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I have a number of times discussed how the U.S. and other governments have legislated and otherwise promoted Jewish and Israeli interests in ways that most people would find unacceptable if they were aware of what exactly has been going on. Here in the United States, special Medicare coverage and immigration status have been granted, often concealed in other legislation, to benefit holocaust survivors and Russian Jews seeking to emigrate. State legislatures and the U.S. Congress have meanwhile been working hard to pass legislation that blocks and even criminalizes the non-violent Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) protests against Israeli behavior while universities have been banning anti-Israel demonstrators and groups on campus because they apparently are offensive to the sensitivities of some Jewish students.

The latest outrage against the First Amendment comes from South Carolina, the home state of the arch-Zionist poseur and United Nations Ambassador extraordinary Nikki Haley. A new hate speech law was inserted in the state’s recently approved annual budget. The legislation borrows from the U.S. State Department definition of anti-Semitism, which proscribes speech that “demonizes” or applies “double standards” to Israel “by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation” as anti-Semitic.

While the State Department definition is a guideline, the South Carolina’s specific inclusion of it in legislation makes explicit that criticism of Israel as hate speech can be subject to criminal penalties. It also is binding on all the states universities and educational institutions.

The law was promoted by Alan Clemmons, a Mormon legislator who has led numerous delegations to Israel and who has been described as “Israel’s biggest supporter in a U.S. state legislature.”

Supporters of the Bill of Rights have been universally opposed to the bill, but pro-Israel groups have praised the initiative and are expecting a “new wave” of legislation all across the United States blocking any criticism of the self-described Jewish State. The Brandeis Center has enthused

“This bill gives South Carolina the tools to protect Jewish students’ and all South Carolina students’ right to a learning environment free of unlawful discrimination. We are hoping this momentous step will result in another national wave to, once and for all, begin defeating rising anti-Semitism.”

Other states will undoubtedly follow the South Carolina lead, so it would appear that any criticism of Israel will become illegal in the public square if the many friends of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu have their way. And they generally do get what they want from the federal level all the way down to the states and local communities, so be prepared.

Israel also is regularly exploiting the American legal system to punish countries that it has defined as its enemies. Its government sponsored lawfare organization called Shurat Hadin has initiated a number of lawsuits in U.S. courts to punish Palestinians and Iranians. Ironically, it is currently seeking to demonstrate that Hamas is committing war crimes in Gaza, where Israel has been using army snipers to kill unarmed demonstrators.

Other lawsuits filed on behalf of mostly Jewish Americans in U.S. courts seeking compensation from Iranians and Palestinians are also pending, with the tribunals in Manhattan particularly prone to being sympathetic to the plaintiffs. Last week, at the Federal Court for the Southern District of Manhattan, Judge George Daniels issued a default judgment relating to his 2011 determination that Iran and Hezbollah materially and directly supported al-Qaeda in the 9/11 attacks and are legally responsible for damages to the hundreds of family members of victims who are named in the case. The judge ordered Iran to pay $6 billion in compensation – “$12,500,000 per spouse, $8,500,000 per parent, $8,500,000 per child, and $4,250,000 per sibling” to the families and estates of the deceased. A 4.96 annual interest rate will also be applied to the amount, starting from September 11, 2001 to the date of the judgement.”

Normally foreign governments have what is referred to as sovereign immunity which prevents their being sued, but that all changed in the U.S. with the passage of the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act (JASTA) of 2016, which permitted individual lawsuits in any federal court involving any government’s alleged participation in international acts of “terrorism.” This has resulted in a series of multi-billion-dollar lawsuits against Iran, the Palestinians and also Saudi Arabia. Many of the lawsuits have Israeli citizens as plaintiffs, suing in American courts.

Though the lawsuit claimed, and Judge Daniels agreed, that Tehran had supported the 9/11 hijackers with training and other assistance, most authorities would question that judgement. Many would consider it to be ludicrous as Iranian Shi’ites were considered to be kill-on-sight heretics by al-Qaeda. The idea that Iran was somehow involved in 9/11 is in reality a ridiculous Israel Lobby contrivance that was first floated in 2015 by ex-CIA Director James Woolsey, a renowned Zionist stooge and conspiracy theorist who is viewed by many as not completely in possession of all his marbles.

Indeed, it is far more plausible that Israel was involved in 9/11 than was Iran. Israel operated a massive spying operation directed against Arabs in the U.S. and several of its intelligence officers were seen in Jersey City to be filming themselves while dancing and cavorting in delight as the twin towers went down, suggesting some prior knowledge.

But, of course, no one would be allowed to sue Israel in an American court. The 9/11 Commission failed to examine the case against Israel even though it allegedly sought to compile a “full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding” the attacks, but it did investigate the possible ties to Iran. It found the only evidence of any Iranian support to consist of certain 9/11 hijackers travelling through Iran on their way to Afghanistan without having their passports stamped.

In his Farewell Address President George Washington warned that

“…a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation. As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot.”

If one believes that deference to the special foreign interest of one powerful and wealthy segment of the population is appropriate in a democracy then I suppose the Jewish/Israeli pander has to be considered acceptable. I happen to believe that, as our first president so clearly articulated, it is not, particularly as much of the concession that Jews are somehow to be treated differently than the rest of the community due to their alleged victimhood contributes to a criticism-free ride for an Israel which is eagerly seeking a new war in the Middle East. It would be a war that the United States would inevitably get pulled into by Israel’s friends in Congress and the media. It would also be catastrophic for all parties involved and it all starts with the belief that Israel should somehow be protected and its enemies punished while also being exempt from being made accountable for its actions.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is www.councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected]

 
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  1. Blah Blah Blah Jewish power cannot be overthrown without deconstructing the ‘Holocau$t’ the myth of the holy 6 trillion. No victory without overthrowing this foundational mother of all lies. Either support the revisionists or shut the fuck up.

  2. Insidious.

    Devious.

    Selfish.

    Unscrupulous.

    Duplicitous.

    Ruthless.

    Diabolical.

    Supremacist.

    (Am I leaving anything out?)

    Ooh, wait.

    Democratic ally.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @Binky
    , @Thorby
  3. It’s more than time to question, it’s time to prosecute. If Alan Clemmons, or any other legislator, has gone to Israel, with any assistance from Israel financial or otherwise, then Clemmons (and others) have taken a bribe. Failure to prosecute, just as failure to enforce current immigration laws, is the road to anarchy.
    As for Judge Daniels, I guess I could cut him some slack, given it’s a default judgement, but that goes out the door if he was the judge that certified the case going forward in the first place. There is no prima facie evidence of Iran’s involvement in 9/11, and therefore, false statements made in the statement of claim are a perversion of justice. A judge is supposed to rule on facts, not conjecture.

  4. Thomm says:

    It is a privilege to see a sophisticated Confuse and Conquer Jew like Ron Unz singlehandedly tie up hundreds if not thousands of White Trashionalists at once.

    Step 1 : Make a website that WNs use (since they can never build anything on their own). Let any and all anti-Semitic slurs stand on the website to make WNs complacent and even keyboard-courageous.
    Step 2 : Recruit the 2-3 intelligent authors that WNs read (Sailer, Derbyshire, etc.) who happen to bad at making money, so that they write for very little renumeration.
    Step 3 : After a few years, start pushing for normalization of Hispanics (even if illegal; especially if illegal).
    Step 4 : Deploy someone like Fred Reed to generate even more confusion, and then someone like Philip Giraldi to get the anti-Israel wing gathered in one place.

    It works…and it is a lesson in asymmetrical attrition warfare by a sophisticated Confuse and Conquer Jew.

    Ron Unz has said about 95% of this site disputes the fact that the real division is black vs non-black. I am among the 5% that agree with him (although I am more conservative than him, since I think there should be only skilled, legal immigration, not unskilled and certainly never illegal).

    Now, here is the thing. Those who talk about Auschwitz, lampshades, and soap never get moderated here, but those who agree with Ron Unz do. He will even get angry with those who agree with him too vocally, even as any and all anti-Israel content is fully welcome.

    Why?

    It is because he thinks it will expose his game of 4D chess from the perception of a 70-IQ WN. But I guarantee that it cannot, since the typical White Trashionalist is far below the IQ threshold where they can observe the many pieces in motion. I can describe Ron’s plan in full detail (and I fully support it), without any risk of the WNs figuring anything out (much less leaving this site).

    I am strongly in favor of what Ron Unz is doing.

  5. Brabantian says: • Website

    75 years ago, people hid Jews to protect them from imprisonment and possible death by European-led jailers

    Now in 2018, people are hiding Europeans to protect them from imprisonment and possible death by Jewish-led jailers

    89-year-old Ursula Haverbeck-Wetzel is right now being hunted by German police at the behest of Jewish groups, because she did not show up at prison a few days ago, to serve a two-year-jail sentence for questioning the official narrative of the Jewish killings in World War II … It is recognised by Jews and others that at her age, the long jailing may kill her

    The ‘International Auschwitz Committee’ says German police should use ‘high pressure’ to find this elderly woman and imprison her, even tho it may kill her

    And yet Jews who speak like this claim they do not understand why people develop antipathy to Jews … It is in fact the International Auschwitz Committee which is ‘inciting anti-semitism’, as they inspire Germans to hide elderly people from Jews ‘like Anne Frank was hidden from Germans’

    However much Ursula Haverbeck might be in error in her historical opinions, this is appalling and shocking treatment of a grandmotherly woman soon to be 90 years of age … sending her very possibly to death for her ideas regarding an era to which she is a living personal witness (Haverbeck was born in 1928, and will turn age 90 this 8 November)

    This reminds of the case of a World War II Jewish witness, a rabbi’s son, who was with the Russian advance troops who liberated places like Auschwitz, Joseph Ginzburg – Joseph G Burg, direct interrogator of Auschwitz and other camp survivors … The fiercely anti-Nazi and very Jewish Burg, said the Holocaust was an exaggeration, a fraud fabricated by Zionists, he wrote books on this, & had many of those books burned by the modern West German government … tho the old Bonn regime never had the stomach to jail rabbi’s son Joseph Ginzburg (1908-90), despite his holocaust denial

  6. MarkinLA says:

    OT but since it seems Israel first stooge Insane McCain is finally going to meet Satan.

    What I want to know is, has anybody announced how they intend to handle all the people who want to piss on his grave? Will there be a lottery, will there be those “take a number” machines, will it be first come first served or will there be some kind of contest, like writing an essay?

    • LOL: schnellandine, Rurik
    • Replies: @Moi
  7. On the day of Sept 11, when I still, of course, believed the Muslim terror attack story, I said to my wife ‘just Israel benefits’.
    I simply could not see how these Muslim attacks benefitted Muslims.
    No idea, at the time, as Anatol Lieven also did not have at the end of the month, his article ‘New Cold War’ in the then still independent Guardian, that these attacks would be used to justify wars on Afghanistan and Iraq.
    It was 2004 when Hollings made his famous speech, promising war to AIPAC for the jewish vote, ‘that is politics’.

    • Replies: @Hiram of Tyre
  8. @Grahamsno(G64)

    Arthur R. Butz, ´The hoax of the twentieth century, The case against the presumed extermination of European Jewry’, Costa Mesa CA, 1977, 1989

  9. Realist says:

    Time to question the loyalty of some legislators and judges

    As well as Trump.

    • Replies: @Scripted Reality
  10. I’m convinced the neocons will not pull this off this time. After many years of war a passive public may be catching on. I expect the price of oil to jolt upwards this afternoon. When people begin asking why …the answers need to be that our “ally” Israel keeps threatening war if they don’t get their way and Trump doesn’t tear up the P5+1 treaty.

    If your member of congress is either gung-ho on treaty repeal or even worse, talking about Iran regime change like Rudi , https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-committed-to-iran-regime-change-giuliani-says-1.6055510,, tell him or her that we can and will do better and expect to vote accordingly.

    • Agree: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @prusmc
  11. Momus says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Why do you say the holocaust is a myth? I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

  12. Mata Hari says:

    The Holocaust Hoax is the mother of all lies and it is amazing how reference to it appears in all things. But as it is a religion, it appears that its dogmas cannot be questioned. After all, without the Holohoax, where would the Jews as a power group be???

    Why, without them, we might have burned the Central banks in all countries.

  13. @Brabantian

    A 90 year old woman must “serve a two-year-jail sentence for questioning the official narrative of the Jewish killings in World War II …”
    This is surreal. Liberal democracy (what’s left of it) down the rabbit hole. Imprisonment as a consequence of questioning history ? Yes, I know, Germany has its … sensitivities, but should historical guilt excuse a vicious assault on core values & a vulnerable individual ?

    • Replies: @Art
    , @lavoisier
  14. m___ says:

    No context to the article that matters. Lost in deviations.

    The real issue: any transaction to and from Israel makes some Jewish and elite non Jewish Americans accessory. Israel is a fiscal off-shore through passage for decanting public funds to private hands, a physical vault to hold assets, reinsert assets into the global financial system.

    As imprecise as can be, but to popularize the situation: the before Castro, Cuba Mafia save haven.

    One must realize that when the dollar, as is happening looses part of it’s reserve status(currently under way, partly global transactions start escaping the dollar accountability, thus leaving a smaller margin of cooking the books), there need to be a trustworthy insertion point into the Yuan, any digital currency, international financial markets, currency speculation for the elites of the West, evasion of embargos for the exeptionals.

    This is partly the explanation of “military capitalism” deployed rather recently in insider circles to capture an existing situation where the US is left to prop up it’s financial make believe using military show of. That is partly why “war” is so publicly discussed, actions are leaked, this contrary to what real war requires, deep stealth.

    Israel is a Swiss knife for corporate international billionaires, no billionaires no Israel.

  15. m___ says:

    Not the appropriate place, but any direct contact with the site and/or author is shuttered.

    Individual feeds, per article mostly do not function, regardless of browser used. This could be the responsibility as per author, or site-wide. Please address. Granular jumping is a first as to efficient reading and searching.

    thnks,

  16. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    All those American legislators that get a free ticket and accommodations to visit the nation that they protect and defend with pro-Israel, anti-Free Speech laws are guilty of violating the Logan Act; petitioning the USG to help a foreign power maintain its grip over the USA.

    Not that any will be prosecuted, since that would be anti-Semitic, even though they are shredding the Bill of Rights for the glory of Apartheid Israel.

    If we get dragged into fighting another war against anther nation Israel wants destroyed, we’ll know who the culprits are and who guided them.

    Israel wants a piece of Syria; a piece of Iraq; a piece of Saudi Arabia; a piece of Lebanon; a piece of Jordan; a piece of Turkey; a piece of Egypt and whatever pieces are left after they genocide Palestine out of existence.

  17. @Momus

    I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

    LOL like not a single gassed victims body found and not a single major mass grave found. Overwhelming evidence indeed so overwhelming that you have to jail people who question this overwhelming mountain of evidence. Show me the bodies and I will believe in this miraculous mass murder where 6 million allegedly vanished without a trace.

    • Replies: @Momus
    , @headrick
  18. Would the JASTA act open the way for litigation against Israel’s involvement in 9/11?

    Of course, there would have to be a change in venue because the southern district of manhattan is kind of evil’s homecourt.

    Might be just the right crack in the absurdity, to investigate, prosecute and sentence the perpetrators. I mean if they can go after a ninety year old woman,why not a geriatric Jerome Hauser, Dov Zakheim, etc?

    Just spit-balling here, I’ll go back to my observational pessimism…

  19. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Thomm

    Or, it could just be that Unz believes in Aristotle’s theory that adopting intellectual virtues is the best way to get to the truth.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_virtue

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @George Taylor
  20. @Brabantian

    However much Ursula Haverbeck might be in error in her historical opinions, …

    Ursula Haverbeck is NOT in error in her historical opinions. Which, of course is the problem.

  21. @jilles dykstra

    He was the first revisionist author I read but at that time a couple of years ago I wasn’t ready to believe that people could lie about the Holocaust so I did not accept his arguments though at the back of my head his powerful arguments showing that Nuremberg was a sham trial and that the Einsatzgruppen operation summary reports were absurd fabrications lurked and these doubts never went away. Around 5 months back I started reading Carlo Mattogno and Rudolf Germar at Holocaust handbooks (thanks to Wally) and I was convinced. The weak revisionist position that the Holocaust is history abused for political purposes and should be rejected out of hand pending a critical reinvestigation stands. I fully subscribe to it.

  22. anarchyst says:

    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent Zionists formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the “transfer” of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Nothing about extermination.

    Official International Red Cross figures for all camp “deaths” total around 731,000–NOT “6 million”. In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war…

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not “add up”…

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the “yellow Star of David” armband so that they could be easily identified.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out . . .

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE “KANGAROO COURTS” THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. A question for you “holocaust ™” promoters–why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a “cash cow” that “keeps on giving”. . . “there’s NO business like “SHOAH business”.
    Jewish complicity in this event is carefully “covered up”.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question “official” jewish “holocaust” orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the “official” jewish “holocaust” story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to “all things holocaust”. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment. . .

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the “chosen”) to engineer the jewish “holocaust”, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish “holocaust” was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many “holocausts” of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish “holocaust” is the only one that counts . . .

    Look at the “commercialization of the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish “holocaust ™” “survivors”, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean “camp” numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and “disease”–”holocaust ™ “transference syndrome”. You see, children and grandchildren of jewish “holocaust ™” survivors are infected with this “disease” and should also be considered “holocaust ™” survivors, eligible for “holocaust ™” reparations.

    Since the jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews’ declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish “homeland for the last two-hundred years while predicting a “holocaust ™” of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures).

    Regarding that “holocaust ™” “showplace” Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called “gas chambers”. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called “gassing” took place”. There is a “gas chamber” chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the “operators” of these supposed “gas chambers”. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these “camps”.

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported “gas chambers”, had them tested and published his results. The absence of Prussian blue (ferricyanide) in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the “gas chambers” did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the “chimney” for the supposed “gas chamber” does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to “create” the “death camps” for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were “liberated” by the “allies”, the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be “liberated” by the Russian “allies”.

    I urge those “holocaust ™” believers to check these things out for yourselves–IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find…

  23. anarchyst says:

    American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets “foreign aid” in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship only reinforces “split loyalty”–NOT upholding the interests of the United States, and must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should not be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    • Replies: @Momus
    , @Seoulsurvivor
  24. anarchyst says:
    @Momus

    I’ve been to Auschwitz, and, as an engineer, saw for myself the inconsistencies both in the stories and facilities claimed to have been used for extermination. Even if one-million were “gassed and cremated”, the crematories would have been in operation through the 1950s to process that many bodies. The Auschwitz claims are utterly preposterous and false.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  25. @Momus

    I will give you the benefit of doubt and assume that you’re an intellectually honest seeker of knowledge. Please read the revisionist scholars on the site below. These are serious and outstanding works.

    http://www.holocausthandbooks.com

    Carlo Mattogno is the most brilliant revisionist Historian please read him and comeback to me afterwards and honestly answer whether the evidence for the Holocaust is overwhelming.

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=31

  26. The text says: “The legislation borrows from the U.S. State Department definition of anti-Semitism, which proscribes speech that “demonizes” or applies “double standards” to Israel “by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation” as anti-Semitic.”

    I’m no legal expert, but this seems quite doubtful to me. It transforms law in a joke. How can you know what is expected of other democratic nations? Who is going to decide that? And what is relevant, the general opinions of everybody about democratic countries, the opinions by specialists on democracy, the personal opinions of the judges, or the opinions of the accused person? If what counts are the opinions of the accused, how are you going to know what he thinks about other democracies? What if there are different opinions about democracy among specialists? In that case are some of the opinions about democracy going to be declared illegal or wrong by a court? What if someone argues that Israel isn’t a democracy and has good arguments to show that this is the case? In any case, what’s the problem with double standards? The only problem might be that you are hypocritical? If this is a problem, are you going to prosecute anyone who is a hypocrite? If not, can you say that the law itself is hypocritical because it uses double standards? Is the law in this case antisemitic and illegal? Do you have to prosecute the people responsible for this law because it uses double standards protecting a democracy while not protecting any other democracy?

    Second, how can a law of this kind refer to a specific entity, a particular country and still be legal? The law seems to favour discrimination. Why isn’t there a specific law to favour me? New Article 2 of the American Constitution: “Uncommon Ground is to be treated with utmost respect by everybody, nobody is allowed to criticise him, he can have a free lunch wherever he wants, he may enter any national park freely and so on.” So, don’t think of criticising my comment.

    Third, this seems dangerous. Couldn’t it be used against Zionists accused of double standards every time that they speak? Wouldn’t it be possible to send people to jail who defend the country accusing them of double standards?

  27. mr meener says:
    @Brabantian

    how is the 90 year old Ursula in error?? list where she is “in error”. are you part of the seek and destroy group hunting her?

  28. Anonymous[196] • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    As Brother Nathanael points out, in Elie Wiesel’s autobiographical book about his experiences at Auschwitz and Buchenwald, Wiesel never mentions gas chambers but rather execution of Jews by throwing them into flaming pits. You don’t need to be a conspiracy nut to question his exclusion of gas chambers in his autobiographical work about Nazi death camps or to find the claim of execution by throwing into flaming pits as ludicrous.

    We see even today, the case of “Assad gassing his own people”, how ludicrous the lies can be and how the controllers of the official narrative can easily get the vast majority of the people to accept the lies as fact. And even get them emotional and crying about these lies.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  29. Jake says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Latecomer, very late, to the party.

    What you note required a process that began with the Judaizing heresy Anglo-Saxon Puritanism. Then the Puritans spend decades getting much richer and becoming the most active group in English politics, one demanding changes that could come only with large scale violence to destroy.

    The Puritan Revolution was necessary, making Anglo-Saxon Judaizing the heresy that would be the basis of WASP culture, of Modern English culture. Then Archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell made concrete the meaning of Anglo-Saxon Puritanism by allying with Jews, taking Jewish money (to Jews, being bought by Jews) , granting Jews the right to return to England and granting Jews special rights and privileges. And that deal was made precisely so Cromwell could slaughter more white Christians native to the British Isles.

    From the time it became fully established as itself, as opposed to being a stage of pre-Reformation English identity and deep-culture, WASP culture was allied with Jews so WASP culture could destroy more white Gentiles and their local cultures.

    The British Empire took that culture’s attitudes and manners and morals worldwide.

    All of the above was absolutely necessary to what we suffer from today. Today, that WASP Empire still exists, its main capital moved from London to DC and NYC, with Hollywood its entertainment and propaganda capital.

    The Holocaust will remain sacrosanct anywhere that WASP culture rules, anywhere the values and mores, the identity, of WASP culture sets standards and uses it guns and banks to make them stick.

    Of course, you can’t have the rise of the Judaizing Anglo-Saxon Puritans without the Reformation, so perhaps we should start there.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  30. Zumbuddi says:
    @Momus

    My Laugh out Loud button is in the shop for repairs..

    LOL

  31. Momus says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    There are hundreds of mass grave sites throughout Europe where the Jewish victims of the Nazis have been identified by name. You are on the wrong side of history talking out your arse.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  32. prusmc says: • Website
    @Mark James

    If I remember correctly, this was not a treaty. Via some legislative slight-of-hand, Mitch and Chuck worked out of a ratification by non-ratification. Then when its’ passage was secure, SChumer could grandstand for the home folks and then vote in opposition.

  33. Strange how many people are obsessing about Jewish victimhood during WWII. How can they, then, explain that way too many Jews in Europe disappeared? Vast swaths of their population in Poland, Ukraine, Romania, Belarus, Russia, Netherlands, Hungary,…- gone irreversibly.

    I don’t know the exact figure, but most historians agree that number would be somewhere from 5 to 6 million.

    http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm

    Holocaust

    Extermination of the Jews: [make link]:

    Reitlinger, Gerald, The Final Solution (1953): between 4,194,200 and 4,851,200 (this number is accepted by Kinder, The Anchor Atlas of World History (1978))
    Brzezinski: 5,000,000
    Chirot: 5,100,000
    3,000,000 in death camps.
    1,300,000 massacred.
    800,000 by dis./maln. in ghettos
    David E. Stannard, “The Politics of Genocide Scholarship,” in Alan S. Rosenbaum, ed., Is the Holocaust Unique? Perspectives on Comparative Genocide (1996), p. 178. By one estimate, 2.4 million of the 5.1 million victims of the Holocaust died of disease in ghettos and concentration camps.
    Rummel: 5,291,000
    Grenville: 5-6M
    Davies, Europe A History (1998): avg. c. 5,571,300 (puts the minimum at 4,871,000 and the maximum at 6,271,500.)
    MEDIAN: ca. 5.6M
    Nuremberg indictment: 5,700,000 (accepted by Britannica)
    Gutman, Encyclopedia of the Holocaust (1990): 5,596,029 to 5,860,129
    P. Johnson: 5,800,000
    Wallechinsky: “nearly” 6,000,000
    Urlanis: 6M

    As for “who killed most”, opinions are divided:

    http://necrometrics.com/tyrants.htm


    Question: Who was the Bloodiest Tyrant of the 20th Century?

    Answer: We don’t know.

    1. Mao- 40M
    Hitler- 34M
    Stalin- 20M

    2. Hitler- 34M
    Stalin-20M
    Mao-10M

    3. Stalin -20M
    Hitler-15
    Mao-10M

    4. Hitler-34M
    Stalin-20M
    Mao-10M
    ..
    So, the answer to the question of “Who is roasting on the hottest fires in Hell?” is “Well, that depends…”

    As for general WWII victimology, there are too many variables:

    https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

    Research Starters: Worldwide Deaths in World War II
    ………………..

    China 20,000,000
    Germany 6,600,000-8,800,000
    Soviet Union 24,000,000
    ……….

    So, while ethnic Jewish activists can be criticized for focusing exclusively on their people’s suffering, while ignoring more numerous & drastic that had befallen other peoples, I don’t see how holo deniers can hold their ground.

    Their position is simply untenable & ludicrous.

    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
    , @Wally
    , @j2
  34. Anonymous[612] • Disclaimer says:

    Do you get bored writing the same column over and over?

    • Replies: @densa
    , @jacques sheete
  35. The Zionist plans are all laid out in The Protocols of Zion and sadly their plans are being fulfilled as since 1913 with the installation of the Zionist owned FED and the IRS America was sold out to the Zionist bankers and thus the wars and destruction of the U.S. and the world began and continues today for Israel and the Zionist NWO.

    If anyone doubts that Zionist control America , just remember that Israel did 911 and killed 3000 Americans and got away with it.

    • Replies: @ohmy
  36. There are hundreds of mass grave sites throughout Europe

    Show me 10 mass graves like Katyn which were forensically investigated – you can’t. They found nothing in the famous Babbi Yar – nothing at all. These mass graves you speak off are nothing but tombstones and memorial placques stating that so many thousands were shot and buried here – but there’s no proof and the Rabbis in charge of these places will not allow any forensic investigation because that would be ‘dishonoring the dead’. To cover up this scandalous lack of evidence the hoaxers made up the story of Paul Blobbel the magic man incinerator who in a years time traveled to 1000s of site in an area which was roughly 1.5 square million kilometres and exhumed and burnt every corpse and ground all the bones. For someone who did this superhuman task very little is known about this magic man incinerator.

    Oh there is also the curious case of the dog that did not bark i.e. the Russians, 1.2 to 2 million Jews were supposed to have been shot in the Eastern Front and the Russians remained totally silent. They could have used these mass shootings as a propaganda coup but they did nothing. It’s impossible that they didn’t know it since they had tens of thousands of partisans behind German lines. Then the even more curious fact – the Russians were deeply embarrassed by the Germans over the Katyn mass graves so when they started driving the Germans back they methodically investigated the sites of the alleged shooting and were desperately looking for mass graves. They found nothing of any significance.

    You are on the wrong side of history talking out your arse.

    Your traditional holocaust story is dead mate, nothing can resurrect it which is why in a desperate attempt to preserve the story they throw people into prison who question it.

    Have you read revisionist literature? Read it and then come back. But I get the feeling that you’re an intellectually dishonest hack who will not read the other side of the story.

    • Replies: @Momus
  37. JustJeff says:
    @Momus

    The problem with the holocaust isn’t that it’s a myth, the problem is that it’s treated like a religious event and not a historical one. 70% of American jews believe remembering the holocaust is central to Jewish identity so it pretty much is a religion for secular Jews. We need to go back to treating it like a historical event and stop making it so emotional. There’s no reason why we should get more emotional over the holocauat versus any other genocide. It doesn’t make the Jews special and it doesn’t give them the right to oppress Palestinians and hijack American foreign policy.

  38. It’s not always a paying job. Don’t forget blackmail. That’s how we wound up with a teacup poodle for a watchdog when the time came to punish the greatest financial crime in history. Turns out NY DA Schnauzerman’s a big perv who has to hit girls to keep his little ritually-mutilated stiffie up. That’s how he clinched his crucial big job, with his unique credential: you can blackmail the crap out of him. We were downcast, but not surprised, to see his hilariously hammy legal ‘Lemme-at-em, lemme-at-em!’ act. Now we know exactly why Schnauzerman let Goldman Sachs off the hook. It wasn’t Mossad shekels that prompted his treason. It was Mossad pimps of girly punching bags, classic CIA cutouts. They took out Spitzer the same way first.

  39. @Momus

    It is an EXAGGERATION, full of specious claims.

  40. @JustJeff

    Hitler was a left-wing Utopian.

    • Replies: @JustJeff
  41. Momus says:
    @anarchyst

    The American Presidents Johnson and Nixon were satisfied with the Israeli explanation that they would not be the first to introduce nuclear weapons to the mid east. Successive administrations accept this declaration and are not interested in forcing them to join the IAEA.

    Fair enough too given the history of their persecution and the massive contributions of Jewish brainpower to America’s bomb project and many prior and subsequent, scientific, medical, legal and industrial efforts.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Hunsdon
    , @Caruthers
  42. From MarketWatch.com:

    Iran-deal opponents’ dirt on Rhodes: President Trump appears likely to announce his decision to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal on Tuesday. Ahead of the announcement, the New York Times reports that evidence has surfaced that the agreement’s opponents engaged in an effort to dig up dirt on former Obama aide Benjamin Rhodes and his family that continued well after the Obama administration left office. Opponents of the nuclear deal with Iran have accused Rhodes for years of scheming to sell the agreement on false pretenses to the American people.

    The Times says a detailed report on Rhodes compiled by investigations firm Black Cube contains pictures of his Washington apartment, telephone numbers and email addresses of his family members, as well as unsubstantiated allegations of personal and ethical transgressions. It is unclear who hired Black Cube, the Times reported. The firm was founded by former intelligence analysts from the Israeli Defense Forces.

    • Replies: @Momus
  43. You’ve got to congratulate the people of South Carolina on their record of wise decisions and national leadership: Secession, firing on Fort Sumter, Nikki Haley and friends v. free speech…..

    • Replies: @Sir Launcelot Canning
  44. @Bardon Kaldian

    Their position is simply untenable & ludicrous.

    Really then why are revisionists harassed and thrown into prison. Why this raft of Holocaust denial laws in Europe over the last decade. You could have just laughed us off as street corner crackpots – why the loss of livelihood and prison sentences? You know why because you can’t answer the hard technical questions the revisionists pose.

    About the numbers quoted in your post you should be a bit agnostic about it, I will give you a single example, in the Iraq war you had wildly different body counts the medical journal lancet gave a number of 1-1.5 million dead whereas the Iraqi govt. gave a body count of 150,000 the lancet journal used statistical methods accepted by contemporary demographics whereas the Iraqi govt. used the death certificates issued to next of Kin stating that without a death certificate nothing moved in Iraq. And you are talking about a televised war in the 21st century!! Imagine the chaos involved in attempting to give a bodycount of the Holocaust.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    , @El Dato
  45. @jilles dykstra

    That book, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, is sold by neither Amazon, nor Barnes and Noble or any other major bookstore and is illegal to own or purchase in many countries.

    Does that not act as a red flag to people about the veracity of the claims of Jews and their supporters about “the holocaust”? If what Butz had written was nonsense or demonstrably false it would serve as an example of how wrong holocaust revisionists are right?

    A lot of people here probably rightly consider themselves to be fairly well informed. It’s worth your time to watch this video, four hours in its entirety, which scientifically breaks down a lot of the claims made about what happened. It’s what made me start to seriously question what I’d been told.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  46. @JustJeff

    His Head Honor JustJeff wrote:
    “It (the Holocaust) doesn’t make the Jews special and it doesn’t give them the right to oppress Palestinians and hijack American foreign policy.”

    Hi JustJeff,

    I totally agree with your judgement, above, however each smiling person depicted in this article’s corresponding photograph does not. Like P. Giraldi said, “protecting Israel is their full time job,” but the situation is actually much worse.

    I will explain.

    Except for indoctrinated & intimidated American, it’s obvious to everyone worldwide that the only people who can commit war crimes & get off (unaccountably) “scot free” are Zionist Jews.

    Please, your Honor JustJeff, consider looking at the exemplary article & companion video, linked down below?

    With an English translation, at the Gaza border, you will hear an Israeli soldier (on a loudspeaker) address protesters who assembled for their weekly march on the Gaza border.

    Phew! Was not a (“fig leaf”) electronic signal for Islamic prayer-hour at the fence.

    Untethered to any military oath designed to spare the lives of Palestinian civilians, the Israeli soldier-hero warned, “If you keep waving the stick, we will shoot!”

    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/05/video-waving-stick/

    Thanks very much for your timely comment, JustJeff!

    We must neither fear nor hesitate to cross the Holohoax-Line that Jewish Lobby-aligned ZUS legislator-censors are now busily drawing along state borders, for example South Carolina.

  47. Wally says:
    @Brabantian

    Do tell us exactly how Haverbeck is “in error”. We wait.

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1


    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau

    http://www.codoh.com

  48. JustJeff says:
    @ISmellBagels

    Yeah yeah and dems r da reel racists. At least put that high verbal iq to work and be original.

  49. Wally says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    “Their position is simply untenable & ludicrous.”

    Seriously? So then that’s why you dodge my numerous posts with info. & links.

    Yet you have merely posted manufactured numbers for your beloved but impossible ‘holocau$t’ victims’.
    Those numbers are totally without proof. Completely faked, Zionist style.

    We’re talking about an alleged ’6M Jews & 5M others’ … 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    Please tell us how the alleged, yet impossible, ‘gas chambers’ worked. We’re waiting.

    - For a thorough demolition of the alleged Auschwitz gas chambers & alleged Auschwitz homicidal gassing process see analysis at:

    http://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=model&t=10798&sf=msgonly

    If you think you have what it takes then step up and debate. What are you afraid of?
    http://www.codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    , @Meimou
  50. Them Guys says:
    @anarchyst

    Great info packed Post!!….Also, these hoax believers like momus et al, do NOT really want a real proof and documented factual answer to their many question’s like as example: “But but!! tell me why you think it isn’t real or call it a Hoax” etc etc……..

    It simply is a knee jerk programed brainwashed response on their part due to their unexplainable deep desire to “Arise!! All you Defenders of all issues jewish! and complain, question, Bash and when ALL else Fails……Call em all an Antisemitenaziwhowantstokillsixmillion MORE!”

    Then….They have a huge mixed inner deep seated feeling, all emotional driven,of really having Done something really good for jews.

    And Always….ALWAYS!…The exact same mental programing effect of never willing to reply with sound factual answers, and never ever ever ever being willing to actually READ/research Any of tons of other’s well provided, too many to count, Books-Websites-RABBIS & Various highly rated jewish historians etc that provide those who are wide awake to this mass hoax with Most of the Revisionist materials!…….They will reject to research any of it, and resort to vile name calls, and if you provide any jewish or rabbi sourced proof….Their response will likely be..”Well that rabbi or jewish writer is just a Self-Hater-jew!!!”

    OyVeh!…..Whats a good Bapduh apostate jewdeochristowhacko schofield bible believer to do eh?

    Answer: Just keep repeating over and over that OT genesis verse of “Gen: 12 vs 3″ And fully Mis-interpret it so that any word like “Seed” or “Israel” always means the word “jew or jewish”!

    Never mind that one Must read thru almost…500-Pages…Yes 500! Before the very word of “jew” can be found in the bible!….From page One to page, almost, page 500 Before he word jew appears!

    Just wait for the fireworks replies once you alert them to this Fact!

    Or ask: “So did Abram (later called Abraham) somehow Forget to tell us all he was a jew or what?

    And same for moses, Jacob and many more OT persons….NONE remembered to mention how they was a jew….Hmmmmm….

    And Disclaimer in advance:…yes yes I am aware that poster who asked why call it a hoax, then when all else fails began to call folks nice enough to answer he/she, vile names like arse…..Never to my knowledge stated anything about the bible etc…

    I just wanted to Include that part incase we do see another apostate schofield whacko Israel firster try to use that OT verse again….It is an abject 100% Fail as any “bless Israel state or bless jews” proof period….And the NT Paul writer in Galations chapters is where they can locate Truth which actually Names that OT genesis verse so relied upon(wrongly) and fully explains why and how they are so totally wrong….NOwheres biblically states any such thing of “Bless the jews”.

    Indeed!…Those very First and still today foremost Antichrists and Anti-Christians self chozen self worshippers are somehow “special” due to Cyrus Schofield’s interpretations eh?

    Ok so who Was cyrus schofield?…Just a Failed Husband/Father/Politition/Drunk/Gambler/Dis-Bared Felonious convicted Lawyer and Pal of a grandkid of Rothschild jew bankster clan!…Failed at everything, except for his great grand Dupeing bible apostacy that has more bad influence today than even AIPAC can muster in congress and the white house and state dept and msm.

    Anybody asking or demanding any proof etc that then refuses to ever LOOK at or READ/Research given proofs and usually given by a fuckin Boatload, is not seeking real answers but only “performing” as Trained/Brainwashed by jewry and usually also by apostate falsehood preachermen to do period….

    One final statement question for ALL such foolish defenders and supporters of all things jewry.

    Question: “If” as those who base it mostly on biblical verses as mentioned above, believe in a so called “God wont bless America or Us unless We first bless jewry/Israel state”?

    TELL Us when and where will such great God’s blessings happen in or to us and usa?

    Because about the very same time frame of 1950-60 era when such bless jews=get gods blessings began to get promoted…….And right when Israel became a state nation per UN mandates.

    All Observant folks in usa and elsewhere can see for Real is….That since falsehoods of bless jewry started….America has gone ALL Down Hill into a full Blown CURSED Nation!

    And incase the foolish ones are really behind in factual truths on these cursed issues?

    Here I will assist you with just the Two Main major curses upon usa and Us non jews.

    #1=Jewry…#2 curse= Hoards of non white invaders brought Here by Mainly jewish slavers! And Later via Open borders Divirsity crap swindle scams….I’d Bet if most awake folk had to pick just One of the two main curses….to boot out…They’d no doubt begin a boot out with jewry first.

    Like Car Maker Genius Henry Ford’s 1922 Book Title state’s it…

    “International Jewry…..The World’s Foremost Problem”…..Indeed Mr. Ford.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  51. anarchyst says:

    Criminalizing TRUTH is the main method that holocaust ™ promoters use to keep it alive. Add to that, the holocaust ™ museums located throughout the world which “keep the dream (and shekels flowing) alive. Did you know that “tribal” jewish psychiatrists are now claiming that the children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren of holocaust ™ survivors are all suffering from holocaust ™ “transference syndrome”, thereby declaring future generations to be holocaust ™ survivors, eligible for “reparations”. If this takes hold, it will never end for the one only holocaust ™ throughout history. Victims of truly horrific jewish-created communist holocausts need not apply.

    There is a lot more to the jewish holocaust ™ as the aim of the zionists was to get jews to abandon their comfortable lives in Europe to emigrate to what was then known as Palestine. In fact, there were agreements between the German government and zionists to effect such “transfers”. As most jews considered themselves to be Germans first, it was an extremely “hard sell”. The genius of the zionist “plan” wss to marginalize German jews, thereby “encouraging” them to emigrate. A few “dirty secrets” that zionists do not want exposed is that it was zionists who made the “suggestion” to require jews to wear an armband specifying their ethnicity, as well as forcibly shipping jews to labor camps. An inconvenient fact was that many jews served in the German military of the time…

  52. Them Guys says:
    @Momus

    In 1999 Two Archeology experts took the Same type Ground Penetrating Radar machinery as used on the TV show Ice Road Truckers, used to check via xray type computer assisted graphs the Depth of Ice to see if road is Safe to drive upon……Same exact machinery taken to 1/2 Dozen or so “Camps” to search for buried bodies and or ash of burned after exumed millions bodies as claimed by many jews.

    They located ZERO bodies-Bones-Ash’s-Teeth fragments etc. ZERO-NONE!

    And in year 2000 French and other newspapers did long articles on this mission to locate.

    ZERO=NONE!

    What Do You Not as Yet…Get eh?

    oh I forgot you have refused to read or research ANY provided info or websites or books and rather keep asking questions or “educating” all the wide awake smart folks here with repetitive falsehoods that You provide zero proof of….OyVeh….

    • Replies: @Momus
  53. @Thomm

    Someone’s more than a little triggered. In fact, pretty much any time I see one of your posts, you seem to be barely able to hide your unimaginative racist rhetoric behind that thin veil of holier than thou art pretentiousness you’re always trying to beat whites over the head with around here instead of making an actual, cogent argument against white nationalism. Ever.

    Seriously, use the term ‘white trashionalist’ more. Maybe throw in an ‘AmeriKKKa’ while you’re at it, for good measure. Your credibility is surging with each usage, after all. Confirming to the average reader here that you are definitely intelligent, completely above racism and falling for that racial division narrative. And under no circumstances are you just a petty racist with a chip on his shoulder and no real criticisms to make beyond the usual, par for the course ad hominem rhetoric one can find in the comments at WaPo.

    In one breath you assert that you are a part of the “5% that disputes the white/black division narrative”, and then with practically every other word in your entire comment, you go on sowing the very seeds of division you just declared your opposition to by ridiculing whites with assertions that they…. get this….. have an IQ in the range of the average black person on this planet… It’s comical, no?

    The irony is palpable. Though I am willing to bet it’s utterly lost on a genius like you.

    Thanks for coming out.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  54. Moi says:
    @MarkinLA

    He’s asked that a Marine band play “Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Eye-ran) at his funeral.

  55. anarchyst says:
    @Them Guys

    Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant, to which I reply, “God is not a real estate agent”.
    Jews rejected the covenant when they murdered Jesus Christ. Their covenant with God was then “null and void”.
    It is the flawed Schofield translation of the Bible that elevated jews to the status of Christianity’s “elder brothers”, which was then reinforced by the Catholic (flawed) “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” in the 1960s.
    I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage.
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    The only common thread between Christianity and judaism is the Ten Commandments–nothing more.
    The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.
    Christianity welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status–not true of judaism.
    Judaism is an insular belief system that shuns outsiders, prohibits proselytization, and promotes a form of supremacy, relegating all gentiles (non-jews) to the status of livestock–subhumans with souls, only to be used for the advancement and benefit of jews.
    Jews DID murder Jesus Christ. Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder. As always is the case, the jews got others, the Romans to do their dirty work for them–the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. How can Christians have the same values as the Jews; the very people who denounced and betrayed the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, and call for his execution (by others, of course, that is the Jewish way). It makes absolutely no sense at all. Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.
    It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel’s wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.

    • Replies: @gwynedd1
    , @Them Guys
  56. anarchyst says:
    @Momus

    What say you on the deliberate Israeli act of war on the USS Liberty (GTR-5) on June 8, 1967, with the loss of 34 American sailors’ lives?

    • Replies: @Momus
  57. c matt says:
    @Brabantian

    Hey, ‘International Auschwitz Committee,’ if you are looking for Ursula Haverbeck-Wetzel , she is at Buckingham Palace posing as Queen Elizabeth II. Go get ‘er.

  58. Thomm says:
    @RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965

    Yawn….. you have completely failed to understand even the most basic points I have made.

    I am extremely pro-white. Yet, I have simultaneously brought the spotlight to the unusually high variance within whites, and how the bottom 20% comprises a group that lags the better 80% by so much as to be a separate, defective subrace.

    This defective subrace is where the genetic waste matter collects. The reason the rest of us whites improve at a faster rate than other races is because we have evolved to efficiently remove the genetic waste matter into individual carriers.

    The men of this group become WN wiggers like you. The women of this group become the fat bluehaired feminists.

    In one breath you assert that you are a part of the “5% that disputes the white/black division narrative”

    False. Your reading comprehension is terrible. My point (which is the same as Ron Unz’s point), is that all non-blacks get along fine, and that blacks are the problem. Thanks for proving that you, like all WNs, have a negro-IQ.

    ridiculing whites with assertions that they…. get this….. have an IQ in the range of the average black person on this planet…

    I have repeatedly said that the top 80% of whites have an average IQ of 105. Instead, it is wiggers like you who have IQs of 70 or so. I am keen on purging the waste matter that you represent from the pool so that you stop tainting the rest of us, but mother nature is doing that already.

    Sux to be you.

    Heh heh heh heh

  59. nickels says:
    @Momus

    Precisely.
    It is meant to be overwhelming , to overwhelm your reason and propagandize you to believe in a big tub of dung.

  60. nickels says:

    The conditions for rising up against the unconstitutional seizure of the American state have long been in place, since at least the Brown vs. Board decision to ignore democracy, ignore the constitution and start legislating from the bench.

    Since then the march of tyranny has only accelerated, to rather unbelievable lengths.

    Unfortunately the moral backbone to do anything about it does not exist.

    People want their ‘freedoms’ to degenerate, destructive behaviors. So they have traded their spines and traded their dignity for them.

    The moral force is more than just ‘acting good’ or going to Sunday school. As Clausewitz discusses, it is the central piece in any strategy of resistance or action. It is a common language that people can use to speak against oppression. It is the ability to count on your fellow man to be as enraged as yourself against injustice.

    Time is running out.

  61. gwynedd1 says:
    @Momus

    Overwhelming evidence of what?

    Few deny that something happened to the Jews. What exactly that was is entirely another matter.

    • Replies: @Momus
  62. MacNucc11 says:

    I would like to see a posting of the companies on the boycott list before it is impossible to locate.

  63. @Wally

    What you wrote is bullshit. Codoh is bullshit. You haven’t presented single rational & tenable argument.

    And, no serious historian talks about “6 M and 5 M others”. Hitler’s victims, depending on methodology, are bracketed between 15 million and 35 million.

    Nothing more than irresponsible blabber. The entire holo denial business is just a bunch of crackpots running around & screaming nonsense.

    • Agree: Andrew E. Mathis
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @gwynedd1
    , @Wally
  64. gwynedd1 says:
    @anarchyst

    “Elder brothers.”

    No kidding. Why not the Sadducees instead? More or less Judasim is founded from the Pharisee religion, essentially found in the Mishnah contemporary with the New Testament. Both lay claim to the same “legitimate” root. One went spiritual , NT and libertarian and the other when more literal and authoritarian.

    May as well consider Apocrypha too then.

    Torah Jews believe both are full of crap. Everyone left the Samaritans out to dry and they were persecuted as schismatics by all. Guess than means they are wrong since there are few who remain.

    I suppose the Essene was the one out of the three that was proven wrong the most since the rebellion did not look like it was divine providence when they starved inside Jerusalem.

  65. @Johnny Smoggins

    I bought it through ABE books, no problem.
    It was mentioned by a German expert on concentration camps in one of his books.
    To this day I wonder why he mentioned it.

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
  66. @JustJeff

    As is the Armenian genocide to the Armenian identity.

  67. @Anonymous

    Elie Wiesel, ‘La Nuit’, 1958, 2007
    Wiesel assumed the gas chambers in Birkenau, where he never was.
    He did see chimneys, that were there, the crematoria.
    Too lazy to find the exact words, and translate them.
    I wonder if anyone ever read this book with attention, what he describes about the Auschwitz camps he was in, several, fits with what Rassinier and others describe, the camps had self management.
    Paul Rassinier, ´Was ist Wahrheit ?, Die Juden und das Dritte Reich´, Leoni am Starnberger See, 7th printing, 1981 (Le véritable procès Eichmann ou les vainqueurs incorrigibles, 1963; The Real Eichmann Trial or the Incorrigible Victors. ISBN: 0911038485, 1983)
    Eugen Kogon, ‘Der SS-Staat, Das System der deutschen Konzentrationslager’, 1974, München
    J.G. Burg, Schuld und Schicksal, Europas Juden zwischen Henkern und Heuchlern, München, 1962

  68. densa says:
    @Anonymous

    I hope not. There is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come.

    Thanks to Giraldi and all the commenters here who want to see our government function on our behalf. Right now it’s riddled with treason. Despite large majorities of both parties consistently identifying money as corrupting our politics, bribery became normalized in part so that Jewish politics could prosper. Now we no longer even expect our representative to pretend.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  69. Treasonous government worker rats — such as Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, Charles Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Marco Rubio — who put the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States must be removed from power by patriotic Americans.

    Israel is a strategic liability and an untrustworthy client state of the American Empire. The United States should cut all ties with Israel. the American Empire’s three letter word interest in the Middle East is O – I – L not J – E – W. George Washington was right about treasonous and perfidious elements putting the interests of other nations ahead of the interests of the United States.

    Treasonous government worker rats have been putting the interests of Israel ahead of the United States for half a century or more. Former president George W Bush and former vice president Dick Cheney are two treasonous government worker rats who have put the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States.

    George W Bush, Dick Cheney and the Jew-controlled Neo-Conservative faction in the Republican Party dragged the US military into the Iraq War debacle. The Jew-controlled Neo-Conservative faction of the Republican Party is always looking to get the US military to do the dirty work for Israel. It is to be expected.

    What is not to be expected is to have two treasonous government worker rats such as George W Bush and Dick Cheney use their power to advance the foreign policy goals of Israel at the expense of the foreign policy interests of the United States.

    Treasonous government workers say there is no daylight between the interests of Israel and the interests of the United States. Patriotic Americans who love their country, and have great respect for George Washington, must immediately begin efforts to totally and completely break any and all ties between Israel and the United States.

    AMERICA FIRST!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  70. @Bardon Kaldian

    Hi Bar Don Kaldian,

    Below is a “crackpot” Israeli-commemoration that’s way more than mere “irresponsible blabber.”

    https://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/In-honor-of-Trump-Jerusalem-square-near-American-embassy-named-for-him-554752

  71. Momus says:
    @Altan Goldman

    Ben Rhodes conduct was egregious but it pales in comparison with the almost treasonous capitulation Obama and Kerry inflicted on the US and the West. I would imagine knowing that Black Cube had looked him up for a potential date would be a bit unsettling.

  72. j2 says:
    @Momus

    I have been there 4 times. First time there was a sign that 4 million died. Last time they did not show the film anymore but merely explained that prisoners had to stand long hours on a name call, which for sure is true, and that a water pipe for washing which has many equal size holes and high pressure cannot possibly give out water except from the first few holes. At the same time in Krakow there were similar water pipes on the market place, they did give water from all holes(?) If you do yourself calculations of the dead and survivors maybe you find something odd.

  73. Momus says:
    @anarchyst

    That the Israelis were not in a position to fuck around?

    They would also shoot down any of their own pilots who appeared to be going to overfly Dimona.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  74. Momus says:
    @gwynedd1

    Overwhelming evidence for the holocaust. For every denier there are a thousand witnesses.

    • Replies: @gwynedd1
    , @L.K
    , @Wally
    , @Them Guys
  75. @jilles dykstra

    I just did a quick search on ABE books and it’s no longer even listed. I bought it on another book website and got one of only four copies available. Hang on to your copy, it might become a collector’s item.

    Of course it’s widely available on pdf.

  76. Momus says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    I’ve read and listened to David Irving before he was booted from my country and tried to follow the threads of other denier arguments. For every question raised there is a deafening thunder of answers and evidence refuting it.

    Get yourself along to the Yad Veshem Holocaust Memorial Center in Jerusalem. I guarantee your point of view will shift 180 degrees.

    Alternatively you could line up with the Hiroshima Bomb deniers and fry what’s left of your brain’s evidence-examining faculty following that rubbish.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Meimou
    , @Wally
  77. Momus says:
    @Them Guys

    Maybe they looked in the wrong places or the radar gear had been broken by the truckers?

  78. @Jake

    Communism as ethnic warfare. Jews use ideological subterfuge to mask their ethnic-driven eliminationist attacks upon European Christians and European Christendom.

    Cromwellism as ethnic warfare. Teutonic twat Cromwell uses parliamentary power struggle to attack Anglo-Normans and the Celtic periphery.

    Can’t we all get along? Sorry, Sir Rodney King, we can’t.

  79. @Grahamsno(G64)

    Really then why are revisionists harassed and thrown into prison. Why this raft of Holocaust denial laws in Europe over the last decade. You could have just laughed us off as street corner crackpots – why the loss of livelihood and prison sentences? You know why because you can’t answer the hard technical questions the revisionists pose.

    This is because European New Left has, in past few decades, expanded their power & has brought most Western European societies to the brink of suicidal lunacy. Ideological heirs to 1968 are running decadent & self-destructive societies.

    If these lands were healthy, holo denial crazies would be left free to blather whatever they want.

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @Momus
  80. gwynedd1 says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Don’t you find it a little odd the Germans would use such an inefficient means to kill people like gassing them? Also odd that Ann Frank died of Typhus showing the exact reason why the pesticide was in use.

    But why gas people when starvation is so passively effective? All that “evidence” shows staved emaciated bodies. So people on the brink of starvation need to be gassed?

    Even German fighting units were starving:

    http://www.dererstezug.com/German_Rations_at_the_Front.htm

    “The Germans also attempted to develop individual combat rations similar to those used by the U.S. Army, such as “C” and “K” rations, but they never reached the level of perfection of the American’s packaged rations (For additional information on these rations, refer to the article: “German Iron Rations” by Doug Nash or “The German Army K-Ration” by Eric Tobey published on this website). This method of delivering individual rations was unsuccessful, due either to failures of the supply system to get these rations to the front, or that there simply were not enough on hand to issue to the troops on a regular basis when the normal method of issuing hot rations failed. Either way, the German food supply system was totally inadequate to properly sustain the fighting energy that the troops needed for this offensive campaign.

    So, as the campaign began, the German food supply system, including that of the 352nd VGD, was already unable to keep its Grenadiers adequately fed. As the Battle of the Bulge dragged on into January, the lack of proper nutrition, made worse by having to live out in the open during an uncharacteristically cold winter, took its physical and mental toll on the average Grenadier. Tired, hungry, cold, and forced to forage for his food, only a superman could have continued fighting with the same enthusiasm and effectiveness that the German forces displayed at the beginning of the offensive.

    Jews were certainly captives and were forced into labor. However its pretty clear that as the captives they were they were likely to starve. The prison guards were probably starving at the end. All it would take is the last month or two of complete devastation to do this. The Germans of course made a colossal mistake . They were responsible for putting them in this position. They made the Jews helpless . If you cannot feed them…

    Well, I guess rounding people up and neglecting them due to being a loser in a war is not going to be the propaganda tool they are looking for because its all too common. Its just a too ordinary horror of war.

    http://thecatholicspirit.com/news/local-news/wwii-vet-recalls-ordeal-inside-german-prison-camp/

    “The initial interrogations soon gave way to the daily struggles and boredom of life in Stalag 17. The hardest part, he said, was the constant hunger. The men were fed only a warm cup of water in the morning, then one cup of barley soup around noon. At first, Velasquez did not want to eat the soup because it was full of worms. But, when it came down to a choice between eating it and starving, he chose to swallow his displeasure along with the worms.”

    Imagine the US losing the war to Japan. I wonder how well fed those Japanese captives in US camps would be if there were food shortages? I doubt the US would have come off too well with starved Japanese.

    What really fucking pisses me off about the Holocaust propaganda machine is that it covers up the real conversation about how vulnerable a displaced people actually is. Most people think it takes gas chambers to kill people like this. All you need to do is move them and put them in camps in such a position that they are dependents. If anything goes wrong with supply or basic sanitation , people start dying.

    Staved and emaciated bodies just do not fit with gas chambers. However this should hopefully come as a warning to any ideas of putting people into camps. If they die it was still your responsibility.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  81. gwynedd1 says:
    @Momus

    Define “Holocaust”.

    If for example I said 8 million died in the “Holocaust” from hours of torture , does that mean you are a “Holocaust” denier? Maybe I think its 10 million and all you deniers should be in prison?

    • Replies: @Momus
  82. j2 says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    If you take the best data, that is American Jewish Yearbooks before the war and after and make the corrections to the last of German and Austrian Jews who immigrated, and correct the figure for Romania, you get Reitlinger’s number 4.5 million. If you notice to divide Europe to two parts, West including Western part of Poland that Germany occupied, and East, and then calculate, you get the unavoidable result that in Auschwitz could die maximum 400,000 (can be 60,000 quite well). As it is considerably smaller than 1 million, you see that there must be an error in the accepted figures. When you track the error, you find it and it is not in your calculation, it is in those books you refer to. Reitlinger’s 4.5 million is correct, if the starting value for the Soviet Union (2.8 million in 1939) is correct, but this figure is highly uncertain. If you then count the Jewish population in the USA, adding all known immigration waves and using the (well estimated) birth rate of 1.4% yearly, you notice that there was 1 million immigration to the USA apparently from other countries than Eastern Europe, that is, first moving to England, Germany or Mexico and migrating from there in another quote. This means that the likely number of dead is 3.5 million. It is still very high. There was a genocide, but not the way and in the places as is told. You refer to books. I suggest you make your own calculation and verify these books. But, I do not deny Holocaust. It was a miracle of G-d. Despite the fact that mathematics shows what I wrote, I believe that G-d could have more Jews die than there was. By the way, 6 million Jews are not missing. It is either 4.5 million or 3.5 million depending on whether there was before war (1920-38) immigration of 1 additional million to the States or not. This I cannot say for sure, it looks like there was from the population figures of the USA Jewish population.

  83. This article is illustrative of why I send donations to courageous Mr. Giraldi’s Council for the National Interest. As a matter of fact I sent him a little money the other day, and will continue to do so when I can afford it.

  84. bookish1 says:

    Jews aren’t as smart as some people think. Some of the first stories that jews put out to the public about the holocaust was that the Germans made lampshades out of the skin of jews and they made soap out of the dead bodies of jews. Jews didn’t think far enough ahead to realize that those stories would be very easy to prove as being bullshit. So the lampshades at the camps were tested for human skin and there was none. Then the soap was tested for DNA and there was none. So those stories were dropped from the Hebrew agenda of the holocaust story. Then of course there is the claim of 6 million jews being gassed to death. That story stuck for a long time but it soon dawned on the unsuspected goyim that it couldn’t be true due to the lack of evidence. So then they dropped it down to 4 million jews being murdered. That didn’t stick either for the same reasons. Now they are claiming 1 million or whatever their bullshit numbers really are. The whole holocaust story can so easily be debunked and is being debunked so now as a last resort they are enforcing laws in many countries that if a person denies the holocaust they are to be arrested and imprisoned. It shows how desperate the jews are now to keep that story alive. But here are a few simple facts that when examined will show the holocaust to bs.

    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t553062/

  85. Art says:
    @animalogic

    A 90 year old woman must “serve a two-year-jail sentence for questioning the official narrative of the Jewish killings in World War II …”
    This is surreal. Liberal democracy (what’s left of it) down the rabbit hole. Imprisonment as a consequence of questioning history ? Yes, I know, Germany has its … sensitivities, but should historical guilt excuse a vicious assault on core values & a vulnerable individual ?

    The “six million lie” is coming home to roost. It is no longer shutting people up – it is making them mad.

    There is ZERO love for Jews and Israel among the German people. Fly an Israeli flag in a German city, and with hours it will disappear.

    Trump is killing the Iran nuke deal, he is forcing German business to halt sales and to knuckle under to US demands (i.e., Israeli demands). Even the Israel loving sycophant German politicians bristle over killing this nuke agreement.

    How long will it be before Germany joins Poland and Hungry in openly defying Jews. Sentiment is moving. Defiance is growing. It is more today then it was yesterday, and the same with the day before that.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope — Art

    • Agree: Druid, anarchyst
  86. Grumbler says:

    South Carolina passes a law that prevents criticism of Israel. Christian Conservative Constitutionalists are silent. The same Christian Conservative Constitutionalists that go ballistic whenever there is legislation proposed for protecting islam from criticism.

  87. L.K says:
    @Momus

    “Overwhelming evidence for the holocaust. For every denier there are a thousand witnesses.”

    pffffbuhahaHAHAHHAAHA

    Keep the jokes coming, hoaxter! You are clown without the makeup!

  88. Republican Party politician whores slavishly support Israel for the evangelical vote and the billionaire Jew loot.

    Millions of evangelical voters in the United States support the use of the US military as muscle to do the bidding of Israel in the Middle East and West Asia.

    Billionaire Jews such as Shelly Adelson pay the Republican Party politician whores big money to use the US military as muscle to fight wars on behalf of Israel in the Middle East and West Asia.

    The Jew-controlled Neo-Conservative faction in the Republican Party finds it remarkably easy to get the GOP politician whores to do what they want them to.

  89. anarchyst says:
    @Momus

    Not true…Israel would nt shoot down its own planes as they were busy attacking a U S ship. Israel was supposed to be our “friend”, you hasbara…

  90. Wally says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I guess that’s why you cannot refute what I post.
    I guess that’s why you dodge the specific challenges that I put to you.

    All you have are rants & childish emotionalism, not facts. But then, since when aren’t projecting Zionists completely unhinged?

    [MORE]

    I see that the thoroughly debunked Andrew Mathis is lurking about, so here are a few examples of him being hammered by knowledgeable Revisionists. I seriously doubt if you could do better.
    In fact, I note that your afraid to even try. We know why. http://www.codoh.com

    See the threads below where Andrew Mathis, aka: Thames Darwin has posted and utterly lost, some examples of the beat down:

    Alleged & laughable “mass graves” according to T. Darwin / Andrew Mathis

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9414

    ‘Andrew Mathis on Dachau, Majdanek, Auschwitz, Treblinka’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9228

    Mathis who also posts as ‘Thames Darwin’, gets shot down:
    Anecdotal evidence & “holocaust survivors”

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9238

    holocaust’ denial article by Andrew Mathis debunked here’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2816

    ‘Prof. Mc Nally dissects HHP’s Andrew Mathis’ bogus article’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=284

    ‘Holo. Hist. Proj.’s Andrew Mathis on Zyklon scent removal’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2499

    ‘Green, Mathis refuted / cyanide: lice, humans, & more’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=267

    ‘Believer org. spokesman, Andrew Mathis, demolished in debate’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=254

    ‘Holo. Hist. Proj.’s Andrew Mathis attempts damage control’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2498

    ‘Email from Andrew Mathis (The Holocaust History Project)’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1526

    ‘holocaust’ History Project to unveil section on Treblinka’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=280

    Industry’s Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11345

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  91. Art says:
    @Momus

    Get yourself along to the Yad Veshem Holocaust Memorial Center in Jerusalem.

    Hmm — where are the bones of six million?

    You cannot disappear all those bones.

    Six million is a lie! Gas chambers is a lie!

    The sad truth – the Jews have used those lies to spill blood – Shame shame!

    Think Peace — Maintain Hope — Art

  92. tac says:

    With each new desperate assertion in trying to tie Iran as the greatest threat to Israel’s existence and as the imminent threat to its survival in the region NetanYaHu is losing any remaining semblance of reality in his claims, the latest one being this:

    Benjamin Netanyahu has accused Iran of planting “very dangerous weapons” in Syria in a bid to threaten Israel.

    According to the prime minister, Iran is “seeking to plant very dangerous weapons in Syria … for the specific purpose of our [Israel’s] destruction.”

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201805081064245268-iran-weapon-syria-netanyahu/

    http://www.france24.com/en/20180508-netanyahu-accuses-iran-over-syria-aims

  93. schrub says:

    What we need is an accurate count of deaths in the concentration camps during world war two. Is that possible?

    Well, yes it is and the records already exist. These records came from an exhaustive study of the camps that was conducted by the Red Cross during a three year period 1945-1948 after the end of the war.

    What happened to these records? Here it gets quite curious. After the study concluded, access to these records became almost instantly cut off and for the next fifty or so years they were rumors that they were being kept under very heavy security in a warehouse near Red Cross headquarters in Geneva.

    Then, approximately twenty years ago the records were transferred to a warehouse in Bad Arolsen in Germany where they sit today, under even heavier security. Bad Arolsen is a rather curious place
    (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Arolsen) where numerous war records are stored (hidden) and are mostly inaccessible to the public. Needless to say, the security there rivals apparently exceeds that that of a plutonium factory.

    As far as I can tell, only a single hastily taken photograph of the final findings of this study has managed to reach the public. The number shown on this photograph is less than 300,000 deaths that had occurred there and this figure includes all camps, all ethnicities and all races.

    Is this photograph a simple forgery? We will never know until the Germans release the original Red Cross records.

    For those who don’t know, the Red Cross had total access to all German prison camps (including Auschwitz, Sobibor, and Treblinka) until mid to late 1944 when allied bombing made access to these camps more and more dangerous. Red Cross workers were free to speak to the prisoners in all areas of these camps during their visits and if the genocide going there the Red Cross would have certainly heard about it from the prisoners (which apparently, they didn’t).

    The Russians, on the other hand, didn’t allow the Red Cross to visit the camps they controlled. Neither did they allow food packages to be received by prisoners from relatives and aid groups as was allowed in the Red cross supervised German concentration camps.

    • Replies: @Momus
  94. tac says:

    Israel air strikes on Syrian positions in area South of Damascus:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-08/israeli-launches-air-strike-syrian-army-position-near-damascus#comment-11637467

    • Replies: @Momus
    , @Art
  95. anonomy says:

    It would be nice to see the Muslims and other foreigners out of our politics as well as our country. They have lobby groups too just for their special interests and to build nations and spread their religion that with the liberals help they get to do the Christians by force. I don’t want to live in their nations with them for a reason. I’m also sick of the Palestinians who come here to try and sucker us into fighting for them “over there”!
    Antiwar shouldn’t mean everyone but Israel.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  96. False Flag to end all false flags comin up!
    Not good!
    MAGA??? Pretty please!

  97. @Thomm

    Oh, aren’t you the clever one!

    Sowing confusion like a true rube. Keep it up; it’s a pleasure to see how transparent and weak you schmucks can be.

  98. @Momus

    The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

    UR is a place to experience at least occasional lucid intervals, not ludic ones but thanks for the laughs anyway.

  99. @Tyrion 2

    @Thomm
    Or, it could just be that Unz believes in Aristotle’s theory that adopting intellectual virtues is the best way to get to the truth.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_virtue

    Wait your saying if there are two explanations for something, the simpler one is usually better. That maybe it’s not a sophiscated 4D chess match. There should be a name for this concept, like Occam’s razor or something.

    • Agree: Tyrion 2
    • Replies: @anonymous
  100. @Anonymous

    Do you get bored writing the same column over and over?

    Boring?

    You don’t know boring until you’ve been subjected to wailing 25/8 about “the” laughable 6 million for decades and maybe even more than a century through every venue imaginable and some not, and a “holocaust” memorial on nearly every block in the country.

    Boring?

    You’d think the “high IQ” ones of the world’s only “chosen” super race could find something a little less boring than the continuous and mindless replay of the ludicrous, mendacious, hyperbolic and hysterical victim card.

    Bored?

    Get over it already.

    PS: Is someone forcing you to read his excellent columns?

  101. @Momus

    I have been to Auschwitz and other sites.

    So what? You think that confers some level of expertise or credibility? Wrong on both counts.

    I’ve never been to any of those places and intend to never go. Either way, I’d have a hard time believing anything you or the multitudes of other lying holocaust conspiracy theorists would say about it.

    • Replies: @Momus
  102. @Charles Pewitt

    Israel is a strategic liability…

    It’s unquestionably an existential threat to the rest of the world, in fact.

    • Agree: Che Guava
  103. Protecting all victim cult group’s extra-constitutional federal rights is their full time job.

    Israel’s Jews are just one of the victim cult groups that they protect.

    The US 2-party system is setup to protect the extra-constitutional rights of all victim cult groups, where democrats represent secular Judaism’s biases, and Republicans represent conservative-Zionist Judaism’s biases.

    [MORE]

    Feminist are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Male oppression
    Jewish are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Gentile oppression
    Queers are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Straight oppression
    Muslims are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Christian oppression
    Disabled are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Healthy oppression
    Afro-blacks are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed White oppression
    Latinos are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Gringo oppression
    Hispanics are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Gringo oppression
    Military Veterans are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Militia oppression
    Native Americans are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Paleface oppression
    Asians are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Occidental oppression
    International Socialist are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Local Government oppression
    SJW Crony Capitalist are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Honest Businessmen oppression
    Zionist-Neocons are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Anti-Fascist oppression

  104. El Dato says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Wow, double cheeseburger holocaust-denial crankery (the psychological need for this I will never understand) actually demaning “revisionism or STFU” (really!) and then extra-bacon ultra-weird anglo-saxon-puritanism crankery (I don’t understand the psychological need for this even less nor does it even make sense to me at all, I didn’t know the War of the Roses was going on in 21st century and anyway who gives a fuck) in the first post.

    What the fracking hell.

  105. iffen says:

    Indeed, it is far more plausible that Israel was involved in 9/11 than was Iran.

    My God, you just can’t help yourself, can you?

    • Replies: @gwynedd1
    , @iffenproofs
  106. El Dato says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Throwing weirdos into prison doesn’t mean the weirdos are right, it just means the laws are wrong.

    I think Aristotle had something to say about this.

  107. Momus says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Holocaust deniers are sanctioned because the diminution of a genocide causes great offense to most people.

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Bardon Kaldian
  108. @Wally

    You seem to just want to fling Jew bait. Why is that?

    I can post links too, you know.

    • Replies: @Wally
  109. Momus says:
    @tac

    They’re more likely Iranian missile positions. One at least was being prepared to fire.

  110. Momus says:
    @schrub

    Contact the mother ship immediately…

  111. Momus says:
    @gwynedd1

    You’re incoherent.

    • Replies: @gwynedd1
  112. Art says:
    @tac

    Israel air strikes on Syrian positions in area South of Damascus:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-08/israeli-launches-air-strike-syrian-army-position-near-damascus#comment-11637467

    tac,

    The stink and stench of untruth, on Trump’s words to Iran, had not even dissipated and Netanyahu was attacking Syria with bombs, and Iran with a new lie. He says Iran is moving WMD into Syria.

    How long are people going to continue to buy Trump’s virtue signaling that promotes and justifies confrontation? Sanctions hurt real people – not the elite. Truth – Trump and the Netanyahu Jews are begging for blood in the streets of Iran. Trump says that he wants to help the Iranian people – when he knows that Netanyahu has other plans. How long can Trump continue to pass on Netanyahu’s warmongering?

    1984 Jew Think – sanctions – starve people for peace! (Deny them Western medicine, food, and goods.)

    Think Peace —- Maintain Hope — Art

    p.s. The comments against Jews on ZeroHedge, make UR look mild.

    • Replies: @Realist
  113. gwynedd1 says:
    @iffen

    I don’t remember Iran trying to blow the crap out of a US navel vessel and then claiming it was a mistake.

    So uh yeah it is much more plausible because Israel gains enormously. And if Iran was dancing they did it as a declared enemy. Some of our declared friends were dancing.

  114. Wally says:
    @Momus

    Yes, we know that they claim to be ‘witnesses”, but are in fact, liars … for profit.

    The point being that what they actually say defies science or is in direct contradiction of other lies, they simply have not / cannot keep there stories straight.

    If so called “witnesse$’ are the thing, then witchcraft is an established fact.
    There are countless “witnesses” to witchcraft, complete with testimonies in courts of law, testimonies that were accepted by ‘great minds’ / governments worldwide, with ‘documents’.*

    Now, please give us the names of just THREE ‘holocaust’ “witnesses”. Tell us specifically what they said, when they said it, and where.
    And watch as I demolish your nonsense.

    If you cite an alleged document, then please show us the original.

    * Witchcraft documents:

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @utu
  115. Realist says:

    I agree with what Giraldi says. This is a huge problem, but again I ask who allows this???

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  116. Here in the United States, special Medicare coverage and immigration status have been granted, often concealed in other legislation, to benefit holocaust survivors and Russian Jews seeking to emigrate.

    Special laws benefiting them have long been the case.

    Swope, the non-goy was the author of the fascio-commie doctrine of government control of business, he was a supporter of Hitler via General Electric, and the author of the Swope Plan adopted by FDR as his New Deal program of centralized control of the economy.

    [A special bill to help Swope avoid payment of US income tax was] introduced into the house by Representatives Reed (Republican) and Keogh (Democrat) of New York was an amendment to section 2055 of the internal revenue code of 1945.

    … The bill was jumped over [“a log jam of 500 bills that had priority”] and passed both houses unanimously. There was still another obstacle. The secretary of the treasury, who had opposed the bill throughout, announced that he would advise the President to veto it. The veto could not be overridden because congress was in recess.“Tulin resorted to friends . . . (who) went to the White House. The amendment was signed and became law, Aug. 6, 1958.”
    -Dorothy Thompson, Special Law Passed for Zionist,The American Mercury, January 1959, pp. 135-136

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/AmMercury-1959jan-00135

    A lot of purported “survivors ” also get special tax treatment and special exemptions for obtaining other special benefits as well. Jews have claimed, that one of their grievances was that they were subjected to “special” treatment for being Jewish, but they’ve manged to turn that concept on its head for their benefit as well. Surprised?

    The United States Congress passed legislation in May 2001 exempting Holocaust survivors and their heirs from federal taxes on compensation and restitution payments received …
    The Claims Conference assisted Senator Peter Fitzgerald (R-IL) in drafting the legislation.

    http://www.claimscon.org/?url=tax_exemptions

    All Holocaust compensation and restitution payments are protected by 1994 federal legislation that excludes them from calculations relating to eligibility for federal benefits.

    The legislation (h.r. 1873 or public law 103-286) stated that payments made to individuals because of their status as victims of Nazi persecution are to be excluded from income and resources in determining both eligibility for and the amount of benefits or services to be provided under any Federal or federally assisted program which provides benefits or services based on need such as, but not limited to, Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income, food stamps and Federally subsidized Housing programs.

    http://www.claimscon.org/?url=payments_benefits

  117. Realist says:
    @Art

    How long are people going to continue to buy Trump’s virtue signaling that promotes and justifies confrontation?

    Too many Americans are really stupid and shallow.

    • Replies: @Art
  118. @iffen

    What iffen, you just fell off the turnip truck? Everybody knows there’s two kinds of Jew State Jews.

    Sneaky saboteur spy terrorist Jew,

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/12/mapping-911-fort-lee/

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/23/mapping-fort-lee-the-truth-behind-911/

    Or cowardly torturer Jew.

    https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/64._defendants_motion_to_compel_cia_depositions_2.14.17.pdf

    What is it with the nasal whining?

    • Replies: @iffen
  119. Wally says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    I see you have not / cannot refute what I post.
    Simple as that.

    http://www.codoh.com
    antisemtic: any thought or person that a Jew doesn’t like

    name calling: the last resort of the desperate

    - If there was ‘a plan to kill every Jew the Germans could get their hands on’ as alleged, then why are there countless numbers of so called “survivor$”?

    - If the alleged ‘holocaust’ was fact, then why are there laws in Europe to prevent scrutiny of it? What kind of “truth” needs to imprison people to prevent free speech?

    - If Jews are so sure that millions of Jews were murdered and dumped into alleged known, existing mass graves, then why do they ask such dumb questions like “what happened to them then?

    - After all, Jews say that ’6M Jews & 5M others’ went to huge mass graves, Jews claim to know the exact locations of these alleged enormous mass graves, yet Jews cannot show us the alleged massive human remains.

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  120. If one believes that deference to the special foreign interest of one powerful and wealthy segment of the population is appropriate in a democracy …

    PG, “democracy”?

    What democracy, sir, and when did it happen?

    As you noted, the plutarchs control us and the system was designed that way from the start.

  121. peterAUS says:
    @Realist

    Well, you are probably aware that going too deep into such questions isn’t productive, even advisable in public “blaboshpere”.

    Modern citizens live in one minute attention/focus span. That includes most of Internet personas too.
    Questions as yours are just…..uncomfortable.

    The problem->quick solution->done.

    Foreign policy->Dem Joos->done. (you could put any other group as per personal preference). Capitalists, Anglos, Protestants, WASPs etc.
    If you don’t want to blame any group, well, you go for Capitalism/Socialism/Christianity/whatever.

    Now, if you really want to know why the general populace does not care and why the people in power do act/behave that way, well…….getting those answers could prove………..tricky.

    In meantime, while some of us are seeking those answers The Machine grinds forward.
    The regime in Tehran just got one more thing to worry about.

    There is, apparently, certain inevitability in all this.

    We’ll see.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  122. Wally says:
    @Momus

    I’ve been to Disneyland and the evidence is overwhelming that Mickey Mouse is real.

    Tons of healthy Jews ‘extermination camp Auschwitz’ * at time of ‘liberation’:http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/PICS31/85600.jpg
    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where thousands of Jews chose to be left behind when the Germans left.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where most of the inmates, more thousands, chose to leave WITH the Germans.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where 1,250,000 human remains are supposedly buried, but no one can show us these remains.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where the absurdly alleged homicidal ‘gas chambers’ could not have worked as alleged, as proven repeatedly, scientifically.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where fake ‘gas chambers’ were “reconstructed” AFTER THE WAR.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where detailed aerial photos of the period show nothing that is alleged to have been happening.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where there are even obvious, laughable attempts to tamper with aerial photos that make a mockery of the fake storyline.
    see:
    ‘Auschwitz Aerial photos, tampered with to fit the fake story’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11669&p=87558

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where there were / are countless Jew “survivors”.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where so called “survivors” say the most impossible and conflicting things that do not hold up to scrutiny, would be laughed out of a legit court of law.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
  123. I, for the life of me cannot understand why any decent Jew or one with an IQ above that of a turnip, would support some of the most “anti-Semitic” nutcases ever to stink up the universe…

    “… Zionist leaders … made a point of displaying abysmal contempt for their Jewish brothers and sisters by actively participating in their extermination.”

    Rabbi Gedalya Liebermann – Australia, THE ROLE OF ZIONISM IN THE HOLOCAUST

    http://www.truetorahjews.org/lieberman

    [Zionists] took the liberty of telling the world that they represented World Jewry. Who appointed these individuals as leaders of the Jewish People?? It is no secret that these so-called “leaders” were ignoramuses when it came to Judaism. Atheists and racists too.

    Rabbi Gedalya Liebermann – Australia, THE ROLE OF ZIONISM IN THE HOLOCAUST

    http://www.truetorahjews.org/lieberman

  124. On this website, I was criticized months ago for stating that the First Amendment was threatened by Jewish-supported, pro-Israeli legislation that is now moving forward in America.

    I hope whoever had the chutzpah to lecture me and accuse me of not knowing what I was talking about will read — and fully understand the implications of — this article.

    I was also accused and lectured for stating that freedom of speech is limited by law with regard to Israel and Jewish subjects in Canada and Europe. The truth of what I stated in that case should be so self-evident to any knowledgeable person that I still do not need to prove my point. It is a fact.

  125. @Wally

    What would be the point? You’ll just repeat the same five things all over again.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  126. @Realist

    The USA is chosen to fight for a small country.
    Who is ruling the US?
    Which country has so much pressure and lobby-groups to control US-politics via media?
    For example if Russia would have the same possibilities….like AIPAC, media power, moneymen etc.
    What would happen if Iran does a similar USS Liberty thing?

    Funny to see, when Nethayahu speaks in front of the Congress, US-Politicians give a lot of standing ovations and those politicians who did not stand up fast were been critiziced for a “lack of motivation” from the media.

    • Replies: @Realist
  127. @anarchyst

    Interesting. I find that the events of WWII have little bearing on evaluating Israel’s behavior today.

    The most one would get from a dismissal of the persecution of the Jews during WWII would be a pass from the guilt mongering. But i would still contend Israel has a right to exist. i would still they have a right to self defense and i would still not support

    1. giving Israel a carte balnche’ pass for everything she does.

    2. I would still challenge Israel’s behavior of moving settlement — really mid-sized cities in territory
    she has no business in and i would still support

    3. a two state solution, a buyout or some other Palestinian agreed upon solution.

    4. still oppose US legislation making criticizing any foreign state a crime – that’s really bizarre.

    Holocaust or no holocaust just doesn’t enter into it.

  128. Iran being held liable under JASTA is an absolute travesty of justice. It would be comic if it wasn’t so outrageous.

    The one country that is clearly at fault in 9/11 is Saudi Arabia. See The 28 Pages. And it is more than likely that the Saudis operated in conjunction with elements within Israel and the United States.

  129. Rurik says:

    But i would still contend Israel has a right to exist. i would still they have a right to self defense

  130. @Momus

    There are TOO MANY HOLES in the official Holocaust story. Why would the Nazis transport Jews all the way to Auschwitz in Poland to kill them? Why use irritant cyanide gas (ZYKLON) when carbon monoxide from a badly ventilated stove would kill them painlessly in 15 minutes? Why were there 4.3 million survivors claiming compensation from Germany? Why did the Red Cross only give 272,000 as the total number of deaths in ALL the camps? Why was there a hospital, a pharmacy, a theatre, an orchestra, a choir, a library and a swimming pool and a soccer pitch at Auschwitz, in a death camp?

    There are no signs on wartime aerial photographs of the trainloads of coke that would have been required to incinerate millions of bodies? Why weren’t thousands of tons of ashes and bones ever found? The piles of bodies show emaciation typical of starvation and disease, things that would not have time to occur if people were being gassed on arrival. It was Typhus, dysentery and starvation that killed these people, because by 1944 allied bombing had destroyed the infrastructure of Germany.

    When there are so many inconsistencies in a scenario we SHOULD be skeptical.

    DOUBLE STANDARDS. The holocaust has been pounded into us for 70 years, but there is never a mention of the reign of terror conducted by the mainly Jewish Bolsheviks against the Russia people; 66 million dead (Solzhenitsyn). If most people knew about this it would stop the holier-than-thou-and-don’t-you-dare-criticize-us Jewish attitude. We are only allowed to say nice things about Jews. The story of the Holocaust was the main reason for the creation of Israel and the rise of Jewish Power, and we all, (but mostly the Palestinians), now have to live with the consequences of ethnocentric, racial supremacist and militaristic Jews subjugating the Palestinians and stealing their country, bit by bit.

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @ohmy
  131. renfro says:
    @Momus

    If you think your last holocaust was bad wait till you see the next one…..there’s definitely one in your future.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
    • Replies: @Kolo
  132. geokat62 says:

    Excerpt from latest instalment from Philip Weiss:

    Maybe Israel is interfering in our politics over the Iran Deal? Naaah!

    You’d think the press might turn attention on Israel. It has been interfering in our foreign policy on the Iran Deal for a long time. And it has lots of friends in the U.S. who are only too happy to push Netanyahu’s agenda, beginning with some of Trump’s biggest donors.

    But no one connects the dots. Israel’s interference is not a story.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/05/israel-interfering-politics/

  133. renfro says:

    TRUMP DUMPED THE IRAN AGREMENT

    From Col Pat Lang….

    ”Israel will now drive the US to war with Iran.”

    5314_Israeli%20flag%20-%20Templar1307

    “President Trump said Tuesday that the United States will withdraw from the landmark Iran nuclear agreement and re-impose sanctions on Tehran, a decision that angered allies who fear the prospect of a nuclear arms race in the heart of the Middle East.

    Declaring that “the decaying and the rotten structure” of the 2015 agreement does not block Iran from developing nuclear weapons, Trump said during a speech at the White House that “the Iran deal is defective at its core.”

    The decision drew criticism from Trump predecessor Barack Obama, who argued in a Facebook post that the deal is working and withdrawing from it is a serious mistake.

    “The United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East,” Obama said.” USA Today

    —————

    IMO Israel achieved a major victory today when the mentally limited US president, a man who cannot deal with complex phenomena, was herded by; the Israelis, their American Zionist allies and the chickenhawks now surrounding him across the goal line to withdrawal of the US from JCPOA.

    The imperialists (neocon faction) are SURE that Europe and Russia will kneel before the throne of Trump the First in his City on the Hill.

    The Israelis want the phantom menace of antisemitism crushed. The turn of Iran, Syria and Lebanon has now come for a “cleansing.” They want the Iranians made into a pastoral people who have no foreign policy at all.

    I am told that Israeli electronic counter-measure units started a massive jamming effort against air defense assets in Syria three days ago. Israeli ground forces on the Golan Front have been placed on high alert. IMO a false flag attack on Israel is likely. ”
    pl

    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
  134. utu says:
    @Wally

    Now, please give us the names of just THREE ‘holocaust’ “witnesses”. Tell us specifically what they said, when they said it, and where.

    And watch as I demolish your nonsense.

    Books by former Birkenau women inmates who spent living several years each in Birkenau just few hundreds of yards from crematories and the ramp where the transport were coming. Their books were published in Polish in 1945/1946 which later were translated in to many languages.

    Here are your three witnesses.

    Zofia Kossak, Seweryna Szmaglewska, Krystyna Zywulska

    The first two were Catholic and Zywulska was Jewish.

    They all describe gassing operation there which they knew from what they saw, from what other inmates told them and in some cases from what Sonderkommando told them.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Wally
    , @Grahamsno(G64)
  135. @JoaoAlfaiate

    Don’t forget they keep reelecting Israel worshipper and chickenhawk Lindsey Graham.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  136. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Like many, Butz’ book was the first revisionist book I read. It convinced me.

  137. Hunsdon says:
    @Momus

    The rule of law is, you say, sort of optional then?

    • Replies: @Momus
  138. And when there is definitive/credible support, I will certainly called for them to be held to account.

  139. lavoisier says: • Website
    @animalogic

    Pretty disgusting behavior from the modern day German Bolsheviks.

  140. @John Kirby

    Hi John Kirby,

    WOW!

    My deep gratitude for your clear & strong thought.

    The only thing I add, & assume you know, is the commonality which a majority of American citizens share with besieged Palestinians.

    Americans also underwent gradual “subjugation” (by Jewish Power) until our Exceptional-Homeland was cunningly transformed into the Skull & Bones ZUS.

    Thank you very much!

    • Agree: Z-man
  141. Jews are NOT Gods chosen people. Sorry Pence..

    ‘Marching to Zion’ Official Full Film – Youtube

  142. All y’all who are OCD about the camp-based unpleasantness of the 1940s really need to take a step back.

    I’m sure (since the source in unimpeachable) that everyone will be on board when the Red Sea Pedestrians seek compensation from Italy for the Vespasian Holocaust.

    For is it not written in Tractate Gittim 57b:

    this is the cry caused by the Emperor Vespasian who killed in the city of Bethar four hundred thousand myriads, or as some say, four thousand myriads

    Now to get a handle on how many people that is, we need go up a paragraph or twain, to establish that …

    “the Emperor Hadrian who killed in Alexandria of Egypt sixty myriads on sixty myriads, twice as many as went forth from Egypt(my emphasis)

    OK, so let’s see what 1 Egypt’s worth of Red Sea Pedestrians equals: there were “600,000 men on foot besides women and children” – according to another unimpeachable source… Exodus 12:37.

    Making some sensible demographic assumptions, e.g., a 50:50 sex ratio and a 20/80 child/adult split, gets us to 2×600,000×1.25 (2×600,000 gives us the total number of adults; mutliplying by 1.25 accounts for the kiddies)… 1,500,000 for those playing at home.

    Twice as many as that is 3 million.

    So we know that 120 myriads equals about 3 million people

    OK, so that is what 120 Myriads is.

    4 thousand myriads (the low estimate of the Vespasian Holocaust – the number promulgated by the Vespasian-Holocaust-Deniers) is 33⅓ times that – or bang-on 100 million people.

    4 hundred thousand myriads?

    That’s 100 billion people. 100 billion Jewish lives lost because of some Roman douchenozzle. In one city! The horror!

    How dare y’all bother the world with your lachrymose sentimentality – whether on behalf of the Red Sea Pedestrians of the 1940s, or on behalf of those trodden underfoot by laws against questioning the death toll of the time (or the means of despatch, or whether or not it was officially policy or was spread solely by super-secret pinkie-swear orders).

    For Yahweh’s sake – get your damn priorities right: 100 billion lives snuffed out, and no riveting first-person narratives survive.

    Now that’s grounds for reparations and compensation and what-not, surely?

    Anybody got any relatives who are prepared to declare that they were in Bethar at the time, but miraculously survived (eight or nine times) while being forced to fight a bear every single day?

    See, it’s shit like this that got me in trouble with the French authorities – well, that and the fact that I refer to their detention centres as ‘concentration camps’… I spent 2 weeks in one in 2008 and we had Duck Confit for dinner on Tuesdays – the Frogs refused to tell the Muzzies if it was halal, so I got to have about 6 cuisses each time. I put on 3kg.

    True story (the last paragraph is true anyhow).

  143. J. N. says:

    They (and their UK-NATO friends) will try to use the EU to attack Iran.

    “Taking Down” British Officials”

    Israel conspires against the Mother of Parliaments

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/taking-down-british-officials/

    “Gibraltar: The Real Reason for Brexit Finally Revealed”

    “So it is no surprise to now find that there was a military dimension to Brexit few had noticed. Brexit should not affect the UK’s membership of NATO or its network of operational agreements with other countries, as the Common European Defence Force is not yet a reality.”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/gibraltar-the-real-reason-for-brexit-finally-revealed/5632486

  144. As I write this comment pres. Trump has pulled out of the USA-Iran deal. The Jewish Neocons have triumphed, the conquest of America is blatant and undeniable, Once again the USA will go to war for greater Israel, the deplorable Christian goyim must go to fight and bleed for Zionist Israel while jews will remain unhurt, untouched, safely using the IDF to kill and massacre innocent UNarmed civilians and Palestinian children with chemicals weapons, snipers,etc. America will be involved in another endless war in the Middle East costing millions$$, much blood, and the consequences for the USA internal security will soon be evident. After canceling The USA/Iran deal the USA can NO longer be trusted to honor its contracts, its international treaties, why should NKorea trust the USA, India etc. The real power is the Zionist state of Israel not the White House, nor the USA Congress, not the people of the United States neither its constitution and related institutions. The Zio oligarchy financed by our tax money, corrupt financial mafias etc. The Democratic Constitutional Republic is dead, while the USA crumbles to the ground fiscally, economically, socially Israel will become the Technological universal global matrix capable to bring the world to a complete stop, the energy blood source of the world with nuclear capability aimed not only to the Muslim nations but targeting Wester Liberal (allied) nations. ALL of these thanks to isralei theft of American knowhow, industrial might, public taxes…America shall languished as Zio Israel murders, kills, bombs, its weaker neighbors…Can the jews vanquish the HUMAN (American puritan Christian) spirit thirst for truth, justice, the innate divine fire that burns deep into the human psyche/soul.???? can the JEWS become a prime target in every corner of the world??

    • Replies: @Rogue
  145. @gwynedd1

    While I think the thrust of your comment shows an admirable understanding of some key facts –
    ① even if there was not a specific policy to exterminate Jews, specifically using lethal gas, it is wrong to intern people solely because their peak global representatives ‘declared war’ on your nation; and
    ② internment in camps results in very large logistics failures if you’re at the end of a lost war.

    So the wrongness of the German government’s actions is absolutely clear: it doesn’t matter if only five people died, those deaths are the result of a deplorable and unconscionable set of acts and policies, even if the policies themselves were not explicitly focused on extermination.
    .

    However I gasped when I got to your characterisation of life in a German WWII POW camp.

    You’ve clearly absorbed some invalid tropes from somewhere.

    If Hogan’s Heroes is anything to go by – and since it is a riveting live-action account, it is unimpeachable as a source – life for the inhabitants of Luft Stalag 13 was characterised by a series of japes and zingers, often at the expense of a visiting General or SS Oberleutnant. There was no starvation – in fact often the inmates were able to sneak out to nearby towns hand have a nice sit-down meal with wine and cheese.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Wally
    , @gwynedd1
  146. Wally says:
    @utu

    No dodging, no weaseling out, utu

    Tell us exactly what they said. Not what you say they said.
    You don’t even give us the names of their “books”.

    Give us their own precise words as to this absurd “gassing operation”.

    Tell us how these alleged ‘gas chambers’ supposedly worked.
    Show us the alleged Auschwitz remains of 1,250,00o Jews.

    Tell us what court they made they statements in.
    Produce the verbatim court transcripts, complete with cross examination text.

    And of course, we supposedly have these liars who curiously were not killed in ‘death camp Auschwitz-Birkenau’, the alleged mass murdering Germans just left them live so they tell their alleged stories.

    Your fake witnesses claims are no different that witchcraft “witnesses”.

    Truly beyond hilarious.

    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
  147. Wally says:
    @utu

    Your weakly cited Zofia Kossak debunked here:

    Response to a Paper Historian
    By Robert Faurisson

    https://codoh.com/library/document/2148/?lang=en

    Your weakly cited Seweryna Szmaglewska debunked here:

    Alfred Wetzler and “The True Story of the Auschwitz Protocol”
    By Thomas Kues

    https://codoh.com/library/document/640/?lang=en

    Never heard of the other one, and do answer my challenges.

    http://www.codoh.com

  148. @El Dato

    Are you on drugs fucking incoherent idiot.

  149. Them Guys says:
    @anarchyst

    Yes I last year read an article with excerpts direct from the two jewish lezbo “professors” that invented this new Myth aka new scam swindle promotion and they stated that todays small 4-5 yr old jewy kiddies being reported to awaken from a sound sleep many night’s, and parents are horrified to learn from child that. Oy Vehy! Little 4-5 yr old shlomo has had another vivid dream nightmare of being forced into Gas chamber by evil Nazis and gassed to death!!……This the two fraudulent professor lezbo jews claim as…”Newly discovered…wait for it!….Memory-Genes!!!!!! and that ONLY jew kids inherit such memory genes due to the facts that….Jews are special, and Chozens and have much higher IQ’s so that all combines to create “jewish Only memory genes”.

    Of Course this is the main reason grandkids and great grandkids of not only actual camper-jews from wwii era, deserve reperations $$$$ Cashola fom Germany….But these two “Expert Psycho Bablers insist also that jew kiddies inherit memory genes from Other Unrealated jews that were wwii camp dead and camp survivors the kids never ever met or knew of nor heard of!!!

    Read it again folks!…Jew kids now inherit memory genes, from old dead jews UNrelated genitically and jews the kids never heard of etc!

    When asked to explain How its remotely possible?…Basically the two frauds dodged it and said something like…”Well due to Us jews is so special and gods chozens it is likely a Miracle from god that such memory gene inheritences ONLY apply to jews..”

    Just zero end to jew invented methods of scams eh.

    Now as to some more bible and jewish falsehoods…

    Virtually Every or close to every of todays pastors of the aprox 300,000 usa protestant et al pastors, preach and teach what 99.9% of jewry claims.

    That the wailers Wall usa congress and usa prez as well as jew males and rabbis wear a jew cap and Bang their Head against that wall…as being the last only remains of the jew 2nd Temple etc..

    Is 100% Total Falsehood since that Wailers Wall is all that remains of the Orig. Roman Fort Wall erected to protect Roman soldiers and citizens in Jerusalem from vicious riotous murdering violence jews kept doing to romans, back in and prior to christs days.

    That Roman Fort was called Fortress Antonias (or close to that).

    And Ironic how the same apostate preachers who teach it same as jews claim as all that’s left standing of 2nd temple etc….Also teach that Jesus’ Prophecy of warning jews there that EVERY stone in/of 2nd temple would be wrecked ruined and “Not a single stone be left standing Upon another stone once wrecked”

    The preachers All agree fully that Christ prophecy Was fulfilled as stated in 70 A.D.

    Ok so How is it that still standing Wall jews worship and pray to is remains of that temple if Christ was correct?

    Them jews and rabbis Pray to an Old Roman Fort Wall!…that has ZERO to do with any 2nd temple period…Just one more fraud claim to convince worlds goys to worship jewry and Israel by them self chozen wall/$$$/self-worshipers eh.

    What do foolish royally duped Christians and non Christians not as Yet Get?

    I feel like that Laughing Mexican and I aint even Mexican!

  150. @Wally

    Wally,

    It’s a fake cult with these people notice how they never reply to cold hard technical questions posed by us. They’re a bunch of true believers of this absurd fairy tale where 6 million were magically teleported to another parallel universe without leaving any trace. The greatest alien abduction story ever.

  151. @renfro

    Agree Trump is both intellectually and emotionally retarded a child controlled by the Jews. It’s out in the open America is owned by the Jews – the world knew it but never suspected the full extant of the control. It’s shameful that such a mighty nation is controlled by Jewish brain parasites. Really fucking shameful.

  152. RobinG says:
    @Kratoklastes

    The TV show was an exaggeration, of course, but there really were Hoganesque activities. My father was in an Oflag in Bavaria. No sit down wine & cheese, but there were passes (no need to sneak) to walk to the village and trade cigarettes or other Red Cross parcel items for fresh milk and eggs.

  153. Them Guys says:
    @Momus

    Is Momus really Elli May married to her brother Jethro from tv hillbillies?

    Or…Really that jew woman survivah who claimed she was able to get an accurate official count of how many jews got tossed into Ovens at her camp….Via the process of viewing and smelling the creamation oven chimney smoke?….She claims that it was possible due to when a jewish body alive or dead was turned to ash in 10-12 Min!….The chimney smoke she saw had a Different Color and smelled much Sweeter compared to smoke from goy gentile bodies!!!

    She was able to secretly sit near a door to her camps quarters with a tiny crack in doors wood so to view and smell that smoke as it wafted past her dorm!

    Hence she discovered jewish burned bodies give off a totally Different Color and Smell within the smoke emitted due to Oven burned bodies. Per her count Nazis tossed something like 200,000 jews into ovens per Month if I recall correct.

    Question that or her and off to hard time prisons for 3-5 yrs eh!

    My Other Favorite factual truth jew claim is that Nazis Made Soap from jewish body Fat!

    Jew sez: “OyVehy See Dat Pile in da ditch of dem 5000 dead jewish bodies…Dat weighs just 70 lbs due to Starvations and disease?…..Vell ders da Proof cuz dem evil Nazis used dem dead jews to make jew fat soap from”!

    Ok jew so tell us all….If dead jews starved down to only 70 Lbs….Where the fuck did that jew FAT come from eh?

    Oh and pray tell Us all…Just because a ditch contains 5000 or 2000 or any number dead bodies…..How can you be certain it is dead jews?….Did Nazis Stamp or Tatoo a huge “J” on their Ass or what?

    Question: If worlds Most skilled expert mass murder machine of Hitler & Nazis were so intent on eliminating every jew asap fast as can…and being meticulous detail freaks as germans were/are. Then why would they first give every jew a Haircut and brand New matching striped PJ’s to wear while standing in line awaiting their turn in the gas chamber? That gas chamber with a Reg house window in a side wall of chamber the Nazis Forgot to Lock and made it possible for, was it famed Eli Weazel (?) to escape being gassed 9- Times from ages 6yrs old to age 9 yrs old by holding his breath when gas poured out shower heads and dragging 150+ LB dead jew bodies over to below unlocked window where Small 6-to-9 yr old jewboy could then Climb Up piled dead bodies and escape Gas?

    • Replies: @Momus
  154. @Wally

    And of course, we supposedly have these liars who curiously were not killed in ‘death camp Auschwitz-Birkenau’, the alleged mass murdering Germans just left them live so they tell their alleged stories.

    Yes Yes Yes 6 trillion dead and 5 trillion survivors you can’t make this shit up, the most absurd lie ever told.

  155. Wally says:
    @Kratoklastes

    The Germans did only what the Allies did, and nothing that was not commonplace worldwide at the time.
    ex.: Recall the concentration camps for Japanese-Americans and those that died in them.

    ” it doesn’t matter if only five people died, those deaths are the result of a deplorable and unconscionable set of acts and policies, even if the policies themselves were not explicitly focused on extermination.”

    Absolutely wrong. Illegal Allied terror bombing & strafing of civilian transports prevented much needed medical & food supplies from reaching the German camps, not to mention the Allied air attacks on camps where the dead were blamed on the Germans, ex.: Nordhausen.
    Who started bombing civilians first:Germany or Great Britain

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8172

    And the numbers really do matter to Jews since the fake 6,000,ooo is an unhinged religious number that Jew have been lying about since at least 1823.
    The fake 6,000,000 number does matter. Jews promote the fake, but very specific, ’6,000,000′ nonstop, 24/7/365.
    It’s what supposedly makes fake Jew suffering ‘exceptional’ & ‘incomparable’ to other alleged ‘genocides.
    If anyone says ‘it doesn’t matter’, then tell them to say that to the ‘holocaus$t Industry’. Try going to many countries in Europe and saying that 6M were not killed, off to jail you go.
    You’re getting there, keep reading, keep asking questions.

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    Cheers.
    http://www.codoh.com

  156. @utu

    Books by former Birkenau women inmates

    Decisively prove that Birkenau the very epicenter of the alleged Shoah was not an extermination camp. Jesus we were led to believe that Hitler murdered every Jew he could lay his hands on and then we have these millions of survivors. How stupid have you to be to believe in this crap. Whatever happened to your bullshit detector?

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
  157. anonymous[721] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonomy

    By all means, deport them. Do it today.

    Then get your psycho-necrophiliac terrorist dads/sons off our lands, and in every perverse way you control those lands (starve, bomb, etc.). Deal?

    No? Then, white self-genocide is the solution, baby.

    I’m also sick of the Palestinians who come here to try and sucker us into fighting for them “over there”

    Er, what? You must be one of those IQ70 white trash I keep hearing about.

  158. anonymous[721] • Disclaimer says:
    @George Taylor

    Exactly!

    Now, let’s try and apply this to, Spirituality… Why? Because it still plays an important part in human civilisation.

    There are those on the one side, let’s call them the Pagan Polytheists, who state that God is this human-like figure, who presumably has human-like physiological characteristics (brain, heart,…), who then presumably has to go through a whole host of human-like experiences, like, ageing, hunger (if not, why eat, as pagan imagery shows?), which should lead to certain bodily functions, and most perplexing of all… Death!!

    Then there are the others, let’s call them the True Monotheists, who state that if you indeed believe in a Higher Being, that this Being cannot be anything but… One, Infinite, Unique. Certainly, no “human-like” ideological nonsense allowed anywhere near.

    Which definition of a Higher Being, satisfies this so-called, Occam’s razor?

    Of course, this argument should apply only to theists, so others…

  159. @Momus

    Holocaust deniers are sanctioned because the diminution of a genocide causes great offense to most people.

    No, it is because New left/globalist ideology has consecrated Jews as their sacred cows & hallowed them as their ideological backbone.

    Most people care only about their victims, Ukrainians for Ukrainians, Russians for Russians, Japanese for Japanese …and don’t give a hoot about others.

    • Replies: @Momus
  160. Rogue says:
    @Henry Thoreau

    Blocks of text are difficult to read.

    Use paragraphs.

  161. @Andrew E. Mathis

    You’ll just repeat the same five things all over again.

    Something wrong with that?

    You don’t know repetition until you’ve heard about “da poysekyooshun of de Chewz,” who are nevertheless, all high IQ and “Chosen,” and way superior to us dumb goyim.

    How many millenia have we all been subjected to that hysterical, mythological, palilalia?

  162. Momus says:
    @jacques sheete

    You are making the extraordinary claim by denying the holocaust.
    It is incumbent on you to demonstrate the veracity of what you say; not for anyone to ‘prove’ the holocaust.

  163. Momus says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Jews are a special case because of the relative numbers killed and because of their massively disproportionate contribution to the greater good of mankind.

    • LOL: renfro
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    , @Art
    , @Wally
  164. Momus says:
    @Hunsdon

    In extremis forgivably so.

  165. @Momus

    More Gypsies than Jews were killed re relative numbers; and, it is highly unlikely than most people would think that 20 million is somehow “less” than 5 million just because the first number represents lower percentage of the targeted group.

    As for contribution to the greater good, Germans (“Aryans”) have been even more massively represented in past 200 years, from Gauss & Beethoven to Diesel and Heisenberg, and nobody seems to care- much.

    The election of Jews to the special victim status is confluence of a few factors:

    * resurgence of Jewish ethnic nationalism after victories in 1967 war & dis-assimilation of Jews in the Western world. One should just compare the number of holo themed movies before & after 1967.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Holocaust_films

    * dominant influence of US culture & media after 1960s and, as a result, promotion of Jewish ethnic concerns & interests which are over-represented in American popular culture & media

    * dominance of New Left ideology in past few decades among Western socio-cultural elites, in the form which is known, rather clumsily, as “Cultural Marxism”. In practice, this ideology clearly demonizes everything white-European-male, and Jews, although not favored pets like blacks or Muslims or ugly women, get their extras as a historical non-European victim group. The chief enemy, according to this world-view, is any kind of white ethnic nationalism (Russian, French, German, Greek,..), while other nationalisms & ethnic animuses are generally applauded- especially if they’re anti- Euro-white-male.

    As an aside, there is an idolization of all kinds of minorities.

    • Replies: @gwynedd1
    , @Wally
  166. @Momus

    Here’s my problem. The consequences of the holocaust have not created a people sensitive to the plight of others. What happens as routine in Palestine is not the in any connected to the holocaust. The holocaust does not excuse excessive and illegal behavior by Israel. The use of the holocaust to cover abuse doesn’t garner much support. WWII is long and gone. I can certainly honor the holocaust dead and suffered, argue for such to never happen again and still hold Israel to account.

    If people want tie themselves in not arguing the holocaust, so be it. My concern is that my country is being asked to condone Israel’s behavior today.

    She has no business in Syria fomenting violence. And let’s not pretend Israel’s innocence here. That’s why discussions about the holocaust should be kept in their proper place. I reject the smoke screening. It’s like the person who gets arrested for stealing, using their skin color as a defense and the discrimination of the US — sure, the US has a history, but how that links to their stealing is another matter.

    I am keenly aware of the very thin threads that Jews have been making that the Arab world partnered with Germany in the holocaust.. And the reason they are making those claims is to justify abuse today. In fact, Israel and Jews love to have the discussions with those who challenge the Holocaust. That discussion, just fuels the smoke screening. And Jews love to blow up those small numbers as a global cause despite its irrelevance. By ballooning, you make anyone who challenges Israeli behavior into a denier and that — to silence critics. It’s dishonest, abusive, and a bold faced lie. But the fear of sanctioning is a very powerful persuader, save for people who have experienced sanction by Jews , by Israelis, by Muslims, by blacks, by whites, by their own . . .

    No sale.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  167. @Momus

    The expense that the US has paid Israel and continues to pay is compensation enough for her role in the holocaust — which is nil. And the sacrifice of millions of US citizens to that end is in my view more than just compensation.

    Israel had one mission — love the lord their God. And in so doing be a light unto the nations. Uhhh no, the law is not suspended because of the holocaust. The US can continue to bless Israel’s by defending her without supporting or condoning her violations of the law. If that is the suggestion, it’s over the top given 75 years out.

    This is not the world of ancient Egypt and Sumeria where land conquest is the means. In the US millions of christians scream about law and order and then proceed to toss it when it suits their desires, such seems to be the case with Israel. I am an absolute believer in the supernatural, which is why, I find christian who excuse everything Israel does as peculiar, because surely there;s a level of trust in providence to provide that Israel seems to be lacking and the same christians as well. And the idea that christians are subservient to the secular state of Israel — seems to me that christians instead would pressing for more christian like behavior from Israel for the sacrifices being made — starting with adhering to to the international law and participating as a member of the nations. In my view, she can retain her “special” condition and behave accordingly.

    But this is a discussion US citizens must have with each other. But in my view, even on a biblical level Israel’s behavior with regard to the laws in the region — your contend —

    By holocaust deniers you mean anyone like me who doesn’t bow to a carte balnche pass of Israeli behavior.

    No sale.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  168. j2 says:
    @Thomm

    Many people wonder similar things. Ron Unz and The Unz Review? Is there a black list being compiled somewhere? But finally it does not matter. Truth matters.

  169. Rurik says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    I agree

    Jewish supremacists use the Holocaust as “justification” for genocide, murder, oppression, theft, terror, torture, and cruelty.

    If the Nazis were trying to get Jews out of their lands, it’s because they considered the Jews living there to be an existential threat to their existence. Weimar is all the proof anyone needs of that.

    But at least the Nazis were trying to get Jews out of Christendom, which is the ancient homeland of European Gentiles, not Jews.

    Whereas Jewish supremacist Zionists are genociding Arabs out of ancient Arab lands.

    It’s not fair to Nazis to be compared to Zionist Jews, who so often are cruel for cruelty’s sake.

  170. RobinG says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Your partial sentence…

    But in my view, even on a biblical level Israel’s behavior with regard to the laws in the region — your contend —

    …Israel violates the Jewish Commandments by
    coveting,
    lying,
    stealing,
    murdering.

    There, finished it for you.

  171. @Rurik

    Rurik wrote insightfully:
    “Whereas Jewish supremacist Zionists are genociding Arabs out of ancient Arab lands.”

    Hi Rurik,

    I trust Ron Unz will allow the linking of Brother Nathaniel’s latest “Real Jew News” video (below) where a Q&A-clip features President Putin’s statesmanlike reason for Russia’s military support of President Assad’s country.

    (With keen sense of humor, Brother Nathanael ran an actual shot of Trump appearing to drag Macron forward with a doggie leash!)

    In contrast to Vladimir Putin, it’s stupefying to know how PreZident’s Trump and Macron are forever tethered to Israeli demands, leash.

    These flagrant imposters are banned from simply telling the truth that Israel wants to oust President Basher Assad’s government from Syria, install a Zionist Jew-friendly “authoritarian” dictatorship, and make way for the dawning of ancient Greater Israel.

    Thanks, Rurik.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  172. gwynedd1 says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Yeah sure. Decedents of African slaves in North America also think they got the worst if it when its quite the opposite. In the Caribbean they could not even breed them to survive. Double castration in the Middle East was genocidal. Few and none remained to speak for them. In the most gentile form of African slavery was the loudest voice.

    Know any Arians? How many Zoroastrians do you know? How are the Arawak doing lately? Basque and native Albania? Not many of those.

    And Armenia?

    “The helpless nation has seldom been permitted to enjoy the tranquillity of servitude. From the earliest period to the present hour, Armenia has been the theatre of perpetual war: the lands between Tauris and Erivan were dispeopled by the cruel policy of the Sophis; and myriads of Christian families were transplanted, to perish or to propagate in the distant provinces of Persia. Under the rod of oppression, the zeal of the Armenians is fervent and intrepid; they have often preferred the crown of martyrdom to the white turban of Mahomet;”
    -Gibbon

    Yes a large population of the Jews were left to ruin, but unlike many other groups, they were well diversified and have long been able to form powerful alliances, some of which resulted in this very consequence. The world Zionist allied with the British in WWI as we all ought to know. Jews have not been helpless for quite some time. They are playing high stakes politics which will result in losses.

    Your special victim hood status is denied. The World Wars were a disaster for many peoples. Keep in mind the Jews were unscathed relatively speaking in the first war. Europe took the brunt of them both.

    • Replies: @Anon
  173. @Momus

    You are making the extraordinary claim by denying the holocaust.

    There is no “The” holocaust. There are many that we never hear about while the one endlessly brayed about is evidently full of holes.

    It is incumbent on you to demonstrate the veracity of what you say; not for anyone to ‘prove’ the holocaust.

    I call BS on that. Elementary logic tells us that the onus probandi is on the one who makes the claim that something existed or happened so it’s up to you to substantiate your claims about “The” holocaust.

    Until then its only a figment of inveterate liars embellished by egocentric,sociopathic hysterics until it’s become a veritable religion in itself. A victimology cult. As such it’s as mockable and it is risible. It’s also highly irritating to have the mythology rammed in our faces 25/8/ 365 for decades, while it’s parent, the victim schtick has been around for millenia.

    Enough, already. Grow up and get with the program, please!

    • Replies: @Momus
    , @Zabastovshchitsa
  174. Do Jews or Israelis ever think of the ‘come down’ part of the law of physics that states ‘What goes up must come down’? Cuz we live on earth and not in space.

  175. Rurik says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Israel wants to oust President Basher Assad’s government from Syria, install a Zionist Jew-friendly “authoritarian” dictatorship,

    Hey Brother Chuck,

    I don’t think Israel wants Syria to be ruled by a dictatorship, as that would mean stability. And they want instability. They want for Syria to come apart at the seams, so obviously they can steal the Golan Heights, and also (very importantly) see the people of Syria descend into a virtual hell on earth, in exactly the same way Libya has descended into a hell on earth.

    They want to see the Syrian people suffer, just as they get off making the Palestinians suffer, just as they enjoy knowing the suffering they caused the people of Iraq. That is fundamental to their expression of the Jewish supremacist id; that if a nation (or individual- like that 90 year old woman) opposes the supremacist will of the Jewish people, that they will suffer. Like the Germans suffered, or the Russian suffered under their Bolshevik iron boot.

    Their collective id and identity is based on the divinity of the Jewish people, and all those who don’t bow down to them must be made to do so, or endure the wrath of their uniquely satanic capacity to hate.

    The Syrian people have refused to bow down, just as the Germans refused to bow down, just as the Iraqi people refused, and the Iranian people continue to be an affront to the Fiend, and refuse to get on their knees and worship the Jewish people as god on this earth, like the Christian Zionists do, and the American congress does, and the European politicians all do.

    If it’s good enough for Macron and the president of the ZUSA! then why does this Putin fellow think he’s immune!

    That segment with Putin in the video you posted, was beautiful.

    And demonstrated for all to see, exactly why ((they)) hate that man. Because what he said was the obvious, and glaring truth. The emperor has no clothes, and the criminal terrorists on the world’s stage are the ZUSA, NATO and the zio-Jewish supremacist banksters behind it all.

    God bless Putin, God bless Brother Nathanael, and God bless you too Chuck, and all the other people who have the decency of character and moral courage to resist this Fiend, that is determined to see this 21st century be as murderous and savage as the last one was.

    It was the zio-Fiend that orchestrated the Bolshevik, Soviet horrors in the last century, resulting in catastrophic wars that engulfed Europa, and left Germany and so many other places in ashes. And they love what they did, and they’d love to do it all over again.

    That’s why I call them the Fiend, because they love murder and horrors and suffering. They get off on causing suffering to others, it gives them infinite joy.

    And they’ve got their gnarled, twisted fingers gripped tight on the throat of mankind, demanding more and more and more wars, horrors, and suffering.

    I wonder if the chickens will ever come home to roost.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Kolo
    , @gwynedd1
    , @Momus
  176. Incitatus says:
    @anarchyst

    “I’ve been to Auschwitz, and, as an engineer, saw for myself the inconsistencies…”

    Engineer? Really?

    “…Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .”

    “Practicing engineering without a license” is not “an obscure Massachusetts “law”…never used before or since”. Such prosecution is routine. Three 2018 cases thus far:

    https://www.mass.gov/dpl-disciplinary-actions

    Previous years:

    http://www.mass.gov/ocabr/licensee/dpl-boards/en/massachusetts-board-of-registration-of.html

    The same is true in every state. You should know that. Are you really an engineer?

    “Leuchter signed a consent decree with the board, in which he stated that he was not and had never been registered as a professional engineer, despite having represented himself as one”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_A._Leuchter

    In other words, Fred lied and admitted it. True to form, he later said “Although the state’s licensing law has been in effect since 1940, there has been no record of any prosecution for this offense…”

    Another lie. How can anyone believe anything he says?

    Spamming obvious falsehood destroys your credibility.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  177. @Rurik

    I am referencing Israel as a state and her place. I am not an advocate of abolishing Israel or silencing or any manner engaging discriminating against Jews from the public square in the US or the international community.

    I cannot condone the actions of Nazi Germany. And by that I mean the entire Nazi agenda. I am not convinced that German Jews who served with due rigor in WWI to advance Germany’s goals suddenly turned on their fellows. I could be wrong, but German Jews did what they could to demonstrate their fealty to Germany and singling hem out for any reason was peculiar.

    And contrary to your comments, Christ wants Jews in the faith not out. So any attempt to purge Jews from a life with Christ is a fundamental contradiction to Christ himself.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @jacques sheete
  178. anarchyst says:
    @Incitatus

    I stand by my statements. Yes, I am an engineer–not a “professional engineer” but an electrical engineer that does not require permission from the state…
    Mr. Leuchter was harassed on the direction of those of the “tribe”.
    His “line of work” did not require a license or permission from the state. Are you aware that an engineer is anyone who designs equipment or has expertise in engineering work? There are many subspecialties of engineering, many people in those disciplines who do not hold engineering licenses. The “professional engineer” designation is for those who have passed testing in ALL engineering disciplines, mechanical, electrical, etc…nothing more. There is a big difference between the “professional engineering” discipline and those who practice subspecialties of engineering. Only the “professional engineer” designation requires licensure.
    Mr. Leuchter IS an electrical engineer in the specialty of execution machinery, regardless of license. There are very few engineers who have his expertise in that aspect of engineering.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  179. Kolo says:
    @Rurik

    Excellent post
    Thanks

  180. Rurik says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    I am not an advocate of abolishing Israel or silencing or any manner engaging discriminating against Jews from the public square in the US or the international community.

    straw man much?

    Did I say I was for abolishing Israel?

    Did I say I was for discriminating against Jews?

    No, I did not. So your hyperbolic leaps look like a dishonest attempt to mischaracterize my criticism of Israel with = ‘he wants to gas the Jews!’ he want to wipe Israel and the Jews off the map!

    Huh?

    What I want is peace, and respect for human dignity and self-determination. I want the Rule of Law, EliteComminc. Nowhere did I mention discriminating against Jews, although I would immediately prevent any dual citizens from occupying any positions of actual power or national influence in my country if I had the power to do so.

    I cannot condone the actions of Nazi Germany. And by that I mean the entire Nazi agenda.

    “entire Nazi agenda” eh?

    hmm.. one wonders, what exactly is that?

    As far as I can tell, what the Nazi agenda was, was a Germany for the German people. (horrors! I know, I know). And they wanted to determine their own destiny sans the hostile invaders who had used the betrayal of Germany at the end of the first world war to come in like carpet baggers and lord it over a broken and prostrate people, starved en masse by the actions of a fiend = Perfidious Albion and her rabid dog, the ((Wilson regime)).

    Hitler and the Nazis restored Germany to her former dignity, but then became arrogant, and the rest as they say, is history.

    But as to the “Nazi agenda”, I suppose what you mean are the lies we’re all told 24/7, huh?

    Like they wanted to exterminate all the Jews from the face of the planet = lie

    they wanted to invade and conquer the whole planet = lie

    they wanted to kill or enslave everyone who wasn’t blonde hair and blue eyed = lie

    they built homicidal gas chambers and made soap of their victims = lie

    they conducted bizarre experiments on Jews and sewed hands to where feet should be, and vice versa = lie

    they tossed babies from the back of lories onto bonfires = lie

    geysers of blood spurted from the graves of Jews = lie

    Hitler wanted war = lie

    Hitler and the German people considered the genocidal Bolshevik Fiend- that had taken over Russia by the ‘hair of the head’, and were genociding its most productive people by the millions in the most cruel ways imaginable though slow starvation, and had every intention of doing the exact same thing to Germany, unless the Nazis figured out a way to prevent them, which was what operation Barbarossa was all about = Truth

    So exactly what you mean by the “Nazi agenda” is curious.

    I am not convinced that German Jews who served with due rigor in WWI to advance Germany’s goals suddenly turned on their fellows.

    did I say they had?

    straw man much?

    German Jews did what they could to demonstrate their fealty to Germany and singling hem out for any reason was peculiar.

    did I ever say they didn’t?

    From what I understand, over a hundred thousand Jews served in the Wehrmacht in World War II. Which, if true, would make a mockery of the blood libel lie that the Nazis wanted to exterminate all the Jews’.

    Just like today, it wasn’t the typical Jewish tailor or dentist who was a threat to Germany, just as it’s not the typical Jewish dentist or businessman in America that is a threat to anyone. No Elite, those are just more hysterical lies from the fount of lies that are our media and so on.

    The truth is that there are a handful of very wealthy and powerful Jews, who- along with sinister Gentiles like Churchill and FDR, Bush, Blair, Clinton, Obama, May, Macron and now Donald J. Trump, conspire with these wealthy and powerful Jewish supremacist, Zionist interests to foist wars for fun and profit. The typical Jew is no more guilty than the typical WASP. Except in both cases though their craven and complicit silence.

    And contrary to your comments, Christ wants Jews in the faith not out.

    so you know what God Himself wants, eh?

    talk to Him recently did ya?

    So any attempt to purge Jews from a life with Christ is a fundamental contradiction to Christ himself.

    um.. dumb ass

    it’s the Jews themselves who’re purging themselves from a life with Christ, dumb ass. Not me.

    you’ve set up quite a lot of straw men there, but I must say, my having attempted to purge Jews from Christ, is the cake.

    Whoo boy.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  181. @Momus

    Nobody denied or denies that in WWII jews were persecuted, killed near their homes, deported, or died in concentration camps.
    The discussion is whether people were killed in large numbers in gas chambers, by the insecticide Zyklon B.
    This discussion is most extraordinary, because reading a few books gives, in my opinion, the answer to if there were or were not gas chambers for people.
    These books also explain why most people, that entered concentration camps, died after some six months.
    Gas chambers for delousing clothes by Zyklon B were all over E Europe in WWII, where typhoid is endemic, and lice carry the disease.
    Delousing clothes took an hour and a half, see the last mentioned book.

    Richard Overy, ‘Interrogations, the Nazi elite in Allied hands, 1945’, London 2001

    Elie Wiesel, ‘La Nuit’, 1958, 2007

    Léon Poliakov, ‘Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs’, 1951, 1974, Paris

    Arthur R. Butz, ´The hoax of the twentieth century, The case against the presumed extermination of European Jewry’, Costa Mesa CA, 1977, 1989

    Raul Hilberg, ‘The destruction of the European Jews’, student edition, Teaneck, 1985

    Paul Rassinier, ´Was ist Wahrheit ?, Die Juden und das Dritte Reich´, Leoni am Starnberger See, 7th printing, 1981 (Le véritable procès Eichmann ou les vainqueurs incorrigibles, 1963; The Real Eichmann Trial or the Incorrigible Victors. ISBN: 0911038485, 1983)

    Eugen Kogon, ‘Der SS-Staat, Das System der deutschen Konzentrationslager’, 1974, München

    J.G. Burg, Schuld und Schicksal, Europas Juden zwischen Henkern und Heuchlern, München, 1962

    Otto Weidinger, ´Kameraden bis zum Ende, Das SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 4 „Der Führer“, 1978, 2007, Dresden

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Wally
  182. Wally says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    said:
    “More Gypsies than Jews were killed re relative numbers”

    LOL
    Just like the absurd ’6M Jews’ lie, there is no proof that gypsies & homosexuals were ‘exterminated’ either.

    That canard is just an attempt by Jews to buy support for their laughable & impossible ’6M’

    And notice the dumb reference by Zionist ‘Bardon Kaldian’ to Wikipedia.
    Seriously? Laughable Zionist controlled Wikipedia?
    It’s amazing why anyone would cite Wikipedia as a reference for anything which Jews have a special interest in promoting. It’s rather like asking the wolf to guard the chicken coop.
    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    The fake ‘gypsies & homesexual canards obliterated here:

    Gypsies and Homosexuals in the Camps

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1894

    homosexuals – Yad Vashem …

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1930

    http://www.codoh.com

  183. @jilles dykstra

    … if there were or were not gas chambers for people.

    The Bolshies and their NKVD gassed people via carbon monoxide in vans.

    In typical fashion, the crimes of the Bolshies are downplayed or overlooked entirely, and they assigned their own crimes to their foes. Also, one would think that Jews were the only ones who suffered during wartime, when in fact their suffering was and continues to be blown out of proportion by the usual creative liars.

  184. Z-man says:
    @Sir Launcelot Canning

    You mean ‘Linda’ Graham. (Wry grin)

  185. RobinG says:
    @Rurik

    “Did I say I was for abolishing Israel? ….. No, I did not.”

    Too bad.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  186. @EliteCommInc.

    I cannot condone the actions of Nazi Germany. And by that I mean the entire Nazi agenda.

    Tell us about that agenda.

    I always thought they were anti-Bolshie and had to defend themselves in a very difficult time and in a very rough neighborhood.

    What would you have done with Reds raising Hell everywhere and the Bolshies committing hideous crimes at your back door for at least 15 years before yo got into power.

    I’d like to hear your opinion of the International Commie agenda and the agendas of the Red appeasers and suck-ups, FDR and Churchill.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  187. Nobody denied or denies that in WWII jews were persecuted, killed near their homes, deported, or died in concentration camps.

    Even if they were not persecuted, stories about it would have been invented. Very little persecution happened, I think, and if any did, you can bet it was exaggerated luridly. Reed says that the Nazis were primarily anti-Bolshie, and the story got twisted and morphed into their being “anti-Semitic” for obvious reasons.

    The following is a more likely scenario than the ones we’ve been propagandized into believing.

    The new [Jewish] prosperity was born in rearmament, and that was begun in the name of anti-Communism and anti-Semitism. Abyssinia, Spain and China have already shown that the new armaments race spells death, not for Jews, but for indiscriminate millions of helpless Gentiles, Africans, Chinese and whatnot. The profits from the armaments race will go largely into the pockets of Jews, because of their preponderant share in retail trade… Such is Hitler’s achievement in the cause of antiSemitism.
    I was talking one day to Z, a Jewish journalist expelled from Germany who has settled in Vienna, where he has a pleasant home and a motor car. He talked with bitter resentment of Germany. ‘Ah’, he complained, ‘the Poles murdered us, but the Germans have robbed us’, and it was quite clear from his tone which was the worse thing for him. Then he told me how his son was still working for a big German film company in Berlin and had thrice had his salary raised to induce him not to leave and emigrate, as he desired, wishing to join his father. The Jews. As I write, in Vienna, they are all about me, watching with non-committal, veiled, appraising eyes the comedy that is going on in Insanity Fair. They know that when Hitlerism has passed away they will still be trading in the Kärntnerstrasse.

    -Douglas Reed, Insanity Fair (1938), chapter 17

  188. Z-man says:

    With all this recalling of the Bolsheviks killing millions of Russians and other Slavs it amazes me that Putin even lets Netanyahu come into his country. He’s there now officially to commemorate the Soviet victory over Germany but ostensibly to tell Putin that he will attack Syria whenever he wants. Putin should tell him to take a flying leap.
    Israel is the problem, Palestine is the solution.

    • Replies: @gwynedd1
  189. Art says:
    @Momus

    Jews are a special case because of the relative numbers killed and because of their massively disproportionate contribution to the greater good of mankind.

    You mean like the contribution of communism – 100’s of millions of people lived poor unfree lives because of the ideas of the Jew – Marx. Millions died under the tyranny of the commies. Marx traded one yoke for an ever more crushing yoke.

    When it comes to knowledge of human affairs, Jews always get it wrong. They always see the dark side of humanity. They make laws to crush the bad – but it never works. The more laws that exist, the more dysfunctional the society is. Commie Russia and China had a million laws and regulations against freedom and human nature itself.

    The only way forward is to see the bright and productive side of the human spirit and to pursue that. The idealism of philosophical Christianity does that better than any other thought system.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope — Art

    • Agree: anarchyst
  190. gwynedd1 says:
    @Rurik

    My question is when will they stop coming home to roost? Judiasim is rather unique in a loathing for anything not in an inner circle as least to the degree of being so systematic. For there to be an inner circle there must be an outer circle. Jews end up in that outser circle all the time . There is an idea of endless cleansing..

    Romans 11 is an interesting chapter.

    “Lord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life”?[a] 4 But what does the divine response say to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal”

    Paul was a Jew with no particular love of other Jews.

    Nothing new:
    Zechariah 13
    “That two-thirds in it shall be cut off and die,
    But one–third shall be left in it:
    9
    I will bring the one–third through the fire,
    Will refine them as silver is refined,”
    And test them as gold is tested.”

    Jeremiah 24

    “The Lord showed me, and there were two baskets of figs set before the temple of the Lord, after Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon had carried away captive Jeconiah the son of Jehoiakim, king of Judah, and the princes of Judah with the craftsmen and smiths, from Jerusalem, and had brought them to Babylon. 2 One basket had very good figs, like the figs that are first ripe; and the other basket had very bad figs which could not be eaten, they were so bad. 3 Then the Lord said to me, “What do you see, Jeremiah?””

    Joseph was screwed by his brothers….etc

    Could be the desert religions needed to systematize the cyclical disasters .

    The question is will Judaism adhere to its “cleanse the bastards” roots or will it adhere to a Holocaust victim with gentiles in the outer circle only.

    I get the feeling that being surrounded by hostile Arabs might be the only thing keeping them safe from each other…

    But then that was not enough either:
    ” WHEN therefore Titus had marched over that desert which lies between Egypt and Syria, in the manner forementioned, he came to Cesarea, having resolved to set his forces in order at that place, before he began the war. Nay, indeed, while he was assisting his father at Alexandria, in settling that government which had been newly conferred upon them by God, it so happened that the sedition at Jerusalem was revived, and parted into three factions, and that one faction fought against the other; which partition in such evil cases may be said to be a good thing, and the effect of Divine justice. Now as to the attack the zealots made upon the people, and which I esteem the beginning of the city’s destruction, it hath been already explained after an accurate manner; as also whence it arose, and to how great a mischief it was increased. But for the present sedition, one should not mistake if he called it a sedition begotten by another sedition, and to be like a wild beast grown mad, which, for want of food from abroad, fell now upon eating its own flesh. ”
    -Josephus

    Christianity , a more tolerant, intolerant faith, but still seemed to inherent a good deal of the self loathing and intolerance. When there is a lot of something, like Pantheistic kinds of systems anything goes. When there is just one , then everyone must get it right. Those Nestorians and Gnostics were outer circle to Orthodoxy and the other way around.. And bad things are a coming too…end timer-ism…

    Islam is not safe from other Islamic sects just like Christians were more unsafe around other sects than they were the Turks or the Zoroastrians. Part of the reason the Eastern flank of the Byzantines was so weak was because of the sectarian Christian squabbles. Was Jesus flesh ? Did he have two wills or one etc .

    Judaism’s greatest plagues are its own false Messiahs like Jesus and Muhammad. Those are only the most famous. Sabbeteans and Frankists also joined the fun.

    I have little reason to think the cleansing will not continue among themselves.

  191. gwynedd1 says:
    @Z-man

    Jews can be blamed for their involvement with the Bolsheviks , but they got a lot of help from the minorities of the Russian empire, do in no small part to having very bad leadership in Russia. Russification of Finland was particularly stupid. They were quite loyal to the empire. I am all for pacification when the minority is hostile , dysfunctional and separatist. Russia liberalized too slowly and it cost them, especially since it was obvious they were under attack from Western powers.

  192. Rurik says:
    @RobinG

    “Did I say I was for abolishing Israel? ….. No, I did not.”

    Too bad.

    Israel is a reality on the ground. There are millions of Israelis there that have made a life for themselves, and I don’t know of any place that would be willing to take them, do you?

    now would I allow the Right of Return?

    absolutely!

    and many, many other things as well. Including massive reparations, and other things, that might not be popular with some Zionists, but I really don’t consider dismantling Israel as a realistic goal.

    Jews and Muslims and Christians lived in that land for centuries in relative harmony, before the rabid Jewish supremacist terrorists = Zionists started their rapine.

    Once that mentality is as repudiated as the Nazis were, and the most egregious war criminals hanged by the neck, then I believe that these people can return to a life of reconciliation and peace.

    Jews live in Iran and have for centuries in dignity and peace. Jews live in many places just fine, and get along just fine.

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @Z-man
    , @RobinG
  193. L.K says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    There were also “witnesses” to the several “gassings” the Syrian government has been accused of during the imposed war on Syria.

    “utu” must believe in those as well…

    Actually, ‘utu’ is merely a lying little troll, who is on record here at Unz stating that propaganda(lying) is ok if it advances one’s goals, as long as one can get away with it…

    The insect is virulently against holocau$t revisionism and has ridiculously tried to organize a ‘petition’ to get ‘wally’ banned from the Unz webzine.

    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
    , @Wally
  194. L.K says:
    @Rurik

    rurik: “now would I allow the Right of Return? absolutely!”

    That would mean the end of the Zionist entity as such, and a huge % of “israelis” would very much desire to immigrate, if the right of return was exercised, as it should be.

    As of now, without the large number of refugees in neighboring countries, there are already more Palestinians than Jews in ‘Israel’.

    Rurik: Jews live in Iran and have for centuries in dignity and peace. Jews live in many places just fine, and get along just fine.

    Right, sure… so, you would not object to many Jews from Israel moving to the ZUS, then, right? plenty of space there….

    The fact that Jews live in peace in Iran is largely because they do not really hold any real political power there…

    Anyway, ‘israel’ should really be dissolved, the Jews who desire to remain should be allowed to stay in Palestine and live as equals with the indigenous majority… the ones who don’t want that, should get the hell out…

    The problems re organized Jewry will continue to exist, but at least the risk of major war for the benefit of the zio entity would be removed.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @ChuckOrloski
    , @Rurik
    , @anon
  195. @jacques sheete

    Good grief,

    WWII was soley the fault of Austria and Germany pressing Serbia to give up those involved in an assassination — which in my view was fine, but Austria demanding to involved in state on that process — was never going to fly. In otherwords, they made demands they would not be granted or should have known and proceeded to make their case for war.

    During the war German and Austrian Jews fought as willingly and resolutely as other Germans and Austrians against the allied powers. The pretense that the Jews were responsible for Germany’s woes is based on a lot of tangential circumstantial evidence and it has been repeated here ad nauseum. The collapse of the economy had nothing to do with Jewish manipulation. The collapse was international, that Germany suffered more as the result of reparation demands is accurate. Most of Germany’s bankers were not Jews, nor did Jews have the final say in borrowing money from wall Street banks.

    The Nazis according to previous discussions on this matter actually used the Jews financiers to bankroll their rearmament campaign and other projects. Now that evidence was used as evidence that the Nazis did not persecute the Jews — in the exact same discussions in which the argument was posited that the Jews deserved what they got —

    Now I pointed that out the time but did not press it. But you cannot decry the contradictions in reasoning of others and excuse when its on your table made and delivered by the advocates against Judaism.

    ———————————–

    Now as I have made clear, getting side tracked on whether the Nazis and Germans killed 6 million or one million or even less is not consequential for me in discussing US support for Israel. Israel has US support, but that support should not be a blanket countenance of whatever Israel does or says and I will not be held hostage to guilt about the holocaust as an attempt to stop that discussion. Nor will I be held to Mount McKinley/Denali task of dismantling the holocaust in order to make a case that Israel should not be allowed to use US support as cover for violations of ethics or international law.

    Holding Israel to account does not require dismantling the holocaust. Now people of course are more than happy to give it a go. But that debate serves to cloud the matter at hand. And that matter is not the holocaust.

    • Replies: @Kolo
    , @jacques sheete
  196. L.K says:

    How False Flag Operations Are Carried Out Today
    By Philip Giraldi , April 30, 2018

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/04/phil-giraldi/how-false-flag-operations-are-carried-out-today/

    False Flag is a concept that goes back centuries. It was considered to be a legitimate ploy by the Greeks and Romans, where a military force would pretend to be friendly to get close to an enemy before dropping the pretense and raising its banners to reveal its own affiliation just before launching an attack. In the sea battles of the eighteenth century among Spain, France and Britain hoisting an enemy flag instead of one’s own to confuse the opponent was considered to be a legitimate ruse de guerre, but it was only “honorable” if one reverted to one’s own flag before engaging in combat.

    Today’s false flag operations are generally carried out by intelligence agencies and non-government actors including terrorist groups, but they are only considered successful if the true attribution of an action remains secret. There is nothing honorable about them as their intention is to blame an innocent party for something that it did not do. There has been a lot of such activity lately and it was interesting to learn by way of a leak that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has developed a capability to mimic the internet fingerprints of other foreign intelligence services. …

  197. Z-man says:
    @Rurik

    and many, many other things as well. Including massive reparations, and other things, that might not be popular with some Zionists, but I really don’t consider dismantling Israel as a realistic goal.

    Why not. One unified state with Palestinians and Israelis having one person one vote. With international oversight it could be done.
    The Arab world has grudgingly accepted a two state solution but the Zionists aren’t even giving up an inch of the West Bank, so other solutions must be used.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  198. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Hello Jilles, you curiously said:

    “Nobody denied or denies that in WWII jews were persecuted, killed near their homes, deported, or died in concentration camps.”

    Let’s not try the equally fake & impossible ‘holocaust-lite’. A common occurrence by those who just can’t stop bowing down, those who can’t quite deal with their cognitive dissonance.
    It’s rather like the dumb & illogical ‘it doesn’t matter if it was 6 or 6,000,000, there was a ‘holocaust’.’

    Jews were no more persecuted in WWII than Japanese-Americans or Christians in the USSR.

    Not sure what is meant by “killed near their homes”.

    Regards.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  199. RobinG says:
    @Rurik

    As soon as they have true equal rights, that will be dismantling, or abolishing Israel, as far as Zionists are concerned. Without Jewish superiority and exclusivity, it’s just not Israel.

    It’s no more unrealistic than the 2-state nonsense. It’s what NK campaign for. It may happen incrementally, over a long time. Or it may happen suddenly, surprise! It’s counterintuitive, but who knows, DJT may do it. My bet is on 2021. (The “Israelis” don’t have to go anywhere, unless they want to.)

    • Agree: Rurik
  200. Correction: WWI was soley the fault of Austria and Germany pressing Serbia to give up those involved in an assassination . . .

    The disaster that followed could have been averted but there is no question that Germany rounded up Jews and removed from their homes with a clear purpose as has been stated repeatedly here — “punishing them” as threats to Germany. And has been repeated here numerous times that punishment was for being a threat to Germany. When there is little to no evidence that German Jews were in any committed to destroying Germany, even if some small number of Jews elsewhere were and that I think is suspect — but punishing German Jews was not going to resolve that matter.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @renfro
    , @jacques sheete
  201. Wally says:
    @Momus

    You cannot be serious. WTF?

    You’re beyond indoctrinated.

    http://www.codoh.com

  202. Kolo says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Pathetic comment as usual

  203. RobinG says:
    @L.K

    “….the risk of major war for the benefit of the zio entity would be removed.”

    Exactly. If the Zionist entity were dissolved, the (((“Israelis”))) couldn’t whine about being wiped off the map. Maybe the émigrés will go to China. :)

    .

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  204. Art says:
    @Realist

    How long are people going to continue to buy Trump’s virtue signaling that promotes and justifies confrontation?

    Too many Americans are really stupid and shallow.

    To many intellectual Americans are coerced by the Jews.

    The Jews do not allow a real genuine peace movement to get started.

    All we need to attain peace, is a 10% movement among the intellectual elite.

    The Jew MSM will ignore and starve any such peace movement.

    The dark Jews will give NO air time to peace.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Realist
  205. Incitatus says:
    @anarchyst

    “Mr. Leuchter IS an electrical engineer…”

    Leuchter has a BA in history from BU. Does he also have a professional degree? What qualifies him as an engineer? Working in executions when states had few consulting requirements (other than killing the condemned)? Experience is great, but dead customers can’t rate Fred’s ‘expertise’.

    Seems likely states upgraded RFPs to require professional status. Typical in many disciples over the last fifty years. Fred could have partnered with a licensed engineer (common), but apparently didn’t. He lied. He lied again about the law never being enforced. Why?

    “His “line of work” did not require a license or permission from the state…”

    Then why did he admit “having represented himself as one”?

    Generally licenses are required in any work affecting public safety. Including electrical engineering. From the MA website:

    Engineers practice in many areas, including (but not limited to):
    • chemical
    • civil
    • environmental
    electrical
    • mechanical
    • structural
    • agricultural
    • aeronautical/aerospace
    • fire protection
    • manufacturing
    • industrial
    • nuclear
    • petroleum
    • safety

    https://www.mass.gov/orgs/board-of-registration-of-professional-engineers-and-land-surveyors

    People can’t represent themselves as such (as Fred did) unless they have a license and keep it current. Thus the action to which he pleaded guilty.

    “Mr. Leuchter was harassed on the direction of those of the “tribe”.”

    Jewish antipathy is hardly surprising, given Fred’s assertions and associations (e.g. Ernst ‘The Hitler We Loved and Why’ Zündel). Cats and dogs fighting again. But many are prosecuted for fraudulent unlicensed practice. Three so far this year in Massachusetts. Are they hounded by the “tribe”? Doubt it.

    Anarchyst, you’re welcome to your opinions. Disagree with most, but it doesn’t bother me. Knock yourself out. You’d have stronger spam if you cut out the bit about Fred alone being persecuted by a dormant statute, lack of license requirements and other bogus tearjerkers.

    Maybe Fred’s an expert, maybe not. One thing’s on the record: he’s a liar. Sorry.

    • Replies: @Wally
  206. Art says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    When there is little to no evidence that German Jews were in any committed to destroying Germany

    Hmm — so you are saying that pre WWII German Jews were not “Jews” – that they gave up their 2,000,000 year history of cultural parasitic appropriation of a country’s culture.

    Hmm – that is so hard to believe.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Are Jews committed to destroying America today.

    p.s. Clearly that is what they are doing.

    • Replies: @renfro
  207. @L.K

    L.K. wrote:. “The fact that Jews live in peace in Iran is largely because they do not really hold any real political power there…”

    Hi L.K.,

    Just want to add slight perspective to your thoughtful sentence, above.

    Some Orthodox Jews do not like Zionist global politics at all. Below is a video that I linked “Many Moons” ago to U.R. comment section. You will see Mr. Ahmadinejad exchange pleasantries & goodwill with rabbis.

    In addition, L.K., as the title of this article clearly focused upon ZUS Congress’s # 1 full-time job priority, I am a bit disappointed with comments (to date) that have yet to zero-in on PreZident Trump’s decision to betray the internationally popular JCOPA.

    We know exactly what is PreZident Trump’s # 1, “full time” job assignment, eh? And only billionaire elite & secular US Jews can say, “You’re fired, Donald!

    Thanks.

    • Replies: @L.K
  208. Rurik says:
    @L.K

    Right, sure… so, you would not object to many Jews from Israel moving to the ZUS, then, right? plenty of space there….

    I was thinking Brazil

    there’s a lot of space, it’s got good weather, and it’s already very diverse. A win / win all around?

    Anyway, ‘israel’ should really be dissolved, the Jews who desire to remain should be allowed to stay in Palestine and live as equals with the indigenous majority… the ones who don’t want that, should get the hell out…

    well this is just semantics then, as in what do we call the place?

    Rhodesia or Zimbabwe

    Personally I’d start by returning to the 1948 borders, Jerusalem under international control, and a Palestinian state in all the rest, with internationally administered relations.

    Removal of all nuclear weapons as a priority, and an immediate process for the Right of Return (or compensation) for all Arab refugees/victims of Zionist terrorism and theft.

    If eventually the division between the two nations melt away, and a harmony grows out of the ashes of the Likud, then all the better.

    I’m pretty sure Greasy Williams would be on board with that, if he were here.

    • Replies: @L.K
  209. @RobinG

    Maybe the émigrés will go to China.

    That would be a good thing as they would stand out like a sore thumb and all their mischief would be visible.

    Sadly they will go to Europe or come here to my backyard – as if we both don’t already have a massive jewish problem with their boots on our collective neck.

    There is no good solution for Israel and the rest of us.

  210. renfro says:
    @Art

    When there is little to no evidence that German Jews were in any committed to destroying Germany

    To The EliteCommit guy

    Perhaps you should do some goggling for reports and observations of the Jew pre WWII by many news reporters and government officials, emissaries and other travelers from the US, England, France, Belgium, etc.etc..
    In their reports and first hand observations you can see the effect of Jews in Germany.
    I would provide them but I am tired of trying to teach history to those not interested enough in it to do the real research.

  211. Rurik says:
    @Z-man

    The Arab world has grudgingly accepted a two state solution but the Zionists aren’t even giving up an inch of the West Bank, so other solutions must be used.

    a majority of American Jews were polled who supported the Saudi peace plan, basically going back to the 67 borders, but as you said, the uber-Zionists say no way.

  212. renfro says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    When there is little to no evidence that German Jews were in any committed to destroying Germany,

    Let me acquaint you with some facts.

    About 100,000 to 200,000 Jewish Bolsheviks fled to Germany from Russia—that is where Hitlers “dislike’ of Jews came from….Bolshevism. He feared they would start up Bolshevism in Germany.

    And they did ..or at least attempted to.

    There were two Jew led communist movements in Germany prior to the Jew clamp down…they included violence and murders. And in one instance their mob broke into the gov house declaring they were now in charge. One Jew leader was executed, the other escaped but was later found dead.

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @Momus
    , @jilles dykstra
  213. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    Incitatus, you just do not know what you are talking about.
    You’re in way over your head.
    Here are the facts:

    The Leuchter Report Vindicated
    A Response to J.-C. Pressac’s Critique

    By Paul Grubach

    https://codoh.com/library/document/988/?lang=en

    and:
    Kenneth Stern’s Critique of The Leuchter Report: A Critical Analysis
    By Daniel D. Desjardins

    https://codoh.com/library/document/708/?lang=en

    see tons more:

    https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=leuchter+

    Only liars demand censorship.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  214. Realist says:
    @Art

    To many intellectual Americans are coerced by the Jews.

    Americans are not coerced by Jews. Jews are only 2.2% of our population. Many Americans are out smarted by Jews. Jews buy our politicians and Americans allow it.

  215. @EliteCommInc.

    What are you trying to say? I think Kolo nailed it…

    This is totally off the wall, so I barely even skimmed the rest of your comment.:

    WWII was soley(sic) the fault of Austria and Germany pressing Serbia to give up those involved in an assassination

  216. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @L.K

    L.K. wrote:. “The fact that Jews live in peace in Iran is largely because they do not really hold any real political power there

    Lot of minorties in a lot of palces including here in USA/Canad do not hold powers

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  217. @EliteCommInc.

    Good grief…

    Correction: WWI was soley(sic) the fault of Austria and Germany pressing Serbia to give up those involved in an assassination . . .

    Your “correction” is as erroneous as the original, and people have long ago debunked that inanely superficial analysis including many who realized the foolishness of it, contemporaneously, even!

    A.J. Nock’s “The Myth of a Guilty Nation” is a classic and so is this.:

    To explain the causes of the war we must find the causes of the alliances of England, France and Russia against Germany.

    For the cause of the war is that alliance—that and nothing else. The defence of the Entente Cordiale is that it is an innocent pact of friendship, designed only to meet the threat of the Triple Alliance. [pg 6]But the answer to that is that whereas the Triple Alliance was formed thirty years ago, it has never declared war on anyone, while the Triple Entente before it is eight years old has involved Europe, America, Africa, and Asia in a world conflict. We must find the motive for England allying herself with France and Russia in an admittedly anti-German “understanding” …When that motive is apparent we shall realise who it was preferred war to peace and how impossible it is to hope for any certain peace ensuing from the victory of those who ensured an appeal to arms.

    -Roger Casement, The Crime Against Europe: A Possible Outcome of the War of 1914, p (1915)
    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14728/14728-h/14728-h.htm

    You may want to consider reading both of those works before you decide to parrot century old and very sappy, war propaganda.

    Here, chew on these.:

    Why, my fellow citizens, is there any man here or any woman, let me say is there any child here, who does not know that the seed of war in the modern world is industrial and commercial rivalry…and the reason why some nations went into the war against Germany was that they thought Germany would get the commercial advantage of them. The seed of the jealousy, the seed of the deep-seated hatred was hot, successful commercial and industrial rivalry…
    This war, in its inception was a commercial and industrial war. It was not a political war.
    -Woodrow Wilson, Address at the Coliseum in St. Louis, Missouri, September 5, 1919

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=117365

    [Lloyd George] said, “ The truth is that we have got our way. We have got most of the things we set out to get. If you had told the British people twelve months ago that they would have secured what they have, they would have laughed you to scorn. The German Navy has been handed over; the German mercantile shipping has been handed over, and the German colonies have been given up. One of our chief trade competitors has been most seriously crippled and our Allies are about to become her biggest creditors. That is no small achievement. In addition, we have destroyed the menace to our Indian possessions.”

    -David Lloyd George, as quoted in LORD RIDDELL’S INTIMATE DIARY OF THE PEACE CONFERENCE AND AFTER , 1918—1923, p 42 (diary entry of 30 March 1919).

    https://archive.org/stream/in.ernet.dli.2015.189747/2015.189747.Lord-Riddells-Intimate-Diary-Of-The-Peace-Conference-And-After_djvu.txt

    • Replies: @EliteComminc.
  218. @anon

    Half-in-bag, anon Agent # 228 wrote to L.K.:
    “Lot of minorties in a lot of palces including here in USA/Canad do not hold powers”

    Hi # 228,

    You’re hot on the trail above, but no doubt, & in synch with Phil Giraldi’s article topic, L.K. gets the larger point about a desperate need to question PreZident Donald Trump’s loyalty.

    Thanks.

  219. @Realist

    With zero relationship to The ZUS political power quotient, Realist wrote surrealistically: “Jews are only 2.2% of our population.”

    • Replies: @Realist
  220. @Realist

    Americans are not coerced by Jews. Jews are only 2.2% of our population. Many Americans are out smarted by Jews. Jews buy our politicians and Americans allow it.

    Unfortunately, you are incorrect when you say that Americans are not coerced by Jews. It is ironic that you would make such a statement under an article that is precisely about how Americans are coerced by Jews. What is criminalizing legitimate criticism of Israel, which is what the South Carolina law seems to do, if not coercion?

    Your four sentence statement seems rather contradictory. You state that “Jews are only 2.2% of our population” as evidence that Jews do not have the demographic numbers to coerce Americans. But then, in the same breadth, you admit that they “buy our politicians.” If they have the ability to buy our politicians, they have the ability to coerce us.

    There are numerous Jewish advocacy organizations in the US, all with budgets in the millions of dollars. Two percent of the US population is roughly 6 million plus individuals. That is not insignificant. And it is important to note that a small minority is capable of achieving quite a lot when it is united in action. It is precisely through these advocacy organizations that our politicians are not just bought, but also coerced, into pushing a pro-Israel agenda. https://russia-insider.com/en/list-us-pro-israel-pressure-groups-extraordinary-israel-lobby-list/ri23384

    I can tell you from personal experience: I am an intellectual who has been “coerced” by Jews. I have been ridiculed, slandered, blackmailed, and threatened with blacklisting for relatively mild criticism of Israel. I used to be involved to a substantial extent in anti-war activism, but today I largely stay silent due to the “coercion” from Jews that I have experienced firsthand. And I am not the only one. Yes, some Americans, such as Christian Zionists, “allow” Jews to control our political system. But most others do no such “allowing.” They know, instinctively, that they will be accused of “anti-semitism,” a potentially career-destroying accusation, if they say anything about it, and so keep silent. This is coercion.

  221. @jacques sheete

    this is old news news. the record is clear on what occurred in WWI which led to WWII.

    Germany was was responsible, all of the sidestepping won’t change who the aggressor was. NY sidestepping I mean the litany of reasons Germany felt they were justified for invading several states. Including that Poland attacked them first . . .

    But most damning in this parade is that Germany acknowledges her role as to segregating specific populations —

    whether you want to call it guilt, self responsibility, accountability — make no difference to me, it’s a very tough case when Germany essentially acknowledges that these incidents occurred. There may be some validity as to the magnitude challenge. I suggest you take it up with Germany.

    Nothing in my comments denies or challenges the international trade competitions. Nations have competed routinely and not gone to war. But suppose I granted that it was trade and not Germany’s desire to take out Russia and as strategic manuver to that end invade France in a first strike to prevent an effective alliance with Russia to block German ambitions.

    Bottom m line, Neutral Belgium denied Germany;s use of their territory for war and Germany violated that abstention — Germany;s resolve in using force to settle trading competitions, or siding with Austria on the Serbian issue or just seeking an opportunity to do in Russia — that’s the cause for aggression. The contention that every trade dispute is cause for war — nonsense.

    ——————————-

    Your canard to use a victory speech as evidence for a war begun by Germany is bizarre. Of course they got their way — Germany and Austria lost the war. In we won and now we can rule the seas minus Germany — Maybe Germany should have considered that when they had the upper hand in shipping. I am not contending that the Allied powers were not abusive and their abuse contributed to WWII.

    The fact, is that hostilities commenced with Germany’s actions, and German Jews were as eager as any to advance Germany’s ambitions and demonstrated it on the battlefield.

  222. Momus says:
    @Them Guys

    Reducing your medication is my advise.

    • Replies: @Kolo
  223. L.K says:
    @Mario Partisan

    Mario Partisan to ‘realist??’

    Unfortunately, you are incorrect when you say that Americans are not coerced by Jews. It is ironic that you would make such a statement under an article that is precisely about how Americans are coerced by Jews.

    Very well said, your entire post.
    A bit ironic too that such an obvious preposterous statement(Americans are not coerced by Jews) comes from somebody who has picked the handle ‘realist’…

  224. L.K says:
    @Rurik

    Rurik:

    Brazil… there’s a lot of space, it’s got good weather, and it’s already very diverse. A win / win all around?

    All items available in the ZUS, space, good weather, lotsa diversity… plus, possibly the largest Jew community on earth! No way of knowing for sure, but there is a chance it could be as large or larger than the one in IsraHell…

    But, in the end, it does not matter at all where you( or me) would like the Israeli Jews to move to…
    Push comes to shove, if the zio project fails, Israeli Jews, particularly the Ashkenazi, would choose to move to, in the following order:
    1. ZUSA( and Canada… that ZUS outpost…)
    2. A few select European countries,… and Germany , very unfortunately, would probably be one of them…
    3. Russia( lots of russian joos in israel) and a few other locations, such as Ukraine, some perhaps ending up in Argentina, Brazil, etc…

    The rest of your post is simply more fantasy…

  225. NEW YORK B.W.HUEBSCH, INC. MCMXXII

    COPYRIGHT, 1922, BY
    THE FREEMAN, INC.
    COPYRIGHT, 1922, BY
    B. W. HUEBSCH, INC.

    [MORE]

    PRINTED IN U. S. A.

    PREFACE

    This book is made up of a series of articles originally published in the Freeman. It was compiled to establish one point and only one, namely: that the German Government was not solely guilty of bringing on the war. I have not been at all concerned with measuring the German Government’s share of guilt, with trying to show that it was either great or small, or that it was either less or more than that of any other Government or association of Governments. All this is beside the point. I do not by any means wish to escape the responsibility of saying that I think the German Government’s share of guilt in the matter is extremely small; so small by comparison with that of the major Powers allied against Germany, as to be inconsiderable. That is my belief, demonstrable as I think by such evidence as has now become available to any candid person. But this has nothing whatever to do with the subject-matter of this volume. If the guilt of the German Government could be proved to be ten times greater than it was represented to be by the publicity-bureaux of the Allied Powers, the conclusion established in the following chapters would still remain. Guilty as the German Government may have been; multiply by ten any estimate that any person, interested or disinterested, informed or uninformed, may put upon its guilt; the fact remains that it was far, very far indeed, from being the only guilty party concerned.

    If there were no practical end to be gained by establishing this conclusion, if one’s purpose were only to give the German Government the dubious vindication of a tu quoque, the effort would be hardly worth making. But as I say at the outset, there is at stake an extremely important matter, one that will unfavourably affect the peace of the world for at least a generation—the treaty of Versailles. If the German Government may not be assumed to be solely responsible for the war, this treaty is indefensible; for it is constructed wholly upon that assumption. It becomes, not a treaty, but a verdict pronounced after the manner of Brennus, by a superior power which, without regard to justice, arrogates to itself the functions of prosecutor, jury and judge.
    ——————————–

    What he says clearly is that Germany is not soley responsible based on the the competition for resources. He does not say that Germany is not responsible, not does he venture to measure the level of guilt, because his focus on the grand stresses associated with competition over resources. You have been mightily abusing the intent of the work you cite — as clearly indicated in the preface.

    Of particular note:

    “If there were no practical end to be gained by establishing this conclusion, if one’s purpose were only to give the German Government the dubious vindication of a tu quoque, the effort would be hardly worth making. But as I say at the outset, there is at stake an extremely important matter, one that will unfavourably affect the peace of the world for at least a generation—the treaty of Versailles”

    Which he says merely flipping the guilt on the allied powers was not his intent. He is concerned about the fairness and the impact of the Versailles agreement as he leans that it is overly burdensome on Germany.

    “The present course of events in Europe is impressing on us once more the truth that military victory, if it is to stand, must also be demonstrably a victory for justice. In the long run, victory must appeal to the sense of justice in the conquered no less than in the conquerors, if it is to be effective. There is no way of getting around this. Mr. Gilbert K. Chesterton is right when he says that if the South had not finally accepted the outcome of the Civil War as being on the whole just, Lincoln would have been wrong in trying to preserve the Union; which is only another way of expressing Lincoln’s own homely saying that nothing is ever really settled until it is settled right. The present condition of Europe is largely due to the fact that the official peacemakers have not taken into their reckoning the German people’s sense of justice. Their mistake—it was also Mr. Wilson’s great mistake—was in their disregard of what Bismarck called the imponderabilia. The terms of the peace treaty plainly reflect this mistake. That is largely the reason why the treaty is to-day inoperative and worthless. That is largely why the Governments of Europe are confronted with the inescapable alternative: they can either tear up the treaty and replace it by an understanding based on justice, or they can stick to the treaty and by so doing protract indefinitely the dismal succession of wars, revolutions, bankruptcies and commercial dislocations that the treaty inaugurated”

    Context matters . . . I have not read the entire book, but where its headed is clear — than injustice will most likely lead to further conflict. It is not about Germany’s culpability, but what constitutes fair and just response to the loss.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  226. Meimou says:
    @Momus

    I’ve read and listened to David Irving before he was booted from my country and tried to follow the threads of other denier arguments. For every question raised there is a deafening thunder of answers and evidence refuting it.

    Feel free to give us evidence of mass graves anytime pal.

    Any explanation of how the Nazis could kill millions without the Allies knowing about it would be good as well.

    • Replies: @Momus
  227. L.K says:
    @renfro

    From a very mainstream source:

    “There has been a tendency to circumvent or simply ignore the significant role of Jewish intellectuals in the German Communist Party, and thereby seriously neglect one of the genuine and objective reasons for increased anti-Semitism during and after World War 1… The prominence of Jews in the revolution and early Weimar Republic is indisputable, and this was a very serious contributing cause for increased anti-Semitism in post-war years.. It is clear then that the stereotype of Jews as socialists and communists… led many Germans to distrust the Jewish minority as a whole and to brand Jews as enemies of the German nation.”

    Sarah Gordon, “Hitler, Germans and the ‘Jewish Question’”, Princeton University Press (1984) p 23.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @jacques sheete
  228. @L.K

    The insect is virulently against holocau$t revisionism and has ridiculously tried to organize a ‘petition’ to get ‘wally’ banned from the Unz webzine.

    The White nationalist movement should be very careful about Jewish infiltration, they are masters at the art of subversion.

    • Replies: @L.K
  229. L.K says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Hey Chuck,
    Chuck:

    Some Orthodox Jews do not like Zionist global politics at all.

    True that, but they are few and powerless.

    Chuck:

    In addition, L.K., as the title of this article clearly focused upon ZUS Congress’s # 1 full-time job priority, I am a bit disappointed with comments (to date) that have yet to zero-in on PreZident Trump’s decision to betray the internationally popular JCOPA.

    True. But if anything, this is one of the few campaign promises the orange imbecile has NOT betrayed… I remember he was always talking sh*t about the deal & how horrible it was, nieh, nieh…

    B, a retired German army officer, wrote a good piece about this:

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/05/trump-ends-the-nuclear-deal-with-iran-whats-next.html

    Trump Ends The Nuclear Deal With Iran – What’s Next?

    With a very belligerent speech Trump nixed the nuclear deal with Iran. He also lied a lot in it. Neither is a surprise. The United States only keeps agreements as long as they are to its short term advantage – just ask native Americans. One can never count on the U.S. to keep its word.

    Trump will reimpose U.S. sanctions on Iran because:

    .The nuclear deal was negotiated by the Obama administration and thus must be bad;
    .Israel wants to keep Iran as the boogeyman;
    .the Zionists and right wing nuts in the U.S. want the U.S. to attack Iran;
    .MAGA – Trump needs Iran as enemy of the Gulf states to sell more U.S. weapons.

    Three European countries, Britain, France and Germany, were naive enough to think they could prevent this. The EU3 offered the U.S. to put additional sanctions on Iran for other pretended reason – ballistic missiles and the Iranian engagement in Syria. I was disgusted when I first read of the plan. It was obvious from the beginning that it would only discredit these countries AND fail.

    Luckily Italy and some eastern European countries shot the effort down at the EU level. They were not willing to sacrifice their credibility over the issue. The nuclear agreement was signed and should be followed by all sides. They pointed out that there was no guarantee from Trump that any additional European effort would change his view.[...]

    Best wishes

  230. @EliteCommInc.

    In addition he is not referring to the historical facts for the war, but rather the rhetoric used by the winners to justify their abusive “imputations”.

    And upon reading further, his analysis has serious flaws, he makes an argument but doesn’t explain how that supports his contend. For example, he notes that according to the record Germany was decreasing its defenses — but that is a so what, the fact remains that Germany initiated the attacks. Further,more, he makes contends that said alliances were well under way before — against that is a so what — those allied powers did not initiate attacks on Germany or Austria . . .

    Unfortunately, no definitive response to his material is in print. But his advocacy for leniency is fine, but his contentions why there’s plenty of guilt to go around is a tad weak.

    For my part I am looking at actions, not curious ambiguous speculative relationships between states.

  231. Wally says:
    @L.K

    said:
    “The insect is virulently against holocau$t revisionism and has ridiculously tried to organize a ‘petition’ to get ‘wally’ banned from the Unz webzine.”

    That certainly tells me I’m / we’re getting through big time.

    It also tells me that ‘utu’ has no answer for what I post other than name calling and demands for censorship.
    A review of his posts absolutely proves that.
    This says it all:

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged supremacist Jews demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.
    Only liars demand censorship.

    Revisionists are just the messengers, the impossibility of the stupid ‘holocaust’ storyline is the message.

    http://www.codoh.com

  232. Wally says:
    @L.K

    Not sure they should be called “intellectuals”, thugs is more like it. But then the author was a Sarah Gordon.

  233. Momus says:
    @Rurik

    Assad, with Iranian help is dismembering Syria.

    Israel’s’ humanitarian work there on the border is widely welcomed.

    It is not in Israel’s or anyone else’s interests to have another failed state or Iranian proxy

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @NoseytheDuke
  234. Momus says:
    @Meimou

    Google for properly cited references to hundreds of mass graves through out Europe mate.

    That the allies were well aware of goings on is understood.

    You obviously know not of what you talk.

    • Replies: @Meimou
  235. Wally says:
    @Momus

    “Get yourself along to the Yad Veshem Holocaust Memorial Center in Jerusalem. I guarantee your point of view will shift 180 degrees.”

    Really?
    What’s there that proves the fake ’6M Jews’?

    Hell, I’ve been to Disneyland too and I still don’t believe Mickey Mouse & Donald Duck are real.

    Speaking of how these ‘mu$eums’ work:

    U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum displays standard German air-raid shelter door, describing it as the door to a gas chamber at Majdanek
    By David Thomas

    http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DT/gcturen.html

    and:
    ‘NEWS! Wiesenthal Ctr. ‘Mu$eum’ caught faking ‘gas vans’! ‘

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8534

    and:
    ‘German popular magazine bomb shelter ads debunk ‘peepholes’ & ‘gas tight doors’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=610

    and:
    ‘Fake Photographs of the Einsatzgruppen murdering Jews’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11179

    Just to list a few.

    For more, search fake photos at http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Momus
    , @Meimou
  236. Momus says:
    @renfro

    About 100,000 to 200,000 Jewish Bolsheviks fled to Germany from Russia—that is where Hitlers “dislike’ of Jews came from….Bolshevism. He feared they would start up Bolshevism in Germany.”

    Cites for this please.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  237. Wally says:
    @Mario Partisan

    “Jews are only 2.2% of our population.”

    Another load of self serving BS.

    The alleged number of Jews is complete nonsense . There are many, many more then they let on.

    Most Jews are not ‘religious’ so they do not say they are Jews in census questions about religion. They consider themselves Jews nonetheless. They want you to think they are so few & helpless victims when in fact they create massive resentment towards themselves by their owns actions.

    According to Jewish law Jews are to avoid being counted.

    “To actually count Jews directly is forbidden (Talmud, Yoma 22b), as the prophet says: “And the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which shall neither be measured nor counted.”

    http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/896203/jewish/Laws-of-Counting-Jews.htm

    and:

    ‘Why is it forbidden to count Jews?’

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/18472

    “This opening verse of our Biblical portion teaches that it is forbidden to take a number count of the Israelites, a census activity which Jewish organizations are constantly involved in doing. This prohibition is reinforced by the prophet Hosea (chapter 2), when he declares: “The number of the children of Israel shall be as the sands of the sea, which cannot be numbered and cannot be counted…” And historically even King David learned the bitter lesson of the power of this command, when- against the will of his Chief Commander Joab – he ordered a census, and the Israelites suffered a plague (II Samuel, 24). “

    and:

    “We reached the [Balfour] Declaration not by miracles, but through persistent propaganda, through unceasing demonstration of the life force of our people. We told the responsible authorities: We will establish ourselves in Palestine whether you like it or not. You can hasten our arrival or you can equally retard it. It is however better for you to help us so as to avoid our constructive powers being turned into a destructive power which will overthrow the world.”
    - World Zionist leader [1st President of Israel] Chaim Weizmann, speech in Jerusalem, December 1919.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  238. Momus says:
    @jacques sheete

    The holocaust has been proven to the satisfaction of a vast percentage of the worlds population. You are out there Jim Jonesing with moon landing, spherical earth and Hiroshima deniers.

  239. @EliteComminc.

    WWI was the effort by the British to destroy an economic competitor.
    Made in Germany had the opposite effect, more German products were bought in Britain, and less British.
    Despite Versailles Hitler resurrected Germany, once more war.
    This time Great Britain disappeared.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  240. @renfro

    Jewry declared war on Germany in 1933

  241. @Wally

    Poles and Lithuanians killed their jewish neighbours.
    Dan Jacobson, ‘Heschel’s Rijk, Familiekroniek’, Amsterdam, 1998
    describes the massacres perpetrated in Lithuania before the Germans were there.
    Jan T. Gross, ‘Neighbours, The Destruction of the Jewish Community in Jedwabne, Poland, 1941’, 2003, London
    Christopher R. Browning, ‘Ordinary Men, Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland’, 1992, 2001, London
    The last book even has pictures of jews being beaten to death in Kaunas, Lithuania.
    As to jews no more persecuted, the Netherlands had in 1940 some 120.000 jews, 20.000 of these recent refugees.
    The 20.000 most went into hiding, and survived.
    The 100.000 were deported, some 5000 returned.
    These are exact figures, the Dutch register of inhabitants did mention religion.
    In Polandn for example, the facts are hardly known, also because there was no real definition of what was a jew.

    • Replies: @Wally
  242. Realist says:
    @Mario Partisan

    Your four sentence statement seems rather contradictory. You state that “Jews are only 2.2% of our population” as evidence that Jews do not have the demographic numbers to coerce Americans. But then, in the same breadth, you admit that they “buy our politicians.” If they have the ability to buy our politicians, they have the ability to coerce us.

    Jews don’t coerce Americans they out smart them, they are wealthier than the vast majority of Americans. Some Jews are immoral, corrupt and devious for taking advantage of Americans. But why do Americans allow Jews to do that??? Why do Americans elect Jewish sycophants???

    Yes, some Americans, such as Christian Zionists, “allow” Jews to control our political system. But most others do no such “allowing.”

    REALLY then how do Jews do it???

    • Replies: @Mario Partisan
    , @Wally
    , @renfro
  243. Momus says:

    Donald Trump leaves Iran deal (Chip Somodevilla / Getty)
    Chip Somodevilla / Getty

    by Caroline Glick9 May 2018567

    [MORE]

    Opponents of President Donald Trump claim that President Donald Trump’s decision to leave the Iran deal blocks any chance of a new agreement with Tehran and wrecks U.S. credibility with its allies.
    Trump’s supporters, for their part, argue that the president opened up the possibility of negotiating a better deal with the ayatollahs by abandoning his predecessor’s lopsided nuclear pact.

    Both sides are wrong. And, more to the point, they miss the larger picture.

    For more than twenty years, successive U.S. administrations have been vexed by the challenge of Iran’s illicit pursuit of nuclear weapons. And from the time the problem first emerged during Bill Clinton’s tenure at the White House, there have only been two viable means to block Iran’s path to the bomb.

    The first path is the path of regime change. This option requires the U.S. to precipitate Iran’s economic and social collapse through crippling economic sanctions and active support for the Iranian people as they rise up against their theocratic overlords.

    The second path is to destroy Iran’s nuclear installations and assets through limited covert and overt strikes.

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    Parallel to these two options, over the years, U.S. policymakers — first and foremost President Barack Obama — created two imaginary options for contending with Iran’s nuclear program. Obama and his advisors framed the public discourse around their nuclear negotiations as a contest between them.

    First, they said, is the option of all-out war. The U.S. could lead an invasion of Iran, along the lines of the U.S.-led invasion of Iran in 2003. In the course of a massive war, the U.S. goal would be to overthrow the Iranian regime and forcibly end its nuclear program.

    The other option, they insisted, was to cut a deal with Iran under which Iran would voluntarily give up its nuclear program in exchange for trade deals, and for international acceptance of Iran’s other malign behavior – from its sponsorship of terrorism and regional aggression, to its development of ballistic missiles capable of delivering nuclear warheads.

    The purpose of the Obama administration’s propaganda war on behalf of the nuclear deal was to delegitimize criticism of the content of the deal by claiming that everyone that opposed the policy was a warmonger (or, conversely, making “common cause” with hard-liners in the Iranian regime that wanted war against the U.S.).

    In the event, both of the options were imaginary. No one in the U.S. or the international community has ever proposed a massive U.S.-led invasion of Iran. It was never considered. It is a policy that exists nowhere and is advocated by nobody.

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    As for the notion that Iran could be convinced to concede its nuclear program voluntarily in exchange for international legitimacy, planeloads of cash, and a blind eye to its other bad behavior, this, too, was a fantasy.

    Obama’s nuclear deal, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), did not involve Iran agreeing to give up its nuclear program. The deal simply required Iran to work on certain aspects of its nuclear program – advanced centrifuge development and ballistic missile development, for instance — while limiting others, like certain uranium enrichment activities, for the duration of the deal.

    In other words, to prevent the imaginary possibility of a U.S. led ground invasion of Iran, the Obama administration financed Iran’s regional aggression and sponsorship of terrorism to the tune of $150 billion dollars in sanctions relief. It legitimized Iran’s ballistic missile program and guaranteed Tehran’s eventual acquisition of a nuclear arsenal.

    While doing all of that, Obama’s nuclear diplomacy weakened the America’s ability to implement either of the two actual options for blocking Iran’s path to a nuclear arsenal.

    The JCPOA required the U.S. and its partners to abrogate the crippling nuclear sanctions which were spurring the Iranian people to rise up against the regime.

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    As for the option of limited strikes, the JCPOA rendered them politically impossible. How could the U.S. sabotage or destroy its diplomatic partner’s nuclear installations?

    All of that changed on Tuesday.

    By abandoning the JCPOA and reinstating U.S. sanctions that were suspended in 2016, Trump resuscitated both actual options for blocking Iran’s path to the bomb.

    The sanctions option, which he implemented right after he concluded his remarks, will destabilize the regime by drying up its financial flows.

    The downstream impact of the sanctions is twofold. First, they will diminish Iran’s ability to sponsor terror and carry out regional aggression in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Gaza, Afghanistan, and beyond. Second, by reinstating crippling sanctions on Iran’s economy, the U.S. will weaken the regime’s hold on power.

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    As for the option of direct strikes against Iran’s nuclear installations, Trump did not put the option on the table on Tuesday, but he created the political space to consider them either separately or in conjunction with sanctions. Indeed, at his cabinet meeting Wednesday, Trump intimated that the prospect of just such strikes is under consideration when he warned Iran of “severe consequences” if it reinstates the nuclear activities it had limited under the JCPOA.

    The salutary effects of Trump’s move are not limited to the its positive implications on U.S.’s real options for contending with Iran’s nuclear program. His announcement accomplished two related goals as well.

    First, he took a major step towards restoring the democratic balance of power in the U.S.

    The U.S. Constitution requires the President to bring international agreements to the Senate for ratification by two-thirds of its members. Treaties are broadly defined as significant foreign policy initiatives that bind the U.S. to other nations. The nuclear deal certainly was a significant foreign policy initiative. Indeed, it was a radical departure from 70 years of U.S. non-proliferation policy.

    The JCPOA required the U.S. to enrich and empower an enemy state on a massive scale to achieve an end that advanced no discernable U.S. interest. The Europeans accrued far greater financial benefit from the deal than the U.S. did, for instance. And again, far from blocking Iran’s path to the bomb, the deal ensured Iran’s eventual acquisition of a nuclear arsenal.

    The constitutional case for the Senate to treat the JCPOA as a treaty was self-evident.

    Obama knew that not only did he lack the requisite support of two-thirds of Senators, but he also lacked the support of a bare majority of Senators for his radical deal. And so, rather than present the deal to the Senate, in accordance with his constitutional obligation, he turned to the UN to bypass the Senate. The day the JCPOA was concluded, then-U.S. ambassador to the UN Samantha Power submitted a Security Council resolution effectively “ratifying” the deal in lieu of Senate approval.

    In other words, Obama used the UN to hamstring Congress and deny the public’s representatives the ability to conduct congressional oversight over his foreign policy.

    Tuesday Trump characterized Obama’s deal as “a great embarrassment to me as a citizen, and to all citizens of the United States.”

    And he was right. For to secure Iranian acceptance of the JCPOA, Obama destroyed America’s credibility as an adversary and an ally alike.

    Iran’s naval aggression against U.S. naval craft in the Straits of Hormuz, like its flamboyant exploitation of the funds it received from sanctions relief to ratchet up its terror sponsorship and regional aggression, were expressions of contempt for the U.S.

    By the same token, to persuade the Iranian regime to accept a deal that gave them everything and gave the U.S. nothing, Obama betrayed and endangered America’s Arab allies and Israel.

    When Trump walked away from the nuclear deal on Tuesday, and reinstituted the sanctions that were suspended under the deal, he signaled to U.S. friends and foes alike that America is back in the superpower business.

    America is once again an enemy of its foes and a friend of its allies. When Trump says that Iran will face “severe consequences,” the Iranians need to take him seriously in a manner they never took Obama seriously when he said emptily that “all options are on the table.”

    Trump’s many critics in the media insist that his decision to abandon Obama’s deal with Iran’s mullahs sends the message that the U.S. cannot be trusted when it gives its word to the nations of the world. But the message he has sent – and that seems to have been picked up by North Korea, for instance – is that the U.S. will not maintain international agreements that harm its interests.

    The deal the U.S. is willing to make with North Korea is not yet another appeasement agreement along the lines of Obama’s Iran deal and Clinton’s 1994 nuclear agreement with North Korea. When President Trump tells the North Korean regime that the only deal he will make is one that dismantles Pyongyang’s nuclear arsenal, after he abandoned the JCPOA, the North Koreans know that it would be unwise to doubt him.

    The fact that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo returned from North Korea with three American citizens who had been held hostage by Pyongyang in tow signals that North Korea is taking Trump seriously.

    And so Trump’s announcement that he is withdrawing from Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran was a masterstroke. It was brilliant not because it paved the way for a new diplomatic initiative. It was a masterstroke because in one fell swoop he ended the farce that you can have a non-proliferation policy based on facilitating Iran’s acquisition of nuclear weapons.

    At the same time, Trump strengthened America’s real options for preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. He restored the balance of powers in America’s constitutional order. And he restored U.S. credibility internationally with America’s friends and foes alike.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  244. @L.K

    Jews welcome what Trump did.
    So one might think that for the time being Deep State is quiet, Netanyahu satisfied, that the jew for which Bolton is the puppet, will finance the elections, and that economic war between the USA and European countries will create jobs in the USA.

  245. @L.K

    “There has been a tendency to circumvent or simply ignore the significant role of Jewish intellectuals in the German Communist Party, and thereby seriously neglect one of the genuine and objective reasons for increased anti-Semitism during and after World War 1…

    I would add that there continues to be a tendency to circumvent or simply ignore the significant role of Jewish intellectuals in the all Communist Parties including the Comintern, the CPUSA and the USSR as well as in Germany and elsewhere.

    The history of “Jewish” assassins and all around troublemaking including labor unrest is downplayed or ignored as well. The concept of permanent worldwide revolution appears to me to be fundamentally anti-goy in nature and is clearly part of the program for world domination by so called “Semites.”

    The type is vile through and through and always has been. They are utterly perverse and destructive.

  246. @L.K

    The United States only keeps agreements as long as they are to its short term advantage – just ask native Americans. One can never count on the U.S. to keep its word.

    That should be painfully obvious to even the “high IQ” crowd by now. The American people should finally understand by now that the US government is not an agency that functions in their best interests, ever. It is a tool of plundering parasites and sheep shearers and has been designed that way from the start, all the pretty rhetoric about “freedom” and “democracy” notwithstanding.

  247. @EliteComminc.

    The fact, is that hostilities commenced with Germany’s actions…

    The fact is that you keep spouting old wartime propaganda and another is that it’s a waste of time to feed you good information.

    Have a nice day now.

    • Agree: L.K
    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  248. anarchyst says:
    @Meimou

    …the last gasp of a dying religion–holocaustianity ™…

  249. Kolo says:
    @Momus

    Tripling your dosage is my advice

  250. @Mario Partisan

    If they have the ability to buy our politicians, they have the ability to coerce us.

    That is not only true,but is an example of a huge flaw in the so called “representative” system, especially the one we in the US live under. Control those fools with money, extortion and other mafia-like techniques and you control vast portions of the system.

    Commie style centralization of control of the economy and of the masses began around the time of WW1 (war socialism) and really picked up steam under FDR and his Red groupies and Red millionaire supporters. Also, the deceptively named Federal Reserve is another key to control and all it takes is a tiny handful of goons in positions of power to effectively coerce the rest of us into

    de facto

    slavery.

    It’s all laid out in Marx’s 10 planks, which for the most part, for some strange reason, is hardly mentioned any more.

  251. Momus says:
    @Wally

    That site you reference is thoroughly discredited?

    • Replies: @Wally
  252. anarchyst says:
    @Momus

    Carolyn Glick is a dual-nationality Israeli who was (is?) an officer in the IDF. Once again, Israel is “wagging the dog”…

  253. Rogue says:
    @Momus

    The holocaust has been proven to the satisfaction of a vast percentage of the worlds population

    To me the jury is still out on the whole Holocaust business, but your above statement is nonsense.

    The vast majority of people will always accept the official narrative, whatever it might be.

    Most people have little interest, or knowledge, about history.

    The Holocaust has also had the full backing of popular culture as well, so skepticism – whether valid or not – is not likely to be found in the “vast percentage of the world’s population.”

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  254. @Realist

    Delusion-prone Realist said to me:
    “Your reply is gibberish.”

    Hi Surrealist,

    How may I compensate you for having bestowed such high hosanna upon me, above? In general, I am deeply gratified when unctuous commenters here at U.R. try & insult me. Thank you very much!

    One (unsolicited) constructive suggestion? No “coercion” intended, but you might consider changing your “screen name” which is conspicuously misleading.

    With an apology to the late-James Joyce, you likely are a “Realist as a Young Man.”
    Which brings me to Jeane Kirkpatrick who served the Reagan administration, & notably became “Realpolitik as an Elder Woman.”

    So in this 1980s-era context, Surrealist, I want to help & offer this:
    Within the ZUS paradigm, practical “realist” politics consists of an a priori necessity to both ignore & distort facts.

    For two examples, 1. Absent Palestinian-human & political rights, and 2. America’s having no present choice but to pay and fight Israeli wars.

    Just say no to groveling!

  255. @Realist

    Hi (Sur)Realist,

    Offer sincere apology for my having failed to respectfully acknowledge your realistic & very important comment, # 9.

    Am holding-on to a belief that Philip Giraldi has taken into account your non-lickspittle assessment.

  256. @Wally

    So just how many of us are there? I’d like to hear your estimate.

  257. gwynedd1 says:
    @Kratoklastes

    “even if there was not a specific policy to exterminate Jews, specifically using lethal gas, it is wrong to intern people solely because their peak global representatives ‘declared war’ on your nation; and”

    More or less that is the point I have made. Of course I do bristle at the idea that its entirely unprovoked. The Zionist movement did make a deal with the Allies. As I said Jews were playing a high stakes game of politics. This will always cost many in the rank and file. Most documentaries do not even mention it as if it came out of the blue.

    “internment in camps results in very large logistics failures if you’re at the end of a lost war.”

    If you have internment camps , and resources become scarce in a war, indeed you may be held responsible for their demise.

    “Life for the inhabitants of Luft Stalag 13 was characterised by a series of japes and zingers, often at the expense of a visiting General or SS Oberleutnant. There was no starvation – in fact often the inmates were able to sneak out to nearby towns hand have a nice sit-down meal with wine and cheese.”

    I don’t think you have read what I have said very carefully. In 1945, Germans were starving. I did not say Germans were deliberately starving their servile labor. I also made the point that a pile of emaciated bodies, as evidence of extermination camps is laughable. Gassing people does not make them weigh 80 lbs. Clearly people were starving. All it would take is the last few months.

    I did not stress this point much. Many Jews were happy with the arrangement. Being separated from the society is how Jewish leaders kept their flocks. That is one reason why the ordinary Jew found themselves so easily ensnared. Many Jews like this ghetto idea.

    The gas chambers is rather important I suppose to several camps. If the Germans just had internment camps then we begin to look much like them. The good vs evil of WWII loses much of its mystique and with it the unifying force it creates. American GIs were the good guys…

    Jews are not the only ones that value this myth.

    Speaking of that, Russia is very much like Israel in this regard. The biggest unifying cultural ideal in Russia is the great war . Its their source of pride. In their case however they really were starved deliberately.

  258. Anon[102] • Disclaimer says:
    @gwynedd1

    Your reference to Albanians and Basques seems misinformed. And are you aware that the Zoroastrians are represented by the prosperous Parsees? That aside you inspire a question which is why and when the Zionists chose to support the British rather than the Germans.

    How important was 1. the fact that the Ottomans were a German ally from early in the war? 2. It would not have been possible to get America to support Germany? 3. Early Zionist financiers were British?

    • Replies: @gwynedd1
  259. Rurik says:
    @Momus

    Assad, with Iranian help is dismembering Syria.

    fuck off

  260. iffen says:
    @iffenproofs

    What iffen, you just fell off the turnip truck?

    In fact, I did fall off the turnip truck, however, it wasn’t yesterday.

  261. Art says:
    @Realist

    To many intellectual Americans are coerced by the Jews.

    Americans are not coerced by Jews. Jews are only 2.2% of our population. Many Americans are out smarted by Jews. Jews buy our politicians and Americans allow it.

    “The people” are always the last to know – the game is not over – we shall see.

    I have little doubt that the Little Jews will be the losers – history says they always are.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope — Art

  262. @Realist

    You seem to dismiss completely the evidence presented in Mr. Giraldi’s article. As I said above, the passing of laws which curb the free speech rights of Americans with regards to Israel/Palestine is a coercive measure done to shut down any critical conversation of Jewish/Israeli behavior. And such laws are passed at the behest of the Jewish lobby.

    Witness the case of Ursula Haverbeck in Germany. An 89-year old woman is going to jail for making a YouTube video, at the behest of the Jewish lobby in Germany. Do you think the Jewish lobby will coerce Germans, but not Americans?

    I gave you the example of my own experience, which you seem to have dismissed entirely, but I’ll grant you the benefit of the doubt: you don’t know if I am telling the truth.

    But consider these other cases:

    1) Jewish groups will lobby universities to deny tenure to professors critical of Israel. See the case of Mr. Finkelstein, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Finkelstein#Controversies. See the case of Mr. Salaita, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Salaita_controversy.

    2) Jewish groups, like the ADL, successfully pressured the Museum of Children’s Art in Oakland to not show an exhibit depicting art from Palestine. Granted, this seems to have been a Pyrrhic victory, but a victory nevertheless. http://mondoweiss.net/2011/09/could-censorship-of-childrens-art-prove-a-turning-point/

    3) Jewish coercion successfully got a NY bookstore to apologize for selling a children’s’ book called “P is for Palestine.” http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/p-palestine-c-censorship-381349343

    4) Here is an example from just a few days ago of Jewish advocacy groups trying to stop the publication of an article critical of Israel. http://mondoweiss.net/2018/05/philadelphia-publication-inquirer/

    I’ll end this post with a personal anecdote. When I was in graduate school on the east coast I worked for my department as a graduate student instructor, teaching introductory economics courses. One day, a student of my office mate came in to receive tutoring from him, but he wasn’t in the office. Rather than have the student go away empty handed, I decided I would tutor her. Keep in mind, as I was not her instructor, I had no obligation to do so, but I was being nice. After I had successfully assisted her in understanding the material, I wished her success on her final exam and an enjoyable “Christmas break.” At that moment, the student revealed that she was Jewish, and demanded an apology from me for saying “Christmas break.” I was flabbergasted, and refused to apologize, as I had just done this ingrate a favor. Of course, my refusal to apologize simply escalated the situation, and she threatened to go to the department and say that I was an “anti-semite.” I replied, “Let’s go together right now. You tell your side, and I’ll explain how I’ve been kind and generous to you, and we will see what the department has to say. But you are not going to slander me behind my back.” She stormed out of the room and nothing came of the incident.

    What is my point here? It is that Zionist Jews will intimidate even those who have just done them a favor. If they will threaten people over trivial issues like saying “Christmas,” they will coerce anybody they think is a threat to their agenda. And just so you understand, this anecdote is not the “coercion” I was talking about in my original post. I have received threats that are much worse from Zionist Jews.

    Yes, Jews are smart and quite wealthy on average. But they are also, contrary to the image they portray, very psychologically aggressive. And anytime they encounter a case of “goyim knowing” they try to “shut it down.” Remember, any good strategy of control involves both carrot and stick. And many Zionist Jews are not only willing, but quite happy, to employ the stick.

  263. @Momus

    A vast % of the world’s population does not give a damn if there was a holocaust or not.
    Certainly the largest religious group, Muslims, does not believe a word of the story.
    Yu can see this now in European countries where large numbers of Muslim immigrants are, what is called antisemitism is rising, no holocaust story can prevent it.
    This so called anti semitism in reality is being anti Israel.
    How Muslims feel about the holocaust we recently saw in the Netherland, Dutch police on excursion to Auschwitz, those of Moroccan origin refusing to go.

    • Agree: renfro
  264. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    Incitatus, you just do not know what you are talking about.
    You’re in way over your head.
    Here are the facts:
    The Leuchter Report Vindicated

    Wally!

    I’ve not addressed ‘The Leuchter Report’, nor the veracity of like opinion. I can’t get beyond Fred’s fraudulent claim to be an engineer. To which he pleaded guilty, no less. Then his assertion he alone was prosecuted for such, another obvious lie. Puts one off.

    My message to anarchyst was to cut Fred’s martyrdom from his spam. Sure, it’s a tearjerker, but it’s phony. A stain on your credibility. Word to the wise. Concentrate on Fred’s assertions, not his qualifications or ‘professional’ history. Just trying to be helpful.

    I didn’t, for example, challenge the ever-popular “jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933)”. A bit disingenuous, don’t you think? Never mentions Hitler’s ‘declaration of war’ on Jews in 1919 (yes, 1919).

    It was his very first address to the DAP in Munich’s Hofbräukeller. The Münchener Beobachter reports he spoke with “rousing words” for the case for “the necessity to rally against the common enemy of nations [Jews]” and urges support for “a German press, so that the nation will learn the things about which the Jewish papers keep quiet”. It was 16 Oct 1919! Fourteen years before 1933.

    You know Dolf. He was just getting started. Still an enlisted soldier working in Karl Mayr’s intelligence department under District Military Commander General Arnold von Möhl. Makes one wonder. Was the army using him to spin the stab-in-the-back excuse for their own incompetence?

    Four months later (24 Feb 1920), Wolf (he loved that nickname) drew two thousand to a widely advertised event at the Hofbräuhaus Festsaal. He proudly announced the brand-new 25 point DAP party platform. Lots of good stuff. Revocation of Versailles, “union of all Germans in a Greater Germany’, breaking of “the slavery of interest”, abolition of incomes unearned by work, targeting of war profiteers and confiscation of their assets, nationalization of trust companies, land reform, banning land speculation, expropriation of land for communal use without compensation, death penalty for usury and profiteering, etc. Oh, almost forgot. German citizenship for ethnic Germans only, no Jew can hold German citizenship (Point 4), and “the Jewish materialist spirit within and without us” is to be combatted (Point 24).

    Not worth attention? There’s more. On 7 Aug 1920 Dolf warns listeners “do not think it is possible to combat a disease without killing the cause, without exterminating the bacillus. And do not think that it is possible to combat racial tuberculosis without taking care that the nation is freed from the cause of its racial tuberculosis…The effect of Jewry shall never pass, and the poisoning of the nation shall not end until the cause, the Jew, has been removed from our midst”. Doctor Dolf. The biological metaphor became a favorite. Antiseptic anyone?

    Six days later (13 Aug 1920) he tells an overflow crowd “we must necessarily…be anti-Semites”. In a Munich Hofbräuhaus speech entitled (surprise) “Why We Are Anti-Semites”. Never shy, Dolf says the NSDAP stands “at the head” of the anti-Semitic movement in Germany and all the other good stuff you’d expect. International Jewish capitalism is destroying Germany and the rest of the world. Jews are selfish, working just for themselves rather than for the common good. Jews are incapable of forming their own state since they rely on parasitically sucking the blood of other people. Jewish “materialism and mammonism” are the anti-thesis of true socialism. Jews bring about a “lowering of the racial level” forcing people “to liberate themselves from the unwanted visitor or themselves to perish”. Not least, he faults newspaper Münchner Neueste Nachrichen for giving Jews a voice it its pages.

    Really have to admire Dolf. Never at a loss for blaming others. November Criminals, Freemasons, Frogs, Brits, Yanks, bankers, newspapers, etc. Anyway, you get the idea. Hitler’s war on Jews began fourteen years before 1933 (yes, 14 years). Go figure!

    Could have mentioned all that to anarchyst. Being helpful on how to sell Leuchter sans nasty bits was more important. Honest.

  265. gwynedd1 says:
    @Anon

    “Your reference to Albanians and Basques seems misinformed. And are you aware that the Zoroastrians are represented by the prosperous Parsees? That aside you inspire a question which is why and when the Zionists chose to support the British rather than the Germans.”

    What’s misinformed. I am talking about very marginalized populations they do not have the same representation.

    I knew a Parsee. Looks like I know doesn’t it? I hope you are not making an extreme jackass out of your self to suggest that a small remnant of them as being economically prosperous means they were not nearly eradicated by Islam?

    My point is Jews have never been without significant power for quite some time. Thus they are there to represent their tragic events unlike those who were truly annihilated or on the brink of it. In fact were are seeing that now with Yazidis. The Alawites are also more or less trying to do as the Jews do now. Only they do not have a large diaspora controlling the US policy in the region.

    “How important was 1. the fact that the Ottomans were a German ally from early in the war? 2. It would not have been possible to get America to support Germany? 3. Early Zionist financiers were British?”

    Well the the world Zionist movement was not all powerful. The Germans were allied with the Ottomans and Ottomans held Palestine. So its was pretty simple. The powerful ally of the Ottomans was in their way, and in more ways than one. Jews happily living in Germany was not going to help populate their fantasy camp colony. WWII worked very nicely to make Palestine a relative paradise.

    • Replies: @L.K
  266. gwynedd1 says:
    @Mario Partisan

    Speaking of anecdotes , good luck in a physics department or trying to get a book published that criticizes Einstein on either his theory or his plagiarism . I know an author personally who experienced their tyranny.

  267. @peterAUS

    Hi All,

    As I previously suggested here at U.R., and knowing my opinion is shared by many people, high upon President Putin’s job “Things-to-do-List” is protecting Israel.

    Refer to video (below) which features Netanyahu and Serbia’s Zionist-approved President Aleksandr Vucic in Moscow.

  268. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    The effect of Jewry shall never pass, and the poisoning of the nation shall not end until the cause, the Jew, has been removed from our midst”. Doctor Dolf. (Hitler)

    Hmm – in 1920 there was a Herr Incitatus condemning Doctor Dolf. Did it do any good?

    Hmm – today same story, different continent – in America the JQ is back on the table.

    Hmm – Mr. Incitatus is doing the exact same thing Herr Incitatus did. Will the outcome be any different?

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope — Art

    • Replies: @redmudhooch
  269. gwynedd1 says:

    And why would he care either way? I know I don’t.

    The real interesting part for me is when the Zionist alliance achieves its goals. I sort of chuckle at Christian Zionists and the third temple idea. Who is going to run that temple? Which sect that is? Wonder what atheist Jews will think of it? They think Israel as a nation was the hard part.

    Its really nothing new for the gentile anyway. Israel has been a great place to stay very far away from for many years. That it is coveted by three major religions makes it one of the most unfortunate pieces of ground on earth. Modern Jews seem blind to what happens to the old residents , like the Palestinians. One day they may end up the same when they become the weak handed sect. I would flee from sacred grounds the same way I would flee from mineral rich soils if I had no hope to control it. so long as these mythologies persist Israel will always be greater than its people. Comparing to Japan, Japan is its people just like Athens was its people on the poor soils of Attica.

    Jerusalem may one day be a green vs blue chariot race gang affair safely infighting within the walls of Constantinople. Jews in their diaspora became one of the most powerful people in the world. They moved within the Roman empire, Europe ,the Caliphates and the Ottomans to the economic centers. There mobility and networking ability is remarkable. Their bags were always packed. Now that they are near achieving their goal they will discover the mirage. Israel will become like the nations , tying their blood to a soil. They will lose everything that they were.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  270. @gwynedd1

    A very perceptive comment. Thanks.

  271. Realist says:
    @Mario Partisan

    What is my point here? It is that Zionist Jews will intimidate even those who have just done them a favor. If they will threaten people over trivial issues like saying “Christmas,” they will coerce anybody they think is a threat to their agenda. And just so you understand, this anecdote is not the “coercion” I was talking about in my original post. I have received threats that are much worse from Zionist Jews.

    None of you argumentative assholes have answered my question: Why do gentiles allow Jews to ‘coerce’ them???
    All you do is cry and whine….what is your solution?

  272. @Realist

    Hi SurRealist,

    Ray McGovern’s words & deeds are much more important than dealing with you.

    To All,

    Please look at the bone-chilling “protection” given to Citizen McGovern, below?

    https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2018/05/09/cia-whistleblower-ray-mcgovern-brutally-assaulted-by-police-at-haspel-hearing/

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @jacques sheete
  273. Art says:
    @Realist

    Why do gentiles allow Jews to ‘coerce’ them???

    The answer is a very simple.

    Jews are vicious mendacious revengeful people. Confronting the Jew agenda in America is a matter of economic life and death.

    If you are a public figure, the Jew tribe will assassinate your economic and social life. They will attack you, your family, and your business.

    Art

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Realist
  274. L.K says:
    @gwynedd1

    “The Alawites are also more or less trying to do as the Jews do now.”

    I suppose this absurd statement refers to Alawites in Syria… it is still BS.

    • Replies: @gwynedd1
  275. @jilles dykstra

    Laughing . . . Germany owes it survival as does Europe to the US ability to reconstruction the region. Germany, also had the benefit of not having to fund their defense against Russia because of US presence. That was a boon in their favor.

    Since Germany represented a front line against the communists, more money was poured into defending that region.

    While these are interesting comments – they are not pertinent to the previous issue. The war in short was a response to violent aggression by the Germans and the Austrians. And even Mr. Nock in his text explains events quite well, despite his desire to spin the culpability to ameliorate the punishments.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  276. @Kolo

    Having responded in detail, that included the commentary by Mr. Nock, you’ll have to take up your assessment with him.

  277. @jacques sheete

    No. I used the references from Mr Nock himself who goes out of his way to explain that he is not arguing that Germany is not responsible. He is arguing that some responsibility should be shared. He then attempts to explain why in great detail.

    He further goes on to note the exact causes, including the assassination of the Arch Duke . . .

    What he contends is not that Germany/Austria are not primarily responsible, but rather that there are mitigating circumstances to the accountability.

    • Troll: L.K
  278. So long as Americans are sending Israel a multi-billion dollar welfare check every year, paying for their defense, sending young Americans to die for them, paying for their healthcare while we get crap unaffordable healthcare, they can expect a whole lot of criticism.

    They want be free from the opinions and criticism of Americans they should learn to be independent. Good luck there. Stop sticking that nose where it doesn’t belong, meddling in American politics.

    I think all of the attacks on the Constitution, Bill of Rights, everything they,re doing is gonna backfire big time on them, already is. Sometimes it seems like they want folks to hate them.

    The Notorious Banned FOX 9 11 2001 News Footage Israeli Mossad Links
    Yep Israel dun it, with help from traitors…

  279. Wally says:
    @Momus

    LOL !!

    Says who? The Usual Enemies of Free Speech ?

    Tell us specifically what it is that supposedly ‘discredits’ CODOH.

    It’s obvious that you are just empty Zionist talk.
    You dodge what I post because you have no rational information which rebuts what I post.

    http://www.codoh.com

    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist

  280. Wally says:
    @Realist

    Jews are able to play by a different set of rules. IOW, no rules.

    It’s not hard to understand that under those circumstances they have an advantage which results in making more money, begets them preferential treatment & political power …. which are, of course, the reasons for the double standards in the first place.

    Simple stuff that everyone knows.

    That’s why there are Jew supremacist organizations like the ADL who scream like the little boys they are whenever the obvious is pointed out.
    That’s why we have the fake ’6M’ to shield them.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Realist
  281. @Momus

    The holocaust has been proven to the satisfaction of a vast percentage of the worlds population.

    “The” holocaust? Wha ha ha ha….!

    You are out there Jim Jonesing with moon landing, spherical earth and Hiroshima deniers.

    And you’re still playing the victim card and wailing that the sky is falling. Waaaaa! Waaaa!!

    But hey, I’m not complaining, jokers like you are (minimally) entertaining.

    • Agree: Rurik
  282. @Momus

    About 100,000 to 200,000 Jewish Bolsheviks fled to Germany from Russia—that is where Hitlers “dislike’ of Jews came from….Bolshevism. He feared they would start up Bolshevism in Germany.”

    Cites for this please.

    Who needs citations when it’s has been proven to the satisfaction of a vast percentage of the worlds population? You are out there Jim Jonesing with moon landing, spherical earth and Hiroshima deniers.

    You advised others to call the mother ship and to take their meds; maybe it’s time you took your own advice.

    PS: I bet you never even heard of the Bavarian Socialist Republic. If you do, give us a summary of what you know. I also bet you never even heard of Bavaria til now.

  283. RobinG says:
    @Art

    ISRAEL CONDEMNED FOR THREATENING FUTURE OF CHRISTIANITY IN THE HOLY LAND
    “Church leaders in Jerusalem have accused Israel of undermining Christianity in the Holy Land and weakening the faith at a time of severe tensions in the Middle East.

    The heads of Jerusalem’s major churches—including its Catholic, Greek Orthodox and Lutheran denominations, among others—criticized Israel’s lawmakers and its courts following a ruling that mandates the sale of church buildings to a Jewish settler organization.’

    http://www.newsweek.com/israel-condemned-threatening-future-christianity-holy-land-660041

  284. @Kolo

    Another moronic comment

    Agree button temporarily disabled.

    The dude isn’t even worth wasting time on which is what one would expect since spouting century old war time propaganda is the best he can do.

  285. @Realist

    None of you argumentative assholes have answered my question: …

    “Argumentative assholes” says the first guy to hurl the insult. Nowhere in my replies to you was I ever disrespectful. I disagreed with you, but only through facts. Never did I attack you personally, so I consider your insult to me to be rather unwarranted. You call us “argumentative” when this particular conversation started with you challenging commenter Art. So you start the argument, and then get mad when people disagree with you. If you don’t want to deal with “argumentative” people don’t come to a forum and challenge what others say, because it is only natural that you will be challenged back. That kind of back and forth is the purpose of a comments section and there is nothing inherently rude about it, unless you make it that way.

    Now, you first asked why Americans allow Jews to buy our politicians. I tried to give an answer in my original post. I responded by saying:

    They know, instinctively, that they will be accused of “anti-semitism,” a potentially career-destroying accusation, if they say anything about it, and so keep silent.

    There is no doubt a strong taboo against the discussion of Jewish power and most people are, not without reason, very hesitant to challenge taboos. In short, I suggested that Americans are “coerced” into silence.

    In response you ask,

    …Why do gentiles allow Jews to ‘coerce’ them???

    “Coerce” means to compel or to force. Asking why gentiles “allow” themselves to be coerced is like asking why someone “allows” them self to be robbed at gun point. It is putting the onus on the victim. Your purpose with the question seems to be to suggest that elite Jews are not responsible for their own behavior. To the contrary, it is the actor who is responsible for their behavior, not the person acted upon.

    However, at the risk of debating on your terms, I will try to answer the question of why Americans allow themselves to be ruled over by a small minority. First, most Americans have no idea that such a situation even exists. Now, you could say that they are responsible for their own ignorance, but to be honest, where would Americans learn about such a reality? We are constantly told to trust only “reputable” news sources such as the NY Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, etc., and that everything else is “fake news.” Anyone who gullibly relies on mainstream sources will naturally be ignorant of the Jewish Question. While it is unfortunate that people are so gullible, I consider being so one of the most forgivable of flaws. It seems to me that our brains are wired by evolution to be rather trusting, given that for most of our existence we lived in small clans where trust was natural and essential. I am not inclined to blame the little people for trusting those who, in a sane world, they would be able to trust.

    Now, imagine a person who starts to learn about the JQ. Initially, they will probably have a feeling of guilt. After all, they have seen “Schindler’s List,” read Elie Wiesel’s “Night” and have had the narrative of endless Jewish persecution rammed down their throat since they were young. Being a good person, they are inclined to sympathize with victims and are scared of being associated with the dreaded Nazis. Even if they overcome their own mental blocks, they know that the vast majority of people are like them and will probably keep their mouth shut to avoid being ostracized. And given that for most of human existence, being ostracized from one’s clan meant death, people’s brains are wired to try to stay in others’ good graces.

    The result of the above is that only a small minority is able and willing to speak out. And in doing so, they often expose themselves to character assassination, censorship, loss of economic opportunities, and in the case of Europe, prison time for violating “hate speech” laws. As Art says:

    If you are a public figure, the Jew tribe will assassinate your economic and social life. They will attack you, your family, and your business.

    There is no sense in asking why someone “allows” themselves to be attacked or threatened. They simply are.

    All you do is cry and whine….what is your solution?

    Look, there are no easy answers to the circumstances that America finds itself in. The politicians are bought (something you acknowledge), the mainstream media is not in our hands. The only thing we can do right now is to try, via the internet, to build a counterculture in which discussing the JQ is no longer a taboo. They know this, and that is why everyone who raises the JQ on social media is being banned, “shadow banned” and generally shut down. Thank the heavens for the First Amendment. It might be our only hope. If you sympathize with those of us who are concerned about this problem, why don’t you offer us your solution?

    Finally, if you choose to respond to me, remember that I have been respectful to you, and that it is only fair to return the courtesy. Thanks.

  286. Rurik says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Laughing . . . Germany owes it survival as does Europe to the US ability to reconstruction the region.

    Palestine owes its survival to the Zionists who’re taking care of their infrastructure and feeding them. Do people realize how burdensome it is on Israel to supervise every minutia of Palestinian life? They’re so solicitous that they calculate every calorie that a Palestinian consumes daily. They even do their part to make sure Palestinian children are not gorging on chocolate, by banning chocolate all together from the concentration camps.

    Berlin was/is like that. A giant concentration camp surrounded by liberators, who saved Germany and Europe from themselves. So when one of the liberators in the East decided to reduce the calorie intake of their charges, the occupier, er, I mean the ‘liberator’ from the West did an airlift and fed their charges, who must remain grateful for having been fed back then for all posterity.

    The Palestinians, like some grumbling Germans, are ungrateful for everything that is done for them.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  287. Art says:

    Hmm — Did Trump just start an Iran/Syria/Israeli war?

    Say it is not so!

    Think Peace — Art

  288. @Mario Partisan

    Dynamite comment. All of it.

    Bless you!

    • Replies: @Realist
  289. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Please look at the bone-chilling “protection” given to Citizen McGovern, below?

    Hey, Chuck. It’s more like bone-crushing.

    Can you believe the treatment they are meting out to RM… man who has served his country with such distinction? It is simply reprehensible.

  290. @Art

    America is getting more like Wiemar Germany every day isn’t it? Somethings gotta give soon. Not good… Never learn, if Americans knew the real history of WW1 WW2 Jews etc.. the this wouldn’t be happening. Again.

    Sin City sex drive: Las Vegas to attempt world record orgy

    https://www.rt.com/news/426343-sex-orgy-record-vegas/

  291. Rurik says:
    @Mario Partisan

    Extremely thoughtful, well-worded response.

  292. Realist says:
    @Mario Partisan

    Your purpose with the question seems to be to suggest that elite Jews are not responsible for their own behavior.

    Of course Jews are responsible for their behavior and so are gentiles who allow Jews to bend them over.
    Grow a pair and stop crying and whining like little girls.

  293. Realist says:
    @Wally

    Jews are able to play by a different set of rules. IOW, no rules.

    Why do you little crying whining gentile girls allow it?

    • Replies: @Wally
  294. Realist says:
    @Art

    The answer is a very simple.

    Jews are vicious mendacious revengeful people. Confronting the Jew agenda in America is a matter of economic life and death.

    If you are a public figure, the Jew tribe will assassinate your economic and social life. They will attack you, your family, and your business.

    If their is no solution why don’t you little girls stop crying and lay back and enjoy it???

    • Replies: @Art
    , @neutral
  295. Meimou says:
    @Wally

    You got some splaning to do Wally.

    holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2010/02/codoh-forum-that-moderated-itself-to.html?m=1

    Otoh this is over 10 years old…

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Andrew E. Mathis
  296. Realist says:
    @jacques sheete

    It was a long screed written between sobs of WOE IS ME.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Art
  297. @geokat62

    Hey, Chuck. It’s more like bone-crushing.

    Sickening stuff. What a bunch of dick s^ckers! The goons belong in solitary for a good, long, time.

    That should be a lesson to anyone who thinks he’s serving the country by working as a government agent.

  298. Meimou says:
    @Momus

    There are two holes in the official story that you patch over with a Google search:

    1. The impossibility of killing millions of people without the Allies knowing about it, especially since there were spies in the concentration camps.

    2. The inplausibility of the Allies not using the extermination of Jews as extremely valuable wartime propaganda, especially since they lied about Germans using gas in World War 1.

    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.pt/2012/10/index-of-published-evidence-on.html?m=1

    Don’t say I never gave ya nothin’. Harras Wally with it at your leisure

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @Wally
  299. @Mario Partisan

    “Super” Mario Partisan took me to school by saying:
    Asking why gentiles “allow” themselves to be coerced is like asking why someone “allows” them self to be robbed at gun point. It is putting the onus on the victim.”

    Hi Mario,

    I am lost as to how best inform Realist that you have gentlemanly educated him on a level that he might understand.

    One critique, though? He’s overwhelmed, is in need of “Schindler’s List” deprogramming.

    Afterward, The McGuffey Eclectic Readers’ (primers, grades 1-6) 19th Century technique are best for Realist & others here who are programmed likewise.

    McGuffey’s go progressively slow. Trademark: “Repetition is the key to learning.”

    For example, textbook # 1 would intelligently display the letter “J” to teach elementary students, typically “minds like a sponge,” along with a corresponding image that starts with “J.”

    And instead of using an S.A.T.-style illustration of a powerful Ashkenazi “Jew,” the 49er kiddies would be shown a drawing of a farm “Jackass” to which they’d better relate!

    As you can understand, Mario Partisan, a word like “coerce” does not appear in McGuffeys until, let’s say, a rehabbed Realist would got promoted to grade 4.

    Thank you very much! Great job.

  300. @ChuckOrloski

    Chuck, as usual, your video was excellent and that should go a long way toward explaining, to even the most doltish, why anyone “allows” thugs to coerce them.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  301. @Realist

    It was a long screed written between sobs of WOE IS ME.

    And all of it true and well stated. A class act. You could use it as an example.

    So now only Jews are allowed to sob, “woe is me?”

    Something new every day.

  302. No one here has to prove the holocaust story is BS, the Israelis-Jews are doing it themselves. Just sit back and let them destroy their own narrative.
    What they’re doing in Palestine, what they’re starting to do in America, the war on free speech, the war on Christianity, decency, and morality, the constant warmongering. They’re doing the job themselves, more Americans are waking up to this reality every day now. Even the Christian Zionists are starting to see through the lies, and theres nothing they can do to stop it now, they’ve went too far.
    Americans are putting the pieces together and all the pieces fit.
    No one that has been through what they claim to have been through acts this way, period. So just sit back, crack open a beer and enjoy. These geniuses will do themselves in. As they have so many times in the past. Nothing new here.
    109 countries so far, America will be 110, probably very soon the way they’re acting lately. The writing is already on the wall.
    So keep up, calling everyone anti-semites, Jew-haters, keep up all of the things listed above, whatever you choose, you’re doing a fine job, once again! Cursed!

  303. anarchyst says:
    @Incitatus

    “Remember who declared war on Germany in the 2nd World war ?
    And who imposed a boycott on German Goods ?”

    “Judea declares War on Germany.”–Daily Express, March 24, 1934

    “The fight against Germany has now been waged for months by every Jewish
    community, on every conference, in all labor unions and by every single Jew in the world. There are reasons for the assumption that our share in this fight is of general importance. We shall start a spiritual and material war of the whole world against Germany. Germany is striving to become once again a great nation, and to recover her lost territories as well as her colonies. But our Jewish interests call for the complete destruction of Germany…”–Valadimir Jabotinsky, in Mascha Rjetsch, January, 1934

    “Germany is the enemy of Judaism and must be pursued with deadly hatred. The goal of Judaism of today is: a merciless campaign against all German peoples and the complete destruction of the nation. We demand a complete blockade of trade, the importation of raw materials stopped, and retaliation towards every German, woman and child.”–Jewish professor A. Kulischer, October, 1937

  304. @geokat62

    geokat asked me:
    “Can you believe the treatment they are meting out to RM… man who has served his country with such distinction? It is simply reprehensible.”

    Hi geokat,

    78-year old Ray McGovern took a historic & martyr-level step on behalf of country that is successfully engineered as insouciantly numb to the horrors Neoconservative, primarily secular billionaire-Zionist Jews, persistently do in the name of America.

    Beaten by Capitol police for patriotically shouting out a key question that nominee Gina Haspel should have ordered “halt” to the cop action & fussed-up what she did in Thailand and for whom.

    geo, very frankly, I EXPECTED something Bolshie-ugly like this to happen. Their Jewish choppers salivate for more brave action like Mr. McGovern’s. Who will be the next one?

    Hm. Will the impatient CIA/Mossad move to create a rather obscure “False Flag” Zio-dissident in order to keep the destructive rollerball going in Iran & Syria’s direction?

    The brutal Capitol police response had to be planned. An authority uttered a semblance of, “get fuckin’ McGovern, let’s roll!” The evil is open & in-our-face.

    Think I’ll mail Ray a dual “Get Well & Thank You For Your Service” card.

    Thanks, geo.

    Selah, “stop resisting, stop resisting,” and support The ZUS immoral wars.

  305. Art says:
    @Realist

    The answer is a very simple.

    Jews are vicious mendacious revengeful people. Confronting the Jew agenda in America is a matter of economic life and death.

    If you are a public figure, the Jew tribe will assassinate your economic and social life. They will attack you, your family, and your business.

    If their is no solution why don’t you little girls stop crying and lay back and enjoy it???

    No solution???

    You are looking at the solution – every day there is more contempt for the Jew tribe.

    “We girls” are kicking your ass! Every day there are more of us.

    You are winning ZERO arguments – you are being buried by truth.

    Do you have any idea how weak and pathetic you Hasbara Central types look?

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Hope this does not dissuade you from commenting.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @jacques sheete
  306. MarkinLA says:
    @Meimou

    2. The inplausibility of the Allies not using the extermination of Jews as extremely valuable wartime propaganda, especially since they lied about Germans using gas in World War 1.

    Just like Lincoln not wanting to make ending slavery the focal point of government propaganda about the Civil War, making saving the Jews the focal point of Allied propaganda may have been considered not a wise thing to do.

  307. Art says:
    @Realist

    It was a long screed written between sobs of WOE IS ME.

    Way to funny — a Jew spokesman complaining about someone else crying victim.

    Is that not the height of absurdity?

    Think Peace — Art

    • Agree: L.K
    • LOL: HogHappenin
    • Replies: @Realist
  308. Wally says:
    @Meimou

    That’s it, that’s your best shot? Really?

    I saw nothing in that list which prove the impossible ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.
    Do you? If so, please point it out to us.

    I tell you what, go ahead & pick out just 5 from that list and tell us why you believe they prove the ‘holocaust’. You’ve been challenged. We wait.

    In the meantime see these which demolish ‘Holocaust Controversies’:

    [MORE]

    The “Extermination Camps” of “Aktion Reinhardt”
    An Analysis and Refutation of Factitious “Evidence,” Deceptions and Flawed Argumentation of the “Holocaust Controversies” Bloggers

    By Jürgen Graf , Carlo Mattogno , Thomas Kues

    https://codoh.com/library/document/3052/?lang=en

    and:
    The “Extermination Camps” of “Aktion Reinhardt”
    Book Review

    By Friedrich Jansson

    https://codoh.com/library/document/3233/?lang=en

    ‘Holocaust Controversies’ has listed as one of it’s main contributors, Andrew Mathis, who also posts at Unz Review. He has been obliterated by the guys here.
    Below he his man handled by informed Revisionists at the CODOH Forum here: http://forum.codoh.com.

    See the threads below where Andrew Mathis of ‘Holocaust Controversies’, aka: Thames Darwin has posted and utterly lost, some examples of the beat down:

    Alleged & laughable “mass graves” according to T. Darwin / Andrew Mathis

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9414

    ‘Andrew Mathis on Dachau, Majdanek, Auschwitz, Treblinka’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9228

    Mathis who also posts as ‘Thames Darwin’, gets shot down:
    Anecdotal evidence & “holocaust survivors”

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9238

    holocaust’ denial article by Andrew Mathis debunked here’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2816

    ‘Prof. Mc Nally dissects HHP’s Andrew Mathis’ bogus article’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=284

    ‘Holo. Hist. Proj.’s Andrew Mathis on Zyklon scent removal’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2499

    ‘Green, Mathis refuted / cyanide: lice, humans, & more’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=267

    ‘Believer org. spokesman, Andrew Mathis, demolished in debate’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=254

    ‘Holo. Hist. Proj.’s Andrew Mathis attempts damage control’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2498

    ‘Email from Andrew Mathis (The Holocaust History Project)’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1526

    ‘holocaust’ History Project to unveil section on Treblinka’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=280

    Industry’s Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11345

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  309. Wally says:
    @Meimou

    Wow, they try anything, and yes TEN years ago and completely irrelevant to Revisionist research which you dodge every time.

    CODOH has the correct answer to that laughable attempt to distract:

    ‘name a specific “holocaust” topic censored / banned here’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7322&p=54792

    So much for the liars and their lies.

    Meimou, debate the guys at CODOH and see how you do. ‘Holocaust Controveries’ guys like Andrew Mathis did and was crushed.
    see

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4451&p=72138&hilit=mathis+thames+mulegino#p72138

  310. @Mario Partisan

    At that moment, the student revealed that she was Jewish, and demanded an apology from me for saying “Christmas break.”

    Wow just fucking wow the sheer arrogance of these revolting supremacists. But when we Goys hit back they will bring up their phony Holocau$t shield.

  311. @Incitatus

    I’ve not addressed ‘The Leuchter Report’, nor the veracity of like opinion.

    His report was replicated by the much more detailed Rudolf Germar report. No holes for introducing the Zyklon in Krema 2, no blue staining of the walls where half a million were allegedly gassed, no sinister activity deduced from the Bletchley park intercepts of Auschwitz from Jan 42 to Jan 43, the coke supplies to Auschwitz aren’t even close to the amount required to burn a million plus bodies, the cremation capacities tell a similar story. You have this bunch of stubborn inconvenient facts which can’t be explained. You are faced with narrative collapse and that’s why you Jail grandmothers for questioning your stupid story. It’s over no critical reader of history believes in your bullshit any longer.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  312. Realist says:
    @Art

    Do you have any idea how weak and pathetic you Hasbara Central types look?

    You’re a pathetic little fuck….I am not defending Jews or Israel.

    • Replies: @Mario Partisan
    , @peterAUS
  313. @Mario Partisan

    The Jews are at the Zenith of power in the US and it will rapidly go downhill. As the poster Rurik pointed out the Republican party is increasingly going to be controlled by people with his worldview and the even worse news is that the BDS/Antifa/SJW/Colored people are going to control the democratic party and they have no love for the Jews. It’s a pincer movement and there will be no escape. Look at the Labor party in UK, Jeremy Corbyn’s Labor has no love for the tribe. The writing is on the wall I will advice the tribe to be a little humble but they will not heed this sound counsel and history will predictably repeat itself.

  314. Realist says:
    @Art

    Way to funny — a Jew spokesman complaining about someone else crying victim.

    It is really hard to tell which one of you little girls is the dumbest, but you are a top contender.

    I am not Jewish or a spokesman.

    ‘Way too funny’

    FIFY

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    , @Art
  315. @jacques sheete

    Hi Jacques,

    Suppose you know about the arrest of the Free Speech-martyr grandma?

    Wish there was a percentage of Spartacus-spirit in Zio-captive Americans who would rise & cry out, “I am Ray McGovern!”

    Thanks, Jacques. Please refer to below article.

    https://www.9news.com.au/world/2018/05/09/11/43/nazi-grandma-finally-jailed-for-holocaust-denial

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  316. @Meimou

    Wally = Hannover

    • Replies: @Wally
  317. @Wally

    I can post links too

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  318. @Momus

    Are you and Quartermaster having some sort of a competition?

    • Replies: @Momus
  319. @anarchyst

    Please don’t let “Elite…” see your comment.

    And I hope he doesn’t see this, either,

    ” The chief mission of all other races and peoples, large and small, is to perish in the revolutionary holocaust. ”

    –Karl Marx Die Neue Rheinische Zeitung NZR January 1849

    As quoted here: https://www.henrymakow.com/2018/05/Karl-Marx-Was-Rothschilds-Third-Cousin%20.html

  320. @anarchyst

    Here are a few more relevant quotes from the fiends against Germans,

    There was a prominent American anthropologist, Ernest Hooten, who advocated exterminating Germans during WWII:

    During World War II, Hooton proposed to eradicate the German people by infiltrating them slowly with masses of non-European male immigrants, thereby breed “war strains” out of them.[10]
    In 1939, Earnest A. Hooten, Rhodes scholar and the “pre-eminent” anthropologist of the early 20th century a “professor”at Harvard University, revived the Italian criminologist Lombroso’s “childishly naïve” theories in his book, Crime and the Man, which was based on misleading statistics.
    In 1943 Hooten penned an article headlined, “Breed War Strain Out of Germans” for the New York Daily newspaper. It advocated an “outbreeding” plan to “destroy German nationalism and ideology” by using the immigration of masses of non-European male to eradicate Germans.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Hooten#The_.22Hooton_Plan.22

    Theodore N. Kaufman, authored “Germany Must Perish,” and was a Manhattan-born businessman and chairman of the “American Federation for Peace.”

    2 of the chapters in his deranged sounding screed were titled, “5. ‘Blessed Are the War Makers’: and “7. Death to Germany.”

    In one leaflet headlined, “Kill” Ehrenburg, Stalin’s propagandist, ranted:.
    The Germans are not human beings…We shall kill. If you have not killed at least one German a day, you have wasted that day… If you cannot kill your German with a bullet, kill him with your bayonet…If you kill one German, kill another – there is nothing more amusing for us than a heap of German corpses… Kill.

    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Ilya_Ehrenburg

    Germany was another victim of fanatic, antisocial, crackpot terrorists and the USA is obviously one of their agents.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Grahamsno(G64)
  321. @Mario Partisan

    It is that Zionist Jews will intimidate even those who have just done them a favor.

    Hell, it’s pretty obvious to me that they’ll set you up that way for the sheer sadistic pleasure of crapping on you when you’ve outlived your usefulness to them. (Think, for instance, Saddam, Khadafy, and several US presidents.) Then they’ll laugh all the way to the bank.

    A good thing about that is that they’ll even do it to their own, sooner or later, and I hope I’m around to see it when the Izzy first crowd of dupes gets theirs.

    They seem to just love humiliating and making fools of others.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @ChuckOrloski
  322. neutral says:
    @Realist

    If their is no solution

    Oh there is a solution, and pretty much the only solution that will finally end the jewish problem.

    • Replies: @Realist
  323. @Art

    You are looking at the solution …

    Sweet comment, Art. Looks like we “little girls” are gaining on ‘em.

    I wonder what that one’s “big” solution would be.

  324. @ChuckOrloski

    From your link.:

    It is against German law to deny the Holocaust. Breaking such a law can carry a jail term of up to five years.

    https://www.9news.com.au/world/2018/05/09/11/43/nazi-grandma-finally-jailed-for-holocaust-denial

    I think she sounds better than a denier. She a debunker.

    (And so am I. ;) )

  325. anon[283] • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    That’s a pattern, ain’t it.

    Not too far fetched to fit Incitatus’s pal Dolf into that pattern.

    First the zios tried to get Germany to help them take Palestine. Then Weizmann worked a better deal w the British & Balfour, threw Germany under the bus.

    BUT Nazis helped zios get Jews out of Germany — probably w some Jewish money.
    Jews have played this same scam for centuries — millenia. It is dumb to think Jews were not 100% complicit in starting world wars I & II for their benefit. just like Iraq war was for Jews, and Iran war is for Jews.

    On another point, Max Nordau was a great admirer of Lambroso.

  326. @Andrew E. Mathis

    I can post links too

    Have at it then.

    But I’m betting Wally’s links are far superior than any you can unearth.

    Prove me wrong and good luck.

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  327. @jacques sheete

    Jacques Sheete wisely wrote:
    “A good thing about that is that they’ll even do it to their own, sooner or later, and I hope I’m around to see it when the Izzy first crowd of dupes gets theirs.
    They seem to just love humiliating and making fools of others.”

    Hi Jacques,

    Your words above prompted me to don my “Bible Thumper” hat, and offer an additional historical-spiritual perspective based upon the thought of St. Thomas Moore and C.S. Lewis.

    Thomas Moore is the originator of the following sentence that I really like:”The Proude Spirit (Lucifer) cannot endure to be mocked.” Such is the catalyst for why & how I make ‘mocking” comments about exceptionally “proud spirits,” for one current & my favorite NeoCon example, John Bolton.

    For me though, C.S. Lewis is the Granddaddy of all “Proude Spirit” profilers.
    As author of “The Scewtape Letters,” Mr. Lewis warned ambitious Senior demons that their “Lowerarchy” CEO’s will screw their own and rejoice.

    As always, thanks very much, Jacques!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  328. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    from your link:

    encourage also the immigration and settlement in the German states of non-German nationals, especially males.[10]

    The objects of this measure include reduction of the birth rate of “pure” Germans

    something not lost on Germans is the noticeable fact that most of the migrant “refugees” flooding into Germany/Europe are single, military age young men.

    The intent behind this invasion/transformation is laughably obvious.

    And it’s no different for the Swedes or the Brits or even for the denizens of the ZUSA or ZUSA north – Canada, where the hysterical push for ‘blending’ is fanatical.

    Germany was another victim of fanatic, antisocial, crackpot terrorists and the USA is obviously one of their agents.

    well Jacques, at approximately 2% of our population, but with total control of the Federal Reserve Bank, (and consequently the entire media, Senate, courts, universities, etc..), I wonder if the other 98% of Americans might be victims of these hate-people too.

    They seem to just love humiliating

    I remember reading something a while back about the Holodomor, and why ((they)) used starvation rather than just machine gunning these people en masse, which would have been infinitely more humane.

    But slow and deliberate starvation, it was remarked, was not just cheap, but also excruciating and humiliating. Especially as these people (known for being the best producers of surplus food at the time) were forced to watch as their children wasted away in front of their eyes, day by humiliating day, until they were all finally dead.

    It takes a special kind of sadistic hatred to do that to millions of men, women and children. Not for anything they ever did to you, but simply for being what they were. Proud Gentiles of ability. Like Germans, strong, intelligent and indomitable, they drive the tribe apoplectic with netherworld envy and rage. Death is not enough for them. They must be humiliated too.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  329. @anon

    That’s a pattern, ain’t it.

    It sure is. Hard to miss, too.

    Not too far fetched to fit Incitatus’s pal Dolf into that pattern.

    Yup, but we dumb goyim are not supposed to figure that out. One of the few things I’ve come to appreciate about Stalin is that he was able to beat the scum at their own game, and that may be enough to partially exonerate him regarding his massive crimes against humanity, which in any case are crimes likely forced on him by the usual fiends.

    Hitler was undoubtedly set up and never had a chance yet to this day are tons of dufusses who think he was the problem. Go figure.

  330. @anon

    On another point, Max Nordau was a great admirer of Lambroso.

    Sounds interesting; please elaborate.

    • Replies: @anon
  331. @anon

    It is dumb to think Jews were not 100% complicit in starting world wars I & II for their benefit.

    Very true, but we still have the know-it-all genius crowd that still blames Germany for starting both, despite the fact that the truth is the opposite.

    Then there’re bits of hints such as this.:

    Every social upheaval in France, however, is bound to be thwarted by the English bourgeoisie, by Great Britain’s industrial and commercial domination of the world. Every partial social reform in France or on the European continent as a whole, if designed to be lasting, is merely a pious wish.

    Only a world war can break old England, as only this can provide the Chartists, the party of the organized English workers, with the conditions for a successful rising against their powerful oppressors. Only when the Chartists head the English government will the social revolution pass from the sphere of utopia to that of reality. But any European war in which England is involved is a world war, waged in Canada and Italy, in the East Indies and Prussia, in Africa and on the Danube. A European war will be the first result of a successful workers’ revolution in France.

    England will head the counter-revolutionary armies, just as she did during the Napoleonic period, but the war itself will place her at the head of the revolutionary movement and she will repay the debt she owes to the revolution of the eighteenth century.

    The table of contents for 1849 reads: Revolutionary rising of the French working class, world war.
    - Karl Marx, The Revolutionary Movement, Written: 31 December 1848;
    First Published: Neue Rheinische Zeitung, No. 184, 1 January 1849;
    Source: Marx and Engels: Articles from the Neue Rheinische Zeitung, Moscow 1972, pp. 205–207;
    Transcribed: Einde O’Callaghan for the Marxists Internet Archive (May 2014).

    Ed note: The table of contents for 1849 reads: Revolutionary rising of the French working class, world war.

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1849/01/01.htm

    Given hints like that, I’d love to know who desired world war? As much as I despise Marx, I find it interesting and pleasant that the Brit Empire was duped into destroying itself as he advocated.

  332. @Rurik

    Rurik, you are a true master of the word.

    Bless you.

  333. @ChuckOrloski

    Thomas Moore is the originator of the following sentence that I really like:”The Proude Spirit (Lucifer) cannot endure to be mocked.”

    Ouch!

    I suspect mockery may have driven the Maven from these here hallowed pages.
    ;)

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  334. Note to Izzy firsters and their dupes:

    These relics of a nation mercilessly trampled under foot in the course of history, as Hegel says, these residual fragments of peoples always become fanatical standard-bearers of counter-revolution and remain so until their complete extirpation or loss of their national character, just as their whole existence in general is itself a protest against a great historical revolution.

    - Karl Marx, The Magyar Struggle [221]
    ________________________________________
    Source: MECW Volume 8, p. 227;
    Written: by Engels about January 8, 1849;
    First published: in Neue Rheinische Zeitung No. 194, January 13, 1849.

    http://marxists.anu.edu.au/archive/marx/works/1849/01/13.htm

    See if you can figure out what one of your “philosophical” forebears was talking about.

  335. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Yet the proof is nowhere to befound.
    Anyone can write anything they wish, just make it up. A lot of money to be made & political power gained.
    See your cited Ordinary Men, Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution, by Zionist Browning torn apart here:

    https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=christopher+browning

    [MORE]

    Your referenced Jedwabne debunked here:
    The Changing Definition of ‘Holocaust’
    A Review

    By Richard A. Widmann

    https://codoh.com/library/document/406/?lang=en

    and:
    ‘Poles Bristle at Lingering Stigma of Holocaust / Jedwabne’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9190

    Your cited The Destruction of the Jewish Community in Jedwabne, Poland, 1941’, 2003, By Gross shot down here:
    The Debate about Neighbors
    Neighbors: The Destruction of the Jewish Community in Jedwabne, Poland by Jan T. Gross
    .

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v20/v20n3p41_Gross.html

    Since all these tales include claims that the mass grave locations are known, why don’t we see exhumations and the alleged remains?

    Of the supposedly murdered Dutch Jews, how do you know they are missing?
    How do you know they were murdered?
    Please tell us how the alleged ‘gas chambers’ worked.
    Show us the claimed humans remains in supposedly know locations.
    see:
    ‘What happened to the Dutch Jews?’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=877

    Jilles, there are tons of books making all kinds of claims about everything, what you need is unbiased research, actual proof, not claims made by Jews who profit mightily from inventing tales which serve their interests.

    Imagine in a real / legit court of law where someone claims that massive numbers of people were murdered and dumped into mass graves, but then could not produce the claimed mass graves and the alleged contents. They would be laughed out of that court.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

  336. Wally says:
    @Realist

    Gentiles are now all over it.

    You clearly have not been paying attention. LOL

    • Replies: @Realist
  337. Wally says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    Desperate Mathis does what he does best, he lies.

    Zionists will try anything to change the subject, attempt to deflect the fact that their lies are busted for all to see. Notice he cannot refute the information I post.

    I am not this ‘Hannover’.
    No doubt Mathis thinks I’m Big Foot too. LOL
    Poor Mathis, has desperately tried this before at Unz.

    Just read the links to his posts at CODOH and have a good laugh at his expense.

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4451&p=72138&hilit=mathis+thames+mulegino#p72138

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @MrB
  338. @jacques sheete

    I don’t have any interesting in debating you. Go away.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  339. gwynedd1 says:
    @L.K

    OK granted ,that was an ambiguous statement. The Alawites are a small sect of people trying to manage their own political fate. They just do not have the same resources as do the Jews. So again, as the most wonderful , persecuted , God’s chosen, helpless people in the world, that is BS.

  340. @Realist

    I am not defending Jews or Israel.

    I beg to differ. This particular discussion began with Art saying that, “Too many intellectual Americans are coerced by Jews.” You responded by saying:

    Americans are not coerced by Jews. Jews are only 2.2% of our population. Many Americans are out smarted by Jews. Jews buy our politicians and Americans allow it.

    When someone makes an allegation against another, and you step in to dispute that allegation, you are defending them. At that is true, whether or not your defense is right or wrong. Furthermore, you admit that Jews control our political system, but chalk that up to their natural superiority and deflect responsibility onto the gentile Americans who allow, and therefore deserve, it. If this is not defending Jewish supremacist behavior, it certainly constitutes excusing it. All I’m saying here is be honest and own what you are doing.

    I am not Jewish or a spokesman.

    Maybe you aren’t, but your behavior and the language you choose to use, certainly suggest that you are indeed a (((Realist))). Take the following two responses, the first made to me and the second made to Art:

    Of course Jews are responsible for their behavior and so are gentiles who allow Jews to bend them over.

    why don’t you little girls stop crying and lay back and enjoy it???

    If not explicitly, you are certainly on the verge of suggesting that the relationship between Jews and gentiles is akin to the relationship between a rapist and his victim. . Again, you are blaming the victim and deflecting responsibility from where it belongs, but here there seems to be more to it. You seem to be not just be making an analogy to rape, but actually reveling in the thought of gentiles being raped, and I can’t imagine any gentile, no matter how sympathetic to the Jews, having such a cavalier attitude towards such a thought. Consider your second statement, “stop crying and lay back and enjoy it.” One does not say that to a group to which they belong. It seems clear that you consider yourself not on the side of the raped, but on the side of the (((rapist.)))

    Finally, consider your response to Wally:

    Why do you little crying whining gentile girls allow it?

    When someone says “you redneck” they are clearly implying that they are not a redneck. When someone says “you Italians” they are not including them self in the group of Italians. Similarly, it would be very strange to hear a gentile say “you gentile” to another gentile. Your choice of words, whether you realize it or not, suggests you are indeed a (((Realist.)))

    And if you are not one, I have to wonder what your purpose is here. You dispute the allegations made against Jews; excuse their behavior; blame the victim; constantly suggest that gentiles allow themselves to be controlled, coerced, and “raped;” and you ask us for solutions, which if you were on our side, you would be offering up yourself. You are rude and offensive even to those who have shown no disrespect to you. And yet, you claim that you are not here to speak for Jews. If not, what are you trying to accomplish?

    May I suggest that it is you who need to “grow a pair,” stand by your words, and own your own behavior, like a real man?

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Realist
  341. Incitatus says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    “His [Leuchter’s] report was replicated by the much…”

    Why did Fred lie about being an engineer? Then lie again about extraordinary prosecution?

    “You have this bunch of stubborn inconvenient facts which can’t be explained. You are faced with narrative collapse and that’s why you Jail grandmothers for questioning your stupid story. It’s over no critical reader of history believes in your bullshit any longer.”

    Moi?

    Show me where I’ve preached any narrative. The Führer speaks for himself. Really gets into it in ‘Mein Kampf’ (chapter 2 volume 1):

    “Was there any shady undertaking, any form of foulness, especially in cultural life, in which at least one Jew did not participate? On putting the probing knife carefully to that kind of abscess one immediately discovered, like a maggot in a putrescent body, a little Jew who was often blinded by the sudden light.”

    Quite the physician isn’t he? Not much like Albert Schweitzer, but nobody’s perfect. There’s much, much more. All in 1925 – eight years before the 1933 boycott. As you say, a “bunch of stubborn inconvenient facts”. Omitting them from ‘Jews declare war on Germany in 1933’ spam is wise. Fingers crossed and hope readers are stupid.

    My advice to anarchyst was to lay off Fred’s phony martyrdom and engineer scam. Doesn’t play well with those legally entitled to call themselves engineers. Mums the word.

    As for your ‘Nazis good, Jews bad’ spiel, it’s as boring as the counterpart. Cats and dogs fighting again. Don’t you tire of it? But, by all means knock yourself out. Doesn’t bother me, though your frothy rant is better spent elsewhere.

  342. @Andrew E. Mathis

    I don’t have any interesting in debating you. Go away.

    You have no ability toward that end, either.

    I’m not going anywhere, so do me a favor and block me.

    PS: You still can’t provide any useful or credible links to refute what Wally posts either!

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  343. Realist says:
    @Wally

    Gentiles are now all over it.

    Then stop whining and crying.

    • Agree: Andrew E. Mathis
    • Replies: @Wally
  344. Realist says:
    @neutral

    Oh there is a solution, and pretty much the only solution that will finally end the jewish problem.

    Quite a statement from ‘neutral’.

  345. @jacques sheete

    Jacques Sheete surmised: “I suspect mockery may have driven the Maven from these here hallowed pages.”

    I agree! No doubt it was neither commenter-homage nor respect that caused the Maven Shama’s disappearance. He’s my all-time favorite obfuscator who ever appeared at U.R. comments.

    When you can, Jacques & others, please consider viewing the fascinating video below on a Rothschild-Syria connection?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  346. MrB says:
    @Momus

    Really? And on your day out to the theme park aka Auschwitz what proof specifically that convinced you that between 1.1m and 4m people were killed there?

    • Replies: @Momus
  347. MrB says:
    @Wally

    Mr Mathis never talks or debates with anyone who might make him look silly and win!

    • Replies: @Wally
  348. Realist says:
    @Mario Partisan

    I beg to differ. This particular discussion began with Art saying that, “Too many intellectual Americans are coerced by Jews.” You responded by saying:

    Americans are not coerced by Jews. Jews are only 2.2% of our population. Many Americans are out smarted by Jews. Jews buy our politicians and Americans allow it.

    Just stating the facts.

    When someone makes an allegation against another, and you step in to dispute that allegation, you are defending them.

    Logic is not your game! Just because you hate Jews doesn’t mean any allegation against them is true. You little fucks are so blinded by hatred you’ve lost your mind (in most cases not much of a loss)

    At that is true, whether or not your defense is right or wrong.

    More gibberish.

    • Troll: Rurik
  349. @jacques sheete

    OK, then, I’ll block you. I didn’t even know this was possible. Thanks for the tip.

  350. peterAUS says:
    @Realist

    Well…if I may…..this is the point in this…….not even a discussion…..where you got on the level.

    If you feel inclined and have time try to analyse …uhm…”conversation” here.
    Or re any other article re Jews.

    I guess you’ll find that…..informative.

    The best part of this site is sensible moderation resulting in free speech on Internet. Shrinking space for sure.

    Now…..observing that “speech” here one can, with ease, come to certain conclusions.

    Give it a go and, perhaps, you’ll get at least some value from all these…..ahm….”discussions”.

    I am positive that some people do that as their job.
    That opens some other possibilities but let’s leave that out.

    Do I make sense?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  351. Momus says:
    @MrB

    They’re not my numbers mate. As you well know there is a massive body of corroborating evidence, overwhelmingly widely accepted confirming what took place at Auschwitz.

    • Disagree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @anarchyst
  352. Wally says:
    @Realist

    As usual, your response makes no sense. And of course you dodge the damning info. that I post.
    We’re knocking the crap out the fake & impossible ’6M Jews’ and there’s nothing you can do about it.
    Hurts don’t it? LOL

    Another one for you:

    See more on the highly cited but fake “eyewitness” Henryk Tauber here:
    ‘Industry’s Roberto Muehlenkamp cites debunked liar Henryk Tauber as proof of Auschwitz ‘gas chambers’ !!’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11279

    http://www.codoh.com

    “Truth is hate to those that hate the truth.”

    • Replies: @Realist
  353. Momus says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Explain what you mean. Who is Quartermaster?

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  354. anarchyst says:
    @Momus

    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent Zionists colaborated with the German government and formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the “transfer” of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Absolutely nothing about extermination.

    [MORE]

    Official International Red Cross figures for all camp “deaths” total around 731,000–NOT “6 million”. In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war…

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not “add up”…

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the “yellow Star of David” armband so that they could be easily identified. German jews considered themselves Germans first and had no desire to emigrate.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. Many periodicals of the day starting with the 1800s touted the “six-million” figure.

    What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out . . .

    As cremation of ONE human body takes hours, the amount of time claimed by holocaust ™ promoters is a physical, scientific and statistical impossibility. Their claims also do not account for the “downtime” that crematoria require for maintenance, etc. In addition, there are no mass burial sites that are commensurate with the claims of “six-million” or even “one-million”. There is also a jewish prohibition on excavation of claimed possible burial sites. WHY?? Because THEY DO NOT EXIST. There is even a prohibition on the use of ground penetrating radar to search for burial sites. WHY?? If millions were gassed and cremated, the activities would have lasted well into the 1950s.

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE “KANGAROO COURTS” THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. A question for you “holocaust ™” promoters–why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth?? What are you afraid of??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a “cash cow” that “keeps on giving”. . . “there’s NO business like “SHOAH business”. Zionist complicity in this event is carefully “covered up”.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question “official” jewish “holocaust” orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the “official” jewish “holocaust” story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to “all things holocaust ™”. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment.

    The latest “vicitms” of “holocaustianity ™” are Ursula Haverbeck and Monika Schaefer, both 80 plu-year-old grandmothers who have been prosecuted and sentenced to prison in Germany for “incorrect thoughts”.

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the “chosen”) to engineer the jewish “holocaust”, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish “holocaust” was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many “holocausts” of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish “holocaust ™” is the only one that counts . . . It is interesting to note that the term “holocaust ™” to mean “mass extermination” was never used during or immediately after WW2, only coming to vogue in the 1960s, when it was noted that “guilt” could be assigned and reparations could be procured.

    Look at the “commercialization of the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish “holocaust ™” “survivors”, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean “camp” numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and “disease”–”holocaust ™ “transference syndrome”. You see, children and grandchildren of jewish “holocaust ™” survivors are infected with this “disease” and should also be considered “holocaust ™” survivors, eligible for “holocaust ™” reparations.

    Since the Zionist jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews’ declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish “homeland” for the last two-hundred years while predicting a “holocaust ™” of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures). The International Red Cross had full access to all of the camps for the duration of the war, yet reported NOT ONE INSTANCE of extermination or mass murder.

    Regarding that “holocaust ™” “showplace” Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called “gas chambers”. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called “gassing” took place”. There is a “gas chamber” chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the “operators” of these supposed “gas chambers”. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these “camps”.

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported “gas chambers”, had them tested and published his results. The absence of Prussian blue (ferricyanide) in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the “gas chambers” did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the “chimney” for the supposed “gas chamber” does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used vindictively before or since. . .After his report was published, he was harassed by Israeli “deep state” types (mossad) who he successfully “outed”.

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to “create” the “death camps” for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were “liberated” by the “allies”, the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be “liberated” by the Russian “allies”.

    It is said that “the light of day is the best disinfectant in the search for truth” Unfortunately this quote does not apply to “all things holocaust ™”. It appears that there are those “holocaust ™” promoters who are afraid of the TRUTH. Hence the prosecution and incarceration of those who dare question aspects of this historical event.

    I urge all “holocaust ™” believers to check these things out for yourselves–IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find…

    • Replies: @Momus
  355. L.K says:
    @Mario Partisan

    Another great post, Mario….

    But you have to understand you are dealing with ‘realist-NOT’, an obvious agent-provocateur and Zionist shill.
    Obviously, courtesy & reason do not work at all with these scumbags…

    Btw, this whole notion that we are just “whining”(at a comment section!) and “what are we gonna do about it”, is just part of the game some of the hasbarists play…

    RealistNot must have frequented the same hasbara courses as ‘corvinus’ and the other types who use this type of provocation here at Unz…

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  356. @peterAUS

    peter AUS asked (Sur)Realist:.

    “Do I make sense?”

    Hi Peter AUS,

    Be careful now, ’cause trying to educate & protect Realist here @ U.R. comment-department is a full-time job.

  357. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    Hello Incitatus!

    Three whole moons spent away from the media, save local prints, have done for me, that which I can heartily recommend to all souls seeking a bit of solace. I say solace, for I lost my friend Sebastien; who crossed the seas from Zeebrugge, Belgium, twelve years ago, to be with us. He stood a full seventeen hands at the withers and, a more virile fourteen-year-old you will not find; we stumbled at a few events but sailed over countless more: none that he brooked in trepidation, none that eluded his customary esprit. Sebastien was my favourite eventer. May G’d rest his spirit.

    Incitatus, I am glad to have found you commenting on Mr Giraldi’s most recent, although I haven’t spotted Iffen, yet.

    To all my former interlocutors, I offer my greetings and can assure them I haven’t engaged in any occult vices they may have silently accused me of. On the contrary, I have opened the gates of my farm to neighbours: we toil together. Local farm produce (including raw dairy), simple and primal, can be an answer to many of our troubles.

    Cheers

  358. @Wally

    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2010/02/codoh-forum-that-moderated-itself-to.html

    Cue link from CODOH on “what has been censored here if anything” — a textbook example of begging the question.

    Of course, CODOH doesn’t censor the opposition; it says so right over there at CODOH!

    • Replies: @Wally
  359. Incitatus says:
    @anarchyst

    “Remember who declared war on Germany in the 2nd World war?”

    Let me guess. Britain and France? Don’t think it was the USSR. Or North Africa. Or Yugoslavia. Or Greece. Or Belgium. Or Luxembourg. Or Denmark. Or Norway. Or Poland. Or Czechoslovakia. Or Sudetenland. Or Austria. Or Republican Spain. Or the Rheinland. Your point? War declarations, like territorial promises, didn’t seem to matter much to the Nazis.

    Technically, of course, Germany had long been in breach of Versailles. A de facto state of war. A harsh treaty, though less unpleasant than Brest-Litovsk or Bismarck’s pound of French flesh. Germany signed and weaseled from day one. Evading Reichswehr limits with the Freikorps and other militias, rearmament, conscription, the Rheinland, default on payments, etc. Never even paid what they extorted from France in 1871.

    “Judea declares War on Germany.”–Daily Express, March 24, 1934”

    Sure it wasn’t 24 March 1933? The same day the Enabling Act (Gesetz zur Behebung der Not von Volk und Reich) was passed by the Reichstag and Reichsrat and signed by President Paul von Hindenburg? Himmler, ever helpful Heinrich, established the first concentration camp for those “who endanger state security” at Dachau the same day. Guess who decided who was ‘dangerous’?

    Ironic, isn’t it? AIPAC, frantic about BDS, tries to deny Americans 1st Amendment rights and outlaw the very method Jews embraced. I have no sympathy with AIPAC, Netanyahu, or Likud Israel. Quite the opposite. Washington’s caution against ‘passionate attachments’ is wisdom itself.

    Doesn’t mean I want to don a brownshirt. Sorry.

    I’m curious anarchist. How do you regard Operation Hummingbird (30 Jun – 2 Jul 1934)? Does the extra-judicial killing of 150-200 Germans – many faithful Nazi Party members – bother you? Former Chancellor Kurt von Schleicher and his wife? You and Wally OK with it?

    How about Aktion T4, which murdered 200,000+ Germans (useless eaters)? Want to bring the same unthinking justice to the US? Bestow on Americans the same gift Nazi leadership gave normal Germans?

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Wally
  360. Realist says:
    @Wally

    We’re knocking the crap out the fake & impossible ’6M Jews’ and there’s nothing you can do about it.
    Hurts don’t it? LOL

    Ya I’m heart sick about it. Why would think I care about that subject….it happened over 70 years ago?

    See more on the highly cited but fake “eyewitness” Henryk Tauber here:
    ‘Industry’s Roberto Muehlenkamp cites debunked liar Henryk Tauber as proof of Auschwitz ‘gas chambers’ !!’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11279

    http://www.codoh.com

    “Truth is hate to those that hate the truth.”

    Stop you’re killing me.

  361. anon[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/51161/51161-h/51161-h.htm

    DEGENERATION
    BY Max Nordau

    London, 1898

    [Dedicated] TO PROFESSOR CÆSAR LOMBROSO,
    TURIN.

    Dear and honoured Master,

    I dedicate this book to you, in open and joyful recognition of the fact that without your labours it could never have been written.

    The notion of degeneracy, first introduced into science by Morel, and developed with so much genius by yourself, has in your hands already shown itself extremely fertile in the most diverse directions. On numerous obscure points of psychiatry, criminal law, politics, and sociology, you have poured a veritable flood of light, which those alone have not perceived who obdurately close their eyes, or who are too short-sighted to derive benefit from any enlightenment whatsoever.

    But there is a vast and important domain into which neither you nor your disciples have hitherto borne the torch of your method—the domain of art and literature.

    Degenerates are not always criminals, prostitutes, anarchists, and pronounced lunatics; they are often authors and artists. These, however, manifest the same mental characteristics, and for the most part the same somatic features, as the members of the above-mentioned anthropological family, who satisfy their unhealthy impulses with the knife of the assassin or the bomb of the dynamiter, instead of with pen and pencil.

    Some among these degenerates in literature, music, and painting have in recent years come into extraordinary prominence, and are[viii] revered by numerous admirers as creators of a new art, and heralds of the coming centuries.

    This phenomenon is not to be disregarded. Books and works of art exercise a powerful suggestion on the masses. It is from these productions that an age derives its ideals of morality and beauty. If they are absurd and anti-social, they exert a disturbing and corrupting influence on the views of a whole generation. Hence the latter, especially the impressionable youth, easily excited to enthusiasm for all that is strange and seemingly new, must be warned and enlightened as to the real nature of the creations so blindly admired. This warning the ordinary critic does not give. Exclusively literary and æsthetic culture is, moreover, the worst preparation conceivable for a true knowledge of the pathological character of the works of degenerates. The verbose rhetorician exposes with more or less grace, or cleverness, the subjective impressions received from the works he criticises, but is incapable of judging if these works are the productions of a shattered brain, and also the nature of the mental disturbance expressing itself by them.

    Now I have undertaken the work of investigating (as much as possible after your method), the tendencies of the fashions in art and literature; of proving that they have their source in the degeneracy of their authors, and that the enthusiasm of their admirers is for manifestations of more or less pronounced moral insanity, imbecility, and dementia.

    Thus, this book is an attempt at a really scientific criticism, which does not base its judgment of a book upon the purely accidental, capricious and variable emotions it awakens—emotions depending on the temperament and mood of the individual reader—but upon the psycho-physiological elements from which it sprang. At the same time it ventures to fill a void still existing in your powerful system. . . .

    . . . it gets worse. Read on as your health allows.

    While Herzl is broadly acclaimed as the father of zionism, Nordau was the brains behind the fragile psych of Herzl. After Herzl’s frenzied appeal to Nordau, the latter, a physician and psychiatrist (of the era and that era’s knowledge limitations and conceits), became persuaded by Herzl’s passion and agreed to collaborate in writing Der Judenstaat.

    Each man was crazy in his own way; together they did not compose one sane man but an exponentiation of psychosis. Degeneracy.

  362. @Sam Shama

    the Maven Shama announced: “I say solace, for I lost my friend Sebastien; who crossed the seas from Zeebrugge, Belgium, twelve years ago, to be with us.”

    Welcome back, Maven, and I am truly sorry Sebastien’s hour arrived to depart The Hasbara Cowboy Ranch.

    Had the hard-working & dumb horse “Boxer” prematurely expired, Napoleon in Orwell’s “Animal Farm,” would have felt your utility pain.

    Regarding M.I.A. “iffen,” f.y.i, he encountered insurmountable hurdles here at Giraldi article (U.R.) comment section, and you might want to send him a “farm produce” food basket & help cheer him up. Of course, C.O.D.!

  363. Realist says:
    @Mario Partisan

    To my knowledge there is no race on the planet that carries individual freedom (individualism) and anti-identitarianism to the point of racial suicide, other than White gentiles. To me that is stupid. The Jews sure as hell don’t do it. The Asians don’t do it. Even the Blacks don’t do it.

    The fact that some Jews use their tribalism for duplicitous means is not excusable, but the fact that White gentiles allow it is also not excusable in fact it is stupid and will bring an end to Western civilization. Jews are smart enough to see our weakness and devious enough to use it.

    Whites must embrace identitarianism while at the same time retain some of the individualism that has made Western civilization so great. One doesn’t necessarily preclude the other. Individualism has spawned innovation in the West as in no other civilization, but forfeiting tribalism in grave matters of survival is stupid.

    For many hundreds of years Jews have survived in spite of the immense hatred toward them due to the fact that some Jews lie, cheat, are corrupt and take advantage of others. While their demographics have been against them they have survived because they are smart enough to remain tribal.

    I am not suggesting that Whites emulate Jewish subterfuge, just adapt a more tribal/identitarian attitude.

    White gentiles are not being coerced…..grow a pair.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @peterAUS
  364. renfro says:
    @Realist

    But why do Americans allow Jews to do that??? Why do Americans elect Jewish sycophants???

    Because not enough Americans know what they are doing in the US .

    If they did know it would be different.

    • Agree: Realist
  365. Anonymous[385] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s a fact that the Jewish lobby has long lobbied against US recognition of the Armenian genocide committed by Turkey in 1915+.

    The Jewish lobby is jealous that the genocide of Christian Armenians happened BEFORE the Holocaust.

    Another reason is that Israel was, and really still is, politically close to Turkey even if you don’t believe it. They both hate Iran and want to overthrow Syria’s Assad. That’s just 2 examples.

    The Jewish lobby has also helped Turkey defeat Armenian genocide resolutions in Washington.

    Even Jewish Americans have been disgusted by this.

    I would like to see Mr. Giraldi discuss this matter.

  366. Miro23 says:
    @Realist

    To my knowledge there is no race on the planet that carries individual freedom (individualism) and anti-identitarianism to the point of racial suicide, other than White gentiles. To me that is stupid. The Jews sure as hell don’t do it. The Asians don’t do it. Even the Blacks don’t do it.

    It’s to do with the “niceness” of Teaching the World to Sing, or We Are the World. Old Hippy ideas that disconnect from reality and surely destroy gentile US society. US whites suffer from a surfeit of decadent niceness,

    • Replies: @Realist
  367. anarchyst says:
    @Incitatus

    Thank you for your concise response.
    No, I have no desire to be a “brownshirt” Yes, there were Nazi excesses before the war.

    The Treaty of Versailles had sown the seeds for WW2 as the average German did not have a pot to p!ss in, while his wealthy jewish neighbors, international banksters, and outside elements were systematically raping and looting the country. Let’s not forget the rampant social debauchery by “the ruling class” (mostly jews) along with the many civil disturbances by Bolshevik immigrants (again jews) from the east, pushing social unrest. Hitler was also a product of the 1st world war and saw his people being systematically abused. If the proprietors of the art school he attended had paid more attention and given proper credit to his work, he might have been an artist, rather than the leader of Germany.

    Here are quotes from jewish elements who pushed the declaration of war on Germany: “Remember who declared war on Germany in the 2nd World war:
    And who imposed a boycott on German Goods ?”

    “Judea declares War on Germany.”–Daily Express, March 24, 1933

    “The fight against Germany has now been waged for months by every Jewish
    community, on every conference, in all labor unions and by every single Jew in the world. There are reasons for the assumption that our share in this fight is of general importance. We shall start a spiritual and material war of the whole world against Germany. Germany is striving to become once again a great nation, and to recover her lost territories as well as her colonies. But our Jewish interests call for the complete destruction of Germany…”–Valadimir Jabotinsky, in Mascha Rjetsch, January, 1934

    “Germany is the enemy of Judaism and must be pursued with deadly hatred. The goal of Judaism of today is: a merciless campaign against all German peoples and the complete destruction of the nation. We demand a complete blockade of trade, the importation of raw materials stopped, and retaliation towards every German, woman and child.”–Jewish professor A. Kulischer, October, 1937. The first “concentration camps were invented by the British in the Boer war. German concentration camps (actually labor camps) were a response to the declaration of war. Then, it was standard practice to remove your enemies who declared themselves to be as such, from society.

    Every country has its own equivalent to Operation Hummingbird. To wit, the sieges at Ruby Ridge, Waco, Gordon Kahl, and other extrajudicial murders “of undesirables” by our government right here in the “good ol’ USA”. The government agents who perpetrated these atrocities were all rewarded with bonuses and promotions. and “got away with it”. Not OK with it…

    Aktion T4…eugenics was an idea born here in the good ol’ USA, once again and it was exported to Europe and was implemented by the Nazis. In fact, court-ordered forced sterilizations are still legal here in the USA…the “supreme court” has ruled as such…

    On a somewhat personal note, my relatives who lived in eastern Europe during those turbulent times described the Germans as very polite, asking them to stay indoors during troop movements. The German troops were no different than many others, treating children , women, and the (non-jewish) menfolk with kindness and great respect. German troops were given “tips” where to find the jewish commissars and other social leeches who were systematically abusing the ordinary citizens.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  368. peterAUS says:
    @Realist

    Agree, of course.

    But, sounds complicated. People don’t like that. They like simple truths, preferably in short sentences. Like “Dem Joos”.

    It would be good to address that, but, save McDonald, can’t see I’ve seen much of a debate there. That complicity people like to see as “traitors, bought up, blah, blah”.

    My theory?
    Simple.

    It’s not even complicity. “They”, our elites at the time, created it.

    It was used to solidify the victory of WW2. We, of course, still live in the world defined by that victory.
    The victors made all the rules. They still make the rules, effectively rule the world.

    Then, it was used to pacify domestic population. To solidify power within and just to make money (immigration, cheap labor etc).

    And, hehe…..the genie got out of bottle. They didn’t see it coming.

    In essence they (the victors) used that tool for their own benefit. By its very nature own the tool got taken away.

    So you are not quite correct in:

    White gentiles are not being coerced…..grow a pair.

    They are…now. By own invention.
    Carma is a bitch some say.

    So here we are.
    That all isn’t that important.
    Important is, as you try to point out here (good luck with that) what to do about it.

    I have no idea. Practical idea I mean. Could join the endless blabbing but have better things to do.

    • Replies: @Realist
  369. Rurik says:

    “Things are about to get Biblical,” Rabbi Winston told Breaking Israel news.

    “Some people thought the Bible was dead. They thought they could sit back and relax.

    “That is clearly not the case in Syria and soon, that will be clear to everyone.”

    He said confrontation between Israel and Iran is not a “normal political crisis” but rather “this is a Biblically based, prophetic crisis”.

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/701985/iran-israel-war-us-syria-nuclear-deal-middle-east-ayatollah-rabbi-bible-apocalypse

    “This is a Biblically based, prophetic crisis.”

    He accused Iran of having a goal of simply “watching the world burn” and with an “ultimate goal to wipe out all of God’s holiness”.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  370. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Sam! Welcome back! It’s been dull without you.

    Sorry to hear of Sebastien. Zeebrugge? Think of yachts and shipyards rather than horse breeding. Go figure!

    Iffen, like me, seems occasional but hopefully undiminished (hello Iffen). Speaking for myself, there’s a limit to Unz’s Ant Farm. Only so much time subterranean before one needs sunlight.

    You’ll be pleased Chuck (hello Chuck) is inspired by Echo, the Hellene mountain nymph. Every post repeats his interlocutor in the third person, spiced up with a mild descriptive personal insult for enemies. Wish the humor went deeper, but we can’t have everything.

    “Local farm produce (including raw dairy), simple and primal, can be an answer to many of our troubles.”

    St-Albray, Morbier, Racelette (de France), Tomme de Savoie, Mimolette, etc. One can do much worse. Velveeta (death by the slice). Let alone S2C and L.K’s favorite – Chef Boyardee (heart attack in a can).

    Stay well Sam.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Sam Shama
  371. Miro23 says:
    @mark green

    Am I leaving anything out?

    Yes, 100% Racist – Jews and Israel first through lobbying, corruption, blackmail, bribes, threats, nepotism, smear campaigns, False Flags, ME wars, FED QE debt creation and MSM propaganda.

    • Replies: @Wally
  372. anarchyst says:
    @Rurik

    Let’s look at another biblical aspect of Israel. The “mark of the beast” (666) is evident in the Israeli flag. 6 triangles, 6 points, and a 6-sided hexagon in the center…666

  373. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    To all my former interlocutors, I offer my greetings…

    Welcome back, Sam.

    Look forward to resuming where we had left off.

    A lot has transpired in the last 3 months. I think it was your contention that there would be no war/attack on Iran. Are you still of that mind, given all the hawks with whom Trump has surrounded himself? Speaking of Trump, it has become increasingly clear why you were such a big booster from the get-go… some even refer to him as the first Jewish President… and now The Dumb Goyim, including myself, all know why.

    Finally, curious to see if your dissembling skills have diminished at all while on sabbatical or whether you’ve kept them sharp by dueling with your farm neighbours. You’re gonna need them, if they hit the 7th country on the Zionist hit list.

    Best

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  374. The more real, verifiable information I read here at the UR, not to mention the many thoughtful well laid out comments, makes me sick to the gut about the JQ. It has now become abundantly clear why Jesus referred to this nation as the “synagogue of Satan”. At times I am filled with a terrible mix of intense despair, hatred and confusion about what has come about and I sometimes reminisce about “simpler” times of joyful ignorance. Now with the kind of knowledge that has seeped into me, I kind of notice a pattern about this. So much so that I cannot look at any Juuish person the way I used to before. Thankfully I no longer live in the “belly of the beast” and don’t have to face them on an almost daily basis.

    I do not want to house such intense hatred inside my bosom as that would be very much against the teachings of the prince of peace nor do I want to lose my objectivity while dealing with people. But the more I learn about these “folks”, the more disgust and seething anger burns deep in my heart. The lord have mercy.

  375. Wally says:
    @Miro23

    said:
    “Yes, 100% Racist”,
    and violently so.

    Israeli racist message T-shirt: ‘kill pregnant arab = killing 2 Arabs’
    1 shot, 2 kills:
    and:
    “Killing Arabs is not racist, it’s Values”

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuD2hOyS-CuECYWfaov7sayx4CXTs6nIGspGXVweyF0nnFzEWr

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
  376. Realist says:
    @peterAUS

    But, sounds complicated. People don’t like that. They like simple truths, preferably in short sentences. Like “Dem Joos”.

    Totally agree. But life can be complicated, that is where rational, realistic, intelligent people thrive.

    It would be good to address that, but, save McDonald, can’t see I’ve seen much of a debate there

    I am a fan of Kevin’s..

    It was used to solidify the victory of WW2. We, of course, still live in the world defined by that victory.
    The victors made all the rules. They still make the rules, effectively rule the world.

    Yes.

    White gentiles are not being coerced…..grow a pair.

    They are…now. By own invention.
    Carma is a bitch some say.

    You say coerced….I say tricked.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  377. @Realist

    “I am not Jewish or a spokesman.”

    You’re not a realist either.

    • Replies: @Realist
  378. Realist says:
    @Miro23

    US whites suffer from a surfeit of decadent niceness,

    I would say White gentiles suffer from a surfeit of decadent niceness, but to others not their own.

  379. @ChuckOrloski

    When you can, Jacques & others, please consider viewing the fascinating video below on a Rothschild-Syria connection?

    Chuck, could you offer a summary? There ain’t no way I’ll sit still for a 37 minute vid, especially when it starts out with dramatic music and spinning/ flashing graphics, which to me are a total waste of time.

    Note to vid makers.: Some of us aren’t into razzle dazzle and drama, and all we want are the facts, so get to’em. “Edit” buttons are there for good reasons. I’m not easily impressed and about the only thing that does it for me is getting to the point quickly.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  380. @Momus

    Perhaps I was mistaken. Are you and Michael Kenny having a competition?

    • Replies: @Momus
  381. @Sam Shama

    Ha! I knew the Mave couldn’t stay away! Undoubtedly lurking the whole time, and now apparently ready to begin dumping even bigger loads of horse droppings on us dumb goyim.

    Yeehaw!

  382. @Incitatus

    InZit mused:
    “Speaking for myself, there’s a limit to Unz’s Ant Farm.”

    An Ode To Black Ant Lives Matter

    Sound Ashkenazi ram-horn alarm,
    come picnic at Unz’s Ant Farm!
    All ‘ya can eat, chickenhawk parm,
    & only Gina Haspel can do you harm.

    • LOL: HogHappenin
  383. Realist says:

    A little quiz.

    Out of all the races/cultures/ethnic groups listed below which one will readily in fact blithely throw their own kind “under the bus”?

    Hint there is only one.

    A. Chinese
    B. Australian Aborigines
    C. Jews
    D. White Gentiles
    E. Black Africans
    F. American Blacks
    G. North American Aborigines
    H. Japanese

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  384. @jacques sheete

    Dear Sir,

    They have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams, the Prussian/German general staff the greatest martial institution in history is gone, vanished forever. German masculinity has been forever crushed by the blood libel of the phony holocaust. I hope that they rediscover their ancient warrior pride.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  385. @Wally

    What a bunch of sick sons of bitches, these vile supremacists when confronted with their bigotry will always bring up their phony Holocau$t. What a revolting people how can you celebrate the murder of pregnant women – the givers of life? How fucking sick have you to be to wear a tshirt celebrating the murder of pregnant women – revolting filth. “One shot two kills” should be tattooed on their foreheads, such sick fucks.

  386. Wally says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    BINGO!

    All debates with Jews & their Cultural Marxists end up at fake Auschwitz.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1


    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau

  387. @Incitatus

    Why did Fred lie about being an engineer? Then lie again about extraordinary prosecution?

    You completely miss the spirit behind the Leuchter report – Fred was America’s chief executioner, a really nasty Job. He did this nasty Job for decades and was recruited by Zundel to audit Auschwitz, he basically viewed these facilities with a cold blooded executioners eyes and said what the fuck you got to be joking there’s no way an assembly line industrial slaughter could have taken place in these primitive facilities. Compare Auschwitz with American execution chambers which have steel submarine hatch style doors with the wooden ones in Auschwitz which could have been easily broken by 50 panic stricken condemned easily.

    Oh and by the way he was the first investigator of these alleged Chemical Slaughterhouses something astonishing isn’t that the worlds ‘best documented Genocide’ had to wait 60 years before an expert opinion and gasp no abnormal Zyklon B traces found in Krema 2 – a brutal kick in the balls to the standard Holocau$t narrative.

    “Was there any shady undertaking, any form of foulness, especially in cultural life, in which at least one Jew did not participate? On putting the probing knife carefully to that kind of abscess one immediately discovered, like a maggot in a putrescent body, a little Jew who was often blinded by the sudden light.”

    Sure he was a nasty antisemite but given the ways Jews behave in America can you honestly blame him.

  388. Momus says:
    @anarchyst

    Blod.

    Lots of people, mainly Jews, were murdered at Auschwitz. They were beaten, shot, starved, diseased, gassed, frozen; you name it, as part of a systematic attempt by the Nazis to exterminate European Jews.

    The evidence is incontrovertible and overwhelming.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Wally
    , @L.K
  389. Momus says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Who is Michael Kenny?

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  390. @Grahamsno(G64)

    I hope that they rediscover their ancient warrior pride.

    I hope so too.

    Guess which “race” Hooten was…Too bad he didn’t try to breed the hostility, immaturity and egocentrism out of his racemates instead.

  391. @anon

    Thank you so much for that.

    While I have some knowledge of Nordau, I never heard of the other quack, Lombroso, before your comment. I agree that only a degenerate would call another degenerate,”Dear and honoured Master” and then continue on effusively praising it thus, “…developed with so much genius by yourself, has in your hands already shown itself extremely fertile in the most diverse directions.”

    The odd thing is that Nordau’s comments regarding degeneracy in art and literature seem fairly accurate, though he could have accurately extended the same criticism to politics, banking, schooling, science, religion, and several other areas of human endeavor as well.

    Most fascinating, and thanks again.

  392. @Momus

    They are other commenters here and I had assumed that you, Quartermaster and Michael Kenny had some sort of a competition or wager going on here at The Unz Review. Sorry, I must have been mistaken.

  393. @Momus

    The evidence is incontrovertible and overwhelming.

    Citation, please.

    Or is it written somewhere in the Torah, which we all know is based on, (ahem), undeniable historical fact?

    I bet you believe in the Easter Bunny too, huh?

  394. @anon

    I find it fascinating that a bigwig Zionist “scientist” would write something like this…

    Now I have undertaken the work of investigating (as much as possible after your method), the tendencies of the fashions in art and literature; of proving that they have their source in the degeneracy of their authors, and that the enthusiasm of their admirers is for manifestations of more or less pronounced moral insanity, imbecility, and dementia.

    …and apparently not recognize the degeneration, which he so accurately describes, in the authors and supporters of the violent Zionist project. It’s pretty obvious that they were and continue to be, prime examples of “pronounced moral insanity, imbecility, and dementia.”,

    I wonder if cowboy Mave will comment on this or if he’s just here to yap obnoxiously about horses on a thread that has nothing, whatever, to do with the quadruped variety in another transparent and futile attempt to lure dumb goyim into spasms of envy, which is typically something that a degenerate would do.

  395. @anon

    So the lampshade crew weren’t too original, it seems.

    The corpse of the murderer Pranzini after execution underwent autopsy. The head of the secret police cuts off a large piece of skin, has it tanned, and the leather made into cigar cases and card-cases for himself and some of his friends. Fin-de-siecle official.

    -Max Nordau, Degeneration, p.4

    https://ia802205.us.archive.org/2/items/degeneration035137mbp/degeneration035137mbp.pdf

    I wonder, did he ever perceive that Zionists in general and would he have recognized that the Israeli variety in particular were fin-de-siecle people?

    • Replies: @Anon
  396. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    said:
    ” The Führer speaks for himself. Really gets into it in ‘Mein Kampf’ (chapter 2 volume 1):

    “Was there any shady undertaking, any form of foulness, especially in cultural life, in which at least one Jew did not participate? On putting the probing knife carefully to that kind of abscess one immediately discovered, like a maggot in a putrescent body, a little Jew who was often blinded by the sudden light.”

    Who ‘translated’ that version? Oops
    Where are the claimed human remains of ’6M Jews & 5M others’? Oops
    Tell us how the alleged & impossible ‘gas chambers’ worked. Oops.
    - Kruschev said “We will bury you.”
    - Ayatollah Khomeini called the US the “Great Satan”.

    Real documents, read below, The Schlegelberger DocumentMr Reich Minister Lammers informed me that the Führer had repeatedly declared to him that he wants to hear that the Solution of the Jewish Problem has been postponed until after the war is over. That being so, the current discussions are of purely theoretical value, in Mr Reich Minister Lammers’ opinion. He will moreover take pains to ensure that, whatever else happens, no fundamental decisions are taken without his knowledge in consequence of a surprise briefing by any third party.

    Document’s origins. Schlegelberger’s undated minute on Lammer’s reference to Hitler’s ruling is in German Federal Archives (BA) file R.22/52. It was sent to Staatssekretär Freisler and two other officials (bottom left). This document has been published in facsimile in David Irving’s books Hitler’s War, Goebbels. Mastermind of the Third Reich, and Nuremberg, the Last Battle. It was definitely dated March or April 1942. Lammers was in Berlin on April 26, 1942. See Scheel’s report on a talk between Lammers and Meissner after the final session that day (T175/139/7479 et seq.)

    In support of the Schlegelberger Document see the Luther Memorandum:

    http://www.codoh.com/library/document/154/

    Hitler, the ‘Final Solution,’ and the Luther Memorandum
    A Response to Evans and Longerich
    excerpt:
    On the occasion of a reception by the Reich Foreign Minister on 26 November 1941 the Bulgarian Foreign Minister Popoff touched on the problem of according like treatment to the Jews of European nationalities and pointed out the difficulties that the Bulgarians had in the application of their Jewish laws to Jews of foreign nationality.”

    “The Reich Foreign Minister answered that he thought this question brought by Mr. Popoff not uninteresting. Even now he could say one thing to him, that at the end of the war all Jews would have to leave Europe. This was the unalterable decision of the Fuehrer and also the only way to master this problem, as only a global and comprehensive solution could be applied and individual measures would not help very much.</i?"

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  397. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    Shyster ‘holocau$t historian’, Raoul Hilberg, lied when claimed to be a historian.

    Hilberg has no degree in History.

    http://www.codoh.com

  398. Wally says:
    @Momus

    said:
    :Lots of people, mainly Jews, were murdered at Auschwitz. They were beaten, shot, starved, diseased, gassed, frozen; you name it, as part of a systematic attempt by the Nazis to exterminate European Jews.”

    No they weren’t. Prove it … if you can. Quit the childish dodging.
    Show us the claimed Jew remains in claimed known locations.
    Tell us why the outbound train records have gone missing.
    Lots of people were murdered by witches too.

    [MORE]

    healthy Jews at Auschwitz ‘liberation’:

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where thousands of Jews chose to be left behind when the Germans left.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where most of the inmates, more thousands, chose to leave WITH the Germans.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where 1,250,000 human remains are supposedly buried, but no one can show us these remains.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where the absurdly alleged homicidal ‘gas chambers’ could not have worked as alleged, as proven repeatedly, scientifically.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where fake ‘gas chambers’ were “reconstructed” AFTER THE WAR.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where detailed aerial photos of the period show nothing that is alleged to have been happening.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where there are even obvious, laughable attempts to tamper with aerial photos that make a mockery of the fake storyline.
    see:
    ‘Auschwitz Aerial photos, tampered with to fit the fake story’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11669&p=87558

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where there were / are countless Jew “survivors”.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where so called “survivors” say the most impossible and conflicting things that do not hold up to scrutiny, would be laughed out of a legit court of law.

    The “Holocau$t Industry” in court:
    ‘Please your honor, there really are remains of millions buried in huge mass graves, we know where the mass graves are, … but, but, well, umm, we can’t show the court the human remains. You must trust us, we’re Zionists.’

    http://www.codoh.com

  399. geokat62 says:

    Latest instalment from Jane Eisner, editor-in-chief of Jewish magazine, the Forward.

    Concluding paragraph from Israel May Love Trump’s Policies. But They’re An Affront To American — And Jewish — Values:

    Trump and Netanyahu own the region now. Trump did what he wanted, and Netanyahu got what he wanted. And perhaps only God knows what will happen next.

    https://forward.com/opinion/400912/how-moving-the-embassy-and-nixing-the-iran-deal-challenge-american-jewish/

    I’d make two corrections:

    Trump did what The Lobby wanted and The Lobby is in a better position to know “what will happen next.”

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  400. Anon[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @jacques sheete

    “Degeration” is teaahing me to abjure Presentism and try to understand what was going in in the context of the times.

    Nordau observed, assessed and wrote about the status and characteristics of the Jewish people at that time. In that time, Nordau observed that the mass of Jews were “degenerated.” Physically, morally, psychologically, socially, within their own communities.

    This is extremely important to take aboard, and it coordinates with Incitatus pal Wolf’s observations: Jews as a community were a mess.

    Arthur Ruppin “created” Hebrew culture in Palestine; a eugenicist, Ruppin’s vision and practice were to 1, carefully define and select the human material appropriate to 2. create the New Jew — the penultimate object of the Zionist project.

    Since we have the writings of the Jews who built zionism, it is valid to analyze the foundation they designed, then construct the history on that base.

    It seems reasonable to realize that Zionists selected the “healthy” Jews they wished to save, and those they were willing to allow to be ‘holocausted.’

    The most important group that MUST NOT ‘deny the holocaust is Jews, — they must never be allowed to fully appreciate that, to the extent Jews were killed in WWII, it was at very least with the knowledge forethought of Big Jews, and sometimes by actual arrangement .In my opinion, it’s entirely plausible that, i.e. Eichmann was ‘employed by Zionists. This explains why holocaust became a Thing after the Eichmann trial.

    Just for starters.

  401. @jacques sheete

    Just start watching at 20:00 to understand why Trump is being pushed around.

  402. @Wally

    Neither do you. Neither do most deniers. Mark Weber has one and he gave up denial. What about that?

    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
    , @Wally
  403. @geokat62

    geokat wrote wisely:
    “Trump did what The Lobby wanted and The Lobby is in a better position to know “what will happen next.”

    Hi geo,

    There is a report on today’s Bloomberg about a meeting involving Netanyahu and President Putin. They cordially discussed the Jew’s “no-no” issue of Russia’s alleged plan to give missiles to Assad’s Syria.

    Regret that I failed at “copy & paste” but perhaps you can access the confounding article & take it in?

    I realize even Top-Gun commenters here will shy away from this comment, but W.T.F.?

    This ain’t a Senate Intelligence Committee Q&A, and The U.R. does not have a goon squad to make me “zip it.”

    So, geo, can either you or another astute commenter please help me do some decipherin’?

    I am in awe how such a criminally indicted-prick like Netanyahu, Trump’s Blood(y) Brother, can deal (partner?) with President Putin, while simultaneously, elite secular ZUS Jew’s would love to dispatch President Donald Trump back to CBS’s “The Apprentice.”

    Israel takes unaccountable (!) pot shots at Syrian & Iranian targets who are presumably Russia’s allies. Afterward. Putin gets a bit pissed and announces a S-300 gift to the Israeli-besieged Assad government.

    W.T.F. is going on, geo? As you wrote, “What will happen next?”

    (Zigh) Maybe Hezbollah’s Mighty Nusrallah is in awe more than me.

    Thanks!

    • Replies: @geokat62
  404. @Andrew E. Mathis

    You can’t win this, but thanks for trying.

  405. Wally says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    Neither do you. LOL

    Can’t ‘deny’ the laughably impossible claims that did not / could not happen.

    We rely on science and rational thought, you … not so much.

    Your wrong about Weber, he has not given up Revisionism, but you’re wrong about everything, as can be seen in your CODOH posts.*
    Of course you are a Zionist, so there it is.

    We do note your inability to respond to the tons of ‘holocau$t’ damning information posted here.

    * Andrew Mathis clobbered here:

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4451&p=72138&hilit=mathis+thames+mulegino#p72138

    Scholar Dr. Arthur Robert Butz has aptly stated:
    “The ‘Holocaust’ is such a gigantic fraud that it is a cornucopia of absurdities.”

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  406. peterAUS says:
    @Realist

    You say coerced….I say tricked.

    That is where we disagree.

    The system in place, built by white elites, actively coerce whites into compliance.

    Do a test.
    Say, corporate environment, multiracial/multicultural setting, say, an informal meeting.
    When you say “race based complaint”, who, in your own mind, is instantly, the likely TARGET of the complaint? Which group is the most afraid of that accusation? If you believe it’s not whites, well…..free will brother.

    And, that accusation is pretty much, currently, good enough to lose your job.

    So, coercion definitely exists and it’s getting worse.

    Re the rest of your comments:

    I would say White gentiles suffer from a surfeit of decadent niceness, but to others not their own.

    Agree.

    As for

    Out of all the races/cultures/ethnic groups listed below which one will readily in fact blithely throw their own kind “under the bus”?

    Hint there is only one.

    A. Chinese
    B. Australian Aborigines
    C. Jews
    D. White Gentiles
    E. Black Africans
    F. American Blacks
    G. North American Aborigines
    H. Japanese

    I believe all of them, at varying level.

    I have seen Chinese and Japanese in action there, especially Chinese.
    Now, lo and behold, I’ve seen Jews the same. Yes, I am aware how it sounds on this site but fact is a fact. I’ve worked with some Jews and seen that too.
    Granted, it was corporate environment, but still….
    And do agree that whites are the “best” in that. Hehe….my personal experience.
    When I go through my “civil” career the only people who,say, made my job/career hard have been whites. But, then, those were the people in power.I am sure if they’d been the rest from that list the result would’ve been the same.

    • Replies: @Realist
  407. Why is “Judeo-Christian” even a term?

    Christians Under Constant, Violent Attacks from Jewish Groups in Jerusalem

    Desecration and vandalism are what Christians in Jerusalem are suffering at the hands of highly organized Jewish groups. An unprecedented number of churches as well as holy sites are reporting increased violence against priests and parishioners who are being assaulted and attacked.

    The methods of attack vary from vandalism, verbal abuse, individual attacks and what’s called “aggressive property acquisition.” All committed by Jewish settlers.

    More:

    https://squawker.org/world/christians-under-constant-violent-attacks-from-jewish-groups-in-jerusalem/

    • Replies: @geokat62
  408. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    said:
    “How about Aktion T4, which murdered 200,000+ Germans (useless eaters)?”

    No it didn’t, you have no proof as usual, just empty Zionist propaganda.
    And please give a verifiable citation as to who said “useless eaters”.

    T4 was euthanasia project of the sort that is practiced worldwide.
    There was no deception involved and eventually it was stopped due to Catholic church dislike.
    T4, see:
    What Is It with That Nazi Euthanasia?
    By Jett Rucker

    https://codoh.com/library/document/3322/?lang=en

    and more:

    https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=T4

    You are truly becoming desperate and your dodging continues.

    And you still cannot show us the alleged human remains, in allegedly known locations, of the alleged & impossible ’6M Jews, 5M other’.
    You still cannot show us how the alleged ‘gas chambers’ worked.

    see this take down of a fraudulent, laughable Zionist non-excavation of Treblinka:
    ‘Mass Graves claimed to be found at Treblinka’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6804

    for more see real science, real forensics, real logic:
    Cyanide Chemistry at Auschwitz

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4111

  409. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    There is a report on today’s Bloomberg about a meeting involving Netanyahu and President Putin.

    Is this it, Chuck?

    Netanyahu Warns Putin That Iran Wants to Destroy 6 Million Jews

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told President Vladimir Putin that Iran is out to destroy his country, pressing his appeal for Russian help to keep Tehran from using Syria as a launching pad to attack the Jewish state…

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-09/netanyahu-meets-putin-as-russia-debates-deal-for-syrian-missiles

    Complete inversion of the truth. Rather than Iran being out to destroy Israel, it’s more like Israel and the Israel-firsters are out to destroy Iran.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  410. Art says:
    @Realist

    I am not Jewish or a spokesman.

    Attacking the people who hassle Jew tribalism makes you a Jew enabler.

    We can understand why tribal Jews are so mendacious – but you a Gentile, are just double down stupid.

    Tribalism is stupid – it is only for those without a life. Jew tribalism, German tribalism, Japan tribalism, and American tribalism, are all populated by their meanest bloodthirsty thugs and the dimmest among them.

    Get true Western culture – then you will have a worthy life with worthwhile idealistic goals.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope — Live Idealism — Art

  411. @Rurik

    I am going to tread very lightly on the Palestinian responsibility. It would be great of they could stop the random terrorists 0r freedom fighter from engaging in suicide bombings. Israel loves these acts because it fuels the argument about how much at threat they are. Nevermind that it is their occupation and repression that is cause for said bombings. But if Palestinian authorities could bite the bullet and cease supporting or in any way countenancing these acts, it would deprive Israel of excuse for her own terrorism called self defense. Afterall very few Palestinians engage in this behavior and Israel should treat all such individual acts as crimes instead of acts of war– we might actually make some headway in advancing a stable environment.

    The Muslim community has repeatedly expressed a willingness to invest in Palestine. But what’s the point if Israel is going to mow down that investment every three months — which is practical concern.

    Under these circumstances, giving that is designed merely to sustain the sq is hardly worth praise.

  412. geokat62 says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Why is “Judeo-Christian” even a term?

    Good question, C&D.

    Let’s take a look and see how the hasbarats explain it in Wikipedia to The Dumb Goyim:

    Judeo-Christian is a term that groups Judaism and Christianity, either in reference to Christianity’s derivation from Judaism or due to perceived parallels or commonalities shared values between those two religions, which has contained as part of Western culture.

    The term became prevalent towards the middle of the 20th century in the United States to link broader principles of Judeo-Christian ethics such as the dignity of human life, adherence to the Abrahamic covenant, common decency, and support of traditional family values.[1]

    The concept of “Judeo-Christian values” in an ethical (rather than theological or liturgical) sense was used by George Orwell in 1939, with the phrase “the Judaeo-Christian scheme of morals.”[2] It has become part of the American civil religion since the 1940s.

    The related term “Abrahamic religions” includes Bahá’ísm, Islam, Druze etc. as well as Judaism and Christianity.[3]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-Christian

    As I’ve stated before, the truth of the matter is that The Lobby pushed the use of this phrase in preparation for the new Crusade to enlist the help of The Dumb Goyim in their efforts to recover the Holy Lands from the Mohammedans for good.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  413. @Grahamsno(G64)

    utool disbelieves the 6M number. Rather, he believes the actual number was around 5.9M. I’m sure you can appreciate the subtlety of his position.

    • LOL: L.K
  414. @geokat62

    geokat specifically wrote on the Bloomberg report matter: “Complete inversion of the truth. Rather than Iran being out to destroy Israel, it’s more like Israel and the Israel-firsters are out to destroy Iran.”

    Agreed, geo!

    But as you know, Brother, my admittedly wordy question focused more broadly.

    Therefore —
    I chisel comment # 315 and reiterate the fact that an important part of President Putin’s “full time job” is dedicated to “protecting” Israel from it’s own internal enemy, P.M. Netanyahu’s warmongering Likud.

    Thanks for providing the gloomy Bloomberg piece!

    Anyone else out there? Uh, InZitatus? The critique door is open for business. Thanks!

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @jacques sheete
  415. @Wally

    It’s worth remembering that while Sturdy-Colls awaited the Chief Rabbi of Poland (a New Yorker!) to oversee things, she passed the time by digging around at Treblinka *1*, which of course has never been claimed to be anything but an ordinary labor camp. Amazing result: she found evidence that people (no idea if they were Jews) died and were buried in an area where the front passed over three times during the war. (Apparently this “discovery” was enough to bring on emotional distress in her.). Shocking, isn’t it?

    • Replies: @L.K
    , @Wally
  416. Realist says:
    @peterAUS

    The system in place, built by white elites, actively coerce whites into compliance.

    That is throwing them under the bus.

    It is no contest D is the correct answer.

  417. L.K says:
    @Momus

    Zionist shill ‘momus’ goes again: “as part of a systematic attempt by the Nazis to exterminate European Jews. The evidence is incontrovertible and overwhelming.”

    You keep saying this, but your statement is pure BS.
    Even several of the most important holohoax historians have admitted, discreetly & grudgingly, that evidence for the official holohoax story is lacking.

    ..already in 1951, the Jew Léon Poliakov, who had been part of the French delegation at the Nuremberg show trials (1945-1946), stated his conclusion that we had at our disposal an overabundance of documents for all points of the history of the Third Reich, with the exception of one point alone: the “campaign to exterminate the Jews”. For this, he wrote, “No document remains, perhaps none has ever existed” (Bréviaire de la haine, Paris, Calmann-Lévy, 1974 [1951], p. 171; English version: Harvest of Hate, New York, Holocaust Library, 1979, revised and expanded edition)

    It is not just documentary evidence that is missing.. . it is also the material evidence which should be abundant, but in fact does not exist. For example:
    During an interview to the Canadian STAR, 27 December 2009, prominent Jewish holohoax “historian” and Auschwitz ‘expert’, Robert Jan van Pelt, stated:

    We have no material or forensic evidence to support eyewitness reports of gassings…
    Ninety-nine per cent of what we know we do not actually have the physical evidence to prove

    Comparing the “evidence” for the official tales re Auschwitz to the AR camps, the same van Pelt, in his ‘The Case for Auschwitz: Evidence from the Irving Trial’, p.5, writes:

    “The evidence for the role of Treblinka, Belzec, and Sobibor[...] is much less abundant(than Auschwitz).”There are very few eyewitnesses, no confession that can compare to that given by Höss, no significant remains, and few archival sources.

    So, the evidence for Auschwitz is next to nothing – plus there is abundant evidence refuting the atrocity propaganda – but the evidence for the Aktion Reinhardt camps is, according to Pelt himself, even much less than at Auschwitz, which is just about zero. Concerning the ‘confessions’ of Höss though, another famous holohoax “historian”, the miserable shabbos goy, Christopher Browning, in his ‘The Origins of the Final Solution: The Evolution of Nazi Jewish Policy’, September 1939-March 1942 (University of Nebraska Press and Yad Vashem :-) , 2004), p.544 note.169, writes:“…the testimonies of especially Höss and to some extent Eichmann are confused, contradictory, self-serving, and not credible.”

  418. L.K says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Hello,

    Possibly you meant it in a different way, but I’d just like to clarify that holocaust revisionism and white nationalism are different animals.

    Others also confuse it with far right politics and this is also wrong. In France, plenty of holocaust revisionists have been leftists…
    Matter of fact, this was the case with Paul Rassinier, a holocaust revisionist pioneer, who was arrested by the Gestapo and put in the N.S concentration camp system, Buchenwald und Dora, where he nearly perished at the end of WW2.

    Agreed on the infiltration and subversion, in the case of white nationalism in the ZUS, a good example is amren.

    Israeli dissident Gilad Atzmon discusses how Jews have come to largely dominate the Palestinian solidarity movement, which is very useful to the Zionists…

  419. L.K says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    No professional integrity whatsoever, that one…

  420. @Wally

    Actually I went back to school and got a history degree.

    Here’s Weber, by the way:

    No informed person disputes that Europe’s Jews did, in fact, suffer a great catastrophe during the Second World War. Millions were forced from their homes and deported to brutal internment in crowded ghettos and camps. Jewish communities across Central and Eastern Europe, large and small, were wiped out. Millions lost their lives. When the war ended in 1945, most of the Jews of Germany, Poland, the Netherlands and others countries were gone.

  421. L.K says:

    Paul Craig Roberts

    Morality, Truth, Facts Have Exited From The Dying West

    What was the Holocaust? According to zionists, the Holocaust was National Socialist Germany’s elimination of 6 million Jews by first gassing them and then cremating the bodies. It is unclear how Germany managed this feat when all of its limited and dwindling resources were employed, unsuccessfully as it turns out, on the Russian front.

    Photos demonstrating the Holocaust include dead skeletal-like bodies. But these are not people gassed and cremated. These are deaths from typhus and starvation. The disintegrating German state had no food or medicines for Germans and often not for its own soldiers. Concentration camp inmates were on the bottom of the totem pole.

    We know very little about the Holocaust, because no one is allowed to study it. Anyone in Europe who studies it and makes the slightest correction to the zionist narrative is arrested and imprisoned as a Holocaust denier. …
    The Holocaust is not a subject that can be studied or investigated. It is an occurrence handed down by zionists that cannot be examined or modified and certainly not questioned. We must take it on faith alone. If a scholar does not, he is a Holocaust denier and, if European or captured in Europe, he is imprisoned.

    • Replies: @Wally
  422. @Wally

    T4 was euthanasia project of the sort that is practiced worldwide.

    Simple question: Was euthanasia ever practiced by Nazi Germany against the wishes of the patient or his/her family?

  423. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    Speaking for myself, there’s a limit to Unz’s Ant Farm. Only so much time subterranean before one needs sunlight.

    I quite agree. Where shall we find sunlight? Having just picked up the New York Times I am left with a distinct feeling of unease. They do have some articles worth squinting through, though much of the political analysis requires radical re-contemplation. Maggie Haberman, e.g., whom I used to rather like, seems to have adopted a position one can unhappily describe as equal parts naive, self-important, and, helplessly obtuse. The Wall Street Journal editorial is shameless. From my POV, i.e., not for the clientele they serve, of course, which by their own accounting apparently grows in the American heartland! Go figure that one.

    The UR is a curious place. Seems to attract a great many of the type which believes that since one man is bipedal, fifty must constitute a centipede. Illogic of this variety cannot properly be engaged in debate as must surely be the reason for your infrequent posts, anymore. That, and the desire to engage in the betterment of health through local enterprise takes precedence for me.

    Tomme de Savoie? Naturally! Set it into sharp relief with a creamy choice such as Brie de Meaux, quince and a nice Sauternes :-).

    Best

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  424. @Wally

    Do you think there’s some nicer translation from Mein Kampf out there? What word or words do you object to?

    • Replies: @Wally
  425. Wally says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    A must see here, the fraud of the fake dig at Treblinka is further exposed

    ‘Skeptic Forum vs. CODOH Forum: alleged Treblinka mass graves’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9501

    [MORE]

    Here are examples of threads found at the CODOH forum on the subject:

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8579

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8744

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8829

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9021

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9006

    Yeah boy, ca 900,000 Jew remains are alleged to still be at Treblinka in very specifically claimed locations.
    Yet we see nothing, nada.

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived.
    That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jew supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that crushes the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

    Only liars demand censorship.
    http://www.codoh.com

  426. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    Thank you Geo.

    I think it was your contention that there would be no war/attack on Iran. Are you still of that mind, given all the hawks with whom Trump has surrounded himself?

    I still think there won’t be a formally declared war on Iran unless the circumstances in Syria prompt the Iranians to precipitate something inadvisable, such as an attack on American assets in the Gulf. None, but a tiny minority of Israeli generals wished for an American withdrawal from the JCPOA. It was a Trump/Netanyahu gambit to have Iran quietly withdraw her assets from the region. Russia and Mr Putin have far greater commercial interests to protect, rendering the Syrian one something of a medium-term writedown. Europe will step away and obtain trade concessions from America. China? They are positively loving this! All European business, especially in heavy machinery, transportation, etc. now squarely goes to China! I thought Iran understood it; if one looked past the fire and brimstone of the Mullahs, i.e. We shall see.

    Speaking of Trump, it has become increasingly clear why you were such a big booster from the get-go… some even refer to him as the first Jewish President… and now The Dumb Goyim, including myself, all know why.

    I supported Trump for I thought he’d be something of a curiosity. He hasn’t disappointed! American Institutions are robust and can endure the follies of one administration. However, I don’t see where Trump has done any harm, rather au contraire, his Korea effort if successful, will be a historic achievement. A Nobel for the Donald? Can’t see any objective reasons to deny him the distinction, one which boasts recipients like Arafat, Tutu, etc…

    But in all seriousness, I supported him chiefly for the Fiscal Policy he had proposed. Not much more. As far as his intent on Jerusalem, Iran etc, why the confoundment? He spoke of it with no room for misinterpretation! You fellows got on that train for one and only one purpose as far as I can tell. That would be his overt appeal to the Nativist cause. Anyway, as they say in Montreal, c’est pas la mort du petit cheval.

    dueling with your farm neighbours.

    Oh, not a bit. Lovely folk, my neighbours. The question of politics, let alone of the variety discussions seem to devolve into here, never appears. For that, UR is the peculiar choice; to be consumed in carefully measured quantities.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @ChuckOrloski
  427. Binky says:
    @mark green

    … You forgot ‘hubrus’.

  428. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    Based on your response, Sam, I have to admit you haven’t missed a beat on your top notch dissembling skills.

    I still think there won’t be a formally declared war on Iran…

    LOL, spoken like a seasoned lawyer!

    It was a Trump/Netanyahu gambit to have Iran quietly withdraw her assets from the region.

    Oh, of course. It was Trump’s gambit. What about evidence that Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem to appease his major donor, Shelly Adelson. You don’t think The Lobby may have been pushing Trump to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal, do you? No doubt, you’d have to be a conspiracist to believe something like that, right?

    But in all seriousness, I supported him chiefly for the Fiscal Policy he had proposed.

    LOL, yes of course, fiscal policy, that’s the ticket. Very keen on those tax breaks. I get it. Heck, another commodity trader, Bill Browder, was so keen on reducing his taxes, he even renounced his American citizenship. Money is king… that’s for sure.

    You fellows got on that train for one and only one purpose as far as I can tell. That would be his overt appeal to the Nativist cause.

    You’re right again. We got on the train not knowing it was called the Zionist Express, headed straight for the concluding chapter in remaking the ME. I guess The Lobby clarified a few things to him. While he campaigned on Making America Great Again, they reminded him that the task at hand is to Make Israel Greater Again. Not sure how much they had to twist his arm, but those Russia-gate hearings were a reminder that impeachment is always a distinct possibility.

    For that, UR is the peculiar choice; to be consumed in carefully measured quantities.

    Based on your comment to Incy, it’s clear that you cannot tolerate reading the LOW for too long before coming up for some oxygen. That’s what we’re here for, Sam. Even though you may not like what we have to say, you know we’re not afraid of tackling the most pressing political issues, head on.

    To recap, Sam. While in true commodity trader fashion you hedged your bets by stating the US will not formally declare war on Iran, it is clear that your initial position has evolved to the point that even you believe an attack on Iran is imminent… I think you’re right.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  429. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Thanks for providing the gloomy Bloomberg piece!

    Speaking of gloomy, Chuck, have you seen these follow-up videos of Ray McGovrrn after he was jailed for his civil disobedience?

    Like our fearless Phil Giraldi, Ray is a stellar example of what an Old School American used to stand for. In the words of Ray: “I took an oath to protect and defend the constitution… no one ever told us there was an expiry date on that oath.”

    Enjoy!

  430. @Sam Shama

    Good evening, Maven!

    Above I note how you speciously view a “peculiar’ non-Zionized society by stating, “I thought Iran understood it; if one looked past the fire and the brimstone of the Mullahs, i.e. We shall see.”

    (Zigh)

    I am impressed by your reading WSJ’s fire & brimstone Op Eds, but (below) you might evolve by reading an article-excerpt from the “Independent,” March 16, 2016, and written by an elected Iranian parliamentarian, Ciamak Morsadegh, a Jew!

    “Benjamin Netanyahu and the anti-Semites need each other: they supply each other with what they need – intolerance and hatred. The fact is, Iran is a place where Jews feel secure and we are happy to be here. We are proud to be Iranian. I know this doesn’t follow the Zionist script, but this is the reality. No one forces the Jews to stay here.

    “The Israelis offer money to Jewish people to emigrate to Israel, but we choose to stay. My view is that the actions of Netanyahu and his government, the way they behave towards the Palestinians, cause problems for Jews everywhere. I am not the only one holding these views. Am I not allowed to say it because I am a Jew.”

    P.S. :
    Like Gomez Adams & Morticia, does InZitatus get aroused when you speak French to him?

  431. @geokat62

    Hi geokat,

    Excellent jabs at the Maven’s Tiffany-glass chin, and (below) you will delight with what our Brother Nathanael Kapner wrote about “Trump’s gambit.”

    http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=1290

    • Replies: @geokat62
  432. Caruthers says:
    @Momus

    That some Jewish individuals did good things (scientific contributions, etc.) does not entitle other Jewish individuals to any benefits, any more than the bad acts of some Jewish individuals warrant punishing other Jewish individuals.

    No Jew deserves a reward because of the good acts of other Jews, any more than any Jew deserves punishment because of the bad acts of other Jews.

    All such notions of collective merit and guilt are racist and bigoted.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Momus
  433. Wally says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    Andrew Mathis continues to dodge because he know he’s beat, see link below.*

    I too have a degree in history and did not need to ‘go back to school.

    Yawn, your Weber nonsense is such old news. And so what? He is wrong and like you, has no poof for the statement. Jews went where Jews are. Simple stuff really.

    “If Jews are so sure that millions of Jews were murdered, then why do they ask such dumb questions like “what happened to them?” LOL

    Revisionist F. Paul Berg says of Weber’s absurdity:
    Weber’s most recent line of argument uses mind-reading. He takes passages from Goebbels’ Diary, Hitler’s Final Testament and Himmler’s Posen Speech to conclude that Jews must have been gassed. Although ALL of those sources fail to even mention gas chambers or gassing, Weber seems to feel they must have been talking about gassing because it could have been nothing else.”

    Now, Andrew Mathis, present us proof that “most of the Jews of Germany, Poland, the Netherlands and others countries” were murdered.
    Please show us the claimed Jew remains for the laughable “millions”.

    The CODOH Forum has debunked Weber, who aligns himself directly with David Irving, who obviously made coerced statements for an early release from an Austrian Thought Crime jail. Statements which are pure fiction and not supported by proof.
    see:
    ‘Mark Weber says millions of Jews died’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8300

    * Everyone, here’s Andrew Mathis at the CODOH Forum, a complete rout:

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4451&p=72138&hilit=mathis+thames+mulegino#p72138

  434. Wally says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    After dodging yet again, said:
    “Do you think there’s some nicer translation from Mein Kampf out there? What word or words do you object to?

    More accurate, yes.
    The ones that I have objected to.

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  435. @L.K

    Also, historical revisionism in general has a long pedigree in libertarianism, which obviously has nothing do with any kind of far-right (or far-left) politics. The great libertarians Rothbard and James Martin were Holocaust skeptics, and I’d be surprised if men like Hoppe or Raico accepted the official story in private.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  436. Wally says:
    @L.K

    Yep, exposing the fake ‘holocau$t’ has gone mainstream.

    They’re panicking in the shtetls.

    Link to that Roberts article here:

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/05/paul-craig-roberts/morality-truth-facts/

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged supremacist Jews demand censorship.
    Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.
    Only liars demand censorship.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

  437. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    and (below) you will delight with what our Brother Nathanael Kapner wrote about “Trump’s gambit.”

    Delight, indeed, Chuck.

    Woah, while Brother Nathanael may have pulled out all the stops, he certainly didn’t pull any punches. Get a load of these quotes:

    Trump made lots of promises during his campaign but only two came true since they were aimed at pleasing his fat cat JEW donors — Adelson, Singer, Marcus, and the Republican Jewish Coalition:

    1. Killing The Iran Deal
    2. Moving The Embassy To Jerusalem

    All the rest have fallen to the ground, the ones benefiting the hapless goy like bringing jobs back home, and stopping useless spending on wars (for the Jews) abroad…

    After all, Amerika is just a great beast of burden for the drunken Zionist whore to ride.

    Not only did Trump—(in pleasing his Jew-masters)—tell the world “to drop dead”…he in effect told the goyim, “Jewish interests are my prime objectives.”

    Do Americans know the ruin around them? That the ‘Deep State’ is simply the ‘Jew State?’

    Does anyone dare to call out the Jew for turning the White House into a whore house for organized Jewry to screw over?

    Will anyone call Congress what it really is, a sub-committee of the Israeli Knesset?

    Democracy is an auction awarded to the highest bidder.

    And that bidder: JEWS, are tossing Amerika into the trash can of history.

    And to think I questioned Bro Nat’s veracity when it came to that showdown between himself and our very own Maven on whether Israel’s national anthem was sung on every sabbath service.

    Bro Nat is the veritable truthteller… no doubt about it.

    I think it’s fair to say Phil Giraldi’s articles, especially his most controversial one (America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars) was the catalyst for opening the floodgates that embolden others to follow suit and speak truth to power. I just didn’t expect truthtellers to speak as candidly as Bro Nat has done.

    Thanks for sharing, Chuck.

  438. @Andrew E. Mathis

    Apart from questions of Weber’s agenda, this passage you quote is just incoherent. Yes, many Jews died during the war of many causes. Yes, many Jews were gone from Europe after the war (how do you think Israel was initially populated?). What does any of this have to do with the official storyline (of gas chambers and millions of corpses vanished as the Germans lost the war)?

  439. @Wally

    Here’s the original:

    Gab es denn da einen Unrat, eine Schamlosigkeit in irgendeiner Form, vor allem des kulturellen Lebens, an der nicht wenigstens ein Jude beteiligt gewesen wäre?
    Sowie man nur vorsichtig in eine solche Geschwulst hineinschnitt, fand man, wie die Made im faulenden Leibe, oft ganz geblendet vom plötzlichen Lichte, ein Jüdlein.

    Why not tell us how you would translate it?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  440. @Anon

    “Degenration” is teaching me to abjure Presentism and try to understand what was going in in the context of the times.

    That is crucial, for sure.

    Just for starters.

    You can say that again. It is an ever increasing source of wonder to me that the deeper one digs, the deeper one is compelled to dig.

    I would love to know what Rothbard was getting at by this…

    “… this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth.

    If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler’s Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions…”

    Murray Rothbard, Revisionism for Our Time
    Mr. Rothbard was an American Jew and an historian of the very highest caliber.

    http://mises.org/daily/2592

    I am starting to suspect he was hinting about something close to what you addressed in your comment.

  441. @Beefcake the Mighty

    …and I’d be surprised if men like Hoppe or Raico accepted the official story in private.

    I can’t speak for Hoppe at all, but there is little doubt that you are correct about the other genius, Raico. He was a good man in my opinion. His books are well worth reading and he even commented here, on UR at least once that I’m aware of.

  442. @geokat62

    Bro Nat is a total hoot, and I wish he’d show up here more often.

    • Agree: geokat62
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  443. @Caruthers

    That some Jewish individuals did good things (scientific contributions, etc.) does not entitle other Jewish individuals to any benefits, any more than the bad acts of some Jewish individuals warrant punishing other Jewish individuals.

    While you speak the truth, you are wasting your time with that one. However, I’m glad it keeps spouting off since it repeatedly demonstrates that the “chosen” ones are not so special after all and it’s amusing to see that they don’t even have the slightest clue that they are their own worst enemies.

    No wonder they live their lives in a perpetual state of fear and loathing. For them, the sky is always falling, and it’s their own doing.

  444. @geokat62

    …And that bidder: JEWS, are tossing Amerika into the trash can of history.

    They had a very nice refuge and home in Germany as well and we can all see how that turned out.

  445. @Andrew E. Mathis

    Why not tell us how you would translate it?

    You first. And remember to consider the context.

    I think it translates perfectly to what we in the US have been suffering under for some time as well.

    What think thee?

    Vielen dank!

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
    , @Wally
  446. @Wally

    Hilberg has no degree in History.

    In my experience, a “degree” in history or any other related subject is at least as bad, and probably much worse, than Wikipedia regarding “sensitive” subjects. In fact, degrees outside of STEM subjects only confirm the ability to conform; they do not confirm competence in a given subject.

  447. @Anon

    Just for starters.

    Please do continue.

  448. @ChuckOrloski

    “Complete inversion of the truth. Rather than Iran being out to destroy Israel, it’s more like Israel and the Israel-firsters are out to destroy Iran.”

    At least they are consistent.

    A long time ago I found it helpful to invert whatever claim they make; it’s a virtually ironclad method to get a handle on reality.

    From Paul to Uncle Joey, they never change.

    Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

    “Blame others for your own sins.”
    J. V. Stalin, Anarchism Or Socialism ? December, 1906 — January, 1907

  449. Here is a patriot that you all should contribute to if you have the best interests of the US at heart. If you are in California, support his bid. I shall.

    • Agree: HogHappenin
    • Replies: @HogHappenin
  450. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    “The Wall Street Journal editorial is shameless…Where shall we find sunlight?”

    Gave up NYT and WSJ editorials after 2002-03: both failed miserably. Browse about twenty domestic and international web sources each morning. News and business headlines, no opinion pages. A quick electronic trip around the world. Gave up the Economist and The Week – not enough time.

    Age increases fondness for plaids and obituaries, though the latter may sound macabre. A genuine art form, glimpse into life. Biographic haiku.

    “[Trump’s] Korea effort if successful, will be a historic achievement.”

    Agree. Never thought we’d hear what principals seem to be saying. Hope they mean it. Fingers crossed.

    “UR is a curious place. Seems to attract a great many of the type which believes that since one man is bipedal, fifty must constitute a centipede.”

    LOL. Those are the sane ones. Others still work on whether 911 really happened or was deep-state computer generated imagery. Of course, Woodrow and Franklin started the WWs, and George Washington would let his daughter date Adolf Hitler. Only Rod Serling’s Twilight Zone theme is missing.

    Plateau de fromage, pear slices, Rosé d’Anjou or a Muscadet? Bourgogne and Bordeaux are fine; the Loire underrated.

    Best

  451. @jacques sheete

    Jacques Sheete rubbed Jeannie bottle, made sound request:
    “Bro Nat is a total hoot, and I wish he’d show up here more often.”

    Hi Jacques,

    Brother Nathanael is Truth-Teller Maximus who routinely follows the ZAmerican government “access & influence” money trail to the very top Jewish billionaires.

    (Note: “m__” comment # 14 hit the Third Rail-point & offered the sound verdict, “no billionaires, no Israel.”F.y.i., to date, no comment-responses were made to “m__”)

    It’s my understanding that plain-spoken / hard hitting “Bro Nat” made an attempt to become a regular contributor to The Unz Review.

    To date, unfortunately such valuable effort has not come to fruition.

    But always keep in mind, Jacques, that gallant wishes oft DENIED are the best proof censorship & “Fake (watered-down) News” are doomed.

    Thank you!

  452. @jacques sheete

    Hi Jacques,

    Want to draw your attention to Dissident Saint Paul Haeder who years ago I nicknamed “The George Plimpton of Dissent.”

    Below is a one example of a brave Truth-Telling article written by Paul Haeder, & that I know from first-hand account, brought tremendous A.D.L. Jewish thunder & lightning upon him.

    To a political pressure-point that he changed his author screen-name to “Paul Kirk” in order to protect his new wife’s employment!

    https://dissidentvoice.org/2013/06/the-top-71-people-on-earth-killing-us-softly/

    Thanks, Jacques. F.y.i., Paul Haeder published a Dissident Voice interview with me titled, “10 Sweaty Rounds…”.

    Selah, no Rothschild dough, no Balfour go.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  453. anarchyst says:
    @L.K

    A parallel exists here in the “good ol’ USA. The American “civil-rights (for some)” movement of the 1950s and 1960s was started and spearheaded by New York-based leftist jews. In fact, the NAACP was founded and run by jews until the 1960s when blacks finally “got smart” and routed the jewish interlopers. I personally witnessed the so-called “civil-rights” marches and the associated violence that was fomented by these leftist jews. Of course, the “mainstream media” was in on the “fix” as well, conveniently ignoring the jew-led black violence that was taking place, “never letting a crisis go to waste”. We used to have a saying: “Behind every Negro, there is a jew”. No truer words were spoken.

  454. @jacques sheete

    Jacques Sheete said: “From Paul to…”

    Hi Jacques,

    As I already overburdened you with a sleep inducing-video covering a Rothschild-Syria connection, I fear I have done it again by posting a long (prolix) example of Paul Kirk Haeder’s work.

    Since about 2010, as email friends, I politely cautioned Paul Haeder about his habit of writing one (1) continentally expansive article when each paragraph could have been one (1) good & fleshed out article.

    Operating from the wiley state of Oregon, he is very enthusiastic with a variety of worthy Causes, and subsequently, Haeder did not cotton to my advice. Nevertheless, upon request, I wrote a “blurb” for his book.

    At any rate, between the years 2008-2014, Paul wrote fearlessly (and effusively) about hazardous-Jew influence upon U.S. economy, society, academia, film, politics, et al. Paid a “price,” he came under HEAVY criticism & veiled threats from Jew’s and their zany goyim sympathizers.

    Could not access one of his older articles that brought Jewish thunder & lightning upon Adjunct Professor Haeder, so (below) I attach one from 2016.

    https://dissidentvoice.org/2016/04/the-gangrenous-monster-has-eaten-our-hearts/

    P.S. Months ago, I emailed P.H. & suggested him to start making point-focused comments at The Unz Review. Regrettably to date, an author, Paul has not done so.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  455. @jacques sheete

    I wasn’t talking to you.

    Wally took issue with the translation. However, he doesn’t know any German, so he was bullshitting. Now you jump in here to bail him out. He’s a big boy. Let him fight his own battles.

  456. @anarchyst

    anarchyst wrote: “Of course, the “mainstream media” was in on the “fix” as well…”

    Hi anarchyst,

    Above —

    Of course you’re aware that the official 9/11 cover-up required the Jewish Corporate Media’s full cooperation.

    Do you recall how the “MSM” star, Phil Donahue, got hit by residual “Burning Bush” arson?

    Otherwise, thanks for offering a sound 50′s-60′s historical-perspective which (Django-unchained) Louis Farrakhan might appreciate.

  457. RobinG says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Months ago, I emailed P.H. & suggested him to start making point-focused comments at The Unz Review. Regrettably to date, an author, Paul has not done so.

    LOL. Likely P.H. has a better sense of worthwhile use of his time.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @ANON
  458. Thorby says:
    @mark green

    Protecting Israel is also Vladimir Putin’s job. Another NWO phony like Trump.

    https://www.henrymakow.com/2018/04/-jews-israel-andrussia–brendo.html

  459. @anarchyst

    Hi anarchyst,

    Should have linked the video (below) to my response-communications that referenced Phil Donahue’s troubles that arose from getting too close to the out of civilian control “Burning W. Bush.”

    You can watch “liberal” Donahue logically & articulately discuss his 2003 firing from MSNBC.

    P.S. It is in a “dumb goyim” accessible-format to which even the U.R. commenter, (Sur)Realist, might benefit?

    Thanks, anarchyst!

  460. Incitatus says:
    @anarchyst

    Interesting post, anrchyst.

    “The Treaty of Versailles had sown the seeds for WW2…”

    Versailles was terrible. Ludendorff’s Brest-Litovsk (3 Mar 1918) was worse. Russia lost one million square miles (home to 50 million), 90% of coal mines, 33% of railways, 73% of iron, 5000 factories, 25% of industry, and was forced to pay a 6-billion mark indemnity. Bismarck demanded Alsace-Lorraine and 5 million gold francs from France in 1871. Ample precedent for Versailles, sown by Germany.

    “the average German did not have a pot to p!ss in, while his wealthy jewish neighbors, international banksters, and outside elements were systematically raping and looting the country. Let’s not forget the rampant social debauchery by “the ruling class” (mostly jews)…”

    Krupp had golden pots to piss in before and after Versailles. Richest in the world. Imagine a privately held family company built on railroad wheels with a virtual monopoly on heavy arms production. U-Boats, battleships, tanks, 88s, ‘Big Bertha’, ‘Langer Max’, and the ‘Paris Gun’ – all extraordinary weapons – all Krupp’s gift to humanity. No need for silly little coffeemakers and juice machines. As long as wars keep coming.

    Debauchery? Fritz Krupp (1854-1902), like Emperor Tiberius, developed a passion for young boys and Capri. Arrested in 1902 with forty Italian adolescents. Need one say more? Daughter Bertha inherited the business. Wilhelm II found her a mate: Gustav von Bohlen und Halbach (he adopted Bertha’s surname by special decree). Gustav didn’t let Willie down: Krupp was instrumental in WW1. It was wonderful for business. Special rewards included seized Belgian industry and Belgian civilians conscripted for forced labor in the Ruhr, a violation of the Hague Conventions.

    Versailles didn’t slow Gustav down. Sure, he branched out into agricultural implements, vehicles, and consumer goods. Behind the scenes, Weimar subsidies and foreign subsidiaries kept armaments going from day one. Bought Swedish Bofors as a front company in 1921. He had a stroke of genius in 1926. Sue Vickers for patent royalties on 4,160,000 shells Brits fired to kill 2,080,000 Germans in WW1. Demand £260,000. Gustav settled for 640,000 shells and £40,000. His reward for helping kill his own in a lost war. £0.02 per dead soldier, £0.06 per shell. One shell was worth three human lives. Not bad, eh?

    Gustav initially didn’t care for commoner Hitler or the raucous NSDAP. Don’t worry. He had an instant epiphany 30 Jan 1933. Became “super-Nazi” overnight. Who better for business? Son Alfried was already a member of the SS (1931). Gustav served as president of the Reichsverband der Deutschen Industrie. After Krupp arms helped destroy a good part of Warsaw, Dolf awarded him the Golden Medal of the Nazi Party (1940). Warms the heart, doesn’t it?

    The future looked bright. Alfried took the helm as the Reich expanded, operating confiscated factories in occupied territory with POWs, forced foreign labor and slaves. The SS was happy to provide them. When Stalingrad clouded the horizon, Alfried secretly hedged his bets by liquidating 200 million Marks in government bonds, tucking it safely abroad. Aryan patriotism?

    When the Allies arrived in Essen, the only bomb shelter they found was under Villa Hügel, the family’s 269 room, 87,000 sf manor set in 69-acre park overlooking the River Ruhr. Krupp’s German workers? They had to rough it.

    “Every country has its own equivalent to Operation Hummingbird. To wit, the sieges at Ruby Ridge, Waco…”

    Little consolation to victims. Are they permissible? Was Hitler right in killing his comrades?

    “Aktion T4…eugenics was an idea born here in the good ol’ USA…”

    Controlled breeding is one thing, involuntary euthanasia another.

    “German troops were no different than many others, treating children, women, and the (non-jewish) menfolk with kindness and great respect…”

    Agree, mostly. Some were beasts. SS at Oradour-sur-Glane. Einsatzgruppe executioners. But most ordinary troops were decent. Germans were victims of corrupt, incompetent and criminal leadership. Just as Frenchmen suffered under Louis-Napoléon, François Bazaine, and Louis-Jules Trouchu 1870-71.

    Wilhelmine nitwits Moltke, Falkenhayn, Ludendorff and Hindenburg passed the torch to the Nazis. Much of what you and Wally write seems out of their Dolchstoßlegende playbook. WW1 was everybody else’s fault. Not those who started it and (knowing they couldn’t win September 1914) fed their own men to four more years of slaughter. Their last hurrah? Losing 880,000 men in the spring offensive March-July 1918.

    Nazis in WW2 were no better. Invading Russia without contingencies (winter coats)? Declaring war on the US? When things sour in late ’44 Hitler orders destruction of ‘unworthy’ Germany? Out-Carthaginians Morgenthau? Doesn’t make much sense.

    Finding scapegoats to evade responsibility is easy. Beware the demons you invent take possession of your soul.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Art
  461. @RobinG

    RobinG:. LOL. Likely P.H. has a better sense of worthwhile use of his time.”

    Hi RobinG,

    As typical, on some of your U.R. comments, I do not know exactly where you stand.

    Will now don a black & broad-brimmed Sigmund Freud hat, and take an (non-billable) crack at a diagnosis:

  462. Wally says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    said:
    “I wasn’t talking to you.”

    Yes you were, Unz comments sections are for everyone. Try to follow along.

    You want to personalize everything, which is irrelevant to the issues at hand.

    I know German just fine.
    You simply don’t know what you are talking about.

    Jacques Sheete cuts you another one and it’s you who wants bailed out.

    http://www.codoh.com

    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  463. Wally says:
    @jacques sheete

    Of course we have Kruschev who said “We will bury you” and Ayatollah Khomeini calling the US the “Great Satan”.

    Clearly we were not ‘exterminated’. LOL

    Oh the desperate acts of irrational, panicked Zionists.

    http://www.codoh.com

    “Some stories are true that never happened.”
    - Elie Wiesel

  464. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    Sam — Condolences on Sebastien – being at one with an individual of another species, is a very special thing. It connects us to life. — Art

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  465. @Andrew E. Mathis

    As far as bullshitters go, it takes one to know one, I suppose.

  466. @Wally

    Great! You know German so you should be able to translate that section that you think is fair. But you won’t because you can’t.

    I win.

  467. ANON[118] • Disclaimer says:
    @RobinG

    Why not join the hasbara team and be done with it, RobinG?
    Your bosom buddy Sham has re-emerged; you can swap caviar pairings.

    Voming out as a hasbarat is more honest and less destructive than sniping from within.
    Besides, hasbarats get paid; traitors get shunned at best, hung at worst.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  468. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    Wally! An honor!

    How about Aktion T4, which murdered 200,000+ Germans (useless eaters)?
    “No it didn’t, you have no proof as usual, just empty Zionist propaganda.”

    Was Clemens August Graf von Galen a Zionist? Thought he was a Catholic bishop. Go figure!

    I’m curious (not the first time). Anything and everything contrary to your belief is “Zionist propaganda”. Is there any other source of “propaganda”, or do Zionists hold the monopoly?

    “And please give a verifiable citation as to who said “useless eaters”.”

    “Unnütze Esser” – Julius Streicher, ‘Der Giftpilz’ 1938. Surprised it isn’t on your bookshelf. OK, it’s a children’s book, but anything worthwhile is built on a sound foundation. And what child could resist a title like ‘The Poisonous Mushroom’, especially with titillating cautions about avoiding racial molestation and – most important – heartwarming illustrations of mushrooms with stereotyped noses sporting the Star of David? There’s even a whole chapter of false quotations from the Talmud! You got to give it to Julius: just when you think mankind can’t sink any lower, he delivers.

    You might want to post a digital edition on codoh. With a reader quiz for extra credit.

    “You are truly becoming desperate and your dodging continues.”

    How did you know? Spring does it to me every year.

    “And you still cannot show us the alleged human remains, in allegedly known locations, of the alleged & impossible ’6M Jews, 5M other’.”

    Haven’t tried. Not my job. Sorry. Cats and dogs fighting again. Let me know when you guys sort it out.

    “T4 was euthanasia project of the sort that is practiced worldwide”

    Where?

    Housekeeping:
    • Was Dolf correct in to murdering loyal SA without trial in ’34? Schleicher and his wife?
    • What’s the difference (if any) between involuntary euthanasia and murder?
    • Is involuntary euthanasia desirable? If so, why? Who decides who’s snuffed? Some Nazi flunky in Berlin? Some American flunky in DC?

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    , @Grahamsno(G64)
  469. @Andrew E. Mathis

    “Win”? What are you, 10 years old?

  470. Wally says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis

    I did translate it. So what?

    We have Kruschev who said “We will bury you” and Ayatollah Khomeini calling the US the “Great Satan”.
    So what?

    Indeed, you win The Dodging Bozo-Zionist Award.
    LOL

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  471. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    The always dodging Incitatus said:
    “Nazis in WW2 were no better. Invading Russia without contingencies (winter coats)? Declaring war on the US? When things sour in late ’44 Hitler orders destruction of ‘unworthy’ Germany?”

    - Germany had no choice but to attack the communist USSR before the communists attacked Germany.
    see:
    ‘Operation Barbarossa Was A Preventive Attack

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7999

    - Yes, Germany had a treaty with Japan.

    - You have zero proof for your fake & childish assertion that “Hitler orders destruction of ‘unworthy’ Germany?” Laughable.

    Jeeesh! Not only do you dodge all sorts of relevant info. posted here because you have no answers, but you do not even know the slightest about history, only what Zionists have poured into our naive head.
    Cheers.
    http://www.codoh.com “Truth is hate to those that hate the truth.”

    ‘Some Technical and Chemical Considerations
    about the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz and Birkenau’
    by master chemist Germar Rudolf

    http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndgcger.html

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  472. @ANON

    anon # 118 noticed peculiarity & asked: “Why not join the hasbara team and be done with it, RobinG?”

    Hi # 118,

    After completing a remote psychological analysis, I find that it’s (presently) impossible for RobinG to join, for example the, either a hasbara team or uh…, the B.D.S.

    I conclude RobinG is (terminally)afflicted with Reverse Nathanael Under-The-Fig-Tree Syndrome.

    In layman’s terms, # 118, RobinG, has guile!

  473. ohmy says:
    @DESERT FOX

    ww2 – dead jews 6 million
    1940 jewish population of Germany 500,000
    1940 jewish population of Europe 2,000,000

    we’re missing 3,500,000. but who’s counting?

    The other day in the UK an old jewish broad, of some fame, said there is only 1 real prejudice in the world and, that’s anti-Semitism. how greedy of the old c–t.

  474. country says:

    CIA World Factbook gives Jewish population Israel’s about 6.6 million and U.S. about 5.7 million. U.S. Jews are entitled to dual citizenship so it’s not surprising that U.S. policy is friendly toward Israel.

    One might expect millions of illegal aliens from Mexico if granted U.S. citizenship will also have dual citizenship. I won’t be surprised if they vote for candidates that are friendly toward Mexico.

    I have a personal friend who was born in Syria and is now a naturalized U.S. citizen. With dual citizenship, he votes in both U.S. and Syrian elections.

  475. ohmy says:
    @John Kirby

    I agree. Your facts are correct.

    here’s a couple more;

    1939, Total Jewish population in Germany 500,000
    1939, Total Jewish population in Europe (inc. Germany) 2,500,000
    20 tons of German documents seized at wars end. Not 1 order with mentions killing Jews or signed by Adolf Hitler’
    True – Hitler removed Germany from Central banks, issued a new interest free German Mark
    True – Hitler in his 1st 4 years as Chancellor made Germany great again
    True – Hitler’s Germany paid off WW1 reparations
    True – Hitler did not want war
    True – Hitler paid Jews to immigrate to Palestine with all their property
    True – Zionist Winston Churchill fire bombed German cities at wars end killing 0ver 150k civilians
    True – Under Ike over 1 ml Germans died in outdoor camps from starvation and exposure
    True – Gen. Eisenhower was responsible for over 1 mln. German deaths in POW camps after WW2
    True – General Patton was murdered because he was going to expose Eisenhower as a war criminal
    True – Hundreds of thousands of German females aged preteen to over 80 raped by allied soldiers True – German families were removed from homes and, titles given to Jews
    True – Nuremberg trials designed by Jews
    True – Nuremberg – German prisoners were severely tortured to gain false confessions
    True – No gas chambers – as proven by Ernst Zundel during his trial in Canada.
    True – Jews made up false stories of Jews being killed to make lampshades and soap
    True – Hitler was an artist with exceptional talent
    True – Hitler was a great man, a great patriot
    True – Holocaust – a term first used in late 1960s is a hoax to justify the persecution of Germany
    True – Anti Semitism was created by Jews
    True – Most anti Semitic crimes have been perpetrated by jews

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  476. @Andrew E. Mathis

    I wasn’t talking to you.

    I know, but I thought I’d horn in anyway. It’s called “chutzpah” and guess where I learned it.

    Wally took issue with the translation. However, he doesn’t know any German, so he was bullshitting. Now you jump in here to bail him out. He’s a big boy. Let him fight his own battles.

    He fights his own battles just fine and please remember that this is an open forum. If you don’t like it, you have several options other than whining about what I did.

    Anyway, I bet you can’t translate it either, even with online translators.

  477. Incitatus says:
    @Wally

    Wally!

    “The always dodging Incitatus said…”

    Let me guess. Like Chuck, you’re inspired by Echo? You repeat interlocutor third person, just as the Hellene mountain nymph demands, spiced up with a mild personal insult? Fascinating. Are there sacrificial rites involved? Slaughter a chicken? Read entrails?

    “Germany had no choice but to attack the communist USSR before the communists attacked Germany…”

    Why did infallible Dolf partner with great Satan Stalin in ’39? Was it in good faith? Was it a mistake?

    “communist USSR”

    Think Ludendorff bears any responsibility for ‘communist USSR’? After giving Lenin $100 million and injecting him into Russia in 1917? Was that in good faith? Was that a mistake?

    “Yes, Germany had a treaty with Japan”

    No kidding! Wasn’t it a defensive treaty? Action required only if Japan was attacked? Was Japan attacked?

    “You have zero proof for your fake & childish assertion that “Hitler orders destruction of ‘unworthy’ Germany?” Laughable.”

    Ever hear of Albert Speer? Is he “fake & childish”? Is Hitler “fake & childish”?

    “If the war is lost, the nation will also perish. This fate is inevitable. There is no necessity to take into consideration the basis which the people will need to continue even a most primitive existence. On the contrary, it will be better to destroy these things ourselves, because this nation will have proved to be the weaker one and the future will belong solely to the stronger eastern nation. Besides, those who will remain after the battle are only the inferior ones, for the good ones have all been killed.”

    -Adolf Hitler to Albert Speer, March 1945

    There you have it, Wally. Dolf’s death sentence for “inferior” Germany. Sacred text. Lips of Mr. Wonderful himself. No time machine can change it. My advice? Stick to the codoh’s standard layer of manure and pray (Echo included) for stupid readers.

    “you have no answers”

    Moi? And I thought we were getting along.

    “but you do not even know the slightest about history”

    Absolutely correct. Your version of history anyway. A vile compost of hatred, scapegoating, and ridiculous fabrication. Ignorance of such is a badge of sanity.

    Salute!

    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Wally
  478. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    Who decides who’s snuffed? Some Nazi flunky in Berlin? Some American flunky in DC?

    Hmm — Who decides to snuff out young Palestinian lives in Gaza — Dolf Netanyahu?

    Is it Dolf Incitatus in the US – who makes Dolf Netanyahu possible?

    Does Dolf Incitatus enable and promote the assassination culture of Dolf Netanyahu in modern fascist Dolfland (Israel)?

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope — Live Idealism — Art

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  479. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    Hmm — If the Jews were so hated, how and why did the Big Jew Rothschilds survive your Dolf?

  480. @Incitatus

    Narcissist Incitatus commented to Wally: Let me guess. Like Chuck, you’re inspired by Echo? You repeat interlocutor third person, just as the Hellene mountain nymph demands, spiced up with a mild personal insult? Fascinating.

    Hi InZi,

    Oh man, having gone into my lineage, you doxed me! What a prick.

    But since you’re into Greek mythology, I thought the cartoon-video (below) will whet your MIRV-ego.

    In the ‘Toon, the nymph Echo and Narcissus meet & Echo goes on a trial resembling that banally tolerated by Eichmann at Nuremberg!

    Like I do not care for YOU here at U.R., in the cartoon, doncha’ know it, InZi? Echo does not like Narcissus because what he does to dumb goyim.

    Right back at you, InZi, uh…, and Salud the pimp(h) “Newt!”

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    , @Sam Shama
  481. Wally says:
    @Incitatus

    - The German treaty with the USSR in 1939 was made in good faith. Now try to follow along, the communists were planing an attack on Germany in 1941, hence Germany had to protect itself. There I fixed it for you.

    - Germany declaring war on the US was a result of US provocation against Japan long before & up to Pearl Harbor. Please do some research, hint: ‘Tripartite’.

    - Yep I know all about Albert Speer.
    So then, please show us the original Hitler document which contains your claimed text to him from Hitler. Ah.

    I note that you still cannot rebut the tons of information that I have posted.

    But hey, you’re not a bad comedian.

    “Truth is hate to those that hate the truth”.

    Why do so many people want 6M Jews to be dead? Revisionists don’t.
    One would think that Jews especially would be elated to hear that ’6M’ of their brethren were not murdered.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  482. Zumbuddi says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Brilliant response.
    In awe.
    Wasted on an ass’s horse,

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  483. @Wally

    You didn’t translate anything because you can’t. No history degree, no German language skills. Just a bunch of CODOH links. Sad.

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