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I have a number of times discussed how the U.S. and other governments have legislated and otherwise promoted Jewish and Israeli interests in ways that most people would find unacceptable if they were aware of what exactly has been going on. Here in the United States, special Medicare coverage and immigration status have been granted, often concealed in other legislation, to benefit holocaust survivors and Russian Jews seeking to emigrate. State legislatures and the U.S. Congress have meanwhile been working hard to pass legislation that blocks and even criminalizes the non-violent Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) protests against Israeli behavior while universities have been banning anti-Israel demonstrators and groups on campus because they apparently are offensive to the sensitivities of some Jewish students.

The latest outrage against the First Amendment comes from South Carolina, the home state of the arch-Zionist poseur and United Nations Ambassador extraordinary Nikki Haley. A new hate speech law was inserted in the state’s recently approved annual budget. The legislation borrows from the U.S. State Department definition of anti-Semitism, which proscribes speech that “demonizes” or applies “double standards” to Israel “by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation” as anti-Semitic.

While the State Department definition is a guideline, the South Carolina’s specific inclusion of it in legislation makes explicit that criticism of Israel as hate speech can be subject to criminal penalties. It also is binding on all the states universities and educational institutions.

The law was promoted by Alan Clemmons, a Mormon legislator who has led numerous delegations to Israel and who has been described as “Israel’s biggest supporter in a U.S. state legislature.”

Supporters of the Bill of Rights have been universally opposed to the bill, but pro-Israel groups have praised the initiative and are expecting a “new wave” of legislation all across the United States blocking any criticism of the self-described Jewish State. The Brandeis Center has enthused

“This bill gives South Carolina the tools to protect Jewish students’ and all South Carolina students’ right to a learning environment free of unlawful discrimination. We are hoping this momentous step will result in another national wave to, once and for all, begin defeating rising anti-Semitism.”

Other states will undoubtedly follow the South Carolina lead, so it would appear that any criticism of Israel will become illegal in the public square if the many friends of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu have their way. And they generally do get what they want from the federal level all the way down to the states and local communities, so be prepared.

Israel also is regularly exploiting the American legal system to punish countries that it has defined as its enemies. Its government sponsored lawfare organization called Shurat Hadin has initiated a number of lawsuits in U.S. courts to punish Palestinians and Iranians. Ironically, it is currently seeking to demonstrate that Hamas is committing war crimes in Gaza, where Israel has been using army snipers to kill unarmed demonstrators.

Other lawsuits filed on behalf of mostly Jewish Americans in U.S. courts seeking compensation from Iranians and Palestinians are also pending, with the tribunals in Manhattan particularly prone to being sympathetic to the plaintiffs. Last week, at the Federal Court for the Southern District of Manhattan, Judge George Daniels issued a default judgment relating to his 2011 determination that Iran and Hezbollah materially and directly supported al-Qaeda in the 9/11 attacks and are legally responsible for damages to the hundreds of family members of victims who are named in the case. The judge ordered Iran to pay $6 billion in compensation – “$12,500,000 per spouse, $8,500,000 per parent, $8,500,000 per child, and $4,250,000 per sibling” to the families and estates of the deceased. A 4.96 annual interest rate will also be applied to the amount, starting from September 11, 2001 to the date of the judgement.”

Normally foreign governments have what is referred to as sovereign immunity which prevents their being sued, but that all changed in the U.S. with the passage of the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act (JASTA) of 2016, which permitted individual lawsuits in any federal court involving any government’s alleged participation in international acts of “terrorism.” This has resulted in a series of multi-billion-dollar lawsuits against Iran, the Palestinians and also Saudi Arabia. Many of the lawsuits have Israeli citizens as plaintiffs, suing in American courts.

Though the lawsuit claimed, and Judge Daniels agreed, that Tehran had supported the 9/11 hijackers with training and other assistance, most authorities would question that judgement. Many would consider it to be ludicrous as Iranian Shi’ites were considered to be kill-on-sight heretics by al-Qaeda. The idea that Iran was somehow involved in 9/11 is in reality a ridiculous Israel Lobby contrivance that was first floated in 2015 by ex-CIA Director James Woolsey, a renowned Zionist stooge and conspiracy theorist who is viewed by many as not completely in possession of all his marbles.

Indeed, it is far more plausible that Israel was involved in 9/11 than was Iran. Israel operated a massive spying operation directed against Arabs in the U.S. and several of its intelligence officers were seen in Jersey City to be filming themselves while dancing and cavorting in delight as the twin towers went down, suggesting some prior knowledge.

But, of course, no one would be allowed to sue Israel in an American court. The 9/11 Commission failed to examine the case against Israel even though it allegedly sought to compile a “full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding” the attacks, but it did investigate the possible ties to Iran. It found the only evidence of any Iranian support to consist of certain 9/11 hijackers travelling through Iran on their way to Afghanistan without having their passports stamped.

In his Farewell Address President George Washington warned that

“…a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation. As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot.”

If one believes that deference to the special foreign interest of one powerful and wealthy segment of the population is appropriate in a democracy then I suppose the Jewish/Israeli pander has to be considered acceptable. I happen to believe that, as our first president so clearly articulated, it is not, particularly as much of the concession that Jews are somehow to be treated differently than the rest of the community due to their alleged victimhood contributes to a criticism-free ride for an Israel which is eagerly seeking a new war in the Middle East. It would be a war that the United States would inevitably get pulled into by Israel’s friends in Congress and the media. It would also be catastrophic for all parties involved and it all starts with the belief that Israel should somehow be protected and its enemies punished while also being exempt from being made accountable for its actions.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is www.councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected]

 
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  1. Blah Blah Blah Jewish power cannot be overthrown without deconstructing the ‘Holocau$t’ the myth of the holy 6 trillion. No victory without overthrowing this foundational mother of all lies. Either support the revisionists or shut the fuck up.

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    Arthur R. Butz, ´The hoax of the twentieth century, The case against the presumed extermination of European Jewry’, Costa Mesa CA, 1977, 1989
    , @Momus
    Why do you say the holocaust is a myth? I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.
    , @Jake
    Latecomer, very late, to the party.

    What you note required a process that began with the Judaizing heresy Anglo-Saxon Puritanism. Then the Puritans spend decades getting much richer and becoming the most active group in English politics, one demanding changes that could come only with large scale violence to destroy.

    The Puritan Revolution was necessary, making Anglo-Saxon Judaizing the heresy that would be the basis of WASP culture, of Modern English culture. Then Archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell made concrete the meaning of Anglo-Saxon Puritanism by allying with Jews, taking Jewish money (to Jews, being bought by Jews) , granting Jews the right to return to England and granting Jews special rights and privileges. And that deal was made precisely so Cromwell could slaughter more white Christians native to the British Isles.

    From the time it became fully established as itself, as opposed to being a stage of pre-Reformation English identity and deep-culture, WASP culture was allied with Jews so WASP culture could destroy more white Gentiles and their local cultures.

    The British Empire took that culture's attitudes and manners and morals worldwide.

    All of the above was absolutely necessary to what we suffer from today. Today, that WASP Empire still exists, its main capital moved from London to DC and NYC, with Hollywood its entertainment and propaganda capital.

    The Holocaust will remain sacrosanct anywhere that WASP culture rules, anywhere the values and mores, the identity, of WASP culture sets standards and uses it guns and banks to make them stick.

    Of course, you can't have the rise of the Judaizing Anglo-Saxon Puritans without the Reformation, so perhaps we should start there.
    , @El Dato
    Wow, double cheeseburger holocaust-denial crankery (the psychological need for this I will never understand) actually demaning "revisionism or STFU" (really!) and then extra-bacon ultra-weird anglo-saxon-puritanism crankery (I don't understand the psychological need for this even less nor does it even make sense to me at all, I didn't know the War of the Roses was going on in 21st century and anyway who gives a fuck) in the first post.

    What the fracking hell.
    , @Wally
    BINGO!

    All debates with Jews & their Cultural Marxists end up at fake Auschwitz.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/img/HHSl.jpg

    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau
    https://youtu.be/SUc6Y_E5zb0

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  2. Insidious.

    Devious.

    Selfish.

    Unscrupulous.

    Duplicitous.

    Ruthless.

    Diabolical.

    Supremacist.

    (Am I leaving anything out?)

    Ooh, wait.

    Democratic ally.

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    • Replies: @Miro23

    Am I leaving anything out?
     
    Yes, 100% Racist - Jews and Israel first through lobbying, corruption, blackmail, bribes, threats, nepotism, smear campaigns, False Flags, ME wars, FED QE debt creation and MSM propaganda.
    , @Binky
    ... You forgot 'hubrus'.
    , @Thorby
    Protecting Israel is also Vladimir Putin's job. Another NWO phony like Trump.
    https://www.henrymakow.com/2018/04/-jews-israel-andrussia--brendo.html
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  3. It’s more than time to question, it’s time to prosecute. If Alan Clemmons, or any other legislator, has gone to Israel, with any assistance from Israel financial or otherwise, then Clemmons (and others) have taken a bribe. Failure to prosecute, just as failure to enforce current immigration laws, is the road to anarchy.
    As for Judge Daniels, I guess I could cut him some slack, given it’s a default judgement, but that goes out the door if he was the judge that certified the case going forward in the first place. There is no prima facie evidence of Iran’s involvement in 9/11, and therefore, false statements made in the statement of claim are a perversion of justice. A judge is supposed to rule on facts, not conjecture.

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  4. Thomm says:

    It is a privilege to see a sophisticated Confuse and Conquer Jew like Ron Unz singlehandedly tie up hundreds if not thousands of White Trashionalists at once.

    Step 1 : Make a website that WNs use (since they can never build anything on their own). Let any and all anti-Semitic slurs stand on the website to make WNs complacent and even keyboard-courageous.
    Step 2 : Recruit the 2-3 intelligent authors that WNs read (Sailer, Derbyshire, etc.) who happen to bad at making money, so that they write for very little renumeration.
    Step 3 : After a few years, start pushing for normalization of Hispanics (even if illegal; especially if illegal).
    Step 4 : Deploy someone like Fred Reed to generate even more confusion, and then someone like Philip Giraldi to get the anti-Israel wing gathered in one place.

    It works…and it is a lesson in asymmetrical attrition warfare by a sophisticated Confuse and Conquer Jew.

    Ron Unz has said about 95% of this site disputes the fact that the real division is black vs non-black. I am among the 5% that agree with him (although I am more conservative than him, since I think there should be only skilled, legal immigration, not unskilled and certainly never illegal).

    Now, here is the thing. Those who talk about Auschwitz, lampshades, and soap never get moderated here, but those who agree with Ron Unz do. He will even get angry with those who agree with him too vocally, even as any and all anti-Israel content is fully welcome.

    Why?

    It is because he thinks it will expose his game of 4D chess from the perception of a 70-IQ WN. But I guarantee that it cannot, since the typical White Trashionalist is far below the IQ threshold where they can observe the many pieces in motion. I can describe Ron’s plan in full detail (and I fully support it), without any risk of the WNs figuring anything out (much less leaving this site).

    I am strongly in favor of what Ron Unz is doing.

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    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    Or, it could just be that Unz believes in Aristotle's theory that adopting intellectual virtues is the best way to get to the truth.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_virtue
    , @RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965
    Someone's more than a little triggered. In fact, pretty much any time I see one of your posts, you seem to be barely able to hide your unimaginative racist rhetoric behind that thin veil of holier than thou art pretentiousness you're always trying to beat whites over the head with around here instead of making an actual, cogent argument against white nationalism. Ever.

    Seriously, use the term 'white trashionalist' more. Maybe throw in an 'AmeriKKKa' while you're at it, for good measure. Your credibility is surging with each usage, after all. Confirming to the average reader here that you are definitely intelligent, completely above racism and falling for that racial division narrative. And under no circumstances are you just a petty racist with a chip on his shoulder and no real criticisms to make beyond the usual, par for the course ad hominem rhetoric one can find in the comments at WaPo.

    In one breath you assert that you are a part of the "5% that disputes the white/black division narrative", and then with practically every other word in your entire comment, you go on sowing the very seeds of division you just declared your opposition to by ridiculing whites with assertions that they.... get this..... have an IQ in the range of the average black person on this planet... It's comical, no?

    The irony is palpable. Though I am willing to bet it's utterly lost on a genius like you.

    Thanks for coming out.
    , @jacques sheete
    Oh, aren't you the clever one!

    Sowing confusion like a true rube. Keep it up; it's a pleasure to see how transparent and weak you schmucks can be.
    , @j2
    Many people wonder similar things. Ron Unz and The Unz Review? Is there a black list being compiled somewhere? But finally it does not matter. Truth matters.
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  5. Brabantian says: • Website

    75 years ago, people hid Jews to protect them from imprisonment and possible death by European-led jailers

    Now in 2018, people are hiding Europeans to protect them from imprisonment and possible death by Jewish-led jailers

    89-year-old Ursula Haverbeck-Wetzel is right now being hunted by German police at the behest of Jewish groups, because she did not show up at prison a few days ago, to serve a two-year-jail sentence for questioning the official narrative of the Jewish killings in World War II … It is recognised by Jews and others that at her age, the long jailing may kill her

    The ‘International Auschwitz Committee’ says German police should use ‘high pressure’ to find this elderly woman and imprison her, even tho it may kill her

    And yet Jews who speak like this claim they do not understand why people develop antipathy to Jews … It is in fact the International Auschwitz Committee which is ‘inciting anti-semitism’, as they inspire Germans to hide elderly people from Jews ‘like Anne Frank was hidden from Germans’

    However much Ursula Haverbeck might be in error in her historical opinions, this is appalling and shocking treatment of a grandmotherly woman soon to be 90 years of age … sending her very possibly to death for her ideas regarding an era to which she is a living personal witness (Haverbeck was born in 1928, and will turn age 90 this 8 November)

    This reminds of the case of a World War II Jewish witness, a rabbi’s son, who was with the Russian advance troops who liberated places like Auschwitz, Joseph Ginzburg – Joseph G Burg, direct interrogator of Auschwitz and other camp survivors … The fiercely anti-Nazi and very Jewish Burg, said the Holocaust was an exaggeration, a fraud fabricated by Zionists, he wrote books on this, & had many of those books burned by the modern West German government … tho the old Bonn regime never had the stomach to jail rabbi’s son Joseph Ginzburg (1908-90), despite his holocaust denial

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    A 90 year old woman must "serve a two-year-jail sentence for questioning the official narrative of the Jewish killings in World War II …"
    This is surreal. Liberal democracy (what's left of it) down the rabbit hole. Imprisonment as a consequence of questioning history ? Yes, I know, Germany has its ... sensitivities, but should historical guilt excuse a vicious assault on core values & a vulnerable individual ?
    , @Carroll Price

    However much Ursula Haverbeck might be in error in her historical opinions, ...
     
    Ursula Haverbeck is NOT in error in her historical opinions. Which, of course is the problem.
    , @mr meener
    how is the 90 year old Ursula in error?? list where she is "in error". are you part of the seek and destroy group hunting her?
    , @Wally
    Do tell us exactly how Haverbeck is "in error". We wait.

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/img/HHSl.jpg

    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau
    https://youtu.be/SUc6Y_E5zb0

    www.codoh.com

    , @c matt
    Hey, ‘International Auschwitz Committee,' if you are looking for Ursula Haverbeck-Wetzel , she is at Buckingham Palace posing as Queen Elizabeth II. Go get 'er.
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  6. MarkinLA says:

    OT but since it seems Israel first stooge Insane McCain is finally going to meet Satan.

    What I want to know is, has anybody announced how they intend to handle all the people who want to piss on his grave? Will there be a lottery, will there be those “take a number” machines, will it be first come first served or will there be some kind of contest, like writing an essay?

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    • Replies: @Moi
    He's asked that a Marine band play "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Eye-ran) at his funeral.
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  7. On the day of Sept 11, when I still, of course, believed the Muslim terror attack story, I said to my wife ‘just Israel benefits’.
    I simply could not see how these Muslim attacks benefitted Muslims.
    No idea, at the time, as Anatol Lieven also did not have at the end of the month, his article ‘New Cold War’ in the then still independent Guardian, that these attacks would be used to justify wars on Afghanistan and Iraq.
    It was 2004 when Hollings made his famous speech, promising war to AIPAC for the jewish vote, ‘that is politics’.

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    When the five dancing Israelis - who were “documenting the event” on 9/11 - were arrested in New Jersey, they told the arresting police officer:

    "We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem."

    Enough said.
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  8. @Grahamsno(G64)
    Blah Blah Blah Jewish power cannot be overthrown without deconstructing the 'Holocau$t' the myth of the holy 6 trillion. No victory without overthrowing this foundational mother of all lies. Either support the revisionists or shut the fuck up.

    Arthur R. Butz, ´The hoax of the twentieth century, The case against the presumed extermination of European Jewry’, Costa Mesa CA, 1977, 1989

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    • Replies: @Grahamsno(G64)
    He was the first revisionist author I read but at that time a couple of years ago I wasn't ready to believe that people could lie about the Holocaust so I did not accept his arguments though at the back of my head his powerful arguments showing that Nuremberg was a sham trial and that the Einsatzgruppen operation summary reports were absurd fabrications lurked and these doubts never went away. Around 5 months back I started reading Carlo Mattogno and Rudolf Germar at Holocaust handbooks (thanks to Wally) and I was convinced. The weak revisionist position that the Holocaust is history abused for political purposes and should be rejected out of hand pending a critical reinvestigation stands. I fully subscribe to it.
    , @Johnny Smoggins
    That book, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, is sold by neither Amazon, nor Barnes and Noble or any other major bookstore and is illegal to own or purchase in many countries.

    Does that not act as a red flag to people about the veracity of the claims of Jews and their supporters about "the holocaust"? If what Butz had written was nonsense or demonstrably false it would serve as an example of how wrong holocaust revisionists are right?

    A lot of people here probably rightly consider themselves to be fairly well informed. It's worth your time to watch this video, four hours in its entirety, which scientifically breaks down a lot of the claims made about what happened. It's what made me start to seriously question what I'd been told.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjMiZakKdzc
    , @Anon
    Like many, Butz’ book was the first revisionist book I read. It convinced me.
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  9. Realist says:

    Time to question the loyalty of some legislators and judges

    As well as Trump.

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    • Replies: @Scripted Reality
    The USA is chosen to fight for a small country.
    Who is ruling the US?
    Which country has so much pressure and lobby-groups to control US-politics via media?
    For example if Russia would have the same possibilities....like AIPAC, media power, moneymen etc.
    What would happen if Iran does a similar USS Liberty thing?

    Funny to see, when Nethayahu speaks in front of the Congress, US-Politicians give a lot of standing ovations and those politicians who did not stand up fast were been critiziced for a "lack of motivation" from the media.
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  10. I’m convinced the neocons will not pull this off this time. After many years of war a passive public may be catching on. I expect the price of oil to jolt upwards this afternoon. When people begin asking why …the answers need to be that our “ally” Israel keeps threatening war if they don’t get their way and Trump doesn’t tear up the P5+1 treaty.

    If your member of congress is either gung-ho on treaty repeal or even worse, talking about Iran regime change like Rudi , https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-committed-to-iran-regime-change-giuliani-says-1.6055510,, tell him or her that we can and will do better and expect to vote accordingly.

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    • Replies: @prusmc
    If I remember correctly, this was not a treaty. Via some legislative slight-of-hand, Mitch and Chuck worked out of a ratification by non-ratification. Then when its' passage was secure, SChumer could grandstand for the home folks and then vote in opposition.
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  11. Momus says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)
    Blah Blah Blah Jewish power cannot be overthrown without deconstructing the 'Holocau$t' the myth of the holy 6 trillion. No victory without overthrowing this foundational mother of all lies. Either support the revisionists or shut the fuck up.

    Why do you say the holocaust is a myth? I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

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    I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.
     
    LOL like not a single gassed victims body found and not a single major mass grave found. Overwhelming evidence indeed so overwhelming that you have to jail people who question this overwhelming mountain of evidence. Show me the bodies and I will believe in this miraculous mass murder where 6 million allegedly vanished without a trace.
    , @anarchyst
    I've been to Auschwitz, and, as an engineer, saw for myself the inconsistencies both in the stories and facilities claimed to have been used for extermination. Even if one-million were "gassed and cremated", the crematories would have been in operation through the 1950s to process that many bodies. The Auschwitz claims are utterly preposterous and false.
    , @Grahamsno(G64)
    I will give you the benefit of doubt and assume that you're an intellectually honest seeker of knowledge. Please read the revisionist scholars on the site below. These are serious and outstanding works.

    www.holocausthandbooks.com

    Carlo Mattogno is the most brilliant revisionist Historian please read him and comeback to me afterwards and honestly answer whether the evidence for the Holocaust is overwhelming.

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=31
    , @Zumbuddi
    My Laugh out Loud button is in the shop for repairs..

    LOL
    , @JustJeff
    The problem with the holocaust isn’t that it’s a myth, the problem is that it’s treated like a religious event and not a historical one. 70% of American jews believe remembering the holocaust is central to Jewish identity so it pretty much is a religion for secular Jews. We need to go back to treating it like a historical event and stop making it so emotional. There’s no reason why we should get more emotional over the holocauat versus any other genocide. It doesn’t make the Jews special and it doesn’t give them the right to oppress Palestinians and hijack American foreign policy.
    , @ISmellBagels
    It is an EXAGGERATION, full of specious claims.
    , @nickels
    Precisely.
    It is meant to be overwhelming , to overwhelm your reason and propagandize you to believe in a big tub of dung.
    , @gwynedd1
    Overwhelming evidence of what?

    Few deny that something happened to the Jews. What exactly that was is entirely another matter.
    , @j2
    I have been there 4 times. First time there was a sign that 4 million died. Last time they did not show the film anymore but merely explained that prisoners had to stand long hours on a name call, which for sure is true, and that a water pipe for washing which has many equal size holes and high pressure cannot possibly give out water except from the first few holes. At the same time in Krakow there were similar water pipes on the market place, they did give water from all holes(?) If you do yourself calculations of the dead and survivors maybe you find something odd.
    , @jacques sheete

    The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.
     
    UR is a place to experience at least occasional lucid intervals, not ludic ones but thanks for the laughs anyway.
    , @jacques sheete

    I have been to Auschwitz and other sites.
     
    So what? You think that confers some level of expertise or credibility? Wrong on both counts.

    I've never been to any of those places and intend to never go. Either way, I'd have a hard time believing anything you or the multitudes of other lying holocaust conspiracy theorists would say about it.
    , @Wally
    I've been to Disneyland and the evidence is overwhelming that Mickey Mouse is real.

    Tons of healthy Jews 'extermination camp Auschwitz' * at time of 'liberation':
    http://fcit.coedu.usf.edu/holocaust/PICS31/66935a.jpg
    http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/PICS31/85600.jpg
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J2jpuEZojE0/VONvKRjmXCI/AAAAAAAABX8/-GG_ralfWJA/s1600/Auschwitz.jpg

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where thousands of Jews chose to be left behind when the Germans left.

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where most of the inmates, more thousands, chose to leave WITH the Germans.

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where 1,250,000 human remains are supposedly buried, but no one can show us these remains.

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where the absurdly alleged homicidal 'gas chambers' could not have worked as alleged, as proven repeatedly, scientifically.

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where fake 'gas chambers' were "reconstructed" AFTER THE WAR.

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where detailed aerial photos of the period show nothing that is alleged to have been happening.

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where there are even obvious, laughable attempts to tamper with aerial photos that make a mockery of the fake storyline.
    see:
    'Auschwitz Aerial photos, tampered with to fit the fake story'
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11669&p=87558

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where there were / are countless Jew "survivors".

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where so called "survivors" say the most impossible and conflicting things that do not hold up to scrutiny, would be laughed out of a legit court of law.

    www.codoh.com

    , @John Kirby
    There are TOO MANY HOLES in the official Holocaust story. Why would the Nazis transport Jews all the way to Auschwitz in Poland to kill them? Why use irritant cyanide gas (ZYKLON) when carbon monoxide from a badly ventilated stove would kill them painlessly in 15 minutes? Why were there 4.3 million survivors claiming compensation from Germany? Why did the Red Cross only give 272,000 as the total number of deaths in ALL the camps? Why was there a hospital, a pharmacy, a theatre, an orchestra, a choir, a library and a swimming pool and a soccer pitch at Auschwitz, in a death camp?

    There are no signs on wartime aerial photographs of the trainloads of coke that would have been required to incinerate millions of bodies? Why weren’t thousands of tons of ashes and bones ever found? The piles of bodies show emaciation typical of starvation and disease, things that would not have time to occur if people were being gassed on arrival. It was Typhus, dysentery and starvation that killed these people, because by 1944 allied bombing had destroyed the infrastructure of Germany.

    When there are so many inconsistencies in a scenario we SHOULD be skeptical.

    DOUBLE STANDARDS. The holocaust has been pounded into us for 70 years, but there is never a mention of the reign of terror conducted by the mainly Jewish Bolsheviks against the Russia people; 66 million dead (Solzhenitsyn). If most people knew about this it would stop the holier-than-thou-and-don’t-you-dare-criticize-us Jewish attitude. We are only allowed to say nice things about Jews. The story of the Holocaust was the main reason for the creation of Israel and the rise of Jewish Power, and we all, (but mostly the Palestinians), now have to live with the consequences of ethnocentric, racial supremacist and militaristic Jews subjugating the Palestinians and stealing their country, bit by bit.
    , @MrB
    Really? And on your day out to the theme park aka Auschwitz what proof specifically that convinced you that between 1.1m and 4m people were killed there?
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  12. Mata Hari says:

    The Holocaust Hoax is the mother of all lies and it is amazing how reference to it appears in all things. But as it is a religion, it appears that its dogmas cannot be questioned. After all, without the Holohoax, where would the Jews as a power group be???

    Why, without them, we might have burned the Central banks in all countries.

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  13. @Brabantian
    75 years ago, people hid Jews to protect them from imprisonment and possible death by European-led jailers

    Now in 2018, people are hiding Europeans to protect them from imprisonment and possible death by Jewish-led jailers

    89-year-old Ursula Haverbeck-Wetzel is right now being hunted by German police at the behest of Jewish groups, because she did not show up at prison a few days ago, to serve a two-year-jail sentence for questioning the official narrative of the Jewish killings in World War II ... It is recognised by Jews and others that at her age, the long jailing may kill her

    The 'International Auschwitz Committee' says German police should use 'high pressure' to find this elderly woman and imprison her, even tho it may kill her

    And yet Jews who speak like this claim they do not understand why people develop antipathy to Jews ... It is in fact the International Auschwitz Committee which is 'inciting anti-semitism', as they inspire Germans to hide elderly people from Jews 'like Anne Frank was hidden from Germans'

    However much Ursula Haverbeck might be in error in her historical opinions, this is appalling and shocking treatment of a grandmotherly woman soon to be 90 years of age ... sending her very possibly to death for her ideas regarding an era to which she is a living personal witness (Haverbeck was born in 1928, and will turn age 90 this 8 November)

    This reminds of the case of a World War II Jewish witness, a rabbi's son, who was with the Russian advance troops who liberated places like Auschwitz, Joseph Ginzburg - Joseph G Burg, direct interrogator of Auschwitz and other camp survivors ... The fiercely anti-Nazi and very Jewish Burg, said the Holocaust was an exaggeration, a fraud fabricated by Zionists, he wrote books on this, & had many of those books burned by the modern West German government ... tho the old Bonn regime never had the stomach to jail rabbi's son Joseph Ginzburg (1908-90), despite his holocaust denial

    A 90 year old woman must “serve a two-year-jail sentence for questioning the official narrative of the Jewish killings in World War II …”
    This is surreal. Liberal democracy (what’s left of it) down the rabbit hole. Imprisonment as a consequence of questioning history ? Yes, I know, Germany has its … sensitivities, but should historical guilt excuse a vicious assault on core values & a vulnerable individual ?

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    A 90 year old woman must “serve a two-year-jail sentence for questioning the official narrative of the Jewish killings in World War II …”
    This is surreal. Liberal democracy (what’s left of it) down the rabbit hole. Imprisonment as a consequence of questioning history ? Yes, I know, Germany has its … sensitivities, but should historical guilt excuse a vicious assault on core values & a vulnerable individual ?
     
    The “six million lie” is coming home to roost. It is no longer shutting people up – it is making them mad.

    There is ZERO love for Jews and Israel among the German people. Fly an Israeli flag in a German city, and with hours it will disappear.

    Trump is killing the Iran nuke deal, he is forcing German business to halt sales and to knuckle under to US demands (i.e., Israeli demands). Even the Israel loving sycophant German politicians bristle over killing this nuke agreement.

    How long will it be before Germany joins Poland and Hungry in openly defying Jews. Sentiment is moving. Defiance is growing. It is more today then it was yesterday, and the same with the day before that.

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Maintain Hope --- Art
    , @lavoisier
    Pretty disgusting behavior from the modern day German Bolsheviks.
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  14. m___ says:

    No context to the article that matters. Lost in deviations.

    The real issue: any transaction to and from Israel makes some Jewish and elite non Jewish Americans accessory. Israel is a fiscal off-shore through passage for decanting public funds to private hands, a physical vault to hold assets, reinsert assets into the global financial system.

    As imprecise as can be, but to popularize the situation: the before Castro, Cuba Mafia save haven.

    One must realize that when the dollar, as is happening looses part of it’s reserve status(currently under way, partly global transactions start escaping the dollar accountability, thus leaving a smaller margin of cooking the books), there need to be a trustworthy insertion point into the Yuan, any digital currency, international financial markets, currency speculation for the elites of the West, evasion of embargos for the exeptionals.

    This is partly the explanation of “military capitalism” deployed rather recently in insider circles to capture an existing situation where the US is left to prop up it’s financial make believe using military show of. That is partly why “war” is so publicly discussed, actions are leaked, this contrary to what real war requires, deep stealth.

    Israel is a Swiss knife for corporate international billionaires, no billionaires no Israel.

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  15. m___ says:

    Not the appropriate place, but any direct contact with the site and/or author is shuttered.

    Individual feeds, per article mostly do not function, regardless of browser used. This could be the responsibility as per author, or site-wide. Please address. Granular jumping is a first as to efficient reading and searching.

    thnks,

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  16. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    All those American legislators that get a free ticket and accommodations to visit the nation that they protect and defend with pro-Israel, anti-Free Speech laws are guilty of violating the Logan Act; petitioning the USG to help a foreign power maintain its grip over the USA.

    Not that any will be prosecuted, since that would be anti-Semitic, even though they are shredding the Bill of Rights for the glory of Apartheid Israel.

    If we get dragged into fighting another war against anther nation Israel wants destroyed, we’ll know who the culprits are and who guided them.

    Israel wants a piece of Syria; a piece of Iraq; a piece of Saudi Arabia; a piece of Lebanon; a piece of Jordan; a piece of Turkey; a piece of Egypt and whatever pieces are left after they genocide Palestine out of existence.

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  17. @Momus
    Why do you say the holocaust is a myth? I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

    I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

    LOL like not a single gassed victims body found and not a single major mass grave found. Overwhelming evidence indeed so overwhelming that you have to jail people who question this overwhelming mountain of evidence. Show me the bodies and I will believe in this miraculous mass murder where 6 million allegedly vanished without a trace.

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    There are hundreds of mass grave sites throughout Europe where the Jewish victims of the Nazis have been identified by name. You are on the wrong side of history talking out your arse.
    , @headrick
    Well it takes 3 hours create a body to ashes, 3* 6,000,000 / 24 = 750,000 days. If there were
    10 crematorium, working 24 hours a day, well thats still 75,000 days. A forensic team went looking for the ashes even, and could not find much of anything. The structures at Auschwitz were built for tourists. There is not much left of the original buildings. Why put the citizens of the world through this bigot test of fire- holocaust denial? Victim-hood confers entitlement I guess, but why not make up a more believable story?
    It's so far fetched that sometimes I think it was not made to withstand critical inspection at all, maybe just to make people kneel to the myth, and submit to their master.
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  18. Would the JASTA act open the way for litigation against Israel’s involvement in 9/11?

    Of course, there would have to be a change in venue because the southern district of manhattan is kind of evil’s homecourt.

    Might be just the right crack in the absurdity, to investigate, prosecute and sentence the perpetrators. I mean if they can go after a ninety year old woman,why not a geriatric Jerome Hauser, Dov Zakheim, etc?

    Just spit-balling here, I’ll go back to my observational pessimism…

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  19. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Thomm
    It is a privilege to see a sophisticated Confuse and Conquer Jew like Ron Unz singlehandedly tie up hundreds if not thousands of White Trashionalists at once.

    Step 1 : Make a website that WNs use (since they can never build anything on their own). Let any and all anti-Semitic slurs stand on the website to make WNs complacent and even keyboard-courageous.
    Step 2 : Recruit the 2-3 intelligent authors that WNs read (Sailer, Derbyshire, etc.) who happen to bad at making money, so that they write for very little renumeration.
    Step 3 : After a few years, start pushing for normalization of Hispanics (even if illegal; especially if illegal).
    Step 4 : Deploy someone like Fred Reed to generate even more confusion, and then someone like Philip Giraldi to get the anti-Israel wing gathered in one place.

    It works…and it is a lesson in asymmetrical attrition warfare by a sophisticated Confuse and Conquer Jew.

    Ron Unz has said about 95% of this site disputes the fact that the real division is black vs non-black. I am among the 5% that agree with him (although I am more conservative than him, since I think there should be only skilled, legal immigration, not unskilled and certainly never illegal).

    Now, here is the thing. Those who talk about Auschwitz, lampshades, and soap never get moderated here, but those who agree with Ron Unz do. He will even get angry with those who agree with him too vocally, even as any and all anti-Israel content is fully welcome.

    Why?

    It is because he thinks it will expose his game of 4D chess from the perception of a 70-IQ WN. But I guarantee that it cannot, since the typical White Trashionalist is far below the IQ threshold where they can observe the many pieces in motion. I can describe Ron’s plan in full detail (and I fully support it), without any risk of the WNs figuring anything out (much less leaving this site).

    I am strongly in favor of what Ron Unz is doing.

    Or, it could just be that Unz believes in Aristotle’s theory that adopting intellectual virtues is the best way to get to the truth.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_virtue

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    @Thomm
    Or, it could just be that Unz believes in Aristotle’s theory that adopting intellectual virtues is the best way to get to the truth.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_virtue
     
    Wait your saying if there are two explanations for something, the simpler one is usually better. That maybe it's not a sophiscated 4D chess match. There should be a name for this concept, like Occam's razor or something.
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  20. @Brabantian
    75 years ago, people hid Jews to protect them from imprisonment and possible death by European-led jailers

    Now in 2018, people are hiding Europeans to protect them from imprisonment and possible death by Jewish-led jailers

    89-year-old Ursula Haverbeck-Wetzel is right now being hunted by German police at the behest of Jewish groups, because she did not show up at prison a few days ago, to serve a two-year-jail sentence for questioning the official narrative of the Jewish killings in World War II ... It is recognised by Jews and others that at her age, the long jailing may kill her

    The 'International Auschwitz Committee' says German police should use 'high pressure' to find this elderly woman and imprison her, even tho it may kill her

    And yet Jews who speak like this claim they do not understand why people develop antipathy to Jews ... It is in fact the International Auschwitz Committee which is 'inciting anti-semitism', as they inspire Germans to hide elderly people from Jews 'like Anne Frank was hidden from Germans'

    However much Ursula Haverbeck might be in error in her historical opinions, this is appalling and shocking treatment of a grandmotherly woman soon to be 90 years of age ... sending her very possibly to death for her ideas regarding an era to which she is a living personal witness (Haverbeck was born in 1928, and will turn age 90 this 8 November)

    This reminds of the case of a World War II Jewish witness, a rabbi's son, who was with the Russian advance troops who liberated places like Auschwitz, Joseph Ginzburg - Joseph G Burg, direct interrogator of Auschwitz and other camp survivors ... The fiercely anti-Nazi and very Jewish Burg, said the Holocaust was an exaggeration, a fraud fabricated by Zionists, he wrote books on this, & had many of those books burned by the modern West German government ... tho the old Bonn regime never had the stomach to jail rabbi's son Joseph Ginzburg (1908-90), despite his holocaust denial

    However much Ursula Haverbeck might be in error in her historical opinions, …

    Ursula Haverbeck is NOT in error in her historical opinions. Which, of course is the problem.

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  21. @jilles dykstra
    Arthur R. Butz, ´The hoax of the twentieth century, The case against the presumed extermination of European Jewry’, Costa Mesa CA, 1977, 1989

    He was the first revisionist author I read but at that time a couple of years ago I wasn’t ready to believe that people could lie about the Holocaust so I did not accept his arguments though at the back of my head his powerful arguments showing that Nuremberg was a sham trial and that the Einsatzgruppen operation summary reports were absurd fabrications lurked and these doubts never went away. Around 5 months back I started reading Carlo Mattogno and Rudolf Germar at Holocaust handbooks (thanks to Wally) and I was convinced. The weak revisionist position that the Holocaust is history abused for political purposes and should be rejected out of hand pending a critical reinvestigation stands. I fully subscribe to it.

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  22. anarchyst says:

    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent Zionists formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the “transfer” of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Nothing about extermination.

    Official International Red Cross figures for all camp “deaths” total around 731,000–NOT “6 million”. In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war…

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not “add up”…

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the “yellow Star of David” armband so that they could be easily identified.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out . . .

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE “KANGAROO COURTS” THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. A question for you “holocaust ™” promoters–why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a “cash cow” that “keeps on giving”. . . “there’s NO business like “SHOAH business”.
    Jewish complicity in this event is carefully “covered up”.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question “official” jewish “holocaust” orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the “official” jewish “holocaust” story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to “all things holocaust”. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment. . .

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the “chosen”) to engineer the jewish “holocaust”, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish “holocaust” was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many “holocausts” of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish “holocaust” is the only one that counts . . .

    Look at the “commercialization of the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish “holocaust ™” “survivors”, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean “camp” numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and “disease”–”holocaust ™ “transference syndrome”. You see, children and grandchildren of jewish “holocaust ™” survivors are infected with this “disease” and should also be considered “holocaust ™” survivors, eligible for “holocaust ™” reparations.

    Since the jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews’ declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish “homeland for the last two-hundred years while predicting a “holocaust ™” of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures).

    Regarding that “holocaust ™” “showplace” Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called “gas chambers”. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called “gassing” took place”. There is a “gas chamber” chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the “operators” of these supposed “gas chambers”. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these “camps”.

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported “gas chambers”, had them tested and published his results. The absence of Prussian blue (ferricyanide) in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the “gas chambers” did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the “chimney” for the supposed “gas chamber” does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to “create” the “death camps” for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were “liberated” by the “allies”, the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be “liberated” by the Russian “allies”.

    I urge those “holocaust ™” believers to check these things out for yourselves–IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find…

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    Great info packed Post!!....Also, these hoax believers like momus et al, do NOT really want a real proof and documented factual answer to their many question's like as example: "But but!! tell me why you think it isn't real or call it a Hoax" etc etc........

    It simply is a knee jerk programed brainwashed response on their part due to their unexplainable deep desire to "Arise!! All you Defenders of all issues jewish! and complain, question, Bash and when ALL else Fails......Call em all an Antisemitenaziwhowantstokillsixmillion MORE!"

    Then....They have a huge mixed inner deep seated feeling, all emotional driven,of really having Done something really good for jews.

    And Always....ALWAYS!...The exact same mental programing effect of never willing to reply with sound factual answers, and never ever ever ever being willing to actually READ/research Any of tons of other's well provided, too many to count, Books-Websites-RABBIS & Various highly rated jewish historians etc that provide those who are wide awake to this mass hoax with Most of the Revisionist materials!.......They will reject to research any of it, and resort to vile name calls, and if you provide any jewish or rabbi sourced proof....Their response will likely be.."Well that rabbi or jewish writer is just a Self-Hater-jew!!!"

    OyVeh!.....Whats a good Bapduh apostate jewdeochristowhacko schofield bible believer to do eh?

    Answer: Just keep repeating over and over that OT genesis verse of "Gen: 12 vs 3" And fully Mis-interpret it so that any word like "Seed" or "Israel" always means the word "jew or jewish"!

    Never mind that one Must read thru almost...500-Pages...Yes 500! Before the very word of "jew" can be found in the bible!....From page One to page, almost, page 500 Before he word jew appears!

    Just wait for the fireworks replies once you alert them to this Fact!

    Or ask: "So did Abram (later called Abraham) somehow Forget to tell us all he was a jew or what?

    And same for moses, Jacob and many more OT persons....NONE remembered to mention how they was a jew....Hmmmmm....

    And Disclaimer in advance:...yes yes I am aware that poster who asked why call it a hoax, then when all else fails began to call folks nice enough to answer he/she, vile names like arse.....Never to my knowledge stated anything about the bible etc...

    I just wanted to Include that part incase we do see another apostate schofield whacko Israel firster try to use that OT verse again....It is an abject 100% Fail as any "bless Israel state or bless jews" proof period....And the NT Paul writer in Galations chapters is where they can locate Truth which actually Names that OT genesis verse so relied upon(wrongly) and fully explains why and how they are so totally wrong....NOwheres biblically states any such thing of "Bless the jews".

    Indeed!...Those very First and still today foremost Antichrists and Anti-Christians self chozen self worshippers are somehow "special" due to Cyrus Schofield's interpretations eh?

    Ok so who Was cyrus schofield?...Just a Failed Husband/Father/Politition/Drunk/Gambler/Dis-Bared Felonious convicted Lawyer and Pal of a grandkid of Rothschild jew bankster clan!...Failed at everything, except for his great grand Dupeing bible apostacy that has more bad influence today than even AIPAC can muster in congress and the white house and state dept and msm.

    Anybody asking or demanding any proof etc that then refuses to ever LOOK at or READ/Research given proofs and usually given by a fuckin Boatload, is not seeking real answers but only "performing" as Trained/Brainwashed by jewry and usually also by apostate falsehood preachermen to do period....

    One final statement question for ALL such foolish defenders and supporters of all things jewry.

    Question: "If" as those who base it mostly on biblical verses as mentioned above, believe in a so called "God wont bless America or Us unless We first bless jewry/Israel state"?

    TELL Us when and where will such great God's blessings happen in or to us and usa?

    Because about the very same time frame of 1950-60 era when such bless jews=get gods blessings began to get promoted.......And right when Israel became a state nation per UN mandates.

    All Observant folks in usa and elsewhere can see for Real is....That since falsehoods of bless jewry started....America has gone ALL Down Hill into a full Blown CURSED Nation!

    And incase the foolish ones are really behind in factual truths on these cursed issues?

    Here I will assist you with just the Two Main major curses upon usa and Us non jews.

    #1=Jewry...#2 curse= Hoards of non white invaders brought Here by Mainly jewish slavers! And Later via Open borders Divirsity crap swindle scams....I'd Bet if most awake folk had to pick just One of the two main curses....to boot out...They'd no doubt begin a boot out with jewry first.

    Like Car Maker Genius Henry Ford's 1922 Book Title state's it...

    "International Jewry.....The World's Foremost Problem".....Indeed Mr. Ford.
    , @EliteCommInc.
    Interesting. I find that the events of WWII have little bearing on evaluating Israel's behavior today.


    The most one would get from a dismissal of the persecution of the Jews during WWII would be a pass from the guilt mongering. But i would still contend Israel has a right to exist. i would still they have a right to self defense and i would still not support


    1. giving Israel a carte balnche' pass for everything she does.

    2. I would still challenge Israel's behavior of moving settlement -- really mid-sized cities in territory
    she has no business in and i would still support

    3. a two state solution, a buyout or some other Palestinian agreed upon solution.

    4. still oppose US legislation making criticizing any foreign state a crime - that's really bizarre.


    Holocaust or no holocaust just doesn't enter into it.
    , @Incitatus
    “I’ve been to Auschwitz, and, as an engineer, saw for myself the inconsistencies…”

    Engineer? Really?

    “...Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .”

    “Practicing engineering without a license” is not “an obscure Massachusetts “law”…never used before or since”. Such prosecution is routine. Three 2018 cases thus far:

    https://www.mass.gov/dpl-disciplinary-actions

    Previous years:

    http://www.mass.gov/ocabr/licensee/dpl-boards/en/massachusetts-board-of-registration-of.html

    The same is true in every state. You should know that. Are you really an engineer?

    “Leuchter signed a consent decree with the board, in which he stated that he was not and had never been registered as a professional engineer, despite having represented himself as one”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_A._Leuchter
     
    In other words, Fred lied and admitted it. True to form, he later said “Although the state's licensing law has been in effect since 1940, there has been no record of any prosecution for this offense…”

    Another lie. How can anyone believe anything he says?

    Spamming obvious falsehood destroys your credibility.
    , @Meimou
    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.pt

    What do you think about this site?
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  23. anarchyst says:

    American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets “foreign aid” in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship only reinforces “split loyalty”–NOT upholding the interests of the United States, and must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should not be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

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    The American Presidents Johnson and Nixon were satisfied with the Israeli explanation that they would not be the first to introduce nuclear weapons to the mid east. Successive administrations accept this declaration and are not interested in forcing them to join the IAEA.

    Fair enough too given the history of their persecution and the massive contributions of Jewish brainpower to America's bomb project and many prior and subsequent, scientific, medical, legal and industrial efforts.

    , @Seoulsurvivor
    What Israel receives from the U.S. isn't technically foreign aid. It is actually aid for our politicians. This is how U.S. politicians launder the kick backs the Israelis use to the buy said same U.S. politicians.

    Israel is not our buddy, Israel is not our ally. It is more of a host\parasite relationship. The Israelis represent a Mini-me but it is Mini-me that is in charge.

    If we hadn't established Israel, or established Israel with the caveat that they are on their own and learn to get along with your neighbors, we would not be seeing the mess we see now.

    And the U.S. and Iran would be doing just peachy now if we didn't foist the Shah on them.
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  24. anarchyst says:
    @Momus
    Why do you say the holocaust is a myth? I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

    I’ve been to Auschwitz, and, as an engineer, saw for myself the inconsistencies both in the stories and facilities claimed to have been used for extermination. Even if one-million were “gassed and cremated”, the crematories would have been in operation through the 1950s to process that many bodies. The Auschwitz claims are utterly preposterous and false.

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    As Brother Nathanael points out, in Elie Wiesel’s autobiographical book about his experiences at Auschwitz and Buchenwald, Wiesel never mentions gas chambers but rather execution of Jews by throwing them into flaming pits. You don’t need to be a conspiracy nut to question his exclusion of gas chambers in his autobiographical work about Nazi death camps or to find the claim of execution by throwing into flaming pits as ludicrous.

    We see even today, the case of “Assad gassing his own people”, how ludicrous the lies can be and how the controllers of the official narrative can easily get the vast majority of the people to accept the lies as fact. And even get them emotional and crying about these lies.
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  25. @Momus
    Why do you say the holocaust is a myth? I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

    I will give you the benefit of doubt and assume that you’re an intellectually honest seeker of knowledge. Please read the revisionist scholars on the site below. These are serious and outstanding works.

    http://www.holocausthandbooks.com

    Carlo Mattogno is the most brilliant revisionist Historian please read him and comeback to me afterwards and honestly answer whether the evidence for the Holocaust is overwhelming.

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=31

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  26. The text says: “The legislation borrows from the U.S. State Department definition of anti-Semitism, which proscribes speech that “demonizes” or applies “double standards” to Israel “by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation” as anti-Semitic.”

    I’m no legal expert, but this seems quite doubtful to me. It transforms law in a joke. How can you know what is expected of other democratic nations? Who is going to decide that? And what is relevant, the general opinions of everybody about democratic countries, the opinions by specialists on democracy, the personal opinions of the judges, or the opinions of the accused person? If what counts are the opinions of the accused, how are you going to know what he thinks about other democracies? What if there are different opinions about democracy among specialists? In that case are some of the opinions about democracy going to be declared illegal or wrong by a court? What if someone argues that Israel isn’t a democracy and has good arguments to show that this is the case? In any case, what’s the problem with double standards? The only problem might be that you are hypocritical? If this is a problem, are you going to prosecute anyone who is a hypocrite? If not, can you say that the law itself is hypocritical because it uses double standards? Is the law in this case antisemitic and illegal? Do you have to prosecute the people responsible for this law because it uses double standards protecting a democracy while not protecting any other democracy?

    Second, how can a law of this kind refer to a specific entity, a particular country and still be legal? The law seems to favour discrimination. Why isn’t there a specific law to favour me? New Article 2 of the American Constitution: “Uncommon Ground is to be treated with utmost respect by everybody, nobody is allowed to criticise him, he can have a free lunch wherever he wants, he may enter any national park freely and so on.” So, don’t think of criticising my comment.

    Third, this seems dangerous. Couldn’t it be used against Zionists accused of double standards every time that they speak? Wouldn’t it be possible to send people to jail who defend the country accusing them of double standards?

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  27. mr meener says:
    @Brabantian
    75 years ago, people hid Jews to protect them from imprisonment and possible death by European-led jailers

    Now in 2018, people are hiding Europeans to protect them from imprisonment and possible death by Jewish-led jailers

    89-year-old Ursula Haverbeck-Wetzel is right now being hunted by German police at the behest of Jewish groups, because she did not show up at prison a few days ago, to serve a two-year-jail sentence for questioning the official narrative of the Jewish killings in World War II ... It is recognised by Jews and others that at her age, the long jailing may kill her

    The 'International Auschwitz Committee' says German police should use 'high pressure' to find this elderly woman and imprison her, even tho it may kill her

    And yet Jews who speak like this claim they do not understand why people develop antipathy to Jews ... It is in fact the International Auschwitz Committee which is 'inciting anti-semitism', as they inspire Germans to hide elderly people from Jews 'like Anne Frank was hidden from Germans'

    However much Ursula Haverbeck might be in error in her historical opinions, this is appalling and shocking treatment of a grandmotherly woman soon to be 90 years of age ... sending her very possibly to death for her ideas regarding an era to which she is a living personal witness (Haverbeck was born in 1928, and will turn age 90 this 8 November)

    This reminds of the case of a World War II Jewish witness, a rabbi's son, who was with the Russian advance troops who liberated places like Auschwitz, Joseph Ginzburg - Joseph G Burg, direct interrogator of Auschwitz and other camp survivors ... The fiercely anti-Nazi and very Jewish Burg, said the Holocaust was an exaggeration, a fraud fabricated by Zionists, he wrote books on this, & had many of those books burned by the modern West German government ... tho the old Bonn regime never had the stomach to jail rabbi's son Joseph Ginzburg (1908-90), despite his holocaust denial

    how is the 90 year old Ursula in error?? list where she is “in error”. are you part of the seek and destroy group hunting her?

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  28. Anonymous[196] • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst
    I've been to Auschwitz, and, as an engineer, saw for myself the inconsistencies both in the stories and facilities claimed to have been used for extermination. Even if one-million were "gassed and cremated", the crematories would have been in operation through the 1950s to process that many bodies. The Auschwitz claims are utterly preposterous and false.

    As Brother Nathanael points out, in Elie Wiesel’s autobiographical book about his experiences at Auschwitz and Buchenwald, Wiesel never mentions gas chambers but rather execution of Jews by throwing them into flaming pits. You don’t need to be a conspiracy nut to question his exclusion of gas chambers in his autobiographical work about Nazi death camps or to find the claim of execution by throwing into flaming pits as ludicrous.

    We see even today, the case of “Assad gassing his own people”, how ludicrous the lies can be and how the controllers of the official narrative can easily get the vast majority of the people to accept the lies as fact. And even get them emotional and crying about these lies.

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    Elie Wiesel, 'La Nuit', 1958, 2007
    Wiesel assumed the gas chambers in Birkenau, where he never was.
    He did see chimneys, that were there, the crematoria.
    Too lazy to find the exact words, and translate them.
    I wonder if anyone ever read this book with attention, what he describes about the Auschwitz camps he was in, several, fits with what Rassinier and others describe, the camps had self management.
    Paul Rassinier, ´Was ist Wahrheit ?, Die Juden und das Dritte Reich´, Leoni am Starnberger See, 7th printing, 1981 (Le véritable procès Eichmann ou les vainqueurs incorrigibles, 1963; The Real Eichmann Trial or the Incorrigible Victors. ISBN: 0911038485, 1983)
    Eugen Kogon, ‘Der SS-Staat, Das System der deutschen Konzentrationslager’, 1974, München
    J.G. Burg, Schuld und Schicksal, Europas Juden zwischen Henkern und Heuchlern, München, 1962
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  29. Jake says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)
    Blah Blah Blah Jewish power cannot be overthrown without deconstructing the 'Holocau$t' the myth of the holy 6 trillion. No victory without overthrowing this foundational mother of all lies. Either support the revisionists or shut the fuck up.

    Latecomer, very late, to the party.

    What you note required a process that began with the Judaizing heresy Anglo-Saxon Puritanism. Then the Puritans spend decades getting much richer and becoming the most active group in English politics, one demanding changes that could come only with large scale violence to destroy.

    The Puritan Revolution was necessary, making Anglo-Saxon Judaizing the heresy that would be the basis of WASP culture, of Modern English culture. Then Archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell made concrete the meaning of Anglo-Saxon Puritanism by allying with Jews, taking Jewish money (to Jews, being bought by Jews) , granting Jews the right to return to England and granting Jews special rights and privileges. And that deal was made precisely so Cromwell could slaughter more white Christians native to the British Isles.

    From the time it became fully established as itself, as opposed to being a stage of pre-Reformation English identity and deep-culture, WASP culture was allied with Jews so WASP culture could destroy more white Gentiles and their local cultures.

    The British Empire took that culture’s attitudes and manners and morals worldwide.

    All of the above was absolutely necessary to what we suffer from today. Today, that WASP Empire still exists, its main capital moved from London to DC and NYC, with Hollywood its entertainment and propaganda capital.

    The Holocaust will remain sacrosanct anywhere that WASP culture rules, anywhere the values and mores, the identity, of WASP culture sets standards and uses it guns and banks to make them stick.

    Of course, you can’t have the rise of the Judaizing Anglo-Saxon Puritans without the Reformation, so perhaps we should start there.

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    Communism as ethnic warfare. Jews use ideological subterfuge to mask their ethnic-driven eliminationist attacks upon European Christians and European Christendom.

    Cromwellism as ethnic warfare. Teutonic twat Cromwell uses parliamentary power struggle to attack Anglo-Normans and the Celtic periphery.

    Can't we all get along? Sorry, Sir Rodney King, we can't.
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  30. Zumbuddi says:
    @Momus
    Why do you say the holocaust is a myth? I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

    My Laugh out Loud button is in the shop for repairs..

    LOL

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  31. Momus says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.
     
    LOL like not a single gassed victims body found and not a single major mass grave found. Overwhelming evidence indeed so overwhelming that you have to jail people who question this overwhelming mountain of evidence. Show me the bodies and I will believe in this miraculous mass murder where 6 million allegedly vanished without a trace.

    There are hundreds of mass grave sites throughout Europe where the Jewish victims of the Nazis have been identified by name. You are on the wrong side of history talking out your arse.

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    In 1999 Two Archeology experts took the Same type Ground Penetrating Radar machinery as used on the TV show Ice Road Truckers, used to check via xray type computer assisted graphs the Depth of Ice to see if road is Safe to drive upon......Same exact machinery taken to 1/2 Dozen or so "Camps" to search for buried bodies and or ash of burned after exumed millions bodies as claimed by many jews.

    They located ZERO bodies-Bones-Ash's-Teeth fragments etc. ZERO-NONE!

    And in year 2000 French and other newspapers did long articles on this mission to locate.

    ZERO=NONE!

    What Do You Not as Yet...Get eh?

    oh I forgot you have refused to read or research ANY provided info or websites or books and rather keep asking questions or "educating" all the wide awake smart folks here with repetitive falsehoods that You provide zero proof of....OyVeh....
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  32. prusmc says: • Website
    @Mark James
    I'm convinced the neocons will not pull this off this time. After many years of war a passive public may be catching on. I expect the price of oil to jolt upwards this afternoon. When people begin asking why ...the answers need to be that our "ally" Israel keeps threatening war if they don't get their way and Trump doesn't tear up the P5+1 treaty.

    If your member of congress is either gung-ho on treaty repeal or even worse, talking about Iran regime change like Rudi , https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-committed-to-iran-regime-change-giuliani-says-1.6055510,, tell him or her that we can and will do better and expect to vote accordingly.

    If I remember correctly, this was not a treaty. Via some legislative slight-of-hand, Mitch and Chuck worked out of a ratification by non-ratification. Then when its’ passage was secure, SChumer could grandstand for the home folks and then vote in opposition.

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  33. Strange how many people are obsessing about Jewish victimhood during WWII. How can they, then, explain that way too many Jews in Europe disappeared? Vast swaths of their population in Poland, Ukraine, Romania, Belarus, Russia, Netherlands, Hungary,…- gone irreversibly.

    I don’t know the exact figure, but most historians agree that number would be somewhere from 5 to 6 million.

    http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm

    Holocaust

    Extermination of the Jews: [make link]:

    Reitlinger, Gerald, The Final Solution (1953): between 4,194,200 and 4,851,200 (this number is accepted by Kinder, The Anchor Atlas of World History (1978))
    Brzezinski: 5,000,000
    Chirot: 5,100,000
    3,000,000 in death camps.
    1,300,000 massacred.
    800,000 by dis./maln. in ghettos
    David E. Stannard, “The Politics of Genocide Scholarship,” in Alan S. Rosenbaum, ed., Is the Holocaust Unique? Perspectives on Comparative Genocide (1996), p. 178. By one estimate, 2.4 million of the 5.1 million victims of the Holocaust died of disease in ghettos and concentration camps.
    Rummel: 5,291,000
    Grenville: 5-6M
    Davies, Europe A History (1998): avg. c. 5,571,300 (puts the minimum at 4,871,000 and the maximum at 6,271,500.)
    MEDIAN: ca. 5.6M
    Nuremberg indictment: 5,700,000 (accepted by Britannica)
    Gutman, Encyclopedia of the Holocaust (1990): 5,596,029 to 5,860,129
    P. Johnson: 5,800,000
    Wallechinsky: “nearly” 6,000,000
    Urlanis: 6M

    As for “who killed most”, opinions are divided:

    http://necrometrics.com/tyrants.htm


    Question: Who was the Bloodiest Tyrant of the 20th Century?

    Answer: We don’t know.

    1. Mao- 40M
    Hitler- 34M
    Stalin- 20M

    2. Hitler- 34M
    Stalin-20M
    Mao-10M

    3. Stalin -20M
    Hitler-15
    Mao-10M

    4. Hitler-34M
    Stalin-20M
    Mao-10M
    ..
    So, the answer to the question of “Who is roasting on the hottest fires in Hell?” is “Well, that depends…”

    As for general WWII victimology, there are too many variables:

    https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

    Research Starters: Worldwide Deaths in World War II
    ………………..

    China 20,000,000
    Germany 6,600,000-8,800,000
    Soviet Union 24,000,000
    ……….

    So, while ethnic Jewish activists can be criticized for focusing exclusively on their people’s suffering, while ignoring more numerous & drastic that had befallen other peoples, I don’t see how holo deniers can hold their ground.

    Their position is simply untenable & ludicrous.

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    Their position is simply untenable & ludicrous.
     
    Really then why are revisionists harassed and thrown into prison. Why this raft of Holocaust denial laws in Europe over the last decade. You could have just laughed us off as street corner crackpots - why the loss of livelihood and prison sentences? You know why because you can't answer the hard technical questions the revisionists pose.

    About the numbers quoted in your post you should be a bit agnostic about it, I will give you a single example, in the Iraq war you had wildly different body counts the medical journal lancet gave a number of 1-1.5 million dead whereas the Iraqi govt. gave a body count of 150,000 the lancet journal used statistical methods accepted by contemporary demographics whereas the Iraqi govt. used the death certificates issued to next of Kin stating that without a death certificate nothing moved in Iraq. And you are talking about a televised war in the 21st century!! Imagine the chaos involved in attempting to give a bodycount of the Holocaust.
    , @Wally
    "Their position is simply untenable & ludicrous."

    Seriously? So then that's why you dodge my numerous posts with info. & links.

    Yet you have merely posted manufactured numbers for your beloved but impossible 'holocau$t' victims'.
    Those numbers are totally without proof. Completely faked, Zionist style.


    We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.
     
    Please tell us how the alleged, yet impossible, 'gas chambers' worked. We're waiting.

    - For a thorough demolition of the alleged Auschwitz gas chambers & alleged Auschwitz homicidal gassing process see analysis at:
    http://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=model&t=10798&sf=msgonly

    If you think you have what it takes then step up and debate. What are you afraid of?
    www.codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    , @j2
    If you take the best data, that is American Jewish Yearbooks before the war and after and make the corrections to the last of German and Austrian Jews who immigrated, and correct the figure for Romania, you get Reitlinger's number 4.5 million. If you notice to divide Europe to two parts, West including Western part of Poland that Germany occupied, and East, and then calculate, you get the unavoidable result that in Auschwitz could die maximum 400,000 (can be 60,000 quite well). As it is considerably smaller than 1 million, you see that there must be an error in the accepted figures. When you track the error, you find it and it is not in your calculation, it is in those books you refer to. Reitlinger's 4.5 million is correct, if the starting value for the Soviet Union (2.8 million in 1939) is correct, but this figure is highly uncertain. If you then count the Jewish population in the USA, adding all known immigration waves and using the (well estimated) birth rate of 1.4% yearly, you notice that there was 1 million immigration to the USA apparently from other countries than Eastern Europe, that is, first moving to England, Germany or Mexico and migrating from there in another quote. This means that the likely number of dead is 3.5 million. It is still very high. There was a genocide, but not the way and in the places as is told. You refer to books. I suggest you make your own calculation and verify these books. But, I do not deny Holocaust. It was a miracle of G-d. Despite the fact that mathematics shows what I wrote, I believe that G-d could have more Jews die than there was. By the way, 6 million Jews are not missing. It is either 4.5 million or 3.5 million depending on whether there was before war (1920-38) immigration of 1 additional million to the States or not. This I cannot say for sure, it looks like there was from the population figures of the USA Jewish population.
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  34. Anonymous[612] • Disclaimer says:

    Do you get bored writing the same column over and over?

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    I hope not. There is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come.

    Thanks to Giraldi and all the commenters here who want to see our government function on our behalf. Right now it's riddled with treason. Despite large majorities of both parties consistently identifying money as corrupting our politics, bribery became normalized in part so that Jewish politics could prosper. Now we no longer even expect our representative to pretend.
    , @jacques sheete

    Do you get bored writing the same column over and over?

     

    Boring?

    You don't know boring until you've been subjected to wailing 25/8 about "the" laughable 6 million for decades and maybe even more than a century through every venue imaginable and some not, and a "holocaust" memorial on nearly every block in the country.

    Boring?

    You'd think the "high IQ" ones of the world's only "chosen" super race could find something a little less boring than the continuous and mindless replay of the ludicrous, mendacious, hyperbolic and hysterical victim card.

    Bored?

    Get over it already.

    PS: Is someone forcing you to read his excellent columns?

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  35. The Zionist plans are all laid out in The Protocols of Zion and sadly their plans are being fulfilled as since 1913 with the installation of the Zionist owned FED and the IRS America was sold out to the Zionist bankers and thus the wars and destruction of the U.S. and the world began and continues today for Israel and the Zionist NWO.

    If anyone doubts that Zionist control America , just remember that Israel did 911 and killed 3000 Americans and got away with it.

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    ww2 - dead jews 6 million
    1940 jewish population of Germany 500,000
    1940 jewish population of Europe 2,000,000

    we're missing 3,500,000. but who's counting?

    The other day in the UK an old jewish broad, of some fame, said there is only 1 real prejudice in the world and, that's anti-Semitism. how greedy of the old c--t.
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  36. There are hundreds of mass grave sites throughout Europe

    Show me 10 mass graves like Katyn which were forensically investigated – you can’t. They found nothing in the famous Babbi Yar – nothing at all. These mass graves you speak off are nothing but tombstones and memorial placques stating that so many thousands were shot and buried here – but there’s no proof and the Rabbis in charge of these places will not allow any forensic investigation because that would be ‘dishonoring the dead’. To cover up this scandalous lack of evidence the hoaxers made up the story of Paul Blobbel the magic man incinerator who in a years time traveled to 1000s of site in an area which was roughly 1.5 square million kilometres and exhumed and burnt every corpse and ground all the bones. For someone who did this superhuman task very little is known about this magic man incinerator.

    Oh there is also the curious case of the dog that did not bark i.e. the Russians, 1.2 to 2 million Jews were supposed to have been shot in the Eastern Front and the Russians remained totally silent. They could have used these mass shootings as a propaganda coup but they did nothing. It’s impossible that they didn’t know it since they had tens of thousands of partisans behind German lines. Then the even more curious fact – the Russians were deeply embarrassed by the Germans over the Katyn mass graves so when they started driving the Germans back they methodically investigated the sites of the alleged shooting and were desperately looking for mass graves. They found nothing of any significance.

    You are on the wrong side of history talking out your arse.

    Your traditional holocaust story is dead mate, nothing can resurrect it which is why in a desperate attempt to preserve the story they throw people into prison who question it.

    Have you read revisionist literature? Read it and then come back. But I get the feeling that you’re an intellectually dishonest hack who will not read the other side of the story.

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    I've read and listened to David Irving before he was booted from my country and tried to follow the threads of other denier arguments. For every question raised there is a deafening thunder of answers and evidence refuting it.

    Get yourself along to the Yad Veshem Holocaust Memorial Center in Jerusalem. I guarantee your point of view will shift 180 degrees.

    Alternatively you could line up with the Hiroshima Bomb deniers and fry what's left of your brain's evidence-examining faculty following that rubbish.

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  37. JustJeff says:
    @Momus
    Why do you say the holocaust is a myth? I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

    The problem with the holocaust isn’t that it’s a myth, the problem is that it’s treated like a religious event and not a historical one. 70% of American jews believe remembering the holocaust is central to Jewish identity so it pretty much is a religion for secular Jews. We need to go back to treating it like a historical event and stop making it so emotional. There’s no reason why we should get more emotional over the holocauat versus any other genocide. It doesn’t make the Jews special and it doesn’t give them the right to oppress Palestinians and hijack American foreign policy.

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    Hitler was a left-wing Utopian.
    , @ChuckOrloski
    His Head Honor JustJeff wrote:
    "It (the Holocaust) doesn’t make the Jews special and it doesn’t give them the right to oppress Palestinians and hijack American foreign policy."

    Hi JustJeff,

    I totally agree with your judgement, above, however each smiling person depicted in this article's corresponding photograph does not. Like P. Giraldi said, "protecting Israel is their full time job," but the situation is actually much worse.

    I will explain.

    Except for indoctrinated & intimidated American, it's obvious to everyone worldwide that the only people who can commit war crimes & get off (unaccountably) "scot free" are Zionist Jews.

    Please, your Honor JustJeff, consider looking at the exemplary article & companion video, linked down below?

    With an English translation, at the Gaza border, you will hear an Israeli soldier (on a loudspeaker) address protesters who assembled for their weekly march on the Gaza border.

    Phew! Was not a ("fig leaf") electronic signal for Islamic prayer-hour at the fence.

    Untethered to any military oath designed to spare the lives of Palestinian civilians, the Israeli soldier-hero warned, "If you keep waving the stick, we will shoot!"

    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/05/video-waving-stick/

    Thanks very much for your timely comment, JustJeff!

    We must neither fear nor hesitate to cross the Holohoax-Line that Jewish Lobby-aligned ZUS legislator-censors are now busily drawing along state borders, for example South Carolina.
    , @jilles dykstra
    As is the Armenian genocide to the Armenian identity.
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  38. It’s not always a paying job. Don’t forget blackmail. That’s how we wound up with a teacup poodle for a watchdog when the time came to punish the greatest financial crime in history. Turns out NY DA Schnauzerman’s a big perv who has to hit girls to keep his little ritually-mutilated stiffie up. That’s how he clinched his crucial big job, with his unique credential: you can blackmail the crap out of him. We were downcast, but not surprised, to see his hilariously hammy legal ‘Lemme-at-em, lemme-at-em!’ act. Now we know exactly why Schnauzerman let Goldman Sachs off the hook. It wasn’t Mossad shekels that prompted his treason. It was Mossad pimps of girly punching bags, classic CIA cutouts. They took out Spitzer the same way first.

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  39. @Momus
    Why do you say the holocaust is a myth? I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

    It is an EXAGGERATION, full of specious claims.

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  40. @JustJeff
    The problem with the holocaust isn’t that it’s a myth, the problem is that it’s treated like a religious event and not a historical one. 70% of American jews believe remembering the holocaust is central to Jewish identity so it pretty much is a religion for secular Jews. We need to go back to treating it like a historical event and stop making it so emotional. There’s no reason why we should get more emotional over the holocauat versus any other genocide. It doesn’t make the Jews special and it doesn’t give them the right to oppress Palestinians and hijack American foreign policy.

    Hitler was a left-wing Utopian.

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    Yeah yeah and dems r da reel racists. At least put that high verbal iq to work and be original.
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  41. Momus says:
    @anarchyst
    American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets "foreign aid" in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship only reinforces "split loyalty"--NOT upholding the interests of the United States, and must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should not be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    The American Presidents Johnson and Nixon were satisfied with the Israeli explanation that they would not be the first to introduce nuclear weapons to the mid east. Successive administrations accept this declaration and are not interested in forcing them to join the IAEA.

    Fair enough too given the history of their persecution and the massive contributions of Jewish brainpower to America’s bomb project and many prior and subsequent, scientific, medical, legal and industrial efforts.

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    What say you on the deliberate Israeli act of war on the USS Liberty (GTR-5) on June 8, 1967, with the loss of 34 American sailors' lives?
    , @Hunsdon
    The rule of law is, you say, sort of optional then?
    , @Caruthers
    That some Jewish individuals did good things (scientific contributions, etc.) does not entitle other Jewish individuals to any benefits, any more than the bad acts of some Jewish individuals warrant punishing other Jewish individuals.

    No Jew deserves a reward because of the good acts of other Jews, any more than any Jew deserves punishment because of the bad acts of other Jews.

    All such notions of collective merit and guilt are racist and bigoted.
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  42. From MarketWatch.com:

    Iran-deal opponents’ dirt on Rhodes: President Trump appears likely to announce his decision to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal on Tuesday. Ahead of the announcement, the New York Times reports that evidence has surfaced that the agreement’s opponents engaged in an effort to dig up dirt on former Obama aide Benjamin Rhodes and his family that continued well after the Obama administration left office. Opponents of the nuclear deal with Iran have accused Rhodes for years of scheming to sell the agreement on false pretenses to the American people.

    The Times says a detailed report on Rhodes compiled by investigations firm Black Cube contains pictures of his Washington apartment, telephone numbers and email addresses of his family members, as well as unsubstantiated allegations of personal and ethical transgressions. It is unclear who hired Black Cube, the Times reported. The firm was founded by former intelligence analysts from the Israeli Defense Forces.

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    Ben Rhodes conduct was egregious but it pales in comparison with the almost treasonous capitulation Obama and Kerry inflicted on the US and the West. I would imagine knowing that Black Cube had looked him up for a potential date would be a bit unsettling.
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  43. You’ve got to congratulate the people of South Carolina on their record of wise decisions and national leadership: Secession, firing on Fort Sumter, Nikki Haley and friends v. free speech…..

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    Don't forget they keep reelecting Israel worshipper and chickenhawk Lindsey Graham.
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  44. @Bardon Kaldian
    Strange how many people are obsessing about Jewish victimhood during WWII. How can they, then, explain that way too many Jews in Europe disappeared? Vast swaths of their population in Poland, Ukraine, Romania, Belarus, Russia, Netherlands, Hungary,...- gone irreversibly.

    I don't know the exact figure, but most historians agree that number would be somewhere from 5 to 6 million.

    http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm

    Holocaust

    Extermination of the Jews: [make link]:

    Reitlinger, Gerald, The Final Solution (1953): between 4,194,200 and 4,851,200 (this number is accepted by Kinder, The Anchor Atlas of World History (1978))
    Brzezinski: 5,000,000
    Chirot: 5,100,000
    3,000,000 in death camps.
    1,300,000 massacred.
    800,000 by dis./maln. in ghettos
    David E. Stannard, “The Politics of Genocide Scholarship,” in Alan S. Rosenbaum, ed., Is the Holocaust Unique? Perspectives on Comparative Genocide (1996), p. 178. By one estimate, 2.4 million of the 5.1 million victims of the Holocaust died of disease in ghettos and concentration camps.
    Rummel: 5,291,000
    Grenville: 5-6M
    Davies, Europe A History (1998): avg. c. 5,571,300 (puts the minimum at 4,871,000 and the maximum at 6,271,500.)
    MEDIAN: ca. 5.6M
    Nuremberg indictment: 5,700,000 (accepted by Britannica)
    Gutman, Encyclopedia of the Holocaust (1990): 5,596,029 to 5,860,129
    P. Johnson: 5,800,000
    Wallechinsky: "nearly" 6,000,000
    Urlanis: 6M

    As for "who killed most", opinions are divided:

    http://necrometrics.com/tyrants.htm

    Question: Who was the Bloodiest Tyrant of the 20th Century?

    Answer: We don't know.

    ...
    1. Mao- 40M
    Hitler- 34M
    Stalin- 20M

    2. Hitler- 34M
    Stalin-20M
    Mao-10M


    3. Stalin -20M
    Hitler-15
    Mao-10M

    4. Hitler-34M
    Stalin-20M
    Mao-10M
    ..
    So, the answer to the question of "Who is roasting on the hottest fires in Hell?" is "Well, that depends..."

    As for general WWII victimology, there are too many variables:
    https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

    Research Starters: Worldwide Deaths in World War II
    ....................

    China 20,000,000
    Germany 6,600,000-8,800,000
    Soviet Union 24,000,000
    ..........

    So, while ethnic Jewish activists can be criticized for focusing exclusively on their people's suffering, while ignoring more numerous & drastic that had befallen other peoples, I don't see how holo deniers can hold their ground.

    Their position is simply untenable & ludicrous.

    Their position is simply untenable & ludicrous.

    Really then why are revisionists harassed and thrown into prison. Why this raft of Holocaust denial laws in Europe over the last decade. You could have just laughed us off as street corner crackpots – why the loss of livelihood and prison sentences? You know why because you can’t answer the hard technical questions the revisionists pose.

    About the numbers quoted in your post you should be a bit agnostic about it, I will give you a single example, in the Iraq war you had wildly different body counts the medical journal lancet gave a number of 1-1.5 million dead whereas the Iraqi govt. gave a body count of 150,000 the lancet journal used statistical methods accepted by contemporary demographics whereas the Iraqi govt. used the death certificates issued to next of Kin stating that without a death certificate nothing moved in Iraq. And you are talking about a televised war in the 21st century!! Imagine the chaos involved in attempting to give a bodycount of the Holocaust.

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    Really then why are revisionists harassed and thrown into prison. Why this raft of Holocaust denial laws in Europe over the last decade. You could have just laughed us off as street corner crackpots – why the loss of livelihood and prison sentences? You know why because you can’t answer the hard technical questions the revisionists pose.
     
    This is because European New Left has, in past few decades, expanded their power & has brought most Western European societies to the brink of suicidal lunacy. Ideological heirs to 1968 are running decadent & self-destructive societies.

    If these lands were healthy, holo denial crazies would be left free to blather whatever they want.
    , @El Dato
    Throwing weirdos into prison doesn't mean the weirdos are right, it just means the laws are wrong.

    I think Aristotle had something to say about this.
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  45. @jilles dykstra
    Arthur R. Butz, ´The hoax of the twentieth century, The case against the presumed extermination of European Jewry’, Costa Mesa CA, 1977, 1989

    That book, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, is sold by neither Amazon, nor Barnes and Noble or any other major bookstore and is illegal to own or purchase in many countries.

    Does that not act as a red flag to people about the veracity of the claims of Jews and their supporters about “the holocaust”? If what Butz had written was nonsense or demonstrably false it would serve as an example of how wrong holocaust revisionists are right?

    A lot of people here probably rightly consider themselves to be fairly well informed. It’s worth your time to watch this video, four hours in its entirety, which scientifically breaks down a lot of the claims made about what happened. It’s what made me start to seriously question what I’d been told.

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    I bought it through ABE books, no problem.
    It was mentioned by a German expert on concentration camps in one of his books.
    To this day I wonder why he mentioned it.
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  46. @JustJeff
    The problem with the holocaust isn’t that it’s a myth, the problem is that it’s treated like a religious event and not a historical one. 70% of American jews believe remembering the holocaust is central to Jewish identity so it pretty much is a religion for secular Jews. We need to go back to treating it like a historical event and stop making it so emotional. There’s no reason why we should get more emotional over the holocauat versus any other genocide. It doesn’t make the Jews special and it doesn’t give them the right to oppress Palestinians and hijack American foreign policy.

    His Head Honor JustJeff wrote:
    “It (the Holocaust) doesn’t make the Jews special and it doesn’t give them the right to oppress Palestinians and hijack American foreign policy.”

    Hi JustJeff,

    I totally agree with your judgement, above, however each smiling person depicted in this article’s corresponding photograph does not. Like P. Giraldi said, “protecting Israel is their full time job,” but the situation is actually much worse.

    I will explain.

    Except for indoctrinated & intimidated American, it’s obvious to everyone worldwide that the only people who can commit war crimes & get off (unaccountably) “scot free” are Zionist Jews.

    Please, your Honor JustJeff, consider looking at the exemplary article & companion video, linked down below?

    With an English translation, at the Gaza border, you will hear an Israeli soldier (on a loudspeaker) address protesters who assembled for their weekly march on the Gaza border.

    Phew! Was not a (“fig leaf”) electronic signal for Islamic prayer-hour at the fence.

    Untethered to any military oath designed to spare the lives of Palestinian civilians, the Israeli soldier-hero warned, “If you keep waving the stick, we will shoot!”

    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/05/video-waving-stick/

    Thanks very much for your timely comment, JustJeff!

    We must neither fear nor hesitate to cross the Holohoax-Line that Jewish Lobby-aligned ZUS legislator-censors are now busily drawing along state borders, for example South Carolina.

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  47. Wally says:
    @Brabantian
    75 years ago, people hid Jews to protect them from imprisonment and possible death by European-led jailers

    Now in 2018, people are hiding Europeans to protect them from imprisonment and possible death by Jewish-led jailers

    89-year-old Ursula Haverbeck-Wetzel is right now being hunted by German police at the behest of Jewish groups, because she did not show up at prison a few days ago, to serve a two-year-jail sentence for questioning the official narrative of the Jewish killings in World War II ... It is recognised by Jews and others that at her age, the long jailing may kill her

    The 'International Auschwitz Committee' says German police should use 'high pressure' to find this elderly woman and imprison her, even tho it may kill her

    And yet Jews who speak like this claim they do not understand why people develop antipathy to Jews ... It is in fact the International Auschwitz Committee which is 'inciting anti-semitism', as they inspire Germans to hide elderly people from Jews 'like Anne Frank was hidden from Germans'

    However much Ursula Haverbeck might be in error in her historical opinions, this is appalling and shocking treatment of a grandmotherly woman soon to be 90 years of age ... sending her very possibly to death for her ideas regarding an era to which she is a living personal witness (Haverbeck was born in 1928, and will turn age 90 this 8 November)

    This reminds of the case of a World War II Jewish witness, a rabbi's son, who was with the Russian advance troops who liberated places like Auschwitz, Joseph Ginzburg - Joseph G Burg, direct interrogator of Auschwitz and other camp survivors ... The fiercely anti-Nazi and very Jewish Burg, said the Holocaust was an exaggeration, a fraud fabricated by Zionists, he wrote books on this, & had many of those books burned by the modern West German government ... tho the old Bonn regime never had the stomach to jail rabbi's son Joseph Ginzburg (1908-90), despite his holocaust denial

    Do tell us exactly how Haverbeck is “in error”. We wait.

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1


    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau

    http://www.codoh.com

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  48. JustJeff says:
    @ISmellBagels
    Hitler was a left-wing Utopian.

    Yeah yeah and dems r da reel racists. At least put that high verbal iq to work and be original.

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  49. Wally says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    Strange how many people are obsessing about Jewish victimhood during WWII. How can they, then, explain that way too many Jews in Europe disappeared? Vast swaths of their population in Poland, Ukraine, Romania, Belarus, Russia, Netherlands, Hungary,...- gone irreversibly.

    I don't know the exact figure, but most historians agree that number would be somewhere from 5 to 6 million.

    http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm

    Holocaust

    Extermination of the Jews: [make link]:

    Reitlinger, Gerald, The Final Solution (1953): between 4,194,200 and 4,851,200 (this number is accepted by Kinder, The Anchor Atlas of World History (1978))
    Brzezinski: 5,000,000
    Chirot: 5,100,000
    3,000,000 in death camps.
    1,300,000 massacred.
    800,000 by dis./maln. in ghettos
    David E. Stannard, “The Politics of Genocide Scholarship,” in Alan S. Rosenbaum, ed., Is the Holocaust Unique? Perspectives on Comparative Genocide (1996), p. 178. By one estimate, 2.4 million of the 5.1 million victims of the Holocaust died of disease in ghettos and concentration camps.
    Rummel: 5,291,000
    Grenville: 5-6M
    Davies, Europe A History (1998): avg. c. 5,571,300 (puts the minimum at 4,871,000 and the maximum at 6,271,500.)
    MEDIAN: ca. 5.6M
    Nuremberg indictment: 5,700,000 (accepted by Britannica)
    Gutman, Encyclopedia of the Holocaust (1990): 5,596,029 to 5,860,129
    P. Johnson: 5,800,000
    Wallechinsky: "nearly" 6,000,000
    Urlanis: 6M

    As for "who killed most", opinions are divided:

    http://necrometrics.com/tyrants.htm

    Question: Who was the Bloodiest Tyrant of the 20th Century?

    Answer: We don't know.

    ...
    1. Mao- 40M
    Hitler- 34M
    Stalin- 20M

    2. Hitler- 34M
    Stalin-20M
    Mao-10M


    3. Stalin -20M
    Hitler-15
    Mao-10M

    4. Hitler-34M
    Stalin-20M
    Mao-10M
    ..
    So, the answer to the question of "Who is roasting on the hottest fires in Hell?" is "Well, that depends..."

    As for general WWII victimology, there are too many variables:
    https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

    Research Starters: Worldwide Deaths in World War II
    ....................

    China 20,000,000
    Germany 6,600,000-8,800,000
    Soviet Union 24,000,000
    ..........

    So, while ethnic Jewish activists can be criticized for focusing exclusively on their people's suffering, while ignoring more numerous & drastic that had befallen other peoples, I don't see how holo deniers can hold their ground.

    Their position is simply untenable & ludicrous.

    “Their position is simply untenable & ludicrous.”

    Seriously? So then that’s why you dodge my numerous posts with info. & links.

    Yet you have merely posted manufactured numbers for your beloved but impossible ‘holocau$t’ victims’.
    Those numbers are totally without proof. Completely faked, Zionist style.

    We’re talking about an alleged ’6M Jews & 5M others’ … 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    Please tell us how the alleged, yet impossible, ‘gas chambers’ worked. We’re waiting.

    - For a thorough demolition of the alleged Auschwitz gas chambers & alleged Auschwitz homicidal gassing process see analysis at:

    http://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=model&t=10798&sf=msgonly

    If you think you have what it takes then step up and debate. What are you afraid of?
    http://www.codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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    What you wrote is bullshit. Codoh is bullshit. You haven't presented single rational & tenable argument.

    And, no serious historian talks about "6 M and 5 M others". Hitler's victims, depending on methodology, are bracketed between 15 million and 35 million.

    Nothing more than irresponsible blabber. The entire holo denial business is just a bunch of crackpots running around & screaming nonsense.
    , @Meimou
    Say it ain't so Wally.

    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2010/02/codoh-forum-that-moderated-itself-to.html?m=1
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  50. Them Guys says:
    @anarchyst
    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent Zionists formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the “transfer” of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Nothing about extermination.

    Official International Red Cross figures for all camp “deaths” total around 731,000–NOT “6 million”. In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war…

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not “add up”…

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the “yellow Star of David” armband so that they could be easily identified.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out . . .

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE “KANGAROO COURTS” THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. A question for you “holocaust ™” promoters–why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a “cash cow” that “keeps on giving”. . . “there’s NO business like “SHOAH business”.
    Jewish complicity in this event is carefully “covered up”.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question “official” jewish “holocaust” orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the “official” jewish “holocaust” story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to “all things holocaust”. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment. . .

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the “chosen”) to engineer the jewish “holocaust”, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish “holocaust” was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many “holocausts” of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish “holocaust” is the only one that counts . . .

    Look at the “commercialization of the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish “holocaust ™” “survivors”, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean “camp” numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and “disease”–”holocaust ™ “transference syndrome". You see, children and grandchildren of jewish “holocaust ™” survivors are infected with this “disease” and should also be considered “holocaust ™” survivors, eligible for “holocaust ™” reparations.

    Since the jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews’ declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish “homeland for the last two-hundred years while predicting a “holocaust ™” of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures).

    Regarding that “holocaust ™” “showplace” Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called “gas chambers”. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called “gassing” took place”. There is a “gas chamber” chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the “operators” of these supposed “gas chambers”. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these “camps”.

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported “gas chambers”, had them tested and published his results. The absence of Prussian blue (ferricyanide) in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the “gas chambers” did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the “chimney” for the supposed “gas chamber” does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to “create” the “death camps” for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were “liberated” by the “allies”, the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be “liberated” by the Russian “allies”.

    I urge those “holocaust ™” believers to check these things out for yourselves–IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find…

    Great info packed Post!!….Also, these hoax believers like momus et al, do NOT really want a real proof and documented factual answer to their many question’s like as example: “But but!! tell me why you think it isn’t real or call it a Hoax” etc etc……..

    It simply is a knee jerk programed brainwashed response on their part due to their unexplainable deep desire to “Arise!! All you Defenders of all issues jewish! and complain, question, Bash and when ALL else Fails……Call em all an Antisemitenaziwhowantstokillsixmillion MORE!”

    Then….They have a huge mixed inner deep seated feeling, all emotional driven,of really having Done something really good for jews.

    And Always….ALWAYS!…The exact same mental programing effect of never willing to reply with sound factual answers, and never ever ever ever being willing to actually READ/research Any of tons of other’s well provided, too many to count, Books-Websites-RABBIS & Various highly rated jewish historians etc that provide those who are wide awake to this mass hoax with Most of the Revisionist materials!…….They will reject to research any of it, and resort to vile name calls, and if you provide any jewish or rabbi sourced proof….Their response will likely be..”Well that rabbi or jewish writer is just a Self-Hater-jew!!!”

    OyVeh!…..Whats a good Bapduh apostate jewdeochristowhacko schofield bible believer to do eh?

    Answer: Just keep repeating over and over that OT genesis verse of “Gen: 12 vs 3″ And fully Mis-interpret it so that any word like “Seed” or “Israel” always means the word “jew or jewish”!

    Never mind that one Must read thru almost…500-Pages…Yes 500! Before the very word of “jew” can be found in the bible!….From page One to page, almost, page 500 Before he word jew appears!

    Just wait for the fireworks replies once you alert them to this Fact!

    Or ask: “So did Abram (later called Abraham) somehow Forget to tell us all he was a jew or what?

    And same for moses, Jacob and many more OT persons….NONE remembered to mention how they was a jew….Hmmmmm….

    And Disclaimer in advance:…yes yes I am aware that poster who asked why call it a hoax, then when all else fails began to call folks nice enough to answer he/she, vile names like arse…..Never to my knowledge stated anything about the bible etc…

    I just wanted to Include that part incase we do see another apostate schofield whacko Israel firster try to use that OT verse again….It is an abject 100% Fail as any “bless Israel state or bless jews” proof period….And the NT Paul writer in Galations chapters is where they can locate Truth which actually Names that OT genesis verse so relied upon(wrongly) and fully explains why and how they are so totally wrong….NOwheres biblically states any such thing of “Bless the jews”.

    Indeed!…Those very First and still today foremost Antichrists and Anti-Christians self chozen self worshippers are somehow “special” due to Cyrus Schofield’s interpretations eh?

    Ok so who Was cyrus schofield?…Just a Failed Husband/Father/Politition/Drunk/Gambler/Dis-Bared Felonious convicted Lawyer and Pal of a grandkid of Rothschild jew bankster clan!…Failed at everything, except for his great grand Dupeing bible apostacy that has more bad influence today than even AIPAC can muster in congress and the white house and state dept and msm.

    Anybody asking or demanding any proof etc that then refuses to ever LOOK at or READ/Research given proofs and usually given by a fuckin Boatload, is not seeking real answers but only “performing” as Trained/Brainwashed by jewry and usually also by apostate falsehood preachermen to do period….

    One final statement question for ALL such foolish defenders and supporters of all things jewry.

    Question: “If” as those who base it mostly on biblical verses as mentioned above, believe in a so called “God wont bless America or Us unless We first bless jewry/Israel state”?

    TELL Us when and where will such great God’s blessings happen in or to us and usa?

    Because about the very same time frame of 1950-60 era when such bless jews=get gods blessings began to get promoted…….And right when Israel became a state nation per UN mandates.

    All Observant folks in usa and elsewhere can see for Real is….That since falsehoods of bless jewry started….America has gone ALL Down Hill into a full Blown CURSED Nation!

    And incase the foolish ones are really behind in factual truths on these cursed issues?

    Here I will assist you with just the Two Main major curses upon usa and Us non jews.

    #1=Jewry…#2 curse= Hoards of non white invaders brought Here by Mainly jewish slavers! And Later via Open borders Divirsity crap swindle scams….I’d Bet if most awake folk had to pick just One of the two main curses….to boot out…They’d no doubt begin a boot out with jewry first.

    Like Car Maker Genius Henry Ford’s 1922 Book Title state’s it…

    “International Jewry…..The World’s Foremost Problem”…..Indeed Mr. Ford.

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    Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant, to which I reply, “God is not a real estate agent”.
    Jews rejected the covenant when they murdered Jesus Christ. Their covenant with God was then “null and void”.
    It is the flawed Schofield translation of the Bible that elevated jews to the status of Christianity’s “elder brothers”, which was then reinforced by the Catholic (flawed) “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” in the 1960s.
    I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage.
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    The only common thread between Christianity and judaism is the Ten Commandments–nothing more.
    The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.
    Christianity welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status–not true of judaism.
    Judaism is an insular belief system that shuns outsiders, prohibits proselytization, and promotes a form of supremacy, relegating all gentiles (non-jews) to the status of livestock–subhumans with souls, only to be used for the advancement and benefit of jews.
    Jews DID murder Jesus Christ. Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder. As always is the case, the jews got others, the Romans to do their dirty work for them–the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. How can Christians have the same values as the Jews; the very people who denounced and betrayed the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, and call for his execution (by others, of course, that is the Jewish way). It makes absolutely no sense at all. Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.
    It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel’s wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.
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  51. anarchyst says:

    Criminalizing TRUTH is the main method that holocaust ™ promoters use to keep it alive. Add to that, the holocaust ™ museums located throughout the world which “keep the dream (and shekels flowing) alive. Did you know that “tribal” jewish psychiatrists are now claiming that the children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren of holocaust ™ survivors are all suffering from holocaust ™ “transference syndrome”, thereby declaring future generations to be holocaust ™ survivors, eligible for “reparations”. If this takes hold, it will never end for the one only holocaust ™ throughout history. Victims of truly horrific jewish-created communist holocausts need not apply.

    There is a lot more to the jewish holocaust ™ as the aim of the zionists was to get jews to abandon their comfortable lives in Europe to emigrate to what was then known as Palestine. In fact, there were agreements between the German government and zionists to effect such “transfers”. As most jews considered themselves to be Germans first, it was an extremely “hard sell”. The genius of the zionist “plan” wss to marginalize German jews, thereby “encouraging” them to emigrate. A few “dirty secrets” that zionists do not want exposed is that it was zionists who made the “suggestion” to require jews to wear an armband specifying their ethnicity, as well as forcibly shipping jews to labor camps. An inconvenient fact was that many jews served in the German military of the time…

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  52. Them Guys says:
    @Momus
    There are hundreds of mass grave sites throughout Europe where the Jewish victims of the Nazis have been identified by name. You are on the wrong side of history talking out your arse.

    In 1999 Two Archeology experts took the Same type Ground Penetrating Radar machinery as used on the TV show Ice Road Truckers, used to check via xray type computer assisted graphs the Depth of Ice to see if road is Safe to drive upon……Same exact machinery taken to 1/2 Dozen or so “Camps” to search for buried bodies and or ash of burned after exumed millions bodies as claimed by many jews.

    They located ZERO bodies-Bones-Ash’s-Teeth fragments etc. ZERO-NONE!

    And in year 2000 French and other newspapers did long articles on this mission to locate.

    ZERO=NONE!

    What Do You Not as Yet…Get eh?

    oh I forgot you have refused to read or research ANY provided info or websites or books and rather keep asking questions or “educating” all the wide awake smart folks here with repetitive falsehoods that You provide zero proof of….OyVeh….

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    Maybe they looked in the wrong places or the radar gear had been broken by the truckers?
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  53. @Thomm
    It is a privilege to see a sophisticated Confuse and Conquer Jew like Ron Unz singlehandedly tie up hundreds if not thousands of White Trashionalists at once.

    Step 1 : Make a website that WNs use (since they can never build anything on their own). Let any and all anti-Semitic slurs stand on the website to make WNs complacent and even keyboard-courageous.
    Step 2 : Recruit the 2-3 intelligent authors that WNs read (Sailer, Derbyshire, etc.) who happen to bad at making money, so that they write for very little renumeration.
    Step 3 : After a few years, start pushing for normalization of Hispanics (even if illegal; especially if illegal).
    Step 4 : Deploy someone like Fred Reed to generate even more confusion, and then someone like Philip Giraldi to get the anti-Israel wing gathered in one place.

    It works…and it is a lesson in asymmetrical attrition warfare by a sophisticated Confuse and Conquer Jew.

    Ron Unz has said about 95% of this site disputes the fact that the real division is black vs non-black. I am among the 5% that agree with him (although I am more conservative than him, since I think there should be only skilled, legal immigration, not unskilled and certainly never illegal).

    Now, here is the thing. Those who talk about Auschwitz, lampshades, and soap never get moderated here, but those who agree with Ron Unz do. He will even get angry with those who agree with him too vocally, even as any and all anti-Israel content is fully welcome.

    Why?

    It is because he thinks it will expose his game of 4D chess from the perception of a 70-IQ WN. But I guarantee that it cannot, since the typical White Trashionalist is far below the IQ threshold where they can observe the many pieces in motion. I can describe Ron’s plan in full detail (and I fully support it), without any risk of the WNs figuring anything out (much less leaving this site).

    I am strongly in favor of what Ron Unz is doing.

    Someone’s more than a little triggered. In fact, pretty much any time I see one of your posts, you seem to be barely able to hide your unimaginative racist rhetoric behind that thin veil of holier than thou art pretentiousness you’re always trying to beat whites over the head with around here instead of making an actual, cogent argument against white nationalism. Ever.

    Seriously, use the term ‘white trashionalist’ more. Maybe throw in an ‘AmeriKKKa’ while you’re at it, for good measure. Your credibility is surging with each usage, after all. Confirming to the average reader here that you are definitely intelligent, completely above racism and falling for that racial division narrative. And under no circumstances are you just a petty racist with a chip on his shoulder and no real criticisms to make beyond the usual, par for the course ad hominem rhetoric one can find in the comments at WaPo.

    In one breath you assert that you are a part of the “5% that disputes the white/black division narrative”, and then with practically every other word in your entire comment, you go on sowing the very seeds of division you just declared your opposition to by ridiculing whites with assertions that they…. get this….. have an IQ in the range of the average black person on this planet… It’s comical, no?

    The irony is palpable. Though I am willing to bet it’s utterly lost on a genius like you.

    Thanks for coming out.

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    Yawn..... you have completely failed to understand even the most basic points I have made.

    I am extremely pro-white. Yet, I have simultaneously brought the spotlight to the unusually high variance within whites, and how the bottom 20% comprises a group that lags the better 80% by so much as to be a separate, defective subrace.

    This defective subrace is where the genetic waste matter collects. The reason the rest of us whites improve at a faster rate than other races is because we have evolved to efficiently remove the genetic waste matter into individual carriers.

    The men of this group become WN wiggers like you. The women of this group become the fat bluehaired feminists.


    In one breath you assert that you are a part of the “5% that disputes the white/black division narrative”
     
    False. Your reading comprehension is terrible. My point (which is the same as Ron Unz's point), is that all non-blacks get along fine, and that blacks are the problem. Thanks for proving that you, like all WNs, have a negro-IQ.

    ridiculing whites with assertions that they…. get this….. have an IQ in the range of the average black person on this planet…
     
    I have repeatedly said that the top 80% of whites have an average IQ of 105. Instead, it is wiggers like you who have IQs of 70 or so. I am keen on purging the waste matter that you represent from the pool so that you stop tainting the rest of us, but mother nature is doing that already.

    Sux to be you.

    Heh heh heh heh

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  54. Moi says:
    @MarkinLA
    OT but since it seems Israel first stooge Insane McCain is finally going to meet Satan.

    What I want to know is, has anybody announced how they intend to handle all the people who want to piss on his grave? Will there be a lottery, will there be those "take a number" machines, will it be first come first served or will there be some kind of contest, like writing an essay?

    He’s asked that a Marine band play “Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Eye-ran) at his funeral.

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  55. anarchyst says:
    @Them Guys
    Great info packed Post!!....Also, these hoax believers like momus et al, do NOT really want a real proof and documented factual answer to their many question's like as example: "But but!! tell me why you think it isn't real or call it a Hoax" etc etc........

    It simply is a knee jerk programed brainwashed response on their part due to their unexplainable deep desire to "Arise!! All you Defenders of all issues jewish! and complain, question, Bash and when ALL else Fails......Call em all an Antisemitenaziwhowantstokillsixmillion MORE!"

    Then....They have a huge mixed inner deep seated feeling, all emotional driven,of really having Done something really good for jews.

    And Always....ALWAYS!...The exact same mental programing effect of never willing to reply with sound factual answers, and never ever ever ever being willing to actually READ/research Any of tons of other's well provided, too many to count, Books-Websites-RABBIS & Various highly rated jewish historians etc that provide those who are wide awake to this mass hoax with Most of the Revisionist materials!.......They will reject to research any of it, and resort to vile name calls, and if you provide any jewish or rabbi sourced proof....Their response will likely be.."Well that rabbi or jewish writer is just a Self-Hater-jew!!!"

    OyVeh!.....Whats a good Bapduh apostate jewdeochristowhacko schofield bible believer to do eh?

    Answer: Just keep repeating over and over that OT genesis verse of "Gen: 12 vs 3" And fully Mis-interpret it so that any word like "Seed" or "Israel" always means the word "jew or jewish"!

    Never mind that one Must read thru almost...500-Pages...Yes 500! Before the very word of "jew" can be found in the bible!....From page One to page, almost, page 500 Before he word jew appears!

    Just wait for the fireworks replies once you alert them to this Fact!

    Or ask: "So did Abram (later called Abraham) somehow Forget to tell us all he was a jew or what?

    And same for moses, Jacob and many more OT persons....NONE remembered to mention how they was a jew....Hmmmmm....

    And Disclaimer in advance:...yes yes I am aware that poster who asked why call it a hoax, then when all else fails began to call folks nice enough to answer he/she, vile names like arse.....Never to my knowledge stated anything about the bible etc...

    I just wanted to Include that part incase we do see another apostate schofield whacko Israel firster try to use that OT verse again....It is an abject 100% Fail as any "bless Israel state or bless jews" proof period....And the NT Paul writer in Galations chapters is where they can locate Truth which actually Names that OT genesis verse so relied upon(wrongly) and fully explains why and how they are so totally wrong....NOwheres biblically states any such thing of "Bless the jews".

    Indeed!...Those very First and still today foremost Antichrists and Anti-Christians self chozen self worshippers are somehow "special" due to Cyrus Schofield's interpretations eh?

    Ok so who Was cyrus schofield?...Just a Failed Husband/Father/Politition/Drunk/Gambler/Dis-Bared Felonious convicted Lawyer and Pal of a grandkid of Rothschild jew bankster clan!...Failed at everything, except for his great grand Dupeing bible apostacy that has more bad influence today than even AIPAC can muster in congress and the white house and state dept and msm.

    Anybody asking or demanding any proof etc that then refuses to ever LOOK at or READ/Research given proofs and usually given by a fuckin Boatload, is not seeking real answers but only "performing" as Trained/Brainwashed by jewry and usually also by apostate falsehood preachermen to do period....

    One final statement question for ALL such foolish defenders and supporters of all things jewry.

    Question: "If" as those who base it mostly on biblical verses as mentioned above, believe in a so called "God wont bless America or Us unless We first bless jewry/Israel state"?

    TELL Us when and where will such great God's blessings happen in or to us and usa?

    Because about the very same time frame of 1950-60 era when such bless jews=get gods blessings began to get promoted.......And right when Israel became a state nation per UN mandates.

    All Observant folks in usa and elsewhere can see for Real is....That since falsehoods of bless jewry started....America has gone ALL Down Hill into a full Blown CURSED Nation!

    And incase the foolish ones are really behind in factual truths on these cursed issues?

    Here I will assist you with just the Two Main major curses upon usa and Us non jews.

    #1=Jewry...#2 curse= Hoards of non white invaders brought Here by Mainly jewish slavers! And Later via Open borders Divirsity crap swindle scams....I'd Bet if most awake folk had to pick just One of the two main curses....to boot out...They'd no doubt begin a boot out with jewry first.

    Like Car Maker Genius Henry Ford's 1922 Book Title state's it...

    "International Jewry.....The World's Foremost Problem".....Indeed Mr. Ford.

    Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant, to which I reply, “God is not a real estate agent”.
    Jews rejected the covenant when they murdered Jesus Christ. Their covenant with God was then “null and void”.
    It is the flawed Schofield translation of the Bible that elevated jews to the status of Christianity’s “elder brothers”, which was then reinforced by the Catholic (flawed) “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” in the 1960s.
    I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage.
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    The only common thread between Christianity and judaism is the Ten Commandments–nothing more.
    The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.
    Christianity welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status–not true of judaism.
    Judaism is an insular belief system that shuns outsiders, prohibits proselytization, and promotes a form of supremacy, relegating all gentiles (non-jews) to the status of livestock–subhumans with souls, only to be used for the advancement and benefit of jews.
    Jews DID murder Jesus Christ. Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder. As always is the case, the jews got others, the Romans to do their dirty work for them–the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. How can Christians have the same values as the Jews; the very people who denounced and betrayed the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, and call for his execution (by others, of course, that is the Jewish way). It makes absolutely no sense at all. Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.
    It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel’s wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.

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    "Elder brothers."

    No kidding. Why not the Sadducees instead? More or less Judasim is founded from the Pharisee religion, essentially found in the Mishnah contemporary with the New Testament. Both lay claim to the same "legitimate" root. One went spiritual , NT and libertarian and the other when more literal and authoritarian.

    May as well consider Apocrypha too then.

    Torah Jews believe both are full of crap. Everyone left the Samaritans out to dry and they were persecuted as schismatics by all. Guess than means they are wrong since there are few who remain.

    I suppose the Essene was the one out of the three that was proven wrong the most since the rebellion did not look like it was divine providence when they starved inside Jerusalem.
    , @Them Guys
    Yes I last year read an article with excerpts direct from the two jewish lezbo "professors" that invented this new Myth aka new scam swindle promotion and they stated that todays small 4-5 yr old jewy kiddies being reported to awaken from a sound sleep many night's, and parents are horrified to learn from child that. Oy Vehy! Little 4-5 yr old shlomo has had another vivid dream nightmare of being forced into Gas chamber by evil Nazis and gassed to death!!......This the two fraudulent professor lezbo jews claim as..."Newly discovered...wait for it!....Memory-Genes!!!!!! and that ONLY jew kids inherit such memory genes due to the facts that....Jews are special, and Chozens and have much higher IQ's so that all combines to create "jewish Only memory genes".

    Of Course this is the main reason grandkids and great grandkids of not only actual camper-jews from wwii era, deserve reperations $$$$ Cashola fom Germany....But these two "Expert Psycho Bablers insist also that jew kiddies inherit memory genes from Other Unrealated jews that were wwii camp dead and camp survivors the kids never ever met or knew of nor heard of!!!

    Read it again folks!...Jew kids now inherit memory genes, from old dead jews UNrelated genitically and jews the kids never heard of etc!

    When asked to explain How its remotely possible?...Basically the two frauds dodged it and said something like..."Well due to Us jews is so special and gods chozens it is likely a Miracle from god that such memory gene inheritences ONLY apply to jews.."

    Just zero end to jew invented methods of scams eh.

    Now as to some more bible and jewish falsehoods...

    Virtually Every or close to every of todays pastors of the aprox 300,000 usa protestant et al pastors, preach and teach what 99.9% of jewry claims.

    That the wailers Wall usa congress and usa prez as well as jew males and rabbis wear a jew cap and Bang their Head against that wall...as being the last only remains of the jew 2nd Temple etc..

    Is 100% Total Falsehood since that Wailers Wall is all that remains of the Orig. Roman Fort Wall erected to protect Roman soldiers and citizens in Jerusalem from vicious riotous murdering violence jews kept doing to romans, back in and prior to christs days.

    That Roman Fort was called Fortress Antonias (or close to that).

    And Ironic how the same apostate preachers who teach it same as jews claim as all that's left standing of 2nd temple etc....Also teach that Jesus' Prophecy of warning jews there that EVERY stone in/of 2nd temple would be wrecked ruined and "Not a single stone be left standing Upon another stone once wrecked"

    The preachers All agree fully that Christ prophecy Was fulfilled as stated in 70 A.D.

    Ok so How is it that still standing Wall jews worship and pray to is remains of that temple if Christ was correct?

    Them jews and rabbis Pray to an Old Roman Fort Wall!...that has ZERO to do with any 2nd temple period...Just one more fraud claim to convince worlds goys to worship jewry and Israel by them self chozen wall/$$$/self-worshipers eh.

    What do foolish royally duped Christians and non Christians not as Yet Get?

    I feel like that Laughing Mexican and I aint even Mexican!
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  56. anarchyst says:
    @Momus
    The American Presidents Johnson and Nixon were satisfied with the Israeli explanation that they would not be the first to introduce nuclear weapons to the mid east. Successive administrations accept this declaration and are not interested in forcing them to join the IAEA.

    Fair enough too given the history of their persecution and the massive contributions of Jewish brainpower to America's bomb project and many prior and subsequent, scientific, medical, legal and industrial efforts.

    What say you on the deliberate Israeli act of war on the USS Liberty (GTR-5) on June 8, 1967, with the loss of 34 American sailors’ lives?

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    That the Israelis were not in a position to fuck around?

    They would also shoot down any of their own pilots who appeared to be going to overfly Dimona.
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  57. c matt says:
    @Brabantian
    75 years ago, people hid Jews to protect them from imprisonment and possible death by European-led jailers

    Now in 2018, people are hiding Europeans to protect them from imprisonment and possible death by Jewish-led jailers

    89-year-old Ursula Haverbeck-Wetzel is right now being hunted by German police at the behest of Jewish groups, because she did not show up at prison a few days ago, to serve a two-year-jail sentence for questioning the official narrative of the Jewish killings in World War II ... It is recognised by Jews and others that at her age, the long jailing may kill her

    The 'International Auschwitz Committee' says German police should use 'high pressure' to find this elderly woman and imprison her, even tho it may kill her

    And yet Jews who speak like this claim they do not understand why people develop antipathy to Jews ... It is in fact the International Auschwitz Committee which is 'inciting anti-semitism', as they inspire Germans to hide elderly people from Jews 'like Anne Frank was hidden from Germans'

    However much Ursula Haverbeck might be in error in her historical opinions, this is appalling and shocking treatment of a grandmotherly woman soon to be 90 years of age ... sending her very possibly to death for her ideas regarding an era to which she is a living personal witness (Haverbeck was born in 1928, and will turn age 90 this 8 November)

    This reminds of the case of a World War II Jewish witness, a rabbi's son, who was with the Russian advance troops who liberated places like Auschwitz, Joseph Ginzburg - Joseph G Burg, direct interrogator of Auschwitz and other camp survivors ... The fiercely anti-Nazi and very Jewish Burg, said the Holocaust was an exaggeration, a fraud fabricated by Zionists, he wrote books on this, & had many of those books burned by the modern West German government ... tho the old Bonn regime never had the stomach to jail rabbi's son Joseph Ginzburg (1908-90), despite his holocaust denial

    Hey, ‘International Auschwitz Committee,’ if you are looking for Ursula Haverbeck-Wetzel , she is at Buckingham Palace posing as Queen Elizabeth II. Go get ‘er.

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  58. Thomm says:
    @RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965
    Someone's more than a little triggered. In fact, pretty much any time I see one of your posts, you seem to be barely able to hide your unimaginative racist rhetoric behind that thin veil of holier than thou art pretentiousness you're always trying to beat whites over the head with around here instead of making an actual, cogent argument against white nationalism. Ever.

    Seriously, use the term 'white trashionalist' more. Maybe throw in an 'AmeriKKKa' while you're at it, for good measure. Your credibility is surging with each usage, after all. Confirming to the average reader here that you are definitely intelligent, completely above racism and falling for that racial division narrative. And under no circumstances are you just a petty racist with a chip on his shoulder and no real criticisms to make beyond the usual, par for the course ad hominem rhetoric one can find in the comments at WaPo.

    In one breath you assert that you are a part of the "5% that disputes the white/black division narrative", and then with practically every other word in your entire comment, you go on sowing the very seeds of division you just declared your opposition to by ridiculing whites with assertions that they.... get this..... have an IQ in the range of the average black person on this planet... It's comical, no?

    The irony is palpable. Though I am willing to bet it's utterly lost on a genius like you.

    Thanks for coming out.

    Yawn….. you have completely failed to understand even the most basic points I have made.

    I am extremely pro-white. Yet, I have simultaneously brought the spotlight to the unusually high variance within whites, and how the bottom 20% comprises a group that lags the better 80% by so much as to be a separate, defective subrace.

    This defective subrace is where the genetic waste matter collects. The reason the rest of us whites improve at a faster rate than other races is because we have evolved to efficiently remove the genetic waste matter into individual carriers.

    The men of this group become WN wiggers like you. The women of this group become the fat bluehaired feminists.

    In one breath you assert that you are a part of the “5% that disputes the white/black division narrative”

    False. Your reading comprehension is terrible. My point (which is the same as Ron Unz’s point), is that all non-blacks get along fine, and that blacks are the problem. Thanks for proving that you, like all WNs, have a negro-IQ.

    ridiculing whites with assertions that they…. get this….. have an IQ in the range of the average black person on this planet…

    I have repeatedly said that the top 80% of whites have an average IQ of 105. Instead, it is wiggers like you who have IQs of 70 or so. I am keen on purging the waste matter that you represent from the pool so that you stop tainting the rest of us, but mother nature is doing that already.

    Sux to be you.

    Heh heh heh heh

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  59. nickels says:
    @Momus
    Why do you say the holocaust is a myth? I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

    Precisely.
    It is meant to be overwhelming , to overwhelm your reason and propagandize you to believe in a big tub of dung.

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  60. nickels says:

    The conditions for rising up against the unconstitutional seizure of the American state have long been in place, since at least the Brown vs. Board decision to ignore democracy, ignore the constitution and start legislating from the bench.

    Since then the march of tyranny has only accelerated, to rather unbelievable lengths.

    Unfortunately the moral backbone to do anything about it does not exist.

    People want their ‘freedoms’ to degenerate, destructive behaviors. So they have traded their spines and traded their dignity for them.

    The moral force is more than just ‘acting good’ or going to Sunday school. As Clausewitz discusses, it is the central piece in any strategy of resistance or action. It is a common language that people can use to speak against oppression. It is the ability to count on your fellow man to be as enraged as yourself against injustice.

    Time is running out.

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  61. gwynedd1 says:
    @Momus
    Why do you say the holocaust is a myth? I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

    Overwhelming evidence of what?

    Few deny that something happened to the Jews. What exactly that was is entirely another matter.

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    Overwhelming evidence for the holocaust. For every denier there are a thousand witnesses.
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  62. MacNucc11 says:

    I would like to see a posting of the companies on the boycott list before it is impossible to locate.

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  63. @Wally
    "Their position is simply untenable & ludicrous."

    Seriously? So then that's why you dodge my numerous posts with info. & links.

    Yet you have merely posted manufactured numbers for your beloved but impossible 'holocau$t' victims'.
    Those numbers are totally without proof. Completely faked, Zionist style.


    We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.
     
    Please tell us how the alleged, yet impossible, 'gas chambers' worked. We're waiting.

    - For a thorough demolition of the alleged Auschwitz gas chambers & alleged Auschwitz homicidal gassing process see analysis at:
    http://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=model&t=10798&sf=msgonly

    If you think you have what it takes then step up and debate. What are you afraid of?
    www.codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    What you wrote is bullshit. Codoh is bullshit. You haven’t presented single rational & tenable argument.

    And, no serious historian talks about “6 M and 5 M others”. Hitler’s victims, depending on methodology, are bracketed between 15 million and 35 million.

    Nothing more than irresponsible blabber. The entire holo denial business is just a bunch of crackpots running around & screaming nonsense.

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    Hi Bar Don Kaldian,

    Below is a "crackpot" Israeli-commemoration that's way more than mere "irresponsible blabber."

    https://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/In-honor-of-Trump-Jerusalem-square-near-American-embassy-named-for-him-554752
    , @gwynedd1
    Don't you find it a little odd the Germans would use such an inefficient means to kill people like gassing them? Also odd that Ann Frank died of Typhus showing the exact reason why the pesticide was in use.

    But why gas people when starvation is so passively effective? All that "evidence" shows staved emaciated bodies. So people on the brink of starvation need to be gassed?

    Even German fighting units were starving:

    http://www.dererstezug.com/German_Rations_at_the_Front.htm

    "The Germans also attempted to develop individual combat rations similar to those used by the U.S. Army, such as “C” and “K” rations, but they never reached the level of perfection of the American’s packaged rations (For additional information on these rations, refer to the article: "German Iron Rations" by Doug Nash or "The German Army K-Ration" by Eric Tobey published on this website). This method of delivering individual rations was unsuccessful, due either to failures of the supply system to get these rations to the front, or that there simply were not enough on hand to issue to the troops on a regular basis when the normal method of issuing hot rations failed. Either way, the German food supply system was totally inadequate to properly sustain the fighting energy that the troops needed for this offensive campaign.

    So, as the campaign began, the German food supply system, including that of the 352nd VGD, was already unable to keep its Grenadiers adequately fed. As the Battle of the Bulge dragged on into January, the lack of proper nutrition, made worse by having to live out in the open during an uncharacteristically cold winter, took its physical and mental toll on the average Grenadier. Tired, hungry, cold, and forced to forage for his food, only a superman could have continued fighting with the same enthusiasm and effectiveness that the German forces displayed at the beginning of the offensive.
    "


    Jews were certainly captives and were forced into labor. However its pretty clear that as the captives they were they were likely to starve. The prison guards were probably starving at the end. All it would take is the last month or two of complete devastation to do this. The Germans of course made a colossal mistake . They were responsible for putting them in this position. They made the Jews helpless . If you cannot feed them...


    Well, I guess rounding people up and neglecting them due to being a loser in a war is not going to be the propaganda tool they are looking for because its all too common. Its just a too ordinary horror of war.


    http://thecatholicspirit.com/news/local-news/wwii-vet-recalls-ordeal-inside-german-prison-camp/

    "The initial interrogations soon gave way to the daily struggles and boredom of life in Stalag 17. The hardest part, he said, was the constant hunger. The men were fed only a warm cup of water in the morning, then one cup of barley soup around noon. At first, Velasquez did not want to eat the soup because it was full of worms. But, when it came down to a choice between eating it and starving, he chose to swallow his displeasure along with the worms."


    Imagine the US losing the war to Japan. I wonder how well fed those Japanese captives in US camps would be if there were food shortages? I doubt the US would have come off too well with starved Japanese.


    What really fucking pisses me off about the Holocaust propaganda machine is that it covers up the real conversation about how vulnerable a displaced people actually is. Most people think it takes gas chambers to kill people like this. All you need to do is move them and put them in camps in such a position that they are dependents. If anything goes wrong with supply or basic sanitation , people start dying.


    Staved and emaciated bodies just do not fit with gas chambers. However this should hopefully come as a warning to any ideas of putting people into camps. If they die it was still your responsibility.
    , @Wally
    I guess that's why you cannot refute what I post.
    I guess that's why you dodge the specific challenges that I put to you.

    All you have are rants & childish emotionalism, not facts. But then, since when aren't projecting Zionists completely unhinged?

    I see that the thoroughly debunked Andrew Mathis is lurking about, so here are a few examples of him being hammered by knowledgeable Revisionists. I seriously doubt if you could do better.
    In fact, I note that your afraid to even try. We know why. www.codoh.com

    See the threads below where Andrew Mathis, aka: Thames Darwin has posted and utterly lost, some examples of the beat down:

    Alleged & laughable "mass graves" according to T. Darwin / Andrew Mathis
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9414

    'Andrew Mathis on Dachau, Majdanek, Auschwitz, Treblinka'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9228

    Mathis who also posts as 'Thames Darwin', gets shot down:
    Anecdotal evidence & "holocaust survivors"
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9238

    holocaust' denial article by Andrew Mathis debunked here'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2816

    'Prof. Mc Nally dissects HHP's Andrew Mathis' bogus article'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=284

    'Holo. Hist. Proj.'s Andrew Mathis on Zyklon scent removal'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2499

    'Green, Mathis refuted / cyanide: lice, humans, & more'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=267

    'Believer org. spokesman, Andrew Mathis, demolished in debate'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=254

    'Holo. Hist. Proj.'s Andrew Mathis attempts damage control'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2498

    'Email from Andrew Mathis (The Holocaust History Project)'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1526

    'holocaust' History Project to unveil section on Treblinka'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=280

    Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11345
     
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  64. gwynedd1 says:
    @anarchyst
    Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant, to which I reply, “God is not a real estate agent”.
    Jews rejected the covenant when they murdered Jesus Christ. Their covenant with God was then “null and void”.
    It is the flawed Schofield translation of the Bible that elevated jews to the status of Christianity’s “elder brothers”, which was then reinforced by the Catholic (flawed) “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” in the 1960s.
    I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage.
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    The only common thread between Christianity and judaism is the Ten Commandments–nothing more.
    The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.
    Christianity welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status–not true of judaism.
    Judaism is an insular belief system that shuns outsiders, prohibits proselytization, and promotes a form of supremacy, relegating all gentiles (non-jews) to the status of livestock–subhumans with souls, only to be used for the advancement and benefit of jews.
    Jews DID murder Jesus Christ. Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder. As always is the case, the jews got others, the Romans to do their dirty work for them–the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. How can Christians have the same values as the Jews; the very people who denounced and betrayed the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, and call for his execution (by others, of course, that is the Jewish way). It makes absolutely no sense at all. Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.
    It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel’s wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.

    “Elder brothers.”

    No kidding. Why not the Sadducees instead? More or less Judasim is founded from the Pharisee religion, essentially found in the Mishnah contemporary with the New Testament. Both lay claim to the same “legitimate” root. One went spiritual , NT and libertarian and the other when more literal and authoritarian.

    May as well consider Apocrypha too then.

    Torah Jews believe both are full of crap. Everyone left the Samaritans out to dry and they were persecuted as schismatics by all. Guess than means they are wrong since there are few who remain.

    I suppose the Essene was the one out of the three that was proven wrong the most since the rebellion did not look like it was divine providence when they starved inside Jerusalem.

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  65. @Johnny Smoggins
    That book, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, is sold by neither Amazon, nor Barnes and Noble or any other major bookstore and is illegal to own or purchase in many countries.

    Does that not act as a red flag to people about the veracity of the claims of Jews and their supporters about "the holocaust"? If what Butz had written was nonsense or demonstrably false it would serve as an example of how wrong holocaust revisionists are right?

    A lot of people here probably rightly consider themselves to be fairly well informed. It's worth your time to watch this video, four hours in its entirety, which scientifically breaks down a lot of the claims made about what happened. It's what made me start to seriously question what I'd been told.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjMiZakKdzc

    I bought it through ABE books, no problem.
    It was mentioned by a German expert on concentration camps in one of his books.
    To this day I wonder why he mentioned it.

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    I just did a quick search on ABE books and it's no longer even listed. I bought it on another book website and got one of only four copies available. Hang on to your copy, it might become a collector's item.

    Of course it's widely available on pdf.
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  66. @JustJeff
    The problem with the holocaust isn’t that it’s a myth, the problem is that it’s treated like a religious event and not a historical one. 70% of American jews believe remembering the holocaust is central to Jewish identity so it pretty much is a religion for secular Jews. We need to go back to treating it like a historical event and stop making it so emotional. There’s no reason why we should get more emotional over the holocauat versus any other genocide. It doesn’t make the Jews special and it doesn’t give them the right to oppress Palestinians and hijack American foreign policy.

    As is the Armenian genocide to the Armenian identity.

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  67. @Anonymous
    As Brother Nathanael points out, in Elie Wiesel’s autobiographical book about his experiences at Auschwitz and Buchenwald, Wiesel never mentions gas chambers but rather execution of Jews by throwing them into flaming pits. You don’t need to be a conspiracy nut to question his exclusion of gas chambers in his autobiographical work about Nazi death camps or to find the claim of execution by throwing into flaming pits as ludicrous.

    We see even today, the case of “Assad gassing his own people”, how ludicrous the lies can be and how the controllers of the official narrative can easily get the vast majority of the people to accept the lies as fact. And even get them emotional and crying about these lies.

    Elie Wiesel, ‘La Nuit’, 1958, 2007
    Wiesel assumed the gas chambers in Birkenau, where he never was.
    He did see chimneys, that were there, the crematoria.
    Too lazy to find the exact words, and translate them.
    I wonder if anyone ever read this book with attention, what he describes about the Auschwitz camps he was in, several, fits with what Rassinier and others describe, the camps had self management.
    Paul Rassinier, ´Was ist Wahrheit ?, Die Juden und das Dritte Reich´, Leoni am Starnberger See, 7th printing, 1981 (Le véritable procès Eichmann ou les vainqueurs incorrigibles, 1963; The Real Eichmann Trial or the Incorrigible Victors. ISBN: 0911038485, 1983)
    Eugen Kogon, ‘Der SS-Staat, Das System der deutschen Konzentrationslager’, 1974, München
    J.G. Burg, Schuld und Schicksal, Europas Juden zwischen Henkern und Heuchlern, München, 1962

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  68. densa says:
    @Anonymous
    Do you get bored writing the same column over and over?

    I hope not. There is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come.

    Thanks to Giraldi and all the commenters here who want to see our government function on our behalf. Right now it’s riddled with treason. Despite large majorities of both parties consistently identifying money as corrupting our politics, bribery became normalized in part so that Jewish politics could prosper. Now we no longer even expect our representative to pretend.

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  69. Treasonous government worker rats — such as Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, Charles Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Marco Rubio — who put the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States must be removed from power by patriotic Americans.

    Israel is a strategic liability and an untrustworthy client state of the American Empire. The United States should cut all ties with Israel. the American Empire’s three letter word interest in the Middle East is O – I – L not J – E – W. George Washington was right about treasonous and perfidious elements putting the interests of other nations ahead of the interests of the United States.

    Treasonous government worker rats have been putting the interests of Israel ahead of the United States for half a century or more. Former president George W Bush and former vice president Dick Cheney are two treasonous government worker rats who have put the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States.

    George W Bush, Dick Cheney and the Jew-controlled Neo-Conservative faction in the Republican Party dragged the US military into the Iraq War debacle. The Jew-controlled Neo-Conservative faction of the Republican Party is always looking to get the US military to do the dirty work for Israel. It is to be expected.

    What is not to be expected is to have two treasonous government worker rats such as George W Bush and Dick Cheney use their power to advance the foreign policy goals of Israel at the expense of the foreign policy interests of the United States.

    Treasonous government workers say there is no daylight between the interests of Israel and the interests of the United States. Patriotic Americans who love their country, and have great respect for George Washington, must immediately begin efforts to totally and completely break any and all ties between Israel and the United States.

    AMERICA FIRST!

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    Israel is a strategic liability...
     
    It's unquestionably an existential threat to the rest of the world, in fact.
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  70. @Bardon Kaldian
    What you wrote is bullshit. Codoh is bullshit. You haven't presented single rational & tenable argument.

    And, no serious historian talks about "6 M and 5 M others". Hitler's victims, depending on methodology, are bracketed between 15 million and 35 million.

    Nothing more than irresponsible blabber. The entire holo denial business is just a bunch of crackpots running around & screaming nonsense.

    Hi Bar Don Kaldian,

    Below is a “crackpot” Israeli-commemoration that’s way more than mere “irresponsible blabber.”

    https://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/In-honor-of-Trump-Jerusalem-square-near-American-embassy-named-for-him-554752

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  71. Momus says:
    @Altan Goldman
    From MarketWatch.com:

    Iran-deal opponents’ dirt on Rhodes: President Trump appears likely to announce his decision to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal on Tuesday. Ahead of the announcement, the New York Times reports that evidence has surfaced that the agreement’s opponents engaged in an effort to dig up dirt on former Obama aide Benjamin Rhodes and his family that continued well after the Obama administration left office. Opponents of the nuclear deal with Iran have accused Rhodes for years of scheming to sell the agreement on false pretenses to the American people.

    The Times says a detailed report on Rhodes compiled by investigations firm Black Cube contains pictures of his Washington apartment, telephone numbers and email addresses of his family members, as well as unsubstantiated allegations of personal and ethical transgressions. It is unclear who hired Black Cube, the Times reported. The firm was founded by former intelligence analysts from the Israeli Defense Forces.

    Ben Rhodes conduct was egregious but it pales in comparison with the almost treasonous capitulation Obama and Kerry inflicted on the US and the West. I would imagine knowing that Black Cube had looked him up for a potential date would be a bit unsettling.

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  72. j2 says:
    @Momus
    Why do you say the holocaust is a myth? I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

    I have been there 4 times. First time there was a sign that 4 million died. Last time they did not show the film anymore but merely explained that prisoners had to stand long hours on a name call, which for sure is true, and that a water pipe for washing which has many equal size holes and high pressure cannot possibly give out water except from the first few holes. At the same time in Krakow there were similar water pipes on the market place, they did give water from all holes(?) If you do yourself calculations of the dead and survivors maybe you find something odd.

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  73. Momus says:
    @anarchyst
    What say you on the deliberate Israeli act of war on the USS Liberty (GTR-5) on June 8, 1967, with the loss of 34 American sailors' lives?

    That the Israelis were not in a position to fuck around?

    They would also shoot down any of their own pilots who appeared to be going to overfly Dimona.

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    Not true...Israel would nt shoot down its own planes as they were busy attacking a U S ship. Israel was supposed to be our "friend", you hasbara...
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  74. Momus says:
    @gwynedd1
    Overwhelming evidence of what?

    Few deny that something happened to the Jews. What exactly that was is entirely another matter.

    Overwhelming evidence for the holocaust. For every denier there are a thousand witnesses.

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    Define "Holocaust".

    If for example I said 8 million died in the "Holocaust" from hours of torture , does that mean you are a "Holocaust" denier? Maybe I think its 10 million and all you deniers should be in prison?
    , @L.K
    "Overwhelming evidence for the holocaust. For every denier there are a thousand witnesses."

    pffffbuhahaHAHAHHAAHA

    Keep the jokes coming, hoaxter! You are clown without the makeup!
    , @Wally
    Yes, we know that they claim to be 'witnesses", but are in fact, liars ... for profit.

    The point being that what they actually say defies science or is in direct contradiction of other lies, they simply have not / cannot keep there stories straight.

    If so called "witnesse$' are the thing, then witchcraft is an established fact.
    There are countless "witnesses" to witchcraft, complete with testimonies in courts of law, testimonies that were accepted by 'great minds' / governments worldwide, with 'documents'.*

    Now, please give us the names of just THREE 'holocaust' "witnesses". Tell us specifically what they said, when they said it, and where.
    And watch as I demolish your nonsense.

    If you cite an alleged document, then please show us the original.

    * Witchcraft documents:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/ModestEnquiry.jpg/380px-ModestEnquiry.jpg

    http://www.danverslibrary.org/archive/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/CoverPage-785x1024.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/236x/da/db/57/dadb5702445044c031baf3f521b15a87--salem-witch-trials-antiques.jpg

    www.codoh.com

    , @Them Guys
    Is Momus really Elli May married to her brother Jethro from tv hillbillies?

    Or...Really that jew woman survivah who claimed she was able to get an accurate official count of how many jews got tossed into Ovens at her camp....Via the process of viewing and smelling the creamation oven chimney smoke?....She claims that it was possible due to when a jewish body alive or dead was turned to ash in 10-12 Min!....The chimney smoke she saw had a Different Color and smelled much Sweeter compared to smoke from goy gentile bodies!!!

    She was able to secretly sit near a door to her camps quarters with a tiny crack in doors wood so to view and smell that smoke as it wafted past her dorm!

    Hence she discovered jewish burned bodies give off a totally Different Color and Smell within the smoke emitted due to Oven burned bodies. Per her count Nazis tossed something like 200,000 jews into ovens per Month if I recall correct.

    Question that or her and off to hard time prisons for 3-5 yrs eh!

    My Other Favorite factual truth jew claim is that Nazis Made Soap from jewish body Fat!

    Jew sez: "OyVehy See Dat Pile in da ditch of dem 5000 dead jewish bodies...Dat weighs just 70 lbs due to Starvations and disease?.....Vell ders da Proof cuz dem evil Nazis used dem dead jews to make jew fat soap from"!

    Ok jew so tell us all....If dead jews starved down to only 70 Lbs....Where the fuck did that jew FAT come from eh?

    Oh and pray tell Us all...Just because a ditch contains 5000 or 2000 or any number dead bodies.....How can you be certain it is dead jews?....Did Nazis Stamp or Tatoo a huge "J" on their Ass or what?

    Question: If worlds Most skilled expert mass murder machine of Hitler & Nazis were so intent on eliminating every jew asap fast as can...and being meticulous detail freaks as germans were/are. Then why would they first give every jew a Haircut and brand New matching striped PJ's to wear while standing in line awaiting their turn in the gas chamber? That gas chamber with a Reg house window in a side wall of chamber the Nazis Forgot to Lock and made it possible for, was it famed Eli Weazel (?) to escape being gassed 9- Times from ages 6yrs old to age 9 yrs old by holding his breath when gas poured out shower heads and dragging 150+ LB dead jew bodies over to below unlocked window where Small 6-to-9 yr old jewboy could then Climb Up piled dead bodies and escape Gas?
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  75. @jilles dykstra
    I bought it through ABE books, no problem.
    It was mentioned by a German expert on concentration camps in one of his books.
    To this day I wonder why he mentioned it.

    I just did a quick search on ABE books and it’s no longer even listed. I bought it on another book website and got one of only four copies available. Hang on to your copy, it might become a collector’s item.

    Of course it’s widely available on pdf.

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  76. Momus says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    There are hundreds of mass grave sites throughout Europe
     
    Show me 10 mass graves like Katyn which were forensically investigated - you can't. They found nothing in the famous Babbi Yar - nothing at all. These mass graves you speak off are nothing but tombstones and memorial placques stating that so many thousands were shot and buried here - but there's no proof and the Rabbis in charge of these places will not allow any forensic investigation because that would be 'dishonoring the dead'. To cover up this scandalous lack of evidence the hoaxers made up the story of Paul Blobbel the magic man incinerator who in a years time traveled to 1000s of site in an area which was roughly 1.5 square million kilometres and exhumed and burnt every corpse and ground all the bones. For someone who did this superhuman task very little is known about this magic man incinerator.

    Oh there is also the curious case of the dog that did not bark i.e. the Russians, 1.2 to 2 million Jews were supposed to have been shot in the Eastern Front and the Russians remained totally silent. They could have used these mass shootings as a propaganda coup but they did nothing. It's impossible that they didn't know it since they had tens of thousands of partisans behind German lines. Then the even more curious fact - the Russians were deeply embarrassed by the Germans over the Katyn mass graves so when they started driving the Germans back they methodically investigated the sites of the alleged shooting and were desperately looking for mass graves. They found nothing of any significance.

    You are on the wrong side of history talking out your arse.

     

    Your traditional holocaust story is dead mate, nothing can resurrect it which is why in a desperate attempt to preserve the story they throw people into prison who question it.

    Have you read revisionist literature? Read it and then come back. But I get the feeling that you're an intellectually dishonest hack who will not read the other side of the story.

    I’ve read and listened to David Irving before he was booted from my country and tried to follow the threads of other denier arguments. For every question raised there is a deafening thunder of answers and evidence refuting it.

    Get yourself along to the Yad Veshem Holocaust Memorial Center in Jerusalem. I guarantee your point of view will shift 180 degrees.

    Alternatively you could line up with the Hiroshima Bomb deniers and fry what’s left of your brain’s evidence-examining faculty following that rubbish.

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    Get yourself along to the Yad Veshem Holocaust Memorial Center in Jerusalem.

    Hmm --- where are the bones of six million?

    You cannot disappear all those bones.

    Six million is a lie! Gas chambers is a lie!

    The sad truth - the Jews have used those lies to spill blood - Shame shame!

    Think Peace --- Maintain Hope --- Art
    , @Meimou

    I’ve read and listened to David Irving before he was booted from my country and tried to follow the threads of other denier arguments. For every question raised there is a deafening thunder of answers and evidence refuting it.
     
    Feel free to give us evidence of mass graves anytime pal.

    Any explanation of how the Nazis could kill millions without the Allies knowing about it would be good as well.
    , @Wally
    "Get yourself along to the Yad Veshem Holocaust Memorial Center in Jerusalem. I guarantee your point of view will shift 180 degrees."

    Really?
    What's there that proves the fake '6M Jews'?

    Hell, I've been to Disneyland too and I still don't believe Mickey Mouse & Donald Duck are real.

    Speaking of how these 'mu$eums' work:

    U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum displays standard German air-raid shelter door, describing it as the door to a gas chamber at Majdanek
    By David Thomas
    http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DT/gcturen.html
    and:
    'NEWS! Wiesenthal Ctr. 'Mu$eum' caught faking 'gas vans'! '
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8534
    and:
    'German popular magazine bomb shelter ads debunk 'peepholes' & 'gas tight doors'
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=610
    and:
    'Fake Photographs of the Einsatzgruppen murdering Jews'
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11179

    Just to list a few.

    For more, search fake photos at http://www.codoh.com

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  77. Momus says:
    @Them Guys
    In 1999 Two Archeology experts took the Same type Ground Penetrating Radar machinery as used on the TV show Ice Road Truckers, used to check via xray type computer assisted graphs the Depth of Ice to see if road is Safe to drive upon......Same exact machinery taken to 1/2 Dozen or so "Camps" to search for buried bodies and or ash of burned after exumed millions bodies as claimed by many jews.

    They located ZERO bodies-Bones-Ash's-Teeth fragments etc. ZERO-NONE!

    And in year 2000 French and other newspapers did long articles on this mission to locate.

    ZERO=NONE!

    What Do You Not as Yet...Get eh?

    oh I forgot you have refused to read or research ANY provided info or websites or books and rather keep asking questions or "educating" all the wide awake smart folks here with repetitive falsehoods that You provide zero proof of....OyVeh....

    Maybe they looked in the wrong places or the radar gear had been broken by the truckers?

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  78. @Jake
    Latecomer, very late, to the party.

    What you note required a process that began with the Judaizing heresy Anglo-Saxon Puritanism. Then the Puritans spend decades getting much richer and becoming the most active group in English politics, one demanding changes that could come only with large scale violence to destroy.

    The Puritan Revolution was necessary, making Anglo-Saxon Judaizing the heresy that would be the basis of WASP culture, of Modern English culture. Then Archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell made concrete the meaning of Anglo-Saxon Puritanism by allying with Jews, taking Jewish money (to Jews, being bought by Jews) , granting Jews the right to return to England and granting Jews special rights and privileges. And that deal was made precisely so Cromwell could slaughter more white Christians native to the British Isles.

    From the time it became fully established as itself, as opposed to being a stage of pre-Reformation English identity and deep-culture, WASP culture was allied with Jews so WASP culture could destroy more white Gentiles and their local cultures.

    The British Empire took that culture's attitudes and manners and morals worldwide.

    All of the above was absolutely necessary to what we suffer from today. Today, that WASP Empire still exists, its main capital moved from London to DC and NYC, with Hollywood its entertainment and propaganda capital.

    The Holocaust will remain sacrosanct anywhere that WASP culture rules, anywhere the values and mores, the identity, of WASP culture sets standards and uses it guns and banks to make them stick.

    Of course, you can't have the rise of the Judaizing Anglo-Saxon Puritans without the Reformation, so perhaps we should start there.

    Communism as ethnic warfare. Jews use ideological subterfuge to mask their ethnic-driven eliminationist attacks upon European Christians and European Christendom.

    Cromwellism as ethnic warfare. Teutonic twat Cromwell uses parliamentary power struggle to attack Anglo-Normans and the Celtic periphery.

    Can’t we all get along? Sorry, Sir Rodney King, we can’t.

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  79. @Grahamsno(G64)

    Their position is simply untenable & ludicrous.
     
    Really then why are revisionists harassed and thrown into prison. Why this raft of Holocaust denial laws in Europe over the last decade. You could have just laughed us off as street corner crackpots - why the loss of livelihood and prison sentences? You know why because you can't answer the hard technical questions the revisionists pose.

    About the numbers quoted in your post you should be a bit agnostic about it, I will give you a single example, in the Iraq war you had wildly different body counts the medical journal lancet gave a number of 1-1.5 million dead whereas the Iraqi govt. gave a body count of 150,000 the lancet journal used statistical methods accepted by contemporary demographics whereas the Iraqi govt. used the death certificates issued to next of Kin stating that without a death certificate nothing moved in Iraq. And you are talking about a televised war in the 21st century!! Imagine the chaos involved in attempting to give a bodycount of the Holocaust.

    Really then why are revisionists harassed and thrown into prison. Why this raft of Holocaust denial laws in Europe over the last decade. You could have just laughed us off as street corner crackpots – why the loss of livelihood and prison sentences? You know why because you can’t answer the hard technical questions the revisionists pose.

    This is because European New Left has, in past few decades, expanded their power & has brought most Western European societies to the brink of suicidal lunacy. Ideological heirs to 1968 are running decadent & self-destructive societies.

    If these lands were healthy, holo denial crazies would be left free to blather whatever they want.

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    BS.
    , @Momus
    Holocaust deniers are sanctioned because the diminution of a genocide causes great offense to most people.
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  80. gwynedd1 says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    What you wrote is bullshit. Codoh is bullshit. You haven't presented single rational & tenable argument.

    And, no serious historian talks about "6 M and 5 M others". Hitler's victims, depending on methodology, are bracketed between 15 million and 35 million.

    Nothing more than irresponsible blabber. The entire holo denial business is just a bunch of crackpots running around & screaming nonsense.

    Don’t you find it a little odd the Germans would use such an inefficient means to kill people like gassing them? Also odd that Ann Frank died of Typhus showing the exact reason why the pesticide was in use.

    But why gas people when starvation is so passively effective? All that “evidence” shows staved emaciated bodies. So people on the brink of starvation need to be gassed?

    Even German fighting units were starving:

    http://www.dererstezug.com/German_Rations_at_the_Front.htm

    “The Germans also attempted to develop individual combat rations similar to those used by the U.S. Army, such as “C” and “K” rations, but they never reached the level of perfection of the American’s packaged rations (For additional information on these rations, refer to the article: “German Iron Rations” by Doug Nash or “The German Army K-Ration” by Eric Tobey published on this website). This method of delivering individual rations was unsuccessful, due either to failures of the supply system to get these rations to the front, or that there simply were not enough on hand to issue to the troops on a regular basis when the normal method of issuing hot rations failed. Either way, the German food supply system was totally inadequate to properly sustain the fighting energy that the troops needed for this offensive campaign.

    So, as the campaign began, the German food supply system, including that of the 352nd VGD, was already unable to keep its Grenadiers adequately fed. As the Battle of the Bulge dragged on into January, the lack of proper nutrition, made worse by having to live out in the open during an uncharacteristically cold winter, took its physical and mental toll on the average Grenadier. Tired, hungry, cold, and forced to forage for his food, only a superman could have continued fighting with the same enthusiasm and effectiveness that the German forces displayed at the beginning of the offensive.

    Jews were certainly captives and were forced into labor. However its pretty clear that as the captives they were they were likely to starve. The prison guards were probably starving at the end. All it would take is the last month or two of complete devastation to do this. The Germans of course made a colossal mistake . They were responsible for putting them in this position. They made the Jews helpless . If you cannot feed them…

    Well, I guess rounding people up and neglecting them due to being a loser in a war is not going to be the propaganda tool they are looking for because its all too common. Its just a too ordinary horror of war.

    http://thecatholicspirit.com/news/local-news/wwii-vet-recalls-ordeal-inside-german-prison-camp/

    “The initial interrogations soon gave way to the daily struggles and boredom of life in Stalag 17. The hardest part, he said, was the constant hunger. The men were fed only a warm cup of water in the morning, then one cup of barley soup around noon. At first, Velasquez did not want to eat the soup because it was full of worms. But, when it came down to a choice between eating it and starving, he chose to swallow his displeasure along with the worms.”

    Imagine the US losing the war to Japan. I wonder how well fed those Japanese captives in US camps would be if there were food shortages? I doubt the US would have come off too well with starved Japanese.

    What really fucking pisses me off about the Holocaust propaganda machine is that it covers up the real conversation about how vulnerable a displaced people actually is. Most people think it takes gas chambers to kill people like this. All you need to do is move them and put them in camps in such a position that they are dependents. If anything goes wrong with supply or basic sanitation , people start dying.

    Staved and emaciated bodies just do not fit with gas chambers. However this should hopefully come as a warning to any ideas of putting people into camps. If they die it was still your responsibility.

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    While I think the thrust of your comment shows an admirable understanding of some key facts -
    ① even if there was not a specific policy to exterminate Jews, specifically using lethal gas, it is wrong to intern people solely because their peak global representatives 'declared war' on your nation; and
    ② internment in camps results in very large logistics failures if you're at the end of a lost war.

    So the wrongness of the German government's actions is absolutely clear: it doesn't matter if only five people died, those deaths are the result of a deplorable and unconscionable set of acts and policies, even if the policies themselves were not explicitly focused on extermination.
    .

    However I gasped when I got to your characterisation of life in a German WWII POW camp.

    You've clearly absorbed some invalid tropes from somewhere.

    If Hogan's Heroes is anything to go by - and since it is a riveting live-action account, it is unimpeachable as a source - life for the inhabitants of Luft Stalag 13 was characterised by a series of japes and zingers, often at the expense of a visiting General or SS Oberleutnant. There was no starvation - in fact often the inmates were able to sneak out to nearby towns hand have a nice sit-down meal with wine and cheese.
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  81. gwynedd1 says:
    @Momus
    Overwhelming evidence for the holocaust. For every denier there are a thousand witnesses.

    Define “Holocaust”.

    If for example I said 8 million died in the “Holocaust” from hours of torture , does that mean you are a “Holocaust” denier? Maybe I think its 10 million and all you deniers should be in prison?

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    You're incoherent.
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  82. j2 says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    Strange how many people are obsessing about Jewish victimhood during WWII. How can they, then, explain that way too many Jews in Europe disappeared? Vast swaths of their population in Poland, Ukraine, Romania, Belarus, Russia, Netherlands, Hungary,...- gone irreversibly.

    I don't know the exact figure, but most historians agree that number would be somewhere from 5 to 6 million.

    http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm

    Holocaust

    Extermination of the Jews: [make link]:

    Reitlinger, Gerald, The Final Solution (1953): between 4,194,200 and 4,851,200 (this number is accepted by Kinder, The Anchor Atlas of World History (1978))
    Brzezinski: 5,000,000
    Chirot: 5,100,000
    3,000,000 in death camps.
    1,300,000 massacred.
    800,000 by dis./maln. in ghettos
    David E. Stannard, “The Politics of Genocide Scholarship,” in Alan S. Rosenbaum, ed., Is the Holocaust Unique? Perspectives on Comparative Genocide (1996), p. 178. By one estimate, 2.4 million of the 5.1 million victims of the Holocaust died of disease in ghettos and concentration camps.
    Rummel: 5,291,000
    Grenville: 5-6M
    Davies, Europe A History (1998): avg. c. 5,571,300 (puts the minimum at 4,871,000 and the maximum at 6,271,500.)
    MEDIAN: ca. 5.6M
    Nuremberg indictment: 5,700,000 (accepted by Britannica)
    Gutman, Encyclopedia of the Holocaust (1990): 5,596,029 to 5,860,129
    P. Johnson: 5,800,000
    Wallechinsky: "nearly" 6,000,000
    Urlanis: 6M

    As for "who killed most", opinions are divided:

    http://necrometrics.com/tyrants.htm

    Question: Who was the Bloodiest Tyrant of the 20th Century?

    Answer: We don't know.

    ...
    1. Mao- 40M
    Hitler- 34M
    Stalin- 20M

    2. Hitler- 34M
    Stalin-20M
    Mao-10M


    3. Stalin -20M
    Hitler-15
    Mao-10M

    4. Hitler-34M
    Stalin-20M
    Mao-10M
    ..
    So, the answer to the question of "Who is roasting on the hottest fires in Hell?" is "Well, that depends..."

    As for general WWII victimology, there are too many variables:
    https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-worldwide-deaths-world-war

    Research Starters: Worldwide Deaths in World War II
    ....................

    China 20,000,000
    Germany 6,600,000-8,800,000
    Soviet Union 24,000,000
    ..........

    So, while ethnic Jewish activists can be criticized for focusing exclusively on their people's suffering, while ignoring more numerous & drastic that had befallen other peoples, I don't see how holo deniers can hold their ground.

    Their position is simply untenable & ludicrous.

    If you take the best data, that is American Jewish Yearbooks before the war and after and make the corrections to the last of German and Austrian Jews who immigrated, and correct the figure for Romania, you get Reitlinger’s number 4.5 million. If you notice to divide Europe to two parts, West including Western part of Poland that Germany occupied, and East, and then calculate, you get the unavoidable result that in Auschwitz could die maximum 400,000 (can be 60,000 quite well). As it is considerably smaller than 1 million, you see that there must be an error in the accepted figures. When you track the error, you find it and it is not in your calculation, it is in those books you refer to. Reitlinger’s 4.5 million is correct, if the starting value for the Soviet Union (2.8 million in 1939) is correct, but this figure is highly uncertain. If you then count the Jewish population in the USA, adding all known immigration waves and using the (well estimated) birth rate of 1.4% yearly, you notice that there was 1 million immigration to the USA apparently from other countries than Eastern Europe, that is, first moving to England, Germany or Mexico and migrating from there in another quote. This means that the likely number of dead is 3.5 million. It is still very high. There was a genocide, but not the way and in the places as is told. You refer to books. I suggest you make your own calculation and verify these books. But, I do not deny Holocaust. It was a miracle of G-d. Despite the fact that mathematics shows what I wrote, I believe that G-d could have more Jews die than there was. By the way, 6 million Jews are not missing. It is either 4.5 million or 3.5 million depending on whether there was before war (1920-38) immigration of 1 additional million to the States or not. This I cannot say for sure, it looks like there was from the population figures of the USA Jewish population.

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  83. This article is illustrative of why I send donations to courageous Mr. Giraldi’s Council for the National Interest. As a matter of fact I sent him a little money the other day, and will continue to do so when I can afford it.

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  84. bookish1 says:

    Jews aren’t as smart as some people think. Some of the first stories that jews put out to the public about the holocaust was that the Germans made lampshades out of the skin of jews and they made soap out of the dead bodies of jews. Jews didn’t think far enough ahead to realize that those stories would be very easy to prove as being bullshit. So the lampshades at the camps were tested for human skin and there was none. Then the soap was tested for DNA and there was none. So those stories were dropped from the Hebrew agenda of the holocaust story. Then of course there is the claim of 6 million jews being gassed to death. That story stuck for a long time but it soon dawned on the unsuspected goyim that it couldn’t be true due to the lack of evidence. So then they dropped it down to 4 million jews being murdered. That didn’t stick either for the same reasons. Now they are claiming 1 million or whatever their bullshit numbers really are. The whole holocaust story can so easily be debunked and is being debunked so now as a last resort they are enforcing laws in many countries that if a person denies the holocaust they are to be arrested and imprisoned. It shows how desperate the jews are now to keep that story alive. But here are a few simple facts that when examined will show the holocaust to bs.

    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t553062/

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  85. Art says:
    @animalogic
    A 90 year old woman must "serve a two-year-jail sentence for questioning the official narrative of the Jewish killings in World War II …"
    This is surreal. Liberal democracy (what's left of it) down the rabbit hole. Imprisonment as a consequence of questioning history ? Yes, I know, Germany has its ... sensitivities, but should historical guilt excuse a vicious assault on core values & a vulnerable individual ?

    A 90 year old woman must “serve a two-year-jail sentence for questioning the official narrative of the Jewish killings in World War II …”
    This is surreal. Liberal democracy (what’s left of it) down the rabbit hole. Imprisonment as a consequence of questioning history ? Yes, I know, Germany has its … sensitivities, but should historical guilt excuse a vicious assault on core values & a vulnerable individual ?

    The “six million lie” is coming home to roost. It is no longer shutting people up – it is making them mad.

    There is ZERO love for Jews and Israel among the German people. Fly an Israeli flag in a German city, and with hours it will disappear.

    Trump is killing the Iran nuke deal, he is forcing German business to halt sales and to knuckle under to US demands (i.e., Israeli demands). Even the Israel loving sycophant German politicians bristle over killing this nuke agreement.

    How long will it be before Germany joins Poland and Hungry in openly defying Jews. Sentiment is moving. Defiance is growing. It is more today then it was yesterday, and the same with the day before that.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope — Art

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  86. Grumbler says:

    South Carolina passes a law that prevents criticism of Israel. Christian Conservative Constitutionalists are silent. The same Christian Conservative Constitutionalists that go ballistic whenever there is legislation proposed for protecting islam from criticism.

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  87. L.K says:
    @Momus
    Overwhelming evidence for the holocaust. For every denier there are a thousand witnesses.

    “Overwhelming evidence for the holocaust. For every denier there are a thousand witnesses.”

    pffffbuhahaHAHAHHAAHA

    Keep the jokes coming, hoaxter! You are clown without the makeup!

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  88. Republican Party politician whores slavishly support Israel for the evangelical vote and the billionaire Jew loot.

    Millions of evangelical voters in the United States support the use of the US military as muscle to do the bidding of Israel in the Middle East and West Asia.

    Billionaire Jews such as Shelly Adelson pay the Republican Party politician whores big money to use the US military as muscle to fight wars on behalf of Israel in the Middle East and West Asia.

    The Jew-controlled Neo-Conservative faction in the Republican Party finds it remarkably easy to get the GOP politician whores to do what they want them to.

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  89. L.K says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Really then why are revisionists harassed and thrown into prison. Why this raft of Holocaust denial laws in Europe over the last decade. You could have just laughed us off as street corner crackpots – why the loss of livelihood and prison sentences? You know why because you can’t answer the hard technical questions the revisionists pose.
     
    This is because European New Left has, in past few decades, expanded their power & has brought most Western European societies to the brink of suicidal lunacy. Ideological heirs to 1968 are running decadent & self-destructive societies.

    If these lands were healthy, holo denial crazies would be left free to blather whatever they want.

    BS.

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  90. anarchyst says:
    @Momus
    That the Israelis were not in a position to fuck around?

    They would also shoot down any of their own pilots who appeared to be going to overfly Dimona.

    Not true…Israel would nt shoot down its own planes as they were busy attacking a U S ship. Israel was supposed to be our “friend”, you hasbara…

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  91. Wally says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    What you wrote is bullshit. Codoh is bullshit. You haven't presented single rational & tenable argument.

    And, no serious historian talks about "6 M and 5 M others". Hitler's victims, depending on methodology, are bracketed between 15 million and 35 million.

    Nothing more than irresponsible blabber. The entire holo denial business is just a bunch of crackpots running around & screaming nonsense.

    I guess that’s why you cannot refute what I post.
    I guess that’s why you dodge the specific challenges that I put to you.

    All you have are rants & childish emotionalism, not facts. But then, since when aren’t projecting Zionists completely unhinged?

    [MORE]

    I see that the thoroughly debunked Andrew Mathis is lurking about, so here are a few examples of him being hammered by knowledgeable Revisionists. I seriously doubt if you could do better.
    In fact, I note that your afraid to even try. We know why. http://www.codoh.com

    See the threads below where Andrew Mathis, aka: Thames Darwin has posted and utterly lost, some examples of the beat down:

    Alleged & laughable “mass graves” according to T. Darwin / Andrew Mathis

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9414

    ‘Andrew Mathis on Dachau, Majdanek, Auschwitz, Treblinka’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9228

    Mathis who also posts as ‘Thames Darwin’, gets shot down:
    Anecdotal evidence & “holocaust survivors”

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9238

    holocaust’ denial article by Andrew Mathis debunked here’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2816

    ‘Prof. Mc Nally dissects HHP’s Andrew Mathis’ bogus article’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=284

    ‘Holo. Hist. Proj.’s Andrew Mathis on Zyklon scent removal’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2499

    ‘Green, Mathis refuted / cyanide: lice, humans, & more’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=267

    ‘Believer org. spokesman, Andrew Mathis, demolished in debate’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=254

    ‘Holo. Hist. Proj.’s Andrew Mathis attempts damage control’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2498

    ‘Email from Andrew Mathis (The Holocaust History Project)’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1526

    ‘holocaust’ History Project to unveil section on Treblinka’

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=280

    Industry’s Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11345

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    You seem to just want to fling Jew bait. Why is that?

    I can post links too, you know.
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  92. Art says:
    @Momus
    I've read and listened to David Irving before he was booted from my country and tried to follow the threads of other denier arguments. For every question raised there is a deafening thunder of answers and evidence refuting it.

    Get yourself along to the Yad Veshem Holocaust Memorial Center in Jerusalem. I guarantee your point of view will shift 180 degrees.

    Alternatively you could line up with the Hiroshima Bomb deniers and fry what's left of your brain's evidence-examining faculty following that rubbish.

    Get yourself along to the Yad Veshem Holocaust Memorial Center in Jerusalem.

    Hmm — where are the bones of six million?

    You cannot disappear all those bones.

    Six million is a lie! Gas chambers is a lie!

    The sad truth – the Jews have used those lies to spill blood – Shame shame!

    Think Peace — Maintain Hope — Art

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  93. tac says:

    With each new desperate assertion in trying to tie Iran as the greatest threat to Israel’s existence and as the imminent threat to its survival in the region NetanYaHu is losing any remaining semblance of reality in his claims, the latest one being this:

    Benjamin Netanyahu has accused Iran of planting “very dangerous weapons” in Syria in a bid to threaten Israel.

    According to the prime minister, Iran is “seeking to plant very dangerous weapons in Syria … for the specific purpose of our [Israel’s] destruction.”

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201805081064245268-iran-weapon-syria-netanyahu/

    http://www.france24.com/en/20180508-netanyahu-accuses-iran-over-syria-aims

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  94. schrub says:

    What we need is an accurate count of deaths in the concentration camps during world war two. Is that possible?

    Well, yes it is and the records already exist. These records came from an exhaustive study of the camps that was conducted by the Red Cross during a three year period 1945-1948 after the end of the war.

    What happened to these records? Here it gets quite curious. After the study concluded, access to these records became almost instantly cut off and for the next fifty or so years they were rumors that they were being kept under very heavy security in a warehouse near Red Cross headquarters in Geneva.

    Then, approximately twenty years ago the records were transferred to a warehouse in Bad Arolsen in Germany where they sit today, under even heavier security. Bad Arolsen is a rather curious place
    (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Arolsen) where numerous war records are stored (hidden) and are mostly inaccessible to the public. Needless to say, the security there rivals apparently exceeds that that of a plutonium factory.

    As far as I can tell, only a single hastily taken photograph of the final findings of this study has managed to reach the public. The number shown on this photograph is less than 300,000 deaths that had occurred there and this figure includes all camps, all ethnicities and all races.

    Is this photograph a simple forgery? We will never know until the Germans release the original Red Cross records.

    For those who don’t know, the Red Cross had total access to all German prison camps (including Auschwitz, Sobibor, and Treblinka) until mid to late 1944 when allied bombing made access to these camps more and more dangerous. Red Cross workers were free to speak to the prisoners in all areas of these camps during their visits and if the genocide going there the Red Cross would have certainly heard about it from the prisoners (which apparently, they didn’t).

    The Russians, on the other hand, didn’t allow the Red Cross to visit the camps they controlled. Neither did they allow food packages to be received by prisoners from relatives and aid groups as was allowed in the Red cross supervised German concentration camps.

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    Contact the mother ship immediately...
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  95. tac says:

    Israel air strikes on Syrian positions in area South of Damascus:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-08/israeli-launches-air-strike-syrian-army-position-near-damascus#comment-11637467

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    They're more likely Iranian missile positions. One at least was being prepared to fire.
    , @Art

    Israel air strikes on Syrian positions in area South of Damascus:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-08/israeli-launches-air-strike-syrian-army-position-near-damascus#comment-11637467
     
    tac,

    The stink and stench of untruth, on Trump’s words to Iran, had not even dissipated and Netanyahu was attacking Syria with bombs, and Iran with a new lie. He says Iran is moving WMD into Syria.

    How long are people going to continue to buy Trump’s virtue signaling that promotes and justifies confrontation? Sanctions hurt real people – not the elite. Truth - Trump and the Netanyahu Jews are begging for blood in the streets of Iran. Trump says that he wants to help the Iranian people – when he knows that Netanyahu has other plans. How long can Trump continue to pass on Netanyahu’s warmongering?

    1984 Jew Think – sanctions - starve people for peace! (Deny them Western medicine, food, and goods.)

    Think Peace ---- Maintain Hope --- Art

    p.s. The comments against Jews on ZeroHedge, make UR look mild.
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  96. anonomy says:

    It would be nice to see the Muslims and other foreigners out of our politics as well as our country. They have lobby groups too just for their special interests and to build nations and spread their religion that with the liberals help they get to do the Christians by force. I don’t want to live in their nations with them for a reason. I’m also sick of the Palestinians who come here to try and sucker us into fighting for them “over there”!
    Antiwar shouldn’t mean everyone but Israel.

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    By all means, deport them. Do it today.

    Then get your psycho-necrophiliac terrorist dads/sons off our lands, and in every perverse way you control those lands (starve, bomb, etc.). Deal?

    No? Then, white self-genocide is the solution, baby.


    I'm also sick of the Palestinians who come here to try and sucker us into fighting for them "over there"
     
    Er, what? You must be one of those IQ70 white trash I keep hearing about.
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  97. False Flag to end all false flags comin up!
    Not good!
    MAGA??? Pretty please!

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  98. @Thomm
    It is a privilege to see a sophisticated Confuse and Conquer Jew like Ron Unz singlehandedly tie up hundreds if not thousands of White Trashionalists at once.

    Step 1 : Make a website that WNs use (since they can never build anything on their own). Let any and all anti-Semitic slurs stand on the website to make WNs complacent and even keyboard-courageous.
    Step 2 : Recruit the 2-3 intelligent authors that WNs read (Sailer, Derbyshire, etc.) who happen to bad at making money, so that they write for very little renumeration.
    Step 3 : After a few years, start pushing for normalization of Hispanics (even if illegal; especially if illegal).
    Step 4 : Deploy someone like Fred Reed to generate even more confusion, and then someone like Philip Giraldi to get the anti-Israel wing gathered in one place.

    It works…and it is a lesson in asymmetrical attrition warfare by a sophisticated Confuse and Conquer Jew.

    Ron Unz has said about 95% of this site disputes the fact that the real division is black vs non-black. I am among the 5% that agree with him (although I am more conservative than him, since I think there should be only skilled, legal immigration, not unskilled and certainly never illegal).

    Now, here is the thing. Those who talk about Auschwitz, lampshades, and soap never get moderated here, but those who agree with Ron Unz do. He will even get angry with those who agree with him too vocally, even as any and all anti-Israel content is fully welcome.

    Why?

    It is because he thinks it will expose his game of 4D chess from the perception of a 70-IQ WN. But I guarantee that it cannot, since the typical White Trashionalist is far below the IQ threshold where they can observe the many pieces in motion. I can describe Ron’s plan in full detail (and I fully support it), without any risk of the WNs figuring anything out (much less leaving this site).

    I am strongly in favor of what Ron Unz is doing.

    Oh, aren’t you the clever one!

    Sowing confusion like a true rube. Keep it up; it’s a pleasure to see how transparent and weak you schmucks can be.

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  99. @Momus
    Why do you say the holocaust is a myth? I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

    The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

    UR is a place to experience at least occasional lucid intervals, not ludic ones but thanks for the laughs anyway.

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  100. @Tyrion 2
    Or, it could just be that Unz believes in Aristotle's theory that adopting intellectual virtues is the best way to get to the truth.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_virtue


    Or, it could just be that Unz believes in Aristotle’s theory that adopting intellectual virtues is the best way to get to the truth.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_virtue

    Wait your saying if there are two explanations for something, the simpler one is usually better. That maybe it’s not a sophiscated 4D chess match. There should be a name for this concept, like Occam’s razor or something.

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    Exactly!

    Now, let's try and apply this to, Spirituality... Why? Because it still plays an important part in human civilisation.

    There are those on the one side, let's call them the Pagan Polytheists, who state that God is this human-like figure, who presumably has human-like physiological characteristics (brain, heart,...), who then presumably has to go through a whole host of human-like experiences, like, ageing, hunger (if not, why eat, as pagan imagery shows?), which should lead to certain bodily functions, and most perplexing of all... Death!!

    Then there are the others, let's call them the True Monotheists, who state that if you indeed believe in a Higher Being, that this Being cannot be anything but... One, Infinite, Unique. Certainly, no "human-like" ideological nonsense allowed anywhere near.

    Which definition of a Higher Being, satisfies this so-called, Occam's razor?

    Of course, this argument should apply only to theists, so others...

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  101. @Anonymous
    Do you get bored writing the same column over and over?

    Do you get bored writing the same column over and over?

    Boring?

    You don’t know boring until you’ve been subjected to wailing 25/8 about “the” laughable 6 million for decades and maybe even more than a century through every venue imaginable and some not, and a “holocaust” memorial on nearly every block in the country.

    Boring?

    You’d think the “high IQ” ones of the world’s only “chosen” super race could find something a little less boring than the continuous and mindless replay of the ludicrous, mendacious, hyperbolic and hysterical victim card.

    Bored?

    Get over it already.

    PS: Is someone forcing you to read his excellent columns?

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  102. @Momus
    Why do you say the holocaust is a myth? I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

    I have been to Auschwitz and other sites.

    So what? You think that confers some level of expertise or credibility? Wrong on both counts.

    I’ve never been to any of those places and intend to never go. Either way, I’d have a hard time believing anything you or the multitudes of other lying holocaust conspiracy theorists would say about it.

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    You are making the extraordinary claim by denying the holocaust.
    It is incumbent on you to demonstrate the veracity of what you say; not for anyone to 'prove' the holocaust.
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  103. @Charles Pewitt
    Treasonous government worker rats -- such as Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, Charles Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Marco Rubio -- who put the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States must be removed from power by patriotic Americans.

    Israel is a strategic liability and an untrustworthy client state of the American Empire. The United States should cut all ties with Israel. the American Empire's three letter word interest in the Middle East is O - I - L not J - E - W. George Washington was right about treasonous and perfidious elements putting the interests of other nations ahead of the interests of the United States.

    Treasonous government worker rats have been putting the interests of Israel ahead of the United States for half a century or more. Former president George W Bush and former vice president Dick Cheney are two treasonous government worker rats who have put the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States.

    George W Bush, Dick Cheney and the Jew-controlled Neo-Conservative faction in the Republican Party dragged the US military into the Iraq War debacle. The Jew-controlled Neo-Conservative faction of the Republican Party is always looking to get the US military to do the dirty work for Israel. It is to be expected.

    What is not to be expected is to have two treasonous government worker rats such as George W Bush and Dick Cheney use their power to advance the foreign policy goals of Israel at the expense of the foreign policy interests of the United States.

    Treasonous government workers say there is no daylight between the interests of Israel and the interests of the United States. Patriotic Americans who love their country, and have great respect for George Washington, must immediately begin efforts to totally and completely break any and all ties between Israel and the United States.

    AMERICA FIRST!

    Israel is a strategic liability…

    It’s unquestionably an existential threat to the rest of the world, in fact.

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  104. Protecting all victim cult group’s extra-constitutional federal rights is their full time job.

    Israel’s Jews are just one of the victim cult groups that they protect.

    The US 2-party system is setup to protect the extra-constitutional rights of all victim cult groups, where democrats represent secular Judaism’s biases, and Republicans represent conservative-Zionist Judaism’s biases.

    [MORE]

    Feminist are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Male oppression
    Jewish are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Gentile oppression
    Queers are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Straight oppression
    Muslims are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Christian oppression
    Disabled are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Healthy oppression
    Afro-blacks are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed White oppression
    Latinos are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Gringo oppression
    Hispanics are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Gringo oppression
    Military Veterans are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Militia oppression
    Native Americans are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Paleface oppression
    Asians are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Occidental oppression
    International Socialist are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Local Government oppression
    SJW Crony Capitalist are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Honest Businessmen oppression
    Zionist-Neocons are favored by illicit federal laws because of presumed Anti-Fascist oppression

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  105. El Dato says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)
    Blah Blah Blah Jewish power cannot be overthrown without deconstructing the 'Holocau$t' the myth of the holy 6 trillion. No victory without overthrowing this foundational mother of all lies. Either support the revisionists or shut the fuck up.

    Wow, double cheeseburger holocaust-denial crankery (the psychological need for this I will never understand) actually demaning “revisionism or STFU” (really!) and then extra-bacon ultra-weird anglo-saxon-puritanism crankery (I don’t understand the psychological need for this even less nor does it even make sense to me at all, I didn’t know the War of the Roses was going on in 21st century and anyway who gives a fuck) in the first post.

    What the fracking hell.

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    Are you on drugs fucking incoherent idiot.
    , @James Forrestal
    But do you understand the psychological need for Holocaustianity, though?
    , @Anon
    Shorter el dato: "Trump and I get our history from the same teevee shows."
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  106. iffen says:

    Indeed, it is far more plausible that Israel was involved in 9/11 than was Iran.

    My God, you just can’t help yourself, can you?

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    I don't remember Iran trying to blow the crap out of a US navel vessel and then claiming it was a mistake.

    So uh yeah it is much more plausible because Israel gains enormously. And if Iran was dancing they did it as a declared enemy. Some of our declared friends were dancing.
    , @iffenproofs
    What iffen, you just fell off the turnip truck? Everybody knows there's two kinds of Jew State Jews.

    Sneaky saboteur spy terrorist Jew,

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/12/mapping-911-fort-lee/
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/23/mapping-fort-lee-the-truth-behind-911/

    Or cowardly torturer Jew.

    https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/64._defendants_motion_to_compel_cia_depositions_2.14.17.pdf

    What is it with the nasal whining?
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  107. El Dato says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Their position is simply untenable & ludicrous.
     
    Really then why are revisionists harassed and thrown into prison. Why this raft of Holocaust denial laws in Europe over the last decade. You could have just laughed us off as street corner crackpots - why the loss of livelihood and prison sentences? You know why because you can't answer the hard technical questions the revisionists pose.

    About the numbers quoted in your post you should be a bit agnostic about it, I will give you a single example, in the Iraq war you had wildly different body counts the medical journal lancet gave a number of 1-1.5 million dead whereas the Iraqi govt. gave a body count of 150,000 the lancet journal used statistical methods accepted by contemporary demographics whereas the Iraqi govt. used the death certificates issued to next of Kin stating that without a death certificate nothing moved in Iraq. And you are talking about a televised war in the 21st century!! Imagine the chaos involved in attempting to give a bodycount of the Holocaust.

    Throwing weirdos into prison doesn’t mean the weirdos are right, it just means the laws are wrong.

    I think Aristotle had something to say about this.

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  108. Momus says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Really then why are revisionists harassed and thrown into prison. Why this raft of Holocaust denial laws in Europe over the last decade. You could have just laughed us off as street corner crackpots – why the loss of livelihood and prison sentences? You know why because you can’t answer the hard technical questions the revisionists pose.
     
    This is because European New Left has, in past few decades, expanded their power & has brought most Western European societies to the brink of suicidal lunacy. Ideological heirs to 1968 are running decadent & self-destructive societies.

    If these lands were healthy, holo denial crazies would be left free to blather whatever they want.

    Holocaust deniers are sanctioned because the diminution of a genocide causes great offense to most people.

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    If you think your last holocaust was bad wait till you see the next one.....there's definitely one in your future.
    , @Bardon Kaldian

    Holocaust deniers are sanctioned because the diminution of a genocide causes great offense to most people.
     
    No, it is because New left/globalist ideology has consecrated Jews as their sacred cows & hallowed them as their ideological backbone.

    Most people care only about their victims, Ukrainians for Ukrainians, Russians for Russians, Japanese for Japanese ...and don't give a hoot about others.
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  109. @Wally
    I guess that's why you cannot refute what I post.
    I guess that's why you dodge the specific challenges that I put to you.

    All you have are rants & childish emotionalism, not facts. But then, since when aren't projecting Zionists completely unhinged?

    I see that the thoroughly debunked Andrew Mathis is lurking about, so here are a few examples of him being hammered by knowledgeable Revisionists. I seriously doubt if you could do better.
    In fact, I note that your afraid to even try. We know why. www.codoh.com

    See the threads below where Andrew Mathis, aka: Thames Darwin has posted and utterly lost, some examples of the beat down:

    Alleged & laughable "mass graves" according to T. Darwin / Andrew Mathis
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9414

    'Andrew Mathis on Dachau, Majdanek, Auschwitz, Treblinka'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9228

    Mathis who also posts as 'Thames Darwin', gets shot down:
    Anecdotal evidence & "holocaust survivors"
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9238

    holocaust' denial article by Andrew Mathis debunked here'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2816

    'Prof. Mc Nally dissects HHP's Andrew Mathis' bogus article'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=284

    'Holo. Hist. Proj.'s Andrew Mathis on Zyklon scent removal'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2499

    'Green, Mathis refuted / cyanide: lice, humans, & more'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=267

    'Believer org. spokesman, Andrew Mathis, demolished in debate'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=254

    'Holo. Hist. Proj.'s Andrew Mathis attempts damage control'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=2498

    'Email from Andrew Mathis (The Holocaust History Project)'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1526

    'holocaust' History Project to unveil section on Treblinka'
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=280

    Industry's Andrew Mathis & Roberto Muehlenkamp claim patch of dirt holds remains of 100,000 at Ponar, Lithuania
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11345
     

    You seem to just want to fling Jew bait. Why is that?

    I can post links too, you know.

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    I see you have not / cannot refute what I post.
    Simple as that.

    www.codoh.com
    antisemtic: any thought or person that a Jew doesn't like

    name calling: the last resort of the desperate

    - If there was ‘a plan to kill every Jew the Germans could get their hands on’ as alleged, then why are there countless numbers of so called “survivor$"?

    - If the alleged ‘holocaust’ was fact, then why are there laws in Europe to prevent scrutiny of it? What kind of “truth” needs to imprison people to prevent free speech?

    - If Jews are so sure that millions of Jews were murdered and dumped into alleged known, existing mass graves, then why do they ask such dumb questions like "what happened to them then?

    - After all, Jews say that ’6M Jews & 5M others’ went to huge mass graves, Jews claim to know the exact locations of these alleged enormous mass graves, yet Jews cannot show us the alleged massive human remains.

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  110. Momus says:
    @tac
    Israel air strikes on Syrian positions in area South of Damascus:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-08/israeli-launches-air-strike-syrian-army-position-near-damascus#comment-11637467

    https://twitter.com/Syria_Hezb_Iran/status/993938991329284096

    https://twitter.com/Syria_Hezb_Iran/status/993945648658550784

    https://twitter.com/Jtruzmah/status/993949926739595270

    They’re more likely Iranian missile positions. One at least was being prepared to fire.

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  111. Momus says:
    @schrub
    What we need is an accurate count of deaths in the concentration camps during world war two. Is that possible?

    Well, yes it is and the records already exist. These records came from an exhaustive study of the camps that was conducted by the Red Cross during a three year period 1945-1948 after the end of the war.

    What happened to these records? Here it gets quite curious. After the study concluded, access to these records became almost instantly cut off and for the next fifty or so years they were rumors that they were being kept under very heavy security in a warehouse near Red Cross headquarters in Geneva.

    Then, approximately twenty years ago the records were transferred to a warehouse in Bad Arolsen in Germany where they sit today, under even heavier security. Bad Arolsen is a rather curious place
    (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Arolsen) where numerous war records are stored (hidden) and are mostly inaccessible to the public. Needless to say, the security there rivals apparently exceeds that that of a plutonium factory.

    As far as I can tell, only a single hastily taken photograph of the final findings of this study has managed to reach the public. The number shown on this photograph is less than 300,000 deaths that had occurred there and this figure includes all camps, all ethnicities and all races.

    Is this photograph a simple forgery? We will never know until the Germans release the original Red Cross records.

    For those who don't know, the Red Cross had total access to all German prison camps (including Auschwitz, Sobibor, and Treblinka) until mid to late 1944 when allied bombing made access to these camps more and more dangerous. Red Cross workers were free to speak to the prisoners in all areas of these camps during their visits and if the genocide going there the Red Cross would have certainly heard about it from the prisoners (which apparently, they didn't).

    The Russians, on the other hand, didn't allow the Red Cross to visit the camps they controlled. Neither did they allow food packages to be received by prisoners from relatives and aid groups as was allowed in the Red cross supervised German concentration camps.

    Contact the mother ship immediately…

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  112. Momus says:
    @gwynedd1
    Define "Holocaust".

    If for example I said 8 million died in the "Holocaust" from hours of torture , does that mean you are a "Holocaust" denier? Maybe I think its 10 million and all you deniers should be in prison?

    You’re incoherent.

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    You are a moron.
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  113. Art says:
    @tac
    Israel air strikes on Syrian positions in area South of Damascus:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-08/israeli-launches-air-strike-syrian-army-position-near-damascus#comment-11637467

    https://twitter.com/Syria_Hezb_Iran/status/993938991329284096

    https://twitter.com/Syria_Hezb_Iran/status/993945648658550784

    https://twitter.com/Jtruzmah/status/993949926739595270

    Israel air strikes on Syrian positions in area South of Damascus:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-08/israeli-launches-air-strike-syrian-army-position-near-damascus#comment-11637467

    tac,

    The stink and stench of untruth, on Trump’s words to Iran, had not even dissipated and Netanyahu was attacking Syria with bombs, and Iran with a new lie. He says Iran is moving WMD into Syria.

    How long are people going to continue to buy Trump’s virtue signaling that promotes and justifies confrontation? Sanctions hurt real people – not the elite. Truth – Trump and the Netanyahu Jews are begging for blood in the streets of Iran. Trump says that he wants to help the Iranian people – when he knows that Netanyahu has other plans. How long can Trump continue to pass on Netanyahu’s warmongering?

    1984 Jew Think – sanctions – starve people for peace! (Deny them Western medicine, food, and goods.)

    Think Peace —- Maintain Hope — Art

    p.s. The comments against Jews on ZeroHedge, make UR look mild.

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    How long are people going to continue to buy Trump’s virtue signaling that promotes and justifies confrontation?
     
    Too many Americans are really stupid and shallow.
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  114. gwynedd1 says:
    @iffen
    Indeed, it is far more plausible that Israel was involved in 9/11 than was Iran.

    My God, you just can't help yourself, can you?

    I don’t remember Iran trying to blow the crap out of a US navel vessel and then claiming it was a mistake.

    So uh yeah it is much more plausible because Israel gains enormously. And if Iran was dancing they did it as a declared enemy. Some of our declared friends were dancing.

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  115. Wally says:
    @Momus
    Overwhelming evidence for the holocaust. For every denier there are a thousand witnesses.

    Yes, we know that they claim to be ‘witnesses”, but are in fact, liars … for profit.

    The point being that what they actually say defies science or is in direct contradiction of other lies, they simply have not / cannot keep there stories straight.

    If so called “witnesse$’ are the thing, then witchcraft is an established fact.
    There are countless “witnesses” to witchcraft, complete with testimonies in courts of law, testimonies that were accepted by ‘great minds’ / governments worldwide, with ‘documents’.*

    Now, please give us the names of just THREE ‘holocaust’ “witnesses”. Tell us specifically what they said, when they said it, and where.
    And watch as I demolish your nonsense.

    If you cite an alleged document, then please show us the original.

    * Witchcraft documents:

    http://www.codoh.com

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    Now, please give us the names of just THREE ‘holocaust’ “witnesses”. Tell us specifically what they said, when they said it, and where.

    And watch as I demolish your nonsense.
     
    Books by former Birkenau women inmates who spent living several years each in Birkenau just few hundreds of yards from crematories and the ramp where the transport were coming. Their books were published in Polish in 1945/1946 which later were translated in to many languages.

    Here are your three witnesses.

    Zofia Kossak, Seweryna Szmaglewska, Krystyna Zywulska
     
    The first two were Catholic and Zywulska was Jewish.

    They all describe gassing operation there which they knew from what they saw, from what other inmates told them and in some cases from what Sonderkommando told them.
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  116. Realist says:

    I agree with what Giraldi says. This is a huge problem, but again I ask who allows this???

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    Well, you are probably aware that going too deep into such questions isn't productive, even advisable in public "blaboshpere".

    Modern citizens live in one minute attention/focus span. That includes most of Internet personas too.
    Questions as yours are just.....uncomfortable.

    The problem->quick solution->done.

    Foreign policy->Dem Joos->done. (you could put any other group as per personal preference). Capitalists, Anglos, Protestants, WASPs etc.
    If you don't want to blame any group, well, you go for Capitalism/Socialism/Christianity/whatever.

    Now, if you really want to know why the general populace does not care and why the people in power do act/behave that way, well.......getting those answers could prove...........tricky.

    In meantime, while some of us are seeking those answers The Machine grinds forward.
    The regime in Tehran just got one more thing to worry about.

    There is, apparently, certain inevitability in all this.

    We'll see.
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  117. Here in the United States, special Medicare coverage and immigration status have been granted, often concealed in other legislation, to benefit holocaust survivors and Russian Jews seeking to emigrate.

    Special laws benefiting them have long been the case.

    Swope, the non-goy was the author of the fascio-commie doctrine of government control of business, he was a supporter of Hitler via General Electric, and the author of the Swope Plan adopted by FDR as his New Deal program of centralized control of the economy.

    [A special bill to help Swope avoid payment of US income tax was] introduced into the house by Representatives Reed (Republican) and Keogh (Democrat) of New York was an amendment to section 2055 of the internal revenue code of 1945.

    … The bill was jumped over [“a log jam of 500 bills that had priority”] and passed both houses unanimously. There was still another obstacle. The secretary of the treasury, who had opposed the bill throughout, announced that he would advise the President to veto it. The veto could not be overridden because congress was in recess.“Tulin resorted to friends . . . (who) went to the White House. The amendment was signed and became law, Aug. 6, 1958.”
    -Dorothy Thompson, Special Law Passed for Zionist,The American Mercury, January 1959, pp. 135-136

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/AmMercury-1959jan-00135

    A lot of purported “survivors ” also get special tax treatment and special exemptions for obtaining other special benefits as well. Jews have claimed, that one of their grievances was that they were subjected to “special” treatment for being Jewish, but they’ve manged to turn that concept on its head for their benefit as well. Surprised?

    The United States Congress passed legislation in May 2001 exempting Holocaust survivors and their heirs from federal taxes on compensation and restitution payments received …
    The Claims Conference assisted Senator Peter Fitzgerald (R-IL) in drafting the legislation.

    http://www.claimscon.org/?url=tax_exemptions

    All Holocaust compensation and restitution payments are protected by 1994 federal legislation that excludes them from calculations relating to eligibility for federal benefits.

    The legislation (h.r. 1873 or public law 103-286) stated that payments made to individuals because of their status as victims of Nazi persecution are to be excluded from income and resources in determining both eligibility for and the amount of benefits or services to be provided under any Federal or federally assisted program which provides benefits or services based on need such as, but not limited to, Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income, food stamps and Federally subsidized Housing programs.

    http://www.claimscon.org/?url=payments_benefits

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  118. Realist says:
    @Art

    Israel air strikes on Syrian positions in area South of Damascus:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-08/israeli-launches-air-strike-syrian-army-position-near-damascus#comment-11637467
     
    tac,

    The stink and stench of untruth, on Trump’s words to Iran, had not even dissipated and Netanyahu was attacking Syria with bombs, and Iran with a new lie. He says Iran is moving WMD into Syria.

    How long are people going to continue to buy Trump’s virtue signaling that promotes and justifies confrontation? Sanctions hurt real people – not the elite. Truth - Trump and the Netanyahu Jews are begging for blood in the streets of Iran. Trump says that he wants to help the Iranian people – when he knows that Netanyahu has other plans. How long can Trump continue to pass on Netanyahu’s warmongering?

    1984 Jew Think – sanctions - starve people for peace! (Deny them Western medicine, food, and goods.)

    Think Peace ---- Maintain Hope --- Art

    p.s. The comments against Jews on ZeroHedge, make UR look mild.

    How long are people going to continue to buy Trump’s virtue signaling that promotes and justifies confrontation?

    Too many Americans are really stupid and shallow.

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    How long are people going to continue to buy Trump’s virtue signaling that promotes and justifies confrontation?
     
    Too many Americans are really stupid and shallow.
     
    To many intellectual Americans are coerced by the Jews.

    The Jews do not allow a real genuine peace movement to get started.

    All we need to attain peace, is a 10% movement among the intellectual elite.

    The Jew MSM will ignore and starve any such peace movement.

    The dark Jews will give NO air time to peace.

    Think Peace --- Art
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  119. @iffen
    Indeed, it is far more plausible that Israel was involved in 9/11 than was Iran.

    My God, you just can't help yourself, can you?

    What iffen, you just fell off the turnip truck? Everybody knows there’s two kinds of Jew State Jews.

    Sneaky saboteur spy terrorist Jew,

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/12/mapping-911-fort-lee/

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/23/mapping-fort-lee-the-truth-behind-911/

    Or cowardly torturer Jew.

    https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/64._defendants_motion_to_compel_cia_depositions_2.14.17.pdf

    What is it with the nasal whining?

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    What iffen, you just fell off the turnip truck?

    In fact, I did fall off the turnip truck, however, it wasn't yesterday.

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  120. Wally says:
    @Andrew E. Mathis
    You seem to just want to fling Jew bait. Why is that?

    I can post links too, you know.

    I see you have not / cannot refute what I post.
    Simple as that.

    http://www.codoh.com
    antisemtic: any thought or person that a Jew doesn’t like

    name calling: the last resort of the desperate

    - If there was ‘a plan to kill every Jew the Germans could get their hands on’ as alleged, then why are there countless numbers of so called “survivor$”?

    - If the alleged ‘holocaust’ was fact, then why are there laws in Europe to prevent scrutiny of it? What kind of “truth” needs to imprison people to prevent free speech?

    - If Jews are so sure that millions of Jews were murdered and dumped into alleged known, existing mass graves, then why do they ask such dumb questions like “what happened to them then?

    - After all, Jews say that ’6M Jews & 5M others’ went to huge mass graves, Jews claim to know the exact locations of these alleged enormous mass graves, yet Jews cannot show us the alleged massive human remains.

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    What would be the point? You’ll just repeat the same five things all over again.
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  121. If one believes that deference to the special foreign interest of one powerful and wealthy segment of the population is appropriate in a democracy …

    PG, “democracy”?

    What democracy, sir, and when did it happen?

    As you noted, the plutarchs control us and the system was designed that way from the start.

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  122. peterAUS says:
    @Realist
    I agree with what Giraldi says. This is a huge problem, but again I ask who allows this???

    Well, you are probably aware that going too deep into such questions isn’t productive, even advisable in public “blaboshpere”.

    Modern citizens live in one minute attention/focus span. That includes most of Internet personas too.
    Questions as yours are just…..uncomfortable.

    The problem->quick solution->done.

    Foreign policy->Dem Joos->done. (you could put any other group as per personal preference). Capitalists, Anglos, Protestants, WASPs etc.
    If you don’t want to blame any group, well, you go for Capitalism/Socialism/Christianity/whatever.

    Now, if you really want to know why the general populace does not care and why the people in power do act/behave that way, well…….getting those answers could prove………..tricky.

    In meantime, while some of us are seeking those answers The Machine grinds forward.
    The regime in Tehran just got one more thing to worry about.

    There is, apparently, certain inevitability in all this.

    We’ll see.

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    Hi All,

    As I previously suggested here at U.R., and knowing my opinion is shared by many people, high upon President Putin's job "Things-to-do-List" is protecting Israel.

    Refer to video (below) which features Netanyahu and Serbia's Zionist-approved President Aleksandr Vucic in Moscow.

    https://youtu.be/hTgqNzbIKpY
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  123. Wally says:
    @Momus
    Why do you say the holocaust is a myth? I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

    I’ve been to Disneyland and the evidence is overwhelming that Mickey Mouse is real.

    Tons of healthy Jews ‘extermination camp Auschwitz’ * at time of ‘liberation’:http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/PICS31/85600.jpg
    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where thousands of Jews chose to be left behind when the Germans left.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where most of the inmates, more thousands, chose to leave WITH the Germans.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where 1,250,000 human remains are supposedly buried, but no one can show us these remains.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where the absurdly alleged homicidal ‘gas chambers’ could not have worked as alleged, as proven repeatedly, scientifically.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where fake ‘gas chambers’ were “reconstructed” AFTER THE WAR.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where detailed aerial photos of the period show nothing that is alleged to have been happening.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where there are even obvious, laughable attempts to tamper with aerial photos that make a mockery of the fake storyline.
    see:
    ‘Auschwitz Aerial photos, tampered with to fit the fake story’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11669&p=87558

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where there were / are countless Jew “survivors”.

    * ‘Extermination camp Auschwitz’ where so called “survivors” say the most impossible and conflicting things that do not hold up to scrutiny, would be laughed out of a legit court of law.

    http://www.codoh.com

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    Wally,

    It's a fake cult with these people notice how they never reply to cold hard technical questions posed by us. They're a bunch of true believers of this absurd fairy tale where 6 million were magically teleported to another parallel universe without leaving any trace. The greatest alien abduction story ever.
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  124. I, for the life of me cannot understand why any decent Jew or one with an IQ above that of a turnip, would support some of the most “anti-Semitic” nutcases ever to stink up the universe…

    “… Zionist leaders … made a point of displaying abysmal contempt for their Jewish brothers and sisters by actively participating in their extermination.”

    Rabbi Gedalya Liebermann – Australia, THE ROLE OF ZIONISM IN THE HOLOCAUST

    http://www.truetorahjews.org/lieberman

    [Zionists] took the liberty of telling the world that they represented World Jewry. Who appointed these individuals as leaders of the Jewish People?? It is no secret that these so-called “leaders” were ignoramuses when it came to Judaism. Atheists and racists too.

    Rabbi Gedalya Liebermann – Australia, THE ROLE OF ZIONISM IN THE HOLOCAUST

    http://www.truetorahjews.org/lieberman

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  125. On this website, I was criticized months ago for stating that the First Amendment was threatened by Jewish-supported, pro-Israeli legislation that is now moving forward in America.

    I hope whoever had the chutzpah to lecture me and accuse me of not knowing what I was talking about will read — and fully understand the implications of — this article.

    I was also accused and lectured for stating that freedom of speech is limited by law with regard to Israel and Jewish subjects in Canada and Europe. The truth of what I stated in that case should be so self-evident to any knowledgeable person that I still do not need to prove my point. It is a fact.

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  126. @Wally
    I see you have not / cannot refute what I post.
    Simple as that.

    www.codoh.com
    antisemtic: any thought or person that a Jew doesn't like

    name calling: the last resort of the desperate

    - If there was ‘a plan to kill every Jew the Germans could get their hands on’ as alleged, then why are there countless numbers of so called “survivor$"?

    - If the alleged ‘holocaust’ was fact, then why are there laws in Europe to prevent scrutiny of it? What kind of “truth” needs to imprison people to prevent free speech?

    - If Jews are so sure that millions of Jews were murdered and dumped into alleged known, existing mass graves, then why do they ask such dumb questions like "what happened to them then?

    - After all, Jews say that ’6M Jews & 5M others’ went to huge mass graves, Jews claim to know the exact locations of these alleged enormous mass graves, yet Jews cannot show us the alleged massive human remains.

    What would be the point? You’ll just repeat the same five things all over again.

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    You’ll just repeat the same five things all over again.
     
    Something wrong with that?

    You don't know repetition until you've heard about "da poysekyooshun of de Chewz," who are nevertheless, all high IQ and "Chosen," and way superior to us dumb goyim.

    How many millenia have we all been subjected to that hysterical, mythological, palilalia?
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  127. @Realist

    Time to question the loyalty of some legislators and judges
     
    As well as Trump.

    The USA is chosen to fight for a small country.
    Who is ruling the US?
    Which country has so much pressure and lobby-groups to control US-politics via media?
    For example if Russia would have the same possibilities….like AIPAC, media power, moneymen etc.
    What would happen if Iran does a similar USS Liberty thing?

    Funny to see, when Nethayahu speaks in front of the Congress, US-Politicians give a lot of standing ovations and those politicians who did not stand up fast were been critiziced for a “lack of motivation” from the media.

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    Excellent points.
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  128. @anarchyst
    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent Zionists formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the “transfer” of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Nothing about extermination.

    Official International Red Cross figures for all camp “deaths” total around 731,000–NOT “6 million”. In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war…

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not “add up”…

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the “yellow Star of David” armband so that they could be easily identified.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out . . .

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE “KANGAROO COURTS” THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. A question for you “holocaust ™” promoters–why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a “cash cow” that “keeps on giving”. . . “there’s NO business like “SHOAH business”.
    Jewish complicity in this event is carefully “covered up”.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question “official” jewish “holocaust” orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the “official” jewish “holocaust” story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to “all things holocaust”. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment. . .

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the “chosen”) to engineer the jewish “holocaust”, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish “holocaust” was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many “holocausts” of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish “holocaust” is the only one that counts . . .

    Look at the “commercialization of the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish “holocaust ™” “survivors”, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean “camp” numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and “disease”–”holocaust ™ “transference syndrome". You see, children and grandchildren of jewish “holocaust ™” survivors are infected with this “disease” and should also be considered “holocaust ™” survivors, eligible for “holocaust ™” reparations.

    Since the jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews’ declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish “homeland for the last two-hundred years while predicting a “holocaust ™” of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures).

    Regarding that “holocaust ™” “showplace” Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called “gas chambers”. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called “gassing” took place”. There is a “gas chamber” chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the “operators” of these supposed “gas chambers”. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these “camps”.

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported “gas chambers”, had them tested and published his results. The absence of Prussian blue (ferricyanide) in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the “gas chambers” did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the “chimney” for the supposed “gas chamber” does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to “create” the “death camps” for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were “liberated” by the “allies”, the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be “liberated” by the Russian “allies”.

    I urge those “holocaust ™” believers to check these things out for yourselves–IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find…

    Interesting. I find that the events of WWII have little bearing on evaluating Israel’s behavior today.

    The most one would get from a dismissal of the persecution of the Jews during WWII would be a pass from the guilt mongering. But i would still contend Israel has a right to exist. i would still they have a right to self defense and i would still not support

    1. giving Israel a carte balnche’ pass for everything she does.

    2. I would still challenge Israel’s behavior of moving settlement — really mid-sized cities in territory
    she has no business in and i would still support

    3. a two state solution, a buyout or some other Palestinian agreed upon solution.

    4. still oppose US legislation making criticizing any foreign state a crime – that’s really bizarre.

    Holocaust or no holocaust just doesn’t enter into it.

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  129. Iran being held liable under JASTA is an absolute travesty of justice. It would be comic if it wasn’t so outrageous.

    The one country that is clearly at fault in 9/11 is Saudi Arabia. See The 28 Pages. And it is more than likely that the Saudis operated in conjunction with elements within Israel and the United States.

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  130. Rurik says:

    But i would still contend Israel has a right to exist. i would still they have a right to self defense

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  131. @Momus
    Why do you say the holocaust is a myth? I have been to Auschwitz and other sites. The evidence even for a sceptic, is overwhelming.

    There are TOO MANY HOLES in the official Holocaust story. Why would the Nazis transport Jews all the way to Auschwitz in Poland to kill them? Why use irritant cyanide gas (ZYKLON) when carbon monoxide from a badly ventilated stove would kill them painlessly in 15 minutes? Why were there 4.3 million survivors claiming compensation from Germany? Why did the Red Cross only give 272,000 as the total number of deaths in ALL the camps? Why was there a hospital, a pharmacy, a theatre, an orchestra, a choir, a library and a swimming pool and a soccer pitch at Auschwitz, in a death camp?

    There are no signs on wartime aerial photographs of the trainloads of coke that would have been required to incinerate millions of bodies? Why weren’t thousands of tons of ashes and bones ever found? The piles of bodies show emaciation typical of starvation and disease, things that would not have time to occur if people were being gassed on arrival. It was Typhus, dysentery and starvation that killed these people, because by 1944 allied bombing had destroyed the infrastructure of Germany.

    When there are so many inconsistencies in a scenario we SHOULD be skeptical.

    DOUBLE STANDARDS. The holocaust has been pounded into us for 70 years, but there is never a mention of the reign of terror conducted by the mainly Jewish Bolsheviks against the Russia people; 66 million dead (Solzhenitsyn). If most people knew about this it would stop the holier-than-thou-and-don’t-you-dare-criticize-us Jewish attitude. We are only allowed to say nice things about Jews. The story of the Holocaust was the main reason for the creation of Israel and the rise of Jewish Power, and we all, (but mostly the Palestinians), now have to live with the consequences of ethnocentric, racial supremacist and militaristic Jews subjugating the Palestinians and stealing their country, bit by bit.

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    Hi John Kirby,

    WOW!

    My deep gratitude for your clear & strong thought.

    The only thing I add, & assume you know, is the commonality which a majority of American citizens share with besieged Palestinians.

    Americans also underwent gradual "subjugation" (by Jewish Power) until our Exceptional-Homeland was cunningly transformed into the Skull & Bones ZUS.

    Thank you very much!
    , @ohmy
    I agree. Your facts are correct.

    here's a couple more;

    1939, Total Jewish population in Germany 500,000
    1939, Total Jewish population in Europe (inc. Germany) 2,500,000
    20 tons of German documents seized at wars end. Not 1 order with mentions killing Jews or signed by Adolf Hitler'
    True - Hitler removed Germany from Central banks, issued a new interest free German Mark
    True - Hitler in his 1st 4 years as Chancellor made Germany great again
    True - Hitler's Germany paid off WW1 reparations
    True - Hitler did not want war
    True - Hitler paid Jews to immigrate to Palestine with all their property
    True - Zionist Winston Churchill fire bombed German cities at wars end killing 0ver 150k civilians
    True - Under Ike over 1 ml Germans died in outdoor camps from starvation and exposure
    True - Gen. Eisenhower was responsible for over 1 mln. German deaths in POW camps after WW2
    True - General Patton was murdered because he was going to expose Eisenhower as a war criminal
    True - Hundreds of thousands of German females aged preteen to over 80 raped by allied soldiers True - German families were removed from homes and, titles given to Jews
    True - Nuremberg trials designed by Jews
    True - Nuremberg - German prisoners were severely tortured to gain false confessions
    True - No gas chambers - as proven by Ernst Zundel during his trial in Canada.
    True - Jews made up false stories of Jews being killed to make lampshades and soap
    True - Hitler was an artist with exceptional talent
    True - Hitler was a great man, a great patriot
    True - Holocaust - a term first used in late 1960s is a hoax to justify the persecution of Germany
    True - Anti Semitism was created by Jews
    True - Most anti Semitic crimes have been perpetrated by jews
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  132. renfro says:
    @Momus
    Holocaust deniers are sanctioned because the diminution of a genocide causes great offense to most people.

    If you think your last holocaust was bad wait till you see the next one…..there’s definitely one in your future.

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    Agree
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  133. geokat62 says:

    Excerpt from latest instalment from Philip Weiss:

    Maybe Israel is interfering in our politics over the Iran Deal? Naaah!

    You’d think the press might turn attention on Israel. It has been interfering in our foreign policy on the Iran Deal for a long time. And it has lots of friends in the U.S. who are only too happy to push Netanyahu’s agenda, beginning with some of Trump’s biggest donors.

    But no one connects the dots. Israel’s interference is not a story.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/05/israel-interfering-politics/

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  134. renfro says:

    TRUMP DUMPED THE IRAN AGREMENT

    From Col Pat Lang….

    ”Israel will now drive the US to war with Iran.”

    5314_Israeli%20flag%20-%20Templar1307

    “President Trump said Tuesday that the United States will withdraw from the landmark Iran nuclear agreement and re-impose sanctions on Tehran, a decision that angered allies who fear the prospect of a nuclear arms race in the heart of the Middle East.

    Declaring that “the decaying and the rotten structure” of the 2015 agreement does not block Iran from developing nuclear weapons, Trump said during a speech at the White House that “the Iran deal is defective at its core.”

    The decision drew criticism from Trump predecessor Barack Obama, who argued in a Facebook post that the deal is working and withdrawing from it is a serious mistake.

    “The United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East,” Obama said.” USA Today

    —————

    IMO Israel achieved a major victory today when the mentally limited US president, a man who cannot deal with complex phenomena, was herded by; the Israelis, their American Zionist allies and the chickenhawks now surrounding him across the goal line to withdrawal of the US from JCPOA.

    The imperialists (neocon faction) are SURE that Europe and Russia will kneel before the throne of Trump the First in his City on the Hill.

    The Israelis want the phantom menace of antisemitism crushed. The turn of Iran, Syria and Lebanon has now come for a “cleansing.” They want the Iranians made into a pastoral people who have no foreign policy at all.

    I am told that Israeli electronic counter-measure units started a massive jamming effort against air defense assets in Syria three days ago. Israeli ground forces on the Golan Front have been placed on high alert. IMO a false flag attack on Israel is likely. ”
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    Agree Trump is both intellectually and emotionally retarded a child controlled by the Jews. It's out in the open America is owned by the Jews - the world knew it but never suspected the full extant of the control. It's shameful that such a mighty nation is controlled by Jewish brain parasites. Really fucking shameful.
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  135. utu says:
    @Wally
    Yes, we know that they claim to be 'witnesses", but are in fact, liars ... for profit.

    The point being that what they actually say defies science or is in direct contradiction of other lies, they simply have not / cannot keep there stories straight.

    If so called "witnesse$' are the thing, then witchcraft is an established fact.
    There are countless "witnesses" to witchcraft, complete with testimonies in courts of law, testimonies that were accepted by 'great minds' / governments worldwide, with 'documents'.*

    Now, please give us the names of just THREE 'holocaust' "witnesses". Tell us specifically what they said, when they said it, and where.
    And watch as I demolish your nonsense.

    If you cite an alleged document, then please show us the original.

    * Witchcraft documents:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/ModestEnquiry.jpg/380px-ModestEnquiry.jpg

    http://www.danverslibrary.org/archive/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/CoverPage-785x1024.jpg

    https://i.pinimg.com/236x/da/db/57/dadb5702445044c031baf3f521b15a87--salem-witch-trials-antiques.jpg

    www.codoh.com

    Now, please give us the names of just THREE ‘holocaust’ “witnesses”. Tell us specifically what they said, when they said it, and where.

    And watch as I demolish your nonsense.

    Books by former Birkenau women inmates who spent living several years each in Birkenau just few hundreds of yards from crematories and the ramp where the transport were coming. Their books were published in Polish in 1945/1946 which later were translated in to many languages.

    Here are your three witnesses.

    Zofia Kossak, Seweryna Szmaglewska, Krystyna Zywulska

    The first two were Catholic and Zywulska was Jewish.

    They all describe gassing operation there which they knew from what they saw, from what other inmates told them and in some cases from what Sonderkommando told them.

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    No dodging, no weaseling out, utu

    Tell us exactly what they said. Not what you say they said.
    You don't even give us the names of their "books".

    Give us their own precise words as to this absurd "gassing operation".

    Tell us how these alleged 'gas chambers' supposedly worked.
    Show us the alleged Auschwitz remains of 1,250,00o Jews.

    Tell us what court they made they statements in.
    Produce the verbatim court transcripts, complete with cross examination text.

    And of course, we supposedly have these liars who curiously were not killed in 'death camp Auschwitz-Birkenau', the alleged mass murdering Germans just left them live so they tell their alleged stories.

    Your fake witnesses claims are no different that witchcraft "witnesses".

    Truly beyond hilarious.

    , @Wally
    Your weakly cited Zofia Kossak debunked here:

    Response to a Paper Historian
    By Robert Faurisson
    https://codoh.com/library/document/2148/?lang=en

    Your weakly cited Seweryna Szmaglewska debunked here:

    Alfred Wetzler and "The True Story of the Auschwitz Protocol"
    By Thomas Kues
    https://codoh.com/library/document/640/?lang=en

    Never heard of the other one, and do answer my challenges.

    www.codoh.com

    , @Grahamsno(G64)

    Books by former Birkenau women inmates
     
    Decisively prove that Birkenau the very epicenter of the alleged Shoah was not an extermination camp. Jesus we were led to believe that Hitler murdered every Jew he could lay his hands on and then we have these millions of survivors. How stupid have you to be to believe in this crap. Whatever happened to your bullshit detector?
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  136. @JoaoAlfaiate
    You've got to congratulate the people of South Carolina on their record of wise decisions and national leadership: Secession, firing on Fort Sumter, Nikki Haley and friends v. free speech.....

    Don’t forget they keep reelecting Israel worshipper and chickenhawk Lindsey Graham.

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    You mean 'Linda' Graham. (Wry grin)
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  137. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Arthur R. Butz, ´The hoax of the twentieth century, The case against the presumed extermination of European Jewry’, Costa Mesa CA, 1977, 1989

    Like many, Butz’ book was the first revisionist book I read. It convinced me.

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  138. Hunsdon says:
    @Momus
    The American Presidents Johnson and Nixon were satisfied with the Israeli explanation that they would not be the first to introduce nuclear weapons to the mid east. Successive administrations accept this declaration and are not interested in forcing them to join the IAEA.

    Fair enough too given the history of their persecution and the massive contributions of Jewish brainpower to America's bomb project and many prior and subsequent, scientific, medical, legal and industrial efforts.

    The rule of law is, you say, sort of optional then?

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    In extremis forgivably so.
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  139. And when there is definitive/credible support, I will certainly called for them to be held to account.

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  140. lavoisier says: • Website
    @animalogic
    A 90 year old woman must "serve a two-year-jail sentence for questioning the official narrative of the Jewish killings in World War II …"
    This is surreal. Liberal democracy (what's left of it) down the rabbit hole. Imprisonment as a consequence of questioning history ? Yes, I know, Germany has its ... sensitivities, but should historical guilt excuse a vicious assault on core values & a vulnerable individual ?

    Pretty disgusting behavior from the modern day German Bolsheviks.

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  141. @John Kirby
    There are TOO MANY HOLES in the official Holocaust story. Why would the Nazis transport Jews all the way to Auschwitz in Poland to kill them? Why use irritant cyanide gas (ZYKLON) when carbon monoxide from a badly ventilated stove would kill them painlessly in 15 minutes? Why were there 4.3 million survivors claiming compensation from Germany? Why did the Red Cross only give 272,000 as the total number of deaths in ALL the camps? Why was there a hospital, a pharmacy, a theatre, an orchestra, a choir, a library and a swimming pool and a soccer pitch at Auschwitz, in a death camp?

    There are no signs on wartime aerial photographs of the trainloads of coke that would have been required to incinerate millions of bodies? Why weren’t thousands of tons of ashes and bones ever found? The piles of bodies show emaciation typical of starvation and disease, things that would not have time to occur if people were being gassed on arrival. It was Typhus, dysentery and starvation that killed these people, because by 1944 allied bombing had destroyed the infrastructure of Germany.

    When there are so many inconsistencies in a scenario we SHOULD be skeptical.

    DOUBLE STANDARDS. The holocaust has been pounded into us for 70 years, but there is never a mention of the reign of terror conducted by the mainly Jewish Bolsheviks against the Russia people; 66 million dead (Solzhenitsyn). If most people knew about this it would stop the holier-than-thou-and-don’t-you-dare-criticize-us Jewish attitude. We are only allowed to say nice things about Jews. The story of the Holocaust was the main reason for the creation of Israel and the rise of Jewish Power, and we all, (but mostly the Palestinians), now have to live with the consequences of ethnocentric, racial supremacist and militaristic Jews subjugating the Palestinians and stealing their country, bit by bit.

    Hi John Kirby,

    WOW!

    My deep gratitude for your clear & strong thought.

    The only thing I add, & assume you know, is the commonality which a majority of American citizens share with besieged Palestinians.

    Americans also underwent gradual “subjugation” (by Jewish Power) until our Exceptional-Homeland was cunningly transformed into the Skull & Bones ZUS.

    Thank you very much!

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  142. Jews are NOT Gods chosen people. Sorry Pence..

    ‘Marching to Zion’ Official Full Film – Youtube

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  143. All y’all who are OCD about the camp-based unpleasantness of the 1940s really need to take a step back.

    I’m sure (since the source in unimpeachable) that everyone will be on board when the Red Sea Pedestrians seek compensation from Italy for the Vespasian Holocaust.

    For is it not written in Tractate Gittim 57b:

    this is the cry caused by the Emperor Vespasian who killed in the city of Bethar four hundred thousand myriads, or as some say, four thousand myriads

    Now to get a handle on how many people that is, we need go up a paragraph or twain, to establish that …

    “the Emperor Hadrian who killed in Alexandria of Egypt sixty myriads on sixty myriads, twice as many as went forth from Egypt(my emphasis)

    OK, so let’s see what 1 Egypt’s worth of Red Sea Pedestrians equals: there were “600,000 men on foot besides women and children” – according to another unimpeachable source… Exodus 12:37.

    Making some sensible demographic assumptions, e.g., a 50:50 sex ratio and a 20/80 child/adult split, gets us to 2×600,000×1.25 (2×600,000 gives us the total number of adults; mutliplying by 1.25 accounts for the kiddies)… 1,500,000 for those playing at home.

    Twice as many as that is 3 million.

    So we know that 120 myriads equals about 3 million people

    OK, so that is what 120 Myriads is.

    4 thousand myriads (the low estimate of the Vespasian Holocaust – the number promulgated by the Vespasian-Holocaust-Deniers) is 33⅓ times that – or bang-on 100 million people.

    4 hundred thousand myriads?

    That’s 100 billion people. 100 billion Jewish lives lost because of some Roman douchenozzle. In one city! The horror!

    How dare y’all bother the world with your lachrymose sentimentality – whether on behalf of the Red Sea Pedestrians of the 1940s, or on behalf of those trodden underfoot by laws against questioning the death toll of the time (or the means of despatch, or whether or not it was officially policy or was spread solely by super-secret pinkie-swear orders).

    For Yahweh’s sake – get your damn priorities right: 100 billion lives snuffed out, and no riveting first-person narratives survive.

    Now that’s grounds for reparations and compensation and what-not, surely?

    Anybody got any relatives who are prepared to declare that they were in Bethar at the time, but miraculously survived (eight or nine times) while being forced to fight a bear every single day?

    See, it’s shit like this that got me in trouble with the French authorities – well, that and the fact that I refer to their detention centres as ‘concentration camps’… I spent 2 weeks in one in 2008 and we had Duck Confit for dinner on Tuesdays – the Frogs refused to tell the Muzzies if it was halal, so I got to have about 6 cuisses each time. I put on 3kg.

    True story (the last paragraph is true anyhow).

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  144. J. N. says:

    They (and their UK-NATO friends) will try to use the EU to attack Iran.

    “Taking Down” British Officials”

    Israel conspires against the Mother of Parliaments

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/taking-down-british-officials/

    “Gibraltar: The Real Reason for Brexit Finally Revealed”

    “So it is no surprise to now find that there was a military dimension to Brexit few had noticed. Brexit should not affect the UK’s membership of NATO or its network of operational agreements with other countries, as the Common European Defence Force is not yet a reality.”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/gibraltar-the-real-reason-for-brexit-finally-revealed/5632486

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  145. As I write this comment pres. Trump has pulled out of the USA-Iran deal. The Jewish Neocons have triumphed, the conquest of America is blatant and undeniable, Once again the USA will go to war for greater Israel, the deplorable Christian goyim must go to fight and bleed for Zionist Israel while jews will remain unhurt, untouched, safely using the IDF to kill and massacre innocent UNarmed civilians and Palestinian children with chemicals weapons, snipers,etc. America will be involved in another endless war in the Middle East costing millions$$, much blood, and the consequences for the USA internal security will soon be evident. After canceling The USA/Iran deal the USA can NO longer be trusted to honor its contracts, its international treaties, why should NKorea trust the USA, India etc. The real power is the Zionist state of Israel not the White House, nor the USA Congress, not the people of the United States neither its constitution and related institutions. The Zio oligarchy financed by our tax money, corrupt financial mafias etc. The Democratic Constitutional Republic is dead, while the USA crumbles to the ground fiscally, economically, socially Israel will become the Technological universal global matrix capable to bring the world to a complete stop, the energy blood source of the world with nuclear capability aimed not only to the Muslim nations but targeting Wester Liberal (allied) nations. ALL of these thanks to isralei theft of American knowhow, industrial might, public taxes…America shall languished as Zio Israel murders, kills, bombs, its weaker neighbors…Can the jews vanquish the HUMAN (American puritan Christian) spirit thirst for truth, justice, the innate divine fire that burns deep into the human psyche/soul.???? can the JEWS become a prime target in every corner of the world??

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    Blocks of text are difficult to read.

    Use paragraphs.
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  146. @gwynedd1
    Don't you find it a little odd the Germans would use such an inefficient means to kill people like gassing them? Also odd that Ann Frank died of Typhus showing the exact reason why the pesticide was in use.

    But why gas people when starvation is so passively effective? All that "evidence" shows staved emaciated bodies. So people on the brink of starvation need to be gassed?

    Even German fighting units were starving:

    http://www.dererstezug.com/German_Rations_at_the_Front.htm

    "The Germans also attempted to develop individual combat rations similar to those used by the U.S. Army, such as “C” and “K” rations, but they never reached the level of perfection of the American’s packaged rations (For additional information on these rations, refer to the article: "German Iron Rations" by Doug Nash or "The German Army K-Ration" by Eric Tobey published on this website). This method of delivering individual rations was unsuccessful, due either to failures of the supply system to get these rations to the front, or that there simply were not enough on hand to issue to the troops on a regular basis when the normal method of issuing hot rations failed. Either way, the German food supply system was totally inadequate to properly sustain the fighting energy that the troops needed for this offensive campaign.

    So, as the campaign began, the German food supply system, including that of the 352nd VGD, was already unable to keep its Grenadiers adequately fed. As the Battle of the Bulge dragged on into January, the lack of proper nutrition, made worse by having to live out in the open during an uncharacteristically cold winter, took its physical and mental toll on the average Grenadier. Tired, hungry, cold, and forced to forage for his food, only a superman could have continued fighting with the same enthusiasm and effectiveness that the German forces displayed at the beginning of the offensive.
    "


    Jews were certainly captives and were forced into labor. However its pretty clear that as the captives they were they were likely to starve. The prison guards were probably starving at the end. All it would take is the last month or two of complete devastation to do this. The Germans of course made a colossal mistake . They were responsible for putting them in this position. They made the Jews helpless . If you cannot feed them...


    Well, I guess rounding people up and neglecting them due to being a loser in a war is not going to be the propaganda tool they are looking for because its all too common. Its just a too ordinary horror of war.


    http://thecatholicspirit.com/news/local-news/wwii-vet-recalls-ordeal-inside-german-prison-camp/

    "The initial interrogations soon gave way to the daily struggles and boredom of life in Stalag 17. The hardest part, he said, was the constant hunger. The men were fed only a warm cup of water in the morning, then one cup of barley soup around noon. At first, Velasquez did not want to eat the soup because it was full of worms. But, when it came down to a choice between eating it and starving, he chose to swallow his displeasure along with the worms."


    Imagine the US losing the war to Japan. I wonder how well fed those Japanese captives in US camps would be if there were food shortages? I doubt the US would have come off too well with starved Japanese.


    What really fucking pisses me off about the Holocaust propaganda machine is that it covers up the real conversation about how vulnerable a displaced people actually is. Most people think it takes gas chambers to kill people like this. All you need to do is move them and put them in camps in such a position that they are dependents. If anything goes wrong with supply or basic sanitation , people start dying.


    Staved and emaciated bodies just do not fit with gas chambers. However this should hopefully come as a warning to any ideas of putting people into camps. If they die it was still your responsibility.

    While I think the thrust of your comment shows an admirable understanding of some key facts –
    ① even if there was not a specific policy to exterminate Jews, specifically using lethal gas, it is wrong to intern people solely because their peak global representatives ‘declared war’ on your nation; and
    ② internment in camps results in very large logistics failures if you’re at the end of a lost war.

    So the wrongness of the German government’s actions is absolutely clear: it doesn’t matter if only five people died, those deaths are the result of a deplorable and unconscionable set of acts and policies, even if the policies themselves were not explicitly focused on extermination.
    .

    However I gasped when I got to your characterisation of life in a German WWII POW camp.

    You’ve clearly absorbed some invalid tropes from somewhere.

    If Hogan’s Heroes is anything to go by – and since it is a riveting live-action account, it is unimpeachable as a source – life for the inhabitants of Luft Stalag 13 was characterised by a series of japes and zingers, often at the expense of a visiting General or SS Oberleutnant. There was no starvation – in fact often the inmates were able to sneak out to nearby towns hand have a nice sit-down meal with wine and cheese.

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    The TV show was an exaggeration, of course, but there really were Hoganesque activities. My father was in an Oflag in Bavaria. No sit down wine & cheese, but there were passes (no need to sneak) to walk to the village and trade cigarettes or other Red Cross parcel items for fresh milk and eggs.
    , @Wally
    The Germans did only what the Allies did, and nothing that was not commonplace worldwide at the time.
    ex.: Recall the concentration camps for Japanese-Americans and those that died in them.

    " it doesn’t matter if only five people died, those deaths are the result of a deplorable and unconscionable set of acts and policies, even if the policies themselves were not explicitly focused on extermination."

    Absolutely wrong. Illegal Allied terror bombing & strafing of civilian transports prevented much needed medical & food supplies from reaching the German camps, not to mention the Allied air attacks on camps where the dead were blamed on the Germans, ex.: Nordhausen.
    Who started bombing civilians first:Germany or Great Britain
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8172

    And the numbers really do matter to Jews since the fake 6,000,ooo is an unhinged religious number that Jew have been lying about since at least 1823.
    The fake 6,000,000 number does matter. Jews promote the fake, but very specific, '6,000,000' nonstop, 24/7/365.
    It’s what supposedly makes fake Jew suffering ‘exceptional’ & 'incomparable' to other alleged ‘genocides.
    If anyone says 'it doesn't matter', then tell them to say that to the 'holocaus$t Industry'. Try going to many countries in Europe and saying that 6M were not killed, off to jail you go.
    You're getting there, keep reading, keep asking questions.

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1
    Cheers.
    www.codoh.com

    , @gwynedd1
    "even if there was not a specific policy to exterminate Jews, specifically using lethal gas, it is wrong to intern people solely because their peak global representatives ‘declared war’ on your nation; and"

    More or less that is the point I have made. Of course I do bristle at the idea that its entirely unprovoked. The Zionist movement did make a deal with the Allies. As I said Jews were playing a high stakes game of politics. This will always cost many in the rank and file. Most documentaries do not even mention it as if it came out of the blue.


    "internment in camps results in very large logistics failures if you’re at the end of a lost war."

    If you have internment camps , and resources become scarce in a war, indeed you may be held responsible for their demise.

    "Life for the inhabitants of Luft Stalag 13 was characterised by a series of japes and zingers, often at the expense of a visiting General or SS Oberleutnant. There was no starvation – in fact often the inmates were able to sneak out to nearby towns hand have a nice sit-down meal with wine and cheese."


    I don't think you have read what I have said very carefully. In 1945, Germans were starving. I did not say Germans were deliberately starving their servile labor. I also made the point that a pile of emaciated bodies, as evidence of extermination camps is laughable. Gassing people does not make them weigh 80 lbs. Clearly people were starving. All it would take is the last few months.

    I did not stress this point much. Many Jews were happy with the arrangement. Being separated from the society is how Jewish leaders kept their flocks. That is one reason why the ordinary Jew found themselves so easily ensnared. Many Jews like this ghetto idea.


    The gas chambers is rather important I suppose to several camps. If the Germans just had internment camps then we begin to look much like them. The good vs evil of WWII loses much of its mystique and with it the unifying force it creates. American GIs were the good guys...

    Jews are not the only ones that value this myth.

    Speaking of that, Russia is very much like Israel in this regard. The biggest unifying cultural ideal in Russia is the great war . Its their source of pride. In their case however they really were starved deliberately.
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  147. Wally says:
    @utu

    Now, please give us the names of just THREE ‘holocaust’ “witnesses”. Tell us specifically what they said, when they said it, and where.

    And watch as I demolish your nonsense.
     
    Books by former Birkenau women inmates who spent living several years each in Birkenau just few hundreds of yards from crematories and the ramp where the transport were coming. Their books were published in Polish in 1945/1946 which later were translated in to many languages.

    Here are your three witnesses.

    Zofia Kossak, Seweryna Szmaglewska, Krystyna Zywulska
     
    The first two were Catholic and Zywulska was Jewish.

    They all describe gassing operation there which they knew from what they saw, from what other inmates told them and in some cases from what Sonderkommando told them.

    No dodging, no weaseling out, utu

    Tell us exactly what they said. Not what you say they said.
    You don’t even give us the names of their “books”.

    Give us their own precise words as to this absurd “gassing operation”.

    Tell us how these alleged ‘gas chambers’ supposedly worked.
    Show us the alleged Auschwitz remains of 1,250,00o Jews.

    Tell us what court they made they statements in.
    Produce the verbatim court transcripts, complete with cross examination text.

    And of course, we supposedly have these liars who curiously were not killed in ‘death camp Auschwitz-Birkenau’, the alleged mass murdering Germans just left them live so they tell their alleged stories.

    Your fake witnesses claims are no different that witchcraft “witnesses”.

    Truly beyond hilarious.

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    And of course, we supposedly have these liars who curiously were not killed in ‘death camp Auschwitz-Birkenau’, the alleged mass murdering Germans just left them live so they tell their alleged stories.
     
    Yes Yes Yes 6 trillion dead and 5 trillion survivors you can't make this shit up, the most absurd lie ever told.
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  148. Wally says:
    @utu

    Now, please give us the names of just THREE ‘holocaust’ “witnesses”. Tell us specifically what they said, when they said it, and where.

    And watch as I demolish your nonsense.
     
    Books by former Birkenau women inmates who spent living several years each in Birkenau just few hundreds of yards from crematories and the ramp where the transport were coming. Their books were published in Polish in 1945/1946 which later were translated in to many languages.

    Here are your three witnesses.

    Zofia Kossak, Seweryna Szmaglewska, Krystyna Zywulska
     
    The first two were Catholic and Zywulska was Jewish.

    They all describe gassing operation there which they knew from what they saw, from what other inmates told them and in some cases from what Sonderkommando told them.

    Your weakly cited Zofia Kossak debunked here:

    Response to a Paper Historian
    By Robert Faurisson

    https://codoh.com/library/document/2148/?lang=en

    Your weakly cited Seweryna Szmaglewska debunked here:

    Alfred Wetzler and “The True Story of the Auschwitz Protocol”
    By Thomas Kues

    https://codoh.com/library/document/640/?lang=en

    Never heard of the other one, and do answer my challenges.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  149. @El Dato
    Wow, double cheeseburger holocaust-denial crankery (the psychological need for this I will never understand) actually demaning "revisionism or STFU" (really!) and then extra-bacon ultra-weird anglo-saxon-puritanism crankery (I don't understand the psychological need for this even less nor does it even make sense to me at all, I didn't know the War of the Roses was going on in 21st century and anyway who gives a fuck) in the first post.

    What the fracking hell.

    Are you on drugs fucking incoherent idiot.

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  150. Them Guys says:
    @anarchyst
    Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant, to which I reply, “God is not a real estate agent”.
    Jews rejected the covenant when they murdered Jesus Christ. Their covenant with God was then “null and void”.
    It is the flawed Schofield translation of the Bible that elevated jews to the status of Christianity’s “elder brothers”, which was then reinforced by the Catholic (flawed) “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” in the 1960s.
    I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage.
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    The only common thread between Christianity and judaism is the Ten Commandments–nothing more.
    The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.
    Christianity welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status–not true of judaism.
    Judaism is an insular belief system that shuns outsiders, prohibits proselytization, and promotes a form of supremacy, relegating all gentiles (non-jews) to the status of livestock–subhumans with souls, only to be used for the advancement and benefit of jews.
    Jews DID murder Jesus Christ. Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder. As always is the case, the jews got others, the Romans to do their dirty work for them–the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. How can Christians have the same values as the Jews; the very people who denounced and betrayed the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, and call for his execution (by others, of course, that is the Jewish way). It makes absolutely no sense at all. Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.
    It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel’s wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.

    Yes I last year read an article with excerpts direct from the two jewish lezbo “professors” that invented this new Myth aka new scam swindle promotion and they stated that todays small 4-5 yr old jewy kiddies being reported to awaken from a sound sleep many night’s, and parents are horrified to learn from child that. Oy Vehy! Little 4-5 yr old shlomo has had another vivid dream nightmare of being forced into Gas chamber by evil Nazis and gassed to death!!……This the two fraudulent professor lezbo jews claim as…”Newly discovered…wait for it!….Memory-Genes!!!!!! and that ONLY jew kids inherit such memory genes due to the facts that….Jews are special, and Chozens and have much higher IQ’s so that all combines to create “jewish Only memory genes”.

    Of Course this is the main reason grandkids and great grandkids of not only actual camper-jews from wwii era, deserve reperations $$$$ Cashola fom Germany….But these two “Expert Psycho Bablers insist also that jew kiddies inherit memory genes from Other Unrealated jews that were wwii camp dead and camp survivors the kids never ever met or knew of nor heard of!!!

    Read it again folks!…Jew kids now inherit memory genes, from old dead jews UNrelated genitically and jews the kids never heard of etc!

    When asked to explain How its remotely possible?…Basically the two frauds dodged it and said something like…”Well due to Us jews is so special and gods chozens it is likely a Miracle from god that such memory gene inheritences ONLY apply to jews..”

    Just zero end to jew invented methods of scams eh.

    Now as to some more bible and jewish falsehoods…

    Virtually Every or close to every of todays pastors of the aprox 300,000 usa protestant et al pastors, preach and teach what 99.9% of jewry claims.

    That the wailers Wall usa congress and usa prez as well as jew males and rabbis wear a jew cap and Bang their Head against that wall…as being the last only remains of the jew 2nd Temple etc..

    Is 100% Total Falsehood since that Wailers Wall is all that remains of the Orig. Roman Fort Wall erected to protect Roman soldiers and citizens in Jerusalem from vicious riotous murdering violence jews kept doing to romans, back in and prior to christs days.

    That Roman Fort was called Fortress Antonias (or close to that).

    And Ironic how the same apostate preachers who teach it same as jews claim as all that’s left standing of 2nd temple etc….Also teach that Jesus’ Prophecy of warning jews there that EVERY stone in/of 2nd temple would be wrecked ruined and “Not a single stone be left standing Upon another stone once wrecked”

    The preachers All agree fully that Christ prophecy Was fulfilled as stated in 70 A.D.

    Ok so How is it that still standing Wall jews worship and pray to is remains of that temple if Christ was correct?

    Them jews and rabbis Pray to an Old Roman Fort Wall!…that has ZERO to do with any 2nd temple period…Just one more fraud claim to convince worlds goys to worship jewry and Israel by them self chozen wall/$$$/self-worshipers eh.

    What do foolish royally duped Christians and non Christians not as Yet Get?

    I feel like that Laughing Mexican and I aint even Mexican!

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  151. @Wally
    I've been to Disneyland and the evidence is overwhelming that Mickey Mouse is real.

    Tons of healthy Jews 'extermination camp Auschwitz' * at time of 'liberation':
    http://fcit.coedu.usf.edu/holocaust/PICS31/66935a.jpg
    http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/PICS31/85600.jpg
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J2jpuEZojE0/VONvKRjmXCI/AAAAAAAABX8/-GG_ralfWJA/s1600/Auschwitz.jpg

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where thousands of Jews chose to be left behind when the Germans left.

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where most of the inmates, more thousands, chose to leave WITH the Germans.

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where 1,250,000 human remains are supposedly buried, but no one can show us these remains.

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where the absurdly alleged homicidal 'gas chambers' could not have worked as alleged, as proven repeatedly, scientifically.

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where fake 'gas chambers' were "reconstructed" AFTER THE WAR.

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where detailed aerial photos of the period show nothing that is alleged to have been happening.

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where there are even obvious, laughable attempts to tamper with aerial photos that make a mockery of the fake storyline.
    see:
    'Auschwitz Aerial photos, tampered with to fit the fake story'
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11669&p=87558

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where there were / are countless Jew "survivors".

    * 'Extermination camp Auschwitz' where so called "survivors" say the most impossible and conflicting things that do not hold up to scrutiny, would be laughed out of a legit court of law.

    www.codoh.com

    Wally,

    It’s a fake cult with these people notice how they never reply to cold hard technical questions posed by us. They’re a bunch of true believers of this absurd fairy tale where 6 million were magically teleported to another parallel universe without leaving any trace. The greatest alien abduction story ever.

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  152. @renfro
    TRUMP DUMPED THE IRAN AGREMENT


    From Col Pat Lang....


    ''Israel will now drive the US to war with Iran.''

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    "President Trump said Tuesday that the United States will withdraw from the landmark Iran nuclear agreement and re-impose sanctions on Tehran, a decision that angered allies who fear the prospect of a nuclear arms race in the heart of the Middle East.

    Declaring that "the decaying and the rotten structure" of the 2015 agreement does not block Iran from developing nuclear weapons, Trump said during a speech at the White House that "the Iran deal is defective at its core."

    The decision drew criticism from Trump predecessor Barack Obama, who argued in a Facebook post that the deal is working and withdrawing from it is a serious mistake.

    "The United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East," Obama said." USA Today

    ---------------

    IMO Israel achieved a major victory today when the mentally limited US president, a man who cannot deal with complex phenomena, was herded by; the Israelis, their American Zionist allies and the chickenhawks now surrounding him across the goal line to withdrawal of the US from JCPOA.

    The imperialists (neocon faction) are SURE that Europe and Russia will kneel before the throne of Trump the First in his City on the Hill.

    The Israelis want the phantom menace of antisemitism crushed. The turn of Iran, Syria and Lebanon has now come for a "cleansing." They want the Iranians made into a pastoral people who have no foreign policy at all.


    I am told that Israeli electronic counter-measure units started a massive jamming effort against air defense assets in Syria three days ago. Israeli ground forces on the Golan Front have been placed on high alert. IMO a false flag attack on Israel is likely. ''
    pl

    Agree Trump is both intellectually and emotionally retarded a child controlled by the Jews. It’s out in the open America is owned by the Jews – the world knew it but never suspected the full extant of the control. It’s shameful that such a mighty nation is controlled by Jewish brain parasites. Really fucking shameful.

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  153. RobinG says:
    @Kratoklastes
    While I think the thrust of your comment shows an admirable understanding of some key facts -
    ① even if there was not a specific policy to exterminate Jews, specifically using lethal gas, it is wrong to intern people solely because their peak global representatives 'declared war' on your nation; and
    ② internment in camps results in very large logistics failures if you're at the end of a lost war.

    So the wrongness of the German government's actions is absolutely clear: it doesn't matter if only five people died, those deaths are the result of a deplorable and unconscionable set of acts and policies, even if the policies themselves were not explicitly focused on extermination.
    .

    However I gasped when I got to your characterisation of life in a German WWII POW camp.

    You've clearly absorbed some invalid tropes from somewhere.

    If Hogan's Heroes is anything to go by - and since it is a riveting live-action account, it is unimpeachable as a source - life for the inhabitants of Luft Stalag 13 was characterised by a series of japes and zingers, often at the expense of a visiting General or SS Oberleutnant. There was no starvation - in fact often the inmates were able to sneak out to nearby towns hand have a nice sit-down meal with wine and cheese.

    The TV show was an exaggeration, of course, but there really were Hoganesque activities. My father was in an Oflag in Bavaria. No sit down wine & cheese, but there were passes (no need to sneak) to walk to the village and trade cigarettes or other Red Cross parcel items for fresh milk and eggs.

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  154. Them Guys says:
    @Momus
    Overwhelming evidence for the holocaust. For every denier there are a thousand witnesses.

    Is Momus really Elli May married to her brother Jethro from tv hillbillies?

    Or…Really that jew woman survivah who claimed she was able to get an accurate official count of how many jews got tossed into Ovens at her camp….Via the process of viewing and smelling the creamation oven chimney smoke?….She claims that it was possible due to when a jewish body alive or dead was turned to ash in 10-12 Min!….The chimney smoke she saw had a Different Color and smelled much Sweeter compared to smoke from goy gentile bodies!!!

    She was able to secretly sit near a door to her camps quarters with a tiny crack in doors wood so to view and smell that smoke as it wafted past her dorm!

    Hence she discovered jewish burned bodies give off a totally Different Color and Smell within the smoke emitted due to Oven burned bodies. Per her count Nazis tossed something like 200,000 jews into ovens per Month if I recall correct.

    Question that or her and off to hard time prisons for 3-5 yrs eh!

    My Other Favorite factual truth jew claim is that Nazis Made Soap from jewish body Fat!

    Jew sez: “OyVehy See Dat Pile in da ditch of dem 5000 dead jewish bodies…Dat weighs just 70 lbs due to Starvations and disease?…..Vell ders da Proof cuz dem evil Nazis used dem dead jews to make jew fat soap from”!

    Ok jew so tell us all….If dead jews starved down to only 70 Lbs….Where the fuck did that jew FAT come from eh?

    Oh and pray tell Us all…Just because a ditch contains 5000 or 2000 or any number dead bodies…..How can you be certain it is dead jews?….Did Nazis Stamp or Tatoo a huge “J” on their Ass or what?

    Question: If worlds Most skilled expert mass murder machine of Hitler & Nazis were so intent on eliminating every jew asap fast as can…and being meticulous detail freaks as germans were/are. Then why would they first give every jew a Haircut and brand New matching striped PJ’s to wear while standing in line awaiting their turn in the gas chamber? That gas chamber with a Reg house window in a side wall of chamber the Nazis Forgot to Lock and made it possible for, was it famed Eli Weazel (?) to escape being gassed 9- Times from ages 6yrs old to age 9 yrs old by holding his breath when gas poured out shower heads and dragging 150+ LB dead jew bodies over to below unlocked window where Small 6-to-9 yr old jewboy could then Climb Up piled dead bodies and escape Gas?

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    Reducing your medication is my advise.
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  155. @Wally
    No dodging, no weaseling out, utu

    Tell us exactly what they said. Not what you say they said.
    You don't even give us the names of their "books".

    Give us their own precise words as to this absurd "gassing operation".

    Tell us how these alleged 'gas chambers' supposedly worked.
    Show us the alleged Auschwitz remains of 1,250,00o Jews.

    Tell us what court they made they statements in.
    Produce the verbatim court transcripts, complete with cross examination text.

    And of course, we supposedly have these liars who curiously were not killed in 'death camp Auschwitz-Birkenau', the alleged mass murdering Germans just left them live so they tell their alleged stories.

    Your fake witnesses claims are no different that witchcraft "witnesses".

    Truly beyond hilarious.

    And of course, we supposedly have these liars who curiously were not killed in ‘death camp Auschwitz-Birkenau’, the alleged mass murdering Germans just left them live so they tell their alleged stories.

    Yes Yes Yes 6 trillion dead and 5 trillion survivors you can’t make this shit up, the most absurd lie ever told.

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  156. Wally says:
    @Kratoklastes
    While I think the thrust of your comment shows an admirable understanding of some key facts -
    ① even if there was not a specific policy to exterminate Jews, specifically using lethal gas, it is wrong to intern people solely because their peak global representatives 'declared war' on your nation; and
    ② internment in camps results in very large logistics failures if you're at the end of a lost war.

    So the wrongness of the German government's actions is absolutely clear: it doesn't matter if only five people died, those deaths are the result of a deplorable and unconscionable set of acts and policies, even if the policies themselves were not explicitly focused on extermination.
    .

    However I gasped when I got to your characterisation of life in a German WWII POW camp.

    You've clearly absorbed some invalid tropes from somewhere.

    If Hogan's Heroes is anything to go by - and since it is a riveting live-action account, it is unimpeachable as a source - life for the inhabitants of Luft Stalag 13 was characterised by a series of japes and zingers, often at the expense of a visiting General or SS Oberleutnant. There was no starvation - in fact often the inmates were able to sneak out to nearby towns hand have a nice sit-down meal with wine and cheese.

    The Germans did only what the Allies did, and nothing that was not commonplace worldwide at the time.
    ex.: Recall the concentration camps for Japanese-Americans and those that died in them.

    ” it doesn’t matter if only five people died, those deaths are the result of a deplorable and unconscionable set of acts and policies, even if the policies themselves were not explicitly focused on extermination.”

    Absolutely wrong. Illegal Allied terror bombing & strafing of civilian transports prevented much needed medical & food supplies from reaching the German camps, not to mention the Allied air attacks on camps where the dead were blamed on the Germans, ex.: Nordhausen.
    Who started bombing civilians first:Germany or Great Britain

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8172

    And the numbers really do matter to Jews since the fake 6,000,ooo is an unhinged religious number that Jew have been lying about since at least 1823.
    The fake 6,000,000 number does matter. Jews promote the fake, but very specific, ’6,000,000′ nonstop, 24/7/365.
    It’s what supposedly makes fake Jew suffering ‘exceptional’ & ‘incomparable’ to other alleged ‘genocides.
    If anyone says ‘it doesn’t matter’, then tell them to say that to the ‘holocaus$t Industry’. Try going to many countries in Europe and saying that 6M were not killed, off to jail you go.
    You’re getting there, keep reading, keep asking questions.

    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    Cheers.
    http://www.codoh.com

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  157. @utu

    Now, please give us the names of just THREE ‘holocaust’ “witnesses”. Tell us specifically what they said, when they said it, and where.

    And watch as I demolish your nonsense.
     
    Books by former Birkenau women inmates who spent living several years each in Birkenau just few hundreds of yards from crematories and the ramp where the transport were coming. Their books were published in Polish in 1945/1946 which later were translated in to many languages.

    Here are your three witnesses.

    Zofia Kossak, Seweryna Szmaglewska, Krystyna Zywulska
     
    The first two were Catholic and Zywulska was Jewish.

    They all describe gassing operation there which they knew from what they saw, from what other inmates told them and in some cases from what Sonderkommando told them.

    Books by former Birkenau women inmates

    Decisively prove that Birkenau the very epicenter of the alleged Shoah was not an extermination camp. Jesus we were led to believe that Hitler murdered every Jew he could lay his hands on and then we have these millions of survivors. How stupid have you to be to believe in this crap. Whatever happened to your bullshit detector?

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    There were also "witnesses" to the several "gassings" the Syrian government has been accused of during the imposed war on Syria.

    "utu" must believe in those as well...

    Actually, 'utu' is merely a lying little troll, who is on record here at Unz stating that propaganda(lying) is ok if it advances one's goals, as long as one can get away with it...

    The insect is virulently against holocau$t revisionism and has ridiculously tried to organize a 'petition' to get 'wally' banned from the Unz webzine.
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    utool disbelieves the 6M number. Rather, he believes the actual number was around 5.9M. I’m sure you can appreciate the subtlety of his position.
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  158. anonymous[721] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonomy
    It would be nice to see the Muslims and other foreigners out of our politics as well as our country. They have lobby groups too just for their special interests and to build nations and spread their religion that with the liberals help they get to do the Christians by force. I don't want to live in their nations with them for a reason. I'm also sick of the Palestinians who come here to try and sucker us into fighting for them "over there"!
    Antiwar shouldn't mean everyone but Israel.

    By all means, deport them. Do it today.

    Then get your psycho-necrophiliac terrorist dads/sons off our lands, and in every perverse way you control those lands (starve, bomb, etc.). Deal?

    No? Then, white self-genocide is the solution, baby.

    I’m also sick of the Palestinians who come here to try and sucker us into fighting for them “over there”

    Er, what? You must be one of those IQ70 white trash I keep hearing about.

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  159. anonymous[721] • Disclaimer says:
    @George Taylor

    @Thomm
    Or, it could just be that Unz believes in Aristotle’s theory that adopting intellectual virtues is the best way to get to the truth.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_virtue
     
    Wait your saying if there are two explanations for something, the simpler one is usually better. That maybe it's not a sophiscated 4D chess match. There should be a name for this concept, like Occam's razor or something.

    Exactly!

    Now, let’s try and apply this to, Spirituality… Why? Because it still plays an important part in human civilisation.

    There are those on the one side, let’s call them the Pagan Polytheists, who state that God is this human-like figure, who presumably has human-like physiological characteristics (brain, heart,…), who then presumably has to go through a whole host of human-like experiences, like, ageing, hunger (if not, why eat, as pagan imagery shows?), which should lead to certain bodily functions, and most perplexing of all… Death!!

    Then there are the others, let’s call them the True Monotheists, who state that if you indeed believe in a Higher Being, that this Being cannot be anything but… One, Infinite, Unique. Certainly, no “human-like” ideological nonsense allowed anywhere near.

    Which definition of a Higher Being, satisfies this so-called, Occam’s razor?

    Of course, this argument should apply only to theists, so others…

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  160. Realist says:
    @Scripted Reality
    The USA is chosen to fight for a small country.
    Who is ruling the US?
    Which country has so much pressure and lobby-groups to control US-politics via media?
    For example if Russia would have the same possibilities....like AIPAC, media power, moneymen etc.
    What would happen if Iran does a similar USS Liberty thing?

    Funny to see, when Nethayahu speaks in front of the Congress, US-Politicians give a lot of standing ovations and those politicians who did not stand up fast were been critiziced for a "lack of motivation" from the media.

    Excellent points.

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  161. @Momus
    Holocaust deniers are sanctioned because the diminution of a genocide causes great offense to most people.

    Holocaust deniers are sanctioned because the diminution of a genocide causes great offense to most people.

    No, it is because New left/globalist ideology has consecrated Jews as their sacred cows & hallowed them as their ideological backbone.

    Most people care only about their victims, Ukrainians for Ukrainians, Russians for Russians, Japanese for Japanese …and don’t give a hoot about others.

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    Jews are a special case because of the relative numbers killed and because of their massively disproportionate contribution to the greater good of mankind.
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  162. Rogue says:
    @Henry Thoreau
    As I write this comment pres. Trump has pulled out of the USA-Iran deal. The Jewish Neocons have triumphed, the conquest of America is blatant and undeniable, Once again the USA will go to war for greater Israel, the deplorable Christian goyim must go to fight and bleed for Zionist Israel while jews will remain unhurt, untouched, safely using the IDF to kill and massacre innocent UNarmed civilians and Palestinian children with chemicals weapons, snipers,etc. America will be involved in another endless war in the Middle East costing millions$$, much blood, and the consequences for the USA internal security will soon be evident. After canceling The USA/Iran deal the USA can NO longer be trusted to honor its contracts, its international treaties, why should NKorea trust the USA, India etc. The real power is the Zionist state of Israel not the White House, nor the USA Congress, not the people of the United States neither its constitution and related institutions. The Zio oligarchy financed by our tax money, corrupt financial mafias etc. The Democratic Constitutional Republic is dead, while the USA crumbles to the ground fiscally, economically, socially Israel will become the Technological universal global matrix capable to bring the world to a complete stop, the energy blood source of the world with nuclear capability aimed not only to the Muslim nations but targeting Wester Liberal (allied) nations. ALL of these thanks to isralei theft of American knowhow, industrial might, public taxes...America shall languished as Zio Israel murders, kills, bombs, its weaker neighbors...Can the jews vanquish the HUMAN (American puritan Christian) spirit thirst for truth, justice, the innate divine fire that burns deep into the human psyche/soul.???? can the JEWS become a prime target in every corner of the world??

    Blocks of text are difficult to read.

    Use paragraphs.

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  163. @Andrew E. Mathis
    What would be the point? You’ll just repeat the same five things all over again.

    You’ll just repeat the same five things all over again.

    Something wrong with that?

    You don’t know repetition until you’ve heard about “da poysekyooshun of de Chewz,” who are nevertheless, all high IQ and “Chosen,” and way superior to us dumb goyim.

    How many millenia have we all been subjected to that hysterical, mythological, palilalia?

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  164. Momus says:
    @jacques sheete

    I have been to Auschwitz and other sites.
     
    So what? You think that confers some level of expertise or credibility? Wrong on both counts.

    I've never been to any of those places and intend to never go. Either way, I'd have a hard time believing anything you or the multitudes of other lying holocaust conspiracy theorists would say about it.

    You are making the extraordinary claim by denying the holocaust.
    It is incumbent on you to demonstrate the veracity of what you say; not for anyone to ‘prove’ the holocaust.

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    You are making the extraordinary claim by denying the holocaust.
     
    There is no "The" holocaust. There are many that we never hear about while the one endlessly brayed about is evidently full of holes.

    It is incumbent on you to demonstrate the veracity of what you say; not for anyone to ‘prove’ the holocaust.
     
    I call BS on that. Elementary logic tells us that the onus probandi is on the one who makes the claim that something existed or happened so it's up to you to substantiate your claims about "The" holocaust.

    Until then its only a figment of inveterate liars embellished by egocentric,sociopathic hysterics until it's become a veritable religion in itself. A victimology cult. As such it's as mockable and it is risible. It's also highly irritating to have the mythology rammed in our faces 25/8/ 365 for decades, while it's parent, the victim schtick has been around for millenia.

    Enough, already. Grow up and get with the program, please!

    , @jilles dykstra
    Nobody denied or denies that in WWII jews were persecuted, killed near their homes, deported, or died in concentration camps.
    The discussion is whether people were killed in large numbers in gas chambers, by the insecticide Zyklon B.
    This discussion is most extraordinary, because reading a few books gives, in my opinion, the answer to if there were or were not gas chambers for people.
    These books also explain why most people, that entered concentration camps, died after some six months.
    Gas chambers for delousing clothes by Zyklon B were all over E Europe in WWII, where typhoid is endemic, and lice carry the disease.
    Delousing clothes took an hour and a half, see the last mentioned book.

    Richard Overy, ‘Interrogations, the Nazi elite in Allied hands, 1945’, London 2001

    Elie Wiesel, 'La Nuit', 1958, 2007

    Léon Poliakov, 'Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs', 1951, 1974, Paris

    Arthur R. Butz, ´The hoax of the twentieth century, The case against the presumed extermination of European Jewry’, Costa Mesa CA, 1977, 1989

    Raul Hilberg, ‘The destruction of the European Jews’, student edition, Teaneck, 1985

    Paul Rassinier, ´Was ist Wahrheit ?, Die Juden und das Dritte Reich´, Leoni am Starnberger See, 7th printing, 1981 (Le véritable procès Eichmann ou les vainqueurs incorrigibles, 1963; The Real Eichmann Trial or the Incorrigible Victors. ISBN: 0911038485, 1983)

    Eugen Kogon, ‘Der SS-Staat, Das System der deutschen Konzentrationslager’, 1974, München

    J.G. Burg, Schuld und Schicksal, Europas Juden zwischen Henkern und Heuchlern, München, 1962

    Otto Weidinger, ´Kameraden bis zum Ende, Das SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 4 „Der Führer“, 1978, 2007, Dresden
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  165. Momus says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Holocaust deniers are sanctioned because the diminution of a genocide causes great offense to most people.
     
    No, it is because New left/globalist ideology has consecrated Jews as their sacred cows & hallowed them as their ideological backbone.

    Most people care only about their victims, Ukrainians for Ukrainians, Russians for Russians, Japanese for Japanese ...and don't give a hoot about others.

    Jews are a special case because of the relative numbers killed and because of their massively disproportionate contribution to the greater good of mankind.

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    More Gypsies than Jews were killed re relative numbers; and, it is highly unlikely than most people would think that 20 million is somehow "less" than 5 million just because the first number represents lower percentage of the targeted group.

    As for contribution to the greater good, Germans ("Aryans") have been even more massively represented in past 200 years, from Gauss & Beethoven to Diesel and Heisenberg, and nobody seems to care- much.

    The election of Jews to the special victim status is confluence of a few factors:

    * resurgence of Jewish ethnic nationalism after victories in 1967 war & dis-assimilation of Jews in the Western world. One should just compare the number of holo themed movies before & after 1967.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Holocaust_films

    * dominant influence of US culture & media after 1960s and, as a result, promotion of Jewish ethnic concerns & interests which are over-represented in American popular culture & media

    * dominance of New Left ideology in past few decades among Western socio-cultural elites, in the form which is known, rather clumsily, as "Cultural Marxism". In practice, this ideology clearly demonizes everything white-European-male, and Jews, although not favored pets like blacks or Muslims or ugly women, get their extras as a historical non-European victim group. The chief enemy, according to this world-view, is any kind of white ethnic nationalism (Russian, French, German, Greek,..), while other nationalisms & ethnic animuses are generally applauded- especially if they're anti- Euro-white-male.

    As an aside, there is an idolization of all kinds of minorities.

    , @Art
    Jews are a special case because of the relative numbers killed and because of their massively disproportionate contribution to the greater good of mankind.

    You mean like the contribution of communism – 100’s of millions of people lived poor unfree lives because of the ideas of the Jew – Marx. Millions died under the tyranny of the commies. Marx traded one yoke for an ever more crushing yoke.

    When it comes to knowledge of human affairs, Jews always get it wrong. They always see the dark side of humanity. They make laws to crush the bad – but it never works. The more laws that exist, the more dysfunctional the society is. Commie Russia and China had a million laws and regulations against freedom and human nature itself.

    The only way forward is to see the bright and productive side of the human spirit and to pursue that. The idealism of philosophical Christianity does that better than any other thought system.

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Maintain Hope --- Art
    , @Wally
    You cannot be serious. WTF?

    You're beyond indoctrinated.

    www.codoh.com
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  166. Momus says:
    @Hunsdon
    The rule of law is, you say, sort of optional then?

    In extremis forgivably so.

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    Here's my problem. The consequences of the holocaust have not created a people sensitive to the plight of others. What happens as routine in Palestine is not the in any connected to the holocaust. The holocaust does not excuse excessive and illegal behavior by Israel. The use of the holocaust to cover abuse doesn't garner much support. WWII is long and gone. I can certainly honor the holocaust dead and suffered, argue for such to never happen again and still hold Israel to account.

    If people want tie themselves in not arguing the holocaust, so be it. My concern is that my country is being asked to condone Israel's behavior today.

    She has no business in Syria fomenting violence. And let's not pretend Israel's innocence here. That's why discussions about the holocaust should be kept in their proper place. I reject the smoke screening. It's like the person who gets arrested for stealing, using their skin color as a defense and the discrimination of the US -- sure, the US has a history, but how that links to their stealing is another matter.

    I am keenly aware of the very thin threads that Jews have been making that the Arab world partnered with Germany in the holocaust.. And the reason they are making those claims is to justify abuse today. In fact, Israel and Jews love to have the discussions with those who challenge the Holocaust. That discussion, just fuels the smoke screening. And Jews love to blow up those small numbers as a global cause despite its irrelevance. By ballooning, you make anyone who challenges Israeli behavior into a denier and that -- to silence critics. It's dishonest, abusive, and a bold faced lie. But the fear of sanctioning is a very powerful persuader, save for people who have experienced sanction by Jews , by Israelis, by Muslims, by blacks, by whites, by their own . . .


    No sale.
    , @EliteCommInc.
    The expense that the US has paid Israel and continues to pay is compensation enough for her role in the holocaust -- which is nil. And the sacrifice of millions of US citizens to that end is in my view more than just compensation.

    Israel had one mission -- love the lord their God. And in so doing be a light unto the nations. Uhhh no, the law is not suspended because of the holocaust. The US can continue to bless Israel's by defending her without supporting or condoning her violations of the law. If that is the suggestion, it's over the top given 75 years out.

    This is not the world of ancient Egypt and Sumeria where land conquest is the means. In the US millions of christians scream about law and order and then proceed to toss it when it suits their desires, such seems to be the case with Israel. I am an absolute believer in the supernatural, which is why, I find christian who excuse everything Israel does as peculiar, because surely there;s a level of trust in providence to provide that Israel seems to be lacking and the same christians as well. And the idea that christians are subservient to the secular state of Israel --- seems to me that christians instead would pressing for more christian like behavior from Israel for the sacrifices being made -- starting with adhering to to the international law and participating as a member of the nations. In my view, she can retain her "special" condition and behave accordingly.

    But this is a discussion US citizens must have with each other. But in my view, even on a biblical level Israel's behavior with regard to the laws in the region -- your contend ---

    By holocaust deniers you mean anyone like me who doesn't bow to a carte balnche pass of Israeli behavior.


    No sale.

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  167. @Momus
    Jews are a special case because of the relative numbers killed and because of their massively disproportionate contribution to the greater good of mankind.

    More Gypsies than Jews were killed re relative numbers; and, it is highly unlikely than most people would think that 20 million is somehow “less” than 5 million just because the first number represents lower percentage of the targeted group.

    As for contribution to the greater good, Germans (“Aryans”) have been even more massively represented in past 200 years, from Gauss & Beethoven to Diesel and Heisenberg, and nobody seems to care- much.

    The election of Jews to the special victim status is confluence of a few factors:

    * resurgence of Jewish ethnic nationalism after victories in 1967 war & dis-assimilation of Jews in the Western world. One should just compare the number of holo themed movies before & after 1967.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Holocaust_films

    * dominant influence of US culture & media after 1960s and, as a result, promotion of Jewish ethnic concerns & interests which are over-represented in American popular culture & media

    * dominance of New Left ideology in past few decades among Western socio-cultural elites, in the form which is known, rather clumsily, as “Cultural Marxism”. In practice, this ideology clearly demonizes everything white-European-male, and Jews, although not favored pets like blacks or Muslims or ugly women, get their extras as a historical non-European victim group. The chief enemy, according to this world-view, is any kind of white ethnic nationalism (Russian, French, German, Greek,..), while other nationalisms & ethnic animuses are generally applauded- especially if they’re anti- Euro-white-male.

    As an aside, there is an idolization of all kinds of minorities.

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    Yeah sure. Decedents of African slaves in North America also think they got the worst if it when its quite the opposite. In the Caribbean they could not even breed them to survive. Double castration in the Middle East was genocidal. Few and none remained to speak for them. In the most gentile form of African slavery was the loudest voice.

    Know any Arians? How many Zoroastrians do you know? How are the Arawak doing lately? Basque and native Albania? Not many of those.

    And Armenia?

    "The helpless nation has seldom been permitted to enjoy the tranquillity of servitude. From the earliest period to the present hour, Armenia has been the theatre of perpetual war: the lands between Tauris and Erivan were dispeopled by the cruel policy of the Sophis; and myriads of Christian families were transplanted, to perish or to propagate in the distant provinces of Persia. Under the rod of oppression, the zeal of the Armenians is fervent and intrepid; they have often preferred the crown of martyrdom to the white turban of Mahomet;"
    -Gibbon


    Yes a large population of the Jews were left to ruin, but unlike many other groups, they were well diversified and have long been able to form powerful alliances, some of which resulted in this very consequence. The world Zionist allied with the British in WWI as we all ought to know. Jews have not been helpless for quite some time. They are playing high stakes politics which will result in losses.


    Your special victim hood status is denied. The World Wars were a disaster for many peoples. Keep in mind the Jews were unscathed relatively speaking in the first war. Europe took the brunt of them both.
    , @Wally
    said:
    "More Gypsies than Jews were killed re relative numbers"

    LOL
    Just like the absurd '6M Jews' lie, there is no proof that gypsies & homosexuals were 'exterminated' either.

    That canard is just an attempt by Jews to buy support for their laughable & impossible '6M'

    And notice the dumb reference by Zionist 'Bardon Kaldian' to Wikipedia.
    Seriously? Laughable Zionist controlled Wikipedia?
    It’s amazing why anyone would cite Wikipedia as a reference for anything which Jews have a special interest in promoting. It's rather like asking the wolf to guard the chicken coop.
    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    The fake 'gypsies & homesexual canards obliterated here:

    Gypsies and Homosexuals in the Camps
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1894

    homosexuals - Yad Vashem ...
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1930

    www.codoh.com

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  168. @Momus
    In extremis forgivably so.

    Here’s my problem. The consequences of the holocaust have not created a people sensitive to the plight of others. What happens as routine in Palestine is not the in any connected to the holocaust. The holocaust does not excuse excessive and illegal behavior by Israel. The use of the holocaust to cover abuse doesn’t garner much support. WWII is long and gone. I can certainly honor the holocaust dead and suffered, argue for such to never happen again and still hold Israel to account.

    If people want tie themselves in not arguing the holocaust, so be it. My concern is that my country is being asked to condone Israel’s behavior today.

    She has no business in Syria fomenting violence. And let’s not pretend Israel’s innocence here. That’s why discussions about the holocaust should be kept in their proper place. I reject the smoke screening. It’s like the person who gets arrested for stealing, using their skin color as a defense and the discrimination of the US — sure, the US has a history, but how that links to their stealing is another matter.

    I am keenly aware of the very thin threads that Jews have been making that the Arab world partnered with Germany in the holocaust.. And the reason they are making those claims is to justify abuse today. In fact, Israel and Jews love to have the discussions with those who challenge the Holocaust. That discussion, just fuels the smoke screening. And Jews love to blow up those small numbers as a global cause despite its irrelevance. By ballooning, you make anyone who challenges Israeli behavior into a denier and that — to silence critics. It’s dishonest, abusive, and a bold faced lie. But the fear of sanctioning is a very powerful persuader, save for people who have experienced sanction by Jews , by Israelis, by Muslims, by blacks, by whites, by their own . . .

    No sale.

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    I agree

    Jewish supremacists use the Holocaust as "justification" for genocide, murder, oppression, theft, terror, torture, and cruelty.

    If the Nazis were trying to get Jews out of their lands, it's because they considered the Jews living there to be an existential threat to their existence. Weimar is all the proof anyone needs of that.

    But at least the Nazis were trying to get Jews out of Christendom, which is the ancient homeland of European Gentiles, not Jews.

    Whereas Jewish supremacist Zionists are genociding Arabs out of ancient Arab lands.

    It's not fair to Nazis to be compared to Zionist Jews, who so often are cruel for cruelty's sake.
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  169. @Momus
    In extremis forgivably so.

    The expense that the US has paid Israel and continues to pay is compensation enough for her role in the holocaust — which is nil. And the sacrifice of millions of US citizens to that end is in my view more than just compensation.

    Israel had one mission — love the lord their God. And in so doing be a light unto the nations. Uhhh no, the law is not suspended because of the holocaust. The US can continue to bless Israel’s by defending her without supporting or condoning her violations of the law. If that is the suggestion, it’s over the top given 75 years out.

    This is not the world of ancient Egypt and Sumeria where land conquest is the means. In the US millions of christians scream about law and order and then proceed to toss it when it suits their desires, such seems to be the case with Israel. I am an absolute believer in the supernatural, which is why, I find christian who excuse everything Israel does as peculiar, because surely there;s a level of trust in providence to provide that Israel seems to be lacking and the same christians as well. And the idea that christians are subservient to the secular state of Israel — seems to me that christians instead would pressing for more christian like behavior from Israel for the sacrifices being made — starting with adhering to to the international law and participating as a member of the nations. In my view, she can retain her “special” condition and behave accordingly.

    But this is a discussion US citizens must have with each other. But in my view, even on a biblical level Israel’s behavior with regard to the laws in the region — your contend —

    By holocaust deniers you mean anyone like me who doesn’t bow to a carte balnche pass of Israeli behavior.

    No sale.

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    Your partial sentence...

    But in my view, even on a biblical level Israel’s behavior with regard to the laws in the region — your contend —
     
    ...Israel violates the Jewish Commandments by
    coveting,
    lying,
    stealing,
    murdering.

    There, finished it for you.
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  170. j2 says:
    @Thomm
    It is a privilege to see a sophisticated Confuse and Conquer Jew like Ron Unz singlehandedly tie up hundreds if not thousands of White Trashionalists at once.

    Step 1 : Make a website that WNs use (since they can never build anything on their own). Let any and all anti-Semitic slurs stand on the website to make WNs complacent and even keyboard-courageous.
    Step 2 : Recruit the 2-3 intelligent authors that WNs read (Sailer, Derbyshire, etc.) who happen to bad at making money, so that they write for very little renumeration.
    Step 3 : After a few years, start pushing for normalization of Hispanics (even if illegal; especially if illegal).
    Step 4 : Deploy someone like Fred Reed to generate even more confusion, and then someone like Philip Giraldi to get the anti-Israel wing gathered in one place.

    It works…and it is a lesson in asymmetrical attrition warfare by a sophisticated Confuse and Conquer Jew.

    Ron Unz has said about 95% of this site disputes the fact that the real division is black vs non-black. I am among the 5% that agree with him (although I am more conservative than him, since I think there should be only skilled, legal immigration, not unskilled and certainly never illegal).

    Now, here is the thing. Those who talk about Auschwitz, lampshades, and soap never get moderated here, but those who agree with Ron Unz do. He will even get angry with those who agree with him too vocally, even as any and all anti-Israel content is fully welcome.

    Why?

    It is because he thinks it will expose his game of 4D chess from the perception of a 70-IQ WN. But I guarantee that it cannot, since the typical White Trashionalist is far below the IQ threshold where they can observe the many pieces in motion. I can describe Ron’s plan in full detail (and I fully support it), without any risk of the WNs figuring anything out (much less leaving this site).

    I am strongly in favor of what Ron Unz is doing.

    Many people wonder similar things. Ron Unz and The Unz Review? Is there a black list being compiled somewhere? But finally it does not matter. Truth matters.

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  171. Rurik says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    Here's my problem. The consequences of the holocaust have not created a people sensitive to the plight of others. What happens as routine in Palestine is not the in any connected to the holocaust. The holocaust does not excuse excessive and illegal behavior by Israel. The use of the holocaust to cover abuse doesn't garner much support. WWII is long and gone. I can certainly honor the holocaust dead and suffered, argue for such to never happen again and still hold Israel to account.

    If people want tie themselves in not arguing the holocaust, so be it. My concern is that my country is being asked to condone Israel's behavior today.

    She has no business in Syria fomenting violence. And let's not pretend Israel's innocence here. That's why discussions about the holocaust should be kept in their proper place. I reject the smoke screening. It's like the person who gets arrested for stealing, using their skin color as a defense and the discrimination of the US -- sure, the US has a history, but how that links to their stealing is another matter.

    I am keenly aware of the very thin threads that Jews have been making that the Arab world partnered with Germany in the holocaust.. And the reason they are making those claims is to justify abuse today. In fact, Israel and Jews love to have the discussions with those who challenge the Holocaust. That discussion, just fuels the smoke screening. And Jews love to blow up those small numbers as a global cause despite its irrelevance. By ballooning, you make anyone who challenges Israeli behavior into a denier and that -- to silence critics. It's dishonest, abusive, and a bold faced lie. But the fear of sanctioning is a very powerful persuader, save for people who have experienced sanction by Jews , by Israelis, by Muslims, by blacks, by whites, by their own . . .


    No sale.

    I agree

    Jewish supremacists use the Holocaust as “justification” for genocide, murder, oppression, theft, terror, torture, and cruelty.

    If the Nazis were trying to get Jews out of their lands, it’s because they considered the Jews living there to be an existential threat to their existence. Weimar is all the proof anyone needs of that.

    But at least the Nazis were trying to get Jews out of Christendom, which is the ancient homeland of European Gentiles, not Jews.

    Whereas Jewish supremacist Zionists are genociding Arabs out of ancient Arab lands.

    It’s not fair to Nazis to be compared to Zionist Jews, who so often are cruel for cruelty’s sake.

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    Rurik wrote insightfully:
    "Whereas Jewish supremacist Zionists are genociding Arabs out of ancient Arab lands."

    Hi Rurik,

    I trust Ron Unz will allow the linking of Brother Nathaniel's latest "Real Jew News" video (below) where a Q&A-clip features President Putin's statesmanlike reason for Russia's military support of President Assad's country.

    (With keen sense of humor, Brother Nathanael ran an actual shot of Trump appearing to drag Macron forward with a doggie leash!)

    https://youtu.be/-7y9JgAX7fs

    In contrast to Vladimir Putin, it's stupefying to know how PreZident's Trump and Macron are forever tethered to Israeli demands, leash.

    These flagrant imposters are banned from simply telling the truth that Israel wants to oust President Basher Assad's government from Syria, install a Zionist Jew-friendly "authoritarian" dictatorship, and make way for the dawning of ancient Greater Israel.

    Thanks, Rurik.
    , @EliteCommInc.
    I am referencing Israel as a state and her place. I am not an advocate of abolishing Israel or silencing or any manner engaging discriminating against Jews from the public square in the US or the international community.


    I cannot condone the actions of Nazi Germany. And by that I mean the entire Nazi agenda. I am not convinced that German Jews who served with due rigor in WWI to advance Germany's goals suddenly turned on their fellows. I could be wrong, but German Jews did what they could to demonstrate their fealty to Germany and singling hem out for any reason was peculiar.

    And contrary to your comments, Christ wants Jews in the faith not out. So any attempt to purge Jews from a life with Christ is a fundamental contradiction to Christ himself.
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  172. RobinG says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    The expense that the US has paid Israel and continues to pay is compensation enough for her role in the holocaust -- which is nil. And the sacrifice of millions of US citizens to that end is in my view more than just compensation.

    Israel had one mission -- love the lord their God. And in so doing be a light unto the nations. Uhhh no, the law is not suspended because of the holocaust. The US can continue to bless Israel's by defending her without supporting or condoning her violations of the law. If that is the suggestion, it's over the top given 75 years out.

    This is not the world of ancient Egypt and Sumeria where land conquest is the means. In the US millions of christians scream about law and order and then proceed to toss it when it suits their desires, such seems to be the case with Israel. I am an absolute believer in the supernatural, which is why, I find christian who excuse everything Israel does as peculiar, because surely there;s a level of trust in providence to provide that Israel seems to be lacking and the same christians as well. And the idea that christians are subservient to the secular state of Israel --- seems to me that christians instead would pressing for more christian like behavior from Israel for the sacrifices being made -- starting with adhering to to the international law and participating as a member of the nations. In my view, she can retain her "special" condition and behave accordingly.

    But this is a discussion US citizens must have with each other. But in my view, even on a biblical level Israel's behavior with regard to the laws in the region -- your contend ---

    By holocaust deniers you mean anyone like me who doesn't bow to a carte balnche pass of Israeli behavior.


    No sale.

    Your partial sentence…

    But in my view, even on a biblical level Israel’s behavior with regard to the laws in the region — your contend —

    …Israel violates the Jewish Commandments by
    coveting,
    lying,
    stealing,
    murdering.

    There, finished it for you.

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  173. gwynedd1 says:
    @Momus
    You're incoherent.

    You are a moron.

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  174. @Rurik
    I agree

    Jewish supremacists use the Holocaust as "justification" for genocide, murder, oppression, theft, terror, torture, and cruelty.

    If the Nazis were trying to get Jews out of their lands, it's because they considered the Jews living there to be an existential threat to their existence. Weimar is all the proof anyone needs of that.

    But at least the Nazis were trying to get Jews out of Christendom, which is the ancient homeland of European Gentiles, not Jews.

    Whereas Jewish supremacist Zionists are genociding Arabs out of ancient Arab lands.

    It's not fair to Nazis to be compared to Zionist Jews, who so often are cruel for cruelty's sake.

    Rurik wrote insightfully:
    “Whereas Jewish supremacist Zionists are genociding Arabs out of ancient Arab lands.”

    Hi Rurik,

    I trust Ron Unz will allow the linking of Brother Nathaniel’s latest “Real Jew News” video (below) where a Q&A-clip features President Putin’s statesmanlike reason for Russia’s military support of President Assad’s country.

    (With keen sense of humor, Brother Nathanael ran an actual shot of Trump appearing to drag Macron forward with a doggie leash!)

    In contrast to Vladimir Putin, it’s stupefying to know how PreZident’s Trump and Macron are forever tethered to Israeli demands, leash.

    These flagrant imposters are banned from simply telling the truth that Israel wants to oust President Basher Assad’s government from Syria, install a Zionist Jew-friendly “authoritarian” dictatorship, and make way for the dawning of ancient Greater Israel.

    Thanks, Rurik.

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    Israel wants to oust President Basher Assad’s government from Syria, install a Zionist Jew-friendly “authoritarian” dictatorship,
     
    Hey Brother Chuck,

    I don't think Israel wants Syria to be ruled by a dictatorship, as that would mean stability. And they want instability. They want for Syria to come apart at the seams, so obviously they can steal the Golan Heights, and also (very importantly) see the people of Syria descend into a virtual hell on earth, in exactly the same way Libya has descended into a hell on earth.

    They want to see the Syrian people suffer, just as they get off making the Palestinians suffer, just as they enjoy knowing the suffering they caused the people of Iraq. That is fundamental to their expression of the Jewish supremacist id; that if a nation (or individual- like that 90 year old woman) opposes the supremacist will of the Jewish people, that they will suffer. Like the Germans suffered, or the Russian suffered under their Bolshevik iron boot.

    Their collective id and identity is based on the divinity of the Jewish people, and all those who don't bow down to them must be made to do so, or endure the wrath of their uniquely satanic capacity to hate.

    The Syrian people have refused to bow down, just as the Germans refused to bow down, just as the Iraqi people refused, and the Iranian people continue to be an affront to the Fiend, and refuse to get on their knees and worship the Jewish people as god on this earth, like the Christian Zionists do, and the American congress does, and the European politicians all do.

    If it's good enough for Macron and the president of the ZUSA! then why does this Putin fellow think he's immune!

    That segment with Putin in the video you posted, was beautiful.

    And demonstrated for all to see, exactly why ((they)) hate that man. Because what he said was the obvious, and glaring truth. The emperor has no clothes, and the criminal terrorists on the world's stage are the ZUSA, NATO and the zio-Jewish supremacist banksters behind it all.

    God bless Putin, God bless Brother Nathanael, and God bless you too Chuck, and all the other people who have the decency of character and moral courage to resist this Fiend, that is determined to see this 21st century be as murderous and savage as the last one was.

    It was the zio-Fiend that orchestrated the Bolshevik, Soviet horrors in the last century, resulting in catastrophic wars that engulfed Europa, and left Germany and so many other places in ashes. And they love what they did, and they'd love to do it all over again.

    That's why I call them the Fiend, because they love murder and horrors and suffering. They get off on causing suffering to others, it gives them infinite joy.

    And they've got their gnarled, twisted fingers gripped tight on the throat of mankind, demanding more and more and more wars, horrors, and suffering.

    I wonder if the chickens will ever come home to roost.

    Peace.

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  175. gwynedd1 says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    More Gypsies than Jews were killed re relative numbers; and, it is highly unlikely than most people would think that 20 million is somehow "less" than 5 million just because the first number represents lower percentage of the targeted group.

    As for contribution to the greater good, Germans ("Aryans") have been even more massively represented in past 200 years, from Gauss & Beethoven to Diesel and Heisenberg, and nobody seems to care- much.

    The election of Jews to the special victim status is confluence of a few factors:

    * resurgence of Jewish ethnic nationalism after victories in 1967 war & dis-assimilation of Jews in the Western world. One should just compare the number of holo themed movies before & after 1967.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Holocaust_films

    * dominant influence of US culture & media after 1960s and, as a result, promotion of Jewish ethnic concerns & interests which are over-represented in American popular culture & media

    * dominance of New Left ideology in past few decades among Western socio-cultural elites, in the form which is known, rather clumsily, as "Cultural Marxism". In practice, this ideology clearly demonizes everything white-European-male, and Jews, although not favored pets like blacks or Muslims or ugly women, get their extras as a historical non-European victim group. The chief enemy, according to this world-view, is any kind of white ethnic nationalism (Russian, French, German, Greek,..), while other nationalisms & ethnic animuses are generally applauded- especially if they're anti- Euro-white-male.

    As an aside, there is an idolization of all kinds of minorities.

    Yeah sure. Decedents of African slaves in North America also think they got the worst if it when its quite the opposite. In the Caribbean they could not even breed them to survive. Double castration in the Middle East was genocidal. Few and none remained to speak for them. In the most gentile form of African slavery was the loudest voice.

    Know any Arians? How many Zoroastrians do you know? How are the Arawak doing lately? Basque and native Albania? Not many of those.

    And Armenia?

    “The helpless nation has seldom been permitted to enjoy the tranquillity of servitude. From the earliest period to the present hour, Armenia has been the theatre of perpetual war: the lands between Tauris and Erivan were dispeopled by the cruel policy of the Sophis; and myriads of Christian families were transplanted, to perish or to propagate in the distant provinces of Persia. Under the rod of oppression, the zeal of the Armenians is fervent and intrepid; they have often preferred the crown of martyrdom to the white turban of Mahomet;”
    -Gibbon

    Yes a large population of the Jews were left to ruin, but unlike many other groups, they were well diversified and have long been able to form powerful alliances, some of which resulted in this very consequence. The world Zionist allied with the British in WWI as we all ought to know. Jews have not been helpless for quite some time. They are playing high stakes politics which will result in losses.

    Your special victim hood status is denied. The World Wars were a disaster for many peoples. Keep in mind the Jews were unscathed relatively speaking in the first war. Europe took the brunt of them both.

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    Your reference to Albanians and Basques seems misinformed. And are you aware that the Zoroastrians are represented by the prosperous Parsees? That aside you inspire a question which is why and when the Zionists chose to support the British rather than the Germans.

    How important was 1. the fact that the Ottomans were a German ally from early in the war? 2. It would not have been possible to get America to support Germany? 3. Early Zionist financiers were British?
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  176. @Momus
    You are making the extraordinary claim by denying the holocaust.
    It is incumbent on you to demonstrate the veracity of what you say; not for anyone to 'prove' the holocaust.

    You are making the extraordinary claim by denying the holocaust.

    There is no “The” holocaust. There are many that we never hear about while the one endlessly brayed about is evidently full of holes.

    It is incumbent on you to demonstrate the veracity of what you say; not for anyone to ‘prove’ the holocaust.

    I call BS on that. Elementary logic tells us that the onus probandi is on the one who makes the claim that something existed or happened so it’s up to you to substantiate your claims about “The” holocaust.

    Until then its only a figment of inveterate liars embellished by egocentric,sociopathic hysterics until it’s become a veritable religion in itself. A victimology cult. As such it’s as mockable and it is risible. It’s also highly irritating to have the mythology rammed in our faces 25/8/ 365 for decades, while it’s parent, the victim schtick has been around for millenia.

    Enough, already. Grow up and get with the program, please!

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    The holocaust has been proven to the satisfaction of a vast percentage of the worlds population. You are out there Jim Jonesing with moon landing, spherical earth and Hiroshima deniers.
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  177. Do Jews or Israelis ever think of the ‘come down’ part of the law of physics that states ‘What goes up must come down’? Cuz we live on earth and not in space.

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  178. Kolo says:
    @renfro
    If you think your last holocaust was bad wait till you see the next one.....there's definitely one in your future.

    Agree

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  179. Rurik says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    Rurik wrote insightfully:
    "Whereas Jewish supremacist Zionists are genociding Arabs out of ancient Arab lands."

    Hi Rurik,

    I trust Ron Unz will allow the linking of Brother Nathaniel's latest "Real Jew News" video (below) where a Q&A-clip features President Putin's statesmanlike reason for Russia's military support of President Assad's country.

    (With keen sense of humor, Brother Nathanael ran an actual shot of Trump appearing to drag Macron forward with a doggie leash!)

    https://youtu.be/-7y9JgAX7fs

    In contrast to Vladimir Putin, it's stupefying to know how PreZident's Trump and Macron are forever tethered to Israeli demands, leash.

    These flagrant imposters are banned from simply telling the truth that Israel wants to oust President Basher Assad's government from Syria, install a Zionist Jew-friendly "authoritarian" dictatorship, and make way for the dawning of ancient Greater Israel.

    Thanks, Rurik.

    Israel wants to oust President Basher Assad’s government from Syria, install a Zionist Jew-friendly “authoritarian” dictatorship,

    Hey Brother Chuck,

    I don’t think Israel wants Syria to be ruled by a dictatorship, as that would mean stability. And they want instability. They want for Syria to come apart at the seams, so obviously they can steal the Golan Heights, and also (very importantly) see the people of Syria descend into a virtual hell on earth, in exactly the same way Libya has descended into a hell on earth.

    They want to see the Syrian people suffer, just as they get off making the Palestinians suffer, just as they enjoy knowing the suffering they caused the people of Iraq. That is fundamental to their expression of the Jewish supremacist id; that if a nation (or individual- like that 90 year old woman) opposes the supremacist will of the Jewish people, that they will suffer. Like the Germans suffered, or the Russian suffered under their Bolshevik iron boot.

    Their collective id and identity is based on the divinity of the Jewish people, and all those who don’t bow down to them must be made to do so, or endure the wrath of their uniquely satanic capacity to hate.

    The Syrian people have refused to bow down, just as the Germans refused to bow down, just as the Iraqi people refused, and the Iranian people continue to be an affront to the Fiend, and refuse to get on their knees and worship the Jewish people as god on this earth, like the Christian Zionists do, and the American congress does, and the European politicians all do.

    If it’s good enough for Macron and the president of the ZUSA! then why does this Putin fellow think he’s immune!

    That segment with Putin in the video you posted, was beautiful.

    And demonstrated for all to see, exactly why ((they)) hate that man. Because what he said was the obvious, and glaring truth. The emperor has no clothes, and the criminal terrorists on the world’s stage are the ZUSA, NATO and the zio-Jewish supremacist banksters behind it all.

    God bless Putin, God bless Brother Nathanael, and God bless you too Chuck, and all the other people who have the decency of character and moral courage to resist this Fiend, that is determined to see this 21st century be as murderous and savage as the last one was.

    It was the zio-Fiend that orchestrated the Bolshevik, Soviet horrors in the last century, resulting in catastrophic wars that engulfed Europa, and left Germany and so many other places in ashes. And they love what they did, and they’d love to do it all over again.

    That’s why I call them the Fiend, because they love murder and horrors and suffering. They get off on causing suffering to others, it gives them infinite joy.

    And they’ve got their gnarled, twisted fingers gripped tight on the throat of mankind, demanding more and more and more wars, horrors, and suffering.

    I wonder if the chickens will ever come home to roost.

    Peace.

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    Excellent post
    Thanks
    , @gwynedd1
    My question is when will they stop coming home to roost? Judiasim is rather unique in a loathing for anything not in an inner circle as least to the degree of being so systematic. For there to be an inner circle there must be an outer circle. Jews end up in that outser circle all the time . There is an idea of endless cleansing..

    Romans 11 is an interesting chapter.

    "Lord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life”?[a] 4 But what does the divine response say to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal"


    Paul was a Jew with no particular love of other Jews.


    Nothing new:
    Zechariah 13
    "That two-thirds in it shall be cut off and die,
    But one–third shall be left in it:
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    I will bring the one–third through the fire,
    Will refine them as silver is refined,"
    And test them as gold is tested."


    Jeremiah 24

    "The Lord showed me, and there were two baskets of figs set before the temple of the Lord, after Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon had carried away captive Jeconiah the son of Jehoiakim, king of Judah, and the princes of Judah with the craftsmen and smiths, from Jerusalem, and had brought them to Babylon. 2 One basket had very good figs, like the figs that are first ripe; and the other basket had very bad figs which could not be eaten, they were so bad. 3 Then the Lord said to me, “What do you see, Jeremiah?”"


    Joseph was screwed by his brothers....etc

    Could be the desert religions needed to systematize the cyclical disasters .

    The question is will Judaism adhere to its "cleanse the bastards" roots or will it adhere to a Holocaust victim with gentiles in the outer circle only.


    I get the feeling that being surrounded by hostile Arabs might be the only thing keeping them safe from each other...


    But then that was not enough either:
    " WHEN therefore Titus had marched over that desert which lies between Egypt and Syria, in the manner forementioned, he came to Cesarea, having resolved to set his forces in order at that place, before he began the war. Nay, indeed, while he was assisting his father at Alexandria, in settling that government which had been newly conferred upon them by God, it so happened that the sedition at Jerusalem was revived, and parted into three factions, and that one faction fought against the other; which partition in such evil cases may be said to be a good thing, and the effect of Divine justice. Now as to the attack the zealots made upon the people, and which I esteem the beginning of the city's destruction, it hath been already explained after an accurate manner; as also whence it arose, and to how great a mischief it was increased. But for the present sedition, one should not mistake if he called it a sedition begotten by another sedition, and to be like a wild beast grown mad, which, for want of food from abroad, fell now upon eating its own flesh. "
    -Josephus


    Christianity , a more tolerant, intolerant faith, but still seemed to inherent a good deal of the self loathing and intolerance. When there is a lot of something, like Pantheistic kinds of systems anything goes. When there is just one , then everyone must get it right. Those Nestorians and Gnostics were outer circle to Orthodoxy and the other way around.. And bad things are a coming too...end timer-ism...


    Islam is not safe from other Islamic sects just like Christians were more unsafe around other sects than they were the Turks or the Zoroastrians. Part of the reason the Eastern flank of the Byzantines was so weak was because of the sectarian Christian squabbles. Was Jesus flesh ? Did he have two wills or one etc .

    Judaism's greatest plagues are its own false Messiahs like Jesus and Muhammad. Those are only the most famous. Sabbeteans and Frankists also joined the fun.

    I have little reason to think the cleansing will not continue among themselves.

    , @Momus
    Assad, with Iranian help is dismembering Syria.

    Israel's' humanitarian work there on the border is widely welcomed.

    It is not in Israel's or anyone else's interests to have another failed state or Iranian proxy
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  180. Incitatus says:
    @anarchyst
    There is NOT ONE DOCUMENT outlining any extermination plan for jews or others. In fact, prominent Zionists formulated plans at the highest level of the German government for the “transfer” of jews to what was then known as Palestine. Nothing about extermination.

    Official International Red Cross figures for all camp “deaths” total around 731,000–NOT “6 million”. In fact, population totals pre-WW2 and post-WW2 show an INCREASE in the jewish population in post-WW2 Europe immediately after the cessation of the war…

    If a country were hell-bent on genocide, WHY WOULD IT KEEP RECORDS?? WHY would it build “camps” hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away with sanitary facilities, housing, medical, recreational and other ancillary facilities? Would it not have been easier to just “eliminate” them without going through all of this trouble? Why would they expend massive effort on logistical movement utilizing their limited energy resources if the goal was extermination? Things do not “add up”…

    Something BIG “stinks” in this whole jewish “holocaust ™” deal. It is no secret that jewish Zionists made “deals” with the German government in order to make life “uncomfortable” for jewish Germans. In fact, it was jewish Zionist leaders who first proposed that all jews wear the “yellow Star of David” armband so that they could be easily identified.

    The establishment of a “homeland” along with the 6,000,000 figure was a Zionist “dream” since the 1800s. What better way to encourage “emigration” to a foreign land than to make things difficult for the “cream of German society” (jews)?? The TRUTH about the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” is out . . .

    The so-called jewish “holocaust ™” has been turned into a de-facto “religion” in which no deviation from orthodoxy is permitted. In fact, in most European countries, independent investigation into jewish “holocaust ™” truths is strictly forbidden under pain of fines and imprisonment. In the USA, things are not quite as bad, only job loss and personal and professional destruction at the hands of those of the “tribe” that FEAR the real truth of the jewish “holocaust ™” being exposed is evident. TRUTH CANNOT BE USED AS A DEFENSE OR ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE IN THE “KANGAROO COURTS” THAT PROSECUTE THOSE WHO DARE TO INVESTIGATE THIS HISTORICAL EVENT. A question for you “holocaust ™” promoters–why are there laws that criminalize the search for truth??

    When the truth about this historical event comes out, it will change much of the world’s perception about those that are using this event as a “cash cow” that “keeps on giving”. . . “there’s NO business like “SHOAH business”.
    Jewish complicity in this event is carefully “covered up”.

    A good example of present-day censorship is the fate that awaits those that dare question “official” jewish “holocaust” orthodoxy. Most European countries have criminalized ANY line of thought that deviates from the “official” jewish “holocaust” story. WHY?? In fact, TRUTH is no defense when it comes to “all things holocaust”. Ask noted WW2 researcher David Irving, who was forced to recant TRUTH in order to avoid punishment. . .

    If people only knew of the planning that took place (among those of the “chosen”) to engineer the jewish “holocaust”, there would be a pogrom of massive size. You see, the jewish “holocaust” was necessary in order to force the establishment of a jewish state. In this case, the ENDS justified the MEANS. There have been many “holocausts” of much greater misery throughout human history, yet the jewish “holocaust” is the only one that counts . . .

    Look at the “commercialization of the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” while the much larger communist (true) holocaust is conveniently forgotten. To assure a continuing supply of jewish “holocaust ™” “survivors”, jews are tattooing their ATM (oops, I mean “camp” numbers) on their children and grandchildren. In addition, jewish psychologists have come up with a new concept, and “disease”–”holocaust ™ “transference syndrome". You see, children and grandchildren of jewish “holocaust ™” survivors are infected with this “disease” and should also be considered “holocaust ™” survivors, eligible for “holocaust ™” reparations.

    Since the jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933), the Germans had no choice but to complete the Zionist plan of marginalizing German jews (to say the least).. This fulfilled the Zionist plan of forcing German jews to emigrate to Palestine while making the world grant jews a “homeland”–Israel. It is interesting to note that the German boycott of jewish businesses lasted for one day, whil the jewish boycott (actually the jews’ declaration of war on Germany) started in 1933 and lasted until the summation of WW2.

    Zionists have been predicting a jewish “homeland for the last two-hundred years while predicting a “holocaust ™” of 6 million for the same amount of time. The ACTUAL number of non-combatant deaths in the European theater of operations is approximately 731,000, NOT 6 million (official International Red Cross figures).

    Regarding that “holocaust ™” “showplace” Auschwitz, there are engineering inconsistencies in the design of the so-called “gas chambers”. The doors are not of a gas-tight design; it would have been impossible to retrieve the bodies, and there is no means to ventilate the rooms after the so-called “gassing” took place”. There is a “gas chamber” chimney that is not connected to anything. From an engineering standpoint, these are very serious errors that would have caused the deaths of the “operators” of these supposed “gas chambers”. As Germans were excellent engineers, it is difficult to observe the glaring engineering errors that presently exist in these “camps”.

    American execution expert, Fred Leuchter travelled to Auschwitz, surreptitiously obtained samples from the purported “gas chambers”, had them tested and published his results. The absence of Prussian blue (ferricyanide) in ALL of the samples, save one, was PROOF that the “gas chambers” did not exist. The one positive sample was taken from a room used to disinfect clothing. In fact, the “chimney” for the supposed “gas chamber” does not connect to anything.

    Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .

    It is no secret that after WW2, the Soviets attempted to “create” the “death camps” for propaganda purposes. Yes, there was extreme deprivation and suffering–many people perished. The prime cause of death was typhus. As allied bombings destroyed most of the infrastructure, typhus was at epidemic levels. THIS is what caused the massive amounts of human deaths . . .NOT gassing.

    It is interesting to note that, before the camps were “liberated” by the “allies”, the camp occupants chose to flee with the German troops, rather than be “liberated” by the Russian “allies”.

    I urge those “holocaust ™” believers to check these things out for yourselves–IF YOU DARE. You will not like what you find…

    “I’ve been to Auschwitz, and, as an engineer, saw for myself the inconsistencies…”

    Engineer? Really?

    “…Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .”

    “Practicing engineering without a license” is not “an obscure Massachusetts “law”…never used before or since”. Such prosecution is routine. Three 2018 cases thus far:

    https://www.mass.gov/dpl-disciplinary-actions

    Previous years:

    http://www.mass.gov/ocabr/licensee/dpl-boards/en/massachusetts-board-of-registration-of.html

    The same is true in every state. You should know that. Are you really an engineer?

    “Leuchter signed a consent decree with the board, in which he stated that he was not and had never been registered as a professional engineer, despite having represented himself as one”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_A._Leuchter

    In other words, Fred lied and admitted it. True to form, he later said “Although the state’s licensing law has been in effect since 1940, there has been no record of any prosecution for this offense…”

    Another lie. How can anyone believe anything he says?

    Spamming obvious falsehood destroys your credibility.

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    I stand by my statements. Yes, I am an engineer--not a "professional engineer" but an electrical engineer that does not require permission from the state...
    Mr. Leuchter was harassed on the direction of those of the "tribe".
    His "line of work" did not require a license or permission from the state. Are you aware that an engineer is anyone who designs equipment or has expertise in engineering work? There are many subspecialties of engineering, many people in those disciplines who do not hold engineering licenses. The "professional engineer" designation is for those who have passed testing in ALL engineering disciplines, mechanical, electrical, etc...nothing more. There is a big difference between the "professional engineering" discipline and those who practice subspecialties of engineering. Only the "professional engineer" designation requires licensure.
    Mr. Leuchter IS an electrical engineer in the specialty of execution machinery, regardless of license. There are very few engineers who have his expertise in that aspect of engineering.
    ...
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  181. @Rurik
    I agree

    Jewish supremacists use the Holocaust as "justification" for genocide, murder, oppression, theft, terror, torture, and cruelty.

    If the Nazis were trying to get Jews out of their lands, it's because they considered the Jews living there to be an existential threat to their existence. Weimar is all the proof anyone needs of that.

    But at least the Nazis were trying to get Jews out of Christendom, which is the ancient homeland of European Gentiles, not Jews.

    Whereas Jewish supremacist Zionists are genociding Arabs out of ancient Arab lands.

    It's not fair to Nazis to be compared to Zionist Jews, who so often are cruel for cruelty's sake.

    I am referencing Israel as a state and her place. I am not an advocate of abolishing Israel or silencing or any manner engaging discriminating against Jews from the public square in the US or the international community.

    I cannot condone the actions of Nazi Germany. And by that I mean the entire Nazi agenda. I am not convinced that German Jews who served with due rigor in WWI to advance Germany’s goals suddenly turned on their fellows. I could be wrong, but German Jews did what they could to demonstrate their fealty to Germany and singling hem out for any reason was peculiar.

    And contrary to your comments, Christ wants Jews in the faith not out. So any attempt to purge Jews from a life with Christ is a fundamental contradiction to Christ himself.

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    I am not an advocate of abolishing Israel or silencing or any manner engaging discriminating against Jews from the public square in the US or the international community.
     
    straw man much?

    Did I say I was for abolishing Israel?

    Did I say I was for discriminating against Jews?

    No, I did not. So your hyperbolic leaps look like a dishonest attempt to mischaracterize my criticism of Israel with = 'he wants to gas the Jews!' he want to wipe Israel and the Jews off the map!

    Huh?

    What I want is peace, and respect for human dignity and self-determination. I want the Rule of Law, EliteComminc. Nowhere did I mention discriminating against Jews, although I would immediately prevent any dual citizens from occupying any positions of actual power or national influence in my country if I had the power to do so.


    I cannot condone the actions of Nazi Germany. And by that I mean the entire Nazi agenda.
     
    "entire Nazi agenda" eh?

    hmm.. one wonders, what exactly is that?

    As far as I can tell, what the Nazi agenda was, was a Germany for the German people. (horrors! I know, I know). And they wanted to determine their own destiny sans the hostile invaders who had used the betrayal of Germany at the end of the first world war to come in like carpet baggers and lord it over a broken and prostrate people, starved en masse by the actions of a fiend = Perfidious Albion and her rabid dog, the ((Wilson regime)).

    Hitler and the Nazis restored Germany to her former dignity, but then became arrogant, and the rest as they say, is history.

    But as to the "Nazi agenda", I suppose what you mean are the lies we're all told 24/7, huh?

    Like they wanted to exterminate all the Jews from the face of the planet = lie

    they wanted to invade and conquer the whole planet = lie

    they wanted to kill or enslave everyone who wasn't blonde hair and blue eyed = lie

    they built homicidal gas chambers and made soap of their victims = lie

    they conducted bizarre experiments on Jews and sewed hands to where feet should be, and vice versa = lie

    they tossed babies from the back of lories onto bonfires = lie

    geysers of blood spurted from the graves of Jews = lie

    Hitler wanted war = lie

    Hitler and the German people considered the genocidal Bolshevik Fiend- that had taken over Russia by the 'hair of the head', and were genociding its most productive people by the millions in the most cruel ways imaginable though slow starvation, and had every intention of doing the exact same thing to Germany, unless the Nazis figured out a way to prevent them, which was what operation Barbarossa was all about = Truth

    So exactly what you mean by the "Nazi agenda" is curious.


    I am not convinced that German Jews who served with due rigor in WWI to advance Germany’s goals suddenly turned on their fellows.
     
    did I say they had?

    straw man much?


    German Jews did what they could to demonstrate their fealty to Germany and singling hem out for any reason was peculiar.
     
    did I ever say they didn't?

    From what I understand, over a hundred thousand Jews served in the Wehrmacht in World War II. Which, if true, would make a mockery of the blood libel lie that the Nazis wanted to exterminate all the Jews'.

    Just like today, it wasn't the typical Jewish tailor or dentist who was a threat to Germany, just as it's not the typical Jewish dentist or businessman in America that is a threat to anyone. No Elite, those are just more hysterical lies from the fount of lies that are our media and so on.

    The truth is that there are a handful of very wealthy and powerful Jews, who- along with sinister Gentiles like Churchill and FDR, Bush, Blair, Clinton, Obama, May, Macron and now Donald J. Trump, conspire with these wealthy and powerful Jewish supremacist, Zionist interests to foist wars for fun and profit. The typical Jew is no more guilty than the typical WASP. Except in both cases though their craven and complicit silence.


    And contrary to your comments, Christ wants Jews in the faith not out.
     
    so you know what God Himself wants, eh?

    talk to Him recently did ya?


    So any attempt to purge Jews from a life with Christ is a fundamental contradiction to Christ himself.
     
    um.. dumb ass

    it's the Jews themselves who're purging themselves from a life with Christ, dumb ass. Not me.

    you've set up quite a lot of straw men there, but I must say, my having attempted to purge Jews from Christ, is the cake.

    Whoo boy.

    , @jacques sheete

    I cannot condone the actions of Nazi Germany. And by that I mean the entire Nazi agenda.
     
    Tell us about that agenda.

    I always thought they were anti-Bolshie and had to defend themselves in a very difficult time and in a very rough neighborhood.

    What would you have done with Reds raising Hell everywhere and the Bolshies committing hideous crimes at your back door for at least 15 years before yo got into power.

    I'd like to hear your opinion of the International Commie agenda and the agendas of the Red appeasers and suck-ups, FDR and Churchill.
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  182. anarchyst says:
    @Incitatus
    “I’ve been to Auschwitz, and, as an engineer, saw for myself the inconsistencies…”

    Engineer? Really?

    “...Mr. Leuchter’s was rewarded for his search for TRUTH by his professional and personal character assassination by those of the “tribe”. He lost all of his federal and state contracts, and was prosecuted under an obscure Massachusetts “law” for “practicing engineering without a license”–a law which had never been used before or since. . .”

    “Practicing engineering without a license” is not “an obscure Massachusetts “law”…never used before or since”. Such prosecution is routine. Three 2018 cases thus far:

    https://www.mass.gov/dpl-disciplinary-actions

    Previous years:

    http://www.mass.gov/ocabr/licensee/dpl-boards/en/massachusetts-board-of-registration-of.html

    The same is true in every state. You should know that. Are you really an engineer?

    “Leuchter signed a consent decree with the board, in which he stated that he was not and had never been registered as a professional engineer, despite having represented himself as one”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_A._Leuchter
     
    In other words, Fred lied and admitted it. True to form, he later said “Although the state's licensing law has been in effect since 1940, there has been no record of any prosecution for this offense…”

    Another lie. How can anyone believe anything he says?

    Spamming obvious falsehood destroys your credibility.

    I stand by my statements. Yes, I am an engineer–not a “professional engineer” but an electrical engineer that does not require permission from the state…
    Mr. Leuchter was harassed on the direction of those of the “tribe”.
    His “line of work” did not require a license or permission from the state. Are you aware that an engineer is anyone who designs equipment or has expertise in engineering work? There are many subspecialties of engineering, many people in those disciplines who do not hold engineering licenses. The “professional engineer” designation is for those who have passed testing in ALL engineering disciplines, mechanical, electrical, etc…nothing more. There is a big difference between the “professional engineering” discipline and those who practice subspecialties of engineering. Only the “professional engineer” designation requires licensure.
    Mr. Leuchter IS an electrical engineer in the specialty of execution machinery, regardless of license. There are very few engineers who have his expertise in that aspect of engineering.

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    “Mr. Leuchter IS an electrical engineer…”

    Leuchter has a BA in history from BU. Does he also have a professional degree? What qualifies him as an engineer? Working in executions when states had few consulting requirements (other than killing the condemned)? Experience is great, but dead customers can’t rate Fred’s ‘expertise’.

    Seems likely states upgraded RFPs to require professional status. Typical in many disciples over the last fifty years. Fred could have partnered with a licensed engineer (common), but apparently didn’t. He lied. He lied again about the law never being enforced. Why?

    “His “line of work” did not require a license or permission from the state…”

    Then why did he admit “having represented himself as one”?

    Generally licenses are required in any work affecting public safety. Including electrical engineering. From the MA website:

    Engineers practice in many areas, including (but not limited to):
    • chemical
    • civil
    • environmental
    electrical
    • mechanical
    • structural
    • agricultural
    • aeronautical/aerospace
    • fire protection
    • manufacturing
    • industrial
    • nuclear
    • petroleum
    • safety

    https://www.mass.gov/orgs/board-of-registration-of-professional-engineers-and-land-surveyors
     
    People can’t represent themselves as such (as Fred did) unless they have a license and keep it current. Thus the action to which he pleaded guilty.

    “Mr. Leuchter was harassed on the direction of those of the “tribe”.”

    Jewish antipathy is hardly surprising, given Fred’s assertions and associations (e.g. Ernst 'The Hitler We Loved and Why' Zündel). Cats and dogs fighting again. But many are prosecuted for fraudulent unlicensed practice. Three so far this year in Massachusetts. Are they hounded by the “tribe”? Doubt it.

    Anarchyst, you’re welcome to your opinions. Disagree with most, but it doesn’t bother me. Knock yourself out. You’d have stronger spam if you cut out the bit about Fred alone being persecuted by a dormant statute, lack of license requirements and other bogus tearjerkers.

    Maybe Fred’s an expert, maybe not. One thing’s on the record: he’s a liar. Sorry.
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  183. Kolo says:
    @Rurik

    Israel wants to oust President Basher Assad’s government from Syria, install a Zionist Jew-friendly “authoritarian” dictatorship,
     
    Hey Brother Chuck,

    I don't think Israel wants Syria to be ruled by a dictatorship, as that would mean stability. And they want instability. They want for Syria to come apart at the seams, so obviously they can steal the Golan Heights, and also (very importantly) see the people of Syria descend into a virtual hell on earth, in exactly the same way Libya has descended into a hell on earth.

    They want to see the Syrian people suffer, just as they get off making the Palestinians suffer, just as they enjoy knowing the suffering they caused the people of Iraq. That is fundamental to their expression of the Jewish supremacist id; that if a nation (or individual- like that 90 year old woman) opposes the supremacist will of the Jewish people, that they will suffer. Like the Germans suffered, or the Russian suffered under their Bolshevik iron boot.

    Their collective id and identity is based on the divinity of the Jewish people, and all those who don't bow down to them must be made to do so, or endure the wrath of their uniquely satanic capacity to hate.

    The Syrian people have refused to bow down, just as the Germans refused to bow down, just as the Iraqi people refused, and the Iranian people continue to be an affront to the Fiend, and refuse to get on their knees and worship the Jewish people as god on this earth, like the Christian Zionists do, and the American congress does, and the European politicians all do.

    If it's good enough for Macron and the president of the ZUSA! then why does this Putin fellow think he's immune!

    That segment with Putin in the video you posted, was beautiful.

    And demonstrated for all to see, exactly why ((they)) hate that man. Because what he said was the obvious, and glaring truth. The emperor has no clothes, and the criminal terrorists on the world's stage are the ZUSA, NATO and the zio-Jewish supremacist banksters behind it all.

    God bless Putin, God bless Brother Nathanael, and God bless you too Chuck, and all the other people who have the decency of character and moral courage to resist this Fiend, that is determined to see this 21st century be as murderous and savage as the last one was.

    It was the zio-Fiend that orchestrated the Bolshevik, Soviet horrors in the last century, resulting in catastrophic wars that engulfed Europa, and left Germany and so many other places in ashes. And they love what they did, and they'd love to do it all over again.

    That's why I call them the Fiend, because they love murder and horrors and suffering. They get off on causing suffering to others, it gives them infinite joy.

    And they've got their gnarled, twisted fingers gripped tight on the throat of mankind, demanding more and more and more wars, horrors, and suffering.

    I wonder if the chickens will ever come home to roost.

    Peace.

    Excellent post
    Thanks

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  184. Rurik says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    I am referencing Israel as a state and her place. I am not an advocate of abolishing Israel or silencing or any manner engaging discriminating against Jews from the public square in the US or the international community.


    I cannot condone the actions of Nazi Germany. And by that I mean the entire Nazi agenda. I am not convinced that German Jews who served with due rigor in WWI to advance Germany's goals suddenly turned on their fellows. I could be wrong, but German Jews did what they could to demonstrate their fealty to Germany and singling hem out for any reason was peculiar.

    And contrary to your comments, Christ wants Jews in the faith not out. So any attempt to purge Jews from a life with Christ is a fundamental contradiction to Christ himself.

    I am not an advocate of abolishing Israel or silencing or any manner engaging discriminating against Jews from the public square in the US or the international community.

    straw man much?

    Did I say I was for abolishing Israel?

    Did I say I was for discriminating against Jews?

    No, I did not. So your hyperbolic leaps look like a dishonest attempt to mischaracterize my criticism of Israel with = ‘he wants to gas the Jews!’ he want to wipe Israel and the Jews off the map!

    Huh?

    What I want is peace, and respect for human dignity and self-determination. I want the Rule of Law, EliteComminc. Nowhere did I mention discriminating against Jews, although I would immediately prevent any dual citizens from occupying any positions of actual power or national influence in my country if I had the power to do so.

    I cannot condone the actions of Nazi Germany. And by that I mean the entire Nazi agenda.

    “entire Nazi agenda” eh?

    hmm.. one wonders, what exactly is that?

    As far as I can tell, what the Nazi agenda was, was a Germany for the German people. (horrors! I know, I know). And they wanted to determine their own destiny sans the hostile invaders who had used the betrayal of Germany at the end of the first world war to come in like carpet baggers and lord it over a broken and prostrate people, starved en masse by the actions of a fiend = Perfidious Albion and her rabid dog, the ((Wilson regime)).

    Hitler and the Nazis restored Germany to her former dignity, but then became arrogant, and the rest as they say, is history.

    But as to the “Nazi agenda”, I suppose what you mean are the lies we’re all told 24/7, huh?

    Like they wanted to exterminate all the Jews from the face of the planet = lie

    they wanted to invade and conquer the whole planet = lie

    they wanted to kill or enslave everyone who wasn’t blonde hair and blue eyed = lie

    they built homicidal gas chambers and made soap of their victims = lie

    they conducted bizarre experiments on Jews and sewed hands to where feet should be, and vice versa = lie

    they tossed babies from the back of lories onto bonfires = lie

    geysers of blood spurted from the graves of Jews = lie

    Hitler wanted war = lie

    Hitler and the German people considered the genocidal Bolshevik Fiend- that had taken over Russia by the ‘hair of the head’, and were genociding its most productive people by the millions in the most cruel ways imaginable though slow starvation, and had every intention of doing the exact same thing to Germany, unless the Nazis figured out a way to prevent them, which was what operation Barbarossa was all about = Truth

    So exactly what you mean by the “Nazi agenda” is curious.

    I am not convinced that German Jews who served with due rigor in WWI to advance Germany’s goals suddenly turned on their fellows.

    did I say they had?

    straw man much?

    German Jews did what they could to demonstrate their fealty to Germany and singling hem out for any reason was peculiar.

    did I ever say they didn’t?

    From what I understand, over a hundred thousand Jews served in the Wehrmacht in World War II. Which, if true, would make a mockery of the blood libel lie that the Nazis wanted to exterminate all the Jews’.

    Just like today, it wasn’t the typical Jewish tailor or dentist who was a threat to Germany, just as it’s not the typical Jewish dentist or businessman in America that is a threat to anyone. No Elite, those are just more hysterical lies from the fount of lies that are our media and so on.

    The truth is that there are a handful of very wealthy and powerful Jews, who- along with sinister Gentiles like Churchill and FDR, Bush, Blair, Clinton, Obama, May, Macron and now Donald J. Trump, conspire with these wealthy and powerful Jewish supremacist, Zionist interests to foist wars for fun and profit. The typical Jew is no more guilty than the typical WASP. Except in both cases though their craven and complicit silence.

    And contrary to your comments, Christ wants Jews in the faith not out.

    so you know what God Himself wants, eh?

    talk to Him recently did ya?

    So any attempt to purge Jews from a life with Christ is a fundamental contradiction to Christ himself.

    um.. dumb ass

    it’s the Jews themselves who’re purging themselves from a life with Christ, dumb ass. Not me.

    you’ve set up quite a lot of straw men there, but I must say, my having attempted to purge Jews from Christ, is the cake.

    Whoo boy.

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    "Did I say I was for abolishing Israel? ..... No, I did not."

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  185. @Momus
    You are making the extraordinary claim by denying the holocaust.
    It is incumbent on you to demonstrate the veracity of what you say; not for anyone to 'prove' the holocaust.

    Nobody denied or denies that in WWII jews were persecuted, killed near their homes, deported, or died in concentration camps.
    The discussion is whether people were killed in large numbers in gas chambers, by the insecticide Zyklon B.
    This discussion is most extraordinary, because reading a few books gives, in my opinion, the answer to if there were or were not gas chambers for people.
    These books also explain why most people, that entered concentration camps, died after some six months.
    Gas chambers for delousing clothes by Zyklon B were all over E Europe in WWII, where typhoid is endemic, and lice carry the disease.
    Delousing clothes took an hour and a half, see the last mentioned book.

    Richard Overy, ‘Interrogations, the Nazi elite in Allied hands, 1945’, London 2001

    Elie Wiesel, ‘La Nuit’, 1958, 2007

    Léon Poliakov, ‘Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs’, 1951, 1974, Paris

    Arthur R. Butz, ´The hoax of the twentieth century, The case against the presumed extermination of European Jewry’, Costa Mesa CA, 1977, 1989

    Raul Hilberg, ‘The destruction of the European Jews’, student edition, Teaneck, 1985

    Paul Rassinier, ´Was ist Wahrheit ?, Die Juden und das Dritte Reich´, Leoni am Starnberger See, 7th printing, 1981 (Le véritable procès Eichmann ou les vainqueurs incorrigibles, 1963; The Real Eichmann Trial or the Incorrigible Victors. ISBN: 0911038485, 1983)

    Eugen Kogon, ‘Der SS-Staat, Das System der deutschen Konzentrationslager’, 1974, München

    J.G. Burg, Schuld und Schicksal, Europas Juden zwischen Henkern und Heuchlern, München, 1962

    Otto Weidinger, ´Kameraden bis zum Ende, Das SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 4 „Der Führer“, 1978, 2007, Dresden

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    ... if there were or were not gas chambers for people.
     
    The Bolshies and their NKVD gassed people via carbon monoxide in vans.

    In typical fashion, the crimes of the Bolshies are downplayed or overlooked entirely, and they assigned their own crimes to their foes. Also, one would think that Jews were the only ones who suffered during wartime, when in fact their suffering was and continues to be blown out of proportion by the usual creative liars.
    , @Wally
    Hello Jilles, you curiously said:

    "Nobody denied or denies that in WWII jews were persecuted, killed near their homes, deported, or died in concentration camps."

    Let's not try the equally fake & impossible 'holocaust-lite'. A common occurrence by those who just can't stop bowing down, those who can't quite deal with their cognitive dissonance.
    It's rather like the dumb & illogical 'it doesn't matter if it was 6 or 6,000,000, there was a 'holocaust'.'

    Jews were no more persecuted in WWII than Japanese-Americans or Christians in the USSR.

    Not sure what is meant by "killed near their homes".

    Regards.

    www.codoh.com

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  186. Wally says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    More Gypsies than Jews were killed re relative numbers; and, it is highly unlikely than most people would think that 20 million is somehow "less" than 5 million just because the first number represents lower percentage of the targeted group.

    As for contribution to the greater good, Germans ("Aryans") have been even more massively represented in past 200 years, from Gauss & Beethoven to Diesel and Heisenberg, and nobody seems to care- much.

    The election of Jews to the special victim status is confluence of a few factors:

    * resurgence of Jewish ethnic nationalism after victories in 1967 war & dis-assimilation of Jews in the Western world. One should just compare the number of holo themed movies before & after 1967.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Holocaust_films

    * dominant influence of US culture & media after 1960s and, as a result, promotion of Jewish ethnic concerns & interests which are over-represented in American popular culture & media

    * dominance of New Left ideology in past few decades among Western socio-cultural elites, in the form which is known, rather clumsily, as "Cultural Marxism". In practice, this ideology clearly demonizes everything white-European-male, and Jews, although not favored pets like blacks or Muslims or ugly women, get their extras as a historical non-European victim group. The chief enemy, according to this world-view, is any kind of white ethnic nationalism (Russian, French, German, Greek,..), while other nationalisms & ethnic animuses are generally applauded- especially if they're anti- Euro-white-male.

    As an aside, there is an idolization of all kinds of minorities.

    said:
    “More Gypsies than Jews were killed re relative numbers”

    LOL
    Just like the absurd ’6M Jews’ lie, there is no proof that gypsies & homosexuals were ‘exterminated’ either.

    That canard is just an attempt by Jews to buy support for their laughable & impossible ’6M’

    And notice the dumb reference by Zionist ‘Bardon Kaldian’ to Wikipedia.
    Seriously? Laughable Zionist controlled Wikipedia?
    It’s amazing why anyone would cite Wikipedia as a reference for anything which Jews have a special interest in promoting. It’s rather like asking the wolf to guard the chicken coop.
    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    The fake ‘gypsies & homesexual canards obliterated here:

    Gypsies and Homosexuals in the Camps

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1894

    homosexuals – Yad Vashem …

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1930

    http://www.codoh.com

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  187. @jilles dykstra
    Nobody denied or denies that in WWII jews were persecuted, killed near their homes, deported, or died in concentration camps.
    The discussion is whether people were killed in large numbers in gas chambers, by the insecticide Zyklon B.
    This discussion is most extraordinary, because reading a few books gives, in my opinion, the answer to if there were or were not gas chambers for people.
    These books also explain why most people, that entered concentration camps, died after some six months.
    Gas chambers for delousing clothes by Zyklon B were all over E Europe in WWII, where typhoid is endemic, and lice carry the disease.
    Delousing clothes took an hour and a half, see the last mentioned book.

    Richard Overy, ‘Interrogations, the Nazi elite in Allied hands, 1945’, London 2001

    Elie Wiesel, 'La Nuit', 1958, 2007

    Léon Poliakov, 'Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs', 1951, 1974, Paris

    Arthur R. Butz, ´The hoax of the twentieth century, The case against the presumed extermination of European Jewry’, Costa Mesa CA, 1977, 1989

    Raul Hilberg, ‘The destruction of the European Jews’, student edition, Teaneck, 1985

    Paul Rassinier, ´Was ist Wahrheit ?, Die Juden und das Dritte Reich´, Leoni am Starnberger See, 7th printing, 1981 (Le véritable procès Eichmann ou les vainqueurs incorrigibles, 1963; The Real Eichmann Trial or the Incorrigible Victors. ISBN: 0911038485, 1983)

    Eugen Kogon, ‘Der SS-Staat, Das System der deutschen Konzentrationslager’, 1974, München

    J.G. Burg, Schuld und Schicksal, Europas Juden zwischen Henkern und Heuchlern, München, 1962

    Otto Weidinger, ´Kameraden bis zum Ende, Das SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 4 „Der Führer“, 1978, 2007, Dresden

    … if there were or were not gas chambers for people.

    The Bolshies and their NKVD gassed people via carbon monoxide in vans.

    In typical fashion, the crimes of the Bolshies are downplayed or overlooked entirely, and they assigned their own crimes to their foes. Also, one would think that Jews were the only ones who suffered during wartime, when in fact their suffering was and continues to be blown out of proportion by the usual creative liars.

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  188. Z-man says:
    @Sir Launcelot Canning
    Don't forget they keep reelecting Israel worshipper and chickenhawk Lindsey Graham.

    You mean ‘Linda’ Graham. (Wry grin)

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  189. RobinG says:
    @Rurik

    I am not an advocate of abolishing Israel or silencing or any manner engaging discriminating against Jews from the public square in the US or the international community.
     
    straw man much?

    Did I say I was for abolishing Israel?

    Did I say I was for discriminating against Jews?

    No, I did not. So your hyperbolic leaps look like a dishonest attempt to mischaracterize my criticism of Israel with = 'he wants to gas the Jews!' he want to wipe Israel and the Jews off the map!

    Huh?

    What I want is peace, and respect for human dignity and self-determination. I want the Rule of Law, EliteComminc. Nowhere did I mention discriminating against Jews, although I would immediately prevent any dual citizens from occupying any positions of actual power or national influence in my country if I had the power to do so.


    I cannot condone the actions of Nazi Germany. And by that I mean the entire Nazi agenda.
     
    "entire Nazi agenda" eh?

    hmm.. one wonders, what exactly is that?

    As far as I can tell, what the Nazi agenda was, was a Germany for the German people. (horrors! I know, I know). And they wanted to determine their own destiny sans the hostile invaders who had used the betrayal of Germany at the end of the first world war to come in like carpet baggers and lord it over a broken and prostrate people, starved en masse by the actions of a fiend = Perfidious Albion and her rabid dog, the ((Wilson regime)).

    Hitler and the Nazis restored Germany to her former dignity, but then became arrogant, and the rest as they say, is history.

    But as to the "Nazi agenda", I suppose what you mean are the lies we're all told 24/7, huh?

    Like they wanted to exterminate all the Jews from the face of the planet = lie

    they wanted to invade and conquer the whole planet = lie

    they wanted to kill or enslave everyone who wasn't blonde hair and blue eyed = lie

    they built homicidal gas chambers and made soap of their victims = lie

    they conducted bizarre experiments on Jews and sewed hands to where feet should be, and vice versa = lie

    they tossed babies from the back of lories onto bonfires = lie

    geysers of blood spurted from the graves of Jews = lie

    Hitler wanted war = lie

    Hitler and the German people considered the genocidal Bolshevik Fiend- that had taken over Russia by the 'hair of the head', and were genociding its most productive people by the millions in the most cruel ways imaginable though slow starvation, and had every intention of doing the exact same thing to Germany, unless the Nazis figured out a way to prevent them, which was what operation Barbarossa was all about = Truth

    So exactly what you mean by the "Nazi agenda" is curious.


    I am not convinced that German Jews who served with due rigor in WWI to advance Germany’s goals suddenly turned on their fellows.
     
    did I say they had?

    straw man much?


    German Jews did what they could to demonstrate their fealty to Germany and singling hem out for any reason was peculiar.
     
    did I ever say they didn't?

    From what I understand, over a hundred thousand Jews served in the Wehrmacht in World War II. Which, if true, would make a mockery of the blood libel lie that the Nazis wanted to exterminate all the Jews'.

    Just like today, it wasn't the typical Jewish tailor or dentist who was a threat to Germany, just as it's not the typical Jewish dentist or businessman in America that is a threat to anyone. No Elite, those are just more hysterical lies from the fount of lies that are our media and so on.

    The truth is that there are a handful of very wealthy and powerful Jews, who- along with sinister Gentiles like Churchill and FDR, Bush, Blair, Clinton, Obama, May, Macron and now Donald J. Trump, conspire with these wealthy and powerful Jewish supremacist, Zionist interests to foist wars for fun and profit. The typical Jew is no more guilty than the typical WASP. Except in both cases though their craven and complicit silence.


    And contrary to your comments, Christ wants Jews in the faith not out.
     
    so you know what God Himself wants, eh?

    talk to Him recently did ya?


    So any attempt to purge Jews from a life with Christ is a fundamental contradiction to Christ himself.
     
    um.. dumb ass

    it's the Jews themselves who're purging themselves from a life with Christ, dumb ass. Not me.

    you've set up quite a lot of straw men there, but I must say, my having attempted to purge Jews from Christ, is the cake.

    Whoo boy.

    “Did I say I was for abolishing Israel? ….. No, I did not.”

    Too bad.

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    “Did I say I was for abolishing Israel? ….. No, I did not.”

     

    Too bad.

     

    Israel is a reality on the ground. There are millions of Israelis there that have made a life for themselves, and I don't know of any place that would be willing to take them, do you?

    now would I allow the Right of Return?

    absolutely!

    and many, many other things as well. Including massive reparations, and other things, that might not be popular with some Zionists, but I really don't consider dismantling Israel as a realistic goal.

    Jews and Muslims and Christians lived in that land for centuries in relative harmony, before the rabid Jewish supremacist terrorists = Zionists started their rapine.

    Once that mentality is as repudiated as the Nazis were, and the most egregious war criminals hanged by the neck, then I believe that these people can return to a life of reconciliation and peace.

    Jews live in Iran and have for centuries in dignity and peace. Jews live in many places just fine, and get along just fine.
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  190. @EliteCommInc.
    I am referencing Israel as a state and her place. I am not an advocate of abolishing Israel or silencing or any manner engaging discriminating against Jews from the public square in the US or the international community.


    I cannot condone the actions of Nazi Germany. And by that I mean the entire Nazi agenda. I am not convinced that German Jews who served with due rigor in WWI to advance Germany's goals suddenly turned on their fellows. I could be wrong, but German Jews did what they could to demonstrate their fealty to Germany and singling hem out for any reason was peculiar.

    And contrary to your comments, Christ wants Jews in the faith not out. So any attempt to purge Jews from a life with Christ is a fundamental contradiction to Christ himself.

    I cannot condone the actions of Nazi Germany. And by that I mean the entire Nazi agenda.

    Tell us about that agenda.

    I always thought they were anti-Bolshie and had to defend themselves in a very difficult time and in a very rough neighborhood.

    What would you have done with Reds raising Hell everywhere and the Bolshies committing hideous crimes at your back door for at least 15 years before yo got into power.

    I’d like to hear your opinion of the International Commie agenda and the agendas of the Red appeasers and suck-ups, FDR and Churchill.

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    Good grief,


    WWII was soley the fault of Austria and Germany pressing Serbia to give up those involved in an assassination -- which in my view was fine, but Austria demanding to involved in state on that process -- was never going to fly. In otherwords, they made demands they would not be granted or should have known and proceeded to make their case for war.

    During the war German and Austrian Jews fought as willingly and resolutely as other Germans and Austrians against the allied powers. The pretense that the Jews were responsible for Germany's woes is based on a lot of tangential circumstantial evidence and it has been repeated here ad nauseum. The collapse of the economy had nothing to do with Jewish manipulation. The collapse was international, that Germany suffered more as the result of reparation demands is accurate. Most of Germany's bankers were not Jews, nor did Jews have the final say in borrowing money from wall Street banks.

    The Nazis according to previous discussions on this matter actually used the Jews financiers to bankroll their rearmament campaign and other projects. Now that evidence was used as evidence that the Nazis did not persecute the Jews -- in the exact same discussions in which the argument was posited that the Jews deserved what they got ---

    Now I pointed that out the time but did not press it. But you cannot decry the contradictions in reasoning of others and excuse when its on your table made and delivered by the advocates against Judaism.


    -----------------------------------

    Now as I have made clear, getting side tracked on whether the Nazis and Germans killed 6 million or one million or even less is not consequential for me in discussing US support for Israel. Israel has US support, but that support should not be a blanket countenance of whatever Israel does or says and I will not be held hostage to guilt about the holocaust as an attempt to stop that discussion. Nor will I be held to Mount McKinley/Denali task of dismantling the holocaust in order to make a case that Israel should not be allowed to use US support as cover for violations of ethics or international law.

    Holding Israel to account does not require dismantling the holocaust. Now people of course are more than happy to give it a go. But that debate serves to cloud the matter at hand. And that matter is not the holocaust.

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  191. Nobody denied or denies that in WWII jews were persecuted, killed near their homes, deported, or died in concentration camps.

    Even if they were not persecuted, stories about it would have been invented. Very little persecution happened, I think, and if any did, you can bet it was exaggerated luridly. Reed says that the Nazis were primarily anti-Bolshie, and the story got twisted and morphed into their being “anti-Semitic” for obvious reasons.

    The following is a more likely scenario than the ones we’ve been propagandized into believing.

    The new [Jewish] prosperity was born in rearmament, and that was begun in the name of anti-Communism and anti-Semitism. Abyssinia, Spain and China have already shown that the new armaments race spells death, not for Jews, but for indiscriminate millions of helpless Gentiles, Africans, Chinese and whatnot. The profits from the armaments race will go largely into the pockets of Jews, because of their preponderant share in retail trade… Such is Hitler’s achievement in the cause of antiSemitism.
    I was talking one day to Z, a Jewish journalist expelled from Germany who has settled in Vienna, where he has a pleasant home and a motor car. He talked with bitter resentment of Germany. ‘Ah’, he complained, ‘the Poles murdered us, but the Germans have robbed us’, and it was quite clear from his tone which was the worse thing for him. Then he told me how his son was still working for a big German film company in Berlin and had thrice had his salary raised to induce him not to leave and emigrate, as he desired, wishing to join his father. The Jews. As I write, in Vienna, they are all about me, watching with non-committal, veiled, appraising eyes the comedy that is going on in Insanity Fair. They know that when Hitlerism has passed away they will still be trading in the Kärntnerstrasse.

    -Douglas Reed, Insanity Fair (1938), chapter 17

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  192. Z-man says:

    With all this recalling of the Bolsheviks killing millions of Russians and other Slavs it amazes me that Putin even lets Netanyahu come into his country. He’s there now officially to commemorate the Soviet victory over Germany but ostensibly to tell Putin that he will attack Syria whenever he wants. Putin should tell him to take a flying leap.
    Israel is the problem, Palestine is the solution.

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    Jews can be blamed for their involvement with the Bolsheviks , but they got a lot of help from the minorities of the Russian empire, do in no small part to having very bad leadership in Russia. Russification of Finland was particularly stupid. They were quite loyal to the empire. I am all for pacification when the minority is hostile , dysfunctional and separatist. Russia liberalized too slowly and it cost them, especially since it was obvious they were under attack from Western powers.
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  193. Art says:
    @Momus
    Jews are a special case because of the relative numbers killed and because of their massively disproportionate contribution to the greater good of mankind.

    Jews are a special case because of the relative numbers killed and because of their massively disproportionate contribution to the greater good of mankind.

    You mean like the contribution of communism – 100’s of millions of people lived poor unfree lives because of the ideas of the Jew – Marx. Millions died under the tyranny of the commies. Marx traded one yoke for an ever more crushing yoke.

    When it comes to knowledge of human affairs, Jews always get it wrong. They always see the dark side of humanity. They make laws to crush the bad – but it never works. The more laws that exist, the more dysfunctional the society is. Commie Russia and China had a million laws and regulations against freedom and human nature itself.

    The only way forward is to see the bright and productive side of the human spirit and to pursue that. The idealism of philosophical Christianity does that better than any other thought system.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope — Art

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  194. gwynedd1 says:
    @Rurik

    Israel wants to oust President Basher Assad’s government from Syria, install a Zionist Jew-friendly “authoritarian” dictatorship,
     
    Hey Brother Chuck,

    I don't think Israel wants Syria to be ruled by a dictatorship, as that would mean stability. And they want instability. They want for Syria to come apart at the seams, so obviously they can steal the Golan Heights, and also (very importantly) see the people of Syria descend into a virtual hell on earth, in exactly the same way Libya has descended into a hell on earth.

    They want to see the Syrian people suffer, just as they get off making the Palestinians suffer, just as they enjoy knowing the suffering they caused the people of Iraq. That is fundamental to their expression of the Jewish supremacist id; that if a nation (or individual- like that 90 year old woman) opposes the supremacist will of the Jewish people, that they will suffer. Like the Germans suffered, or the Russian suffered under their Bolshevik iron boot.

    Their collective id and identity is based on the divinity of the Jewish people, and all those who don't bow down to them must be made to do so, or endure the wrath of their uniquely satanic capacity to hate.

    The Syrian people have refused to bow down, just as the Germans refused to bow down, just as the Iraqi people refused, and the Iranian people continue to be an affront to the Fiend, and refuse to get on their knees and worship the Jewish people as god on this earth, like the Christian Zionists do, and the American congress does, and the European politicians all do.

    If it's good enough for Macron and the president of the ZUSA! then why does this Putin fellow think he's immune!

    That segment with Putin in the video you posted, was beautiful.

    And demonstrated for all to see, exactly why ((they)) hate that man. Because what he said was the obvious, and glaring truth. The emperor has no clothes, and the criminal terrorists on the world's stage are the ZUSA, NATO and the zio-Jewish supremacist banksters behind it all.

    God bless Putin, God bless Brother Nathanael, and God bless you too Chuck, and all the other people who have the decency of character and moral courage to resist this Fiend, that is determined to see this 21st century be as murderous and savage as the last one was.

    It was the zio-Fiend that orchestrated the Bolshevik, Soviet horrors in the last century, resulting in catastrophic wars that engulfed Europa, and left Germany and so many other places in ashes. And they love what they did, and they'd love to do it all over again.

    That's why I call them the Fiend, because they love murder and horrors and suffering. They get off on causing suffering to others, it gives them infinite joy.

    And they've got their gnarled, twisted fingers gripped tight on the throat of mankind, demanding more and more and more wars, horrors, and suffering.

    I wonder if the chickens will ever come home to roost.

    Peace.

    My question is when will they stop coming home to roost? Judiasim is rather unique in a loathing for anything not in an inner circle as least to the degree of being so systematic. For there to be an inner circle there must be an outer circle. Jews end up in that outser circle all the time . There is an idea of endless cleansing..

    Romans 11 is an interesting chapter.

    “Lord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life”?[a] 4 But what does the divine response say to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal”

    Paul was a Jew with no particular love of other Jews.

    Nothing new:
    Zechariah 13
    “That two-thirds in it shall be cut off and die,
    But one–third shall be left in it:
    9
    I will bring the one–third through the fire,
    Will refine them as silver is refined,”
    And test them as gold is tested.”

    Jeremiah 24

    “The Lord showed me, and there were two baskets of figs set before the temple of the Lord, after Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon had carried away captive Jeconiah the son of Jehoiakim, king of Judah, and the princes of Judah with the craftsmen and smiths, from Jerusalem, and had brought them to Babylon. 2 One basket had very good figs, like the figs that are first ripe; and the other basket had very bad figs which could not be eaten, they were so bad. 3 Then the Lord said to me, “What do you see, Jeremiah?””

    Joseph was screwed by his brothers….etc

    Could be the desert religions needed to systematize the cyclical disasters .

    The question is will Judaism adhere to its “cleanse the bastards” roots or will it adhere to a Holocaust victim with gentiles in the outer circle only.

    I get the feeling that being surrounded by hostile Arabs might be the only thing keeping them safe from each other…

    But then that was not enough either:
    ” WHEN therefore Titus had marched over that desert which lies between Egypt and Syria, in the manner forementioned, he came to Cesarea, having resolved to set his forces in order at that place, before he began the war. Nay, indeed, while he was assisting his father at Alexandria, in settling that government which had been newly conferred upon them by God, it so happened that the sedition at Jerusalem was revived, and parted into three factions, and that one faction fought against the other; which partition in such evil cases may be said to be a good thing, and the effect of Divine justice. Now as to the attack the zealots made upon the people, and which I esteem the beginning of the city’s destruction, it hath been already explained after an accurate manner; as also whence it arose, and to how great a mischief it was increased. But for the present sedition, one should not mistake if he called it a sedition begotten by another sedition, and to be like a wild beast grown mad, which, for want of food from abroad, fell now upon eating its own flesh. ”
    -Josephus

    Christianity , a more tolerant, intolerant faith, but still seemed to inherent a good deal of the self loathing and intolerance. When there is a lot of something, like Pantheistic kinds of systems anything goes. When there is just one , then everyone must get it right. Those Nestorians and Gnostics were outer circle to Orthodoxy and the other way around.. And bad things are a coming too…end timer-ism…

    Islam is not safe from other Islamic sects just like Christians were more unsafe around other sects than they were the Turks or the Zoroastrians. Part of the reason the Eastern flank of the Byzantines was so weak was because of the sectarian Christian squabbles. Was Jesus flesh ? Did he have two wills or one etc .

    Judaism’s greatest plagues are its own false Messiahs like Jesus and Muhammad. Those are only the most famous. Sabbeteans and Frankists also joined the fun.

    I have little reason to think the cleansing will not continue among themselves.

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  195. gwynedd1 says:
    @Z-man
    With all this recalling of the Bolsheviks killing millions of Russians and other Slavs it amazes me that Putin even lets Netanyahu come into his country. He's there now officially to commemorate the Soviet victory over Germany but ostensibly to tell Putin that he will attack Syria whenever he wants. Putin should tell him to take a flying leap.
    Israel is the problem, Palestine is the solution.

    Jews can be blamed for their involvement with the Bolsheviks , but they got a lot of help from the minorities of the Russian empire, do in no small part to having very bad leadership in Russia. Russification of Finland was particularly stupid. They were quite loyal to the empire. I am all for pacification when the minority is hostile , dysfunctional and separatist. Russia liberalized too slowly and it cost them, especially since it was obvious they were under attack from Western powers.

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  196. Rurik says:
    @RobinG
    "Did I say I was for abolishing Israel? ..... No, I did not."

    Too bad.

    “Did I say I was for abolishing Israel? ….. No, I did not.”

    Too bad.

    Israel is a reality on the ground. There are millions of Israelis there that have made a life for themselves, and I don’t know of any place that would be willing to take them, do you?

    now would I allow the Right of Return?

    absolutely!

    and many, many other things as well. Including massive reparations, and other things, that might not be popular with some Zionists, but I really don’t consider dismantling Israel as a realistic goal.

    Jews and Muslims and Christians lived in that land for centuries in relative harmony, before the rabid Jewish supremacist terrorists = Zionists started their rapine.

    Once that mentality is as repudiated as the Nazis were, and the most egregious war criminals hanged by the neck, then I believe that these people can return to a life of reconciliation and peace.

    Jews live in Iran and have for centuries in dignity and peace. Jews live in many places just fine, and get along just fine.

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    rurik: "now would I allow the Right of Return? absolutely!"

    That would mean the end of the Zionist entity as such, and a huge % of "israelis" would very much desire to immigrate, if the right of return was exercised, as it should be.

    As of now, without the large number of refugees in neighboring countries, there are already more Palestinians than Jews in 'Israel'.

    Rurik: Jews live in Iran and have for centuries in dignity and peace. Jews live in many places just fine, and get along just fine.
     
    Right, sure... so, you would not object to many Jews from Israel moving to the ZUS, then, right? plenty of space there....

    The fact that Jews live in peace in Iran is largely because they do not really hold any real political power there...

    Anyway, 'israel' should really be dissolved, the Jews who desire to remain should be allowed to stay in Palestine and live as equals with the indigenous majority... the ones who don't want that, should get the hell out...

    The problems re organized Jewry will continue to exist, but at least the risk of major war for the benefit of the zio entity would be removed.
    , @Z-man

    and many, many other things as well. Including massive reparations, and other things, that might not be popular with some Zionists, but I really don’t consider dismantling Israel as a realistic goal.
     
    Why not. One unified state with Palestinians and Israelis having one person one vote. With international oversight it could be done.
    The Arab world has grudgingly accepted a two state solution but the Zionists aren't even giving up an inch of the West Bank, so other solutions must be used.
    , @RobinG
    As soon as they have true equal rights, that will be dismantling, or abolishing Israel, as far as Zionists are concerned. Without Jewish superiority and exclusivity, it's just not Israel.

    It's no more unrealistic than the 2-state nonsense. It's what NK campaign for. It may happen incrementally, over a long time. Or it may happen suddenly, surprise! It's counterintuitive, but who knows, DJT may do it. My bet is on 2021. (The "Israelis" don't have to go anywhere, unless they want to.)

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  197. L.K says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)

    Books by former Birkenau women inmates
     
    Decisively prove that Birkenau the very epicenter of the alleged Shoah was not an extermination camp. Jesus we were led to believe that Hitler murdered every Jew he could lay his hands on and then we have these millions of survivors. How stupid have you to be to believe in this crap. Whatever happened to your bullshit detector?

    There were also “witnesses” to the several “gassings” the Syrian government has been accused of during the imposed war on Syria.

    “utu” must believe in those as well…

    Actually, ‘utu’ is merely a lying little troll, who is on record here at Unz stating that propaganda(lying) is ok if it advances one’s goals, as long as one can get away with it…

    The insect is virulently against holocau$t revisionism and has ridiculously tried to organize a ‘petition’ to get ‘wally’ banned from the Unz webzine.

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    The insect is virulently against holocau$t revisionism and has ridiculously tried to organize a ‘petition’ to get ‘wally’ banned from the Unz webzine.
     
    The White nationalist movement should be very careful about Jewish infiltration, they are masters at the art of subversion.
    , @Wally
    said:
    "The insect is virulently against holocau$t revisionism and has ridiculously tried to organize a ‘petition’ to get ‘wally’ banned from the Unz webzine."

    That certainly tells me I'm / we're getting through big time.

    It also tells me that 'utu' has no answer for what I post other than name calling and demands for censorship.
    A review of his posts absolutely proves that.
    This says it all:


    The 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged supremacist Jews demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.
    Only liars demand censorship.
     
    Revisionists are just the messengers, the impossibility of the stupid 'holocaust' storyline is the message.

    www.codoh.com

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  198. L.K says:
    @Rurik


    “Did I say I was for abolishing Israel? ….. No, I did not.”

     

    Too bad.

     

    Israel is a reality on the ground. There are millions of Israelis there that have made a life for themselves, and I don't know of any place that would be willing to take them, do you?

    now would I allow the Right of Return?

    absolutely!

    and many, many other things as well. Including massive reparations, and other things, that might not be popular with some Zionists, but I really don't consider dismantling Israel as a realistic goal.

    Jews and Muslims and Christians lived in that land for centuries in relative harmony, before the rabid Jewish supremacist terrorists = Zionists started their rapine.

    Once that mentality is as repudiated as the Nazis were, and the most egregious war criminals hanged by the neck, then I believe that these people can return to a life of reconciliation and peace.

    Jews live in Iran and have for centuries in dignity and peace. Jews live in many places just fine, and get along just fine.

    rurik: “now would I allow the Right of Return? absolutely!”

    That would mean the end of the Zionist entity as such, and a huge % of “israelis” would very much desire to immigrate, if the right of return was exercised, as it should be.

    As of now, without the large number of refugees in neighboring countries, there are already more Palestinians than Jews in ‘Israel’.

    Rurik: Jews live in Iran and have for centuries in dignity and peace. Jews live in many places just fine, and get along just fine.

    Right, sure… so, you would not object to many Jews from Israel moving to the ZUS, then, right? plenty of space there….

    The fact that Jews live in peace in Iran is largely because they do not really hold any real political power there…

    Anyway, ‘israel’ should really be dissolved, the Jews who desire to remain should be allowed to stay in Palestine and live as equals with the indigenous majority… the ones who don’t want that, should get the hell out…

    The problems re organized Jewry will continue to exist, but at least the risk of major war for the benefit of the zio entity would be removed.

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    "....the risk of major war for the benefit of the zio entity would be removed."

    Exactly. If the Zionist entity were dissolved, the ((("Israelis"))) couldn't whine about being wiped off the map. Maybe the émigrés will go to China. :)

    .
    , @ChuckOrloski
    L.K. wrote:. "The fact that Jews live in peace in Iran is largely because they do not really hold any real political power there…"

    Hi L.K.,

    Just want to add slight perspective to your thoughtful sentence, above.

    Some Orthodox Jews do not like Zionist global politics at all. Below is a video that I linked "Many Moons" ago to U.R. comment section. You will see Mr. Ahmadinejad exchange pleasantries & goodwill with rabbis.

    https://youtu.be/R-r04SQ97_Q

    In addition, L.K., as the title of this article clearly focused upon ZUS Congress's # 1 full-time job priority, I am a bit disappointed with comments (to date) that have yet to zero-in on PreZident Trump's decision to betray the internationally popular JCOPA.

    We know exactly what is PreZident Trump's # 1, "full time" job assignment, eh? And only billionaire elite & secular US Jews can say, "You're fired, Donald!

    Thanks.
    , @Rurik

    Right, sure… so, you would not object to many Jews from Israel moving to the ZUS, then, right? plenty of space there….
     
    I was thinking Brazil

    there's a lot of space, it's got good weather, and it's already very diverse. A win / win all around?

    Anyway, ‘israel’ should really be dissolved, the Jews who desire to remain should be allowed to stay in Palestine and live as equals with the indigenous majority… the ones who don’t want that, should get the hell out…
     
    well this is just semantics then, as in what do we call the place?

    Rhodesia or Zimbabwe

    Personally I'd start by returning to the 1948 borders, Jerusalem under international control, and a Palestinian state in all the rest, with internationally administered relations.

    Removal of all nuclear weapons as a priority, and an immediate process for the Right of Return (or compensation) for all Arab refugees/victims of Zionist terrorism and theft.

    If eventually the division between the two nations melt away, and a harmony grows out of the ashes of the Likud, then all the better.

    I'm pretty sure Greasy Williams would be on board with that, if he were here.
    , @anon
    L.K. wrote:. “The fact that Jews live in peace in Iran is largely because they do not really hold any real political power there


    Lot of minorties in a lot of palces including here in USA/Canad do not hold powers
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  199. @jacques sheete

    I cannot condone the actions of Nazi Germany. And by that I mean the entire Nazi agenda.
     
    Tell us about that agenda.

    I always thought they were anti-Bolshie and had to defend themselves in a very difficult time and in a very rough neighborhood.

    What would you have done with Reds raising Hell everywhere and the Bolshies committing hideous crimes at your back door for at least 15 years before yo got into power.

    I'd like to hear your opinion of the International Commie agenda and the agendas of the Red appeasers and suck-ups, FDR and Churchill.

    Good grief,

    WWII was soley the fault of Austria and Germany pressing Serbia to give up those involved in an assassination — which in my view was fine, but Austria demanding to involved in state on that process — was never going to fly. In otherwords, they made demands they would not be granted or should have known and proceeded to make their case for war.

    During the war German and Austrian Jews fought as willingly and resolutely as other Germans and Austrians against the allied powers. The pretense that the Jews were responsible for Germany’s woes is based on a lot of tangential circumstantial evidence and it has been repeated here ad nauseum. The collapse of the economy had nothing to do with Jewish manipulation. The collapse was international, that Germany suffered more as the result of reparation demands is accurate. Most of Germany’s bankers were not Jews, nor did Jews have the final say in borrowing money from wall Street banks.

    The Nazis according to previous discussions on this matter actually used the Jews financiers to bankroll their rearmament campaign and other projects. Now that evidence was used as evidence that the Nazis did not persecute the Jews — in the exact same discussions in which the argument was posited that the Jews deserved what they got —

    Now I pointed that out the time but did not press it. But you cannot decry the contradictions in reasoning of others and excuse when its on your table made and delivered by the advocates against Judaism.

    ———————————–

    Now as I have made clear, getting side tracked on whether the Nazis and Germans killed 6 million or one million or even less is not consequential for me in discussing US support for Israel. Israel has US support, but that support should not be a blanket countenance of whatever Israel does or says and I will not be held hostage to guilt about the holocaust as an attempt to stop that discussion. Nor will I be held to Mount McKinley/Denali task of dismantling the holocaust in order to make a case that Israel should not be allowed to use US support as cover for violations of ethics or international law.

    Holding Israel to account does not require dismantling the holocaust. Now people of course are more than happy to give it a go. But that debate serves to cloud the matter at hand. And that matter is not the holocaust.

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    Pathetic comment as usual
    , @jacques sheete
    What are you trying to say? I think Kolo nailed it...

    This is totally off the wall, so I barely even skimmed the rest of your comment.:

    WWII was soley(sic) the fault of Austria and Germany pressing Serbia to give up those involved in an assassination
     
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  200. L.K says:

    How False Flag Operations Are Carried Out Today
    By Philip Giraldi , April 30, 2018

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/04/phil-giraldi/how-false-flag-operations-are-carried-out-today/

    False Flag is a concept that goes back centuries. It was considered to be a legitimate ploy by the Greeks and Romans, where a military force would pretend to be friendly to get close to an enemy before dropping the pretense and raising its banners to reveal its own affiliation just before launching an attack. In the sea battles of the eighteenth century among Spain, France and Britain hoisting an enemy flag instead of one’s own to confuse the opponent was considered to be a legitimate ruse de guerre, but it was only “honorable” if one reverted to one’s own flag before engaging in combat.

    Today’s false flag operations are generally carried out by intelligence agencies and non-government actors including terrorist groups, but they are only considered successful if the true attribution of an action remains secret. There is nothing honorable about them as their intention is to blame an innocent party for something that it did not do. There has been a lot of such activity lately and it was interesting to learn by way of a leak that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has developed a capability to mimic the internet fingerprints of other foreign intelligence services. …

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  201. Z-man says:
    @Rurik


    “Did I say I was for abolishing Israel? ….. No, I did not.”

     

    Too bad.

     

    Israel is a reality on the ground. There are millions of Israelis there that have made a life for themselves, and I don't know of any place that would be willing to take them, do you?

    now would I allow the Right of Return?

    absolutely!

    and many, many other things as well. Including massive reparations, and other things, that might not be popular with some Zionists, but I really don't consider dismantling Israel as a realistic goal.

    Jews and Muslims and Christians lived in that land for centuries in relative harmony, before the rabid Jewish supremacist terrorists = Zionists started their rapine.

    Once that mentality is as repudiated as the Nazis were, and the most egregious war criminals hanged by the neck, then I believe that these people can return to a life of reconciliation and peace.

    Jews live in Iran and have for centuries in dignity and peace. Jews live in many places just fine, and get along just fine.

    and many, many other things as well. Including massive reparations, and other things, that might not be popular with some Zionists, but I really don’t consider dismantling Israel as a realistic goal.

    Why not. One unified state with Palestinians and Israelis having one person one vote. With international oversight it could be done.
    The Arab world has grudgingly accepted a two state solution but the Zionists aren’t even giving up an inch of the West Bank, so other solutions must be used.

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    The Arab world has grudgingly accepted a two state solution but the Zionists aren’t even giving up an inch of the West Bank, so other solutions must be used.
     
    a majority of American Jews were polled who supported the Saudi peace plan, basically going back to the 67 borders, but as you said, the uber-Zionists say no way.
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  202. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Nobody denied or denies that in WWII jews were persecuted, killed near their homes, deported, or died in concentration camps.
    The discussion is whether people were killed in large numbers in gas chambers, by the insecticide Zyklon B.
    This discussion is most extraordinary, because reading a few books gives, in my opinion, the answer to if there were or were not gas chambers for people.
    These books also explain why most people, that entered concentration camps, died after some six months.
    Gas chambers for delousing clothes by Zyklon B were all over E Europe in WWII, where typhoid is endemic, and lice carry the disease.
    Delousing clothes took an hour and a half, see the last mentioned book.

    Richard Overy, ‘Interrogations, the Nazi elite in Allied hands, 1945’, London 2001

    Elie Wiesel, 'La Nuit', 1958, 2007

    Léon Poliakov, 'Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs', 1951, 1974, Paris

    Arthur R. Butz, ´The hoax of the twentieth century, The case against the presumed extermination of European Jewry’, Costa Mesa CA, 1977, 1989

    Raul Hilberg, ‘The destruction of the European Jews’, student edition, Teaneck, 1985

    Paul Rassinier, ´Was ist Wahrheit ?, Die Juden und das Dritte Reich´, Leoni am Starnberger See, 7th printing, 1981 (Le véritable procès Eichmann ou les vainqueurs incorrigibles, 1963; The Real Eichmann Trial or the Incorrigible Victors. ISBN: 0911038485, 1983)

    Eugen Kogon, ‘Der SS-Staat, Das System der deutschen Konzentrationslager’, 1974, München

    J.G. Burg, Schuld und Schicksal, Europas Juden zwischen Henkern und Heuchlern, München, 1962

    Otto Weidinger, ´Kameraden bis zum Ende, Das SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 4 „Der Führer“, 1978, 2007, Dresden

    Hello Jilles, you curiously said:

    “Nobody denied or denies that in WWII jews were persecuted, killed near their homes, deported, or died in concentration camps.”

    Let’s not try the equally fake & impossible ‘holocaust-lite’. A common occurrence by those who just can’t stop bowing down, those who can’t quite deal with their cognitive dissonance.
    It’s rather like the dumb & illogical ‘it doesn’t matter if it was 6 or 6,000,000, there was a ‘holocaust’.’

    Jews were no more persecuted in WWII than Japanese-Americans or Christians in the USSR.

    Not sure what is meant by “killed near their homes”.

    Regards.

    http://www.codoh.com

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    Poles and Lithuanians killed their jewish neighbours.
    Dan Jacobson, ‘Heschel’s Rijk, Familiekroniek’, Amsterdam, 1998
    describes the massacres perpetrated in Lithuania before the Germans were there.
    Jan T. Gross, ‘Neighbours, The Destruction of the Jewish Community in Jedwabne, Poland, 1941’, 2003, London
    Christopher R. Browning, ‘Ordinary Men, Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland’, 1992, 2001, London
    The last book even has pictures of jews being beaten to death in Kaunas, Lithuania.
    As to jews no more persecuted, the Netherlands had in 1940 some 120.000 jews, 20.000 of these recent refugees.
    The 20.000 most went into hiding, and survived.
    The 100.000 were deported, some 5000 returned.
    These are exact figures, the Dutch register of inhabitants did mention religion.
    In Polandn for example, the facts are hardly known, also because there was no real definition of what was a jew.
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  203. RobinG says:
    @Rurik


    “Did I say I was for abolishing Israel? ….. No, I did not.”

     

    Too bad.

     

    Israel is a reality on the ground. There are millions of Israelis there that have made a life for themselves, and I don't know of any place that would be willing to take them, do you?

    now would I allow the Right of Return?

    absolutely!

    and many, many other things as well. Including massive reparations, and other things, that might not be popular with some Zionists, but I really don't consider dismantling Israel as a realistic goal.

    Jews and Muslims and Christians lived in that land for centuries in relative harmony, before the rabid Jewish supremacist terrorists = Zionists started their rapine.

    Once that mentality is as repudiated as the Nazis were, and the most egregious war criminals hanged by the neck, then I believe that these people can return to a life of reconciliation and peace.

    Jews live in Iran and have for centuries in dignity and peace. Jews live in many places just fine, and get along just fine.

    As soon as they have true equal rights, that will be dismantling, or abolishing Israel, as far as Zionists are concerned. Without Jewish superiority and exclusivity, it’s just not Israel.

    It’s no more unrealistic than the 2-state nonsense. It’s what NK campaign for. It may happen incrementally, over a long time. Or it may happen suddenly, surprise! It’s counterintuitive, but who knows, DJT may do it. My bet is on 2021. (The “Israelis” don’t have to go anywhere, unless they want to.)

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  204. Correction: WWI was soley the fault of Austria and Germany pressing Serbia to give up those involved in an assassination . . .

    The disaster that followed could have been averted but there is no question that Germany rounded up Jews and removed from their homes with a clear purpose as has been stated repeatedly here — “punishing them” as threats to Germany. And has been repeated here numerous times that punishment was for being a threat to Germany. When there is little to no evidence that German Jews were in any committed to destroying Germany, even if some small number of Jews elsewhere were and that I think is suspect — but punishing German Jews was not going to resolve that matter.

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    When there is little to no evidence that German Jews were in any committed to destroying Germany

    Hmm --- so you are saying that pre WWII German Jews were not "Jews" - that they gave up their 2,000,000 year history of cultural parasitic appropriation of a country’s culture.

    Hmm - that is so hard to believe.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. Are Jews committed to destroying America today.

    p.s. Clearly that is what they are doing.
    , @renfro

    When there is little to no evidence that German Jews were in any committed to destroying Germany,
     
    Let me acquaint you with some facts.

    About 100,000 to 200,000 Jewish Bolsheviks fled to Germany from Russia---that is where Hitlers "dislike' of Jews came from....Bolshevism. He feared they would start up Bolshevism in Germany.

    And they did ..or at least attempted to.

    There were two Jew led communist movements in Germany prior to the Jew clamp down...they included violence and murders. And in one instance their mob broke into the gov house declaring they were now in charge. One Jew leader was executed, the other escaped but was later found dead.

    , @jacques sheete
    Good grief...

    Correction: WWI was soley(sic) the fault of Austria and Germany pressing Serbia to give up those involved in an assassination . . .
     
    Your "correction" is as erroneous as the original, and people have long ago debunked that inanely superficial analysis including many who realized the foolishness of it, contemporaneously, even!

    A.J. Nock's "The Myth of a Guilty Nation" is a classic and so is this.:


    To explain the causes of the war we must find the causes of the alliances of England, France and Russia against Germany.

    For the cause of the war is that alliance—that and nothing else. The defence of the Entente Cordiale is that it is an innocent pact of friendship, designed only to meet the threat of the Triple Alliance. [pg 6]But the answer to that is that whereas the Triple Alliance was formed thirty years ago, it has never declared war on anyone, while the Triple Entente before it is eight years old has involved Europe, America, Africa, and Asia in a world conflict. We must find the motive for England allying herself with France and Russia in an admittedly anti-German "understanding" ...When that motive is apparent we shall realise who it was preferred war to peace and how impossible it is to hope for any certain peace ensuing from the victory of those who ensured an appeal to arms.

    -Roger Casement, The Crime Against Europe: A Possible Outcome of the War of 1914, p (1915)
    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14728/14728-h/14728-h.htm
     

    You may want to consider reading both of those works before you decide to parrot century old and very sappy, war propaganda.

    Here, chew on these.:


    Why, my fellow citizens, is there any man here or any woman, let me say is there any child here, who does not know that the seed of war in the modern world is industrial and commercial rivalry…and the reason why some nations went into the war against Germany was that they thought Germany would get the commercial advantage of them. The seed of the jealousy, the seed of the deep-seated hatred was hot, successful commercial and industrial rivalry…
    This war, in its inception was a commercial and industrial war. It was not a political war.
    -Woodrow Wilson, Address at the Coliseum in St. Louis, Missouri, September 5, 1919
    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=117365
     

    [Lloyd George] said, “ The truth is that we have got our way. We have got most of the things we set out to get. If you had told the British people twelve months ago that they would have secured what they have, they would have laughed you to scorn. The German Navy has been handed over; the German mercantile shipping has been handed over, and the German colonies have been given up. One of our chief trade competitors has been most seriously crippled and our Allies are about to become her biggest creditors. That is no small achievement. In addition, we have destroyed the menace to our Indian possessions.”

    -David Lloyd George, as quoted in LORD RIDDELL’S INTIMATE DIARY OF THE PEACE CONFERENCE AND AFTER , 1918—1923, p 42 (diary entry of 30 March 1919).

    https://archive.org/stream/in.ernet.dli.2015.189747/2015.189747.Lord-Riddells-Intimate-Diary-Of-The-Peace-Conference-And-After_djvu.txt

     

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  205. Wally says:
    @Momus
    Jews are a special case because of the relative numbers killed and because of their massively disproportionate contribution to the greater good of mankind.

    You cannot be serious. WTF?

    You’re beyond indoctrinated.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  206. Kolo says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    Good grief,


    WWII was soley the fault of Austria and Germany pressing Serbia to give up those involved in an assassination -- which in my view was fine, but Austria demanding to involved in state on that process -- was never going to fly. In otherwords, they made demands they would not be granted or should have known and proceeded to make their case for war.

    During the war German and Austrian Jews fought as willingly and resolutely as other Germans and Austrians against the allied powers. The pretense that the Jews were responsible for Germany's woes is based on a lot of tangential circumstantial evidence and it has been repeated here ad nauseum. The collapse of the economy had nothing to do with Jewish manipulation. The collapse was international, that Germany suffered more as the result of reparation demands is accurate. Most of Germany's bankers were not Jews, nor did Jews have the final say in borrowing money from wall Street banks.

    The Nazis according to previous discussions on this matter actually used the Jews financiers to bankroll their rearmament campaign and other projects. Now that evidence was used as evidence that the Nazis did not persecute the Jews -- in the exact same discussions in which the argument was posited that the Jews deserved what they got ---

    Now I pointed that out the time but did not press it. But you cannot decry the contradictions in reasoning of others and excuse when its on your table made and delivered by the advocates against Judaism.


    -----------------------------------

    Now as I have made clear, getting side tracked on whether the Nazis and Germans killed 6 million or one million or even less is not consequential for me in discussing US support for Israel. Israel has US support, but that support should not be a blanket countenance of whatever Israel does or says and I will not be held hostage to guilt about the holocaust as an attempt to stop that discussion. Nor will I be held to Mount McKinley/Denali task of dismantling the holocaust in order to make a case that Israel should not be allowed to use US support as cover for violations of ethics or international law.

    Holding Israel to account does not require dismantling the holocaust. Now people of course are more than happy to give it a go. But that debate serves to cloud the matter at hand. And that matter is not the holocaust.

    Pathetic comment as usual

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  207. RobinG says:
    @L.K
    rurik: "now would I allow the Right of Return? absolutely!"

    That would mean the end of the Zionist entity as such, and a huge % of "israelis" would very much desire to immigrate, if the right of return was exercised, as it should be.

    As of now, without the large number of refugees in neighboring countries, there are already more Palestinians than Jews in 'Israel'.

    Rurik: Jews live in Iran and have for centuries in dignity and peace. Jews live in many places just fine, and get along just fine.
     
    Right, sure... so, you would not object to many Jews from Israel moving to the ZUS, then, right? plenty of space there....

    The fact that Jews live in peace in Iran is largely because they do not really hold any real political power there...

    Anyway, 'israel' should really be dissolved, the Jews who desire to remain should be allowed to stay in Palestine and live as equals with the indigenous majority... the ones who don't want that, should get the hell out...

    The problems re organized Jewry will continue to exist, but at least the risk of major war for the benefit of the zio entity would be removed.

    “….the risk of major war for the benefit of the zio entity would be removed.”

    Exactly. If the Zionist entity were dissolved, the (((“Israelis”))) couldn’t whine about being wiped off the map. Maybe the émigrés will go to China. :)

    .

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    Maybe the émigrés will go to China.
     
    That would be a good thing as they would stand out like a sore thumb and all their mischief would be visible.

    Sadly they will go to Europe or come here to my backyard - as if we both don't already have a massive jewish problem with their boots on our collective neck.

    There is no good solution for Israel and the rest of us.
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  208. Art says:
    @Realist

    How long are people going to continue to buy Trump’s virtue signaling that promotes and justifies confrontation?
     
    Too many Americans are really stupid and shallow.

    How long are people going to continue to buy Trump’s virtue signaling that promotes and justifies confrontation?

    Too many Americans are really stupid and shallow.

    To many intellectual Americans are coerced by the Jews.

    The Jews do not allow a real genuine peace movement to get started.

    All we need to attain peace, is a 10% movement among the intellectual elite.

    The Jew MSM will ignore and starve any such peace movement.

    The dark Jews will give NO air time to peace.

    Think Peace — Art

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    To many intellectual Americans are coerced by the Jews.
     
    Americans are not coerced by Jews. Jews are only 2.2% of our population. Many Americans are out smarted by Jews. Jews buy our politicians and Americans allow it.
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  209. Incitatus says:
    @anarchyst
    I stand by my statements. Yes, I am an engineer--not a "professional engineer" but an electrical engineer that does not require permission from the state...
    Mr. Leuchter was harassed on the direction of those of the "tribe".
    His "line of work" did not require a license or permission from the state. Are you aware that an engineer is anyone who designs equipment or has expertise in engineering work? There are many subspecialties of engineering, many people in those disciplines who do not hold engineering licenses. The "professional engineer" designation is for those who have passed testing in ALL engineering disciplines, mechanical, electrical, etc...nothing more. There is a big difference between the "professional engineering" discipline and those who practice subspecialties of engineering. Only the "professional engineer" designation requires licensure.
    Mr. Leuchter IS an electrical engineer in the specialty of execution machinery, regardless of license. There are very few engineers who have his expertise in that aspect of engineering.
    ...

    “Mr. Leuchter IS an electrical engineer…”

    Leuchter has a BA in history from BU. Does he also have a professional degree? What qualifies him as an engineer? Working in executions when states had few consulting requirements (other than killing the condemned)? Experience is great, but dead customers can’t rate Fred’s ‘expertise’.

    Seems likely states upgraded RFPs to require professional status. Typical in many disciples over the last fifty years. Fred could have partnered with a licensed engineer (common), but apparently didn’t. He lied. He lied again about the law never being enforced. Why?

    “His “line of work” did not require a license or permission from the state…”

    Then why did he admit “having represented himself as one”?

    Generally licenses are required in any work affecting public safety. Including electrical engineering. From the MA website:

    Engineers practice in many areas, including (but not limited to):
    • chemical
    • civil
    • environmental
    electrical
    • mechanical
    • structural
    • agricultural
    • aeronautical/aerospace
    • fire protection
    • manufacturing
    • industrial
    • nuclear
    • petroleum
    • safety

    https://www.mass.gov/orgs/board-of-registration-of-professional-engineers-and-land-surveyors

    People can’t represent themselves as such (as Fred did) unless they have a license and keep it current. Thus the action to which he pleaded guilty.

    “Mr. Leuchter was harassed on the direction of those of the “tribe”.”

    Jewish antipathy is hardly surprising, given Fred’s assertions and associations (e.g. Ernst ‘The Hitler We Loved and Why’ Zündel). Cats and dogs fighting again. But many are prosecuted for fraudulent unlicensed practice. Three so far this year in Massachusetts. Are they hounded by the “tribe”? Doubt it.

    Anarchyst, you’re welcome to your opinions. Disagree with most, but it doesn’t bother me. Knock yourself out. You’d have stronger spam if you cut out the bit about Fred alone being persecuted by a dormant statute, lack of license requirements and other bogus tearjerkers.

    Maybe Fred’s an expert, maybe not. One thing’s on the record: he’s a liar. Sorry.

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    Incitatus, you just do not know what you are talking about.
    You're in way over your head.
    Here are the facts:

    The Leuchter Report Vindicated
    A Response to J.-C. Pressac's Critique

    By Paul Grubach
    https://codoh.com/library/document/988/?lang=en
    and:
    Kenneth Stern's Critique of The Leuchter Report: A Critical Analysis
    By Daniel D. Desjardins
    https://codoh.com/library/document/708/?lang=en

    see tons more:
    https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=leuchter+

    Only liars demand censorship.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com
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  210. Art says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    Correction: WWI was soley the fault of Austria and Germany pressing Serbia to give up those involved in an assassination . . .



    The disaster that followed could have been averted but there is no question that Germany rounded up Jews and removed from their homes with a clear purpose as has been stated repeatedly here -- "punishing them" as threats to Germany. And has been repeated here numerous times that punishment was for being a threat to Germany. When there is little to no evidence that German Jews were in any committed to destroying Germany, even if some small number of Jews elsewhere were and that I think is suspect --- but punishing German Jews was not going to resolve that matter.

    When there is little to no evidence that German Jews were in any committed to destroying Germany

    Hmm — so you are saying that pre WWII German Jews were not “Jews” – that they gave up their 2,000,000 year history of cultural parasitic appropriation of a country’s culture.

    Hmm – that is so hard to believe.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Are Jews committed to destroying America today.

    p.s. Clearly that is what they are doing.

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    When there is little to no evidence that German Jews were in any committed to destroying Germany
     
    To The EliteCommit guy

    Perhaps you should do some goggling for reports and observations of the Jew pre WWII by many news reporters and government officials, emissaries and other travelers from the US, England, France, Belgium, etc.etc..
    In their reports and first hand observations you can see the effect of Jews in Germany.
    I would provide them but I am tired of trying to teach history to those not interested enough in it to do the real research.

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  211. @L.K
    rurik: "now would I allow the Right of Return? absolutely!"

    That would mean the end of the Zionist entity as such, and a huge % of "israelis" would very much desire to immigrate, if the right of return was exercised, as it should be.

    As of now, without the large number of refugees in neighboring countries, there are already more Palestinians than Jews in 'Israel'.

    Rurik: Jews live in Iran and have for centuries in dignity and peace. Jews live in many places just fine, and get along just fine.
     
    Right, sure... so, you would not object to many Jews from Israel moving to the ZUS, then, right? plenty of space there....

    The fact that Jews live in peace in Iran is largely because they do not really hold any real political power there...

    Anyway, 'israel' should really be dissolved, the Jews who desire to remain should be allowed to stay in Palestine and live as equals with the indigenous majority... the ones who don't want that, should get the hell out...

    The problems re organized Jewry will continue to exist, but at least the risk of major war for the benefit of the zio entity would be removed.

    L.K. wrote:. “The fact that Jews live in peace in Iran is largely because they do not really hold any real political power there…”

    Hi L.K.,

    Just want to add slight perspective to your thoughtful sentence, above.

    Some Orthodox Jews do not like Zionist global politics at all. Below is a video that I linked “Many Moons” ago to U.R. comment section. You will see Mr. Ahmadinejad exchange pleasantries & goodwill with rabbis.

    In addition, L.K., as the title of this article clearly focused upon ZUS Congress’s # 1 full-time job priority, I am a bit disappointed with comments (to date) that have yet to zero-in on PreZident Trump’s decision to betray the internationally popular JCOPA.

    We know exactly what is PreZident Trump’s # 1, “full time” job assignment, eh? And only billionaire elite & secular US Jews can say, “You’re fired, Donald!

    Thanks.

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    Hey Chuck,
    Chuck:

    Some Orthodox Jews do not like Zionist global politics at all.
     
    True that, but they are few and powerless.

    Chuck:

    In addition, L.K., as the title of this article clearly focused upon ZUS Congress’s # 1 full-time job priority, I am a bit disappointed with comments (to date) that have yet to zero-in on PreZident Trump’s decision to betray the internationally popular JCOPA.

     

    True. But if anything, this is one of the few campaign promises the orange imbecile has NOT betrayed... I remember he was always talking sh*t about the deal & how horrible it was, nieh, nieh...

    B, a retired German army officer, wrote a good piece about this:
    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/05/trump-ends-the-nuclear-deal-with-iran-whats-next.html


    Trump Ends The Nuclear Deal With Iran - What's Next?

    With a very belligerent speech Trump nixed the nuclear deal with Iran. He also lied a lot in it. Neither is a surprise. The United States only keeps agreements as long as they are to its short term advantage - just ask native Americans. One can never count on the U.S. to keep its word.

    Trump will reimpose U.S. sanctions on Iran because:

    .The nuclear deal was negotiated by the Obama administration and thus must be bad;
    .Israel wants to keep Iran as the boogeyman;
    .the Zionists and right wing nuts in the U.S. want the U.S. to attack Iran;
    .MAGA - Trump needs Iran as enemy of the Gulf states to sell more U.S. weapons.

    Three European countries, Britain, France and Germany, were naive enough to think they could prevent this. The EU3 offered the U.S. to put additional sanctions on Iran for other pretended reason - ballistic missiles and the Iranian engagement in Syria. I was disgusted when I first read of the plan. It was obvious from the beginning that it would only discredit these countries AND fail.

    Luckily Italy and some eastern European countries shot the effort down at the EU level. They were not willing to sacrifice their credibility over the issue. The nuclear agreement was signed and should be followed by all sides. They pointed out that there was no guarantee from Trump that any additional European effort would change his view.[...]
     
    Best wishes
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  212. Rurik says:
    @L.K
    rurik: "now would I allow the Right of Return? absolutely!"

    That would mean the end of the Zionist entity as such, and a huge % of "israelis" would very much desire to immigrate, if the right of return was exercised, as it should be.

    As of now, without the large number of refugees in neighboring countries, there are already more Palestinians than Jews in 'Israel'.

    Rurik: Jews live in Iran and have for centuries in dignity and peace. Jews live in many places just fine, and get along just fine.
     
    Right, sure... so, you would not object to many Jews from Israel moving to the ZUS, then, right? plenty of space there....

    The fact that Jews live in peace in Iran is largely because they do not really hold any real political power there...

    Anyway, 'israel' should really be dissolved, the Jews who desire to remain should be allowed to stay in Palestine and live as equals with the indigenous majority... the ones who don't want that, should get the hell out...

    The problems re organized Jewry will continue to exist, but at least the risk of major war for the benefit of the zio entity would be removed.

    Right, sure… so, you would not object to many Jews from Israel moving to the ZUS, then, right? plenty of space there….

    I was thinking Brazil

    there’s a lot of space, it’s got good weather, and it’s already very diverse. A win / win all around?

    Anyway, ‘israel’ should really be dissolved, the Jews who desire to remain should be allowed to stay in Palestine and live as equals with the indigenous majority… the ones who don’t want that, should get the hell out…

    well this is just semantics then, as in what do we call the place?

    Rhodesia or Zimbabwe

    Personally I’d start by returning to the 1948 borders, Jerusalem under international control, and a Palestinian state in all the rest, with internationally administered relations.

    Removal of all nuclear weapons as a priority, and an immediate process for the Right of Return (or compensation) for all Arab refugees/victims of Zionist terrorism and theft.

    If eventually the division between the two nations melt away, and a harmony grows out of the ashes of the Likud, then all the better.

    I’m pretty sure Greasy Williams would be on board with that, if he were here.

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    Rurik:

    Brazil... there’s a lot of space, it’s got good weather, and it’s already very diverse. A win / win all around?
     
    All items available in the ZUS, space, good weather, lotsa diversity... plus, possibly the largest Jew community on earth! No way of knowing for sure, but there is a chance it could be as large or larger than the one in IsraHell...

    But, in the end, it does not matter at all where you( or me) would like the Israeli Jews to move to...
    Push comes to shove, if the zio project fails, Israeli Jews, particularly the Ashkenazi, would choose to move to, in the following order:
    1. ZUSA( and Canada... that ZUS outpost...)
    2. A few select European countries,... and Germany , very unfortunately, would probably be one of them...
    3. Russia( lots of russian joos in israel) and a few other locations, such as Ukraine, some perhaps ending up in Argentina, Brazil, etc...

    The rest of your post is simply more fantasy...
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  213. @RobinG
    "....the risk of major war for the benefit of the zio entity would be removed."

    Exactly. If the Zionist entity were dissolved, the ((("Israelis"))) couldn't whine about being wiped off the map. Maybe the émigrés will go to China. :)

    .

    Maybe the émigrés will go to China.

    That would be a good thing as they would stand out like a sore thumb and all their mischief would be visible.

    Sadly they will go to Europe or come here to my backyard – as if we both don’t already have a massive jewish problem with their boots on our collective neck.

    There is no good solution for Israel and the rest of us.

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  214. renfro says:
    @Art
    When there is little to no evidence that German Jews were in any committed to destroying Germany

    Hmm --- so you are saying that pre WWII German Jews were not "Jews" - that they gave up their 2,000,000 year history of cultural parasitic appropriation of a country’s culture.

    Hmm - that is so hard to believe.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. Are Jews committed to destroying America today.

    p.s. Clearly that is what they are doing.

    When there is little to no evidence that German Jews were in any committed to destroying Germany

    To The EliteCommit guy

    Perhaps you should do some goggling for reports and observations of the Jew pre WWII by many news reporters and government officials, emissaries and other travelers from the US, England, France, Belgium, etc.etc..
    In their reports and first hand observations you can see the effect of Jews in Germany.
    I would provide them but I am tired of trying to teach history to those not interested enough in it to do the real research.

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  215. Rurik says:
    @Z-man

    and many, many other things as well. Including massive reparations, and other things, that might not be popular with some Zionists, but I really don’t consider dismantling Israel as a realistic goal.
     
    Why not. One unified state with Palestinians and Israelis having one person one vote. With international oversight it could be done.
    The Arab world has grudgingly accepted a two state solution but the Zionists aren't even giving up an inch of the West Bank, so other solutions must be used.

    The Arab world has grudgingly accepted a two state solution but the Zionists aren’t even giving up an inch of the West Bank, so other solutions must be used.

    a majority of American Jews were polled who supported the Saudi peace plan, basically going back to the 67 borders, but as you said, the uber-Zionists say no way.

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  216. renfro says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    Correction: WWI was soley the fault of Austria and Germany pressing Serbia to give up those involved in an assassination . . .



    The disaster that followed could have been averted but there is no question that Germany rounded up Jews and removed from their homes with a clear purpose as has been stated repeatedly here -- "punishing them" as threats to Germany. And has been repeated here numerous times that punishment was for being a threat to Germany. When there is little to no evidence that German Jews were in any committed to destroying Germany, even if some small number of Jews elsewhere were and that I think is suspect --- but punishing German Jews was not going to resolve that matter.

    When there is little to no evidence that German Jews were in any committed to destroying Germany,

    Let me acquaint you with some facts.

    About 100,000 to 200,000 Jewish Bolsheviks fled to Germany from Russia—that is where Hitlers “dislike’ of Jews came from….Bolshevism. He feared they would start up Bolshevism in Germany.

    And they did ..or at least attempted to.

    There were two Jew led communist movements in Germany prior to the Jew clamp down…they included violence and murders. And in one instance their mob broke into the gov house declaring they were now in charge. One Jew leader was executed, the other escaped but was later found dead.

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    From a very mainstream source:

    "There has been a tendency to circumvent or simply ignore the significant role of Jewish intellectuals in the German Communist Party, and thereby seriously neglect one of the genuine and objective reasons for increased anti-Semitism during and after World War 1... The prominence of Jews in the revolution and early Weimar Republic is indisputable, and this was a very serious contributing cause for increased anti-Semitism in post-war years.. It is clear then that the stereotype of Jews as socialists and communists... led many Germans to distrust the Jewish minority as a whole and to brand Jews as enemies of the German nation."
     
    Sarah Gordon, "Hitler, Germans and the ‘Jewish Question’", Princeton University Press (1984) p 23.
    , @Momus
    About 100,000 to 200,000 Jewish Bolsheviks fled to Germany from Russia—that is where Hitlers “dislike’ of Jews came from….Bolshevism. He feared they would start up Bolshevism in Germany."

    Cites for this please.

    , @jilles dykstra
    Jewry declared war on Germany in 1933
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  218. Wally says:
    @Incitatus
    “Mr. Leuchter IS an electrical engineer…”

    Leuchter has a BA in history from BU. Does he also have a professional degree? What qualifies him as an engineer? Working in executions when states had few consulting requirements (other than killing the condemned)? Experience is great, but dead customers can’t rate Fred’s ‘expertise’.

    Seems likely states upgraded RFPs to require professional status. Typical in many disciples over the last fifty years. Fred could have partnered with a licensed engineer (common), but apparently didn’t. He lied. He lied again about the law never being enforced. Why?

    “His “line of work” did not require a license or permission from the state…”

    Then why did he admit “having represented himself as one”?

    Generally licenses are required in any work affecting public safety. Including electrical engineering. From the MA website:

    Engineers practice in many areas, including (but not limited to):
    • chemical
    • civil
    • environmental
    electrical
    • mechanical
    • structural
    • agricultural
    • aeronautical/aerospace
    • fire protection
    • manufacturing
    • industrial
    • nuclear
    • petroleum
    • safety

    https://www.mass.gov/orgs/board-of-registration-of-professional-engineers-and-land-surveyors
     
    People can’t represent themselves as such (as Fred did) unless they have a license and keep it current. Thus the action to which he pleaded guilty.

    “Mr. Leuchter was harassed on the direction of those of the “tribe”.”

    Jewish antipathy is hardly surprising, given Fred’s assertions and associations (e.g. Ernst 'The Hitler We Loved and Why' Zündel). Cats and dogs fighting again. But many are prosecuted for fraudulent unlicensed practice. Three so far this year in Massachusetts. Are they hounded by the “tribe”? Doubt it.

    Anarchyst, you’re welcome to your opinions. Disagree with most, but it doesn’t bother me. Knock yourself out. You’d have stronger spam if you cut out the bit about Fred alone being persecuted by a dormant statute, lack of license requirements and other bogus tearjerkers.

    Maybe Fred’s an expert, maybe not. One thing’s on the record: he’s a liar. Sorry.

    Incitatus, you just do not know what you are talking about.
    You’re in way over your head.
    Here are the facts:

    The Leuchter Report Vindicated
    A Response to J.-C. Pressac’s Critique

    By Paul Grubach

    https://codoh.com/library/document/988/?lang=en

    and:
    Kenneth Stern’s Critique of The Leuchter Report: A Critical Analysis
    By Daniel D. Desjardins

    https://codoh.com/library/document/708/?lang=en

    see tons more:

    https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=leuchter+

    Only liars demand censorship.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

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    Incitatus, you just do not know what you are talking about.
    You’re in way over your head.
    Here are the facts:
    The Leuchter Report Vindicated


    Wally!

    I’ve not addressed ‘The Leuchter Report’, nor the veracity of like opinion. I can’t get beyond Fred’s fraudulent claim to be an engineer. To which he pleaded guilty, no less. Then his assertion he alone was prosecuted for such, another obvious lie. Puts one off.

    My message to anarchyst was to cut Fred’s martyrdom from his spam. Sure, it’s a tearjerker, but it’s phony. A stain on your credibility. Word to the wise. Concentrate on Fred’s assertions, not his qualifications or ‘professional’ history. Just trying to be helpful.

    I didn’t, for example, challenge the ever-popular “jews declared war on Germany in 1933 (yes, 1933)”. A bit disingenuous, don’t you think? Never mentions Hitler’s ‘declaration of war’ on Jews in 1919 (yes, 1919).

    It was his very first address to the DAP in Munich’s Hofbräukeller. The Münchener Beobachter reports he spoke with “rousing words” for the case for “the necessity to rally against the common enemy of nations [Jews]” and urges support for “a German press, so that the nation will learn the things about which the Jewish papers keep quiet”. It was 16 Oct 1919! Fourteen years before 1933.

    You know Dolf. He was just getting started. Still an enlisted soldier working in Karl Mayr’s intelligence department under District Military Commander General Arnold von Möhl. Makes one wonder. Was the army using him to spin the stab-in-the-back excuse for their own incompetence?

    Four months later (24 Feb 1920), Wolf (he loved that nickname) drew two thousand to a widely advertised event at the Hofbräuhaus Festsaal. He proudly announced the brand-new 25 point DAP party platform. Lots of good stuff. Revocation of Versailles, “union of all Germans in a Greater Germany’, breaking of “the slavery of interest”, abolition of incomes unearned by work, targeting of war profiteers and confiscation of their assets, nationalization of trust companies, land reform, banning land speculation, expropriation of land for communal use without compensation, death penalty for usury and profiteering, etc. Oh, almost forgot. German citizenship for ethnic Germans only, no Jew can hold German citizenship (Point 4), and “the Jewish materialist spirit within and without us” is to be combatted (Point 24).

    Not worth attention? There’s more. On 7 Aug 1920 Dolf warns listeners “do not think it is possible to combat a disease without killing the cause, without exterminating the bacillus. And do not think that it is possible to combat racial tuberculosis without taking care that the nation is freed from the cause of its racial tuberculosis…The effect of Jewry shall never pass, and the poisoning of the nation shall not end until the cause, the Jew, has been removed from our midst”. Doctor Dolf. The biological metaphor became a favorite. Antiseptic anyone?

    Six days later (13 Aug 1920) he tells an overflow crowd “we must necessarily…be anti-Semites”. In a Munich Hofbräuhaus speech entitled (surprise) “Why We Are Anti-Semites”. Never shy, Dolf says the NSDAP stands “at the head” of the anti-Semitic movement in Germany and all the other good stuff you’d expect. International Jewish capitalism is destroying Germany and the rest of the world. Jews are selfish, working just for themselves rather than for the common good. Jews are incapable of forming their own state since they rely on parasitically sucking the blood of other people. Jewish “materialism and mammonism” are the anti-thesis of true socialism. Jews bring about a “lowering of the racial level” forcing people “to liberate themselves from the unwanted visitor or themselves to perish”. Not least, he faults newspaper Münchner Neueste Nachrichen for giving Jews a voice it its pages.

    Really have to admire Dolf. Never at a loss for blaming others. November Criminals, Freemasons, Frogs, Brits, Yanks, bankers, newspapers, etc. Anyway, you get the idea. Hitler’s war on Jews began fourteen years before 1933 (yes, 14 years). Go figure!

    Could have mentioned all that to anarchyst. Being helpful on how to sell Leuchter sans nasty bits was more important. Honest.
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  219. Realist says:
    @Art


    How long are people going to continue to buy Trump’s virtue signaling that promotes and justifies confrontation?
     
    Too many Americans are really stupid and shallow.
     
    To many intellectual Americans are coerced by the Jews.

    The Jews do not allow a real genuine peace movement to get started.

    All we need to attain peace, is a 10% movement among the intellectual elite.

    The Jew MSM will ignore and starve any such peace movement.

    The dark Jews will give NO air time to peace.

    Think Peace --- Art

    To many intellectual Americans are coerced by the Jews.

    Americans are not coerced by Jews. Jews are only 2.2% of our population. Many Americans are out smarted by Jews. Jews buy our politicians and Americans allow it.

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    With zero relationship to The ZUS political power quotient, Realist wrote surrealistically: "Jews are only 2.2% of our population."
    , @Mario Partisan

    Americans are not coerced by Jews. Jews are only 2.2% of our population. Many Americans are out smarted by Jews. Jews buy our politicians and Americans allow it.
     
    Unfortunately, you are incorrect when you say that Americans are not coerced by Jews. It is ironic that you would make such a statement under an article that is precisely about how Americans are coerced by Jews. What is criminalizing legitimate criticism of Israel, which is what the South Carolina law seems to do, if not coercion?

    Your four sentence statement seems rather contradictory. You state that “Jews are only 2.2% of our population” as evidence that Jews do not have the demographic numbers to coerce Americans. But then, in the same breadth, you admit that they “buy our politicians.” If they have the ability to buy our politicians, they have the ability to coerce us.

    There are numerous Jewish advocacy organizations in the US, all with budgets in the millions of dollars. Two percent of the US population is roughly 6 million plus individuals. That is not insignificant. And it is important to note that a small minority is capable of achieving quite a lot when it is united in action. It is precisely through these advocacy organizations that our politicians are not just bought, but also coerced, into pushing a pro-Israel agenda. https://russia-insider.com/en/list-us-pro-israel-pressure-groups-extraordinary-israel-lobby-list/ri23384

    I can tell you from personal experience: I am an intellectual who has been “coerced” by Jews. I have been ridiculed, slandered, blackmailed, and threatened with blacklisting for relatively mild criticism of Israel. I used to be involved to a substantial extent in anti-war activism, but today I largely stay silent due to the “coercion” from Jews that I have experienced firsthand. And I am not the only one. Yes, some Americans, such as Christian Zionists, “allow” Jews to control our political system. But most others do no such “allowing.” They know, instinctively, that they will be accused of “anti-semitism,” a potentially career-destroying accusation, if they say anything about it, and so keep silent. This is coercion.
    , @Art


    To many intellectual Americans are coerced by the Jews.
     
    Americans are not coerced by Jews. Jews are only 2.2% of our population. Many Americans are out smarted by Jews. Jews buy our politicians and Americans allow it.
     
    "The people" are always the last to know - the game is not over - we shall see.

    I have little doubt that the Little Jews will be the losers - history says they always are.

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Maintain Hope --- Art
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  220. @EliteCommInc.
    Good grief,


    WWII was soley the fault of Austria and Germany pressing Serbia to give up those involved in an assassination -- which in my view was fine, but Austria demanding to involved in state on that process -- was never going to fly. In otherwords, they made demands they would not be granted or should have known and proceeded to make their case for war.

    During the war German and Austrian Jews fought as willingly and resolutely as other Germans and Austrians against the allied powers. The pretense that the Jews were responsible for Germany's woes is based on a lot of tangential circumstantial evidence and it has been repeated here ad nauseum. The collapse of the economy had nothing to do with Jewish manipulation. The collapse was international, that Germany suffered more as the result of reparation demands is accurate. Most of Germany's bankers were not Jews, nor did Jews have the final say in borrowing money from wall Street banks.

    The Nazis according to previous discussions on this matter actually used the Jews financiers to bankroll their rearmament campaign and other projects. Now that evidence was used as evidence that the Nazis did not persecute the Jews -- in the exact same discussions in which the argument was posited that the Jews deserved what they got ---

    Now I pointed that out the time but did not press it. But you cannot decry the contradictions in reasoning of others and excuse when its on your table made and delivered by the advocates against Judaism.


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    Now as I have made clear, getting side tracked on whether the Nazis and Germans killed 6 million or one million or even less is not consequential for me in discussing US support for Israel. Israel has US support, but that support should not be a blanket countenance of whatever Israel does or says and I will not be held hostage to guilt about the holocaust as an attempt to stop that discussion. Nor will I be held to Mount McKinley/Denali task of dismantling the holocaust in order to make a case that Israel should not be allowed to use US support as cover for violations of ethics or international law.

    Holding Israel to account does not require dismantling the holocaust. Now people of course are more than happy to give it a go. But that debate serves to cloud the matter at hand. And that matter is not the holocaust.

    What are you trying to say? I think Kolo nailed it…

    This is totally off the wall, so I barely even skimmed the rest of your comment.:

    WWII was soley(sic) the fault of Austria and Germany pressing Serbia to give up those involved in an assassination

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  221. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @L.K
    rurik: "now would I allow the Right of Return? absolutely!"

    That would mean the end of the Zionist entity as such, and a huge % of "israelis" would very much desire to immigrate, if the right of return was exercised, as it should be.

    As of now, without the large number of refugees in neighboring countries, there are already more Palestinians than Jews in 'Israel'.

    Rurik: Jews live in Iran and have for centuries in dignity and peace. Jews live in many places just fine, and get along just fine.
     
    Right, sure... so, you would not object to many Jews from Israel moving to the ZUS, then, right? plenty of space there....

    The fact that Jews live in peace in Iran is largely because they do not really hold any real political power there...

    Anyway, 'israel' should really be dissolved, the Jews who desire to remain should be allowed to stay in Palestine and live as equals with the indigenous majority... the ones who don't want that, should get the hell out...

    The problems re organized Jewry will continue to exist, but at least the risk of major war for the benefit of the zio entity would be removed.

    L.K. wrote:. “The fact that Jews live in peace in Iran is largely because they do not really hold any real political power there

    Lot of minorties in a lot of palces including here in USA/Canad do not hold powers

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    Half-in-bag, anon Agent # 228 wrote to L.K.:
    "Lot of minorties in a lot of palces including here in USA/Canad do not hold powers"

    Hi # 228,

    You're hot on the trail above, but no doubt, & in synch with Phil Giraldi's article topic, L.K. gets the larger point about a desperate need to question PreZident Donald Trump's loyalty.

    Thanks.
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  222. @EliteCommInc.
    Correction: WWI was soley the fault of Austria and Germany pressing Serbia to give up those involved in an assassination . . .



    The disaster that followed could have been averted but there is no question that Germany rounded up Jews and removed from their homes with a clear purpose as has been stated repeatedly here -- "punishing them" as threats to Germany. And has been repeated here numerous times that punishment was for being a threat to Germany. When there is little to no evidence that German Jews were in any committed to destroying Germany, even if some small number of Jews elsewhere were and that I think is suspect --- but punishing German Jews was not going to resolve that matter.

    Good grief…

    Correction: WWI was soley(sic) the fault of Austria and Germany pressing Serbia to give up those involved in an assassination . . .

    Your “correction” is as erroneous as the original, and people have long ago debunked that inanely superficial analysis including many who realized the foolishness of it, contemporaneously, even!

    A.J. Nock’s “The Myth of a Guilty Nation” is a classic and so is this.:

    To explain the causes of the war we must find the causes of the alliances of England, France and Russia against Germany.

    For the cause of the war is that alliance—that and nothing else. The defence of the Entente Cordiale is that it is an innocent pact of friendship, designed only to meet the threat of the Triple Alliance. [pg 6]But the answer to that is that whereas the Triple Alliance was formed thirty years ago, it has never declared war on anyone, while the Triple Entente before it is eight years old has involved Europe, America, Africa, and Asia in a world conflict. We must find the motive for England allying herself with France and Russia in an admittedly anti-German “understanding” …When that motive is apparent we shall realise who it was preferred war to peace and how impossible it is to hope for any certain peace ensuing from the victory of those who ensured an appeal to arms.

    -Roger Casement, The Crime Against Europe: A Possible Outcome of the War of 1914, p (1915)
    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14728/14728-h/14728-h.htm

    You may want to consider reading both of those works before you decide to parrot century old and very sappy, war propaganda.

    Here, chew on these.:

    Why, my fellow citizens, is there any man here or any woman, let me say is there any child here, who does not know that the seed of war in the modern world is industrial and commercial rivalry…and the reason why some nations went into the war against Germany was that they thought Germany would get the commercial advantage of them. The seed of the jealousy, the seed of the deep-seated hatred was hot, successful commercial and industrial rivalry…
    This war, in its inception was a commercial and industrial war. It was not a political war.
    -Woodrow Wilson, Address at the Coliseum in St. Louis, Missouri, September 5, 1919

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=117365

    [Lloyd George] said, “ The truth is that we have got our way. We have got most of the things we set out to get. If you had told the British people twelve months ago that they would have secured what they have, they would have laughed you to scorn. The German Navy has been handed over; the German mercantile shipping has been handed over, and the German colonies have been given up. One of our chief trade competitors has been most seriously crippled and our Allies are about to become her biggest creditors. That is no small achievement. In addition, we have destroyed the menace to our Indian possessions.”

    -David Lloyd George, as quoted in LORD RIDDELL’S INTIMATE DIARY OF THE PEACE CONFERENCE AND AFTER , 1918—1923, p 42 (diary entry of 30 March 1919).

    https://archive.org/stream/in.ernet.dli.2015.189747/2015.189747.Lord-Riddells-Intimate-Diary-Of-The-Peace-Conference-And-After_djvu.txt

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    this is old news news. the record is clear on what occurred in WWI which led to WWII.

    Germany was was responsible, all of the sidestepping won't change who the aggressor was. NY sidestepping I mean the litany of reasons Germany felt they were justified for invading several states. Including that Poland attacked them first . . .


    But most damning in this parade is that Germany acknowledges her role as to segregating specific populations ---

    whether you want to call it guilt, self responsibility, accountability -- make no difference to me, it's a very tough case when Germany essentially acknowledges that these incidents occurred. There may be some validity as to the magnitude challenge. I suggest you take it up with Germany.

    Nothing in my comments denies or challenges the international trade competitions. Nations have competed routinely and not gone to war. But suppose I granted that it was trade and not Germany's desire to take out Russia and as strategic manuver to that end invade France in a first strike to prevent an effective alliance with Russia to block German ambitions.

    Bottom m line, Neutral Belgium denied Germany;s use of their territory for war and Germany violated that abstention --- Germany;s resolve in using force to settle trading competitions, or siding with Austria on the Serbian issue or just seeking an opportunity to do in Russia -- that's the cause for aggression. The contention that every trade dispute is cause for war -- nonsense.


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    Your canard to use a victory speech as evidence for a war begun by Germany is bizarre. Of course they got their way -- Germany and Austria lost the war. In we won and now we can rule the seas minus Germany -- Maybe Germany should have considered that when they had the upper hand in shipping. I am not contending that the Allied powers were not abusive and their abuse contributed to WWII.

    The fact, is that hostilities commenced with Germany's actions, and German Jews were as eager as any to advance Germany's ambitions and demonstrated it on the battlefield.
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  223. @anon
    L.K. wrote:. “The fact that Jews live in peace in Iran is largely because they do not really hold any real political power there


    Lot of minorties in a lot of palces including here in USA/Canad do not hold powers

    Half-in-bag, anon Agent # 228 wrote to L.K.:
    “Lot of minorties in a lot of palces including here in USA/Canad do not hold powers”

    Hi # 228,

    You’re hot on the trail above, but no doubt, & in synch with Phil Giraldi’s article topic, L.K. gets the larger point about a desperate need to question PreZident Donald Trump’s loyalty.

    Thanks.

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