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The United States has been using lies to go to war since 1846, when Americans who believed in manifest destiny sought to expand to the Pacific Ocean at the expense of Mexico, acquiring by force of arms California and what were to become the southwestern states. In 1898 the U.S. picked up the pieces of a dying Spanish Empire in a war that was driven by American imperialists and the yellow dog reporting of the Hearst Newspaper chain. And then came World War 1, World War 2, and Korea, all avoidable and all enabled by deliberate lying coming out of Washington.

More recently, we have seen Vietnam with its Gulf of Tonkin fabrication, Granada and Panama with palpably ridiculous pretexts for war, Iraq with its nonexistent weapons of mass destruction, Afghanistan with its lies about bin Laden, Libya and its false claims about Gaddafi, and most recently Syria and Iran with allegations of an Iranian threat to the United States and lies about Syrian use of barrel bombs and chemical weapons. And if one adds in the warnings to Russia over Ukraine, a conflict generated by Washington when it brought about regime change in Kiev, you have a tissue of lies that span the globe and bring with them never-ending conflict to advance the American imperium.

So lies go with the American Way of War, but the latest twist and turns in the Middle East are bizarre even by Washington’s admittedly low standards of rectitude. On the 5th of June, Saudi Arabia led a gaggle of Arab and Muslim nations that included the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Bahrain to cut off all diplomatic, commercial and transport links with Qatar, effectively blockading it. Qatar is currently isolated from its neighbors, subject to sanctions, and there have even been Saudi threats of going to war against its tiny neighbor. Salman al-Ansari, the president of the Saudi American Public Relation Affairs Committee, even tweeted: “To the emir of Qatar, regarding your alignment with the extremist government of Iran and your abuse of the Custodian of the two sacred mosques, I would like to remind you that Mohammed Morsi [of Egypt] did exactly the same and was then toppled and imprisoned.”

It is the second time the Saudis have moved against Qatar. Two years ago, there was a break in diplomatic relations, but they were eventually restored. This time, the principal allegation being directed against Qatar by Riyadh is that it supports terrorism. The terrorist groups that it allegedly embraces are Hamas, Hezbollah and the Muslim Brotherhood, Morsi’s affiliation. Hezbollah and Hamas are close to Iran which is perhaps the real reason for their being singled out as many would call them resistance movements or even legitimate political parties rather than terrorists. And the Iran connection is critical as Qatar has been under fire for allegedly saying nice things about trying to respect and get along with Tehran, undoubtedly somewhat motivated by its joint exploitation with Iran of a vast gas field in the Persian Gulf.

Qatar’s ownership of al-Jazeera also has been a sore point with the Saudis and other Gulf states as its reporting has often been critical of developments in the region, criticisms that have often rankled the Saudi monarchy and the Egyptians. It has been accused of spreading propaganda for “militant groups.” One of the Saudi demands to permit Qatar to again become a “normal” Arab Gulf state would be to close down the network.

The terrorism claims by the Saudis are, of course, hypocritical. Both Qatar and Saudi Arabia are well known as sponsors of Salafist terrorism, including the funding and arming of groups like ISIS and the various al-Qaeda franchises, to include al-Nusra. Much of the money admittedly comes from private individuals and is often channeled through Islamic charities, but both Qatar and Saudi Arabia have been extremely lax in their enforcement of anti-terror and money laundering regulations. In a 2009 State Department memo signed off on by Hillary Clinton it was stated that “donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide.” Qatar, meanwhile, has been described as a “permissive environment for terrorist financing.”

The Saudis also have considerable blood on their hands by way of their genocidal assault on neighboring Yemen. In addition, the Saudi Royal House has served as the principal propagator of Wahhabism, the virulently fundamentalist version of Islam that provides a form of religious legitimacy to terror while also motivating many young Muslims to join radical groups.

The falling out of two Gulf Arab regimes might be a matter of relatively little importance but for the unnecessary intervention of President Donald Trump in the quarrel. He has taken credit for the burgeoning conflict, implying that his recent visit to the region set the stage for the ostracizing of Qatar. His twitter on the affair, posted on June 6th, read ““So good to see the Saudi Arabia visit with the King and 50 countries already paying off. They said they would take a hard line on funding extremism, and all reference was pointing to Qatar. Perhaps this will be the beginning of the end to the horror of terrorism!” And he again came down on Qatar on June 9th during a press conference.

Trump’s tweets might well be regarded as simply maladroit, driven by ignorance, but they could also provide a glimpse of a broader agenda. While in the Middle East, Trump was bombarded with anti-Iranian propaganda coming from both Israel and the Saudis. An escalation of hostilities with the intention of starting an actual war involving the United States to take down Iran is not unimaginable, particularly as the Israelis, who have already endorsed the Saudi moves, have been arguing that option and lying about the threat posed by Tehran for a number of years.

A war against Iran would be very popular both with the U.S. congress and the mainstream media, so it would be easy to sell to the American public. The terrorist attack in Tehran on June 6th that killed 17 is being blamed in some Iranian circles on the Saudis, a not unreasonable assumption. ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attack but it must also be observed that both the Saudis and Israelis have good connections with the terrorist group. But if the possibility of a possible Saudi hand is true or even plausibly so, it guarantees a rise in tension and an incident at sea could easily be contrived by either side to escalate into a shooting war. The United States would almost inevitably be drawn in, particularly in light of Trump’s ridiculous comment on the tragedy, tweeting that Iran is“falling victim to the evil they promote.”

There is also other considerable collateral damage to be reckoned with as a consequence of the Trump intervention even if war can be avoided. Qatar hosts the al-Udeid airbase, the largest in the Middle East, which is home to 10,000 U.S. servicemen and serves as the Combined Air and Space Operations Center for Washington and its allies in the region and beyond. Now the United States finds itself squarely in the middle of a fight between two alleged friends that it doesn’t have to involve itself in, an intervention that will produce nothing but bad results. Backing Saudi Arabia in this quarrel serves no conceivable American interest, particularly if the ultimate objective is to strike at a non-threatening Iran. So the fallback position is to lie about what the support for the aggressive Saudi posturing really means – it is alleged to be about terrorism, which is always a popular excuse for government overreach.

And the ultimate irony is that when it comes to terrorism the United States itself does not emerge without fault. As early as 2011, the U.S. was arming Syrian dissidents from the arsenals in Libya, flying in weapons to Turkey to hand over to the rebels. Many of the weapons, as well as those provided to Iraqi forces, have wound up in the hands of ISIS and al-Nusrah. U.S. advisers training rebels have conceded that it is impossible to determine the politics of many of those receiving instruction and weapons, an observation that has also been made by the Obama White House and by his State Department.

So watch the lies if you want to know when the next war is coming. If the House of Saud, the Israelis and Donald Trump are talking trash and seem to agree about something then it is time to head for the bomb shelter. Will it be Iran or an escalating catastrophe in Syria? Anything is possible.

 
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  1. PG – lots of lies: no dispute, bit what were the (relevant) lies about bin Laden?

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    Idiot! The lie that OBL was involved in any way in 9/11 for just one. The lie that he was killed in the Delta 6 raid in Pakistan is another.
    , @anon
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/did-george-w-bush-do-all-he-could-to-prevent-911/411175/---Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz objected that “I just don’t understand why we are beginning by talking about this one man, bin Laden.” Clarke responded that, “We are talking about a network of terrorist organizations called al-Qaeda, that happens to be led by bin Laden, and we are talking about that network because it and it alone poses an immediate and serious threat to the United States.” To which Wolfowitz replied, “Well, there are others that do as well, at least as much. Iraqi terrorism for example.”

    and more "cording to Eichenwald’s sources, “the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat.”

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    That was the lie about Laden That was the lie
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  2. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Why doesn’t Giraldi move to Iran ?
    Thats where his concerns and allegiance are. And maybe the source of his finances also ?

    I bet they would love a chubby bear like him.

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    An anonymous dim-witted nincompoop attacking the honorable and brave Mr. Giraldi for speaking the truth. The definition of cowardice, I bet.
    , @War for Blair Mountain
    Iran poses no threat to the Native Born White American Working Class.
    Your allegiance is to Greater Israel...Phil and I have 0 allegiance to Israel...Donald Trump's allegiance is to Greater Israel...and this makes Donald Trump a GOD DAM TRAITOR!!!

    Donald Trump is on the verge of igniting NUCLEAR WW3...

    Donald Trump and Melania....a filthy disgusting cockroach breeding pair....
    , @Santoculto
    Jewnonymous
    , @truthtellerAryan
    Why don't you crawl back to the ghetto that you belong?
    Why, after over two millennia of living in peace and prosperity in the land of Iran, the loudest voices for going to destroy Iran is coming from Joooies Iranians who have left Iran after the revolution? If they can't pinch a penny from you, you become their enemy. Has their lived such a treacherous bunch?
    It's greedy Zionists like you that end up putting the whole tribe in trouble
    , @truthtellerAryan
    It is official that loving America more than Zionists and Israel is anti-America. How embarrassing, that you see some of our cuck politicians wear flag lapels on their suits with both the Zionist and American flags as one. Treason or patriotism? We've already seen symbolically, the swearing of allegiance to this treacherous "shitty" nation by these so called "patriots"
    , @Wally
    Why doesn't anon move to "that shitty little country", Israel?
    , @Andrew Nichos
    Ignorant chicken hiding behind a pseudonym.
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  3. MSB says:

    This article is still in need of some editing. At times it is unclear, or implies the opposite of what the author intended. For example: “Hezbollah and Hamas are close to Iran which is perhaps the real reason for their being singled out as many would not call them resistance movements or even legitimate political parties rather than terrorists.” The “not” should be removed.

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    Done! Thanks for catching it!
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  4. Hi PG, could our commander-in-chief have had ulterior reasons to cook up the ostracizing of Qatar?

    https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_593d6691e4b0c5a35ca06118/amp

    Mind you, we have these obese brainless stooges who would dance to any tune as long as they’re assured they’ll still be in power comes tomorrow. Now the assurance has also been approved by the masters, DJT is in deeply with the Ziocons . When our masters accomplish this mission, than we’ll again be led to the next one. The Ayrabs don’t seem to get it yet. They’ll all end up in the Zionists slaughterhouse
    It seems Gen. Clark was right, just a little diversion here.
    What will become of the average Goy?

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  5. Let me commend Mr. Giraldi for another excellent contribution. The Saudi regime is the chief enemy of civilization and those backing it are tarred with the same brush. It is disappointing to see Trump taken in by the deep state love of the Saudi barbarians.

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    "The Saudi regime is the chief enemy of civilization..."

    Looks like you have a problem with reading comprehension.

    Read the first two paragraphs again, and then review who is indeed the Chief enemy of civilisation.
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  6. Miro23 says:

    So watch the lies if you want to know when the next war is coming. If the House of Saud, the Israelis and Donald Trump are talking trash and seem to agree about something then it is time to head for the bomb shelter. Will it be Iran or an escalating catastrophe in Syria? Anything is possible.

    A fine article, and the answer to all this surely lies with the US.

    If Trump had pulled out of Middle East conflicts (as he was elected to do), all this talk would be much less dangerous. Israel and Saudi Arabia aren’t going to attack Iran on their own.

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  7. Lot says:

    So many lies in America-hating Philip Giraldi’s article, hard to know where to begin. The first lie is literally in the first sentence of the article:

    The United States has been using lies to go to war since 1846, when Americans who believed in manifest destiny sought to expand to the Pacific Ocean at the expense of Mexico

    The Mexican-American War was provoked by Mexico, which refused to recognize the independence and annexation of Texas, even though the rest of the world and the vast majority of Texans were English speakers who supported joining the USA.

    Not only did it provoke the war generally, it fired the first shots, killing 11 of 70 American in a surprise attack with 2000 Mexican soldiers.

    The Saudis also have considerable blood on their hands by way of their genocidal assault on neighboring Yemen.

    There is nothing “genocidal” about the Saudis supporting the elected government of Yemen against Iran-funded rebels. The UN estimates 100 civilians are killed per month during the war, and that includes all three sides. Source http://bigstory.ap.org/article/43471432a8e949a7af6fc56928284d78/top-un-official-10000-civilians-killed-yemen-conflict

    This in a nation of 25 million. That is just about the least bloody civil war I’ve heard of. But Giraldi calls it “genocide” because he is a lying propagandist who hates America and wants to defame the side of the civil war we support.

    Finally, no surprise that Giraldi supports Qatar, funder of the Muslim Brotherhood and supporter of the Sharia-imposing former Morsi government of Egypt and the increasingly totalitarian Islamic dictatorship in Turkey.

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    The Mexican-American War was provoked by Mexico, which refused to recognize the independence and annexation of Texas, even though the rest of the world and the vast majority of Texans were English speakers who supported joining the USA.
     
    Nah, it was provoked by the concept of manifest destiny.

    Mexico had more right to Tejas than the Zionist gangsters have to Palestine.
    , @David
    You're displaying poor moral character to call the author America-hating.
    , @Dutch Boy
    Quite correct. Polk wanted to buy the eventual Mexican Cession, not conquer it.
    , @chris

    There is nothing “genocidal” about the Saudis supporting the elected government of Yemen against Iran-funded rebels
     
    The "elected government of Yemen," of course, featured exactly ONE candidate who won with a 100% of the vote, supported by Hillary Clinton, in 2012!

    And if the elected "leader" of Yemen fled to the KSA why is he any more legitimate than the president of Ukraine who was overthrown by a US-funded revolution and fled to Russia?
    , @Joy
    Legitimate govt of Yemen? Where do you get it?
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  8. As some what of an aside, on the issue of US lie-started wars: I agree with the author’s list except for WW II.
    Yes, the Pacific war was essentially lie-started & possibly unnecessary. However, whatever lies were used for the European war, it’s a mute question as to the necessity of US involvement. Essentially, US interests were directly affected by either a Nazi or Soviet victory. Either victory would likely have placed the people & resources of Europe/ western Russia under the control of dubious regimes: there must be strong arguments to justify US European engagement.

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    "I agree with the author’s list except for WW II." You need to go back and read real history facts . Versailles agreement 1917 which gave Poland large part of Germany. Polocks were terrorizing the native Germans and all the Jews. WWII was instigated by USA--Creation of Israel.
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  9. It’s The Art of the War Deal.

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  10. Phil

    Texas belongs to America not Mexico. And this means the mass expulsion of the Mexican demographic Fifth Column out of Texas…and many other parts of the US.

    You can always pack up and go live in Mexico.

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    You can always pack up and go live in Mexico.
     
    Why bother, if they're all coming here anyway?
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  11. Trump has been captured by the Deep State and the mainstream Zio-media.

    First, the implacable Left-Hollywood-Zionist axis unnerved, abused, and punked Trump out. Then they and their minions harassed and spooked him. Insurrection was in the air–ever as the President was being sworn into office!

    Has any newly-elected president has ever been treated so disdainfully and with such widespread contempt?

    It was very unsettling.

    Then Trump blinked. After that he caved.

    Now he is moving rapidly ‘towards the center’. Unfortunately, this ‘centrism’ will require a Mideast war.

    The Donald has morphed. He is now part neocon and part Wall St. errand-boy.

    Trump–who campaigned on a populist, pro-American, non-interventionist platform–has his new, improved sights set on toppling/destabilizing Iran, Syria and Lebanon. Haven’t we seen this song and dance before?

    Yes we have, despite the fact that these distant, non-nuclear states do not threaten US interests and do not threaten US security in any way, shape, or form.

    Huge lies have become ‘facts’.

    Russia’s alleged influence in our presidential election, for instance, is not even a fraction of what Israel can impose almost effortlessly.

    The hysteria over ‘Russian interference’ is a complete fabrication. This very accusation turns reality upside down. But it persists

    What’s going on?

    These illusions are pure Zionist subterfuge. Trump’s now their boy.

    The wall with Mexico will just have to wait; as will Trump’s infrastructure build. Gotta take out Assad first! After all, Syria shares a disputed border with Israel. That’s important!

    First up: Israel’s foes. (Syria, Iran and Russia.)

    But who cares?

    Why should this matter?

    As Bibi Netanyahu observed: “America can be moved”.

    And Bibi’s quite right.

    Therefore, Trump’s pro-Zionist militancy is being sold as something else (‘war on terror’) even though it is being championed by the usual Zionist cheerleaders in media and in government.

    Pro-Zionist alliances however radiate in odd directions. This explains Washington’s (and our news media’s) rising love affair with the House of Saud.

    Note that the Saudi Royals 1) have totally accepted Israel, 2) have absolutely nothing negative to say (or do) regarding Israel’s subjugation of Palestine, 3) are hostile to Iran (like Israel), and 4) are willing also to accept the Kingdoms’s second-tier military status vis-a-vis Israel.

    For these reasons, the authoritarian, undemocratic, and terror-funding Royal Saudi family is totally ‘in sync’ with Zio-Washington. The Saudis are even safe from any potential US-Israeli destabilization campaign. (At least for now.)

    But alliances can change rapidly, especially when anti-Zionist regimes rise and persist. Then they get targeted. (See: ‘Saddam’s Iraq’. See: ‘Gadaffi’s Libya’.)

    Up next: Syria, Lebanon and Iran.

    In any case, US aid will flow immensely, unconditionally and without interruption to glorious ‘democratic’ Israel.

    BTW- while it’s widely known (and continuously recalled) that Hearst and his newspapers promoted the Spanish-American war (as Mr. Giraldi notes above) what’s been mostly forgotten is that Hearst and his newspapers largely opposed Washington’s entry into both WWI and WWII. ‘Citizen Kane’ and the endless array of Hearst-bashing references ignore this neglected yet significant fact.

    In fact, it was none other than Joseph Pulitzer (for whom the pretentious and politicized journalistic prizes are named) whose newspapers helped spearhead the international campaign for America’s unnecessary and tragic entry into WWI.

    Pulitzer was as influential as Hearst–and every bit as sensational. But Pulitzer was both anti-German and very pro-US-intervention in Europe.

    Unlike Hearst, Pulitzer demonized Imperial Germany long before the Great War began and it was Pulitzer–not Hearst–who helped sanitize America’s pre-war efforts (before WWII) to aid the British and violate laws that sought to preserve US neutrality.

    Like Hearst, Pulitzer was an artful media demagogue; but it was Pulitzer–not Hearst–who used his skills and power to steer America into the two greatest political conflicts ever seen. Joseph Pulitzer was also Jewish.

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    ...what’s been mostly forgotten is that Hearst and his newspapers largely opposed Washington’s entry into both WWI and WWII. ‘Citizen Kane’ and the endless array of Hearst-bashing references ignore this neglected yet significant fact.
     
    Very, very true, and funny how that works. In the same way Charles Lindbergh, because of his opposition to entering WW2, has been egregiously smeared as an "anti-Semite" and the charge still sticks to this day.

    Thanks for pointing that out, and informing us about Poo-litzer.
    , @ANON
    Well I have to thank you for prompting me to read up on Joseph Pulitzer''s remarkable career but I can't commend your attention to detail or recommend you as a source of accurate information to others.

    There is a slight problem about your blaming him for being (before WW1) "pro US intervention in Eutope" having "demonized Imperial Germany" and then that he "helped sanitize American efforts (pre WW2) to help the British". *He died in 1911*.

    Interesting to compare Pulitzer's great career with that of another Central European Jew who immigrated with no English but built a popular newspaper empire. Both served in the armed corces of their adopted country. The other is that appalling rogue Robert Maxwell.

    , @Z-man
    True, thank you and depressing, but hope springs eternal and I'm hoping Trump still has some independent thought and some patriotism and patriots behind him!
    , @Rurik

    Note that the Saudi Royals 1) have totally accepted Israel, 2) have absolutely nothing negative to say (or do) regarding Israel’s subjugation of Palestine, 3) are hostile to Iran (like Israel), and 4) are willing also to accept the Kingdoms’s second-tier military status vis-a-vis Israel.

    For these reasons, the authoritarian, undemocratic, and terror-funding Royal Saudi family is totally ‘in sync’ with Zio-Washington. The Saudis are even safe from any potential US-Israeli destabilization campaign. (At least for now.)

     

    to understand the Saudi leadership, you need only see how they got along with Iran during the reign of the Shah; a Zio/Anglo quisling installed after the CIA putsch that removed the legitimate, democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27état

    Under the quisling puppet Shah, Iran was terrorized by a CIA/Mossad run organization notorious for its torture methods.

    Time magazine described SAVAK as having "long been Iran's most hated and feared institution" which had "tortured and murdered thousands of the Shah's opponents."[24] The Federation of American Scientists also found it guilty of "the torture and execution of thousands of political prisoners" and symbolizing "the Shah's rule from 1963–79." The FAS list of SAVAK torture methods included "electric shock, whipping, beating, inserting broken glass and pouring boiling water into the rectum, tying weights to the testicles, and the extraction of teeth and nails."[25]
     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK

    it was during this reign of Zionist and Anglo terror that the corrupt House of Saud got along wonderfully with the Shah's Zio-Iran. Here you see the king of Saudi Arabia dancing for the amusement of the treacherous little Shah:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYIft-_FcYQ

    - who exhorted the rulers of Saudi Arabia to embrace the cultural and spiritual sewage of the Zio-West thus:

    "Please, my brother, modernize. Open up your country. Make the schools mixed women and men. Let women wear miniskirts. Have discos. Be modern. Otherwise I cannot guarantee you will stay on your throne."[15]
     

    as long as Iran was under the thrall of the Fiend, the Saudi were their bestest buddies ever. They were also bestest buddies with Israel and England and the ZUSA.

    so much treachery and evil and oppression and murder and torture.. it makes the head spin.

    anyways, what do you expect from a fiend, I guess

    so today the Saudis are still under the thrall of the same Fiend, but Iran is not. Hence Saudi Arabia assassinates Shia clerics it doesn't like, and Iran gets blamed for human rights violations.

    The lies and mendacity and treachery are nearly beyond comprehension. The Saudis toss their fellow Arabs in Palestine under the Zionist bus, and fund and foment ISIS to crucify Christians and burn men alive. The stark divisions between good and evil (if there are such concepts) could hardly be more glaring.

    and yet the Zio-fiend has Trump making nice with the murderous, terrorist-funding Saudis, while saber rattling at the peaceful and civilized Iran.


    great article yet again Mr. Giraldi !

    , @truthtellerAryan
    Hi Mark Green, well observed. The Arabs are so blinded by money, so lost in Zionist tricks, are tripping in their own stupidity. One of the largest ethnic-religious groups in the world, wealthy, but as dumb as a door nail, as Edward Said once said "they are a sorry lot", haven't yet grasped how they're accommodating their own demise. Ironically, they're are paying for all expenses that will finish them, at least send them to dark ages.
    They don't see how they're being played by their half-brothers. I guess treachery is in the blood.....
    , @Man on the street
    Pulitzer was a Jew? It appears to me that 80% of all opinion makers, rich, experts, and famous people are Jews. Doing the math for a segment of our population that is only 2%; it illustrate overrepresentation of unbelievable if not criminal level. If 2% are allowed to eat 99% of the pie, the great majority of people should object at the degree of unfairness, except, in our case the great majority of the population have no access to the mega microphone.
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  12. @Lot
    So many lies in America-hating Philip Giraldi's article, hard to know where to begin. The first lie is literally in the first sentence of the article:

    The United States has been using lies to go to war since 1846, when Americans who believed in manifest destiny sought to expand to the Pacific Ocean at the expense of Mexico
     
    The Mexican-American War was provoked by Mexico, which refused to recognize the independence and annexation of Texas, even though the rest of the world and the vast majority of Texans were English speakers who supported joining the USA.

    Not only did it provoke the war generally, it fired the first shots, killing 11 of 70 American in a surprise attack with 2000 Mexican soldiers.


    The Saudis also have considerable blood on their hands by way of their genocidal assault on neighboring Yemen.
     
    There is nothing "genocidal" about the Saudis supporting the elected government of Yemen against Iran-funded rebels. The UN estimates 100 civilians are killed per month during the war, and that includes all three sides. Source http://bigstory.ap.org/article/43471432a8e949a7af6fc56928284d78/top-un-official-10000-civilians-killed-yemen-conflict

    This in a nation of 25 million. That is just about the least bloody civil war I've heard of. But Giraldi calls it "genocide" because he is a lying propagandist who hates America and wants to defame the side of the civil war we support.

    Finally, no surprise that Giraldi supports Qatar, funder of the Muslim Brotherhood and supporter of the Sharia-imposing former Morsi government of Egypt and the increasingly totalitarian Islamic dictatorship in Turkey.

    The Mexican-American War was provoked by Mexico, which refused to recognize the independence and annexation of Texas, even though the rest of the world and the vast majority of Texans were English speakers who supported joining the USA.

    Nah, it was provoked by the concept of manifest destiny.

    Mexico had more right to Tejas than the Zionist gangsters have to Palestine.

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    Mexico had more right to Tejas than the Zionist gangsters have to Palestine.
     
    Neither group has any claim to the land. Mexico invited the Americans into Texas, primarily because Mexico could not deal with the Comanche who lived in Texas and raided both Texas and Mexico. Mexico then lost the war against the Texans and lost all claim to Texas.

    Much of the SW, though claimed by Mexico was controlled by either the Comanche or the Apache.

    Those tribes might have a claim, but Mexico has none.
    , @MarkinLA
    Mexico lost Texas because Santa Anna made himself a dictator and caused revolts all around Mexico. The Texans just happened to win. Mexico was trying to raise an army to retake it when the US annexed Texas.

    Mexico made the stupid mistakes. Mexico knew the US wanted Texas and California. Mexico had rejected offers to buy them. Mexico should have done everything it could to avoid giving the US a chance to grab them.
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  13. LondonBob says:

    The Israeli and Saudi lobbies, and associated actors, seem to have had some success. I still don’t see it going much further, Trump instinctively doesn’t want another Iraq on his watch whatever the likes of Mattis etc. wish to engineer.

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    As if Trump has a choice...
    "...the global power of Finance, which is gnawing away like cancer at the body of the human race."
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/14/the-rise-of-a-genuine-left-in-britain-and-its-implications-for-the-middle-east/
    If the "flexible" Bernie is a face of the American left (an opposition to the Empire of FedReserve), then the world is defenseless against the opportunistic "engineers." It seems that there is no other remedy against the avaricious cancerous growth but a global disaster of a nuclear war towards which the power of Finance has been pushing with mindless stubbornness of total idiots.
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  14. @Mark Green
    Trump has been captured by the Deep State and the mainstream Zio-media.

    First, the implacable Left-Hollywood-Zionist axis unnerved, abused, and punked Trump out. Then they and their minions harassed and spooked him. Insurrection was in the air--ever as the President was being sworn into office!

    Has any newly-elected president has ever been treated so disdainfully and with such widespread contempt?

    It was very unsettling.

    Then Trump blinked. After that he caved.

    Now he is moving rapidly 'towards the center'. Unfortunately, this 'centrism' will require a Mideast war.

    The Donald has morphed. He is now part neocon and part Wall St. errand-boy.

    Trump--who campaigned on a populist, pro-American, non-interventionist platform--has his new, improved sights set on toppling/destabilizing Iran, Syria and Lebanon. Haven't we seen this song and dance before?

    Yes we have, despite the fact that these distant, non-nuclear states do not threaten US interests and do not threaten US security in any way, shape, or form.

    Huge lies have become 'facts'.

    Russia's alleged influence in our presidential election, for instance, is not even a fraction of what Israel can impose almost effortlessly.

    The hysteria over 'Russian interference' is a complete fabrication. This very accusation turns reality upside down. But it persists

    What's going on?

    These illusions are pure Zionist subterfuge. Trump's now their boy.

    The wall with Mexico will just have to wait; as will Trump's infrastructure build. Gotta take out Assad first! After all, Syria shares a disputed border with Israel. That's important!

    First up: Israel's foes. (Syria, Iran and Russia.)

    But who cares?

    Why should this matter?

    As Bibi Netanyahu observed: "America can be moved".

    And Bibi's quite right.

    Therefore, Trump's pro-Zionist militancy is being sold as something else ('war on terror') even though it is being championed by the usual Zionist cheerleaders in media and in government.

    Pro-Zionist alliances however radiate in odd directions. This explains Washington's (and our news media's) rising love affair with the House of Saud.

    Note that the Saudi Royals 1) have totally accepted Israel, 2) have absolutely nothing negative to say (or do) regarding Israel's subjugation of Palestine, 3) are hostile to Iran (like Israel), and 4) are willing also to accept the Kingdoms's second-tier military status vis-a-vis Israel.

    For these reasons, the authoritarian, undemocratic, and terror-funding Royal Saudi family is totally 'in sync' with Zio-Washington. The Saudis are even safe from any potential US-Israeli destabilization campaign. (At least for now.)

    But alliances can change rapidly, especially when anti-Zionist regimes rise and persist. Then they get targeted. (See: 'Saddam's Iraq'. See: 'Gadaffi's Libya'.)

    Up next: Syria, Lebanon and Iran.

    In any case, US aid will flow immensely, unconditionally and without interruption to glorious 'democratic' Israel.

    BTW- while it's widely known (and continuously recalled) that Hearst and his newspapers promoted the Spanish-American war (as Mr. Giraldi notes above) what's been mostly forgotten is that Hearst and his newspapers largely opposed Washington's entry into both WWI and WWII. 'Citizen Kane' and the endless array of Hearst-bashing references ignore this neglected yet significant fact.

    In fact, it was none other than Joseph Pulitzer (for whom the pretentious and politicized journalistic prizes are named) whose newspapers helped spearhead the international campaign for America's unnecessary and tragic entry into WWI.

    Pulitzer was as influential as Hearst--and every bit as sensational. But Pulitzer was both anti-German and very pro-US-intervention in Europe.

    Unlike Hearst, Pulitzer demonized Imperial Germany long before the Great War began and it was Pulitzer--not Hearst--who helped sanitize America's pre-war efforts (before WWII) to aid the British and violate laws that sought to preserve US neutrality.

    Like Hearst, Pulitzer was an artful media demagogue; but it was Pulitzer--not Hearst--who used his skills and power to steer America into the two greatest political conflicts ever seen. Joseph Pulitzer was also Jewish.

    …what’s been mostly forgotten is that Hearst and his newspapers largely opposed Washington’s entry into both WWI and WWII. ‘Citizen Kane’ and the endless array of Hearst-bashing references ignore this neglected yet significant fact.

    Very, very true, and funny how that works. In the same way Charles Lindbergh, because of his opposition to entering WW2, has been egregiously smeared as an “anti-Semite” and the charge still sticks to this day.

    Thanks for pointing that out, and informing us about Poo-litzer.

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    What's wrong with being an "anti-semite"?
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  15. @anon
    Why doesn't Giraldi move to Iran ?
    Thats where his concerns and allegiance are. And maybe the source of his finances also ?

    I bet they would love a chubby bear like him.

    An anonymous dim-witted nincompoop attacking the honorable and brave Mr. Giraldi for speaking the truth. The definition of cowardice, I bet.

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  16. All in accord with the rest of the Israeli Likudnik Oded Yinon neocon plan vs Iran which Netanyahu’s Israel AIPAC agent Kushner has duped the Saudis into supporting as well because of their Sunni vs Shia hatred of Iran:

    http://america-hijacked.com/2014/07/13/the-unfolding-of-yinons-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east-the-crisis-in-iraq-and-the-centrality-of-the-national-interest-of-israel/

    Netanyahu’s Israel 1st AIPAC agent Kushner has Trump pushing Israel Lobby agenda vs Syria as well:

    http://america-hijacked.com/2012/02/12/israel-lobby-pushes-for-us-action-against-the-syrian-government/

    No surprise when pandering Hillary Clinton pushed Syrian regime change for Israel’s sake as well:

    http://america-hijacked.com/2016/03/22/clinton-email-shows-us-sought-syria-regime-change-for-israels-sake/

    So ISIS attacks Europe and US because of Israel:

    CIA’s Mike Scheuer on ISIS:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHwp7uwK6bc

    CIA’s Mike Scheuer on terrorism motivation ignored by US media:

    Petraeus & CENTCOM warned of Israel threat as well:

    http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/mehdi-hasan/2010/07/general-petraeus-israel-emails

    Israel as terrorism motivation for San Bernardino ignored by US media as well:

    http://mondoweiss.net/2015/12/reported-politely-ignores/

    Paul Findley: The High Cost of Subservience to Israel:

    http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/articles/article0064805.html

    See Dutch AIPAC documentary via following Youtube:

    So no surprise when Netanyahu said US is easily manipulated at following URL:

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2010/07/18/netanyahu-us-easily-manipulated

    George Washington must be rolling in his grave for pandering US politicians who ignore his Farewell Address warning at following URL:

    http://astandforjustice.org/#washington

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    Just noticed that the youtube for Michael Scheuer's CNN interview with Smerconish about ISIS didn't go through in prior post! Following one should:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHwp7uwK6bE
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  17. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @exiled off mainstreet
    Let me commend Mr. Giraldi for another excellent contribution. The Saudi regime is the chief enemy of civilization and those backing it are tarred with the same brush. It is disappointing to see Trump taken in by the deep state love of the Saudi barbarians.

    “The Saudi regime is the chief enemy of civilization…”

    Looks like you have a problem with reading comprehension.

    Read the first two paragraphs again, and then review who is indeed the Chief enemy of civilisation.

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    Your comment implies the US is the real problem, but the Neocons/AIPAC/Zionists "own" the US so the real culprit is -- to state it bluntly --"the Jews". And for those who would say the little Jews, like little people everywhere -- ordinary, "man on the street" type people -- aren't involved in the crimes of the rich/powerful/ruthless Jews -- aren't responsible -- I have to point out that the little Jews admire and support their "important" -- ie rich and powerful -- tribal fellows. To be fair, part of that support is due to cultural/tribal indoctrination (brainwashing?), but ethics-free-tribal loyalty accounts for most of it. (A hopeful sign: Many younger Jews are learning, courtesy of the internet, to see past the Zionist brainwashing.)

    If the pattern of 5000 years holds -- and 5000 years suggests a very robust pattern -- then the Jews will yet again suffer the reaction that comes from their arrogant, abusive overreach. When 300 million non-Jewish Americans finally realize how they have been turned into Israel's poodle -- insulted, exploited, and looted in the process -- there will be hell to pay.

    I'm an American and a Jew. Do I issue this assessment-slash-warning, that it might wake up my fellow Jews to the danger before it's too late? No. I firmly believe it will not help. They will not wake up. They never have, and I am convinced they never will. Something in the head of the Jew makes him/her blind to the problem: "We have done nothing wrong! They hate us because we are Jews!" Blind. Sad.

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  18. @AmericaFirstNow
    All in accord with the rest of the Israeli Likudnik Oded Yinon neocon plan vs Iran which Netanyahu's Israel AIPAC agent Kushner has duped the Saudis into supporting as well because of their Sunni vs Shia hatred of Iran:

    http://america-hijacked.com/2014/07/13/the-unfolding-of-yinons-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east-the-crisis-in-iraq-and-the-centrality-of-the-national-interest-of-israel/

    Netanyahu's Israel 1st AIPAC agent Kushner has Trump pushing Israel Lobby agenda vs Syria as well:

    http://america-hijacked.com/2012/02/12/israel-lobby-pushes-for-us-action-against-the-syrian-government/

    No surprise when pandering Hillary Clinton pushed Syrian regime change for Israel's sake as well:

    http://america-hijacked.com/2016/03/22/clinton-email-shows-us-sought-syria-regime-change-for-israels-sake/

    So ISIS attacks Europe and US because of Israel:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48_ZeiK5gqU

    CIA's Mike Scheuer on ISIS:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHwp7uwK6bc

    CIA's Mike Scheuer on terrorism motivation ignored by US media:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95ncn5Q16N4&list=PL3C32560738EF3C30&feature=plpp

    Petraeus & CENTCOM warned of Israel threat as well:

    http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/mehdi-hasan/2010/07/general-petraeus-israel-emails


    Israel as terrorism motivation for San Bernardino ignored by US media as well:

    http://mondoweiss.net/2015/12/reported-politely-ignores/

    Paul Findley: The High Cost of Subservience to Israel:

    http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/articles/article0064805.html

    See Dutch AIPAC documentary via following Youtube:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98

    So no surprise when Netanyahu said US is easily manipulated at following URL:

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2010/07/18/netanyahu-us-easily-manipulated

    George Washington must be rolling in his grave for pandering US politicians who ignore his Farewell Address warning at following URL:

    http://astandforjustice.org/#washington

    Just noticed that the youtube for Michael Scheuer’s CNN interview with Smerconish about ISIS didn’t go through in prior post! Following one should:

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    Unfortunately Mr. Scheuer hasn't been on TV much lately.
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  19. @anon
    Why doesn't Giraldi move to Iran ?
    Thats where his concerns and allegiance are. And maybe the source of his finances also ?

    I bet they would love a chubby bear like him.

    Iran poses no threat to the Native Born White American Working Class.
    Your allegiance is to Greater Israel…Phil and I have 0 allegiance to Israel…Donald Trump’s allegiance is to Greater Israel…and this makes Donald Trump a GOD DAM TRAITOR!!!

    Donald Trump is on the verge of igniting NUCLEAR WW3…

    Donald Trump and Melania….a filthy disgusting cockroach breeding pair….

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    Hey Happy Guy ,
    Whats the problem. Giraldi is always whining about America and praising Iran. Why should he stay here . If he likes Iran so much he should move there . Do you think Giraldi should disclose if he has received money from any Iranian entity ??
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  20. dearieme says:

    “The United States has been using lies to go to war since 1846″: 1812.

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  21. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @Mark Green
    Trump has been captured by the Deep State and the mainstream Zio-media.

    First, the implacable Left-Hollywood-Zionist axis unnerved, abused, and punked Trump out. Then they and their minions harassed and spooked him. Insurrection was in the air--ever as the President was being sworn into office!

    Has any newly-elected president has ever been treated so disdainfully and with such widespread contempt?

    It was very unsettling.

    Then Trump blinked. After that he caved.

    Now he is moving rapidly 'towards the center'. Unfortunately, this 'centrism' will require a Mideast war.

    The Donald has morphed. He is now part neocon and part Wall St. errand-boy.

    Trump--who campaigned on a populist, pro-American, non-interventionist platform--has his new, improved sights set on toppling/destabilizing Iran, Syria and Lebanon. Haven't we seen this song and dance before?

    Yes we have, despite the fact that these distant, non-nuclear states do not threaten US interests and do not threaten US security in any way, shape, or form.

    Huge lies have become 'facts'.

    Russia's alleged influence in our presidential election, for instance, is not even a fraction of what Israel can impose almost effortlessly.

    The hysteria over 'Russian interference' is a complete fabrication. This very accusation turns reality upside down. But it persists

    What's going on?

    These illusions are pure Zionist subterfuge. Trump's now their boy.

    The wall with Mexico will just have to wait; as will Trump's infrastructure build. Gotta take out Assad first! After all, Syria shares a disputed border with Israel. That's important!

    First up: Israel's foes. (Syria, Iran and Russia.)

    But who cares?

    Why should this matter?

    As Bibi Netanyahu observed: "America can be moved".

    And Bibi's quite right.

    Therefore, Trump's pro-Zionist militancy is being sold as something else ('war on terror') even though it is being championed by the usual Zionist cheerleaders in media and in government.

    Pro-Zionist alliances however radiate in odd directions. This explains Washington's (and our news media's) rising love affair with the House of Saud.

    Note that the Saudi Royals 1) have totally accepted Israel, 2) have absolutely nothing negative to say (or do) regarding Israel's subjugation of Palestine, 3) are hostile to Iran (like Israel), and 4) are willing also to accept the Kingdoms's second-tier military status vis-a-vis Israel.

    For these reasons, the authoritarian, undemocratic, and terror-funding Royal Saudi family is totally 'in sync' with Zio-Washington. The Saudis are even safe from any potential US-Israeli destabilization campaign. (At least for now.)

    But alliances can change rapidly, especially when anti-Zionist regimes rise and persist. Then they get targeted. (See: 'Saddam's Iraq'. See: 'Gadaffi's Libya'.)

    Up next: Syria, Lebanon and Iran.

    In any case, US aid will flow immensely, unconditionally and without interruption to glorious 'democratic' Israel.

    BTW- while it's widely known (and continuously recalled) that Hearst and his newspapers promoted the Spanish-American war (as Mr. Giraldi notes above) what's been mostly forgotten is that Hearst and his newspapers largely opposed Washington's entry into both WWI and WWII. 'Citizen Kane' and the endless array of Hearst-bashing references ignore this neglected yet significant fact.

    In fact, it was none other than Joseph Pulitzer (for whom the pretentious and politicized journalistic prizes are named) whose newspapers helped spearhead the international campaign for America's unnecessary and tragic entry into WWI.

    Pulitzer was as influential as Hearst--and every bit as sensational. But Pulitzer was both anti-German and very pro-US-intervention in Europe.

    Unlike Hearst, Pulitzer demonized Imperial Germany long before the Great War began and it was Pulitzer--not Hearst--who helped sanitize America's pre-war efforts (before WWII) to aid the British and violate laws that sought to preserve US neutrality.

    Like Hearst, Pulitzer was an artful media demagogue; but it was Pulitzer--not Hearst--who used his skills and power to steer America into the two greatest political conflicts ever seen. Joseph Pulitzer was also Jewish.

    Well I have to thank you for prompting me to read up on Joseph Pulitzer”s remarkable career but I can’t commend your attention to detail or recommend you as a source of accurate information to others.

    There is a slight problem about your blaming him for being (before WW1) “pro US intervention in Eutope” having “demonized Imperial Germany” and then that he “helped sanitize American efforts (pre WW2) to help the British”. *He died in 1911*.

    Interesting to compare Pulitzer’s great career with that of another Central European Jew who immigrated with no English but built a popular newspaper empire. Both served in the armed corces of their adopted country. The other is that appalling rogue Robert Maxwell.

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    Joseph Pulitzer II ran the St. Louis Post Dispatch and NY World after his father's death. He was a staunch supporter of FDR.
    , @KA
    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-13/soros-s-native-hungary-approves-crackdown-on-foreign-funded-ngos

    But NYT doesn't report this socio-politically important event. It does report on the meager number of activists protesting against Putin.


    Forget about WW2 , NYT and WaPo and CNN and FOX , the entire media complex was asking for wars against Iraq, Syria,Saudi Arab, Yemen, Somalia, Libya and Sudan in 2002 . For the neocons , order of attacking was for simple reasons that attacking Iraq would resonate with hatred and anger and hubris which were generated by 911. Once the war began, the neocons had already logically figured out that the result would enable to move down ( or up) the chain to attack other countries including Iran and Pakistan ( yes Pakistan )
    Their logic was this , if wars against Iraq became success , it could be used as a template to bring democracy and destroy terrorism , to satisfy the yearning of Arab women fir freedom , to stamp out the entire terrorism even from the remotest cornets of Arab . NYT and other already was using Libya as a template few years later and Neocons were promising the spontaneous uprising of Shia against Saddam which then would galvanize Shia of Iran ( back then Shia was neocons friends and hopes - the Shia was then MEK to them , entire Shia) Soros was using color revolution as a template . Elite in media , administration, defense , and lobbyists were reminding Putin that maidan revolution ( Ukraine ) would come to Moscow.

    Returning to the logic of the neocons, if war didn't become success , then ensuing chaos could be used to ( ( a true American like Reagan would withdraw ) blame neighboring countries and attack neighboring countries, use the chaos to engineer more Salavodiran , more Harii type killings , and use the chaos to upend the order of the society .
    Either way neocon win and media keeps everything visible to the public without letting know anybody how media is entirely controlled by the neocons . Media makes sure that neither the nature and reasons of ME conflicts nor who the master is ever outed or made visible.

    While Saddam , Basher , Ahmednezad and Putin are demonized overtly crudely and eentbusustically with total consensus on tone , wording , and reasons , Trump is demonized in more legalistic , moralistic , cultural frames .

    NBC is hauled up to the public court for Megan Kelly's interview with Alex Jones but the show on Julious Caesar that overtly points to killing of a sitting president gets revune boosting covering in NYT.

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  22. See following article from Jewish Forward publication on how Netanyahu’s Israel 1st AIPAC agent Kushner (who arranged Trump’s trip to Saudi Arabia and Israel) has brought other Jewish AIPAC Israel 1sters into the White House:

    http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/359120/jared-kushners-friend-picked-by-donald-trump-as-assistant/

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    The infestations continue.
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  23. @Wizard of Oz
    PG - lots of lies: no dispute, bit what were the (relevant) lies about bin Laden?

    Idiot! The lie that OBL was involved in any way in 9/11 for just one. The lie that he was killed in the Delta 6 raid in Pakistan is another.

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    I never doubted that you think that but PG is a comparatively serious person and I wondered what he would say, choosing his words as carefully as he quite often seems to. Come to think of it I think he's been caught out being a bit careless on some of his other details this time.

    And what's your version of sbat happened at Abbotabad and why?

    , @Wizard of Oz
    Presumably you think ObL died much earlier than the Navy Seals raid. But why would Obama go along with the charade? No doubt you would say he was looking for political advantage domestically - to which of course I answer that he wouldn't be so dumb as to believe that no one would blow the whistle.

    Let's move on to whete you say the extremely long and detailed account of ObL's death in Wikipedia is wrong and say why. In particular, how come Al Qaeda and other Muslim organisations announced his death and threatened revenge?
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  24. Speaking of lies, war and the media, let us not forget the blatant lying about Stalin’s crimes by Walter Duranty published in the New York Times for which the scumbag was awarded a prize by Pulitzer, another Red Millionaire.

    It took the Times around half a century to begin to publicly admit to its callous malfeasance, yet apparently..

    The Pulitzer board has twice declined to withdraw the award, most recently in November 2003, finding “no clear and convincing evidence of deliberate deception” in the 1931 reporting that won the prize (see Pulitzer Board statement), and The Times does not have the award in its possession.

    - New York Times Statement About 1932 Pulitzer Prize Awarded to Walter Duranty

    http://www.nytco.com/new-york-times-statement-about-1932-pulitzer-prize-awarded-to-walter-duranty/

    Also note that in the statement, they deceitfully attempt to shift the responsibility for dirtball reporting on the effects of Soviet censorship, which though real, is no excuse for their mendacity.

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  25. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Looks like the Saudis have pretty much bought us off with their ridiculously large arms purchases and other ways of sending their billions our way. Money talks. The other stuff is just window dressing. We’re their hired help and security guard.

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    Looks like the Saudis have pretty much bought us off with their ridiculously large arms purchases and other ways of sending their billions our way. Money talks. The other stuff is just window dressing. We’re their hired help and security guard.
     
    Ah but there's the rub, and a good one, as the die hard Zionists in the US Congress, isn't that redundant, are already complaining about the deal. http://www.defensenews.com/articles/us-senate-democrats-rallying-votes-against-saudi-arms-sale
    Hopefully the rats will kill themselves!

    Theres also this from 'Up Chuck' Schumer;
    http://www.defensenews.com/articles/schumer-to-oppose-smart-bomb-sale-to-saudi-arabia

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  26. Phil

    Seriously…1846 is not relevant….and anyone who thinks it is in the context of opposing the ongoing war against Christian Russia and Shia Muslim Iran is not really a serious anti-war critic…..You need to deal with the fact that many of us here on Unz Review do not suffer from even a speck of White Guilt….even Old Noam Chomsky likes his precious Israel Jew only….which is the reason why Noam and Norman Finklestien are opposed to the right of return for Palestinians…

    So be a good phenomenologist and remember that context is everything…

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  27. @MSB
    This article is still in need of some editing. At times it is unclear, or implies the opposite of what the author intended. For example: "Hezbollah and Hamas are close to Iran which is perhaps the real reason for their being singled out as many would not call them resistance movements or even legitimate political parties rather than terrorists." The "not" should be removed.

    Done! Thanks for catching it!

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    Now that I have your attention PG allow me to ask you your opinion of Taki's take on the Qatar business in a very recent Takimag piece.

    In essence he invites us to believe the story of his Greek LNG tanker owner friend who says Qatar was being stitched up at the insistence of Trump so that the US rather than Qatar would be able to sell LNG to China. In return the Pres offered Saudi Arabia help against Iran?

    Also.... my question in #1: what was the lie sbout bin Laden relevant to attacking Afghanistan?

    BTW doesn't Ockham's razor support the view that bin Laden got exactly what he wanted from 9/11, namely the US mired in a rerun of Vietnam?

    And in case you are willing to be just a little immodest about your physics can you not agree that you only need to understand addition of vectors in old-fashioned Newtonian physics to see that it is going to be hundreds of tons of building above the initial point of collapse that dominates direction (largely vertical) rather than some asymmetry in the weaknesses of the steelwork at the collapse level. I have just spoken to a retired Oxford and Chicago physicist who confirmed that this was unquestionably correct.

    Mind you I find it equally potent to consider the idea that Larry Siverstein would have approved or arranged a controlled demolition. How could he rely on persons unknown flying planes into exactly the right levels of the towers where the demolition charges were laid? Of course he couldn't! How could he risk only one tower being hit and the other one minutely searched? And who else but Silverstein could benefit significantly from the towers being not only hit but destroyed. That wasn't necessary to get a war started in Afghanistan!

    I suspect Ron is rather enjoying the feckless opinionating on 9/11 that he hosts as he has avoided even responding to my similar questions. Likewise on the USS Liberty scandal where the critical evidence is surely any NSA intercepts that, with the Hebrew properly translated show an intention at the highest level to kill all Liberty's crew. Otherwise I tend to be impressed by the Stuart Slade version snd will remain so. Again I suspect Ron of being mischievous because the first person to cite the Slade version was responded to with "You utterly ignorant nitwit!" which struck me as affectionate joshing for an old college room mate...

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  28. Agent76 says:

    Jun 6, 2017 America’s Reign of Terror: A Nation Reaps What It Sows

    The U.S. government is creating the terror. It is, in fact, the source of the terror. Just think about it for a minute: almost every tyranny being perpetrated against the citizenry—purportedly to keep us safe and the nation secure—has come about as a result of some threat manufactured in one way or another by the U.S. government.

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  29. Agent76 says:

    Mar 22, 2017 How the CIA Plants News Stories in the Media

    It is no longer disputed that the CIA has maintained an extensive and ongoing relationship with news organizations and journalists, and multiple, specific acts of media manipulation have now been documented.

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  30. Phil

    I can tell you from first hand…personal…family reasons…that the filthy cockroach Donald Trump has very big plans to slaughter the Working Class Native Born White Christian American Male Teenager Population by using them as canon fodder for Greater Israel in a war with Shia Muslim Iran. This is Donald Trump’s MAGA JOBS PROGRAM….post-Gruman Corp MAGA rally a year ago…

    Trump is as much of a filthy repellent cockroach as Hillary and Bill Clinton.

    It looks like Trump’s red hat MAGA HAT WEARING CHICKENHAWK WARHAWK JOCKSNIFFING White Male Voting Bloc Cucks…and they are most definitely CUCKS who deserve to have the shit beat out of them….have given Trump a blank check to 1)bomb Hezzbollah in Syria…and 2)bomb Shia Muslim Iran for Greater Israel…

    Donald Trump+Hillary Clinton=a “cute” post-nuclear WW3 cockroach breeding pair….a 13 billion year COCKROACH RIECH!!!

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    Now that's something. 13 billion years of COCKROACH REICK PESTILENCE!

    Who or what is underlying the common denominator that makes it compelling to work so hard to bring about the ideal conditions for the Cockroach infestation that will grow after the Nuclear conflagration that is the fruit of Heimy science? (Poison/long half-lives.)

    Or, what is the correlation in DNA of the Cockroach and some humanoids? Ever think of that?

    God…(as he may be understood,) or not, has infinity to work it out, and one lead that should be gone into could be where (from a concept called ''Morphic Resonance'' which posits that within DNA code there is much dormant potentiality, that also can be shown to tie together various diverse life forms.

    INO's, some of the humans are… in effect analogous to David Icke's ideas about lizards, or like… the Bodysnatchers concept of long ago SF movies, (the one with Kevin McCarthy in BW was good).

    The proclivities of, or the fruits of, the Drift… The point aimed at by some people!

    They seem to want to reset Earth to another beginning. A CockRoach Reich!

    Thanks for the idea!
    , @Anonymous
    This diatribe refers to the fact that a nephew of War for Blair Mountains has joined his college ROTC program.

    Blair Mountain disapproved of the nephew's enrollment in ROTC. Blair Mountain does not realize the draft ended more than 40 years ago. No rational person could blame Mrs Trump for his nephew's decision.
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  31. @NoseytheDuke
    Idiot! The lie that OBL was involved in any way in 9/11 for just one. The lie that he was killed in the Delta 6 raid in Pakistan is another.

    I never doubted that you think that but PG is a comparatively serious person and I wondered what he would say, choosing his words as carefully as he quite often seems to. Come to think of it I think he’s been caught out being a bit careless on some of his other details this time.

    And what’s your version of sbat happened at Abbotabad and why?

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    I could answer that for you but It would require a hammer drill and a masonry bit for it to get through so believe what you like. You can file it along with all of the other fantasies that you harbour, an enormous file without a doubt.

    Did you ever forward a pic to Jonathan Revusky, that he might be able to use it to illustrate his HIQI concept?
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  32. nsa says:

    The jooies and their kept eunuchs in wash dc are complaining their precious US (((holocaust))) museum is only being funded with 54 million in American taxpayer funds. This underfunding is very serious as they will have to close the lampshade wing and the soap bar exhibition. Contact your congressional whore immediately and complain……..

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    Indeed, the 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

    - We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com
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  33. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Iran poses no threat to the Native Born White American Working Class.
    Your allegiance is to Greater Israel...Phil and I have 0 allegiance to Israel...Donald Trump's allegiance is to Greater Israel...and this makes Donald Trump a GOD DAM TRAITOR!!!

    Donald Trump is on the verge of igniting NUCLEAR WW3...

    Donald Trump and Melania....a filthy disgusting cockroach breeding pair....

    Hey Happy Guy ,
    Whats the problem. Giraldi is always whining about America and praising Iran. Why should he stay here . If he likes Iran so much he should move there . Do you think Giraldi should disclose if he has received money from any Iranian entity ??

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    Well now...first of all,....I want to greet you with a great big FUCK OFF!!!....Dearest Ivanka...


    The target of Phil's venom are the Jewish Neocons....and non-Jewish Neocons:The homo- cannibal General Mattis....Hannibal Lectre look-a-like General McMaster in-a-flava-bean-salad with the homo General Mattis....and the filthy cockroach breeding pair Donald Trump and his cockroach husband Hillary Clinton....and the SATANIST!!! that own and run the Military Industrial Complex.....the treasonous SATANIC NON-AMERICAN-ANTI-AMERICAN CABAL spawned in Satan's personal toilet bowl in rancid rotting corpse strewn HELL!!

    , @Wally
    Of course anon has no problem with 'dual citizenship" for dimwitted Zionists.

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    How to Bring Down the Elephant in the Room
    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/how-to-bring-down-the-elephant-in-the-room/
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  34. @NoseytheDuke
    Idiot! The lie that OBL was involved in any way in 9/11 for just one. The lie that he was killed in the Delta 6 raid in Pakistan is another.

    Presumably you think ObL died much earlier than the Navy Seals raid. But why would Obama go along with the charade? No doubt you would say he was looking for political advantage domestically – to which of course I answer that he wouldn’t be so dumb as to believe that no one would blow the whistle.

    Let’s move on to whete you say the extremely long and detailed account of ObL’s death in Wikipedia is wrong and say why. In particular, how come Al Qaeda and other Muslim organisations announced his death and threatened revenge?

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    But why would Obama go along with the charade?

    Look at the timing. Release of long form birth certificate few days earlier and getting ready for reelection.

    2011
    April 4 - reelection campaign formally announced
    Apr 27 -Birth Certificate release
    Apr 28 - White House correspondents' dinner (ridiculing birthers including Trump)
    May 2 - OBL death
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  35. @anon
    Hey Happy Guy ,
    Whats the problem. Giraldi is always whining about America and praising Iran. Why should he stay here . If he likes Iran so much he should move there . Do you think Giraldi should disclose if he has received money from any Iranian entity ??

    Well now…first of all,….I want to greet you with a great big FUCK OFF!!!….Dearest Ivanka…

    The target of Phil’s venom are the Jewish Neocons….and non-Jewish Neocons:The homo- cannibal General Mattis….Hannibal Lectre look-a-like General McMaster in-a-flava-bean-salad with the homo General Mattis….and the filthy cockroach breeding pair Donald Trump and his cockroach husband Hillary Clinton….and the SATANIST!!! that own and run the Military Industrial Complex…..the treasonous SATANIC NON-AMERICAN-ANTI-AMERICAN CABAL spawned in Satan’s personal toilet bowl in rancid rotting corpse strewn HELL!!

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    The homo- cannibal General Mattis….
     
    LOL!!!
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  36. Z-man says:
    @Mark Green
    Trump has been captured by the Deep State and the mainstream Zio-media.

    First, the implacable Left-Hollywood-Zionist axis unnerved, abused, and punked Trump out. Then they and their minions harassed and spooked him. Insurrection was in the air--ever as the President was being sworn into office!

    Has any newly-elected president has ever been treated so disdainfully and with such widespread contempt?

    It was very unsettling.

    Then Trump blinked. After that he caved.

    Now he is moving rapidly 'towards the center'. Unfortunately, this 'centrism' will require a Mideast war.

    The Donald has morphed. He is now part neocon and part Wall St. errand-boy.

    Trump--who campaigned on a populist, pro-American, non-interventionist platform--has his new, improved sights set on toppling/destabilizing Iran, Syria and Lebanon. Haven't we seen this song and dance before?

    Yes we have, despite the fact that these distant, non-nuclear states do not threaten US interests and do not threaten US security in any way, shape, or form.

    Huge lies have become 'facts'.

    Russia's alleged influence in our presidential election, for instance, is not even a fraction of what Israel can impose almost effortlessly.

    The hysteria over 'Russian interference' is a complete fabrication. This very accusation turns reality upside down. But it persists

    What's going on?

    These illusions are pure Zionist subterfuge. Trump's now their boy.

    The wall with Mexico will just have to wait; as will Trump's infrastructure build. Gotta take out Assad first! After all, Syria shares a disputed border with Israel. That's important!

    First up: Israel's foes. (Syria, Iran and Russia.)

    But who cares?

    Why should this matter?

    As Bibi Netanyahu observed: "America can be moved".

    And Bibi's quite right.

    Therefore, Trump's pro-Zionist militancy is being sold as something else ('war on terror') even though it is being championed by the usual Zionist cheerleaders in media and in government.

    Pro-Zionist alliances however radiate in odd directions. This explains Washington's (and our news media's) rising love affair with the House of Saud.

    Note that the Saudi Royals 1) have totally accepted Israel, 2) have absolutely nothing negative to say (or do) regarding Israel's subjugation of Palestine, 3) are hostile to Iran (like Israel), and 4) are willing also to accept the Kingdoms's second-tier military status vis-a-vis Israel.

    For these reasons, the authoritarian, undemocratic, and terror-funding Royal Saudi family is totally 'in sync' with Zio-Washington. The Saudis are even safe from any potential US-Israeli destabilization campaign. (At least for now.)

    But alliances can change rapidly, especially when anti-Zionist regimes rise and persist. Then they get targeted. (See: 'Saddam's Iraq'. See: 'Gadaffi's Libya'.)

    Up next: Syria, Lebanon and Iran.

    In any case, US aid will flow immensely, unconditionally and without interruption to glorious 'democratic' Israel.

    BTW- while it's widely known (and continuously recalled) that Hearst and his newspapers promoted the Spanish-American war (as Mr. Giraldi notes above) what's been mostly forgotten is that Hearst and his newspapers largely opposed Washington's entry into both WWI and WWII. 'Citizen Kane' and the endless array of Hearst-bashing references ignore this neglected yet significant fact.

    In fact, it was none other than Joseph Pulitzer (for whom the pretentious and politicized journalistic prizes are named) whose newspapers helped spearhead the international campaign for America's unnecessary and tragic entry into WWI.

    Pulitzer was as influential as Hearst--and every bit as sensational. But Pulitzer was both anti-German and very pro-US-intervention in Europe.

    Unlike Hearst, Pulitzer demonized Imperial Germany long before the Great War began and it was Pulitzer--not Hearst--who helped sanitize America's pre-war efforts (before WWII) to aid the British and violate laws that sought to preserve US neutrality.

    Like Hearst, Pulitzer was an artful media demagogue; but it was Pulitzer--not Hearst--who used his skills and power to steer America into the two greatest political conflicts ever seen. Joseph Pulitzer was also Jewish.

    True, thank you and depressing, but hope springs eternal and I’m hoping Trump still has some independent thought and some patriotism and patriots behind him!

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  37. @jacques sheete

    The Mexican-American War was provoked by Mexico, which refused to recognize the independence and annexation of Texas, even though the rest of the world and the vast majority of Texans were English speakers who supported joining the USA.
     
    Nah, it was provoked by the concept of manifest destiny.

    Mexico had more right to Tejas than the Zionist gangsters have to Palestine.

    Mexico had more right to Tejas than the Zionist gangsters have to Palestine.

    Neither group has any claim to the land. Mexico invited the Americans into Texas, primarily because Mexico could not deal with the Comanche who lived in Texas and raided both Texas and Mexico. Mexico then lost the war against the Texans and lost all claim to Texas.

    Much of the SW, though claimed by Mexico was controlled by either the Comanche or the Apache.

    Those tribes might have a claim, but Mexico has none.

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    You are correct that the Mexicans invited Americans into Texas, (talk about the negative effects of encouraging immigration), and Mexico may never have had much claim to the land, but they still have a more legitimate claim than the Zionist gangsters have on Palestine.

    In fact, if there were no oil in the region, I suspect the Zionists would all move to NYC!

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  38. David says:
    @Lot
    So many lies in America-hating Philip Giraldi's article, hard to know where to begin. The first lie is literally in the first sentence of the article:

    The United States has been using lies to go to war since 1846, when Americans who believed in manifest destiny sought to expand to the Pacific Ocean at the expense of Mexico
     
    The Mexican-American War was provoked by Mexico, which refused to recognize the independence and annexation of Texas, even though the rest of the world and the vast majority of Texans were English speakers who supported joining the USA.

    Not only did it provoke the war generally, it fired the first shots, killing 11 of 70 American in a surprise attack with 2000 Mexican soldiers.


    The Saudis also have considerable blood on their hands by way of their genocidal assault on neighboring Yemen.
     
    There is nothing "genocidal" about the Saudis supporting the elected government of Yemen against Iran-funded rebels. The UN estimates 100 civilians are killed per month during the war, and that includes all three sides. Source http://bigstory.ap.org/article/43471432a8e949a7af6fc56928284d78/top-un-official-10000-civilians-killed-yemen-conflict

    This in a nation of 25 million. That is just about the least bloody civil war I've heard of. But Giraldi calls it "genocide" because he is a lying propagandist who hates America and wants to defame the side of the civil war we support.

    Finally, no surprise that Giraldi supports Qatar, funder of the Muslim Brotherhood and supporter of the Sharia-imposing former Morsi government of Egypt and the increasingly totalitarian Islamic dictatorship in Turkey.

    You’re displaying poor moral character to call the author America-hating.

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  39. Z-man says:
    @AmericaFirstNow
    Just noticed that the youtube for Michael Scheuer's CNN interview with Smerconish about ISIS didn't go through in prior post! Following one should:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHwp7uwK6bE

    Unfortunately Mr. Scheuer hasn’t been on TV much lately.

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    Because of what is conveyed via the links at following URL:

    http://america-hijacked.com/2013/04/26/do-jews-dominate-in-american-media-and-so-what-if-we-do/

    Following youtube with Scheuer is a must watch too:

    C-SPAN caller sick of US fighting Israel's wars:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7kumM3BDKQ

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  40. Z-man says:
    @AmericaFirstNow
    See following article from Jewish Forward publication on how Netanyahu's Israel 1st AIPAC agent Kushner (who arranged Trump's trip to Saudi Arabia and Israel) has brought other Jewish AIPAC Israel 1sters into the White House:

    http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/359120/jared-kushners-friend-picked-by-donald-trump-as-assistant/

    The infestations continue.

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    They do indeed!
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  41. Z-man says:
    @anonymous
    Looks like the Saudis have pretty much bought us off with their ridiculously large arms purchases and other ways of sending their billions our way. Money talks. The other stuff is just window dressing. We're their hired help and security guard.

    Looks like the Saudis have pretty much bought us off with their ridiculously large arms purchases and other ways of sending their billions our way. Money talks. The other stuff is just window dressing. We’re their hired help and security guard.

    Ah but there’s the rub, and a good one, as the die hard Zionists in the US Congress, isn’t that redundant, are already complaining about the deal. http://www.defensenews.com/articles/us-senate-democrats-rallying-votes-against-saudi-arms-sale
    Hopefully the rats will kill themselves!

    Theres also this from ‘Up Chuck’ Schumer;

    http://www.defensenews.com/articles/schumer-to-oppose-smart-bomb-sale-to-saudi-arabia

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  42. @ANON
    Well I have to thank you for prompting me to read up on Joseph Pulitzer''s remarkable career but I can't commend your attention to detail or recommend you as a source of accurate information to others.

    There is a slight problem about your blaming him for being (before WW1) "pro US intervention in Eutope" having "demonized Imperial Germany" and then that he "helped sanitize American efforts (pre WW2) to help the British". *He died in 1911*.

    Interesting to compare Pulitzer's great career with that of another Central European Jew who immigrated with no English but built a popular newspaper empire. Both served in the armed corces of their adopted country. The other is that appalling rogue Robert Maxwell.

    Joseph Pulitzer II ran the St. Louis Post Dispatch and NY World after his father’s death. He was a staunch supporter of FDR.

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    I would say "nice try" but that would be an exaggeration. The NY World closed in 1931 after being sold by the Pulitzers (plural). You would of course know that they were not Jewish but I suppose you could try making something of the fact that their mother was from a formerly slave owning Southern family..
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  43. MarkinLA says:
    @jacques sheete

    The Mexican-American War was provoked by Mexico, which refused to recognize the independence and annexation of Texas, even though the rest of the world and the vast majority of Texans were English speakers who supported joining the USA.
     
    Nah, it was provoked by the concept of manifest destiny.

    Mexico had more right to Tejas than the Zionist gangsters have to Palestine.

    Mexico lost Texas because Santa Anna made himself a dictator and caused revolts all around Mexico. The Texans just happened to win. Mexico was trying to raise an army to retake it when the US annexed Texas.

    Mexico made the stupid mistakes. Mexico knew the US wanted Texas and California. Mexico had rejected offers to buy them. Mexico should have done everything it could to avoid giving the US a chance to grab them.

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    Yeah, I know all about it. At one time I was a great admirer of the Texians, and the constitution of the Texas Republic, and used to love to visit the Alamo before it was done over. Anyway my main point was not about Mexico or Texas.

    BTW, as you probably know, Davey Crockett was one of the original "Love it or Leave It" dudes and left the US in disgust (in 1836) with craven, dishonest, politicians after his stints in government including Congress and headed for Texas telling the story that if not re-elected, his constituents could go to Hell, and [he] would go to Texas.

    Rotten politicians are an original and permanent feature of American political life, it seems.

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  44. Dutch Boy says:
    @Lot
    So many lies in America-hating Philip Giraldi's article, hard to know where to begin. The first lie is literally in the first sentence of the article:

    The United States has been using lies to go to war since 1846, when Americans who believed in manifest destiny sought to expand to the Pacific Ocean at the expense of Mexico
     
    The Mexican-American War was provoked by Mexico, which refused to recognize the independence and annexation of Texas, even though the rest of the world and the vast majority of Texans were English speakers who supported joining the USA.

    Not only did it provoke the war generally, it fired the first shots, killing 11 of 70 American in a surprise attack with 2000 Mexican soldiers.


    The Saudis also have considerable blood on their hands by way of their genocidal assault on neighboring Yemen.
     
    There is nothing "genocidal" about the Saudis supporting the elected government of Yemen against Iran-funded rebels. The UN estimates 100 civilians are killed per month during the war, and that includes all three sides. Source http://bigstory.ap.org/article/43471432a8e949a7af6fc56928284d78/top-un-official-10000-civilians-killed-yemen-conflict

    This in a nation of 25 million. That is just about the least bloody civil war I've heard of. But Giraldi calls it "genocide" because he is a lying propagandist who hates America and wants to defame the side of the civil war we support.

    Finally, no surprise that Giraldi supports Qatar, funder of the Muslim Brotherhood and supporter of the Sharia-imposing former Morsi government of Egypt and the increasingly totalitarian Islamic dictatorship in Turkey.

    Quite correct. Polk wanted to buy the eventual Mexican Cession, not conquer it.

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  45. @anon
    Why doesn't Giraldi move to Iran ?
    Thats where his concerns and allegiance are. And maybe the source of his finances also ?

    I bet they would love a chubby bear like him.

    Jewnonymous

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  46. Realist says:

    “In a 2009 State Department memo signed off on by Hillary Clinton it was stated that “donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide.””

    Why the hell would use anything Clinton said or did to advocate a position?

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  47. @Chris Mallory

    Mexico had more right to Tejas than the Zionist gangsters have to Palestine.
     
    Neither group has any claim to the land. Mexico invited the Americans into Texas, primarily because Mexico could not deal with the Comanche who lived in Texas and raided both Texas and Mexico. Mexico then lost the war against the Texans and lost all claim to Texas.

    Much of the SW, though claimed by Mexico was controlled by either the Comanche or the Apache.

    Those tribes might have a claim, but Mexico has none.

    You are correct that the Mexicans invited Americans into Texas, (talk about the negative effects of encouraging immigration), and Mexico may never have had much claim to the land, but they still have a more legitimate claim than the Zionist gangsters have on Palestine.

    In fact, if there were no oil in the region, I suspect the Zionists would all move to NYC!

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    One of the few good reasons to support Israel.
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  48. Rurik says:
    @Mark Green
    Trump has been captured by the Deep State and the mainstream Zio-media.

    First, the implacable Left-Hollywood-Zionist axis unnerved, abused, and punked Trump out. Then they and their minions harassed and spooked him. Insurrection was in the air--ever as the President was being sworn into office!

    Has any newly-elected president has ever been treated so disdainfully and with such widespread contempt?

    It was very unsettling.

    Then Trump blinked. After that he caved.

    Now he is moving rapidly 'towards the center'. Unfortunately, this 'centrism' will require a Mideast war.

    The Donald has morphed. He is now part neocon and part Wall St. errand-boy.

    Trump--who campaigned on a populist, pro-American, non-interventionist platform--has his new, improved sights set on toppling/destabilizing Iran, Syria and Lebanon. Haven't we seen this song and dance before?

    Yes we have, despite the fact that these distant, non-nuclear states do not threaten US interests and do not threaten US security in any way, shape, or form.

    Huge lies have become 'facts'.

    Russia's alleged influence in our presidential election, for instance, is not even a fraction of what Israel can impose almost effortlessly.

    The hysteria over 'Russian interference' is a complete fabrication. This very accusation turns reality upside down. But it persists

    What's going on?

    These illusions are pure Zionist subterfuge. Trump's now their boy.

    The wall with Mexico will just have to wait; as will Trump's infrastructure build. Gotta take out Assad first! After all, Syria shares a disputed border with Israel. That's important!

    First up: Israel's foes. (Syria, Iran and Russia.)

    But who cares?

    Why should this matter?

    As Bibi Netanyahu observed: "America can be moved".

    And Bibi's quite right.

    Therefore, Trump's pro-Zionist militancy is being sold as something else ('war on terror') even though it is being championed by the usual Zionist cheerleaders in media and in government.

    Pro-Zionist alliances however radiate in odd directions. This explains Washington's (and our news media's) rising love affair with the House of Saud.

    Note that the Saudi Royals 1) have totally accepted Israel, 2) have absolutely nothing negative to say (or do) regarding Israel's subjugation of Palestine, 3) are hostile to Iran (like Israel), and 4) are willing also to accept the Kingdoms's second-tier military status vis-a-vis Israel.

    For these reasons, the authoritarian, undemocratic, and terror-funding Royal Saudi family is totally 'in sync' with Zio-Washington. The Saudis are even safe from any potential US-Israeli destabilization campaign. (At least for now.)

    But alliances can change rapidly, especially when anti-Zionist regimes rise and persist. Then they get targeted. (See: 'Saddam's Iraq'. See: 'Gadaffi's Libya'.)

    Up next: Syria, Lebanon and Iran.

    In any case, US aid will flow immensely, unconditionally and without interruption to glorious 'democratic' Israel.

    BTW- while it's widely known (and continuously recalled) that Hearst and his newspapers promoted the Spanish-American war (as Mr. Giraldi notes above) what's been mostly forgotten is that Hearst and his newspapers largely opposed Washington's entry into both WWI and WWII. 'Citizen Kane' and the endless array of Hearst-bashing references ignore this neglected yet significant fact.

    In fact, it was none other than Joseph Pulitzer (for whom the pretentious and politicized journalistic prizes are named) whose newspapers helped spearhead the international campaign for America's unnecessary and tragic entry into WWI.

    Pulitzer was as influential as Hearst--and every bit as sensational. But Pulitzer was both anti-German and very pro-US-intervention in Europe.

    Unlike Hearst, Pulitzer demonized Imperial Germany long before the Great War began and it was Pulitzer--not Hearst--who helped sanitize America's pre-war efforts (before WWII) to aid the British and violate laws that sought to preserve US neutrality.

    Like Hearst, Pulitzer was an artful media demagogue; but it was Pulitzer--not Hearst--who used his skills and power to steer America into the two greatest political conflicts ever seen. Joseph Pulitzer was also Jewish.

    Note that the Saudi Royals 1) have totally accepted Israel, 2) have absolutely nothing negative to say (or do) regarding Israel’s subjugation of Palestine, 3) are hostile to Iran (like Israel), and 4) are willing also to accept the Kingdoms’s second-tier military status vis-a-vis Israel.

    For these reasons, the authoritarian, undemocratic, and terror-funding Royal Saudi family is totally ‘in sync’ with Zio-Washington. The Saudis are even safe from any potential US-Israeli destabilization campaign. (At least for now.)

    to understand the Saudi leadership, you need only see how they got along with Iran during the reign of the Shah; a Zio/Anglo quisling installed after the CIA putsch that removed the legitimate, democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27état

    Under the quisling puppet Shah, Iran was terrorized by a CIA/Mossad run organization notorious for its torture methods.

    Time magazine described SAVAK as having “long been Iran’s most hated and feared institution” which had “tortured and murdered thousands of the Shah’s opponents.”[24] The Federation of American Scientists also found it guilty of “the torture and execution of thousands of political prisoners” and symbolizing “the Shah’s rule from 1963–79.” The FAS list of SAVAK torture methods included “electric shock, whipping, beating, inserting broken glass and pouring boiling water into the rectum, tying weights to the testicles, and the extraction of teeth and nails.”[25]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK

    it was during this reign of Zionist and Anglo terror that the corrupt House of Saud got along wonderfully with the Shah’s Zio-Iran. Here you see the king of Saudi Arabia dancing for the amusement of the treacherous little Shah:

    - who exhorted the rulers of Saudi Arabia to embrace the cultural and spiritual sewage of the Zio-West thus:

    “Please, my brother, modernize. Open up your country. Make the schools mixed women and men. Let women wear miniskirts. Have discos. Be modern. Otherwise I cannot guarantee you will stay on your throne.”[15]

    as long as Iran was under the thrall of the Fiend, the Saudi were their bestest buddies ever. They were also bestest buddies with Israel and England and the ZUSA.

    so much treachery and evil and oppression and murder and torture.. it makes the head spin.

    anyways, what do you expect from a fiend, I guess

    so today the Saudis are still under the thrall of the same Fiend, but Iran is not. Hence Saudi Arabia assassinates Shia clerics it doesn’t like, and Iran gets blamed for human rights violations.

    The lies and mendacity and treachery are nearly beyond comprehension. The Saudis toss their fellow Arabs in Palestine under the Zionist bus, and fund and foment ISIS to crucify Christians and burn men alive. The stark divisions between good and evil (if there are such concepts) could hardly be more glaring.

    and yet the Zio-fiend has Trump making nice with the murderous, terrorist-funding Saudis, while saber rattling at the peaceful and civilized Iran.

    great article yet again Mr. Giraldi !

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    Under the quisling puppet Shah, Iran was terrorized by a CIA/Mossad run organization notorious for its torture methods.
     
    Lets compare to the current regime that executes Bahai school teachers. Mona Mahmoudenezhad , Bahai school teacher aged 17 years was executed along with 9 other female Bahai school teachers by the Iranian regime you are so fond of . Execution method : Public hanging from crane .
    Also denial of basic human rights : Homosexuality illegal and punishable by death penalty . 150 homosexuals executed each year in Iran .
    Prosletizing Christianity is illegal and punishable by the death penalty .
    Converting from Islam to Christianity is punishable by the death penalty.
    In court a mans testimony is given twice the weight of a womans.

    fund and foment ISIS to crucify Christians and burn men alive
     
    Muslims funding Muslims to kill Christians ? Nothing new . Has been going on for 1400 years.
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  49. @MarkinLA
    Mexico lost Texas because Santa Anna made himself a dictator and caused revolts all around Mexico. The Texans just happened to win. Mexico was trying to raise an army to retake it when the US annexed Texas.

    Mexico made the stupid mistakes. Mexico knew the US wanted Texas and California. Mexico had rejected offers to buy them. Mexico should have done everything it could to avoid giving the US a chance to grab them.

    Yeah, I know all about it. At one time I was a great admirer of the Texians, and the constitution of the Texas Republic, and used to love to visit the Alamo before it was done over. Anyway my main point was not about Mexico or Texas.

    BTW, as you probably know, Davey Crockett was one of the original “Love it or Leave It” dudes and left the US in disgust (in 1836) with craven, dishonest, politicians after his stints in government including Congress and headed for Texas telling the story that if not re-elected, his constituents could go to Hell, and [he] would go to Texas.

    Rotten politicians are an original and permanent feature of American political life, it seems.

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  50. Z-man says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Well now...first of all,....I want to greet you with a great big FUCK OFF!!!....Dearest Ivanka...


    The target of Phil's venom are the Jewish Neocons....and non-Jewish Neocons:The homo- cannibal General Mattis....Hannibal Lectre look-a-like General McMaster in-a-flava-bean-salad with the homo General Mattis....and the filthy cockroach breeding pair Donald Trump and his cockroach husband Hillary Clinton....and the SATANIST!!! that own and run the Military Industrial Complex.....the treasonous SATANIC NON-AMERICAN-ANTI-AMERICAN CABAL spawned in Satan's personal toilet bowl in rancid rotting corpse strewn HELL!!

    The homo- cannibal General Mattis….

    LOL!!!

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  51. Sam McGowan says: • Website

    I’ve been to Iran and anyone who thinks a war there would be easy has rocks in their head.

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    I don't think a shooting war on Iran is imminent; it's enough to yap about imagined threats to keep people glued to the media and thinking we need the protection of crazies. No threat, less "need" for politicians and the military.

    The more threats, the more dollars for the nut jobs amongst us.

    Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.

    H.L. Mencken, In Defense of Women (1918)
     
    Scott Peterson at the Christian Science Monitor produced a timeline for dire Israeli and US predictions of an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon, beginning ~38 years ago.



    A timeline of warnings since 1979. Breathless warnings that the Islamic Republic will soon be at the brink of nuclear capability have been made for decades. Here is a chronicle of predictions.


    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2011/1108/Imminent-Iran-nuclear-threat-A-timeline-of-warnings-since-1979/Israel-s-one-year-timeframe-disproved-2010-11
     
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  52. Jake says:

    I believe Qatar has the highest per capita income (for its citizens) in the world. That can never sit well with the House of Saud.

    The British Empire made the House of Saud what it is, and the American successors of the Brits intend to keep the con game going. Wise and decent US leadership would recognize the Saudis as the worst of the Middle East and act accordingly. But the English all but created them, and we follow the English lead. And ow that the Israelis dearly love the Saudis, we can expect to see US-Israeli-Saudi mischief all over the region.

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    • Replies: @Brother Ma
    It was not only the UK that gave ultimate shape to the Kingdom of Saud . The Jews also forged the House of Saud. Look it up on internet. A couple of centuries ago a Jewish family of the Mid East went to Arabia and outwardly converted to Islam.Their names are still known and some Jews of the present still can trace their relatives in the Ruling family. It is not unknown for Jews to outwardly convert to reach positions of power. See Donmeh of Turkey famous sons being at least three leaders of 1920s Turkey including Mustapha Kemal Attaturk who of course slaughtered the Christians of Anatolia ie Armenians,Assyrians and Greeks . There are still Jews in Europe after Hitler but precious few Christians in Turkey after Kemal.
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  53. iveritas says:

    PG is a true and a great patriot. those who have the chutzpa to tell PG, “move to Iran”, my message to you is, move to Saudi Arabia or to Israel. But then again, most likely you’re already there.

    On the plus side, the personal attacks on PG are great. It means he must be doing something right.

    Not to mention, when comments take the form of personal attacks instead of arguing the principle tenants of the article, it means the other side doesn’t have a defensible point of view. Which only means PG’s assertions are correct and indisputable.

    I see some red-blooded Americans arguing about Texas, not being in Mexico. These people are forgetting the best form of patriotism is true understanding of our history as a nation. Ignorance and waiving a flag alone is not patriotism. Patriotism is defending the foundation and principles of our nation. Mainly, our constitution. Texas or the number of stars on our flag, etc. does not make America. America for me is the principles our founding father put forth. Which was formulated in a document far advanced for its time (even for today) in the form of our constitution.

    Anything outside of the framework of our nation, I consider false or anger-patriotism. There is a reason why media has played a role in shaping the wars of choice mentioned in this article. Because faced with true facts against the framework of our constitution, those wars are not in the best interests of the public or the country.

    Thank you, PG!

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    Thank you for your thoughtful comments. Here is an outstanding essay that distinguishes between patriotism and nationalism. The author is none other than Joe Sobran.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/06/joseph-sobran/patriotism-or-nationalism/
    , @jacques sheete

    Patriotism is defending the foundation and principles of our nation. Mainly, our constitution.
     
    You sound like a highly respectable sort, and I agree with a lot of your comment, but you may want to reconsider your ideas about that document. I consider it a huge link in the chain around our necks. As for the "founding fathers," they were of opposing minds and the anti-federalists had good reasons for arguing against the imposition of the constitution. They were mostly correct.

    In fact, Patrick Henry refused to attend the Constitutional Convention saying, "I smell a rat." He could have been totally anosmic and still would have been able to smell one, or more likely, quite a few.

    The document stinks, and here's why*.:

    The Constitution looked fairly good on paper, but it was not a popular document; people were suspicious of it, and suspicious of the enabling legislation that was being erected upon it. There was some ground for this. The Constitution had been laid down under unacceptable auspices; its history had been that of a coup d'état.

    It had been drafted, in the first place, by men representing special economic interests. Four-fifths of them were public creditors, one-third were land speculators, and one-fifth represented interests in shipping, manufacturing, and merchandising. Most of them were lawyers. Not one of them represented the interest of production — Vilescit origine tali. (the dice were loaded from the start)

    Albert Jay Nock, Liberty vs. the Constitution: The Early Struggle
    [Excerpted from chapter 5 of Albert Jay Nock's Jefferson]

    https://mises.org/library/liberty-vs-constitution-early-struggle
     

    *My apologies to those who've seen this numerous times before, but it's a critical message and obviously must be presented to each individual as (s)he steps forward. Thanks in advance for your patience as well as your indulgence!
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  54. Moi says:

    It would be great to have Mr. Giraldi write an article about the Mother of all Terrorism.

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  55. edNels says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Phil

    I can tell you from first hand...personal...family reasons...that the filthy cockroach Donald Trump has very big plans to slaughter the Working Class Native Born White Christian American Male Teenager Population by using them as canon fodder for Greater Israel in a war with Shia Muslim Iran. This is Donald Trump's MAGA JOBS PROGRAM....post-Gruman Corp MAGA rally a year ago...

    Trump is as much of a filthy repellent cockroach as Hillary and Bill Clinton.

    It looks like Trump's red hat MAGA HAT WEARING CHICKENHAWK WARHAWK JOCKSNIFFING White Male Voting Bloc Cucks...and they are most definitely CUCKS who deserve to have the shit beat out of them....have given Trump a blank check to 1)bomb Hezzbollah in Syria...and 2)bomb Shia Muslim Iran for Greater Israel...


    Donald Trump+Hillary Clinton=a "cute" post-nuclear WW3 cockroach breeding pair....a 13 billion year COCKROACH RIECH!!!

    Now that’s something. 13 billion years of COCKROACH REICK PESTILENCE!

    Who or what is underlying the common denominator that makes it compelling to work so hard to bring about the ideal conditions for the Cockroach infestation that will grow after the Nuclear conflagration that is the fruit of Heimy science? (Poison/long half-lives.)

    Or, what is the correlation in DNA of the Cockroach and some humanoids? Ever think of that?

    God…(as he may be understood,) or not, has infinity to work it out, and one lead that should be gone into could be where (from a concept called ”Morphic Resonance” which posits that within DNA code there is much dormant potentiality, that also can be shown to tie together various diverse life forms.

    INO’s, some of the humans are… in effect analogous to David Icke’s ideas about lizards, or like… the Bodysnatchers concept of long ago SF movies, (the one with Kevin McCarthy in BW was good).

    The proclivities of, or the fruits of, the Drift… The point aimed at by some people!

    They seem to want to reset Earth to another beginning. A CockRoach Reich!

    Thanks for the idea!

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  56. The Orange Revolution was the work of Soros. Maidan, however, belongs to the Ukrainians themselves. They had no desire to be sold out to Putin by Yanukovich.

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    I think nuland and maybe mccain had a fair amount to do with it.
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  57. @iveritas
    PG is a true and a great patriot. those who have the chutzpa to tell PG, "move to Iran", my message to you is, move to Saudi Arabia or to Israel. But then again, most likely you're already there.

    On the plus side, the personal attacks on PG are great. It means he must be doing something right.

    Not to mention, when comments take the form of personal attacks instead of arguing the principle tenants of the article, it means the other side doesn't have a defensible point of view. Which only means PG's assertions are correct and indisputable.

    I see some red-blooded Americans arguing about Texas, not being in Mexico. These people are forgetting the best form of patriotism is true understanding of our history as a nation. Ignorance and waiving a flag alone is not patriotism. Patriotism is defending the foundation and principles of our nation. Mainly, our constitution. Texas or the number of stars on our flag, etc. does not make America. America for me is the principles our founding father put forth. Which was formulated in a document far advanced for its time (even for today) in the form of our constitution.

    Anything outside of the framework of our nation, I consider false or anger-patriotism. There is a reason why media has played a role in shaping the wars of choice mentioned in this article. Because faced with true facts against the framework of our constitution, those wars are not in the best interests of the public or the country.

    Thank you, PG!

    Thank you for your thoughtful comments. Here is an outstanding essay that distinguishes between patriotism and nationalism. The author is none other than Joe Sobran.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/06/joseph-sobran/patriotism-or-nationalism/

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  58. @Sam McGowan
    I've been to Iran and anyone who thinks a war there would be easy has rocks in their head.

    I don’t think a shooting war on Iran is imminent; it’s enough to yap about imagined threats to keep people glued to the media and thinking we need the protection of crazies. No threat, less “need” for politicians and the military.

    The more threats, the more dollars for the nut jobs amongst us.

    Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.

    H.L. Mencken, In Defense of Women (1918)

    Scott Peterson at the Christian Science Monitor produced a timeline for dire Israeli and US predictions of an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon, beginning ~38 years ago.

    A timeline of warnings since 1979. Breathless warnings that the Islamic Republic will soon be at the brink of nuclear capability have been made for decades. Here is a chronicle of predictions.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2011/1108/Imminent-Iran-nuclear-threat-A-timeline-of-warnings-since-1979/Israel-s-one-year-timeframe-disproved-2010-11

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  59. @iveritas
    PG is a true and a great patriot. those who have the chutzpa to tell PG, "move to Iran", my message to you is, move to Saudi Arabia or to Israel. But then again, most likely you're already there.

    On the plus side, the personal attacks on PG are great. It means he must be doing something right.

    Not to mention, when comments take the form of personal attacks instead of arguing the principle tenants of the article, it means the other side doesn't have a defensible point of view. Which only means PG's assertions are correct and indisputable.

    I see some red-blooded Americans arguing about Texas, not being in Mexico. These people are forgetting the best form of patriotism is true understanding of our history as a nation. Ignorance and waiving a flag alone is not patriotism. Patriotism is defending the foundation and principles of our nation. Mainly, our constitution. Texas or the number of stars on our flag, etc. does not make America. America for me is the principles our founding father put forth. Which was formulated in a document far advanced for its time (even for today) in the form of our constitution.

    Anything outside of the framework of our nation, I consider false or anger-patriotism. There is a reason why media has played a role in shaping the wars of choice mentioned in this article. Because faced with true facts against the framework of our constitution, those wars are not in the best interests of the public or the country.

    Thank you, PG!

    Patriotism is defending the foundation and principles of our nation. Mainly, our constitution.

    You sound like a highly respectable sort, and I agree with a lot of your comment, but you may want to reconsider your ideas about that document. I consider it a huge link in the chain around our necks. As for the “founding fathers,” they were of opposing minds and the anti-federalists had good reasons for arguing against the imposition of the constitution. They were mostly correct.

    In fact, Patrick Henry refused to attend the Constitutional Convention saying, “I smell a rat.” He could have been totally anosmic and still would have been able to smell one, or more likely, quite a few.

    The document stinks, and here’s why*.:

    The Constitution looked fairly good on paper, but it was not a popular document; people were suspicious of it, and suspicious of the enabling legislation that was being erected upon it. There was some ground for this. The Constitution had been laid down under unacceptable auspices; its history had been that of a coup d’état.

    It had been drafted, in the first place, by men representing special economic interests. Four-fifths of them were public creditors, one-third were land speculators, and one-fifth represented interests in shipping, manufacturing, and merchandising. Most of them were lawyers. Not one of them represented the interest of production — Vilescit origine tali. (the dice were loaded from the start)

    Albert Jay Nock, Liberty vs. the Constitution: The Early Struggle
    [Excerpted from chapter 5 of Albert Jay Nock's Jefferson]

    https://mises.org/library/liberty-vs-constitution-early-struggle

    *My apologies to those who’ve seen this numerous times before, but it’s a critical message and obviously must be presented to each individual as (s)he steps forward. Thanks in advance for your patience as well as your indulgence!

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    Question: How does Mr. Nock define production?

    He wrote, "Not one of them represented the interest of production- " but he had just listed manufacturing as one of the represented interests. Also, in those days, did shipping include ship-building? If not, it was certainly a closely related enterprise. Anyway, you see my point. Nock made an absolute statement, but he himself contradicted it.

    Certainly the scales were weighted, but so much of the argument here is just railing against human nature. Are some people more ambitious or enterprising than others? (Let alone those who are more evil and unscrupulous.)
    Some people are very intelligently curious, but it seems rare that the scientist who makes [often labors over for years] a discovery is the one who profits from it. Not fair perhaps, but the way of business, the way of the world.

    You don't like the Constitution or the Founders? They were the ones who stepped up to take responsibility (and to press their own interests, if you will). It's hard to please everybody. So much harder now that there are so many of us. Just look at how much disagreement there is here in these comments. Can you imagine if there were another revolution, and afterwards a new convention. Do you think they'd crowdsource the new Constitution on the web? Let the computer decide? Who would program the machines?
    , @Jake
    The US Constitution would have been great as written the men of the had remained on the scene. They had a fear of acting 'imperially' that two generations later the super rich and powerful found intoxicating.

    The Constitution had too many openings for the unscrupulous, and take advantage they did, and still do.

    God bless Patrick Henry and George Mason and other anti-federalists. They were prescient.
    , @chris
    I agree with both the tone and especially the content of your reply.

    Yeah, the document that was supposed to protect our liberties and restrain the government, cannot plausibly be argued to be doing anything of the sort anymore, except to serve as a woefully small fig leaf on a disgustingly obese body.
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  60. @anon
    Why doesn't Giraldi move to Iran ?
    Thats where his concerns and allegiance are. And maybe the source of his finances also ?

    I bet they would love a chubby bear like him.

    Why don’t you crawl back to the ghetto that you belong?
    Why, after over two millennia of living in peace and prosperity in the land of Iran, the loudest voices for going to destroy Iran is coming from Joooies Iranians who have left Iran after the revolution? If they can’t pinch a penny from you, you become their enemy. Has their lived such a treacherous bunch?
    It’s greedy Zionists like you that end up putting the whole tribe in trouble

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  61. chris says:
    @Lot
    So many lies in America-hating Philip Giraldi's article, hard to know where to begin. The first lie is literally in the first sentence of the article:

    The United States has been using lies to go to war since 1846, when Americans who believed in manifest destiny sought to expand to the Pacific Ocean at the expense of Mexico
     
    The Mexican-American War was provoked by Mexico, which refused to recognize the independence and annexation of Texas, even though the rest of the world and the vast majority of Texans were English speakers who supported joining the USA.

    Not only did it provoke the war generally, it fired the first shots, killing 11 of 70 American in a surprise attack with 2000 Mexican soldiers.


    The Saudis also have considerable blood on their hands by way of their genocidal assault on neighboring Yemen.
     
    There is nothing "genocidal" about the Saudis supporting the elected government of Yemen against Iran-funded rebels. The UN estimates 100 civilians are killed per month during the war, and that includes all three sides. Source http://bigstory.ap.org/article/43471432a8e949a7af6fc56928284d78/top-un-official-10000-civilians-killed-yemen-conflict

    This in a nation of 25 million. That is just about the least bloody civil war I've heard of. But Giraldi calls it "genocide" because he is a lying propagandist who hates America and wants to defame the side of the civil war we support.

    Finally, no surprise that Giraldi supports Qatar, funder of the Muslim Brotherhood and supporter of the Sharia-imposing former Morsi government of Egypt and the increasingly totalitarian Islamic dictatorship in Turkey.

    There is nothing “genocidal” about the Saudis supporting the elected government of Yemen against Iran-funded rebels

    The “elected government of Yemen,” of course, featured exactly ONE candidate who won with a 100% of the vote, supported by Hillary Clinton, in 2012!

    And if the elected “leader” of Yemen fled to the KSA why is he any more legitimate than the president of Ukraine who was overthrown by a US-funded revolution and fled to Russia?

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    I don't agree with Obama's and the EU's support of "color revolutions" around Russia, or our sanctions on Russia in response to the Crimea annexation. Instead, Russia should have a free hand in the entire former USSR with the exception of the Baltic countries.
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  62. chris says:
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Phil

    Texas belongs to America not Mexico. And this means the mass expulsion of the Mexican demographic Fifth Column out of Texas...and many other parts of the US.

    You can always pack up and go live in Mexico.

    You can always pack up and go live in Mexico.

    Why bother, if they’re all coming here anyway?

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  63. @jacques sheete
    You are correct that the Mexicans invited Americans into Texas, (talk about the negative effects of encouraging immigration), and Mexico may never have had much claim to the land, but they still have a more legitimate claim than the Zionist gangsters have on Palestine.

    In fact, if there were no oil in the region, I suspect the Zionists would all move to NYC!

    One of the few good reasons to support Israel.

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  64. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wizard of Oz
    PG - lots of lies: no dispute, bit what were the (relevant) lies about bin Laden?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/did-george-w-bush-do-all-he-could-to-prevent-911/411175/—Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz objected that “I just don’t understand why we are beginning by talking about this one man, bin Laden.” Clarke responded that, “We are talking about a network of terrorist organizations called al-Qaeda, that happens to be led by bin Laden, and we are talking about that network because it and it alone poses an immediate and serious threat to the United States.” To which Wolfowitz replied, “Well, there are others that do as well, at least as much. Iraqi terrorism for example.”

    and more “cording to Eichenwald’s sources, “the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat.”

    —-

    That was the lie about Laden That was the lie

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    Thanks. Interesting. But if you read what PG wrote carefully I don't think that could have been the lie he was referring to. He was writing of a pretext for attacking Afghanistan.
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  65. RobinG says:
    @jacques sheete

    Patriotism is defending the foundation and principles of our nation. Mainly, our constitution.
     
    You sound like a highly respectable sort, and I agree with a lot of your comment, but you may want to reconsider your ideas about that document. I consider it a huge link in the chain around our necks. As for the "founding fathers," they were of opposing minds and the anti-federalists had good reasons for arguing against the imposition of the constitution. They were mostly correct.

    In fact, Patrick Henry refused to attend the Constitutional Convention saying, "I smell a rat." He could have been totally anosmic and still would have been able to smell one, or more likely, quite a few.

    The document stinks, and here's why*.:

    The Constitution looked fairly good on paper, but it was not a popular document; people were suspicious of it, and suspicious of the enabling legislation that was being erected upon it. There was some ground for this. The Constitution had been laid down under unacceptable auspices; its history had been that of a coup d'état.

    It had been drafted, in the first place, by men representing special economic interests. Four-fifths of them were public creditors, one-third were land speculators, and one-fifth represented interests in shipping, manufacturing, and merchandising. Most of them were lawyers. Not one of them represented the interest of production — Vilescit origine tali. (the dice were loaded from the start)

    Albert Jay Nock, Liberty vs. the Constitution: The Early Struggle
    [Excerpted from chapter 5 of Albert Jay Nock's Jefferson]

    https://mises.org/library/liberty-vs-constitution-early-struggle
     

    *My apologies to those who've seen this numerous times before, but it's a critical message and obviously must be presented to each individual as (s)he steps forward. Thanks in advance for your patience as well as your indulgence!

    Question: How does Mr. Nock define production?

    He wrote, “Not one of them represented the interest of production- ” but he had just listed manufacturing as one of the represented interests. Also, in those days, did shipping include ship-building? If not, it was certainly a closely related enterprise. Anyway, you see my point. Nock made an absolute statement, but he himself contradicted it.

    Certainly the scales were weighted, but so much of the argument here is just railing against human nature. Are some people more ambitious or enterprising than others? (Let alone those who are more evil and unscrupulous.)
    Some people are very intelligently curious, but it seems rare that the scientist who makes [often labors over for years] a discovery is the one who profits from it. Not fair perhaps, but the way of business, the way of the world.

    You don’t like the Constitution or the Founders? They were the ones who stepped up to take responsibility (and to press their own interests, if you will). It’s hard to please everybody. So much harder now that there are so many of us. Just look at how much disagreement there is here in these comments. Can you imagine if there were another revolution, and afterwards a new convention. Do you think they’d crowdsource the new Constitution on the web? Let the computer decide? Who would program the machines?

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    Very good comment, Robin.

    Best,
    - One of the Unscrupulous
    , @jacques sheete
    Great comments, and excellent questions and I pretty much agree with all.

    What Nock likely meant by production was farming and making things by craftsmen, (virtually by hand, which is what "manufacturing" actually means, i.e.' "to make by hand.") At the founding (pun intended) there wasn't much by way of industrial grade production, at least in early America. We can see what he meant by what he alluded to by his mention of special interests meaning lawyers, speculators, financiers, etc.

    I'd have to go back and reread the whole thing to give a better answer but then the answer would probably be too long to read. That's why I provided a link.


    Nock made an absolute statement, but he himself contradicted it.
     
    Only if you read it out of context and in the language of today. I see no contradiction.

    Certainly the scales were weighted, but so much of the argument here is just railing against human nature.
     
    I don't see it as railing but as dymythologizing. People tend to think the constitution is some sacred document and practically deify the thing. He was reminding folks to get real. It was a biased document and in fact it would have probably never have been ratified if the Bill of Rights hadn't been tacked on to appease the doubters.

    ...but it seems rare that the scientist who makes [often labors over for years] a discovery is the one who profits from it. Not fair perhaps, but the way of business, the way of the world.
     
    I've long recognized that and agree. The point is that the constitution was never intended to change business as usual, but to amplify it in favor of the usual suspects. Most folks have no idea that such is the case.

    You don’t like the Constitution or the Founders?
     

    I like plenty of the founders, but in any case that's not particularly relevant to this discussion.

    It’s hard to please everybody. So much harder now that there are so many of us.
     
    You hit a key point there and it's exactly correct. It argues against a huge centralized bureaucracy such as the constitution paved the way for. William Grayson used exactly that argument when lobbying against ratification. (I'll look for the citation for that in a bit. I have it somewhere.)

    Your questions in the last paragraph indicate how unworkable the idea of a constitution is especially today. Gotta run for now. Thanks for commenting!

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  66. @Mark Green
    Trump has been captured by the Deep State and the mainstream Zio-media.

    First, the implacable Left-Hollywood-Zionist axis unnerved, abused, and punked Trump out. Then they and their minions harassed and spooked him. Insurrection was in the air--ever as the President was being sworn into office!

    Has any newly-elected president has ever been treated so disdainfully and with such widespread contempt?

    It was very unsettling.

    Then Trump blinked. After that he caved.

    Now he is moving rapidly 'towards the center'. Unfortunately, this 'centrism' will require a Mideast war.

    The Donald has morphed. He is now part neocon and part Wall St. errand-boy.

    Trump--who campaigned on a populist, pro-American, non-interventionist platform--has his new, improved sights set on toppling/destabilizing Iran, Syria and Lebanon. Haven't we seen this song and dance before?

    Yes we have, despite the fact that these distant, non-nuclear states do not threaten US interests and do not threaten US security in any way, shape, or form.

    Huge lies have become 'facts'.

    Russia's alleged influence in our presidential election, for instance, is not even a fraction of what Israel can impose almost effortlessly.

    The hysteria over 'Russian interference' is a complete fabrication. This very accusation turns reality upside down. But it persists

    What's going on?

    These illusions are pure Zionist subterfuge. Trump's now their boy.

    The wall with Mexico will just have to wait; as will Trump's infrastructure build. Gotta take out Assad first! After all, Syria shares a disputed border with Israel. That's important!

    First up: Israel's foes. (Syria, Iran and Russia.)

    But who cares?

    Why should this matter?

    As Bibi Netanyahu observed: "America can be moved".

    And Bibi's quite right.

    Therefore, Trump's pro-Zionist militancy is being sold as something else ('war on terror') even though it is being championed by the usual Zionist cheerleaders in media and in government.

    Pro-Zionist alliances however radiate in odd directions. This explains Washington's (and our news media's) rising love affair with the House of Saud.

    Note that the Saudi Royals 1) have totally accepted Israel, 2) have absolutely nothing negative to say (or do) regarding Israel's subjugation of Palestine, 3) are hostile to Iran (like Israel), and 4) are willing also to accept the Kingdoms's second-tier military status vis-a-vis Israel.

    For these reasons, the authoritarian, undemocratic, and terror-funding Royal Saudi family is totally 'in sync' with Zio-Washington. The Saudis are even safe from any potential US-Israeli destabilization campaign. (At least for now.)

    But alliances can change rapidly, especially when anti-Zionist regimes rise and persist. Then they get targeted. (See: 'Saddam's Iraq'. See: 'Gadaffi's Libya'.)

    Up next: Syria, Lebanon and Iran.

    In any case, US aid will flow immensely, unconditionally and without interruption to glorious 'democratic' Israel.

    BTW- while it's widely known (and continuously recalled) that Hearst and his newspapers promoted the Spanish-American war (as Mr. Giraldi notes above) what's been mostly forgotten is that Hearst and his newspapers largely opposed Washington's entry into both WWI and WWII. 'Citizen Kane' and the endless array of Hearst-bashing references ignore this neglected yet significant fact.

    In fact, it was none other than Joseph Pulitzer (for whom the pretentious and politicized journalistic prizes are named) whose newspapers helped spearhead the international campaign for America's unnecessary and tragic entry into WWI.

    Pulitzer was as influential as Hearst--and every bit as sensational. But Pulitzer was both anti-German and very pro-US-intervention in Europe.

    Unlike Hearst, Pulitzer demonized Imperial Germany long before the Great War began and it was Pulitzer--not Hearst--who helped sanitize America's pre-war efforts (before WWII) to aid the British and violate laws that sought to preserve US neutrality.

    Like Hearst, Pulitzer was an artful media demagogue; but it was Pulitzer--not Hearst--who used his skills and power to steer America into the two greatest political conflicts ever seen. Joseph Pulitzer was also Jewish.

    Hi Mark Green, well observed. The Arabs are so blinded by money, so lost in Zionist tricks, are tripping in their own stupidity. One of the largest ethnic-religious groups in the world, wealthy, but as dumb as a door nail, as Edward Said once said “they are a sorry lot“, haven’t yet grasped how they’re accommodating their own demise. Ironically, they’re are paying for all expenses that will finish them, at least send them to dark ages.
    They don’t see how they’re being played by their half-brothers. I guess treachery is in the blood…..

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    They are selling their oil for the price of bottled water !!!!!!!!
    And then using the money to buy gold toilets !!!!!!!!
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  67. Agent76 says:

    Mar 25, 2016 WAR IS A LIE – David Swanson in Asheville March 25, 2016

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  68. Sam Shama says:
    @RobinG
    Question: How does Mr. Nock define production?

    He wrote, "Not one of them represented the interest of production- " but he had just listed manufacturing as one of the represented interests. Also, in those days, did shipping include ship-building? If not, it was certainly a closely related enterprise. Anyway, you see my point. Nock made an absolute statement, but he himself contradicted it.

    Certainly the scales were weighted, but so much of the argument here is just railing against human nature. Are some people more ambitious or enterprising than others? (Let alone those who are more evil and unscrupulous.)
    Some people are very intelligently curious, but it seems rare that the scientist who makes [often labors over for years] a discovery is the one who profits from it. Not fair perhaps, but the way of business, the way of the world.

    You don't like the Constitution or the Founders? They were the ones who stepped up to take responsibility (and to press their own interests, if you will). It's hard to please everybody. So much harder now that there are so many of us. Just look at how much disagreement there is here in these comments. Can you imagine if there were another revolution, and afterwards a new convention. Do you think they'd crowdsource the new Constitution on the web? Let the computer decide? Who would program the machines?

    Very good comment, Robin.

    Best,
    - One of the Unscrupulous

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  69. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Rurik

    Note that the Saudi Royals 1) have totally accepted Israel, 2) have absolutely nothing negative to say (or do) regarding Israel’s subjugation of Palestine, 3) are hostile to Iran (like Israel), and 4) are willing also to accept the Kingdoms’s second-tier military status vis-a-vis Israel.

    For these reasons, the authoritarian, undemocratic, and terror-funding Royal Saudi family is totally ‘in sync’ with Zio-Washington. The Saudis are even safe from any potential US-Israeli destabilization campaign. (At least for now.)

     

    to understand the Saudi leadership, you need only see how they got along with Iran during the reign of the Shah; a Zio/Anglo quisling installed after the CIA putsch that removed the legitimate, democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27état

    Under the quisling puppet Shah, Iran was terrorized by a CIA/Mossad run organization notorious for its torture methods.

    Time magazine described SAVAK as having "long been Iran's most hated and feared institution" which had "tortured and murdered thousands of the Shah's opponents."[24] The Federation of American Scientists also found it guilty of "the torture and execution of thousands of political prisoners" and symbolizing "the Shah's rule from 1963–79." The FAS list of SAVAK torture methods included "electric shock, whipping, beating, inserting broken glass and pouring boiling water into the rectum, tying weights to the testicles, and the extraction of teeth and nails."[25]
     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK

    it was during this reign of Zionist and Anglo terror that the corrupt House of Saud got along wonderfully with the Shah's Zio-Iran. Here you see the king of Saudi Arabia dancing for the amusement of the treacherous little Shah:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYIft-_FcYQ

    - who exhorted the rulers of Saudi Arabia to embrace the cultural and spiritual sewage of the Zio-West thus:

    "Please, my brother, modernize. Open up your country. Make the schools mixed women and men. Let women wear miniskirts. Have discos. Be modern. Otherwise I cannot guarantee you will stay on your throne."[15]
     

    as long as Iran was under the thrall of the Fiend, the Saudi were their bestest buddies ever. They were also bestest buddies with Israel and England and the ZUSA.

    so much treachery and evil and oppression and murder and torture.. it makes the head spin.

    anyways, what do you expect from a fiend, I guess

    so today the Saudis are still under the thrall of the same Fiend, but Iran is not. Hence Saudi Arabia assassinates Shia clerics it doesn't like, and Iran gets blamed for human rights violations.

    The lies and mendacity and treachery are nearly beyond comprehension. The Saudis toss their fellow Arabs in Palestine under the Zionist bus, and fund and foment ISIS to crucify Christians and burn men alive. The stark divisions between good and evil (if there are such concepts) could hardly be more glaring.

    and yet the Zio-fiend has Trump making nice with the murderous, terrorist-funding Saudis, while saber rattling at the peaceful and civilized Iran.


    great article yet again Mr. Giraldi !

    Under the quisling puppet Shah, Iran was terrorized by a CIA/Mossad run organization notorious for its torture methods.

    Lets compare to the current regime that executes Bahai school teachers. Mona Mahmoudenezhad , Bahai school teacher aged 17 years was executed along with 9 other female Bahai school teachers by the Iranian regime you are so fond of . Execution method : Public hanging from crane .
    Also denial of basic human rights : Homosexuality illegal and punishable by death penalty . 150 homosexuals executed each year in Iran .
    Prosletizing Christianity is illegal and punishable by the death penalty .
    Converting from Islam to Christianity is punishable by the death penalty.
    In court a mans testimony is given twice the weight of a womans.

    fund and foment ISIS to crucify Christians and burn men alive

    Muslims funding Muslims to kill Christians ? Nothing new . Has been going on for 1400 years.

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    The current Iranian regime is at least as ruthless and oppressive as was the regime led by the Shah. However, that regime poses no threat to the United States of America and should not be our problem. Trump is picking a fight with Iran because they threatened Israel. Again, Israel's fights should be their own fights. Leave us out.

    That being said, it is naive to dismiss how much damage we have done to countries like Iran by meddling in their internal affairs and putting in power ruthless puppets like the shah. His cruelty to his own people is what eventually led to his regime being destroyed. If you cause enough harm to people, they will seek revenge.

    If he had been more benevelont and avoided murder and mayhem, he may have been able to turn his country around. But he would also have had to work for the interests of his own people.

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  70. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @truthtellerAryan
    Hi Mark Green, well observed. The Arabs are so blinded by money, so lost in Zionist tricks, are tripping in their own stupidity. One of the largest ethnic-religious groups in the world, wealthy, but as dumb as a door nail, as Edward Said once said "they are a sorry lot", haven't yet grasped how they're accommodating their own demise. Ironically, they're are paying for all expenses that will finish them, at least send them to dark ages.
    They don't see how they're being played by their half-brothers. I guess treachery is in the blood.....

    They are selling their oil for the price of bottled water !!!!!!!!
    And then using the money to buy gold toilets !!!!!!!!

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    "bling" run in the family. If the two of you get together, again, can you imagine how much your part of the family will gain? One being slick and wise, the other being the dumbest we've seen, and with soooo much glitter, your eyes will pop up even more. You belong together and hands down you'll be the victor. Without spilling any blood. But sacrifice is unavoidable unless you change the talmud
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  71. @anon
    Why doesn't Giraldi move to Iran ?
    Thats where his concerns and allegiance are. And maybe the source of his finances also ?

    I bet they would love a chubby bear like him.

    It is official that loving America more than Zionists and Israel is anti-America. How embarrassing, that you see some of our cuck politicians wear flag lapels on their suits with both the Zionist and American flags as one. Treason or patriotism? We’ve already seen symbolically, the swearing of allegiance to this treacherous “shitty” nation by these so called “patriots

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    this treacherous “shitty” nation
     
    Must be strange to totallyl obsessed and consumed with something so trivial as " a shitty nation ".
    But you being an Aryan I would think you would be more concerned with Germany and the fact that you will lose the Aryan homeland within a couple of generations due to almost zero native birth rate ,a soaring Muslim birhrate from your pet " refugees" and turkish laboreres, and millions more military age Muslim men ( refugees ) pouring over your borders . But don't worry , keep obsessing over Jews. By the way who perpetrated the sexual assault festival at Germanys expense on New Years Eve , Jews or Muslims ,?? Who kidnapped/groomed and pimped out 1400 native British girls in Rotherham , Muslims or Jews ??
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  72. Rurik says:

    the only people I’m aware of that were hanged by a crane were some homosexual rapists that raped a young boy

    something the rapists would probably get a medal for doing here in the Zio-West

    so it sounds to me like you’re lying or pathetically misinformed

    “Today, there are at least 600 churches and 300,000–370,000 Christians in Iran.[1]”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Iran

    and I understand that there is also a thriving and ancient Jewish community in Iran.

    OK, I checked and the women were hanged back in the early eighties, just following the revolution that freed Iran from decades of Zionist atrocities and rapine, and apparently they were suspected of collaborating with the Zionists somehow. But that was a long time ago, and I don’t hold today’s Iranian government guilty for what was done decades ago.

    the fact is that Iran has been wronged, (savaged even) by the ZUSA and Israel for a long, long time. Following their revolution that freed them from the Zio-stooge Shah, the ZUSA used their good buddy Saddam to wage a catastrophic war on Iran, and even handed Saddam some nice chemical weapons and gas to use on Iranian troops. Charming huh?

    They’ve been menaced by Israel for so long that it’s part of the fabric of their national narrative, because it seems that the Jewish supremacists can not stand to see others thrive. It drives them whacky- it does. They must have their boot on all throats, Palestinian, Iraqi, Lebanese, Syrian and everybody else. Iran tells them to fuck off, and the Jewish supremacists go bonkers.

    If there’s another world war, it will be forced upon the planet by Jewish, Zionist supremacists and their bought politician whores in London, Paris and DC.

    I pray God speed to Trump in ferreting these Satanic scum out of the government and halls of power here in the former (and soon to be great again) good ol’ US of A. ;)

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    more:

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/liberate-idleb-after-east-aleppo-shifting-military-alliances-moscows-role/5565126
    , @anon
    http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/2017/june/christian-convert-faces-death-sentence-deportation-from-sweden-to-iran
    Iranian women who converted from Islam to Christianity faces death sentence.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/3179465/Hanged-for-being-a-Christian-in-Iran.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atefeh_Sahaaleh
    16 year old girl hanged from a crane publicly for the crime of adultery

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Mahmudnizhad
    17 year old girl from the bahai religion. Her and 8 other school teachers were hanged publicly from a crane.


    These are they guys that you and Giraldi are in love with.

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  73. Rurik says:
    @Rurik
    the only people I'm aware of that were hanged by a crane were some homosexual rapists that raped a young boy

    something the rapists would probably get a medal for doing here in the Zio-West

    so it sounds to me like you're lying or pathetically misinformed

    "Today, there are at least 600 churches and 300,000–370,000 Christians in Iran.[1]"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Iran

    and I understand that there is also a thriving and ancient Jewish community in Iran.

    OK, I checked and the women were hanged back in the early eighties, just following the revolution that freed Iran from decades of Zionist atrocities and rapine, and apparently they were suspected of collaborating with the Zionists somehow. But that was a long time ago, and I don't hold today's Iranian government guilty for what was done decades ago.

    the fact is that Iran has been wronged, (savaged even) by the ZUSA and Israel for a long, long time. Following their revolution that freed them from the Zio-stooge Shah, the ZUSA used their good buddy Saddam to wage a catastrophic war on Iran, and even handed Saddam some nice chemical weapons and gas to use on Iranian troops. Charming huh?

    They've been menaced by Israel for so long that it's part of the fabric of their national narrative, because it seems that the Jewish supremacists can not stand to see others thrive. It drives them whacky- it does. They must have their boot on all throats, Palestinian, Iraqi, Lebanese, Syrian and everybody else. Iran tells them to fuck off, and the Jewish supremacists go bonkers.

    If there's another world war, it will be forced upon the planet by Jewish, Zionist supremacists and their bought politician whores in London, Paris and DC.

    I pray God speed to Trump in ferreting these Satanic scum out of the government and halls of power here in the former (and soon to be great again) good ol' US of A. ;)

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  74. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @truthtellerAryan
    It is official that loving America more than Zionists and Israel is anti-America. How embarrassing, that you see some of our cuck politicians wear flag lapels on their suits with both the Zionist and American flags as one. Treason or patriotism? We've already seen symbolically, the swearing of allegiance to this treacherous "shitty" nation by these so called "patriots"

    this treacherous “shitty” nation

    Must be strange to totallyl obsessed and consumed with something so trivial as ” a shitty nation “.
    But you being an Aryan I would think you would be more concerned with Germany and the fact that you will lose the Aryan homeland within a couple of generations due to almost zero native birth rate ,a soaring Muslim birhrate from your pet ” refugees” and turkish laboreres, and millions more military age Muslim men ( refugees ) pouring over your borders . But don’t worry , keep obsessing over Jews. By the way who perpetrated the sexual assault festival at Germanys expense on New Years Eve , Jews or Muslims ,?? Who kidnapped/groomed and pimped out 1400 native British girls in Rotherham , Muslims or Jews ??

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    Muslim men ( refugees ) pouring over your borders . But don’t worry , keep obsessing over Jews.
     
    your butt-boy George Soros just got his arse handed to him

    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-13/soros-s-native-hungary-approves-crackdown-on-foreign-funded-ngos

    no more kosher Muslims in Hungary
    , @truthtellerAryan
    Horrible couple of incidents. Now compare that to "legal" human trafficking, porn industry, and all the filth you've brought to our societies. The Fatherland is the result of your "short lived" treachery that has now been given "license to do as you please". Every bad deed has an end. The more you practice your "Talmud" ways, the worse the downfall. You're just accumulating debt. The "victim thing" is about to run its course.
    , @Brother Ma
    Both are the same people from a blood point of view. They are called Semites. Science and if you prefer the Bible tells us so.
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  75. lavoisier says: • Website
    @anon

    Under the quisling puppet Shah, Iran was terrorized by a CIA/Mossad run organization notorious for its torture methods.
     
    Lets compare to the current regime that executes Bahai school teachers. Mona Mahmoudenezhad , Bahai school teacher aged 17 years was executed along with 9 other female Bahai school teachers by the Iranian regime you are so fond of . Execution method : Public hanging from crane .
    Also denial of basic human rights : Homosexuality illegal and punishable by death penalty . 150 homosexuals executed each year in Iran .
    Prosletizing Christianity is illegal and punishable by the death penalty .
    Converting from Islam to Christianity is punishable by the death penalty.
    In court a mans testimony is given twice the weight of a womans.

    fund and foment ISIS to crucify Christians and burn men alive
     
    Muslims funding Muslims to kill Christians ? Nothing new . Has been going on for 1400 years.

    The current Iranian regime is at least as ruthless and oppressive as was the regime led by the Shah. However, that regime poses no threat to the United States of America and should not be our problem. Trump is picking a fight with Iran because they threatened Israel. Again, Israel’s fights should be their own fights. Leave us out.

    That being said, it is naive to dismiss how much damage we have done to countries like Iran by meddling in their internal affairs and putting in power ruthless puppets like the shah. His cruelty to his own people is what eventually led to his regime being destroyed. If you cause enough harm to people, they will seek revenge.

    If he had been more benevelont and avoided murder and mayhem, he may have been able to turn his country around. But he would also have had to work for the interests of his own people.

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    I'd say it's less Iran picking a fight with Israel and more, much more, Israel allied with Saudi Arabia, which always wishes to harm Iran in the name of Sunni Islam over the Shia.

    Iran is bad, but I'd still take it over Saudi Arabia any day.
    , @lavoisier
    The Iranian people are, by and large, well educated and secular. Their leadership does not reflect the vast majority of the population. In fact, Iran is probably the only "Islamic" nation in the middle east that has a long term hope to keep Islam in the corner.
    , @Rurik

    The current Iranian regime is at least as ruthless and oppressive as was the regime led by the Shah.
     
    I've never been to Iran, but somehow I doubt that

    ..Little was heard about the royal family's financial scandals and their heroin smuggling on a global scale.

    SAVAK conducted most of the torture, under the friendly guidance of the CIA. which set up SAVAK in 1957 and taught them how to interrogate suspects. Amnesty International reports methods of torture that included "whipping and beating, electric shocks, extraction of teeth and nails, boiling water pumped into the rectum, heavy weights hung on the testicles, tying the prisoner to a metal table heated to a white heat, inserting a broken bottle into the anus, and rape."

    The Shah greatly expanded the military and turned it against his own people. With newfound oil wealth the Shah bought $2C million of U.S. arms. The U.S. military trained Iranian officers. Despite claims that a strong army was needed to prevent external agression, its real purpose became clear last year when the army murdered more than 50,000 Iranians fighting the Shah (the number is based on estimates of dead quickly buried after street massacres and compiled throughout the year).

    Under the Shah education was a means of pacification. Our history books were full of lies ..
     
    http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1979/12/6/life-under-the-shah-pit-was/

    History books full of lies. How eerily familiar that sounds.

    for a glimpse into the kind of culture the Zio-West was imposing on Iran during the Shah's regime, just take a look at what Hollywood has had to settle with since losing Iran to those right-wing types who won't let Hollywood determine their culture anymore. This fellow is from a show called the Shahs of Sunset, and this is just glimpse I found in a ten second search


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUpAjAAK3aM
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  76. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @Mark Green
    Joseph Pulitzer II ran the St. Louis Post Dispatch and NY World after his father's death. He was a staunch supporter of FDR.

    I would say “nice try” but that would be an exaggeration. The NY World closed in 1931 after being sold by the Pulitzers (plural). You would of course know that they were not Jewish but I suppose you could try making something of the fact that their mother was from a formerly slave owning Southern family..

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  77. Rurik says:
    @anon

    this treacherous “shitty” nation
     
    Must be strange to totallyl obsessed and consumed with something so trivial as " a shitty nation ".
    But you being an Aryan I would think you would be more concerned with Germany and the fact that you will lose the Aryan homeland within a couple of generations due to almost zero native birth rate ,a soaring Muslim birhrate from your pet " refugees" and turkish laboreres, and millions more military age Muslim men ( refugees ) pouring over your borders . But don't worry , keep obsessing over Jews. By the way who perpetrated the sexual assault festival at Germanys expense on New Years Eve , Jews or Muslims ,?? Who kidnapped/groomed and pimped out 1400 native British girls in Rotherham , Muslims or Jews ??

    Muslim men ( refugees ) pouring over your borders . But don’t worry , keep obsessing over Jews.

    your butt-boy George Soros just got his arse handed to him

    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-13/soros-s-native-hungary-approves-crackdown-on-foreign-funded-ngos

    no more kosher Muslims in Hungary

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    Soros is a piece of garbage. Hes on your side . Big time financier of Muslim causes . Big time lover of Palestinians . Big time hater of Jews and Israel. And I happen to like Orban. And who constructed his fence ?
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  78. Jake says:
    @jacques sheete

    Patriotism is defending the foundation and principles of our nation. Mainly, our constitution.
     
    You sound like a highly respectable sort, and I agree with a lot of your comment, but you may want to reconsider your ideas about that document. I consider it a huge link in the chain around our necks. As for the "founding fathers," they were of opposing minds and the anti-federalists had good reasons for arguing against the imposition of the constitution. They were mostly correct.

    In fact, Patrick Henry refused to attend the Constitutional Convention saying, "I smell a rat." He could have been totally anosmic and still would have been able to smell one, or more likely, quite a few.

    The document stinks, and here's why*.:

    The Constitution looked fairly good on paper, but it was not a popular document; people were suspicious of it, and suspicious of the enabling legislation that was being erected upon it. There was some ground for this. The Constitution had been laid down under unacceptable auspices; its history had been that of a coup d'état.

    It had been drafted, in the first place, by men representing special economic interests. Four-fifths of them were public creditors, one-third were land speculators, and one-fifth represented interests in shipping, manufacturing, and merchandising. Most of them were lawyers. Not one of them represented the interest of production — Vilescit origine tali. (the dice were loaded from the start)

    Albert Jay Nock, Liberty vs. the Constitution: The Early Struggle
    [Excerpted from chapter 5 of Albert Jay Nock's Jefferson]

    https://mises.org/library/liberty-vs-constitution-early-struggle
     

    *My apologies to those who've seen this numerous times before, but it's a critical message and obviously must be presented to each individual as (s)he steps forward. Thanks in advance for your patience as well as your indulgence!

    The US Constitution would have been great as written the men of the had remained on the scene. They had a fear of acting ‘imperially’ that two generations later the super rich and powerful found intoxicating.

    The Constitution had too many openings for the unscrupulous, and take advantage they did, and still do.

    God bless Patrick Henry and George Mason and other anti-federalists. They were prescient.

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  79. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Rurik

    Muslim men ( refugees ) pouring over your borders . But don’t worry , keep obsessing over Jews.
     
    your butt-boy George Soros just got his arse handed to him

    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-13/soros-s-native-hungary-approves-crackdown-on-foreign-funded-ngos

    no more kosher Muslims in Hungary

    Soros is a piece of garbage. Hes on your side . Big time financier of Muslim causes . Big time lover of Palestinians . Big time hater of Jews and Israel. And I happen to like Orban. And who constructed his fence ?

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  80. Jake says:
    @lavoisier
    The current Iranian regime is at least as ruthless and oppressive as was the regime led by the Shah. However, that regime poses no threat to the United States of America and should not be our problem. Trump is picking a fight with Iran because they threatened Israel. Again, Israel's fights should be their own fights. Leave us out.

    That being said, it is naive to dismiss how much damage we have done to countries like Iran by meddling in their internal affairs and putting in power ruthless puppets like the shah. His cruelty to his own people is what eventually led to his regime being destroyed. If you cause enough harm to people, they will seek revenge.

    If he had been more benevelont and avoided murder and mayhem, he may have been able to turn his country around. But he would also have had to work for the interests of his own people.

    I’d say it’s less Iran picking a fight with Israel and more, much more, Israel allied with Saudi Arabia, which always wishes to harm Iran in the name of Sunni Islam over the Shia.

    Iran is bad, but I’d still take it over Saudi Arabia any day.

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  81. @RobinG
    Question: How does Mr. Nock define production?

    He wrote, "Not one of them represented the interest of production- " but he had just listed manufacturing as one of the represented interests. Also, in those days, did shipping include ship-building? If not, it was certainly a closely related enterprise. Anyway, you see my point. Nock made an absolute statement, but he himself contradicted it.

    Certainly the scales were weighted, but so much of the argument here is just railing against human nature. Are some people more ambitious or enterprising than others? (Let alone those who are more evil and unscrupulous.)
    Some people are very intelligently curious, but it seems rare that the scientist who makes [often labors over for years] a discovery is the one who profits from it. Not fair perhaps, but the way of business, the way of the world.

    You don't like the Constitution or the Founders? They were the ones who stepped up to take responsibility (and to press their own interests, if you will). It's hard to please everybody. So much harder now that there are so many of us. Just look at how much disagreement there is here in these comments. Can you imagine if there were another revolution, and afterwards a new convention. Do you think they'd crowdsource the new Constitution on the web? Let the computer decide? Who would program the machines?

    Great comments, and excellent questions and I pretty much agree with all.

    What Nock likely meant by production was farming and making things by craftsmen, (virtually by hand, which is what “manufacturing” actually means, i.e.’ “to make by hand.”) At the founding (pun intended) there wasn’t much by way of industrial grade production, at least in early America. We can see what he meant by what he alluded to by his mention of special interests meaning lawyers, speculators, financiers, etc.

    I’d have to go back and reread the whole thing to give a better answer but then the answer would probably be too long to read. That’s why I provided a link.

    Nock made an absolute statement, but he himself contradicted it.

    Only if you read it out of context and in the language of today. I see no contradiction.

    Certainly the scales were weighted, but so much of the argument here is just railing against human nature.

    I don’t see it as railing but as dymythologizing. People tend to think the constitution is some sacred document and practically deify the thing. He was reminding folks to get real. It was a biased document and in fact it would have probably never have been ratified if the Bill of Rights hadn’t been tacked on to appease the doubters.

    …but it seems rare that the scientist who makes [often labors over for years] a discovery is the one who profits from it. Not fair perhaps, but the way of business, the way of the world.

    I’ve long recognized that and agree. The point is that the constitution was never intended to change business as usual, but to amplify it in favor of the usual suspects. Most folks have no idea that such is the case.

    You don’t like the Constitution or the Founders?

    I like plenty of the founders, but in any case that’s not particularly relevant to this discussion.

    It’s hard to please everybody. So much harder now that there are so many of us.

    You hit a key point there and it’s exactly correct. It argues against a huge centralized bureaucracy such as the constitution paved the way for. William Grayson used exactly that argument when lobbying against ratification. (I’ll look for the citation for that in a bit. I have it somewhere.)

    Your questions in the last paragraph indicate how unworkable the idea of a constitution is especially today. Gotta run for now. Thanks for commenting!

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    Please don't read any more on my account. The subject doesn't really interest me. But maybe you'll take a closer look at the Nock quote, my question, and your answer, and see why it doesn't compute. (Reminds me of the old grade school aptitude tests.... All manufacturing is production, some production is manufacturing.... )

    However, I should have been clearer with this:

    ...so much of the argument here is just railing against human nature.
     
    That was not meant to refer to the Constitution. What I meant was... so much of the argument here [at Unz, on all subjects, by all writers] is just railing against human nature. And it applies everywhere that people are bemoaning the state of humans in the world. OH!!! The Humanity!!! (Is that a Seinfeld line?)
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  82. @anon

    this treacherous “shitty” nation
     
    Must be strange to totallyl obsessed and consumed with something so trivial as " a shitty nation ".
    But you being an Aryan I would think you would be more concerned with Germany and the fact that you will lose the Aryan homeland within a couple of generations due to almost zero native birth rate ,a soaring Muslim birhrate from your pet " refugees" and turkish laboreres, and millions more military age Muslim men ( refugees ) pouring over your borders . But don't worry , keep obsessing over Jews. By the way who perpetrated the sexual assault festival at Germanys expense on New Years Eve , Jews or Muslims ,?? Who kidnapped/groomed and pimped out 1400 native British girls in Rotherham , Muslims or Jews ??

    Horrible couple of incidents. Now compare that to “legal” human trafficking, porn industry, and all the filth you’ve brought to our societies. The Fatherland is the result of your “short lived” treachery that has now been given “license to do as you please“. Every bad deed has an end. The more you practice your “Talmud” ways, the worse the downfall. You’re just accumulating debt. The “victim thing” is about to run its course.

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    . Now compare that to “legal” human trafficking
     
    You mean your former fascist allies from your Nazi times , Italy ?
    Sure the Italians are the worlds largest legal human trafficker now. Daily the Italian navy sets sail to 100 meter off the Libyan coast and picks up thousands of military age Muslim men ( aka refugees LoL ) . Then they bring them back to Italy and flood Europe . A few million this year , a few million next year. Hey what's the birth rate like in Italy and Germany for the legacy whites ?? .o9 LoL. Proud Aryans can't even be bothered to reproduce. I see why you are so angry and jealous !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  83. utu says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Presumably you think ObL died much earlier than the Navy Seals raid. But why would Obama go along with the charade? No doubt you would say he was looking for political advantage domestically - to which of course I answer that he wouldn't be so dumb as to believe that no one would blow the whistle.

    Let's move on to whete you say the extremely long and detailed account of ObL's death in Wikipedia is wrong and say why. In particular, how come Al Qaeda and other Muslim organisations announced his death and threatened revenge?

    But why would Obama go along with the charade?

    Look at the timing. Release of long form birth certificate few days earlier and getting ready for reelection.

    2011
    April 4 – reelection campaign formally announced
    Apr 27 -Birth Certificate release
    Apr 28 – White House correspondents’ dinner (ridiculing birthers including Trump)
    May 2 – OBL death

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    Yes, as i said "for political advantage domestically". But what about my caveat?Obama would have been a fool to trust all those who knew the truth, and don't tell me that he wouldn't have remembered "Deep Throat" - the Deputy Director of the FBI no less!
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  84. Mal says:

    The author left out the bombing of Serbia in 1999. 15 tonnes of depleted uranium (a banned weapon by Geneva convention) was dropped on Serbia. They bombed the Serbs in support of Albanian terrorists. Terrorists who are now in power in Kosovo and run the largest drug, arms and human trafficking racket in Europe. All thanks to America

    And where is the largest US military base in Europe located? Kosovo, that’s where

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    More power to you Mal for telling this taboo truth. No one in power likes to mention this little beauty. So we NATOists helped Moslem jihadist whiteslavers ,drug traffickers and hitmen...yes all true just look up Interpol and police info on internet dated before Nato bombing of Serbia over Kosovo.. To kill and head chop fellow Christians . Yes head chopping by jihadists of Christians re _started again since 1920s Turkey.Who financed these head choppers in poor little Bosnia and Kosovo that we so bright westerners so had to help. Yes it was the usual suspects...Qatar,Saudi Arabia,Turkey ,Kuwait etc. Note that None of these countries take in any of these Moslem hordes invading Europe and yes they haven,t stopped funding terrorism . As for Kosovo and Bosnia , they are the biggest concentration of returned jihadist headchoppers from Syria. Thats right Biggest us bases in their midst and we still cant exterminate them. Dont forget our other big base in terrorist funding qatar as we speak.

    kosovo and Bosnia still export hitmen ,sex slaves and heroin to rest of Europe and their leaders are just ex mob bosses turned rebel head chopping chiefs to so called presidents who one of our Western pr firms told to shave ,have a haircut and wear a tie and suit probably for the first time in their lives.

    A thinking person would suppose that our governments ie UK and USA dont really care about head-choppers killing Christians unless it happens in our midst. Dont worry the chickens always come home to roost! For the Biblically minded"he who sows the wind will reap the whirlwind"
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  85. Wally says:
    @jacques sheete

    ...what’s been mostly forgotten is that Hearst and his newspapers largely opposed Washington’s entry into both WWI and WWII. ‘Citizen Kane’ and the endless array of Hearst-bashing references ignore this neglected yet significant fact.
     
    Very, very true, and funny how that works. In the same way Charles Lindbergh, because of his opposition to entering WW2, has been egregiously smeared as an "anti-Semite" and the charge still sticks to this day.

    Thanks for pointing that out, and informing us about Poo-litzer.

    What’s wrong with being an “anti-semite”?

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    What’s wrong with being an “anti-semite”?
     
    For one,because Palestinians are generally of Semitic origin and most are probably fine folk.

    In the Lindbergh case, the charge is a smear. He had Jewish friends and associates.
    In his case the "wrong" was in charging him falsely.

    , @Anon
    Hating people on the basis of their involuntary group membership makes you a bad person, period.
    , @Carroll Price
    Short answer; Acquiring the label anti-American, gets you sent to the back of the bus. Anti-Zionist gets you thrown off.
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  86. Wally says:
    @anon
    Why doesn't Giraldi move to Iran ?
    Thats where his concerns and allegiance are. And maybe the source of his finances also ?

    I bet they would love a chubby bear like him.

    Why doesn’t anon move to “that shitty little country”, Israel?

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  87. Wally says:
    @anon
    Hey Happy Guy ,
    Whats the problem. Giraldi is always whining about America and praising Iran. Why should he stay here . If he likes Iran so much he should move there . Do you think Giraldi should disclose if he has received money from any Iranian entity ??

    Of course anon has no problem with ‘dual citizenship” for dimwitted Zionists.

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    How to Bring Down the Elephant in the Room

    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/how-to-bring-down-the-elephant-in-the-room/

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    You can call Zionists a lot of things but I don't think "dimwitted" is one of them.
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  88. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Rurik
    the only people I'm aware of that were hanged by a crane were some homosexual rapists that raped a young boy

    something the rapists would probably get a medal for doing here in the Zio-West

    so it sounds to me like you're lying or pathetically misinformed

    "Today, there are at least 600 churches and 300,000–370,000 Christians in Iran.[1]"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Iran

    and I understand that there is also a thriving and ancient Jewish community in Iran.

    OK, I checked and the women were hanged back in the early eighties, just following the revolution that freed Iran from decades of Zionist atrocities and rapine, and apparently they were suspected of collaborating with the Zionists somehow. But that was a long time ago, and I don't hold today's Iranian government guilty for what was done decades ago.

    the fact is that Iran has been wronged, (savaged even) by the ZUSA and Israel for a long, long time. Following their revolution that freed them from the Zio-stooge Shah, the ZUSA used their good buddy Saddam to wage a catastrophic war on Iran, and even handed Saddam some nice chemical weapons and gas to use on Iranian troops. Charming huh?

    They've been menaced by Israel for so long that it's part of the fabric of their national narrative, because it seems that the Jewish supremacists can not stand to see others thrive. It drives them whacky- it does. They must have their boot on all throats, Palestinian, Iraqi, Lebanese, Syrian and everybody else. Iran tells them to fuck off, and the Jewish supremacists go bonkers.

    If there's another world war, it will be forced upon the planet by Jewish, Zionist supremacists and their bought politician whores in London, Paris and DC.

    I pray God speed to Trump in ferreting these Satanic scum out of the government and halls of power here in the former (and soon to be great again) good ol' US of A. ;)

    http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/2017/june/christian-convert-faces-death-sentence-deportation-from-sweden-to-iran

    Iranian women who converted from Islam to Christianity faces death sentence.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/3179465/Hanged-for-being-a-Christian-in-Iran.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atefeh_Sahaaleh

    16 year old girl hanged from a crane publicly for the crime of adultery

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Mahmudnizhad

    17 year old girl from the bahai religion. Her and 8 other school teachers were hanged publicly from a crane.

    These are they guys that you and Giraldi are in love with.

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    Take a look at your sources. Pretty pathetic stuff there and if you go fishing in a sewer do you really think you'll land tunas?
    , @KA
    Always find some outliers , always look for events even if they are remote ,uncommon,and rare and use that . Before using see if you could fit it into some kind of awareness ,into some sort of ideas that interface with elements of moral,spiritual,individualism . If you could that would be great,if not work towards finding or creating an element of interest that has visceral / emotional appeal .
    If you are Tom Friedman,you could always find in the Syrian soulk who would be dreaming McDonald, love Paris Hilton,appreciate the movies like Born in USA,or Fourth of July or American Sniper or Rocky IV while Tom would ignore the relaxed secular ambience,the educated middle class,urban atmosphere and ignore the hatred to Zionism among them . As Tom Friedman now you will place a calls to some insiders in DNC or RNC and arrange a slot on CNN to talk about the immediate need for action in Syria because people are dying for American leadership and freedom.

    This creates a false reality . Just the constant drumbeat for war,regular provocations by Israel against Hamas and Lebanese manage to create a peace loving ,crisis resolving ,generous but courageous Israel ,through the play of words and selective representation of persons and facts and total obliteration of the context .

    In this imaginary world but made into reality , the outlier,the immaterial the emotional fit of expression( of Arabs) s take precedence over more destructive,more consistent,regular exploitative,illegal Israeli actions and over the calculated deliberate nonchalant murderous policy of Israel .
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  89. Wally says: • Website
    @nsa
    The jooies and their kept eunuchs in wash dc are complaining their precious US (((holocaust))) museum is only being funded with 54 million in American taxpayer funds. This underfunding is very serious as they will have to close the lampshade wing and the soap bar exhibition. Contact your congressional whore immediately and complain........

    Indeed, the ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

    [MORE]

    - We’re talking about an alleged ’6M Jews & 5M others’ … 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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  90. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @truthtellerAryan
    Horrible couple of incidents. Now compare that to "legal" human trafficking, porn industry, and all the filth you've brought to our societies. The Fatherland is the result of your "short lived" treachery that has now been given "license to do as you please". Every bad deed has an end. The more you practice your "Talmud" ways, the worse the downfall. You're just accumulating debt. The "victim thing" is about to run its course.

    . Now compare that to “legal” human trafficking

    You mean your former fascist allies from your Nazi times , Italy ?
    Sure the Italians are the worlds largest legal human trafficker now. Daily the Italian navy sets sail to 100 meter off the Libyan coast and picks up thousands of military age Muslim men ( aka refugees LoL ) . Then they bring them back to Italy and flood Europe . A few million this year , a few million next year. Hey what’s the birth rate like in Italy and Germany for the legacy whites ?? .o9 LoL. Proud Aryans can’t even be bothered to reproduce. I see why you are so angry and jealous !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I mean all of your sick co-talmudis using their money to lure innocent young Slavs into brothels in Tel Aviv, the red light district of Dutch cities ( where you enjoy the fictitious sympathy of unsuspecting Dutch pride for "Diary "), the forced prostitution thru drugs of our young children , as the your Talmud insist, only a joooie is human, "kill, rip-off, undermine" any goy that gets in your way. And you're still victims
    On the subject of female mutilation, I don't know what gibberish you were going on about, but it's still a practice of semites, whatever faith they believe in
    Cut down on copy and paste!! Go see the world, it might change your twisted head
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  91. @anon
    They are selling their oil for the price of bottled water !!!!!!!!
    And then using the money to buy gold toilets !!!!!!!!

    “bling” run in the family. If the two of you get together, again, can you imagine how much your part of the family will gain? One being slick and wise, the other being the dumbest we’ve seen, and with soooo much glitter, your eyes will pop up even more. You belong together and hands down you’ll be the victor. Without spilling any blood. But sacrifice is unavoidable unless you change the talmud

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  92. anon says: • Disclaimer

    http://www.freep.com/story/news/2017/06/13/witness-mosque-paid-doctor-perform-genital-cuttings-girls/394104001/

    A local mosque was paying a physician to perform female genital mutilation on young girls, an attorney serving as a guardian for the doctor’s children alleged in court Tuesday.

    But but but but but I thought Shias were good guys and moderates and mosques were not involved in crime. Oh dear.

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    As someone who's travelled widely, seen a lot of cultures, genital mutilation has zero to do with Islam. It's a Northern and Sub-Saharan African tradition. It's practiced by Animists, Christians, Jews, and Moslems in these countries. Pointing out the same thing as usual doesn't make it a fact you wish it to be. I know your culture likes to repeat whatever point that concern them over and over and over and.....
    We're already tired of holofaux stories, they're going to drive us to the sea, anti-Semitism, IBM.......
    Check Jews from Ethiopia, genital mutilation is their thing, hmmm , maybe it's a semitic thing.
    It's unknown to all non-semitic Muslims
    , @L.K
    Ain't just a little sad to see this pathetic zionist troll, 'anon', doing its utmost to denigrate Muslims, Iran and so on and on?

    One of the troll's tactic is to try to shift attention to the Muslim 'invasion' of Europe - as if this POS cares.
    Now, obviously, there are NO muslim armies invading Europe, so people from muslim majority countries entering Europe are being let in...

    Who is heavily behind the process of turning Europe into Multicult mode? From the horse's mouth:
    Barbara Lerner Spectre: Jews play a "leading role" in promoting multiculturalism in Europe

    Prof. Kevin MacDonald wrote, on September 16, 2010;
    In the video below, Barbara Lerner Spectre, who runs a government-funded Jewish study group in Sweden, makes the following remarkable statement—remarkable because she does not attribute anti-Jewish attitudes to irrational prejudices or even Muslims who hate Israel. Instead she says that it’s because of the “leading role” played by Jews in the movement toward multiculturalism:

    "I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive."
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ

    It's interesting to note that this woman is a ZUSA born Zionist Jew who, together with her Rabbi husband, left ZUSA for the artificial ethno-religious-apartheid state of Israel in 67.
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  93. Lot says:
    @chris

    There is nothing “genocidal” about the Saudis supporting the elected government of Yemen against Iran-funded rebels
     
    The "elected government of Yemen," of course, featured exactly ONE candidate who won with a 100% of the vote, supported by Hillary Clinton, in 2012!

    And if the elected "leader" of Yemen fled to the KSA why is he any more legitimate than the president of Ukraine who was overthrown by a US-funded revolution and fled to Russia?

    I don’t agree with Obama’s and the EU’s support of “color revolutions” around Russia, or our sanctions on Russia in response to the Crimea annexation. Instead, Russia should have a free hand in the entire former USSR with the exception of the Baltic countries.

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  94. Why do you always forget (?) to mention your good friends and collabos of the North, i.e. Canada and UK?

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  95. @Wally
    What's wrong with being an "anti-semite"?

    What’s wrong with being an “anti-semite”?

    For one,because Palestinians are generally of Semitic origin and most are probably fine folk.

    In the Lindbergh case, the charge is a smear. He had Jewish friends and associates.
    In his case the “wrong” was in charging him falsely.

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    For one,because Palestinians are generally of Semitic origin and most are probably fine folk.
     
    http://www.christianpost.com/news/isis-palestinians-sympathetic-toward-islamic-state-arab-center-survey-149622/
    24% of Palestinians admit to supporting ISIS
    50% are against arab intervention to destroy ISIS.

    http://www.newsweek.com/prominent-hamas-commander-was-executed-after-accusations-gay-sex-432343
    Hamas executes people for the crime of homosexuality . Kinda like ISIS huh?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvZyYxAB4jk
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11/20/hamas-kills-six-suspected-aiding-israel-drags-body-through-streets.html

    Hamas executes 6 men by tying them to motorcycles and dragging them through the streets in a public display that could be witnessed by children.

    Palestinians are nice guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  96. @anon
    http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/2017/june/christian-convert-faces-death-sentence-deportation-from-sweden-to-iran
    Iranian women who converted from Islam to Christianity faces death sentence.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/3179465/Hanged-for-being-a-Christian-in-Iran.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atefeh_Sahaaleh
    16 year old girl hanged from a crane publicly for the crime of adultery

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Mahmudnizhad
    17 year old girl from the bahai religion. Her and 8 other school teachers were hanged publicly from a crane.


    These are they guys that you and Giraldi are in love with.

    Take a look at your sources. Pretty pathetic stuff there and if you go fishing in a sewer do you really think you’ll land tunas?

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  97. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wally
    What's wrong with being an "anti-semite"?

    Hating people on the basis of their involuntary group membership makes you a bad person, period.

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    Hating people on the basis of their involuntary group membership makes you a bad person, period.
     
    Being born Jewish is involuntary. Remaining a Jew, or becoming a Zionist is entirely voluntary. Gilad Atzmon (author of the Wondering Who) and Dick Cheney (one of the chief architects behind 9/11) are living examples of the two.
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  98. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wally
    Of course anon has no problem with 'dual citizenship" for dimwitted Zionists.

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    How to Bring Down the Elephant in the Room
    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/how-to-bring-down-the-elephant-in-the-room/

    You can call Zionists a lot of things but I don’t think “dimwitted” is one of them.

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    Don't flatter yourself.

    Parasite Israel wouldn't last a week with US taxpayers money.
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  99. @anon
    http://www.freep.com/story/news/2017/06/13/witness-mosque-paid-doctor-perform-genital-cuttings-girls/394104001/

    A local mosque was paying a physician to perform female genital mutilation on young girls, an attorney serving as a guardian for the doctor's children alleged in court Tuesday.

    But but but but but I thought Shias were good guys and moderates and mosques were not involved in crime. Oh dear.

    As someone who’s travelled widely, seen a lot of cultures, genital mutilation has zero to do with Islam. It’s a Northern and Sub-Saharan African tradition. It’s practiced by Animists, Christians, Jews, and Moslems in these countries. Pointing out the same thing as usual doesn’t make it a fact you wish it to be. I know your culture likes to repeat whatever point that concern them over and over and over and…..
    We’re already tired of holofaux stories, they’re going to drive us to the sea, anti-Semitism, IBM…….
    Check Jews from Ethiopia, genital mutilation is their thing, hmmm , maybe it’s a semitic thing.
    It’s unknown to all non-semitic Muslims

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    It’s a Northern and Sub-Saharan African tradition
     

    It’s unknown to all non-semitic Muslims
     
    You contradict yourself here . You say it is a Sub-Saharan African tradition but then go on to say that it is unknown to all non-semitic Muslims. Sub-Saharan Africans are non-semitic.

    The mosque in the article that was funding female genital mutiltion was a mosque founded by northern Indian Shia Muslims. North India is not a semitic region . Another blow to your purported takkiyah. Next this branch of Islam is practiced in Pakistan as well . Another non semitic region . So basically your takkiyah fell apart due to outright lies and contradiction.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/06/05/virginia-mosque-embattled-after-imam-said-female-genital-mutilation-prevents-hypersexuality/

    Here is another Islamic preacher ( IMAM) promoting female genital mutilation.
    But but but but but nothing to do with ISLAM ~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!
    NAMALT-- Not All Muslims Are Like That !!!!!!!!!!!

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  100. anon says: • Disclaimer
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    As someone who's travelled widely, seen a lot of cultures, genital mutilation has zero to do with Islam. It's a Northern and Sub-Saharan African tradition. It's practiced by Animists, Christians, Jews, and Moslems in these countries. Pointing out the same thing as usual doesn't make it a fact you wish it to be. I know your culture likes to repeat whatever point that concern them over and over and over and.....
    We're already tired of holofaux stories, they're going to drive us to the sea, anti-Semitism, IBM.......
    Check Jews from Ethiopia, genital mutilation is their thing, hmmm , maybe it's a semitic thing.
    It's unknown to all non-semitic Muslims

    It’s a Northern and Sub-Saharan African tradition

    It’s unknown to all non-semitic Muslims

    You contradict yourself here . You say it is a Sub-Saharan African tradition but then go on to say that it is unknown to all non-semitic Muslims. Sub-Saharan Africans are non-semitic.

    The mosque in the article that was funding female genital mutiltion was a mosque founded by northern Indian Shia Muslims. North India is not a semitic region . Another blow to your purported takkiyah. Next this branch of Islam is practiced in Pakistan as well . Another non semitic region . So basically your takkiyah fell apart due to outright lies and contradiction.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/06/05/virginia-mosque-embattled-after-imam-said-female-genital-mutilation-prevents-hypersexuality/

    Here is another Islamic preacher ( IMAM) promoting female genital mutilation.
    But but but but but nothing to do with ISLAM ~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!
    NAMALT– Not All Muslims Are Like That !!!!!!!!!!!

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    Keep repeating , maybe one day it'll become a fact (in your dream and those fools that buy them). Like most other facts you and your Lilliputian tribe have been manufacturing and feeding our comatose population.
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  101. the virulently fundamentalist version of Islam

    In other words, the version closest to its founder’s own.

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  102. lavoisier says: • Website
    @lavoisier
    The current Iranian regime is at least as ruthless and oppressive as was the regime led by the Shah. However, that regime poses no threat to the United States of America and should not be our problem. Trump is picking a fight with Iran because they threatened Israel. Again, Israel's fights should be their own fights. Leave us out.

    That being said, it is naive to dismiss how much damage we have done to countries like Iran by meddling in their internal affairs and putting in power ruthless puppets like the shah. His cruelty to his own people is what eventually led to his regime being destroyed. If you cause enough harm to people, they will seek revenge.

    If he had been more benevelont and avoided murder and mayhem, he may have been able to turn his country around. But he would also have had to work for the interests of his own people.

    The Iranian people are, by and large, well educated and secular. Their leadership does not reflect the vast majority of the population. In fact, Iran is probably the only “Islamic” nation in the middle east that has a long term hope to keep Islam in the corner.

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  103. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @jacques sheete

    What’s wrong with being an “anti-semite”?
     
    For one,because Palestinians are generally of Semitic origin and most are probably fine folk.

    In the Lindbergh case, the charge is a smear. He had Jewish friends and associates.
    In his case the "wrong" was in charging him falsely.

    For one,because Palestinians are generally of Semitic origin and most are probably fine folk.

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/isis-palestinians-sympathetic-toward-islamic-state-arab-center-survey-149622/

    24% of Palestinians admit to supporting ISIS
    50% are against arab intervention to destroy ISIS.

    http://www.newsweek.com/prominent-hamas-commander-was-executed-after-accusations-gay-sex-432343

    Hamas executes people for the crime of homosexuality . Kinda like ISIS huh?

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11/20/hamas-kills-six-suspected-aiding-israel-drags-body-through-streets.html

    Hamas executes 6 men by tying them to motorcycles and dragging them through the streets in a public display that could be witnessed by children.

    Palestinians are nice guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    For one,because Palestinians are generally of Semitic origin and most are probably fine folk.
     
    Your argument(s) against this statement are hollow and nonsensical but predictable for a Zionist or Zionist lap dog.
    , @jacques sheete

    Palestinians are nice guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    I think you meant goys, (but really, the plural is "goyim.") And compared with the standards of the Zio-gangsters, the ones you mentioned probably are "nice."

    Please check you sources;they're consistently garbage; or did you miss the title and message of the article?

    PS: Do you really want to play the game of "Lookit Them There Bad Goys?" Two can play that game, and I'll buy in by mentioning the use of napalm by Isreali monsters on the not too distant past on Palestinian kids.

    If you want to highlight ongoing Israeli crimes, go visit Mondoweiss, read Gilad Atzmon, Finkelstein, Uri Avnery and whole hosts of credible others. If you want to appear as a garbage-meister and a fool, keep quoting corporate sources such as FOX ( Farce ) news and Newsweek.

    Also, remember Rachel Corrie.

    Now, thank you and have a nice day.
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  104. Z-man says:
    @anon

    For one,because Palestinians are generally of Semitic origin and most are probably fine folk.
     
    http://www.christianpost.com/news/isis-palestinians-sympathetic-toward-islamic-state-arab-center-survey-149622/
    24% of Palestinians admit to supporting ISIS
    50% are against arab intervention to destroy ISIS.

    http://www.newsweek.com/prominent-hamas-commander-was-executed-after-accusations-gay-sex-432343
    Hamas executes people for the crime of homosexuality . Kinda like ISIS huh?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvZyYxAB4jk
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11/20/hamas-kills-six-suspected-aiding-israel-drags-body-through-streets.html

    Hamas executes 6 men by tying them to motorcycles and dragging them through the streets in a public display that could be witnessed by children.

    Palestinians are nice guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    For one,because Palestinians are generally of Semitic origin and most are probably fine folk.

    Your argument(s) against this statement are hollow and nonsensical but predictable for a Zionist or Zionist lap dog.

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  105. RobinG says:
    @jacques sheete
    Great comments, and excellent questions and I pretty much agree with all.

    What Nock likely meant by production was farming and making things by craftsmen, (virtually by hand, which is what "manufacturing" actually means, i.e.' "to make by hand.") At the founding (pun intended) there wasn't much by way of industrial grade production, at least in early America. We can see what he meant by what he alluded to by his mention of special interests meaning lawyers, speculators, financiers, etc.

    I'd have to go back and reread the whole thing to give a better answer but then the answer would probably be too long to read. That's why I provided a link.


    Nock made an absolute statement, but he himself contradicted it.
     
    Only if you read it out of context and in the language of today. I see no contradiction.

    Certainly the scales were weighted, but so much of the argument here is just railing against human nature.
     
    I don't see it as railing but as dymythologizing. People tend to think the constitution is some sacred document and practically deify the thing. He was reminding folks to get real. It was a biased document and in fact it would have probably never have been ratified if the Bill of Rights hadn't been tacked on to appease the doubters.

    ...but it seems rare that the scientist who makes [often labors over for years] a discovery is the one who profits from it. Not fair perhaps, but the way of business, the way of the world.
     
    I've long recognized that and agree. The point is that the constitution was never intended to change business as usual, but to amplify it in favor of the usual suspects. Most folks have no idea that such is the case.

    You don’t like the Constitution or the Founders?
     

    I like plenty of the founders, but in any case that's not particularly relevant to this discussion.

    It’s hard to please everybody. So much harder now that there are so many of us.
     
    You hit a key point there and it's exactly correct. It argues against a huge centralized bureaucracy such as the constitution paved the way for. William Grayson used exactly that argument when lobbying against ratification. (I'll look for the citation for that in a bit. I have it somewhere.)

    Your questions in the last paragraph indicate how unworkable the idea of a constitution is especially today. Gotta run for now. Thanks for commenting!

    Please don’t read any more on my account. The subject doesn’t really interest me. But maybe you’ll take a closer look at the Nock quote, my question, and your answer, and see why it doesn’t compute. (Reminds me of the old grade school aptitude tests…. All manufacturing is production, some production is manufacturing…. )

    However, I should have been clearer with this:

    …so much of the argument here is just railing against human nature.

    That was not meant to refer to the Constitution. What I meant was… so much of the argument here [at Unz, on all subjects, by all writers] is just railing against human nature. And it applies everywhere that people are bemoaning the state of humans in the world. OH!!! The Humanity!!! (Is that a Seinfeld line?)

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    The subject doesn’t really interest me.
     
    It ought to, especially if you're going to comment on it, otherwise yer just trolling and who needs that?

    BTW, I didn't post the quote so someone could parse it to death, but rather to illustrate a larger and relatively unknown and underappreciated concept, to pique the interest of of the intelligent, and to refute the rampant and wrong headed idea that the constitution is some sacred document composed by well meaning and benevolent super heroes.

    I guess even trolls have their uses since your question inspired me to review some of the antifed writings. I bet even you would find that your points about managing a large country were used by Robert Yates as well and he argued that on that basis, that the idea of a further consolidation via a constitution was absurd, and he was correct.


    Now, in a large extended country, it is impossible to have a representation, possessing the sentiments, and of integrity, to declare the minds of the people, without having it so numerous and unwieldly, as to be subject in great measure to the inconveniency of a democratic government.

    The territory of the United States is of vast extent; it now contains near three millions of souls, and is capable of containing much more than ten times that number. Is it practicable for a country, so large and so numerous as they will soon become, to elect a representation, that will speak their sentiments, without their becoming so numerous as to be incapable of transacting public business? It certainly is not.

    Brutus, (Robert Yates), To the Citizens of the State of New-York, October 18, 1787
    http://www.constitution.org/afp/brutus01.htm

     


    What I meant was… so much of the argument here [at Unz, on all subjects, by all writers] is just railing against human nature. And it applies everywhere that people are bemoaning the state of humans in the world.
     
    Why not rail against human nature? Ya gotta start somewhere. Besides it's not bemoaning for the sake of bemoaning, it's arguing for the sake of argument in a lot of cases. Also, why are YOU bemoaning the bemoaning? If you don't like UR, why not just leave? No one's forcing you to read the stuff!

    Anyway, it's nice to know that you're another not to be taken seriously. (No bemoaning, just fact.)

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  106. @utu
    But why would Obama go along with the charade?

    Look at the timing. Release of long form birth certificate few days earlier and getting ready for reelection.

    2011
    April 4 - reelection campaign formally announced
    Apr 27 -Birth Certificate release
    Apr 28 - White House correspondents' dinner (ridiculing birthers including Trump)
    May 2 - OBL death

    Yes, as i said “for political advantage domestically”. But what about my caveat?Obama would have been a fool to trust all those who knew the truth, and don’t tell me that he wouldn’t have remembered “Deep Throat” – the Deputy Director of the FBI no less!

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  107. RobinG says:

    COLEEN ROWLEY & MAX BLUMENTHAL Discuss COMEY Hearing

    It’s really a shame about the bad blood between Max and Alison Weir, because he does some terrific journalism. His take-down of Jamie Raskin was priceless.

    Comey Hearing: Little New, More Doubt on “RussiaGate”

    As for the Leaks-NOT-Hacks, please keep pushing this. Only 4 more days.
    LINK TO PETITION FOR SETH RICH INVESTIGATION – PLEASE SIGN https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/appoint-special-prosecutor-investigate-murder-seth-rich-alleged-wikileaks-email-leaker

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    Israel 1st US media talks Russian influence but not Israel's:

    http://america-hijacked.com/2016/08/29/lets-talk-about-russian-influence/
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  108. chris says:
    @jacques sheete

    Patriotism is defending the foundation and principles of our nation. Mainly, our constitution.
     
    You sound like a highly respectable sort, and I agree with a lot of your comment, but you may want to reconsider your ideas about that document. I consider it a huge link in the chain around our necks. As for the "founding fathers," they were of opposing minds and the anti-federalists had good reasons for arguing against the imposition of the constitution. They were mostly correct.

    In fact, Patrick Henry refused to attend the Constitutional Convention saying, "I smell a rat." He could have been totally anosmic and still would have been able to smell one, or more likely, quite a few.

    The document stinks, and here's why*.:

    The Constitution looked fairly good on paper, but it was not a popular document; people were suspicious of it, and suspicious of the enabling legislation that was being erected upon it. There was some ground for this. The Constitution had been laid down under unacceptable auspices; its history had been that of a coup d'état.

    It had been drafted, in the first place, by men representing special economic interests. Four-fifths of them were public creditors, one-third were land speculators, and one-fifth represented interests in shipping, manufacturing, and merchandising. Most of them were lawyers. Not one of them represented the interest of production — Vilescit origine tali. (the dice were loaded from the start)

    Albert Jay Nock, Liberty vs. the Constitution: The Early Struggle
    [Excerpted from chapter 5 of Albert Jay Nock's Jefferson]

    https://mises.org/library/liberty-vs-constitution-early-struggle
     

    *My apologies to those who've seen this numerous times before, but it's a critical message and obviously must be presented to each individual as (s)he steps forward. Thanks in advance for your patience as well as your indulgence!

    I agree with both the tone and especially the content of your reply.

    Yeah, the document that was supposed to protect our liberties and restrain the government, cannot plausibly be argued to be doing anything of the sort anymore, except to serve as a woefully small fig leaf on a disgustingly obese body.

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  109. L.K says:
    @anon
    http://www.freep.com/story/news/2017/06/13/witness-mosque-paid-doctor-perform-genital-cuttings-girls/394104001/

    A local mosque was paying a physician to perform female genital mutilation on young girls, an attorney serving as a guardian for the doctor's children alleged in court Tuesday.

    But but but but but I thought Shias were good guys and moderates and mosques were not involved in crime. Oh dear.

    Ain’t just a little sad to see this pathetic zionist troll, ‘anon’, doing its utmost to denigrate Muslims, Iran and so on and on?

    One of the troll’s tactic is to try to shift attention to the Muslim ‘invasion’ of Europe – as if this POS cares.
    Now, obviously, there are NO muslim armies invading Europe, so people from muslim majority countries entering Europe are being let in…

    Who is heavily behind the process of turning Europe into Multicult mode? From the horse’s mouth:
    Barbara Lerner Spectre: Jews play a “leading role” in promoting multiculturalism in Europe

    Prof. Kevin MacDonald wrote, on September 16, 2010;
    In the video below, Barbara Lerner Spectre, who runs a government-funded Jewish study group in Sweden, makes the following remarkable statement—remarkable because she does not attribute anti-Jewish attitudes to irrational prejudices or even Muslims who hate Israel. Instead she says that it’s because of the “leading role” played by Jews in the movement toward multiculturalism:

    “I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.”

    It’s interesting to note that this woman is a ZUSA born Zionist Jew who, together with her Rabbi husband, left ZUSA for the artificial ethno-religious-apartheid state of Israel in 67.

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    As good as any of the anecdotal blame-the-Jews stuff trotted out on UR is the actual practice of strong Israel supporter Daniel Pipes, his Middle East Forum, and associated organisations. Pipes last year took a group on a study tour of the Muslim ghettoes (actually more like no-go areas for non Muslims at night) of Paris, Berlin and Stockholm. He is certainly not under the illusions of those naive American Israelis who are obviously over impressed and distorted in their thinking by the miraculous integration of an extraordinary ethnic mix in Israel - who happen to be all Jews and even so don't feel like equal citizens if they sre black Ethiopians.

    I suspect there is another distorting factor so far unmentioned. Educated middle class and professional people tend to softheaded about immigration and multiculturalism (including those enabled to employ a cleaner at a low wage). Jews in the UK and elsewhere in Europe tend to be educated middle class or professional.

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  110. @anon

    It’s a Northern and Sub-Saharan African tradition
     

    It’s unknown to all non-semitic Muslims
     
    You contradict yourself here . You say it is a Sub-Saharan African tradition but then go on to say that it is unknown to all non-semitic Muslims. Sub-Saharan Africans are non-semitic.

    The mosque in the article that was funding female genital mutiltion was a mosque founded by northern Indian Shia Muslims. North India is not a semitic region . Another blow to your purported takkiyah. Next this branch of Islam is practiced in Pakistan as well . Another non semitic region . So basically your takkiyah fell apart due to outright lies and contradiction.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/06/05/virginia-mosque-embattled-after-imam-said-female-genital-mutilation-prevents-hypersexuality/

    Here is another Islamic preacher ( IMAM) promoting female genital mutilation.
    But but but but but nothing to do with ISLAM ~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!
    NAMALT-- Not All Muslims Are Like That !!!!!!!!!!!

    Keep repeating , maybe one day it’ll become a fact (in your dream and those fools that buy them). Like most other facts you and your Lilliputian tribe have been manufacturing and feeding our comatose population.

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  111. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Phil

    I can tell you from first hand...personal...family reasons...that the filthy cockroach Donald Trump has very big plans to slaughter the Working Class Native Born White Christian American Male Teenager Population by using them as canon fodder for Greater Israel in a war with Shia Muslim Iran. This is Donald Trump's MAGA JOBS PROGRAM....post-Gruman Corp MAGA rally a year ago...

    Trump is as much of a filthy repellent cockroach as Hillary and Bill Clinton.

    It looks like Trump's red hat MAGA HAT WEARING CHICKENHAWK WARHAWK JOCKSNIFFING White Male Voting Bloc Cucks...and they are most definitely CUCKS who deserve to have the shit beat out of them....have given Trump a blank check to 1)bomb Hezzbollah in Syria...and 2)bomb Shia Muslim Iran for Greater Israel...


    Donald Trump+Hillary Clinton=a "cute" post-nuclear WW3 cockroach breeding pair....a 13 billion year COCKROACH RIECH!!!

    This diatribe refers to the fact that a nephew of War for Blair Mountains has joined his college ROTC program.

    Blair Mountain disapproved of the nephew’s enrollment in ROTC. Blair Mountain does not realize the draft ended more than 40 years ago. No rational person could blame Mrs Trump for his nephew’s decision.

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    That's a Libertarian CUCK comment....a world where everyone magically optimizes their utility function and therefore the "real" world is the rationally ordered and perfect....the best of all possible words..


    The real world for Working Class Native Born White American Teenage Males with Teenage Brains is one where up to 13 trillion $$$$ is our tax $$$$ spent on destroying the Middle East on behalf of Greater Israel.....which could otherwise spent on free college tuition-job training many times over for Working Class White Male Teenagers....in the meantime......Donald's CHICKENHAWK WARHAWK son's do multi-$$$$ BIZNESS deals in the Middle East...as the stainless steal coffins are flown back to the US in the other direction....


    Trump is responsible......your an example of Libertarian deceit....mendacity.....immorality...
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  112. Hezbollah and Hamas are, of course not “terroists”, they are the resistant movements against the Israeli terroists.

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  113. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @L.K
    Ain't just a little sad to see this pathetic zionist troll, 'anon', doing its utmost to denigrate Muslims, Iran and so on and on?

    One of the troll's tactic is to try to shift attention to the Muslim 'invasion' of Europe - as if this POS cares.
    Now, obviously, there are NO muslim armies invading Europe, so people from muslim majority countries entering Europe are being let in...

    Who is heavily behind the process of turning Europe into Multicult mode? From the horse's mouth:
    Barbara Lerner Spectre: Jews play a "leading role" in promoting multiculturalism in Europe

    Prof. Kevin MacDonald wrote, on September 16, 2010;
    In the video below, Barbara Lerner Spectre, who runs a government-funded Jewish study group in Sweden, makes the following remarkable statement—remarkable because she does not attribute anti-Jewish attitudes to irrational prejudices or even Muslims who hate Israel. Instead she says that it’s because of the “leading role” played by Jews in the movement toward multiculturalism:

    "I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive."
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ

    It's interesting to note that this woman is a ZUSA born Zionist Jew who, together with her Rabbi husband, left ZUSA for the artificial ethno-religious-apartheid state of Israel in 67.

    As good as any of the anecdotal blame-the-Jews stuff trotted out on UR is the actual practice of strong Israel supporter Daniel Pipes, his Middle East Forum, and associated organisations. Pipes last year took a group on a study tour of the Muslim ghettoes (actually more like no-go areas for non Muslims at night) of Paris, Berlin and Stockholm. He is certainly not under the illusions of those naive American Israelis who are obviously over impressed and distorted in their thinking by the miraculous integration of an extraordinary ethnic mix in Israel – who happen to be all Jews and even so don’t feel like equal citizens if they sre black Ethiopians.

    I suspect there is another distorting factor so far unmentioned. Educated middle class and professional people tend to softheaded about immigration and multiculturalism (including those enabled to employ a cleaner at a low wage). Jews in the UK and elsewhere in Europe tend to be educated middle class or professional.

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  114. @Wizard of Oz
    I never doubted that you think that but PG is a comparatively serious person and I wondered what he would say, choosing his words as carefully as he quite often seems to. Come to think of it I think he's been caught out being a bit careless on some of his other details this time.

    And what's your version of sbat happened at Abbotabad and why?

    I could answer that for you but It would require a hammer drill and a masonry bit for it to get through so believe what you like. You can file it along with all of the other fantasies that you harbour, an enormous file without a doubt.

    Did you ever forward a pic to Jonathan Revusky, that he might be able to use it to illustrate his HIQI concept?

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    You deny that the Navy Seals killed Osama bin Laden at Abbottabad which is what President Obama and Al Qaeda both said happened and I ask you what your version is. I wasn't asking for something I would believe - only what you believe or say happened. You now say that you could answer it but don't say why you won't. Your readers must all have sussed by now that it is the alcoholic's lack of mental stamina and the fabulist's need to make something up which makes some sense that causes you to retreat in a funk.
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  115. @anon

    For one,because Palestinians are generally of Semitic origin and most are probably fine folk.
     
    http://www.christianpost.com/news/isis-palestinians-sympathetic-toward-islamic-state-arab-center-survey-149622/
    24% of Palestinians admit to supporting ISIS
    50% are against arab intervention to destroy ISIS.

    http://www.newsweek.com/prominent-hamas-commander-was-executed-after-accusations-gay-sex-432343
    Hamas executes people for the crime of homosexuality . Kinda like ISIS huh?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvZyYxAB4jk
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11/20/hamas-kills-six-suspected-aiding-israel-drags-body-through-streets.html

    Hamas executes 6 men by tying them to motorcycles and dragging them through the streets in a public display that could be witnessed by children.

    Palestinians are nice guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Palestinians are nice guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I think you meant goys, (but really, the plural is “goyim.”) And compared with the standards of the Zio-gangsters, the ones you mentioned probably are “nice.”

    Please check you sources;they’re consistently garbage; or did you miss the title and message of the article?

    PS: Do you really want to play the game of “Lookit Them There Bad Goys?” Two can play that game, and I’ll buy in by mentioning the use of napalm by Isreali monsters on the not too distant past on Palestinian kids.

    If you want to highlight ongoing Israeli crimes, go visit Mondoweiss, read Gilad Atzmon, Finkelstein, Uri Avnery and whole hosts of credible others. If you want to appear as a garbage-meister and a fool, keep quoting corporate sources such as FOX ( Farce ) news and Newsweek.

    Also, remember Rachel Corrie.

    Now, thank you and have a nice day.

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    Arrafat was transfering his wife in Paris a million dollars a month of "Aid" money to support her
    high falluting parisian life-style, and I guess you think this is a just compensation for all of the "suffering" caused him by the Isreali "oppressors"

    Damn you are full of shit.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army Vet and pro jazz artisit.
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  116. @RobinG
    Please don't read any more on my account. The subject doesn't really interest me. But maybe you'll take a closer look at the Nock quote, my question, and your answer, and see why it doesn't compute. (Reminds me of the old grade school aptitude tests.... All manufacturing is production, some production is manufacturing.... )

    However, I should have been clearer with this:

    ...so much of the argument here is just railing against human nature.
     
    That was not meant to refer to the Constitution. What I meant was... so much of the argument here [at Unz, on all subjects, by all writers] is just railing against human nature. And it applies everywhere that people are bemoaning the state of humans in the world. OH!!! The Humanity!!! (Is that a Seinfeld line?)

    The subject doesn’t really interest me.

    It ought to, especially if you’re going to comment on it, otherwise yer just trolling and who needs that?

    BTW, I didn’t post the quote so someone could parse it to death, but rather to illustrate a larger and relatively unknown and underappreciated concept, to pique the interest of of the intelligent, and to refute the rampant and wrong headed idea that the constitution is some sacred document composed by well meaning and benevolent super heroes.

    I guess even trolls have their uses since your question inspired me to review some of the antifed writings. I bet even you would find that your points about managing a large country were used by Robert Yates as well and he argued that on that basis, that the idea of a further consolidation via a constitution was absurd, and he was correct.

    Now, in a large extended country, it is impossible to have a representation, possessing the sentiments, and of integrity, to declare the minds of the people, without having it so numerous and unwieldly, as to be subject in great measure to the inconveniency of a democratic government.

    The territory of the United States is of vast extent; it now contains near three millions of souls, and is capable of containing much more than ten times that number. Is it practicable for a country, so large and so numerous as they will soon become, to elect a representation, that will speak their sentiments, without their becoming so numerous as to be incapable of transacting public business? It certainly is not.

    Brutus, (Robert Yates), To the Citizens of the State of New-York, October 18, 1787

    http://www.constitution.org/afp/brutus01.htm

    What I meant was… so much of the argument here [at Unz, on all subjects, by all writers] is just railing against human nature. And it applies everywhere that people are bemoaning the state of humans in the world.

    Why not rail against human nature? Ya gotta start somewhere. Besides it’s not bemoaning for the sake of bemoaning, it’s arguing for the sake of argument in a lot of cases. Also, why are YOU bemoaning the bemoaning? If you don’t like UR, why not just leave? No one’s forcing you to read the stuff!

    Anyway, it’s nice to know that you’re another not to be taken seriously. (No bemoaning, just fact.)

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  117. @Z-man
    Unfortunately Mr. Scheuer hasn't been on TV much lately.

    Because of what is conveyed via the links at following URL:

    http://america-hijacked.com/2013/04/26/do-jews-dominate-in-american-media-and-so-what-if-we-do/

    Following youtube with Scheuer is a must watch too:

    C-SPAN caller sick of US fighting Israel’s wars:

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  118. @Z-man
    The infestations continue.

    They do indeed!

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  119. @RobinG
    COLEEN ROWLEY & MAX BLUMENTHAL Discuss COMEY Hearing

    It's really a shame about the bad blood between Max and Alison Weir, because he does some terrific journalism. His take-down of Jamie Raskin was priceless.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmsZuwL4te4
    Comey Hearing: Little New, More Doubt on "RussiaGate"

    As for the Leaks-NOT-Hacks, please keep pushing this. Only 4 more days.
    LINK TO PETITION FOR SETH RICH INVESTIGATION – PLEASE SIGN https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/appoint-special-prosecutor-investigate-murder-seth-rich-alleged-wikileaks-email-leaker

    Israel 1st US media talks Russian influence but not Israel’s:

    http://america-hijacked.com/2016/08/29/lets-talk-about-russian-influence/

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  120. @Anonymous
    This diatribe refers to the fact that a nephew of War for Blair Mountains has joined his college ROTC program.

    Blair Mountain disapproved of the nephew's enrollment in ROTC. Blair Mountain does not realize the draft ended more than 40 years ago. No rational person could blame Mrs Trump for his nephew's decision.

    That’s a Libertarian CUCK comment….a world where everyone magically optimizes their utility function and therefore the “real” world is the rationally ordered and perfect….the best of all possible words..

    The real world for Working Class Native Born White American Teenage Males with Teenage Brains is one where up to 13 trillion $$$$ is our tax $$$$ spent on destroying the Middle East on behalf of Greater Israel…..which could otherwise spent on free college tuition-job training many times over for Working Class White Male Teenagers….in the meantime……Donald’s CHICKENHAWK WARHAWK son’s do multi-$$$$ BIZNESS deals in the Middle East…as the stainless steal coffins are flown back to the US in the other direction….

    Trump is responsible……your an example of Libertarian deceit….mendacity…..immorality…

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    Always somebody like Blair Mountain in every thread who thinks anyone he hates is a Libertarian.
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  121. @jacques sheete

    Palestinians are nice guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    I think you meant goys, (but really, the plural is "goyim.") And compared with the standards of the Zio-gangsters, the ones you mentioned probably are "nice."

    Please check you sources;they're consistently garbage; or did you miss the title and message of the article?

    PS: Do you really want to play the game of "Lookit Them There Bad Goys?" Two can play that game, and I'll buy in by mentioning the use of napalm by Isreali monsters on the not too distant past on Palestinian kids.

    If you want to highlight ongoing Israeli crimes, go visit Mondoweiss, read Gilad Atzmon, Finkelstein, Uri Avnery and whole hosts of credible others. If you want to appear as a garbage-meister and a fool, keep quoting corporate sources such as FOX ( Farce ) news and Newsweek.

    Also, remember Rachel Corrie.

    Now, thank you and have a nice day.

    Arrafat was transfering his wife in Paris a million dollars a month of “Aid” money to support her
    high falluting parisian life-style, and I guess you think this is a just compensation for all of the “suffering” caused him by the Isreali “oppressors”

    Damn you are full of shit.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army Vet and pro jazz artisit.

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    Still waiting for you to reveal some kind of repeatable experimental proof that telepathy exists and its speed is greater than that of light in a vacuum (186282.397 miles per second).....or is it possible the vacuum is inside your cranium and you just pull stuff out of your telepathic ass?
    , @anon
    Arrafat was transfering his wife in Paris a million dollars a month of “Aid” money to support her
    high falluting parisian life-style, and I guess you think this is a just compensation for all of the “suffering” caused him by the Isreali “oppressors”


    Not true about Arafat because then they (Sharon ) would not made good on his threat to the world that he would kill Arafat and Sharon would not have asked Tom Friedman to write that the death was from HIV.

    But Israel has paid a good number of terrorists including MEK ( contineus to do so ) ISIS ( still doing ) and has paid Abu Nidal . Actually it has retained Abu Nidal until it became convention to blame Saddam for protecting Nidal.

    Israel pays a lot of Lawmakers to make them vote for wars which are nothing but payment to terrorists. This payment mind is not to the families of the bereaved family of Palestinian who might have lost the son or daughters to suicide bombing but to the terrorist directly.

    Israel has been paying Tony Blair a lot for killings the Iraqis.
    , @jacques sheete

    Damn you are full of shit.
     
    Yup, it's even in de name!

    Too bad jealousy is the tribute mediocrity pays to genius, eh, [imaginary] genius?
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  122. @animalogic
    As some what of an aside, on the issue of US lie-started wars: I agree with the author's list except for WW II.
    Yes, the Pacific war was essentially lie-started & possibly unnecessary. However, whatever lies were used for the European war, it's a mute question as to the necessity of US involvement. Essentially, US interests were directly affected by either a Nazi or Soviet victory. Either victory would likely have placed the people & resources of Europe/ western Russia under the control of dubious regimes: there must be strong arguments to justify US European engagement.

    “I agree with the author’s list except for WW II.” You need to go back and read real history facts . Versailles agreement 1917 which gave Poland large part of Germany. Polocks were terrorizing the native Germans and all the Jews. WWII was instigated by USA–Creation of Israel.

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    Back to the dtawing board before you spread the contagion of ignorance further. Versailles was 1919. And the state of Israel was established three years after the end of WW2 and that was only related ro WW2 because so many of the surviving Jews of Europe were homeless.
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  123. annamaria says:
    @LondonBob
    The Israeli and Saudi lobbies, and associated actors, seem to have had some success. I still don't see it going much further, Trump instinctively doesn't want another Iraq on his watch whatever the likes of Mattis etc. wish to engineer.

    As if Trump has a choice…
    “…the global power of Finance, which is gnawing away like cancer at the body of the human race.”

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/14/the-rise-of-a-genuine-left-in-britain-and-its-implications-for-the-middle-east/

    If the “flexible” Bernie is a face of the American left (an opposition to the Empire of FedReserve), then the world is defenseless against the opportunistic “engineers.” It seems that there is no other remedy against the avaricious cancerous growth but a global disaster of a nuclear war towards which the power of Finance has been pushing with mindless stubbornness of total idiots.

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  124. Mr Kushner’s father Charles was in discussions with Sheikh Hamid .. over funding, and sought $500m but that Qatar said Charles Kushner would have to find $1.2bn from elsewhere. These talks, according to Swisher, were going on until a few months ago.
     
    Did Donald Trump denounce Qatar as a ‘sponsor of terrorism’ due to failed business deals?
     

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/donald-trump-qatar-sponsor-terrorism-business-deals-fail-us-president-gulf-emirate-saudi-arabia-uae-a7788151.html

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    I also saw an interesting segment on BBC World News last night with correspondent Yolande Knell as she conveyed that Qatar was supporting Hamas in Gaza and was the only Gulf state to actually have a sheikh (the emir) visit there and meet with the Hamas leader!:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/24/world/middleeast/pledging-400-million-qatari-emir-makes-historic-visit-to-gaza-strip.html

     So no surprise Netanyahu has his Israel 1st AIPAC agent Kushner have Trump go after Qatar because of such! Not to mention for the friendly relations Qatar has with Iran which Netanyahu and Kushner can't like either! The US still did the big billion dollar F-15 deal with Qatar though despite the rising tension!:

    ‎http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40287570?ocid=socialflow_twitter

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  125. @anon
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/did-george-w-bush-do-all-he-could-to-prevent-911/411175/---Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz objected that “I just don’t understand why we are beginning by talking about this one man, bin Laden.” Clarke responded that, “We are talking about a network of terrorist organizations called al-Qaeda, that happens to be led by bin Laden, and we are talking about that network because it and it alone poses an immediate and serious threat to the United States.” To which Wolfowitz replied, “Well, there are others that do as well, at least as much. Iraqi terrorism for example.”

    and more "cording to Eichenwald’s sources, “the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat.”

    ----

    That was the lie about Laden That was the lie

    Thanks. Interesting. But if you read what PG wrote carefully I don’t think that could have been the lie he was referring to. He was writing of a pretext for attacking Afghanistan.

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  126. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @george Archers
    "I agree with the author’s list except for WW II." You need to go back and read real history facts . Versailles agreement 1917 which gave Poland large part of Germany. Polocks were terrorizing the native Germans and all the Jews. WWII was instigated by USA--Creation of Israel.

    Back to the dtawing board before you spread the contagion of ignorance further. Versailles was 1919. And the state of Israel was established three years after the end of WW2 and that was only related ro WW2 because so many of the surviving Jews of Europe were homeless.

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  127. Rurik says:
    @lavoisier
    The current Iranian regime is at least as ruthless and oppressive as was the regime led by the Shah. However, that regime poses no threat to the United States of America and should not be our problem. Trump is picking a fight with Iran because they threatened Israel. Again, Israel's fights should be their own fights. Leave us out.

    That being said, it is naive to dismiss how much damage we have done to countries like Iran by meddling in their internal affairs and putting in power ruthless puppets like the shah. His cruelty to his own people is what eventually led to his regime being destroyed. If you cause enough harm to people, they will seek revenge.

    If he had been more benevelont and avoided murder and mayhem, he may have been able to turn his country around. But he would also have had to work for the interests of his own people.

    The current Iranian regime is at least as ruthless and oppressive as was the regime led by the Shah.

    I’ve never been to Iran, but somehow I doubt that

    ..Little was heard about the royal family’s financial scandals and their heroin smuggling on a global scale.

    SAVAK conducted most of the torture, under the friendly guidance of the CIA. which set up SAVAK in 1957 and taught them how to interrogate suspects. Amnesty International reports methods of torture that included “whipping and beating, electric shocks, extraction of teeth and nails, boiling water pumped into the rectum, heavy weights hung on the testicles, tying the prisoner to a metal table heated to a white heat, inserting a broken bottle into the anus, and rape.”

    The Shah greatly expanded the military and turned it against his own people. With newfound oil wealth the Shah bought $2C million of U.S. arms. The U.S. military trained Iranian officers. Despite claims that a strong army was needed to prevent external agression, its real purpose became clear last year when the army murdered more than 50,000 Iranians fighting the Shah (the number is based on estimates of dead quickly buried after street massacres and compiled throughout the year).

    Under the Shah education was a means of pacification. Our history books were full of lies ..

    http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1979/12/6/life-under-the-shah-pit-was/

    History books full of lies. How eerily familiar that sounds.

    for a glimpse into the kind of culture the Zio-West was imposing on Iran during the Shah’s regime, just take a look at what Hollywood has had to settle with since losing Iran to those right-wing types who won’t let Hollywood determine their culture anymore. This fellow is from a show called the Shahs of Sunset, and this is just glimpse I found in a ten second search

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    I have never been to Iran either.

    I am very close friends with a number of Iranians. They have told me the current regime is ruthless and totally without morals. Torturing dissidents is common.

    When will the Iranian people be free from the twin evils of the Anglo-Zionists and the Islamic nutjobs?

    They are a kind and decent people who have contributed greatly to civilization.

    In fact a careful study will document that their contributions may have been every bit or more significant than that of the Greeks.

    Any glory that could be given to the Islamic world came from the Persians.

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  128. @NoseytheDuke
    I could answer that for you but It would require a hammer drill and a masonry bit for it to get through so believe what you like. You can file it along with all of the other fantasies that you harbour, an enormous file without a doubt.

    Did you ever forward a pic to Jonathan Revusky, that he might be able to use it to illustrate his HIQI concept?

    You deny that the Navy Seals killed Osama bin Laden at Abbottabad which is what President Obama and Al Qaeda both said happened and I ask you what your version is. I wasn’t asking for something I would believe – only what you believe or say happened. You now say that you could answer it but don’t say why you won’t. Your readers must all have sussed by now that it is the alcoholic’s lack of mental stamina and the fabulist’s need to make something up which makes some sense that causes you to retreat in a funk.

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    Not my argument, but with little effort, most 10th graders could come-up with a dozen Bin Laden tales more believable than Obama's version.
    , @NoseytheDuke
    Resorting to name-calling or merely projecting again? It should be quite clear to anyone who reads both of our comments as to who is the alcoholic out of the two of us and it's hardly surprising that you would need something. No doubt the plonk* provides you with the fortitude that enables you to continue posting here despite the constant corrections and general ridicule that you receive from so many different Unz commenters.

    If you and Quartermaster are having a competition as to whose picture Jonathan Revusky might want to use to illustrate the classic HIQI, that's enough, you win hands down. Send the pic already.

    *Australian for cheap wine, favoured by winos and apparently at least one HIQI.

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  129. KA says:
    @ANON
    Well I have to thank you for prompting me to read up on Joseph Pulitzer''s remarkable career but I can't commend your attention to detail or recommend you as a source of accurate information to others.

    There is a slight problem about your blaming him for being (before WW1) "pro US intervention in Eutope" having "demonized Imperial Germany" and then that he "helped sanitize American efforts (pre WW2) to help the British". *He died in 1911*.

    Interesting to compare Pulitzer's great career with that of another Central European Jew who immigrated with no English but built a popular newspaper empire. Both served in the armed corces of their adopted country. The other is that appalling rogue Robert Maxwell.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-13/soros-s-native-hungary-approves-crackdown-on-foreign-funded-ngos

    But NYT doesn’t report this socio-politically important event. It does report on the meager number of activists protesting against Putin.

    Forget about WW2 , NYT and WaPo and CNN and FOX , the entire media complex was asking for wars against Iraq, Syria,Saudi Arab, Yemen, Somalia, Libya and Sudan in 2002 . For the neocons , order of attacking was for simple reasons that attacking Iraq would resonate with hatred and anger and hubris which were generated by 911. Once the war began, the neocons had already logically figured out that the result would enable to move down ( or up) the chain to attack other countries including Iran and Pakistan ( yes Pakistan )
    Their logic was this , if wars against Iraq became success , it could be used as a template to bring democracy and destroy terrorism , to satisfy the yearning of Arab women fir freedom , to stamp out the entire terrorism even from the remotest cornets of Arab . NYT and other already was using Libya as a template few years later and Neocons were promising the spontaneous uprising of Shia against Saddam which then would galvanize Shia of Iran ( back then Shia was neocons friends and hopes – the Shia was then MEK to them , entire Shia) Soros was using color revolution as a template . Elite in media , administration, defense , and lobbyists were reminding Putin that maidan revolution ( Ukraine ) would come to Moscow.

    Returning to the logic of the neocons, if war didn’t become success , then ensuing chaos could be used to ( ( a true American like Reagan would withdraw ) blame neighboring countries and attack neighboring countries, use the chaos to engineer more Salavodiran , more Harii type killings , and use the chaos to upend the order of the society .
    Either way neocon win and media keeps everything visible to the public without letting know anybody how media is entirely controlled by the neocons . Media makes sure that neither the nature and reasons of ME conflicts nor who the master is ever outed or made visible.

    While Saddam , Basher , Ahmednezad and Putin are demonized overtly crudely and eentbusustically with total consensus on tone , wording , and reasons , Trump is demonized in more legalistic , moralistic , cultural frames .

    NBC is hauled up to the public court for Megan Kelly’s interview with Alex Jones but the show on Julious Caesar that overtly points to killing of a sitting president gets revune boosting covering in NYT.

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    Is that meant to be a reply to my comment to which it purports on the face of it to reply? If so please explain the relevance.
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  130. geo says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    Arrafat was transfering his wife in Paris a million dollars a month of "Aid" money to support her
    high falluting parisian life-style, and I guess you think this is a just compensation for all of the "suffering" caused him by the Isreali "oppressors"

    Damn you are full of shit.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army Vet and pro jazz artisit.

    Still waiting for you to reveal some kind of repeatable experimental proof that telepathy exists and its speed is greater than that of light in a vacuum (186282.397 miles per second)…..or is it possible the vacuum is inside your cranium and you just pull stuff out of your telepathic ass?

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    Okay I will say this much to your pathetic insulting and infantile rantings, and I know that these offerings will simply over-tax your limited comprehension:

    First off all you do not speak for all of mankind, and for all of the universe, and for all of this and any other dimensions, meaning that you are not aware of any and all actions of occuring telepathy, basta.

    Secondly, and this will be so extremely advanced for your low IQ status, so as to only evoke ridicule and silly-ass laughter from yourself :

    Anything that someone can imagine IS real, somewhere in existance.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US army vet, and pro jazz musician.
    , @Jeff Davis
    In 1935, EPR(Einstein/Rosen/Podolsky) provided the first theoretical prediction of "non'local" quantum effects.

    https://arxiv.org/pdf/1506.04262.pdf

    Then

    In the early 1980s, while working on his PhD thesis...he performed the elusive "Bell test experiments" that showed that Albert Einstein, Boris Podolsky and Nathan Rosen's reductio ad absurdum of quantum mechanics, namely that it implied 'ghostly action at a distance', did in fact appear to be realised when two particles were separated by an arbitrarily large distance ...
     
    The "faster than the speed of light" thing is established. It just happens outside 4D space-time.
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  131. virgile says:

    The USA is quietly undermining Saudi Arabia by throwing this country into a succession of foolish military adventures that only weakens it. Saudi’s involvement in Lebanon, Syria, Yemen have done nothing but make the kingdom weaker and more dependent on the USA.
    The USA wants to bring Saudi Arabia to total submission and it seems it is succeeding.

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  132. @Wally
    What's wrong with being an "anti-semite"?

    Short answer; Acquiring the label anti-American, gets you sent to the back of the bus. Anti-Zionist gets you thrown off.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuvwxlTDEgU
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  133. @Anon
    Hating people on the basis of their involuntary group membership makes you a bad person, period.

    Hating people on the basis of their involuntary group membership makes you a bad person, period.

    Being born Jewish is involuntary. Remaining a Jew, or becoming a Zionist is entirely voluntary. Gilad Atzmon (author of the Wondering Who) and Dick Cheney (one of the chief architects behind 9/11) are living examples of the two.

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  134. There’s nothing specifically American about lying, in particular about politicians lying. It’s just that Americans seem to be surprised by it, which to us Europeans seems rather naïve! What is clear is that Trump needs a war to validate his presidency and not just any war, a war against Vladimir Putin. The only way to make Russiagate go away is to defeat Putin and force him out of Ukraine. Even booting Assad out of Syria would not be enough. Trump has to remove all suspicion of disloyalty towards the United States or subservience to Russia. A war against anyone other than Putin, including Iran, will be perceived as an attempt (probably attributed to Steve Bannon) to divert attention away from Putin and thus as proof of the very disloyalty Trump is trying to dispel. Putin is most vulnerable in Syria. State parties always lose guerrilla wars (the list of examples is endless). Putin is thus bogged down in an unwinnable war and, since the rebels are going to win anyway, all Trump has to do to win is to back them, which, as Mr Giraldi points out, the US has been doing anyway for years. So I vote for “the escalating catastrophe in Syria” as the most likely outcome.

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  135. Rurik says:
    @Carroll Price
    Short answer; Acquiring the label anti-American, gets you sent to the back of the bus. Anti-Zionist gets you thrown off.

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  136. @Wizard of Oz
    You deny that the Navy Seals killed Osama bin Laden at Abbottabad which is what President Obama and Al Qaeda both said happened and I ask you what your version is. I wasn't asking for something I would believe - only what you believe or say happened. You now say that you could answer it but don't say why you won't. Your readers must all have sussed by now that it is the alcoholic's lack of mental stamina and the fabulist's need to make something up which makes some sense that causes you to retreat in a funk.

    Not my argument, but with little effort, most 10th graders could come-up with a dozen Bin Laden tales more believable than Obama’s version.

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    Osama had been dead for years

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpsvaTIa7Kc

    the whole absurdity with the fake SEAL team attack and the fake burial with the fake picture was all ludicrous

    http://temp.kiruna-nytt.se/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Osama-bin-laden-corpse-photo-is-fake.jpg

    even the 'situation room' photo was faked

    , @Wizard of Oz
    I'm sure those 10th graders have already done their time in 8th grade helping out some UR conspiracy theorists. Simple question: why did Al Qaeda threaten retaliation for the Seals killing of ObL? Another simple question: who could have persuaded Obama rhat he needn't worry about a Deep Throat if he put on a charsde such ss is allegef on this thread?
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  137. Rurik says:
    @Carroll Price
    Not my argument, but with little effort, most 10th graders could come-up with a dozen Bin Laden tales more believable than Obama's version.

    Osama had been dead for years

    the whole absurdity with the fake SEAL team attack and the fake burial with the fake picture was all ludicrous

    even the ‘situation room’ photo was faked

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    Rurik: "the whole absurdity with the fake SEAL team attack and the fake burial with the fake picture was all ludicrous"

    Yep. Remember how many times they changed the story? From memory I think it was at least 6 times... it went from a 1 hour long gun battle between the seals and OBL's bodyguards down to OBL was alone, woke up, had no weapons at all, but tried to resist, so had to be killed.
    As is often the case, this ridiculous propaganda setup has kinda become 'factual' and 'history'... no matter the idiocy of it and total lack of substantiating evidence.

    I've been meaning to ask you for your take re Pat Tillman's death.
    After the fake story he'd been cut down by Al- Ciada MG fire, the army came up with the friendly fire version... it kinda stinks...

    Thoughts?
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  138. Yahooey says:

    Fragmentation since Grenada !

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  139. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Authenticjazzman
    Arrafat was transfering his wife in Paris a million dollars a month of "Aid" money to support her
    high falluting parisian life-style, and I guess you think this is a just compensation for all of the "suffering" caused him by the Isreali "oppressors"

    Damn you are full of shit.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army Vet and pro jazz artisit.

    Arrafat was transfering his wife in Paris a million dollars a month of “Aid” money to support her
    high falluting parisian life-style, and I guess you think this is a just compensation for all of the “suffering” caused him by the Isreali “oppressors”

    Not true about Arafat because then they (Sharon ) would not made good on his threat to the world that he would kill Arafat and Sharon would not have asked Tom Friedman to write that the death was from HIV.

    But Israel has paid a good number of terrorists including MEK ( contineus to do so ) ISIS ( still doing ) and has paid Abu Nidal . Actually it has retained Abu Nidal until it became convention to blame Saddam for protecting Nidal.

    Israel pays a lot of Lawmakers to make them vote for wars which are nothing but payment to terrorists. This payment mind is not to the families of the bereaved family of Palestinian who might have lost the son or daughters to suicide bombing but to the terrorist directly.

    Israel has been paying Tony Blair a lot for killings the Iraqis.

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  140. @anon

    . Now compare that to “legal” human trafficking
     
    You mean your former fascist allies from your Nazi times , Italy ?
    Sure the Italians are the worlds largest legal human trafficker now. Daily the Italian navy sets sail to 100 meter off the Libyan coast and picks up thousands of military age Muslim men ( aka refugees LoL ) . Then they bring them back to Italy and flood Europe . A few million this year , a few million next year. Hey what's the birth rate like in Italy and Germany for the legacy whites ?? .o9 LoL. Proud Aryans can't even be bothered to reproduce. I see why you are so angry and jealous !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I mean all of your sick co-talmudis using their money to lure innocent young Slavs into brothels in Tel Aviv, the red light district of Dutch cities ( where you enjoy the fictitious sympathy of unsuspecting Dutch pride for “Diary “), the forced prostitution thru drugs of our young children , as the your Talmud insist, only a joooie is human, “kill, rip-off, undermine” any goy that gets in your way. And you’re still victims
    On the subject of female mutilation, I don’t know what gibberish you were going on about, but it’s still a practice of semites, whatever faith they believe in
    Cut down on copy and paste!! Go see the world, it might change your twisted head

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  141. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Jeff Sessions Eviscerated on Twitter for His ‘Offensive’ Reference to ‘Jewish AIPAC’
    Uttered during his widely-viewed Senate testimony, the Trump official’s phrase has sparked a social media debate about his description of the pro-Israel lobby as ‘Jewish’
    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-1.795680

    Lie and don’t dare say the truth .

    Israel is Jewish state but lobbying for Israel( because it is Israel ) , cant be tied together and frames as Jewish effort to lobby for Jewish Israel.

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  142. @Anonymous
    "The Saudi regime is the chief enemy of civilization..."

    Looks like you have a problem with reading comprehension.

    Read the first two paragraphs again, and then review who is indeed the Chief enemy of civilisation.

    Your comment implies the US is the real problem, but the Neocons/AIPAC/Zionists “own” the US so the real culprit is — to state it bluntly –”the Jews”. And for those who would say the little Jews, like little people everywhere — ordinary, “man on the street” type people — aren’t involved in the crimes of the rich/powerful/ruthless Jews — aren’t responsible — I have to point out that the little Jews admire and support their “important” — ie rich and powerful — tribal fellows. To be fair, part of that support is due to cultural/tribal indoctrination (brainwashing?), but ethics-free-tribal loyalty accounts for most of it. (A hopeful sign: Many younger Jews are learning, courtesy of the internet, to see past the Zionist brainwashing.)

    If the pattern of 5000 years holds — and 5000 years suggests a very robust pattern — then the Jews will yet again suffer the reaction that comes from their arrogant, abusive overreach. When 300 million non-Jewish Americans finally realize how they have been turned into Israel’s poodle — insulted, exploited, and looted in the process — there will be hell to pay.

    I’m an American and a Jew. Do I issue this assessment-slash-warning, that it might wake up my fellow Jews to the danger before it’s too late? No. I firmly believe it will not help. They will not wake up. They never have, and I am convinced they never will. Something in the head of the Jew makes him/her blind to the problem: “We have done nothing wrong! They hate us because we are Jews!” Blind. Sad.

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    Hi JD, you're absolutely right on this. I have Jewish friends that are divided in the same way you've described. It's almost impossible, to make those who still think they are, and only them, the victims. A child throwing a pebble, or, adults protesting against an inhumane treatment, one that would put anyone in prison or hefty fine if you did it to a dog, is simply looked at as an act of terror and need to be defended with brutality. Our fellow citizens, Jews, are making sure this brutality is on cruise or accelerated, after all they "own" America, Europe, and they've just secured a fat chunk of the Arab world. It's a heavy load to pile up. It'll be heavier when it comes crushing!
    , @HogHappenin
    Unfortunately a major major war with some real power (and not some joke like Iraq) might come sooner than that. Or perhaps that would be the only thing that scales the empire down. I think the slumber is so deep that it will take probably a generational shift to see the forest for the trees as far as most Americans are concerned. And looking at the pace things are moving, you know which one will come earlier
    , @geokat62

    When 300 million non-Jewish Americans finally realize how they have been turned into Israel’s poodle — insulted, exploited, and looted in the process — there will be hell to pay.

    I’m an American and a Jew. Do I issue this assessment-slash-warning, that it might wake up my fellow Jews to the danger before it’s too late? No. I firmly believe it will not help. They will not wake up. They never have, and I am convinced they never will. Something in the head of the Jew makes him/her blind to the problem: “We have done nothing wrong! They hate us because we are Jews!” Blind. Sad.
     

    Sad, indeed, Jeff. Thanks for pointing out the futility of trying to forewarn them about the consequences of their actions. I was convinced that if I logically presented a case that illustrated the dire consequences that would follow from their supporting The Lobby's policy positions, they would cease and desist. But alas what Uri Avnery once said must be true:

    LOGIC WAS not given to the People of Israel on Mount Sinai, but handed down from Mount Olympus to the ancient Greeks.
     
    And this truism not only applies to your coreligionists, it also applies to their sycophantic sidekicks the evangelicals, both the currently and formerly practicing variety.

    Something in the head of the Jew makes him/her blind to the problem:
     
    And some actually have the gall to mock us as having JBD, "Jews on the Brain Disease"!
    , @Art

    Something in the head of the Jew makes him/her blind to the problem: “We have done nothing wrong! They hate us because we are Jews!” Blind. Sad.
     
    Jeff Davis,

    You, as a Jew, are independently saying what I have been talking about with the Big Jew, Little Jew, and Lemming analogies. From birth, the "Jew victim culture" is so deeply indoctrinated, that for the average Jew to change paths is emotionally impossible. The Big Jew leads, the Little Jew follows, and then the Little Jews goes over the cliff. That is Jew culture and its history.

    This cabal of tribal interest is not only about Israel, the ME, and foreign policy -- it is about all of America.

    In the last thirty years the Jews have built a financial empire in America, it controls national corporations, media, and politics. Even our local culture and political power has been given over to Jew Wall Street control. Nine out of ten business on Main Street are now controlled by Wall Street.

    Only a financial catastrophe can restore America to its sustainable roots of local ownership and representative government.

    Peace --- Art
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  143. RobRich says: • Website
    @War for Blair Mountain
    That's a Libertarian CUCK comment....a world where everyone magically optimizes their utility function and therefore the "real" world is the rationally ordered and perfect....the best of all possible words..


    The real world for Working Class Native Born White American Teenage Males with Teenage Brains is one where up to 13 trillion $$$$ is our tax $$$$ spent on destroying the Middle East on behalf of Greater Israel.....which could otherwise spent on free college tuition-job training many times over for Working Class White Male Teenagers....in the meantime......Donald's CHICKENHAWK WARHAWK son's do multi-$$$$ BIZNESS deals in the Middle East...as the stainless steal coffins are flown back to the US in the other direction....


    Trump is responsible......your an example of Libertarian deceit....mendacity.....immorality...

    Always somebody like Blair Mountain in every thread who thinks anyone he hates is a Libertarian.

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  144. Many posters are victims of “Weapons of Mass Instruction.” Mushrooms.
    Check: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Taylor_Gatto

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  145. The Zionist gangsters and the Texas gangster both have every right to control Texas and Palestine they both won their wars and defeated their enemies .

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    The Zionist gangsters and the Texas gangster both have every right to control Texas and Palestine they both won their wars and defeated their enemies .
     
    If that's all it takes, then don't come sniveling to me when it's your turn to get yer arse whupped!
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  146. @Mark Green
    Trump has been captured by the Deep State and the mainstream Zio-media.

    First, the implacable Left-Hollywood-Zionist axis unnerved, abused, and punked Trump out. Then they and their minions harassed and spooked him. Insurrection was in the air--ever as the President was being sworn into office!

    Has any newly-elected president has ever been treated so disdainfully and with such widespread contempt?

    It was very unsettling.

    Then Trump blinked. After that he caved.

    Now he is moving rapidly 'towards the center'. Unfortunately, this 'centrism' will require a Mideast war.

    The Donald has morphed. He is now part neocon and part Wall St. errand-boy.

    Trump--who campaigned on a populist, pro-American, non-interventionist platform--has his new, improved sights set on toppling/destabilizing Iran, Syria and Lebanon. Haven't we seen this song and dance before?

    Yes we have, despite the fact that these distant, non-nuclear states do not threaten US interests and do not threaten US security in any way, shape, or form.

    Huge lies have become 'facts'.

    Russia's alleged influence in our presidential election, for instance, is not even a fraction of what Israel can impose almost effortlessly.

    The hysteria over 'Russian interference' is a complete fabrication. This very accusation turns reality upside down. But it persists

    What's going on?

    These illusions are pure Zionist subterfuge. Trump's now their boy.

    The wall with Mexico will just have to wait; as will Trump's infrastructure build. Gotta take out Assad first! After all, Syria shares a disputed border with Israel. That's important!

    First up: Israel's foes. (Syria, Iran and Russia.)

    But who cares?

    Why should this matter?

    As Bibi Netanyahu observed: "America can be moved".

    And Bibi's quite right.

    Therefore, Trump's pro-Zionist militancy is being sold as something else ('war on terror') even though it is being championed by the usual Zionist cheerleaders in media and in government.

    Pro-Zionist alliances however radiate in odd directions. This explains Washington's (and our news media's) rising love affair with the House of Saud.

    Note that the Saudi Royals 1) have totally accepted Israel, 2) have absolutely nothing negative to say (or do) regarding Israel's subjugation of Palestine, 3) are hostile to Iran (like Israel), and 4) are willing also to accept the Kingdoms's second-tier military status vis-a-vis Israel.

    For these reasons, the authoritarian, undemocratic, and terror-funding Royal Saudi family is totally 'in sync' with Zio-Washington. The Saudis are even safe from any potential US-Israeli destabilization campaign. (At least for now.)

    But alliances can change rapidly, especially when anti-Zionist regimes rise and persist. Then they get targeted. (See: 'Saddam's Iraq'. See: 'Gadaffi's Libya'.)

    Up next: Syria, Lebanon and Iran.

    In any case, US aid will flow immensely, unconditionally and without interruption to glorious 'democratic' Israel.

    BTW- while it's widely known (and continuously recalled) that Hearst and his newspapers promoted the Spanish-American war (as Mr. Giraldi notes above) what's been mostly forgotten is that Hearst and his newspapers largely opposed Washington's entry into both WWI and WWII. 'Citizen Kane' and the endless array of Hearst-bashing references ignore this neglected yet significant fact.

    In fact, it was none other than Joseph Pulitzer (for whom the pretentious and politicized journalistic prizes are named) whose newspapers helped spearhead the international campaign for America's unnecessary and tragic entry into WWI.

    Pulitzer was as influential as Hearst--and every bit as sensational. But Pulitzer was both anti-German and very pro-US-intervention in Europe.

    Unlike Hearst, Pulitzer demonized Imperial Germany long before the Great War began and it was Pulitzer--not Hearst--who helped sanitize America's pre-war efforts (before WWII) to aid the British and violate laws that sought to preserve US neutrality.

    Like Hearst, Pulitzer was an artful media demagogue; but it was Pulitzer--not Hearst--who used his skills and power to steer America into the two greatest political conflicts ever seen. Joseph Pulitzer was also Jewish.

    Pulitzer was a Jew? It appears to me that 80% of all opinion makers, rich, experts, and famous people are Jews. Doing the math for a segment of our population that is only 2%; it illustrate overrepresentation of unbelievable if not criminal level. If 2% are allowed to eat 99% of the pie, the great majority of people should object at the degree of unfairness, except, in our case the great majority of the population have no access to the mega microphone.

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  147. Wally says:
    @Anon
    You can call Zionists a lot of things but I don't think "dimwitted" is one of them.

    Don’t flatter yourself.

    Parasite Israel wouldn’t last a week with US taxpayers money.

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    Tell me how Zionists -- a minority of the world population by anyone's count -- can annex territory and violate rights with wild abandon and get away with it and still be "dimwitted"?
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  148. Joy says: • Website
    @Lot
    So many lies in America-hating Philip Giraldi's article, hard to know where to begin. The first lie is literally in the first sentence of the article:

    The United States has been using lies to go to war since 1846, when Americans who believed in manifest destiny sought to expand to the Pacific Ocean at the expense of Mexico
     
    The Mexican-American War was provoked by Mexico, which refused to recognize the independence and annexation of Texas, even though the rest of the world and the vast majority of Texans were English speakers who supported joining the USA.

    Not only did it provoke the war generally, it fired the first shots, killing 11 of 70 American in a surprise attack with 2000 Mexican soldiers.


    The Saudis also have considerable blood on their hands by way of their genocidal assault on neighboring Yemen.
     
    There is nothing "genocidal" about the Saudis supporting the elected government of Yemen against Iran-funded rebels. The UN estimates 100 civilians are killed per month during the war, and that includes all three sides. Source http://bigstory.ap.org/article/43471432a8e949a7af6fc56928284d78/top-un-official-10000-civilians-killed-yemen-conflict

    This in a nation of 25 million. That is just about the least bloody civil war I've heard of. But Giraldi calls it "genocide" because he is a lying propagandist who hates America and wants to defame the side of the civil war we support.

    Finally, no surprise that Giraldi supports Qatar, funder of the Muslim Brotherhood and supporter of the Sharia-imposing former Morsi government of Egypt and the increasingly totalitarian Islamic dictatorship in Turkey.

    Legitimate govt of Yemen? Where do you get it?

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  149. @geo
    Still waiting for you to reveal some kind of repeatable experimental proof that telepathy exists and its speed is greater than that of light in a vacuum (186282.397 miles per second).....or is it possible the vacuum is inside your cranium and you just pull stuff out of your telepathic ass?

    Okay I will say this much to your pathetic insulting and infantile rantings, and I know that these offerings will simply over-tax your limited comprehension:

    First off all you do not speak for all of mankind, and for all of the universe, and for all of this and any other dimensions, meaning that you are not aware of any and all actions of occuring telepathy, basta.

    Secondly, and this will be so extremely advanced for your low IQ status, so as to only evoke ridicule and silly-ass laughter from yourself :

    Anything that someone can imagine IS real, somewhere in existance.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973, airborne qualified US army vet, and pro jazz musician.

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  150. @eric siverson
    The Zionist gangsters and the Texas gangster both have every right to control Texas and Palestine they both won their wars and defeated their enemies .

    The Zionist gangsters and the Texas gangster both have every right to control Texas and Palestine they both won their wars and defeated their enemies .

    If that’s all it takes, then don’t come sniveling to me when it’s your turn to get yer arse whupped!

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  151. @Authenticjazzman
    Arrafat was transfering his wife in Paris a million dollars a month of "Aid" money to support her
    high falluting parisian life-style, and I guess you think this is a just compensation for all of the "suffering" caused him by the Isreali "oppressors"

    Damn you are full of shit.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army Vet and pro jazz artisit.

    Damn you are full of shit.

    Yup, it’s even in de name!

    Too bad jealousy is the tribute mediocrity pays to genius, eh, [imaginary] genius?

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  152. @Jeff Davis
    Your comment implies the US is the real problem, but the Neocons/AIPAC/Zionists "own" the US so the real culprit is -- to state it bluntly --"the Jews". And for those who would say the little Jews, like little people everywhere -- ordinary, "man on the street" type people -- aren't involved in the crimes of the rich/powerful/ruthless Jews -- aren't responsible -- I have to point out that the little Jews admire and support their "important" -- ie rich and powerful -- tribal fellows. To be fair, part of that support is due to cultural/tribal indoctrination (brainwashing?), but ethics-free-tribal loyalty accounts for most of it. (A hopeful sign: Many younger Jews are learning, courtesy of the internet, to see past the Zionist brainwashing.)

    If the pattern of 5000 years holds -- and 5000 years suggests a very robust pattern -- then the Jews will yet again suffer the reaction that comes from their arrogant, abusive overreach. When 300 million non-Jewish Americans finally realize how they have been turned into Israel's poodle -- insulted, exploited, and looted in the process -- there will be hell to pay.

    I'm an American and a Jew. Do I issue this assessment-slash-warning, that it might wake up my fellow Jews to the danger before it's too late? No. I firmly believe it will not help. They will not wake up. They never have, and I am convinced they never will. Something in the head of the Jew makes him/her blind to the problem: "We have done nothing wrong! They hate us because we are Jews!" Blind. Sad.

    Hi JD, you’re absolutely right on this. I have Jewish friends that are divided in the same way you’ve described. It’s almost impossible, to make those who still think they are, and only them, the victims. A child throwing a pebble, or, adults protesting against an inhumane treatment, one that would put anyone in prison or hefty fine if you did it to a dog, is simply looked at as an act of terror and need to be defended with brutality. Our fellow citizens, Jews, are making sure this brutality is on cruise or accelerated, after all they “own” America, Europe, and they’ve just secured a fat chunk of the Arab world. It’s a heavy load to pile up. It’ll be heavier when it comes crushing!

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  153. Note to those who worship the constitution and the centralization of power it brings…

    Look who also was attracted to the idea of concentrating power in some central organisation.:

    …the workers must not only strive for one and indivisible German republic, but also, within this republic, for the most decisive centralization of power in the hands of the state authority.

    -Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League. London, March 1850

    Transcribed: by gearhart@ccsn.edu;

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/communist-league/1850-ad1.htm

    Welcome to the USSA!

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  154. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wally
    Don't flatter yourself.

    Parasite Israel wouldn't last a week with US taxpayers money.

    Tell me how Zionists — a minority of the world population by anyone’s count — can annex territory and violate rights with wild abandon and get away with it and still be “dimwitted”?

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    Simple. By suborning the power of the State via bribery and blackmail. Sounds like you're equating gangsterism with intelligence.
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  155. @anon
    Why doesn't Giraldi move to Iran ?
    Thats where his concerns and allegiance are. And maybe the source of his finances also ?

    I bet they would love a chubby bear like him.

    Ignorant chicken hiding behind a pseudonym.

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  156. Z-man says:

    I’ll tell how tiny, underdog Israel survives and flourishes..at the expense of the Palestinians. The American tax payer and the pernicious power of Big International Jew!

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  157. […] Philip Giraldi Global Research, June 14, 2017 The Unz Review 13 June […]

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  158. L.K says:
    @Rurik
    Osama had been dead for years

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpsvaTIa7Kc

    the whole absurdity with the fake SEAL team attack and the fake burial with the fake picture was all ludicrous

    http://temp.kiruna-nytt.se/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Osama-bin-laden-corpse-photo-is-fake.jpg

    even the 'situation room' photo was faked

    Rurik: “the whole absurdity with the fake SEAL team attack and the fake burial with the fake picture was all ludicrous”

    Yep. Remember how many times they changed the story? From memory I think it was at least 6 times… it went from a 1 hour long gun battle between the seals and OBL’s bodyguards down to OBL was alone, woke up, had no weapons at all, but tried to resist, so had to be killed.
    As is often the case, this ridiculous propaganda setup has kinda become ‘factual’ and ‘history’… no matter the idiocy of it and total lack of substantiating evidence.

    I’ve been meaning to ask you for your take re Pat Tillman’s death.
    After the fake story he’d been cut down by Al- Ciada MG fire, the army came up with the friendly fire version… it kinda stinks…

    Thoughts?

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    Hey L.K.,

    As is often the case, this ridiculous propaganda setup has kinda become ‘factual’ and ‘history’… no matter the idiocy of it and total lack of substantiating evidence
     
    as it ever was eh?

    whoever controls the narrative, controls 'reality'.

    people today take if for granted that Saddam did 9/11

    or that heroic passengers said 'let's roll!' and then took over the plane from the 'terrorists' before it "crashed" in Pennsylvania

    they believe that Osama was behind 9/11, (just as Saddam was) even tho there isn't one shred of evidence that ties Osama to it, and he had specifically said he had nothing to do with it. None of that matters, it's only what they present on the television screen and poof, the lemmingry follow suit.

    re Pat Tillman’s death.
     
    I remember when he joined the army after 9/11, and I thought wow, there's a real American hero. Willing to forgo a multi-million dollar career as a football star and risk death to avenge the Americans that were slaughtered by pure evil on that day.

    Then I heard the stories of his death. And how he died in a fierce gun battle with the Taliban. Then I heard that the stories were all lies and that he was killed by 'friendly fire'. Then I heard that he had become disillusioned by the lies about the war and about 9/11 and the whole farce, and that they blew his head off, (and then lied about it) rather than have this recruiting boon become some kind of anti-war activist.

    I don't know what happened exactly, (I wasn't there) but I do know he was killed in suspicious circumstanced by American fire when he was clearly in visual and voice range. His last words were "I'm Pat fucking Tillman — why are you shooting at me?"

    So I suspect he too was assassinated and then the lie machine kicked in as it always does. And most people would rather not know, if it's true, that our government are Satanic murderous demons.

    ps, you know LK, from time to time I use words like 'evil and Satanic, demon' and other less-than scientific or purely objective words to describe some people and events, but I just don't know of any objective words in the English language to describe what my government has been doing in the world if not to call it evil and Satanic. 'Talmudic' just doesn't pack the rhetorical punch. Most people don't even know what it means.
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  159. L.K says:

    US Senator for Kentucky Rand Paul: Yemen famine caused by US weapons – Senator rails against arms sales to S. Arabia

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  161. KA says:
    @anon
    http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/2017/june/christian-convert-faces-death-sentence-deportation-from-sweden-to-iran
    Iranian women who converted from Islam to Christianity faces death sentence.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/3179465/Hanged-for-being-a-Christian-in-Iran.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atefeh_Sahaaleh
    16 year old girl hanged from a crane publicly for the crime of adultery

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Mahmudnizhad
    17 year old girl from the bahai religion. Her and 8 other school teachers were hanged publicly from a crane.


    These are they guys that you and Giraldi are in love with.

    Always find some outliers , always look for events even if they are remote ,uncommon,and rare and use that . Before using see if you could fit it into some kind of awareness ,into some sort of ideas that interface with elements of moral,spiritual,individualism . If you could that would be great,if not work towards finding or creating an element of interest that has visceral / emotional appeal .
    If you are Tom Friedman,you could always find in the Syrian soulk who would be dreaming McDonald, love Paris Hilton,appreciate the movies like Born in USA,or Fourth of July or American Sniper or Rocky IV while Tom would ignore the relaxed secular ambience,the educated middle class,urban atmosphere and ignore the hatred to Zionism among them . As Tom Friedman now you will place a calls to some insiders in DNC or RNC and arrange a slot on CNN to talk about the immediate need for action in Syria because people are dying for American leadership and freedom.

    This creates a false reality . Just the constant drumbeat for war,regular provocations by Israel against Hamas and Lebanese manage to create a peace loving ,crisis resolving ,generous but courageous Israel ,through the play of words and selective representation of persons and facts and total obliteration of the context .

    In this imaginary world but made into reality , the outlier,the immaterial the emotional fit of expression( of Arabs) s take precedence over more destructive,more consistent,regular exploitative,illegal Israeli actions and over the calculated deliberate nonchalant murderous policy of Israel .

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  162. Taras77 says:
    @Quartermaster
    The Orange Revolution was the work of Soros. Maidan, however, belongs to the Ukrainians themselves. They had no desire to be sold out to Putin by Yanukovich.

    I think nuland and maybe mccain had a fair amount to do with it.

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  163. @Wizard of Oz
    You deny that the Navy Seals killed Osama bin Laden at Abbottabad which is what President Obama and Al Qaeda both said happened and I ask you what your version is. I wasn't asking for something I would believe - only what you believe or say happened. You now say that you could answer it but don't say why you won't. Your readers must all have sussed by now that it is the alcoholic's lack of mental stamina and the fabulist's need to make something up which makes some sense that causes you to retreat in a funk.

    Resorting to name-calling or merely projecting again? It should be quite clear to anyone who reads both of our comments as to who is the alcoholic out of the two of us and it’s hardly surprising that you would need something. No doubt the plonk* provides you with the fortitude that enables you to continue posting here despite the constant corrections and general ridicule that you receive from so many different Unz commenters.

    If you and Quartermaster are having a competition as to whose picture Jonathan Revusky might want to use to illustrate the classic HIQI, that’s enough, you win hands down. Send the pic already.

    *Australian for cheap wine, favoured by winos and apparently at least one HIQI.

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    Sorry mate, it was you that started the name-calling in your first post to Wiz. The plonk's really turned you into an ocker.
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  164. @Jeff Davis
    Your comment implies the US is the real problem, but the Neocons/AIPAC/Zionists "own" the US so the real culprit is -- to state it bluntly --"the Jews". And for those who would say the little Jews, like little people everywhere -- ordinary, "man on the street" type people -- aren't involved in the crimes of the rich/powerful/ruthless Jews -- aren't responsible -- I have to point out that the little Jews admire and support their "important" -- ie rich and powerful -- tribal fellows. To be fair, part of that support is due to cultural/tribal indoctrination (brainwashing?), but ethics-free-tribal loyalty accounts for most of it. (A hopeful sign: Many younger Jews are learning, courtesy of the internet, to see past the Zionist brainwashing.)

    If the pattern of 5000 years holds -- and 5000 years suggests a very robust pattern -- then the Jews will yet again suffer the reaction that comes from their arrogant, abusive overreach. When 300 million non-Jewish Americans finally realize how they have been turned into Israel's poodle -- insulted, exploited, and looted in the process -- there will be hell to pay.

    I'm an American and a Jew. Do I issue this assessment-slash-warning, that it might wake up my fellow Jews to the danger before it's too late? No. I firmly believe it will not help. They will not wake up. They never have, and I am convinced they never will. Something in the head of the Jew makes him/her blind to the problem: "We have done nothing wrong! They hate us because we are Jews!" Blind. Sad.

    Unfortunately a major major war with some real power (and not some joke like Iraq) might come sooner than that. Or perhaps that would be the only thing that scales the empire down. I think the slumber is so deep that it will take probably a generational shift to see the forest for the trees as far as most Americans are concerned. And looking at the pace things are moving, you know which one will come earlier

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  165. geokat62 says:
    @Jeff Davis
    Your comment implies the US is the real problem, but the Neocons/AIPAC/Zionists "own" the US so the real culprit is -- to state it bluntly --"the Jews". And for those who would say the little Jews, like little people everywhere -- ordinary, "man on the street" type people -- aren't involved in the crimes of the rich/powerful/ruthless Jews -- aren't responsible -- I have to point out that the little Jews admire and support their "important" -- ie rich and powerful -- tribal fellows. To be fair, part of that support is due to cultural/tribal indoctrination (brainwashing?), but ethics-free-tribal loyalty accounts for most of it. (A hopeful sign: Many younger Jews are learning, courtesy of the internet, to see past the Zionist brainwashing.)

    If the pattern of 5000 years holds -- and 5000 years suggests a very robust pattern -- then the Jews will yet again suffer the reaction that comes from their arrogant, abusive overreach. When 300 million non-Jewish Americans finally realize how they have been turned into Israel's poodle -- insulted, exploited, and looted in the process -- there will be hell to pay.

    I'm an American and a Jew. Do I issue this assessment-slash-warning, that it might wake up my fellow Jews to the danger before it's too late? No. I firmly believe it will not help. They will not wake up. They never have, and I am convinced they never will. Something in the head of the Jew makes him/her blind to the problem: "We have done nothing wrong! They hate us because we are Jews!" Blind. Sad.

    When 300 million non-Jewish Americans finally realize how they have been turned into Israel’s poodle — insulted, exploited, and looted in the process — there will be hell to pay.

    I’m an American and a Jew. Do I issue this assessment-slash-warning, that it might wake up my fellow Jews to the danger before it’s too late? No. I firmly believe it will not help. They will not wake up. They never have, and I am convinced they never will. Something in the head of the Jew makes him/her blind to the problem: “We have done nothing wrong! They hate us because we are Jews!” Blind. Sad.

    Sad, indeed, Jeff. Thanks for pointing out the futility of trying to forewarn them about the consequences of their actions. I was convinced that if I logically presented a case that illustrated the dire consequences that would follow from their supporting The Lobby’s policy positions, they would cease and desist. But alas what Uri Avnery once said must be true:

    LOGIC WAS not given to the People of Israel on Mount Sinai, but handed down from Mount Olympus to the ancient Greeks.

    And this truism not only applies to your coreligionists, it also applies to their sycophantic sidekicks the evangelicals, both the currently and formerly practicing variety.

    Something in the head of the Jew makes him/her blind to the problem:

    And some actually have the gall to mock us as having JBD, “Jews on the Brain Disease”!

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  166. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Qatar did not and does not support Hezbollah.
    Qatar is accused of supporting Terrorist organizations ISIS, Al-Nusra.front, and or their affiliate groups, in Syria .Hamas is lumped up with it to force it to change its policies .
    The aim to limit Qatar encouragement in regional and global affairs and stop it from increasing its influence.Because they see it as subordinate and won’t accept Qatar as equal .
    IMHO , this is all a show and US is pulling all the strings. Remember both Qatar , Saudi, And UAE are allies of US . I think Qatar itself has 3-5 base that US uses and Qatar hosts the largest US military base in the Mideast”some 11,000 US military personnel”. The United State has been working on implementing “shape a new century favorable to American principles and interests.” The main obstacle in the region are Syria and Iran . Forget everything you hear in the Media for a minutes ,because the issue with Iran and Syria is about state sovereignty and independent of foreign and local policies.Simply put, Syria and Iran Do not listen to what the US wants them to do to serve US interests. A Nuclear energy Iran means more rich and prosperity which makes it more easier for Iran to advance its economy and technology. same thing for Syria , Syrian Coastline is estimated to have the largest deposit of natural gas in the world. Also, Syria and Iran are enemies off Israel, by making them weak , you’re boosting Israel strength in the region. Israel still occupies the Syrian Golan heights and refuses to give it up,bonus fact, Natural gas was discovered in Golan Heights and Genie Oil and Gas Ltd subsidiary is doing the work thier . The over all goal is to legitimize a campaign against any group(IE Hamas and Hezbollah) or state (Syria and Iran, possibly Iraq again )that is consider hostile to :A)Israel in the region, and B) to the expanding of US interests in the region .

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    Business uber alles!
    Despite accusations, F-15 sale agreed.
    "Qatar's Ministry of Defense said on Wednesday the country signed a deal to buy F-15 fighter jets from the United States for $12 billion."
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-gulf-qatar-boeing-idUSKBN19531Y
    Qatar signs $12 billion deal to buy F-15 jets from U.S.
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  167. @Anon
    Tell me how Zionists -- a minority of the world population by anyone's count -- can annex territory and violate rights with wild abandon and get away with it and still be "dimwitted"?

    Simple. By suborning the power of the State via bribery and blackmail. Sounds like you’re equating gangsterism with intelligence.

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  168. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @NoseytheDuke
    Resorting to name-calling or merely projecting again? It should be quite clear to anyone who reads both of our comments as to who is the alcoholic out of the two of us and it's hardly surprising that you would need something. No doubt the plonk* provides you with the fortitude that enables you to continue posting here despite the constant corrections and general ridicule that you receive from so many different Unz commenters.

    If you and Quartermaster are having a competition as to whose picture Jonathan Revusky might want to use to illustrate the classic HIQI, that's enough, you win hands down. Send the pic already.

    *Australian for cheap wine, favoured by winos and apparently at least one HIQI.

    Sorry mate, it was you that started the name-calling in your first post to Wiz. The plonk’s really turned you into an ocker.

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    Thanks for making that point. I have actually been calling him as an alcoholic with a consequent lack of mental stamina for about a year as i picked him as surely as my relevant life experience picked Udo Ulfkotte [see the Roth article and threas] as a pathetic creature that one could meet hanging round political parties and think tanks. (95% probability for that one).. Nosey has never denied it despite many repetitions or made any attempt to prove mental fitness for moŕe than the short squib..

    He not only appears to take Revusky seriously but seems to think he has a high enough IQ to be worth listening to on IQ or anyone else's brains or intellectual style. I do not class Revusky as one of tbe five or six identifiable non-nutters that one can find regularly making comments on UR or even the two or three more who may lead one to interesting information.

    It interests me that he let my recent remark that Australia didn't have a Deep State pass without objection. It is clearly true but a conspiratorially minded outsider mightn't know or accept that. Perhaps Nosey's outsider"s conspiracy theories are confined to the much larger country where he had so much bewildering experience.
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  169. @AmericaFirstNow
    Mr Kushner’s father Charles was in discussions with Sheikh Hamid .. over funding, and sought $500m but that Qatar said Charles Kushner would have to find $1.2bn from elsewhere. These talks, according to Swisher, were going on until a few months ago.
     
    Did Donald Trump denounce Qatar as a ‘sponsor of terrorism’ due to failed business deals?
     
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/donald-trump-qatar-sponsor-terrorism-business-deals-fail-us-president-gulf-emirate-saudi-arabia-uae-a7788151.html

    I also saw an interesting segment on BBC World News last night with correspondent Yolande Knell as she conveyed that Qatar was supporting Hamas in Gaza and was the only Gulf state to actually have a sheikh (the emir) visit there and meet with the Hamas leader!:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/24/world/middleeast/pledging-400-million-qatari-emir-makes-historic-visit-to-gaza-strip.html

     So no surprise Netanyahu has his Israel 1st AIPAC agent Kushner have Trump go after Qatar because of such! Not to mention for the friendly relations Qatar has with Iran which Netanyahu and Kushner can’t like either! The US still did the big billion dollar F-15 deal with Qatar though despite the rising tension!:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40287570?ocid=socialflow_twitter

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    "...Yolande Knell as she conveyed that Qatar was supporting Hamas in Gaza..."

    True. Which is why Hamas dutifully maligns Assad. This translates into certain anti-Israel/pro-Palestinian types (unable to unpack this themselves) supporting rebels/terrorists that serve Zionist interest. Typical ME cluster-bugger.

    [And I might add, mirrored by 'freedom on speech' WN's (as in battles of Berkeley and Portland) who support Israel, apparently oblivious to fact that Ziocon-induced wars are the cause of mass refugee flight (and economic emigration through non-functioning Libya) that they seem to despise. Typical USA cluster-bugger.]

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  170. Not really, saying that a person who claims OBL was killed in the Pakistan raid is an idiot is not name calling, more like simply stating a fact, besides, Wiz has been called an idiot here by so many people it is practically an identifier.

    The Wiz has called me an alcoholic previously on other threads and I am no such thing nor would he know if even I was. Like I said, check both of our comment histories and judge for yourself.

    As for me being an ocker, hardly, not with my accent chum.

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  171. @Anon
    Sorry mate, it was you that started the name-calling in your first post to Wiz. The plonk's really turned you into an ocker.

    Thanks for making that point. I have actually been calling him as an alcoholic with a consequent lack of mental stamina for about a year as i picked him as surely as my relevant life experience picked Udo Ulfkotte [see the Roth article and threas] as a pathetic creature that one could meet hanging round political parties and think tanks. (95% probability for that one).. Nosey has never denied it despite many repetitions or made any attempt to prove mental fitness for moŕe than the short squib..

    He not only appears to take Revusky seriously but seems to think he has a high enough IQ to be worth listening to on IQ or anyone else’s brains or intellectual style. I do not class Revusky as one of tbe five or six identifiable non-nutters that one can find regularly making comments on UR or even the two or three more who may lead one to interesting information.

    It interests me that he let my recent remark that Australia didn’t have a Deep State pass without objection. It is clearly true but a conspiratorially minded outsider mightn’t know or accept that. Perhaps Nosey’s outsider”s conspiracy theories are confined to the much larger country where he had so much bewildering experience.

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    Udo Ulfkotte... .... a pathetic creature
     
    http://blog.cancaonova.com/diarioespiritual/files/2015/04/Jesus-no-sinédrio-1.jpg

    crucify him!

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  172. Rurik says:
    @L.K
    Rurik: "the whole absurdity with the fake SEAL team attack and the fake burial with the fake picture was all ludicrous"

    Yep. Remember how many times they changed the story? From memory I think it was at least 6 times... it went from a 1 hour long gun battle between the seals and OBL's bodyguards down to OBL was alone, woke up, had no weapons at all, but tried to resist, so had to be killed.
    As is often the case, this ridiculous propaganda setup has kinda become 'factual' and 'history'... no matter the idiocy of it and total lack of substantiating evidence.

    I've been meaning to ask you for your take re Pat Tillman's death.
    After the fake story he'd been cut down by Al- Ciada MG fire, the army came up with the friendly fire version... it kinda stinks...

    Thoughts?

    Hey L.K.,

    As is often the case, this ridiculous propaganda setup has kinda become ‘factual’ and ‘history’… no matter the idiocy of it and total lack of substantiating evidence

    as it ever was eh?

    whoever controls the narrative, controls ‘reality’.

    people today take if for granted that Saddam did 9/11

    or that heroic passengers said ‘let’s roll!’ and then took over the plane from the ‘terrorists’ before it “crashed” in Pennsylvania

    they believe that Osama was behind 9/11, (just as Saddam was) even tho there isn’t one shred of evidence that ties Osama to it, and he had specifically said he had nothing to do with it. None of that matters, it’s only what they present on the television screen and poof, the lemmingry follow suit.

    re Pat Tillman’s death.

    I remember when he joined the army after 9/11, and I thought wow, there’s a real American hero. Willing to forgo a multi-million dollar career as a football star and risk death to avenge the Americans that were slaughtered by pure evil on that day.

    Then I heard the stories of his death. And how he died in a fierce gun battle with the Taliban. Then I heard that the stories were all lies and that he was killed by ‘friendly fire’. Then I heard that he had become disillusioned by the lies about the war and about 9/11 and the whole farce, and that they blew his head off, (and then lied about it) rather than have this recruiting boon become some kind of anti-war activist.

    I don’t know what happened exactly, (I wasn’t there) but I do know he was killed in suspicious circumstanced by American fire when he was clearly in visual and voice range. His last words were “I’m Pat fucking Tillman — why are you shooting at me?”

    So I suspect he too was assassinated and then the lie machine kicked in as it always does. And most people would rather not know, if it’s true, that our government are Satanic murderous demons.

    ps, you know LK, from time to time I use words like ‘evil and Satanic, demon’ and other less-than scientific or purely objective words to describe some people and events, but I just don’t know of any objective words in the English language to describe what my government has been doing in the world if not to call it evil and Satanic. ‘Talmudic’ just doesn’t pack the rhetorical punch. Most people don’t even know what it means.

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    I dunno if you have read this, but here goes, by Justin Raimondo @ http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2007/07/30/who-killed-pat-tillman/

    His enlistment provoked a personal letter from then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and his death provided the War Party with the opportunity to canonize him as a martyr to The Cause. An elaborate narrative was conjured by administration spinmeisters in the wake of his death, valorizing him as an example to be followed.

    There was just one problem: Tillman wasn’t a gung-ho warmonger. The San Francisco Chronicle reports:

    "A side of Pat Tillman not widely known – a fiercely independent thinker who enlisted, fought, and died in service to his country yet was critical of President Bush and opposed the war in Iraq, where he served a tour of duty. He was an avid reader whose interests ranged from history books … to works of leftist Noam Chomsky, a favorite author.”

    Apparently a meeting between Tillman and Chomsky was planned for after Pat’s return to the U.S., but he never returned. Instead, he was killed – under circumstances that Pat’s mother, Mary, has always characterized as "murky," at best, and that seem, to my eye, at least, suspicious at worst. And it isn’t just me. Now the release of thousands of pages of documents by the Pentagon, as the result of a Freedom of Information Act request, raise even more questions about the circumstances surrounding Pat Tillman’s death:

    "Army medical examiners were suspicious about the close proximity of the three bullet holes in Pat Tillman’s forehead and tried without success to get authorities to investigate whether the former NFL player’s death amounted to a crime, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press.

    "’The medical evidence did not match up with the, with the scenario as described,’ a doctor who examined Tillman’s body after he was killed on the battlefield in Afghanistan in 2004 told investigators.

    "The doctors – whose names were blacked out – said that the bullet holes were so close together that it appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16 fired from a mere 10 yards or so away."
     

    Our masters probably think we are mushroom & treat us as such, probably 'cause 98% of us behave as such; so they keep us in the dark & feed us BS...
    , @L.K
    Rurik: "Willing to forgo a multi-million dollar career as a football star and risk death to avenge the Americans that were slaughtered by pure evil on that day."

    Yes, and the evil doers are still free, many of them living comfortable lives in the ZUSA & only a few brave hearts, such as C. Bollyn, have figured out what truly happened & had the balls to speak out.

    Evil is as good a word as any... In Syria, as in Libya and other locations before, the ZUSA & its allies have been recruiting/funding/training Wahhabi mercenaries to try to bring about regime change or, failing that, total chaos, permanent war and partition.

    Former Ranger Jack Murphy went to Turkey and Jordan and interviewed several ZUS's special forces operatives who have been training the "rebels". Jack Murphy is an eight year Army Special Operations veteran who served as a Sniper and Team Leader in 3rd Ranger Battalion and as a Senior Weapons Sergeant on a Military Free Fall team in 5th Special Forces Group.
    The piece is behind a pay wall, but several journalists have quoted from it.
    Dean Parker wrote about it in Sept.2016:

    A former US Army Ranger over at Sofrep.com which bills itself as a kind of unofficial newsletter of the US Special Forces has a fascinating scoop on the attitudes of American soldiers to their Syria training mission. Read the opening paragraph:
    "Nobody believes in it. You're like, 'Fuck this,'" a former Green Beret says of America's covert and clandestine programs to train and arm Syrian militias. "Everyone on the ground knows they are jihadis. No one on the ground believes in this mission or this effort, and they know they are just training the next generation of jihadis, so they are sabotaging it by saying, 'Fuck it, who cares?'"
    ...
    It then chronicles how America got embroiled in a proxy war versus the Syrian state via the CIA noting that:
    Distinguishing between the FSA and al-Nusra is impossible, because they are virtually the same organization. As early as 2013, FSA commanders were defecting with their entire units to join al-Nusra. There, they still retain the FSA monicker, but it is merely for show, to give the appearance of secularism so they can maintain access to weaponry provided by the CIA and Saudi intelligence services. The reality is that the FSA is little more than a cover for the al-Qaeda-affiliated al-Nusra. ...
    The special soldiers entrusted with the task, however, quickly grew disillusioned. One complaint was the seeming low quality of the recruits, another their apparently questionable loyalties:
    The rebels know how to sell themselves to the Americans during such interviews, but they still let things slip occasionally. "I don't understand why people don't like al-Nusra," one rebel told the American soldiers. Many had sympathies with the terrorist groups such as Nusra and ISIS. ...
    Among the rebels that U.S. Special Forces and Turkish Special Forces were training, "A good 95 percent of them were either working in terrorist organizations or were sympathetic to them," a Green Beret associated with the program said, adding, "A good majority of them admitted that they had no issues with ISIS and that their issue was with the Kurds and the Syrian regime." Like the militias being trained in Jordan, the rebels being trained in Turkey were not ready for combat. "It is not in their blood to be fighters. A large majority of them are criminals," a Green Beret said. Many were foreign fighters, some from Iraq. One even turned out to be a Lebanese drug smuggler.

    "The majority of these guys have been coached on what to say at the training site and give cookie-cutter answers," the Special Forces soldier told SOFREP. They would portray themselves as being secular, but the Americans could tell who the hardliners were because they didn't smoke (jihadis follow Wahhabi Islam, which does not permit it) and looked at the Green Berets with disdain.
     
    Full article can be read at http://russia-insider.com/en/nobody-believes-it-everyone-ground-knows-they-are-jihadis-us-special-forces-hate-their-syria-mission
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  173. Rurik says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Thanks for making that point. I have actually been calling him as an alcoholic with a consequent lack of mental stamina for about a year as i picked him as surely as my relevant life experience picked Udo Ulfkotte [see the Roth article and threas] as a pathetic creature that one could meet hanging round political parties and think tanks. (95% probability for that one).. Nosey has never denied it despite many repetitions or made any attempt to prove mental fitness for moŕe than the short squib..

    He not only appears to take Revusky seriously but seems to think he has a high enough IQ to be worth listening to on IQ or anyone else's brains or intellectual style. I do not class Revusky as one of tbe five or six identifiable non-nutters that one can find regularly making comments on UR or even the two or three more who may lead one to interesting information.

    It interests me that he let my recent remark that Australia didn't have a Deep State pass without objection. It is clearly true but a conspiratorially minded outsider mightn't know or accept that. Perhaps Nosey's outsider"s conspiracy theories are confined to the much larger country where he had so much bewildering experience.

    Udo Ulfkotte… …. a pathetic creature


    crucify him!

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    No but I'll give him 1500 years for his influence to start being good by modern standards (just).
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  174. @Carroll Price
    Not my argument, but with little effort, most 10th graders could come-up with a dozen Bin Laden tales more believable than Obama's version.

    I’m sure those 10th graders have already done their time in 8th grade helping out some UR conspiracy theorists. Simple question: why did Al Qaeda threaten retaliation for the Seals killing of ObL? Another simple question: who could have persuaded Obama rhat he needn’t worry about a Deep Throat if he put on a charsde such ss is allegef on this thread?

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    Simple question: why did Al Qaeda threaten retaliation for the Seals killing of ObL? Another simple question: who could have persuaded Obama rhat he needn’t worry about a Deep Throat if he put on a charsde such ss is allegef on this thread?
     
    Probably the same people who produced the fake Bin Laden tapes to fool simpletons like you, while, at the same time, giving George Bush a much needed boost to clinch his reelection in 2012. You're way too easy.
    , @Bill Jones
    You do realize "Al Qaeda" is the CIA, don't you?
    , @NoseytheDuke
    It seems that Anon was correct in stating that I should not have called you an idiot, you proclaim yourself to be one in almost every one of your comments, that is those that are even intelligible.
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  175. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @KA
    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-13/soros-s-native-hungary-approves-crackdown-on-foreign-funded-ngos

    But NYT doesn't report this socio-politically important event. It does report on the meager number of activists protesting against Putin.


    Forget about WW2 , NYT and WaPo and CNN and FOX , the entire media complex was asking for wars against Iraq, Syria,Saudi Arab, Yemen, Somalia, Libya and Sudan in 2002 . For the neocons , order of attacking was for simple reasons that attacking Iraq would resonate with hatred and anger and hubris which were generated by 911. Once the war began, the neocons had already logically figured out that the result would enable to move down ( or up) the chain to attack other countries including Iran and Pakistan ( yes Pakistan )
    Their logic was this , if wars against Iraq became success , it could be used as a template to bring democracy and destroy terrorism , to satisfy the yearning of Arab women fir freedom , to stamp out the entire terrorism even from the remotest cornets of Arab . NYT and other already was using Libya as a template few years later and Neocons were promising the spontaneous uprising of Shia against Saddam which then would galvanize Shia of Iran ( back then Shia was neocons friends and hopes - the Shia was then MEK to them , entire Shia) Soros was using color revolution as a template . Elite in media , administration, defense , and lobbyists were reminding Putin that maidan revolution ( Ukraine ) would come to Moscow.

    Returning to the logic of the neocons, if war didn't become success , then ensuing chaos could be used to ( ( a true American like Reagan would withdraw ) blame neighboring countries and attack neighboring countries, use the chaos to engineer more Salavodiran , more Harii type killings , and use the chaos to upend the order of the society .
    Either way neocon win and media keeps everything visible to the public without letting know anybody how media is entirely controlled by the neocons . Media makes sure that neither the nature and reasons of ME conflicts nor who the master is ever outed or made visible.

    While Saddam , Basher , Ahmednezad and Putin are demonized overtly crudely and eentbusustically with total consensus on tone , wording , and reasons , Trump is demonized in more legalistic , moralistic , cultural frames .

    NBC is hauled up to the public court for Megan Kelly's interview with Alex Jones but the show on Julious Caesar that overtly points to killing of a sitting president gets revune boosting covering in NYT.

    Is that meant to be a reply to my comment to which it purports on the face of it to reply? If so please explain the relevance.

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  176. @geo
    Still waiting for you to reveal some kind of repeatable experimental proof that telepathy exists and its speed is greater than that of light in a vacuum (186282.397 miles per second).....or is it possible the vacuum is inside your cranium and you just pull stuff out of your telepathic ass?

    In 1935, EPR(Einstein/Rosen/Podolsky) provided the first theoretical prediction of “non’local” quantum effects.

    https://arxiv.org/pdf/1506.04262.pdf

    Then

    In the early 1980s, while working on his PhD thesis…he performed the elusive “Bell test experiments” that showed that Albert Einstein, Boris Podolsky and Nathan Rosen’s reductio ad absurdum of quantum mechanics, namely that it implied ‘ghostly action at a distance’, did in fact appear to be realised when two particles were separated by an arbitrarily large distance …

    The “faster than the speed of light” thing is established. It just happens outside 4D space-time.

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  177. RobinG says:
    @Anonymous
    Qatar did not and does not support Hezbollah.
    Qatar is accused of supporting Terrorist organizations ISIS, Al-Nusra.front, and or their affiliate groups, in Syria .Hamas is lumped up with it to force it to change its policies .
    The aim to limit Qatar encouragement in regional and global affairs and stop it from increasing its influence.Because they see it as subordinate and won't accept Qatar as equal .
    IMHO , this is all a show and US is pulling all the strings. Remember both Qatar , Saudi, And UAE are allies of US . I think Qatar itself has 3-5 base that US uses and Qatar hosts the largest US military base in the Mideast"some 11,000 US military personnel". The United State has been working on implementing "shape a new century favorable to American principles and interests." The main obstacle in the region are Syria and Iran . Forget everything you hear in the Media for a minutes ,because the issue with Iran and Syria is about state sovereignty and independent of foreign and local policies.Simply put, Syria and Iran Do not listen to what the US wants them to do to serve US interests. A Nuclear energy Iran means more rich and prosperity which makes it more easier for Iran to advance its economy and technology. same thing for Syria , Syrian Coastline is estimated to have the largest deposit of natural gas in the world. Also, Syria and Iran are enemies off Israel, by making them weak , you're boosting Israel strength in the region. Israel still occupies the Syrian Golan heights and refuses to give it up,bonus fact, Natural gas was discovered in Golan Heights and Genie Oil and Gas Ltd subsidiary is doing the work thier . The over all goal is to legitimize a campaign against any group(IE Hamas and Hezbollah) or state (Syria and Iran, possibly Iraq again )that is consider hostile to :A)Israel in the region, and B) to the expanding of US interests in the region .

    Business uber alles!
    Despite accusations, F-15 sale agreed.
    “Qatar’s Ministry of Defense said on Wednesday the country signed a deal to buy F-15 fighter jets from the United States for $12 billion.”

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-gulf-qatar-boeing-idUSKBN19531Y

    Qatar signs $12 billion deal to buy F-15 jets from U.S.

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  178. RobinG says:
    @AmericaFirstNow
    I also saw an interesting segment on BBC World News last night with correspondent Yolande Knell as she conveyed that Qatar was supporting Hamas in Gaza and was the only Gulf state to actually have a sheikh (the emir) visit there and meet with the Hamas leader!:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/24/world/middleeast/pledging-400-million-qatari-emir-makes-historic-visit-to-gaza-strip.html

     So no surprise Netanyahu has his Israel 1st AIPAC agent Kushner have Trump go after Qatar because of such! Not to mention for the friendly relations Qatar has with Iran which Netanyahu and Kushner can't like either! The US still did the big billion dollar F-15 deal with Qatar though despite the rising tension!:

    ‎http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40287570?ocid=socialflow_twitter

    “…Yolande Knell as she conveyed that Qatar was supporting Hamas in Gaza…”

    True. Which is why Hamas dutifully maligns Assad. This translates into certain anti-Israel/pro-Palestinian types (unable to unpack this themselves) supporting rebels/terrorists that serve Zionist interest. Typical ME cluster-bugger.

    [And I might add, mirrored by 'freedom on speech' WN's (as in battles of Berkeley and Portland) who support Israel, apparently oblivious to fact that Ziocon-induced wars are the cause of mass refugee flight (and economic emigration through non-functioning Libya) that they seem to despise. Typical USA cluster-bugger.]

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    Exactly! The Israeli Likudnik Oded Yinon neocon plan couldn't be working out better for Netanyahu, neocons and rest of the Israel Lobby (scroll to see what the Israeli mentioned at following link):

    http://america-hijacked.com/2014/07/13/the-unfolding-of-yinons-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east-the-crisis-in-iraq-and-the-centrality-of-the-national-interest-of-israel/

    The following Press TV interview still applies:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48_ZeiK5gqU
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  179. @Wizard of Oz
    I'm sure those 10th graders have already done their time in 8th grade helping out some UR conspiracy theorists. Simple question: why did Al Qaeda threaten retaliation for the Seals killing of ObL? Another simple question: who could have persuaded Obama rhat he needn't worry about a Deep Throat if he put on a charsde such ss is allegef on this thread?

    Simple question: why did Al Qaeda threaten retaliation for the Seals killing of ObL? Another simple question: who could have persuaded Obama rhat he needn’t worry about a Deep Throat if he put on a charsde such ss is allegef on this thread?

    Probably the same people who produced the fake Bin Laden tapes to fool simpletons like you, while, at the same time, giving George Bush a much needed boost to clinch his reelection in 2012. You’re way too easy.

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    A proper reply, if it does not name mames, still spells out the reasoning for motivation and method. And what about the first question? But you aren't really switched on are you? Proof:you didn't even notice you had said George Bush instead of Obama.

    Try again if you are serious and want to justify your right to be rude and dismissive instead of cogent and relevant.
    , @AmericaFirstNow
    No fake OBL tapes! They were real! See following article from Haaretz:

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/report-bin-laden-warned-u-s-over-security-of-palestine-in-final-tape-1.360595

    Following from UK Guardian:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/oct/30/alqaida.september11

    Bin Laden fatwas mentioned in following youtube as well:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaA7hh0FeGw&list=PLfrlsC1yJ2dTKGJXOEaRryaK1ibxbLp17
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  180. I find it odd that an article about lies posts this “at the expense of Mexico”

    the fact of the matter is not many people live in “el norte” at the time and the US government was tasked with helping settlers when confronted by hostiles. So the US offered to buy the land but Mexico refused and the a war broke out. But in the end the US paid for the land…..actually it was just a “credit” entry but still it seems “truth” is hard to come by these days.

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  181. @Carroll Price

    Simple question: why did Al Qaeda threaten retaliation for the Seals killing of ObL? Another simple question: who could have persuaded Obama rhat he needn’t worry about a Deep Throat if he put on a charsde such ss is allegef on this thread?
     
    Probably the same people who produced the fake Bin Laden tapes to fool simpletons like you, while, at the same time, giving George Bush a much needed boost to clinch his reelection in 2012. You're way too easy.

    A proper reply, if it does not name mames, still spells out the reasoning for motivation and method. And what about the first question? But you aren’t really switched on are you? Proof:you didn’t even notice you had said George Bush instead of Obama.

    Try again if you are serious and want to justify your right to be rude and dismissive instead of cogent and relevant.

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    The answer to your 1st question was included in the prior explanation. But to spell-it out for you, what makes you assume it was Al Qaeda that made the threats? Do you not understand that the same people who produced the fake bin Laden tapes would have also faked the threats connected with Obama's fictionalized version of Bin Laden's death? Just because Washington said it happened (Al Qaeda making the threat) don't mean it happened. In fact the exact opposite is invariably the case. My mistake on the date of George Bush's re-election which I think would have been in 2004.
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  182. @RobinG
    "...Yolande Knell as she conveyed that Qatar was supporting Hamas in Gaza..."

    True. Which is why Hamas dutifully maligns Assad. This translates into certain anti-Israel/pro-Palestinian types (unable to unpack this themselves) supporting rebels/terrorists that serve Zionist interest. Typical ME cluster-bugger.

    [And I might add, mirrored by 'freedom on speech' WN's (as in battles of Berkeley and Portland) who support Israel, apparently oblivious to fact that Ziocon-induced wars are the cause of mass refugee flight (and economic emigration through non-functioning Libya) that they seem to despise. Typical USA cluster-bugger.]

    Exactly! The Israeli Likudnik Oded Yinon neocon plan couldn’t be working out better for Netanyahu, neocons and rest of the Israel Lobby (scroll to see what the Israeli mentioned at following link):

    http://america-hijacked.com/2014/07/13/the-unfolding-of-yinons-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east-the-crisis-in-iraq-and-the-centrality-of-the-national-interest-of-israel/

    The following Press TV interview still applies:

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  183. @Carroll Price

    Simple question: why did Al Qaeda threaten retaliation for the Seals killing of ObL? Another simple question: who could have persuaded Obama rhat he needn’t worry about a Deep Throat if he put on a charsde such ss is allegef on this thread?
     
    Probably the same people who produced the fake Bin Laden tapes to fool simpletons like you, while, at the same time, giving George Bush a much needed boost to clinch his reelection in 2012. You're way too easy.

    No fake OBL tapes! They were real! See following article from Haaretz:

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/report-bin-laden-warned-u-s-over-security-of-palestine-in-final-tape-1.360595

    Following from UK Guardian:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/oct/30/alqaida.september11

    Bin Laden fatwas mentioned in following youtube as well:

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    I do like well done satire, please play again soon.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    It seems strange that energetic practical people in a famously can-do country don't take some obvious steps to counter the divisive uncertainties amd suspicions about lies thst afflict America. There must be enough authentic recordings of ObL's voice (or at least that are probables and consistent with one another when compared electronically) for audio engineets to be able to test each claimed but contested recording for authenticity. Any cost, even without volunteered expertise, would be well withonthe scope of crowdfunding from UR comenters alone if George Soros won't fork out petty cash.

    To establish that all the recordings appeared to be genuine would be a big thing. To establish that even two out of ten made in his supposed later years were fake would also be a big deal. Who the hell could have wanted to do something so likely to come unstuck?!

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  184. @Wizard of Oz
    I'm sure those 10th graders have already done their time in 8th grade helping out some UR conspiracy theorists. Simple question: why did Al Qaeda threaten retaliation for the Seals killing of ObL? Another simple question: who could have persuaded Obama rhat he needn't worry about a Deep Throat if he put on a charsde such ss is allegef on this thread?

    You do realize “Al Qaeda” is the CIA, don’t you?

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    Connected to the CIA in its origins: no argument. But "is the CIA"??? What do you mean?
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  185. Art says:
    @Jeff Davis
    Your comment implies the US is the real problem, but the Neocons/AIPAC/Zionists "own" the US so the real culprit is -- to state it bluntly --"the Jews". And for those who would say the little Jews, like little people everywhere -- ordinary, "man on the street" type people -- aren't involved in the crimes of the rich/powerful/ruthless Jews -- aren't responsible -- I have to point out that the little Jews admire and support their "important" -- ie rich and powerful -- tribal fellows. To be fair, part of that support is due to cultural/tribal indoctrination (brainwashing?), but ethics-free-tribal loyalty accounts for most of it. (A hopeful sign: Many younger Jews are learning, courtesy of the internet, to see past the Zionist brainwashing.)

    If the pattern of 5000 years holds -- and 5000 years suggests a very robust pattern -- then the Jews will yet again suffer the reaction that comes from their arrogant, abusive overreach. When 300 million non-Jewish Americans finally realize how they have been turned into Israel's poodle -- insulted, exploited, and looted in the process -- there will be hell to pay.

    I'm an American and a Jew. Do I issue this assessment-slash-warning, that it might wake up my fellow Jews to the danger before it's too late? No. I firmly believe it will not help. They will not wake up. They never have, and I am convinced they never will. Something in the head of the Jew makes him/her blind to the problem: "We have done nothing wrong! They hate us because we are Jews!" Blind. Sad.

    Something in the head of the Jew makes him/her blind to the problem: “We have done nothing wrong! They hate us because we are Jews!” Blind. Sad.

    Jeff Davis,

    You, as a Jew, are independently saying what I have been talking about with the Big Jew, Little Jew, and Lemming analogies. From birth, the “Jew victim culture” is so deeply indoctrinated, that for the average Jew to change paths is emotionally impossible. The Big Jew leads, the Little Jew follows, and then the Little Jews goes over the cliff. That is Jew culture and its history.

    This cabal of tribal interest is not only about Israel, the ME, and foreign policy — it is about all of America.

    In the last thirty years the Jews have built a financial empire in America, it controls national corporations, media, and politics. Even our local culture and political power has been given over to Jew Wall Street control. Nine out of ten business on Main Street are now controlled by Wall Street.

    Only a financial catastrophe can restore America to its sustainable roots of local ownership and representative government.

    Peace — Art

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  186. The CIA was instrumental in creating what became widely known as the anti-Western outfit Al Qaeda for about the last 25 years but that was entirely to attack the Russians in Afghanistan and as Robin Cook said and wrote after resigning from the Blair government over Iraq it was a failure of tbe Western intelligence services, particularly the CIA that they didn’t anticipate it turning against the West. Why do you think that still matters?

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    Unless you're trolling, your level of naiveté puts you in a class all it's own
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Why don't you say which parts of #187 are wrong and support your opinion with evidence and reasoning? That would justify your choosing the Reply button as you show yourself willing to do.
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  187. @AmericaFirstNow
    No fake OBL tapes! They were real! See following article from Haaretz:

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/report-bin-laden-warned-u-s-over-security-of-palestine-in-final-tape-1.360595

    Following from UK Guardian:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/oct/30/alqaida.september11

    Bin Laden fatwas mentioned in following youtube as well:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaA7hh0FeGw&list=PLfrlsC1yJ2dTKGJXOEaRryaK1ibxbLp17

    I do like well done satire, please play again soon.

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  188. @Wizard of Oz
    A proper reply, if it does not name mames, still spells out the reasoning for motivation and method. And what about the first question? But you aren't really switched on are you? Proof:you didn't even notice you had said George Bush instead of Obama.

    Try again if you are serious and want to justify your right to be rude and dismissive instead of cogent and relevant.

    The answer to your 1st question was included in the prior explanation. But to spell-it out for you, what makes you assume it was Al Qaeda that made the threats? Do you not understand that the same people who produced the fake bin Laden tapes would have also faked the threats connected with Obama’s fictionalized version of Bin Laden’s death? Just because Washington said it happened (Al Qaeda making the threat) don’t mean it happened. In fact the exact opposite is invariably the case. My mistake on the date of George Bush’s re-election which I think would have been in 2004.

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    I recognise a certain consistency but then you say inexplicably your mistake was on Bush's reelection year when it was actually about who was the President when ObL was claimed as killed. (Not a small mistake for someone who obviously believes he gets things right and wants others to believe it too).
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  189. @Wizard of Oz
    The CIA was instrumental in creating what became widely known as the anti-Western outfit Al Qaeda for about the last 25 years but that was entirely to attack the Russians in Afghanistan and as Robin Cook said and wrote after resigning from the Blair government over Iraq it was a failure of tbe Western intelligence services, particularly the CIA that they didn't anticipate it turning against the West. Why do you think that still matters?

    Unless you’re trolling, your level of naiveté puts you in a class all it’s own

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    See #192 - meant for you.
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  190. @Carroll Price
    The answer to your 1st question was included in the prior explanation. But to spell-it out for you, what makes you assume it was Al Qaeda that made the threats? Do you not understand that the same people who produced the fake bin Laden tapes would have also faked the threats connected with Obama's fictionalized version of Bin Laden's death? Just because Washington said it happened (Al Qaeda making the threat) don't mean it happened. In fact the exact opposite is invariably the case. My mistake on the date of George Bush's re-election which I think would have been in 2004.

    I recognise a certain consistency but then you say inexplicably your mistake was on Bush’s reelection year when it was actually about who was the President when ObL was claimed as killed. (Not a small mistake for someone who obviously believes he gets things right and wants others to believe it too).

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  191. @Wizard of Oz
    The CIA was instrumental in creating what became widely known as the anti-Western outfit Al Qaeda for about the last 25 years but that was entirely to attack the Russians in Afghanistan and as Robin Cook said and wrote after resigning from the Blair government over Iraq it was a failure of tbe Western intelligence services, particularly the CIA that they didn't anticipate it turning against the West. Why do you think that still matters?

    Why don’t you say which parts of #187 are wrong and support your opinion with evidence and reasoning? That would justify your choosing the Reply button as you show yourself willing to do.

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  192. @Carroll Price
    Unless you're trolling, your level of naiveté puts you in a class all it's own

    See #192 – meant for you.

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  193. @Wizard of Oz
    I'm sure those 10th graders have already done their time in 8th grade helping out some UR conspiracy theorists. Simple question: why did Al Qaeda threaten retaliation for the Seals killing of ObL? Another simple question: who could have persuaded Obama rhat he needn't worry about a Deep Throat if he put on a charsde such ss is allegef on this thread?

    It seems that Anon was correct in stating that I should not have called you an idiot, you proclaim yourself to be one in almost every one of your comments, that is those that are even intelligible.

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  194. geokat62 says:

    Breaking news published by the Forward:

    Senate Passes New Iran Sanctions Bill 98-2

    Wikipedia
    (JTA) — The U.S. Senate overwhelmingly passed a bill that would impose new sanctions on Iran.

    The measure adding sanctions on Iran due to its ballistic missile program, support for terrorism and human rights breaches passed Thursday in a 98-2 vote. It complies with the Iran nuclear agreement reached in 2015, which put restrictions on the country’s nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief.

    The bill must now pass in the House of Representatives and be signed by President Trump before being enacted. Only Sens. Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul voted against it.

    A day earlier, the Senate voted to adopt an amendment to the bill that would expand sanctions against Russia, CBS News reported.

    The American Jewish Committee praised the bill’s passage.

    “Iran’s ballistic missile program, the regime’s support for international terrorism, and its blatant and egregious human rights violations should not be ignored,” the group’s associate executive director for policy, Jason Isaacson, said in a statement. “This bill demonstrates to the Iranian regime that they will not be tolerated.”

    Christians United for Israel also lauded the measure, calling it a “good first step.”

    http://forward.com/fast-forward/374857/senate-passes-new-iran-sanctions-bill-98-2/?attribution=home-top-story-10-headline

    98 to 2? Aside from BS’s “no” vote, just one American senator had the cajones to defy The Lobby. With this vote, Rand Paul has sealed his fate in the next race for his senate seat, as The Lobby will assuredly go after his scalp. And notice how the xtian Zionists went along for the ride?

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    98 to 2? Aside from BS’s “no” vote, just one American senator had the cajones to defy The Lobby.
     
    So, Sanders is not an American? Are you aware that only Americans can be senators?

    This is just another example of your stealthy hatred. Iffen describes spot on, your pathology. A Canadian taking the grand liberty to strip a seventy-year-old American of his identity. That is rich indeed!
    , @L.K
    Jason Ditz of antiwar.com posted re the new sanctions on both Russia and Iran;

    Senate Votes to Impose New Sanctions on Russia, 97-2
    Amendment Tacked on to Anti-Iran Bill
    With only two dissenting voters, Sens. Rand Paul (R – KY) and Mike Lee (R – UT), the Senate today passed the Crapo Amendment, which imposes a series of new sanctions on Russia over what it claims is “aggressive behavior.” The legislation also prevents the president from removing any sanctions from Russia without prior Congressional authorization.

    Sanctions on Iran, Russia
    Sens. Sanders and Paul the Only Two Voting Against the Move
    ...
    Following yesterday’s vote on an amendment adding substantial sanctions against Russia to the bill, the Senate today voted to pass the bill, which was designed primarily to impose a number of new sanctions on Iran for “non-nuclear” moves that the Senate objects to. This too easily passed, with a 98-2 result.

    The legislation was loudly endorsed by Israel lobbying group AIPAC, and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D – NY) also made clear the vote was all about Iran, saying it proved “bipartisan unity” in support of Israel that they were moving to punish Iran so overwhelmingly.

    The lone dissenters on the bill were Sens. Rand Paul (R -KY) and Bernie Sanders (I – VT). Paul’s vote was unsurprising, as he’d also opposed yesterday’s amendment on adding Russia sanctions to the bill.
    Sen. Sanders insisted his concern was that the new sanctions against Iran would imperil the P5+1 nuclear deal with Iran.
     
    , @Z-man

    Christians United for Israel also lauded the measure, calling it a “good first step.”
     
    Puke and a pox on them.

    Viva Rand Paul and the righteous Jew.
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  195. Sam Shama says:

    98 to 2? Aside from BS’s “no” vote, just one American senator had the cajones to defy The Lobby.

    So, Sanders is not an American? Are you aware that only Americans can be senators?

    This is just another example of your stealthy hatred. Iffen describes spot on, your pathology. A Canadian taking the grand liberty to strip a seventy-year-old American of his identity. That is rich indeed!

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    Not true. There are forty or so senators and congressmen and tens of thousands of high-level "policy wonks" who are employed by the federal government who hold "dual citizenship" with Israel. THAT, my friends, is a REAL problem, as their loyalties are split, and almost always favor their "true" (home) country--Israel.
    Dual-citizenship" should not only be prohibited, but those who insist on keeping it should be barred from any government employment or positions and should be summarily deported.
    It is long overdue to remove the yoke of Israel from around the American citizens' neck.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Read it again Sam. I think here and later you must have been under the influence of lack of sleep. Apart from [scil. American Senator] BS's "no" vote just one American Senator ,,,,
    Who is suggesting that BS is not an American Senator?
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  196. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62
    Breaking news published by the Forward:

    Senate Passes New Iran Sanctions Bill 98-2

    Wikipedia
    (JTA) — The U.S. Senate overwhelmingly passed a bill that would impose new sanctions on Iran.

    The measure adding sanctions on Iran due to its ballistic missile program, support for terrorism and human rights breaches passed Thursday in a 98-2 vote. It complies with the Iran nuclear agreement reached in 2015, which put restrictions on the country’s nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief.

    The bill must now pass in the House of Representatives and be signed by President Trump before being enacted. Only Sens. Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul voted against it.

    A day earlier, the Senate voted to adopt an amendment to the bill that would expand sanctions against Russia, CBS News reported.

    The American Jewish Committee praised the bill’s passage.

    “Iran’s ballistic missile program, the regime’s support for international terrorism, and its blatant and egregious human rights violations should not be ignored,” the group’s associate executive director for policy, Jason Isaacson, said in a statement. “This bill demonstrates to the Iranian regime that they will not be tolerated.”

    Christians United for Israel also lauded the measure, calling it a “good first step.”

    http://forward.com/fast-forward/374857/senate-passes-new-iran-sanctions-bill-98-2/?attribution=home-top-story-10-headline
     

    98 to 2? Aside from BS's "no" vote, just one American senator had the cajones to defy The Lobby. With this vote, Rand Paul has sealed his fate in the next race for his senate seat, as The Lobby will assuredly go after his scalp. And notice how the xtian Zionists went along for the ride?

    98 to 2? Aside from BS’s “no” vote, just one American senator had the cajones to defy The Lobby.

    So, Sanders is not an American? Are you aware that only Americans can be senators?

    This is just another example of your stealthy hatred. Iffen describes spot on, your pathology. A Canadian taking the grand liberty to strip a seventy-year-old American of his identity. That is rich indeed!

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    So, Sanders is not an American? Are you aware that only Americans can be senators?

    This is just another example of your stealthy hatred. Iffen describes spot on, your pathology. A Canadian taking the grand liberty to strip a seventy-year-old American of his identity.
     
    If someone abuses something you love – something that contributes to your wellbeing – something that is part of your identity – and they do this today, and yesterday, and for sure tomorrow – when is it OK to hate them?

    Peace --- Art

    p.s. As philosophical Christians we “hate the sin – NOT the sinner.”

    p.s. Jesus said “forgive them father for they know not what they do.”

    p.s. The inferior Jew and his culture – still cling to the savage “an eye for an eye.”

    p.s. We philosophical Christians will forgive them their ignorance.

    p.s. Too bad for the Jews – we are not everyone.
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  197. anarchyst says:
    @Sam Shama

    98 to 2? Aside from BS’s “no” vote, just one American senator had the cajones to defy The Lobby.
     
    So, Sanders is not an American? Are you aware that only Americans can be senators?

    This is just another example of your stealthy hatred. Iffen describes spot on, your pathology. A Canadian taking the grand liberty to strip a seventy-year-old American of his identity. That is rich indeed!

    Not true. There are forty or so senators and congressmen and tens of thousands of high-level “policy wonks” who are employed by the federal government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. THAT, my friends, is a REAL problem, as their loyalties are split, and almost always favor their “true” (home) country–Israel.
    Dual-citizenship” should not only be prohibited, but those who insist on keeping it should be barred from any government employment or positions and should be summarily deported.
    It is long overdue to remove the yoke of Israel from around the American citizens’ neck.

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    Since you take it upon yourself to opine; on you, therefore, weighs the responsibility to (1) offer evidence that Bernie holds a dual citizenship (2) offer evidence which points to Bernie's divided loyalties.Don't insert tangential matters regarding "thousands" of dual-citizens in policy circles, an assertion without substantiation.

    Failure to do so will remove any doubts regarding your prejudice. My observation squarely dealt with this blind prejudice, one which would deliberately malign an outstanding senior senator simply on account of his religion which in any case he considers of limited influence in his life and utterly unimportant for his political vision.

    That, my friend, is the essence of antisemitism you harbour, perhaps unintentionally, perhaps not.

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  198. Sam Shama says:
    @anarchyst
    Not true. There are forty or so senators and congressmen and tens of thousands of high-level "policy wonks" who are employed by the federal government who hold "dual citizenship" with Israel. THAT, my friends, is a REAL problem, as their loyalties are split, and almost always favor their "true" (home) country--Israel.
    Dual-citizenship" should not only be prohibited, but those who insist on keeping it should be barred from any government employment or positions and should be summarily deported.
    It is long overdue to remove the yoke of Israel from around the American citizens' neck.

    Since you take it upon yourself to opine; on you, therefore, weighs the responsibility to (1) offer evidence that Bernie holds a dual citizenship (2) offer evidence which points to Bernie’s divided loyalties.Don’t insert tangential matters regarding “thousands” of dual-citizens in policy circles, an assertion without substantiation.

    Failure to do so will remove any doubts regarding your prejudice. My observation squarely dealt with this blind prejudice, one which would deliberately malign an outstanding senior senator simply on account of his religion which in any case he considers of limited influence in his life and utterly unimportant for his political vision.

    That, my friend, is the essence of antisemitism you harbour, perhaps unintentionally, perhaps not.

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    Not blind prejudice at all...I'm not going to do your "homework" for you. It is FACT that 40 or so congresscritters hold "dual citizenship" with Israel and THAT, my friend IS detrimental to the interests of MY country, the USA. There is NO ROOM for "split loyalties" in MY country.
    Check it out for yourself...
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  199. anarchyst says:
    @Sam Shama
    Since you take it upon yourself to opine; on you, therefore, weighs the responsibility to (1) offer evidence that Bernie holds a dual citizenship (2) offer evidence which points to Bernie's divided loyalties.Don't insert tangential matters regarding "thousands" of dual-citizens in policy circles, an assertion without substantiation.

    Failure to do so will remove any doubts regarding your prejudice. My observation squarely dealt with this blind prejudice, one which would deliberately malign an outstanding senior senator simply on account of his religion which in any case he considers of limited influence in his life and utterly unimportant for his political vision.

    That, my friend, is the essence of antisemitism you harbour, perhaps unintentionally, perhaps not.

    Not blind prejudice at all…I’m not going to do your “homework” for you. It is FACT that 40 or so congresscritters hold “dual citizenship” with Israel and THAT, my friend IS detrimental to the interests of MY country, the USA. There is NO ROOM for “split loyalties” in MY country.
    Check it out for yourself…

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    That there are dual citizens in Washinton was not the matter under investigation nor the premise of my response to Geokat on which you decided to weigh in. You brought it up, so it is incumbent on you to prove it thus sealing your credibility, or not. Not my concern.

    But it is plainly evident for all to see that you are unable to produce any evidence for the strongly implied smear on Bernie. I don't require anyone to do my homework for me, least of all evasive characters chest-thumping their patriotism on anonymous internet forums. Begone.

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  200. Rurik says:

    There is NO ROOM for “split loyalties” in MY country.

    I don’t know about Bernie (a POS in his own right), but when it comes to Israeli/US duel citizens, their loyalties are certainly not split. Hardly.

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    Yep... that is why they are correctly called IsraHell firsters.... they should all be deported from our countries.
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  201. Sam Shama says:
    @anarchyst
    Not blind prejudice at all...I'm not going to do your "homework" for you. It is FACT that 40 or so congresscritters hold "dual citizenship" with Israel and THAT, my friend IS detrimental to the interests of MY country, the USA. There is NO ROOM for "split loyalties" in MY country.
    Check it out for yourself...

    That there are dual citizens in Washinton was not the matter under investigation nor the premise of my response to Geokat on which you decided to weigh in. You brought it up, so it is incumbent on you to prove it thus sealing your credibility, or not. Not my concern.

    But it is plainly evident for all to see that you are unable to produce any evidence for the strongly implied smear on Bernie. I don’t require anyone to do my homework for me, least of all evasive characters chest-thumping their patriotism on anonymous internet forums. Begone.

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    Her you go...

    1. Attorney General – Michael Mukasey
    2. Head of Homeland Security – Michael Chertoff
    3. Chairman Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Richard Perle
    4. Deputy Defense Secretary (Former) – Paul Wolfowitz
    5. Under Secretary of Defense – Douglas Feith
    6. National Security Council Advisor – Elliott Abrams
    7. Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff (Former) – “Scooter” Libby
    8. White House Deputy Chief of Staff – Joshua Bolten
    9. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs – Marc Grossman
    10. Director of Policy Planning at the State Department – Richard Haass
    11. U.S. Trade Representative (Cabinet-level Position) – Robert Zoellick
    12. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – James Schlesinger
    13. UN Representative (Former) – John Bolton
    14. Under Secretary for Arms Control – David Wurmser
    15. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Eliot Cohen
    16. Senior Advisor to the President – Steve Goldsmith
    17. Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary – Christopher Gersten
    18. Assistant Secretary of State – Lincoln Bloomfield
    19. Deputy Assistant to the President – Jay Lefkowitz
    20. White House Political Director – Ken Melman
    21. National Security Study Group – Edward Luttwak
    22. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Kenneth Adelman
    23. Defense Intelligence Agency Analyst (Former) – Lawrence (Larry) Franklin
    24. National Security Council Advisor – Robert Satloff
    25. President Export-Import Bank U.S. – Mel Sembler
    26. Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families – Christopher Gersten
    27. Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs – Mark Weinberger
    28. White House Speechwriter – David Frum
    29. White House Spokesman (Former) – Ari Fleischer
    30. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Henry Kissinger
    31. Deputy Secretary of Commerce – Samuel Bodman
    32. Under Secretary of State for Management – Bonnie Cohen
    33. Director of Foreign Service Institute – Ruth Davis
    34. Federal Reserve Chair – Janet Yellen
    35. Federal Reserve Vice-Chair – Stanley Fischer

    Current (and past) Members of Senate:

    Representative Gary Ackerman (New York)
    Representative John H. Adler (New Jersey)
    Representative Shelley Berkley (Nevada)
    Representative Howard Berman (California)
    Representative Steve Cohen (Tennessee)
    Representative Susan Davis (California)
    Representative Eliot Engel (New York)
    Representative Bob Filner (California)
    Representative Barney Frank (Former) (Massachusetts)
    Representative Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
    Representative Jane Harman (California)
    Representative Paul Hodes (New Hampshire)
    Representative Steve Israel (New York)
    Representative Steve Kagen (Wisconsin)
    Representative Ronald Klein (Florida)
    Representative Sander Levin (Michigan)
    Representative Nita Lowey (New York)
    Representative Jerry Nadler (New York)
    Representative Jared Polis (Colorado)
    Representative Steve Rothman (New Jersey)
    Representative Jan Schakowsky (Illinois)
    Representative Adam Schiff (California)
    Representative Arlen Specter (Pennsylvania)
    Representative Allyson Schwartz (Pennsylvania)
    Representative Brad Sherman (California)
    Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
    Representative Henry Waxman (California)
    Representative Anthony Weiner (New York)
    Representative John Yarmuth (Kentucky)

    House of Representatives (or lower chamber of the United States Congress):

    Representative Gary Ackerman (New York)
    Representative John H. Adler (New Jersey)
    Representative Shelley Berkley (Nevada)
    Representative Howard Berman (California)
    Representative Steve Cohen (Tennessee)
    Representative Susan Davis (California)
    Representative Eliot Engel (New York)
    Representative Bob Filner (California)
    Representative Barney Frank (Massachusetts)
    Representative Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
    Representative Alan Grayson (Florida Alan Mark Grayson (born March 13, 1958) is an American politician who was the United States Representative for Florida’s 9th congressional district and a member of the Democratic Party. The United States House of Representatives is the lower chamber of the United States Congress which, along with the Senate, composes the legislature of the United States.)
    Representative Jane Harman (California)
    Representative Paul Hodes (New Hampshire)
    Representative Steve Israel (New York)
    Representative Steve Kagen (Wisconsin)
    Representative Ronald Klein (Florida)
    Representative Sander Levin (Michigan)
    Representative Nita Lowey (New York)
    Representative Jerry Nadler (New York)
    Representative Jared Polis (Colorado)
    Representative Steve Rothman (New Jersey)
    Representative Jan Schakowsky (Illinois)
    Representative Adam Schiff (California)
    Representative Allyson Schwartz (Pennsylvania)
    Representative Brad Sherman (California)
    Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
    Representative Henry Waxman (California)
    Representative Anthony Weiner (New York)
    Representative John Yarmuth (Kentucky)

    •Senator Barbara Boxer (California)
    •Senator Benjamin Cardin (Maryland)
    •Senator Russ Feingold (Wisconsin)
    •Senator Al Franken (Minnesota)
    •Senator Dianne Feinstein (California)
    •Senator Herb Kohl (Wisconsin)
    •Senator Frank Lautenberg (New Jersey)
    •Senator Joe Lieberman (Connecticut) (Independent)
    •Senator Carl Levin (Michigan)
    •Senator Bernard Sanders (Vermont) (Independent)
    •Senator Charles Schumer (New York)
    •Senator Ron Wyden (Oregon) -
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  202. anarchyst says:
    @Sam Shama
    That there are dual citizens in Washinton was not the matter under investigation nor the premise of my response to Geokat on which you decided to weigh in. You brought it up, so it is incumbent on you to prove it thus sealing your credibility, or not. Not my concern.

    But it is plainly evident for all to see that you are unable to produce any evidence for the strongly implied smear on Bernie. I don't require anyone to do my homework for me, least of all evasive characters chest-thumping their patriotism on anonymous internet forums. Begone.

    Her you go…

    [MORE]

    1. Attorney General – Michael Mukasey
    2. Head of Homeland Security – Michael Chertoff
    3. Chairman Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Richard Perle
    4. Deputy Defense Secretary (Former) – Paul Wolfowitz
    5. Under Secretary of Defense – Douglas Feith
    6. National Security Council Advisor – Elliott Abrams
    7. Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff (Former) – “Scooter” Libby
    8. White House Deputy Chief of Staff – Joshua Bolten
    9. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs – Marc Grossman
    10. Director of Policy Planning at the State Department – Richard Haass
    11. U.S. Trade Representative (Cabinet-level Position) – Robert Zoellick
    12. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – James Schlesinger
    13. UN Representative (Former) – John Bolton
    14. Under Secretary for Arms Control – David Wurmser
    15. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Eliot Cohen
    16. Senior Advisor to the President – Steve Goldsmith
    17. Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary – Christopher Gersten
    18. Assistant Secretary of State – Lincoln Bloomfield
    19. Deputy Assistant to the President – Jay Lefkowitz
    20. White House Political Director – Ken Melman
    21. National Security Study Group – Edward Luttwak
    22. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Kenneth Adelman
    23. Defense Intelligence Agency Analyst (Former) – Lawrence (Larry) Franklin
    24. National Security Council Advisor – Robert Satloff
    25. President Export-Import Bank U.S. – Mel Sembler
    26. Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families – Christopher Gersten
    27. Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs – Mark Weinberger
    28. White House Speechwriter – David Frum
    29. White House Spokesman (Former) – Ari Fleischer
    30. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Henry Kissinger
    31. Deputy Secretary of Commerce – Samuel Bodman
    32. Under Secretary of State for Management – Bonnie Cohen
    33. Director of Foreign Service Institute – Ruth Davis
    34. Federal Reserve Chair – Janet Yellen
    35. Federal Reserve Vice-Chair – Stanley Fischer

    Current (and past) Members of Senate:

    Representative Gary Ackerman (New York)
    Representative John H. Adler (New Jersey)
    Representative Shelley Berkley (Nevada)
    Representative Howard Berman (California)
    Representative Steve Cohen (Tennessee)
    Representative Susan Davis (California)
    Representative Eliot Engel (New York)
    Representative Bob Filner (California)
    Representative Barney Frank (Former) (Massachusetts)
    Representative Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
    Representative Jane Harman (California)
    Representative Paul Hodes (New Hampshire)
    Representative Steve Israel (New York)
    Representative Steve Kagen (Wisconsin)
    Representative Ronald Klein (Florida)
    Representative Sander Levin (Michigan)
    Representative Nita Lowey (New York)
    Representative Jerry Nadler (New York)
    Representative Jared Polis (Colorado)
    Representative Steve Rothman (New Jersey)
    Representative Jan Schakowsky (Illinois)
    Representative Adam Schiff (California)
    Representative Arlen Specter (Pennsylvania)
    Representative Allyson Schwartz (Pennsylvania)
    Representative Brad Sherman (California)
    Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
    Representative Henry Waxman (California)
    Representative Anthony Weiner (New York)
    Representative John Yarmuth (Kentucky)

    House of Representatives (or lower chamber of the United States Congress):

    Representative Gary Ackerman (New York)
    Representative John H. Adler (New Jersey)
    Representative Shelley Berkley (Nevada)
    Representative Howard Berman (California)
    Representative Steve Cohen (Tennessee)
    Representative Susan Davis (California)
    Representative Eliot Engel (New York)
    Representative Bob Filner (California)
    Representative Barney Frank (Massachusetts)
    Representative Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
    Representative Alan Grayson (Florida Alan Mark Grayson (born March 13, 1958) is an American politician who was the United States Representative for Florida’s 9th congressional district and a member of the Democratic Party. The United States House of Representatives is the lower chamber of the United States Congress which, along with the Senate, composes the legislature of the United States.)
    Representative Jane Harman (California)
    Representative Paul Hodes (New Hampshire)
    Representative Steve Israel (New York)
    Representative Steve Kagen (Wisconsin)
    Representative Ronald Klein (Florida)
    Representative Sander Levin (Michigan)
    Representative Nita Lowey (New York)
    Representative Jerry Nadler (New York)
    Representative Jared Polis (Colorado)
    Representative Steve Rothman (New Jersey)
    Representative Jan Schakowsky (Illinois)
    Representative Adam Schiff (California)
    Representative Allyson Schwartz (Pennsylvania)
    Representative Brad Sherman (California)
    Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
    Representative Henry Waxman (California)
    Representative Anthony Weiner (New York)
    Representative John Yarmuth (Kentucky)

    •Senator Barbara Boxer (California)
    •Senator Benjamin Cardin (Maryland)
    •Senator Russ Feingold (Wisconsin)
    •Senator Al Franken (Minnesota)
    •Senator Dianne Feinstein (California)
    •Senator Herb Kohl (Wisconsin)
    •Senator Frank Lautenberg (New Jersey)
    •Senator Joe Lieberman (Connecticut) (Independent)
    •Senator Carl Levin (Michigan)
    •Senator Bernard Sanders (Vermont) (Independent)
    •Senator Charles Schumer (New York)
    •Senator Ron Wyden (Oregon) -

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  203. Sam Shama says:

    You’ve proved your unparalleled capacity to copy and paste a list of Jewish public servants. I am more than suitably impressed.

    Can you now direct your astonishing faculties to prove the Goldbach Conjecture perhaps? [hint: there are wheels within wheels in this one]

    Best of luck

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  204. L.K says:
    @geokat62
    Breaking news published by the Forward:

    Senate Passes New Iran Sanctions Bill 98-2

    Wikipedia
    (JTA) — The U.S. Senate overwhelmingly passed a bill that would impose new sanctions on Iran.

    The measure adding sanctions on Iran due to its ballistic missile program, support for terrorism and human rights breaches passed Thursday in a 98-2 vote. It complies with the Iran nuclear agreement reached in 2015, which put restrictions on the country’s nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief.

    The bill must now pass in the House of Representatives and be signed by President Trump before being enacted. Only Sens. Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul voted against it.

    A day earlier, the Senate voted to adopt an amendment to the bill that would expand sanctions against Russia, CBS News reported.

    The American Jewish Committee praised the bill’s passage.

    “Iran’s ballistic missile program, the regime’s support for international terrorism, and its blatant and egregious human rights violations should not be ignored,” the group’s associate executive director for policy, Jason Isaacson, said in a statement. “This bill demonstrates to the Iranian regime that they will not be tolerated.”

    Christians United for Israel also lauded the measure, calling it a “good first step.”

    http://forward.com/fast-forward/374857/senate-passes-new-iran-sanctions-bill-98-2/?attribution=home-top-story-10-headline
     

    98 to 2? Aside from BS's "no" vote, just one American senator had the cajones to defy The Lobby. With this vote, Rand Paul has sealed his fate in the next race for his senate seat, as The Lobby will assuredly go after his scalp. And notice how the xtian Zionists went along for the ride?

    Jason Ditz of antiwar.com posted re the new sanctions on both Russia and Iran;

    Senate Votes to Impose New Sanctions on Russia, 97-2
    Amendment Tacked on to Anti-Iran Bill
    With only two dissenting voters, Sens. Rand Paul (R – KY) and Mike Lee (R – UT), the Senate today passed the Crapo Amendment, which imposes a series of new sanctions on Russia over what it claims is “aggressive behavior.” The legislation also prevents the president from removing any sanctions from Russia without prior Congressional authorization.

    Sanctions on Iran, Russia
    Sens. Sanders and Paul the Only Two Voting Against the Move

    Following yesterday’s vote on an amendment adding substantial sanctions against Russia to the bill, the Senate today voted to pass the bill, which was designed primarily to impose a number of new sanctions on Iran for “non-nuclear” moves that the Senate objects to. This too easily passed, with a 98-2 result.

    The legislation was loudly endorsed by Israel lobbying group AIPAC, and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D – NY) also made clear the vote was all about Iran, saying it proved “bipartisan unity” in support of Israel that they were moving to punish Iran so overwhelmingly.

    The lone dissenters on the bill were Sens. Rand Paul (R -KY) and Bernie Sanders (I – VT). Paul’s vote was unsurprising, as he’d also opposed yesterday’s amendment on adding Russia sanctions to the bill. Sen. Sanders insisted his concern was that the new sanctions against Iran would imperil the P5+1 nuclear deal with Iran.

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  205. L.K says:

    Iran, you better never trust the ZUSA! Zionists continue to relentless pursue regime change in Iran, what’s new!?

    Tillerson: US Working for Regime Change in Iran
    Says Specifics of US Policy Are Still Under Development
    Jason Ditz Posted on June 15
    Speaking to the House Foreign Affairs Committee yesterday, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was asked about whether or not the Trump Administration’s policy is one of trying to impose regime change on Iran. While Tillerson insisted that the specifics of administration policy on Iran are still under development, he did confirm that the goal remains regime change.

    Exactly how they expect to pull that off remains to be seen, but Tillerson said the US policy as it stands is to rely on “elements inside of Iran” who can be supported toward the end goal of regime change, with the hope it would be a “peaceful transition of that government.”

    That’s unlikely, as to the extent US officials have shown interest in supporting “elements” in Iran at all, it’s groups with long-standing links to terrorism like the Mujahedin-e Khalq (MeK). The actual reformists within Iran’s political system tend to be vilified by the US…

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  206. geokat62 says:

    But it is plainly evident for all to see that you are unable to produce any evidence for the strongly implied smear on Bernie

    .

    Let’s compare and contrast the purportedly offending statements:

    Sam Shama

    You, like a handful of others I’ve run across, have the one common motivator: Jew hatred.

    geokat62

    Aside from BS’s “no” vote, just one American senator had the cajones to defy The Lobby

    .

    I’ll let others judge who is guilty of levelling smears, implied or otherwise.

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    geokat62..don't waste your time with this Zio/Neocon plant, you've already bent over backwards showing him the truth!
    Fuck Zion!
    I can't be more succinct, lol!
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  207. L.K says:
    @Rurik

    There is NO ROOM for “split loyalties” in MY country.
     
    I don't know about Bernie (a POS in his own right), but when it comes to Israeli/US duel citizens, their loyalties are certainly not split. Hardly.

    Yep… that is why they are correctly called IsraHell firsters…. they should all be deported from our countries.

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  208. L.K says:
    @Rurik
    Hey L.K.,

    As is often the case, this ridiculous propaganda setup has kinda become ‘factual’ and ‘history’… no matter the idiocy of it and total lack of substantiating evidence
     
    as it ever was eh?

    whoever controls the narrative, controls 'reality'.

    people today take if for granted that Saddam did 9/11

    or that heroic passengers said 'let's roll!' and then took over the plane from the 'terrorists' before it "crashed" in Pennsylvania

    they believe that Osama was behind 9/11, (just as Saddam was) even tho there isn't one shred of evidence that ties Osama to it, and he had specifically said he had nothing to do with it. None of that matters, it's only what they present on the television screen and poof, the lemmingry follow suit.

    re Pat Tillman’s death.
     
    I remember when he joined the army after 9/11, and I thought wow, there's a real American hero. Willing to forgo a multi-million dollar career as a football star and risk death to avenge the Americans that were slaughtered by pure evil on that day.

    Then I heard the stories of his death. And how he died in a fierce gun battle with the Taliban. Then I heard that the stories were all lies and that he was killed by 'friendly fire'. Then I heard that he had become disillusioned by the lies about the war and about 9/11 and the whole farce, and that they blew his head off, (and then lied about it) rather than have this recruiting boon become some kind of anti-war activist.

    I don't know what happened exactly, (I wasn't there) but I do know he was killed in suspicious circumstanced by American fire when he was clearly in visual and voice range. His last words were "I'm Pat fucking Tillman — why are you shooting at me?"

    So I suspect he too was assassinated and then the lie machine kicked in as it always does. And most people would rather not know, if it's true, that our government are Satanic murderous demons.

    ps, you know LK, from time to time I use words like 'evil and Satanic, demon' and other less-than scientific or purely objective words to describe some people and events, but I just don't know of any objective words in the English language to describe what my government has been doing in the world if not to call it evil and Satanic. 'Talmudic' just doesn't pack the rhetorical punch. Most people don't even know what it means.

    I dunno if you have read this, but here goes, by Justin Raimondo @ http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2007/07/30/who-killed-pat-tillman/

    His enlistment provoked a personal letter from then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and his death provided the War Party with the opportunity to canonize him as a martyr to The Cause. An elaborate narrative was conjured by administration spinmeisters in the wake of his death, valorizing him as an example to be followed.

    There was just one problem: Tillman wasn’t a gung-ho warmonger. The San Francisco Chronicle reports:

    “A side of Pat Tillman not widely known – a fiercely independent thinker who enlisted, fought, and died in service to his country yet was critical of President Bush and opposed the war in Iraq, where he served a tour of duty. He was an avid reader whose interests ranged from history books … to works of leftist Noam Chomsky, a favorite author.”

    Apparently a meeting between Tillman and Chomsky was planned for after Pat’s return to the U.S., but he never returned. Instead, he was killed – under circumstances that Pat’s mother, Mary, has always characterized as “murky,” at best, and that seem, to my eye, at least, suspicious at worst. And it isn’t just me. Now the release of thousands of pages of documents by the Pentagon, as the result of a Freedom of Information Act request, raise even more questions about the circumstances surrounding Pat Tillman’s death:

    “Army medical examiners were suspicious about the close proximity of the three bullet holes in Pat Tillman’s forehead and tried without success to get authorities to investigate whether the former NFL player’s death amounted to a crime, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press.

    “’The medical evidence did not match up with the, with the scenario as described,’ a doctor who examined Tillman’s body after he was killed on the battlefield in Afghanistan in 2004 told investigators.

    “The doctors – whose names were blacked out – said that the bullet holes were so close together that it appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16 fired from a mere 10 yards or so away.”

    Our masters probably think we are mushroom & treat us as such, probably ’cause 98% of us behave as such; so they keep us in the dark & feed us BS…

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  209. Z-man says:
    @geokat62
    Breaking news published by the Forward:

    Senate Passes New Iran Sanctions Bill 98-2

    Wikipedia
    (JTA) — The U.S. Senate overwhelmingly passed a bill that would impose new sanctions on Iran.

    The measure adding sanctions on Iran due to its ballistic missile program, support for terrorism and human rights breaches passed Thursday in a 98-2 vote. It complies with the Iran nuclear agreement reached in 2015, which put restrictions on the country’s nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief.

    The bill must now pass in the House of Representatives and be signed by President Trump before being enacted. Only Sens. Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul voted against it.

    A day earlier, the Senate voted to adopt an amendment to the bill that would expand sanctions against Russia, CBS News reported.

    The American Jewish Committee praised the bill’s passage.

    “Iran’s ballistic missile program, the regime’s support for international terrorism, and its blatant and egregious human rights violations should not be ignored,” the group’s associate executive director for policy, Jason Isaacson, said in a statement. “This bill demonstrates to the Iranian regime that they will not be tolerated.”

    Christians United for Israel also lauded the measure, calling it a “good first step.”

    http://forward.com/fast-forward/374857/senate-passes-new-iran-sanctions-bill-98-2/?attribution=home-top-story-10-headline
     

    98 to 2? Aside from BS's "no" vote, just one American senator had the cajones to defy The Lobby. With this vote, Rand Paul has sealed his fate in the next race for his senate seat, as The Lobby will assuredly go after his scalp. And notice how the xtian Zionists went along for the ride?

    Christians United for Israel also lauded the measure, calling it a “good first step.”

    Puke and a pox on them.

    Viva Rand Paul and the righteous Jew.

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  210. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    98 to 2? Aside from BS’s “no” vote, just one American senator had the cajones to defy The Lobby.
     
    So, Sanders is not an American? Are you aware that only Americans can be senators?

    This is just another example of your stealthy hatred. Iffen describes spot on, your pathology. A Canadian taking the grand liberty to strip a seventy-year-old American of his identity. That is rich indeed!

    So, Sanders is not an American? Are you aware that only Americans can be senators?

    This is just another example of your stealthy hatred. Iffen describes spot on, your pathology. A Canadian taking the grand liberty to strip a seventy-year-old American of his identity.

    If someone abuses something you love – something that contributes to your wellbeing – something that is part of your identity – and they do this today, and yesterday, and for sure tomorrow – when is it OK to hate them?

    Peace — Art

    p.s. As philosophical Christians we “hate the sin – NOT the sinner.”

    p.s. Jesus said “forgive them father for they know not what they do.”

    p.s. The inferior Jew and his culture – still cling to the savage “an eye for an eye.”

    p.s. We philosophical Christians will forgive them their ignorance.

    p.s. Too bad for the Jews – we are not everyone.

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  211. Z-man says:
    @geokat62

    But it is plainly evident for all to see that you are unable to produce any evidence for the strongly implied smear on Bernie
     
    .

    Let's compare and contrast the purportedly offending statements:

    Sam Shama

    You, like a handful of others I’ve run across, have the one common motivator: Jew hatred.

    geokat62

    Aside from BS’s “no” vote, just one American senator had the cajones to defy The Lobby
     
    .

    I'll let others judge who is guilty of levelling smears, implied or otherwise.

    geokat62..don’t waste your time with this Zio/Neocon plant, you’ve already bent over backwards showing him the truth!
    Fuck Zion!
    I can’t be more succinct, lol!

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  212. L.K says:
    @Rurik
    Hey L.K.,

    As is often the case, this ridiculous propaganda setup has kinda become ‘factual’ and ‘history’… no matter the idiocy of it and total lack of substantiating evidence
     
    as it ever was eh?

    whoever controls the narrative, controls 'reality'.

    people today take if for granted that Saddam did 9/11

    or that heroic passengers said 'let's roll!' and then took over the plane from the 'terrorists' before it "crashed" in Pennsylvania

    they believe that Osama was behind 9/11, (just as Saddam was) even tho there isn't one shred of evidence that ties Osama to it, and he had specifically said he had nothing to do with it. None of that matters, it's only what they present on the television screen and poof, the lemmingry follow suit.

    re Pat Tillman’s death.
     
    I remember when he joined the army after 9/11, and I thought wow, there's a real American hero. Willing to forgo a multi-million dollar career as a football star and risk death to avenge the Americans that were slaughtered by pure evil on that day.

    Then I heard the stories of his death. And how he died in a fierce gun battle with the Taliban. Then I heard that the stories were all lies and that he was killed by 'friendly fire'. Then I heard that he had become disillusioned by the lies about the war and about 9/11 and the whole farce, and that they blew his head off, (and then lied about it) rather than have this recruiting boon become some kind of anti-war activist.

    I don't know what happened exactly, (I wasn't there) but I do know he was killed in suspicious circumstanced by American fire when he was clearly in visual and voice range. His last words were "I'm Pat fucking Tillman — why are you shooting at me?"

    So I suspect he too was assassinated and then the lie machine kicked in as it always does. And most people would rather not know, if it's true, that our government are Satanic murderous demons.

    ps, you know LK, from time to time I use words like 'evil and Satanic, demon' and other less-than scientific or purely objective words to describe some people and events, but I just don't know of any objective words in the English language to describe what my government has been doing in the world if not to call it evil and Satanic. 'Talmudic' just doesn't pack the rhetorical punch. Most people don't even know what it means.

    Rurik: “Willing to forgo a multi-million dollar career as a football star and risk death to avenge the Americans that were slaughtered by pure evil on that day.”

    Yes, and the evil doers are still free, many of them living comfortable lives in the ZUSA & only a few brave hearts, such as C. Bollyn, have figured out what truly happened & had the balls to speak out.

    Evil is as good a word as any… In Syria, as in Libya and other locations before, the ZUSA & its allies have been recruiting/funding/training Wahhabi mercenaries to try to bring about regime change or, failing that, total chaos, permanent war and partition.

    Former Ranger Jack Murphy went to Turkey and Jordan and interviewed several ZUS’s special forces operatives who have been training the “rebels”. Jack Murphy is an eight year Army Special Operations veteran who served as a Sniper and Team Leader in 3rd Ranger Battalion and as a Senior Weapons Sergeant on a Military Free Fall team in 5th Special Forces Group.
    The piece is behind a pay wall, but several journalists have quoted from it.
    Dean Parker wrote about it in Sept.2016:

    [MORE]

    A former US Army Ranger over at Sofrep.com which bills itself as a kind of unofficial newsletter of the US Special Forces has a fascinating scoop on the attitudes of American soldiers to their Syria training mission. Read the opening paragraph:
    “Nobody believes in it. You’re like, ‘Fuck this,’” a former Green Beret says of America’s covert and clandestine programs to train and arm Syrian militias. “Everyone on the ground knows they are jihadis. No one on the ground believes in this mission or this effort, and they know they are just training the next generation of jihadis, so they are sabotaging it by saying, ‘Fuck it, who cares?’”

    It then chronicles how America got embroiled in a proxy war versus the Syrian state via the CIA noting that:
    Distinguishing between the FSA and al-Nusra is impossible, because they are virtually the same organization. As early as 2013, FSA commanders were defecting with their entire units to join al-Nusra. There, they still retain the FSA monicker, but it is merely for show, to give the appearance of secularism so they can maintain access to weaponry provided by the CIA and Saudi intelligence services. The reality is that the FSA is little more than a cover for the al-Qaeda-affiliated al-Nusra. …
    The special soldiers entrusted with the task, however, quickly grew disillusioned. One complaint was the seeming low quality of the recruits, another their apparently questionable loyalties:
    The rebels know how to sell themselves to the Americans during such interviews, but they still let things slip occasionally. “I don’t understand why people don’t like al-Nusra,” one rebel told the American soldiers. Many had sympathies with the terrorist groups such as Nusra and ISIS. …
    Among the rebels that U.S. Special Forces and Turkish Special Forces were training, “A good 95 percent of them were either working in terrorist organizations or were sympathetic to them,” a Green Beret associated with the program said, adding, “A good majority of them admitted that they had no issues with ISIS and that their issue was with the Kurds and the Syrian regime.” Like the militias being trained in Jordan, the rebels being trained in Turkey were not ready for combat. “It is not in their blood to be fighters. A large majority of them are criminals,” a Green Beret said. Many were foreign fighters, some from Iraq. One even turned out to be a Lebanese drug smuggler.

    “The majority of these guys have been coached on what to say at the training site and give cookie-cutter answers,” the Special Forces soldier told SOFREP. They would portray themselves as being secular, but the Americans could tell who the hardliners were because they didn’t smoke (jihadis follow Wahhabi Islam, which does not permit it) and looked at the Green Berets with disdain.

    Full article can be read at http://russia-insider.com/en/nobody-believes-it-everyone-ground-knows-they-are-jihadis-us-special-forces-hate-their-syria-mission

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  213. Rurik says:

    Rurik: “Willing to forgo a multi-million dollar career as a football star and risk death to avenge the Americans that were slaughtered by pure evil on that day.”

    Yes, and the evil doers are still free

    imagine what this is like L.K.

    imagine what it’s like knowing that the men and women that are paid and exalted and given great powers, but most of all.. trusted to use all that power and position vested in them to keep the American people protected from harm…

    ..are the very people who would plot and carry out an unprecedented mass-murder -of the very people they’re paid and trusted to protect- so horrific that it would stagger Genghis Khan for its sheer monstrous treachery. And knowing that, having to look at the likes of Dick Cheney lecturing us, or Bibi standing there to gushing ovations in our capital building, knowing that these fiends are responsible for 9/11, and how they intend to use it not just to slaughter millions of innocent people the world over, but also intend to use it to create a police/surveillance state here at home, with the shredding of the document they all swore a sacred oath to uphold, renditions, assassinations and a permanent torture camp!

    We Americans in the know, have to reconcile these facts with what we all see and hear daily.

    we have to pay taxes and send money to a government that we know is our deadliest enemy and murderous fiend on the world’s stage. An enemy that would see some of us burned alive if it meant they could wield more power over the rest of us. An enemy that used our children as cannon fodder to go thousands of miles away and slaughter men, women and children we have nothing whatsoever to do with.

    Our vets are committing suicide at epidemic rates, and we both know why. They can not live with the knowledge of how evil our military has become. How murderous and treasonous and criminal. So they snuff it. It’s that bad.

    I’m not trying to sound like a victim over here, I’m just trying to point out that reconciling what we know about our federal government, and the way it has become absolutely under the thrall of the Fiend, is difficult, because we all must live under this government and pay it taxes unless or until we can emigrate, and that isn’t always a simple thing to do.

    I guess I’m sort of blowing off steam. Ron Unz should send me a bill for the therapy I’ve gotten from his site.

    thanks LK for the links and your perspective

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    Well thanks to you both. It's not that my eyes were shut by any means, they were opened long ago, but it is true they've been opened wider here at The Unz Reveiw (Cheers Ron). What is needed is to introduce more younger people to the site that they will then use their social media networks to distribute information further and increase awareness.

    I knew of the "friendly fire" (I hope to never be that friendly) claims but a hit job had never even occurred to me. Wow! It does make sense.
    , @Z-man
    Well said!

    PS. I still remember Nathan-yahoo coming here and speaking as 'the leader' of our congress. It's still makes me 'mildly' nauseous.

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  214. @Rurik


    Rurik: “Willing to forgo a multi-million dollar career as a football star and risk death to avenge the Americans that were slaughtered by pure evil on that day.”
     
    Yes, and the evil doers are still free
     
    imagine what this is like L.K.

    imagine what it's like knowing that the men and women that are paid and exalted and given great powers, but most of all.. trusted to use all that power and position vested in them to keep the American people protected from harm...

    ..are the very people who would plot and carry out an unprecedented mass-murder -of the very people they're paid and trusted to protect- so horrific that it would stagger Genghis Khan for its sheer monstrous treachery. And knowing that, having to look at the likes of Dick Cheney lecturing us, or Bibi standing there to gushing ovations in our capital building, knowing that these fiends are responsible for 9/11, and how they intend to use it not just to slaughter millions of innocent people the world over, but also intend to use it to create a police/surveillance state here at home, with the shredding of the document they all swore a sacred oath to uphold, renditions, assassinations and a permanent torture camp!

    We Americans in the know, have to reconcile these facts with what we all see and hear daily.

    we have to pay taxes and send money to a government that we know is our deadliest enemy and murderous fiend on the world's stage. An enemy that would see some of us burned alive if it meant they could wield more power over the rest of us. An enemy that used our children as cannon fodder to go thousands of miles away and slaughter men, women and children we have nothing whatsoever to do with.

    Our vets are committing suicide at epidemic rates, and we both know why. They can not live with the knowledge of how evil our military has become. How murderous and treasonous and criminal. So they snuff it. It's that bad.

    I'm not trying to sound like a victim over here, I'm just trying to point out that reconciling what we know about our federal government, and the way it has become absolutely under the thrall of the Fiend, is difficult, because we all must live under this government and pay it taxes unless or until we can emigrate, and that isn't always a simple thing to do.

    I guess I'm sort of blowing off steam. Ron Unz should send me a bill for the therapy I've gotten from his site.

    thanks LK for the links and your perspective

    Well thanks to you both. It’s not that my eyes were shut by any means, they were opened long ago, but it is true they’ve been opened wider here at The Unz Reveiw (Cheers Ron). What is needed is to introduce more younger people to the site that they will then use their social media networks to distribute information further and increase awareness.

    I knew of the “friendly fire” (I hope to never be that friendly) claims but a hit job had never even occurred to me. Wow! It does make sense.

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  215. Z-man says:
    @Rurik


    Rurik: “Willing to forgo a multi-million dollar career as a football star and risk death to avenge the Americans that were slaughtered by pure evil on that day.”
     
    Yes, and the evil doers are still free
     
    imagine what this is like L.K.

    imagine what it's like knowing that the men and women that are paid and exalted and given great powers, but most of all.. trusted to use all that power and position vested in them to keep the American people protected from harm...

    ..are the very people who would plot and carry out an unprecedented mass-murder -of the very people they're paid and trusted to protect- so horrific that it would stagger Genghis Khan for its sheer monstrous treachery. And knowing that, having to look at the likes of Dick Cheney lecturing us, or Bibi standing there to gushing ovations in our capital building, knowing that these fiends are responsible for 9/11, and how they intend to use it not just to slaughter millions of innocent people the world over, but also intend to use it to create a police/surveillance state here at home, with the shredding of the document they all swore a sacred oath to uphold, renditions, assassinations and a permanent torture camp!

    We Americans in the know, have to reconcile these facts with what we all see and hear daily.

    we have to pay taxes and send money to a government that we know is our deadliest enemy and murderous fiend on the world's stage. An enemy that would see some of us burned alive if it meant they could wield more power over the rest of us. An enemy that used our children as cannon fodder to go thousands of miles away and slaughter men, women and children we have nothing whatsoever to do with.

    Our vets are committing suicide at epidemic rates, and we both know why. They can not live with the knowledge of how evil our military has become. How murderous and treasonous and criminal. So they snuff it. It's that bad.

    I'm not trying to sound like a victim over here, I'm just trying to point out that reconciling what we know about our federal government, and the way it has become absolutely under the thrall of the Fiend, is difficult, because we all must live under this government and pay it taxes unless or until we can emigrate, and that isn't always a simple thing to do.

    I guess I'm sort of blowing off steam. Ron Unz should send me a bill for the therapy I've gotten from his site.

    thanks LK for the links and your perspective

    Well said!

    PS. I still remember Nathan-yahoo coming here and speaking as ‘the leader’ of our congress. It’s still makes me ‘mildly’ nauseous.

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  216. geokat62 says:

    OT, but I have a query related to the bolded passage of the following article posted on Foward:

    Senate Democrats Edge Closer To Cutting Aid To Palestinian Authority

    WASHINGTON (JTA) — Top Senate Democrats said they were closer to signing on to a Republican-backed bill that would slash aid to the Palestinian Authority if it did not stop subsidizing Palestinians jailed for attacks on Israel.

    Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer told attendants at the Orthodox Union’s annual Washington action day on Thursday that he would support the Taylor Force Act or legislation similar to it if the Trump administration is unable to get the Palestinian Authority to stop the payments.

    “Abbas has to stop making payments to terrorists and their families, and all elected officials should call them out,” Schumer said.

    Also edging closer to endorsing the legislation was Sen. Ben Cardin, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

    “We’re going to find a way to pass the Taylor Force Act,” Cardin said, suggesting that he wanted changes to the bill before he could fully endorse it. The measure was named for the American killed in a 2016 stabbing attack in Tel Aviv.

    The United States now gives the Palestinian Authority about $500 million in annual aid. The bill, which was introduced by Republican Sens. Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham, would only leave the portion for security assistance — about $60 million in 2013. Cruz also attended the Orthodox Union event.

    http://forward.com/fast-forward/374947/senate-democrats-edge-closer-to-cutting-aid-to-palestinian-authority/?attribution=home-top-story-7-headline

    Do you think we’ll ever live to see the Knesset West, er I mean Congress, pass the Rachel Corrie Act? She too was an American killed in a 2003 bulldozer attack in Rafah. Maybe not, since it was an IDF armored bulldozer and not a knife-wielding Palestinian.

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    geokat: "Do you think we’ll ever live to see the Knesset West, er I mean Congress, pass the Rachel Corrie Act? She too was an American killed in a 2003 bulldozer attack in Rafah. Maybe not, since it was an IDF armored bulldozer and not a knife-wielding Palestinian."

    Well, according to the israelis, the death of Rachel Corrie was an "accident"...

    "The exact nature of her death and the culpability of the bulldozer operator are disputed, with fellow ISM protestors saying that the Israeli soldier operating the bulldozer deliberately ran over Corrie, and Israeli eyewitnesses saying that it was an accident since the bulldozer operator could not see her.[10][11][12][13]

    The Israeli army conducted an investigation, which concluded that the death was an accident..."
     
    Her killing was an "accident" much like the israeli attack on the Liberty was an "accident"...
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  217. geokat62 says:

    Late breaking news:

    Governor Signs Kansas Bill Outlawing Discriminatory Boycotts of Israel

    Kansas became the latest state to adopt a law barring the state from doing business with entities that boycott Israel when Gov. Sam Brownback signed the bill into law on Friday.

    The bill, HB 2409, passed the Kansas senate last Wednesday by a 39 to 3 vote and a few hours later passed the state’s House by 99 – 13.

    According to the bill the state and none of its agencies may not “enter into a contract with an individual or company to acquire or dispose of services, supplies, information technology or construction, unless such individual or company submits a written certification that such individual or company is not currently engaged in a boycott of Israel.”

    Further on the bill states that the problem with such boycotts is that they are imposed “on the basis of such person’s location in such places.”

    Similar anti-BDS bills have become law in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Illinois, South Carolina, Arizona, Georgia, Colorado, Florida, Alabama, California, New Jersey, Ohio, Rhode Island, Arkansas, Minnesota, Nevada, and Iowa. New York governor Andrew Cuomo approved a similar measure by executive order.

    Advocates of these measures have emphasized that they do not raise any First Amendment issues, as private parties are still free to protest, boycott, or speak out against Israel in any way. However, states may be obligated to protect taxpayer money from being used to promote or support discrimination based on religion, race, or nationality.

    The passage of anti-BDS legislation reflects an understanding that the campaign “is not like the civil rights protests, as its supporters love to claim, but rather more like the anti-Jewish boycotts so common in Europe in the 20th century, and in the Arab world until this day,” Northwestern University law professor Eugene Kontorovich wrote in The Washington Post in 2015.

    It seems The Lobby is hard at work trying to defeat the biggest threat facing the Zionist entity, as explained by Maria LaHood in her recent speech, Recent Legislation that Threatens First Amendment Rights of Palestinian Solidary Activists and the Legal Challenges Thereto.

    Here is the concluding paragraph of her speech:

    All over the world, including in the U.S., people are increasingly refusing to be complicit in Israel’s violations of international law, and are demanding the same of our government officials. It’s not simply a matter of our right to dissent; it is our moral duty. Cooperation with the occupation, with apartheid, is complicity. BDS helped end apartheid in South Africa, and it will eventually do the same in Israel. The wave of anti-BDS legislation just shows the power of the movement for Palestinian rights has to expose Israel’s violations of international law, and eventually help bring them to an end. Thank you. [APPLAUSE]

    [MORE]

    Thank you very much. Thanks to IRmep and the American Educational Trust for inviting me to speak. It’s an honor to be here with you all.

    Israel has declared that BDS is the biggest threat it faces. As mentioned earlier, it has recently banned BDS supporters from even entering the country. Boycott, divestment and sanctions is a nonviolent, time-honored tactic to demand basic rights, such as equality. Proponents of BDS simply demand that Israel comply with international law. Yet, tens of millions of dollars are being spent to combat BDS; to combat a peaceful means of seeking social change and respect for human rights. Students for Justice in Palestine groups have been active all over the country educating their campuses. This is despite being maligned as uncivil, divisive, anti-Semitic, or supportive of terrorism; despite being investigated and disciplined when they protest; despite the bureaucratic barriers they face when they try to form a club or bring in a speaker to talk about BDS.

    Recently the administration of Fordham in New York rejected students’ application to even form an SJP, stating that it was polarizing, and that calling for BDS is a barrier to open dialogue, and claiming that SJP groups at other schools have engaged in misconduct. Each of these reasons violates basic principles of free speech and free association, not to mention the university’s mission to foster intellectual and moral development and open inquiry.

    Despite widespread efforts to suppress activism for Palestinian rights, it is on the rise on campuses and off. The U.S. Campaign for Palestinian Rights has a list of 170-plus United States BDS victories. Students have passed divestment resolutions on campuses all over the country. Numerous churches and foundations have divested from companies facilitating the occupation. And the culture and academic boycott continues to grow. Six NFL players recently pulled out of an Israeli-sponsored government trip to Israel.

    As we know, when there’s no defense, the tactic of a bully is to silence, malign or intimidate the speaker. According to the Emergency Committee for Israel, which has supported the nationwide anti-BDS legislative effort, legislating against BDS tells its proponents, “while you were doing your campus antics, the grownups were in the state legislatures passing laws that make your cause improbable.” Thus far, 16 states have passed anti-BDS legislation of one form or another. The Israeli Foreign Ministry, in cooperation with the Israel advocacy organizations, is reportedly behind the anti-BDS laws. Several of these laws establish a public blacklist of entities that boycott Israel and prevent the state from investing in them or contracting with them.

    The first such law was passed in Illinois in 2015. It blacklists foreign companies that boycott and requires the state’s pension fund to divest from them. Florida and Arizona passed laws to create blacklists of companies and other entities that boycott, and the state is prevented from contracting with them, as well as investing in them. Maryland currently has similar blacklist bills pending which also apply to natural persons and non-governmental organizations, meaning that individuals, churches, foundations, trade unions and other groups could be blacklisted for boycotting or divesting from corporations complicit in Israel’s violations.

    The bills are supported by the Jewish Community Relations Council, but there’s a large, well-organized broad-based coalition fighting them, so they’re lingering—and in Maryland, the legislative session ends on April 10. Activists had mobilized against similar bills in New York, so Governor [Andrew] Cuomo bypassed the legislative process, which he called “tedious,” and issued an executive order to create a blacklist of institutions and companies that the state must divest from. Incidentally, the executive order that Governor Cuomo signed was signed on the day of the Celebrate Israel Day parade in New York.

    The American Jewish Committee lobbied for the New York law and Governor Cuomo has been named co-chair of AJC’s Governors [United] Against BDS initiative. Thus far, the state blacklists that exist in Illinois, Florida, and New York have only named foreign corporations. Not to say that others couldn’t be added in Florida and New York. Colorado has an anti-BDS list that is completely blank, and Arizona’s list is due out April 1st. So although the blacklist tactic is pure McCarthy, the actual reach thus far is quite limited—but the chill can be much broader. Although New York already has a blacklist, earlier this month the New York State Senate fast-tracked three bills aimed at silencing advocates of Palestinian rights, with no committee hearing and no opportunity for public input or debate, and they passed with overwhelming support.

    One bill is like the executive order in New York, but expands the blacklist to include individuals and nonprofits. One bill would prohibit state funding for student organizations at state or city universities, or community colleges, that support BDS campaigns against Israel. The other would take away state funding from colleges that use state aid to fund any academic organization that advocates a boycott of Israel. Several academic institutions have endorsed the call for a boycott of Israeli academic institutions. In 2013, when the American Studies Association did so, legislatures around the country proposed bills similar to this one, but a public outcry prevented them from passing. Companion bills have not yet been introduced in the New York Assembly for these three bills, but we’re on the lookout.

    California passed a law requiring prospective contractors to certify under penalty of perjury that they’re not violating state anti-discrimination laws; and, if they have a policy against a foreign nation, that they don’t use it to discriminate. The bills had originally explicitly prohibited contracting with companies that boycott Israel, but because of the mobilization against them and constitutional concerns, they were substantially revised. But the law still names no nation other than Israel and no discrimination other than against Jewish individuals under the “pretext of a constitutionally protected boycott or protest of the state of Israel.”

    A few states—Virginia, South Carolina, Massachusetts and Tennessee—as well as Congress, have introduced bills to expand the definition of anti-Semitism to include criticism of Israel for purposes of determining whether someone is discriminated against. These bills adopt the definition of anti-Semitism that’s used by the United States State Department to monitor human rights violations around the world, which describes anti-Semitism relative to Israel as demonizing Israel, applying a double standard to Israel, and delegitimizing Israel.

    In South Carolina, the House passed a bill this week requiring colleges and universities to use this anti-Semitism definition in deciding whether their policies are violated, to the praise of the Zionist Organization of America. Activists recently defeated similar Virginia bills which would have amended Virginia’s Human Rights Act to include the definition. The Massachusetts bill was also defeated. These bills are problematic on many levels, including that the distorted definition undermines the fight against true anti-Semitism—not to mention their sole focus on anti-Semitism to the exclusion of other forms of bigotry, such as the rise of Islamaphobia.

    In December the United States Senate passed by unanimous consent the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act, which would have required the Department of Education to consider the State Department definition of anti-Semitism in determining whether a university had discriminated in violation of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It died in the House, but it certainly could be introduced again.

    There is a current bill in Congress, the Combating BDS Act, supported by AIPAC and introduced by Senator [Marco] Rubio, that attempts to nullify the argument that state anti-BDS laws should be struck down because they’re pre-empted by federal law. But the main argument against these state laws is not that they are pre-empted, but that they violate the First Amendment.

    There was also the 2015 Trade Promotion Authority Law, which requires the U.S. government to discourage BDS or trade barriers against Israel in trade negotiations with European Union countries. And who knows what else is coming at the federal level?

    Yesterday the Senate confirmed David Friedman as U.S. ambassador to Israel, 52-46. Friedman has taken the position that the U.S. should view BDS as inherently anti-Semitic and take strong measures, both diplomatic and legislative, to thwart it. But for all the anti-BDS bills that have passed, many more have been defeated, showing the power of mobilization: that organizing, and writing and calling, and meeting with your representatives, makes a difference. Legislators have heard concerns that the bills are unconstitutional, but they’ve also heard their constituents’ passionate views about Palestinian rights.

    It’s important to remember that none of the anti-BDS laws take away your right to boycott or to advocate for BDS, nor can they under the U.S. Constitution. They do, however, punish expression of a particular viewpoint—BDS against Israel—which is unconstitutional. Under the First Amendment, the government cannot pass a law that abridges our freedom of speech or discriminates based on viewpoint. It cannot regulate our speech based on its content or message. In a case stemming from the boycott of white businesses in Mississippi in the 1960s to demand racial equality, the Supreme Court made clear that nonviolent boycotts to bring about political, social or economic change are protected under the First Amendment. Moreover, the government may not deny a benefit to someone for exercising their constitutional rights.

    We must demand that our state and local lawmakers protect our federal right to protest and dissent, and reject these unconstitutional laws. And when they do pass, we must not let them chill our protected speech. But it’s even more critical that we resist the distraction of focusing on our speech rights in the U.S., and instead use the fact that our legislators are actually talking about BDS against Israel, as an opportunity for us to talk about Palestinian rights and freedom.

    We need to defend our right to engage in BDS, but we must demand an end to the occupation, to apartheid, to settlements, to the closure of Gaza, to attacks on human rights defenders in the occupied Palestinian territory who are targeted, arrested, detained, threatened and harassed for peacefully protesting, for seeking justice and accountability. It’s also essential to be uniting struggles. In addition to anti-BDS laws, and in response to recent protests across the United States, a recent wave of anti-protest bills have been introduced in state legislatures which increase fines and impose jail time for protesters. In response to Standing Rock protests, North Dakota introduced bills that would exempt drivers from liability if they injured or killed protesters on a roadway, as long as they didn’t do it intentionally.

    We need to keep making connections between struggles. We need to keep making connections between settler colonialism, state violence, and racism in this country and in Israel. The struggle for Palestinian liberation is tied to all struggles against oppression. As Martin Luther King, Jr. said, “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” He also described the pivotal Montgomery bus boycott against segregation in the U.S. as a refusal to cooperate with an evil system.

    All over the world, including in the U.S., people are increasingly refusing to be complicit in Israel’s violations of international law, and are demanding the same of our government officials. It’s not simply a matter of our right to dissent; it is our moral duty. Cooperation with the occupation, with apartheid, is complicity. BDS helped end apartheid in South Africa, and it will eventually do the same in Israel. The wave of anti-BDS legislation just shows the power of the movement for Palestinian rights has to expose Israel’s violations of international law, and eventually help bring them to an end. Thank you. [APPLAUSE]

    http://israellobbyandamericanpolicy.org/Transcripts/Maria_LaHood.html

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  218. @Jake
    I believe Qatar has the highest per capita income (for its citizens) in the world. That can never sit well with the House of Saud.

    The British Empire made the House of Saud what it is, and the American successors of the Brits intend to keep the con game going. Wise and decent US leadership would recognize the Saudis as the worst of the Middle East and act accordingly. But the English all but created them, and we follow the English lead. And ow that the Israelis dearly love the Saudis, we can expect to see US-Israeli-Saudi mischief all over the region.

    It was not only the UK that gave ultimate shape to the Kingdom of Saud . The Jews also forged the House of Saud. Look it up on internet. A couple of centuries ago a Jewish family of the Mid East went to Arabia and outwardly converted to Islam.Their names are still known and some Jews of the present still can trace their relatives in the Ruling family. It is not unknown for Jews to outwardly convert to reach positions of power. See Donmeh of Turkey famous sons being at least three leaders of 1920s Turkey including Mustapha Kemal Attaturk who of course slaughtered the Christians of Anatolia ie Armenians,Assyrians and Greeks . There are still Jews in Europe after Hitler but precious few Christians in Turkey after Kemal.

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  219. @anon

    this treacherous “shitty” nation
     
    Must be strange to totallyl obsessed and consumed with something so trivial as " a shitty nation ".
    But you being an Aryan I would think you would be more concerned with Germany and the fact that you will lose the Aryan homeland within a couple of generations due to almost zero native birth rate ,a soaring Muslim birhrate from your pet " refugees" and turkish laboreres, and millions more military age Muslim men ( refugees ) pouring over your borders . But don't worry , keep obsessing over Jews. By the way who perpetrated the sexual assault festival at Germanys expense on New Years Eve , Jews or Muslims ,?? Who kidnapped/groomed and pimped out 1400 native British girls in Rotherham , Muslims or Jews ??

    Both are the same people from a blood point of view. They are called Semites. Science and if you prefer the Bible tells us so.

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  220. @Mal
    The author left out the bombing of Serbia in 1999. 15 tonnes of depleted uranium (a banned weapon by Geneva convention) was dropped on Serbia. They bombed the Serbs in support of Albanian terrorists. Terrorists who are now in power in Kosovo and run the largest drug, arms and human trafficking racket in Europe. All thanks to America

    And where is the largest US military base in Europe located? Kosovo, that's where

    More power to you Mal for telling this taboo truth. No one in power likes to mention this little beauty. So we NATOists helped Moslem jihadist whiteslavers ,drug traffickers and hitmen…yes all true just look up Interpol and police info on internet dated before Nato bombing of Serbia over Kosovo.. To kill and head chop fellow Christians . Yes head chopping by jihadists of Christians re _started again since 1920s Turkey.Who financed these head choppers in poor little Bosnia and Kosovo that we so bright westerners so had to help. Yes it was the usual suspects…Qatar,Saudi Arabia,Turkey ,Kuwait etc. Note that None of these countries take in any of these Moslem hordes invading Europe and yes they haven,t stopped funding terrorism . As for Kosovo and Bosnia , they are the biggest concentration of returned jihadist headchoppers from Syria. Thats right Biggest us bases in their midst and we still cant exterminate them. Dont forget our other big base in terrorist funding qatar as we speak.

    kosovo and Bosnia still export hitmen ,sex slaves and heroin to rest of Europe and their leaders are just ex mob bosses turned rebel head chopping chiefs to so called presidents who one of our Western pr firms told to shave ,have a haircut and wear a tie and suit probably for the first time in their lives.

    A thinking person would suppose that our governments ie UK and USA dont really care about head-choppers killing Christians unless it happens in our midst. Dont worry the chickens always come home to roost! For the Biblically minded”he who sows the wind will reap the whirlwind”

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  222. L.K says:
    @geokat62
    OT, but I have a query related to the bolded passage of the following article posted on Foward:

    Senate Democrats Edge Closer To Cutting Aid To Palestinian Authority

    WASHINGTON (JTA) — Top Senate Democrats said they were closer to signing on to a Republican-backed bill that would slash aid to the Palestinian Authority if it did not stop subsidizing Palestinians jailed for attacks on Israel.

    Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer told attendants at the Orthodox Union’s annual Washington action day on Thursday that he would support the Taylor Force Act or legislation similar to it if the Trump administration is unable to get the Palestinian Authority to stop the payments.

    “Abbas has to stop making payments to terrorists and their families, and all elected officials should call them out,” Schumer said.

    Also edging closer to endorsing the legislation was Sen. Ben Cardin, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

    “We’re going to find a way to pass the Taylor Force Act,” Cardin said, suggesting that he wanted changes to the bill before he could fully endorse it. The measure was named for the American killed in a 2016 stabbing attack in Tel Aviv.

    The United States now gives the Palestinian Authority about $500 million in annual aid. The bill, which was introduced by Republican Sens. Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham, would only leave the portion for security assistance — about $60 million in 2013. Cruz also attended the Orthodox Union event.

    http://forward.com/fast-forward/374947/senate-democrats-edge-closer-to-cutting-aid-to-palestinian-authority/?attribution=home-top-story-7-headline
     
    Do you think we'll ever live to see the Knesset West, er I mean Congress, pass the Rachel Corrie Act? She too was an American killed in a 2003 bulldozer attack in Rafah. Maybe not, since it was an IDF armored bulldozer and not a knife-wielding Palestinian.

    geokat: “Do you think we’ll ever live to see the Knesset West, er I mean Congress, pass the Rachel Corrie Act? She too was an American killed in a 2003 bulldozer attack in Rafah. Maybe not, since it was an IDF armored bulldozer and not a knife-wielding Palestinian.”

    Well, according to the israelis, the death of Rachel Corrie was an “accident”…

    “The exact nature of her death and the culpability of the bulldozer operator are disputed, with fellow ISM protestors saying that the Israeli soldier operating the bulldozer deliberately ran over Corrie, and Israeli eyewitnesses saying that it was an accident since the bulldozer operator could not see her.[10][11][12][13]

    The Israeli army conducted an investigation, which concluded that the death was an accident…”

    Her killing was an “accident” much like the israeli attack on the Liberty was an “accident”…

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  223. L.K says:

    https://www.amazon.com/Visas-Al-Qaeda-Handouts-Insiders/dp/0990926206/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497498321&sr=8-1&keywords=Visas+for+al-qaeda

    Visas for Al Qaeda: CIA Handouts That Rocked the World: An Insider’s View

    Thousands of American soldiers and civil servants have lost their lives in the War on Terror. Innocent citizens of many nations, including Americans killed on 9/11, have also paid the ultimate price. While the US government claims to stand against terror, this same government refuses to acknowledge its role in creating what has become a deadly international quagmire. Visas for al-Qaeda: CIA Handouts That Rocked the World sets the record straight by laying the blame on high-ranking US government officials.

    During the 1980s, the CIA recruited and trained Muslim operatives to fight the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Later, the CIA would move those operatives from Afghanistan to the Balkans, and then to Iraq, Libya, and Syria, traveling on illegal US visas. These US-backed and trained fighters would morph into an organization that is synonymous with jihadist terrorism: al-Qaeda.

    J. Michael Springmann, a former US diplomat, names individuals and organizations that deny culpability

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    I doubt if that's even an accurate quote of "a former US diplomat". Not that it's all wrong. It's just that it is hard to see even a humble vice-consul saying that the "operatives" were "traveling" to all those countries "on illegal US visas". And if you don't know what my point is please be a little more modest in thrusting your opinions on people.
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  224. Well done.

    This Saudi prince has proved to be reckless and short-sighted. Saudi Arabia’s finances are in poor shape and their little Yemeni war crime isn’t working out so well. Syria too – the Russians have put a stop to their designs.

    No worries. Just light some more sticks of TNT around yourself.

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  225. @AmericaFirstNow
    No fake OBL tapes! They were real! See following article from Haaretz:

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/report-bin-laden-warned-u-s-over-security-of-palestine-in-final-tape-1.360595

    Following from UK Guardian:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/oct/30/alqaida.september11

    Bin Laden fatwas mentioned in following youtube as well:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaA7hh0FeGw&list=PLfrlsC1yJ2dTKGJXOEaRryaK1ibxbLp17

    It seems strange that energetic practical people in a famously can-do country don’t take some obvious steps to counter the divisive uncertainties amd suspicions about lies thst afflict America. There must be enough authentic recordings of ObL’s voice (or at least that are probables and consistent with one another when compared electronically) for audio engineets to be able to test each claimed but contested recording for authenticity. Any cost, even without volunteered expertise, would be well withonthe scope of crowdfunding from UR comenters alone if George Soros won’t fork out petty cash.

    To establish that all the recordings appeared to be genuine would be a big thing. To establish that even two out of ten made in his supposed later years were fake would also be a big deal. Who the hell could have wanted to do something so likely to come unstuck?!

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  226. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Both KSA and USA have long been colonies and attack dogs of Isreal and its world domination.

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  227. @Rurik

    Udo Ulfkotte... .... a pathetic creature
     
    http://blog.cancaonova.com/diarioespiritual/files/2015/04/Jesus-no-sinédrio-1.jpg

    crucify him!

    No but I’ll give him 1500 years for his influence to start being good by modern standards (just).

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  228. @Bill Jones
    You do realize "Al Qaeda" is the CIA, don't you?

    Connected to the CIA in its origins: no argument. But “is the CIA”??? What do you mean?

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  229. @L.K
    https://www.amazon.com/Visas-Al-Qaeda-Handouts-Insiders/dp/0990926206/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497498321&sr=8-1&keywords=Visas+for+al-qaeda

    Visas for Al Qaeda: CIA Handouts That Rocked the World: An Insider's View

    Thousands of American soldiers and civil servants have lost their lives in the War on Terror. Innocent citizens of many nations, including Americans killed on 9/11, have also paid the ultimate price. While the US government claims to stand against terror, this same government refuses to acknowledge its role in creating what has become a deadly international quagmire. Visas for al-Qaeda: CIA Handouts That Rocked the World sets the record straight by laying the blame on high-ranking US government officials.

    During the 1980s, the CIA recruited and trained Muslim operatives to fight the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Later, the CIA would move those operatives from Afghanistan to the Balkans, and then to Iraq, Libya, and Syria, traveling on illegal US visas. These US-backed and trained fighters would morph into an organization that is synonymous with jihadist terrorism: al-Qaeda.

    J. Michael Springmann, a former US diplomat, names individuals and organizations that deny culpability
     

    I doubt if that’s even an accurate quote of “a former US diplomat”. Not that it’s all wrong. It’s just that it is hard to see even a humble vice-consul saying that the “operatives” were “traveling” to all those countries “on illegal US visas”. And if you don’t know what my point is please be a little more modest in thrusting your opinions on people.

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  230. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Rurik

    The current Iranian regime is at least as ruthless and oppressive as was the regime led by the Shah.
     
    I've never been to Iran, but somehow I doubt that

    ..Little was heard about the royal family's financial scandals and their heroin smuggling on a global scale.

    SAVAK conducted most of the torture, under the friendly guidance of the CIA. which set up SAVAK in 1957 and taught them how to interrogate suspects. Amnesty International reports methods of torture that included "whipping and beating, electric shocks, extraction of teeth and nails, boiling water pumped into the rectum, heavy weights hung on the testicles, tying the prisoner to a metal table heated to a white heat, inserting a broken bottle into the anus, and rape."

    The Shah greatly expanded the military and turned it against his own people. With newfound oil wealth the Shah bought $2C million of U.S. arms. The U.S. military trained Iranian officers. Despite claims that a strong army was needed to prevent external agression, its real purpose became clear last year when the army murdered more than 50,000 Iranians fighting the Shah (the number is based on estimates of dead quickly buried after street massacres and compiled throughout the year).

    Under the Shah education was a means of pacification. Our history books were full of lies ..
     
    http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1979/12/6/life-under-the-shah-pit-was/

    History books full of lies. How eerily familiar that sounds.

    for a glimpse into the kind of culture the Zio-West was imposing on Iran during the Shah's regime, just take a look at what Hollywood has had to settle with since losing Iran to those right-wing types who won't let Hollywood determine their culture anymore. This fellow is from a show called the Shahs of Sunset, and this is just glimpse I found in a ten second search


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUpAjAAK3aM

    I have never been to Iran either.

    I am very close friends with a number of Iranians. They have told me the current regime is ruthless and totally without morals. Torturing dissidents is common.

    When will the Iranian people be free from the twin evils of the Anglo-Zionists and the Islamic nutjobs?

    They are a kind and decent people who have contributed greatly to civilization.

    In fact a careful study will document that their contributions may have been every bit or more significant than that of the Greeks.

    Any glory that could be given to the Islamic world came from the Persians.

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    So, you have never been to Iran, but you have expat Iranian friends who hate the current government, how shocking! A lot of the people who left Iran after the revolution were members of the privileged minority who benefited from the Shah's ruthless regime... they are not even remotely representative of Iran's population as a whole.

    The other point is that just bc your alleged Iranian friends told you something doesn't mean it is true. Not at all.

    It is sort of like asking some expat Cuban American in the ZUSA about the Cuban government; generally they'll have nothing good to say, and oftentimes they'll make bad things up... like your Iranian friends..
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  231. L.K says:
    @lavoisier
    I have never been to Iran either.

    I am very close friends with a number of Iranians. They have told me the current regime is ruthless and totally without morals. Torturing dissidents is common.

    When will the Iranian people be free from the twin evils of the Anglo-Zionists and the Islamic nutjobs?

    They are a kind and decent people who have contributed greatly to civilization.

    In fact a careful study will document that their contributions may have been every bit or more significant than that of the Greeks.

    Any glory that could be given to the Islamic world came from the Persians.

    So, you have never been to Iran, but you have expat Iranian friends who hate the current government, how shocking! A lot of the people who left Iran after the revolution were members of the privileged minority who benefited from the Shah’s ruthless regime… they are not even remotely representative of Iran’s population as a whole.

    The other point is that just bc your alleged Iranian friends told you something doesn’t mean it is true. Not at all.

    It is sort of like asking some expat Cuban American in the ZUSA about the Cuban government; generally they’ll have nothing good to say, and oftentimes they’ll make bad things up… like your Iranian friends..

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  232. […] ← Liars Lying About Nearly Everything […]

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  233. @Sam Shama

    98 to 2? Aside from BS’s “no” vote, just one American senator had the cajones to defy The Lobby.
     
    So, Sanders is not an American? Are you aware that only Americans can be senators?

    This is just another example of your stealthy hatred. Iffen describes spot on, your pathology. A Canadian taking the grand liberty to strip a seventy-year-old American of his identity. That is rich indeed!

    Read it again Sam. I think here and later you must have been under the influence of lack of sleep. Apart from [scil. American Senator] BS’s “no” vote just one American Senator ,,,,
    Who is suggesting that BS is not an American Senator?

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  234. @Philip Giraldi
    Done! Thanks for catching it!

    Now that I have your attention PG allow me to ask you your opinion of Taki’s take on the Qatar business in a very recent Takimag piece.

    In essence he invites us to believe the story of his Greek LNG tanker owner friend who says Qatar was being stitched up at the insistence of Trump so that the US rather than Qatar would be able to sell LNG to China. In return the Pres offered Saudi Arabia help against Iran?

    Also…. my question in #1: what was the lie sbout bin Laden relevant to attacking Afghanistan?

    BTW doesn’t Ockham’s razor support the view that bin Laden got exactly what he wanted from 9/11, namely the US mired in a rerun of Vietnam?

    And in case you are willing to be just a little immodest about your physics can you not agree that you only need to understand addition of vectors in old-fashioned Newtonian physics to see that it is going to be hundreds of tons of building above the initial point of collapse that dominates direction (largely vertical) rather than some asymmetry in the weaknesses of the steelwork at the collapse level. I have just spoken to a retired Oxford and Chicago physicist who confirmed that this was unquestionably correct.

    Mind you I find it equally potent to consider the idea that Larry Siverstein would have approved or arranged a controlled demolition. How could he rely on persons unknown flying planes into exactly the right levels of the towers where the demolition charges were laid? Of course he couldn’t! How could he risk only one tower being hit and the other one minutely searched? And who else but Silverstein could benefit significantly from the towers being not only hit but destroyed. That wasn’t necessary to get a war started in Afghanistan!

    I suspect Ron is rather enjoying the feckless opinionating on 9/11 that he hosts as he has avoided even responding to my similar questions. Likewise on the USS Liberty scandal where the critical evidence is surely any NSA intercepts that, with the Hebrew properly translated show an intention at the highest level to kill all Liberty’s crew. Otherwise I tend to be impressed by the Stuart Slade version snd will remain so. Again I suspect Ron of being mischievous because the first person to cite the Slade version was responded to with “You utterly ignorant nitwit!” which struck me as affectionate joshing for an old college room mate…

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