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The end of the year is full of goodies. I watched with glee the 128 to 9 vote at the United Nations condemning the Trump Administration decision to move the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem and was even more amused when the Associated Press and the New York Post tried to twist the story into a victory for the United States and Israel because the outcome might have been even more lopsided. CNN’s Jake Tapper, a vocal critic of Trump in nearly everything, also cheered the White House decision, demonstrating once again that loyalty to his tribe is more important to him than doing the right thing for the American people.

Also last week I watched what had been described as President Donald Trump’s annual National Security Strategy (NSS) review speech, the first he has given since assuming office. Having missed the first two minutes while letting our bulldog Dudley out for routine maintenance, I came back and wondered if someone had changed the channel. Trump was going on and on in what appeared to be a campaign speech, talking about the failures of the Obama Administration before proceeding to describe how wonderful and safer everything is now that he is president.

While I am not terribly enamored of the Obama record on national security, particularly its targeted killings and its stealth wars, what turned out to be the Trump rebuttal was not what I expected, rather like a cheap shot directed against someone who can no longer respond effectively. President Trump did eventually get around to talking about national security but the presentation was clearly aimed at pleasing what Trump views as his most solid group of supporters, i.e. American voters who tend to see, as he does, the world as a place where enemies and threats prevail, requiring an always truculent response and an overwhelming military to back up the words.

Most Americans who watched the speech were probably unaware that it was a much-shortened version of a congressionally mandated 68 page long document that was put out simultaneously by the White House entitled National Security Strategy of the United States of America December 2017. The speech, its Jeremiad at the beginning aside, only partly reflected the document and in some cases actually contradicted it.

Both the speech and document were broken down into four broad categories: I. Protect the American People, the Homeland, and the American Way of Life; II. Promote American Prosperity; III. Preserve Peace Through Strength; and IV. Advance American Influence. I was particularly interested in hearing what the administration would actually do and was hoping that the speech would avoid bromides and generalized commentary. In fact, there was a lot of chest thumping and relatively little in the way of pledges for action.

The first solid commitment was to build the wall with Mexico. It was packaged by Trump as a national security issue as no nation can call itself secure if it cannot control its own borders, which happens to be a viewpoint that I would agree with though I am skeptical about the wall. This naturally segued into a condemnation of the immigration and naturalization system. Trump restated his belief that a number of Muslim countries have to be subject to travels bans, which is a view that I would disagree with as I do not necessarily think that blocking whole countries provides a real solution to security problems. But I do support Trump’s call for extreme vetting of visa applicants. Inconsistent visa processing is a general security problem and all visitors and/or refugee and asylum applicants, in my view, should be subject to greater scrutiny.

Trump also went after some other horrible features of the current immigration program. He said visa lotteries would be stopped and chain migration, whereby entire extended families have gained entry to the United States based on just one individual being allowed to enter, would also be ended. And he would cut back on H-1B visas which allow foreigners with needed skills to be granted temporary work permits. This last has largely benefited Silicon Valley and the IT industry, which hire mostly Indian technical university graduates to work for much lower pay and benefits than U.S citizens would require, eliminating jobs for Americans. These are all reasonable corrections for the system, which, as it currently stands, is best described as out-of-control.

The third and final thing that Trump promised to do was to end the sequester and give billions more to the military to modernize and equip it to confront today’s threats. This was the really bad part of the speech and evidence that the White House has been listening far too much to its generals and the neocons that have begun to re-insert themselves in the Pentagon and National Security Council. The United State already spends more on “defense” than its seven closest competitors and it is unchallenged militarily. Nor is it threatened in any serious way anywhere in the world, with the possible exception of North Korea, which knows it would certainly be obliterated if it were ever to try to use one of its developing weapons systems against the U.S.

So why do we need more weapons? Pentagon experts would say that the deterrence systems in place are old and that combat aircraft, tanks and mobile artillery are inferior to those being produced by Russia, for example. But the same experts backed by the military industrial congressional lobby continue to recommend the production of aircraft carriers, which are, for example, particularly vulnerable to new missile technologies. And all the projects are, of course, subject to cost overruns. It is all the product of a completely corrupt system which Trump appears to have bought into. He repeated the hoary notion that the United States must remain unchallenged militarily all over the world, saying “We will compete with all tools of national power to ensure that regions of the world are not dominated by one power.”

If one takes Trump at his word, the U.S. will use force worldwide to make sure that only Washington can dominate regionally, a frightening thought as it goes beyond even the wildest pretensions of George W. Bush and Barack Obama. And equally ridiculous are the potential consequences of such bullying – the White House clearly believes that it will make other nations respect us and follow our leadership whereas quite the reverse is likely to be true.

On the very limited bright side, Trump did have good things to say about the benefits derived from intelligence sharing with Russia and he also spoke about both Moscow and Beijing as “rivals” and “adversaries” instead of enemies. That was very refreshing to hear but unfortunately the printed document did not say the same thing.

The NSS report provided considerably more detail than did the speech but it also was full of generalizations and all too often relied on Washington group think to frame its options. The beginning is somewhat terrifying for one of my inclinations on foreign policy:

“An America that is safe, prosperous, and free at home is an America with the strength, confidence, and will to lead abroad. It is an America that can preserve peace, uphold liberty, and create enduring advantages for the American people. Putting America first is the duty of our government and the foundation for U.S. leadership in the world. A strong America is in the vital interests of not only the American people, but also those around the world who want to partner with the United States in pursuit of shared interests, values, and aspirations.”

One has to ask what this “lead” and “leadership” and “partner” nonsense actually represents, particularly in light of the fact that damn near the entire world just repudiated Trump’s decision to move the American Embassy in Israel as well as the nearly global rejection of his response to climate change? And Washington’s alleged need to lead has brought nothing but grief to the American people starting in Korea and continuing with Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and numerous lesser stops along the way in places like Somalia, Panama and Syria. The false narrative of the threat coming from “foreigners” has actually done nothing to make Americans safer while also diminishing constitutional liberties and doing serious damage to the economy.

The printed report is much more brutal than was Trump about the dangers facing America and it is also much more carefree in the “facts” that it chooses to present. It says, with extreme hyperbole, that “China and Russia challenge American power, influence, and interests, attempting to erode American security and prosperity. They are determined to make economies less free and less fair, to grow their militaries, and to control information and data to repress their societies and expand their influence. At the same time, the dictatorships of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea and the Islamic Republic of Iran are determined to destabilize regions, threaten Americans and our allies, and brutalize their own people.”

A somewhat more detailed account of what Moscow is up to is also contained in the written report, stating that “Russia is using subversive measures to weaken the credibility of America’s commitment to Europe, undermine transatlantic unity, and weaken European institutions and governments. With its invasions of Georgia and Ukraine, Russia demonstrated its willingness to violate the sovereignty of states in the region. Russia continues to intimidate its neighbors with threatening behavior, such as nuclear posturing and the forward deployment of offensive capabilities.”

Nearly every detail in the indictment of Russia can be challenged. Most notably, if anyone is forward deploying offensive capabilities in Eastern Europe or invading other countries it is the United States, a trend that continues under Donald Trump. Just this past week, Trump approved the sale of offensive weapons to Ukraine, which has already drawn a warning from Moscow and will make any dialogue with Russia unlikely.

And, of course, there is the usual softball for Israel claiming that “For generations the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians has been understood as the prime irritant preventing peace and prosperity in the region. Today, the threats from jihadist terrorist organizations and the threat from Iran are creating the realization that Israel is not the cause of the region’s problems.” It is a conclusion that must make the unspeakable Benjamin Netanyahu smile. One might observe that as Israel has attacked all of its neighbors since it was founded, holding its governments blameless is a formulation that others in the region might well dispute.

So the Donald Trump National Security Strategy will be more of the same, a combination of the worst ideas to emerge from his two predecessors with little in the way of mitigation. Trump might balk at going toe-to-toe with North Korea because they have the actual capability to strike back and might think they have nothing to lose if they are about to be incinerated, something no bully likes to see, but Iran is certainly in the cross hairs and you best believe they have taken notice and will be preparing. Vladimir Putin too can sit back and wonder how Trump could possibly have gotten everything so ass-backwards when he had so much latitude to get at least some things right. The National Security Strategy will deliver little in the way of security but it will provide an answer to why most of the world has come to hate the United States.

 
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  1. Many readers are familiar with the decades old Yinon Plan to overthrow and fragment Muslim nations to allow Israel’s continued expansion into lands granted them by an ancient book.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

    Most readers have seen the decade old video of retired US Army General Clark explain the plan to conquer seven Muslim nations in five years.

    These have been dismissed as ravings by anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists, until now. This week Michael Makovsky, President and CEO of the Jewish Institute for National Security of America (JINSA), and a former Pentagon official wrote:

    “Maintaining Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen in their existing forms is unnatural and serves Iran’s interests. There is nothing sacred about these countries’ borders, which seem to have been drawn by a drunk and blindfolded mapmaker. Indeed, in totally disregarding these borders, ISIS and Iran both have already demonstrated the anachronism and irrelevance of the borders.

    Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen are not nation-states as Americans understand them, but rather post-World War I artificial constructs, mostly created out of the ashes of the Ottoman Empire in a colossally failed experiment by international leaders.

    …President Trump should take the offensive to Iran. The current political structure of the Middle East serves Iran’s interests, and it’s time to upend it.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/12/25/one-way-to-counter-irans-aggression-change-map-middle-east.html

    These are the states not yet subdued by American troops per General Clark. The “Yinon conspiracy” is now confirmed. American patriots are proven correct, but it doesn’t matter. Trump and his Generals must attack Iran. American troops are surging to surround Iran now!

  2. I don’t remember voting for Donald Trump because I wanted to accuse Russia of brinkmanship, or escalate matters with North Korea and Iran, and least of all because I wanted the Israeli capitol moved to Jerusalem. At least Trump has bagged one more unique accomplishment: He’s forced me to agree with Barack Obama and (anti-) Pope Francis about something, and I’m not thanking him for it.

  3. Dan Hayes says:

    I am in agreement with your analysis of Trump’s national security strategies. They are almost entirely wrongheaded and deserve opprobrium.

    His administration’s achievements are wholly lacking with one notable achievement, the appointment of Neill Gorsuch to the Supreme Court. If and when the next SCOTUS appointment becomes available it will be interesting to see whether Trump will yield to the political zeitgeist and nominate a “moderate” to quell the incessant bellowing of the media. Of course the chattering classes will never be appeased no matter how much he tries to mollify them!

  4. Biff says:

    Trump, like Obama, is just another empty suit.
    The un-elected in the National Security State have the power – considering they always get what they want.

    • Replies: @Sowhat
  5. anon • Disclaimer says:

    The USA should withdraw from Okinawa, South Korea, etc. End its membership in NATO. In short abandon the empire. But the Military-Industrial complex and the Israeli lobby won’t let that happen.

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @Art
    , @Priss Factor
  6. So who was Trump playing to with the UN speech delivered by Nikki? Was it AIPAC? Was it the tribe in positions of opinion writing? Certainly he really didn’t care how Togo was going to vote did he? Would it not have been better to just ignore the whole thing. Israel is used to a public rebuke.

    Or it could be none of the above and the president was just playing to the idiot Christian Zionists on FOX while also trashing the UN. Always a popular move with the noncollege crowd a key Trump support group to be sure.

    “Fox News‏Verified account
    @FoxNews
    [email protected]_White on @POTUS: “His (Trump’s) faith is such an important part of his life. It guides him, it leads him.”

    • Replies: @Wally
  7. Brabantian says: • Website

    Trump is dancing with the devil no doubt … But he has done some immensely good things. Speeches and policy statement reports shouldn’t be taken too seriously.

    Just now, Trump cutting over a quarter billion of the United Nations budget, the UN hilariously BTFO (blown the f-ck out) as some alt-righters are saying

    The UN which just helped kill tens of thousands in Libya, denying Libyans the health care & education they had before, the UN helping render Libya to extremist warlords who sell human beings as slaves … the UN whose ‘peacekeeping forces’ have been involved in rape and child prostitution

    Some solace for the ghost of murdered Qaddafi from Trump here

    People need to look past surface rhetoric … Trump’s ‘Jerusalem is Israel’s capital’ gambit, has united Muslims like never before, Sunni uniting with Shia, Hamas with Fatah, Turkey with Iran … Israel is more of a pariah than it has been in years, and ‘one state’ for Palestine-Israel is coming into view … and Trump did all that with just one ‘silly’ announcement, leveraging Jewish over-reach against the Zionist project itself … by bumbling ‘accident’, or was this in fact the plan of high-IQ-clever Trump?

    And, enduringly, Trump has shown hundreds of millions of people the legitimacy of expressing the truth that very often, the News is Fake … that is an eternal gift from Trump that people will keep through their lifetimes

    Yes, Trump is ‘compromised’, his likely-necessary-for-survival dalliances with the kosher nostra, the military-industrial complex, and the usurers and financiers of Wall Street … Trump has connected with enough support inside the system, so that he is still alive and still there in the White House

    But perhaps Trump is more than a bumbling, arch-Zionist system-tied billionaire doing some good ‘by accident’ … perhaps Trump is someone who, very courageously – accepting even great damage to his own ego and reputation – has accepted the burden of personal partnership with the dark side, in order to do some pieces of great good that no US President ever did before

  8. Re Visas, see my book “Visas for Al Qaeda: CIA Handouts That Rocked The World “.

    Re Security Policy, see my book “Goodbye Europe? Hello Chaos? Merkel’s Migrant Bomb”

    They provide the necessary background to this article

  9. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Trump is just a NYC con artist, adept at distracting us ‘marks’ while his confederates pick our pockets.

    Instead of babbling on in a speech written by some Israeli-Firster war monger, he should of taken the Pentagon to task, chiding them for spending trillions of new weapons that don’t work and require a constant flow of money to keep from falling apart or out of the skies, like the F-35 Lightning (NATO Code name ‘Clunker’).

    That would drain that Swamp he’s so adept at babbling about without doing anything, except to feed his seal-like Twitter followers fresh doses of smelly fish each day.

    If he was truly going to drain the Swamp, he would of mentioned that 21 TRILLION dollars missing from the USG, announcing he was forming a task force to investigate and recover that loot. But that won’t happen, as some of his buddies are holding the loot.

    Trump is just an Obama in ‘white-face,’ telling people what they want to hear, but acting the opposite.

    One thing Americans can count on from Trump is that he will enact laws to give his family more money and help ensure that his slippery son-in-law never faces charges for his creative ways of financing his slumlord Empire.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  10. I understand that our political class is under control but not the why and how.
    The only thing that comes to my mind is a rich woman with a very low self steem under the control of a man that do not lover and that she fully support.
    Cant understand the total rich class complicity neither.

  11. Another good piece, but I’d modify this.:

    And Washington’s alleged need to lead has brought nothing but grief to the American people starting in Korea…

    If one studies the urges of FDR and his admin, it would be very difficult to conclude that we proles and peasants have had anything other than grief as a result of his angling to get the US into the unnecessary wars with Germany and Japan, which among other things, were pretexts for the rich to further concentrate wealth and power in even fewer hands, and I’m not talking only about the shooting wars. I’m alluding to the economic warfare initiated against several others well prior to any shots being fired or bombs being dropped.

    A similar argument could be made about Woody’s misguided adventures in Europe, McKinley’s antics against the Spanish, and Teddy’s actions regarding the Panama Canal Zone.

    Or we could go back even further to American action even before the US became a country, to the time when the Massachusetts colony became the first Western government to issue worthless paper money (in 1690) as a result of the need to finance a failed (i.e., unprofitable ) raid on the prosperous French colony of Quebec.

    Only a few will understand the point, basic as it is, and for those who don’t, don’t bother me about it.

  12. Jake says:
    @anon

    That is true, but it is true not just because of those entities within the USA.

    The only reasons England withdrew from almost all its global empire are that it was forced to by fiscal disaster due to WW1 and because its Elites saw and accepted that the American Empire, built upon the basics of Anglo-Saxon Puritan culture and its endless self-righteous fury to force others to ‘reform’ in its image, would take up the mantle.

    The US is WASP Empire playing One Ring to Rule Them All, Part 2.

    And yes, it is imperative to know that Anglo-Saxon Puritan culture began as a Judaizing heresy.

  13. “American voters who tend to see, as he does, the world as a place where enemies and threats prevail, requiring an always truculent response and an overwhelming military to back up the words.”

    This is a grossly inaccurate assessment of Trump voters. Trump ran as an anti-interventionist. We knew Hillary was a war monger and hoped at least the Trump was not. And truculent? Sixty million American voters are truculent? You mean like “we came, we saw, he died”?

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
  14. LondonBob says:

    Worth pointing out that the spending on the military will be accompanied by an audit of the Pentagon, according to The National Interest. So maybe a case of a Trump sleight of hand.

    Still when you look at the military leadership, foreign policy wonks in DC and Congress Trump still somehow remains the sanest voice on many matters.

  15. El Dato says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen are not nation-states as Americans understand them, but rather post-World War I artificial constructs, mostly created out of the ashes of the Ottoman Empire in a colossally failed experiment by international leaders.

    I guess Israel is in that category more than most.

    As for “colossally failed”, you can’t get much further than the Blue-White Starred Entity based on note-taking of people under the influence of desert crack back after the Late Bronze Age Collapse.

  16. @WorkingClass

    I think your assessment is wrong. Many Americans, myself included voted for Trump because we heard the anti-interventionist message. They might indeed have provided the margin of victory. But most were hearing “Make America Great Again” with all that implies.

  17. El Dato says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    American troops are surging to surround Iran now!

    First, we will have to finagle a New New Pearl Harbor, then hang it off Iran. (9/11 was repeatedly connected to Iran but that meme didn’t particularly propagate)

    Now, what could be on the menu….

    Some attack against something ethnic somewhere in … uh … maybe southern Europe?

  18. Art says:
    @anon

    The USA should withdraw from Okinawa, South Korea, etc. End its membership in NATO. In short abandon the empire. But the Military-Industrial complex and the Israeli lobby won’t let that happen.

    How true – increasingly they are becoming one and the same thing. All our generals are vetted Israeli supporters. How many defense companies have Jew board members.

    Israeli vetted ex-military now run, the White House, the DOD, the CIA, and the US Security Counsel. There is talk of the CIA head becoming State Department head.

    An Israeli supporting ex-military running things is not America First.

    Think Peace — Art

  19. As always, the central point of the article is Russia. Mr Giraldi quotes an entire passage from the report and then says: “Nearly every detail in the indictment of Russia can be challenged”. He then doesn’t challenge even one of those details! All he comes up with is that the US is doing the same thing! He isn’t “challenging” the “indictment”, as he calls it, he’s admitting that it’s true. A says B is evil. C “defends” B by saying that A is evil. That’s nonsense. There’s no reason why both A and B might not be equally evil, which is a condemnation of both, not a defence of either.
    Let me do Mr Giraldi’s job for him on one point. “Russia is using subversive measures to weaken the credibility of America’s commitment to Europe, undermine transatlantic unity, and weaken European institutions and governments”. Putin doesn’t need to do that. The US is doing it for him! Obama’s failure to stand up firmly to Putin in Ukraine undermines, probably irreversibly, “the credibility of America’s commitment to Europe” and thereby “transatlantic unity”. Trump has made matters worse by appearing to snuggle up to Putin and by his remarks about NATO. As for weakening “European institutions and governments”, the attacks on the EU and on the sovereignty and territorial integrity of European states appear to be a CIA-run job, using both American NGOs and Russian sources, to manipulate and/or rig our elections and referenda and to fund or even create, anti-EU political parties in the Member States. Thus, Russian nationals, probably also the Russian government, are complicit in that campaign but they are just “useful idiots”, being used to advance the cause of US global hegemony. What happens when the Russian backwoodsmen wake up to that?

  20. @Michael Kenny

    As usual Michael Kenny is obsessed with attacking Russia based on his odd fantasies. You followed me here from the TAC site where you were up to the same tricks. If you don’t like what I write why don’t you just go away or find someone somewhere that will take you seriously?

    • Replies: @Frankie P
  21. MEexpert says:

    Talking to US troops in Europe related to ongoing tensions with Russia, Marine Commandant Gen. Robert Neller warned that he sees “a war coming,” and that troops deployed there are in for “a big ass fight.” Antiwar.com

    A good general always tries to avoid war not start one. Every commander in the US military is threatening war. Russia, Iran, Syria, North Korea, China, and Venezuela are all targets for future wars, regardless of consequences. President threatens to attack any target he wishes. His UN ambassador is even crazier.

    Positions like Secratary of State and UN ambassador used to be highly diplomatic. Now all they talk about is war. I thougth Rex Tillerson was the only sane person in this administration and he does try to use diplomacy. But every time he opens his mouth, his boss cuts him down to size. This administration has not extended “hand of friendship” to any nation. The UN ambassador threatens to cut off funds if nations don’t tow the US line. Diplomacy has been taken out of the American dictionary. Trump wants to have his finger in every pot whether he knows anything about it or not. He is running the country as he ran his business. The result will be the same. Instead of “Making America Great Again,” he is going to bankrupt the country as happened in many of his business ventures.

    Look at the congress, the administration, the military, and the intelligence community (FBI, CIA, NSA and all the other alphabet security agencies), even the Media, they are all clamoring for war. It is insane. They are all a bunch of clowns. They are playing with the lives of American people. The entire political system is so corrupt that it is about to blow. It cannot sustain this level of insanity. God help the American people. Apathy reigns in the US. People just don’t care.

    • Agree: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Art
  22. The Zionists who control every facet of the gov and our lives via their privately owned FED and their IRS are not interested in Americas security , they are interested in a Zionist NWO and a Zionist Satanist world gov and ISISRAEL.

    The wars that America has been forced to fight for the Zionist cabal starting with WWI and right through to the Mideast have been planned and follow the template of THE REPORT FROM IRON MOUNTAIN , ie these bastards are warmongers who believe in war to control humanity and also as a blood sacrifice to their Zionist god satan.

    To see what the Zionists have done and are doing , please read THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION.

  23. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    So why do we need more weapons? Pentagon experts would say that the deterrence systems in place are old and that combat aircraft, tanks and mobile artillery are inferior to those being produced by Russia, for example.

    Russia spends a fraction of what the USA does on weapons and has superior jets, tanks, armored vehicles and from what happened to that US destroyer that got all of its EW capabilities shut off by ONE Russian jet flying overhead, they also appear to have superior electronic warfare weapons.

    So what’s Trump and the Pentagon’s reply? Spend more money, that will make Russia cower.

    If advanced degrees could be given in stupidity with a minor in chest-thumping, the Pentagon and the WH would be full of PhD’s in asininity.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
    , @Avery
  24. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    We knew you were a spook and not only did you vote but you voted for those reasons? Let’s work together in 2018 to create our own enemies – first you have to tell us who yours are.

    • Replies: @LA Dude
  25. Flavius says:

    Thanks for another good read on what can be observed as the steady slide of Trump, certainly on the FP side.
    The man whose policy promises we voted for is revealing himself to have not much class. But then we knew that and the alternative in the general election not only was devoid of class but was meretricious as well and had known FP preferences that had been demonstrated to result in disaster.
    Nevertheless we’re left wondering how far Trump is liable to sink under the steady pressures of his terrible FP staffing choices. Between those and the inexorable inertial forces of the uneducable FP bureaucracies, prospects appear to be not good and he is in proximate danger of becoming Clinton bad.
    Especially telling is the fact that not only does this nincompoop Nikki Haley still have a job, Trump appears actually to approve of her. If Trump doesn’t recognize this female blowhard as a clear and present danger to forging correct relations with other countries, there doesn’t appear to be much hope.
    This woman has so little charm that I can’t imagine anyone would want to be in the same room with her unless they were there to be bought.

  26. Wally says:
    @Mark James

    “Always a popular move with the noncollege crowd a key Trump support group to be sure. ”

    Tell us how ‘the college crowd’ is so great in your opinion.

    Here’s how smart they are:
    Students love Trump’s tax plan… WHEN TOLD IT’S BERNIE’S
    ‘President Donald Trump’s proposal for comprehensive tax reform was almost immediately dismissed as heartless and impractical by his political opponents.
    When the same ideas are packaged under Bernie Sanders’ name, however, liberal college students excitedly endorsed them.’
    see:

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9997

    A chilling study shows how hostile college students are toward free speech

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-chilling-study-shows-how-hostile-college-students-are-toward-free-speech/2017/09/18/cbb1a234-9ca8-11e7-9083-fbfddf6804c2_story.html?utm_term=.c2e1d015ad87

    Hate Speech & First Amendment: Not Protected, Say College Students …

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/451523/hate-speech-first-amendment-not-protected-say-college-students

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  27. Wally says: • Website
    @Philip Giraldi

    Bingo! The alternative would have been Hillary.

    No contest, I’ll take Trump and ‘the deplorables’ any day.

    Thanks for all your great work as seen at Unz.com, Philip.

    Only liars demand censorship.
    http://www.codoh.com

  28. Z-man says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen are not nation-states as Americans understand them, but rather post-World War I artificial constructs

    Israel is the most artificial state of them all.

    • Replies: @Art
  29. Z-man says:

    CNN’s Jake Tapper, a vocal critic of Trump in nearly everything, also cheered the White House decision, demonstrating once again that loyalty to his tribe is more important to him than doing the right thing for the American people.

    The cancer amongst us.

    • Replies: @prusmc
  30. El Dato says:
    @MEexpert

    that troops deployed there are in for “a big ass fight.

    US troops have such big asses? That’s going to be difficult to fit into homecoming coffins.

    • LOL: MEexpert
  31. @Philip Giraldi

    But most were hearing “Make America Great Again” with all that implies.

    What I was hearing was America First. For me that implied ending forever wars for Israel and tending instead to infrastructure. It meant ending mass immigration. It meant re-industrialization. And it meant slowing the march of cultural Marxism.

    Trump’s foreign policy is a disaster in my opinion. But no worse than Hillary’s would have been. And I am happy that the corruption of and collusion between the Clinton Campaign, the FBI and the DOJ have been brought to light. And I am happy that the corporate media including Hollywood have been exposed for what they are.

    I mean no disrespect Mr. Giraldi. I will always come to the defense of the deplorables. Including yourself.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  32. Art says:
    @MEexpert

    A good general always tries to avoid war not start one

    Hmm — please name one US general that does not publically back Israel!

    How bad is that for America?

    How defeated are we?

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Liberty56
    , @MEexpert
  33. Z-man says:

    the White House has been listening far too much to its generals and the neocons that have begun to re-insert themselves in the Pentagon and National Security Council.

    Yes I miss the campaign where he was against the policies of these vermon Neocons and my worst fear that these rats are back.

    Vladimir Putin too can sit back and wonder how Trump could possibly have gotten everything so ass-backwards when he had so much latitude to get at least some things right. The National Security Strategy will deliver little in the way of security but it will provide an answer to why most of the world has come to hate the United States.

    Ah again, the good old days of the camapaign when we were going to be partners with Russia, be tough on unfair trade with China and the rest of the world, were going to get out of many foreign intanglements and meddling, protect ‘our’ borders and make the hedge fund managers pay!
    Fortunatley Trump is likely not to follow his current pronouncements either and hopefully he still has a few core values that goes against the swamp (deep state).

    PS.

    Just this past week, Trump approved the sale of offensive weapons to Ukraine, which has already drawn a warning from Moscow and will make any dialogue with Russia unlikely.

    I commented with ‘disqus’ on a site called ‘Ukraine Today’ and I criticized this new action and was immediatley banned from the site. Troubling and humorous at the same time.

  34. LA Dude says:
    @Anonymous

    We knew you were a spook

    What leads you to believe that Phil worked at the CIA? He is obsessed with Israel, and yet he evinces no specialized knowledge of Middle Eastern languages, religions, or cultures, and he only cites in his writing secondary sources originating in English.

    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @Art
    , @Philip Giraldi
  35. Kolo says:
    @Brabantian

    You make interesting observations

  36. Z-man says:
    @Art

    Hmm — please name one US general that does not publically back Israel!
    How bad is that for America?

    Sad but true.

  37. Art says:
    @Z-man

    Israel is the most artificial state of them all.

    It is proving to be a dark day in human history when Truman created Israel.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @LA Dude
  38. Liberty56 says:
    @Art

    Admiral Thomas Moorer said this after the USS Liberty Attack by Israel.
    “I’ve never seen a President — I don’t care who he is — stand up to [Israel] … They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wouldn’t write anything down. If the American people understood what a grip these people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms.”

    JFK stood up against Israel but he got a couple of bullets in his head.

    • Replies: @Art
  39. Art says:

    The third and final thing that Trump promised to do was to end the sequester and give billions more to the military to modernize and equip it to confront today’s threats.

    Our generals are secretly building military bases in Syria — WHY?

    Syria is a sovereign nation – is this not an act of war?

    Did congress secretly OK this? We have seen no hearings on this. The Pentagon must be one big slush fund – where they just come up with money to do these things.

    (Probably the only people who do not know about this is the good folks of America.)

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Liberty56
  40. MEexpert says:
    @Art

    How defeated are we?

    Just look at the nations that supported the US at the UN; Guatemala, Honduras, Marshal Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, and Togo. All could make you shake in your boots.

  41. prusmc says:
    @Z-man

    Apparently, this is the only time Tapper ever supported Trump. Agree with reduced funding to UN cut by another 25 percent a year.

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Art
  42. Art says:
    @Liberty56

    Admiral Thomas Moorer said this after the USS Liberty Attack by Israel.
    “I’ve never seen a President — I don’t care who he is — stand up to [Israel]

    JFK stood up against Israel but he got a couple of bullets in his head.

    Liberty56,

    Honest patriotic people like Admiral Thomas Moorer and JFK are not allowed to surface in America’s public culture.

    All the media types, all the generals, all the congress people, and all the presidents have to band together and suppress the honest ones – or expose themselves.

    Clearly, the Jews have us coming and going.

    Think Peace — Art

  43. Liberty56 says:
    @Art

    F-35 is a example of how the MIC sells expensive non working weapons

  44. Art says:
    @LA Dude

    He is obsessed with Israel, and yet he evinces no specialized knowledge of Middle Eastern languages, religions, or cultures

    You don’t have to be a genius or have five degrees to hate what Israel is doing the ME, America, the West, and the democratic world.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Sanctions are coming Israel’s way for its hidden nukes.

    • Replies: @Sherman
  45. Z-man says:
    @prusmc

    Actually that’s just what the Zionists want. The UN is the only international organization that pushes back against The Zionist Beast. Ironically they created it too.

  46. Art says:
    @prusmc

    Apparently, this is the only time Tapper ever supported Trump. Agree with reduced funding to UN cut by another 25 percent a year.

    prusmc,

    Tapper is a Jew – he never acknowledges this when reporting Israeli propaganda.

    The capacity of the Jews to be dishonest is unbounded.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Does he ever mention Israeli nukes? I thought not.

  47. @Greg Bacon

    Trump is just a NYC con artist, adept at distracting us ‘marks’ while his confederates pick our pockets.

    Which in fact is the real reason government, despite the “deliverance” rhetoric, exists. Government is nothing more than an efficient way to pick our and our neighbor’s pockets. A huge, well organized, “legitimized” protection racket.

    Yes, they toss us productive ones a few crumbs now and then to keep us quiet, but it’s all a huge net lost to us dupes and suckers.

    Blind and deaf, yet she understood the scam. Note the date.

    They use us millions to help them into power. They tell us like so many children that our safety lies in voting for them. They toss us crumbs of concession to make us believe that they are working in our interest. “
    Helen Keller, OUT OF THE DARK, LETTER TO AN ENGLISH WOMAN- SUFFRAGIST* Copyright, 1907
    http://archive.org/stream/outdarkessaysle01kellgoog/outdarkessaysle01kellgoog_djvu.txt

    The system sucks. It always has. The wonder of it is that people still have faith…

  48. @LA Dude

    Thanks Dude. I was a CIA senior officer who worked and lived in the ME region for three years plus I traveled extensively in the area afterwards, visiting and working in every country but Israel over the course of more than fifteen years. I speak Turkish plus four European languages and have some Arabic. Et tu?

    • Replies: @LA Dude
  49. @Philip Giraldi

    …voted for Trump because we heard the anti-interventionist message.

    The old hearing what you wanna hear scam. Works nearly every time, and it even works against extremely intelligent, knowledgeable and good hearted people.

    I heard The Shrub’s BS about “compassionate conservatism” and ” a humble foreign policy,” held my nose and voted for him the first time. It was the last time I voted seriously. I still go to the polls and do my duty to expose and mock it as part of a vile, hideous, and utterly degenerate system, not that I suffer any illusions about the utility of my insignificant contributions.

    The system stinks, always has , and always will. Casting ballots for frauds is much worse than a joke.

    The only answer I can see is to boycott the system in any way one can.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @ChuckOrloski
  50. @Michael Kenny

    Obama’s failure to stand up firmly to Putin in Ukraine undermines, probably irreversibly, “the credibility of America’s commitment to Europe” and thereby “transatlantic unity”.

    As an O-bomb-a loather, I will admit that he did the right thing there, i.e., attempting to mind his own business for once.

    Since when did the US have any commitment to Europe except to make it a poodle for the international banking class?

    • Replies: @Beckow
  51. I read that Jonah Goldberg’s wife is Nikki Haley’s speech writer.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  52. @Philip Giraldi

    My support for Trump was largely based on “Not Hillary”. I was skeptical that he would truly be a non-interventionist or distance himself from the Israel-firsters with a son-in-law like Jared. I take some solace in the fact that thus far, he has not done worse for the country than Hillary would have done.

    Each election season, I am frustrated that my choices are between Tweedledum and Tweedledee. We were thwarted in our efforts to get a true patriot like Ron Paul elected, because the two parties prevent him from being nominated, and the Israeli media makes sure that Americans stay misinformed. A representative republic where we are not represented with our taxes going to fund wars of choice that we don’t support, while forcing democracy on the world, is an astounding state of affairs.

    If we are to survive, we need to find a way to gain control of the rigged election system in this banana republic.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  53. Cyrano says:

    All empires fall in love with themselves. They start falling apart when that love becomes unrequited.

  54. Sherman says:
    @Art

    Hey Genius

    Israel’s nukes are not hidden. I recently visited Dimona and my Mossad operative showed me the nuke pointed at your trailer park.

    Shalom
    Sherm

    • Replies: @neutral
    , @iffen
  55. Beckow says:
    @jacques sheete

    “Obama’s failure to stand up firmly to Putin in Ukraine”

    How would ‘standing up’ look in practise? More weapons and more losses fighting Russia that has local superiority? Or trying to preventively grab Crimea Russian Naval bases? Or a nuclear exchange?

    Obama did Maidan and Ukraine. He mindlessly started a conflict in an area where US simply cannot dream of prevailing in the long run.

    And for the Kenny fellow, we are still waiting for your explanation of how is Crimea different than Kosovo? Are you thinking of ‘reasons’? Or are you trying to dump NATO’s Kosovo adventure down the memory hole?

    • Replies: @L.K
  56. RobinG says:
    @jacques sheete

    Your boycott will have zero effect on the system.

    There’s a lot of chatter about an opening for 3rd parties, but this will only be successful if they COOPERATE. That means left and right together, not just all the progs huddled together like they are doing. If they hope for a swing vote to make real changes in the war economy, they’ll have to do some serious bargaining (like in Europe? Gasp, clutch pearls…) They will have to divvy things up and pool resources.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @poop
  57. geokat62 says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    If we are to survive, we need to find a way to gain control of the rigged election system in this banana republic.

    There is a ray of hope, C&D.

    I couldn’t believe my eyes when I came across this headline, Rep. Steve King: ‘Diversity is not our strength’

    Who would have expected a member of congress to come out and publicly reject the Kosher Kool-Aid mantra The Lobby has been propagating for the last several decades?

    It just goes to show that there are still some people left who truly understand the gravity of the situation enough to be willing to risk all to avoid falling into the abyss.

    Unzers should reach out to Rep. King and thank him for taking such a courageous position.

    P.S. All it takes is a trickle that could lead to a stream that eventually becomes a river that leads to an ocean.

    [MORE]

    Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) said that diversity is not America’s strength in a pair of tweets Friday.

    King linked to an article by the Voice of Europe Friday that quoted Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban saying that cultures shouldn’t be mixed, arguing that it’s “against common sense.”

    King tweeted the story with the message, “Diversity is not our strength.”
    “Assimilation has become a dirty word to the multiculturalist Left. Assimilation, not diversity, is our American strength,” he tweeted.

    Diversity is not our strength. Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban, “Mixing cultures will not lead to a higher quality of life but a lower one.” https://t.co/ZlMXzcc87w

    — Steve King (@SteveKingIA) December 8, 2017
    Assimilation has become a dirty word to the multiculturalist Left. Assimilation, not diversity, is our American strength.

    — Steve King (@SteveKingIA) December 8, 2017
    King, one of the most vocal critics of immigration in Congress, has made controversial statements in the past, including praise for far-right European politician Geert Wilders.

    He tweeted a cartoon of Wilders plugging a hole in a wall that read “Western civilization” in March.

    “Wilders understands that culture and demographics are our destiny. We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies,” King wrote at the time.

    The lawmaker has also defended former Maricopa Country Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who was convicted of criminal contempt of court for refusing to halt his immigration patrols but later pardoned by President Trump. King said that he doesn’t agree that “profiling is wrong.”

    His tweets Friday come as lawmakers are struggling with how to extend protections for recipients of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which President Trump has set to end in March.

    Democrats are demanding that Congress pass a fix for “Dreamers” before the end of the year and have pushed for it to be included in a year-end government spending bill.

    Trump made stronger immigration policies a cornerstone of his campaign, promising to build a wall on the Mexican border and railing against sanctuary cities, and has continued to advocate for those positions during his administration.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/363973-steve-king-diversity-isnt-americas-strength

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @geokat62
  58. KenH says:

    Trump views as his most solid group of supporters, i.e. American voters who tend to see, as he does, the world as a place where enemies and threats prevail, requiring an always truculent response and an overwhelming military to back up the words.

    I don’t agree. Trump won presidency by promising to do a 180 on foreign policy and stop being the world’s policeman and to divert more resources into national renewal. Hildabeast was the warmonger and darling of (((neoconservatism))).

    Yet during the speech I got the impression that we will remain the world’s policeman since the world, mainly Russia, N. Korea, Iran and China, is always plotting against the exceptional nation. So meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @SolontoCroesus
  59. @Carlton Meyer

    “Maintaining Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen in their existing forms is unnatural and serves Iran’s interests. There is nothing sacred about these countries’ borders, which seem to have been drawn by a drunk and blindfolded mapmaker. Indeed, in totally disregarding these borders, ISIS and Iran both have already demonstrated the anachronism and irrelevance of the borders.

    Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen are not nation-states as Americans understand them, but rather post-World War I artificial constructs, mostly created out of the ashes of the Ottoman Empire in a colossally failed experiment by international leaders.

    …President Trump should take the offensive to Iran. The current political structure of the Middle East serves Iran’s interests, and it’s time to upend it.”

    well damn, on the record too.

  60. neutral says:
    @Sherman

    This stupid attempt at humour is supposed to argue away the fact that Israeli nuclear weapons exist? Israel has nuclear weapons, and it supremely dangerous that this increasingly unhinged and theocratic regime has them.

  61. Z-man says:
    @KenH

    I don’t agree. Trump won presidency by promising to do a 180 on foreign policy and stop being the world’s policeman and to divert more resources into national renewal. Hildabeast was the warmonger and darling of (((neoconservatism))).

    Yep, that’s what I liked about Trump. It seems he’s going back to the same old same old (Criminal, debunked Zionist NEOCON policies). Let’s hope Buchanan and others of the same ‘America First’ philosophy get Trump’s ear shake some sense into him and put him back on track! But that hope is fading.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @yeah
  62. RobinG says:
    @WorkingClass

    What I was hearing was America First. For me that implied ending forever wars for Israel…

    You heard that because it was echoing inside your bubble, a small pustule on the America First rump.

    Do you really think the broader ranks of deplorables even know that our little anti-Israeli-wars commune exists? They’re busy blaming Mexicans, hating Arabs and Muslims, despising Little Rocket Man, etc.

    • Troll: Rurik
    • Replies: @L.K
    , @Z-man
    , @iffen
  63. Hunsdon says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Step one on making America great again is to make put America first again, to stop the ceaseless pointless destructive military adventurism. (Yeah, I got a pretty little red hat when I became a commie, and what of it?)

  64. Who Controls Foreign Policy?

    Who Controls Immigration Policy?

    Who Controls Trade Policy?

    Who Controls Monetary Policy?

    Who Controls The Mass Media?

    The WASP / Jew ruling class of the American Empire controls it all and they are making a mess of it.

    President Trump was elected primarily on his pledge to put Americans and America First in all matters. Voters were pleased to hear candidate Trump speak of implementing an immigration policy that puts the interests of American citizens ahead of the interests of random foreigners who wish to colonize the United States. The Bush and Clinton and Obama Organized Crime Syndicates had made it clear that the interests of foreigners must be put before the interests of citizens of the United States.

    The ruling class of the American Empire sends out politician whores such as Lindsey Graham to say that America must fight over there to make sure we don’t have to fight them here. Lindsey Graham and the ruling class never have to explain their nonsense statements because the corporate media is there to protect them. If we don’t bring them here, we won’t have to fight them here. But Graham wants to have both endless war all over the globe and he wants to continue the mass immigration policies that have greatly harmed the United States.

    IMMIGRATION is the issue that will destroy the WASP / Jew ruling class of the American Empire. President Trump is the first blast of the trumpet against the ruling class plan to use immigration as a demographic weapon to destroy the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.

    Sam Huntington Questions:

    Who are we as a nation?

    What are we fighting for?

    National Identity and Foreign Policy.

  65. L.K says:
    @Beckow

    The statement “Obama’s failure to stand up firmly to Putin in Ukraine undermines, probably irreversibly, “the credibility of America’s commitment to Europe” and thereby “transatlantic unity”” was written by the Kenny Troll, not by Jacques.

    Jacques’ reply to Kenny shows his disagreement, pay attention:

    As an O-bomb-a loather, I will admit that he did the right thing there, i.e., attempting to mind his own business for once.

    • Replies: @Beckow
  66. L.K says:
    @RobinG

    Unfortunately, I think you are correct.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  67. Z-man says:
    @RobinG

    Don’t underestimate the knowledge of deplorables, it’s the power they (we) lack.

  68. LA Dude says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Thanks for your reply, Phil. Respect for your service. It is noteworthy that you say you have worked in every country in the ME region, except for Israel, the country that is your primary subject of interest.

    When was the last time you were in Israel, assuming you have ever had a chance to visit?

    While I am American, I have lived and worked in Israel in the private sector and understand Hebrew. I have also been in the West Bank and have observed a very nice standard of living among the Arab population there, as the Unz.com columnist, Israel Shamir, has recently described it.

    The reason for my skepticism about your professional background was that your columns typically do not seem to feature empirical data, specialized regional knowledge, an understanding of Arabic/Farsi/Kurdish/Hebrew/Turkish, or unique source material beyond the MSM. Happy to stand corrected though if I missed it.

    • Replies: @anon
  69. @Carlton Meyer

    Keep on dreaming! In fact you should join the arm forces so your ass gets whopped in Iran too! Best of luck with your trumpism!

  70. @KenH

    Wasn’t it Confucius who said that the first thing that had to happen to reform a corrupt political climate was to correct the language.

    With your forbearance, KenH —–

    US is not a “policeman,” it’s an aggressor.

    Sanctions are not “diplomacy,” they are acts of war.

    Israel is not an “ally,” it is a leech; more specifically, it is the entity that has carried out a long-term subversion of the government, finances and people of the United States.

    And Phil, US is not really “searching” for a “National Security Strategy,” it’s deliberately avoiding confronting the real adversary to US interests and the people of the USA; namely, Israel.

    Fort Bragg is the largest military base in the world.
    Several thousand military vehicles — tanks, trucks, jeeps, etc. — are used or stored at Ft. Bragg.
    They are all sand-colored or desert camouflaged.
    Is the USA surrounded by deserts that US military forces are defending, or is Israel surrounded by deserts, and USA is defending Israel?

    • Replies: @David
    , @Rurik
  71. Frankie P says:
    @Brabantian

    Could it be? Could the proponents of Trump’s ability to play 4-D chess and beat these vampires at their own game be on the right track? Could we be shocked out of our socks by an eleventh hour 180 degree change by Trump, throwing a yuge spanner into the works of the corrupt and failing US political system, achieving “some pieces of great good that no US President ever did before”? In other words, could Trump eventually turn on the US oligarch Jews, their entrenched organizations, their political spiderwebs?

    First, your conclusions on Trump, his constant attacks on and the actual damage he has done to the corporate media are accurate. The most refreshing outcome of the 2016 election was the delegitimization of the corporate news in the eyes of a large percentage of American grass roots, people who FINALLY realized that they needed to put on their skeptical lenses when viewing ALL corporate news programs. IAFT! (It’s about f****** time!)

    Secondly, the outcome of Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and his announcement that the US would move their embassy there HAS resulted in a uniting of the Muslim world on this issue, even to the point where it has narrowed some of the sectarian divide between Sunni and Shia, of course with the exception of Saudi Arabia/Iran, and to be honest, that’s the one that matters the most right now. It is reassuring to see Turkey and Iran cooperating regionally. It has also done something else, something pointed out most accurately by Hassan Nasrallah: it has put the US and Israel on the other side of the line from the ENTIRE international community. Sheik Nasrallah went on to point out that the US has waged war against nations because the US claimed that the actions of these nations went against the wishes of the international community. Time to wage war on the US and Israel?

    All of this looks great, but the real question is: how is Trump going to make the move domestically? How is he going to convince the American people that there is a vampire squid parasite residing deep in the organs of the country, sucking out its strength and blood, and that this has been the situation for years? Will he push Ivanka to suddenly divorce Jared K? For in the end game, it will only be by a sheer tidal wave of grass roots support that he will be able to emerge victorious from the eventual battle with the dark side, winning the dance of death contest with the devil. All organs of power are lined up on the side of the devil: swamp Washington, the media, academia, the corporate world, even many (but certainly not ALL) parts of the military officer corps. It will be only a YUGE outpouring of good old fashioned citizen anger and ACTION that will enable the outcome that you and I are looking for. Spin me a scenario, dear Brabantian, to warm my heart during this holiday season.

    Frankie P

    • Replies: @Art
  72. Beckow says:
    @L.K

    I was reacting to Jacques saying that ‘Obama did the right thing in Ukraine‘. I don’t think he did: he started it, he made it into a mess, and then – not really having any other rational choice – he bailed and went for a stalemate.

    I do pay attention. If it was misunderstood, well, I messed up :)…

    ‘Kenny’ is a lost case, he repeats the ‘exceptional’ mantra and in general makes a fool out of himself. But, I think Obama should be held accountable for what he did in Ukraine, thousands of people died because of that.

  73. MarkinLA says:
    @Z-man

    I’d like to think that Trump is treading water until this Mueller witch-hunt is over. Right now any sane Democrat is so cowed by their leadership that they would all vote to impeach Trump without anything of substance. It would not take too many Israel-firster Republican congressmen to put the vote over the top.

    I hope I am right that sanity will return once Mueller is discredited but maybe that is just wishful thinking.

  74. Frankie P says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Phil,

    He tried. Everywhere he goes he is met with an utter lack of people willing to take him seriously. That shouldn’t surprise us though. I just wanted to mention how heartening it is when I make a comment on Israel-related articles at TAC calling for your immediate return and my voice is echoed by so many voices that soon a full half of the comment thread consists of calls for your reinstatement as a contributor there!

    Frankie P

  75. @RobinG

    Your boycott will have zero effect on the system.

    Heh heh heh…

    It just goes to show that you don’t know JS. It already has had an effect on the system and shall continue.

    I’ll be the first to admit that the effect is minimal, but it’s sure a lot better, and way more effective, than casting ballots and hoping for the best.

  76. wayfarer says:

    Muslim-American Drama Queens – Coming to a Neighborhood Near You.

    “Muslims Attack Christians in America, over Sharia Law.”

    Examine the lettering on their “security” shirts. It’s quite similar to the Hebrew alphabet’s calligraphy. source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_alphabet

    Gotta wonder, who may have a hidden hand in their “security” operations.

    ……….

  77. @anon

    But those yellow dog whore nations cling to Uncle Sam as pimp.

    Pimp keeps whores, whores keep to the pimp.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @denk
  78. When it comes to America’s reaction regarding Trump’s stupid and unnecessary Jerusalem decision, it’s the same sad story; “All the boys are out of step but my dear Johnny.”

  79. wayfarer says:

    “San Diego Fights Back: Says We Will Not Tolerate Sharia Law in Our Schools”

    “Parents Sue SD Unified School District, Over Islamophobia Bullying Policy”

    source: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/education/sd-me-islamaphobia-lawsuit-20170523-story.html

    Then the ADL immediately jumps to the head of the line, and re-engineers the program.

    “SDUSD overturned its “anti-Islamophobia” bullying prevention initiative and adopted a new program entitled “No Place for Hate,” which was developed by the Anti-Defamation League.”

    source: https://www.adl.org/
    source: https://www.fcdflegal.org/san-diego-unified-school-district-rescinds-anti-islamophobia-initiative/

    • Replies: @wayfarer
    , @Zumbuddi
    , @KenH
  80. @Brabantian

    Considering Trumps Jewish family connections, you’re probably giving him way too much credit. However, I agree that going head to head with the Establishment and AIPAC would be a sure losing strategy.

  81. Art says:
    @Frankie P

    It is reassuring to see Turkey and Iran cooperating regionally.

    The US generals have major bases in Qatar, UAR, Kuwait, Bahrain, Afghanistan, Iraq, Jorden, and they are now putting them in Syria.

    If the Arabs and Muslims ever get half together and find themselves in a fight with Israel – would these US bases be an asset or a liability? They are all sitting duck islands in a sea of enemies.

    If Israel starts a war – it would be hell on our boys.

    Have the generals thought about that?

    Think Peace — Art

  82. wayfarer says:
    @wayfarer

    [edit: previous post]

    It’s important to note, that only after a federal lawsuit was being drafted by the San Diego parents, who argued the “Islamophobia Bullying Policy” was unconstitutional and that failure of this illegal policy’s implementation was imminent, did the ADL step in and try to retake control.

    Remember the ADL is aligned with Zionist Israel, which is the primary driver behind millions of Muslim “refugees” flooding into Europe and the U.S.

  83. @Greg Bacon

    Russia spends a fraction of what the USA does on weapons and has superior jets, tanks, armored vehicles and from what happened to that US destroyer that got all of its EW capabilities shut off by ONE Russian jet flying overhead, they also appear to have superior electronic warfare weapons.

    So what’s Trump and the Pentagon’s reply? Spend more money, that will make Russia cower.

    It’s the same regarding Russia’s public education system vs the US’s public education system. The more money the US throws at a failed system, the worse the results.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  84. Art says:
    @Brabantian

    But perhaps Trump is more than a bumbling, arch-Zionist system-tied billionaire doing some good ‘by accident’ … perhaps Trump is someone who, very courageously – accepting even great damage to his own ego and reputation – has accepted the burden of personal partnership with the dark side, in order to do some pieces of great good that no US President ever did before

    Except for Ivanka and grand children – I could give that hopeful narrative a spin.

    But the most likely thing to happen, is that that Israel creates a false flag and they draw Trump into a war.

    Sorry!

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Another war would break America.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  85. @Philip Giraldi

    Surely the anti-interventionist message is an essential component in any honest initiative towards making America great again? Surely that was what was referred to in The Art of War where it says that military conflicts should be avoided wherever possible and where unavoidable be quick and decisive or they would drag on allowing corruption and profiteering which would result in great hardship and the people would suffer and become disillusioned with the leadership until the nation itself was imperilled?

    Did I miss something?

    • Agree: Grandpa Charlie
  86. Art says:
    @Frankie P

    I just wanted to mention how heartening it is when I make a comment on Israel-related articles at TAC calling for your immediate return and my voice is echoed by so many voices that soon a full half of the comment thread consists of calls for your reinstatement as a contributor there!

    Frankie P,

    Many kudos to you – we are going up in number – thanks!

    Art

  87. Avery says:
    @Greg Bacon

    {… and from what happened to that US destroyer that got all of its EW capabilities shut off by ONE Russian jet flying overhead,….}

    I have read this story repeated in many places, but there is NO proof it actually happened. I find it very hard to believe that a fighter jet electronics can generate enough power to shut off all the EW of a destroyer. A destroyer would have orders of magnitude more power generating capacity, including power generation for all its electronic/electrical equipment, and its EW systems, deep in the bowels of a metal clad ship, would be protected/defended against interference or countermeasures.

    {… they also appear to have superior electronic warfare weapons.}

    This one appears to be quite true for general EW systems.
    I read somewhere that the Russian Krasukha (or a version of it) was responsible for bringing down the RQ-170 US drone that Iranians captured intact. Again, no independent confirmation, but the EW power generating and jamming equation favours a truck vs a drone. And the fact that RQ-170 did not crash, rather landed clean, lends credence to it being jammed and taken over.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  88. RobinG says:
    @Frankie P

    Hey Frankie,

    TAC is moderated. I was never able to get a comment published, so I gave up. (And I’m pretty civil, so I couldn’t figure it out.) What does it say about TAC that they published all the comments for Phil?

    • Replies: @nsa
  89. Avery says:

    { the US’s public education system}

    US’s public mis-education system has been specifically re-purposed to NOT educate the studes, but to dumb them down. No longer need to teach hard sciences. Instead, teach various permutations of genders that supposedly exist, and are waiting to be discovered. Who needs facts and evidence when you can manufacture your own, and force everybody else to accept them as fact.

    You don’t want thinking people that might ask too many questions, and potentially upset the apple cart.
    You want borderline mentally-challenged taxpayers -cattle – that will stay within the confines of the electrified fences, concentrate on chewing grass, and keep producing milk and steaks for the cowboys – The Rulers.

    • Agree: Carroll Price
  90. @jacques sheete

    “Washington’s alleged need to lead has brought nothing but grief to the American people starting in Korea and continuing with Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and numerous lesser stops along the way in places like Somalia, Panama and before Syria.” — Giraldi

    I thought that Giraldi had given in to tendency to overgeneralize (and oversimplify?) by way of analyzing Korea as part of the ME — all about Greater Israel and so forth — but Jacques Sheete goes much farther toward a monomanic universe, from FDR all the way back to the original sin of paper currency:

    A similar argument could be made about Woody’s misguided adventures in Europe, McKinley’s antics against the Spanish, and Teddy’s actions regarding the Panama Canal Zone.” — J.S.

    I have no such grandiose design in mind, something more modest in scope: I simply seek to remind Giraldi and many other commenters lately that they might be a bit slapdash in lumping the Korea problem in with “Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and numerous lesser stops along the way in places like Somalia, Panama and before Syria” — as though Korea were just some kind of example problem to be worked by students from a workbook to accompany the main textbook, Kissinger’s USA and Realpolitik, from the 20th Century onward.

    “Need to lead” is problematic at best, as is the need to be led. But isn’t there something more to the story? Or is it just a matter of throwing it all away and starting over again? …. like suppose that Korea is the baby …. and the whole CIA-inspired neocon mess is the bathwater?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  91. poop says:
    @RobinG

    I have considered this 3rd party cooperation recently. Despite divergent views on a number of (largely red herring) issues, the Libertarians, Greens, Reform, Peace and Freedom, Socialists, and Constitution Parties are all united in opposing an interventionist foreign policy and reducing or virtually eliminating the federal national “security” apparatus.

    I do believe there is an opening, albeit a slim one, for a “super” third party to gain traction, with a focus on the issue of ending the empire and an agreement to consult and compromise on the rest of the “issues” with each other. I have no real idea how to facilitate this consortium of rag-tag disparate political philosophies (I am but a humble internet comment poster going by the handle of poop), but it seems to be worth a shot given that the current trajectory of our rulers is leading to unmitigated disaster.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  92. @Grandpa Charlie

    Nah, Giraldi is correct in his lumping, he just didn’t go far enough, while I went a bit far in lumping the need to lead with Massachusetts’ paper printing, but it’s all lumpable in the basket labeled, ” Government Perfidy.” I guess I should have changed by comment to address the need to plunder, which is what it’s all about. Leadership is a pretty convenient pretext for plunder, as always.

    Anyway, if the “need to lead ” concept doesn’t cut it for ya, you may want to revisit Beveridge’s speech, “The March of the Flag.”

    “It is a glorious history our God has bestowed upon His chosen people; a history heroic with faith in our mission and our future; a history of statesmen who flung the boundaries of the Republic out into unexplored lands and savage wilderness; a history of soldiers who carried the flag across blazing deserts and through the ranks of hostile mountains, even to the gates of sunset; a history of a multiplying people who overran a continent in half a century; a history of prophets who saw the consequences of evils inherited from the past and of martyrs who died to save us from them; a history divinely logical, in the process of whose tremendous reasoning we find ourselves to-day.”

    Albert J. Beveridge,
    THE MARCH OF THE FLAG
    September 1898

    http://voicesofdemocracy.umd.edu/beveridge-march-of-the-flag-speech-text/

  93. @poop

    I have considered this 3rd party cooperation recently.

    Well bless yer precious lil pea-pickin heart!

    I considered it back in the ’70s. Gave up on the idea when the Libertarian Party of the time came begging because it couldn’t pay its bills.

    I thought to my stupid lil self…why would I support a bankrupt party in it’s attempt to get a chance to run the already bankrupt country? My lil pea brain reasoned that if they couldn’t run a party responsibly, they probably wouldn’t be the best bets to run the country.

    I could still be wrong, tho, and I wish you ‘n Robin godspeed ‘n goodtimes!

  94. @Art

    Another war would break America.

    Art, America was broken only about 5 short years after the 1783 Treaty of Paris. After that the spirit of the thing vanished forever and we merely exchanged one yoke for another, and it’s become heavier with the passage of time.

    What we now have is AINO.

  95. Bill Jones says: • Website
    @Avery

    Yet the ship ran away, never to return.

    • Replies: @Avery
  96. Zumbuddi says:
    @wayfarer

    Congratulations Suckers.
    Vent your spleen at Muslims while licking the boots of the (((elites))) who created their refugee & migrant sitiation.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @wayfarer
  97. nsa says:
    @RobinG

    Unz has the same size readership as The American Cuck, except the Cuck median demographic is probably around 78 years old.. The Cuck reflects everything wrong with Conservatism Inc and probably uses guest moderators from the ADL, as any comment even remotely anti jooie elite is axed immediately. Humble nsa managed to get permanently banned for making fun of Dreher (Saint Rod)…….for awhile his holiness was posting pictures of himself in various do-gooder poses proving he is more righteous than the rest of us. My favorite was St. Rod ladling out some kind of food bank slop to various obese swamp rat refugees after their annual flood. Note that Unz and TACuck have little effect on the culture as compared to the massively larger jooie alternative sites like Drudge, Breitbart, etc.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Carroll Price
  98. renfro says:

    In other words, could Trump eventually turn on the US oligarch Jews, their entrenched organizations, their political spiderwebs?

    Nope.

    Trump and Kushner are mobbed up to the gills. And Trump is going to do as he is told.

    WBAL Baltimore-Nov 29, 2017

    The real estate firm owned by Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump’s son-in-law, is asking a federal judge to protect the names of investors as the firm … Kushner’s firms are fighting the lawsuit and recently asked a federal judge for an order that keeps the names of the company’s investors confidential

    And this is why ..:

    Lev Leviev

    ‘If the name of Lev Leviev, which has come up in recent reports about the investigations of Jared Kushner’s Russian connections, rings familiar, it’s not without good reason
    The Guardian this week reported on several joint business ventures that Prevezon undertook with Leviev’s Africa-Israel Investments, both in the U.S. and Europe, and which were later alleged to be vehicles for money-laundering by Prevezon. In May, two days before the trial was due to start, Prevezon settled out of court for $6 million, said the report, which explored the “overlapping connections” between Leviev and Kushner. Prevezon had been investigated for the suspected laundering of hundreds of millions of dollars taken in tax fraud from the Russian treasury, but as part of the settlement deal was not required to admit guilt. Prosecutors claimed that Prevezon was using real estate deals to launder the cash

    Raz Steinmetz

    The Kushner Companies, would spend about $190 million over the next few months on dozens of apartment buildings in tony Lower Manhattan neighborhoods including the East Village, the West Village and SoHo. For much of the roughly $50 million in down payments, Mr. Kushner turned to an undisclosed overseas partner. Public records and shell companies shield the investor’s identity. But, it turns out, the money came from a member of Israel’s Steinmetz family, which built a fortune as one of the world’s leading diamond traders. A Kushner Companies spokeswoman and several Steinmetz representatives say Raz Steinmetz, 53, was behind the deals. His uncle, and the family’s most prominent figure, is the billionaire Beny Steinmetz, who is under scrutiny by law enforcement authorities in four countries.

    Daniel Steinmetz

    In November 2012, The Financial Times reported on the Guinea bribery investigation, setting off coverage around the world. Steinmetz, owner of Steinmetz diamonds Botswana, may have stashed away $264 million in a protected Swiss bank account to evade taxes. Steinmetz was alleged to have shared the account with *Dan Gertler,* with whom he had partnerships in the Congo. Steinmetz was said to have controlled half a billion dollars at the bank between 2006 and 2007.Steinmetz isn’t the only one in the diamond business that is getting in trouble in the HSBC investigation, but Lev Leviev and Maurice Tempelsman are also coming under scrutiny. Since Belgian authorities charged HSBC with fraud and money laundering over its dealings with certain diamond dealers, Russian-Israeli billionaire Lev Leviev, Maurice Tempelsman and his company Lazare Kaplan International might be implicated.

    *Beny Steinmetz..

    Uncle of Raz , brother of Daniel and partner with Lev Leviev
    Beny Steinmetz’s legal problems began to surface a few weeks after the first investment with the Kushner company.The Kushner Companies made an even bigger deal with the Raz Steinmetz team a few months later, in January 2013, spending about $130 million on a portfolio of 17 apartment buildings across Lower Manhattan. A few weeks later, a BSG Resources representative named Frederic Cilins — meeting in a diner at the Jacksonville, Fla., airport — urged Ms. Touré, by then the widow of the Guinean president, to destroy paperwork documenting alleged bribes.
    Beny Steinmetz was arrested in August in Israel

    ALL these people loaned money to Kushner. All are Jews, with Russian and Ukrainian connections
    ALL are under investigation for money laundering, tax evasion in off shore accounts,, bribery, etc etc.
    ALL of Kushner loans have come from these guys plus the Bank of Israel, plus Deutsche Bank in Germany that was laundering Russian money thru their Russian branch passing it to Cyprus and other off shore investment entities to NY and London real estate deals.
    ALL of them are interconnected with each other.

    Kushner’s connection to the Chabah Jews, namely Lev Leviev, became Trumps connection also.
    Both Kushner and Trump, who had had 4 bankruptcies already, were desperate for loans after the 2008 RE crash and US banks would not do business with either of them..
    That Leviev connection connected both Kushner and Trump to the other wheeler dealer Jews above. Leviev himself was in money trouble from bad real estate deals and looking for money to keep his Africa-Israel company afloat.
    That was the beginning of the partnerships and loans between the money laundering Russian Israeli Jews and then they steered Kushner and Trump to Deutsche bank that was laundering the Russian money.

    If Mueller gets Trump he’s going to have to go thru and expose the Jewish criminal fraction above—-which is just the bottom rung of the larger Russian money laundering gang at the state owned Russian VTA bank.

  99. RobinG says:
    @nsa

    Do you have data? What’s your source? How many people read this column weekly? [That, I would really like to know.] How many people read TAC and UR? There are plenty of old people here. What’s the basis for your guess about TAC?

    The point of my question was that TAC, which has terminated Phil, nevertheless chooses to publish numerous comments in his support. (h/t to Frankie P) Curious.

    • Replies: @nsa
  100. Alden says:
    @jacques sheete

    The 1690 raid on Quebec is very interesting. I’ll try to find out more about it Was it approved by the British government? Or did the raiders just set out on their own?

  101. nsa says:
    @RobinG

    Go to webstatsdomain.org. Unz.com is ranked #33,677 in the world. theamericancuck is ranked #38,938 in the world. drudgereport.com is rated #709 in the world. These are “alexa rankings” so you will have to research their methodology. Independent research here indicates theamericancuck.com ranks in the top ten for visits by residents of nursing homes.

  102. I happened to view a Trump promo last evening. The one with about a dozen people thanking the president for doing things in the remarkable fashion he does. One female had an example giving thanks for Trump’s ‘supporting Israel.’ She was probably extra appreciative of the president given the fact that a majority of Americans do not want to see the US Embassy moved to Jerusalem.

    And Bari Weiss (ex of the WSJ) noted the optics of Nikki Haley at the UN vote. She apparently viewed it as the start of “(excellent art for) Haley 2020″ which will likely now be reflected in the editorial pages of the NY Times which she -now- edits.

  103. Z-man says:
    @renfro

    Good expose. He’s up to his neck in Jooz, lol.

  104. @nsa

    Conservatism Inc and probably uses guest moderators from the ADL, as any comment even remotely anti jooie elite is axed immediately.

    It’s apparently more simple (and cheaper) than that. Rather than hire monitors, it appears that TAC has simply compiled a list of regular Unz commenters and automatically blocks comments coming from anyone on the list.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  105. @Philip Giraldi

    Phil nails it.

    It was always a long shot – things have come to such a baleful pass in our country – that a Donald Trump could only be a last, worst hope. So it’s confirmed with his capitulation there can be no hope for change from elite policies that beggar the American people.

    About all that’s left to take satisfaction from is that despite the cave-ins, those elites still hate him and want him impeached. That would be a case of the chickens coming home to roost, a deep state regime change right here at home. Maybe it would be a good thing, ending the pretense of democratic accountability, exposing the truth of how our nation became a cesspool of oligarchy. Admitting we’ve hit bottom could be the recognition that our leaders’ addiction to empire has ruined our notion of republic.

  106. @Frankie P

    I’ve written them myself. Last time I looked, the author archive was still there, though.

  107. @Carroll Price

    ” The more money the US throws at a failed system, the worse the results”

    Wrong : the correct depiction being = The more money the US throws at a failed DEMOCRAT system, the worse it gets.

    Look, the US edumacation system has been run and ruined exclusively by DEMOCRATS over the last sixty years.

    97 % of all teachers, professors and administrators are Democrats, and these Democrat crazies have subverted and converted the school/universities into marxist indoctrination camps.

    I am not saying that the Republicans are much better, however the destructive marxist angle in not prevalent amongst Republicans, such as it is amongst Democrats, period.

    The big question is : How long can Hillsdale hold out.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro jazz artist.

  108. wayfarer says:
    @Zumbuddi

    Don’t forget to overlook these members, of humanity’s “elite.”

    Abrahamism, the world’s oldest racket;

    infringing on mankind’s free will for 2700 years;

    providing its “shepherds” with a thimble full of love/wisdom, and the “sacred” least-common-denominator with which to produce equivalent-fractions in the form of blind followers.

    …..
    …..

    • Replies: @Moi
    , @jacques sheete
  109. @Minnesota Mary

    I think it would be more reasonable to expect Jonah Goldberg to BE a wife than to have a wife. In fact, it would be reasonable to assume that Jonah is Nikki Haley’s wife.

  110. @Wally

    While Trump was campaigning, I commented somewhere that nothing he said should be taken as representative of his personal beliefs. His speeches, after all, were written for him by others. It seems likely to me that those “others” had their own axes to grind and handed their ideas off to Trump in speeches written for him so that he could present them as his own.

    Trump doesn’t seem to remember most of what he promised while campaigning.

  111. @renfro

    Since Belgian authorities charged HSBC with fraud and money laundering [in 2014] over its dealings with certain diamond dealers, Russian-Israeli billionaire Lev Leviev, Maurice Tempelsman and his company Lazare Kaplan International might be implicated.

    Stuart A. Levey was the first Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence within the United States Department of the Treasury. He was sworn in on July 21, 2004 as a political appointee of President George W. Bush.. . . Levey played a central role in the efforts to combat North Korea’s and Iran’s allegedly illicit conduct in the international financial system. Prior to his nomination, Levey served as the Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General at the U.S. Department of Justice. . . . He was succeeded by [his former law partner] David S. Cohen. In January 2012, Levey joined HSBC as the bank’s Chief Legal Officer.

    According to James Petras, who has closely followed Levey’s career, “Levey got his Treasury job largely because the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) put the position in place and then lobbied successfully for his appointment.”

    During Levey’s tenure, HSBC has dodged numerous charges of fraud and money laundering.

    Outrageous HSBC Settlement Proves the Drug War Is a Joke -Matt Taibi

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/outrageous-hsbc-settlement-proves-the-drug-war-is-a-joke-20121213

    If you’re suspected of drug involvement, America takes your house; HSBC admits to laundering cartel billions, loses five weeks’ income and execs have to partially defer bonuses

    If you’ve ever been arrested on a drug charge, if you’ve ever spent even a day in jail for having a stem of marijuana in your pocket or “drug paraphernalia” in your gym bag, Assistant Attorney General and longtime Bill Clinton pal Lanny Breuer has a message for you: Bite me.

    Breuer this week signed off on a settlement deal with the British banking giant HSBC that is the ultimate insult to every ordinary person who’s ever had his life altered by a narcotics charge. Despite the fact that HSBC admitted to laundering billions of dollars for Colombian and Mexican drug cartels (among others) and violating a host of important banking laws (from the Bank Secrecy Act to the Trading With the Enemy Act), Breuer and his Justice Department elected not to pursue criminal prosecutions of the bank, opting instead for a “record” financial settlement of $1.9 billion, which as one analyst noted is about five weeks of income for the bank.

    nb: Matt Taibbi: The Vampire Squid Occupies Trump’s White House
    After running against Goldman as a candidate, Donald Trump licks the boots of the world’s largest investment bank

    HSBC charged in Belgium over money laundering, tax fraud | Reuters

    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-hsbc-belgium-courts/hsbc-charged-in-belgium-over-money-laundering-tax-fraud-idUKKCN0J119H20141117

    Nov 17, 2014 – L) with tax fraud and money laundering, accusing the British-based bank of offering diamond dealers and other wealthy clients ways of hiding cash and evading tax. Prosecutors said on Monday the charges related to business carried out by a Swiss unit of HSBC for wealth management clients, many of them from the large diamond trade in the northern Belgian city of Antwerp.

    Levey’s work in US Treasury Dept. took a different approach:

    Levey is credited with developing and executing financial strategies to counter threats to U.S. national security and protect the integrity of the international financial system. . . . [known as The Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence (TFI). TFI oversees the Office of Terrorist Financing and Financial Crimes, the Office of Intelligence and Analysis, the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC), the Financial Crime Enforcement Network and the Treasury Executive Office for Asset Forfeiture.

    The U.S. Treasury Department is the only national finance ministry with its own in-house intelligence agency, with offices around the world, including Islamabad and Abu Dhabi] . . . Levey has also been recognized for his efforts in leading the U.S. government’s efforts to disrupt financial networks supporting terrorist organizations; developing and implementing financial measures against proliferators of weapons of mass destruction; and playing a central role in U.S. strategies to pressure the regimes in North Korea, Iran and elsewhere. He is credited, in particular, with designing the financial strategy that resulted in tremendous pressure on Iran’s economy and its isolation from the international financial system.

    One of Levey’s innovations was harnessing the private sector to enhance the effectiveness of governmental measures. He “led an effort to convince foreign banks to cease conducting business with Iran until that country agreed to comply with international banking standards. By showing companies and banks that doing business in Iran has financial and diplomatic repercussions, he has convinced corporations to cut off business with Iran.”

    Juan Zarate, charter member of Levey’s “guerrillas in grey suits” that combines US Treasury Department functions with spying and counter-terrorism, is now a member of “the Board that oversees the Vatican’s Institute for the Works of Religion (“IOR”), a move announced by Cardinal Pell of the Vatican Finance Ministry as part of Pope Francis I’s efforts to clean up the finances of the Vatican.”

    Another former member of Levey’s unique US Treasury -cum – spy agency, Katherine Bauer, former Treasury Department Assistant Director of Terrorist Financing and Financial Crimes in the Obama Administration, was among the 55 members of a delegation organized by AIPAC-spin-off Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP) that Robert Satloff led recently.
    According to Satloff,

    The purpose of the trip was really to decide for ourselves as specialists and the leaders of the Washington Institute how real and serious are the prospect of change in these countries. How real and serious and considered carefully is the regional strategy pursued by these capitals and for us to decide for ourselves whether when all told the Obama critique that this is a swamp which the United States should stay out of, or alternatively, is this a part of the world where we should be deeply engaged in order to assist the parties for their own benefit and for our national interest?

    • Replies: @Art
    , @renfro
  112. Avery says:
    @Bill Jones

    {Yet the ship ran away, never to return.}

    From what I read in non-MSM (some Russian) sources, it was because Russian coastal defense had installed many new, modern anti-ship missile batteries on Crimea’s coastline, and they let the destroyer know they were being tracked and were in their sights. Don’t know how it was done, but apparently the US destroyer’s captain took it seriously.

  113. iffen says:

    the world as a place where enemies and threats prevail, requiring an always truculent response and an overwhelming military to back up the words.

    … the world as a place where enemies and threats prevail, requiring … an overwhelming military …

    Yes, this.

  114. Moi says:
    @wayfarer

    Your bigotry and ignorance runneth over.

  115. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    Who would have expected a member of congress to come out and publicly reject the Kosher Kool-Aid mantra The Lobby has been propagating for the last several decades?

    Anyone with a minimal reading comprehension level and who maintains even a passing knowledge of American politics could have anticipated Rep. King’s position.

  116. Rurik says:

    “We will compete with all tools of national power to ensure that regions of the world are not dominated by one power.”

    I fixed it..

    We will compete with all tools of national power to ensure that regions of the world are only dominated by one power.”

    >>><<<

    .. the U.S. will use force worldwide to make sure that only Washington can dominate …

    I suspect that global domination is, was and will always be the game. As long as there’s a Putin to thumb his nose at the Fiend, ((they’re)) going to try to crush such resistance. It’s the people of the planet vs. the zio-fiend.

    “An America that is safe, prosperous, and free at home is an America with the strength, confidence, and will to lead abroad. It is an America that can preserve peace, uphold liberty, and create enduring advantages for the American people. Putting America first is the duty of our government and the foundation for U.S. leadership in the world. A strong America is in the vital interests of not only the American people, but also those around the world who want to partner with the United States in pursuit of shared interests, values, and aspirations.”

    sounds like they got David Frum and Max Boot to torture the English language to mean its opposite.. so that ‘America first’, actually means America last = or ‘the exceptional people’ who need to spill their blood and treasure all over the globe (slaughtering untold innocents) in pursuit of Israeli, Jewish supremacism/domination.

    How tiresome this has come to be, and transparent.

    we all know by now that such language means = America as global bully/golem destroying nations, lynching world leaders and slaughtering and maiming and displacing millions upon millions to bolster Israel and terrorize the planet into submission to Bibi/Rothschild. Duh

    for how long are the people of the planet going to countenance this?

    And Washington’s alleged need to lead has brought nothing but grief to the American people starting in Korea and continuing with Vietnam,

    you can go back to the world wars too

    The destruction and subsequent enslavement of Russia and Europe has brought us to where we are today. The West needs a Putin to wrest itself from the demon’s grip. Our hope was that Trump would end up being that Putin.

    They are determined to make economies less free and less fair, to grow their militaries, and to control information and data to repress their societies and expand their influence.

    I once read that a [Zionist] Jew will shout at you to ‘stop kicking him’ – as he’s kicking you

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  117. iffen says:
    @Sherman

    You keep trying to taint good, honest trailer park people by asserting an association with Art. Trailer park people are frequently criticized for having an insufficient appreciation of the fine Arts. I am pretty sure that they don’t need an association with the Jew-hater Arts of the world.

    • Replies: @Art
  118. @Moi

    Moi, How do you define or describe the significance of Abraham, from your point of view?

  119. iffen says:
    @RobinG

    a small pustule on the America First rump

    a small pustule?

    RobinG, you make it hard for some of us to be an ally.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  120. @Carroll Price

    …except for Michael Kenny who appears regularly on both venues.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  121. wayfarer says:
    @Moi

    bigot (noun): a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

    synonyms: chauvinist, partisan, sectarian; racist, sexist, homophobe, dogmatist.

    In fact, we’re both “bigots.”

    Seeing that we don’t agree with one another’s opinions and/or dogmatisms.

    As for Muslims being “dogmatists,” well they get to be included as bigots as well.

    And don’t forget this makes the “prophet Muhammad,” a bigot too.

    Seems difficult to escape bigotry, in this ignorant world.

    source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot
    source: http://www.islamic-laws.com/download/Islaamic_Sharia_Law_sunni.pdf

  122. Art says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Words fail – the parasites have consumed the host. Washington is a cesspool of Jews.

    The Jews do crimes – pay fines – then go out and steal some more. No Jew goes to jail.

    We are helpless bystanders in our own country. Everyone lives in fear of the Jew juggernaut that is the US government. Except for one vote in the Supreme Court – all of the US government is in the hands of the Jew parasites. The congress, the generals, and the administrations are helplessly infected with Jews.

    A crash is required – better now then latter?

    Think Peace —- Art

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  123. Rurik says:
    @Michael Kenny

    Obama’s failure to stand up firmly to Putin in Ukraine undermines, probably irreversibly, “the credibility of America’s commitment to Europe”

    every now and then there’s a gem

    a statement so over-the-top asinine, that it reminds me why it’s often fun to read the Unz comments, if for no other reason than for the breathtaking stupidity they can demonstrate

    • Replies: @WHAT
  124. Art says:
    @iffen

    Say effin,

    As a Not-Jew, are you a race unto yourself? The Jews say they are a race unto themselves.

    Ninety five percent of your comments call us all stupid – you say we are all 88’s.

    As a Not-Jew, are you a race in between the Jews and us?

    Please inform.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. How goes it – being a champion of parasites?

  125. Rurik says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    But most were hearing “Make America Great Again” with all that implies.

    I think for most of Les Deplorables it meant remembering the forgotten man

    making America great again meant they would be able to have some hope that their children had a future in America

    Trump’s message of MAGA was about this:

    NOT this:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5FutDOUkAEoj92.jpg:large

    if anything, I think it was a repudiation of war mongering (for Israel)

    and in the defense of those who wanted war, and were willing to go fight (like Pat Tillman and so many others…)

    they actually believed all the lies we were told about 9/11, and how the Muslim terrorists = ‘especially the Palestinians) hated us all and wanted to kill us all because we were free

    I feel in fairness to those duped Americans, (and I suspect we all were at one time convinced that Muslims had something to do with 9/11), look how few people are willing to go on record today and say publically that 9/11 was an inside job?!

    I would not suggest that Mr. Giraldi do so, (he’s shown enough [heroic] courage already) but in fairness to those who were/are angry about that singular atrocity, how can you blame them for wanting to kill the people who did that?!

    If they actually believe it was Muslims who hate our freedom and want to kill us for being infidels, then a strong and even belligerent foreign policy sort of makes sense, no?

    so my only humble point is that unless or until people are willing to repudiate the lies they tell about Muslims doing 9/11, then they can hardly blame the people who want to protect themselves from such acts of terror- by reining in the regimes in the Middle East that promote terror, as the ((liars)) (and people who actually did perpetrate 9/11) keep telling us all is Iran now.

    we were dragged into the world wars by Zionist treachery, false flag attacks and devil’s lies

    and now we’re being dragged into The Endless WarsⓊ by Zionist treachery, false flag attacks and devil’s lies

    perhaps if we repudiate the lies, expose the criminals who actually perpetrated the heinous crimes and tell the truth about all the lies and scheming and Jewish supremacist treachery, we’ll find a light at the end of the tunnel and put a stake in the black heart of the Fiend

    is all I’m sayin

  126. Once again, I want to express my appreciation for data sets. The included NSS is helpful.

    In my view, outside terrorists do not pose as great a threat as our porous borders. So I am hopeful that the immigration initiatives will be employed.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  127. Rurik says:
    @L.K

    she’s not correct

    workingclass is one of the most astute commenters at this site

    I’ve just sort of noticed that Unz’s own little schoolmarm has a thinly veiled bitterness for anyone who might be sympathetic to those irredeemable alt-righters -

    (working class white guys who’re tired of getting fucked over by every institution of the kosher system)

    echoing inside your bubble, a small pustule on the America First rump.

    it preens like a Christian, but I’ve never heard a Christian lady speak that way

    there is a deep and abiding gall there that I’ve been noticing is festering

  128. Rurik says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    …was to correct the language.

    Israel is not an “ally,” it is a leech;

    Hey S2C

    in the spirit of your exhortation,

    Israel is not an ally, rather it is our enemy

    indeed, a more intractable, motivated, insidious, nefarious, sinister and committed enemy it would be impossible to even construct were it not a reality

    if the USA (and Western civilization of which the US is a part) is to die off and rot away, it will be for no other reason than due to the endemic hatred and genocidal intentions of our putative ‘ally’

    who never rests in it’s deceitful, villainous designs to see us weakened and ultimately destroyed

    and that goes for Muslims, Christians, and anyone and everyone else who doesn’t bow their heads to perfidious ((Zion))

    for the record ;)

    • Replies: @geokat62
  129. @EliteCommInc.

    The real terrorists respect no borders — they have none of their own, for example; and in any event, they’re already in the USA in the highest, most carefully guarded positions of power and influence.

    here

  130. Rurik says:
    @Frankie P

    TAC calling for your immediate return and my voice is echoed by so many voices that soon a full half of the comment thread consists of calls for your reinstatement as a contributor there

    Phil should refuse imho

    TAC should die an ignoble death by attrition of its honorable readers and staff

    it should become a wasteland and warning of what will happen when your editorial staff are venal cowards and traitors, licking the shekels out of the hands of the neocons

    let all the lucid and cogent writers come to Unz and bring their readership with them

    let Unz set the example for bold and proud, honest and gutsy journalism and commentary

    let the rats drown in their lies and sniveling avarice

  131. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @iffen

    iffen’s pet Rotweiler pooped on the rug again.

    soooo cute

    DAMASCUS, SYRIA (2:50 A.M)- Elected Israeli Knesset member ‘Oren Hazen’, pulled over a bus filled with Palestinian mothers hoping to visit their imprisoned sons, this Monday, shouting profanities at them and turning the Bus around.

    The bus was heading to ‘Nafha prison’, from the besieged Gaza Strip, when it was intercepted and pulled over by the hysterical Oren Hazen, followed on board by Israeli press.

    Hazen’s move has been condemned by the ‘Red Cross’, which on Monday, said that Israel has a duty to ensure the safe passage and dignity of Palestinian families visiting their relatives in prison.

    Videos of the incident were met with outrage throughout the outer world, whereas within Israel it garnered the Israeli legislator much support and positive attention. Hazen shouted slurs at the old women on board, stating that they “raised their children to become terrorists”, that their children are “dogs” and that they “belong in the ground”. Hazen also threatened that if the women were to attempt to see their children again, they would do so at great difficulty.

    Oren Hazen, is accused of being a Jewish Supremacist and has in the past called for the execution of family members, of what he calls, “Arab terrorists”.

    Hazen’s harsh act, was committed near the Erez border crossing (between Gaza and Israel) and has been dubbed by some as a publicity stunt, with him anticipating the attention he would inevitably receive from Israel’s right wing society.

    • Replies: @iffen
  132. @Art

    Corbett Report offers a word of Hope; that word is Anastrophe

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/mIAmx6EPk3w/

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Art
  133. @Alden

    I’m happy that you found it interesting and you ask a very good question, the answer to which I cannot provide, due to my ignorance about that specific question.

    My main point was intended to present the idea that American government,(even colonial ones) never were moral entities. The debt incurred, and the promises made to legitimize the paper, were never repaid or fulfilled; the little guy (specifically the fighters paid with the worthless stuff) took it on the chin yet again.

    BTW, since you seem to be a curious sort (a trait that I admire and encourage), you may want to grab yourself a copy of Dillon’s very informative and delightful read about the Treaty of Versailles and how it came to be, available on line:

    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/The_Inside_Story_Of_The_Peace_Conference-Dr-EJ_Dillon-1920-526pgs-POL.pdf

    It’s value goes far beyond the narrow subject of the treaty itself and gives extremely valuable insight about both the leadership imperative that Giraldi mentioned, but how politicians view themselves and the world they intend to control as well as the haphazard methods used to decide on and implement policies. I can attest to the veracity of his concepts from personal observation of the legislative processes. They are ineffably appalling.

    The book also supports my contention that the “alleged need to lead” started long before the Korean war, and confirms that Wilson was possessed by the mission to impose his high ideals on the rest of the world, and that it ultimately led to many disasters as we all now know.

    • Replies: @Alden
  134. TAC should die an ignoble death by attrition of its honorable readers and staff

    I advocate that for the whole fetid system. It’s what I meant by boycotting it as much as possible. (My apologies to Robin! ;) )

    • Replies: @Rurik
  135. @Rurik

    workingclass is one of the most astute commenters at this site

    I second that and have noticed an unfortunate lack of contributions from that superb source. The guy knows his stuff and states it much better than I ever could.

  136. geokat62 says:
    @Rurik

    … and that goes for Muslims, Christians, and anyone and everyone else…

    Hey, Rurik. Going forward, I’d recommend using my shorthand for the same expression – i.e., The Dumb Goyim.

    • Agree: Rurik
  137. KenH says:
    @wayfarer

    I love those clowns bemoaning special anti-bullying designed to help Muslims but then claim that Jews are the most poisecuted (sic) religion in America and thus insinuating that if any group deserves special status in public schools it is they. Their invocation of church and state separation go out the window where Jews are concerned.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @wayfarer
  138. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    the whole fetid system

    can’t hardly argue with that!

    (My apologies to Robin! ;) )

    Robin has contributed much

    but then she feels the need to troll other contributors of good faith here for motivations that escape me

    I hope the bile passes

    I hate it when political, philosophical forums get bogged down by distractions over personalities, but when people are being trolled for no apparent reason, one has to wonder why, no?

  139. @Rurik

    With all respect, Rurik — your comments are so spot-on they make me quake in my boots.

    But regarding RobinG –

    I scarcely knew my aunt, she lived some distance and did not speak English.
    But Dad used to talk of one of her most memorable phrases — “I right, You wrong.”

    You wrong about RobinG.

    RobinG might get feisty, or despairing, at times, but you can count on RobinG to have Phil’s back, and that’s what counts. It’s what we UFers would be well-advised to organize around

    (sheesh. In a minute I’m gonna break out singing)

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Rurik
  140. RobinG says:
    @Carroll Price

    Don’t forget Fran Macadam (who maybe gets a pass for being such a consistent downer), and probably others we aren’t aware of.

  141. RobinG says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Well sure, but did you notice the original broadcast date, 2011, so….. Everyone says it’s coming, but don’t hold your breath. (The Mahdi may get here first, lol.)

    Do I remember that you had any evidence about the St. Louis, the shipload of Jews who had fled Europe that was not allowed to land in US…. evidence of Zionists in the US (or elsewhere) who lobbied against giving them entry here, or do I imagine that? (Relevant to Jr.High history project, as discussed at Christmas party.) If so, would appreciate reference(s).

  142. @KenH

    Their invocation of church and state separation go out the window where Jews are concerned.

    Like most other laws, separation of Church(Synagogue) and State does not apply to Jews:

    Pulpit Rabbis at Policy Conference [from AD 2016]

    https://www.aipac.org/connect/communities/your-synagogue/pulpit-rabbis-at-policy-conference

    In order to provide you with exclusive opportunities to learn from top scholars and policy makers [whose policy??] at Policy Conference, AIPAC’s Synagogue Initiative offers a variety of programs designed specifically for pulpit rabbis. From conversations with leading scholars and top decision makers to informal discussions with your rabbinical colleagues, the clergy experience at the AIPAC Policy Conference is unlike any other.

    Pulpit rabbis at Policy Conference are given exclusive access to special sessions with keynote speakers. In the past, these speakers have included:

    Michael Oren, Israeli Ambassador to the United States
    Lord Jonathan Sacks, Chief Rabbi of the United Hebrew Congregations of the Commonwealth
    Susan Rice, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations
    Natan Sharansky, former Israeli politician and author
    Tzipi Livini, then-opposition leader of Israel’s Knesset
    Stuart Levey, former Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence
    Ephraim Sneh, former Israeli Deputy Defense Minister

    In addition, the Synagogue Initiative conducts workshops for rabbis during the conference that have focused on topics such as how to engage Israel in the congregation, Christian support for Israel, and bringing pro-Israel advocacy to the congregation.

    • Replies: @KenH
  143. WHAT says:
    @Rurik

    Problem is, it always says the same thing, this typical neocohen schizophrenic babble. I`m all for entertaining trolls, but this isn`t one.

  144. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    they make me quake in my boots.

    Keep’em shined, ’tis the season of miracles.

    I can understand keeping the boots at the ready, but why are you promoting Hillary Clinton’s theme song?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  145. iffen says:
    @anonymous

    with him anticipating the attention he would inevitably receive from Israel’s right wing society.

    Not to mention the attention paid by neo-Nazis and Jew-haters worldwide.

    • Replies: @neutral
  146. iffen says:
    @RobinG

    the shipload of Jews who had fled Europe that was not allowed to land in US

    Where’s an omnipotent lobby when you need one?

  147. @wayfarer

    The dude in the second video said that because of Hitler 40 million died. That’s wide of the mark by a long shot. Hitler was not the cause of WW2.

    The war was caused by the usual suspects and I would love the opportunity to talk with him about it.

    Essentially, Hitler was building up his country so that it could defend itself from being treated like many who went before it. In specific terms, he wanted Germany to be able to defend itself from the Bolshie menace, supposedly the menace that the US, Britain and France were also worried about. He would have been happy to ally with all three, but they wouldn’t have it; they preferred to see Germany sacrificed to the international banker-backed monstrosity.

    Fortunately for the Soviet people, Stalin was favored by the capitalists, was able to play them like a skin flute, and eliminate many of the old bloodthirsty Bolshies as well.

    I wish someone could get the message to the guy in the vid, who seems to have a decent bead on reality otherwise.

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  148. LA Dude says:
    @Art

    Israel is the most artificial state of them all.

    That is straight-up dumb. What is your definition of artificial? The same Hebrew language spoken today by Israeli scientists, engineers, journalists, et al can be found engraved in 2,000 year old extant structures and ancient coins strewn across the land, which are easy for any hiker today in Israel to come across, particularly in the Judea and Samaria region. (If Phil Giraldi had the curiosity to visit the country that occupies so much of his mental energy, he could see this too.) China and India are probably the only other countries in the world besides Israel with even remotely comparable national and cultural continuity. Countries like the U.S., Germany, and Brazil (to pick a few large ones at random) do not even come close.

    From the period of the 2nd Jewish Commonwealth, there has not been a single sovereign state in the Land of Israel until the modern State of Israel was established in 1948. No other people invested in the area, as a people or as a nation, or settled it in critical mass until the Jewish people returned to it in large numbers in the modern era, following emancipation largely in Europe. The Ottomans and Arab states, such as Jordan, could not be bothered. This is all part of the public record.

    Art – You say, “Think Peace”. Why don’t you put some skin in the game and make a trip to Israel? While you are in the region, you can also try to preach your message in Arab-dominated locales such as Gaza or Mecca, and let us know how that goes for you compared to your time in Israel.

  149. @Moi

    Your bigotry and ignorance runneth over.

    And with a comment like that, you expose yourself as at least as bigoted and ignorant.

    FYI, no one comes here to read comments like that. No one cares about your opinion about another commenter, so please try to add something useful to the discussion, if possible. If not, kindly take a hike and quit wasting everyone’s time.

    Trolls are not welcome here.

    • Replies: @Moi
  150. @jacques sheete

    I have read renfro’s writings for many years on several sites. He is very credible and to be respected.

    • Replies: @renfro
  151. @iffen

    iffen says:
    December 27, 2017 at 9:19 pm GMT

    they make me quake in my boots.

    Keep’em shined, ’tis the season of miracles.

    I can understand keeping the boots at the ready, but why are you promoting Hillary Clinton’s theme song?

    IDIOT

    Thanks, Ron, for the new IDIOT button.
    Congrats, iffen; you be the first. wear it proud.

  152. neutral says:
    @iffen

    One things for sure, you will never hear the ADL saying anything about him.

  153. @LA Dude

    China and India are probably the only other countries in the world besides Israel with even remotely comparable national and cultural continuity.

    Zionists have a weird mental block about Iran: Persians created Yehud; Yehud learned to put things in writing from Persians; according to Yossi Alpher, “All Israelis crave recognition of the Jewish state because that validates their claim to be kin to the Persian empire.”

    But LaDude does not even recognize Iran as an ancient culture.

    • Replies: @iffen
  154. iffen says:
    @LA Dude

    China and India are probably the only other countries in the world besides Israel with even remotely comparable national and cultural continuity.

    Well, no. I can give you cultural continuity, but national as it relates to an ethnicity and territory, not so much. See below:

    there has not been a single sovereign state in the Land of Israel

  155. Rurik says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    You wrong about RobinG.

    RobinG might get feisty, or despairing, at times, but you can count on RobinG to have Phil’s back, and that’s what counts.

    I suppose so

    I did feel conflicted about it

    I just don’t understand her targeted trolling I suppose, and as I mentioned, she has contributed much

    Rurik ~ the chastened

  156. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    S2C, we both zeroed in on this:

    China and India are probably the only other countries in the world besides Israel with even remotely comparable national and cultural continuity.

    I’ll be honest with you if you’ll be frank. I’m a bit unsettled by the confluence.

    Thanks for the idiot tribute, it’s encouraging.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  157. wayfarer says:
    @KenH

    Do the, “we now own your world, thanks to your generous bank deposit” globalists have a hidden hand in America’s rollout the red-carpet refugee resettlement program?

    Check out the cash flow on this “refugee non-profits” tax return, along with its board of directors, which includes prima-donna globalist, Timothy “Greasy Pickpocket” Geithner.

    Rescue.Org ( https://www.rescue.org )
    Board of Directors ( https://www.rescue.org/board-and-overseers )
    501 (c) Nonprofit Tax Return ( https://goo.gl/ooP241 )
    Panhandler’s Page ( https://help.rescue.org/donate )
    San Diego Ops ( https://www.rescue.org/united-states/san-diego-ca )

  158. wayfarer says:
    @jacques sheete

    In my opinion any post Battle-of-Waterloo war analysis, should possibly include the following financial records, (1) balance sheets; (2) income statements; (3) cash flow statements; and (4) statements of shareholders’ equity.

    Mothball City, USA.

  159. @Rurik

    Zionist-trained cops do essentially the same thing when they gang-up on helpless victims and beat the living hell out of them while shouting, “stop resisting arrest”.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  160. @iffen

    Hey iffen,

    I’m reading The Historian, by Elizabeth Kostova. It’s a novel set in the Carpathians-Bulgaria-Istanbul; includes a lot of discussion of the mythologies and folk tales of the people of that region, including tales — or is it history?? — about Dracula, who might or might not be the undead emanation of Vlad the Impaler.

    The myths that bind peoples and cultures are fascinating; it’s tragic that so many people think The Bible is the onliest set of stories that shape the inner life of people.

    There was a connection to your comment when I started typing, but I’ve forgotten — something along the lines of You, iffen, of all people, and S2C, of all avatars, paddling in a confluent stream of consciousness.

    Maybe it’s true, what they taught us in Catholic school, about the Mystical Body of Christ encompassing all people everywhere.

    The tragedy — the 2700 year old tragedy of LADude & his/her dudettes is that they’re not happy being the same as everyone else, paddling in the same confluence. They crave their own seat on the Short Bus. Sad, really. It shrieks, “I feel inferior!! I don’t know who I am, but whoever I am , I am better than you!”

    • Replies: @iffen
  161. Z-man says:
    @LA Dude

    There are so many holes in this argument that even I can rebuff it. I’m too lazy to go to each one but I’ll just destroy one or two of this guy’s points here.
    Same Hebrew language etc.
    LOL! The language that the Zionist had to relearn over 100 years of recolonization and then occupation.

    Ancient coins and artifacts also lol;
    There are probably more Roman and Arabic artifacts than Hebrew ones but of course the Zionists have been digging up the area for decades to try and justify their land grab (theft).

    No other people invested in the area, as a people or as a nation, or settled it in critical mass until the Jewish people returned to it in large numbers in the modern era, following emancipation largely in Europe.

    Invested how in money? Well sure with the $$$ of the internationalist Jew (bankers/shylocks and political lobbies). The Palestinians had many continuous centuries habitating in the Holy Land and have invested in blood since the occupation and they’re not leaving.

  162. @Alden

    Judging from past history, I’d speculate that the 1690 Quebec Raid was nothing more than New England Yankees acting like New England Yankees. When have they ever been satisfied to mind their own damned business and allow other people to mind theirs?

  163. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Michael Makovsky is President and CEO of the Jewish Institute for National Security of America (JINSA), and a former Pentagon official.

    The JINSA crowd as identified by Powell

  164. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @LA Dude

    It is artificial when it cant sustain on its own It has to ask for help to get a birth – I mean to be born

    Israel a pathetic historical concept which had to seek help of Persia to be around for few years centuries ago.

  165. Art says:
    @LA Dude

    China and India are probably the only other countries in the world besides Israel with even remotely comparable national and cultural continuity.

    “Cultural continuity” – you have to be kidding – for two thousand years there was NO Jew national cultural continuity.

    You Jews have the least claim to land in the ME. All the others stayed and mixed and survived for 2,000 years.

    Because you were so dishonest and unruly the Romans did a Carthage on you. You Jews cannot just walk in, slap people around, and steal their lands and homes of 2,000 years.

    We live in modern times with modern rules – Israel is breaking them all.

    Israel is a giant mistake – especially for Jews.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @L.K
    , @LA Dude1
  166. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    “I feel inferior!! I don’t know who I am, but whoever I am , I am better than you!”

    He didn’t say anything like this at all. He just got part of his mythology wrong. Some stuff that is factually incorrect.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  167. Rurik says:
    @Carroll Price

    Zionist-trained cops do essentially the same thing

    don’t know if this guy was Israeli trained or not

    >>warning<<

    the cop was just acquitted of all charges..

    • Replies: @norse nestor
  168. @RobinG

    Do I remember that you had any evidence about the St. Louis, the shipload of Jews who had fled Europe that was not allowed to land in US…. evidence of Zionists in the US (or elsewhere) who lobbied against giving them entry here…

    The general stary as you have it is true and the ship was the St. Louis. The story is easily researched online, though it takes some work to find confirmation that powerful Zionists opposed its landing in the US. I wonder why that would be?

    It’s important to understand that in many ways, Zionists are some of the worst “anti-Semites,” actually anti- Jews ever to exist. They had little regard for Jews who weren’t on board for their gangster state project and evidently suffered no more hesitation to sacrifice Jews than FDR did to sacrifice US military personnel for the greater glory of the international bankers.ANother ship example is that of the Patria which Zio- terrorists blew up in the sea near Palestine. Of course they excuse it as an accident, (surprise, surprise!).

    Zionists actually worked with Nazis to get Jews to leave Eastern Europe, and the yellow star idea was, in fact, the brainchild of a Zionist and Nazi banker, George Kareski.

    There is tons more to these stories and Ron Unz, (Bless him!) has another site where you can research a lot of this stuff online through access to articles written at the time and beyond. http://www.unz.org/Pub/

    Beware, that site is positively addicting.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  169. Art says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Corbett Report offers a word of Hope; that word is Anastrophe

    I have the Corbett Report as a favorite – he comes up with knowledgeable things.

    In report was talking about a return to “local community” as the follow up to national government.

    I agree 100%. After Rome fell, the Christian European people were organized in small communities – it was a peaceful time in Euro history.

    People in communities where ownership is local, care more for each other.

    In short – Main Street USA serves people better than national Wall Street.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  170. @iffen

    uh-oh; confluence diverted on a boulder.

    Didn’t say LADude said “I am inferior,” I wrote, “It shrieks . . .” as in, the signal being sent.

    As you wrote, “he got the history wrong.”
    The history is obvious.
    Whydid LADude get it so wrong?

  171. @RobinG

    Robin, here’s a bit more of the story. Zionists in the US did not need to lobby against the immigrants to keep them out because there were laws that took care of that.

    What the would-be immigrants needed was people to lobby to circumvent the laws to get them in. This could have likely been done very easily if there was anyone who really cared about them, but the opposite was apparently the case. They were kept out heartlessly by mere technicalities.

    Theodore Herzl, the father of Zionism explained how it works in his “The Jewish State:”

    The “assimilated”[Jew] would profit even more than Christian citizens by the departure of faithful Jews; for they would be rid of the disquieting, incalculable, and unavoidable rivalry of a Jewish proletariat, driven by poverty and political pressure from place to place, from land to land. This floating proletariat would become stationary…

    The “assimilated” give expression to this secret grievance in “philanthropic” undertakings. They organize emigration societies for wandering Jews. There is a reverse to the picture which would be comic, if it did not deal with human beings.

    For some of these charitable institutions are created not for, but against, persecuted Jews; they are created to dispatch these poor creatures just as fast and far as possible. And thus, many an apparent friend of the Jews turns out, on careful inspection, to be nothing more than an Anti-Semite of Jewish origin, disguised as a philanthropist.

    - Theodor Herzl, Der Judenstaat, 1896. Translated from the German by Sylvie D’Avigdor

    http://mideastweb.org/jewishstate.pdf

    The concept is that rich and powerful Jews don’t care for the rest of the Jews any more than the rich and powerful goyim care for the rest of us, and would be happy to have us disappear. There are even passages in the Torah explaining the contempt that the rich have for their inferiors. We unterclasses are nothing more than tools at best, and a pain in the tush at worst. The non-rich Izzy firsters of today are nothing more than useful idiots to the real beneficiaries of the Zionist project.

    Despite their smug insistence of intellectual superiority over the rest of us, they’ll be discarded like used tissue papers when their usefulness has ended just as the Bolshie bunnies were abandoned after they no longer served any purpose for the mega-rich.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  172. @Art

    In the novel mentioned to iffen @164, “The Historian,” by Elizabeth Kostova, monasteries play a crucial role in Middle Ages central and Eastern Europe, as well as Western Europe and England. Machiavelli wrote of his travels to the German principalities where he admired the monastery towns for their orderliness and fortification. Monasteries were the centerpiece of villages and towns. Even when I was a kid, the parish church was the center of neighborhood life. Ethnic neighborhoods kept people grounded in a sense of community, though my neighborhood was diverse before it was cool — a Polish parish with Irish, Italians, Hungarians all mixing it up, holding Polish Catholic processions to celebrate the opening of a new bridge or to celebrate a feast day.

    Hitler went to high school at a Benedictine monastery; some say the swastika was inspired by carvings on that Benedictine high school. As well, the motto, or ideal, of Benedictines is “Ora et labore,” Pray and Work (reminiscent of “Arbeit macht frei” at entrance to concentration camps). National Socialists based their economic program on the value of labor, not credit/capital, and even today, Germany is more labor-friendly than is neo-liberal/capitalism.

    “Benedictinism” and monasticism, as well as the region’s varied myths and folk tales, had a long, deep and abiding influence on the peoples who lived there. Jews hated these institutions and practices with a vengeance — literally. That’s why it’s so significant that the ancient Benedictine at Monte Cassino was bombed to dust on the bogus belief that German soldiers were sheltering there. In fact, the German warrior ideology is the opposite: they were protecting/defending the monks and monastery, consistent with their ancient cultural mores.

    • Replies: @wayfarer
    , @Art
  173. @jacques sheete

    It’s important to understand that in many ways, Zionists are some of the worst “anti-Semites,” actually anti- Jews ever to exist. They had little regard for Jews who weren’t on board for their gangster state project and evidently suffered no more hesitation to sacrifice Jews than FDR did to sacrifice US military personnel for the greater glory of the international bankers.. . .
    Zionists actually worked with Nazis to get Jews to leave Eastern Europe,

    Absolutely.

    The most important statement in all of WWII history = Louis Brandeis to Rabbi Stephen Wise, ~Feb 14, 1933: “All Jews must leave Germany . . . all 587,000 German Jews must leave.”

    Douglas Reed focuses on the second part of Brandeis’s declaration:

    Today’s Zionist historians show a remarkable hatred of Spain on this account, and a firm belief in a Jehovan vengeance not yet completed. The overthrow of the Spanish monarchy nearly five centuries later, and the civil war of the 1930′s, are sometimes depicted as instalments on account of this reckoning. This belief was reflected in the imperious words used by Mr. Justice Brandeis of the United States Supreme Court, a leading Zionist, to Rabbi Stephen Wise in 1933: “Let Germany share the fate of Spain!” The treatment accorded to Spain in the subsequent decades of this century, in particular its long exclusion from the United Nations, has to be considered in this light.

    The Feb. 1933 date is important: National Socialists had not yet gotten their act fully organized but were concentrating on calming the violence that welled up from the people — violence was not incited from above. But Jews were organized: “international Jewry” convened in Belgium, and by the third week of March 1933 had decided upon and began to agitate against anything Germany did; Jews declared economic war on Germany beginning on March 24, 1933.

    Meanwhile, Jews in Poland and Roumania were being persecuted far more bitterly than anything Jews experienced in Germany, and Stalin was killing people by the millions, but Brandeis was not concerned for Jews in those states of travail. Stephen Wise notes in his Letters that “L.D.B. was more bitter about the loss of 600,000 business opportunities than a dozen pogroms.”

    In the same time period, Vladimir Jabotinsky traveled to numerous cities, including in the USA (which he loathed), preaching that it was essential that “the diaspora be liquidated” — his words: ALL Jews must migrate to zionist Palestine, the diaspora must cease to exist.

    It’s extremely important to understand that the “expulsion” of Jews from Europe was primarily a Zionist agenda and goal, with which, to be sure, National Socialists participated willingly. It’s also important to realize that England, France and other European states were just as resistant to accepting Jews as Germany — and Poland– were eager to get shed of them.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  174. @RobinG

    Rabbi Stephen Wise is a mixed bag in Jewish-zionist historiography.

    Check this out:

    http://www.hirhome.com/israel/leaders1.htm

    “I would rather have my fellow Jews die in Germany…”

    Said on the eve of the Nazi genocide by “Reform Rabbi Stephen Wise, the undisputed leader of organized American Jewry”, and “probably the most influential and well-respected American Jew of his generation”, in reply to British prime minister Neville Chamberlain’s suggestion that Jewish refugees from Hitler might settle in Tanganyika.

    Stephen Wise got his wish. **

    - – -Organized American Jews, led by Rabbi Wise, had not only let down the St. Louis passengers, but they also failed to press for passage of the Wagner bill, which had called for the admission of 20,000 ‘German’ refugee children. The term ‘German’ was used instead of ‘Jewish’ in the draft of the bill because of the prevailing aversion to bringing Jews to America . . .

    ** actually, relatively few German Jews died in Germany; most young Jews left, of the older Jews who remained, very many committed suicide.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  175. L.K says:
    @Art

    I couldn’t agree more, Art.

    Just one thing though;
    Art:

    “Because you were so dishonest and unruly the Romans did a Carthage on you.”

    If you meant that the Romans expelled the ancient Hebrews at the end of the war of 66–73 CE, that is yet another Jewish myth, it never happened. The Romans never expelled the Jews.
    Israeli Historians know this and some have written about it, such as Shlomo Sand, in “The Invention of the Jewish People” and Ilan Pappe, in Ten Myths About Israel.

    In the preface of ‘Ten Myths About Israel’ one reads:

    … Were the Jews indeed the original inhabitants of Palestine who deserved to be supported in every way possible in their “return” to their “homeland”? The myth insists that the Jews who arrived in 1882 were the descendants of the Jews expelled by the Romans around 70 CE. …Quite a hefty scholarly effort has shown that the Jews of Roman Palestine remained on the land and were first converted to Christianity and then to Islam.

  176. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    In fact the people of Okinawa would love nothing more then to see all the US armed forces leave.

    In any case your “pimp” analogy is wrong. Pimps MAKE MONEY off of their whores. The USA gains nothing and expends a great deal of money maintaining its Asiatic empire.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  177. wayfarer says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    That’s why it’s so significant that the ancient Benedictine at Monte Cassino was bombed to dust on the bogus belief that German soldiers were sheltering there. In fact, the German warrior ideology is the opposite: they were protecting/defending the monks and monastery, consistent with their ancient cultural mores.

    Had a family member who fought with the U.S. 10th Mountain Division, in Italy during WW II. He said the American “shock troops” were green, when they first encountered salty German Alpine troops, many of whom had some five years of combat experience. According to him, the German mountain light infantry kicked the American mountain light infantry’s ass. He had nothing but respect for rank-and-file German soldiers.

    Ended up inheriting a Luger pistol that was initially broken down with all its parts scattered in a field by a surrendering German officer, a standard issue K-98 bayonet, and a small sack of ancient Roman coins. Loot that he brought back to the states in his duffel/sea bag, back in 1945.

    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10th_Mountain_Division

  178. Z-man says:
    @jacques sheete

    Good points but, Jews stick together more than any other race, that’s why they’ve survived, even after Christ, and today are almost omnipotent.

  179. @SolontoCroesus

    Thank you for yet more brilliant input.

    Thanks too, for ” fleshing out” my comment. I would love to answer each point individually, but that would be too long. Suffice it to say that you are sooo correct on every point you make.

    Beautiful, and thank you!

  180. @Z-man

    You are correct and it’s a sad thing that despite the perfidy and sociopathy of the ruling moneybags, that the “extremely intelligent” Jew prols, peasants and pissants are no brighter vis a vis their bosses than their dumb and ignorant goy counterparts are regarding theirs.

    And all of it is spelled out plainly in their own book, the Tanach!!!!

    Can’t they read? Or is it a problem with comprehension? Denial? Or what???

    Aren’t we humans something special???

  181. Tammy says:
    @LA Dude

    That is straight-up dumb. What is your definition of artificial? The same Hebrew language spoken today by Israeli scientists, engineers, journalists, et al can be found engraved in 2,000 year old extant structures and ancient coins strewn across the land, which are easy for any hiker today in Israel to come across, particularly in the Judea and Samaria region.

    LOL …. During the times of Jesus, none of His disciples spoke Hebrew and for this reason, Jesus spoke to them in Aramaic. Jesus being divine could speak any language. However, Hebrew language at the time of Prince of Peace was dead as a doorknob.

    Hebrew was revived from Arabic in the late 19th century.

    As far as your TaNaKh (Old Testament) is concerned, it was completely written without vowels like Arabic. The written vowels were introduced in Arabic when Quran was revealed. This Quranic Arabic is called Classical Arabic. From this Quranic Arabic the vowels were written into TaNaKh during the 12th to 15th centuries.

    Jews still stupidly write God without the vowel as G-d. Scared shit. So, they let out the vowels in TaNaKh in YHWH Elohim. I will do the honor now and put vowels in YHWH Elohim. Therefore, it becomes YaHuwa Elohim meaning, O’ He Elohim.

    O’ He Elohim, O’ He Elohim, umpteen times written in TaNaKh.

  182. @SolontoCroesus

    Meanwhile, Jews in Poland and Roumania were being persecuted far more bitterly than anything Jews experienced in Germany, and Stalin was killing people by the millions, but Brandeis was not concerned for Jews in those states of travail.

    Meanwhile, even worse than mere lack of concern about the little Jews taking it on the chin, this too,was going on in Rumania (aka Romania), the little state who stood up to the Bolshie thug, and Lenin’s protege, the criminal, Bela Kuhn,(Kohn, likely a cognate of Cohen):

    “Possibly,” wrote the well-informed Temps 1.,” Rumania would have been better treated [by the Supreme Council at Versailles] if she had closed with certain proposals of loans on crushing terms or complied with certain demands for oil concessions .”

    -Dr. E.J. Dillon, The Inside Story of the Peace Conference, p 226 (1920)

    1.I Le Temps, July 8, 1919 .

    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/The_Inside_Story_Of_The_Peace_Conference-Dr-EJ_Dillon-1920-526pgs-POL.pdf

    But it was further affirmed, and not by idle quidnuncs, that one of Rumania’s prominent men had been informed that Rumania could count on the good-will and financial assistance of the United States only if her Premier gave an assurance that, besides the special privileges to be conferred on the Jewish minority in his country, he would also grant industrial and commercial concessions to certain Jewish groups and firms who reside and do business in the United States . And by way of taking time by the forelock one or more of these firms had already despatched representatives to Rumania to study and, if possible, earmark the resources which they proposed to exploit.
    Ibid. p.237

    Not much new under the sun. Screw Wilson, Lloyd George, and Clemenceau. Stinkin puppets and sell-outs.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  183. @Z-man

    Good points but, Jews stick together more than any other race, that’s why they’ve survived, even after Christ, and today are almost omnipotent.

    The rabbi, Christ, in fact is a good example of what the rich ones will do even to their own if they appear to step out of line even just a little…

  184. Moi says:
    @jacques sheete

    Likewise Islamophobes not welcome. Bye!

  185. LA Dude1 says:

    Quite a hefty scholarly effort has shown that the Jews of Roman Palestine remained on the land and were first converted to Christianity and then to Islam

    Do you realize that any converts out of Judaism who also assimilated into their host culture were no longer Jews? For the sake of your argument, you can consider them gentiles. In other words, if the Jews became gentiles, this no longer supports your argument. It thus follows that Jews who maintained their Jewish identity and left the Land of Israel — in order to survive as Jews and maintain their identity — are the ancestors of today’s Jews. Is this complicated to understand for you? No serious historian of the ancient Middle East disputes that Jews who stuck to their identity and Jewish way of life were expelled from the Land of Israel.

  186. LA Dude1 says:
    @Art

    for two thousand years there was NO Jew national cultural continuity.

    If there is no Jewish national cultural continuity, than I guess there are no Jews around today! How dense can you possibly be? If Jewish identity today is not based on national cultural continuity (plus a shared ethnicity), on what basis can a Jew today be considered Jewish? Or do you believe that Jews are literally a distinct race — and nothing more — and have no claim to a national cultural identity?

    Since the forced dispersion following the 2nd Jewish Commonwealth, was a Jew in Russia, Persia or Morocco a Jew, or was she/he a Russian, Persian or Moroccan? (This is prior to recent post-Enlightenment notions of citizenship and nationality.) Obviously, she/he was a Jew, which is itself proof of national cultural continuity.

    Incidentally, do you know how Jews succeeded in global trade in Ancient times, much as Armenians and Chinese do today (using Armenian and Mandarin)? The answer is that they could conduct commerce across national boundaries — facilitating global commerce — in a lingua franca, in their case Hebrew.

  187. geokat62 says:

    This can’t bode well for the future. Just as they named a bird sanctuary after former PM Stephen Harper, the Israelis have just announced they will be naming a train station after POTUS Donald Trump:

    New Israeli train line with station named after Trump was built on stolen Palestinian land

    Trump, no stranger to having his name embossed on the facade of feats of construction, received the honor following his December announcement recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

    “The Western Wall is the holiest place for the Jewish people, and I decided to name the train station that leads to it after president Trump – following his historic and brave decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of the State of Israel,” said transportation minister Israel Katz.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/12/israeli-palestinian-feature/

  188. geokat62 says:
    @geokat62

    There is a ray of hope…

    Speaking of a ray of hope, get a load of this:

    Congressional Candidate Paul Nehlen Reads Neo-Nazis’ ‘Favorite Academic’

    Paul Nehlen, the Republican politician seeking to unseat Speaker of the House Paul Ryan from Congress in 2018, has been increasingly flirting with the online “alt-right” by posting memes and appearing on white nationalist podcasts. On Tuesday night, he proudly shared one of the books currently on his shelf: a title by an author known as the “neo-Nazi movement’s favorite academic.”

    “The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements” is the best known book by Kevin MacDonald, a retired professor of psychology widely praised in white nationalist circles for his writing about Jews and perceived Jewish power.

    MacDonald, the editor of the “white identity” website The Occidental Observer, advances boilerplate white nationalist claims about Jews, seeing them as controlling and manipulating American institutions for their own ends. His work draws on his psychology background, and he casts Jewish behavior as a type of self-preservation “group evolutionary strategy.”

    MacDonald is part of the academic-styled sphere of the broader white nationalist movement and has collaborated with “alt-right” figureheads like Richard Spencer.

    https://forward.com/fast-forward/390936/congressional-candidate-paul-nehlen-reads-neo-nazis-favorite-academic/?attribution=home-top-story-13-headline

    .

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @RobinG
  189. @LA Dude1

    If there is no Jewish national cultural continuity, than I guess there are no Jews around today! How dense can you possibly be?

    Please note the word, “national.” Art used that word for a reason, and he’s correct. The idea of a national identity for the group was what made the Zionist project a new idea.

    Also, I find it interesting that there seems to be no settled definition of what a Jew is. Even “Jews” can’t seem to agree on who or what a Jew is. The most definite answer I ever got was from a rabbi who said that a Jew is someone who’s mother was a Jew, but that doesn’t account, in my limited way of thinking, for the fact that one can become a Jew by conversion.

    If there is no set definition of a Jew, then it seems to me a difficult task for anyone to have a “Jewish” national identity. That goes double for “Jews” who identify with the nations they were born or chose to live in.

    Likewise, I have yet to have anyone give me a reasonable explanation of the smear, “anti-Semite.” What is an anti-Semite? I know it’s supposed to refer to anyone who disagrees with a Jew, but that makes no sense to me since most Jews are not Semites and it makes more sense to naive lil me to call people who are bigoted towards Jews , “anti-Jews.”

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
    , @Rurik
  190. geokat62 says:

    Occupation? What occupation? You must be just imagining things.

    U.S. Ambassador To Israel Asked State Dept. To Stop Using The Word ‘Occupation’

    The United States’ ambassador to Israel, David Friedman, tried earlier this year to get the State Department to stop using the word “occupation” when referring to Israel’s presence in the West Bank.

    As first reported by the Israeli Broadcasting Authority on Tuesday, Friedman asked career diplomats at the State Department to seek alternatives for the terms “occupation” and “Israeli-occupied territories.” He suggested using the term “West Bank,” which Friedman described as more neutral.

    Friedman’s request was initially turned down by officials at the State Department, but upon his insistence, the department agreed to discuss the issue.

    A State Department official said in response that there is no change in U.S. policy regarding the West Bank, and a spokesperson for the U.S. embassy in Israel called the report “misleading” and “twisted.”

    Since being appointed by President Trump to serve as U.S. ambassador to Israel, Friedman has made clear that his views don’t always fall in line with long-standing State Department policies. He argued in an interview that Israel only occupies only two percent of the West Bank, and has refused to embrace a two-state solution as the preferred outcome for negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians.

    https://forward.com/fast-forward/390857/us-ambassador-to-israel-asked-state-dept-to-stop-using-the-word-occupation/?attribution=home-article-listing-11-headline

  191. @jacques sheete

    good information, thanks for “fleshing out” what was going on in Roumania.

  192. @LA Dude1

    If there is no Jewish national cultural continuity, than I guess there are no Jews around today! How dense can you possibly be?

    If there is no Italian national cultural continuity, than I guess there are no Italians around today! How dense can you possibly be?

    If there is no Irish national cultural continuity, than I guess there are no Irishmen around today! How dense can you possibly be?

    If there is no German national cultural continuity, than I guess there are no Germans around today! How dense can you possibly be?

    If there is no Iranian national cultural continuity, than I guess there are no Iranians around today! How dense can you possibly be?

    If there is no Greek national cultural continuity, than I guess there are no Greeks around today! How dense can you possibly be?

    If there is no Syrian national cultural continuity, than I guess there are no Syrians around today! How dense can you possibly be?

    One can readily define the cultures of those peoples and places.

    The same can NOT be said of Jews: for over 700 years the largest population of Jews lived in Poland; they spoke German or Yiddish, not Hebrew or Polish.

    Jews lived in Germany for ~700 years where they spoke German or Yiddish, not Hebrew.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  193. Rurik says:
    @geokat62

    you may have to temporarily set this as your background to read it, but it’s some alt-righter’s meme-interpretation of a Twitter conversation between Nehlen and Podhoretz

    • Replies: @geokat62
  194. @Rurik

    On the list of most admired women, Hilary Clinton sat at number one for the 16th straight year,

    She was followed by Michelle Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Elizabeth Warren, Angela Merkel, Queen Elizabeth II, Condoleezza Rice, and Melania Trump.

    The Onion couldn’t do better than that!

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Rurik
  195. Art says:
    @LA Dude1

    If there is no Jewish national cultural continuity

    It is pretty simple. Nations are characterized by land. A nation has land. The Jews for two thousand years had no “LAND” therefore they were a nomadic tribe – not a nation.

    What is a Jew? A Jew is a tribal member. He may follow his religion – he may not. Jews do have a culture that they pass from generation to generation. Their culture has an old world tribal mindset. The Jew mindset is antithetical to the rest of humanity. Jews view themselves as separate from everyone else. Their culture locks them at an early age, into a belligerence against humanity.

    Traditionally tribes do not respect property rights. They take things by force (or by trick). Clearly the Jews in Israel have not accepted the modern concept of land as inviolate personal property. They steal Palestinian property in an old world tribal manner. They still practice inferior tribal behavior.

    You would think that after being a part of Christian Western culture for 2,000 years that they would have changed their ways – but sadly – NO!

    Think Peace — Art

  196. @jacques sheete

    Also, I find it interesting that there seems to be no settled definition of what a Jew is. Even “Jews” can’t seem to agree on who or what a Jew is. The most definite answer I ever got was from a rabbi who said that a Jew is someone who’s mother was a Jew, but that doesn’t account, in my limited way of thinking, for the fact that one can become a Jew by conversion.

    If “Jew” is not an inherited gene (or trait) then why do DNA test results (showing percentages of total inherited genes) nearly always include Jew DNA as part of the total?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  197. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    there is no set definition of a Jew

    that is by design

    ((they)) like to leave such things amorphous, like the borders of Israel. That way they can just sort of decide things as/if they become ‘good for the Jews’.

    you can be absolutely certain beyond any doubt whatsoever, that Ivanka’s children, born of a shisha, (but magically transformed for all time into an uber-Jew), will be heralded and embraced by the tribe as Jews

    not a fate enjoyed by all ‘Jews’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2946546/Sammy-Davis-Jr-brought-love-child-adopted-son-tried-steal-girlfriends-told-truth-death-bed-left-son-penniless-works-Costco.html

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  198. Art says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    In the novel mentioned to iffen @164, “The Historian,” by Elizabeth Kostova, monasteries play a crucial role in Middle Ages central and Eastern Europe, as well as Western Europe and England. Machiavelli wrote of his travels to the German principalities where he admired the monastery towns for their orderliness and fortification. Monasteries were the centerpiece of villages and towns.

    S2C,

    Thanks for that – I will look into the book.

    Those times in Europe were called the Dark Ages – they were not dark – they were peaceful.

    Also it is out of these monasteries and collages that Western science was propagated. They started the challenge to Vatican orthodoxy. Giordano Bruno (a monk) was murdered because of a scientific heresy.

    Think Peace — Art

  199. Art says:
    @jacques sheete

    On the list of most admired women, Hilary Clinton sat at number one for the 16th straight year,

    Sorry – but this is mind boggling – what a sad commentary on women. What do they admire?

    Women are confusing quality of personhood – with power.

    True, Hillary is the most powerful woman – but clearly not the best woman.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Our culture is upside down – good is bad. (1984)

    • Agree: Z-man
  200. @LA Dude1

    Incidentally, do you know how Jews succeeded in global trade in Ancient times, much as Armenians and Chinese do today (using Armenian and Mandarin)?

    Yes, I know: Yehud participated in so-called Silk Road commerce developed by Chinese and Persians. I’ve been on the ‘Silk Road,’ LADude; have you?
    Yehud (Jews) got their biggest boost in commerce and also banking from the ancient Persians who liberated them from Babylon, taught them how to write and transact business, employed them as mercenaries in lands Persians conquered (Benzion Netanyahu covers this in the first pages of his “Origins of the Inquisition”).
    The first major Jewish leaders were not rabbis or holy men or scholars but merchants and financiers in Persia/Babylon, who would answer the questions and resolve conflicts among Jews, that were brought to them. These adjudicators were approached because they were the wealthy/prominent persons in the most significant location of Jews — Persia. They collected a fee for their services.

    The answer is that they could conduct commerce across national boundaries — facilitating global commerce — in a lingua franca, in their case Hebrew.

    Doubtful. As wikipedia, below, says, Hebrew was primarily a sacred language. Some Jews may have communicated from Jew to Jew in Hebrew, but it’s not likely that Jews in Andalusia spoke Hebrew with Moors with whom they partnered. Nor is it likely that Jews who shared with Genoese the bounty of Crusader trade spoke Hebrew; they would have communicated in the Genoese dialect and also in whatever language Ottoman Turks used; many of the Jews who were expelled from Spain migrated to Ottoman Turkey. Others migrated to the Netherlands, where it is most likely they learned the languages of trade used by the Dutch. Baruch “Spinoza’s mother tongue was Portuguese, although he also knew Hebrew, Spanish, Dutch, perhaps French, and later Latin.[29] Although he wrote in Latin, Spinoza learned the language only late in his youth.” It’s likely that the Hebrew he learned was acquired in early years of Yeshiva schooling, which he “cut short at age 17.

    —-

    Revival of the Hebrew language
    From Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revival_of_the_Hebrew_language
    [accessed Dec 28 2017]
    The revival of the Hebrew language took place in Europe and Israel toward the end of the 19th century and into the 20th century, through which the language’s usage changed from the sacred language of Judaism to a spoken and written language used for daily life in Israel. The process began as Jews started arriving in Palestine in the first half of the nineteenth century and used Hebrew as a lingua franca.[1]

    However, a parallel development in Europe changed Hebrew from primarily a sacred liturgical language into a literary language[2] which played a key role in the development of nationalist educational programs.[3] Modern Hebrew, along with Modern Arabic, has been an official language in Israel since the British Mandate of Palestine, a situation that continued after the Israeli Declaration of Independence in 1948. More than purely a linguistic process, the revival of Hebrew was utilized by Jewish modernization and political movements, and became a tenet of the ideology associated with settlement of the land, Zionism[4] and Israeli policy.

    The process of Hebrew’s return to regular usage is unique; there are no other examples of a natural language without any native speakers subsequently acquiring several million such native speakers, and no other examples of a sacred language becoming a national language with millions of “first language” speakers.

    The Hebrew that is spoken by Jews in Israel (and elsewhere) today emerged as a “first/national language” only in ~1924, when Bialek migrated to Palestine.


    As for “Jewish national cultural continuity,” which culture?
    That’s the first question David Biale addresses in his “Cultures of the Jews.”

    • Replies: @Tammy
  201. @Carroll Price

    If “Jew” is not an inherited gene (or trait) then why do DNA test results (showing percentages of total inherited genes) nearly always include Jew DNA as part of the total?

    How convenient, eh? Being a “Jew” is an inherited “trait?” That seems to be a new concept; how does that work?

    BTW, what do you know about DNA testing?

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  202. denk says:
    @Rurik

    This at least restore some semblance of sanity…….

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  203. @Rurik

    that is by design

    Bingo! It’s another label that can be changed to suit the perceived needs of whomever feels the need for such, such as someone who’d want to play the victim card, for instance.

    Pretty convenient, I’d say.

  204. Thank you Mr. Giraldi.
    As you are likely aware, completed in 1956, Douglas Reed’s unbiased review and analysis illuminates many of the ‘issues’, ‘difficulties‘, and tactics of ‘Western‘ governments, including, and in patrticular, the US government.

    http://www.controversyofzion.info/Controversybook/reeedcontrov.pdf

    D. REED :: The Controversy of Zion — p.191 — p.192::
    “As to the purposes revealed when the revolution struck in 1917, these showed that it was not episodic or spontaneous but the third “eruption” of the organization first revealed through Weishaupt. The two main features reappeared: the attack on all legitimate government of any kind whatsoever and on religion. Since 1917 the world-revolution has had to cast aside the earlier pretence of being directed only against “kings” or the political power of priests.
    One authority of that period knew and stated this. In the tradition of Edmund Burke and John
    Robison, George Washington and Alexander Hamilton and Disraeli, Mr. Winston Churchill wrote:
    “It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of anti-Christ were designed to originate among the same people; and that this mystic and mysterious race had been chosen for the supreme manifestations, both of the divine and the diabolical. . .
    From the days of ‘Spartacus’ Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany) and Emma Goldman (United States), this worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Nesta Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the nineteenth century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire. There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others”.
    This is the last candid statement (discoverable by me) from a leading public man on this question.
    After it the ban on public discussion came down and the great silence ensued, which continues to this day. In 1953 Mr. Churchill refused permission (requisite under English law) for a photostat to be made of this article (Illustrated Sunday Herald, February 8, 1920), without saying why.
    The fact of Jewish leadership was a supremely important piece of knowledge and the later suppression of it, where public debate would have been sanative, produced immense effects in weakening the West. The formulation of any rational State policy becomes impossible when such major elements of knowledge are excluded from public discussion; it is like playing billiards with twisted cues and elliptical balls. The strength of the conspiracy is shown by its success in this matter (as in the earlier period, of Messrs. Robison, Barruel and Morse) more than by any other thing.
    At the time, the facts were available. The British Government’s White Paper of 1919 (Russia, No. 1, a Collection of Reports on Bolshevism) quoted the report sent to Mr. Balfour in London in 1918 by the Netherlands Minister at Saint Petersburg, M. Oudendyke: “Bolshevism is organized and worked by Jews, who have no nationality and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things“. The United States Ambassador, Mr. David R. Francis, reported similarly: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are trying. to start a worldwide social revolution“.
    M. Oudendyke’s report was deleted from later editions of the British official publication and all such authentic documents of that period are now difficult to obtain. Fortunately for the student, one witness preserved the official record. This was Mr. Robert Wilton, correspondent of the London Times, who experienced the Bolshevik revolution. The French edition of his book included the official Bolshevik lists of the membership of the ruling revolutionary bodies (they were omitted from the English edition).”

    • Replies: @Z-man
  205. Alden says:
    @jacques sheete

    I read the Wikipedia article. It was indeed a British government war known as King William’s war. It was one of many attempts by the British to grab Canada from France.

    The British government required the colonies to raise and pay the costs of militias to fight in that war. Massachusetts didn’t have the money so the colonial officials issued paper money

  206. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    there’s a very sound reason for controlling all the flow of news and entertainment and information

    you get to decide who people’s national (even universal) heroes and villains are..

    if you polled the people of the world, ‘who was the most evil man who ever lived?’, we all know what the answer would be hands down, bar none. The only curiousity would be who comes in a distant second.

    if you asked ‘who was the smartest man that ever lived?’

    I suspect that it’d overwhelmingly be Albert Einstein, and while smart, he was no Isaac Newton, not even close

    so if you control what people see, hear, read or watch on the screen, then you get to herd the sheeple’s minds and bodies to the point that the most admired women in the world is a rancid war hag and lying, murderous psychopath.

    it’s like Tony said

    first you print the money

    then you get the power

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  207. KenH says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Right, there is no separation of synagogue and state. Just like the Christian cross in Bladensburg, MD was declared “unconstitutional” but the giant menorah on the white house lawn somehow isn’t. As the saying goes, to determine who wields power in a society is just a matter of (((whom))) we aren’t permitted to criticize without severe penalties.

    Criticize Jews in America and you will be economically ruined unless you genuflect and prostrate yourself before them.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  208. geokat62 says:
    @Rurik

    Things are getting very interesting in Wisconsin.

    Here is something PN retweeted:

    The “Culture of Critique” Google Trends seven day chart is even more striking. It had already spiked >24h ago.

    THIS
    IS
    HOW
    YOU
    REDPILL
    NORMIES

    I think he may be on to something as far as promoting Prof. MacDonald’s CofC.

  209. Tammy says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Modern Hebrew, along with Modern Arabic, has been an official language in Israel since the British Mandate of Palestine, a situation that continued after the Israeli Declaration of Independence in 1948.

    As I mentioned above both Modern Arabic and Modern Hebrew is written without vowels, especially TaNaKh (Old Testament) just like the Old, Old Arabic/Hebrew. Hebrew language was dead during the times of Prince of Peace and therefore He spoke to His disciples in Aramaic. The Prince of Peace being Divine can speak any language.

    As I wrote in #187, Hebrew was revived from Arabic in late 19th century, it was revived from real Semitic language called Arabic. The name mhmd is written without vowels in Modern Arabic, thus one will see many variants of this word in English or any other Arabic word.

    It was in Quran, the real Arabic was revealed with vowels and proper grammar. This Quranic Arabic is taught only in Universities to Arabic Linguistic students, no matter if they are Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists and so forth. This Quranic Arabic is called Classical Arabic which is Real Arabic in contrast to Modern Arabic.

    From the Quranic/Classical Arabic proper vocalization was put into the TaNaKh (Old Testament) during 12th to 15th centuries. Till today the Jews due to fear of God, write stupidly God as G-d without vowels. So let me put vowels in YHWH Elohim. It becomes YaHuwah Elohim, meaning O’ He Elohim and written umpteen times YHWH Elohim in the Old Testament, which becomes umpteen times O’ He Elohim.

    “God of Israel” is referring to a name which G-d commands Himself to be called. Exodus 3:15 God, furthermore, said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is My name forever, and this is My memorial-name to all generations. From this moment forward the nations were put on notice (once again) that not only they will be held accountable for the 7 Noahide Laws, but also that the Israelites were commanded in 613 commandments, including the conquering the Land Of Israel. The Canaanite nations were declared homeless overnight.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  210. @Tammy

    Thank you Tammy.

    Pretty soon Ron Unz is going to charge tuition for all this mind-expanding truth-telling information.

    • Replies: @Tammy
  211. RobinG says:
    @geokat62

    His [MacDonald's] work draws on his psychology background, and he casts Jewish behavior as a type of self-preservation “group evolutionary strategy.”

    Wow. Seems like a definition Sam could endorse.

  212. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @LA Dude

    That nice living standard comes from theft,donations,grants,and gifts from US taxpayers It comes from coercive theft from all over EU. It also comes from displacing Arabs

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  213. RobinG says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Thanks S2. Interesting, but way too fuzzy for my purposes. So, I’ll stick with present day, thoroughly documented, and averred by the perpetrators like Makovsky.

    CLEAN BREAK II: IRAN HAWKS DECIDE to BURN IT ALL DOWN

    Incisive, copiously cited post at Lobe Log. Excellent comment a bonus.
    “In response to Iran’s rising profile in the Middle East, fueled mostly by a war those neocons ardently championed and the striking ineptitude of the hawks’ new favorite Persian Gulf monarchy, the intellectual heirs to the men who drew those ill-fated borders are proposing, long after it might have done any good, to re-draw them.”

    http://lobelog.com/clean-break-ii-iran-hawks-decide-to-burn-it-all-down/

    Clean Break II: Iran Hawks Decide to Burn It All Down

  214. @anon

    In fact the people of Okinawa would love nothing more then to see all the US armed forces leave.

    No, even as they bitch about the American base, their entire economy depends on it. If Okinawans really want Americans out, they could just refuse to do business with Americans. But they sell tons of stuff to Americans. And Okinawan women are a bunch of whores to put out to American men.

    In any case your “pimp” analogy is wrong. Pimps MAKE MONEY off of their whores. The USA gains nothing and expends a great deal of money maintaining its Asiatic empire.

    No, US gets to control Japan, Taiwan, and S. Korea as its vassals. To the imperialist-minded, Power is its own reward. Power is more valuable than mere cash.

    • Agree: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  215. The formulation of any rational State policy becomes impossible when such major elements of knowledge are excluded from public discussion; it is like playing billiards with twisted cues and elliptical balls.

    Actually it’s more like playing while blindfolded and without knowing the rules of the game.

  216. @RobinG

    …but way too fuzzy for my purposes. So, I’ll stick with present day, thoroughly documented, and averred by the perpetrators like Makovsky.

    To really be in a position to understand these things, a decent knowledge of history (as opposed to propaganda), is requisite. For instance, the first paragraph in your article reads,:

    The 20th century was rife with partitions, many of them involving European powers carving up colonial possessions in Africa and the Middle East with what often appears to have been little or no concern for local realities. Perhaps the most famous of these free-hand attempts at state creation is the Sykes-Picot Line, whose legacy is very much still with us (and not for the better). But Sykes-Picot is far from the only example of European colonial borders that are still causing problems decades after they were drawn.

    That’s all true as far as it goes, but it only grazes the surface.

    Without knowing what went on in the fuzzy mists of times long past, one wouldn’t know that the authors have an apparently gaping hole in their knowledge, for the reality is worse than they state.

    A larger truth is that it wasn’t only the colonial positions that were carved up without respect for the locals, but European countries themselves, most of which weren’t even involved in colonial adventurism, and that Wilson and Lloyd George, in a heavy handed and dictatorial manner carved up, dictated to, and repeatedly betrayed former allies such as the Arabs, the Japanese, Italians, Poles Soviets, Ro(u)manians, and others in the process of acting as puppets of international finance. That’s an extremely well documented fact that’s absolutely key to appreciating what’s going on today.

    At a minimum it teaches us that we’ve long been lied to and that there have long been forces behind the scenes manipulating the actors in the limelight who themselves routinely say one thing and do another.

    • Agree: SolontoCroesus, Rurik
  217. @RobinG

    Good article on Lobelog that punches holes in the Makovsky plan for remaking the Middle East in the image & likeness of neocondom.

    I thought you were looking for material on the SS St Louis. As it happens, Michael Makovsky, his brother David, uncle Alan and father Donald are all from St. Louis, MO, and all are in the business of interfering in other sovereign peoples’s lives.
    Brother David preceded Michael in mapmaking exercises: six years ago, David Makovsky drew a map dividing up Israel and Palestine. http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/makovsky-brothers-half-midwest-and-half-mideast#stream/0

    Makovsky is obsessed with Iran (as are many/most/all Israel firsters), but Iran was not among those states “redrawn” after WWI (Iran was neutral in WWI but was occupied by British forces who exploited Iranian foodstuffs to such an extent that 8 to 10 million Persians starved to death, and Iran did not regain its pre-WWI population numbers until the 1960s http://english.khamenei.ir/news/2197/8-10-million-Iranians-died-over-Great-Famine-caused-by-the-British ).

    Likewise, Iran was neutral but occupied during WWII by both Russia and US & British forces and served as vital transit for fuel and supplies to Allied armies. After WWII, USA carried out one of its few honest acts toward Iran when it helped to kick out Russians who intended to stay in Iranian borders.

    Several of the comments on Lobelog are to the point: why is Makovsky given a platform?

    Wouldn’t the world be a better place if new, tight, reinforced borders were drawn around the Makovskys to contain their shit-stirring activities.

  218. @denk

    The graph is bogus. Israel should be in 1st place at 25%, with several other countries (including Iran and N. Korea who if left alone would be harmless) reduced to 3% or less to make up the difference. Zionist control of the MSM accounts for the fact that a relatively small number of Americans are aware that Jewish bankers, along with Israel’s plans for Greater Israel are the #1 instigators of war in the Middle East and everywhere else.

    • Replies: @denk
  219. geokat62 says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Wouldn’t the world be a better place if new, tight, reinforced borders were drawn around the Makovskys to contain their shit-stirring activities.

    I think this statement should be generalized to:

    Wouldn’t the world be a better place if new, tight, reinforced borders were drawn around The Lobby to contain their shit-stirring activities.

  220. @KenH

    “To learn who rules over you, simply learn who you are not allowed to criticize.” (French philosopher and historian Voltaire)

    • Agree: KenH
  221. @Priss Factor

    I was stationed on Okinawa from 1964 though 1966 (US Army draftee) and can attest that you are 100% correct. If not for US military money to sustain Okinawa’s economy it would, undoubtedly be one of the poorest places on earth. I hated to see my time on Okinawa come to an end. Can’t imagine a better place to have been.

  222. @jacques sheete

    Jacques Sheete: “Casting ballots for frauds is much worse than a joke.
    The only answer I can see is to boycott the system in any way one can.”

    Jacques,

    POT(Z)US election campaigns are an entertaining “fraud” and for me, it was hard to detach interest from the Hillary vs. The Donald theater.

    Yes… prior to casting a vote for Trump/Pence non-interventionism and the ticket’s pie-in-sky “Make America Great Again,” I knew the “joke” outcome would would make Jewish billionaires and Lobbies laugh at me and similarly deceived others.

    Right now, Jacques, the ZUS enforced “election” system has placed participation SANCTIONS upon the low percentage of Amerikans who bother to vote!

    Subsequently, elite & secular US Jews would crack their ribs if a system “boycott” were organized and implemented.

    Full disclosure, I resisted making comment on this article by Mr. Giraldi due to frustration with the article’s very title and suggestion that there is an actual US “National” security strategy.

    Thanks, Jacques.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  223. denk says:
    @Carroll Price

    I know.
    That list is fucked up,
    USA is so fucked up and it fuck up the world like a cancer cell.

    I mean,
    WTH is UK doing at the bottom , 1% , really ?

    http://www.us-uk-interventions.org/

    USA only 24% ?
    Come on ,
    More like 99 !

    Those 6% who voted China must be dumbed down murkkans,
    Elementary Watson !

    India more peaceful than China ?
    Sure if all you read are five eyes MSM !

    Oz/Jp should be right up there with FUKSI,

    Oz has never seen a murkkan war it doesnt like,

    The Jp have just shredded their article 9 leash,
    itching to redeem the glory of imperial Jap army ,

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/11/04/national/politics-diplomacy/trump-warns-china-face-big-problem-warrior-nation-japan-north-korea/

    Israel’s plans for Greater Israel are the #1 instigators of war in the Middle East and everywhere else.

    From what I gather,
    its more like…

    Israel => ME,
    FUKUSI[NDIA] => everywhere else !

  224. Z-man says:
    @trixie dixie

    Good post.

    BTW Israel and the Zionist Neocon aggenda is the greatest threat to world peace.

  225. @SolontoCroesus

    S2C to RobinG: “Likewise, Iran was neutral but occupied during WWII by both Russia and US & British forces and served as vital transit for fuel and supplies to Allied armies. After WWII, USA carried out one of its few honest acts toward Iran when it helped to kick out Russians who intended to stay in Iranian borders.”

    SolontoCroesus,

    There is a province in Iran known as Baluchistan that shares critical borders with Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    Maintaining political influence in Baluchistan was an important component of Soviet Central Asian Strategy. In fact, Party Secretary Nikita Khrushchev guaranteed tangible support for “progressives” who were politically active in Baluchistan.

    At present, it’s difficult for me to accept your premise (above) that post-WW II US executed an “honest” act toward Iran by “kicking out Russians” intent to stay within Iranian land. Nope.

    Fact now is that Baluchistan’s contiguous neighbors are Afghanistan and Pakistan.
    And although this particular (floating) ZUS-front is rather quiet now in our Corporate Media, both strategic countries are subject to the DISHONEST and aggressive Trump administration’s renewed military strategy to increase war pressure upon the Islamic Republic of Iran.

    At any rate, S2C, Baluchistan is on my mind tonight and not Georgia. Thanks!

  226. @SolontoCroesus

    S2C, thank you once again.

    The history of 20th century Persia is both a must read and fascinating, and having some familiarity with it is crucial in evaluating the veracity of those pushing for war with that country whose people and leadership do not deserve to be threatened and harassed as they continue to be.

    As you well know, I’m sure, at a minimum people should be familiar with the surprise attack on neutral Persia (Iran) by the Allies 3 months prior to the attack on Pearl which resulted in the Brit confiscation of the Persian oil industry and resources and initiated the establishment of the Persian Corridor through which the USA shipped enough war materiel to outfit some 60 Soviet divisions.

    I’m sure you’d agree as well that the Persians, wanting to modernize,called in an American, Morgan Shuster to help them organize their finances, but the agent was kicked out of the country by the Brits and Russians. His book is well worth a read.

    The Strangling of Persia Paperback – June 14, 2006
    by W. Morgan Shuster (Author)

    In 1911, an ambitious American was invited by a budding Iranian democracy to bring financial stability to the country. He went with the blessing of the British and Russian governments, both of which enjoyed a wide sphere of influence in the region. However, no one expected him to succeed so quickly in making Iran into a credible democracy and he was ousted by the actions of the Russian and British governments. After he was forced to return to the US, Shuster wrote a book revealing the true motives of the superpowers of the time and how the region’s course of history was forever altered. Strangling of Persia offers keen insights into the timeless methods used by powerful nations to achieve their own ends. Almost 100 years after its’ first publication, it remains a powerful indictment of a short-sighted policy that crushed a fragile but promising democracy.

    https://archive.org/details/stranglingofpers001925mbp

    All this blabbering about Iran (Persia) being an enemy is the opposite of the truth. The Anglo-American-Zio thugs are the enemy and have been for quite some time.

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @Art
    , @Rurik
  227. @SolontoCroesus

    Thank you for bringing this up.:

    WWI (Iran was neutral in WWI but was occupied by British forces who exploited Iranian foodstuffs to such an extent that 8 to 10 million Persians starved to death, and Iran did not regain its pre-WWI population numbers until the 1960s

    http://english.khamenei.ir/news/2197/8-10-million-Iranians-died-over-Great-Famine-caused-by-the-British ).

    The Brits should be well known for causing the starvation of millions from Ireland to India, being responsible for tens of millions of deaths, and the US “ally,” Joey the Red Stalin starved 7-10 million Ukrainians in 1932-1933, a date which is important because 1933 was the year that FDR recognized the Soviet Union, and the year the Nazis were just coming into power. yet they were demonized from the start, and the US continued to support Stalin even while Stalin was helping Hitler circumvent the restrictions placed on his military by the Treaty of Versailles, and even during the time of the well known hitler-Stalin pact. Go figure!

    Despite those figures, I doubt that 1 in 10,000 Americans have any clue about them, while in contrast, everyone thinks he knows something about the figure, 6,000,000…

    (I hope you don’t think I’m preaching to you since there is no doubt that you are familiar with all of this and more, but it’s for the benefit of those who dismiss the importance of being aware of historical facts. Thanks in advance for your indulgence!)

    • Agree: Beefcake the Mighty
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  228. @ChuckOrloski

    Full disclosure, I resisted making comment on this article by Mr. Giraldi due to frustration with the article’s very title and suggestion that there is an actual US “National” security strategy.

    I hear ya, Chuck.

    I don’t blame anyone for taking a shot and voting for the Trumpster, but I do blame those who support(ed) the War Witch. I myself went to the polls as always now, just to make a statement. And yes, I’m aware that it made no diff…

  229. Tammy says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Thank you Tammy.

    Pretty soon Ron Unz is going to charge tuition for all this mind-expanding truth-telling information.

    Touché S2C. Thanks for the sarcasm, coming from you it is a feather in the cap. Here is a quote from your favorite (sarcasm) terrorist, a wolf in sheep clothing, I mean Uri Anvery:

    “The latest outburst came from an unexpected source. Its bears an unusual name: Tzipi Hotovely. Hers is a Georgian name. Her parents did indeed emigrate (or “make aliyah”) from that former Soviet republic. (Since in the Hebrew script vowels are not written, few Israelis know how to pronounce this name correctly.)

    http://original.antiwar.com/avnery/2017/12/01/netanyahu-not-king-worlds-jews/&#8221;

    AND

    “Why No Vowels in the Torah?

    Question: When I was a kid, I went to Hebrew school and learned the Hebrew letters and the vowels. But when it came time for my bar mitzvah and I started learning to read the Torah, I noticed that there aren’t actually any vowels in the Torah, and I had to memorize the pronunciation of every word. Why is that? Is it just to make it super-hard to become a Jewish adult?

    http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/3087993/jewish/Why-No-Vowels-in-the-Torah.htm&#8221;

    Of course, you are welcome to read the BS reply on the above site but as the Wondering Jew doesn’t have a real language. It is taken from Arabic. This is a well known fact to Arabic Linguistic students.

    As someone else I admire on this site will say, “selah”

  230. denk says:
    @Priss Factor

    But those yellow dog whore nations cling to Uncle Sam as pimp.

    I hope you’ve the cojones to tell that to these ladies !

  231. geokat62 says:

    The final touches are being made:

    US, Israel Sign Secret Deal to Cooperate Against Iran

    Mid-December Deal Established Several Teams to Target Iran

    Israeli media is reporting a secret deal was negotiated and signed by the Trump and Netanyahu governments regarding what they described as “the Iranian threat,” pledging full cooperation with one another in targeting Iran in various ways.

    Negotiated behind closed doors, The deal was a series of memorandums of understanding negotiated through National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster which will see the establishment of multiple teams of both US and Israeli officials charged with targeting different aspects of Iran, from their civilian nuclear program to their defensive missile systems.

    This is ultimately expected to result in “steps on the ground,” though the exact details of what this means are unclear. Both Trump and Netanyahu’s governments appear to have designs on confrontation with Iran, potentially military confrontation.

    Exactly how this will change US or Israeli policy isn’t very clear. In the near term President Trump seems to be set with trying to sabotage the P5+1 nuclear deal, and Israel is perpetually beating the war drums on Iran, and indeed any other Shi’ites they come upon, so they have limited options for anything else they can do.

    Much of the focus is likely to be on planning and making joint speeches about how “aggressive” Iran is being, and how super ready for war the US and Israel are, though naturally there is always a risk that any such joint operations grow from another layer of bureaucracy into launching a war outright.

    Still, it’s also possible that such a proposal didn’t come with anything specific in mind, and rather just progressed because both US and Israeli officials didn’t want to seem insufficiently hostile toward Iran by not signing off on the understanding.

    http://news.antiwar.com/2017/12/28/us-israel-sign-secret-deal-to-cooperate-against-iran/

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  232. @geokat62

    Hi geo,

    I focus special attention upon the war policy assertion that the (united) Trump-Netanyahu government “pledges full cooperation with one another in targeting Iran in various ways.”

    Thanks for passing on how “final touches” are being implemented and remain relatively unknown to the insouciant American citizen / consumer.

    Below is a example of how in 1953, the unaccountable CIA targeted and overthrew Iran’s elected leader, Mossaddeq who desired to nationalize the country’s oilfield resource.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/19/cia-admits-role-1953-iranian-coup

    (Zigh) Of course now, history coming full circle, USrael is targeting the leadership of Iran’s Islamic Republic and are hell-bent upon establishing Greater Israel..

    Need I suggest that the American-Israeli Empire will always get their wars.

    Thanks, Bro geokat!

    Selah, there’s no show business like the show business that suggests America has an independent National Security policy.

    • Replies: @Tammy
    , @Art
  233. Tammy says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Selah, there’s no show business like the show business that suggests America has an independent National Security policy.

    Selah, don’t believe everything you read. Time for payback for 9/11 and payback is a bitch. Remember, the quote, “chickenshit”, well the chickenshit is now scared shit and is wetting his pants….

    Since, 9/11 the all 3 Presidents are using the same playbook. President Trump has already denied that he told General Kelly to approach the Russian Ambassador on USA sanctions imposed on Russia by President Obama.

    So, who ordered Kelly if it was not Trump?

    Selah….

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  234. anon • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/de31078c-dee5-3fa9-b50f-0ece319a348d/ss_israeli-minister-gets.html

    Israeli minister gets ‘Palestine’ removed from NBA site
    Fox News Dec 29 2017

    JERUSALEM – Israel’s sports minister says she got the words “Palestine-occupied territory” removed from an NBA website. Miri Regev, in her letter to NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, called Palestine “an imaginary ‘state’.” She said the listing was not in line with President Donald Trump’s recent recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Anonymous
  235. Art says:
    @jacques sheete

    All this blabbering about Iran (Persia) being an enemy is the opposite of the truth. The Anglo-American-Zio thugs are the enemy and have been for quite some time.

    It is amazing that so few people are actually playing these geopolitical games. If we could lock up the top 1,000 players no matter who, then the next 1,000, then the next 1,000 – we could have peace in this world. America could offer up the first 500.

    From then on – any leader of any country that gets people killed (foreign or domestic) would automatically be suspended from power and sent to jail.

    Seriously, we need to start thinking about how we can achieve peace – what would it take to limit government power to attack people.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Any suggestions for our 500?

  236. Art says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    I focus special attention upon the war policy assertion that the (united) Trump-Netanyahu government “pledges full cooperation with one another in targeting Iran in various ways.”

    This is being done in secret – the American people are not even being considered in the equation. By the time these actions become apparent to the public, it will be to late to change course.

    Trump made implicit promises to the American people, of non-intervention in the 2016 election. Those “implicit promises of non-intervention” were part of the equation people used to vote for him.

    What can we say – with these secret negations to intervene in Iran’s internal affairs – it looks like he is going behind our back!

    Did Trump trick us?

    Think Peace — Art

  237. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    The whole of Persia to-day a satrapy. The people, however brutally treated, have no means of protest. Fear, daily sickening fear of the prison, noose and torture is the force with which Russia governs.

    April 30, 1912

    page 268

    sounds exactly like it was under the Shah, with (the Mossad, CIA operated) SAVAK providing the ubiquitous fear (terror)

    The Imperial Bank of Persia (a British corporation) issues under its charter, banknotes redeemable in krans.

    - page 318

    in Persia.. there are no gold coins in circulation.] – page 317

    please check out page 331, last two paragraphs

    333 last paragraph

    amazingly well-referenced book!

    and it also gives glimmers into the motivations for WWI, with the Anglo desire to encircle and stave off Germany’s nascent ascendancy.

    and shows Perfidious Albion wasn’t just running death camps for the families of Dutch farmers in S. Africa at the beginning of the bloodiest of centuries, (on behalf of it’s ((bankster class))) – as usual, but were busy with their murderous$ iniquity all over the planet.

    unbounded treachery and corruption – and dire suffering of the ordinary people

    >>><<<

    one of my running lamentations is the tragic and historic folly of hereditary rule

    it was the ruination of Russia under the foppish Tsar Nicholas, who being a mediocre man and inept ruler, was also given to imperial rapine, as the book demonstrates.

    and the Strangling (rape) of Persia would not have been possible were it not for the endemic and baleful mediocrity and corruption of its hereditary ruling elites

    https://ia802608.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/23/items/stranglingofpers001925mbp/stranglingofpers001925mbp_tif.zip&file=stranglingofpers001925mbp_tif/stranglingofpers001925mbp_0166.tif&scale=4&rotate=0

    thank you Jacques for yet another eye-opening link

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  238. @Art

    Iran hit by second day of anti-government protests
    BBC News Dec 29 2017

    Anti-government demonstrations that began in one city on Thursday have now spread to several major cities in Iran.

    Large numbers are reported to have turned out in Rasht, in the north, and Kermanshar, in the west, with smaller protests in Shiraz, Isfahan and Hamadan.

    The protests began against rising prices but have spiralled into a general outcry against clerical rule.

    A small number of people have been arrested in Tehran, the capital.

    They were among a group of 50 people who gathered in a city square, Tehran’s deputy governor-general for security affairs told the Iranian Labour News Agency.

    The governor-general of Tehran earlier said that any such gatherings would be firmly dealt with by the police, who are out in force on main intersections.

    The demonstrations are the most serious and widespread expression of public discontent in Iran since protests in 2009 that followed a disputed election, correspondents say.

    The biggest protest on Thursday was in the north-eastern city of Mashhad, where there were 52 arrests.

    There have been calls on social media for protests up and down the country, despite warnings from the government against illegal gatherings.

    Videos posted on social media purport to show clashes between security forces and some demonstrators in Kermanshah on Friday.

    ‘Harsh slogans’

    The protests on Thursday started with anger at the inability of the government of President Hassan Rouhani to control prices – the cost of eggs has doubled in a week.

    However, some developed into broader anti-government protests, calling for the release of political prisoners and an end to police beatings.

    There were also chants in Mashhad of “not Gaza, not Lebanon, my life for Iran”, a reference to what protesters say is the administration’s focus on foreign policy rather than domestic issues.

    The arrests in Mashhad were for chanting “harsh slogans”, officials said.

    ‘Seething discontent’

    Analysis by Kasra Naji, BBC Persian

    The demonstrations have taken the Iranian authorities by surprise. Impromptu anti-government demonstrations are rare in a country where the Revolutionary Guard and numerous intelligence agencies have a strong grip on the population.

    Predictably they are blaming anti-revolutionary elements and foreign agents. But the protests clearly stem from seething discontent in Iran, mainly because of the worsening economic conditions faced by ordinary Iranians.

    A BBC Persian investigation has found that Iranians, on average, have become 30% poorer in the past ten years alone.

    Many believe Iranian leaders are spending money that should be used to improve their lot on war efforts abroad. Billions are also being spent on spreading religious propaganda and Shia Islam around the world.

    But it seems that the hardliners opposed to President Rouhani may have triggered the unrest by holding a demonstration that quickly grew out of control and spread to cities and towns across the country.

    The head of Mashhad’s revolutionary court, Hossein Heidari, said: “We consider protest to be the people’s right but if some people want to abuse these emotions and ride this wave, we won’t wait and will confront them.”

    President Rouhani promised that the deal he signed with world powers in 2015, which saw Iran limit its nuclear activities in return for the lifting of international sanctions, would boost economic growth.

    The economy has risen out of recession and inflation has been reduced, but businesses are still struggling from a lack of investment and the official unemployment rate is 12.4%.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @jacques sheete
    , @L.K
  239. Rurik says:
    @Art

    p.s. Any suggestions for our 500?

    I can provide the names of 535 people pretty easily, (ten more if you include the president and supreme court justices) but I’m not sure all of them are treasonous scum

    [Justice Gorsuch seems like an honorable man, for instance]

    certainly more than 500 tho

    can we contribute more than 500?

  240. Art says:
    @anon

    Israel’s sports minister says she got the words “Palestine-occupied territory” removed from an NBA website. Miri Regev, in her letter to NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, called Palestine “an imaginary ‘state’.”

    The clear intent of the Jews is to erase “Palestine” for human memory.

    Trump/Netanyahu/Kushner talk of peace is a cruel cynical subterfuge – they have zero intent on a just peace.

    Iraq, Syria, Lebanon. Iran, Palestine.

    Why do I hear Wagner’s The Ride of the Valkyries?

    Think Peace — Art

    • Agree: Z-man
  241. @jacques sheete

    Bring it on, jacques sheete.

    I was NOT aware of the Allied attack on Persia pre-Pearl Harbor.

    Brits are really shitty people.
    My Roman (Italian) ancestors did their best to civilize the people who colored their faces; guess it didn’t take.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  242. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    But the same Miri Regev is completely content with the neo-Nazi parades in Ukraine, with the neo-Nazis in the “liberated” Ukrainian Government (RADA) in Kiev, and with the wave of desecration of Jewish cemeteries in the post-Maidan (post Kagans’ revluton) Ukraine. Israel and Israel-firsters have found as profitable to cooperate with both ISIS (against Syria) and neo-Nazis (against Russia). But questioning the Holocaust data can destroy a person’s career and even send her/him to prison.
    Israel and the Lobby (including the Friends of Israel in the UK) are moral midgets and, due to their oversized influence on the corrupt governmens in the US and EU, they are the scourge of humanity.

  243. Art says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    The economy has risen out of recession and inflation has been reduced, but businesses are still struggling from a lack of investment and the official unemployment rate is 12.4%.

    An Aside.

    There is something really wrong with our current money systems – there is no reason (godly or otherwise) why money is not available for expansion in a culture.

    We need new money tech.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Agree: SolontoCroesus
  244. Rurik says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    I was NOT aware of the Allied attack on Persia pre-Pearl Harbor.

    neither was I !

    Jacque is a treasure trove!

    Brits are really shitty people.

    I pray you’re being facetious

    it is not the British people- who today are shat upon by their eiltes like no other

    it’s the absolutely corrupted, endemically pedophile, inbred, duplicitous, (perfidious) British elites and aristocrats who are “really shitty people”, and that’s an understatement!

    The average Brit has to suffer these maggots more than most, as their island is systematically overrun by armies of culturally and ethnically foreign invaders.

    The worst thing you can say about the average Brit is that he continues to suffer these treasonous- boy-raping aristocrats in abject and humiliated silence.

    looking at your recent post vis-a-vis Iran, it looks like the Brits could learn something from those people and that nation – who have suffered so terribly at the hands of the Satanic British elites – but that list is long… those who have been crushed under the juggernaut of evil emanating out of the London banking houses..

    it’s been recently mentioned the British attacks upon the French in Montreal, Quebec, going back to the 17th century in their infinite lust for rapine

    marauding the high seas

    cruel prisons down under..

    death camps for Dutch farm families in S. Africa

    leading to horrors perpetrated against Germany also in the last century that curdle the blood

    but none of this is a reflection of the decent and noble character of the British people, who have also been forced to act as cannon fodder for the Crown and Peerage’s endless wars and enormities visited upon the people of this planet and the British poor and working classes.

    IMHO

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @SolontoCroesus
  245. @Art

    Art to me: “Did Trump trick us?”

    Yes — that’s a primary characteristic of ZUS presidential campaigns and election outcomes.

    “Peace” bluntly arrives upon one’s awareness of the reality, above.

    Thanks, Art.

  246. geokat62 says:
    @Art

    p.s. Any suggestions for our 500?

    I wouldn’t focus on 500 people, Art. I would focus on the 500 organizations that make up The Lobby “American Style”:

    Goldberg (1996, 38–39) notes that presently there are approximately 300 national Jewish organizations in the United States with a combined budget estimated in the range of $6 billion—a sum, Goldberg notes, greater than the gross national product of half the members of the United Nations. – Prof. Kevin MacDonald Ch. 7, The Culture of Critique

    If the American people can somehow slay this dragon, the MIC will have lost one of their biggest sponsors that advocates for a big military budget:

    Senator McGovern is very sincere when he says that he will try to cut the military budget by 30%. And this is to drive a knife in the heart of Israel… Jews don’t like big military budgets. But it is now an interest of the Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the United States… American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel. – Irving Kristol

    … and for war:

    Iraq

    Syria

    Lebanon

    Libya

    Somalia

    Sudan

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Art
  247. Rurik says:
    @Rurik

    just reading my post I’m reminded of so much that I left out

    starvation of India

    gas attacks on Iraqis

    starvation and occupation of the Irish

    Massacres in Kenya

    current wars in the Middle East…

    the list seems endless

    but these are all crimes of the British aristocracy, who’ve been responsible for war crimes and atrocities going back centuries.

    not of Rudyard Kipling or Charles Dickens or Oscar Wilde or George Orwell or John Locke or David Hume or David Irving or David Attenborough or John Cleese or Isaac Newton or John Lennon or Francis Bacon or Enoch Powell or Charles Darwin or William Shakespeare or Mary Shelley or Jack London, just to name a tiny few of an endless list of Brits who’ve enriched the human spirit with their contributions.

    the British aristocracy is as rotten and vile and loathsome as any group of people ever were

    they’re up there with the Likudniks of today or their cousins, the Bolsheviks of yesterday

    but there is a world of difference between the execrable criminals like Tony Blair and David Cameron, vs. these guys:

    who like the British working class today, also suffered the horrors inflicted upon mankind by the past and current British peerage and ((aristocracy))

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  248. @Tammy

    Tammy needlessly to me: “Selah, don’t believe everything you read. Time for payback for 9/11 and payback is a bitch. Remember, the quote, “chickenshit”, well the chickenshit is now scared shit and is wetting his pants….”

    Right back at Tammy’s freshman-level advice, re; the above quote:

    A Question.

    Who is the “chickenshit” that’s purportedly “wetting his pants”?

    Possibly POT(Z)US Trump and post-wet dream?

    (Zigh) Why do I waste making a comment response to Tammy?

    • Replies: @Tammy
  249. @geokat62

    “American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel. – Irving Kristol”

    Thanks geokat62!

    Irving Kristol (above) has articulated truth about the offensive & treasury busting ZUS “National Security strategy.”

  250. @Rurik

    thank you Jacques for yet another eye-opening link

    And thank you for pointing out several relevant pieces of info gleaned from it. Your comments are excellent and appreciated as usual.

    and it also gives glimmers into the motivations for WWI, with the Anglo desire to encircle and stave off Germany’s nascent ascendancy.

    and shows Perfidious Albion wasn’t just running death camps for the families of Dutch farmers in S. Africa at the beginning of the bloodiest of centuries, (on behalf of it’s ((bankster class))) – as usual, but were busy with their murderous$ iniquity all over the planet.

    unbounded treachery and corruption – and dire suffering of the ordinary people

    Bingo.
    Bingo.
    And Bingo!

  251. @SolontoCroesus

    But the protests clearly stem from seething discontent in Iran, mainly because of the worsening economic conditions faced by ordinary Iranians.

    So when can we conclude that the long standing economic war on Iran is finally working as intended?

    Next step: The self-appointed Messiahs of the world now have “justification” for their mission to “liberate” those poor, seething masses.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  252. @Art

    It is amazing that so few people are actually playing these geopolitical games.

    That never ceases to fascinate me, but I admit I may be easily fascinated. Sadly, it applies to most of the major events in history as far as I can tell.

    I wish there were a solution or at least some realistic and effective antidote.

    • Replies: @Art
  253. @Rurik

    just reading my post I’m reminded of so much that I left out

    Please don’t feel bad about that. It would take several lifetimes to compose a set of books and they wouldn’t cover it all.

    Besides, it invariably comes down to this; only the names and dates change.:

    …who like the British working class today, also suffered the horrors inflicted upon mankind by the past and current British peerage and ((aristocracy))

  254. Art says:
    @geokat62

    Geokat62,

    Thanks — that is a great comment – magnificent work. Those pictures illustrate the carnage created in Israel’s name.

    When it comes to the numbers, I admit that my proposal was way lacking.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. There should be a 9/11 picture also.

    • Agree: Z-man
  255. @Rurik

    I pray you’re being facetious

    the comment about Rome was certainly tongue-in-cheek.

    & the attack on “the British” was, perhaps, an attempt to stanch the rising anger toward (what Atzmon narrowly defines as) Jewishness, and its influence on US activities. It’s becoming too much to bear.

    for some reason I watch C Span Washington Journal as if I were the little Dutch boy and my job was to keep my finger in that hole in the dike.
    This morning Moderator John McArdle hosted Haroon Ullah, now a member of the Broadcast Board of Governors — USA’s propaganda machine that disinforms and messes with the minds of other people’s citizens, especially their young people. The man was totally dishonest but McArdle, ambitious poodle that he is (you can see it in his eyes), did nothing to challenge him; i.e. when a caller said, “People are only reacting to our killing their mothers and fathers; wiping out their whole families. What do you expect them to do,” Ullah, a very highly trained hasbarat/public relations apparatchik, diverted the comment, twisted it to make it sound like killing other people’s children is a good thing. He’s so smooth that most callers validated him. You can bet all the gifts under your Christmas tree that Haroon Ullah’s propaganda ministry is hard at work in Iran — as well as other ME states, of course — he placed special emphasis on the need to reach out to Syrians; Syria is apparently a special target for US State Department propaganda. https://www.c-span.org/video/?438870-3/washington-journal-haroon-ullah-discusses-countering-violent-extremism

    To my mind, distorted as it is, it seems that USA, under zioncrazed influence, is operating on the same playbook that brought you WWII — sanction and vilify a people until they can’t help but react, and their government is cornered into reacting; then kill them and destroy their culture, their historic legacy, their future.

    I have a Jewish friend of whom I’m very fond. But he won’t discuss zionism; “it’s too sad.”

    Sorry, nobody has that luxury.
    Germans who defended themselves, “We didn’t know,” or “We were just following orders” were killed or starved or forced to prostitute themselves to survive. They were brainwashed and their brainwashing continues to this day.
    What most Americans don’t understand is the extent to which the same psychological warfare techniques carried out against the German people were almost equally fully deployed against the American people. C Span is at the hub of this psy-ops network, and more insidious than most because people think it is so “fair and balanced.”

    A person who refuses to accept his own moral agency is not a fully human being, he’s a coward and an empty shell of a man.

    In a system of government Of, By, and For the People, we are all implicated, for good and for ill, in the acts of our government. “If I remain silent I have sinned.”

    sorry for the rant

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    , @NoseytheDuke
    , @Rurik
  256. @jacques sheete

    yup

    Hitler & the NSDAP were actually pretty smart and held off the FDR-US/Anglo/Churchill-Jewish war machine for good long years and resisted reacting until cornered.

    The Iranians had been allies of the Germans, all those years. It’s certain they took notes. The anglo-zionist machine will have new techniques up their sleeves, but the Iranians have been around a lot longer, and have perhaps the keenest insight into the zionist psyche than anyone else on the planet. They will be able to read the Anglo-zionist playbook and react at least as effectively as the National Socialists, and then some.
    At least that is my prayer.

    PS Anyone else notice the picture Phil used on this article — the tassels on the flag look like strings operating the puppet Trump.

    PS2 I’d include in that 500 Neuman’s Rational Institute at a university in Israel. That’s where the gaming is worked out.

  257. Art says:
    @jacques sheete

    I wish there were a solution or at least some realistic and effective antidote. (Geo-political types)

    Rulers should be treated like cops.

    When a cop shots someone he is automatically suspended until the case is judged.

    The same thing should apply to political leaders – if they kill people, foreign or domestic, they are suspended and judged.

    With the Declaration of Independence, we gave up the majesty of kings. It is time to do the same with all political leaders. Kings are not sacred – so too with leaders of countries.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  258. geokat62 says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    PS Anyone else notice the picture Phil used on this article — the tassels on the flag look like strings operating the puppet Trump.

    The exact same thought went through my mind. I was going to post this comment:

    If the tassels in the pic at the top of this page were a little longer, Trump would look like a puppet being commandeered by the puppet masters.

    • Replies: @Art
  259. @Rurik

    “warning”

    is that a threat or a generally sympathetic advice ?

  260. Art says:
    @geokat62

    If the tassels in the pic at the top of this page were a little longer, Trump would look like a puppet being commandeered by the puppet masters.

    Ivanka had one set – Jared the other.

    Pleasant dreams.

    • LOL: geokat62
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  261. @SolontoCroesus

    Speaking of Iran (then known as Persia), it was jacked around for decades by the Brits and Russians, then the Americans. Sorry for the length of the following quote, but it illustrates that the USA has been messing around with them for a long time. This describes how Iran (Persia) was treated by the big shot, world controllers in Paris after WW1.:

    … the [Treaty] Conference was morally bound to receive the Persian delegation [which had heretofore been ignored]. The utmost it obtained was that the Persian Minister of Foreign Affairs, Monalek, who was head of the delegation, had a private talk with President Wilson, Colonel House, and Mr. Lansing. These statesmen unhesitatingly promised to help Persia to secure full sovereign rights, or at any rate to enable her delegates to unfold their country’s case and file their protests before the Conference . The delegates were comforted and felt sure of the success of their mission .

    They told the American plenipotentiaries that the United States would be Persia’s creditor for this help and that she would invite American financiers to put her money matters in order, American engineers to develop her mining industries, and the American oil firms to examine and exploit her petrol deposits.’ In a word, Persia would be Americanized. This naive announcement of the role reserved for American benefactors in the land of the Shah might have impressed certain commercial and financial interests in the United States, but was wholly alien to the only order of motives that could properly move the American plenipotentiaries to interpose in favor of their would-be wards .

    The promises made by Messrs. Wilson, House, and Lansing came to nothing. For months the Persian envoys lived in hope which was strengthened by the assurances of various members of the Conference that the intervention of Mr. Wilson would infallibly prove successful. But events belied this forecast, whereupon the head of the Persian delegation, after several months of hopes deferred, quitted France for Constantinople, and his country’s position among the nations was settled in detail by the new agreement [ without, of course, Persia's input.]

    -Dillon, The Inside Story of the Peace Conference, p. 445-6 (1920)

    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/The_Inside_Story_Of_The_Peace_Conference-Dr-EJ_Dillon-1920-526pgs-POL.pdf

  262. @Art

    The same thing should apply to political leaders – if they kill people, foreign or domestic, they are suspended and judged.

    Even the ancients, particularly the Athenians (and their so-called democracy, for instance), did that. Those in positions of power were held personally responsible for their actions. It was a good idea in my opinion but even that had its limits.

  263. iffen says:

    Can’t you dickheads at least get into a circle?

  264. yeah says:
    @Z-man

    I was strongly pro-Trump, mainly because he was “Other than Hillary” and somebody who talked about a less interventionist foreign policy. And he talked anti-globalization – especially anti the free trade, open borders, mass immigration scams.

    Well, turns out the guy is itching to blow up a few countries, if not the planet itself. Turns out his administration is full of morons a la Nikki Haley (the jewel in the demented, dim-witted Neocon crowd). Turns out he wants the MIC to increase its boondoggles. Turns out he is not exactly very bright, nor very independent. Turns out I was dead wrong about the man.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  265. @Art

    Art on the pic’s flag-tassels that look like puppet strings: “Ivanka had one set – Jared the other.”

    (Zigh) Above — If only things were that simple and a free Republic voting-choice were available to cut the strings connecting Ivanka and Jared’s hands and their maneuvering POT(Z)US Trump’s misrule.

    Selah, if “ifs” and “buts” were candy & nuts, Oh what a happy New Year it would be!

    • Replies: @Art
  266. RobinG says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    “If I remain silent I have sinned.” Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich attributes this to Prime Minister Dr. Mohammad Mosaddegh. (Any idea where he said it?)

    Reminded me of other versions. “There’s a special place in Hell for those who see wrong and say nothing.” Many variations of this by MLK, but originated with Dante, no?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  267. . “There’s a special place in Hell for those who see wrong and say nothing.” Many variations of this by MLK, but originated with Dante, no?”

    Hi RobinG,

    As you know, post-911, our Zionist rulers have co-opted the above truth and proclaimed, “if you see something, say something.”

    Hellish caveat here is that the evil done by them is off-limits to citizen’s openly saying so.

    Thank you.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  268. We are a circle, iffen.
    You could be part of the circle too, but right now, you ain’t.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  269. @RobinG

    Reminded me of other versions. “There’s a special place in Hell for those who see wrong and say nothing.” Many variations of this by MLK, but originated with Dante, no?

    Apparently JFK popularized the statement.

    And according to this article in Harper’s, the words are not precisely Dante’s but the sentiment is:

    https://harpers.org/blog/2010/10/dante-the-curse-on-those-who-do-nothing-in-the-face-of-evil/

    One of John F. Kennedy’s favorite quotations, which he attributed to Dante, was that “The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who in time of moral crisis preserve their neutrality.” Of course Dante never actually said that, but the sense of the statement is clearly to be found in these lines from the third canto of the Inferno. The final line of this passage, non ragioniam di lor, ma guarda e passa emerged as a colloquialism in modern Italian, used in avoiding discussion of persons deemed unworthy of attention.

    “Master, what is it that I hear? Who are
    those people so defeated by their pain?”
    And he to me: “This miserable way
    is taken by the sorry souls of those
    who lived without disgrace and without praise.
    They now commingle with the coward angels,
    the company of those who were not rebels
    nor faithful to their God, but stood apart.
    The heavens, that their beauty not be lessened,
    have cast them out, nor will deep Hell receive them –
    even the wicked cannot glory in them.”
    And I: “What is it, master, that oppresses
    these souls, compelling them to wail so loud?”
    He answered: “I shall tell you in few words.
    Those who are here can place no hope in death,
    and their blind life is so abject that they
    are envious of every other fate.
    The world will let no fame of theirs endure;
    both justice and compassion must disdain them;
    let us not talk of them, but look and pass.”

    The sense I get from this passage is that not even hell wants people who remain morally neutral.
    “If you are neither hot nor cold I will vomit thee out of my mouth.”

    click on the link; the Italian is beautiful.

    I don’t know where/when Mossadeqh said, If I remain silent I have sinned; NIAC used to post it on its website.

  270. @ChuckOrloski

    Hellish caveat here is that the evil done by them is off-limits to citizen’s openly saying so.

    Well sir.

    Looks like what Dante is telling us is that it is OUR failing if we refrain from openly confronting evil-doers. Not self-righteously — god knows I’d flunk that test — but like that Palestinian girl who smacked the Israeli cop, or like the Indians that Gandhi led and inspired to simply assert their dignity in the face of British forces with clubs — remember the scene?

    “They expect us to lose heart or fight back. We will do neither.”

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  271. L.K says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Beware of the BBC, aka British BS Corporation;

    John Pilger: BBC is one of world’s most refined propaganda services

    • Replies: @Z-man
  272. @SolontoCroesus

    SolontoCroesus,

    Remember the angry Islamic man who tossed his shoes at ZUS President G.W. Bush.

    I am sorrowful to say that there’s millions of Amerikan restless consumers who’d trample over others in order to retrieve the symbolic discarded shoes from off the press conference floor.

    Time is running short to confront “evil-doers,” and given my unwillingness to fan anyone’s ego, you S2C are among the best as goes the U.R. comment department.

    Continue to be unflappable.

    Selah what Dante would make of the inferno-video linked to comment # 277?

  273. Z-man says:
    @L.K

    Thanks for that video of that guy Pilger on the BBC and it’s impartiality.

  274. renfro says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    I can say the same about Cloak & Dagger. He is always eerily accurate. Those of us who have followed each other on foreign policy for years have learned from him.

  275. renfro says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Yep…. they have spread across this nation like a plague .
    good info connection.

  276. To All commenters including Circle-Jerk-Central, iffen:

    Who am I to say?

    Maybe there’s an Indian-American Gandhi stationed here at a Scranton “smoke shop” counter.

    Never can predict the timing of God’s mysterious ways.

    But I have a friendly question.

    Can anyone here at U.R. mention one person (domiciled in ZUSA) & who is a recognizable “brand name” in dedicated resistance to Zionist Jew political power?

    The only household name-Lite that I can offer is that of Pat Buchanan. Regrettably, as some Father Coughlin-Catholics may say, Pat’s in retreat for now.

    Only other Resistance “brand name” that comes to mind & who has retreated to surf in Mexico is Jesse “The Body” Ventura. Remember his unconventional series featured on TruTV? Quite a pisser!

    Bottom line: To date, We the “Sheeple” have no Spirit of St. Louis hero-spokesman.

    Does such incarnate-absence present a serious impediment for the snookered citizen masses to rise and expose evil?

    (Zigh) What really concerns me now is that elite ZUSA Jews are astutely planning to provide Amerika with a (populist) imposter savior.

    Thanks for the consideration. Criticism is desired, encouraged!

    • Agree: Z-man
  277. @SolontoCroesus

    I think it was meant to read, “a government on the people, in the people and up the people”, at least that way it actually makes sense.

    • LOL: Rurik
  278. @SolontoCroesus

    The Iranians had been allies of the Germans, all those years.

    True.

    After the Brits and Ruskies kicked the Americans, (who were invited in by the Persians), out of Persia, the Persians, wanting nothing to do with them, turned, instead to Germany for support, which they provided.

    It’s pretty easy to imagine how that would turn out!!!

    • Replies: @Z-man
  279. Z-man says:
    @jacques sheete

    Look at who the Iranians made a deal with the P5+1 (Germany) which the Germans then ceded to the EU.

    • Replies: @Art
  280. Z-man says:

    As an aside I just saw this guy on MSNBC John Sipher (ex CIA) who while talking about Russian interference in the US election started mentioning the threats of Iran and Hezbollah, as soon as I heard that I tuned him out. A Zionist apparatchik.

  281. @SolontoCroesus

    Hi SolontoCroesus,

    May our circle (here @ U.R.) “Be Unbroken.”

    Linked below is the late-blues singer Gregg Allman singing “Will the circle be unbroken.”

    Ciao!

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  282. iffen says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    including Circle-Jerk-Central, iffen:

    recognizable “brand name” in dedicated resistance to Zionist Jew political power

    I’m gonna help you out just this one time, Woodchuck.

    There are two main reasons.

    1) The pool of intelligent, amoral types that could effectively use anti-Semitism as an organizing tool is very small.

    2) Hard core anti-Semitism actually has a limited appeal for the broader populace.

    Put those two together and you can’t get a “mass” movement dedicated to getting dem Jews.

    If this is not the explanation, then maybe the Jewspiracy puppet masters are smart enough to never allow a “brand name” to develop that could threaten their power. :)

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  283. Art says:
    @Z-man

    Look at who the Iranians made a deal with the P5+1 (Germany) which the Germans then ceded to the EU.

    Iran is having its troubles today – Trump/Netanyahu/Kushner are busy exploiting the different ethnic divisions of its people by pitting them against each other. In 1953 the CIA destroyed Iran’s democracy. The CIA/Mossad are working to destroy the country again.

    Iran is a long time established country with many ethnic divisions. Not all of its people are Persian – and Islam is not its native religion.

    Ancient Persia was a great epic nation, which had one of the most advanced religions of all time – Zoroastrianism. Its god was the god of wisdom. It was an intellectual based thought system with an advanced notion of evolving perfection. This religion is the forerunner of Christianity.

    Arab Muslims conquered Iran in the eight century. Part of Iran’s troubles today, is the desire of the Persians to reclaim their Zoroastrian heritage. The Iranian people themselves desire to be part of the Western world – not part of Islam.

    The Jews have other plans for them.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Z-man
  284. @MEexpert

    “We have Ron Paul.”

    Thanks for your reminder, above, MEexpert.

    For millions of discontented and restless voters, Ron Paul was a “household name.”

  285. Art says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    More on “Javanka”

    Steve Bannon savages ‘Javanka’, laying bare White House tensions

    Donald Trump’s former chief strategist has called Ivanka Trump and her husband Jared Kushner ‘the railhead of all bad decisions’ in a Vanity Fair interview

    David Smith in Washington
    Sat 23 Dec ‘17 12.15 EST

    …. …. ….

    Bannon added to Vanity Fair: “Ivanka was a fount of bad advice during the campaign.”

    As for Kushner, Bannon made little attempt to disguise his contempt. “He doesn’t know anything about the hobbits or the deplorables” – using two ironic terms for Trump supporters.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/23/steve-bannon-savages-javanka-laying-bare-white-house-tensions

    Family in politics – bad bad bad!

    Think Peace — Art

  286. @ChuckOrloski

    ChuckOrloski, What an energy boost! Thanks.

    May the circle be unbroken, Let it be and Amen.

    I feel sorry for iffen. that’s all.

    My New Year’s wish to Unz Forum and a prayer for my country,

    O mia patria, si bella e perduto

    o t’ispiri il Signore un concento
    che ne infonda al patire virtù!

    ( [may we] be inspired by the Lord
    to fortify us to endure our suffering!)

  287. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Bottom line: To date, We the “Sheeple” have no Spirit of St. Louis hero-spokesman.

    So true, Chuck. Besides Lindberg, I guess the last man who tried to defy The Lobby, was Henry Ford.

    Although no hero-spokesman is on the horizon, I still think The Lobby is vulnerable to one thing… and that is hubris. They consider themselves to be so powerful, so omnipotent that they will inevitably overreach. It’s just a matter of time. Look how Russia-gate is close to turning into Zion-gate. Or how Debbie Wasserman Shultz helped rig the Democratic primaries, or how Jane Harman agreed to “waddle in” to the investigation into two AIPAC staffers who were implicated in the Larry Franklin espionage scandal. One of these days, they are going to slip up and when they do… all the chickens will come home to roost.

    Our best hope for something like that to happen is someone like an Edward Snowden. Could you imagine if someone from the NSA could get their hands on all the communications from the leading members of The Lobby – AIPAC, CofP, ADL, TIP, JINSA, etc. – or from the MOSSAD? Oh, how I would love to get a glimpse of what these organizations have been up to. I think people would be stunned to learn the depravity of the mischief they’ve been up to. One can always dream, I guess.

    Can anyone here at U.R. mention one person (domiciled in ZUSA) & who is a recognizable “brand name” in dedicated resistance to Zionist Jew political power?

    Speaking of Zionist political power, have you seen this video by Brother Nathanael, The Jews Who Run Capitol Hill? It’s a bit dated (2011), but still applies.

    Here’s the transcript, for those who prefer the written word.

    [MORE]

    With the debt ceiling fiasco playing out in our faces day after day, the byword conferred upon this Washington melodrama by political pundits is that a “dysfunctional” Congress is “malfunctioning” on Capitol Hill.

    Whether it’s House Majority leader, Zionist Jew Eric Cantor, protecting his wealthy Jewish backers from a justifiable tax, or Republican House Speaker, John Boehner, robbing American workers of their already paid-into Social Security fund, the popular song, “Send in the Clowns,” resounds with a fitting and appropriate ring.

    Perhaps this dysfunction is most clearly illustrated in the recent 29 standing ovations offered up by our Jewish-bought ‘representatives’ on the altar of genocidal Zionism during the May 24th speech of the architect of Palestinian slaughter, Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu.

    Now watch these yo yos, led by Jewish Senators Joseph Lieberman and Carl Levin, with specially-honored guest, Abraham Foxman of the ADL exalting in the galley, bob up and down while their master, Bibi Netanyahu, proffers the lie that Israel defends itself apart from US cooperation [Clip: “You Don’t Need To Send American Troops To Israel. We Defend Ourselves!”] deliberately omitting the fact that $3 billion dollars in military aid is sent to Israel by the impoverished American taxpayer every year.

    As the saying goes – “if you’re not outraged then you’re not paying attention” – that Zionist Jewry runs Capitol Hill, both inside its corridors and outside its doors.

    Believe me when I tell you, for I grew up as a Jew in an upper middle class B’nai B’rith intensive synagogue, that if any Senator or Congressman remained seated during Bibi’s speech while the rest of the lackeys stood up 29 times, they are nothing less than sitting ducks in the next election whose opponents will be funded by the Jewish Lobby AIPAC while they themselves will either be smeared or ignored in the Jewish-owned press.

    Do Americans realize (or even care in their state of oblivion) that all the major Senate and House Committee seats are chaired by Jews?

    Senator Joseph Lieberman, a Talmudic Jew, chairs Homeland Security, while his co-religionist, Carl Levin, chairs the Senate Armed Services Committee. Is it any wonder then that we are now in a Jewish police state?

    Carl Levin’s brother, Sander Levin, chairs the House Ways and Means Committee which oversees taxation…while Eric Cantor chairs the House Majority Leadership, using his powerful seat to protect his wealthy Jewish backers from a justifiable tax.

    Zionist Jew, Senator Chuckie Schumer, chairs the Senate Rules Committee and vice chairs the Senate Economic Committee. And we wonder why America is now an economic disaster zone?

    Barbara Boxer chairs the Senate Public Works Committee, Henry Waxman chairs the Senate Commerce Committee, Diane Feinstein and Jane Harman chair the Senate Intelligence Committee, and Howard Berman chairs the House Foreign Relations Committee.

    I don’t see any Murphy’s, Smith’s, or MacDonald’s on this list, do you? And if there was, I guarantee you, they’d be working for the Zionists.

    If we can “JUST SAY NO!” to the Zionist clowns who run Congress on Capitol Hill who have brought us into abject slavery to foreign leaders, namely the prime ministers of Israel and their Judaic agents at home, we’ve got a chance to free ourselves from the Zionist lock on America!

  288. Z-man says:
    @Art

    This is a humorous comment I made elsewhere about Ivanka and her weird looking Zio husband and other things.

    Our weakened leader called Putin right after this conference to discuss common issues. Putin must help Trump from his real enemies, within his own family, party and government.

    Trump: “I’m in a real bind Vladimir.”
    Putin: “Donald, first thing you have to do is send your beautiful daughter and her husband back to NY.”
    Trump: “Vlad they are great, brilliant, outstanding!”
    Putin: “They have to go. And then send McMaster packing. Also you want us to help you with the GOP, I’ll get my secret service to blackmail a couple of those pains in the ass, it’s easy Donald.”
    Trump: “Ok, ok, just let me grab a couple of your secret agents by their pussies!”
    Putin: “Da, no problem Don.”

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  289. Rurik says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Can anyone here at U.R. mention one person (domiciled in ZUSA) & who is a recognizable “brand name” in dedicated resistance to Zionist Jew political power?

    this guy has been relentless Brother Chuck

    some would say heroic

    he’s a flawed man, but his truth-telling vis-a-vis the Jewish question has made him the most maligned man in America

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @geokat62
  290. @yeah

    ” I was strongly pro-Trump”

    Bullshit, you are still mourning HC’s deserved loss and you cannot pull the wool over, at least, my eyes.

    If you had been “strongly” pro DT you would be able to grasp the precariousness of his situation, and you would see that he is walking a tight-rope, blind-folded, with no safety net , while juggling ten eggs , and dodging flack- fire from all sides.
    A lesser man would be in the funny-farm by now, under those insane conditions.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro Jazz musician.

    • Replies: @yeah
  291. Tammy says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Right back at Tammy’s freshman-level advice, re; the above quote:

    A Question.

    Who is the “chickenshit” that’s purportedly “wetting his pants”?

    Possibly POT(Z)US Trump and post-wet dream?

    I am sorry I pissed you off. I am an Arab and my language is not English, therefore it is little hard for me to write properly.

    It was Obama who called Netanyahu chickenshit. So, go back and reread my post about the chickenshit who is wetting his pants right now as Iran is on his doorsteps. At the back of his head the chickenshit knows it is payback time for 9/11, but can’t do anything about it. Trump is just toying with him like Obama and Dubya did.

    Dubya was complicit in 9/11 but had no choice, so he put the blame on Osama bin Laden. Otherwise, there would have been civil war in USA.

    Obama got Russia on board by giving them Crimea on a silver platter. Russia was kicked out from Middle East by the Evil Kissinger but they are now back.

    The most evil of them Sharon was in coma for years after 9/11, I don’t think nature had any hand in it. Most probably personal payback for 9/11.

    Muller is concentrating now on the first 18 days of Trump’s presidency. From the time Trump took office and Flynn left. By mistake I wrote Kelly. Anyhow, now we know that Flynn contacted the Russian Ambassador regarding sanction imposed by Obama. However, Trump denies he instructed Flynn.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mueller-hones-focus-in-russia-probe_us_5a4557f0e4b01370c4d9426b?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

    So, who instructed Flynn. The obvious answer is either Kushner or Pence, but I don’t think so. Who then?

    Also, read my posts on the Hebrew language and how it is still not a language.

  292. Rurik says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    the attack on “the British” was, perhaps, an attempt to stanch the rising anger toward (what Atzmon narrowly defines as) Jewishness, and its influence on US activities. It’s becoming too much to bear.

    fair enough

    destroy their culture, their historic legacy, their future.

    if it’s any consolation, ((they’re)) just as committed to destroying the British culture and legacy and future as much as anyone else’s. Or the North American’s as well.

    we’re ((their)) cannon fodder and their funding, But we’re also slated for the trash heap of history

    A person who refuses to accept his own moral agency is not a fully human being, he’s a coward and an empty shell of a man.

    In a system of government Of, By, and For the People, we are all implicated, for good and for ill, in the acts of our government. “If I remain silent I have sinned.”

    I could not disagree more with the emboldened part

    that is the mantra of general Sherman as he burned the South

    that is the mantra of the allies as they bombed Dresden

    it’s the mantra of the Soviets as they murdered and gulaged all who fought the Bolshevik fiend

    I abhor collective punishment with all my spirit

    I consider it wrong and misguided and wicked to punish innocents because they didn’t (couldn’t) rein in an evil government or tyrant.

    what you’re suggesting is the same “justification” Madeleine Albright claimed for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children, because they deserved it (it was “worth it”) for not dethroning Saddam.

    I understand your resentment (hatred even) for the cud-chewing Bovinus Americanus, but I just know too many of them that are fully and completely duped into thinking that so many of the evils the ZUSA government has perpetrated have been on ‘evil people who hate our freedom’. Yes, they really are that fucking stupid. They’re not evil, they’re dumb as cows, and I’d feel as much satisfaction as seeing them harmed as I would a field of cows, for doing what cows do.

    As I’ve mentioned often, I consider there to be a world of difference between the Dick Cheneys vs. the Pat Tillmans. Both were involved with war crimes, but only one of them knew it. And when the other got a glimmer, they blew his head off and then lied about it.

    You can hate Pat Tillman and what he represents if you want to, but I consider him an American hero, of the best sort.

    while at the same time wishing beyond hope of hopes that one day Dick Cheney (and all the rest of them) will one day answer for their crimes.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @SolontoCroesus
  293. @Tammy

    Holy smokes, you are the first person I have encountered in all of my seventy-seven years, who knows everything.
    Miracles still happen.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz artist.

  294. @Z-man

    “This is a humorous comment”

    This is not humor by any stretch of imagination, rather this is cretinous slander.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet and pro Jazz musician.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  295. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    A litany of our woes: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/12/30/much-death-destrution-awaits-us-2018/
    “…Americans with intelligence, honor, courage, and integrity have disappeared from the US national security establishment. In their place are arrogant morons high on hubris who believe: (1) We can buy anybody, (2) Those we cannot buy, we bully, (3) Those we cannot bully, we kill, (4) Nothing can happen to us, we live in total impunity no matter what we do. http://www.unz.com/tsaker/2018-war-or-no-war/
    Scott Bennett reports that US soldiers are being propagandized that Russia is an enemy with whom we are headed to war. https://www.facebook.com/capsule.ninetynine.7/videos/1992321041038611/
    The Anglo-Zionist empire is trying to overturn the Iranian agreement and to restart the attempt to overthrow the government of Syria. Lebanon’s Hezbollah is also in the empire’s sights. Washington is arming Ukraine in order to enable an attack on the breakaway provinces of Novorussia. Threats against North Korea escalate. Even little Venezuela is threatened with military intervention simply because the country wants to control its own destiny and not be controlled by Washington and the New York banks. In the opinion of some, Russia’s very cautious diplomacy has increased the likelihood that Washington will miscalculate and give the world a third world war. … Sooner or later Russia will have to stand and fight.”

  296. Rurik says:

    who knows everything.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973,

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • LOL: geokat62, Z-man
  297. geokat62 to me: “One of these days, they are going to slip up and when they do… all the chickens will come home to roost.”

    Hi geo,

    Your comment and the Brother Nathanael video is valuable education for me.

    Regarding your quotation (above) the Zionist track-record is one characterized by endless “slip ups” and are part of a vast library which is available to the public on a mere “Want-To-Know” basis.

    Although the critical False Flag 9/11 event is M.IA., the U.R. reader-base can benefit by your listing of several examples of Zionist Jew “hubris” (cause) and subsequent (effect), “overreach.”

    The great problem that each of Earth’s nations face is the fact that there is never any accountability. (Zigh) A while back, geo, I offered such stark comment on a Phil Giraldi article, and at the time, he signaled agreement.

    The worse we ever see happen, is for example, a criminal Debbie Wasserman Shultz who unaccountably fades out of the public limelight and… enjoys, prospers.

    The worst thing though is when caught in a Big Lie, for example, Mad-Man Saddam having WMD’s and need for “Shock & Awe” treatment, the Zionists can unaccountably manufacture a Bigger Lie which mandates a barbaric ZUS attack upon Iran.

    Finally, Amerikans in particular ought reckon with Brother Nathanael’s wise observation that Jews run both Capital Hill and The White House.

    Thanks, Brother geo, and I wish you & family good tidings, health, strength, & peace through 2018.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  298. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    Hi Iffen,
    re-joining after a rather interesting week which included both work and sun in Miami, I am happy to say.

    Anything new here?

    I briefly read some exchanges in the hopes of finding new information. None found I’m afraid. But it does seem we stand witness to a budding Quixotic sedition, one which [as usual] feeds on itself and implores for an alternate reality of this world we live in. In other words, it’s an aspirational world for our friends here. I would’ve wished them jolly good luck and all that, except I can’t since its success would imply gas chambers for me; with happy golosh wearers and pellet droppers doing their thing? So, no; can’t say that I can wish them luck. :-)

    Well, with formalities out of the way, permit me to make a couple of brief comments. It appears there’s this constant bickering over what a Jewish nation constitutes. First, it is what is in plain view. A modern nation which has been cast; equal parts Ha’Tikvah, Science and Tikkun Olam. Yet the Jewish nation is much more: it is the collected wisdom, knowledge and experience, good and bad, of a people which lived amongst the enlightened as they did amongst the dull, carried with discipline. That is the Talmud. It is the lightly edited log of a thousand rabbis over millennia. We learnt from the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Persians, the Germans, the English, and the Americans. We taught them, at least those willing to learn in their midst. So to speak of a Jewish nation is to speak of all of the preceding.

    I saw some clever-stupid commenter attempting to de-construct Hebrew. The less said of that comment, the better: it is a pointed example of the proverb ‘a little knowledge is a dangerous thing’. Hebrew, Lashon Ha’Kodesh is impossible to describe in a blog post. It takes decades of study to understand its provenance. I have been studying it for the better part of my adult life and cannot claim I am qualified to render a fair synopsis. Still, for those genuinely curious, Rabbi Kraft is an exceptional teacher:

    Best

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Art
    , @Tammy
    , @Tammy
    , @Art
    , @Art
  299. geokat62 says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    … and I wish you & family good tidings, health, strength, & peace through 2018.

    Thanks, Chuck. Same to you and yours.

  300. Z-man says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    To each his own.

    airborne trained US Army vet and pro Jazz musician.

    If true thanks for your service.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  301. Art says:
    @Rurik

    I consider it wrong and misguided and wicked to punish innocents because they didn’t (couldn’t) rein in an evil government or tyrant.

    Rurik,

    Could not agree more!

    All sanctions put against the common people of a country are immoral.

    It is time to use the world courts against murdering political leaders. Put them on trail for all to see. (Of course all government leaders of all stripes, do not want that.)

    I am no fan of the legal types – but they do one good thing – they settle things (rightly or wrongly) – after a judgment people can get on with their lives.

    We need a system where local people are sovereign – not government leaders.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @RobinG
  302. geokat62 says:

    Phil, a belated Merry Christmas to you and yours… and a happy, healthy, and productive 2018.

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
  303. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama

    its success would imply gas chambers for me

    isn’t that quaint?

    Sam here suggests that to rein in the serial wars for Israel and the corruption of Western money by banksters and culture by the Hollywood purveyors of anti-culture, would automatically mean = gas chambers for all Jews

    you flatter yourself Sam, there’s just no way you’d be considered significant enough to even raise eyebrows, let alone “gas chambers”

    and not even the victims of Nazi ‘gas chambers’ died in gas chambers, so kudos for effort I suppose.

    but that is the shtick isn’t it?

    want to control immigration into your white nation = wants to gas the Jews

    upset at serial Wall Street swindles = wants to gas the Jews

    don’t want anymore wars for Israel = demand we all start gassing the Jews at once

    there’s no nuance allowed, is there? If you criticize Operation Cast Lead, it makes you Himmler and you want to put all Jews into ovens

    and this is the carefully constructed cartoon paradigm that they’ve set up

    generations of media ownership combined with Frankfort School and a thousand other methods of Soviet type of Orwellian thought control, and they know what they’re doing.

    mention that there’s too many Jews on the Supreme Court, yep, that’s right = you want to gas all the Jews and make soap and lampshades

    it’s all very Pavlovian and BF Skinner type of behaviorism. All intended to control the stupid goyim and get them to go along with their own genocide.

    huh Sam

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  304. geokat62 says:

    … except I can’t since its success would imply gas chambers for me; with happy golosh wearers and pellet droppers doing their thing?

    Welcome back, Sam. I see you haven’t missed a beat… dissembling as per usual.

    As you well know, I wish no harm to come to you and your peeps. Doing my best to forestall the coming reckoning. As always, hoping you would acknowledge this fundamental truth and do your best to join me and others in fighting the good fight.

    Happy New Year.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @jacques sheete
  305. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    Yet the Jewish nation is much more: it is the collected wisdom, knowledge and experience, good and bad, of a people which lived amongst the enlightened as they did amongst the dull, carried with discipline. That is the Talmud.

    You sure can put lipstick on a pig.

    The Israeli Jew nation is apartheid, arms, open air prisons, arms, detention without trail, arms, squatting, arms, one religion state, arms, summery killing, arms, and hidden nukes. It inculcates its children to hate and fear. (They will hate the rest of their lives.) It has attacked all its neighbors, with more to come.

    All you words will not change what you US Jews have wrought. You are coercing America for even more death and destruction.

    Think Peace — Art

  306. @geokat62

    Thanks George – you and the other regulars have made writing for this site a pleasure. I wish you all the best, hope you had a great Christmas and will have a wonderful New Year in which we will all work together to finally extirpate the Lobby!

    • Agree: Z-man
  307. Tammy says:
    @Sam Shama

    I saw some clever-stupid commenter attempting to de-construct Hebrew. The less said of that comment, the better: it is a pointed example of the proverb ‘a little knowledge is a dangerous thing’.

    Yes, watched the stupid video you posted. You need to look up abjad and so forth. Also, root words are mostly 3 constant letters, from which around 150 words are made, without changing the order of 3 letters and without any written vowels. It is probably beyond you.

    However, look at the Uri Anvery statement again:

    “The latest outburst came from an unexpected source. Its bears an unusual name: Tzipi Hotovely. Hers is a Georgian name. Her parents did indeed emigrate (or “make aliyah”) from that former Soviet republic. (Since in the Hebrew script vowels are not written, few Israelis know how to pronounce this name correctly.)

    http://original.antiwar.com/avnery/2017/12/01/netanyahu-not-king-worlds-jews/&#8221;

    Wonder who is Tzipi Hotovely (Hotlips)? O’ Yes, she is Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs since 2015 and the Israelis don’t know how to pronounce her name. Why? Because there are still no written vowels in Hebrew language.

    Now look at Arabic. Old Arabic has no written vowels, but the Quranic (Classical) Arabic not only has written vowels, but very, very extensive grammatical rules. The Modern Arabic for ease of use is written without vowels, but when need be the vowels are added and would be added in a name like Tzipi Hotovely.

    I rest my case. Find any linguistic students in Semitic language and ask his/her views.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  308. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    Belated Happy Christmas & the coming New Year to you, Geo. Yes, I can say that you aren’t motivated as some others who shall remain unnamed. At least humour is in your strong suit, more than I can say for most, melodrama being their chosen form of communication.

  309. Tammy says:
    @Sam Shama

    Well, with formalities out of the way, permit me to make a couple of brief comments.

    Sam, have you wondered why the Original New Testament is neither in Hebrew nor in Aramaic is because the written Semitic languages did not exist at that time. Though, Jesus and his disciples discourse was in Aramaic.

    The very first time the proper written Semitic language was introduced was with the Quran. Till today, there has been no changes made to it.

    The biggest con was to get Christianity to agree that Jesus had accepted Old Testament as True Word of God, which empowered the shitty little insignificant tribe as chosen people.

    Sam do you know when the first complete Torah was written? When it was translated for Christians? Who translated for Christians.

    And, Sam we are just talking about Torah, not the whole TaNaKh (Old Testament). It is really amazing Sam that the God of OT and God of NT has split personality. Maybe, we should go back to Pavlov and Skinner and ask their views on split personality.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  310. Sam Shama says:
    @Tammy

    I am sure you’ve got your dander up about something; what that might be, I am not sure. But it has all the hallmarks of stupidity. One thing you should note, there are scores of Jews [Uri Avnery e.g] willing, and able to engage in criticism of everything Jewish, including the languages spoken by Jews. You’d hardly be able to find anything close to that for Arabic today, for fear of being reduced a head shorter. Today is not the past; when Arab culture was one of inquiry and greatness. It is on the other hand comprised mainly of insecure fools like you trying to prove their superiority. yjb ‘an takun sarsur.

    • Replies: @iffen
  311. yeah says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Trust me, I’d rather be dead than vote Hillary. But I am way too disappointed in Trump. Yes, I know he is surrounded by enemies on all sides – and he had my sympathy and understanding on that account – but what reason does he have to fill his administration with the most dim-witted and the most odious of Neocons? Lack of competency? Lack of integrity?? Maybe the pre-election talk was just that – talk. Was it then just to fool the people?

    Some of his foreign policy thrusts have me speechless. Does America need the whole world against it?

    Me thinks stuff is going on that we never thought possible, so I trust no one.

    • Agree: Z-man
  312. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    I would’ve wished them jolly good luck and all that, except I can’t since its success would imply gas chambers for me

    Oh my’ – our resident Jews are being Jews — one Jew calls us “dick heads” – the next one, says we want to gas him.

    I can assure both that their cheep words and false guilt trips, just wash over. They are the ones thinking murder.

    We have other things on our mind like “ostracize.”

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  313. @Tammy

    Tammy to me: “I am sorry I pissed you off. I am an Arab and my language is not English, therefore it is little hard for me to write properly. It was Obama who called Netanyahu chickenshit. So…”

    Tammy,

    First off, I was not pissed off by your comment. Only a exasperated with the low specific gravity of the logic.

    Did not know that “ChickenHawk” Nobel Peace prize winner POT(Z)US Obama dared to call the warmongering P.M. Netanyahu “chickenshit.” Moral at play here: Demons know other demons’ character traits.

    For me and writing as a Pennsylvania “coal cracker,” your name smacks of singer- Tammy Wynette and I had no idea you are more comfortable writing (R. to L.) Arabic.

    Finally, on your conclusion on the Hebrew language not being a language, as a teen during mid-1960′s, I cleaned exterior windows at Schwartz’s Men’s Clothing store.

    At times when I left smudges / streaks on the showroom window, co-owner Mel used to curse me in a strange & mean language. Such ream-jobs bothered me but the other co-owner, Alan, would console and tell me, “Ignore Melvin, he’s full of YiddishShit.”

    Thanks, Tammy! Given some expendable time, try internet search for how (decades long) CIA/Mossad operations are now making progress with destabilizing the Islamic Republic of Iran.

    • Replies: @Tammy
  314. RobinG says:
    @Art

    Yes, put them on the trail to summery and wintery executions. (Sorry, Art, you’re irresistible.) ;)
    Sanctions are acts of war, and they are certainly war criminals.

    Happy New Year to you and Moshe!

  315. @Rurik

    and
    @ Art

    It takes a couple thousand years for a lump of coal to become a diamond (as I told SWMBO, ‘the diamond for your ring is in process’).

    This gem –

    In a system of government Of, By, and For the People, we are all implicated, for good and for ill, in the acts of our government. “If I remain silent I have sinned.”

    still needs refining.

    However, it did not imply “collective punishment.”

    Rather, and I insist on this — citizenship has obligations, it cannot be passive.

    Yes indeed American citizens are misinformed and terribly propagandized.
    As Chuck said, and to which I think I was responding:

    “Hellish caveat here is that the evil done by them is off-limits to citizen’s openly saying so.”

    True enough. That’s a reality of our time and, as Priss pointed out elsewhere, citing Carl Schmitt, a characteristic of all entities that are able to combine power with force (enforcement capabilities).

    Further, as several comments have pondered, “Who is the name-brand leader that counters ZUSA?”

    We’re looking about for a Jesus to mount the cross so that we don’t have to.
    (In my parents’ day, the operative statement was, “Let George do it.” :)

  316. geokat62 says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    In my parents’ day, the operative statement was, “Let George do it.”

    As I’ve previously indicated, I’m ready, willing and able… just waiting for the signal.

  317. @SolontoCroesus

    SolontoCroesus: “We’re looking about for a Jesus to mount the cross so that we don’t have to.”

    Hi S2C,

    I am no Reinhold Niebuhr-level theologian, but regarding your sentence above, Jesus was crucified, and upon death taken down from the Cross, and resurrected.

    Maybe other believers think otherwise, but I can not see Jesus as being required to undergo a 2nd round of mockery, torture, and capital punishment sponsored by the Tribe and the Roman Superpower. He’s beyond — “been there done that.”

    (Zigh) Looks to me that it’s The Lobby’s Protocol Monopoly Hour, and subsequently, it’s “Defiant Dumb Goyim Go Directly To The Cross” time.

    Dunno, S2C. Doing torture was cool for the W. Bush era Neocon nuts, but I do not feel they’d nail, let’s say an Eric Snowden, to a “build-it-yourself” cross. What do you think?

    Hm… although widely acknowledged as uncivilized, how about Dumb Goyim Extremist execution by sarin gas? (Note: Maven Shama has fetish for death-by-gassing)

    (Zigh) It’s bottom of the 9th and Mad Dog’s steppin’ to the Levant plate.

    As for low level Zio-Thought Criminal chumps like me for example, what to do? Such “dead enders” can get Abu Ghraib therapy. Strip naked and rehab them by forced (24/7) watching of reruns of Netanyahu’s speech to Congress?

    Good night S2C and good luck 2018! (Zigh)

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  318. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    We have had a few comments on Jewish civilization and its contributions and I mentioned a couple of features that I welcome and admire. However, to find out that it was all done without language is just unbelievable and makes it awe inspiring with no competition in sight.

  319. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    What on Earth are you chaps conjuring up? It all sounds so ominous and riveting. Until one reads old Woodchuck’s #325, that is. Hahaaaaaaa, he clearly sounds quite mad !!!! Art into these summery and chilly plans as well?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  320. Sam Shama says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    As for low level Zio-Thought Criminal chumps like me for example, what to do? Such “dead enders” can get Abu Ghraib therapy. Strip naked and rehab them by forced (24/7) watching of reruns of Netanyahu’s speech to Congress?

    I say Woody you sound quite an interesting man. If I should visit Scranton – can’t possibly think of any earthly reason to do so, but still – talking to you about your demons over a cold one would certainly be worth a thought. I truly am intrigued. Do you really feel you are trapped in this world of your description? I suppose the same applies to all of you gents [with the exception of Robin] but I do find each one of you so fascinating, so oddly eccentric. Do you really “Zigh” all the time?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  321. Sam Shama says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    [We’re looking about for a Jesus to mount the cross so that we don’t have to.]

    Must you always look to a Jew to solve your problems? Did Geo convert?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @geokat62
  322. @ChuckOrloski

    Can anyone here at U.R. mention one person (domiciled in ZUSA) & who is a recognizable “brand name” in dedicated resistance to Zionist Jew political power?

    No.

    One big reason is the type has a strange tendency to have untimely accidents, like Larry P. Mac Donald, or JFK even, and a host of others.

    The ones who don’t get snuffed get silenced in other ways, ignored, smeared, sidelined, undermined or displaced like Cynthia McKinney.

    In fact, it’s too big a job for any Messiah. Look how even JC’s message was corrupted right from the start.

    The dean of Washington newspapermen at that time and founder of the National Press Club, Mr. George Stimpson, when asked in later years to comment on the seriousness and magnitude of the charges being made by McFadden, he replied, “It was incredible. This town went into a state of shock. We couldn’t believe what we were hearing. Of course, they said right away that he had lost his mind.” “Do you think he had?”, Stimpson was asked. “Oh, no,” came the reply. “But it was too much, too much for one man to do”.

    -A tribute to Congressman Louis Thomas McFadden

    http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/mcfadden.htm#.Vuu05-IrKM8

    The forces of evil never rest, never quit plotting and have unlimited funds and no inhibitions. We, dumb goyim and little Jews alike, are as defenseless as fruit trees just ripe for the pickin’.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    , @Z-man
  323. Sam Shama says:
    @Art

    We have other things on our mind like “ostracize.”

    How? Hold your breath and turn your head away? That would be crewel and unusual punishment.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Art
  324. @MEexpert

    I was a huge Ron Paul supporter a couple of decades ago, and still like the guy, but he’s a lightweight.

    Very light.

    That’s probably why he still walks amongst us! ;)

  325. @Rurik

    Rurik, you do know, don’t you, that all you say, though truer than true, will be charged to “envy,” don’t you?

    It shouldn’t take too long.

    ;)

  326. @geokat62

    As you well know, I wish no harm to come to you and your peeps. Doing my best to forestall the coming reckoning. As always, hoping you would acknowledge this fundamental truth and do your best to join me and others in fighting the good fight.

    “Forgive them for they know not what they do.”

    The type believes, for whatever reason, that the big boys care about them, when in fact, they are at one another’s throats, even.

    Who knew that playing the dupe held so much smugogenic satisfaction?

  327. @Tammy

    Sam, have you wondered why the Original New Testament is neither in Hebrew nor in Aramaic is because the written Semitic languages did not exist at that time.

    Most interesting. Thanks!

    • Replies: @Tammy
  328. Tammy says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Greetings… And Happy New Year

    ChuckOrloski “For me and writing as a Pennsylvania “coal cracker,” your name smacks of singer- Tammy Wynette and I had no idea you are more comfortable writing (R. to L.) Arabic.”

    Haha, the deplorable Tammy. Though I wouldn’t classify Greg Allman as blues singer, I would rather classify the Allman Brothers as Southern Rock. It is though jamming music, and it is a toss between Whipping Post and Freebird (Pronounced ‘Lĕh-’nérd ‘Skin-’nérd).

    Americans are one of the best people in the world, but they have divided themselves into labels and thus destroying themselves with petty fights.

    ChuckOrloski “Thanks, Tammy! Given some expendable time, try internet search for how (decades long) CIA/Mossad operations are now making progress with destabilizing the Islamic Republic of Iran.”

    I am a stone throw away from Iran and a Shia Muslim. The very first thing the POTUS Obama did was to apologize for Mosaddegh affair. As POTUS Trump keeps on saying that these days most news is fake news, so I wouldn’t worry about destabilizing Iran.

    Who would have thunk it in 2001, that in 2017 Iran would be at the doorsteps of Israel with a land corridor all the way to Iran. The world was with USA after 9/11, but unfortunately the POTUS decided “revenge” rather than solving the Middle East problem. In 1967 USA was embroiled in Vietnam and was the weakest so it couldn’t do anything about USS Liberty. Revenge is nothing but destruction for everyone involved including the innocent ants when two elephants fight. For this reason the Wise Rabbi Jesus said to turn the other cheek.

    God have Mercy on all His children….

  329. Tammy says:
    @jacques sheete

    Greetings JS

    jacques sheete “Most interesting. Thanks!”

    When Bart D. Ehrman wrote his thesis, “Misquoting Jesus”, he researched everything regarding Greek language, the status of printing, the ink, the paper and what not. So, at one of his Q&A, he was asked by an Arab, why didn’t he considered Aramaic language? He poo poo and answered the NT was in Greek so no need to consider Aramaic. He knew the Arab had a dug a hole for him.

    But really think about it, Jesus discourse with his displaces was in Aramaic and not Koine Greek. The NT went through transliteration and not even translation at inception. There was no written Torah and/or TaNaKh (Old Testament) at that time.

    Talmud is not the problem, we all know that the problem rests with Torah and TaNaKh (Old Testament) with today almost 3 billion Christians accepting it True Word of God, and making the shitty little insignificant tribe as “God Chosen People”. If today, Christianity will do away with the OT, it will shake the very foundation of their religion, though they very well know that God of OT and God of NT has split personality.

    It is like Talha, who is a Sunni from Pakistan who believes in Six Hearsay Books written 250 years after the demise of Prophet Mohammad (saws). Talha will with hook and crook will defend these Six Hearsay Books that the Prophet married a six years old child at age 53, and he consummated the marriage with her when she was nine and he was 56. Though, all the existing evidence is against it, but to put a doubt on these Six Hearsay Books, will shake very the foundation of the Sunni religion.

    Sorry, I always write with a passion…..

    Happy New Year….

    • Replies: @RobinG
  330. @Sam Shama

    Must you always look to a Jew to solve your problems?

    Clever, Sam.

    I just got back from Siesta Key, opposite side of the state.
    Your twist on the Jesus metaphor likewise is in opposition to what was intended. But you know that.

    My emphasis was on the reality that Jews will crucify — literally or figuratively, financially or in other ways — anyone who calls their evil acts to account, just as Jews crucified Jesus– and stoned Stephen to death, too; let’s not forget that incident.
    If Jews did that to one of their own, non-Jews should be prepared for the same treatment.

  331. @NoseytheDuke

    Wasn’t McFadden poisoned?

    I’ve read a lot of what he said, and it makes a lot of sense, but am not sure about how he died. In my mind, it’s certainly possible and even likely, but you know how we kunspiracy theerists are!

    In any case, I don’t think he was subjected to a Forrestal type defenestration. ;)

    I haven’t had time to ascertain how Thorkelson died, either. It’s too bad, but the closest we dumb goyim and useless little Jews have to men of that type are Ron Paul and Bro Nat, but he’s in no position of power and not well known. David Duke about whom I know little has been smeared into virtual isolation too. There are precious few others, and they are marginalized, ignored and smeared into oblivion as you know. Without a doubt a lot of them are blackmailed into silence, but as you know, that type of thinking itself is the product of a low IQ and a defective personality. ;) ;)

    We’re dumb and crazy. We’re all envious, too, you know! In fact, without envy, I myself would be even more insignificant than I am, if that would even be possible. ;)

  332. @NoseytheDuke

    Hey NtD, doesn’t it strike one as interesting that those who speak against power have a peculiar tendency to get mocked, tortured, and finally humiliated and tacked to a chunk of wood before their time in various ways?

    Or am I just an envious nutball?

    Must be time fer me medz and tinfoil hat!!!

    (They don’t even spare their own , it seems!)

  333. @jacques sheete

    I know very little about DNA testing other than it’s apparently been hi-jacked and politicized by the usual suspects. My suspicions is that when it comes to test results (listing percentages of inherited genes) the legitimate term, Semitic (which like Caucasian and Oriental would be an inherited gene) was replaced by the illegitimate term Jew. And for obvious reasons since people, as a rule, tend to feel kindly toward their own kith and kin.

    Ancestry.com uses the following as inherited genes;

    Iberian
    Great Britain
    Italy/Greece
    Ireland
    Europe East
    Europe West
    Scandinavia
    Finland/Northwest Russia
    European Jewish

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/New-law-says-genetic-test-valid-for-determining-Jewish-status-in-some-cases-506584

    https://forward.com/opinion/382967/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-khazars-heres-the-proof/

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  334. geokat62 says:
    @Tammy

    Hi, Tammy.

    A couple of questions:

    The world was with USA after 9/11, but unfortunately the POTUS decided “revenge” rather than solving the Middle East problem.

    The POTUS decided?

    In 1967 USA was embroiled in Vietnam and was the weakest so it couldn’t do anything about USS Liberty.

    Couldn’t do anything?

    • Replies: @Tammy
  335. @iffen

    iffen wrote:

    We have had a few comments on Jewish civilization and its contributions and I mentioned a couple of features that I welcome and admire.

    Gazan dies after border clash with Israel forces

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/gazan-dies-border-clash-israel-forces-081413370.html

    Dec 31 2017

    Gaza City (Palestinian Territories) (AFP) – A Gazan died on Saturday after being wounded by Israeli fire during a protest on the border over US recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, a Palestinian health official said.

    Jamal Muslih, 20, of Al-Bureij refugee camp in central Gaza, had been seriously wounded by live fire on Friday, health ministry spokesman Ashraf al-Qudra said.

    He was buried on Saturday afternoon.

    Muslih’s death brings to 13 the number of Palestinians killed since US President Donald Trump announced on December 6 that he would recognise Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and move the US embassy there from Tel Aviv.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @iffen
  336. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    How? Hold your breath and turn your head away? That would be crewel and unusual punishment.

    Now, now, Sam. How many times must I remind you that mocking The Dumb Goyim is impolite? People might get the wrong idea and think you subscribe to supremacist views… er something.

  337. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    Did Geo convert?

    I was going to respond thusly:

    Last time I checked, all the protective gear was still there.

    but then I thought the better of it.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  338. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    What on Earth are you chaps conjuring up? It all sounds so ominous and riveting.

    Psst… don’t tell anyone, but we’re conspiring to blow up the King David Hotel. We’re all part of a group called the Sperm Gang. You have to be a member of the right gender to join, though.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  339. @Z-man

    ” If true thanks for your service”

    No I am just making it all up for the sake of impressing total strangers on the net.

    My sister, after my mother passed, found my airborne wings in her, my moms belongings, as I had no clue as to where they ended up.

    And as far as my musical credentials, well somebody has to do it, or do you think that all of the Jazz players world-wide are simply conjured up ghosts.

    AJM

  340. @Tammy

    ” Though I wouldn’t classify Greg Allman as a blues singer”

    So now you have been appointed as the authority in charge of deciding who is a bonafide blues singer, and who is not.

    Myself, as an active Jazz/Blues ( every competent Jazz player is automatically a “Blues” player) player/vocalist for the last five-plus decades , am stating that Greg Allman was most definitely a “bonafide” blues singer.

    I slept with Jimmy Reed records under my pillow as a fifteen year old in Detroit, a city throbbing with Jazz/blues 24/7 in the fifties, and I know wtf I am talking about as far as Jazz/Blues is concerned.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro jazz musician/vocalist.

    • Replies: @Tammy
  341. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    except I can’t since its success would imply gas chambers for me

    Sam the Gas Bag,

    No wonder you are so nasty.

    You have gas on the brain.

    You are surrounded by gas all the time (your own)?

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. You might change your diet – Pork’n Beans makes you mellow.

    • LOL: SolontoCroesus
  342. @Sam Shama

    The Maven Shama to me: “I say Woody you sound quite an interesting man. If I should visit Scranton – can’t possibly think of any earthly reason to do so, but still – talking to you about your demons over a cold one would certainly be worth a thought. I truly am intrigued. Do you really feel you are trapped in this world of your description?”

    Hi Maven,

    Given a decision to visit me in Scranton, a word of advice. The city has an air quality ordinance and upon arrival, please remember to use “Dial” deodorant.

    My “demons” are under internal-security surveillance. (Zigh) Actually, it is Hasbara Cowboy ranchers (like you) who’s intimate Zio-demons circled and have “trapped.”

    At any rate, Maven, you would adore the City of Scranton’s addiction to debt!

    Trying to avoid debt-driven descent into “receivership,” Scranton leadership sold assets, for one example, a $195 million sale of it’s sewer system to Pennsylvania American Water. (Zigh) Residents and The Times-Tribune editors are pissed about how the city’s highfalootin’ Jewish lawyer racked up incredible hours and issued a subsequent disturbing invoice for his legal “services.”

    One more good-Krugman debt “tale from the gilded crypt,” Maven?

    After years of borrowing to balance budgets, the Scranton School District is expected to reach $40 million at 2017 end. The S.S.D.’s deficit is Pennsylvania’s largest!

    (Zigh) Had Smithsonian Institute plans to add a museum-wing dedicated to Milton Friedman, Chicago School of (debt) Economics, my hometown would serve as a “Fear and Loathing” model Amerikan city.

    Selah Debt Ale (Ail), a “cold one” to share?

  343. Art says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Muslih’s death brings to 13 the number of Palestinians killed since US President Donald Trump announced on December 6 that he would recognise Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and move the US embassy there from Tel Aviv.

    S2C,

    What’s the problem – why even mention it – Trump/Netanyahu/Kushner didn’t get any Jews killed? (Not that they would really mind – for Greater Israel, what’s a dead Little Jew now and then.)

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Gasme Sam says -”only 13″ ^&%^%$#@%^&!

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  344. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    Last time I checked, all the protective gear was still there.

    but then I thought the better of it.

    It has a chequered history, that feature of Hebrews, particularly around 1st Century BC when many Jews underwent επισπασμοσ. When in Athens etc…….

    http://www.cirp.org/library/restoration/hall1/

    • Replies: @geokat62
  345. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Thanks, I did forget to mention an admirable humanitarian restraint by Israel with regard to adversaries who have little political ideology or plans beyond “get dem Jews.”

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  346. Sam Shama says:
    @Art

    Now that is a cheep shot, Art. I feel extra-sized

    • Replies: @Art
  347. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    Art: We have other things on our mind like “ostracize.”

    How? Hold your breath and turn your head away? That would be crewel and unusual punishment.

    Gasme Sam,

    First ???? – what?

    Perhaps you Jews do have a real “gas” problem – perhaps your kosher diet causes people to shy away from you’ll?

    Just thinking!

    Peace — Art

  348. Z-man says:
    @jacques sheete

    The ones who don’t get snuffed get silenced in other ways, ignored, smeared, sidelined, undermined or displaced

    Exactly, one has to only look at Pat Buchanan as an example. He has persevered but his anti Zionist writings and discussions have greatly diminished. Being the butt of jokes by Jew comedians (‘his uncle died in WWII, he fell out of a guard tower in Auschwitz’) and attacks from his fellow ‘press mates’ can take a toll, imho.

  349. Tammy says:
    @geokat62

    Greetings Geo

    geokat62 “The POTUS decided?”

    Should have been careful and said the Deep State. Anyhow, here one for the Decider. Enjoy!

    geokat62 “Couldn’t do anything?”

    Again should have been careful, I guess LBJ was so embroiled in Vietnam, that he decided not to run for the second term.

    Happy New Year!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  350. @Carroll Price

    I know very little about DNA testing other than it’s apparently been hi-jacked and politicized by the usual suspects.

    That’s my position as well, so I usually question whatever’s said about it. I suspect it’s about as scientifically valid at this point as Freud’s nutball theories. Pop science at best, I bet.

  351. @geokat62

    Hey geo, did the Mave, aka 204 (!!!) really write this?:

    What on Earth are you chaps conjuring up? It all sounds so ominous and riveting.

    I guess “The” holocaust shtick is only for the “Chosen.”

    What a gas; who’da guessed?

  352. Tammy says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Greetings Authenticjazzman

    Authenticjazzman “Myself, as an active Jazz/Blues ( every competent Jazz player is automatically a “Blues” player) player/vocalist for the last five-plus decades , am stating that Greg Allman was most definitely a “bonafide” blues singer.”

    Sometime you like to sit with you and listen to your blues and share a cold one, I mean a cold glass of water.

    Happy New Year!

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  353. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    When in Athens etc…….

    Who knew? I guess you and your peeps must be delighted that gymnasia no longer play such an important role in modern-day societies?

  354. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    Now that is a cheep shot, Art.

    Yes – I agree – sorry!

    You were the resident member of your tribe and thus suffered my justifiable contempt – I apologize.

    You, as a hard core Jew, cannot fathom our distain for you attitude concerning non-Jew life.

    Art

  355. @ChuckOrloski

    After years of borrowing to balance budgets, the Scranton School District is expected to reach $40 million at 2017 end. The S.S.D.’s deficit is Pennsylvania’s largest!

    Debt, the gift that keeps on giving. Unless yer the schmuck paying.

    I wonder how many folks are aware of the fact that after WW2 any national debts payable to Germany from a country such as Bulgaria, were now payable to the conquerors’ banks instead of Germany’s? What a deal, huh?

    I wonder if a state that has so much public debt that all private capital is vacuumed up is”good” and if so, from whose point of view?

    How many realize that , after the close of the hostilities, debt was used to punish “friends”, such as Italy, which despite being a faithful ally, recognized that it was getting screwed by the bankers’ reps?

    The withdrawal of the Italian delegates [from the Versailles “Peace Conference”] was construed as an act of insubordination, and punished as such.

    1 For Italy is more dependent on her allies than ever, owing to the sacrifices which she offered up during the war, and she was made to feel her dependence painfully. The military assistance which they had received from her was fraught with financial and economic consequences which have not yet been realized by the unfortunate people who must endure them. Italy at the close of hostilities was burdened with a foreign debt [which was crippling her…]

    -Dillon, THE INSIDE STORY OF THE PEACE CONFERENCE,(1920) p30 6

    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/The_Inside_Story_Of_The_Peace_Conference-Dr-EJ_Dillon-1920-526pgs-POL.pdf

    Yeah, debt is good. Especially when countries go into debt to fight on your side!

  356. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    However, to find out that it was all done without language is just unbelievable and makes it awe inspiring with no competition in sight.

    Haha. Yes. We Jews have always communicated through sign language and telepathy. I suppose Iffen, certain people are always compelled to spin the most implausible stories for language, history and the cultural contributions of others they do not like. It’s common enough behaviour the world over, where Italians vs Germans, Greeks vs Turks, Chinese vs Vietnamese, Japanese vs Chinese, Lebanese Vs Palestinians, Indians vs Pakistanis, etc, all belittle mutual contributions.

    About Hebrew the language, both ancient and as used today, the Qumran scrolls set standards not up for debate:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls

    In the larger sense, the Dead Sea Scrolls include manuscripts from additional Judaean Desert sites, dated as early as the 8th century BCE and as late as the 11th century CE.[1]
    The texts have great historical, religious, and linguistic significance because they include the second-oldest known surviving manuscripts of works later included in the Hebrew Bible canon, along with deuterocanonical and extra-biblical manuscripts which preserve evidence of the diversity of religious thought in late Second Temple Judaism. (Biblical texts older than the Dead Sea Scrolls have been discovered only in two silver scroll-shaped amulets containing portions of the Priestly Blessing from the Book of Numbers, excavated in Jerusalem at Ketef Hinnom and dated c. 600 BCE. The third-oldest surviving known piece of the Torah (the En-Gedi Scroll) consists of a portion of Leviticus found in the Ein Gedi synagogue, burnt in the 6th century CE and analyzed in 2015. Research has dated it palaeographically to the 1st or 2nd century CE, and using the C14 method to sometime between the 2nd and 4th centuries CE.[7])

    Most of the texts use Hebrew, with some written in Aramaic (for example the Son of God text; in different regional dialects, including Nabataean), and a few in Greek.[8] Discoveries from the Judaean Desert add Latin (from Masada) and Arabic (from Khirbet al-Mird) texts.[9] Most of the texts are written on parchment, some on papyrus, and one on copper.[10]

    Re-watching Simon Schama’s “The Story of the Jews” on PBS. A truly brilliant production. Give it a whirl if you find the time.

    http://www.pbs.org/wnet/story-jews/

    Best

    • Replies: @Tammy
    , @Art
  357. @ChuckOrloski

    Hey Chuck…Debt can buy ya “freedom!”

    ‘ The French Minister of Foreign Affairs, M. Pichon, undertook to recognize in principle the independence of Esthonia, provided that Esthonia would take over her part of the [previously repudiated] Russian debt .

    -Dillon, THE INSIDE STORY OF THE PEACE CONFERENCE,(1920) p. 187

    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/The_Inside_Story_Of_The_Peace_Conference-Dr-EJ_Dillon-1920-526pgs-POL.pdf

    Debt slavery frees ya. Whooda guessed?

    Everybody wins; better’n the lottery!

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  358. Tammy says:
    @Sam Shama

    Most of the texts use Hebrew, with some written in Aramaic (for example the Son of God text; in different regional dialects, including Nabataean), and a few in Greek.[8] Discoveries from the Judaean Desert add Latin (from Masada) and Arabic (from Khirbet al-Mird) texts.[9] Most of the texts are written on parchment, some on papyrus, and one on copper.[10]

    Sam, don’t kid yourself. No one claimed that partial written scrolls didn’t exist here and there. However, the Semitic language was not fully developed and the ones who scribbled it could only read it back from memory.

    You will do yourself a favor, if you read “Misquoting Jesus” by Bart D. Ehrman. Today, you get a bound printed Bible or Quran which hardly weighs very much and in every home. In those days, everything had to be scrolled as you said, “on parchment, some on papyrus, and one on copper”. The inscribing errors were massive transforming from one scroll to another, and the errors kept not only aggregating but continuing too. Imagine proofing the scrolls. The writing material was almost non-existence and hardly many could read/write.

    You are smart enough the catch the drift….. There were no printing presses……

    Only Classical Arabic had vowels and proper grammar.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    , @Sam Shama
  359. @jacques sheete

    Jacques Sheete, memorably: “Debt slavery frees ya. Whooda guessed?
    Everybody wins; better’n the lottery!”

    Hi Jacques,

    Given the title of this important article by Phil Giraldi, I sense you can write a timely article perhaps titled, “National Insecurity and Searching For Exit Strategy From Deep Zionist-Driven Debt.”

    A few months ago, a Scranton-based attorney, Edwin Abrahamsen, hit the usury “lottery” by billing the “Electric City” > $3 million for his legal help on the “Hail Mary” sale of Scranton Sewer Authority to Pennsylvania American Water.

    Got pretty wild when a ballsy Scranton Councilman went public and denounced Abrahamsen’s invoice and demanded the billing record, including hours expended on specific legal tasks.

    Afterward, Edwin Abrahamsen went ape shit and started a defamation law suit against the truth telling Scranton Councilman. After a week or so of scrabbing and Abrahamsen’s getting nailed by Scranton Times-Tribune, Attorney Abrahamsen apparently dropped his lawsuit, and I for one suspect — “Whooda guessed?” — he’s waiting for invoice payment.

    (Zigh) This brief sewage plant sale history is Par-for-the-Krugman/Shama-Good Debt Intercourse Strategy, eh, J.S.?

    To All present here @ U.R. who may either struggle to exist or perhaps misgovern in a debt stricken ZUS city, below is Edwin Abrahamsen’s web site which advertises a coterie of available “Superlawyers” who specialize in (“Whooda guessed?”) personal injury.

    http://www.acalawyer.com/

    Thanks, Jacques. Eh hem… “Where auld the debt be forgotten,” and happy New Year?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  360. @Tammy

    I guess LBJ was so embroiled in Vietnam, that he decided not to run for the second term.

    I wonder what role the TFX scandal played in that decision.

    General Dynamics was the recipient of a bailout (corporate welfare) in the form of a questionable military contract and involvement in the TFX scandal, inter alia.

    Interfering in both the investigations of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy and the terror attacks of 9-11, we find agents of Henry Crown and Company, a Zionist family of war profiteers (General Dynamics) from Chicago.

    ZIONIST MOBSTER Henry Crown of Chicago made a fortune as a procurement agent for the U.S. Army during World War II and went on to take over General Dynamics in 1959. He was also deeply involved in organized crime and smuggling weapons to Israel in violation of U.S. law.

    …Crown…controlled the nearly bankrupt General Dynamics (of Fort Worth, Texas) at the time of the JFK assassination. Henry Crown’s personal lawyer, Albert E. Jenner, Jr., served on the Warren Commission…

    http://www.bollyn.com/jfk-and-9-11-henry-crown-and-the-cover-ups-of-our-time-2/

  361. @ChuckOrloski

    …sale of Scranton Sewer Authority to Pennsylvania American Water.

    I’ll think about having a “Happy New year” if you tell me that Pennsylvania American Water is owned by some dumb goyim nuns.

    “Where auld the debt be forgotten!” Never, in a million years! We, in fact, can pay unredeemable debt by guess what??? Why taking out a loan to pay it!

    Kool , hunh?

    I think I’ll get me some debt this year so I can buy me some freedom. My GDP sez I’m good for it!

  362. @Tammy

    Tammy to Maven Shama: “You are smart enough the catch the drift….. There were no printing.”

    Hi Tammy,

    Am impressed with the language battle brought upon Sam Shama.

    However smart & articulate is the Maven Sham, he is cunningly skilled at Hasbara deception.

    Just watch now how he will either continue to dig himself deeper into the Qumran cave hole, or tactfully retreat by changing the subject to “sign language” and PBS show, “The Story of the Jews” by Simon Schama.

    Seems you are a rookie in dealing with the Maven, eh Tammy?

    If so, please understand how Maven’s reason-faculty is constipated by prolix-Hasbara loyalties, and one ought best lower their mental expectations of him… similar to how the freak “iffen” does it.

    Thanks Tammy for all conveyed insights!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Tammy
  363. RobinG says:
    @Tammy

    Isn’t the New Testament also a Hearsay Book, written 100 years after Jesus’ death? And before that edited, embellished, super-natural-sized and rebranded by Paul to make Issa into a god that he never claimed to be? [Brava for your fearlessness in this den!]

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Art
    , @Tammy
    , @Tammy
  364. @iffen

    dang
    just when I gave the last IDIOT cookie to an early New Years Eve reveler.

    • Replies: @iffen
  365. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    Gasme Sam,

    You are the maven of debt hereabouts – the old Hebrews forgave debt every 7 years – the US government and commercial debt would go to zero every 7 years – a good thing.

    If it was wise then for the Hebrews – why not now for the Western world?

    Any ideas?

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. That is if you can stop worrying for 5 minutes, about everyone gassing you to death.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  366. Sam Shama says:
    @Tammy

    I really don’t know what you are going on about, making dismissive statements about “partial scrolls did exist here or there” etc. Of course, they are only partial at this point in time: there weren’t any technologies to preserve them for millennia. Do you mean to say they were deliberately created in fragments? The dead sea scrolls number close to 1000 and the Hebrew in them can be read by any reader of Hebrew today. That doesn’t subtract from the fact that – as in other religious traditions from antiquity such as the Indus Vedas – oral recounting through memorisations was a prominent method employed as well. You should familiarise yourself with the work done by prof Gershon Galil at the University of Haifa. His discoveries of Judaen writings in Hebrew from the period of King David date the first textual rendering of the Bible around 10th century BCE.

    [As far as the oldest surviving complete Torah in scroll form, I believe - confirmed through carbon dating - is about 800 years old.]

    • Replies: @Tammy
    , @Tammy
  367. Sam Shama says:
    @Art

    Hahahaa. Art you do crack me up [gasme to death ....].

    Yes, I believe debt forgiveness is crucial. If you think about it [and we can speak about this in greater detail later since I have to run for a New Year's thing] the notion of a ‘clean slate’ after 7 years have passed from the date of formal personal bankruptcy is a direct corollary of Hebrew traditions. I have said this often, I believe student debt should not exist. Whatever remains today should be taken off the balance sheets of students and added to the public balance sheet. Public debt itself, certainly a good portion of it, gets defeased through inflation. That is by design and is a key insight. The chatterboxes making noise here do not understand the first thing about capital structure.

  368. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @iffen

    “Jewish civilization and its contributions”
    — Like this ongoing “contribution” of “Jewish civilization?” – “Building the Museum of Tolerance over the Mamilla Cemetery in Jerusalem” https://richardedmondson.net/2017/04/03/erasing-palestinian-identity-with-a-museum-of-tolerance/comment-page-1/
    “This ancient cemetery held thousands of human remains of prominent Muslim leaders and influential Palestinian figures. After several battles to halt the excavations and stop the construction of the museum, the Israeli High Court ruled in 2008 that the construction of the museum was lawful. The center for Constitutional Rights in New York filed a petition with the United Nations on behalf of Palestinian Jerusalemite families who have ancestors buried in Mamilla, requesting that the cemetery be preserved and declared a protected heritage site. This has not stopped the Israeli government and the Israeli Antiquities Authority (IAA) from bulldozing more graves, causing an uproar and disputes, including physical clashes between the Israeli police and officials from al-Aqsa Association for Endowment and Heritage, who tried to preserve what was left of the cemetery. Today, between the Museum of Tolerance Jerusalem and other projects intended for other parts of the cemetery–including apartment complexes, a commercial mall, a hotel, nightclubs, and pubs–the cemetery and its gravestones have almost vanished. Meanwhile, the museum is scheduled to be finished in spring of 2018, to coincide with the seventieth anniversary celebration of Israel’s Independence Day.”
    — Guess that will be a celebration of Israel’s independence from western civilization and from the basics of human dignity.

  369. @ChuckOrloski

    …prolix-Hasbara…

    There is nothing “pro” about it despite the 204 IQ. Though often excruciatingly verbose, it’s better described as tuschlix rhetoric.

    …by changing the subject to “sign language” and PBS show…

    The Mave wants us to admire his erudition, but he rarely rises above the level of mass media. We were told to study Krugman in Newsweek, now we’re directed to watch a “show” at PBS???

    P. B. S. ????

    Did he really wrote that? Tell me it ain’t so! Even dumb goyim tune that garbage out.

    PBS, hunh?

    Do I laugh or cry?

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  370. @RobinG

    … edited, embellished, super-natural-sized and rebranded by Paul …

    Not to mention translated from one langauge to another by people of varying motives, skill levels and moral principles, if any.

    Still there’s quite a bit of good stuff therein, especially pertaining to rich guys, various “authorities,” liars, frauds, charlatans, murderers, and the sins of the former “Chosen.”

    Example:

    Isaiah 9 16 —-For the leaders of the people cause them to err: and they that are led by them are devoured. —-

    Another: (The list is extensive.)

    Isaiah 28
    14 Therefore hear the word of the LORD, you scoffers,
    who rule this people in Jerusalem!
    15 Because you have said, “We have made a covenant with death,
    and with Sheol we have an agreement,
    when the overwhelming whip passes through
    it will not come to us,
    for we have made lies our refuge,
    and in falsehood we have taken shelter”;

  371. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    idiot cookie?

    Please S2C, don’t humiliate yourself like this, copy and paste something, anything!

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  372. @jacques sheete

    J.S. on Maven Shama’s comment-writing style: “There is nothing “pro” about it despite the 204 IQ.”

    Hi Jacques,

    Above, I still endorse the “prolixity” label! Also, it’s Orwellian-comical when the Maven and FB indulge foreign languages here.

    So a 204 IQ, eh? Hm.

    One should compare the test results with his Hasbara blabber.

    Mercifully, maybe the IQ test administrator gave the Maven 75 bonus points for simply managing to get his swollen head through the facility door?

    Happy Real Jews New Year to All!

  373. Art says:
    @RobinG

    Isn’t the New Testament also a Hearsay Book, written 100 years after Jesus’ death? And before that edited, embellished, super-natural-sized and rebranded by Paul to make Issa into a god that he never claimed to be?

    “written 100 years after Jesus’ death? And before that edited, embellished, super-natural-sized and rebranded by Paul”

    Christianity is the New Testament as it is written – it may or may not be what actually happened. Even if it is all a false narrative – it is what it is – its words form Christian thought.

    Religion is an intellectual thing – the words in the New Testament form the Christian religion and the Christian philosophy. There is no escaping this.

    Priests and preachers chose what words to follow. Some chose to emphasize the future building aspects Christianity – others the negative Jew side. Such is human life.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Tammy
  374. geokat62 says:
    @Rurik

    this guy has been relentless Brother Chuck

    Hey, Rurik. Another man that has been relentless in the battle against The Lobby is Prof. Kevin MacDonald. He has done tremendous work demonstrating how The Lobby has been actively pursuing its interests at The Dumb Goyim’s expense. I think his Culture of Critique should be mandatory ready for every goy. This should be the new bible for those of us who are keen to prevent the flame of Western civilization from being snuffed out. Rather than attacking his scholarship, The Lobby has done the predictable and attacked him for being… you guessed it, an antisemite.

    Here’s the wiki entry for The Culture of Critique (1998):

    MacDonald examines Boasian anthropology, political radicalism, psychoanalysis, the Frankfurt School, and The New York Intellectuals, arguing that Jews dominated these intellectual movements and that a strong sense of Jewish identity was characteristic of the great majority of the individuals in these movements. He argues that these individuals were pursuing a Jewish ethnic agenda in establishing and participating in these movements, while writing that the Jewish community does not constitute a unified movement and that only a small and elite minority of that community participated in these movements.

    He claims Jewish efforts to shape United States immigration policy were in opposition to what he sees as the interests of the peoples of non-Jewish European descent, particularly the peoples of Northern and Western Europe. He concludes the book by claiming that intellectual movements he examines are movements that are either “Jewish” by nature or Jewish-controlled, with baleful results: “the result has been a widening gulf between the cultural successes of Jews and Gentiles and a disaster for society as a whole.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture_of_Critique_series

    Every Unzer should familiarize themselves with his work and endeavor to quote something from his book as much as possible.

    If you don’t have the inclination to read the entire monograph, at at minimum you should acquaint yourself with this excellent review of his book:

    http://heretical.com/miscellx/culturec.html

    Happy New Year!

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Rurik
  375. @ChuckOrloski

    Mercifully, maybe the IQ test administrator gave the Maven 75 bonus points for simply managing to get his swollen head through the facility door?

    Amd another 100 for getting the other swollen parts through!

    Anyway, for anyone serious about studying debt, I found what appears to be a very fine site devoted to the topic.

    Sample:

    Debt “assures” the domination of one country over another
    The Great Powers were quick to realise that the interest from a country’s external debt would be massive enough to justify a military intervention and a tutelage, at a time when it was considered acceptable to wage wars for debt recovery.

    http://www.cadtm.org/Debt-is-a-determining-factor-in

    I’d add that debt “assures” the domination of one set of individuals over others. I guess debt be goo if domination is yer thing.

    Take me back to the quarries!

  376. How OT this thread has gotten since a few individuals joined the conversation! I would have hoped that the more long-time posters here would recognize the common hasbara trolling tactics of hijacking threads and flooding the comments with inane posts that have nothing to do with the topic, and ignore such posts rather than responding to them in kind, thus letting them fade into obscurity, and hopefully, discouraging such future attempts, rather than feeding the trolls and making them significant.

    If we may return to discussing Phil’s article about the search for a National Security strategy, it appears that US/Israel are back to creating mischief in Iran with widespread attempt to instigate protests in that country, which smacks of the color revolutions. While it is still early days and the data is scant, there is reason to believe that these protests are being manufactured based on the small crowd sizes despite being scattered across the country.

    Alexander Mercouris at The Duran has an interesting analysis of this:

    No regime change in Iran (analysis of the current protest wave)
    :
    :
    The Iranian government showed in 2009 that it has the knowledge and the skill to handle these sort of protests, and I have little doubt it will successfully do so again, especially with the protests this time being on a much smaller scale and without visible leadership.

    If so then before long the protests will subside, with this probably becoming increasingly apparent over the next few days.

    Well worth the read.
    I would be interested in what you folks think about it.

  377. @Cloak And Dagger

    If we may return to discussing Phil’s article about the search for a National Security strategy, it appears that US/Israel are back to creating mischief in Iran with widespread attempt to instigate protests in that country, which smacks of the color revolutions. While it is still early days …

    I’m amazed that such things have taken so long to get off the ground. The sickos never rest. What a pack of pests.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  378. @Cloak And Dagger

    The key is to avoid overreaction…

    http://theduran.com/no-regime-change-iran/

    We can help by continuously exposing the lies of the usual suspects.

    God Bless the people of Iran!

    • Agree: SolontoCroesus
    • Replies: @Rurik
  379. @jacques sheete

    I’m amazed that such things have taken so long to get off the ground.

    Well, according to FARS News, this has been going on for a while. The only amazement is that they think they can succeed now that Iran is victorious (and popular) in Syria, Lebanon, and Yemen (among others), gaining popularity in Gaza, and their economy is on the rebound:

    [MORE]

    TEHRAN (FNA)- It doesn’t take a strategic mind to understand why Israeli media is reporting a secret deal has been negotiated and signed by the Trump and Netanyahu regimes regarding what they describe as “the Iranian threat,” pledging full cooperation with one another – and Saudi Arabia – in targeting Iran in various ways.
    Long before this deal, the US and Israel had already established multiple organizations and teams of both US and Israeli spy agencies charged with targeting different aspects of Iran, from its civilian nuclear program (by assassinating its nuclear scientists and sabotage) to its defensive missile systems (by creating media hue and cry in the West and the United Nations).

    Nor is that all. The US and Israeli regimes have been hopelessly trying to confront with Iran, potentially military confrontation, for many decades. This includes from backing Iraq’s dictator Saddam in his 8-year war in the 1980s to shooting down Iranian passenger planes over the Persian Gulf, targeting its oil tanks, imposing illegal sanctions and restrictions on Iranian people and government, supporting anti-Iran terror groups like MKO, ISIL and Al-Qaeda, and most recently targeting Iran’s allies in the region (Iraq, Syria and Yemen) through regime-change campaigns and via terror proxy groups, and of course doing everything they can to derail the 2015 nuclear deal signed between Iran and the P5+1 (US, UK, France, Russia, China, plus Germany).

    So, it should be clear by now how the new “secret deal” won’t change any hostile US or Israeli policy towards Iran. In the near-term President Trump seems to be set with trying to sabotage the P5+1 nuclear deal, and Israel is perpetually beating the war drums on Iran, and indeed any other Shi’ites they come upon, so they have limited options for anything else they can do. Much of the focus is likely to be on planning and making joint speeches about how “aggressive” Iran is being, and how super ready for war the US and Israel are, though naturally there is always a risk that any such joint operations grow from another layer of desperation into launching a war outright.

    In other words, the new deal to confront Iran isn’t something new – it doesn’t come with anything specific in mind that they haven’t done before, and rather just progressed because both US and Israeli officials don’t want to seem insufficiently hostile toward Iran by not signing off on the understanding after their disgraceful defeats in the regime-change wars through terror proxies in Iraq, Syria and Yemen.

    And we haven’t even started talking about the secret deals and alliances against Iran between Israel and some regional Arab dictatorships, including Saudi Arabia. To that end, Bin Salman’s power grab is in itself spectacular. But the wider significance of this can only be fully understood in conjunction with events in Israel. The Zionist regime and Saudi Arabia have long shared a common enemy: Iran. Both claim the latter is exploiting the opening created by the fall of ISIL, and the triumph of the elected governments in Syria and Iraq, to dominate the region. Iran and its allies – including Hezbollah in Lebanon and Ansarullah of Yemen – are in the ascendant, and neither Israel nor Saudi Arabia can do anything about it.

    So the two – in addition to the Trump regime – have been working together: close diplomatic and military cooperation, intelligence sharing and more. Mind you, Israeli media recently reported that a senior Saudi prince, possibly Bin Salman himself, paid a secret visit to Tel Aviv. Apparently, the idea of a Saudi-Israeli alliance is no longer controversial in both capitals, but details are starting to leak out.

    Amid the recent madness, for example, we saw the forced resignation of Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri. He was summoned to Riyadh, where he was forced to read a letter announcing his immediate departure, the official reason being that he feared an assassination attempt by Hezbollah. But why would a prime minister visit a foreign capital to resign? The odds are that he had no idea he was resigning until he landed in Riyadh to meet Saudis furious at him for holding talks with both Iranian and Hezbollah officials. His saga shocked the region for quite some time. But it didn’t shock the Israelis or the Americans. A leaked memo shows Israeli diplomats being instructed to back the Saudi version of events, and start to join Riyadh in denouncing the Ansarullah resistance movement in Yemen.

    This brings us back to the night of the long knives: An outpouring of anti-Iran sentiment might for some time provide a rallying cry for those who lost the regime-change wars in Iraq, Syria and Yemen – Iran’s closest regional allies. But they won’t be able to change the current turn of events. The disgraced warmongers have become increasingly isolated on the international stage, particularly in the United Nations where the General Assembly voted overwhelmingly against Trump’s declaration of Jerusalem Al-Quds as Israeli capital and called on Saudi Arabia and other Arab despots to end their criminal war against Yemen.

    In the prevailing environment don’t be surprised to see the established enemies of the Resistance Front conducting joint aerial military drills somewhere in the region – all simulating war with Iran and its regional allies. The United States and Israel have already tightened a military alliance with Saudi Arabia, and have all but declared war on Iran long before their latest “secret deal” – with Hezbollah as their first target.

    After all, imprisonment without trial, extrajudicial executions, human rights abuses, racism and corruption, military rule, war crimes, wars of aggression and suchlike; all these characteristics belong to the American, Israeli and Saudi regimes. And as for being supporters of terrorism, the warmongers will continue to destabilize post-ISIL Iraq and Syria by exporting their state-sponsored terrorism – and their money and weapons – to the most vicious proxies in the Middle East. In between, Israel will refrain from bombing these same vile creatures – and even give hospital treatment to wounded fighters from the Al-Nusra Front. It’s a criminal project of which Washington, Riyadh and Tel Aviv have all been in favour for decades.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  380. Tammy says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    ChuckOrloski, “Am impressed with the language battle brought upon Sam Shama.

    The only way to beat Sam and his ikes to is keep proving to them that they are not Semite, thus taking away their claim to The Holy Lands which belongs to Palestine.

    POTUS Obama called them a Jewish State, but they are dying for the Palestinians and the real Semite to call them as such.

    Another thing is to remove the special status given to them as “God Chosen People” by 3 billion Christians by believing that the Prince of Peace accepted complete OT being True Word of God. There was no written OT during the times of Prince of Peace.

    Take the Semitic battle to them, and keep on repeating Orwellian style, so the Truth should become Truth again…

    • Replies: @anon
  381. Tammy says:
    @RobinG

    RobinG, “Isn’t the New Testament also a Hearsay Book, written 100 years after Jesus’ death? And before that edited, embellished, super-natural-sized and rebranded by Paul to make Issa into a god that he never claimed to be? [Brava for your fearlessness in this den!]“

    Thanks. All the Good Book are same teaching us the Golden Rule. The whole world fights Who is God, and they all forget that we all are created by One God, no matter what one calls Him/Her/It.

    allah is two words which is al and ilah (eloh). The noun ilah, eloh, elohim is a feminine noun.

    Go figure!

  382. Tammy says:
    @Sam Shama

    Sam Shama, “[As far as the oldest surviving complete Torah in scroll form, I believe - confirmed through carbon dating - is about 800 years old.]“

    Sam you are smart enough to know that Hebrew language existed with other Semitic language. Just like anything, the languages do evolve too. But, we know from history:

    1. During the times of Prince of Peace, Hebrew spoken language was dead as a doorknob. And, for this reason the Prince of Peace who the Christians consider a Jew, and the Muslim consider a Banu Isreal spoke Aramaic to his disciples (As a Shia Muslim, I believe Jesus is Divine and could speak any language).

    2. For whatever reason the spoken Hebrew was dead as a doorknob is immaterial. What is material that it was revived from ARABIC in late 19th century. Give credit where credit is due…..

    3. The written Semitic languages were not evolved enough during the times of Price of Peace. And, for this reason the Original NT was written in Koine Greek.

    4. There was no written TaNaKh (OT) during the times of Jesus in Hebrew. The first five Books Pentateuch (Torah) were translated from memory (not hearsay) into Koine Greek about 200 years later after Jesus.

    5. With the revelation of Quran, proper Arabic was introduced with extensive grammatical rules and written vowels (vowels were always spoken till then). Quran was preserved in written form from the inception and with fully evolved Arabic. This Arabic is so strong it is only taught to Linguistic Students in Universities.

    6. Quran was also preserved in memory form, just like OT and NT. The memory form of Quran served as check and balance on the written form.

    7. Modern Arabic and Hebrew is written without vowels, almost like the old, old unloved Semitic Language. The key word here is “almost”. Therefore, Hebrew as a written language has not evolved since the times of old, old language.

    8. You keep on borrowing from Arabic to revive not only your spoken Hebrew, but trying to bring the written Hebrew at par. So, Sam give the credit where credit belongs. You are Yiddish and not Semite.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  383. @ChuckOrloski

    Happy New Year to Ya, Bro Chuck!

    I think we know someone who aint gonna like this article, published right here on UR! It’s headlined, Krugman Wrong-Again!. It’s guffaw-worthy!

    Krugman and the rest of the mass media presstitutes are idiots. Of rapidly decreasing utility.
    Time for fireworks!

    http://www.unz.com/article/krugman-wrong-again-2017-saw-emergence-not-of-resistance-but-of-an-american-totalitarian-left/#comment-2139150

  384. Tammy says:
    @RobinG

    RobinG, “Isn’t the New Testament also a Hearsay Book, written 100 years after Jesus’ death? And before that edited, embellished, super-natural-sized and rebranded by Paul to make Issa into a god that he never claimed to be? [Brava for your fearlessness in this den!]“

    Hi Robin, I will not call the Good Books as Hearsay, as they were memorized. Here is what I see.

    1. During the times of Prince of Peace, there was not written Torah, let alone the complete TaNaKh.

    2. The above Books were memorized by the Rabbis. However, the average Joe could not read, write, speak and/or understand Hebrew. It was all gibberish to them.

    3. The NT was memorized too, but attempt was made to put pen to paper, so the average Joe will have it in his homes.

    4. Quran was the first document which was fully written at inception. With Quran, proper Grammatical Arabic was revealed. A fully evolved language.

    5. Complete Quran was from inception and still is memorized by millions of Muslims each years to serve check and balances on the written form. This is to ensure that KSA, shouldn’t change the written from printing to printing. However, most non-Arabic speaking Muslims (a vast, vast majority) don’t understand the Arabic Quran even though they have memorized fully or partially as most Muslims do. They rely on translations, which is transliteration and not the Real Quran.

    6. Here the problem starts. The Muslims believe in two tracks, The Quran and The Sunnah of the Prophet. One of the part of the Sunnah is “Traditions – Hearsay” of the Prophet, but the Sunni take this as complete Sunnah of the Prophet rather than part of the Sunnah and they ignore other evidence, especially the history which is part of the Sunnah too.

    Here is an example: The most authenticated Book of Tradition (Hearsay) of Sunni is written by Bukhari 250 years after the demise of the Prophet. Bukhari wrote in his most authenticated Book of Hearsay, that he heard a hearsay, who heard it from…, who heard it from…, who heard it from, all the way to 250 years to Aisha and that she said, “When I was six the Prophet married me, and when I nine he consummated the marriage with me”.

    Now, you will hear a Sunni saying that Bukhari cannot be wrong. WHY? Because, Bukhari has himself authenticated the Hearsay by looking everyone in the chain of Hearsay and certifying that everyone is an honest person all the way to the Prophet. They call this Science. They don’t care other evidence is in contrast, or Quran says Aisha is a liar, or the Hearsay is totally against the Quranic teaching. No sir, Bukhari cannot be wrong. From his one authenticated Hearsay to be wrong, than the whole book is in doubt.

    The Quran is same for all Muslims, but the Sunnah is different for Muslims. From this different Sunnah, the Sunni have at least four different Sharia (Laws). I wonder out of the four different Sharia which one they want to implement in the USA?

    Talha believes in Hanafi Sharia, again from a man who lived 250 years after the demise of the Prophet. Talha will swear up and down, this is the True Sharia of the Prophet and the other three Sunni Sharia are fake. In total Muslims have six Sharia. Go figure!

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @iffen
  385. Tammy says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    Cloak And Dagger, “How OT this thread has gotten since a few individuals joined the conversation! I would have hoped that the more long-time posters here would recognize the common hasbara trolling tactics of hijacking threads and flooding the comments with inane posts…”

    Hi CD, I like to take the battle to hasbara troll, the Orwellian Style. Keep on repeating the Truth, so that it stays as Truth and keep on ignoring repeated Falsehood, so it doesn’t become Truth. Here is my battle to them.

    1. The are not Semite, they are Yiddish.
    2. Their spoken Hebrew language was dead, and was revived from Arabic in late 19th century. It reminds them the control of Rabbis on them and their lifetime indebtedness to the Arabs, not seven years. Lifetime indebtedness for generations to come.
    3. Their written Hebrew is still evolving from the Classical Quranic Arabic, another lifetime indebtedness for generations to come.
    4. Prince of Peace never accepted them as “God Chosen People” as the written OT never did exist in the times of Jesus.
    5. They are living on stolen land..
    6. If they were persecuted in Germany, why they are still persecuting Palestinians and Arabs.
    7. Yes, there is no “P” in Arabic language, therefore Palestine never existed. They have never read Good Books of Christians. In Arabic Flastine is written with a “F”.

    Keep on repeating the Truth, so Truth will never go away and become Falsehood.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  386. Tammy says:
    @Art

    Art. “Christianity is the New Testament as it is written – it may or may not be what actually happened. Even if it is all a false narrative – it is what it is – its words form Christian thought.

    Hi Art, I know that John used 3 things from OT to prove Jesus is God and that Jesus is Word and Inspired.

    To me as a Shia Muslim Prince of Peace is Divine, I don’t need OT to tell nor NT. To Christians is sufficient their NT as a Good Book and their belief that Jesus is God. Just like the Christians are now moving to one printed Bible called NIV, it is my belief they need to take out the OT from the Bible and only have NT. It will serve many purpose.

    1. In my opinion if will do away with split personality of God of OT and God of NT.
    2. The Hindus who we used to call pagans, have 1000 Gods, but they believe these 1000 Gods are one God and believe in Monotheism too. It is the same God with different names, personalities, time periods, gender, cultures has visited the mankind. Even the same God has come as Monkey too.
    3. The Power of shitty insignificant tribe as “Chosen People of God” will be taken away, and this 2000 years old between rivalry the Judaism and Christianity will hopefully come to end. Hopefully this 150-200 years pattern will not repeat itself.
    4. The Jews have destroyed Christianity from inside out, but they need the Bible to claim Choosiness. And, the Christians need OT to claim Jesus is God. Do they really?

    I can go on and on but you catch my drift.

    • Replies: @Art
  387. Tammy says:
    @Sam Shama

    “Sam Shama, [As far as the oldest surviving complete Torah in scroll form, I believe - confirmed through carbon dating - is about 800 years old.]“

    The Jews who came with Moses from Egypt were not Monotheist, they were “Cow Worshipers”. The story of “Golden Calf” is well documented in OT and Quran. And, there is another story in Quran about the “Heifer” which the Chapter 2 of Quran is named after. You and I know and so do umpteen. They learned Monotheism from Arabs.

    For forty years they gave one grief after another to Mosses, they were shitty people.

    So, when I brought these two facts to one of my good Jewish, he as usual used the “old victim card” by answering what you expect the physiology of the tribe who they were enslaved for generations.

    Sam, are we still breeding that special “Red Heifer”, as the “Temple” is about to be built?

    • Replies: @RobinG
  388. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Tammy

    Take the Semitic battle to them, and keep on repeating Orwellian style, so the Truth should become Truth again…

    simple minded strategy, Tammy.

    repeating and repeating and repeating is NOT effective means of propagandizing.

    one person repeating the same message is merely annoying, like a fly or a mosquito. They tend to end up deded.

    observe how the masters of propaganda carry out a campaign & you may notice that you hear the same message but from many different voices, arenas, media, what have you.

    you are competing with pros, Tammy, with hundreds of years of experience in distorting Truth and jamming it down people’s throats. They have tons of money — most of it stolen, that’s why they’re able to spend it so recklessly — no risk, they’ll get more.

    so you have to be smart.
    the video you posted is very effective at getting out the message of the Palestinian people, but how is that related to your message that “Jews don’t speak Hebrew they’re not Semitic so Palestine is not theirs so . . .” The video has no relationship to what you appear to be trying to do.

    what you seem to be trying to do is too complicated. If you have to use so many words to explain the message you want to repeat, you will lose your audience before the seventh word out of your mouth.

    • Replies: @Tammy
  389. Tammy says:
    @anon

    the video you posted is very effective at getting out the message of the Palestinian people, but how is that related to your message that “Jews don’t speak Hebrew they’re not Semitic so Palestine is not theirs so . . .” The video has no relationship to what you appear to be trying to do.

    Thank you for your excellent advice. My message is very simple. Remove the OT from the Christian’s Bible, from the 3 billion believers. My simple message is,

    The Jews have destroyed Christianity from inside out, but they need the Christian Bible to claim Choosiness. And, the Christians need OT to claim Jesus is God. Do the Christians really need OT?

    Take the power of “Chosen People of God” away!

  390. @Tammy

    ” Sometime like to sit with you and listen to your blues”

    No thanks. your wordy, know-it-all attitude really rubs me the wrong way:

    ATM

  391. Art says:
    @Tammy

    Hi Tammy —- first – you are a great addition to UR – admire your scholarship – love you spirit – Happy New Year to you. May every day of 2018 bring us a little closer to Peace.

    As a philosophical Christian, I see the OT as baggage. Judeo-Christian is an oxymoron – in my view Jesus brought us God 2.0. He gave us a hopeful, caring, and forgiving God – the opposite of the Jew god.

    Every day more people are getting their back up to the Jews. Someday, someone of note will have the courage to speak up. Then it will be down-hill for them.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @RobinG
  392. Sam Shama says:
    @Tammy

    Well Tammy, after I read through your multiple comments I think I understand your predicament. Still, irrelevancies, whether number-listed or otherwise, remain irrelevancies. You had nothing to say regarding my first paragraph which consisted of the gist of evidence, but instead, focused on the parenthetical last remark, proceeding to write something or the other. Fact is, I probably know and count among my friends more Palestinians, than you a Shia might. I could be wrong.

    No one disputes classical Arabic’s role in both language and culture, but to hear you is to believe that Arabic the language was miraculously produced, conjured out of thin air in an instant, no precedents or antecedents!

    Now, stop obsessing with that. It won’t get you very far. If you are talking about genetic heritage, then yes, Jews have a distinctive signature, combined with much that is common with Palestinians, Lebanese and Syrians. Are we surprised? Ashkenazim, of whom I might be considered one, certainly mixed with Europeans. Again, no surprise there; the mtDNA of European women are indelibly etched in our helixes. There is a Yale study on it, and Google is your friend.

    But the real issue is this: how are we to integrate Pals into Israel’s mosaic? I believe an unmistakeable economic transformation is at hand. These are only the beginnings. The next decade – if I’m right – will utterly change the conversation. That is what I have alluded to in different ways on this webzine and elsewhere. You should read Israel Shamir’s recent piece: http://www.unz.com/ishamir/it-has-never-been-so-good/

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @SolontoCroesus
    , @Art
  393. Sam Shama says:
    @Tammy

    Talha believes in Hanafi Sharia, again from a man who lived 250 years after the demise of the Prophet. Talha will swear up and down, this is the True Sharia of the Prophet and the other three Sunni Sharia are fake. In total Muslims have six Sharia. Go figure!

    Talha! Are you AWOL?

    Happy New Year

    • Replies: @Talha
  394. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    I believe an unmistakeable economic transformation is at hand.

    Nice try, Sam. As you well know, not everything boils down to GDP. Your people were willing to hold onto their dream of a Zionist homeland for almost two millennia. What makes you think the Pals are prepared to give up on theirs in a scant 70 years?

    Please, give it a rest… i.e., know your audience.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @geokat62
  395. Tammy says:

    Sam Shama says, “But the real issue is this: how are we to integrate Pals into Israel’s mosaic? I believe an unmistakeable economic transformation is at hand. These are only the beginnings. The next decade – if I’m right – will utterly change the conversation.”

    Sam, I am afraid that there are dark clouds hanging over Israel. Hassan NasrAllah has warmed people to leave Israel and go back to Europe as the next war will see the end of Israel. With 9/11 Israel went too far and I believe POTUS (Deep State) decided revenge. Though, revenge is against both Christianity and Islam.

    Since USS Liberty, USA has been tied up in Vietnam and mostly Middle East, fighting fires until 9/11. After that USA sat up and came with a game plan and all three POTUS including Dubya, Obama and Trump are playing from the same book of plan. Rhetoric is different but the actions are same. Saker thinks Americans are dumb asses, including their Presidents, Military and Whole Nation too.

    Yes, the economic transformation could have been before 9/11 but I believe it is too late now for Israel. The economic transformation continues in GCC and will become the part of the whole Middle East, but I am afraid it will exclude Israel and the nation will no longer exist.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @ChuckOrloski
  396. Tammy says:

    Art says, “Hi Tammy —- first – you are a great addition to UR – admire your scholarship – love you spirit – Happy New Year to you. May every day of 2018 bring us a little closer to Peace.”

    As the Good Book says, “Blessed are the Peace Makers!”

    Thank you for welcoming me to UR and the feeling is mutual. No country, land, mammon is worth to take another man’s life.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @iffen
  397. @Tammy

    Hi CD, I like to take the battle to hasbara troll, the Orwellian Style. Keep on repeating the Truth, so that it stays as Truth and keep on ignoring repeated Falsehood, so it doesn’t become Truth. Here is my battle to them.

    Hi Tammy,

    Well, more power to you and your crusade, however, this is OT for this thread of discussion of Phil’s article. Yes, I understand that your posts on language etymology are obliquely related to Jewish history, and therefore Israel and Palestine, and from that on to Foreign (and domestic) Policy – but that is a wide swath, since pretty much everything in the world today is related to Israel and Palestine, and the Middle East, etc.

    But, engaging trolls seems to invariably lead to ad hominem attacks on each other and severely detracts from serious conversations on topics that are critically important to the world today. I am not the host of this site, so I have no say in limiting the nature and flow of conversations here, and you certainly have some great points about semitic language evolution that I did not know before, but it would be great if such information can somehow be presented in the context of the topic under discussion.

    Unz Review is one of the few great sites on the Internet for discussing topics seriously and actually sharing real information. I would hate for the comments here to devolve into useless noise like other sites on the Internet. Ron Unz has created an amazing forum for sharing diverse views that has laudably rich content (far from an echo chamber) and some very knowledgeable writers and commenters that bring a plethora of scholarship to a banquet of discussions. Trolls, of course, would want to disrupt such a forum as widespread knowledge withers night flowers.

    It would be a shame if they succeeded in doing so.

  398. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    [As you well know, not everything boils down to GDP]

    Never claimed it did. My position is this: people care overwhelmingly more about their economic circumstances than anything else. There is an optimal level.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @geokat62
  399. @Tammy

    I second both the welcome extended to you and this, as well.:

    No country, land, mammon is worth to take another man’s life.

    Funny how that message keeps getting told to the “Chosenites,” yet, despite their supposedly high IQ and cleverness, they keep worshipping the golden calf and causing trouble wherever they go. Of course any opposition to them is written off as “envy” because the eternal victims could never imagine doing any wrong.

    I think the takedown of the clown, Krugman, in today’s UR (great start to the New Year) as well as the Jesuit article are excellent, but that’s just me, a dumb, ignorant, low IQ goy talking.

    However the Izzie firsters keep deluding themselves that their project is valid and permanent. They must enjoy being tools and dupes of the worst among them, especially when they can transfer the blame for any problems they suffer on “anti-Semitism.”

    PS: I’ve learned that the smug ones are not worth trying to reason with. All they understand is mockery and humiliation, which are their own favorite tools, (look, for example, what they did to one of their own before snuffing the man) but they’re no longer worth even that to me.

  400. Tammy says:

    Sam Shama says, “No one disputes classical Arabic’s role in both language and culture, but to hear you is to believe that Arabic the language was miraculously produced, conjured out of thin air in an instant, no precedents or antecedents!”

    Yes, Sam it came from thin air. The Classical Quranic Arabic came with the Holy Quran from God. And, for this reason the Muslims consider Quran as Everyday Living Miracle, as it is not a miracle which is recorded in Holy Books many, many moons ago. It is a miracle one witnesses everyday.

    Sam, you need to really learn the history of Quran, though not very many Muslims know about it. But Sam not from JewishPedia.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  401. @Sam Shama

    But the real issue is this: how are we to integrate Pals into Israel’s mosaic?

    A statement of arrogant supremacism worthy of being embroidered on a whoopee cushion, for truly

    That would be crewel and unusual punishment.


    Mind boggling.

    Jews stole Palestinian farms, businesses, homes, ports, trade, and now, in the fullness of their Tikun Olam generosity, Sam tells us everything will be better once Palestinians totally capitulate and be “integrated into ISRAEL’s economic orb.

    We stole your house.
    Things will go better for you if you agree to live in the basement and serve us.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Sam Shama
    , @L.K
    , @iffen
  402. Sam Shama says:
    @Tammy

    Sam, I am afraid that there are dark clouds hanging over Israel. Hassan NasrAllah has warmed [sic] people to leave Israel and go back to Europe as the next war will see the end of Israel.

    Dark clouds? None that I see. Sunny beaches otoh. Nasrallah warned people to go back to Europe, did he? At this point, I see where you are going. Well, we shall see, shan’t we?

    Saker thinks Americans are dumb asses, including their Presidents, Military and Whole Nation too.

    I think he is terribly mistaken.What do you think?

    The economic transformation continues in GCC and will become the part of the whole Middle East, but I am afraid it will exclude Israel and the nation will no longer exist.

    Your reality needs a check. This constant reiteration of Israel ceasing to exist reeks of …..well forget it.

    • Replies: @Tammy
  403. @Sam Shama

    My position is this: people care overwhelmingly more about their economic circumstances than anything else.

    a matching set of whoopee cushions.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @jacques sheete
  404. Sam Shama says:
    @Tammy

    [Yes, Sam it came from thin air. ]

    I see. OK. Can you please elaborate?

    • Replies: @RobinG
  405. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    But the real issue is this: how are we to integrate Pals into Israel’s mosaic? I believe an unmistakeable economic transformation is at hand. These are only the beginnings.

    Oh my’ — Gasme Sam is starting out the year with big bad con.

    Thanks to Trump/Netanyahu/Javanka, the Israeli Zionists are already talking about annexing the “occupied” West Bank (saying occupied if forbidden).

    In the end, Gasme’s economic miracle will mean that the Palestinians will be gentrified out of their neighborhoods. There will be few if any Palestinians in Palestine.

    How cynical of Gasme – he is a smart man, he knows his people – he shares their heart – he knows what will happen to the Palestinians.

    What can we say, but that Gasme is conning us.

    Art

    p.s. The article about the Jesuits is very informative about how tribally wedded and twofaced the Jews are. How they were outwardly Christian but inwardly hating Jesus – always working to maintain power over their host Euro communities.

  406. Tammy says:
    @Sam Shama

    Sam Shama, “Your reality needs a check. This constant reiteration of Israel ceasing to exist reeks of …..well forget it.”

    Sam, I am part of GCC and no need to go anywhere. Mohammad bin Salman (MBS) is playing Jared Kushner (JR) as a fiddle. The Arabs are not dumb, they are just biting their time.

    I think and I might be wrong, but JR might be taking his instructions from Evil Kissinger. Muller is now concentrating on the 18 days, when Trump become the President and Flynn resigned. Flynn lied that he contacted the Russian Ambassador about sanctions, and Trump says he never instructed Flynn to do as such.

    So Sam, who gave the orders to Flynn to contact the Russian Ambassador?

    Hopefully, we will know soon!

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  407. geokat62 says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    We stole your house.
    Things will go better for you if you agree to live in the basement and serve us.

    Extremely well put, S2C… grazie!

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  408. Sam Shama says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    I knew it!

    Rocking chair while embroidering? Speedy stitcher or embroidery hook?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  409. Sam Shama says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    The Palestinians are joining in this prosperity by building homes. There is a great building boom all over the West Bank. New apartment houses grow on every empty spot. Yesterday’s poor villages like Imwas near Bethlehem and Taffuh near Hebron became real towns of 3 to 4 floor modern houses, very similar to those coveted by Israelis.

    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/it-has-never-been-so-good/

    It is you chaps who live in basements, unwilling to come outside and feel the sunlight on your faces. Most Pal youth have begun to see the light, not so much their decrepit leadership, but that will change as well. Yes, Tikkun Olam is right.

  410. RobinG says:
    @Tammy

    I’m not a biblical scholar of any sort, but I do occasionally hear things.

    “The Jews who came with Moses from Egypt….”

    Chances are, this is a fairytale, and they were never there in the first place.

  411. Sam Shama says:
    @Tammy

    Sam, I am part of GCC and no need to go anywhere. Mohammad bin Salman (MBS) is playing Jared Kushner (JR) as a fiddle. The Arabs are not dumb, they are just biting their time.

    Didn’t ask you to go anywhere other than where you choose to. The Fiddler plays on the Roof, you should know.

    I welcome you to the UR as well and reckon you’ve got the potential to out-Art Art and his buddy Moshe. As you bite your time, that ie.

    Salaam Aliekum

  412. RobinG says:
    @Art

    Christianity is the New Testament as it is written – it may or may not be what actually happened. Even if it is all a false narrative – it is what it is – its words form Christian thought.

    Art, this is a sweet thought. I’d like to quote you one day. There is so much good in the philosophy. And yet, is not Easter the core of the NT? Is this even debated? It’s the Xtian insistence on this that lost me.

    • Replies: @Art
  413. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama

    Don’t mock her, Sam. Every religion has its miracles. (Or are you turning atheist?)

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  414. iffen says:
    @Tammy

    No country, land, mammon is worth to take another man’s life.

    Bullshit!

    Or should I say camel shit?

    You being a linguist extraordinaire can tell us if the same meaning is conveyed.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  415. Sowhat says:
    @Biff

    I agree with you, Biff. I’ve voted for five decades, always intent on “fixing” the broken Federal Government. Now, I’m convinced about the futility of my designs more than ever. The MIIC IS the Government and they aren’t voted into office. They are assigned to the many posts that ensure their inertia and designs and “the voter and his vote”is a sham and a facade. The Executive Branch is a puppet show. It’s a known fact that they (and that would be the MIIC) pick and groom these poor excuses for human beings, years in advance. They have it all scripted, just like the marketers of “new products” have their next model to be released with just enough “bells and whistles” to entice the public to buy again and throw away the old, when in fact they could offer their next model with such amazing technological advances that it would blow our minds.

    Social Media, everywhere on the Net, is developed into a faced-off with a more and more divisive split of the voter base, causing focus to be directed toward petty political issues and “hate” language that SEEM to be important but, those issues aren’t the true issues.

    Only a small percentage of the voter base are true activists (in the end, activism accomplishes little or nothing) and half of the “activist” are paid or infiltrated by the “Intelligence Services” so that agendas are directed and extremists’ lives and/or assets are broken and eliminated. All the while, the Proles’ focus is kept at a distance, away from the MIIC’s agenda to do what they really wish- Global Hegemony via military conquest, if covert social ops aren’t successful, military intervention is next.

    Any and every threat to the “American Century” (and the established world monetary system) is crushed with Sanctions, Propaganda that brands them Terrorists States or Humanitarian Despots. After branding Russian a meddler and an evil, most recently, I am even more convinced that this is nothing more than a continuation of the American Century. Writers write book about it but, few read them, relative to the swell of the population.

    I believe that they (the MIIC) use “false flag” events (New York, Orlando, Las Vegas) to further their ultimate goals and could care less about how many innocent civilians lose their their lives in the process- in fact, the more deaths and destruction, the better as they can stir up that much more hatred toward “our enemies.”

    They use the MSM as their propaganda arm, spreading lies and half truths that form public opinion. They glorify the Military and Police, labeling them all “heroes” And spread their lies, repeating them so often that they are perceived as truth.

    I enjoy reading comments sections, under articles, as much as I do reading the articles but, in reality (and I realize the comments, too, are just “perceptions”), it’s really an exercise in frustration for all when you factor in the plausible deniabilities. We can’t, after all, get at the real movers and shakers of the world. It’s designed to keep us at a distance, bickering among ourselves and coming up with the “fixes” while the MIIC goes about the business of making the world one totalitarian regime. Eisenhower wasn’t just whistling Dixie in his farewell address.

    • Agree: Biff
  416. @Tammy

    Tammy: “Yes, the economic transformation could have been before 9/11…:

    Tammy,

    First off, I am sorry for having made negative my first encounter with your valuable and original thought.

    Am so pleased how you go mano y mano with deception specialist, Maven Shama.

    Continue to be unflabble as Zionist savages try and circle wagons that carry free internet speech.

    One matter on your quote, above, on the spectacular “economic transformation.”

    Doubtless, the history of Zionist global economic “Transformation” planning is old.
    I can not pinpoint an actual date but I offer a guess @ around the late-19th Century.

    For me, the plan for globalized economy was officially launched by ZUS President Ronald Reagan and the G.A.T.T. Of course, such treaty came down upon citizens in a sneaky & verticle top-to-bottom Process.

    In other words, Americans did not vote on passing G.A.T.T., but our nation’s Jewish Lobby-Congress insisted passage was done to benefit middle & working class citizens, more accurately descibed as restless consumers.

    Next came ZUS President G.H.W. Bush 1991 New World Order proclamation which was celebrated in a New York Times Op-Ed by Abe Rosenthal. Please note, Tammy, that NAFTA was conceived in the G.H.W. Bush administration’s embryo?

    Distant from the game-changing 9/11 False Flag event, the ruinous US economic fate “Transformation” and gradual deindustrialization, including job offshoring/outsourcing deals, were sealed under ZUS President William Jefferson Clinton.

    Maybe others here can contest my view, Tammy, and I hope that I did not bore you into a stupor? Thank you!

  417. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    You forgot to describe him as a truth teller.

  418. RobinG says:
    @iffen

    Tammy: No country, land, mammon is worth to take another man’s life.

    Iffen: Bullshit!

    N.B. The If-It would kill any of us, if the price were right.

    • Replies: @iffen
  419. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Jews stole Palestinian farms,

    And you call yourself a researcher. In the early days the Zionists paid for the land.

    And spoils of a just war is technically not the same as “stolen.”

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Rurik
    , @L.K
  420. Art says:
    @RobinG

    There is so much good in the philosophy. And yet, is not Easter the core of the NT? Is this even debated? It’s the Xtian insistence on this that lost me.

    Hi RobinG,

    Religions are called faiths for a reason – they are faiths because parts of them cannot be factually verified. The Virgin Birth and the Resurrection are clearly articles of faith. But there are parts of a religion that we can actually intellectually “believe in.” The faith parts of religion tell us how God and we should deal with each other. The other element of a religion is its philosophy for living with each other.

    The outcome of a religion’s philosophy for living can be compared to the outcome of other religion’s philosophy. Clearly all philosophies do not produce the same outcomes. Some do better than others.

    I cannot make factual claims that my religion’s faith is better than the next guys – but I can with observation, say that one philosophy produces better outcomes for humanity. History indisputably makes that claim for the Christian philosophy. Christian philosophy is a set of ideals – it is an engine of progress. It produces a measure of freedom and nice things like airplanes.

    One does not have to profess the Christian faith to be a philosophical Christian. Both can call themselves Christian.

    Think Peace — Art

  421. @Sam Shama

    My Mother’s family did very fine wool embroidery — I think the English use the word “crewel” to describe that style of embroidery. It’s worked with a threaded needle, on linen or silk. The techniques are beyond my ken, tho SWMBO fusses over their complexities. A few pieces worked by my family members survive. They are beautiful.

    Sadly, the pieces are very few; happily, no whoopie cushions among them.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  422. Rurik says:
    @geokat62

    Every Unzer should familiarize themselves with his work

    it should be a mandated part of every high school curriculum

    Happy New Year!

    hell yes Geo!

    and Happy New Year to all the crew at Unz Review!

    may 2018 be the year that the world experiences at new enlightenment, and forgoes the Eternal Wars that have menaced the people of the planet for so tragically long.

    the year of a rapprochement between Russia and the West

    between Sunni and Shia

    the year that the global warming fraud is put to rest, and the world’s people turn to sustainable population levels to ensure less strife on the planet and more peace and harmony and yes, love .. and a respect for all the denizens of this planet.

    the year when the formerly zio-west is freed from its demonic zio-spell

    and ends ‘in and out’-sourcing its jobs and its future

    and looks to the stars and to technology to free the human spirit, rather than enslave it

    we can do it Geo, if we’re just tenacious enough, and if we can manage to audit and then end the Fed!

    Cheers and Skol and Salute and Nostrovia and Salaam and Shalom and all the other ones.. to you all!

  423. @iffen

    In the early days the Zionists paid for the land.

    Some of the land, yes. Some of the so-called purchases were swindles of one or another sort.
    Some was outright stolen –

    Israeli settlers occupy Palestinian home in Hebron
    28 Jul 2017

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/07/israeli-settlers-occupy-palestinian-home-hebron-170728080215824.html

    And spoils of a just war is technically not the same as “stolen.”

    If you say so.
    That logically means that the 1967 war cannot be characterized as a just war, at least not according to the thinking of Jewish jurist Theodor Meron:

    Theodor Meron, one of the world’s leading jurists who was then legal adviser to the [Israeli] foreign ministry, wrote several memos in late 1967 and early 1968 laying out his position on settlements.

    In a covering letter to one secret memo sent to the prime minister’s political secretary, Meron said: “My conclusion is that civilian settlement in the administered territories contravenes explicit provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention.”

    Meron, who now lives in the United States, set his arguments out over several pages, but they boiled down to the fact that Israel was a signatory to the Geneva Convention which prohibits transferring citizens of an occupying state onto occupied land.

    .”..any legal arguments that we shall try to find will not counteract the heavy international pressure that will be exerted upon us even by friendly countries which will base themselves on the Fourth Geneva Convention,” he wrote.

    The only way he could see settlements being legally justified – and even then he made clear he didn’t favor the argument – was if they were in temporary camps and “carried out by military and not civilian entities.”

    While in the early years settlements were militaristic and often temporary, the enterprise now has full government backing, houses some 350,000 civilians in the West Bank and has all the hallmarks of permanence.

    Meron declined to respond to specific questions from Reuters.

    But in an article this month in the American Journal of International Law, he expressed concern about “the continued march toward an inexorable demographic change in the West Bank” and the appointment by US President Donald Trump’s administration of an ambassador to Israel who has raised funds for settlements.

    There is, Meron wrote in the journal, a growing perception in the international community that “individual Palestinians’ human rights, as well as their rights under the Fourth Geneva Convention, are being violated.” http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/07/israeli-settlers-occupy-palestinian-home-hebron-170728080215824.html

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @jacques sheete
  424. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    God Bless the people of Iran!

    my agree button doesn’t work from this location

    Agree !

    (not sure what’s going on other there with the protests, and if zio/CIA GSEs are involved or not)

    they just loosened restrictions on strict Islamic dress codes, so I have no idea

    so long we all manage to avoid more wars… !

  425. Sam Shama says:
    @RobinG

    I was something of an atheist in my late teens – a particularly Jewish affliction I’m told. Then I met a wise old man who was also a Nobel laureate. Studied what is termed Density Functional theory. He changed my mind.

    The idea of G’d for Man, is best viewed in my opinion, as the everlasting relationship between expanding knowledge and ignorance. Man is constantly meant to question: himself and all that is around; for that is how he was made. He is deeply flawed; for that is how he was made, and any “philosophy” which relies on an excess of piety loudly broadcast at every turn, is merely an exercise in self-indulgence.

  426. RobinG says:

    “One does not have to profess the Christian faith to be a philosophical Christian. Both can call themselves Christian.”

    According to you. Do you belong to an Order of Philosophical Christians? Are you the High Priest? First among equals? How about Moshe? In the mid 90′s, I decided it was not appropriate for me to take Communion.

    • Replies: @Art
  427. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    My position is this: people care overwhelmingly more about their economic circumstances than anything else.

    Not all people, Sam. As you are well aware, I, given my Hellenic roots, am partial to the writings of the Ancients, especially Plato.

    Plato, in The Republic, describes the three parts of the soul as Reason, Spirit, and Desires. Depending on which of these parts rule, there are three types of man: Intellectual, Warrior, and Bourgeois.

    While it’s true that most people are the Bourgeois-type, every society still has their intellectuals and warriors… even the Palestinians.

    Here is an excellent summary of Plato’s theory:

    [MORE]

    Man is not “by nature” a selfish calculating creature moved by greed and fear. That’s just bourgeois man. Bourgeois behavior has always been possible for human beings, but it was not considered normal, much less ideal, until the rise of modern liberalism. I believe that we can best understand bourgeois man by looking backward to Plato’s Republic. At the core of the Republic is a systematic analogy between the structure of the city and of the individual soul. Socrates analyzes the soul into three parts: reason, spirit, and desire…

    I use the term bourgeois to refer to oligarchical and democratic man alike. The bourgeois type is ruled by his desires. His spiritedness is constricted to the hard nub of self-love, or love of one’s self-image (vanity), and sublimated into competition for money and the status symbols money can buy. His reason is merely a technical faculty for calculating how to pursue pleasures and avoid pains. His desires basically boil down to greed and fear. His highest value is a life of comfort and security. His greatest fear is a violent death. Bourgeois man is the source of political cynicism, for he eliminates moral considerations from politics and seeks to reduce it entirely to a calculus of greed and fear. But that itself is a moral decision: the rejection of one model of the good life for another. Bourgeois man is himself a moral type. He thinks that bourgeois society is fundamentally good. When forced to defend it in moral terms, he lifts his head and squeals about such notions as individual rights, the sacrosanct freedom of the individual, and the moral equality and dignity of man. Then he puts his snout back in the slop. If all men were bourgeois men, then resistance to the system would be futile, because nobody is easier to rule than a man whose highest value is a long and comfortable life and whose greatest fear is a violent death. If a man values wealth more than honor or community or principle, he can be bought. If a man fears death more than slavery, he can be enslaved. Indeed, Bourgeois man does not need to be seized violently and sold into slavery. He will sell himself into slavery. Bourgeois man is a natural slave, whether he wears chains or a three-piece suit.

    Fortunately, not all men are of the bourgeois type. In terms of Plato’s psychology, the alternatives to desire-driven bourgeois man are men who are ruled by reason and by spiritedness, i.e., intellectuals and warriors…

    The intellectual’s highest values are the true, the good, and the beautiful. He hates the dishonest, sordid, and ugly more than death itself. Thus he is willing to die for matters of principle. The warrior’s highest value is honor, and he fears dishonor more than death itself. Thus warriors are willing to die over matters of honor. If intellectuals and warriors can conquer the fear of death over matters of principle and honor, then they can conquer all lesser fears as well. – Excerpts from Greg Johnson’s New Right vs. Old Right

    • Replies: @RobinG
  428. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    The “flame of Western civilisation” calls your urgent attention to the next little arson in your plans for America.

    Canada, we are in your eternal debt for sharing so selflessly, a citizen so moral, as leaves us, flawed-men, asking for more.

  429. Rurik says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    We’re looking about for a Jesus to mount the cross so that we don’t have to.

    that’s why He’s worship as God Himself

    because we all know that what He was fighting was the devil incarnate

    exactly like today

    the money changers in the temple

    the Fiend

    not too many men have the cajones to take on the Fiend

    Like Mr. Giraldi is doing

    or as Geo has mentioned, Kevin MacDonald

    as Ron Paul tried

    Charles Lindbergh of yesterday and to a point, Pat Buchannan

    the late James Traficant

    there are many, many men and women of heroic character that have sacrificed it all to fight the Fiend, and God bless them all.

    And God Bless Ron Unz and Phil Giraldi and all the other men and women of honorable character and integrity who give the rest of us hope

  430. Rurik says:
    @iffen

    spoils of a just war is technically not the same as “stolen.”

    then what’s with all the eternal whining about “stolen” Nazi art, eh?

    or anything the Nazis ‘did’, for that matter, if acts of genocide and theft are sanctioned so long as there’s a ‘war’ going on

    if it is OK for Zionist Jews to steal Palestinian (and Syrian and Lebanese and Egyptian…) land, while murdering their civilians, then how the hell does anyone who defends such things cry about what Nazis might have done generations ago, even as they’re doing the same things (only far worse) today? Eh?

    Perhaps for iffen, it’s just a matter of Jews being different. And held to a different (none) standard?

    • Replies: @Art
    , @jacques sheete
    , @iffen
  431. @geokat62

    What did you have in mind,

    and

    In light of your comments about MacDonald’s books, what do you think of public Read-Ins of MacDonald’s book(s) and other similar important texts?

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Sam Shama
  432. @Rurik

    Spoken with truth & poetic beauty, Rurik.

    Also, we ought mention the “Fiend” fighting work of Cynthia McKinney and the much maligned, David Duke.

    Thanks!

    • Replies: @Rurik
  433. Sam Shama says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Any with Hakenkreuzs on them?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  434. geokat62 says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    What did you have in mind,

    You know the answer to that question

    and

    In light of your comments about MacDonald’s books, what do you think of public Read-Ins of MacDonald’s book(s) and other similar important texts?

    I think that’s a terrific idea. We should ask Prof. MacDonald to give the inaugural reading. I would ride down on my Harley to attend that session in the flesh.

  435. iffen says:
    @RobinG

    Please, RobinG, you are sadder than S2C.

  436. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Like you said S2C, analysis is not your thing.

  437. Sam Shama says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Splendid notion. Every Thursday, 6 pm at the Washington Mall. MacDonald’s short introductory material to be followed similar important texts, primarily sourced from the archives of Der Stűrmer, Der Angriff, and of course the Völkischer Beobachter. I’ll bring the Austrian strudels and schnapps.

  438. Zumbuddi says:
    @Rurik

    Jim Traficant was a few years ahead of me in HS.
    He was QB of team, my cousin was his lineman.
    We visited him at hospital where died.

    RIP Jim Traficant
    and
    Ernst Zundel

    Long Live Phil Giraldi
    Long Live Ron Unz
    Long Live Kevin MacDonald

    Long Live Red Ice

    and

    HANDS OFF IRAN!

    • Agree: Rurik
  439. Art says:
    @RobinG

    In the mid 90′s, I decided it was not appropriate for me to take Communion.

    Did you learn anything of practical life sustaining value from Christianity before you stopped taking Communion?

    If so – what do you call it?

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. I am a commenter on UR with the handle – “Art” – that is all.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  440. RobinG says:
    @geokat62

    “CANADIAN CRUCIFIED by AMERICA-FIRSTERS on NATIONAL MALL”

    If you actually died, [followed by criminal trials for ritual execution] you might get a few more days in the news than the guy who flew into town in an ultralite to protest something or other.

  441. @Cloak And Dagger

    Well, according to FARS News, this has been going on for a while.

    Thanks for that, and I’m sure it’s correct.

    I probably should have written that its interesting that we’re only hearing about it now. Now that “someone” has decided it’s time to brainwash us goyim about how “evil” the place is.

    Next we’ll be treated to mind numbing BS about how we need to rescue them pore folk!

  442. @SolontoCroesus

    My position is this: people care overwhelmingly more about their economic circumstances than anything else.

    Of course that’s true.

    Only we dumb goyim think we’re people. Our betters know we’re beasts of burden.

    That explains why people think that debt is good, while we dumb goyim think otherwise.

    What, then can we say about this????

    On his deathbed Hugo Stinnes, the man for whom 600,000 people worked, warned his sons against debt: “Was für mich Kredit ist, sind für euch Schulden!” (What is credit for me are debts for you.)

    Read more: http://www.bridges-ec.com/services/iii-refitting-the-q-strategy-strategy-repair-from-a-to-z/4-slow-motion-bankruptcy-the-stinnes-imperium/

    Do the “assimilated” turn goy?

  443. It was surprising that the protests in Iran were said to have started in Mashad and Qom, the strictest or most religious of Iran’s cities.

    Trita Parsi explains that situation — it’s surprising: the protests originated with hardliners opposed to Rouhani’s moderating policies — as someone noted elsewhere, Iran’s government had just lifted the hijab requirement.
    Here’s Parsi:

    The current protests appear much more sporadic, with no clear leadership and with objectives that have shifted over the course of the past four days. According to witnesses I’ve spoken to, the protests were initiated in Mashhad by religious hardliners who sought to take advantage of the population’s legitimate economic grievances to score points against the Hassan Rouhani government, which they consider too moderate.

    But they quickly lost control over the protests as the economic message has resonated with a broader segment of the population than they expected. Frustrations with corruption and falling living standards appear to have given way to much sharper political slogans — such as “Death to the dictator!” and “Down with the Islamic Republic!”
    Few have been more surprised by all of this than Iran’s reformists. The absence of slogans and chants invoking Green leaders such as Mousavi, Karroubi or former President Mohammad Khatami gives credence to their claims that they are not a driving force behind these protests. In fact, no major reformist figure has come out in favor of the protests, and some activists have even spoken out against them. http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/31/opinions/iran-protests-meaning-opinion-parsi/index.html?utm_source=Trita+Parsi+Email+List&utm_campaign=d661588fae-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_12_31&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f8832a7e78-d661588fae-256652853

    • Replies: @Art
    , @SolontoCroesus
  444. Art says:
    @Rurik

    Perhaps for iffen, it’s just a matter of Jews being different. And held to a different (none) standard?

    It is amazing how easily effin and Gasme (Sam) display their contempt for Western Christian values.

    Both are bottom feeders – put downs and guilt trips just roll off their keyboards. There is hardly a sentence without hurtful words rapped in sarcastic low brow humor.

    This thread took a nosedive, once they started commenting.

    I have stopped with effin. Maybe I should do the same with Gasme.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  445. @Rurik

    Agree!

    Button not working.

    Note to Unz: Please change that &6%$(. annoying thing!

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  446. @Sam Shama

    Not in my possession, but I believe there was a Benedictine monastery in the region where Mom grew up; it may have been embellished with Hakenkreuze, as was the Benedictine monastery in Austria where Hitler went to school. L’Aquila was developed by Germanic peoples; L’Aquila means Eagle, which appears on the crests and flags and other symbology of many nations, cities, etc., including Iran, National Socialist Germany, and the USA. The Eagle is the focal point of the symbol for Zoroastrianism.

    Madame Renouf has argued that the swastika (Hakenkreuze) and other reminders of National Socialism should not be employed or associated with activities seeking Justice for Germany and correction of the narrative of World War II.

    I think Nikki Haley provoked a renewed discussion of that position: The Confederate Flag could be taken down in a climate (and by night flower agitators) that had made of the Swastika a symbol more fearsome than Satan himself.

    The Confederate flag having been struck, the same ideology (and the same night flower agitators) moved to take down statues of Robert E Lee, and Thomas Jefferson.

    The American flag has come under attack, not least by, among others, that charming JAP, Sarah Silverman.

    In this game of tug-o-war, the Day Flowers are giving ground too easily.

    Time for a major counter-offensive.

    Die Fahne Hoch!

    Raise High the Flag — the flag of resistance to The Predator, the Fiend, the Night Flower, the Israel Lobby, the Borg, the neocons, the Deep State.

  447. Ron Unz says:
    @jacques sheete

    Button not working.

    Note to Unz: Please change that &6%$(. annoying thing!

    Everything seems to be working fine, and anyway it’s been several since I’ve changed any of the code on the Live server.

    You seem to have used the “Agree” a little earlier. Don’t forget that commenters are rationed to only a single Agree/Disagree/etc per hour in order to prevent too much mindless cheerleading.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Rurik
    , @jacques sheete
  448. Art says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    There are an unusual number of deaths.

    The CIA/Mossad are probably helping matters along like they did in the Ukraine by getting people killed.

    (effin is all excited (it is all justified because it helps the Jew agenda))

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  449. @SolontoCroesus

    PS I was a major supporter of Parsi’s writing & then-new organization, NIAC, years ago. He’s gone more and more establishment, while still supporting the Iranian people — a tricky act. I don’t agree with the entirety of his thoughts on the CNN piece. He refrains from raising the spectra of outside agitators, which is, to my mind, naive in the extreme.

    ~Mike Pence canceled a trip to Israel, ostensibly to remain in DC in case a tie-breaker vote was necessary, but I suspect the post-embassy-in-Jerusalem flap, the situation in Israel was too tense for a visit.
    So Pence took care of that business via his night-flight to Afghanistan.

    ~Kushner has been meeting with Saudis and trying to play Kissinger — to ludicrous effect. We know without a doubt the Saudis, now in league with Netanyahu, and having drawn in Trump, want to damage Iran.

    ~We know the kinds of tactics these critters employ.

    ~Thierry Meysen connected Hillary Clinton – Victoria Nuland Kagan’s UN boy Jeff Feltman to the plot initiated in ~2005 to destroy Syria — http://www.voltairenet.org/article190102.html

    Several years ago, before Hillary Clinton tasked him to manage the Color Revolutions in Tunisia, Egypt & elsewhere, Feltman testified before the State Dept’s subcommittee on religious freedom about his connection with and financial support of unidentified NGOs in Iran, so Feltman has been working to subvert Iran for well over a decade. It’s ludicrous to think that he and the people whose interests he promotes, are not involved up to their eyeballs in the current Iran protests: If they did not agitate to set them off, then Feltman and/or fellow travelers at least had eyes on the ground waiting for a home-grown situation to exploit and exacerbate.

    • Replies: @Tammy
  450. Rurik says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    thank you Brother Chuck,

    I read one of David Duke’s books, something like ‘My Awakening, long, long ago. If I remember right, it was mostly quotes from Jewish authors and religious leaders exposing their id and intentions.

    and his (understandable) reaction, and how it all effected his world view

    I don’t think there’s ever been even one of his legions of detractors who’ve ever been able to demonstrate one erroneous or malicious word he’s written, just apoplexy and hysterical smears over the fact he wrote it.

    also as Zumbuddi just mentioned, Ernst Zundel, who’s been persecuted and hounded even to the point of prison simply for telling the truth.

    Rest in Peace Mr. Zundel, Valhalla is honored by your steadfast courage and unrelenting love of your people

    • Replies: @iffen
  451. iffen says:
    @Ron Unz

    in order to prevent too much mindless cheerleading

    It also prevents too much mindful cheerleading.

    • Disagree: SolontoCroesus
  452. L.K says:
    @iffen

    You are a cheap Zionist LIAR.

    By 1947, after decades of Jew immigration into Palestine and the buyout project, your Zionist heroes had increased land ownership to 6% of historical Palestine and Jews were only 30% of the population.

    Wars of conquest and ethnic cleansing, such as the 1948 war the zios carried out, were against international law and the UN Charter…

    Not that you – or your scummy Zionist heroes – ever cared about any of that, of course…

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  453. iffen says:
    @Tammy

    Everybody’s building ships and boats
    Some are building monuments
    Others jotting down notes
    Everybody’s in despair
    Every girl and boy
    But when Talha the Sufi gets here
    Everybody’s gonna jump for joy

  454. @Art

    Yes, yes, and yes.

    I saw the “Death of a policeman” and thought it ironic: wasn’t a policeman killed in Colorado over the weekend?

    I also think it’s ironic that Trump is cheering on the protesters and urging them to overthrow their government, at the same time that Tom Steyer is pumping millions of dollars into an effort to impeach Donald Trump https://www.c-span.org/video/?438820-1/newsmakers-tom-steyer

    iow Both efforts — overthrowing Iran’s leadership and impeaching Trump — are being egged on by, um, you know, Jews.

    But there’s more (apologies for failing to provide as succinct an analysis as does iffen; I keep getting tripped up by devilish details)

    Steyer said he’s already got ~3 million signatures, and that most of his support is from college campuses. He pays organizers and trainers; the organizers train the trainers who then solicit volunteers on college campuses, where they sign up college students.

    In this way, Steyer has accumulated an extensive e-mail list which, some reporters speculate, he will use to launch a presidential campaign.

    About that outreach — apparently highly successful — on college campuses: Some of us are aware of David Horowitz’s campaigns that take place primarily on college campuses –

    ” For eight years the Center has waged campaigns on college campuses in the form of hundreds of campus “Teach-Ins,” to raise awareness of the threat of Islamo-Fascism, and the genocidal assault on the state of Israel. Its “Stop the Jihad on Campus campaign,” identifies the campus agents of the terrorist Muslim Brotherhood which are spearheading the genocidal propaganda campaigns of Hamas. The Center is the only conservative institution willing to take on these agents directly and expose them as a terror front present on hundreds of American campuses. ” https://www.davidhorowitzfreedomcenter.org

    iow, Jewish and Israelish interests are of prime importance; based on false notions of animus toward Jews and playing on totally false narratives about Islam, Hamas, etc.

    But Horowitz is relatively late to the party that revels in subverting college students.
    Beginning in the mid-1980s Zevi Weiss approached college professors and deans to persuade them to conduct courses on The Holocaust. His organization supplied materials, training and indoctrination– including trips to Israel and the GasMe ReEnactment Centers in Europe (GmRECE -pronounced GammaRaze :) ) — of the professors who took the bait. Peter Hayes at Northwestern was Weiss’s first score; after that, Notre Dame fell in line, followed by 60 or more universities in short order.
    Those victories under his belt, Zevi Weiss turned his sites to the US military academies — the Air Force, West Point, and US Naval Academy and West Point soon had classes on The Holocaust firmly installed in their curriculum, taught by professors (paid by US taxpayers) who were indoctrinated by rabbis or other Jewish-zionist preachers of the religion of holocaustism.

    With that groundwork laid, and America’s young people brainwashed by Elmer Gantrys of holocaust snake oil, they are easy prey.

    Parsi’s article did not mention college students or young people in his overview of protesters in Iran, a very important omission, in my opinion.

    Sam Shama noted his delight that Palestinian youth — “Pals” — are easily seduced with shiny trinkets — “economic circumstances” that, more accurately, corner them into succumbing to Jewish overlordship in Palestine. Father forgive them for they know not what they are doing, and they’ll awaken too late to the vacuity of a valueless GDP.

    In 2002, Benjamin Netanyahu proposed to a US House of Representatives panel that Iranian young people could likewise be seduced —

    “Beam into Iran ‘Beverly Hills 90210 [and another similar TV series whose name escapes me]; make Iran’s young people see the fine houses and swimming pools and clothes; they’ll want to have these things. That’s subversive!https://www.c-span.org/video/?172612-1/israeli-perspective-conflict-iraq

    The fact that Parsi did not mention the presence of young people; and also that the more-or-less organized, internal reform movement was not supportive of the protests, might, I hope, mean that Bibi’s scheme fell on ears not so easily swayed by cheap theatrics.
    Good for them.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  455. Rurik says:
    @Ron Unz

    Happy New Year Mr. Unz

    and a heartfelt thank you for your auspicious and inimitable website, luring so many of the most talented and inspired writers and thinkers.

    I can only imagine the furor you’ve stirred up, and the delirium of emails demanding you desist at once.

    (that part at least must be fun ; )

    and I personally am grateful for your forbearance and generosity with some of us less-than-polished scribblers, pushing the boundaries (if not trampling them altogether) of rectitude and decorum.

    This is your digs after all, and we’re all guests here. Thank you for providing us with this oasis.

    If 2018 bodes well for the world’s put upon people, then I suspect some of that will be in no small part due to the genius of your site, and the waves that reverberate from the pebbles dropped in these Internet lakes of truth

    Namaste’ to you sir

  456. @iffen

    Germany’s war was a just war: England and France declared war against Germany; not only was defense legitimate, it was the responsibility of the government to its people.

    Israel’s war in 1967 was a war of aggression, carried out under deceptive means and motives.

    Israel provoked the Six-Day War in 1967, and it was not fighting for survival
    James North [for Mondoweiss] June 2, 2017

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @jacques sheete
  457. @Ron Unz

    Thank you my fine man and Happy New Year to you. May it be exceedingly prosperous!

    Thanks, once again for all you provide. I just spent several hours again, today over at UNZ.org getting myself a tad more educated and cannot express my appreciation enough.

    I recommend that site to everyone.

  458. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Israel provoked the Six-Day War

    Like the Russkies provoked AH, huh?

  459. iffen says:
    @Rurik

    Not much in the way of reality at your new location either, huh?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  460. RobinG says:
    @Art

    Probably not. You could have framed the question differently. But “…practical life sustaining value…?” Not likely.

    • Replies: @Art
  461. Rurik says:
    @iffen

    just war

    the salient distinction between Germany’s efforts vis-a-vis WWII vs. Israel in 1948 is – defending your nation and your lands from very real threats; as in imperial, genocidal Bolsheviks- hell bent on enslaving Germany

    vs.

    waging acts of brutal terrorism and wonton slaughter of men, women and children in order to steal other people’s land

    the distinction between a ‘just war’ and an illegal and immoral war of aggression and theft could hardly be more stark

  462. Rurik says:
    @iffen

    well iffen, I just gave you a nice dosage of reality from my traditional location

    see if that holds you over..

  463. Sam Shama says:
    @Art

    [I have stopped with effin. Maybe I should do the same with Gasme]

    Do you promise?

    • Replies: @Art
  464. Sam Shama says:
    @Rurik

    [waging acts of brutal terrorism and wonton slaughter of men, women and children in order to steal other people’s land]

    The salient distinction between your account and the received history is the distinction between wonton soup followed by fortune-cookie knowledge and something so vastly superior that it actually defies comparison.

  465. Sam Shama says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Sam Shama noted his delight that Palestinian youth — “Pals” — are easily seduced with shiny trinkets — “economic circumstances” that, more accurately, corner them into succumbing to Jewish overlordship in Palestine. Father forgive them for they know not what they are doing, and they’ll awaken too late to the vacuity of a valueless GDP.

    How can you twist so cynically what I said? Participating in a building boom to own a home of your own is to possess a “trinket”? Do you know Arabs are now enjoying privileged access to Israel’s top universities at the expense of far better qualified Jewish students? “Trinkets” too?

    You would deny Pals [and Iranian youth] the chance to better their economic lot, to join an ever more closely integrated world ecosystem, for a lifetime of what? Listening to crafty old Imams living off the fat of the land? [Yes, I have many Iranian friends as well, and their accounts of how the youth in Iran feel today, would be a touch different than what you may call the "Zoroastrian ideal"]

    And then you put yourself in a trance-like state channeling Christ: “Father, forgive them for they know not what they are doing”…etc. Did Jesus actually say that in one of those Hollywood films you claim to scorn to your core?

    Once again, this is what is happening in Israel:

    The Palestinians are joining in this prosperity by building homes. There is a great building boom all over the West Bank. New apartment houses grow on every empty spot. Yesterday’s poor villages like Imwas near Bethlehem and Taffuh near Hebron became real towns of 3 to 4 floor modern houses, very similar to those coveted by Israelis.

    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/it-has-never-been-so-good/

    • Replies: @Tammy
  466. iffen says:
    @Rurik

    the distinction between a ‘just war’ and an illegal and immoral war of aggression and theft could hardly be more stark

    AH had already bullied his way to everything Germany needed. The Allies were stumbling over each other to placate him. He was determined to bring death and destruction and he did it.

    The Zionists had accepted the lines drawn by the Allies but were attacked by countries that also were the result of the same line drawing process.

    Like I said, faulty reality picture.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  467. Rurik says:

    something so vastly superior that it actually defies comparison.

    all you’ve got is a typo

    sad, sad little maven

    feeling sooo superior because you found a typo!

    a little pathetic, really

    and the truth remains that Nazi Germany was fighting an honorable war against treasonous, commie scum from within and genocidal fiends in the East

    whereas the Zionist Jews in Palestine are waging a terror war of theft, aggression, genocide, and serial outrages against simple human decency

    that’s the truth Sam, typos or no

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Sam Shama
  468. RobinG says:
    @geokat62

    Here’s a review, by Jackal, of Greg Johnson’s New Right vs. Old Right

    [MORE]

    The author comes across as an agitator rather than a thinker. Nothing wrong with that, but the title is very misleading.

    I bought this book because I wanted to understand the deeper argument of the extreme right movement. I am disappointed, because I do not get any coherent picture except a call to non-violent arms. The book contains material published on a website during the last five years, but the material could equally well had been published 30 years ago. I do not know whether the book represents the thoughts of one guy or whether this is representative for a movement. I would have liked the author to position his ideas within a broader perspective. We are just told that the old right wanted change through violence and that the new right want change through non-violence. I think the author has taken most of his ideas from the Grece network in France in the 1980, also called the French New Right. Johnson wants to model his New Right on the French New Right. For a good summary of the French New Right, I recommend Against Democracy and Equality: The European New Right. That is a five star book, but the style is very academic.

    The author wants an ethnic White America. He is not talking about culture, he is talking about race. He tries to justify his standpoint, but I have never seen a scientific piece of evidence supporting ethnic purity. Presumably there has to be geographic transfers of people because violence is ruled out. How? Will there also be Native America and a Black America? And what counts as white? Turks and Persians look white. Are they included? The author states that whites can be of all religions, which seems a bit odd, because there is critique of the Jews in the book. I do no think that the author thinks that a Jew could be White.

    He alludes that other races also should have their nation. Does that mean the blacks get Louisiana or do they have to leave for Africa? Nowhere in the book are Asians mentioned. And what is to be done with mixed race people? It seems like all the hard questions are being passed over. The author has a very broad definition of what is white (definitely including Iceland, Russia, Cyprus, and Portugal). Why not just talk about the white man’s culture as opposed to white man’s genes? The key problem with the book is that difficult questions are systematically avoided. The book is not deep or philosophical so at the very least the author could have talked a bit about the practical problems.

    The author wants his White America to resemble the 1950s. There should be traditional sex roles in society. Men should be strongly encouraged to get married in their 20s and take on the responsibility of supporting their families. No more male slackers in their 30s and 40s. (He doesn’t mention the female slackers.) He is also sceptical of democracy and prefers an elected aristocracy. (Is it the WASPs of the 50s?) The Catholic Church is stated as a role model (but I am thinking the Chinese Communist Party). Anyway, assuming a White American nation state, I do not understand why it has to be ruled in a non-democratic manner. And is it really realistic to freeze sex-role to the 1950s? Why not 1900 instead? The author fails to realise that the world is dynamic and changing. Even in a purely White America, things would not be like they were in the 1950! He could have presented a view of a dynamic White America. However, if you read the recommended reading above you will find that he has taken most of his ideas from what the French New Right wrote in the 1980s. There is actually interesting stuff written in France during the last 20 years too, but I don’t think the author is fluent in French.

    I still give the book two stars, because I wanted to understand more about the American extreme right. I know a bit more now. Two star is generous.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  469. Tammy says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    SolontoCroesus says, “~Kushner has been meeting with Saudis and trying to play Kissinger — to ludicrous effect. We know without a doubt the Saudis, now in league with Netanyahu, and having drawn in Trump, want to damage Iran.”

    No Muslim will give up on Jerusalem and Quds, especially any Ruler as there will be no feathers left on his head. And, for this reason Israel cannot mow down all the Palestinians as they are surrounded by 1.5 billion Muslims, not just Palestinians.

    When Israel asked for Holy Lands, instead of Timbuktu, they didn’t realize the signification of Quds. Now, they are stuck.

    Take for example Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, one day he is friend with Syria and Iran, next day he friends with KSA, again friend with Iran and Qatar…. You catch my drift, it keep the Gasme 214 I.Q. starching his head wondering and worrying what is going on….

    Good times are ahead….. Keep up the faith….

  470. Tammy says:
    @Sam Shama

    Sam Shama says, “Once again, this is what is happening in Israel:

    The Palestinians are joining in this prosperity by building homes. There is a great building boom all over the West Bank. New apartment houses grow on every empty spot. Yesterday’s poor villages like Imwas near Bethlehem and Taffuh near Hebron became real towns of 3 to 4 floor modern houses, very similar to those coveted by Israelis.

    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/it-has-never-been-so-good/

    Shalom Sam,

    You keep posting Fake news hoping Orwellian style that it will become Truth. Israel Shamir is one of those wolf in sheep clothing, like fake Ari Anvery.

    You and I are talking about two different economic booms. You are talking about the above Fake News. While I am talking about GCC. And that once Isreal will be gone, GCC, Iran and Turkey will build Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Yemen and so forth. An economic bonanza which is already going on in GCC.

    Iran is producing cars and they are opening a car plant in one of the GCC countries. Plans are to connect Iran with GCC by land. Get it Sam.

    The beautiful twice daily pledge of allegiance to God, “Shema Yisrael Adonai Eloheinu Adonai Echad”, now Sam what do you think “Echad” means? I can tell you it doesn’t mean, “One”. Ask your handler and if he can’t answer you, then came Sam back to this Real Semite, who taught the “Cow Worshipers” real Monotheism.

    Blessed be HaShem!

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Sam Shama
  471. @Rurik

    the salient distinction between Germany’s efforts… vs Israel’s…is …[the distinction between real threats and fraudulent ones.]

    That’s the truth.

    Also, I find it interesting that it’s supposedly OK when Izzies do what was done to them, yet we’re supposed to deem it a crime when others treat their Jews as the Nazis were charged with doing to them.

    The rank hypocrisy and double standards is positively, asphyxiatingly mephitic.

    Here’s a Jew sympathizer agonizing* over the concept.

    The Poles at the present time are engaged in doing to their Jews and their Ruthenians and their Lithuanians what the Germans and the Russians did to them.

    II. Jewish Freedom in Poland
    - by a Special Correspondent, The Nation, August 30, 1919, p. 286

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/Nation-1919aug30-00286

    *Note: He’s making false charges and engaging in hyperbole and hysteria if not downright lies in the piece.

  472. @Rurik

    feeling sooo superior because you found a typo!

    Anything to get a rush of superiority. As if the type doesn’t make any errors itself.

    Typical troll behavior, just what one would expect from a dupe of a criminal organization. Or, more likely, a dupe of at least two gangster cliques, i.e., the USA and Israel.

  473. @SolontoCroesus

    Germany’s war was a just war: England and France declared war against Germany; not only was defense legitimate, it was the responsibility of the government to its people.

    Germany’s war was defensive and therefore, indeed just.

    Besides it never wanted war, and besides that, New York Jews declared war on Germany in 1933, and called for a boycott of a nation already suffering from the effects of the Versailles Rape, Bolshie threats, Comintern terrorism and agitation, withdrawal of German credit, and the Great Depression to name just a few of the crimes against Germany at the time.

  474. iffen says:
    @Tammy

    While I am talking about GCC.

    “So far it is not looking promising at the summit after the limited optimism in the beginning when the six member states agreed that they would meet in Kuwait to break the diplomatic impasse,” said Al Jazeera’s Jamal Elshayyal, reporting from Kuwait City.
    “Bahrain has decided to send a third level diplomat, the deputy prime minister and Saudi Arabia has sent Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir instead of a royal family member.
    “It’s clear the summit won’t yield any of the positive outcomes that we thought.”

    ‘The GCC is effectively dead’

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/12/key-gcc-summit-overshadowed-diplomatic-rift-171205075523042.html

    I suppose one more reality challenged commenter can be accommodated.

    • Replies: @Tammy
  475. Sam Shama says:
    @Rurik

    Ah yes, Rooter-tooter’s impeccable, overwrought, fortune cookie logic. Dolfy needed:

    (1) 21 Panzer divisions,

    (2) A Kriegsmarine greater than the size possessed by England, in contravention of previous treaties

    (3) Offical adoption of Lebensraum – “Living space”, specifically living space for “Aryans” to be obtained by:

    (4) Drang nach Osten: written with Austrian clarity in Mein Kampf. Jackboots over Austria, Sudetenland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, France, Denmark, Yugoslavia, Greece, Norway and Western Poland. Complemented by the lofty principle:

    (5) Lebensunwertes Leben – “Life unworthy of life” for people with incurable mental health problems, serious birth defects, and other health issues. <– This would be Rooten-tooter's favourite action on Blacks today wouldn't it?

    Read Dolfy's Hossbach Memorandum of Nov 5, 1937, noble Rooter-tooter. It's spelt out in some detail there………

    Now, all of this, to contain an internal discontent [the lingering original mess left by the Hohenzollerns].

    Mr. Malaprop, before you whine with that oft-repeated “typo” of "duel" citizens, and all the other quality malapropisms, [there is such a collection], take better care.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Art
  476. Sam Shama says:
    @Tammy

    As-Salaam-Aliekum Tammy,

    You sound somewhat strained and upset. There is no need for us to be fighting over a problem we both need to solve. Together.

    You keep posting Fake news hoping Orwellian style that it will become Truth. Israel Shamir is one of those wolf in sheep clothing, like fake Ari Anvery.

    No, it isn’t fake news, rather the reality on the ground. Have you visited the West Bank? Or do you spend your time trying to gain sympathy in the West? You consider Israel Shamir and Uri Avnery [do get the poor man's name right] wolves in sheep’s clothing [I actually think they are pains in the arse]. So Jews in general, are wolves in sheeps’ clothing according to you. What do you think of Ron Unz, your host, on whose website you are commenting so passionately? I am curious.

    You and I are talking about two different economic booms. You are talking about the above Fake News. While I am talking about GCC. And that once Isreal will be gone, GCC, Iran and Turkey will build Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Yemen and so forth. An economic bonanza which is already going on in GCC.

    I am talking about that which is actually happening in the West Bank. I have good friends; Palestinians who are co-investing with us in Ramallah and Tulkarem in businesses which generate 900 well-paying jobs. Whether you call that fake news is your choice. They would laugh at you. You should embrace the principle “A job produced, a dollar earned, is better than a stone thrown”. I hope your GCC ends in success. We need successes. Apparently, the recent attempts have met with some trouble [see Iffen's post]

    Iran is producing cars and they are opening a car plant in one of the GCC countries. Plans are to connect Iran with GCC by land. Get it Sam.

    It’s about time, isn’t it? Iranians are good drivers. I stand ready to testify on that fact. But seriously, I think there is no reason to isolate Iran from the economic system of which we are all beneficiaries.

    The beautiful twice daily pledge of allegiance to God, “Shema Yisrael Adonai Eloheinu Adonai Echad”, now Sam what do you think “Echad” means? I can tell you it doesn’t mean, “One”. Ask your handler and if he can’t answer you, then came Sam back to this Real Semite, who taught the “Cow Worshipers” real Monotheism.

    I really don’t understand your insistence on this matter. It’s odd. The question of who is or isn’t a Semite is at best an academic one. Still, if anything, it’s a matter best dealt with by genetics. I suppose if I were to grant you that, yes, you are the true monotheist! So what? Does it buy you a cupcake? Anyway, silly subject.

    As to what אֶחָֽד׃ means, there are various meanings, deliberately kept that way. It is the cardinal number 1. The Unity. It is also the kabbalistic meaning of to “die into G’d”. In the end, it is as Rabbi Kraft explains in his video, a symbol meant to convey what it was meant to convey. Languages are the keys to “Reality” in every generation.

    Now, a quiz for you: בְּרֵאשִׁית בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ

    What does the first word mean?

    • Replies: @Tammy
  477. Rurik says:
    @iffen

    the distinction between a ‘just war’ and an illegal and immoral war of aggression and theft could hardly be more stark

    AH had already bullied his way to everything Germany needed. The Allies were stumbling over each other to placate him.

    Nazi Germany was a fabulous success. You’re right. The people were thriving and happy. The economy was as a glorious phoenix and Germany’s future looked resplendent. Hitler proved to be a superlative genius and statesman, yes it’s true. And transformed Germany from a prostrate and humiliated people crushed under the Fiend’s betrayals and treachery, and lorded over by imperious Jews during the Weimar regime, into an ascendant nation of a great people. (in many rather ironic parallels, it is also the story of Putin’s Russia)

    but, Germany was menaced by the Fiend in the East, who had every intention of doing to Germany what it had done to Hungary and then Ukraine and all the other nations under it’s Satanic hate grip.

    Hitler tried to mollify it, [what German in their right mind would want to see such an ascendant Germany destroyed at the near pinnacle of its greatness?!] but just as with the Ukraine today, its real enemy (just as our real enemy today in the West) was always lurking in the London and NYC banking houses. (the same ((ones)) menacing Putin’s Russia and Iran today even as we speak)

    so Hitler did what he could to make deals with the devil, and tried to out maneuver Stalin. But for utter ruthlessness, Stalin made Hitler look like a girl scout. If Hitler were more like Stalin, and feared that a large percentage of Europe’s Jews were enemies, unlike Hitler who built camps for them with swimming pools and orchestra stages.. Stalin would have lined them up at the edge of a ditch and machine gunned them by the millions, if he considered even a fraction of them a threat. Much like he did the Polish ruling classes and millions upon millions of Russians and Baltics and Eastern Europeans and others.

    Such were the characters of Herr Hitler vs. his nemesis, Stalin.

    which brings us to your postulation…

    He was determined to bring death and destruction and he did it.

    why?

    do you suppose he hated being loved like no other man in Germany or the world, by his own people?

    do you suppose that he secretly wanted to see the German women and girls raped wholesale by sub-human orcs?

    Teenage German boys dying of starvation in death camps set up after the war was over?

    Millions of the flower of Germany, with so much hope for the future, dying by the millions fighting a two front war.

    and then millions upon millions of ethnic Germans genocided after the war was over..

    Really?!

    That was Hitler’s aim all along?

    whew, are you for real?

    The Zionists had accepted the lines drawn by the Allies but were attacked by countries that also were the result of the same line drawing process.</blockquote

    Did the Palestinians accept those lines?

    the Allies?

    that war was supposedly over, but I get your little 'slip' there. Since we're still fighting it, aren’t we?

    anyways, unlike Nazi Germany – who were defending their lands (and culture and way of life) from enemies, the founders of Israel (murderous terrorists) were attempting to steal other people’s land. (snake handler’s credos notwithstanding)

    and so when they butchered and slaughtered villagers in a calculated design to get the Arabs to flee for their lives, so they could then steal their land… it is hardly a surprise that these people should rally an attempt to get their lands back from the ethno-terrorists who had just massacred villagers in order to steal it, no?

    so you see it isn’t apples to apples, because Germany was defending its territory from aggression while the Zionists were using terror and slaughter to steal other people’s land.

    (I was going to say ‘wonton slaughter’, but I looked and an attempt at levity vis-a-vis these people’s terrible and ongoing suffering just seemed beyond crass)

    Like I said, faulty reality picture.

    hmm

    • Replies: @Rurik
  478. Rurik says:
    @Rurik

    -editing glitch at the end-

  479. Sam Shama says:
    @RobinG

    Hi Robin,
    Thanks for this post. I now understand what Geo means by the “Flame of Western Civilisation”. Let me go and suggest the arrangement to my dear better half.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  480. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama

    in contravention of previous treaties

    since we’re comparing Nazi Germany to Israel, then how do you have the nads to bring up treaties?

    Israel has not respected any principle of law or tenet of human decency since its dubious inception

    and all but the most intellectually infantile would pretend that Versailles was anything more than the iniquity of allied scoundrels and treacherous villainy

    (3) Offical adoption of Lebensraum

    with the simultaneous complicity of our good Uncle Joe

    Jackboots over Austria, Sudetenland,…

    Nazis enter Austria

    hardly looks like jackboots to me

    https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-afa20639878fad8aee6f9362e32049f9-c

    doesn’t seem too worried about an assassination attempt, now does he?

    I wonder how many millions of ethnic French would give their right arm to return France to what it was like under Vichy..

    compared with under zio-rule today

    (5) Lebensunwertes Leben – “Life unworthy of life” for people with incurable mental health problems, serious birth defects, and other health issues.

    for a zio who tries (pathetically) to defend the genocide of the Palestinians, you’ve got some pus-nads presuming to moralize on your superior compassion

    <– This would be Rooten-tooter's favourite action on Blacks today wouldn't it?

    God but you’re a loathsome sack of shit, eh Sam

    I’ve lived with and loved black folks. Even dated them and worked side by side with my black brothers and sisters. What a disgusting POS you can be.

    before you whine with that oft-repeated “typo”

    well now Maven, I wasn’t whining about a typo. You were, remember?

    I consider people who parse a person’s comments for any error in spelling or grammar to be petty. The mark of an intellectually and morally bankrupt loser.

    But I’ll give you that you can spell better than I can. I never presumed to be an intellectual or academic. I’ve never been to a university (other than to pick off the sorority girls from under the lugubrious gaze of the frat boy types when I was that age)

    So you’ve got me there.

    you can spell ‘Hohenzollerns’, and no doubt know more Hebrew words than I do, but I’ll take solace in the fact that I’m honest and moral and fully human. Not given to duplicity or craven lies to smear another’s character because I can’t compete in the open contest of ideas.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  481. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    (1) 21 Panzer divisions

    Oh my’ – Gasme is back on WWII, diverting attention away from Jew responsibility for 9/11 and all that has followed.

    Trump/Netanyahu/Javanka are stealing Palestine as he types up distractions and diversions, in his all to recognizable mendacious fashion.

    Think Peace — Art

  482. Rurik says:

    Rooten-tooter’s favourite action on Blacks today

    they always do that don’t they?

    criticize Israel = wants to gas all Jews

    criticize BLM = wants to lynch all blacks

    always with the mindless cartoon, kneejerk paradigms, huh Sam?

    venerates, (worships even!) the ineffable beauty of human femininity = hates women

  483. Sam Shama says:
    @Rurik

    Hahaaah. Yes that impenetrable logic once again:

    since we’re comparing Nazi Germany to Israel, then how do you have the nads to bring up treaties?
    Israel has not respected any principle of law or tenet of human decency since its dubious inception

    and all but the most intellectually infantile would pretend that Versailles was anything more than the iniquity of allied scoundrels and treacherous villainy

    Since you and your fellow travelers condemn Israel for acting like Nazis [ask Shenzi the cackling hyena who 'agrees' with you], whom you then turn around and praise, the irony oughtn’t be lost, even on you.

    The rest of your pictures are merely propaganda shots put together by the able Herr Goebbels. No surprise there. There are many similar pictures of Saddam Hussein being adulated and cheered by children and women before they tore down his monuments. It’s called the psychology of crowds under siege.

    You might want to read Shirer [Rise & Fall of the 3rd Reich] or Christopher Clark [Iron Kingdom: The Rise and Fall of Prussia] to understand the true history [Warning: Long reading each, more than fifteen hundred pages together, unassailably fortified with evidence and detail].

    for a zio who tries (pathetically) to defend the genocide of the Palestinians, you’ve got some pus-nads presuming to moralize on your superior compassion

    In the department of virtue-signaling, Rooten-tooten, none exceeds your capabilities.

    I’ve lived with and loved black folks. Even dated them and worked side by side with my black brothers and sisters. What a disgusting POS you can be.

    I see. So when you call them ‘niggers’, it’s really a term of endearment.

    I’ve never been to a university (other than to pick off the sorority girls from under the lugubrious gaze of the frat boy types when I was that age)

    You must be what is called a ‘stud’ in America. As I said, virtue-signaling – in this case, sexual one-upmanship – is your particular trait. Btw ‘lugubrious’ is poor word choice in the context. ‘Envious’ would be far better.

    you can spell ‘Hohenzollerns’, and no doubt know more Hebrew words than I do, but I’ll take solace in the fact that I’m honest and moral and fully human. Not given to duplicity or craven lies to smear another’s character because I can’t compete in the open contest of ideas.

    Which Hebrew words do you know? I am truly curious. In what context did you learn them?

    You are honest, moral, not given to duplicity or craven lies etc. Indeed you are more than human. Christlike, in one word.

    Selah as Banzai likes to cackle.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Rurik
  484. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    Art: [I have stopped with effin. Maybe I should do the same with Gasme]

    Gasme: Do you promise?

    Gasme — I promise that when you move to Israel, I will stop commenting on your nonsense, I will stop doing my best to save you from yourself.

    I care for you — you are a prisoner of your childhood fears – you keep pushing yourself and your fellow Jew propagandists on a path to endless needless hate.

    Do you never want to be free? You know what Jesus says “the truth will set you free.” That is the best advise anyone has ever given another person.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Please move – you will never have to worry about being gassed again. Just think you will be walking among those who do not all want to kill you. Do yourself and us a favor.

    p.s. You keep telling us how great the economy is in Israel – move there!

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  485. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    I now understand what Geo means by the “Flame of Western Civilisation”.

    Cue the scary music! LOL

    As you well know, I have been very forthright about my opposition to the Diversity Is Our Strength meme propagated by the ADL. I also have been up front about my strong opposition to the non-restrictionist Immigration Act of 1965. I’m against these policies, along with Soros’ Open Society Foundation, because they are meant to change the demographic complexion of European and European-derived countries. At the same time these organizations are pushing diversity for the West, they are fighting tooth and nail to preserve the racial purity of the Jewish state. How can you reconcile this?

    These immigration policies and the cultural Marxist ideology that underpins them represents a ticking time bomb for Westerners. (You of all people shouldn’t have too much difficulty relating to the ticking time bomb analogy, Sam?)

    Don’t believe me? I did a quick search to determine which countries take in the most immigrants. Which countries do you think appear on this list, Sam? Israel? Of course, not.

    10 Countries That Take the Most Immigrants

    10. Switzerland
    9. The Netherlands
    8. Italy
    7. Spain
    6. Australia
    5. France
    4. Canada
    3. The United Kingdom
    2. Germany
    … and drum roll, please…
    1. The United States

    https://www.usnews.com/news/slideshows/10-countries-that-take-the-most-immigrants

    Notice something that these countries have in common? That’s right, they are all European or European-derived countries. I wonder why that is?

    If these trends continue at their present rate, these countries’ demographics will be irreversibly transformed in a few generations.

    Need proof as to who was behind the implentation of this policies? I know you do not have the decency to admit it, but Barbara Lerner Spectre was gracious enough to do so. She openly admit that “the Jews” would be held responsible for these policies. And that they would be resented for it.. and she was right.

    So, take it easy with the guilt trip, Sam. I have nothing to feel guilty for. I’m not the one who has been making monthly donations to help a powerful lobby push for a phony GWOT whose real purpose was to enhance the security of the villa, which has led to the deaths of over a million innocent people.

    Now, rather than feeling any shame for this, you go on the offensive and try to make others feel ashamed for resisting the policies that will as Prof. MacDonald predicted lead to the following baleful results: “a widening gulf between the cultural successes of Jews and Gentiles and a disaster for society as a whole.”

    Read that last part again, Sam… “a disaster for society as a whole”. While you may be eagerly awaiting this outcome, I am doing my best to avert it by ringing the alarm so that other members of The Dumb Goyim wake up before it is too late.

    So, keep doing your best to cast me as an evil race-ist. I don’t mind… it’s just one more in the list of false aspersions you have already cast upon me.

    Let me go and suggest the arrangement to my dear better half.

    You do that, Sam. But be sure not to mention what the arrangements are in your beloved Eratz Israel, will you? We wouldn’t want to burst her bubble and realize that you may be the real race-ist.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Art
  486. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    There are many similar pictures of Saddam Hussein being adulated and cheered by children and women before they tore down his monuments. It’s called the psychology of crowds under siege.

    I’m surprised you committed this faux pas, Sam. Haven’t any of the neocons reached out to you to inform you that you are not to bring up Saddam after the fiasco in Iraq? It might alert The Dumb Goyim to all the lies they were told about Operation Iraqi Freedom, cakewalks, WMD, and such. Better to remain silent so that these lies all slip into the memory hole.

    Now, don’t you feel comforted by the fact that am always here willing to lend you a helping hand?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  487. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama

    your pictures are merely propaganda shots

    so you’re suggesting Austria didn’t welcome Hitler?

    I see. So when you call them ‘niggers’, it’s really a term of endearment.

    note to Sam: we all don’t play by your rule book

    I can call a nigger a nigger, and it has nothing to do with the millions upon millions of decent and honorable blacks, whom it can be a distinct pleasure to be around. K?

    can that sink though the layers of iron political correctness that has calcified your brain and atrophied your mind?

    saying a man is a worthless, sub-human orc and lowlife POS

    and that doesn’t mean I’m referring to Mother Theresa because she’s also white. Does that somehow seep though the concrete?

    I know your entire psychological makeup is based on cartoon memes, as in if a persons uses the word nigger to describe a nigger then it automatically means = he wants to kill all black people

    but just try to imagine a more nuanced way of processing words and information

    try to imagine for instance, that it’s possible to say ‘those Jews in Israel are acting like war criminals’, without it automatically meaning that the person saying so = wants to gas all Jews

    I know this is a tall order for you Sam. I’m trying to deconstruct the programming you’ve been prisoner to your entire life. Especially living in England for so long! But trust me, once those dendrites and synapsis start to find new paths in your neural wattle, you’re going to feel an amazing liberation from the ridged wiring you’ve been subjugated to your entire life. The freedom of thought you’ll experience will enthrall you, and your mind will soar!

    Btw ‘lugubrious’ is poor word choice in the context. ‘

    oh, but I do dissent

    just do a photo search of ‘lugubrious’

    that’s the look!

    I’m telling you that’s the look!

    Which Hebrew words do you know? I am truly curious.

    יהיר מייבן

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    , @geokat62
  488. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    I don’t think I’ve ever suggested that Jews on the average do not support immigration. I support merit and qualifications based immigration, not wholesale family-chain based, not at the present time. Although early immigration to America was essentially family-chain based. If it were restricted to my parameters, there is no reason to believe that the ‘complexion’ [:-) ] of ‘European-derived’ countries would change at all. [As an aside, you must know, talking about the non-unique signals sent by the word 'complexion', Italians, Sicilians and Greeks were not considered 'White ' in this country?].

    Now, without even checking the numbers I am fairly confident that the countries you listed, each have far greater land area than Israel. And the rankings would be consistent with size. I believe even tiny Switzerland is twice as large as Israel. A very similar picture emerges when looking at population densities but in the reverse order. With Holland being a possible exception. In any case, Israel is diverse whether you accept it or not, and I say nothing about your decency.

    You are not a racist, but indeed a decent person, temporarily confused by human migration, a feature not a bug in the march of Mankind. Western Civilisation, as all other civilisations, is dynamic. Subject to change and renewal, not always for the good, nor always for the bad either. As to this superficial matter of skin colour, you might’ve read some recent evidence which suggests that pigmentation is the adaptation to viral episodes. Who knows? Mightn’t there be another one tomorrow and change the complexion of groups to shades unimagined today? Okay, perhaps you do not mean it that way. However, what is your true objection? Why can’t people share knowledge, know-how, and cultures in the same nation? I am not one to propose bland uniformity the world across – not likely anyway – but we are inexorably moving to a world where linguistic and cultural variations take second place to science, innovation and discovery aren’t we?

    [I did suggest Greg Johnson's arrangement to her, to be met by the all too familiar cold blue stare, suggesting I not push my luck any further]

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  489. Sam Shama says:
    @Rurik

    Hahaaa. Ok, I thought so. Yes, tell that Israeli colleague of yours that I said [I'll transliterate it for you, such that you may attempt to say it]: rotsa la’asot mashu be erev ?

  490. geokat62 says:
    @Rurik

    Sam Shama – Which Hebrew words do you know? I am truly curious.

    Rurik – יהיר מייבן = Arrogant Maven

    Well done, Rurik!

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  491. Art says:
    @geokat62

    You do that, Sam. But be sure not to mention what the arrangements are in your beloved Eratz Israel, will you?

    geokat62,

    Not to worry – Gasme is moving to Israel – (health reasons – mental).

    He can no longer be surrounded by all those jack-booted Gentiles wanting to kill him. In his dreams all he sees is gas chambers. It is a childhood mental condition common to Jews, that lingers through out their life. (Only the strong can shake it.)

    Posting comments on UR is no longer relieving his foreboding and anxiety.

    It is getting to be to much. Poor boy.

    Think Peace — Art

  492. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    Yes, Google translate has a few features. Or it could’ve been a colleague. In either case, I should like to see if Rooten can transliterate what he wrote, or if his colleague [if there is one] understood my latter transliteration.