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The analysis of the recent exchanges between French President Emmanuel Macron and President Donald Trump suggest that Washington is most likely about to withdraw from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) nuclear agreement with Iran that was signed by the U.S. and five other governments in July 2015. The decision will likely be made public before the deadline on re-ratifying the agreement, which is May 12th. As one informed observer has noted, “a train wreck is probably coming, with very damaging consequences that are hard to predict.”

Macron was polite, both in his meeting with Trump and during his speech before Congress, not hammering on the unimaginable awfulness of the White House decision while also offering an alternative, i.e. cooperation with the United States to improve the nuclear agreement while also supporting the principle that it is worth saving. Whether that subtle nudge, coupled with a pledge that Iran will never get a nuclear weapon, will be enough to change minds either in Congress or the White House is questionable as the unfortunate truth is that going to war with Iran is popular among the policy makers and media for the usual reason: it is a major foreign policy objective of the Israeli government and its powerful U.S. lobby.

Iran has been vilified for decades in the American media and it rarely gets a fair hearing anywhere, even when its behavior has not been particularly objectionable. Currently, it is regularly demonized by the Israelis and their supporters over its apparent plan to create an arc of Shi’a states extending through Iraq and Syria to Lebanon, a so-called “land bridge” to the Mediterranean Sea. What that would accomplish exactly has never really been made clear and it assumes that the Syrians and Iraqis would happily surrender their sovereignty to further the project.

The Iranians for their part have made it clear that no modification of the agreement is possible. They note, correctly, that the JCPOA was not a bilateral commitment made between Tehran and Washington. It also included as signatories Russia, China, France, Britain and the European Union and was ratified by the United Nations (P5+1). They and others also have noted that U.S. exit from the agreement will mean that other nations will negotiate with Washington with the understanding that a legal commitment entered into by the President of the United States cannot be trusted after he is out of office.

Under the JCPOA, Iran agreed to eliminate its stockpile of medium-enriched uranium, cut its stockpile of low-enriched uranium by 98%, and reduce by two-thirds the number of its gas centrifuges for 13 years. For the next 15 years, Iran will only enrich uranium up to non-weapons level of 3.67%. Iran also pledged not to build any new heavy-water facilities and to limit uranium-enrichment activities for research and medical purposes to a plant using old technology centrifuges for a period of 10 years. To guarantee compliance with the agreement, Iran accepted the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) proposal that it have highly intrusive access by a team of unannounced inspectors of all the country’s nuclear facilities. In return, Iran was to receive relief from U.S., European Union, and United Nations Security Council sanctions, an aspect of the agreement that the United States has never fully complied with.

Trump’s objection to the agreement is that it is a “bad deal” that virtually guarantees that Iran will have a nuclear weapon somewhere down the road. There is, however, no factual basis for that claim and that it is being made at all is largely reflective of Israeli and Israel Lobby propaganda. It is, on the contrary, an American interest not to have another nuclear proliferator in the Middle East in addition to Israel, which Washington has never dared to confront on the issue. The JCPOA agreement guarantees that Iran will not work to develop a weapon for at least ten years which is a considerable benefit considering that Tehran, if it had chosen to initiate such a program, could easily have had breakout capability in one year.

The U.S. and Israel are also expressing concern about Iranian ballistic missile capability. Again, ballistic missiles would appear to be a weapon that Israel alone seeks to monopolize in its neighborhood because it seeks to regard itself as uniquely threatened, that is, always the victim. It is an argument that sells well in the U.S. Congress and in the media, which has apparently also obtained traction in the White House. It is nevertheless a fake argument contrived by the Israelis. The missiles under development do not in any way threaten the United States and they were not in any event part of the agreement and should not be considered a deal breaker.

Ironically, the JCPOA is approved of by most Americans because it prevents the development of yet another potentially hostile nuclear armed power in a volatile part of the world. American Jews, in fact, support it more than other Americans, according to opinion polls. Even the generals in the Pentagon favor continuing it as do U.S. close allies Germany, France and Britain. The ability of Israel and its Lobby to dominate U.S. foreign policy formulation in certain areas is thereby exposed for what it is: sheer manipulation of our system of government by a small group dedicated to the interests of a foreign government using money and the political access that money buys to achieve that objective.

Those who argue that the withdrawal of the U.S. from JCPOA will be countered by the continued cooperation of the other signatories to the agreement are, one might unfortunately note, somewhat delusional. The U.S. has tremendous leverage in financial markets. If it chooses to sanction Iran over its missiles while also re-introducing the old sanctions relating to the nuclear developments, it would be a brave European or Asian banker who would risk being blocked out of the American market by lending money or selling certain prohibited goods to the Iranians. The United States could force the entire JCPOA quid pro quo agreement to collapse, and that might be precisely what the White House intends to do.

Add into the equation the clearly expressed and oft-times repeated Israeli intention to begin a war with Iran, starting in Syria, sooner rather than later, a disaster for American foreign policy is developing that might well make Iraq and Afghanistan look like cake walks. Iran will surely strike back in response either to the termination of the JCPOA or to Israeli bombing of its militiamen and surrogates in Syria. America forces in the region will surely be sucked into the conflict by Israel and will wind up taking the fall. Someone should tell Donald Trump that there are real world consequences for breaking agreements and rattling sabers. But who will tell him? Will it be John Bolton or Nikki Haley or Mike Pompeo? I doubt it.

[This article was written before Benjamin Netanyahu came out with his Powerpoint presentation of lies and half truths to justify demonizing Iran over its non-existent nuclear weapons program. He failed to mention that Israel has a 200 nuke arsenal undeclared and is not a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). Iran has no weapons, is a signatory and is subject to unannounced inspections of all its sites. Bibi is attempting to pound the last nail in the coffin of the JCPOA by convincing a clueless Trump that he should walk away from the deal. He apparently will be successful. For those who are interested, Scott Ritter has dissected and dismissed the Israeli claims (http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/iranian-nukes-scaremongering-netanyahu-strikes-again/). I note in passing that there are several new hasbara chiming in on this article, perhaps a sign that they are getting nervous over the increased criticism that has been getting leveled against the rogue self-proclaimed Jewish State since it starting shooting Gazans and agitating for a war against Iran.]

Philip M. Giraldi, Ph.D., is Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, a 501(c)3 tax deductible educational foundation that seeks a more interests-based U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Website is www.councilforthenationalinterest.org address is P.O. Box 2157, Purcellville VA 20134 and its email is [email protected].

 
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  1. Nuttenyahoo is in the news again today, this time with “proof” that Iran is acquiring nuclear weapons. Would anyone buy a used car from this man?

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    • Replies: @byrresheim
    Roughly 430 congressmen would by lots of used cars from him.

    Actually there would be black friday style rioting.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    A pity PG published before hearing the latest whether Netanyshu's news is true or false - not that he could have anticipated it.

    I had just come across a circular current affairs email from a former very senior Australian public servant with interests in Foreign Affairs and Treasury matters. I have done my best to extract the relevant parts to paste below. To save time you could go straight to "Netanyahu". I would be interested in your or PG's analysis. It seems unlikely that the documents would all be fake but if some have been "adjusted" you might find yourself searching for the fake as a needle in a haystack.


    Israel’s Discovery of Secret Iranian Nuclear Policy

    It is difficult to understate the importance of Israel’s “discovery” that, after in 2005 Iran signed a deal with the US (under Obama) and major European countries, it did not in fact comply with the agreed restrictions on its nuclear activity in return for the lifting of sanctions which included considerable US dollar “reserves”. The press conference by Israel PM Netanyahu and initial reactions from Trump are reported in the attached Trump on Iran. This report appeared in my inbox at about 10 am this morning but was not mentioned on “our” ABC’s lunch time news. Another one for CEO Michelle Guthrie to explain.

    Israeli PM Netanyahu told the press conference in Jerusalem that “After signing the nuclear deal in 2015, Iran intensified its efforts to hide its secret files,” he said. “In 2017 Iran moved its nuclear weapons files to a highly secret location in Tehran.”It is amazing that Mossad was able to penetrate the Iranian hiding place and then smuggle the 55,000 pages of documents and 183 CDs back to Israel. Netanyahu rightly describes Israel’s ability to acquire the archive as marking “a massive intelligence coup”.

    The “atomic archive” was compiled by Iran with the express purpose of preserving its secretive nuclear weapons plan known as Project Amad, which aimed to “design, produce and test… five warheads, each with a 10 kiloton TNT yield, for integration on a missile. “That is like five Hiroshima bombs to be put on ballistic missiles,” asserted Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu outlined Project Amad as containing five key elements described by the Times of Israel thusly: “Designing

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    Trump Proclaims Netanyahu Announcement on Iran Shows ‘I’ve Been 100% Right’
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    President Donald Trump listens during a news conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel in the East Room of the White House, Friday, April 27, 2018, in Washington. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

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    by MICHELLE MOONS30 Apr 2018Washington, DC2,238

    From a White House Rose Garden podium this afternoon, President Donald Trump declared that he has been “100 percent right” on continued Iran nuclear development and brand new evidence from the Israeli Prime Minister proves that.
    Moments before President Trump and Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari held a joint press conference in the White House Rose Garden on Monday afternoon, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu took to televisionairwaves.

    Netanyahu announced that he was in possession of intelligence that proves Tehran has been running a secret nuclear weapons development program (see report below on what Netanyahu said).

    President Trump was asked about Netanyahu’s announcement moments later during the joint press conference. He was also asked if he had made a decision on whether to pull out of the Iranian nuclear deal and if Trump does decide to pull out, does it send the wrong message to North Korea regarding a potential nuclear deal there.

    “No, I think it sends the right message,” remarked Trump. “In seven years that deal will have expired and Iran is free to go ahead and create nuclear weapons. That’s not acceptable. Seven years is tomorrow.”

    “If anything it’s proven right, what Israel has done today with the news conference and Prime Minister Netanyahu just gave a very … I got to see a little bit of it,” said Trump. “That is just not an acceptable situation.”

    “I’ve been saying that’s happening,” said Trump. “They’re not sitting back idly they’re setting off missiles which they say are for television purposes. I don’t think so.”

    “We’ll see what happens,” said Trump who remarked that many have said they believe they know what he’s going to do, hinting that they believe he is going to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal. A decision on whether to pull out will be made on or before May 12.

    “That doesn’t mean we won’t negotiate a real agreement,” President Trump assured. He added that the current agreement “wasn’t approved by too many people and it’s a horrible agreement for the United States, including the fact, Mr. President [Buhari], that we gave Iran 150 billion dollars and 1.8 billion in cash. Nigeria would like some of that.”

    “You know what we got? We got nothing,” Trump said of the Iran deal.

    Trump concluded, “I think if anything, what’s happening today and what’s happened over the last little while and what we’ve learned has really shown that I’ve been 100 percent right.”

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    Watch: Netanyahu – 100,000 Secret Files Prove Iran ‘Lied Big Time’ About Nukes
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    by AARON KLEIN30 Apr 201811,417

    TEL AVIV — In a dramatic press conference in Jerusalem aimed at the international community, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday unveiled a cache of secret files he says were obtained from inside a hidden Iranian site and clearly demonstrate that Tehran maintained a secret nuclear weapons program despite declarations to the contrary.
    Netanyahu explained that the structure of the U.S.-led international nuclear agreement was in part based on deceptive Iranian descriptions of its previous nuclear work. He said Iran’s failure to disclose its secret program while misleading the world shows the nuclear deal is “based on lies based on Iranian deception.”

    The Israeli leader presented evidence that Iran continued research for a nuclear weapons program even after signing the 2015 nuclear deal.

    “Iran’s leaders repeatedly deny ever pursuing nuclear weapons,” Netanyahu began. “Tonight I’m here to tell you one thing: Iran lied.”

    “After signing the nuclear deal in 2015, Iran intensified its efforts to hide its secret files,” he said. “In 2017 Iran moved its nuclear weapons files to a highly secret location in Tehran.”

    Netanyahu said the secret nuclear files prove the following:

    Iran lied about never having a secret nuclear program. Second, even after the deal it continued to expand its nuclear program for future use. Third, Iran lied by not coming clean to the IAEA. Finally, the nuclear deal is based on lies based on Iranian deception.

    The prime minister’s speech was based on 55,000 pages of documents and 183 CDs that Netanyahu said were smuggled out of an “atomic archive” painstakingly preserving Iran’s secretive nuclear program so that the country would have the option of restarting its nuclear weapons activities after the nuclear deal expires or in the case of Tehran prematurely bolting the agreement. Israel’s ability to acquire the archive marks a massive intelligence coup for the Jewish state.

    “Iran lied. Big time,” Netanyahu said of the half-ton of material obtained by Israel.

    The trove, Netanyahu added, contains “incriminating documents, incriminating charts, incriminating presentations, incriminating blueprints, incriminating photos, incriminating videos and more.”

    He said Israel shared the material with the U.S., and that “the United States can vouch for its authenticity.”

    The “atomic archive” was compiled by Iran with the express purpose of preserving its secretive nuclear weapons plan known as Project Amad, which aimed to “design, produce and test… five warheads, each with a 10 kiloton TNT yield, for integration on a missile.”

    “That is like five Hiroshima bombs to be put on ballistic missiles,” asserted Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu outlined Project Amad as containing five key elements described by the Times of Israel thusly: “Designing nuclear weapons, developing nuclear cores, building nuclear implosion systems, preparing nuclear tests and integrating nuclear warheads on missiles.”

    Netanyahu said that in 2003, Iran shut down the version of Project Amad that existed at the time and instead divided its nuclear program into both covert and overt components. Besides archiving the material for future use, Netanyahu said Iran continued to research nuclear weapons.

    Netanyahu called on President Donald Trump to “do the right thing” as the May 12 deadline to recertify the nuclear agreement approaches.

    “The right thing for the United States. The right thing for Israel. And the right thing for the peace of the world,” he concluded.

    , @El Dato
    The moment you are looking old on TV: Showing off 156 apparently exfiltrated CDs when these can all be put on a single USB stick.
    , @Jake
    Not only would every true-blue WASP Evangelical buy a used car from Bibi, but most would tip him afterward.

    Fruits of the Judaizing heresy Anglo-Saxon Puritanism.
    , @manorchurch

    Would anyone buy a used car from this man?
     
    What? $20,000 for that 2005 Kia? Oh, Bibi, you giveaway artist you! It's worth waaaaaaaay more than that? How about $50,000? Or a $million? No amount is too much for Congress to give YOU, sweet Bibi McCree!
    , @windwaves
    I despise that jew pig, disgusting liar. However, what is worse is the Americans (jews and non jews) who simply will suck jews' genitals any time, all the time for their dirty money. And that is the problem. It is here, here at home in the USA where we need to break the bastards fake Americans, israel-first, true traitors of our country. It is the money connection that the jews have exploited beautifully over the years to enslave America.
    And Americans need to be re-educated (note education also controlled by the israel first pigs).
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  2. llloyd says: • Website

    I am beginning to think the astonishing real capitulation of South Korean Government to North Korea demands and Trump’s acquiescence in this is a prelude to the war on Iran. Now Netanyahu has announced the casus belli. Israel plots its wars and never fights a war on two fronts. hope I am wrong.

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  3. RobinG says:

    “Nuttenyahoo is in the news again today, this time with “proof”…..”

    Just like the WHITE HELMETS have “proof” that there was a gas attack in Douma, Syria.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih7J6jTPSOY&t=12s

    What @VanessaBeeley Saw on Her Trip to #Douma #FaultLines

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  4. RobinG says:

    In SYRIA …..

    In fact, Netanyahu advisor Dror Michman all but admitted an Israeli attack on T-4 earlier this month was designed to provoke an Iranian response.

    The strategy of dragging the US into a regional conflagration couldn’t be more clear.

    HT @GarethPorter

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    "The strategy of dragging the US into a regional conflagration couldn’t be more clear."
    Israel: like a brain tumor or brain parasite, it degenerates its host's reasoning capacity to the point where the host loses all concept of its own personal interests.
    , @El Dato
    Yeah, it's coming in FAT and HEAVY.

    Interestingly, this latest strike does not seem to have been detected or countered by any Syrian air-defense assets. Serious business.
    , @jilles dykstra
    This is not a regional conflagration, as the USA Civil War was not, as the Spanish Civil war was not, as the Korean civil war was not, as the Saudi Yemen conflict is not.
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  5. @NoseytheDuke
    Nuttenyahoo is in the news again today, this time with "proof" that Iran is acquiring nuclear weapons. Would anyone buy a used car from this man?

    Roughly 430 congressmen would by lots of used cars from him.

    Actually there would be black friday style rioting.

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  6. In the last ten hours or so the WH has stated that Iran has a secret nuclear weapons program (rubbish). They subsequently denied they meant what they had said: saying the error was “clerical” and the program was in the past tense (had). Not even Netanyahu tried to deliver this tripe and he was flat out lying about Iran in his Monday presentation.

    So why did the WH do it? We would assume most thinking people believe that the error was no error at all. This is the line Trump/Bolton would like Americans to believe. Even if they can’t get away with the nonsense –sorry guys– they (still) prefer that to telling the truth. It’s what they do: this being a prelude to the nixing of the JCPOA.

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    • Replies: @padre
    Actually, they are doing it all the time.They utter a lie, then deny it, but use it as an excuse later on, as if they didn't deny it at all!
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  7. ” . . . it is a major foreign policy objective of the Israeli government and its powerful U.S. lobby.”

    This was almost too painfully humorous to continue.

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    “Those who argue that the withdrawal of the U.S. from JCPOA will be countered by the continued cooperation of the other signatories to the agreement are, one might unfortunately note, somewhat delusional.”

    I don’t think of myself as delusional – just positive. But I have to note that position shifted when France, Great Britain and Germany as well as Denmark supported attacking Syria. It was then I was sure the chips of their maintaining said agreement had been cashed.

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    Still we are talking about dismissing a lot of financial benefit, I suspect that even Pres Macron hedged his press for a better deal while keeping what's in place considered that potential loss.


    Note:


    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/iranian-nukes-scaremongering-netanyahu-strikes-again/comment-page-1/#comment-8485205
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    " The missiles under development do not in any way threaten the United States and they were not in any event part of the agreement and should not be considered a deal breaker."


    They already tried this argument when those tests were conducted and failed. It's clear as day, such tests are not on the table. Not with this agreement.

    , @Rurik


    ” . . . it is a major foreign policy objective of the Israeli government and its powerful U.S. lobby.”
     
    This was almost too painfully humorous to continue.

     

    why was it painfully humorous, because it's (obviously!) true?

    Germany as well as Denmark supported attacking Syria
     
    other than tepid words about Assad being 'held to account', or made to 'atone', when has Germany ever suggested it would 'green light or 'pull the trigger for an 'attack' on Syria?
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  8. @EliteCommInc.
    " . . . it is a major foreign policy objective of the Israeli government and its powerful U.S. lobby."


    This was almost too painfully humorous to continue.


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    "Those who argue that the withdrawal of the U.S. from JCPOA will be countered by the continued cooperation of the other signatories to the agreement are, one might unfortunately note, somewhat delusional."

    I don't think of myself as delusional - just positive. But I have to note that position shifted when France, Great Britain and Germany as well as Denmark supported attacking Syria. It was then I was sure the chips of their maintaining said agreement had been cashed.

    Still we are talking about dismissing a lot of financial benefit, I suspect that even Pres Macron hedged his press for a better deal while keeping what’s in place considered that potential loss.

    Note:

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/iranian-nukes-scaremongering-netanyahu-strikes-again/comment-page-1/#comment-8485205

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    ” The missiles under development do not in any way threaten the United States and they were not in any event part of the agreement and should not be considered a deal breaker.”

    They already tried this argument when those tests were conducted and failed. It’s clear as day, such tests are not on the table. Not with this agreement.

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  9. “But who will tell him? Will it be John Bolton or Nikki Haley or Mike Pompeo? I doubt it.”

    That is how his previous advisers were caught in a double bind. They supported action in Syria, but not Iran. Yet taking action in Syria was part of taking action against Iran. It appears they got squeezed by their own agenda.

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  10. renfro says:

    I’ve been Bolton watching….he’s fired and replaced almost everyone on Trump’s in house security council and is now firing the homeland security team members.
    Trump , besides being mobbed up with Russian Jewish mafia in his personal business, is now fully Zionized and Neoconned in the WH. He’s also sweating blood over what may come out of Cohen so he’s in the perfect enraged and unbalanced mental state to unload his frustrations by pushing the button on whoever the Jew Fifth Column and Neo psychos tell him to.

    Given the choice between decimating Iran with another ME war and the complete collapse of the US……..I am praying for a 1920′s like total meltdown of WS and the whole financial system.

    That seems to me to be the only possible event other than a bloody revolution that would bring our corrupt and unreformable government to a screeching halt.

    Yep people would suffer some but tough shit….maybe, just maybe they would wake and realize IT’S THE CORRUPTION STUPID….both foreign and domestic.

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    Yep people would suffer some but tough shit….maybe, just maybe they would wake and realize IT’S THE CORRUPTION STUPID….both foreign and domestic.
     
    It's been going on since the beginning and few are yet awake. The few that have a clue have no power not that even they'd have any if they were suddenly joined by the bulk of the masses. Remember, at least 80% of Americans had no beef with either Germany or Japan until provoked by PH.

    The clown classes are on autopilot and as completely unaccountable and irresponsible as ever.

    Damn.

    , @Curmudgeon
    "...I am praying for a 1920′s like total meltdown of WS and the whole financial system."

    The meltdown was manufactured by WS bankers, and was one of the biggest wealth transfers in history. To put it another way, wealth does not disappear, it is transferred.
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  11. utu says:

    Breaking the Iran deal is the only pre-election promise that Trump is going to keep. Not that Trump necessarily knew it or planned it. Trump could be stopped if there was an opposition in this respect. Trump’s decision will approved by Democrats. People in American, including the whole Congress are too afraid to say anything positive and constructive about Iran just as they are too afraid to object to monolithic anti Putin’s Russia narrative that was constructed in last 18 months.

    Everything that took place since the election seems to be a part of the Deep State maneuvering to get Trump exactly to this point. Bombing Syria, conflict with Russia and attack against Iran is the only place where Trump can get fully bi-partisan consensus.

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  12. @NoseytheDuke
    Nuttenyahoo is in the news again today, this time with "proof" that Iran is acquiring nuclear weapons. Would anyone buy a used car from this man?

    A pity PG published before hearing the latest whether Netanyshu’s news is true or false – not that he could have anticipated it.

    I had just come across a circular current affairs email from a former very senior Australian public servant with interests in Foreign Affairs and Treasury matters. I have done my best to extract the relevant parts to paste below. To save time you could go straight to “Netanyahu”. I would be interested in your or PG’s analysis. It seems unlikely that the documents would all be fake but if some have been “adjusted” you might find yourself searching for the fake as a needle in a haystack.

    Israel’s Discovery of Secret Iranian Nuclear Policy

    It is difficult to understate the importance of Israel’s “discovery” that, after in 2005 Iran signed a deal with the US (under Obama) and major European countries, it did not in fact comply with the agreed restrictions on its nuclear activity in return for the lifting of sanctions which included considerable US dollar “reserves”. The press conference by Israel PM Netanyahu and initial reactions from Trump are reported in the attached Trump on Iran. This report appeared in my inbox at about 10 am this morning but was not mentioned on “our” ABC’s lunch time news. Another one for CEO Michelle Guthrie to explain.

    Israeli PM Netanyahu told the press conference in Jerusalem that “After signing the nuclear deal in 2015, Iran intensified its efforts to hide its secret files,” he said. “In 2017 Iran moved its nuclear weapons files to a highly secret location in Tehran.”It is amazing that Mossad was able to penetrate the Iranian hiding place and then smuggle the 55,000 pages of documents and 183 CDs back to Israel. Netanyahu rightly describes Israel’s ability to acquire the archive as marking “a massive intelligence coup”.

    The “atomic archive” was compiled by Iran with the express purpose of preserving its secretive nuclear weapons plan known as Project Amad, which aimed to “design, produce and test… five warheads, each with a 10 kiloton TNT yield, for integration on a missile. “That is like five Hiroshima bombs to be put on ballistic missiles,” asserted Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu outlined Project Amad as containing five key elements described by the Times of Israel thusly: “Designing

    [I lost something here]

    Trump Proclaims Netanyahu Announcement on Iran Shows ‘I’ve Been 100% Right’
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    President Donald Trump listens during a news conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel in the East Room of the White House, Friday, April 27, 2018, in Washington. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

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    by MICHELLE MOONS30 Apr 2018Washington, DC2,238

    From a White House Rose Garden podium this afternoon, President Donald Trump declared that he has been “100 percent right” on continued Iran nuclear development and brand new evidence from the Israeli Prime Minister proves that.
    Moments before President Trump and Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari held a joint press conference in the White House Rose Garden on Monday afternoon, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu took to televisionairwaves.

    Netanyahu announced that he was in possession of intelligence that proves Tehran has been running a secret nuclear weapons development program (see report below on what Netanyahu said).

    President Trump was asked about Netanyahu’s announcement moments later during the joint press conference. He was also asked if he had made a decision on whether to pull out of the Iranian nuclear deal and if Trump does decide to pull out, does it send the wrong message to North Korea regarding a potential nuclear deal there.

    “No, I think it sends the right message,” remarked Trump. “In seven years that deal will have expired and Iran is free to go ahead and create nuclear weapons. That’s not acceptable. Seven years is tomorrow.”

    “If anything it’s proven right, what Israel has done today with the news conference and Prime Minister Netanyahu just gave a very … I got to see a little bit of it,” said Trump. “That is just not an acceptable situation.”

    “I’ve been saying that’s happening,” said Trump. “They’re not sitting back idly they’re setting off missiles which they say are for television purposes. I don’t think so.”

    “We’ll see what happens,” said Trump who remarked that many have said they believe they know what he’s going to do, hinting that they believe he is going to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal. A decision on whether to pull out will be made on or before May 12.

    “That doesn’t mean we won’t negotiate a real agreement,” President Trump assured. He added that the current agreement “wasn’t approved by too many people and it’s a horrible agreement for the United States, including the fact, Mr. President [Buhari], that we gave Iran 150 billion dollars and 1.8 billion in cash. Nigeria would like some of that.”

    “You know what we got? We got nothing,” Trump said of the Iran deal.

    Trump concluded, “I think if anything, what’s happening today and what’s happened over the last little while and what we’ve learned has really shown that I’ve been 100 percent right.”

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    Watch: Netanyahu – 100,000 Secret Files Prove Iran ‘Lied Big Time’ About Nukes
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    by AARON KLEIN30 Apr 201811,417

    TEL AVIV — In a dramatic press conference in Jerusalem aimed at the international community, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday unveiled a cache of secret files he says were obtained from inside a hidden Iranian site and clearly demonstrate that Tehran maintained a secret nuclear weapons program despite declarations to the contrary.
    Netanyahu explained that the structure of the U.S.-led international nuclear agreement was in part based on deceptive Iranian descriptions of its previous nuclear work. He said Iran’s failure to disclose its secret program while misleading the world shows the nuclear deal is “based on lies based on Iranian deception.”

    The Israeli leader presented evidence that Iran continued research for a nuclear weapons program even after signing the 2015 nuclear deal.

    “Iran’s leaders repeatedly deny ever pursuing nuclear weapons,” Netanyahu began. “Tonight I’m here to tell you one thing: Iran lied.”

    “After signing the nuclear deal in 2015, Iran intensified its efforts to hide its secret files,” he said. “In 2017 Iran moved its nuclear weapons files to a highly secret location in Tehran.”

    Netanyahu said the secret nuclear files prove the following:

    Iran lied about never having a secret nuclear program. Second, even after the deal it continued to expand its nuclear program for future use. Third, Iran lied by not coming clean to the IAEA. Finally, the nuclear deal is based on lies based on Iranian deception.

    The prime minister’s speech was based on 55,000 pages of documents and 183 CDs that Netanyahu said were smuggled out of an “atomic archive” painstakingly preserving Iran’s secretive nuclear program so that the country would have the option of restarting its nuclear weapons activities after the nuclear deal expires or in the case of Tehran prematurely bolting the agreement. Israel’s ability to acquire the archive marks a massive intelligence coup for the Jewish state.

    “Iran lied. Big time,” Netanyahu said of the half-ton of material obtained by Israel.

    The trove, Netanyahu added, contains “incriminating documents, incriminating charts, incriminating presentations, incriminating blueprints, incriminating photos, incriminating videos and more.”

    He said Israel shared the material with the U.S., and that “the United States can vouch for its authenticity.”

    The “atomic archive” was compiled by Iran with the express purpose of preserving its secretive nuclear weapons plan known as Project Amad, which aimed to “design, produce and test… five warheads, each with a 10 kiloton TNT yield, for integration on a missile.”

    “That is like five Hiroshima bombs to be put on ballistic missiles,” asserted Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu outlined Project Amad as containing five key elements described by the Times of Israel thusly: “Designing nuclear weapons, developing nuclear cores, building nuclear implosion systems, preparing nuclear tests and integrating nuclear warheads on missiles.”

    Netanyahu said that in 2003, Iran shut down the version of Project Amad that existed at the time and instead divided its nuclear program into both covert and overt components. Besides archiving the material for future use, Netanyahu said Iran continued to research nuclear weapons.

    Netanyahu called on President Donald Trump to “do the right thing” as the May 12 deadline to recertify the nuclear agreement approaches.

    “The right thing for the United States. The right thing for Israel. And the right thing for the peace of the world,” he concluded.

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    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    I'm 99.999% sure that he's lying, I saw a brief clip of him and his lips were moving.

    It would be a wonderful day for peace in the ME if Iran had not 5 but 10 nukes ready to launch. I doubt that they'd be launched but they would serve as an excellent deterrent to Nuttenyahoo's murderous insanity.
    , @prusmc
    So the US gave Iran $150 billion and $1.5 billion in cash and Nigeria would like some of that. A lot of places would like some of that including the deplorables in the US. If it was a waste and a fraud to give it to Iran why repeat the scenario with Nigeria or an of the 140 plus contries/states/ nations seeking a US handout?
    , @chris

    ”It is amazing that Mossad was able to penetrate the Iranian hiding place and then smuggle the 55,000 pages of documents and 183 CDs back to Israel.
     
    I like that: Mossad was able to smuggle the documents "back" to Israel, ... where they originally came from.
    , @anon
    We have created a world where A and master of A can have 1000 to 100 of nukes, where these psychopaths can threaten with nuclear bombs but Iran or Syria can't have nukes.
    This is accecpted as normal by not only the very psychopaths like Netanyahu or Yalom or B'lom or S 'lom or Kagan-Kristol- Kushner-Kaplan-Kruthammer but by the folks going around nonchalantly their daily businesses in local cafe, offices,restaurant,hotel,street shows,school debates,town hall meetings , water fountain discussions in offices and during breaks from works.

    These same sob also say how Muslim imposed dhimmitudes on the rest of non Muslims and how they treated their conquered citizen . One of their favorites is this - Church or Synagogue or teh Temple couldn't be higher than the Mosque in the vicinity. This they use to justify abominable attitude to Muslims which then transform into pre-conscious hatred and animosity to the Arabs/Palestine/Iran.
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  13. Realist says:

    Trump is a nutless, brainless asshole. He truly is a Zionist puppet.

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    You nailed it!
    , @anon
    That makes two of them. Macron is a Rothschild stooge.
    , @renfro
    Wonder which Jew wrote this speech for Trump? Gotta get more vomit bags.


    President Donald Trump Proclaims May Jewish History Month

    May 1, 2018 By JTA


    (JTA) — President Donald Trump proclaimed May Jewish Heritage Month.

    In his statement issued by the White House on Monday, Trump said that “Jewish Americans have helped guide the moral character of our Nation.”

    President George W. Bush first proclaimed May Jewish Heritage Month in 2006, and it has been proclaimed annually by the sitting president ever since.

    The statement also said: “They have maintained a strong commitment to engage deeply in American society while also preserving their historic values and traditions. Their passion for social justice and showing kindness to strangers is rooted in the beliefs that God created all people in his image and that we all deserve dignity and peace.”

    He added that: “Through their actions, they have made the world a better place.”

    Trump also wrote that the “contributions of the Jewish people to American society are innumerable, strengthening our Nation and making it more prosperous,” noting that Jewish Americans have served in all levels of government and served in the U.S. military, as well as contributed to the arts and established philanthropic and volunteer networks. He also noted the Nobel prizes won by Jewish Americans

    Read more: undefined/fast-forward/400110/mahmoud-abbas-jews-caused-holocaust-with-their-social-behavior/
    , @Wally
    The alternative was Hillary.

    Now imagine that.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c2b23f01c561ecf941215052c8d637d0b719a8b18b7fbc0e4401b099d1e0fcf9.jpg?w=600&h=330
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  14. Well, Trump’s trumpeting that he was 100% correct about Iran after Netanyahu’s latest lies about Iran could go in one of two ways:

    1. Despite knowing that Netanyahu is lying through his teeth about Iran’s nuclear aspirations (while avoiding any mention of Israel’s own stolen nukes), Trump could use this as a fig leaf and choose to pull out of the Iran deal. The timing of this coincides with Iran dropping the dollar, the same thing Ghadaffy and Saddam did before getting destroyed. Interestingly, Russia and China may drop the dollar too. It is unlikely that they will pull out of the deal. The UK and France might, but Germany probably won’t as its interests lie with Russia. So, even if the US pulls out of the deal, Iran still wins, and Israel/US become increasingly isolated.

    2. Trump is just blowing smoke and won’t pull out of the deal, or maybe, congress won’t let him. Constitutionally, the Iran deal is a treaty, and I believe congress (Israeli territory) has a say in it – but they have not really been upholding the Constitution, so that may not matter. But, assuming he does not tear up the deal, Iran still wins.

    So, either way the wind blows, it really doesn’t matter to Iran. We are a has-been power.

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    Constitutionally, the Iran deal is a treaty,

    I am not so sure about that. It was never voted on in the affirmative with a 2/3 Senate vote. They had a goofy vote where it only could be undone by a 2/3 Senate vote. Every treaty we seem to have done (like NAFTA) has never followed the Constitution for treaties. They pretend it is something else and only a simply majority in Congress is needed.
    , @Miro23

    Interestingly, Russia and China may drop the dollar too. It is unlikely that they will pull out of the deal.
     
    The alternative for a world Reserve Currency would be the Euro. The Euro block is about the same size economically as the US, it doesn't run big trade deficits and it's a large oil importer (i.e. Saudi Dollar balances could be replaced with Euro balances).

    Problem that the Saudis don't have a choice in the matter - the US forces them to hold Dollars, and the Chinese won't accept the reality that the Yuan is insufficiently traded to make it a world currency.

    So the Russians alone could switch to Euros (require payment for their oil and gas in Euros) which would encourage the Europeans to reduce their Dollar balances. Europeans would in fact need a dual system - reserve Dollars for ME (non-Iranian) oil and reserve Euros for Russian oil and gas.

    This would already be bad for the US financial system, and much worse if third party countries followed the Russian lead.
    , @Momus
    Contact the mother ship mate.
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  15. Macron worked at the Rothschild Bank.

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    Strange how many people believe that France is pursuant of her own national interest in spite of Macron being a zio-bankster puppet. France has been infected by Zionists ever since de Gaulle had to resign and is therefore as untrustworthy as the USA or the UK.
    The French simply play the role the globalist mafia assigns them at any given moment.
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  16. Meanwhile, Israel is poking the Russian bear in Syria by striking at an Iranian depot there, killing many. Whether Russia provided S-300 systems to Syria or not, Iran is likely to provide their own version of the S-300. Israel’s days may be numbered. War clouds darken the skies.

    Something wicked this way comes…

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  17. @RobinG
    In SYRIA .....

    In fact, Netanyahu advisor Dror Michman all but admitted an Israeli attack on T-4 earlier this month was designed to provoke an Iranian response.

    The strategy of dragging the US into a regional conflagration couldn’t be more clear.

    HT @GarethPorter
     

    “The strategy of dragging the US into a regional conflagration couldn’t be more clear.”
    Israel: like a brain tumor or brain parasite, it degenerates its host’s reasoning capacity to the point where the host loses all concept of its own personal interests.

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  18. Thirdeye says:

    Renewed sanctions may or may not shut defiant Asian bankers out of the American market but they sure as hell would shut American banks out of the Asian market. The message would be clear: anyone doing business with an American bank would be subject to arbitrary actions of the US government.

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  19. Brabantian says: • Website

    Big elephant in the room, is Russia’s indulgence of Israel, letting the Israelis kill Iranians and others in Syria, as they just did despite Vladimir Putin’s empty ‘warning’ to Netanyahu … Putin who refuses to give Syria Russia’s advanced missile defences that would block Israeli attacks on his alleged ‘ally’

    A sentiment amongst Arabs & MidEast Muslims is that you cannot trust the white or European governments, they may help you in part out of self-interest (e.g., Russia in Syria), but they seem to always cut a deal with Israel

    V. Putin always chummy with ‘Putin’s Rabbi’ Berel Lazar of the Mossad-tied Chabad Jewish religious cult, Putin a ‘Russo-Zionist’ who has Unz’s ‘The Saker’ Andrei Raevsky distracting from Putin’s deep Israeli ties

    But then there is Netanyahu’s powerful new presentation re Iran

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    Putin is weak. Put pressure on him and he folds. Any people who trusts an outsider are stupid--sadly, Arabs, in particular, and Muslim, in general, keep doing this over and over again. Insanity? Dumb Arabs got snookered by Lawrence of "Arabia"/Britain into fighting Turkish Muslims. Now those Arabs are "enjoying" life under the American jackboot.
    , @James Brown
    "Big elephant in the room, is Russia’s indulgence of Israel"

    There is no elephant in the room. Russia is in Syria because Putin was invited by his friend and war criminal, The King of Israel. Russia is playing the bad/good cop role.
    Only a fool can't see that.

    "A sentiment amongst Arabs & MidEast Muslims is that you cannot trust the white or European governments"

    If the Arabs themselves are in bed with European and American governments, I don't believe that is correct to say that "sentiment" exist.

    Maybe among some young honest Arabs, who are irrelevant.

    Even The House Saud, the "protector of Islam's holiest sites" is in the bed with the enemies of Arabs/Islam. She has always been. Today, only those we are willingly blind, can't see it.

    The House of Saud is as much Muslim as American Presidents are Christians. or Tony Blair is a Christian.

    Again, only naîve readers take "The Saker" seriously.
    The man is not only a bad writer but a very bad propagandist. Same standard of Propaganda than MSM.

    Paul Craig Roberts is more intelligent and a better writer than "The Saker", but he is so obssessed with the tree that he refuses to see the forest.
    PCR is a religious man. Sometimes beliefs impede you to see the reality.

    , @Cold N. Holefield
    Russia & Israel are Birds of a Feather as far as I'm concerned. They both make EVERYTHING about them. It's ALL about them. Always. How they're a People. A Proud People with a Proud Heritage. Blah blah blah blah.....ad nauseum.

    Both of them also play the Victim Card in perpetuity and as cover for their Predations.

    It's telling that NO ONE, whether it be The Mainstream Media or The Alternative Media, investigates the Nexus between Israel & Russia. Afterall, Israel is comprised of more than few Soviet/Russian Jews and Putin is very concerned about Russians in the Diaspora.

    https://www.jpost.com/International/US-surprised-Israel-did-support-UN-vote-on-Ukraines-territorial-integrity-348564

    Among the members that did not vote were Iran, Lebanon and Israel.
     
    https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Ukraine-thanks-Israel-for-support-on-Crimea-at-UN-515467

    In December 2016, Kiev voted for UN Resolution 2334, demanding that Israel cease “settlement activity,” which led to a short crisis between Jerusalem and Kiev, but things are now back on track.

    Israel, however, must balance its relations with Ukraine with Jerusalem’s close relations with Moscow.
     
    , @renfro

    Big elephant in the room, is Russia’s indulgence of Israel,
     
    It may be that Putin's fall back position, in the event that Israel is successful in dragging the US into Iran, is to let the US further its own demise. He knows the Jews are destroyers of nations and they will destroy the US eventually.
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  20. CalDre says:

    Those who argue that the withdrawal of the U.S. from JCPOA will be countered by the continued cooperation of the other signatories to the agreement are, one might unfortunately note, somewhat delusional. The U.S. has tremendous leverage in financial markets.

    Probably Trump will fuck over China on the Korean Peninsula and EU on Iran.

    The Bolshevik MSM will blame it on nationalism as it leads to the collapse of the dollar, as the rest of the world stops bowing to US treachery and criminality (yes, sanctions are war crimes).

    This will lead to a move for a global currency or the like.

    Trump is being set up for failure. He was a buffoon (Orangutan) to begin with, not very bright, far too egotistical and morally depraved, a perfect Shabbath goy for the ((bankers).

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  21. El Dato says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    Nuttenyahoo is in the news again today, this time with "proof" that Iran is acquiring nuclear weapons. Would anyone buy a used car from this man?

    The moment you are looking old on TV: Showing off 156 apparently exfiltrated CDs when these can all be put on a single USB stick.

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  22. El Dato says:
    @RobinG
    In SYRIA .....

    In fact, Netanyahu advisor Dror Michman all but admitted an Israeli attack on T-4 earlier this month was designed to provoke an Iranian response.

    The strategy of dragging the US into a regional conflagration couldn’t be more clear.

    HT @GarethPorter
     

    Yeah, it’s coming in FAT and HEAVY.

    Interestingly, this latest strike does not seem to have been detected or countered by any Syrian air-defense assets. Serious business.

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  23. Momus says:

    More turgid, tin foil hat prose from Phillip.

    Iran’s clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?

    Netanyahu/IDF has the prescience, balls and military to destroy the Mullahs dream and the sooner he does it the better for the world.

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    • Replies: @El Dato
    Woah don't be so transparent, bro/sis.

    You are working for a paycheck, don't just phone it in. Be convincing. E.F.F.O.R.T. Use assorted words that indicate a sprightly, bright mind, not a poor home-office worker. Come on.
    , @EliteCommInc.
    then do it. If it's the right thing do it. Go it and do so without the US. Israel is so sure and insightful -- go for it. Have at it.

    I don't get the crying over holding Israel's hand. Make that choice.


    I am sure that Israeli intelligence is as correct about this as they were WMD in Iraq.


    Have at it. What;s with all hmmmm and hahing --- get on it. Make that choice.

    , @Seamus Padraig

    Netanyahu/IDF has the prescience, balls and military to destroy the Mullahs dream and the sooner he does it the better for the world.
     
    Oh yeah? Then why doesn't he?

    You know why? Because the Israelis are scared shitless of the Iranians. Think about it: they can't even handle Hezbollah! They're not going to try their luck with Iran. Oh no! Here's what they're going to do (or at least try to do): they're gonna try and get their big, dumb Washington golem to attack Iran for them.

    Now, let's see what Russia and China do. They've already successfully blocked USreal's attempt at overthrowing the Syrian government. Are they gonna sit back and let them go after Iran? Somehow I doubt it.
    , @Johnny Smoggins
    Jews are religious psychopaths and so are Moslems. Why exactly is it better to have the former, rather than the latter, be the big dog in the Middle East?

    For all their other faults, I don't recall Moslems in the West trying to take over the media, entertainment industry, education and financial systems and government in order to undermine and ultimately destroy the host nation and advance their own race.
    , @annamaria
    It would be great if Bibi had enough prescience to bring up his son to become a decent human being.
    Enjoy: https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/09/middleeast/israel-netanyahu-son-strip-club-recording-intl/index.html
    "In the tape, Yair Netanyahu, now 26, can be heard demanding money from Ori Maimon — the son of Kobi Maimon, an Israeli gas tycoon.
    “My father did a good deal for you, brother,” Yair is heard telling Ori. ... “We fought in the Knesset for it, brother,” Yair then continues saying. “My father battled for it, I remember.”
    That’s when Yair asks Ori for a little over $100.
    “You are crying over 400 shekels,” Yair taunts Ori. “My father sorted your father out with 20 billion dollars and you are crying over 400 shekels?” he adds, laughing.
    The 400 shekels was “for the whore,” Yair says.
    Later, Roman Abramov, another friend of Yair, who joined the two at the strip club, tells the men, “This conversation should not get out. God save us. God, if this gets out, it will be hell.”
    A while later again, Yair asks: “Speaking of whores, what is open at this hour?”
    , @Rurik

    Iran’s clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?
     
    Yes! Of course it's a good thing, when you consider the alternative.

    Iran didn't attack our Navy ship in a cowardly and treacherous act of war, now did they?

    Iran didn't send its Mossad to film the WTC being attacked with planes full of terrified American men, women and children, or start dancing in wild celebration when the planes exploded into the towers, slaughtering all those Americans horrifically. It was Israelis who did that, knowing those attacks were going to happen, and not warning us Americans, because they wanted us to get slaughtered, and cheered about it, as the flames were still burning Americans and people were dropping from the towers to their horrible deaths.

    Israel gets billions upon billions of dollars of largess from the American people, and that's how they repay our generosity, by laughing at our slaughtered citizens?

    I honestly don't know of any Iranians who would have laughed at 9/11, even considering all the evils that the ZUSA has perpetrated on Iran over the decades (always on Israel's behalf of course)

    So yes, absofuckinglutely, I'd prefer Iran to have nukes and hegemony if anyone in the Middle East is to have them/it. Certainly more so than fanatical, murderous, criminal, treacherous, cowardly Israel.

    Bibi belongs at the end of a rope, not lecturing the rest of the planet on his pretexts (lies) for more wars.
    , @jacques sheete

    Iran’s clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?
     
    Credible evidence please.
    , @annamaria
    Excellent suggestion on the Comment section: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-30/why-israel-desperate-escalate-syrian-conflict
    "All holocaust memorials should be closed until Israel signs the NNPT [The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons] and allows all nations to inspect."
    -- Long overdue.
    , @Art
    Netanyahu/IDF has the prescience, balls and military to destroy the Mullahs dream and the sooner he does it the better for the world.

    Bibi is a putzhead - he is leading his Little Jews into hell.

    If Netanyahu really had gonads, he would be attacking Hezbollah right now. In a year Hezbollah and Syria will be too strong for Israel to attack on its own.

    It is an elusion that Jews are warriors. Jews are great assassins – not great warriors. The Mossad can accomplish only so much. Israel’s victimization screeds are no longer working. Now they are just insulting people with their sniveling and whimpering. Netanyahu is talking to an empty audience. Only people he can politically coerce are paying attention.

    Ever more Israel needs the US government. Without starting WWIII Israel is doomed.

    Think Peace --- Art
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  24. Petardos says:

    What about Israel `s Samson Option ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

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    If a nuclear device is "lit off" in an American or European city, it will have Israel's fingerprints all over it. Israel is desperate to keep the American money spigot running, as well as sabotaging the Palestinian "peace process" that the world wants it to take seriously.

    In fact, if a nuclear device is "lit off" anywhere in the world, it will have come from Israel's secret nuclear "stockpile".

    The "power outage" in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical "sleight of hand", as an Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the "power outage" without receiving customs clearance or inspection. Just maybe another one of Israel's nukes was just being pre-positioned, getting ready for "the big one". As most Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel's benefit, another "incident" on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel's benefit. Israel's "samson option" is a real threat to "light one off" in a European or American city, if Israel's interests are not taken seriously.

    Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on Iran or Syria. You can bet that some Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

    Israel also threatens to detonate nuclear devices in several US cities. Talk about total INSANITY; the so-called “Samson Option” is it.
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  25. padre says:
    @Mark James
    In the last ten hours or so the WH has stated that Iran has a secret nuclear weapons program (rubbish). They subsequently denied they meant what they had said: saying the error was "clerical" and the program was in the past tense (had). Not even Netanyahu tried to deliver this tripe and he was flat out lying about Iran in his Monday presentation.

    So why did the WH do it? We would assume most thinking people believe that the error was no error at all. This is the line Trump/Bolton would like Americans to believe. Even if they can't get away with the nonsense --sorry guys-- they (still) prefer that to telling the truth. It's what they do: this being a prelude to the nixing of the JCPOA.

    Actually, they are doing it all the time.They utter a lie, then deny it, but use it as an excuse later on, as if they didn’t deny it at all!

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  26. Excuse me for stating the glaringly obvious here – but Israel already does illegally posses nuclear weapons.

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    And those weapons have kept the world a much safer and peaceful place. Good on the Israelis and their mastery of a mighty technology.
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  27. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Any American that doesn’t want to fight and die for the glory of Apartheid Israel is a neo-Nazi anti-Semite!

    We should be glad to see our sons and daughters getting killed for Israel’s regional expansion plans and not complain when gasoline goes to $10 a gallon, after all, it’s for our friend and ally Israel that we suffer this minor inconvenience.

    Everyone knows that his Imperial Majesty Netanyhau needs a to expand the invasion of Syria with the carpet-bombing of Iran, to help keep Bibi our of prison for corruption, fraud and perjury.

    Look how prescient Bibi was in regards to our invasion of Iraq!

    FLASHBACK: Netanyahu Said Iraq War Would Benefit The Middle East

    “If you take out Saddam, Saddam’s regime, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region…the test and the great opportunity and challenge is not merely to effect the ouster of the regime, but also transform that society and thereby begin too the process of democratizing the Arab world.”

    https://thinkprogress.org/flashback-netanyahu-said-iraq-war-would-benefit-the-middle-east-7836f0b7bc49/

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    There had been a minor historical correction since recent events in Kiev. -- It is alright to be neo-Nazi Zionist now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX4fA0E5j_4
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  28. What is the mass and weight of all these documents and CDs, which were removed by Israel in Iran from a Vault?

    1/2 ton?

    1 ton?

    2 tons?

    How this much mass and weight got out from the Vault? in Iran and then loaded into a plane in Iran?

    Boggles the mind!

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    How many with knowledge of arabic, and knowledge of the Iranian nuclear program, will get the opportunity to investigate if this is not a massive fraud ?
    I suppose months will be needed to investigate.
    And even is there is such an investigation, and the conclusion would be fraud, who would dare to say so, and who would believe it ?
    I did not see that Netanyahu invited anyone to investigate.
    , @El Dato
    Israeli Removal-from-Premises Operations are the best in the world!
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  29. The pressure on Iran MIGHT be a backdoor incentive to stop sharing ANYTHING with North Korea, ever again. No nuclear fuel, no triggers, no missiles. War with either is simply unthinkable and tipping over governments leaving only rubble, dangerous rubble this time with either, is NOT an option.

    Israel can pretty much HAVE Syria, I guess, but we aren’t going to send the troops and Bibi is going to have to handle Iran at his own peril. Our interest, our TRUE further interest with Iran at this point with the UN sitting on them is to deprive North Korea of any further tech. Hence, the “noise” over the deal with Iran. Hope so, anyway.

    It’s the fallout, real and contrived.

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  30. El Dato says:
    @Momus
    More turgid, tin foil hat prose from Phillip.

    Iran's clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?

    Netanyahu/IDF has the prescience, balls and military to destroy the Mullahs dream and the sooner he does it the better for the world.

    Woah don’t be so transparent, bro/sis.

    You are working for a paycheck, don’t just phone it in. Be convincing. E.F.F.O.R.T. Use assorted words that indicate a sprightly, bright mind, not a poor home-office worker. Come on.

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  31. @Wizard of Oz
    A pity PG published before hearing the latest whether Netanyshu's news is true or false - not that he could have anticipated it.

    I had just come across a circular current affairs email from a former very senior Australian public servant with interests in Foreign Affairs and Treasury matters. I have done my best to extract the relevant parts to paste below. To save time you could go straight to "Netanyahu". I would be interested in your or PG's analysis. It seems unlikely that the documents would all be fake but if some have been "adjusted" you might find yourself searching for the fake as a needle in a haystack.


    Israel’s Discovery of Secret Iranian Nuclear Policy

    It is difficult to understate the importance of Israel’s “discovery” that, after in 2005 Iran signed a deal with the US (under Obama) and major European countries, it did not in fact comply with the agreed restrictions on its nuclear activity in return for the lifting of sanctions which included considerable US dollar “reserves”. The press conference by Israel PM Netanyahu and initial reactions from Trump are reported in the attached Trump on Iran. This report appeared in my inbox at about 10 am this morning but was not mentioned on “our” ABC’s lunch time news. Another one for CEO Michelle Guthrie to explain.

    Israeli PM Netanyahu told the press conference in Jerusalem that “After signing the nuclear deal in 2015, Iran intensified its efforts to hide its secret files,” he said. “In 2017 Iran moved its nuclear weapons files to a highly secret location in Tehran.”It is amazing that Mossad was able to penetrate the Iranian hiding place and then smuggle the 55,000 pages of documents and 183 CDs back to Israel. Netanyahu rightly describes Israel’s ability to acquire the archive as marking “a massive intelligence coup”.

    The “atomic archive” was compiled by Iran with the express purpose of preserving its secretive nuclear weapons plan known as Project Amad, which aimed to “design, produce and test… five warheads, each with a 10 kiloton TNT yield, for integration on a missile. “That is like five Hiroshima bombs to be put on ballistic missiles,” asserted Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu outlined Project Amad as containing five key elements described by the Times of Israel thusly: “Designing

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    Trump Proclaims Netanyahu Announcement on Iran Shows ‘I’ve Been 100% Right’
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    President Donald Trump listens during a news conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel in the East Room of the White House, Friday, April 27, 2018, in Washington. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

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    by MICHELLE MOONS30 Apr 2018Washington, DC2,238

    From a White House Rose Garden podium this afternoon, President Donald Trump declared that he has been “100 percent right” on continued Iran nuclear development and brand new evidence from the Israeli Prime Minister proves that.
    Moments before President Trump and Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari held a joint press conference in the White House Rose Garden on Monday afternoon, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu took to televisionairwaves.

    Netanyahu announced that he was in possession of intelligence that proves Tehran has been running a secret nuclear weapons development program (see report below on what Netanyahu said).

    President Trump was asked about Netanyahu’s announcement moments later during the joint press conference. He was also asked if he had made a decision on whether to pull out of the Iranian nuclear deal and if Trump does decide to pull out, does it send the wrong message to North Korea regarding a potential nuclear deal there.

    “No, I think it sends the right message,” remarked Trump. “In seven years that deal will have expired and Iran is free to go ahead and create nuclear weapons. That’s not acceptable. Seven years is tomorrow.”

    “If anything it’s proven right, what Israel has done today with the news conference and Prime Minister Netanyahu just gave a very … I got to see a little bit of it,” said Trump. “That is just not an acceptable situation.”

    “I’ve been saying that’s happening,” said Trump. “They’re not sitting back idly they’re setting off missiles which they say are for television purposes. I don’t think so.”

    “We’ll see what happens,” said Trump who remarked that many have said they believe they know what he’s going to do, hinting that they believe he is going to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal. A decision on whether to pull out will be made on or before May 12.

    “That doesn’t mean we won’t negotiate a real agreement,” President Trump assured. He added that the current agreement “wasn’t approved by too many people and it’s a horrible agreement for the United States, including the fact, Mr. President [Buhari], that we gave Iran 150 billion dollars and 1.8 billion in cash. Nigeria would like some of that.”

    “You know what we got? We got nothing,” Trump said of the Iran deal.

    Trump concluded, “I think if anything, what’s happening today and what’s happened over the last little while and what we’ve learned has really shown that I’ve been 100 percent right.”

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    Watch: Netanyahu – 100,000 Secret Files Prove Iran ‘Lied Big Time’ About Nukes
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    by AARON KLEIN30 Apr 201811,417

    TEL AVIV — In a dramatic press conference in Jerusalem aimed at the international community, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday unveiled a cache of secret files he says were obtained from inside a hidden Iranian site and clearly demonstrate that Tehran maintained a secret nuclear weapons program despite declarations to the contrary.
    Netanyahu explained that the structure of the U.S.-led international nuclear agreement was in part based on deceptive Iranian descriptions of its previous nuclear work. He said Iran’s failure to disclose its secret program while misleading the world shows the nuclear deal is “based on lies based on Iranian deception.”

    The Israeli leader presented evidence that Iran continued research for a nuclear weapons program even after signing the 2015 nuclear deal.

    “Iran’s leaders repeatedly deny ever pursuing nuclear weapons,” Netanyahu began. “Tonight I’m here to tell you one thing: Iran lied.”

    “After signing the nuclear deal in 2015, Iran intensified its efforts to hide its secret files,” he said. “In 2017 Iran moved its nuclear weapons files to a highly secret location in Tehran.”

    Netanyahu said the secret nuclear files prove the following:

    Iran lied about never having a secret nuclear program. Second, even after the deal it continued to expand its nuclear program for future use. Third, Iran lied by not coming clean to the IAEA. Finally, the nuclear deal is based on lies based on Iranian deception.

    The prime minister’s speech was based on 55,000 pages of documents and 183 CDs that Netanyahu said were smuggled out of an “atomic archive” painstakingly preserving Iran’s secretive nuclear program so that the country would have the option of restarting its nuclear weapons activities after the nuclear deal expires or in the case of Tehran prematurely bolting the agreement. Israel’s ability to acquire the archive marks a massive intelligence coup for the Jewish state.

    “Iran lied. Big time,” Netanyahu said of the half-ton of material obtained by Israel.

    The trove, Netanyahu added, contains “incriminating documents, incriminating charts, incriminating presentations, incriminating blueprints, incriminating photos, incriminating videos and more.”

    He said Israel shared the material with the U.S., and that “the United States can vouch for its authenticity.”

    The “atomic archive” was compiled by Iran with the express purpose of preserving its secretive nuclear weapons plan known as Project Amad, which aimed to “design, produce and test… five warheads, each with a 10 kiloton TNT yield, for integration on a missile.”

    “That is like five Hiroshima bombs to be put on ballistic missiles,” asserted Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu outlined Project Amad as containing five key elements described by the Times of Israel thusly: “Designing nuclear weapons, developing nuclear cores, building nuclear implosion systems, preparing nuclear tests and integrating nuclear warheads on missiles.”

    Netanyahu said that in 2003, Iran shut down the version of Project Amad that existed at the time and instead divided its nuclear program into both covert and overt components. Besides archiving the material for future use, Netanyahu said Iran continued to research nuclear weapons.

    Netanyahu called on President Donald Trump to “do the right thing” as the May 12 deadline to recertify the nuclear agreement approaches.

    “The right thing for the United States. The right thing for Israel. And the right thing for the peace of the world,” he concluded.

    I’m 99.999% sure that he’s lying, I saw a brief clip of him and his lips were moving.

    It would be a wonderful day for peace in the ME if Iran had not 5 but 10 nukes ready to launch. I doubt that they’d be launched but they would serve as an excellent deterrent to Nuttenyahoo’s murderous insanity.

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    I'm a 100% that disgusting maggot bibi is lying.

    Also 100% that wizard of imbecility is a disgusting shill.
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  32. @Dan Herman
    What is the mass and weight of all these documents and CDs, which were removed by Israel in Iran from a Vault?

    1/2 ton?

    1 ton?

    2 tons?

    How this much mass and weight got out from the Vault? in Iran and then loaded into a plane in Iran?

    Boggles the mind!

    How many with knowledge of arabic, and knowledge of the Iranian nuclear program, will get the opportunity to investigate if this is not a massive fraud ?
    I suppose months will be needed to investigate.
    And even is there is such an investigation, and the conclusion would be fraud, who would dare to say so, and who would believe it ?
    I did not see that Netanyahu invited anyone to investigate.

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    How many with knowledge of arabic, and knowledge of the Iranian nuclear program
     
    Farsi, not Arabic. These are Persians, man.

    I suppose months will be needed to investigate.
     
    I don't think so.

    The IAEA verification programme is still on.

    They (the IAEA) can emit an official statement RIGHT THIS EVENING.

    Tell Nethanyahoo to STFU and get out of here and re-affirm compliance under the treaty.

    NOBODY is forbidding Iran to keep reams of paper with concentric circles (apparently drawn by someone who believes he thinks this should look like) on it in safes - or PowerPoint presentations on CDs for that matter.

    Do they have an undeclared stash of HEU somewhere? No? Then end of story.

    , @Frankie P
    Jaysus Jilles,

    You put some relatively coherent comments on this site once in a while, but "knowledge of arabic" to understand documents and CDs from Iran? WTF is wrong with you, man!

    Frankie P
    , @ChuckOrloski
    Jilles Dykstra astutely noted:
    "I did not see that Netanyahu invited anyone to investigate."

    Hi Jilles,

    He also will not invite anyone to investigate Israel's advanced (rogue) nuclear weapon systems. Refer to link, below?

    Thank you!

    www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/05/01/560274/Israel-Benjamin-Netanyahu-Iran-nuclear-deal
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  33. Moi says:
    @Realist
    Trump is a nutless, brainless asshole. He truly is a Zionist puppet.

    You nailed it!

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  34. Moi says:
    @Brabantian
    Big elephant in the room, is Russia's indulgence of Israel, letting the Israelis kill Iranians and others in Syria, as they just did despite Vladimir Putin's empty 'warning' to Netanyahu ... Putin who refuses to give Syria Russia's advanced missile defences that would block Israeli attacks on his alleged 'ally'

    A sentiment amongst Arabs & MidEast Muslims is that you cannot trust the white or European governments, they may help you in part out of self-interest (e.g., Russia in Syria), but they seem to always cut a deal with Israel

    V. Putin always chummy with 'Putin's Rabbi' Berel Lazar of the Mossad-tied Chabad Jewish religious cult, Putin a 'Russo-Zionist' who has Unz's 'The Saker' Andrei Raevsky distracting from Putin's deep Israeli ties

    But then there is Netanyahu's powerful new presentation re Iran
    https://justlearningman.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/coyote-united-nations-israel.jpg

    Putin is weak. Put pressure on him and he folds. Any people who trusts an outsider are stupid–sadly, Arabs, in particular, and Muslim, in general, keep doing this over and over again. Insanity? Dumb Arabs got snookered by Lawrence of “Arabia”/Britain into fighting Turkish Muslims. Now those Arabs are “enjoying” life under the American jackboot.

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    Putin is weak. Put pressure on him and he folds.
     
    If Putin is weak, who is strong? Show me anybody else in this entire damn world with guts enough to resist the US gang?

    Putin and Russia have been under pressure for at least 10 years and so far haven't folded. All Putin is doing is trying to protect the Russian people from the worst of it. After all, he is the President of Russia, not Iran or Syria, and his prime responsibility is to the citizens of Russia.
    , @Ace
    Gen. Gerasimov didn't sound like a Russian who was in the process of "folding." Is he independent of Putin?
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  35. @RobinG
    In SYRIA .....

    In fact, Netanyahu advisor Dror Michman all but admitted an Israeli attack on T-4 earlier this month was designed to provoke an Iranian response.

    The strategy of dragging the US into a regional conflagration couldn’t be more clear.

    HT @GarethPorter
     

    This is not a regional conflagration, as the USA Civil War was not, as the Spanish Civil war was not, as the Korean civil war was not, as the Saudi Yemen conflict is not.

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    Are you having a "senior moment?" This is almost as dumb as your "Arabic in Iran" comment.
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  36. Moi says:

    Phil is a good man, but if America wants to be Israel’s bitch, hey, that’s it’s choice.

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    Exactly! Phil is a good man, put in years working for US intelligence, the US government, the US military perhaps (I forget). He is unable to make the jump that is necessary. Council for the National Interest indeed! Phil, make the jump. Realize and accept that the US is history, the population is brainwashed and your trying to edumacate them will result in bupkis! Then start supporting the powers that will bring down the US (China, Russia, Iran, Syria, Iraq, etc), because they are the ones that will get to Israel and its fifth column. The parasite has taken over the host; the host must die in order to eradicate the parasite.

    Long live the resistance.

    Frankie P
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  37. @Momus
    More turgid, tin foil hat prose from Phillip.

    Iran's clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?

    Netanyahu/IDF has the prescience, balls and military to destroy the Mullahs dream and the sooner he does it the better for the world.

    then do it. If it’s the right thing do it. Go it and do so without the US. Israel is so sure and insightful — go for it. Have at it.

    I don’t get the crying over holding Israel’s hand. Make that choice.

    I am sure that Israeli intelligence is as correct about this as they were WMD in Iraq.

    Have at it. What;s with all hmmmm and hahing — get on it. Make that choice.

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  38. @Jim Christian
    The pressure on Iran MIGHT be a backdoor incentive to stop sharing ANYTHING with North Korea, ever again. No nuclear fuel, no triggers, no missiles. War with either is simply unthinkable and tipping over governments leaving only rubble, dangerous rubble this time with either, is NOT an option.

    Israel can pretty much HAVE Syria, I guess, but we aren't going to send the troops and Bibi is going to have to handle Iran at his own peril. Our interest, our TRUE further interest with Iran at this point with the UN sitting on them is to deprive North Korea of any further tech. Hence, the "noise" over the deal with Iran. Hope so, anyway.

    It's the fallout, real and contrived.

    You do realize that we have already sent troops to Israel.

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  39. @Momus
    More turgid, tin foil hat prose from Phillip.

    Iran's clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?

    Netanyahu/IDF has the prescience, balls and military to destroy the Mullahs dream and the sooner he does it the better for the world.

    Netanyahu/IDF has the prescience, balls and military to destroy the Mullahs dream and the sooner he does it the better for the world.

    Oh yeah? Then why doesn’t he?

    You know why? Because the Israelis are scared shitless of the Iranians. Think about it: they can’t even handle Hezbollah! They’re not going to try their luck with Iran. Oh no! Here’s what they’re going to do (or at least try to do): they’re gonna try and get their big, dumb Washington golem to attack Iran for them.

    Now, let’s see what Russia and China do. They’ve already successfully blocked USreal’s attempt at overthrowing the Syrian government. Are they gonna sit back and let them go after Iran? Somehow I doubt it.

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  40. El Dato says:
    @jilles dykstra
    How many with knowledge of arabic, and knowledge of the Iranian nuclear program, will get the opportunity to investigate if this is not a massive fraud ?
    I suppose months will be needed to investigate.
    And even is there is such an investigation, and the conclusion would be fraud, who would dare to say so, and who would believe it ?
    I did not see that Netanyahu invited anyone to investigate.

    How many with knowledge of arabic, and knowledge of the Iranian nuclear program

    Farsi, not Arabic. These are Persians, man.

    I suppose months will be needed to investigate.

    I don’t think so.

    The IAEA verification programme is still on.

    They (the IAEA) can emit an official statement RIGHT THIS EVENING.

    Tell Nethanyahoo to STFU and get out of here and re-affirm compliance under the treaty.

    NOBODY is forbidding Iran to keep reams of paper with concentric circles (apparently drawn by someone who believes he thinks this should look like) on it in safes – or PowerPoint presentations on CDs for that matter.

    Do they have an undeclared stash of HEU somewhere? No? Then end of story.

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  41. As one informed observer has noted, “a train wreck is probably coming, with very damaging consequences that are hard to predict.”

    You know, I agree with Giraldi’s basic premise that the JPCOA is a good idea–at any rate, it would be a good idea if Washington were under saner management.

    But the way things are going these days, I say: bring it on! Let Chump go ahead and unilaterally cancel the agreement. Either: a.) this will cause a huge rift within NATO; or b.) all the Euro-muppets will finally see who it is that really runs their continent and revolt against their own Quisling rulers.

    The U.S. and Israel are also expressing concern about Iranian ballistic missile capability. Again, ballistic missiles would appear to be a weapon that Israel alone seeks to monopolize in its neighborhood because it seeks to regard itself as uniquely threatened, that is, always the victim.

    Don’t those crazy mullahs realize who the real victims are here? You know, I think Iran needs to start building some Holocaust memorials!

    The U.S. has tremendous leverage in financial markets. If it chooses to sanction Iran over its missiles while also re-introducing the old sanctions relating to the nuclear developments, it would be a brave European or Asian banker who would risk being blocked out of the American market by lending money or selling certain prohibited goods to the Iranians.

    Which means what? It means that Iran, off limits to USraels’ various puppet-states, falls ever deeper into the Chinese orbit, thereby strengthening the new Eurasian system that is forming. Again: bring it on!

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  42. El Dato says:
    @Dan Herman
    What is the mass and weight of all these documents and CDs, which were removed by Israel in Iran from a Vault?

    1/2 ton?

    1 ton?

    2 tons?

    How this much mass and weight got out from the Vault? in Iran and then loaded into a plane in Iran?

    Boggles the mind!

    Israeli Removal-from-Premises Operations are the best in the world!

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  43. Frankie P says:
    @jilles dykstra
    How many with knowledge of arabic, and knowledge of the Iranian nuclear program, will get the opportunity to investigate if this is not a massive fraud ?
    I suppose months will be needed to investigate.
    And even is there is such an investigation, and the conclusion would be fraud, who would dare to say so, and who would believe it ?
    I did not see that Netanyahu invited anyone to investigate.

    Jaysus Jilles,

    You put some relatively coherent comments on this site once in a while, but “knowledge of arabic” to understand documents and CDs from Iran? WTF is wrong with you, man!

    Frankie P

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  44. Frankie P says:
    @Moi
    Phil is a good man, but if America wants to be Israel's bitch, hey, that's it's choice.

    Exactly! Phil is a good man, put in years working for US intelligence, the US government, the US military perhaps (I forget). He is unable to make the jump that is necessary. Council for the National Interest indeed! Phil, make the jump. Realize and accept that the US is history, the population is brainwashed and your trying to edumacate them will result in bupkis! Then start supporting the powers that will bring down the US (China, Russia, Iran, Syria, Iraq, etc), because they are the ones that will get to Israel and its fifth column. The parasite has taken over the host; the host must die in order to eradicate the parasite.

    Long live the resistance.

    Frankie P

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  45. Stirred says:

    It’s absolutely imperitive for the “Resistance” that US withdraws from the nuclear accord, for it to win.
    It’s the golden chance for the human race to rid itself of the Anglo-Wahabi-Zionist scum. The evil empire needs controlled wars, the Resistance needs full blown war. Unless that happens, elites will maintain their grip over the socio-economical factors. This scum has infected the institutions so deep, nothing short of a full blown war will accomplish this. It’s harsh sure, but ain’t truth always is ?

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    Anglo-Wahhabi-Zionist scam

    Perfect turn of phrase. But make certain to stress that the means to today's alliance were planted in the 19th century by the Brits.
    , @El Dato
    Can't we at least wait until magic nanotech is real so that we can rebuild afterwards?
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  46. @Brabantian
    Big elephant in the room, is Russia's indulgence of Israel, letting the Israelis kill Iranians and others in Syria, as they just did despite Vladimir Putin's empty 'warning' to Netanyahu ... Putin who refuses to give Syria Russia's advanced missile defences that would block Israeli attacks on his alleged 'ally'

    A sentiment amongst Arabs & MidEast Muslims is that you cannot trust the white or European governments, they may help you in part out of self-interest (e.g., Russia in Syria), but they seem to always cut a deal with Israel

    V. Putin always chummy with 'Putin's Rabbi' Berel Lazar of the Mossad-tied Chabad Jewish religious cult, Putin a 'Russo-Zionist' who has Unz's 'The Saker' Andrei Raevsky distracting from Putin's deep Israeli ties

    But then there is Netanyahu's powerful new presentation re Iran
    https://justlearningman.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/coyote-united-nations-israel.jpg

    “Big elephant in the room, is Russia’s indulgence of Israel”

    There is no elephant in the room. Russia is in Syria because Putin was invited by his friend and war criminal, The King of Israel. Russia is playing the bad/good cop role.
    Only a fool can’t see that.

    “A sentiment amongst Arabs & MidEast Muslims is that you cannot trust the white or European governments”

    If the Arabs themselves are in bed with European and American governments, I don’t believe that is correct to say that “sentiment” exist.

    Maybe among some young honest Arabs, who are irrelevant.

    Even The House Saud, the “protector of Islam’s holiest sites” is in the bed with the enemies of Arabs/Islam. She has always been. Today, only those we are willingly blind, can’t see it.

    The House of Saud is as much Muslim as American Presidents are Christians. or Tony Blair is a Christian.

    Again, only naîve readers take “The Saker” seriously.
    The man is not only a bad writer but a very bad propagandist. Same standard of Propaganda than MSM.

    Paul Craig Roberts is more intelligent and a better writer than “The Saker”, but he is so obssessed with the tree that he refuses to see the forest.
    PCR is a religious man. Sometimes beliefs impede you to see the reality.

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    Russia is in Syria because Putin was invited by his friend and war criminal, The King of Israel. Russia is playing the bad/good cop role.
    Only a fool can’t see that.
     
    Sounds farfetched and there is no evidence.
    , @annamaria
    "James Brown," could you just stick with MSM? Your post smells hasbara to high heaven.
    , @L.K

    There is no elephant in the room. Russia is in Syria because Putin was invited by his friend and war criminal, The King of Israel. Russia is playing the bad/good cop role.
    Only a fool can’t see that.
     
    Absolutely ridiculous statement.
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  47. Jake says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    Nuttenyahoo is in the news again today, this time with "proof" that Iran is acquiring nuclear weapons. Would anyone buy a used car from this man?

    Not only would every true-blue WASP Evangelical buy a used car from Bibi, but most would tip him afterward.

    Fruits of the Judaizing heresy Anglo-Saxon Puritanism.

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  48. Jake says:
    @Stirred
    It's absolutely imperitive for the "Resistance" that US withdraws from the nuclear accord, for it to win.
    It's the golden chance for the human race to rid itself of the Anglo-Wahabi-Zionist scum. The evil empire needs controlled wars, the Resistance needs full blown war. Unless that happens, elites will maintain their grip over the socio-economical factors. This scum has infected the institutions so deep, nothing short of a full blown war will accomplish this. It's harsh sure, but ain't truth always is ?

    Anglo-Wahhabi-Zionist scam

    Perfect turn of phrase. But make certain to stress that the means to today’s alliance were planted in the 19th century by the Brits.

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    @ Jake

    Hi,

    you seem to have some invaluable knowledge that I'm after. Can you please get in touch via other means so that we can discuss this ?

    My E-mail: [email protected]

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  49. The Mullahs have been working with the NorKs on nukes. The Iranians started violating the agreement before the ink was dry on the parchment. Anyone that truly believes the Iranians gave up their efforts to get nukes is a hot prospect to buy the Brooklyn bridge.

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    Who cares? Atomic bomb technology is 70 years old and any physics graduate student could probably produce a functional uranium bomb design. The sooner the Iranians have a bomb the sooner Adolph Netanyahu will have to stop crying about attacking Iran or do it and bring about a war that might end Israel for good.
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  50. El Dato says:
    @Stirred
    It's absolutely imperitive for the "Resistance" that US withdraws from the nuclear accord, for it to win.
    It's the golden chance for the human race to rid itself of the Anglo-Wahabi-Zionist scum. The evil empire needs controlled wars, the Resistance needs full blown war. Unless that happens, elites will maintain their grip over the socio-economical factors. This scum has infected the institutions so deep, nothing short of a full blown war will accomplish this. It's harsh sure, but ain't truth always is ?

    Can’t we at least wait until magic nanotech is real so that we can rebuild afterwards?

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  51. El Dato says:
    @James Brown
    "Big elephant in the room, is Russia’s indulgence of Israel"

    There is no elephant in the room. Russia is in Syria because Putin was invited by his friend and war criminal, The King of Israel. Russia is playing the bad/good cop role.
    Only a fool can't see that.

    "A sentiment amongst Arabs & MidEast Muslims is that you cannot trust the white or European governments"

    If the Arabs themselves are in bed with European and American governments, I don't believe that is correct to say that "sentiment" exist.

    Maybe among some young honest Arabs, who are irrelevant.

    Even The House Saud, the "protector of Islam's holiest sites" is in the bed with the enemies of Arabs/Islam. She has always been. Today, only those we are willingly blind, can't see it.

    The House of Saud is as much Muslim as American Presidents are Christians. or Tony Blair is a Christian.

    Again, only naîve readers take "The Saker" seriously.
    The man is not only a bad writer but a very bad propagandist. Same standard of Propaganda than MSM.

    Paul Craig Roberts is more intelligent and a better writer than "The Saker", but he is so obssessed with the tree that he refuses to see the forest.
    PCR is a religious man. Sometimes beliefs impede you to see the reality.

    Russia is in Syria because Putin was invited by his friend and war criminal, The King of Israel. Russia is playing the bad/good cop role.
    Only a fool can’t see that.

    Sounds farfetched and there is no evidence.

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    It makes it even harder for fools that they are expected to know what the "the good cop/bad cop role [sic - singular]" is. There are (at least) two good cop/bad cop roles so you should ask him to spell out what he says is happening.
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  52. prusmc says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz
    A pity PG published before hearing the latest whether Netanyshu's news is true or false - not that he could have anticipated it.

    I had just come across a circular current affairs email from a former very senior Australian public servant with interests in Foreign Affairs and Treasury matters. I have done my best to extract the relevant parts to paste below. To save time you could go straight to "Netanyahu". I would be interested in your or PG's analysis. It seems unlikely that the documents would all be fake but if some have been "adjusted" you might find yourself searching for the fake as a needle in a haystack.


    Israel’s Discovery of Secret Iranian Nuclear Policy

    It is difficult to understate the importance of Israel’s “discovery” that, after in 2005 Iran signed a deal with the US (under Obama) and major European countries, it did not in fact comply with the agreed restrictions on its nuclear activity in return for the lifting of sanctions which included considerable US dollar “reserves”. The press conference by Israel PM Netanyahu and initial reactions from Trump are reported in the attached Trump on Iran. This report appeared in my inbox at about 10 am this morning but was not mentioned on “our” ABC’s lunch time news. Another one for CEO Michelle Guthrie to explain.

    Israeli PM Netanyahu told the press conference in Jerusalem that “After signing the nuclear deal in 2015, Iran intensified its efforts to hide its secret files,” he said. “In 2017 Iran moved its nuclear weapons files to a highly secret location in Tehran.”It is amazing that Mossad was able to penetrate the Iranian hiding place and then smuggle the 55,000 pages of documents and 183 CDs back to Israel. Netanyahu rightly describes Israel’s ability to acquire the archive as marking “a massive intelligence coup”.

    The “atomic archive” was compiled by Iran with the express purpose of preserving its secretive nuclear weapons plan known as Project Amad, which aimed to “design, produce and test… five warheads, each with a 10 kiloton TNT yield, for integration on a missile. “That is like five Hiroshima bombs to be put on ballistic missiles,” asserted Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu outlined Project Amad as containing five key elements described by the Times of Israel thusly: “Designing

    [I lost something here]

    Trump Proclaims Netanyahu Announcement on Iran Shows ‘I’ve Been 100% Right’
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    President Donald Trump listens during a news conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel in the East Room of the White House, Friday, April 27, 2018, in Washington. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

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    by MICHELLE MOONS30 Apr 2018Washington, DC2,238

    From a White House Rose Garden podium this afternoon, President Donald Trump declared that he has been “100 percent right” on continued Iran nuclear development and brand new evidence from the Israeli Prime Minister proves that.
    Moments before President Trump and Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari held a joint press conference in the White House Rose Garden on Monday afternoon, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu took to televisionairwaves.

    Netanyahu announced that he was in possession of intelligence that proves Tehran has been running a secret nuclear weapons development program (see report below on what Netanyahu said).

    President Trump was asked about Netanyahu’s announcement moments later during the joint press conference. He was also asked if he had made a decision on whether to pull out of the Iranian nuclear deal and if Trump does decide to pull out, does it send the wrong message to North Korea regarding a potential nuclear deal there.

    “No, I think it sends the right message,” remarked Trump. “In seven years that deal will have expired and Iran is free to go ahead and create nuclear weapons. That’s not acceptable. Seven years is tomorrow.”

    “If anything it’s proven right, what Israel has done today with the news conference and Prime Minister Netanyahu just gave a very … I got to see a little bit of it,” said Trump. “That is just not an acceptable situation.”

    “I’ve been saying that’s happening,” said Trump. “They’re not sitting back idly they’re setting off missiles which they say are for television purposes. I don’t think so.”

    “We’ll see what happens,” said Trump who remarked that many have said they believe they know what he’s going to do, hinting that they believe he is going to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal. A decision on whether to pull out will be made on or before May 12.

    “That doesn’t mean we won’t negotiate a real agreement,” President Trump assured. He added that the current agreement “wasn’t approved by too many people and it’s a horrible agreement for the United States, including the fact, Mr. President [Buhari], that we gave Iran 150 billion dollars and 1.8 billion in cash. Nigeria would like some of that.”

    “You know what we got? We got nothing,” Trump said of the Iran deal.

    Trump concluded, “I think if anything, what’s happening today and what’s happened over the last little while and what we’ve learned has really shown that I’ve been 100 percent right.”

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    Watch: Netanyahu – 100,000 Secret Files Prove Iran ‘Lied Big Time’ About Nukes
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    by AARON KLEIN30 Apr 201811,417

    TEL AVIV — In a dramatic press conference in Jerusalem aimed at the international community, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday unveiled a cache of secret files he says were obtained from inside a hidden Iranian site and clearly demonstrate that Tehran maintained a secret nuclear weapons program despite declarations to the contrary.
    Netanyahu explained that the structure of the U.S.-led international nuclear agreement was in part based on deceptive Iranian descriptions of its previous nuclear work. He said Iran’s failure to disclose its secret program while misleading the world shows the nuclear deal is “based on lies based on Iranian deception.”

    The Israeli leader presented evidence that Iran continued research for a nuclear weapons program even after signing the 2015 nuclear deal.

    “Iran’s leaders repeatedly deny ever pursuing nuclear weapons,” Netanyahu began. “Tonight I’m here to tell you one thing: Iran lied.”

    “After signing the nuclear deal in 2015, Iran intensified its efforts to hide its secret files,” he said. “In 2017 Iran moved its nuclear weapons files to a highly secret location in Tehran.”

    Netanyahu said the secret nuclear files prove the following:

    Iran lied about never having a secret nuclear program. Second, even after the deal it continued to expand its nuclear program for future use. Third, Iran lied by not coming clean to the IAEA. Finally, the nuclear deal is based on lies based on Iranian deception.

    The prime minister’s speech was based on 55,000 pages of documents and 183 CDs that Netanyahu said were smuggled out of an “atomic archive” painstakingly preserving Iran’s secretive nuclear program so that the country would have the option of restarting its nuclear weapons activities after the nuclear deal expires or in the case of Tehran prematurely bolting the agreement. Israel’s ability to acquire the archive marks a massive intelligence coup for the Jewish state.

    “Iran lied. Big time,” Netanyahu said of the half-ton of material obtained by Israel.

    The trove, Netanyahu added, contains “incriminating documents, incriminating charts, incriminating presentations, incriminating blueprints, incriminating photos, incriminating videos and more.”

    He said Israel shared the material with the U.S., and that “the United States can vouch for its authenticity.”

    The “atomic archive” was compiled by Iran with the express purpose of preserving its secretive nuclear weapons plan known as Project Amad, which aimed to “design, produce and test… five warheads, each with a 10 kiloton TNT yield, for integration on a missile.”

    “That is like five Hiroshima bombs to be put on ballistic missiles,” asserted Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu outlined Project Amad as containing five key elements described by the Times of Israel thusly: “Designing nuclear weapons, developing nuclear cores, building nuclear implosion systems, preparing nuclear tests and integrating nuclear warheads on missiles.”

    Netanyahu said that in 2003, Iran shut down the version of Project Amad that existed at the time and instead divided its nuclear program into both covert and overt components. Besides archiving the material for future use, Netanyahu said Iran continued to research nuclear weapons.

    Netanyahu called on President Donald Trump to “do the right thing” as the May 12 deadline to recertify the nuclear agreement approaches.

    “The right thing for the United States. The right thing for Israel. And the right thing for the peace of the world,” he concluded.

    So the US gave Iran $150 billion and $1.5 billion in cash and Nigeria would like some of that. A lot of places would like some of that including the deplorables in the US. If it was a waste and a fraud to give it to Iran why repeat the scenario with Nigeria or an of the 140 plus contries/states/ nations seeking a US handout?

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    So the US gave Iran $150 billion and $1.5 billion in cash
     
    Typical example of falling for the pundit media.
    The US did not GIVE Iran any money.
    The money came from Iran's US 'frozen funds' ....Obama 'released' their money, it was not US money.
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  53. Trump will pull out of the nuclear agreement with Iran because this is what Netanyahu and the ziocons who control the U.S. gov want and the Zionists have controlled the U.S. gov for over 100 years and this control has given us wars and debt and destruction both here in America and around the world.

    If anyone doubts that Israel controls the U.S. gov , just remember that Israel did 911 and got away with it.

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  54. @Momus
    More turgid, tin foil hat prose from Phillip.

    Iran's clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?

    Netanyahu/IDF has the prescience, balls and military to destroy the Mullahs dream and the sooner he does it the better for the world.

    Jews are religious psychopaths and so are Moslems. Why exactly is it better to have the former, rather than the latter, be the big dog in the Middle East?

    For all their other faults, I don’t recall Moslems in the West trying to take over the media, entertainment industry, education and financial systems and government in order to undermine and ultimately destroy the host nation and advance their own race.

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    That is because the inheritors of the Ishmaelite/Islamic part of Semitic culture operate differently than does the Jewish part.

    But it is foolish unto death to assume that they are not at least equally rotten and equally ruinous.

    , @ChuckOrloski
    With notable objectivity, Johnny Smoggins wrote:
    "For all their other faults, I don’t recall Moslems in the West trying to take over the media... in order to undermine and ultimately destroy the host nation and advance their own race."

    Hi Johnny Smoggins,

    Bingo! A totalitarian control-priority (characteristic) is media takeover.

    America's mighty Jewish Corporate Media had the advantage of an expert "blueprint" to follow, & of course, unlimited financial means & devotional will to do it.

    Please consider perusing "Protocols of Zion," in particular # 12, (published in Russia, 1905), & linked below?

    http://crowds.virginia.edu/ma01/Kidd/thesis/pdf/Protocols.pdf

    Libya's & anti-Zionist Colonel Qaddafi wrote a "Green Book" designed to help direct Islamic nations in developing society's based upon Allah's "Protocols," the Quran.*

    Soon after Qaddafi's barbaric murder, no one here @ U.R. requires reminder of how ZUS Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, boasted about the evil deed in a now famous "sound bite"?

    Thanks, Smoggins!

    *. For those interested, Cynthia McKinney has written valuable articles on the late-Qaddafi's humane social engineering plans.
    Forgive me had I misidentified the works as "Green Book"? Likely U.R. commenter "Talha" knows more & better than I.
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  55. Vojkan says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Macron worked at the Rothschild Bank.

    Strange how many people believe that France is pursuant of her own national interest in spite of Macron being a zio-bankster puppet. France has been infected by Zionists ever since de Gaulle had to resign and is therefore as untrustworthy as the USA or the UK.
    The French simply play the role the globalist mafia assigns them at any given moment.

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  56. Just remember Iran, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan….. have never attacked America, probably never will, unless provoked to do so, which is exactly what we are doing now.

    Who has attacked America? Israel, Saudis, Pakis, our allies and traitors within our own “government”. Let that sink in. That is who our “government” is now. Allied with the enemy. Traitors, every one of them that kiss Israels ass, sell the Saudis billions in weaponry, send billions in taxpayer foreign aid.

    9/11, Lavon affair, USS Liberty, JFK assassination, Las Vegas Massacre, many more that we still don’t know of because they control the media.

    The Israelis and traitors are cooking up a false flag right now as we speak to justify war with Iran. The provocations don’t seem to be working fast enough…

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    I don't intend to comment one way or another on the USS Liberty affair but ote sith interest that the very short video that you linked doesn't help the anti Israeli cause especially when one can choose the very long BBC documentary linked earlier. In particular the attempt to portray the US admininistration as trying to facilitate the ship's destruction and killing of its crew by writing of the recall of plains sent to protect them makes no sense. The planes couldn't have protected them as eell as a call from DC could and the planes which took off and were recalled appear to be those prepared for a nuclear attack on Egypt.
    , @anarchyst
    June 8 2017 marked the 50th anniversary of the deliberate Israeli attack on the USS Liberty (GTR-5). Normally, the 50th anniversary of any notable event rates at least a mention in just about any mainstream media publication.
    Not so for the USS Liberty (GTR-5).
    WHY?
    It is clear WHO owns the mainstream media. Hint: It ain't Americans...
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  57. @jilles dykstra
    How many with knowledge of arabic, and knowledge of the Iranian nuclear program, will get the opportunity to investigate if this is not a massive fraud ?
    I suppose months will be needed to investigate.
    And even is there is such an investigation, and the conclusion would be fraud, who would dare to say so, and who would believe it ?
    I did not see that Netanyahu invited anyone to investigate.

    Jilles Dykstra astutely noted:
    “I did not see that Netanyahu invited anyone to investigate.”

    Hi Jilles,

    He also will not invite anyone to investigate Israel’s advanced (rogue) nuclear weapon systems. Refer to link, below?

    Thank you!

    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/05/01/560274/Israel-Benjamin-Netanyahu-Iran-nuclear-deal

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  58. Wade says:

    It is, on the contrary, an American interest not to have another nuclear proliferator in the Middle East in addition to Israel, which Washington has never dared to confront on the issue.

    Mr. Giraldi, thanks again for another great article. However, I’m proud to say for the first time I am able to correct you on something. It is not true that Washington has never stood up to Israel on it’s obtaining nuclear weapons. In point of fact John F Kennedy stood up to them on it and demanded that the international community be able to inspect Dimona. This was such an acrimonious issue between Kennedy and David Bin-Gurion that it ultimately resulted in the latter retiring from office:

    https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault/2016-04-21/concerned-about-nuclear-weapons-potential-john-f-kennedy

    Shortly after our president’s untimely death the Israelis stole hundreds of pounds of enriched uranium from Apollo, Pennsylvania, probably deliberately transferred to them in fact by NUMEC:

    https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault/2016-11-02/numec-affair-did-highly-enriched-uranium-us-aid-israels

    Today, more is publicly known about the NUMEC affair than ever before. In 2009 The FBI released a detailed statement that was made in 1980 by a former NUMEC employee who said he started work at Apollo in February 1965 and was fired in October 1978 by the present owner, Babcock and Wilcox, Inc., for job abandonment following an alleged job-related illness. The former employee said he encountered armed strangers on the uranium plant’s loading dock one night in early 1965. He said they were loading what appeared to be canisters of HEU onto a truck in racks that he had not seen before. He also saw a shipping manifest that said the material was heading to a ship bound for Israel on the Zim-Israel shipping line. He said that a NUMEC manager later threatened him to keep his mouth shut about what he had seen. From the mid 1980s through 2009, the FBI also declassified some of its other reports from the 1960s and into the early 1970s. Those reports indicated that Zalman Shapiro, throughout the time he headed NUMEC, collaborated with a number of Israeli officials.

    Kennedy’s death marks the end of an era when Washington (sometimes) acted independently of Israel. From November 22, 1963 onward every US president has happily cooperated with Israel in foreign affairs.

    But then again I’m sure you know all of this history. I wonder though how many people have pondered its implications.

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    Thanks for posting that.

    People need to ask who profited from Kennedy's murder......Israel ....not Russia or Cuba.
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  59. the most salient quote in the world today…

    “… Even the generals in the Pentagon favor continuing it [the JCPOA] as do U.S. close allies Germany, France and Britain. The ability of Israel and its Lobby to dominate U.S. foreign policy formulation in certain areas is thereby exposed for what it is: sheer manipulation of our system of government by a small group dedicated to the interests of a foreign government using money and the political access that money buys to achieve that objective.”

    https://www.rt.com/news/425566-iran-netanyahu-presentation-response/

    …Israel has no right to comment on Iran’s nuclear activities as the Jewish state is not party to a non-proliferation agreement. Netanyahu and Israel “are in no position to accuse Iran of anything, they’re not part of the nuclear deal, they’re not even a member of the [Nuclear Proliferation Treaty],” Hamed Mousavi, Professor of political science at the University of Tehran, told RT.

    “And we have to remember that Israel is the only regime in the region that actually has nuclear weapons,” he concluded.

    I implore all readers to spread the word for people to do a minimal amount of research about these people that threaten the very existence of the biosphere on Earth (such a lovely little blue planet), the best place to start is “The Controversy…” by Douglas Reed
    You can find it online by using a search engine using those tags.
    Protect your identity.
    Avoid google.

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    Are The Koch Brothers and The Mercers Jewish? They have no qualms about destroying the Biosphere and they are Trump Supporters. I know Stephen Miller is Jewish and he's one of two people to miraculously survive Trump's Stalinesque Purges.

    If you're a Trump Supporter, you're an Israel Supporter and a Zionist Supporter and you're an enemy of the Palestinians and the imminent war with Iran is your doing by virtue of your support.
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  60. @Brabantian
    Big elephant in the room, is Russia's indulgence of Israel, letting the Israelis kill Iranians and others in Syria, as they just did despite Vladimir Putin's empty 'warning' to Netanyahu ... Putin who refuses to give Syria Russia's advanced missile defences that would block Israeli attacks on his alleged 'ally'

    A sentiment amongst Arabs & MidEast Muslims is that you cannot trust the white or European governments, they may help you in part out of self-interest (e.g., Russia in Syria), but they seem to always cut a deal with Israel

    V. Putin always chummy with 'Putin's Rabbi' Berel Lazar of the Mossad-tied Chabad Jewish religious cult, Putin a 'Russo-Zionist' who has Unz's 'The Saker' Andrei Raevsky distracting from Putin's deep Israeli ties

    But then there is Netanyahu's powerful new presentation re Iran
    https://justlearningman.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/coyote-united-nations-israel.jpg

    Russia & Israel are Birds of a Feather as far as I’m concerned. They both make EVERYTHING about them. It’s ALL about them. Always. How they’re a People. A Proud People with a Proud Heritage. Blah blah blah blah…..ad nauseum.

    Both of them also play the Victim Card in perpetuity and as cover for their Predations.

    It’s telling that NO ONE, whether it be The Mainstream Media or The Alternative Media, investigates the Nexus between Israel & Russia. Afterall, Israel is comprised of more than few Soviet/Russian Jews and Putin is very concerned about Russians in the Diaspora.

    https://www.jpost.com/International/US-surprised-Israel-did-support-UN-vote-on-Ukraines-territorial-integrity-348564

    Among the members that did not vote were Iran, Lebanon and Israel.

    https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Ukraine-thanks-Israel-for-support-on-Crimea-at-UN-515467

    In December 2016, Kiev voted for UN Resolution 2334, demanding that Israel cease “settlement activity,” which led to a short crisis between Jerusalem and Kiev, but things are now back on track.

    Israel, however, must balance its relations with Ukraine with Jerusalem’s close relations with Moscow.

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  61. SumDood says:

    Only an idiot thinks that Iran is honest. Only an idiot thinks that Iran has peaceful intentions. And only an idiot thinks that Iran under the mullahs is a better place for its citizens than Iran under the Shah.

    Iran has been attacking other countries and groups for decades. Do you people not remember the hostages? Attacking tankers in the gulf? Funding the Beirut barracks attack?

    If you want to whine about how bad America and Israel are, you need to find a “victim” that isn’t a bloodthirsty gang of Farsi terrorists.

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    Whatever the nature of the political rule in Iran, there's a signed multilateral agreement.
    Whatever you believe the intentions of the Iranians are, civilised people judge actions using evidence, not alleged intentions, notwithstanding that regarding intentions, I'd trust an Iranian over an Israeli any time.
    As for the "land bridge" to the Mediterranean, we common sense people call that a road and we believe roads are good for trade and therefore for peace.
    , @Cold N. Holefield

    And only an idiot thinks that Iran under the mullahs is a better place for its citizens than Iran under the Shah.
     
    I'll add.....

    And only an idiot thinks that Iran under the Shah was a better place for its citizens than Iran would have been under Mossadeq had the CIA not murdered him to reseat the Shah.
     
    , @annamaria
    Hey, hasbarist, have you forgotten this?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7uEXeByqhg&feature=youtu.be
    , @MarkinLA
    Only an idiot thinks that Iran is honest.

    Only an idiot thinks that Israel is honest. With two liars lying constantly, who to believe? Maybe it is best to tune both of them out and stay out of it..
    , @renfro

    Funding the Beirut barracks attack?
     
    Israel is responsible for the Beirut attack.

    https://www.wrmea.org/1995-march/israel-charged-with-systematic-harassment-of-u.s.-marines.html

    Israel Charged With Systematic Harassment of U.S. Marines
    By Donald Neff


    It was 12 years ago, on March 14, 1983, that the commandant of the Marine Corps sent a highly unusual letter to the secretary of defense expressing frustration and anger at Israel. General R.H. Barrow charged that Israeli troops were deliberately threatening the lives of Marines serving as peacekeepers in Lebanon. There was, he wrote, a systematic pattern of harassment by Israel Defense Forces (IDF) that was resulting in "life-threatening situations, replete with verbal degradation of the officers, their uniform and country."

    Barrow's letter added: "It is inconceivable to me why Americans serving in peacekeeping roles must be harassed, endangered by an ally...It is evident to me, and the opinion of the U.S. commanders afloat and ashore, that the incidents between the Marines and the IDF are timed, orchestrated, and executed for obtuse Israeli political purposes."1

    Israel's motives were less obtuse than the diplomatic general pretended. It was widely believed then, and now, that Israeli Defense Minister Ariel Sharon, one of Israel's most Machiavellian politician-generals, was creating the incidents deliberately in an effort to convince Washington that the two forces had to coordinate their actions in order to avoid such tensions. This, of course, would have been taken by the Arabs as proof that the Marines were not really in Lebanon as neutral peacekeepers but as allies of the Israelis, a perception that would have obvious advantages for Israel.2

    Barrow's extraordinary letter was indicative of the frustrations and miseries the Marines suffered during their posting to Lebanon starting on Aug. 25, 1982, as a result of Israel's invasion 11 weeks earlier. Initially a U.S. unit of 800 men was sent to Beirut harbor as part of a multinational force to monitor the evacuation of PLO guerrillas from Beirut.
    The Marines, President Reagan announced, "in no case... would stay longer than 30 days."3 This turned out to be only partly true. They did withdraw on Sept. 10, but a reinforced unit of 1,200 was rushed back 15 days later after the massacres at the Palestinian refugee camps at Sabra and Shatila that accompanied the Israeli seizure of West Beirut. The U.S. forces remained until Feb. 26, 1984.4
    During their-year-and-a-half posting in Lebanon, the Marines suffered 268 killed.5 The casualties started within a week of the return of the Marines in September 1982. On the 30th, a U.S.-made cluster bomb left behind by the Israelis exploded, killing Corporal David Reagan and wounding three other Marines.6

    Corporal Reagan's death represented the dangers of the new mission of the Marines in Lebanon. While their first brief stay had been to separate Israeli forces from Palestinian fighters evacuating West Beirut, their new mission was as part of a multinational force sent to prevent Israeli troops from attacking the Palestinian civilians left defenseless there after the withdrawal of PLO forces. As President Reagan said: "For this multinational force to succeed, it is essential that Israel withdraw from Beirut."7

    "Incidents are timed, orchestrated, and executed for Israeli political purposes."

    Israel's siege of Beirut during the summer of 1982 had been brutal and bloody, reaching a peak of horror on Aug. 12, quickly known as Black Thursday. On that day, Sharon's forces launched at dawn a massive artillery barrage that lasted for 11 straight hours and was accompanied by saturation air bombardment.8 As many as 500 persons, mainly Lebanese and Palestinian civilians, were killed.9

    On top of the bombardment came the massacres the next month at Sabra and Shatila, where Sharon's troops allowed Lebanese Maronite killers to enter the camps filled with defenseless civilians. The massacres sickened the international community and pressure from Western capitals finally forced Israel to withdraw from Beirut in late September. Troops from Britain, France, Italy and the United States were interposed between the Israeli army and Beirut, with U.S. Marines deployed in the most sensitive area south of Beirut at the International Airport, directly between Israeli troops and West Beirut.

    It was at the airport that the Marines would suffer their Calvary over the next year. Starting in January 1983, small Israeli units began probing the Marine lines. At first the effort appeared aimed at discovering the extent of Marine determination to resist penetration. The lines proved solid and the Marines' determination strong. Israeli troops were politely but firmly turned away. Soon the incidents escalated, with both sides pointing loaded weapons at each other but no firing taking place. Tensions were high enough by late January that a special meeting between U.S. and Israeli officers was held in Beirut to try to agree on precise boundaries beyond which the IDF would not penetrate.10

    No Stranger to the Marines

    However, on Feb. 2 a unit of three Israeli tanks, led by Israeli Lt. Col. Rafi Landsberg, tried to pass through Marine/Lebanese Army lines at Rayan University Library in south Lebanon. By this time, Landsberg was no stranger to the Marines. Since the beginning of January he had been leading small Israeli units in probes against the Marine lines, although such units would normally have a commander no higher than a sergeant or lieutenant. The suspicion grew that Sharon's troops were deliberately provoking the Marines and Landsberg was there to see that things did not get out of hand. The Israeli tactics were aimed more at forcing a joint U.S.-Israeli strategy than merely probing lines.

    In the Feb. 2 incident, the checkpoint was commanded by Marine Capt. Charles Johnson, who firmly refused permission for Landsberg to advance. When two of the Israeli tanks ignored his warning to halt, Johnson leaped on Landsberg's tank with pistol drawn and demanded Landsberg and his tanks withdraw. They did.11

    Landsberg and the Israeli embassy in Washington tried to laugh off the incident, implying that Johnson was a trigger-happy John Wayne type and that the media were exaggerating a routine event. Landsberg even went so far as to claim that he smelled alcohol on Johnson's breath and that drunkenness must have clouded his reason. Marines were infuriated because Johnson was well known as a teetotaler. Americans flocked to Johnson's side. He received hundreds of letters from school children, former Marines and from Commandant Barrow.12 It was a losing battle for the Israelis and Landsberg soon dropped from sight.

    But the incidents did not stop. These now included "helicopter harassment," by which U.S.-made helicopters with glaring spotlights were flown by the Israelis over Marine positions at night, illuminating Marine outposts and exposing them to potential attack. As reports of these incidents piled up, Gen. Barrow received a letter on March 12 from a U.S. Army major stationed in Lebanon with the United Nations Truce Supervisory Organization (UNTSO). The letter described a systematic pattern of Israeli attacks and provocations against UNTSO troops, including instances in which U.S. officers were singled out for "near-miss" shootings, abuse and detention.13 That same day two Marine patrols were challenged and cursed by Israeli soldiers.1


    Two days later Barrow wrote his letter to Secretary of Defense Caspar W. Weinberger, who endorsed it and sent it along to the State Department. High-level meetings were arranged and the incidents abated, perhaps largely because by this time Ariel Sharon had been fired as defense minister. He had been found by an Israeli commission to have had "personal responsibility" for the Sabra and Shatila massacres.15
    Despite the bad taste left from the clashes with the Israelis, in fact no Marines had been killed in the incidents and their lines had been secure up to the end of winter in 1983. Then Islamic guerrillas, backed by Iran, became active. On the night of April 17, 1983, an unknown sniper fired a shot that went through the trousers of a Marine sentry but did not harm him. For the first time, the Marines returned fire.16

    The next day, the U.S. Embassy in Beirut was blown up by a massive bomb, with the loss of 63 lives. Among the 17 Americans killed were CIA Mideast specialists, including Robert C. Ames, the agency's top Middle East expert.17

    Disaffected former Israeli Mossad case officer Victor Ostrovsky later claimed that Israel had advance information about the bombing plan but had decided not to inform the United States, a claim denied by Israel.18 The Iranian-backed Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility. Veteran correspondent John Cooley considered the attack "the day [Iranian leader Ayatollah] Khomeini's offensive against America in Lebanon began in earnest." 19
    Still, it was not until four months later, on Aug. 28, that Marines came under direct fire by rocket-propelled grenades and automatic weapons at International Airport. They returned fire with M-16 rifles and M-60 machine guns. The firefight resumed the next day with Marines firing 155mm artillery, 81mm mortars and rockets from Cobra helicopter gunships against Shi'i Muslim positions. Two Marines were killed and 14 wounded in the exchange, the first casualties in actual combat since the Marines had landed the previous year.20

    From this time on, the combat involvement of the Marines grew. Their actions were generally seen as siding with Israel against Muslims, slowly changing the status of the Marines as neutral peacekeepers to opponents of the Muslims.21 Israel could hardly have wished for more. The polarization meant that increasingly the conflict was being perceived in terms of the U.S., Israel and Lebanon's Christians against Iran, Islam and Lebanon's Shi'i Muslims.
    Accelerating the Conflict

    Israel accelerated the building conflict on Sept. 3, 1993 by unilaterally withdrawing its troops southward, leaving the Marines exposed behind their thin lines at the airport. The United States had asked the Israeli government to delay its withdrawal until the Marines could be replaced by units of the Lebanese army, but Israel refused.22 The result was as feared. Heavy fighting immediately broke out between the Christian Lebanese Forces and the pro-Syrian Druze units, both seeking to occupy positions evacuated by Israel, while the Marines were left in the crossfire. 23On Sept. 5, two Marines were killed and three wounded as fighting escalated between Christian and Muslim militias.24
    In an ill-considered effort to subdue the combat, the Sixth Fleet frigate Bowen fired several five-inch naval guns, hitting Druze artillery positions in the Chouf Mountains that were firing into the Marine compound at Beirut airport.25 It was the first time U.S. ships had fired into Lebanon, dramatically raising the level of combat. But the Marines' exposed location on the flat terrain of the airport left them in an impossible position. On Sept. 12, three more Marines were wounded. 26
    On Sept. 13, President Reagan authorized what was called aggressive self-defense for the Marines, including air and naval strikes.27 Five days later the United States essentially joined the war against the Muslims when four U.S. warships unleashed the heaviest naval bombardment since Vietnam into Syrian and Druze positions in eastern Lebanon in support of the Lebanese Christians.28 The bombardment lasted for three days and was personally ordered by National Security Council director Robert McFarlane, a Marine Corps officer detailed to the White House who was in Lebanon at the time and was also a strong supporter of Israel and its Lebanese Maronite Christian allies. McFarlane issued the order despite the fact that the Marine commander at the airport, Colonel Timothy Geraghty, strenuously argued against it because, in the words of correspondent Thomas L. Friedman, "he knew that it would make his soldiers party to what was now clearly an intra-Lebanese fight, and that the Lebanese Muslims would not retaliate against the Navy's ships at sea but against the Marines on shore." 29

    By now, the Marines were under daily attack and Muslims were charging they were no longer neutral.30 At the same time the battleship USS New Jersey, with 16-inch guns, arrived off Lebanon, increasing the number of U.S. warships offshore to 14. Similarly, the Marine contingent at Beirut airport was increased from 1,200 to 1,600.31

    A Tragic Climax
    The fight now was truly joined between the Shi'i Muslims and the Marines, who were essentially pinned down in their airport bunkers and under orders not to take offensive actions. The tragic climax of their predicament came on Oct. 23, when a Muslim guerrilla drove a truck past guards at the Marine airport compound and detonated an explosive with the force of 12,000 pounds of dynamite under a building housing Marines and other U.S. personnel. Almost simultaneously, a car-bomb exploded at the French compound in Beirut. Casualties were 241 Americans and 58 French troops killed. The bombings were the work of Hezbollah, made up of Shi'i Muslim guerrillas supported by Iran.32
    America's agony increased on Dec. 3, when two carrier planes were downed by Syrian missiles during heavy U.S. air raids on eastern Lebanon.33On the same day, eight Marines were killed in fighting with Muslim militiamen around the Beirut airport.34
    By the start of 1984, an all-out Shi'i Muslim campaign to rid Lebanon of all Americans was underway. The highly respected president of the American University of Beirut, Dr. Malcolm Kerr, a distinguished scholar of the Arab world, was gunned down on Jan. 18 outside his office by Islamic militants aligned with Iran.35

    On Feb. 5, Reagan made one of his stand-tall speeches by saying that "the situation in Lebanon is difficult, frustrating and dangerous. But this is no reason to turn our backs on friends and to cut and run."36
    The next day Professor Frank Regier, a U.S. citizen teaching at AUB, was kidnapped by Muslim radicals.37 Regier's kidnapping was the beginning of a series of kidnappings of Americans in Beirut that would hound the Reagan and later the Bush administrations for years and lead to the eventual expulsion of nearly all Americans from Lebanon where they had prospered for more than a century. Even today Americans still are prohibited from traveling to Lebanon.
    The day after Regier's kidnapping, on Feb. 7, 1984, Reagan suddenly reversed himself and announced that all U.S. Marines would shortly be "redeployed." The next day the battleship USS New Jersey fired 290 rounds of one-ton shells from its 16-inch guns into Lebanon as a final act of U.S. frustration.38 Reagan's "redeployment" was completed by Feb. 26, when the last of the Marines retreated from Lebanon.
    The mission of the Marines had been a humiliating failure—not because they failed in their duty but because the political backbone in Washington was lacking. The Marines had arrived in 1982 with all sides welcoming them. They left in 1984 despised by many and the object of attacks by Muslims. Even relations with Israel were strained, if not in Washington where a sympathetic Congress granted increased aid to the Jewish state to compensate it for the costs of its bungled invasion, then between the Marines and Israeli troops who had confronted each other in a realpolitik battlefield that was beyond their competence or understanding. The Marine experience in Lebanon did not contribute toward a favorable impression of Israel among many Americans, especially since the Marines would not have been in Lebanon except for Israel's unprovoked invasion.
    This negative result is perhaps one reason a number of Israelis and their supporters today oppose sending U.S. peacekeepers to the Golan Heights as part of a possible Israeli-Syrian peace treaty. A repeat of the 1982-84 experience would certainly not be in Israel's interests at a time when its supporters are seeking to have a budget-conscious Congress continue unprecedented amounts of aid to Israel.
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  62. Had to laugh. This has been clear for as long as the US Government has made treaties with the Native Nations.
    “They and others also have noted that U.S. exit from the agreement will mean that other nations will negotiate with Washington with the understanding that a legal commitment entered into by the President of the United States cannot be trusted after he is out of office.”

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  63. For all the people who are warning me how the evil foreign Zionazis run America, let’s look how your fearless leader Bibi got his start. Recruited at MIT, immediate big job with BCG, the Mormon spooks’ slush fund, then prompt, inexplicable Obama-style preferment by DCI Bush and NOCmeister Schultz, then up like a rocket.

    “Netanyahu was spotted at MIT in 1973 and the grooming began there when he was in his early twenties. After graduating, he received a high paying job at Boston Consulting. His boss was Ira Magaziner (CFR). But he quit the job in 1979, returned to Israel, starting selling furniture at the Rim company, then organized an anti-terror convention. Inexplicably, the CFR sent a team of their biggest guns including George Bush Sr, Richard Perle and George Shultz to this unknown 27 year old’s get-together. Once the convention was over, Netanyahu returned to work selling home furniture for three years until 1982, when Washington Ambassador Moshe Arens invited him to be his deputy. He claimed the choice was indirectly made by those who came to his convention and “were impressed with his performance.” That means Bush and Shultz pressed Arens to bring Bibi to Washington. From there, they pushed his career higher. In 1985, Shultz chaired another anti-terror convention in Washington supposedly organized by Netanyahu. By the time Bibi was UN Ambassador, Schultz visited him every time he was in New York, and that was often.”

    http://thebarrychamishwebsite.com/newsletters/elad.htm

    So don’t gimme this Jew business. Netanyahu is CIA’s homonculus. Israel will cease to exist the instant they quit doing CIA’s dirty work. CIA says jump and Israel says how high. The whole US government says how high. This all comes back to your National Command Authority, which is CIA.

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    Very good , I allways wondered about who was in command USA or Israel
    , @Seamus Padraig
    Bibi wasn't elevated to anything by the CIA; he was already Zionist royalty, his father having been Ze'ev Jabotinsky's personal secretary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzion_Netanyahu

    (Jabotinsky--for those who don't know--was a radical Zionist who fought with the Irgun terrorist group against the Brits, and it was he who first came up with the 'Greater Israel' plan that the Netanyahoos have dedicated themselves to ever since.)

    Bibi's older brother Yonatan was a commander of an elite IDF commando unit which successfully staged a raid at Entebbe, Unganda in 1976. Yonatan probably was the heir-apparent, but alas, he was killed during the raid, so Bibi had to fill in.

    Nice try, hasba-rat! Now go peddle your Noam-Chomsky nonsense elsewhere ...

    , @renfro
    Oh, here we go again.. the old CIA did it meme...the jooos are innocent, innocent I tell you!

    I've heard them all.....the US uses Israel to 'colonize' Palestine, the Israel Palestine fight is the evil white man's fault for holocausting the jews, the US uses Israel to 'expand its empire', the WASP are controlling the Jews......ad nausea.
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  64. @Jake
    Anglo-Wahhabi-Zionist scam

    Perfect turn of phrase. But make certain to stress that the means to today's alliance were planted in the 19th century by the Brits.

    @ Jake

    Hi,

    you seem to have some invaluable knowledge that I’m after. Can you please get in touch via other means so that we can discuss this ?

    My E-mail: [email protected]

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  65. Vojkan says:
    @SumDood
    Only an idiot thinks that Iran is honest. Only an idiot thinks that Iran has peaceful intentions. And only an idiot thinks that Iran under the mullahs is a better place for its citizens than Iran under the Shah.

    Iran has been attacking other countries and groups for decades. Do you people not remember the hostages? Attacking tankers in the gulf? Funding the Beirut barracks attack?

    If you want to whine about how bad America and Israel are, you need to find a "victim" that isn't a bloodthirsty gang of Farsi terrorists.

    Whatever the nature of the political rule in Iran, there’s a signed multilateral agreement.
    Whatever you believe the intentions of the Iranians are, civilised people judge actions using evidence, not alleged intentions, notwithstanding that regarding intentions, I’d trust an Iranian over an Israeli any time.
    As for the “land bridge” to the Mediterranean, we common sense people call that a road and we believe roads are good for trade and therefore for peace.

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    @vojkan "there’s a signed multilateral agreement."

    Like the ironclad German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact? I bet you think "Gun Free Zone" signs actually keep guns out, right?

    In any case, the agreement you reference is about to end. We have no obligation to honor it after it expires.

    "civilised people judge actions using evidence, not alleged intentions,"

    Civilized people don't lie pathologically. Civilized people don't violate the embassy of a sovereign nation and take hostages.
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  66. anon[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist
    Trump is a nutless, brainless asshole. He truly is a Zionist puppet.

    That makes two of them. Macron is a Rothschild stooge.

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    Rich Zionists have many sycophants.
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  67. Joe Hide says:

    Mr. Giraldi,
    I generally like Your work.
    Let’s look at this logically though.
    North Korea is not launching missiles overs Japanese waters or doing nuclear testing. Is it a coincidence that this happened under Trump’s short time in office. Ditto for the Syrian and Iraq terrorists being de-funded, weapons shipments being stopped, and satellite /drone / etc military info sources canceled… with their forces then being crushed? Ditto for the massive governmental changes in Saudi Arabia? Ditto for FAIRER trade agreements with China. Ditto for unemployment rates for AfroAmericans being the lowest in decades? ….ON and ON..
    So why assume that because French president ..Macaroni.., who is a former Rothchild banker, has any integrity in his opinions about Iran?
    The poor Iranians, like the North Koreans, Syrians, and Iraqis, have suffered enough. My assumption here is that the Iranian people will one day idolize Donald Trump, for saving them from their oppressors. These oppressors include their own religious hierarchy, the international bankers, the globalists, the Obama’s, the Bushes, the Clinton’s, and other pychopathic and narrissitic power hungry predators. Of course Trump, is just the tip of the spear. We know that components of the military, intelligence services, and other powerful forces are openly and secretly supporting this movement toward transformation.

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  68. @SumDood
    Only an idiot thinks that Iran is honest. Only an idiot thinks that Iran has peaceful intentions. And only an idiot thinks that Iran under the mullahs is a better place for its citizens than Iran under the Shah.

    Iran has been attacking other countries and groups for decades. Do you people not remember the hostages? Attacking tankers in the gulf? Funding the Beirut barracks attack?

    If you want to whine about how bad America and Israel are, you need to find a "victim" that isn't a bloodthirsty gang of Farsi terrorists.

    And only an idiot thinks that Iran under the mullahs is a better place for its citizens than Iran under the Shah.

    I’ll add…..

    And only an idiot thinks that Iran under the Shah was a better place for its citizens than Iran would have been under Mossadeq had the CIA not murdered him to reseat the Shah.

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    @ Colon Holefield

    "And only an idiot thinks that Iran under the Shah was a better place for its citizens than Iran would have been under Mossadeq had the CIA not murdered him to reseat the Shah."

    How many women were beaten for not wearing a burka when the Shah was in charge?

    What was Iran's GDP when the Shah was in charge, and what is it now, after decades of mullahs running things?

    And maybe you're the kind of creature that thinks that a KGB asset like Mossadegh is a perfectly good candidate.

    Don't waste peoples time on your dizzy idealism. If everyone is bought, a smart strategy is to make sure WE do the buying.
    , @Johnny Rico

    "...would have been under Mossadeq had the CIA not murdered him..."
     
    Mossadeq was never murdered. He died at the age of 84 under house arrest in his own house in 1967, 14 years after the coup I think you might be talking about.
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  69. @Dissident X
    the most salient quote in the world today...

    "... Even the generals in the Pentagon favor continuing it [the JCPOA] as do U.S. close allies Germany, France and Britain. The ability of Israel and its Lobby to dominate U.S. foreign policy formulation in certain areas is thereby exposed for what it is: sheer manipulation of our system of government by a small group dedicated to the interests of a foreign government using money and the political access that money buys to achieve that objective."
     


    https://www.rt.com/news/425566-iran-netanyahu-presentation-response/

    ...Israel has no right to comment on Iran’s nuclear activities as the Jewish state is not party to a non-proliferation agreement. Netanyahu and Israel “are in no position to accuse Iran of anything, they’re not part of the nuclear deal, they’re not even a member of the [Nuclear Proliferation Treaty],” Hamed Mousavi, Professor of political science at the University of Tehran, told RT.

    “And we have to remember that Israel is the only regime in the region that actually has nuclear weapons,” he concluded.
     


    I implore all readers to spread the word for people to do a minimal amount of research about these people that threaten the very existence of the biosphere on Earth (such a lovely little blue planet), the best place to start is "The Controversy..." by Douglas Reed
    You can find it online by using a search engine using those tags.
    Protect your identity.
    Avoid google.

    Are The Koch Brothers and The Mercers Jewish? They have no qualms about destroying the Biosphere and they are Trump Supporters. I know Stephen Miller is Jewish and he’s one of two people to miraculously survive Trump’s Stalinesque Purges.

    If you’re a Trump Supporter, you’re an Israel Supporter and a Zionist Supporter and you’re an enemy of the Palestinians and the imminent war with Iran is your doing by virtue of your support.

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    Your comment is gibberish, in the context of my comment, and it makes me doubt that you are a real, individual person.

    You have no idea what I do or don't support, above and beyond my belief that the more people who know about the 2500 years of the Torah-Pharisees-Talmud adherents objectives and methods, the better off the world will be.

    I encourage you to read "The Controversy...", by Douglas Reed, and thereby educate yourself.

    If you are real person, please explain your gibberish, and/or refrain from commenting on my comments, in the future.

    BTW: though I see no relevance to my comment, whatsoever, I am no particular supporter of the current POTUS, beyond the fact that he won the contest as fairly as it is won, according the way the actual system works; that is definitely NOT to say that I support or believe in said system. And I will say that at the time I believed he was less bad than his cheating opponent in the general election, and I have not changed that belief.


    Shill-be-gone!
    , @anon
    Are The Koch Brothers and The Mercers Jewish?

    Can they survive without supporting each and every Jewish agenda? Can they make money unless they wet their toes in the cesspool operated ,maintained,and enriched by the Jewish monetary system of control?

    They can't.
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  70. @Bodyguard of Ois
    For all the people who are warning me how the evil foreign Zionazis run America, let's look how your fearless leader Bibi got his start. Recruited at MIT, immediate big job with BCG, the Mormon spooks' slush fund, then prompt, inexplicable Obama-style preferment by DCI Bush and NOCmeister Schultz, then up like a rocket.

    “Netanyahu was spotted at MIT in 1973 and the grooming began there when he was in his early twenties. After graduating, he received a high paying job at Boston Consulting. His boss was Ira Magaziner (CFR). But he quit the job in 1979, returned to Israel, starting selling furniture at the Rim company, then organized an anti-terror convention. Inexplicably, the CFR sent a team of their biggest guns including George Bush Sr, Richard Perle and George Shultz to this unknown 27 year old’s get-together. Once the convention was over, Netanyahu returned to work selling home furniture for three years until 1982, when Washington Ambassador Moshe Arens invited him to be his deputy. He claimed the choice was indirectly made by those who came to his convention and “were impressed with his performance.” That means Bush and Shultz pressed Arens to bring Bibi to Washington. From there, they pushed his career higher. In 1985, Shultz chaired another anti-terror convention in Washington supposedly organized by Netanyahu. By the time Bibi was UN Ambassador, Schultz visited him every time he was in New York, and that was often.”

    http://thebarrychamishwebsite.com/newsletters/elad.htm

    So don't gimme this Jew business. Netanyahu is CIA's homonculus. Israel will cease to exist the instant they quit doing CIA's dirty work. CIA says jump and Israel says how high. The whole US government says how high. This all comes back to your National Command Authority, which is CIA.

    Very good , I allways wondered about who was in command USA or Israel

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  71. Jake says:
    @Johnny Smoggins
    Jews are religious psychopaths and so are Moslems. Why exactly is it better to have the former, rather than the latter, be the big dog in the Middle East?

    For all their other faults, I don't recall Moslems in the West trying to take over the media, entertainment industry, education and financial systems and government in order to undermine and ultimately destroy the host nation and advance their own race.

    That is because the inheritors of the Ishmaelite/Islamic part of Semitic culture operate differently than does the Jewish part.

    But it is foolish unto death to assume that they are not at least equally rotten and equally ruinous.

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    I'm under no illusions about Moslems, friend. I want neither in the West at all. But too many Whites, mostly stupid Christ cuck types, act as apologists for the Jews and Israelis and allow them to get away with far too much.
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  72. @Johnny Smoggins
    Jews are religious psychopaths and so are Moslems. Why exactly is it better to have the former, rather than the latter, be the big dog in the Middle East?

    For all their other faults, I don't recall Moslems in the West trying to take over the media, entertainment industry, education and financial systems and government in order to undermine and ultimately destroy the host nation and advance their own race.

    With notable objectivity, Johnny Smoggins wrote:
    “For all their other faults, I don’t recall Moslems in the West trying to take over the media… in order to undermine and ultimately destroy the host nation and advance their own race.”

    Hi Johnny Smoggins,

    Bingo! A totalitarian control-priority (characteristic) is media takeover.

    America’s mighty Jewish Corporate Media had the advantage of an expert “blueprint” to follow, & of course, unlimited financial means & devotional will to do it.

    Please consider perusing “Protocols of Zion,” in particular

    [MORE]
    # 12, (published in Russia, 1905), & linked below?

    http://crowds.virginia.edu/ma01/Kidd/thesis/pdf/Protocols.pdf

    Libya’s & anti-Zionist Colonel Qaddafi wrote a “Green Book” designed to help direct Islamic nations in developing society’s based upon Allah’s “Protocols,” the Quran.*

    Soon after Qaddafi’s barbaric murder, no one here @ U.R. requires reminder of how ZUS Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, boasted about the evil deed in a now famous “sound bite”?

    Thanks, Smoggins!

    *. For those interested, Cynthia McKinney has written valuable articles on the late-Qaddafi’s humane social engineering plans.
    Forgive me had I misidentified the works as “Green Book”? Likely U.R. commenter “Talha” knows more & better than I.

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    "Please consider perusing “Protocols of Zion,”

    I own a copy. What's most unsettling about that book, fraud or not, is how perfectly it describes the machinations of organized Jewry.
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  73. MarkinLA says:
    @Cloak And Dagger
    Well, Trump’s trumpeting that he was 100% correct about Iran after Netanyahu’s latest lies about Iran could go in one of two ways:

    1. Despite knowing that Netanyahu is lying through his teeth about Iran’s nuclear aspirations (while avoiding any mention of Israel’s own stolen nukes), Trump could use this as a fig leaf and choose to pull out of the Iran deal. The timing of this coincides with Iran dropping the dollar, the same thing Ghadaffy and Saddam did before getting destroyed. Interestingly, Russia and China may drop the dollar too. It is unlikely that they will pull out of the deal. The UK and France might, but Germany probably won’t as its interests lie with Russia. So, even if the US pulls out of the deal, Iran still wins, and Israel/US become increasingly isolated.

    2. Trump is just blowing smoke and won’t pull out of the deal, or maybe, congress won’t let him. Constitutionally, the Iran deal is a treaty, and I believe congress (Israeli territory) has a say in it – but they have not really been upholding the Constitution, so that may not matter. But, assuming he does not tear up the deal, Iran still wins.

    So, either way the wind blows, it really doesn’t matter to Iran. We are a has-been power.

    Constitutionally, the Iran deal is a treaty,

    I am not so sure about that. It was never voted on in the affirmative with a 2/3 Senate vote. They had a goofy vote where it only could be undone by a 2/3 Senate vote. Every treaty we seem to have done (like NAFTA) has never followed the Constitution for treaties. They pretend it is something else and only a simply majority in Congress is needed.

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  74. What might be in the Cohen files captured by FBI?

    Would the American people “forgive” him for whatever those sins were/are?

    In 50 years, what would be remembered most about Trump, that he diddled little boys on some Russsian Jewish oligarch’s yacht, or that he gave the green light to US men & women to be diddled by zionist Jews and their shabbas goy to destroy Iran for the benefit of Israel, after which those same zionist Jews will pull the plug on Wall Street, abandon the USA if not actively set out to destroy it, as zionists and banksters move on to better opportunities.

    We’ve seen this play before, quite a few times and over millennia, and the ending was always the same: the state that hosted Jews ended up destroyed by those Jews, and those Jews benefited and moved on to plow fresh fields.

    We are told that zionist Jews pray Psalm 137 every day; Rabbi Marvin Heir, founder of the Wiesenthal Center, recited verses from Psalm 137 in the invocation at Trump’s inauguration –

    ” “By the rivers of Babylon, we wept as we remembered Zion… If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, may my right hand forget its skill. The do-er of all these shall never falter,” Hier said, the words taken from the Biblical Psalm 137. . . .
    Hier . . . believed to be the first rabbi to speak at a presidential inauguration since 1985. . . .
    has known the parents of Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner for decades. . . . have also been generous donors to the Simon Wiesenthal Center. . . .”

    Hier did not recite the ending verses of Ps. 137:

    Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction,
    happy is the one who repays you
    according to what you have done to us.
    Happy is the one who seizes your infants
    and dashes them against the rocks.

    Our latest grandchild is not yet 3 months old.

    Susan Rice’s mushroom cloud imagery was phantasmagorical and calculated to induce fear.

    Biblical images conjured by “seizing your infants and dashing them agains the rocks,” and “slaying the first-born of Egyptians” and “slaying the ten sons of Haman and 75 000 innocent Persian” may or may not be mythical; it is certain that these scenes form a central part of Jewish religious celebration.

    It is equally certain that Jews in Israel target Palestinian children, TODAY, to maim them or to kill them

    h/t http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/the-idf-is-the-most-moral-army-in-the-world-decameron-wonders-whatever-happened-to-human-rights.html

    Based on Israel’s own YNet News, https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html, it is certain that Jews carried out mass killings of millions of Russians and Ukrainians.

    Ronen Bergman has written and spoken of Israel’s use of assassination “more than any other nation,” to “change history.”

    At what point must we see a pattern and take it seriously?

    When do Christians run out of cheeks and turn, instead, to ensuring a safe future for their “posterity?”

    Isn’t that what United States founding documents promised, and isn’t that why we spend so much of our treasure and energy — to ensure that OUR posterity — our grandchildren — can grow up free of fear of having their brains dashed against the rocks in service to a psychopathic god?

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    "Ronen Bergman has written and spoken of Israel’s use of assassination “more than any other nation,” to “change history.”"

    And then the Jews spread the rumors of the existence of a secret cult- that works and has been working for centuries assassinating dissidents and leaders . They live in Iraq and Iran They smoke Hashish and they assassinate after being duped by the mixture of the religion and the smoke.
    , @renfro
    BRAVO !!!!!
    , @renfro

    Ronen Bergman has written and spoken of Israel’s use of assassination “more than any other nation,” to “change history.”
     
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/19/book-review-rise-and-kill-first-by-ronen-bergman/

    ”RISE AND KILL FIRST”
    By Ronen Bergman
    Random House, $35, 784 pages


    I believe assassinations of select fifth columnist would be a very moral choice for ridding the US of our Israel problem.
    , @renfro

    What might be in the Cohen files captured by FBI?
     
    A lot.
    Trump is pulling out all the stops to paint Cohen as a liar ....that he lie to the NYDA about Trump's dealings so he get a better deal with them on any sentence he may get.

    Trump is scared shitless over what Cohen knows but thinks he can threaten and bombast his way out as he has done in the past.

    If Cohen has any sense he will sing like a bird.

    Cohen responds to message sent by National Enquirer cover

    http://www.newsweek.com/michael-cohen-trump-national-enquirer-907593

    Washington (CNN)

    A National Enquirer cover story targeting Michael Cohen could be a strong sign President Donald Trump is upset with his personal lawyer and turning against the man known for years as his "fixer," a source close to Trump said.

    According to the source, Enquirer publisher David Pecker, who is a longtime friend of Trump's, would not have allowed the publication of the story -- which featured a headline including the phrase "Trump's Fixer's Secrets & Lies" -- without the President's blessing.

    When asked whether he thought a message was being sent by the story's publication, Cohen told CNN: "What do you think."
    , @Cloak And Dagger
    Awesome as usual!
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  75. chris says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    A pity PG published before hearing the latest whether Netanyshu's news is true or false - not that he could have anticipated it.

    I had just come across a circular current affairs email from a former very senior Australian public servant with interests in Foreign Affairs and Treasury matters. I have done my best to extract the relevant parts to paste below. To save time you could go straight to "Netanyahu". I would be interested in your or PG's analysis. It seems unlikely that the documents would all be fake but if some have been "adjusted" you might find yourself searching for the fake as a needle in a haystack.


    Israel’s Discovery of Secret Iranian Nuclear Policy

    It is difficult to understate the importance of Israel’s “discovery” that, after in 2005 Iran signed a deal with the US (under Obama) and major European countries, it did not in fact comply with the agreed restrictions on its nuclear activity in return for the lifting of sanctions which included considerable US dollar “reserves”. The press conference by Israel PM Netanyahu and initial reactions from Trump are reported in the attached Trump on Iran. This report appeared in my inbox at about 10 am this morning but was not mentioned on “our” ABC’s lunch time news. Another one for CEO Michelle Guthrie to explain.

    Israeli PM Netanyahu told the press conference in Jerusalem that “After signing the nuclear deal in 2015, Iran intensified its efforts to hide its secret files,” he said. “In 2017 Iran moved its nuclear weapons files to a highly secret location in Tehran.”It is amazing that Mossad was able to penetrate the Iranian hiding place and then smuggle the 55,000 pages of documents and 183 CDs back to Israel. Netanyahu rightly describes Israel’s ability to acquire the archive as marking “a massive intelligence coup”.

    The “atomic archive” was compiled by Iran with the express purpose of preserving its secretive nuclear weapons plan known as Project Amad, which aimed to “design, produce and test… five warheads, each with a 10 kiloton TNT yield, for integration on a missile. “That is like five Hiroshima bombs to be put on ballistic missiles,” asserted Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu outlined Project Amad as containing five key elements described by the Times of Israel thusly: “Designing

    [I lost something here]

    Trump Proclaims Netanyahu Announcement on Iran Shows ‘I’ve Been 100% Right’
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    President Donald Trump listens during a news conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel in the East Room of the White House, Friday, April 27, 2018, in Washington. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

    AP Photo/Evan Vucci

    by MICHELLE MOONS30 Apr 2018Washington, DC2,238

    From a White House Rose Garden podium this afternoon, President Donald Trump declared that he has been “100 percent right” on continued Iran nuclear development and brand new evidence from the Israeli Prime Minister proves that.
    Moments before President Trump and Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari held a joint press conference in the White House Rose Garden on Monday afternoon, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu took to televisionairwaves.

    Netanyahu announced that he was in possession of intelligence that proves Tehran has been running a secret nuclear weapons development program (see report below on what Netanyahu said).

    President Trump was asked about Netanyahu’s announcement moments later during the joint press conference. He was also asked if he had made a decision on whether to pull out of the Iranian nuclear deal and if Trump does decide to pull out, does it send the wrong message to North Korea regarding a potential nuclear deal there.

    “No, I think it sends the right message,” remarked Trump. “In seven years that deal will have expired and Iran is free to go ahead and create nuclear weapons. That’s not acceptable. Seven years is tomorrow.”

    “If anything it’s proven right, what Israel has done today with the news conference and Prime Minister Netanyahu just gave a very … I got to see a little bit of it,” said Trump. “That is just not an acceptable situation.”

    “I’ve been saying that’s happening,” said Trump. “They’re not sitting back idly they’re setting off missiles which they say are for television purposes. I don’t think so.”

    “We’ll see what happens,” said Trump who remarked that many have said they believe they know what he’s going to do, hinting that they believe he is going to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal. A decision on whether to pull out will be made on or before May 12.

    “That doesn’t mean we won’t negotiate a real agreement,” President Trump assured. He added that the current agreement “wasn’t approved by too many people and it’s a horrible agreement for the United States, including the fact, Mr. President [Buhari], that we gave Iran 150 billion dollars and 1.8 billion in cash. Nigeria would like some of that.”

    “You know what we got? We got nothing,” Trump said of the Iran deal.

    Trump concluded, “I think if anything, what’s happening today and what’s happened over the last little while and what we’ve learned has really shown that I’ve been 100 percent right.”

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    Watch: Netanyahu – 100,000 Secret Files Prove Iran ‘Lied Big Time’ About Nukes
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    by AARON KLEIN30 Apr 201811,417

    TEL AVIV — In a dramatic press conference in Jerusalem aimed at the international community, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday unveiled a cache of secret files he says were obtained from inside a hidden Iranian site and clearly demonstrate that Tehran maintained a secret nuclear weapons program despite declarations to the contrary.
    Netanyahu explained that the structure of the U.S.-led international nuclear agreement was in part based on deceptive Iranian descriptions of its previous nuclear work. He said Iran’s failure to disclose its secret program while misleading the world shows the nuclear deal is “based on lies based on Iranian deception.”

    The Israeli leader presented evidence that Iran continued research for a nuclear weapons program even after signing the 2015 nuclear deal.

    “Iran’s leaders repeatedly deny ever pursuing nuclear weapons,” Netanyahu began. “Tonight I’m here to tell you one thing: Iran lied.”

    “After signing the nuclear deal in 2015, Iran intensified its efforts to hide its secret files,” he said. “In 2017 Iran moved its nuclear weapons files to a highly secret location in Tehran.”

    Netanyahu said the secret nuclear files prove the following:

    Iran lied about never having a secret nuclear program. Second, even after the deal it continued to expand its nuclear program for future use. Third, Iran lied by not coming clean to the IAEA. Finally, the nuclear deal is based on lies based on Iranian deception.

    The prime minister’s speech was based on 55,000 pages of documents and 183 CDs that Netanyahu said were smuggled out of an “atomic archive” painstakingly preserving Iran’s secretive nuclear program so that the country would have the option of restarting its nuclear weapons activities after the nuclear deal expires or in the case of Tehran prematurely bolting the agreement. Israel’s ability to acquire the archive marks a massive intelligence coup for the Jewish state.

    “Iran lied. Big time,” Netanyahu said of the half-ton of material obtained by Israel.

    The trove, Netanyahu added, contains “incriminating documents, incriminating charts, incriminating presentations, incriminating blueprints, incriminating photos, incriminating videos and more.”

    He said Israel shared the material with the U.S., and that “the United States can vouch for its authenticity.”

    The “atomic archive” was compiled by Iran with the express purpose of preserving its secretive nuclear weapons plan known as Project Amad, which aimed to “design, produce and test… five warheads, each with a 10 kiloton TNT yield, for integration on a missile.”

    “That is like five Hiroshima bombs to be put on ballistic missiles,” asserted Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu outlined Project Amad as containing five key elements described by the Times of Israel thusly: “Designing nuclear weapons, developing nuclear cores, building nuclear implosion systems, preparing nuclear tests and integrating nuclear warheads on missiles.”

    Netanyahu said that in 2003, Iran shut down the version of Project Amad that existed at the time and instead divided its nuclear program into both covert and overt components. Besides archiving the material for future use, Netanyahu said Iran continued to research nuclear weapons.

    Netanyahu called on President Donald Trump to “do the right thing” as the May 12 deadline to recertify the nuclear agreement approaches.

    “The right thing for the United States. The right thing for Israel. And the right thing for the peace of the world,” he concluded.

    ”It is amazing that Mossad was able to penetrate the Iranian hiding place and then smuggle the 55,000 pages of documents and 183 CDs back to Israel.

    I like that: Mossad was able to smuggle the documents “back” to Israel, … where they originally came from.

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  76. @Cold N. Holefield
    Are The Koch Brothers and The Mercers Jewish? They have no qualms about destroying the Biosphere and they are Trump Supporters. I know Stephen Miller is Jewish and he's one of two people to miraculously survive Trump's Stalinesque Purges.

    If you're a Trump Supporter, you're an Israel Supporter and a Zionist Supporter and you're an enemy of the Palestinians and the imminent war with Iran is your doing by virtue of your support.

    Your comment is gibberish, in the context of my comment, and it makes me doubt that you are a real, individual person.

    You have no idea what I do or don’t support, above and beyond my belief that the more people who know about the 2500 years of the Torah-Pharisees-Talmud adherents objectives and methods, the better off the world will be.

    I encourage you to read “The Controversy…“, by Douglas Reed, and thereby educate yourself.

    If you are real person, please explain your gibberish, and/or refrain from commenting on my comments, in the future.

    BTW: though I see no relevance to my comment, whatsoever, I am no particular supporter of the current POTUS, beyond the fact that he won the contest as fairly as it is won, according the way the actual system works; that is definitely NOT to say that I support or believe in said system. And I will say that at the time I believed he was less bad than his cheating opponent in the general election, and I have not changed that belief.

    Shill-be-gone!

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    ....my belief that the more people who know about the 2500 years of the Torah-Pharisees-Talmud adherents objectives and methods, the better off the world will be.
     
    Well, if you feel that strongly about it, why don't you have Ron, since this is one of his many strengths, support a California Ballot Proposition that calls for the Extermination of The Jews. If it's successful in California, perhaps, like State Cannabis Laws, it will take off like Wild Fire and Poof!!, a Final Solution. A Garden of Eden without Jews or Jewry.

    Poor Donny Trump. He wants to do The Right Thing, whatever that is, but THEY, they meaning The Dirty Filthy Jews, won't let him.

    It's too funny, really. Donald Trump is the best you have to resist The Big Bad Jews? What a bunch of Impotent Weaklings if this is the best you've got.
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  77. MarkinLA says:
    @Quartermaster
    The Mullahs have been working with the NorKs on nukes. The Iranians started violating the agreement before the ink was dry on the parchment. Anyone that truly believes the Iranians gave up their efforts to get nukes is a hot prospect to buy the Brooklyn bridge.

    Who cares? Atomic bomb technology is 70 years old and any physics graduate student could probably produce a functional uranium bomb design. The sooner the Iranians have a bomb the sooner Adolph Netanyahu will have to stop crying about attacking Iran or do it and bring about a war that might end Israel for good.

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    Undergraduate, actually.
    http://people.com/archive/a-princeton-tiger-designs-an-atomic-bomb-in-a-physics-class-vol-6-no-17/
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  78. bjondo says:

    ben yammerin nuthinyahoo.
    been yammerin’ nuthin the live long day.
    ‘cept lies.
    been hammerin’ yammerin’ lies.
    nuthinyahoo,
    the chief rabbi of lies.

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  79. Miro23 says:
    @Cloak And Dagger
    Well, Trump’s trumpeting that he was 100% correct about Iran after Netanyahu’s latest lies about Iran could go in one of two ways:

    1. Despite knowing that Netanyahu is lying through his teeth about Iran’s nuclear aspirations (while avoiding any mention of Israel’s own stolen nukes), Trump could use this as a fig leaf and choose to pull out of the Iran deal. The timing of this coincides with Iran dropping the dollar, the same thing Ghadaffy and Saddam did before getting destroyed. Interestingly, Russia and China may drop the dollar too. It is unlikely that they will pull out of the deal. The UK and France might, but Germany probably won’t as its interests lie with Russia. So, even if the US pulls out of the deal, Iran still wins, and Israel/US become increasingly isolated.

    2. Trump is just blowing smoke and won’t pull out of the deal, or maybe, congress won’t let him. Constitutionally, the Iran deal is a treaty, and I believe congress (Israeli territory) has a say in it – but they have not really been upholding the Constitution, so that may not matter. But, assuming he does not tear up the deal, Iran still wins.

    So, either way the wind blows, it really doesn’t matter to Iran. We are a has-been power.

    Interestingly, Russia and China may drop the dollar too. It is unlikely that they will pull out of the deal.

    The alternative for a world Reserve Currency would be the Euro. The Euro block is about the same size economically as the US, it doesn’t run big trade deficits and it’s a large oil importer (i.e. Saudi Dollar balances could be replaced with Euro balances).

    Problem that the Saudis don’t have a choice in the matter – the US forces them to hold Dollars, and the Chinese won’t accept the reality that the Yuan is insufficiently traded to make it a world currency.

    So the Russians alone could switch to Euros (require payment for their oil and gas in Euros) which would encourage the Europeans to reduce their Dollar balances. Europeans would in fact need a dual system – reserve Dollars for ME (non-Iranian) oil and reserve Euros for Russian oil and gas.

    This would already be bad for the US financial system, and much worse if third party countries followed the Russian lead.

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  80. RobinG says:
    @jilles dykstra
    This is not a regional conflagration, as the USA Civil War was not, as the Spanish Civil war was not, as the Korean civil war was not, as the Saudi Yemen conflict is not.

    Are you having a “senior moment?” This is almost as dumb as your “Arabic in Iran” comment.

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  81. @NoseytheDuke
    Nuttenyahoo is in the news again today, this time with "proof" that Iran is acquiring nuclear weapons. Would anyone buy a used car from this man?

    Would anyone buy a used car from this man?

    What? $20,000 for that 2005 Kia? Oh, Bibi, you giveaway artist you! It’s worth waaaaaaaay more than that? How about $50,000? Or a $million? No amount is too much for Congress to give YOU, sweet Bibi McCree!

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  82. The U.S. and Israel are also expressing concern about Iranian ballistic missile capability. Again, ballistic missiles would appear to be a weapon that Israel alone seeks to monopolize in its neighborhood because it seeks to regard itself as uniquely threatened, that is, always the victim. It is an argument that sells well in the U.S. Congress and in the media, which has apparently also obtained traction in the White House. It is nevertheless a fake argument contrived by the Israelis.

    Exactly. Israel wants to stop what is unstoppable–other nations’ in the region desire for technological modernization. This modernization means, inevitably, better armed forces and this Israel doesn’t like. In fact, Israel BSed so many people for such a long time that now her actual legitimate security concerns are simply drowned in the flood of Israel-inspired threat inflation and other BS she “sells” in the US.

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  83. annamaria says:

    Could God the Almighty smash this despicable cockroach Jeffrey Feltman? http://www.voltairenet.org/article200978.html
    “After the vain attempt in 2004 by Secretary of State Colin Powell to transform the Arab League into a regional tribunal, Western aggression began with the assassination of Lebanese ex-Prime Minister Rafic Hariri, in 2005. The US ambassador in Beïrut at that time, Jeffrey Feltman – who probably organised this crime himself – immediately accused Presidents Bachar el-Assad. …yet false witnesses were unmasked, and the accusation collapsed.
    13 years later, Jeffrey Feltman is the number 2 of the United Nations, and the business at hand is the alleged chemical attack on the Ghouta. … The main suspect is, as usual, President el-Assad.”
    – Who is Jeffrey Feltman? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_D._Feltman
    “Jeffrey Feltman was born to Jewish parents in Greenville, Ohio, in 1959… Feltman served in the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv from 1995–98 … He served in Embassy Tel Aviv as Ambassador Martin Indyk’s Special Assistant on Peace Process issues from 2000-01. He then moved to the U.S. Consulate General in Jerusalem…”
    — Jeffrey Feltman is a ziocon arsonist, a dangerous member of the Fifth Column of Israel-firsters in the US. Feltman is a bloody slanderer, a criminal.

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    annamaria discussed the rather obscure activities of "cockroach," Jeffrey Feltman.

    Hi annamaria,

    Below is Jewish Corporate Media, Fox News Division's, brief interview with Israeli Ambassador to the ZUS on JCOPA.

    Please annamaria, for sake of "Continuing Education," watch this stilted discussion in correspondence with Protocols of Zion, # 12, which I linked within comment 72?

    https://youtu.be/XLvRWDZxx5g

    Thank you!
    , @RobinG
    Just when I thought it was safe to turn on the radio.... there was Danielle Pletka. (Today's "Washington Journal" on CSPAN.) Didn't you post some background on her, or was it someone else? (I'm just hoping there's an antidote...)
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  84. Mark Presco says: • Website

    This is a verbose article that tries to be too clever by half. It is all old news.

    The whole reason for the JCPOA agreement was that we already knew Iran was developing nuclear weapons. All Netanyahu (proved) is that Iran lied about it.

    Anyone who believes that Iran won’t continue to pursue nuclear weaponization regardless of what deals it signs is naive in the extreme. It can can only be made more difficult.

    Anyone want to speculate that Israel has already smuggled a nuke into Iran and is perfectly happy to let Iran believe it?

    Don’t misunderstand me. I am not supporting Shiite hegemony. Just observing.

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    You are just another miserable zionist shill, that's what...
    , @Art
    Anyone want to speculate that Israel has already smuggled a nuke into Iran and is perfectly happy to let Iran believe it?

    Why would anyone support such a devious mendacious nation?

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. Jesus said, “live by the sword – die by the sword.” – Hmm!
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  85. @Jake
    That is because the inheritors of the Ishmaelite/Islamic part of Semitic culture operate differently than does the Jewish part.

    But it is foolish unto death to assume that they are not at least equally rotten and equally ruinous.

    I’m under no illusions about Moslems, friend. I want neither in the West at all. But too many Whites, mostly stupid Christ cuck types, act as apologists for the Jews and Israelis and allow them to get away with far too much.

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    I’m under no illusions about…
     
    No matter how much the anglo supremacist degenerate despises the excruciating Jew nutsack-hold over his “glorious” & “democratic” nation, thus highlighting his pathetic existence as someone’s bitch, he still clings on to the delusional hubris that his thoughts about others even matter. No, it doesn’t… bitch. Now, heel and lick the nuts-of-yahoo.

    “Moslems,” Hindus, Orientals, Africans, may all be psychopaths to varying degrees, but there ain’t no greater Psychopath than the palefaced Anglo/Jew Devil (essentially Psycho-Necrophiliacs). Copious history of that… friend.


    I want neither in the West at all.
     
    As I have said many times, get your greedy psychopathic hands off our lands, and by all means you can have your cherished dream. And, take your mofing cancer with you, will ya.

    Else, may the fate of Gilead befall your spiritually and morally bankrupt cesspools.

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  86. @ChuckOrloski
    With notable objectivity, Johnny Smoggins wrote:
    "For all their other faults, I don’t recall Moslems in the West trying to take over the media... in order to undermine and ultimately destroy the host nation and advance their own race."

    Hi Johnny Smoggins,

    Bingo! A totalitarian control-priority (characteristic) is media takeover.

    America's mighty Jewish Corporate Media had the advantage of an expert "blueprint" to follow, & of course, unlimited financial means & devotional will to do it.

    Please consider perusing "Protocols of Zion," in particular # 12, (published in Russia, 1905), & linked below?

    http://crowds.virginia.edu/ma01/Kidd/thesis/pdf/Protocols.pdf

    Libya's & anti-Zionist Colonel Qaddafi wrote a "Green Book" designed to help direct Islamic nations in developing society's based upon Allah's "Protocols," the Quran.*

    Soon after Qaddafi's barbaric murder, no one here @ U.R. requires reminder of how ZUS Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, boasted about the evil deed in a now famous "sound bite"?

    Thanks, Smoggins!

    *. For those interested, Cynthia McKinney has written valuable articles on the late-Qaddafi's humane social engineering plans.
    Forgive me had I misidentified the works as "Green Book"? Likely U.R. commenter "Talha" knows more & better than I.

    “Please consider perusing “Protocols of Zion,”

    I own a copy. What’s most unsettling about that book, fraud or not, is how perfectly it describes the machinations of organized Jewry.

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  87. annamaria says:
    @Momus
    More turgid, tin foil hat prose from Phillip.

    Iran's clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?

    Netanyahu/IDF has the prescience, balls and military to destroy the Mullahs dream and the sooner he does it the better for the world.

    It would be great if Bibi had enough prescience to bring up his son to become a decent human being.
    Enjoy: https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/09/middleeast/israel-netanyahu-son-strip-club-recording-intl/index.html
    “In the tape, Yair Netanyahu, now 26, can be heard demanding money from Ori Maimon — the son of Kobi Maimon, an Israeli gas tycoon.
    “My father did a good deal for you, brother,” Yair is heard telling Ori. … “We fought in the Knesset for it, brother,” Yair then continues saying. “My father battled for it, I remember.”
    That’s when Yair asks Ori for a little over $100.
    “You are crying over 400 shekels,” Yair taunts Ori. “My father sorted your father out with 20 billion dollars and you are crying over 400 shekels?” he adds, laughing.
    The 400 shekels was “for the whore,” Yair says.
    Later, Roman Abramov, another friend of Yair, who joined the two at the strip club, tells the men, “This conversation should not get out. God save us. God, if this gets out, it will be hell.”
    A while later again, Yair asks: “Speaking of whores, what is open at this hour?”

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  88. annamaria says:
    @Greg Bacon
    Any American that doesn't want to fight and die for the glory of Apartheid Israel is a neo-Nazi anti-Semite!

    We should be glad to see our sons and daughters getting killed for Israel's regional expansion plans and not complain when gasoline goes to $10 a gallon, after all, it's for our friend and ally Israel that we suffer this minor inconvenience.

    Everyone knows that his Imperial Majesty Netanyhau needs a to expand the invasion of Syria with the carpet-bombing of Iran, to help keep Bibi our of prison for corruption, fraud and perjury.

    Look how prescient Bibi was in regards to our invasion of Iraq!

    FLASHBACK: Netanyahu Said Iraq War Would Benefit The Middle East

    “If you take out Saddam, Saddam’s regime, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region…the test and the great opportunity and challenge is not merely to effect the ouster of the regime, but also transform that society and thereby begin too the process of democratizing the Arab world.”

    https://thinkprogress.org/flashback-netanyahu-said-iraq-war-would-benefit-the-middle-east-7836f0b7bc49/
     

    There had been a minor historical correction since recent events in Kiev. — It is alright to be neo-Nazi Zionist now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX4fA0E5j_4

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  89. annamaria says:
    @James Brown
    "Big elephant in the room, is Russia’s indulgence of Israel"

    There is no elephant in the room. Russia is in Syria because Putin was invited by his friend and war criminal, The King of Israel. Russia is playing the bad/good cop role.
    Only a fool can't see that.

    "A sentiment amongst Arabs & MidEast Muslims is that you cannot trust the white or European governments"

    If the Arabs themselves are in bed with European and American governments, I don't believe that is correct to say that "sentiment" exist.

    Maybe among some young honest Arabs, who are irrelevant.

    Even The House Saud, the "protector of Islam's holiest sites" is in the bed with the enemies of Arabs/Islam. She has always been. Today, only those we are willingly blind, can't see it.

    The House of Saud is as much Muslim as American Presidents are Christians. or Tony Blair is a Christian.

    Again, only naîve readers take "The Saker" seriously.
    The man is not only a bad writer but a very bad propagandist. Same standard of Propaganda than MSM.

    Paul Craig Roberts is more intelligent and a better writer than "The Saker", but he is so obssessed with the tree that he refuses to see the forest.
    PCR is a religious man. Sometimes beliefs impede you to see the reality.

    “James Brown,” could you just stick with MSM? Your post smells hasbara to high heaven.

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  90. EugeneGur says:
    @Moi
    Putin is weak. Put pressure on him and he folds. Any people who trusts an outsider are stupid--sadly, Arabs, in particular, and Muslim, in general, keep doing this over and over again. Insanity? Dumb Arabs got snookered by Lawrence of "Arabia"/Britain into fighting Turkish Muslims. Now those Arabs are "enjoying" life under the American jackboot.

    Putin is weak. Put pressure on him and he folds.

    If Putin is weak, who is strong? Show me anybody else in this entire damn world with guts enough to resist the US gang?

    Putin and Russia have been under pressure for at least 10 years and so far haven’t folded. All Putin is doing is trying to protect the Russian people from the worst of it. After all, he is the President of Russia, not Iran or Syria, and his prime responsibility is to the citizens of Russia.

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    Show me anybody else in this entire damn world with guts enough to resist the US gang?
     
    China Mao, PM Zhou Enlai in Korea war, Deng XP, Prez Xi JP, all Generals incl Zhu Chenghu who openly declared first strike nuke war to Bush, etc. and all their people. Prez Xi despatched his Navy to confront US 2 strike groups in SCS, to defend Mauritius, stop Taiwan independent, purge US-ISIS occupation of Philippine city.

    NK Kim family of 3 generations & all NKoreans including small child msm have interviewed show they aren't afraid to fight back.

    Vietcon Ho Chih Ming & all his people

    Indonesia Prez Sukarno

    Philippine Prez Dutert

    Cuba Prez Carlos & his people

    Venezuela Prez

    Iran leaders & generals & all their people

    Syria Assad & his people

    Cambodia Prez Hung Seng

    Myanmar exPrez Thun Swee & his generals

    India all PM except Modi the US stooge

    Germany Hitler

    Japan ww2 war criminals, Abe grandfather

    Malaysia PM Mahatir

    Afghanistan people still fighting.

    Yugoslavia Serbia, generals & all people fight USNato.

    Brazil ex- prez

    Singapore Lee Kuang Yew expelled US ambassador caught financing opposition with $1M fine.

    Thailand exPM Tucksin been coup.

    Yemen Houtis

    Of course all Israel leaders & joos

    …long list.

    Except all Russia Prez, Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Putin,…

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  91. Z-man says:

    The full court press for war on Iran has taken place today (4/30). The Zionist controlled cable networks had Bibi Nut-n-yahoo on wall to wall coverage. Of course Trump followed the Zionist party line like the good NY Real Estate guy he is and ate all the tripe that Nut’n-yahoo made up (with the Mossad imprimatur) to convince the public to follow the Zionist party line. I hope there is much push back but I have my doubts.

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  92. @annamaria
    Could God the Almighty smash this despicable cockroach Jeffrey Feltman? http://www.voltairenet.org/article200978.html
    "After the vain attempt in 2004 by Secretary of State Colin Powell to transform the Arab League into a regional tribunal, Western aggression began with the assassination of Lebanese ex-Prime Minister Rafic Hariri, in 2005. The US ambassador in Beïrut at that time, Jeffrey Feltman – who probably organised this crime himself – immediately accused Presidents Bachar el-Assad. ...yet false witnesses were unmasked, and the accusation collapsed.
    13 years later, Jeffrey Feltman is the number 2 of the United Nations, and the business at hand is the alleged chemical attack on the Ghouta. ... The main suspect is, as usual, President el-Assad."
    -- Who is Jeffrey Feltman? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_D._Feltman
    "Jeffrey Feltman was born to Jewish parents in Greenville, Ohio, in 1959... Feltman served in the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv from 1995–98 ... He served in Embassy Tel Aviv as Ambassador Martin Indyk's Special Assistant on Peace Process issues from 2000-01. He then moved to the U.S. Consulate General in Jerusalem..."
    --- Jeffrey Feltman is a ziocon arsonist, a dangerous member of the Fifth Column of Israel-firsters in the US. Feltman is a bloody slanderer, a criminal.

    annamaria discussed the rather obscure activities of “cockroach,” Jeffrey Feltman.

    Hi annamaria,

    Below is Jewish Corporate Media, Fox News Division’s, brief interview with Israeli Ambassador to the ZUS on JCOPA.

    Please annamaria, for sake of “Continuing Education,” watch this stilted discussion in correspondence with Protocols of Zion, # 12, which I linked within comment 72?

    Thank you!

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  93. annamaria says:
    @SumDood
    Only an idiot thinks that Iran is honest. Only an idiot thinks that Iran has peaceful intentions. And only an idiot thinks that Iran under the mullahs is a better place for its citizens than Iran under the Shah.

    Iran has been attacking other countries and groups for decades. Do you people not remember the hostages? Attacking tankers in the gulf? Funding the Beirut barracks attack?

    If you want to whine about how bad America and Israel are, you need to find a "victim" that isn't a bloodthirsty gang of Farsi terrorists.

    Hey, hasbarist, have you forgotten this?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7uEXeByqhg&feature=youtu.be

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    @annamaria

    "Hey, hasbarist, have you forgotten this?"

    Thanks for teaching me a new word, but it doesn't apply to me.

    Israel fucked up in attacking the Liberty, and I have never excused or defended that act. Dayan was an asshole.

    But...back to the issue at hand. Please explain how Iran's behavior has been civilized and peaceful under the mullahs.
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  94. Israel wants the U.S. to destroy Iran. We all get that. So the easy understanding regarding Trump’s behavior is that he is an Israeli. America First was a lie. I don’t believe Trump is an idiot or a mad man. But a case can be made. It’s possible that Trump is controlled and is not really commander of U.S. forces. If this is so and he does not tell us about it he is a coward. Any way I turn it Trump is an idiot, a mad man, a coward or a Jew.

    I’m a deplorable. That doesn’t change. Trump gave us an identity and Clinton gave us our name. Trump beat down the door. God bless him. But once he was inside he was all alone. We deplorables desperately need leadership. Trump ain’t it.

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    David Duke for POTUS!!

    Even The Mullahs would suffice!!!
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  95. MarkinLA says:
    @SumDood
    Only an idiot thinks that Iran is honest. Only an idiot thinks that Iran has peaceful intentions. And only an idiot thinks that Iran under the mullahs is a better place for its citizens than Iran under the Shah.

    Iran has been attacking other countries and groups for decades. Do you people not remember the hostages? Attacking tankers in the gulf? Funding the Beirut barracks attack?

    If you want to whine about how bad America and Israel are, you need to find a "victim" that isn't a bloodthirsty gang of Farsi terrorists.

    Only an idiot thinks that Iran is honest.

    Only an idiot thinks that Israel is honest. With two liars lying constantly, who to believe? Maybe it is best to tune both of them out and stay out of it..

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    @Markinla

    "Only an idiot thinks that Israel is honest. With two liars lying constantly, who to believe? Maybe it is best to tune both of them out and stay out of it.."

    Countries act in their own self-interest. I am pleased that the USA is returning to that philosophy, and pushing back against foreign interference.

    But, while both Iran and Israel might be liars...only one of those countries has constantly attacked US (and other countries') interests around the globe: Iran.

    Violating territorial sovereignty and invading an embassy; Taking & abusing hostages (1979) Attacking another embassy (1987, Saudi Arabia). Attacking yet another embassy (1987, Kuwait). Attacking unarmed ships in the Persian Gulf. Supporting Hezbollah in attacking US and French interests. Killing 3 Saudi diplomats in Thailand (1990). Bombing a Jewish center in Argentina (1994). Khobar towers bombing (1996). Riyahd bombing (2003). Attacking yet another embassy (Pakistan, 2009). Killing a Saudi diplomat in Pakistan (2011). And yet another embassy attack (UK, 2011). Take a guess: another embassy attack (2016).

    Even the Arab League condemned Iran for all of its attacks on diplomats.

    Please remind me: how many embassies has Israel attacked?

    We should have turned Tehran into a glass parking lot in 1980. But there's hope we might yet do so!
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  96. Rurik says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    " . . . it is a major foreign policy objective of the Israeli government and its powerful U.S. lobby."


    This was almost too painfully humorous to continue.


    __________________

    "Those who argue that the withdrawal of the U.S. from JCPOA will be countered by the continued cooperation of the other signatories to the agreement are, one might unfortunately note, somewhat delusional."

    I don't think of myself as delusional - just positive. But I have to note that position shifted when France, Great Britain and Germany as well as Denmark supported attacking Syria. It was then I was sure the chips of their maintaining said agreement had been cashed.

    ” . . . it is a major foreign policy objective of the Israeli government and its powerful U.S. lobby.”

    This was almost too painfully humorous to continue.

    why was it painfully humorous, because it’s (obviously!) true?

    Germany as well as Denmark supported attacking Syria

    other than tepid words about Assad being ‘held to account’, or made to ‘atone’, when has Germany ever suggested it would ‘green light or ‘pull the trigger for an ‘attack’ on Syria?

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    I am unclear what you are on about.

    1. I thought it was a great line -- a funny turn of phrase.

    2. You might want to keep my comments in the context they are delivered.

    3. Removing the comments from their context and asking what they mean -- doesn't make any sense to me. My comments are about the issue of whether the Europeans would be on board breaking the agreement. I have been one who contended that would not be inclined to forego the financial loss. But when France, Germany, Denmark, and Great Britain joined or supported the faux chem use response. It suggested that the quid pro quo was in and supports Dr. Giraldi's position that the Europeans are not as tied to the financial gains as I might think.

    4. Caveat: Pres Macron's press here suggests they may not have to choose. Which bolsters the position that the money matters. time will tell.


    Your comments about atonement and what not are in some other field and as far as I can tell well off the mark. .

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  97. renfro says:
    @Realist
    Trump is a nutless, brainless asshole. He truly is a Zionist puppet.

    Wonder which Jew wrote this speech for Trump? Gotta get more vomit bags.

    President Donald Trump Proclaims May Jewish History Month

    May 1, 2018 By JTA

    (JTA) — President Donald Trump proclaimed May Jewish Heritage Month.

    In his statement issued by the White House on Monday, Trump said that “Jewish Americans have helped guide the moral character of our Nation.”

    President George W. Bush first proclaimed May Jewish Heritage Month in 2006, and it has been proclaimed annually by the sitting president ever since.

    The statement also said: “They have maintained a strong commitment to engage deeply in American society while also preserving their historic values and traditions. Their passion for social justice and showing kindness to strangers is rooted in the beliefs that God created all people in his image and that we all deserve dignity and peace.”

    He added that: “Through their actions, they have made the world a better place.”

    Trump also wrote that the “contributions of the Jewish people to American society are innumerable, strengthening our Nation and making it more prosperous,” noting that Jewish Americans have served in all levels of government and served in the U.S. military, as well as contributed to the arts and established philanthropic and volunteer networks. He also noted the Nobel prizes won by Jewish Americans

    Read more: undefined/fast-forward/400110/mahmoud-abbas-jews-caused-holocaust-with-their-social-behavior/

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    Wonder which Jew wrote this speech for Trump? Gotta get more vomit bags.
     
    Barf bags for sure. Probably written by Netanyahu's speech writer.
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  98. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    What might be in the Cohen files captured by FBI?

    Would the American people "forgive" him for whatever those sins were/are?

    In 50 years, what would be remembered most about Trump, that he diddled little boys on some Russsian Jewish oligarch's yacht, or that he gave the green light to US men & women to be diddled by zionist Jews and their shabbas goy to destroy Iran for the benefit of Israel, after which those same zionist Jews will pull the plug on Wall Street, abandon the USA if not actively set out to destroy it, as zionists and banksters move on to better opportunities.

    We've seen this play before, quite a few times and over millennia, and the ending was always the same: the state that hosted Jews ended up destroyed by those Jews, and those Jews benefited and moved on to plow fresh fields.

    We are told that zionist Jews pray Psalm 137 every day; Rabbi Marvin Heir, founder of the Wiesenthal Center, recited verses from Psalm 137 in the invocation at Trump's inauguration --

    " “By the rivers of Babylon, we wept as we remembered Zion… If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, may my right hand forget its skill. The do-er of all these shall never falter,” Hier said, the words taken from the Biblical Psalm 137. . . .
    Hier . . . believed to be the first rabbi to speak at a presidential inauguration since 1985. . . .
    has known the parents of Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner for decades. . . . have also been generous donors to the Simon Wiesenthal Center. . . ."
     
    Hier did not recite the ending verses of Ps. 137:

    Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction,
    happy is the one who repays you
    according to what you have done to us.
    Happy is the one who seizes your infants
    and dashes them against the rocks.

     
    Our latest grandchild is not yet 3 months old.

    Susan Rice's mushroom cloud imagery was phantasmagorical and calculated to induce fear.



    Biblical images conjured by "seizing your infants and dashing them agains the rocks," and "slaying the first-born of Egyptians" and "slaying the ten sons of Haman and 75 000 innocent Persian" may or may not be mythical; it is certain that these scenes form a central part of Jewish religious celebration.

    It is equally certain that Jews in Israel target Palestinian children, TODAY, to maim them or to kill them

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtUoIpoh0BA

    h/t http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/the-idf-is-the-most-moral-army-in-the-world-decameron-wonders-whatever-happened-to-human-rights.html


    Based on Israel's own YNet News, https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html, it is certain that Jews carried out mass killings of millions of Russians and Ukrainians.

    Ronen Bergman has written and spoken of Israel's use of assassination "more than any other nation," to "change history."




    At what point must we see a pattern and take it seriously?

    When do Christians run out of cheeks and turn, instead, to ensuring a safe future for their "posterity?"

    Isn't that what United States founding documents promised, and isn't that why we spend so much of our treasure and energy -- to ensure that OUR posterity -- our grandchildren -- can grow up free of fear of having their brains dashed against the rocks in service to a psychopathic god?

    “Ronen Bergman has written and spoken of Israel’s use of assassination “more than any other nation,” to “change history.””

    And then the Jews spread the rumors of the existence of a secret cult- that works and has been working for centuries assassinating dissidents and leaders . They live in Iraq and Iran They smoke Hashish and they assassinate after being duped by the mixture of the religion and the smoke.

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  99. Wally says:
    @Realist
    Trump is a nutless, brainless asshole. He truly is a Zionist puppet.

    The alternative was Hillary.

    Now imagine that.

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    Hillary is terrible, but little difference in out come. Both controlled by the Deep State.
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  100. renfro says:
    @Brabantian
    Big elephant in the room, is Russia's indulgence of Israel, letting the Israelis kill Iranians and others in Syria, as they just did despite Vladimir Putin's empty 'warning' to Netanyahu ... Putin who refuses to give Syria Russia's advanced missile defences that would block Israeli attacks on his alleged 'ally'

    A sentiment amongst Arabs & MidEast Muslims is that you cannot trust the white or European governments, they may help you in part out of self-interest (e.g., Russia in Syria), but they seem to always cut a deal with Israel

    V. Putin always chummy with 'Putin's Rabbi' Berel Lazar of the Mossad-tied Chabad Jewish religious cult, Putin a 'Russo-Zionist' who has Unz's 'The Saker' Andrei Raevsky distracting from Putin's deep Israeli ties

    But then there is Netanyahu's powerful new presentation re Iran
    https://justlearningman.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/coyote-united-nations-israel.jpg

    Big elephant in the room, is Russia’s indulgence of Israel,

    It may be that Putin’s fall back position, in the event that Israel is successful in dragging the US into Iran, is to let the US further its own demise. He knows the Jews are destroyers of nations and they will destroy the US eventually.

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  101. Rurik says:
    @Momus
    More turgid, tin foil hat prose from Phillip.

    Iran's clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?

    Netanyahu/IDF has the prescience, balls and military to destroy the Mullahs dream and the sooner he does it the better for the world.

    Iran’s clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?

    Yes! Of course it’s a good thing, when you consider the alternative.

    Iran didn’t attack our Navy ship in a cowardly and treacherous act of war, now did they?

    Iran didn’t send its Mossad to film the WTC being attacked with planes full of terrified American men, women and children, or start dancing in wild celebration when the planes exploded into the towers, slaughtering all those Americans horrifically. It was Israelis who did that, knowing those attacks were going to happen, and not warning us Americans, because they wanted us to get slaughtered, and cheered about it, as the flames were still burning Americans and people were dropping from the towers to their horrible deaths.

    Israel gets billions upon billions of dollars of largess from the American people, and that’s how they repay our generosity, by laughing at our slaughtered citizens?

    I honestly don’t know of any Iranians who would have laughed at 9/11, even considering all the evils that the ZUSA has perpetrated on Iran over the decades (always on Israel’s behalf of course)

    So yes, absofuckinglutely, I’d prefer Iran to have nukes and hegemony if anyone in the Middle East is to have them/it. Certainly more so than fanatical, murderous, criminal, treacherous, cowardly Israel.

    Bibi belongs at the end of a rope, not lecturing the rest of the planet on his pretexts (lies) for more wars.

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    Well said, especially

    absofuckinglutely
     
    LOL!!!
    , @Momus
    Contact the mother ship mate; your foil hat needs a recharge.
    , @Kolo
    Excellent reply
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  102. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    A pity PG published before hearing the latest whether Netanyshu's news is true or false - not that he could have anticipated it.

    I had just come across a circular current affairs email from a former very senior Australian public servant with interests in Foreign Affairs and Treasury matters. I have done my best to extract the relevant parts to paste below. To save time you could go straight to "Netanyahu". I would be interested in your or PG's analysis. It seems unlikely that the documents would all be fake but if some have been "adjusted" you might find yourself searching for the fake as a needle in a haystack.


    Israel’s Discovery of Secret Iranian Nuclear Policy

    It is difficult to understate the importance of Israel’s “discovery” that, after in 2005 Iran signed a deal with the US (under Obama) and major European countries, it did not in fact comply with the agreed restrictions on its nuclear activity in return for the lifting of sanctions which included considerable US dollar “reserves”. The press conference by Israel PM Netanyahu and initial reactions from Trump are reported in the attached Trump on Iran. This report appeared in my inbox at about 10 am this morning but was not mentioned on “our” ABC’s lunch time news. Another one for CEO Michelle Guthrie to explain.

    Israeli PM Netanyahu told the press conference in Jerusalem that “After signing the nuclear deal in 2015, Iran intensified its efforts to hide its secret files,” he said. “In 2017 Iran moved its nuclear weapons files to a highly secret location in Tehran.”It is amazing that Mossad was able to penetrate the Iranian hiding place and then smuggle the 55,000 pages of documents and 183 CDs back to Israel. Netanyahu rightly describes Israel’s ability to acquire the archive as marking “a massive intelligence coup”.

    The “atomic archive” was compiled by Iran with the express purpose of preserving its secretive nuclear weapons plan known as Project Amad, which aimed to “design, produce and test… five warheads, each with a 10 kiloton TNT yield, for integration on a missile. “That is like five Hiroshima bombs to be put on ballistic missiles,” asserted Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu outlined Project Amad as containing five key elements described by the Times of Israel thusly: “Designing

    [I lost something here]

    Trump Proclaims Netanyahu Announcement on Iran Shows ‘I’ve Been 100% Right’
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    President Donald Trump listens during a news conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel in the East Room of the White House, Friday, April 27, 2018, in Washington. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

    AP Photo/Evan Vucci

    by MICHELLE MOONS30 Apr 2018Washington, DC2,238

    From a White House Rose Garden podium this afternoon, President Donald Trump declared that he has been “100 percent right” on continued Iran nuclear development and brand new evidence from the Israeli Prime Minister proves that.
    Moments before President Trump and Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari held a joint press conference in the White House Rose Garden on Monday afternoon, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu took to televisionairwaves.

    Netanyahu announced that he was in possession of intelligence that proves Tehran has been running a secret nuclear weapons development program (see report below on what Netanyahu said).

    President Trump was asked about Netanyahu’s announcement moments later during the joint press conference. He was also asked if he had made a decision on whether to pull out of the Iranian nuclear deal and if Trump does decide to pull out, does it send the wrong message to North Korea regarding a potential nuclear deal there.

    “No, I think it sends the right message,” remarked Trump. “In seven years that deal will have expired and Iran is free to go ahead and create nuclear weapons. That’s not acceptable. Seven years is tomorrow.”

    “If anything it’s proven right, what Israel has done today with the news conference and Prime Minister Netanyahu just gave a very … I got to see a little bit of it,” said Trump. “That is just not an acceptable situation.”

    “I’ve been saying that’s happening,” said Trump. “They’re not sitting back idly they’re setting off missiles which they say are for television purposes. I don’t think so.”

    “We’ll see what happens,” said Trump who remarked that many have said they believe they know what he’s going to do, hinting that they believe he is going to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal. A decision on whether to pull out will be made on or before May 12.

    “That doesn’t mean we won’t negotiate a real agreement,” President Trump assured. He added that the current agreement “wasn’t approved by too many people and it’s a horrible agreement for the United States, including the fact, Mr. President [Buhari], that we gave Iran 150 billion dollars and 1.8 billion in cash. Nigeria would like some of that.”

    “You know what we got? We got nothing,” Trump said of the Iran deal.

    Trump concluded, “I think if anything, what’s happening today and what’s happened over the last little while and what we’ve learned has really shown that I’ve been 100 percent right.”

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    Watch: Netanyahu – 100,000 Secret Files Prove Iran ‘Lied Big Time’ About Nukes
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    by AARON KLEIN30 Apr 201811,417

    TEL AVIV — In a dramatic press conference in Jerusalem aimed at the international community, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday unveiled a cache of secret files he says were obtained from inside a hidden Iranian site and clearly demonstrate that Tehran maintained a secret nuclear weapons program despite declarations to the contrary.
    Netanyahu explained that the structure of the U.S.-led international nuclear agreement was in part based on deceptive Iranian descriptions of its previous nuclear work. He said Iran’s failure to disclose its secret program while misleading the world shows the nuclear deal is “based on lies based on Iranian deception.”

    The Israeli leader presented evidence that Iran continued research for a nuclear weapons program even after signing the 2015 nuclear deal.

    “Iran’s leaders repeatedly deny ever pursuing nuclear weapons,” Netanyahu began. “Tonight I’m here to tell you one thing: Iran lied.”

    “After signing the nuclear deal in 2015, Iran intensified its efforts to hide its secret files,” he said. “In 2017 Iran moved its nuclear weapons files to a highly secret location in Tehran.”

    Netanyahu said the secret nuclear files prove the following:

    Iran lied about never having a secret nuclear program. Second, even after the deal it continued to expand its nuclear program for future use. Third, Iran lied by not coming clean to the IAEA. Finally, the nuclear deal is based on lies based on Iranian deception.

    The prime minister’s speech was based on 55,000 pages of documents and 183 CDs that Netanyahu said were smuggled out of an “atomic archive” painstakingly preserving Iran’s secretive nuclear program so that the country would have the option of restarting its nuclear weapons activities after the nuclear deal expires or in the case of Tehran prematurely bolting the agreement. Israel’s ability to acquire the archive marks a massive intelligence coup for the Jewish state.

    “Iran lied. Big time,” Netanyahu said of the half-ton of material obtained by Israel.

    The trove, Netanyahu added, contains “incriminating documents, incriminating charts, incriminating presentations, incriminating blueprints, incriminating photos, incriminating videos and more.”

    He said Israel shared the material with the U.S., and that “the United States can vouch for its authenticity.”

    The “atomic archive” was compiled by Iran with the express purpose of preserving its secretive nuclear weapons plan known as Project Amad, which aimed to “design, produce and test… five warheads, each with a 10 kiloton TNT yield, for integration on a missile.”

    “That is like five Hiroshima bombs to be put on ballistic missiles,” asserted Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu outlined Project Amad as containing five key elements described by the Times of Israel thusly: “Designing nuclear weapons, developing nuclear cores, building nuclear implosion systems, preparing nuclear tests and integrating nuclear warheads on missiles.”

    Netanyahu said that in 2003, Iran shut down the version of Project Amad that existed at the time and instead divided its nuclear program into both covert and overt components. Besides archiving the material for future use, Netanyahu said Iran continued to research nuclear weapons.

    Netanyahu called on President Donald Trump to “do the right thing” as the May 12 deadline to recertify the nuclear agreement approaches.

    “The right thing for the United States. The right thing for Israel. And the right thing for the peace of the world,” he concluded.

    We have created a world where A and master of A can have 1000 to 100 of nukes, where these psychopaths can threaten with nuclear bombs but Iran or Syria can’t have nukes.
    This is accecpted as normal by not only the very psychopaths like Netanyahu or Yalom or B’lom or S ‘lom or Kagan-Kristol- Kushner-Kaplan-Kruthammer but by the folks going around nonchalantly their daily businesses in local cafe, offices,restaurant,hotel,street shows,school debates,town hall meetings , water fountain discussions in offices and during breaks from works.

    These same sob also say how Muslim imposed dhimmitudes on the rest of non Muslims and how they treated their conquered citizen . One of their favorites is this – Church or Synagogue or teh Temple couldn’t be higher than the Mosque in the vicinity. This they use to justify abominable attitude to Muslims which then transform into pre-conscious hatred and animosity to the Arabs/Palestine/Iran.

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  103. renfro says:
    @prusmc
    So the US gave Iran $150 billion and $1.5 billion in cash and Nigeria would like some of that. A lot of places would like some of that including the deplorables in the US. If it was a waste and a fraud to give it to Iran why repeat the scenario with Nigeria or an of the 140 plus contries/states/ nations seeking a US handout?

    So the US gave Iran $150 billion and $1.5 billion in cash

    Typical example of falling for the pundit media.
    The US did not GIVE Iran any money.
    The money came from Iran’s US ‘frozen funds’ ….Obama ‘released’ their money, it was not US money.

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  104. renfro says:
    @Wade

    It is, on the contrary, an American interest not to have another nuclear proliferator in the Middle East in addition to Israel, which Washington has never dared to confront on the issue.
     
    Mr. Giraldi, thanks again for another great article. However, I'm proud to say for the first time I am able to correct you on something. It is not true that Washington has never stood up to Israel on it's obtaining nuclear weapons. In point of fact John F Kennedy stood up to them on it and demanded that the international community be able to inspect Dimona. This was such an acrimonious issue between Kennedy and David Bin-Gurion that it ultimately resulted in the latter retiring from office:

    https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault/2016-04-21/concerned-about-nuclear-weapons-potential-john-f-kennedy

    Shortly after our president's untimely death the Israelis stole hundreds of pounds of enriched uranium from Apollo, Pennsylvania, probably deliberately transferred to them in fact by NUMEC:

    https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault/2016-11-02/numec-affair-did-highly-enriched-uranium-us-aid-israels


    Today, more is publicly known about the NUMEC affair than ever before. In 2009 The FBI released a detailed statement that was made in 1980 by a former NUMEC employee who said he started work at Apollo in February 1965 and was fired in October 1978 by the present owner, Babcock and Wilcox, Inc., for job abandonment following an alleged job-related illness. The former employee said he encountered armed strangers on the uranium plant's loading dock one night in early 1965. He said they were loading what appeared to be canisters of HEU onto a truck in racks that he had not seen before. He also saw a shipping manifest that said the material was heading to a ship bound for Israel on the Zim-Israel shipping line. He said that a NUMEC manager later threatened him to keep his mouth shut about what he had seen. From the mid 1980s through 2009, the FBI also declassified some of its other reports from the 1960s and into the early 1970s. Those reports indicated that Zalman Shapiro, throughout the time he headed NUMEC, collaborated with a number of Israeli officials.
     
    Kennedy's death marks the end of an era when Washington (sometimes) acted independently of Israel. From November 22, 1963 onward every US president has happily cooperated with Israel in foreign affairs.

    But then again I'm sure you know all of this history. I wonder though how many people have pondered its implications.

    Thanks for posting that.

    People need to ask who profited from Kennedy’s murder……Israel ….not Russia or Cuba.

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  105. @Bodyguard of Ois
    For all the people who are warning me how the evil foreign Zionazis run America, let's look how your fearless leader Bibi got his start. Recruited at MIT, immediate big job with BCG, the Mormon spooks' slush fund, then prompt, inexplicable Obama-style preferment by DCI Bush and NOCmeister Schultz, then up like a rocket.

    “Netanyahu was spotted at MIT in 1973 and the grooming began there when he was in his early twenties. After graduating, he received a high paying job at Boston Consulting. His boss was Ira Magaziner (CFR). But he quit the job in 1979, returned to Israel, starting selling furniture at the Rim company, then organized an anti-terror convention. Inexplicably, the CFR sent a team of their biggest guns including George Bush Sr, Richard Perle and George Shultz to this unknown 27 year old’s get-together. Once the convention was over, Netanyahu returned to work selling home furniture for three years until 1982, when Washington Ambassador Moshe Arens invited him to be his deputy. He claimed the choice was indirectly made by those who came to his convention and “were impressed with his performance.” That means Bush and Shultz pressed Arens to bring Bibi to Washington. From there, they pushed his career higher. In 1985, Shultz chaired another anti-terror convention in Washington supposedly organized by Netanyahu. By the time Bibi was UN Ambassador, Schultz visited him every time he was in New York, and that was often.”

    http://thebarrychamishwebsite.com/newsletters/elad.htm

    So don't gimme this Jew business. Netanyahu is CIA's homonculus. Israel will cease to exist the instant they quit doing CIA's dirty work. CIA says jump and Israel says how high. The whole US government says how high. This all comes back to your National Command Authority, which is CIA.

    Bibi wasn’t elevated to anything by the CIA; he was already Zionist royalty, his father having been Ze’ev Jabotinsky’s personal secretary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzion_Netanyahu

    (Jabotinsky–for those who don’t know–was a radical Zionist who fought with the Irgun terrorist group against the Brits, and it was he who first came up with the ‘Greater Israel’ plan that the Netanyahoos have dedicated themselves to ever since.)

    Bibi’s older brother Yonatan was a commander of an elite IDF commando unit which successfully staged a raid at Entebbe, Unganda in 1976. Yonatan probably was the heir-apparent, but alas, he was killed during the raid, so Bibi had to fill in.

    Nice try, hasba-rat! Now go peddle your Noam-Chomsky nonsense elsewhere …

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    There's nothing exculpatory in saying Zionazis work for CIA. They're hostes humani generis either way. I don't call you a CIA rat because you say Zionazis are in charge. It's an empirical question and reasonable people can differ.

    So make your case. Give me an example where Israel pissed off CIA and got away with it. That will constitute evidence that Zionazi impunity is not derived from CIA's. Like Pollard... oh wait, right, fat hairy shit whined his life away in Butner.

    Or explain the mechanism of Israeli control over CIA. That they get billions in aid thanks to forbearance of Symington-Glenn and the Leahy Law, provisions that could be enforced at any time? That's not control, that's a mendicant regime with a ring in its nose.

    Like South Africa before it, Israel is a pariah state on the cusp of nonexistence. Unlike South Africa, it's a one-nuke laydown with pussy coward troops who only know how to fight unarmed teenage girls, and who are sterile and going extinct cause of DU plumes from Gaza.

    CIA always gets somebody to blame when they're about to lose another war. The genocidaires of the Jew State are the best scapegoats they ever had because they are guilty of everything.
    , @Zumbuddi
    Good information, Seamus P, thanks.

    About Yonatan and his "tragic" death, a martyr, his death "broke his father's heart."

    I think it's BS.

    Jonathan was frequently at odds with his father and his family.

    He was psychologically Lost, could not make the frequent transitions between Anglo-USA and Israel that is required of an effective international agent. He was NOT a rootless cosmopolitan, his psyche needed the kind of stable sense of belongi g that he four d only in his mi.itary unit.

    Jon could not have taken on the role Bibi performs. So he was "martyred" at Entebbe.

    It's not a new concept in Judahite tradition to do away with the first-born.
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  106. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cold N. Holefield
    Are The Koch Brothers and The Mercers Jewish? They have no qualms about destroying the Biosphere and they are Trump Supporters. I know Stephen Miller is Jewish and he's one of two people to miraculously survive Trump's Stalinesque Purges.

    If you're a Trump Supporter, you're an Israel Supporter and a Zionist Supporter and you're an enemy of the Palestinians and the imminent war with Iran is your doing by virtue of your support.

    Are The Koch Brothers and The Mercers Jewish?

    Can they survive without supporting each and every Jewish agenda? Can they make money unless they wet their toes in the cesspool operated ,maintained,and enriched by the Jewish monetary system of control?

    They can’t.

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  107. renfro says:
    @SumDood
    Only an idiot thinks that Iran is honest. Only an idiot thinks that Iran has peaceful intentions. And only an idiot thinks that Iran under the mullahs is a better place for its citizens than Iran under the Shah.

    Iran has been attacking other countries and groups for decades. Do you people not remember the hostages? Attacking tankers in the gulf? Funding the Beirut barracks attack?

    If you want to whine about how bad America and Israel are, you need to find a "victim" that isn't a bloodthirsty gang of Farsi terrorists.

    Funding the Beirut barracks attack?

    Israel is responsible for the Beirut attack.

    https://www.wrmea.org/1995-march/israel-charged-with-systematic-harassment-of-u.s.-marines.html

    Israel Charged With Systematic Harassment of U.S. Marines
    By Donald Neff

    It was 12 years ago, on March 14, 1983, that the commandant of the Marine Corps sent a highly unusual letter to the secretary of defense expressing frustration and anger at Israel. General R.H. Barrow charged that Israeli troops were deliberately threatening the lives of Marines serving as peacekeepers in Lebanon. There was, he wrote, a systematic pattern of harassment by Israel Defense Forces (IDF) that was resulting in “life-threatening situations, replete with verbal degradation of the officers, their uniform and country.”

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    Barrow’s letter added: “It is inconceivable to me why Americans serving in peacekeeping roles must be harassed, endangered by an ally…It is evident to me, and the opinion of the U.S. commanders afloat and ashore, that the incidents between the Marines and the IDF are timed, orchestrated, and executed for obtuse Israeli political purposes.”1

    Israel’s motives were less obtuse than the diplomatic general pretended. It was widely believed then, and now, that Israeli Defense Minister Ariel Sharon, one of Israel’s most Machiavellian politician-generals, was creating the incidents deliberately in an effort to convince Washington that the two forces had to coordinate their actions in order to avoid such tensions. This, of course, would have been taken by the Arabs as proof that the Marines were not really in Lebanon as neutral peacekeepers but as allies of the Israelis, a perception that would have obvious advantages for Israel.2

    Barrow’s extraordinary letter was indicative of the frustrations and miseries the Marines suffered during their posting to Lebanon starting on Aug. 25, 1982, as a result of Israel’s invasion 11 weeks earlier. Initially a U.S. unit of 800 men was sent to Beirut harbor as part of a multinational force to monitor the evacuation of PLO guerrillas from Beirut.
    The Marines, President Reagan announced, “in no case… would stay longer than 30 days.”3 This turned out to be only partly true. They did withdraw on Sept. 10, but a reinforced unit of 1,200 was rushed back 15 days later after the massacres at the Palestinian refugee camps at Sabra and Shatila that accompanied the Israeli seizure of West Beirut. The U.S. forces remained until Feb. 26, 1984.4
    During their-year-and-a-half posting in Lebanon, the Marines suffered 268 killed.5 The casualties started within a week of the return of the Marines in September 1982. On the 30th, a U.S.-made cluster bomb left behind by the Israelis exploded, killing Corporal David Reagan and wounding three other Marines.6

    Corporal Reagan’s death represented the dangers of the new mission of the Marines in Lebanon. While their first brief stay had been to separate Israeli forces from Palestinian fighters evacuating West Beirut, their new mission was as part of a multinational force sent to prevent Israeli troops from attacking the Palestinian civilians left defenseless there after the withdrawal of PLO forces. As President Reagan said: “For this multinational force to succeed, it is essential that Israel withdraw from Beirut.”7

    “Incidents are timed, orchestrated, and executed for Israeli political purposes.”

    Israel’s siege of Beirut during the summer of 1982 had been brutal and bloody, reaching a peak of horror on Aug. 12, quickly known as Black Thursday. On that day, Sharon’s forces launched at dawn a massive artillery barrage that lasted for 11 straight hours and was accompanied by saturation air bombardment.8 As many as 500 persons, mainly Lebanese and Palestinian civilians, were killed.9

    On top of the bombardment came the massacres the next month at Sabra and Shatila, where Sharon’s troops allowed Lebanese Maronite killers to enter the camps filled with defenseless civilians. The massacres sickened the international community and pressure from Western capitals finally forced Israel to withdraw from Beirut in late September. Troops from Britain, France, Italy and the United States were interposed between the Israeli army and Beirut, with U.S. Marines deployed in the most sensitive area south of Beirut at the International Airport, directly between Israeli troops and West Beirut.

    It was at the airport that the Marines would suffer their Calvary over the next year. Starting in January 1983, small Israeli units began probing the Marine lines. At first the effort appeared aimed at discovering the extent of Marine determination to resist penetration. The lines proved solid and the Marines’ determination strong. Israeli troops were politely but firmly turned away. Soon the incidents escalated, with both sides pointing loaded weapons at each other but no firing taking place. Tensions were high enough by late January that a special meeting between U.S. and Israeli officers was held in Beirut to try to agree on precise boundaries beyond which the IDF would not penetrate.10

    No Stranger to the Marines

    However, on Feb. 2 a unit of three Israeli tanks, led by Israeli Lt. Col. Rafi Landsberg, tried to pass through Marine/Lebanese Army lines at Rayan University Library in south Lebanon. By this time, Landsberg was no stranger to the Marines. Since the beginning of January he had been leading small Israeli units in probes against the Marine lines, although such units would normally have a commander no higher than a sergeant or lieutenant. The suspicion grew that Sharon’s troops were deliberately provoking the Marines and Landsberg was there to see that things did not get out of hand. The Israeli tactics were aimed more at forcing a joint U.S.-Israeli strategy than merely probing lines.

    In the Feb. 2 incident, the checkpoint was commanded by Marine Capt. Charles Johnson, who firmly refused permission for Landsberg to advance. When two of the Israeli tanks ignored his warning to halt, Johnson leaped on Landsberg’s tank with pistol drawn and demanded Landsberg and his tanks withdraw. They did.11

    Landsberg and the Israeli embassy in Washington tried to laugh off the incident, implying that Johnson was a trigger-happy John Wayne type and that the media were exaggerating a routine event. Landsberg even went so far as to claim that he smelled alcohol on Johnson’s breath and that drunkenness must have clouded his reason. Marines were infuriated because Johnson was well known as a teetotaler. Americans flocked to Johnson’s side. He received hundreds of letters from school children, former Marines and from Commandant Barrow.12 It was a losing battle for the Israelis and Landsberg soon dropped from sight.

    But the incidents did not stop. These now included “helicopter harassment,” by which U.S.-made helicopters with glaring spotlights were flown by the Israelis over Marine positions at night, illuminating Marine outposts and exposing them to potential attack. As reports of these incidents piled up, Gen. Barrow received a letter on March 12 from a U.S. Army major stationed in Lebanon with the United Nations Truce Supervisory Organization (UNTSO). The letter described a systematic pattern of Israeli attacks and provocations against UNTSO troops, including instances in which U.S. officers were singled out for “near-miss” shootings, abuse and detention.13 That same day two Marine patrols were challenged and cursed by Israeli soldiers.1

    Two days later Barrow wrote his letter to Secretary of Defense Caspar W. Weinberger, who endorsed it and sent it along to the State Department. High-level meetings were arranged and the incidents abated, perhaps largely because by this time Ariel Sharon had been fired as defense minister. He had been found by an Israeli commission to have had “personal responsibility” for the Sabra and Shatila massacres.15
    Despite the bad taste left from the clashes with the Israelis, in fact no Marines had been killed in the incidents and their lines had been secure up to the end of winter in 1983. Then Islamic guerrillas, backed by Iran, became active. On the night of April 17, 1983, an unknown sniper fired a shot that went through the trousers of a Marine sentry but did not harm him. For the first time, the Marines returned fire.16

    The next day, the U.S. Embassy in Beirut was blown up by a massive bomb, with the loss of 63 lives. Among the 17 Americans killed were CIA Mideast specialists, including Robert C. Ames, the agency’s top Middle East expert.17

    Disaffected former Israeli Mossad case officer Victor Ostrovsky later claimed that Israel had advance information about the bombing plan but had decided not to inform the United States, a claim denied by Israel.18 The Iranian-backed Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility. Veteran correspondent John Cooley considered the attack “the day [Iranian leader Ayatollah] Khomeini’s offensive against America in Lebanon began in earnest.” 19
    Still, it was not until four months later, on Aug. 28, that Marines came under direct fire by rocket-propelled grenades and automatic weapons at International Airport. They returned fire with M-16 rifles and M-60 machine guns. The firefight resumed the next day with Marines firing 155mm artillery, 81mm mortars and rockets from Cobra helicopter gunships against Shi’i Muslim positions. Two Marines were killed and 14 wounded in the exchange, the first casualties in actual combat since the Marines had landed the previous year.20

    From this time on, the combat involvement of the Marines grew. Their actions were generally seen as siding with Israel against Muslims, slowly changing the status of the Marines as neutral peacekeepers to opponents of the Muslims.21 Israel could hardly have wished for more. The polarization meant that increasingly the conflict was being perceived in terms of the U.S., Israel and Lebanon’s Christians against Iran, Islam and Lebanon’s Shi’i Muslims.
    Accelerating the Conflict

    Israel accelerated the building conflict on Sept. 3, 1993 by unilaterally withdrawing its troops southward, leaving the Marines exposed behind their thin lines at the airport. The United States had asked the Israeli government to delay its withdrawal until the Marines could be replaced by units of the Lebanese army, but Israel refused.22 The result was as feared. Heavy fighting immediately broke out between the Christian Lebanese Forces and the pro-Syrian Druze units, both seeking to occupy positions evacuated by Israel, while the Marines were left in the crossfire. 23On Sept. 5, two Marines were killed and three wounded as fighting escalated between Christian and Muslim militias.24
    In an ill-considered effort to subdue the combat, the Sixth Fleet frigate Bowen fired several five-inch naval guns, hitting Druze artillery positions in the Chouf Mountains that were firing into the Marine compound at Beirut airport.25 It was the first time U.S. ships had fired into Lebanon, dramatically raising the level of combat. But the Marines’ exposed location on the flat terrain of the airport left them in an impossible position. On Sept. 12, three more Marines were wounded. 26
    On Sept. 13, President Reagan authorized what was called aggressive self-defense for the Marines, including air and naval strikes.27 Five days later the United States essentially joined the war against the Muslims when four U.S. warships unleashed the heaviest naval bombardment since Vietnam into Syrian and Druze positions in eastern Lebanon in support of the Lebanese Christians.28 The bombardment lasted for three days and was personally ordered by National Security Council director Robert McFarlane, a Marine Corps officer detailed to the White House who was in Lebanon at the time and was also a strong supporter of Israel and its Lebanese Maronite Christian allies. McFarlane issued the order despite the fact that the Marine commander at the airport, Colonel Timothy Geraghty, strenuously argued against it because, in the words of correspondent Thomas L. Friedman, “he knew that it would make his soldiers party to what was now clearly an intra-Lebanese fight, and that the Lebanese Muslims would not retaliate against the Navy’s ships at sea but against the Marines on shore.” 29

    By now, the Marines were under daily attack and Muslims were charging they were no longer neutral.30 At the same time the battleship USS New Jersey, with 16-inch guns, arrived off Lebanon, increasing the number of U.S. warships offshore to 14. Similarly, the Marine contingent at Beirut airport was increased from 1,200 to 1,600.31

    A Tragic Climax
    The fight now was truly joined between the Shi’i Muslims and the Marines, who were essentially pinned down in their airport bunkers and under orders not to take offensive actions. The tragic climax of their predicament came on Oct. 23, when a Muslim guerrilla drove a truck past guards at the Marine airport compound and detonated an explosive with the force of 12,000 pounds of dynamite under a building housing Marines and other U.S. personnel. Almost simultaneously, a car-bomb exploded at the French compound in Beirut. Casualties were 241 Americans and 58 French troops killed. The bombings were the work of Hezbollah, made up of Shi’i Muslim guerrillas supported by Iran.32
    America’s agony increased on Dec. 3, when two carrier planes were downed by Syrian missiles during heavy U.S. air raids on eastern Lebanon.33On the same day, eight Marines were killed in fighting with Muslim militiamen around the Beirut airport.34
    By the start of 1984, an all-out Shi’i Muslim campaign to rid Lebanon of all Americans was underway. The highly respected president of the American University of Beirut, Dr. Malcolm Kerr, a distinguished scholar of the Arab world, was gunned down on Jan. 18 outside his office by Islamic militants aligned with Iran.35

    On Feb. 5, Reagan made one of his stand-tall speeches by saying that “the situation in Lebanon is difficult, frustrating and dangerous. But this is no reason to turn our backs on friends and to cut and run.”36
    The next day Professor Frank Regier, a U.S. citizen teaching at AUB, was kidnapped by Muslim radicals.37 Regier’s kidnapping was the beginning of a series of kidnappings of Americans in Beirut that would hound the Reagan and later the Bush administrations for years and lead to the eventual expulsion of nearly all Americans from Lebanon where they had prospered for more than a century. Even today Americans still are prohibited from traveling to Lebanon.
    The day after Regier’s kidnapping, on Feb. 7, 1984, Reagan suddenly reversed himself and announced that all U.S. Marines would shortly be “redeployed.” The next day the battleship USS New Jersey fired 290 rounds of one-ton shells from its 16-inch guns into Lebanon as a final act of U.S. frustration.38 Reagan’s “redeployment” was completed by Feb. 26, when the last of the Marines retreated from Lebanon.
    The mission of the Marines had been a humiliating failure—not because they failed in their duty but because the political backbone in Washington was lacking. The Marines had arrived in 1982 with all sides welcoming them. They left in 1984 despised by many and the object of attacks by Muslims. Even relations with Israel were strained, if not in Washington where a sympathetic Congress granted increased aid to the Jewish state to compensate it for the costs of its bungled invasion, then between the Marines and Israeli troops who had confronted each other in a realpolitik battlefield that was beyond their competence or understanding. The Marine experience in Lebanon did not contribute toward a favorable impression of Israel among many Americans, especially since the Marines would not have been in Lebanon except for Israel’s unprovoked invasion.
    This negative result is perhaps one reason a number of Israelis and their supporters today oppose sending U.S. peacekeepers to the Golan Heights as part of a possible Israeli-Syrian peace treaty. A repeat of the 1982-84 experience would certainly not be in Israel’s interests at a time when its supporters are seeking to have a budget-conscious Congress continue unprecedented amounts of aid to Israel.

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    Renfro, please find me an unbiased source for your claims.

    "From Wikipedia, "The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (also known as The Washington Report and WRMEA) is A NON PARTISAN, magazine [my emphasis] * * * focusing on "news and analysis from and about the Middle East and U.S. policy in that region. The New York Times has characterized it as "critical of United States policies in the Middle East." I have never seen an article in WRMEA that was not strongly biased against Israel."
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  108. @Rurik


    ” . . . it is a major foreign policy objective of the Israeli government and its powerful U.S. lobby.”
     
    This was almost too painfully humorous to continue.

     

    why was it painfully humorous, because it's (obviously!) true?

    Germany as well as Denmark supported attacking Syria
     
    other than tepid words about Assad being 'held to account', or made to 'atone', when has Germany ever suggested it would 'green light or 'pull the trigger for an 'attack' on Syria?

    I am unclear what you are on about.

    1. I thought it was a great line — a funny turn of phrase.

    2. You might want to keep my comments in the context they are delivered.

    3. Removing the comments from their context and asking what they mean — doesn’t make any sense to me. My comments are about the issue of whether the Europeans would be on board breaking the agreement. I have been one who contended that would not be inclined to forego the financial loss. But when France, Germany, Denmark, and Great Britain joined or supported the faux chem use response. It suggested that the quid pro quo was in and supports Dr. Giraldi’s position that the Europeans are not as tied to the financial gains as I might think.

    4. Caveat: Pres Macron’s press here suggests they may not have to choose. Which bolsters the position that the money matters. time will tell.

    Your comments about atonement and what not are in some other field and as far as I can tell well off the mark. .

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    2. You might want to keep my comments in the context they are delivered.
     
    OK, this is what Mr. G wrote

    ” . . . it is a major foreign policy objective of the Israeli government and its powerful U.S. lobby.”
     
    as to that, you wrote this:

    This was almost too painfully humorous to continue.
     
    then I wrote:

    why was it painfully humorous, because it’s (obviously!) true?
     
    to which you responded..

    1. I thought it was a great line — a funny turn of phrase.
     
    a funny turn of phrase?

    . . . it is a major foreign policy objective of the Israeli government and its powerful U.S. lobby
     
    or a directly put, hard, honest truth

    nothing funny about it.

    in fact it's tragic, and unbearable, and evil.

    Not funny EliteCommInc, at least to any sane and humane person.

    3. Removing the comments from their context and asking what they mean
     
    I didn't remove them from their context.

    Your comments about atonement and what not are in some other field and as far as I can tell well off the mark. .
     
    no, my comment about atonement was in direct contradiction to your suggestion that Germany supported attacking Syria, which I have never seen any recent evidence of.
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  109. renfro says:
    @Bodyguard of Ois
    For all the people who are warning me how the evil foreign Zionazis run America, let's look how your fearless leader Bibi got his start. Recruited at MIT, immediate big job with BCG, the Mormon spooks' slush fund, then prompt, inexplicable Obama-style preferment by DCI Bush and NOCmeister Schultz, then up like a rocket.

    “Netanyahu was spotted at MIT in 1973 and the grooming began there when he was in his early twenties. After graduating, he received a high paying job at Boston Consulting. His boss was Ira Magaziner (CFR). But he quit the job in 1979, returned to Israel, starting selling furniture at the Rim company, then organized an anti-terror convention. Inexplicably, the CFR sent a team of their biggest guns including George Bush Sr, Richard Perle and George Shultz to this unknown 27 year old’s get-together. Once the convention was over, Netanyahu returned to work selling home furniture for three years until 1982, when Washington Ambassador Moshe Arens invited him to be his deputy. He claimed the choice was indirectly made by those who came to his convention and “were impressed with his performance.” That means Bush and Shultz pressed Arens to bring Bibi to Washington. From there, they pushed his career higher. In 1985, Shultz chaired another anti-terror convention in Washington supposedly organized by Netanyahu. By the time Bibi was UN Ambassador, Schultz visited him every time he was in New York, and that was often.”

    http://thebarrychamishwebsite.com/newsletters/elad.htm

    So don't gimme this Jew business. Netanyahu is CIA's homonculus. Israel will cease to exist the instant they quit doing CIA's dirty work. CIA says jump and Israel says how high. The whole US government says how high. This all comes back to your National Command Authority, which is CIA.

    Oh, here we go again.. the old CIA did it meme…the jooos are innocent, innocent I tell you!

    I’ve heard them all…..the US uses Israel to ‘colonize’ Palestine, the Israel Palestine fight is the evil white man’s fault for holocausting the jews, the US uses Israel to ‘expand its empire’, the WASP are controlling the Jews……ad nausea.

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  110. tac says:

    US Officials: Israel Preparing For War With Iran, Seeking US Support

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-01/us-officials-israel-preparing-war-iran-seeking-us-support

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-officials-say-israel-behind-latest-syria-strike-preparing-for-war-with-iran/

    Knesset gives power to PM to declare war with single vote backing

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/05/knesset-power-pm-declare-war-single-vote-backing-180501073134283.html

    Re: Strike on Hama & Alleppo:
    There is unsubstantiated report that Israeli F-15 flying over Jordan via Eastern route whilst blending in with US coalition forces:

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    Sorry part of my previous comment was cut out...

    ...whilst blending in with Us coalition forces launched their strikes from around the area where US has bases to the East of the Euphrates:

    https://twitter.com/WaelAlRussi/status/991305800172867584
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  111. RobinG says:
    @annamaria
    Could God the Almighty smash this despicable cockroach Jeffrey Feltman? http://www.voltairenet.org/article200978.html
    "After the vain attempt in 2004 by Secretary of State Colin Powell to transform the Arab League into a regional tribunal, Western aggression began with the assassination of Lebanese ex-Prime Minister Rafic Hariri, in 2005. The US ambassador in Beïrut at that time, Jeffrey Feltman – who probably organised this crime himself – immediately accused Presidents Bachar el-Assad. ...yet false witnesses were unmasked, and the accusation collapsed.
    13 years later, Jeffrey Feltman is the number 2 of the United Nations, and the business at hand is the alleged chemical attack on the Ghouta. ... The main suspect is, as usual, President el-Assad."
    -- Who is Jeffrey Feltman? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_D._Feltman
    "Jeffrey Feltman was born to Jewish parents in Greenville, Ohio, in 1959... Feltman served in the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv from 1995–98 ... He served in Embassy Tel Aviv as Ambassador Martin Indyk's Special Assistant on Peace Process issues from 2000-01. He then moved to the U.S. Consulate General in Jerusalem..."
    --- Jeffrey Feltman is a ziocon arsonist, a dangerous member of the Fifth Column of Israel-firsters in the US. Feltman is a bloody slanderer, a criminal.

    Just when I thought it was safe to turn on the radio…. there was Danielle Pletka. (Today’s “Washington Journal” on CSPAN.) Didn’t you post some background on her, or was it someone else? (I’m just hoping there’s an antidote…)

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  112. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    A judge in the US has issued a default judgement requiring Iran to pay more than $6bn to victims of the September 11, 2001 attacks that killed almost 3,000 people, court filings show.
    Monday’s ruling in the case – Thomas Burnett, Sr et al v. The Islamic Republic of Iran et al – finds “the Islamic Republic of Iran, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, and The Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran” liable for the deaths of more than 1,000 people as a result of the September 11 attacks, Judge George B Daniels of the Southern District Court of New York wrot
    Iran is ordered to pay “$12,500,000 per spouse, $8,500,000 per parent, $8,500,000 per child, and $4,250,000 per sibling” to the families and estates of the deceased, court filings say.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/05/judge-iran-pay-6bn-victims-911-attacks-180501120240366.html

    How does the anti Iran narrative work? Each and every lever has been joined just like it would be in a jungle by the poachers and in a Chicago street by the Latino gangs . Then they call it a democracy with rule of law reigning supreme .

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  113. renfro says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    What might be in the Cohen files captured by FBI?

    Would the American people "forgive" him for whatever those sins were/are?

    In 50 years, what would be remembered most about Trump, that he diddled little boys on some Russsian Jewish oligarch's yacht, or that he gave the green light to US men & women to be diddled by zionist Jews and their shabbas goy to destroy Iran for the benefit of Israel, after which those same zionist Jews will pull the plug on Wall Street, abandon the USA if not actively set out to destroy it, as zionists and banksters move on to better opportunities.

    We've seen this play before, quite a few times and over millennia, and the ending was always the same: the state that hosted Jews ended up destroyed by those Jews, and those Jews benefited and moved on to plow fresh fields.

    We are told that zionist Jews pray Psalm 137 every day; Rabbi Marvin Heir, founder of the Wiesenthal Center, recited verses from Psalm 137 in the invocation at Trump's inauguration --

    " “By the rivers of Babylon, we wept as we remembered Zion… If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, may my right hand forget its skill. The do-er of all these shall never falter,” Hier said, the words taken from the Biblical Psalm 137. . . .
    Hier . . . believed to be the first rabbi to speak at a presidential inauguration since 1985. . . .
    has known the parents of Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner for decades. . . . have also been generous donors to the Simon Wiesenthal Center. . . ."
     
    Hier did not recite the ending verses of Ps. 137:

    Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction,
    happy is the one who repays you
    according to what you have done to us.
    Happy is the one who seizes your infants
    and dashes them against the rocks.

     
    Our latest grandchild is not yet 3 months old.

    Susan Rice's mushroom cloud imagery was phantasmagorical and calculated to induce fear.



    Biblical images conjured by "seizing your infants and dashing them agains the rocks," and "slaying the first-born of Egyptians" and "slaying the ten sons of Haman and 75 000 innocent Persian" may or may not be mythical; it is certain that these scenes form a central part of Jewish religious celebration.

    It is equally certain that Jews in Israel target Palestinian children, TODAY, to maim them or to kill them

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtUoIpoh0BA

    h/t http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/the-idf-is-the-most-moral-army-in-the-world-decameron-wonders-whatever-happened-to-human-rights.html


    Based on Israel's own YNet News, https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html, it is certain that Jews carried out mass killings of millions of Russians and Ukrainians.

    Ronen Bergman has written and spoken of Israel's use of assassination "more than any other nation," to "change history."




    At what point must we see a pattern and take it seriously?

    When do Christians run out of cheeks and turn, instead, to ensuring a safe future for their "posterity?"

    Isn't that what United States founding documents promised, and isn't that why we spend so much of our treasure and energy -- to ensure that OUR posterity -- our grandchildren -- can grow up free of fear of having their brains dashed against the rocks in service to a psychopathic god?

    BRAVO !!!!!

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  114. anonymous[365] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny Smoggins
    I'm under no illusions about Moslems, friend. I want neither in the West at all. But too many Whites, mostly stupid Christ cuck types, act as apologists for the Jews and Israelis and allow them to get away with far too much.

    I’m under no illusions about…

    No matter how much the anglo supremacist degenerate despises the excruciating Jew nutsack-hold over his “glorious” & “democratic” nation, thus highlighting his pathetic existence as someone’s bitch, he still clings on to the delusional hubris that his thoughts about others even matter. No, it doesn’t… bitch. Now, heel and lick the nuts-of-yahoo.

    “Moslems,” Hindus, Orientals, Africans, may all be psychopaths to varying degrees, but there ain’t no greater Psychopath than the palefaced Anglo/Jew Devil (essentially Psycho-Necrophiliacs). Copious history of that… friend.

    I want neither in the West at all.

    As I have said many times, get your greedy psychopathic hands off our lands, and by all means you can have your cherished dream. And, take your mofing cancer with you, will ya.

    Else, may the fate of Gilead befall your spiritually and morally bankrupt cesspools.

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  115. Z-man says:
    @Rurik

    Iran’s clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?
     
    Yes! Of course it's a good thing, when you consider the alternative.

    Iran didn't attack our Navy ship in a cowardly and treacherous act of war, now did they?

    Iran didn't send its Mossad to film the WTC being attacked with planes full of terrified American men, women and children, or start dancing in wild celebration when the planes exploded into the towers, slaughtering all those Americans horrifically. It was Israelis who did that, knowing those attacks were going to happen, and not warning us Americans, because they wanted us to get slaughtered, and cheered about it, as the flames were still burning Americans and people were dropping from the towers to their horrible deaths.

    Israel gets billions upon billions of dollars of largess from the American people, and that's how they repay our generosity, by laughing at our slaughtered citizens?

    I honestly don't know of any Iranians who would have laughed at 9/11, even considering all the evils that the ZUSA has perpetrated on Iran over the decades (always on Israel's behalf of course)

    So yes, absofuckinglutely, I'd prefer Iran to have nukes and hegemony if anyone in the Middle East is to have them/it. Certainly more so than fanatical, murderous, criminal, treacherous, cowardly Israel.

    Bibi belongs at the end of a rope, not lecturing the rest of the planet on his pretexts (lies) for more wars.

    Well said, especially

    absofuckinglutely

    LOL!!!

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  116. tac says:
    @tac
    US Officials: Israel Preparing For War With Iran, Seeking US Support

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-01/us-officials-israel-preparing-war-iran-seeking-us-support

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-officials-say-israel-behind-latest-syria-strike-preparing-for-war-with-iran/

    Knesset gives power to PM to declare war with single vote backing

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/05/knesset-power-pm-declare-war-single-vote-backing-180501073134283.html

    Re: Strike on Hama & Alleppo:
    There is unsubstantiated report that Israeli F-15 flying over Jordan via Eastern route whilst blending in with US coalition forces:

    https://twitter.com/WaelAlRussi/status/991305800172867584

    Sorry part of my previous comment was cut out…

    …whilst blending in with Us coalition forces launched their strikes from around the area where US has bases to the East of the Euphrates:

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  117. renfro says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    What might be in the Cohen files captured by FBI?

    Would the American people "forgive" him for whatever those sins were/are?

    In 50 years, what would be remembered most about Trump, that he diddled little boys on some Russsian Jewish oligarch's yacht, or that he gave the green light to US men & women to be diddled by zionist Jews and their shabbas goy to destroy Iran for the benefit of Israel, after which those same zionist Jews will pull the plug on Wall Street, abandon the USA if not actively set out to destroy it, as zionists and banksters move on to better opportunities.

    We've seen this play before, quite a few times and over millennia, and the ending was always the same: the state that hosted Jews ended up destroyed by those Jews, and those Jews benefited and moved on to plow fresh fields.

    We are told that zionist Jews pray Psalm 137 every day; Rabbi Marvin Heir, founder of the Wiesenthal Center, recited verses from Psalm 137 in the invocation at Trump's inauguration --

    " “By the rivers of Babylon, we wept as we remembered Zion… If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, may my right hand forget its skill. The do-er of all these shall never falter,” Hier said, the words taken from the Biblical Psalm 137. . . .
    Hier . . . believed to be the first rabbi to speak at a presidential inauguration since 1985. . . .
    has known the parents of Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner for decades. . . . have also been generous donors to the Simon Wiesenthal Center. . . ."
     
    Hier did not recite the ending verses of Ps. 137:

    Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction,
    happy is the one who repays you
    according to what you have done to us.
    Happy is the one who seizes your infants
    and dashes them against the rocks.

     
    Our latest grandchild is not yet 3 months old.

    Susan Rice's mushroom cloud imagery was phantasmagorical and calculated to induce fear.



    Biblical images conjured by "seizing your infants and dashing them agains the rocks," and "slaying the first-born of Egyptians" and "slaying the ten sons of Haman and 75 000 innocent Persian" may or may not be mythical; it is certain that these scenes form a central part of Jewish religious celebration.

    It is equally certain that Jews in Israel target Palestinian children, TODAY, to maim them or to kill them

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtUoIpoh0BA

    h/t http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/the-idf-is-the-most-moral-army-in-the-world-decameron-wonders-whatever-happened-to-human-rights.html


    Based on Israel's own YNet News, https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html, it is certain that Jews carried out mass killings of millions of Russians and Ukrainians.

    Ronen Bergman has written and spoken of Israel's use of assassination "more than any other nation," to "change history."




    At what point must we see a pattern and take it seriously?

    When do Christians run out of cheeks and turn, instead, to ensuring a safe future for their "posterity?"

    Isn't that what United States founding documents promised, and isn't that why we spend so much of our treasure and energy -- to ensure that OUR posterity -- our grandchildren -- can grow up free of fear of having their brains dashed against the rocks in service to a psychopathic god?

    Ronen Bergman has written and spoken of Israel’s use of assassination “more than any other nation,” to “change history.”

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/19/book-review-rise-and-kill-first-by-ronen-bergman/

    ”RISE AND KILL FIRST”
    By Ronen Bergman
    Random House, $35, 784 pages

    I believe assassinations of select fifth columnist would be a very moral choice for ridding the US of our Israel problem.

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  118. @WorkingClass
    Israel wants the U.S. to destroy Iran. We all get that. So the easy understanding regarding Trump's behavior is that he is an Israeli. America First was a lie. I don't believe Trump is an idiot or a mad man. But a case can be made. It's possible that Trump is controlled and is not really commander of U.S. forces. If this is so and he does not tell us about it he is a coward. Any way I turn it Trump is an idiot, a mad man, a coward or a Jew.

    I'm a deplorable. That doesn't change. Trump gave us an identity and Clinton gave us our name. Trump beat down the door. God bless him. But once he was inside he was all alone. We deplorables desperately need leadership. Trump ain't it.

    David Duke for POTUS!!

    Even The Mullahs would suffice!!!

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  119. @Dissident X
    Your comment is gibberish, in the context of my comment, and it makes me doubt that you are a real, individual person.

    You have no idea what I do or don't support, above and beyond my belief that the more people who know about the 2500 years of the Torah-Pharisees-Talmud adherents objectives and methods, the better off the world will be.

    I encourage you to read "The Controversy...", by Douglas Reed, and thereby educate yourself.

    If you are real person, please explain your gibberish, and/or refrain from commenting on my comments, in the future.

    BTW: though I see no relevance to my comment, whatsoever, I am no particular supporter of the current POTUS, beyond the fact that he won the contest as fairly as it is won, according the way the actual system works; that is definitely NOT to say that I support or believe in said system. And I will say that at the time I believed he was less bad than his cheating opponent in the general election, and I have not changed that belief.


    Shill-be-gone!

    ….my belief that the more people who know about the 2500 years of the Torah-Pharisees-Talmud adherents objectives and methods, the better off the world will be.

    Well, if you feel that strongly about it, why don’t you have Ron, since this is one of his many strengths, support a California Ballot Proposition that calls for the Extermination of The Jews. If it’s successful in California, perhaps, like State Cannabis Laws, it will take off like Wild Fire and Poof!!, a Final Solution. A Garden of Eden without Jews or Jewry.

    Poor Donny Trump. He wants to do The Right Thing, whatever that is, but THEY, they meaning The Dirty Filthy Jews, won’t let him.

    It’s too funny, really. Donald Trump is the best you have to resist The Big Bad Jews? What a bunch of Impotent Weaklings if this is the best you’ve got.

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    How's the Negev at this time of year?

    You are shill, polluting this web site with your hatred.

    Go away!

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  120. L.K says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    I'm 99.999% sure that he's lying, I saw a brief clip of him and his lips were moving.

    It would be a wonderful day for peace in the ME if Iran had not 5 but 10 nukes ready to launch. I doubt that they'd be launched but they would serve as an excellent deterrent to Nuttenyahoo's murderous insanity.

    I’m a 100% that disgusting maggot bibi is lying.

    Also 100% that wizard of imbecility is a disgusting shill.

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    Couldn’t agree more. I’d say Netanyahu is a pathological liar but that wouldn’t be fair to pathological liars. And I’d say the Wiz is a fucking idiot but that wouldn’t be fair to fucking idiots.
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  121. Art says:

    “The ability of Israel and its Lobby to dominate U.S. foreign policy formulation in certain areas is thereby exposed for what it is: sheer manipulation of our system of government by a small group dedicated to the interests of a foreign government using money and the political access that money buys to achieve that objective.”

    Here is 100% proof of the above.

    This is America’s foreign policy line-up. Gina Haspel, Nikki Haley, Mike Pompeo, Mad Dog Mattis, and John Bolton.

    None are Jews, but are reflexive brainstem warriors that answer to US Jews. They have war minded personalities. War brings them benefits. All of them are more than willing to put American lives on the line for Israel.

    The Jew leaders, the generals, the spies, and the MIC own and control America. They are the US Security State. Our elected representatives work for them – NOT us.

    Think Peace — Art

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    Great, concise post Art. Thanks.
    , @SolontoCroesus
    Agree, Art.

    re the "Big Jew - Little Jew" concept you mention frequently:
    English Outsider posted this comment/explanation of how "Little Jews" rally around Big Jews when SHTF --

    Will 'rank and file' Jews become targets."

    One sees that outrage often enough in Europe in extreme form, but there is also a shift towards disapproval of Israeli actions generally. "Rank and file" Jews are increasingly identified with those Israeli actions. I believe that identification is often unjustified and always a mistake. My reason for believing that is simple enough:-

    The habit of Identifying the great mass of a people with the actions of the more vocal or active sub-sections of that people, or with the elites of that people, is of course general. We see neo-Nazis prominent in the Ukraine and immediately assume they represent the whole, see Nikki Haley at the UN and assume that's all "Americans" or, as I observe often enough on American and other foreign sites, come across those who see the White Helmets and immediately think 'those bloody Brits'.

    A universal mechanism therefore and one that in effect benefits the elites. As each particular rank and file group, be it Jew, Ukrainian or whatever, encounters that generalised hostility it automatically draws together; and in drawing together tends to fall into line behind those vocal sub-sections or elites that have aroused that hostility in the first place. The patriot who starts off by disapproving as heartily as anyone of the actions of his elite ends up by falling into line behind them.

    So just as war welds all to their own government, so too hostility or contempt from outside tends to increase our support for those who claim to represent us. The rank and file Jew whose synagogue is desecrated in France, or who is looked at sideways in England because of Gaza, feels closer to his own community as a consequence; and since the Israeli government is felt generally, for good or ill, to stand for the Jewish community, he will then tend to support or at least not look so critically at that government.

    There's a contest within the Jewish community at present. It's between those many Jews who are looking at Gaza or the Occupied Territories and thinking "My God, what are we doing?" and those many who believe that whatever they're doing it's what has to be done for survival. The increasingly forceful utterances of what you call the 'major influencers' - AIPAC and the like or their counterparts here - indicate how intense that contest now is. It's not so much a contest to confirm their political influence in their host countries as a contest to pull the critical Jew in behind them. It is to get those Jews who say "My God what are we doing?" to change to "for the sake of all of us, it must be done."

    How that contest will go is impossible to say, Such as jdledell here, who's written so perceptively on this in the past, might know. I couldn't even guess. But just as I found, as a "rank and file" Englishman when I lived abroad, that criticism - and that usually justified - of the losers at Westminster tended to make me bristle and to be more inclined to make excuses for them, misdirected contempt or hostility towards the "rank and file" Jew will have the same effect on him. He will draw closer to his own, as I did then, and maybe then fall into line behind those who happen at present to be in control.

    A simple enough argument, if I've put it right. One can be antipathetic to the Likud cronies without extending that antipathy to all Israelis or to the wider Jewish world. Rather, one has to scrupulously avoid that extension, else that natural mechanism of supporting one's own drives all Jews into Netanyahu's arms. http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/the-idf-is-the-most-moral-army-in-the-world-decameron-wonders-whatever-happened-to-human-rights.html
     
    Judahite/Levitic leaders have learned a great deal from their activities in WWII and especially their preparations for it. (that's for another time).
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  122. L.K says:
    @Mark Presco
    This is a verbose article that tries to be too clever by half. It is all old news.

    The whole reason for the JCPOA agreement was that we already knew Iran was developing nuclear weapons. All Netanyahu (proved) is that Iran lied about it.

    Anyone who believes that Iran won’t continue to pursue nuclear weaponization regardless of what deals it signs is naive in the extreme. It can can only be made more difficult.

    Anyone want to speculate that Israel has already smuggled a nuke into Iran and is perfectly happy to let Iran believe it?

    Don’t misunderstand me. I am not supporting Shiite hegemony. Just observing.

    You are just another miserable zionist shill, that’s what…

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  123. L.K says:
    @James Brown
    "Big elephant in the room, is Russia’s indulgence of Israel"

    There is no elephant in the room. Russia is in Syria because Putin was invited by his friend and war criminal, The King of Israel. Russia is playing the bad/good cop role.
    Only a fool can't see that.

    "A sentiment amongst Arabs & MidEast Muslims is that you cannot trust the white or European governments"

    If the Arabs themselves are in bed with European and American governments, I don't believe that is correct to say that "sentiment" exist.

    Maybe among some young honest Arabs, who are irrelevant.

    Even The House Saud, the "protector of Islam's holiest sites" is in the bed with the enemies of Arabs/Islam. She has always been. Today, only those we are willingly blind, can't see it.

    The House of Saud is as much Muslim as American Presidents are Christians. or Tony Blair is a Christian.

    Again, only naîve readers take "The Saker" seriously.
    The man is not only a bad writer but a very bad propagandist. Same standard of Propaganda than MSM.

    Paul Craig Roberts is more intelligent and a better writer than "The Saker", but he is so obssessed with the tree that he refuses to see the forest.
    PCR is a religious man. Sometimes beliefs impede you to see the reality.

    There is no elephant in the room. Russia is in Syria because Putin was invited by his friend and war criminal, The King of Israel. Russia is playing the bad/good cop role.
    Only a fool can’t see that.

    Absolutely ridiculous statement.

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  124. @Cold N. Holefield

    ....my belief that the more people who know about the 2500 years of the Torah-Pharisees-Talmud adherents objectives and methods, the better off the world will be.
     
    Well, if you feel that strongly about it, why don't you have Ron, since this is one of his many strengths, support a California Ballot Proposition that calls for the Extermination of The Jews. If it's successful in California, perhaps, like State Cannabis Laws, it will take off like Wild Fire and Poof!!, a Final Solution. A Garden of Eden without Jews or Jewry.

    Poor Donny Trump. He wants to do The Right Thing, whatever that is, but THEY, they meaning The Dirty Filthy Jews, won't let him.

    It's too funny, really. Donald Trump is the best you have to resist The Big Bad Jews? What a bunch of Impotent Weaklings if this is the best you've got.

    How’s the Negev at this time of year?

    You are shill, polluting this web site with your hatred.

    Go away!

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  125. Art says:
    @Mark Presco
    This is a verbose article that tries to be too clever by half. It is all old news.

    The whole reason for the JCPOA agreement was that we already knew Iran was developing nuclear weapons. All Netanyahu (proved) is that Iran lied about it.

    Anyone who believes that Iran won’t continue to pursue nuclear weaponization regardless of what deals it signs is naive in the extreme. It can can only be made more difficult.

    Anyone want to speculate that Israel has already smuggled a nuke into Iran and is perfectly happy to let Iran believe it?

    Don’t misunderstand me. I am not supporting Shiite hegemony. Just observing.

    Anyone want to speculate that Israel has already smuggled a nuke into Iran and is perfectly happy to let Iran believe it?

    Why would anyone support such a devious mendacious nation?

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Jesus said, “live by the sword – die by the sword.” – Hmm!

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  126. renfro says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    What might be in the Cohen files captured by FBI?

    Would the American people "forgive" him for whatever those sins were/are?

    In 50 years, what would be remembered most about Trump, that he diddled little boys on some Russsian Jewish oligarch's yacht, or that he gave the green light to US men & women to be diddled by zionist Jews and their shabbas goy to destroy Iran for the benefit of Israel, after which those same zionist Jews will pull the plug on Wall Street, abandon the USA if not actively set out to destroy it, as zionists and banksters move on to better opportunities.

    We've seen this play before, quite a few times and over millennia, and the ending was always the same: the state that hosted Jews ended up destroyed by those Jews, and those Jews benefited and moved on to plow fresh fields.

    We are told that zionist Jews pray Psalm 137 every day; Rabbi Marvin Heir, founder of the Wiesenthal Center, recited verses from Psalm 137 in the invocation at Trump's inauguration --

    " “By the rivers of Babylon, we wept as we remembered Zion… If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, may my right hand forget its skill. The do-er of all these shall never falter,” Hier said, the words taken from the Biblical Psalm 137. . . .
    Hier . . . believed to be the first rabbi to speak at a presidential inauguration since 1985. . . .
    has known the parents of Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner for decades. . . . have also been generous donors to the Simon Wiesenthal Center. . . ."
     
    Hier did not recite the ending verses of Ps. 137:

    Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction,
    happy is the one who repays you
    according to what you have done to us.
    Happy is the one who seizes your infants
    and dashes them against the rocks.

     
    Our latest grandchild is not yet 3 months old.

    Susan Rice's mushroom cloud imagery was phantasmagorical and calculated to induce fear.



    Biblical images conjured by "seizing your infants and dashing them agains the rocks," and "slaying the first-born of Egyptians" and "slaying the ten sons of Haman and 75 000 innocent Persian" may or may not be mythical; it is certain that these scenes form a central part of Jewish religious celebration.

    It is equally certain that Jews in Israel target Palestinian children, TODAY, to maim them or to kill them

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtUoIpoh0BA

    h/t http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/the-idf-is-the-most-moral-army-in-the-world-decameron-wonders-whatever-happened-to-human-rights.html


    Based on Israel's own YNet News, https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html, it is certain that Jews carried out mass killings of millions of Russians and Ukrainians.

    Ronen Bergman has written and spoken of Israel's use of assassination "more than any other nation," to "change history."




    At what point must we see a pattern and take it seriously?

    When do Christians run out of cheeks and turn, instead, to ensuring a safe future for their "posterity?"

    Isn't that what United States founding documents promised, and isn't that why we spend so much of our treasure and energy -- to ensure that OUR posterity -- our grandchildren -- can grow up free of fear of having their brains dashed against the rocks in service to a psychopathic god?

    What might be in the Cohen files captured by FBI?

    A lot.
    Trump is pulling out all the stops to paint Cohen as a liar ….that he lie to the NYDA about Trump’s dealings so he get a better deal with them on any sentence he may get.

    Trump is scared shitless over what Cohen knows but thinks he can threaten and bombast his way out as he has done in the past.

    If Cohen has any sense he will sing like a bird.

    Cohen responds to message sent by National Enquirer cover

    http://www.newsweek.com/michael-cohen-trump-national-enquirer-907593

    Washington (CNN)

    A National Enquirer cover story targeting Michael Cohen could be a strong sign President Donald Trump is upset with his personal lawyer and turning against the man known for years as his “fixer,” a source close to Trump said.

    According to the source, Enquirer publisher David Pecker, who is a longtime friend of Trump’s, would not have allowed the publication of the story — which featured a headline including the phrase “Trump’s Fixer’s Secrets & Lies” – without the President’s blessing.

    When asked whether he thought a message was being sent by the story’s publication, Cohen told CNN: “What do you think.”

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  127. FLgeezer says:
    @Art

    “The ability of Israel and its Lobby to dominate U.S. foreign policy formulation in certain areas is thereby exposed for what it is: sheer manipulation of our system of government by a small group dedicated to the interests of a foreign government using money and the political access that money buys to achieve that objective.”
     
    Here is 100% proof of the above.

    This is America’s foreign policy line-up. Gina Haspel, Nikki Haley, Mike Pompeo, Mad Dog Mattis, and John Bolton.

    None are Jews, but are reflexive brainstem warriors that answer to US Jews. They have war minded personalities. War brings them benefits. All of them are more than willing to put American lives on the line for Israel.

    The Jew leaders, the generals, the spies, and the MIC own and control America. They are the US Security State. Our elected representatives work for them – NOT us.

    Think Peace --- Art

    Great, concise post Art. Thanks.

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  128. bjondo says:

    Dump the Deal.
    Any deal with Oreobama, Synagogue Negro came with a knife in the back.
    Trump will give you a better deal.

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  129. Rurik says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    I am unclear what you are on about.

    1. I thought it was a great line -- a funny turn of phrase.

    2. You might want to keep my comments in the context they are delivered.

    3. Removing the comments from their context and asking what they mean -- doesn't make any sense to me. My comments are about the issue of whether the Europeans would be on board breaking the agreement. I have been one who contended that would not be inclined to forego the financial loss. But when France, Germany, Denmark, and Great Britain joined or supported the faux chem use response. It suggested that the quid pro quo was in and supports Dr. Giraldi's position that the Europeans are not as tied to the financial gains as I might think.

    4. Caveat: Pres Macron's press here suggests they may not have to choose. Which bolsters the position that the money matters. time will tell.


    Your comments about atonement and what not are in some other field and as far as I can tell well off the mark. .

    2. You might want to keep my comments in the context they are delivered.

    OK, this is what Mr. G wrote

    ” . . . it is a major foreign policy objective of the Israeli government and its powerful U.S. lobby.”

    as to that, you wrote this:

    This was almost too painfully humorous to continue.

    then I wrote:

    why was it painfully humorous, because it’s (obviously!) true?

    to which you responded..

    1. I thought it was a great line — a funny turn of phrase.

    a funny turn of phrase?

    . . . it is a major foreign policy objective of the Israeli government and its powerful U.S. lobby

    or a directly put, hard, honest truth

    nothing funny about it.

    in fact it’s tragic, and unbearable, and evil.

    Not funny EliteCommInc, at least to any sane and humane person.

    3. Removing the comments from their context and asking what they mean

    I didn’t remove them from their context.

    Your comments about atonement and what not are in some other field and as far as I can tell well off the mark. .

    no, my comment about atonement was in direct contradiction to your suggestion that Germany supported attacking Syria, which I have never seen any recent evidence of.

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    It is not uncommon to find truths humorous. I thought the line in such stark contrast as to be funny., I thought. I thought you asked that question previously -- hence painfully humorous.

    I would encourage you not to manufacture controversy --


    on the issue Germany -- I guess you wanted to ask a question, but raced headlong into a fuss -- here's the answer to the question your probably should have asked.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/when-allies-should-just-shut-up/

    http://www.dw.com/en/merkel-german-government-say-us-missile-strikes-in-syria-understandable/a-38341124

    https://www.express.co.uk/pictures/pics/12136/World-reactions-strike-Syria-Trump-Russia-US-missile-pictures


    The EU largely supports as does NATO

    https://sputniknews.com/europe/201804151063573067-nato-support-syria-strikes/


    I am very sure that includes germany
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  130. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato

    Russia is in Syria because Putin was invited by his friend and war criminal, The King of Israel. Russia is playing the bad/good cop role.
    Only a fool can’t see that.
     
    Sounds farfetched and there is no evidence.

    It makes it even harder for fools that they are expected to know what the “the good cop/bad cop role [sic - singular]” is. There are (at least) two good cop/bad cop roles so you should ask him to spell out what he says is happening.

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  131. anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:

    Netanyahu Intends to Assassinate Assad; Will U.S. Allow It?

    [On the basis of reports in Jerusalem Post, Wall Street Journal, and other sources, the Zero Hedge news site not only documents and headlines on August 29th, “Israel Threatens To Bomb Assad’s Presidential Palace” but makes clear that Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu personally informed Russian President Vladimir Putin of this intention during his meeting with Putin in Sochi on August 23rd,…]

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47724.htm

    This criminal Zionist, Netanyahu, also tried to assassinate Qasem Soleimani, Iranian major General, but Obama asked this idiot to stop. Why the criminal jews can reserve the right to kill others, where others should not take the same measure?

    Why a Zionist jew has so much power to kill whoever they want, while Drum, the white pussy licker is silent?
    Behind this reason lies in the facts that the criminal Zionist jews have many FILES ON HIM as a crook, hiring white prostitutes to give him more services and to pay these whores to keep them silent, so he does their betting in return, either be Jerusalem, killing Palestinians and stealing more of their land, building more settlements or a war on Iran. In fact, these Zionista have the power over him and can black mail him to do the ‘right thing’ as Netanyahu said recently. Clinton s were the same.

    This clown is in the pocket of the Zionist bankers NOT Russians, to manipulate an illiterate showman into wars for the interest of the criminal Zionist tribe. And he may do it, because he does not care about anything except himself and his country, only about himself and his empire, and this is the characteristic of a traitor.

    Why doesn’t stupid Robert Mueller investigate about Israel gate, but limit himself to ‘Russia gate’? The reason is that all these criminals, including Mueller, are in the pockets of criminal Zionist bankers. The world has not forgotten when Mueller, as head of the FBI, lied to the world when he claimed Saddam has WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION to start the war for the interest of the Zionist dicks. These dicks must be chopped off, not to be protected. It is more than a century that this criminal tribe has taken the world hostage. When is the world ready to destroy these criminals to establish peace on earth?
    When dummies are going to understand that all these crimes against humanity are to establish ‘new world order’, or “world government”, a Zionist project.

    Why A Zionist stooge like Netanyahu can kill whoever he wants, but no one has given the idea of wiping him off to put this criminal out of his misery.
    Calls for Arms Embargo Against Israel: Jewish State Atrocities in Gaza
    The Medical and Scientific Assessment of Israeli War Crimes
    [“The use of means and methods of warfare which are of a nature to cause superfluous injury or unnecessary suffering”.
    100 Jewish snipers were ordered to shoot unarmed civilians with semi-jacket bullets which are variously called dumdum, hollow-point, expanding bullet, explosive, soft-point, soft-nosed, that inflict horrific Grade 3 wounds as on contact, the bullet splays out talons massive internal tissue damage,
    “Half of the more than 500 patients we have admitted in our clinics have injuries where the bullet has literally destroyed tissue after having pulverized the bone. These patients will need to have very complex surgical operations and most of them will have disabilities for life.” Marie-Elisabeth Ingres, Medecins Sans Frontieres’s head of mission in Palestine.

    These high velocity bullets ‘are prohibited under a number of treaties’ for causing ‘superfluous injury or unnecessary suffering’.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/calls-for-arms-embargo-against-israel-jewish-state-atrocities-in-gaza/5638326

    That the Jewish state uses Gaza to field test new weapons has been well documented and today in Gaza doctors have also remarked on a new tear gas, not gray but green in colour, that causes severe spasms and ‘cramps, vomiting and stress, severe cough and a faster heartbeat…Because the gas is unknown and the health complaints are also unknown, the use of this gas is very dangerous and one does not know what more damage the gas can cause to the body.’ Khamakar Press

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMr9ILsPZ7UtyFztfniC-3fB9KvNPTYDsklRqp6gnzwzSzXZku

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  132. tac says:

    Perhaps the shift in strategy is carve-up Syria and use the US controlled areas East of the Euphrates to continue to destabilize Syria with proxy fighters and, at the same time, launch attacks on Iran and provoke it thereby dragging the US into another war for Israel. This Zionist ball-and-chain will not by cut in the foreseeable future absent some catastrophic change.

    The days of ISIS controlling territory and terrorizing the people of Syria are coming to an end,” State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said on Tuesday

    This is intriguing, because the only remaining IS presence is near the Iraqi border, with a pocket south of Damascus currently being cleared out by Syrian government forces

    Nauert also said the US will ensure there is a “strong and lasting footprint” in Syria so that IS cannot return and the liberated populations “are not exploited by the Assad regime or its Iranian supporters.”

    US statements supporting the territorial integrity of Syria “are only words” that serve as cover for “plans to partition Syria,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Saturday, after a meeting with Turkish and Iranian officials in Moscow. Lavrov had also warned earlier this year about Western plans to partition Syria.

    The US and its allies intend to occupy the eastern part of Syria and partition the country, in order to “use the Sunnis in East Syria and West Iraq to form a barricade to stop any Iranian influence and cut off supplies to Hezbollah.”

    Washington’s objectives are aligned with the axis between Israel and Saudi Arabia, Maloof added, with Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu hoping the US will fight Iran for Israel.

    “They will go alone if they have to and drag the US into it,” Maloof told RT. “We’re getting sucked into another war.”

    “ISIS is a sideshow. The real US targets are the Syrian government and its Russian and Iranian backers,” Jatras said. “The stage is being set for a confrontation with Iran, in which Syria is simply one theater.”

    “The reference to Christians is simply cynical. It is intended to make Americans think we give a damn about Syria’s Christians, despite seven years of arming and funding jihadists for whom Christians are prime targets for murder and enslavement,” Jatras explained.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/425608-us-syria-isis-partition/

    Israel Told U.S. and Russia It Will Retaliate if Iran Attacks From Syria

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-told-u-s-and-russia-it-will-retaliate-if-iran-attacks-from-syr-1.6040951

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  133. turtle says:
    @MarkinLA
    Who cares? Atomic bomb technology is 70 years old and any physics graduate student could probably produce a functional uranium bomb design. The sooner the Iranians have a bomb the sooner Adolph Netanyahu will have to stop crying about attacking Iran or do it and bring about a war that might end Israel for good.
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    I was aware of that. He wasn't just any physics undergrad. That's why I hedged and said "any physics graduate student".
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  134. @Seamus Padraig
    Bibi wasn't elevated to anything by the CIA; he was already Zionist royalty, his father having been Ze'ev Jabotinsky's personal secretary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzion_Netanyahu

    (Jabotinsky--for those who don't know--was a radical Zionist who fought with the Irgun terrorist group against the Brits, and it was he who first came up with the 'Greater Israel' plan that the Netanyahoos have dedicated themselves to ever since.)

    Bibi's older brother Yonatan was a commander of an elite IDF commando unit which successfully staged a raid at Entebbe, Unganda in 1976. Yonatan probably was the heir-apparent, but alas, he was killed during the raid, so Bibi had to fill in.

    Nice try, hasba-rat! Now go peddle your Noam-Chomsky nonsense elsewhere ...

    There’s nothing exculpatory in saying Zionazis work for CIA. They’re hostes humani generis either way. I don’t call you a CIA rat because you say Zionazis are in charge. It’s an empirical question and reasonable people can differ.

    So make your case. Give me an example where Israel pissed off CIA and got away with it. That will constitute evidence that Zionazi impunity is not derived from CIA’s. Like Pollard… oh wait, right, fat hairy shit whined his life away in Butner.

    Or explain the mechanism of Israeli control over CIA. That they get billions in aid thanks to forbearance of Symington-Glenn and the Leahy Law, provisions that could be enforced at any time? That’s not control, that’s a mendicant regime with a ring in its nose.

    Like South Africa before it, Israel is a pariah state on the cusp of nonexistence. Unlike South Africa, it’s a one-nuke laydown with pussy coward troops who only know how to fight unarmed teenage girls, and who are sterile and going extinct cause of DU plumes from Gaza.

    CIA always gets somebody to blame when they’re about to lose another war. The genocidaires of the Jew State are the best scapegoats they ever had because they are guilty of everything.

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  135. Realist says:
    @Wally
    The alternative was Hillary.

    Now imagine that.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c2b23f01c561ecf941215052c8d637d0b719a8b18b7fbc0e4401b099d1e0fcf9.jpg?w=600&h=330

    Hillary is terrible, but little difference in out come. Both controlled by the Deep State.

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    I'll take Trump any day.

    Check out his accomplishments in such a short period that you would never have seen under Hillary the drunk.

    Cheers.
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  136. Realist says:
    @renfro
    Wonder which Jew wrote this speech for Trump? Gotta get more vomit bags.


    President Donald Trump Proclaims May Jewish History Month

    May 1, 2018 By JTA


    (JTA) — President Donald Trump proclaimed May Jewish Heritage Month.

    In his statement issued by the White House on Monday, Trump said that “Jewish Americans have helped guide the moral character of our Nation.”

    President George W. Bush first proclaimed May Jewish Heritage Month in 2006, and it has been proclaimed annually by the sitting president ever since.

    The statement also said: “They have maintained a strong commitment to engage deeply in American society while also preserving their historic values and traditions. Their passion for social justice and showing kindness to strangers is rooted in the beliefs that God created all people in his image and that we all deserve dignity and peace.”

    He added that: “Through their actions, they have made the world a better place.”

    Trump also wrote that the “contributions of the Jewish people to American society are innumerable, strengthening our Nation and making it more prosperous,” noting that Jewish Americans have served in all levels of government and served in the U.S. military, as well as contributed to the arts and established philanthropic and volunteer networks. He also noted the Nobel prizes won by Jewish Americans

    Read more: undefined/fast-forward/400110/mahmoud-abbas-jews-caused-holocaust-with-their-social-behavior/

    Wonder which Jew wrote this speech for Trump? Gotta get more vomit bags.

    Barf bags for sure. Probably written by Netanyahu’s speech writer.

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  137. Realist says:
    @anon
    That makes two of them. Macron is a Rothschild stooge.

    Rich Zionists have many sycophants.

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  138. This article was written before Benjamin Netanyahu came out with his Powerpoint presentation of lies and half truths to justify demonizing Iran over its non-existent nuclear weapons program. He failed to mention that Israel has a 200 nuke arsenal undeclared and is not a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). Iran has no weapons, is a signatory and is subject to unannounced inspections of all its sites.

    He fails to mention a lot of things.

    I’d love to see that swine mention this,

    “The Israeli press is picking up Grant Smith’s revelation from FBI documents that Benjamin Netanyahu was part of an Israeli smuggling ring that spirited nuclear triggers out of the U.S. in the 80s and 90s.”

    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/netanyahu-implicated-in-nuclear-smuggling-from-u-s-big-story-in-israel.html

    I wonder if I could do that for a standing ovation.

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  139. @renfro
    I've been Bolton watching....he's fired and replaced almost everyone on Trump's in house security council and is now firing the homeland security team members.
    Trump , besides being mobbed up with Russian Jewish mafia in his personal business, is now fully Zionized and Neoconned in the WH. He's also sweating blood over what may come out of Cohen so he's in the perfect enraged and unbalanced mental state to unload his frustrations by pushing the button on whoever the Jew Fifth Column and Neo psychos tell him to.

    Given the choice between decimating Iran with another ME war and the complete collapse of the US........I am praying for a 1920's like total meltdown of WS and the whole financial system.

    That seems to me to be the only possible event other than a bloody revolution that would bring our corrupt and unreformable government to a screeching halt.

    Yep people would suffer some but tough shit....maybe, just maybe they would wake and realize IT'S THE CORRUPTION STUPID....both foreign and domestic.

    Yep people would suffer some but tough shit….maybe, just maybe they would wake and realize IT’S THE CORRUPTION STUPID….both foreign and domestic.

    It’s been going on since the beginning and few are yet awake. The few that have a clue have no power not that even they’d have any if they were suddenly joined by the bulk of the masses. Remember, at least 80% of Americans had no beef with either Germany or Japan until provoked by PH.

    The clown classes are on autopilot and as completely unaccountable and irresponsible as ever.

    Damn.

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  140. @Momus
    More turgid, tin foil hat prose from Phillip.

    Iran's clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?

    Netanyahu/IDF has the prescience, balls and military to destroy the Mullahs dream and the sooner he does it the better for the world.

    Iran’s clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?

    Credible evidence please.

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    Try following the news?
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  141. annamaria says:
    @Momus
    More turgid, tin foil hat prose from Phillip.

    Iran's clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?

    Netanyahu/IDF has the prescience, balls and military to destroy the Mullahs dream and the sooner he does it the better for the world.

    Excellent suggestion on the Comment section: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-30/why-israel-desperate-escalate-syrian-conflict
    “All holocaust memorials should be closed until Israel signs the NNPT [The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons] and allows all nations to inspect.”
    – Long overdue.

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    Israel's obvious need for a defensive capability, as well as her robust oversights and non hegemonic Western democratic traditions means to most that we are safe.
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  142. @Rurik

    2. You might want to keep my comments in the context they are delivered.
     
    OK, this is what Mr. G wrote

    ” . . . it is a major foreign policy objective of the Israeli government and its powerful U.S. lobby.”
     
    as to that, you wrote this:

    This was almost too painfully humorous to continue.
     
    then I wrote:

    why was it painfully humorous, because it’s (obviously!) true?
     
    to which you responded..

    1. I thought it was a great line — a funny turn of phrase.
     
    a funny turn of phrase?

    . . . it is a major foreign policy objective of the Israeli government and its powerful U.S. lobby
     
    or a directly put, hard, honest truth

    nothing funny about it.

    in fact it's tragic, and unbearable, and evil.

    Not funny EliteCommInc, at least to any sane and humane person.

    3. Removing the comments from their context and asking what they mean
     
    I didn't remove them from their context.

    Your comments about atonement and what not are in some other field and as far as I can tell well off the mark. .
     
    no, my comment about atonement was in direct contradiction to your suggestion that Germany supported attacking Syria, which I have never seen any recent evidence of.

    It is not uncommon to find truths humorous. I thought the line in such stark contrast as to be funny., I thought. I thought you asked that question previously — hence painfully humorous.

    I would encourage you not to manufacture controversy –

    on the issue Germany — I guess you wanted to ask a question, but raced headlong into a fuss — here’s the answer to the question your probably should have asked.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/when-allies-should-just-shut-up/

    http://www.dw.com/en/merkel-german-government-say-us-missile-strikes-in-syria-understandable/a-38341124

    https://www.express.co.uk/pictures/pics/12136/World-reactions-strike-Syria-Trump-Russia-US-missile-pictures

    The EU largely supports as does NATO

    https://sputniknews.com/europe/201804151063573067-nato-support-syria-strikes/

    I am very sure that includes germany

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    It is not uncommon to find truths humorous. I thought the line in such stark contrast as to be funny.,
     
    in contrast to what?

    here's the truth, as written, that you found so funny

    the unfortunate truth is that going to war with Iran is popular among the policy makers and media for the usual reason: it is a major foreign policy objective of the Israeli government and its powerful U.S. lobby.
     
    how many readers out there are busting a gut laughing at that I wonder.. not. Because I know the answer - none.

    it may have been a knee slapper for you, but another reason that's odd is because you're the driest, least humorous person here.

    I would encourage you not to manufacture controversy –
     
    umm.. this is a comment section for matters of extreme exigency in the world today.

    I didn't manufacture any controversy EliteCommInc. Hardly. Rather, I'm just here to comment on the death-slog to more wars for Israel, which are all contrived and manufactured by scumfucks to the detriment of every single person on this planet, with the exception of psychopathic Jewish supremacists, war pig profiteers, treasonous politicians, and perhaps worst of all; Christian Zionists.

    The controversy is that these wars are evil and wrong and all based on lies, if you've stopped laughing long enough to notice that. And that 9/11 was perpetrated by these scumfucks as the devil's pretext to drag 21st century humanity into a Satanic abyss of endless wars for Israel (much like the 20th), and get millions of people slaughtered, and tens or hundreds of millions of people's lives destroyed utterly, and all for the greater glory of Israel. Duh.

    Still laughing?

    Your first link is to The American Cuckservative, where in nauseous contempt for their sniveling cowardice, I don't go. Nevertheless, I read your article, and notice that it says exactly what I pointed out, that Germany wants no part of the war on Syria. And refuses to participate. (good on them!)

    I'll close this reply now so it doesn't get too long. And if I find something in your other links that implies that Germany is keen to join in an attack on Syria, (rather than just tepid verbalizations to keep it in the good graces of the Fiend), I'll let you know.
    , @Rurik

    The EU largely supports as does NATO

    https://sputniknews.com/europe/201804151063573067-nato-support-syria-strikes/

    I am very sure that includes germany
     

    the EU is the other half of the Siamese twin the Fed. Its dictums are Rothschild's dictums. 'What's good for the Zionist Jews in all things, IOW. Duh.

    NATO is nothing more or less than the enforcement arm of Rothschild's Jewish supremacist, zio-global banking racket. Duh.

    It's true that Germany and others are forced to abase themselves to the Fiend, and pay lip service to atrocities and war crimes and lies, but at least they have enough decency not to participate directly in the murderous rapine and serial wars of aggression that the ZUSA is waging all over the planet (on behalf of Israel).

    Germany didn't want war in the last century, but had if foisted upon them by Jewish supremacists in Russia, London, Paris and NYC.

    Today those Jewish supremacists are largely out of influence in Russia, but they control the ZUSA in near absolute terms. Certainly the Senate and most of the House. And so you have the sycophantic rubber stamp for any and all wars (for Israel) from the ZUS congress. Duh.

    The question (or controversy ; ) that's on everyone's mind, is just how dominated by these Satanic Jewish supremacist$ is Donald J. Trump.

    Bibi is so over-the-top psycho for more Americans (and especially Germans) to die in the Eternal Wars for Israel, that he's making an absolute ass of himself on the world's stage.

    There's irony in that it was Germany who didn't want war in the last century, but was blamed for it all when Rothschild and the Jewish banking cartels forced war on the world.

    Just as today, it is again Germany that doesn't want war, and yet if you know how to read between the lines, this quote from your American Cuckservative article...

    “Germany will not be militarily involved,” she explained, surprising no one. However, before the attack, she said “We recognize and we support the fact that every effort is being made to signal that the use of chemical weapons is unacceptable.” After the event, Merkel explained: “The military response was successful and appropriate.” Bloomberg called this “unequivocal support.”

    How generous. Bloomberg might have also observed that the Germans felt no obligation to actually do anything.
     

    the emphasis on "do anything" was the authors, not mine.

    And if you've grown up in the West, as I have, you learn to understand how words are put together, and why. Most of what many authors are trying to get across, is not stated directly. It's implied. By tweaking our carefully manufactured and expertly programmed sub-consciences, and speaking to that as much or more than to our consciousness. So when they have an agenda, (as nearly all of them of course do. Duh) they use tricks to move their readers in this direction or that, you see?

    So, when the author of the article says of 'Germany'; (a word that is wrought with a thousand sub-conscious and emotional, psychic triggers) that when it comes to Syria, (read Israel or 'the Jews - another word with carefully implanted and powerful emotional, psychic triggers) there are known and existing psychological trip-wires all going off in the modern human's brain.

    'The world's Jews (victims) are again menaced by a known threat and aggressive tyrant - Assad/Putin = Hitler

    and what does Germany do?!?!

    They don't "do anything"!

    it's deja vu all over again, as the Jews are being railroaded to gas chambers by Iran and Syria and Russia, and what does the Gentile world (especially Germany!) do?!

    They don't "do anything" !

    Just like not bombing the rail lines into Auschwitz, the anti-Semitic world (especially Germany!) sits on their hands and allows the innocent Jews to suffer and suffer.

    Let's unravel the code and programming we've all marinated in. It will free our minds.

    http://schneeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/66-6-the-matrix.jpg

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  143. Momus says:
    @Rurik

    Iran’s clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?
     
    Yes! Of course it's a good thing, when you consider the alternative.

    Iran didn't attack our Navy ship in a cowardly and treacherous act of war, now did they?

    Iran didn't send its Mossad to film the WTC being attacked with planes full of terrified American men, women and children, or start dancing in wild celebration when the planes exploded into the towers, slaughtering all those Americans horrifically. It was Israelis who did that, knowing those attacks were going to happen, and not warning us Americans, because they wanted us to get slaughtered, and cheered about it, as the flames were still burning Americans and people were dropping from the towers to their horrible deaths.

    Israel gets billions upon billions of dollars of largess from the American people, and that's how they repay our generosity, by laughing at our slaughtered citizens?

    I honestly don't know of any Iranians who would have laughed at 9/11, even considering all the evils that the ZUSA has perpetrated on Iran over the decades (always on Israel's behalf of course)

    So yes, absofuckinglutely, I'd prefer Iran to have nukes and hegemony if anyone in the Middle East is to have them/it. Certainly more so than fanatical, murderous, criminal, treacherous, cowardly Israel.

    Bibi belongs at the end of a rope, not lecturing the rest of the planet on his pretexts (lies) for more wars.

    Contact the mother ship mate; your foil hat needs a recharge.

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  144. Momus says:
    @jacques sheete

    Iran’s clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?
     
    Credible evidence please.

    Try following the news?

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    You mean the Zionist-owned media fake news? No, thank,you. Some people prefer their food for thought to be organic.
    , @jacques sheete

    Try following the news?

     

    "The" news?

    Try following my direction; I distinctly demanded credible evidence. Absent that, it's a troll comment.

    Try getting a clue from the ever inimitable Twain,

    Here are a few relevant snips from Twain’s "License of the Press" speech if 1873.:

    “There are laws to protect the freedom of the press's speech, but none that are worth anything to protect the people from the press.”

    “It seems to me that just in the ratio that our newspapers increase, our morals decay. The more newspapers the worse morals. Where we have one newspaper that does good, I think we have fifty that do harm. We ought to look upon the establishment of a newspaper of the average pattern in a virtuous village as a calamity.”

     

    Television and radio are even worse, and it's really old news that "da newz" is good only for mocking.
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  145. Momus says:
    @Gordon Bennett
    Excuse me for stating the glaringly obvious here - but Israel already does illegally posses nuclear weapons.

    And those weapons have kept the world a much safer and peaceful place. Good on the Israelis and their mastery of a mighty technology.

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    They’re parasites who are acting even more psychopathic than usual because they know their opportunity to plunge the region (indeed the world) into perpetual chaos is dwindling rapidly. God help us all from this hound of Hell.
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  146. Momus says:
    @annamaria
    Excellent suggestion on the Comment section: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-30/why-israel-desperate-escalate-syrian-conflict
    "All holocaust memorials should be closed until Israel signs the NNPT [The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons] and allows all nations to inspect."
    -- Long overdue.

    Israel’s obvious need for a defensive capability, as well as her robust oversights and non hegemonic Western democratic traditions means to most that we are safe.

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    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
    Israel’s essentialist nature is based on race, not ideology (although there is an unhealthy sense of paranoia in the mix). The only people safe from it’s predations are other Jews.
    , @annamaria
    1. "obvious need for a defensive capability" -- for a supposedly "moral" project that has blossomed into a malignancy? Enough of your "eternal victimhood" already; Israel has exhausted the world's goodwill.
    2. "non hegemonic Western democratic traditions" -- the theocratic apartheid of the Jewish State is neither Western nor democratic.
    3. "we are safe" -- here is the problem: the ziocons are not concerned with the safety of non-Jews at large.

    To reiterate: "All holocaust memorials should be closed until Israel signs the NNPT [The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons] and allows all nations to inspect.”
    , @Kolo
    Hahahahahaha
    You are clearly insane
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  147. @L.K
    I'm a 100% that disgusting maggot bibi is lying.

    Also 100% that wizard of imbecility is a disgusting shill.

    Couldn’t agree more. I’d say Netanyahu is a pathological liar but that wouldn’t be fair to pathological liars. And I’d say the Wiz is a fucking idiot but that wouldn’t be fair to fucking idiots.

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    I’d say Netanyahu is a pathological liar but that wouldn’t be fair to pathological liars. And I’d say the Wiz is a fucking idiot but that wouldn’t be fair to fucking idiots.
     
    Used "Agree" button already.

    Same goes for the new troll on the block, "Momus." There's a never ending supply of Izzy-first dolts; where do they come from?
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  148. @Momus
    And those weapons have kept the world a much safer and peaceful place. Good on the Israelis and their mastery of a mighty technology.

    They’re parasites who are acting even more psychopathic than usual because they know their opportunity to plunge the region (indeed the world) into perpetual chaos is dwindling rapidly. God help us all from this hound of Hell.

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  149. Ha. S. says:

    ”Those who argue that the withdrawal of the U.S. from JCPOA will be countered by the continued cooperation of the other signatories to the agreement are, one might unfortunately note, somewhat delusional. The U.S. has tremendous leverage in financial markets. If it chooses to sanction Iran over its missiles while also re-introducing the old sanctions relating to the nuclear developments, it would be a brave European or Asian banker who would risk being blocked out of the American market by lending money or selling certain prohibited goods to the Iranians.”

    Western Sanctions Against Iran vs Expected Eastern Blowback
    From Newsbud, where media integrity matters.

    ”Atlanticists standing behind Dollar Hegemony, and the building Eurasian contingency fighting it, are attacking each other’s currencies, either clandestinely via both technological and deployed trading agent means, or overtly through sanctions regimes, in order to ultimately either maintain, or appropriate, respectively, standards for the future of the world’s economy.”:

    (Show Notes, selected):

    U.S. backs EU Iran sanctions push, warns firms against Tehran trade

    [MORE]

    Iran’s Foreign Exchange, Gold Reserves More than US: CIA

    Iran arrests currency traders as rial collapses

    Iran sets single foreign exchange rate to rescue currency

    Iran hit by cyberattack that leaves US flag on screens

    Stuxnet reached its target via the networks of trusted business partners

    How Does a Currency Drop 60% in 8 Days? Just Ask Iran

    US confirms it asked Twitter to stay open to help Iran protesters – Obama administration asked Twitter website to postpone temporary shutdown

    Federal Debt: Total Public Debt as Percent of Gross Domestic Product

    UK government debt and deficit: December 2017

    France Government Debt to GDP 1980-2018

    Iran Government Debt to GDP 1996-2018

    Russia Government Debt to GDP 1999-2018

    Turkey Government Debt to GDP 2000-2018

    China Government Debt to GDP 1995-2018

    Gold reserves of largest gold holding countries worldwide as of November 2017 (in metric tons)

    De-Dollarization Continues: China, Iran To Eliminate Greenback From Bilateral Trade

    Iran and Russia Plan to Isolate America with the U.S. Dollar – and They’ll Succeed

    Iran-Russia Ties Set to Expand

    Iran-China Traders Agree to Sideline US Dollar

    Iran’s Trade With Turkey Tops $10 Billion

    The world’s top five countries with highest natural gas reserves

    Here’s how ‘the cartel’ rigged the currency market

    The question isn’t whether the market is rigged, but how much

    There May Be a Smoking Gun in the Lawsuit that Accuses Banks of Rigging the Bond Market

    Turkey Takes Possession of 220 Tons of Gold Repatriated from Federal Reserve-Rory Hall (20/04/2018)

    Big Risk: $1.2 Quadrillion Derivatives Market Dwarfs World GDP

    The New York Fed is understating the impact of a $500 trillion market

    Financial Weapons Of Mass Destruction: Top 25 US Banks Have 222 Trillion Dollars Derivatives Exposure

    https://www.newsbud.com/2018/05/01/western-sanctions-against-iran-vs-expected-eastern-blowback/

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  150. MarkinLA says:
    @turtle
    Undergraduate, actually.
    http://people.com/archive/a-princeton-tiger-designs-an-atomic-bomb-in-a-physics-class-vol-6-no-17/

    I was aware of that. He wasn’t just any physics undergrad. That’s why I hedged and said “any physics graduate student”.

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  151. @Momus
    Israel's obvious need for a defensive capability, as well as her robust oversights and non hegemonic Western democratic traditions means to most that we are safe.

    Israel’s essentialist nature is based on race, not ideology (although there is an unhealthy sense of paranoia in the mix). The only people safe from it’s predations are other Jews.

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    Israel’s essentialist nature is based on race, not ideology (although there is an unhealthy sense of paranoia in the mix). The only people safe from it’s predations are other Jews.

    May it be said, that on the contrary – Little Jews are the biggest losers – check out WWII.

    Think Peace --- Art
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  152. Art says:
    @Momus
    More turgid, tin foil hat prose from Phillip.

    Iran's clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?

    Netanyahu/IDF has the prescience, balls and military to destroy the Mullahs dream and the sooner he does it the better for the world.

    Netanyahu/IDF has the prescience, balls and military to destroy the Mullahs dream and the sooner he does it the better for the world.

    Bibi is a putzhead – he is leading his Little Jews into hell.

    If Netanyahu really had gonads, he would be attacking Hezbollah right now. In a year Hezbollah and Syria will be too strong for Israel to attack on its own.

    It is an elusion that Jews are warriors. Jews are great assassins – not great warriors. The Mossad can accomplish only so much. Israel’s victimization screeds are no longer working. Now they are just insulting people with their sniveling and whimpering. Netanyahu is talking to an empty audience. Only people he can politically coerce are paying attention.

    Ever more Israel needs the US government. Without starting WWIII Israel is doomed.

    Think Peace — Art

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    Tiny Israel fought and overwhelmingly won a four fronted war in 1967. Israel is the pre eminent warrior nation.
    , @Momus
    They seem to be winning on all the socio-economic and geopolitical fronts they engage. Their neighbours are in awe of their military and espionage capabilities and intellectual dynamism.
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  153. Art says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    Israel’s essentialist nature is based on race, not ideology (although there is an unhealthy sense of paranoia in the mix). The only people safe from it’s predations are other Jews.

    Israel’s essentialist nature is based on race, not ideology (although there is an unhealthy sense of paranoia in the mix). The only people safe from it’s predations are other Jews.

    May it be said, that on the contrary – Little Jews are the biggest losers – check out WWII.

    Think Peace — Art

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    Fair point.
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  154. RINSE LATHER REPEAT. That says it all. BY DECEPTION YOU MAY WAGE WAR. I also suggest my fellow readers Look at the Wolfawitz doctrine. Here we will find Our US foreign policy in spades. Boy the western sheeple are reaLLY WALKING ZOMBIES ALL SUFFERING FROM aLZAHEIMERS IF WE FALL INTO THIS ZIONIST TRAP AGAIN

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  155. @Art
    Israel’s essentialist nature is based on race, not ideology (although there is an unhealthy sense of paranoia in the mix). The only people safe from it’s predations are other Jews.

    May it be said, that on the contrary – Little Jews are the biggest losers – check out WWII.

    Think Peace --- Art

    Fair point.

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  156. Momus says:
    @Art
    Netanyahu/IDF has the prescience, balls and military to destroy the Mullahs dream and the sooner he does it the better for the world.

    Bibi is a putzhead - he is leading his Little Jews into hell.

    If Netanyahu really had gonads, he would be attacking Hezbollah right now. In a year Hezbollah and Syria will be too strong for Israel to attack on its own.

    It is an elusion that Jews are warriors. Jews are great assassins – not great warriors. The Mossad can accomplish only so much. Israel’s victimization screeds are no longer working. Now they are just insulting people with their sniveling and whimpering. Netanyahu is talking to an empty audience. Only people he can politically coerce are paying attention.

    Ever more Israel needs the US government. Without starting WWIII Israel is doomed.

    Think Peace --- Art

    Tiny Israel fought and overwhelmingly won a four fronted war in 1967. Israel is the pre eminent warrior nation.

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    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    Just a tad tiny teeny weeny little flaw in your advertisement


    and it's a huge and decisive omission

    Not without the US.
    , @renfro
    I see the troll monkeys are back.....beating their chest and pretending to be big silverbacks.
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  157. Momus says:
    @Art
    Netanyahu/IDF has the prescience, balls and military to destroy the Mullahs dream and the sooner he does it the better for the world.

    Bibi is a putzhead - he is leading his Little Jews into hell.

    If Netanyahu really had gonads, he would be attacking Hezbollah right now. In a year Hezbollah and Syria will be too strong for Israel to attack on its own.

    It is an elusion that Jews are warriors. Jews are great assassins – not great warriors. The Mossad can accomplish only so much. Israel’s victimization screeds are no longer working. Now they are just insulting people with their sniveling and whimpering. Netanyahu is talking to an empty audience. Only people he can politically coerce are paying attention.

    Ever more Israel needs the US government. Without starting WWIII Israel is doomed.

    Think Peace --- Art

    They seem to be winning on all the socio-economic and geopolitical fronts they engage. Their neighbours are in awe of their military and espionage capabilities and intellectual dynamism.

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    They seem to be winning on all the socio-economic and geopolitical fronts they engage. Their neighbours are in awe of their military and espionage capabilities and intellectual dynamism.

     

    If only Germany had not had a dumbass attack and chilled out to normal levels before going for the Soviet Union, we would be talking like this about the European Reich....

    But in any case, these are mostly the capabilities of the US, which sends over brown envelopes, courtesy of the taxpayer.
    , @EliteCommInc.
    hmmmmmm . . .


    . . . the US and before the US France and Great Britain. Despite abusing Great Britain's patience and forbearance on Israeli statehood, they stood by Israel. In some ways this has proved detrimental on the international scene as it has denied Israel the responsibility of having to deal with her neighbors.
    , @Vojkan
    The problem mythomaniacs have is that they can make believe for a certain time but eventually, everybody realises they're mythomaniacs. Only nutjobs like American pseudo-christian flat-earthers can be in awe before Israel. Its neighbours hate it because of what it does to them, people like me who had no dog in the fight until Jews pissed them off for no other reason than to prove they're almighty, feel disgust at its mention. I promise you, no one with functional synapses admires nor even likes Israel and no amount of propaganda can help it.
    , @Incitatus
    “They seem to be winning on all the socio-economic and geopolitical fronts they engage. Their neighbours are in awe of their military and espionage capabilities and intellectual dynamism.”

    Don’t forget the cherry tomato.
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  158. El Dato says:
    @Momus
    They seem to be winning on all the socio-economic and geopolitical fronts they engage. Their neighbours are in awe of their military and espionage capabilities and intellectual dynamism.

    They seem to be winning on all the socio-economic and geopolitical fronts they engage. Their neighbours are in awe of their military and espionage capabilities and intellectual dynamism.

    If only Germany had not had a dumbass attack and chilled out to normal levels before going for the Soviet Union, we would be talking like this about the European Reich….

    But in any case, these are mostly the capabilities of the US, which sends over brown envelopes, courtesy of the taxpayer.

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  159. @Momus
    Tiny Israel fought and overwhelmingly won a four fronted war in 1967. Israel is the pre eminent warrior nation.

    Just a tad tiny teeny weeny little flaw in your advertisement

    and it’s a huge and decisive omission

    Not without the US.

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  160. @Momus
    They seem to be winning on all the socio-economic and geopolitical fronts they engage. Their neighbours are in awe of their military and espionage capabilities and intellectual dynamism.

    hmmmmmm . . .

    . . . the US and before the US France and Great Britain. Despite abusing Great Britain’s patience and forbearance on Israeli statehood, they stood by Israel. In some ways this has proved detrimental on the international scene as it has denied Israel the responsibility of having to deal with her neighbors.

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  161. Vojkan says:
    @Momus
    Try following the news?

    You mean the Zionist-owned media fake news? No, thank,you. Some people prefer their food for thought to be organic.

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  162. El Dato says:

    Hey Hey Hey,

    Someone is stuffing the news with bullshit.

    US judge orders Iran to pay billions to families of 9/11 victims

    On Tuesday, a federal judge in New York found Iran, the country’s central bank, and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps liable for the deaths of more than 1,000 people in the September 11 attacks. As a consequence, District Judge George Daniels ordered Iran and its entities to pay over $6 billion in compensation to the victims’ families.

    Wait, didn’t we already have that?

    It is not the first time that Daniels has issued default judgments against Iran. In 2011 and 2016, the New York judge ordered the Islamic Republic to pay billions of dollars to victims of the attacks, which killed nearly 3,000 people.

    We invaded two countries for 9/11 and it’s actually a third that is responsible. Imagine that.

    Comes at the right moment for Bibi’s clownshow. Where is not on my watch Fallon when you want him?

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    This Judge George B. Daniels: https://nomoregames.net/2011/12/26/judge-george-b-daniels-misfires-on-911-again/
    , @redmudhooch

    Someone is stuffing the news with bullshit.

    US judge orders Iran to pay billions to families of 9/11 victims

    On Tuesday, a federal judge in New York found Iran, the country’s central bank, and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps liable for the deaths of more than 1,000 people in the September 11 attacks. As a consequence, District Judge George Daniels ordered Iran and its entities to pay over $6 billion in compensation to the victims’ families.
     
    The USSA is completely broken and corrupted. Even the courts/judges. This would be funny if it wasn't so sad. This "judge" should be fired, banned from stepping foot in a court of law.
    A few years ago I could've never dreamed it was this bad, then you start researching, the level of lawlessness, corruption, treason, and evil, it is mind blowing. Nowhere for the USSA to go but down if this continues much longer.
    Jeff Sessions should be working 20 hour shifts to clean this mess up. But I kinda doubt that.
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  163. annamaria says:
    @Momus
    Israel's obvious need for a defensive capability, as well as her robust oversights and non hegemonic Western democratic traditions means to most that we are safe.

    1. “obvious need for a defensive capability” — for a supposedly “moral” project that has blossomed into a malignancy? Enough of your “eternal victimhood” already; Israel has exhausted the world’s goodwill.
    2. “non hegemonic Western democratic traditions” — the theocratic apartheid of the Jewish State is neither Western nor democratic.
    3. “we are safe” — here is the problem: the ziocons are not concerned with the safety of non-Jews at large.

    To reiterate: “All holocaust memorials should be closed until Israel signs the NNPT [The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons] and allows all nations to inspect.”

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    “All holocaust memorials should be closed until Israel signs the NNPT [The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons] and allows all nations to inspect.”
     
    That's actually a pretty sellable idea.
    , @bjondo


    All holocaust memorials should be closed until Israel signs the NNPT
     
    I would make a slight change: "All holocaust memorials be closed (permanently), redesigned, reassigned to the victims of Jew."
    , @Momus
    1. Israel is is rapidly increasing the number of countries she has diplomatic, trade and cultural relationships with; from Saudi Arabia to South America. This is increasing her diplomatic defensive capability and no one is calling her out on the other. A moral project that is proving stunningly successful.

    2. It is the Muslim nations in Israel's neighbourhood practising theocratic apartheid/genocide.

    3. Why should they be particularly concerned given their history?
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  164. Vojkan says:
    @Momus
    They seem to be winning on all the socio-economic and geopolitical fronts they engage. Their neighbours are in awe of their military and espionage capabilities and intellectual dynamism.

    The problem mythomaniacs have is that they can make believe for a certain time but eventually, everybody realises they’re mythomaniacs. Only nutjobs like American pseudo-christian flat-earthers can be in awe before Israel. Its neighbours hate it because of what it does to them, people like me who had no dog in the fight until Jews pissed them off for no other reason than to prove they’re almighty, feel disgust at its mention. I promise you, no one with functional synapses admires nor even likes Israel and no amount of propaganda can help it.

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    I don't think there's much overlap between flat earthers and Christian Zionists. The most prominent flat earther, Eric Dubay, is maybe the most unshirted critic of Jews and Israel in the public arena. There are plenty of Christian fundamentalists among the flat earthers, because the theory confirms Biblical accounts, but I'd be surprised if almost any of them are Zionists. They believe that space is a fraud perpetrated by Freemasons and Jesuits, and that both are essentially front groups for Jews.
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  165. Anon[373] • Disclaimer says:

    They seem to be winning on all the socio-economic and geopolitical fronts they engage.

    Their birth rate is below replacement level: lowest in Western World. It’s unsustainable.

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    If you are referring to Israel what you say about the (Jewish?) birthrate seems to be completely untrue. See, for example
    https://www.jns.org/israels-jewish-fertility-rate-tops-arabs-for-first-time-defying-demographic-doom/

    An Israeli told me too that it wasn't all the huge families of the Ultra Orthodox (many of whom produce retarded kids because they are so inbred) but included those who tried for a "spare" having regard to the likelihood of their kids actually being shot at or blown up while serving in the IDF. Anyway whatever the reason the fertility rate appears to be double that of Catholic Europe or American Jews.

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  166. El Dato says:

    Nuclear Agency: No Credible Indications of Iran Nuclear Activity After 2009 – Rejects Israeli claims Iran is conducting ‘secret’ weapons research

    The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has issued an assessment Tuesday addressing Israeli allegations of a “secret” Iranian nuclear program. The UN watchdog says there are “no credible indications” of any Iranian activities after 2009.

    Problem, Jewfficer?

    Netanyahoo’s “Iran Files” are Well Known, Old and Purloined from Vienna

    The dog and pony show the Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahoo provided yesterday was not based on material Israeli secret services acquired in Iran, but most likely from data Iran provided to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) during the implementation period of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action.

    Ali Vaez, director of the Iran Project at the Crisis Group, was the first to propose this thesis:

    Ali Vaez @AliVaez – 18:06 UTC – 30 Apr 2018
    5/ It appears to me that what Israel has done is that it has probably hacked the @iaeaorg and gathered some new details from what Iran responded to the agency to close the outstanding issues in 2015: IAEA Board Adopts Landmark Resolution on Iran PMD Case

    Someone once said something about the Big Lie….

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  167. El Dato says:
    @annamaria
    1. "obvious need for a defensive capability" -- for a supposedly "moral" project that has blossomed into a malignancy? Enough of your "eternal victimhood" already; Israel has exhausted the world's goodwill.
    2. "non hegemonic Western democratic traditions" -- the theocratic apartheid of the Jewish State is neither Western nor democratic.
    3. "we are safe" -- here is the problem: the ziocons are not concerned with the safety of non-Jews at large.

    To reiterate: "All holocaust memorials should be closed until Israel signs the NNPT [The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons] and allows all nations to inspect.”

    “All holocaust memorials should be closed until Israel signs the NNPT [The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons] and allows all nations to inspect.”

    That’s actually a pretty sellable idea.

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    “All holocaust memorials should be closed until Israel signs the NNPT [The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons] and allows all nations to inspect.”
     
    Multi-billion dollar welfare check, weapons sales/donations should be cut off too. Permanently.
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  168. annamaria says:
    @El Dato
    Hey Hey Hey,

    Someone is stuffing the news with bullshit.

    US judge orders Iran to pay billions to families of 9/11 victims

    On Tuesday, a federal judge in New York found Iran, the country’s central bank, and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps liable for the deaths of more than 1,000 people in the September 11 attacks. As a consequence, District Judge George Daniels ordered Iran and its entities to pay over $6 billion in compensation to the victims’ families.

    Wait, didn't we already have that?

    It is not the first time that Daniels has issued default judgments against Iran. In 2011 and 2016, the New York judge ordered the Islamic Republic to pay billions of dollars to victims of the attacks, which killed nearly 3,000 people.

    We invaded two countries for 9/11 and it's actually a third that is responsible. Imagine that.

    Comes at the right moment for Bibi's clownshow. Where is not on my watch Fallon when you want him?
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  169. bjondo says:
    @annamaria
    1. "obvious need for a defensive capability" -- for a supposedly "moral" project that has blossomed into a malignancy? Enough of your "eternal victimhood" already; Israel has exhausted the world's goodwill.
    2. "non hegemonic Western democratic traditions" -- the theocratic apartheid of the Jewish State is neither Western nor democratic.
    3. "we are safe" -- here is the problem: the ziocons are not concerned with the safety of non-Jews at large.

    To reiterate: "All holocaust memorials should be closed until Israel signs the NNPT [The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons] and allows all nations to inspect.”

    All holocaust memorials should be closed until Israel signs the NNPT

    I would make a slight change: “All holocaust memorials be closed (permanently), redesigned, reassigned to the victims of Jew.”

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  170. If only Germany had not had a dumbass attack and chilled out to normal levels before going for the Soviet Union, we would be talking like this about the European Reich….

    But in any case, these are mostly the capabilities of the US, which sends over brown envelopes, courtesy of the taxpayer.

    Wow! I get a comment censored for saying “grab” and “pussy” in the same sentence and this Freak waxes nostalgic for The Third Reich, and there’s no censorship.

    I would say there’s a Pravda-like Double Standard in place. Pravda comes in many forms, doesn’t it?

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  171. @El Dato

    “All holocaust memorials should be closed until Israel signs the NNPT [The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons] and allows all nations to inspect.”
     
    That's actually a pretty sellable idea.

    “All holocaust memorials should be closed until Israel signs the NNPT [The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons] and allows all nations to inspect.”

    Multi-billion dollar welfare check, weapons sales/donations should be cut off too. Permanently.

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    American “foreign aid” is prohibited from being given to any country that has not signed the “Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty” or refuses to abide by “International Atomic Energy Agency” (IAEA) guidelines regarding its nuclear devices. Guess what?? Israel does not abide by EITHER and still gets the majority of American “foreign aid”. This prohibition also applies to countries that do not register their “agents of a foreign government” with the U S State Department. Guess what?? Israel (again) with its “American Israel Political Action Committee” (AIPAC) still gets "foreign aid" in contravention of American law..

    There are forty or so congressmen, senators and thousands of high-level policy “wonks” infecting the U S government who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Such dual citizenship must be strictly prohibited. Those holding dual citizenship must be required to renounce said foreign citizenship. Refusal to do so should result in immediate deportation with loss of American citizenship. Present and former holders of dual citizenship should never be allowed to serve in any American governmental capacity.

    When Netanyahu addressed both houses of congress, it was sickening to see our politicians slobber all over themselves to PROVE that they were unconditional supporters of Israel…just who the hell do they work for? Certainly not for the interests of the American people and the United States…they should renounce their United States citizenship and be deported to Israel…
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  172. gsjackson says:
    @Vojkan
    The problem mythomaniacs have is that they can make believe for a certain time but eventually, everybody realises they're mythomaniacs. Only nutjobs like American pseudo-christian flat-earthers can be in awe before Israel. Its neighbours hate it because of what it does to them, people like me who had no dog in the fight until Jews pissed them off for no other reason than to prove they're almighty, feel disgust at its mention. I promise you, no one with functional synapses admires nor even likes Israel and no amount of propaganda can help it.

    I don’t think there’s much overlap between flat earthers and Christian Zionists. The most prominent flat earther, Eric Dubay, is maybe the most unshirted critic of Jews and Israel in the public arena. There are plenty of Christian fundamentalists among the flat earthers, because the theory confirms Biblical accounts, but I’d be surprised if almost any of them are Zionists. They believe that space is a fraud perpetrated by Freemasons and Jesuits, and that both are essentially front groups for Jews.

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    I stand corrected. Each group has its own variety of lunacy regarding interpreting the Bible and I was mistaken to conflate them.
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  173. Incitatus says:
    @Momus
    They seem to be winning on all the socio-economic and geopolitical fronts they engage. Their neighbours are in awe of their military and espionage capabilities and intellectual dynamism.

    “They seem to be winning on all the socio-economic and geopolitical fronts they engage. Their neighbours are in awe of their military and espionage capabilities and intellectual dynamism.”

    Don’t forget the cherry tomato.

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  174. Rurik says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    It is not uncommon to find truths humorous. I thought the line in such stark contrast as to be funny., I thought. I thought you asked that question previously -- hence painfully humorous.

    I would encourage you not to manufacture controversy --


    on the issue Germany -- I guess you wanted to ask a question, but raced headlong into a fuss -- here's the answer to the question your probably should have asked.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/when-allies-should-just-shut-up/

    http://www.dw.com/en/merkel-german-government-say-us-missile-strikes-in-syria-understandable/a-38341124

    https://www.express.co.uk/pictures/pics/12136/World-reactions-strike-Syria-Trump-Russia-US-missile-pictures


    The EU largely supports as does NATO

    https://sputniknews.com/europe/201804151063573067-nato-support-syria-strikes/


    I am very sure that includes germany

    It is not uncommon to find truths humorous. I thought the line in such stark contrast as to be funny.,

    in contrast to what?

    here’s the truth, as written, that you found so funny

    the unfortunate truth is that going to war with Iran is popular among the policy makers and media for the usual reason: it is a major foreign policy objective of the Israeli government and its powerful U.S. lobby.

    how many readers out there are busting a gut laughing at that I wonder.. not. Because I know the answer – none.

    it may have been a knee slapper for you, but another reason that’s odd is because you’re the driest, least humorous person here.

    I would encourage you not to manufacture controversy –

    umm.. this is a comment section for matters of extreme exigency in the world today.

    I didn’t manufacture any controversy EliteCommInc. Hardly. Rather, I’m just here to comment on the death-slog to more wars for Israel, which are all contrived and manufactured by scumfucks to the detriment of every single person on this planet, with the exception of psychopathic Jewish supremacists, war pig profiteers, treasonous politicians, and perhaps worst of all; Christian Zionists.

    The controversy is that these wars are evil and wrong and all based on lies, if you’ve stopped laughing long enough to notice that. And that 9/11 was perpetrated by these scumfucks as the devil’s pretext to drag 21st century humanity into a Satanic abyss of endless wars for Israel (much like the 20th), and get millions of people slaughtered, and tens or hundreds of millions of people’s lives destroyed utterly, and all for the greater glory of Israel. Duh.

    Still laughing?

    Your first link is to The American Cuckservative, where in nauseous contempt for their sniveling cowardice, I don’t go. Nevertheless, I read your article, and notice that it says exactly what I pointed out, that Germany wants no part of the war on Syria. And refuses to participate. (good on them!)

    I’ll close this reply now so it doesn’t get too long. And if I find something in your other links that implies that Germany is keen to join in an attack on Syria, (rather than just tepid verbalizations to keep it in the good graces of the Fiend), I’ll let you know.

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    Bravo
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  175. SumDood says:
    @Vojkan
    Whatever the nature of the political rule in Iran, there's a signed multilateral agreement.
    Whatever you believe the intentions of the Iranians are, civilised people judge actions using evidence, not alleged intentions, notwithstanding that regarding intentions, I'd trust an Iranian over an Israeli any time.
    As for the "land bridge" to the Mediterranean, we common sense people call that a road and we believe roads are good for trade and therefore for peace.

    @vojkan “there’s a signed multilateral agreement.”

    Like the ironclad German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact? I bet you think “Gun Free Zone” signs actually keep guns out, right?

    In any case, the agreement you reference is about to end. We have no obligation to honor it after it expires.

    “civilised people judge actions using evidence, not alleged intentions,”

    Civilized people don’t lie pathologically. Civilized people don’t violate the embassy of a sovereign nation and take hostages.

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    "Civilized people don’t lie pathologically. Civilized people don’t violate the embassy of a sovereign nation [...]"

    I infer that you consider Americans to be uncivilised people.
    , @annamaria
    "Civilized people don’t violate..." --- The lady doth protest too much: https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/05/symbolic-donbass-war-to-resume-on-victory-day/
    "...the escalation of the conflict [the civil war in Eastern Ukraine] is carried out specifically to disrupt celebrations of Victory Day – Soviet victory over Fascism."
    --- The US ziocons had come to Kiev in 2014 and since then Ukraine has been a playing field for the collaborative activities of ziocons & banderites. This Bandera, "SumDood:" https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/09/stepan-bandera-nationalist-euromaidan-right-sector/
    The holocaustians have been displaying the expected cognitive blindness re the Kagans clan' neo-Nazi project in Ukraine.
    Moreover, before making a laundry list of Iranian misdeeds, why don't you, "SumDood" refresh your memory about the terrorist beginning -- and continuation -- of your apartheid theocratic Jewish state? (See USSLiberty, Pollard, the Gaza Ghetto scandal, the incessant pushing for wars in Israel in Iraq, Libya, and Syria).
    Iran has not been robbing the US taxpayers annually -- Israel has. Iran has not been making a joke out of the US republic by bribing and blackmailing the US Congress -- Israel has. This is why we have the zionized US Congress and the zonized (partially) US military.
    Iran has not been threatening the European capitals with Samson option -- Israel has.
    Unlike law-abiding Iran, a signatory to NNPT, Israel refuses to let the NNPT inspectors inspect Israeli nuclear arsenal (obtained by deception). Moreover, Israel refuses to ratify the bio- and chemical weapon conventions. http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/israel-refuses-ratify-treaty-banning-chemical-weapons/
    Your whining and profiteering state is a moral midget (along with the thuggish Lobby in the US and the imbecile Friends of Israel in the UK) that has violated all and any rules of western civilization.
    Iran has not been supporting ISIS -- Israel has.
    Deal with your neighbors (cousins) on your own. Leave western civilization alone.
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  176. SumDood says:
    @Cold N. Holefield

    And only an idiot thinks that Iran under the mullahs is a better place for its citizens than Iran under the Shah.
     
    I'll add.....

    And only an idiot thinks that Iran under the Shah was a better place for its citizens than Iran would have been under Mossadeq had the CIA not murdered him to reseat the Shah.
     

    @ Colon Holefield

    “And only an idiot thinks that Iran under the Shah was a better place for its citizens than Iran would have been under Mossadeq had the CIA not murdered him to reseat the Shah.”

    How many women were beaten for not wearing a burka when the Shah was in charge?

    What was Iran’s GDP when the Shah was in charge, and what is it now, after decades of mullahs running things?

    And maybe you’re the kind of creature that thinks that a KGB asset like Mossadegh is a perfectly good candidate.

    Don’t waste peoples time on your dizzy idealism. If everyone is bought, a smart strategy is to make sure WE do the buying.

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    Don’t waste peoples time on your dizzy idealism. If everyone is bought, a smart strategy is to make sure (((WE))) do the buying.
     
    fixed if for ya
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  177. SumDood says:
    @annamaria
    Hey, hasbarist, have you forgotten this?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7uEXeByqhg&feature=youtu.be

    “Hey, hasbarist, have you forgotten this?”

    Thanks for teaching me a new word, but it doesn’t apply to me.

    Israel fucked up in attacking the Liberty, and I have never excused or defended that act. Dayan was an asshole.

    But…back to the issue at hand. Please explain how Iran’s behavior has been civilized and peaceful under the mullahs.

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    Please explain how Iran’s behavior has been civilized and peaceful under the mullahs.
     
    Why don't you point out when or where Iran's behavior was anything but.

    It was the ZUSA who imposed the brutal regime of the Shah on Iran, and then used their asset Saddam to wage war on Iran when Iran heroically freed itself from the death grip of the Great Satan.

    Check out the methods used by the Mossad/CIA to terrorize the Iranian people with their organization SAVAK during the Shahs oppressive regime.

    Yes, the women were encouraged to wear miniskirts and I'm sure by now would be aping the antics of British and American females- who're starting to smell like cum-splattered gutter sluts no man in his right mind would ever consider as a suitable life-partner. So if I had a choice between Amy Schumer or burka girl, I'd happily pick door number two, because it could hardly be any worse than a vicious and vile, man-hating slag.

    Boy oh boy did Iran dodge a bullet when it repudiated the morally grotesque zio-west for its culture.

    http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3564587.1508085127!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/71168279.jpg

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  178. Vojkan says:
    @gsjackson
    I don't think there's much overlap between flat earthers and Christian Zionists. The most prominent flat earther, Eric Dubay, is maybe the most unshirted critic of Jews and Israel in the public arena. There are plenty of Christian fundamentalists among the flat earthers, because the theory confirms Biblical accounts, but I'd be surprised if almost any of them are Zionists. They believe that space is a fraud perpetrated by Freemasons and Jesuits, and that both are essentially front groups for Jews.

    I stand corrected. Each group has its own variety of lunacy regarding interpreting the Bible and I was mistaken to conflate them.

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    Maybe so on the lunacy, but bear in mind some things about the flat earthers, at least the ones putting the argument forward in public, primarily through youtube videos. Every one of them self identifies first and foremost as a skeptic about the official story, not as a true believer of any sort. Some -- a minority -- are Christian fundamentalists, but those see the Bible only as further confirmation of observational evidence.

    Geopolitically they align almost identically with most of the people who comment here at Unz. They size up the ruling class roughly according to the same parameters. They believe absolutely nothing that comes from government or through the mainstream media. They are among the last people who could be propagandized into supporting war. They're just calling bullshit on moon landings, photo-shopped planet pictures, the Big Bang, a ball planet spinning 1,000 mph and hurtling through space at 67,000 mph -- just as people here call BS on every word that comes out of Bibi's mouth.
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  179. SumDood says:
    @renfro

    Funding the Beirut barracks attack?
     
    Israel is responsible for the Beirut attack.

    https://www.wrmea.org/1995-march/israel-charged-with-systematic-harassment-of-u.s.-marines.html

    Israel Charged With Systematic Harassment of U.S. Marines
    By Donald Neff


    It was 12 years ago, on March 14, 1983, that the commandant of the Marine Corps sent a highly unusual letter to the secretary of defense expressing frustration and anger at Israel. General R.H. Barrow charged that Israeli troops were deliberately threatening the lives of Marines serving as peacekeepers in Lebanon. There was, he wrote, a systematic pattern of harassment by Israel Defense Forces (IDF) that was resulting in "life-threatening situations, replete with verbal degradation of the officers, their uniform and country."

    Barrow's letter added: "It is inconceivable to me why Americans serving in peacekeeping roles must be harassed, endangered by an ally...It is evident to me, and the opinion of the U.S. commanders afloat and ashore, that the incidents between the Marines and the IDF are timed, orchestrated, and executed for obtuse Israeli political purposes."1

    Israel's motives were less obtuse than the diplomatic general pretended. It was widely believed then, and now, that Israeli Defense Minister Ariel Sharon, one of Israel's most Machiavellian politician-generals, was creating the incidents deliberately in an effort to convince Washington that the two forces had to coordinate their actions in order to avoid such tensions. This, of course, would have been taken by the Arabs as proof that the Marines were not really in Lebanon as neutral peacekeepers but as allies of the Israelis, a perception that would have obvious advantages for Israel.2

    Barrow's extraordinary letter was indicative of the frustrations and miseries the Marines suffered during their posting to Lebanon starting on Aug. 25, 1982, as a result of Israel's invasion 11 weeks earlier. Initially a U.S. unit of 800 men was sent to Beirut harbor as part of a multinational force to monitor the evacuation of PLO guerrillas from Beirut.
    The Marines, President Reagan announced, "in no case... would stay longer than 30 days."3 This turned out to be only partly true. They did withdraw on Sept. 10, but a reinforced unit of 1,200 was rushed back 15 days later after the massacres at the Palestinian refugee camps at Sabra and Shatila that accompanied the Israeli seizure of West Beirut. The U.S. forces remained until Feb. 26, 1984.4
    During their-year-and-a-half posting in Lebanon, the Marines suffered 268 killed.5 The casualties started within a week of the return of the Marines in September 1982. On the 30th, a U.S.-made cluster bomb left behind by the Israelis exploded, killing Corporal David Reagan and wounding three other Marines.6

    Corporal Reagan's death represented the dangers of the new mission of the Marines in Lebanon. While their first brief stay had been to separate Israeli forces from Palestinian fighters evacuating West Beirut, their new mission was as part of a multinational force sent to prevent Israeli troops from attacking the Palestinian civilians left defenseless there after the withdrawal of PLO forces. As President Reagan said: "For this multinational force to succeed, it is essential that Israel withdraw from Beirut."7

    "Incidents are timed, orchestrated, and executed for Israeli political purposes."

    Israel's siege of Beirut during the summer of 1982 had been brutal and bloody, reaching a peak of horror on Aug. 12, quickly known as Black Thursday. On that day, Sharon's forces launched at dawn a massive artillery barrage that lasted for 11 straight hours and was accompanied by saturation air bombardment.8 As many as 500 persons, mainly Lebanese and Palestinian civilians, were killed.9

    On top of the bombardment came the massacres the next month at Sabra and Shatila, where Sharon's troops allowed Lebanese Maronite killers to enter the camps filled with defenseless civilians. The massacres sickened the international community and pressure from Western capitals finally forced Israel to withdraw from Beirut in late September. Troops from Britain, France, Italy and the United States were interposed between the Israeli army and Beirut, with U.S. Marines deployed in the most sensitive area south of Beirut at the International Airport, directly between Israeli troops and West Beirut.

    It was at the airport that the Marines would suffer their Calvary over the next year. Starting in January 1983, small Israeli units began probing the Marine lines. At first the effort appeared aimed at discovering the extent of Marine determination to resist penetration. The lines proved solid and the Marines' determination strong. Israeli troops were politely but firmly turned away. Soon the incidents escalated, with both sides pointing loaded weapons at each other but no firing taking place. Tensions were high enough by late January that a special meeting between U.S. and Israeli officers was held in Beirut to try to agree on precise boundaries beyond which the IDF would not penetrate.10

    No Stranger to the Marines

    However, on Feb. 2 a unit of three Israeli tanks, led by Israeli Lt. Col. Rafi Landsberg, tried to pass through Marine/Lebanese Army lines at Rayan University Library in south Lebanon. By this time, Landsberg was no stranger to the Marines. Since the beginning of January he had been leading small Israeli units in probes against the Marine lines, although such units would normally have a commander no higher than a sergeant or lieutenant. The suspicion grew that Sharon's troops were deliberately provoking the Marines and Landsberg was there to see that things did not get out of hand. The Israeli tactics were aimed more at forcing a joint U.S.-Israeli strategy than merely probing lines.

    In the Feb. 2 incident, the checkpoint was commanded by Marine Capt. Charles Johnson, who firmly refused permission for Landsberg to advance. When two of the Israeli tanks ignored his warning to halt, Johnson leaped on Landsberg's tank with pistol drawn and demanded Landsberg and his tanks withdraw. They did.11

    Landsberg and the Israeli embassy in Washington tried to laugh off the incident, implying that Johnson was a trigger-happy John Wayne type and that the media were exaggerating a routine event. Landsberg even went so far as to claim that he smelled alcohol on Johnson's breath and that drunkenness must have clouded his reason. Marines were infuriated because Johnson was well known as a teetotaler. Americans flocked to Johnson's side. He received hundreds of letters from school children, former Marines and from Commandant Barrow.12 It was a losing battle for the Israelis and Landsberg soon dropped from sight.

    But the incidents did not stop. These now included "helicopter harassment," by which U.S.-made helicopters with glaring spotlights were flown by the Israelis over Marine positions at night, illuminating Marine outposts and exposing them to potential attack. As reports of these incidents piled up, Gen. Barrow received a letter on March 12 from a U.S. Army major stationed in Lebanon with the United Nations Truce Supervisory Organization (UNTSO). The letter described a systematic pattern of Israeli attacks and provocations against UNTSO troops, including instances in which U.S. officers were singled out for "near-miss" shootings, abuse and detention.13 That same day two Marine patrols were challenged and cursed by Israeli soldiers.1


    Two days later Barrow wrote his letter to Secretary of Defense Caspar W. Weinberger, who endorsed it and sent it along to the State Department. High-level meetings were arranged and the incidents abated, perhaps largely because by this time Ariel Sharon had been fired as defense minister. He had been found by an Israeli commission to have had "personal responsibility" for the Sabra and Shatila massacres.15
    Despite the bad taste left from the clashes with the Israelis, in fact no Marines had been killed in the incidents and their lines had been secure up to the end of winter in 1983. Then Islamic guerrillas, backed by Iran, became active. On the night of April 17, 1983, an unknown sniper fired a shot that went through the trousers of a Marine sentry but did not harm him. For the first time, the Marines returned fire.16

    The next day, the U.S. Embassy in Beirut was blown up by a massive bomb, with the loss of 63 lives. Among the 17 Americans killed were CIA Mideast specialists, including Robert C. Ames, the agency's top Middle East expert.17

    Disaffected former Israeli Mossad case officer Victor Ostrovsky later claimed that Israel had advance information about the bombing plan but had decided not to inform the United States, a claim denied by Israel.18 The Iranian-backed Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility. Veteran correspondent John Cooley considered the attack "the day [Iranian leader Ayatollah] Khomeini's offensive against America in Lebanon began in earnest." 19
    Still, it was not until four months later, on Aug. 28, that Marines came under direct fire by rocket-propelled grenades and automatic weapons at International Airport. They returned fire with M-16 rifles and M-60 machine guns. The firefight resumed the next day with Marines firing 155mm artillery, 81mm mortars and rockets from Cobra helicopter gunships against Shi'i Muslim positions. Two Marines were killed and 14 wounded in the exchange, the first casualties in actual combat since the Marines had landed the previous year.20

    From this time on, the combat involvement of the Marines grew. Their actions were generally seen as siding with Israel against Muslims, slowly changing the status of the Marines as neutral peacekeepers to opponents of the Muslims.21 Israel could hardly have wished for more. The polarization meant that increasingly the conflict was being perceived in terms of the U.S., Israel and Lebanon's Christians against Iran, Islam and Lebanon's Shi'i Muslims.
    Accelerating the Conflict

    Israel accelerated the building conflict on Sept. 3, 1993 by unilaterally withdrawing its troops southward, leaving the Marines exposed behind their thin lines at the airport. The United States had asked the Israeli government to delay its withdrawal until the Marines could be replaced by units of the Lebanese army, but Israel refused.22 The result was as feared. Heavy fighting immediately broke out between the Christian Lebanese Forces and the pro-Syrian Druze units, both seeking to occupy positions evacuated by Israel, while the Marines were left in the crossfire. 23On Sept. 5, two Marines were killed and three wounded as fighting escalated between Christian and Muslim militias.24
    In an ill-considered effort to subdue the combat, the Sixth Fleet frigate Bowen fired several five-inch naval guns, hitting Druze artillery positions in the Chouf Mountains that were firing into the Marine compound at Beirut airport.25 It was the first time U.S. ships had fired into Lebanon, dramatically raising the level of combat. But the Marines' exposed location on the flat terrain of the airport left them in an impossible position. On Sept. 12, three more Marines were wounded. 26
    On Sept. 13, President Reagan authorized what was called aggressive self-defense for the Marines, including air and naval strikes.27 Five days later the United States essentially joined the war against the Muslims when four U.S. warships unleashed the heaviest naval bombardment since Vietnam into Syrian and Druze positions in eastern Lebanon in support of the Lebanese Christians.28 The bombardment lasted for three days and was personally ordered by National Security Council director Robert McFarlane, a Marine Corps officer detailed to the White House who was in Lebanon at the time and was also a strong supporter of Israel and its Lebanese Maronite Christian allies. McFarlane issued the order despite the fact that the Marine commander at the airport, Colonel Timothy Geraghty, strenuously argued against it because, in the words of correspondent Thomas L. Friedman, "he knew that it would make his soldiers party to what was now clearly an intra-Lebanese fight, and that the Lebanese Muslims would not retaliate against the Navy's ships at sea but against the Marines on shore." 29

    By now, the Marines were under daily attack and Muslims were charging they were no longer neutral.30 At the same time the battleship USS New Jersey, with 16-inch guns, arrived off Lebanon, increasing the number of U.S. warships offshore to 14. Similarly, the Marine contingent at Beirut airport was increased from 1,200 to 1,600.31

    A Tragic Climax
    The fight now was truly joined between the Shi'i Muslims and the Marines, who were essentially pinned down in their airport bunkers and under orders not to take offensive actions. The tragic climax of their predicament came on Oct. 23, when a Muslim guerrilla drove a truck past guards at the Marine airport compound and detonated an explosive with the force of 12,000 pounds of dynamite under a building housing Marines and other U.S. personnel. Almost simultaneously, a car-bomb exploded at the French compound in Beirut. Casualties were 241 Americans and 58 French troops killed. The bombings were the work of Hezbollah, made up of Shi'i Muslim guerrillas supported by Iran.32
    America's agony increased on Dec. 3, when two carrier planes were downed by Syrian missiles during heavy U.S. air raids on eastern Lebanon.33On the same day, eight Marines were killed in fighting with Muslim militiamen around the Beirut airport.34
    By the start of 1984, an all-out Shi'i Muslim campaign to rid Lebanon of all Americans was underway. The highly respected president of the American University of Beirut, Dr. Malcolm Kerr, a distinguished scholar of the Arab world, was gunned down on Jan. 18 outside his office by Islamic militants aligned with Iran.35

    On Feb. 5, Reagan made one of his stand-tall speeches by saying that "the situation in Lebanon is difficult, frustrating and dangerous. But this is no reason to turn our backs on friends and to cut and run."36
    The next day Professor Frank Regier, a U.S. citizen teaching at AUB, was kidnapped by Muslim radicals.37 Regier's kidnapping was the beginning of a series of kidnappings of Americans in Beirut that would hound the Reagan and later the Bush administrations for years and lead to the eventual expulsion of nearly all Americans from Lebanon where they had prospered for more than a century. Even today Americans still are prohibited from traveling to Lebanon.
    The day after Regier's kidnapping, on Feb. 7, 1984, Reagan suddenly reversed himself and announced that all U.S. Marines would shortly be "redeployed." The next day the battleship USS New Jersey fired 290 rounds of one-ton shells from its 16-inch guns into Lebanon as a final act of U.S. frustration.38 Reagan's "redeployment" was completed by Feb. 26, when the last of the Marines retreated from Lebanon.
    The mission of the Marines had been a humiliating failure—not because they failed in their duty but because the political backbone in Washington was lacking. The Marines had arrived in 1982 with all sides welcoming them. They left in 1984 despised by many and the object of attacks by Muslims. Even relations with Israel were strained, if not in Washington where a sympathetic Congress granted increased aid to the Jewish state to compensate it for the costs of its bungled invasion, then between the Marines and Israeli troops who had confronted each other in a realpolitik battlefield that was beyond their competence or understanding. The Marine experience in Lebanon did not contribute toward a favorable impression of Israel among many Americans, especially since the Marines would not have been in Lebanon except for Israel's unprovoked invasion.
    This negative result is perhaps one reason a number of Israelis and their supporters today oppose sending U.S. peacekeepers to the Golan Heights as part of a possible Israeli-Syrian peace treaty. A repeat of the 1982-84 experience would certainly not be in Israel's interests at a time when its supporters are seeking to have a budget-conscious Congress continue unprecedented amounts of aid to Israel.

    Renfro, please find me an unbiased source for your claims.

    “From Wikipedia, “The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (also known as The Washington Report and WRMEA) is A NON PARTISAN, magazine [my emphasis] * * * focusing on “news and analysis from and about the Middle East and U.S. policy in that region. The New York Times has characterized it as “critical of United States policies in the Middle East.” I have never seen an article in WRMEA that was not strongly biased against Israel.”

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    Renfro, please find me an unbiased source for your claims
     
    Oh please, please find me an unbiased source..please, please ,I dont know how, all they ever told me about at Jew troll school was wiki jew central.....help me please!....sob.
    Here lettle monkey have a banana....from the NYT jew rag.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/01/washington/01barrow.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

    In 1983, General Barrow made news after a letter he wrote to the secretary of defense, Caspar W. Weinberger, criticizing Israeli soldiers in Lebanon, was released by the Pentagon. General Barrow said Israeli soldiers were firing guns at American troops, among other things.


    And the author of the article ? Donald Neff was an American historian, journalist for 16 years for Time, and was a former Time bureau chief in Israel. He also worked for the Washington Star.
    Neff served in the army from 1948 until 1950.
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  180. SumDood says:
    @MarkinLA
    Only an idiot thinks that Iran is honest.

    Only an idiot thinks that Israel is honest. With two liars lying constantly, who to believe? Maybe it is best to tune both of them out and stay out of it..

    @Markinla

    “Only an idiot thinks that Israel is honest. With two liars lying constantly, who to believe? Maybe it is best to tune both of them out and stay out of it..”

    Countries act in their own self-interest. I am pleased that the USA is returning to that philosophy, and pushing back against foreign interference.

    But, while both Iran and Israel might be liars…only one of those countries has constantly attacked US (and other countries’) interests around the globe: Iran.

    Violating territorial sovereignty and invading an embassy; Taking & abusing hostages (1979) Attacking another embassy (1987, Saudi Arabia). Attacking yet another embassy (1987, Kuwait). Attacking unarmed ships in the Persian Gulf. Supporting Hezbollah in attacking US and French interests. Killing 3 Saudi diplomats in Thailand (1990). Bombing a Jewish center in Argentina (1994). Khobar towers bombing (1996). Riyahd bombing (2003). Attacking yet another embassy (Pakistan, 2009). Killing a Saudi diplomat in Pakistan (2011). And yet another embassy attack (UK, 2011). Take a guess: another embassy attack (2016).

    Even the Arab League condemned Iran for all of its attacks on diplomats.

    Please remind me: how many embassies has Israel attacked?

    We should have turned Tehran into a glass parking lot in 1980. But there’s hope we might yet do so!

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    Sure you have forgotten about srael attack to a USN navy vessel in ME, staged 911, parasitic controlling of US in gov, finance, banking, FED, msm, etc. Driving US into many wars for Israel in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, …and now trying on Iran that do no one harm except resisting Israel&Saudi joint effort wahabhi terrorism & Yinon plan.

    What Iran did was all for self defense or retaliation against aggression done by US & its stooges.

    Nethanyahoo is pathological liar, so are many of his joos men embedded in US & whole world, isn't George Soros its poster boy for threat to world peace?

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  181. Rurik says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    It is not uncommon to find truths humorous. I thought the line in such stark contrast as to be funny., I thought. I thought you asked that question previously -- hence painfully humorous.

    I would encourage you not to manufacture controversy --


    on the issue Germany -- I guess you wanted to ask a question, but raced headlong into a fuss -- here's the answer to the question your probably should have asked.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/when-allies-should-just-shut-up/

    http://www.dw.com/en/merkel-german-government-say-us-missile-strikes-in-syria-understandable/a-38341124

    https://www.express.co.uk/pictures/pics/12136/World-reactions-strike-Syria-Trump-Russia-US-missile-pictures


    The EU largely supports as does NATO

    https://sputniknews.com/europe/201804151063573067-nato-support-syria-strikes/


    I am very sure that includes germany

    The EU largely supports as does NATO

    https://sputniknews.com/europe/201804151063573067-nato-support-syria-strikes/

    I am very sure that includes germany

    the EU is the other half of the Siamese twin the Fed. Its dictums are Rothschild’s dictums. ‘What’s good for the Zionist Jews in all things, IOW. Duh.

    NATO is nothing more or less than the enforcement arm of Rothschild’s Jewish supremacist, zio-global banking racket. Duh.

    It’s true that Germany and others are forced to abase themselves to the Fiend, and pay lip service to atrocities and war crimes and lies, but at least they have enough decency not to participate directly in the murderous rapine and serial wars of aggression that the ZUSA is waging all over the planet (on behalf of Israel).

    Germany didn’t want war in the last century, but had if foisted upon them by Jewish supremacists in Russia, London, Paris and NYC.

    Today those Jewish supremacists are largely out of influence in Russia, but they control the ZUSA in near absolute terms. Certainly the Senate and most of the House. And so you have the sycophantic rubber stamp for any and all wars (for Israel) from the ZUS congress. Duh.

    The question (or controversy ; ) that’s on everyone’s mind, is just how dominated by these Satanic Jewish supremacist$ is Donald J. Trump.

    Bibi is so over-the-top psycho for more Americans (and especially Germans) to die in the Eternal Wars for Israel, that he’s making an absolute ass of himself on the world’s stage.

    There’s irony in that it was Germany who didn’t want war in the last century, but was blamed for it all when Rothschild and the Jewish banking cartels forced war on the world.

    Just as today, it is again Germany that doesn’t want war, and yet if you know how to read between the lines, this quote from your American Cuckservative article…

    “Germany will not be militarily involved,” she explained, surprising no one. However, before the attack, she said “We recognize and we support the fact that every effort is being made to signal that the use of chemical weapons is unacceptable.” After the event, Merkel explained: “The military response was successful and appropriate.” Bloomberg called this “unequivocal support.”

    How generous. Bloomberg might have also observed that the Germans felt no obligation to actually do anything.

    the emphasis on “do anything” was the authors, not mine.

    And if you’ve grown up in the West, as I have, you learn to understand how words are put together, and why. Most of what many authors are trying to get across, is not stated directly. It’s implied. By tweaking our carefully manufactured and expertly programmed sub-consciences, and speaking to that as much or more than to our consciousness. So when they have an agenda, (as nearly all of them of course do. Duh) they use tricks to move their readers in this direction or that, you see?

    So, when the author of the article says of ‘Germany’; (a word that is wrought with a thousand sub-conscious and emotional, psychic triggers) that when it comes to Syria, (read Israel or ‘the Jews – another word with carefully implanted and powerful emotional, psychic triggers) there are known and existing psychological trip-wires all going off in the modern human’s brain.

    ‘The world’s Jews (victims) are again menaced by a known threat and aggressive tyrant – Assad/Putin = Hitler

    and what does Germany do?!?!

    They don’t “do anything”!

    it’s deja vu all over again, as the Jews are being railroaded to gas chambers by Iran and Syria and Russia, and what does the Gentile world (especially Germany!) do?!

    They don’t “do anything” !

    Just like not bombing the rail lines into Auschwitz, the anti-Semitic world (especially Germany!) sits on their hands and allows the innocent Jews to suffer and suffer.

    Let’s unravel the code and programming we’ve all marinated in. It will free our minds.

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  182. Vojkan says:
    @SumDood
    @vojkan "there’s a signed multilateral agreement."

    Like the ironclad German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact? I bet you think "Gun Free Zone" signs actually keep guns out, right?

    In any case, the agreement you reference is about to end. We have no obligation to honor it after it expires.

    "civilised people judge actions using evidence, not alleged intentions,"

    Civilized people don't lie pathologically. Civilized people don't violate the embassy of a sovereign nation and take hostages.

    “Civilized people don’t lie pathologically. Civilized people don’t violate the embassy of a sovereign nation [...]”

    I infer that you consider Americans to be uncivilised people.

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  183. Zumbuddi says:
    @Seamus Padraig
    Bibi wasn't elevated to anything by the CIA; he was already Zionist royalty, his father having been Ze'ev Jabotinsky's personal secretary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzion_Netanyahu

    (Jabotinsky--for those who don't know--was a radical Zionist who fought with the Irgun terrorist group against the Brits, and it was he who first came up with the 'Greater Israel' plan that the Netanyahoos have dedicated themselves to ever since.)

    Bibi's older brother Yonatan was a commander of an elite IDF commando unit which successfully staged a raid at Entebbe, Unganda in 1976. Yonatan probably was the heir-apparent, but alas, he was killed during the raid, so Bibi had to fill in.

    Nice try, hasba-rat! Now go peddle your Noam-Chomsky nonsense elsewhere ...

    Good information, Seamus P, thanks.

    About Yonatan and his “tragic” death, a martyr, his death “broke his father’s heart.”

    I think it’s BS.

    Jonathan was frequently at odds with his father and his family.

    He was psychologically Lost, could not make the frequent transitions between Anglo-USA and Israel that is required of an effective international agent. He was NOT a rootless cosmopolitan, his psyche needed the kind of stable sense of belongi g that he four d only in his mi.itary unit.

    Jon could not have taken on the role Bibi performs. So he was “martyred” at Entebbe.

    It’s not a new concept in Judahite tradition to do away with the first-born.

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  184. @redmudhooch
    Just remember Iran, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan..... have never attacked America, probably never will, unless provoked to do so, which is exactly what we are doing now.

    Who has attacked America? Israel, Saudis, Pakis, our allies and traitors within our own "government". Let that sink in. That is who our "government" is now. Allied with the enemy. Traitors, every one of them that kiss Israels ass, sell the Saudis billions in weaponry, send billions in taxpayer foreign aid.

    9/11, Lavon affair, USS Liberty, JFK assassination, Las Vegas Massacre, many more that we still don't know of because they control the media.

    The Israelis and traitors are cooking up a false flag right now as we speak to justify war with Iran. The provocations don't seem to be working fast enough...

    https://youtu.be/y7uEXeByqhg

    I don’t intend to comment one way or another on the USS Liberty affair but ote sith interest that the very short video that you linked doesn’t help the anti Israeli cause especially when one can choose the very long BBC documentary linked earlier. In particular the attempt to portray the US admininistration as trying to facilitate the ship’s destruction and killing of its crew by writing of the recall of plains sent to protect them makes no sense. The planes couldn’t have protected them as eell as a call from DC could and the planes which took off and were recalled appear to be those prepared for a nuclear attack on Egypt.

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  185. Rurik says:
    @SumDood
    @ Colon Holefield

    "And only an idiot thinks that Iran under the Shah was a better place for its citizens than Iran would have been under Mossadeq had the CIA not murdered him to reseat the Shah."

    How many women were beaten for not wearing a burka when the Shah was in charge?

    What was Iran's GDP when the Shah was in charge, and what is it now, after decades of mullahs running things?

    And maybe you're the kind of creature that thinks that a KGB asset like Mossadegh is a perfectly good candidate.

    Don't waste peoples time on your dizzy idealism. If everyone is bought, a smart strategy is to make sure WE do the buying.

    Don’t waste peoples time on your dizzy idealism. If everyone is bought, a smart strategy is to make sure (((WE))) do the buying.

    fixed if for ya

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  186. @Anon

    They seem to be winning on all the socio-economic and geopolitical fronts they engage.

     

    Their birth rate is below replacement level: lowest in Western World. It's unsustainable.

    If you are referring to Israel what you say about the (Jewish?) birthrate seems to be completely untrue. See, for example

    https://www.jns.org/israels-jewish-fertility-rate-tops-arabs-for-first-time-defying-demographic-doom/

    An Israeli told me too that it wasn’t all the huge families of the Ultra Orthodox (many of whom produce retarded kids because they are so inbred) but included those who tried for a “spare” having regard to the likelihood of their kids actually being shot at or blown up while serving in the IDF. Anyway whatever the reason the fertility rate appears to be double that of Catholic Europe or American Jews.

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    of their kids actually being shot at or blown up while serving in the IDF

     

    the ultra orthodox don't serve in the IDF wiz. Being as they're fundamentally cowards, if anything.

    Don't you know of the exhortation that "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." --Rabbi Ya'acov

    imagine an Orthodox Jewish boy on a roof top participating with the brave IDF in shooting Palestinian children for fun.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAvViXi5tQs

    or shooting at unarmed Palestinian protesters like they did recently, now imagine if one of those protesters, some twelve year old boy, perhaps, were to throw a rock in their general direction. Imagine if that Jew's fingernail was damaged while running away!

    The humanity!

    Or, for God's sake, what if a Palestinian teenage girl were to slap an Orthodox Jew?!?!?!

    That would be nothing short of another Holocaust!

    and isn't the mantra Never Again!

    So by keeping away from any danger whatsoever, these precious Orthodox Jews will never be threated by anything more menacing than a chicken trying to protect itself from ritual sacrifice.

    which is terrifying enough!

    https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2017/08/F161010NS15-e1503919459105.jpg

    I figured a Jewish supremacist and uber-Zionst like you would know of such things.

    But it might be changing.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/ultra-orthodox-minister-sticks-to-threat-to-topple-coalition-over-idf-draft-bill/
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  187. Rurik says:
    @SumDood
    @annamaria

    "Hey, hasbarist, have you forgotten this?"

    Thanks for teaching me a new word, but it doesn't apply to me.

    Israel fucked up in attacking the Liberty, and I have never excused or defended that act. Dayan was an asshole.

    But...back to the issue at hand. Please explain how Iran's behavior has been civilized and peaceful under the mullahs.

    Please explain how Iran’s behavior has been civilized and peaceful under the mullahs.

    Why don’t you point out when or where Iran’s behavior was anything but.

    It was the ZUSA who imposed the brutal regime of the Shah on Iran, and then used their asset Saddam to wage war on Iran when Iran heroically freed itself from the death grip of the Great Satan.

    Check out the methods used by the Mossad/CIA to terrorize the Iranian people with their organization SAVAK during the Shahs oppressive regime.

    Yes, the women were encouraged to wear miniskirts and I’m sure by now would be aping the antics of British and American females- who’re starting to smell like cum-splattered gutter sluts no man in his right mind would ever consider as a suitable life-partner. So if I had a choice between Amy Schumer or burka girl, I’d happily pick door number two, because it could hardly be any worse than a vicious and vile, man-hating slag.

    Boy oh boy did Iran dodge a bullet when it repudiated the morally grotesque zio-west for its culture.

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  188. Rurik says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    If you are referring to Israel what you say about the (Jewish?) birthrate seems to be completely untrue. See, for example
    https://www.jns.org/israels-jewish-fertility-rate-tops-arabs-for-first-time-defying-demographic-doom/

    An Israeli told me too that it wasn't all the huge families of the Ultra Orthodox (many of whom produce retarded kids because they are so inbred) but included those who tried for a "spare" having regard to the likelihood of their kids actually being shot at or blown up while serving in the IDF. Anyway whatever the reason the fertility rate appears to be double that of Catholic Europe or American Jews.

    of their kids actually being shot at or blown up while serving in the IDF

    the ultra orthodox don’t serve in the IDF wiz. Being as they’re fundamentally cowards, if anything.

    Don’t you know of the exhortation that “One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.” –Rabbi Ya’acov

    imagine an Orthodox Jewish boy on a roof top participating with the brave IDF in shooting Palestinian children for fun.

    or shooting at unarmed Palestinian protesters like they did recently, now imagine if one of those protesters, some twelve year old boy, perhaps, were to throw a rock in their general direction. Imagine if that Jew’s fingernail was damaged while running away!

    The humanity!

    Or, for God’s sake, what if a Palestinian teenage girl were to slap an Orthodox Jew?!?!?!

    That would be nothing short of another Holocaust!

    and isn’t the mantra Never Again!

    So by keeping away from any danger whatsoever, these precious Orthodox Jews will never be threated by anything more menacing than a chicken trying to protect itself from ritual sacrifice.

    which is terrifying enough!

    I figured a Jewish supremacist and uber-Zionst like you would know of such things.

    But it might be changing.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/ultra-orthodox-minister-sticks-to-threat-to-topple-coalition-over-idf-draft-bill/

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    If that's meant to be a (partly correcting) reply to me, why didn't you bother to read my comment first? Your first par showed me you were indifferent to what I had said.
    , @Anon

    the ultra orthodox don’t serve in the IDF wiz. Being as they’re fundamentally cowards, if anything.
     
    I don't think this is fair. Refusing to serve in the armed forces of the State of Israel for religious reasons is not, prima facie, evidence of cowardice-- I would think you of all people would be the first to admit that.
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  189. @Momus
    Try following the news?

    Try following the news?

    “The” news?

    Try following my direction; I distinctly demanded credible evidence. Absent that, it’s a troll comment.

    Try getting a clue from the ever inimitable Twain,

    Here are a few relevant snips from Twain’s “License of the Press” speech if 1873.:

    “There are laws to protect the freedom of the press’s speech, but none that are worth anything to protect the people from the press.”

    “It seems to me that just in the ratio that our newspapers increase, our morals decay. The more newspapers the worse morals. Where we have one newspaper that does good, I think we have fifty that do harm. We ought to look upon the establishment of a newspaper of the average pattern in a virtuous village as a calamity.”

    Television and radio are even worse, and it’s really old news that “da newz” is good only for mocking.

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    My definition of 'the news' is a lot broader and more encompassing than yours. You need to get out more.
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  190. Dutch says:

    The nuclear facility is in Northern Syria. The nuclear fuel is provided by none other than Russia. They acquired it through the Uranium One deal negotiated by Robert Mueller. It’s a continuation of the policy to provide Iran with nuclear technology implemented by Bill Clinton and John Kerry and brokered through a Boston technology company. This news is years old. It’s an unquestionable fact that itan has a nuclear program, we set it in motion, and the same folks behind it feared being found out, hence the need to control Syria where it WAS being hidden. Which clearly has been Priority One of the DEMOCRATS for over 5 years now after being thwarted in their last effort by a military fifth column led by Michael Flynn. Don’t you remember “I won’t be Al Quaedas air Force?”. What is even difficult to understand here? Seems to me the bigger challenge for you all is to get over the Jew Hate that is clouding everyone’s judgement. Netanyahu’s presentation only confirmed this story further. But since it put egg on the face of this article youve all taken to bashing Netanyahu for things irrelevant to this case rather than see the very clear, very true, bigger picture. That is what they call conspiracy theory. Dont be a dupe.

    Wait it gets better. Nobody IN THE WORLD can verify where the cash payments for the Iran deal have gone. Not even IRAN! Because as I know and you will find out (when you take your jew-hate blinders off) OBAMA set these payments up to siphon off a portion to keep for himself. Payments of $400 million and 1.3 billion are totally unaccounted for. The larger payment consisted of gold bars from Fort Knox FYI.

    Coincidentally, Have you noticed how the “humble community organizer” has been on a world tour. He didn’t come into the White House Rich like Trump did. So how is he funding months of first class travel zizzagging the globe, with no established wealth and no current job? Get a clue. The Jews are not coming for you. Trump is not going to start a nuclear war. Can this ‘alternative news site’ summon a story that doesn’t just chase the narratives and distortions in the MSM? I can read this story on CNN. And it’s just as untrue here as there. Watch and learn. Everything I’ve said here will be revealed in the near term. When it is do yourself a favor and leave this site rather than triple down on jew-hate. It looks really bad on you all.

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    So Obama siphoned off some money, even gold, therefore we know that Iran is developing nuclear arms in Syria, right in the middle of a war? Where is the sense in that?

    And if indeed Israel wants us to believe this crazy story, why do they show some stupid folders and CDs rather than some actual evidence and relevant witness testimony, and why do they let someone so thoroughly odious and untrustworthy like Netanyahu tell us about it? Deservedly or not, Colin Powell still had a gentleman's reputation to lose when he gave his spiel before the UN; Netanyahu does not.
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  191. @Beefcake the Mighty
    Couldn’t agree more. I’d say Netanyahu is a pathological liar but that wouldn’t be fair to pathological liars. And I’d say the Wiz is a fucking idiot but that wouldn’t be fair to fucking idiots.

    I’d say Netanyahu is a pathological liar but that wouldn’t be fair to pathological liars. And I’d say the Wiz is a fucking idiot but that wouldn’t be fair to fucking idiots.

    Used “Agree” button already.

    Same goes for the new troll on the block, “Momus.” There’s a never ending supply of Izzy-first dolts; where do they come from?

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    ">>>>where do they come from?"

    Besides that basement in Tel Aviv? Some may be new, others recycled, rotated, rebranded. Will [do] we have homegrown troll farms, now that the Russiagate alarmists want to control social media? Did you check out "Dutch" #190? [?!?] Is the best response to ignore?
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  192. anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:

    The Zionist tribe has many files on Trump to black mail him if he does not deliver his promises made to the criminal Zionists to implement their EXPANSIONIST PROJECT IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND BEYOND, of course with his full cooperation.

    The latest lie that has just come into the light is on his health report announced in 2016, that ‘he is in an excellent health and shape’, signed by his Jewish doctor. But now his Jewish doctor said THAT WAS A LIE and it was done to help this pathological liar to the throne. Why did the Jewish doctor wait that long to expose the Zionist servant?

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/physician-trump-dictated-health-letter.html

    President’s Medical Report Was Actually Written by Dr. Donald Trump

    [During the 2016 campaign, Donald Trump’s longtime physician Dr. Harold Bornstein released a letter proclaiming that the 70-year-old, exercise-averse candidate would be the healthiest president ever. “His physical strength and stamina are extraordinary,” the letter said. “If elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.”
    But on Tuesday Dr. Bornstein shared some information with CNN that puts the letter in a new light: Trump composed it himself. “He dictated that whole letter. I didn’t write that letter,” Bornstein said. “I just made it up as I went along.”
    Bornstein explained that Trump called him as he and his wife were driving through Central Park, reading off the language he wanted in the letter. “(Trump) dictated the letter and I would tell him what he couldn’t put in there,” he said. “They came to pick up their letter at four o’clock or something.”
    “That’s black humor, that letter. That’s my sense of humor,” Bornstein added. “It’s like the movie Fargo: It takes the truth and moves it in a different direction.”]

    Is it possible for the stupid Muller to pay a little attention to ISRAEL GATE, and not only to Russia gate?

    Netanyahu has just carried out a COMEDY SHOW, based on lies and deception to fool the public that Israel has stolen Iran’s nuclear files to prove that Iran has’ a secret nuclear weapon program, AN OLD FABRICATED STORY.

    But according to rumors, these files and Ring Binders, in fact, are Trump’s FILES that the zionist tribe has on him to black mail him if is necessary, like they did it to Clinton.
    Netanyahu is using ‘Iran file’ as a cover to threaten the head of the MOFIA to carry out ALL his promises made to the tribe, otherwise the criminal zionists, where their $$$$$$ and media’s and dummies votes let him in the WH, will reveal many secrets they have on him, including pussy licking activities paid by zionist pimps to keep the whores silent.
    Netanyahu, displayed all Drum’s files collection including CD and Ring Binders, according to the rumors the middle section of of CD’s are on ‘Stormy Daniels’ night activity story, kept secret by his jewish lawyers, against the law of the country. There are many other secrets on his business, whore houses, real states, waiting to be revealed.

    All these activities reveal the characteristics of TRAITORS.

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  193. Incitatus says:

    Meanwhile, in Jerusalem:

    Church leaders claim priests are being verbally abused and spat at while property is being vandalised in ancient walled city.

    The churches say they are facing onslaught on three fronts: a war of attrition waged by hardline settlers; unprecedented tax demands by Jerusalem city council; and a proposal to allow the expropriation of church land sold to private developers.

    Theophilos III, the Greek Orthodox patriarch of Jerusalem…told the Guardian…“These radical settler groups are highly organised. Over the last years we have witnessed the desecration and vandalism of an unprecedented number of churches and holy sites and receive growing numbers of reports from priests and local worshippers who have been assaulted and attacked…Where the authorities are concerned, this behaviour goes largely unchecked and unpunished.”

    In a separate development – but one that church leaders say is part of a pattern of targeting Christians – Jerusalem city council issued churches with a demand in February for nearly $200m (£143m) in back taxes…

    …settler organisation Ateret Cohanim is behind the purchase of the strategically significant properties as part of its drive to increase the Jewish presence in the Old City. The organisation, dedicated to the “physical and spiritual redemtion” of the Old City, has been frequently accused of using third parties to buy properties.

    ‘Christians in Jerusalem’s Old City ‘under threat’ from settlers’ Harriet Sherwood The Guardian 1 May 2018

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/01/christians-in-jerusalems-old-city-under-threat-from-settlers

    Time for Christian skullcaps, ala German kippa-marches?

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    The articulate-shallow InZitatus wrote:
    "Time for Christian skullcaps, ala German kippa-marches?"

    Hi InZit,

    Below you can learn about "Christian" bishops & archbishops who don't wear "skullcaps."

    F.y.i., In West Scranton, a couple months ago, I had the honor of meeting with Palestinian Archbishop Ramzi R. Musallam (Melchizedek). He traveled to D.C. in order to meet with PreZident Trump soon after The Decision was made to move the ZUS Embassy to Jerusalem.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/227871-palestinian-orthodox-christian-bishop/

    (Zigh)

    I miss your sidekick Sam The Maven Shama's higher level of deception and ability to change the topic on Philip Giraldi's weekly articles. Especially enjoyed when you & The Maven spoke in foreign tongues!
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  194. RobinG says:
    @jacques sheete

    I’d say Netanyahu is a pathological liar but that wouldn’t be fair to pathological liars. And I’d say the Wiz is a fucking idiot but that wouldn’t be fair to fucking idiots.
     
    Used "Agree" button already.

    Same goes for the new troll on the block, "Momus." There's a never ending supply of Izzy-first dolts; where do they come from?

    “>>>>where do they come from?”

    Besides that basement in Tel Aviv? Some may be new, others recycled, rotated, rebranded. Will [do] we have homegrown troll farms, now that the Russiagate alarmists want to control social media? Did you check out “Dutch” #190? [?!?] Is the best response to ignore?

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    Did you check out “Dutch” #190? [?!?] Is the best response to ignore?
     
    Iread a couple of sentences then quit, and MikeP already responded to the fool. At least they have some sophomoric entertainment value.
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  195. renfro says:
    @Momus
    Tiny Israel fought and overwhelmingly won a four fronted war in 1967. Israel is the pre eminent warrior nation.

    I see the troll monkeys are back…..beating their chest and pretending to be big silverbacks.

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  196. Mike P says:
    @Dutch
    The nuclear facility is in Northern Syria. The nuclear fuel is provided by none other than Russia. They acquired it through the Uranium One deal negotiated by Robert Mueller. It's a continuation of the policy to provide Iran with nuclear technology implemented by Bill Clinton and John Kerry and brokered through a Boston technology company. This news is years old. It's an unquestionable fact that itan has a nuclear program, we set it in motion, and the same folks behind it feared being found out, hence the need to control Syria where it WAS being hidden. Which clearly has been Priority One of the DEMOCRATS for over 5 years now after being thwarted in their last effort by a military fifth column led by Michael Flynn. Don't you remember "I won't be Al Quaedas air Force?". What is even difficult to understand here? Seems to me the bigger challenge for you all is to get over the Jew Hate that is clouding everyone's judgement. Netanyahu's presentation only confirmed this story further. But since it put egg on the face of this article youve all taken to bashing Netanyahu for things irrelevant to this case rather than see the very clear, very true, bigger picture. That is what they call conspiracy theory. Dont be a dupe.

    Wait it gets better. Nobody IN THE WORLD can verify where the cash payments for the Iran deal have gone. Not even IRAN! Because as I know and you will find out (when you take your jew-hate blinders off) OBAMA set these payments up to siphon off a portion to keep for himself. Payments of $400 million and 1.3 billion are totally unaccounted for. The larger payment consisted of gold bars from Fort Knox FYI.

    Coincidentally, Have you noticed how the "humble community organizer" has been on a world tour. He didn't come into the White House Rich like Trump did. So how is he funding months of first class travel zizzagging the globe, with no established wealth and no current job? Get a clue. The Jews are not coming for you. Trump is not going to start a nuclear war. Can this 'alternative news site' summon a story that doesn't just chase the narratives and distortions in the MSM? I can read this story on CNN. And it's just as untrue here as there. Watch and learn. Everything I've said here will be revealed in the near term. When it is do yourself a favor and leave this site rather than triple down on jew-hate. It looks really bad on you all.

    So Obama siphoned off some money, even gold, therefore we know that Iran is developing nuclear arms in Syria, right in the middle of a war? Where is the sense in that?

    And if indeed Israel wants us to believe this crazy story, why do they show some stupid folders and CDs rather than some actual evidence and relevant witness testimony, and why do they let someone so thoroughly odious and untrustworthy like Netanyahu tell us about it? Deservedly or not, Colin Powell still had a gentleman’s reputation to lose when he gave his spiel before the UN; Netanyahu does not.

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    Personally, I thought the presentation would have had increased credibility and garnered more support had it featured a sketch of a Road Runner cartoon style bomb with a lit fuse.
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  197. Kolo says:
    @Rurik

    Iran’s clear intent to build nukes, threaten Israel and control militarily and via a Shite theocracy centered in Teheran, a vast swathe of the Middle East and Western Asia is a good thing?
     
    Yes! Of course it's a good thing, when you consider the alternative.

    Iran didn't attack our Navy ship in a cowardly and treacherous act of war, now did they?

    Iran didn't send its Mossad to film the WTC being attacked with planes full of terrified American men, women and children, or start dancing in wild celebration when the planes exploded into the towers, slaughtering all those Americans horrifically. It was Israelis who did that, knowing those attacks were going to happen, and not warning us Americans, because they wanted us to get slaughtered, and cheered about it, as the flames were still burning Americans and people were dropping from the towers to their horrible deaths.

    Israel gets billions upon billions of dollars of largess from the American people, and that's how they repay our generosity, by laughing at our slaughtered citizens?

    I honestly don't know of any Iranians who would have laughed at 9/11, even considering all the evils that the ZUSA has perpetrated on Iran over the decades (always on Israel's behalf of course)

    So yes, absofuckinglutely, I'd prefer Iran to have nukes and hegemony if anyone in the Middle East is to have them/it. Certainly more so than fanatical, murderous, criminal, treacherous, cowardly Israel.

    Bibi belongs at the end of a rope, not lecturing the rest of the planet on his pretexts (lies) for more wars.

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  198. @Rurik

    of their kids actually being shot at or blown up while serving in the IDF

     

    the ultra orthodox don't serve in the IDF wiz. Being as they're fundamentally cowards, if anything.

    Don't you know of the exhortation that "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." --Rabbi Ya'acov

    imagine an Orthodox Jewish boy on a roof top participating with the brave IDF in shooting Palestinian children for fun.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAvViXi5tQs

    or shooting at unarmed Palestinian protesters like they did recently, now imagine if one of those protesters, some twelve year old boy, perhaps, were to throw a rock in their general direction. Imagine if that Jew's fingernail was damaged while running away!

    The humanity!

    Or, for God's sake, what if a Palestinian teenage girl were to slap an Orthodox Jew?!?!?!

    That would be nothing short of another Holocaust!

    and isn't the mantra Never Again!

    So by keeping away from any danger whatsoever, these precious Orthodox Jews will never be threated by anything more menacing than a chicken trying to protect itself from ritual sacrifice.

    which is terrifying enough!

    https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2017/08/F161010NS15-e1503919459105.jpg

    I figured a Jewish supremacist and uber-Zionst like you would know of such things.

    But it might be changing.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/ultra-orthodox-minister-sticks-to-threat-to-topple-coalition-over-idf-draft-bill/

    If that’s meant to be a (partly correcting) reply to me, why didn’t you bother to read my comment first? Your first par showed me you were indifferent to what I had said.

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    why didn’t you bother to read my comment first?
     
    I did

    the Ultra Orthodox (many of whom produce retarded kids because they are so inbred) but included those who tried for a “spare” having regard to the likelihood of their kids actually being shot at or blown up while serving in the IDF.
     
    to which I responded thus:

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/dumb-moves-have-consequences/#comment-2313574
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  199. renfro says:
    @SumDood
    @renfro

    Renfro, please find me an unbiased source for your claims.

    "From Wikipedia, "The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (also known as The Washington Report and WRMEA) is A NON PARTISAN, magazine [my emphasis] * * * focusing on "news and analysis from and about the Middle East and U.S. policy in that region. The New York Times has characterized it as "critical of United States policies in the Middle East." I have never seen an article in WRMEA that was not strongly biased against Israel."

    Renfro, please find me an unbiased source for your claims

    Oh please, please find me an unbiased source..please, please ,I dont know how, all they ever told me about at Jew troll school was wiki jew central…..help me please!….sob.
    Here lettle monkey have a banana….from the NYT jew rag.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/01/washington/01barrow.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

    In 1983, General Barrow made news after a letter he wrote to the secretary of defense, Caspar W. Weinberger, criticizing Israeli soldiers in Lebanon, was released by the Pentagon. General Barrow said Israeli soldiers were firing guns at American troops, among other things.

    And the author of the article ? Donald Neff was an American historian, journalist for 16 years for Time, and was a former Time bureau chief in Israel. He also worked for the Washington Star.
    Neff served in the army from 1948 until 1950.

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  200. RobinG says:

    In Honour of the Syrian Arab Army and Allies War on Terror

    “There are times in history when only the bravest will find the courage to stand alone against the most powerful in their attempts to erase our existence from our planet. We are all living through one of those times and we are witnessing a battle of two worlds. On one side is the world of imperialist oppression, violence, perpetual war, to benefit the predators of our world – on the other are those who wish to see the supremacy of international law and perpetual peace with benefits for all mankind.

    Those who have taken the ultimate stand against these forces of subjugation are the Syrian Arab Army and their allies who have stood firm and proud against overwhelming military force and a terrifying apparatus of war. The Syrian Arab Army does not only fight for Syria and its people, it fights for all of us – in Palestine, in the UK, the EU, South America, Yemen, everywhere… Syria is not only the cradle of civilization, it is the cradle of resistance around which are circling those who would destroy it and those who would defend it. We stand with those who defend it.

    http://21stcenturywire.com/2018/05/02/in-honour-of-the-syrian-arab-army-and-allies-war-on-terror/ ……statements from just some of those around the world who wish to acknowledge what the SAA has done to secure a better future for all humanity:

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    The Syrian Arab Army does not only fight for Syria and its people, it fights for all of us – in Palestine, in the UK, the EU, South America, Yemen, everywhere… Syria is not only the cradle of civilization, it is the cradle of resistance around which are circling those who would destroy it and those who would defend it.
     
    this is truer than true Robin,

    because it literally is civilization itself which is a stake. The rule of law vs. the rule of men.

    If the Fiend (unilateral, central bankster - Zionism) is allowed to crush all resistance to its global dominance, the people of the planet will have no recourse left to its insane and psychotic lust for total power.

    It isn't just in "Palestine, in the UK, the EU, South America, Yemen", it's also right here in the United State, my nation of birth and citizenship, where the Syrian army is and has been fighting heroically tooth and claw for my freedom and future too!

    Sadly, there are millions of Americans deluded (stupid) enough to believe the ZUS is in Syria because 'we're fighting them over there, so we don't have to fight them over here, because they hate our freedom'.

    But the truth is we're fighting them over there because Jewish supremacists control our banks, and therefor control virtually everything else of consequence in this land.

    It's even a miracle of sorts that I'm even able to say these things on the Internet, since it has been nearly scrubbed.

    YouTube, Facebook, Google and all the rest are in ((their)) absolute control, and are shutting down heretics to Zionist Jewish power as we speak.

    Putin and Assad and Iran are defending civilization from the forces of evil that threaten it.

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Bibi-Lied-640x369.jpg

    God speed to them and a heartfelt thank you! from an American to Assad and Putin and Iran, and all the other unsung heroes that have sacrificed their precious lives fighting this Satanic fiend.

    I pay homage to these men.

    https://cdn3.img.sputniknews.com/images/105726/31/1057263149.jpg

    who we all owe a debt we can never pay back, but we should try.

    The Zionist regime has perpetrated so much evil in that part of the world, that it's literally impossible to comprehend it all. It's so staggering, all the horrors and misery and death.

    God pray the good people of this world do end up prevailing against this demonic villainy- that has enveloped the planet since Rothschild was spawned out of the devil's own bowels.
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  201. Rurik says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    If that's meant to be a (partly correcting) reply to me, why didn't you bother to read my comment first? Your first par showed me you were indifferent to what I had said.

    why didn’t you bother to read my comment first?

    I did

    the Ultra Orthodox (many of whom produce retarded kids because they are so inbred) but included those who tried for a “spare” having regard to the likelihood of their kids actually being shot at or blown up while serving in the IDF.

    to which I responded thus:

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/dumb-moves-have-consequences/#comment-2313574

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    What is the pretence you are engaging in? That you don't think anyone will bother to check and see that you needed, for honesty, to quote my link and my words preceding "the Ultra Orthodox"? Or that you are too stupid to see that I understood very well that the Ultra Orthodox weren't making a contribution to Israel's defence?
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  202. Kolo says:
    @Momus
    Israel's obvious need for a defensive capability, as well as her robust oversights and non hegemonic Western democratic traditions means to most that we are safe.

    Hahahahahaha
    You are clearly insane

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  203. Kolo says:
    @Rurik

    It is not uncommon to find truths humorous. I thought the line in such stark contrast as to be funny.,
     
    in contrast to what?

    here's the truth, as written, that you found so funny

    the unfortunate truth is that going to war with Iran is popular among the policy makers and media for the usual reason: it is a major foreign policy objective of the Israeli government and its powerful U.S. lobby.
     
    how many readers out there are busting a gut laughing at that I wonder.. not. Because I know the answer - none.

    it may have been a knee slapper for you, but another reason that's odd is because you're the driest, least humorous person here.

    I would encourage you not to manufacture controversy –
     
    umm.. this is a comment section for matters of extreme exigency in the world today.

    I didn't manufacture any controversy EliteCommInc. Hardly. Rather, I'm just here to comment on the death-slog to more wars for Israel, which are all contrived and manufactured by scumfucks to the detriment of every single person on this planet, with the exception of psychopathic Jewish supremacists, war pig profiteers, treasonous politicians, and perhaps worst of all; Christian Zionists.

    The controversy is that these wars are evil and wrong and all based on lies, if you've stopped laughing long enough to notice that. And that 9/11 was perpetrated by these scumfucks as the devil's pretext to drag 21st century humanity into a Satanic abyss of endless wars for Israel (much like the 20th), and get millions of people slaughtered, and tens or hundreds of millions of people's lives destroyed utterly, and all for the greater glory of Israel. Duh.

    Still laughing?

    Your first link is to The American Cuckservative, where in nauseous contempt for their sniveling cowardice, I don't go. Nevertheless, I read your article, and notice that it says exactly what I pointed out, that Germany wants no part of the war on Syria. And refuses to participate. (good on them!)

    I'll close this reply now so it doesn't get too long. And if I find something in your other links that implies that Germany is keen to join in an attack on Syria, (rather than just tepid verbalizations to keep it in the good graces of the Fiend), I'll let you know.

    Bravo

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  204. @El Dato
    Hey Hey Hey,

    Someone is stuffing the news with bullshit.

    US judge orders Iran to pay billions to families of 9/11 victims

    On Tuesday, a federal judge in New York found Iran, the country’s central bank, and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps liable for the deaths of more than 1,000 people in the September 11 attacks. As a consequence, District Judge George Daniels ordered Iran and its entities to pay over $6 billion in compensation to the victims’ families.

    Wait, didn't we already have that?

    It is not the first time that Daniels has issued default judgments against Iran. In 2011 and 2016, the New York judge ordered the Islamic Republic to pay billions of dollars to victims of the attacks, which killed nearly 3,000 people.

    We invaded two countries for 9/11 and it's actually a third that is responsible. Imagine that.

    Comes at the right moment for Bibi's clownshow. Where is not on my watch Fallon when you want him?

    Someone is stuffing the news with bullshit.

    US judge orders Iran to pay billions to families of 9/11 victims

    On Tuesday, a federal judge in New York found Iran, the country’s central bank, and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps liable for the deaths of more than 1,000 people in the September 11 attacks. As a consequence, District Judge George Daniels ordered Iran and its entities to pay over $6 billion in compensation to the victims’ families.

    The USSA is completely broken and corrupted. Even the courts/judges. This would be funny if it wasn’t so sad. This “judge” should be fired, banned from stepping foot in a court of law.
    A few years ago I could’ve never dreamed it was this bad, then you start researching, the level of lawlessness, corruption, treason, and evil, it is mind blowing. Nowhere for the USSA to go but down if this continues much longer.
    Jeff Sessions should be working 20 hour shifts to clean this mess up. But I kinda doubt that.

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  205. annamaria says:
    @SumDood
    @vojkan "there’s a signed multilateral agreement."

    Like the ironclad German-Soviet Nonaggression Pact? I bet you think "Gun Free Zone" signs actually keep guns out, right?

    In any case, the agreement you reference is about to end. We have no obligation to honor it after it expires.

    "civilised people judge actions using evidence, not alleged intentions,"

    Civilized people don't lie pathologically. Civilized people don't violate the embassy of a sovereign nation and take hostages.

    “Civilized people don’t violate…” — The lady doth protest too much: https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/05/symbolic-donbass-war-to-resume-on-victory-day/
    “…the escalation of the conflict [the civil war in Eastern Ukraine] is carried out specifically to disrupt celebrations of Victory Day – Soviet victory over Fascism.”
    — The US ziocons had come to Kiev in 2014 and since then Ukraine has been a playing field for the collaborative activities of ziocons & banderites. This Bandera, “SumDood:” https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/09/stepan-bandera-nationalist-euromaidan-right-sector/
    The holocaustians have been displaying the expected cognitive blindness re the Kagans clan’ neo-Nazi project in Ukraine.
    Moreover, before making a laundry list of Iranian misdeeds, why don’t you, “SumDood” refresh your memory about the terrorist beginning — and continuation — of your apartheid theocratic Jewish state? (See USSLiberty, Pollard, the Gaza Ghetto scandal, the incessant pushing for wars in Israel in Iraq, Libya, and Syria).
    Iran has not been robbing the US taxpayers annually — Israel has. Iran has not been making a joke out of the US republic by bribing and blackmailing the US Congress — Israel has. This is why we have the zionized US Congress and the zonized (partially) US military.
    Iran has not been threatening the European capitals with Samson option — Israel has.
    Unlike law-abiding Iran, a signatory to NNPT, Israel refuses to let the NNPT inspectors inspect Israeli nuclear arsenal (obtained by deception). Moreover, Israel refuses to ratify the bio- and chemical weapon conventions. http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/israel-refuses-ratify-treaty-banning-chemical-weapons/
    Your whining and profiteering state is a moral midget (along with the thuggish Lobby in the US and the imbecile Friends of Israel in the UK) that has violated all and any rules of western civilization.
    Iran has not been supporting ISIS — Israel has.
    Deal with your neighbors (cousins) on your own. Leave western civilization alone.

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  206. @Incitatus
    Meanwhile, in Jerusalem:

    Church leaders claim priests are being verbally abused and spat at while property is being vandalised in ancient walled city.

    The churches say they are facing onslaught on three fronts: a war of attrition waged by hardline settlers; unprecedented tax demands by Jerusalem city council; and a proposal to allow the expropriation of church land sold to private developers.

    Theophilos III, the Greek Orthodox patriarch of Jerusalem…told the Guardian…“These radical settler groups are highly organised. Over the last years we have witnessed the desecration and vandalism of an unprecedented number of churches and holy sites and receive growing numbers of reports from priests and local worshippers who have been assaulted and attacked…Where the authorities are concerned, this behaviour goes largely unchecked and unpunished.”

    In a separate development – but one that church leaders say is part of a pattern of targeting Christians – Jerusalem city council issued churches with a demand in February for nearly $200m (£143m) in back taxes…

    …settler organisation Ateret Cohanim is behind the purchase of the strategically significant properties as part of its drive to increase the Jewish presence in the Old City. The organisation, dedicated to the “physical and spiritual redemtion” of the Old City, has been frequently accused of using third parties to buy properties.

    ‘Christians in Jerusalem's Old City 'under threat' from settlers’ Harriet Sherwood The Guardian 1 May 2018

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/01/christians-in-jerusalems-old-city-under-threat-from-settlers
     
    Time for Christian skullcaps, ala German kippa-marches?

    The articulate-shallow InZitatus wrote:
    “Time for Christian skullcaps, ala German kippa-marches?”

    Hi InZit,

    Below you can learn about “Christian” bishops & archbishops who don’t wear “skullcaps.”

    F.y.i., In West Scranton, a couple months ago, I had the honor of meeting with Palestinian Archbishop Ramzi R. Musallam (Melchizedek). He traveled to D.C. in order to meet with PreZident Trump soon after The Decision was made to move the ZUS Embassy to Jerusalem.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/227871-palestinian-orthodox-christian-bishop/

    (Zigh)

    I miss your sidekick Sam The Maven Shama’s higher level of deception and ability to change the topic on Philip Giraldi’s weekly articles. Especially enjoyed when you & The Maven spoke in foreign tongues!

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    CO,

    "...you can learn about “Christian” bishops & archbishops who don’t wear “skullcaps.”

    Wasn’t going to mention the holy hat wars - Kalimavkion vs Klobuk vs Skufia vs Biretta vs Zucchetto vs and so on. Painful memories of the 1054 Schism. The Beldar Conehead shaped papal tiara is a favorite, but then I’m RC. The Russian Orthodox bishop’s crown comes pretty close. Confess the Sikke (Kûlah) perhaps most appealing, though brown’s not favorite. Dervishes spinning like tops?

    Even the Sephadic Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem is impressive. Looks a bit like a blue Q-Tip, but there’s nothing wrong with that.

    Good news. The Philippi Collection has all manner of pious headgear. 500-plus. Not to mention gloves, shoes, sashes, rings, pallia, pectoral-crosses, cross-cords. You name it, Dieter Philippi probably has it.

    Bad news. It’s private and not on display.

    Still, if you’re ever near Kirkel (Deutschland), give Dieter a call: “requests to view the collection may be made by telephone”. Tell him you’re from Scranton. I’d hold Third Reich praise, but you never know. He might have another really, really private hat collection.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Philippi_Collection

    Good luck. If the store’s respectable, buy me a Sikke (size 7-3/4). I’m good for it. Honest.

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  207. @Rurik

    why didn’t you bother to read my comment first?
     
    I did

    the Ultra Orthodox (many of whom produce retarded kids because they are so inbred) but included those who tried for a “spare” having regard to the likelihood of their kids actually being shot at or blown up while serving in the IDF.
     
    to which I responded thus:

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/dumb-moves-have-consequences/#comment-2313574

    What is the pretence you are engaging in? That you don’t think anyone will bother to check and see that you needed, for honesty, to quote my link and my words preceding “the Ultra Orthodox”? Or that you are too stupid to see that I understood very well that the Ultra Orthodox weren’t making a contribution to Israel’s defence?

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  208. Momus says:
    @annamaria
    1. "obvious need for a defensive capability" -- for a supposedly "moral" project that has blossomed into a malignancy? Enough of your "eternal victimhood" already; Israel has exhausted the world's goodwill.
    2. "non hegemonic Western democratic traditions" -- the theocratic apartheid of the Jewish State is neither Western nor democratic.
    3. "we are safe" -- here is the problem: the ziocons are not concerned with the safety of non-Jews at large.

    To reiterate: "All holocaust memorials should be closed until Israel signs the NNPT [The Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons] and allows all nations to inspect.”

    1. Israel is is rapidly increasing the number of countries she has diplomatic, trade and cultural relationships with; from Saudi Arabia to South America. This is increasing her diplomatic defensive capability and no one is calling her out on the other. A moral project that is proving stunningly successful.

    2. It is the Muslim nations in Israel’s neighbourhood practising theocratic apartheid/genocide.

    3. Why should they be particularly concerned given their history?

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    "A moral project that is proving stunningly successful."
    -- Hold your horses, "Momus." It seems that you misunderstood the concept of morality.
    The aforementioned relationships -- particularly the "stunningly successful" zionization of the US government and military -- are the result of the amoral bribing and blackmailing. You should read the popular book "The Lobby" to educate yourself on the subject.
    The "stunningly successful" pestering of anyone who questions holocaust numbers has been happening in the context of the ziocons' cooperation with neo-Nazi (banderites) in Ukraine. Not a peep from Israel and the Lobby re the banderite "success." Your Israeli citizen Kolomojsky, famous for his personal financing of the neo-Nazi battallion Azov, has been glorified by the ziocon Wall Street Journal. Kolomojsky is still an Israeli citizen. This is truly a "stunning success" by a neo-Nazis' financier, but to say that this success is a moral one is not correct.
    The Israel-firsters were also "stunningly successful" in punishing the BDS movement in the US. The punishment involves an open attack on the freedom of speech and association. That is, your "stunningly successful" methods are directed towards the hard-won moral principles of western civilization.

    "Fighting Israel’s Wars: How the U.S. military and government have become Zionized:" http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48309.htm
    Kolomojsky: https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraines-secret-weapon-feisty-oligarch-ihor-kolomoisky-1403886665
    "Canadian Woman Arrested in Germany for Questioning Holocaust:" https://needtoknow.news/2018/01/canadian-woman-arrested-germany-questioning-holocaust-video-made-canada/
    "CIA/Ziocon coup in Ukraine: Neo-Nazis Took Over The Government:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX4fA0E5j_4
    "Texas City Demands Hurricane Victims Pledge not to Boycott Israel if They Want to Receive Aid:" https://richardedmondson.net/2017/10/20/texas-city-demands-hurricane-victims-pledge-not-to-boycott-israel-if-they-want-to-receive-aid/
    "Anti-BDS Campaign:" https://richardedmondson.net/tag/anti-bds-campaign/
    , @annamaria
    Back to your boasting about the "stunningly successful moral project" of Zionists. The project is nothing but an assault on the western democratic values by the thoroughly corrupted tribal philosophy & practice that justify any means for the tribal ends. https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/05/03/morality-truth-facts-exited-dying-west/
    "What was the Holocaust? According to zionists, the Holocaust was National Socialist Germany’s elimination of 6 million Jews by first gassing them and then cremating the bodies. It is unclear how Germany managed this feat when all of its limited and dwindling resources were employed, unsuccessfully as it turns out, on the Russian front. ... We know very little about the Holocaust, because no one is allowed to study it. Anyone in Europe who studies it and makes the slightest correction to the zionist narrative is arrested and imprisoned as a Holocaust denier. ...
    Before our eyes, the Israelis are committing holocaust against the Palestinians, and nothing is done about it. You are not even permitted to protest. South Carolina has recently passed a law making it illegal to criticize Israel for anything, no matter how egregious. The bill purports to be combating “anti-semitism,” but the definition of anti-semitism is criticism of Israel or support for boycotts against Israel. In other words, in South Carolina it is illegal to sanction Israel or to criticize its inhumane policies toward the Palestinians. http://www.thetower.org/6154-south-carolina-is-first-state-to-pass-law-defining-anti-semitism-countering-on-campus-hate/ ... The South Carolina government, like most other states, is in Israel’s pocket. The state and federal governments respond to Israel, not to Americans, and certainly not to moral imperatives.
    So what are we to conclude? That Holocaust against Jews is morally unacceptable, but Holocaust against Palestinians is morally acceptable?"
    --- In addition to the criminal actions by Israelis towards the native Palestinian population, the ziocons' ongoing collaboration with neo-Nazis (banderites) in Ukraine (and the Lobby's tacit approval of the collaboration) has effectively closed the questions of the "Holocaust" and "eternal victimhood."
    Every time the "chosen" attempt at whining about their "special sufferings" and "superior mortality" they must be hit back by the facts of the ongoing collaboration between ziocons and neo-Nazis. The warmongering profiteers like Kagans' clan are too fast at showing amnesia re the victims of the WWII.
    The Zionist movement had begun with cooperation with the Nazi and it continues with the cooperation with the neo-nazi. So much for the sanctimonious "holocaust biz."
    http://northshorenumismaticsociety.org/little-known-medal-marks-nazi-zionist-co-operation-in-1933/
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  209. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    t. Namely, in the President-elect’s response to Israel’s reaction to a UN resolution condemning Israeli settlements in the West Bank.
    Israeli officials claim they have evidence the United States bears responsibility for tabling that UN resolution. Making this case, one Israeli official referenced “ironclad information.” This information, another official added, was sensitive but would be shared with the incoming Trump administration.
    But here’s the crunch: While Israel claims its information came from Arab and other diplomats, its information-descriptors imply intelligence collected against the United States. For one, the only proof that would be presentable to Trump would be something tangible such as a recorded phone call or a digital copy of an email. Israel would never risk identifying a human source in the Arab world just to embarrass Obama.

    The Republican President-elect is only one figurehead for a broader casual conservative indifference to Israeli spying. And that fuels understandable Israeli beliefs that they can spy on America without challenge.
    Because it’s part of a trend.
    Take the 2015 release of Jonathan Pollard. A US government employee, Pollard harmed American security by spying for Israel. The problem? Only a few non-isolationist conservatives such as Wall Street Journal columnist Bret Stephens and myself were willing to express concern at Pollard’s release. Many prominent American conservatives stayed deafeningly silent. Some, such as Shmuley Boteach, publicly and proudly celebrated the release. In doing so, American conservatives implicitly rewarded adversarial action against our interests.

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/05/opinions/limiting-israel-espionage-in-america-rogan/index.html

    Look at the stupidest lying they engage into- Arabs supplied them the information !!! WTF with tehse morons?

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  210. Momus says:
    @Cloak And Dagger
    Well, Trump’s trumpeting that he was 100% correct about Iran after Netanyahu’s latest lies about Iran could go in one of two ways:

    1. Despite knowing that Netanyahu is lying through his teeth about Iran’s nuclear aspirations (while avoiding any mention of Israel’s own stolen nukes), Trump could use this as a fig leaf and choose to pull out of the Iran deal. The timing of this coincides with Iran dropping the dollar, the same thing Ghadaffy and Saddam did before getting destroyed. Interestingly, Russia and China may drop the dollar too. It is unlikely that they will pull out of the deal. The UK and France might, but Germany probably won’t as its interests lie with Russia. So, even if the US pulls out of the deal, Iran still wins, and Israel/US become increasingly isolated.

    2. Trump is just blowing smoke and won’t pull out of the deal, or maybe, congress won’t let him. Constitutionally, the Iran deal is a treaty, and I believe congress (Israeli territory) has a say in it – but they have not really been upholding the Constitution, so that may not matter. But, assuming he does not tear up the deal, Iran still wins.

    So, either way the wind blows, it really doesn’t matter to Iran. We are a has-been power.

    Contact the mother ship mate.

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  211. @RobinG
    ">>>>where do they come from?"

    Besides that basement in Tel Aviv? Some may be new, others recycled, rotated, rebranded. Will [do] we have homegrown troll farms, now that the Russiagate alarmists want to control social media? Did you check out "Dutch" #190? [?!?] Is the best response to ignore?

    Did you check out “Dutch” #190? [?!?] Is the best response to ignore?

    Iread a couple of sentences then quit, and MikeP already responded to the fool. At least they have some sophomoric entertainment value.

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  212. Rurik says:
    @RobinG
    In Honour of the Syrian Arab Army and Allies War on Terror

    “There are times in history when only the bravest will find the courage to stand alone against the most powerful in their attempts to erase our existence from our planet. We are all living through one of those times and we are witnessing a battle of two worlds. On one side is the world of imperialist oppression, violence, perpetual war, to benefit the predators of our world – on the other are those who wish to see the supremacy of international law and perpetual peace with benefits for all mankind.

    Those who have taken the ultimate stand against these forces of subjugation are the Syrian Arab Army and their allies who have stood firm and proud against overwhelming military force and a terrifying apparatus of war. The Syrian Arab Army does not only fight for Syria and its people, it fights for all of us – in Palestine, in the UK, the EU, South America, Yemen, everywhere… Syria is not only the cradle of civilization, it is the cradle of resistance around which are circling those who would destroy it and those who would defend it. We stand with those who defend it.
     

    http://21stcenturywire.com/2018/05/02/in-honour-of-the-syrian-arab-army-and-allies-war-on-terror/ ......statements from just some of those around the world who wish to acknowledge what the SAA has done to secure a better future for all humanity:

    The Syrian Arab Army does not only fight for Syria and its people, it fights for all of us – in Palestine, in the UK, the EU, South America, Yemen, everywhere… Syria is not only the cradle of civilization, it is the cradle of resistance around which are circling those who would destroy it and those who would defend it.

    this is truer than true Robin,

    because it literally is civilization itself which is a stake. The rule of law vs. the rule of men.

    If the Fiend (unilateral, central bankster – Zionism) is allowed to crush all resistance to its global dominance, the people of the planet will have no recourse left to its insane and psychotic lust for total power.

    It isn’t just in “Palestine, in the UK, the EU, South America, Yemen”, it’s also right here in the United State, my nation of birth and citizenship, where the Syrian army is and has been fighting heroically tooth and claw for my freedom and future too!

    Sadly, there are millions of Americans deluded (stupid) enough to believe the ZUS is in Syria because ‘we’re fighting them over there, so we don’t have to fight them over here, because they hate our freedom’.

    But the truth is we’re fighting them over there because Jewish supremacists control our banks, and therefor control virtually everything else of consequence in this land.

    It’s even a miracle of sorts that I’m even able to say these things on the Internet, since it has been nearly scrubbed.

    YouTube, Facebook, Google and all the rest are in ((their)) absolute control, and are shutting down heretics to Zionist Jewish power as we speak.

    Putin and Assad and Iran are defending civilization from the forces of evil that threaten it.

    God speed to them and a heartfelt thank you! from an American to Assad and Putin and Iran, and all the other unsung heroes that have sacrificed their precious lives fighting this Satanic fiend.

    I pay homage to these men.

    who we all owe a debt we can never pay back, but we should try.

    The Zionist regime has perpetrated so much evil in that part of the world, that it’s literally impossible to comprehend it all. It’s so staggering, all the horrors and misery and death.

    God pray the good people of this world do end up prevailing against this demonic villainy- that has enveloped the planet since Rothschild was spawned out of the devil’s own bowels.

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    Putin and Assad and Iran are defending civilization from the forces of evil that threaten it.
     
    Yes, they are. And Hitler attempted to do that too. The leadership in Iran, too. To the contrary, the US and Britain have long sided with evil fiends.

    I hope I witness their final breath.
    , @SolontoCroesus
    Powerful comment, Rurik.

    (I'm embarrassed to admit that when I saw the photo, before reading the text, what came to mind was the Trumpian version, I LAY. )
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  213. gsjackson says:
    @Vojkan
    I stand corrected. Each group has its own variety of lunacy regarding interpreting the Bible and I was mistaken to conflate them.

    Maybe so on the lunacy, but bear in mind some things about the flat earthers, at least the ones putting the argument forward in public, primarily through youtube videos. Every one of them self identifies first and foremost as a skeptic about the official story, not as a true believer of any sort. Some — a minority — are Christian fundamentalists, but those see the Bible only as further confirmation of observational evidence.

    Geopolitically they align almost identically with most of the people who comment here at Unz. They size up the ruling class roughly according to the same parameters. They believe absolutely nothing that comes from government or through the mainstream media. They are among the last people who could be propagandized into supporting war. They’re just calling bullshit on moon landings, photo-shopped planet pictures, the Big Bang, a ball planet spinning 1,000 mph and hurtling through space at 67,000 mph — just as people here call BS on every word that comes out of Bibi’s mouth.

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    The "flat-Earthers" are obviously astroturf. Absolutely no real person believes in "flat Earth."

    How do you discredit a conspiracy theory that is getting too close for comfort to the truth? You hire a bunch of trolls that purport to advance this theory, but then stir some absolutely foul and insane idea into the mix such as "flat Earth" to throw curious people off the scent of the real conspiracy.

    The only relevance of nonsense like "flat Earth" and "chemtrails" is that it highlights which lies and cover-ups officialdom considers worth defending.

    , @Vojkan
    One only needs to buy a moderately priced telescope to see that Jupiter and Saturn actually look like the photoshopped pictures of them. Mine has a 187.5x magnification and I see Jupiter's stripes distinctly, they're just a little more oblique than in usual representations, I even see the storms on its surface in the form of fast going big orange spots. Though I see Saturn white, it's too far away to see its surface patterns, the rings are distinctly visible too, though more oblique than usually represented also.
    Regarding the landing on the moon, I have no opinion and don't consider as vital to have one. Regarding the fabric of the Universe, there are many theories around, the Big Bang is not my favourite, I'm more into strings, and particles being harmonics of waves, or chords of vibrating packets of energy, that sort of thing, but this is not a convenient place to discuss it.
    So yes, I tend to think that flat-earthers' do have some outlandish views and I tend to think that government loves people with outlandish views because since their views are outlandish then their conspiracy theories must be outlandish too.
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  214. @Rurik

    The Syrian Arab Army does not only fight for Syria and its people, it fights for all of us – in Palestine, in the UK, the EU, South America, Yemen, everywhere… Syria is not only the cradle of civilization, it is the cradle of resistance around which are circling those who would destroy it and those who would defend it.
     
    this is truer than true Robin,

    because it literally is civilization itself which is a stake. The rule of law vs. the rule of men.

    If the Fiend (unilateral, central bankster - Zionism) is allowed to crush all resistance to its global dominance, the people of the planet will have no recourse left to its insane and psychotic lust for total power.

    It isn't just in "Palestine, in the UK, the EU, South America, Yemen", it's also right here in the United State, my nation of birth and citizenship, where the Syrian army is and has been fighting heroically tooth and claw for my freedom and future too!

    Sadly, there are millions of Americans deluded (stupid) enough to believe the ZUS is in Syria because 'we're fighting them over there, so we don't have to fight them over here, because they hate our freedom'.

    But the truth is we're fighting them over there because Jewish supremacists control our banks, and therefor control virtually everything else of consequence in this land.

    It's even a miracle of sorts that I'm even able to say these things on the Internet, since it has been nearly scrubbed.

    YouTube, Facebook, Google and all the rest are in ((their)) absolute control, and are shutting down heretics to Zionist Jewish power as we speak.

    Putin and Assad and Iran are defending civilization from the forces of evil that threaten it.

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Bibi-Lied-640x369.jpg

    God speed to them and a heartfelt thank you! from an American to Assad and Putin and Iran, and all the other unsung heroes that have sacrificed their precious lives fighting this Satanic fiend.

    I pay homage to these men.

    https://cdn3.img.sputniknews.com/images/105726/31/1057263149.jpg

    who we all owe a debt we can never pay back, but we should try.

    The Zionist regime has perpetrated so much evil in that part of the world, that it's literally impossible to comprehend it all. It's so staggering, all the horrors and misery and death.

    God pray the good people of this world do end up prevailing against this demonic villainy- that has enveloped the planet since Rothschild was spawned out of the devil's own bowels.

    Putin and Assad and Iran are defending civilization from the forces of evil that threaten it.

    Yes, they are. And Hitler attempted to do that too. The leadership in Iran, too. To the contrary, the US and Britain have long sided with evil fiends.

    I hope I witness their final breath.

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    defending civilization from the forces of evil that threaten it.
     

    Hitler attempted to do that too.
     
    the parallels are indeed eerie

    Jewish supremacist Zionist banksters looted the economy in 1929 (Bernanke even admitted to it), plunged the world into a depression and used treachery and guile to foist a war on Europe that would stagger human reason for it's sheer savagery and sadistic brutality.

    such a deal!

    Now they want to do it all over again. Only this time it's Russia and Iran that are the Hitler du jour.

    We should pass on it this time around.

    They can print infinite amounts of money, to corrupt nearly infinite numbers of Western politician into their schemes, but what every single person should know, is that these wars are Jewish supremacist wars.

    So when Tucker Carlson asks the next Senator, why must we go to war in Syria?

    and the Senator responds, 'well, if you care about Israel..'

    everyone must know that we're all expected to spend unlimited trillions of dollars, that we have to borrow and pay back to the banksters with interest...

    so that we can afford to destroy every nation on the planet that Israel/Zionist Jews considers inconvenient to its unilateral and absolute power over everyone.

    Once we all know the score, then it's going to be more and more difficult for these Senators to go home, and look their constituents in the eyes, and try to explain why they're betraying their country for the benefit of Israel, the nation that perpetrated 9/11, not to mention the cowardly Liberty attack.

    Our congressmen need to be afraid of us. They need to know that when they vote to betray America, that we're watching.

    Trump, are you listening?

    You can't serve two masters. You either serve the American people, or you serve our enemy. Which will it be?

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  215. @Cold N. Holefield

    And only an idiot thinks that Iran under the mullahs is a better place for its citizens than Iran under the Shah.
     
    I'll add.....

    And only an idiot thinks that Iran under the Shah was a better place for its citizens than Iran would have been under Mossadeq had the CIA not murdered him to reseat the Shah.
     

    “…would have been under Mossadeq had the CIA not murdered him…”

    Mossadeq was never murdered. He died at the age of 84 under house arrest in his own house in 1967, 14 years after the coup I think you might be talking about.

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  216. RobinG says:

    Well said, and thanks for the emphasis, Rurik.

    As you know, I believe in the ‘many converging factors’ analysis, but after Bibi’s obscene performance this week it’s hard to dispute that Israel is the heart of the problem. So that goes for the worldwide network of Zionists and their supporters.

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  217. renfro says:

    Watch the Jews on Trump’s pulling out of the Iran deal….they voted against it to begin with.

    http://takimag.com/article/enumerating_jews_steve_sailer/print#ixzz5ENL42EVS

    exerpts…

    ”Weisman first ran into Jewish trouble in the summer of 2015 when, as a supporter of President Obama’s Iran deal (now back in the news), he coauthored a New York Times article noticing which kinds of Democrats in Congress were most likely to break ranks with Obama. According to a table Weisman had a graphic artist draw up, many of the Democrats opposing Obama on Iran were, unsurprisingly, Jewish, such as Chuck Schumer (D-Wall Street), and many of the rest represented heavily Jewish districts, such as Ted Lieu (D-Beverly Hills).

    For publishing this act of pattern recognition in a mainstream rather than an ethnic publication, Weisman was scorched by more powerful Jews than himself. The Simon Wiesenthal Center called his count “grotesque,” complaining that Weisman’s infographic validated stereotypes about “Jewish money” and “Jewish pressure” having disproportionate influence over American foreign policy.

    Jonathan Greenblatt, boss of the Anti-Defamation League, labeled Weisman’s chart “offensive” and said that it “reinforces stereotypes about American Jews and dual loyalty.”
    The New York Times crumbled under the Jewish assault and deleted from its archives the column in the table mentioning whether the anti–Iran Deal Democrats were Jewish, apologizing:
    Many readers and commenters on social media found that aspect of the chart insensitive. ‘Times’ editors agreed and decided to revise it to remove the column specifying which opponents were Jewish.
    But liberal Jews had an effective strategy to sidestep this: simply silence mainstream discussion of Jewish overrepresentation in anything other than adulatory contexts, while demoralizing whites in general by playing on their white guilt. The 1970s neoconservatives, with their love of analyzing ethnic differences, were seen as fools for talking intelligently about matters that were best not talked about at all, at least not anywhere that gentiles could overhear

    Yet, journalists made a tactical mistake by getting themselves invested in Twitter, which then turned out to have a fairly level playing field where insults could be exchanged without the institutional advantages provided by more traditional media. The Twitter methodology encouraged users to point out publicly the apparent disparate impact discrimination that led to Jews being extremely overrepresented in opinion media (especially in articles denouncing whites for disparate impact discrimination).”

    Chart…

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/09/09/us/politics/lawmakers-against-iran-nuclear-deal.html

    Lawmakers Against the Iran Nuclear Deal
    By ALICIA PARLAPIANO
    September 10, 2015
    Twenty-three Democratic lawmakers have said they will not support President Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran, joining their Republican colleagues in the House and the Senate.

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  218. @Art

    “The ability of Israel and its Lobby to dominate U.S. foreign policy formulation in certain areas is thereby exposed for what it is: sheer manipulation of our system of government by a small group dedicated to the interests of a foreign government using money and the political access that money buys to achieve that objective.”
     
    Here is 100% proof of the above.

    This is America’s foreign policy line-up. Gina Haspel, Nikki Haley, Mike Pompeo, Mad Dog Mattis, and John Bolton.

    None are Jews, but are reflexive brainstem warriors that answer to US Jews. They have war minded personalities. War brings them benefits. All of them are more than willing to put American lives on the line for Israel.

    The Jew leaders, the generals, the spies, and the MIC own and control America. They are the US Security State. Our elected representatives work for them – NOT us.

    Think Peace --- Art

    Agree, Art.

    re the “Big Jew – Little Jew” concept you mention frequently:
    English Outsider posted this comment/explanation of how “Little Jews” rally around Big Jews when SHTF –

    Will ‘rank and file’ Jews become targets.”

    One sees that outrage often enough in Europe in extreme form, but there is also a shift towards disapproval of Israeli actions generally. “Rank and file” Jews are increasingly identified with those Israeli actions. I believe that identification is often unjustified and always a mistake. My reason for believing that is simple enough:-

    The habit of Identifying the great mass of a people with the actions of the more vocal or active sub-sections of that people, or with the elites of that people, is of course general. We see neo-Nazis prominent in the Ukraine and immediately assume they represent the whole, see Nikki Haley at the UN and assume that’s all “Americans” or, as I observe often enough on American and other foreign sites, come across those who see the White Helmets and immediately think ‘those bloody Brits’.

    A universal mechanism therefore and one that in effect benefits the elites. As each particular rank and file group, be it Jew, Ukrainian or whatever, encounters that generalised hostility it automatically draws together; and in drawing together tends to fall into line behind those vocal sub-sections or elites that have aroused that hostility in the first place. The patriot who starts off by disapproving as heartily as anyone of the actions of his elite ends up by falling into line behind them.

    So just as war welds all to their own government, so too hostility or contempt from outside tends to increase our support for those who claim to represent us. The rank and file Jew whose synagogue is desecrated in France, or who is looked at sideways in England because of Gaza, feels closer to his own community as a consequence; and since the Israeli government is felt generally, for good or ill, to stand for the Jewish community, he will then tend to support or at least not look so critically at that government.

    There’s a contest within the Jewish community at present. It’s between those many Jews who are looking at Gaza or the Occupied Territories and thinking “My God, what are we doing?” and those many who believe that whatever they’re doing it’s what has to be done for survival. The increasingly forceful utterances of what you call the ‘major influencers’ – AIPAC and the like or their counterparts here – indicate how intense that contest now is. It’s not so much a contest to confirm their political influence in their host countries as a contest to pull the critical Jew in behind them. It is to get those Jews who say “My God what are we doing?” to change to “for the sake of all of us, it must be done.”

    How that contest will go is impossible to say, Such as jdledell here, who’s written so perceptively on this in the past, might know. I couldn’t even guess. But just as I found, as a “rank and file” Englishman when I lived abroad, that criticism – and that usually justified – of the losers at Westminster tended to make me bristle and to be more inclined to make excuses for them, misdirected contempt or hostility towards the “rank and file” Jew will have the same effect on him. He will draw closer to his own, as I did then, and maybe then fall into line behind those who happen at present to be in control.

    A simple enough argument, if I’ve put it right. One can be antipathetic to the Likud cronies without extending that antipathy to all Israelis or to the wider Jewish world. Rather, one has to scrupulously avoid that extension, else that natural mechanism of supporting one’s own drives all Jews into Netanyahu’s arms. http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/the-idf-is-the-most-moral-army-in-the-world-decameron-wonders-whatever-happened-to-human-rights.html

    Judahite/Levitic leaders have learned a great deal from their activities in WWII and especially their preparations for it. (that’s for another time).

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    upon closer reading, I can't agree w/ last paragraph:

    A simple enough argument, if I’ve put it right. One can be antipathetic to the Likud cronies without extending that antipathy to all Israelis or to the wider Jewish world. Rather, one has to scrupulously avoid that extension, else that natural mechanism of supporting one’s own drives all Jews into Netanyahu’s arms.
     
    The writer is calling upon non-Jews to do what Jews are too cowardly to do.

    F*&k that.

    I went to a meeting of "anti-Occupation" Jews, run by Jews. Their pitch was for non-Jews to "stand in solidarity with them."

    F&%k that too.

    When have Jews stood in solidarity w/ "rank and file" Americans?
    When have rank & file Jews demanded that the 52 high priests of Jewish organizations stfu? When have they rioted at AIPAC meetings the way (((rioters))) disrupted the Democratic convention in Chicago?

    Jews succeed because they organize around and defend their own.
    So be it.

    Don't expect me to put my body, or my children's bodies, in the outer circle to protect you.
    We -- however **we** identify ourselves, need to protect our own just as zealously.

    I mean no Jew any harm (well -- maybe if a lynching party needed aid in hanging Michael Ledeen, I'd supply the rope) -- but I'll be damned if I'll see my family or my people harmed in order to "scrupulously avoid" driving Jews "into Netanyahu's arms." That's entirely on them, not me.
    , @Art

    There’s a contest within the Jewish community at present. It’s between those many Jews who are looking at Gaza or the Occupied Territories and thinking “My God, what are we doing?” and those many who believe that whatever they’re doing it’s what has to be done for survival.
     
    S2C,

    The problem is biological tribalism.

    The Little Jews have a true problem. Whenever they embrace intellectual based Western culture, the Big Jews do bad things and drag them backwards into Jew tribal culture.

    Tribal Jew culture is ancient and animal like – it is mean to its neighbors – it is dark and war like. The practical Christian West is slowly moving to neighborliness and peace. (Currently the West is being dragged back to tribalism and war by the powerful Big Jews.) [It looks as if the Little Jews like war.]

    It is simple – the Little Jews have no choice – they must fight the Big Jews, or suffer the consequences of Big Jew wrong doing.

    Think Peace --- Art
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  219. @Rurik

    The Syrian Arab Army does not only fight for Syria and its people, it fights for all of us – in Palestine, in the UK, the EU, South America, Yemen, everywhere… Syria is not only the cradle of civilization, it is the cradle of resistance around which are circling those who would destroy it and those who would defend it.
     
    this is truer than true Robin,

    because it literally is civilization itself which is a stake. The rule of law vs. the rule of men.

    If the Fiend (unilateral, central bankster - Zionism) is allowed to crush all resistance to its global dominance, the people of the planet will have no recourse left to its insane and psychotic lust for total power.

    It isn't just in "Palestine, in the UK, the EU, South America, Yemen", it's also right here in the United State, my nation of birth and citizenship, where the Syrian army is and has been fighting heroically tooth and claw for my freedom and future too!

    Sadly, there are millions of Americans deluded (stupid) enough to believe the ZUS is in Syria because 'we're fighting them over there, so we don't have to fight them over here, because they hate our freedom'.

    But the truth is we're fighting them over there because Jewish supremacists control our banks, and therefor control virtually everything else of consequence in this land.

    It's even a miracle of sorts that I'm even able to say these things on the Internet, since it has been nearly scrubbed.

    YouTube, Facebook, Google and all the rest are in ((their)) absolute control, and are shutting down heretics to Zionist Jewish power as we speak.

    Putin and Assad and Iran are defending civilization from the forces of evil that threaten it.

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Bibi-Lied-640x369.jpg

    God speed to them and a heartfelt thank you! from an American to Assad and Putin and Iran, and all the other unsung heroes that have sacrificed their precious lives fighting this Satanic fiend.

    I pay homage to these men.

    https://cdn3.img.sputniknews.com/images/105726/31/1057263149.jpg

    who we all owe a debt we can never pay back, but we should try.

    The Zionist regime has perpetrated so much evil in that part of the world, that it's literally impossible to comprehend it all. It's so staggering, all the horrors and misery and death.

    God pray the good people of this world do end up prevailing against this demonic villainy- that has enveloped the planet since Rothschild was spawned out of the devil's own bowels.

    Powerful comment, Rurik.

    (I’m embarrassed to admit that when I saw the photo, before reading the text, what came to mind was the Trumpian version, I LAY. )

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    thanks S2C,

    (and the other comments of support, it is greatly appreciated)

    what came to mind was the Trumpian version, I LAY
     
    now in an act of crass indulgence, I'm going to post a photo that some might (rightly) consider gratuitous and inappropriate.

    however, it was on none other than one of Mr. Giraldi's own articles that I was struck by the angle of a photo of Jackie Kennedy right after her husband was assassinated, that accompanied the piece.

    and even tho it was highly inappropriate for me to save that photo as background on my computer, so I could have a better look.. I nevertheless did so. Just as I did to this photo as well.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbmD9MGWsAA6wkJ.jpg

    with apologies to any members of the fairer sex who might be struck by the callous disregard for proprieties that ooze out of the dark recesses of their troglodyte counterparts.
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  220. Mike P says:
    @gsjackson
    Maybe so on the lunacy, but bear in mind some things about the flat earthers, at least the ones putting the argument forward in public, primarily through youtube videos. Every one of them self identifies first and foremost as a skeptic about the official story, not as a true believer of any sort. Some -- a minority -- are Christian fundamentalists, but those see the Bible only as further confirmation of observational evidence.

    Geopolitically they align almost identically with most of the people who comment here at Unz. They size up the ruling class roughly according to the same parameters. They believe absolutely nothing that comes from government or through the mainstream media. They are among the last people who could be propagandized into supporting war. They're just calling bullshit on moon landings, photo-shopped planet pictures, the Big Bang, a ball planet spinning 1,000 mph and hurtling through space at 67,000 mph -- just as people here call BS on every word that comes out of Bibi's mouth.

    The “flat-Earthers” are obviously astroturf. Absolutely no real person believes in “flat Earth.”

    How do you discredit a conspiracy theory that is getting too close for comfort to the truth? You hire a bunch of trolls that purport to advance this theory, but then stir some absolutely foul and insane idea into the mix such as “flat Earth” to throw curious people off the scent of the real conspiracy.

    The only relevance of nonsense like “flat Earth” and “chemtrails” is that it highlights which lies and cover-ups officialdom considers worth defending.

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  221. @SolontoCroesus
    Agree, Art.

    re the "Big Jew - Little Jew" concept you mention frequently:
    English Outsider posted this comment/explanation of how "Little Jews" rally around Big Jews when SHTF --

    Will 'rank and file' Jews become targets."

    One sees that outrage often enough in Europe in extreme form, but there is also a shift towards disapproval of Israeli actions generally. "Rank and file" Jews are increasingly identified with those Israeli actions. I believe that identification is often unjustified and always a mistake. My reason for believing that is simple enough:-

    The habit of Identifying the great mass of a people with the actions of the more vocal or active sub-sections of that people, or with the elites of that people, is of course general. We see neo-Nazis prominent in the Ukraine and immediately assume they represent the whole, see Nikki Haley at the UN and assume that's all "Americans" or, as I observe often enough on American and other foreign sites, come across those who see the White Helmets and immediately think 'those bloody Brits'.

    A universal mechanism therefore and one that in effect benefits the elites. As each particular rank and file group, be it Jew, Ukrainian or whatever, encounters that generalised hostility it automatically draws together; and in drawing together tends to fall into line behind those vocal sub-sections or elites that have aroused that hostility in the first place. The patriot who starts off by disapproving as heartily as anyone of the actions of his elite ends up by falling into line behind them.

    So just as war welds all to their own government, so too hostility or contempt from outside tends to increase our support for those who claim to represent us. The rank and file Jew whose synagogue is desecrated in France, or who is looked at sideways in England because of Gaza, feels closer to his own community as a consequence; and since the Israeli government is felt generally, for good or ill, to stand for the Jewish community, he will then tend to support or at least not look so critically at that government.

    There's a contest within the Jewish community at present. It's between those many Jews who are looking at Gaza or the Occupied Territories and thinking "My God, what are we doing?" and those many who believe that whatever they're doing it's what has to be done for survival. The increasingly forceful utterances of what you call the 'major influencers' - AIPAC and the like or their counterparts here - indicate how intense that contest now is. It's not so much a contest to confirm their political influence in their host countries as a contest to pull the critical Jew in behind them. It is to get those Jews who say "My God what are we doing?" to change to "for the sake of all of us, it must be done."

    How that contest will go is impossible to say, Such as jdledell here, who's written so perceptively on this in the past, might know. I couldn't even guess. But just as I found, as a "rank and file" Englishman when I lived abroad, that criticism - and that usually justified - of the losers at Westminster tended to make me bristle and to be more inclined to make excuses for them, misdirected contempt or hostility towards the "rank and file" Jew will have the same effect on him. He will draw closer to his own, as I did then, and maybe then fall into line behind those who happen at present to be in control.

    A simple enough argument, if I've put it right. One can be antipathetic to the Likud cronies without extending that antipathy to all Israelis or to the wider Jewish world. Rather, one has to scrupulously avoid that extension, else that natural mechanism of supporting one's own drives all Jews into Netanyahu's arms. http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/the-idf-is-the-most-moral-army-in-the-world-decameron-wonders-whatever-happened-to-human-rights.html
     
    Judahite/Levitic leaders have learned a great deal from their activities in WWII and especially their preparations for it. (that's for another time).

    upon closer reading, I can’t agree w/ last paragraph:

    A simple enough argument, if I’ve put it right. One can be antipathetic to the Likud cronies without extending that antipathy to all Israelis or to the wider Jewish world. Rather, one has to scrupulously avoid that extension, else that natural mechanism of supporting one’s own drives all Jews into Netanyahu’s arms.

    The writer is calling upon non-Jews to do what Jews are too cowardly to do.

    F*&k that.

    I went to a meeting of “anti-Occupation” Jews, run by Jews. Their pitch was for non-Jews to “stand in solidarity with them.”

    F&%k that too.

    When have Jews stood in solidarity w/ “rank and file” Americans?
    When have rank & file Jews demanded that the 52 high priests of Jewish organizations stfu? When have they rioted at AIPAC meetings the way (((rioters))) disrupted the Democratic convention in Chicago?

    Jews succeed because they organize around and defend their own.
    So be it.

    Don’t expect me to put my body, or my children’s bodies, in the outer circle to protect you.
    We — however **we** identify ourselves, need to protect our own just as zealously.

    I mean no Jew any harm (well — maybe if a lynching party needed aid in hanging Michael Ledeen, I’d supply the rope) — but I’ll be damned if I’ll see my family or my people harmed in order to “scrupulously avoid” driving Jews “into Netanyahu’s arms.” That’s entirely on them, not me.

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    S.C:

    upon closer reading, I can’t agree w/ last paragraph:

    A simple enough argument, if I’ve put it right. One can be antipathetic to the Likud cronies without extending that antipathy to all Israelis or to the wider Jewish world. Rather, one has to scrupulously avoid that extension, else that natural mechanism of supporting one’s own drives all Jews into Netanyahu’s arms.

    The writer is calling upon non-Jews to do what Jews are too cowardly to do.

    F*&k that.
     
    Well said.
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  222. tac says:

    Pictures of Israeli weapons in possession of ISIS terrorists (in south Damascus) is ignored:

    Israeli troops pictured with terrorists:

    Also interesting interview with Ian Shilling and Vanessa Beeley (2 hours):

    http://21stcenturywire.com/2018/04/29/episode-231-exposing-the-governme…

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    Where is the proof those ammo boxes are with ISIS terrorists? You expect people to believe your say so?
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  223. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    Putin and Assad and Iran are defending civilization from the forces of evil that threaten it.
     
    Yes, they are. And Hitler attempted to do that too. The leadership in Iran, too. To the contrary, the US and Britain have long sided with evil fiends.

    I hope I witness their final breath.

    defending civilization from the forces of evil that threaten it.

    Hitler attempted to do that too.

    the parallels are indeed eerie

    Jewish supremacist Zionist banksters looted the economy in 1929 (Bernanke even admitted to it), plunged the world into a depression and used treachery and guile to foist a war on Europe that would stagger human reason for it’s sheer savagery and sadistic brutality.

    such a deal!

    Now they want to do it all over again. Only this time it’s Russia and Iran that are the Hitler du jour.

    We should pass on it this time around.

    They can print infinite amounts of money, to corrupt nearly infinite numbers of Western politician into their schemes, but what every single person should know, is that these wars are Jewish supremacist wars.

    So when Tucker Carlson asks the next Senator, why must we go to war in Syria?

    and the Senator responds, ‘well, if you care about Israel..’

    everyone must know that we’re all expected to spend unlimited trillions of dollars, that we have to borrow and pay back to the banksters with interest…

    so that we can afford to destroy every nation on the planet that Israel/Zionist Jews considers inconvenient to its unilateral and absolute power over everyone.

    Once we all know the score, then it’s going to be more and more difficult for these Senators to go home, and look their constituents in the eyes, and try to explain why they’re betraying their country for the benefit of Israel, the nation that perpetrated 9/11, not to mention the cowardly Liberty attack.

    Our congressmen need to be afraid of us. They need to know that when they vote to betray America, that we’re watching.

    Trump, are you listening?

    You can’t serve two masters. You either serve the American people, or you serve our enemy. Which will it be?

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  224. annamaria says:
    @Momus
    1. Israel is is rapidly increasing the number of countries she has diplomatic, trade and cultural relationships with; from Saudi Arabia to South America. This is increasing her diplomatic defensive capability and no one is calling her out on the other. A moral project that is proving stunningly successful.

    2. It is the Muslim nations in Israel's neighbourhood practising theocratic apartheid/genocide.

    3. Why should they be particularly concerned given their history?

    “A moral project that is proving stunningly successful.”
    – Hold your horses, “Momus.” It seems that you misunderstood the concept of morality.
    The aforementioned relationships — particularly the “stunningly successful” zionization of the US government and military — are the result of the amoral bribing and blackmailing. You should read the popular book “The Lobby” to educate yourself on the subject.
    The “stunningly successful” pestering of anyone who questions holocaust numbers has been happening in the context of the ziocons’ cooperation with neo-Nazi (banderites) in Ukraine. Not a peep from Israel and the Lobby re the banderite “success.” Your Israeli citizen Kolomojsky, famous for his personal financing of the neo-Nazi battallion Azov, has been glorified by the ziocon Wall Street Journal. Kolomojsky is still an Israeli citizen. This is truly a “stunning success” by a neo-Nazis’ financier, but to say that this success is a moral one is not correct.
    The Israel-firsters were also “stunningly successful” in punishing the BDS movement in the US. The punishment involves an open attack on the freedom of speech and association. That is, your “stunningly successful” methods are directed towards the hard-won moral principles of western civilization.

    “Fighting Israel’s Wars: How the U.S. military and government have become Zionized:” http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48309.htm
    Kolomojsky: https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraines-secret-weapon-feisty-oligarch-ihor-kolomoisky-1403886665
    “Canadian Woman Arrested in Germany for Questioning Holocaust:” https://needtoknow.news/2018/01/canadian-woman-arrested-germany-questioning-holocaust-video-made-canada/
    “CIA/Ziocon coup in Ukraine: Neo-Nazis Took Over The Government:”

    “Texas City Demands Hurricane Victims Pledge not to Boycott Israel if They Want to Receive Aid:” https://richardedmondson.net/2017/10/20/texas-city-demands-hurricane-victims-pledge-not-to-boycott-israel-if-they-want-to-receive-aid/
    “Anti-BDS Campaign:” https://richardedmondson.net/tag/anti-bds-campaign/

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  225. Paul C. says:
    @Rurik

    The EU largely supports as does NATO

    https://sputniknews.com/europe/201804151063573067-nato-support-syria-strikes/

    I am very sure that includes germany
     

    the EU is the other half of the Siamese twin the Fed. Its dictums are Rothschild's dictums. 'What's good for the Zionist Jews in all things, IOW. Duh.

    NATO is nothing more or less than the enforcement arm of Rothschild's Jewish supremacist, zio-global banking racket. Duh.

    It's true that Germany and others are forced to abase themselves to the Fiend, and pay lip service to atrocities and war crimes and lies, but at least they have enough decency not to participate directly in the murderous rapine and serial wars of aggression that the ZUSA is waging all over the planet (on behalf of Israel).

    Germany didn't want war in the last century, but had if foisted upon them by Jewish supremacists in Russia, London, Paris and NYC.

    Today those Jewish supremacists are largely out of influence in Russia, but they control the ZUSA in near absolute terms. Certainly the Senate and most of the House. And so you have the sycophantic rubber stamp for any and all wars (for Israel) from the ZUS congress. Duh.

    The question (or controversy ; ) that's on everyone's mind, is just how dominated by these Satanic Jewish supremacist$ is Donald J. Trump.

    Bibi is so over-the-top psycho for more Americans (and especially Germans) to die in the Eternal Wars for Israel, that he's making an absolute ass of himself on the world's stage.

    There's irony in that it was Germany who didn't want war in the last century, but was blamed for it all when Rothschild and the Jewish banking cartels forced war on the world.

    Just as today, it is again Germany that doesn't want war, and yet if you know how to read between the lines, this quote from your American Cuckservative article...

    “Germany will not be militarily involved,” she explained, surprising no one. However, before the attack, she said “We recognize and we support the fact that every effort is being made to signal that the use of chemical weapons is unacceptable.” After the event, Merkel explained: “The military response was successful and appropriate.” Bloomberg called this “unequivocal support.”

    How generous. Bloomberg might have also observed that the Germans felt no obligation to actually do anything.
     

    the emphasis on "do anything" was the authors, not mine.

    And if you've grown up in the West, as I have, you learn to understand how words are put together, and why. Most of what many authors are trying to get across, is not stated directly. It's implied. By tweaking our carefully manufactured and expertly programmed sub-consciences, and speaking to that as much or more than to our consciousness. So when they have an agenda, (as nearly all of them of course do. Duh) they use tricks to move their readers in this direction or that, you see?

    So, when the author of the article says of 'Germany'; (a word that is wrought with a thousand sub-conscious and emotional, psychic triggers) that when it comes to Syria, (read Israel or 'the Jews - another word with carefully implanted and powerful emotional, psychic triggers) there are known and existing psychological trip-wires all going off in the modern human's brain.

    'The world's Jews (victims) are again menaced by a known threat and aggressive tyrant - Assad/Putin = Hitler

    and what does Germany do?!?!

    They don't "do anything"!

    it's deja vu all over again, as the Jews are being railroaded to gas chambers by Iran and Syria and Russia, and what does the Gentile world (especially Germany!) do?!

    They don't "do anything" !

    Just like not bombing the rail lines into Auschwitz, the anti-Semitic world (especially Germany!) sits on their hands and allows the innocent Jews to suffer and suffer.

    Let's unravel the code and programming we've all marinated in. It will free our minds.

    http://schneeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/66-6-the-matrix.jpg

    Excellent analysis!

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    All of that may be. But that is an entirely different issue than the one I was addressing on the table.

    I have made no character assessments about who did or said what, aside my laughter via Dr. Giraldi's phrasing.


    None of your commentary has any bearing to the question whether Germany approved of the Syrian air strikes and the role that JPOAC signatories will or choices they will regarding a US break from the agreement.


    Since I made no reference by way of support for any wars with or without Israel -- so your comment is making hay where none existed. You pressed for two issues. Why I laughed and some source material that indicated Germany supported the airstrikes. I did so, despite not buying the need top do so -- as a courteousy.


    Your litany on whether and how Germany was forced to this or that and the WWII explication is immaterial. And whether Germany did or did not do anything is also immaterial. She supported the effort and explained why.


    I think my position is clear and well supported. For the moment I am going to eschew any rehash on whether Jews or Israel are victims as to my comments -- totally irrelevant.

    excuse the delay -- clearing a clogged drains --

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  226. tac says:

    Syrian security forces managed to confiscate large quantities of weapons, ammunition, drugs and media equipment intended for rebel groups in north Homs countryside.

    According to a security officer, the confiscated materials – which also include Israel-made medication – were originally brought from Quneitra province through Darra, with the objective to be smuggled to north Homs via the desert.

    Media equipment like cameras, laptops, hard disks and live broadcast device – all carrying the logo of al-Jazeera Media Network – have also been seized in the process.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-syrian-forces-foil-rebel-attempt-to-smuggle-weapons-drugs-into-homs/?utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=push&utm_campaign=push+notifications&utm_content=English

    SYRIAN MILITARY INTELLIGENCE SIZES WEAPONS AND ISRAELI MEDICINE SHIPMENT HEADING TO NORTHERN HOMS

    https://southfront.org/syrian-intelligence-sizes-weapons-and-israeli-medicine-shipment-heading-to-northern-homs-photos/

    https://www.facebook.com/jsmallzone/posts/10100875026073044

    http://observers.france24.com/en/20180501-shocking-photos-migrants-humiliated-tel-aviv

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  227. Rurik says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    Powerful comment, Rurik.

    (I'm embarrassed to admit that when I saw the photo, before reading the text, what came to mind was the Trumpian version, I LAY. )

    thanks S2C,

    (and the other comments of support, it is greatly appreciated)

    what came to mind was the Trumpian version, I LAY

    now in an act of crass indulgence, I’m going to post a photo that some might (rightly) consider gratuitous and inappropriate.

    however, it was on none other than one of Mr. Giraldi’s own articles that I was struck by the angle of a photo of Jackie Kennedy right after her husband was assassinated, that accompanied the piece.

    and even tho it was highly inappropriate for me to save that photo as background on my computer, so I could have a better look.. I nevertheless did so. Just as I did to this photo as well.

    with apologies to any members of the fairer sex who might be struck by the callous disregard for proprieties that ooze out of the dark recesses of their troglodyte counterparts.

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    Here is an equally distasteful pic--which is causing some controversy--taken in Tel Aviv that depicts how migrants are viewed there:

    https://twitter.com/AdelElgamal/status/991788929597825024

    http://observers.france24.com/en/20180501-shocking-photos-migrants-humiliated-tel-aviv

    https://www.facebook.com/jsmallzone/posts/10100875026073044

    and another:

    https://www.independent.co.ug/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Israel-refugees.jpg

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  228. Incitatus says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    The articulate-shallow InZitatus wrote:
    "Time for Christian skullcaps, ala German kippa-marches?"

    Hi InZit,

    Below you can learn about "Christian" bishops & archbishops who don't wear "skullcaps."

    F.y.i., In West Scranton, a couple months ago, I had the honor of meeting with Palestinian Archbishop Ramzi R. Musallam (Melchizedek). He traveled to D.C. in order to meet with PreZident Trump soon after The Decision was made to move the ZUS Embassy to Jerusalem.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/227871-palestinian-orthodox-christian-bishop/

    (Zigh)

    I miss your sidekick Sam The Maven Shama's higher level of deception and ability to change the topic on Philip Giraldi's weekly articles. Especially enjoyed when you & The Maven spoke in foreign tongues!

    CO,

    “…you can learn about “Christian” bishops & archbishops who don’t wear “skullcaps.”

    Wasn’t going to mention the holy hat wars – Kalimavkion vs Klobuk vs Skufia vs Biretta vs Zucchetto vs and so on. Painful memories of the 1054 Schism. The Beldar Conehead shaped papal tiara is a favorite, but then I’m RC. The Russian Orthodox bishop’s crown comes pretty close. Confess the Sikke (Kûlah) perhaps most appealing, though brown’s not favorite. Dervishes spinning like tops?

    Even the Sephadic Chief Rabbi of Jerusalem is impressive. Looks a bit like a blue Q-Tip, but there’s nothing wrong with that.

    Good news. The Philippi Collection has all manner of pious headgear. 500-plus. Not to mention gloves, shoes, sashes, rings, pallia, pectoral-crosses, cross-cords. You name it, Dieter Philippi probably has it.

    Bad news. It’s private and not on display.

    Still, if you’re ever near Kirkel (Deutschland), give Dieter a call: “requests to view the collection may be made by telephone”. Tell him you’re from Scranton. I’d hold Third Reich praise, but you never know. He might have another really, really private hat collection.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Philippi_Collection

    Good luck. If the store’s respectable, buy me a Sikke (size 7-3/4). I’m good for it. Honest.

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    Hi InZit,

    Size 7 3/4 hat size, eh? Figured you have a big head.

    Well... There's Jacob's Hat Store in downtown Scranton, so post your address & credit card data and I will mail you a cool "Mad Hatter" hat like the one a Jewish guy wears in the You Tube video, below.

    https://youtu.be/3h2feMFV_MA
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  229. @Paul C.
    Excellent analysis!

    All of that may be. But that is an entirely different issue than the one I was addressing on the table.

    I have made no character assessments about who did or said what, aside my laughter via Dr. Giraldi’s phrasing.

    None of your commentary has any bearing to the question whether Germany approved of the Syrian air strikes and the role that JPOAC signatories will or choices they will regarding a US break from the agreement.

    Since I made no reference by way of support for any wars with or without Israel — so your comment is making hay where none existed. You pressed for two issues. Why I laughed and some source material that indicated Germany supported the airstrikes. I did so, despite not buying the need top do so — as a courteousy.

    Your litany on whether and how Germany was forced to this or that and the WWII explication is immaterial. And whether Germany did or did not do anything is also immaterial. She supported the effort and explained why.

    I think my position is clear and well supported. For the moment I am going to eschew any rehash on whether Jews or Israel are victims as to my comments — totally irrelevant.

    excuse the delay — clearing a clogged drains –

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    aside my laughter via Dr. Giraldi’s phrasing.
     
    too bad the comedian didn't have access to it for the Correspondents Dinner, the room would have been on the floor.

    the rest of your post is pirouettes

    http://i58.tinypic.com/ndr7kk.gif
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  230. Vojkan says:
    @gsjackson
    Maybe so on the lunacy, but bear in mind some things about the flat earthers, at least the ones putting the argument forward in public, primarily through youtube videos. Every one of them self identifies first and foremost as a skeptic about the official story, not as a true believer of any sort. Some -- a minority -- are Christian fundamentalists, but those see the Bible only as further confirmation of observational evidence.

    Geopolitically they align almost identically with most of the people who comment here at Unz. They size up the ruling class roughly according to the same parameters. They believe absolutely nothing that comes from government or through the mainstream media. They are among the last people who could be propagandized into supporting war. They're just calling bullshit on moon landings, photo-shopped planet pictures, the Big Bang, a ball planet spinning 1,000 mph and hurtling through space at 67,000 mph -- just as people here call BS on every word that comes out of Bibi's mouth.

    One only needs to buy a moderately priced telescope to see that Jupiter and Saturn actually look like the photoshopped pictures of them. Mine has a 187.5x magnification and I see Jupiter’s stripes distinctly, they’re just a little more oblique than in usual representations, I even see the storms on its surface in the form of fast going big orange spots. Though I see Saturn white, it’s too far away to see its surface patterns, the rings are distinctly visible too, though more oblique than usually represented also.
    Regarding the landing on the moon, I have no opinion and don’t consider as vital to have one. Regarding the fabric of the Universe, there are many theories around, the Big Bang is not my favourite, I’m more into strings, and particles being harmonics of waves, or chords of vibrating packets of energy, that sort of thing, but this is not a convenient place to discuss it.
    So yes, I tend to think that flat-earthers’ do have some outlandish views and I tend to think that government loves people with outlandish views because since their views are outlandish then their conspiracy theories must be outlandish too.

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  231. tac says:
    @Rurik
    thanks S2C,

    (and the other comments of support, it is greatly appreciated)

    what came to mind was the Trumpian version, I LAY
     
    now in an act of crass indulgence, I'm going to post a photo that some might (rightly) consider gratuitous and inappropriate.

    however, it was on none other than one of Mr. Giraldi's own articles that I was struck by the angle of a photo of Jackie Kennedy right after her husband was assassinated, that accompanied the piece.

    and even tho it was highly inappropriate for me to save that photo as background on my computer, so I could have a better look.. I nevertheless did so. Just as I did to this photo as well.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbmD9MGWsAA6wkJ.jpg

    with apologies to any members of the fairer sex who might be struck by the callous disregard for proprieties that ooze out of the dark recesses of their troglodyte counterparts.

    Here is an equally distasteful pic–which is causing some controversy–taken in Tel Aviv that depicts how migrants are viewed there:

    http://observers.france24.com/en/20180501-shocking-photos-migrants-humiliated-tel-aviv

    https://www.facebook.com/jsmallzone/posts/10100875026073044

    and another:

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    equally distasteful pic
     
    not sure I'd call it equally distasteful, but I get your point

    the picture you posted reminded me of this iconic photo


    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YYMeAu4i7gA/Ssmj9kV3RWI/AAAAAAAAFuc/sTmZ1cx0aLM/s400/ss-officer-taunts-jew-seond-world-war-nazi.jpeg

    ironic eh?