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I have just spent a couple of days in New York City. Returning to Virginia on Wednesday morning, I had a somewhat strange experience. I cleared through my emails before leaving the hotel and also read through a number of the featured news articles. One, in particular, caught my eye. It described how the Democratic Party primary in Queens New York had returned a startling result. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez won over mainstream incumbent Joe Crowley, signaling that not everyone in the Democratic Party is buying into the Clinton model of good governance by big donors and powerful interest groups. Many want change and even a radical departure from the political game whereby media savvy pressure groups and narrow constituencies are pandered to to create a governing majority.

One paragraph in particular in the article I read was highly suggestive, the claim that Ocasio-Cortez had been strongly opposed to the Israelis’ routine slaughter of Palestinians in Gaza, which has by now become of such little import that it is not even reported any more in the U.S. media. She is also allegedly a supporter of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanction movement (BDS), which pressures Israel to end its theft and occupation of Palestinian land. The article expressed some surprise that anyone in New York City would dare to say anything unpleasant about Israel and still expect to get elected.

This is what Ocasio-Cortez, who called the shooting of more than 130 Gazans a “massacre,” actually said and wrote:

“No state or entity is absolved of mass shootings of protesters. There is no justification. Palestinian people deserve basic human dignity, as anyone else. Democrats can’t be silent about this anymore. I think I was primarily compelled [to speak out] on moral grounds because I could only imagine if 60 people were shot and killed in Ferguson. Or if 60 people were shot and killed in the West Virginia teachers’ strikes. The idea that we are not supposed to talk about people dying when they are engaging in political expression just really moved me.”

Five hours later, when I arrived home in Virginia I went to pull up the article I had read in the morning to possibly use it in a piece of my own and was somewhat surprised to discover that the bit about Israel had been excised from the text. It was clearly yet another example of how the media self-censors when there is anything negative to say about Israel and it underlines the significance of the emergence of recent international media reporting in The Guardian and elsewhere regarding how Jewish billionaire Sheldon Adelson largely dictates U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. That means that the conspiracy of silence over Israel’s manipulation of the United States government is beginning to break down and journalists have become bold enough to challenge what occurs when pro-Israel Jews obtain real power over the political process. Adelson, for what it’s worth, wants war with Iran and has even suggested detonating a nuclear device on its soil to “send a message.”

I personally would have liked to see Ocasio-Cortez go farther, a lot farther. Israel is a place where conventional morality has been replaced by a theocratically and culturally driven sense of entitlement which has meant that anything goes when it comes to the treatment of inferior Christian and Muslim Arabs. It also means that the United States is being played for a patsy by people who believe themselves to be superior in every way to Americans.

The question of the relationship with Israel comes at a time when everyone in America, so it seems, is concerned about children being separated from their parents who have illegally crossed the border from Mexico into the United States. The concern is legitimate given the coarse and sometimes violent justifications coming out of the White House, but it’s a funny thing that Israeli abuse and even killing of Arab children is not met with the same opprobrium. When a Jewish fanatic/Israel settler kills Palestinian children and is protected by his government in so doing, where is the outrage in the U.S. media? Settlers and soldiers kill Palestinians, young and old, with impunity and are almost never punished. They destroy their orchards and livestock to eliminate their livelihoods to drive them out. They bulldoze their homes and villages. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency does none of that and is yet subject to nonstop abuse in the mainstream media, so what about Israel?

A recent story illustrates just how horrible the Israelis can be without any pushback whatsoever coming from Washington objecting to their behavior. As the United States is the only force that can in any way compel Israel to come to its senses and chooses not to do so, that makes U.S. policymakers and by extension the American people complicit in Israel’s crimes.

The particularly horrible recent account that I am referring to describes how fanatical Jewish settlers burned alive a Palestinian family on the West Bank, including a baby, and then celebrated the deaths while taunting the victims’ surviving family when they subsequently appeared in court. The story was covered in Israel and Europe but insofar as I could determine did not appear in any detail in the U.S. mainstream media.

Israeli Jewish settlers carried out their shameful deed outside a court in the city of Lod, chanting “’Ali was burned, where is Ali? There is no Ali. Ali is burned. On the fire. Ali is on the grill!” referring to the 18-month old baby Ali Dawabsheh, who was burnt alive in 2015 by Jewish settlers hurling Molotov cocktails into a house in the West Bank town of Duma. Ali’s mother Riham and father Saad also died of their burns and were included in the chanting “Where is Ali? Where is Riham? Where is Saad? It’s too bad Ahmed didn’t burn as well.” Five year-old Ahmed, who alone survived the attack with severe burns, will have scars for the rest of his life.

The settlers were taunting Ali’s grandfather Hussein Dawabsheh, who accompanied Ahmed, at a preliminary hearing where the court indicted a man who confessed to the murders and a minor who acted as an accomplice. A video of the chanting shows Israeli policemen standing by and doing nothing. The court appearance also revealed that there have been another Molotov cocktail attack by settlers on another Dawabsheh family house in May that may have been an attempt to silence testimony relating to the first attack. Fortunately, the family managed to escape.

And by all accounts this outrage was not the first incident in which the burning of the Palestinian baby was celebrated. A December 15th wedding video showed settlers engaged in an uproarious party that featured dances with Molotov cocktails and waving knives and guns. A photo of baby Ali was on display and was repeatedly stabbed. A year later, 13 people from what became known as the “murder wedding” were indicted for incitement to terrorism, but as of today no one has actually been punished. Israelis who kill Arabs are rarely indicted or tried. If it is a soldier or policeman that is involved, which occurs all too often, the penalty is frequently either nothing at all a slap on the wrist. Indeed, the snipers who fired on Gazans recently were actually ordered to shoot the unarmed civilians and directed to take out anyone who appeared to be a “leader,” which included medical personnel.

The Trump Administration could, of course, stop the Israeli brutality if it chooses to do so, but it does not think Benjamin Netanyahu’s crimes against humanity are on the agenda. Nor did Clinton, Bush and Obama dare to confront the power of Israel’s lobby, though Obama tried a little pushback in a feeble way.

Someone in Washington should be asking why the United States should be fighting unnecessary wars and becoming an international pariah defending a country and people that believe they are “chosen” by God? One can only hope that the shift in perceptions on the Middle East by liberal Democrats like Ocasio-Cortez has some legs and will lead to some real change in U.S. foreign policy. To succeed the liberal Democrats will need to push against some formidable obstacles within their own party, most notably the Clinton wing and people like Senator Chuck Schumer, Minority leader in the Senate, who describes himself as Israel’s “shomer” or defender in the Upper House. Perhaps someone on the New York Times editorial board should publicly suggest to Schumer that he go and run for office in Israel since he seems to prefer it to the country that has made him rich and powerful. But of course, the Times and all the other mainstream media, which is responsible for what we are not allowed to know about Israel and its American mouthpieces, will never entertain that suggestion or anything like it.

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is www.councilforthenationalinterest.org, address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected]

 
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  1. Philip Giraldi is daring. I found this video clip of him physically attacking the monster AIPAC.

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    • Replies: @chris
    Yeah, except that AIPAC isn't resting, it's busy trying to screw all the other animals.

    Still, I can see how you came to post this video, after probably searching in vain for a video showing anything even remotely approaching a humane treatment of Palestinians by Jewish settlers.

    , @Wally
    How it is:

    http://68.media.tumblr.com/639563970a638b606f4adb0ef05c778b/tumblr_inline_o7t4eewwJn1r75mb5_500.jpg

    www.codoh.com
    , @Pat Kittle
    Amusing, but not quite accurate.

    Philip Giraldi is not running away.
    , @Echoes of History
    AIPAC's foundation is Cuckianity. Try attacking that.

    “The more I study New Testament,” Dr. Levine said, “the better Jew I become.”

    Focusing on the Jewish Story of the New Testament
    www.nytimes.com/2011/11/26/us/a-jewish-edition-of-the-new-testament-beliefs.html
     
    Jew Testament says:

    John 4:22 Salvation is from the Jews.
    Romans 1:16 The Jew first.
    Romans 9:4 The people of Israel, chosen.
    Romans 15:27 Gentiles have shared in the Jews' spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.
     
    Friedrich Nietzsche put it best.

    "Christianity, sprung from Jewish roots and comprehensible only as a growth on this soil, represents the counter-movement to any morality of breeding, of race, privilege: it is the anti-Aryan religion par excellence. Christianity—the revaluation of all Aryan values, the victory of chandala values, the gospel preached to the poor and base, the general revolt of all the downtrodden, the wretched, the failures, the less favored, against 'race:' the undying chandala hatred is disguised as a religion of love."
     
    , @donut
    That is funny . Maybe he can bell the cat .
    , @Eileen Kuch
    Philip Girardi, that's the best video clip ever, I absolutely love it! You just made my day! Keep up the good work, and keep on hounding AIPAC and all other such organizations.
    , @FB
    I don't like to see the majestic lion, who is also a victim of inhumanity on a huge scale, depicted in this kind of analogy...and even being labeled a 'monster'...not in good taste...next time find a better analogy...
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  2. chris says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    Philip Giraldi is daring. I found this video clip of him physically attacking the monster AIPAC.

    https://i.giphy.com/media/l3q2NoJWfSClRdgcg/giphy-downsized-large.gif

    Yeah, except that AIPAC isn’t resting, it’s busy trying to screw all the other animals.

    Still, I can see how you came to post this video, after probably searching in vain for a video showing anything even remotely approaching a humane treatment of Palestinians by Jewish settlers.

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    • Replies: @Reality Check
    I long ago saved the image at the top of this article of the Israeli bubulas harassing the Palestinian lady. I've posted it often on Yahoo with this caption: The gallant zionists show courage confronting this grandmotherly Palestinian "terrorist" brandishing a deadly suicide serving tray!
    , @Peter Maya
    WHY is it that JEWS have this deep profound self assertive conviction that their words, their, books, their religion, their race, their "god", their opinions, ARE the absolute truth...without any objective, NON jewish EVIDENCE...they usually start by sayin that GOD spoke to Xjew, and that Xjew wrote a jew book and that's now the eternal truth...!!! why? A jew (human) claims to speak to God and how an that be proven? by asking another human, with equally fallible humaninty???....IF themiracles in the New testament are false then the "miracles" in the old testament are false also like the parting of the Red Sea, God never spoke to Abraham, Sarah never got pregnant at 78yrs old...How can jews hold that all Christian, Muslim dogma are absurd and ridiculous but all JEWISH unproven, irrational absurd claims are not??? Human wrote the Talmud, the Torah, The Zohar etc...NOT God so al human sources are fallible and therefore might even be completely false. Moses wrote the book of Genesis and claimed that God spoke to Abraham Moses wrote that alleged absurdity more tna 3K yrs after the fantastical myth...ONLY Historical FACTS are the WILL of GOD...and Palestinains were in Canaan long before the jews, and the Jewish tribes lost Canaan just as Vikings, Celts, Aztecs lost their lands those are historical FACTS and therefore the will of GOD. A Balfour declaration, a UN Resolution is NOT the WILL of GOd those are the will of corrupt men...so GOD will ct upon history to rectify it..and Palestinians will regain their rightful god given lands,,,,Israel was build upn lies, fraud, extortions, genocide and will eventually implode from within...no jewish blood millions, billions can violate the eternal laws of History...
    , @Carl Shackelford
    Well said, Chris. His is a comment made by a bully, secure in his mindset because he has surrounded himself with like-minded bullies.
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  3. Rational says:

    WHEN IS MUELLER GOING TO INVESTIGATE AIPAC MEDDLING IN EVERY ELECTION?

    Thanks for the excellent article, like usual, Mr. Giraldi. Great points. Both parties are on the payroll of AIPAC. USA is banana republic, of Israel.

    It is amazing the fake news network called CNN talks about the fake Russian interference in the last election the whole day, but AIPAC interferes in every election of virtually every candidate and virtually every President. When is Mueller going to investigate the biggest foreign lobby in USA—AIPAC?

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Discussion on another thread of motives Israel might have had for killing JFK included suggestions that the Kennedy brothers attempts to get Zioniist lobbyists to register as foreign agents might have been very serious for Israel. Without doing the research which a lawyer being paid for his opinion would put into it I nonetheless formed a confident view that the argument had no legs.

    No it appears AIPAC isn't a foreign lobby. If you don't like what it does you would say it is much worse - but untouchable by Mueller.

    It is perhaps peripheral to your comment but I suggest that the reality is that the same rich Americans who have long supported Israel have set up perfectly legal American organizations that happen to reflect Israeli policy in their lobbying without being legally controlled or controllable by Israel.
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  4. FKA Max says: • Website

    One paragraph in particular in the article I read was highly suggestive, the claim that Ocasio-Cortez had been strongly opposed to the Israelis’ routine slaughter of Palestinians in Gaza, which has by now become of such little import that it is not even reported any more in the U.S. media.

    This is one of the positive aspects/side effects of a larger Hispanic population in the U.S.:

    The same goes for the U.S., the more (especially Hispanic) Catholic the U.S. becomes, by (Mexican, etc.) immigration and/or higher Hispanic birth rates, the less pro-Israel it will be.

    Views are more mixed among Hispanic Catholics – 36% sympathize more with Israel and 25% more with the Palestinians, while 24% volunteer that they sympathize with neither side.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/05/23/5-facts-about-how-americans-view-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-lobby-british-style/#comment-2049211

    The Trump Administration could, of course, stop the Israeli brutality if it chooses to do so, but it does not think Benjamin Netanyahu’s crimes against humanity are on the agenda.

    I agree. It’s not gonna happen…

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    I actually believe that Jews have less power in the U.S. than they have in Russia, this is why I, personally, prefer the U.S. to Russia despite all its shortcomings, etc., however under Trump, at least on the executive branch level, this has been changing because of Ivanka and Jared Kushner, etc.

    Besides having dual loyalties due to Israel, Jews are known to be one of the most ethnocentric/clannish ethnic-religious groups, with one of the highest rates of ethnic-religious networking and nepotism, etc.
    [...]
    Jews have a clannishness rating comparable to Southern Europeans (6-7), which is pretty high, but with Orthodox Jews it is even higher, probably in the 8-11 range
    [...]
    if we take 1 as the least clannish and 10 as the most clannish,
    [...]
    1 – the english (not all of them — probably not the cornish, for instance), some of the dutch
    2 – the scandinavians
    3 or 4 – the irish
    6-7 – the italians, the greeks, the chinese
    7-8 – the albanians
    10 – the yanomamo
    11 – the arabs

    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/no-fifth-column-in-the-kremlin-think-again/#comment-2399889

    Laibach : YISRA’EL

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    • Replies: @renfro
    If people want to use polls I suggest they use the gold standard WPOP fielded by the Unv of Maryland instead of polls like Pew which are funded by the Pew Charitable Trust , which is basically a 'Think Tank" that then presents its polls to congress trying to affect political decisions on issues. People need to be wary of what is an 'opinion maker' instead of just an opinion taker.

    Here is a more detailed accurate picture.....bear in mind also that evans are only 10% of the population and other factors like party affiliation affect their views. One also has to wonder "IF" the evans as well as the other public were exposed to the real story on Israel and not the slanted version of the US med how that would affect the numbers.

    http://worldpublicopinion.net/what-americans-especially-evangelicals-think-about-israel-and-the-middle-east/

    What Americans (especially Evangelicals) think about Israel and the Middle East
    Evangicals, International Action, Israel, Middle East / North Africa, Views on Countries/Regions December 4, 2015,

    A new poll shows that in dealing with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict overall, an overwhelming 77% of Evangelical Republicans want the United States to lean toward Israel as compared to 29% to Americans overall and 36% of non-Evangelical Republicans.

    In contrast 66% of all Americans and 60% of Non-Evangelical Republicans want the United States to lean toward neither side.

    This pattern holds on other aspects of US policy toward the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. If the UN Security Council considers endorsing the establishment of a Palestinian state, only 26% of all Americans and 38% of non-Evangelical Republicans favor the US voting against it. However six in ten Evangelical Republicans say that the US should vote against it, thus vetoing the move.

    Evangelical Republicans also differ in that they pay far more attention to a candidate’s position on Israel. When considering which candidate to vote for in Congress or for president just 26% of all Americans and 33% of non-Evangelical Republicans say they consider the candidates position on Israel a lot. Among Evangelical Republicans 64% say they consider it a lot.
    Views of Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also vary dramatically. Among the general public just 32 percent have a favorable view of Netanyahu, as do 47 percent of non-Evangelical Republicans. Favorable views rise to 66% among Evangelicals.
    When asked, in an open-ended question, to name a national leader they most admire 22 percent of Republican Evangelicals chose Netanyahu, far more than any other leader.
    Among Non-Evangelical Republicans 9 percent named Netanyahu and 6 percent for the public as a whole.
    Evangelical Republicans represent 23% of all Republicans and 10% of the general population.
    “There are of course partisan differences on Middle East policy in American public attitudes, but what’s most striking is that much of the differences between Republicans and the national total disappears once one sets aside Evangelical Republicans, who constitute 10% of all Americans” said Shibley Telhami, the poll’s principal investigator. “The Israel issue in American politics is seen to have become principally a Republican issue, but in fact, our results show, it’s principally the issue of Evangelical Republicans.”

    One possible explanation for Evangelical Republicans’ attitudes is their religious views. Sixty-six percent of Evangelical Republicans say that for the rapture or Second Coming to occur it is essential for current-day Israel to include all the land they believe was promised to Biblical Israel in the Old Testament, with 35% holding this view strongly.
    The poll was sponsored by the Sadat Chair at the University of Maryland, and conducted in cooperation with the University’s Program for Public Consultation, and released at the Brookings Institution. It was fielded by Nielsen Scarborough November 4-11, 2015, among a nationally representative sample of online panelists of 875, plus an oversample of Evangelicals/Born-Again Christians of 863. The margin of error is 3-4%.
    Other Select Findings:
    Overall, twice as many Americans say the Israeli government has too much influence (37%) than say too little influence (18%), while a plurality (44%) say it’s the right level. Among Democrats, about half (49%) say Israel has too much influence, compared with 14% who say Israel has too little influence, and 36% who say it’s the right level; Among Republicans, slightly more people say that Israel has too much influence (25%) than say it has too little influence (22%) with a slight majority (52%) saying it’s the right level. The percentage of people who think that Israel has too little influence increases with age: 8% of 18-24 year olds feel this way in contrast to 17% of 25-44 year olds, 20% of 45-64 year olds, and 22% of those who are 65 years of age and older.
    Given five options to explain the escalation of Israeli-Palestinian violence the largest number–31%–attributes it to the absence of serious peace diplomacy, while 26% blame continued Israeli occupation and settlement expansion in the West Bank, and the same number blame Palestinian extremists. Only 6% each blame Israeli extremists and Palestinian authority ineffectiveness
    Concerns about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are driven more by considerations related to human right and international law than US interests. Offered five options to explain their concern, the largest number — 47%– say human rights or international law, while 32% say America’s interest. Thirteen percent say cite religious beliefs, while 8% express concern for Israel’s interests.

    Overall, 37% of Americans (and 49% of Democrats) recommend punitive measures against Israel over its settlement policy (27% recommend economic sanctions, and 10% recommend taking more serious action); 31% recommend that the U.S. limits its opposition to words, 27% recommend that the U.S. do nothing.
    American views of Muslims are strikingly partisan. While 67% of Democrats express favorable views of Muslims, only 41% of Republicans do.
    73% of Evangelicals say that world events will turn against Israel the closer we get to the rapture or end and 78% say that the unfolding violence across the Middle East is a sign that the end times are nearer.
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  5. Someone says:

    No one should know this better than the Jews- that negativity never ends well.

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    • Replies: @Don Hermiston
    America has always been complicit in Israel's crimes. When it comes to keeping the Jewish lobbies and the dual citizens in the government happy, morality and ethics are thrown out the window. The constant murder and maiming of Palestinians, including many women and children, can only end badly for the Jewish state and for international Jewry in general. Thugs like Netanyahu believe they will get away with this insanity forever simply because America has their back. But, unfortunately for Netanyahu more and more people are waking up Israel's and the Jewish lobbies crimes. Even though the media is in the hands of the perpetrators these crimes will eventually be met with a massive public resistance. America's involvement in wars which do not benefit the country if not checked will eventually bankrupt the nation. America is already seen as a pariah in most of the world. The founding fathers of the greatest constitution on this earth must be rolling in their graves. The three levels of government meant to keep tyranny in check has been discarded and the power of war-making has been given to one man, the President or more succinctly to the powers behind the President. The political Status Quo in America is pure folly.
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  6. Alfred says:

    Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ, but they are an ugly race. They are also dreadful at sport.

    When it comes to fighting, they prefer the Americans to do it for them. How about an article showing their – lack – of prowess in sport or on the catwalk?

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    • Replies: @Rogue
    I always like Mr Giraldi's articles but some of the comments can be a bit crappy. Like yours, for example.

    I've never been to Israel but everyone I know who has and with no axe to grind, has commented on how stunning the young Israeli women were.

    You might be more right about the sport issue, although coming from South Africa it used to be said (in the past) that you could only have a successful Springbok rugby team (national team) if you had a jew in it.

    Anyway, I'm certainly not defending Israel's actions, but some people just mouth off the first bit of rubbish that comes to mind.
    , @KDM
    I’m neutral about Jews & Israel (neither a fan nor an enemy) but ugly?? You’re assertion is a pretty sweeping generalization, Natalie Portman & Gal Godot (not sure if that last name is spelled correctly) are just two drop dead gorgeous Ashkenazi Israeli’s that come to mind. You may or may not have a point about the men, I’ve never paid attention but I think some of the women definitely got the chosen status in the looks department. (Oh and I’m a straight (white) American female if it matters at all, but I can appreciate beauty when I see it)
    , @Wally
    What, or who gives you the impression that "Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ"?

    I can only guess.

    If Jews were really so smart they would have conjured up a better, more believable story than their impossibly fake & stupid '6,000,000 & gas chambers'.

    www.codoh.com
    , @Colin Wright
    'Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ, but they are an ugly race. They are also dreadful at sport.

    When it comes to fighting, they prefer the Americans to do it for them. How about an article showing their – lack – of prowess in sport or on the catwalk?'

    Meh. For sports, Hank Greenberg and Sandy Koufax come to mind. As to looks -- well, I can recall some decided counter-examples.

    I've actually got no problem at all with Jews -- just so long as I can think of them separately from Israel.

    My difficulty is that it's getting to be twenty years since I've been able to do that.

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  7. Argentina canceled an exhibition soccer match in Jerusalem, vs. the Israeli national team. https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/israel-angry-over-argentina-cancellation-of-football-match/4427385.html. A “friendly” just prior to the World Cup in Russia.

    It shows how even a country not known as a champion for human rights, is going to have to look at things in a different light if Israel is so blatant in its violent actions.

    So yes the Democrats are going to have to change. It will be tough, no question. The Republicans will not change. They will likely benefit with even more money from big donors.

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    • Replies: @c matt
    I suppose they could spin it as protest, but I am sure security concerns were also a factor.
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  8. Wally says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    Philip Giraldi is daring. I found this video clip of him physically attacking the monster AIPAC.

    https://i.giphy.com/media/l3q2NoJWfSClRdgcg/giphy-downsized-large.gif
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    Welcome to The Jewnited Snakes Of Amerika.
    , @USAF JAG VET
    Much to my profound frustration and chagrin, the U.S. military - in which I served as an officer during the first Gulf War - should more aptly be called the Israeli Foreign Legion. I was a young man at the time and full of patriotic fervor. I did not know what Bush the Elder meant when he spoke of a New World Order. If I only knew then what I know now.

    Mothers and fathers, please think long and hard before sending your sons and daughters to fight and die for the criminal, rogue nation of Israel.
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  9. Tyrion 2 says: • Website

    I personally would have liked to see Ocasio-Cortez go farther, a lot farther. Israel is a place where conventional morality has been replaced by a theocratically and culturally driven sense of entitlement which has meant that anything goes when it comes to the treatment of inferior Christian and Muslim Arabs

    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    The criticism of Israel in Western media is disproportionately extremely high given the much higher rates of this type of thing in the majority of the rest of the world.

    As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn’t that seem like the most humane way to deal with it? What does Giraldi suggest they do?

    I suppose Western anti-Semites see Western countries going down because they are unable to deal with this type of thing and get jealous and want to drag Israel down with them. I prefer that America follow the example of Matteo Salvini. Giraldi prefers ‘abolish borders’ Cortez. Indeed, he’d like her to “go a lot farther”.

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    • Replies: @LondonBob
    As Kevin Macdonald would point out Middle Eastern peoples are extreme in their ethnocentricism, explaining the chronic instability in the region, but Jews are at the extreme end of that extremism. The media does a good job of covering up the hypoethnocentricism evident in Jewish life in Israel and the West.
    , @Echoes of History

    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country.
     
    Better yet to be a Jewish minority in any place but Israel.

    It's weird how the vast majority of Jews themselves can't be persuaded into moving to Israel, but would rather be a minority elsewhere. Why is that so? Not so great a place as you purport?

    The total number of people who hold or are eligible for Israeli citizenship under the Law of Return is estimated at around 23 million, of which 6.6 million were living in Israel as of 2015. wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country
     
    , @Incitatus
    “The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots.”

    Correction. They’re unrepentant murderers, empowered by disgusting zealots tolerated (if not pampered) by Likud.

    “But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on”

    The ‘they do it too’ defense? So what? How many F-35s is the US giving Iraq, Syria, Iran?

    Why should Likud conduct be excused by comparing it to those Israel routinely condemns?

    “As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn’t that seem like the most humane way to deal with it?”

    Does “sniping” mean shooting/killing/maiming unarmed people from a safe distance? Without risk to the sniper?

    That’s “more humane” than water-cannon, tear gas, and other non-lethal restraint? For the sniper, perhaps, but for the victim?

    Sounds like the same rationalization murderers used at Babi-Yar.

    “The criticism of Israel in Western media is disproportionately extremely high given the much higher rates of this type of thing in the majority of the rest of the world.”

    American media is disproportionately silent in criticism of Likud compared with Israeli media. Why?

    “I suppose Western anti-Semites see Western countries going down because they are unable to deal with this type of thing and get jealous and want to drag Israel down with them.”

    In other words, Trump should use snipers and live fire on illegal immigrants crossing borders? Wow!
    , @anti_republocrat
    Now that the Israeli-backed head choppers and liver eaters have been defeated, Syria has returned to the the multi-confessional, pluralistic paradise it always was when compared with the abomination West of the Jordan River. Before the establishment of the Zionist state, Jews as well as Christians were welcome in Arab states. Even after 1948, Sephardim did not immediately flock to Israel.

    When Ashkenazi Zionists discovered they had created a labor shortage by ethnically cleansing Palestinians, they embarked on a propaganda and false flag campaign to get Sephardim to migrate to Israel, where many of those well-educated and formerly wealthy Jews were discriminated against and forced to take menial jobs. The false flags designed specifically to stampede Jews out of Iraq are well documented, so don't lie about it, Tyrion. Jews were among the wealthiest of Iraqis, and had little organic reason to emigrate. The propaganda of Arab governments expelling the Sephardim is largely false.

    The racist, European (white) supremacist narrative (what Edward Said called "Orientalism") that Arabs and Muslims are always killing each other and Europe must intervene for humanitarian reasons is actively cultivated by Israel in order to justify its own ethno-supremacist society. That's why Israel encourages Wahhabi terrorism emanating from the Gulf.
    , @Antiwar7
    Imagine if they just started shooting the leaders of Occupy Wall Street, from a safe distance, of course.

    Or ICE just shooting people that try to cross the border. From a safe distance, of course.

    Who would criticize that?
    , @bjondo

    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.
     
    The minority groups in Iran, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, would laugh at you and the Jew of Iran prefer Iran to Israel. These sorts of lunatics, without Israeli, West interference, are rare in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    Israel is dominated by disgusting zealots. Israel is a zealot state of zealots.

    Does hasbarRat mean blatant liar?

    Also,

    another excellent article by Philip Giraldi.

    , @MacNucc11
    "Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on."

    You are so right, I mean our media are so anti Jewish that they refuse to report on jewish children being burned alive in Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc. Damn our media really are a bunch of liars. I mean why keep promoting a false story about Iran developing nuclear weapons when you have dynamite material like baby jews being burned alive?
    , @Deschutes
    Excuse me, but you're full of shit.
    , @Tsigantes
    "Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country."

    Utter nonsense and patently untrue: obviously written by one of the IDF trolls.

    I have lived and worked in 7 different MENA countries over 30 years and absolutely the worst place in the entire Middle East to live as a minority is in Israel, without doubt; it is also one of the least enjoyable places to visit as a tourist for the same reason. Israel is for Israelis only and even within that there is a caste system with the thoroughly charmless Ashkenazis at the top.
    , @chris

    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.
     
    Why do you post such an obvious lie ? Who are you trying to influence here ? We all know this is crap.

    As you well know, not only is there still a Jewish community in Iran, but until the Israeli-US wars in the middle East, there were such communities in Iraq, Syria, and Libya as well. Syria's tapestry of Shia, Suni, Christian and Jewish communities have been living together peacefully for hundreds of years !

    In view of the lat 70 years, but especially the last month, to claim that it's "Better to be a minority in Israel," is a cynical and pathetic joke, you coward.
    , @David
    "Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country."
    Nonsense!! Classic hasbara, i.e., "whataboutery."

    Reality:
    Setting aside Israel's well docmented gross violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention i.e., "Collective Punishment" regarding its imprisonment of two million Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and its repeated mass slaughters of them by land, sea and air, e.g., 2,500, including over 500 children, in Operation Protective Edge.

    Israel is and always has been a racist ethnocracy, i.e., a political structure in which the state apparatus is appropriated by a dominant ethnic group to further its interests, power and resources. In short, apartheid.

    To wit:
    Hendrik Verwoerd, then prime minister of South Africa and the architect of South Africa’s apartheid policies, 1961: “Israel, like South Africa, is an apartheid state.” (Rand Daily Mail, November 23, 1961)

    Jacobus Johannes Fouché, South African Minister of Defence during the apartheid era, compared the two states and said that Israel also practiced apartheid. (Gideon Shimoni (1980). Jews and Zionism: The South African Experience 1910-1967. Cape Town: Oxford UP. pp. 310–336. ISBN 0195701798.

    “Former Foreign Ministry director-general invokes South Africa comparisons. ‘Joint Israel-West Bank’ reality is an apartheid state”
    EXCERPT: “Similarities between the ‘original apartheid’ as it was practiced in South Africa and the situation in ISRAEL [my emphasis] and the West Bank today ‘scream to the heavens,’ added [Alon] Liel, who was Israel’s ambassador in Pretoria from 1992 to 1994. There can be little doubt that the suffering of Palestinians is not less intense than that of blacks during apartheid-era South Africa, he asserted.” (Times of Israel, February 21, 2013)

    Video: Israeli TV Host Implores Israelis: Wake Up and Smell the Apartheid
    https://www.youtube.com/wat…

    In its 2015 Country Report on Human Rights Practices for Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories, published in 2016, the U.S. Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor acknowledges the “institutional and societal discrimination against Arab citizens of Israel.”

    Ronnie Kasrils, a key player in the struggle against the former South African apartheid regime, minister for intelligence and a devout Jew: “The Palestinian minority in Israel has for decades been denied basic equality in health, education, housing and land possession, solely because it is not Jewish. The fact that this minority is allowed to vote hardly redresses the rampant injustice in all other basic human rights. They are excluded from the very definition of the ‘Jewish state’, and have virtually no influence on the laws, or political, social and economic policies. Hence, their similarity to the black South Africans [under apartheid].” (The Guardian, 25 May 2005)

    Shlomo Gazit, retired IDF Major General: "[Israel's] legal system that enforces the law in a discriminatory way on the basis of national identity, is actually maintaining an apartheid regime." (Haaretz, July 19, 2011)

    Israel also differentiates between citizenship and nationality, i.e., “Israeli” nationality does not exist, only Jews and non-Jews, and each citizen carries an appropriate identity card. While the implications of this absurdity for discrimination and racism against non-Jews are obvious, it has been upheld by Israel’s Supreme Court.

    The effect of its blatantly racist “Citizenship Law” and more than fifty other restrictions Arab citizens have to endure is well expressed by writer and Knesset member, Ahmed Tibi: “…dutifully defining the state as ‘Jewish and democratic,’ ignores the fact that in practice ‘democratic’ refers to Jews, and the Arabs are nothing more than citizens without citizenship.” (Ma’ariv, 1.6.2005)

    For the record: Eminent Jewish Israeli journalist, Bradley Burston, aptly sums up the horrors Israel inflicts on Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and occupied East Jerusalem:
    “Occupation is Slavery”
    EXCERPT:
    “In the name of occupation, generation after generation of Palestinians have been treated as property. They can be moved at will, shackled at will, tortured at will, have their families separated at will. They can be denied the right to vote, to own property, to meet or speak to family and friends. They can be hounded or even shot dead by their masters, who claim their position by biblical right, and also use them to build and work on the plantations the toilers cannot themselves ever hope to own. The masters dehumanize them, call them by the names of beasts.” (Haaretz, Feb. 26/13)

    , @Sam J.
    "...As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders..."

    Is not the land the Israelis are shooting from Palestinian land in the first place?
    , @FB

    '...As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn’t that seem like the most humane way to deal with it? What does Giraldi suggest they do?..'
     
    Anyone who can characterize the Gaza border slaughter in this way is mentally unbalanced...

    I don't know what Mr Giraldi would suggest but we have seen any number of large, often violent, protests across Europe over the last year, particularly in France...none of these resulted in police sharpshooters killing 300 protesters...or even one single protester...

    The referendum protests in Catalonia had far greater numbers and police moved aggressively to secure public spaces etc...a few people were roughed up and that was rightly condemned as excessive...imagine if a person had been killed...

    You're simply a disgusting little dolt...

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  10. Mishra says:

    Washington’s spinelessness enables Israeli brutality

    Why is “Washington” spineless? Why don’t the people demand more principled leaders?

    Well, where do the people get their ideas anyway? The mass media.

    Who owns the mass media? Why can’t it even be discussed?

    All we get on this topic is lies, some right here on UNZ.

    Yet some here now and then dare to speak the truth.

    And as a result this site is under assault.

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    Well, where do the people get their ideas anyway? The mass media.
     
    In Germany there was recently a bad case of antisemitism which was reported widely in the media. A large newspaper had a long article telling how a Jewish pupil in an elite school in Berlin was harassed or bullyed for months and that the school didn't do enough to protect him. It's a school to which the sons of ambassators, of diplomatic personal and of the international high class community in Berlin go. The article brought many details about the case: how they told the pupil that Ausschwitz wasn't far away (or something similar) and so on. The case even came in the television news of the main German channel (I only watched the late news, but I think that the case also came in the absolutely main news of German television at 8 o'clock P.M.). The media spoke of "antisemitism in Berlin." A pupil was harassed and told a few unpleasant things in a school in Berlin and this came in the main tv news of the country! The most important weekly magazine had also an article about "antisemitism in Berlin". At the end of the long article they told something that the other midia hadn't told. The pupil had been harassed because he favoured the Palestinians! The colleagues who bullyed him were probably American Jews.
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  11. Guess every night in Israel is Kristallnacht… for the Palestinians… these porcine hypocrites and their unending whining about “The Holocaust” ..

    Jesus wept.

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  12. EOLAWKI says:

    Washington is not spineless. Washington is bought and paid for. In America, the general rule is that money rules, and the people (and their political representatives!) follow.

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    Money is a big problem but money doesn't always work. One of the ways to fight money is to make a point of how much money the other side is spending and "doxx" the big donors. If you have access to the internet, you can get a lot of publicity quite cheaply. That's why it's important to keep the internet uncensored and keep social media companies from working to promote some views and suppress others, which they do routinely. The recent Irish referendum on abortion saw heavy intervention by social media companies on the pro-choice side.
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  13. @Carlton Meyer
    Philip Giraldi is daring. I found this video clip of him physically attacking the monster AIPAC.

    https://i.giphy.com/media/l3q2NoJWfSClRdgcg/giphy-downsized-large.gif

    Amusing, but not quite accurate.

    Philip Giraldi is not running away.

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  14. “… I could only imagine if 60 people were shot and killed in Ferguson. Or if 60 people were shot and killed in the West Virginia teachers’ strikes.”

    Only 60? We really have become a nation of p*****s. If we’re going to be an empire that pushes the rest of the world around, we need to act like one. The Byzantine General Belisaurius, under Justinian I, put down the Nika riots by killing as many as 30,000 people, and the Byzantine empire went on for another 900 years. If we dither over 60 people, we won’t last another 50 years.

    As for the Israelis, they are sowing the seeds of their own destruction, but given the number of nukes they are reputed to have and the global reach they seem to have, they are going to take the rest of us with them if the US simply walks away from them and leaves them on their own.

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  15. Feeding the golem is not surprising behavior from a country in which the best selling book, concocted by Jews, implores that shekels must flow to the Jews in gratitude for Jewish story-telling about a fantasy afterlife with a magical rabbi in a New Jerusalem.

    “They owe it to the Jews.” Romans 15:27

    Men who yearn to be the Bride of a Jew are easily fucked by the same.

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    The verse in question was specifically regarding the church in Jerusalem. In other words, financial help by gentile believers for Jewish followers of Jesus who were impoverished at that time.

    It is not to be interpreted as a general charity for Jews, most of whom are hostile to Christianity both then and today. Bible verses have to be read within the context of the surrounding text.

    Zionism is hardly a religious movement.
    , @Z-man
    While I don't subscribe to your atheistic 'beliefs' and believe in our Lord Jesus Christ I like your line...

    Men who yearn to be the Bride of a Jew are easily fucked by the same.
     
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  16. Rogue says:
    @Alfred
    Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ, but they are an ugly race. They are also dreadful at sport.

    When it comes to fighting, they prefer the Americans to do it for them. How about an article showing their - lack - of prowess in sport or on the catwalk?

    I always like Mr Giraldi’s articles but some of the comments can be a bit crappy. Like yours, for example.

    I’ve never been to Israel but everyone I know who has and with no axe to grind, has commented on how stunning the young Israeli women were.

    You might be more right about the sport issue, although coming from South Africa it used to be said (in the past) that you could only have a successful Springbok rugby team (national team) if you had a jew in it.

    Anyway, I’m certainly not defending Israel’s actions, but some people just mouth off the first bit of rubbish that comes to mind.

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    No, jewish women are not stunning, the average jewish women is uglier than average white women.
    , @Wally
    You must mean the beautiful Russian women who claim to be Jewish so they can go to 'Israel' & get free stuff. Thanks to US taxpayers, that is.

    The average female Jew, well, the description 'mud fence' comes to mind.

    www.codoh.com

    , @c matt
    Sure, take the top 5% of practically any ethnicity and they are going to be attractive. If I had to choose an "average" female in looks from particular ethnic group, I would take an Icelandic woman.
    , @Anonymous34
    A couple decades ago about fifteen family members and acquaintances spent quite a few weeks in Israel building a restaurant for a European investor. They were all Americans and non-Jewish. Generally, they ended up really hating the place. Their biggest complaint was that as soon as the Israelis found out you weren't Jewish they treated you like crap.

    On the day they were leaving their flight to Paris was cancelled and they were told there would be no more direct flights until the following day. Rather than spend one more night in Israel, the entire crew coughed up an extra $1k each to get re-routed through Greece and Italy.
    , @renfro
    Nose jobs and hair re-dos for Jewish girls have made some more attractive and made a lot of plastic surgeons and cosmetologist rich. ...but in general Jewish girls aren't very attractive compared to other groups.
    Oddly enough the perception of their less attractiveness has persisted thru out and despite the popular cycles of what is considered attractive.
    , @Swan Knight
    Agree. Israeli women are hot. The diet there is heavy on fish and legumes, little junk food. Compulsory IDF service keeps them fit. If I could have a dying wish, it would be to fuck Gal Gadot. That does not change the other charges against Israel.
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  17. LondonBob says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I personally would have liked to see Ocasio-Cortez go farther, a lot farther. Israel is a place where conventional morality has been replaced by a theocratically and culturally driven sense of entitlement which has meant that anything goes when it comes to the treatment of inferior Christian and Muslim Arabs
     
    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    The criticism of Israel in Western media is disproportionately extremely high given the much higher rates of this type of thing in the majority of the rest of the world.

    As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn't that seem like the most humane way to deal with it? What does Giraldi suggest they do?

    I suppose Western anti-Semites see Western countries going down because they are unable to deal with this type of thing and get jealous and want to drag Israel down with them. I prefer that America follow the example of Matteo Salvini. Giraldi prefers 'abolish borders' Cortez. Indeed, he'd like her to "go a lot farther".

    As Kevin Macdonald would point out Middle Eastern peoples are extreme in their ethnocentricism, explaining the chronic instability in the region, but Jews are at the extreme end of that extremism. The media does a good job of covering up the hypoethnocentricism evident in Jewish life in Israel and the West.

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    Jews are probably the least ethnocentric, other than the 4% of global population that is Western European, in the world.
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  18. Z-man says:

    That crazed looking group of young fanatical Zionists taunting a Palestinian mother and child is a classic. ZOG has got to be defeated!
    However , speaking of that ‘Latina’ who beat a political hack in Queens and the Bronx, she’s already started to edit some of her internet posts. She knows who rules and will get in line with the ‘mainstream’ Zionist party line. She’s also an ‘open borders’ radical which doesn’t sit well with the likes of me and most Americans. She’s also a ‘Bronx girl’ by way of suburban Westchester county, lol. As phony as phony gets.

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    They'll straighten her out soon enough.
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  19. Rogue says:
    @Echoes of History
    Feeding the golem is not surprising behavior from a country in which the best selling book, concocted by Jews, implores that shekels must flow to the Jews in gratitude for Jewish story-telling about a fantasy afterlife with a magical rabbi in a New Jerusalem.

    "They owe it to the Jews." Romans 15:27
     
    Men who yearn to be the Bride of a Jew are easily fucked by the same.

    The verse in question was specifically regarding the church in Jerusalem. In other words, financial help by gentile believers for Jewish followers of Jesus who were impoverished at that time.

    It is not to be interpreted as a general charity for Jews, most of whom are hostile to Christianity both then and today. Bible verses have to be read within the context of the surrounding text.

    Zionism is hardly a religious movement.

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    Context of the surrounding text? Got it specified for ya:

    "THE JEW FIRST." Romans 1:16
     
    Only cucks would accept being humble second-raters in a Hebrew salvation cult.

    Zionism is hardly a religious movement? Maybe you think the Bible isn't religious, hmm?


    • "From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates." -2 Kings 24:7

    • "From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates." -Diary of Theodor Herzl, whom the the Declaration of Establishment of State of Israel declares to be the "spiritual father" of Zionism
    www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpolicy/peace/guide/pages/declaration%20of%20establishment%20of%20state%20of%20israel.aspx
     

    Funny how a supposedly non-religious movement has a "spiritual father." And Zionism would never have flourished without Western Cuckianity's eager support.

    We're marching to Zion,
    Beautiful, beautiful Zion!

     
    Muh Greatest Ally!
    , @Anthony Aaron
    And yet, the jews in israel use the idea behind the verse to convince fundamentalist Christians -- those who believe in the Old Testament (the biggest post-hypnotic suggestion of all time) -- to contribute to various causes in israel because of the 'poor jews' who cannot afford this or that.

    Basically, israel promises all sorts of stuff to those who exercise their right of return -- but they don't want to pay with their own money. Hence they go after those gullible enough to believe all of the OT nonsense.

    You doubt me? Explain all of the late night commercials by israeli organizations hustling buck$ from fundamentalist Christians …
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  20. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @LondonBob
    As Kevin Macdonald would point out Middle Eastern peoples are extreme in their ethnocentricism, explaining the chronic instability in the region, but Jews are at the extreme end of that extremism. The media does a good job of covering up the hypoethnocentricism evident in Jewish life in Israel and the West.

    Jews are probably the least ethnocentric, other than the 4% of global population that is Western European, in the world.

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    Jews are probably the least ethnocentric
     
    Because Jews are cosmocentric. The center of the whole universe.
    , @LondonBob
    Actually Europeans, NW Europeans in particular, score lowest on the ethnocentric tests. Hence the campaign to end slavery, and no one else in the world would allow hostile groups to come to their territory and lecture them on how their country should be governed.
    , @L.K
    Zionist shill 'Tyrion':

    Jews are probably the least ethnocentric, other than the 4% of global population that is Western European, in the world
     
    Hahahahaha... good one!

    You zio shills really are shameless LIARS!
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  21. @Tyrion 2

    I personally would have liked to see Ocasio-Cortez go farther, a lot farther. Israel is a place where conventional morality has been replaced by a theocratically and culturally driven sense of entitlement which has meant that anything goes when it comes to the treatment of inferior Christian and Muslim Arabs
     
    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    The criticism of Israel in Western media is disproportionately extremely high given the much higher rates of this type of thing in the majority of the rest of the world.

    As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn't that seem like the most humane way to deal with it? What does Giraldi suggest they do?

    I suppose Western anti-Semites see Western countries going down because they are unable to deal with this type of thing and get jealous and want to drag Israel down with them. I prefer that America follow the example of Matteo Salvini. Giraldi prefers 'abolish borders' Cortez. Indeed, he'd like her to "go a lot farther".

    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country.

    Better yet to be a Jewish minority in any place but Israel.

    It’s weird how the vast majority of Jews themselves can’t be persuaded into moving to Israel, but would rather be a minority elsewhere. Why is that so? Not so great a place as you purport?

    The total number of people who hold or are eligible for Israeli citizenship under the Law of Return is estimated at around 23 million, of which 6.6 million were living in Israel as of 2015. wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country

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    Not so great a place as you purport?
     
    I didn't purport it to be a great place. It certainly isn't Italy. It has nowhere like Provence in France. Or the outstanding beauty and human organisation of Bavaria.

    Better yet to be a Jewish minority in any place but Israel
     
    That is not hyperbole. That is certifiably insane.

    It’s weird how the vast majority of Jews themselves can’t be persuaded into moving to Israel
     
    I don't think it is strange that Jews tend to prefer to remain in their countries rather than move to another very different one (Israel). It is instead a strong pointer that being Jewish means a lot less to them than their relational loyalties.

    I suspect the only reason why any non-ultra-orthodox Jews move at all is because Western countries have become centrifugal societies that only make administrative claims on their citizens and so fail to offer a romantic alternative.
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  22. Clyde says:

    The pseudo-nakba drama that will never end has ended. Trump moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem and this ended the Paleo’s efforts to tear down the Israeli border fence. Gone like a light spring rain. Trump is also on the verge of finessing the fake Mueller Russian collusion investigations out of business. The Trumpian trifecta is getting his second man onto the Supreme Court, this has the Dems in a woeful tailspin. When Dems lose many seats this November they will broom out the useless Chuckie-Nancy combo.

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  23. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Echoes of History

    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country.
     
    Better yet to be a Jewish minority in any place but Israel.

    It's weird how the vast majority of Jews themselves can't be persuaded into moving to Israel, but would rather be a minority elsewhere. Why is that so? Not so great a place as you purport?

    The total number of people who hold or are eligible for Israeli citizenship under the Law of Return is estimated at around 23 million, of which 6.6 million were living in Israel as of 2015. wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country
     

    Not so great a place as you purport?

    I didn’t purport it to be a great place. It certainly isn’t Italy. It has nowhere like Provence in France. Or the outstanding beauty and human organisation of Bavaria.

    Better yet to be a Jewish minority in any place but Israel

    That is not hyperbole. That is certifiably insane.

    It’s weird how the vast majority of Jews themselves can’t be persuaded into moving to Israel

    I don’t think it is strange that Jews tend to prefer to remain in their countries rather than move to another very different one (Israel). It is instead a strong pointer that being Jewish means a lot less to them than their relational loyalties.

    I suspect the only reason why any non-ultra-orthodox Jews move at all is because Western countries have become centrifugal societies that only make administrative claims on their citizens and so fail to offer a romantic alternative.

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  24. @Mishra

    Washington's spinelessness enables Israeli brutality
     
    Why is "Washington" spineless? Why don't the people demand more principled leaders?

    Well, where do the people get their ideas anyway? The mass media.

    Who owns the mass media? Why can't it even be discussed?

    All we get on this topic is lies, some right here on UNZ.

    Yet some here now and then dare to speak the truth.

    And as a result this site is under assault.

    Well, where do the people get their ideas anyway? The mass media.

    In Germany there was recently a bad case of antisemitism which was reported widely in the media. A large newspaper had a long article telling how a Jewish pupil in an elite school in Berlin was harassed or bullyed for months and that the school didn’t do enough to protect him. It’s a school to which the sons of ambassators, of diplomatic personal and of the international high class community in Berlin go. The article brought many details about the case: how they told the pupil that Ausschwitz wasn’t far away (or something similar) and so on. The case even came in the television news of the main German channel (I only watched the late news, but I think that the case also came in the absolutely main news of German television at 8 o’clock P.M.). The media spoke of “antisemitism in Berlin.” A pupil was harassed and told a few unpleasant things in a school in Berlin and this came in the main tv news of the country! The most important weekly magazine had also an article about “antisemitism in Berlin”. At the end of the long article they told something that the other midia hadn’t told. The pupil had been harassed because he favoured the Palestinians! The colleagues who bullyed him were probably American Jews.

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    Thanks for the interesting news item.
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  25. …… but it’s a funny thing that Israeli abuse and even killing of Arab children is not met with the same opprobrium.

    Also the intentional starving of children in Yemen. And the huge pile of dead babies in Iraq, Libya and Syria. All of them murdered by Imperial Washington.

    I much prefer President Trump to any of the candidates he defeated in the primaries and general election. But I regret that he is a Jew.

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    Trump is not a Jew, just Jewifiied.
    , @KenH

    But I regret that he is a Jew.
     
    Well not genetically, of course, but I know what you mean and agree. He's essentially a Judaized white man who's slavishly devoted to Israel and yet many Jews on both sides of the spectrum still hate him with a passion. Truman was right that you can never please those GD people.
    , @sarz

    But I regret that [Trump] is a Jew.
     
    His mother was a Christian Scotswoman, so he is not halachically Jewish. But hiis father probably was. Like other well known cases of crypto-Jews, he was the head of the local KKK. There was a clipping from the New York Times from the twenties that reported on some action he took as the KKK head. That was mentioned during the Repiblican campaign, but was quickly dropped from the news and never mentioned again. Trump senior was a prominent supporter of Israel, donating to specifically religious outfits. Definitely not goyische behavior. And Trump's first teo wives are very likely Jews, so Ivanka's conversion should be taken with a load of kosher salt.

    I had known all this but till recently I had allowed for the possibility that his Judaic behavior was a complex act, and he was supporting the Judaic position on Israel and finance past the point of rationality to explode the empire from the inside. (I note that the much-maligned patriot and antisemite Roy Cohn was a very close friend of Trump's.) But seeing his relentless pursuit of Judaic goals I am now more inclined to think of him as a clumsy Judaic doing his damndest, and, hopefully, failing.
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  26. geokat62 says:

    Here’s an interesting tidbit about AOC:

    Newly popular Democratic politician hero and nominee for a seat in the U.S. Congress Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez used to have these words on her website:

    A Peace Economy

    “Since the invasion of Iraq in 2003, the United States has entangled itself in war and occupation throughout the Middle East and North Africa. As of 2018, we are currently involved in military action in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan, and Somalia. According to the Constitution, the right to declare war belongs to the Legislative body, not the President. Yet, most of these acts of aggression have never once been voted on by Congress. Alex believes that we must end the forever war by bringing our troops home and ending the air strikes and bombings that perpetuate the cycle of terrorism and occupation throughout the world.”

    Now they’re gone. Asked about it on Twitter, she replied:

    “Hey! Looking into this. Nothing malicious! Site is supporter-run so things happen -we’ll get to the bottom of it.”

    https://alethonews.com/2018/06/30/why-it-matters-that-peace-is-gone-from-ocasio-cortez-website/

    It’ll be interesting to see if these words ever reappear. I’ll keep you posted if and when that happens.

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    Another bait-and-switch. See also, DJT.

    Which reminds me: is Ms. Gabbard still speaking out against Big War?
    , @geokat62
    Well, that didn’t take long:

    Ocasio-Cortez Softens Stance On Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the Democratic candidate from New York City, is standing by her promise to “learn and evolve” regarding Middle East affairs, choosing on Sunday not to comment on a position until speaking to activists. Some, however, are accusing her of backpedaling now three times.

    Ocasio-Cortez took a neutral stance on a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in a live conversation hosted by left-wing American news program “Democracy Now!” the Jerusalem Post reported Tuesday.

    When asked if she still advocated for a two-state solution, she replied: “Well, you know I think this is a conversation that I am engaging in with activists right now because this is huge.”

    Without specifying the activists, Ocasio-Cortez added, “You know, especially over this weekend - and this is a conversation that I’m sitting down with lots of activists in this movement on and I’m looking forward to engaging this conversation.”

    This differs from the firm statements she made during an appearance on the PBS show “Firing Line” Friday, where she explained that she believes in Israel’s right to exist and a two-state solution.

    She said that her tweet condemning the violence on the Gaza border as a “massacre” was written “as an activist,” admitting that she is not an expert on Middle East affairs.

    “I come from the South Bronx, I come from a Puerto Rican background. And Middle Eastern politics is not exactly at my kitchen table every night,” she said. “But I also recognize that this is an intensely-important issue for people in my district, for Americans across the country. And I think at least what is important to communicate is that I am willing to listen.”

    https://forward.com/fast-forward/405855/ocasio-cortez-softens-stance-on-israeli-palestinian-conflict/?utm_content=daily_Newsletter_MainList_Title_Position-1&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily%20-%20M-Th%202018-07-18&utm_term=The%20Forward%20Today%20Monday-Friday
     
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  27. It will be interesting to see if Ocasio-Cortez will/can maintain her position on Israeli crimes. Public figures have a long history of backpedaling after getting the riot act read to them from the hebrew masters.

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    If she does it won't do her much good as the tribe neither forgives nor forgets.
    , @Carroll Price
    Like all other honest inexperienced upstarts, she'll spend the rest of her political life on her knees. begging forgiveness.
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  28. @WorkingClass

    ...... but it’s a funny thing that Israeli abuse and even killing of Arab children is not met with the same opprobrium.
     
    Also the intentional starving of children in Yemen. And the huge pile of dead babies in Iraq, Libya and Syria. All of them murdered by Imperial Washington.

    I much prefer President Trump to any of the candidates he defeated in the primaries and general election. But I regret that he is a Jew.

    Trump is not a Jew, just Jewifiied.

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  29. Z-man says:
    @Echoes of History
    Feeding the golem is not surprising behavior from a country in which the best selling book, concocted by Jews, implores that shekels must flow to the Jews in gratitude for Jewish story-telling about a fantasy afterlife with a magical rabbi in a New Jerusalem.

    "They owe it to the Jews." Romans 15:27
     
    Men who yearn to be the Bride of a Jew are easily fucked by the same.

    While I don’t subscribe to your atheistic ‘beliefs’ and believe in our Lord Jesus Christ I like your line…

    Men who yearn to be the Bride of a Jew are easily fucked by the same.

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    I'm not an atheist, Jew-worshiper. Why must you lie like a Jew? Because you're so codependent upon a race of people who openly laud their deceitful origins that you have become like them?

    May God (other European variations are Gott, Godin, Gotin, Woden, Wotan) show you his non-Kikeianity name when His Name is on your lips tomorrow, God's Day, Woden's Day, Wednesday.
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  30. utu says:
    @Tyrion 2
    Jews are probably the least ethnocentric, other than the 4% of global population that is Western European, in the world.

    Jews are probably the least ethnocentric

    Because Jews are cosmocentric. The center of the whole universe.

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    But that attitude hasn't worked too well for them historically. Slow learners they are.
    , @Tyrion 2
    I'm pretty sure white SJWs are the most cosmocentric (a proportion of whom are Jews. They find themselves (white people) to be responsible for absolutely every bad thing ever. What could be more "cosmocentric" than that?
    , @Don Hermiston
    That is about the stupidest thing anyone has ever posted. Jews are the most ethnocentric and believe in Jewish supremacism.
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  31. @Rational
    WHEN IS MUELLER GOING TO INVESTIGATE AIPAC MEDDLING IN EVERY ELECTION?

    Thanks for the excellent article, like usual, Mr. Giraldi. Great points. Both parties are on the payroll of AIPAC. USA is banana republic, of Israel.

    It is amazing the fake news network called CNN talks about the fake Russian interference in the last election the whole day, but AIPAC interferes in every election of virtually every candidate and virtually every President. When is Mueller going to investigate the biggest foreign lobby in USA—AIPAC?

    Discussion on another thread of motives Israel might have had for killing JFK included suggestions that the Kennedy brothers attempts to get Zioniist lobbyists to register as foreign agents might have been very serious for Israel. Without doing the research which a lawyer being paid for his opinion would put into it I nonetheless formed a confident view that the argument had no legs.

    No it appears AIPAC isn’t a foreign lobby. If you don’t like what it does you would say it is much worse – but untouchable by Mueller.

    It is perhaps peripheral to your comment but I suggest that the reality is that the same rich Americans who have long supported Israel have set up perfectly legal American organizations that happen to reflect Israeli policy in their lobbying without being legally controlled or controllable by Israel.

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    Without doing the research which a lawyer being paid for his opinion would put into it I nonetheless formed a confident view that the argument had no legs.
     
    '''......Without doing the research'.......well that is evident in your claim.

    Would suggest you read upon the Fulbright Senate Hearings on the ZOA-1963.....a hearing on fifth column ZOA propaganda infiltration of US media and press.

    But don't think you will...anytime someone says I didnt do the research but"...what they mean is the old ignoramus stand by of....'don't confuse me with the facts my mind's made up.'
    , @Winifred
    I'd like to remind Wizard of Oz that Michael Collins Piper, unlike you, did do the research in his book "Final Judgement" (currently being featured on UNZ) and came to an entirely different conclusion to you on the JFK assassination. Of course, the book was barely allowed to see the light of day, thanks to the usual mass Jewish outcry against it, and the author has since died (in strange circumstances, it is said). It's your facile argument that 'has no legs'.
    As for your view that AIPAC is not a foreign lobby, that is just a technical nicety. Why do all aspiring presidential candidates feel compelled to grovel and prostrate themselves before AIPAC on the topic of Israel if it is not a de facto foreign lobby?
    , @James Forrestal

    AIPAC isn’t a foreign lobby
     
    lol. When ya got nuttin', just go with pure, unalloyed chutzpah, eh? And just what does the "I" in "AIPAC" stand for again? Are any of the jews living in the US who support the foreign, treasonous lobby AIPAC citizens of Israel, by any chance? You know that a group that lobbies for the interests of a foreign nation, and that is controlled by citizens of that nation, is the very definition of a "foreign lobby"... don't you?

    You would benefit from reading "The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy." But you won't, of course. Why allow mere facts to impinge upon your deeply-held tribal delusions?

    And your deep (and comical) ignorance of the irrefutable case put forth by Piper is typical of your emotionally-based, incoherent "arguments," of course...
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  32. @utu

    Jews are probably the least ethnocentric
     
    Because Jews are cosmocentric. The center of the whole universe.

    But that attitude hasn’t worked too well for them historically. Slow learners they are.

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  33. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @utu

    Jews are probably the least ethnocentric
     
    Because Jews are cosmocentric. The center of the whole universe.

    I’m pretty sure white SJWs are the most cosmocentric (a proportion of whom are Jews. They find themselves (white people) to be responsible for absolutely every bad thing ever. What could be more “cosmocentric” than that?

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  34. Giraldi always says what needs to be said. Excellent article.

    Speaking of the news that evaporates–”The story was covered in Israel and Europe but insofar as I could determine did not appear in any detail in the U.S. mainstream media”–and of the stories that disappear an hour or so after they are posted…

    I’ve never come across anyone in the US who had seen or heard of the story that popped up on my monitor one day while working in a newsroom in Los Angeles, a headline piece by the BBC stating that the California legislature in Sacramento had just passed a resolution apologizing to Mel Gibson for the treatment he was subjected to after his drunken comments were illegally relayed to the press. The article also reported that legislation was passed increasing fines and jail penalties in California for anyone who illegally gave or sold arrest information to the media.

    The story had some serious bearing on our immediate market as numerous celebrities’ private medical information etc were being illegally gathered and sold to news outlets. I brought it to the attention of my (Jewish) chief editor who read the article, thanked me for the heads up, then completely ignored it.

    Shortly after the piece just evaporated from the BBC site, and to this day I can find no trace of it in their archives.

    On the subject of Jews celebrating the death of others, I have seen photos of them gaily cooking ‘Rachel Corrie pancakes’ to celebrate the death of the American student they brutally crushed to death with a tractor in occupied Palestine.

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    I remember -- in the very early days of the mass internet (i.e., the mid-'90s) -- reading articles online that were critical of either israel in particular or of jews in general.

    I would set aside those links and try them a couple of hours later -- not so strangely, they were gone almost 100% of the time.

    As someone once said in these very pages -- if you want to find out who's in control, just find out who you can't speak against.
    , @Jmaie

    I have seen photos of them gaily cooking ‘Rachel Corrie pancakes’
     
    Here's my take as a (non-Jewish) American.

    My sympathies are with the Palestinians with regards to trying somehow to estabilsh sustainable territorial boundaries. IMHO Israel is clearly stealing land by building settlements in the West Bank. But given the ad-hoc nature of the current borders and the intent of the various parties, , God/Allah knows how this can be reasonably adjudicated.

    I am ambivalent with regards to the plight of those in Gaza, Egypt is certainly in a position to help. The southern border is after all under their control.

    Launching random missiles into southern Israel (assuming that's an actual thing rather than propaganda on the Israeli's part) seems silly and unlikely to improve the situation.

    Both parties seem to regard the other as filth, undeserving of human compassion. How we move forward from here is beyond my ability to guess.

    Arab neighbors seem to view refugees as pawns to be kept in squalor for their own political aims.

    It seems like (and this is my own reading from afar) Hamas uses the "right of return" as an issue to turn gullible Palestinian youth into canon fodder. It's been 75 years and Israel is stronger than ever. Time to wake up and smell the coffee...

    There is so damn much much fault on both sides....

    Now, having said all that - Rachael Corrie pancakes? She was an idiot and I have not the slightest sympathy for her. I wish I'd thought the joke up....

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  35. @ISmellBagels
    It will be interesting to see if Ocasio-Cortez will/can maintain her position on Israeli crimes. Public figures have a long history of backpedaling after getting the riot act read to them from the hebrew masters.

    If she does it won’t do her much good as the tribe neither forgives nor forgets.

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  36. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @geokat62
    Here’s an interesting tidbit about AOC:

    Newly popular Democratic politician hero and nominee for a seat in the U.S. Congress Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez used to have these words on her website:

    A Peace Economy

    “Since the invasion of Iraq in 2003, the United States has entangled itself in war and occupation throughout the Middle East and North Africa. As of 2018, we are currently involved in military action in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan, and Somalia. According to the Constitution, the right to declare war belongs to the Legislative body, not the President. Yet, most of these acts of aggression have never once been voted on by Congress. Alex believes that we must end the forever war by bringing our troops home and ending the air strikes and bombings that perpetuate the cycle of terrorism and occupation throughout the world.”

    Now they’re gone. Asked about it on Twitter, she replied:

    “Hey! Looking into this. Nothing malicious! Site is supporter-run so things happen -we’ll get to the bottom of it.”

    https://alethonews.com/2018/06/30/why-it-matters-that-peace-is-gone-from-ocasio-cortez-website/
     
    It’ll be interesting to see if these words ever reappear. I’ll keep you posted if and when that happens.

    Another bait-and-switch. See also, DJT.

    Which reminds me: is Ms. Gabbard still speaking out against Big War?

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  37. IS THE LEASH NOW OFF THE ‘OTHER CIA?’

    https://southfront.org/is-the-leash-now-off-the-other-cia/

    Under Donald Trump, who is on record favoring CIA kidnapping and torture programs, the CIA has been given a green light to carry out “targeted assassinations.” Although most of these targeted kills have been carried out by drone attacks in Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Somalia, where civilian deaths from “collateral damage” are estimated to be well over three hundred, recent events point to the CIA’s return to the “bad old days,” when it engaged in a global program of assassinating political leaders.

    What would be the motive of the CIA in trying to kill Abiy Ahmed, Ethiopia’s first Muslim prime minister and an ethnic Oromo, and Zimbabwe’s president, Emmerson Mnangagwa?

    The common denominator is Israel. With Trump all but opening every filing cabinet and safe in the CIA to Israeli agents-of-influence, including his son-in-law Jared Kushner and his White House adviser and partner-in-crime, Jason Greenblatt, the murders of Ahmed and Mnangagwa would have been welcomed news in Jerusalem.

    The Israelis are fearful that Ahmed, known as “AA” in Ethiopia, will bring Ethiopia, which has had historical links to Israel, closer to Arab and Muslim nations. That fear is shared by the Trump White House, which cannot distinguish between American and Israeli national security interests. Had AA been killed by the explosion that tore through a rally of his supporters in Addis Ababa’s central Meskel Square, killing two and injuring 156, Ethiopia’s foreign policy, including its closer ties to Turkey, would have altered course in Israel’s favor. As part of his reforms, Mnangagwa is investigating the activities of the Zimbabwean intelligence agency, the feared Central Intelligence Organization (CIO), which engaged in various covert operations with Israel’s Mossad during the Mugabe years.

    Mnangagwa’s policy of shining sunlight on the covert operations of the 5th Brigade, the CIO, and Mossad in Zimbabwe and neighboring countries would irritate Israeli embeds in the White House, including people like Kushner and Greenblatt.

    Kushner and Greenblatt, who have no military or foreign policy experience, except for their lavish service to Israel, have proven that inexperience is not a barrier to their meddling in foreign affairs. So long as neo-conservative war monger John Bolton is the national security adviser, the Kushner-Greenblatt duo will have a carte blanche to engage in as much subterfuge on behalf of Israel as they desire.

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    About "Abiy Ahmed, Ethiopia’s first Muslim prime minister and an ethnic Oromo"...I don't know.
    Maybe you're right. Maybe not.

    But is CIA trying to kill Emmerson Mnangagwa? Why ?

    Can you give an example of something that CIA wants that Emmerson Mnangagwa or any African president would refuse to give them in exchange of a fistful of dollars ?


    "Mnangagwa is busy cleaning up the corruption of his predecessor, the long-serving president Robert Mugabe. As part of his reforms, Mnangagwa is investigating the activities of the Zimbabwean intelligence agency, the feared Central Intelligence Organization (CIO), which engaged in various covert operations with Israel’s Mossad during the Mugabe years."

    Are you serious ? And where was Mnangagwa during that dark period in history of Zimbabwe ?

    I don't know who did it. But bearing in mind that it was a very incompetent attempt, I'd suggest to look for the culprits are at home.
    , @Anthony Aaron
    I hate to burst your bubble -- but those drone assassinations in Yemen and so on were done on the watch of that idiot-in-chief, b h o … and he did so with impunity.

    Since 1948, israel has insinuated itself into the control and operation of the United States government to the greatest extent possible -- via their dozens of PACs and so on. My law school was about 2/3 or more jews -- mostly from NYC -- and they gladly informed the few of us who were gentiles just what the true meaning of 'goyim' was -- that we were basically lower than whale shit at the bottom of the Marianna Trench near Japan. Their 2 primary mottos were: it's never good enough, it's never right enough; and, you can't do enough for me -- but don't stop trying.

    As for jews in the Cabinet -- you've obviously missed US politics and political history for the past 60 or 70 years, at least. Almost every top Cabinet position is -- and has been -- filled by jews. The head of the Fed has historically been a jew -- can't even remember when a gentile had hands on the nation's purse strings and money supply (after all, old man Rothschild said, when talking about funding both sides of the Napoleonic wars -- I don't want to control politics, I want to control the money supply. Whoever controls the money supply controls the nation.
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  38. Hi Phil,

    In your article posted here two (2) weeks ago at U.R., fyi, the enthusiastic & angry commenter “Harbinger” hit hard & perhaps unfairly at the articulate & well meaning dissident commenter “Art.”

    Harbinger’s key contribution was the absolute futility of using the ultra-corrupt & omnipresent Jewish (ZUSA) political system to change it for America’s benefit.

    We all recall a percentage of Americans having hope & faith in Kentucky Senator Rand Paul. Nonetheless, anxious to rise in ZUS presidential standing, Rand found it necessary to visit the Jerusalem’s Western (Wailing) Wall, & wearing a yarmulke. A.k.a., the necessity for kissing the correct ass.

    This year, Rand Paul cast the decisive vote to confirm warmongering Zionist Mike Pompeo as Secretary of State. (Zigh)

    Acknowledging impotent defeatism inherent in Harbinger’s & my position, I am sincerely open for all criticism here.

    P.S. Today is the 30th anniversary of the ZUS’s barbaric shooting down of the Iranian passenger plane, the Vincennes. 290 casualties! 66 children. US Navy guided missile Commander, William Rogers, was cleared of any wrongdoing & awarded America’s “Legion of Merit” medal.
    A question, my U.R. Brothers. Does anyone here recall any Congressional or Executive branch outrage?

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    That happened in 1988. I was active duty military then and the unit used to receive the "Navy Times", a newspaper for members of the Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard. I do not recall seeing any U.S. followup to the atrocity.
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  39. Zionists have controlled the U.S. government for over 100 years since the Zionist bankers got their privately owned FED and IRS passed through a compliant congress in 1913 and then began a series of wars and Zionist debt creation via their money creation out of thin air and taxing the goyim for the Zionist financial gain.

    Israel is sucking America dry via the welfare foreign aid and the blood of Americans forced to fight for Israel in the wars that the Zionists have created in the Mideast and congress would more accurately be called the lower house of the Knesset and the American armed forces the proxy arm of the IDF.

    If anyone doubts that Israel and the Zionists control America , just think about this, Israel and the Zionist controlled deep state did 911 and got away with it, that is control in spades, and don’t forget the Israeli attack on the USS LIBERTY and they got away with that also.

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    DESERT FOX wrote: "... , and don’t forget the Israeli attack on the USS LIBERTY and they got away with that also."

    Hi D-Fox,

    Above, thanks!

    A question.

    How many Americans do you think recall how the US Navy opened fire upon an easily identifiable Iranian passenger airplane? Refer below?

    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/07/03/566875/Iran-USS-Vincennes
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  40. LondonBob says:
    @Tyrion 2
    Jews are probably the least ethnocentric, other than the 4% of global population that is Western European, in the world.

    Actually Europeans, NW Europeans in particular, score lowest on the ethnocentric tests. Hence the campaign to end slavery, and no one else in the world would allow hostile groups to come to their territory and lecture them on how their country should be governed.

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    And yet white Western SJWs assign all moral agency only to white people.
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  41. anarchyst says:

    If a nuclear device is “lit off” in an American or European city, it will have Israel’s fingerprints all over it. Israel is desperate to keep the American money spigot running, as well as sabotaging the Palestinian “peace process” that the world wants it to take seriously.

    In fact, if a nuclear device is “lit off” anywhere in the world, it will have come from Israel’s secret nuclear “stockpile”.

    The “power outage” in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical “sleight of hand”, as an Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the “power outage” without receiving customs clearance or inspection. This is one of many Israeli companies that possesses a “special exemption” granted by the U S government that frees it from customs inspections. Just maybe another one of Israel’s nukes was just being pre-positioned or nuclear triggers (tritium) were being renewed, getting ready for “the big one”. As most Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel’s benefit, another “incident” on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel’s benefit. Israel’s “samson option” is a real threat to “light one off” in a European or American city, if Israel’s interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets “foreign aid” in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    When Netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, it was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of Israel…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and be deported to Israel…

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    Do those holding dual citizenship who must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship, including those who worship a foreign “King of Israel” (John 1:49) and pledge allegiance to a foreign capital city that they consider “Holy” (Rev. 21:2)?

    "For our citizenship is in America." (What Phillipians 3:20 doesn't say.)

    "You are fellow citizens with American nationals." (What Ephesians 2:19 doesn't say.)
     
    Of course the Jew Testament wouldn't say that, since it specifically commands those in thrall to the Jew to "hate" and "forsake" their own blood and soil. (Luke 14:26, Matthew 19:27-30)
    , @Anthony Aaron
    I remember the question of dual citizenship coming up in a law school class in immigration law.

    The professor (and the case law) showed that there was no dual citizenship for US Citizens until 1948 -- when the jews pretty much forced it upon us so that their israeli citizens could also be US Citizens (and vice-versa) -- without having to surrender US Citizenship in the process.

    That was a huge mistake -- but we had to do it to appease the jews.
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  42. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @LondonBob
    Actually Europeans, NW Europeans in particular, score lowest on the ethnocentric tests. Hence the campaign to end slavery, and no one else in the world would allow hostile groups to come to their territory and lecture them on how their country should be governed.

    And yet white Western SJWs assign all moral agency only to white people.

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    And yet white Western Cuckianity assigns all salvic agency only to Jews.

    "Salvation is from the Jews." -John 4:22
     
    As if the white man is incapable of saving himself, whatever saving he might or might not need.

    Cuckianity's effeminate co-dependency is what is feeding the monster.
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  43. Incitatus says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I personally would have liked to see Ocasio-Cortez go farther, a lot farther. Israel is a place where conventional morality has been replaced by a theocratically and culturally driven sense of entitlement which has meant that anything goes when it comes to the treatment of inferior Christian and Muslim Arabs
     
    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    The criticism of Israel in Western media is disproportionately extremely high given the much higher rates of this type of thing in the majority of the rest of the world.

    As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn't that seem like the most humane way to deal with it? What does Giraldi suggest they do?

    I suppose Western anti-Semites see Western countries going down because they are unable to deal with this type of thing and get jealous and want to drag Israel down with them. I prefer that America follow the example of Matteo Salvini. Giraldi prefers 'abolish borders' Cortez. Indeed, he'd like her to "go a lot farther".

    “The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots.”

    Correction. They’re unrepentant murderers, empowered by disgusting zealots tolerated (if not pampered) by Likud.

    “But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on”

    The ‘they do it too’ defense? So what? How many F-35s is the US giving Iraq, Syria, Iran?

    Why should Likud conduct be excused by comparing it to those Israel routinely condemns?

    “As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn’t that seem like the most humane way to deal with it?”

    Does “sniping” mean shooting/killing/maiming unarmed people from a safe distance? Without risk to the sniper?

    That’s “more humane” than water-cannon, tear gas, and other non-lethal restraint? For the sniper, perhaps, but for the victim?

    Sounds like the same rationalization murderers used at Babi-Yar.

    “The criticism of Israel in Western media is disproportionately extremely high given the much higher rates of this type of thing in the majority of the rest of the world.”

    American media is disproportionately silent in criticism of Likud compared with Israeli media. Why?

    “I suppose Western anti-Semites see Western countries going down because they are unable to deal with this type of thing and get jealous and want to drag Israel down with them.”

    In other words, Trump should use snipers and live fire on illegal immigrants crossing borders? Wow!

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    In other words, Trump should use snipers and live fire on illegal immigrants crossing borders? Wow
     
    Reality is such that if you have something really good and you are not willing to defend it with lethal force, after a moderate and sensible course of escalation - naturally, then you will not have that good thing very long.

    You can work from that undeniable fact as you will.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    A worthy contribution to keeping our Jewish friends on the civilised humane side of realism. As I said of the 2003 Iraq invasion about September of that year it was not impossible that we would forgive and forget the crimes and stupidity in 25 years time and effectively shrug off objections to the means because of the ends achieved. So we may all forget the barbarous behaviour of the IDF in recent months if it leads to the overthrow of Hamas and some viable settlement of the Palestinian problem. But it is barbarous and unnecessary (except for that imagined outcome: the overthrow of Hamas). My guess now is that in 15 years time the Gaza situation will look no better than the consequences of the 2003 war seen from 2018.
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  44. @DESERT FOX
    Zionists have controlled the U.S. government for over 100 years since the Zionist bankers got their privately owned FED and IRS passed through a compliant congress in 1913 and then began a series of wars and Zionist debt creation via their money creation out of thin air and taxing the goyim for the Zionist financial gain.

    Israel is sucking America dry via the welfare foreign aid and the blood of Americans forced to fight for Israel in the wars that the Zionists have created in the Mideast and congress would more accurately be called the lower house of the Knesset and the American armed forces the proxy arm of the IDF.

    If anyone doubts that Israel and the Zionists control America , just think about this, Israel and the Zionist controlled deep state did 911 and got away with it, that is control in spades, and don't forget the Israeli attack on the USS LIBERTY and they got away with that also.

    DESERT FOX wrote: “… , and don’t forget the Israeli attack on the USS LIBERTY and they got away with that also.”

    Hi D-Fox,

    Above, thanks!

    A question.

    How many Americans do you think recall how the US Navy opened fire upon an easily identifiable Iranian passenger airplane? Refer below?

    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/07/03/566875/Iran-USS-Vincennes

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    Zero/0. The Zionist controlled MSM could give lessons to Goebbels, and the Zionists have control of every facet of the U.S. gov and the MSM and the BANKS via the FED, we are a plantation for the Zionists.

    Another example of the Zionist controlled MSM is Afghanistan where Americans are guarding the poppy fields for the CIA/MOSSAD/MI6 drug running ops , but the Americans think we are bringing democracy , hell we don't have democracy here, it is ORWELL on steroids.
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  45. HBM says:

    She’ll change her tune if she wants to get to the big leagues. It’s only a matter of time.

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  46. @redmudhooch
    IS THE LEASH NOW OFF THE ‘OTHER CIA?’

    https://southfront.org/is-the-leash-now-off-the-other-cia/

    Under Donald Trump, who is on record favoring CIA kidnapping and torture programs, the CIA has been given a green light to carry out “targeted assassinations.” Although most of these targeted kills have been carried out by drone attacks in Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Somalia, where civilian deaths from “collateral damage” are estimated to be well over three hundred, recent events point to the CIA’s return to the “bad old days,” when it engaged in a global program of assassinating political leaders.

    What would be the motive of the CIA in trying to kill Abiy Ahmed, Ethiopia’s first Muslim prime minister and an ethnic Oromo, and Zimbabwe’s president, Emmerson Mnangagwa?

    The common denominator is Israel. With Trump all but opening every filing cabinet and safe in the CIA to Israeli agents-of-influence, including his son-in-law Jared Kushner and his White House adviser and partner-in-crime, Jason Greenblatt, the murders of Ahmed and Mnangagwa would have been welcomed news in Jerusalem.

    The Israelis are fearful that Ahmed, known as “AA” in Ethiopia, will bring Ethiopia, which has had historical links to Israel, closer to Arab and Muslim nations. That fear is shared by the Trump White House, which cannot distinguish between American and Israeli national security interests. Had AA been killed by the explosion that tore through a rally of his supporters in Addis Ababa’s central Meskel Square, killing two and injuring 156, Ethiopia’s foreign policy, including its closer ties to Turkey, would have altered course in Israel’s favor. As part of his reforms, Mnangagwa is investigating the activities of the Zimbabwean intelligence agency, the feared Central Intelligence Organization (CIO), which engaged in various covert operations with Israel’s Mossad during the Mugabe years.

    Mnangagwa’s policy of shining sunlight on the covert operations of the 5th Brigade, the CIO, and Mossad in Zimbabwe and neighboring countries would irritate Israeli embeds in the White House, including people like Kushner and Greenblatt.

    Kushner and Greenblatt, who have no military or foreign policy experience, except for their lavish service to Israel, have proven that inexperience is not a barrier to their meddling in foreign affairs. So long as neo-conservative war monger John Bolton is the national security adviser, the Kushner-Greenblatt duo will have a carte blanche to engage in as much subterfuge on behalf of Israel as they desire.

    About “Abiy Ahmed, Ethiopia’s first Muslim prime minister and an ethnic Oromo”…I don’t know.
    Maybe you’re right. Maybe not.

    But is CIA trying to kill Emmerson Mnangagwa? Why ?

    Can you give an example of something that CIA wants that Emmerson Mnangagwa or any African president would refuse to give them in exchange of a fistful of dollars ?

    “Mnangagwa is busy cleaning up the corruption of his predecessor, the long-serving president Robert Mugabe. As part of his reforms, Mnangagwa is investigating the activities of the Zimbabwean intelligence agency, the feared Central Intelligence Organization (CIO), which engaged in various covert operations with Israel’s Mossad during the Mugabe years.”

    Are you serious ? And where was Mnangagwa during that dark period in history of Zimbabwe ?

    I don’t know who did it. But bearing in mind that it was a very incompetent attempt, I’d suggest to look for the culprits are at home.

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  47. Sam Shama says:

    Back to the traditional feedlot.

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    Back to the traditional feedlot.

     

    Sez another "eternal victim."

    BTW, speaking of "tradition," how's them thar "holycaust" memorials coming, Sammy? And do they fund 'em with debt or only extorted or stolen funds?

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  48. @ChuckOrloski
    DESERT FOX wrote: "... , and don’t forget the Israeli attack on the USS LIBERTY and they got away with that also."

    Hi D-Fox,

    Above, thanks!

    A question.

    How many Americans do you think recall how the US Navy opened fire upon an easily identifiable Iranian passenger airplane? Refer below?

    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/07/03/566875/Iran-USS-Vincennes

    Zero/0. The Zionist controlled MSM could give lessons to Goebbels, and the Zionists have control of every facet of the U.S. gov and the MSM and the BANKS via the FED, we are a plantation for the Zionists.

    Another example of the Zionist controlled MSM is Afghanistan where Americans are guarding the poppy fields for the CIA/MOSSAD/MI6 drug running ops , but the Americans think we are bringing democracy , hell we don’t have democracy here, it is ORWELL on steroids.

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    Yet it is truly amazing how so many here that insist they are not a jew, always, always, always, Jump like Pavlov's Dogs at every chance for them to kneejerk defend all issues jewish and Israel.

    Not a one does the same when the issues are about, other than jews.

    A person could conclude that if they believe lib dem Marxist leftys have what many refer to as a Mental Sickness, of which I too agree on, then how else can one think of such Pavlov dog type automatic speed control support for, and total defense of all issues and all things done jewish. Than to consider that those so duped are even worse than mentally ill lib dems?

    Worse then lib dem mental illness, as in, Mentally Deranged dupes so eager to jump up and defend jewry in general, via unconditional defense of jews, based upon a total rejection of more solid documented and historical proofs galore of massive jewish guilt, in so many affairs and agendas and policies, that act in concert to wreck and ruin and bankrupt EVERY Nation jews have ever infiltrated. Than a person could research and study even if they lived to an age of 500 years old.

    Until of course those host nations themselves React and Boot jews Out, as has been done in at least 109-Prior host nations within the past aprox. 1800+/- years. And for a grand total of at least 300 separate Boot Out's.

    The mental block which acts to reject all such massive proofs, and allows a person to remain so duped and so willing to always Jump to unquestionable jew defense, and make endless excuses for what can rightfully be called. The Most Indefensible group of people ever to inhabit planet earth, is a phenom like No other. Plus most such dupes are not able to claim ignorance as their own personal defense, for most are in fact very intelligent folks based upon all else they comment on.

    If any new Mental Derangement syndrome, or mental illness should be added to that, Shrinks medical listing book of illness of the mind, a good start would be to add and include this mindless unquestioned, always, always defense of jews, No.. matter.. What.. jews did or do.
    , @jacques sheete

    The Zionist controlled MSM could give lessons to Goebbels
     
    Actually, the Zionists and Commies of the time DID provide lessons and examples for Goebbels. He was merely expressing astonishment at how effective they had been, not inventing the concept. As usual the freaks turned the facts around to make it sound as if Goebbels initiated the concepts of propaganda and brainwashing and the false charge sticks to this day, and none of Geobbels' propaganda had any effect whatsoever on the thinking of the masses outside Germany, while the Commie variety infected the vast masses worldwide.

    In fact, the Nazis were new to the game of mass BS and pikers compared to the banker backed Reds. The names of Bernays and Munzenberg, for example, can and should be associated with effective propaganda instead, but notice that they aren't. That fact itself is a fine example of effective propaganda.

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  49. @Z-man
    While I don't subscribe to your atheistic 'beliefs' and believe in our Lord Jesus Christ I like your line...

    Men who yearn to be the Bride of a Jew are easily fucked by the same.
     

    I’m not an atheist, Jew-worshiper. Why must you lie like a Jew? Because you’re so codependent upon a race of people who openly laud their deceitful origins that you have become like them?

    May God (other European variations are Gott, Godin, Gotin, Woden, Wotan) show you his non-Kikeianity name when His Name is on your lips tomorrow, God’s Day, Woden’s Day, Wednesday.

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    Asatru?
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  50. KenH says:
    @WorkingClass

    ...... but it’s a funny thing that Israeli abuse and even killing of Arab children is not met with the same opprobrium.
     
    Also the intentional starving of children in Yemen. And the huge pile of dead babies in Iraq, Libya and Syria. All of them murdered by Imperial Washington.

    I much prefer President Trump to any of the candidates he defeated in the primaries and general election. But I regret that he is a Jew.

    But I regret that he is a Jew.

    Well not genetically, of course, but I know what you mean and agree. He’s essentially a Judaized white man who’s slavishly devoted to Israel and yet many Jews on both sides of the spectrum still hate him with a passion. Truman was right that you can never please those GD people.

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    Please... any and all discussion of jews and race/genetics is disinformation.

    Self-identification with the Toroah-Pharisees-Talmud collective ideology is a choice! Genetics have nothing to do with it!
     
    it is a pathetic concept, supported endlessly by masses of trolls and embedded psy-agents, it is core, and utterly mandatory for the entire bullshit reality to keep their first victims, i.e. all adherents, in mental slavery.

    Please educate yourself about genetics before you comment about... genetics.
     
     

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  51. neutral says:
    @Rogue
    I always like Mr Giraldi's articles but some of the comments can be a bit crappy. Like yours, for example.

    I've never been to Israel but everyone I know who has and with no axe to grind, has commented on how stunning the young Israeli women were.

    You might be more right about the sport issue, although coming from South Africa it used to be said (in the past) that you could only have a successful Springbok rugby team (national team) if you had a jew in it.

    Anyway, I'm certainly not defending Israel's actions, but some people just mouth off the first bit of rubbish that comes to mind.

    No, jewish women are not stunning, the average jewish women is uglier than average white women.

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    No, jewish women are not stunning, the average jewish women is uglier than average white women.
     
    The obesity rate among Israeli women is a fraction of the US rate. That should be a fair starting point for an assessment.
    , @Authenticjazzman
    " No jewish women are not stunning". Of course not all Jewish women are stunning but many are indeed quite lovely.
    I had a Jewish girlfriend, late sixties, in Frankfurt and she was a raving beauty, a breath-taking trainstopper, brunette of course, and actually I prefer blonde ladies, my current, gorgeous German wife is blond in fact.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro Jazz artist.
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  52. KenH says:

    Ocasio-Cortez’s stance on Israel is about the only redeeming quality she has. Besides that she’s just your typical Latin American commie and anti-white revolutionary.

    But her heart only bleeds for those deemed “people of color” as Palestinians are. If she was consistent about upholding human rights around the world then she’d at least condemn the negro ANC in their genocidal campaign against the white S. Africans and white S. African farmers in particular.

    She claims to respect political protests but in reality only those she agree with and as long as they’re conducted by people of color against people of whiteness. Commies always cloak themselves in human rights, fairness and freedom garb , but if Ocasio-Cortez ever ascended to power here in America she’d happily resort to the use of machine guns, torture chambers and death camps for her political opponents and political dissidents.

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    I'm inclined to suspect similar things about her, but do you have evidence of her saying explicitly anti-white or pro-violence things?
    , @Authenticjazzman
    You nail it again. O-C is nothing short of a rabid mad-woman , a nut-case of huge dimensions, and she is the now "open" face of the lunatic Democrats. At least DT is bringing these crazies to the surface, and this is the only actual way to get on top of the situation : Exposure.

    As long as they were permitted to operate in the dark and disguised as "tolerant" human-rights advocates, they were able to further their goals.

    AJM
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  53. Nelle says:

    These people used to be called Judeonazis by Hebrew University chemistry professor Israel Shahak and by the noted “radio rabbi”, Rabbi Yeshayahu Leibowitz. Both predicted that the occupation would be Israel’s downfall. Likely it is the downfall of the Palestinian people and possibly the rest of us. (Note that Israel has nuclear weapons and its policy of “nishtagea” – pulling down the temple around Sampson-type threat – is meant to guarantee its hegemony in the region. That suits the US down to the ground, where the oil is.

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  54. @Rogue
    The verse in question was specifically regarding the church in Jerusalem. In other words, financial help by gentile believers for Jewish followers of Jesus who were impoverished at that time.

    It is not to be interpreted as a general charity for Jews, most of whom are hostile to Christianity both then and today. Bible verses have to be read within the context of the surrounding text.

    Zionism is hardly a religious movement.

    Context of the surrounding text? Got it specified for ya:

    “THE JEW FIRST.” Romans 1:16

    Only cucks would accept being humble second-raters in a Hebrew salvation cult.

    Zionism is hardly a religious movement? Maybe you think the Bible isn’t religious, hmm?

    • “From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.” -2 Kings 24:7

    • “From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.” -Diary of Theodor Herzl, whom the the Declaration of Establishment of State of Israel declares to be the “spiritual father” of Zionism
    http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpolicy/peace/guide/pages/declaration%20of%20establishment%20of%20state%20of%20israel.aspx

    Funny how a supposedly non-religious movement has a “spiritual father.” And Zionism would never have flourished without Western Cuckianity’s eager support.

    We’re marching to Zion,
    Beautiful, beautiful Zion!

    Muh Greatest Ally!

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    The early Zionists were mostly atheist. Zionists quoting the Bible for legitimacy of their land claims I'd take with a pinch of salt regarding their sincerity.

    As for Christianity having Jewish roots, yes I know.

    You are presumably a pagan?

    Well, that's up to you, but whilst I actually believe in the Christian God do you actually believe in the European pagan deities?
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  55. Off the map. First Tel Aviv, then DC.

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  56. AndrewR says:
    @KenH
    Ocasio-Cortez's stance on Israel is about the only redeeming quality she has. Besides that she's just your typical Latin American commie and anti-white revolutionary.

    But her heart only bleeds for those deemed "people of color" as Palestinians are. If she was consistent about upholding human rights around the world then she'd at least condemn the negro ANC in their genocidal campaign against the white S. Africans and white S. African farmers in particular.

    She claims to respect political protests but in reality only those she agree with and as long as they're conducted by people of color against people of whiteness. Commies always cloak themselves in human rights, fairness and freedom garb , but if Ocasio-Cortez ever ascended to power here in America she'd happily resort to the use of machine guns, torture chambers and death camps for her political opponents and political dissidents.

    I’m inclined to suspect similar things about her, but do you have evidence of her saying explicitly anti-white or pro-violence things?

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    but do you have evidence of her saying explicitly anti-white or pro-violence things?
     
    No to both, but she gave a shout out to BLM who once called for "Dead Cops Now!" at an NYC rally a couple of years ago, so she's guilty by association in my book. Some of her statements can fall into the implicitly anti-white category such as her reverence for "people of color" and spouting the Obamaism that "Your zip code determines your destiny" which is just leftist code talk for forcibly colonizing peaceful white middle class and wealthy neighborhoods with the black and brown lumpenproletariet.

    When Obama burst on the scene he was cast as an affable black man without the racial baggage and grievances of most blacks but his mascara started to fade months before the election and his mask completely fell within a year after it. I think that much like Obama as time passes information will emerge about Ocasio-Cortez's radicalism and radical associations not that it will make much difference to her predominantly non-white constituents or the judenpress.

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  57. KDM says:
    @Alfred
    Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ, but they are an ugly race. They are also dreadful at sport.

    When it comes to fighting, they prefer the Americans to do it for them. How about an article showing their - lack - of prowess in sport or on the catwalk?

    I’m neutral about Jews & Israel (neither a fan nor an enemy) but ugly?? You’re assertion is a pretty sweeping generalization, Natalie Portman & Gal Godot (not sure if that last name is spelled correctly) are just two drop dead gorgeous Ashkenazi Israeli’s that come to mind. You may or may not have a point about the men, I’ve never paid attention but I think some of the women definitely got the chosen status in the looks department. (Oh and I’m a straight (white) American female if it matters at all, but I can appreciate beauty when I see it)

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    I’m neutral about Jews & Israel (neither a fan nor an enemy) but ugly?? You’re assertion is a pretty sweeping generalization, Natalie Portman
     
    Plastic surgery has improved quite a lot over the years, yes.
    , @Carroll Price
    If you want to see some really stunning females, take a look at Iranian females.
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  58. @Tyrion 2
    And yet white Western SJWs assign all moral agency only to white people.

    And yet white Western Cuckianity assigns all salvic agency only to Jews.

    “Salvation is from the Jews.” -John 4:22

    As if the white man is incapable of saving himself, whatever saving he might or might not need.

    Cuckianity’s effeminate co-dependency is what is feeding the monster.

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    In 1900, the churches were full and the British ruled the world. In 2018, the churches are empty and the British don't even rule most of London.
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  59. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Echoes of History
    And yet white Western Cuckianity assigns all salvic agency only to Jews.

    "Salvation is from the Jews." -John 4:22
     
    As if the white man is incapable of saving himself, whatever saving he might or might not need.

    Cuckianity's effeminate co-dependency is what is feeding the monster.

    In 1900, the churches were full and the British ruled the world. In 2018, the churches are empty and the British don’t even rule most of London.

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    Good point.

    Nature abhors a vacuum. Western Europe has largely ejected Christianity.

    Islam will happily fill the void.
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  60. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Incitatus
    “The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots.”

    Correction. They’re unrepentant murderers, empowered by disgusting zealots tolerated (if not pampered) by Likud.

    “But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on”

    The ‘they do it too’ defense? So what? How many F-35s is the US giving Iraq, Syria, Iran?

    Why should Likud conduct be excused by comparing it to those Israel routinely condemns?

    “As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn’t that seem like the most humane way to deal with it?”

    Does “sniping” mean shooting/killing/maiming unarmed people from a safe distance? Without risk to the sniper?

    That’s “more humane” than water-cannon, tear gas, and other non-lethal restraint? For the sniper, perhaps, but for the victim?

    Sounds like the same rationalization murderers used at Babi-Yar.

    “The criticism of Israel in Western media is disproportionately extremely high given the much higher rates of this type of thing in the majority of the rest of the world.”

    American media is disproportionately silent in criticism of Likud compared with Israeli media. Why?

    “I suppose Western anti-Semites see Western countries going down because they are unable to deal with this type of thing and get jealous and want to drag Israel down with them.”

    In other words, Trump should use snipers and live fire on illegal immigrants crossing borders? Wow!

    In other words, Trump should use snipers and live fire on illegal immigrants crossing borders? Wow

    Reality is such that if you have something really good and you are not willing to defend it with lethal force, after a moderate and sensible course of escalation – naturally, then you will not have that good thing very long.

    You can work from that undeniable fact as you will.

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    Or we could just enforce strict immigration law, give nothing to illegals, and make sure to detain and deport. Prosecute those who hire them. Do no allow them to work or live here and they will stop coming.
    , @Incitatus
    “Reality is such that if you have something really good and you are not willing to defend it with lethal force, after a moderate and sensible course of escalation”

    Thanks for the lecture on “reality”. What a treat! Did we miss the “moderate and sensible” non-lethal means of restraint that ‘escalated’ to “lethal force”? Please enumerate them. Chronologically.

    With respect, the question is not willingness to defend a “good thing” with lethal force. Was the survival of Israel (which I support) ever in doubt? Is the survival of the US in doubt?

    The question is do you have a “good thing” when minorities are murdered and their murderers gloat and run free? Equally, it’s whether technology and relaxed morals (i.e. relativity, rationalization, laziness) licenses hubris.

    Still waiting:
    • How many F-35s is the US giving Iraq, Syria, Iran?
    • Why should Likud conduct be excused by comparing it to those Israel routinely condemns?
    • Does “sniping” mean shooting/killing/maiming unarmed people from a safe distance?
    • Is “sniping” “more humane” than water-cannon, tear gas, and other non-lethal restraint?
    • American media is disproportionately silent in criticism of Likud compared with Israeli media. Why?
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  61. Mulegino1 says:

    What are we to expect from a criminal state, founded by international terrorists like Ben Gurion, Begin, Yitzakh Shamir, etc.?

    If it had been Palestinian terrorists who had blown up the King David Hotel, murdered Lord Moyne and Count Folke Bernadotte, and Jewish women and children in Deir Yassin, you would see monuments to these victims all over the western world, Hollywood films by the score, and the kvetching from the usual suspects would only have been amplified over time. If it had been Palestinian terrorists who concocted the Lavon Affair false flag plan, or Palestinian naval and air forces which attacked an American naval vessel in broad daylight, flying a large American flag and attempted to murder the entire crew, likewise. There would be memorials in Arlington, and all over the U.S., to the brave crew members and their captain, whose actions saved the vessel. Instead all we get are crickets chirping.

    For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim. It doesn’t even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.

    How prescient and prophetic these words were, written decades before the founding of the criminal entity in Palestine! Israel does not serve as a Jewish homeland, it serves as a base of criminal operations, a weapons depot, and a sanctuary for international fugitives from justice

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    Boy! This is a powerful and very prescient commentary.
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  62. @Rogue
    The verse in question was specifically regarding the church in Jerusalem. In other words, financial help by gentile believers for Jewish followers of Jesus who were impoverished at that time.

    It is not to be interpreted as a general charity for Jews, most of whom are hostile to Christianity both then and today. Bible verses have to be read within the context of the surrounding text.

    Zionism is hardly a religious movement.

    And yet, the jews in israel use the idea behind the verse to convince fundamentalist Christians — those who believe in the Old Testament (the biggest post-hypnotic suggestion of all time) — to contribute to various causes in israel because of the ‘poor jews’ who cannot afford this or that.

    Basically, israel promises all sorts of stuff to those who exercise their right of return — but they don’t want to pay with their own money. Hence they go after those gullible enough to believe all of the OT nonsense.

    You doubt me? Explain all of the late night commercials by israeli organizations hustling buck$ from fundamentalist Christians …

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    "Right to return", says who?

    http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/479/110/152.jpg

    www.codoh.com
    , @Rogue
    I don't share your views on the OT, but I do agree with you about the Christian Zionist thing.

    I used to be one myself. I'm not now automatically anti Israel or anti Jewish, but I believe I can see more clearly now on these issues.

    Unfortunately, a lot of Christian Zionists, whilst they mean well, are somewhat superstitious with regards to calling spades, spades when it comes to the Jews /Israel question.

    This is based on the passage in the OT that tells about God promising to bless those who blessed Abraham, and cursing those who cursed him.

    It did apply to ancient Israel but now it applies to the church. Paul's writing in the NT makes this quite clear.

    What matters is circumcision of the heart, and not the flesh.
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  63. @Tyrion 2

    I personally would have liked to see Ocasio-Cortez go farther, a lot farther. Israel is a place where conventional morality has been replaced by a theocratically and culturally driven sense of entitlement which has meant that anything goes when it comes to the treatment of inferior Christian and Muslim Arabs
     
    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    The criticism of Israel in Western media is disproportionately extremely high given the much higher rates of this type of thing in the majority of the rest of the world.

    As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn't that seem like the most humane way to deal with it? What does Giraldi suggest they do?

    I suppose Western anti-Semites see Western countries going down because they are unable to deal with this type of thing and get jealous and want to drag Israel down with them. I prefer that America follow the example of Matteo Salvini. Giraldi prefers 'abolish borders' Cortez. Indeed, he'd like her to "go a lot farther".

    Now that the Israeli-backed head choppers and liver eaters have been defeated, Syria has returned to the the multi-confessional, pluralistic paradise it always was when compared with the abomination West of the Jordan River. Before the establishment of the Zionist state, Jews as well as Christians were welcome in Arab states. Even after 1948, Sephardim did not immediately flock to Israel.

    When Ashkenazi Zionists discovered they had created a labor shortage by ethnically cleansing Palestinians, they embarked on a propaganda and false flag campaign to get Sephardim to migrate to Israel, where many of those well-educated and formerly wealthy Jews were discriminated against and forced to take menial jobs. The false flags designed specifically to stampede Jews out of Iraq are well documented, so don’t lie about it, Tyrion. Jews were among the wealthiest of Iraqis, and had little organic reason to emigrate. The propaganda of Arab governments expelling the Sephardim is largely false.

    The racist, European (white) supremacist narrative (what Edward Said called “Orientalism”) that Arabs and Muslims are always killing each other and Europe must intervene for humanitarian reasons is actively cultivated by Israel in order to justify its own ethno-supremacist society. That’s why Israel encourages Wahhabi terrorism emanating from the Gulf.

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    Syria has returned to the the multi-confessional, pluralistic paradise it always was when compared with the abomination West of the Jordan River
     
    The number of deaths in a single year of the Syrian conflict exceed the last 70 years of the Palestinian-Israeli one. Try again.
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  64. @anarchyst
    If a nuclear device is "lit off" in an American or European city, it will have Israel's fingerprints all over it. Israel is desperate to keep the American money spigot running, as well as sabotaging the Palestinian "peace process" that the world wants it to take seriously.

    In fact, if a nuclear device is "lit off" anywhere in the world, it will have come from Israel's secret nuclear "stockpile".

    The "power outage" in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical "sleight of hand", as an Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the "power outage" without receiving customs clearance or inspection. This is one of many Israeli companies that possesses a "special exemption" granted by the U S government that frees it from customs inspections. Just maybe another one of Israel's nukes was just being pre-positioned or nuclear triggers (tritium) were being renewed, getting ready for "the big one". As most Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel's benefit, another "incident" on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel's benefit. Israel's "samson option" is a real threat to "light one off" in a European or American city, if Israel's interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets "foreign aid" in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    When Netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, it was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of Israel…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and be deported to Israel…

    Do those holding dual citizenship who must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship, including those who worship a foreign “King of Israel” (John 1:49) and pledge allegiance to a foreign capital city that they consider “Holy” (Rev. 21:2)?

    “For our citizenship is in America.” (What Phillipians 3:20 doesn’t say.)

    “You are fellow citizens with American nationals.” (What Ephesians 2:19 doesn’t say.)

    Of course the Jew Testament wouldn’t say that, since it specifically commands those in thrall to the Jew to “hate” and “forsake” their own blood and soil. (Luke 14:26, Matthew 19:27-30)

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    "25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and he turned and said to them, 26 “If anyone comes to me but ·does not hate [or loves more than me; C Jesus is using hyperbole to emphasize his point] his father, mother, wife, children, brothers, or sisters—or even ·life [life itself; or his own life]—he cannot be my ·follower [disciple]. 27 Whoever ·is not willing to [L does not] carry his own cross and follow me cannot be my ·follower [disciple]."

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke+14&version=EXB



    uhhh forsaking or departing to follow christ -- not israel - they are not the same thing.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+19&version=NKJV
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  65. Momus says:
    @neutral
    No, jewish women are not stunning, the average jewish women is uglier than average white women.

    No, jewish women are not stunning, the average jewish women is uglier than average white women.

    The obesity rate among Israeli women is a fraction of the US rate. That should be a fair starting point for an assessment.

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    Yes due to they carry most excess weight in their massive shnozz eh.
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  66. Antiwar7 says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I personally would have liked to see Ocasio-Cortez go farther, a lot farther. Israel is a place where conventional morality has been replaced by a theocratically and culturally driven sense of entitlement which has meant that anything goes when it comes to the treatment of inferior Christian and Muslim Arabs
     
    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    The criticism of Israel in Western media is disproportionately extremely high given the much higher rates of this type of thing in the majority of the rest of the world.

    As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn't that seem like the most humane way to deal with it? What does Giraldi suggest they do?

    I suppose Western anti-Semites see Western countries going down because they are unable to deal with this type of thing and get jealous and want to drag Israel down with them. I prefer that America follow the example of Matteo Salvini. Giraldi prefers 'abolish borders' Cortez. Indeed, he'd like her to "go a lot farther".

    Imagine if they just started shooting the leaders of Occupy Wall Street, from a safe distance, of course.

    Or ICE just shooting people that try to cross the border. From a safe distance, of course.

    Who would criticize that?

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    People are legitimately shot all of the time while engaging in property crimes in the US. That same attitude has not been applied to the Southern border, which is why tens of millions have crossed it illegally.

    If you prefer to never kill and lose your country, that is the American people's collective choice; but it is factually an extremist position if you look at the rest of the world and human history.
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  67. 2:1… that’s the ratio of disapproval vs approval of the Bronx Latina. Limey-come-lately, Johnny Derb and the pen-jockey, Paddy McDermott are riling up their bands to do something about the those damned mud people who are making the Wonder bread stale and then there is the good doctor who likes the she-dragon for her stand vis a vis the embattled Palestinians…

    As to the grotesque Adelson (who looks at his ill gotten, unspemt wealth and refuses to die), the only nuke they should throw isn’t on Persia but on his casino for biking the goyim, when no one is in the facility except him. I have no love lost for the Muslims and Arabs in particular but to want to kill the people who are still harboring tens of thousands of Jews while giving a pass to the real enemy is a sickness only an overfed shyster could suffer. The only thing Iran needs is to give up the Arab centric, medieval mediocrity called Islam and go back to the sublime Zoroastrian faith!

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    Dirty money does dirty things! It has no blessing!
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  68. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @anti_republocrat
    Now that the Israeli-backed head choppers and liver eaters have been defeated, Syria has returned to the the multi-confessional, pluralistic paradise it always was when compared with the abomination West of the Jordan River. Before the establishment of the Zionist state, Jews as well as Christians were welcome in Arab states. Even after 1948, Sephardim did not immediately flock to Israel.

    When Ashkenazi Zionists discovered they had created a labor shortage by ethnically cleansing Palestinians, they embarked on a propaganda and false flag campaign to get Sephardim to migrate to Israel, where many of those well-educated and formerly wealthy Jews were discriminated against and forced to take menial jobs. The false flags designed specifically to stampede Jews out of Iraq are well documented, so don't lie about it, Tyrion. Jews were among the wealthiest of Iraqis, and had little organic reason to emigrate. The propaganda of Arab governments expelling the Sephardim is largely false.

    The racist, European (white) supremacist narrative (what Edward Said called "Orientalism") that Arabs and Muslims are always killing each other and Europe must intervene for humanitarian reasons is actively cultivated by Israel in order to justify its own ethno-supremacist society. That's why Israel encourages Wahhabi terrorism emanating from the Gulf.

    Syria has returned to the the multi-confessional, pluralistic paradise it always was when compared with the abomination West of the Jordan River

    The number of deaths in a single year of the Syrian conflict exceed the last 70 years of the Palestinian-Israeli one. Try again.

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    He did say "has returned" so your reply may not be strictly responsive. Of course he is sticking his neck out with "paradise".
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  69. laughing — great clip . . . save for dr giraldi by all accounts is not running away having seized the cat by the tail he refuses to let go.

    However, the business of provoking conflicts such as described by dr. giraldi is not.

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  70. @ParadiseNow
    Giraldi always says what needs to be said. Excellent article.

    Speaking of the news that evaporates--"The story was covered in Israel and Europe but insofar as I could determine did not appear in any detail in the U.S. mainstream media"--and of the stories that disappear an hour or so after they are posted...

    I've never come across anyone in the US who had seen or heard of the story that popped up on my monitor one day while working in a newsroom in Los Angeles, a headline piece by the BBC stating that the California legislature in Sacramento had just passed a resolution apologizing to Mel Gibson for the treatment he was subjected to after his drunken comments were illegally relayed to the press. The article also reported that legislation was passed increasing fines and jail penalties in California for anyone who illegally gave or sold arrest information to the media.

    The story had some serious bearing on our immediate market as numerous celebrities' private medical information etc were being illegally gathered and sold to news outlets. I brought it to the attention of my (Jewish) chief editor who read the article, thanked me for the heads up, then completely ignored it.

    Shortly after the piece just evaporated from the BBC site, and to this day I can find no trace of it in their archives.

    On the subject of Jews celebrating the death of others, I have seen photos of them gaily cooking 'Rachel Corrie pancakes' to celebrate the death of the American student they brutally crushed to death with a tractor in occupied Palestine.

    I remember — in the very early days of the mass internet (i.e., the mid-’90s) — reading articles online that were critical of either israel in particular or of jews in general.

    I would set aside those links and try them a couple of hours later — not so strangely, they were gone almost 100% of the time.

    As someone once said in these very pages — if you want to find out who’s in control, just find out who you can’t speak against.

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    "As someone once said in these very pages — if you want to find out who’s in control, just find out who you can’t speak against."

    It was Voltaire who said it. And he said it better:

    "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."
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  71. c matt says:
    @Mark James
    Argentina canceled an exhibition soccer match in Jerusalem, vs. the Israeli national team. https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/israel-angry-over-argentina-cancellation-of-football-match/4427385.html. A "friendly" just prior to the World Cup in Russia.

    It shows how even a country not known as a champion for human rights, is going to have to look at things in a different light if Israel is so blatant in its violent actions.

    So yes the Democrats are going to have to change. It will be tough, no question. The Republicans will not change. They will likely benefit with even more money from big donors.

    I suppose they could spin it as protest, but I am sure security concerns were also a factor.

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  72. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Antiwar7
    Imagine if they just started shooting the leaders of Occupy Wall Street, from a safe distance, of course.

    Or ICE just shooting people that try to cross the border. From a safe distance, of course.

    Who would criticize that?

    People are legitimately shot all of the time while engaging in property crimes in the US. That same attitude has not been applied to the Southern border, which is why tens of millions have crossed it illegally.

    If you prefer to never kill and lose your country, that is the American people’s collective choice; but it is factually an extremist position if you look at the rest of the world and human history.

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    Jews mock killing of pregnant Palestinians and children.
    https://nawaat.org/portail/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/israel_t-shirt.jpg

    Two teenage Israeli girls carrying a placard in Hebrew reading: "Hating Arabs is not racism, it's values."
    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02962/jewish-girls_2962213c.jpg

    www.codoh.com

    , @chris

    If you prefer to never kill and lose your country
     
    But the problem in Israel is that it's not their country but the country they're in the process of stealing!

    Palestinians being shot in Gaza are being shot by the occupiers of their land, inside the concentration camp in which they've been forced to live.
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  73. Them Guys says:
    @Wally
    How it is:

    http://68.media.tumblr.com/639563970a638b606f4adb0ef05c778b/tumblr_inline_o7t4eewwJn1r75mb5_500.jpg

    www.codoh.com

    Welcome to The Jewnited Snakes Of Amerika.

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  74. Wally says:
    @Rogue
    I always like Mr Giraldi's articles but some of the comments can be a bit crappy. Like yours, for example.

    I've never been to Israel but everyone I know who has and with no axe to grind, has commented on how stunning the young Israeli women were.

    You might be more right about the sport issue, although coming from South Africa it used to be said (in the past) that you could only have a successful Springbok rugby team (national team) if you had a jew in it.

    Anyway, I'm certainly not defending Israel's actions, but some people just mouth off the first bit of rubbish that comes to mind.

    You must mean the beautiful Russian women who claim to be Jewish so they can go to ‘Israel’ & get free stuff. Thanks to US taxpayers, that is.

    The average female Jew, well, the description ‘mud fence’ comes to mind.

    http://www.codoh.com

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    Two of the most beautiful women I ever dated were Jewish.
    , @Rogue
    Gosh Wally, you are such a neutral when it comes to the Jews. Please, stop being such a fence-sitter. Tell us your real thoughts!

    BTW, how is anyone supposed to take your Codoh carry-on seriously? You often preface the Codoh web address with "no name calling, level playing field" but you're not exactly proof of that, are you?

    The Holocaust might be something of a scam (or at least lied about and exaggerated a lot), but you hardly strike me as the voice of neutral, academic concern.
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  75. @redmudhooch
    IS THE LEASH NOW OFF THE ‘OTHER CIA?’

    https://southfront.org/is-the-leash-now-off-the-other-cia/

    Under Donald Trump, who is on record favoring CIA kidnapping and torture programs, the CIA has been given a green light to carry out “targeted assassinations.” Although most of these targeted kills have been carried out by drone attacks in Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Somalia, where civilian deaths from “collateral damage” are estimated to be well over three hundred, recent events point to the CIA’s return to the “bad old days,” when it engaged in a global program of assassinating political leaders.

    What would be the motive of the CIA in trying to kill Abiy Ahmed, Ethiopia’s first Muslim prime minister and an ethnic Oromo, and Zimbabwe’s president, Emmerson Mnangagwa?

    The common denominator is Israel. With Trump all but opening every filing cabinet and safe in the CIA to Israeli agents-of-influence, including his son-in-law Jared Kushner and his White House adviser and partner-in-crime, Jason Greenblatt, the murders of Ahmed and Mnangagwa would have been welcomed news in Jerusalem.

    The Israelis are fearful that Ahmed, known as “AA” in Ethiopia, will bring Ethiopia, which has had historical links to Israel, closer to Arab and Muslim nations. That fear is shared by the Trump White House, which cannot distinguish between American and Israeli national security interests. Had AA been killed by the explosion that tore through a rally of his supporters in Addis Ababa’s central Meskel Square, killing two and injuring 156, Ethiopia’s foreign policy, including its closer ties to Turkey, would have altered course in Israel’s favor. As part of his reforms, Mnangagwa is investigating the activities of the Zimbabwean intelligence agency, the feared Central Intelligence Organization (CIO), which engaged in various covert operations with Israel’s Mossad during the Mugabe years.

    Mnangagwa’s policy of shining sunlight on the covert operations of the 5th Brigade, the CIO, and Mossad in Zimbabwe and neighboring countries would irritate Israeli embeds in the White House, including people like Kushner and Greenblatt.

    Kushner and Greenblatt, who have no military or foreign policy experience, except for their lavish service to Israel, have proven that inexperience is not a barrier to their meddling in foreign affairs. So long as neo-conservative war monger John Bolton is the national security adviser, the Kushner-Greenblatt duo will have a carte blanche to engage in as much subterfuge on behalf of Israel as they desire.

    I hate to burst your bubble — but those drone assassinations in Yemen and so on were done on the watch of that idiot-in-chief, b h o … and he did so with impunity.

    Since 1948, israel has insinuated itself into the control and operation of the United States government to the greatest extent possible — via their dozens of PACs and so on. My law school was about 2/3 or more jews — mostly from NYC — and they gladly informed the few of us who were gentiles just what the true meaning of ‘goyim’ was — that we were basically lower than whale shit at the bottom of the Marianna Trench near Japan. Their 2 primary mottos were: it’s never good enough, it’s never right enough; and, you can’t do enough for me — but don’t stop trying.

    As for jews in the Cabinet — you’ve obviously missed US politics and political history for the past 60 or 70 years, at least. Almost every top Cabinet position is — and has been — filled by jews. The head of the Fed has historically been a jew — can’t even remember when a gentile had hands on the nation’s purse strings and money supply (after all, old man Rothschild said, when talking about funding both sides of the Napoleonic wars — I don’t want to control politics, I want to control the money supply. Whoever controls the money supply controls the nation.

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  76. @Echoes of History
    Do those holding dual citizenship who must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship, including those who worship a foreign “King of Israel” (John 1:49) and pledge allegiance to a foreign capital city that they consider “Holy” (Rev. 21:2)?

    "For our citizenship is in America." (What Phillipians 3:20 doesn't say.)

    "You are fellow citizens with American nationals." (What Ephesians 2:19 doesn't say.)
     
    Of course the Jew Testament wouldn't say that, since it specifically commands those in thrall to the Jew to "hate" and "forsake" their own blood and soil. (Luke 14:26, Matthew 19:27-30)

    “25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and he turned and said to them, 26 “If anyone comes to me but ·does not hate [or loves more than me; C Jesus is using hyperbole to emphasize his point] his father, mother, wife, children, brothers, or sisters—or even ·life [life itself; or his own life]—he cannot be my ·follower [disciple]. 27 Whoever ·is not willing to [L does not] carry his own cross and follow me cannot be my ·follower [disciple].”

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke+14&version=EXB

    uhhh forsaking or departing to follow christ — not israel – they are not the same thing.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+19&version=NKJV

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    Echoes has obviously discovered that a person can browse through the bible, likely more so than any other book, and pretty much reinterpret verses as if they were their very own Pope, and make the bible say or approve of most anything they desire it to. They can take most any issue one can conjure or think up, and add personal Spin to out of full context bible verses, and cause it to mean or say or agree with whatever they wish it meant.

    Then there are those folks who understand that this has been an ongoing ordeal for as long as the bible has existed. What is even more baffling is how it seems that these anti-bible and anti Christian folks, actually try much harder and more often to convince others of their false interpretations and meanings etc. Than even the worst pro bible thumpers do when attempting to convince others to become a believer.

    The main difference is...The Thumper is trying to convince others of what they believe to be truth. And hold an real actual belief of.

    While the anti Christian and anti bible persons are so hard at work bashing something they claim does not even exist, or they do not believe in. If it does not even exist? or they do not believe in it...Why spend so much time writing or speaking of it?


    There may yet be a worse type, one who so misunderstands what they have read of the bible, that it confuses them into a non belief mode and lifestyle.
    , @Echoes of History
    The Jew you worship is the "King of Israel."

    John 1:49 "Rabbi, You are the Son of God; You are the King of Israel."

    John 12:13 "Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord, even the King of Israel."

    That's just a sampling. Plenty more Jewish swill here:
    http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Christ-Is-King-Of-Israel
     
    You're loyal to a foreign king in a foreign country. Which is why you have to "hate" your own blood (Luke 14:26) and "forsake" your own soil (Matthew 19:27-30), as Jesus commanded. And no, Jesus wasn't using "hyperbole," the Jew won't tolerate dual loyalties.

    You're as much of a blight on the American nation as any imported Muslim loyal to Muhammad.
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  77. Wally says:
    @Alfred
    Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ, but they are an ugly race. They are also dreadful at sport.

    When it comes to fighting, they prefer the Americans to do it for them. How about an article showing their - lack - of prowess in sport or on the catwalk?

    What, or who gives you the impression that “Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ”?

    I can only guess.

    If Jews were really so smart they would have conjured up a better, more believable story than their impossibly fake & stupid ’6,000,000 & gas chambers’.

    http://www.codoh.com

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    Wally writes:
    "What, or who gives you the impression that “Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ”?

    Do you not admire the super-intelligent trolls on this site? I thought we are all flabbergasted by their intelligence and knowledge.

    , @Momus
    Benthic Wally

    What, or who gives you the impression that “Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ”?
     
    This might be a start:

    "As of 2017, Nobel Prizes have been awarded to 892 individuals, of whom 201 or 22.5% were Jews, although the total Jewish population comprises less than 0.2% of the world's population. This means the percentage of Jewish Nobel laureates is at least 112.5 times or 11,250% above average."

    DeBeers, the South African Ashkenazi Jew diamond floggers, were credited with the 20th centuries best advertising campaign for turning a useful, very hard industrial mineral into the highest of high end luxury gemstones and essential bride's gift.

    In the same way that diamonds now exist as an object of unimpeachable value so does the Holocaust. The almost universal acceptance of the 6 million figure may be the second best marketing effort of the last 100 years.

    Me, I know that Hitler's Nazis set up the ideological and physical apparatus of their attempts to exterminate European Jewry but I cannot be sure of the numbers murdered. You, on the other hand, by mentioning the 6 million are carrying the water for the Holocaust historians. Thank you.

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  78. bjondo says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I personally would have liked to see Ocasio-Cortez go farther, a lot farther. Israel is a place where conventional morality has been replaced by a theocratically and culturally driven sense of entitlement which has meant that anything goes when it comes to the treatment of inferior Christian and Muslim Arabs
     
    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    The criticism of Israel in Western media is disproportionately extremely high given the much higher rates of this type of thing in the majority of the rest of the world.

    As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn't that seem like the most humane way to deal with it? What does Giraldi suggest they do?

    I suppose Western anti-Semites see Western countries going down because they are unable to deal with this type of thing and get jealous and want to drag Israel down with them. I prefer that America follow the example of Matteo Salvini. Giraldi prefers 'abolish borders' Cortez. Indeed, he'd like her to "go a lot farther".

    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    The minority groups in Iran, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, would laugh at you and the Jew of Iran prefer Iran to Israel. These sorts of lunatics, without Israeli, West interference, are rare in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    Israel is dominated by disgusting zealots. Israel is a zealot state of zealots.

    Does hasbarRat mean blatant liar?

    Also,

    another excellent article by Philip Giraldi.

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    The minority groups in Iran, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, would laugh at you and the Jew of Iran prefer Iran to Israel
     
    Yet they are all constantly murdering each other....
    , @Them Guys
    Perhaps many jews, same as American African negroes, hate seeing all the massive accomplishments, that were created and built by Other than negroes and jews. Such as beautiful sky scrappers in Dubai, and one of worlds best ever F-1 Race Tracks. Just to compare Iran's main huge modern city which compares to the best and largest American cities, and absolute beautiful White-Green/Blue/Brown eyed, Blonde/Red Head/Brunette Women and kids within Iran cities. Causes many jews to self reflect at how they lack much that others have and created.


    Picture an American African negro as he or she moves about in any of the many major cities in usa. And is constantly aware of how wonderful and great of a civilization, and its infrastructure created by European White Americans really is. How every auto the negro drives was invented by a euro White Mind. How most all they use and enjoy daily, indoor plumbing and modern electric appliance's, frozen foods, drive in burger joints, Mall's and Dept. Stores, almost every possible thing they can see or use or think of. And then the typical African negro compares it to Africa and what little, other than Mud & Feces made Huts for dwellings that melt in every rain storm, and huge numbers of kiddies they are totally unable to feed and care for properly, that their African cousins have built or created. And of course it just must literally Blow their small negro minds at such a comparison no?


    Well in many ways the original whigger aka white nigger, is the jew who appears as a euro white person, but is not. Therefore a typical jew likely hates their Arab and Dubai and Iranian neighbors as bad as usa negroes hate usa white folk. Total Envy, turned into vast Hatred. Like dem liberals, another mind sickness one can say.
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  79. c matt says:
    @Rogue
    I always like Mr Giraldi's articles but some of the comments can be a bit crappy. Like yours, for example.

    I've never been to Israel but everyone I know who has and with no axe to grind, has commented on how stunning the young Israeli women were.

    You might be more right about the sport issue, although coming from South Africa it used to be said (in the past) that you could only have a successful Springbok rugby team (national team) if you had a jew in it.

    Anyway, I'm certainly not defending Israel's actions, but some people just mouth off the first bit of rubbish that comes to mind.

    Sure, take the top 5% of practically any ethnicity and they are going to be attractive. If I had to choose an “average” female in looks from particular ethnic group, I would take an Icelandic woman.

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    Irish for me. They are the best of the best. Celtic, Viking,Norman and Roman. What's not to like?
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  80. Wally says:
    @Anthony Aaron
    And yet, the jews in israel use the idea behind the verse to convince fundamentalist Christians -- those who believe in the Old Testament (the biggest post-hypnotic suggestion of all time) -- to contribute to various causes in israel because of the 'poor jews' who cannot afford this or that.

    Basically, israel promises all sorts of stuff to those who exercise their right of return -- but they don't want to pay with their own money. Hence they go after those gullible enough to believe all of the OT nonsense.

    You doubt me? Explain all of the late night commercials by israeli organizations hustling buck$ from fundamentalist Christians …

    “Right to return”, says who?

    http://www.codoh.com

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    Thumbs up!
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  81. @anarchyst
    If a nuclear device is "lit off" in an American or European city, it will have Israel's fingerprints all over it. Israel is desperate to keep the American money spigot running, as well as sabotaging the Palestinian "peace process" that the world wants it to take seriously.

    In fact, if a nuclear device is "lit off" anywhere in the world, it will have come from Israel's secret nuclear "stockpile".

    The "power outage" in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical "sleight of hand", as an Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the "power outage" without receiving customs clearance or inspection. This is one of many Israeli companies that possesses a "special exemption" granted by the U S government that frees it from customs inspections. Just maybe another one of Israel's nukes was just being pre-positioned or nuclear triggers (tritium) were being renewed, getting ready for "the big one". As most Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel's benefit, another "incident" on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel's benefit. Israel's "samson option" is a real threat to "light one off" in a European or American city, if Israel's interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.

    As an aside, American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets "foreign aid" in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    When Netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, it was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of Israel…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and be deported to Israel…

    I remember the question of dual citizenship coming up in a law school class in immigration law.

    The professor (and the case law) showed that there was no dual citizenship for US Citizens until 1948 — when the jews pretty much forced it upon us so that their israeli citizens could also be US Citizens (and vice-versa) — without having to surrender US Citizenship in the process.

    That was a huge mistake — but we had to do it to appease the jews.

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    I remember the question of dual citizenship...
     
    Speaking of dual citizenship:

    https://twitter.com/cursedsalad/status/1013649675658727424?s=21

    Here’s the full contents of the release:

    Candidate Paul Nehlen Releases Outline Of Proposed Federal Dual-Citizen “One Loyalty” Legislation



    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    July 2, 2018
    Email: [email protected]

    Candidate For Congress Paul Nehlen Releases Outline Of Proposed Dual-Citizen Federal “One Loyalty” Legislation

    Delavan, WI — Republican U.S. House candidate Paul Nehlen is the first candidate or elected official willing to stand up and propose a legislative solution to the problem of dual-citizens in elected or appointed offices.

    “We need a federal law prohibiting dual-citizens from holding elected or appointed offices, or temporary or permanent hired positions in America’s federal, state, or local bureaucracy or in America’s military,” Nehlen asserts.

    “Dual-citizens present an ethical dilemma, and set up a moral hazard that the public ought not bear,” Nehlen continued.

    “While this treacherous situation presents a base-line ethical dilemma from any nation a person may share dual-citizen status, there is one nation where this condition presents particularly egregious pain: Israel. The reason is straightforward,” Nehlen explains. “Any criticism of Israel is portrayed as “anti-Semitism” and the offending person is ostracized from polite society. Conversely, every single day Blacks, Whites, Hispanics, Han Chinese, etc are criticized and critiqued in every sort of circumstance and for all sorts of reasons. So, every race is subject to criticism, except for one: Jews. That’s a double-standard and that has to stop.”

    The following two quotes from highly respected U.S. military leaders highlights the real-world problems dual-citizenry exacerbate on the global stage. In prepared testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee, Gen. David Petraeus stated:

    “Insufficient progress toward a comprehensive Middle East peace. The enduring hostilities between Israel and some of its neighbors present distinct challenges to our ability to advance our interests in the AOR [Area of Operations]. Israeli-Palestinian tensions often flare into violence and large-scale armed confrontations. The conflict foments anti-American sentiment, due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel. Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples in the AOR and weakens the legitimacy of moderate regimes in the Arab world. Meanwhile, al-Qaeda and other militant groups exploit that anger to mobilize support. The conflict also gives Iran influence in the Arab world through its clients, Lebanese Hizballah and Hamas”. [highlighting mine]

    Then there is this quote “I paid a military-security price every day as the commander of CentCom because the Americans were seen as biased in support of Israel.” – General Mattis [highlighting mine]

    “Here we have two Generals at the highest ranks of our military, testifying that America’s relationship with Israel is hurting our country,” Nehlen continued. “We need our legislators and executives in Washington to heed testimony like this without favoritism or bias for Israel, and make the right decisions based on America’s best interest – not Israel’s. And this sentiment is echoed by former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, former Director of the CIA’s Bin Laden Unit, Michael Scheuer, and former Congressman Ron Paul, to name a few.”

    Nehlen expressed concern about how legislators recently proposed Anti-Boycott Act that the ACLU claimed would encroach on Americans’ freedom of speech.

    “Again, this is just one of those situations where lawmakers are forced to choose between their allegiances: Israel or America,” Nehlen said. “Clearly, the ACLU had concerns about the bill’s affect on our Constitutional right to free speech, so we absolutely must not put bills like this in front of people whose loyalties lay outside of the US. And we must be able to categorically reject bills like this without being stigmatized as an anti-Semite – something we’ve seen a lot of lately.”

    The legislation would ban dual-citizens from from any nation from holding any office in federal, state, or local bureaucracies, elected or otherwise, or in America’s military. For elected office holders, special elections must be held for all current office holders within 3 months of this legislation being signed into law. For unelected positions, the incumbents would have 3 months to resign their position. Dual-citizens who fail to vacate these positions, or going-forward, campaign for, accept appointment to, or are hired for any period of time into federal, state, or local bureaucratic positions, or within the military would be guilty of treason per 18 U.S. Code § 2381.

    “We must secure the bureaucracy to restore public trust and make America safe again,” Nehlen concluded.
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  82. @Anthony Aaron
    I remember -- in the very early days of the mass internet (i.e., the mid-'90s) -- reading articles online that were critical of either israel in particular or of jews in general.

    I would set aside those links and try them a couple of hours later -- not so strangely, they were gone almost 100% of the time.

    As someone once said in these very pages -- if you want to find out who's in control, just find out who you can't speak against.

    “As someone once said in these very pages — if you want to find out who’s in control, just find out who you can’t speak against.”

    It was Voltaire who said it. And he said it better:

    “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”

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    Thanks for the correction … I was going from memory, but only the gist of it remained.
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  83. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    Why the population of this site do not recognize that Tyrion 2 is a zionist TROLL. Why do you want to waste your time commenting with these criminal zionist liars? Don’t you have anything else to do?

    criminal zionist troll = Momus = Tyrion 2 = criminal zionist troll

    Don’t engage with these criminal racist zionists.

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    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
    Are you the guy down by Park Street station that is always screaming scipture and trying to slather people with lotion?
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  84. Wally says:
    @Tyrion 2
    People are legitimately shot all of the time while engaging in property crimes in the US. That same attitude has not been applied to the Southern border, which is why tens of millions have crossed it illegally.

    If you prefer to never kill and lose your country, that is the American people's collective choice; but it is factually an extremist position if you look at the rest of the world and human history.

    Jews mock killing of pregnant Palestinians and children.
    Two teenage Israeli girls carrying a placard in Hebrew reading: “Hating Arabs is not racism, it’s values.”
    http://www.codoh.com

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    And jews wonder why the world has tried to get rid of them? Really?

    How can so many folks who are self-described as being so superior to all of the rest of the Creation in intellect and otherwise be so clueless?

    Arrogance is NOT a virtue …
    , @Wizard of Oz
    As a matter of interest do you know the history -- provenance of those photographs? It couldn't be easier to fake both and there are possibly more people wishing to do harm to Israel's image than there are abysmally crude savages like those portrayed. One of the girls looks more likely to be East or South East Asian than any of the usual strains of Israeli but, in reality, there is no reason to suppose they knew that what they were holding up said what you say it says. Can you read it yourself or do you take the translation on trust as they may have?
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  85. @Rogue
    I always like Mr Giraldi's articles but some of the comments can be a bit crappy. Like yours, for example.

    I've never been to Israel but everyone I know who has and with no axe to grind, has commented on how stunning the young Israeli women were.

    You might be more right about the sport issue, although coming from South Africa it used to be said (in the past) that you could only have a successful Springbok rugby team (national team) if you had a jew in it.

    Anyway, I'm certainly not defending Israel's actions, but some people just mouth off the first bit of rubbish that comes to mind.

    A couple decades ago about fifteen family members and acquaintances spent quite a few weeks in Israel building a restaurant for a European investor. They were all Americans and non-Jewish. Generally, they ended up really hating the place. Their biggest complaint was that as soon as the Israelis found out you weren’t Jewish they treated you like crap.

    On the day they were leaving their flight to Paris was cancelled and they were told there would be no more direct flights until the following day. Rather than spend one more night in Israel, the entire crew coughed up an extra $1k each to get re-routed through Greece and Italy.

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    Never been to Israel as I stated earlier but, yes, I have heard they're generally quite arrogant and not the most friendly people. No doubt there's exceptions, I'm sure.

    But some of the same people saying how much they disliked the Israelis also remarked on the good looking women.

    Ultimately, I'm going by other people's opinions, so who knows (or cares).

    Here in my native South Africa I've met a couple of Jewish chicks in the past who were pretty good looking.

    But whatever.
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  86. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @bjondo

    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.
     
    The minority groups in Iran, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, would laugh at you and the Jew of Iran prefer Iran to Israel. These sorts of lunatics, without Israeli, West interference, are rare in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    Israel is dominated by disgusting zealots. Israel is a zealot state of zealots.

    Does hasbarRat mean blatant liar?

    Also,

    another excellent article by Philip Giraldi.

    The minority groups in Iran, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, would laugh at you and the Jew of Iran prefer Iran to Israel

    Yet they are all constantly murdering each other….

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    Yet they are all constantly murdering each other….
     
    Hardly. Let's take them one by one. I'd expect you of all people to be sympathetic to the position Lebanon is in. In Syria there's a significant portion of Sunni Arabs who resent not living under a Sunni Arab government and are willing to slaughter their way to one; once again I'd expect you to understand that situation. In Jordan there were, quite a while back, clashes between Palestinians and locals; once again (I'm using this phrase a lot) I'd expect that to be a not unfamiliar situation to you. In Iran-- well, I'm not quite sure what you're talking about in that case, actually.
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  87. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Wally
    You must mean the beautiful Russian women who claim to be Jewish so they can go to 'Israel' & get free stuff. Thanks to US taxpayers, that is.

    The average female Jew, well, the description 'mud fence' comes to mind.

    www.codoh.com

    Two of the most beautiful women I ever dated were Jewish.

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    They were probably heavily European in their blood lines.
    Jews 'bought' into the local races when they invaded Europe over the last two millennia.
    I met the most beautiful, what appeared to me, Italian girl once, she turned out to be a Jewess.
    , @Old Jew
    …. same here…..
    , @Wally
    The pictures are where?

    And BTW, converts don't count. LOL.

    Mother Teresa was no doubt "beautiful" too.

    https://www.biography.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cg_face%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_300/MTE1ODA0OTcxODAxNTQ0MjA1/mother-teresa-9504160-1-402.jpg

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  88. RVBlake says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    Hi Phil,

    In your article posted here two (2) weeks ago at U.R., fyi, the enthusiastic & angry commenter "Harbinger" hit hard & perhaps unfairly at the articulate & well meaning dissident commenter "Art."

    Harbinger's key contribution was the absolute futility of using the ultra-corrupt & omnipresent Jewish (ZUSA) political system to change it for America's benefit.

    We all recall a percentage of Americans having hope & faith in Kentucky Senator Rand Paul. Nonetheless, anxious to rise in ZUS presidential standing, Rand found it necessary to visit the Jerusalem's Western (Wailing) Wall, & wearing a yarmulke. A.k.a., the necessity for kissing the correct ass.

    This year, Rand Paul cast the decisive vote to confirm warmongering Zionist Mike Pompeo as Secretary of State. (Zigh)

    Acknowledging impotent defeatism inherent in Harbinger's & my position, I am sincerely open for all criticism here.

    P.S. Today is the 30th anniversary of the ZUS's barbaric shooting down of the Iranian passenger plane, the Vincennes. 290 casualties! 66 children. US Navy guided missile Commander, William Rogers, was cleared of any wrongdoing & awarded America's "Legion of Merit" medal.
    A question, my U.R. Brothers. Does anyone here recall any Congressional or Executive branch outrage?

    That happened in 1988. I was active duty military then and the unit used to receive the “Navy Times”, a newspaper for members of the Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard. I do not recall seeing any U.S. followup to the atrocity.

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    Writing apparently as a patriotic & principled American military veteran, RVBlake said:
    "I do not recall seeing any U.S. followup to the (Vincennes) atrocity."

    Hi RVBlake,

    Above, neither do I!

    Nonetheless, a sincere thanks for your "higher" service to our very sick society & your having honorably called the U.S. Navy's attack upon the defenseless Iranian passenger airplane what it really was -- an "atrocity."

    Around the year 2006, I do recall a dreaded sense of shame when faux "war hero," Senator John McCain, modified the popular Beach Boys song lyric to "Barbara Ann," and to the delight of his Zio indoctrinated political supporters (at a rally), he fiendishly intoned, "Bomb, bomb Iran!"

    Fyi, RVBlake, a few months ago, author & U.S. military veteran, Philip Giraldi, wrote a great U.R. article about our "Zionized military."

    On Independence Day Eve, you will ever more so appreciate P.G.'s higher service to our country. Thanks again!
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  89. Rogue says:
    @Echoes of History
    Context of the surrounding text? Got it specified for ya:

    "THE JEW FIRST." Romans 1:16
     
    Only cucks would accept being humble second-raters in a Hebrew salvation cult.

    Zionism is hardly a religious movement? Maybe you think the Bible isn't religious, hmm?


    • "From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates." -2 Kings 24:7

    • "From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates." -Diary of Theodor Herzl, whom the the Declaration of Establishment of State of Israel declares to be the "spiritual father" of Zionism
    www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpolicy/peace/guide/pages/declaration%20of%20establishment%20of%20state%20of%20israel.aspx
     

    Funny how a supposedly non-religious movement has a "spiritual father." And Zionism would never have flourished without Western Cuckianity's eager support.

    We're marching to Zion,
    Beautiful, beautiful Zion!

     
    Muh Greatest Ally!

    The early Zionists were mostly atheist. Zionists quoting the Bible for legitimacy of their land claims I’d take with a pinch of salt regarding their sincerity.

    As for Christianity having Jewish roots, yes I know.

    You are presumably a pagan?

    Well, that’s up to you, but whilst I actually believe in the Christian God do you actually believe in the European pagan deities?

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    The Christian God? Now that's a deceitful misnomer. Europeans got tricked by Hellenized Jew authors of the Jew Testament and European translators. They conflated the old European terms "God" (and the original Greek "Theos") for the Jewish deity in the Bible.

    The Jew's deity Jehovah hates God. Their holy book, the Tanakh, says so:


    And ye are those forsaking Jehovah, Who are forgetting My holy mountain, Who are setting in array for God a table, And who are filling for Meni a mixture. (Isaiah 65:11)
     
    As far as paganism goes, Christianity is much more "pagan" than I, as Plato's Republic, quoting Homer, demonstrates:

    They perform their ritual, and persuade not only individuals, but whole cities, that expiations and atonements for sin may be made by sacrifices and amusements which fill a vacant hour, and are equally at the service of the living and the dead; the latter sort they call mysteries, and they redeem us from the pains of hell, but if we neglect them no one knows what awaits us.

    http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.html (Book II)
     

    There's Evangelical Christian soteriology for you, minus the Magic Jew.

    This close similarity to "paganism" embarrassed early Christian theologians so much they concocted the excuse that the Ol' Debbil had invented pagan salvation religions to confuse Christians, [see "Justin Martyr's First Apology 66.4 and Dialogue with Trypho 70.1 and Tertullian's Prescription against Heresies 40]. Similarly, post-Darwin Christians concocted the tale of Ol' Scratch put fossils in the ground and created geological strata with "apparent age" to make us believe in old-earth evolution. :)

    The closest I get to what you consider "paganism" is celebrating Easter (try finding that word in the Bible) and having a Merry Yuletide. Oh, and saying the ancient pagan Nordic-Anglo-Saxon names for the days of the week, like Gott's-Gotin's-Godin's-God's-Woden's Day and Thor's Day. Just like you do.

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  90. RVBlake says:
    @Echoes of History
    I'm not an atheist, Jew-worshiper. Why must you lie like a Jew? Because you're so codependent upon a race of people who openly laud their deceitful origins that you have become like them?

    May God (other European variations are Gott, Godin, Gotin, Woden, Wotan) show you his non-Kikeianity name when His Name is on your lips tomorrow, God's Day, Woden's Day, Wednesday.

    Asatru?

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    No. Since when does saying the weekday name Woden's Day (also God's or Gott's Day) or Thor's Day, which everybody in the English speaking nations still speak today, make one Asatru? But hey, if the monsters at The Atlantic don't like Asatru, maybe it's something worth looking into.

    White supremacists are coopting Norse heathen symbols.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/11/asatru-heathenry-racism/543864/
     
    Weird how whites can't even use their own symbols, according to Jews. Is it OK with you to be white?
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  91. Them Guys says:
    @DESERT FOX
    Zero/0. The Zionist controlled MSM could give lessons to Goebbels, and the Zionists have control of every facet of the U.S. gov and the MSM and the BANKS via the FED, we are a plantation for the Zionists.

    Another example of the Zionist controlled MSM is Afghanistan where Americans are guarding the poppy fields for the CIA/MOSSAD/MI6 drug running ops , but the Americans think we are bringing democracy , hell we don't have democracy here, it is ORWELL on steroids.

    Yet it is truly amazing how so many here that insist they are not a jew, always, always, always, Jump like Pavlov’s Dogs at every chance for them to kneejerk defend all issues jewish and Israel.

    Not a one does the same when the issues are about, other than jews.

    A person could conclude that if they believe lib dem Marxist leftys have what many refer to as a Mental Sickness, of which I too agree on, then how else can one think of such Pavlov dog type automatic speed control support for, and total defense of all issues and all things done jewish. Than to consider that those so duped are even worse than mentally ill lib dems?

    Worse then lib dem mental illness, as in, Mentally Deranged dupes so eager to jump up and defend jewry in general, via unconditional defense of jews, based upon a total rejection of more solid documented and historical proofs galore of massive jewish guilt, in so many affairs and agendas and policies, that act in concert to wreck and ruin and bankrupt EVERY Nation jews have ever infiltrated. Than a person could research and study even if they lived to an age of 500 years old.

    Until of course those host nations themselves React and Boot jews Out, as has been done in at least 109-Prior host nations within the past aprox. 1800+/- years. And for a grand total of at least 300 separate Boot Out’s.

    The mental block which acts to reject all such massive proofs, and allows a person to remain so duped and so willing to always Jump to unquestionable jew defense, and make endless excuses for what can rightfully be called. The Most Indefensible group of people ever to inhabit planet earth, is a phenom like No other. Plus most such dupes are not able to claim ignorance as their own personal defense, for most are in fact very intelligent folks based upon all else they comment on.

    If any new Mental Derangement syndrome, or mental illness should be added to that, Shrinks medical listing book of illness of the mind, a good start would be to add and include this mindless unquestioned, always, always defense of jews, No.. matter.. What.. jews did or do.

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  92. geokat62 says:
    @Anthony Aaron
    I remember the question of dual citizenship coming up in a law school class in immigration law.

    The professor (and the case law) showed that there was no dual citizenship for US Citizens until 1948 -- when the jews pretty much forced it upon us so that their israeli citizens could also be US Citizens (and vice-versa) -- without having to surrender US Citizenship in the process.

    That was a huge mistake -- but we had to do it to appease the jews.

    I remember the question of dual citizenship…

    Speaking of dual citizenship:

    Here’s the full contents of the release:

    Candidate Paul Nehlen Releases Outline Of Proposed Federal Dual-Citizen “One Loyalty” Legislation

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    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    July 2, 2018
    Email: [email protected]

    Candidate For Congress Paul Nehlen Releases Outline Of Proposed Dual-Citizen Federal “One Loyalty” Legislation

    Delavan, WI — Republican U.S. House candidate Paul Nehlen is the first candidate or elected official willing to stand up and propose a legislative solution to the problem of dual-citizens in elected or appointed offices.

    “We need a federal law prohibiting dual-citizens from holding elected or appointed offices, or temporary or permanent hired positions in America’s federal, state, or local bureaucracy or in America’s military,” Nehlen asserts.

    “Dual-citizens present an ethical dilemma, and set up a moral hazard that the public ought not bear,” Nehlen continued.

    “While this treacherous situation presents a base-line ethical dilemma from any nation a person may share dual-citizen status, there is one nation where this condition presents particularly egregious pain: Israel. The reason is straightforward,” Nehlen explains. “Any criticism of Israel is portrayed as “anti-Semitism” and the offending person is ostracized from polite society. Conversely, every single day Blacks, Whites, Hispanics, Han Chinese, etc are criticized and critiqued in every sort of circumstance and for all sorts of reasons. So, every race is subject to criticism, except for one: Jews. That’s a double-standard and that has to stop.”

    The following two quotes from highly respected U.S. military leaders highlights the real-world problems dual-citizenry exacerbate on the global stage. In prepared testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee, Gen. David Petraeus stated:

    “Insufficient progress toward a comprehensive Middle East peace. The enduring hostilities between Israel and some of its neighbors present distinct challenges to our ability to advance our interests in the AOR [Area of Operations]. Israeli-Palestinian tensions often flare into violence and large-scale armed confrontations. The conflict foments anti-American sentiment, due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel. Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples in the AOR and weakens the legitimacy of moderate regimes in the Arab world. Meanwhile, al-Qaeda and other militant groups exploit that anger to mobilize support. The conflict also gives Iran influence in the Arab world through its clients, Lebanese Hizballah and Hamas”. [highlighting mine]

    Then there is this quote “I paid a military-security price every day as the commander of CentCom because the Americans were seen as biased in support of Israel.” – General Mattis [highlighting mine]

    “Here we have two Generals at the highest ranks of our military, testifying that America’s relationship with Israel is hurting our country,” Nehlen continued. “We need our legislators and executives in Washington to heed testimony like this without favoritism or bias for Israel, and make the right decisions based on America’s best interest – not Israel’s. And this sentiment is echoed by former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, former Director of the CIA’s Bin Laden Unit, Michael Scheuer, and former Congressman Ron Paul, to name a few.”

    Nehlen expressed concern about how legislators recently proposed Anti-Boycott Act that the ACLU claimed would encroach on Americans’ freedom of speech.

    “Again, this is just one of those situations where lawmakers are forced to choose between their allegiances: Israel or America,” Nehlen said. “Clearly, the ACLU had concerns about the bill’s affect on our Constitutional right to free speech, so we absolutely must not put bills like this in front of people whose loyalties lay outside of the US. And we must be able to categorically reject bills like this without being stigmatized as an anti-Semite – something we’ve seen a lot of lately.”

    The legislation would ban dual-citizens from from any nation from holding any office in federal, state, or local bureaucracies, elected or otherwise, or in America’s military. For elected office holders, special elections must be held for all current office holders within 3 months of this legislation being signed into law. For unelected positions, the incumbents would have 3 months to resign their position. Dual-citizens who fail to vacate these positions, or going-forward, campaign for, accept appointment to, or are hired for any period of time into federal, state, or local bureaucratic positions, or within the military would be guilty of treason per 18 U.S. Code § 2381.

    “We must secure the bureaucracy to restore public trust and make America safe again,” Nehlen concluded.

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    Dual citizenship benefit USA unless the reciprocating country is Israel. Rest all suffer.

    This is enough of a reason to dismantle this system.
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  93. Them Guys says:
    @Momus

    No, jewish women are not stunning, the average jewish women is uglier than average white women.
     
    The obesity rate among Israeli women is a fraction of the US rate. That should be a fair starting point for an assessment.

    Yes due to they carry most excess weight in their massive shnozz eh.

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  94. Rogue says:
    @Anthony Aaron
    And yet, the jews in israel use the idea behind the verse to convince fundamentalist Christians -- those who believe in the Old Testament (the biggest post-hypnotic suggestion of all time) -- to contribute to various causes in israel because of the 'poor jews' who cannot afford this or that.

    Basically, israel promises all sorts of stuff to those who exercise their right of return -- but they don't want to pay with their own money. Hence they go after those gullible enough to believe all of the OT nonsense.

    You doubt me? Explain all of the late night commercials by israeli organizations hustling buck$ from fundamentalist Christians …

    I don’t share your views on the OT, but I do agree with you about the Christian Zionist thing.

    I used to be one myself. I’m not now automatically anti Israel or anti Jewish, but I believe I can see more clearly now on these issues.

    Unfortunately, a lot of Christian Zionists, whilst they mean well, are somewhat superstitious with regards to calling spades, spades when it comes to the Jews /Israel question.

    This is based on the passage in the OT that tells about God promising to bless those who blessed Abraham, and cursing those who cursed him.

    It did apply to ancient Israel but now it applies to the church. Paul’s writing in the NT makes this quite clear.

    What matters is circumcision of the heart, and not the flesh.

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  95. MacNucc11 says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I personally would have liked to see Ocasio-Cortez go farther, a lot farther. Israel is a place where conventional morality has been replaced by a theocratically and culturally driven sense of entitlement which has meant that anything goes when it comes to the treatment of inferior Christian and Muslim Arabs
     
    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    The criticism of Israel in Western media is disproportionately extremely high given the much higher rates of this type of thing in the majority of the rest of the world.

    As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn't that seem like the most humane way to deal with it? What does Giraldi suggest they do?

    I suppose Western anti-Semites see Western countries going down because they are unable to deal with this type of thing and get jealous and want to drag Israel down with them. I prefer that America follow the example of Matteo Salvini. Giraldi prefers 'abolish borders' Cortez. Indeed, he'd like her to "go a lot farther".

    “Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.”

    You are so right, I mean our media are so anti Jewish that they refuse to report on jewish children being burned alive in Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc. Damn our media really are a bunch of liars. I mean why keep promoting a false story about Iran developing nuclear weapons when you have dynamite material like baby jews being burned alive?

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  96. Rogue says:
    @Anonymous34
    A couple decades ago about fifteen family members and acquaintances spent quite a few weeks in Israel building a restaurant for a European investor. They were all Americans and non-Jewish. Generally, they ended up really hating the place. Their biggest complaint was that as soon as the Israelis found out you weren't Jewish they treated you like crap.

    On the day they were leaving their flight to Paris was cancelled and they were told there would be no more direct flights until the following day. Rather than spend one more night in Israel, the entire crew coughed up an extra $1k each to get re-routed through Greece and Italy.

    Never been to Israel as I stated earlier but, yes, I have heard they’re generally quite arrogant and not the most friendly people. No doubt there’s exceptions, I’m sure.

    But some of the same people saying how much they disliked the Israelis also remarked on the good looking women.

    Ultimately, I’m going by other people’s opinions, so who knows (or cares).

    Here in my native South Africa I’ve met a couple of Jewish chicks in the past who were pretty good looking.

    But whatever.

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    You seem obsessed with women
    Not getting enough?
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  97. GOD bless PGiraldi the truth warrior…JEWS chosen people of GOD!!! NOt possible so inhuman,evil people could NOT be chosen by a loving god!!! its ALL a jew lie. I find it irrational Christian evangelical support for zionism, while in Israel Christians are physically attack, harras, and stone for wearing a Jesus TShirt…attending church, mosques, …Why do jews have this fanatical,profiund almost psychopatholigal belief that they the JEWS have ALL the absolute truths, their religions, their race, their books, their humanity, their god, a even god must check his facts with the jews…!!! not even the Nazis were so INhuman…

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    Heres what their top leaders state about jewry/zios/and their JWO.

    “The Jewish people taken collectively will be its own Messiah. His reign over the Universe will be obtained by the unification of the human races and through the elimination of frontiers. (borders) A Universal Republic will come into being in which the Sons of Israel will become the directing element. We know how to dominate the Masses. The governments of all nations will gradually fall, through victory of the proletariat, into the hands of Judah. All private property will become the possession of the Princes of Israel they will own the wealth of all lands. Thus will be realized the promise of the Talmud that when the time of the Messiah comes the Jews will hold under their keys the property of all the peoples of the world.”
    — Baruch Levy in an old letter to Karl Marx, published in the Rothschild-controlled La Revue de Paris (a real literature magazine and not an “anti-Semitic” source), page 574 on June 1, 1928.

    “We should turn Her (Russia) into a desert populated with white Niggers. We will impose upon them such a tyranny that was never dreamt by the most hideous despots of the East. The peculiar trait of that tyranny is that it will be enacted from the left rather than the right and it will be red in the literal sense of that word, for we shall shed such streams of blood that all the losses of human lives in Capitalist wars will shrink and pale before them. The biggest bankers on the other side of the Atlantic will work in very close collaboration with us. If we win the Revolution, crush Russia, we shall consolidate the power of Zionism on her funereal remains and become such a force that the whole world will go down on its knees before it. We will show what real power is.”
    (Aaron Simanovich, “Memoirs”, Paris, 1922, Molodaya Gvardiya, Moscow, No. 6, 1991, p. 55.)
    — Leon Trotsky (born Lev Davidovich Bronstein) in Petrograd, December 1917.

    Trotsky was both an ardent Zionist (Israel proponent) and Bolshevik. He was also one of the biggest human butchers of the 20th century during the Red Revolution (1917-1921). After a major internal power struggle with Joseph Stalin (who may or may not have been Jewish), he worked for the subversion, degradation and eventual overthrow of White Western society from his villa in Mexico City, until Ramon Mercader (probable NKVD agent of Stalin) put an ice pick through his skull in 1940. Trotsky died soon after.


    “The Bolshevist revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a NEW ORDER IN THE WORLD. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction, and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, became a reality all over the world.”
    — The American Hebrew Magazine – September 10, 1920. Sometimes misquoted to say “New World Order.”

    “Jew and Gentile are two worlds, between you Gentiles and us Jews there lies an unbridgeable gulf… There are two life forces in the world: Jewish and Gentile…I do not believe that this primal difference between Gentile and Jew is reconcilable…”
    — Maurice Samuel, “You Gentiles,” page 9.

    “In everything, we are destroyers — even in the instruments of destruction to which we turn for relief… We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands.”
    — Maurice Samuel, “You Gentiles,” pages 152, 155, and 147.

    Under the heading of “A brief History of the Terms for Jew” in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following: “Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.”
    — 1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3 (the writer is obliquely referring to the true history of the Eastern European Ashkenazim, or Khazars). ( See also bible, Rev.2:9 & 3:9, and John 8:44,,TG's)
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  98. ” The propaganda of Arab governments expelling the Sephardim is largely false. ”

    The deal between the Israeli government and some Arabic governments is said to have been ‘we the jews, you their properties’.
    Google Giladi for the story

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  99. @neutral
    No, jewish women are not stunning, the average jewish women is uglier than average white women.

    ” No jewish women are not stunning”. Of course not all Jewish women are stunning but many are indeed quite lovely.
    I had a Jewish girlfriend, late sixties, in Frankfurt and she was a raving beauty, a breath-taking trainstopper, brunette of course, and actually I prefer blonde ladies, my current, gorgeous German wife is blond in fact.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro Jazz artist.

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  100. KenH says:
    @AndrewR
    I'm inclined to suspect similar things about her, but do you have evidence of her saying explicitly anti-white or pro-violence things?

    but do you have evidence of her saying explicitly anti-white or pro-violence things?

    No to both, but she gave a shout out to BLM who once called for “Dead Cops Now!” at an NYC rally a couple of years ago, so she’s guilty by association in my book. Some of her statements can fall into the implicitly anti-white category such as her reverence for “people of color” and spouting the Obamaism that “Your zip code determines your destiny” which is just leftist code talk for forcibly colonizing peaceful white middle class and wealthy neighborhoods with the black and brown lumpenproletariet.

    When Obama burst on the scene he was cast as an affable black man without the racial baggage and grievances of most blacks but his mascara started to fade months before the election and his mask completely fell within a year after it. I think that much like Obama as time passes information will emerge about Ocasio-Cortez’s radicalism and radical associations not that it will make much difference to her predominantly non-white constituents or the judenpress.

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    You don't have to support "affirmatively furthering fair housing" to admit that where you're raised has a significant effect on your life outcomes. Sounds like your dislike of her is reflexive and utterly thoughtless.
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  101. As to atheistic zionists, they existed.
    However, read
    Simon Schama, ´Two Rothschilds and the land of Israel’, London, 1978
    about the Rothschild’s problems with religious jews in Palestine.

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    Keep in mind Schama is a historian zionist, rabid.
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  102. Deschutes says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I personally would have liked to see Ocasio-Cortez go farther, a lot farther. Israel is a place where conventional morality has been replaced by a theocratically and culturally driven sense of entitlement which has meant that anything goes when it comes to the treatment of inferior Christian and Muslim Arabs
     
    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    The criticism of Israel in Western media is disproportionately extremely high given the much higher rates of this type of thing in the majority of the rest of the world.

    As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn't that seem like the most humane way to deal with it? What does Giraldi suggest they do?

    I suppose Western anti-Semites see Western countries going down because they are unable to deal with this type of thing and get jealous and want to drag Israel down with them. I prefer that America follow the example of Matteo Salvini. Giraldi prefers 'abolish borders' Cortez. Indeed, he'd like her to "go a lot farther".

    Excuse me, but you’re full of shit.

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  103. Them Guys says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    "25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and he turned and said to them, 26 “If anyone comes to me but ·does not hate [or loves more than me; C Jesus is using hyperbole to emphasize his point] his father, mother, wife, children, brothers, or sisters—or even ·life [life itself; or his own life]—he cannot be my ·follower [disciple]. 27 Whoever ·is not willing to [L does not] carry his own cross and follow me cannot be my ·follower [disciple]."

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke+14&version=EXB



    uhhh forsaking or departing to follow christ -- not israel - they are not the same thing.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+19&version=NKJV

    Echoes has obviously discovered that a person can browse through the bible, likely more so than any other book, and pretty much reinterpret verses as if they were their very own Pope, and make the bible say or approve of most anything they desire it to. They can take most any issue one can conjure or think up, and add personal Spin to out of full context bible verses, and cause it to mean or say or agree with whatever they wish it meant.

    Then there are those folks who understand that this has been an ongoing ordeal for as long as the bible has existed. What is even more baffling is how it seems that these anti-bible and anti Christian folks, actually try much harder and more often to convince others of their false interpretations and meanings etc. Than even the worst pro bible thumpers do when attempting to convince others to become a believer.

    The main difference is…The Thumper is trying to convince others of what they believe to be truth. And hold an real actual belief of.

    While the anti Christian and anti bible persons are so hard at work bashing something they claim does not even exist, or they do not believe in. If it does not even exist? or they do not believe in it…Why spend so much time writing or speaking of it?

    There may yet be a worse type, one who so misunderstands what they have read of the bible, that it confuses them into a non belief mode and lifestyle.

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    I agree that it has always been thus.



    Your last inquisitive or suggestion I note as those who are of reprobate mind.


    Having misconstrued truth so long and so intently that they believe a lie is truth -- thereby god givinbg them to a "reprobate mind".

    appreciated your comments
    , @Echoes of History
    Pretty much reinterpret verses as if they were their very own Pope? Did you mean like when EliteCommieInc. wrote this:

    #76 July 3, 2018 at 4:37 pm GMT
    EliteCommInc. says:

    ...Jesus is using hyperbole...
     
    Really now, Jesus uses hyperbole every time he says something something totally disgusting. Can I get Muh Theology degree now? It would mean so much more than a Jewish Studies degree! LOL!

    You Jew-worshiping cucks always come up with the cutest rationalizations to excuse what your Jewish masters demand of you.

    Your excuses for your Jewish masters are why the monster is still being fed, because you stupidly believe this Jewish lie:

    "JEWS HAVE BEEN ENTRUSTED WITH THE VERY WORDS OF GOD." Romans 3:2
     
    Hey, is that, um, hyperbole? :)
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  104. L.K says:
    @Tyrion 2
    Jews are probably the least ethnocentric, other than the 4% of global population that is Western European, in the world.

    Zionist shill ‘Tyrion’:

    Jews are probably the least ethnocentric, other than the 4% of global population that is Western European, in the world

    Hahahahaha… good one!

    You zio shills really are shameless LIARS!

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  105. @KenH
    Ocasio-Cortez's stance on Israel is about the only redeeming quality she has. Besides that she's just your typical Latin American commie and anti-white revolutionary.

    But her heart only bleeds for those deemed "people of color" as Palestinians are. If she was consistent about upholding human rights around the world then she'd at least condemn the negro ANC in their genocidal campaign against the white S. Africans and white S. African farmers in particular.

    She claims to respect political protests but in reality only those she agree with and as long as they're conducted by people of color against people of whiteness. Commies always cloak themselves in human rights, fairness and freedom garb , but if Ocasio-Cortez ever ascended to power here in America she'd happily resort to the use of machine guns, torture chambers and death camps for her political opponents and political dissidents.

    You nail it again. O-C is nothing short of a rabid mad-woman , a nut-case of huge dimensions, and she is the now “open” face of the lunatic Democrats. At least DT is bringing these crazies to the surface, and this is the only actual way to get on top of the situation : Exposure.

    As long as they were permitted to operate in the dark and disguised as “tolerant” human-rights advocates, they were able to further their goals.

    AJM

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  106. sarz says:
    @WorkingClass

    ...... but it’s a funny thing that Israeli abuse and even killing of Arab children is not met with the same opprobrium.
     
    Also the intentional starving of children in Yemen. And the huge pile of dead babies in Iraq, Libya and Syria. All of them murdered by Imperial Washington.

    I much prefer President Trump to any of the candidates he defeated in the primaries and general election. But I regret that he is a Jew.

    But I regret that [Trump] is a Jew.

    His mother was a Christian Scotswoman, so he is not halachically Jewish. But hiis father probably was. Like other well known cases of crypto-Jews, he was the head of the local KKK. There was a clipping from the New York Times from the twenties that reported on some action he took as the KKK head. That was mentioned during the Repiblican campaign, but was quickly dropped from the news and never mentioned again. Trump senior was a prominent supporter of Israel, donating to specifically religious outfits. Definitely not goyische behavior. And Trump’s first teo wives are very likely Jews, so Ivanka’s conversion should be taken with a load of kosher salt.

    I had known all this but till recently I had allowed for the possibility that his Judaic behavior was a complex act, and he was supporting the Judaic position on Israel and finance past the point of rationality to explode the empire from the inside. (I note that the much-maligned patriot and antisemite Roy Cohn was a very close friend of Trump’s.) But seeing his relentless pursuit of Judaic goals I am now more inclined to think of him as a clumsy Judaic doing his damndest, and, hopefully, failing.

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  107. MacNucc11 says:
    @Tyrion 2

    In other words, Trump should use snipers and live fire on illegal immigrants crossing borders? Wow
     
    Reality is such that if you have something really good and you are not willing to defend it with lethal force, after a moderate and sensible course of escalation - naturally, then you will not have that good thing very long.

    You can work from that undeniable fact as you will.

    Or we could just enforce strict immigration law, give nothing to illegals, and make sure to detain and deport. Prosecute those who hire them. Do no allow them to work or live here and they will stop coming.

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  108. Tsigantes says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I personally would have liked to see Ocasio-Cortez go farther, a lot farther. Israel is a place where conventional morality has been replaced by a theocratically and culturally driven sense of entitlement which has meant that anything goes when it comes to the treatment of inferior Christian and Muslim Arabs
     
    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    The criticism of Israel in Western media is disproportionately extremely high given the much higher rates of this type of thing in the majority of the rest of the world.

    As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn't that seem like the most humane way to deal with it? What does Giraldi suggest they do?

    I suppose Western anti-Semites see Western countries going down because they are unable to deal with this type of thing and get jealous and want to drag Israel down with them. I prefer that America follow the example of Matteo Salvini. Giraldi prefers 'abolish borders' Cortez. Indeed, he'd like her to "go a lot farther".

    “Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country.”

    Utter nonsense and patently untrue: obviously written by one of the IDF trolls.

    I have lived and worked in 7 different MENA countries over 30 years and absolutely the worst place in the entire Middle East to live as a minority is in Israel, without doubt; it is also one of the least enjoyable places to visit as a tourist for the same reason. Israel is for Israelis only and even within that there is a caste system with the thoroughly charmless Ashkenazis at the top.

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    Tourist numbers say otherwise.
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  109. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @geokat62

    I remember the question of dual citizenship...
     
    Speaking of dual citizenship:

    https://twitter.com/cursedsalad/status/1013649675658727424?s=21

    Here’s the full contents of the release:

    Candidate Paul Nehlen Releases Outline Of Proposed Federal Dual-Citizen “One Loyalty” Legislation



    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    July 2, 2018
    Email: [email protected]

    Candidate For Congress Paul Nehlen Releases Outline Of Proposed Dual-Citizen Federal “One Loyalty” Legislation

    Delavan, WI — Republican U.S. House candidate Paul Nehlen is the first candidate or elected official willing to stand up and propose a legislative solution to the problem of dual-citizens in elected or appointed offices.

    “We need a federal law prohibiting dual-citizens from holding elected or appointed offices, or temporary or permanent hired positions in America’s federal, state, or local bureaucracy or in America’s military,” Nehlen asserts.

    “Dual-citizens present an ethical dilemma, and set up a moral hazard that the public ought not bear,” Nehlen continued.

    “While this treacherous situation presents a base-line ethical dilemma from any nation a person may share dual-citizen status, there is one nation where this condition presents particularly egregious pain: Israel. The reason is straightforward,” Nehlen explains. “Any criticism of Israel is portrayed as “anti-Semitism” and the offending person is ostracized from polite society. Conversely, every single day Blacks, Whites, Hispanics, Han Chinese, etc are criticized and critiqued in every sort of circumstance and for all sorts of reasons. So, every race is subject to criticism, except for one: Jews. That’s a double-standard and that has to stop.”

    The following two quotes from highly respected U.S. military leaders highlights the real-world problems dual-citizenry exacerbate on the global stage. In prepared testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee, Gen. David Petraeus stated:

    “Insufficient progress toward a comprehensive Middle East peace. The enduring hostilities between Israel and some of its neighbors present distinct challenges to our ability to advance our interests in the AOR [Area of Operations]. Israeli-Palestinian tensions often flare into violence and large-scale armed confrontations. The conflict foments anti-American sentiment, due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel. Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples in the AOR and weakens the legitimacy of moderate regimes in the Arab world. Meanwhile, al-Qaeda and other militant groups exploit that anger to mobilize support. The conflict also gives Iran influence in the Arab world through its clients, Lebanese Hizballah and Hamas”. [highlighting mine]

    Then there is this quote “I paid a military-security price every day as the commander of CentCom because the Americans were seen as biased in support of Israel.” – General Mattis [highlighting mine]

    “Here we have two Generals at the highest ranks of our military, testifying that America’s relationship with Israel is hurting our country,” Nehlen continued. “We need our legislators and executives in Washington to heed testimony like this without favoritism or bias for Israel, and make the right decisions based on America’s best interest – not Israel’s. And this sentiment is echoed by former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, former Director of the CIA’s Bin Laden Unit, Michael Scheuer, and former Congressman Ron Paul, to name a few.”

    Nehlen expressed concern about how legislators recently proposed Anti-Boycott Act that the ACLU claimed would encroach on Americans’ freedom of speech.

    “Again, this is just one of those situations where lawmakers are forced to choose between their allegiances: Israel or America,” Nehlen said. “Clearly, the ACLU had concerns about the bill’s affect on our Constitutional right to free speech, so we absolutely must not put bills like this in front of people whose loyalties lay outside of the US. And we must be able to categorically reject bills like this without being stigmatized as an anti-Semite – something we’ve seen a lot of lately.”

    The legislation would ban dual-citizens from from any nation from holding any office in federal, state, or local bureaucracies, elected or otherwise, or in America’s military. For elected office holders, special elections must be held for all current office holders within 3 months of this legislation being signed into law. For unelected positions, the incumbents would have 3 months to resign their position. Dual-citizens who fail to vacate these positions, or going-forward, campaign for, accept appointment to, or are hired for any period of time into federal, state, or local bureaucratic positions, or within the military would be guilty of treason per 18 U.S. Code § 2381.

    “We must secure the bureaucracy to restore public trust and make America safe again,” Nehlen concluded.

    Dual citizenship benefit USA unless the reciprocating country is Israel. Rest all suffer.

    This is enough of a reason to dismantle this system.

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  110. bjondo says:
    @jilles dykstra
    As to atheistic zionists, they existed.
    However, read
    Simon Schama, ´Two Rothschilds and the land of Israel’, London, 1978
    about the Rothschild's problems with religious jews in Palestine.

    Keep in mind Schama is a historian zionist, rabid.

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  111. Old Jew says:

    …. same here…..

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  112. Them Guys says:
    @bjondo

    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.
     
    The minority groups in Iran, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, would laugh at you and the Jew of Iran prefer Iran to Israel. These sorts of lunatics, without Israeli, West interference, are rare in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    Israel is dominated by disgusting zealots. Israel is a zealot state of zealots.

    Does hasbarRat mean blatant liar?

    Also,

    another excellent article by Philip Giraldi.

    Perhaps many jews, same as American African negroes, hate seeing all the massive accomplishments, that were created and built by Other than negroes and jews. Such as beautiful sky scrappers in Dubai, and one of worlds best ever F-1 Race Tracks. Just to compare Iran’s main huge modern city which compares to the best and largest American cities, and absolute beautiful White-Green/Blue/Brown eyed, Blonde/Red Head/Brunette Women and kids within Iran cities. Causes many jews to self reflect at how they lack much that others have and created.

    Picture an American African negro as he or she moves about in any of the many major cities in usa. And is constantly aware of how wonderful and great of a civilization, and its infrastructure created by European White Americans really is. How every auto the negro drives was invented by a euro White Mind. How most all they use and enjoy daily, indoor plumbing and modern electric appliance’s, frozen foods, drive in burger joints, Mall’s and Dept. Stores, almost every possible thing they can see or use or think of. And then the typical African negro compares it to Africa and what little, other than Mud & Feces made Huts for dwellings that melt in every rain storm, and huge numbers of kiddies they are totally unable to feed and care for properly, that their African cousins have built or created. And of course it just must literally Blow their small negro minds at such a comparison no?

    Well in many ways the original whigger aka white nigger, is the jew who appears as a euro white person, but is not. Therefore a typical jew likely hates their Arab and Dubai and Iranian neighbors as bad as usa negroes hate usa white folk. Total Envy, turned into vast Hatred. Like dem liberals, another mind sickness one can say.

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    Without the enormous artistic contributions by Jews and Negros in the field of music, America would be a much poorer place : Gershwin, Kern, Hammerstein, Arlen, etc, dozens, or hundreds of the most creative jewish composers who constitute the basis of the "Great American songbook".

    And then the black musical geniuses : Charlie Parker, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Count Basie, Duke Ellington, the list is too long to post here.

    Perhaps the one American architect worthy of being considered a match for classical European history being one Albert Kahn, native Detroiter, Jew, and artist supreme in his field, the area of so-called art-deco : his Detroit creations being the most supreme examples of this art concept world-wide.

    "Like dem liberals, another mind sickness one can say" . I have no idea what you are trying to express with this inane quip, however one thing is more than clear : you are an uncultured, crude BSer.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz musician.
    , @EliteCommInc.
    Though here you could do a little more research in black and even jewish contributions. Which I have submitted numerous times ---


    the contributions are vast, juts not advertised.
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  113. MacNucc11 says:
    @c matt
    Sure, take the top 5% of practically any ethnicity and they are going to be attractive. If I had to choose an "average" female in looks from particular ethnic group, I would take an Icelandic woman.

    Irish for me. They are the best of the best. Celtic, Viking,Norman and Roman. What’s not to like?

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  114. @RVBlake
    That happened in 1988. I was active duty military then and the unit used to receive the "Navy Times", a newspaper for members of the Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard. I do not recall seeing any U.S. followup to the atrocity.

    Writing apparently as a patriotic & principled American military veteran, RVBlake said:
    “I do not recall seeing any U.S. followup to the (Vincennes) atrocity.”

    Hi RVBlake,

    Above, neither do I!

    Nonetheless, a sincere thanks for your “higher” service to our very sick society & your having honorably called the U.S. Navy’s attack upon the defenseless Iranian passenger airplane what it really was — an “atrocity.”

    Around the year 2006, I do recall a dreaded sense of shame when faux “war hero,” Senator John McCain, modified the popular Beach Boys song lyric to “Barbara Ann,” and to the delight of his Zio indoctrinated political supporters (at a rally), he fiendishly intoned, “Bomb, bomb Iran!”

    Fyi, RVBlake, a few months ago, author & U.S. military veteran, Philip Giraldi, wrote a great U.R. article about our “Zionized military.”

    On Independence Day Eve, you will ever more so appreciate P.G.’s higher service to our country. Thanks again!

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    Thank you. The only reason I ever read The American Conservative years ago was Phil Giraldi. I was astounded when I learned he worked for the CIA. Speaking of atrocities, this may not qualify, but days after the Gulf War, in '91, there was a local luncheon given for the officers stationed at various units in the city, Savannah, GA. I didn't attend, as usual, but the lieutenant with whom I shared an office did, and she informed me of the festivities. After lunch, apparently they set up a projector and began showing live footage of the Highway of Death, the road from Kuwait to Iraq, filled with fleeing, terrified Iraqi soldiers on their way home, with no taste for combat. My colleague told me of the laughter that filled the luncheon room at the sight of the Americans bombing and littering the Highway with the mangled remains of the Iraqis. It was nauseating to hear of this reaction.
    , @anarchyst
    John McCain was a traitor and collaborator, while being held captive. He was given preferential treatment, due to the fact that his captors felt he was 'royalty', due to his family 'connections'.
    His "shoot down" was self-induced, as he DISOBEYED ORDERS and flew well below the 'floor', getting himself shot down. There were several other jets on that particular mission and HE was the only one shot down, because the others obeyed their orders!
    His ENTIRE life has been one of disrespect of orders and authority, believing himself bullet-proof, due to his 'family name' and his dad and grand dad being HIGH ranking Navy Admirals!
    His 'nickname' in his HS yearbook was "Punk" and he displayed that behavior as he went on to the USNA, where he robbed someone, more deserving, of a slot in his class, due to the 'influence' of his father.
    He SHOULD have been expelled, several times, but the folks at USNA did not want to go up against dad. He graduated FIFTH FROM THE BOTTOM in his class . . but STILL ended up going to Pensacola for flight training!! His classmates who actually 'made the grade' were aghast when he showed up down there.
    His flight grades were well below acceptable and he should have been run out of there too . . he was an ABYSMAL aviator . . crashing on base leg at Corpus for carrier qualification training. . he had been out drinking the night before and FELL ASLEEP after turning base leg and 'configuring' for landing . . he crashed 'wings level' and straight ahead into Corpus Bay.
    He destroyed two other A/C after arriving in the Fleet . . before being shot down.
    His nickname in Hanoi was "Songbird". . due to the information he willingly gave his captors. . tactical stuff. .like 'routes, altitudes', etc., that our guys used to fly from the boat to their targets and he got several aviators shot down and killed. He recorded 32+ propaganda bits (a la Tokyo Rose) to be played for our enlisted troops . . to undermine their moral.
    The bogus 'story' about not coming home early, when he could have, is just common sense. He KNEW he would have been 'court-martialed' IF he had accepted any kind of early release, based upon his 'family connections'.
    After his release, his Navy 'flying career' SHOULD have been over, based upon his permanent injuries, but, his dad intimidated a flight surgeon and he wrongly got back his flight medical status, when ANYONE else would NOT have 'passed' with his 'condition'. He was 'awarded' the position of XO at the Navy's largest training squadron, VA-174 at NAS Cecil and when the CO moved on, he was 'selected', over MANY more qualified officers, to become CO. .he used his position as XO and CO to take young (junior) female pilots on X-Country flights and screwed their brains out.
    THAT is ILLEGAL in the military and he SHOULD have been convicted at Court Martial for 'fraternization' . .INSTEAD . .daddy got him moved out of the squadron and put in charge of the Navy's "Liaison" in DC . . along with a VERY early promotion to Captain . . the rest, as they say, is history.
    John McCain is a scum bag . . a DISGRACE to the uniform he wore and his spots did not change when he became a politician!
    As an aside, John McCain's admiral "daddy" was instrumental in the cover-up of the deliberate Israeli attack on the USS Liberty (GTR-5) in 1967. Maybe "the apple didn't fall far from the tree".
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  115. j2 says:
    @Wally
    What, or who gives you the impression that "Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ"?

    I can only guess.

    If Jews were really so smart they would have conjured up a better, more believable story than their impossibly fake & stupid '6,000,000 & gas chambers'.

    www.codoh.com

    Wally writes:
    “What, or who gives you the impression that “Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ”?

    Do you not admire the super-intelligent trolls on this site? I thought we are all flabbergasted by their intelligence and knowledge.

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    That's it? That's your response?
    LOL

    I've nailed you with my question, and that's your best shot.

    Once again and in your face:

    What, or who gives you the impression that "Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ"?

    I can only guess.

    If Jews were really so smart they would have conjured up a better, more believable story than their impossibly fake & stupid '6,000,000 & gas chambers'.

    www.codoh.com

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  116. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Tsigantes
    "Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country."

    Utter nonsense and patently untrue: obviously written by one of the IDF trolls.

    I have lived and worked in 7 different MENA countries over 30 years and absolutely the worst place in the entire Middle East to live as a minority is in Israel, without doubt; it is also one of the least enjoyable places to visit as a tourist for the same reason. Israel is for Israelis only and even within that there is a caste system with the thoroughly charmless Ashkenazis at the top.

    Tourist numbers say otherwise.

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    Gee, funny how tourists are not flocking to Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria after the U.S. has bombed them and set jihadists loose on the population. As I recall Trump had even launched missiles at the airport in Syria. Just what you want to hear the pilot telling you as you are coming in for a landing. But this is all beside the point. What has tourist "numbers" got to do with being a minority in another country? A tourist is not a citizen of that country they are visiting. This is a non-sequitur.
    , @Tsigantes
    As you know well the bulk of Israeli tourists are American & European jews (and jewish student groups) - or - Christian tour groups. Very specific tourism, not general tourism.
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  117. Z-man says:
    @Wally
    "Right to return", says who?

    http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/479/110/152.jpg

    www.codoh.com

    Thumbs up!

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  118. @Wally
    How it is:

    http://68.media.tumblr.com/639563970a638b606f4adb0ef05c778b/tumblr_inline_o7t4eewwJn1r75mb5_500.jpg

    www.codoh.com

    Much to my profound frustration and chagrin, the U.S. military – in which I served as an officer during the first Gulf War – should more aptly be called the Israeli Foreign Legion. I was a young man at the time and full of patriotic fervor. I did not know what Bush the Elder meant when he spoke of a New World Order. If I only knew then what I know now.

    Mothers and fathers, please think long and hard before sending your sons and daughters to fight and die for the criminal, rogue nation of Israel.

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    "JAG" Vet" : JAG meaning you were most likely an army attorney, attorneys being the most underhanded, deceptive, dishonest, dispicable criminal-minded scoundrels of any society.

    Authenticjazz "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

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  119. MacNucc11 says:

    Great article but I knew after I looked at the picture that I should never have read it. I hate to believe that people like this exist.

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    Believe it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8icC2BA_O8
    Israel Official Talks Master Race
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  120. Z-man says:
    @lavoisier
    Two of the most beautiful women I ever dated were Jewish.

    They were probably heavily European in their blood lines.
    Jews ‘bought’ into the local races when they invaded Europe over the last two millennia.
    I met the most beautiful, what appeared to me, Italian girl once, she turned out to be a Jewess.

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  121. chris says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I personally would have liked to see Ocasio-Cortez go farther, a lot farther. Israel is a place where conventional morality has been replaced by a theocratically and culturally driven sense of entitlement which has meant that anything goes when it comes to the treatment of inferior Christian and Muslim Arabs
     
    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    The criticism of Israel in Western media is disproportionately extremely high given the much higher rates of this type of thing in the majority of the rest of the world.

    As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn't that seem like the most humane way to deal with it? What does Giraldi suggest they do?

    I suppose Western anti-Semites see Western countries going down because they are unable to deal with this type of thing and get jealous and want to drag Israel down with them. I prefer that America follow the example of Matteo Salvini. Giraldi prefers 'abolish borders' Cortez. Indeed, he'd like her to "go a lot farther".

    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    Why do you post such an obvious lie ? Who are you trying to influence here ? We all know this is crap.

    As you well know, not only is there still a Jewish community in Iran, but until the Israeli-US wars in the middle East, there were such communities in Iraq, Syria, and Libya as well. Syria’s tapestry of Shia, Suni, Christian and Jewish communities have been living together peacefully for hundreds of years !

    In view of the lat 70 years, but especially the last month, to claim that it’s “Better to be a minority in Israel,” is a cynical and pathetic joke, you coward.

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    As you well know, not only is there still a Jewish community in Iran
     
    There's a much larger Muslim community in Israel. There's also freely practicing Baha'i in Israel, while their extremely peaceful religion is banned in Iran.

    But you wouldn't know about that, would you? It doesn't allow you to hate Jews.

    but until the Israeli-US wars in the middle East, there were such communities in Iraq, Syria, and Libya as well.
     
    With less than a generation since the Turks left, Jews were already being subject to genocide in all of those countries. Blaming it on America or Israel is absurd.

    Syria’s tapestry of Shia, Suni, Christian and Jewish communities have been living together peacefully for hundreds of years !
     
    You're off your rocker. There was constant intercommunal violence. Just no-one cared because all was under the domination of the Turks.

    In view of the lat 70 years, but especially the last month, to claim that it’s “Better to be a minority in Israel,” is a cynical and pathetic joke, you coward
     
    Name one country where what I am saying isn't true...just one....
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  122. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    It will be interesting to see if Ocasio-Cortez-if elected–sticks to her principles or succumbs to the shekel storm headed her way.

    Radical Jews of the Hasidic type are also acting thuggish on American streets, like in Brooklyn where they committed assault, battery and kidnapping on a bicyclist.

    These kind of fanatics are growing in numbers all over the USA.

    If you think Trump is spineless towards Israel, wait until Israel’s next choice for POTUS, Nutty Nikky Haley steals the WH.

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    If you think Trump is spineless towards Israel, wait until Israel’s next choice for POTUS, Nutty Nikky Haley steals the WH.
     
    Bill Kristol is already drooling:

    https://twitter.com/billkristol/status/1013817845275381762?s=21

    , @Druid
    Imagine what Palestinians have to put up with in their stolen country from these porkers! Every one of the "chose" is obese like the pigs they are!
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  123. AndrewR says:
    @KenH

    but do you have evidence of her saying explicitly anti-white or pro-violence things?
     
    No to both, but she gave a shout out to BLM who once called for "Dead Cops Now!" at an NYC rally a couple of years ago, so she's guilty by association in my book. Some of her statements can fall into the implicitly anti-white category such as her reverence for "people of color" and spouting the Obamaism that "Your zip code determines your destiny" which is just leftist code talk for forcibly colonizing peaceful white middle class and wealthy neighborhoods with the black and brown lumpenproletariet.

    When Obama burst on the scene he was cast as an affable black man without the racial baggage and grievances of most blacks but his mascara started to fade months before the election and his mask completely fell within a year after it. I think that much like Obama as time passes information will emerge about Ocasio-Cortez's radicalism and radical associations not that it will make much difference to her predominantly non-white constituents or the judenpress.

    You don’t have to support “affirmatively furthering fair housing” to admit that where you’re raised has a significant effect on your life outcomes. Sounds like your dislike of her is reflexive and utterly thoughtless.

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    And you're a troll who speaks out of both sides of your mouth. Your response is equally reflexive and thoughtless and adds absolutely nothing to the subject.

    You don’t have to support “affirmatively furthering fair housing” to admit that where you’re raised has a significant effect on your life outcomes.
     
    Life isn't equal and life isn't fair. Get over it. Most blacks and Latinos are in the situation they're in because of lower IQ, poor work ethic and predisposition to crime and yet they still live better here in the USA than in their own nations. Ocasio-Cortez just wants to punish the successful and reward the chronic layabouts and malcontents.

    You're obviously a knee jerk environmental determinist.

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  124. MacNucc11 says:
    @Tyrion 2
    Tourist numbers say otherwise.

    Gee, funny how tourists are not flocking to Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria after the U.S. has bombed them and set jihadists loose on the population. As I recall Trump had even launched missiles at the airport in Syria. Just what you want to hear the pilot telling you as you are coming in for a landing. But this is all beside the point. What has tourist “numbers” got to do with being a minority in another country? A tourist is not a citizen of that country they are visiting. This is a non-sequitur.

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    He brought up tourism. Go learn what non sequitor means.
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  125. @Them Guys
    Perhaps many jews, same as American African negroes, hate seeing all the massive accomplishments, that were created and built by Other than negroes and jews. Such as beautiful sky scrappers in Dubai, and one of worlds best ever F-1 Race Tracks. Just to compare Iran's main huge modern city which compares to the best and largest American cities, and absolute beautiful White-Green/Blue/Brown eyed, Blonde/Red Head/Brunette Women and kids within Iran cities. Causes many jews to self reflect at how they lack much that others have and created.


    Picture an American African negro as he or she moves about in any of the many major cities in usa. And is constantly aware of how wonderful and great of a civilization, and its infrastructure created by European White Americans really is. How every auto the negro drives was invented by a euro White Mind. How most all they use and enjoy daily, indoor plumbing and modern electric appliance's, frozen foods, drive in burger joints, Mall's and Dept. Stores, almost every possible thing they can see or use or think of. And then the typical African negro compares it to Africa and what little, other than Mud & Feces made Huts for dwellings that melt in every rain storm, and huge numbers of kiddies they are totally unable to feed and care for properly, that their African cousins have built or created. And of course it just must literally Blow their small negro minds at such a comparison no?


    Well in many ways the original whigger aka white nigger, is the jew who appears as a euro white person, but is not. Therefore a typical jew likely hates their Arab and Dubai and Iranian neighbors as bad as usa negroes hate usa white folk. Total Envy, turned into vast Hatred. Like dem liberals, another mind sickness one can say.

    Without the enormous artistic contributions by Jews and Negros in the field of music, America would be a much poorer place : Gershwin, Kern, Hammerstein, Arlen, etc, dozens, or hundreds of the most creative jewish composers who constitute the basis of the “Great American songbook”.

    And then the black musical geniuses : Charlie Parker, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Count Basie, Duke Ellington, the list is too long to post here.

    Perhaps the one American architect worthy of being considered a match for classical European history being one Albert Kahn, native Detroiter, Jew, and artist supreme in his field, the area of so-called art-deco : his Detroit creations being the most supreme examples of this art concept world-wide.

    “Like dem liberals, another mind sickness one can say” . I have no idea what you are trying to express with this inane quip, however one thing is more than clear : you are an uncultured, crude BSer.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz musician.

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    I do not like nor consider Jazz music, and modern art deco as anything to be so praised as you do.

    If the art you speak of is that modern art where stupid sculptures that 100 persons can say it looks like 300 different things, or some huge million dollar steel off kilter square object that is not quite square, or Detroit's Massive Dark Bronze Joe Louis arm and "black power Fist" pointed at Canada across the Detroit River front. Is your idea of great art works? You can keep it.

    And while you claim to be a fantastic jazz musician, and maybe are, I prefer Rock music and sometimes symphony type concert music.


    I also used to play Bass Guitar, and was very good at it. And could be again with a couple months practice if I desired to do so. No, unlike you I never studied at worlds biggest, best high IQ music schools....Then again, I didn't need to as I am quite able to pick up on and play by ear a song before its done playing on a radio station usually. Some songs take a bit longer if the Bass is complex. But I usually master those songs quickly also.


    And regardless which negro or jew did this or that, NOBODY has invented or done so much as euro whiteys period. Most of what todays Israel, like China has and does is a direct due to being handed it free from America or they Stole the patents and blueprints, again from usa sources.


    So think what you will, but as I said I do Not like nor enjoy Jazz music, wont listen to it as it causes me to feel similar as does negro Rapp crap. And as far as modern art goes that too makes me feel edgy and is just too ugly to enjoy. Its mainly a kommie Marxist agenda to replace beautiful art works and age old church type buildings with mostly stupid square bland looking stuff.


    That's what most typical jew homes look like where I mostly worked in and at for 25 years, in Bloomfield, Birmingham, and other Detroit Suburb areas jews mainly live in.


    They seem to love goofy square block like connected parts to make a home with, and all with flat roofs...Similar to Israeli jew dwellings. Pure Ugly period. Modern maybe but still very ugly too look at. A few do have normal type homes but most do not. I worked in them all.


    Those ugly square flat roof homes look a lot like the art works on the walls inside those homes. How one can pay huge $$$ for such ugly and misshaped paintings or sculptures is amazing to me.

    But so is paying to hear Jazz music. Too Off Beat and goofy sounding. Blues, and older black blues yeah good music.

    ps: I bet you have a huge copy of your claimed mensa IQ stats hung on a liv room wall for All to see eh. And if not? Why Not? That way you wont need to keep telling everyone your IQ rate, they can see it displayed on a wall like modern art.
    , @MacNucc11
    God help Jews and Backs if jazz music is all they have to recommend them, lol. Luckily many are quite talented in acting though I hate most Hollywood productions for their crass depravity.
    I am also pretty well sick of seeing Nazis in every damn movie. Oh, goodie, they mixed it up and just went after the Germans in the new Wonder Woman. Yippee. Still won't go see it.
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  126. @USAF JAG VET
    Much to my profound frustration and chagrin, the U.S. military - in which I served as an officer during the first Gulf War - should more aptly be called the Israeli Foreign Legion. I was a young man at the time and full of patriotic fervor. I did not know what Bush the Elder meant when he spoke of a New World Order. If I only knew then what I know now.

    Mothers and fathers, please think long and hard before sending your sons and daughters to fight and die for the criminal, rogue nation of Israel.

    “JAG” Vet” : JAG meaning you were most likely an army attorney, attorneys being the most underhanded, deceptive, dishonest, dispicable criminal-minded scoundrels of any society.

    Authenticjazz “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

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    For someone who is purportedly "Mensa" qualified since 1973, you're not too bright, are you now, Skippy? For your edification, the acronym "USAF" stands for United States Air Force. I would think that someone possessing an exceptional IQ such as yourself would know that, especially if that someone purportedly served in the United States Army. By the way, in case you didn't know, the acronym "IQ" stands for intelligence quotient. Now be a good little boy and go upstairs and eat your din-din. Your mommy is calling you.
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  127. Them Guys says:
    @William Pierce
    GOD bless PGiraldi the truth warrior...JEWS chosen people of GOD!!! NOt possible so inhuman,evil people could NOT be chosen by a loving god!!! its ALL a jew lie. I find it irrational Christian evangelical support for zionism, while in Israel Christians are physically attack, harras, and stone for wearing a Jesus TShirt...attending church, mosques, ...Why do jews have this fanatical,profiund almost psychopatholigal belief that they the JEWS have ALL the absolute truths, their religions, their race, their books, their humanity, their god, a even god must check his facts with the jews…!!! not even the Nazis were so INhuman...

    Heres what their top leaders state about jewry/zios/and their JWO.

    “The Jewish people taken collectively will be its own Messiah. His reign over the Universe will be obtained by the unification of the human races and through the elimination of frontiers. (borders) A Universal Republic will come into being in which the Sons of Israel will become the directing element. We know how to dominate the Masses. The governments of all nations will gradually fall, through victory of the proletariat, into the hands of Judah. All private property will become the possession of the Princes of Israel they will own the wealth of all lands. Thus will be realized the promise of the Talmud that when the time of the Messiah comes the Jews will hold under their keys the property of all the peoples of the world.”
    — Baruch Levy in an old letter to Karl Marx, published in the Rothschild-controlled La Revue de Paris (a real literature magazine and not an “anti-Semitic” source), page 574 on June 1, 1928.

    “We should turn Her (Russia) into a desert populated with white Niggers. We will impose upon them such a tyranny that was never dreamt by the most hideous despots of the East. The peculiar trait of that tyranny is that it will be enacted from the left rather than the right and it will be red in the literal sense of that word, for we shall shed such streams of blood that all the losses of human lives in Capitalist wars will shrink and pale before them. The biggest bankers on the other side of the Atlantic will work in very close collaboration with us. If we win the Revolution, crush Russia, we shall consolidate the power of Zionism on her funereal remains and become such a force that the whole world will go down on its knees before it. We will show what real power is.”
    (Aaron Simanovich, “Memoirs”, Paris, 1922, Molodaya Gvardiya, Moscow, No. 6, 1991, p. 55.)
    — Leon Trotsky (born Lev Davidovich Bronstein) in Petrograd, December 1917.

    Trotsky was both an ardent Zionist (Israel proponent) and Bolshevik. He was also one of the biggest human butchers of the 20th century during the Red Revolution (1917-1921). After a major internal power struggle with Joseph Stalin (who may or may not have been Jewish), he worked for the subversion, degradation and eventual overthrow of White Western society from his villa in Mexico City, until Ramon Mercader (probable NKVD agent of Stalin) put an ice pick through his skull in 1940. Trotsky died soon after.

    “The Bolshevist revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a NEW ORDER IN THE WORLD. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction, and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, became a reality all over the world.”
    — The American Hebrew Magazine – September 10, 1920. Sometimes misquoted to say “New World Order.”

    “Jew and Gentile are two worlds, between you Gentiles and us Jews there lies an unbridgeable gulf… There are two life forces in the world: Jewish and Gentile…I do not believe that this primal difference between Gentile and Jew is reconcilable…”
    — Maurice Samuel, “You Gentiles,” page 9.

    “In everything, we are destroyers — even in the instruments of destruction to which we turn for relief… We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands.”
    — Maurice Samuel, “You Gentiles,” pages 152, 155, and 147.

    Under the heading of “A brief History of the Terms for Jew” in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following: “Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.”
    — 1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3 (the writer is obliquely referring to the true history of the Eastern European Ashkenazim, or Khazars). ( See also bible, Rev.2:9 & 3:9, and John 8:44,,TG’s)

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  128. Old Jew says:
    @lavoisier
    Two of the most beautiful women I ever dated were Jewish.

    …. same here…..

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  129. @Them Guys
    Echoes has obviously discovered that a person can browse through the bible, likely more so than any other book, and pretty much reinterpret verses as if they were their very own Pope, and make the bible say or approve of most anything they desire it to. They can take most any issue one can conjure or think up, and add personal Spin to out of full context bible verses, and cause it to mean or say or agree with whatever they wish it meant.

    Then there are those folks who understand that this has been an ongoing ordeal for as long as the bible has existed. What is even more baffling is how it seems that these anti-bible and anti Christian folks, actually try much harder and more often to convince others of their false interpretations and meanings etc. Than even the worst pro bible thumpers do when attempting to convince others to become a believer.

    The main difference is...The Thumper is trying to convince others of what they believe to be truth. And hold an real actual belief of.

    While the anti Christian and anti bible persons are so hard at work bashing something they claim does not even exist, or they do not believe in. If it does not even exist? or they do not believe in it...Why spend so much time writing or speaking of it?


    There may yet be a worse type, one who so misunderstands what they have read of the bible, that it confuses them into a non belief mode and lifestyle.

    I agree that it has always been thus.

    Your last inquisitive or suggestion I note as those who are of reprobate mind.

    Having misconstrued truth so long and so intently that they believe a lie is truth — thereby god givinbg them to a “reprobate mind”.

    appreciated your comments

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    So you think I am a "reprobate," i.e., unapproved by your Jewish Master that you worship? Thanks for the compliment.

    What can we say that we have discovered about our ancestor Abraham? If Abraham had Jewgod's approval because of... Romans 4:1-2
     
    I have no ancestor Abraham. I don't seek Jewish approval. That you as a white man seeking a Jewish deity's approval is utterly pathetic. I'll gladly remain unapproved by the Jew.

    How about you quit feeding the monster with your spiritual cuckoldry?
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  130. @Them Guys
    Perhaps many jews, same as American African negroes, hate seeing all the massive accomplishments, that were created and built by Other than negroes and jews. Such as beautiful sky scrappers in Dubai, and one of worlds best ever F-1 Race Tracks. Just to compare Iran's main huge modern city which compares to the best and largest American cities, and absolute beautiful White-Green/Blue/Brown eyed, Blonde/Red Head/Brunette Women and kids within Iran cities. Causes many jews to self reflect at how they lack much that others have and created.


    Picture an American African negro as he or she moves about in any of the many major cities in usa. And is constantly aware of how wonderful and great of a civilization, and its infrastructure created by European White Americans really is. How every auto the negro drives was invented by a euro White Mind. How most all they use and enjoy daily, indoor plumbing and modern electric appliance's, frozen foods, drive in burger joints, Mall's and Dept. Stores, almost every possible thing they can see or use or think of. And then the typical African negro compares it to Africa and what little, other than Mud & Feces made Huts for dwellings that melt in every rain storm, and huge numbers of kiddies they are totally unable to feed and care for properly, that their African cousins have built or created. And of course it just must literally Blow their small negro minds at such a comparison no?


    Well in many ways the original whigger aka white nigger, is the jew who appears as a euro white person, but is not. Therefore a typical jew likely hates their Arab and Dubai and Iranian neighbors as bad as usa negroes hate usa white folk. Total Envy, turned into vast Hatred. Like dem liberals, another mind sickness one can say.

    Though here you could do a little more research in black and even jewish contributions. Which I have submitted numerous times —

    the contributions are vast, juts not advertised.

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  131. @James Brown
    "As someone once said in these very pages — if you want to find out who’s in control, just find out who you can’t speak against."

    It was Voltaire who said it. And he said it better:

    "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."

    Thanks for the correction … I was going from memory, but only the gist of it remained.

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  132. Kolo says:
    @Rogue
    Never been to Israel as I stated earlier but, yes, I have heard they're generally quite arrogant and not the most friendly people. No doubt there's exceptions, I'm sure.

    But some of the same people saying how much they disliked the Israelis also remarked on the good looking women.

    Ultimately, I'm going by other people's opinions, so who knows (or cares).

    Here in my native South Africa I've met a couple of Jewish chicks in the past who were pretty good looking.

    But whatever.

    You seem obsessed with women
    Not getting enough?

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    Ooh, you are horrid ...

    Making a simple comment responding to some guy saying bollox about how Jews are all ugly and crap at sport, and you interpret this as I'm not getting enough action?

    Dude, you're pathetic.

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  133. RVBlake says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    Writing apparently as a patriotic & principled American military veteran, RVBlake said:
    "I do not recall seeing any U.S. followup to the (Vincennes) atrocity."

    Hi RVBlake,

    Above, neither do I!

    Nonetheless, a sincere thanks for your "higher" service to our very sick society & your having honorably called the U.S. Navy's attack upon the defenseless Iranian passenger airplane what it really was -- an "atrocity."

    Around the year 2006, I do recall a dreaded sense of shame when faux "war hero," Senator John McCain, modified the popular Beach Boys song lyric to "Barbara Ann," and to the delight of his Zio indoctrinated political supporters (at a rally), he fiendishly intoned, "Bomb, bomb Iran!"

    Fyi, RVBlake, a few months ago, author & U.S. military veteran, Philip Giraldi, wrote a great U.R. article about our "Zionized military."

    On Independence Day Eve, you will ever more so appreciate P.G.'s higher service to our country. Thanks again!

    Thank you. The only reason I ever read The American Conservative years ago was Phil Giraldi. I was astounded when I learned he worked for the CIA. Speaking of atrocities, this may not qualify, but days after the Gulf War, in ’91, there was a local luncheon given for the officers stationed at various units in the city, Savannah, GA. I didn’t attend, as usual, but the lieutenant with whom I shared an office did, and she informed me of the festivities. After lunch, apparently they set up a projector and began showing live footage of the Highway of Death, the road from Kuwait to Iraq, filled with fleeing, terrified Iraqi soldiers on their way home, with no taste for combat. My colleague told me of the laughter that filled the luncheon room at the sight of the Americans bombing and littering the Highway with the mangled remains of the Iraqis. It was nauseating to hear of this reaction.

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    They did this bombing and killing of surrendering Iraqis - 150000- on Purim day in 1991. It was part of the plan. 2003 US attack on Iraq started on Purim. 2011 US attack on Libya started on Purim. Even Dresden 1945 bombing started on Purim. Ziocrazies have been ruling the west for a very long time.
    , @ChuckOrloski
    Hi RVBlake,

    I disdain U.S. military officers who would assemble and laugh at live footage from the "Highway of Death."

    Fyi, I am the only son (child) of the late WWII veteran, P.F.C. Charles Orloski, Sr. Wounded by Japanese mortar fire during Leyte combat, my father spoke proudly about having fought Japs / Nips. Fowler & Williams truck driver, a patriotic Teamster, my Dad was also grateful for Harry Truman's nuclear bombing of Hiroshima & Nagasaki because it "saved American soldier lives."

    Fyi, in August 1970, drafted, I entered Basic Training at Fort Polk, La. and also did 11-Bravo A.I T. in North Fort (Polk).

    Incredibly, the antiwar movement was active among "Fresh Meat" inside barracks but every soldier was indoctrinated to hate what Springsteen rather flippantly described (in song) as the "Yellow Man."

    While marching along toward "Tigerland," every recruit had to sing, "I wannabe an Airborne Ranger, I wanna live a life of danger, & I wanna kill some Charlie Cong."
    Except the gung-ho and "Grunts" who desired officer promotion "bars," most of the guys in my Company just wanted to smoke, fuck, & go home.

    At present, I hate how the George H.W. Bush administration easily managed to make average Americans "get over" their hesitancy about the unnecessary, immoral, & deadly Vietnam War and proceed to dust Islamics Republican Guard in what Patrick Buchanan called a "Turkey Shoot" & where General Schwarzkopf became a heroic conqueror, household name.

    By the time of the infamous W. Bush Zionist presidency, the all volunteer ZUS Army was indoctrinated to hate and want to kill Muslims, a.k.a., those "ragheads" who did 9/11 & have WMD's.

    Taking target practice at the Koran, shooting & tossing Muzzies into river, raiding Iraqi mosques, and "non-combatant" prisoner torture became S.O.P., rules-of-engagement.

    (Zigh) NFL's Pat Tillman was going-ho once.

    And poor (& pregnant?) Private Lyndie England? She never got a distinguished service medal for her role at Abu Ghraib & I really wonder what she'll be doing tomorrow, Fourth of July.

    I'll try & stop yapping now, RVBlake. Summarized, I support the basic soldier who wants to believe in an honorable America. And not the ZUS War Criminals, Pentagon Chiefs of Staff, & M.I.C. contractors who collectively "drum-up" global work opportunities.

    Fyi, nine total years service, stateside, discharged in 1979, Specialist 4, Pennsylvania Army Reserves National Guard.
    (zzZigh) I did not fight the "Yellow Man, but come Winter 2001, & employed by a Syracuse, NY-based private corporation, I did many bizarre Haz-Mat emergency responses to White Powder (Anthrax) threats in eastern Pennsylvania.

    Some incidents were gut-busting laughers for the Field Technicians and me!

    Thanks for patience, RV.
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  134. Rogue says:
    @Tyrion 2
    In 1900, the churches were full and the British ruled the world. In 2018, the churches are empty and the British don't even rule most of London.

    Good point.

    Nature abhors a vacuum. Western Europe has largely ejected Christianity.

    Islam will happily fill the void.

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  135. @Wally
    Jews mock killing of pregnant Palestinians and children.
    https://nawaat.org/portail/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/israel_t-shirt.jpg

    Two teenage Israeli girls carrying a placard in Hebrew reading: "Hating Arabs is not racism, it's values."
    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02962/jewish-girls_2962213c.jpg

    www.codoh.com

    And jews wonder why the world has tried to get rid of them? Really?

    How can so many folks who are self-described as being so superior to all of the rest of the Creation in intellect and otherwise be so clueless?

    Arrogance is NOT a virtue …

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    Don't forget, Jew have been claiming the fake '6,000,000' since at least 1823.
    Always looking to be carried by gentiles.
    Their lack of pride & honor is shameful.

    www.codoh.com

    https://imgur.com/a/0LFFF
    http://balder.org/judea/billeder-judea/Scan-New-York-Times-Six-Million-Since-1869-Composite.jpg
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php
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  136. Them Guys says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    Without the enormous artistic contributions by Jews and Negros in the field of music, America would be a much poorer place : Gershwin, Kern, Hammerstein, Arlen, etc, dozens, or hundreds of the most creative jewish composers who constitute the basis of the "Great American songbook".

    And then the black musical geniuses : Charlie Parker, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Count Basie, Duke Ellington, the list is too long to post here.

    Perhaps the one American architect worthy of being considered a match for classical European history being one Albert Kahn, native Detroiter, Jew, and artist supreme in his field, the area of so-called art-deco : his Detroit creations being the most supreme examples of this art concept world-wide.

    "Like dem liberals, another mind sickness one can say" . I have no idea what you are trying to express with this inane quip, however one thing is more than clear : you are an uncultured, crude BSer.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    I do not like nor consider Jazz music, and modern art deco as anything to be so praised as you do.

    If the art you speak of is that modern art where stupid sculptures that 100 persons can say it looks like 300 different things, or some huge million dollar steel off kilter square object that is not quite square, or Detroit’s Massive Dark Bronze Joe Louis arm and “black power Fist” pointed at Canada across the Detroit River front. Is your idea of great art works? You can keep it.

    And while you claim to be a fantastic jazz musician, and maybe are, I prefer Rock music and sometimes symphony type concert music.

    I also used to play Bass Guitar, and was very good at it. And could be again with a couple months practice if I desired to do so. No, unlike you I never studied at worlds biggest, best high IQ music schools….Then again, I didn’t need to as I am quite able to pick up on and play by ear a song before its done playing on a radio station usually. Some songs take a bit longer if the Bass is complex. But I usually master those songs quickly also.

    And regardless which negro or jew did this or that, NOBODY has invented or done so much as euro whiteys period. Most of what todays Israel, like China has and does is a direct due to being handed it free from America or they Stole the patents and blueprints, again from usa sources.

    So think what you will, but as I said I do Not like nor enjoy Jazz music, wont listen to it as it causes me to feel similar as does negro Rapp crap. And as far as modern art goes that too makes me feel edgy and is just too ugly to enjoy. Its mainly a kommie Marxist agenda to replace beautiful art works and age old church type buildings with mostly stupid square bland looking stuff.

    That’s what most typical jew homes look like where I mostly worked in and at for 25 years, in Bloomfield, Birmingham, and other Detroit Suburb areas jews mainly live in.

    They seem to love goofy square block like connected parts to make a home with, and all with flat roofs…Similar to Israeli jew dwellings. Pure Ugly period. Modern maybe but still very ugly too look at. A few do have normal type homes but most do not. I worked in them all.

    Those ugly square flat roof homes look a lot like the art works on the walls inside those homes. How one can pay huge $$$ for such ugly and misshaped paintings or sculptures is amazing to me.

    But so is paying to hear Jazz music. Too Off Beat and goofy sounding. Blues, and older black blues yeah good music.

    ps: I bet you have a huge copy of your claimed mensa IQ stats hung on a liv room wall for All to see eh. And if not? Why Not? That way you wont need to keep telling everyone your IQ rate, they can see it displayed on a wall like modern art.

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    " I do not like or enjoy jazz music".

    So goody for you as millions of other folks world-wide do in fact love jazz music, and prefer it over crude two chord rock : music for simpletons.

    "I bet you have a huge copy of your claimed mensa IQ stats hung on liv room wall"

    No I do however still have the gold-embossed mensa acceptance certificate, which I have held since 1973, and have a nice day, plus a hearty touche'

    AJM
    , @jacques sheete

    But so is paying to hear Jazz music. Too Off Beat and goofy sounding. Blues, and older black blues yeah good music.
     
    Yup, most of it is basically garbage and even the Zionist Max Nordau would likely have called it "degenerate" like the rest of the perverse garbage "art" (entartete kunst) you described so well.

    I have to laugh at the fools who claim artistic and intellectual superiority based on their supposed understanding and admiration for ugly, discordant, worthless, foolishness. But hey, they preen their egos assuring themselves that they're not only "smart" but "kool" too!

    Tsk, tsk.
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  137. Rogue says:
    @Wally
    You must mean the beautiful Russian women who claim to be Jewish so they can go to 'Israel' & get free stuff. Thanks to US taxpayers, that is.

    The average female Jew, well, the description 'mud fence' comes to mind.

    www.codoh.com

    Gosh Wally, you are such a neutral when it comes to the Jews. Please, stop being such a fence-sitter. Tell us your real thoughts!

    BTW, how is anyone supposed to take your Codoh carry-on seriously? You often preface the Codoh web address with “no name calling, level playing field” but you’re not exactly proof of that, are you?

    The Holocaust might be something of a scam (or at least lied about and exaggerated a lot), but you hardly strike me as the voice of neutral, academic concern.

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    Why not just go to codoh website and see for your self? I hope you are not like some jews and shabozz goys here who demand proof links etc. And then when provided with it, they reply back with something akin to: "oh I went to check the website link you gave me, and all I can tell you is I did not read more than two words because I saw various website flags or Gulp! Saw a swastika, so I refuse to read another word or article there.....Now gimme yet more proof links I can reject because as per usual we jews and shabozz goys will never change our minds no matter what. We shabozz goys and jews invented the phrase of "Do not try to confuse me/us with real Facts and Truths as my/our minds made up already and no amount of facts or truths can ever change it"....Then most dem libs and lefty Marxists adopted that as their main slogan.

    I'd bet if you checked out codoh articles you'd walk away with a new mindset and perhaps a huge Re-think on wwii and jewish issues.
    , @Wally
    OK, big talking "Rogue", check it out for yourself.
    Register at the CODOH Forum and give it your best shot.
    There is no name calling and dodging there. So come on, quit making excuses.
    I'm calling your bluff.

    BTW, Ron Unz's site is obviously completely different in tone and moderation, yet I'm the only one you criticize for language. Give me a bloody break, you're showing your hand.
    I also note that you cannot refute anything that I have posted in this thread and in the many, many other threads at this site where there are a multitude 'holocau$t' debunking posts by me and many others. *

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are laughable, scientifically impossible frauds. See the 'holocaust' scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

    * Try another one:
    'Some Technical and Chemical Considerations about the 'Gas Chambers' of Auschwitz and Birkenau'
    by Master Chemist Germar Rudolf
    http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndgcger.html

    , @Druid
    So if it IS a scam, Wally is justified!
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  138. @UncommonGround

    Well, where do the people get their ideas anyway? The mass media.
     
    In Germany there was recently a bad case of antisemitism which was reported widely in the media. A large newspaper had a long article telling how a Jewish pupil in an elite school in Berlin was harassed or bullyed for months and that the school didn't do enough to protect him. It's a school to which the sons of ambassators, of diplomatic personal and of the international high class community in Berlin go. The article brought many details about the case: how they told the pupil that Ausschwitz wasn't far away (or something similar) and so on. The case even came in the television news of the main German channel (I only watched the late news, but I think that the case also came in the absolutely main news of German television at 8 o'clock P.M.). The media spoke of "antisemitism in Berlin." A pupil was harassed and told a few unpleasant things in a school in Berlin and this came in the main tv news of the country! The most important weekly magazine had also an article about "antisemitism in Berlin". At the end of the long article they told something that the other midia hadn't told. The pupil had been harassed because he favoured the Palestinians! The colleagues who bullyed him were probably American Jews.

    Thanks for the interesting news item.

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  139. Tsigantes says:
    @Tyrion 2
    Tourist numbers say otherwise.

    As you know well the bulk of Israeli tourists are American & European jews (and jewish student groups) – or – Christian tour groups. Very specific tourism, not general tourism.

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  140. Robjil says:
    @RVBlake
    Thank you. The only reason I ever read The American Conservative years ago was Phil Giraldi. I was astounded when I learned he worked for the CIA. Speaking of atrocities, this may not qualify, but days after the Gulf War, in '91, there was a local luncheon given for the officers stationed at various units in the city, Savannah, GA. I didn't attend, as usual, but the lieutenant with whom I shared an office did, and she informed me of the festivities. After lunch, apparently they set up a projector and began showing live footage of the Highway of Death, the road from Kuwait to Iraq, filled with fleeing, terrified Iraqi soldiers on their way home, with no taste for combat. My colleague told me of the laughter that filled the luncheon room at the sight of the Americans bombing and littering the Highway with the mangled remains of the Iraqis. It was nauseating to hear of this reaction.

    They did this bombing and killing of surrendering Iraqis – 150000- on Purim day in 1991. It was part of the plan. 2003 US attack on Iraq started on Purim. 2011 US attack on Libya started on Purim. Even Dresden 1945 bombing started on Purim. Ziocrazies have been ruling the west for a very long time.

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    Wow, is this accurate? Can you provide the dates? When is Purim day annually? What is Purim day? I know I have heard of it and it has something to do with revenge and the Talmud but other than that I am pretty ignorant. Is it the same day every year?
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  141. renfro says:
    @Rogue
    I always like Mr Giraldi's articles but some of the comments can be a bit crappy. Like yours, for example.

    I've never been to Israel but everyone I know who has and with no axe to grind, has commented on how stunning the young Israeli women were.

    You might be more right about the sport issue, although coming from South Africa it used to be said (in the past) that you could only have a successful Springbok rugby team (national team) if you had a jew in it.

    Anyway, I'm certainly not defending Israel's actions, but some people just mouth off the first bit of rubbish that comes to mind.

    Nose jobs and hair re-dos for Jewish girls have made some more attractive and made a lot of plastic surgeons and cosmetologist rich. …but in general Jewish girls aren’t very attractive compared to other groups.
    Oddly enough the perception of their less attractiveness has persisted thru out and despite the popular cycles of what is considered attractive.

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    On my one visit to Israel I thought the IDF girls were pretty attractive. Dammit, if I hadn't been so slow and clumsy I would be able to post a selfie of me and the little smiley blonde with the machine gun slung around her.
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  142. Anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    The minority groups in Iran, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, would laugh at you and the Jew of Iran prefer Iran to Israel
     
    Yet they are all constantly murdering each other....

    Yet they are all constantly murdering each other….

    Hardly. Let’s take them one by one. I’d expect you of all people to be sympathetic to the position Lebanon is in. In Syria there’s a significant portion of Sunni Arabs who resent not living under a Sunni Arab government and are willing to slaughter their way to one; once again I’d expect you to understand that situation. In Jordan there were, quite a while back, clashes between Palestinians and locals; once again (I’m using this phrase a lot) I’d expect that to be a not unfamiliar situation to you. In Iran– well, I’m not quite sure what you’re talking about in that case, actually.

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    I'm sympathetic to all of them. Sympathy does not preclude recognising the facts however.

    They're all countries full of great people with fantastic histories, but I cannot help but recognise their huge internal problems.

    As for Iran, their Arabs and Baluchis do not have a fun time of it. Nevermind the Baha'i, who are horribly oppressed. Their religion is banned, as is atheism.
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  143. tac says:

    A 13 year old child and 24 year old man, were both executed by Israeli Snipers on Friday [June 29th]. Along with the dead came upwards of 420 injuries, this included medical personnel and journalists. Instead of running stories in an attempt to whitewash the murders and injuries this Friday, Mainstream Media completely ignored the entire series of events.

    https://21stcenturywire.com/2018/07/01/video-msm-refuses-to-cover-gaza-killings/

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  144. renfro says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Discussion on another thread of motives Israel might have had for killing JFK included suggestions that the Kennedy brothers attempts to get Zioniist lobbyists to register as foreign agents might have been very serious for Israel. Without doing the research which a lawyer being paid for his opinion would put into it I nonetheless formed a confident view that the argument had no legs.

    No it appears AIPAC isn't a foreign lobby. If you don't like what it does you would say it is much worse - but untouchable by Mueller.

    It is perhaps peripheral to your comment but I suggest that the reality is that the same rich Americans who have long supported Israel have set up perfectly legal American organizations that happen to reflect Israeli policy in their lobbying without being legally controlled or controllable by Israel.

    Without doing the research which a lawyer being paid for his opinion would put into it I nonetheless formed a confident view that the argument had no legs.

    ”’……Without doing the research’…….well that is evident in your claim.

    Would suggest you read upon the Fulbright Senate Hearings on the ZOA-1963…..a hearing on fifth column ZOA propaganda infiltration of US media and press.

    But don’t think you will…anytime someone says I didnt do the research but”…what they mean is the old ignoramus stand by of….’don’t confuse me with the facts my mind’s made up.’

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    I find it a little disheartening when someone who occasionally provides interesting info on UR shows himself capable of missing the point completely without while being confident he hasn't. The Fulbright hearings might show someone adverting to my point but are not where I would do my research to back up what a reasonable non expert knowledge of US law tells me. The point is that rich Americans can set up an institution to intone consistent amens to diplomatic approaches to America by any tinpot country they like and to lobby politicians like any other legal American organisation. Can they not?
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  145. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Anon

    Yet they are all constantly murdering each other….
     
    Hardly. Let's take them one by one. I'd expect you of all people to be sympathetic to the position Lebanon is in. In Syria there's a significant portion of Sunni Arabs who resent not living under a Sunni Arab government and are willing to slaughter their way to one; once again I'd expect you to understand that situation. In Jordan there were, quite a while back, clashes between Palestinians and locals; once again (I'm using this phrase a lot) I'd expect that to be a not unfamiliar situation to you. In Iran-- well, I'm not quite sure what you're talking about in that case, actually.

    I’m sympathetic to all of them. Sympathy does not preclude recognising the facts however.

    They’re all countries full of great people with fantastic histories, but I cannot help but recognise their huge internal problems.

    As for Iran, their Arabs and Baluchis do not have a fun time of it. Nevermind the Baha’i, who are horribly oppressed. Their religion is banned, as is atheism.

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    Yes, but Christians and Jews are doing fine in Iran and no one is killing each other, but keep pushing the msm talking points. This is not a world view knowledgeable people share. You spout this crap and a) hope no one calls you on it and b) take note of who does.
    , @Anon

    As for Iran, their Arabs and Baluchis do not have a fun time of it.
     
    Cosi, cosa. Is there a net migration of Iranian Arabs to Israel? (That's a legitimate question, I don't know the answer.) Bahais do indeed have it tough there under the historic Islamic treatment of apostates-- no fun at all.

    The point in discussion of the other countries is that their problems are basically similar to those Israel faces-- rather less serious in the case of Jordan, much more serious in the case of Syria (where, incidentally, the government treats minorities just fine-- it's the majority that has a problem). Syria is also not helped by the fact that for a period of years the US was actively trying to destabilize it (with, it must be said, enthusiastic participation on the part of a fair portion of the people; if your point was that Muslim Arabs are very good at causing problems, point taken).
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  146. Moi says:
    @Z-man
    That crazed looking group of young fanatical Zionists taunting a Palestinian mother and child is a classic. ZOG has got to be defeated!
    However , speaking of that 'Latina' who beat a political hack in Queens and the Bronx, she's already started to edit some of her internet posts. She knows who rules and will get in line with the 'mainstream' Zionist party line. She's also an 'open borders' radical which doesn't sit well with the likes of me and most Americans. She's also a 'Bronx girl' by way of suburban Westchester county, lol. As phony as phony gets.

    They’ll straighten her out soon enough.

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  147. KenH says:
    @AndrewR
    You don't have to support "affirmatively furthering fair housing" to admit that where you're raised has a significant effect on your life outcomes. Sounds like your dislike of her is reflexive and utterly thoughtless.

    And you’re a troll who speaks out of both sides of your mouth. Your response is equally reflexive and thoughtless and adds absolutely nothing to the subject.

    You don’t have to support “affirmatively furthering fair housing” to admit that where you’re raised has a significant effect on your life outcomes.

    Life isn’t equal and life isn’t fair. Get over it. Most blacks and Latinos are in the situation they’re in because of lower IQ, poor work ethic and predisposition to crime and yet they still live better here in the USA than in their own nations. Ocasio-Cortez just wants to punish the successful and reward the chronic layabouts and malcontents.

    You’re obviously a knee jerk environmental determinist.

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    Lol seek cognitive therapy for your borderline personality disorder
    , @renfro

    Get over it. Most blacks and Latinos are in the situation they’re in because of lower IQ, poor work ethic and predisposition to crime and yet they still live better here in the USA than in their own nations
     
    While I don't dispute differences between groups and allow for sub group differences.....
    You need to accept the fact that everyone is 'an accident of birth'...including you.
    A few missteps your ancestral history...a natural dsaster, a migration, a marriage, a war and you too could have been born a hispanic black Russian ...lol
    , @MacNucc11
    I would not call the latinos lazy. They are pretty darn industrious people. I think most of them want to make an honest living and I see them working all kinds of jobs in my city in upstate New York and they are never sullen or disrespectful. Most of them decent and fun to be around. Good people who love their families and are religious. Sure there is a criminal element which cannot be denied. It occurs to me that organized crime has been a stepping stone to more legitimate careers for many groups new to the U.S. Irish, Italian, Jew all figured prominently in crime at one time. Even though most Asian are hard working there is a well documented criminal element. Latino covers a lot of territory as well. Colombia, Uruguay, Argentina, Panama and Chile are Hispanic countries I have considered expatriating to. My niece lives in Costa Rica and has married a Costa Rican. Mexico was nice when I visited many years ago but I hear it has gotten much worse since. This Ocasio- Cortez woman made some good comments regarding the plight of the Palestinians but likely it was political expedience. I doubt I or many latinos for that matter have much use for her. She is certainly naïve at best in a support of BLM since there is no united front among blacks and Hispanics. The political creatures that populate the dems (see Soros) push this fantasy which is why Trump did better with both groups than prior republican candidates.
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  148. MacNucc11 says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    Without the enormous artistic contributions by Jews and Negros in the field of music, America would be a much poorer place : Gershwin, Kern, Hammerstein, Arlen, etc, dozens, or hundreds of the most creative jewish composers who constitute the basis of the "Great American songbook".

    And then the black musical geniuses : Charlie Parker, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Count Basie, Duke Ellington, the list is too long to post here.

    Perhaps the one American architect worthy of being considered a match for classical European history being one Albert Kahn, native Detroiter, Jew, and artist supreme in his field, the area of so-called art-deco : his Detroit creations being the most supreme examples of this art concept world-wide.

    "Like dem liberals, another mind sickness one can say" . I have no idea what you are trying to express with this inane quip, however one thing is more than clear : you are an uncultured, crude BSer.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    God help Jews and Backs if jazz music is all they have to recommend them, lol. Luckily many are quite talented in acting though I hate most Hollywood productions for their crass depravity.
    I am also pretty well sick of seeing Nazis in every damn movie. Oh, goodie, they mixed it up and just went after the Germans in the new Wonder Woman. Yippee. Still won’t go see it.

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    " God help Jews and blacks if jazz music is all they have to recommend them, lol"

    You obviously have no clue as to the existance, or the contents of the grandios so-called : "Great American songbook", to which jewish composers have afforded a huge contribution.

    The "Great American songbook" is not about Jazz per se', even though it's tunes are indeed often employed within the execution of jazz music.

    The "Great American songbook involves "Americana", love stories and tragedy, all within an American context.

    AJM
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  149. MacNucc11 says:
    @Tyrion 2
    I'm sympathetic to all of them. Sympathy does not preclude recognising the facts however.

    They're all countries full of great people with fantastic histories, but I cannot help but recognise their huge internal problems.

    As for Iran, their Arabs and Baluchis do not have a fun time of it. Nevermind the Baha'i, who are horribly oppressed. Their religion is banned, as is atheism.

    Yes, but Christians and Jews are doing fine in Iran and no one is killing each other, but keep pushing the msm talking points. This is not a world view knowledgeable people share. You spout this crap and a) hope no one calls you on it and b) take note of who does.

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    The Christians and Jews are only second class citizens so it doesn't matter that the Arabs are third class, the Baluchis are 10th class and the Baha"i are banned?

    Truly, Iran is wonderful to its minorities...
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  150. renfro says:
    @FKA Max

    One paragraph in particular in the article I read was highly suggestive, the claim that Ocasio-Cortez had been strongly opposed to the Israelis’ routine slaughter of Palestinians in Gaza, which has by now become of such little import that it is not even reported any more in the U.S. media.
     
    This is one of the positive aspects/side effects of a larger Hispanic population in the U.S.:

    The same goes for the U.S., the more (especially Hispanic) Catholic the U.S. becomes, by (Mexican, etc.) immigration and/or higher Hispanic birth rates, the less pro-Israel it will be.

    Views are more mixed among Hispanic Catholics – 36% sympathize more with Israel and 25% more with the Palestinians, while 24% volunteer that they sympathize with neither side.
     
    – http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/05/23/5-facts-about-how-americans-view-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/
     
    - https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-lobby-british-style/#comment-2049211

    http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/05/FT_16.05.20_IsraelPalestiniansC_religion.png

    The Trump Administration could, of course, stop the Israeli brutality if it chooses to do so, but it does not think Benjamin Netanyahu’s crimes against humanity are on the agenda.
     
    I agree. It's not gonna happen...

    I actually believe that Jews have less power in the U.S. than they have in Russia, this is why I, personally, prefer the U.S. to Russia despite all its shortcomings, etc., however under Trump, at least on the executive branch level, this has been changing because of Ivanka and Jared Kushner, etc.

    Besides having dual loyalties due to Israel, Jews are known to be one of the most ethnocentric/clannish ethnic-religious groups, with one of the highest rates of ethnic-religious networking and nepotism, etc.
    [...]
    Jews have a clannishness rating comparable to Southern Europeans (6-7), which is pretty high, but with Orthodox Jews it is even higher, probably in the 8-11 range
    [...]
    if we take 1 as the least clannish and 10 as the most clannish,
    [...]
    1 – the english (not all of them — probably not the cornish, for instance), some of the dutch
    2 – the scandinavians
    3 or 4 – the irish
    6-7 – the italians, the greeks, the chinese
    7-8 – the albanians
    10 – the yanomamo
    11 – the arabs
     
    - http://www.unz.com/tsaker/no-fifth-column-in-the-kremlin-think-again/#comment-2399889

    Laibach : YISRA’EL

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Piwkx5x5Rtc

    If people want to use polls I suggest they use the gold standard WPOP fielded by the Unv of Maryland instead of polls like Pew which are funded by the Pew Charitable Trust , which is basically a ‘Think Tank” that then presents its polls to congress trying to affect political decisions on issues. People need to be wary of what is an ‘opinion maker’ instead of just an opinion taker.

    Here is a more detailed accurate picture…..bear in mind also that evans are only 10% of the population and other factors like party affiliation affect their views. One also has to wonder “IF” the evans as well as the other public were exposed to the real story on Israel and not the slanted version of the US med how that would affect the numbers.

    http://worldpublicopinion.net/what-americans-especially-evangelicals-think-about-israel-and-the-middle-east/

    What Americans (especially Evangelicals) think about Israel and the Middle East
    Evangicals, International Action, Israel, Middle East / North Africa, Views on Countries/Regions December 4, 2015,

    A new poll shows that in dealing with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict overall, an overwhelming 77% of Evangelical Republicans want the United States to lean toward Israel as compared to 29% to Americans overall and 36% of non-Evangelical Republicans.

    In contrast 66% of all Americans and 60% of Non-Evangelical Republicans want the United States to lean toward neither side.

    This pattern holds on other aspects of US policy toward the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. If the UN Security Council considers endorsing the establishment of a Palestinian state, only 26% of all Americans and 38% of non-Evangelical Republicans favor the US voting against it. However six in ten Evangelical Republicans say that the US should vote against it, thus vetoing the move.

    Evangelical Republicans also differ in that they pay far more attention to a candidate’s position on Israel. When considering which candidate to vote for in Congress or for president just 26% of all Americans and 33% of non-Evangelical Republicans say they consider the candidates position on Israel a lot. Among Evangelical Republicans 64% say they consider it a lot.
    Views of Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also vary dramatically. Among the general public just 32 percent have a favorable view of Netanyahu, as do 47 percent of non-Evangelical Republicans. Favorable views rise to 66% among Evangelicals.
    When asked, in an open-ended question, to name a national leader they most admire 22 percent of Republican Evangelicals chose Netanyahu, far more than any other leader.
    Among Non-Evangelical Republicans 9 percent named Netanyahu and 6 percent for the public as a whole.
    Evangelical Republicans represent 23% of all Republicans and 10% of the general population.
    “There are of course partisan differences on Middle East policy in American public attitudes, but what’s most striking is that much of the differences between Republicans and the national total disappears once one sets aside Evangelical Republicans, who constitute 10% of all Americans” said Shibley Telhami, the poll’s principal investigator. “The Israel issue in American politics is seen to have become principally a Republican issue, but in fact, our results show, it’s principally the issue of Evangelical Republicans.”

    One possible explanation for Evangelical Republicans’ attitudes is their religious views. Sixty-six percent of Evangelical Republicans say that for the rapture or Second Coming to occur it is essential for current-day Israel to include all the land they believe was promised to Biblical Israel in the Old Testament, with 35% holding this view strongly.
    The poll was sponsored by the Sadat Chair at the University of Maryland, and conducted in cooperation with the University’s Program for Public Consultation, and released at the Brookings Institution. It was fielded by Nielsen Scarborough November 4-11, 2015, among a nationally representative sample of online panelists of 875, plus an oversample of Evangelicals/Born-Again Christians of 863. The margin of error is 3-4%.
    Other Select Findings:
    Overall, twice as many Americans say the Israeli government has too much influence (37%) than say too little influence (18%), while a plurality (44%) say it’s the right level. Among Democrats, about half (49%) say Israel has too much influence, compared with 14% who say Israel has too little influence, and 36% who say it’s the right level; Among Republicans, slightly more people say that Israel has too much influence (25%) than say it has too little influence (22%) with a slight majority (52%) saying it’s the right level. The percentage of people who think that Israel has too little influence increases with age: 8% of 18-24 year olds feel this way in contrast to 17% of 25-44 year olds, 20% of 45-64 year olds, and 22% of those who are 65 years of age and older.
    Given five options to explain the escalation of Israeli-Palestinian violence the largest number–31%–attributes it to the absence of serious peace diplomacy, while 26% blame continued Israeli occupation and settlement expansion in the West Bank, and the same number blame Palestinian extremists. Only 6% each blame Israeli extremists and Palestinian authority ineffectiveness
    Concerns about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are driven more by considerations related to human right and international law than US interests. Offered five options to explain their concern, the largest number — 47%– say human rights or international law, while 32% say America’s interest. Thirteen percent say cite religious beliefs, while 8% express concern for Israel’s interests.

    Overall, 37% of Americans (and 49% of Democrats) recommend punitive measures against Israel over its settlement policy (27% recommend economic sanctions, and 10% recommend taking more serious action); 31% recommend that the U.S. limits its opposition to words, 27% recommend that the U.S. do nothing.
    American views of Muslims are strikingly partisan. While 67% of Democrats express favorable views of Muslims, only 41% of Republicans do.
    73% of Evangelicals say that world events will turn against Israel the closer we get to the rapture or end and 78% say that the unfolding violence across the Middle East is a sign that the end times are nearer.

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    A look at what the public says Trump should do.


    When asked whether Trump should lean toward Israel toward Israel or Palestine or Neither

    http://worldpublicopinion.net/palestine-and-israel-in-the-shadow-of-the-election-what-do-americans-want-obama-and-trump-to-do/

    Favor Israel

    Repubs - 56%
    Dems - 17%
    Independents - 29%

    Favor Neither Israel or Palestine

    Repubs - 42%
    Dems -69%
    Independents- 66%

    , @Rogue
    I have to admit I wince at the statistics regarding the Evangelicals views of the so-called chosen.

    Being, loosely, an Evangelical myself, I believe that the Jews are utterly not the chosen people. Any reasonable reading of the New Testament should convince any neutral reader that the chosen are followers of Christ, regardless of race or culture.

    Christian Zionism is not the way forward, though many Christian Zionists are well-intentioned.
    , @FKA Max
    Thank you very much for this comprehensive, high-quality opinion poll information/data, renfro!

    People need to be wary of what is an ‘opinion maker’ instead of just an opinion taker.
     
    Very good and important point!

    Thanks again!

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  151. renfro says:
    @renfro
    If people want to use polls I suggest they use the gold standard WPOP fielded by the Unv of Maryland instead of polls like Pew which are funded by the Pew Charitable Trust , which is basically a 'Think Tank" that then presents its polls to congress trying to affect political decisions on issues. People need to be wary of what is an 'opinion maker' instead of just an opinion taker.

    Here is a more detailed accurate picture.....bear in mind also that evans are only 10% of the population and other factors like party affiliation affect their views. One also has to wonder "IF" the evans as well as the other public were exposed to the real story on Israel and not the slanted version of the US med how that would affect the numbers.

    http://worldpublicopinion.net/what-americans-especially-evangelicals-think-about-israel-and-the-middle-east/

    What Americans (especially Evangelicals) think about Israel and the Middle East
    Evangicals, International Action, Israel, Middle East / North Africa, Views on Countries/Regions December 4, 2015,

    A new poll shows that in dealing with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict overall, an overwhelming 77% of Evangelical Republicans want the United States to lean toward Israel as compared to 29% to Americans overall and 36% of non-Evangelical Republicans.

    In contrast 66% of all Americans and 60% of Non-Evangelical Republicans want the United States to lean toward neither side.

    This pattern holds on other aspects of US policy toward the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. If the UN Security Council considers endorsing the establishment of a Palestinian state, only 26% of all Americans and 38% of non-Evangelical Republicans favor the US voting against it. However six in ten Evangelical Republicans say that the US should vote against it, thus vetoing the move.

    Evangelical Republicans also differ in that they pay far more attention to a candidate’s position on Israel. When considering which candidate to vote for in Congress or for president just 26% of all Americans and 33% of non-Evangelical Republicans say they consider the candidates position on Israel a lot. Among Evangelical Republicans 64% say they consider it a lot.
    Views of Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also vary dramatically. Among the general public just 32 percent have a favorable view of Netanyahu, as do 47 percent of non-Evangelical Republicans. Favorable views rise to 66% among Evangelicals.
    When asked, in an open-ended question, to name a national leader they most admire 22 percent of Republican Evangelicals chose Netanyahu, far more than any other leader.
    Among Non-Evangelical Republicans 9 percent named Netanyahu and 6 percent for the public as a whole.
    Evangelical Republicans represent 23% of all Republicans and 10% of the general population.
    “There are of course partisan differences on Middle East policy in American public attitudes, but what’s most striking is that much of the differences between Republicans and the national total disappears once one sets aside Evangelical Republicans, who constitute 10% of all Americans” said Shibley Telhami, the poll’s principal investigator. “The Israel issue in American politics is seen to have become principally a Republican issue, but in fact, our results show, it’s principally the issue of Evangelical Republicans.”

    One possible explanation for Evangelical Republicans’ attitudes is their religious views. Sixty-six percent of Evangelical Republicans say that for the rapture or Second Coming to occur it is essential for current-day Israel to include all the land they believe was promised to Biblical Israel in the Old Testament, with 35% holding this view strongly.
    The poll was sponsored by the Sadat Chair at the University of Maryland, and conducted in cooperation with the University’s Program for Public Consultation, and released at the Brookings Institution. It was fielded by Nielsen Scarborough November 4-11, 2015, among a nationally representative sample of online panelists of 875, plus an oversample of Evangelicals/Born-Again Christians of 863. The margin of error is 3-4%.
    Other Select Findings:
    Overall, twice as many Americans say the Israeli government has too much influence (37%) than say too little influence (18%), while a plurality (44%) say it’s the right level. Among Democrats, about half (49%) say Israel has too much influence, compared with 14% who say Israel has too little influence, and 36% who say it’s the right level; Among Republicans, slightly more people say that Israel has too much influence (25%) than say it has too little influence (22%) with a slight majority (52%) saying it’s the right level. The percentage of people who think that Israel has too little influence increases with age: 8% of 18-24 year olds feel this way in contrast to 17% of 25-44 year olds, 20% of 45-64 year olds, and 22% of those who are 65 years of age and older.
    Given five options to explain the escalation of Israeli-Palestinian violence the largest number–31%–attributes it to the absence of serious peace diplomacy, while 26% blame continued Israeli occupation and settlement expansion in the West Bank, and the same number blame Palestinian extremists. Only 6% each blame Israeli extremists and Palestinian authority ineffectiveness
    Concerns about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are driven more by considerations related to human right and international law than US interests. Offered five options to explain their concern, the largest number — 47%– say human rights or international law, while 32% say America’s interest. Thirteen percent say cite religious beliefs, while 8% express concern for Israel’s interests.

    Overall, 37% of Americans (and 49% of Democrats) recommend punitive measures against Israel over its settlement policy (27% recommend economic sanctions, and 10% recommend taking more serious action); 31% recommend that the U.S. limits its opposition to words, 27% recommend that the U.S. do nothing.
    American views of Muslims are strikingly partisan. While 67% of Democrats express favorable views of Muslims, only 41% of Republicans do.
    73% of Evangelicals say that world events will turn against Israel the closer we get to the rapture or end and 78% say that the unfolding violence across the Middle East is a sign that the end times are nearer.

    A look at what the public says Trump should do.


    When asked whether Trump should lean toward Israel toward Israel or Palestine or Neither

    http://worldpublicopinion.net/palestine-and-israel-in-the-shadow-of-the-election-what-do-americans-want-obama-and-trump-to-do/

    Favor Israel

    Repubs – 56%
    Dems – 17%
    Independents – 29%

    Favor Neither Israel or Palestine

    Repubs – 42%
    Dems -69%
    Independents- 66%

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    Have you seen any data about Trump voters who are dissatisfied with his performance? Is anyone even asking that?

    Even if someone says, "I'm a Trump supporter, but I don't like what he's doing about X," all you get is huge defensive BS, accused that you like Hillary, other crap, etc.
    I'm not talking about Repub. "never Trumpers," but those who think he's making some mistakes.
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  152. Incitatus says:
    @Tyrion 2

    In other words, Trump should use snipers and live fire on illegal immigrants crossing borders? Wow
     
    Reality is such that if you have something really good and you are not willing to defend it with lethal force, after a moderate and sensible course of escalation - naturally, then you will not have that good thing very long.

    You can work from that undeniable fact as you will.

    “Reality is such that if you have something really good and you are not willing to defend it with lethal force, after a moderate and sensible course of escalation”

    Thanks for the lecture on “reality”. What a treat! Did we miss the “moderate and sensible” non-lethal means of restraint that ‘escalated’ to “lethal force”? Please enumerate them. Chronologically.

    With respect, the question is not willingness to defend a “good thing” with lethal force. Was the survival of Israel (which I support) ever in doubt? Is the survival of the US in doubt?

    The question is do you have a “good thing” when minorities are murdered and their murderers gloat and run free? Equally, it’s whether technology and relaxed morals (i.e. relativity, rationalization, laziness) licenses hubris.

    Still waiting:
    • How many F-35s is the US giving Iraq, Syria, Iran?
    • Why should Likud conduct be excused by comparing it to those Israel routinely condemns?
    • Does “sniping” mean shooting/killing/maiming unarmed people from a safe distance?
    • Is “sniping” “more humane” than water-cannon, tear gas, and other non-lethal restraint?
    • American media is disproportionately silent in criticism of Likud compared with Israeli media. Why?

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    What a treat! Did we miss the “moderate and sensible” non-lethal means of restraint that ‘escalated’ to “lethal force”? Please enumerate them. Chronologically.
     
    I haven't seen a good account of what happened in the day either, but I assume the IDF followed the escalation drills which every modern army learns.

    With respect, the question is not willingness to defend a “good thing” with lethal force. Was the survival of Israel (which I support) ever in doubt? Is the survival of the US in doubt?
     
    Yes. Either you have a border you can enfore or you don't. Either you have a nation or you don't.

    Of course now you will say "but America still exists" but that is to fetishise the name at the expense of its actual meaning. What America was no longer exists and that is mostly because it was given away at the Southern border.


    The question is do you have a “good thing” when minorities are murdered and their murderers gloat and run free?
     
    People are shot for property crimes all over the world all of the time. Very rarely is it considered murder. Why is this different?

    Still waiting:
     
    I ignored what was irrelevant to try to keep this on subject, honest and simple. But whatever...

    • How many F-35s is the US giving Iraq, Syria, Iran?
     
    Superpowers give regional powers weapons they have the technical ability to sustain and when they have the military ability to be useful to the superpower. None of those three countries fit both.

    • Why should Likud conduct be excused by comparing it to those Israel routinely condemns?
     
    I never said it should.

    • Does “sniping” mean shooting/killing/maiming unarmed people from a safe distance?
     
    All shooting is best done from a safe distance. That doesn't mean other things should be left undefended though.

    • Is “sniping” “more humane” than water-cannon, tear gas, and other non-lethal restraint?
     
    It is an escalation for when those haven't worked or there's a reasonable assumption that they won't. The former is likely the case here.

    • American media is disproportionately silent in criticism of Likud compared with Israeli media. Why
     
    Why does the Israeli media report more on Israel than the American media reports on Israel?

    Need I actually answer that?

    (To anyone else I missed...apologies, I'm sure your words were very kind but England won on penalties last night so I had better things to think about.)

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  153. AndrewR says:
    @KenH
    And you're a troll who speaks out of both sides of your mouth. Your response is equally reflexive and thoughtless and adds absolutely nothing to the subject.

    You don’t have to support “affirmatively furthering fair housing” to admit that where you’re raised has a significant effect on your life outcomes.
     
    Life isn't equal and life isn't fair. Get over it. Most blacks and Latinos are in the situation they're in because of lower IQ, poor work ethic and predisposition to crime and yet they still live better here in the USA than in their own nations. Ocasio-Cortez just wants to punish the successful and reward the chronic layabouts and malcontents.

    You're obviously a knee jerk environmental determinist.

    Lol seek cognitive therapy for your borderline personality disorder

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  154. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Youtube Censorship at it again.

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    Would you care to summarise his boring ramble for us.
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  155. renfro says:
    @KenH
    And you're a troll who speaks out of both sides of your mouth. Your response is equally reflexive and thoughtless and adds absolutely nothing to the subject.

    You don’t have to support “affirmatively furthering fair housing” to admit that where you’re raised has a significant effect on your life outcomes.
     
    Life isn't equal and life isn't fair. Get over it. Most blacks and Latinos are in the situation they're in because of lower IQ, poor work ethic and predisposition to crime and yet they still live better here in the USA than in their own nations. Ocasio-Cortez just wants to punish the successful and reward the chronic layabouts and malcontents.

    You're obviously a knee jerk environmental determinist.

    Get over it. Most blacks and Latinos are in the situation they’re in because of lower IQ, poor work ethic and predisposition to crime and yet they still live better here in the USA than in their own nations

    While I don’t dispute differences between groups and allow for sub group differences…..
    You need to accept the fact that everyone is ‘an accident of birth’…including you.
    A few missteps your ancestral history…a natural dsaster, a migration, a marriage, a war and you too could have been born a hispanic black Russian …lol

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    Well I was born white so I'm going to take my own side like every other group does.

    Europe has suffered through the fall of the Roman empire, the Hunnish and Islamic invasions, the bubonic plague, terrible wars that ravaged the continent (thirty years war, WWI, WWII) yet it still gave birth to and sustained the most advanced civilization in world history and is home to many of the best nations to live in around the globe.

    Africa blames their deplorable status on European colonialism when in fact those were the best of times for African nations.
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  156. MacNucc11 says:
    @KenH
    And you're a troll who speaks out of both sides of your mouth. Your response is equally reflexive and thoughtless and adds absolutely nothing to the subject.

    You don’t have to support “affirmatively furthering fair housing” to admit that where you’re raised has a significant effect on your life outcomes.
     
    Life isn't equal and life isn't fair. Get over it. Most blacks and Latinos are in the situation they're in because of lower IQ, poor work ethic and predisposition to crime and yet they still live better here in the USA than in their own nations. Ocasio-Cortez just wants to punish the successful and reward the chronic layabouts and malcontents.

    You're obviously a knee jerk environmental determinist.

    I would not call the latinos lazy. They are pretty darn industrious people. I think most of them want to make an honest living and I see them working all kinds of jobs in my city in upstate New York and they are never sullen or disrespectful. Most of them decent and fun to be around. Good people who love their families and are religious. Sure there is a criminal element which cannot be denied. It occurs to me that organized crime has been a stepping stone to more legitimate careers for many groups new to the U.S. Irish, Italian, Jew all figured prominently in crime at one time. Even though most Asian are hard working there is a well documented criminal element. Latino covers a lot of territory as well. Colombia, Uruguay, Argentina, Panama and Chile are Hispanic countries I have considered expatriating to. My niece lives in Costa Rica and has married a Costa Rican. Mexico was nice when I visited many years ago but I hear it has gotten much worse since. This Ocasio- Cortez woman made some good comments regarding the plight of the Palestinians but likely it was political expedience. I doubt I or many latinos for that matter have much use for her. She is certainly naïve at best in a support of BLM since there is no united front among blacks and Hispanics. The political creatures that populate the dems (see Soros) push this fantasy which is why Trump did better with both groups than prior republican candidates.

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    There are Latinos that work hard but they also have the highest welfare dependency rates in America. That's not racism that's just a fact. And even though some do work hard it's usually at menial, but very honest jobs that don't have the pay scale to afford a middle class living. But even at that they're still living far better here than in Mexico or Puerto Rico and many more wish to come which is why we need that big beautiful wall and legal impediments to more of them coming.

    Their ability to move up the ladder into more financially rewarding jobs is limited by their IQ and willingness to attain the requisite education levels, not racism and discrimination or the Jewish invented bogeyman of white privilege. But people like Ocasio-Cortez, and before her, Obama, are telling them that even though they only cook fries at BK or McDonald's, mow lawns or install carpet that they are nevertheless entitled to a house in a middle or upper class neighborhood or even the Hampton's and Beverly Hills.

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  157. Rogue says:
    @Kolo
    You seem obsessed with women
    Not getting enough?

    Ooh, you are horrid …

    Making a simple comment responding to some guy saying bollox about how Jews are all ugly and crap at sport, and you interpret this as I’m not getting enough action?

    Dude, you’re pathetic.

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  158. Rogue says:
    @renfro
    If people want to use polls I suggest they use the gold standard WPOP fielded by the Unv of Maryland instead of polls like Pew which are funded by the Pew Charitable Trust , which is basically a 'Think Tank" that then presents its polls to congress trying to affect political decisions on issues. People need to be wary of what is an 'opinion maker' instead of just an opinion taker.

    Here is a more detailed accurate picture.....bear in mind also that evans are only 10% of the population and other factors like party affiliation affect their views. One also has to wonder "IF" the evans as well as the other public were exposed to the real story on Israel and not the slanted version of the US med how that would affect the numbers.

    http://worldpublicopinion.net/what-americans-especially-evangelicals-think-about-israel-and-the-middle-east/

    What Americans (especially Evangelicals) think about Israel and the Middle East
    Evangicals, International Action, Israel, Middle East / North Africa, Views on Countries/Regions December 4, 2015,

    A new poll shows that in dealing with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict overall, an overwhelming 77% of Evangelical Republicans want the United States to lean toward Israel as compared to 29% to Americans overall and 36% of non-Evangelical Republicans.

    In contrast 66% of all Americans and 60% of Non-Evangelical Republicans want the United States to lean toward neither side.

    This pattern holds on other aspects of US policy toward the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. If the UN Security Council considers endorsing the establishment of a Palestinian state, only 26% of all Americans and 38% of non-Evangelical Republicans favor the US voting against it. However six in ten Evangelical Republicans say that the US should vote against it, thus vetoing the move.

    Evangelical Republicans also differ in that they pay far more attention to a candidate’s position on Israel. When considering which candidate to vote for in Congress or for president just 26% of all Americans and 33% of non-Evangelical Republicans say they consider the candidates position on Israel a lot. Among Evangelical Republicans 64% say they consider it a lot.
    Views of Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also vary dramatically. Among the general public just 32 percent have a favorable view of Netanyahu, as do 47 percent of non-Evangelical Republicans. Favorable views rise to 66% among Evangelicals.
    When asked, in an open-ended question, to name a national leader they most admire 22 percent of Republican Evangelicals chose Netanyahu, far more than any other leader.
    Among Non-Evangelical Republicans 9 percent named Netanyahu and 6 percent for the public as a whole.
    Evangelical Republicans represent 23% of all Republicans and 10% of the general population.
    “There are of course partisan differences on Middle East policy in American public attitudes, but what’s most striking is that much of the differences between Republicans and the national total disappears once one sets aside Evangelical Republicans, who constitute 10% of all Americans” said Shibley Telhami, the poll’s principal investigator. “The Israel issue in American politics is seen to have become principally a Republican issue, but in fact, our results show, it’s principally the issue of Evangelical Republicans.”

    One possible explanation for Evangelical Republicans’ attitudes is their religious views. Sixty-six percent of Evangelical Republicans say that for the rapture or Second Coming to occur it is essential for current-day Israel to include all the land they believe was promised to Biblical Israel in the Old Testament, with 35% holding this view strongly.
    The poll was sponsored by the Sadat Chair at the University of Maryland, and conducted in cooperation with the University’s Program for Public Consultation, and released at the Brookings Institution. It was fielded by Nielsen Scarborough November 4-11, 2015, among a nationally representative sample of online panelists of 875, plus an oversample of Evangelicals/Born-Again Christians of 863. The margin of error is 3-4%.
    Other Select Findings:
    Overall, twice as many Americans say the Israeli government has too much influence (37%) than say too little influence (18%), while a plurality (44%) say it’s the right level. Among Democrats, about half (49%) say Israel has too much influence, compared with 14% who say Israel has too little influence, and 36% who say it’s the right level; Among Republicans, slightly more people say that Israel has too much influence (25%) than say it has too little influence (22%) with a slight majority (52%) saying it’s the right level. The percentage of people who think that Israel has too little influence increases with age: 8% of 18-24 year olds feel this way in contrast to 17% of 25-44 year olds, 20% of 45-64 year olds, and 22% of those who are 65 years of age and older.
    Given five options to explain the escalation of Israeli-Palestinian violence the largest number–31%–attributes it to the absence of serious peace diplomacy, while 26% blame continued Israeli occupation and settlement expansion in the West Bank, and the same number blame Palestinian extremists. Only 6% each blame Israeli extremists and Palestinian authority ineffectiveness
    Concerns about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are driven more by considerations related to human right and international law than US interests. Offered five options to explain their concern, the largest number — 47%– say human rights or international law, while 32% say America’s interest. Thirteen percent say cite religious beliefs, while 8% express concern for Israel’s interests.

    Overall, 37% of Americans (and 49% of Democrats) recommend punitive measures against Israel over its settlement policy (27% recommend economic sanctions, and 10% recommend taking more serious action); 31% recommend that the U.S. limits its opposition to words, 27% recommend that the U.S. do nothing.
    American views of Muslims are strikingly partisan. While 67% of Democrats express favorable views of Muslims, only 41% of Republicans do.
    73% of Evangelicals say that world events will turn against Israel the closer we get to the rapture or end and 78% say that the unfolding violence across the Middle East is a sign that the end times are nearer.

    I have to admit I wince at the statistics regarding the Evangelicals views of the so-called chosen.

    Being, loosely, an Evangelical myself, I believe that the Jews are utterly not the chosen people. Any reasonable reading of the New Testament should convince any neutral reader that the chosen are followers of Christ, regardless of race or culture.

    Christian Zionism is not the way forward, though many Christian Zionists are well-intentioned.

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    Christian Zionism is not the way forward, though many Christian Zionists are well-intentioned.

    Haha haha
    You are dumb
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  159. anarchyst says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    Writing apparently as a patriotic & principled American military veteran, RVBlake said:
    "I do not recall seeing any U.S. followup to the (Vincennes) atrocity."

    Hi RVBlake,

    Above, neither do I!

    Nonetheless, a sincere thanks for your "higher" service to our very sick society & your having honorably called the U.S. Navy's attack upon the defenseless Iranian passenger airplane what it really was -- an "atrocity."

    Around the year 2006, I do recall a dreaded sense of shame when faux "war hero," Senator John McCain, modified the popular Beach Boys song lyric to "Barbara Ann," and to the delight of his Zio indoctrinated political supporters (at a rally), he fiendishly intoned, "Bomb, bomb Iran!"

    Fyi, RVBlake, a few months ago, author & U.S. military veteran, Philip Giraldi, wrote a great U.R. article about our "Zionized military."

    On Independence Day Eve, you will ever more so appreciate P.G.'s higher service to our country. Thanks again!

    John McCain was a traitor and collaborator, while being held captive. He was given preferential treatment, due to the fact that his captors felt he was ‘royalty’, due to his family ‘connections’.
    His “shoot down” was self-induced, as he DISOBEYED ORDERS and flew well below the ‘floor’, getting himself shot down. There were several other jets on that particular mission and HE was the only one shot down, because the others obeyed their orders!
    His ENTIRE life has been one of disrespect of orders and authority, believing himself bullet-proof, due to his ‘family name’ and his dad and grand dad being HIGH ranking Navy Admirals!
    His ‘nickname’ in his HS yearbook was “Punk” and he displayed that behavior as he went on to the USNA, where he robbed someone, more deserving, of a slot in his class, due to the ‘influence’ of his father.
    He SHOULD have been expelled, several times, but the folks at USNA did not want to go up against dad. He graduated FIFTH FROM THE BOTTOM in his class . . but STILL ended up going to Pensacola for flight training!! His classmates who actually ‘made the grade’ were aghast when he showed up down there.
    His flight grades were well below acceptable and he should have been run out of there too . . he was an ABYSMAL aviator . . crashing on base leg at Corpus for carrier qualification training. . he had been out drinking the night before and FELL ASLEEP after turning base leg and ‘configuring’ for landing . . he crashed ‘wings level’ and straight ahead into Corpus Bay.
    He destroyed two other A/C after arriving in the Fleet . . before being shot down.
    His nickname in Hanoi was “Songbird”. . due to the information he willingly gave his captors. . tactical stuff. .like ‘routes, altitudes’, etc., that our guys used to fly from the boat to their targets and he got several aviators shot down and killed. He recorded 32+ propaganda bits (a la Tokyo Rose) to be played for our enlisted troops . . to undermine their moral.
    The bogus ‘story’ about not coming home early, when he could have, is just common sense. He KNEW he would have been ‘court-martialed’ IF he had accepted any kind of early release, based upon his ‘family connections’.
    After his release, his Navy ‘flying career’ SHOULD have been over, based upon his permanent injuries, but, his dad intimidated a flight surgeon and he wrongly got back his flight medical status, when ANYONE else would NOT have ‘passed’ with his ‘condition’. He was ‘awarded’ the position of XO at the Navy’s largest training squadron, VA-174 at NAS Cecil and when the CO moved on, he was ‘selected’, over MANY more qualified officers, to become CO. .he used his position as XO and CO to take young (junior) female pilots on X-Country flights and screwed their brains out.
    THAT is ILLEGAL in the military and he SHOULD have been convicted at Court Martial for ‘fraternization’ . .INSTEAD . .daddy got him moved out of the squadron and put in charge of the Navy’s “Liaison” in DC . . along with a VERY early promotion to Captain . . the rest, as they say, is history.
    John McCain is a scum bag . . a DISGRACE to the uniform he wore and his spots did not change when he became a politician!
    As an aside, John McCain’s admiral “daddy” was instrumental in the cover-up of the deliberate Israeli attack on the USS Liberty (GTR-5) in 1967. Maybe “the apple didn’t fall far from the tree”.

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  160. MacNucc11 says:
    @Robjil
    They did this bombing and killing of surrendering Iraqis - 150000- on Purim day in 1991. It was part of the plan. 2003 US attack on Iraq started on Purim. 2011 US attack on Libya started on Purim. Even Dresden 1945 bombing started on Purim. Ziocrazies have been ruling the west for a very long time.

    Wow, is this accurate? Can you provide the dates? When is Purim day annually? What is Purim day? I know I have heard of it and it has something to do with revenge and the Talmud but other than that I am pretty ignorant. Is it the same day every year?

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    Yes, it is accurate. Here are some more details about it.

    Purim is celebrated on the 13/14 day of Adar. There is also a special Purim on the 15th of Adar for walled cities like Jerusalem. The Jewish calendar is lunar. So it changes every year on our calendar. It is usually sometime in March in our calendar.


    The Purim story is this. The Old Testament "Book of Esther" is the favorite of the Jews. In Persia, Queen Esther, a Jewess, turns King Ahasueros against Haman who is arrested. Haman is said to be an enemy of the Jews and is therefore hanged along with his 10 sons. Also, 70,000 of Haman's followers are rounded up and killed. The Jews celebrate this mass slaughter each year during their feast of Purim.

    Five hundred before this, the Amaleks, a tribe of people, attacked the Israelites. Yahweh told the Israelites to massacre every Amalek -man,women,child and also the livestock. Agag, an Amalek, survived. Saul allowed him to live. Five hundred years later, Agag’s descendant was Haman. Deborah Lipstadt called David Irving Agag, an enemy of the modern day “Israelites”. People who are “enemies” of the Israelites are called Amaleks or Agag.

    Some Purim “timings”


    1953 Stalin “dies” - poisoned or induced stroke - March 1 1953 – Purim


    1991 Purim - 100 hour war on the Highway Feb 24- 27– mass killing by bombs of surrendering Iraqi soldiers from the air by the US air force. Purim Feb. 27/28

    1994 – Baruch Goldstein shoots up Palestinians in mosque. He kills 29 and wounds 125. March 25 – Purim

    2003 Purim – Bush says "we will decide" the day of our reckoning when "we" attack Iraq. Wonder of wonders the eve of Purim was “chosen”. March 17 Saddam warned. March 18 bombing began over Iraq. Purim March 17/18 that year.

    2011 Purim Libya attacked. March 19 “enforcement” of the “no fly zone” by NATO begins. Purim March 19/20.

    Dresden happened on the first day/moon of Adar in 1945.

    Also Julius Streicher and ten National Socialists leader were hung on Oct 16 1946. It was a Jewish holiday too - Hoshana Rabba. This is the day that the God seals verdicts for Rosh Hashana for the coming year. All other National Socialists were shot. Ten to be hung is related to the Purim story. Julius Streicher before he was hung yelled "Purim fest 1946". He knew the game.

    https://www.jta.org/2003/03/18/life-religion/features/rabbis-purim-iraq-war-linked

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  161. @Authenticjazzman
    "JAG" Vet" : JAG meaning you were most likely an army attorney, attorneys being the most underhanded, deceptive, dishonest, dispicable criminal-minded scoundrels of any society.

    Authenticjazz "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    For someone who is purportedly “Mensa” qualified since 1973, you’re not too bright, are you now, Skippy? For your edification, the acronym “USAF” stands for United States Air Force. I would think that someone possessing an exceptional IQ such as yourself would know that, especially if that someone purportedly served in the United States Army. By the way, in case you didn’t know, the acronym “IQ” stands for intelligence quotient. Now be a good little boy and go upstairs and eat your din-din. Your mommy is calling you.

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    Well you got me this time as I most certainly did misread your title, however JAG in army jargon denotes "Judge advocate corp", and this led me to assume that you had indeed been one of those army attorney types.

    Attorneys the folks who have brought more injustice and strife to mankind than perhaps any other professional grouping.

    So okay I will now send my gold-embossed "Mensa" certificate back to them with the explanation that some internet barrister has informed me that Mensa was wrong in awarding to my double-digit IQ self said qualification.

    AJM
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  162. @renfro

    Without doing the research which a lawyer being paid for his opinion would put into it I nonetheless formed a confident view that the argument had no legs.
     
    '''......Without doing the research'.......well that is evident in your claim.

    Would suggest you read upon the Fulbright Senate Hearings on the ZOA-1963.....a hearing on fifth column ZOA propaganda infiltration of US media and press.

    But don't think you will...anytime someone says I didnt do the research but"...what they mean is the old ignoramus stand by of....'don't confuse me with the facts my mind's made up.'

    I find it a little disheartening when someone who occasionally provides interesting info on UR shows himself capable of missing the point completely without while being confident he hasn’t. The Fulbright hearings might show someone adverting to my point but are not where I would do my research to back up what a reasonable non expert knowledge of US law tells me. The point is that rich Americans can set up an institution to intone consistent amens to diplomatic approaches to America by any tinpot country they like and to lobby politicians like any other legal American organisation. Can they not?

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    Yes I did miss your point that the Lobby is 'legal, sorry.

    However it is legal only by the grace of jewish influence in congress which has killed the half dozen attempts to make it register under FARA.

    AIPAC is given an exception by the politicians because its members happen to have US citizenship.

    BUT the reality is it lobbies strictly for Israel's interest.

    Both the CIA and the FBI have come close to nailing AIPAC numerous times for stealing classified documents and passing them to Israel....but have been called off by politicians.

    So despite its congressionally sanctioned legality it is a foreign lobby advocating for foreign interest.
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  163. FKA Max says: • Website
    @renfro
    If people want to use polls I suggest they use the gold standard WPOP fielded by the Unv of Maryland instead of polls like Pew which are funded by the Pew Charitable Trust , which is basically a 'Think Tank" that then presents its polls to congress trying to affect political decisions on issues. People need to be wary of what is an 'opinion maker' instead of just an opinion taker.

    Here is a more detailed accurate picture.....bear in mind also that evans are only 10% of the population and other factors like party affiliation affect their views. One also has to wonder "IF" the evans as well as the other public were exposed to the real story on Israel and not the slanted version of the US med how that would affect the numbers.

    http://worldpublicopinion.net/what-americans-especially-evangelicals-think-about-israel-and-the-middle-east/

    What Americans (especially Evangelicals) think about Israel and the Middle East
    Evangicals, International Action, Israel, Middle East / North Africa, Views on Countries/Regions December 4, 2015,

    A new poll shows that in dealing with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict overall, an overwhelming 77% of Evangelical Republicans want the United States to lean toward Israel as compared to 29% to Americans overall and 36% of non-Evangelical Republicans.

    In contrast 66% of all Americans and 60% of Non-Evangelical Republicans want the United States to lean toward neither side.

    This pattern holds on other aspects of US policy toward the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. If the UN Security Council considers endorsing the establishment of a Palestinian state, only 26% of all Americans and 38% of non-Evangelical Republicans favor the US voting against it. However six in ten Evangelical Republicans say that the US should vote against it, thus vetoing the move.

    Evangelical Republicans also differ in that they pay far more attention to a candidate’s position on Israel. When considering which candidate to vote for in Congress or for president just 26% of all Americans and 33% of non-Evangelical Republicans say they consider the candidates position on Israel a lot. Among Evangelical Republicans 64% say they consider it a lot.
    Views of Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also vary dramatically. Among the general public just 32 percent have a favorable view of Netanyahu, as do 47 percent of non-Evangelical Republicans. Favorable views rise to 66% among Evangelicals.
    When asked, in an open-ended question, to name a national leader they most admire 22 percent of Republican Evangelicals chose Netanyahu, far more than any other leader.
    Among Non-Evangelical Republicans 9 percent named Netanyahu and 6 percent for the public as a whole.
    Evangelical Republicans represent 23% of all Republicans and 10% of the general population.
    “There are of course partisan differences on Middle East policy in American public attitudes, but what’s most striking is that much of the differences between Republicans and the national total disappears once one sets aside Evangelical Republicans, who constitute 10% of all Americans” said Shibley Telhami, the poll’s principal investigator. “The Israel issue in American politics is seen to have become principally a Republican issue, but in fact, our results show, it’s principally the issue of Evangelical Republicans.”

    One possible explanation for Evangelical Republicans’ attitudes is their religious views. Sixty-six percent of Evangelical Republicans say that for the rapture or Second Coming to occur it is essential for current-day Israel to include all the land they believe was promised to Biblical Israel in the Old Testament, with 35% holding this view strongly.
    The poll was sponsored by the Sadat Chair at the University of Maryland, and conducted in cooperation with the University’s Program for Public Consultation, and released at the Brookings Institution. It was fielded by Nielsen Scarborough November 4-11, 2015, among a nationally representative sample of online panelists of 875, plus an oversample of Evangelicals/Born-Again Christians of 863. The margin of error is 3-4%.
    Other Select Findings:
    Overall, twice as many Americans say the Israeli government has too much influence (37%) than say too little influence (18%), while a plurality (44%) say it’s the right level. Among Democrats, about half (49%) say Israel has too much influence, compared with 14% who say Israel has too little influence, and 36% who say it’s the right level; Among Republicans, slightly more people say that Israel has too much influence (25%) than say it has too little influence (22%) with a slight majority (52%) saying it’s the right level. The percentage of people who think that Israel has too little influence increases with age: 8% of 18-24 year olds feel this way in contrast to 17% of 25-44 year olds, 20% of 45-64 year olds, and 22% of those who are 65 years of age and older.
    Given five options to explain the escalation of Israeli-Palestinian violence the largest number–31%–attributes it to the absence of serious peace diplomacy, while 26% blame continued Israeli occupation and settlement expansion in the West Bank, and the same number blame Palestinian extremists. Only 6% each blame Israeli extremists and Palestinian authority ineffectiveness
    Concerns about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are driven more by considerations related to human right and international law than US interests. Offered five options to explain their concern, the largest number — 47%– say human rights or international law, while 32% say America’s interest. Thirteen percent say cite religious beliefs, while 8% express concern for Israel’s interests.

    Overall, 37% of Americans (and 49% of Democrats) recommend punitive measures against Israel over its settlement policy (27% recommend economic sanctions, and 10% recommend taking more serious action); 31% recommend that the U.S. limits its opposition to words, 27% recommend that the U.S. do nothing.
    American views of Muslims are strikingly partisan. While 67% of Democrats express favorable views of Muslims, only 41% of Republicans do.
    73% of Evangelicals say that world events will turn against Israel the closer we get to the rapture or end and 78% say that the unfolding violence across the Middle East is a sign that the end times are nearer.

    Thank you very much for this comprehensive, high-quality opinion poll information/data, renfro!

    People need to be wary of what is an ‘opinion maker’ instead of just an opinion taker.

    Very good and important point!

    Thanks again!

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    Thank you for your thank..lol
    When I can supply anyone with more details and data on a subject ...and have it acknowledged....it makes the effort worth it.
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  164. KenH says:
    @renfro

    Get over it. Most blacks and Latinos are in the situation they’re in because of lower IQ, poor work ethic and predisposition to crime and yet they still live better here in the USA than in their own nations
     
    While I don't dispute differences between groups and allow for sub group differences.....
    You need to accept the fact that everyone is 'an accident of birth'...including you.
    A few missteps your ancestral history...a natural dsaster, a migration, a marriage, a war and you too could have been born a hispanic black Russian ...lol

    Well I was born white so I’m going to take my own side like every other group does.

    Europe has suffered through the fall of the Roman empire, the Hunnish and Islamic invasions, the bubonic plague, terrible wars that ravaged the continent (thirty years war, WWI, WWII) yet it still gave birth to and sustained the most advanced civilization in world history and is home to many of the best nations to live in around the globe.

    Africa blames their deplorable status on European colonialism when in fact those were the best of times for African nations.

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  165. ohmy says:

    All over the world Jews are promoting hate speech laws while spitting hateful venom towards Arabs, Goyim and, even Jesus Christ. Their actions, so well illustrated above by Giraldi’s lead in photo, prove “they” don’t give 2 shits for any other culture. And to all you idiots, who bend to their pressures while kissing their asses, understand this. If this so called “race” gets their way, and hear me now, I’m speaking of a 1 world government, you will experience the true meaning of persecution, and witness first hand the true nature of the Jews. We are getting a small taste of it now with our growing police state and vanishing freedoms. One only need’s to look at the conditions the Palestinians suffer in Gaza to see what’s in store for all of us. Don’t take my word for it, just read their history. The truth is out there. It’s just beneath the surface.
    Maybe I’m wrong, but this Ocasio girl, she will fold like a cheap suit if elected. She’s not what she says she is. She’s not a Jew, but she will dance to the fiddler on her roof top.

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    Monika Schaefer

    Ursula Haverbeck

    The above are two grandmothers who are currently incarcerated in maximum-security German prisons for “thoughtcrimes”–questioning the holocaust™.

    Where is the outrage??
    , @Druid
    So true and I cannot understand why people don't see it, especially the evangelicals. They've convinced themselves they're going to heaven soon if only the support this Zio-trash, as is irresponsibly pushed by their faux religious leaders. And the Zios are laughing all the way to the bank, so to speak!
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  166. geokat62 says:
    @Greg Bacon
    It will be interesting to see if Ocasio-Cortez-if elected--sticks to her principles or succumbs to the shekel storm headed her way.

    Radical Jews of the Hasidic type are also acting thuggish on American streets, like in Brooklyn where they committed assault, battery and kidnapping on a bicyclist.

    These kind of fanatics are growing in numbers all over the USA.
    https://youtu.be/FEKhgBye5K0

    If you think Trump is spineless towards Israel, wait until Israel's next choice for POTUS, Nutty Nikky Haley steals the WH.

    If you think Trump is spineless towards Israel, wait until Israel’s next choice for POTUS, Nutty Nikky Haley steals the WH.

    Bill Kristol is already drooling:

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    Either Kristol is mad, at least if he thinks Haley could be elected president, or America will have gone collectively mad beyond redemption if it elects her.

    Afterthought, what splitting of the vote could possibly do it? The split would probably be on the right so no help to Haley.
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  167. KenH says:
    @MacNucc11
    I would not call the latinos lazy. They are pretty darn industrious people. I think most of them want to make an honest living and I see them working all kinds of jobs in my city in upstate New York and they are never sullen or disrespectful. Most of them decent and fun to be around. Good people who love their families and are religious. Sure there is a criminal element which cannot be denied. It occurs to me that organized crime has been a stepping stone to more legitimate careers for many groups new to the U.S. Irish, Italian, Jew all figured prominently in crime at one time. Even though most Asian are hard working there is a well documented criminal element. Latino covers a lot of territory as well. Colombia, Uruguay, Argentina, Panama and Chile are Hispanic countries I have considered expatriating to. My niece lives in Costa Rica and has married a Costa Rican. Mexico was nice when I visited many years ago but I hear it has gotten much worse since. This Ocasio- Cortez woman made some good comments regarding the plight of the Palestinians but likely it was political expedience. I doubt I or many latinos for that matter have much use for her. She is certainly naïve at best in a support of BLM since there is no united front among blacks and Hispanics. The political creatures that populate the dems (see Soros) push this fantasy which is why Trump did better with both groups than prior republican candidates.

    There are Latinos that work hard but they also have the highest welfare dependency rates in America. That’s not racism that’s just a fact. And even though some do work hard it’s usually at menial, but very honest jobs that don’t have the pay scale to afford a middle class living. But even at that they’re still living far better here than in Mexico or Puerto Rico and many more wish to come which is why we need that big beautiful wall and legal impediments to more of them coming.

    Their ability to move up the ladder into more financially rewarding jobs is limited by their IQ and willingness to attain the requisite education levels, not racism and discrimination or the Jewish invented bogeyman of white privilege. But people like Ocasio-Cortez, and before her, Obama, are telling them that even though they only cook fries at BK or McDonald’s, mow lawns or install carpet that they are nevertheless entitled to a house in a middle or upper class neighborhood or even the Hampton’s and Beverly Hills.

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  168. @RVBlake
    Thank you. The only reason I ever read The American Conservative years ago was Phil Giraldi. I was astounded when I learned he worked for the CIA. Speaking of atrocities, this may not qualify, but days after the Gulf War, in '91, there was a local luncheon given for the officers stationed at various units in the city, Savannah, GA. I didn't attend, as usual, but the lieutenant with whom I shared an office did, and she informed me of the festivities. After lunch, apparently they set up a projector and began showing live footage of the Highway of Death, the road from Kuwait to Iraq, filled with fleeing, terrified Iraqi soldiers on their way home, with no taste for combat. My colleague told me of the laughter that filled the luncheon room at the sight of the Americans bombing and littering the Highway with the mangled remains of the Iraqis. It was nauseating to hear of this reaction.

    Hi RVBlake,

    I disdain U.S. military officers who would assemble and laugh at live footage from the “Highway of Death.”

    Fyi, I am the only son (child) of the late WWII veteran, P.F.C. Charles Orloski, Sr. Wounded by Japanese mortar fire during Leyte combat, my father spoke proudly about having fought Japs / Nips. Fowler & Williams truck driver, a patriotic Teamster, my Dad was also grateful for Harry Truman’s nuclear bombing of Hiroshima & Nagasaki because it “saved American soldier lives.”

    Fyi, in August 1970, drafted, I entered Basic Training at Fort Polk, La. and also did 11-Bravo A.I T. in North Fort (Polk).

    Incredibly, the antiwar movement was active among “Fresh Meat” inside barracks but every soldier was indoctrinated to hate what Springsteen rather flippantly described (in song) as the “Yellow Man.”

    While marching along toward “Tigerland,” every recruit had to sing, “I wannabe an Airborne Ranger, I wanna live a life of danger, & I wanna kill some Charlie Cong.”
    Except the gung-ho and “Grunts” who desired officer promotion “bars,” most of the guys in my Company just wanted to smoke, fuck, & go home.

    At present, I hate how the George H.W. Bush administration easily managed to make average Americans “get over” their hesitancy about the unnecessary, immoral, & deadly Vietnam War and proceed to dust Islamics Republican Guard in what Patrick Buchanan called a “Turkey Shoot” & where General Schwarzkopf became a heroic conqueror, household name.

    By the time of the infamous W. Bush Zionist presidency, the all volunteer ZUS Army was indoctrinated to hate and want to kill Muslims, a.k.a., those “ragheads” who did 9/11 & have WMD’s.

    Taking target practice at the Koran, shooting & tossing Muzzies into river, raiding Iraqi mosques, and “non-combatant” prisoner torture became S.O.P., rules-of-engagement.

    (Zigh) NFL’s Pat Tillman was going-ho once.

    And poor (& pregnant?) Private Lyndie England? She never got a distinguished service medal for her role at Abu Ghraib & I really wonder what she’ll be doing tomorrow, Fourth of July.

    I’ll try & stop yapping now, RVBlake. Summarized, I support the basic soldier who wants to believe in an honorable America. And not the ZUS War Criminals, Pentagon Chiefs of Staff, & M.I.C. contractors who collectively “drum-up” global work opportunities.

    Fyi, nine total years service, stateside, discharged in 1979, Specialist 4, Pennsylvania Army Reserves National Guard.
    (zzZigh) I did not fight the “Yellow Man, but come Winter 2001, & employed by a Syracuse, NY-based private corporation, I did many bizarre Haz-Mat emergency responses to White Powder (Anthrax) threats in eastern Pennsylvania.

    Some incidents were gut-busting laughers for the Field Technicians and me!

    Thanks for patience, RV.

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  169. David says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I personally would have liked to see Ocasio-Cortez go farther, a lot farther. Israel is a place where conventional morality has been replaced by a theocratically and culturally driven sense of entitlement which has meant that anything goes when it comes to the treatment of inferior Christian and Muslim Arabs
     
    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    The criticism of Israel in Western media is disproportionately extremely high given the much higher rates of this type of thing in the majority of the rest of the world.

    As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn't that seem like the most humane way to deal with it? What does Giraldi suggest they do?

    I suppose Western anti-Semites see Western countries going down because they are unable to deal with this type of thing and get jealous and want to drag Israel down with them. I prefer that America follow the example of Matteo Salvini. Giraldi prefers 'abolish borders' Cortez. Indeed, he'd like her to "go a lot farther".

    “Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country.”
    Nonsense!! Classic hasbara, i.e., “whataboutery.”

    Reality:
    Setting aside Israel’s well docmented gross violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention i.e., “Collective Punishment” regarding its imprisonment of two million Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and its repeated mass slaughters of them by land, sea and air, e.g., 2,500, including over 500 children, in Operation Protective Edge.

    Israel is and always has been a racist ethnocracy, i.e., a political structure in which the state apparatus is appropriated by a dominant ethnic group to further its interests, power and resources. In short, apartheid.

    To wit:
    Hendrik Verwoerd, then prime minister of South Africa and the architect of South Africa’s apartheid policies, 1961: “Israel, like South Africa, is an apartheid state.” (Rand Daily Mail, November 23, 1961)

    Jacobus Johannes Fouché, South African Minister of Defence during the apartheid era, compared the two states and said that Israel also practiced apartheid. (Gideon Shimoni (1980). Jews and Zionism: The South African Experience 1910-1967. Cape Town: Oxford UP. pp. 310–336. ISBN 0195701798.

    “Former Foreign Ministry director-general invokes South Africa comparisons. ‘Joint Israel-West Bank’ reality is an apartheid state”
    EXCERPT: “Similarities between the ‘original apartheid’ as it was practiced in South Africa and the situation in ISRAEL [my emphasis] and the West Bank today ‘scream to the heavens,’ added [Alon] Liel, who was Israel’s ambassador in Pretoria from 1992 to 1994. There can be little doubt that the suffering of Palestinians is not less intense than that of blacks during apartheid-era South Africa, he asserted.” (Times of Israel, February 21, 2013)

    Video: Israeli TV Host Implores Israelis: Wake Up and Smell the Apartheid

    https://www.youtube.com/wat…

    In its 2015 Country Report on Human Rights Practices for Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories, published in 2016, the U.S. Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor acknowledges the “institutional and societal discrimination against Arab citizens of Israel.”

    Ronnie Kasrils, a key player in the struggle against the former South African apartheid regime, minister for intelligence and a devout Jew: “The Palestinian minority in Israel has for decades been denied basic equality in health, education, housing and land possession, solely because it is not Jewish. The fact that this minority is allowed to vote hardly redresses the rampant injustice in all other basic human rights. They are excluded from the very definition of the ‘Jewish state’, and have virtually no influence on the laws, or political, social and economic policies. Hence, their similarity to the black South Africans [under apartheid].” (The Guardian, 25 May 2005)

    Shlomo Gazit, retired IDF Major General: “[Israel's] legal system that enforces the law in a discriminatory way on the basis of national identity, is actually maintaining an apartheid regime.” (Haaretz, July 19, 2011)

    Israel also differentiates between citizenship and nationality, i.e., “Israeli” nationality does not exist, only Jews and non-Jews, and each citizen carries an appropriate identity card. While the implications of this absurdity for discrimination and racism against non-Jews are obvious, it has been upheld by Israel’s Supreme Court.

    The effect of its blatantly racist “Citizenship Law” and more than fifty other restrictions Arab citizens have to endure is well expressed by writer and Knesset member, Ahmed Tibi: “…dutifully defining the state as ‘Jewish and democratic,’ ignores the fact that in practice ‘democratic’ refers to Jews, and the Arabs are nothing more than citizens without citizenship.” (Ma’ariv, 1.6.2005)

    For the record: Eminent Jewish Israeli journalist, Bradley Burston, aptly sums up the horrors Israel inflicts on Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and occupied East Jerusalem:
    “Occupation is Slavery”
    EXCERPT:
    “In the name of occupation, generation after generation of Palestinians have been treated as property. They can be moved at will, shackled at will, tortured at will, have their families separated at will. They can be denied the right to vote, to own property, to meet or speak to family and friends. They can be hounded or even shot dead by their masters, who claim their position by biblical right, and also use them to build and work on the plantations the toilers cannot themselves ever hope to own. The masters dehumanize them, call them by the names of beasts.” (Haaretz, Feb. 26/13)

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    It is not "whataboutery" to point out that Israel is less "an Apartheid state" than practically every Asian and African country. Not if part of the definition of "Apartheid" is that is an 'especial evil'.
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  170. I wouldn’t be surprised if those bullies bravely intimidating an Arab woman are U.S. college students on a Hillel tour. They have that look.

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  171. bj says:

    If the Judaic’s reach the level of supremacy in the USA, that they have in Palestine, the goyim will be murdered with impunity, as are unarmed Palestinian men, women, and children.

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    AGREE with your opening statement, that if the form of Jewish supremacy on daily display in Palestine reaches the USA, non-Jews in USA are in grave danger.

    DISAGREE strongly with Michael Hoffman's provocative assertions about Talmudist and Rabbinic Phariseeism, and most especially his comparison of Talmudist to Nazism (National Socialism - NS).

    This comment serves as a marker -- it needs more work.
    I've spent four or five hours working on a response to Hoffman's comment at The Saker's Interview of Hoffman, @ #272 https://www.unz.com/tsaker/an-interview-with-michael-a-hoffman-ii/#comment-2398531 and it still needs more research. Hoffman has far greater knowledge of Hebrew scripture than my own, by his perception of NS history and the interrelationship of zionism is deeply, perhaps fatally flawed.

    Later.
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  172. donut says:

    ““No state or entity is absolved of mass shootings of protesters.” BS . I absolve the White man of all his sins .

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  173. Anon[344] • Disclaimer says:

    The picture atop the article reminded me of another: http://tinyurl.com/y87kq5po

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  174. @chris
    Yeah, except that AIPAC isn't resting, it's busy trying to screw all the other animals.

    Still, I can see how you came to post this video, after probably searching in vain for a video showing anything even remotely approaching a humane treatment of Palestinians by Jewish settlers.

    I long ago saved the image at the top of this article of the Israeli bubulas harassing the Palestinian lady. I’ve posted it often on Yahoo with this caption: The gallant zionists show courage confronting this grandmotherly Palestinian “terrorist” brandishing a deadly suicide serving tray!

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  175. Mulegino1 says:

    Two great champions of western culture weigh in:

    Oswald Spengler:

    “…this nihilist mentality has now infected the world outlook of all the white nations, for it is the age which has become vulgar, and few people realise the degree to which they are tainted. The bad manners of all Parliaments, the general tendency to condone shady business if it promises money without work, jazz and negro dances as the spiritual expression of all classes, women who paint themselves like prostitutes, the attempts of writers and dramatists to win popularity by holding up to contempt the correctness of well-bred people, and the bad taste displayed even by royalty and the high aristocracy in discarding social restraints and time-honoured custom—all this goes to prove that today it is the mob which is imposing its standards. . . ”

    “Not only tradition and manners but culture, beauty, grace, taste in dress, confident good manners, self-control, and self-discipline exasperate the vulgar soul till its blood boils. An aristocratic face, the dainty tread of a slim foot on the pavement are contradictions of democracy. . . .”

    “Culture, because of its superiority, is the real enemy. Such are the tendencies of nihilism. Nobody attempts to raise the masses to the level of true culture—that would be too troublesome, and perhaps the conditions of such levelling up are lacking. On the contrary, the structure of society has to be levelled down to the standard of the mob. Universal equality is to reign. Everything is to be equally vulgar.”

    Richard Wagner:

    “What issues from the Jews’ attempts at making Art, must
    necessarily therefore bear the attributes of coldness and indifference, even to triviality and
    absurdity; and in the history of Modern Music we can but class the Judaic period as that
    of final unproductivity, of stability gone to ruin.”

    Neither what is created by the descendants of Africans, or the Jews, however squeaky, shiny, or entertaining, competes with true European Christian culture. The great divide in the legacy nations of Christendom is between those born and nurtured within it – namely the heirs of St. Benedict and Augustine and those of St. Cyril and St. Methodius, i.e., the Germanic and the Romantic peoples and the Slavs and Greeks, i.e. the heirs of Rome and Byzantium.

    The Jews have never really contributed anything spiritually transcendent or truly creative to our culture- they have produced many fine instrumentalists,musicians, and a few architects and even fewer painters, but these have all been derivative at best and degenerative at worst.

    Likewise, the Africans. Their most significant contribution to American music is the “Negro Spiritual”, which is inspired by their familiarity with western Christianity.

    The Jews never produced anything of transcendent cultural

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    I am reminded of Hildegaard von Bingen, as I read your lament of the degradation of our transcendent culture.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS28jyW1bLY

    , @Mulegino1
    The last sentence should have read: "The Jews never produced anything of transcendent cultural value that was not lifted from the traditions of European Christendom or classical antiquity."

    And it is also valid to point out that they do not interact with nature on the same level as their Christian European counterparts; for the latter, nature still retains its sacral and sublime aspect; for Jewry as a whole, nature is a tooth and claw theater of litigation and money making, only worthwhile insofar as it provides targeted, resource rich exploitative opportunities. This mentality reaches the culture as well, which Jewry converts to pop culture, i.e., an anti-cultural money making endeavor relying upon the cheapest and most tawdry and superficial means of expression.
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  176. renfro says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    I find it a little disheartening when someone who occasionally provides interesting info on UR shows himself capable of missing the point completely without while being confident he hasn't. The Fulbright hearings might show someone adverting to my point but are not where I would do my research to back up what a reasonable non expert knowledge of US law tells me. The point is that rich Americans can set up an institution to intone consistent amens to diplomatic approaches to America by any tinpot country they like and to lobby politicians like any other legal American organisation. Can they not?

    Yes I did miss your point that the Lobby is ‘legal, sorry.

    However it is legal only by the grace of jewish influence in congress which has killed the half dozen attempts to make it register under FARA.

    AIPAC is given an exception by the politicians because its members happen to have US citizenship.

    BUT the reality is it lobbies strictly for Israel’s interest.

    Both the CIA and the FBI have come close to nailing AIPAC numerous times for stealing classified documents and passing them to Israel….but have been called off by politicians.

    So despite its congressionally sanctioned legality it is a foreign lobby advocating for foreign interest.

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    Note......there are others but none so far that have the influence to literally write bills for Israel and then give them to its US politicians to pass into policy or law.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Hey, be careful. Saying sorry on UR threads could set a precedent : - )

    I should add that, though I credit myself with some ingenuity I think I would have trouble drafting a US law which actually caught a de facto foreign agent like AIPAC. I imagine it would be superprotected by top tax lawyers using their legal cunning pro bono (I.e. for the good of....). No doubt in a parallel universe Congressmen would be lining up to put their names to a constitutionally ineffective statute that would require AIPAC to register as a foreign agent but that would be the mirror image of the absurd anti BDS legislation. Mind you, what difference would it make if AIPAC did register? I don't know if it would stop it spending money in some ways or advertising without restriction but, if it did, lo and behold see the Phoenix rising: AIPAC Mark 2.
    , @Fidelios Automata
    I think it is reasonable to assume that a lobby that advocates only for the interests of a foreign country IS controlled by that foreign country unless the lobbyists prove otherwise. Just as its reasonable that the guy with the smoking gun in his hand next to a corpse is a prime suspect in the murder.
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  177. renfro says:
    @renfro
    Yes I did miss your point that the Lobby is 'legal, sorry.

    However it is legal only by the grace of jewish influence in congress which has killed the half dozen attempts to make it register under FARA.

    AIPAC is given an exception by the politicians because its members happen to have US citizenship.

    BUT the reality is it lobbies strictly for Israel's interest.

    Both the CIA and the FBI have come close to nailing AIPAC numerous times for stealing classified documents and passing them to Israel....but have been called off by politicians.

    So despite its congressionally sanctioned legality it is a foreign lobby advocating for foreign interest.

    Note……there are others but none so far that have the influence to literally write bills for Israel and then give them to its US politicians to pass into policy or law.

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  178. renfro says:
    @FKA Max
    Thank you very much for this comprehensive, high-quality opinion poll information/data, renfro!

    People need to be wary of what is an ‘opinion maker’ instead of just an opinion taker.
     
    Very good and important point!

    Thanks again!

    Thank you for your thank..lol
    When I can supply anyone with more details and data on a subject …and have it acknowledged….it makes the effort worth it.

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  179. Robjil says:
    @MacNucc11
    Wow, is this accurate? Can you provide the dates? When is Purim day annually? What is Purim day? I know I have heard of it and it has something to do with revenge and the Talmud but other than that I am pretty ignorant. Is it the same day every year?

    Yes, it is accurate. Here are some more details about it.

    Purim is celebrated on the 13/14 day of Adar. There is also a special Purim on the 15th of Adar for walled cities like Jerusalem. The Jewish calendar is lunar. So it changes every year on our calendar. It is usually sometime in March in our calendar.

    The Purim story is this. The Old Testament “Book of Esther” is the favorite of the Jews. In Persia, Queen Esther, a Jewess, turns King Ahasueros against Haman who is arrested. Haman is said to be an enemy of the Jews and is therefore hanged along with his 10 sons. Also, 70,000 of Haman’s followers are rounded up and killed. The Jews celebrate this mass slaughter each year during their feast of Purim.

    Five hundred before this, the Amaleks, a tribe of people, attacked the Israelites. Yahweh told the Israelites to massacre every Amalek -man,women,child and also the livestock. Agag, an Amalek, survived. Saul allowed him to live. Five hundred years later, Agag’s descendant was Haman. Deborah Lipstadt called David Irving Agag, an enemy of the modern day “Israelites”. People who are “enemies” of the Israelites are called Amaleks or Agag.

    Some Purim “timings”

    1953 Stalin “dies” – poisoned or induced stroke – March 1 1953 – Purim

    1991 Purim – 100 hour war on the Highway Feb 24- 27– mass killing by bombs of surrendering Iraqi soldiers from the air by the US air force. Purim Feb. 27/28

    1994 – Baruch Goldstein shoots up Palestinians in mosque. He kills 29 and wounds 125. March 25 – Purim

    2003 Purim – Bush says “we will decide” the day of our reckoning when “we” attack Iraq. Wonder of wonders the eve of Purim was “chosen”. March 17 Saddam warned. March 18 bombing began over Iraq. Purim March 17/18 that year.

    2011 Purim Libya attacked. March 19 “enforcement” of the “no fly zone” by NATO begins. Purim March 19/20.

    Dresden happened on the first day/moon of Adar in 1945.

    Also Julius Streicher and ten National Socialists leader were hung on Oct 16 1946. It was a Jewish holiday too – Hoshana Rabba. This is the day that the God seals verdicts for Rosh Hashana for the coming year. All other National Socialists were shot. Ten to be hung is related to the Purim story. Julius Streicher before he was hung yelled “Purim fest 1946″. He knew the game.

    https://www.jta.org/2003/03/18/life-religion/features/rabbis-purim-iraq-war-linked

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    NATO commenced bombing the Yugoslav Republic on March 24, 1999 and stopped on June 10, 1999, reportedly to halt the ethnic cleansing of Albanians in the province of Kosovo. NATO did this without the approval of the UN, anticipating a veto vote by Russia and China. Would this time period have been on Purim?
    , @MacNucc11
    Wow, that is pretty amazing but then it is tough to say if it is all planned being that the date is very inconsistent from year to year, but that does not make what you are saying untrue. Also very interesting that one of the Germans would say Purim Fest 1946. Crazy stuff but also very disturbing. If true then the situation is truly dire.
    , @MacNucc11
    Or you could also say when you have neo-cons who needs Purim anymore?
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  180. CCR says:

    The only problem with the Israelis is that they have never been brutal enough. If they had driven all the Muslims out of the areas they conquered there would be no “middle-east” problem today. It still isn’t too late for them to get serious about this.

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    They did drive the Palestinians out.
    The mistake was not to commit genocide.
    Jabotinski in 1923 saw it well 'just force will make Palestinians give up their lands'.
    But he did not foresee that they never really would give up.
    What he also did not foresee that the ethnic cleansing would cause a growth of the number of Palestinians.
    As far as I can see Israel has no long time strategy for dealing with the Palestinian problem.
    Trying to convince the great majority of the world's countries in the UN Assembly that they're all wrong, and Israel right, lunacy.
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  181. tac says:

    US and Israel are attempting to use internal pressure within Iran yet again with the intent of sparking enough strife for a regime change:

    Indeed a high level joint US-Israeli “working group” has been meeting for months with just this goal in mind as Axios confirms in a bombshell new report: “Israel and the United States formed a joint working group a few months ago that is focused on internal efforts to encourage protests within Iran and pressure the country’s government.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-03/us-and-israel-form-working-group-overthrow-iran-government

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  182. bj says:
    @Mulegino1
    Two great champions of western culture weigh in:

    Oswald Spengler:

    "...this nihilist mentality has now infected the world outlook of all the white nations, for it is the age which has become vulgar, and few people realise the degree to which they are tainted. The bad manners of all Parliaments, the general tendency to condone shady business if it promises money without work, jazz and negro dances as the spiritual expression of all classes, women who paint themselves like prostitutes, the attempts of writers and dramatists to win popularity by holding up to contempt the correctness of well-bred people, and the bad taste displayed even by royalty and the high aristocracy in discarding social restraints and time-honoured custom—all this goes to prove that today it is the mob which is imposing its standards. . . "

    "Not only tradition and manners but culture, beauty, grace, taste in dress, confident good manners, self-control, and self-discipline exasperate the vulgar soul till its blood boils. An aristocratic face, the dainty tread of a slim foot on the pavement are contradictions of democracy. . . ."

    "Culture, because of its superiority, is the real enemy. Such are the tendencies of nihilism. Nobody attempts to raise the masses to the level of true culture—that would be too troublesome, and perhaps the conditions of such levelling up are lacking. On the contrary, the structure of society has to be levelled down to the standard of the mob. Universal equality is to reign. Everything is to be equally vulgar."

    Richard Wagner:

    "What issues from the Jews' attempts at making Art, must
    necessarily therefore bear the attributes of coldness and indifference, even to triviality and
    absurdity; and in the history of Modern Music we can but class the Judaic period as that
    of final unproductivity, of stability gone to ruin."

    Neither what is created by the descendants of Africans, or the Jews, however squeaky, shiny, or entertaining, competes with true European Christian culture. The great divide in the legacy nations of Christendom is between those born and nurtured within it - namely the heirs of St. Benedict and Augustine and those of St. Cyril and St. Methodius, i.e., the Germanic and the Romantic peoples and the Slavs and Greeks, i.e. the heirs of Rome and Byzantium.

    The Jews have never really contributed anything spiritually transcendent or truly creative to our culture- they have produced many fine instrumentalists,musicians, and a few architects and even fewer painters, but these have all been derivative at best and degenerative at worst.

    Likewise, the Africans. Their most significant contribution to American music is the "Negro Spiritual", which is inspired by their familiarity with western Christianity.

    The Jews never produced anything of transcendent cultural

    I am reminded of Hildegaard von Bingen, as I read your lament of the degradation of our transcendent culture.

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    Absolutely! The Jews (as a collective) are as far from the celestial sphere and as close to the subterranean as the lowest of the aboriginals of the Australian hinterlands- perhaps quite more so, since the aboriginals retain at least a modicum of primitive religiosity, while the Talmudist only the most degenerated and corrupted elements- the absolute counter to authentic spirituality.

    Jewry- as a collective hive devoid of any true spirituality- can no more appreciate a St. Hildegard any more than it can appreciate a St. Thomas, a J.S. Bach, a Fra Angelico or a Tintoretto. Its opposition to nature and to the Logos which authored and governs nature renders it sterile and toxic to culture and society.
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  183. Mulegino1 says:
    @Mulegino1
    Two great champions of western culture weigh in:

    Oswald Spengler:

    "...this nihilist mentality has now infected the world outlook of all the white nations, for it is the age which has become vulgar, and few people realise the degree to which they are tainted. The bad manners of all Parliaments, the general tendency to condone shady business if it promises money without work, jazz and negro dances as the spiritual expression of all classes, women who paint themselves like prostitutes, the attempts of writers and dramatists to win popularity by holding up to contempt the correctness of well-bred people, and the bad taste displayed even by royalty and the high aristocracy in discarding social restraints and time-honoured custom—all this goes to prove that today it is the mob which is imposing its standards. . . "

    "Not only tradition and manners but culture, beauty, grace, taste in dress, confident good manners, self-control, and self-discipline exasperate the vulgar soul till its blood boils. An aristocratic face, the dainty tread of a slim foot on the pavement are contradictions of democracy. . . ."

    "Culture, because of its superiority, is the real enemy. Such are the tendencies of nihilism. Nobody attempts to raise the masses to the level of true culture—that would be too troublesome, and perhaps the conditions of such levelling up are lacking. On the contrary, the structure of society has to be levelled down to the standard of the mob. Universal equality is to reign. Everything is to be equally vulgar."

    Richard Wagner:

    "What issues from the Jews' attempts at making Art, must
    necessarily therefore bear the attributes of coldness and indifference, even to triviality and
    absurdity; and in the history of Modern Music we can but class the Judaic period as that
    of final unproductivity, of stability gone to ruin."

    Neither what is created by the descendants of Africans, or the Jews, however squeaky, shiny, or entertaining, competes with true European Christian culture. The great divide in the legacy nations of Christendom is between those born and nurtured within it - namely the heirs of St. Benedict and Augustine and those of St. Cyril and St. Methodius, i.e., the Germanic and the Romantic peoples and the Slavs and Greeks, i.e. the heirs of Rome and Byzantium.

    The Jews have never really contributed anything spiritually transcendent or truly creative to our culture- they have produced many fine instrumentalists,musicians, and a few architects and even fewer painters, but these have all been derivative at best and degenerative at worst.

    Likewise, the Africans. Their most significant contribution to American music is the "Negro Spiritual", which is inspired by their familiarity with western Christianity.

    The Jews never produced anything of transcendent cultural

    The last sentence should have read: “The Jews never produced anything of transcendent cultural value that was not lifted from the traditions of European Christendom or classical antiquity.”

    And it is also valid to point out that they do not interact with nature on the same level as their Christian European counterparts; for the latter, nature still retains its sacral and sublime aspect; for Jewry as a whole, nature is a tooth and claw theater of litigation and money making, only worthwhile insofar as it provides targeted, resource rich exploitative opportunities. This mentality reaches the culture as well, which Jewry converts to pop culture, i.e., an anti-cultural money making endeavor relying upon the cheapest and most tawdry and superficial means of expression.

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    Star Trek's "The Next Generation" personifies and stereotypes the jew perfectly in their character, the "Ferengi". In the series, the Ferengi are portrayed as money-grubbing, amoral types who have absolutely no problem screwing anyone not of their ilk out of their possessions, money, or anything of value, "by any means necessary" with their "holy book", "The Rules of Acquisition" which pretty much mirrors the jewish Talmud.
    I wonder how this whole Ferengi character portrayal got past the Hollywood (jewish) censors. Or were they just poking fun at themselves?
    , @jacques sheete
    Good comments. Just don't tell AJM (the "genius") about them.
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  184. @Alfred
    Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ, but they are an ugly race. They are also dreadful at sport.

    When it comes to fighting, they prefer the Americans to do it for them. How about an article showing their - lack - of prowess in sport or on the catwalk?

    ‘Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ, but they are an ugly race. They are also dreadful at sport.

    When it comes to fighting, they prefer the Americans to do it for them. How about an article showing their – lack – of prowess in sport or on the catwalk?’

    Meh. For sports, Hank Greenberg and Sandy Koufax come to mind. As to looks — well, I can recall some decided counter-examples.

    I’ve actually got no problem at all with Jews — just so long as I can think of them separately from Israel.

    My difficulty is that it’s getting to be twenty years since I’ve been able to do that.

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  185. Mulegino1 says:
    @bj
    I am reminded of Hildegaard von Bingen, as I read your lament of the degradation of our transcendent culture.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS28jyW1bLY

    Absolutely! The Jews (as a collective) are as far from the celestial sphere and as close to the subterranean as the lowest of the aboriginals of the Australian hinterlands- perhaps quite more so, since the aboriginals retain at least a modicum of primitive religiosity, while the Talmudist only the most degenerated and corrupted elements- the absolute counter to authentic spirituality.

    Jewry- as a collective hive devoid of any true spirituality- can no more appreciate a St. Hildegard any more than it can appreciate a St. Thomas, a J.S. Bach, a Fra Angelico or a Tintoretto. Its opposition to nature and to the Logos which authored and governs nature renders it sterile and toxic to culture and society.

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    " Jewry cannot appreciate a JS Bach"

    Felix Mendelson the Jewish romance composer, is known throughout the music world as the individual who brought Bach, who had become more or less forgotten, back into the performance light. Without Mendelson's attention upon JS Bach, we would have no idea today who he, Bach, even was.

    You simply have no clue as to what you are blathering about.

    AJM
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  186. Them Guys says:
    @Rogue
    Gosh Wally, you are such a neutral when it comes to the Jews. Please, stop being such a fence-sitter. Tell us your real thoughts!

    BTW, how is anyone supposed to take your Codoh carry-on seriously? You often preface the Codoh web address with "no name calling, level playing field" but you're not exactly proof of that, are you?

    The Holocaust might be something of a scam (or at least lied about and exaggerated a lot), but you hardly strike me as the voice of neutral, academic concern.

    Why not just go to codoh website and see for your self? I hope you are not like some jews and shabozz goys here who demand proof links etc. And then when provided with it, they reply back with something akin to: “oh I went to check the website link you gave me, and all I can tell you is I did not read more than two words because I saw various website flags or Gulp! Saw a swastika, so I refuse to read another word or article there…..Now gimme yet more proof links I can reject because as per usual we jews and shabozz goys will never change our minds no matter what. We shabozz goys and jews invented the phrase of “Do not try to confuse me/us with real Facts and Truths as my/our minds made up already and no amount of facts or truths can ever change it”….Then most dem libs and lefty Marxists adopted that as their main slogan.

    I’d bet if you checked out codoh articles you’d walk away with a new mindset and perhaps a huge Re-think on wwii and jewish issues.

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    Nope, not really. I've been checking out revisionist stuff on WW2 and the Holocaust for quite a few years now.

    So I think it's possible that a lot or most of the official narrative is certainly questionable, but there are other factors to consider.

    The Nazi regime (or at least the top echelons) was hostile to Christianity, so as far as I'm concerned they were hardly righteous people. They had no problem with euthanising their own German people if they thought them surplus to requirements.

    Also, we all have personal bias - the way we want to see things. Usually when presented with evidence we don't like we tend to ignore it and go back to the more comforting stuff. Cuts both ways, of course.

    As far as the Holocaust is concerned, I think the jury's still out (but I sure do have my doubts on the official version).

    Anyway, my post was about Wally and his supposed "level playing field, no name calling" bs. I mean, he's not exactly Mr neutrality when it comes to the Jews now, is he?

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  187. Jmaie says:
    @ParadiseNow
    Giraldi always says what needs to be said. Excellent article.

    Speaking of the news that evaporates--"The story was covered in Israel and Europe but insofar as I could determine did not appear in any detail in the U.S. mainstream media"--and of the stories that disappear an hour or so after they are posted...

    I've never come across anyone in the US who had seen or heard of the story that popped up on my monitor one day while working in a newsroom in Los Angeles, a headline piece by the BBC stating that the California legislature in Sacramento had just passed a resolution apologizing to Mel Gibson for the treatment he was subjected to after his drunken comments were illegally relayed to the press. The article also reported that legislation was passed increasing fines and jail penalties in California for anyone who illegally gave or sold arrest information to the media.

    The story had some serious bearing on our immediate market as numerous celebrities' private medical information etc were being illegally gathered and sold to news outlets. I brought it to the attention of my (Jewish) chief editor who read the article, thanked me for the heads up, then completely ignored it.

    Shortly after the piece just evaporated from the BBC site, and to this day I can find no trace of it in their archives.

    On the subject of Jews celebrating the death of others, I have seen photos of them gaily cooking 'Rachel Corrie pancakes' to celebrate the death of the American student they brutally crushed to death with a tractor in occupied Palestine.

    I have seen photos of them gaily cooking ‘Rachel Corrie pancakes’

    Here’s my take as a (non-Jewish) American.

    My sympathies are with the Palestinians with regards to trying somehow to estabilsh sustainable territorial boundaries. IMHO Israel is clearly stealing land by building settlements in the West Bank. But given the ad-hoc nature of the current borders and the intent of the various parties, , God/Allah knows how this can be reasonably adjudicated.

    I am ambivalent with regards to the plight of those in Gaza, Egypt is certainly in a position to help. The southern border is after all under their control.

    Launching random missiles into southern Israel (assuming that’s an actual thing rather than propaganda on the Israeli’s part) seems silly and unlikely to improve the situation.

    Both parties seem to regard the other as filth, undeserving of human compassion. How we move forward from here is beyond my ability to guess.

    Arab neighbors seem to view refugees as pawns to be kept in squalor for their own political aims.

    It seems like (and this is my own reading from afar) Hamas uses the “right of return” as an issue to turn gullible Palestinian youth into canon fodder. It’s been 75 years and Israel is stronger than ever. Time to wake up and smell the coffee…

    There is so damn much much fault on both sides….

    Now, having said all that – Rachael Corrie pancakes? She was an idiot and I have not the slightest sympathy for her. I wish I’d thought the joke up….

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    " Launching random missiles into southern Israel (assuming that’s an actual thing rather than propaganda on the Israeli’s part) seems silly and unlikely to improve the situation. "

    What do you suggest the inmates of the Gaza concentration camp can do to get attention to their plight ?
    The only way seems to be to provoke Israel into some retaliatory action.
    Netanyahu is as stupid as Hitler, who let himself be provoked by Poland.
    And indeed, both sides see the other as dirt.
    , @jilles dykstra
    The jewish right of return goes back 2000 years, the Palestinian one to 1948.
    , @byrresheim

    Now, having said all that – Rachael Corrie pancakes? She was an idiot and I have not the slightest sympathy for her. I wish I’d thought the joke up….
     
    Thank you for unmasking yourself in the last sentence …
    , @L.K
    New Zionist shill on the block, 'jmaie'

    Now, having said all that – Rachael Corrie pancakes? She was an idiot and I have not the slightest sympathy for her. I wish I’d thought the joke up…
     
    Buddy, you really are FILTH.
    , @Druid
    Shame on you. Rachel Corrie was a thousanf Times the person you will ever be. It's not surprising at all that you'll never see that based on your spittle!
    , @art guerrilla
    @ jmaie -
    .
    what a POS, Rachel corrie had more guts in her little finger than a REALLY entitled keyboard commando and zionbot like you, than you have in your entire family... SHE put herself on the front lines, you -i'm betting- have NEVER done shit in your life but bitch and moan behind a screen...
    .
    not to mention, your nasty attitude comes shining through, better drop the 'impartial' bullshit shitbot... no nastiness for the bulldozer driver ? just gratuitous slandering of a singular brave soul standing up to power in a way a pants-wetter like you will NEVER know...
    .
    i'm old and weak, but we cross paths in a dark alley, one of us is not going to fare very well, you cowardly wormtongued maggot...
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  188. @renfro
    Yes I did miss your point that the Lobby is 'legal, sorry.

    However it is legal only by the grace of jewish influence in congress which has killed the half dozen attempts to make it register under FARA.

    AIPAC is given an exception by the politicians because its members happen to have US citizenship.

    BUT the reality is it lobbies strictly for Israel's interest.

    Both the CIA and the FBI have come close to nailing AIPAC numerous times for stealing classified documents and passing them to Israel....but have been called off by politicians.

    So despite its congressionally sanctioned legality it is a foreign lobby advocating for foreign interest.

    Hey, be careful. Saying sorry on UR threads could set a precedent : – )

    I should add that, though I credit myself with some ingenuity I think I would have trouble drafting a US law which actually caught a de facto foreign agent like AIPAC. I imagine it would be superprotected by top tax lawyers using their legal cunning pro bono (I.e. for the good of….). No doubt in a parallel universe Congressmen would be lining up to put their names to a constitutionally ineffective statute that would require AIPAC to register as a foreign agent but that would be the mirror image of the absurd anti BDS legislation. Mind you, what difference would it make if AIPAC did register? I don’t know if it would stop it spending money in some ways or advertising without restriction but, if it did, lo and behold see the Phoenix rising: AIPAC Mark 2.

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  189. @Wally
    Jews mock killing of pregnant Palestinians and children.
    https://nawaat.org/portail/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/israel_t-shirt.jpg

    Two teenage Israeli girls carrying a placard in Hebrew reading: "Hating Arabs is not racism, it's values."
    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02962/jewish-girls_2962213c.jpg

    www.codoh.com

    As a matter of interest do you know the history — provenance of those photographs? It couldn’t be easier to fake both and there are possibly more people wishing to do harm to Israel’s image than there are abysmally crude savages like those portrayed. One of the girls looks more likely to be East or South East Asian than any of the usual strains of Israeli but, in reality, there is no reason to suppose they knew that what they were holding up said what you say it says. Can you read it yourself or do you take the translation on trust as they may have?

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    They are from news articles where occasionally the truth is reported.
    https://www.haaretz.com/.premium-selfies-in-the-service-of-hate-1.5254300

    Also, Mondoweiss has the story: http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/selfie-potential-murderer/

    http://s19453.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/image-580x555.jpg
    "To hate Arabs isn’t racism, it’s having values"
    "East or south asian girls" not.

    Then try this: Israeli T-Shirts Joke About Killing Arabs
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israeli-t-shirts-joke-about-killing-arabs/

    Do better next time.

    www.codoh.com

    , @Tyrion 2
    Reverse image search tells me that both photographs are legitimate.

    The first is passed off as purposefully gross military graduation humour. The whole idea was to make them as offensive as possible. My English school graduation book was somehow much worse than those t-shirts and it even caused a similar scandal. It was, however, indicative of nothing as regards the underlying culture of the school, which was great.

    The second is an airhead reaction to the killing of 3 Israeli boys. It is only non-typical of intercommunal violence in that the girls are pretty.

    Obviously, were I in charge, I'd throw the book at both for adding fuel to the fire. Nonetheless, these behaviours are seen as comments to every single article on Unz.com. They almost always target Jews whether the article is about Jews or not. Yet that doesn't damn the whole of America merely because most commenters are from tbere. Not to me, at least. Nor anyone sensible.
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  190. @Tyrion 2

    Syria has returned to the the multi-confessional, pluralistic paradise it always was when compared with the abomination West of the Jordan River
     
    The number of deaths in a single year of the Syrian conflict exceed the last 70 years of the Palestinian-Israeli one. Try again.

    He did say “has returned” so your reply may not be strictly responsive. Of course he is sticking his neck out with “paradise”.

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    The recent civil war is not the first outbreak of extreme bloodletting in Syria. There had already been plenty.
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  191. Wally says:
    @lavoisier
    Two of the most beautiful women I ever dated were Jewish.

    The pictures are where?

    And BTW, converts don’t count. LOL.

    Mother Teresa was no doubt “beautiful” too.

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    No pictures unfortunately. Just some very intense memories.
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  192. Wally says:
    @j2
    Wally writes:
    "What, or who gives you the impression that “Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ”?

    Do you not admire the super-intelligent trolls on this site? I thought we are all flabbergasted by their intelligence and knowledge.

    That’s it? That’s your response?
    LOL

    I’ve nailed you with my question, and that’s your best shot.

    Once again and in your face:

    What, or who gives you the impression that “Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ”?

    I can only guess.

    If Jews were really so smart they would have conjured up a better, more believable story than their impossibly fake & stupid ’6,000,000 & gas chambers’.

    http://www.codoh.com

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    Wally wrote:
    "That’s it? That’s your response?
    LOL
    I’ve nailed you with my question, and that’s your best shot."

    OK Wally, I was joking, I actually do NOT find those trolls all that intelligent. But as you nailed me with a question "What, or who gives you the impression that “Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ?", I will answer it.

    Ashkenazi Jews had normal Mediterranean European IQ in Europe when they still lived in Tsar's Russia. Migration to the USA was selective: people, who moved were professional people, who could not find work because of new restrictions. Their IQ was higher than the average. Often it is other way, people who move are less intelligent and cannot find work (this was so for Poles, poor people from the mountains moved more often, less educated ones), but because of the new restrictions it was more intelligent Jews who moved. Additionally it seems that 1M Jews from Russia moved after the IQ tests were used for screening immigrants to the USA. They did not move as Russian Jews but through another country as non-Jewish inhabitants of the other country.

    Because of this selective migration, the average IQ of American Ashkenazi Jews seems to be about 108. The reason is that only few Jews with below 100 IQ migrated. (Cut off the part below 100 from a normal distribution and calculate the average, it is 112.) As this is the reason, there are twice as many Jews above some range, like 151, than non-Jewish whites, which is what Terman found. Twice as much means that US Jews mostly lack those below IQ 100. It also means that they do actually not have any more super-intelligent people, as those below IQ 100 do not count.

    I base these considerations on Wordsum results. You can read my argument from:
    http://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2018/02/21/a-short-note-on-the-iq-of-american-ashkenazi-jews/

    As a short summary, ignoring this selection, I think Ashkenazi Jews are not any more intelligent than Mediterranean Europeans and they have a typical Mediterranean skew to verbal IQ. In research projects it was always best to work with Northern Europeans, not with these good performers and talkers, but doers. There were two Jews in these projects with me, they were not any more intelligent than the others, they were talkers.

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  193. RobinG says:
    @renfro
    A look at what the public says Trump should do.


    When asked whether Trump should lean toward Israel toward Israel or Palestine or Neither

    http://worldpublicopinion.net/palestine-and-israel-in-the-shadow-of-the-election-what-do-americans-want-obama-and-trump-to-do/

    Favor Israel

    Repubs - 56%
    Dems - 17%
    Independents - 29%

    Favor Neither Israel or Palestine

    Repubs - 42%
    Dems -69%
    Independents- 66%

    Have you seen any data about Trump voters who are dissatisfied with his performance? Is anyone even asking that?

    Even if someone says, “I’m a Trump supporter, but I don’t like what he’s doing about X,” all you get is huge defensive BS, accused that you like Hillary, other crap, etc.
    I’m not talking about Repub. “never Trumpers,” but those who think he’s making some mistakes.

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    I haven't seen any reliable polls on that......the msm has interviews with Trump supporters who say they are disappointed in him for whatever thats worth, probably not much.
    Have seen though polls that show some Trumpers against his polices like off shore drilling in the US, his tax plan, his ditching the Iran agreement and etc..
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  194. Wally says:
    @Anthony Aaron
    And jews wonder why the world has tried to get rid of them? Really?

    How can so many folks who are self-described as being so superior to all of the rest of the Creation in intellect and otherwise be so clueless?

    Arrogance is NOT a virtue …

    Don’t forget, Jew have been claiming the fake ’6,000,000′ since at least 1823.
    Always looking to be carried by gentiles.
    Their lack of pride & honor is shameful.

    http://www.codoh.com

    https://imgur.com/a/0LFFF

    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php

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  195. Wally says:
    @Rogue
    Gosh Wally, you are such a neutral when it comes to the Jews. Please, stop being such a fence-sitter. Tell us your real thoughts!

    BTW, how is anyone supposed to take your Codoh carry-on seriously? You often preface the Codoh web address with "no name calling, level playing field" but you're not exactly proof of that, are you?

    The Holocaust might be something of a scam (or at least lied about and exaggerated a lot), but you hardly strike me as the voice of neutral, academic concern.

    OK, big talking “Rogue”, check it out for yourself.
    Register at the CODOH Forum and give it your best shot.
    There is no name calling and dodging there. So come on, quit making excuses.
    I’m calling your bluff.

    BTW, Ron Unz’s site is obviously completely different in tone and moderation, yet I’m the only one you criticize for language. Give me a bloody break, you’re showing your hand.
    I also note that you cannot refute anything that I have posted in this thread and in the many, many other threads at this site where there are a multitude ‘holocau$t’ debunking posts by me and many others. *

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are laughable, scientifically impossible frauds. See the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

    * Try another one:
    ‘Some Technical and Chemical Considerations about the ‘Gas Chambers’ of Auschwitz and Birkenau’
    by Master Chemist Germar Rudolf

    http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndgcger.html

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    The issue is not about Holocaust or WW2 revision.

    That's fine. I'm into a lot of it myself and like to keep an open mind.

    However, you can hardly try to pretend you're some sort of academic neutral when it comes to the Holocaust, or Jews in general, when you never lose an opportunity to say something negative about them, regardless of context.

    For example, you say that Jewish women in Israel are ugly. How do you know? Have you been there? Ive already said I haven't myself and am only going on hearsay.

    So, anyway, the issue is your obvious bias that doesn't exactly square with "no name calling, level playing field" yada yada ...

    As it is, I have checked out the Codoh sight already.
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  196. Wally says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    As a matter of interest do you know the history -- provenance of those photographs? It couldn't be easier to fake both and there are possibly more people wishing to do harm to Israel's image than there are abysmally crude savages like those portrayed. One of the girls looks more likely to be East or South East Asian than any of the usual strains of Israeli but, in reality, there is no reason to suppose they knew that what they were holding up said what you say it says. Can you read it yourself or do you take the translation on trust as they may have?

    They are from news articles where occasionally the truth is reported.

    https://www.haaretz.com/.premium-selfies-in-the-service-of-hate-1.5254300

    Also, Mondoweiss has the story: http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/selfie-potential-murderer/
    “To hate Arabs isn’t racism, it’s having values”
    “East or south asian girls” not.

    Then try this: Israeli T-Shirts Joke About Killing Arabs

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israeli-t-shirts-joke-about-killing-arabs/

    Do better next time.

    http://www.codoh.com

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  197. @Jmaie

    I have seen photos of them gaily cooking ‘Rachel Corrie pancakes’
     
    Here's my take as a (non-Jewish) American.

    My sympathies are with the Palestinians with regards to trying somehow to estabilsh sustainable territorial boundaries. IMHO Israel is clearly stealing land by building settlements in the West Bank. But given the ad-hoc nature of the current borders and the intent of the various parties, , God/Allah knows how this can be reasonably adjudicated.

    I am ambivalent with regards to the plight of those in Gaza, Egypt is certainly in a position to help. The southern border is after all under their control.

    Launching random missiles into southern Israel (assuming that's an actual thing rather than propaganda on the Israeli's part) seems silly and unlikely to improve the situation.

    Both parties seem to regard the other as filth, undeserving of human compassion. How we move forward from here is beyond my ability to guess.

    Arab neighbors seem to view refugees as pawns to be kept in squalor for their own political aims.

    It seems like (and this is my own reading from afar) Hamas uses the "right of return" as an issue to turn gullible Palestinian youth into canon fodder. It's been 75 years and Israel is stronger than ever. Time to wake up and smell the coffee...

    There is so damn much much fault on both sides....

    Now, having said all that - Rachael Corrie pancakes? She was an idiot and I have not the slightest sympathy for her. I wish I'd thought the joke up....

    ” Launching random missiles into southern Israel (assuming that’s an actual thing rather than propaganda on the Israeli’s part) seems silly and unlikely to improve the situation. ”

    What do you suggest the inmates of the Gaza concentration camp can do to get attention to their plight ?
    The only way seems to be to provoke Israel into some retaliatory action.
    Netanyahu is as stupid as Hitler, who let himself be provoked by Poland.
    And indeed, both sides see the other as dirt.

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    What do you suggest the inmates of the Gaza concentration camp can do to get attention to their plight?
     
    This requires far more space than is available here to give a complete answer. But in short, there seems to be no lack of attention to the Palestinians cause, and (most of) the rest of the world has been condemning the Israeli's actions seemingly forever. Launching missiles has already provoked multiple military incursions, and how has that worked out? Definition of insanity and all that.
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  198. @Jmaie

    I have seen photos of them gaily cooking ‘Rachel Corrie pancakes’
     
    Here's my take as a (non-Jewish) American.

    My sympathies are with the Palestinians with regards to trying somehow to estabilsh sustainable territorial boundaries. IMHO Israel is clearly stealing land by building settlements in the West Bank. But given the ad-hoc nature of the current borders and the intent of the various parties, , God/Allah knows how this can be reasonably adjudicated.

    I am ambivalent with regards to the plight of those in Gaza, Egypt is certainly in a position to help. The southern border is after all under their control.

    Launching random missiles into southern Israel (assuming that's an actual thing rather than propaganda on the Israeli's part) seems silly and unlikely to improve the situation.

    Both parties seem to regard the other as filth, undeserving of human compassion. How we move forward from here is beyond my ability to guess.

    Arab neighbors seem to view refugees as pawns to be kept in squalor for their own political aims.

    It seems like (and this is my own reading from afar) Hamas uses the "right of return" as an issue to turn gullible Palestinian youth into canon fodder. It's been 75 years and Israel is stronger than ever. Time to wake up and smell the coffee...

    There is so damn much much fault on both sides....

    Now, having said all that - Rachael Corrie pancakes? She was an idiot and I have not the slightest sympathy for her. I wish I'd thought the joke up....

    The jewish right of return goes back 2000 years, the Palestinian one to 1948.

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    The jewish right of return goes back 2000 years, the Palestinian one to 1948.
     
    And? Both parties'** right of return is based on the amount of force they are able to bring to bear.

    ** The very last thing I'm interested in is another tit-for-tat history lesson attempting to justify why either group is entitled to live there/keep the other out. The entire history of the world involves invasion and conquest.
    , @renfro

    The jewish right of return goes back 2000 years, the Palestinian one to 1948
     
    .

    I think we all know where you get that kind of myth and propaganda. You can go to any historian and find the timeline of the Canaanites in ancient Philistia as it was called then.

    To quote the renowned historian/anthropologist and “Holy Land” specialist, Professor Ilene Beatty:

    “When we speak of ‘Palestinians’ or of the ‘Arab population [of Palestine]‘, we must bear in mind their Canaanite origin. This is important because their legal right to the country stems from the fact that the Canaanites were first, which gives them priority; their descendants have continued to live there, which gives them continuity; and (except for the 800,000 dispossessed refugees [of 1948 along with the further hundreds of thousands expelled before and after the war Israel launched on 5 June 1967]) they are still living there, which gives them present possession. Thus we see that on purely statistical grounds they have a proven legal right to their own land.” (“Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan,” 1957)
    In short, today’s Palestinians and their ancestors have been living continuously between the River and the Sea for about 9,000 years.''
    , @renfro
    You could help yourself by learning the real history.....I suggest the foremost historian on the subject Thomas Thompson and his ' History of Arabia'.


    # Jerusalem was not founded by Jews, i.e. adherents of the Jewish religion. It was founded between 3000 BCE and 2600 BCE by a West Semitic people or possibly the Canaanites, the common ancestors of Palestinians, Lebanese, many Syrians and Jordanians, and many Jews. But when it was founded Jews did not exist.

    # Jerusalem was founded in honor of the ancient god Shalem. It does not mean City of Peace but rather ‘built-up place of Shalem.”

    # The “Jewish people” were not building Jerusalem 3000 years ago, i.e. 1000 BCE. First of all, it is not clear when exactly Judaism as a religion centered on the worship of the one God took firm form. It appears to have been a late development since no evidence of worship of anything but ordinary Canaanite deities has been found in archeological sites through 1000 BCE. There was no invasion of geographical Palestine from Egypt by former slaves in the 1200s BCE. The pyramids had been built much earlier and had not used slave labor. The chronicle of the events of the reign of Ramses II on the wall in Luxor does not know about any major slave revolts or flights by same into the Sinai peninsula. Egyptian sources never heard of Moses or the 10 plagues & etc. Jews and Judaism emerged from a certain social class of Canaanites over a period of centuries inside Palestine.

    # Jerusalem not only was not being built by the likely then non-existent “Jewish people” in 1000 BCE, but Jerusalem probably was not even inhabited at that point in history. Jerusalem appears to have been abandoned between 1000 BCE and 900 BCE, the traditional dates for the united kingdom under David and Solomon. So Jerusalem was not ‘the city of David,’ since there was no city when he is said to have lived. No sign of magnificent palaces or great states has been found in the archeology of this period, and the Assyrian tablets, which recorded even minor events throughout the Middle East, such as the actions of Arab queens, don’t know about any great kingdom of David and Solomon in geographical Palestine.

    # Since archeology does not show the existence of a Jewish kingdom or kingdoms in the so-called First Temple Period, it is not clear when exactly the Jewish people would have ruled Jerusalem except for the Hasmonean Kingdom. The Assyrians conquered Jerusalem in 722. The Babylonians took it in 597 and ruled it until they were themselves conquered in 539 BCE by the Achaemenids of ancient Iran, who ruled Jerusalem until Alexander the Great took the Levant in the 330s BCE. Alexander’s descendants, the Ptolemies ruled Jerusalem until 198 when Alexander’s other descendants, the Seleucids, took the city. With the Maccabean Revolt in 168 BCE, the Jewish Hasmonean kingdom did rule Jerusalem until 37 BCE, though Antigonus II Mattathias, the last Hasmonean, only took over Jerusalem with the help of the Parthian dynasty in 40 BCE. Herod ruled 37 BCE until the Romans conquered what they called Palestine in 6 CE (CE= ‘Common Era’ or what Christians call AD). The Romans and then the Eastern Roman Empire of Byzantium ruled Jerusalem from 6 CE until 614 CE when the Iranian Sasanian Empire Conquered it, ruling until 629 CE when the Byzantines took it back.

    #The Muslims conquered Jerusalem in 638 and ruled it until 1099 when the Crusaders conquered it. The Crusaders killed or expelled Jews and Muslims from the city. The Muslims under Saladin took it back in 1187 CE and allowed Jews to return, and Muslims ruled it until the end of World War I, or altogether for about 1192 years.

    #Adherents of Judaism did not found Jerusalem. It existed for perhaps 2700 years before anything we might recognize as Judaism arose. Jewish rule may have been no longer than 170 years or so, i.e., the kingdom of the Hasmoneans.

    # Therefore if historical building of Jerusalem and historical connection with Jerusalem establishes sovereignty over it here are the groups that have the greatest claim to the city:

    A. The Muslims, who ruled it and built it over 1191 years.
    B. The Egyptians, who ruled it as a vassal state for several hundred years in the second millennium BCE.
    C. The Italians, who ruled it about 444 years until the fall of the Roman Empire in 450 CE.
    D. The Iranians, who ruled it for 205 years under the Achaemenids, for three years under the Parthians (insofar as the last Hasmonean was actually their vassal), and for 15 years under the Sasanids.
    E. The Greeks, who ruled it for over 160 years if we count the Ptolemys and Seleucids as Greek. If we count them as Egyptians and Syrians, that would increase the Egyptian claim and introduce a Syrian one.
    F. The successor states to the Byzantines, which could be either Greece or Turkey, who ruled it 188 years, though if we consider the heir to be Greece and add in the time the Hellenistic Greek dynasties ruled it, that would give Greece nearly 350 years as ruler of Jerusalem.
    G. There is an Iraqi claim to Jerusalem based on the Assyrian and Babylonian conquests, as well as perhaps the rule of the Ayyubids (Saladin’s dynasty), who were Kurds from Iraq.
    , @L.K
    I understand what you are saying, Jilles, but let's be accurate, shall we?

    The Jews have ZERO right to "return" to Palestine... one cannot go back to a place one never left in the first place.

    The story that the Romans expelled the Jews from Palestine 2000 years ago is FALSE.
    See Israeli historian Shlomo Sand( the invention of the Jewish people).

    At any rate, even had the story been true - and it is NOT - the notion of modern Jews laying claim to the land 2000 years later is truly bizarre.
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  199. @CCR
    The only problem with the Israelis is that they have never been brutal enough. If they had driven all the Muslims out of the areas they conquered there would be no "middle-east" problem today. It still isn't too late for them to get serious about this.

    They did drive the Palestinians out.
    The mistake was not to commit genocide.
    Jabotinski in 1923 saw it well ‘just force will make Palestinians give up their lands’.
    But he did not foresee that they never really would give up.
    What he also did not foresee that the ethnic cleansing would cause a growth of the number of Palestinians.
    As far as I can see Israel has no long time strategy for dealing with the Palestinian problem.
    Trying to convince the great majority of the world’s countries in the UN Assembly that they’re all wrong, and Israel right, lunacy.

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  200. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @MacNucc11
    Yes, but Christians and Jews are doing fine in Iran and no one is killing each other, but keep pushing the msm talking points. This is not a world view knowledgeable people share. You spout this crap and a) hope no one calls you on it and b) take note of who does.

    The Christians and Jews are only second class citizens so it doesn’t matter that the Arabs are third class, the Baluchis are 10th class and the Baha”i are banned?

    Truly, Iran is wonderful to its minorities…

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  201. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz
    He did say "has returned" so your reply may not be strictly responsive. Of course he is sticking his neck out with "paradise".

    The recent civil war is not the first outbreak of extreme bloodletting in Syria. There had already been plenty.

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  202. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @David
    "Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country."
    Nonsense!! Classic hasbara, i.e., "whataboutery."

    Reality:
    Setting aside Israel's well docmented gross violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention i.e., "Collective Punishment" regarding its imprisonment of two million Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and its repeated mass slaughters of them by land, sea and air, e.g., 2,500, including over 500 children, in Operation Protective Edge.

    Israel is and always has been a racist ethnocracy, i.e., a political structure in which the state apparatus is appropriated by a dominant ethnic group to further its interests, power and resources. In short, apartheid.

    To wit:
    Hendrik Verwoerd, then prime minister of South Africa and the architect of South Africa’s apartheid policies, 1961: “Israel, like South Africa, is an apartheid state.” (Rand Daily Mail, November 23, 1961)

    Jacobus Johannes Fouché, South African Minister of Defence during the apartheid era, compared the two states and said that Israel also practiced apartheid. (Gideon Shimoni (1980). Jews and Zionism: The South African Experience 1910-1967. Cape Town: Oxford UP. pp. 310–336. ISBN 0195701798.

    “Former Foreign Ministry director-general invokes South Africa comparisons. ‘Joint Israel-West Bank’ reality is an apartheid state”
    EXCERPT: “Similarities between the ‘original apartheid’ as it was practiced in South Africa and the situation in ISRAEL [my emphasis] and the West Bank today ‘scream to the heavens,’ added [Alon] Liel, who was Israel’s ambassador in Pretoria from 1992 to 1994. There can be little doubt that the suffering of Palestinians is not less intense than that of blacks during apartheid-era South Africa, he asserted.” (Times of Israel, February 21, 2013)

    Video: Israeli TV Host Implores Israelis: Wake Up and Smell the Apartheid
    https://www.youtube.com/wat…

    In its 2015 Country Report on Human Rights Practices for Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories, published in 2016, the U.S. Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor acknowledges the “institutional and societal discrimination against Arab citizens of Israel.”

    Ronnie Kasrils, a key player in the struggle against the former South African apartheid regime, minister for intelligence and a devout Jew: “The Palestinian minority in Israel has for decades been denied basic equality in health, education, housing and land possession, solely because it is not Jewish. The fact that this minority is allowed to vote hardly redresses the rampant injustice in all other basic human rights. They are excluded from the very definition of the ‘Jewish state’, and have virtually no influence on the laws, or political, social and economic policies. Hence, their similarity to the black South Africans [under apartheid].” (The Guardian, 25 May 2005)

    Shlomo Gazit, retired IDF Major General: "[Israel's] legal system that enforces the law in a discriminatory way on the basis of national identity, is actually maintaining an apartheid regime." (Haaretz, July 19, 2011)

    Israel also differentiates between citizenship and nationality, i.e., “Israeli” nationality does not exist, only Jews and non-Jews, and each citizen carries an appropriate identity card. While the implications of this absurdity for discrimination and racism against non-Jews are obvious, it has been upheld by Israel’s Supreme Court.

    The effect of its blatantly racist “Citizenship Law” and more than fifty other restrictions Arab citizens have to endure is well expressed by writer and Knesset member, Ahmed Tibi: “…dutifully defining the state as ‘Jewish and democratic,’ ignores the fact that in practice ‘democratic’ refers to Jews, and the Arabs are nothing more than citizens without citizenship.” (Ma’ariv, 1.6.2005)

    For the record: Eminent Jewish Israeli journalist, Bradley Burston, aptly sums up the horrors Israel inflicts on Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and occupied East Jerusalem:
    “Occupation is Slavery”
    EXCERPT:
    “In the name of occupation, generation after generation of Palestinians have been treated as property. They can be moved at will, shackled at will, tortured at will, have their families separated at will. They can be denied the right to vote, to own property, to meet or speak to family and friends. They can be hounded or even shot dead by their masters, who claim their position by biblical right, and also use them to build and work on the plantations the toilers cannot themselves ever hope to own. The masters dehumanize them, call them by the names of beasts.” (Haaretz, Feb. 26/13)

    It is not “whataboutery” to point out that Israel is less “an Apartheid state” than practically every Asian and African country. Not if part of the definition of “Apartheid” is that is an ‘especial evil’.

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    Since the model for apartheid is South Africa's segregating large parts of its population by pushing people of common race or ethnicity into Bantustans and restricting their rights in the rest off South Africa it is easy to see why Israel's treatment of Palestinians is compared to Apartheid... BUT where in Asia or Africa is there anything comparable?
    , @David
    Tyrion 2

    Sigh. Pathetic response. Unworthy of further comment.
    , @MacNucc11
    Great, we are making progress here. So good to see you finally submit that Israel is an apartheid state although less so than African and Asian countries. Good show at least we now can classify it where it really belongs and drop any pretense of a first rate western style democracy. Thank you thank you thank you for finally coming clean on this.
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  203. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @MacNucc11
    Gee, funny how tourists are not flocking to Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria after the U.S. has bombed them and set jihadists loose on the population. As I recall Trump had even launched missiles at the airport in Syria. Just what you want to hear the pilot telling you as you are coming in for a landing. But this is all beside the point. What has tourist "numbers" got to do with being a minority in another country? A tourist is not a citizen of that country they are visiting. This is a non-sequitur.

    He brought up tourism. Go learn what non sequitor means.

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  204. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Incitatus
    “Reality is such that if you have something really good and you are not willing to defend it with lethal force, after a moderate and sensible course of escalation”

    Thanks for the lecture on “reality”. What a treat! Did we miss the “moderate and sensible” non-lethal means of restraint that ‘escalated’ to “lethal force”? Please enumerate them. Chronologically.

    With respect, the question is not willingness to defend a “good thing” with lethal force. Was the survival of Israel (which I support) ever in doubt? Is the survival of the US in doubt?

    The question is do you have a “good thing” when minorities are murdered and their murderers gloat and run free? Equally, it’s whether technology and relaxed morals (i.e. relativity, rationalization, laziness) licenses hubris.

    Still waiting:
    • How many F-35s is the US giving Iraq, Syria, Iran?
    • Why should Likud conduct be excused by comparing it to those Israel routinely condemns?
    • Does “sniping” mean shooting/killing/maiming unarmed people from a safe distance?
    • Is “sniping” “more humane” than water-cannon, tear gas, and other non-lethal restraint?
    • American media is disproportionately silent in criticism of Likud compared with Israeli media. Why?

    What a treat! Did we miss the “moderate and sensible” non-lethal means of restraint that ‘escalated’ to “lethal force”? Please enumerate them. Chronologically.

    I haven’t seen a good account of what happened in the day either, but I assume the IDF followed the escalation drills which every modern army learns.

    With respect, the question is not willingness to defend a “good thing” with lethal force. Was the survival of Israel (which I support) ever in doubt? Is the survival of the US in doubt?

    Yes. Either you have a border you can enfore or you don’t. Either you have a nation or you don’t.

    Of course now you will say “but America still exists” but that is to fetishise the name at the expense of its actual meaning. What America was no longer exists and that is mostly because it was given away at the Southern border.

    The question is do you have a “good thing” when minorities are murdered and their murderers gloat and run free?

    People are shot for property crimes all over the world all of the time. Very rarely is it considered murder. Why is this different?

    Still waiting:

    I ignored what was irrelevant to try to keep this on subject, honest and simple. But whatever…

    • How many F-35s is the US giving Iraq, Syria, Iran?

    Superpowers give regional powers weapons they have the technical ability to sustain and when they have the military ability to be useful to the superpower. None of those three countries fit both.

    • Why should Likud conduct be excused by comparing it to those Israel routinely condemns?

    I never said it should.

    • Does “sniping” mean shooting/killing/maiming unarmed people from a safe distance?

    All shooting is best done from a safe distance. That doesn’t mean other things should be left undefended though.

    • Is “sniping” “more humane” than water-cannon, tear gas, and other non-lethal restraint?

    It is an escalation for when those haven’t worked or there’s a reasonable assumption that they won’t. The former is likely the case here.

    • American media is disproportionately silent in criticism of Likud compared with Israeli media. Why

    Why does the Israeli media report more on Israel than the American media reports on Israel?

    Need I actually answer that?

    (To anyone else I missed…apologies, I’m sure your words were very kind but England won on penalties last night so I had better things to think about.)

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    Usual psychopathic gibberish
    Your inhumane meter is despicable
    Just like you
    , @Wizard of Oz
    You seem not to have noticed that there were two similar sanguinary episodes a couple of weeks apart handled in exactly the same way without learning any lessons from the first experience.

    Let's look at what should have been understood in the second occasion at worst.

    1. The mostly (by far) unarmed civilians demonstrated and made a few symbolic gestures reflecting their claim that they were entitled to return to their families' lands, but none actually entered territory outside Gaza. If a bunch of unpredictable hoodlums were behaving equivalently near the fence of a householder with, say, four adult males at home and armed with rifles it would be murder if one of the armed defenders fired over the defence to kill one of the hoodlums. If one jumped or broke down the fence then it would be an arguable though not certain defence to a charge of murder if the intruder was immediately shot and killed.

    2. Even if the Palestinians had broken through the fence it should be noted that it would not have been like an incipient home invasion let alone a threat to Israeli security. After all it is not as though there are Israeli residential suburbs anywhere near the Gaza border. But suppose they had broken through the fence rather than just tossed some totally ineffectual missiles over it. Suppose some protestors had broken through and were brandishing weapons. Then a couple of bursts of machine gun fire would have finished them off and might (just) have been justified. But no such restraint was shown.

    Can you really think of any justification for the way it was handled that doesn't fall back on an argument that sufficiently determined brutality is the only way to get rid of Hamas and deliver a Palestinian negotiating party that will have to be grateful for whatever it is offered?
    , @Incitatus
    “I haven’t seen a good account of what happened…but I assume the IDF followed the escalation drills which every modern army learns.”

    Unaware of steps (if any) leading to live fire killing dozens, but unequivocal it’s “most humane”? Blind faith? Caution. It easily leads to disaster, as Americans know too well.

    “Either you have a border you can enfore or you don’t. Either you have a nation or you don’t."

    Means of enforcement is the question. Israel’s sovereignty was never threatened. Cold-blooded deadly force was apparently used. A PR bonanza for enemies of Israel.

    “now you will say “but America still exists” but that is to fetishise the name at the expense of its actual meaning. What America was no longer exists and that is mostly because it was given away at the Southern border.”

    America is change. Should borders be controlled and law enforced? Yes. With deadly force as the first option? Don’t think so.

    If Trump was serious he’d make E-Verify mandatory - jobs for illegals would vanish. Cheap labor is addictive for employers, especially when the threat of deportation boosts productivity. Trump uses the H-2B visa program. 143 of 144 jobs went to aliens at three of his properties: https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers. MAGA!

    ‘do you have a “good thing” when minorities are murdered and their murderers gloat and run free?’
    “People are shot for property crimes all over the world all of the time.”

    The incinerated Dawabsheh family was the intended reference. There is a vocal support group – cheerleaders for arson and murder – empowered by the crime and unabashedly celebrating it.

    Extremism tests any nation. Public regard and legal remedy indicates credible restraint or permissiveness that can be dangerous.

    ‘American media is disproportionately silent in criticism of Likud compared with Israeli media. Why’
    “Why does the Israeli media report more on Israel than the American media reports on Israel?”

    Sorry for any confusion. The point intended was Israeli media has a healthy mix of opinion and criticism. US media, understandably briefer, edits out the critical, as if Likud filters coverage. A disservice to Israel IMO.

    ‘How many F-35s is the US giving Iraq, Syria, Iran?’
    “Superpowers give regional powers weapons they have the technical ability to sustain and when they have the military ability to be useful to the superpower. None of those three countries fit both”

    Disproportionately powerful, deadly weapons – F-35s or sniper rifles - can, in ease of use, corrupt all that possess them. They easily become the first option, rather than last resort. US ‘Shock and Awe’ in Iraq 2003 is a good example.

    With respect “most humane” is mind-fart language. Understandable on Unz Planet Germania, where many pine for the good-old Third Reich, laud Hitler, and routinely serve up other rubbish. But unconvincing and ultimately a disservice to those you support. Just a thought.
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  205. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz
    As a matter of interest do you know the history -- provenance of those photographs? It couldn't be easier to fake both and there are possibly more people wishing to do harm to Israel's image than there are abysmally crude savages like those portrayed. One of the girls looks more likely to be East or South East Asian than any of the usual strains of Israeli but, in reality, there is no reason to suppose they knew that what they were holding up said what you say it says. Can you read it yourself or do you take the translation on trust as they may have?

    Reverse image search tells me that both photographs are legitimate.

    The first is passed off as purposefully gross military graduation humour. The whole idea was to make them as offensive as possible. My English school graduation book was somehow much worse than those t-shirts and it even caused a similar scandal. It was, however, indicative of nothing as regards the underlying culture of the school, which was great.

    The second is an airhead reaction to the killing of 3 Israeli boys. It is only non-typical of intercommunal violence in that the girls are pretty.

    Obviously, were I in charge, I’d throw the book at both for adding fuel to the fire. Nonetheless, these behaviours are seen as comments to every single article on Unz.com. They almost always target Jews whether the article is about Jews or not. Yet that doesn’t damn the whole of America merely because most commenters are from tbere. Not to me, at least. Nor anyone sensible.

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    Indeed the young don't throw over the gross adolescent brain for quite a long time after we let them vote, drive, drink etc. And then a lot of them find ways to continue to be gross for most of their lives.

    And now for something really important. Please tell me how to do the reverse search.
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  206. @Jmaie

    I have seen photos of them gaily cooking ‘Rachel Corrie pancakes’
     
    Here's my take as a (non-Jewish) American.

    My sympathies are with the Palestinians with regards to trying somehow to estabilsh sustainable territorial boundaries. IMHO Israel is clearly stealing land by building settlements in the West Bank. But given the ad-hoc nature of the current borders and the intent of the various parties, , God/Allah knows how this can be reasonably adjudicated.

    I am ambivalent with regards to the plight of those in Gaza, Egypt is certainly in a position to help. The southern border is after all under their control.

    Launching random missiles into southern Israel (assuming that's an actual thing rather than propaganda on the Israeli's part) seems silly and unlikely to improve the situation.

    Both parties seem to regard the other as filth, undeserving of human compassion. How we move forward from here is beyond my ability to guess.

    Arab neighbors seem to view refugees as pawns to be kept in squalor for their own political aims.

    It seems like (and this is my own reading from afar) Hamas uses the "right of return" as an issue to turn gullible Palestinian youth into canon fodder. It's been 75 years and Israel is stronger than ever. Time to wake up and smell the coffee...

    There is so damn much much fault on both sides....

    Now, having said all that - Rachael Corrie pancakes? She was an idiot and I have not the slightest sympathy for her. I wish I'd thought the joke up....

    Now, having said all that – Rachael Corrie pancakes? She was an idiot and I have not the slightest sympathy for her. I wish I’d thought the joke up….

    Thank you for unmasking yourself in the last sentence …

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    Thank you for unmasking yourself in the last sentence …
     
    I didn't realize I was hiding...

    Are you claiming she wasn't a deluded and naive individual with entitlement issues, who's hubris ended up costing her her life? Granted she was assisted in this delusion by everyone in her life, but at the end of the day she was the one who thought that standing in front of a bulldozer was a good idea.

    Kind of like that that guy who decided to "commune with the bears" and ended up getting himself and his girlfriend eaten.
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  207. Rogue says:
    @Them Guys
    Why not just go to codoh website and see for your self? I hope you are not like some jews and shabozz goys here who demand proof links etc. And then when provided with it, they reply back with something akin to: "oh I went to check the website link you gave me, and all I can tell you is I did not read more than two words because I saw various website flags or Gulp! Saw a swastika, so I refuse to read another word or article there.....Now gimme yet more proof links I can reject because as per usual we jews and shabozz goys will never change our minds no matter what. We shabozz goys and jews invented the phrase of "Do not try to confuse me/us with real Facts and Truths as my/our minds made up already and no amount of facts or truths can ever change it"....Then most dem libs and lefty Marxists adopted that as their main slogan.

    I'd bet if you checked out codoh articles you'd walk away with a new mindset and perhaps a huge Re-think on wwii and jewish issues.

    Nope, not really. I’ve been checking out revisionist stuff on WW2 and the Holocaust for quite a few years now.

    So I think it’s possible that a lot or most of the official narrative is certainly questionable, but there are other factors to consider.

    The Nazi regime (or at least the top echelons) was hostile to Christianity, so as far as I’m concerned they were hardly righteous people. They had no problem with euthanising their own German people if they thought them surplus to requirements.

    Also, we all have personal bias – the way we want to see things. Usually when presented with evidence we don’t like we tend to ignore it and go back to the more comforting stuff. Cuts both ways, of course.

    As far as the Holocaust is concerned, I think the jury’s still out (but I sure do have my doubts on the official version).

    Anyway, my post was about Wally and his supposed “level playing field, no name calling” bs. I mean, he’s not exactly Mr neutrality when it comes to the Jews now, is he?

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    Hahahahahahahaha
    Once again, dumb as doorbell
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  208. Winifred says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Discussion on another thread of motives Israel might have had for killing JFK included suggestions that the Kennedy brothers attempts to get Zioniist lobbyists to register as foreign agents might have been very serious for Israel. Without doing the research which a lawyer being paid for his opinion would put into it I nonetheless formed a confident view that the argument had no legs.

    No it appears AIPAC isn't a foreign lobby. If you don't like what it does you would say it is much worse - but untouchable by Mueller.

    It is perhaps peripheral to your comment but I suggest that the reality is that the same rich Americans who have long supported Israel have set up perfectly legal American organizations that happen to reflect Israeli policy in their lobbying without being legally controlled or controllable by Israel.

    I’d like to remind Wizard of Oz that Michael Collins Piper, unlike you, did do the research in his book “Final Judgement” (currently being featured on UNZ) and came to an entirely different conclusion to you on the JFK assassination. Of course, the book was barely allowed to see the light of day, thanks to the usual mass Jewish outcry against it, and the author has since died (in strange circumstances, it is said). It’s your facile argument that ‘has no legs’.
    As for your view that AIPAC is not a foreign lobby, that is just a technical nicety. Why do all aspiring presidential candidates feel compelled to grovel and prostrate themselves before AIPAC on the topic of Israel if it is not a de facto foreign lobby?

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    People like you get into trouble with the law because they think they can wave facts around and use what seems common sense to them without bothering to understand the arguments that count. Unless corrected by some seriously learned American lawyer I am confident that the same quality of lawyer who gives rich Jews their tax advice would be telling them not to get fussed about all this registering as a foreign agent business but just to use American money to finance an American think tank (or whatever you like to call it) and lobby for policies that there Israeli friends like. You may well say it (even First Amendment arguments) is a technicality but that is what the law is - with the exception of what juries do.
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  209. Kolo says:
    @Rogue
    I have to admit I wince at the statistics regarding the Evangelicals views of the so-called chosen.

    Being, loosely, an Evangelical myself, I believe that the Jews are utterly not the chosen people. Any reasonable reading of the New Testament should convince any neutral reader that the chosen are followers of Christ, regardless of race or culture.

    Christian Zionism is not the way forward, though many Christian Zionists are well-intentioned.

    Christian Zionism is not the way forward, though many Christian Zionists are well-intentioned.

    Haha haha
    You are dumb

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  210. Kolo says:
    @Tyrion 2

    What a treat! Did we miss the “moderate and sensible” non-lethal means of restraint that ‘escalated’ to “lethal force”? Please enumerate them. Chronologically.
     
    I haven't seen a good account of what happened in the day either, but I assume the IDF followed the escalation drills which every modern army learns.

    With respect, the question is not willingness to defend a “good thing” with lethal force. Was the survival of Israel (which I support) ever in doubt? Is the survival of the US in doubt?
     
    Yes. Either you have a border you can enfore or you don't. Either you have a nation or you don't.

    Of course now you will say "but America still exists" but that is to fetishise the name at the expense of its actual meaning. What America was no longer exists and that is mostly because it was given away at the Southern border.


    The question is do you have a “good thing” when minorities are murdered and their murderers gloat and run free?
     
    People are shot for property crimes all over the world all of the time. Very rarely is it considered murder. Why is this different?

    Still waiting:
     
    I ignored what was irrelevant to try to keep this on subject, honest and simple. But whatever...

    • How many F-35s is the US giving Iraq, Syria, Iran?
     
    Superpowers give regional powers weapons they have the technical ability to sustain and when they have the military ability to be useful to the superpower. None of those three countries fit both.

    • Why should Likud conduct be excused by comparing it to those Israel routinely condemns?
     
    I never said it should.

    • Does “sniping” mean shooting/killing/maiming unarmed people from a safe distance?
     
    All shooting is best done from a safe distance. That doesn't mean other things should be left undefended though.

    • Is “sniping” “more humane” than water-cannon, tear gas, and other non-lethal restraint?
     
    It is an escalation for when those haven't worked or there's a reasonable assumption that they won't. The former is likely the case here.

    • American media is disproportionately silent in criticism of Likud compared with Israeli media. Why
     
    Why does the Israeli media report more on Israel than the American media reports on Israel?

    Need I actually answer that?

    (To anyone else I missed...apologies, I'm sure your words were very kind but England won on penalties last night so I had better things to think about.)

    Usual psychopathic gibberish
    Your inhumane meter is despicable
    Just like you

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  211. @Tyrion 2
    Reverse image search tells me that both photographs are legitimate.

    The first is passed off as purposefully gross military graduation humour. The whole idea was to make them as offensive as possible. My English school graduation book was somehow much worse than those t-shirts and it even caused a similar scandal. It was, however, indicative of nothing as regards the underlying culture of the school, which was great.

    The second is an airhead reaction to the killing of 3 Israeli boys. It is only non-typical of intercommunal violence in that the girls are pretty.

    Obviously, were I in charge, I'd throw the book at both for adding fuel to the fire. Nonetheless, these behaviours are seen as comments to every single article on Unz.com. They almost always target Jews whether the article is about Jews or not. Yet that doesn't damn the whole of America merely because most commenters are from tbere. Not to me, at least. Nor anyone sensible.

    Indeed the young don’t throw over the gross adolescent brain for quite a long time after we let them vote, drive, drink etc. And then a lot of them find ways to continue to be gross for most of their lives.

    And now for something really important. Please tell me how to do the reverse search.

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    Download any picture then upload it here: https://reverse.photos.
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  212. Kolo says:
    @Rogue
    Nope, not really. I've been checking out revisionist stuff on WW2 and the Holocaust for quite a few years now.

    So I think it's possible that a lot or most of the official narrative is certainly questionable, but there are other factors to consider.

    The Nazi regime (or at least the top echelons) was hostile to Christianity, so as far as I'm concerned they were hardly righteous people. They had no problem with euthanising their own German people if they thought them surplus to requirements.

    Also, we all have personal bias - the way we want to see things. Usually when presented with evidence we don't like we tend to ignore it and go back to the more comforting stuff. Cuts both ways, of course.

    As far as the Holocaust is concerned, I think the jury's still out (but I sure do have my doubts on the official version).

    Anyway, my post was about Wally and his supposed "level playing field, no name calling" bs. I mean, he's not exactly Mr neutrality when it comes to the Jews now, is he?

    Hahahahahahahaha
    Once again, dumb as doorbell

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    And you sure come across as being pretty smart ...
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  213. @renfro
    Nose jobs and hair re-dos for Jewish girls have made some more attractive and made a lot of plastic surgeons and cosmetologist rich. ...but in general Jewish girls aren't very attractive compared to other groups.
    Oddly enough the perception of their less attractiveness has persisted thru out and despite the popular cycles of what is considered attractive.

    On my one visit to Israel I thought the IDF girls were pretty attractive. Dammit, if I hadn’t been so slow and clumsy I would be able to post a selfie of me and the little smiley blonde with the machine gun slung around her.

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  214. @Mulegino1
    Absolutely! The Jews (as a collective) are as far from the celestial sphere and as close to the subterranean as the lowest of the aboriginals of the Australian hinterlands- perhaps quite more so, since the aboriginals retain at least a modicum of primitive religiosity, while the Talmudist only the most degenerated and corrupted elements- the absolute counter to authentic spirituality.

    Jewry- as a collective hive devoid of any true spirituality- can no more appreciate a St. Hildegard any more than it can appreciate a St. Thomas, a J.S. Bach, a Fra Angelico or a Tintoretto. Its opposition to nature and to the Logos which authored and governs nature renders it sterile and toxic to culture and society.

    ” Jewry cannot appreciate a JS Bach”

    Felix Mendelson the Jewish romance composer, is known throughout the music world as the individual who brought Bach, who had become more or less forgotten, back into the performance light. Without Mendelson’s attention upon JS Bach, we would have no idea today who he, Bach, even was.

    You simply have no clue as to what you are blathering about.

    AJM

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    What? No more Mensa? Jazz sucks, as does rap!
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  215. @USAF JAG VET
    For someone who is purportedly "Mensa" qualified since 1973, you're not too bright, are you now, Skippy? For your edification, the acronym "USAF" stands for United States Air Force. I would think that someone possessing an exceptional IQ such as yourself would know that, especially if that someone purportedly served in the United States Army. By the way, in case you didn't know, the acronym "IQ" stands for intelligence quotient. Now be a good little boy and go upstairs and eat your din-din. Your mommy is calling you.

    Well you got me this time as I most certainly did misread your title, however JAG in army jargon denotes “Judge advocate corp”, and this led me to assume that you had indeed been one of those army attorney types.

    Attorneys the folks who have brought more injustice and strife to mankind than perhaps any other professional grouping.

    So okay I will now send my gold-embossed “Mensa” certificate back to them with the explanation that some internet barrister has informed me that Mensa was wrong in awarding to my double-digit IQ self said qualification.

    AJM

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    Do those at Mensa only include that, " gold-embossed" part for people that are, Too good for this Planet? Or do all members get it.
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  216. @Incitatus
    “The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots.”

    Correction. They’re unrepentant murderers, empowered by disgusting zealots tolerated (if not pampered) by Likud.

    “But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on”

    The ‘they do it too’ defense? So what? How many F-35s is the US giving Iraq, Syria, Iran?

    Why should Likud conduct be excused by comparing it to those Israel routinely condemns?

    “As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn’t that seem like the most humane way to deal with it?”

    Does “sniping” mean shooting/killing/maiming unarmed people from a safe distance? Without risk to the sniper?

    That’s “more humane” than water-cannon, tear gas, and other non-lethal restraint? For the sniper, perhaps, but for the victim?

    Sounds like the same rationalization murderers used at Babi-Yar.

    “The criticism of Israel in Western media is disproportionately extremely high given the much higher rates of this type of thing in the majority of the rest of the world.”

    American media is disproportionately silent in criticism of Likud compared with Israeli media. Why?

    “I suppose Western anti-Semites see Western countries going down because they are unable to deal with this type of thing and get jealous and want to drag Israel down with them.”

    In other words, Trump should use snipers and live fire on illegal immigrants crossing borders? Wow!

    A worthy contribution to keeping our Jewish friends on the civilised humane side of realism. As I said of the 2003 Iraq invasion about September of that year it was not impossible that we would forgive and forget the crimes and stupidity in 25 years time and effectively shrug off objections to the means because of the ends achieved. So we may all forget the barbarous behaviour of the IDF in recent months if it leads to the overthrow of Hamas and some viable settlement of the Palestinian problem. But it is barbarous and unnecessary (except for that imagined outcome: the overthrow of Hamas). My guess now is that in 15 years time the Gaza situation will look no better than the consequences of the 2003 war seen from 2018.

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  217. anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Youtube Censorship at it again.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPHLKbYRoVM

    Would you care to summarise his boring ramble for us.

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  218. RVBlake says:
    @Robjil
    Yes, it is accurate. Here are some more details about it.

    Purim is celebrated on the 13/14 day of Adar. There is also a special Purim on the 15th of Adar for walled cities like Jerusalem. The Jewish calendar is lunar. So it changes every year on our calendar. It is usually sometime in March in our calendar.


    The Purim story is this. The Old Testament "Book of Esther" is the favorite of the Jews. In Persia, Queen Esther, a Jewess, turns King Ahasueros against Haman who is arrested. Haman is said to be an enemy of the Jews and is therefore hanged along with his 10 sons. Also, 70,000 of Haman's followers are rounded up and killed. The Jews celebrate this mass slaughter each year during their feast of Purim.

    Five hundred before this, the Amaleks, a tribe of people, attacked the Israelites. Yahweh told the Israelites to massacre every Amalek -man,women,child and also the livestock. Agag, an Amalek, survived. Saul allowed him to live. Five hundred years later, Agag’s descendant was Haman. Deborah Lipstadt called David Irving Agag, an enemy of the modern day “Israelites”. People who are “enemies” of the Israelites are called Amaleks or Agag.

    Some Purim “timings”


    1953 Stalin “dies” - poisoned or induced stroke - March 1 1953 – Purim


    1991 Purim - 100 hour war on the Highway Feb 24- 27– mass killing by bombs of surrendering Iraqi soldiers from the air by the US air force. Purim Feb. 27/28

    1994 – Baruch Goldstein shoots up Palestinians in mosque. He kills 29 and wounds 125. March 25 – Purim

    2003 Purim – Bush says "we will decide" the day of our reckoning when "we" attack Iraq. Wonder of wonders the eve of Purim was “chosen”. March 17 Saddam warned. March 18 bombing began over Iraq. Purim March 17/18 that year.

    2011 Purim Libya attacked. March 19 “enforcement” of the “no fly zone” by NATO begins. Purim March 19/20.

    Dresden happened on the first day/moon of Adar in 1945.

    Also Julius Streicher and ten National Socialists leader were hung on Oct 16 1946. It was a Jewish holiday too - Hoshana Rabba. This is the day that the God seals verdicts for Rosh Hashana for the coming year. All other National Socialists were shot. Ten to be hung is related to the Purim story. Julius Streicher before he was hung yelled "Purim fest 1946". He knew the game.

    https://www.jta.org/2003/03/18/life-religion/features/rabbis-purim-iraq-war-linked

    NATO commenced bombing the Yugoslav Republic on March 24, 1999 and stopped on June 10, 1999, reportedly to halt the ethnic cleansing of Albanians in the province of Kosovo. NATO did this without the approval of the UN, anticipating a veto vote by Russia and China. Would this time period have been on Purim?

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  219. @Tyrion 2
    It is not "whataboutery" to point out that Israel is less "an Apartheid state" than practically every Asian and African country. Not if part of the definition of "Apartheid" is that is an 'especial evil'.

    Since the model for apartheid is South Africa’s segregating large parts of its population by pushing people of common race or ethnicity into Bantustans and restricting their rights in the rest off South Africa it is easy to see why Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is compared to Apartheid… BUT where in Asia or Africa is there anything comparable?

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    Pick 3 Asian or African countries and we can explore how they're no less Apartheid than Israel. Or anyone pick three.

    Even Singapore runs a system of what are essentially slave visas. Normal people are too precious to be allowed to sit in the back of a pick-up truck for transport. Those on the lower visas are encouraged to.

    Or look at the total defeat of the Tibetans.

    Or the slave markets for infidels in Iraq.

    Or the ever-running conflict in Turkey.

    Or even the Chinese in Malaysia.

    Or the Anglophones in Cameroon.

    Etc.

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  220. @MacNucc11
    God help Jews and Backs if jazz music is all they have to recommend them, lol. Luckily many are quite talented in acting though I hate most Hollywood productions for their crass depravity.
    I am also pretty well sick of seeing Nazis in every damn movie. Oh, goodie, they mixed it up and just went after the Germans in the new Wonder Woman. Yippee. Still won't go see it.

    ” God help Jews and blacks if jazz music is all they have to recommend them, lol”

    You obviously have no clue as to the existance, or the contents of the grandios so-called : “Great American songbook”, to which jewish composers have afforded a huge contribution.

    The “Great American songbook” is not about Jazz per se’, even though it’s tunes are indeed often employed within the execution of jazz music.

    The “Great American songbook involves “Americana”, love stories and tragedy, all within an American context.

    AJM

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  221. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Wally
    The pictures are where?

    And BTW, converts don't count. LOL.

    Mother Teresa was no doubt "beautiful" too.

    https://www.biography.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cg_face%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_300/MTE1ODA0OTcxODAxNTQ0MjA1/mother-teresa-9504160-1-402.jpg

    No pictures unfortunately. Just some very intense memories.

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  222. Rogue says:
    @Kolo
    Hahahahahahahaha
    Once again, dumb as doorbell

    And you sure come across as being pretty smart …

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  223. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz
    Indeed the young don't throw over the gross adolescent brain for quite a long time after we let them vote, drive, drink etc. And then a lot of them find ways to continue to be gross for most of their lives.

    And now for something really important. Please tell me how to do the reverse search.

    Download any picture then upload it here: https://reverse.photos.

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    Thanks. It could be useful for making a nitpicking nuisance of myself.
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  224. @Tyrion 2

    What a treat! Did we miss the “moderate and sensible” non-lethal means of restraint that ‘escalated’ to “lethal force”? Please enumerate them. Chronologically.
     
    I haven't seen a good account of what happened in the day either, but I assume the IDF followed the escalation drills which every modern army learns.

    With respect, the question is not willingness to defend a “good thing” with lethal force. Was the survival of Israel (which I support) ever in doubt? Is the survival of the US in doubt?
     
    Yes. Either you have a border you can enfore or you don't. Either you have a nation or you don't.

    Of course now you will say "but America still exists" but that is to fetishise the name at the expense of its actual meaning. What America was no longer exists and that is mostly because it was given away at the Southern border.


    The question is do you have a “good thing” when minorities are murdered and their murderers gloat and run free?
     
    People are shot for property crimes all over the world all of the time. Very rarely is it considered murder. Why is this different?

    Still waiting:
     
    I ignored what was irrelevant to try to keep this on subject, honest and simple. But whatever...

    • How many F-35s is the US giving Iraq, Syria, Iran?
     
    Superpowers give regional powers weapons they have the technical ability to sustain and when they have the military ability to be useful to the superpower. None of those three countries fit both.

    • Why should Likud conduct be excused by comparing it to those Israel routinely condemns?
     
    I never said it should.

    • Does “sniping” mean shooting/killing/maiming unarmed people from a safe distance?
     
    All shooting is best done from a safe distance. That doesn't mean other things should be left undefended though.

    • Is “sniping” “more humane” than water-cannon, tear gas, and other non-lethal restraint?
     
    It is an escalation for when those haven't worked or there's a reasonable assumption that they won't. The former is likely the case here.

    • American media is disproportionately silent in criticism of Likud compared with Israeli media. Why
     
    Why does the Israeli media report more on Israel than the American media reports on Israel?

    Need I actually answer that?

    (To anyone else I missed...apologies, I'm sure your words were very kind but England won on penalties last night so I had better things to think about.)

    You seem not to have noticed that there were two similar sanguinary episodes a couple of weeks apart handled in exactly the same way without learning any lessons from the first experience.

    Let’s look at what should have been understood in the second occasion at worst.

    1. The mostly (by far) unarmed civilians demonstrated and made a few symbolic gestures reflecting their claim that they were entitled to return to their families’ lands, but none actually entered territory outside Gaza. If a bunch of unpredictable hoodlums were behaving equivalently near the fence of a householder with, say, four adult males at home and armed with rifles it would be murder if one of the armed defenders fired over the defence to kill one of the hoodlums. If one jumped or broke down the fence then it would be an arguable though not certain defence to a charge of murder if the intruder was immediately shot and killed.

    2. Even if the Palestinians had broken through the fence it should be noted that it would not have been like an incipient home invasion let alone a threat to Israeli security. After all it is not as though there are Israeli residential suburbs anywhere near the Gaza border. But suppose they had broken through the fence rather than just tossed some totally ineffectual missiles over it. Suppose some protestors had broken through and were brandishing weapons. Then a couple of bursts of machine gun fire would have finished them off and might (just) have been justified. But no such restraint was shown.

    Can you really think of any justification for the way it was handled that doesn’t fall back on an argument that sufficiently determined brutality is the only way to get rid of Hamas and deliver a Palestinian negotiating party that will have to be grateful for whatever it is offered?

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    As far as I can tell, the Palestinians were testing the borders of Israel and the Israelis' resolve to defend those borders.

    If you gather into a big mob and you try to forcibly march over the border to a sensible nation, especially one you love calling for the destruction of, then you can expect to get shot.


    2. Even if the Palestinians had broken through the fence it should be noted that it would not have been like an incipient home invasion let alone a threat to Israeli security.
     
    Yet Israel would have shown that they were unwilling to do what was necessary to maintain their borders. The troubles would have exacerbated exponentially.
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  225. Rogue says:
    @Wally
    OK, big talking "Rogue", check it out for yourself.
    Register at the CODOH Forum and give it your best shot.
    There is no name calling and dodging there. So come on, quit making excuses.
    I'm calling your bluff.

    BTW, Ron Unz's site is obviously completely different in tone and moderation, yet I'm the only one you criticize for language. Give me a bloody break, you're showing your hand.
    I also note that you cannot refute anything that I have posted in this thread and in the many, many other threads at this site where there are a multitude 'holocau$t' debunking posts by me and many others. *

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are laughable, scientifically impossible frauds. See the 'holocaust' scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

    * Try another one:
    'Some Technical and Chemical Considerations about the 'Gas Chambers' of Auschwitz and Birkenau'
    by Master Chemist Germar Rudolf
    http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndgcger.html

    The issue is not about Holocaust or WW2 revision.

    That’s fine. I’m into a lot of it myself and like to keep an open mind.

    However, you can hardly try to pretend you’re some sort of academic neutral when it comes to the Holocaust, or Jews in general, when you never lose an opportunity to say something negative about them, regardless of context.

    For example, you say that Jewish women in Israel are ugly. How do you know? Have you been there? Ive already said I haven’t myself and am only going on hearsay.

    So, anyway, the issue is your obvious bias that doesn’t exactly square with “no name calling, level playing field” yada yada …

    As it is, I have checked out the Codoh sight already.

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    I'm unable to see what the attractiveness or not of jewish women matters.
    Plus, there are jews like the Dutch Hamburger, Dutch prof Frijda, Finkelstein, Pappe, Elias Davidsson, Gilad Atzmon, that are, in my opinion, beyond any reproach.
    Then, I regard the great majority of jews of victims of jewish propaganda.
    The present problems with jews simply are their effort to let the USA dominate the world militarily, and the Israeli effort to cause another war in the ME, that may well escalate into the last world war.
    And of course the Israeli treatment of Palestinians
    , @Wally
    Laughable hasbarist excuse making.
    IOW, you cannot prove that my points about the fake '6,000,000' Jews are wrong so you hope to distract from that fact.
    You are fooling no one with your childish game.

    And indeed Jews deserve to to be ridiculed, they'e earned it. They've been lying about their fake '6,000;000' since at least 1823.
    recommended:
    Lectures on the Holocaust / Controversial Issues Cross Examined
    https://codoh.com/library/document/1196/?lang=en

    The '6,000,000 Jews' lie and the laughing Mexican:
    https://youtu.be/nxbV3RsyQwI

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  226. @geokat62

    If you think Trump is spineless towards Israel, wait until Israel’s next choice for POTUS, Nutty Nikky Haley steals the WH.
     
    Bill Kristol is already drooling:

    https://twitter.com/billkristol/status/1013817845275381762?s=21

    Either Kristol is mad, at least if he thinks Haley could be elected president, or America will have gone collectively mad beyond redemption if it elects her.

    Afterthought, what splitting of the vote could possibly do it? The split would probably be on the right so no help to Haley.

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  227. Sam J. says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I personally would have liked to see Ocasio-Cortez go farther, a lot farther. Israel is a place where conventional morality has been replaced by a theocratically and culturally driven sense of entitlement which has meant that anything goes when it comes to the treatment of inferior Christian and Muslim Arabs
     
    Better to be a minority in Israel than any other Middle Eastern country. The two settlers guilty of arson are disgusting zealots. But their type is exponentially more common in Iraq, Syria, Iran and so on.

    The criticism of Israel in Western media is disproportionately extremely high given the much higher rates of this type of thing in the majority of the rest of the world.

    As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders, doesn't that seem like the most humane way to deal with it? What does Giraldi suggest they do?

    I suppose Western anti-Semites see Western countries going down because they are unable to deal with this type of thing and get jealous and want to drag Israel down with them. I prefer that America follow the example of Matteo Salvini. Giraldi prefers 'abolish borders' Cortez. Indeed, he'd like her to "go a lot farther".

    “…As for sniping the leaders of a huge mob trying to invade your country/storm your borders…”

    Is not the land the Israelis are shooting from Palestinian land in the first place?

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  228. @Winifred
    I'd like to remind Wizard of Oz that Michael Collins Piper, unlike you, did do the research in his book "Final Judgement" (currently being featured on UNZ) and came to an entirely different conclusion to you on the JFK assassination. Of course, the book was barely allowed to see the light of day, thanks to the usual mass Jewish outcry against it, and the author has since died (in strange circumstances, it is said). It's your facile argument that 'has no legs'.
    As for your view that AIPAC is not a foreign lobby, that is just a technical nicety. Why do all aspiring presidential candidates feel compelled to grovel and prostrate themselves before AIPAC on the topic of Israel if it is not a de facto foreign lobby?

    People like you get into trouble with the law because they think they can wave facts around and use what seems common sense to them without bothering to understand the arguments that count. Unless corrected by some seriously learned American lawyer I am confident that the same quality of lawyer who gives rich Jews their tax advice would be telling them not to get fussed about all this registering as a foreign agent business but just to use American money to finance an American think tank (or whatever you like to call it) and lobby for policies that there Israeli friends like. You may well say it (even First Amendment arguments) is a technicality but that is what the law is – with the exception of what juries do.

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  229. @Them Guys
    I do not like nor consider Jazz music, and modern art deco as anything to be so praised as you do.

    If the art you speak of is that modern art where stupid sculptures that 100 persons can say it looks like 300 different things, or some huge million dollar steel off kilter square object that is not quite square, or Detroit's Massive Dark Bronze Joe Louis arm and "black power Fist" pointed at Canada across the Detroit River front. Is your idea of great art works? You can keep it.

    And while you claim to be a fantastic jazz musician, and maybe are, I prefer Rock music and sometimes symphony type concert music.


    I also used to play Bass Guitar, and was very good at it. And could be again with a couple months practice if I desired to do so. No, unlike you I never studied at worlds biggest, best high IQ music schools....Then again, I didn't need to as I am quite able to pick up on and play by ear a song before its done playing on a radio station usually. Some songs take a bit longer if the Bass is complex. But I usually master those songs quickly also.


    And regardless which negro or jew did this or that, NOBODY has invented or done so much as euro whiteys period. Most of what todays Israel, like China has and does is a direct due to being handed it free from America or they Stole the patents and blueprints, again from usa sources.


    So think what you will, but as I said I do Not like nor enjoy Jazz music, wont listen to it as it causes me to feel similar as does negro Rapp crap. And as far as modern art goes that too makes me feel edgy and is just too ugly to enjoy. Its mainly a kommie Marxist agenda to replace beautiful art works and age old church type buildings with mostly stupid square bland looking stuff.


    That's what most typical jew homes look like where I mostly worked in and at for 25 years, in Bloomfield, Birmingham, and other Detroit Suburb areas jews mainly live in.


    They seem to love goofy square block like connected parts to make a home with, and all with flat roofs...Similar to Israeli jew dwellings. Pure Ugly period. Modern maybe but still very ugly too look at. A few do have normal type homes but most do not. I worked in them all.


    Those ugly square flat roof homes look a lot like the art works on the walls inside those homes. How one can pay huge $$$ for such ugly and misshaped paintings or sculptures is amazing to me.

    But so is paying to hear Jazz music. Too Off Beat and goofy sounding. Blues, and older black blues yeah good music.

    ps: I bet you have a huge copy of your claimed mensa IQ stats hung on a liv room wall for All to see eh. And if not? Why Not? That way you wont need to keep telling everyone your IQ rate, they can see it displayed on a wall like modern art.

    ” I do not like or enjoy jazz music”.

    So goody for you as millions of other folks world-wide do in fact love jazz music, and prefer it over crude two chord rock : music for simpletons.

    “I bet you have a huge copy of your claimed mensa IQ stats hung on liv room wall”

    No I do however still have the gold-embossed mensa acceptance certificate, which I have held since 1973, and have a nice day, plus a hearty touche’

    AJM

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    Well there you go eh...The Mensa gold embossed cert, makes you just too good for this planet.

    It now may be okay to just add this to that. Jazzboy's too good for planet earth!


    Then unz forum can take a Poll on it.
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  230. @Tyrion 2
    Download any picture then upload it here: https://reverse.photos.

    Thanks. It could be useful for making a nitpicking nuisance of myself.

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  231. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz
    You seem not to have noticed that there were two similar sanguinary episodes a couple of weeks apart handled in exactly the same way without learning any lessons from the first experience.

    Let's look at what should have been understood in the second occasion at worst.

    1. The mostly (by far) unarmed civilians demonstrated and made a few symbolic gestures reflecting their claim that they were entitled to return to their families' lands, but none actually entered territory outside Gaza. If a bunch of unpredictable hoodlums were behaving equivalently near the fence of a householder with, say, four adult males at home and armed with rifles it would be murder if one of the armed defenders fired over the defence to kill one of the hoodlums. If one jumped or broke down the fence then it would be an arguable though not certain defence to a charge of murder if the intruder was immediately shot and killed.

    2. Even if the Palestinians had broken through the fence it should be noted that it would not have been like an incipient home invasion let alone a threat to Israeli security. After all it is not as though there are Israeli residential suburbs anywhere near the Gaza border. But suppose they had broken through the fence rather than just tossed some totally ineffectual missiles over it. Suppose some protestors had broken through and were brandishing weapons. Then a couple of bursts of machine gun fire would have finished them off and might (just) have been justified. But no such restraint was shown.

    Can you really think of any justification for the way it was handled that doesn't fall back on an argument that sufficiently determined brutality is the only way to get rid of Hamas and deliver a Palestinian negotiating party that will have to be grateful for whatever it is offered?

    As far as I can tell, the Palestinians were testing the borders of Israel and the Israelis’ resolve to defend those borders.

    If you gather into a big mob and you try to forcibly march over the border to a sensible nation, especially one you love calling for the destruction of, then you can expect to get shot.

    2. Even if the Palestinians had broken through the fence it should be noted that it would not have been like an incipient home invasion let alone a threat to Israeli security.

    Yet Israel would have shown that they were unwilling to do what was necessary to maintain their borders. The troubles would have exacerbated exponentially.

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    Wrong. Not "testing Israel borders"...Rather it has been an Ongoing yearly event for at least past 8-10 years iirc. With the Main reason being to raise global awareness of the Palistinians Plight, and also of their actual factual truthful Return Rights.

    People 300+Yards away from, and running farther away to avoid the Fanatical and Unquenchable Blood Lust Thirst, Jew IDF soldiers have been brainwashed with, since they were at the age of ONE Day Old. And got their first taste of it directly through their jewish mother's breast milk.


    And still getting Shot in the Back, as many were, is NOT invading or entering or attempting to cross a border fence, that has been built ON Stolen Palestine Lands.


    Ironic how I saw a recent, maybe in past 90 days, article about the percentage of Israeli Jewry that are Religious jews. And IIRC, the percent number of Atheist jew citizens and residing within Israel.


    Was something like 67% atheist jews. I say ironic, since I too have met many American jews that claim they also are atheists. Yet in Every instance that I have asked them the question of.


    "So What makes you as a jew think or believe you or other jews has some type ever lasting "Right to Return" to Palestine lands, which you jews call, Israel"?


    Every one, Every time, answers back with: "Well God gave Us jews that right and the land"


    They never seem to supply a good answer when I then ask: "So you as a jew admit being an atheist, yet you also state that, the god you don't believe in, Gave jews land and rights to go there when ever a jew feels like going and remain as long as that jew wishes to remain?"


    Typically they remain answerless and silent, or most just call me a vile name like "Nazi jew hater" or an " anti-Semite Nazi racist".


    IIRC there are also a Huge percentage of American jews that are also self defined as atheists, and I'd wager they too claim that a god they do not believe exists, somehow Gave land rights, like a Real Estate agent, to jews.


    It does not suprize me since most jews in america, and israel also fully believe in every phony holyhoax claim ever claimed by so called "survivors" eh. It seems jews are always trying to out do each other when the issue is anything to do with that holyhoax, germany, germans, euro white folk, and making vast excuses for crooked and evil jews. They try to out do each other by conjuring up and inventing even bigger frauds and lies, as if it somehow makes a jew more virtuous to be considered as the biggest and best jewish fanatic and liar among jews.


    Perhaps the unz-jazzman should pull a few strings, and get all these jews their very own Mensa Gold Embossed Certificate's. Due to jews being so able to invent so many huge lies etc. Maybe a usa Patent also for the jew invention of calling everyone jews hate, a nazi and antisemite eh.
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  232. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz
    Since the model for apartheid is South Africa's segregating large parts of its population by pushing people of common race or ethnicity into Bantustans and restricting their rights in the rest off South Africa it is easy to see why Israel's treatment of Palestinians is compared to Apartheid... BUT where in Asia or Africa is there anything comparable?

    Pick 3 Asian or African countries and we can explore how they’re no less Apartheid than Israel. Or anyone pick three.

    Even Singapore runs a system of what are essentially slave visas. Normal people are too precious to be allowed to sit in the back of a pick-up truck for transport. Those on the lower visas are encouraged to.

    Or look at the total defeat of the Tibetans.

    Or the slave markets for infidels in Iraq.

    Or the ever-running conflict in Turkey.

    Or even the Chinese in Malaysia.

    Or the Anglophones in Cameroon.

    Etc.

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    None of these countries lays pretense on being a democracy as well as being the "most moral" and the "most victimized." None of these countries has ever reached the level of parasitism that Israel enjoys.
    How much have the Jews extracted from Germany and the US because of the "exceptional" Jewish morality and the "incomparable" Jewish sufferings?
    What your numerous (and deeply hypocritical) museums are about -- "never again?" If you agree with the "lesson," then you need to do some reevaluation of theocratic Israel's apartheid policies.
    , @DB Cooper
    "Or look at the total defeat of the Tibetans."

    You are right. Tibetans in South Tibet today are living under a law that allows the state to detain or kill anyone with impunity. The law is meant to intimidate the locals and suppress dissent. In 1951, four years after the British Raj has left, India invaded and annexed South Tibet, including Tawang and occupy it to this day. Tawang is the birthplace of the Sixth Dalai Lama and home to a four hundred years old Tibetan monastery. In case you couldn't locate South Tibet the place was renamed by India to the so called Arunachal Pradesh in 1987 and made a state. In 2009 occupied South Tibet (so called Arunachal Pradesh) officially becomes a United Nation recognized disputed territory.
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  233. @Sam Shama
    Back to the traditional feedlot.

    Back to the traditional feedlot.

    Sez another “eternal victim.”

    BTW, speaking of “tradition,” how’s them thar “holycaust” memorials coming, Sammy? And do they fund ‘em with debt or only extorted or stolen funds?

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  234. Momus says:
    @Wally
    What, or who gives you the impression that "Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ"?

    I can only guess.

    If Jews were really so smart they would have conjured up a better, more believable story than their impossibly fake & stupid '6,000,000 & gas chambers'.

    www.codoh.com

    Benthic Wally

    What, or who gives you the impression that “Ashkenazi Jews might have a higher IQ”?

    This might be a start:

    “As of 2017, Nobel Prizes have been awarded to 892 individuals, of whom 201 or 22.5% were Jews, although the total Jewish population comprises less than 0.2% of the world’s population. This means the percentage of Jewish Nobel laureates is at least 112.5 times or 11,250% above average.”

    DeBeers, the South African Ashkenazi Jew diamond floggers, were credited with the 20th centuries best advertising campaign for turning a useful, very hard industrial mineral into the highest of high end luxury gemstones and essential bride’s gift.

    In the same way that diamonds now exist as an object of unimpeachable value so does the Holocaust. The almost universal acceptance of the 6 million figure may be the second best marketing effort of the last 100 years.

    Me, I know that Hitler’s Nazis set up the ideological and physical apparatus of their attempts to exterminate European Jewry but I cannot be sure of the numbers murdered. You, on the other hand, by mentioning the 6 million are carrying the water for the Holocaust historians. Thank you.

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    “As of 2017, Nobel Prizes have been awarded to 892 individuals, of whom 201 or 22.5% were Jews, although the total Jewish population comprises less than 0.2% of the world’s population. This means the percentage of Jewish Nobel laureates is at least 112.5 times or 11,250% above average.”

    If you measure or estimate the average IQ of these Nobel Prize winners, it is about 150. IQ 156 is about 1/6000, so any nation with 6 million people has enough high IQ people to take all 892 prizes. Clearly, they do not give Nobel Prizes for having a high IQ. They give them for extraordinary results, which are acknowledged by other scientists. Put one IQ 150 person to herd sheep for whole his life and you can be sure that he will not get any Nobel Prize. You have to be in a place that has the facilities, like in a top university or research center. They you have to have peers, who will support you for the Nobel Prize. This all has very little do do with your IQ. It has more to do that you get good education, get to a right research group, get funding for your research and have colleagues who support you for the Prize. In all that friends can help a lot.
    , @Wally
    said:
    "In the same way that diamonds now exist as an object of unimpeachable value so does the Holocaust. The almost universal acceptance of the 6 million figure may be the second best marketing effort of the last 100 years.
    Me, I know that Hitler’s Nazis set up the ideological and physical apparatus of their attempts to exterminate European Jewry but I cannot be sure of the numbers murdered. You, on the other hand, by mentioning the 6 million are carrying the water for the Holocaust historians."

    Indeed, witchcraft was a universally accepted fact, as was a flat earth, and sea monsters.
    Lots of "eyewitnesses" & court cases too. LOL

    Then of course you cannot tell us how the scientifically impossible 'Nazi gas chambers' supposedly worked.

    But hey, you think that 'the Nazis' magically made the remains of an alleged 11,000,000 disappear by using a cement mixer said to be a 'bone grinding machine'. LOL.

    https://codoh.com/media/files/images/ih-5-3-bone_crushing_machine.png

    everyone, see:
    The Bone Mill of Lemberg : https://codoh.com/library/document/3220/?lang=en
    also recommended:
    'Some Technical and Chemical Considerations about the 'Gas Chambers' of Auschwitz and Birkenau', by Master Chemist Germar Rudolf: http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndgcger.html

    www.codoh.com

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  235. @DESERT FOX
    Zero/0. The Zionist controlled MSM could give lessons to Goebbels, and the Zionists have control of every facet of the U.S. gov and the MSM and the BANKS via the FED, we are a plantation for the Zionists.

    Another example of the Zionist controlled MSM is Afghanistan where Americans are guarding the poppy fields for the CIA/MOSSAD/MI6 drug running ops , but the Americans think we are bringing democracy , hell we don't have democracy here, it is ORWELL on steroids.

    The Zionist controlled MSM could give lessons to Goebbels

    Actually, the Zionists and Commies of the time DID provide lessons and examples for Goebbels. He was merely expressing astonishment at how effective they had been, not inventing the concept. As usual the freaks turned the facts around to make it sound as if Goebbels initiated the concepts of propaganda and brainwashing and the false charge sticks to this day, and none of Geobbels’ propaganda had any effect whatsoever on the thinking of the masses outside Germany, while the Commie variety infected the vast masses worldwide.

    In fact, the Nazis were new to the game of mass BS and pikers compared to the banker backed Reds. The names of Bernays and Munzenberg, for example, can and should be associated with effective propaganda instead, but notice that they aren’t. That fact itself is a fine example of effective propaganda.

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    Correct, and here is an example of it.

    “THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.”
    –Edward Louis Bernays, “Propaganda” 1928. Jew Bernays was a nephew of Sigmund Freud.

    “Whilst large sections of the German nation were struggling for the preservation of their race, we Jews filled the streets of Germany with our vociferations. We supplied the press with articles on the subject of its Christmas and Easter and administered to its religious beliefs in the manner we considered suitable. We ridiculed the highest ideals of the German nation and profaned the matters which it holds sacred.”
    – Dr. Manfred Reifer, a well-known leader of the jews of Bukovina, wrote in the Jewish magazine Czernowitzer Allegemeine Zeitung (September 1933).Wow, same year, 1933 international jews Declared WAR against and On Germany! Another Cohencidence eh!


    What,Goebbels was really doing was to inform german people How and What methods bolshevik commie jews do and did.

    But most every time you see some brainwashed idiot on some web forum post about him and Hitler's speeches, they Only post or include various Out of context parts that make it look as if Goebbels was telling German folks of how he and hitler and Nazis planed to get the german vote so to then destroy german folks and ruin their kids minds etc.

    Its all BS to the Max. And when read in its full entire page long text, he was informing and Warning his german fellow citizens of jewish methods of crimes and scams and Bolshevik blood lust madness.

    These same forum clowns also use as an answer when asked "So if so many german folks were so smart and so efficient and such great industrialists and inventors, as well as being worlds best perfectionists. Then Why did Nazis get such huge margin of total Vote's"?


    Clown idiot answer: "Oh German people were Hypnotized! and Mesmerized! because of every time Hitler gave a big speech to crowds of multi-millions, He Waved his hands and Arms wildly about, and this is what caused most every attendee of his speech to get so hypnotized and mesmerized and then to blindly vote for Nazi party."


    Right, such intelligent, perfectionists, and inventors, and great peoples, them germans got hypnotized whenever some guy Waved his arms and hands thru the air as he spoke.


    Gee I wonder if the Nazis also gave those german peoples a small dose of that "Special Secret Added chemical, the Nazis invented to cause Gassed jews to remain alive an extra TEN Minuets, so they could act and walk Zombified like. To dug ditches, where the "secret" chem. gas additive" wore off so gassed jews can Then simply Fall Dead into ditch and this sped up burial process" (from a 1940-41 Polish underground resistance newspaper alert release, I no longer have exact quote of).


    Yes, any Nazi smart enough to invent a "secret gas additive" that Delays Death ten full minuets, and causes a jewish zombified state so gassed jews can do the zombie-slow-walk, to dug ditches, then simply keel over dead and Fal