

    There is so much stymying (past) event-data which the unaccountable Zionists allow to energe into public attention.

    But then there’s a blackout on what Sibel Edmonds conveyed about “someone” who interrogated Congresswoman Jan Schakowski about Turkish spies and later while under pressure, retreated and said, “it’s all fantasy.”

    If you ever find time, please consider reading John Le Carre’s fiction-novel, “The Little Drummer Girl.” Perhaps like in Jan’ s case, I too have a fondness for females, and after reading the page-turner, I developed a weird fondness for Le Carre’s “Charlie” a young actress who was forced by Israeli intelligence officers to pursue an extremely talented & elusive Palestinian terrorist leader.

    So on frequent occasions, I see where it’s a wise habit (especially for dumb goyim like me) to understand what, in particular, the intimidated Congresswoman labeled “fantasy” and it’s distinction from unspoken (unspeakable!) fact.

    Thanks Brother geo! You have a “code” similar to a Wodehouse novel’s very comical lead-(male) character whose motto it was,” to never let down a friend.”

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  198. @ChuckOrloski
    Hi Jacques,

    Strange how the weird Maven Shama and Little iffen-iffen are M.I.A. " both here and on the worthless Mercer article.

    When you can, please consider viewing my comment, # 322, which was in response to "renfro's" extraordinary knowledgeable comment to the foolish Mercer article that you have provided a link.

    F.Y.I., soon after President "Bomespur" announced intent to move ZUS Embassy to Jerusalem, he met with Palestinian Orthodox Archbishop Ramzi R. Musallam in order to discuss the Trump administration's provocatively explosive decision.

    Fox News channel aired a conversation with Archbishop Ramzi while he was in Zio D.C., and I tried but failed to access a "link" to the televised segment.

    Subsequently, if Research Specialist geokat62 is continuing to look at this article-comment thread, I appeal to him for help getting access
    to the elusive foxy-Fox News segment.

    Thanks Jacques!

    Post-scriptum: Today is Lent' s 2nd Sunday, commentating the Sunday of the Paralytic, Matthew 6:14. Is it time for worldwide people to help the paralyzed Palestinians to pick up their cross and walk united in the Orthodox, "True Faith"?

    When you can, please consider viewing my comment, # 322, which was in response to “renfro’s” extraordinary knowledgeable comment to the foolish Mercer article that you have provided a link.

    I dunnat this AM.

    As for the two clowns you mentioned as MIA, I suspect that Hasbara Central took ‘em off the case since they proved to be useless idiots. What a blessed relief! Nice to see the Dizzard of Blahs pretty much neutered too.

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  199. Speaking frankly and with deep respect for Phil Giraldi, the title of his article, “Russiagate suddenly becomes bigger” has suddenly suggested something bigger & uglier than I had managed to initially grasp.

    Following is what I see happenin’.

    American citizens take reasoned pride in legally established “Right to Know” (Sunshine) laws as to their having exact awareness of what their elected politicians and government does.

    A sunny ideal to keep US government financially sound, good ole American clean & honest, eh?

    Am sincerely saddened to report how elite US Zionist moneychangers have toppled “Right to Know” from off of the Fed Temple Casino table.

    Consequently, no Savior around for Housecleaning duty, so issues vital to large Israeli interests leave dumb goyim information-consumers with a take-it-or-leave-it “Right to Know” option as to what they essentially need to know about, i.e., “Russiagate,” but are systemstivally prohibited from having such knowledge.

    Safeguarding political knowledge in today’s America reminds me of what profit-oriented cigarette companies were required to mark on their product packages: “The Surgeon General warns that smoking is hazardous to health.” Partaking in Right-to-Know activism should be now labeled, “Warning: A desire to excessively know certain things is hazardous to Homeland health.”

    Selah, The old Rolling Stones song lyric, remixed for the Mueller spectacle, February, 2018: “You can only get what we want.”

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    Safeguarding “Right to Know” .... along with Right to Speak .... has a better chance of broad-based traction than all the 'Zionists run our gov't." not to mention "Israel did 911." The secrecy and the censorship is compounding exponentially.

    YouTube has terminated the If Americans Knew YouTube channel

    YouTube has suddenly terminated the If Americans Knew YouTube channel.

    The first indication of a problem was an email from YouTube three days ago that said:

    “Your video ‘Ahmad Nasser Jarrar’ was flagged for review. Upon review, we’ve determined that it violates our guidelines. We’ve removed it from YouTube and assigned a Community Guidelines strike, or temporary penalty, to your account.”


    You can view this video here. As you can see, it in no way violates YouTube guidelines.

    Then yesterday YouTube suddenly terminated our entire channel. This was done without any additional warning or emails, and despite the fact that none of our videos violate its guidelines. Many of these videos can be seen here.

    As you will see, our videos provide factual information about Israel-Palestine. The Jarrar video was part of our series of short videos to make Palestinian victims, usually ignored by US media, real to Americans.

    Of course, in many ways YouTube’s action is no surprise. Google, in its capacity as the operator of YouTube, has been working closely with Israel to censor content the Israeli government dislikes.

    The Israeli Ministry of Justice recently said that its cyber unit handled 2,241 cases of online content and succeeded in getting 70 percent of it removed.

    We will, of course, appeal YouTube’s decision, which violates YouTube’s own claimed principles and that prevents YouTube viewers from learning significant information about Israel-Palestine. We hope that an additional review will reverse this initial, inappropriate decision.


    We will also post all our videos to alternative video hosting platforms. Hopefully these will not censor this crucial information. This will be a test of the degree to which Internet companies filter information on Palestine.

    We also urge others to download our videos and post them widely. The more places these videos are available, the less their information can be concealed from the public.

    The US gives Israel $10 million per day. When Americans learn how Israel uses this money, we will all demand that this expenditure cease, as well as US diplomatic cover for Israeli crimes. To prevent this outcome, Israel and its partisans are working overtime to suppress many essential facts.

    By working together, we can and will overcome this censorship. Thank you for anything you can do to help these videos reach as many people as possible!

    (Some of the videos are also here, where we will also add the rest.)

    - Alison Weir
     
    (IDK if the "here" links will function. This was taken from an email.)
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  200. RobinG says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    Speaking frankly and with deep respect for Phil Giraldi, the title of his article, "Russiagate suddenly becomes bigger" has suddenly suggested something bigger & uglier than I had managed to initially grasp.

    Following is what I see happenin'.

    American citizens take reasoned pride in legally established "Right to Know" (Sunshine) laws as to their having exact awareness of what their elected politicians and government does.

    A sunny ideal to keep US government financially sound, good ole American clean & honest, eh?

    Am sincerely saddened to report how elite US Zionist moneychangers have toppled "Right to Know" from off of the Fed Temple Casino table.

    Consequently, no Savior around for Housecleaning duty, so issues vital to large Israeli interests leave dumb goyim information-consumers with a take-it-or-leave-it "Right to Know" option as to what they essentially need to know about, i.e., "Russiagate," but are systemstivally prohibited from having such knowledge.

    Safeguarding political knowledge in today's America reminds me of what profit-oriented cigarette companies were required to mark on their product packages: "The Surgeon General warns that smoking is hazardous to health." Partaking in Right-to-Know activism should be now labeled, "Warning: A desire to excessively know certain things is hazardous to Homeland health."

    Selah, The old Rolling Stones song lyric, remixed for the Mueller spectacle, February, 2018: "You can only get what we want."

    Safeguarding “Right to Know” …. along with Right to Speak …. has a better chance of broad-based traction than all the ‘Zionists run our gov’t.” not to mention “Israel did 911.” The secrecy and the censorship is compounding exponentially.

    YouTube has terminated the If Americans Knew YouTube channel

    YouTube has suddenly terminated the If Americans Knew YouTube channel.

    The first indication of a problem was an email from YouTube three days ago that said:

    “Your video ‘Ahmad Nasser Jarrar’ was flagged for review. Upon review, we’ve determined that it violates our guidelines. We’ve removed it from YouTube and assigned a Community Guidelines strike, or temporary penalty, to your account.”

    You can view this video here. As you can see, it in no way violates YouTube guidelines.

    Then yesterday YouTube suddenly terminated our entire channel. This was done without any additional warning or emails, and despite the fact that none of our videos violate its guidelines. Many of these videos can be seen here.

    As you will see, our videos provide factual information about Israel-Palestine. The Jarrar video was part of our series of short videos to make Palestinian victims, usually ignored by US media, real to Americans.

    Of course, in many ways YouTube’s action is no surprise. Google, in its capacity as the operator of YouTube, has been working closely with Israel to censor content the Israeli government dislikes.

    The Israeli Ministry of Justice recently said that its cyber unit handled 2,241 cases of online content and succeeded in getting 70 percent of it removed.

    We will, of course, appeal YouTube’s decision, which violates YouTube’s own claimed principles and that prevents YouTube viewers from learning significant information about Israel-Palestine. We hope that an additional review will reverse this initial, inappropriate decision.

    We will also post all our videos to alternative video hosting platforms. Hopefully these will not censor this crucial information. This will be a test of the degree to which Internet companies filter information on Palestine.

    We also urge others to download our videos and post them widely. The more places these videos are available, the less their information can be concealed from the public.

    The US gives Israel $10 million per day. When Americans learn how Israel uses this money, we will all demand that this expenditure cease, as well as US diplomatic cover for Israeli crimes. To prevent this outcome, Israel and its partisans are working overtime to suppress many essential facts.

    By working together, we can and will overcome this censorship. Thank you for anything you can do to help these videos reach as many people as possible!

    (Some of the videos are also here, where we will also add the rest.)

    - Alison Weir

    (IDK if the “here” links will function. This was taken from an email.)

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    Alison Weir is a true hero, and gatekeepers like Mondoweiss and JVP have been avoiding her like the plague. Many of us do what we can to publicize her work as far and as wide as practical. While the youtube censorship is a setback, each such event actually awakens more Americans to what is going on in our nation and shines the spotlight on the emperor with no clothes.

    It is darkest before dawn...
    (yeah, I know that is not accurate, but I believe that dawn is imminent, nonetheless).

    , @ChuckOrloski
    Hi RobinG,

    I wrote comment # 199 as a warning that there is a majority of Russiagate information including a nefarious agenda that's withheld (by US Zionists) from reaching public knowledge.

    I greatly appreciated both your words & those of Alison Weir which wisely & plain spokenly warned about the fact that, "The secrecy and the censorship is compounding exponentially."

    Thanks very much, RobinG! It's a hard job, but I prefer not getting duped.
    , @annamaria
    Wiki:
    “The day before the crash, Hastings indicated that he believed he was being investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. In an email to colleagues, which was copied to and released by Hastings’ friend, Army Staff Sergeant Joe Biggs, Hastings said that he was “onto a big story”, that he needed to “go off the radar”, and that the FBI might interview them.
    WikiLeaks announced that Hastings had also contacted Jennifer Robinson, one of its lawyers, a few hours prior to the crash, and the LA Weekly reported that he was preparing new reports on the CIA at the time of his death. His widow Elise Jordan said his final story was a profile of CIA Director John O. Brennan.
    The FBI released a statement denying that Hastings was being investigated, at least not by their agency. This statement was incorrect as FBI had opened a file on Hastings as early as 2012 (see FBI files below). Furthermore, on the day of the crash Hastings visited his neighbor Jordanna Thigpen’s apartment after midnight and urgently asked to borrow her Volvo, saying he was afraid to drive his own car. However, Thigpen declined.
    Former U.S. National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism Richard A. Clarke said that what is known about the crash is “consistent with a car cyber attack.” He was quoted as saying: “There is reason to believe that intelligence agencies for major powers — including the United States — know how to remotely seize control of a car. So if there were a cyber attack on [Hastings’] car — and I’m not saying there was, I think whoever did it would probably get away with it.”
    -- What was John Brennan so afraid of?
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  201. @RobinG
    Safeguarding “Right to Know” .... along with Right to Speak .... has a better chance of broad-based traction than all the 'Zionists run our gov't." not to mention "Israel did 911." The secrecy and the censorship is compounding exponentially.

    YouTube has terminated the If Americans Knew YouTube channel

    YouTube has suddenly terminated the If Americans Knew YouTube channel.

    The first indication of a problem was an email from YouTube three days ago that said:

    “Your video ‘Ahmad Nasser Jarrar’ was flagged for review. Upon review, we’ve determined that it violates our guidelines. We’ve removed it from YouTube and assigned a Community Guidelines strike, or temporary penalty, to your account.”


    You can view this video here. As you can see, it in no way violates YouTube guidelines.

    Then yesterday YouTube suddenly terminated our entire channel. This was done without any additional warning or emails, and despite the fact that none of our videos violate its guidelines. Many of these videos can be seen here.

    As you will see, our videos provide factual information about Israel-Palestine. The Jarrar video was part of our series of short videos to make Palestinian victims, usually ignored by US media, real to Americans.

    Of course, in many ways YouTube’s action is no surprise. Google, in its capacity as the operator of YouTube, has been working closely with Israel to censor content the Israeli government dislikes.

    The Israeli Ministry of Justice recently said that its cyber unit handled 2,241 cases of online content and succeeded in getting 70 percent of it removed.

    We will, of course, appeal YouTube’s decision, which violates YouTube’s own claimed principles and that prevents YouTube viewers from learning significant information about Israel-Palestine. We hope that an additional review will reverse this initial, inappropriate decision.


    We will also post all our videos to alternative video hosting platforms. Hopefully these will not censor this crucial information. This will be a test of the degree to which Internet companies filter information on Palestine.

    We also urge others to download our videos and post them widely. The more places these videos are available, the less their information can be concealed from the public.

    The US gives Israel $10 million per day. When Americans learn how Israel uses this money, we will all demand that this expenditure cease, as well as US diplomatic cover for Israeli crimes. To prevent this outcome, Israel and its partisans are working overtime to suppress many essential facts.

    By working together, we can and will overcome this censorship. Thank you for anything you can do to help these videos reach as many people as possible!

    (Some of the videos are also here, where we will also add the rest.)

    - Alison Weir
     
    (IDK if the "here" links will function. This was taken from an email.)

    Alison Weir is a true hero, and gatekeepers like Mondoweiss and JVP have been avoiding her like the plague. Many of us do what we can to publicize her work as far and as wide as practical. While the youtube censorship is a setback, each such event actually awakens more Americans to what is going on in our nation and shines the spotlight on the emperor with no clothes.

    It is darkest before dawn…
    (yeah, I know that is not accurate, but I believe that dawn is imminent, nonetheless).

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    Weren't you pondering (again) an anti-war rally? FWIW, plans are in motion. However, this call to action is enveloped in anti-Trumpism. One might say that this is just savvy use of the political climate to mobilize the (Pussies) crowd. We'll see

    Commit to Mobilize Against a Trump Military Parade .
    November 11, 2018
    https://actionnetwork.org/forms/organizational-commitment-to-mobilize-against-a-trump-military-parade?link_id=2&can_id=19e6752b1f7957a48204dfa354f52137&source=email-world-beyond-war-news-and-action-armistice-day&email_referrer=email_307083&email_subject=world-beyond-war-news-and-action-armistice-day

    Please note (especially Geo) the lead time needed, even for David Swanson who already has a huge base of activists and orgs. He's been building his World Beyond War network for years, and (although some accuse him of being a foundation-funded gatekeeper), his 'brand' as peace activist for decades.

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  202. @RobinG
    Safeguarding “Right to Know” .... along with Right to Speak .... has a better chance of broad-based traction than all the 'Zionists run our gov't." not to mention "Israel did 911." The secrecy and the censorship is compounding exponentially.

    YouTube has terminated the If Americans Knew YouTube channel

    YouTube has suddenly terminated the If Americans Knew YouTube channel.

    The first indication of a problem was an email from YouTube three days ago that said:

    “Your video ‘Ahmad Nasser Jarrar’ was flagged for review. Upon review, we’ve determined that it violates our guidelines. We’ve removed it from YouTube and assigned a Community Guidelines strike, or temporary penalty, to your account.”


    You can view this video here. As you can see, it in no way violates YouTube guidelines.

    Then yesterday YouTube suddenly terminated our entire channel. This was done without any additional warning or emails, and despite the fact that none of our videos violate its guidelines. Many of these videos can be seen here.

    As you will see, our videos provide factual information about Israel-Palestine. The Jarrar video was part of our series of short videos to make Palestinian victims, usually ignored by US media, real to Americans.

    Of course, in many ways YouTube’s action is no surprise. Google, in its capacity as the operator of YouTube, has been working closely with Israel to censor content the Israeli government dislikes.

    The Israeli Ministry of Justice recently said that its cyber unit handled 2,241 cases of online content and succeeded in getting 70 percent of it removed.

    We will, of course, appeal YouTube’s decision, which violates YouTube’s own claimed principles and that prevents YouTube viewers from learning significant information about Israel-Palestine. We hope that an additional review will reverse this initial, inappropriate decision.


    We will also post all our videos to alternative video hosting platforms. Hopefully these will not censor this crucial information. This will be a test of the degree to which Internet companies filter information on Palestine.

    We also urge others to download our videos and post them widely. The more places these videos are available, the less their information can be concealed from the public.

    The US gives Israel $10 million per day. When Americans learn how Israel uses this money, we will all demand that this expenditure cease, as well as US diplomatic cover for Israeli crimes. To prevent this outcome, Israel and its partisans are working overtime to suppress many essential facts.

    By working together, we can and will overcome this censorship. Thank you for anything you can do to help these videos reach as many people as possible!

    (Some of the videos are also here, where we will also add the rest.)

    - Alison Weir
     
    (IDK if the "here" links will function. This was taken from an email.)

    Hi RobinG,

    I wrote comment # 199 as a warning that there is a majority of Russiagate information including a nefarious agenda that’s withheld (by US Zionists) from reaching public knowledge.

    I greatly appreciated both your words & those of Alison Weir which wisely & plain spokenly warned about the fact that, “The secrecy and the censorship is compounding exponentially.”

    Thanks very much, RobinG! It’s a hard job, but I prefer not getting duped.

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    It’s a hard job, but I prefer not getting duped.
     
    Hey, Chuck. I think you just put your finger on the most accurate definition of an antisemite = someone who prefers not to be duped
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  203. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    Hi RobinG,

    I wrote comment # 199 as a warning that there is a majority of Russiagate information including a nefarious agenda that's withheld (by US Zionists) from reaching public knowledge.

    I greatly appreciated both your words & those of Alison Weir which wisely & plain spokenly warned about the fact that, "The secrecy and the censorship is compounding exponentially."

    Thanks very much, RobinG! It's a hard job, but I prefer not getting duped.

    It’s a hard job, but I prefer not getting duped.

    Hey, Chuck. I think you just put your finger on the most accurate definition of an antisemite = someone who prefers not to be duped

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    Hi geokat,

    Thank you! I chuckled at first but maybe I did invent an "accurate definition of anti-semitism."
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  204. @geokat62

    It’s a hard job, but I prefer not getting duped.
     
    Hey, Chuck. I think you just put your finger on the most accurate definition of an antisemite = someone who prefers not to be duped

    Hi geokat,

    Thank you! I chuckled at first but maybe I did invent an “accurate definition of anti-semitism.”

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  205. Brave Congressman Devin Nunez just pronounced the Media “dead.”

    (Zigh)

    There will be no official (truthful) announcement on the C.O.D.

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  206. RobinG says:
    @Cloak And Dagger
    Alison Weir is a true hero, and gatekeepers like Mondoweiss and JVP have been avoiding her like the plague. Many of us do what we can to publicize her work as far and as wide as practical. While the youtube censorship is a setback, each such event actually awakens more Americans to what is going on in our nation and shines the spotlight on the emperor with no clothes.

    It is darkest before dawn...
    (yeah, I know that is not accurate, but I believe that dawn is imminent, nonetheless).

    Weren’t you pondering (again) an anti-war rally? FWIW, plans are in motion. However, this call to action is enveloped in anti-Trumpism. One might say that this is just savvy use of the political climate to mobilize the (Pussies) crowd. We’ll see

    Commit to Mobilize Against a Trump Military Parade .
    November 11, 2018

    https://actionnetwork.org/forms/organizational-commitment-to-mobilize-against-a-trump-military-parade?link_id=2&can_id=19e6752b1f7957a48204dfa354f52137&source=email-world-beyond-war-news-and-action-armistice-day&email_referrer=email_307083&email_subject=world-beyond-war-news-and-action-armistice-day

    Please note (especially Geo) the lead time needed, even for David Swanson who already has a huge base of activists and orgs. He’s been building his World Beyond War network for years, and (although some accuse him of being a foundation-funded gatekeeper), his ‘brand’ as peace activist for decades.

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    Thanks for the link Robin. I am definitely against overt displays of militarism, and if protesting against it is enveloped in (unnecessary) anti-Trumpism, then so be it. It reminds me of all the people who didn't vote for Ron Paul because of his domestic policies, despite the fact that his foreign policies were superb and should have overridden all other objections.

    Trump's pronouncement on Friday is cause for hope:

    President Donald Trump appeared to dash the hopes of interventionists and contradict his own administration officials, by declaring that US troops’ mission in Syria is limited to defeating ISIS and doesn’t include regime change.

    “We’re there for one reason: to get ISIS and get rid of ISIS, and to go home,” Trump said on Friday, during a joint press conference with Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull at the White House. “We’re not there for any other reason and we’ve largely accomplished our goal.”


    While Trump did not hesitate to call the Syrian government “a humanitarian disgrace,” criticizing Russia and Iran for their involvement, his comments implied the US military also had no business in Syria beyond the ‘ultimate’ goal of defeating Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL).
     
    It made me wonder if warmonger Nimrata Haley had been censured:


    Trump’s position might be news to his Cabinet officials, however. US envoy to the UN, Nikki Haley, who has been an outspoken advocate of regime change in Syria, is currently championing a Security Council resolution proposing an emergency ceasefire in the area, following the militants’ claims of civilian casualties and atrocities uncritically echoed in Western media.
     
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  207. @RobinG
    Weren't you pondering (again) an anti-war rally? FWIW, plans are in motion. However, this call to action is enveloped in anti-Trumpism. One might say that this is just savvy use of the political climate to mobilize the (Pussies) crowd. We'll see

    Commit to Mobilize Against a Trump Military Parade .
    November 11, 2018
    https://actionnetwork.org/forms/organizational-commitment-to-mobilize-against-a-trump-military-parade?link_id=2&can_id=19e6752b1f7957a48204dfa354f52137&source=email-world-beyond-war-news-and-action-armistice-day&email_referrer=email_307083&email_subject=world-beyond-war-news-and-action-armistice-day

    Please note (especially Geo) the lead time needed, even for David Swanson who already has a huge base of activists and orgs. He's been building his World Beyond War network for years, and (although some accuse him of being a foundation-funded gatekeeper), his 'brand' as peace activist for decades.

    Thanks for the link Robin. I am definitely against overt displays of militarism, and if protesting against it is enveloped in (unnecessary) anti-Trumpism, then so be it. It reminds me of all the people who didn’t vote for Ron Paul because of his domestic policies, despite the fact that his foreign policies were superb and should have overridden all other objections.

    Trump’s pronouncement on Friday is cause for hope:

    President Donald Trump appeared to dash the hopes of interventionists and contradict his own administration officials, by declaring that US troops’ mission in Syria is limited to defeating ISIS and doesn’t include regime change.

    “We’re there for one reason: to get ISIS and get rid of ISIS, and to go home,” Trump said on Friday, during a joint press conference with Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull at the White House. “We’re not there for any other reason and we’ve largely accomplished our goal.”

    While Trump did not hesitate to call the Syrian government “a humanitarian disgrace,” criticizing Russia and Iran for their involvement, his comments implied the US military also had no business in Syria beyond the ‘ultimate’ goal of defeating Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL).

    It made me wonder if warmonger Nimrata Haley had been censured:

    Trump’s position might be news to his Cabinet officials, however. US envoy to the UN, Nikki Haley, who has been an outspoken advocate of regime change in Syria, is currently championing a Security Council resolution proposing an emergency ceasefire in the area, following the militants’ claims of civilian casualties and atrocities uncritically echoed in Western media.

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    "... if protesting against it [militarism] is enveloped in (unnecessary) anti-Trumpism, then so be it." Well, there you go.

    Excellent quote from Trump, and we must try to hold him to it. But remember, "Their real goals are different from their stated goals." (I'm quoting Sam Husseini.)
    , @RobinG
    And before that, there's this, October 20/21.

    Women's March on the Pentagon (Give a Sh!t)
    https://www.facebook.com/events/184236778838247/?active_tab=discussion

    Men are welcome, and Cindy Sheehan, the organizer of this, correctly points out the failings of the snowflake Pussy Warriors and their male supporters.
    Cindy Sheehan and the Women’s March on the Pentagon: A Movement, Not Just a Protest
    "Sheehan was taken aback by how some prominent organizers of the recent Women’s March were unwilling to express anti-war positions and argued for excluding the issue of peace entirely from the event and movement as a whole."
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/cindy-sheehan-and-the-womens-march-on-the-pentagon-a-movement-not-just-a-protest/237835/
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  208. RobinG says:
    @Cloak And Dagger
    Thanks for the link Robin. I am definitely against overt displays of militarism, and if protesting against it is enveloped in (unnecessary) anti-Trumpism, then so be it. It reminds me of all the people who didn't vote for Ron Paul because of his domestic policies, despite the fact that his foreign policies were superb and should have overridden all other objections.

    Trump's pronouncement on Friday is cause for hope:

    President Donald Trump appeared to dash the hopes of interventionists and contradict his own administration officials, by declaring that US troops’ mission in Syria is limited to defeating ISIS and doesn’t include regime change.

    “We’re there for one reason: to get ISIS and get rid of ISIS, and to go home,” Trump said on Friday, during a joint press conference with Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull at the White House. “We’re not there for any other reason and we’ve largely accomplished our goal.”


    While Trump did not hesitate to call the Syrian government “a humanitarian disgrace,” criticizing Russia and Iran for their involvement, his comments implied the US military also had no business in Syria beyond the ‘ultimate’ goal of defeating Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL).
     
    It made me wonder if warmonger Nimrata Haley had been censured:


    Trump’s position might be news to his Cabinet officials, however. US envoy to the UN, Nikki Haley, who has been an outspoken advocate of regime change in Syria, is currently championing a Security Council resolution proposing an emergency ceasefire in the area, following the militants’ claims of civilian casualties and atrocities uncritically echoed in Western media.
     

    “… if protesting against it [militarism] is enveloped in (unnecessary) anti-Trumpism, then so be it.” Well, there you go.

    Excellent quote from Trump, and we must try to hold him to it. But remember, “Their real goals are different from their stated goals.” (I’m quoting Sam Husseini.)

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    Hi RobinG & geokat and other diehard commenters who still holding out on this deserted article thread:

    No one likes imposition of homework but if possible, please consider reading the article-excerpt (pasted below) written by Steve Robertson and featured in today's Veterans Today (V.T.) postings. Topic is critical stuff, social manipulation methodologies.

    (Note: I naturally shy away from erratically burning issues that, by design, convulses & distracts restless ZUS subjects; i.e. the Goyim monkey-chases-Pussy Riot-tail, "Russiagate" affair. THANK YOU!)

    "In Part III of the articles entitled “TACTICAL DIVERSIONS AND FALSE FLAG DECEPTIONS” I exposed that these methodologies of social manipulation represent the magician’s sleight of hand. In other words, the Deep State or NWO uses these strategies to focus the attention of the public towards a certain engineered occurrence whilst with the other perceptional hand, the mass media manipulates the facts in order to generate a particular bias in societal perception.

    A False Flag Distraction works like and harnesses the elements of a tactical diversion however its primary purpose is to divert attention away from what a true perpetrator has done (or is about to do) so as to blame a negative occurrence onto another group of people or entity. The real intent of the False Flag Distraction (or operation) is to psychologically and/or politically disempower the reality of perception so as to establish a negative belief or narrative about a person, occurrence, organization, government or country as having done something wrong, bad or evil. Ultimately, the intent of this scheme is to justify, within the group-mind of a targeted loyal and patriotic group, a rationalized thought process that leads to specific retaliatory action toward this newly defined enemy.

    “In order to bring a nation to support the burdens of maintaining great military establishments, it is necessary to create an emotional state akin to war psychology. There must be the portrayal of external menace.” – John Foster Dulles, Secretary of State during the Eisenhower administration. (Super Patriotism, Michael Parenti, p93) (1888 – 1959)

    In 2008 Captain Eric H. May, a former Army military intelligence and public affairs officer was quoted: “The easiest way to carry out a false flag attack is by setting up a military exercise that simulates the very attack you want to carry out … this is exactly how government perpetrators in the US and UK handled the 9/11 and 7/7 “terror” attacks, which were in reality government attacks blamed on ‘terrorists’… The “next 9/11′′ — constantly promised by officials and the media — is likely to be carried out under the guise of future military exercises.”

    “Throughout the 1990s both the U.S. oil industry and the Pentagon had contributed to the consensus that America would need full-spectrum dominance to guarantee access to oil and other resources in the rest of the world. This program would require massive expenditures, perhaps as much as a trillion dollars, and this could not be expected from Congress – except in response to an attack as massive and frightening as Pearl Harbor. With respect to the events of 9/11 it is clear that the Bush Administration’s settled goal of invading Iraq depended on the attack. What we have been witnessing, to quote the Oslo researcher Ola Tunander is “the use of terrorism to construct world order.” – Peter Dale Scott, considered the Father of ‘Deep Politics’, Berkley Professor, Poet and former Diplomat.

    In 2015, David Steele, the second-highest ranking civilian in the U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence and a former CIA clandestine services officer disclosed; “Most terrorists are false flag terrorists, or are created by our own security services. In the United States, every single terrorist incident we have had has been a false flag, or has been an informant pushed on by the FBI. In fact, we now have citizens taking out restraining orders against FBI informants that are trying to incite terrorism. We’ve become a lunatic asylum.”

    In part IV of the series entitled “BOOGIE MAN TERRORISTS” I examined the many names by which Boogie Man Terrorists have been labeled; “The Others”, “Savages,” ”Enemies”(Latin meaning “not friend”), “Evil” (identifying people as believing in and/or worshiping a “False God”), “Terrorists,” or any bigoted or derogatory name used to paint another person or entity in a negative light in order to enroll the public in justifiably murdering these people in war. This psychological tactic of negatively labeling another person or group of people as dangerously different has long been the weapon of choice by the wealthy, religious leaders and oligarch’s who control government, mass media and/or major industries.

    The authoritative power of naming and controlling the story narrative is the lever of influence that manipulates “Group Thought” so as to herd the masses (the pawns of given society who naively support and/or bend to the rule of the elite who define themselves as ordained and righteous leaders), to take up violent or military actions against any named “Boogie Man.”

    The Elite’s ability to label “Others or entities” as being defined by evil and then their ability to orchestrate the mass media to continually drumbeat this narrative into the collectively consciousness hides, in plain sight, the primary strategy of deception that is used to enroll and subjugate society into sacrificing their lives, and those of their children, into going to war on behalf of the ruling class and for their personal gain. Ultimately, the end goal of the elite, New World Order (NWO), Khazarian Mafia, Cabal and/or Deep State is to usurp from any sovereign entity (person, government or country) a desired and valued geopolitical chessboard piece as defined by; strategic land territories, water, agriculture territories or produce, precious minerals and/or human labor (slaves). Such actions always result in oppression, military occupation/colonialism, apartheid and genocide.

    The reality of these horrors can ultimately be traced back to the “Doctrine of Discovery” issued by Pope Alexander VI in 1493. This doctrine, in essence, described the protocols by which Christian explorers were to conduct themselves when landing on foreign land/soil. The rules were as follows: 1) if occupied by fellow Christians they were to leave the land in their procession or equitably divide the land. 2) If not occupied by anyone. Dibs it’s yours to claim. 3) If occupied by non- Christians two choices: murder or enslave the people. The Doctrine of Discovery, Manifest Destiny, Colonialism, We’re THE CHOSEN ONES, We found THE WAY… is the implied foundation from which all manner of horrors are justifiably inflicted on “the Others”.

    Today we see how some people, who act like annihilating Alien Invaders and who have the audacity to believe and call themselves ‘The Chosen Ones,’ and refer to “Others” and/or “Gentiles” as “Goyim,” (a term meaning “Cattle”), continue to rationalize the colonization (settlement building) within Palestinian territorial land. With an indifferent distain they treat Palestinian men, women and children with a monstrous cruelty that is likened to how the US once treated the Native Americans and African American Slaves.

    In truth, the 9/11 events ultimately served as a massive PSYOPs and False Flag Operation to camouflage the beginning of the US’s and NWO’s plans to rebrand non-cooperating Middle East countries like Libya, Iraq, Syria and Iran as being defining the new “Axis of Evil.” Coincidently, the leaders of these same countries proclaimed that they were finished and done with being financial slaves to the US Petro dollar system. They also proclaimed to be finished and done with being forced to use and comply with the Rothschild’s Central Banking System. In turn these countries declared that they would create their own sovereign currency and that it would be backed by their country’s own gold supplies. This old “Axis of Evil” branding narrative routine was ultimately used to enroll the US public to support a US lead military operation that would instigate and force regime changes.
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  209. @RobinG
    "... if protesting against it [militarism] is enveloped in (unnecessary) anti-Trumpism, then so be it." Well, there you go.

    Excellent quote from Trump, and we must try to hold him to it. But remember, "Their real goals are different from their stated goals." (I'm quoting Sam Husseini.)

    Hi RobinG & geokat and other diehard commenters who still holding out on this deserted article thread:

    No one likes imposition of homework but if possible, please consider reading the article-excerpt (pasted below) written by Steve Robertson and featured in today’s Veterans Today (V.T.) postings. Topic is critical stuff, social manipulation methodologies.

    (Note: I naturally shy away from erratically burning issues that, by design, convulses & distracts restless ZUS subjects; i.e. the Goyim monkey-chases-Pussy Riot-tail, “Russiagate” affair. THANK YOU!)

    “In Part III of the articles entitled “TACTICAL DIVERSIONS AND FALSE FLAG DECEPTIONS” I exposed that these methodologies of social manipulation represent the magician’s sleight of hand. In other words, the Deep State or NWO uses these strategies to focus the attention of the public towards a certain engineered occurrence whilst with the other perceptional hand, the mass media manipulates the facts in order to generate a particular bias in societal perception.

    A False Flag Distraction works like and harnesses the elements of a tactical diversion however its primary purpose is to divert attention away from what a true perpetrator has done (or is about to do) so as to blame a negative occurrence onto another group of people or entity. The real intent of the False Flag Distraction (or operation) is to psychologically and/or politically disempower the reality of perception so as to establish a negative belief or narrative about a person, occurrence, organization, government or country as having done something wrong, bad or evil. Ultimately, the intent of this scheme is to justify, within the group-mind of a targeted loyal and patriotic group, a rationalized thought process that leads to specific retaliatory action toward this newly defined enemy.

    “In order to bring a nation to support the burdens of maintaining great military establishments, it is necessary to create an emotional state akin to war psychology. There must be the portrayal of external menace.” – John Foster Dulles, Secretary of State during the Eisenhower administration. (Super Patriotism, Michael Parenti, p93) (1888 – 1959)

    In 2008 Captain Eric H. May, a former Army military intelligence and public affairs officer was quoted: “The easiest way to carry out a false flag attack is by setting up a military exercise that simulates the very attack you want to carry out … this is exactly how government perpetrators in the US and UK handled the 9/11 and 7/7 “terror” attacks, which were in reality government attacks blamed on ‘terrorists’… The “next 9/11′′ — constantly promised by officials and the media — is likely to be carried out under the guise of future military exercises.”

    “Throughout the 1990s both the U.S. oil industry and the Pentagon had contributed to the consensus that America would need full-spectrum dominance to guarantee access to oil and other resources in the rest of the world. This program would require massive expenditures, perhaps as much as a trillion dollars, and this could not be expected from Congress – except in response to an attack as massive and frightening as Pearl Harbor. With respect to the events of 9/11 it is clear that the Bush Administration’s settled goal of invading Iraq depended on the attack. What we have been witnessing, to quote the Oslo researcher Ola Tunander is “the use of terrorism to construct world order.” – Peter Dale Scott, considered the Father of ‘Deep Politics’, Berkley Professor, Poet and former Diplomat.

    In 2015, David Steele, the second-highest ranking civilian in the U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence and a former CIA clandestine services officer disclosed; “Most terrorists are false flag terrorists, or are created by our own security services. In the United States, every single terrorist incident we have had has been a false flag, or has been an informant pushed on by the FBI. In fact, we now have citizens taking out restraining orders against FBI informants that are trying to incite terrorism. We’ve become a lunatic asylum.”

    In part IV of the series entitled “BOOGIE MAN TERRORISTS” I examined the many names by which Boogie Man Terrorists have been labeled; “The Others”, “Savages,” ”Enemies”(Latin meaning “not friend”), “Evil” (identifying people as believing in and/or worshiping a “False God”), “Terrorists,” or any bigoted or derogatory name used to paint another person or entity in a negative light in order to enroll the public in justifiably murdering these people in war. This psychological tactic of negatively labeling another person or group of people as dangerously different has long been the weapon of choice by the wealthy, religious leaders and oligarch’s who control government, mass media and/or major industries.

    The authoritative power of naming and controlling the story narrative is the lever of influence that manipulates “Group Thought” so as to herd the masses (the pawns of given society who naively support and/or bend to the rule of the elite who define themselves as ordained and righteous leaders), to take up violent or military actions against any named “Boogie Man.”

    The Elite’s ability to label “Others or entities” as being defined by evil and then their ability to orchestrate the mass media to continually drumbeat this narrative into the collectively consciousness hides, in plain sight, the primary strategy of deception that is used to enroll and subjugate society into sacrificing their lives, and those of their children, into going to war on behalf of the ruling class and for their personal gain. Ultimately, the end goal of the elite, New World Order (NWO), Khazarian Mafia, Cabal and/or Deep State is to usurp from any sovereign entity (person, government or country) a desired and valued geopolitical chessboard piece as defined by; strategic land territories, water, agriculture territories or produce, precious minerals and/or human labor (slaves). Such actions always result in oppression, military occupation/colonialism, apartheid and genocide.

    The reality of these horrors can ultimately be traced back to the “Doctrine of Discovery” issued by Pope Alexander VI in 1493. This doctrine, in essence, described the protocols by which Christian explorers were to conduct themselves when landing on foreign land/soil. The rules were as follows: 1) if occupied by fellow Christians they were to leave the land in their procession or equitably divide the land. 2) If not occupied by anyone. Dibs it’s yours to claim. 3) If occupied by non- Christians two choices: murder or enslave the people. The Doctrine of Discovery, Manifest Destiny, Colonialism, We’re THE CHOSEN ONES, We found THE WAY… is the implied foundation from which all manner of horrors are justifiably inflicted on “the Others”.

    Today we see how some people, who act like annihilating Alien Invaders and who have the audacity to believe and call themselves ‘The Chosen Ones,’ and refer to “Others” and/or “Gentiles” as “Goyim,” (a term meaning “Cattle”), continue to rationalize the colonization (settlement building) within Palestinian territorial land. With an indifferent distain they treat Palestinian men, women and children with a monstrous cruelty that is likened to how the US once treated the Native Americans and African American Slaves.

    In truth, the 9/11 events ultimately served as a massive PSYOPs and False Flag Operation to camouflage the beginning of the US’s and NWO’s plans to rebrand non-cooperating Middle East countries like Libya, Iraq, Syria and Iran as being defining the new “Axis of Evil.” Coincidently, the leaders of these same countries proclaimed that they were finished and done with being financial slaves to the US Petro dollar system. They also proclaimed to be finished and done with being forced to use and comply with the Rothschild’s Central Banking System. In turn these countries declared that they would create their own sovereign currency and that it would be backed by their country’s own gold supplies. This old “Axis of Evil” branding narrative routine was ultimately used to enroll the US public to support a US lead military operation that would instigate and force regime changes.

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  210. annamaria says:
    @RobinG
    Safeguarding “Right to Know” .... along with Right to Speak .... has a better chance of broad-based traction than all the 'Zionists run our gov't." not to mention "Israel did 911." The secrecy and the censorship is compounding exponentially.

    YouTube has terminated the If Americans Knew YouTube channel

    YouTube has suddenly terminated the If Americans Knew YouTube channel.

    The first indication of a problem was an email from YouTube three days ago that said:

    “Your video ‘Ahmad Nasser Jarrar’ was flagged for review. Upon review, we’ve determined that it violates our guidelines. We’ve removed it from YouTube and assigned a Community Guidelines strike, or temporary penalty, to your account.”


    You can view this video here. As you can see, it in no way violates YouTube guidelines.

    Then yesterday YouTube suddenly terminated our entire channel. This was done without any additional warning or emails, and despite the fact that none of our videos violate its guidelines. Many of these videos can be seen here.

    As you will see, our videos provide factual information about Israel-Palestine. The Jarrar video was part of our series of short videos to make Palestinian victims, usually ignored by US media, real to Americans.

    Of course, in many ways YouTube’s action is no surprise. Google, in its capacity as the operator of YouTube, has been working closely with Israel to censor content the Israeli government dislikes.

    The Israeli Ministry of Justice recently said that its cyber unit handled 2,241 cases of online content and succeeded in getting 70 percent of it removed.

    We will, of course, appeal YouTube’s decision, which violates YouTube’s own claimed principles and that prevents YouTube viewers from learning significant information about Israel-Palestine. We hope that an additional review will reverse this initial, inappropriate decision.


    We will also post all our videos to alternative video hosting platforms. Hopefully these will not censor this crucial information. This will be a test of the degree to which Internet companies filter information on Palestine.

    We also urge others to download our videos and post them widely. The more places these videos are available, the less their information can be concealed from the public.

    The US gives Israel $10 million per day. When Americans learn how Israel uses this money, we will all demand that this expenditure cease, as well as US diplomatic cover for Israeli crimes. To prevent this outcome, Israel and its partisans are working overtime to suppress many essential facts.

    By working together, we can and will overcome this censorship. Thank you for anything you can do to help these videos reach as many people as possible!

    (Some of the videos are also here, where we will also add the rest.)

    - Alison Weir
     
    (IDK if the "here" links will function. This was taken from an email.)

    Wiki:
    “The day before the crash, Hastings indicated that he believed he was being investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. In an email to colleagues, which was copied to and released by Hastings’ friend, Army Staff Sergeant Joe Biggs, Hastings said that he was “onto a big story”, that he needed to “go off the radar”, and that the FBI might interview them.
    WikiLeaks announced that Hastings had also contacted Jennifer Robinson, one of its lawyers, a few hours prior to the crash, and the LA Weekly reported that he was preparing new reports on the CIA at the time of his death. His widow Elise Jordan said his final story was a profile of CIA Director John O. Brennan.
    The FBI released a statement denying that Hastings was being investigated, at least not by their agency. This statement was incorrect as FBI had opened a file on Hastings as early as 2012 (see FBI files below). Furthermore, on the day of the crash Hastings visited his neighbor Jordanna Thigpen’s apartment after midnight and urgently asked to borrow her Volvo, saying he was afraid to drive his own car. However, Thigpen declined.
    Former U.S. National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism Richard A. Clarke said that what is known about the crash is “consistent with a car cyber attack.” He was quoted as saying: “There is reason to believe that intelligence agencies for major powers — including the United States — know how to remotely seize control of a car. So if there were a cyber attack on [Hastings’] car — and I’m not saying there was, I think whoever did it would probably get away with it.”
    – What was John Brennan so afraid of?

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  211. RobinG says:
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    Thanks for the link Robin. I am definitely against overt displays of militarism, and if protesting against it is enveloped in (unnecessary) anti-Trumpism, then so be it. It reminds me of all the people who didn't vote for Ron Paul because of his domestic policies, despite the fact that his foreign policies were superb and should have overridden all other objections.

    Trump's pronouncement on Friday is cause for hope:

    President Donald Trump appeared to dash the hopes of interventionists and contradict his own administration officials, by declaring that US troops’ mission in Syria is limited to defeating ISIS and doesn’t include regime change.

    “We’re there for one reason: to get ISIS and get rid of ISIS, and to go home,” Trump said on Friday, during a joint press conference with Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull at the White House. “We’re not there for any other reason and we’ve largely accomplished our goal.”


    While Trump did not hesitate to call the Syrian government “a humanitarian disgrace,” criticizing Russia and Iran for their involvement, his comments implied the US military also had no business in Syria beyond the ‘ultimate’ goal of defeating Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL).
     
    It made me wonder if warmonger Nimrata Haley had been censured:


    Trump’s position might be news to his Cabinet officials, however. US envoy to the UN, Nikki Haley, who has been an outspoken advocate of regime change in Syria, is currently championing a Security Council resolution proposing an emergency ceasefire in the area, following the militants’ claims of civilian casualties and atrocities uncritically echoed in Western media.
     

    And before that, there’s this, October 20/21.

    Women’s March on the Pentagon (Give a Sh!t)

    https://www.facebook.com/events/184236778838247/?active_tab=discussion

    Men are welcome, and Cindy Sheehan, the organizer of this, correctly points out the failings of the snowflake Pussy Warriors and their male supporters.
    Cindy Sheehan and the Women’s March on the Pentagon: A Movement, Not Just a Protest
    “Sheehan was taken aback by how some prominent organizers of the recent Women’s March were unwilling to express anti-war positions and argued for excluding the issue of peace entirely from the event and movement as a whole.”

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/cindy-sheehan-and-the-womens-march-on-the-pentagon-a-movement-not-just-a-protest/237835/

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    Impractical for me to get to the other coast...
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  212. @RobinG
    And before that, there's this, October 20/21.

    Women's March on the Pentagon (Give a Sh!t)
    https://www.facebook.com/events/184236778838247/?active_tab=discussion

    Men are welcome, and Cindy Sheehan, the organizer of this, correctly points out the failings of the snowflake Pussy Warriors and their male supporters.
    Cindy Sheehan and the Women’s March on the Pentagon: A Movement, Not Just a Protest
    "Sheehan was taken aback by how some prominent organizers of the recent Women’s March were unwilling to express anti-war positions and argued for excluding the issue of peace entirely from the event and movement as a whole."
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/cindy-sheehan-and-the-womens-march-on-the-pentagon-a-movement-not-just-a-protest/237835/

    Impractical for me to get to the other coast…

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    Wasn't suggesting.... Just FYI of what's on the horizon. ;)
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  213. RobinG says:
    @Cloak And Dagger
    Impractical for me to get to the other coast...

    Wasn’t suggesting…. Just FYI of what’s on the horizon. ;)

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