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At a recent panel discussion in Washington, screenwriter, film director and producer Oliver Stone briefly addressed the issue of alleged Russian interference in the recent national election, observing that “Israel interfered in the U.S. election far more than Russia and nobody is investigating them.” A few days later, in an interview with Stephen Colbert on the Late Show, Stone returned to the theme, responding to an aggressive claim that Russia had interfered in the election by challenging Colbert with “Israel had far more involvement in the U.S. election than Russia. Why don’t you ask me about that?”

Don’t look for the exchange with Colbert on YouTube. CBS deleted it from its broadcast and website, demonstrating once again that the “I” word cannot be disparaged on national television. Stone was, of course, referring to the fact that the Israel Lobby, most notably acting through its American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), is undeniably a foreign lobby, no less so than anyone representing the presumed interests of Russia or China. It operates with complete impunity on Capitol Hill and also at state and local levels and no one dares to require it to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938, which would permit scrutiny of its finances and also end its tax-exempt “educational” status. Nor does Congress or the media see fit to inquire into AIPAC’s empowerment of candidates based on their fidelity to Israel, not to mention the direct interference in the American electoral process which surfaced most visibly in its support of candidate Mitt Romney in 2012.

The last president that sought to compel the predecessor organization of AIPAC to register was John F. Kennedy, who also was about to take steps to rein in Israel’s secret nuclear weapons program when he was assassinated, which was a lucky break for Israel, particularly as Kennedy was replaced by the passionate Zionist Lyndon Baines Johnson. Funny how things sometimes work out. The Warren Commission looked deeply into a possible Cuban connection in the shooting and came up with nothing but one has to wonder if they also investigated the possible roles of other countries. Likewise, the 9/11 Commission Report failed to examine the possible involvement of Israel in the terrorist attack in spite of a considerable body of evidence suggesting that there were a number of Israeli-sourced covert operations running in the U.S. at that time.

Looking back from the perspective of his more than 40 years of military service, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Thomas Moorer described the consequences of Jewish power vis-à-vis U.S. policy towards Israel, stating that “I’ve never seen a president – I don’t care who he is – stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles your mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn’t writing anything down. If the American people understood what a grip those people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens don’t have any idea what goes on.”

He also addressed the 1967 Israeli assault on the USS Liberty, saying “Israel attempted to prevent the Liberty’s radio operators from sending a call for help by jamming American emergency radio channels. [And that] Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned lifeboats at close range that had been lowered to rescue the most-seriously wounded.” He concluded with “our government put Israel’s interests ahead of our own? If so, Why? Does our government continue to subordinate American interests to Israeli interests?”

It is a question that might well be asked today, as the subservience to Israeli interests is, if anything, more pervasive in 2017 Washington than it was in 2002 when Moorer spoke up. And, as in Moorer’s day, much of the partiality towards Israel makes its way through congress with little or no media coverage lest anyone begin to wonder whose tail is wagging which dog. To put it succinctly, there is an Israeli hand in much of what the United States does internationally, and the involvement is not intended to do anything good for the American people.

During the past several weeks alone there has been a flurry of legislation backed by Israel and its Lobby. One bill might actually have been written by AIPAC. It is called Senate 722, Countering Iran’s Destabilizing Activities Act of 2017. The bill has 63 co-sponsors, most of whom are the usual suspects, but it also included an astonishingly large number of Democrats who describe themselves as progressive, including Corey Booker and Kamila Harris, both of whom are apparently terrified lest they say “no” to Israel. With 63 co-sponsors out of 100 senators the bill was certain to pass overwhelmingly, and it was indeed approved 98 to 2, with only Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders voting “no.”

And there’s more to S.722 than Iran – it’s subtitle is “An act to provide congressional review and to counter Iranian and Russian governments’ aggression.” Much of it is designed to increase sanctions on both Iran and Russia while also limiting the White House’s ability to relieve any sanctions without approval by congress. Regarding Iran, the bill mandates that “Not later than 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and every 2 years thereafter, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of the Treasury, and the Director of National Intelligence shall jointly develop and submit to the appropriate congressional committees a strategy for deterring conventional and asymmetric Iranian activities and threats that directly threaten the United States and key allies in the Middle East, North Africa, and beyond.”

The premise is of course nonsensical as Iran’s ability to threaten anyone, least of all the United States, is limited. It is far outgunned by its neighbors and even more so by the U.S., but it has become the enemy of choice for congress as well as for the former generals who serve as White House advisers. The animus against Iran comes directly from Israel and from the Saudi Arabians, who have managed to sell their version of developments in their part of the world through a completely acquiescent and heavily Jewish influenced western media.

And there’s more. A bill has surfaced in the House of Representatives that will require the United States to “consult” with Israel regarding any prospective arms sales to Arab countries in the Middle East. In other words, Israel will have a say, backed up undoubtedly by Congress and the media, over what the United States does in terms of its weapons sales abroad. The sponsors of the bill, one Brad Schneider of Illinois, and Claudia Tenney of New York, want “closer scrutiny of future military arms sales” to maintain the “qualitative military edge” that Israel currently enjoys.

Schneider is, of course, Jewish and a life member of AIPAC, so it is hardly as if he is a disinterested party. Tenny runs for office in New York State, so it is hardly as if she is disinterested either, but the net result of all this is that American jobs and U.S. international security arrangements through weapons sales will be at least in part subject to Israeli veto. And you know that is precisely what will happen as Israel could give a damn what happens to the struggling American entity that it so successfully feeds off of.

And there’s still more. Bill HR 672 Combating European Anti-Semitism Act of 2017 was passed unanimously by the House of Representatives on June 14th. Yes, I said “unanimously.” The bill requires the State Department to monitor what European nations and their police forces are doing about anti-Semitism and encourages them to adopt “a uniform definition of anti-Semitism.” That means that criticism of Israel must be considered anti-Semitism and will therefore be a hate crime and prosecutable, a status that is already de facto true in Britain and France. If the Europeans don’t play ball, there is the possibility of repercussions in trade negotiations. The bill was co-sponsored by Ileana Ros-Lehtinen from Florida and Nita Lowey of New York, both of whom are Jewish.

There is also a Senate companion bill on offer in the Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism Act of 2017. The bill will make the Anti-Semitism Envoy a full American Ambassador and will empower him or her with a full staff and a budget permitting meddling worldwide. The bill is sponsored by Kirsten Gillibrand of New York and Marco Rubio of Florida. Gillibrand is unlikely to miss co-sponsoring anything relating to Israel due to her own self-interest and Rubio wants to be president real bad so he is following the money.

And finally, the U.S. Senate has also approved a resolution celebrating the 50th anniversary of Israel’s conquest of East Jerusalem. Again, the vote was unanimous. The resolution was co-sponsored by Senators Charles Schumer and Mitch McConnell, two reptiles who give snakes a bad name and about whom the less said the better. Schumer is Jewish and has described himself as the “shomer” or guardian of Israel in the Senate. That the resolution opposes long established U.S. government policy that the occupation of East Jerusalem and the West Bank by Israel is in contravention of international law and is an impediment to any peace process with the Palestinians apparently bothered not even one Senator.

I might note in passing that there has been no Senate resolution commemorating the 50th anniversary of the bravery exhibited by the officers and crew of the USS Liberty as they were being slaughtered by the Israelis at the same time as Jerusalem was being “liberated.” There is probably even more to say, to include secret agreements with the Pentagon and intelligence agencies, but I will stop at this point with one final observation. President Donald Trump traveled to the Middle East claiming to be desirous of starting serious negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians, but it was all a sham. Benjamin Netanyahu took him aside and came out with the usual Israeli bullshit about the Palestinians “inciting” violence and hatred of Jews and Trump bought into it. He then went to see Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and shouted at him for being a liar and opposed to peace based on what Netanyahu had told him. That is what passes for even-handed in the U.S. government, no matter who is president. A few days later the Israelis announced the building of the largest bloc of illegal new settlements on the West Bank since 1992, an action that they claim is being coordinated with Washington.

Former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon once boasted about owning the United States. I guess he was right.

 
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  1. nsa says:

    Lincoln’s words need a modern update: “government of the jooies, by the jooies, for the jooies shall not perish from the earth”.

    • Replies: @F M Shyanguya
  2. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Very repetitive . Same thing week after week . A single minded obsession , complete monomania. More cannot be expected from an avowed Iran-firster , though. Im sure the takkiyah trolls in the echo chamber will greedily gobble it up , and why not , they share the same obsession.

  3. Cannot see any dirty little secret.
    John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt, ‘The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy’, New York 2007
    A very well documented description of zionist power in the USA.
    Then there is senator Hollings’ 2004 speech, where he stated that Bush jr in a speech at AIPAC promised them to attack Iraq, in order to get the jewish votes.
    Anyone who still has doubts should try to listen to Hillary’s speech in Israel when she was senator of the most jewish city in the world, New York.
    ‘Anything was the fault of Arafat’.

    • Agree: Druid
  4. .
    America has lost its identity.Purpose.Every thing subsumed within that of Israel. America, once a powerful and proud nation is doomed to be out of existence as an entity.The law makers who applaud Israel for every thing as matter of expediency,not so much out of conviction, do not realise that once they stand up to Israel openly and defiantly they will get elected.Just like Jerrimy Corbyn has shown.Although not so openly, defied Israel and the MSM controled by its lobby.(Read Gilard Atzmon: Corbin and the Jews.June 11 2017).
    When can we expect the reptiles in the Congress to stand up for USA. Some body should convince these zombies that they can win even if they are patriotic.
    To know what the treacherous Jewish lobby is doing to America Read Ha’aretz June 22 or 23 “Questions of Survival”

    • Replies: @Druid
  5. @anonymous

    Single minded obsession. Yes. Monomania.Yes.Repetitive.Yes.Why not .It is not Iran firster. It is USA firster.An Israeli firster and traitor to his own nation can throw any number of epithets to discredit real patriots
    I am not an American.But I want America and Americans to be America firsters so tha t a super power can not be coerced and manipulated by a lobby and a small foriegn nation to the detriment of the whole world with its catastrophic implications.

  6. Thank you, Mr. Giraldi, for another penetrating examination of a political disease that has no name. In fact, this malady is not only undiagnosed but largely unrecognized. It is transparent. ‘Mainstream’. And deadly.

    The ruthless machinations of The Lobby are in a class by themselves. They occupy the very core of America’s ‘Deep State’. Ironically, the animating visions of glory, virtue and greatness that they epitomize border on racial supremacism.

  7. Wally says: • Website
    @anonymous

    Nonsense, try reading the content, hasbarist.

    However, these recent events are certainly a continuation of the control by “that shitty little country”.

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    How to Bring Down the Elephant in the Room

    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/how-to-bring-down-the-elephant-in-the-room/

    Israeli occupied territories
    When it comes to any topic that is known to be of special financial & political interests to supremacist Jews, and certainly there is no cash cow & political tool quite like the ‘holocau$t’ scam. To them truth is irrelevant.

    http://codoh.com/library/document/3276

    Gas Van Film and Photo Fraud
    German News Magazine and Simon Wiesenthal Center’s Museum Caught Faking Photo and Film Captions

    By Santiago Alvarez
    also see:
    recommended:

    Nazi Shrunken Heads
    A 24-minute free video about lies which justify war

    http://codoh.com/library/document/1528/

    and:
    Buchenwald: Legend and Reality

    http://codoh.com/library/document/180/?lang=en

    and:
    The Liberation of the Camps: Facts vs. Lies

    http://codoh.com/library/document/865/?lang=en

    • Replies: @anon
    , @tresmegistus
  8. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Just hit Control F “USS Liberty” to see if it’s mentioned here. Yep.

    Odds it’s mentioned in Phil’s next column?

  9. @anonymous

    I guess all the Senate/Congressional Bills moving through the Legislatore are mere fantasy ? Any pro-Israel intent is PURELY coincidental ?
    And, naturally, if one resists the influence of Israel one MUST BE an “avowed Iran-firster”. (And, equally, an antisemite: but should go without saying)
    Really, truly, absolutely, the emperor DOES have new clothes….!

  10. The source of Jewish power in the US is their brokerage of voter bias and federal entitlements between the federal government and the public.

    Most people don’t understand this concept because they don’t understand what are the key commodities in public elections.

    To break Jewish power would require either the vote disenfranchisement of federal protected class groups or the elimination of federal entitlements.

    I suggest that women and queers be removed from federal voter rolls. Women and queers are infamous for believing in their own victimhood the same way as Jews do, and they are infamous for frequently voting for themselves group identity based federal remedies. It’s also a fact that women and queer votes when combined are a super majority of votes, and as such control the outcome of all federal elections. Breaking both women and queers voting power will also break Jewish power.

    I suggest that the US constitution be modified to explicitly outlaw all protected class group federal entitlements. The modification would eliminate federal recognition and patronage for all protected class groups. The modification would end federal recognition and patronage of all so-called disadvantaged groups, underprivileged groups, oppressed groups, and underserved groups. The only federally recognized and entitled group would be US citizens. A constitutional change would explicitly outlaw all federal foreign aid and it would eliminate automatic anchor baby citizenship. Immigration law would be forever changed to favor intelligence, virtue, independence, and industriousness.

    9th and 10th amendments will be refined to more explicitly recognize the reserved powers of the people and states, and re-iterate the limits of federal power.

    Mere words in the constitution have never stopped Jews from abusing it, so I would add an extra constitutional safe guard.

    The extra provision would allow states at any time and for any reason to peaceably secede from the union without any federal retaliation. Jewish manipulators would need to temper their sedition with the ability of state secession codified into law.

    • Replies: @FLgeezer
    , @Sam J.
    , @Nastarana
  11. conatus says:

    Jewish interests wield disproportionate influence in the political process of the United States.
    From Wiki ‘Israel Lobby entry:”In 2006, 60% of the Democratic Party’s fundraising and 25% of that for the Republican Party’s fundraising came from Jewish-funded PACs. According to a Washington Post estimate, Democratic presidential candidates depend on Jewish sources for as much as 60% of money raised from private sources.[49]

    Politicians are addicted to power and don’t really care what ideology they espouse, just as long as they are doing the espousing.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/9228257/Like-baboons-our-elected-leaders-are-literally-addicted-to-power.html

    So it is not surprising that in an age where you are not allowed to openly discuss Israeli/Jewish disproportionate influence(upon pain of unemployment), that the gigantic knuckle-dragging USA would be Israel’s military bitch, courtesy of our obedient poodle media. Thus far we have obeyed and destabilized Iraq, Libya and Syria…all that is left is Iran.
    Watch out Persians…we be comin’ at ya!

  12. shalom says:

    A truly wonderful, honest piece, Philip. Astounding to read anywhere. Let us hope that it is widely disseminated and trolls like anonymous (#2 above) become disheartened about their muzzling of the truth and return to Israel to attack each other.

  13. @anonymous

    Did we read the same article? I understood from reading it that Giraldi’s main concern is for the USA being led into yet another unnecessary war, this time against Iran by the very same people who previously agitated for unnecessary wars with Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria….

    I suspect it is you who has the single minded obsession and it is not towards the best interests of the US and the American people.

  14. Sowhat says:

    No new revelations, here. It’s only disappointing that there aren’t more in the “mold” of Sanders and Paul. The rest, obviously, are owned. In a Corporatocracy, there is a large degree of apathy among the Proles. Kissinger said it best: “You control the money and you control the world.”
    I might add that, according to the Australian filmmaker, Trevor Loudon, the Arabs and Muslim countries have funded over 100 Congressional campaigns so the whole world knows U.S. politics is an easy mark…a soft target.

    • Replies: @chris
  15. geokat62 says:
    @anonymous

    Very repetitive . Same thing week after week . A single minded obsession , complete monomania.

    Thank god for Phil Giraldi. The only American brave enough to shed light on the machinations of The Lobby on a regular basis.

    More cannot be expected from an avowed Iran-firster ,

    Rich coming from the mouth of an Israel-firster. There is no greater America-firster than Phil Giraldi.

    though. Im sure the takkiyah trolls in the echo chamber will greedily gobble it up , and why not , they share the same obsession.

    I understand why you’re annoyed with most of the Unz Readers here who prefer to get their news from truth-telling contributors, like Phil Giraldi. You’d rather see them greedily gobbling up the hasbara continuously being pumped out by the LOW, the Lugenpresse of Weimerica, like the uninformed do.

  16. n230099 says:

    “…John F. Kennedy, who also was about to take steps to rein in Israel’s secret nuclear weapons program when he was assassinated, which was a lucky break for Israel…”

    Well, we all ‘dodged a bullet’ there though.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  17. veritas2 says:

    Thank you for the wakeup call, Philip!

    When the entire US media is controlled by the Israeli lobby, and the congress and media is becoming Israeli-firsters, it’s great to see a few patriots are still left with the intelligence work background to sound the alarms.

    Not only we appreciate your ever thoughtful posts, but many of us count on your tenacity and continual fight.

    American now feels a bit like pre-revaluationary days. At that time, we were controlled by the Brits, and now we’re controlled by the Israelis. Time for a new set of patriots to pen a new constitution and a new declaration of independence from foreign influence.

    Look at all the Democrat cosponsors of S722, https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/722/cosponsors

    Kamala Harris D-CA is one of them. Just before cosponsoring this bill, the entire media was making her into a superhero: standing up in the senate questioning the other side and being told by the old stodgy men to be quiet, etc. Some papers called her the hope of 2020….

    Then she cosponsored this bill. You can see this is all one big con game. The media is building up these hero figures and then uses them to pass these bills. It’s very hard to think your hero would be doing something wrong. This is a psy-ops game played on the public world wide. The moment you see an overnight hero, run the other way. Mostly like, it’s a puppet of the establishment.

    One last note, if you’re a Democrat and reading this. Look into Tulsi Gabard. There is a reason the media is making Kamala Harris into the next big Democratic hope. It’s because they’re worried about Tulsi Gabard and her message.

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @annamaria
  18. anarchyst says:

    Let’s not forget the forty or so members of congress who hold “dual citizenship” with that “certain little country” in the middle east, along with the thousands of influential dual citizenship “policy wonks” who are infecting MY government and influencing our “foreign policy” to the benefit of Israel.
    ALL dual citizenship must be prohibited and abolished. Those who hold dual citizenship and also hold ANY public office or government position must be summarily deported–no exceptions.
    Formal renunciation of foreign citizenship should also be required of ALL American citizens who hold “dual citizenship”.
    One cannot have split loyalties…

    • Replies: @annamaria
  19. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    How Much Influence Does the Israeli Government Have in American Politics?

    In the end, it is the American people who decide whether Israel is to be or not to be a vital American ally and friend. The people in their great wisdom understand it goes far beyond mere dollars and cents. Our destinies are inseparable.

    O Lord, Thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.

    A full 62% feel Israel has either too little or just the right amount of influence.

    https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/2015-Poll-Key-Findings-Final-1.pdf

    Overall, twice as many Americans say the Israeli government has too much influence
    (37%) than say too little influence (18%), while a plurality (44%) say it’s the right level.
    The story once again is more pronounced in the partisan views: Among Democrats,
    about half (49%) say Israel has too much influence, compared with 14% who say Israel
    has too little influence, and 36% who say it’s the right level; Among Republicans,
    slightly more people say that Israel has too much influence (25%) than say it has too
    little influence (22%) with a slight majority (52%) saying it’s the right level.

    Also see: http://www.gallup.com/poll/189626/americans-views-toward-israel-remain-firmly-positive.aspx

    Phil remains a dissenting voice; against God’s will?

    • Troll: L.K
  20. @Anon

    Funny how many of those attacking me are anonymous…the American public favors Israel because the media is so biased that they hear nothing but good about it. Opinion polls also show, however, that the public does not want any more new wars. Period. But our good friend Israel is about nothing but war. I wish people like anon with their nonsense about “God’s will” would put a sock in it. God has nothing to do with this. If you want to live in a theocracy, move to Israel.

    • Agree: SolontoCroesus
  21. anarchyst says:

    I constantly remind my Jewish and Israel supporting friends that “God is not a real estate agent”.
    It is curious to note that even atheist Jews insist that God “gave the land to the Jews”…

  22. DanCT says:

    It’s encouraging to read mostly tempered comments here. Another tactic of the trolls spoiling so many comment boards is baiting others to respond in kind to their degrading, jackass bantering and base language. Left with arguing on the merits, they’re as feckless as they’d be in a face-to-face confrontation on a ball field. We need to picture these trolls before degrading ourselves by taking the bait and responding to some little freak hiding behind his keyboard.

    • Replies: @chris
  23. Mr. Girardi, I do wonder what you are trying to accomplish lately. I’ve read your columns regularly because you’re a good writer, intelligent, knowledgeable and experienced. I share your opposition to Israel’s oppression and dispossession of Palestinians, to U.S. support of that policy, and to other AIPAC positions. But it seems to me you’ve lost proportion and direction.
    Do you really think that Israel carried out 9/11 and Kennedy’s assassination? Well, I won’t argue those points, since conspiracy theories are by definition impermeable — but really? You lost me there. I think you will lose a lot of other people too.
    Is Ileana Ros-Lehtinen really a Jew? How? According to some Orthodox Jewish rabbi’s rule of strict matrilineal descent that might make half the world Jewish? Ros-Lehtinin’s Jewish mother converted to Catholicism, and Ros-Lehtinen herself has been a Christian all her life. Say what you will about her politics, but the mistaken tagging of non-Jews as Jews in an article like this puts you in company that I think you’d rather not keep.
    And, of course, the USS Liberty. Yes, it is awful that Israel once attacked a U.S. Navy ship, killing and wounding U.S. sailors. And it is disturbing that some U.S. politicians apparently worked to minimize that tragedy. But it was fifty years ago! Since then, Israel has done many more awful things, and so has the U.S. We’ve killed British soldiers in our Gulf Wars. We’ve also killed millions of civilians in our wars of choice in Southeast Asia, Latin America and the Middle East, usually with little or no justification. We’re no saints, and ringing the USS Liberty bell every week won’t bring back its dead sailors or heal the wounded ones.
    More broadly, is AIPAC the only powerful special interest that corrupts our U.S. government at the expense of the American people? I’m sure you or I could name dozens. And it is really true that evil Israel leads virtuous America along by the nose, or do both countries pursue their perceived interests in ways that are often stupid and cruel?
    But if you want to focus almost exclusively on criticism of Israel and its U.S. lobby, be my guest. Such criticism, if accurate, is legitimate and even necessary. I would only suggest that you stick to facts you can prove, focus on the present, and even make suggestions about how to remedy problems you’ve identified if you can. Otherwise you risk reducing yourself to a cheerleader for people whose animus to Jews has overridden their common sense and decency. I think and hope you can do better than that.
    Please pardon my frankness, and thank you again for the many enjoyable and edifying columns that you have written over the years.

  24. Z-man says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    It’s clever how these trolls can subtly twist the post from being a fairly balanced ‘American interests first’ one to a pro Zionist one. Just add “Our destinies are inseparable”, and of course “Phil remains a dissenting voice; against God’s will?”
    What a clever troll.

    • Replies: @AmericaFirstNow
  25. Sherman says:

    So Israel assasinated Kennedy and took down the World Trade Center?

    Giraldi is really pandering to the screwballs today.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  26. Mr. Giraldi is right about organized Jewish power in the US. However, his obsession with Jews & Israel is not realistic. Of course US policy toward Arabs/Palestinians is not fair. But- this is not among crucial American problems: non-European immigration swamping, corrupt political elites, attack on free speech etc.

    I agree that “anti-Semitic snooping ambassador” is absurdity, but this is, basically- irrelevant. US will, sooner or later, collapse into a few ethnic states (probably, parts of Western Europe, too) because of decadence, idiocy & corruption of its working and middle classes. To blame this on Jews is simply absurd- Arabs, Chinese, Hindu Indians, all Africans … are different “others” & there can be no productive & successful society with so many conflicting groups. Jews or no Jews.

    Israel will, if this happens, collapse as a side effect of European & Euro-American decadence, but hey, that’s another story…

  27. @anarchyst

    It is even more curious that the asjekenazi jews, descendants of the Asiatic Khazars, non semites, they converted to judaism in the 9th century, drove the Palestinians, semites, descendants of semitic jews, from their land.

    Shlomo Sand, ‘The Invention of the Jewish People’, London, New York, 2009, 2010 (Tel Aviv, 2008, hebrew)

    Thomas L Thompson, ‘The mythic past, Biblical archaeology and the myth of Israel’, London 1999

  28. fitzGetty says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    … very true … there was a lot of gibbering about the Will of God in the cockpit of United 93 before it was crashed to earth …

  29. fitzGetty says:
    @Jim Daniel

    … do not dare to dismiss such an atrocity (not the only one ) simply because it was a few decades ago … Kriss Donald died over 10 years ago – we do not dismiss that because it was ”a long time ago’ …

  30. annamaria says:
    @anonymous

    What is repetitive is your pseudonym. As an Israel-firster you see any critique of Israel as a pro-Iranian activity. Has it ever downed on you that the US citizens are worried about the pernicious and parasitic influence of the Lobby? Actually, what we have been witnessing is the devouring of the US resources and US democracy by the ziocons, in a company of “native” traitors such as Cheney, Bush, Obama, and Clintons.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  31. Miro23 says:

    With 63 co-sponsors out of 100 senators the bill was certain to pass overwhelmingly, and it was indeed approved 98 to 2, with only Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders voting “no.”

    I wouldn’t overrate the bravery of Rand Paul.

    Videos of Netanyahu’s 2015 visit to Congress apparently showed a lack of enthusiasm in Paul’s clapping and standing ovationing which was quickly handed to Jennifer Rubin at the Washington Post to deal with.

    And all it took was a tweet:

    “Unenthused Rand Paul Lifelessly Applauds Bibi http://bit.ly/1Ef1wm8 OOps… almost like he has been faking his support for Israel until now.” (Jennifer Rubin, 4th March 2015)

    He quickly got back in line and said;

    “Israel is and has always been America’s friend and ally. I was pleased to hear Prime Minister Netanyahu’s speech to Congress today, and join him in calling for peace and standing together for our mutual interests. It is important to work together to prevent a nuclear Iran, and the spread of Radical Islam.”

    Where’s the difference between the US Congress and the old Soviet “Parliaments”or Saddam Hussein’s chamber of “Elected Representatives”?

  32. LondonBob says:

    Nice of them to tie Iran and Russia in with each other, I have increasingly seen the Russia nonsense are being driven by Zionist concerns, of course others have their own reasons. On the plus side Europe, and Germany in particular, seem to be heading our won way now. Trump gives them an excuse not to just do as they are told as they did under Obama.

    Rand Paul really does exist on his own on these matters.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  33. annamaria says:
    @anarchyst

    “One cannot have split loyalties…”

    These dual citizens never have to. The “forty or so members of congress” have their loyalty to Israel.

    • Agree: lavoisier
  34. A good example of out-sourcing you won’t hear discussed by talking heads in the MSM is AIPAC writing a large percentage of legislative bills introduced by members of congress.

  35. Z-man says:
    @annamaria

    ….“native” traitors such as Cheney, Bush, Obama, and Clintons.

    Hopefully we won’t have to add Donald to that list but unfortunately I think the Deep State and the Cabal might take Trump out before he can do any damage to the ‘staus quo’.

  36. anonHUN says:

    The US became a captive of Jewish interests, as they know they have to control the sole superpower on Earth to further their march to world domination., as their religion tells them.
    Look up Jeremiah 3:17

    At that time Jerusalem shall be called the throne of the LORD, and all nations shall gather to it, to the presence of the LORD in Jerusalem, and they shall no more stubbornly follow their own evil heart.

    Of course most Zionists now are not even believers in the LORD, they consider the collective of the Jewish tribe their LORD. So all the goyim will kneel before the LORD and will give all their gold to his chosen people (there is an OT quote about that somewhere too). They will cleanse the evil of antisemitism from their evil hearts and love Big Brother.

  37. Let’s talk about Russian influence but not Israel’s:

    http://america-hijacked.com/2016/08/29/lets-talk-about-russian-influence/

    Netanyahu even said that US is easily manipulated:

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2010/07/18/netanyahu-us-easily-manipulated

    Netanyahu bragged he has America wrapped around his finger:

    Netanyahu Israel’s 1st AIPAC agent Kushner influencing Trump (Kushner arranged the recent Saudi and Israel trips) gave 35,000 to AIPAC as well:

    Kushner brought other Jewish AIPAC Israel 1sters into the White House:

    http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/359120/jared-kushners-friend-picked-by-donald-trump-as-assistant/

  38. FLgeezer says:
    @Joe Franklin

    Great post Joe Franklin. You write in such a way as to persuade me that you are a descendent of Ben.

  39. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Daniel

    the USS Liberty. Yes, it is awful that Israel once attacked a U.S. Navy ship, killing and wounding U.S. sailors. And it is disturbing that some U.S. politicians apparently worked to minimize that tragedy. But it was fifty years ago!

    AGREED!
    Let bygones be bygones!

    Can we count on you to support Trump in his call to cut $3 million from holocaust museum funding? After all, it was over seventy years ago! (and fictitious to boot).

    Trump’s proposed $3M cut to Holocaust museum meets bipartisan
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/09/politics/trump-holocaust…museum-budget-cut/index.html
    Jun 9, 2017 – Sixty-four members of Congress asked President Trump not to cut $3 million from the budget of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum …

    Donald Trump Cuts Funds for D.C. Holocaust Museum – ATTN:

    https://www.attn.com/…/trump-sparks-bipartisan-criticism-over-holocaust-museum-cu…

    Jun 9, 2017 – In response to the news that President Trump’s budget would call for $3 million in funding cuts to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, …

    Trump Budget Cuts $3 Million From Holocaust Museum – The Forward
    forward.com/fast-forward/…/trump-budget-cuts-3-million-from-holocaust-museum/
    Jun 9, 2017 – Trump’s budget proposal cuts 5% from the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum’s budget. Members of Congress are vowing to fight against the …

    Trump faces backlash over $3M Holocaust Museum cuts | TheHill
    thehill.com/policy/…/337140-trump-faces-backlash-over-3m-holocaust-museum-cuts
    Jun 9, 2017 – A bipartisan group of 64 members of Congress is demanding a reversal on $3 million in funding cuts to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum …

    Trump cuts $3M from Holocaust museum, faces bipartisan backlash …
    http://www.jpost.com/…/Trump-cuts-3M-from-Holocaust-museum-faces-bipartisan-backlas…;
    Jun 9, 2017 – Trump proposes to cut around 5% of the museum’s total budget.

    Lawmakers are furious over Trump’s proposed cuts to Holocaust …
    nypost.com/…/lawmakers-are-furious-over-trumps-proposed-cuts-to-holocaust-museu…
    Jun 9, 2017 – … of lawmakers on Friday demanded that President Trump restore $3 million in funding he cut from the US Holocaust Memorial Museum in his.

    Trump’s proposed $3m cut to Holocaust museum sparks bipartisan …
    http://www.timesofisrael.com › Israel & the Region
    Jun 10, 2017 – WASHINGTON — A proposed budget cut by President Donald Trump of $3 million to the US Holocaust Memorial Museum has sparked a …

    Trump’s proposed budget will eliminate funding to museums, libraries …

    https://www.theverge.com/…/trump-nea-neh-budget-cuts-proposal-arts-funding-effect…

    Mar 16, 2017 – The proposed budget will cut programs that are some of the country’s best … Institute of Museum and Library Services director Dr. Kathryn K.

    Bipartisan backlash erupts after Trump proposes slashing $3 million …
    http://www.rawstory.com/…/bipartisan-backlash-erupts-after-trump-proposes-slashing-3-mil…;
    Jun 9, 2017 – … Trump proposes slashing $3 million from Holocaust Museum funds … Trump a letter this week decrying his proposed cuts to the museum, …

    Trump: Do Not Cut Budget for Holocaust Museum – ForceChange

    https://forcechange.com/…/president-trump-do-not-cut-budget-for-holocaust-museum…

    Target: Donald Trump, President of the United States. Goal: Demand President Trump restore funding cut from Holocaust Museum. President Trump’s proposed …

    • LOL: chris
    • Replies: @Jim Daniel
    , @Wally
    , @nsa
  40. @Z-man

    Poll: Most Americans Aren’t Zionists
    But Democratic and Republican Party Platforms Are:

    http://mailchi.mp/fa5252f34e7e/poll-70-of-americans-not-zionist-but-congress-is?e=e032b883cf

    CIA’s Mike Scheuer on Israel & Iraq war as terrorism motivation:

  41. @n230099

    At the time of his death, JFK was in the process of implementing three crucial decisions arrived at earlier in his presidency: pulling all US troops out of Vietnam, re-introducing United States-backed currency in the form of US Silver Certificates, and putting a stop to Israel’s development of nuclear weapons. Either one of which, alone was more than enough to guarantee his assassination at the hands of the Deep State.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  42. David says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Somewhat higher than the odds your next comment is interesting?

    • LOL: chris
  43. @Anonymous

    Well, if you really think the Holocaust was fictitious, there’s not much I can say to you on that issue. I can only hope you’re more sensible on other issues. On the other point, though, I’d be happy if all the Holocaust museums were closed and no new ones built. I’m not in favor of museums that commemorate the suffering of any one particular group and incidentally grant that group victim status that may be misused. I’d be happier to see a Museum of Man’s Inhumanity to Man that made us all a little more sober and humble.

    • Replies: @mp
  44. @anarchyst

    Funny how the realization never enters the thought process of simple-minded religious fanatics, that ancient documents supposedly bequeathing the land of Palestine to Jews in perpetuity, were, themselves written and compiled by Jews. It would be like me going to a man and telling him that he’s going to have to vacate his land because I found an ancient document written by my grandfather 5,000 times removed, that the land you’re living on belongs to me. Childish and laughable reasoning, but Jewish claims to the land of Palestine are based on exactly that, and nothing more.

  45. nebulafox says:
    @Carroll Price

    I have no idea about #2, so I won’t comment on that. But #1 and #3 are both Baby Boomer myths. When Ngo Dinh Diem was overthrown, a coup that was tacitly approved of by the Kennedy Administration, South Vietnam entered a cycle of coups and internecine warfare that would last until late 1967, when Thieu fully took power. I don’t think Kennedy would have bungled the operational character of the war (or the message to the American people) as badly as LBJ did, but there was absolutely no way we wouldn’t have had boots on the ground by 1965 after Diem’s death.

    And back in the 1960s, the Democrats were the strongly pro-Israel party, being home to a Holocaust generation Jewish vote that was far more attached to Israel than Jews are today. And though De Gaulle had already signaled his intention to move away from Israel in 1958, French companies would keep their contract obligations to Dimona. As Israel sticks to a policy of nuclear ambiguity anyway, short of military intervention, how could Kennedy (or any President) have practically stopped them from acquiring nuclear weapons, especially in the aftermath of the Six Day War when they probably had already reached nuclear latency?

  46. Talha says:

    Mr. Giraldi, good stuff! Thanks for keeping an eye on all these details going on in Congress/Senate. So hard to keep up with all of these bills being snuck through. You do a great service in informing the American electorate as to what their representatives are up to in selling their souls to a foreign power -
    actually multiple foreign powers.

    Peace.

  47. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    The same LUNATICS that lied the USA into the illegal war against Iraq and the illegal bombing and destruction of Libya are now pushing the US into destroying Syria for the glory of Apartheid Israel, then it will be on to Iran.

    http://www.911history.de/aaannxyz_ch11_en.html

    Will Americans ever wake up and realize that these ME wars are being fought for Israel or will it take mushroom clouds appearing before they wake up?

    Guess not, since Israel’s bitch, the Pentagon, just shot down a Syrian drone that looked ‘threatening.’ Some one is wanting to set off WW III, that way they can crash the imploding stock market and instead of putting the blame where it belongs, on those TBTF Wall Street (((banks))) they’ll blame those damned Rooskies for the crashed economy.

  48. Wally says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    “The Holocaust lie has been both the spiritual and financial wellspring of modern Jewish power, and for this reason it is clear why the Jewish Establishment holds onto this lie with a tenacity bordering on insanity.”

    “Jewish groups get up to 97% of grants from the Homeland Security”

    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/islamophobia-shmislamophobia-97-of-homeland-security-security-grants-go-to-jewish-orgs

    and:
    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    and:
    The Zionist attempt to control language.
    The Israel Project’s 2009 GLOBAL LANGUAGE DICTIONARY

    https://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/sf-israel-projects-2009-global-language-dictionary.pdf

    and:
    The commander behind the pro-Israel student troops on U.S. college campuses

    http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page//.premium-1.709014

    Israel tech site paying “interns” to covertly plant stories in social media

    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/israel-tech-site-paying-interns-covertly-plant-stories-social-media

    and:
    Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook

    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-students-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook

    Not to mention that every US taxpayers “loan” that ‘Israel’ receives has never been paid back. The Israeli Occupied Congress curiously “forgives” all these huge debts. As if it wasn’t assumed at the beginning.

    Let’s not mention the vast sums they receive from ‘Homeland Security to do much of the spying.

    “Jame Bamford of Wired subsequently reported that the NSA had hired secretive contractors with extensive ties to Israeli intelligence to establish 10 to 20 wiretapping rooms at key telecommunication points throughout the country.”
    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-impact-of-nsa-domestic-spying-2013-6#ixzz3NxPMujNo
    and:
    “Two Secretive Israeli Companies Reportedly Bugged The US Telecommunications Grid For The NSA”
    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/israelis-bugged-the-us-for-the-nsa-2013-6#ixzz3NxPnnUFg
    and:
    “IDF Unit 8200 Cyberwar Veterans Developed NSA Snooping Technology”
    Read more:http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2013/06/08/idf-unit-8200-cyberwar-veterans-developed-nsa-snooping-technology/

  49. annamaria says:
    @LondonBob

    The Israel-firsters want Eretz Israel by any means, preferably for the US expense. The ziocons’ rabid hatred towards the still-independent Russian federation explains the ongoing invented scandals of “Russian influence.” The same rabid hatred explains the death of Russian servicemen in Syria. But the facts about Israel’s support for ISIS have been dripping unstoppable, illustrating the dark and hateful soul of Jewish state: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-19/israel-has-been-secretly-funding-syrian-rebels-years
    The apartheid colonizer has lost any moral ground for its existence. The post-WWII Jewish dream has become a global nightmare: No daylight between the modern state of Israel and the Nazi Germany.

  50. @Sherman

    Maybe you missed the news release, but the only terrorist arrested on 9/11 happened to be Jews. With one group of Jews observed “documenting the event” on film, while a 2nd group were stopped and arrested while riding around NY City in a white van loaded with high explosives,. All of which was hushed-up and covered up by a Jewish controlled MSM, followed by the perpetrators being rapidly whisked out of the country and back to their homes in Israel. All mere coincidences, to be sure.

  51. mp says:
    @Jim Daniel

    Well, if you really think the Holocaust was fictitious…

    It was real in their minds. What more proof does anyone need?

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  52. Dr. X says:

    Women and queers are infamous for believing in their own victimhood the same way as Jews do, and they are infamous for frequently voting for themselves group identity based federal remedies.

    True — but don’t forget to include blacks in this equation.

    I suggest that the US constitution be modified to explicitly outlaw all protected class group federal entitlements.

    Unnecessary. The 14th Amendment was intended to accomplish this; it has been perverted to allow group entitlements by (((lawyers and judges))).

    Great post, though!

  53. If you have ever wondered why the United States officially still cannot say “Armenian Genocide”, along with asking the criminal, Turkey, you can ask its accomplice, Israel.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  54. @Jim Daniel

    ” Do you really think that Israel carried out 9/11 and Kennedy’s assassination? ”
    The number of events like this that benefited Israel, such as de murders of Palme and Anna Lyndh, the Hammarskjold accident, the Diana accident, the Hess suicide, the Barschel suicide, the Mölleman accident, the murder of Ferdinand Smit, the death of Arafat, is a bit to huge to believe in coincidence.
    In any separate case there is no conclusive evidence, but coincidence seems improbable, maybe Jahwe did interfere, for his Chosen People.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  55. @mp

    Nobody denies that jews were persecuted in WWII, and died in large numbers.
    The discussion is on how and why they died, and in what numbers.
    There is hardly any discussion about the number of German deaths, some ten million.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
    , @Incitatus
  56. utu says:

    Enacting legislations that gives Israel preferential treatment is nothing new.

    During the mid-1970′s the United States adopted two laws that seek to counteract the participation of U.S. citizens in other nation’s economic boycotts or embargoes. These “antiboycott” laws are the 1977 amendments to the Export Administration Act (EAA) and the Ribicoff Amendment to the 1976 Tax Reform Act (TRA). While these laws share a common purpose, there are distinctions in their administration.

  57. Exactly to the point. Not only Congress but also the White House is an Israeli occupied territory. The sycophants in Congress don’t serve the interest of the American people. They are puppets on a string of AIPAC, plus the Zionist controlled media. Relying further on the “advice” of Israel and Saudi Arabia will lead the US directly into a new war for the sake of the two rogue states in the Middle East: Israel and Saudi Arabia.

  58. Bismarck said that a treaty’s merits must be judged by comparing the strengths that one’s potential ally brings to the fight with the strengths of the enemies arrayed against that ally who then, by virtue of the treaty, become your enemies.

    Judged in this light, our support of Israel is a complete fail. Israel strengthens us not in the least while causing us to defend her against the depredations of the entire Middle-East Muslim world. We would be better served by abandoning Israel as an ally and courting the oil-bearing countries of the region.

  59. bjondo says:

    Top pic of Benyammerin Nuthinyahoo
    shows he has a very bad case of asskissing dandruff.
    Head and Shoulders mixed with kerosene should help
    The Head Squat.

  60. @anonymous

    Hey troll, single minded, Iran-firsts? You must be in a Zion nightmare. We have someone who can tell it as it is.
    In all history of empires/super powers, there has never been such a grip by such a vermin parasite as our nation is in now. It’s beyond shame that we have become such an impotent nation, we might as well have Natanyahu and the Zionists Knesset rule this nation directly. Because we surely are ruled by someone else. We are just too dumb to realize it. We think we’re making our own decision when we go to the ballot box. What a joke!!!
    One of the countries I admired the most was my Fatherland , when the the parasite and its host tried to stop Kurt Waldheim from getting elected. He was not expected to win, but on hearing the dog calls from these two, the Austrians did what was right and elected Waldheim.
    We thought, having been fooled again, Trump was our Waldheim and we were Austrians. Trump and his cabal family got the better of us.
    I doubt we’ll get out of this bondage, unless we self destruct. I think that’s where we’re being led.
    PS: PG, you’re right about the Colbert, Stone episode, it has disappeared…,,,completely, I record all his episodes and would watch them at other times. Surprisingly, this isn’t on. Wow, how can you defeat this kind of power?

  61. @Marshall Moushigian

    A fairy tale, in my opinion, the Armenian genocide.
    And at the time Turkey did not exist.

    ‘The Armenians in the Late Ottoman Period’, edited Türkkaya Atatöv, Ankara, 2002.
    Henry Morgenthau, ‘Ambassador Morgenthau’s Story’, New York, 1918
    Heath W. Lowry, ‘The story behind Ambassador Morgenthau’s Story’, Istanbul 1990

  62. Sam Shama says:

    [ He then went to see Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and shouted at him for being a liar and opposed to peace based on what Netanyahu had told him. That is what passes for even-handed in the U.S. government, no matter who is]

    While the “shouted at him” phrase is an exaggeration – Trump was apparently attempting to speak above the general noise – it is true that Abbas wants to have little to do with anything controversial at this point in his tenure. Such as partner a peace plan. As far as lack of even-handedness on the part of the U.S. government, can we name a few which are even-handed? I know, I know……

  63. Moi says:

    Top-notch article and one long overdue. But permit me one small edit: Mr. Giraldi states, “The animus against Iran comes directly from Israel and from the Saudi Arabians, who have managed to sell their version of developments in their part of the world through a completely acquiescent and heavily Jewish influenced western media.”

    He errs in calling it “Jewish influenced western media.” It would be more accurate to say it is Jewish controlled western media.

  64. nickels says:

    The Orthodox Christian church teaches that the Antichrist will head a world government out of Israel.
    But, you know, we’re just a bunch of religious wacko’s, right?

    • Replies: @Whoriskey
  65. @Philip Giraldi

    Disgusted “liberal”. Am I even a “liberal” anymore? I loathe the I-word and the J-word now with a purple passion. If I see an article from Wapo or NYT or any of the other “msm”, I don’t read it. I stopped watching ANY tv, and exclusively read those who didn’t lie about Iraq 2003. What the hell AM I? I despise Republicans, but the Dems didn’t oppose their wars. Now I despise the Dems, and the right-wingnuts are starting to make sense. Is this cognitive dissonance? Bizzaro-world? I am one CONFUSED puppy.

    Thank you PG

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @lavoisier
  66. chris says:

    Welcome to the ‘Pax’ Israeliana !

    But don’t look for the 1000 years of peace to break out any time soon, it’s strictly a small-time operation run by keeping tabs on everyone, terrorizing deserters, and playing everyone against each other. To be fair, it’s the only thing they know; it’s all Bugsy Siegel caliber.

    If it’s any consolation, the masters of manipulation will enjoy the fruits of their handiwork by living in the paranoid, hysterical, bankrupt hell they have created for themselves and for the rest of us.

    The scale may be new; the inevitable downward course cannot but be the same as the last time, and all the times before that.

  67. nsa says:
    @Anonymous

    Contact your U.S. Knessetman in Wash DC immediately and insist the Holocaust Museum budget cuts be restored……the funds are desparately needed for the proposed new Ilse Koch wing featuring a complete collection of her Bauhaus lampshades and fragrant soap bars.

  68. chris says:
    @Sowhat

    …Arabs and Muslim countries have funded over 100 Congressional campaigns so the whole world knows U.S. politics is an easy mark…a soft target.

    Yeah, but as with the KSA, you’ll notice that the policies pursued by the purchased politicians will not deviate one iota from the party lines in matters of the ME.

  69. chris says:
    @DanCT

    It’s encouraging to read mostly tempered comments here.

    You’re too kind, no, we have the other kind also; just wait until it’s morning in Israel and Sam, and Sherm, and iffn get online.

    • LOL: geokat62
  70. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Arafat ???
    LoL
    The guy was a fat slob with a disgusting lifestyle , tons of stress and alleged to have full blown AIDS . He made it to 75 , how long did you expect him to live ? Ion Pacepa claimed Arafat was a rabid homosexual and pederast.

  71. chris says:
    @Jim Daniel

    I share your opposition to Israel’s oppression and dispossession of Palestinians

    I think, in this one, Phil is talking about Israel’s oppression and dispossession of Americans, a subject that may need even more attention then the first, this time.

    … ringing the USS Liberty bell every week won’t bring back its dead sailors or heal the wounded ones.

    That’s a very apt imagery about ringing the the bell, in honor and respect though, which is what Phil is doing, for the victims, whose own country disavowed and tried to gag them out of sheer cowardice.

    Do you really think that Israel carried out 9/11 and Kennedy’s assassination?

    Obviously, Phil was just, tongue-in-cheek, being a little cynical here otherwise he would have gone into a lot more detail, you don’t think he’d just throw an unproven assertion like that, do you?

    .

    .. is AIPAC the only powerful special interest that corrupts our U.S. government at the expense of the American people?

    I don’t recall the AARP, Pharma and Agriculture lobbies trying to get us into wars around the world.

    Ros-Lehtinen herself has been a Christian all her life.

    I’ve never heard of this woman, but are you a troll or something, you’ve never heard of people having allegiance to their tribe, irrespective of their religion? (Seriously, I know people like that)

    We’ve also killed millions of civilians in our wars of choice in Southeast Asia, Latin America and the Middle East, usually with little or no justification.

    Yes, that was a point in Phil’s article from last week also. The problem this week, in case you’ve missed the point in the article, is the fact that, exactly Aipac is behind this sanctions bill designed to primarily tie Trump’s hands in negotiating a deescalation of tensions with Russia, which is an important reason for the support he received to win the election last year. By doing that, they’re putting us on a collision course with Russia, which will be used by subversive elements in the military to create further provocations and lead us on the path to war.

    Even if you, yourself refuse to see it this way, can you see why others might see things differently ?

    • Replies: @Jim Daniel
  72. I stopped reading when Giraldi suggested that the Jews killed Kennedy in order to preserve their A-bomb program. Does he tell us that they didn’t show up for work on 9/11, too? That seemed to be coming.

    Jews are intelligent, successful and no doubt exercise more political and other influence than their small numbers would suggest. They are also somewhat alienated from their co-religionists in Israel whose politics are not as liberal as theirs. But that’s in the real world. Giraldi, and a lot of the posters on this thread, are somewhere off in outer space. I actually might be interested in a critical perspective on what the pro-Israeli congress critters are up to, but reading paragraph after paragraph of pure craziness to get to that information is not a price I am willing to pay.

  73. @Anon

    In old Europe, the Jews pushed their influence thru usury, hoarding, and “decadent culture infusion to the Goyim“, then slowly but surely buy into “news” , industry, influencing the Goyim masses in a slow but steady transformation into decadence , while keeping themselves statically shielded in the ghettoes . This behavior is one the greatest of sins according to the Torah, unless done to Goyim.
    When hard times hit Europeans, the jooooeis harvested. By the end of 19th century most (if not all) newspapers in Germany were owned by the tribe, most rental properties in big cities, stores,….a population of 1% already controlled most financial, information, and social lives of about 53 million indigenous population. They were reaching for the ultimate prize, full control of the government and its policies but………….They’ve found an even better prize, one they couldn’t imagine or dream of. The most powerful, but no brain (that’s how a small and weak human being can tame and enslave the largest land animal on earth, the elephant), the richest and all of its allies into proudly taking orders and fulfill whatever task the tribe wants accomplished!!!
    So our only dependable friendship and unbroken bond, you’re talking about is similar to those enslaved dolphins and orcas in theme parks or circuses. We can’t live our own natural lives and if we turn on the circus master we wouldn’t know how to survive.
    Well, we’re not theme park animals (this has been your view of us), I suggest you turn it down and live as equals otherwise you’ll lead this world to a catastrophic end. Your greed can’t be quenched, go on a diet of soul searching, maybe you’ll find far more satisfaction than hoarding and stealing and lies and deceit and manipulation…..I can’t list all to do lists, to be a decent human being, have some EMPATHY

  74. The Lobby continues to strengthen their stranglehold on the U.S. government. Little is mentioned about Ossoff being Jewish in the special election in Georgia or that only 14% of his $23.6 million came from Georgia (most came from New York and California). 56% of Handel’s campaign funds of $4.5 million came from Georgia.

    This funding profile is similar to Rahm Emanuel’s reelection campaign when most of his funds also came from California and New York. While AIPAC itself isn’t the primary source of funding politicians, their primary duty is to notify the tens of thousands of their members and the members of 51 sub-organizations of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations who they should be contributing to.

    • Replies: @chris
    , @Hibernian
    , @Z-man
  75. FLgeezer says:
    @Gandydancer

    >is not a price I am willing to pay.

    Please reconsider Gandy. We don’t know how this blog will survive without you. LOL!

  76. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Gandydancer

    I stopped reading when Giraldi suggested that the Jews killed Kennedy in order to preserve their A-bomb program.

    But you don’t quibble with the allusion to Israelis killing JFK because he tried to force their foreign agents to register.

    Pretty powerful lesson: no subsequent president or Congress or Justice Department has been able to compel Israeli agents to comply with those rules of the United States.

    But but but Russia is threatening US democracy!

  77. anonyymi says:

    COUNTERATTACK!

    Candidates opposing this “congressmen” and “senators” should reveal about them that they are Israel-firsters and consequently pro-war. Also reveal where their money is coming from and what their voting record is.

    Their strength could easily be turned into their weakness.

    You just need one brave man to start doing it, and…

  78. @jilles dykstra

    In addition to the absence of forensic evidence showing large numbers of Europeans dying in confined areas over a short period of time, holohoax researchers employing published pre and post-war census figures, estimate that during WW 2 years (1939-1945) not more than 300,000 Jews (probably closer to 200,000) died from of causes, including accidents and old age. The mythical 6 million figure drummed into the heads of every school child and adult from birth to death, dates back to the late 1800s and early 1900s, with preserved newspapers from the era containing articles relating to 6 million European Jews perishing in holocaust of various descriptions.

    • Replies: @Mark Green
  79. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    Following 911 Israeli agents embassy staff and military personnel were caught while trying to bomb Mexican Parliament. But the news initially reported by Mexican media in USA was de -mainstreamed

    The news outlet was forced to shut down

  80. aandrews says:

    “Don’t look for the exchange with Colbert on YouTube. CBS deleted it from its broadcast and website….”

    *That* is pretty amazing. Especially if everything they broadcast is typically archived at their website and Youtube. Astounding. What do they think people will conclude (other than the obvious). It was seen.

  81. @Gandydancer

    Jack Ruby is Jacob Leonard Rubinstein, if his name was Osama bin Laden we would have said Muslims were behind and Osama would naturally be a terrorist. Israel, in the circumstances of the time should have been a suspect and rightfully investigated, Rubinstein should have raised the flag by default. 9/11 is the same way with more proof that Israel and goyim poodles at home were the only ones to gain out of the carnage that followed and continues today, and with Israeli “students” cheering on opposite side as the Twin Towers were hit by planes. After announced on Fox news once, it disappeared just like Oliver Stone’s Colbert show. Mind you this is the age of youtube. Larry Silverstein rings a bell? Insurance money? Jewish headquarter and hardly any Jewish casualty?

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  82. Incitatus says:
    @Jim Daniel

    Well done Jim Daniel!

    Hope Giraldi has the courtesy to answer.

  83. aandrews says:

    Re Stone-Colbert “Late Night” interview. Well, no wonder. Evidently this was the tenor of the conversation: (Commentary) Stephen Colbert and his audience unfairly mock Oliver Stone

  84. @chris

    I think Mr. Girardi has taken 9/11-Israel conspiracy theories seriously in previous articles, if memory serves me.
    I’m somewhat familiar with Ms. Ros-Lehtinen’s career, and I think if she has a tribe, it’s Cuban-American.
    On the last point, I’m opposed to people trying to get us into useless military or diplomatic conflicts, whether they be motivated by Israel’s perceived interest, or Cuba’s, or by defense contractors or Big Oil, or by spreading democracy or realpolitik force projection, or by boosting military budgets and promotions, or plain old bloodlust, or whatever. All those factors and more play a part, and if you can compare and estimate their relative influence, you’re smarter than I.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @geokat62
    , @chris
    , @anon
    , @anon
  85. @Carroll Price

    The first newspaper on this list to carry the early fairy tale about ‘six million Jews’ was none other than the NY SUN, owned by Joseph Pulitzer.

    Like so many newspaper owners (then and now) Pulitzer was Jewish. The politicized ‘Pulitzer Prize’ is named after Joseph Pulitzer.

  86. Art says:
    @Jim Daniel

    More broadly, is AIPAC the only powerful special interest that corrupts our U.S. government at the expense of the American people?

    Oh my – that is pure Hasbara Central boilerplate. This is a standard lying tactic of the Jew.

    “We did a little bad but we are not the worst – the cannibals are below us – so shut up Gentiles!”

    Peace — Art

    p.s. The great evil of 9/11 is on AIPAC et al – scratch 9/11 and it bleeds Jew.

    p.s. The Biggest Jew – Netanyahu said that “9/11 was good for Israel”

    p.s. Our Congress cheered him 29 time – every American should hate that.

    If someone abuses something you love – something that contributes to your wellbeing – something that is part of your identity – and they do this today, and yesterday, and for sure tomorrow – when is it OK to hate them?

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  87. Incitatus says:
    @jilles dykstra

    “Nobody denies that jews were persecuted in WWII, and died in large numbers.
    The discussion is on how and why they died, and in what numbers.”

    By “persecuted” do you mean murdered jilles? Come right out and say it. Families mustered in killing fields, striped, robbed and shot? Starved to death? Worked to death? Is that what you mean by “persecuted”?

    “There is hardly any discussion about the number of German deaths, some ten million.

    Official estimates are less than 8 million. Still a heavy price. Your point jilles? There should be “discussion about the number of German deaths”? Why, pray tell? In the war Germany launched that killed 50+ million?

    Give us a hint.

    • Replies: @Art
  88. @anonymous

    I am glad you are showing us all how salty you are. What should this guy write about instead? The Jews are at war with Europe and the US. In fact the Jews are taking over the US the way they took over Russia 100 years ago.

    The US can’t be invaded from the outside but it sure as heck can be taken over from within. Judging from your post style, you are the same type from Sharia Blue who is trying to change the tone on the chans and reddit. You are paid to be here, we are not.

  89. Art says:
    @Jim Daniel

    I’m somewhat familiar with Ms. Ros-Lehtinen’s career, and I think if she has a tribe, it’s Cuban-American.

    Really – she is 100% BEHIND Jew interests – and she is very adamant about it – that is the truth.

    You are a liar – you tell half-truths that are effective lies. In sentence after sentence, you minimize Jew involvement in America’s affairs.

    This marks you as an evil person – that is against America’s fundamental interests.

    Every day America is diminished a little bit more by people like you – shame – shame.

    Peace — Art

    • Replies: @chris
  90. bjondo says:

    Regarding Iran, the bill mandates that “Not later than 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and every 2 years thereafter, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of the Treasury, and the Director of National Intelligence shall jointly develop and submit to the appropriate congressional committees a strategy for deterring conventional and asymmetric Iranian activities and threats that directly threaten the United States and key allies in the Middle East, North Africa, and beyond.”

    And

    to the appropriate congressional committees
    send instructions how to wipe rear.
    Same instructions
    every 2 yrs
    from each agency
    to appropriate committees.

    • LOL: truthtellerAryan
  91. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    Families mustered in killing fields, striped, robbed and shot? Starved to death? Worked to death? Is that what you mean by “persecuted”?

    You mean like your proxies ISIS, are doing in Syria and Iraq.

    Zionists and Wahabis are brothers in blood.

    They both have the US and Russia on a path to war – shame shame on all of them – they deserve hate.

    Who that is good, does not fear a war – and who wants a war – it is Jews and Saudis – it is as plain as day.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. My oh my – the “six Million Lie” is the Jew claim to legitimacy – what a sad inferior people.

  92. RobinG says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    You are not alone!

    Try this on for size: [Alt-left and Alt-right unite against Deep State.]

    Wiki Politiki with Steve Bhaerman and guest Robert David Steele of #unrig

    • Replies: @Pissedoffalese
  93. geokat62 says:
    @Jim Daniel

    I’m somewhat familiar with Ms. Ros-Lehtinen’s career, and I think if she has a tribe, it’s Cuban-American.

    I love the use of the words “somewhat” and “I think”… as they conveniently permit an escape clause, if someone should do the necessary legwork and call you out on it:

    Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, champion of Israel and Holocaust survivors, to retire from Congress

    Ros-Lehtinen, a Cuba native of Jewish descent, took a special interest in Israel during her career. The stringent Iran sanctions she authored in 2006 were blocked by congressional procedure, but were the template for the sanctions Congress approved in 2010 that helped force Iran to the negotiating table to limit its nuclear program…

    “From the moment I arrived in Congress, Ileana has been a friend and a partner,” said Rep. Ted Deutch, D-Fla., who is the top Democrat on the House Middle East subcommittee, which is currently chaired by Ros-Lehtinen. “We have worked together countless times from championing equality to strengthening the U.S.-Israel relationship.”

    Ros-Lehtinen’s championing of her favored causes has not abated. On Sunday, the day she announced her retirement, she joined Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, in blasting UNESCO, the United Nations cultural arm, for advancing another resolution targeting Israel. Last week, she was a leader in introducing a Republican-backed bill that would condition U.S. funding of the United Nations on its treatment of Israel.

    She told the Herald that a continued focus would be advocacy for Holocaust survivors. Earlier this year, she reintroduced a bill that would expand the rights of Holocaust survivors to sue insurers that did not make good on Holocaust-era policies.

    http://www.jta.org/2017/05/01/news-opinion/politics/ros-lehtinen-champion-of-israel-holocaust-survivors-to-retire-from-congress

    A little more background info on IRL’s “Cuban” tribal roots:

    Ros-Lehtinen’s maternal grandparents were Sephardic Jews, originally from the Ottoman Empire, who had been active in Cuba’s Jewish community. Her maternal grandfather left the city of Kırklareli for Cuba in 1913, fleeing the devastation and economic collapse caused by the First Balkan War. Her mother later converted to Catholicism to marry her father.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ileana_Ros-Lehtinen

    I believe it was Incitatus who praised your efforts by stating “Well done Jim Daniel!”

    Well done, indeed!

    • Agree: chris
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Incitatus
  94. Art says:
    @Gandydancer

    I actually might be interested in a critical perspective on what the pro-Israeli congress critters are up to, but reading paragraph after paragraph of pure craziness to get to that information is not a price I am willing to pay.

    Really – your wimpy sentence defines you.

    Who that is concerned about our country, cannot handle this article – you should be outraged by 29 ovations given to the war criminal Netanyahu by our congress. That picture should engender hate in your heart.

    Netanyahu sent illegal nuke parts to Israel from America. No one in the government or media will investigate that – WHY? When things like this go on should you not fear for your country

    Israel does not even acknowledge it has nukes. Do you back that?

    Are you a serious American – or just another hasbara hack?

    Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @anarchyst
  95. Berachah says: • Website

    Israel is the NWO which is the 3rd Beast prophesied by Daniel. Reject Israel and your economy is brought to ruins by zionists bankers. Simple fact.

  96. Sam J. says:

    “… John F. Kennedy, who also was about to take steps to rein in Israel’s secret nuclear weapons program when he was assassinated, which was a lucky break for Israel…”

    Luck…maybe not.

    0:02 / 1:11
    Jack Ruby about the conspiracy to kill JFK

  97. Sam J. says:
    @Joe Franklin

    “…The source of Jewish power in the US is their brokerage of voter bias and federal entitlements between the federal government and the public…”

    There may be a little bit of that but it’s not the main reason. The main reasons are:
    1. They own practically all media in the US.
    2. They own the FED providing almost limitless cash to their preferred people.
    3. They’re blackmailing huge numbers of our Representatives with little Boys and little Girls.
    4. They’ll kill you if they don’t get their way.

    So if you run against them in the primary you will have extremely well funded opponents and the press will savage you. If that doesn’t work they will try to redistrict you out of a job. If that doesn’t work they will frame or kill you like they did to Ohio Congressman James Traficant.

  98. Sam J. says:
    @Anon

    “…In the end, it is the American people who decide whether Israel is to be or not to be a vital American ally and friend…”

    To make informed decisions you have to have information. The American people don’t have that. So they really haven’t made a decision at all. They’ve been tricked into doing things that are covered up in lies.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  99. @anonymous

    The obsession seems to be yours. Israel First American interests second.

    when in doubt about who rules you, first point to whom you can’t criticize.

  100. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @geokat62

    Good leg work. You proved she is catholic. Thanks.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  101. chris says:
    @Art

    Yeah, okay, thanks Art; with yours and geo’s comment it’s kind of obvious he’s a troll

  102. @RobinG

    Thank you, RobinG!

    McKinney has always been a favorite, as is Kucinich, Ron Paul. They don’t seem to change, do they, where everything else has just turned upside-down. Dems shouting out for the integrity of the CIA and FBI????

    Russia, Russia, Russia, oh how the Left forgets.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  103. chris says:
    @Chet Roman

    Very interesting. point!

  104. @Sam J.

    I indeed once heard a USA politician say ‘we do not love them, w’re afraid of them’.
    What I cannot understand is why jews want to live on the top of a vulcano.
    The jewish identity is ‘eternal innocent victim’, does this drive them to try to control the world ?
    I am reading
    Léon Poliakov, ‘Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs’, 1951, 1974, Paris.
    It is a description of persecution of jews in Europe during WWII, the book makes one thing very clear: there was little love for jews, especially in E Europe, the asjkenazi jews.
    Ukranians and Lithuanians seem to have hated jews, far more than most Germans.
    Poles also seem to have hated them:
    Jan T. Gross, ‘Neighbours, The Destruction of the Jewish Community in Jedwabne, Poland, 1941’, 2003, London
    In W Europe, sephardic jews, it was quite different.
    Israel is controlled by asjkenazi jews, in Israel sephardic jews are second rate citizens.
    Many, after coming to Israel from Arabic countries, left Israel after some time, mostly for the USA.
    Google ‘Giladi’ to find the story of one of them.
    Even in the USA sephardic jews are quite different from asjkenazi jews, as one can see in publications by non asjkenazi jews in the USA.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    , @anarchyst
    , @Sam J.
  105. chris says:
    @Gandydancer

    … but reading paragraph after paragraph of pure craziness to get to that information is not a price I am willing to pay

    Don’t let the doorknob hit you in the butt!

  106. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Pissedoffalese

    Thoughtful comment.

    The Democrats are every bit as much on board with the wars and the destruction of the working class as are the Republicans.

    Where are the respectable liberals in this country?

    I despise Democrats as you despise Republicans.

    Now I despise them both. I have little loyalty for my government and do not trust anything that they do.

    Our Republic is on life support.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  107. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Sam J.

    The American people are responsible even if they are being manipulated by the MSM.

    Too many Americans are woefully ignorant about the world, particularly about the extent that Jewish interests have manipulated so many aspects of our government and our culture. If you even bring this issue up you are immediately branded a hater and your arguments dismissed.

    In short, many Americans are happy to drink the kool aid.

    It is a much deeper problem than simply our American Pravda.

    Many of us have chosen to be blind, refusing to even consider the possibility that we are being manipulated, and in the process fail as responsible citizens.

    One can choose to be red pilled today. This is ultimately the choice to go through life with an open mind and to have a high regard for reality, however uncomfortable that reality may be.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
    , @lavoisier
  108. lavoisier says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra

    I also find it interesting that Eastern European countries are resisting the EU mandate to accept the refugees foolishly brought in by Merkel. Are they more red pilled regarding the Muslims or the Jews?

    Western Europeans seem totally incapable of defending their nations from the assaults perpetrated on them by their leaders in thrall to the globalist Zionist agenda.

    Perhaps the Eastern Europeans know far more about these kinds of things than we do?

    It sure seems that way.

  109. geokat62 says:
    @anon

    Good leg work. You proved she is catholic. Thanks.

    Oh, you must be referring to this statement:

    Her mother later converted to Catholicism to marry her father.

    Quick question, perhaps you can help me out, as I’m not familiar with the rules, but can Marranos or Conversos (or their children) make Aliyah to the Jewish State?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  110. geokat62 says:
    @geokat62

    And here’s a little more legwork:

    [Enrique] Ros was married for 65 years to Amanda Adato, the Cuban-born daughter of Jewish immigrants from Turkey who converted to Catholicism to marry Ros, but taught their two children to be proud of their Jewish heritage.

    Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article1950133.html#storylink=cpy

    I guess you were right: she is as Catholic as they come!

    • LOL: L.K
  111. Sam Shama says:
    @Art

    That picture should engender hate in your heart.

    Where is the ascetic philosopher, the spiritual Christian, the one who never fails to remind us that he harbours no hatred in his heart?

    What have you done to him?

    Peace, Love and Harmony – Sam

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Art
  112. (((Bb))) says:

    The nations that people (by the millions) are trying desperately to escape are nations with no Jews, and that have hostility to Israel and to Jews.

    The nations that people (by the millions) are desperately trying to enter are nations with established Jewish populations, and that have warmth or even-handedness to Israel and to Jews.

    People from low performing nations, as well as low performing people from high performing nations, very often need a big, big story to accommodate their intense emotions of failure and humiliation.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Sam J.
  113. bjondo says:

    To understand Jew
    read Torah
    evil

  114. iffen says:
    @Jim Daniel

    Mr. Girardi, I do wonder what you are trying to accomplish lately. I’ve read your columns regularly because you’re a good writer, intelligent, knowledgeable and experienced.

    Take a look at his latest article in TAC for proof of this assessment.

    Jekyll and Hyde.

  115. annamaria says:
    @Sam J.

    “1. They own practically all media in the US.
    2. They own the FED providing almost limitless cash to their preferred people.
    3. They’re blackmailing huge numbers of our Representatives with little Boys and little Girls.
    4. They’ll kill you if they don’t get their way.”

    And this has been leading the States – and Israel along with the States – to the demise. The US governing institutions have lost their ability to respond to reality and instead they respond to personal desires only. Hence the approaching danger of a hot war.

    • Replies: @FLgeezer
  116. annamaria says:
    @(((Bb)))

    “The nations that people (by the millions) are trying desperately to escape are nations with no Jews, and that have hostility to Israel and to Jews.”

    Have you ever heard about the USSR and its genesis? – If not, google “Bolshevik Revolution.” You are for a surprise of your life.

  117. anarchyst says:
    @truthtellerAryan

    A jewish message service (Odigo) warned jews to “stay home” on 9-11 hours before the controlled demolition…
    Sorta tells you something…

    • Replies: @truthtellerAryan
    , @Druid
  118. anarchyst says:
    @jilles dykstra

    You are correct. My friends and associates who lived in Eastern Europe under the communist yoke stated that almost all of the communist party leaders and commissars were jews. During WW2, jews were “outed” to the Germans by those non-jewish victims living under communism. Jews were hated by the non-jewish population as the best of everything was reserved for themselves while the non-jewish population barely survived on “scraps from the jew’s table”.
    In fact, when communism was being implemented, jewish synagogues were untouched while Christian and Orthodox churches were “repurposed” as stables, warehouses, etc.
    My associates have also stated that the Germans were polite to a fault. They politely requested that the townspeople remain indoors while troop movements were taking place.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  119. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    Hate the sin not the sinner.

    Sins and thoughts have no connection to any particular human brain and gob of emotions. They are like leaves in a swirling fall wind, unconnected to anything more substantial than themselves. We can find little piles against the windbreaks just like we find little piles of hate thoughts piled up in comment sections with no connection to anyone in particular.

  120. anarchyst says:
    @Art

    Let’s not forget the “Samson option” in which Israel promises to nuke a European or American city if its interests are threatened.
    This threat is real, and must be taken seriously.
    There are those that state that Israel does not have a “delivery system” to complete the “Samson option”.
    Nothing could be further from the truth.
    Israel cannot (and will not) account for its nukes, as most of them are outside of Israel proper, and are already pre-positioned in major population centers throughout the world.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  121. KenH says:

    The memory hole dept. did a good job of burying Oliver Stone’s comments since I hadn’t heard of them until reading Phil’s article. And then a commenter noted that Israel’s U.S. agents, like (((Jennifer Rubin))) are monitoring the facial expressions and body language of Congressman while Bibi speaks to the chamber. This is beyond Orwellian.

    At some point in the near future I’m expecting the Jewish lobby to successfully get the federal government to legally proscribe criticizing Jews, Israel or questioning details of their holocaust claims.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  122. Sam Shama says:

    Don’t look for the exchange with Colbert on YouTube. CBS deleted it from its broadcast and website, demonstrating once again that the “I” word cannot be disparaged on national television.

    Is this the one?

    http://www.cbs.com/shows/the-late-show-with-stephen-colbert/video/tRfgCC966_LEXj4URvqwisoUugDosea4/oliver-stone-spent-two-years-interviewing-vladimir-putin/

    If so, you’ll need to issue a retraction of your statement and all the other insinuations you derived from it. If it is not the video, I issue my apologies in advance.

    ……he was assassinated, which was a lucky break for Israel, particularly as Kennedy was replaced by the passionate Zionist Lyndon Baines Johnson.

    With this slander which others commented on earlier, it does deserve repeating emphatically, you’ve submerged yourself in conspiracies for reasons which appear to be occult Jew hatred impossible to contain just under the surface. It beggars belief that statement was written tongue in cheek; excessive cheek, tongue impossible to pry unstuck. An attempt at humour? Poor taste, really.

    The Israelis know what is going on all the time.

    Pure nonsense at some level. At another level, it is well-known we know more about our allies than their respective governments do and vice versa.

    ……but it also included an astonishingly large number of Democrats who describe themselves as progressive, including Corey Booker and Kamila Harris,

    So they are progressives, what of it? You fail to understand most Americans view Iranians as a nation of people which took hostage American diplomats. These congressmen are doing no more than what their constituents want.

    The readership of UR, a collection of a few excellent thinkers, overwhelmed by a larger group of lunatics, do not reflect the sentiment of the vast majority. They could not care what you or I think of Iranians. They remember Nov 1979.

    And there’s still more. Bill HR 672 Combating European Anti-Semitism Act of 2017 was passed unanimously by the House of Representatives on June 14th.

    Antisemitism is a serious matter and it is well for it to bear scrutiny in some cases where through their actions overzealous elements[some in the judiciary] trivialise its intent. But you seem to favour an environment where mere vigilance through a bill deserves defeat. Unanimously.

    President Donald Trump traveled to the Middle East claiming to be desirous of starting serious negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians, but it was all a sham. Benjamin Netanyahu took him aside and came out with the usual Israeli bullshit about the Palestinians “inciting” violence and hatred of Jews and Trump bought into it

    It’s comical to behold the “select” group which voted for Trump now complain on these pages of the UR about what the man said he was going to do from the very beginning on the Israel-Palestine issue. It is not a sham. Trump never believed the “bullshit” coming from the U.N. [a body which has over 40 Muslim and Arab members] on the contrary, attacking the solitary Jewish nation state. He required no “taking aside” by Bibi. One needn’t travel to the West Bank to find Jew hatred; a few months’ worth of reading your columns being quite sufficient.

    I might note in passing that there has been no Senate resolution commemorating the 50th anniversary of the bravery exhibited by the officers and crew of the USS Liberty as they were being slaughtered by the Israelis at the same time as Jerusalem was being “liberated”

    Such a Senate resolution requires convincing senators of its necessity. No one is stopping anyone.

    I understand you feel Jerusalem is better in the hands of Palestinians and Arabs. We disagree.

    A gem of an article all things considered.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Sam J.
  123. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    “I believe it was Incitatus who praised your efforts by stating “Well done Jim Daniel!”
    Well done, indeed!”

    Daniel asked interesting questions. A good break from toxic innuendoes, whiny laments and phony breast beating.

    Do you believe Israel killed JFK? Planned 9/11? Is AIPAC the only special interest? Is Israel the font of all evil, or do we merit scrutiny as well?

    Ros-Lehtinen’s record is ample cause for criticism. Does her “tribal” ancestry add something, Geo?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  124. anarchyst says:
    @KenH

    There is already a bill in the American congress that gives Israel “veto power” over American arms sales to foreign countries.
    Sick…

  125. @Dave Pinsen

    Just hit Control F “USS Liberty” to see if it’s mentioned here. Yep.

    Odds it’s mentioned in Phil’s next column?

    It should be, you smarmy little quisling. It should be mentioned in every newspaper and Internet news item, every day, until America begins to get a glimmering of who their masters are.

  126. chris says:
    @Jim Daniel

    Well, ok, after reading geokat’s and Art’s references, I feel kind of stupid for having tried to refute your comment point by point. To separate jewish interests from Ms Ros-lehtinen’s life opus is like trying to separate anti-semitism from the metaphorical Hitler; it’s her defining quality (with a bit of Calypso flavor, maybe).

    Good one! I didn’t realize you were using troll technique number 5C, the: ‘disinterested and objective reader has the revelation that it’s the journalist himself who’s the actual troll.’ I gather, you must be a little new at this. Listen, when you use this template, it’s kind of stupid to make use of an easily refutable point when building up your credentials ! The whole trap rests on this build-up, see what I mean? Didn’t Sam and Sherm go over this with you in your troll classes ?

    I’ve got to warn you, the audience here is a little more advanced than the normal commentator crowd. At your level, I’d say you’re good for more remedial sites like the WaPo and NYT; try them out, you might actually bag a couple of (more) morons there. My friends here saved me this time, but at those sites you’ve got a much better chance because there’s no lifeguard on duty; none to make corrections in this direction, that is.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Jim Daniel
  127. RobinG says:
    @lavoisier

    “Respectable liberals” and respectable conservatives who have not been mind-fucked by the media are few and far between. “Our government” is in the clutches of the Deep State. (Broad definition= Global Financial Interests. Pentagon, CIA & Congress are only the tools.)

    “Our Republic is on life support.” Indeed. An effort to revive Her (2nd Revolution) is beginning. Cynthia McKinney and Robert David Steele [Alt-Left + Alt-Right] propose #UNRIG: Summer of Peace (a.k.a. Beyond Trump and Sanders). Interview explains:

    #UNRIG Robert David Steele on The Veterans News Hour 2017 06 18 Hi Q

  128. annamaria says:
    @Sam Shama

    “You fail to understand most Americans view Iranians as a nation of people which took hostage American diplomats.”

    You feign ignorance of the USSLiberty. The American servicemen were not just hostages for Israel – American servicemen were murdered by Israelis: https://theintercept.com/2017/06/06/fifty-years-later-nsa-keeps-details-of-israels-uss-liberty-attack-secret/
    Most Americans are also aware that the US Congress has become Israel-occupied Congress, with the horrific consequences for the global insecurity.
    “Israel Has Been Secretly Funding Syrian Rebels For Years:” http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-19/israel-has-been-secretly-funding-syrian-rebels-years
    “The Kagans Are Back; Wars to Follow:” https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/15/the-kagans-are-back-wars-to-follow/
    There was an enormous sympathy for Jewish victims of the WWII; the sympathy and goodwill for Israel have been completed squandered by the bloody ziocons. Only opportunists stay loyal to Israeli agenda, whereas honest people look with horror on the transformation of a victim into an amoral villain.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  129. iffen says:
    @chris

    I’ve got to warn you, the audience here is a little more advanced than the normal commentator crowd.

    I find a bit of humor in noticing how frequently some of the commenters here tell themselves that they are among the more “advanced.”

    I stand by my comment that very few of you anti-Semitic types are that good at thinking on your feet.

    Cutting and pasting, sure, bloviating previous bloviations, sure.

    BTW, we are commenters, not commentators.

    • Replies: @chris
    , @Talha
  130. RobinG says:
    @Pissedoffalese

    Yes, “Cynthia is a goddess,” as Robert says. She has challenged the official narrative on 911, on Israel, on Libya…. on everything significant. Today they are asking for help to bring her back from Bangladesh for the “Summer of Peace” campaign. Here’s Robert’s letter:

    [MORE]

    The campaign to bring Cynthia home from Bangladesh for a four month national tour to talk about #UNRIG is going well. She will return on 2 July
    to open in St Louis at a major celebration of the black community (I open with Latinos in Texas at the end of the month), and then after returning to Bangladesh to close up, return on 15 July to start a three months RV tour (we cannot afford a bus at $50K a month, but the RB option turns out to be quite nice at $10K a month). Her lost salary is being covered by a benefactor, and PollMole is giving me $5K a month on which I pay taxes, so no personal compensation is coming from the funds being raised.

    We are $100 shy of $20,000. The purpose of this email is to urge you to consider a donation — $25 will do it, many are giving $100 — to carry us over the $20,000 line. Each person gets a certificate, attached. We just did a home brew interview with Cynthia that I believe turned out quite nicely, 19 minutes, it is at the top of the below page where you can also donate if you choose to do so — unrig.net opens soon, and donors will the be the first to be asked to propose specific stops as well as first in line for satellite enabled Internet skype interviews from the RV while we are on the road.

    https://www.generosity.com/fundraisers/unrig-summer-of-peace/dashboard#/manage

    We have a chance to restore integrity to our government this summer, in an ethical non–violent, measured manner. I hope you will consider the mission and vision statement below and agree that whatever your views on ideology, issues, or our legitimately elected President Donald Trump, this is our Bunker Hill — this is the 2nd American Revolution and worthy of your attention.

    CONCEPT: Everyone without regard to race, color, creed or any other factor comes together on one core principle: Unrigging the System. #UNRIG is a big tent — ultimately we pray #UNRIG and #RESIST merge into #2ndAmRev.

    MISSION: To restore integrity and truth to governance, with the informed will and wisdom of We the People at its heart.

    VISION: To enjoy a transparent government by 2022, that operates with honesty, respecting our planet and the human spirit, so that we may create a healthy, prosperous America rooted in truth with peace as our shared condition.

    We the People — unity for integrity. Cynthia and I are in your service.

    Very respectfully,
    Robert

  131. @chris

    I hope you get free, chris.

    • Replies: @chris
  132. chris says:
    @iffen

    I find a bit of humor in noticing how frequently some of the commenters here tell themselves that they are among the more “advanced.”

    That’s not what I meant at all, my reference to ‘advanced’ was only that if you drop some unsubstantiated assertion here, some of the commenters (thank you) will look it up and provide the reference for you. I’ve seen sites where the most absurd assertions get passed over without correction!

    I stand by my comment that very few of you anti-Semitic types are that good at thinking on your feet.

    And what is this crap anti-semitism? What the hell are you talking about ?

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Sam Shama
  133. chris says:
    @Jim Daniel

    Thanks Jim, I hope you get a sense of humor!

  134. Brous says:

    DEM their EyePac !

  135. Rurik says: • Website

    thank you Philip Giraldi (and Ron Unz) for another dose of sanity in an otherwise mendacious and treacherous world

    Peace

    • Agree: Junior
  136. iffen says:
    @chris

    if you drop some unsubstantiated assertion here, some of the commenters (thank you) will look it up and provide the reference for you. I’ve seen sites where the most absurd assertions get passed over without correction!

    The UR comment section and many (most?) of the contributors are poster children for unsubstantiated assertion.

    I give you points for reminding me that in the past I have been directed to some good information by some of the commenters here, in spite of the crappy anti-Semitism and the anti-Semitic crap.

  137. FLgeezer says:
    @annamaria

    >Hence the approaching danger of a hot war.

    All in the name of efficiency of course. What better way to rid the world of we hapless, white, annoying goy than a nuclear exchange between America and Russia. Open borders simply will simply take too long.

    The izzies lust for Russia’s natural resources, and will feel justified in taking them for Russia’s having come to the aid of Assad.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  138. Sam Shama says:
    @chris

    Your definition of ‘advanced’ readers seems to describe the common Google grunt, a ‘sleuth’ even, as some in that category self-congratulate, doubtlessly.

    Donner sa langue au chat, as they say, in more ways than one…..

    • Replies: @chris
  139. chris says:
    @Sam Shama

    You realize I was just making fun of our buddy Jim, right? (context!)

  140. Sam Shama says:
    @annamaria

    Dear Lady, it is you! And here I thought you resolved to spurn further tête-à-tête.

    ‘Prayers rewarded’ thought this simple soul, that I should find you in that propitious time of the month when birds sing with the heavens and the red river tranquil, and we speak of things melodious and meaningful.

    But the Kagans intervene, and I fear the inevitable others about to deluge the scenery. So I bid you farewell ’til the time is right.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Incitatus
  141. windwaves says:

    I think the main issue here is: what do we do to liberate our country from the destructive and disgusting jew domination ? How do we wake up Americans ? how do we spread the truth ?

    That is a big challenge. Because the jews control every breath we take.

    Sadly, enough americans, blinded by power and/or money, have allowed this to happen and now only a war would likely liberate us from the jew control. There is no need whatsoever to fight Iran, or Iraq or Afghanistan. We need to regain control of our country fighting israel and the jew influence on America.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
    , @FLgeezer
  142. annamaria says:

    “And here I thought you resolved to spurn further tête-à-tête.”

    Still trying to incite Americans to spend US treasury & limb for your wars with your cousins?

    You asked for it by showing your rabid hatred towards Persians and by using – dishonestly – a much less tragic episode than the USSLiberty slaughter by Israelis.

  143. Sam Shama says:

    Spare me the ‘contextual’ balderdash. It’s plainly evident you and Geokat attempt to undercut Jim’s overall query by clinging to a single point which relies narrowly on Ros-Lehtinen’s ethnicity. What about practising a bit of what you preach? The overall tone, voice and content of this piece is one of barely concealed antisemitism, innuendo and a coquettish alliance of convenience with the conspiracy barms. Any concerns? [One wonders, on the other hand, if Giraldi is a full blown conspiracist behind the facade]

    For example the video link I posted in #125 is the one which Giraldi claimed unavailable at the CBS website. Any retractions coming, or, is objectiveness exclusively applied as a standard for those you call ‘troll’ – without hesitation. A person arguing against the motion is not a troll. You chaps would not find yourselves chuffed in an extempore debate.

    Small point. Somewhere up thread, you mentioned I amongst others would respond during the Israeli a.m. I happen to be here in NY and I had posted prior to your own entry. Rush not into judgement my friend…..

  144. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Many here are acting as if, if it were not for that zionist entity *spit*, America would be the epitome of all that is good in the world.

    *beep*, I can’t imagine anything further from the truth.

    Everybody -meaning white americans- conveniently ignores the history of the evil empire, where the shedding of blood, and acts of extreme cruelty, has been coursing through its veins, since its very birth.

    Do you think a juden devil stands around whispering to a “good” christian drone operator, as he opens up on a crowd of civilians, with women and children among them?

    So, much of that past and present cannot be blamed entirely on the vile things, who currently control the world by proxy.

    Greed and psychopathy is innate to the white race, and is independent of the judens. Evidently those virtues are a winning combination for success in this world. I can only laugh at those racist idiots who exult at that success, when the extreme cost is considered.

    That said, the zionist Pandora’s box has been opened. You *beep*ers opened it. That evil entity has learned from the best, and will not let others live in peace.

    My only hope is the ones would opened it, pay the maximum price, at some point in the future, because you have certainly escaped it until now.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  145. @anarchyst

    No crime goes unsolved. One day the truth will come out, the Zionists and their slaves will pay a hefty price.

  146. annamaria says:
    @Sam Shama

    “And here I thought you resolved to spurn further tête-à-tête.”

    Still trying to incite Americans to spend US treasury & limb for your wars with your cousins?

    You asked for it by showing your rabid hatred towards Persians and by using – dishonestly – a much less tragic episode than the USSLiberty slaughter by Israelis.

  147. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Daniel

    Can you show me one war America is fighting for oil? Can you show me one war America fought for oil ?

  148. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    “Phil remains a dissenting voice; against God’s will?’

    Given the juden contempt for Christ, it is ironic a hasbarist should invoke, presumably Christ himself, in such a manner.

    But, what to do with the stupidity of ordinary christians, who have embraced Christ’s haters, while they show open contempt for “others” who truly love him?

    One of life’s mysteries, I guess.

  149. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Daniel

    “When that April meeting finally occurred, according to Clarke’s book, Against All Enemies, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz objected that “I just don’t understand why we are beginning by talking about this one man, bin Laden.” Clarke responded that, “We are talking about a network of terrorist organizations called al-Qaeda, that happens to be led by bin Laden, and we are talking about that network because it and it alone poses an immediate and serious threat to the United States.” To which Wolfowitz replied, “Well, there are others that do as well, at least as much. Iraqi terrorism for example.””

    In Angler, Barton Gellman notes that it was the 36th time the CIA had raised al-Qaeda with President Bush since he took office.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/did-george-w-bush-do-all-he-could-to-prevent-911/411175/

    According to Eichenwald’s sources, “the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat.”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/did-george-w-bush-do-all-he-could-to-prevent-911/411175/

    By diverting resources to saddam’s Iraq ,Wolfowitz made America unsafe for the 911 victims . By not focusing on Al Qauida, Neocons made America vulnerable to certainty of the attacks
    They have blood on their pants . They did not care American fates They cared for Israel because Al Qaida was not fighting against Israel Saddam was indirectly.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  150. @Sam Shama

    Sam you are becoming tedious but I am pleased to learn that I am really pissing you off. I would not change one word of my article, to include the Ros-Lehtinen ethnicity. And as for the Colbert interview, if you had read my link and then had actually watched the CBS website link of the interview that you provided you would realize that CBS excised the comment about Israel, which is precisely what I said had happened. Have to do your homework Sam. And by the way, I consider Israel to be one of the greatest threats to world peace and the leading corrupter of the democracy in my own country, which is, by the way, the United States of America. I will continue to speak out Sam. As that apparently causes you pain, maybe you should change your reading habits and avoid Unz.com on Tuesday mornings.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  151. L.K says:
    1911517

    Mr. Giraldi,

    Your reply to sham the zionist just made my day, it really made me lol!

    Thanks for the excellent article and keep up the good work!

    BTW, have you ever considered writing a book on these matters?

    Cheers

    • Agree: Rurik
  152. L.K says:

    The few US citizens who realize the absurd power the zionist matrix holds over the ZUSA, often do not realize this is also true in the most important European countries and even beyond.
    Guillaume Durocher does a great job explaining the problem in France;

    Jewish Influence and Ethnic Networking in France: In Their Own Words . . .

    It is often difficult for ordinary people to understand how small groups can achieve such a preponderant influence in the life of a country. But such influence should not be surprising: Modern societies have a highly complex division of labor leading to enormous power asymmetries, with huge amounts of power being concentrated in the hands of the tiny elites making up the media, top oligarchs, and the political class…

    This is a world of chummy networks and mutual back-scratching, one where even small ethnocentric elite networks can have a decisive impact. And, concerning Jewish ethnic networks, I have documented extensively (e.g., here) that they are massively overrepresented among French elites, that they are completely intolerant of criticism of Jewish power and ethnocentrism, and are equally intolerant of French ethno-nationalism. As further evidence, I present in this article a number of interesting statements, mostly from Jews, taken from Paul-Éric Blanrue’s books on Jewish power networks.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/03/17/jewish-influence-and-ethnic-networking-in-france-in-their-own-words/

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/10/01/%EF%BB%BF-the-lobby-that-doesnt-exist-politicians-and-pundits-on-jewish-influence-in-france/

  153. Sam Shama says:

    Don’t look for the exchange with Colbert on YouTube. CBS deleted it from its broadcast and website, demonstrating once again that the “I” word cannot be disparaged on national television.

    Every bit of it is there.

    What say you about the Kennedy assassination and 9/11? Go ahead and air those views “to the best of your ability”. Why the dual standards between what you write here and at TAC?

    “irritate the shit out” of me is an erroneous conclusion. It amuses me exceedingly each week to watch the tantrums of inmates in your asylum, Dr Silas Lamb.

    • Replies: @iffen
  154. Rurik says: • Website
    @Sam Shama

    The overall tone, voice and content of this piece is one of barely concealed antisemitism

  155. @anon

    They have blood on their pants . They did not care American fates They cared for Israel because Al Qaida was not fighting against Israel Saddam was indirectly.

    Blood on their pants? You mean, like a menstruating woman? AAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEE!!! Not THAT!

  156. Rurik says: • Website
    @anonymous

    .. psychopathy is innate to the white race

    My only hope is the ones would opened it, pay the maximum price, at some point in the future

    ..speaks the racist psychopath who seems to pine for not just the murder of whites, but of Americans and Christians too.

    charming

    is there anyone you don’t wish to see murdered?

    and they wonder why people vote for Trump to keep people like you out

  157. @Sam Shama

    The overall tone, voice and content of this piece is one of barely concealed antisemitism

    Why conceal it? Sure, Giraldi has to be cautious of Jewish lawyers seeking libel, but the rest of us are free to be anti-semitic. I am former US Navy, and I am well aware that Israelis wantonly slaughtered 34 American sailors and wounded 150+ more. And all of it was denied, and the survivors denied a hearing … and gross, criminal corruption by Israeli agents in the US government continues unabated, growing ever more intense.

    So … anti-semitic? Not exactly — there’s a few semitic peoples that behave honorably and humanely. Then, how about “anti-Israeli”? Properly descriptive, yes? All Jews being Israelis by default, and permitted dual citizenship that is denied any other people of foreign birth?

    Corruption. Deceit. Lies. Manipulation. Theft. Fraud. Treason.

    Yeah, let’s go with “anti-Israeli”. It fits so seamlessly.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @chris
    , @geokat62
  158. Rurik says: • Website
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    let’s go with “anti-Israeli”.

    you aren’t allowed

    criticism of Israel = hatred of all Jews

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_antisemitism

    Proponents of the concept argue that anti-Zionism, anti-Americanism, anti-globalization, third worldism, and demonization of Israel, or double standards applied to its conduct, may be linked to antisemitism, or constitute disguised antisemitism

    Please note that anti-Zionism is listed right with anti-Americanism, we are now so completely intertwined.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  159. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Sam,

    As you say, ‘game. set, and match.’

    Just goes to show. Table legs (like fire hydrants) attract universal habitual behavior. Who knew?

    Best.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  160. chris says:

    Spare me the ‘contextual’ balderdash. It’s plainly evident you and Geokat attempt to undercut Jim’s overall query by clinging to a single point which relies narrowly on Ros-Lehtinen’s ethnicity.

    Listen, Sam, Jim is trying to sell himself as some holier-than-thou virgin, walking innocently through the dark forest of near-anti-semitism and l tried to respond to his arguments, but then he assures us all that this woman, what’s her face is some devout Catholic, but then, if you check any reference to her, she’s like Saban (or was it Soros), she’s a one issue guy! So our buddy Jim is packing a whopper, not really arguing in good faith and so I was just trying to make fun of him for that. The Lehtinen point was just where I finally caught up with the scam.

    His other point of accusing Phil of supporting conspiracy theories, what you call “coquettish alliance of convenience with the conspiracy barms” is demonstratively false and you know it! None of us, including Phil and Ron would visit this website if that was the case. By “conspiracy theories,” I mean, of course, the unproved ones; and Phil just left some food for thought, this week, as an assignment for all of us. You know, this illegal surveillance stuff will some day be mined, exactly to prove such future conspiracy theories.

    Phil took care of your 2nd paragraph, nicely; thanks, Phil!

    And the last one:

    Small point. Somewhere up thread, you mentioned I amongst others would respond during the Israeli a.m. I happen to be here in NY and I had posted prior to your own entry. Rush not into judgement my friend…..

    I know you do, I was kidding, of course; I had meant that you live in Israel figuratively – besides where would you find all your non-Jewish friends to hang out with in Israel?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  161. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    Daniel asked interesting questions.

    While that may be true, he also made a statement that was not completely factual. Now, I wouldn’t normally rush to judgement and assume this person had bad intentions, but when he qualified his misleading statement with the words “somewhat” and “I think,” the alarm bells went off.

    Ros-Lehtinen’s record is ample cause for criticism. Does her “tribal” ancestry add something, Geo?

    What do you think her “tribal” ancestry might add, Icitatus?

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  162. chris says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    Very good point, John!
    (I was get back to this topic myself)

  163. geokat62 says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    I am former US Navy, and I am well aware that Israelis wantonly slaughtered 34 American sailors and wounded 150+ more. And all of it was denied, and the survivors denied a hearing … and gross, criminal corruption by Israeli agents in the US government continues unabated, growing ever more intense.

    Yeah, but as one of the commenters so graciously reminded us, those eyeranians took 52 Americans hostages. When you compare these two outrageous acts, it’s clear who the US should have in the cross hairs, right?

  164. geokat62 says:

    It amuses me exceedingly each week to watch the tantrums of inmates in your asylum, Dr Silas Lamb.

    That’s funny. This is the exact same observation a critic made in his review of Adorno’s groundbreaking study in the AJC’s Studies in Prejudice series, The Authoritarian Personality:

    the book’s goal was to eliminate antisemitism by “subjecting the American people to what amounted to collective psychotherapy—by treating them as inmates of an insane asylum.”

    I guess we should expect another installment of the SIP series in the not too distant future?

  165. […] Giraldi Global Research, June 21, 2017 The Unz Review 20 June […]

  166. Sam J. says:
    @jilles dykstra

    “…What I cannot understand is why Jews want to live on the top of a vulcano…”

    There’s an incredibly simple explanation. The Jews are a tribe of psychopaths. Not all, maybe not even the majority, but a lot. I keep saying this constantly but the psychopathic mentality is so different from most of our way of thinking that we have a hard time believing it.

    Now we are beginning to have proof in genetic studies. Read heartiste article on genetic testing of races.(It’s not too long)

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/06/19/ashkepathy/

    The long term behavior of Jews, as a group, can in no way be differentiated from a tribe of psychopaths. All of the Jews ancient writings are nothing more than a manual for psychopaths to live by. The Talmud is nothing but one psychopathic thought after another. The Talmud “great enlightenment” basically says that everyone not Jewish is there to serve Jews. All their property is really the Jews. No one is really human unless they’re Jews and their lives don’t matter. A psychopathic religion for a psychopathic people.

    They’ve been thrown out of every single country that they’ve been to in any numbers. Psychopaths having no empathy themselves can only go by the feedback they get from the people they are exploiting. So they push and push to see what they can get away with. The normal people build up resentment towards them. Thinking “surely they will reform or repent” like a normal person who does wrong. Of course the Jews do not. They don’t have the mental process for reform. Then in a huge mass outpouring of hate for the Jews, fed up with the refusal to reform their behavior, they attack and/or deport them. In this stage of the cycle the Big/Rich Jews escape and the little Jews are attacked.

    Start over.

    Even if it’s wrong if you assume the Jews are a tribe of psychopaths you will never be surprised and Jew’s behavior will make sense.

    Once you understand the Jews are a tribe of psychopaths their silly assed schemes become transparent. You just have to see them for what they are. Never listen to what they say as they are complete liars. Look at the media coverage of Trump, Russia, Russia, Russia, if this is not an absolute premier textbook definition of psychopathic “gas-lighting” then I don’t know what is.

    • Replies: @chris
  167. Sam J. says:
    @lavoisier

    “…The American people are responsible even if they are being manipulated by the MSM…”

    By your logic all Jews should be exterminated due to the millions and millions of deaths they have caused world wide and have made no attempt to atone for.

    So I call your play. I perfectly willing to trade culpability of the guilt of Whites to not being informed in trade for the extermination of the Jews.

  168. Sam J. says:
    @FLgeezer

    “…What better way to rid the world of we hapless, white, annoying goy than a nuclear exchange between America and Russia. Open borders simply will simply take too long…”

    I think exactly the same as you. I have no doubt they are capable of this. They are a tribe of psychopaths and have no morals or empathy at all. The more power they get the worse they are.

  169. Sam J. says:
    @(((Bb)))

    “…The nations that people (by the millions) are desperately trying to enter are nations with established Jewish populations…”

    This has nothing to do with the Jews. The Jews migrate to places where there’s money and pleasant people so they can loot and destroy them. The Jews just happen to be there. They’re not a feature at all.

    Jews who move to Israel from the US often move back because of the vileness of the Jew. It’s unfettered for is more readily available in Israel.

  170. Sam J. says:
    @anarchyst

    Thanks for this comment. The Jews often try to bury the truth about themselves.

  171. Sam J. says:
    @anarchyst

    “…Let’s not forget the “Samson option” in which Israel promises to nuke a European or American city if its interests are threatened…”

    This is exactly why we should have a massive preemptive multi megaton strike on Israel if they don’t give up their nuclear weapons.

  172. Sam Shama says:
    @chris

    Chris, do you see how apt many are to dismiss the entirety of a message from an interlocutor, a fellow commenter seeking dialogue, if he merely states a point of which he isn’t fully certain? You must see it, do you not? I e.g. did not know of this Ros-Lehtinen, even though, as you say, her reputation as a committed Israel supporter come hell or high water precedes her.

    People have their own opinions, positions, and beliefs. Phil Giraldi believes his gout and assaults on democracy and both explained by Israel. I think advancing years, dietary regimens, sunspots and human nature are the causes. But to each his own, I say.

    In any case when a man writes, as Jim Daniel did:

    On the last point, I’m opposed to people trying to get us into useless military or diplomatic conflicts, whether they be motivated by Israel’s perceived interest, or Cuba’s, or by defense contractors or Big Oil, or by spreading democracy or realpolitik force projection, or by boosting military budgets and promotions, or plain old bloodlust, or whatever. All those factors and more play a part, and if you can compare and estimate their relative influence, you’re smarter than I.

    Do you feel he is being a boring partisan or is he, on the contrary, a person attempting to find a truer picture of reality quite in contrast to someone who with the certainty of a zealot claims they are in possession of Truth?

    Conspiracy theories intrigue many I suppose, and this webzine contains some of the choicest. But no person with a reputation to guard would indulge even dropping oblique references, tongue and cheek as you say, lest they lose every shred of credibility. Ron Unz himself cautioned about this in a thread where the most notorious of that lot bared his chest as he habitually does on these matters.

    As I said earlier, mostly I come here to amuse myself. On the rare occasion, I discover truly gifted, insightful and knowledgeable persons. I can count them on the digits of my hand not engaged on the keyboard.

    And yes, I do enjoy speaking to smart persons many of whom are not Jewish.

    • Replies: @chris
  173. Sam J. says:
    @Sam Shama

    “…Antisemitism is a serious matter…”

    Uhhh…no it’s not. Not as long as Anti-Whiteness is not a serious matter. As long as Jews attack Whites constantly then I’m all for as much antisemitism as possible. I prefer to cal it “Hating the Jews” though. You deserve it.

  174. H. S. says:

    Schumer Calls on BP to Suspend Planned Drilling Activities in Libya:

    ”There was a country called Libya:”

    http://thenewsnigeria.com.ng/2017/06/there-was-a-country-called-libya/

    Jun 17 2017

  175. Sam J. says:
    @windwaves

    “…Sadly, enough americans, blinded by power and/or money…”

    No they’re blinded because the large majority of TV stations, radio stations, newspapers, magazines, book publishing, search engines, textbook publishing, etc, are owned by the Jews and control them to some extent.

  176. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    Hi Incitatus,

    Quite so; regarding the habits of our canine friends. Some say a turn at living in England imparts an appreciation for human eccentricities, but on balance I rank those of innocent canines just as high. Whatever shall I do if deprived of their company and foibles?

    Best.

  177. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    He’s a Mossad agent. It’s the only scenario that makes sense.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  178. FLgeezer says:
    @windwaves

    >That is a big challenge. Because the jews control every breath we take.

    Quelle coincidence. Not two minutes after I posted #141, a picture of our family popped up unbidden and without attribution on the Facebook page of my wife. Surveillance state? Mais oui!

  179. @Rurik

    criticism of Israel = hatred of all Jews

    Nah. I am serenely unconcerned with what some protected species of Wikipedee-ites have to spew about people they libel. I just don’t care any more. There are a handful of rational, loyal, American Jews, and there are Israelis.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  180. chris says:
    @Sam Shama

    Yeah, I love reading Phil’s articles and comment section because ther’s a lot of tongue and cheek banter and zingers and attempted exclusions and come-backs and often something interesting to learn also. None of which is possible in the real world where there’s this blackmail with ostracism hanging above everyone’s head who dares to say something out of line.

    Did you ever notice that none of your non-Jewish friends ever make such banter with you about Jewish matters as they do here? And it’s not because your friends are not but we, here are all anti-semitetes, or because all your friends are hiding it so well. It’s because of the taboos which have been raised against it. More about that anon.

    To return to our old friend, Jim, yes I do appreciate the point he made which you are quoting, but the issue of the sanctions against Russia, as Phil is showing is much more imminent, as it’s just happened! I’d much prefer the discussion here were about that than anything else.

  181. Junior says:

    And not only did the Stephen Colbert interview with Oliver Stone cut out the Israel question, when it was reported on in the New York Post they of course smeared him as an “anti-Semite” in the hit piece for having the AUDACITY to bring up the FACT that Israel had far more involvement in the US election than Russia.

    From the Page Six hit piece on Stone in the NY Post that were the first ones to report on it:

    The source said they “watched from behind [their] hands” as Stone said words to the effect of: “Israel had far more involvement in the US election than Russia.”

    The “Platoon” director further challenged Colbert by saying, “Why don’t you ask me about that?” — but we’re told that the host shot back, “I’ll ask you about that when you make a documentary about Israel!”

    (The source described Stone’s Israeli argument as “a classic anti-Semitic canard.”)

    Meanwhile, the parts of the discussion that did make it to air Monday night were called “fiery,” “tense” and “bizarre” by critics.

    http://pagesix.com/2017/06/13/oliver-stones-late-show-interview-went-completely-off-the-rails/

    As Former Israeli Minister Shulamit Aloni said about silencing any who dare to speak about Israel, “Anti-semitic, its a trick we always use it”

    • Replies: @geokat62
  182. @Wally

    wally the ‘jews’ in israel are not jews (and don’t confuse zionism with jews). they are kahzarian converts to judaism. the palestinians have a closer dna to the people at the time of christ than these ‘jews’. you may also like to know that there was no extermination of the jews by hitler. the so called camps were transfer stations for jews going to russia. they died of typhus. number dead 200k due to the allies bombing the transport and pharmaceutical companies manufacturing the antidote. check the statistics of the number of jews in europe in 1936 and 1946. the difference equal to the number that died to typhus.

  183. RobinG says:

    NO THUMB DRIVE ! He says definitively, twice. & never met Seth Rich.
    (This is for whatever-her-name-was, and friends.

    Craig Murray at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London

  184. geokat62 says:

    In any case when a man writes, as Jim Daniel did:

    On the last point, I’m opposed to people trying to get us into useless military or diplomatic conflicts, whether they be motivated by Israel’s perceived interest, or Cuba’s, or by defense contractors or Big Oil, or by spreading democracy or realpolitik force projection, or by boosting military budgets and promotions, or plain old bloodlust, or whatever. All those factors and more play a part, and if you can compare and estimate their relative influence, you’re smarter than I.
    ……

    Conspiracy theories intrigue many I suppose, and this webzine contains some of the choicest. But no person with a reputation to guard would indulge even dropping oblique references, tongue and cheek as you say, lest they lose every shred of credibility. Ron Unz himself cautioned about this in a thread where the most notorious of that lot bared his chest as he habitually does on these matters.

    It appears that some are seriously trying to suggest that PNAC and other members of The Lobby that plumped the US to launch the phony GWOT is a conspiracy. They prefer to have us believe that these wars, as “Jim” so innocently suggests, may have more to do with Cuba, or Big Oil, or, my all time favourite, the spreading of democracy.

    Give me an effing break. As The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy clearly demonstrated, the influence of The Lobby was a necessary condition for the invasion of Iraq – i.e., without its influence, it would never have taken place.

    But, I forgot, Professors Mearsheimer and Walt are both antisemites who are responsible for manufacturing this “conspiracy” about The Lobby’s influence, because of their monomania with the Jewish State and its enablers.

    So, we are then asked to ponder the following question:

    Do you feel he is being a boring partisan or is he, on the contrary, a person attempting to find a truer picture of reality quite in contrast to someone who with the certainty of a zealot claims they are in possession of Truth?

    Anyone who has read the full contents of The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy knows the answer to this seemingly innocuous question: The Lobby is responsible for formulating the plan to remake the MENA, they plumped the USG to launch the phony GWOT to achieve their goals, and they helped sell it to the American people by marketing it through the LOW, Legenpresse of Weimerica.

    And you know damn well that this is the truest picture of reality, notwithstanding “Jim’s” and your efforts to sow the seeds of doubt in the minds of the goyisher kops.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @iffen
  185. anarchyst says:
    @Art

    It is interesting to note that one can call a Jew a scoundrel, shyster, criminal ne’er do well, or other derogatory term and it will roll of a Jew’s back like water on a duck, BUT call a Jew a “Jew” and he will recoil in horror, having been “found out”.
    Sorta tells you something…

  186. […] Israel’s Dirty Little Secret; How it drives US policies exploiting a spineless Congress and White House” …. “Former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon once boasted about owning the United States. I guess he was right.” So do I. http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-dirty-little-secret/ […]

  187. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    I wonder…..

    • Replies: @iffen
  188. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    The table legs, friend, are just as worn as Sisyphus from bearing every of your load.

    Two, are the ways one can get home; the first is to stay put while the other is to walk the world and keep walking till you trace your path back to where you started. Discernment then strikes. When you see your home and garden from a distant peak, a flat and shiny patch of colours, but merely part of a vastly greater form on which you had always lived, but which was too large and too close to be seen.

  189. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    the seeds of doubt in the minds

    As a general rule, having seeds of doubt is a good thing, not a bad thing.

  190. geokat62 says:

    The table legs, friend…

    Rather peculiar that you would choose to describe someone you previously accused of being a Jew-hater as “friend,” isn’t it?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Art
  191. @Sam Shama

    When you see your home and garden from a distant peak, a flat and shiny patch of colours, but merely part of a vastly greater form on which you had always lived, but which was too large and too close to be seen.

    Saint’s preserve us, Robert Silverberg is now an Internet forum commenter.

    [raucous laughter]

    I knew I’d read variations on this BS before.

    Look, Ace, “I wonder if I should kill myself?” is just a plain-English version of “To be or not to be, that is the question. Whether tis nobler in mind to suffer … ”

    Oh, never mind. Your Israeli bullshit is still bullshit, be it wrapped in velour or wrapped in fish paper.

    • LOL: chris
    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @chris
  192. The only way that this influence stops is that the state, the society which is the host, dies and zog moves elsewhere. The body politic is completely infested, and sooner or later, it will dissipate, possibly from financial and economic collapse, particularly helped by war – but it must be a war which directly affects the masses. The sickness is not only in the bought politicians and bought media but also in the deracinated and demoralized electronic herd. A people who allow this to be done to them are going to be naturally deselected.

  193. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    I have lots of these friends. I buy them a cold one mate. We get on fine.

  194. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    What’s the calculus?

    He has 51 comments at TAC for his more than excellent How Hillary Lost, In Her Own Words. Compare that to his ringing of the Liberty Bell here for 361 comments.

    Do comments mean anything?

    I know that you have said before that this little band of 88s in this little rabbit hole amount to squat in the “big” picture and I want to believe that, but how can otherwise learned, intelligent people play to these types of crowds.

    Did you know that anti-Semites have infected Biblical archaeology? How many more infestations are there in areas with which I have little knowledge or familiarity?

  195. Sam Shama says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    “Oh never mind…”

    I do not. And you’ve read Shakespeare! Quick, answer this: What were the two lines later removed by Willaim S. in Act III of the same play from which you quote. An internet search will likely not reveal it. Requires one to read classics at certain places….

    Best of luck petty officer.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  196. anon • Disclaimer says:

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/03/23/what-lies-beneath-numec-apollo-zalman-shapiro/

    City in Ohio still is still counting it death while Netanayahuu and numerous surrogates acolytes cheer leaders and accomplices strut free .

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  197. @iffen

    I know that you have said before that this little band of 88s in this little rabbit hole amount to squat in the “big” picture and I want to believe that, but how can otherwise learned, intelligent people play to these types of crowds.

    For starters, by acting like real, legitimate Americans, as opposed to acting like arrogant foreign agents sent to corrupt the youth with Israeli bullshit.

    As an intelligent, educated, sensitive, refined, worldly, sophisticated, erudite student, nay, expert analyst of the human condition, modern civilization, with a healthy dose of Pure Truth, Beauty and Effulgent Ethics thrown into the mix, what hell are YOU doing here, subjecting yourself to the grunts of these subhuman Calibans?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  198. @Sam Shama

    What were the two lines later removed by Willaim S. in Act III of the same play from which you quote.

    Um, uh, duh, geee, wuz doze two lines sompin’ ’bout “misdirection”?

    Mustabin.

  199. Sam Shama says:

    Shakespearean references carelessly discharged, a collection of words, all meant to signal exactly……? And yet when tested on the subject it is “sompin’ ’bout misdirection”

    Oh so clever, clever the petty favour

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  200. Sam Shama says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    Shakespearean references carelessly discharged, a collection of words, all meant to signal exactly……? And yet when tested on the subject it is “sompin’ ’bout misdirection”

    Oh so clever, clever the petty favour

    Mustanotbin

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  201. chris says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    Too funny, John !!!

    Let’s not forget the real author of that piece, GK Chesterton (Introduction to The Everlasting Man)

    There are two ways of getting home; and one of them is to stay there. The other is to walk round the whole world till we come back to the same place; and I tried to trace such a journey in a story I once wrote. … It concerned some boy whose farm or cottage stood on such a slope, and who went on his travels to find something, such as the effigy and grave of some giant; and when he was far enough from home he looked back and saw that his own farm and kitchengarden, shining flat on the hill-side like the colours and quarterings of a shield, were but parts of some such gigantic figure, on which he had always lived, but which was too large and too close to be seen. That, I think, is a true picture of the progress of any really independent intelligence today; and that is the point of this book

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  202. Rurik says: • Website
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    criticism of Israel = hatred of all Jews

    There are a handful of rational, loyal, American Jews, and there are Israelis.

    agreed

    but then look at how the mainstream Jewish organizations treat anti-Zionism as if it were the exact same thing as anti-Semitism. They are putatively demanding that if you disagree with any aspect of Zionism, that you’re de-facto an anti-Semite.

    try to imagine any Nazi, real or imagined with the rancid nads to declare that anyone with doubts about the wisdom of Nazism = an irrational, hatred-consumed anti-German.

    http://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/opposition-to-the-nazis/

    Whereas the ultimate in Jewish “human rights” organizations; the ADL, demands fealty for all things zio – or you must be a hate-filled Nazi, racist, blah, blah, blah…

    https://www.adl.org/what-we-do/israel

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  203. Sam Shama says:
    @chris

    I often paraphrase Chesterton from memory as I have noted on many occasions in the past [check my history]. That I forgot the mention this time does not mean the thrust of that passage is any less relevant and not attributable to some obscure writer which your pal thought it was.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @chris
  204. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    [Did you know that anti-Semites have infected Biblical archaeology?]

    Hi Iffen,
    I did not. Would you please elaborate?

    [but how can otherwise learned, intelligent people play to these types of crowds]

    Everyone loves adulation. Also most likely identification with fraternities in soul?

    • Replies: @iffen
  205. Rurik says: • Website
    @Sam Shama

    That I forgot the mention this time

    still, it’s a little embarrassing no?

    not knowing the work, I admit I was somewhat impressed by “your” prose

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  206. @anon

    Iraq, Iraq-Kuwait, preparing for war against Iran, because of their oil and nothing else, Iran has not attacked or invaded any country in the last three centuries. If Israel says Canada is our enemy, the cuck administration (whoever it is), the cuck congress, and MSM, will invent any reason to invade Canada or whoever Israel decides a threat…
    The Zionist are intoxicated with power, our leaders are overdosed with stupidity. Stupid is what stupid does

    • Agree: chris
  207. @anon

    Let’s not forget LIBYA, and don’t say Obama did it, it was already on the list of the Ziocons, before Bush was elected.

  208. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    I haven’t read in depth about it. It was news to me. Supposedly it follows one or both of two lines: archaeology that seeks to disprove the existence of the ancient Jews in the Holy Land and scholarship that seeks to show that the first archaeologists in the field skewed their results to prove the existence of the ancient Jews there.

    I found this this afternoon:

    Archaeology as Antisemitism
    Steven Leonard Jacobs*

    Controversy continues to surround the work of Nadia Abu El-Haj and
    Nur-eldeen (Nur) Masalha, both of whom argue that Israeli, American,
    Jewish, and Christian archaeologists continue to manipulate the past to
    their political advantage. Their case is made all the more complicated by
    the 1992 unsolved murder of American archaeologist Dr. Albert Glock,
    director of the Institute of Palestinian Archaeology at Birzeit University.
    This paper will revisit these issues in all of their contemporary relevance
    and their decidedly strong correlation within the overall framework of
    Arab-Muslim antisemitism.

    Abu El-Haj’s primary claim is that Israeli/Jewish archaeology, framed by a European (and hence colonialist) perspective, is essentially a political enterprise grounded in supposedly objective scholarship, but ultimately one that serves the needs of the Israeli nation-state while denying the historical legitimacy of the Palestinian people resident in that same place and that same history. Early on, she writes:
    The first generation of Israeli archaeologists—mainly immigrants from central and eastern Europe, many of whom had been trained in European universities—replicated wholesale, that cultural-historical approach to the ancient past. They produced evidence of ancient Israelite and Jewish presence in the Land of Israel, thereby supplying the very foundation, embodied in empirical form, of the modern nation’s origin myth.8
    It is her use of the word myth—not as used by scholars of religion without prejudice—that is indicative of how she reads not only the practice of Israeli archaeology, but the Hebrew Bible and Jewish history as well—as created story but with a decided contemporary political agenda.9 It is, therefore, at first read, a colonialist enterprise. As an example:
    . . . the colonial dimension of Jewish settlement in Palestine cannot be sidelined if one is to understand the significance and consequence of archaeological practice or, far more fundamentally, if one is to comprehend the dynamics of Israeli nation-state building and the contours of the Jewish national imagination as it crystallized therein.10
    Archaeology in Israel, then, is primarily responsible for creating “the fact of an ancient Israelite/Jewish nation and nation-state.”11 Thus, the political purpose it serves is to legitimize the claim of the present state and its people of having returned to its ancient original home. For, according to Abu El-Haj, other readings of the same past and the same evidence become contested and ultimately denied readings. Intellectually and academically, she has also argued in Facts on the Ground,/i> that the very Western and Jewish educational biases of the archaeologists themselves, prior to the present moment, continue to shore up the Israeli nation-state and this notion of return:
    . . . the excavations did prioritize, seek, and produce evidence of a Jewish national past. They were motivated by and framed within a prior historical “theory,” which was composed of the minutiae of a Jewish national tale, a story of ancient ascendance, destruction, and an ongoing desire to return.12

    Everyone loves adulation. Also most likely identification with fraternities in soul?

    A one-eyed king? I have troubling wrapping my brain around that.

  209. @Sam Shama

    Shakespearean references carelessly discharged, a collection of words,

    [GASP!!] Not a careless discharge of Shakespeare! Horrors!! Guards!! Guards!!

    Next thang ya know, these jaspers will develop a reckless disregard for the truth!

  210. @Sam Shama

    Shakespearean references carelessly discharged, a collection of words, all meant to signal exactly……? And yet when tested on the subject it is “sompin’ ’bout misdirection”

    Oh so clever, clever the petty favour

    Mustanotbin

    Lawsamercy, Mistah Sam, was it more than five minutes before you realized the priceless opportunity to insert “Mustanotbin” into the original post was lost? Let that be a lesson to you: formulate complete bullshit in your mind before rendering it as text.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  211. Sam Shama says:
    @Rurik

    I am never embarrassed to write as Chesterton might have. You may ask yourself ‘whom do I aspire to imitate?’. The prose as written was mine, a poor Antigonus no doubt, but still mine. The story was the great inimitable Chesterton’s. That is what ‘paraphrase’ means; or did you not know that? [read the original and you'll see the paraphrase]. In the future try to remember what paraphrase means. And I’ll remember to note when I am invoking Chesterton or anyone else for that matter.

  212. @Rurik

    Whereas the ultimate in Jewish “human rights” organizations; the ADL, demands fealty for all things zio – or you must be a hate-filled Nazi, racist, blah, blah, blah…

    Expected. Absolutely expected. Jews invented Pharisees, and the approach is just as useful today as it was 2100 years ago.

    I’ve gotten so I make no effort to express logic, reason, or facts in reply. They’re Zionists, and they’re lying. Or, maybe it’s just pure invention … what’s the functional difference? There is no truth from a Zionist.

    Take the faux-academic venture into “archaeological anti-semitism” above. (Let’s make sure to use the impressive-looking “archaeo” variation, vice the modern “archeo”.) Archeology as anti-semitism? Gorblimey, mate, you can’t get much more fake-newsy than shit like that. I hope the hokey intellectualism leaves you properly impressed. Sure did impress me. Those naughty Americans! Those naughty Palestinians!

    • Replies: @Rurik
  213. chris says:
    @Sam Shama

    Yes, that’s true, I’ve noted that you do.

    That’s very good, maybe some of his wisdom will brush up on you!

  214. Sam Shama says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    Hahaaaaa. No, the first post was an example of that which I’ve been chiding a friend of mine to not engage in – an unlinked response. Thus the second, linked and mustanotbin more’n 5 minutes massa John dat dam moderation and all…

  215. Art says:
    @geokat62

    The table legs

    Hi geokat62,

    Stinky Incitatus started these sexual attacks – how typical of the Jew bottom feeders.

    Here is a sample of his scatological handy work. Iffen too. (both Talmud experts.)

    Stinky Incitatus — #189
    “Frankly, you seem progressively unfit for little more than vomiting irrelevant verbal excrement, spreading it exclusively on yourself.”

    iffen — #200
    “Arcane sources surface like un-biodegraded turds in a cesspool.”

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/palestinians-to-the-woodshed/#respondiffen

    Sam and iffen are two of Stinky’s puppies in his little pack of Jew attack dogs – the little ones snicker and laugh – they are so cool strutting around with the big Jew dogs (aren’t they cute).

    Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  216. [The Zio-gangster state]operates with complete impunity on Capitol Hill and also at state and local levels…

    We could justifiably toss in the Pentagon as well.

    From a classic by LTC. Karen Kwiatkowski regarding her time in the Pentagon.:

    I learned that there was indeed a preferred ideology for NESA. My first day in the office, a GS-15 career civil servant rather unhappily advised me that if I wanted to be successful here, I’d better remember not to say anything positive about the Palestinians.

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EH08Ak01.html

    Following is a quote from another superb article by her revealing how Israeli generals have free run of the Pentagon, ignoring standard protocols at will.

    “My fellow escort and I chatted on the way back to our office about how the [Israeli] generals knew where they were going[in the Pentagon] (most foreign visitors to the five-sided asylum don’t) and how the generals didn’t have to sign in. I felt a bit dirtied by the whole thing and couldn’t stop comparing that experience to the grace and gentility of the Moroccan, Tunisian, and Algerian ambassadors with whom I worked”.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/open-door-policy/

  217. @anonymous

    Very repetitive . Same thing week after week . A single minded obsession , complete monomania.

    Thank G-d it’s only week after week, eh?

    Imagine what it’s like to listen to the self-declared smartest people on Earth whine and moan and play the victim card decade after decade after decade.

    “The” holocaust? Obsession? Single minded?

    Monomania? Say what?

    Waaa haaa haa haaaw!

  218. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    “What do you think her “tribal” ancestry might add…?”

    Honest opinion? It distracts from the main issue – disproportionate, uncritical support of Likud Israel that corrupts donor and recipient. Aided by media bias and distortion that, with few exceptions, converts news into sanitized pulp or omits it altogether.

    Is Ros-Lehtinen more villainous than Ed Royce, House Foreign Affairs Committee Chair? Ed’s just as fond of war, after all. An enthusiast for Iraq invasion in ‘03. Doesn’t care much for diplomacy. Subsequently led the chicken-little ‘sky-is-falling’ brigade against the Iran Nuclear Deal (JCPOA).

    Ed’s largest contributor 2013-14 ($48,150, opensecrets.org)? NorPAC, a “nonpartisan political action committee whose primary purpose is to support candidates and sitting members of the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives who demonstrate a genuine commitment to the strength, security, and survival of Israel” (-norpac.net). Next highest contributor ($17,800)? Defense contractor General Atomics, proud parent of Predator and Reaper drones. General Atomics is wholly owned by two brothers.

    Apparently NorPAC was pleased with Ed. Again top donors, they kicked in $114,243 in the 2015-16 cycle.

    Royce has a lot of company. Not least 47 senators who signed Cotton’s disgraceful 9 Mar 2015 Iran letter. Cotton took $960,250 from Bill Kristol’s ‘Emergency Committee for Israel.’ He sagely advocated bombing Iran (it’d only take “several days”) a month later.

    Ros-Lehtinen’s top contributor 2013-14? Rosen Partners (NY investment firm). $16,500 . Small change compared to what Royce and Cotton pocketed. NorPAC – absent ‘13-14 – appears ($18,850) second on her ‘15-16 list.

    Giraldi says Israel is the “leading corrupter of the democracy in my own country.” I think it’s money. “Free speech” never cost so much (apologies Mitch McConnell). There are too many who sing for their supper. And media hungary for the revenue.

    Back to “tribal” ancestry. Geo, why not look into Ed Royce’s forbears? Tom Cotton’s grandparents? Would that increase their sinister aspect? Amplify their misdeeds?

    M&W make a persuasive case. Love to see Neocons indicted for crimes against peace. They helped immeasurably. But Iraq ‘03 would never have happened without GW Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rummy, Tenant, etc. They had the power, they gave the orders. Crimes against peace and launching aggressive war. All should be indicted and put on trial. I’m not holding my breath.

    Bottom line. If the problem is a corrosive relationship, the question is how to change that so each side regains health. The future is the important thing. How to end the mindless ME conflicts. How to embargo weapons from a region addicted to using them as a first resort. Israel-Gaza, KSA-Yemen, KSA-Iran, etc. I think the Liberty should be remembered and files be made public. But I don’t see how dwelling in the past saves us from an even more toxic future.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  219. @Jim Daniel

    Do you really think that Israel carried out 9/11 and Kennedy’s assassination? Well, I won’t argue those points, since conspiracy theories…

    These are not conspiracy theories; they’re part of a pattern.

  220. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    But Iraq ‘03 would never have happened without GW Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rummy, Tenant, etc. They had the power, they gave the orders.

    Disagree. These names are meaningless to me. Replace them with any other goyim names and the result would have been the same, given the vast amount of funds required to mount a modern-day (re)election campaign. Although lobbying is permitted under the current rules, no one ever expected a lobby for a foreign power would be permitted to subvert the interests of the American people by not having to register under FARA.

    But I don’t see how dwelling in the past saves us from an even more toxic future.

    It’s not so much about dwelling in the past as it is about making people aware of the damage The Lobby has done, is doing, and will continue to do if the Special Relationship is not placed on a more normal footing.

    Bottom line: So, which side are you on Incitatus? Do you believe the SR is doing massive damage to the interests of the American people and should, therefore, be placed on a more normal footing? Or do you believe those of us who call for this rebalancing are “Jew-haters” for doing so, as a few on the other side of the floor have accused us of being?

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Incitatus
  221. @anon

    Thanks for the link to an important story, anon .

    btw, the city, Apollo, is in Pennsylvania, about 90 miles from the Ohio border (and Jim Traficant’s old district). Arlen Specter was the Republican/Democrat senator of Pennsylvania who engineered protection for the president of NUMEC, Zalman Shapiro.

    Last time I researched Shapiro, he was still living in a moderately luxurious condo on the edge of the university district in Pittsburgh, and was head of the local Hillel.

    If you’re Jewish and cheat, steal, pollute and ruin people’s lives and homes to get materials to build nuclear bombs, you get protection and the acclaim of your tribe and a position of leadership among the tribe’s young. Your crimes are whitewashed by fellow Jews who disregard party loyalty (much less national loyalty) to maintain themselves in positions of power and extend that power to protect you: All for the tribe.

    If you’re Iran and use legitimate means including the open support and encouragement of US government to develop nuclear technology, and you subscribe to international treaties controlling use of nuclear technology, then you get attacked, surrounded with US military bases w/ weapons pointing at you; your young scientists get assassinated, and Jews in US Treasury Department bend their efforts to bankrupt your nation.

    • Agree: Miro23
  222. geokat62 says:
    @Jim Daniel

    Do you really think that Israel carried out 9/11…

    Do you really think that Israel had no involvement in 9/11?

  223. Incitatus says:
    @Art

    Art. Dear old Art.

    What can I (Stinky) say?

    You mention me without context. Remember your “Jew parasite, stupid, Little Jew, Pro-Jew, Lemming, [Ir-]rational, liar, brown shirt (?), cute (smile), little one…” mantra? Muttered while proclaiming your ‘Christianity’?

    Well, maybe not. Thunderbird and Night Train Express have a rather lethal affect.

    Thanks for promoting me to a “typical…Jew bottom feeder” and no less – this was a surprise – master of Sam and iffen (“two of Stinky’s puppies in his little pack of Jew attack dogs”). I blush and am all a crimson. Be still, I tell myself, there is pride and seduction in said characterization.

    So here (nobody’s watching are they?) I can only tip my hat to you (nudge, nudge; wink, wink). Don’t worry about table legs. No doubt you’ll master them in short order.

    Best from Stinky.

    • Replies: @Art
  224. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    Best from Stinky.

    Say Stinky,

    You seem happy being a sub-leader in the scatological division of the 15,000,000 employee Hasbara Central (the largest communications company in the world by at least four magnitudes).

    What percentage of the pages in you 100 volume Talmud have turned corners noting scatological references? 50%?

    Are you training your little charges (the puppies – Sam and iffen) to take you place as you move up the tribal chain of command?

    Peace — Art

    Lest you forget some of your best work.

    Stinky Incitatus — #189
    Frankly, you seem progressively unfit for little more than vomiting irrelevant verbal excrement, spreading it exclusively on yourself.

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/palestinians-to-the-woodshed/#respondiffen

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  225. @Sam Shama

    More flowery gibberish from Sam the Sham. No doubt an attempt to conceal the blatant bullshit it adds up to. I’ll take geo’s comments over your own any day and I suspect that most Unz readers would too, excluding your fellow hasbara ladies coffee club members of course.

  226. RobinG says:
    @geokat62

    …………DNC PROPAGANDA BLACKMAILING OF TRUMP…………
    UKRAINE INTERFERENCE in 2016 to BENEFIT CLINTON

    False allegations of Trump-Russian connections not only were effort to steal election, but poisoned US-Russia relations in Trump administration, hence Syria & Iran diplomacy, and thereby obey Israel policy.

    Great journalism by Lee Stranahan. Follow closely the timeline, and smoking-gun email from Alexandra Chalupa. This story is HUGE. Please Tweet it out.

    UNREAL: The real election interference scandal HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT

  227. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    That picture should engender hate in your heart.

    Where is the ascetic philosopher, the spiritual Christian, the one who never fails to remind us that he harbours no hatred in his heart?

    What have you done to him?

    Peace, Love and Harmony – Sam

    We philosophical Christians are sincere about “hate the sin – not the sinner.” We do not follow your “eye for an eye” inferior ancient Jewish dictate.

    You claim to be an American – how can you not hate that picture of Netanyahu holding court in our Capital.

    No other picture in US history can be more illustrative of our decline as a democratic nation.

    It is natural to hate that picture – as philosophical Christians, we do not give away our humanness – using our better emotions, Christian ideals guide us in our next corrective action. Clearly sometimes we fail.

    Peace — Art

    If someone abuses something you love – something that contributes to your wellbeing – something that is part of your identity – and they do this today, and yesterday, and for sure tomorrow – when is it OK to hate them?

  228. Druid says:
    @Dr.Joji Cherian

    A simple repeat of what Jewish money does wherever they go. Germany, Poland, Russia, France pre-revolution, etc

  229. Druid says:
    @anarchyst

    I suspected something like this but never knew. Amazing!

  230. geokat62 says:

    This just in from Peter Beinart, who bc of his willingness to be even-handed is considered by some to be a self-hating Jew . Here are the last 3 paragraphs of his latest article, Why Is One Pro-Israel Group Desperate To Keep You From Watching This Video?:

    These are the kinds of debates that the American Jewish establishment fears. It fears them because such debates give Palestinians a voice. Given the influence that American Jewish groups wield in Washington, it’s far easier to simply deny Palestinians a platform. That’s why The Israel Project ends its video by urging people to call Rep. Mark Pocan, who authorized No Way To Treat a Child to use a room on Capitol Hill, and “demand that he condemn the event.” The goal is to scare members of Congress so they don’t facilitate such discussions again.

    The deep, dark secret of the American Jewish establishment is that its leaders are not equipped to respond to smart Palestinian critics of Israel. They’re not familiar enough with the realities of Palestinian life under Israeli control. So having built itself a cocoon that shuts out Palestinian voices, the American Jewish establishment insists that Congress live inside that cocoon too. Because if the cocoon cracks, American politicians, and the American public, will realize how intellectually weak the American Jewish establishment actually is.

    When it comes to Israel, the organized American Jewish community would rather bully than think. That’s what happens when power corrupts. It doesn’t only make you immoral. It makes you dumb.

    http://forward.com/opinion/375214/why-is-one-pro-israel-group-desperate-to-keep-you-from-watching-this-video/

    Here’s a link to part 1 of the video:

  231. Nastarana says:
    @Joe Franklin

    No Taxation Without Representation!!

    You do remember that sentiment, I suppose?

    Are you proposing that only heterosexual males should pay taxes?

  232. Z-man says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    And by the way, I consider Israel to be one of the greatest threats to world peace and the leading corrupter of the democracy in my own country, which is, by the way, the United States of America. I will continue to speak out Sam. As that apparently causes you pain, maybe you should change your reading habits and avoid Unz.com on Tuesday mornings.

    Priceless.

    • Agree: Rurik, geokat62, chris
  233. Rurik says: • Website
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    Archeology as anti-semitism? Gorblimey, mate, you can’t get much more fake-newsy than shit like that.

    ;)

    as you point out..

    There is no truth from a Zionist.

  234. Varsoni says:

    “I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not but are a synagogue of Satan…” Rev 2:9. We hate what God hates because we love what God loves, but our hate is not infinate, Sam. The dead never forget, never forgive, but God is life and love, and his mercies are new each morning, and his loving kindness is better than life. God save us from the God-men. God save us from the walking dead who never forgive, never forget.

  235. LondonBob says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Interesting factoid about the Liberty and the 67 war. Andrew and Leslie Cockburn in their book DANGEROUS LIAISON The Inside Story of the U.S.-Israeli Covert Relationship quote an NSA source as stating ‘Jim Angleton and the Israelis spent a year cooking up the ’67 war. It was a CIA operation, designed to get Nasser.’ Answers some questions but opens up so many more.

  236. FLgeezer says:

    Wonderful post Varsoni. I pray that our once great, beloved republic be delivered from the heavy hand of the walking dead.

  237. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    “Disagree [Iraq ‘03 would never have happened without GW Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rummy, Tenant, etc]. These names are meaningless to me. Replace them with any other goyim names and the result would have been the same.”

    Really? Show us Neocon, Jewish or Israeli mobilization and attack order(s) conveyed directly to US and UK troops. “Goyim” are mindless automatons? Don’t think so. Each of us is responsible for our action. No escape, no excuse. GW Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rummy, Tenant, etc. gave the orders.

    “the vast amount of funds required to mount a modern-day (re)election…

    Israeli-centric funding, though important in a few races (Cotton, Royce?), is dwarfed by finance, insurance, real estate, defense industry, unions, NEA, NRA, etc. Israel is small change when compared with Dodd-Frank repeal or sustaining the mortgage-interest deduction. The sad fact? When government’s for sale, there’s no shortage of bidders. http://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/summ.php?disp=O

    “It’s not so much about dwelling in the past as it is about making people aware of the damage…”

    Doubt Americans care. Wish they did. Especially having seen refugee camps in Jordan ‘76-81. Some of us spoke out, never loud enough. That ship sailed. Now we’re in a world of “most beautiful” chocolate cake campaign promise reversals and (equally depressing) opposition that whines “deplorables.” Kinda like choosing between ‘Jersey Shore’ and ‘Keeping Up with the Kardasians’ for political leadership. Blessed by unprecedented media profits for vacuous factionalism and inflated controversy.

    With respect Geo, you’re dwelling in the past. You want your pound of flesh. Can’t blame you. Felt much the same way for years. Now? I’d be satisfied with an end to the killing, weapons sales, phoney news, diplomatic pantomime, etc. What’s your vision of the future after the magic ‘rebalancing’? How do you think we’ll get there? I’m all ears.

    “Bottom line: So, which side are you on…?”

    I’m not on any “side.” I believe many US reforms are long overdue:

    • Limit campaign duration to six months;
    • Public campaign funding for candidates qualified by primary, grassroots (petition) support;
    • Ban all private money in politics; No PACs, No dark money;
    • Televised debates for qualified candidates sponsored as a condition of broadcast licenses;
    • Invite new alternatives to the two-faced Rep-Dem party now in power;
    • Full exposure of voting records on a prompt, easily accessed basis;
    • AIPAC and similar lobbyists should register as foreign agents without tax exemptions;
    • Think tanks should lose all tax exemptions (most are lobbyists masquerading as educators);
    • Prohibit all weapons sales in and transshipments to all ME nations;
    • End all free weapons given Israel, Egypt, etc (they’re subsidies to US defense contractors);
    • Support local Syrian refugee safe havens (they are the next generation) and their return to normalcy.

    Suggestions on Israel and the Palestinians – see my 6Sep16 response (#264) to alexander (#248) – http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-obstacle-to-peace/#comment-1555931

    “…do you believe those of us who call for this rebalancing are “Jew-haters”?”

    Not necessarily. Some are. Matters little to me as a Christian (sorry Art). But, then, as a most imperfect Christian, it does matter.

    We’ve discussed this before. Singling out scapegoats from many guilty of similar behavior is a path antithetical. Join a mob and hang your neighbor? Don’t be surprised to end up at the wrong end of a rope.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  238. Hibernian says:
    @Chet Roman

    An anti-semitic campaign would have elected Ossoff, it’s not 1948 anymore.

  239. Incitatus says:
    @Art

    Dear Art,

    I shouldn’t say this, but, as one ages certainty in life becomes more important. You may appreciate this if you’re over 50. If not, well head’s up. You will if you live long enough.

    This is a roundabout way of thanking you for your posts. I am indeed grateful. We seniors love regularity.

    I do have a question. When you say “We philosophical Christians” is that different from ‘We practicing Christians?” Don’t quite get it.

    Sure, you’re clear in your ‘philosophical’ “Jew parasite, stupid, Little Jew, Pro-Jew, Lemming, [Ir-]rational, liar, brown shirt (?), cute (smile), little one…”. I mean, that leaves little doubt, especially with the Mahatma Gandhi “Peace-Art” sign-offs.

    Still, I confess puzzlement. ‘Philosophic Christian’ versus ‘practicing Christian’? No doubt I’m missing something basic. Help me out, Art.

    Best, Stinky.

    • Replies: @Art
  240. Z-man says:
    @Chet Roman

    Some other poser… err I mean poster wrote that Cabalist contributions to political campaigns are insignificant compared to corporate and other special interests. That’s such a load of BS as the influential, in even all those diverse interest groups, are dominated by the chosen ones. And the biggest amount of political money from the chosen ones comes by many other means including substantial amounts from hedge funds and other ‘non governmental entities’ WHICH ARE ALL RUN AND FUNDED BY ‘THEM’!
    Enough already! (Sigh) (Grin)

  241. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    No escape, no excuse. GW Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rummy, Tenant, etc. gave the orders.

    My point is that GW Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rummy, Tenant are akin to the supporting characters Big Tony/Little Tony in the movie Casino Jack and The Lobby is Jack Abramoff, the eminence grise.

    Here’s a previous comment of mine:

    Perhaps an analogy may be useful here. Have you seen the movie Casino Jack? It’s a story about the life of the infamous influence pedlar, Jack Abramoff. IIRC, the movie starts out with a scene where two guys pull up to another car waiting at an intersection and proceed to pump him [the rightful owner of the casino] full of bullets. The two men, named Big Tony and Little Tony were later arrested and served a prison sentence, after being convicted. What we discover a little later is that Jack A and his partner were the ones who had put out the contract for this killing.

    So who would you say bears primary responsibility in this instance: the two schmucks who pulled the trigger, or JA and his partner, who were the eminence grise behind the scenes?

    The same principle applies to the invasion of Iraq. While it’s true that Bush and Cheney ordered the invasion, the neocons/Israel firsters and other members of the Lobby were the real eminence grise behind the scenes.

    It seems to me you prefer to pin the blame on Big Tony/Little Tony, instead of the eminence grise.

    Israel is small change…

    Small change? What say you about these statistics regarding campaign contributions:

    The reason for such intense scrutiny is the outsize contributions of Jewish donors to US political campaigns, with Jewish donors contributing a whopping 50% of funds received by the Democratic Party and 25% to the Republican Party, Troy says.

    http://m.jpost.com/US-Elections/US-Jews-contribute-half-of-all-donations-to-the-Democratic-party-468774

    Or these stats published by the Forward:

    Who the Jewish Billionaires Are Backing for 2016

    A quick look at the list of top political donors for 2014 reveals a striking fact: At least a third of the most generous 50 mega-givers were Jewish. In fact, contributions from Jewish billionaires and multi-millionaires dominated the top 10 spots on the list.

    Striking, yet unsurprising.

    Political activists have known for years that members of the Jewish community are over-represented in the field of political contributions.

    And now, with the 2016 election cycle beginning to warm up, these Jewish donors are on the minds of all prospective candidates.

    The 2014 list represents donors who were active between presidential election cycles. Some gave directly to parties, or candidates, but most of the money went to Super PACs, the main cash vehicle that will oil the wheels of the 2016 presidential campaign.

    On the Democratic side, donors are taking a more relaxed approach. With Hillary Rodham Clinton dominating the field, most donors are saving their cash gifts for the actual presidential race.

    Clinton comes with her own rolodex of major Jewish donors, many of whom funded her 2000 Senate race and her unsuccessful 2008 presidential bid. Haim Saban, the Hollywood cartoon billionaire, is their poster child — a devoted backer who has given millions throughout the years and has become part of the Clintons’ inner circle. Saban is not featured on the top 2014 donor list, but all Democratic activists contacted by the Forward mention his name on the top of their 2016 list.

    But Clinton will also have to win over party donors who backed Barack Obama in his race against her in 2008. Some of them have frowned at her positions as too mainstream for their progressive tastes. Film and music industry mogul David Geffen, for example, took a harsh tone against Clinton during the Obama years, but has now returned to base, promising his unequivocal support.

    For Republicans, the race for donors is in full force, with Jewish political contributors in front row seats.

    Florida Senator Marco Rubio has locked in top Jewish donor Norman Braman, who has reportedly agreed to spend $10-15 million to make sure Rubio is the next GOP presidential candidate. Braman is an example of a new type of Jewish Republican donor, moving from a generous contributor to a mega-donor, one whose early multi-million dollar pledge makes him a top player.

    Other candidates are still hoping to secure support from major funders. All eyes are set on New York hedge fund manager Paul Singer, one of the GOP’s leading contributors who has thrown a fundraiser for Rubio but not yet committed to help him. And, of course, the top prize — Las Vegas casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, who has shown he will use his fortune to support his candidates massively.

    Some megaodonors have already made their mark as top tier contributors, while others, like Home Depot co-founder Bernie Marcus, still on the sidelines, are viewed by party insiders as potentially ready to upgrade their status from “major” to “mega” donor, a move that requires adding at least one zero to their total contributions.

    http://forward.com/news/national/308582/who-the-jewish-billionaires-are-backing-in-2016/

    Small change, indeed.

    With respect Geo, you’re dwelling in the past. You want your pound of flesh.

    After accusing me of living in the past and having shylockian motives, you fail to recognize that I myself have repeatedly provided a number of suggestions to achieve a rebalancing:

    I say people of the US need to take a page from the people of the Phillipines when they exercised “People Power” and marched on the palace of president Ferdinand Marcos demanding his resignation. Or the people of the former soviet republics who rallied together demanding an end to authoritarian rule.

    The American people need to organize a million man march on Washington DC demanding their liberation from Zionist rule.

    And they should all carry placards [demanding their representatives implement] the following proposals for ending Zionist rule:

    1. public money for public elections
    2. all foreign agents must register under FARA
    3. no more wars for Israel
    4. end the occupation, now
    5. the perpetrators of the illegal invasion of Iraq, Libya, and the destruction of Syria must be brought to justice
    6. the perpetrators of torture must be brought to justice
    7. no dual citizens in positions of high office
    8. Israel must become a signatory of the NPT
    9. no more tribute paid to Israel
    10. no more UN vetoes for Israel

    Singling out scapegoats from many guilty of similar behavior is a path antithetical.

    So, Incitatus, do you believe Mearsheimer and Walt were singling out scapegoats in their book, The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy?

    Join a mob and hang your neighbor? Don’t be surprised to end up at the wrong end of a rope.

    I’m talking about rebalancing and you’re talking about lynching. We must be on different wavelengths.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  242. chris says:

    To suggest all those solutions is to realize they will never work. How did we get here in the first place? The only solution is to shut off Frankenstein’s battery pack.

    The constitution written to create a limited government has resulted in the biggest government in the world, the Cyclops is bankrupt and on path to destroy the world.

    What more more do you need for proof?

  243. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    Interesting post, geo. Many issues, complicated subjects.

    “While it’s true that Bush and Cheney ordered the [Iraq ‘03] invasion, the neocons/Israel firsters and other members of the Lobby were the real eminence grise behind the scenes.”

    Bush, Cheney, Rummey, Rice, Tenant et. al. were just dumb trigger men? Bought and paid for under contract? Too many mob movies? Jean Edward Smith’s ‘Bush’ might sway your opinion. GWB genuinely convinced himself it was holy. Coincidence KBR (Cheney’s old firm) walked away from Iraq the biggest winner ($39 billion)?

    Neocons, AIPAC, and Israel were very helpful, but they were also long hopeful someone else (the US) would neuter Iran, Syria, etc. Their experience in Lebanon hadn’t turned out well. Many others sold Iraq ‘02-03. Woolsey, Gingrich, DeLay, Ashcroft, Rice, Cheney, Gingrich, Rice, Falwell, Graham, Robertson, etc. Let alone eager media impresarios of ‘shock and awe.’

    BUT. They didn’t pull the trigger. Nor did most take an oath of office to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.”

    “…who would you say bears primary responsibility…”

    They all do. Neocons for crimes against peace; GW Bush admin for same plus launching aggressive war, torture, etc. Let’s have a million man march for indictments and trials.

    OK. Where are we? Campaign funding – what you might term the contract pay off .

    “… Jewish donors contributing a whopping 50% of funds received by the Democratic Party and 25% to the Republican Party, Troy says

    ”Astonishing! Miss this part of the article:

    “In addition, Troy says despite perceptions that Jews vote for Jewish interests, in particular for Israel’s interests, “American Jews are more pro-choice than pro-Israel when voting.””

    “This does not mean to say they are not pro-Israel, but rather that the intensity of commitment to pro-freedom, liberal ideas is more intense than the commitment to Israel, he says, adding that according to polling data, the overwhelming majority of US Jews do not base their vote on Israeli interests.”

    “Troy also looked at what he describes as “the disproportionate frenzy surrounding the Jewish vote,” when bearing in mind that Jews comprise just 2 percent of the US electorate.”

    “Troy said that in meetings he conducted with Republican officials, they expressed surprise and bewilderment that regardless of the Republican Party’s staunch and even hawkish pro-Israel stances, the large majority of US Jews still vote for the Democratic Party.”

    “But American Jews have remained faithful to their liberal ideology, as reflected by the 78% of the Jewish vote garnered by President Barack Obama in the 2008 election when he defeated strongly pro-Israel Sen. John McCain and the 69% support he took in 2012 against former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, despite accusations against Obama regarding his dealings with Israel during his first term.”
    -http://m.jpost.com/US-Elections/US-Jews-contribute-half-of-all-donations-to-the-Democratic-party-468774

    Remember Mitt raising funds in Jerusalem with casino-mogul Adelson? American Jews didn’t buy it. I also recall reports most US Jews agreed with the Iran Nuclear Deal (JCPOA), putting them at odds with AIPAC, NorPAC, and the other special interest hit-groups.

    You fail to distinguish vibrant differences in the villan you protest. Some might be allies. Why not march on Washington in the name of US Jews betrayed by AIPAC vis-à-vis JCPOA? Look at Tikkun and others.

    “ At least a third of the most generous 50 mega-givers were Jewish. In fact, contributions from Jewish billionaires and multi-millionaires dominated the top 10 spots on the list…”

    Increasing income disparity (the real problem) allows corrupt funding Louis XVI would envy. Let’s do the math. “A third of the most generous 50 mega-givers” = 17 individuals? Most seem to be on record for $10-15 million. Let’s be generious, say $20 million each. That’s $340 million for all Jewish “mega-givers.” A prodigious sum to be sure.

    Know what two (2) Koch Brothers raised? $880 million for 2016. Israel is small change. Sorry.

    Other giving venues? Dark Money $308.7 million in 2012 will probably prove 10 times more for 2016 ($3 billion) when final reports are filed. Soft money – outside spending, no donor disclosure) $183.83 million+. Take a look at Top Dark Money Donors: http://www.opensecrets.org/dark-money/top-donors

    Jewish ‘mega-donors’ proudly market influence. What about those who contribute billions off-record? All thanks to ‘free-speech’ loving SCOTUS? They’re much more problematic (don’t like any of them).

    BTW ‘The Jerusalem Post’ and ‘The Forward’ are hardly dispassionate. No doubt they’d find a prideful Jewish connection to any news story (including good weather). That’s their job. No surprise they overemphasize Jewish influence to their readers. Ha’aretz is a bit better, but nobody’s perfect.

    Agree with many of your 1-10 proposals. I’d amend #3 to ‘No more wars’ (period). Add weapons embargoes (sales and shipments) to the region, to the world. Why no attention to KSA in Yemen, emerging dictatorship in Turkey, etc. Is it only Jews that matter in the UN?

    No mention of income inequity, oligarchy, health care, bank deregulation, meddling abroad, outrageous defense budgets, climate, education. ‘The Lobby’ seems your only concern. Day in, day out.

    “I say people of the US need to take a page from the people of the Phillipines…”

    Ever examine US ‘68 strikes against war? You seem inexpert in protests if you rely on the Phillipines for inspiring Americans. WDGAS.

    I’ll be blunt. Americans pay three times what other first-world nations expend for health care. Millions remain uncovered and untreated. We die earlier, have poorer health metrics, and – nonetheless – our leaders say we are the “best” and are believed. Really expect change? Now the GOP is destroying a terrible bill in the name of an even more terrible bill. Freedom seems the excuse. Freedom to die or go bankrupt. Our president has a lot of experience in the latter (as well as “most beautiful” chocolate cakes).

    And you expect Americans to rise up in the millions against Israeli lobbyists?

    Dream on. I wish it weren’t so.

    “I’m talking about rebalancing and you’re talking about lynching.”

    You’re not talking about “rebalancing.” You’re talking about a “million man march on Washington DC demanding…liberation from Zionist rule.” What then? Think Americans care about $3.8 billion/yr when their abysmal health care costs trillions?. So much that many pay thousands in premiums for coverage (given deductibles) they can’t afford to use? You zero in on AIPAC, M&W, and the lot as the font of all evil. That can lead to lynching.

  244. iffen says:
    @Incitatus

    “But American Jews have remained faithful to their liberal ideology, as reflected by the 78% of the Jewish vote garnered by President Barack Obama …

    Facts can be inconvenient. Here is but one example that shows me that there is no all powerful Jew-matrix. No one disputes that many American Jews are poster children for all things liberal in the US and have been for many years. I am hard pressed to think of a more precious liberal cause than gun control. How does the lobby/Lobby/Jew-matrix stack up against the NRA?

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Incitatus
  245. Miro23 says:
    @Incitatus

    I’ll be blunt. Americans pay three times what other first-world nations expend for health care. Millions remain uncovered and untreated. We die earlier, have poorer health metrics, and – nonetheless – our leaders say we are the “best” and are believed.

    I would generalize this to say that the US is being looted across the board by Special Interests. They manipulate a totally corrupt US Congress with “Campaign funding – what you might term the contract pay off”.

    It’s really the US political class that is to blame. Special Interests will always try to gain political favours, and America’s founders were well aware of it when they framed the Constitution. They retained a healthy local democracy at State level with a minimum of power at the Federal level.

    In this Special Interest free for all, the Jewish Lobby is not alone, but it is the most successful.

    It has managed to gain a permanent control of the FED and integrate it with the Treasury (also under its control) to issue $ trillions of debt in the name of the US public to fund Israel’s ME wars and the Wall St Ponzi scheme. A theft of something like $8 Trillion so far.

    It’s rather like Kurosawa’s film “The Seven Samurai” where bandits arrive every year to loot a village, although in this case the villagers eventually find the cojones to hire some Samurai (professional warriors) to help them defend themselves.

    • Agree: Talha
    • Replies: @Incitatus
  246. lavoisier says: • Website
    @lavoisier

    I would prefer an intelligent response to the manipulation.

  247. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    BUT. They didn’t pull the trigger. Nor did most take an oath of office to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.”

    Jack Abramoff didn’t pull the trigger either… Little Tony/Big Tony did. Had JA not put out a contract on Gus Boulis, he’d still be alive today. That applies to Iraq, too – i.e., had the neocons* not put out a contact on Saddam (and his Bathist regime), he’d still be in power today and there’d be no ISIS.

    * Paul Wolfowitz
    Richard Perle
    Lewis “Scooter” Libby
    Douglas Feith
    Peter Rodman
    Dov Zachkeim
    David Wurmser
    Meyrav Wurmser
    John Hannah
    Elliott Abrams
    Thomas Dine
    William Kristol
    Frank Gaffney
    Eugene Rostow
    Michael Ledeen
    Irving Moskowitz

    They all do. Neocons for crimes against peace; GW Bush admin for same plus launching aggressive war, torture, etc. Let’s have a million man march for indictments and trials.

    Just as Milosevic, leading members of the Bush Adminstration (along with Tony Blair) should be extradited to face war crime charges at a UN tribunal at The Hague. And the neocons shouldn’t be too far behind. They should be prosecuted and, if convicted, locked up in Gitmo, where they can receive the same treatment the Iraqis were treated to at Abu Ghraib.

    You fail to distinguish vibrant differences in the villan you protest. Some might be allies. Why not march on Washington in the name of US Jews betrayed by AIPAC vis-à-vis JCPOA? Look at Tikkun and others.

    Everyone who wishes to lift the Zionist yoke from the US is welcome to participate. Not sure why you think it is otherwise.

    “In addition, Troy says despite perceptions that Jews vote for Jewish interests, in particular for Israel’s interests, “American Jews are more pro-choice than pro-Israel when voting.””

    Oh, a poll says such and such. And after witnessing how successful the pundits were at predicting the results of Brexit and the 2016 presidential election, we all know how reliable polls are. I wonder how some of our leading Zionists here at Unz would respond to some of these questions. I’m sure they wouldn’t distort their answers.

    Know what two (2) Koch Brothers raised? $880 million for 2016. Israel is small change. Sorry.

    Could you tell us which regimes the Koch brothers* lobbied the USG to change? Are they dual citizens who are keen to enhance the security of a foreign power at the expense of the American people?

    * btw, I did a quick search of the Kock surname and here’s one of the results that came back from Ancestry.ca:

    Koch Name Meaning

    German and Jewish (Ashkenazic): occupational name from Middle High German koch, German Koch ‘cook’ (cognate with Latin coquus). The name in this sense is widespread throughout eastern and central Europe, and is also well established in Denmark. Czech and Slovak: from a pet form of any of several medieval personal names beginning with Ko-, for example Kochan, Kocián, Kojata, and Kosmas. Polish: nickname from kochac ‘to love’ (see Kochan).

    https://www.ancestry.ca/name-origin?surname=koch

    BTW ‘The Jerusalem Post’ and ‘The Forward’ are hardly dispassionate. No doubt they’d find a prideful Jewish connection to any news story (including good weather). That’s their job. No surprise they overemphasize Jewish influence to their readers. Ha’aretz is a bit better, but nobody’s perfect.

    I expected getting criticized for citing non-kosher sources, but I have to admit, I never expected to get criticized for citing kosher ones.

    No mention of income inequity, oligarchy, health care, bank deregulation, meddling abroad, outrageous defense budgets, climate, education. ‘The Lobby’ seems your only concern. Day in, day out.

    I always get this criticism. Here’s my rationale: while both are obviously important, I put foreign policy ahead of domestic policy for one simple reason, foreign policy leads directly to the deaths of a large number of innocent people. Look at what the phony GWOT has wrought. Thanks to the neocons at PNAC and other members of The Lobby, the gates of hell have been opened and the dogs of war have been released in MENA. Over a million people have been killed (most of whom were innocent civilians) at a cost of $6 T to the American taxpayer.

    I’ll be blunt. Americans pay three times what other first-world nations expend for health care…
    And you expect Americans to rise up in the millions against Israeli lobbyists?

    Put an end to the phony GWOT that is actually making citizens of the West less safe not more safe (as Jeremy Corban stated in his pre-election speeches) and the money ($6 T and counting) could be redirected to this and all of the important issues you’ve noted.

    You zero in on AIPAC, M&W, and the lot as the font of all evil. That can lead to lynching.

    I zero in on AIPAC because they are the ones who are pushing for the continuation of the phony GWOT that is making citizens of the West less safe, but citizens of the Jewish state more safe. And here is the key piece of evidence they themselves have disclosed for their motivations:

    Senator McGovern is very sincere when he says that he will try to cut the military budget by 30%. And this is to drive a knife in the heart of Israel… Jews don’t like big military budgets. But it is now an interest of the Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the United States… American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel. – Irving Kristol

    As for lynchings, when I first started posting comments here at Unz a few years back I came across an ardent Zionist who would invariably attack Phil’s articles. She claimed that she was an anti anti-Zionist and that her mission was to combat anti-semitism. I warned her that if she was truly fighting antisemitism she should be joining forces with those of us who wanted to see the Special Relationship restored to a more normal footing. That is what is motivating those of us who speak out against the machinations of The Lobby. But I’m afraid we’re destined to be modern-day Cassandras: no one will heed are warnings, until it’s too late.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Incitatus
  248. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    Hi Incitatus,
    A deeply informative and thoughtful post, one which in (less incisive) versions I have in the past, offered in attempts to inspire rational discussion; but such was not to be.

    I see this attitude displayed here more often than not. It has been decided by Geokat and others that Jewish lobbies form the critical pillars which if ‘rebalanced’ – in their words – will cure society of all its afflictions. I wish it were so.

    The article which Geo linked to, and which you read through so patiently ( :-) something I confess I don’t anymore; more than a year’s worth of incessant replay of the same tropes, etc. etc) proved critical insofar as the present discussion is concerned. It notes the liberal biases of the Jewish population, never exclusively – far from it – driven by Israel-centric issues. I note in context I have been involved in persuading my fellow congregants to consider withdrawing from AIPAC, which I reckon would do rather well to curtail its faux triumphalist displays; it does no good. It is as you hint, a bit of Jewish drama. Nevertheless, I do agree, organisations like AIPAC should be required to undergo greater scrutiny. Registration under FARA is fair. Yet it should be applied to all such organisations, serving the interests of a myriad of foreign nations. I think the results would be interesting. I can imagine the behind the scenes protest from at least 10 nations, few of them as visible as AIPAC but their commercial interests dwarfing those of Israel’s. Still, I say bring it on!

    It is money, of course, which is at the root of all wisdom. Geo and his fellow travellers would do well to attempt a serious study of how the global economy works; its size, its dynamic flows [trade flows but more importantly inter-industry domestic flows]; its principal actors; its principal insurers; its principal laws and regulations. And, yes its monetary mechanism. I study these things as part and parcel of my business. Daily. I think the sums we are dealing with are so vast that heads might spin, or not at all: it goes to my earlier Chesterton paraphrase “Discernment then strikes. When you see your home and garden from a distant peak, [...] but merely part of a vastly greater form on which you had always lived, but which was too large and too close to be seen.“.

    Take Dodd-Frank, which you mentioned previously. On the surface, it is a set of regulations intended to protect the consumer, limit speculative trading by commercial banks and with Basel, set the capital requirements for major banking institutions. Why is the banking lobby so resistant to this law? To be sure it curtails their ability to take proprietary risks, but the far vaster undercover opposition and recalcitrance comes from major sector lobbies, which shall have none of it. It’s jostling for percentages of the 70-82% of the American (and global economy). Which industries are these, using banking as a proxy? The answer, of course, is in plain view. Which industries and companies do Americans and others spend their dollars on? What are the largest and second largest constituents of government spending? You know the ones on which we spend more money than anyone else per capita?

    If one believes re-balancing AIPAC will change what is essentially the process which turns the global mill, one is then in for a rude awakening. It will require nothing less than a collective decision to change the very philosophy of how Western man (which includes Eastern man), wishes to conduct his life and aspirations.

    Finally a word about the Fed and modern banking. Those constantly asking for this or that be done to the Fed, “Rothschild”, etc. etc. I submit, have no idea what it is precisely they want, or what central banking is all about. They have no alternative proposal or the ones valiantly offered amount to little more than liquidationist nonsense bound to be rejected when the consequences dawn upon the proponents.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
    , @Incitatus
  249. geokat62 says:
    @geokat62

    I almost forgot to include this exchange b/w Joe Klein and Jeffrey Goldberg that illustrates the significance of this issue.

    Here are a couple of excerpts:

    JK:Listen, people can vote whichever way they want, for whatever reason they want. I just don’t want to see policy makers who make decisions on the basis of whether American policy will benefit Israel or not. In some cases, you want to provide protection for Israel certainly, but you don’t want to go to war with Iran. When Jennifer Rubin or Abe Foxman calls me antisemitic, they’re wrong. I am anti-neoconservative. I think these people are following very perversely extremist policies and I really did believe that it was time for mainstream Jews to stand up and say, “They don’t represent us, they don’t represent Israel.”…

    JG: Do you believe that neoconservatives generally act in Israel’s best interest, rather than America’s?

    JK: I’m not saying that they don’t think it’s also in America’s best interest. But Israel’s best interests are in their mind and they’re doing things, they’re encouraging policies that are violent and potentially disastrous for the American people. There’s this great book coming out called “In a Time of War,” about the West Point class of 2002, and you know, you read something like this and you want throttle Doug Feith, you just want to whoop him upside the head.

    https://www.theatlantic.com…

    But I forgot, JK must be a Jew-hater for acknowledging this.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  250. @geokat62

    And here’s an article that just came across the wire. Kushner and Greenblatt present to Abbas Netanyahu’s demands as a starting point for negotiations. Nice.

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-pull-middle-east-peace-105013341.html

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Art
  251. Z-man says:
    @iffen

    Oh please let me take this one, pleeeaase. LOL

    Facts can be inconvenient. Here is but one example that shows me that there is no all powerful Jew-matrix. No one disputes that many American Jews are poster children for all things liberal in the US and have been for many years. I am hard pressed to think of a more precious liberal cause than gun control. How does the lobby/Lobby/Jew-matrix stack up against the NRA?

    Gun control is a talking point but the rich Jews no matter what their stripes could care less about gun control and probably own some of the manufacturers, lol.
    …otherwise, most Jews in power no matter what their ‘political stripes’ could care less about Christian morals, as they corrupt them I mean, and only care to spill American blood and treasure to protect that dirty little country that has transformed the Holy Land into Hell.
    Again, you only have to look at the way they bowed to Netanyahu (Satan) in the joint session of our Congress a few years ago to see that your argument is mute. Ahh if Obummer had any balls back then…err.. there I go again, what am I saying (as I slap my forehead) lol.

  252. geokat62 says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    “They sounded like Netanyahu’s advisers and not like fair arbiters,” a senior Palestinian official told the publication.

    Very much in keeping with past tradition, as Dennis Ross was viewed as “Israel’s lawyer.”

  253. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    Hey Stinky,

    Nice cut and paste hasbara boilerplate – 1,100 words of BS proving that Jews do not control 100% of the US governments foreign policy.

    Of course, you are right, it is not 100% – it is 95% of all the important things.

    It is said that one picture is worth a 1,000 words – will that picture at the top of this article counters a billion trillion words. It puts the lie to all your winy victimization screeds.

    But that doesn’t stop you three (Stinky, iffen, and Sam) boys from repeating your big lies. We know you all will get in our face’s and just lie and lie and lie.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. As proud members of the 15,000,000 strong Hasbara Central propaganda enterprise – how is it, that within 24 hours, you’ll can be telling that same lie. Surly there must be some defective biological trait involved. Must humans cherish their individuality – but not the Jews. Most of Western humanity has moved on from their zero-sum tribal beginnings, into a live and let live mode of being – but not the Jew.

    p.s. It must be horrible to be a Jew – always living on the edge, always having to defend the indefensible – never knowing peace.

  254. Art says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Ronald Reagan said, “when he saw a pile of horse manure, he would tear into it because he knew there had to be a pony.”

    Everyone in the world but Donald Trump knows there is NO pony in the pile of horse manure call Israel. I believe that Trump is sincere in his quest for a resolution to the Palestine quagmire.

    Netanyahu will NEVER let a Palestinian state exist – period. The Israeli people voted “NO to peace” in the last election. The Kushner extended family are rabid Zionists – they themselves do not want a Palestinian state. This charade is mindboggling.

    At the end of Clinton reign – he tried to do a peace thing with the Palestinians and Israelis – the Palestinians reluctantly went along with it. They knew that when it failed, that they would shoulder the blame by the Jew media. Of course, that is what happened.

    The Israelis always put in killer preconditions – that is what is happening now. We all know who is going to take the blame from the Jew MSM.

    Trump’s “we can accomplish anything mindset” is going against the Zionist Jews – something has to give.

    Trump is now giving the Jews what they want in Syria (its breakup) – but they will give him nothing back. When is he going to figure this out, and what is going to happen?

    Peace — Art

  255. Nothing changes. This iron grip on the USA by Israel has been going on ever since 1947. If you can bomb, strafe and torpedo an unarmed US Navy ship in international waters, jam its radio transmissions, get a Navy rescue flight from a carrier turned back on demand and then explain away the whole thing as an accident, when it was painfully obvious that you were attacking a US Navy ship with a giant US flag and big block registry numbers AGTR-5 clearly visible…..then you certainly have a nation by its balls.

    I am sick of Tel Aviv running our foreign policy and then calling anyone who questions them “anti-semitic.” Trump is such a wimp that he won’t stand up for America like he pretends to. What a chump. Only JFK stood up.

    • Agree: Z-man
  256. Art says:

    18 Israeli Fighter Jets Landed in Saudi Arabia to Prevent Coup

    Saudi King Salman bin Abdulaziz announced on Wednesday his decision to replace Crown Prince Mohammed bin Nayef bin Abdulaziz with his own son, Mohammed bin Salman.
    After the decision was announced, the Israeli air force sent 18 of its fighter jets, including F16I, F15CD and F16CD, along with two Gulfstream aircraft, two tanker airplanes and two C130 planes, special for electronic warfare, to Saudi Arabia at the demand of the new crown prince bin Salman to block his cousin (bin Nayef)’s possible measures.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/18-israeli-fighter-jets-landed-in-saudi-arabia-to-prevent-coup/5595993

    Oh dear — Trump goes to Saudi and does a sword dance – and now Israeli fighter jets are propping up the Saudi King – what the hell!

    The king installed is son as the next ruler, ahead of many others. The 13,000 other Saudi family members are pissed – so the Jews come to the rescue of the Arab king!

    JEWS OCCUPY SAUDI HOLY SITES! (Not – but almost.) What do the worlds Muslims think about that?

    Thanks US Jew neocons – this is NOT good for world peace and stability?

    Peace — Art

    p.s. The 15,000,000 strong Hasbara Central cabal has been lying about hating all Arabs – they like the rich ones who bank with the Jew Rothschild central bank cartel.

    p.s. Hmm – what is going to happen to Qatar?

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Art
  257. Incitatus says:
    @iffen

    “…there is no all powerful Jew-matrix.”

    Don’t think there’s any all powerful [fill-in-the-blank] matrix. Deep State or any other nonsense. That’s unpopular here, but there you have it. Put me down as a skeptical Promethean.

    None of us are monochromatic. Classification by accidents of birth is abhorrent if it robs an individual of success or – equally – absolves crimes. Simple as that.

    We all end up compost. Our individual contribution to the common good (‘commonwealth’) is our legacy. Best make it count.

    PS. Raised on a rural farm (my father’s hobby). Learned firearms from age eight. Pistols and revolvers slightly older. Nothing holy or nefarious about them. People who demonize or embrace them as if they’re the second coming? Well, It’s a nice living vomiting BS to the media pro or con.

    • Replies: @Art
  258. Incitatus says:
    @Miro23

    “…the US is being looted across the board by Special Interests. They manipulate a totally corrupt US Congress with “Campaign funding – what you might term the contract pay off”

    Congress itself has become a self-perpetuating special interest.

    Campaign funding is one source of corruption. The real payoff for elected officials and their staffs is the ‘revolving door.’ Pass from public service to ridiculously overpaid positions as spokesmen or lobbyists. Then back to elected status or cabinet posts. Phil Gramm and wife (Lady Macbeth) Wendy, Chris Dodd, Rubin, Larry Summers, etc. Even retired flag officers drawing respectable pensions sit on defense boards and star as cable infotainment experts (usually advocating force and more defense spending). It’s become a way of life for far too many.

    Take 52-year old Trey Gowdy of SC, the GOP’s Inspector Javert. Under special statute (SC lawyers and judges only) he obtained a pension he otherwise didn’t qualify for at age 46. His mouth, usually denouncing dependance on government, socialism, welfare, (etc.) has since also fully engaged the SC government tit. Seems a $175k congressional salary isn’t enough. Surely he is destined for greater things as a corporate VP, spokesman or lobbyist – but why wait?

    Concentration of these narrow interests seems unprecedented (Imperial Rome?). Bail outs. Brazen over-funded incompetence (e.g. F-35, Littoral combat ship). Robbery is patriotic, a Kafkaesque joke. Payable by future generations.

    “It’s really the US political class that is to blame.”

    I’d add the rest of the corrupt closed circle who benefit. Politicians, staff, corporations (increasingly feudal), lobbyists, ‘think-tank’ scholars, pollsters, advertisers, op-ed writers, academics, and – of course – the media (big winners).

    The ubiquitous exercise has become a refined game of manipulative info/entertainment. Reality TV with intellectual value equal to slowing down to count fatalities in a road accident.

    “The Seven Samurai.”

    Wonderful film. Confess I even like the derivative ‘60 ‘Magnificent Seven.’

    • Replies: @Z-man
  259. iffen says:

    * btw, I did a quick search of the Kock surname

    Can’t undo the Jew!

    I found somebody whose grandmother had an unusual surname.

    I found a Jew who said yada, yada, yada.

    And these people try to pass themselves off as educated, thinking and rational individuals.

    Maybe you should search for the Koch surname. You might find the Protocols on golden tablets.

  260. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    “…there is no all powerful Jew-matrix.”

    Don’t think there’s any all powerful [fill-in-the-blank] matrix. Deep State or any other nonsense.

    The 15,000,000 Jew matrix is real and it is in charge – just look at that fiendish picture at the top of this article.

    The Jew leader of the 15,000,000, trashing our president, and 29 times he gets a standing-o from our elected officials.

    Who are they working for — clearly not America – clearly it is the Jew matrix.

    It is the Jews who own the media that are leading the way to Jew power. They suppress free speech by not printing truthful things about Jews and Israel. The suppress free speech by threatening every media worker with the loss of their livelihood.

    You are the nemesis of good and peace. Save America – down with the Jew matrix.

    Peace — Art

  261. Z-man says:
    @Incitatus

    Take 52-year old Trey Gowdy of SC, the GOP’s Inspector Javert. Under special statute (SC lawyers and judges only) he obtained a pension he otherwise didn’t qualify for at age 46. His mouth, usually denouncing dependance on government, socialism, welfare, (etc.) has since also fully engaged the SC government tit. Seems a $175k congressional salary isn’t enough. Surely he is destined for greater things as a corporate VP, spokesman or lobbyist – but why wait?

    Isn’t he the weirdest looking guy you’ve ever seen with that pointy hair cut and pasty face, lol. 52?, good I thought he was younger!

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Incitatus
  262. Z-man says:
    @Art

    ’18 Israeli Jets in Saudi’

    Even I find that hard to believe but that young prince Mohammed bin Salman is definitely someone not qualified by age, actions he’s taken and by his ‘idiot savant’ looks. Concerning.

    • Replies: @Art
  263. Art says:
    @Z-man

    ’18 Israeli Jets in Saudi’

    Z-Man — this is the biggest story sense 9/11.

    Jew war planes backing up Saudi Kings.

    It is only in the alternative media. It is not on the Jew MSM. The 15,000,000 person Jew Hasbara Matrix – has shut it down for now.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. 10 to 1 the Pentagon parking lot is full.

  264. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    “…had the neocons not put out a contact on Saddam (and his Bathist regime), he’d still be in power today and there’d be no ISIS.”

    Respectfully disagree. We’ve been through this before. Go your way, I’ll go mine.

    Neocons helped an administration convince itself a lethal demonstration of force (‘shock and awe’) would cower ME countries into timid subservience. The motive – most important – was to salvage the honor of an incompetent administration rudely awakened after nine short slumberous months of cronyism.

    Bush decided to invade by midsummer ‘02 (Downing Street Memo). Well before the neocon full-court media press and the rest of their nonsense.

    “btw, I did a quick search of the Kock surname and here’s one of the results that came back from Ancestry..”

    Another Ros-Lehtinen (damned by Jewish DNA) moment? Like her, Koch brothers are automaton conspirators dedicated to undermining the world?

    Ancestry.com is a joke to any serious genealogist. Eliminate abundant misinformation and it can be helpful for three generations. Max. Have actual Koch marriage records generation-by-generation? Let’s say eight generations? Try The Foundation for Medieval Genealogy if you can make it back 30 generations or so. Geneanet may help.

    “Could you tell us which regimes the Koch brothers* lobbied the USG to change? Are they dual citizens who are keen to enhance the security of a foreign power at the expense of the American people?”

    Kochs by all accounts are episcopalians of Dutch origin, staunch libertarian conservatives, and mega donors to MIT. Their current concern is the GOP Senate healthcare bill, felt insufficiently conservative. 60% of seniors in nursing homes are on Medicaid. Many (all?) would be dumped by the GOP Senate bill. But surely libertarians would sleep better, and that’s the whole point, isn’t it? Aside from more tax cuts?

    Want Americans to march against the “Zionist yoke’ as their parents and grandparents are turned out of nursing homes?”GFL!

    “I expected getting criticized for citing non-kosher sources, but I have to admit, I never expected to get criticized for citing kosher ones.”

    Mentioning source viewpoint is criticism? Thin skin? You don’t refute the point.

    “I zero in on AIPAC because they are the ones who are pushing for the continuation of the phony GWOT that is making citizens of the West less safe, but citizens of the Jewish state more safe.”

    The GWOT makes a lot of American firms rich. KBR: $39 billion in Iraq. Name an Israeli firm that’s done as well. Disagree it necessarily makes Israel safe. Long term security often being very different from short term safety (and profits). But I can be wrong. Tell us how Israel alone is behind the war, how it manipulates all the dynamics.

    Neocon godfather Irving Kristol?. You missed his best quote:

    “With the end of the Cold War, what we really need is an obvious ideological and threatening enemy, one worthy of our mettle, one that can unite us in opposition.”
    -Irving Kristol 1996 (no need to thank me)

    “As for lynchings …”

    Geo, you “zero in on AIPAC” (Jews) relentlessly, regardless of article themes. Challenged, you cite Cassandra and squeal like a martyr. Been 50 years since I read my classics, but the tragic role you embrace seems a giant waste of time. Don’t get me wrong. Berliotz’s ‘Les Troyens’ is a genuine favorite (wonderful opus). But it’s a tragic tale, isn’t it?

    Want to change opinions and the future? Give your points universal context (it’s not just Jews is it?). Mind the concerns of those you hope to influence (currently about to lose basic healthcare). Would it hurt?

    Just my opinion.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  265. RobinG says:
    @Z-man

    Trey Gowdy may not be your cup of tea (or mine) but nobody’s all good or all bad. Trey did a fantastic job in the “Russia probe” hearing:

    “No Evidence Of Trump Collusion With Russia” Trey Gowdy Destroys Jeh Johnson

  266. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Sam,

    I responding chonologically and, laboring over all (I’m a terrible author), only now reach your important post. I’ve thought about it over the day. But need time for an intellegent response. Stay tuned.

    Best

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  267. […] worst best-kept secrets that – the nuclear agreement aside — Iran remains a high priority on the ‘to do’ list for the Regime Renovators. (See also here, here, and here.) In addition to the relentless […]

  268. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    I’m a terrible author…..

    If sparkling wit and prose make a terrible author…….:-) .

    I await, no rush,

  269. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    Neocons helped an administration convince itself a lethal demonstration of force (‘shock and awe’) would cower ME countries into timid subservience. The motive – most important – was to salvage the honor of an incompetent administration rudely awakened after nine short slumberous months of cronyism.

    Bush decided to invade by midsummer ‘02 (Downing Street Memo). Well before the neocon full-court media press and the rest of their nonsense.

    There is a lot of truth to what you say. But your analysis misses one critical element: the criteria for selecting the targeted countries. They could have invaded Granada, Panama, or Haiti if they simply wanted to flex their muscles. Or if they wanted to go beyond Afghanistan in the region, they could have targeted Egypt, Turkey, or Jordon. Instead they targeted Iraq, Libya, and Syria. And they’ll target Iran, next. I wonder what these countries have in common?

    Another Ros-Lehtinen (damned by Jewish DNA) moment? Like her, Koch brothers are automaton conspirators dedicated to undermining the world?

    I’ve taken to heart Cynthia McKinney’s admonition: “you’ve got to know who’s who in the zoo.”

    Ever since, I’ve always researched an individual’s background to see if they may have an ulterior motive for saying what they say.

    Want Americans to march against the “Zionist yoke’ as their parents and grandparents are turned out of nursing homes?”GFL!

    No luck needed. I think it’s fairly simple to draw a direct line between the trillions spent on the phony GWOT and parents and grand parents being turned out of nursing homes, due to a lack of funds.

    The GWOT makes a lot of American firms rich. KBR: $39 billion in Iraq. Name an Israeli firm that’s done as well.

    While many firms have, indeed, benefited (Halliburton, all the leading merchants of death) this was a by product of the primary motivation of the Israel-firsters who were determined to enhance the security of the villa in the jungle. Whether the phony GWOT will actually accomplish this in the long run is an open question. But there is no doubt about their motivation (have you read PNAC’s A Clean Break and/or Oded Yinon’s A Strategy for Israel in the 1980s?).

    Been 50 years since I read my classics, but the tragic role you embrace seems a giant waste of time… Want to change opinions and the future?

    I’m a patient man. As long as trillions are being diverted from the US treasury and gallons of blood are being spilled in MENA, I will speak out. As I’ve pointed out to others here, domestic policy and foreign policy are inextricably linked. If you spend trillions on the phony GWOT, you won’t have trillions to spend on health care and education… pretty simple equation, no?

    P.S. I believe you recently disclosed (to Art) that you’re a Christian. You wouldn’t happen to be a Christian of the evangelical variety, would ‘ya?

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Incitatus
  270. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    You wouldn’t happen to be a Christian of the evangelical variety, would ‘ya?

    Now, now, we all know that there is no validity to that old birds of a feather adage, right?

  271. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Sam, sorry for the delay.

    “…persuading my fellow congregants to consider withdrawing from AIPAC, which I reckon would do rather well to curtail its faux triumphalist displays…”

    The sentiment of American Jews seems often unsupportive or even contrary to the shriller rhetoric of groups like AIPAC. Never more than in the frantic scramble to kill the Iran deal. But it’s natural to minimize such differences, keeping them interfamily, rather than sever ties and lose input and influence. Works the same with most organizations and constituents.

    “Registration under FARA is fair. Yet it should be applied to all such organisations…”

    Agree. All of them. Think tanks (all viewpoints) should lose tax exemptions. Why should we subsidize them? They’re lobbyists, not degree-granting educational institutions.

    “It is money, of course, which is at the root of all wisdom…”

    Hope you’re cynical or ironic. The Duke of Westminister (if still the largest landholder) is the smartest guy in London? He’s a nice guy, but doubt it.

    Money’s simply a commodity, a symbol of volatile confidence. Don’t get me wrong. It’s important to earn your own and have enough to be independent. For me? Time is much more important (apologies Napoléon). Take care to use it wisely.

    Money, given levels of excess current, seems more how oligarchs keep score. Am I worth more than my rivals and friends? DJT is an example, given legendary battles with Forbes annual wealth parade. For same, money’s also proof of divine favor for activity squalid or immoral. With rewards beyond anything decently conceivable a generation ago.

    Seems a new feudalism infects the world. My opinion.

    “Why is the banking lobby so resistant to this law [Dodd-Frank]?

    Because they can object? Justifies corporate lobbyist paychecks and officers who hire them? Nurtures Type-A egos (geniuses until they need a bailout)? Makes them feel powerful? Beats me.

    You’d think everyone wants a fair, level playing field. I’m reminded, however, of piracy. An abominable pursuit, but not infrequently franchised (privateering) by states in a clearly antithetical relationship. Now it tends to be financial, obscured from public view. Puerto Rico comes to mind. South America? A US mega-contributor buys foreign bonds pennies on the dollar, puts the issuer on the dock in US court and threatens their national solvency?

    Ever study the 80-90s Savings and Loan Crisis? FDIC used as a piggy bank for RE gambling and outright fraud? Called ‘entrepreneurialism’ in polite circles. Mentioning ‘entrepreneur’ now makes me reach for my wallet to assure security.

    How about Enron exemptions (outsourcing failed ventures off-book) granted by Wendy Gramm, who then became a well-paid Enron director (until it imploded).

    You know much more about the factors in play:
    • Concentration of wealth and leverage;
    • Debt retailing (education, health care, RE, auto, consumption) – Indentured servitude anew;
    • Narrow political dominance near feudalism;
    • Carte blanche for any new harebrained financial trading scheme – it’ ‘entrepreneurial’;

    A rant inexpert. But tell me, Sam, with all the corrections and additions you can make – the modern economic system – is it sustainable? That’s the important thing, isn’t it? Will we all die painlessly sleeping in bed? OK, I’m not asking for that. I’m asking if we’ll all still have beds.

    “….I think the sums we are dealing with are so vast that heads might spin…”

    Unquestionably. Developing new, accessible markets has led to immense leverage and wealth (Gates). Six Walton heirs (nice blokes) possess more wealth ($150 billion+) than the GDP of many nations. Maybe it’s time for serious thinking. Especially when they likely pay a smaller percentage of income than American hourly laborers? Mitt Romney was a wake-up call. 13.9% on $59,000 daily income (365 days/yr). The same rate as a $35,000 per year day laborer? What did Mitt want if elected? 25% tax cuts. Art Laffer, one of the prime charlatans of modern times, redux. Too late in the game, Gov. Brownback might warn otherwise. Kansas already made their opinion clear.

    Swirling in my mind is the phrase ‘common interest.’ Colonies of Virginia and Massachusetts were founded as ‘commonwealths.’ The idea that common interest benefits each and all equally if you play the game right. Had a lot to do with posterity. Their (our) children. Have we lost our way?

    “Those constantly asking for this or that be done to the Fed, “Rothschild”, etc. etc..”

    Cri de cœurs that most often fall into two categories. Libertarians (usually trumpeting Ayn Rand and the Austrian School) and those who simply want to tie all mystery and malady to the Rothschilds – i.e. the Jews. The latter category waxes often on UNZ, usually shrouding rhetoric in pregnant phrases just short of showing their hand. No doubt an important ritual for them, kinda like donning white robes and hood and burning a few crosses.

    The former, Rand Paul etc, seem to cry ‘Audit the Fed.’ Have no objection, but don’t expect any devilish magic exposed. After reading Greider’s ‘Secrets of the Temple’ in the early 90s. Memory’s dim, but it was provocative, not salacious.

    Libertarians seem to believe there’s a utopian natural state ruled by noble savages that will shower wealth, value, virtue and moral prosperity on all pissants once all oversight and regulation is eliminated. Free markets will self police. Ayn Rand is a good read at 14. Still believe her at 20? Seek professional help (and get a life).

    And now, as Python might say, for something completely different. Seems DJT’s alienated British hearts with his all-knowing opportunism after recent terrorist attacks. There’s a grass roots campaign to express displeasure: “ShowYourRumpToTrump.” Never been prouder of Brits!

    Best.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Sam Shama
  272. Art says:
    @Art

    18 Israeli Fighter Jets Landed in Saudi Arabia to Prevent Coup

    Sorry – this story must be “fake news.”

    There is nothing in the Jew MSM.

    My apologies.

    Peace — Art

  273. Incitatus says:
    @Z-man

    “Isn’t he the weirdest looking guy you’ve ever seen with that pointy hair cut and pasty face, lol. 52?, good I thought he was younger!”

    Alas, also thought he was younger. Seems only yesterday he bought his pension at 46. Wikapedia says he’s 52. Go figure! I feel a lot older.

    Appearances? ‘Toehead’ is, I believe the appropriate description. Think of him as an adult, blond Opie Taylor with juvenile hair intact. “Weird” is one way to describe it.

    • Replies: @iffen
  274. iffen says:
    @Incitatus

    Never more than in the frantic scramble to kill the Iran deal.

    I didn’t understand how the deal could have been approved if the Jew-matrix was opposed. It’s almost like Geo and his fellow travelers are incorrect in their assumptions.

  275. iffen says:
    @Incitatus

    Appearances? ‘Toehead’ is, I believe the appropriate description.

    The tow in towhead and tow sack refers to the color.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  276. […] recommends other articles by Global Research, and The Unz Review where this article originally […]

  277. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    “…the criteria for selecting the targeted countries. They could have invaded Granada, Panama, or Haiti if they simply wanted to flex their muscles. Or if they wanted to go beyond Afghanistan in the region, they could have targeted Egypt, Turkey, or Jordon. Instead they targeted Iraq, Libya, and Syria.’

    Iraq was long defiant, unmuted and unbowed by US-UN sanctions. A symbol of rebellion against ‘New World Order.’ A thorn in American (Bush family) prestige. Normalization loomed in ‘02 as UNSC support slipped. Oil and trade beckoned. Given recent history, US firms were unlikely welcome.

    Saddam was problematic. Survivor of intrigue and deepest demonization (some justified). Unloved. Except by Palestinians gratified by rewards paid suicide bomber families. His blustery rhetoric and call to quote oil in euros were seditious heresy. Lèse-majesté. Allowed to survive, his popularity could wax, a crack in the superpower dam.

    Iraq (the venue) offered great potential for object-lesson publicity of humbling ‘shock-and-awe.’ Afghanistan is difficult, much more rural. Fewer candidates for target-cam footage for the the 6:30 US news. Blowing-up sheep pens, mud huts and poppy fields isn’t very convincing when you can level telephone (“command-control”) complexes, bridges, and semi-western infrastructure.

    All faithfully reported by subservient media granted access if they magnified ‘mushroom cloud’, ‘immanent threat’ and the other nonsense. Easier to “embed” them in Iraq than wild Afghanistan.

    Summary. Iraq’s military was known negligible. Risk reasonable. Iraq had few friends, Saddam fewer. His survival threated to contradict ‘axis of evil’ rhetoric spun by GW Bush as a fig leaf covering his nine-month incompetent slumber.

    Best part? The Pentagon would pass out contracts (cost-plus) exclusively to approved contractors (US and ‘allies’). We’d expend a lot of ordinance, stimulate profitable restocking and new weapons development. Allies will feed at the same trough, all off budget for future Americans to pay. Those disloyal (France, Germany, etc) will be scourged by US media and lose all commercial prospects in new Iraq. What’s not to like?

    Libya? Very different from Iraq. Syria as well. Lot to criticize in each, but not the perfect storm (crime) of Iraq ‘02-03.

    “But there is no doubt about their [Israel-firsters] motivation (have you read PNAC’s A Clean Break and/or Oded Yinon’s A Strategy for Israel in the 1980s?”

    I have indeed. ‘A Clean Break’ was written ‘96 by Perle, Feith and Wurmser to influence Netanyahu. He passed. PNAC was formed by Kristol and Kagan a year later (‘97). The two, perhaps sympathetic in views, are not related. You should look at the ‘98 Iraq Liberation Act, hard-press lobbying by many of the same actors. Extracted from Clinton under siege for nitwit stupidity. Ahmed Chalabi, a notorious felon in the Arab world, and his INC was their proxy. Turned out he wasn’t as influential or loyal as hoped.

    Oded Yinon, a journalist, wrote his ‘plan’ Feb ‘82, months before the Lebanon War. It’s criminal conspiracy, Orwell incarnate. Is it official policy?

    “As long as trillions are being diverted from the US treasury…I will speak out. As I’ve pointed out to others here, domestic policy and foreign policy are inextricably linked”

    Geo, by all means continue to speak out. I’ve no quarrel with that. I may disagree with what you say. No doubt you say the same. Differ with your sole-source attribution of responsibility to Israel, the ‘Lobby, and all that. Numbers tell the story. American multinationals had the best meal in Iraq. Israel’s $3.8 billion annual grant is redeemed exclusively by American defense firms.

    “…You wouldn’t happen to be a Christian of the evangelical variety, would ‘ya?”

    The best laugh in some time – thanks.

    I admit Hagee fascinates me. Porcine tax-exempt businessman who’s found a clever gig. Elmer Gantry? Smart guy, but don’t find much divinity. Hate to spend eternity with him on some celestial cloud. Pentecostalism and snake handling also peaks my curiosity – people actually do that?

    Alas, to return to your question (and “philosophical Christian” Art – who I like) I’m no “evangelical.”

    Consider me an ideological orphan. Think Heraclitus. “Even asses know straw is better than gold.”

    • Replies: @geokat62
  278. Munchen says:

    Is there anything Israeli or Jewish related that you people agree on?
    What common ground so no more round and round multi-definition game nonsense?
    Here, I will start:
    Can we all agree that the murder of Jews during the WWII was evil?
    And that genocide of any group like Jews, Gypsies, Armenians, Tutsi, Hutu or other is evil?

  279. geokat62 says:

    There appears to be some who are suggesting that those of us who believe The Lobby plays a dominant role in influencing the USG on foreign policy in the ME are conspiracy theorists who believe in a “Jewish-matrix.” The evidence they produce to support this claim is this: if The Lobby were truly all-powerful, it would never have been defeated by the Obama administration on the Iran nuclear issue.

    This is equivalent to suggesting that just because Mike Tyson lost once to Buster Douglas. he no longer dominated the sport of boxing, after that particular match.

    And as this article points out, while The Lobby may have been defeated on this one particular issue, they may have actually benefited from it:

    Israel’s ‘Successful’ Defeat on Iran

    All was not lost for AIPAC over the nuclear deal, however. The mere fact that President Obama had to spend so much political capital defending the deal and securing support for it on Capitol Hill likely sent a strong signal to future presidents: Even if you ultimately can defeat AIPAC in a head to head confrontation, it will cost you so much political capital that you’ll likely have precious little left for your other priorities. Thus, even in defeat, AIPAC may have strengthened its deterrence.

    Moreover, hard-fought defeats are good for fundraising. Clear-cut causes, even when losing, are preferable to lack of clarity. In other words, the Israelization of Iran will likely remain good for business, despite the passing of the nuclear deal.

    “This last battle,” Rosen said of AIPAC’s effort on the Iran deal, “may be remembered as the start of another growth spurt.”

    https://consortiumnews.com/2015/12/03/israels-successful-defeat-on-iran/

    • Replies: @Art
  280. […] worst best-kept secrets that – the nuclear agreement aside — Iran remains a high priority on the ‘to do’ list for the Regime Renovators. (See also here, here, and here.) In addition to the relentless […]

  281. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    geokat62 – (have you read PNAC’s A Clean Break and/or Oded Yinon’s A Strategy for Israel in the 1980s?”

    Incitatus – I have indeed.

    geokat62 – “…You wouldn’t happen to be a Christian of the evangelical variety, would ‘ya?”

    Incitatus – Alas, to return to your question (and “philosophical Christian” Art – who I like) I’m no “evangelical.”

    Then I must confess that I’m completely stumped as to why you are against a re-balancing of the Special Relationship.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Incitatus
  282. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    It’s a secret only to those who believe the lies its perpetrators put about to cover it up.

  283. Klaipeda says:

    “which was a lucky break for Israel, particularly as Kennedy was replaced by the passionate Zionist Lyndon Baines Johnson. Funny how things sometimes work out. The Warren Commission looked deeply into a possible Cuban connection in the shooting and came up with nothing but one has to wonder if they also investigated the possible roles of other countries.” Interesting article. I learned a few things and can add something here that suggests further that Israel should have been a possible suspect.

    JFK’s father Joseph Kennedy was FDR’s US ambassador to Great Britain in 1940 and unlike FDR, was opposed to WW II and the US entering the war. Unlike the US Congress, as described in this article, Joseph Kennedy spoke his mind. Like others, Kennedy said Jews were pushing the US into the war and when he gave a commencement speech on graduation day at Notre Dame university he commented on the constant attacks by the Jewish media on Hitler, saying something to the effect that they had better be careful, as Germany was a strong country.

    And now JFK’s diaries have been published and it turns out JFK thought very much like his father. Kennedy visited Germany before the war began. Here are a few of his comments.

    ‘Fascism?’ wrote the youthful president-to-be in one. ‘The right thing for Germany.’

    In another; ‘What are the evils of fascism compared to communism?’

    And on August 21, 1937 – two years before the war that would claim 50 million lives broke out – he wrote: ‘The Germans really are too good – therefore people have ganged up on them to protect themselves.’

    I think he was right and he wasn’t the only person that said this.

    Don’t think Kennedy was alone the way he thought. Many millions of people thought similarly, including American aviator Charles Lindbergh, the Ukrainians, Latvians, Estonians and others that welcomed the German army as liberators from their communist butchers. But while the German government was reporting on the millions of people being killed in the USSR in the 1930′s before the war started, the New York Times and much of the media in the democratic countries was covering up the massacres, instead focusing on the small Jewish minority in Germany that was being pushed out of positions of power in government and the civil service. Below the article I post a snippet from a speech President Putin made a few years ago. A fascinating statement that throws further light on things and only demonstrates further how much everything has been lied about and falsified.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329556/How-JFK-secretly-ADMIRED-Hitler-Explosive-book-reveals-Presidents-praise-Nazis-travelled-Germany-Second-World-War.html

    President Putin – 80 to 85% of the USSR’s government was Jewish

    Huh. I always heard that was a “NAZI lie”

  284. geokat62 says:
    @Junior

    Thanks for doing the legwork, Junior. So much for: every bit of it is there.

  285. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    He’s not; neither am I.

    That fact is likely the cause of your stumpification.

  286. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    Hi Incitatus,

    [Hope you’re cynical or ironic.]

    Yes, certainly I was, although not effectively, I admit ruefully.

    Agree with every word. Opposition to Dodd-Frank has wheels within wheels, which I hope to expound on, on another occasion.

    Pressed for time, I apologise; mooning a time honoured Brit tradition. Second only to snogging in public view! :-)

    Best

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  287. Art says:
    @geokat62

    The Lobby plays a dominant role in influencing the USG on foreign policy in the ME are conspiracy theorists who believe in a “Jewish-matrix.” The evidence they produce to support this claim is this: if The Lobby were truly all-powerful, it would never have been defeated by the Obama administration on the Iran nuclear issue.

    Hi geokat62,

    The Jew-matrix is NOT all powerful in America – there is still the “will of the people” with whom they must contend. The Jew-matrix controls the elite – but not the masses.

    A Syrian war did not happen because the people did not want it. The Iran nuke treaty happened because it made sense to the people. Obama liked power – and power still comes from the people. (Ironically, those two decisions may be the only things that history may applaud about Obama’s time in office.)

    What is total in America is the Jew-matrix itself – there are 7,000,000 Jews in America – 15,000,000 in the Western world. They all work together. They are a singularity – they are one when it comes identity – they are a team – they are contentious amount themselves – but singular when it comes to tribal matters.

    That picture of Netanyahu being sucked-up-too by the US congress proves that the Jew-matrix controls the elite. The Jew-matrix control of the media is their primary tool to control the masses. We are almost in a “1984” situation where all discourse is controlled and intimidated from above.

    But there is hope – somehow the truth that things are not going so well, is starting to shine through the Jew-matrix of false information and darkness.

    Peace — Art

  288. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    Still, I confess puzzlement. ‘Philosophic Christian’ versus ‘practicing Christian’? No doubt I’m missing something basic. Help me out, Art.

    If one believes in cause and effect – if one believes that things happen one after another with some reason behind them – then one should believe that there is something different about Christianity and the culture that it has produced. There must be a reason behind the success of Christian Western culture.

    Every great religion has two major thought tracts. One prescribes how we humans should view and interact with god (religion) – and the other prescribes how we should live our temporal lives with each other (philosophy). The first takes faith – the other can be intellectually questioned, because we can see if it actually makes a difference in our lives. Which of these two different subjects – one godly – one temporal – has moved mankind forward?

    Is Western Christianity successful because of its religious belief in the Virgin Birth and the Resurrection? Or is it successful because of its philosophical beliefs about how we should interact?

    Somehow through the ages, the powerful practical words of Jesus have survived the abuse of popes and preachers. These words take the form of a philosophical idealism. They have been the engine of progress in the West. This engine of progress is a set of ideals. They are: live with hope – life is sacred – love your neighbor – seek the truth – forgive – and extend grace to all.

    One does not have to be a religious Christian to practice these ideals. It can be stated that most people who live in the West are idealistic philosophical Christians.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. This is not a put down of the Christian religion or people of faith.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  289. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    “…you are against a re-balancing of the Special Relationship.”

    I’m for avoiding what Washington called “passionate attachments.” They corrupt donor and recipient. If “rebalancing” means ending subsidies to US manufacturers for free weapons for Israel and Egypt (and anyone else), I agree.

    I’m in favor of AIPAC and similar groups (any and all countries) registering as foreign agents and – on that basis – invite them to make their case. Like to see all tax subsidies rescinded for non-degree granting ‘educational’ think tanks. Public financing for limited duration elections, elimination of all private campaign contributions, etc. End to $100 billion arms deals to countries like KSA that only promote 15C family values (beheadings, amputations, lashings, death of Yemenis, and – very possible – war with Iran).

    Is the ‘Special Relationship’ the root of all maladies? That’s where we differ.

    Is it behind the disgraceful failure in Flint? Terrible US infrastructure? Possible state bankruptcy in Illinois? Short funds in Connecticut, Kansas, and other states? Unsustainable health costs and abysmal metrics? Expelling 60% of seniors from nursing homes? Defense overspending on dysfunctional weapons made by American firms? A broken Congress and press, governance no different from mindless reality-television? A POTUS pictured on bogus Time covers in his golf clubs as phony as his campaign positions?

    The “Special Relationship” has little to do with any of that. Iraq ‘03? KBR – a single US company – made more money in Iraq than Israel collected from the US in a decade.

    No country, race, or people is monolithic. Good, bad, and indifferent populate any category, any century. Where to draw the line? Proof of individual misdeed. The Rule of Law. Reason. Orestes, portrayed by Aeschylus, learned the hard way (458 BC). I often think mankind’s been on the decline since.

    20C wars and atrocities warn, if little else, of the danger of singling out monolithic scapegoats. Denigration leads to demonization, dispossession, expulsion and/or extermination. Be it 1.5 million Armenians 1914-23 or 2 million Lycian Hellenes 1923 from Turkey. Jews in 1933-45 Germany were another dark chapter.

    Yes, men are not angels. But, as Aeschylus might agree, they should not be beasts.

    That’s what I worry about.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  290. Incitatus says:
    @iffen

    “The tow in towhead and tow sack refers to the color.”

    Point taken. Knew about pale blond hair. Never would have guessed the “low alluvial island or river shoal or sandbar” bit. Learn things every day. Proof I still draw breath (“je pense, donc je suis”)?

    Disagree PG’s necessarily Mossad. Sometimes think UNZ a contractor for DARPA (NSA, CIA, or another alphabet agency). Still remember post 9/11 stories of Poindexter’s dream of online betting websites for immanent terrorism targets. But who knows?

    Gotta give PG credit. Certainly turns out Planet Germania and an ample nest of Blattella germanica.

    • Replies: @iffen
  291. iffen says:
    @Incitatus

    Disagree PG’s necessarily Mossad.

    No, that was tongue in cheek. However, despite what many of the 88s here write, I think that it is likely that there are poseurs who spend their time trying to create a virtual world of anti-Semitism.

    Sometimes think UNZ a contractor for DARPA …

    I can’t make that make sense. Wouldn’t somebody have to be a threat to something?

    an ample nest of Blattella germanica.

    And you make me go searching. Aggravation with myself in that I had searched before and it failed to stick.

    You have to be careful with such terms; some here have no skin and will wilt if they think you are referencing them.

  292. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    If “rebalancing” means ending subsidies to US manufacturers for free weapons for Israel and Egypt (and anyone else), I agree.

    No, “rebalancing” means putting an end to the phony GWOT.

    Did Iran, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt represent existential threats to the US? Well, according to this AIPAC regional guidebook from 2000, they did to Israel:

    [MORE]

    Country Profiles Threats in the Region

    Iran Iran remains the foremost threat to the United States and Israel in the Middle East. Despite the self-proclaimed moderation of some of its leaders, Iran is accelerating its efforts to acquire missiles and weapons of mass destruction. Tehran remains the chief sponsor of international terrorist groups and Islamic radicals seeking to impose Iranian-style Islamic regimes throughout the region. The government of Iran vehemently opposes the Middle East peace process and the very existence of Israel.

    Iran could field the Shihab-3 ballistic missile in 2001. Iran is expected to finish development of the Shihab-3 missile, and begin deploying the weapon, which is capable of traveling a range of 900 miles and striking any point in Israel. U.S. and regional analysts have concluded that the introduction of this weapon will alter the strategic balance in the Middle East. Iran is also pursuing development of even more powerful ballistic missiles, such as the Shihab-4 or “Kosar,” which will be able to deliver payloads of unconventional weapons some 1,500 miles, putting southern Europe within striking distance. Iran also has on the drawing board the Shihab-5, an intercontinental ballistic missile that could reach the United States perhaps by the latter part of this decade, unless Russian technical assistance is halted. A series of short-range ballistic missiles are also being developed to threaten U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf.

    Iran may be able to develop nuclear weapons within five years. Recent American and Israeli intelligence assessments have stated that Iran could be within five years of a nuclear weapons capability. The timing could be considerably shortened if Iran were to obtain the necessary fissile material or possibly even nuclear warheads from abroad. While warnings of a nuclear Iran have been made for several years, the new strategic partnership with Russia- including the near-completion of a nuclear reactor at Bushehrhas possibly shortened the time until Tehran crosses the atomic threshold. Iran also has a large stockpile of poison gas agent, in spite of signing the Chemical Weapons Convention, and is developing the means to wage germ warfare. The U.S. ILSA sanctions have served to limit the funds available to IRAN for its WMD programs, which otherwise would be evolving more rapidly.

    Iran receives assistance from Russia, which last year cancelled its 1995 agreement with the U.S. not to provide new weaponry to the rogue Islamic regime. Transfers of technology and expertise primarily from entities in Russia, as well as from China and North Korea, are enabling Iran to accelerate its missile and nuclear programs, as well as modernize its armed forces. The development of the Shihab-3 was aided by inclusion of Russian engines, guidance systems and warhead technologies. On the nuclear side, Russia’s $1 billion deal to rebuild Iran’s Bushehr nuclear reactor serves as a cover for a clandestine nuclear weapons program. The Russians are giving valuable training to Iranian technicians and engineers who can easily transfer their knowledge to weapons development. In late 2000, Tehran and Moscow renewed intense negotiations on the sale of some 1,000 battle tanks and dozens of the most modern Russian combat aircraft, SAMs and possible submarines. This $7 billion multi-year deal was finalized during the March 2001 summit between Iranian and Russian Presidents Khatami and Putin.

    Iran’s military threatens access to the Persian Gulf. Iran’s naval modernization and expansion program is increasing the threat of future Iranian attacks on commercial ships and U.S. naval vessels in the Persian Gulf and the narrow Strait of Hormuz. With its improved navy– which includes three Russian submarines and Chinese anti-ship cruise missiles–Iran will be able to disrupt the flow of oil to the rest of the world or threaten such a disruption as a means of political leverage. Naval exercises by the elite “Revolutionary Guards” have confirmed that Iran has prepared for the possible disruption of oil traffic in the region and even amphibious attacks on neighboring states.

    Iran, the chief state sponsor of international terrorism, has increased its assistance to Palestinian terrorist organizations operating in the West Bank and Gaza. Despite its more moderate-sounding President, Iran remains the chief sponsor and financial backer of terrorist organizations dedicated to attacking Israel, the United States and the Middle East peace process. Iran, which considers Israel to be the “little Satan” and the U.S. to be the “great Satan,” backs up its rhetoric by training, funding and hosting numerous terrorist groups that have been implicated in violent attacks in Israel, Lebanon, the Gulf countries, Europe and Latin America. Hamas and Islamic Jihad, responsible for numerous fatal bombings and shootings directed against civilians in Israel, are supported directly by Iran. Israeli intelligence reports confirm that since the fall of 2000, Iran is using Hizballah to send additional aid to these groups including funding and training.

    Iran continues to train Hizballah terrorists in southern Lebanon and supply them with advanced rockets, including long-range Katyusha rockets capable of reaching deep into Israel. Since Israel’s withdrawal from southern Lebanon in 2000, there has been no diminution of Iranian support to Hizballah, and arms shipments have actually increased. Tehran has risked sparking a wider, regional conflict by publicly and privately encouraging Hizballah’s terrorist guerillas to attack Israel and then threatening to act in an “astounding and unexpected way” should Israel respond. Israeli intelligence reports that Hizballah, with Iranian help, is developing an independent capability for terrorist attacks within Israel.

    Iran supports Islamic extremism. Iran is the patron of Islamic extremist movements across the Middle East and North Africa that seek to impose an Iranian-style Islamic government in other countries. These extremist groups continue their bold, violent actions to overthrow moderate Arab regimes in Jordan, Egypt, the Palestinian Authority, Algeria, Lebanon, and the Gulf countries. Iran and its proxies reject the U.S. presence in the region and oppose peace negotiations of any kind with Israel, which is considered to be a totally illegitimate “entity” that must be eliminated.

    Syria Syria, which is expanding its arsenal of weapons of mass destruction, remains Israel’s principal immediate military threat. Israel’s security planners are worried about Syria’s growing conventional and unconventional military capabilities, especially since Syria walked away from the peace table in 2000. For the past decade, the Syrians have had the ability to manufacture several hundred tons of chemical warfare agents per year at four separate production facilities. Syria has received, via Iran, hundreds of extended-range North Korean Scud-C missiles, and is reportedly building its own ballistic missiles from imported technology. In 2000, Syria tested for the first time a longer-range Scud-D missile, able to hit any point in Israel from deep inside Syrian territory—making it more difficult for Israel to find the launch sites.

    Syria’s military outnumbers any other Middle East country or even the combined arsenals of Great Britain, France and Italy. In terms of size, Syria’s armed forces surpass the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) by a wide margin. The Syrian armed forces total more than 400,000 men, with another 400,000 troops in reserve. Syria’s arsenal includes more than 4,600 tanks and some 600 combat aircraft. While much of Syria’s equipment is outdated, a large Saudi-financed package of new weaponry from Russia may soon be delivered, including surface-to-air missiles, mobile artillery, battle tanks and combat aircraft. Syrian ground units, including elite commandos, train constantly for a possible strike against the Israeli-controlled Golan Heights. In terms of standing forces (not including reserves), Syria’s army outnumbers the IDF on the Golan Heights by a factor of more than 4:1. And Israel must assume that any future conflict could also bring in other Arab states, such as Iraq.

    Syria’s army continues to occupy Lebanon, even after the Israeli withdrawal. With 40,000 troops, Syria occupies Lebanon, home to many of the most radical and violent Islamic organizations, most notably Hizballah (Party of God). Even without the pretext of Israel’s presence in southern Lebanon, Syria encourages continued Hizballah attacks as a means of keeping Israel off-guard and pressuring Israel to withdraw from the Golan Heights. Syria also allows Iran to use the Damascus airport for transshipping weapons and other supplies to the terrorist group. As a result, Hizballah continues to threaten the citizens of northern Israel with Katyusha rocket attacks. With Syrian acquiescence, Hizballah has over the years perpetrated numerous terrorist attacks against U.S. and other western targets in Lebanon and against Israeli and Jewish targets throughout the world. Israel holds Syria responsible for Hizballah’s ongoing attacks.

    Israel remains concerned about the dangers of miscalculation. Israel is concerned about the dangers of miscalculation, even though the Israel-Syrian border has been quiet since the 1974 disengagement agreement. A future crisis with Syria could emerge with little warning and quickly escalate to war, even unintentionally, particularly in light of the new and relatively inexperienced leadership in Damascus. With its large standing army abutting the Golan Heights, Syria could attempt a quick land grab before Israel can deploy its reserves. Also, Syria’s dangerous game of permitting Hizballah to attack Israel in order to provoke a response could spiral the region into a larger war.

    Syria hosts Palestinian terrorist organizations in both Damascus and Lebanon. These groups – including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-are opposed to the peace process and the very existence of the state of Israel. They have launched lethal attacks against innocent Israeli citizens, resulting in hundreds of deaths. These activities continue today, in conjunction with the so-called “Al-Aqsa intifada”. As a result, Syria remains on the State Department list of countries sponsoring terrorism.

    Iraq Iraq continues to menace the Middle East and threaten another major war in the region. Saddam Hussein plunged into war with Iran in 1980 that lasted most of the decade, and then brought on another major international war in 1990-1991. After a decade of international sanctions, Iraq has not changed; it continues to remain a menace to its neighbors today. Iraq violates its international obligation to allow arms monitoring; conceals its weapons capabilities and build new weapons; smuggles in technologies and components for making weapons of mass destruction; continues to issue threats against Israel, the U.S., and its immediate neighbors; and harbors and supports numerous anti-Israel and anti-American terrorist organizations. As long as Saddam Hussein is in power, any containment of Iraq will only be temporary until the next crisis or act of aggression.

    Iraq, in spite of international sanctions, remains a major threat to Israel as well as to U.S. interests in the Middle East. In the absence of any external monitoring of arms since the expulsion of UNSCOM inspectors in 1998, Saddam is believed to be well on the way towards restoring his unconventional weapons arsenal. If the international community is unwilling to enforce existing UN Security Council resolutions regarding Iraqi disarmament, Iraq could produce chemical weapons again, for example, in just a matter of months and a nuclear device within a matter of years, according to reliable estimates. One recent report released in February 2001, from Germany’s BND intelligence service, indicates that Iraq could reassemble the means to build a bomb within three to six years. It was also recently confirmed that Iraq tested a radiological device which would be used to poison large areas with “fallout.”

    Iraq remains a long-term threat to Israel’s security. Saddam Hussein is backing up his ongoing verbal pronouncements to destroy Israel with specific threatening actions. While much of Iraq’s arsenal of unconventional weapons has been destroyed, Western analysts remain certain that extensive work has resumed on rebuilding weapons of mass destruction. Saddam is seeking to capitalize on the unrest in Gaza and the West Bank in many ways: by deploying several elite armored divisions close to Iraq’s western border poised to traverse Jordanian or Syrian territory and attack Israel; by parading his stillmassive army in Baghdad in a display of solidarity with the Palestinians; and by paying large sums of cash to the families of so-called Palestinian “martyrs” who lost their lives in violent confrontations with Israel. Iraq’s ties to Syria, long strained under the late President Hafez al-Assad, have grown much closer since his son, Bashar, assumed control in 2000.

    Iraq could attack Israel at any time. Just as in 1991, Iraq may use missiles or other weapons to provoke a response from Israel as a way to exacerbate a future crisis with the U.S. or UN. It is also plausible that if Saddam’s regime is threatened, he might unleash his most destructive weapons on Israel as a desperate last gasp. Baghdad has already resumed testing of short-range ballistic missiles that could be modified to reach Israel with little difficulty.

    Iraq has used weapons of mass destruction. Iraq not only has the capability to build such weapons, but under Saddam Hussein has proven time and time again the willingness to use them. Iraq has used poison gas against Iran as well as against its own Kurdish citizens; invaded Kuwait and launched missiles against Israel and Saudi Arabia without provocation.

    Libya Libya has used much of its growing oil wealth to accelerate its ballistic missile program and negotiate new arms contracts with Russian and European suppliers. Foreign experts from a range of countries — including Iran — have been assisting its ballistic missile programs. Col. Qaddaffi’s current arsenal of Scud missiles is outdated and its homegrown “Al-Fatah” missile program was slowed by international sanctions. The end of Libyan sanctions, however, is likely to reinvigorate Tripoli’s quest for a means to threaten the region. Western intelligence assessments indicate that Tripoli is seeking to acquire technology related to the North Korean Nodong missile program, and may purchase the Iranian Shahab-3 intermediate-range missile. This would give Libya the ability to strike Israel directly for the first time, as well as place a wide arc of southern Europe in danger. In 2000, North Korean missile components were intercepted en route to Tripoli, a discovery that confirmed suspicions about Libyan activities. Additionally, Libya is seeking a wide range of spare parts for its aging Soviet-supplied arsenal, as well as state-of-the-art Russian air defense missile systems.

    If left unchecked, Libyan leader Qaddafi will be able to target southern NATO allies and Israel with poison gas or germ-tipped rockets, or provide such weapons of mass destruction to terrorist groups. Libya possesses the region’s largest chemical weapons production facility. Additionally, Libya is thought to have cooperated with Iraq to manufacture biological weapons. These weapons, when combined with Libya’s growing ballistic missile capability, create the potential for serious threats, especially given Quaddafi’s erratic nature.

    Libya is a state sponsor of terrorist organizations. The January 2001 verdict finding a Libyan intelligence agent guilty of the bombing of Pan Am 103 in 1988, confirmed what has been widely-known for decades: The government of Libya and its intelligence agencies have directly supported and carried out deadly terrorist attacks throughout the world, particularly targeted at Americans. As a result, Libya remains on the State Department’s list of state sponsors of terrorism and the United States maintains tough economic sanctions.

    Saudi Arabia The steep climb in oil prices during 2000 has allowed Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf states to renew a number of large arms purchases postponed during the past half-decade. The Saudis have already accumulated one of the most modern militaries in the Arab world. Although there is minimal threat to Israel from Saudi Arabia on its own, the Saudis have participated in previous Arab-Israeli wars, and the prospect that it could do so again, this time with its state-of-the-art weapons arsenal, must be taken seriously. An additional risk that cannot be dismissed is the possibility of a hostile, anti-western regime taking over the country. The Saudis also bank-role military purchases by some of Israelis more direct adversaries, such as Syria.

    Saudi Arabia has amassed one of the region’s most advanced militaries. Israeli military assessments must account for the Saudi air force because the quality of Saudi aircraft and aerial missiles are on par with Israeli models, directly impacting on Israel’s vital qualitative military edge. The movement of Saudi forces toward Israel could require Israel to divert its own military assets toward Saudi Arabia and away from real threats. The sophistication of the Kingdom’s arsenal considerably erodes Israel’s qualitative edge.

    Saudi Arabia faces openly critical opposition forces. While Saudi Arabia is considered one of Washington’s closest friends in the Gulf, opposition forces have been openly critical of the government and its close ties with the U.S. and the West. In recognition of this sentiment, the Saudi government has been reluctant to host American troops or stockpile American military equipment and has been uncooperative in investigating terrorist attacks against Americans on Saudi soil.

    Saudi Arabia faces violent Islamic extremists. Islamic extremists, trying to expunge all western influence from the country, were responsible for a number of large anti- American terrorist attacks. On June 25, 1996, an enormous truck bomb exploded just outside the U.S. Air Force housing facility in Dahran, killing 19 Americans. Nearby Yemen was the site of the attack on the U.S.S. Cole on October 12, 2000, which terrorist leader and Saudi national Osama Bin-Ladin is suspected of masterminding. If Islamic terrorist groups ever succeeded in overthrowing the Saudi government, it would have serious consequences for both Israeli and American security.

    Egypt Egypt was the first Arab country to sign a peace agreement with Israel, in 1979, but remains a long-term potential concern for Israel’s defense forces. While Egypt, the largest Arab country, honors its treaty commitments to Israel, the relatively “cold peace” between the two countries has not created the kind of confidence that allows Israel to dismiss some troubling events in Egypt. Given the success of Egypt’s military modernization, the ongoing threat to the Mubarak government by anti-Israel Islamic extremists, and Egypt’s recent counterproductive role in the peace process is of concern.

    Egypt today possesses large and thoroughly modern armed forces, equipped with the latest U.S. weaponry. Egypt now has tanks, missile systems, combat aircraft, naval vessels and weapons, and attack helicopters equivalent or superior to those in Israel’s arsenal. Israel is worried about the erosion in its qualitative edge, particularly since it currently has no effective response to some of these weapons. The Egyptian buildup of such a capable military is notable for taking place in the absence of any obvious threat or an adversary other than Israel. Thus, Israel cannot exclude the possibility of Egyptian forces mobilizing or even deploying against Israel should there be a dramatic escalation in the Israel-Palestinian crisis. Israel’s concerns are heightened by Egypt’s decision to stage large-scale offensive training exercises near the Sinai peninsula during 2001.

    Egypt has purchased Scud missiles from North Korea. Published CIA reports confirm Cairo’s efforts to acquire foreign materiel and support for the development of missiles and unconventional weaponry. The Scud-C ballistic missile, with a range of 310 miles, is easily capable of hitting Israel. Egypt is thought to possess chemical weapons, which can be launched on these missiles.

    Egypt’s stability could be threatened by Islamic militants. Islamic extremists – who are virulently anti-Israel – continue their campaign to rid Egypt of foreign influences and eventually to overthrow the pro-western government of President Hosni Mubarak. If a hostile regime were to take over, U.S. interests would be endangered and Israel’s security would be greatly compromised, given Egypt’s military potential. Islamic terrorists have become increasingly bold in attacking tourists, journalists, secular intellectuals, government officials and Coptic Christians. Approximately 1,000 people have been killed since the onset of this wave of violence in the 1990′s. These same extremists have promised to extend their violence to American targets outside of Egypt because of U.S. anti-terror measures.

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  293. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Hi Sam,

    “Pressed for time, I apologise…”

    No need for apologies.

    “Snogging” is far cry from early 70s W1 London. When, as I recall, the derby and pinstripes were not uncommon. Sigh!

    Best

  294. Incitatus says:
    @Art

    Art,

    A thoughtful, provocative post. Thanks.

    “…There must be a reason behind the success of Christian Western culture.”

    There may be many reasons. Not just ‘culture’ and ‘faith.’ Western triumph in the New World? Had something to do with religion, technology and trade goods. Much more to do with native lack of resistance to disease, brandy, and rum. Suppose one could say that’s ‘God’s will’, but then I don’t pretend to know. HE certainly doesn’t appear to care for all HIS creations equally, does HE? Natives got screwed. Weren’t they HIS creatures?

    Western (European) triumph commenced well before Christianity. Pagan Athens. Macedonia. Rome. You name it, they conquered it (or tried). Beyond the physical, the intellectual. Democracy and Republics? Christianity was built on that foundation post Constantine. Elaine Pagels is a good source for the thorny transition.

    “Every great religion has two major thought tracts. One prescribes how we humans should view and interact with god (religion) – and the other prescribes how we should live our temporal lives with each other (philosophy).”

    Don’t disagree. Isn’t “…how we view and interact with God (religion)” best left to each of us, a private thing? What you do (or fail to do) – action or inaction – defines you. Our individual legacy. Our testament. Pagans might have called it honor.

    ”…[religion] takes faith – the other [how we should live our temporal lives...(philosophy}] can be intellectually questioned, because we can see if it actually makes a difference in our lives. Which of these two different subjects – one godly – one temporal – has moved mankind forward?”

    “Faith.” Interesting word. A bridge over the chasm of doubt? Would faith exist without doubt? If we weren’t mortal, each destined for death, would there be religion?

    “Philosophy.” Or morality? Doubt and mortality is important here. Being human? What we do to our fellow man is what matters? Don’t need religion for that. Morality. Just my opinion.

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    , @Art
  295. geokat62 says:

    Just read a very interesting article by Alastair Crooke (a former British diplomat who was a senior figure in British intelligence and in European Union diplomacy) posted on consortiumnews.com.

    Here are a few excerpts:

    … an unnamed former Arab Prime Minister was quizzed about MbS’ prospects of becoming king. What he said shocked the gathering. Some expressed their incredulity.

    He said bluntly: if MbS wanted to come to the throne, he would need America’s blessings. He would need to offer them something that no one had offered before – that no one had dared to offer before. And what was that, the journalist asked the former PM that MbS must offer: “He must recognize Israel. If he does that, the U.S. will support him. They’ll even crown him themselves.”

    …………

    This is the combination that may be provoking such Israeli excitement: The ambition and opportunism of two young crown princes, coupled by their desire to restore Sunni authority (and the obedience of subordinate states) by mobilizing the Sunni world in a “jihad” against Iran and “terrorism,” must be music to some Israeli ears.

    ………….

    What interest of America will be served by intruding into these ancient animosities? MbS, MbZ and Netanyahu may be American “allies,” but their interests are not America’s. The former might be happy for America to spill its blood in fighting their fights. But why should Trump want to do that?

    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/01/how-israelisaudi-alliance-plays-trump/

    As I’ve written before:

    It’s all part of The Lobby’s grand strategy:

    Act I – get the dumb clod to attack the Sunnis
    Act II – get the dumb clod to take a Sunni turn
    Act III – get the dumb clod to get the Sunnis (led by KSA) and the Shia (les by IRI) to slaughter each other in a 100 year war (preferably longer) while the villa inexorably expands in the jungle

    This is what I mean by “rebalancing.” The US has to extricate itself from the special relationship before doing more damage to itself and others.

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  296. Miro23 says:
    @geokat62

    From that interesting article:

    This is the combination that may be provoking such Israeli excitement: The ambition and opportunism of two young crown princes, coupled by their desire to restore Sunni authority (and the obedience of subordinate states) by mobilizing the Sunni world in a “jihad” against Iran and “terrorism,” must be music to some Israeli ears.

    And Shia Islam is no insignificant 10 percent minority — in the Arab heartland, it is more like 60-40 percent. In the northern crescent, it is some 100 million Shiites to 30 million Sunnis. And Shism is undergoing a profound revival.

    And this is the rabbit hole down which President Trump has fallen.

  297. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    “…end to the phony GWOT.”

    ‘Global War on Terror’ is just the latest chapter of ‘Global Manifest Destiny.’ Politely known as GHW Bush’s ‘New World Order’ after Desert Storm 28 Feb ‘91. It goes back much further in many different iterations.

    The nastier version incubated after the fall of the USSR 26 Dec ‘91. A power vacuum that offered unexpected opportunity for financial exploitation. But also threatened a “peace dividend” (defense downsizing) – deadly peril to those with reliable, decades-long incomes from weapons sales. How could such ridiculous spending lacking a rival superpower be justified?

    Solution? A seductive vision of unchecked American corporate financial and political growth to absolute dominance, supported by undiminished militarism. Militarism rhetorically justified by freedom and democracy, régime change, genocide prevention and other wholesome menu items. Euphemisms for endless illegal meddling, intervention and aggressive war. Pair that with empowerment of a progressively smaller group of ‘entrepreneurs’ (political mega donors) controlling US (global) corporations. and (more important) political parties. Their rhetoric? Free enterprise, competition, market discipline, and all the other BS.

    Imperialism.

    All enforced by a compliant all-volunteer military, supported by for-profit ‘private contractors’ (mercenaries) and logistics. Win-win for the private sector venues nurtured by SecDef Dick Cheney with LOGCAP in ‘92. Guess what? Rotating in and out of office to the private sector, politicians could now make fortunes Medici would envy. Big Dick is ample proof.

    Back to the ‘91 earthquake of USSR demise. Deep in Cheney’s Pentagon, the panic call went out. Poly-Sci patriots Wolfowitz and Libby stepped up and penned “Defense Planning Guidance of 1992.” It leaked to New York Times 7 Mar ‘92:

    “Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power.”

    “The U.S. must show the leadership necessary to establish and protect a new order that holds the promise of convincing potential competitors that they need not aspire to a greater role or pursue a more aggressive posture to protect their legitimate interests. In non-defense areas, we must account sufficiently for the interests of the advanced industrial nations to discourage them from challenging our leadership or seeking to overturn the established political and economic order. We must maintain the mechanism for deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role.”

    “Like the coalition that opposed Iraqi aggression, we should expect future coalitions to be ad hoc assemblies, often not lasting beyond the crisis being confronted, and in many cases carrying only general agreement over the objectives to be accomplished. Nevertheless, the sense that the world order is ultimately backed by the U.S. will be an important stabilizing factor.”

    “While the U.S. cannot become the world’s policeman, by assuming responsibility for righting every wrong, we will retain the preeminent responsibility for addressing selectively those wrongs which threaten not only our interests, but those of our allies or friends, or which could seriously unsettle international relations.”

    -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine

    Well, as they say, manure hit the fan. Embarrassed (probably genuinely), GHW Bush ordered revisions, and a more benign text appeared 16 April ‘92. Time passed.

    Son (GW Bush) adopted the principles (dominance, preemption, unilateralism) after sleeping on duty until 9/11/01. An easy fix, a fig leaf for dereliction and negligence.

    Israel and AIPAC were certainly involved in justifying Iraq as a target, but only as helpful talking heads. GW Bush needed a camera friendly venue for ‘shock and awe.’ An object lesson delivered with overwhelming force, best with a minimum number of troops (thus making each troop a superman – leverage was important).

    Geo, you attribute the GWOT to Israel. Really think men like Cheney and Woolsey care about Jews and Israel? Apart from money they can make on the Golan screwing Syrians? Doubt it.

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  298. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    Global War on Terror’ is just the latest chapter of ‘Global Manifest Destiny.’ Politely known as GHW Bush’s ‘New World Order’ after Desert Storm 28 Feb ‘91. It goes back much further in many different iterations…

    Oh, the old GMD or NWO argument. That explains it. I wonder what AIPAC, CPMAJO, PNAC, WINEP, JINSA, WJC, AJC, ADL, ZOA, etc. etc. etc. do/did day to day? They just sat back and watched events unfold, I guess?

    Look, we’re all very familiar with the MIC argument and that there are many who benefit from wars. But, unlike previous wars, this one was sold to the American people as something that was launched to enhance their security by draining the swamp in MENA by fighting the terrorists over there so they woudn’t need to fight them over here, remember? But rather than enhancing their security, the phony GWOT has led to increased terrorist attacks. And the explanation for that is quite simple: if you remove secular, autocratic regimes that have kept a tight lid on Islamic fundamentalists (like Saddam in Iraq, Qaddafi in Libya, and Assad in Syria) and create a power vacuum that is filled by said Islamists, is it a surprise that the West has seen a spike in terrorist acts? So let’s cut the bull and state candidly what everyone who’s informed knows: The Lobby plumped the USG to launch the GWOT as a front to remake MENA by regime changing those countries deemed hostile to the villa in the jungle in an effort to enhance the security of said villa, at the expense of the American people’s security and their Treasury ($6B and counting)

    Israel and AIPAC were certainly involved in justifying Iraq as a target, but only as helpful talking heads…

    “No lobby has managed to divert U.S. foreign policy as far from what the American national interest would otherwise suggest, while simultaneously convincing Americans that U.S. and Israeli interests are essentially identical”. – Mearsheimer and Walt

    Geo, you attribute the GWOT to Israel. Really think men like Cheney and Woolsey care about Jews and Israel? Apart from money they can make on the Golan screwing Syrians? Doubt it.

    Tell me if you still doubt it after reading this about James Woolsey:

    [MORE]

    While students at Stanford, both Susan and James were deeply influenced by assistant dean Al Lowenstein. The three remained close friends until Lowenstein’s murder in 1980. That friendship may explain the origin of Woolsey’s increasingly neoconservative leanings.

    Woolsey’s friends—including Richard Perle, who served as assistant secretary of defense under President Ronald Reagan, and Paul Wolfowitz, the current under secretary of defense—are influential in securing appointments in both the U.S. government and in think tanks for their fellow neocons. Susan Woolsey, for example, served a one-year stint as a Washington Post editorial writer, and also as the chief operating officer for the National Academy of Sciences.

    …………..

    After leaving the CIA, Woolsey became a partner in the law firm Shea and Gardner. Under the terms of the U.S. Foreign Agents Registration Act, the firm is registered as a foreign agent for the Iraqi National Congress, one of the key groups involved in the push for war against Iraq in early 2003.

    After the Sept. 11 events Woolsey became a man possessed, warning the American public that far more serious terrorist threats lay ahead that must be dealt with seriously. Speaking to a group of college students on April 2, 2003, he said, “The United States is engaged in World War IV,” which could continue for years.” Describing the Cold War as the third world war, he then said that “this fourth world war, I think, will last considerably longer than either World Wars I or II did for us.”

    Woolsey also was fanatical about getting rid of Saddam Hussain. The May 11, 2003 London Observer called Woolsey “one of the most high-profile hawks in the U.S. administration [who] is a key member of the Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board.” The Observer also noted that Woolsey “is a director of the Washington-based private equity firm Paladin Capital. The company was set up three months after the terrorist attacks on New York and sees the events and aftermath of Sept. 11 as a business opportunity which ‘offers substantial promise for homeland security investment.’”

    According to his wife, since 9/11 Woolsey has pursued a grueling seven-day-a-week schedule unlike any period in his life since his embattled CIA tenure. Woolsey’s single-minded work mentality is best evidenced by the following anecdote: When he was once asked to speak before an Israeli audience that included current Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, Woolsey traveled to Israel, delivered his speech and then, without pausing, flew directly back to the United States in order not to disrupt his many other commitments. Woolsey’s abrupt departure, however, should not be taken as a sign of displeasure with Israel. “Throughout the decades of American involvement in the Middle East,” he has said, “the intelligence community has been a silent partner with Israel.”

    Returning the compliment, a 1997 Jerusalem Post article, written following Woolsey’s participation in a Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA)-sponsored trip to Israel, noted, “Woolsey and his friends visit each other’s homes, meet at conferences and worry about Israel.”

    Woolsey’s support for Israel influences his opinions of other nations. He recently has said that “hideous lies about Jews are spread by the Saudi Ministry of Religious Affairs and government-controlled media.” He acknowledges, however, that Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah is making commendable efforts toward new Saudi policies.

    There is some indication that James Woolsey may see himself as a latter day Old Testament prophet. “Only fear will re-establish respect for the U.S.,” he has said. “We need to read a little bit of Machiavelli.”

    Needless to say, this fits in very nicely with the beliefs—and actions—of his fellow neoconservatives. Together, many of Woolsey’s beliefs, along with his sense of destiny, make him a potentially dangerous, or at least a highly unusual, public figure.

    http://www.washingtonreport.me/2003-october/you-don-t-have-to-be-jewish-to-be-a-neo-con-john-bolton-and-james-woolsey.html

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  299. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    1. “…There must be a reason behind the success of Christian Western culture.”

    There may be many reasons. Not just ‘culture’ and ‘faith.’ Western triumph in the New World? Had something to do with religion, technology and trade goods. Much more to do with native lack of resistance to disease, brandy, and rum. Suppose one could say that’s ‘God’s will’, but then I don’t pretend to know. HE certainly doesn’t appear to care for all HIS creations equally, does HE? Natives got screwed. Weren’t they HIS creatures?

    Incitatus,

    It is true that biological factors played a role in the Indian’s downfall – with that said, the major reason for their losses are philosophical and cultural. In round numbers, it takes 1,000 acres of land for each Indian to survive – where it takes 100 acres for a Euro Christian to survive. Nature dictates that the 100 acre folks will win. Personal individual philosophical Christianity is more efficient then tribalism. Philosophical idealism makes it possible for people to come together with others, and be productive (without government). The Indians lost because they were tribal – whereas Christian settlers won because they could successfully cooperate with each other – producing a more sustainable cooperative future for all of them.

    The greatest damage done to the Indians was perpetuated by non-Christian government. The facts are that the settlers and the Indians killed each in mostly equal numbers. It was the un-Christian US government who did the major killing. It was the one that made treaties and then reneged on them.

    There has never been a philosophical Christian government. There will never be philosophical Christian government – period. Christian idealism and tribal government force are incompatible.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. For the most part Christian philosophy and god are two different subjects. Idealism is about temporal living.

  300. Art says:
    @Incitatus

    1. ”…[religion] takes faith – the other [how we should live our temporal lives...(philosophy}] can be intellectually questioned, because we can see if it actually makes a difference in our lives. Which of these two different subjects – one godly – one temporal – has moved mankind forward?”

    “Faith.” Interesting word. A bridge over the chasm of doubt? Would faith exist without doubt? If we weren’t mortal, each destined for death, would there be religion?

    Incitatus,

    I make my case for philosophical Christianity from a logical perspective – not a religious “faith” perspective. With that said, I would have never reached my intellectual perspective without “people of faith.” For 2,000 years “people of the Christian faith” have found meaning and worth in the Christian religion. I am enormously grateful to all of them for keeping the words of Jesus within the shared human mindset.

    Logic dictates that there must be something special about Jesus’ idealistic words – that when they are privately applied and followed, they bring success for their adherents. Human history collaborates this. Whether Jesus is the Son of God or not – his idealistic words bar bountiful fruit.

    “Philosophy.” Or morality? Doubt and mortality is important here. Being human? What we do to our fellow man is what matters? Don’t need religion for that. Morality. Just my opinion.

    I personally do not like to use the word “morality” when discussing Christian philosophy. “Morality” is baggage from the Old Testament. Morality says “be good or else.” Thou shalt not brings forward the notion of “law.” And the law brings on the notion that force may be used to enforce “thou shalt not.”

    Moses says the negative, “thou shalt not” – Jesus says the positive, do hope, life, love, truth, forgiveness, and grace. Breaking “thou shalt not” brings on a cycle of recrimination – being idealistic brings a better more positive future. All too often “thou shalt not” is put in the hands of government action and force – this is never good.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. “Á eye for an eye” is unacceptable to the thinking human mind.

  301. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    No doubt the GWOT is a counterproductive criminal fraud. Where do we differ?
    - You ascribe it (and Iraq ‘03) to the ‘Lobby’, Israel, and Jews;
    -I think – more alarming – it’s increasing US oligarchy, financial dominance and militarism.

    Israel GDR: $311.7 million; $34,800 per capita (est ‘16);
    US GDR: $18,560,000,000 (60 times Israel); $57,300 per capita (est ‘16);
    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-fact book/
    The tail wags the dog? Don’t think so.

    Was the ‘Lobby’ behind the following?

    • The Ohio Company of Virginia 1748-?
    • Vent de la Louisiane 1803?
    • Texas Revolution 1835-36?
    • Mexican-American War 1846-48?
    • Spanish-American War 1898?
    • WW1 1917-18?
    • WW2 1941-45?
    • Korean War 1950-53?
    • Mosaddegh coup in Iran 1953?
    • Guatemalan coup 1954?
    • Vietnam War 1955-75?
    • Bay of Pigs 1961?
    • Grenada Invasion 1983?
    • Iran Contra 1985-87?
    • Panama Invasion 1989-90?
    • Bosnian War 1992-95?

    Many UNZ posters attribute WW1 & WW2 to Jews, Wilson,and FDR. Some say the Fed, National Debt, international banking (you name it) are nefarious Jewish traps. JFK assassination 1963? 9/11/01?

    What say you Geo? Sign on with the jew-scapegoat-for-all-ills crowd?

    Woolsey? Probably the most incompetent CIA director ever. Infrequently met with Clinton 1993-95 and never alone. Owns Aldrich Ames and fired nobody. Supported (paid by US funds to represent) felon Ahmed Chalabli, INC proxy. Who turned out in fact to be an Iranian proxy. As for his ‘Chicken-Little’ WW4 spiel post 9/11? He knew a good thing when dropped in his lap.

    “The Iraq war is part of World War IV. This is going to be a long war, very long indeed. I hope not as long as the Cold War, 40 plus years, but certainly longer than either World War I or World War II. I rather imagine it’s going to be measured, I’m afraid, in decades…We really don’t need the Europeans. Anyways, they will be the first in line patting us on the back following our success and saying they were with us all along.”
    -James Woolsey April 2003

    This is what I wrote at the time:

    Woolsey hopes for ‘a long war,’ ‘measured in decades.’ Paladin’s Homeland Security Fund’ needs a stable, long term conflict to attract investors and manifest profits. Europeans (and many others) haven’t lined up to ‘pat us on the back,’ and they haven’t been saying they ‘were with us all along.’ This is, of course, their fault (another sign of duplicitous cynicism and faithless treachery).

    Paladin? Founded 2001. Still exists:

    http://www.paladincapgroup.com/people/r-james-woolsey/

    http://www.paladincapgroup.com/portfolio/

    Look at Paladin’s other ‘advisors.’ Must admit Richard A. Clarke was a shock. Seems yesterday he apologized to Americans for 9/11. Nonetheless, seems many of the “advisors”, “experts”, “venture partners”, “directors”, “principals”, “managing directors”, “vice presidents”, “founders” – well – most don’t seem Jewish or Israeli. Did I miss something? Could it be Americans are cashing in on terrorism and it’s not just the ‘Lobby’?

    Of course there’s also Genie Energy. Trust you’ve devoted some time to that, but as it was ‘spun off’ of IDT Corp in in 2011, seems unlikely responsible for Iraq ‘03. Make your case if you know otherwise.

    BTW happy 150! Hope you are celebrating (as well you should)!

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  302. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    -I think – more alarming – it’s increasing US oligarchy, financial dominance and militarism.

    The only special interest missing from this list is Big Zion. As members of Big Z like to say: “It’s a match made in heaven” for the 1% and in hell for the 99%.

    The tail wags the dog? Don’t think so.

    That tail is so big and strong, the dog is apt to get vertigo from swinging to and fro.

    What say you Geo? Sign on with the jew-scapegoat-for-all-ills crowd?

    Perhaps not all ills, but there is little doubt The Lobby plumped for the phony GWOT to secure the villa in the jungle. Here’s someone who is willing to call a spade a spade:

    Joe Klein Suggests Jewish Neocons Pushed Iraq War to ‘Make World Safe for Israel’

    Now Joe Klein has raised the issue of dual loyalty around the neoconservatives’ motivation for “plump”ing for the Iraq war:

    The notion that we could just waltz in and inject democracy into an extremely complicated, devout and ancient culture smacked–still smacks–of neocolonialist legerdemain. The fact that a great many Jewish neoconservatives–people like Joe Lieberman and the crowd over at Commentary–plumped for this war, and now for an even more foolish assault on Iran, raised the question of divided loyalties: using U.S. military power, U.S. lives and money, to make the world safe for Israel. And then there is the question–made manifest by the no-bid contracts offered U.S. oil companies by the Iraqis–of two oil executives, Bush and Cheney, securing a new source of business for their Texas buddies. [emphasis mine]

    Beautiful. A war to make the world safe for Israel. (Though I’d note that Klein needs to paste on the figleaf of the oil men having dual loyalty too. Dubious.) And note why Klein is saying this now: the overheated rhetoric re Iran. The realist view of the Israel/Palestine issue is coming inside.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2008/06/joe-klein-suggests-jewish-neocons-pushed-iraq-war-to-make-world-safe-for-israel/

    And here’s a couple of other tidbits I should throw in for good measure:

    1. According to the neocon Aspen Study Group report:

    Now, the United States has embarked upon an ambitious mission to remake the Middle East.

    The United States has long maintained several core (though competing) interests in the Middle East, including the stability of world oil markets and uninterrupted flow of petroleum from the region, the manifest importance of Israeli security, and support for moderate Arab regimes.

    http://www.aspeninstitute.org/sites/default/files/content/docs/asg/ASPEN_GRANDSTRATEGY1.PDF

    2. As Edward Snowden revealed:

    “[T]he survival of the state of Israel is a paramount goal of US ME policy.”

    An excerpt from a classified report, History of US – Israel Sigint Relationship, post 1992.

    BTW happy 150! Hope you are celebrating (as well you should)!

    Thanks. And happy 241 to you.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  303. geokat62 says:

    Another example of the power of The Lobby:

    Pro-Israel ‘gatekeepers’ at California university shut down search for Edward Said scholar, a candidate says

    The strength of the Israeli lobby lies in not always acting as outside pressure but also in functioning from inside institutions thanks to individuals who occupy gate-keeping positions, and from the strategic position of the insider post, enact their commitment to Israel in and through everyday administrative tasks. At a certain level, this is unsurprising. But increasingly ideological support of Zionism has led to everyday negation of anything Palestinian that crosses their desks and scope of power. And since these quiet forms of violence are not readily traceable, the onus continuously falls on those suffering discrimination to prove the same cause in each and every case.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/07/gatekeepers-california-university/

    Kind of reminds one of the treatment they afforded to Chas Freeman et al, doesn’t it?

  304. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    “That tail is so big and strong, the dog is apt to get vertigo from swinging to and fro.”

    Nicely put!

    “…is little doubt The Lobby plumped for the phony GWOT to secure the villa in the jungle.”

    They certainly saw no downside, no risk. Why would they? Their advocacy is, by definition, in their self interest. Perhaps some believe the Oded Yinon Plan, ‘villa in the jungle’ and all that. Others simply want Israel to be the regional ‘superpower’ (most offended by ambassadeur Daniel Bernard’s ‘01 slight). Others naïvely – but genuinely – believe “democracy” injected forcefully by foreign powers cures all. Odds are the latter majored in poly-sci and communications.

    Many Americans saw the GWOT as a great business opportunity. Take ‘America’s Mayor’ Rudy Giuliani. Stupidly sited the NYC crisis center in WTC Bldg 7 (destroyed 9/11), knowing the WTC was a terrorist target in ‘93. Rudy makes a comfortable living as a ‘security expert.’ Tidbits? Here’s what he said supporting (auditioning for) DJT:

    “Under those eight [Republican] years, before Obama came along, we didn’t have any successful radical Islamic terrorist attack in the United States. They all started when Clinton and Obama got into office…”
    -Giuliani 15 Aug 2016

    Rudy forgot about 9/11, but nobody’s perfect. And people actually pay this guy for advice?

    “…stability of world oil markets and uninterrupted flow of petroleum from the region, the manifest importance of Israeli security, and support for moderate Arab regimes.”

    The first (cheap, dependable energy), mainspring of global trade, is essential to empire. Ask the Walton family. Israel is very important, but as a proxy and ideological hedge (a thorn in regional politics that attracts most attention). “…support for moderate Arab regimes” like the Sauds and their 15C Wahabbi enforcers? Don’t think so. ‘Support for and control over the status quo’ maybe the more appropriate phrase.

    I’d add a fourth priority – the most important by far. To preserve and extend US power over the region (the globe, trade, finance) whatever the local cost. That’s the bottom line.

    BTW Snowden’s employer Booz Allen Hamilton, obviously negligent in supervision, harvests $4+ billion/yr making the NSA (our first line of defense) look good. Like Rudy, they’re always famished despite a prime position at the GWOT trough. The greed tapeworm?

    Here’s what CEO Shrader said to cover Snowden embarrassment:

    “Booz Allen’s chief executive, Ralph W. Shrader, rebuked Snowden’s actions on Wednesday in his first public remarks on the topic. Shrader said during a conference call that he has met with Booz Allen employees on the matter.”

    “I told our employees Mr. Snowden was on our payroll for a short period of time, but he was not a Booz Allen person and he did not share our values,” Shrader said. “We cannot and will not let him define us.”

    “Booz Allen, which is majority-owned by private equity firm Carlyle Group, was thrust into the spotlight after Snowden acknowledged being the source of news reports about National Security Agency data-collection programs.”

    -Marjorie Censer ‘Booz CEO: Snowden was not a Booz Allen person’ Washington Post 31 Jul 2013
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/capitalbusiness/booz-ceo-snowden-was-not-a-booz-allen-person/2013/07/31/a349b51a-f9f6-11e2-8752-b41d7ed1f685_story.html

    Well, that’s clear enough isn’t it! “Snowden…was not a Booz Allen person and he did not share our values.” Enough said. I’d ask what those values are, but fear a response other than money first and last.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  305. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    I’d add a fourth priority – the most important by far. To preserve and extend US power over the region (the globe, trade, finance) whatever the local cost. That’s the bottom line.

    US power over the region?

    Do you recall this little gem by Mitt Romney in the 2012 primaries:

    In a telling exchange during a debate in December, Mr. Romney criticized Mr. Gingrich for making a disparaging remark about Palestinians, declaring: “Before I made a statement of that nature, I’d get on the phone to my friend Bibi Netanyahu and say: ‘Would it help if I say this? What would you like me to do?’ “

    Sensing he may have gone too far pulling the curtain back, one of The Lobby’s key gatekeepers was quick to reassure the American people that their POTUS is truly the one in charge:

    Martin S. Indyk, a United States ambassador to Israel in the Clinton administration, said that whether intentional or not, Mr. Romney’s statement implied that he would “subcontract Middle East policy to Israel.”

    “That, of course, would be inappropriate,” he added.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/08/us/politics/mitt-romney-and-benjamin-netanyahu-are-old-friends.html

    Look, Incitatus, tomorrow you’ll be celebrating Independence Day. Along with watching the display of fireworks and munching on hotdogs and hamburgers, might I be so bold as to suggest that you and your fellow countrymen need to give serious consideration to how to go about liberating your great nation for a second time?

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  306. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    Geo,

    Brief time out from fireworks, eating contests, and purgative excess to convey my favorite Mitt Romney story.

    “…The presumptive Republican candidate in the the US presidential race told a $25,000-a-head (£16,000) fundraising event in Jerusalem: “As I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognise the power of at least culture and a few other things.”…He cited a climate of innovation, the Jewish history of thriving in adversity, and the “hand of providence”.”

    “More than 40 people attended Romney’s fundraising breakfast at Jerusalem’s famous King David hotel, amassing more than $1m for the Republican election campaign…Sheldon Adelson, the Jewish-American billionaire casino magnate who has bankrolled Romney’s presidential campaign, sat next to the candidate at a U-shaped table…Among the other guests were the New York Jets owner, Woody Johnson, and the hedge fund manager Paul Singer. Donors ate a typical Israeli breakfast of salad, cheese, yoghurt and pastries.”

    “Romney, who did not visit the West Bank while in the Holy Land, made no mention of either Israel’s 45-year occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem, nor its continuing blockade of Gaza, both of which have had a catastrophic impact on the Palestinian economy.”

    Wait, here’s the good part.

    Bear in mind Mitt’s brilliance in reducing his taxes on $59,000/day x 365 days/yr income to that of a $35,000/yr laborer (13.9%). WSJ reported he’s a $100+ Million tax deferred IRA (odd, given the maximum allowed $6500/yr annual contribution), and passed another $100 million in trusts to five sons. If nothing else, Mitt should have figures right, shouldn’t he?

    “Romney said: “As you come here and you see the [gross domestic product] per capita, for instance, in Israel, which is about $21,000, and compare that with the GDP per capita just across the areas managed by the Palestinian Authority, which is more like $10,000 per capita, you notice such a dramatically stark difference in economic vitality.”

    “According to the World Bank, however, Israel’s per-capita GDP was about $31,000 in 2011, while the West Bank and Gaza’s was just over $1,500.”

    -Harriet Sherwood ‘Mitt Romney ‘providence’ comments in Israel outrage Palestinians’ The Guardian 30 July 2012

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jul/30/mitt-romney-israel-economic-success

    $21,000 vs $31,000 per capita? $10,000 vs $1,500 per capita? And this guy’s good with numbers? Maybe on his taxes, IRA, and Trusts?

    Pandering subservience and his 25% tax reduction economic cure-all (the tired GOP path to deficit and debt) were one thing. The secretly taped $50,000/plate Florida fundraiser revealed the only genuine thing he uttered during the campaign – 47% of Americans pay no tax, depend on government, and are – thus – beyond persuasion. He didn’t regret their support. He envied their 0% tax status!

    Geo, you’ll say he was owned by the Lobby. For a day ($1 million) that’s true. Know how much he raised in 2012? $449,886,513. The ‘Red Team’ spent $1,254,323,304 on his behalf 2012. I’ll spare you the math comparing Israel to his total. http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/index.php).

    “…give serious consideration to how to go about liberating your great nation for a second time?”

    We liberate ourselves on a regular basis, several in my lifetime. 1775-83 was hopefully just a beginning (and thanks France for that). Stay true to yourself, Canada, and don’t count us out yet.

    Postscript. $25,000 buys “a typical Israeli breakfast of salad, cheese, yoghurt and pastries” and racist inaccuracies. $50,000 buys a (creamed Florida chicken?) dinner and candid resentment. Never did figure that out.

    Finally, happy to report Joey Chestnut’s won the ‘2017 Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating Contest’ (his 10th) by eating 72 hot dogs and buns in 10 minutes. God bless America!

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  307. Sam Shama says:
    @Incitatus

    Hi Incitatus,

    Re-appearing after a hectic mission of sorts.

    We liberate ourselves on a regular basis, several in my lifetime. 1775-83 was hopefully just a beginning (and thanks France for that). Stay true to yourself, Canada, and don’t count us out yet.

    Difficult to put it any better!

    Read through your threads with Geo and I must say the following are clear: one, the near-impossibility of expecting diehards to even minimally revise their cause, however tenuous its premises; two, recalling James Thurber, (I’d tell Geo, directly but he has taken to replying to my posts in the indirect voice) “It is better to know some of the questions than all of the answers.”

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  308. The ongoing Middle East turmoil is a direct result of the Liked War Party in Israel conspiring with rogue elements of the Mossad and CIA and the triumvirate of W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donnie Rumsfeld o make up false pretenses to invade Afghanistan and Iraq and remove dictators whom the Israeli Likud War Party viewed as their greatest enemies in the region. The American invasions of those two nations and the endless, exitless quagmire wars have resulted in millions of real and phony refugees/migrants now invading Europe across the Mediterranean and through the Balkans as spineless European politicians not just tolerate but encourage the invasion as the race and nation traitors they truly are. The Likud Party also got the U.S. and E.U. to orchestrate the overthrow of Gaddhafi in Libya and the ongoing revolution/civil war against the Assad clan in Syria as well as fomenting conflict in Yemen. Nearly the entire region is in some sort of conflict and upheaval. Netanyahu somehow brainwashed himself and his clique of corrupt career politicians in the Knesset that Israel who be safe, sound, and secure with American weapons and a strong military and America acting as Israel’s mercenary dealing death and destruction throughout the Levant. Nothing could be further from the truth. Israel is much less safe and secure today than before the Israeli instigated invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. There is growing unrest in the occupied territories and in Israel proper and the Likud regime has engendered much more hatred and bitterness against Israel throughout the world. The U.S. needs to have an orderly withdrawal from the entire region. Israel has the largest and strongest military in the region thanks to the American taxpayers. Let them defend themselves and their interests. Let Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states do their fair share of taking refugees and keeping order throughout the Middle East. NATO can blockade the south Mediterranean Coast and end the seaborne invasion of Europe and secure the Balkan path ways with troops, fences, and walls with help from the Kremlin. America does not get a drop of oil from the region but much of Europe and Asia do. Let the large Chinese, Indian and Japanese armies, navies and air forces keep the sea lanes open and the oil fields running. The U.S. is bankrupt and bled white from these endless and senseless wars and can no longer afford to be Israel’s mercenary or big banking and big business enforcer. This insanity and criminality must end soon or America will collapse economically and socially and have its own revolution and civil/class/race war on its own soil. The nefarious influence of the Zionists must be ended and the true national interests of the American people be first and foremost in Congress and the President’s mind and hearts and always followed by the American national government. Otherwise the U.S. is nothing but an oligarchy controlled by the globalist 01.% at home and abroad and Israels’ attack dog abroad.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Art
  309. geokat62 says:
    @diogenestoday

    Difficult to put it any better!

  310. Sam Shama says:

    [The U.S. is bankrupt....]

    Hello diogenestoday,
    Nice touch my Hellene-Canuck friend! Define bankruptcy, and then we might have a conversation.

  311. Art says:
    @diogenestoday

    diogenestoday — Nice comment – full of truth.

    Pay no attention to Sam. Here he describes himself. He looked in a mirror and here is what he saw:

    I must say the following are clear: one, the near-impossibility of expecting diehards to even minimally revise their cause, however tenuous its premises.

    Sam is just one of the 15,000,000 strong Jew-matrix. He chides you for having the courage to believe what you see.

    Here is the reality of his Israel – it is ugly – torture, summery killing, jailing without charging, Gaza, West Bank walls, land theft, voting against peace, instigation of wars, and the cruelest army in the world.

    Poor little Sam cannot see these things – his elders have so brainwashed him, that he does not believe his eyes. He is not an ethical man with courage. Even sadder is that he is doing the same thing to his own children and grandchildren.

    Peace – Art

    • Replies: @RobinG
  312. geokat62 says:

    Nice touch my Hellene-Canuck friend!

    My how lucky one must be to have a 204 IQ. With that kind of intelligence one can divine another commenter’s country of origin even if that individual has posted a solitary comment, without leaving a trace from whence they might have originated…. impressive indeed!

    • Replies: @RobinG
  313. Incitatus says:
    @Sam Shama

    Welcome back Sam! Hello Geo!

    Sorry to be late. Momentarily sidetracked defending Hitler for not shaking hands with Jessie Owens in ‘36. Mentioned Dolf’s extraordinary arm extension exercises for returning the Hitlergruß. He should have won gold. Led to speculation on Olympic events post a Third Reich victory, a genuine rabbit hole (e.g. Hitlergruß fencing, arm wrestling, etc). Don’t think PG’s Planet Germania was convinced (sigh).

    Sam, I generally agree with Geo on the corrupting influence of special interests and money. Not the first time in US history?

    Geo, I’m too skeptical to think it comes from one source – AIPAC or ‘the Lobby.’ Or Wall Street, Defense Industries, Silicon Valley, Lawyers, DNC, GOP, Labor Unions, Teachers, Media, or anyone else. Many players, many countries sit at the trough.

    Cures? Strict short duration (6 month), publicly funded elections, prohibit private money and campaign commercials, debates broadcast as a condition of media licenses, restored journalistic standards (vs. editorials and infotainment), ban or heavily tax the ‘revolving door’, ban government pension payments for retired public officials and military flag officers serving on corporate boards or as media commentators, eliminate tax exemptions for ideological ‘think tanks’ and lobbyists like AIPAC, the Christian Coalition, Family Research Council and other ‘advocacy groups’ (liberal, conservative; religious, secular), require groups representing foreign countries (AIPAC, etc.) register as foreign agents, and (doubtless) a hundred other things.

    None of it will happen. Special interests would find new ways to leverage advantage if it did. Sadly, the gray world we live in.

    Geo, you mentioned Ancestry.com some time ago. Bad as times may seem, knowing more of what antecedents endured makes one humble. We are so lucky, so spoiled. So blessed.

    Two much more interesting stories.

    First, the F-35. Geo, this (native US) makes ‘the Lobby’ look like paupers:

    “Costs to operate and support Lockheed Martin Corp.’s F-35 will balloon unless the deteriorating reliability of the Pentagon’s costliest program improves…The aircraft and its parts aren’t as reliable as expected, and it’s taking longer to repair them than planned…About 20 percent of the jets must await spares in depots because suppliers can’t keep up with expanding production while fixing returned parts…Past attention focused on costs and delays in what’s now a projected $379 billion program to acquire the planned fleet of 2,443 fighters for the Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps. But operating and maintaining the advanced jets for decades to come presents another set of challenges that may strain Pentagon budgets…The availability of spare parts for the 203 F-35s already assigned to bases “is getting worse, affecting fly rates” and pilot training…These trends mean long-term “lifecycle costs” of the aircraft are “likely to increase significantly” over the current $1.2 trillion estimate…fleetwide availability of F-35s to fly when needed is 52 percent, short of…the 80 percent needed to start combat testing next year…”
    -Tony Capaccio, The Hartford Courant/Bloomberg, 28 Jun 2017
    http://touch.courant.com/#section/4321/article/p2p-93967874/

    Billions for a fighter 52% able to fly? Ballooning legacy costs and abysmal operability (let alone performance)? Critics say it’s a disaster. From day one it was a camel (horse designed by committee).

    Untrue! The F-35 was never really designed to fly, fight, hover, or whatever. It was designed to shower money on defense contractors nesting in hundreds of congressional districts and countries. Disfunction and spare parts augments profitability. Everybody’s happy (except the taxpayer and the poor sod tasked to fly it).

    Second (favorite):

    “Hobby Lobby: Christian firm’s artefact smuggling case settled”
    -http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40516932

    Hobby Lobby fined $3 million and forced to return illegally smuggled ancient Iraqi artifacts. Seems they were destined for a massive (430,000 sf) ‘Museum of the Bible’ in Washington DC: https://www.museumofthebible.org/

    Another new (no doubt tax exempt) institution dedicated to “convey the global impact and compelling history of the Bible in a unique and powerful way.” With “Groundbreaking Bible research” and “Cutting Edge Bible Education.”

    Hobby Lobby innocently forgot “Thou shall not steal,” “Thou shall not bear false witness,” and “Thou shall not covet?” Nobody’s perfect. Wonder what kind of museum they’ll put together?

    Think they’re alone? Sample the Crystal Bridges Museum of American Art in Bentonville AR. The ‘Walton Museum.’ Prime example of tax avoidance. It’s simple. Buy ‘art’ for pennies, get tame appraisers to inflate value, donate it to a museum (extra points if it glorifies your family, who out sourced production to China), take a giant tax exemption. Everybody wins?

    Well, maybe not the poor American slob out a job. But, once again, nobody’s perfect.

    Pity Vonnegut is dead.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  314. RobinG says:
    @Art

    MASS DELUSION IS COMMON

    Lately I’m watching Scott Adams explain techniques of persuasion. Useful stuff for the propaganda wars.

    Scott Adams talks about climate change debunking, is it credible?

    This discussion is about climate change, but imagine substituting other popular beliefs: Russia hacked the election, Trump is a Putin puppet, Bashar Assad is a brute who pointlessly gasses his own people, Palestine was a land without a people, Israel…. where to begin?

    • Replies: @Art
  315. RobinG says:
    @geokat62

    Geo, please see my comment to Art (#328?). IDK what Scott Adams’ IQ is, but he’s extremely perceptive.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  316. geokat62 says:
    @RobinG

    Thanks for bringing this to my attention, Robin. Scott Adam’s referred to the Michael Mann case, something I was completely unaware of.

    I did a quick search and came across this fascinating article, from which I’ve extracted the following excerpt:

    Breaking: Fatal Courtroom Act Ruins Michael ‘Hockey Stick’ Mann

    Penn State climate scientist, Michael ‘hockey stick’ Mann commits contempt of court in the ‘climate science trial of the century.’ Prominent alarmist shockingly defies judge and refuses to surrender data for open court examination. Only possible outcome: Mann’s humiliation, defeat and likely criminal investigation in the U.S.

    The defendant in the libel trial, the 79-year-old Canadian climatologist, Dr Tim Ball (above, right) is expected to instruct his British Columbia attorneys to trigger mandatory punitive court sanctions, including a ruling that Mann did act with criminal intent when using public funds to commit climate data fraud. Mann’s imminent defeat is set to send shock waves worldwide within the climate science community as the outcome will be both a legal and scientific vindication of U.S. President Donald Trump’s claims that climate scare stories are a “hoax.”

    http://principia-scientific.org/breaking-fatal-courtroom-act-ruins-michael-hockey-stick-mann/

    Since I’m not sure about the source I came across, I wouldn’t mind if others could corroborate the veracity of this story.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  317. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    Just read an interesting quote by Rep. Nancy Pelosi:

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi was ringing a familiar bell when she proclaimed on CNN in mid-May: “Every day I ask the question, ‘What do the Russians have on Donald Trump financially, politically or personally that he’s always catering to them?’”

    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/06/the-democrats-russia-gate-obsession/

    I, too, have a similar query, but it is slightly different:

    “Every day I ask the question, ‘What do the Israel-firsters have on Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham, financially, politically or personally that they’re always catering to them?’”

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  318. Art says:
    @RobinG

    Lately I’m watching Scott Adams explain techniques of persuasion. Useful stuff for the propaganda wars.

    Scott Adams talks about climate change debunking, is it credible?

    Thanks RobinG,

    Good stuff – problem is the powerful 15,000,000 strong Jew-matrix will not publish this story.

    At every turn, they stymie our future. Whatever is good for peace and harmony they oppose.

    The strongest hammer they have over American culture is their control over advertising.

    Any company who needs advertising – must follow the Jew-matrix’s agenda or lose contact with their customers. Ask O’Reilly about it.

    Peace — Art

  319. Incitatus says:
    @geokat62

    “‘What do the Israel-firsters have on Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham, financially, politically or personally that they’re always catering to them?’”

    Or Ed Royce, Tom Cotton, or hundreds of others? “Israel-firsters” don’t need blackmail. Fact is, supporting Likud Israel is a popular, no risk position. US infotainment assures there’s no downside. Even the Israeli press is more balanced.

    Consider the US lack of outrage the most expensive weapons system in history is 52% operational, burdened with ballooning legacy costs set to rob multiple future generations of trillions. All for a dysfunctional albatross. Or the $17 billion+ supercarrier USS Gerald Ford, refitted because designers forgot the vertical takeoff F-35 version expelled exceptional hot exhaust on the deck. Or the new Littoral Combat ship class, several of which (brand new) failed at sea and required towing.

    John McCain is in the thick of funding for these ‘weapons.’ He admonishes contractors from time to time. Colossal incompetence (theft) continues. US media isn’t outraged. Americans aren’t outraged. Israel-first? Way down the priority chain (sadly).

    Why is it “John McCain and Lindsey Graham”…[are] “always catering to them” [incompetent weapons manufacturers]?

    Nancy Pelosi, gun control advocate extraordinaire, has a concealed carry permit issued in San Francisco. By many reports the only permit issued for her year. SF is notorious for granting few if any, and usually only to the politically connected (Diane Feinstein was another example).

    • Replies: @geokat62
  320. RobinG says:
    @geokat62

    Well, it seems like this whole Michael-Mann-contempt-of-court thing may be a complete fabrication, and Scott Adams may have fallen for it. Or not. I have no idea.

    http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2017/07/08/michael-man-did-not-sabotage-his-law-suit-but-deniers-are-sabotaging-the-planet/

    (The bi-sexual sex worker and the phony lawyer add a novel touch.)

    But again, I wasn’t really interested in either Mann or the climate. It’s the mass delusion, group-think, power of persuasion and influence that has my attention. And BTW, Trump is a Master Persuader, according to Adams. I tend to agree.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  321. geokat62 says:
    @Incitatus

    Why is it “John McCain and Lindsey Graham”…[are] “always catering to them” [incompetent weapons manufacturers]?

    Or, might there be another motivation?

    Sen. John McCain’s family linked to organized crime

    Links to organized crime by Sen. John McCain’s family may explain his unwavering support for the state of Israel. His family connections to organized crime-connected interests (through both major parties) date back at least to the 1940s. Arizona’s mafia rivals New York and Chicago.

    AFP’s Michael Collins Piper takes a look behind the scenes.

    https://mikepiperreport.com/Articles_Archive/AmericanFreePress/AFP2008_01-06/Michael_Collins_Piper_AFP20080204_McCain’s_Career_Financed_by_Mob_Money.html

  322. geokat62 says:
    @RobinG

    It’s the mass delusion, group-think, power of persuasion and influence that has my attention.

    There is no better proof for mass delusion being real than the Russia-gate hoax that is currently being perpetrated against the American people by the fake news:

    Recall that the FBI was denied access to the DNC servers by the DNC itself, and simply agreed to rely on the results provided by CrowdStrike, which as you can see has ties to all sorts of anti-Russia organizations and individuals. I find it absolutely remarkable that James Comey head of the FBI outsourced his job to CrowdStrike.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-24/what-crowdstrike-firm-hired-dnc-has-ties-hillary-clinton-ukrainian-billionaire-and-g

    On Thursday, a senior law enforcement official told CNN that the DNC “rebuffed” the agency’s request to physically examine its computer servers after the alleged hacking. Instead, the FBI relied on CrowdStrike’s assessment that the servers had most likely been hacked by Russian agents.

    CrowdStrike is a California-based cybersecurity technology company co-founded by experts George Kurtz and Dmitri Alperovitch.

    http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/columns/aaron-klein/quick-takes-15/2017/01/11/

    Think about this for a moment. The allegation of Russian interference in the election is so serious that it could lead to the impeachment of a sitting president and the leading law enforcement agency of the land is willing to allow a third party to conduct an “independent” investigation it alone is supposed to conduct? And what is Crowdstrike?

    What is CrowdStrike? Firm Hired by DNC has Ties to Hillary Clinton, a Ukrainian Billionaire and Google

    In lieu of substantive evidence provided to the public that the alleged hacks which led to Wikileaks releases of DNC and Clinton Campaign Manager John Podesta’s emails were orchestrated by the Russian Government, CrowdStrike’s bias has been cited as undependable in its own assessment, in addition to its skeptical methods and conclusions. The firm’s CTO and co-founder, Dmitri Alperovitch, is a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, a think tank with openly anti-Russian sentiments that is funded by Ukrainian billionaire Victor Pinchuk, who also happened to donate at least $10 million to the Clinton Foundation.

    In 2013, the Atlantic Council awarded Hillary Clinton it’s Distinguished International Leadership Award. In 2014, the Atlantic Council hosted one of several events with former Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, who took over after pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych was ousted in early 2014, who now lives in exile in Russia.

    http://www.maxkeiser.com/2017/03/what-is-crowdstrike-firm-hired-by-dnc-has-ties-to-hillary-clinton-a-ukrainian-billionaire-and-google/

    Is there any better proof of mass delusion?

    Poll: Americans increasingly believe Russia helped Trump win election

    An increasing number of registered voters believe Russian hackers helped President Trump win last year’s election, according to Fox News poll results released Wednesday evening.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poll-americans-increasingly-believe-russia-helped-trump-win-election/article/2624091

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  324. aashiq says:

    The US is becoming a colony of Israel, and Israel is leveraging the US to project power elsewhere in the world, to its advantage.

    This is similar to the relationship between Britain and India, a century ago.

    1. Transfer of wealth: Cash aid, contracts, and underwriting

    2. Protection from criticism: the position of a “sacred object”, above criticism

    3. Use of soldiers and wealth to protect itself and expand its sphere of influence

    Like the East India Company in India, AIPAC is today the local enforcer.

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