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Most Americans have no idea of just how powerful Israeli and Jewish interests are. Two recent stories out of Kansas and Texas illustrate exactly how supporters of Israel in the United States are ready, willing and able to subvert the existing constitutional and legal protections that uphold the right to fair and impartial treatment for all American citizens.

The friends of Israel appear to believe that anyone who is unwilling to do business with Israel or even with the territories that it has illegally occupied should not be allowed to do business in any capacity with federal, state or even local governments. Constitutional guarantees of freedom of association for every American are apparently not valid if one particular highly favored foreign country is involved.

Maryland became the most recent state to jump on the Israel bandwagon last week. Currently twenty-two state legislatures have passed various laws confronting boycotts of Israel because of its human rights abuses, in many cases initiating economic penalties on those organizations and individuals or denying state funds to colleges and universities that allow boycott advocates to operate freely on campus.

When governor of South Carolina, current United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley, an ardent supporter of Israel, signed the first state law attacking those who support boycotting or sanctioning the Israeli government, the country’s state institutions and its businesses. Haley, who is supposed to be defending American interests, has also stated her priority focus will be opposing “the UN’s…bias against our close ally Israel.”

Both the recent cases in Kansas and Texas involve state mandates regarding Israel. Both states are, one might note, part of the Bible belt. The anti-boycott legislation was sponsored by powerful Christian Zionist constituencies and passed through the respective legislatures with little debate. In Kansas, Esther Koontz, a Mennonite curriculum coach was fired by the State Department of Education as a teacher trainer because she would not certify in writing that she does not boycott Israel. Koontz’s church had passed a resolution in July seeking peace in the Middle East which specifically opposed purchasing products associated with Israel’s “military occupation” of Palestine. With the assistance of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), Koontz is contesting the Kansas government position.

In Dickinson, Texas, in a case which actually made national news, if only briefly, the city is requiring anyone who applies for disaster relief to sign a document that reads “Verification not to Boycott Israel: By executing this Agreement below, the Applicant verifies that the Applicant: (1) does not boycott Israel; and (2) will not boycott Israel during the term of this Agreement.” Dickinson was half destroyed by hurricane Harvey last month and urgently needs assistance, but, in the opinion of Texas lawmakers and local officials, deference to Israel comes first. The ACLU is also contesting the Texas legislation.

The Texas law was signed earlier this year and took effect on September 1st. In January 2016, Governor Greg Abbott met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who urged Texas to push through the legislation. Abbott responded, and, when signing the bill, commented that “any anti-Israel policy is an ‘anti-Texas policy.’” Abbot is reportedly also considering Israeli endorsed legislation that would ban all business dealings on the part of Texas companies with Iran.

One particular pending piece of federal legislation that is also currently making its way through the Senate would far exceed what is happening at the state level and would set a new standard for deference to Israeli interests on the part of the national government. It would criminalize any U.S. citizen “engaged in interstate or foreign commerce” who supports a boycott of Israel or who even goes about “requesting the furnishing of information” regarding it, with penalties enforced through amendments of two existing laws, the Export Administration Act of 1979 and the Export-Import Act of 1945, that include potential fines of between $250,000 and $1 million and up to 20 years in prison

According to the Jewish Telegraph Agency, the Senate bill was drafted with the assistance of AIPAC. The legislation, which would almost certainly be overturned as unconstitutional if it ever does in fact become law, is particularly dangerous and goes well beyond any previous pro-Israeli legislation as it essentially denies free of expression when the subject is Israel.

The movement that is being particularly targeted by the bills at both the state level and also within the federal government is referred to by its acronym as BDS, which is an acronym for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions. It is a non-violent reaction to the Israeli military occupation of Palestinian land on the West Bank and the continued building of Jewish-only settlements. BDS has been targeted both by the Israeli government and by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). The AIPAC website under its lobbying agenda includes the promotion of the Israel Anti-Boycott Act as a top priority.

The Israeli government and its American supporters particularly fear BDS because it has become quite popular, particularly on university campuses, where administrative steps have frequently been taken to suppress it. The denial of free speech on campus when it relates to Israel has sometimes been referred to as the “Palestinian exception.” Nevertheless, the message continues to resonate, due both to its non- violence its and human rights appeal. It challenges Israel’s arbitrary military rule over three million Palestinians on the West Bank who have onerous restrictions placed on nearly every aspect of their daily lives. And its underlying message is that Israel is a rogue state engaging in actions that are widely considered to be both illegal and immoral, which the Israeli government rightly sees as potentially delegitimizing.

It is disheartening to realize that a clear majority of state legislators and congressmen thinks it is perfectly acceptable to deny all Americans the right to free political expression in order to defend an internationally acknowledged illegal occupation being carried out by a foreign country. Those co-sponsoring the bills include Democrats, Republicans, progressives and conservatives. Deference to Israeli interests is bi-partisan and crosses ideological lines. Glenn Greenwald and Ryan Grim, writing at The Intercept, observe that “…the very mention of the word ‘Israel’ causes most members of both parties to quickly snap into line in a show of unanimity that would make the regime of North Korea blush with envy.”

Would that the anti BDS activity were the only examples of pro-Israeli legislation, but there is, unfortunately more. Another bill that might actually have been written by AIPAC is called Senate 722, Countering Iran’s Destabilizing Activities Act of 2017. The bill mandates that “Not later than 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and every 2 years thereafter, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of the Treasury, and the Director of National Intelligence shall jointly develop and submit to the appropriate congressional committees a strategy for deterring conventional and asymmetric Iranian activities and threats that directly threaten the United States and key allies in the Middle East, North Africa, and beyond.”

Senate bill 722 combined with recent de-certification of Iran by the White House is a formula for war and a gift to Israel. And there’s more. A bill has surfaced in the House of Representatives that will require the United States to “consult” with Israel regarding any prospective arms sales to Arab countries in the Middle East. In other words, Israel will have a say, backed up undoubtedly by Congress and the media, over what the United States does in terms of its weapons sales abroad. The sponsors of the bill, want “closer scrutiny of future military arms sales” to maintain the “qualitative military edge” that Israel currently enjoys.

And there’s still more. The most recent trade bill with Europe, signed by President Barack Obama, includes language requiring the European blocking of “politically motivated” efforts to boycott Israel as a factor in bilateral trade agreements, so U.S. business interests will become subordinated to how foreign governments regard Israel. How does all this play out in practice? A Jewish group in New Jersey is seeking to blacklist with the state pension investment fund a Danish bank that has refused to provide loans to two Israeli defense contractors. The bank has argued that it has turned down loans to many companies in many countries for sound business reasons, but that common sense argument apparently is unacceptable to the NJ State Association of Jewish Federations.

And there’s bill HR 672 Combating European Anti-Semitism Act of 2017, which was passed unanimously by the House of Representatives on June 14th. Yes, “unanimously.” The bill requires the State Department to monitor what European nations and their police forces are doing about anti-Semitism and encourages them to adopt “a uniform definition of anti-Semitism.” That means that criticism of Israel must be considered anti-Semitism and will therefore be a hate crime and prosecutable, a status that is already de facto true in Britain and France. If the Europeans don’t play ball, there is the possibility of still more repercussions in trade negotiations. The bill was co-sponsored by Ileana Ros-Lehtinen from Florida and Nita Lowey of New York, both of whom are Jewish.

There is also a Senate companion bill on offer in the Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism Act of 2017. The bill will make the Anti-Semitism Envoy a full American Ambassador and will empower him or her with a full staff and a budget permitting meddling worldwide. There is also a Special Advisor for Holocaust Issues. There are no comparable positions at the State Department specifically monitoring anti-Christian or Muslim activity or for dealing with historic events like the Armenian genocide.

Anyone who thinks that the government in the United States at all levels does not consistently and almost obsessively defer to Israeli and Jewish interests has been asleep. The requirement to sign a document relating to one views of any foreign government to obtain a job or disaster relief is an abomination. Protecting Israel and going on a worldwide search for anti-Semitism or Holocaust deniers are not the responsibility of the American government and they are not what state legislators and congressmen are supposed to be doing to serve the public interest.

Israel is sometimes referred to as the “51st State,” but that is hardly true as it contributes nothing to the United States, collects billions of dollars a year from the U.S. Treasury and is totally unaccountable in terms of the actual damage it does to American interests. The American people are being hoodwinked by their own elected leaders and laws are being passed to make it impossible for them to even complain. Well, enough is enough. It is past time to shut the door on the Israeli influence machine and take back what remains of truly responsive and representational government.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is www.councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected]

 
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  1. Zionist lobby and its myriad tentacles: insidious, rapacious, duplicitous, unscrupulous.

    • Agree: Druid
  2. nsa says:

    Hey Phil,
    If you lived in Canada, this article would get you prosecuted…..made an example of. And Trudeau the Second would go on ZioVision and burst into tears over all the undeserved horrors inflicted on the kindly jooies over the centuries. Here we have a First Amendment (for now) so you will just be ostracized, banned from print except on obscure websites, and forgotten. Down the ole memory hole with you, Phil.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Old Jew
  3. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    There are U.S. government agencies, and federal employees from those agencies, based at various defense contractors in the U.S. Specifically, the Defense Contract Management Agency and the Defense Contract Audit Agency. I wonder how many Americans are aware that federal employees from these same agencies are also based in Israel?

  4. It’s amazing to me how people like the ones on this site who are so in the know about the dangers of Islam and mass-Muslim migration get so angry at the thought of the US supporting the only friend it has in the region, Israel.

    You subsequently take the side of Muslim terrorists who if they got their way would slaughter every Jew and turn Israel into another third world Muslim hellhole where barbarity is commonplace. Instead, you vilify a leader in technological and agricultural innovation, Israel.

    True, many Jews are leftist, but these are mainly secular Jews. If you read the Old Testament, you’d find out that Judaism is most certainly conservative.

    Can someone please explain to me (with limited snark, if possible) why you side with Hamas and Hezbollah over Israel?

  5. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Pandering to Israel Has Got to Stop”

    Sure thing, Mr Giraldi. All you need to do is to turn US society upside down. Get right on that, will ya?

    Israel is sometimes referred to as the “51st State,” but that is hardly true as it contributes nothing to the United States, collects billions of dollars a year from the U.S. Treasury and is totally unaccountable in terms of the actual damage it does to American interests.

    Or, put it the way they put it in Israel itself: “Why would we ever want to be the 51st State? Why settle for two senators when we already have 100?”

    • Agree: Carroll Price
    • LOL: Seamus Padraig
  6. denk says:

    testing……

    Is this site under attack ??

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  7. @whyamihere

    You apparently responded to the wrong column.

  8. wayfarer says:

    Wars for Israel Drive Mass Immigration into Europe

    Israel Directly Helping Muslims And Africans Invade Europe

    Israel’s New Racism: The Persecution of African Migrants in the Holy Land

    Israel, Sending Away African Migrants

  9. Yes, pandering to Israel has to stop – but how will it? It won’t stop until we chop off all the heads of the Hydra. There is a good reason why all these pols are pandering to Israel, and with the exception of the ones who are jewish, I suspect the rest are doing it for three reasons:

    1. Blackmail
    2. Bribes
    3. Threats

    The blackmail part is easy. As the Harvey Weinstein case is uncovering scads of others in Hollywood, Washington D.C. is also rife with sexual deviants. With AMDOCS processing all US phone billing, the Mossad undoubtedly has fat dossiers on every single one of these corrupt politicians. Moreover, every politician that has taken an AIPAC-paid trip to Israel has undoubtedly had compromising pictures taken with honeypots (and the male equivalent for female politicians). You will recall that Epstein had video cameras in all the bedrooms on his island mansion to record his guests in the company of underaged prostitutes. You can bet that he has extensive footage on Bill Clinton, among others, which is why he got away with a very brief stay in white-collar “prison”.

    Bribes are easy too, and funded by the US taxpayers. Congress allocates huge amounts of direct and indirect “aid” to Israel, a part of which is returned from Israel to fund the Israel Lobby, which in turn contributes the the campaigns of their favorite politicians – who then allocate more funds for Israel. This is a diabolically perfect system.

    Threats. For the occasional incorruptible politician, like Cynthia McKinney and others, the money goes to bribe their opponents, and since elections are won based on how much money is spent (with some exceptions), it doesn’t take long to boot the incorruptible politician out of office, to be replaced by more devil spawn.

    We have to take them all down. But how?

    • Replies: @renfro
  10. utu says:

    The alt-right is zionist operation.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/17/breitbart-news-network-born-in-the-usa-conceived-in-israel/ (see picture with Netanyahu)
    A lot of people don’t realize this but Breitbart News Network really got its start in Jerusalem. It was the summer of 2007, and Andrew had been invited to tour Israel as part of a media junket. I agreed to tag along as his lawyer and best friend. What neither of us knew at the time was that the trip would change our lives and give us the inspiration for Breitbart News Network.

    One thing we specifically discussed that night was our desire to start a site that would be unapologetically pro-freedom and pro-Israel. We were sick of the anti- Israel bias of the mainstream media and J-Street. By launching Breitbart Jerusalem, the journey comes full circle and a promise between two friends is fulfilled. And in a very real sense, Breitbart News Network returns to its roots.

    The ethnic nationalism will be tolerated only as long as it is and remains decisively zionist.

  11. Empire inevitably breeds corruption among ruled and rulers alike. The truth of the matter is, it’s no longer easy to discern what being loyal to the United States means anymore, with so much of government acting against the peoples’ interests, and huge swathes of the population hating one another. Commonality has been lost and there is no longer an American consensus, except among an elite oligarchy and its Deep State, which have supplanted democratic accountability.

    • Agree: Hu Mi Yu
  12. joe webb says:

    True Believers and their enforcers of Judaiziation of the US are Crusaders, just like the Arabs say.

    That does not make the Arabs good folks, cuz they are Allah’s willing executioners and even worse than the jews in that regard. However, Muslims have no power and jews got Jehovah instilling fear in Congress, etc. and more importantly, far more importantly, the Amen Corner and the Vatican Too these days, luv the jews more than anything else in the world of politics. and arguably in religion as well. Deny God all you want. Ho hum. Deny the Jews….prepare to die…sorta like Allah.

    None of this is going to change.

    However, with the first Amendment, something that only the US has as a legal/constitutional basic law, the jewish lobby and its Christian and secular crusaders, will have a tough job convincing any legal authority that these proposed and placed laws are constitutional.

    Thus, the comedy will be played out for all the world to see. The Jews and their Christian dupes will be forced to defend a preposterous claim concerning Israel, which they would never dream of claiming with regard to protecting a Christian church from, say Pussy Riot in Russia transgressing a Russian Orthodox Church, or nauseating atheists thumping some new book on it all.

    The jews would also be somewhat ho-humish if pussy riot did the like in Jerusalem, that is the secular jews. The haredi might get their dander up but the rest of zio types could care less,
    or even enjoy it.

    In my secular-mindedness, I would not have objected if ordinary Russians murdered pussy riot. Ditto if done in a synagogue, or a church in the US or Europe.

    What The Sacred means these days, it is what brings up homicidal bloody thoughts when someone transgresses whatever the Holy Scrit happens to be.

    God is no longer Sacred to most folks of a religious bent, but the Jews are. This is where we are at.
    Nobody cared until the 6 day war, even the religious types…but then the Holocaust and other Shoah biz got the propaganda mills running. Ann Frank, Ann Frank, Ann Frank…Sammy glick, Sammy Glick, Sammy Glick.

    yet things do change. The Darkies, the Inmates running the prison/asylum/Sanctuaries of liberal America and the Jews…now down on their luck. Time may be running out for our parasites.

    Joe Webb

  13. MEexpert says:
    @whyamihere

    Can someone please explain to me (with limited snark, if possible) why you side with Hamas and Hezbollah over Israel?

    Because they stand up to the Israeli aggression. Also, because Hezbollah beat the pants off of Israel in 2006. Israel is the real terrorist country.

  14. Alfred says:

    Israel is overplaying its hand. Hubris always comes before the downfall.

    All their plans in the Middle East have failed. They have not won a single war since 1967. In 1973, they were saved by US pilots, intelligence and supplies. Ever since they have failed – most recently in Syria.

  15. Erebus says:
    @whyamihere

    It’s amazing to me how people… get so angry at the thought of the US supporting the only friend it has in the region, Israel.

    To which John Sheehan, S.J. provides the perfect retort:
    “Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”

  16. Clyde says:

    Good for Israel. They resist and fight Islam. They are the front line against the eternal jihad of Islam. You want a comparison, just look at ultra cuckified Western Europe as they cave into the Muslim migration jihad and demographic jihad of making Muslim babies to swamp Sweden Germany France and Europe.

    • Troll: L.K
  17. The real problem is the Christian Zionists in the US. They are a genuine asset to Israel: perhaps even more than Jewish Americans.
    I would expect genuine concern (by all politicians) in a state like NY over the Israel Lobby and their demands.
    But in a place like Texas, it’s about Christians who have been courted for a generation by the Israelis.

  18. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @whyamihere

    Hey, hasbara lowlife… you think nobody knows about the barbarity of the vile jooie terrorist state.

    slaughter every Jew

    Frankly, I am no murderous satanist, you know, like your fuhrer Nutanyahoo, but going by the mischief your kind has played through the ages, that does not sound like a bad idea.

  19. Che Guava says:
    @denk

    It seems to be having some convulsions. I distinctly recall replying, with a few random things and inoccuous things, in a brief comment, to an over-the-top article about how great China of now is.

    It (the article) is seeming to not exist now.

    I lost one comment when, it does appear, the site was being attacked. Not much regretting it, was too drunk at the time, although would not have worried if it was up. The sincere thoughts.

    Another from last night, a snarky but not offensive reply to a moron poster, who was totally deserving of it. Disappeared.

    In any case, I am seeing the USA political class grovel to Israel, read Meersheimer and Walt, am in total agreement with Mr. Giraldi.

    Start by stopping the massive subsidies,

    making groups that should, register as foreign agents (am gathering there is a law on it),

    do not allowing dual nationals in sensitive positions (am gathering the USA is having a law against that, too).

    • Replies: @denk
    , @Durruti
  20. If all this materializes what Giraldi described, the US and their European annexes are on their way into the Middle Ages. Impunity enshrines the rogue state of Israel, and the “new anti-Semitism” will be treated as a dogma or a new religion. That the US Congress enacts any law the Zionist lobby writes is no surprise. These congressional stooges would even label the Ten Commandments “anti-Semitic” by 99 percent if the Zionist lobby would request it. It seems that the US behaves like an Israeli colony. In the future, the US government has even to consult with a rogue government with whom they want to do business. In Germany, a book by a Jewish author and publisher just came out: “The Anti-Semite Doers” (Die Antisemitenmacher), in which the author demonstrates how the Zionist lobby in Germany, and I assume that it is just hundred times worth in the US, are fabricating anti-Semites. All the so-called anti-Semitic scandals during the last ten years in Germany were made-up by the Zionist Israel lobby. So far, Israel has done tremendous harm to the US. It seems that large parts of the American political class practice their unconditional support as an act of servility to survive politically.

    • Replies: @Anon
  21. David says:
    2058782

    This comment is not by the attilathehen that is obsessed with Derbyshire’s wife.

  22. denk says:
    @Che Guava

    Thanks for the head up !

    At first I couldnt access the site ,
    When it came back I keep seeing the earlier versions,
    as if Im browsing the archive !

    Re the Jeff Brown article,
    Now you see it, now you dont !

    Some of my comments are gone.
    Somebody dont like this site eh ?
    hhhhhh

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  23. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    By writing another splendid column detailing the Israeli Occupation of the USA, Mr. Giraldi is again in a Star of David gun sight.

    It is disheartening to realize that a clear majority of state legislators and congressmen thinks it is perfectly acceptable to deny all Americans the right to free political expression in order to defend an internationally acknowledged illegal occupation being carried out by a foreign country

    I believe Upton Sinclair said something to the effect that it is difficult to get someone to understand something when his income depends on his not understanding.

    Another example of the Judaic takeover of the USA is Christmas time at the WH. At one time, a Nativity Scene was displayed on the WH lawn, but a certain group of religious thugs got very upset at this display and won a court case making it VERBOTEN to display that scene.

    http://www.abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/Christian-Christmas-Symbols-Outlawed-Jewish-Menorahs-Erected-The-Jewish-Takeover-of-America.shtml

    Now we have the Jewish Menorah brazenly displayed in front of the WH, but our Overlords tell us that is NOT a religious display, even though it has to be set up just right, with height according to Jewish law, sanctified by several Rabbis and is the oldest symbol of Judaism.

    But don’t worry Americans, just keep repeating to yourself, “We are still free,” because only a vile anti-Semite would wonder why a Jewish Menorah and not a Christian Nativity Scene decorate the WH lawn during Christmas time–Can I still use the word ‘Christmas’ without getting in trouble?

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @AB_Anonymous
  24. @whyamihere

    I side with President Eisenhower’s diplomacy-first foreign policy, which balanced domestic and military spending.

    In practice, this meant neutrality to Israel, reduced boots on the ground in the Middle East, a huge missile gap over the Soviet Union, controlled and relatively beneficial immigration, and expanded physical and cultural infrastructure during the 50s.

    @whyamihere, as for your fear that Muslim terrorists would “turn Israel into another third world Muslim hellhole where barbarity is commonplace,” you’re a little late. Likud beat them to it.

  25. JackOH says:

    I think Ohio’s General Assembly has a similar bill in the works, but don’t know much about its chances for success. How in the devil did we get to this point? The antonym of Israel First is anti-Semitism. The antonyms of affirmative action are racism and sexism. Jeez!

  26. Jake says:

    This Israeli/Jewish power can be true only because the Elites who control this nation want it that way ad because the underlying basic culture, including religious culture, of the nation’s core and original common masses, is pro-Jewish.

    Anglo-Saxon Puritanism was a Judaizing heresy. WASP culture was finally formed, crystalized, hardened, by the Puritan Revolution and reign. Judaizing heresy produces pro-Jewish culture and politics. Archetypal WASP hero Oliver Cromwell despised as inferior and fit only to be broken unto death or as virtual serfs the vast majority of native British Isles Christians. But Cromwell allied with Jews and gave then special rights and privileges.

    Isn’t that what Israel today?

    The British Empire spread that pro-Jewish political and religious culture around the globe. The US picked up the mantle for the world starting with WW1.

    WASP culture is and always been pro-Jewish, with at least WASP Elites knowing that being pro-Jewish is to be opposed to the best interests of the vast majority of white Christians they rule.

  27. Jake says:
    @Greg Bacon

    Jews did not start the War on Christmas on these shores. Anglo-Saxon Puritans did. The original and pure WASPs began the War on Christmas. Their leaders, civic and clerical, always made their arguments for doing so their understanding of how Jews interpreted various Old Testament passages.

    WASPs think and then act like Jews.

    Jews are far from stupid, and Jews worldwide love the English language made into the world’s post-Christian lingua franca. Why? That language and its attendant culture is the very best expression of Gentile pro-Jewishness.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @renfro
    , @Anon
    , @renfro
  28. @Mark Green

    Zionist lobby and its myriad tentacles: insidious, rapacious, duplicitous, unscrupulous.

    Most probably extortionist and no doubt murderous as well.

    • Agree: Che Guava
    • Replies: @Che Guava
  29. @whyamihere

    You subsequently take the side of Muslim terrorists who if they got their way would slaughter every Jew and turn Israel into another third world Muslim hellhole where barbarity is commonplace.

    Proof, please.

    On the other hand, how does one justify this sort of attitude?

    “”Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”
    Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat.”According to Yosef, death has “no dominion” over non-Jews in Israel.

    “Hate the Gentile!” Israel’s Racist Rabbis, by JONATHAN COOK

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/12/10/israel-s-racist-rabbis/

  30. Che Guava says:
    @denk

    Thanks, Denk,

    As soon as seeing ‘Jeff Brown’, it reminds me of that article! Wonder why that was vanishing. Not that it was not a little insane on some points.

    I thought I may have been imagining it, thx for confirming!

    This site did have the ‘Reply’ button off, the others greyed out for some time. There was something about ‘software update’. Maybe a DDOS or similar, and securing against that.

    BTW, always trying to be accurate, I was only losing two, not three posts, one immediately before the temp. read-only time, other to the China article.

    Reply to moron commentor seems to still being there, less impolite than I was feeling at the time.

    Cheers!

    • Replies: @denk
  31. @Erebus

    To which John Sheehan, S.J. provides the perfect retort:
    “Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”

    Before that the US even had allies there, but it betrayed them, as it often does .

    The STAR, WASHINGTON DC, 30,000,000 Arabs Liberty Dreams Fade in U. S. -British Agreement Recognition Here of Britain’s Mandate in Palestine Ends Last Hope of freedom—Arab Leader Calls Western Diplomacy Fickle .
    Junius B. Wood

    CAIRO, Egypt, May 27,[1922]—The last hope of 30,000,000 Arabs to win freedom for their race without further bloodshed vanished when cables from Washington announced that the United States had concluded an agreement with Great Britain… The Arabs came into the war on the side of the allies against their Turkish co-religionists in- response to the allies’ promise of freedom…The Arab support “was determined and effective.”

    Newspaper article by Junius B. Wood on the American recognition of Britain’s mandate in Palestine, Chicago Daily News,27 May 1922 (also The Sunday Star, Washington)

    http://dcollections.oberlin.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/kingcrane/id/1686/rec/18

  32. Che Guava says:
    @jacques sheete

    Well, they have ‘taken out’ enough Iranian scientists over the years, many others.

    Now, what is the MOSSAD motto?

    I am finding the Harvey Weinstein affair and its fallout very amusing.

    Loved Scream, also the second, McGowan’s acting in the first is brilliant.

    Now, it is spilling out into a breach of the homosexual rule of omerta. This Rapp, homosexual, denounces Spacey for jumping on him as a 14-yo boy.

    Doubt that there will be any similar breaches of that omerta from women, even though it is happening there, too.

    Eve Einsler, Lena Dunham, just as two examples, both boasting of it, but no reaction.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  33. Dr. X says:
    @whyamihere

    Can someone please explain to me (with limited snark, if possible) why you side with Hamas and Hezbollah over Israel?

    I don’t side with Hamas or Hezbollah over Israel. I think a lot of Muslims are nutjobs and lunatics. However, I as an American am under no obligation to pick one side or the other. America should be neutral with regard to Muslim nutjobs, as well as Jewish nutjobs who think that Yahweh made them the “Chosen People” and will give them the “Promised Land.”

    Not. My. Problem.

    As John Quincy Adams said, America “goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy” and America “is the champion and vindicator only of her own.”

    Screw Hamas and Hezbollah, and screw Israel, too.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @renfro
  34. Che Guava says:
    @utu

    Not being a USA person, I am not to know about ‘alt-right’.

    As a reader, it is very obvious that the central point of Breitbart is Zionism.

    Utu, I do not know if you are correct to take it as what it poses to be (voice of alt-right), or as impostor and co-opter.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  35. @Mark James

    The Christian Zionists are a problem, no doubt, but they’re not the real problem. They’re ultimately just foot soldiers and useful idiots.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  36. Someone on Gab commented that in order to get hurricane relief funding in Texas, one has to make a pledge not to boycott Israel. I thought this was probably a ridiculous exaggeration from an overly enthusiastic White nationalist, but no, it’s true.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41688999

    In this case, it’s probably Christian Zionist types to blame. Are most Americans not aware of this level of treachery from these Christ cucks?

    For all its faults, I’d take Islam any day over these fools. At least Muslims have pride.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  37. “…turn Israel into another third world…hellhole”

    But in an effort to weaken the US’ white, Christian majority isn’t that exactly what Israel’s friends here have done to the USA?

  38. The fact is that dual citizens of Israel and the U.S. control every facet of the U.S. government and this should be made illegal, as it says in the Bible, no man can serve two masters, and the dual citizens serve Israel and not America.

    Also the two things that give zionists their power in the U.S. are the FED and the IRS which are privately owned by the zionists and should be abolished and then the wars for Israel would have to end for the fiat money that they use to fund the wars would be cut off.

    Also AIPAC should have to register as a foreign lobby and this would bring people to the realization of the power the zionist lobby has over congress which at this point is actually the lower house of the knesset.

    Finally the America people need to know that it was Israel and the deep state that did 911, and if this fact doe not wake the American people up, then GOD help us.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    , @Rurik
  39. Joe Hide says:

    As smart and increasingly technologically saavy as the Jews are, in time the majority of them will realize they’ve been had by the psychopaths in their group. We’ve all been had by the murderous, narcissistic, self involved pyschopaths in our groups. The internet and evolving expansion of human consciousness will make easily identifiable methods for recognizing these inhumans who who have paradoxically drained the rest of us. For instance, cell phone and similiar device applications to do retinal scans, heart rate changes, brain wave monitoring, etc. It’s going to be a revealing time!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  40. geokat62 says:

    Fantastic article, Phil.

    Keep ‘em coming.

    No need for provocative titles… just keep shining a spotlight on their dastardly deeds and you will have accomplished much.

    Oh, btw, you’ll need to update the statistic you referenced in this passage:

    Maryland became the most recent state to jump on the Israel bandwagon last week. Currently twenty-two state legislatures have passed various laws confronting boycotts of Israel

    According to this recent The Israel Project (TIP) communication, there are now 24 states that have adopted Israel Anti-Boycott laws, with Wisconsin being the latest:

    Wisconsin Becomes 24th State to Adopt Israel Anti- Boycott Law

    Governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin signed an executive order on Friday that prohibits all state agencies from entering into contracts or conducting official state business with companies engaged in a boycott of the State of Israel, Benjamin Weinthal reported in The Jerusalem Post.

    “We stand firmly against discrimination in any form and we wholly support our friends in Israel,” said Walker, adding “I look forward to leading a trade delegation to Israel to foster new trade partnerships between Wisconsin and Israeli businesses.”

    The decision by the governor to sign the executive order makes Wisconsin the 24th state to have either anti-BDS legislation, or an executive order.

    The Israel Project’s CEO and President Josh Block said, “The Israel Project is grateful to Governor Walker for his leadership in fighting against BDS discrimination. For years, Israel – and only Israel – has been targeted by this deceptive attempt to delegitimize its very right to exist. BDS proponents do not seek a better life for the Palestinians, nor do they aim to create a political environment favorable to a lasting peace between Israel and its neighbors. Their true aim is the destruction of the Jewish state.”

    Block added, “From the North to South, in blue and red states – and with strong bipartisan support – lawmakers in 24 states have now declared BDS a form of discrimination.”

    The governor’s executive order comes ahead of his departure for Israel with a 15-member trade delegation this week.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  41. wayfarer says:

    How the Israel Anti-Boycott Act Threatens U.S. Constitutional Rights
    source: https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/how-israel-anti-boycott-act-threatens-first-amendment-rights

    AIPAC Owned U.S. Politicians Kiss the Ass of the Spoiled Trust-Fund Child, Israel.
    source: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/10/wisconsin-governor-signs-anti-boycott-israel-order-171025202319581.html

  42. geokat62 says:
    @whyamihere

    Can someone please explain to me (with limited snark, if possible) why you side with Hamas and Hezbollah over Israel?

    Since most Jews are progressive, they know in their heart of hearts that if this abomination were taking place in any other part of the world, they would be the ones on the front lines vigorously opposing it. That is why people refer to them as Progressive Except for Palestine (PEP).

    It is high time people point out the hypocrisy of their making this exception, no?

    • Replies: @Greg Bacon
  43. The references to Europe knock another classic American anti-EU propaganda line on the head. Instead of being painted as the willing stooges of the US, the EU Member States are presented here as victims of American bullying. That won’t be news in Europe and maybe the wish is father to the thought on my part, but my Irish political nose detects a slow and very subtle change in the American internet’s attitude to the EU. Watch this space!

  44. LondonBob says:
    @Mark James

    Name a policy area in which Christians have scored a policy success, they don’t help but they aren’t decisive? Plenty of Christians are highly critical of Israel and they are given little coverage or promotion.

    Still would amuse me had Billy Graham come out and expressed publicly the opinions he had expressed privately to Nixon.

  45. It’s a toss up which goes first, Israel or the USA. We should have clarity by mid-century.

  46. LondonBob says:
    @DESERT FOX

    The JFK and RFK memorial campaign to have AIPAC register under FARA?

  47. @Erebus

    “But, but, but muh Barbary pirates!!!” – the anguished cry of every Neocon in the US when someone points out that we didn’t have problems in the Middle East until we started carrying the water for Israel.

  48. Z-man says:

    The power of the Cabal is immense!
    There have been some cracks lately, Weinstein, the flagrant unconstitutional anti BDS crowd etc., but they will quickly regroup, the snakes that they are. Follow the money. The campaign finance laws have to be changed to get snakes like Singer and Adelson out of influence peddling.
    On a personal note Phil Giraldi should try to get some young blood (American anti Zionists) on his team to help fight the cabal. I’d like to join and help but I’m already past 60 and what’s needed is ‘thirty somethings’ ready to defend American/Christian values and attack the Cabal. Unfortunately it takes a lot of money and a strong disposition to take on those serpents. And like I said before, the younger you are the less you are to risk your livelihood.
    But Phil, I’m almost ready to join you. One more year of paying bills and I can join you in this battle against evil. (Grin)

    PS. I have to give a mention to Tucker Carlson who while still being a ‘mainstream’ journalist has pushed back against the PC-Group Think crowd of the Beltway. Maybe as he gets older and more financially secure he will be able to be more honest about the real power that runs things.

    PSII. I am a Trump-ster but a big flaw in Donald is that he has a surprisingly influential son in law, married to his ‘trophy daughter’ who is of ‘The Tribe.’ A weird, creepy looking one at that!

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  49. Corvinus says:
    @Mark Green

    “Zionist lobby and its myriad tentacles: insidious, rapacious, duplicitous, unscrupulous.”

    Zionist lobby as viewed by most Americans –> Overstated, overrated, underwhelming.

    Boo! It’s a Joo! Happy Helloween.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @jacques sheete
    , @Anon
  50. Well when we were white sort of christian and America first we didn’t have this problem.
    Just because I don’t think our government should pander to foreign nations Mexico and Israel included shouldn’t mean I support the Palestinians, because I don’t, any more than I would support the commie ANC in Africa that was bank rolled by the old Soviet Union, or the Syrian “rebels”, Saddam, the Mulahs in Iran or any of the rest of them. Why are Christians, white people choosing sides between two factions that want our demise anyway? Muslims are no better and just as hateful as any, I suppose thats why they all vote democrat, right along with the majority of Catholics.
    Foreign is foreign but that’s all spilled milk and water under the bridge now isn’t it? The Muslims loyalty to Mecca or other Muslims are no different than the Jews to Israel or the Catholics to the Pope in Europe and none will go live there. Global empire with religion isn’t much different than with the state.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @renfro
    , @RadicalCenter
  51. Avery says:
    @whyamihere

    {… the US supporting the only friend it has in the region, Israel.}

    Friend?

    * Attacked USS Liberty and killed 30+ and wounded 170+ Americans.
    * Recruited a Jewish-American to spy for Israel: Pollard, according to testimony at his trial,
    was one _the_ most diabolically effective anti-American spies who caused massive damage to US.
    * Sells military technology either stolen or legitimately obtained from US (joint projects) to US’s
    adversaries and potential enemies (e.g. China).
    * Keeps demanding more and more cash-payments in annual aid, over and above various
    off-the-books aid worth $ billions annually to American taxpayers aid it gets from US.
    * Murdered American Rachel Corey by crushing her with a bulldozer: her murderers were set free
    by Israel.
    * Its Mossad agents were seen dancing with joy as the buildings were collapsing on 9/11.
    * A war in-part ginned up by Israel and Israel-firsters in US (Iraq invasion) cost Americans ~4,500
    deaths, 10s of 1,000s wounded, and cost US taxpayers $ trillions with no sight.
    .
    .
    .
    The list of the problems and damage Israel has caused US is almost endless.
    The last thing American people need is a ‘friend’ like Israel.

  52. Talha says:

    I had mentioned to Mr. Giraldi that it would be nice of him to cover the anti-BDS clause that hit the headlines in the wake of Hurricane Harvey, but was not expecting a full autopsy and report on the anti-BDS infection.

    Well done, sir! May god grant you many more years to expose these policies.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @iffen
  53. anarchyst says:
    @whyamihere

    Both judaism and islam spring from the same source. The islamic koran and jewish talmud have virtually identical passages that outline the supremacy of each respective group. These two texts relegate gentiles and infidels to the status of livestock, to be used (and abused) for the nefarious purposes of each respective group. In fact, BOTH islam and judaism proscribe harsher punishments for those who transgress against those of their respective groups while proscribing little or no punishment for those “believers” who transgress against “goyim” and “infidels”.
    Since judaism is much older than islam, it is apparent that islam is an arabicized form of judaism.
    Judaism has already succeeded in undermining Christianity because its disdain for “outsiders”is carefully hidden in its texts which are “for jewish eyes only”. Christian supporters of israel are willing “dupes” and “useful idiots” who are contributing to the destruction of Christianity.
    One divergence between judaism and islam is the treatment of Jesus Christ and his mother Mary. The jewish talmud states that Jesus Christ is an apostate, “boiling in excrement for eternity”, while his mother Mary conceived Jesus with a Roman soldier. Jews HATE Christianity, but will use Christians to achieve their aims.
    The islamic koran reveres Jesus Christ as a great prophet–not the “Son of God”, but a great prophet nevertheless, while his mother Mary is specifically mentioned in the koran and is given a place of high honor.
    I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk of our “judeo-Christian” heritage. There is NOTHING “judeo” about TRUE Christianity. Both judaism and islam regard their supreme being as a “God of vengeance” unlike Christianity…

    • Agree: RadicalCenter, renfro
    • Replies: @Talha
    , @D.L.
  54. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Here’s the deal with Israeli technology. Israel has gotten trillions of dollars in reparations from Germany and hundreds of billions of dollars from America, and lots of foreign aid elsewhere since World War 2 ended. Much of the high technology that Israel has is handed to them, but is it made by Jews? No, it is made by Europeans, European Americans, Russians, Asians, you name it, but most if not all of that technology is not made by Jews. Many people inside of Israel that work in the high technology sector are actually Russian-Israeli dual citizens, non Jewish. Without all of this massive foreign aid, and great help from gentile populations, Jews would not be in the position they are today, their entire race may have been wiped out in fact.

    And a major reason many Middle Eastern countries are “Muslim Hellholes” as you put it is because of the terror Israel has carried out against them. Israel supported the War in Iraq, Israel slaughtered Lebanon, Israel is 100% against Assad in Syria, Israel has obviously had some conflict with the Palestinians, as well as a ton of other nations in the region. The Middle East wasn’t always this violent and destructive, a lot of it is because of Jewish influence.

    • Replies: @Druid
  55. @Che Guava

    Well, they have ‘taken out’ enough Iranian scientists over the years, many others.

    Many others, indeed.

    Assassination: The gift that keeps on giving.

    But hey, we who believe that are “Kunspiracy Theerists!”

  56. iffen says:
    @Talha

    Well done, sir! May god grant you many more years to expose these policies.

    God’s help is needed in gaining wider exposure.

    P. Giraldi could have helped God by avoiding inflammatory language in previous articles.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Art
  57. @Dr. X

    Screw Hamas and Hezbollah, and screw Israel, too.

    That may be redundant.

    How Israel helped create Hamas

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/?utm_term=.0097673db8db

  58. Greg Bacon says: • Website
    @geokat62

    Agreed. Over 2,000 American Jew Rabbis are raising Hell, demanding that NO wall be built to protect our southern flank, let immigrants come in by the score.

    https://www.hias.org/2000rabbis

    But when it comes to Israel, I seem to recall one helluva wall they built, to keep out the impure so that only purebred Juden get to live in Apartheid Israel.

    After watching this video, you’ll probably agree that Israelis are the biggest hypocrites on the planet, always telling the West what to do, and using their ACLU, CRIF and ADL attack dogs to get their way, but better not try that in Israel, you’ll wind up in the hospital while the Israelis are happy that your skull got cracked.

    And is it just me, or has the hasbara troll population on UNZ exploded since Mr. Giraldi’s article about Israel being in control of the USA?

    • Replies: @Anon
  59. donut says:
    @whyamihere

    Dude , this is f**king Weak . Israel a friend ? Like a dose of the clap .

    Love me long time Sarah :

    Our special friend .

    • Replies: @Talha
  60. @utu

    The alt-right is zionist operation.
    The ethnic nationalism will be tolerated only as long as it is and remains decisively zionist.

    Oy vey, Utie-Bob, bingo max! Israeli control over US politics is total, sure-handed and utterly merciless.

    Divide, conquer, rule.

    The alt-right is a tool of the Israelists, used as they require. Perhaps there are some people who identify as alt-right who are unaware of real conditions? Well, so much the better for Israel, nicht wahr?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  61. Talha says:
    @anarchyst

    Hey anarchyst,

    Seriously man? Livestock? Little or no punishment for those who transgress against “infidels”?

    Where do you guys come up with this stuff? I mean, have you ever even done any kind of serious deep-dive into the matter other than what’s out there on wikiislam or JihadWatch?

    Because that’s the thing; you are railing about Zionist influence and can’t even make the connection that the massive smear campaign against Islamic doctrine across the West is practically all anchored to Israel or Israeli-firster groups.

    If you want to beat up on Islam – go for it, there is plenty for post-modern people not to like; but is it too much to ask that you stick to facts instead of just making stuff up?

    Peace.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @anarchyst
  62. @utu

    The alt-right is zionist operation.
    The ethnic nationalism will be tolerated only as long as it is and remains decisively zionist.

    Oy vey, Utie-Bob, bingo max! Israeli control over US politics and government is total, sure-handed and utterly merciless.

    Divide, conquer, rule.

    The alt-right is a creation of Israelists. It is used to support Israelist purposes and intent, typically by appending any alt-right activity as a threat to SJW Goodness. It’s all a variation on the solid propaganda principles of pot-stirring, victim-posing and villain-painting.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  63. Talha says:
    @iffen

    Well I can’t disagree that the titles could have been less incendiary (I wouldn’t have titled them as such) – the language inside the articles is up for grabs. There were a few parts I would have fixed but most parts I would have kept just as is. Everyone’s a critic eh? :)

    The whole thing is a work in progress. That’s why the comments section is here – I’m sure he is open to constructive criticism when delivered the right way.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @iffen
  64. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @whyamihere

    These people have caused more damage the world over for centuries. If you’re a Patriot start with the USS Liberty. If you’re trolling, beat it.

  65. @whyamihere

    My reply to “whyamihere” ;

    1. The Rosenbergs – our atomic sectets sold to Russia, circa 1950 – 51
    2. The Lavon Affair – US must attack Egypt. –circa 1954.
    3. Attack on USS Liberty – June 8, 1967 – once again US should attack Egypt.
    4. Jonathan Pollard – Selling our Top Secret Naval codes (on our nuclear subs) to Russia – 1980-s.
    5. “Dancing Israelis” – 9/11/2001 – released along with 100+ of their brethren by Michael Chertoff !

    A little peek by our friend, “whyamihere”, into the above mentioned events on the Internet, (and no, they are not conspiracy theories), may be beneficial to his enlightenment !

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  66. Rurik says:
    @Jake

    Jews did not start the War on Christmas on these shores. Anglo-Saxon Puritans did.

    dude

    you’re getting beyond ridiculous

    • Replies: @Anonymouse
    , @MarkinPNW
    , @Alden
  67. Talha says:
    @donut

    And Saudi is like the funky guy who steals the camera and does the kug-fu moves and rides away! You’re not sure if the whore is working with him or not. Love the analogy!

    Peace.

  68. Rurik says:
    @Che Guava

    to be (voice of alt-right).

    not in a million years Che

    the alt-right has no one voice, rather it’s simply the collective aspiration of the beleaguered people in the ZUS that are relentlessly demonized, discriminated against legally in all endeavors, and slated for the ash heap of history by our ((overlords)) and their legions of butt-hurt minions (homos, BLM, La Raza, etc…)

    The alt-right in the ZUS are the exact same people as the Swedish nationalists who question the wisdom and prudence of replacing Swedes with Arabs and Africans.

    Or the Austrians who recently voted for an anti-immigrant president. Or the Hungarians who’re building a nice wall.

    We’re all part of the same phenomena and we’re all motivated by the same fundamental exigencies; IOW to stop and reverse the Orwellian, dystopian hell on earth for our children and grandchildren that the ((PTB))

    have in mind for them.

    • Agree: Che Guava
  69. iffen says:
    @Talha

    Oh! I don’t deliver my comments the “right” way, huh?

    And my criticism is not “constructive”? ;)

    • Replies: @Talha
  70. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    No it is NOT you lying shitbag.

    8ch.net/pol

  71. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Yeah, that’s a message-duplicate created by the server hiccuping during posting.

  72. Israel is sometimes referred to as the “51st State,” but that is hardly true as it contributes nothing to the United States, collects billions of dollars a year from the U.S. Treasury and is totally unaccountable in terms of the actual damage it does to American interests.

    I’m starting to get the feeling that the US is actually Israel’s ‘fifty-first state’! Kneel before ZOG.

  73. Art says:
    @whyamihere

    True, many Jews are leftist, but these are mainly secular Jews. If you read the Old Testament, you’d find out that Judaism is most certainly conservative.

    In true fashion – this Jew puts out a diversion argument – it is not about left or right Jews – it is about all Jews who terrorize the ME and threaten America’s freedom.

    Jews are an intellectual plague no matter where the reside. Look at this comment – it is riddled with outright lies and half-truths. Jews diminish life by their dishonesty. Because of Jews and their divide and conquer terrorism tactics, America has become a dishonest country filled with hate for each other.

    The only rational thing to do is to ostracize them – do NO business with them – period. Do not hire them – fire them – get then out of your life and America’s life.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Send then packing to Israel where they can live under their nuke umbrella – terrorizing all of humanity with an Armageddon.

    • Replies: @Sherman
    , @Druid
  74. @Clyde

    Good for Israel. They resist and fight Islam. They are the front line against the eternal jihad of Islam.

    Except, of course, when they’re helping the jihadists trying to overthrow the Syrian government.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Druid
  75. @Johnny Smoggins

    I’d take Islam any day over these fools. At least Muslims have pride.

    They also have enough brains to see what’s going on.

    If I had to decide between the two, I’d take most forms of Islam over the goofy, commercial varieties of “Christianity” and Judaism as well.

  76. Rurik says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    alt-right who are unaware of real conditions?

    I see alt-right as nothing more that paleo-conservative* rebranded

    * which is nothing more than conservative rebranded to distinguish it from neoconservative

    call it what you want, they/we are the people who look at events like this

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/27/george-washingtons-church-tear-down-memorial-honor/

    with a mixture of contempt and sardonic wry..

    - for the non-alt-right people who collectively make this kind of trajectory in the West possible (indeed, inevitable)
    .
    .

    [a popular meme of the alt-right is Pepe the frog, and he is nothing if not the personification of sardonic wry]

  77. @Joe Hide

    We’ve all been had by the murderous, narcissistic, self involved psyschopaths in our groups.

    Exactly.

    And we keep looking to organizations and “systems” (that they infest) to save us; we’ve been had by those concepts as well.

  78. @Mark James

    Yes, the Christian Zionists are a huge problem; but that’s no reason to let the Jewish Zionists off the hook. That’s a classic Jewish ‘zio-skeptic’ gatekeeper tactic to divert attention away from AIPAC et al. Blame it all on the rednecks–just like everything else! At the end of the day, the Christian rapture-Zionists are just dupes of the Jews. They don’t have any real power in their own right. They’re just there to divert attention from the real centers of Zionist power in this country, all of which are overwhelmingly Jewish. Think about: if Christian ‘conservatives’ were really all that powerful, why is it that, after decades of lobbying, they still can’t get Roe v. Wade (to pick an example) overturned? But a ban on free speech (BDS)? No problem!

  79. Sean says:

    According to Giraldi, the people who are the core of the Israel Lobby (American Jews) are preventing criticism of Israel and it works because politically important populations of Bible fundamentalist Christians’ beliefs make them sustainable to pro Israel “Zionist” propaganda. But Israel is simply one of a number of issues that Jews have managed to transform mainstream America thinking on. What it is to be a mainstream American now means accepting many values that are nowhere to be found in the Bible and actually opposed to what fundamentalist Christian believe.

    So calling intolerance of Israeli policies”un-American” won’t work . The culture has been transformed across the board, not just in the restricted area of opinion over Israeli actions . The Israel Lobby is a good thing because it is a gigantic monument to Jewish political and cultural power, which many will tell you is exaggerated. Giraldii is not necessarily wasting his time because American Jews might lose interest in Israel one day. But they will never lose interest in America,; they have to live there.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  80. Rurik says:
    @jane claire

    support the Palestinians, because I don’t, any more than I would support the commie ANC in Africa that was bank rolled by the old Soviet Union

    the problem Jane is that today it’s the ZUS (us) who’re bankrolling the genocide of the Palestinians.

    it’s isn’t a matter of being the champion of the Palestinians because they’re Palestinians, but rather because they are suffering terrible (indeed, horrific) conditions directly due to the policies of the ZUS government, who we’re all forced to bolster with our tax dollars. So that when the IDF shoots another Palestinian child from a rooftop with a sniper rifle, we paid for that bullet, you see? And that’s what has to stop!

    Why are Christians, white people choosing sides between two factions that want our demise anyway?

    The Palestinian people are both Muslim and Christian, and have never bothered anyone until the Jewish supremacists started slaughtering them and stealing their land – with the full support of the US government and ((media)) and most egregiously, the churches!

    The Muslims loyalty to Mecca or other Muslims are no different than the Jews to Israel or the Catholics to the Pope in Europe

    it isn’t Muslims loyalty to Muslims or Jews loyalty to Israel or Catholics loyalty to the Pope – that is the problem

    the problem is white, Christian loyalty to a murderous and anti-Christ Israel, that is the problem

    • Replies: @jane claire
  81. bjondo says:

    untrain well trained dogs

    i know of only one way

  82. anarchyst says:
    @Talha

    All that I have stated is in the jewish Talmud…if you do the research…IT’S ALL IN THE TALMUD…

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Alden
  83. Sherman says:
    @Art

    Hey Genius

    “Do not hire them”.

    I recommend you screen the religion of job applicants to your methadone business headquartered in your trailer.

    Peace
    Sherm

    • Replies: @Art
  84. Talha says:
    @iffen

    Hey iffen,

    We all have bad days. There are plenty of times I regret the wording I have used in a post. The point isn’t to police oneself to the point of political correctness idiocy, but we are all human. We all have egos – there is a way to convey a point without shooting oneself in the foot. Anybody who has had to work at keeping their marriage together knows this all too well.

    There are even times when I ask another brother to review my comments and give me feedback (especially when I think I may have responded with unnecessary opprobrium) .

    Peace.

  85. Wade says:
    @Mark Green

    I think that maybe we’re just a Banana Republic now.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  86. Art says:
    @Corvinus

    Boo! It’s a Joo! Happy Helloween.

    Oh my – a short brilliant comment. Is Hasbara Central (the largest employer in Israel) no longer paying by the word?

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Tell us Little Jew – when you Israelis do a nuke Armageddon on humanity – who will you nuke first – the Vatican or Berlin?

  87. renfro says:
    @Jake

    You ‘re crazy….where do you get this nonsense?

  88. @Anon

    Yes it is, you anonificating ball of earwax!

  89. Talha says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    Hey Seamus,

    Exactly! And remember, not all terrorists are the same. For instance, the MEK – those are good terrorists that do excellent work – work that they get paid for:
    “Five Iranian nuclear scientists have been assassinated since 2007. M.E.K. spokesmen have denied any involvement in the killings, but early last month NBC News quoted two senior Obama Administration officials as confirming that the attacks were carried out by M.E.K. units that were financed and trained by Mossad, the Israeli secret service. NBC further quoted the Administration officials as denying any American involvement in the M.E.K. activities. The former senior intelligence official I spoke with seconded the NBC report that the Israelis were working with the M.E.K., adding that the operations benefitted from American intelligence.”

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/our-men-in-iran

    Peace.

    • Agree: Seamus Padraig
    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  90. @Wade

    I think that maybe we’re just a Banana Republic now.

    Yes, we have no banana — no banana today!

    So we’re a banana-free republic, bereft of bananas, adrift on a sea of sargasso. If we grow bananas, they will taste of iodine.

  91. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde

    US has forgot the lessons of Barbary .Had it not ,we would have seen the end of periodic assaults on American lives, values, interests and polices by the nation that bribed Truman and forced UN through intimidations and bribery ( using American money and prestige )

  92. Wade says:
    @whyamihere

    Invade the World; Invite the World.

    The mass immigration of Muslims into Europe is largely due to the Syrian Civil war which the USA started on behalf of Israeli interests. Our involvement in these conflicts began after 911 when the Mossad cajoled and threatened our people into war with Iraq. Israel knew of the 911 attacks in advance and their assets in our media such as Judith Miller spread the lie that Iraq was responsible. They also spread the lie that Iraq was responsible for the anthrax attacks against Tom Daschle and Tom Brokaw in face of their skepticism about invading Iraq. In reality The Mossad was probably responsible. Israelis blame everything on Palestine and/or Iraq. The letters with the anthrax stated “Death to America” and “Death to Israel.” Israel got what it wanted all the while claiming to be against the war in Iraq. They know they control us. They are letting us take as much heat as possible.

    If we want to get out of all these unnecessary wars (unnecessary from America’s point of view) then we have to drop Israel as a “client state” and disassociate ourselves from them. Israel is bad for the US.

  93. @Sean

    Giraldi is not necessarily wasting his time because American Jews might lose interest in Israel one day. But they will never lose interest in America; they have to live there.

    No, they don’t. If every Israeli has 1000 American slaves — white, black, brown, yellow — he can live in Israel (that is, the new republic composed of formerly Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Iraq), keep kosher in his home, and dine on lobster in the marketplace. Life will be so, so, so very good. Soon to be a reality.

    • Replies: @Sean
  94. RobinG says:
    @Anon

    Try to explain how the alt-right has been drawn into the limelight to be ridiculed and castigated as throwback lunatic losers.

    BTW, “I am told that Anon is likely a variation of A-hole.”

    • Replies: @Rurik
  95. @Rurik

    Jehovah’s Witnesses also reject Christmas as a religious holiday. The stern Puritan fathers were in fact opposed to Christmas celebrations. Otherwise they wouldn’t have been stern Puritans.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Rurik
    , @Ace
  96. renfro says:
    @jane claire

    ” shouldn’t mean I support the Palestinians, because I don’t,”

    Well then you don’t support international law do you? But then you probable don’t know what it is either so why waste my time explaining to the 85 IQs

    • Agree: Rurik
  97. Confession from Qatar on Syria?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-28/shocking-viral-interview-qatar-confesses-secrets-behind-syrian-war

    Why no War Crimes Tribunal for Obama, Hillary,and Saudi thugs for aiding Terrorists?

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Cloak And Dagger
  98. @Rurik

    The PLO was also supported by the old Soviet Union as well as communist Jews and others in the US. Its always left versus right, it’s politics after all. They also supported the Muslim Brotherhood against Assad’s father, but the brotherhood got their asses handed to them. It’s always factions and strange bed fellows because it’s always politics. You can support whoever you want and you will, no one needs my permission or my oath of solidarity, you will anyway. I’m with the Amish.
    All those commie factions were supported by the Soviet Union until the wall fell and then they became the US’s friends, well they were always friends of the US left anyway including the leftist Jews, and then all the old Middle East Regimes started to get overthrown by “rebels” mostly supported by the US, our new friends.
    Some writers like to imagine that communism went away with the wall but really it just opened up and changed hands to ours, that’s why we’re always making way for…Democracy, while crying “But this is a Republic”. There was a reason becoming President was to be someone who was a couple generations in and not everyone who walked through the door could vote, but it’s ancient history now, I’m with the Amish.
    Don’t take my comments too personally, it’s just my opinion and I consider myself a Zionist, I wish the Jews would go home too along with a whole bunch of others that demand I like them and take up their cause. Jews are middle eastern.
    Mexico sends their people here as well as lots of other countries who do so in an attempt to influence the US and it’s policies, just look around at the who is in politics everywhere, but like I said, I’m with the Amish.
    Poor Manafort, he was with the Russians when the State Department had changed hands to the “rebels” in Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @anon
    , @utu
  99. Art says:
    @iffen

    P. Giraldi could have helped God by avoiding inflammatory language in previous articles.

    Oh my – that is a strange upside-down reading of reality — it is the Jews who are being “inflammatory” – it is the Jews who are being terrorists – with their false “anti-Semite” screeds.

    Think Peace —- Art

    p.s. Say iffen – when Israel does its crazy “Samson nuke suicide thing” against all of humanity – who do you want nuked first, Berlin or the Vatican — knowing you through your 1,767,584,365 comments supporting Jews, me thinks it is Berlin.

    p.s. Will you be riding the first ICBM?

    p.s. You have certainly earned the right.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  100. renfro says:
    @whyamihere

    ” Can someone please explain to me (with limited snark, if possible) why you side with Hamas and Hezbollah over Israel?”>>>>

    The Jewish herd of locust stole and are still stealing their land…and killing Palestines indiscriminately… unarmed men, women and children .

    If I were a Palestine I would be with Hamas. I would spend every day trying to kill the Jews who are killing my people, our wives and children , and stealing our water resources and land.

    If there were a Mossad like assassin team in the US I would join that too to assassinate the Jewish Fifth Column in the US that controls US policy for Israel and the ME.

    Clear enough?

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  101. @jane claire

    If you think that American Catholics are loyal to the pope, you don’t know enough American Catholics. Absurd, offensive, and factually unwarranted to lump Catholics in with Muslims.

  102. Talha says:
    @anarchyst

    Hey anarchyst,

    Look – I’m totally unqualified to sift out claims related to the Talmud. If someone else wants to defend the Talmud, most welcome – I can’t because I don’t know what is in there nor how the various Jewish strains regard what’s in there.

    What I do know quite a bit about is the Islamic side of things and what you are claiming is either; 1) simply not true or 2) you are using a specific interpretation* and claiming it stands in the place for what is considered Islamic doctrine.

    As I said before, feel free to criticize Islam to the sky and back, but at least do us all the courtesy of citing something from an academic or reliable source – otherwise, it’s the equivalent of “Your mom, dude!”

    Peace.

    *Note: For sure one may find in the rulings for the Shafi’i school things such as – a Muslim is not put to death for the killing a non-Muslim and that the blood-money compensation is only a third – that is indisputable. But one will also find that in the Hanafi school, the Muslim killer can be put to death and the blood money is the same as for a Muslim. The vast majority of the Muslim countries run their ship in this regard with the Hanafi rules; for those who don’t, feel free to complain to them about getting with the program.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Avery
    , @iffen
  103. RobinG says:
    @Priss Factor

    Khan Sheikhoun, SYRIA, “victims” admitted before alleged attack.

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/10/un-report-on-khan-sheikhoun-23-of-victims-hospitalized-before-the-incident-happened.html#more MOA links to original UN OPC Report.

    In annex II, on page 36 (of 39) of the pdf, it notes:

    Certain irregularities were observed in elements of information analysed. For example, several hospitals appeared to start admitting casualties of the attack between 0640 and 0645 hours. The Mechanism received the medical records of 247 patients from Khan Shaykhun who were admitted to various health-care facilities, including those of survivors and a number of victims who died from exposure to chemical agent. The admission times of the records range between 0600 and 1600 hours.

    Analysis of the aforementioned medical records revealed that in 57 cases, patients were admitted in five hospitals before the incident in Khan Shaykhun (at 0600, 0620 and 0640 hours). In 10 such cases, patients appear to have been admitted to a hospital 125 km away from Khan Shaykhun at 0700 hours while another 42 patients appear to have been admitted to a hospital 30 km away at 0700 hours.

    The Mechanism did not investigate these discrepancies and cannot determine whether they are linked to any possible staging scenario, or to poor record-keeping in chaotic conditions.

    Re: Obama & Hillary. The fraudulent war against Syria is crumbling, but real exposure demands persistence. US citizens should find a way to have standing in the case.

    • Replies: @AmericaFirstNow
  104. @Art

    Well, in fairness to Israel, nuking “German” cities would be a good way for them to kill millions of Muslims nowadays.

    • Replies: @Anon
  105. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @nsa

    What else could one expect from a country infested with the aggressive banderites (the progeny of Nazi collaborators)?

  106. @Anonymouse

    Do you honestly not understand how the “war on Christmas” by Jewish and atheist leftists in our society is different from the devoutly Christian puritans thinking it wrong to have a festive time on Christmas? I disagree with the puritans there, and would not want to live and worship entirely like they did, but your conflating puritans with these hatefully antichristian people is misleading at best.

  107. @Art

    Thing is, hundreds of millions of Christians, including many of us raised in the Catholic Church, would not shed a tear at white-hating America-hating collectivist spinster Jorge Bergoglio and his homosexual and pedophile bishops being hit by a terminal attack. This was a great institution and it has become so thoroughly infiltrated and dedicated to pushing white peolle out of their own countries that I can no longer support it.

    Rather than someone attacking them – which I would never do – I’d rather they simply repent and stop aiding and supporting the destruction of our Western civilization, peacefully. But that doesn’t seem likely, does it.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  108. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @whyamihere

    Could you imagine that we are siding with the US Constitution?
    It was your apartheid bloody state of Israel and the treasonous Israel-firsters, who allied with Military Industrial Complex, which produced the slaughter in the Middle East. The mounds of murdered children in Iraq, Syria, and Libya are the true neocon-ziocon legacy (see Oded Yinon plan).
    Israel is a voracious parasite on the hapless host of the US.

    • Agree: Alden
  109. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Boycott World Jewry and all of their businesses – Hollywood for one…
    They derive their dark financial power from their hoarded wealth and continue to redistribute it to ensure their rule. You think it’s bad now, imagine in 20 years…

  110. @RadicalCenter

    EDIT: even more so, if you think that American Catholics are more loyal to the pope or church than our nation here in the USA, you don’t know enough American Catholics.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Corvinus
  111. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde

    Are you suffering a retrograde amnesia? – The muslim migration to Europe is the result of implementation of Oded Yinon plan for Eretz Israel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw
    Check the names of PNAC and AIPAC. Look who prefers ISIS to sovereign Syria. Check the alleagance of H. Clinton (Israel!), the butcheress of Libya. The opportunistic idiots in service to Israel have been destroying the western civilization, including the US Constitution (see the Texan Abbot).

  112. @Art

    It could be new york, london, Beijing, Tokyo, Moscow, los Angeles, madrid or a number of other capitals thatt get it first. I imagine it will be about a dozen locations across the planet all within a very short time frame. And then Israel will spin it to say it was iran!

  113. @Corvinus

    Zionist lobby as viewed by most Americans –> Overstated, overrated, underwhelming.

    Boo! It’s a Joo! Happy Helloween.

    Now that’s funny. Most ‘Merkins have neither a clue nor an opinion of the Zionist lobbies, while in fact, most of them, smug “professionals” included, verily fill their shorts at the mere mention of Islam.

    For Palestinians, every day is Halloween.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  114. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Ludwig Watzal

    The US is going to the learn the Bolshevik revolution, live.
    The” Two Hundered Years Together” should have been a required reading at the US schools. http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/most-banned-book-in-the-world-200-years-together-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/

  115. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Jake

    The Jews have been ruining the western civilization by corrupting the western governments with money. The Jews believe to be above other people. Well. The “chosen” have already had a taste of their medicine in Germany. If it is OK to be “chosen” for some than it is OK to feel “chosen” by others.

  116. Rurik says:
    @Anonymouse

    Jehovah’s Witnesses also reject Christmas as a religious holiday. The stern Puritan fathers were in fact opposed to Christmas celebrations.

    WASPs are not Puritans or Jehovah’s Witnesses

    the idea that the war on Christmas is being waged by WASPs (rather than Jews) is preposterous

    • Replies: @Anon
  117. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Do you understand that ziocons and Israel-firsters labor against the US Constitution? Read this article again.

  118. @America First Fan

    Here’s a little more info to add to the list.

    It seems that Arnon Milchan is not only a big Hollywood producer but he also traded nuclear triggers with Israel and did a deal with Murdoch for $200 million.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/09/26/the-hollywood-big-shot-and-israels-nuclear-triggers/

    “The Israeli press is picking up Grant Smith’s revelation from FBI documents that Benjamin Netanyahu was part of an Israeli smuggling ring that spirited nuclear triggers out of the U.S. in the 80s and 90s.”

    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/netanyahu-implicated-in-nuclear-smuggling-from-u-s-big-story-in-israel.html

  119. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Greg Bacon

    “…to keep out the impure so that only purebred Juden get to live in Apartheid Israel.”
    Israel is nothing but a huge stain on the memory of the victims of the WWII.

  120. anarchyst says:
    @Talha

    Here you go…
    The teachings of the Talmud are basically all that’s studied in Yeshiva school (rabbi U.). As far as its content. One gem of wisdom contained therein is that any gentile that “reads critically” of the Talmud should be killed. Here’s food for thought. In my county library system, there are several hundred thousand, but not as many as one million books. There is only one copy of the Talmud and it’s been “sanitized” of the following quotes. As far as it’s pertinence to the article and your observation, I’m sure the Talmud give the step by step procedure for the “mohel” to follow when he performs fellatio on an infant boy, newly circumcised, to “purify” the wound. Religiously sanctioned pedophilia there. Here are a few of those “words of wisdom” from the Talmud that guide Jewish thought from cradle to grave….
    Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile (“Cuthean”), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
    Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.
    Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
    Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
    Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
    Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years “and a day” old).
    Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.
    Kethuboth 11b. “When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing.”
    Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies (“subterfuges”) to circumvent a Gentile.
    Insanity pervades Jewish law. If the “religion” appeared today out of thin air, it would be condemend in every civilized nation as an insane cult.

  121. anarchyst says:

    Here you go…
    Only the Jews are humans, the Non-Jews are not humans, but cattle” (goyi= human cattle) [1]
    - Kerithuth 6b page 78, Jebhammoth 61a

    “The Non-Jews have been created to serve the Jews as slaves” [2]
    - Midrasch Talpioth 225

    A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.
    - Sanhedrin 54b

    “When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing.”
    - Kethuboth 11b

    “Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is of three years of age.”
    - Yebhamoth 11b

    “Sexual intercourse with Non-Jews is like sexual intercourse with animals”
    - Kethuboth 3b

    “Whoever disobeys a Rabbi deserves death… Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.”
    - Erubin 21b

    “The birth-rate of the Non-Jews has to be suppressed massively” [3]
    - Zohar II, 4b

    “Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal.”
    - Sanhedrin 59a

    “Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed.”
    - Abodah Zara 26b

    Blessing From Israel with Love
    Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews. When a Jew murders a Gentile (“Cuthean”), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep
    - Sanhedrin 57a

    “Jews are Divine. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God”
    - Sanhedrin 58b

    “As you replace lost cows and donkeys, so you shall replace dead Non-Jews” [4]
    - Iore Dea 337,1

    “To box an Israeli on the ear, is like to box on the ear of God”
    - Sanhedrin 58b

    “God (Jahveh) is never angry about the Jews, just about the Non-Jews”
    - Talmud IV / 8 / 4a

    “The human (the Jew) has to pray every day three times, because Jahveh didn’t make him a goyim, not a female and not an ignorant”
    - Talmud V / 2 / 43b + 44a

    “Towards a Non-Jew the Jew doesn’t cause an adultery… Punishable for the Jew is just the adultery towards his next, that means the wife of a Jew. The wife of the Non-Jew is excluded”
    - Talmud IV / 4 / 52b

    “There is no wife for the goyim, they really aren’t their wives”
    - Talmud IV / 4 / 81 + 82ab

    “You (the Jews) have made me, Jahveh, the only true lord in the world, so I will make you the only ruler in the world”
    “Who wants to be smart shall occupy himself with money matters, because there are no corner pillars in the Thora that are more important, because they are like a sparkling fountain”
    - Talmud IV / 3 / 173b

    “Jews always have to try to deceive Non-Jews” [5]
    - Zohar I, 168a

    “Non-Jewish property belongs to the Jew who uses it first”
    - Babba Bathra 54b

    “If two Jews have deceived a Non-Jew, they have to split the profit”
    - Choschen Ham 183,7

    “Every Jew is allowed to use lies and perjury to bring a Non-Jew to ruin”
    - Babba Kama 113a

    “The possessions of the goyim are like an ownerless desert, and everybody (every Jew) who seizes it, has acquired it”
    - Talmud IV / 3 / 54b

    “The Jew is allowed to exploit the mistake of a Non-Jew and to deceive him”
    - Talmud IV / 1 / 113b

    “The Jew is allowed to practice usury on the Non-Jew” [6]
    - Talmud IV / 2 / 70b

    “When the Messiah comes, all will be slaves of the Jews”
    - Erubin 43b

    “If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there”
    - Moed Kattan 17a

    “Non-Jews are Not Human. Only Jews are human (“Only ye are designated men”)
    - Baba Mezia 114a-114b

    O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews. A Jew need not pay a Gentile (“Cuthean”) the wages owed him for work
    - Sanhedrin 57a

    “If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite…the payment is to be in full.”
    - Baba Kamma 37b

    Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
    – Baba Mezia 24a

    If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile (“heathen”) it does not have to be returned
    - (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b)

    God will not spare a Jew who “marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean…”
    - Sanhedrin 76a

    Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has “exposed their money to Israel.”
    - Baba Kamma 37b

    Jews May Lie to Non-Jews. Jews may use lies (“subterfuges”) to circumvent a Gentile
    - Baba Kamma 113a

    Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human. All Gentile children are animals
    - Yebamoth 98a

    Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth
    - Abodah Zarah 36b

    Gentiles prefer sex with cows
    - Abodah Zarah 22a-22b
    A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years “and a day” old).
    - Sanhedrin 55b

    “The Non-Jews have to be avoided, even more than sick pigs”
    - Orach Chaiim 57, 6a

    “To communicate anything with a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly…”

  122. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter

    The German cities are still paying the “Holocaust” money on the fraudulent claims of Brooklyn Jews. The Jews wants their pounds of flesh.

  123. Rurik says:
    @RobinG

    Try to explain how the alt-right has been drawn into the limelight to be ridiculed and castigated as throwback lunatic losers.

    May I?

    because the Jews who control our media and institutions hate white, Christian type, (especially heterosexual, Southern, unapologetic, unreconstructed, [esp. German]) Gentiles ~ more than they hate anything in this life or the next, and have pulled out all the stops to demonize these people and associate them with Nazis and KKK losers and lunatics. (to dupe the gullible and stupid into equating honoring America’s heritage with wanting to push Ann Frank into an oven)

    that’s why the church George Washington went to has been driven to the point of being ashamed of any association with the founding father of this country. Because Jews (and their legions of butt-hurts) have waged a demonization campaign against all dead (and living) white men to the point of absurdity and beyond.

    And so as the butt-hurts pull down statues to the heroic men who fought against the forces of Northern Aggression- to mollify their terrible butt-hurt, while the alt-right do what they can to defend America’s heritage and the memory of those noble men who fought to defend freedom from government tyranny; I see their point.

    I’m not a member of any ‘alt-right’ anything, but I did spend my life as a working class white guy who listens to wealthy and pampered ((enemies)) of my people like Robert Reich demanding the no “white construction workers” benefit in any way from the tax dollars they’re forced to cough up for Robert Reich to spend, and am very sympathetic to the voices that say he’s a mean-spirited, hatred-consumed little shitstain and an embarrassment to this country, his tribe, his party – him and anyone who agrees with him.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Alden
  124. @RadicalCenter

    As strange as it may sound, they’re not making this up. The Puritans–just like the Plymouth Brethren from which they developed–regarded Christmas as inherently pagan and banned it. As late as the early 19th century, in fact, ‘keeping Christmas’ was still a crime on the books in Massachusetts, even if it was no longer being enforced.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Alden
    , @Ace
  125. Wally says:

    “Israel is sometimes referred to as the “51st State,” but that is hardly true as it contributes nothing to the United States, collects billions of dollars a year from the U.S. Treasury and is totally unaccountable in terms of the actual damage it does to American interests.”

    aka:
    representation without taxation

    http://www.forum.codoh.com

  126. Sean says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    The Arab countries may anticipate that, but the wall the Israelis built around their currently claimed land hardly suggests they want an even greater Israel . The West Kank Arabs already inside greater Israel are an insoluble problem and the reason that US Jews will begin to lose interest in Israel, which will cease to be regarded as democratic state . The enthusiasm was in 1967 when they were winners.

    Anyway my main point is that Israel is not a weak point of US Jews’ power, which will go on whatever happens. American Jews are not going to go to Israel, rely on it.

  127. @Z-man

    I’d like to join and help but I’m already past 60 and what’s needed is ‘thirty somethings’ ready to defend American/Christian values and attack the Cabal. Unfortunately it takes a lot of money and a strong disposition to take on those serpents. And like I said before, the younger you are the less you are to risk your livelihood.

    Is a word missing from this statement? Is the word “likely”, as in, “the younger you are the LESS LIKELY you are to risk your livelihood?”

    If that’s what you intended, I agree.

    Two further complications to an appeal to “thirty somethings” to take up the standard in defense of an unoccupied USA:

    1. As noted in an exchange w/ PeterAUS, some — maybe many — of USA’s brightest young men and women who do find gainful employment in, i.e. media/journalism, computer science, foreign policy or corporate affairs/commerce — even elementary education, fer gawd sake — end up working in support of “the Borg” if not immediately for Borgist employers, not by choice but by seduction.

    2. Holocaustism did not emerge immediately from WWII, it was turned into a brand — by public relations executives and by the numerous Jewish organizations that migrated to the USA with the very large migration of primarily Eastern European Jews beginning in the early 1930s. Holocaustism became an “identity,” or a “brand,” or a “dogma” only in the mid-1960s, after the Eichmann trial. The first forms of dissemination of holocaustism were via Hollywood and television series.
    Holocaust education was inserted into US educational institutions in step-wise fashion. In 1976, the Facing History and Ourselves organization was founded in Brookline, Mass. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facing_History_and_Ourselves

    “The group develops educational material on prejudices and injustice in American and European society, with a focus on Nazi Germany and The Holocaust. . . .

    Since the late 1970s, the group claims to have trained over 10,000 teachers, who have taught over half a million students in the U.S. and Canada. The curriculum is now also used in Israel, Northern Ireland, South Africa and China . . .

    The course is aimed at middle school and high school students. In the classroom, students take part in group discussions and use primary source material to learn about different historical events.[2] The curriculum aims to create a history course with a reflective component, allowing students to think about modern day prejudices. . . . The course is taught by looking into racial segregation in the United States. Students also learn about the Armenian Genocide, Cambodian Genocide, and the history of Native Americans and Japanese Americans in the USA. The final subject focused on is anti-semitism and Nazi Germany.[1] The course aims to connect the events with the students’ lives by calling for reflection.

    Facing History has been said [by whom?] sic to be the only way some students learn about the Holocaust in today’s society, and historian Deborah Lipstadt wrote in 1995 that this single approach is not sufficient. . . .

    It’s safe to assume from the case in Rialto, California, that critical examination of the holocaust narrative is strictly verboten http://www.sbsun.com/2015/05/02/rialto-unified-holocaust-assignment-one-year-later/ America’s middle school and high school students are forced to listen to a particular view of history; guided to internalize certain attitudes; and not only to forbidden challenge that particular view but also forbidden to think critically about that narrative of ‘history.’ Taxpayers support the schools where this dogma is enforced.

    Widespread inclusion of ‘holocaust education’ in America’s universities took a little longer.
    According to Anita Weiner in Expanding Historical Consciousness: The Development of the Holocaust Educational Foundation, after first video graphing interviews (by Jewish mental health professionals) of Jewish survivors or relatives of survivors of the Holocaust, the Holocaust Educational Foundation next focused on establishing holocaust education in major universities in USA.

    It was not until 1987 that Peter Hayes, an Irish Catholic professor of European/German history, afforded the first major access when he agreed to present a course in Holocaust to his students at Northwestern University. Standing in the way of Hayes’s willingness was his heavy teaching load: Zvi Weiss, indefatigable ‘sales rep’ for the Holocaust Educational Foundation, fronted $3000 to hire a substitute for Hayes, while he prepared to teach the course. Preparation included an expenses-paid trip to Israel and Yad Vashem.

    After the success of the course that Hayes began to teach at Northwestern in 1988, Weiss next approached Notre Dame University, where guilt and guile reduced the Fighting Irish to Israel’s Eunuch. The rest of America’s universities fell like dominoes.

    3000 f&%#ing dollars.

    Those essential American institutions having become occupied territory, Zvi Weiss next tackled US military academies. The Air Force Academy was first to add ‘holocaust education’ to its roster, followed closely by West Point and the US Naval Academy.

    In a 2014 panel discussion on Free Speech at the Congressionally-mandated National Constitution Center, moderated by Jeffrey Rosen,** the Center’s director, Stanley Fish, former dean of Liberal Arts at University of Illinois, asserted that the Constitutional guarantee of Free Speech does NOT extend to the Academy. He claimed:

    “The relationship between academic freedom and the First Amendment, I think, can be simply described: Free Speech as established by the First Amendment is an inclusive, democratic idea. Academic freedom is a notion that only lives coherently within an academic structure, which is determinedly EXCLUSIVE.
    What academics do — our trade is to make judgments on each other, and what we do is not foster speech or . . . ensure that it will flourish, but rather it is the case that we devise mechanisms by which we give ourselves the right — at least those of us that have tenured positions —to say who can and who cannot speak freely.

    Another way of looking at the difference between academic freedom and free speech is to think of the topic of holocaust denial, which has been with us for quite a while and will be with us, I predict, for a very long time.
    Holocaust denial in our society under the strong absolutist First Amendment use that Eric referenced is something that cannot be stigmatized or oppressed. Holocaust denial can be promoted on websites, radio programs, videos, and so forth, but in the academy, holocaust denial is interdicted.

    It is not that the question of holocaust denial never arises in the academy, it’s rather that, when it does arise, it never arises as a live option for belief. It is not something in the academy which is regarded as an alternative position that one might sincerely have. Rather, holocaust denial is regarded as one might view Flat Earth denial [sic] or Elvis is Dead denial [sic] That is, it’s the property of kooks and crazies.
    Therefore, although you can write about it and get a position for writing about it in the history department, or get promoted in a history department for writing about it, if you advocate it, you will neither get hired or promoted.

    In other words, in the institutions which the American people support with their tax dollars or their tuition dollars, with the hope that their next generation will learn how to sustain their values and their nationhood, it is not permitted to critically analyze or “sincerely advocate” facts about the holocaust that differ from an ordained narrative.
    (I’m not a constitutional lawyer by any stretch, but that strikes me as a violation of the constraint against establishing a religion, because enforcing a particular narrative version of events, of and forbidding, under threat of sanction, career loss, etc., any contrary theory or argument about it, is the enforcement of a dogma.)

    3. Almost forgot the point of the above backgrounder:
    The point is this: “Thirty-somethings” have been indoctrinated with the dogmatized holocaust narrative since they learned to sit still, talk, and read.

    A high school student in a ~1980 class on Facing Our History is ~55 years old today and making policy decisions in our local school boards, library boards, municipal governments, etc.

    A person who was 20 years old in ~1990 when Zvi Weiss’s programs began to pick up steam in American universities and military academies is now approaching 50: s/he is in the prime of life for exerting political and ‘values’ influence.

    A person who is “thirty-something” today has simmered in the enforced holocaust narrative since the day s/he was born.

    It is all they know.

    And all their lives “thirty-somethings” have been conditioned to refrain, under sanction and taboo, against questioning or even critically analyzing that distorted narrative.

    So, Mr. past-60 Z-man, it’s really up to YOU and your generation — the generation that was NOT indoctrinated from earliest years with holocaustism; not forced to “Face History” uncritically; not subjected to university professors who were overtly enforcing a dogma or cowed into internalizing the demands of the oppressor and doing the oppressor’s work for him.

    The first item on our agenda, Z-man, will have to be to reformat the cognitive map of our mind-benumbed thirty-something children and grand children.

  128. Rurik says:
    @jane claire

    The PLO was also supported by the old Soviet Union as well as communist Jews and others in the US. Its always left versus right,

    I’m sorry Jane but you’re in over your head here.

    Everything isn’t left vs. right.

    The PLO was an organization set up by people who were being slaughtered, genocided, and driven from their ancient lands, and for whom no one seemed to give a damn.

    So they did what they could to protect themselves and their families from Jewish supremacist terrorists and butchers. It had nothing to do with left vs. right, and everything to do with the netherworld depths of human treachery, hatred, murder, theft, and just about everything else which festers in the black abyss of human depravity.

    as for being with the Amish, on that I think we can agree ;)

    • Replies: @jane claire
    , @Alden
  129. @RadicalCenter

    “If you think that American Catholics are loyal to the pope, you don’t know enough American Catholics.”

    Well that’s politics for you; what you didn’t vote your leader? Why so offended at me when the South American Pope washes their feet and welcomes people from everywhere to everywhere? How did Catholics get this right in other peoples nations exactly? The Amish don’t do that, hmmmm, yup I’m with the Amish.

    • Replies: @Alden
  130. renfro says:
    @Jake

    ”Jews did not start the War on Christmas on these shores. Anglo-Saxon Puritans did’>>>>>>>

    You stupid stupid stupid little troll.

    Jews started a war on Christmas centuries ago.

    Nittel Nacht:—— what Jews call Christmas Eve

    Toledot Yeshu…..Jewish text descrating Jesus and demonizing Christmas

    In Jewish sources, Christmas Eve is known as Nittel Nacht.
    When spelled in Hebrew, it takes on a new shade of meaning, becoming a derogatory name for the Christian festival – “Night of the Hanged One”.

    Jews responded to the celebration of Jesus’ birth by telling children that the evil one Jesus was crawling thru latrines that night and would get them and they ate garlic to protect themselves. TOLEDOT YESHU was a text that emerged as far back as the 11th century that was used by Jews especially on Christmas. It was a collection of accounts of Jesus’ illegitimate birth and evil behavior, and was one of the most widely spread works in medieval Ashkenazic culture. It reflected the disdain the Jews had for Christian origins.”

    The Jewish people at that time observed Nittel Nacht as a way to avoid experiencing any pleasure or joy on the day when Christians began their celebration of the Christian messiah’s birth, as well as to ensure that no glory would be given to the occasion.

    NITTEL and TOLEDOT YESHU incorporate the Talmudic tradition which holds that Jesus was punished with boiling excrement….. hence all the references in the Toledot manuscripts about urinating on Jesus and excrement latrines.

    http://thetorah.com/nittel-nacht-an-inverted-christmas-with-toledot-yeshu/

    http://jewishjournal.com/culture/religion/213258/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledot_Yeshu

    • Replies: @Rurik
  131. geokat62 says:
    @Talha

    Your mom, dude!”

    Hey, Talha. Is that the PC version of “yo’ mama, bro”?

    • Replies: @Talha
  132. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Yankee WASPs.

    Happy now?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  133. Toad says:

    This will not go away. A large part of American Evangelicals, particularly in the Bible Belt, believe that the Jews are STILL God’s Chosen People, that the temple at Jerusalem and the kingdom of Israel will be restored, and that there will be a literal Millenium of Jewish rule inaugurated by a “rapture”. Sadly, many of these are well-meaning, sincere, and fine conservatives.
    This kind of “theology” baldly contradicts the explicit teaching of the books of Romans and Hebrews, and the received doctrine of the majority of the early church and the churches that arose from the Reformation.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @D.L.
  134. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    Yes, Puritans (and Presbyterians and the rest) are Judaizers. This is, to put it mildly, not a secret. I don’t know why people protest so much.

    • Agree: Seamus Padraig
  135. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde

    Go to the CNN or leave a comment at WSJ . Not here. People here know something about causality .
    People here also know that if B follows A consistently and predictably then A has something to do with B happening. .

  136. @whyamihere

    Because Hezbollah and Hamas are Israel’s problems! Not America’s!

    Israel Lobby agenda against Syrian government to weaken Iran
    :

    http://america-hijacked.com/2012/02/12/israel-lobby-pushes-for-us-action-against-the-syrian-government/

    In accord with Israeli Likudnik Oded Yinon neocon plan vs Iraq, Syria & beyond:

    http://america-hijacked.com/2014/07/13/the-unfolding-of-yinons-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east-the-crisis-in-iraq-and-the-centrality-of-the-national-interest-of-israel/

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  137. geokat62 says:
    @anarchyst

    Wow, these are quite danmning quotes, anarchyst.

    Let’s see if any of our resident experts on the Talmud can refute them.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  138. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @jane claire

    This is another example of guilt by association . It is akin to character assassination . Eating butter can be a crime because David Dukes ate butter!! This is your argument in essence.

    Now a deceptively neutral mind otherwise having head buried in the asses of the Zionism will offer this kind of casuistry is not unexpected at all.

    • Replies: @jane claire
  139. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    (to dupe the gullible and stupid into equating honoring America’s heritage with wanting to push Ann Frank into an oven)

    Compromise is a good thing, Sind Sie damit einverstanden.

    What say we just toss every single frickin’ Ann Frank book into an oven and call it even?

  140. anon • Disclaimer says:

    With anti-BDS hysteria billowing nationwide, the Trump administration last week nominated Kenneth Marcus, president of a legal advocacy group that targets BDS, to the top civil rights position at the Department of Education (DOE).

    Although publications like The Forward and Washington Post characterize him as a Jewish advocate, Marcus is better known on many college campuses by his proclivity for excessive litigation against Palestine solidarity activists. He once boasted in a letter to supporters that his Louis D. Brandeis Center for Human Rights Under Law is instilling “fear” into activists — especially supporters of the nonviolent, Palestinian-led boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement which aims to force Israel’s compliance with international law and recognize the rights of Palestinians.-Anti-BDS crusader Kenneth Marcus named to top civil rights post in Trump administration http://www.mondoweiss.net

    - Instilling fear to change behavior is terrorism.

    - his elevation to the top civil right position is identical to elevating ISIS supporter to interfaith advancement commission

  141. @Priss Factor

    Why no War Crimes Tribunal for Obama, Hillary, and Saudi thugs for aiding Terrorists?

    The likes of Nuremberg can only be invoked by the victors on the losers to rewrite history, beatifying the victors and demonizing the losers. The above perps haven’t transitioned from being victors to losers yet. It may still happen.

  142. Avery says:
    @Talha

    { “Your mom, dude!”}

    Yo, Talha:

    Don’t know what these posts about Islam are about, but I did a search and you are the first to bring up “mom” in this thread: why would you bring up someone’s Mom, dude (!)?
    Not nice.

    Hit’em with everything else to defend Islam, but in your culture/religion (as far as I know) and mine (I know) it’s verboten to involve the family in these sorts of discussions. And the last person to drag into the muck is one’s mother.

    • Replies: @Talha
  143. Rurik says:
    @renfro

    Jews started a war on Christmas centuries ago.

    it is forbidden for Gentiles to celebrate religious festivals

    A gentile…is liable for the death penalty…if he has invented a religious holiday for himself…The general principle is we do not allow them to make new religious rituals and to make ‘mitzvahs’ for themselves by their own devices. Rather they may either become a Ger Tzeddek and accept all the Mitvahs; or he (the Noahide) should stand fast in his Torah (the seven Noahide Laws) without adding or diminishing…and if he does make some new ‘mitzvah,’ we lash him, punish him, and inform him that he is obligated with the death penalty for this…” (Rambam Mishne Torah—Hilchos Melachim 10:9)

    more:

    Similarly, a gentile who rests, even on a weekday, observing that day as a Sabbath, is obligated to die. Needless to say, he is obligated for that punishment if he creates a festival for himself.

    The general principle governing these matters is: They are not to be allowed to originate a new religion or create mitzvot for themselves based on their own decisions.

    http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1188355/jewish/Melachim-uMilchamot-Chapter-10.htm

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Alden
  144. @renfro

    …and let’s not forget that Hamas was created by Israel, and it backfired on them. Hezbollah came into existence because of Israel’s atrocities towards the Lebanese.

    I would absolutely side with anyone against Israel, including the devil himself. Relatively speaking, Israel is more evil.

  145. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Toad

    This kind of “theology” baldly contradicts the explicit teaching of the books of Romans and Hebrews, and the received doctrine of the majority of the early church and the churches that arose from the Reformation. blaa bla blab blah blah

    That’s not “theology,” not even when qualified by ” “.
    It’s nonsense.

    It’s based on fiction books written by a nutcase working out of a garage in suburban Maryland in the late 20th century.

    Ever try to read those “rapture” stories?

    As for the Puritans and their nasty idiosyncrasies — Salem Witches anybody?

    The good news is that George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson were NOT Puritans. Nor was the Adams family, far as I know.

    They may have had some bad personal habits but Puritanism was not one of them.

    And it was THOSE men who crafted the foundations of the unique American form of constitutional republicanism, not Puritans.

  146. @AmericaFirstNow

    Because Hezbollah and Hamas are Israel’s problems! Not America’s!

    Disagree.

    It IS America’s problem because we made it our problem.

    Americans subsidize the oppression of Palestinians by Israel.

    Hamas and Hezbollah resist Israeli oppression.

    If Americans actually endorse and actively support the values they purport to stand for, they would Stand with Palestine/Hamas/Hezbollah and against the oppressor Israel.

    If USA genuinely endorses the values Jesus endorsed — see Thomas Jefferson’s take on those values — then USA would detach itself from Israel & support the liberation of Palestinians.

    • Replies: @L.K
  147. While I agree completely for the sentiment, and in an ideal world Israel-Palestine would be a single tri-confessional country a-la-Lebanon… let’s be real, with its amount of money and military power (and Jared Kushner in the WH), and with the endless Hamas jihad excuse, Israel will probably wipe the eternally damned State of Palestine from existence and just claim the Palestinians as Israeli Arabs. Whether it is in 5, 10 years, or the next month, it’s what will probably happen.

    Then again, it should be interesting if the emboldened Iran, Hezbollah, Syria (and their big buddy Putin) will have a say in the matter. Obama enabled them, and Trump has to deal with them not only because Vlad is a bud, but because WW3 might be around the corner if cards are not played right. Then again, a quick solution would be for Palestinians to do a Jordan and cave in to the West. Hey, it worked for Bosnia and Kosovo…

    • Replies: @anon
  148. Talha says:
    @anarchyst

    OK – woah – this is a fairly exhaustive list. Again, because I have dealt with this stuff from the Islamic side of things. I know how easily and readily people post all sorts of nonsense including outright lies and mis-translations or lift only a partial quote out of context so I’m going to take this all in with a bag of salt.

    I know Jewish doctrine believes they are special with respect to all other people and it is (at least partially) based on racial/ethnic composition – I’ve spoken to rabbis about this.

    Islam has a demarcation for sure, the spiritual brotherhood makes Muslims makes them closer to each other than others. I may be genetically closer to a Pakistani Christian, but a White or Black convert are my spiritual brothers and we have a special bond and concern for each other. I mean, “brotherhood” needs to have some lexical significance, right? And the doors are wide open, everyone’s welcome.

    In Christianity, you have “the saved” and those that are damned to Hell based on disbelief, but here too, anyone’s welcome through wide open doors.

    White nationalists have whatever constitutes their brotherhood once they’ve figured it out.

    So everyone has some kind of demarcation that sets their group or brotherhood apart – fairly natural. But that doesn’t automatically mean they necessarily start (or preach) going postal on the out-group.

    Again, I have no clue if all that you have presented is accurate or not (totally not my realm of knowledge) – but I’d be interested in knowing the source for this collection of quotes. I don’t even know what these various books are – and (importantly) if they are canonical. Anyone could destroy Christianity based on random quotes from one or another bishop/priest from the past as well as its apocrypha. I mean is this something from some random “hate the Jews” website (akin to wikiislam) or is it from a serious source? That makes a world of difference.

    The reason I bring this up is because it is important where the source of information comes from. If I demand from others that they present authentic and authoritative voices/texts that represent Islam and its doctrines, I must necessarily extend that same courtesy to others – otherwise I am a hypocrite. Others are free to believe anything they want from whatever source is out on the Internet.

    Peace.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  149. @Rurik

    You should move there and take that fight for them with you. Neither the Palestinians nor the Jews/Israelis are my people they are both foreign, bringing the Palestinian fight against Apartheid like the ANC;s fight against whites in Africa is not on my agenda. Now I suggest you go back and consult with other like minded people not in over their head like Noam Chomsky, or maybe “Jews for Justice for Palestinians, The organisation was founded in February 2002. It describes itself as welcoming all Jews, practising and secular Jews, Zionist and not, who oppose Israeli policies that could be seen as threatening Palestinian rights.”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_for_Justice_for_Palestinians
    I’m sure you could find all kinds of them, even Israel needs to have a good relationship with the Palestinians and Jews need to show some support to get the people to sit down and shut up. How do you think most groups push others to the side, they come initially with consent but then grow and grow get into politics and thats all she wrote.
    Qaeda is also a route through Islam and Al Qa’ida was also a periodical written and published by the Iraqi Communist Party, they too had a Iraqi National Congress. The communist leader was exiled from Iraq and lived in France and worked at the United Nations. Wow I’m drowning in this stuff here.

    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Anon
    , @Anon
  150. Talha says:
    @geokat62

    Hey Geo,

    It’s the California surfer version of the same.

    Peace.

  151. @anarchyst

    Yep, some nasty stuff in their Talmud, but we could probably find some equally nasty stuff in the old testament (but not the New Testament, unless I am mistaken), as well as in the Quran. As an atheist, I just smirk at what the various religionists believe, and I think the same of them all – i.e. live and let live.

    Where I have a problem is when they put their beliefs into action in a way that affects me or mine. Subverting this nation in such a way as to become the detriment of our citizenry crosses that line.

    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
  152. @anon

    Regardless of your opinion on character assassination it never stops anyone including you from doing it.

    • Replies: @anon
  153. Anon2000 says:

    Trump has made many big mistakes, including his entire foreign policy team from Tillerson to John Mattis to HR McMaster, but Nikki Haley has got to be one of the worst mistakes he ever made. This daft woman should just be known as “Israel’s ambassador to the UN”, nothing more than an attack dog for Israel. She has made no effort whatsoever to even be remotely objective or cool headed when it comes to Israel. Given all the rumors coming out of South Carolina of her extra marital affairs, I am almost certain she’s sleeping with an Israel loving neocon Jew.

    She is also John McCain in a dress. Every time Trump is anywhere near this woman, he’s talking about going to war with somebody, be it Syria, Venezuela, North Korea…John McCain in a dress is leading the way.

    The whole “Russian collusion” investigation was a farce. The real foreign interference in our election that Mueller should be investigating are Saudi Arabia and Israel. The Saudis donated no less than $25m to the Clinton Foundation and even directly to her campaign, while Israel has enough Jewish agents in the US donating on their behalf.

  154. Rurik says:
    @Anon

    Yankee WASPs.

    Happy now?

    Yankee WASPs what?

    did or didn’t create the war on Christmas?

    either way it’s absurd

    I know lots and lots of WASPs, and ALL of them are very much fond of Christmas. Every bit of it, from the religious types who hold the day sacred as the Lord’s birthday, to the secular types that love the happy, benevolent spirit of the season. NONE of the WASPs that I know (of have even heard of or read about) want to ban Christmas. There may be a few, but I don’t know of one.

    Now SOME Jews, that’s a different matter all together.

    In fact as far as I can tell, they always get some patsy goyim ‘atheist’ to claim he’s the one who’s agitating against the holiday, but I suspect from everything I know about Jews and atheists, is that these saps are put up to it by some Jew with the ca$h.

    Almost every person or organization that’s always demanding the nativity scene be taken down or that children not be allowed to sing Christmas carols are (those few hatred-consumed) Jews.

    (I’m not particularly religions myself, but I love the Christmas season and all it means. I love the smiles on children’s faces, and the simple reason to say something pleasant to another passing soul. I simply can not fathom the hatred of a people who would demand that others not be happy, even for a day. It harms no one! – except the mean-spirited and rancid souls of twisted little monsters in human form).

    http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-first-lamp-of-a-large-scale-menorah-in-front-of-the-brandenburg-picture-id460559056

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Alden
  155. @SolontoCroesus

    Another fine piece of scholarship and logic!

    • Replies: @RobinG
  156. utu says:
    @jane claire

    The PLO was also supported by the old Soviet Union

    In retrospect Soviet influence in the Middle East was very positive. It helped to create secular states like Iraq, Egypt, Syria and Libya (and Afghanistan in late 1970s) with modern universal educational systems, rights for women, industrialization, etc. It was the West and Israel that decided to destroy these states by using Islamists and Muslim fundamentalists and terrorists by supporting them starting with Muslim Brotherhood, Al Queida, Daesh and pumping up and keeping alive Saudi Arabia and Wahhabism. It is possible that fundamentalists were used even against the pro western Islamic state like Iran in 1979 because it was modernizing fast and growing strong and the fact that Iran was very pro West and pro Israel did not save it. Israel prefers weak and dysfunctional states/areas even if they are overtly hostile to Israel over friendly and strong (like Iran of Shah) states.

    It is the West and Israel that are solely responsible for stoking up the flames of radical Islamism and it is them responsible for spreading of Islamophobia in the West which has only one purpose: the acceptance of Israel and its plans of domination and expansion as the comrade in arms gains common enemy. The enemy was however constructed. Everything what we are doing now is reactive to what the US and Israel has created.

    • Agree: Seamus Padraig
  157. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Disordered

    It is wrong to assume that the world would be safer from the continuing evolving wrathful vindictive strategies of the Zionists.

    Wars and friction are the ways and the means by which they survive .

    It is in the DNA . Getting one fight the other while supporting both of them ,same time selectively blaming them in selected forums to keep the fight going are their mod-us operand . They survive on war fought by one against another while alerting the world of the dangers they face from the both.

    So folding accepting defeat or calling it a day wont save the world . Palestinian or no Palestinian , Zionist wants US money . Best way to extract the money, treasure, steal, and spy is to have a war going always all the times.

  158. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @jane claire

    still you are deceptively neutral minded while your head is buried deep in the Zionism’s keister. That’s why you cant see .Its all dark

  159. @Talha

    The Jewish Virtual Library seems to be a decent source. It would be interesting to see if they’ve posted the quotes.

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/babylonian-talmud-full-text

  160. iffen says:
    @Talha

    the massive smear campaign against Islamic doctrine across the West is practically all anchored to Israel or Israeli-firster groups

    It’s not my job to defend Israel, supposedly they have groups for that purpose, but I don’t see how you can make such a sweeping charge. Maybe I don’t fully grasp what you mean by anchored. I also find the existence of a “massive smear campaign” a little hard to believe.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Anon
  161. Talha says:
    @Avery

    Yo Avery,

    I think you mistook what I was saying (I hope others didn’t read it this way) – I don’t go after people’s mom’s – may all of your mothers live long happy lives.

    No, what I was saying was that bringing out random opinions in these matters in order to throw insults with no basis is the intellectual equivalent of saying “Your mom, dude!”

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Avery
  162. MarkinPNW says:
    @Rurik

    Anonymouse has it right. The protestant Puritans condemned Christmas as a Catholic accommodation of Satanic Pagan rituals, same thing with Easter and Halloween. In fact, Christmas was not widely celebrated in the US until after large migrations of non-Puritan lower class British, Germans, and Italians including lots of Catholics, and of course the popularization of Clement Moore’s poem “T’was the Night Before Christmass”.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @renfro
    , @Seamus Padraig
  163. Rurik says:
    @jane claire

    I didn’t mean to be insulting Jane,

    I shouldn’t have made that quip about ‘over your head’. That was callous and crass of me.

    I apologize.

    even Israel needs to have a good relationship with the Palestinians

    it’s just when you make statements like this, that I sort of wince, and wonder how much time you’ve spent learning about this conflict.

    The reason so many of us are so concerned about this particular issue is because it was Zionism that dragged the United States into the world wars in the first place. It was Zionism that foisted the second World War, when Jewish bankers in New York funded the Bolshevik revolution and Jews in Russia and elsewhere perpetrated the Soviet bloody madness on Europa and Russia, starting by starving millions of Christians to death in Ukraine and menacing Germany, thereby foisting Nazism’s harsh response upon Europe and Russia.

    And it’s still going on. Now the Zionists are using the US to destroy nation after nation in the greater Levant.

    So it’s bigger than just some Muslim Arabs in Palestine. This conflict will bring the world to the brink of nuclear war, and perhaps inevitably over that brink, into horrors unimaginable.

    This is why we should try to rein in these scoundrels and psychopaths. Because they’re hell bent on wars and slaughter (so long as they personally don’t get so much as a paper cut). And they’re power drunk right now, having watched the US goon butcher, maim and displace millions of Arabs and Ukrainians and others.

    Mr. Giraldi is a prophet of sorts of our times. The price we will all pay for ignoring his sage advise will be worse than just heartache and tears. It may very well be life on this earth that’s at stake.

    • Replies: @jane claire
  164. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    I know lots and lots of WASPs, and ALL of them are very much fond of Christmas.

    I know lots and lots of Jews, and ALL of them are very much fond of Christmas.

    Happy yet?

  165. Talha says:
    @Rurik

    Now that’s what I’m talking about – that is proper sourcing there. This one was quite unexpected:
    “A gentile who studies the Torah is obligated to die. They should only be involved in the study of their seven mitzvot.”

    Thanks Rurik!

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  166. Art says:
    @Sherman

    I recommend you screen the religion of job applicants to your methadone business headquartered in your trailer.

    Hey Sherm — thanks for asking.

    Our little senior trailer park (rest home) next to the junk yard, on the other side of the tracks, is doing fine. We each own our little plots, and together own all the common areas. We have a mandatory vote on everything. All expenditures over 1% of the total budget requires a super majority. Our co-op 7-11 keeps us in Thunderbird, Pork’n Beans, and Depends. We are all Bitcoin minors. Our co-op owned solar cell farm supplies the electrons.

    To keep out the riffraff, only our border police are armed. When we get drunk, the local cops just tuck us in bed.

    Moshe is our only Jew – he is such a mensch – somehow he had the intellectual fortitude to reject the brain washing his elders gave him in his youth. His subconscious is not clutter with hate for humanity. What a guy.

    Congratulations – I hear that you have been awarded leadership of the Pork’n Beans division on the top floor of Hasbara Central. How good is that?

    Think Peace — Art

  167. @Rurik

    Well that’s funny because we’re taking the same route through Islam/ME as was tried and it mostly failed except for a few, (ANC is currently destroying South Africa), failed before.

    INC in Iraq against Saddam, Muslim Brotherhood in Syria, PLO in Israel, ANC in South Africa, Soviet Union in Afghanistan. Added a couple, Egypt, Libya, Ukraine, Georgia, Serbia was broken up and part of it handed to Muslims mostly from Afghanistan.

    Did you ever notice you never fought al Qaeda but just overthrew regimes and put new leftist regimes in place? Those leftist regimes never seem to like Christians much so how is any of it a benefit to me? Well it seems your all missing some stuff. And like I said, it’s like you said I’m just in over my head, but then I’m with the Amish.

    • Replies: @Anon
  168. Druid says:
    @Clyde

    Idiot, the reason the Muslims are in Europe is because of your beloved Israel’s machinations and wars in the ME fought by the stupid Americans

  169. Virgile says:

    Israel is pathetic country. It has to use terror, blackmail and manipulation to legitimize its existence and its aggression on neighboring counteries. It is the only country in the world that does not have official borders! It makes it a predator.
    Israel knows that if they don’t do that, they will have to stop annexing lands belonging to their neighbors and return the lands they have stolen.
    That will not last. Like apartheid SA, the day will come when Israel as an apartheid state will collapse.
    AIPAC and all the jewish lobbies are just delaying that moment.

  170. Druid says:
    @Anonymous

    Israel has used the “holocaust” as a big bully tool to extract this hundreds of billions of dollars. That’s the holocaust industry

  171. Talha says:
    @iffen

    Hey iffen,

    Start here:

    https://medium.com/@cjwerleman/israels-hand-in-the-short-history-of-islamophobia-df102c687fb6

    https://www.alternet.org/world/follow-money-islamophobia-israel-right-or-wrong

    https://www.wrmea.org/2017-may/pro-israel-organizations-donors-and-islamophobia-findings-from-fear-inc.-the-roots-of-the-islamophobia-network-in-america.html

    https://lobelog.com/the-jewish-communal-fund-invests-in-islamophobia/

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/the-great-islamophobic-cr_b_799277.html

    Yeah – I know – I don’t give much credence to the word “Islamophobia” – since I believe there are valid academic criticisms one can level at Islam and even valid concerns. But this over-the-top, lying-through-your-teeth, character-assassination business has a money trail behind it and it goes hand in hand with pro-Israeli groups and donors.

    I have said this before, there are plenty of honest and objective academics who are Jewish and write about Islam. They are quite good and I have benefited from their works – and even cited them on occasion. I do not lump them in with the above crowd; they wouldn’t be caught anywhere near these slimy organizations.

    I would love to see Mr. Giraldi do a deep dive into this as well since it has serious foreign policy repercussions. At least I’d like to see if he has anything to mention about this connection from the perspective of anecdotes and general feeling having worked in DC.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @iffen
  172. Rurik says:
    @MarkinPNW

    Anonymouse has it right. The protestant Puritans

    I wasn’t arguing about the Puritans

    I was talking about WASPs

    large migrations of non-Puritan lower class British, Germans

    and the contemporary war on Christmas

    not some marginal groups somewhere who prohibit their flocks from celebrating Christmas

    but rather the ubiquitous hatred of and banning of Christmas by, for instance banning Christmas carols in the schools, and forbidding retail staff in the stores from wishing customers a Merry Christmas.. That kind of thing.

    It’s so all-pervading to the point where Trump has claimed he’s going to bring back Merry Christmas, it’s been under that kind of opprobrium

    from Jews

    not
    from WASPs (Yankee or otherwise)

    • Replies: @Anon
  173. Fed up says:

    The true capital of JUSA isn’t DC, it’s Hell Aviv.

  174. JackOH says:

    It’s sobering to think that the milder comments above would likely mark a junior accountant, an associate professor, a government worker as someone not totally on board with diversity consciousness, someone whose personal opinions may hold him back from being a fully committed team player, someone who may need counseling in high-diversity settings. All the myriad ways a productive worker who utters crimethink has his career poisoned, his prospects abridged.

  175. Druid says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    Specifically ISIS. They’re sewing chaos!

  176. Nigel Farage says:

    “There are about six million Jewish people living in America, so as a percentage it’s quite small, but in terms of influence its quite big,” Farage said. “They have a voice within American politics, as indeed do the Hindu groups and many other groups in America. But I don’t think anybody is suggesting that the Israeli government tried to affect the result of the American elections.”

    “There are other very powerful foreign lobbies in the United States of America and the Jewish lobby with its link to the Israeli government is one of those strong voices,” he continued.

  177. Avery says:
    @Talha

    Yo, Talha, if I mistook – then my sincere regrets.

    • Replies: @Talha
  178. @Talha

    Lt. Col. Louis Lee Hawkins, Col. Paul Shaffer, Lt. Col. Jack Turner, William Cottrell, Donald Smith, Robert Krongard , and Brig. Gen. Harold Price all disagree that MEK is a “good” group of terrorists.

    • Replies: @Talha
  179. RobinG says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    NO! TOTALLY, NO!

    Scholarship, maybe. Logic, nope. Just look at that conclusion: “The first item on our agenda, Z-man, will have to be to reformat the cognitive map of our mind-benumbed thirty-something children and grand children.”

    That may be a long-term goal (and whether it’s really worthy is another question) but as a “first item” it’s absurd. Where’s the appeal? S2 wants to get [who, how many?] into intensive deep-study groups to revisit world history. Good luck with that!!!

    Instead, look at the simple clarity suggested by London Bob at #47, “The JFK and RFK memorial campaign to have AIPAC register under FARA?” Brilliant, with an emotional tag. Indeed, there must be a way to take the current outrage over alleged foreign meddling and direct it Aikido style, at the well documented gross interference of The Lobby.

  180. @Sean

    Anyway my main point is that Israel is not a weak point of US Jews’ power, which will go on whatever happens. American Jews are not going to go to Israel, rely on it.

    Of course they are. How many Jews do you know, anyway? They will maintain homes in Israel and in the USA. Fella, you just don’t get it; the USA is a province of Israel.

  181. Wally says: • Website
    @Mark Green

    And it’s the false & quite impossible narrative of the ‘holocaust’ which allows them to get away with it.

    ‘All criticisms of Israel / Jews leads to Auschwitz’.

    Truth is hate to those that hate the truth.

    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”

    - Gerard Menuhin / righteous Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
    , @Vinteuil
  182. Rurik says:
    @Talha

    There’s some good stuff there Talha,

    for me what’s mindboggling (and scary) is that there really are people who believe that crap!

    it’s also helpful for understanding the uniquely endemic hate that so many Jews seem to harbor for others

    and the reference to seven countries made me think of General Clark’s memo that seven countries (in the Middle East) were slated for destruction.

    4
    It is a positive commandment to annihilate the seven nations who dwelled in Eretz Yisrael as Deuteronomy 20:17 states: ‘You shall utterly destroy them.’

    Anyone who chances upon one of them and does not kill him violates a negative commandment as ibid.:16 states: ‘Do not allow a soul to live.’ The memory of them has already been obliterated.
    ד
    מצות עשה להחרים שבעה עממין שנאמר החרם תחרימם וכל שבא לידו אחד מהן ולא הרגו עובר בלא תעשה שנאמר לא תחיה כל נשמה וכבר אבד זכרם:

    5
    Similarly, it is a positive commandment to destroy the memory of Amalek, as Deuteronomy 25:19 states: ‘Obliterate the memory of Amalek.

    It is also a positive commandment to constantly remember their evil deeds and their ambush of Israel to arouse our hatred of them, as ibid.:17 states: ‘Remember what Amalek did to you.’ The Oral Tradition teaches: …Remember’ – with your mouths; …Do not forget’ – in your hearts.’ For it is forbidden to forget our hatred and enmity for them.

    http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1188349/jewish/Melachim-uMilchamot-Chapter-5.htm

    Peace

  183. @RobinG

    Israel 1st US media (and BBC News too!) won’t mention Hillary Clinton’s emails which pushed Syrian regime change for Israel’s sake:

    http://america-hijacked.com/2016/03/22/clinton-email-shows-us-sought-syria-regime-change-for-israels-sake/

  184. Old Jew says:
    @nsa

    Dear NSA,

    If you’d only know, for how long I have been waiting for Mr. Giraldi to slide down the memory hole.

    And take Professor Kevin MacDonald along with him.

    The only temporary reward for my patient waiting was Dr. William Peirce PhD. and his “National Alliance movement” sinking into that same hole.

    Dr. Peirce was a much more articulate “Down with the Jews” activist, than Dr. Giraldi.

    Can you remember him Mr. NSA?

    Mr NSA, I wish you and me, a long and healthy life, so we can be alive to witness Mr. Giraldi’s professional sunset.

    And Dr. Giraldi , I wish you too, a long and healthy life. Long enough to discover a more interesting line of work than “USS Liberty” and”Damn Israel”.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Dr. X
    , @chris
    , @Art
  185. geokat62 says:
    @Gladstone

    In case anyone was interested in the official (abbreviated) lyrics to the song, The Goyim Know:

    [MORE]

    Hey, haChaim
    (What ?)
    I think the goyim know
    (Thats rediculous, the goyim don’t know)
    I think they know, there..
    (They don’t know)
    They know..

    The goyim know, the goyim know
    They know all the things that we have done
    And now they’re tellng everyone
    But the goyim know, the goyim know

    They know all the things we did back then
    And now we’re trying to do it again
    But the goyim know, the goyim know

    We wanna open the borders to their countries
    And fill them with diversity
    But the goyim know, the goyim know

    We wanna turn the women into men
    And make the guys more feminine
    The goyim know (the goyim know)

    We wanna make the white man feel guilty
    And put the black man allover tv
    The goyim know (the goyim know)

    And soon they won’t want us around
    We’re gonna have to shut it down..

    Cause the goyim know
    The goyim know
    Cause the goyim know

    If I were to modify the lyrics, I would have added the word “informed,” as in “the informed goyim know.”

  186. anarchyst says:
    @RadicalCenter

    The “beginning of the end” of Catholicism was sealed with the infiltration of the Catholic Church “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” of the 1960s by Jews and Protestants.
    Much Catholic ritual was discarded, as well as the promotion of the absolution of the Jews for Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and death, despite vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus Christ which exists to this day. The fact is, the Jews DID get the Romans to crucify Jesus Christ and DID accept full responsibility for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ. As is the case today, they got others (Pontius Pilate) do do their “dirty work” for them…
    Abandoning the use of Latin in the Mass destroyed its “universality”. Previous to Vatican II, one could attend Mass anywhere in the Roman Catholic world and understand the meaning of the Mass.
    Prohibition of the celebration of the Tridentine Mass (except by special ecclesiastical permission) pushed many Catholics away from the new “Modern Mass” and the New Church, in general…It took a brave Cardinal Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X to “push back” against Vatican II and re-legitimize the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass and other Catholic rites.
    In pre-Vatican II times, the priest (celebrant of the Mass) was considered to be a part of the congregation, and a representative of the people.
    By turning the priest around to face the congregation, the priest was no longer a representative, but an “actor”, diminishing his status and importance.
    One area where the Catholic Church could improve itself involves celibacy, which is NOT Church “dogma” or doctrine. Celibacy was put in place during the middle ages in order to keep Church property from being inherited by family and relatives of priests and bishops. Celibacy was based on purely financial considerations–nothing more. It is interesting to note that Episcopal (Anglican) priests who convert to Catholicism can bring their families with them to the Church while Roman Catholic priests are denied marriage.
    It was a grave mistake by the Church to de-legitimize celebration of pre-Vatican II principles.
    Postscript: The Vatican has re legitimized the celebration of the Tridentine Mass and other pre-Vatican II practices…

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  187. utu says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Very interesting about the behind the scene actions of Holocaust narrative creation and universalization. Thanks.

  188. Off the Map. First Tel Aviv, then Washington DC.

  189. Talha says:
    @Avery

    No problem Avery. If I ever get out of line in that regard, by going after someone’s family – especially their mother; please put me in check with extreme prejudice.

    Peace.

  190. geokat62 says:
    @Old Jew

    Mr NSA, I wish you and me, a long and healthy life, so we can be alive to witness Mr. Giraldi’s professional sunset.

    Hi, OJ. Long time no see.

    Could you do us all a favour and explain why in specific terms you are so eager to witness Mr. Giraldi’s professional sunset? I’m serious. Let’s take this article, for example. What specifically has Mr. Giraldi written about that you find to be fallacious or unsupported by the facts? Again, please be specific. Thx.

    • Replies: @Old Jew
  191. Dr. X says:
    @Old Jew

    Dear NSA,

    If you’d only know, for how long I have been waiting for Mr. Giraldi to slide down the memory hole.

    Ummm… considering who really holds the leash of the U.S., don’t you mean “Dear NSA/Mossad”?

  192. Talha says:
    @Chris Mallory

    Hey Chris – yeah – it’s good that some people inside the military command (or retired) have their heads on straight. I was being sarcastic in that post by the way – I wouldn’t trust MEK as far as I could throw them.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  193. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Trump has claimed

    And Trump is the enemy of Jews from when exactly?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  194. @RadicalCenter

    The Puritan “War on Christmas” was a continuation of the war on paganism.

    Early Catholic kings and kingdoms (like Charlemagne’s HRE) and Crusading Orders (like the Teutonic Knights) spent much blood and treasure trying to crush pagan peoples and certain pagan practices in Europe.

    In a 17th century, post-Renaissance context, the desire to actively suppress paganism was fairly reactionary and medieval (as was the urge to hunt witches).

    As for the “Judaizer” accusations – this was a term of insult in the 16th and 17th centuries to deride European Christians who were attracted to the Old Testament. But why were some Europeans so attracted?

    If you read the Bible cover to cover, it’s hard to ignore the fact that the OT is far more epic and conservative than the NT. Who would you rather read about? Noah and his ark, David fighting Goliath, Moses leading his people out of bondage, etc or Jesus going around loving his enemies, turning the other cheek, and submitting to Caesar? Should sinners be punished (OT) or meekly forgiven (NT)?

    Bible-thumping, in any case, was something associated with the lower classes and “uppity” middling sorts (hence the terms of ridicule). Certain aristocratic types were horrified to hear, for example, John Knox use the OT to preach that a nation should never be ruled by a woman (Queens Mary and Elizabeth). Knox would have been a “Judaizer” simply for lending so much weight to the OT.

    As for the usual claims about Cromwell’s interactions with Jews, these are simply false – as anyone with even a Wikipedia-level understanding of British history can discover.

    • Replies: @Anon
  195. @Talha

    All but one of those men were Americans murdered by MEK. The last guy was the target of a MEK assassin team using what the CIA called the first remotely operated IED. He survived.

    • Replies: @Talha
  196. KenH says:
    @utu

    The alt-right is zionist operation.

    Breitbart is alt-light, not alt-right. Breitbart’s Steve Bannon condemned the alt-right on 60 Minutes not long ago. Breitbart is an Israel Uber Alles site.

    Alt-lighters are race blind civic nationalists who think black and Latino race chauvinists and rabid leftists will eventually come around to race blindness and flag waving with a carefully crafted sales pitch coupled with some economic wonkery.

  197. @RobinG

    Thanks, Cloak and Dagger.

    RobinG your CAPS and !! make a powerful argument.
    Compelling!!!
    Go for it (used up all the ! s on the keyboard)

    Jonathan Turley was on C Span this morning to discuss the Mueller indictments etc. Turley practices and teaches Criminal Law at one of the DC area law schools. He’s a frequent guest on C Span and is remarkable for eschewing ideology in favor of objectivity.

    Among other things, Turley mentioned that some may find themselves in trouble for failing to register as foreign agents. “FARA has not been enforced very vigorously, and very few have been prosecuted on relative to FARA,” Turley said, “but ultimately it’s just an administrative matter, easily resolved: someone files the papers and registers.”

    Passions aroused at the mention of FARA, I recalled that Mitchell Bard told an audience of Children of Holocaust Survivors (CJHS)

    This is one of the things that I always found absurd about criticism of AIPAC: People who would say AIPAC’s become this right-wing Republican organization. AIPAC, whether you like it or not, goes by the policy of the government of Israel. And if the government of Israel tomorrow says, We’re giving up the Golan Heights, AIPAC is going to come out with talking points for why Israel can give up the Golan Heights.
    I can tell you how many years since ’73 the Israeli Lobbyists had talking points for why that is bad for Israel’s security, but if Israel decides that that is something it can live with, the pro-Israel lobby’s going to support it. https://www.c-span.org/video/?296741-1/arab-lobby

    Slaaam dunk: Bard said, on the record, in C Span’s archive, at least twice, that “AIPAC does what the government of Israel tells it to do.” That seems a cut-and-dry definition of an agent for a foreign government. AIPAC and any other organization Mitchell Bard works for should be required to register as a foreign agent.

    OK, so you contact somebody and raise the issue, and press it hard enough so that Mitchell Bard registers as a foreign agent: he signs the papers, now it’s official.

    Or he does another bob-and-weave the way ZOA did back when Bobby Kennedy demanded that some Jewish group register, and Donald Rumsfeld, then a young representative from Illinois, wrote a letter to Kennedy explaining why that was not going to happen.

    If Bard does register under FARA, what would change?
    If you carried on your campaign, RobinG, to use RFK and JFK to emotionally rev some somebodies to insist that AIPAC register under FARA, what would change?

    Would US Congressmen stop trekking to Israel? Would We the People no longer see Congress pass resolutions unanimously when the matter is pro- Israel, or anti- one of Israel’s enemies?

    Would registering AIPAC under FARA change the entrenched corruption of the US Congress?

    I agree with your last sentence, RobinG:

    Indeed, there must be a way to take the current outrage over alleged foreign meddling and direct it Aikido style, at the well documented gross interference of The Lobby.

    But you maintain that it is “absurd” and, apparently, the opposite of Brilliant to achieve that goal by educating people, especially young people; by attempting to use reason AND emotion — the qualities of well-crafted rhetoric — to awaken them to the realization that they have been lied to, and to try to guide them to a process of absorbing new information that is in conformance with reality, and to do that in a way that is not destructive of their own values and not vengeful but does seek justice — Yeah — that’s a tough haul.
    I don’t see an alternative —

    Actually, I do see an alternative: Machiavelli sketched it: When a society has lost its virtu, Machiavelli wrote, the only way for it to regain its moral footing is by appointing a dictator, for a limited time, to impose stern measures to weed out the evil doers and revitalize the community around shared values.

    So there are three options, RobinG:
    – The Brilliant option: Register AIPAC under FARA
    This option does nothing to effect your ultimate desire, to somehow turn the Russia investigation into an investigation of the influence of the Israel lobby (Turley alluded to such a scenario without actually mouthing words like “Israel” or “AIPAC” ).
    Got another Brilliant idea how to do that?

    – The Absurd option: ‘Each one teach one’ — starting in your own living room and neighborhood bookstore and library, educate yourself, your children, family, friends and neighbors on information that you think is solidly sourced and honestly represents reality, about nefarious influences on US history and government; what steps might be taken to reform that situation; and the dire outcomes if the situation is not resolved.
    Maurizio Viroli posted this on his blog recently: Freedom is Tiring; Better be Servants

    Except for a small minority of strong spirits, human beings consider freedom a heavy burden that they gladly lay in the hands of those who are willing to take the trouble of choosing for them, in exchange for total submissiveness.

    Viroli expanded on the theme, using the story of The Great Inquisitor from Dostoevsky’s Brothers Karamazov. I can’t summarize the piece adequately; it’s only 800 words, translated from the Italian.

    – The Machiavelli option, dictator-for-a-time to re-instil virtu in the people and their leaders.

  198. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Millennial

    medieval (as was the urge to hunt witches)

    The medievals didn’t hunt witches much. They were about as likely to hunt witch-hunters.

  199. Corvinus says:
    @Art

    “p.s. Tell us Little Jew – when you Israelis do a nuke Armageddon on humanity – who will you nuke first – the Vatican or Berlin?”

    Exactly why this blog and you in particular are at times comedic gold. Anyone who you believe is Jewish, merely because they oppose your position or disagree with what you say, is automatically a Jew. No evidence required.

    For the record, I’m a white American man who is of Polish, German, and Dutch descent. But if it makes you happy in your safe space to think I’m Jewish, knock your socks off.

  200. Corvinus says:
    @jacques sheete

    “Most ‘Merkins have neither a clue nor an opinion of the Zionist lobbies, while in fact, most of them, smug “professionals” included, verily fill their shorts at the mere mention of Islam.”

    Most Americans actually have a clue and opinion of “Zionist lobbies”–overstated, overrated, underwhelming. Now, with the mention of Islam, it’s RADICAL Islam.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  201. iffen says:
    @Talha

    But this over-the-top, lying-through-your-teeth, character-assassination business has a money trail behind it and it goes hand in hand with pro-Israeli groups and donors.

    Okay, I have read enough to understand your point of view. I see the connection to the pro-Israeli groups but you wrote “to Israel”.

    • Replies: @Talha
  202. Talha says:
    @Chris Mallory

    Ah ok – I hadn’t come across those names before. I knew they had targeted Americans back in the day so thanks for the details.

    Peace.

  203. @Gladstone

    The story of the Tower of Babel.

    This interpretation/lesson is from a pablum-y Christian bible website https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-stories/the-tower-of-babel.html

    Genesis 11:1-9
    The descendants of Noah were living in the area of Mesopotami in Babylon. They settled in a land named Shinar. The population was growing and they all spoke one language. The people decided to build a tall, proud symbol of how great they had made their nation. The Babylonians wanted a tower that would “reach to the heavens” so that they could be like God and that they would not need Him. They began to construct a great ziggurat.

    God did not like the pride and arrogance in the hearts of the people. God caused the people to suddenly speak different languages so they could not communicate and work together to build the tower. This caused the people to scatter across the land. The tower was named The Tower of Babel because the word Babel means confusion.
    This story is a powerful reminder of how important it is to obey God’s Word and to not think that we can build a successful but godless life on our own!

    Here’s an interpretation of the Babel story from Aish hahtorah

    http://www.aish.com/tp/b/lp/48955856.html

    THE TOWER OF BABEL
    The descendants of Noah all decided to live together in the great valley of Babel. They appointed the first dictator and all spoke the same language (Hebrew, according to tradition). They then decided to wage war on their Creator. “We will build a Tower to ascend Heaven and battle the Almighty!”
    Others explain that they denied God’s Hand in the Flood, and saw it simply as a quirk of nature. Thus it was imperative to build supports for the Heavens, to insure that they don’t fall down again!
    In any case, from an ideological standpoint they were much worse than the generation of the Flood. Yet they were not killed like the previous generation, because they had the great trait of unity amongst themselves!
    [that's interesting: the god of the Hebrews kills his chosen people, first by flood -- which Noah defies, then god kills their community and cultural achievements by imposing diversity -ed]

    This was the first dictatorship, where the individual is not important, only the society. The Sages comment that when a brick would fall down during construction of the Tower, people would bemoan the loss: “How long will it take to carry another one up!” However if a person fell, he was considered expendable. Such a monolithic society could never produce an independent thinker such as our forefather Abraham.

    God once again took counsel from the angels (see Parshat Bereishit) and came down to see for Himself (i.e. get as much first-hand evidence as possible!). God confused them into now speaking 70 different languages (Babel = babble), corresponding to the list of Noah’s descendents in the end of the Parsha. They could not communicate with each other, let alone coordinate such an enormous project.
    According to the Midrash, one-third of the Tower collapsed, one-third sunk into the ground, and one-third was a reminder of the great folly of mankind’s undertaking. The 70 languages were scattered around the globe, giving rise to diverse cultures. Only the descendents of Shem (the Semites) retained the original language, Hebrew.

    [god killed his chosen people a couple more times -- at Mt. Sinai the Levites were instructed to kill the Hebrews who had worshiped the Golden calf, and a second time, the Hebrews who clamored to return to Egypt rather than continue with the conquest of Canaan were punished. I don't think Jesus did stuff like that. Neither did the god of Zoroaster.]

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  204. renfro says:
    @MarkinPNW

    ”In fact, Christmas was not widely celebrated in the US until after large migrations of non-Puritan lower class British, Germans, and Italians including lots of Catholics, and ….>>>>>>>

    Yes and no.
    Jamestown Va was the British and ‘first’ colony in America (after the Lost Colony)…the Puritans didnt land here until 5 or 6 years later in 1620. Following the British in Va were Scot/Irish and Germans….they made up the bulk of the southern colonist and always celebrated Christmas.

    http://www.revolutionarywararchives.org/christmasthen.html

    Although Christmas wasn’t outlawed outside of New England, several denominations, mostly found in the middle colonies, were opposed to the celebration. In 1749, a visitor among the Quakers in Philadelphia noted that: “Christmas Day. . . The Quakers did not regard this day any more remarkable than other days. Stores were open. . . There was no more baking of bread for the Christmas festival than for other days; and no Christmas porridge on Christmas Eve!”

    At first the Presbyterians did not care much for celebrating Christmas, but when they saw most of their members going to the Anglican Church on that day, they also started to have services. Philip Fithian, a Presbyterian missionary working among the Virginia Scotch-Irish in 1775, remarked that: “Christmas Morning – Not a Gun is heard ­Not a Shout – No company or Cabal assembled – To Day is like other Days every Way calme & temperate.”

    To the Anglicans, Roman Catholics and Lutherans, the Christmas season was embraced and celebrated mainly by the Church of England and the Roman Catholics, and primarily in the Southern colonies.

    The celebration of the Christmas season in the southern colonies consisted of parties, hunts, visiting, feasts and church services. Christmas decorations generally consisted of holly and ivy strung throughout the house, with a sprig of mistletoe prominently displayed. A great effort was made to decorate the churches with laurel, holly, and other garlands.

    The traditional feast varied from household to household (depending on how wealthy the family was) but generally, consisted of wines, rum punches, hams, beef, goose, turkey, oysters, mincemeat pies, and various other treats. The season was considered a grown-up celebration, but presents would generally be given to children.
    Irena Chalmers notes that in 1759, that George Washington gave the following presents to his children: a bird on Bellows; a Cuckoo; a Turnabout Parrot; a Grocers Shop; an Aviary; a Prussian Dragoon; a Man Smoking; a Tunbridge Tea Set; 3 Neat Books, a Tea Chest. A straw parchment box with a glass and a neat dress’d wax baby.
    Southern families usually supplied rum and presents (often candy) to their slaves on the first of the year.”

    • Replies: @Alden
  205. denk says:
    @Che Guava

    Hello Che,

    The Jeff Brown thread is back….in case you’r interested !

    http://www.unz.com/article/how-can-western-capitalism-beat-this/

  206. Talha says:
    @iffen

    You forgot our friend, Avi Lipkin, already?

    One of the worst hack-jobs (trying to pass off as an academic work) on the Bani Qurayza incident was done by the late Prof. Kister from Israel. I mentioned there were good Jewish academics writing on Islam – well, some of the worst come out of Israeli universities.

    Furthermore, I wouldn’t make a huge gap between Israel and its numerous scattered political supporters – their political strategies and goals are in alignment. I could say the same for Saudi and its many Wahhabi-style graduates that are dispersed far and wide*.

    Peace.

    *Note: Not all graduates from Saudi universities are Wahhabi-leaning (far from it) – but you can pretty much figure it out within four questions; start with – “Where is Allah?”. Next, proceed to asking them their opinion of Imam Ghazali (ra) and so forth…

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @iffen
  207. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Talha

    You think Lipkin actually has serious influence?

    Furthermore, I wouldn’t make a huge gap between Israel and its numerous scattered political supporters

    Surely it depends on whether attitude to Islam is a cause or a result of support for Israel?

    Further, just as the “orientalist” attitude of the earlier, well, Orientalists led to a natural backlash, there is some outflow the other way, not necessarily connected to Israel at all. Said in “Orientalism” went far overboard, and since he’s practically worshiped in many academic circles the reaction is understandable.

  208. @RobinG

    otoh

    Tulsi Gabbard is hard at work on her Stop Arming Terrorists initiative.
    The bill now has 14 co-sponsors, nearly evenly divided across party lines.

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/10/my-entry.html#comment-6a00d8341c72e153ef01b7c92f60aa970b

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/06/what-does-tulsi-gabbard-believe

    imo Gabbard is a ‘change agent’ worth backing.

    nb according to a participant at SST, a Saudi prince is making noises about a looming attack on Hezbollah.

    AND a US general spilled beans: 4 000 not 500 US troops in Syria.

  209. Disheartening. I cannot think of any period in US history in which a body of elected officials have engaged in so much action against the US citizen and to do openly without pushback is peculiar.

    Whether they are supporting illegal immigration, needless ineffective foreign use of force or demanding that citizens cannot criticize a foreign state. One keeps thinking, ahh, nonsene this will go away —

    But it seems not.

  210. WHAT says:
    @Corvinus

    “Literally ziocuck” the post.

  211. Fmr Israeli minister tells Democracy Now’s Amy Goodman how the ‘anti-Semitic trick’ is used in US:

  212. @whyamihere

    Did you bother to read the article? I think it is self explanatory.
    Hamas and Hezbollah have dared to fight back when the terrorist
    state invaded their lands. That’s what men do. The only foreign
    country in modern history to attack America is Israel. In 1967, they
    attacked the USS Liberty. On 9/11 they attacked the World Trade
    Center killing over 3,000 people. Our demented foreign foreign policy
    is under the complete control of Israeli dual citizens. Through the
    absolute destruction of main stream media they have practically
    removed journalism as a career choice for college students. I could
    go on…..and on……and on…….and it sail over your head.

  213. @whyamihere

    There is no future for Israel and Zionism’s and the USA will drope Israel or it will go down with her.
    I lived in Cuba during the USRR colapse and the Russians drope Fidel and Cuba right there on the spot.
    Soon the political class or whoever will be in charge will have to chose either us or them.
    Cant afford Israel, his enemies (now ours)and our domestic issues simultaneously any more.

  214. iffen says:
    @Talha

    You forgot our friend, Avi Lipkin, already?

    No, I just don’t give a lot of credence to or place much importance on such.

    One of the worst hack-jobs (trying to pass off as an academic work) on the Bani Qurayza incident was done by the late Prof. Kister from Israel.

    You are going back hundreds of years and pulling hazy and semi-mythical incidents and using them in your grudge match of today. I really can’t get behind the logic in this.

    Furthermore, I wouldn’t make a huge gap between Israel and its numerous scattered political supporters

    Well you should. You ask us to make a thousand and one distinctions among Muslims and Muslim countries.

    As I mentioned, your comments and the references that you provided have been the catalyst for a change in my thinking. I troll around here and try to harass the obvious anti-Semites and obnoxious racists because I think their agitation and propaganda is detrimental to the functioning of our liberal democracy. Going forward I am going to give the same consideration to obvious Muslim disparagement.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Talha
  215. @Cloak And Dagger

    Yep, some nasty stuff in their Talmud, but we could probably find some equally nasty stuff in the old testament (but not the New Testament, unless I am mistaken) …

    And (((who))) wrote the Old Testament?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  216. Durruti says:
    @Che Guava

    “I lost one comment when, it does appear, the site was being attacked.”

    Just in case.

    Have had 2 comments erased (censored?) is Unz, Geraldi, Staff watching?

    Also numerous other commenters are missing from other topics, (just check those with few or almost no comments – such as 24 ish). Either this website is under hacking attack, or many of us are being censored.

    AT LEAST THE STAFF, or Unz, might make a public statement that they are pursuing the matter (or not).

    The erased comments tend to be those most critical of the Zionist imperialist Nazis.

    I have been critical you, Ron Unz, and your staff. If you are innocent, and under attack, just say so.

    Durruti

  217. @Durruti

    Sorry guys but the site was down for over a day due to a server failure. We do not censor or remove comments unless they are either completely (!) obscene or threatening!

    • Replies: @Durruti
  218. geokat62 says:

    I troll around here and try to harass the obvious anti-Semites and obnoxious racists because I think their agitation and propaganda is detrimental to the functioning of our liberal democracy.

    Oh, I see. It is the geos, Ruriks, Arts, S2Cs, JSs and Woodchucks who are your primary focus because we represent a threat to… how did you put it? Oh, yeah, “the functioning of our liberal democracy.”

    ROFLMAO

    If you were truly concerned about “the functioning of our liberal democracy,” you would be doing exactly what we’re trying to do – i.e., shine a little light on the machinations of The Lobby which is doing its darnedest to crush the normal functioning of our liberal democracy.

    What a joker.

    • Replies: @iffen
  219. @MarkinPNW

    The protestant Puritans condemned Christmas as a Catholic accommodation of Satanic Pagan rituals, same thing with Easter and Halloween.

    That was definitely true of Christmas and Halloween … but Easter? I don’t think so. Easter is the whole reason why Christianity exists. Now, it is probably the case that the Puritans discouraged certain Easter customs (like painted eggs) that did not have any Biblical sanction; but that’s not the same thing as banning the holiday itself.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Alden
  220. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    I am going to take a page from your book, although my reading of the page will be a little different.

    I will no longer respond to certain commenters.

    Specifically, I will not respond to those commenters who do not understand that 2+2=4.

  221. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    You are talking about a long march through the institutions. Merci merci Gramsci. There’s a fight to be fought there, for sure. Or build alternative institutions with like-minded people.

    Personally, I wouldn’t fight it against the Holocaust specifically. That will eventually fall in place, if given proper context. But where is the political battlefront now? What ideas are the political elites pushing now, and to what ends? I’d say it is relativism:
    - multiculturalism (we don’t really know any culture anymore, but they’re all equally great)
    - gender ideology (we don’t know how to order a life, but hey it’s great)
    - I’d add transhumanism, than utopian siren call, the logical development of IQ worship. Enhanced men created by man, life as raw material.

    A new world order, with technology harnessed to serve a society of masters and subhumans. This is the new “narrative”, with language manipulation, doctrine, propaganda, legislation and institutions already set up. (Look at the multilateral venues, easier done with the Summits: Population and development, Gender equality and healthcare, etc)

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  222. dcouzin says:

    The USA is pandering to Israel, and Philip Giraldi wishes this to stop. A good logical tool is to emphasize the distinction between “anti-Israel” and “anti-Jew”. Giraldi uses the tool correctly until he reveals that he himself prone to conflating “Israeli interests” with “Jewish interests”. This occurs in the paragraph beginning with “And there’s bill HR 672 Combating European Anti-Semitism Act of 2017, which was passed unanimously by the House of Representatives…” and ending with “The bill was co-sponsored by Ileana Ros-Lehtinen from Florida and Nita Lowey of New York, both of whom are Jewish.” How is that last sentence more than irrelevant gossip? Why does Giraldi ruin his example of the unanimously passed bill with it?

    By the end of Giraldi’s article it is clear that he can’t stay within the boundaries of the article’s title. He slips into assailing the USA for “almost obsessively defer[ring]” to both “Israeli and Jewish interests”. Giraldi lacks the mental discipline to clearly distinguish pandering to a foreign state from favoritism toward a religious grouping within the USA. Both are separately un-American, but Giraldi’s conflation is also un-American. Worse, his ugly thinking is bad for BDS.

    • Replies: @Alden
  223. Rurik says:
    @Anon

    And Trump is the enemy of Jews from when exactly?

    for a full-throated support for Christmas from the White House bully pulpit, he is ruffling a lot of their feathers, to be sure

    just as his ‘America first’ mantra makes some of them glower with demonic bile

    but when it comes to Israel, Trump toes the line, and this is where it gets interesting

    (I suspect your query was simply more snark, but I’m going to explores the question for my own purpose ; )

    you see the Jewish people are not monolithic. They are a diverse tribe of competing world views. You have the Hollywood liberal types, and you have the Orthodox devout, and everything in between. But who runs the show? When push comes to shove in world Jewry, who at the end of the day is the king of the Jews?

    I suspect that most people have always figured the NYT is the voice of the Big Jew. And that it is from this mouthpiece that Jews are given their marching orders. But now with Trump, it doesn’t seem so clear.

    The NYT outed Weinstein. This is yuge! As long as I’ve been alive, the only Jews the NYT would toss under the bus were guys like Eliot Spitzer, to bring them into the fold if they wandered too far out. But a Hollywood serial predator, who’s a Jew’s Jew like Weinstein, just for ravaging a few shiksas? What is going on here?!

    So it appears to me that Trump simply understands the power structure of Judaism better than most, as indeed, a guy like that, having lived and worked in NYC as a real estate developer must, and with Jewish family.

    So..

    What seems to be going on, is that Trump has gone straight to the eye of Jewish power, and struck a deal of sorts. He’ll appoint an uber-Zionist as ambassador to Israel, appoint a rabid Christian Zionist as ambassador to the UN, and make other moves that mollify the militant arm of Jewish supremacism a la Alan Dershowitz and Bibi, and thereby get a pass for some of his other moves to mollify the deplorables. Like celebrating Christmas and talking about “America first’.

    It must be a very difficult juggling act, and I suspect that it could only be accomplished by a guy like Trump, with his savvy for how these things work.

    I sort of wonder..

    Trump to Rothschild – “I want to reduce the number of Muslim refugees and deport some members of MS13. What do you want in return?’

    ‘Make moving the ZUS embassy to Jerusalem a part of your platform, and start working to accomplish this goal’

    deal

    Trump: I want to investigate Pizzagate’

    Rothschild: ‘let me think about that’

    Trump to Rothschild – ‘I’m going to pull out of Syria and let Putin save Assad’s arse. What do you want?

    ‘fuck you goyim, this is war!’

    Tillerson: ‘Assad has to go’

    at least it sort of seems like this is sort of how it works.

    the pedophiles in Hollywood are simply given a playground as long as they don’t upset the greater agenda. Same with the swindlers on Wall Street and all the other ravages they’re perpetrating in every dank crevice of society.

    But the real power are the Orthodox rabbis and their patron saint Rothschild/the Fed. And it looks to me like Trump is simply negotiating his America first agenda with this lot, who are willing to grant the ZUS a small reprieve from the plunge into the abyss as long as Trump makes deals they like.

    Will Trump ever be able to wrest America free from Zio control?

    No. Not as long as the Fed prints the world’s reserve currency.

    But perhaps he can make enough deals that give enough of the most powerful Jews what they demand, and Trump can get some things he wants in return, like seeing Harvey Weinstein and all the Jewish pedophiles and serial predators in Hollywood, who have mocked and demonized Trump so brutally, get some comeuppance of their own.

    Perhaps he can save Syria, by saber rattling at Iran.

    And it isn’t just the Zionists who wield power. The America voter also has clout. Which is what makes this all really interesting. The Republican cucks get their shekels from hideous ghouls like Sheldon Adelson, but they eventually have to face the voters, who they’ve been betraying with every vote they make to please Sheldon, et al.

    Our job is to vote out Sheldon’s whores, and vote in their opponents. Paul Ryan must go. Mitch McConnell must go.

    Perhaps slowly, if we all do what we can, we can edge out the traitors in congress and replace them with America firsters who will end the wars and rein in the Fiend. It’s a long shot, but what other hope is there?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  224. @iffen

    I troll around here and try to harass the obvious anti-Semites and obnoxious racists because I think their agitation and propaganda is detrimental to the functioning of our liberal democracy.

    • Agree: Rurik
  225. Which Orthodox rabbis do you think exercise the disproportionate power you suggest and how do they do it? I ask because most American Jews are not Orthodox and rabbis don’t normally have large sums of money at their disposal for buying politicians. Nor do they have a Pope’s power to excommunicate if Jewish billionaires don’t toe the line.

    And are you using “Rothschild” metaphorically or do you have some real live Rothschilds in mind? If so, which?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Zumbuddi
    , @Rurik
  226. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    To whom are you talking?

    For the record, I agree Orthodox rabbis have minimal influence in the American Jewish community*, even less than priests on the American Catholic community.

    *As a whole. Obviously they influence certain sectors of it greatly– whether for better or worse I really couldn’t say.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @anon
  227. Rurik says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    I don’t think so. Easter is the whole reason why Christianity exists

    I would posit that Christmas is more fundamental that Easter

    God didn’t find out that the Christ was the Christ at the Resurrection, He knew when He conceived with Mary in the first place. Easter was secondary to Christmas, it seems to me.

    Christmas was the day He was born. The day we set our calendar from. The day all things were set in motion, including the crucifixion and the Resurrection.

    Christmas is the day that God was born. If the Puritans didn’t celebrate it, it was only because they considered the day too sacred to profane with earthy delights.

    I remember an episode of John Stewart as he was remarking about how Jews were trying to equate Christmas with Hanukkah, which is a minor Jewish holiday, and how the Jews had basically forbidden the majority population from celebrating the birth of their very God – who had created the universe and everything in it, including us.

    I remember being taken aback that it was a Jew who could appreciate the profound weight of denying Christians the opportunity to celebrate the birth of their God. Because doing so offended a few minorities.

    It was a mixture of admiration for Stewart for pointing out this egregious outrage, and contempt for the Christians for allowing the minorities to effectively ban a celebration of the most holy and sacred day of their spiritual and mortal existence. And why did they allow the Jews to ban Christmas? Because they didn’t want to offend them.

    Sometimes I think I annoy some readers by calling Americans – cud chewers, and Christians as spineless spreaders of the other cheek.

    But just look at how Christians allow the holiest day in their lives, the most sacred day in their existence and their historical narrative, the day their God was born and came to them to give them truth and eternal life…

    now is to be called a ‘winter holiday’

    Christians send out ‘holiday cards’, and wish each other on the streets a ‘happy holiday season’

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Seamus Padraig
  228. @geokat62

    Did you read them? Have you no sceptical instinct? Did you notice for example the word “Israeli”?. Mind you I don’t think he made them up. He wouldn’t even have the imagination and skill of the authors of the Protocols…

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Rurik
    , @geokat62
  229. @Seamus Padraig

    And who adopted nearly all the OT as part of the Christian Bible from the earliest years of ecclesiastical writing?

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  230. @Rurik

    See my Comment #231 as at present numbered.

  231. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Did you notice for example the word “Israeli”?

    I noticed it, exactly once. A less skeptical mind or at least a mind skeptical of different things might consider it was probably a typo for “Israelite”, mentioned twice.

    • Replies: @Anon
  232. Zumbuddi says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Re the money — Leverage + constant soliciting — small amounts. aggregated.

    + using established institutions — like Fordham, SMU, other formerly iconic denominational institutions become platforms for this ethnic elite.

    Extorting funds by the billions from US, Germany, Sweden — Barbara Spectre blackmailed Sweden out of $4 million, used to diversify Swedish culture — see Red Ice, Ingrid somebody

  233. Rurik says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Which Orthodox rabbis do you think exercise the disproportionate power you suggest and how do they do it?

    the Orthodox rabbis in the Israeli Knesset

    their power isn’t financial, it’s spiritual. They are the spiritual leaders of the Jewish people. They’re the ones who demand that the ZUS move its embassy to Jerusalem. And the Jewish people fall in line. They pour over the Talmud and Torah and Noahide laws to glimmer the ancient, stone age truths, written by tribal, superstitious ignoramuses whose understanding of God was basically the same truths all tribal people followed: ‘kill your territorial competitors because you are the chosen people’. This was the religion of all tribal peoples from the American Amerindians to the Amazon tribes today. The Jews simply codified it all into written form, and then copied some other monotheistic religion, and ‘poof’, you have a nice stone age spirituality.

    The tragedy is that in the 21st century, with everything we know technologically, we’re still acting like God wants us to kill the neighboring tribe as if we’re still baboons worshiping a baboon god.

    Nor do they have a Pope’s power to excommunicate if Jewish billionaires don’t toe the line.

    something tells me Weinstein has been excommunicated. In a way, you might call the NYT the Jewish version of a Pope.

    live Rothschilds in mind? If so, which?

    from what I understand, a ‘Russian’ oligarch was angry that some news organization said the oligarchs were Rothschild (Jacob, et al – the dynasty) agents. The oligarchs sued in court, and the court found for the defendant, as it became obvious that the oligarchs were indeed Rothschild agents.

    If there is one king of the Jew, it is Jacob, but it doesn’t work that way. He has to make nice with the rabbis in the Knesset too. There is a lot of wrangling going on. Just look at how Bibi has his troubles with the law. He must have stepped on some toes, you see?

    And Trump is trying to navigate this power structure too. It’s all very intriguing with tones of intrigue

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  234. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    I would posit that Christmas is more fundamental that Easter

    You would, but then you’re not a Christian. Other commenters will probably want to go into more detail on this, but Easter is the Christian holiday par excellence and always has been, Christmas being the runner-up (and not celebrated during the first centuries anyway). The fact of God’s victory over Death, the literal fulfillment of his promise of everlasting life, the founding of the Church, etc. etc. all relate to Easter or the Easter season.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Anon
    , @NoseytheDuke
  235. Zumbuddi says:

    O/T
    Efficiency of NYC 1st responders very impressive.
    Not a drop of blood to be seen.
    Nowhere.
    The Asian guy on gurney being wheeled into ambulance looked like he’d just won dinner for 2 at Chris Ruth.

    And a pellet gun?

    A Home Depot truck?

    Trump team staged this one.

    The scam is exceeding shelf life.

  236. @Wizard of Oz

    And who adopted nearly all the OT as part of the Christian Bible from the earliest years of ecclesiastical writing?

    Fools?

    • LOL: Rurik
  237. Rurik says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    wouldn’t even have the imagination and skill of the authors of the Protocols…

    or the Satanic (there is no other word) hatred of Gentiles

    who ever did write them, certainly understood the tribe, eh?

  238. @Anon

    To Rurik as I tried to make clear when my “@ Rurik” didn’t appear.

  239. Corvinus says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Languages did not suddenly appear all at once, the way the biblical authors imagined and attempt to explain with this silly story. Rather, languages evolve from each other over long periods of time, with accents –> dialects –> entirely new tongues. We can trace this evolution backwards to see how many languages diversified from each other in a given period of time. The linguistic evidence offers ZERO support for the idea that humanity was ever united by a single tongue, nor that varying languages appeared magically at once.

    Galatians 3:28 –> There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  240. Talha says:
    @iffen

    Hey iffen,

    much importance on such

    That is good, but the problem is the man has bragged about appearing on Fox & Friends, talking about the ME. What is a man with such blatantly extremist views (Israel should annex Saudi as part of ancient Israel) doing on any of the major networks? Furthermore, how many churches does this guy infect with his views (which are in complete contradiction to the authorities in his own tradition) that Muslims worship Satan?

    You are going back hundreds of years

    You missed my point. I brought this up as a simple case study – I would love to never have to talk about the Bani Qurayza incident ever again. It’s not exactly the high point of the Seerah – sometimes you gotta deal with business and it is grim – it’s a bit like why you don’t see many Christians bring up Revelations 19 much – robe dipped in blood, sharp sword coming from the mouth, iron scepter, etc.

    I’m saying, men like Mr. Kister are the ones that revive these things and publish papers on them and completely change the story around so it looks like a bunch of innocent Jews got slaughtered for no reason. That way the narrative can simply just be grafted onto the Israel-Palestine conflict; “You see, they’ve always been after us innocent Jews – we dindu nuffin’!”

    Well you should.

    OK – you got me there. I admit, the “supporters” of Israel vary quite a bit from those like Avi Lipkin and the Gellers and Spencers of the world to those who support it out of a sense of connection through their faith or identity but don’t agree with much of its policies – and even among these there are very fierce critics, soldiers that refuse to serve, etc. still want a homeland for the Jews but don’t want to slaughter innocents or break a ton of international laws to have it.

    I’m really talking about the Israeli-firsters here. They don’t care what gets in the way, what countries need to be smashed, what US policies need to be hi-jacked, what lies need to be made up about a religion, what historical distortions need to be aired, even the identity of Palestinians need to be denied.

    Going forward I am going to give the same consideration to obvious Muslim disparagement.

    OK – but don’t troll too hard – it can backfire. You remember “Rehmat”?

    Peace.

    Note: Speaking of “obvious disparagement” – I recently came across some pastor named Usama Dakdok. Apparently an Egyptian guy who goes around speaking about Islam. Seems like he is telling people that once Muslims take over, we will kill your children for not eating halal food – I wish I was kidding about this (at what point will they pull out all stops and just shift into; “they will drink your children’s blood”?):

    Also, we are collecting money to fight AIDS and illiteracy, but actually use it for jihad against (can you guess?) – ISRAEL!!!

    And apparently, we all just want to climb in through your windows and snatch e’rybody up in this – so hide your kids, hide your wife and hide your husbands ’cause we’re raping e’rybody out there:

    Here he is with his friends…guess who?

    Every. Single. Time.

    Anyway, I love his guilt trip at the end “You just stay ignorant, don’t bother today, don’t go by my table, and spend 20 dollars to read the Qur’an and learn about Islam. Just watch football next Sunday.” So those who feel sufficiently guilty and want to pony up their money for his snake oil – I mean accurate translation of Qur’an (as you can tell from the video, his command of the English language is magnificently Shakespearean) – here is a link:

    https://www.amazon.com/Generous-Accurate-English-Translation-Holiest/dp/098241370X

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @iffen
  241. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews. A Jew need not pay a Gentile (“Cuthean”) the wages owed him for work

    Nevertheless the translation is idiosyncratic, and in this case some sort of section title has gotten mixed in with the quote (which quotes seem often to be as much summaries as anything else).

    Here is the source from tractate Sanhedrin, folio 57a, tr. Freedman, edited by Rabbi I. Epstein (http://www.halakhah.com/sanhedrin/index.html)

    But R. Aha, the son of R. Ika answered; It applies to the withholding of a labourer’s wage.n44 One Cuthean from another, or a Cuthean from an Israelite is forbidden, but an Israelite from a Cuthean is permitted.n45

    You will excuse me for not looking up the rest as reading through Talmud is a pain, this statement coming from someone who has read papers written by Chinese with the barest grasp of English. Probably there are exaggerations, etc. in the quoted list and at least one other I couldn’t find the original for at all– which may or may not mean it isn’t there.

  242. RobinG says:
    @Durruti

    “Updated: Server Crash”

    Sheesh, Durruti, you’ve been around UR long enough to know that there are ANNOUNCEMENTS on the home page. (Does anarchism = tunnel vision?)

  243. Skeptikal says:
    @whyamihere

    “Can someone please explain to me (with limited snark, if possible) why you side with Hamas and Hezbollah over Israel?”

    I side with Americans and the United States of America over Israel.

  244. Z-man says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    end up working in support of “the Borg” if not immediately for Borgist employers, not by choice but by seduction.

    The first item on our agenda, Z-man, will have to be to reformat the cognitive map of our mind-benumbed thirty-something children and grand children.

    Yep I do as much as I can, hope to do more in the future.
    Free Palestine!!
    Free America from the hold of the Cabal.

    • Agree: SolontoCroesus
  245. @Rurik

    Which and how many of the 120 members of the Knesset are rabbis and how do you think they can influence other members without plausibly threatening hell in an afterlife (you missed my point about exommunication).

    As to the litigation that you “understand” involved a findng that someone was a Rotschild agent, it sounds like BS to me. Care to provide a link?

    Frankly your rabbiting on about Rothschilds with particular reference to the 81 year old Jacob sounds like loose pub talk. Jacob lost control of N.M.Rothschild in 1980 and resigned! BTW his mother was only a convert to Judaism and his wife and mother of his children apparently is not even a convert.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  246. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Why is it Jews went ape-shit when Germans sought to separate their form of Christianity from Hebrew scriptures?

    https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/aryan-jesus-susannah-heschel/1101640735?ean=9780691125312

    The Aryan Jesus: Christian Theologians and the Bible in Nazi Germany
    by Susannah Heschel

    Jews are orgasmic to keep Christians pinned to Hebrew mythology. Jews will throw Augustine in your face — Aug decided that Hebrew scriptures were basis for the Life and Morals of Jesus.

    Jews also like to quote an Augustinian statement/modus vivendi that the sometimes-useful E Michael Jones relies upon: some utterance to the effect that Jews should not be harmed, but neither should Jews attempt to destroy Christian culture.
    Neither has lived up to their side of the bargain, but today, I’d say Jews have the upper hand. They are assisted in that, uh, superiority by the committed idiocy of ‘Christians’ — Why in the world are those who see in Jesus the model for an exemplary moral life, so eager to claim “Abrahamic” roots?

    Do they frickin’ know what Abraham stood for?

    Here’s a clue, h/t Maimonides:

    Maimonides Mishnah Torah Laws of Idolatry 1:3
    3) Once Abraham was weaned, he, as a child, began contemplating and thinking day and night, and wondered how a sphere could follow a fixed path without being directed. If so, who directed it? Surely it would be impossible for it to rotate on its own! Abraham did not have a mentor, but was immersed amongst the stupid idolaters of Ur Casdim, where everyone, including his mother and father, served idols, as did he.
    In his heart, however, he continued to contemplate, until he realized the way of truth and understood the ways of righteousness from nature, and knew that there is a God who directs the spheres, created the world, and besides whom there is none other. He also knew that the whole world was erring, . . .
    Once he achieved this, he began to reason with the inhabitants of Ur Casdim and to argue with them, saying that by serving idols they were not following the way of truth. He broke their images, and began to proclaim that it is not fitting to serve anyone other than God [of his perception -ed], . . . . Abraham also proclaimed that it was fitting to break and destroy all the figures, so that nobody will err on account of them, like those who imagined that there is no God except for their idols did.

    http://learn.conservativeyeshiva.org/introduction-to-rabbinic-midrash-1-lesson-1-avraham-and-the-idol-shop/

    One example of the delight taken in smashing the idols of others is the way Jews — and Christian wagged-tails– savage German myths — (as well as Russian folk tales that played a major role in the writings of the greats of Russian literature).
    Authentic scholars of mythology respect the myths of other peoples, and Hebrew scripture is, in reality, a mythology not unlike the myths of Asatro http://englishnews.org/news-central/asatro-the-purity-and-beauty-of-the-northern-germanic-soul.html
    Read carefully — you will find the elements of Wagner’s operas

    or the Lars and Penates of the Roman peoples.

    Cyrus managed to run an empire that respected other people’s gods and myths. He was Zoroastrian.

    Personally, I have no use for Augustine (nor for Abraham/Abrahamics).. Augustine wrote some impressive stuff, but his life was ugly; he was a crass opportunist — switching from master of Greek/Roman rhetoric to Christianie stuff when it became fashionable, and who abandoned his own son and the (unwed) mother of that child, whom Augie never addressed by name. That sucks.

    Zoroaster — don’t know much about his personal life, but to the extent I understand Zoroastrianism, he taught that each persona is answerable for his/her own moral acts, which should constantly be considered from their germ in thought, to the expression in word, to their activation in deeds. A constant process of self-awareness and self-correction/improvement.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  247. Rurik says:
    @Anon

    Easter is the Christian holiday par excellence and always has been, Christmas being the runner-up

    I was raised Christian, and still hold the words of Jesus, as in ‘blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God’, to be as close to divine truths as anything else I’ve ever read or heard.

    And yes, we always celebrated Easter, but as far as a day of import, Easter never came close to Christmas, which was the most celebrated day of the year bar none. Indeed, it was a day considered so important, that for many people, the whole year was devoted to this day.

    Easter was more dour, and solemn. Important, but not anywhere close to Christmas. Even Christmas Eve was more important than Easter in my childhood, very Christian home.

    but then it should be said that the whole blending of Paganism and the Yule with Charlemagne’s decision to impose Christianity upon his subjects, was a concoction of many religious tenets from Zoroastrianism to European Paganism. The Celtic cross for instance is a blending of the Pagan worship of the sun and moon with the Christian cross. They had to include the orb or the Celts simply would not bow to it.

    The Christmas celebration is basically a celebration of the Pagan Solstice. When winter was at its zenith and spring was now on the way.

    But that’s all academic. The point is that Christmas for modern Christians is the most important day of the year and has been for centuries. It was the Christmas sprit that manifested in the World War I trenches of Europe, and these warriors laid down their arms and sang songs together.

    How many books did Dickens write about keeping the spirit of Easter?

    There’s just no comparison. Christmas is the most holy day of Christians, and the most sacred and most celebrated, bar nothing even close. And it’s being systematically banned from Christians celebrating it because their ((overlords)) consider it improper for the goyim cattle to presume to have a religious festival of their own.

    It is verboten.

    It is written.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @ChuckOrloski
  248. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    Not only did the puritans ban Christmas, but they forbade eating hot food on December 25 for fear people would have a festive dinner. The Puritan preachers actually had spies roaming the villages smelling out roasting meat and other food smells. When December 25 fell on a Sunday, the puritans had the normal church services the day before or after so much did they hate the very idea of christmas
    Making December 25 an official holiday was done state by state. Some of the New England states didn’t make December 25 a legal holiday until the 1890s.

    The early puritans such as Knox, Calvin, Fox and others were anti Christianity. They proclaimed ” there is but one God, the God of Israel” That God is the Christian God the Father or the Jewish Jehovah.
    The essence of Christianity is that Jesus is also God. The puritans and their descendants the Congregationalists and Unitarians often proclaimed that Jesus is not God

    Because they did not recognize Jesus as God and proclaimed the only God is the God of Israel, therefore, the puritans were not Christians.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @RudyM
  249. Alden says:
    @whyamihere

    I have read the Hebrew part of the bible. It’s basically kill every body and group that’s not Jewish.

    Whoever you are, you made a major slip when you called it the Old Testament. Jews never call that part of the bible the Old Testament. Are you really a Jew?

  250. geokat62 says:

    Specifically, I will not respond to those commenters who do not understand that 2+2=4.

    I’d rather be someone who doesn’t understand that 2+2=4 than be someone’s tool who is prepared to believe their lies that 2+2=5.

  251. geokat62 says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Did you read them? Have you no sceptical instinct?

    Hey, Wiz. I didn’t realize you were one of our resident experts on the Talmud. That being the case, can you produce evidence that these statements are indeed fallacious?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  252. Skeptikal says:
    @geokat62

    ““We stand firmly against discrimination in any form and we wholly support our friends in Israel,” said Walker, adding “I look forward to leading a trade delegation to Israel to foster new trade partnerships between Wisconsin and Israeli businesses.” ”

    Anyone else notice the parallel here between Zionist financial meddling and “separate peace” deal making in Catalonia and in Wisconsin? Israelis are exploiting economic challenges in the USA to advance their divide-and-conquer agenda.

    Every state legislator who has sponsored these bills must be identified and “outed.” So that an aroused citizenry can counterattack these traitors in their midst.

  253. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    How many books did Dickens write about keeping the spirit of Easter?

    Dickens wasn’t much of a Christian either.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  254. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Talha

    Talha,

    Not really related to the current topic, but I have to say– reading the Talmud has given me a new appreciation of the clarity and eloquence of the Koran and hadith. They may not be the Bible, but thank Heaven they’re not Talmud either.

    Here is an annotated version of Revelations 19: http://haydock1859.tripod.com/id305.html .

    Not too much clarity there, I must say, but plenty of eloquence.

    • Replies: @Talha
  255. Rurik says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    how many of the 120 members of the Knesset are rabbis and how do you think they can influence other members without plausibly threatening hell in an afterlife (you missed my point about exommunication).

    here’s a salient news story from a mainstream (if crass) website

    http://www.newsweek.com/tel-aviv-diary-ultra-orthodox-turn-heat-629012

    that someone was a Rotschild agent, it sounds like BS to me.

    start here. If you need more, I’ll see what I can do. (I didn’t read this link, I just found it in a about 2 seconds and it looks like it spells it out nicely.

    http://balder.org/judea/Mikhail-Khodorkovsky-Soros-Rothschild-Abramovich-Oligarchs-Yukos-Russia-Jews.php

    If it’s not all there, like the trial, I can look further for you.

    sounds like loose pub talk. Jacob lost control of N.M.Rothschild in 1980

    I don’t know the details. I’m not a fanatical sleuth of all things Rothschild, but I know of the family and their banking history going especially back to the Napoleonic wars. Most alarming is their control of the planet’s central banking operations (the Fed, ECB, et al). It is those banking operations that have driven all major wars since Mayer Amschel (your hero no doubt) consolidated his nefarious banking empire.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  256. @John Jeremiah Smith

    It does suggest the interesting question of how the Early Fathers reconciled the fact that Jesus’s divine father was shown as such an unpleasant character in the Hebrrw scriptures. No doubt it is well covered somewhere.

  257. JSS says: • Website

    Excellent analysis by Phil Giraldi, with one major exception: he should NOT confuse “Jewish” lobbying with Zionist lobbying. All Jews are NOT Zionists, and many Jews are horrified by Israel’s treatment of Palestinians, the Territories, and Arab Israelis. Mr. Giraldi’s blaming “Jews” and Zionists confuses the matter mightily as well as encouraging real resentment against “Jews,” meaning all Jews. This is simply sloppy and misleading, and does contribute to real anti-Semitism, not the trumped up kind that Netanyahu is pushing (which is confusing enough, and an affront to free speech everywhere).

    Jews such as Norman Finkelstein, Noam Chomsky, and Amy Goodman, as well as Amira Haas in Israel, have taken serious risks to be extremely critical of Israeli policies. We have a moral/ethical tradition in Judaism, which many Jews still take quite seriously. Mr. Giraldi trashes them (us) along with the Zionists when he callously uses the term “Jews” in his critiques.

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
  258. @geokat62

    Nah. I’ll wait fpr you to come back and thank me for helping to improve your nose for fraud.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  259. Rurik says:
    @Alden

    puritans were not Christians.

    yes they were

    they simply believed in a literal translation of the Bible, which is why they’re call Puritans, iow pure

    if it wasn’t in the Bible, then they rejected it

    but they certainly were Christians who believe Jesus was Lord

    but more to the point, what does any of this have to do with Puritans?!

    all I said was that the war on Christmas today is being waged by Jews and not by WASPs (which is obvious!)

    and then all this noise and obfuscation about ‘Puritans’ who’ve been gone now for hundreds of years.

    • Replies: @Alden
  260. iffen says:
    @Talha

    What is a man with such blatantly extremist views

    Good question. Why does he get on and not P. Giraldi or David Irving types?

    I’m saying, men like Mr. Kister

    There are extremists on each side.
    Some on your side are heads of state. 

    I’m really talking about the Israeli-firsters here.

    Again, there are these types on both sides.

    OK – but don’t troll too hard – it can backfire. You remember “Rehmat”?

    Although I now recognize the equivalency of anti-Semitism, obnoxious and gratuitous expressions of racism directed toward American blacks and “Islamophobia,” vis-à-vis my concerns about our political processes, I don’t feel any need to troll here on behalf of Muslim issues. I will try to sort through the issue of why I feel this way; hopefully I will have the neuron strength to be able to power through the question.

    Every. Single. Time.

    Problematic as to joining the company of others who favor this expression.

    • Replies: @Talha
  261. Durruti says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Sorry Philip Giraldi,

    You do not answer my question. ???

    Where are all the missing comments? Such as mine? Such as those from the numerous other complaints? I quoted one complaint from Che Guava. There are many other MISSING comments.

    Where are all the missing comments? Several of your featured articles list only 24 follow up comments; they had many more comments BEFORE the “server failure.” There are many missing comments. Where are they?

    Have you a reasonable explanation for the missing comments? Or do you serve up a bureaucratic “We do not censor or remove comments unless they are either completely (!) obscene or threatening!” smokescreen.

    Just explain the missing comments. Or deny them. Just say we are crazy. Or Anarchists (whoops!).

    At least you attempted an answer.

    Durruti

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @RobinG
    , @RudyM
  262. @SolontoCroesus

    Zoroaster — don’t know much about his personal life, but to the extent I understand Zoroastrianism, he taught that each persona is answerable for his/her own moral acts, which should constantly be considered from their germ in thought, to the expression in word, to their activation in deeds. A constant process of self-awareness and self-correction/improvement.

    No offense intended, but I dispensed with digressions into theological origins decades long gone; however, perhaps others might benefit.

    I am inclined to give some credence to the theory that the composite author/s who provide the “New Testament” took some significant philosophy from Zoroaster. Some people who believe Yeshua to have been a real person also theorize that he spent some years on the road, particularly traveling to Persia, perhaps Greece.

    Zoroastrianism was an older, more developed religion than the Hebraic (Judaism having much evidence in its literature of production at the hands of a primitive nomadic herding people.)

    IMO, the principle of reciprocity, found in most eastern religions, was developed into Xtianity by the Jesus Committee, i.e. the balance and flow of human actions in subjectively “good” and “bad” directions, Jesus asserted that it was better as a completely externalized mode of human relationship. It becomes active as DO until others, versus passive “AS you give so shall you receive”.

    A fine point, I suppose. Too bad Xtianity couldn’t throw-off the barbarism of the Hebrew religion altogether.

  263. Alden says:
    @anarchyst

    I’ve read the actual Talmud, not excerpts. And you anarchyst are absolutely right.

  264. geokat62 says:

    Maybe it’s an East-West thing?

    Western Christianity
    The Easter festival is kept in many different ways among Western Christians. The traditional, liturgical observation of Easter, as practised among Roman Catholics, Lutherans, and some Anglicans begins on the night of Holy Saturday with the Easter Vigil. This, the most important liturgy of the year, begins in total darkness with the blessing of the Easter fire, the lighting of the large Paschal candle (symbolic of the Risen Christ) and the chanting of the Exultet or Easter Proclamation attributed to Saint Ambrose of Milan…

    Eastern Christianity
    Easter is the fundamental and most important festival of the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox Churches:

    This is the Expected and Holy Day,
    the One among the Sabbaths,
    the Sovereign and Lady of days,
    Feast of feasts, Celebration of celebrations,
    on which we praise Christ for all eternity!

    Every other religious festival in their calendar, including Christmas, is secondary in importance to the celebration of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. This is reflected in rich Paschal customs in the cultures of countries that have traditionally had an Orthodox Christian majority. Eastern Catholics have similar emphasis in their calendars, and many of their liturgical customs are very similar.

    This is not to say that Christmas and other elements of the Christian liturgical calendar are ignored. Instead, these events are all seen as necessary but preliminary to, and illuminated by, the full climax of the Resurrection, in which all that has come before reaches fulfillment and fruition. They shine only in the light of the Resurrection. Easter is the primary act that fulfills the purpose of Christ’s ministry on earth—to defeat death by dying and to purify and exalt humanity by voluntarily assuming and overcoming human frailty. This is succinctly summarized by the Paschal troparion, sung repeatedly for forty days, through the Apodosis of Easter, which is the day before Ascension:

    Χριστὸς ἀνέστη ἐκ νεκρῶν,
    θανάτῳ θάνατον πατήσας,
    καὶ τοῖς ἐν τοῖς μνήμασι
    ζωὴν χαρισάμενος.

    Christ is risen from the dead,
    Trampling down death by death,
    And upon those in the tombs
    Bestowing life!

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter

    • Replies: @Anon
  265. Rurik says:
    @Anon

    Dickens wasn’t much of a Christian either.

    perhaps not ‘Anon’

    but he did more for the Christmas spirit than ten thousand evangelical Christian ministers exhorting their flocks to go kill and die for Israel, now didn’t he? As they inform their congregation that the new ‘winter celebrations’ will take place in the rectory.

    what’s your point?

    and as long as Christians soil their knickers every time someone says they’re offended, the craven, ‘spread the other cheek’, kneejerk obeisance won’t stop with Christmas celebrations

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Z-man
  266. L.K says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    SC to @AmericaFirstNow’s statement “Because Hezbollah and Hamas are Israel’s problems! Not America’s!’

    SC:

    Disagree.

    It IS America’s problem because we made it our problem.

    Americans subsidize the oppression of Palestinians by Israel.

    Hamas and Hezbollah resist Israeli oppression.

    Well said, thank you.

  267. Alden says:
    @RadicalCenter

    The puritians denied loudly and long that Jesus was, is not God. That Jesus is God equally God with God the father/Jehovah is the essence of christianity.

    The puritans paid no attention to the Christian part of the bible. They just wallowed in and got off on the sex and violence in the Jewish part of the bible. I don’t believe any of it. I’m an objective observer of religion.

    The puritans were devout all right. But they weren’t devour Christians. They were Old Testament devotees.

    I doubt Catholics pay much attention to the Pope. The latest one is about 80. He will be gone in 5 to 10 years and there will be another. If Catholics paid attention to the Pope the convents, monasteries and clergy seminaries would be full. Catholics would have 8 kids per family. Catholic churches would be full to bursting on Sunday and other religious days.

    The Catholic church like many other christian churches is being abandoned by its people. I doubt that many Catholics even know the name of the current Pope or much about him.

  268. chris says:
    @Old Jew

    You’re just an Old Jerk.

    • Replies: @Old Jew
  269. @Rurik

    Christmas is the day that God was born. If the Puritans didn’t celebrate it, it was only because they considered the day too sacred to profane with earthy delights.

    In reality, the Puritans just didn’t know when Christmas should be celebrated, because the Bible never gives a date for it. The reason late December was ultimately chosen is because it had originally been an old Roman (pagan) holiday, the Fesitival of the Janus God. The winter solstice (Dec. 21/22) was also later chosen by the Romans for the holy day of Sol Invictus, a sun-worshiping religion. The Puritans knew this, so they declined to celebrate the holiday.

    • Replies: @Anon
  270. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    “The possessions of the goyim are like an ownerless desert, and everybody (every Jew) who seizes it, has acquired it” – Talmud IV / 3 / 54b
    This is what the murderous Golda Meir used for her claim “land without people…” These are the horrible, subhuman foundations for the modern state of Israel. Truth is coming out, and what an ugly truth it is.
    German have developed their Nazism, whereas the German Jews have developed their Zionism, the ideological twin of Nazism but with the deeper roots

  271. @Rurik

    Brother Rurik,

    I respect your worldview.

    Wise Jewish merchants pander to Christmas sentiments and Americans per capita last year spent > $900 during the holiday meant to honor the birth of The Christ.

    Also, I request that you ponder the linked You Tube video below which focuses upon philosopher Friedrych Neitzsche and his elite theory on practical exploitation of a CHRISTIANITY that practices weak stuff, for example, love of neighbor & enemy, forgiveness, mercy, Et Al, the Beatitude summary.

    Unfortunately, & I write as Byzantine Catholic, when Pope Francis visited D.C. last year, he did not publically tackle the immoral and unnecessary ZUSA warmongering. He did not set a meeting with the Chicago-based peace activist, Kathy Kelly.

    (Zigh) The time honored practice of traditional Christian virtues pander to the crooked Jewish Lobby’s political advance and staying power????

    Thanks, Brother Rurik.

  272. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    but he did more for the Christmas spirit than ten thousand evangelical Christian ministers exhorting their flocks to go kill and die for Israel, now didn’t he?

    False dichotomy. Anyway, you used him to support a point about the Christian religion, not any kind of “spirit”. About this he is not a competent authority.

    I think you would be more successful in your commenting endeavors if you limited yourself to the points your correspondents make, rather than irrelevancies you think they support. Feel free to adopt this method or not, as suits you– it is only intended as friendly advice.

  273. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    The University of Wisconsin at Madison wants to pull down a statute of Abraham Lincoln because
    “Lincoln owned slaves”

    Madison has been a NYC Jew commie infested university since the 195os.

  274. Alden says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    Thanks for responding to radical center. The fact that the puritans banned Christmas is even in 5th grade social studies books. It’s common knowledge. I can’t understand why radical center never heard about it.

  275. geokat62 says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Nah. I’ll wait…

    Thought so.

  276. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @geokat62

    Good point. The West does give more importance to Christmas. Nevertheless Easter is the linchpin of the ecclesiastical year there as well. See the Catholic Encyclopedia, for instance: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05224d.htm .

    Easter is the principal feast of the ecclesiastical year. Leo I (Sermo xlvii in Exodum) calls it the greatest feast (festum festorum), and says that Christmas is celebrated only in preparation for Easter. It is the centre of the greater part of the ecclesiastical year. The order of Sundays from Septuagesima to the last Sunday after Pentecost, the feast of the Ascension, Pentecost, Corpus Christi, and all other movable feasts, from that of the Prayer of Jesus in the Garden (Tuesday after Septuagesima) to the feast of the Sacred Heart (Friday after the octave of Corpus Christi), depend upon the Easter date.

    And your source also calls Easter the most important liturgy of the year among Catholics, Lutherans, and Anglicans.

    • Replies: @Talha
  277. Alden says:
    @Sean

    American Jews would never go to Israel where Horrors!!!!! Their sons might be drafted. But they will support Israel forever and ever, It’s interesting that about one million Israeli Jews currently live in the United States. That’s about 1/4 of the Jewish population of Israel.

    It’s more like the Israeli jews want to come to the United States for various reasons.

  278. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Durruti

    Where are all the missing comments? Such as mine? Such as those from the numerous other complaints? I quoted one complaint from Che Guava. There are many other MISSING comments.

    Read Ron’s “Announcements”.

    If you think he’s lying, feel free to start your own webzine.

  279. Z-man says:
    @Rurik

    but he (Dickens) did more for the Christmas spirit than ten thousand evangelical Christian ministers exhorting their flocks to go kill and die for Israel, now didn’t he? As they inform their congregation that the new ‘winter celebrations’ will take place in the rectory.

    Priceless. Bears repeating.

    • Replies: @Anon
  280. RobinG says:
    @Durruti

    Are all anarchists this blockheaded?

    Read Ron’s comments.

    http://www.unz.com/announcement/server-crash/

  281. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @jane claire

    You are strenuously straying away from the main point: “The PLO was an organization set up by people who were being slaughtered, genocided, and driven from their ancient lands, and for whom no one seemed to give a damn. So they did what they could to protect themselves and their families from Jewish supremacist terrorists and butchers. It had nothing to do with left vs. right, and everything to do with the netherworld depths of human treachery, hatred, murder, theft, and just about everything else which festers in the black abyss of human depravity.”
    What is leftist about human dignity?

  282. Talha says:
    @Anon

    plenty of eloquence

    Agreed – Revelations is an interesting chapter – the Son of Mary (pbuh) returns and takes care of business; and grim work it is – armies of angels in tow, corpses being feasted on by birds, etc. We have a slightly different version of events, but – in essence – his Madinah stage begins. In certain reports, he descends wearing a set of armor – fairly magnificent the whole scene:
    “And the armies which are in heaven followed him on white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.”

    Wow! And I believe this verse was the inspiration for the Battle Hymn of the Republic:
    “…and he treadeth the wine-press of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty”

    they’re not Talmud either

    From my understanding, the Talmud is really commentary on the source text; thus it is juristic banter between rabbis regarding the verses and how to interpret them. I don’t expect much from it; most of our works of exegesis is fairly dry actually – some scholars were very eloquent in their writings, but a lot of their commentary reads like you would expect a legal compendium to.

    eloquence of the Koran and hadith

    Since we’ve already gone off topic – I know most of what’s discussed about Islam on these forums is mostly jurisprudence and politics (and all of this is understandable due to the nature of the discussion) so the content of the Madinan chapters gets the most attention. But it was the eloquence and message of the initial short poetic chapters of the Makkan period which really shook up the foundations of the pagan Qurayshi tribal order – the English simply cannot convey what the Arabic does:

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  283. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Z-man

    evangelical Christian ministers exhorting their flocks

    Hey iffen,

    Your “peeps” have been challenged! Will you rise to the occasion?

  284. Alden says:
    @jane claire

    Who cares what the Pope does? You seem to be the only person in America who keeps tabs on what he does. So the latest one proclaims that Europe must take in muslims.

    Isn’t that what the European countries, especially the historically protestant ones like Britain, Germany, Sweden, Netherlands etc been doing since 1970? The British were taking in Muslims, Hindus etc before this Pope was even born. The officially atheist secularist nation of France built mosques in the 1920s to accommodate their Algerian muslims.

    2017 isn’t 800 0r 1200 or medieval times when Popes did have real power, such as calling the crusades or organizing the battle of Lepanto which kept Europe from being just another Islamic garbage dump.

    Religion is just not that important to Whites of European descent. It’s even less important to the latin American peoples except for those who discovered fundamentalist protestantism.

    The article is about Jewish and Israeli control of American politicians, not some clergy doings in Rome.

    Ever heard of commenting about the article instead of your pet peeves?

  285. Talha says:
    @Anon

    The West does give more importance to Christmas.

    And will continue to do so as it becomes progressively secular. It is a nice end-of-the year booster shot to corporate earnings. I had a friend growing up whose family was atheist, but they celebrated every aspect of Christmas in its forms; tree, presents, etc.

    Nintendo corporation certainly didn’t mind their business.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Anon
  286. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    But these Rabbis have a lot of influence on the President and the Congress.

  287. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    Jane Claire is the latest name of Betty and attilathehen. She or he needs to start his or her own blog about Pope what’s his name.

  288. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    Therefore, the latest war on Christmas dates from the 2,000 year old Talmud.

  289. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @jane claire

    Al Qaida and the Iraqi Communist Party… Is this a new talking point for Israel-firsters? To tell you truth, this is not a smart move. It has brought to mind the names of Wolfowitz, Feith (the “f–king idiot”), the ever-treasonous Kristol (these three parasites, and many other ziocons, were the main pushers for the illegal Iraq war) and the names of Halevy (the former head of Mossad) and Moshe Ya’alon (the former Defense Minister of Israel) who both loudly expressed their preference for Al Qaida (ISIS) to liberation of a sovereign state of Syria.
    And who has created Al Qaida (ISIS)? – the US/Israeli policies.

  290. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    Rurik

    Anon, I Seamus and others wrote about the puritans banning of Christmas 400 years ago and the fact that observing Christmas was illegal in the New England puritan states. We wrote nothing about WASPS trying to ban Christmas today. The puritan John Knox followers the Prespeterians banned Christmas in Scotland centuries ago. Christmas was banned in England under Oliver Cromwell’s rule.

    But that was centuries ago. And it’s true, there was a war on Christmas by certain protestant sects for several hundred years after the reformation. The Lutherans never banned Christmas but some sects did.

    But that was centuries ago although some New England stated continued the ban until the 1800s.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  291. I don’t know about you, but I am fed up with looking around at the hunger, homelessness, joblessness, and decayed infrastructure of our nation while seeing government constantly whining about how they must take care of this Neo-Nazi Israeli Regime.

    I think it is time to take all the friends of Israel in government, put them on a cargo ship, and send them to this land they clearly love so much more than their own!

    No government can serve two masters, and a government that serves Israel cannot, does not, and will not serve the American people. A friend of Israel is no friend of America. In these dark times America needs leaders who will put America first, second, and third!

    Members in US Congress who hold dual US/Israeli citizenship

    [MORE]

    Current members as best I could find:
    Senate:
    •Senator Barbara Boxer (California)
    •Senator Benjamin Cardin (Maryland)
    •Senator Russ Feingold (Wisconsin)
    •Senator Al Franken (Minnesota)
    •Senator Dianne Feinstein (California)
    •Senator Herb Kohl (Wisconsin)
    •Senator Frank Lautenberg (New Jersey)
    •Senator Joe Lieberman (Connecticut) (Independent)
    •Senator Carl Levin (Michigan)
    •Senator Charles Schumer (New York)
    •Senator Ron Wyden (Oregon)

    House of Representatives:
    •Representative Gary Ackerman (New York)
    •Representative John H. Adler (New Jersey)
    •Representative Shelley Berkley (Nevada)
    •Representative Howard Berman (California)
    •Representative Steve Cohen (Tennessee)
    •Representative Susan Davis (California)
    •Representative Eliot Engel (New York)
    •Representative Bob Filner (California)
    •Representative Barney Frank (Massachusetts)
    •Representative Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
    •Representative Alan Grayson (Florida)
    •Representative Jane Harman (California)
    •Representative Paul Hodes (New Hampshire)
    •Representative Steve Israel (New York)
    •Representative Steve Kagen (Wisconsin)
    •Representative Ronald Klein (Florida)
    •Representative Sander Levin (Michigan)
    •Representative Nita Lowey (New York)
    •Representative Jerry Nadler (New York)
    •Representative Jared Polis (Colorado)
    •Representative Steve Rothman (New Jersey)
    •Representative Jan Schakowsky (Illinois)
    •Representative Adam Schiff (California)
    •Representative Allyson Schwartz (Pennsylvania)
    •Representative Brad Sherman (California)
    •Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
    •Representative Henry Waxman (California)
    •Representative Anthony Weiner (New York)
    •Representative John Yarmuth (Kentucky)

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Skeptikal
  292. @JSS

    Here’s the problem JSS – If I largely avoid using the words Jew or Jewish I am avoiding the reality of what is taking place. These are Jewish organizations and individuals acting on behalf of the self-described Jewish state. I have never said that includes all Jews or even most Jews, but it sure includes a hell of a lot of them and particularly the ones that are most powerful and wealthy enough to make a difference. Organizations like ADL, AIPAC, JINSA and WINEP are self-described as Jewish, not Zionist, and they are the ones pushing for war with Iran which will only benefit Israel. The handful of billionaire individuals (Singer, Saban, Adelson, Marcus et. al.) who fund the foundations pushing for war are also all Jewish, though they admittedly are probably also Zionists. The foundations that they fund are heavily staffed by and always run by Jews, some of whom might identify as Zionists, some not. This is not a purely Zionist issue and we are kidding ourselves if we pretend there is not a Jewish lobby that promotes interests that are seen as Jewish, some of which have nothing to do with Israel like giving special social security and medicare benefits to “holocaust survivors.” Let me ask you a question: the current Weinstein scandals, apart from one non-Jewish homosexual actor who tried to molest a 14 year old boy, includes, insofar as I can tell, all Jewish males molesting only gentile women. So is Jewish part of the story or should we pretend that it did not happen that way? I note that the NYT and the rest of mainstream media prefer to see it as “white male dominance,” but is that really all it is? How do you tell the story without dishing up a plate of lies?

  293. Talha says:
    @iffen

    Hey iffen,

    Some on your side are heads of state.

    Sure, though I really don’t see much difference between them and Bibi.

    Again, there are these types on both sides.

    Sure, I never said our side doesn’t have guys that run over people with trucks – we apparently happen to be “graced” with a disproportionate number of those guys. Again, Spencer and Geller get air time on major networks and are taken seriously. I’m 100% ready to denounce our (“All Jews must die!”) extremists and even endorse Muslims taking military action against them if they try to cause destruction and slaughter. I’m ready to denounce any from our side who distort the historical record to make it seem like Jews are and always have been “treacherous pigs and monkeys”. It is completely unacceptable. I’m certain extremist Muslims talk about these things – but I have been through plenty of mosques in the US, learned with plenty of scholars and attended many, many lectures and I’ve never heard the kind of incendiary nonsense against Jews and Judaism that I’ve heard hurled by the extremists on the other side. I’m asking for reciprocity – are these figures going to be denounced and de-funded by the Israeli-supporting side?

    Problematic

    That’s fine, but every time I see smoke on this subject and trace ti to its source, inevitably it’s always the same group of people sitting at the campfire.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @iffen
  294. Alden says:
    @renfro

    What the Anglicans and southerners did about Christmas centuries ago doesn’t negate the fact that the New England puritans banned Christmas.

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @Skeptikal
  295. Alden says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    Actually, Easter was a spring festival of pagans. There was a fertility Goddess named something like ester. Her symbol was the most fertile of all animals, the rabbit.

    Jesus was crucified during Passover Week which occurs in the spring. So the early European Christians incorporated Jesus’ resurrection with the pagan spring festival honoring Ester and her rabbit.

    All those religious festivals are seasonal festivals. So are the secular festivals. Memorial Day, 4th of July and Labor Day are during the same times as the European Spring, mid summer and harvest festivals. Whatever its called, the festivals are the same all over. Persians have painted eggs for all the religions in Persia. The ancient Greeks had a mid winter festival featuring a parade of ever green trees.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  296. Alden says:
    @dcouzin

    American Jews do work for Israel, a foreign government. That is a fact. whether they are salaried employees of the Israel lobbying group AIPAC or just pay for a subscription to the local Jewish community newspaper which are por Israel, they work for and support Israel.

  297. D.L. says: • Website

    Thanks for the post. As a Christian, that is, believer in Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, it always bothers me to know so many Christians in Texas put Israel on the same footing as Christ because, after all, God tells us to “bless” Israel….right, by supporting genocide of Palestinians, who for the most part are truly descended from Judaiah and Samaria, in favor of Ashkenazi Jews, who (even Israeli historians admit) are descended from the Khazars. Maybe I’ll boycott goods made in Texas.

    http://somethinghappeninghere.wordpress.com

  298. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @iffen

    “I also find the existence of a “massive smear campaign” a little hard to believe.”

    Have you heard about Breivick, a mass murderer? Try to do some research on his ideological grooming. http://www.jpost.com/International/Norway-attack-suspect-had-anti-Muslim-pro-Israel-views
    You may also want to read about Helen Thomas, the honorable old woman and excellent journalist, and about what had happened to her after she had a PRIVATE conversation with a Brooklyn rabbi (btw, would not it be wonderful if the Brooklyn rabbis started paying attention towards the widespread pedophilia among Brooklyn rabbis and towards the fraudulent holocaust claims by the former Soviet Jews living in Brooklyn) http://theunhivedmind.com/UHM/pedophilia-rampant-in-orthodox-judaism/
    Moreover, the anti-BDS laws are the violation of the US Constitution, committed under the pressure of a “massive smear campaign” targeting the freedom of speech and freedom of association in order to protect the apartheid policies of Israel.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/marylands-anti-bds-tactic-is-unconstitutional/2017/10/27/91bd781a-ba61-11e7-9b93-b97043e57a22_story.html?utm_term=.de02c4950302

  299. geokat62 says:

    This is not a purely Zionist issue and we are kidding ourselves if we pretend there is not a Jewish lobby that promotes interests that are seen as Jewish, some of which have nothing to do with Israel like giving special social security and medicare benefits to “holocaust survivors.”

    Or, more importantly, as Prof. MacDonald has demonstrated, the domestic wing of The Lobby pushed for over 100 years to change the nation’s immigration laws to remove restrictions that were put in place to ensure the nation remained predominately a European-derived nation, in an effort to reduce the chances of new pogroms being committed by the American Cossacks.

    This strategy, by the way, has been successfully deployed by The Lobby’s international branches in most, if not all, Western nations, both in the New World as well as the Old.

  300. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    Calvin, Knox, Fox and their other preachers proudly proclaimed that Jesus was not God. They proclaimed that there was “but one God and that is the God of Israel”

    The essence of Christianity is that Jesus is God along with the desert sky God known as Jehovaha and God the Father.

    The Puritans ignored the goody goody be nice Christian part of the bible and go off on the sex and violence of the OT. they even discussed not eating pork and oysters and having church services on Saturday instead of Sunday. They also followed the Jewish custom of eating cold food on the sabbath.

    • Replies: @Millennial
  301. iffen says:
    @Talha

    Sure, though I really don’t see much difference between them and Bibi.

    Maybe the only difference is that they put their “evil” thoughts on record while Bibi keeps his under wraps.

    I’m asking for reciprocity – are these figures going to be denounced and de-funded by the Israeli-supporting side?

    You are not an extremist. You get your reciprocity from Jews and Christians, lapsed or not, who do not engage in promoting Islamophobia. You have to compare extremes to extremes, not a moderate in the middle to the others’ extreme.

    it’s always the same group of people sitting at the campfire.

    Are they singing kumbaya? :)

    We have to look at the big picture.

    I voted for Roy Moore, not because of what he said about Muslims not being allowed to serve in Congress, but in spite of it.

    • Replies: @Talha
  302. D.L. says: • Website
    @anarchyst

    “…I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk of our “judeo-Christian” heritage. There is NOTHING “judeo” about TRUE Christianity. Both judaism and islam regard their supreme being as a “God of vengeance” unlike Christianity…”

    THANK YOU! Judeo-Christian is as oxymoron as it gets! And Christian-Zionism is equally as bad as Islam is, and possibly worse. Memo to Christians–you cannot serve two masters (sayeth Jesus Christ Himself)…you cannot serve both Christ and Israel!

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
  303. @Corvinus

    Languages did not suddenly appear all at once, the way the biblical authors imagined and attempt to explain with this silly story.

    Silly story!

    Say it ain’t so!

    What other “silly stories” did the “biblical authors” compose?

    How long until we learn that Nahzees concocted the Noah’s Arc tale to get Jews to march 2 X 2 into the showers.

    But if the Tower of Babel story is not about the appearance of diverse languages, what is it about; why is it still referenced by Christians; and should we understand some larger meaning — one that eludes “silly story” believing Christians, accustomed as they seem to be to reducing Christianity to messages that can be depicted with elbow macaroni in Sunday school.

    In a series of lectures on the History of Ancient Israel by an archeologist whose name I’ve forgotten, [now I remember -- Eric Cline is his name] the story of Joshua’s conquest of Canaan was analyzed in terms of military strategy, with long-term goals, scouts, spies, traitors, a force that had spent a long time ‘underground;’ then, when all was in place, forces surrounded Jericho, broadcast their propaganda messages (blew through curled ram’s horns), and conquered the people, goods, and land.
    Benjamin Netanyahu is not a religious person, but he has stated publicly that he and his son are committed students of Hebrew bible — in its political and military meanings.

    Thus, it’s reasonable to seek the political meaning of the Story of the Tower of Babel. The last paragraph of the AISH.com interpretation sounds a lot like Invade the World Invite the World — except for Semites/Hebrews:

    The 70 languages were scattered around the globe, giving rise to diverse cultures. Only the descendents of Shem (the Semites) retained the original language, Hebrew.


    As an indication of the long-term planning mentioned in the Joshua story, zionists made long-term plans to revitalize Hebrew as the national language of the zionist project in Palestine.

    One more quick note:
    Gertrude Stein wrote this in “Wars I Have Seen” (1945):

    “I was much taken with what one American soldier said when he was in England. He said we did not get along at all with the English until they finally got it into their heads that we were not cousins, but foreigners, . . .

    The trouble of course is or was that by the time America became itself everybody or nearly everybody could read and write and so the language which would naturally have changed as Latin languages changed to suit each country, French, Italian and Spanish, Saxon countries England and Germany, Slav countries etcetera, America as everybody knew how to read and write the language instead of changing as it did in countries where nobody knew how to read and write while the language was being formed, the American language instead of changing remained English, long after the Americans in their nature their habits their feelings their pleasures and their pains had nothing to do with England.

    So the only way the Americans could change their language was by choosing words which they liked better than other words, . . . by shoving the language around until at last now the job is done, we use the same words as the English do but the words say an entirely different thing.

    Yet in that sense Americans have changed, I think of the Americans of the last war, they had their language but they were not yet in possession of it, and the children of the depression as that generation called itself it was beginning to possess its language but it was still struggling but now the job is done, the G. I. Joes have this language that is theirs, they do not have to worry about it, they dominate their language and in dominating their language which is now all theirs they have ceased to be adolescents and have become men.”

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  304. Alden says:
    @Edward Huguenin

    Barbara Boxer a dual American Israeli citizen? She’s Jewish but I don’t think she’s a dual citizen.
    Waxman isn’t in congress anymore and I doubt he’s a dual citizen either.

  305. iffen says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    OMG!

    Now they are defiling “our” women.

    Seriously, what are the odds that a powerful Hollywood executive will be Jewish?

    You are just shooting fish in a barrel now.

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
    , @Z-man
  306. D.L. says: • Website
    @Toad

    Don’t forget Galatians Chapter Three

  307. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @jane claire

    Could you just drop the meaningless “leftist regime” mantra?

    Here is the crux of the matter with regard to the current situation in the Middle East:
    Rurik: “In retrospect Soviet influence in the Middle East was very positive. It helped to create secular states like Iraq, Egypt, Syria and Libya (and Afghanistan in late 1970s) with modern universal educational systems, rights for women, industrialization, etc. It was the West and Israel that decided to destroy these states by using Islamists and Muslim fundamentalists and terrorists by supporting them starting with Muslim Brotherhood, Al Queida, Daesh and pumping up and keeping alive Saudi Arabia and Wahhabism.”

    Try to talk to the highly educated Afghan women who have escaped the US “improvements” (in tons of collected poppies) as compared to the Soviet-founded University in Kabul, which has produced the first, ever, medical doctors-females, architect-females, and engineers-females. Guess your studies in Israel did not include these facts.

    There would have been no Al Qaida/Daesh/ISIS successes in the Middle East if not the ziocons’ desire to implement Oded Yinon plan for Eretz Israel. Your attempts to pin everything on Afghanistan, which has been bombed out into stone age by the US “improvers,” is beyond silly. Learn some facts. FACTS.

    One more time, to let a fresh air into your foggy discourse: “It was the West and Israel that decided to destroy these [secular] states by using Islamists and Muslim fundamentalists and terrorists by supporting them starting with Muslim Brotherhood, Al Queida, Daesh and pumping up and keeping alive Saudi Arabia and Wahhabism.”

  308. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Talha

    You’re completely right. Actually, though, I had something else in mind, quite unrelated to the Dickensian*/commercialist Midwinter Festival and the apotheosis of Santa Claus. But I’m glad you brought it up because I rather felt I should have.

    *Curiously, in “A Christmas Carol” Christ is conspicuous by his absence.

    The feast of Christmas has traditionally been relatively more important to the Latins than to the Eastern Christians. I’m not sure why; perhaps the idea of God as an infant caught the imagination of the medievals (the existence of Infant Jesus of Prague supports this view) or perhaps the chilly German forests needed a feast to relieve them– but so it has been, which is why the Stabat mater speciosa was written along with the Stabat mater dolorosa, and why we have the Joyful Mysteries (of which the Nativity is the 3rd) to go along with the Sorrowful Mysteries and the Glorious Mysteries of the Holy Rosary.

    But it should not (and does not traditionally) eclipse Easter.

    By the way, today is the Feast of All Saints for us, so it’s interesting we’re discussing Church holidays.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Talha
  309. renfro says:
    @Alden

    ” What the Anglicans and southerners did about Christmas centuries ago doesn’t negate the fact that the New England puritans banned Christmas”>>>

    Didn’t say it wasn’t. Read the comment more carefully……Although Christmas wasn’t outlawed outside of New England,

    • Replies: @Alden
  310. @Philip Giraldi

    “… like giving special Social Security & Medicare bennies to Holocaust survivors.”

    Mr. G.

    PLEASE tell me that the above quote is not a real Jewish Lobby initiative? A joke, eh? Hee-haw?

    (Zigh)

    At age 65, I wonder how much more President Bonespur’s * Treasury Department Jews would give me for surviving (intact) three years of chaotic bus driving for the broke Scranton School District?

    (Zigh)

    Thank you!

    * Thanks once again to J. St. Clair’ s coining the name “President Bonespur.”

  311. Ragno says:
    @whyamihere

    Muslim terrorism in Europe and the US as commonplace events – nonexistant prior to 1948. (And no fair reaching back to the Middle Ages for a saver.)

    Besides, I’m getting mighty tired of hearing about “Muslim terrorists who if they got their way would slaughter every Jew and turn Israel into another third world Muslim hellhole where barbarity is commonplace.” Unless there’s a section of the newspaper they’ve been withholding from me, I don’t actually see very much Muslim extremist violence waged upon Western Jews. Quite the reverse, in fact. When Allah’s Boys go kill-crazy in the white man’s lands, they seem to make it a point to aim for the blue-eyed and blond-haired whenever possible. If the butchers responsible for the Pulse and Bataclan massacres went out of their way to start with the manager’s office, or the box-office, it might play into this slaughter every Jew narrative….but they didn’t.

    You’d assume that we’d be reading about truck bombs leveling synagogues on a weekly basis, based on the CW spouted by whyamihere and others….but you know what they say about people who assume.

  312. @ChuckOrloski

    Mr. Giraldi,

    Poland’s — my ancestral home– gift of survivor benefits to Holocaust survivors is cool, so why not here? (Zigh) Refer below.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-first-time-poland-to-pay-pensions-to-survivors/

  313. Ragno says:

    By the way – suddenly there’s no longer the ability to go back to the text of my remarks to fix typos and such. Why is that?

    My apologies, it was apparently a momentary glitch.

  314. Art says:
    @Old Jew

    If you’d only know, for how long I have been waiting for Mr. Giraldi to slide down the memory hole.

    Old Jew,

    You live a pseudo superior fantasy – you cannot kill the human spirit – the wrong being done is obvious – the deeds onerous – there will be more and more people like Mr. Giraldi.

    America was living off past accomplishments – now we are living off things that Jews did. Now we are reaping the impairments that Jews have put in play – and it is ugly.

    Clearly things are going badly – and getting worst by the day – and the reasons for these troubles can be traced back to you Jews. As you Jews get richer – we get poorer – as Israel get stronger – America gets more hated — those are the facts.

    You can jibber-jabber all you want – but that is all that it is – empty talk. There are more people on to your Jew lies every day.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. I am doing a little survey among you Jews – when Israel does its well advertised “Samson suicide thing” – and nukes the world – what city do you want them to start with — the Vatican or Berlin?

    p.s. Right now it is 50-50.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  315. @iffen

    Iffen, you seem to want it both ways. I have been criticized on this site and in the national press for claiming that Jews run Hollywood and also the media (which also is heavily represented in the Weinstein revelations) and you are now defending them when they behave badly by saying “Of course they are Jewish” to somehow exonerate them.

  316. Talha says:
    @iffen

    You have to compare extremes to extremes

    It would be nice to ship both extremist sides to some island somewhere to settle the affair – then maybe they’d leave the rest of us the hell alone.

    And you are right, but all I’m saying is that – in the US – the pro-Israeli extremists certainly get far more airplay and accorded far more respectability than our extremists.

    If we were in Saudi, the situation would obviously change, but I have little say in how Saudi runs things.

    what he said about Muslims not being allowed to serve in Congress

    Interesting, I didn’t know he was saying this. It’d actually be funny if he got his way; the US would automatically be behind (in this respect) a number of Muslim countries who have non-Muslims serving in their parliaments. Hell, Pakistan has even had a couple of Christian Major Generals, one is still alive:

    http://www.fccollege.edu.pk/member/dr-noel-khokhar-hi-m/

    So, it’s a toss up for me – sure Muslims would lose a couple of seats, but it’d be nice seeing the faces on some people when confronted with; “Even Iran has Jews serving in parliament!” LOL!

    Peace.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @iffen
    , @iffen
  317. BJ says:

    I will never buy an isreali product or services knowingly.
    I will never support that bastard country.
    I will never have anything to do with that country.
    The World was much better off prior to its coming into being.
    I wish I could prevent my tax money from going to this country when it is so needed in the USA.
    They never pay for anything and only want, want, want.
    They get at least $10 Billion+ every year! WHY?
    What have they got that our politicians bend over and take it agin & agin.
    When the US fails that country will fail because they cannot exist without us.
    I hope I see the day it happens………

  318. @Alden

    Actually, Easter was a spring festival of pagans. There was a fertility Goddess named something like ester. Her symbol was the most fertile of all animals, the rabbit.

    Ostara or Eostre. “dawn goddess” — radiant dawn, upspringing light, joy and blessing. Norse and German.

    • Replies: @Alden
  319. Vinteuil says:
    @Wally

    Wally – would you be willing to accept that David Cole’s estimate of about 3-3.5 million for Jewish victims of the NAZI’s is at least a reasonable guess?

    http://takimag.com/article/how_many_jews_can_be_gassed_on_the_head_of_a_pin_david_cole#axzz4x58O51ky

    This is a guy who has done his level best to get to the truth, at great personal cost to himself.

    I’d really like to see him posting here, as well as at Taki’s.

  320. Talha says:
    @Anon

    But it should not (and does not traditionally) eclipse Easter.

    Yeah – I cannot understand how it would from a doctrinal perspective – even without being Christian.

    From what I understand; the entire matter rests upon what happened on Golgotha/Calvary and the events of the subsequent 3 days – that is literally the crescendo of the raison d’etre for humanity and its purpose in the Eyes of its Creator in the mind of the Christian. Paul built the entire theological framework around it.

    It’s a shame really what’s happened to Christmas – to me it’s been so commercialized that ripping out “Merry Christmas” is simply robbing the cadaver of it boots or something. It tries to be so inclusive (for obvious commercial reasons) that I have to remind my kids why we don’t participate in it. Though I will cop to taking advantage of the after-Christmas bargains at times – slim pickings, but they gotta clear those shelves.

    Peace.

  321. @Philip Giraldi

    I have been criticized on this site and in the national press for claiming that Jews run Hollywood and also the media

    If you feel so inclined, just blame it on me. Jews own Hollywood and 90% of media in any form. Therefore, they control Hollywood and media, and they dictate what is produced by Hollywood and reported by media.

  322. Art says:
    @Corvinus

    Anyone who you believe is Jewish, merely because they oppose your position or disagree with what you say, is automatically a Jew. No evidence required.

    Is comment after comment favoring Jews and Israel — evidence?

    Identity is a strong emotion – it is unusual for a person to so vigorously defend someone else’s identity.

    It is not unusual for a Jew to lie about these matters.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  323. Vinteuil says:
    @Wally

    Wally – would you be willing to accept that David Cole’s estimate of about 3-3.5 million for Jewish victims of the NAZI’s is at least a reasonable guess?

    http://takimag.com/article/how_many_jews_can_be_gassed_on_the_head_of_a_pin_david_cole#axzz4x58O51ky

    If not, why not?

  324. iffen says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Iffen, you seem to want it both ways.

    Confirms my normalcy.

    Jews run Hollywood and also the media

    I am sure that you don’t keep up with all the comments here, but in the past I actually disagreed with fellow hasbarist, Sam Shama, and stated that I didn’t think it was too far off the mark to say that “Jews run Hollywood.” I am not sure that we could extend that to all the other media, although I am under the impression that they are very influential in the publishing business, and, of course, everyone is aware that they are disproportionately represented in all media vis-à-vis actual % of the population.

    The point is that the improprieties accrue to the position of movie mogul and not to Jewishness. The separate fact that most (?) movie moguls are Jewish means that most moguls that end up in hot water will be Jewish, not because there is something weird about being Jewish, but because they are disproportionately represented in the occupation.

    I do not think that it is anti-Semitic to say that Jews run Hollywood or to say that they have outsized influence in the media. What is questionable is if that is all that you have to say and you say it every day.

  325. iffen says:
    @Talha

    the pro-Israeli extremists certainly get far more airplay and accorded far more respectability than our extremists.

    May have to give you this one. :)

  326. Giraldi is a needed voice in this country.

  327. Talha says:
    @Vinteuil

    Hey Vinteuil,

    Thanks for that link – that was a well written and reasoned article.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Vinteuil
  328. geokat62 says:

    The point is that the improprieties accrue to the position of movie mogul and not to Jewishness.

    Not according to Mark Oppenheimer.

    Here’s an excerpt from his Tablet article, THE SPECIFICALLY JEWY PERVINESS OF HARVEY WEINSTEIN: The disgraced film producer is a character straight out of Philip Roth, playing out his revenge fantasies on the Goyim

    [MORE]

    At first squint, Harvey Weinstein seems like a very familiar type. Isn’t he the old, same old, another rich, entitled, powerful man with a bad dye job abusing his might to coerce women into sex? Isn’t Harvey just like Roger Ailes, or Bill O’Reilly, or, for that matter, Bill Clinton? But look at the details of the case and you’ll see that the answer is no. Harvey is different. Harvey, sadly, is a deeply Jewish kind of pervert.

    As despicable as you may find Ailes, O’Reilly, and the other grabby goyim,… Harvey did something unique—no less odious, but different. Harvey performed. As we now are hearing (whether we want to or not), he allegedly made a woman watch as he masturbated into a potted plant. And if you want to understand this bizarre behavior, don’t look to Roger Ailes, or David Vitter, or Paul Crouch—look to Philip Roth.

    Better than perhaps any other author, Roth captured the particular anxiety of the Jewish American man in the twentieth century, finally coming into power but, having not grown up with it, unsure of what he’s supposed to do now. All those years craving unattainable Gentiles, but never before the means to entice them. The result is Alexander Portnoy of Portnoy’s Complaint, a grown man whose emotional and sexual life is still all one big performance piece, just as it had been when he was a teenager and pleasured himself with a piece of liver…

    http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/246724/the-specifically-jewy-perviness-of-harvey-weinstein**

    • Replies: @geokat62
  329. geokat62 says:
    @geokat62

    Somehow this piece got dropped from my previous comment:

    What is questionable is if that is all that you have to say and you say it every day.

    Yeah, Phil. Why don’t you ever talk about something more important, like the weather, and instead focus on the silly machinations of The Lobby that has done serious damage to the american people? What’s wrong with you? Don’t tell me that you too are suffering from “Jews on the brain” disease.

  330. Wally says: • Website
    @Vinteuil

    We know all about David Cole.
    We also know his life was physically threatened by the JDL.
    He’s no longer allowed to mention that, clearly a deal was made.

    Nope. There’s no proof for Cole’s laughable ‘holocaust-lite’.

    No, he hasn’t tried his best. He’s trying to protect his skin.
    His basis for his newly found ‘holocaust’ lite is just as impossible & absurd as the standard storyline.
    He clearly knows that. I suggest you look into it as well.

    Cole’s latest version of the narrative has been utterly debunked at http://www.forum.codoh.com
    and elsewhere, i.e.:
    The Treblinka Archaeology Hoax

    https://codoh.com/library/document/3286/

    and:
    Response to David Cole Regarding Treblinka

    https://codoh.com/library/document/3930/

    Cole won’t post here or the CODOH forum because he nows would have his head handed to him by me and many others if he did.

    Vinteuil, if feel you have what it takes, I suggest that you too debate.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
  331. @Philip Giraldi

    (Zigh)

    Dear Phil,

    (Zigh)

    When one gets baptized into The Lobby cash-cow stream, there are no limits as to what goodness they could do for lowing Israel.

    Thank you.

  332. Corvinus says:
    @Art

    Is comment after comment favoring Jews and Israel — evidence?”

    You’re going to have to do better than pander to the Anti-Joo crowd. Please show me the specific instances by which I favor Jews and Israel. Certainly you are able to demonstrate thoroughly my “comment after comment” about your favorite subject.

    “Identity is a strong emotion – it is unusual for a person to so vigorously defend someone else’s identity.”**

    It is other than unusual for a person to clarify their various ethnicities in light of individuals willfully
    making wild accusations about that person’s supposed ethnicity or religion.

    “It is not unusual for a Jew to lie about these matters.”

    In light of your own statement**, it would appear that you are actually Jewish, but are too ashamed to admit it, considering how you insist that I must be Jewish, even though you have no direct proof.

  333. @iffen

    Hey Judah Ben iffen-iffen,

    Hmph! Just you wait for the Maven Shama’s return from business in Hong Kong!

    “… in the past I have actually disagreed with fellow hasbarist, Sam Shama.”

    W.T.F. Ben iffen-iffen? (Gasp) What happens if The Traveling Hasbara Cowboy reads about your classification?

    (Zigh) The Maven’s even “big” in the Far East now, and just wait ’til he learns about the demotion to being just a “fellow hasbarist” like you.

    Selah Him be Tarzan, You be Cheetah.

  334. Corvinus says:
    @RadicalCenter

    “Thing is, hundreds of millions of Christians, including many of us raised in the Catholic Church, would not shed a tear at white-hating America-hating collectivist spinster Jorge Bergoglio and his homosexual and pedophile bishops being hit by a terminal attack. This was a great institution and it has become so thoroughly infiltrated and dedicated to pushing white peolle out of their own countries that I can no longer support it.”

    You don’t speak for those hundreds of millions of Christians. You only speak for yourself. How do you know that the pope is “white hating” and “America hating”? Are you simply projecting here?

    “Rather than someone attacking them – which I would never do – I’d rather they simply repent and stop aiding and supporting the destruction of our Western civilization, peacefully.”

    American Catholics generally refer to their society as the United States, not western civilization.

  335. Corvinus says:
    @RadicalCenter

    “Well, in fairness to Israel, nuking “German” cities would be a good way for them to kill millions of Muslims nowadays.”

    But not a good way to liquify their fellow German Jews in the process.

  336. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Nowadays claiming to be the Chosen one will make people laugh and ignore the “genuine real demands ” of the Chosen People So they use modern languages out of political social and historical importance and get those same services .

  337. Old Jew says:
    @geokat62

    1 . Dear Geo,

    My grandfather and grandmother died of disease in 1942, in the camp of Moghilev in Transnistria.
    And an uncle and aunt too. The spirit of Giraldi’s texts is the same as I find in the Romanian Nazi newspapers from 1940-1941.

    2. I’m done reading “The Israeli Lobby” by Mearsheimer and Walt. I hate throwing away books. If any of the Giraldi fans here, needs it and provides a Post Office Box address (respect is privacy) I’d mail it to him.

    As I wrote you some times ago, I thought M&W were mistaken. [American Interests change all the time].
    You think they were right and their assessment was/is correct.

    They are scientists.

    But Giraldi is not. He is a polemicist.

    He seems to care more about “Screw Israel and the Jews” than about the well being of American Catholics.

    He sincerely believes that he has discovered and knows the greatest danger to America. Better than those elected representatives.

    Never crosses his mind that he himself might be of some danger or that he might be mistaken.

    I’m pretty sure he is biased and wrong.

    Time will tell.

    And if G. goes down that memory hole, as “nsa” so aptly said, it will be my validation.

  338. Old Jew says:
    @chris

    Chris,

    You might get old, some day.

    • Replies: @chris
    , @anon
  339. @Anon

    Don’t know much about Gramsci. Is he the Frankfurt school Italian who spent most of his life in Russia?

    Many say to steer clear of Holocaust. I see it as the Shield of Ajax that deflects any and all otherwise appropriate criticism of political offenses by advocates for Israel. It’s the seven-layered barrier that enabled 70 years of “pandering to Israel.”

    Besides, the dogmatized Holocaust narrative is really bad “history.” I’m no historian or scholar or intellectual; in Herodotus’s History I stumbled upon the story of Croesus misinterpreting the Delphic oracle: he thought the oracle’s message was a green light to attack Persia — “If you wage war on Persia you will destroy a mighty empire.” Croesus went to war and lost, thereby destroying HIS empire, Lydia.
    The moral of the story is obvious: if you misinterpret the oracle — or history — you run a big risk of losing your country.

    That it is impermissible to research that history with the full clarity it demands suggests to me that there is some enormous truth that must remain hidden behind that shield.

    imo “revising” over 6 million vs 3 million is a distraction, a red herring; I think the entire narrative of holocaust is bogus. Several years ago I heard Lynne Olson talk about her book, Those Angry Days, about the battle to get USA into the war in Europe. Olson discussed the use of propaganda to persuade Americans. Shortly after that I read a history of the holocaust; it was the same narrative: what we call a ‘history’ of the war/holocaust is a seamless continuation of the propaganda that involved US in the war in the first place.
    But it’s worse than that: Olson’s book deals w/ events in 1940, but the propaganda campaign started in 1933; Jewish demonization of Hitler and Germany from 1933 to just after Pearl Harbor was vicious and relentless, but as you and I and those who know that 2 + 2 = 4 (h/t iffen) know, there was no holocaust in 1933. What were Jews going on about in 1933, 1934, 1935, 1936, 1937, 1938? Why were they so intent on demonizing Germany? Most Jews have no idea what their Jewish leaders were doing behind the scenes to provoke and enflame war with Germany, even tho some of those facts are readily available in books published by and about prominent Jews.

    Jewish people may find security behind that shield, but this is the USA and there are more issues to be concerned with than those of a very small minority population.

    Citizens of USA have the right and also the obligation to understand their nation’s history, good, bad and indifferent, because policy is based on history: the situation US is in today makes it obvious something is going very painfully awry. There’s a real danger of losing our country. I think the USA got off on the wrong track w/ FDR’s administration (Wilson was the beta), and while a backward move to a point in time is neither feasible nor prudent, it does seem necessary to have a free and open conversation — no self-censoring, no politically correct censorship — about whether the American people wish to live and form policy based on principles set out by Founding Fathers, or by the many innovations introduced by the (Wilson), F D Roosevelt, and Truman administrations.

    The article, below, states, “As the events exit living memory . . . [they] shift from memory to history.”

    In an conversation with Brian Lamb, historian Thomas Fleming said:

    [A]s you get older, you begin to look back on things, not through a haze of memory, especially if you go into the business of being an historian, and you start to think, `Well, what was he really like? What was the whole thing all about?’ . . . right now I think we’re just getting to the end of the influence of memory on history, and we’re getting into the pure history of World War II. . . .

    Michael Kammen, a good friend of mine from Cornell, wrote a wonderful book called the “Mystic Chords of Memory,” in which he speculates on the impact of memory in history, and hemaintains that it takes about 100 years for somebody to get–for a generation or a country to get to the point where they can look back on a gigantic experience, like World War II or the Civil War, objectively. http://www.c-span.org/video/?164982-1/book-discussion-new-dealers-war

    I bristle when I read folks talk of “victors writing the history.” That’s not history, it’s chest-thumping; Dostoevsky termed such behavior “deformed triumphalism.” We haven’t yet gotten to an honest history of WWII and the Holocaust, but it’s time, and it’s critically important that we do so.

    The following clip suggests why our Jewish friends resist “Facing History and Ourselves;” as long as the shield of Holocaust can be raised, fingers can point outward; they need not confront any unpleasant truths, and they need not do the very hard work of changing their attitudes — not when it’s always the Other guy who is the “anti-semite”.

    Ebb Tide in the Golden Country

    http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/191087/ebb-tide-in-the-golden-country

    “The horror of the Holocaust purchased us a 70-year vacation from history, though we didn’t know it. We believed the world had changed, as had human nature. Jews remained distinct in the new dispensation, but in a good way—a near-at-hand exotic, a symbol of exile, which we were told was the natural state of modern man. For perhaps the only time in history, you might actually want to be a Jew. . . .

    the Holocaust . . . is one reason there are so few Jews. We lost almost half our population not long ago. “Never Forget” is one of the admonitions we heard in Sunday School. But people do forget. Everything, all the time. As the events exit living memory, as the people who survived it as well as those who liberated the camps, die, tragedy shifts from memory to history. As memory fades, the old thing [antisemitism] returns, filling the subterranean cisterns.

    Non-Jewish Americans gain almost as much comfort and moral smugness from hiding behind the shield of Holocaust, with its accompanying, “Hitler was the ultimate evil.” That lets them off the hook for the horrendous war crimes they committed.

    Because both groups — Anglos and Zionists (Jews) — have for all these years not confronted the horror of their own behaviors in the wars in Europe, they keep repeating the same behavior.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  340. Alden says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    Thanks for the info I knew it was something like that.

  341. iffen says:
    @Talha

    what he said about Muslims not being allowed to serve in Congress

    Interesting, I didn’t know he was saying this.

    If you didn’t know about his anti-Muslim statement, what information did you have that inspired you to make the following comment?

    Talha says:
    October 26, 2017 at 9:17 pm GMT
    @Incitatus

    Beets vs cauliflower.

    More like; poop pudding or s*** sandwich…

    Peace.

  342. iffen says:
    @Talha

    And you are right, but all I’m saying is that – in the US – the pro-Israeli extremists certainly get far more airplay and accorded far more respectability than our extremists.

    You have to be fair and acknowledge all of the interference running and front lashing that the MSM does on behalf of immigrants,especially Muslim immigrants, when we have an attack like the one today in NY.

    • Replies: @Talha
  343. Alden says:
    @Vinteuil

    I won’t accept any version of Jewish victims of the Nazis unless the other peoples who were victimized by the Nazi Germans are included. WW2 was about more than Jews. Although it did give them eternal victim status and all the privileges thereof.

    Hope I live until April of 2045 when the last person born in Europe during WW2 reaches 100.

    There is a currently nauseating ad on late night TV. It’s these aged, wrinkled dressed in rags old ladies or crones who have no food, shelter or clothes unless boxes of supplies are sent to them by some Christian church.

    The laughable thing is that these old ladies live in Israel an officially socialist state that supposedly takes care of its elderly as long as they are Jews. The Christian church that makes the ads and begs people to support these starving old ladies claims that A .Old Jewish women in Israel will die of starvation unless food packages are sent to them and B.Israel is a light unto the world.

    Ever heard of Friends of the IDF? It’s a jewish organization that raises tens of millions a year from the holocaust haunted wealthy Jews to provide material to the IDF. Friends of IDF carefully skirts the laws against arming other country’s armies by claiming that all the money goes for medical care, uniforms, food, furniture, and other supplies for the IDF.

    But of course if Friends of the IDF provides for food, barracks, furniture, clothing medical care and other non armament supplies then the IDF can use the money it saves on weapons and propaganda.

  344. iffen says:
    @Old Jew

    The spirit of Giraldi’s texts is the same as I find in the Romanian Nazi newspapers from 1940-1941.

  345. Alden says:
    @Vinteuil

    The Red Cross wrote a report right at the end of WW2 that said only about 750,000 civilians of all religions died as a result of the German occupations.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Vinteuil
    , @Vinteuil
  346. @Old Jew

    My grandfather and grandmother died of disease in 1942, in the camp of Moghilev in Transnistria.

    According to wikipedia, Giraldi was born in 1946.

    Phil Giraldi was not responsible for things that happened to your grandparents in 1942.

    Lots of people died in 1942.
    Lots of people died last week, the result of US foreign policy activities in other people’s countries.

    My understanding of what Phil is trying to do is to re-align US foreign policy so that more grandparents, and their children and grandchildren, can live a long and fruitful life.

    I’m glad Phil does what he does, and I wish him the rewards of long life and ariete for doing so.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @geokat62
  347. @Old Jew

    Hey Old Jew,

    Does the Talmud teach that a non-scientist can not think & write according to scientific method?

    A great Reform Jew, the late-Carl Sagan wrote “The Demon Haunted World” which even helped Dumb Goyim (like me) to think & reason scientifically. (Zigh)

    A serious deal for you to consider, Old Jew.

    I will give you my actual mailing address for mailing “The Israeli Lobby.” In exchange, give me yours and I will mail you Mr. Sagan’s popular (scientific) book, “The Demon Haunted World.”

    Selah The Demon Haunted Jewish Lobby.

  348. Talha says:
    @iffen

    Hey iffen,

    More like; poop pudding or s*** sandwich…

    Oh – that was a general statement on the choices that are proffered up to the voters to decide between. Sorry, I have nothing against Mr. Moore – other than he is running for public office. Oh – and there was that statement about us Muslims in Illinois being ruled by shariah law. LOL! Yeah – here I am not married to three other women. If we’re going to be blamed for it, I’d like to at least benefit from it somehow.

    You have to be fair and acknowledge

    Acknowledged – invade + invite (TM).

    Peace.

    • Replies: @iffen
  349. iffen says:
    @Talha

    LOL! Yeah – here I am not married to three other women.

    You know as well as I do that prohibition of polygamy in America is something that you should be thankful for along with me and all real Muricans.

    • Replies: @MEexpert
  350. Wally says: • Website
    @Talha

    said:
    “that was a well written and reasoned article.”

    Really? How so?
    Be specific.

    It’s might work for that those who want /need to believe; but if you actually investigate the impossible claims within Cole’s double talk, it quickly falters

    But then religion defies scientific, rational thought.

    a must read here:
    David Cole still trying his demolished ‘holocaust-lite’ routine

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=85998

  351. @Old Jew

    I too am a grandchild of Holocaust victims. My grandfather fell out of a guard tower and broke his neck!

    That one never gets old.

  352. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Yes, but the spirit of Giraldi’s articles was born long before 1946 and the people with that spirit were responsible for many of the deaths that occurred in 1942.

    I wish Giraldi success as well, but like I stated before, what’s the objective here? Is it to get at dem Jews or is it to get at the warmongers?

    Oh, and all of us will die.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Art
  353. Wally says: • Website
    @Alden

    A spot on comparison here:

    911 and the Holocaust: Cognitive Dissonance
    by Jim Rizoli

    https://codoh.com/library/document/5038/?lang=en

    Rizoli emphasizes in everyday language the impossibility of the claims and that free speech & open debate on the’holocaust’ is the only controversial issue that is banned, censored, attacked in every way possible.

    tax exempt cash taken in by USHMM
    $151,826,695.00

    https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/042717-IRS-Form-990-FY16.pdf

    US Taxpayers money to to USHMM:
    56,999,500.00
    source: https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/20160209-fy17-pres-budget-request.pdf

  354. Art says:
    @Old Jew

    He sincerely believes that he has discovered and knows the greatest danger to America. Better than those elected representatives.

    To funny Old Jew – you Jews live in false pseudo-goodness pseudo-righteous fog.

    “Those elected representatives” all gave Netanyahu 29 standing ovations. That man hides 200 nukes. If you say anything about that – he will attack you – and try to hurt you.

    It is you Jews who divine to kill all of humanity.

    Sanctions on Israel are coming.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Your attack on Mr. Giraldi’s free speech is intellectually criminal. You are a bad man.

  355. @iffen

    like I stated before, what’s the objective here? Is it to get at dem Jews or is it to get at the warmongers?

    are those mutually exclusive categories?

    • Replies: @iffen
  356. geokat62 says:
    @Old Jew

    Dear OJ. Thank-you for your response.

    It’s true that I vigorously support the analysis and conclusions the two truth-telling professors put forward in their magnum opus.

    I also do not wish to diminish the significance of your loss during WWII, as I too suffered the loss of my uncle and grandmother, both of whom were murdered by the rebels during the German occupation of Greece.

    That said, I, like Phil Giraldi, believe it is necessary to speak out against the nefarious activities of The Lobby for the benefit of the American people.

    Let’s talk turkey, shall we? While The Lobby is doing its utmost to promote the interests of Jewry both in the diaspora and in Israel, it is doing so at the expense of the goyim.

    And chief among their perceived interests are the following two overriding objectives:

    1. To safeguard the security of Jews in the diaspora
    2. To safeguard the security of Jews in the Jewish state

    With respect to Ojective #1, I recently made a comment about the Father of Multiculturalism in Sweden. His name was David Schwarz.

    David and other members of The Lobby “Swedish style” were so successful in changing Swedish immigration laws that Sweden is no longer a nation dominated by Swedish culture.

    And when some of the native Swedes had the chutzpah to speak up about it, they were and continue to be attacked for being antisemites. Here’s how one Swedish journalist, Ingrid Carlqvist, put it:

    If we say that “I’m Sweden, I’m proud to be a Swede, I love my country, Sweden is the country of the Swedes, and I want us to take our country back.” Then I will always hear, “Oh, so you want another holocaust? Is that what you want? You are a nazi. Everyone who is a patriot, a nationalist, is a nazi. And that leads to one thing: to gas the Jews.”

    So, OJ, I think you’ll agree with me that the interests of the Jewish diaspora in Sweden and the native Swedes themselves are clearly not aligned.

    On to Objective #2. Although you may not agree with them, here is how Mearsheimer and Walt described the consequences of the policies promoted by The Lobby “American style”:

    While other special interest groups – including ethnic lobbies representing Cuban Americans, Irish Americans, Armenian Americans, and Indian Americans – have managed to skew U.S. foreign policy in directions that they favored, no ethnic lobby has diverted that policy as far from what the American national interest would otherwise suggest. The Israel lobby has successfully convinced many Americans that American and Israeli interests are essentially identical. In fact, they are not.

    Once again, I think you’ll agree with me that the interests of American Jews and non-Jewish Americans are clearly not aligned.

    If we take these two examples as established facts, the next question is: what is to be done?

    I’ve repeatedly reminded people about the story of Oedipus Rex, whose moral is that of the self-fulfilling prophecy. One need not be a Nostradamus to see where things are headed.

    Here is Prof. MacDonald’s grim prognostication:

    The prediction, both on common sense grounds and on the basis of psychological research on social identity process (e.g., Hogg & Abrams, 1987), is that as other groups become increasingly powerful and salient in a multicultural society, the European-derived peoples of the United States will become increasingly unified and that contemporary divisive influences among the European-derived peoples of the United States (e.g., issues related to gender and sexual orientation; social class differences; religious differences) will be increasingly perceived as unimportant. Eventually these groups will develop greater cohesion and a sense of common interest in their interactions with the other ethnic groups with profound consequences on the future history of America and the West.

    So, OJ, to prevent this scenario from unfolding, I believe the night flower needs to be exposed to sunlight so that it eventually disappears. This is the only plausible solution that avoids the inevitable conflicts that await us down the road. I also believe we need brave Americans like Phil Giraldi who are willing to speak truth to power, and thereby expose the machinations of The Lobby to said sunlight. Without his efforts and the efforts of others like him, I’m afraid we all shall be relearning first hand the lessons of Oedipus Rex.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  357. Art says:
    @iffen

    Yes, but the spirit of Giraldi’s articles was born long before 1946 and the people with that spirit were responsible for many of the deaths that occurred in 1942.

    iffen,

    My god – can you make a point without bringing up WWII.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. How many cut&past WWII screeds to you have in the ready – do you a have a high speed disk?

  358. lavoisier says: • Website
    @SolontoCroesus

    The biggest crime is the covering up of the mass murders perpetrated by the Bolsheviks and how those genocidal murders gave rise to the genocide of Hitler.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  359. @Rurik

    How do you expect your arguments to be given any weight if you toss factoids round so carelessly. Just to show I have wasted time on your first link let me point out that it says nothing to justify your reference to Orthodox rabbis. On the contrary it deals with the long established problem of Israeli governments having to do deals on peripheral matters with tbe Shas Party of a handful of ULTRA Orthodox members of the Knesset in order to have a majority.

    I note that your second link’s URL mentions Khodorkovsky as if he is Jewish. A mutual friend assures me he is Orthodoc Christian.

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    , @Art
    , @L.K
  360. “One particular pending piece of federal legislation that is also currently making its way through the Senate would far exceed what is happening at the state level and would set a new standard for deference to Israeli interests on the part of the national government. It would criminalize any U.S. citizen “engaged in interstate or foreign commerce” who supports a boycott of Israel or who even goes about “requesting the furnishing of information” regarding it, with penalties enforced through amendments of two existing laws…According to the Jewish Telegraph Agency, the Senate bill was drafted with the assistance of AIPAC. The legislation, which would almost certainly be overturned as unconstitutional if it ever does in fact become law, is particularly dangerous and goes well beyond any previous pro-Israeli legislation as it essentially denies free of expression when the subject is Israel.”

    Uh, no, Mr. Giraldi. Substitute “should” for “would,” and I am right there with you. But “would almost certainly?” Not a chance in hell, I’m afraid. Take a look at who dominates the federal bench. Take a look at its decisions these past 20 years on anything that implicates Zionist or Jewish interests. The federal anti-BDS law will pass constitutional muster with flying colors–specifically, the colors blue and white with a “Magen Dawid” in the middle.

  361. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    That’s a question that you and your fellow travelers need to answer, not me.

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  362. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Agree. Only the new pagan christians think otherwise. There’s a sentimentality in their ‘Christmas approach’ that reads almost like homesickness. But then the option is:

    “Do not delude yourself with lies,
    Like the beasts man simply dies,
    And after that comes nothing.”
    B. Brecht

  363. geokat62 says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    A mutual friend assures me he is Orthodoc Christian.

    Does your mutual friend work for the Jerusalem Post?

    PUTIN TO PARDON JAILED JEWISH TYCOON MIKHAIL KHODORKOVSKY

    http://m.jpost.com/International/Putin-to-pardon-jailed-Jewish-tycoon-Mikhail-Khodorkovsky-335564

    To be fair, this Wiki entry claims that he is half Jewish, but it is appears most of the information presented is based on the word of Masha Gesson:

    Khodorkovsky’s parents, Boris and Marina Khodorkovsky, were “engineers in Moscow who spent their entire careers at a measuring-instruments factory”, writes Masha Gessen. Khodorkovsky’s father was Jewish, and his mother was Russian Orthodox Christian.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Khodorkovsky

    Not sure how dependable MG word is, however.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  364. Art says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    On the contrary it deals with the long established problem of Israeli governments having to do deals on peripheral matters with tbe Shas Party of a handful of ULTRA Orthodox members of the Knesset in order to have a majority.

    Oh my — I am crying – poor Israel – it is those Shas again – we must forgive Israel everything.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Israel is going to implode.

    • Troll: Wizard of Oz
  365. @Vinteuil

    Still too high. Probably 1-2M Jews died of all causes at German hands (mass shootings, deportations, conditions in the camps, etc). The gassing stories are highly dubious, but real crimes did occur, without question.

    • Replies: @Wally
  366. @geokat62

    Perhaps you would like to fit in to your analyses my experience of going to Sweden with a well known Jewish tour leader of strong Zionist sympathies. We heard all about the pathetic Swedish loss or lack of national or ethnic consciousness but the only reference to Jews was that they were effectively being driven out of Malmő by the influx of Muslims. (Of course the ultimate conspiracy theorist could hark back to stories of Zionists in the 30s and 40s preventing Jews escaping to anywhere but Palestine and to Zionists taking advantage of anti-Semitism but I don’t).

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Wally
  367. @geokat62

    My friend is 100 per cent non Jewish English who ran a big educational charity for Khodorkovsky when K was incarcerated.

  368. Skeptikal says:
    @Alden

    No, they did not “ban” Christmas.
    They frowned upon any frivolous celebration of holy days. They considered them an occasion for deeper prayer. Santa Claus and the whole Christmas folderol didn’t even exist yet, for anyone to “ban.”

  369. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Old Jew

    “My grandfather and grandmother died of disease in 1942, in the camp of Moghilev in Transnistria.
    And an uncle and aunt too. The spirit of Giraldi’s texts is the same as I find in the Romanian Nazi newspapers from 1940-1941.”

    1.You do know that Nuland-Kagan personally was collaborating with neo-Nazis in Kiev as a representative of the US State Department in the course of regime change there: https://consortiumnews.com/2015/07/13/the-mess-that-nuland-made/ http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/clintons-hawk-in-waiting/
    2. You do know that Ukrainians hold regularly neo-Nazi parades, same in the Baltic states; such insults were unthinkable under the Soviets but allowed under the Kiev regime installed by the State Department (not a peep from ADL):
    http://defendinghistory.com/category/neo-nazi-and-pro-fascist-marches =ttps://www.geopolitica.ru/en/article/western-silence-20000-neo-nazis-march-ukraine https://www.timesofisrael.com/thousands-march-to-honor-nazi-collaborator-in-kiev/
    3. You know that Chrystia Freeland, the Canada’s Minister of Foreign Affairs and a friend of the US neocons, is a proud progeny of Nazi collaborator and a supporter of Kiev regime: https://consortiumnews.com/2017/02/27/a-nazi-skeleton-in-the-family-closet/ Her grandpa was active in Nazi newspapers and he was keen on getting Jewish properties
    4. You know that an Israeli citizen Kolomoysky has been an active supporter, and financier, of Ukrainian neo-Nazis (see Azon battalion involved in Odessa auto-da-fe of civilians, including a pregnant woman). Kolomoysky is also a pillar of Ukrainian Jewish community. http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/05/05/in-the-battle-between-ukraine-and-russian-separatists-shady-private-armies-take-the-field/
    5. You know that the US ziocons had been the most active promoters and cheerleaders of the illegal Iraq war that has eventually spilled over to Libya and Syria. The war have resulted in some 4 million (4.000.000) civilian victims in the Middle East, including thousands and thousands of children.

    If you care about the memory of the WWII, you should look at and criticize the instigators of the wars of aggression instead of attacking a messenger. Check PNAC and Oded Yinon plan. Listen to Israeli brass that support ISIS over sovereign Syria.

  370. Skeptikal says:
    @Edward Huguenin

    Dual citizenship should not be allowed.
    Each of these lawmakers should be obliged to give up either his/her seat in Congress or Israeli citizenship. And, they should not get their big pensions, etc., when they leave office. At the very least they should recuse themselves when any vote comes up that concerns Israel in any way.
    And they should constantly be called out on their lack of loyalty to the USA, to which they swear an oath. It is a bad joke that American citizens are being forced to in effect sign loyalty oaths to Israel where we have dozens of legislators who are disloyal to the United States.

    • Replies: @Anon
  371. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Haarez is able to mention the “unmentionable:” https://israelpalestinenews.org/israel-secretly-using-u-s-law-firm-fight-bds-activists-europe-north-america/ “The Israeli government has been secretly using a U.S. law firm to help it fight the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement in Europe, North America and elsewhere, according to documents obtained by Haaretz. The government has hired the Chicago-based firm Sidley Austin to prepare legal opinions and handle court proceedings. The Justice Ministry and the Strategic Affairs Ministry have declined to reveal the nature of these activities, for which the state has paid hundreds of thousands of dollars over the past two years. The ministries call the activities “diplomatically extremely sensitive.”

    Meanwhile, both Jewish and non-Jewish Israel-firsters are happy to sell out the US Constitution: https://iak.salsalabs.org/blog110117/index.html?wvpId=70037b9e-8da1-4a99-8159-07fb36ef3d4f “Maryland, Wisconsin become 23rd, 24th US states to bar or condemn anti-Israel BDS movement. The governors of Maryland and Wisconsin have issued executive orders promoted by the Israel lobby against boycotting Israel…”

  372. geokat62 says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Perhaps you would like to fit in to your analyses my experience of going to Sweden with a well known Jewish tour leader…

    Hey, Wiz. Not sure of the veracity of what your tour leader told you, but the information I provided about Sweden’s multiculturalism was all sourced from a book, How Sweden Became Multicultural: The Hidden Agenda, The Process, The Lobbyists

    The book is rather brief, 100 pages, and worth the price (under $10)

    A worthwhile read. I highly recommend it.

    https://www.amazon.com/How-Sweden-Became-Multicultural-Eckehart/dp/9188667146

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  373. @lavoisier

    While preparing his book, “The New Dealers War,” historian Thomas Fleming spent several days as a house guest of former-president Harry Truman, and also researched the voluminous diaries of FDR’s vice president Henry Wallace.

    Fleming learned that

    “FDR’s recognition of Soviet Russia back in 1933, led him to feel he was locked in. Roosevelt was a man who never wanted to admit he’d made a mistake. That’s in Henry Wallace’s diary and other diaries. And he felt locked into this connection with the Soviet Union, and he absolutely just didn’t want to admit that there was anything wrong with anything they did.

    One of the most glaring examples of this is the Kaytn massacre . . . a story that exploded in 1943.
    The Germans found in the Kaytn Forest in eastern Poland the bodies of 9,000 Polish officers that had been murdered, they said, by the Russians. The British created a commission to study this, because they had the Polish government in exile in London and they had to do something.
    And they concluded that the Russians did it, that these men had been murdered by Stalin’s order. But they could not get Roosevelt to read this report. He just simply ignored it. He just didn’t want to hear about it.

    And when one of FDR’s top intelligence people, a man named George Earl, a Navy officer .. . . stationed in Ankara, Turkey. . . .who was really able to get all kinds of intelligence out of the Balkans and Central Europe. He became convinced that Kaytn was a Stalinist crime.
    He came home and told Roosevelt this toward the end of the war, and Roosevelt said, `It’s German propaganda. I don’t want to hear anything about it.’

    When Earl said, `I want to publish an article to alert the American people to the kind of ally we have,’ Roosevelt issued a written order saying, `You are still a member of the US Navy and I forbid you to say one word about this.’ And the next day, Earl was transferred to Samoa for the rest of the war.

    We never did hear anything about the Kaytn massacre, anything worth mentioning. And there were a few Polish-American radio stations who tried to broadcast information about it. They were visited by the FBI and told, `If you don’t want to lose your license, you’re going to stop saying this.’ http://www.c-span.org/video/?164982-1/book-discussion-new-dealers-war

    —-
    Paul Hollander wrote a 760-page volume titled “From the Gulag to the Killing Fields: Personal Accounts of Political Violence and Repression in Communist States.” The first 300+ pages cover Eastern Europe — Soviet Russia, Poland, East Germany, Hungary, etc. Hollander spent ten years seeking a publisher before ISI Books took on the project in 2006. The book is a collection of first-person accounts of persecutions, repressions, imprisonments, show trials, coerced confessions including torture endured at the hands of Communists, including, in the case of the East European chapters, Soviet Russia — Bolsheviks.

    The pages are graphic and difficult reading.
    These crimes were committed, and millions of people were killed by Bolsheviks, before Hitler came to power and before FDR made the decision to ally the American people with Stalinist Russia.

    But what is totally mind-blowing is that Jewish authors like Benjamin Ginsberg, who teaches at one of the USA’s most prestigious universities, boasts of Jewish collaboration with Stalinist Russia, to the extent that half-a-million Jewish men fought with the Soviet army, and boasts that Jews were a major influence in persuading FDR to ally with Stalin.

    David Turner is an ardent Zionist who made aliyeh to Israel in 1960 and has written a series of articles published in Jerusalem Post. In
    The Acquiescence of this [USA] Government in the Murder of the Jews, Turner wrote:

    ” Congress . . . enjoy[ed] broad popular support from an American populace overwhelmingly antisemitic, was always available to support the president’s assertion of “powerlessness” [to rescue Jews].  . . How would the Jews have fared had Roosevelt lost the 1940 election? . . .

    The two most popular and charismatic figures on the American scene during those years were Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh. Both had been considered as potential presidential candidates, and both were antisemites and admirers of Hitler. With public sentiment strongly isolationist and opposed to involvement in the European war it was possible that either man as president would have kept the U.S. out of the war. But the United States also feared communism. A President Lindbergh might have sat out the European war. But would he have resisted an alliance with Hitler in a crusade against Communist Russia?”

    Which raises a very puzzling question: In 1918 – 1919 Woodrow Wilson dispatched troops to defeat Bolshevism; the initiative failed. But Communism was perceived to be an enemy of the American way.

    Between ~1928 and 1934 more or less, Communist Bolsheviks slaughtered millions of their own people.

    Cora Sol Goldstein explains in “Capturing the German Eye” that the US army of occupation had to calibrate its psychological warfare against the German people to counter the inroads of Stalinist Communists on the other side of Berlin; Communism was perceived to be an enemy of the American way.

    In 1946, Winston Churchill alerted the world to the danger of Communist Russia. Communism was, until 1989, an enemy of the American way.

    Yet in 1933 Franklin Roosevelt allied the American people with Bolshevik Russia and partnered with Stalin to wage war against the one army in Europe committed to vanquish Bolshevik Russia.

    How did that gap occur in the timeline of the United States’s adversarial relationship with Communist Russia?

    Benjamin Ginsberg supplies the answer in “How the Jews Defeated Hitler”

    War was declared against Germany, by Jews, in March 1933, against the overwhelming wishes of the American people, the American Congress, and the American Department of State.

  374. @iffen

    That’s a fact question, iffen, not a matter of opinion.

    Do you prefer not to create a Venn diagram to identify who is Jewish, who is non-Jewish, who is a warmonger and who is not a warmonger?

    • Replies: @iffen
  375. @geokat62

    Thanks. It wasn’t the tour leader but, I think, a right wing nationalist politician or maybe a former Malmö resident.

  376. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    As a Muslim I am amazed how this thread has developed. Talha is absolutely correct about the Talmuds is not representative of Judaism. Just like the hadiths collected by Bukhari, Muslim and so forth are not representative of Islam.

    Lots of Muslims are not even subconsciously aware that the Original Arabic Quran is not in the Chronological order. Guess what? Stories lose their meanings, unless …..

    But coming back to Bible which consists of TaNaKh (Old Testaments) and New Testaments is considered the True Word of God. It is the Christians who accepted the Small Insignificant Tribe (SIT) being chosen people of God. Since then, the rest of Humanity is still paying the price.

    BTW, I am not anti-SIT (Small Insignificant Tribe) and being a Semite, I cannot call myself anti-Semite too.

    As far as languages are concerned, even Jesus didn’t converse in Hebrew. He conversed with his disciples in Aramaic. I say Hebrew was a dead language, but my Jewish friend corrects me, no it was not dead, it was dormant.

    Though, he agrees with me that Hebrew was revived around 18th Century from Arabic.

    Now to the miracle of the Quran. Till today the Modern (Old, Old) Arabic is written without vowels. Quran was the first document written in Proper Grammatical Arabic, which is called The Classical Quranic Arabic and taught at the University level to all students (Muslim and non-Muslims) who are trying to become linguistic in Arabic. In schools Modern (Old, Old) Arabic is taught.

    Therefore the Whole TaNaKh (Old Testaments) DID NOT contain vowels, and it had inserted in it from the Holy Quran from 12th to 15th Centuries. Till today, Jews write God as G-d.

    Now to YHWH Elolim, when we insert vowels in YHWH, it becomes Ya’Huwa Elohim meaning, O’ He Elohim.

    If God had a name like Yahweh and Allah, then He will become the Property of Jews and Muslims respectively. BTW, I am the property of God.

    eloh and ilah (al ilah allah) is same word. One can make a plural of eloh, but not allah. Has anyone wondered how many ways one can write Mohammad in English. WHY? Trying to fit 3 vowels of Arabic into 5 vowels of English. When I told an American, Arabic doesn’t have Pronouns, he was surprised, and then I told him that English has 6 Pronouns and Arabic has 14 Pronouns, he was about to hit. I was and I am serious there are no Pronouns in Arabic.

    I asked him to show me the Pronouns in the following sentence:

    eli, eli lama sabachthani

    I have written the whole sentence in small letters as there are no big letters in Arabic. When I told this to my Jewish friend that there are no big letters in Hebrew, he got offended and said that Hebrew is written in All Capital Letters.

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  377. Wally says: • Website

    said:
    “My grandfather and grandmother died of disease in 1942, in the camp of Moghilev in Transnistria.”

    “Disease”? Perhaps.
    Would be interesting to see confirmation of even that.

    However, the fake claims about Mogilev being and “extermination” site are blown apart here:

    Italian scholar Mattogno demolishes “extermination camp” Mogilev

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7055

    “An excellent piece which clearly proves that Jews were resettled in the east, not ‘exterminated.”

    Thanks.

    http://www.codoh.com

  378. Wally says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    said:
    ” … stories of Zionists in the 30s and 40s preventing Jews escaping to anywhere but Palestine …”

    “Story” indeed.

    There was no plan of extermination to “escape” from. And no one has / can show us one.

    “we’ve often fantasized about drawing up an indictment against Adolf Hitler himself. And to put into that indictment the major charge: the Final Solution of the Jewish question in Europe, the physical annihilation of Jewry. And then it dawned upon us, what would we do? We didn’t have the evidence.”

    - “holocaust historian” Raul Hilberg

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  379. @Talha

    Wow! That was an audibly pleasing video – even though I don’t understand Arabic, the lyrics appear melodic. Is all of the Quran meant to be read in such a musical way? There appears to be phonetic rhyming in the text – or maybe that is how it sounds to my western ears. Do you have more?

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @RobinG
  380. MEexpert says:
    @iffen

    You know as well as I do that prohibition of polygamy in America is something that you should be thankful for along with me and all real Muricans.

    Of course, I am very grateful to the prohibition. I can’t have four wives but I can have multiple girlfriends or other extra-marital affairs. This way, when I get tired of one of them, I can dump her and not have to pay anything to support her. All the fun and no responsibility. What is there not to dislike the law.

  381. @iffen

    What is questionable is if that is all that you have to say and you say it every day.

    I hope that he and others continue to say it every day until such time when the facts on the ground change. While lamenting the status quo will not directly effect change, each day more people are enlightened, and one day when the critical mass is reached, change will follow.

    Until then, let the preacher preach the gospel.

  382. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    That’s a fact question, iffen, not a matter of opinion.

    There are no “facts”, only opinions.

    Who is a neo-Nazi?
    Who is a Zionist?
    Who is a Jew?
    Who is a warmonger?
    Who is a Patriot?

    The answers to these (and other) questions will differ among people.

    But for our purposes, I have the opinion that self-identified Jews are currently well represented in the warmonger group (not having a complete list). I say currently because we seem to never have had a shortage of warmongers, even when we were not blessed with an ample supply of dem Jews.

  383. @Anon

    It’s probably true that most Jews are only vaguely aware of the unseemly contents of the Talmud and would be mortified if they had to confront them. It’s also true that if there were passages even remotely as inflammatory in a Christian (or Muslim) religious document, we’d hear no end of it.

  384. Pat Enery says:
    @whyamihere

    The Judaism of the Old Testament? They were Israelites. 12 tribes of which Judah was but one. We hear about Judaism after the Babylonian Captivity. By then, they were well indoctrinated in the practices of their captors. Isn’t that why their holy book is called the Babylonian Talmud? Jesus himself condemned the Oral Tradition heresy. Isn’t that why they write such filth about Him? Perhaps you have not read the New Testament. A true Israel would consist of all 12 tribes & certainly would not have stolen land & murdered like the false entity that exists today. Remember, they call themselves the Jewish state of Israel. An oxymoron. Perhaps you should read the Talmud. It has been translated by many luminaries like Martin Luther. Condensed versions are available in many languages. You can understand what they are about by reading their filth as regards Jesus, Mary, Christians, & ALL gentiles. It is no wonder they try to hide it. It is this philosophy that has you hoodwinked.

  385. @Anon

    Don’t be silly. The 25th of December is when “God’s Sun” is born again (rises) after dying (reaching it’s lowest point) on the cross of the zodiac. Easter is when the Sun’s power overcomes the darkness and light sensitivity triggers living creatures to come into oestrus, hence easter. Christianity is a pagan religion repackaged. Jesus wouldn’t recognise or accept modern Christianity, not that he’s coming back ever.

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  386. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Thanks so much for the heads up.

  387. Che Guava says:
    @Durruti

    Durutti,

    Since you were replying to me, I would believe Mr. Giraldi.

    The two I lost (possibly three) were on the China article and some drunken thing partly about overpopulation and other things, it was offensive at the end (though neither threatening nor obscene), but I don’t believe it was deleted.

    If you look at replies to Mr. Giraldi’s recent articles on Israeli influence, you will seeing sharp spikes in numbers of comments relative to the usual.

    If there were a policy to deleting certain types of post as you are saying, for example, half of those from Priss and most from nsa would be gone.

    On lighter notes, I was reading on the train this morning of Kushner’s attempt to profiting from buying 666 Fifth Avenue in Noo Yawk.

    So he must imagining himself to be Damien Omen. Even having a slight resemblance to the actor who was playing adult Damien.

    Someone needs to make a collage of the background of a frame from Omen II, Kushner, the building, address plate of the building, and a suitable slogan. Even ‘Jared Kushner, 666 Damien Omen’ would work.

    Would do it myself, but have too many other things to do.

    Excuse the long reply, but I am genuine curiosity: why are you using Durutti as your u-name? Am familiar only with the Spanish left-anarchist of that name.

  388. Ace says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    The Puritans were a Calvinist phenomenon who arose in 16th-c. England and agitated for abolition of the episcopacy and other practices not specified in the Bible. They weren’t stern but “sticklers” about what the Bible said, as evidenced by the controversies over vestments, Sunday sports, and bishops. The Anglicans, not unreasonably, thought anything should be allowed unless prohibited by scripture.

    The Puritans did not advocate a split with the Church of England as the hard core Pilgrims did. The Plymouth Brethren were a 19th-c. Irish phenomenon with nothing to do with the Plymouth rocksters. Puritans arrived in Salem fully formed in 1630.

  389. Z-man says:
    @iffen

    Now they are defiling “our” women.

    Have been since Christ.

    Seriously, what are the odds that a powerful Hollywood executive will be Jewish?

    You mean they OWN Hollywood? How anti-Semitic of you!

    “You are just shooting fish in a barrel now.” Ahh, if it could be that easy.

  390. Ace says:
    @Anonymouse

    The stern part I think has been unfairly stuck on the Puritans. Wasn’t bundling a Puritan practice? And women would complain in church that their husbands were not paying them attention sexually.

    Winthrop didn’t want people in the Colony who didn’t have a testimony but those who didn’t were merely invited to go elsewhere. Anne Hutchinson was a real disturber but was only banished and excommunicated. The Salem witch hysteria had nothing to do with Puritan scriptural interpretation. James I himself, no Puritan, wrote a book about witchcraft, belief in which was widespread. Sometimes I wonder myself if it accounts for the betrayal of Western elites or the stupidity of Western whites. Or . . . .

    • Replies: @Millennial
  391. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Skeptikal

    The US government’ direct collaboration with Ukrainian neo-Nazi has soured but not extinguished: http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/11/volker-in-kiev-will-american-ultimatums.html
    “Volker and Poroshenko’s talks were held against the backdrop of Saakashvili’s unfolding Madain, which in fact harbors in its depths a very real, very Nazi Maidan, and is 100% a creation of the US. … In order to prevent a Nazi revolution from engulfing Ukraine, a new, big escalation in Donbass is needed. To preserve the Ukrainian army, Kiev needs to prolong the current situation of “neither war nor peace.” Kiev and the US have apparently opted for the second scenario.
    … Volker also promised Ukraine the US’ aid in returning Ukrainian territory, i.e., Crimea, and promised to force Russia to drop the Nord Stream 2 project, whose launch would deprive Kiev of transit revenue of around two billion dollars a year.”

    Mr. Volker [the US State Department’s Special Representative for Ukrain] has been pimping the ziocon plans as they were expressed in PNAC. The policy of “neither war nor peace” was borrowed from Israelis, of course. What else should we expect from the dual-citizens-occupied Congress.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  392. geokat62 says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    I’m glad Phil does what he does, and I wish him the rewards of long life and ariete for doing so.

    Hey, S2C. I was intrigued by the use of the word “ariete.” Care to explain its meaning? I looked it up and all I could find was an Italian translation for “battering-ram.”

  393. Skeptikal says:
    @Anon

    “Volker also promised Ukraine the US’ aid in returning Ukrainian territory, i.e., Crimea, and promised to force Russia to drop the Nord Stream 2 project, whose launch would deprive Kiev of transit revenue of around two billion dollars a year.”

    Of course the constant shenanigans with Ukraine—including not paying hteir bills, stealing gas, and creating huge political problems with Europe—are the main drivers for Nord Stream 2.
    So, it is kind of funny, actually. Volker presumably is totally ignorant of the history of Ukraine-Russia relations surrounding the big pipelines that run through Ukraine. Pipelines through Ukraine have been an ongoing huge headache for Russia, regardless of the good deals that Russia has consistently offered Ukraine.

    https://eegas.com/fsu.htm

  394. @geokat62

    I looked it up and all I could find was an Italian translation for “battering-ram.”

    So did I, and all I could find was:

    The C1 Ariete is the main battle tank of the Italian Army, developed by a consortium formed by Iveco-Fiat and Oto Melara . The chassis and engine were produced by Iveco, while the turret and fire-control system were supplied by Oto Melara. The vehicle carries the latest optical and digital-imaging and fire-control systems, enabling it to fight day and night and to fire on the move.

  395. Talha says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Hey C&D,

    The Qur’an itself commands that it be read in a beautiful and eloquent way; so yes, most reciters will embellish the reading. There are national recitation competitions held all over the world.

    The rhyming is very deliberate. It is in poetic form and meter. The chapters revealed in Makkah were often quite short and very poetic and melodic. The chapters in Madinah are longer and, even though lack a lot of rhyming, are also recited in a beautiful tone. This makes much of the Qur’an very, very easy to memorize; I have around 60 pages memorized and my daughter has around 160 (out of around 600).

    Here is another sample from the same young man (Chapter: The Night):

    Another from another reciter (Chapter: The Cleaving Asunder):

    And yes, this is how it is recited within the prayer itself:

    Now, this is a skill someone has to work at (rarely does it come naturally) and not everyone is so gifted. One of my teachers, who is a capable young mufti, would make me cringe when he recited; he was a good jurist – but reciter? Not so much.

    I happen to be very fortunate, the mosque I attend has some excellent reciters that lead prayer.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
    , @Art
  396. @geokat62

    Care to explain its meaning? I looked it up and all I could find was an Italian translation for “battering-ram.”

    Ya, that works, doncha think? Phil Giraldi is an Italian battering ram.

    – but what I was trying to get at is the Greek notion of virtue, excellence. I might have misspelled it but I did so deliberately — I liked the “ariete” spelling better because it DID suggest Italian effectiveness & demolishing barriers..

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arete_(moral_virtue)

    Arete (moral virtue)

    Arete (Greek: ἀρετή), in its basic sense, means “excellence of any kind”.[1] The term may also mean “moral virtue”.[1] In its earliest appearance in Greek, this notion of excellence was ultimately bound up with the notion of the fulfillment of purpose or function: the act of living up to one’s full potential.

    The term from Homeric times onwards is not gender specific. Homer applies the term of both the Greek and Trojan heroes as well as major female figures, such as Penelope, the wife of the Greek hero Odysseus. In the Homeric poems, Arete is frequently associated with bravery, but more often with effectiveness. The man or woman of Arete is a person of the highest effectiveness; they use all their faculties—strength, bravery and wit—to achieve real results. In the Homeric world, then, Arete involves all of the abilities and potentialities available to humans.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  397. L.K says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Wizard of Imbecility attacks again with this gem:

    I note that your second link’s URL mentions Khodorkovsky as if he is Jewish. A mutual friend assures me he is Orthodoc Christian.

    As if he is Jewish? As if, seriously?? You pathetic clown.

  398. Skeptikal says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Not only do Jews control Hollywood, they basically created it.
    Neal Gabler wrote a book about it.

    https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Their-Own-Invented-Hollywood/dp/0385265573

  399. geokat62 says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    … but what I was trying to get at is the Greek notion of virtue, excellence.

    That exact thought had crossed my mind, but I wanted to make sure. Thx

  400. @Greg Bacon

    Coincidentally (out of political correctness) or not (out of significant number of facts talking in favor of the latter), but “9-11”, from the occult point of view, is a complete inversion of “Christmas”=110/9 (- simple ordinal gematria – “a”=1, “b”=2, etc.). Also, what’s the probability of the name of the first victim for such event like recent Las Vegas shooting to be “Jesus” ? The number of similar observations/questions for only worldwide-known events and only in between those two dates goes on dozens. For a bit less known – on hundreds.

  401. @Talha

    Very beautiful – and thanks for the background! I note a reverb to the recitation in this and the previous video. I assume these are caused by the recitations in your domed mosques, and not a synthetic artifact added by the recording studio?

    • Replies: @Talha
  402. RobinG says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Comparative religion scholar Karen Armstrong asserts that the language of the Koran is so perfect and beautiful that it is evidence of divine origin. This is obviously not something discernible in the English translation.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  403. Talha says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Hey C&D,

    thanks for the background

    My pleasure!

    I’m not sure about the source of the reverb in the particular videos – they could have been added (post-recording) in order to simulate the natural acoustics of a mosque with a dome, but that effect is quite present in a large open mosque with a high ceiling and dome – like this one in Turkey (the reciter is a visiting one from Indonesia – yeah the Arabs do not have a monopoly on this art, some of my favorite reciters have come from Bosnia):

    You can even hear the echo on his initial cough.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  404. Art says:
    @Talha

    Talha,

    That young man’s voice was beautiful – emoting something mystical – something ethereal – something touching – something heartfelt. The word themselves were simple – uncalculated – ethical – challenging – yet soothing.

    It is unfair to ask – but how does this lead to ISIS. (The same could be asked of all religions.)

    May I ask – does the deep emotional, spiritual, and communal nature of these prayers lead to or trigger other strong feelings? In today’s world, is being so emotionally close to the mystery of God, debilitating? Does the communal hearing of these touching prayers five times a day, keep one in a permanent state of emotional fervor wrapped around God? Does this lead to a thinking that says, “that all is up to God” – when in our modern world, most all is really up to us. Do the heartfelt words “God willing” hold back the Muslim peoples from entering modernity?

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Talha
  405. @Art

    Art to Talha: “It is unfair to ask – but how does this lead to ISIS?”

    Art,

    Is your question (above) like the one posed to President G.W. Bush, post-9/11, “Why do they (a.k Qaeda) hate us?”

    As you may recall, Representative Ron Paul accurately replied with one (1) word, “Blowback.” *

    Without ZUSA and Israeli (critical) intelligence, military, energy/fuel, and Corporate Media support, ISIS would pose less threat to western civilization than The Symbionese Liberation Army.

    Thanks, Art!

    * To geokat62: Is there any evidence available that links POTUS candidate Ron Paul to The Lobby?

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Art
  406. geokat62 says:

    Our worst fears are coming true. The Lobby has dusted off the playbook they developed for the Iraq War and they have simply replaced the letter “q” with the letter “n.”

    Do you recall how soon after 9/11 stories were coming out alleging Saddam had ties to al-Qaeda? Well, according to this communication from The Israel Project (TIP), so does the Islamic Republic of Iran:

    Newly Released Bin Laden Papers Confirm Iran, Al Qaeda Allied as Enemies of America

    The CIA has released thousands of documents and other files recovered from Osama bin Laden’s compound in Pakistan, when the terrorist leader was killed, providing “invaluable insights” into the terror group’s operations, and confirming previous reporting on its ties to Iran, Thomas Joscelyn and Bill Roggio of the Long War Journal reported Wednesday.

    While the authors acknowledge that it will take years for “experts and researchers to comb through this treasure trove of information,” they offered some “preliminary observations” of the material they have reviewed.

    Though ties between al-Qaeda, the Sunni terrorist organization, and Iran, the Shiite nation that has been designated by the United States State Department as “foremost state sponsor of terrorism,” have been reported previously, they have often been discounted due to their diverging religious philosophies. The latest revelations mentioned by Joscelyn and Roggio confirm that the two collaborated – despite their philosophical differences – motivated by a shared enmity for the U.S.

    An earlier release of papers included a letter in which bin Laden called Iran “our main artery for funds, personnel, and communication, as well as the matter of hostages.”

    In the newly released trove, a senior member of al-Qaeda assessed his organization’s ties with Iran and observed that Iran offered them “everything they needed,” including financing, weapons and “training in Hezbollah camps in Lebanon, in exchange for striking American interests in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf.” In addition Iranian intelligence provided visas for some members of al-Qaeda and offered protection to others.

    P.S. I like the “Enemies of America” part… their deception is breathtaking.

    • Replies: @chris
  407. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Is there any evidence available that links POTUS candidate Ron Paul to The Lobby?

    Did you mean to write “Rand” Paul, instead, Chuck? As far as I know, Ron Paul is as squeaky clean as they come.

  408. @geokat62

    Such is good news geokat62 that Ron Paul did not eat from The Lobby vine.

    Fascinating how he even made it to the presidential “debate” stage, eh? The Jewish Corporate Media even allowed him to quickly answer a few questions!

    Doubt such anomaly will ever happen again.

    Thank you.

    • Agree: geokat62
  409. ritzl says:

    Does anyone have a copy/screenshot of the Dickinson agreement? The VT article cited in this article has been deleted.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  410. anon • Disclaimer says:

    It’s a shame P C Roberts doesn’t allow comments, which would drive readers to his postings.

    This one looks important:

    USA is collecting DNA from Russia, perhaps for the purpose of producing a Russia-specific biological weapon

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/washingtons-barbarity-reaches-new-heights/

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  411. RudyM says:
    @Alden

    This is nonsense. Calvin certainly did not deny the divinity of Christ. “The essence of the one God is simple and undivided, and. . . it belongs to the Father, the Son, and the Spirit; and on the other hand. . . by a certain characteristic the Father differs from the Son, and the Son from the Spirit.”–Calvin’s Institutes, A New Compend, Hugh T. Kerr (ed.). I have a brother-in-law who graduated from Westminster Seminary. Please don’t try to pass off nonsensical claims about Calvinism (which already has many real strikes against it).

    • Replies: @Alden
  412. RudyM says:

    I personally despise Calvinism, but let’s not lie about what Calvin taught.

    Furthermore, contemporary Reformed thinkers have for the most part rejected Christian Zionism, for all their enthusiasm for the Old Testament (which hardly lacks New Testament and even specifically gospel precedent).

  413. RudyM says:
    @Durruti

    Just a thought, but maybe Phil Giraldi doesn’t have much to do with the technical side of the website, you increasingly unhinged psycho.

  414. RudyM says:

    If you can read this and come away claiming that Calvin denied that Jesus was God incarnate, then you must have a more Talmudic/deconstructionist hermeneutic than I can manage:

    [MORE]

    The New Testament teems with innumerable passages, and our object must therefore be, the selection of a few, rather than an accumulation of the whole. But though the Apostles spoke of him after his appearance in the flesh as Mediator, every passage which I adduce will be sufficient to prove his eternal Godhead. And the first thing deserving of special observation is that predictions concerning the eternal God are applied to Christ, as either already fulfilled in him, or to be fulfilled at some future period. Isaiah prophesies, that “the Lord of Hosts” shall be “for a stone of stumbling, and for a rock of offence,” (Isa. 8:14). Paul asserts that this prophecy was fulfilled in Christ (Rom. 9:33), and, therefore, declares that Christ is that Lord of Hosts. In like manner, he says in another passage, “We shall all stand before the Judgment-seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” Since in Isaiah God predicts this of himself (Isa. 45:23), and Christ exhibits the reality fulfilled in himself, it follows that he is the very God, whose glory cannot be given to another. It is clear also, that the passage from the Psalms (Ps. 68:19) which he quotes in the Epistle to the Ephesians, is applicable only to God, “When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive,” (Eph. 4:8). Understanding that such an ascension was shadowed forth when the Lord exerted his power, and gained a glorious victory over heathen nations, he intimates that what was thus shadowed was more fully manifested in Christ. So John testifies that it was the glory of the Son which was revealed to Isaiah in a vision (John 12:41; Isa. 6:4), though Isaiah himself expressly says that what he saw was the Majesty of God. Again, there can be no doubt that those qualities which, in the Epistle to the Hebrews, are applied to the Son, are the brightest attributes of God, “Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth,” &c., and, “Let all the angels of God worship him,” (Heb. 1:10, 6). And yet he does not pervert the passages in thus applying them to Christ, since Christ alone performed the things which these passages celebrate. It was he who arose and pitied Zion—he who claimed for himself dominion over all nations and islands. And why should John have hesitated to ascribe the Majesty of God to Christ, after saying in his preface that the Word was God? (John 1:14). Why should Paul have feared to place
    120
    Christ on the Judgment-seat of God (2 Cor. 5:10), after he had so openly proclaimed his divinity, when he said that he was God over all, blessed for ever? And to show how consistent he is in this respect, he elsewhere says that “God was manifest in the flesh,” (1 Tim. 3:16). If he is God blessed for ever, he therefore it is to whom alone, as Paul affirms in another place, all glory and honour is due. Paul does not disguise this, but openly exclaims, that “being in the form of God (he) thought it not robbery to be equal with God, but made himself of no reputation,” (Phil. 2:6). And lest the wicked should glamour and say that he was a kind of spurious God, John goes farther, and affirms, “This is the true God, and eternal life.” Though it ought to be enough for us that he is called God, especially by a witness who distinctly testifies that we have no more gods than one, Paul says, “Though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth (as there be gods many, and lords many), but to us there is but one God,” (1 Cor. 8:5, 6). When we hear from the same lips that God was manifest in the flesh, that God purchased the Church with his own blood, why do we dream of any second God, to whom he makes not the least allusion? And there is no room to doubt that all the godly entertained the same view. Thomas, by addressing him as his Lord and God, certainly professes that he was the only God whom he had ever adored (John 20:28).

    https://www.ccel.org/ccel/calvin/institutes.iii.xiv.html

  415. @geokat62

    Absolutely, Ron has never endorsed the Lobby’s agenda, but Rand has done his share of bowing and scraping to our Jewish/Israeli masters during a trip he made to the “Holy Land.”

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  416. geokat62 says:
    @ritzl

    It appears that the official City of Dickinson website has replaced the original agreement with an innocuous one-pager.

    That said, this link should take you to an image that shows the offending clause of the original agreement:

    https://goo.gl/images/KzGk1q

  417. Art says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    As you may recall, Representative Ron Paul accurately replied with one (1) word, “Blowback.” *

    Chuck,

    An excellent excellent point – “blowback.” (Thank you, Ron Paul.)

    When a young man sees people of his identity being killed, day in and day out by a superior force – something naturally snaps. He is genetically predisposed to fight and kill himself. Those are the rules of biological nature.

    To solve the problem of terrorism, the American establishment wants to kill more Muslims – that is an obvious fact. Just watch FOX and CNN prescribe using America’s superior impersonal terror. For fifteen years straight, the Jew led deep state establishment, has promised more killing will solve the problem of terrorism. With abandon, they kill terrorist leaders (and the innocents around them) – only to see new leaders take their place, and more angry Muslim masses wanting payback.

    From the Philippines to the western parts of Africa, there are angry young Muslims dreaming of payback.

    Thanks to the US Jews – what is to be our fate.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Only the grownups can change the situation and break the cycle of hate and terror – that is supposed to be us.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  418. @Art

    Art,

    Just like We The Dumb Goyim, Muslims, and Jews, mankind’s fate is on the Creator’s hands.

    For now, Art, you & others might enjoy the You Tube cartoon (below) which projects with satiric-REALISM an anti-racist Hitler.

    (Zigh) Warning to Judah Ben iffen-iffen: The ‘Toon could be hazardous for undeveloped & unwashed minds.

  419. Vinteuil says:
    @Talha

    Peace yourself, Talha.

    That’s just what I thought.

  420. Vinteuil says:
    @Alden

    Alden: DC addresses the Red Cross report in his article.

    Would it just kill you to read that article all the way through?

  421. Wally says: • Website
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Real crimes occur in all wars, by all sides.

    However, you are now an official ‘holocaust denier’. LOL

    How many do thinks were shot?
    Where are thoe massive human remains for your “mass shootings”?

    Remember, the claim is that the “mass shootings” were done in very centralized sites and that Jews know where they are.

    Yet, they cannot actually show us excavations & the remains that they allege.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  422. Vinteuil says:
    @Alden

    “The Red Cross wrote a report right at the end of WW2 that said only about 750,000 civilians of all religions died as a result of the German occupations.”

    Would it just kill you to read David Cole’s article, where he addresses this issue in detail?

    Don’t be stupid. It’s so important not to be stupid.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  423. chris says:
    @Old Jew

    Oh, pa-lease, with the sanctimonious: ‘wowes little old me,’ followed by: ‘Phil’s a nazi!’ (Does this dog-and-pony show of yours work with other audiences ?)

    Listen, in my previous comment, I wasn’t knocking you for being old but only for being a jerk; you may not be able to do much about the first but you can sure change the second. I was specifically refering to crap like this:

    The spirit of Giraldi’s texts is the same as I find in the Romanian Nazi newspapers from 1940-1941.

    and this:

    He seems to care more about “Screw Israel and the Jews” …

    It’s totally ridiculous for you to accuse Phil of generalities when in fact he talks only of specifics: of groups and of people stirring up wars of aggression and providing political and media cover for these operatives.

    But, of course, you know this already, I presume your statement about M&W being “mistaken” referes to them being mistaken for simply bringing the subject of the “Israeli Loby” up.

  424. Vinteuil says:
    @Wally

    yeah, whatever.

    I offered you the chance to choose smart. You chose stupid.

  425. Talha says:
    @Art

    Hey Art,

    It is unfair to ask – but how does this lead to ISIS.

    I consider it a fair question actually. It’s something I have pondered about as well. My guess is that many of these people are simply not interested in this part of Islam nor looking at it holistically. They concentrate on the verses that seem to justify what they want to do and simply ignore the scholars (and the consensus of the past generations) who tell them that this is not allowed.

    Extremist strains are a part of historic Islam and will likely remain so. They split with the majority and go their own way. The Prophet (pbuh) warned us:
    “O people, beware of extremism in religion for those who came before you were only destroyed because of extremism in religion.” – reported in Ibn Majah

    He also warned us from becoming those that are concerned with the outward and do not absorb guidance in the core of our spirits:
    “There will be dissension and division in my nation and a people will come with beautiful words but evil deeds. They recite the Quran but it will not pass beyond their throats. They will leave the religion as an arrow leaves its target and they will not return until the arrows returns to its notch. They are the worst of the creation.” – reported in Abu Dawud

    The great exegete, Imam Ibn Kathir (ra), wrote about the first group of extremists (the Khawarij who killed Companions [ra] without a second thought):
    “If the Khawarij ever gained power, they would corrupt the entire earth, Iraq, and Syria. They would not leave a boy or a girl or a man or a woman, for in their view the people have become so corrupt that they cannot be reformed except by mass killing.”

    I hope we are done with this ISIS business – at least for my lifetime.

    does the deep emotional, spiritual, and communal nature of these prayers lead to or trigger other strong feelings?

    It should, especially during the nights of Ramadan – many tears flow.

    is being so emotionally close to the mystery of God, debilitating?

    Yes – it should debilitate people from sinning and vice; such as running over innocent people with trucks and doing so in His blessed name.

    Do the heartfelt words “God willing” hold back the Muslim peoples from entering modernity?

    This is a good question. My personal feeling is that, I would hope that we are held back from running into the arms of Modernity and its step-child Post-Modernity. Adopting technology and tools with caution is all fine, but Post-modernity is a mindset. And I’m not so sure it is the healthiest of mindsets. Keep in mind, the distilled message of those early poetic chapters of the Qur’an is:
    Mankind, do not let the world distract you from your purpose; you will certainly meet your Lord, so take action to make sure it is a Day of joy and honor and not one of humiliation and regret

    All the rest is details.

    Will (post)Modernity make us lose our connection with God as it has for others? Has any Modern society escaped this trend? If so, what good is it?

    I can only speak for myself based on what I have observed over the years; it seems Modernity has a place for humans, but I am unsure it has room for man.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Miro23
  426. @Philip Giraldi

    Mr. Giraldi,

    Rand Paul puckered up with Netanyahu after his tour bus brought him down the rainy coast from the Sea of Galilee where he gushed over a dual rainbow. They sang songs on the bus including “How Great is Our God” at the Garden of Gethsemane!

    While carrying his father’s unorthodox political legacy as a thorn-in-his-head, Rand “felt out” P.M. Netanyahu about peace prospects and the possibility of Israeli negotiations with an Abbas government and Hamas combo.

    At that point, The Son of Paul was sternly reminded that Hamas wants to wipe Israel off the map, and giving “terrorists” foreign aid money would be bad business for ZUSA.

    Afterward he met with Jerusalem’s mayor and King Hussein of Jordan! Big whoop.

    (Zigh) All this Jew ass-smooch and how many questions did Senator Paul get to answer during the 2016 G.O.P. presidential debate?

    Thank you.

    • Replies: @Avery
  427. @anarchyst

    Totally agree about the celibacy nonsense.

    But I don’t care about Mass being conducted in Latin, nor do most churchgoing Catholics or former Catholics. Just not important (even though I can read some Latin still).

  428. Avery says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    {Rand Paul puckered up with Netanyahu….}

    Hapless Rand was savaged by the Neocon peanut gallery for not sucking up to Nutsoyeyhoo enthusiastically enough.

    https://www.mrctv.org/blog/rand-paul-responds-criticism-his-slow-clapping-netanyahu-s-speech

    [Paul was asked about National Review’s criticism of the “slow clap” on Fox and Friends].

    And of course the US Senator from Kentucky had to scrape and bow and lick Neocon boots to be allowed to live another day as a bootlicker.

    [“You have these gossipy websites who really demean themselves by putting stuff like that out,” Paul said. “I gave the Prime Minister 50 standing ovations, I co-sponsored bringing him here…”]

    This is what Americans have been degraded to.
    The proud American people who defeated the greatest world military power of its time have been reduced to bowing to a foreign leader whose country only exists thanks to America and the largess of the overtaxed and abused American taxpayer.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Miro23
  429. Talha says:
    @Avery

    Yo Avery,

    I actually did not know this took place – my God – that is absolutely incredible! Not only do you have to clap but you have to clap enthusiastically. I can’t imagine the congress of Eisenhower’s time (or even Nixon’s) stooping to such levels.

    Such a sad thing too – his father would have punched back, even in his advanced age.

    Peace.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  430. @RobinG

    so perfect and beautiful that it is evidence of divine origin

    As a non-believing heathen, I can’t accept divine origin, but others probably can. However, I have to concede that even without knowing the language or having any familiarity with Arabic melodies, listening to those recitations evoked a sense of calm and peacefulness which I found very soothing, and I wouldn’t be surprised that it would be conducive to meditation and prayer, and even the euphoric mysticism of the Persian dervishes. That peacefulness reminded me of how Islam is called the religion of peace, and if Quranic recitations are representations of the practices of that religion, then I am inclined to believe it.

  431. @Talha

    I was just curious and didn’t mean to detract from the beauty of the recitation, but being an engineer, I sometimes tend to go off on a tangent down a rabbit hole of minutiae, thereby missing the forest for the trees!

    In my continuous search for random acts of beauty, I thank you for introducing me to a whole new world. I will have to explore this more, as here in the US, this is not an aspect that we often have the luxury to behold, and the marvels of this age-old culture is drowned out by the drama of terrorism and the propaganda of the Israel Lobby and their hate mongers.

    Sincerely grateful.

    • Replies: @Talha
  432. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Israel wants to see Syria destroyed, preferably by the US efforts (dime & limb). Therefore, the thoroughly corrupt and Israeli-occupied US Congress listens to Israel’s desires and refuses to ban the US support for ISIS/Al Qaeda in Syria: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/06/what-does-tulsi-gabbard-believe

    “Gabbard is a member of the House Foreign Affairs and Armed Services committees. But she is still trying to build support for her signature piece of legislation, the Stop Arming Terrorists Act, which would prohibit federal funding for “Al Qaeda, Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, and ISIL, or any individual or group that is affiliated with, associated with, cooperating with, or adherents to such groups.” Its main aim, as Gabbard describes it, is to force the C.I.A. to stop aiding militants in Syria. The current version of the bill has fourteen co-sponsors, eight Republicans and six Democrats, but it has not received a vote. … The United States has been prosecuting a war on terror for more than sixteen years; Gabbard is one of vanishingly few Democratic politicians who are eager to talk about it.”

    The same “realpolitik” has been transparent with regard to the US collaboration with neo-Nazi in Ukraine. Unsurprisingly, the Jewish oligarchs have been the main financiers of Ukrainian neo-Nazis (see Kolomojsky)

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/10/my-entry.html

  433. Art says:
    @Talha

    I can only speak for myself based on what I have observed over the years; it seems Modernity has a place for humans, but I am unsure it has room for man.

    Talha,

    Thanks for the full and fine reply. I believe that we are not far apart in our base thinking. A godless post- modernity is scary. I do believe that one must go with what science shows us – with what science reveals about God’s universe. It is foolish not too. The Catholic Church is still taking heat for Galileo.

    I do not blame Islam for terrorism. I blame circumstances and the nature of youth. When young men see their identity people being kill by a powerful force – it is natural that they fight back. Of course, fighting is not the answer – it should be we, the adults, who take the responsibility to right the ship and bringing peace. Thanks to the Jews and their media, this cannot happen in America.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @MEexpert
    , @Talha
  434. @Wally

    There is doubt that whatever crimes the Germans committed in the East, they were more than matched by the Anglo-Americans and Soviets. There is no reason to mourn Jews shot in anti-partisan actions more than Japanese killed in terror bombing.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  435. Once-upon-a-time whenever Congress was in session Americans would lose one more freedom.

    Now-upon-a-time whenever Congress is in session the Jews gain one more chain to throw around American’s mouths, arms and legs.

    The political culture today is a Jewish affair. The only outsiders invited to the Bar Mitzvah are Sabbath goys like Jerome Powell and Rat Ryan.

    But, at the altar of mammon, where sacrifices to Jewry’s strange gods are celebrated, Jerome and Rat must remain outside the Pale Of International Settlements.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Rurik
    , @Anon
  436. Brother Nathanael,

    I am very pleased to see another appearance here at the U.R.

    I do not know precisely what is a “Sabbath Goy” and one’s being invited to the Bar Mitzvah.

    This is especially important for me as to the case of Jerome Powell and looming appointment to Fed Reserve Chairman. Why would President Bonespur * pick a non-Jew for such a time honored ritual (marquee) position?

    Thank you and God bless you.

    * Thanks to J. St. Clair for coining “President Bonespur.”

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
    , @Miro23
  437. @Vinteuil

    He addresses a 250K number one often sees mentioned, not the 750K claimed here. There’s no doubt conditions in the camps plummeted as the allied bombing intensified (as Cole acknowledges), but there is nothing in any Red Cross document to suggest these were “death camps”.

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
  438. Corvinus says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    “But if the Tower of Babel story is not about the appearance of diverse languages, what is it about; why is it still referenced by Christians…”

    It is referenced by those “Christians” who oppose certain immigrant groups and/or the mixing of the races.

    There is a contradiction here. First, the peoples of the Earth are described, with their various foreign languages.

    “From these the coastland peoples spread. These are the sons of Japheth in their lands, each with his own language, by their families, in their nations … These are the sons of Ham, by their families, their languages, their lands, and their nations … These are the sons of Shem, by their families, their languages, their lands, and their nations.” (Genesis 10:5, 20, 31)

    Then the story of the Tower of Babel has this following incongruous statement.

    “Now the whole earth had one language and few words. And as men migrated from the east, they found a plain in the land of Shinar and settled there.” (Genesis 11:1)

    How do you account for this inconsonance?

  439. geokat62 says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    Hi, Brother Nathanael. Is it ok if I quote this line in one of my future exchanges with Incitatus and others like him who are still in denial?

    The political culture today is a Jewish affair. The only outsiders invited to the Bar Mitzvah are Sabbath goys like Jerome Powell and Rat Ryan.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  440. Rurik says:
    @Alden

    Hi Alden,

    puritans banning of Christmas 400 years ago and the fact that observing Christmas was illegal in the New England puritan states. We wrote nothing about WASPS trying to ban Christmas today.

    the accusation that it is WASPs who’re trying to ban Christmas came from Jake, whose nearly every posts seems to blame everything that the Zionist neocons are doing – on WASPs. Including, absurdly, the contemporary war on Christmas.

    That’s where this whole distraction began. I’m glad to see it fade away, but I was fascinated to hear about the origins of Easter going back to the Pagan goddess of spring and fertility

    Cheers

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Alden
  441. @ChuckOrloski

    A non-jew to head the Fed for the first time – what do we know about Powell? Maybe Trump read Phil’s article…

  442. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    I was fascinated to hear about the origins of Easter going back to the Pagan goddess of spring and fertility

    They don’t*. See here, by an atheist writer: https://historyforatheists.com/2017/04/easter-ishtar-eostre-and-eggs/ .

    *Except possibly the English word. See the relevant passage:

    The etymology seems to trace back to the Indo-European root “*aus-” meaning “to shine” which in turn is the root for the modern English word “east” and a range of cognates referring to “the dawn”, to “shining” and to the “sun”. So “Eostremonath” could refer to an otherwise totally unattested goddess, a goddess not associated with Easter or it could be a reference to the month when the sun shines again as winter gives way to spring. We simply don’t know.

    What’s the picture? Looks like a Tarot card.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  443. MEexpert says:
    @Art

    I do not blame Islam for terrorism. I blame circumstances and the nature of youth. When young men see their identity people being kill by a powerful force – it is natural that they fight back.

    The problem is who defines terrorism. When the US bombs and kills civilians, it is called collateral damage. When the civilians fight back and kill Americans, it is called terrorism. I am not condoning terrorism, I am just trying to explain the problem. Israel, which is the real instigator, sits quietly and smiles while its puppets kill her enemies or get killed themselves.

    Israel’s new boogie man is Iran. The US/CIA is trying their level best to appease Israel by blaming everything on Iran. From Afghanistan to Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and Yemen, the US sees Iran’s hand behind them. Now comes the latest revelation about Iran’s ties to Al-Qaeda. It took them 16 years to finally put the blame on Iran for 9/11, the facts be damned. Not one of the 19 hijackers was Irani. But hey, Israel wants it that way , that’s the way it is going to be.

    Both the Al-Qaeda and ISIS have been killing Shias all over the world and the US wants us to believe that Iran will side with killers of its own people. Unfortunately, as long as the Jewish/Zionist money controls the US politics American blood will continue to be spilt along with the blood of millions of innocent Muslim civilians.

    • Agree: Cloak And Dagger
    • Replies: @Anon
  444. @geokat62

    Hey geokat62,

    I am intrigued by Trump’s selection of a non-thoroughbred Jew as Fed Chairman

    Do not know if you care to focus attention upon this matter, but below is linked a You Tube video of Powell’s articulate address to “The Economic Club of New York” whose membership list I have yet to explore.

    At any rate, & as you’re aware, Brother Nathanael called (Roman Catholic?) Powell a “Sabbath Goy.”

    Although the ZUSA (debt) economy is praised as experiencing record setting growth under President Bonespur, there are SERIOUS economic skeptics, for example, Reagan administration veterans, Paul Craig Roberts and David Stockman.

    It seems to me that, in comparison to the POT(Z)USA, the Fed Chairman job is more of a (limelight) spokesperson for the mighty Jewish Wall Street / International Bankers.

    geokat62 — Perhaps it’s elementary & unnecessary for me to ask, why didn’t President Bonespur select another Jew as Fed Chairman?

    (Zigh) However, I do sense global economic calamity and major theater warfare is at our doorstep. Fed Chairman Jerome Powell a “Sabbath Goy” administrator & astute COMMUNICATOR for planetary hard times to come?

    Thank you, geo!

    Post scriptum: (Zigh) At this rather narrow trail, I actually wish the Debt Maven King would return from Far East business and resume to talking down to U.R. comment participants.

  445. Rurik says:
    @Old Jew

    My grandfather and grandmother died of disease in 1942, in the camp of Moghilev in Transnistria.
    And an uncle and aunt too. The spirit of Giraldi’s texts is the same as I find in the Romanian Nazi newspapers from 1940-1941.

    were the Romanian Nazis telling the truth also?

    let me ask you OJ, does it ever occur to you that maybe, just perhaps, some of the bad things that have happened to Jews throughout history, were brought on by Jewish actions?!

    If a survivor of the Holodomor were to get their hands on Kaganovich, would you blame them for exacting revenge?

    If a Palestinian who lost his home and family to the Jewish terrorists who founded Israel, were to kill some of them on the spot, perhaps the ones living in his house, for instance, would you begrudge him for it?

    Or is it a truism that for a Jew, that every act of murderous treachery they commit against others, is sanctified by their religion- and like Goldman Sachs today, are just doing ‘god’s work’? And that conversely, every act of righteous vengeance that’s exacted upon Jews, (like Bela Kun for instance, or Trotsky)

    were always the act of evil, irrational anti-Semites who hated Jews simply because they were Jewish?

    those Romanian Nazis, as you called them, probably had a choice…

    either side with the Germans, as millions of Russians and Ukrainians and Cossacks and Poles and Norwegians and others did / or suffer living (or more likely dying) under the cruel and sadistic Jews who were operating the ‘gulag archipelago’ in post Tsarist Russia (and Ukraine and everywhere else their demonic grip of hatred and murder was being expressed in suffering, torture and death)

    so, at some point, it becomes incumbent upon a people to start telling the truth about the lies that are responsible for so much death and misery.

    Who doubts that it is Zionist, neocon lies and treachery that have led to over a million deaths of innocent people in the Middle East in this nascent, 21st century, eh ‘old Jew?

    Their lies (and hate and treachery and demonic, murderous rapine) have led to torture, mass-murder, horrific atrocities, the loss of our hard-won freedoms, going all the way back to the Magna Carta. Today their lies have resulted in moral and legal abominations like the NDAA.

    Their lies about 9/11 and Iran and Iraq and Libya and WMD and ‘yellow cake’ and Syria are responsible for literally incalculable suffering and horrors.

    at what point, does telling the truth about these Jewish, neocon, Zionist lies… equate to = ‘making soap and lampshades’, as your comment suggests?

    Jews like you have a tried and true method that they/you have been using.

    if someone tells the truth about Jewish lies and perfidy, you accuse them of being a Nazi (or pellet dropper) and wanting to make soap and lampshades out of Jews and push Ann Frank into an oven.

    This used to silence any criticism of Jewish crimes and terror, but not so much anymore. It’s gotten so overused, that’s it’s become really quite laughable anymore.

    Just like the mass-murdering, genocidal butcher, standing there at the UN, lecturing the world’s leaders on their lack of pandering to his lies, in order to slaughter Iranians and destroy their nation as well

    look at this beyond vile piece of shit, sanctimoniously glowering at the world, for not acting like they believe his lies, while the blood of thousands of Palestinian and Syrian (and so many others) men, women and children are dripping from his Jewish, gnarled murderous hands

    that’s what you remind me of, Old Jew, as you attempt to equate Mr. Giraldi’s honorable and courageous truth telling = to lampshades and soap

    You remind me of grotesque Bibi, sneering at the world for their lack of obeisance to his lies and Jewish, racial supremacism

    as if that genocidal mass-murderer had a shred of moral authority.

    • Agree: Alden, anarchyst
    • Replies: @chris
  446. @Corvinus

    “Most ‘Merkins have neither a clue nor an opinion of the Zionist lobbies, while in fact, most of them, smug “professionals” included, verily fill their shorts at the mere mention of Islam.”

    Most Americans actually have a clue and opinion of “Zionist lobbies”–overstated, overrated, underwhelming.

    Like I said, most don’t have a clue. You certainly add evidence for the claim.

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
  447. @ChuckOrloski

    Post scriptum: (Zigh) At this rather narrow trail, I actually wish the Debt Maven King would return from Far East business and resume to talking down to U.R. comment participants.

    I miss that too, but maybe I’m just bitter. Or envious er sumpin.

    Anyway, debt is good, they say, and besides, we owe it to ourselves. Kroogie sez so and he’s intuitive and likes Hume, and has a Nobel pwize to pwove it! We don’t have to think, all we need to do is read Kroogie!

    Bwaa haa haa haaaw!

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @ChuckOrloski
  448. Alden says:
    @RudyM

    “ There is but one God, and that is the God of Israel”. John Calvin

    That’s what he preached and later revisionism can’t cover up his words.

  449. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    I am intrigued by Trump’s selection of a non-thoroughbred Jew as Fed Chairman

    There’s one more intriguing thing about Powell, Chuck. He is not an economist.

    Excerpt from Who Is Jerome Powell, Trump’s Pick for Fed Chair?:

    One unusual thing about Powell’s appointment is that he is a lawyer, not an economist. From Yellen going back to Alan Greenspan, who started as chair in 1987, all Fed chairs have held a Ph.D. in economics. Alan Blinder, an economist at Princeton, has said that a doctorate has become more or less a prerequisite of the job—without one, he told Harvard Business Review, “the Fed’s staff will run technical rings around you.” While that remains to be seen, it is true that there are over 300 Ph.D. economists on the Fed’s staff, and Powell could end up needing to lean on their expertise more than a Fed chair with a doctorate in economics might. It could also mean that he would be more swayed by arguments made by fellow Fed governors—which could shape the long-term direction of the Fed, because by the time Powell starts his term, a significant number of its positions will also be filled by conservative Trump appointees.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/11/who-is-jerome-powell-fed-chair/544742/

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  450. Rurik says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    goys like Jerome Powell

    I do wonder what he bodes for this country and beyond

    (at least he isn’t Stanley Fischer)

    God bless

    • Replies: @Art
  451. Rurik says:
    @Anon

    What’s the picture?

    it is of Eostre, the spring Goddess of fertility

    http://www.mygodpictures.com/category/goddess-eostre/

    lots of fascinating Gods at that site to peruse

    • Replies: @Anon
  452. I was fascinated to hear about the origins of Easter going back to the Pagan goddess of spring and fertility

    They don’t*. See here, by an atheist writer: https://historyforatheists.com/2017/04/easter-ishtar-eostre-and-eggs/ .

    Sorry. They do. There’s no link from Ishtar to Eostre. “Easter” is an adaptation of “Eostre”, not “Ishtar”. The two mythologies are too far apart. Sorry.

    I wish that atheists wouldn’t spray bullshit with quite the same alacrity as the Xtians and Islamics pump it out. Just to maintain a bit of decorum, ya know?

    • Replies: @Anon
  453. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    I shouldn’t go off on so many tangents.
    What really bothers me about the war on Christmas is that the big retailers Walmart, target etc etc refuse to even use the word Christmas.

    Yet their entire profit for the entire year is made in December. The rest of the year doesn’t even break even sometimes.

    I live in a Jewish neighborhood. So to avoid offending their Princess and the Pea sensibilities don’t use the word Christmas in my neighborhood

    But there are millions of miles in America where there are no Jews so why can’t Target, Macy’s etc use the word Christmas in those areas?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  454. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Old Jew

    You might get old, some day.

    ?? million Russians did not “get old,” they got killed, by Jews like Yagoda and Kaganovich.

    7 million Germans did not “get old,” they got killed, at the instigation, provocation, and direct hand of Jews like Brandeis, Frankfurter, Morgenthau, Kempner, etc.

    How many thousands of Palestinians did not “get old” because Jews stole their lands, businesses, their lives and their children’s lives?

    How many Iraqis did not “get old” because Jews clamored for a war to destroy that country?

    How many Syrians did not “get old” because Jews in Israel thought their country should be shattered?

    How many Americans did not “get old” because Jews exploited their blood and a muscle, and distorted sense of patriotism, to kill Israel’s enemies?

    You don’t have to read Phil Giraldi’s writing — not in this article, anyway; just rest the title:
    “Pandering to Israel Has Got to Stop”
    Despite what the narcissistic voices in your head tell you, Old Jew, Giraldi is not talking to you or to Jews, he’s talking to the American people and their representatives: they are the ones who are “pandering to Israel,” they are the ones whose behavior is within the power, and obligation, of the American people to reform.

  455. Rurik says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Hey Brother Chuck,

    “Sabbath Goy”

    I suspect he meant a Shabbos goy

    which is a servant Gentile who performs certain functions for observant Jews

    much as Powell will be expected to perform

    Peace

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  456. @geokat62

    Hey geokat62,

    “… over 300 Ph D economists on the Federal Reserve staff.”

    Maybe “Old Jew” will chime in here and complain Chairman Jerome Powell is not an economist? (Zigh)

    At any rate, I sense Attorney Jerome Powell is a transition figure for The (Jewish-designated) Asian Century.

    Thank you!

  457. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    Nobel pwize to pwove it!

    lots of people have those

    America dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016. What a bloody end to Obama’s reign

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy


    In 2016, US special operators could be found in 70% of the world’s nations, 138 countries – a staggering jump of 130% since the days of the Bush administration.

    That’s seven majority-Muslim countries.

    there’s that “seven countries” again

    But today’s wars have little or nothing to do with those who attacked the United States on September 11, 2001.

    understatement of the century

    the numbers of civilians killed by Obama’s bombs could be in the thousands. But we can’t know for sure as the administration, and the mainstream media, has been virtually silent about the civilian toll of the administration’s failed interventions.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy

  458. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    Sorry. They do. There’s no link from Ishtar to Eostre. “Easter” is an adaptation of “Eostre”, not “Ishtar”. The two mythologies are too far apart. Sorry.

    Yes, I know. Did you read the article?

    Xtians

    Xians. Jesus Christ, not Jesus Chris.

    I shouldn’t go off on so many tangents.

    Eh, it makes life more interesting.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  459. Rurik says:
    @Alden

    why can’t Target, Macy’s etc use the word Christmas in those areas?

  460. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Interesting site.

    I prefer deviantart or similar sites, because the artists are more clearly credited, but that’s certainly a useful compilation.

  461. USAMNESIA says:
    @whyamihere

    “The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate.”
    Senator Fulbright, 1973

    “We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.”—Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

    Let’s see another opinion from an Israeli philosopher:

    Towards the end of his life, as he watched the occupation of Palestine deepen and expand, the Israeli philosopher Yeshayahu Leibowitz described Israel as “the only totalitarian country in the enlightened world.” He was referring to the way that the Jewish state promoted itself as beacon of liberal democracy while it imposed a brutal, panopticon-style regime of repression on Palestinians, raiding their homes at night, shuttering their media outlets, and torturing them at will. Today, Israel is projecting this regime outwards, recruiting operatives across the West to eradicate all resistance, even attacking constitutionally protected forms of protest. Like the country it has enlisted to defend, a borderless settler-colony that demands special exemption from international law, the lobby’s mission knows no limits. Where the occupation started is well known, but where will it end?

    Why don’t people realize the true impacts of these types of sentiments? Well, let’s consult one of the experts on public “persuasion”

    Edward Bernays, perhaps more than anyone, helped establish the modern system of public manipulation. Drawing on the psychoanalytical techniques of his uncle, Sigmund Freud, Bernays became known as the father of propaganda. His low opinion of the masses is best expressed in his own words. The following is taken from his book Propaganda:

    No serious sociologist any longer believes that the voice of the people expresses any divine or specially wise and lofty idea. The voice of the people expresses the mind of the people, and that mind is made up for it by the group leaders…and by those persons who understand the manipulation of public opinion.If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, is it not possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without their knowing about it? Whatever attitude one chooses toward this condition…we are dominated by the small number of persons who understand the mental processes of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind and contrive new ways to guide the world. Political campaigns today are all sideshows…A presidential candidate may be “drafted” in response to “overwhelming popular demand,” but it is well known that his name may be decided upon by half a dozen men sitting around a table in a hotel room. The conscious manipulation of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.

    So it appears that Zonism is a scam and the separation of the Jewish race from the Palestinians — they share the same three DNA ancestors — is a distortion of reality on a massive scale. Please read Shlomo Sand for his two works on The Invention of the Jewish People and The Invention of the Land of Israel.

    Speaking truth in a time of universal deceit is a revolutionary act.

  462. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Brother Nathanael Kapner

    Neato. Nathaniel Kapner. I’ve always wanted to ask you a question. Here goes:

    If Nazis or neo-Nazis ever took control of the United States, do you think they would spare you from whatever they would do to Jews?

  463. @Old Jew

    My grandfather and grandmother died of disease in 1942, in the camp of Moghilev in Transnistria.
    And an uncle and aunt too. The spirit of Giraldi’s texts is the same as I find in the Romanian Nazi newspapers from 1940-1941.

    and

    @ Rurik

    let me ask you OJ, does it ever occur to you that maybe, just perhaps, some of the bad things that have happened to Jews throughout history, were brought on by Jewish actions?!

    Rurik hit the nail on the head: neither Phil Giraldi nor Americans or even Christians bear primary responsibility for what befell your grandparents; that rests on the fanatical shoulders of Rabbi Stephen Wise and the American Jewish Congress that he created.

    German Jews resisted his fanaticism.

    In 1932, when Wise & the AJC sent a young Jew to Germany to stir up animus toward the growing National Socialist resistance to Bolshevik Communism in Germany, here’s how German Jews responded:

    ” ‘Say to Rabbi Wise that he need not concern himself with Jewish affairs inGermany. If he insists upon dealing with Jewish affairs in Europe, let him occupy himself with Jewish problems in Poland and Rumania.’ ”
    [To which Wise registers this reaction:] “Such was the shortsightedness and even snobbery, for such it was, of the German Jews, on the eve of what was to prove the undoing of a thousand years and more of Jewish life in Germany.”

    Two points:
    I don’t know what was going on with Jews in Rumania; do you?
    I am aware that Jews in Poland were in pitched battle with non-Jewish Poles: Polish leaders were extremely eager to remove Jews from Poland — Polish leaders warned London that they would enact draconian measures if the British continued to refuse to admit Polish Jews.
    Whatever the situation in Rumania was, to the best of my knowledge Germany was not responsible for it.
    That’s Number 1.

    Number 2, Rabbi Wise wrote:
    “Such was the shortsightedness and even snobbery, for such it was, of the German Jews, on the eve of what was to prove the undoing of a thousand years and more of Jewish life in Germany.”

    How did Rabbi Wise know that soon “a thousand years of Jewish life in Germany” would be undone?

    He knew that because he set it in motion. On about Feb. 14, 1933, Louis Brandeis, the “most important Jew in the world in that era” directed Rabbi Wise, that all Jews must leave Germany. Rabbi Wise records this directive in his autobiography, “The Challenging Years.”

    Wise set to work immediately to implement that directive, against the expressed wishes, even pleadings, of German Jews, by, among other things, spearheading an economic boycott of Germany. On Mar 24, 1933, a London newspaper reported on the “war” declared against Germany by “International Jewry,” a war intended to “bring Germany to its knees” and “destroy the export trade upon which Germany’s existence depends.”
    Germany staged a one-day retaliatory boycott against the Jewish boycott, on April 1, 1933

    Apparently responding to that one-day German boycott of Jewish businesses in Germany, Wise notes in his letters that “L.D.B.” — Louis D. Brandeis “was more bitter about the boycott, saying the economic extermination of 600,000 is worse than Pogroms involving 60 lives.” (Wise, “Letters,” p. 220).

    Astonishing, isn’t it, that someone as smart as Brandeis is bruited to have been, failed to connect cause-and-effect.
    W. H. Auden understood the dynamic:

    You and I and the people know
    What all schoolchildren learn:
    Those to whom evil is done
    Do evil in return.

    Not to belabor the thing, but just to emphasize the facts:
    – The Jewish economic war against Germany perdured from March, 1933 until late 1940;
    – German retaliatory boycott lasted one day, April 1, 1933.

    And just in case you missed the point, Old Jew, Brandeis was less concerned about “pogroms [in Rumania]” than the loss of commercial activity in Germany, a situation that came about at his direction.

    Now that you’ve finished M&W, check out what Jewish leaders did to bring about — or fail to prevent — your grandparents’ distress in Rumania.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  464. @Rurik

    Brother Rurik,

    Assume “Shabbos goy” must also serve the U.S.-based elite and powerful secular Jews who want to smash the Islamic Republic of Iran and create Greater Israel.

    F.Y.I., my favorite Fed-Fink is Alan Greenspan. He served under three (3) post-proclamation of New World Order preZidents, H.W. Bush, Clinton, and G.W. Bush.

    Peace be with you and thanks for making response.

  465. Talha says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Hey C&D,

    You are most welcome – I’m very happy to share these things actually, so thanks for asking.

    It is a shame that some of the beautiful parts of Islamic culture that everyone can appreciate* get drowned out by the current conflicts

    Peace.

    *Personally, I consider this a part of world heritage – just like I can come to appreciate the ancient Chinese architecture or chanting by Gregorian Monks.

  466. @SolontoCroesus

    Hey S2C,

    Valuable information provided on Rabbi Wise and Louis Brandeis. Thank you!

    One matter.

    Did you ever read (Catholic) Pole Jan Karsky’s book, “The Story of the Secret State.”

    As a key member of the Polish resistance, & under disguised entry into Auscwitz, he gave testimony as to barbaric Nazi actions taken against Jews. Including hot shot Nazi guards taking pot shots at unarmed, sick & frail Jewish prisoners.

    Post-WW 2, the patriotic Jan Karsky came to America and became a Georgetown U. professor. Today, a beautiful memorial statue of Karsky appears on campus.

    Soon however, the Jews took over his legacy and a recent work of “history” presents Karsky’s mother and her indoctrinating Jan with motivational lessons from the Torah.

    Uh… what else is new?

    Thanks again for regularly offering such documented comments.

  467. Talha says:
    @Art

    Hey Art,

    I do believe that one must go with what science shows us – with what science reveals about God’s universe.

    I agree here; the problem I see is where the proponents of science step into the realms where they have no business and likewise the proponents of religion trying to make scientific claims. Both have their benefit to mankind and their their respective purview.

    Keep in mind, we never had a Galileo moment in our history so the experiences are very different in this regard. Many of our Muslim scholars were also polymaths that were scientists, cartographers, astronomers, physicians, etc.

    I blame circumstances and the nature of youth.

    Ali ibn Abi Talib (ra) reported: “I heard the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, say, ‘In the last days, there will be young people rebelling with foolish dreams. They will say the best of words but they will go out of Islam just as an arrow goes through its game. Their faith will not go beyond their throats. So if you meet them in battle, then fight them because whoever fights them will have a reward on the Day of Resurrection.’” – reported in both Muslim and Bukhari

    When the youth give up the wisdom and guidance of their elders, then these sort of problems arise.

    Of course, fighting is not the answer – it should be we, the adults, who take the responsibility to right the ship and bringing peace.

    Absolutely. There is a time and circumstance for fighting in an honorable and limited way – this lashing out at anything and everything in complete violation of the sacred law, simply because one is frustrated that the world isn’t running the way one wants it to, should be completely rejected.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Art
  468. Art says:
    @Rurik

    goys like Jerome Powell

    I do wonder what he bodes for this country and beyond

    Don’t think for a minute that Trump made this decision on his own – he got a Big Jew bankster OK.

    Me thinks the Big Jews have major financial correction on their mind (within years) – and they do not want a Jew to take responsibility for the crash.

    The result will be that they will take private ownership of many mega large US corporations.

    Their US dollar is losing its attraction and value – block-chain is rising – they intend to swap their dollar holdings into actual ownership of production on the cheap.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Rurik
  469. To All,

    An increase of Japan “pandering to Israel” underway? Refer to link below? To paraphrase Tom Waits’ rather comical song lyric, “The Kushner’s are big in Japan.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5046623/Ivanka-Trump-wears-kimono-inspired-dress.html

    • Replies: @anonymous
  470. Meimou says:

    It’s not my job to defend Israel, supposedly they have groups for that purpose

    Lol. Yeah, supposedly.

  471. Vinteuil says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    “…there is nothing in any Red Cross document to suggest these were ‘death camps’.”

    According to David Cole, that’s because “Germany never gave the Red Cross access to its Eastern camps and ghettos.”

    Do you know better?

    http://takimag.com/article/how_many_jews_can_be_gassed_on_the_head_of_a_pin_david_cole/print#ixzz4xOrSnKSh

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  472. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    oh please

    what Ivanka is wearing is a kimono like a skateboard is a Porsche.

    Kimono are designed/constructed to turn the female figure into a column — obi smooths curves from breasts over abdomen to hips.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @chris
  473. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Talha

    we never had a Galileo moment in our history

    Galileo never had a Galileo moment either. His problem was that he got into flame wars with pretty much everybody he ever encountered, and that he supposedly made fun of the current Pope, who was by then his only remaining friend, in his famous book On the Two World Systems. And his facts were wrong, ludicrously so on tides.

    Plenty of Muslim philosophers landed in various kinds of trouble for various reasons, including iirc Avicenna and Averroes. Not that this proves anything about Muslim hostility to science or any such silly thing.

    • Replies: @Talha
  474. If Israel falls the remains will come here. You want that? I don’t.

    Israel does not want to fight to win, but rather to suffer to gain internal support.

    I would sure feed that to keep them in place.

  475. Art says:
    @Talha

    Talha,

    Pardon my sarcasm – but ISIS’s two ace terrorist recruiters are Lindsey Graham and John McCain. After fifteen years of war, they still unashamedly want to kill more Muslims. On all sides, their daily warmongering jingoism is music to hateful ears.

    If you want to radicalize Muslim youth in America, just unchain congressman Peter King for five minutes on Fox Jews – doing one of his free campaign infomercials – spouting hate and fear – demanding more death – calling people craze for wanting peace – and kissing Jew hinny. (My’ what that one will do to get elected!)

    What disgusting revolting people. They all cave to Jew interests.

    Think Peace — Art

  476. @anonymous

    anonymous: “what Ivanka is wearing is a kimono like a skateboard.”

    (Sigh)

    Frustrated words of The Christ to disciples: “You judge by appearances.”

    (SIGH)

    My, my… how I long for the return of The Maven Shama and even Judah Ben iffen-iffen.

    • Replies: @chris
  477. Talha says:
    @Anon

    Avicenna and Averroes. Not that this proves anything about Muslim hostility to science or any such silly thing.

    Correct – they got into trouble over their heterodox philosophical claims – but not much. If I recall correctly, Ibn Sina was imprisoned for political reasons (pissing off the local ruler by trying to skip town to a better paying one). Imam Ibn Rushd (ra) was put under house arrest for a bit too and that definitely seems connected to his philosophy. Men like Ibn Bajjah did go to prison or got exiled, but usually found another patron somewhere else. Their works remained in circulation though and icited quite a bit of debate – both support and criticism.

    The philosophical positions of both Ibn Sina and Imam Ibn Rushd (ra) – as with al-Farabi, etc. – were publicly debated (often in writings) and defeated by men like Imams Ghazali (ra), Fakhrud-din Razi (ra), Baqillani (ra), etc. The Mu’tazilite school (and similar trends) never had a huge following.

    Incidentally, Imam Ibn Rushd (ra) still remains a go to figure in the Maliki school as a master jurist* – his heterodox views are simply discarded. I can’t think of a Muslim that got into trouble for science or astronomy though.

    Peace.

    *This is a reference guide even for many outside the Maliki school:

    https://www.amazon.com/Distinguished-Jurists-Primer-al-Mujtahid-Civilization/dp/1873938136

  478. @jacques sheete

    Hey Jacques!

    Wherefore art thou? Are you away “on business” like the Trumps and The Maven Shama?

    Just joshing, but as I know you like a good (gallows) laugh every now & then, please listen to the catchy DEBT-tune (linked below), “God’s away on business,” written & performed by my favorite singer / songwriter, Tom Waits?

    Selah The Ship is Sinking The Ship is Sinking!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  479. chris says:
    @geokat62

    As Scott Horton has pointed out, if Iran was the perpetrator, it sure took them long enough (16 years) to get on the “right” track.

    • Agree: Talha
  480. chris says:
    @anonymous

    OMG, what a friggin ditz she is, she thinks she’s a fashion model on tour. No, Ivanka, you’re not in a parallel universe, it’s not about you and your air-headed husband, it’s about your dad, the pres.

    Can hardly wait until Trump goes to Mexico and Ivanka shows up with a poncho and sombrero.

  481. chris says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Sorry Chuck, your first comment I totally disagree with:

    … how I long for the return of The Maven Shama and even Judah Ben iffen-iffen.

    I certainly appreciate the peace and focus of the present threads; be grateful for the little things ! :-)

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  482. RobinG says:

    DANGEROUS LIASONS: ISRAEL & THE CIA

    This 1991 interview with Andrew and Leslie Cockburn is packed with gold and a few (still today, since they’ve been buried) bombshells, (UXB). Also dripping with cynicism, but the mainstream doesn’t permit journalism like this anymore – and the alternative media doesn’t have the necessary funds or access.

    If you’re in a hurry, see -
    @32min.-34min., Meir Amit gets US green light for 1967 attack on Egypt

    @49min. -end, US involvement in Israel’s attack on Lebanon; operation Tipped Kettle, Israel involvement in Honduras; etc.

    Dangerous Liaisons: Israel & The CIA

  483. @Vinteuil

    I wasn’t referring to transit camps like Treblinka; I’m guessing Cole (and you, presumably) doesn’t regard Upper Silesia as “Eastern”. In the public perception, Auschwitz was a “death camp”, even if official historiography is congruent with revisionists in understanding that it’s main function was serving the German war effort.

  484. Somewhat OT, but outstanding comment on related matters here:

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11472

  485. @Ace

    “women would complain in church”

    Women were explicitly forbidden from speaking in church (and sat in church segregated) in 17th century New England.

    Both men and women could, and did, complain to local magistrates if marital duties were not being fulfilled. This was hardly unique.

    Quaker groups allowed women to speak and preach. The Puritans exiled, hanged, whipped, and mutilated Quaker men and women. Eventually, Charles II was moved to tears after seeing mutilated Quakers and issued several Royal proclamations forbidding further violence against them. The Puritans reluctantly, and gradually, complied.

    But, as we all know, the Puritans were proto-feminists.

  486. @Alden

    “the Puritans ignored the goody goody be nice…”

    Yes, to the lay reader, the OT is vastly more conservative and interesting than the NT.

    The “God of Israel” is the “Strict Father” of the Bible. He was just as likely to punish Jews as help or reward them. The OT is arguably more “anti-Semitic” than the NT.

    In the NT, Jesus says “neither Jew nor Greek…” establishing the universalist nature of Christianity, but also says “salvation is of the Jews” – essentially hinting that non-Jewish “believers” should venerate the Jewish people.

    “Puritanical” and other OT-reading Europeans were attracted to the martial and law-enforcing spirit in the OT. The NT was valued primarily for the promises of forgiveness, resurrection, and eternal life.

    “followed the Jewish custom…”

    The Catholic bread and wine (among other rituals) come from Genesis. OT.

    It’s worth noting the correlation between Calvinism and warfare. The 16th c. French Huguenots and Dutch Calvinists were military innovators. The only Calvinist states in early modern Germany also became the most militaristic: Brandenburg-Prussia and Hesse-Kassel.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  487. @Millennial

    (Zigh)

    Hard to swallow how P.G.’s important article comments have descended into “Puritans and other O.T. reading Europeans, French Huguenots and Dutch Calvinists military innovators.”

    Selah Anti-Sexual Harrassment Training for Lobbyotimized Congress, Find the Cost of Freedom, & Honor “The Decider” Dubya’ at West Point!

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  488. Art says:

    How is it that NO one will talk about Israeli nukes — all 7,000,000,000 refuse to talk about the threat that the Jews put on everyone in the world to cause a nuke Armageddon.

    It is time for world sanctions against Israel until they eliminate all their WMDs – nuke, chemical, and biological.

    Think Peace — Art

  489. RobinG says:

    Hi Art,

    At 29min: “…..we discovered [the Israelis] have nuclear landmines seeded on the Golan Heights.”

    This interview from July, 1991, is laced with bombshells: the US pre-approved Israel’s FIRST STRIKE on Egypt in 1967 and their invasion of Lebanon in ’82; Israel’s role in arms sales to Iran; Mossad involvement in Honduras; etc., etc.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?20968-1/dangerous-liaisons

    “The husband-and-wife team of Andrew and Leslie Cockburn discussed their experiences researching their book Dangerous Liaisons, which details collaboration between Israeli intelligence and the CIA and other U.S. intelligence agencies. They amassed documentation from U.S. and Israeli intelligence sources, Israeli press reports, interviews and Hebrew documents.”

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Art
  490. geokat62 says:
    @RobinG

    …the US pre-approved Israel’s FIRST STRIKE on Egypt in 1967…

    But, but, Robin, Sam Shama assured us Dumb Goyim that the ’67 war was started by Nasser, he even has the polls to prove it.

    P.S. Thanks for sharing that clip, very informative.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  491. @ChuckOrloski

    Indeed. Can we go back to discussing how to get all this Israeli pandering to stop? I am hoping that all the sexual perversion exposure that is bringing the Hollywood jewish power brokers in Hollywood down, extends to bring down similar power brokers in our government.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  492. Rurik says:
    @Art

    the Big Jews have major financial correction on their mind (within years) – and they do not want a Jew to take responsibility for the crash

    the bubble will pop

    they have stocks trading at prices exponentially inflated over the value of these companies

    it is madness what’s going on with the market, and the correction will come, it’s just a matter of when

    The result will be that they will take private ownership of many mega large US corporations.

    and why not?

    they did it with the Great Depression, (the Bernank admitted this), and they did it with the 2008 crash, and the solution our government decided upon was to give the swindlers responsible hundreds of billions of dollars in bailouts. The Fed is still buying their toxic debts from all those CDSs, synthetic derivatives and sub-prime liar loans. It was an orgy of greed and the greatest theft of wealth in history. And it went from the working and middle class, from the pensioners and public pensions, all into the pocket of the .01% and their assorted congressional and media whores.

    If it worked that well last time, then why on earth wouldn’t they do it all again?

    “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered…. I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”

    TJ (and others like Ron Paul and Ayn Rand) tried to warn us

    Peace

    • Replies: @Art
    , @jacques sheete
  493. RobinG says:
    @geokat62

    But, but, Geo….

    That Israel struck first in 1967 is well established. For instance, see Miko Peled’s book, The General’s Son, for which he researched Israeli military archives.

    However, the US pre-approval and encouragement of the attack is more of a revelation. Not surprising, perhaps, but disgusting. [NB - the facts were in plain sight, but ignored, virtually erased by Zionist propaganda.] One might ask, wouldn’t the Israelis have struck first, with or without the US green light? But, as it stands, the episode reinforces the argument that Israel is America’s cat’s paw for nefarious activity in the ME.

    Is there really a puppet, or a master? Was there ever, and how has that relationship changed? Are such inconvenient facts used for mutual blackmail? We oppose Israeli influence on our FP, but both countries are dependent on a military economy.

    My assertion all along has been that the real problem is when the hegemonic schemes of Israel and the US converge. If there is any history that warrants revision, it’s the mythical story of Israel, fake news from beginning to end.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Art
    , @SolontoCroesus
  494. @Anon

    Xtians

    Xians. Jesus Christ, not Jesus Chris.

    Damn! You’re right. I hate when that happens.

    Considering how pissed-off the Xians get when you call ‘em Xtians, I can only imagine the white-hot fury of those-who-will-not-be-called-Xians. But, thanks for the tip. ;-)

  495. geokat62 says:
    @RobinG

    One might ask, wouldn’t the Israelis have struck first, with or without the US green light?

    Let’s recall that the ’67 War was a mere decade after the Suez Crisis in which the Israelis (along with the French and British) had their knuckles rapped by Eisenhower who had warned them not to invade. I think it’s safe to say that the days of a strong president like Ike are long gone.

    Is there really a puppet, or a master? Was there ever, and how has that relationship changed?

    When you have many of the republican candidates for president line up to kiss the ring of Sheldon Adelson (whose one issue is Israel), I’m I the only one who’s prepared to go out on a limb and say who is the puppet and who is the puppeteer in the “special relationship”?

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/24/gop-contenders-gather-at-sheldon-adelson-primary-in-vegas/

    Bottom Line: unfortunately, things have indeed changed since the days of Ike.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  496. Better to have the Jews in Israel than Brighton Beach or next door to you.

    They will not fight to win, because being hated and killed keeps the group together.

  497. Art says:
    @Rurik

    The Fed is still buying their toxic debts from all those CDSs, synthetic derivatives and sub-prime liar loans. It was an orgy of greed and the greatest theft of wealth in history.

    The Rothschilds have been doing this for centuries. They have so much actually money that only governments are big enough to be their customers. They are notorious for financing both sides of a war. Such a deal! Those Jews are clever. They know how to manipulate money and screw everyone.

    Without a doubt, that family of Jews has caused great hardship in this world.

    Block-chain tech can now create money for growth and exchange – that will mean the end of the evil Rothschild central banking system of manipulated debt.

    Think Peace — Art

  498. Art says:
    @RobinG

    If there is any history that warrants revision, it’s the mythical story of Israel, fake news from beginning to end.

    RobinG,

    Israel hides behind a series of word lies.

    Anti-Semite, holocaust, defamation, blood libel, WWII. Each of those words encapsulate lies – they are a gross exaggeration of the truth.

    When those words are used “victim Jew” is subconsciously regurgitated. In the Western mind when WWII is brought up, it is automatic, _Victim JEWS_ comes to mind.

    The more we talk about WWII the more they win. There are a million zillion lies already salted away in our collective minds. We cannot overcome them.

    We must focus on the current evil being done to Palestine, America, and the world by Zionist Jews.

    That battle we can win. “That truth will set us free.”

    Think Peace — Art

  499. Art says:
    @RobinG

    At 29min: “…..we discovered [the Israelis] have nuclear landmines seeded on the Golan Heights.”

    This interview from July, 1991, is laced with bombshells: the US pre-approved Israel’s FIRST STRIKE on Egypt in 1967 and their invasion of Lebanon in ’82; Israel’s role in arms sales to Iran; Mossad involvement in Honduras; etc., etc.

    RobinG,

    Holding Israel accountable for their nukes is an easy win – they cannot defend themselves. Charging “anti-Semite” does not wash. It puts their evil defensive tactics front and center.

    Think Peace — Art

  500. RobinG says:
    @Art

    Great point, Art:

    The more we talk about WWII the more they win. There are a million zillion lies already salted away in our collective minds. We cannot overcome them.

    That’s why I’m so skeptical of S2C, Wally, et al insisting on dwelling there.

    In addition (and contrast) to the word lies you listed, (Anti-Semite, holocaust, defamation, etc.) there’s another set of lies: Land w/o people for a people w/o land, …democracy, Jewish (one can argue, as Miko Peled does, that Israel embodies no real Jewish values, and most Jews choose not to live there).

    “We must focus on the current evil being done to Palestine, America, and the world by Zionist Jews.” Agreed.

  501. @Cloak And Dagger

    Hey Cloak And Dagger,

    I really did not enjoy intervening with “Millenial” having gone so off course with the article topic.

    His/Her screen name “Millenial” suggests youth and at minimum ought to be (at least) accredited for thinking about “has been” religious worldviews and lingering effects.

    (Zigh) Millenials do tend to get worse and open themselves up to Hollywood’s demoralizing (im-Puritan) socialization system.

    (Zigh) I doubt he/she even looked at the truth-telling flag pictures which correspond to P. Giraldi’s important topic.

    (Zigh) There are just puppeteers anymore and their puppets.

    The “pandering” to The Lobby is all that is…, what makes ZUSA tick, tic.

    Awareness and “sticking together” is the hand we’re dealt and I am in.

    Thank you, C&D… very cool name!

    • Replies: @Millennial
  502. @RobinG

    S2C knows the fact that people can not understand the present because the past is cunningly manipulated, distorted.

    I for one suggest we need and should appreciate the work of SolontoCroesus.

    Thank you.

    • Agree: chris
  503. FLgeezer says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    S2C is an invaluable asset to this board. He has the makings of a great Secretary of State. We can dream can’t we?

  504. @ChuckOrloski

    Fully agree. A lot of the current conundrum that we find ourselves in has its origin in the Holocaust myth and the exploitations thereof, by the likes of Ellie Wiesel, et. al. In order for the current narrative to be destroyed, the original hoax has to be destroyed from its nascence. This is a good start:

  505. @Art

    Hey Art,

    Guarantee smart and dedicated Palestinian warriors know the importance of Dumb Goyim perpetual ingestion & digestion of distorted WW 1 / 2 history is to Zionist Jews!

    Remember the mysterious airplane crash involving V.I.P.’s who were curious to learn more about the Katyn Forest mass murders? That’s ho-hum Pole history, eh?

    Perhaps S2C knows what’s what regarding the above travesty, and respectfully, I am not about to try & provoke him to do so. Let him be and learn.

    Thank you, Art.

  506. Art says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    S2C knows the fact that people can not understand the present because the past is cunningly manipulated, distorted.

    I for one suggest we need and should appreciate the work of SolontoCroesus.

    Hear Hear — If the Jews were on their heels having to defend what they are doing today – S2C’s worthy task would be attainable.

    Think Peace — Art

  507. @RobinG

    Have to disagree, WW2 is not ancient history and the myth of the “Good War”, while not exclusively central to current events, is nonetheless an important part of that intellectual bodyguard and must be constantly challenged.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @helena
  508. @ChuckOrloski

    My comments (directed at earlier commenters that did not include you), were, in fact, relevant to the subject at hand – chiefly because there remains a cottage industry of commentators (Moldbuggists, professional Celtic/Southron victims, Jews) who specifically, and incorrectly, blame “Puritans” “Yankees” “Calvinists” etc for the state of the modern West (incl. the pandering to Israel).

    “Hollywood’s demoralizing…”

    Kevin Spacey and his ilk would be right at home in the Elizabethan/Jacobean theatre scene (when both adult men and young boys were groomed to play female roles). “Puritans” specifically targeted theatre for its institutionalized pedophilia, homosexuality, and other such things. The UK crown, in this era, was an ally of the thespians (See also – Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew).

    “stage plays, the common idol and prevailing evil of our dissolute and degenerous age….He that speaks against them… is forthwith branded for a schismatical or factious Puritan. And if any one assay to alter or suppress them, he becomes so odious unto many… Whereas such who further these delights of sin are highly magnified, as the chief contrivers of the public happiness.”

    -William Prynne, 1633

    (Zigh)

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Anon
  509. Miro23 says:
    @Avery

    And of course the US Senator from Kentucky had to scrape and bow and lick Neocon boots to be allowed to live another day as a bootlicker.

    [“You have these gossipy websites who really demean themselves by putting stuff like that out,” Paul said. “I gave the Prime Minister 50 standing ovations, I co-sponsored bringing him here…”]

    This is what Americans have been degraded to.
    The proud American people who defeated the greatest world military power of its time have been reduced to bowing to a foreign leader whose country only exists thanks to America and the largess of the overtaxed and abused American taxpayer.

    Absolute power requires bowing and scraping – there’s nothing Democratic about it. And, it doesn’t matter whether it’s Louis XIV , the medieval Church or the Bolsheviks – absolute power hunts down “heretics”.

    In fact, the US Jewish Nomenklatura hasn’t quite got there yet ( although they tried for it on 9/11), and had another setback with the defeat of their latest Facade Goy, Hilary Clinton. But if they do get absolute power, the outcome isn’t difficult to predict. The US gets a permanent upper class (with a detailed explanation of their natural right to that position) along with Political Correctness trails, mass detentions and strictly enforced speech codes.

  510. Miro23 says:
    @Talha

    I can only speak for myself based on what I have observed over the years; it seems Modernity has a place for humans, but I am unsure it has room for man.

    Modernity/Technology isn’t going into reverse gear. If anything it’s going to speed up, but this isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

    Assuming that the trend continues, and computing/automation take over ever larger slices of human activity, why not code for the ethical input that humans so often talk about but usually ignore.

    After all, machines are now entering the realm of decision making, and good decision making has an ethical content (despite current anti-normative arguments).

    • Replies: @Talha
  511. Miro23 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    This is especially important for me as to the case of Jerome Powell and looming appointment to Fed Reserve Chairman. Why would President Bonespur * pick a non-Jew for such a time honored ritual (marquee) position?

    In a Pump & Dump scam, you put your friends in charge of the Pump phase and your enemies in charge of Dump phase. You get the profits and the praise, and they get the loses and the blame.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  512. @RobinG

    My assertion all along has been that the real problem is when the hegemonic schemes of Israel and the US converge. If there is any history that warrants revision, it’s the mythical story of Israel, fake news from beginning to end.

    Agree!

    I’m grateful to you, RobinG, for introducing me to Alison Weir and her work.

    Alison’s organization, If Americans Knew, sent out this email recently:

    On November 2nd, the 100th anniversary of the Balfour Declaration, AL-Mayadeen TV – the satellite TV news station headquartered in Beirut, Lebanon – interviewed Alison Weir at length about the U.S. connection to the declaration.

    The interview, dubbed in Arabic, will be re-broadcast on Monday at 13:30 & Tuesday at 03:30 and 08:30 (Lebanon time). It will be possible to view this by tuning in to http://www.almayadeen.net.

    The information Alison discussed – which explains that Zionists obtained the Balfour Declaration by promising they would push the U.S. into “the Great War” if the British would promise to facilitate their Zionist colonization of Palestine – is included in her book and recent article — at the link below.)

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/wrote-balfour-declaration-world-war-connection/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=506d7ab8-cf5e-40f2-b135-f8e1cbfde0ee

    The article traces the imminent establishment of Israel to events in WWI, and names several Jewish persons as well as the American and British politicians who were induced, by ignoble means and at the cost of millions of lives, to bring that about.

    The word “imminent” is used to signify the events in the midst of WWI — around 1917– by which zionists gained the protection of a superpower for its project.

    But by that time, Jews had already claimed major tracts of territory in Palestine, built TelAviv, dispossessed Palestinian Arabs, and aided thousands of East European Jews to migrate to Palestine.

    The claim that “Israel was established because of the Holocaust” is, um, chronologically challenged: those events/topics — zionism, the World Wars, Versailles, Weimar, the intense efforts to ‘ingather” Jews from the diaspora that took place in the 1930s, the destruction of Germany, the migration of Jews to Palestine AND to USA — some of it coerced by zionist leaders — must be understood together, interacting in tandem, not as discrete and unrelated events.

    The reproductive boom among East European Jews in the mid- to late-1800s; the emergence of zionism in Russia in the 1880s; the relationship of those two factors to mass Jewish migration to Germany and to Bolshevism — all these and more should be understood in order “to revise . . . the mythical story of Israel . . .from beginning to end.”

    (My argument about Holocaust is a maximalist one: the ordained narrative is too uniform, too cant; has too many failures of logic, and omits too many crucial and rock-solid facts. I think The Holocaust dogma is a red herring construct. The energy with which that false narrative is protected strongly suggests that something truly damning is concealed behind those lies. People all over the world are peeling away the layers of that false construct and assembling a ‘theory of the crime’ that is more in touch with reality. That will continue inexorably.

    Jews — and their gentile enablers– are very foolish to continue to disseminate –and to believe! — those lies; better to come clean, make amends, and join the civilized world.)

  513. helena says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Could we draw a line in the sand between studying accurate history through reading contemporary documents, and appropriating symbols?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  514. And then they wonder why some goys are anti-Semites?

  515. @Millennial

    “(inclu. the pandering to Israel) Kevin Spacey, J. Epstein and Prince Andrew)

    Millenial,

    Now you helped me make connection as to your U.R. comment offering goal.

    THANK you.

  516. @Miro23

    “… a Pump and Dump scam.”

    Above, a terrific plain spoken insight which even a Qumran Caveman could understand.

    I agree and THANK YOU VERY much, Miro23!

  517. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @helena

    studying accurate history through reading contemporary documents, and appropriating symbols?

    what does that mean?

  518. chris says:
    @Rurik

    Wow, Rurik that’s a very good analysis and, in my opinion, much closer to the truth than anything that’s being taught about this period anywhere.

    As you allude in your post, what our friend OJ leaves out of his accusation is what had lead up to the “spirit” of those 1940-1 newspapers.

    In the period after the Russian Revolution, great numbers of people in Europe had been horrified at the monstrous crimes the Bolsheviks had and were continuning to commit in Russia, the Ukraine and everywhere else in the Russian domains. And because the ring leaders of this slaughter were initially almost entirely all Jews, their communities came naturally under suspicion in European countries. This, also after attempted revolutions in Germany and Hungary in 1918/19, had again been lead by Jews. Revolutions which, if successful, were plausably believed to lead to the same slaughter the original one had in Russia.

    With the onset of the world economic depression of the 1930s, and in a direct reaction to the socialist/communist movements foisting revolution, military dictatorships arose in Europe “to deal with” the perceived states of emergency threatening the continent. What OJ’s Romanian newspapers were probably referring to, was pointing out the Jewish connection to the crazed Communist revolutionaries. Yet for all that, the initial measures which were adopted against their community had been relatively mild, considering that the revolutionaries were perceived to be the ISIS of their day. By the 30s, these were not just theoretical threats, as the Spanish Civil war, with its Soviet support, was showing.

    Being allied with Germany at the beginning of the war, Romania was not occupied by the Germans. Parts of its territories such as Transylvania were given by Germany to Hungary. In the parts which stayed under Romanian control, Jews were NOT deported but lived freely with everyone else under war time restrictions for the duration of the war (this has remained a little secret in the popular narrative of the war). The only exception was OJ’s Romanian territory of Transnistria, the present day country of Moldova I think where, following armed resistance by Jewish partisan troops against Romanian troops joining the German Russia campaign, the Romanian military dictator, declared he would remove “his protective hand” from their society. Consequently, the Jews in that region were rounded put into some concentration camps, but mostly, I think, relocated onto open land, outside of towns an villages, which was indeed a great hazard for them.

    The Jewish communities in Eastern Europe were never able to entirely dispell the suspicion that they supported the Russian revolutionaries. And it was clear to all that in the event of a communist win, those communities were going to be spared the brunt of the predations which the Christian communities were going to be subject to – in fact, their members could look forward to leading positions in those Communist governments, as it later came to be.

    And so, at the onset of the war, in about 1939, as you point out in your comment, the eastern European countries didn’t have the choice between allying themselves with Stalin or with Albert Schweitzer but between Stalin and Hitler. Up until that point in time, Lenin and then Stalin had already murdered millions of people, which was an unprecedented peace-time slaughter in Europe not seen since the French Revolution, while Hitler had, in essence, “only” imposed regulations which were, more or less commensurate with a state of emergency (Only a couple of years later Roosevelt interred all the Japanese-Americans!). The Axis allies may or may not have known what Hitler would do, but they sure knew what crimes Stalin had committed already and was continuing to commit.

    Unlike the socialists/communists, the Fascists did not create totalitarian regimes upending society, but imposed “emergency measures.” Where, “upended society,” actually means that they arrested and murdered almost entirely the upper part and completely terrorized the rest of society.

    This procedure was imposed in Russia after the Revolution, and in Eastern Europe, after 1945, when the “liberating” Russian troops installed “satellite” regimes there, staffed almost entirely by Jews.

    • Agree: Zumbuddi
    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Rurik
    , @Old Jew
  519. Talha says:
    @Miro23

    Hey Miro23,

    Good stuff…

    Modernity/Technology isn’t going into reverse gear.

    Barring a massive solar flare that puts us back into the 18th century – you are probably correct. Have you read Brave New World?

    isn’t necessarily a bad thing

    Not necessarily, but quite possible. Thus far, those societies that have adopted “technology” as the apex of their culture haven’t thought about what they have lost. My earnest advice, please read this book:
    “Tools are not integrated into the culture; they attack the culture. They bid to become the cult